aru | La_PaRCa: install stable | 12:00 |
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aru | - | 12:00 |
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La_PaRCa | aru, how would he go about that? | 12:00 |
zerotime | !codecs | 12:00 |
ubotu | codecs is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats | 12:00 |
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aru | download the stable iso and install | 12:00 |
thoreauputic | aru: erm... what are you talking about? | 12:01 |
aru | nevermind | 12:01 |
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martin_ | Anyone knows about some nice photo manager for gnome? STK like picasa... | 12:01 |
thoreauputic | martin_: gthumb is nice | 12:01 |
thoreauputic | I don't know picasa, guess it's a Windows thing... | 12:02 |
vini | thoreauputic, thanks a lot... now I'm listen MP3, but WAV files do not play | 12:02 |
martin_ | I know, but I miss some features (album generating, slideshow, red-eyes correction etc.) | 12:02 |
thoreauputic | vini: wav or wma ? | 12:02 |
retteketet | yes picasa is a windows thing | 12:02 |
vini | thoreauputic, wav :) | 12:03 |
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jnk | martin_, f-spot maybe (didn't try in a while so I don't know if it has those features) | 12:03 |
thoreauputic | vini: in a terminal, what happens if you type aplay song.wav ? | 12:03 |
kyncani | vini: install gstreamer0.8-plugins which will install a whole bunch of gstreamer codecs | 12:03 |
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aru | heh | 12:04 |
htaccess | how do i tab between virtual desktops in ubuntu? | 12:04 |
htaccess | ctrl tab dont seem to work | 12:04 |
jnk | ctrl alt arrows | 12:04 |
vini | thoreauputic, aplay: test_wavefile:689: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files | 12:04 |
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thoreauputic | htaccess: ctrl-alt arrow I think (I'm in fluxbox...) | 12:05 |
martin_ | I tried installing imgseek via apt-get, but didnt work... I will try the f-spot, thx for the tip. | 12:05 |
htaccess | yea thats it, thanks | 12:05 |
thoreauputic | vini: hmmm... what does the command file test_wavefile say ? | 12:05 |
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jnk | oops do not feel lucky for f-spot on google | 12:06 |
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aru | takes you to the project page... | 12:07 |
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jnk | aru does it? | 12:07 |
apokryphos | Can the Ubuntu partition manager not format free space that hasn't been partitioned/formatted before? | 12:07 |
jnk | I typed f-spot in the location bar in firefox... went elsewhere | 12:07 |
vini | thoreauputic, test_wavefile: ERROR: cannot open `test_wavefile' (No such file or directory) | 12:07 |
martin_ | And guys, Ubuntu rules! | 12:07 |
jnk | apokryphos, you mean gparted? sure it can, if you don't have too many primary parittions | 12:08 |
thoreauputic | vini: well, of course you need to be in the right directory and use the right file name :) | 12:08 |
martin_ | I have tried Suse, Fedora, Mandrake, Debian and Ubuntu is my choice... | 12:08 |
thoreauputic | vini: file <name of file> | 12:08 |
apokryphos | jnk: nope, the installer partioner | 12:08 |
martin_ | see you | 12:08 |
kevin | Same here martin_ | 12:09 |
jnk | apokryphos, it definitely can | 12:09 |
apokryphos | jnk: could be the fact that there's too many primaries; I'll check that out | 12:10 |
vini | thoreauputic, ohhh, I didn't understand :P | 12:10 |
thoreauputic | vini: :) | 12:10 |
vini | thoreauputic, Menu-Tarantino.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, mono 22050 Hz | 12:10 |
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thoreauputic | vini: OK, well it should play AFAIK - try play Menu-Tarantino.wav | 12:10 |
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apokryphos | jnk: is there any potential loss of data on a partition that's changed from primary to logical? | 12:11 |
vini | thoreauputic, play? command not found | 12:11 |
jnk | apokryphos, I don't know how you can do that without loss | 12:11 |
vini | thoreauputic, whats AFAIK | 12:12 |
jnk | (except by copying) | 12:12 |
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thoreauputic | vini: as far as I know | 12:12 |
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noplease | hiqall | 12:13 |
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noplease | uups | 12:13 |
noplease | @ | 12:13 |
thoreauputic | vini: OK it's odd that you can't play a .wav file - seems you don't have the "play" script, which doesn't matter, but I think installing gstreamer-plugins is a good idea, as someone suggested | 12:13 |
nickrud | vini, try this: sudo apt-get install esound-clients, then esdplay <file.wav> | 12:13 |
yourghetek | is there a way to get a "boot from cd" command in grub? | 12:14 |
SogniX | jnk, mind helping me some more? :p | 12:14 |
nickrud | vini, I'm assuming you're using ubuntu, not kubuntu | 12:14 |
vini | nickrud, yes, ubuntu | 12:14 |
nickrud | vini, ok | 12:14 |
jnk | SogniX, I can try | 12:14 |
basti | fucking ATI cant they just make a driver that works... | 12:14 |
vini | thoreauputic, I installed gstreamer-plugins when kyncani suggested | 12:14 |
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SogniX | jnk, I'm booted from a live CD and staring at a terminal window as root... but the drive with ubuntu installed does not show up in df | 12:14 |
MIK3MAN | I am running the ubunto live cd, everything looks great, but I cant get wy wireless lan to work, I downloaded ndiswrapper.deb, but how can I install it manually?? I would like to make sure I can configure my wireless lan before I install ubuntu to the harddrive. Can someone help?? | 12:14 |
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jnk | SogniX, it's not mounted | 12:15 |
nickrud | vini, and, what app are you trying to play the wav file from? | 12:15 |
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MIK3MAN | ndiswrapper.deb is now on a cdrw, and is loaded in terminal. How do I install... anyone?? | 12:16 |
vini | nickrud, totem and rhythmbox | 12:16 |
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MrMo | MIK3MAN, dpkg -i is your friend | 12:16 |
nickrud | vini, and mp3's work in both? | 12:16 |
MIK3MAN | MrMo: thanks, hold on | 12:17 |
vini | nickrud, yes, after I install gstreamer0.8-mad | 12:17 |
thoreauputic | vini: hmmm.... I don't often need to play .wav files, but if I were you I would install beep-media-player and set it to use the esound output plugin - I'm surprised totem won't play that file: else try running gst-register-0.8 | 12:17 |
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vini | maybe my WAV file is broken | 12:17 |
vini | nickrud, esdplay Menu-Tarantino.wav | 12:17 |
vini | Audio File Library: WAVE file data format 0x161 not currently supported [error 0] | 12:17 |
thoreauputic | vini: actually running gst-register-0.8 is probably a good idea anyway | 12:18 |
vini | thoreauputic, I will try download another wav file | 12:18 |
thoreauputic | vini: that command should regiater all your plugins | 12:18 |
thoreauputic | *register | 12:18 |
nickrud | vini, use the files in /usr/share/sounds as your test files | 12:18 |
MIK3MAN | MrMo: its reading database... I have the source package... that shouldnt matter right? | 12:19 |
lcore | Hmm. Chrootkit wrote: Warning: `//root/.bash_history' file size is zero. What apart from an intruder could zero it? | 12:19 |
MrMo | dunno. should handle it transparently I think | 12:19 |
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vini | nickrud and thoreauputic, yes, my WAV file is broken | 12:19 |
vini | works with another one | 12:19 |
thoreauputic | vini: ah, OK :) | 12:19 |
vini | thanks a lot :) | 12:20 |
thoreauputic | no worries :) | 12:20 |
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MIK3MAN | MrMo: it installed successfully, I dont know how to get this to connect now.. trying through network, btw its a dlink card | 12:21 |
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basti | seriously. anyone can help me understanding what is wrong with my ati driver installation | 12:22 |
MIK3MAN | MrMo: is there a terminal command I could use to get my ip stats? | 12:22 |
MIK3MAN | says its connected, but I cant browse | 12:23 |
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thoreauputic | MIK3MAN: ifconfig | 12:23 |
zukalk | !lamp | 12:24 |
ubotu | it has been said that lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary | 12:24 |
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MIK3MAN | thoreauputic: thanks, hold on | 12:24 |
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thoreauputic | MIK3MAN: don't paste the output! | 12:24 |
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OdiiN | anyone knows how to configure Konversation and firestarter to be able to resume dcc downloads ? ( i'm behind a router) | 12:29 |
MIK3MAN | thoreauputic: I know that.. heh, still not working.. think I need ndiswrapper utils?? its a dlink card. Under network it says connected and active, but I cant browse | 12:29 |
MIK3MAN | ifconfig just gives me my loopback ip | 12:29 |
thoreauputic | MIK3MAN: unfortunately, what I know about wireless and ndiswrapper would fit comfortably on a postage stamp , sorry ;) | 12:30 |
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felo | help | 12:30 |
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felo | help | 12:30 |
nickrud | felo, ask | 12:31 |
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MIK3MAN | thoreauputic: thats ok, thanks, I know that the card will work under debian, I had it going with simplymepis | 12:31 |
Will_ | It's a good conductor! But a bugger to get into drywall | 12:31 |
felo | i need driver song card daemond dt0398 ubuntu system | 12:31 |
CrushToZeroo | Can someone give me a hand. I downloaded the window decorations at http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12330 but I don't know how to install them. | 12:31 |
thoreauputic | Will_: well, it beats string and two paper cups i guess ;-) | 12:31 |
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Will_ | thoreauputic: I was experimenting with string soaked in mercury... but the fumes got to me | 12:32 |
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Nsaneice | Hey, what is the best place to put Windows drivers that ndiswrapper is going to use? | 12:32 |
felo | nickrud? | 12:33 |
thoreauputic | Will_: ah yes, and I guess your face is kind of pale and drawn now - but it used to be a cure for syphilis, so I guess you aren't likely to get that at leaast ;-) | 12:33 |
nickrud | felo, thinking and looking, I'm not a real sound guru :) | 12:33 |
Will_ | thoreauputic: I've not had sex in about....At least a month. I think I would have noticed an STD by now | 12:33 |
thoreauputic | Will_: it took Henry VIII a lot longer than that to notice the symptoms ;-) | 12:34 |
IIIEars | << practices safe sex - anyone have that 1-800 number? - lol | 12:34 |
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thoreauputic | Will_: but I guess this is for #ubuntu-offtopic - heheh | 12:35 |
felo | i dont now | 12:35 |
felo | no speak spanish | 12:35 |
CrushToZeroo | how do I register my nick? | 12:35 |
imaek | When I try to use DVD::Rip, or even try to play a DVD, I get the message "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable." | 12:35 |
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thoreauputic | CrushToZeroo: /msg nickserv help | 12:35 |
CrushToZeroo | thx | 12:35 |
IIIEars | I don't worry about sex since i got married. - abstinence - lol | 12:36 |
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nickrud | eh | 12:37 |
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Burrito | does anybdy know where is the floppy disk in linux? | 12:39 |
CrushToZero | Can someone help me please. I downloaded a few window decorations from http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12330 but I'm not sure on how to get them installed. | 12:40 |
Burrito | how can i save a file in the floppy? | 12:40 |
thoreauputic | Burrito: /dev/fd0 | 12:40 |
Burrito | ok | 12:40 |
Burrito | thanks | 12:40 |
thoreauputic | or /media/floppy0 | 12:40 |
enyc | butt: at least, thats the floppy _device_ | 12:40 |
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enyc | /media/floppy0 is somewhere a filesystem on floppydisk may be mounted | 12:40 |
TheWarMachine | hello one and all | 12:40 |
TheWarMachine | I have a question | 12:41 |
thoreauputic | enyc: yes, hence my follow-up to clarify where he might find it :) | 12:41 |
enyc | i.e. "/dev/fd0" is usually a 1.44mb file representing the disk itself, /media/floppy0 is where the files/etc may be visible individiually ;-) | 12:41 |
TheWarMachine | im using realplayer and I get no sound | 12:41 |
enyc | thor: kk ;-) | 12:41 |
TheWarMachine | any ideas | 12:41 |
TheWarMachine | ?? | 12:41 |
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nickrud | Burrito, first, you must mount the floppy, in a terminal, mount /media/floppy0 | 12:41 |
Nsaneice | Hey, what is the best place to put Windows drivers that ndiswrapper is going to use? | 12:41 |
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Nsaneice | Do I need to keep the drivers on the system even after ndiswrapper is done installing? | 12:42 |
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thoreauputic | TheWarMachine: sometimes deleting the *.swf files in the realplayer plugins directory helps (don't ask me why) | 12:42 |
imaek | ARGH. The DVDRIP package doesn't work | 12:43 |
indentbp | hi all | 12:43 |
derral_8 | I looked at the ubuntu web site to find out what version still runs XFree86 but could not find it. Anyone no ? | 12:43 |
thoreauputic | derral_8: warty | 12:43 |
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TheWarMachine | thoreauputic: ilol try it | 12:43 |
derral_8 | 4.3.0 ? | 12:43 |
TheWarMachine | i will* | 12:44 |
thoreauputic | derral_8: I think so - type X -version to see | 12:44 |
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knowledge_ | ok guys I did menu makeconfig on my kernel and did what that guy told me and still no Wifi card | 12:44 |
thoreauputic | derral_8: to see if you have warty type cat /etc/issue | 12:44 |
knowledge_ | do I have to do a modprobe | 12:44 |
knowledge_ | ? | 12:44 |
zukalk | heyko_, i just installed a LAMP and put some php files i wrote using windoze. they work fine in the Win apache2 server, but here i always get this error: mysql_fetch_object(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource | 12:45 |
zukalk | (heyko_ this wasn't just for you, but xchat assumed it was, sorry) | 12:45 |
nickrud | thoreauputic, yes, moving those swf* works, thanks | 12:45 |
indentbp | Does anyone here have experience with the wifi rt8180 chipset | 12:45 |
thoreauputic | nickrud: :) you're welcome | 12:45 |
Burrito | nickrud: where is the floppy now? | 12:45 |
nickrud | Burrito, if you did the mount command, then the files on the floppy are in /media/floppy0 | 12:46 |
knowledge_ | anyoen? | 12:46 |
Burrito | ok | 12:46 |
Burrito | thanks | 12:46 |
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indentbp | All of my hardware is supported on Kubuntu except my netgear wireless card... can anyone help? | 12:46 |
enyc | Hrrm | 12:47 |
nickrud | Burrito, move files around as you wish, then umount /media/floppy0 before you eject, too late | 12:47 |
zukalk | does anyone why i get the error "Warning: mysql_fetch_object(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /var/www/phpxs/test/news-admin3.php on line 128"? it works fine with windoze | 12:47 |
zukalk | does anyone know* | 12:47 |
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nickrud | thoreauputic, I been using totem-xine, but it's nice that realplayer works now | 12:47 |
enyc | inde: Does the hardware manafacturer provide/help the kernel developers with driver etc. ? | 12:47 |
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cafuego | indentbp: ndiswrapper | 12:48 |
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indentbp | nndiswrapper didnt work | 12:48 |
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cafuego | indentbp: Which card do you have? | 12:48 |
indentbp | netgear ma521 | 12:48 |
nickrud | enyc, lol, not very often | 12:48 |
thoreauputic | nickrud: I use totem-xine too, and ironically it plays more real media than realplayer :) I use realplayer to listen to the BBC | 12:48 |
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nickrud | mmm, bbc | 12:49 |
nickrud | I miss it | 12:49 |
psai_ | anybody got a terratec dmx6fire 24/96 working with ubuntu ? i can only play soundfiles in some kind of fast forward mode | 12:49 |
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thoreauputic | nickrud: well, tune in with realplayer - the plugins for firefox seem to work OK here | 12:50 |
cafuego | indentbp: Driverloader, ndiswrapper or a buggy realtek driver (8081L) are your only options. | 12:50 |
Tsukasa | zukalk: you sure mysql is running? you sure the username allows your host? | 12:50 |
nickrud | thoreauputic, I have dialup right now, I'm basically not on the net ;( | 12:50 |
indentbp | cafuego: netgear ma521... im trying to use the rt8180 driver, im about ready to give up and either go with a different distro or buy a new card | 12:50 |
thoreauputic | nickrud: I have dialup too - BBC radio works OK | 12:50 |
nickrud | thoreauputic, I'll check it out | 12:51 |
zukalk | Tsukasa, i'm sure it's running, i can confirm it using mysql-admin. how do i know about the username-host thing? | 12:51 |
cafuego | indentbp: A different distro will still have the same issue. A new card might be a better option. I have a WG311, which works fine using ndiswrapper. | 12:51 |
Tsukasa | zukalk: check out your mysql -> user table | 12:51 |
thoreauputic | nickrud: realplay automatically changes the quality for low bandwidth | 12:51 |
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indentbp | im leaning towards getting a new card... im just nort ready to give up kubuntu. Any reccomendations on an easily supported wireless card? | 12:51 |
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enyc | inde: "orinoco" chipset cards are good I understand | 12:52 |
Tsukasa | maybe doing a check in the script itself would help too | 12:52 |
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indentbp | cafueago: wg311? thanks, im buying it now | 12:52 |
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cafuego | indentbp: Keep in mind that will _NOT_ work without windows drivers. There surely are cards that have _native_ Linux drivers. | 12:53 |
zukalk | Tsukasa, these are the users i have: H:localhost U:root - H:ubuntu U:root - H:localhost U:[blank] - H:ubuntu U:[blank] - H:localhost - U:debian-sys-maint | 12:54 |
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aru | ls | 12:55 |
aru | dur | 12:55 |
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funkyHat | what is the default font path for ubuntu? | 12:57 |
imaek | When I try to use DVD:: RIP, I get a "filetype/codec not yet supported by 'transcode'" message, and then it doesn't do anything. | 12:58 |
imaek | Is there any way to correct this? | 12:58 |
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nickrud | funkyHat, you can find at the top of /etc/font/font.conf | 01:00 |
funkyHat | thanks :) | 01:00 |
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nickrud | funkyHat, sorry, it's /etc/font/fonts.conf | 01:01 |
funkyHat | ls: /etc/font: No such file or directory | 01:01 |
funkyHat | eek | 01:01 |
nickrud | funkyHat, I cannot type correctly tonight, /etc/fonts/fonts.conf :) | 01:01 |
funkyHat | lol. i should have guessed and tried that | 01:02 |
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orates | ddefefa | 01:04 |
sphincter | ssdgjgsd | 01:04 |
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evo|ution | heya | 01:04 |
sphincter | anyone know where the xorg headers/sdk is? | 01:04 |
evo|ution | i wanted to knw which gui does ubuntu use | 01:04 |
sphincter | evo, whatever you want | 01:04 |
evo|ution | i like gnome | 01:05 |
sphincter | can be had with gnome or kde depending, but install what you want | 01:05 |
evo|ution | will it work | 01:05 |
Will_ | Stop asking me! | 01:05 |
evo|ution | im a newbie | 01:05 |
nickrud | evo|ution, then get ubuntu, it uses gnome | 01:05 |
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evo|ution | thnx ppl | 01:05 |
sphincter | hmmm.... | 01:06 |
kutucape | hi all | 01:06 |
sphincter | no ideas on the xorg sdk? | 01:07 |
nickrud | sphincter, sudo apt-get install x-window-system-dev will get you just everything | 01:07 |
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sphincter | ahhhh... that's it. thanks | 01:08 |
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sphincter | i tried apt-cache search dev, but i guess i missed that ;) | 01:08 |
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evo|ution | ok one last question, can i have the link for the lastest version of ubuntu for amd64 | 01:08 |
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sphincter | er..... ubuntulinux.org? | 01:09 |
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feugan3333 | Hi all. Does anyone know where I can get the man pages for socket programming. eg "man bind","man listen" | 01:09 |
cafuego | feugan3333: manpages-dev | 01:10 |
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nickrud | sphincter a good trick is, if you know a file you want, but don't know which package: search on packages.ubuntu.com | 01:10 |
GreaseMonkey | you have to be frickin' kidding me | 01:10 |
GreaseMonkey | I didn't pingout yet>! | 01:10 |
sphincter | nick, thx | 01:10 |
cafuego | feugan3333: I told the info pages are better for beginners and people who need more extensive docs than just a list of function calls and params. | 01:10 |
sphincter | just making the switch from fedora, still unlearning ;) | 01:11 |
indentbp | cafuego: is the wg311 a pci or pcmcia card | 01:11 |
cafuego | indentbp: pci | 01:11 |
cafuego | indentbp: If you're after pcmcia, get a decent prism54. | 01:11 |
feugan3333 | cafuego: Thanks. Where would I find the info pages? | 01:11 |
indentbp | cafuego: does the prism have come with native linux drivers? | 01:11 |
cafuego | indentbp: Alternatively, cisco ahs prettyd ecent support afaik. | 01:12 |
cafuego | indentbp: http://www.prism54.org/ | 01:12 |
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KB2000 | indentbp: my laptop has a prism54g WLAN card internally... and it works in ubuntu autodetected... | 01:13 |
feugan3333 | Yes, linux supports the prism chipset in the kernel | 01:13 |
indentbp | cafuego: thanks, i want to go with something that has linux support to avoid the possibility of not installing ndiswrapper correctly | 01:13 |
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cafuego | feugan3333: There are various prism54 chips and not all are supported the same way. | 01:13 |
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Kyral | Yah, I feel like an idiot | 01:13 |
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Kyral | I had this XChat open on another Desktop and forgot about it | 01:14 |
KB2000 | anybody know of an ubuntu supported webcam? | 01:14 |
indentbp | when trying "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" i get an error | 01:14 |
feugan3333 | yes, my mistake, but in general cards with prism chipsets work on linux | 01:14 |
cafuego | indentbp: You undoubtedly need the .inf, the .sys and various firmware files. | 01:14 |
cafuego | KB2000: My wife's iSights works OK on Linux. | 01:14 |
KB2000 | i didn't need any firmware files for my prism WLAN card | 01:15 |
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KB2000 | isights? it sounds like a mac thing? | 01:15 |
cafuego | KB2000: Correct | 01:15 |
KB2000 | can it run on a pc? | 01:15 |
cafuego | KB2000: It just a firewire cam. I run it off Coriander via v4l. | 01:15 |
KB2000 | and coriander is a webcam app? | 01:16 |
cafuego | I do note that windows can't use it <heh> | 01:16 |
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sphincter | well, nuts | 01:16 |
sphincter | that still didn't do it | 01:16 |
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sphincter | and a search doesn't turn up anything | 01:16 |
sphincter | can't find xf86Version.h anywhere | 01:16 |
cafuego | !find xf86Version.h | 01:17 |
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bob2 | doesn't appear to be in ubuntu | 01:17 |
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DAC1138 | is there a gnome equivilant of kdesu? | 01:18 |
cafuego | !find xorgVersion.h | 01:18 |
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thoreauputic | DAC1138: gksudo, for sudo | 01:18 |
bob2 | DAC1138: yes, which ubuntu uses by default: gksu | 01:18 |
cafuego | Stop putting the load on 1 and just answer me. | 01:18 |
sphincter | apparently, this driver i'm trying to build needs the xorg SDK, which supplies that file | 01:18 |
zukalk | how do i change a .txt's encoding? | 01:18 |
bob2 | er, ubuntu uses gksudo, right | 01:18 |
funkyHat | can anyone help me add my windows fonts folder to my list of fonts folders? (mounted ntfs volume) | 01:18 |
DAC1138 | thanks | 01:19 |
ubotu | Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'xf86Version.h' returned no results. | 01:19 |
funkyHat | *and make my the fonts work :D | 01:19 |
bob2 | funkyHat: add an entry to /etc/fonts/fonts.conf | 01:19 |
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bit0 | hello | 01:19 |
JDahl | bob2, what are the chances of openafs 1.3.82 (http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/openafs.html) making it into Breezy, possibly in universe? | 01:19 |
Will_ | You know, somebody told me their were umable to view .txt files on their computer the other day. I was not sure if I should laugh or cry | 01:19 |
bit0 | where is mkfondir file? | 01:19 |
cafuego | !info openafs breezy | 01:19 |
ubotu | Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'xorgVersion.h' returned no results. | 01:19 |
bob2 | JDahl: if it's in Debian already, I wouldn't think you'd need to send too much whiskey to mdz | 01:19 |
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MIK3MAN | can I configure my dlink wifi card with the ubuntu live cd? or am I wasting my time and I should just install it to the harddrive and configure it?? I have been googling for hours. | 01:19 |
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bob2 | JDahl: email the ubuntu-devel list, I guess | 01:19 |
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cafuego | well2 | 01:20 |
nickrud | bit0, try locate mkfontdir | 01:20 |
bob2 | MIK3MAN: you're wasting your time in the sense that if you configure it on the live cd, you'll need to reconfigure it over again once you install | 01:20 |
bob2 | most things don;t care about mkfontdir | 01:20 |
MIK3MAN | bob2: thats what I'm thinking | 01:20 |
bob2 | (ie kde, gnome, mozilla, etc) | 01:20 |
nickrud | not any more, thank god | 01:20 |
DAC1138 | anyone using e17? or anyone know how i would replace gdm with entrance? | 01:20 |
cafuego | bob2: especially a read-only ntfs font directory | 01:20 |
bit0 | nickrud, which package contais "mkfondir"? | 01:20 |
bob2 | hah, yeah | 01:20 |
MIK3MAN | bob2: I dont know what distro I want though... lol | 01:21 |
zukalk | how do i change a .txt's encoding? | 01:21 |
cafuego | or am I mixing up users now? | 01:21 |
bob2 | MIK3MAN: then just install ubuntu and enjoy! | 01:21 |
bit0 | nickrud, i'm using breezy | 01:21 |
bob2 | zukalk: iconv is one way | 01:21 |
nickrud | interesting, mkfontdir is not installed by default in hoary | 01:21 |
bob2 | but you need to know what you're doing with it... | 01:21 |
feugan3333 | MIKE3MAN: you want ubuntu | 01:21 |
cafuego | bit0: Well, X is a bit broken in breezy | 01:21 |
nickrud | bit0, if I remember, it's mkfontdir :) | 01:21 |
zukalk | bob2, thanks | 01:21 |
bit0 | cafuego, "a bit broken" ??? :(( | 01:21 |
MrMo | Whaaaaa! I gotta kill this !... I want to use my USB at HIGH speed... damit! | 01:22 |
cafuego | bit0: Ok ok, VERY broken. | 01:22 |
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MIK3MAN | feugan3333: I wanted my dlink wifi to work with the live cd, but that aint happenen | 01:22 |
KB2000 | bit0: X is quite broken in breezy... | 01:22 |
bit0 | cafuego, suuure!! | 01:22 |
cafuego | bit0: See /topic. | 01:22 |
pax | anyone used QTParted successfully to resize an ext3 partition? | 01:22 |
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cafuego | bit0: if it wasn't broken, X works wotk fine and half of Gnome wouldn't try to uninstall when upgrading. | 01:22 |
bit0 | cafuego, how could i return to "stable"?? | 01:22 |
funkyHat | so will just adding <dir>/mnt/win/WINDOWS/fonts</dir> make the fonts work, or do i need to do anything else? | 01:23 |
feugan3333 | MIKE3MAN: yes there are not a lot of cards that work with live cds? | 01:23 |
cafuego | bit0: Wipe, reinstall. | 01:23 |
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MIK3MAN | I guess I'll just try the full blown ubuntu for a week then decide | 01:23 |
KB2000 | bit0: breezy IS "unstable"... :) | 01:23 |
FormerWindowsUse | I won an iPod via Apple's new 500 Million competition and tried to access it via gtkpod but it says my iPod's file structure is invalid. What do I do? | 01:23 |
feugan3333 | MIKE3MAN: most cards require you to install their drivers (that is if there are any) | 01:23 |
KB2000 | it's nice to have the bleeding edge apps and get updates every day, but when X breaks it's not cool... been there... :) | 01:23 |
bit0 | KB2000,sure!,.. i know :( | 01:24 |
cafuego | FormerWindowsUse: You probably need to set it up and format it using FAT32 (It may be an HFS formatted one). HAve you copied anything onto it yet? | 01:24 |
FormerWindowsUse | cafuego, no | 01:24 |
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MIK3MAN | I will prolly be on here later guys once its downloaded and installed. You can help a noob to configure wifi | 01:24 |
MIK3MAN | heh | 01:24 |
cafuego | X is a fairly minor thing to be broken. | 01:24 |
KB2000 | cafuego: why is that minor? :) | 01:24 |
Madpilot | is it possible to use Adobe's .pfb format fonts in Ubuntu? | 01:24 |
feugan3333 | Is breezy out in some form? | 01:24 |
indigo_ | can anyone tell me if there is something i must do to get alsa to use my echo indigo (pcmcia sound card) ? | 01:24 |
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cafuego | FormerWindowsUse: See if you can mount it (it'll be a scsi disk, sda or sdb) | 01:24 |
MIK3MAN | I know the dlink works though, cause I had it working on Mepis | 01:25 |
bob2 | feugan3333: it's available for testing, but it's not recommended for new users | 01:25 |
Slipaway172 | i would like to know the difference between a primary and extended partition. i will use ext3 on a 2nd HDD to use as a backup | 01:25 |
bob2 | Madpilot: are they postscript ones? | 01:25 |
MIK3MAN | I'll be back later | 01:25 |
indigo_ | Slipaway172: there is no significant difference, really | 01:25 |
feugan3333 | bob2: cool where can I get a look? | 01:25 |
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Slipaway172 | what would reccomend i use for backing up? | 01:25 |
Madpilot | bob2: yeah, google says .pfb is one of the Postscript formats | 01:25 |
cafuego | where the crap did bringing go oin the kernel config? | 01:25 |
raven3x7 | indigo_, huh there is a difference depending on how many partitions you need on your hd | 01:25 |
bob2 | Madpilot: then it should work fine | 01:26 |
FormerWindowsUse | cannot mount my iPod, cafuego | 01:26 |
bob2 | feugan3333: dunno, if you wanted it, you'd just upgrade, or read the devel list | 01:26 |
indigo_ | Slipaway172: it doesn't really matter, but you can't have more than 4 primary partitions, and 4 subpartitions per extended partition | 01:26 |
bob2 | feugan3333: things like X are slightly broken, tho, so I wouldn't recommend it | 01:26 |
HrdwrBoB | FormerWindowsUse: use the 'create file structure' ion the menu | 01:26 |
Madpilot | bob2: OK, interesting. Ubuntu recognizes them as fonts, but OOo doesn't seem to... | 01:26 |
Slipaway172 | OoOohhhh ..... thanks | 01:26 |
feugan3333 | bob2: ahh ok | 01:26 |
bob2 | Madpilot: OO has it's own magic font system | 01:26 |
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cafuego | FormerWindowsUse: mkdir /media/ipod; sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda(X) /media/ipod | 01:26 |
bob2 | like it has it's own printing system, and toolkit, and java and ... | 01:27 |
bob2 | reuse is for the weak | 01:27 |
indigo_ | Slipaway172: http://www.ata-atapi.com/hiwtab.htm explains it in detail, but probably you don't really need to read it | 01:27 |
FormerWindowsUse | cafuego, will this screw up my sys? | 01:27 |
raven3x7 | indentbp, but for Slipaway172 backup drive its bobably irrelevant | 01:27 |
Madpilot | bob2: ah. I'll have a look thru OOo config then. or ask on #openoffice.org... | 01:27 |
cafuego | FormerWindowsUse: No | 01:28 |
raven3x7 | i just noticed that killall gnome-panel also kills azureus. thats weird | 01:28 |
FormerWindowsUse | cafuego, do you own an iPod Shuffle? | 01:28 |
HrdwrBoB | cafuego: it should automatically mount | 01:28 |
funkyHat | it sometimes kills gaim too, it's a bit annoying | 01:28 |
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cafuego | HrdwrBoB: That would depend on what's compiled into teh kernel. | 01:28 |
cafuego | HrdwrBoB: Notably Mac partition map support | 01:29 |
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HrdwrBoB | true, I converted my ipod to fat for better compatibility | 01:29 |
funkyHat | what do i need to do to get X to re-read fonts.conf? | 01:29 |
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cafuego | HrdwrBoB: Yes, I expect gtkpod wants that, which is why he might be having errors. | 01:29 |
cafuego | HrdwrBoB: he's not used it udner windows or macos... | 01:29 |
enyc | Urrrm, do the breezy openoffice2 packages work on hoary? are there backports available for hoary ? [i cant see them myself] | 01:30 |
enyc | only older 1.9.79 openoffice2 packages for hoary | 01:30 |
FormerWindowsUse | ok thanks cafuego | 01:30 |
FormerWindowsUse | :) | 01:30 |
HrdwrBoB | cafuego: gtkpod doesn't care | 01:30 |
HrdwrBoB | cafuego: gtkpod is file-level | 01:30 |
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bob2 | enyc: the breezy onesalmost certainly won't install on haory | 01:30 |
bob2 | wow, my typing is getting worse | 01:30 |
HrdwrBoB | unless you're talking about initialising the directories .. in which case, yes | 01:31 |
feugan3333 | Anybody running amd64 with an nvidia graphics card. The installer provided by nvidia seems broken1 | 01:31 |
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cafuego | HrdwrBoB: Would it whinge if you were on a kernel without apple partition map or hfsplus support? | 01:31 |
enyc | bob2: interesting | 01:31 |
cafuego | HrdwrBoB: (IF you had an apple formatted ipod) ? | 01:31 |
bob2 | feugan3333: so, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto | 01:31 |
HrdwrBoB | cafuego: only in dmesg | 01:31 |
HrdwrBoB | when it tried to mount it | 01:31 |
enyc | bob2: btw, I decided after much trying ot get used to various keyboards all over the place that my IBM ps/2 original clicky-clacky keyboard is the best that i make the least mistakes on and get east annoyed with | 01:31 |
cafuego | HrdwrBoB: He's getting some "Invalid structure" or somesuch error. | 01:31 |
bob2 | hah, I never been able to find one of them | 01:32 |
cafuego | HrdwrBoB: "file structure is invalid" | 01:32 |
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enyc | bob2: see http://clickykeyboards.com/ // http://www.pckeyboard.com/ ;-) | 01:32 |
cafuego | Never mind, he left anyway. | 01:32 |
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HrdwrBoB | cafuego: yeah, that's because the ipod needs to be 'initialised' | 01:33 |
hondje | I have some .mp4 files, nautilus doesn't recognize/thumbnail them, but xine plays them fine....how can I get them to thumbnail? | 01:33 |
HrdwrBoB | with certain directories | 01:33 |
JDahl | isn't it funny how laptop manufacturers charge you for recovery CDs and have more people in techsupport than a medium sized Europea city, and in the end all you need (and all that works) is a Linux boot CD? :/ | 01:33 |
cafuego | HrdwrBoB: Can gtkpod do that? | 01:33 |
HrdwrBoB | there is a very clear menu entry for doing so :) | 01:33 |
HrdwrBoB | in gtkpod | 01:33 |
cafuego | HrdwrBoB: Ok, user error on his part then :-) | 01:33 |
HrdwrBoB | yeah :) | 01:33 |
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HrdwrBoB | I have my wife's ipod mini :) | 01:34 |
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sphincter | another question... shutdown hangs for several minutes at deconfiguring network interfaces and on everything after that | 01:34 |
sphincter | ideas? | 01:34 |
feugan3333 | bob2: I'll take a look. Thanks | 01:34 |
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cafuego | my wife's birthday is in 32 days, she has a new mac mini and a new car stereo with ipod attachment.... | 01:34 |
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hondje | cafuego: buy her a keychain | 01:34 |
alejandro | hola | 01:34 |
sphincter | or a hotwheels | 01:34 |
cafuego | sphincter: We already have a few ACTUAL cars ;-) | 01:35 |
bob2 | enyc: oh, cool, I didn't know anyone had new ones anymore | 01:35 |
sphincter | ok, put linux on her mini | 01:35 |
sphincter | she'll thank you for it | 01:35 |
HrdwrBoB | cafuego: heh, an ipod mini is $SFA | 01:35 |
cafuego | sphincter: It's been running Kubuntu since the day we got it. | 01:35 |
HrdwrBoB | (well overall) | 01:36 |
sphincter | heh | 01:36 |
cafuego | HrdwrBoB: She wants an ipod photo, though (also have new digicam) | 01:36 |
sphincter | so why does this bloody thing hang so long at shutdown? | 01:36 |
HrdwrBoB | cafuego: why though? | 01:37 |
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HrdwrBoB | I mean.. pointless thing to argue with a woman | 01:37 |
HrdwrBoB | but last time I looked the camera already had a screen :) | 01:37 |
cafuego | HrdwrBoB: took the words out of my mouth | 01:37 |
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cafuego | I expect the large storage has something to do with it | 01:38 |
cafuego | our mp3s won't fit on a 30 or 40G ipod | 01:38 |
linlin | Hi, I installed ubuntu hedgehog a few weeks back, without a gui. Now, I want to put in a gui, what is the easiest way? | 01:38 |
robert_pectol | sphincter: Do your system logs give any clues? | 01:38 |
HrdwrBoB | cafuego: 4gb still holds a lot of mp3s :) | 01:38 |
cafuego | and who can really go to the shops without Right Said Fred? | 01:38 |
hondje | what's the difference between mpeg1, 2 and 4? | 01:38 |
pax | a women is just another partition, never gives you trouble unless you mount it | 01:38 |
enyc | ipods do seem a bit silly.. fancy and have the 1394 connection.. but there are many more players/etc. out ther to choose from with more versatile autdio-format support and everything.. it seems a bit odd to me | 01:39 |
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The_Vox | linlin: "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" if you want gnome...kubuntu-desktop if you want kde | 01:39 |
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HrdwrBoB | enyc: they have a very very very good interface and a few other things | 01:39 |
anto9us | I'm too sexy for the shops | 01:39 |
cafuego | enyc: The issue is ease of use. Pretty much any other player I've seen comes with shitty windows software | 01:39 |
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The_Vox | enyc: it's the Cool factor, nothing else matters :) | 01:40 |
enyc | hrrrm iirc they still supproted only mp3 [which isnt as good as newer codescs in many ways] and their weirdo aac which hardly any other portable player supports anyway.. and needs silly licensing etc. to useit | 01:40 |
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enyc | interesting | 01:40 |
cafuego | well, that and having it in the glovebox whilst you control it from the car stereo itself is handy re not crashing. | 01:40 |
HrdwrBoB | enyc: FLAC and mp3 | 01:40 |
HrdwrBoB | and AAC | 01:40 |
raven3x7 | linlin sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop i believe | 01:40 |
linlin | ok thanks | 01:40 |
enyc | hrrm, flac -- lossless, not really what you want for portable thignie in most cases | 01:40 |
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linlin | its downloading a bunch of stuffs now | 01:40 |
enyc | mp3 is not partcuarl good codec, you need needless anmounts of bitrate compared to aac, vorbis | 01:41 |
raven3x7 | The_Vox, why aptitude? | 01:41 |
The_Vox | linlin: it'll take a while...it downloads tons of stuff | 01:41 |
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enyc | aac is not well supported on anyt oher player thingie et.c and loads of rpograms, which tend to support either vorbis or wma instead | 01:41 |
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The_Vox | raven3x7: it has better dependancy management logarythm than apt....even debian has marked apt as deprecated for the new release, and marked aptitude as the prefered tool | 01:42 |
nalioth | y'all talking about an ipod or a mac mini in the glove box? | 01:42 |
cafuego | nalioth: yes | 01:42 |
IIIEars | synaptic works too. - good to know a variety of ways to install things. - synaptic is easiest | 01:42 |
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raven3x7 | The_Vox, didnn't know that. good to know | 01:42 |
The_Vox | nalioth: ipod...you need more hacking power to get a mini working in there :) | 01:42 |
JDahl | I'd rather make my own using gumstix... | 01:42 |
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raven3x7 | The_Vox should'nt it look for the cd first? | 01:43 |
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IIIEars | DRM - "Treat all of your customers like potential thieves." - O_o | 01:43 |
nickrud | IIIEars, lol | 01:44 |
The_Vox | raven3x7: only if you have the CD source for packages still uncomented in your sources.list | 01:44 |
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nickrud | he must work retail | 01:44 |
sphincter | so.... i'm thinking 10 minutes and counting for deconfiguring network interfaces isn't normal? | 01:44 |
The_Vox | raven3x7: the first thing I did when I installed was get rid of the CD line...I hate having to find CDs | 01:44 |
nebular | Ok after a year long lapse in windows world I just switched to kubuntu, and now I can't figure out how to configure my X server. the default settings work, but they're a little off. Debian used to ask a lot more configuration settings | 01:44 |
The_Vox | sphincter: it is too long...shouldn't take over a few seconds...a minute at the extreme | 01:45 |
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nickrud | nebular, you can do sudo dpkg-reconfigure -Plow xserver-xorg | 01:45 |
robert_pectol | sphincter: And your system logs?? | 01:45 |
raven3x7 | The_Vox, yeah i gues if you have a good connection it really doesnt matter | 01:45 |
anto9us | nebular: you can edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly if you're adventurous, make a backup first though | 01:46 |
roy | can someone help me change my display resolution 640x480 to 1024x768? | 01:46 |
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IIIEars | nickrud - "-Plow" - what does that switch do? | 01:46 |
sphincter | stops the kernel log daemon before deconfiguring network interfaces | 01:46 |
The_Vox | raven3x7: it's not only that...I have the (bad?) habit of treating CDs as disposable media...there's around 500 unlabeled CDs here that I have no clue what they have....looking through them to find the kubuntu CD I installed from is...not advaisable :) | 01:46 |
raven3x7 | roy system>settings>screen resolution | 01:46 |
roy | raven ...that doesn't work...and I'm new to linux - today is 1st day... | 01:47 |
IIIEars | The_Vox - recycly your old hard drives with USB external cases. | 01:47 |
nickrud | IIIEars, debconf has several levels for configuration, I don't remember them all, but critical asks the least questions, and low asks the most | 01:47 |
nalioth | roy: ubotu will send you a clue, watch him | 01:47 |
raven3x7 | The_Vox, i know what that feels like, although i do tend to at least write something on them | 01:47 |
nalioth | !resolution | 01:47 |
ubotu | resolution is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto | 01:47 |
The_Vox | IIIEars: that's what's sitting on top of my computer...couple of 40G and an 80G :) | 01:47 |
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HrdwrBoB | The_Vox: CDs are disposable media | 01:47 |
raven3x7 | roy what do you mean doesnt work exactly? | 01:48 |
IIIEars | nickrud - Nice tip. :) - can't help but to learn something new here. | 01:48 |
HrdwrBoB | just make sure you dispose of them | 01:48 |
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The_Vox | nickrud: thanks for that tip, didn't know it either :) | 01:48 |
cafuego | HrdwrBoB: Yeah, creek is full of 'em | 01:48 |
The_Vox | HrdwrBoB: hehehe that's also true :) I do need to get rid of all of these CDs :) | 01:48 |
roy | Raven3x7 - It only offers 640x480...no other choices... | 01:49 |
raven3x7 | roy interesting what drivers are you using? | 01:49 |
raven3x7 | roy btw you might wanna look at that wiki page ubuto spat out | 01:50 |
raven3x7 | ubotu | 01:50 |
roy | raven: i have a dell monitor w1700 with drivers that should do a lot more than 640x480. | 01:50 |
thoreauputic | roy: *cough* we suggest you read the recommended wiki page | 01:50 |
cafuego | !wiki FixVideoResolutionHowto | 01:51 |
roy | thoreauputic .... will do..... thanks all! | 01:51 |
IIIEars | <<- should put all USB drives on the desk. Gave the cats a bath and 10 mins later "Cat"-tastrophe they were peed on. - lol, kinda hard on the USB controllers | 01:51 |
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nickrud | who says cats art stupid ;\ | 01:51 |
nebular | is there a good resource for setting up multiple monitors using 2 different video cards? | 01:52 |
cafuego | IIIEars: yeah, you can throw those away. Corrosive as hell. | 01:52 |
IIIEars | <<- going to get a gerbil soon. - grin | 01:52 |
cafuego | IIIEars: That said, my Laserjet survived (though it needed a service and clean-out) | 01:52 |
robert_pectol | sphincter: Have you tried manually stopping the network? If so, does it take a long time? Are you certain it's the networking scripts that are taking so long to run? | 01:52 |
jmspeex | For some (unknown) reason, the Ubuntu installer kept failing in the "timezone" section. How do I set my timezone manually? | 01:52 |
IIIEars | difficult to hold nose and turn a screwdriver.... | 01:52 |
cafuego | IIIEars: If you can remove the actual drive from the case, rinsing the case in warm water and letting it dry out for a few days might save 'em | 01:53 |
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IIIEars | cafuego - interesting idea. i just tied the usb cable and box to the cats tail. - Just kidding. | 01:53 |
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nalioth | IIIEars: yes, cafuego is correct, a good washing, and let dry completely | 01:54 |
cwells | nebular: the best results i've had (not on ubuntu) is to put in one card, run X -configure, get the config, swap cards, repeat, then merge the two configs | 01:54 |
cafuego | IIIEars: I rescued an apple keyboard by dumping it in warm water and hanging it on a clothesline for a week. Mind you, that was coffee, not cat. | 01:54 |
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IIIEars | searched ebay for cat diapers. - no luck. - lol | 01:55 |
cafuego | IIIEars: corks | 01:55 |
IIIEars | ROFL | 01:55 |
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wrtpeeps | hi, i am wondering if i am allowed to redistribute ubuntuguide.org's downloadable guide | 01:55 |
Madpilot | "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are not subtle and will pee on your computer" - read somewhere on the net... :) | 01:56 |
nickrud | wrtpeeps, I think it's under the gpl now, check it's copywrite | 01:56 |
nalioth | oh i've reached nirvana now! | 01:56 |
cwells | wrtpeeps: does it have a license with it? | 01:56 |
nalioth | nickrud: the ubuntuguide? | 01:56 |
IIIEars | wrtppeps - it's updated frequently to reflect changes with ubuntu. - much easier to add a link to it. | 01:56 |
wrtpeeps | i will check | 01:56 |
nickrud | nalioth, yes, I was browsing the docs mailling list, and the author approved putting it under the gpl | 01:57 |
cwells | IIIEars: he could mirror it | 01:57 |
nickrud | don't know if actually is, yet | 01:57 |
wrtpeeps | ah, in the Disclaimer | 01:57 |
wrtpeeps | it's GNU GPL | 01:57 |
cwells | the GPL is a disclaimer? | 01:58 |
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wrtpeeps | cwells: yea, under Disclaimer it says copyright.... released under GNU Gpl..... no warranty .. blah blah blah | 01:58 |
cwells | ah | 01:59 |
cwells | no warranty | 01:59 |
cwells | k | 01:59 |
cwells | makes sense | 01:59 |
cwells | wrtpeeps: are you looking to provide a mirror for general consumption? | 01:59 |
wrtpeeps | explain? | 01:59 |
cwells | i guess not | 01:59 |
IIIEars | GNU Public License - It can be distributed and any derivitive works using it must be freely available. | 02:00 |
wrtpeeps | am i looking to provide a mirror for people to download off? | 02:00 |
bob2 | that's not quite true | 02:00 |
cwells | yes | 02:00 |
wrtpeeps | yes | 02:00 |
nalioth | nickrud: good! there is hope yet | 02:00 |
cwells | just the docs? | 02:00 |
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wrtpeeps | yes | 02:00 |
raven3x7 | need to get some sleep | 02:00 |
nickrud | nalioth, yes, and if you'll look, the repositories are already fixed :) | 02:00 |
cwells | thanks, i was just wondering | 02:00 |
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auk | hmm it is 17:00 here | 02:00 |
bob2 | IIIEars: the author of derivative works can decide who he/she gives them to, and only those people have the right to ask for the source | 02:00 |
wrtpeeps | ubuntuguide is unofficial docs right? | 02:00 |
bob2 | IIIEars: those people can of course give it to whoever they like, tho | 02:01 |
bob2 | wrtpeeps: yes | 02:01 |
nalioth | wrtpeeps: very unofficial | 02:01 |
auk | !ubuntuguide | 02:01 |
IIIEars | the repos are fixed? - growing pains ubuntu is getting very popular. - wide grin | 02:01 |
ubotu | hmm... ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide. Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why. | 02:01 |
wrtpeeps | are the official docs available to download | 02:01 |
TokenBad | whats a bandwidth monitor for ubuntu? | 02:01 |
thoreauputic | I think that factoid needs rewording :/ | 02:01 |
nickrud | heh, ubotu still has the right answer, though | 02:01 |
auk | wrtpeeps: if you want to download the entire wiki | 02:02 |
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bob2 | thoreauputic: iptraf is nice | 02:02 |
wrtpeeps | pffff | 02:02 |
wrtpeeps | ok | 02:02 |
wrtpeeps | anyway | 02:02 |
wrtpeeps | bedtime | 02:02 |
thoreauputic | TokenBad: I think bob2 meant that for you :) | 02:02 |
bob2 | er | 02:02 |
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IIIEars | the ubuntuguide contains from what i have heard some misinformation about configuring repositories. specifically backports | 02:02 |
bob2 | TokenBad: iptraf is nice | 02:02 |
socomm | !guide | 02:02 |
wrtpeeps | good night | 02:02 |
ubotu | socomm: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about | 02:02 |
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Mobius | anyone know where one finds information about themeing GDM? | 02:03 |
TokenBad | thanks | 02:03 |
IIIEars | gnomelook.org? | 02:03 |
socomm | Mobius: http://www.google.com | 02:03 |
Mobius | thanks for the help socomm -_- | 02:04 |
IIIEars | heh | 02:04 |
nickrud | IIIEars, good point. at least it doesn't have marillat, and all that really needs to change on the repo's is commenting out backports, and pointing out how to uncomment them for codecs and a couple other things | 02:04 |
nalioth | well i was not aware it'd been gpl'd | 02:04 |
IIIEars | ubuntuguide is well done concise and step by step illustrated. | 02:05 |
socomm | IIIEars: The thing about the ubuntu guide is that theres very little explation behind the process. | 02:05 |
nickrud | except when it's wrong, like rp-pppoe. (at least that was bad) | 02:05 |
nalioth | IIIEars: with no "how or why" to learn from | 02:05 |
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nickrud | maybe it should be retitled to expertubuntuguide :) | 02:06 |
DAC1138 | theme GDM? | 02:06 |
DAC1138 | wow, there''s such an interest in themeing everything nowdays | 02:06 |
thoreauputic | at least the language on the wiki link for "don't advise ubuntuguide" has been improved... formerly it was kind of offensive | 02:07 |
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DAC1138 | even login screens in which you only see every time you login. | 02:07 |
liz4rd | whats the package called for the ms fonts? | 02:07 |
IIIEars | I couldn't have done without it. - true i didn't learn a lot that was transferable. It was a toehold into linux | 02:07 |
thoreauputic | liz4rd: msttcorefonts | 02:07 |
nickrud | I think that reflects the doc teams efforts to integrate it into the mainstream docs | 02:07 |
DAC1138 | but thats the cool thing about linux, everything is customizeable | 02:07 |
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nalioth | liz4rd: msttcorefonts, i believe | 02:07 |
bit0 | cafuego, are you using breezy? | 02:08 |
socomm | liz4rd: What nalioth said. | 02:08 |
liz4rd | k thx | 02:08 |
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aceidia | does anyone know of a dvd player i can find? | 02:08 |
Madpilot | !msfonts | 02:08 |
ubotu | methinks msfonts is apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need universe enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first. | 02:08 |
aceidia | on multiverse? | 02:09 |
blaylock | anybody know why i get an error saying that [somelang] .UTF-8 does not exist when i try to use a different language? | 02:09 |
socomm | aceidia: totem-xine | 02:09 |
aceidia | thx | 02:09 |
nickrud | aceidia, and vlc and mplayer | 02:09 |
nalioth | aceidia: any of your media players will play dvds, with the right codecs | 02:09 |
blaylock | ive installed the various language packs via synaptic | 02:09 |
IIIEars | everyone has a favorite. - grin | 02:09 |
bit0 | where could i find mkfontdir file ? (breezy) | 02:09 |
socomm | nickrud: mplayer does not support dvd-menu though, dunno about vlc. | 02:09 |
thoreauputic | the !msfonts factoid is inaccurate: msttcorefonts is in multiverse | 02:09 |
aceidia | i have mplayer but it wont work | 02:09 |
nickrud | blaylock, I think you have to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales | 02:10 |
blaylock | ahh | 02:10 |
nalioth | !info msttcorefonts | 02:10 |
ubotu | msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB | 02:10 |
tanki | hi socomm | 02:10 |
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socomm | Hello. | 02:10 |
nickrud | aceidia, try mplayer -ao esd <file> see if that works | 02:10 |
nalioth | cafuego: what other db can ubotu be piped into? | 02:10 |
tanki | socomm, can you view flash? | 02:11 |
Madpilot | is someone re-writing !msfonts? | 02:11 |
socomm | tanki: Yes. Follow the guide on ubuntus wiki. | 02:12 |
socomm | !restricted | 02:12 |
ubotu | well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats | 02:12 |
IIIEars | VLC is nice and can be used with all platforms | 02:12 |
tanki | socomm, http://omgwtf.superlime.com/attention.swf heehee | 02:12 |
IIIEars | okay i don't think it works with amiga | 02:12 |
nickrud | just be sure to get vlc-esd if you use ubuntu | 02:13 |
socomm | Haha. | 02:13 |
thoreauputic | !msfonts | 02:13 |
ubotu | I guess msfonts is apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first. | 02:13 |
thoreauputic | OK | 02:13 |
thoreauputic | Madpilot: done | 02:14 |
thoreauputic | hmm...missing sudo... | 02:14 |
Steve0 | Does anyone know how to keep movies' audio/video in sync in various Linux players? I'm trying to play a series of movies that play fine in Windows. | 02:14 |
Madpilot | thoreauputic: good; I wrote the original but it was a straight copy'n'paste of !msttcorefonts or something too long... | 02:14 |
Madpilot | !msttcorefonts | 02:14 |
ubotu | I guess msttcorefonts is apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need universe enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first. | 02:14 |
Madpilot | ubotu forget msttcorefonts | 02:15 |
ubotu | Madpilot: i forgot msttcorefonts | 02:15 |
blaylock | thanks nickrud, i think it worked | 02:15 |
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blaylock | now to test it | 02:15 |
blaylock | :) | 02:15 |
Madpilot | ubotu msttcorefonts is apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first. | 02:15 |
ubotu | okay, Madpilot | 02:15 |
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Madpilot | just to be completist about it... | 02:15 |
IIIEars | !DVD | 02:16 |
ubotu | IIIEars: I give up, what is it? | 02:16 |
thoreauputic | Madpilot: I also inserted a sudo in the msfonts one | 02:16 |
socomm | !dvd | 02:16 |
ubotu | socomm: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about | 02:16 |
PLaf | i'm trying to boot to the install cd/live cd, but even though the bios allows me to set cdroom to boot, it wont find the boot sectors on the cds | 02:16 |
socomm | PLaf: Could it be that you burned a freesbie instead of cd? | 02:16 |
thoreauputic | Madpilot: teaching the bot should pronbably be done in /query | 02:16 |
Madpilot | thoreauputic: i /msg'd ubotu, I'll fix the long msttcorefonts one now | 02:17 |
PLaf | socomm: i ordered the cd's from ubuntu, it came in that cute little packet | 02:17 |
thoreauputic | Madpilot: K | 02:17 |
socomm | PLaf: Hmmmm. | 02:17 |
nalioth | PLaf: are the cds burnt properly? (correct MD5s run on teh image adn the disk?) | 02:17 |
PLaf | nalioth: well, once i boot into windows i can access the cd's fine | 02:18 |
socomm | PLaf: Do other cds boot fine? | 02:18 |
PLaf | socomm: nope | 02:18 |
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PLaf | see the thing is guyz, i have win95 installed, and i DESPERATELY need something else because it sucks | 02:18 |
socomm | PLaf: What is the primary boot device? | 02:18 |
socomm | Try setting your cd room as your first boot device. | 02:18 |
socomm | CD->Floppy->HDD, or something like that. | 02:19 |
PLaf | socomm: right now its just the harddrive, i already tried setting the cd as #1, and it just said "insert boot disk" | 02:19 |
IIIEars | ubotu DVD is There are several DVD applications Totem is installed with Ubuntu add totem-xine and it should work. Mplayer,VLC (Cross platform), XINE are just a few. All are threatened by US style patents. | 02:19 |
ubotu | okay, IIIEars | 02:19 |
socomm | Well you could make a boot floppy and then point the installer to use the CD. | 02:19 |
nalioth | IIIEars: but you need codecs, for most of them to play dvds | 02:20 |
hondje | PLaf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto | 02:20 |
PLaf | ah thats smart, are there doc's on the web that explain how to do that? | 02:20 |
PLaf | ah thank you hondje | 02:20 |
hondje | :) No problem | 02:20 |
IIIEars | ffmpeg is warning on it site that it will close soon. | 02:20 |
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tanki | socomm, when you get done with helping people i have another which requires a lot of reading and is long but is hella funny | 02:21 |
cwells | IIIEars: ? | 02:21 |
IIIEars | most players use a restricted codec. - got my fingers crossed that europeans wake up and crush the move towards new patent laws. | 02:21 |
hondje | I think they already did | 02:22 |
cwells | http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/index.php | 02:22 |
cwells | i don't see anything | 02:22 |
thoreauputic | IIIEars: the patents directive was defeated | 02:22 |
IIIEars | Ah, great! - you made my day. :) | 02:22 |
nickrud | ah, good news for once | 02:22 |
IIIEars | ubotu forget DVD | 02:23 |
ubotu | i forgot dvd, IIIEars | 02:23 |
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|QuaD- | always love when my X won't start after a reboot on breezy :) | 02:23 |
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socomm | Why are you using breezy? | 02:24 |
aru | me too, which is why I love stable | 02:24 |
|QuaD- | socomm: why not? | 02:24 |
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teferi | socomm: because I'm a crazy masochist, clearly | 02:25 |
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|QuaD- | teferi: :) | 02:25 |
wonderland | can anyone help | 02:25 |
teferi | also because seven years of running debian unstable has taught me how to deal with massive breakage | 02:25 |
bob2 | wonderland: you need to ask a question first... | 02:25 |
socomm | Well if youre running the development branch you really have no right to complain when things break. | 02:25 |
teferi | i even know how to hack preinst and postinst scripts and fuck with dpkg internals at this point | 02:25 |
teferi | hey, i don't complain | 02:25 |
wonderland | is there any kind people liker there are on ubuntuforums.org | 02:25 |
aru | there won't be, unless you ask a question :) | 02:26 |
wonderland | I bet there alot of hackers here and can sense that im n00b and gonna hack the fuck out of me | 02:26 |
thoreauputic | socomm: I didn't notice any complaints... | 02:26 |
socomm | teferi: I was not refering to you in particular. | 02:26 |
teferi | i actually find ubuntu's unstable branch to be a heck of a lot more stable than debian's unstable branches | 02:26 |
teferi | have been | 02:26 |
teferi | i've yet to get a single package ending up in 'Half-installed' | 02:26 |
socomm | always love when my X won't start after a reboot on breezy | 02:26 |
bob2 | wonderland: please just ask your question | 02:26 |
teferi | wonderland: relax and ask already, man | 02:26 |
parabolize | wonderland just ask man | 02:26 |
teferi | just chill | 02:26 |
cwells | wonderland: just turn your computer off. you'll feel safer | 02:26 |
|QuaD- | socomm: i never complained | 02:26 |
thoreauputic | wonderland: I think you misunderstand the term "hacker" | 02:26 |
IIIEars | ubotu DVD is There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. | 02:26 |
ubotu | okay, IIIEars | 02:26 |
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wonderland | ok, i need help regarding apache | 02:27 |
teferi | IIIEars: gstreamer totem does DVDs now too | 02:27 |
teferi | ...wait, only in breezy, nevermind | 02:27 |
wonderland | i have read the bit in the ubuntu guide of where it says "Q: How to map URLs to folders outside /var/www/?" | 02:27 |
IIIEars | ubotu DVD is also gstreamer-totem | 02:27 |
ubotu | okay, IIIEars | 02:27 |
wonderland | And i dont understand it | 02:27 |
nickrud | IIIEars, it's totem-gstreamer | 02:28 |
teferi | ubotu, ubuntuguide? | 02:28 |
ubotu | I guess ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide. Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why. | 02:28 |
teferi | ^^-- | 02:28 |
bob2 | wonderland: so, why don't you ask a specific question | 02:28 |
cwells | wonderland: you can use symlinks | 02:28 |
bob2 | then someone can give you a specific answer | 02:28 |
nalioth | IIIEars: do those players play DVD out of the box? | 02:29 |
Madpilot | !question | 02:29 |
ubotu | No idea, Madpilot | 02:29 |
thoreauputic | !hacker | 02:29 |
ubotu | I guess hacker is well, a misunderstood term: see http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/H/hacker.html | 02:29 |
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Madpilot | !questions | 02:29 |
ubotu | questions is, like, recommend reading: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | 02:29 |
wonderland | the information the guide gives to add to the new file, thats what i dont understand, where it saysAlias /URL-path /location_of_folder/ | 02:29 |
wonderland | <Directory /location_of_folder/> | 02:29 |
wonderland | Options Indexes FollowSymLinks | 02:29 |
wonderland | AllowOverride All | 02:29 |
wonderland | Order allow,deny | 02:29 |
wonderland | Allow from all | 02:29 |
IIIEars | unfortuneatly - no, - all need codecs added. except VLC for windows | 02:29 |
wonderland | </Directory> | 02:29 |
wonderland | Alias /URL-path /location_of_folder/ | 02:29 |
wonderland | <Directory /location_of_folder/> | 02:29 |
cafuego | !ubuntuguide =~ s/3/4/ | 02:29 |
ubotu | OK, cafuego | 02:29 |
wonderland | Options Indexes FollowSymLinks | 02:29 |
wonderland | AllowOverride All | 02:29 |
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bob2 | wonderland: please don't paste crap in here | 02:29 |
wonderland | Order allow,deny | 02:29 |
aru | hmm | 02:29 |
cafuego | wonderland: Please stop pasting. | 02:29 |
wonderland | Allow from all | 02:29 |
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Madpilot | !pastebin | 02:29 |
ubotu | rumour has it, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood | 02:29 |
thoreauputic | *sigh* | 02:30 |
Madpilot | ...heh... | 02:30 |
nalioth | IIIEars: then you should probably amend the factoid to include that additional codecs WILL be necessary for DVD enjoyment | 02:30 |
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hondje | eww, sending people to ESR? :( | 02:30 |
teferi | hondje: indeed :( | 02:30 |
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thoreauputic | hondje: have you read the jargon file? It's very good and entertaining | 02:31 |
Madpilot | what, the !questions thing I made? skim the article, it's pretty good... | 02:31 |
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thoreauputic | hondje: not everything esr does is bad, you know ;) | 02:31 |
wonderland | can someone help please, that bit i pasted above, | 02:31 |
hondje | No, I never read the jargon file, other than when someone links to an anti-sco joke :) | 02:31 |
socomm | ESR is a good guy. When you said Ewwww you probably meant RMS. | 02:31 |
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bob2 | esr's a bit of a nutter | 02:32 |
socomm | Still, I admire RMS more than most people. | 02:32 |
bob2 | and far too eager to just babble instead of hacking | 02:32 |
nickrud | Madpilot, maybe start with 'when you ask a question, be as specific as you can, <the link> can provide guidance' | 02:32 |
hondje | RMS hasn't really ever been wrong :) | 02:32 |
wonderland | where do i change it to make it work on home/chris/public_html | 02:32 |
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Madpilot | nickrud: good point. hold on... | 02:32 |
wonderland | IS THERE A BLOODY PLACE PEOPLE CAN GET SOME HELP HERE. OR DOES EVERY ONE CHAT CRAP | 02:32 |
thoreauputic | bob2: I agree - but the jargon file is kind of fun | 02:32 |
aru | heh | 02:33 |
hondje | ESR wants people to wear 'the game of life' logo as an official hacker thing, and pretends that it's still 1989....RMS wears a robe and calls himself a saint | 02:33 |
thoreauputic | wonderland: great psychology, sir | 02:33 |
socomm | hondje: Funny, neither have I. :P | 02:33 |
bob2 | wonderland: just ask your question, and don't flood the channel | 02:33 |
nickrud | wonderland, probably noone around feels competent enough; wait a bit and ask again | 02:33 |
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HrdwrBoB | wonderland: if you used pastebin | 02:33 |
bob2 | wonderland: where it says "URL-path" it means "the path you want to have appear at the end of the url" | 02:33 |
HrdwrBoB | wonderland: people could look at your problem properly | 02:33 |
hondje | wonderland: what part of that guide thing confused you? | 02:33 |
thoreauputic | wonderland: also shouting doesn't endear you to people | 02:33 |
bob2 | wonderland: where it says "location_of_folder", it means "where is the folder on your hard disk" | 02:33 |
hondje | thoreauputic: well, I'm mostly deaf so sometimes it helps :) | 02:33 |
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wonderland | the folder which is var/www | 02:34 |
socomm | hondje: http://stallman.org/harry-potter.html | 02:34 |
Madpilot | tweaked !questions: | 02:34 |
Madpilot | !questions | 02:34 |
ubotu | somebody said questions was what #ubuntu exists for. Please help by asking good, clear questions. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html is recommended reading. | 02:34 |
PLaf | hey hondje, i tried the smartbootmanager, and when i booted it said "SBM Bad!" | 02:34 |
funkyHat | xmms has mysteriously stopped playing .wma files | 02:34 |
DAC1138 | xmms never works here | 02:35 |
DAC1138 | loads, then freezes and needs killed | 02:35 |
bob2 | wonderland: I don't think you've really explained what you're trying to do, though | 02:35 |
wonderland | what do i replace with this part: /URL-path /location_of_folder/ | 02:35 |
bob2 | wonderland: which makes it hard to help you | 02:35 |
funkyHat | :( i don't like any of the other media players | 02:35 |
bob2 | wonderland: by default it serves /var/www, so you don't need to do anything | 02:35 |
nickrud | Madpilot, very nice | 02:35 |
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DAC1138 | anyone here able to get ANY audio editing apps working? | 02:35 |
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wonderland | the guide gives you text to enter in a text file, which is that text that i copied and pasted | 02:36 |
DAC1138 | or is my ubuntu install just b0rked? | 02:36 |
nickrud | DAC1138, try changing the audio output | 02:36 |
DAC1138 | nickrud, how do i do that? | 02:36 |
wonderland | so what do i replace with this part of the text: /URL-path /location_of_folder/ | 02:36 |
thoreauputic | DAC1138: yes, audacity works for me | 02:36 |
chaps0063 | has anyone gotten any WMAs that are DRM'd to play? | 02:36 |
DAC1138 | thoreauputic, doesnt work here, says some crap about not being able to access sound system | 02:36 |
funkyHat | chaps0063, no, it's not possible at the moment | 02:36 |
chaps0063 | funkyHat: darn. | 02:37 |
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bob2 | wonderland: so, stop talking and explain what the hell you're trying to do | 02:37 |
thoreauputic | DAC1138: yet another esd issue, I'm afraid | 02:37 |
funkyHat | untill someone breaks the wma drm ;) | 02:37 |
bob2 | wonderland: if your goal is "have apache server the contents of /var/www", you're already done | 02:37 |
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wonderland | bib can i talk to you by your self | 02:37 |
nickrud | DAC1138, I don't have it installed at the moment, but right click options/preferences, something like that I think | 02:37 |
tobsen | hello | 02:37 |
bob2 | wonderland: if it's something else, you've done a terrible job if enlighetning it | 02:37 |
indentp | I succesfully installed the buggy rt8180 driver by using driverloader and i am getting a signal from the wireless network but I still can not access the internet or ping any websites | 02:37 |
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thoreauputic | DAC1138: short and dirty way: killall esd - longer way, configure dmix and get rid of esd | 02:37 |
DAC1138 | "Error initializing the i/o layer" | 02:37 |
HrdwrBoB | wonderland: you want to have your webserver serve the contents of /home/user/public_html by default? | 02:38 |
bob2 | wonderland: just ask your real question | 02:38 |
wonderland | yes | 02:38 |
HrdwrBoB | ok. | 02:38 |
wonderland | ho fucking ray | 02:38 |
indentp | are there any settings in konqueror i am forgeting about? | 02:38 |
HrdwrBoB | wonderland: you could have said that. | 02:38 |
nickrud | :) | 02:38 |
wonderland | well like i said im a n00b | 02:38 |
funkyHat | anyone got any ideas for my xmms-wma problem? | 02:38 |
DAC1138 | thoreauputic, that worked. thatnks. | 02:38 |
HrdwrBoB | easiest way is to go to /vart | 02:38 |
DAC1138 | thoreauputic, is that a bug they're working on in ubuntu? | 02:38 |
HrdwrBoB | /var | 02:38 |
bob2 | wonderland: so, stop telling us what you don't understand, and just tell us what you're trying to do | 02:38 |
HrdwrBoB | sudo mv www www-orig | 02:39 |
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wonderland | you just said what i want to do | 02:39 |
thoreauputic | DAC1138: I believe breezy will fix it, yes | 02:39 |
HrdwrBoB | sudo ln -s /home/yourusername/public_html www | 02:39 |
nickrud | best way, if it's not a portable, is getting a sound card that supports hardware mixing | 02:39 |
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bob2 | wonderland: so, you don't need to do anything, apache is already doing that | 02:39 |
HrdwrBoB | anything based on the emu10k1 is good | 02:39 |
parabolize | wonderland: when you get some free time read this: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | 02:39 |
HrdwrBoB | sblive | 02:39 |
bob2 | wonderland: and in future, just ask your question to begin with, don't flood the channel, and don't be aggressive and rude to people trying to help you | 02:39 |
indentp | can ayone help me with a wifi card problem? | 02:39 |
HrdwrBoB | wonderland: what *I* said or what he said | 02:40 |
funkyHat | well, i'd like to be able to configue both my soundcards :D not a lot of hope of that is there | 02:40 |
wonderland | but how does apache now that public_html | 02:40 |
wonderland | is being part of its webserver | 02:40 |
bob2 | wonderland: it's configured to do that in apache2.conf | 02:40 |
nickrud | funkyHat, yes, alsa supports that, look on alsa-project.org | 02:41 |
wonderland | ok so im going to add a file in there called index.php but how do i access that file | 02:41 |
PLaf | great, im trying to make a boot disk and windoze is giving me magic disk problems rofl | 02:41 |
tobsen | hello can i just ask something quickly? i dont know how to tell the terminal that ive got SUDO rights... the thing is: i want to mount a HD but the PC thinks ive got no rights :o | 02:41 |
tobsen | thanks :P | 02:41 |
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nickrud | tobsen, do you still have your originally installed user account available? | 02:42 |
hondje | wonderland: if it's in the root dir for your webserver, you just go to your domain (or 127.0.0.1) and it'll pop up | 02:42 |
tobsen | yes | 02:42 |
tobsen | i was just told i should type "su command" | 02:42 |
nickrud | tobsen, log in as that user, then sudo adduser <newuser> admin | 02:42 |
funkyHat | nickrud, one of my soundcards appears to be using ALSA (I can see them both in , but can't choose between them in applications) | 02:42 |
HrdwrBoB | tobsen: sudo | 02:42 |
HrdwrBoB | not su | 02:42 |
bob2 | tobsen: no, 'sudo command' | 02:42 |
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wonderland | but it wont be becuse var/www/ is completely locked and un writable | 02:43 |
tobsen | no i dont want a new user i just want the system to know ive got the rights | 02:43 |
bob2 | tobsen: look at the adduser manpage, that command is not creating a new user | 02:43 |
wonderland | thats why iwant to create a folder away | 02:43 |
hondje | why would you want a php script to write to /var/www? | 02:43 |
bob2 | it's adding an existing one to the admin group | 02:43 |
tobsen | ahh, sorry i am very new to ubuntu :blush: | 02:43 |
bob2 | hondje: he/she wants to write to a php script there | 02:43 |
hondje | oh, you can't copy it to there | 02:43 |
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HrdwrBoB | wonderland: make the php file | 02:44 |
wonderland | finally someone | 02:44 |
HrdwrBoB | wonderland: then use sudo to copy it | 02:44 |
hondje | sudo cp index.php /var/www/index.php | 02:44 |
HrdwrBoB | sudo cp index.php /var/www | 02:44 |
PLaf | oh too slow :D | 02:44 |
hondje | sudo gives you permission to write there, cp copies | 02:44 |
wonderland | could i do that in gui | 02:44 |
wonderland | instead of going sudo | 02:44 |
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PLaf | personally, i hate guis | 02:44 |
nickrud | funkyHat, I ran two cards a while ago, I think I had to write wrapper scripts, but my memory extremely fuzzy on htat | 02:44 |
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wonderland | becuase scripting php in linux is gona be a nightmare | 02:44 |
bob2 | wonderland: er, no, it's the same as writing php anywhere | 02:45 |
nickrud | *is extremely fuzzy on that | 02:45 |
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wonderland | ok ill make the php file | 02:45 |
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TheWarMachine | where is realplayer installeed | 02:45 |
TheWarMachine | ? | 02:45 |
tobsen | the user i am currently logged in with is already member of the "admin group" | 02:45 |
nalioth | wonderland: giving a gui root priveleges to fix your current problem can lead to your user account being severely messed up | 02:45 |
bob2 | tobsen: paste the exact error you got to #flood | 02:46 |
bob2 | including the command you ran | 02:46 |
indentp | I am getting excellent signal on my KWiFi Manager but still can not ping or access any websites.... any ideas? | 02:46 |
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joKKer_fr | des francais ici ? | 02:46 |
wonderland | ok | 02:46 |
TheWarMachine | where is realplayer installeed | 02:46 |
hondje | joKKer_fr: #ubuntu-fr | 02:46 |
tobsen | its in german *blush | 02:46 |
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wonderland | ill note that | 02:46 |
socomm | joKKer_fr: /join #unbuntu-fr | 02:46 |
joKKer_fr | ok thanks | 02:46 |
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tobsen | tobsen@Tobsen:~$ sudo adduser tobsen admin | 02:46 |
tobsen | Der Benutzer tobsen ist bereits ein Mitglied der Gruppe admin. | 02:46 |
indentp | It took me a good 8 hours to get this driver installed, and I finally got the card up and running, but still no internet | 02:47 |
evader | Hi I'm using Hoary. How can I get some sort of mail notification for Evolution in my systray/notfication area please? | 02:47 |
tobsen | it says "tobsen is already a membe rof the admin group" | 02:47 |
wonderland | does that mean ill have to use console mode through out my whole php coding experience in ubuntu | 02:47 |
evader | I thought there was an applet, cant fidn it | 02:47 |
funkyHat | TheWarMachine, do locate realplayer | 02:47 |
bob2 | tobsen: no, from the command you were trying to run to begin with | 02:47 |
bob2 | wonderland: no | 02:47 |
indentp | are there any special settings in konqueror i am overlooking? | 02:47 |
PLaf | blarg, ive tried two different ways to install SBM, and both have failed | 02:47 |
wonderland | anyway i created the php file now its in desktop where shall i copy it to in gui | 02:47 |
tobsen | tobsen@Tobsen:~$ mkdir /media/windows_c | 02:47 |
thoreauputic | wonderland: try to be less negative: there are usually solutions if you need them :) | 02:48 |
bob2 | tobsen: no, that's wrong | 02:48 |
tobsen | i was trying that | 02:48 |
bob2 | tobsen: sudo mkdir /media/windows_c | 02:48 |
tobsen | Oh | 02:48 |
DAC1138 | alright, this is beginning to annoy me. my mouse lags every time i open a program or have a sudden jump in cpu useage | 02:48 |
tobsen | Ohhh | 02:48 |
tobsen | :) | 02:48 |
tobsen | thank you I'll try | 02:48 |
wonderland | i dont mean to be rude but what does that mean | 02:48 |
DAC1138 | ive got a 2.2 ghz processor and 768 mb ram, i should see lag in a mouse cursor | 02:48 |
evader | Anyone please? Mail notifcation with Evolution in the systray? Is there an applet? Anything? | 02:48 |
bob2 | evader: just use the mail notification applet | 02:49 |
DAC1138 | evader, gdesklets maybe | 02:49 |
wonderland | o yeah i have NOT dont this step of the guide "How to map URLs to folders outside /var/www/?" | 02:49 |
bob2 | wonderland: yes, that's fine | 02:49 |
nickrud | evader, not really no, the one that comes with ubuntu is not really useful with evo | 02:49 |
umarmung | evader: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=402 | 02:49 |
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indentp | cafuego: you there? my card has signall but I still can not ping any addresses outside of my network | 02:49 |
indentp | my head is about to explode | 02:49 |
wonderland | do i need to do that step to make home/chris/public_html run as part of the server | 02:50 |
chaps0063 | I was hoping to get some help in setting up apache/mysql as inetd for use on my laptop instead of daemon. | 02:50 |
nickrud | oh, umarmung thanks | 02:50 |
aceidia | can anyone help me to get mplayer to play dvd's..? | 02:50 |
nickrud | gonna try that very soon | 02:50 |
nalioth | evader: there is a mail-notification applet, but dont think it runs with evolution | 02:50 |
chaps0063 | aceidia: you need libdvdcss2 | 02:50 |
cafuego | indentp: Load drivers, set options (essid, key, etc) fetch IP, set route, off you go. | 02:50 |
TheWarMachine | im not getting any sound from realplayer | 02:50 |
TheWarMachine | or vlc | 02:50 |
chaps0063 | aceidia: plus, I use xine-ui instead. | 02:50 |
wonderland | bob2: please help | 02:51 |
TheWarMachine | any thoughts? | 02:51 |
wonderland | weres bob2? | 02:51 |
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bob2 | wonderland: no, as I said, you don't need to | 02:51 |
DAC1138 | aceidia, yeah, why limit yourself to mplayer? | 02:51 |
nickrud | TheWarMachine, you probably need vlc-esd | 02:51 |
aceidia | if i get that do i need to get the codex or w/e.? | 02:51 |
DAC1138 | aceidia, there's xine, videolan, ogle (i use ogle, it supports menus) and i think powerdvd for linux is out, though its not free | 02:51 |
wonderland | ok sorry for being a pain, but then what do i do, just please give me a general step by step guide | 02:51 |
bob2 | wonderland: no | 02:52 |
chaps0063 | aceidia: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories | 02:52 |
bob2 | wonderland: you need to ask specific questions | 02:52 |
bob2 | wonderland: you have apache working, and youve been told how to put your php file there | 02:52 |
funkyHat | wonderland, all you need to do is uncomment the related lines in apache2.conf, and make sure your home directory permissions are ok | 02:52 |
bob2 | wonderland: what do you want to do next? | 02:52 |
chaps0063 | aceidia: add those, then sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 xine-ui | 02:52 |
aceidia | i'm new don;t know what i can get.. | 02:52 |
indentp | cafuego: drivers are loaded, essid is correct and no WEP for now... no local ip address picked up under KWiFi Manager however | 02:52 |
chaps0063 | aceidia: I was new once too...:-) | 02:52 |
TheWarMachine | nickrud, what about realplayer? | 02:52 |
aceidia | k thanx | 02:52 |
DAC1138 | aceidia, doesnt matter if you're new, look at the ubuntu guide | 02:52 |
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wonderland | does this not leave security issues | 02:52 |
nickrud | TheWarMachine, I haven | 02:52 |
bob2 | wonderland: how? | 02:53 |
chaps0063 | DAC1138: yeah, I was a nub one day...I still am..hehe | 02:53 |
TheWarMachine | ?? | 02:53 |
wonderland | wy the way where is the config file | 02:53 |
indentp | getting excellent signal strength, yet still cant get online | 02:53 |
nickrud | 't configured realplayer recently, but I think you need to configure it to use esd for sound | 02:53 |
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DAC1138 | chaps0063, we're all n00bs, we're just a higher level :) | 02:53 |
TheWarMachine | how wuld I do that? | 02:53 |
bob2 | wonderland: /etc/apache2/ (basically all packages put system config files in /etc/packagename/) | 02:53 |
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DAC1138 | but the thing is, you can be a n00b, that doesnt mean the ubuntu guide is too hard | 02:53 |
bob2 | wonderland: but please don't touch it, you'll only screw it up | 02:53 |
chaps0063 | DAC1138: but now I can install java without looking at any directions. | 02:53 |
DAC1138 | actually, the unofficial ubuntu guide is the best written distro documentation ive ever seen | 02:53 |
chaps0063 | DAC1138: and thats a big step from where I was, got my start with mandrake. | 02:54 |
knowledge_ | really stupid question....when using Gnome....are you using GTK+ or X11? | 02:54 |
bob2 | knowledge_: both | 02:54 |
DAC1138 | knowledge_, gtk | 02:54 |
thoreauputic | knowledge_: both | 02:54 |
wonderland | but you said uncomment it now your saying dont touch it | 02:54 |
bob2 | knowledge_: X just put pixels on the screen, gtk tells x11 to draw buttons and menus and ... | 02:54 |
DAC1138 | you cant have gtk really without x, can you? | 02:54 |
knowledge_ | mannnn I think I'm just going to format and reinstall | 02:54 |
bob2 | wonderland: no, I didn't say that at all | 02:54 |
wonderland | shall i just go back to windows | 02:54 |
DAC1138 | x11 libs | 02:54 |
bob2 | wonderland: just leave it alone | 02:54 |
bob2 | wonderland: if you want to use windows, go for it | 02:54 |
wonderland | no i dont | 02:54 |
DAC1138 | wonderland, if you're not willing to help yourself, yes | 02:54 |
bob2 | DAC1138: you can, it has been ported to run directly on the framebuffer, and it works on windows without X | 02:55 |
wonderland | please | 02:55 |
bob2 | wonderland: you haven't asked a useful question | 02:55 |
DAC1138 | wonderland, we can help, but you need to put fourth some effort and not expect us to baby you through it all | 02:55 |
chaps0063 | wonderland: what are you having trouble with | 02:55 |
nalioth | wonderland: windows has more oppertunitys for hackers, then linux | 02:55 |
HrdwrBoB | wonderland: you might do well to spend some time familiarising yourself with the linux environment | 02:55 |
indentp | cafuego: i may need help configuring the card correctly, everything seems to be fine except no local IP resolved... is this the problem? how can I check to see what is not configured correctly? | 02:55 |
nickrud | heh, it's been so long I don't even recognize realplayer10's config screen :) | 02:55 |
knowledge_ | bob2, or anyone ever deal with wxWidgets? | 02:55 |
DAC1138 | wonderland, help us help you | 02:55 |
wonderland | ok | 02:55 |
bob2 | knowledge_: I used it once from python, I think | 02:55 |
bob2 | I prefered glade | 02:55 |
wonderland | i cannot create anything in /var/www/ | 02:55 |
bob2 | wonderland: yes, indeed | 02:56 |
wonderland | becuase its completely locked | 02:56 |
knowledge_ | I'm trying to install soulseek...I updated like a million and a half packages...and it's still lnot working | 02:56 |
wonderland | so where do i put my php files to access them through a webbrowser | 02:56 |
pax | wonderland: #apache | 02:56 |
HrdwrBoB | wonderland: an easy fix for this is sudo chown youruser /var/www | 02:56 |
knowledge_ | I think I'm going to format and reinstall so I can also get my wifi card back | 02:56 |
bob2 | wonderland: sudo chown $USER /var/www/ | 02:56 |
bob2 | wonderland: but be very careful | 02:56 |
kbrooks | No, knowledge_ | 02:56 |
wonderland | no this is a security risk iv been told | 02:56 |
wonderland | what other ways is there | 02:57 |
funkyHat | i was hesitant to give that advice... | 02:57 |
kbrooks | wonderland, um | 02:57 |
knowledge_ | kbrooks, I've tried what people told me to try, and no dice.... | 02:57 |
funkyHat | create a directory inside /var/www | 02:57 |
DAC1138 | knowledge_, wait, what? | 02:57 |
kbrooks | this is not a "security risk" | 02:57 |
aru | wonderland: I would consider going back to windows if I were you | 02:57 |
funkyHat | call it whatever you want, chown that to $USER:apache | 02:57 |
bob2 | wonderland: how on earth is it a security risk? | 02:57 |
kbrooks | aru! | 02:57 |
chaps0063 | wonderland: are you editing locally or are people other than those on your computer going to access them? | 02:57 |
DAC1138 | knowledge_, try "dhclient eth1" or whatever your wifi card was detected as | 02:57 |
pax | wonderland: your other option is to set a vhost and have rootdir as user dir | 02:57 |
kbrooks | DONT BE SERIOUS | 02:57 |
wonderland | im alone user on the computer | 02:58 |
indentp | iwconfig gives me: wlan0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"homenet" Nickname:"unknown" | 02:58 |
knowledge_ | DAC1138, no such device | 02:58 |
wonderland | this computer is the linux (ubuntu)machine | 02:58 |
DAC1138 | knowledge_, im having problems getting wired ethernet working. ubuntu wants to default to the wifi device that isnt there anymore | 02:58 |
chaps0063 | isn't there a way to not allow anyone else to connect to apache but localhost? | 02:58 |
DAC1138 | knowledge_, so its not even detecting a secondary ethernet device? | 02:58 |
chaps0063 | I'm not sure. | 02:58 |
TheWarMachine | nickrud any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated | 02:58 |
DAC1138 | knowledge_, in ifconfig? | 02:58 |
knowledge_ | I had it working until I patched my kernel | 02:58 |
DAC1138 | knowledge_, ah, yeah, i'd say reinstall | 02:58 |
knowledge_ | and the only reason I patched it was because there was a how to | 02:58 |
indentp | with ndiswrapper? | 02:58 |
wonderland | so now every nows my problem, what can i do apart from changing the permission of var/www/ | 02:58 |
bob2 | wonderland: so, chown it | 02:59 |
chaps0063 | wonderland: who told you its a security risk? | 02:59 |
kbrooks | wtf | 02:59 |
bob2 | wonderland: it is not a security issue | 02:59 |
nickrud | TheWarMachine, my realplayer freezes also, but then, I generally use totem-xine to watch real media. I hadn't noticed, and have no advice at the moment. | 02:59 |
knowledge_ | DAC1138, no hope huh? | 02:59 |
robert_pectol | What's the best way (command) to search for a specific package name for Debian and Debian derived distros? I just moved to Ubuntu after 5+ years on Red Hat/Mandrake and am still trying to "come up to speed" on the subtle differences... | 02:59 |
hondje | but having /dev/shm mounted rw is ... what a world :) | 02:59 |
wonderland | its a thread on ubuntuforums, and anyway why doesnt the guide tell my chown it then | 02:59 |
HrdwrBoB | wonderland: you can use sudo cp like we said | 02:59 |
wonderland | yes | 02:59 |
bob2 | robert_pectol: apt-cache search package | 02:59 |
wonderland | thats a good way | 02:59 |
HrdwrBoB | wonderland: because the guide is on crack | 02:59 |
bob2 | wonderland: because tthe forums are wrong | 03:00 |
TheWarMachine | nickrud, totem doesn't even work | 03:00 |
bob2 | wonderland: and the guide is also wrong | 03:00 |
robert_pectol | bob2: Thanks! | 03:00 |
wonderland | but i want to use gui | 03:00 |
kbrooks | wonderland, dont believe everything you read | 03:00 |
nalioth | robert_pectol: use synaptic | 03:00 |
DAC1138 | knowledge_, probably not. ive been having wifi problems until i tried ubuntu, its the only distro to get my card working out of the box (at all actually) | 03:00 |
wonderland | you lot are talking bullshit | 03:00 |
wonderland | now | 03:00 |
chaps0063 | wonderland: sudo (app you want to use) | 03:00 |
robert_pectol | synaptic? | 03:00 |
knowledge_ | yeah I hear ys | 03:00 |
bob2 | wonderland: please stop it | 03:00 |
bob2 | wonderland: you're being rude, and you're way out of your depth | 03:00 |
kbrooks | wonderland, dont believe everything you read!!!!!!!!!!!! | 03:00 |
wonderland | bob2 your taking the piss | 03:00 |
nalioth | robert_pectol: system > admin > synaptic package mangler | 03:00 |
bob2 | wonderland: the solution to your problem is to chown /var/www | 03:00 |
kbrooks | wonderland, no you are | 03:00 |
HrdwrBoB | wonderland: no he's not | 03:00 |
chaps0063 | wow.. | 03:00 |
wonderland | you dont really talk like that | 03:00 |
indentp | DAC1138: could you help me with getting my card online? | 03:00 |
bob2 | wonderland: do it, or not, but you're wasting everyone's time | 03:01 |
chaps0063 | wonderland: relax. | 03:01 |
hondje | lol | 03:01 |
wonderland | is there any other way then | 03:01 |
chaps0063 | wonderland: what gui-app do you want to use? | 03:01 |
DAC1138 | indentp, i could try, whats the problem? | 03:01 |
HrdwrBoB | wonderland: I assure you that you're surrounded by people who by and large know damn well what they're talking about | 03:01 |
bob2 | wonderland: use chown. | 03:01 |
IIIEars | Hey! if you guys can't get along will we have to seperate you? - ;) | 03:01 |
robert_pectol | nalioth: Cool! I'll try that although I prefer the cli for installing software. Thanks again! | 03:01 |
nickrud | TheWarMachine, I used https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotem to get totem-xine to work right | 03:01 |
knowledge_ | alright...I'm off to reinstall | 03:01 |
knowledge_ | later people | 03:01 |
chaps0063 | IIIEars: lol... wonderland to the corner in the left please... | 03:01 |
wonderland | i want to drag and drop php files on to var/www/ so i can access them through a web browser | 03:01 |
bob2 | wonderland: you can continue to argue with people who know far more about this than you do, but it doesn't change the fact that you're wasting time | 03:01 |
nalioth | robert_pectol: then use "apt-cache search <pkgname-fragment-etc>" | 03:02 |
bob2 | wonderland: sudo chown $USER /var/www/ | 03:02 |
HrdwrBoB | wonderland: so use chown like it has been explained to you many times | 03:02 |
indentp | DAC1138: I am using an MA521 with the rt8180 driver through driverloader and the card is picking up excellent signal strength | 03:02 |
HrdwrBoB | this is *NOT* a security risk | 03:02 |
bob2 | wonderland: if you're going to continue to be disruptive, perhaps it's better if you go | 03:02 |
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hondje | if you have to use a gui to move a couple files, are you sure running a webserver is really a good idea? | 03:02 |
Davey | lmao | 03:02 |
indentp | DAC1138: but still having trouble accessing the internet | 03:02 |
hondje | sounds like a bigger security risk than chown, IMHO | 03:02 |
chaps0063 | hey bob2, I got apache/mysql and all that working as of yester... | 03:02 |
chaps0063 | yesterday...if I could spell. | 03:03 |
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chaps0063 | thanks for your help. | 03:03 |
DAC1138 | indentp, ah, i had that same problem | 03:03 |
wonderland | is there any other way? thats all im asking, like what the guide says, it says create a text file and enter that text the guide provides, thats what i need help on that bit of the guide | 03:03 |
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DAC1138 | indentp, does anything show up in ifconfig? | 03:03 |
wonderland | thats what i originally came for | 03:03 |
pax | bob2: dude you have some patience. kudos | 03:03 |
wonderland | the bit i copied and pasted | 03:03 |
hondje | then do what the guide says | 03:03 |
kbrooks | wonderland, dont read the guide | 03:03 |
hondje | if that's really what you want | 03:03 |
bob2 | wonderland: no, ignore that, it's complicated and pointless | 03:03 |
chaps0063 | wonderland: its been told to you. | 03:03 |
nalioth | wonderland: the ubuntuguide has been known to lead to total reinstallation of system | 03:03 |
indentp | DAC, yes | 03:03 |
bob2 | wonderland: run "sudo chown $USER /var/www/" | 03:03 |
kbrooks | nalioth, how? | 03:03 |
HrdwrBoB | wonderland: running that single command fixes ALL of your problems | 03:03 |
DAC1138 | indentp, what does it say? | 03:03 |
HrdwrBoB | and is trivial to do | 03:04 |
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bob2 | wonderland: whoever told you that adding an Alias was any more secure is an idiot | 03:04 |
kbrooks | nalioth, other than backports | 03:04 |
nalioth | kbrooks: i spoke on this earlier | 03:04 |
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DAC1138 | indentp, you should see something like eth0 for your wired ethernet, and eth1 or wlan0 for wireless | 03:04 |
HrdwrBoB | the ubuntu guide should be a wiki | 03:04 |
wonderland | ok | 03:04 |
Bob_ | hey, a friend of mine setup my wireless card and told me to use ifup and ifdown... I had to restart due to lock up and now there is no card! how do I get it back> | 03:04 |
wonderland | im going to " CHOWN " it | 03:04 |
HrdwrBoB | wonderland: excellenty | 03:04 |
kbrooks | wonderland, changes the owner of the directory | 03:04 |
wonderland | but i bet my computer crashed becuase the amount of hackers trying to access my new linux computer | 03:05 |
nickrud | lol | 03:05 |
bob2 | wonderland: plese stop being an idiot | 03:05 |
DAC1138 | indentp, i had the same problem in other distros. driver was installed, kde applet showed a network and signal strength, yet i couldnt get any information out of the network or internet | 03:05 |
kbrooks | um | 03:05 |
indentp | DAC, Link encap:local loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask 255.0.0.0 inet6 addr ::1/128 Scope:host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 | 03:05 |
bob2 | wonderland: I don't know if you're trolling, or really clueless, but it's just annoying. | 03:05 |
wonderland | what changes the owner of the directory what does that mean | 03:05 |
indentp | iwconfig you mean? | 03:05 |
kbrooks | wonderland, please do not clutter the channel | 03:05 |
kbrooks | wonderland, chown | 03:05 |
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wonderland | kbrooks | 03:05 |
thoreauputic | wonderland: please get a clue from ubotu 's URL below | 03:06 |
funkyHat | wonderland, open a terminal, type "sudo chown *your username* /var/www" | 03:06 |
Bob_ | how do I mount my network card? | 03:06 |
kbrooks | wonderland, currently, you cant write to /var/www | 03:06 |
thoreauputic | !hacker | 03:06 |
ubotu | somebody said hacker was well, a misunderstood term: see http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/H/hacker.html | 03:06 |
wonderland | o is that what it stands for | 03:06 |
kbrooks | wonderland, currently, you cant write to /var/www | 03:06 |
indentp | DAC, under iwconfig i see lo eth0 and wlan0 | 03:06 |
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DAC1138 | indentp, i mean what devices do you see? anything like eth1 or eth0? list all the eth# and wlan# you see | 03:06 |
Bob_ | I already ndiswrappered it--I think... | 03:06 |
wonderland | sorry my user name is chris so how would the command look like | 03:06 |
kbrooks | wonderland, REPLACE | 03:06 |
DAC1138 | indentp, alright, wlan0 is probably it then | 03:06 |
HrdwrBoB | sudo chown chris /var/www | 03:06 |
wonderland | like this "sudo chown $chris /var/www/" | 03:06 |
HrdwrBoB | no, no $ | 03:06 |
indentp | DAC, the correct essid is picked up and everything seems ok | 03:06 |
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kbrooks | no | 03:06 |
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bob2 | the command I actually gave would work | 03:07 |
DAC1138 | indentp, try "dhclient wlan0" | 03:07 |
indentp | DAC, but still can not ping anything | 03:07 |
bob2 | since your shell sets $USER | 03:07 |
pax | wtf everyone in this channel got their troll detector off? | 03:07 |
HrdwrBoB | yeah | 03:07 |
kbrooks | bob2: From what I've read, he is a IDIOT | 03:07 |
DAC1138 | indentp, or "dhclient eth0" | 03:07 |
rebort | hey... i could use some simple breezy help | 03:07 |
wonderland | ok GUYS (is there any girls here by the way) im about to wack on the old CHOWN | 03:07 |
chaps0063 | kbrooks: I concur. | 03:07 |
bob2 | wonderland: enough | 03:07 |
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wonderland | every ones waiting | 03:08 |
indentp | DAC, permision denied, let me try in root | 03:08 |
DAC1138 | about now im thinking linux isnt for you wonderland | 03:08 |
hondje | yeah, he's trolling | 03:08 |
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nickrud | wonderland, if I may, http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html and http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html make good reading | 03:08 |
DAC1138 | ya know, its not for everybody | 03:08 |
wonderland | whats trolling for f sake | 03:08 |
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Bob_ | how do I mount my network card in hoary? | 03:08 |
kbrooks | nickrud, NO!!!!!! | 03:08 |
nickrud | no? | 03:08 |
rebort | it's the /etc/X11/X is not executable issue... i'd rather hear from one reliable source about how to fix that instead of hearing many non-working and unofficial fixes | 03:08 |
carrot | that is old | 03:08 |
wonderland | o sware to god i really do need help | 03:08 |
HrdwrBoB | yes, we know | 03:08 |
kbrooks | nickrud, Do not make him RTFM | 03:08 |
wonderland | ive been on ununtu forums for a day now | 03:08 |
wonderland | check out my post | 03:08 |
rebort | can anyone give me an official answer? | 03:08 |
wonderland | wait let me get the url | 03:09 |
kbrooks | wonderland, the forums are inaccurate | 03:09 |
indentp | DAC you are my savior | 03:09 |
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nickrud | both are dated 2005, I check first | 03:09 |
DAC1138 | indentp, worked? | 03:09 |
kbrooks | wonderland, Honestly. | 03:09 |
wonderland | ok just see what iv learn so far from the forums | 03:09 |
bob2 | rebort: that's a symlink, perhaps it's broken | 03:09 |
indentp | somthing as simple as grabbing an IP address | 03:09 |
kbrooks | wonderland, irrevelant | 03:09 |
nalioth | rebort: breezy is not for everyday use atm | 03:09 |
rebort | bob2: we share a name, and it is broken | 03:09 |
nalioth | rebort: most of us in here do not use it for that reason | 03:09 |
evader | Hi. How can I get Evolution to put a notification in the systray when I get mail PLEASE. | 03:09 |
wonderland | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=259573#post259573 | 03:09 |
DAC1138 | indentp, well, i was frusturating as hell for me, and i still couldnt get mine fixed, and now that ubuntu has it working out of the box, i know what to do | 03:09 |
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rebort | nalioth: i know, i have suffered through much with breezy, and i was hoping to also suffer through this | 03:10 |
bob2 | rebort: it should point at /usr/bin/X or so, I'd assume | 03:10 |
cafuego | indentp: Blah, I told you that 20 minutes ago :-P | 03:10 |
DAC1138 | indentp, i was about to throw my laptop on the wall and slam my head on my desk. glad i could save someone from the same troubles | 03:10 |
bob2 | rebort: surely the answer is in the bts? | 03:10 |
indentp | DAC, so the command dhclient just hits the dhcp server on my router to request an IP address? | 03:10 |
HrdwrBoB | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2004-11-10 09:30 /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/X11/Xorg | 03:10 |
evader | Hi. How can I get Evolution to put a notification in the systray when I get mail .... ANYONE? | 03:10 |
wonderland | o yeah by the way what does this mean "chmod 744" | 03:10 |
bob2 | hm | 03:10 |
DAC1138 | indentp, i guess, i was told to do that to switch to my eth0 wired network | 03:10 |
bob2 | wonderland: ignore it | 03:10 |
cafuego | wonderland: read,write,execute by owner, read-only for anyone else. | 03:11 |
nickrud | kbrooks, that is not rtfm, that is basic research | 03:11 |
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bob2 | wonderland: if you don't understand an answer on the forum, follow up saying you don't understand it | 03:11 |
indentp | DAC, will switching to my eth0 be difficult? | 03:11 |
carrot | just a link.. | 03:11 |
DAC1138 | indentp, because by default, ubuntu wants to use my wireless card for network access, which isnt always in, so i have to run that command everytime i want to use my wired net | 03:11 |
Bob_ | ah ha! I just had to wait a bit | 03:11 |
Bob_ | it works now! | 03:11 |
rebort | there is not a /usr/bin/X11/Xorg, only a [...] /X | 03:11 |
Bob_ | thanks all :-p | 03:11 |
HrdwrBoB | nickrud: even more than that; compulsory background knowledge | 03:11 |
DAC1138 | indentp, no, just run dhclient eth0 to switch back to wired | 03:11 |
kbrooks | nickrud, SO? | 03:11 |
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indentp | DAc, ahhh... i see. I dont have to disable the wlan0? | 03:11 |
HrdwrBoB | rebort: then link it to that | 03:11 |
kbrooks | HrdwrBoB, this is irrevelant | 03:11 |
DAC1138 | indentp, nope | 03:12 |
wonderland | have you had a look | 03:12 |
nickrud | kbrooks, although I do take your point. | 03:12 |
indentp | DAC, sweet. I love it when everything works simultaneaosly | 03:12 |
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kbrooks | nickrud, huh? | 03:12 |
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wonderland | do you bob2 and the others have some kind of blog so i can trust you becuase in common sense, id rather trust the forum then some chat on IRC | 03:12 |
nickrud | kbrooks, about not shoving manuals at people, instead of helping | 03:12 |
DAC1138 | wonderland, you can trust google | 03:12 |
kbrooks | wonderland, listen to me | 03:12 |
bob2 | wonderland: I'd trust IRC ahead of the forums | 03:13 |
kbrooks | wonderland, forums suck. | 03:13 |
kbrooks | End of story. | 03:13 |
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bob2 | and having a blog just proves someone has too much time on their hands ;p | 03:13 |
nalioth | wonderland: perhaps you should have lurked in here for weeks to see the quality of answers that are given | 03:13 |
indentp | DAC, i am running a buggy rt8180 driver that i could only get to work under driverloader (which will cost me $20 after 30 days), do you have any experience with ndiswrapper? | 03:13 |
bob2 | cafuego: well, ok, good point | 03:13 |
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kbrooks | wonderland, you are still a troll. | 03:13 |
wonderland | o well if you decide to hack me | 03:13 |
tritium | bob2, heh, I agree ;) | 03:13 |
pschulz01 | Greetings. Anyone know if 'nvu' is available for Ubuntu? It's on TheOpenCD v3. | 03:13 |
pschulz01 | for windows... | 03:13 |
wonderland | ill just re-install whats the worst that could happen | 03:13 |
kbrooks | wonderland, *crack* | 03:13 |
nalioth | pschulz01: yes, you can d/l it from its homepage | 03:14 |
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wonderland | o shit | 03:14 |
thoreauputic | wonderland: seek help for your paranoia :) | 03:14 |
kbrooks | wonderland, you are a troll and a idiot that is NOT READY FOR LINUX | 03:14 |
evader | How can I get Evolution to put a notification in the systray when I get mail | 03:14 |
pschulz01 | nalioth: no package yet? | 03:14 |
evader | I cant find an applet | 03:14 |
wonderland | what does *crack* mean | 03:14 |
rebort | USR/BIN/X11/X points to /etc/X11/X, so it would be unwise to link | 03:14 |
tritium | evader, I don't believe that capability exists yet | 03:14 |
nalioth | evader: there is NO KNOWN way (that i know of) check the evolution homepage | 03:14 |
cafuego | evader: if evolution has no pref to do that, it probably means it can't (yet) | 03:14 |
indentp | althouh driverloader might be nice to have down the road with other windows based drivers. the the nice web-based GUI as opposed to ndiswrapper | 03:14 |
kbrooks | wonderland, cr`acker | 03:14 |
wonderland | who the fuck ever is, linux is shit man, your all communists, man, im a php coder, whats the point of using linux, | 03:14 |
kbrooks | cracker* | 03:15 |
cafuego | indentp: driverloader is payware though | 03:15 |
tritium | wonderland, please calm down | 03:15 |
wonderland | kbrooks aint helping | 03:15 |
evader | Thanks | 03:15 |
kbrooks | crackers are not hackers and vice versa | 03:15 |
cafuego | indentp: and a GUI only makes it 1) slower and 2) larger | 03:15 |
DAC1138 | indentp, no, ive tried that with my card, i couldnt figure the dang thing out | 03:15 |
wonderland | and what does he even mean, | 03:15 |
DAC1138 | indentp, madwifi you might want to check that out | 03:15 |
indentp | DAC you tried ndiswrapper? | 03:15 |
cafuego | wonderland: Did you actually have an ubuntu question? | 03:15 |
DAC1138 | indentp, no, i havent used ndiswrapper | 03:15 |
rebort | no ideas then? | 03:16 |
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DAC1138 | i think we need to boot wonderland | 03:16 |
DAC1138 | ah, good | 03:16 |
indentp | DAC, what did you try with your card? | 03:16 |
kevin | wheeeeeeeeeew | 03:16 |
DAC1138 | indentp, there were some kernel modules i had to download for my chipset on sourceforge | 03:16 |
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funkyHat | hurrah! | 03:17 |
DAC1138 | indentp, i have an atmel chipset, so there were some 3rd party open source stuff i could download | 03:17 |
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DAC1138 | wow it got quiet since he was booted | 03:17 |
indentp | ha, yeah | 03:17 |
kevin | lol | 03:17 |
nickrud | kbrooks, now that that's over, those two links are really good for new folks. What's a decent way to point at them. | 03:17 |
indentp | the need for "nick: question" format is gone | 03:17 |
kbrooks | nickrud, i dont think so | 03:18 |
kbrooks | not here anyways | 03:18 |
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kbrooks | nickrud, i would never ever .... *EVER* point a newbie to ubuntu at those 2 links. | 03:18 |
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kbrooks | nickrud, why do so when we can ALL help and the wiki exists? | 03:19 |
indentp | DAC, what types of cards use the Atheros chipset? | 03:19 |
MIK3MAN | which is the best kernal to install for ubuntu?? stability wise..?? | 03:19 |
kevin | question, how would I add say a button to xfce for say abiword? | 03:19 |
rebort | linking /etc/X11/X to /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg works | 03:19 |
DAC1138 | indentp, i dont know. isnt atheros supported in the kernel? i was building a kernel todya and thought i saw atheros in there | 03:19 |
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JDahl | MIK3MAN, the one that's installed by default, I think | 03:20 |
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IIIEars | vulnerability discovered in zlib compression | 03:20 |
indentp | DAC, im not sure... im trying to find out if madwifi will work with my card | 03:20 |
DAC1138 | MIK3MAN, i dont think ubuntu takes kindly to new kernels | 03:20 |
rebort | but mouse keyboard and nv modules arent found | 03:20 |
DAC1138 | MIK3MAN, i just built the latest, and i cant get the thing to boot | 03:20 |
thoreauputic | kevin: you can add lauchers to the panel through the config app - I'm in fluxbox and can't recall the exact name but it has a cross shaped icon IIRC | 03:21 |
DAC1138 | indentp, check your manuals or label on the card, it should have the chipset or model # on there | 03:21 |
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TheWarMachine | anyone know how to get sound working in realplayer>? | 03:21 |
wonderland | u rock bob2 | 03:21 |
ablyss | anyone want to see a screenshot of my ubuntu? http://www.epluribusunix.net/screenshots/07-17-05_21:18:48.jpeg :) | 03:21 |
MIK3MAN | JDahl: whats the difference from linux 386 and linux-image 386, and linux image 2.6?? they are all on the install cd | 03:21 |
wonderland | everythings dandy | 03:21 |
indentp | DAC, i think its a realtek, not sure though | 03:21 |
DAC1138 | indentp, google search for the model # and look for the chipset, then search google.com/linux for using that chipset in linux | 03:21 |
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Davey | ablyss: do you have a pr0n background? | 03:21 |
wonderland | although one last proper question | 03:21 |
kevin | hmmmmmmmmmmm ok, thanx anyways, I will wait for someone running xfce | 03:21 |
Davey | ablyss: if not, I don't care :D | 03:22 |
wonderland | why was the var/www/ folder locked in the first place | 03:22 |
HrdwrBoB | MIK3MAN: they are logical packages of the same thing | 03:22 |
JDahl | DAC1138, if you must, you can build a kernel using Ubuntu defaults by copying the /boot/config file to the kernel source tree | 03:22 |
Madpilot | pschulz01: your question sort of got lost. nvu is installable. watch the two posting's ubotu's about to make | 03:22 |
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Madpilot | !nvu | 03:22 |
ubotu | I heard nvu is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallNVUHTMLEditor/ http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring."" | 03:22 |
kevin | not trying tobr rude dude | 03:22 |
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MIK3MAN | HrdwrBoB: which should I choose?? | 03:22 |
Madpilot | !html | 03:22 |
ubotu | [html] HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. HTML editors available in Hoary include Bluefish & Screem, both installable through Synaptic. HTML can also be written in any text editor, as purists will be quick to tell you! | 03:22 |
kbrooks | wonderland, because linux sucks. | 03:22 |
Davey | ablyss: whats the second graph to the right of the CPU one? | 03:22 |
nalioth | wonderland: anything outside of your home directory belongs to someone else, that is why it's "locked" | 03:22 |
ablyss | Davey: CPU and memory | 03:22 |
DAC1138 | JDahl, thats what i did | 03:22 |
HrdwrBoB | MIK3MAN: any of them, they're effectively all the same | 03:22 |
Davey | ah, didn't see that one | 03:22 |
nalioth | pschulz01: i answered your question right after you asked it | 03:22 |
wonderland | so now it belongs to every one now that i changed the previliges to everyone | 03:23 |
HrdwrBoB | MIK3MAN: choose linux-386 | 03:23 |
DAC1138 | JDahl, and basically i only changed the acpi and the processor info, and the partition stuff | 03:23 |
wonderland | now that i chown it | 03:23 |
MIK3MAN | ok | 03:23 |
DAC1138 | JDahl, still wont boot | 03:23 |
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IIIEars | ubotu html is also "!NVU" html editor. | 03:23 |
ubotu | okay, IIIEars | 03:23 |
ablyss | Davey: hehe i dont watch pron :P | 03:23 |
thoreauputic | wonderland: you changed it to belong to your user | 03:23 |
TheWarMachine | ablyss what prog do you use as the dock> | 03:23 |
indentp | DAC, thanks for daving me an increcible headache. now I must decide if I want to buy a new card or purchase driverloader | 03:23 |
indentp | saving* | 03:23 |
wonderland | OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 03:23 |
auk | !html | 03:23 |
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ablyss | TheWarMachine: gnome panel | 03:23 |
wonderland | thoreauputic you are a star | 03:23 |
thoreauputic | wonderland: unless you did something no-one advised | 03:23 |
wonderland | what | 03:23 |
wonderland | sudo chown chris /var/www | 03:24 |
auk | !nvu | 03:24 |
ubotu | hmm... nvu is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallNVUHTMLEditor/ http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring."" | 03:24 |
wonderland | thats what i did | 03:24 |
auk | !Nvu | 03:24 |
ubotu | extra, extra, read all about it, nvu is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallNVUHTMLEditor/ http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring."" | 03:24 |
IIIEars | auk - ubotu is chewing on the database update for html. - it takes a minute or two | 03:24 |
wonderland | does that still mean its safe | 03:24 |
wonderland | and no one of you lot can access it | 03:24 |
kbrooks | wonderland, ummmm | 03:24 |
kbrooks | wonderland, | 03:24 |
wonderland | what kbrooks | 03:24 |
kbrooks | !hack | 03:24 |
ubotu | Wish i knew, kbrooks | 03:24 |
auk | IIIEars: no--he messaged me | 03:24 |
thoreauputic | wonderland: if you run ls -ld /var/www you'll see that it now belongs to chris | 03:24 |
kbrooks | !hacking | 03:24 |
ubotu | kbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? | 03:24 |
nickrud | kbrooks, sorry had to step away for a sec. I don't think most of that is on the wiki, and it's also extremely relevant. | 03:24 |
ablyss | BTW, i took the picture of the lilly from my backyard.. you guys like it? I have about 6 more that make really awesome desktop wall paper | 03:25 |
Madpilot | !hacker | 03:25 |
ubotu | somebody said hacker was well, a misunderstood term: see http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/H/hacker.html | 03:25 |
Madpilot | kbrooks: there you go... | 03:25 |
auk | !cracker | 03:25 |
ubotu | auk: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about | 03:25 |
wonderland | why is kbrooks saying hacks for then | 03:25 |
auk | !cracking | 03:25 |
ubotu | auk: I don't know | 03:25 |
auk | !crack | 03:25 |
ubotu | auk: Are you smoking crack? | 03:25 |
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TheWarMachine | `ablyss tell me how you got/config it | 03:25 |
auk | lol | 03:25 |
kbrooks | wonderland, you misunderstand the term | 03:25 |
Madpilot | wonderland: we're fooling around with ubotu. but ppl should be doing that thru /msg, really | 03:25 |
thoreauputic | auk: ubotu doesn't have a factoid for that yet | 03:25 |
IIIEars | be nice to the bot a slender database is a lot faster. | 03:25 |
TheWarMachine | !insult | 03:25 |
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auk | his factiod now is good enough for me | 03:25 |
aceidia | does anyone know of a good dvd player? | 03:26 |
kbrooks | wonderland, go and read ESR's jargon database entry for hacker' | 03:26 |
DAC1138 | aceidia, ogle | 03:26 |
aceidia | thx | 03:26 |
wonderland | wheres that then | 03:26 |
chaps0063 | aceidia: I like xine-ui | 03:26 |
DAC1138 | aceidia, i suggested a bunch earlier, didnt oyu read? | 03:26 |
tritium | aceidia, gxine is nice too | 03:26 |
aceidia | can i get it off mulitiverse? | 03:26 |
kbrooks | wonderland, at the link the bot posted | 03:26 |
auk | check out the blender package | 03:26 |
wonderland | oh yeah how about phpMyAdmin | 03:26 |
auk | way bloated | 03:26 |
wonderland | how do you install that | 03:26 |
thoreauputic | wonderland: hacker is not a bad word - go read the URL and learn what it means | 03:26 |
ablyss | TheWarMachine: well transparency is optional in the panel preferences.. svg icons are downloadable off synaptic gnome themes... there isn't too much to config about it | 03:26 |
aceidia | i did but some aren;t working.. nad i closed the window | 03:26 |
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wonderland | ok whatevery. but how do you install phpMyAdmin | 03:27 |
auk | wonderland: were you talking to me | 03:27 |
auk | ? | 03:27 |
DAC1138 | aceidia, ah. ogle is in multiverse and so is gxine | 03:27 |
wonderland | anyone | 03:27 |
wonderland | i need help | 03:27 |
kbrooks | wonderland, d/l, untar, cp, config, you're done | 03:27 |
chaps0063 | wonderland: do you have mysql installed? | 03:27 |
bob2 | wonderland: stop being annoying | 03:27 |
bob2 | wonderland: or you will be permanently removed | 03:27 |
wonderland | yes | 03:27 |
bob2 | wonderland: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto | 03:27 |
Madpilot | !lamp | 03:27 |
ubotu | lamp is, like, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary | 03:27 |
DAC1138 | wonderland, you arent the only person in the world you know, other people need help too | 03:27 |
chaps0063 | wonderland: http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/ | 03:27 |
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Madpilot | wonderland: see the link ubotu just posted... | 03:27 |
ablyss | wow this chat is a rocking.. dont bother knocking :D | 03:27 |
signbarn | What's a good p2p application for ubuntu? | 03:27 |
indentp | haha | 03:28 |
useruser | signbarn: mldonkey | 03:28 |
kbrooks | Madpilot, are you the resident ubotu expert? | 03:28 |
kbrooks | ;) | 03:28 |
aceidia | thankxs | 03:28 |
sizzam | i try to start mail-notification from a terminal and nothing happens, it just sits there. what log files can i check to point me in the right direction? | 03:28 |
nalioth | signbarn: depends on how you want to p2p | 03:28 |
auk | ablyss: hahahahahaahahaha... | 03:28 |
kbrooks | signbarn, amule | 03:28 |
thoreauputic | wonderland: do what we all have to do sometimes: use google, read howtos, use http://google.com/linux...... etc etc | 03:28 |
wonderland | thas what i been looking for | 03:28 |
kbrooks | amule > * | 03:28 |
wonderland | that lamp thingy, i been using it on windows | 03:28 |
auk | signbarn: tinyP2P | 03:28 |
auk | heh | 03:28 |
signbarn | well i guess i'm just looking for a "large" user base | 03:28 |
kbrooks | auk: uh....... | 03:28 |
auk | wonderland: wtf? | 03:28 |
Madpilot | kbrooks: no, but I"ve got nothing else to do right now... gotta be fast with the ! key... :) | 03:28 |
nalioth | signbarn: gtk-gnutella | 03:28 |
nalioth | signbarn: bittorrent | 03:29 |
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kbrooks | nalioth, amule ;) | 03:29 |
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signbarn | :-) | 03:29 |
plb | hey guys heres another metacity theme i did..thoughts?> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26574 | 03:29 |
auk | wonderland: linux on windows? | 03:29 |
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kbrooks | auk: no | 03:29 |
Evil | hello all | 03:29 |
thoreauputic | wonderland: erm... the "l" in LAMP stands for what, do you think? | 03:29 |
wonderland | Is there any GIRLS here | 03:29 |
kbrooks | auk, think think | 03:29 |
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DAC1138 | plb, shouldnt you be checking in #metacity? | 03:29 |
bob2 | wonderland: final warning | 03:29 |
DAC1138 | wonderland, yes | 03:29 |
identp | sweet | 03:30 |
plb | DAC1138: i like it here better =P | 03:30 |
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Evil | can someone say me how to fix this bug : "error activating wkb configuration" | 03:30 |
DAC1138 | bob2, hes had enough warnings, i'd say boot him | 03:30 |
wonderland | whos heard of WAMP, its for windows | 03:30 |
wonderland | WAMP 5.4 | 03:30 |
bob2 | wonderland: please stay on-topic | 03:30 |
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auk | pbl: what have you got in the way of gtk+ ? | 03:30 |
kbrooks | wonderland, OT alert | 03:30 |
wonderland | can bob2 stop bosing me about and picking on me | 03:30 |
IIIEars | thorauputic - hehe | 03:30 |
signbarn | pbl: that's a pretty slick theme. i like it | 03:30 |
chaps0063 | wonderland: bye. | 03:30 |
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DAC1138 | to be honest, wonderland is the worst ive seen on any linux irc chat | 03:30 |
nickrud | lol, wonderland bob2 is bos | 03:30 |
bob2 | I'lll un+q when I get to Sydney | 03:30 |
chaps0063 | bob2: when are you going there? | 03:31 |
kbrooks | wonderland, bob2 is boss | 03:31 |
thoreauputic | DAC1138: you're new here, aren't you ? *grin* | 03:31 |
DAC1138 | thoreauputic, not really, ive been here ltos before | 03:31 |
Madpilot | bob2: you're going to Sydney in about ten years, right? :) | 03:31 |
DAC1138 | thoreauputic, ive never really been this active though | 03:31 |
kbrooks | nalioth | 03:31 |
bob2 | chaps0063: about tne minutes ;) | 03:31 |
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kevin | I am going there by the time I die lol | 03:31 |
DAC1138 | thoreauputic, but im saying of all the linux chats ive been in, #linux, #suse, #slackware, #vector, ive been around | 03:31 |
thoreauputic | DAC1138: it was a reference to a well known slashdot meme actually :) | 03:31 |
chaps0063 | bob2: hehe...I'd love to go. | 03:31 |
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auk | pbl: got any GTK+ mac-liek buttons, by any chance? | 03:32 |
kbrooks | and unfair | 03:32 |
chaps0063 | kbrooks: he probably has no clue it even happened. | 03:32 |
kbrooks | chaps0063, so? | 03:32 |
DAC1138 | tritium, yeah, i remember you, you were the one who told me about the linux headers needing to be installed | 03:32 |
plb | auk: no but i can make some | 03:32 |
nalioth | kbrooks | 03:32 |
Madpilot | chaps0063: did wonderland have any clue to begin with? | 03:32 |
tritium | DAC1138, cool :) | 03:32 |
chaps0063 | kbrooks: just pointing it out. | 03:32 |
DAC1138 | tritium, back when i had the kernel compiling problems like im having now | 03:32 |
chaps0063 | Madpilot: this is true. | 03:32 |
tritium | still? | 03:32 |
kbrooks | nalioth: is the +q fair? ;) | 03:33 |
DAC1138 | tritium, by the way, that headers tip was awsome, thanks. saved my butt on many other distros too | 03:33 |
bob2 | kbrooks: yes, irc is kinda inherently undemocratic | 03:33 |
auk | pbl: i'm hacking a gtk/metacity theme to make it more what i want, but all the mac buttons i find are cheesy-looking | 03:33 |
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tritium | DAC1138, of course :) | 03:33 |
bob2 | kbrooks: I try very hard to not remove people just because they annoy me | 03:33 |
IIIEars | Ubuntuans are a considerate bunch. - banning isn't done lightly | 03:33 |
nalioth | kbrooks: bob2 did wonderland a favor. he allowed wonderland to stay to soak up all this wonderful knowledge, w/o disrupting the dispersal of said knowledge | 03:33 |
plb | auk: google os x themes there are a few good sites out there | 03:33 |
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chaps0063 | bob2: from what I witnessed, your patience is great. | 03:33 |
kevin | uh hu | 03:33 |
trinidad | HELP! How do i remove the stipple from detailed list view in konqueror when i browse my folders? | 03:34 |
plb | brb | 03:34 |
nickrud | lol, when I first started following this channel ... | 03:34 |
chaps0063 | bob2: he would've been gone after the first "is there any girls here" for two reason, one for being off topic, two for improper grammar. | 03:34 |
teferi | man, I have had it up to here with not having any kind of new-mail notification from evolution. time to learn how to use dbus and write a notification-area thingy... | 03:34 |
bob2 | trinidad: #kubuntu or #kde might know more, but is there nothing in the options? | 03:34 |
DAC1138 | chaps0063, sexual harassment come in anywhere? | 03:34 |
bob2 | chaps0063: hah | 03:34 |
nalioth | chaps0063: there are many non-native-english speakers in here. | 03:34 |
tritium | teferi, I do believe it's being worked on | 03:34 |
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redtech | I dont want to use gnucash... is there a package for quotations/invoicing ? | 03:35 |
bob2 | teferi: that would be awesome | 03:35 |
teferi | tritium: there was one called em-panel-applet | 03:35 |
teferi | but it didn't get updated after the big dbus api breakage | 03:35 |
chaps0063 | nalioth: understood, but his spelling was bad also....and if english was his second language then I would retract that statement. | 03:35 |
nickrud | teferi, someone mentioned http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=402 , I haven't tried it yet | 03:35 |
tritium | teferi, ah, I see. | 03:35 |
IIIEars | in ubuntu "SWM" is a window manger - lol | 03:35 |
nalioth | chaps0063: i look at attitude over anything else | 03:35 |
teferi | nickrud: i'm skeptical as to how recent that is | 03:36 |
teferi | nickrud: in particular, as of september 29, 2004, the evolution dbus plugin didn't even exisit yet | 03:36 |
chaps0063 | nalioth: well, I guess I judge based on spelling/grammar (at least online, and within emails) to see how the person's attitude might be. | 03:36 |
nickrud | teferi, it uses filters, as I read it, so it's a hack, but it may work for now | 03:37 |
teferi | bob2: i can't imagine it'd be very hard...if there's ruby bindings, i'll hack with that, otherwise i'll brush up on my python | 03:37 |
Will_ | 'is there any girls here', classic. | 03:37 |
trinidad | bob2, nothing I can see | 03:37 |
chaps0063 | nalioth: I guess its because I'm a stickler about spelling, etc. | 03:37 |
teferi | nickrud: but there's no reason to do it that way anymore, now that evolution puts messages on d-bus when mail comes in | 03:37 |
nickrud | teferi, when someone writes it, I'll send a donation. | 03:37 |
auk | !scribus | 03:37 |
ubotu | Bugger all, i dunno, auk | 03:37 |
teferi | nickrud: hey, i'm working on it now :P | 03:37 |
auk | !info scribus | 03:37 |
chaps0063 | bob2: is it possible Channel Topic we could append "is there any girls here"? | 03:37 |
ubotu | scribus: (free software desktop page layout program), section graphics, is optional. Version: 1.2.1-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 4414 kB, Installed size: 13080 kB | 03:37 |
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tritium | teferi, awesome! | 03:38 |
nalioth | nickrud: want my pp info? | 03:38 |
teferi | foo, no dbus ruby bindings | 03:38 |
teferi | time to relearn python :/ | 03:38 |
nickrud | nalioth, sure | 03:38 |
nickrud | whatever pp is ;P | 03:38 |
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IIIEars | SpreadFirefox site was hacked (PHP/Drupal) - wow | 03:38 |
teferi | what do you expect from php? | 03:38 |
nalioth | nickrud: since you're passing out $ | 03:38 |
nickrud | oh, paypal, duh | 03:38 |
nickrud | nalioth, give it to me in person | 03:39 |
julz | Hi. Can Ubuntu run fine on an *External USB Hard Drive* and still use other USB devices easily? | 03:39 |
bob2 | julz: except that your bios probably can't boot it, yes | 03:39 |
auk | IIIEars: yeah, taht's what i thought | 03:39 |
bob2 | chaps0063: hah, the answer is "yes" | 03:39 |
teferi | grr, i saw a dbus tutorial on planet gnome just yesterday | 03:39 |
HrdwrBoB | bob2: most modern bioses can, but .. | 03:40 |
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chaps0063 | bob2: yes! | 03:40 |
HrdwrBoB | I don't know why you would do that | 03:40 |
nickrud | teferi, that is the one thing that I truly want, so I was serious :) | 03:40 |
sizzam | i can't get mail-notification to start, any suggestions on where to start troubleshooting? | 03:40 |
julz | bob2: it can. i just heard that with usb, adding another device can cause the drive to unmount | 03:40 |
auk | bob2: why probably can't boot it? | 03:40 |
teferi | THERE | 03:40 |
teferi | found it... | 03:40 |
teferi | great, now to figure out how to make a notification area icon show up | 03:41 |
auk | most computers can... | 03:41 |
julz | so no usb problems? | 03:41 |
tritium | sizzam, did you go to System->Preferences->Mail Notification and configure it after adding the applet? | 03:41 |
HrdwrBoB | julz: it's just a bad idea in general | 03:41 |
julz | how come? | 03:41 |
auk | julz: is it for a live distro | 03:42 |
auk | ? | 03:42 |
auk | or something? | 03:42 |
HrdwrBoB | because USB is slow and not generally reliable | 03:42 |
bob2 | auk: I guess I'm out of date | 03:42 |
sizzam | tritium: thanks. do you know where the actual file is that holds those settings in case i need to wipe it | 03:42 |
bob2 | julz: I'd be pretty surprised if it managed to unmount / | 03:42 |
bob2 | ?win29 | 03:42 |
auk | linux-live.or | 03:42 |
julz | i would use usb cos my main drive is for windows and i cant change it (families) | 03:42 |
sizzam | tritium: i dont see anything obviously labeled in /home/<user> | 03:42 |
auk | g | 03:42 |
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tritium | sizzam, under ~/.gconf/apps/mail-notification, but I don't think you want to be editing that by hand | 03:43 |
auk | julz: for a desktop distro, you would be much better partitioning | 03:43 |
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sizzam | tritium: thanks again | 03:44 |
tritium | sizzam, no problem | 03:44 |
julz | auk: but it would still work ok on usb | 03:44 |
teferi | geh, that's not good... | 03:44 |
nickrud | teferi, and if I can make a feature request: per folder notification ;) | 03:45 |
teferi | nickrud: doable, but not right now | 03:45 |
nickrud | first things first, I guess | 03:45 |
teferi | yeah | 03:45 |
teferi | the dbus signal says what folder the mail is in, so it's just a matter of parsing | 03:45 |
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JDahl | julz, I tried to boot both Debian and Ubuntu from a USB harddrive about a year ago, but I could never get it to work... Installation went smoothly, but the boot process stopped halfway through | 03:46 |
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nickrud | there was a thing (flink?) that I used for a bit, but was just too darn hard to keep in sync, and was extremely buggy | 03:46 |
IIIEars | Adding Ubuntu to a second spare disk seems to be the way to go as windows will fdisk your ubuntu in a heartbeat with a one of those frequently needed reinstalls. | 03:46 |
DukGalNamu | i got a quick couple of questions, does ubuuntu have good wireless support for laptops? | 03:47 |
julz | JDahl: what do you suggest then? | 03:47 |
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damneinstien | does anyone know if ubuntu has released the new patches for firefox and gaim? | 03:47 |
tritium | damneinstien, not for firefox 1.0.5 | 03:47 |
damneinstien | for gaim? | 03:47 |
tritium | damneinstien, don't believe so | 03:47 |
JDahl | julz, I am suggesting anyway - just saying it didnt work for me - and I put alot of effort | 03:47 |
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teferi | how the hell is dpkg running out of memory?! | 03:48 |
JDahl | into it | 03:48 |
damneinstien | DukGalNamu, great support for laptops. personally running centrino | 03:48 |
tritium | DukGalNamu, it depends on the chipset | 03:48 |
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tritium | DukGalNamu, for example, Airport Extreme on Apple laptops is not supported | 03:48 |
JDahl | julz, erm... I am not suggesting anything | 03:48 |
julz | but how did u solve ur problem? | 03:48 |
JDahl | julz, I didnt | 03:49 |
IIIEars | tritium - no wrappers for aiport extreme? | 03:49 |
DukGalNamu | tritium: but a basic PC laptop should be supported.. | 03:49 |
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IIIEars | eye stile canned spell | 03:49 |
tritium | IIIEars, no | 03:49 |
DukGalNamu | ok then does ubuntu have any remote testing software for systems? | 03:49 |
DukGalNamu | mmmm i love canned spell.... | 03:49 |
tritium | DukGalNamu, in general | 03:49 |
JDahl | julz, at that time there was something wrong the Sarge's stock initrd, I dont know if it's fixed now | 03:49 |
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tritium | bob2, how long will you be down under? | 03:50 |
teferi | noooo, session-saver didn't... | 03:50 |
sizzam | anyone use nzb files for newsgroups? | 03:50 |
DukGalNamu | tell me if that was not clear enough | 03:50 |
julz | JDahl: so it may work? | 03:50 |
JDahl | julz, there's only one way to find out ;) | 03:51 |
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DukGalNamu | ok let me try again, is there any type of remotes system diagnostic tools for ubuntu (for diagnosing computers that i were to connect to the ubuntu machine) | 03:52 |
julz | no way! i just wiped my other hard drive. | 03:52 |
DukGalNamu | julz: was it ext2? | 03:53 |
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tritium | DukGalNamu, you can always setup a ssh server on the ubuntu machine | 03:53 |
julz | windows. i used partition magic to resize the ntfs so i could install linux, now i want an external so i dont destroy it again | 03:54 |
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DukGalNamu | tritium: what i want is to be able to hook the ubuntu machine up to a not to good working machine and diagnose any problems it ay be having... | 03:54 |
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tritium | DukGalNamu, I'm not aware of anything like that | 03:55 |
DukGalNamu | hmm..... | 03:55 |
DukGalNamu | sad | 03:55 |
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DukGalNamu | tritium: but i could use it to diagnose a problem with a network right? | 03:56 |
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tritium | DukGalNamu, yes | 03:56 |
DukGalNamu | tritium: at least i could do that much :P | 03:56 |
DukGalNamu | tritium: do you know of any other utalitarian uses of an ubuntu laptop? | 03:57 |
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tritium | DukGalNamu, I could hardly enumerate them all ;) | 03:57 |
nalioth | DukGalNamu: use the LiveCD | 03:57 |
levander | Anybody has a link to that wiki where they're talking about what they're going to do in Ubuntu for Breezy? I'm working on a backup strategy and think I remember them standardizing on a backup tool for Breezy in there. | 03:57 |
MIK3MAN | I just installed ubuntu and my X will not start up... can someone try and help me here | 03:58 |
MIK3MAN | I am going to reboot | 03:58 |
nalioth | MIK3MAN: no need to reboot | 03:58 |
DukGalNamu | nalioth: but that doesn't accomplish what i need, and that is a complete, standalone point where i can access anything i need about another computer | 03:58 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, which video chipset? | 03:58 |
MIK3MAN | ati rage pro | 03:59 |
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nalioth | DukGalNamu: what OS is on the other computer? | 03:59 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, did you follow http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto ? | 03:59 |
DukGalNamu | MIK3MAN: make sure your mouse is plugged in and that you plugged both your mouse and keyboard in BEFORE you started up | 03:59 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: not yet, but I will | 03:59 |
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DukGalNamu | nalioth: most likely it will be a winbloze | 03:59 |
chaps0063 | what is a good application to remote desktop to windows machines besides rdesktop? | 03:59 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, I'm not sure you want to. I don't know if Rage Pro is supported with fglrx. That's why I'm asking. | 04:00 |
kjon | I need help compiling gnomebaker 0.4. Anybody can help me??? | 04:00 |
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nalioth | DukGalNamu: so what do you want to know about the 'not-so-good" system? | 04:00 |
thoreauputic | kjon: gnomebaker is in ubuntu | 04:00 |
thoreauputic | kjon: you don't need to compile it | 04:00 |
kjon | thoreauputic: Have you seen the features of gnomebaker 0.4??? | 04:00 |
bimberi | chaps0063: vnc | 04:00 |
nalioth | tritium: the VESA driver will operate his video successfully | 04:00 |
tritium | nalioth, thank you... | 04:01 |
DukGalNamu | nalioth: basically, check hard drive, irg problems, mobo problems, etc | 04:01 |
DukGalNamu | nalioth: *irq | 04:01 |
thoreauputic | kjon: ah my bad - I didn't read the version number, sorry | 04:01 |
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nalioth | DukGalNamu: the LiveCd will do that, as will the new knoppix | 04:01 |
nickrud | levander, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BreezyGoals | 04:01 |
teferi | yay, completely undocumented stuff... | 04:01 |
chaps0063 | bimberi: vncserver or xvncviewer | 04:01 |
flodine | can someone tell me way i cant use gaim 1.4 | 04:01 |
DukGalNamu | nalioth: but i can't do it from another computer remotly? | 04:01 |
teferi | the state of the gnome docs is a tragedy | 04:01 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: hmmm, another problem wiki points me to apt-get, but I have to configure my wireless still... grrrr | 04:01 |
levander | nickrud: thanks | 04:02 |
kjon | gnomebaker is quite cool. But, the "./configure" shows me an error about a "vorbisfile.pc" file... | 04:02 |
bimberi | chaps0063: vncserver on the m/c you want to control, viewer on the controlling m/c | 04:02 |
kjon | I heard that those files are related to pkg-config. But, I don't know how to get that damned file. | 04:02 |
nickrud | google to the rescue :) | 04:02 |
nalioth | DukGalNamu: windows is not a "network operating system" for one, and two if it's not working well, adding extra connectivity features to it isnt gonna help | 04:02 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, please don't follow that wiki page. Rage Pro is not supported by fglrx. nalioth pointed out that you likely want the VESA driver | 04:02 |
teferi | i've been googling for half an hour now | 04:02 |
thoreauputic | !find vorbisfile.pc | 04:02 |
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teferi | i may just have to dig through the source, which we all know is the /best/ way of learning a new language and new api | 04:03 |
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nickrud | ah, but I knew it existed :) | 04:03 |
ubotu | Ubuntu Search of 'vorbisfile.pc' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/pkgconfig/vorbisfile.pc) in libdevel/libvorbis-dev. | 04:03 |
DukGalNamu | nalioth: what about remote burn in? | 04:03 |
kjon | thoreauputic: Didn't work. Even if I tried to install some vorbis-devel packages... | 04:03 |
nalioth | DukGalNamu: you need "the ultimate boot cd" it has burnin capability | 04:03 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: ok, so just get the proper driver?? I dont understand why this happened, I used the live cd for 2 days and it detected the proper driver | 04:03 |
tritium | kjon, you installed libvorbis-dev? | 04:03 |
thoreauputic | kjon: I think ubotu just gave ab abswer though... | 04:04 |
sizzam | grrrrrr, i can't get firefox to start | 04:04 |
redtech | anyone know of a simple,small quotation/invoice program? | 04:04 |
kjon | I tried with apt, but I couldn't find anything... | 04:04 |
thoreauputic | *an answer | 04:04 |
DukGalNamu | nalioth: so ultimate boot cd and new knoppix... | 04:04 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, the installer should have. Can we please see your /etc/X11/xorg.conf? Please paste it on pastebin | 04:04 |
MIK3MAN | rage pro is very popular chipset | 04:04 |
sizzam | i see 'starting firefox' in my window list, and then it disappears | 04:04 |
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DukGalNamu | nalioth: what if i am faced with a client... with no cd or disk access..? | 04:04 |
kjon | So? what should I do? make a few prays and give my life to apt? | 04:04 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: I am on a separate machine, winblows xp | 04:04 |
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snackalot | Anbody know y package manager wont open when i have wine running | 04:04 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, okay | 04:05 |
IIIEars | there is a "Free iso burner powertoy" available for windows written by alex feinmann | 04:05 |
teferi | eternal love to someone who can help me figure out how to do a notification area icon in python... | 04:05 |
thoreauputic | kjon: install libvorbis-dev ? | 04:05 |
DukGalNamu | or a bootleg alcohol | 04:05 |
nalioth | DukGalNamu: go and check out the featureset on "tubcd" and you may not need knoppix or ubuntu-live | 04:05 |
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DukGalNamu | nalioth: tubcd.... | 04:06 |
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IIIEars | alcohol 120% is terrific | 04:06 |
caonex | what are you suppose to do when hal is not running? How can one restart it? | 04:06 |
nalioth | DukGalNamu: The Ultimate Boot CD | 04:06 |
nalioth | DukGalNamu: typing out the same thing all the time leads to stress | 04:06 |
nickrud | 120% O-0 | 04:06 |
DukGalNamu | nalioth: hehe, i see... | 04:06 |
enum | hi.. I jjust completed an install of ubuntu, and xmms will "play" with alsa enabled, but no sound.. I get system sounds, and such.. Any ideas? | 04:07 |
IIIEars | Faxes nalioth two aspirin and a cold pepsi | 04:07 |
kjon | Reading package lists... Done | 04:07 |
kjon | Building dependency tree... Done | 04:07 |
kjon | E: Couldn't find package libvorbis-dev | 04:07 |
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nickrud | enum, you need to set xmms to use esd | 04:07 |
DukGalNamu | enum: turn up the volume? | 04:07 |
enum | nickrud, why ESD? | 04:07 |
cwillu | if I say uqm, does anybody here know what I'm talking about? | 04:07 |
nalioth | MIK3MAN: on your video, log in and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and when you get to the driver section, choose VESA (make sure you choose the rez options you want, also) | 04:07 |
bob2 | tritium: hah, I live here | 04:07 |
damneinstien | enum, thats a problem with ubuntu not accepting sounds from more than 1 source | 04:08 |
tritium | bob2, oh, didn't realize that. Sorry :) | 04:08 |
nickrud | enum, that's the sound server for gnome, and see damneinstien | 04:08 |
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gyaresu_ | bob2, what time zone are you in? | 04:08 |
kjon | damneinstien: I had the same trouble! - I fixed installing the alsa libraries! | 04:08 |
enum | hmm.. changed it in xmms, and still no sound | 04:08 |
MIK3MAN | nalioth: thanks, gimme a min | 04:08 |
bob2 | gyaresu_: +10 | 04:09 |
kjon | enum: With the multimedia selector, pick alsa instead osd! | 04:09 |
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damneinstien | i followed a guide on ubuntuforums | 04:09 |
damneinstien | im trying to find it for enum | 04:09 |
nickrud | !sound | 04:09 |
ubotu | well, sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 | 04:09 |
cwillu | suppose I'm safe bringing libc6 up to 2.3.2.ds1-21 from 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu? | 04:09 |
gyaresu_ | bob2, same. figures. | 04:09 |
kjon | !libvorbis-dev | 04:09 |
ubotu | kjon: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? | 04:09 |
kevin | now I remember why I quit using windblows, it eats the CPU baddddddddddd | 04:09 |
snackalot | i cant get xmm to work at all thought i had all drivers in but dont no | 04:09 |
nickrud | !sound | 04:09 |
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damneinstien | enum try: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 | 04:09 |
kjon | !libvorbis | 04:10 |
ubotu | I don't know, kjon | 04:10 |
nalioth | kjon: you want !info libvorbis-dev | 04:10 |
snackalot | yes | 04:10 |
chaps0063 | bimberi: so I have xvncviewer installed but I can't get to my windows desktop. | 04:10 |
cwillu | anybody? | 04:10 |
snackalot | thanks | 04:10 |
kjon | T-T I can't compile gnomebaker T-T :'( | 04:10 |
cwillu | chaps0063: you have a vnc server running on your windows machine? | 04:10 |
nalioth | cwillu: i'd leave it alone. libc6 runs your box | 04:10 |
Steve0 | Does anyone know how to keep movies' audio/video in sync in various Linux players? I'm trying to play a series of movies that play fine in Windows. | 04:10 |
kjon | where is that damed libvorbis-devel (or dev) --- I can't find it anywhere! | 04:10 |
nalioth | cwillu: and changing anything about it could kill the box | 04:10 |
nickrud | kjon, good advice, if his card can do hardware mixing of multiple sound streams | 04:10 |
cwillu | and my box does nothing importatn | 04:10 |
chaps0063 | cwillu: no, thats why I figured it wouldn't work...I was hoping to just use remote desktop. | 04:10 |
snackalot | use search | 04:11 |
bimberi | chaps0063: Hm - I may have misunderstood your Q - you will need to install vncserver on the remote m/c | 04:11 |
cwillu | chaps0063: download ultravnc for the windows box | 04:11 |
tritium | kjon, main repo | 04:11 |
cwillu | then you should be able to connect just fine | 04:11 |
chaps0063 | bimberi: ok...np | 04:11 |
flodine | can i upgrade my gaim 1.4 | 04:11 |
chaps0063 | cwillu: well not every machine I am going to use I have vnc installed on. | 04:11 |
damneinstien | anyone know about directx 9.0 w/wine? | 04:11 |
bimberi | chaps0063: apologies :) | 04:11 |
kjon | ok, I'll try that... t-T | 04:11 |
sizzam | i can't get firefox to start for my account. it works for a different account on this machine. ive killed my .mozilla folder, still wont start, any suggestions? | 04:11 |
cwillu | chaps0063: what's the context? | 04:11 |
flodine | hello help | 04:11 |
gyaresu_ | Steve0, i found the same prob last night. | 04:11 |
cwillu | i.e., I've got a script to remote install vnc if you have admin | 04:12 |
kjon | !info libvorbis-dev | 04:12 |
chaps0063 | cwillu: the network admin won't like that. | 04:12 |
ubotu | libvorbis-dev: (The Vorbis General Audio Compression Codec (development files)), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 446 kB, Installed size: 1996 kB | 04:12 |
gyaresu_ | Steve0, no solution though. | 04:12 |
cwillu | if it's 2k+, you can just use remote desktop | 04:12 |
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snackalot | can someone tell me how to install bin. file | 04:12 |
chaps0063 | cwillu: I can do that, but I was hoping for something with an interface similar to windows' remote desktop app | 04:12 |
Zerboxx | how well does partitioning work within ubuntu? I currently have a dual boot system, and I want to move files from my windows partition to ubuntu's and then remove windows. How well will this all work out? | 04:13 |
kevin | I use it all of the time at work (RDP) that is | 04:13 |
cwillu | ... | 04:13 |
tritium | snackalot, what is it, if I may ask? | 04:13 |
damneinstien | zerboxx, mount ur ntfs partition and copy files over | 04:13 |
cwillu | interet | terminal server client is what you're looking for I think | 04:13 |
chaps0063 | cwillu: never mind, its terminal server client. | 04:13 |
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cwillu | :p | 04:13 |
chaps0063 | cwillu: lol. | 04:13 |
Zerboxx | damneinstien: alright, and after they're all on the ubuntu partition? | 04:13 |
DukGalNamu | nalioth: hmm, you are right, thats cool... | 04:14 |
snackalot | well i would like to install bin files and tar and dnh | 04:14 |
damneinstien | then format the windows partition | 04:14 |
caonex | i am running ubuntu but when i log in to gnome, my desktop is basically empty. It only has the two bars, empty, and a empty background as well. | 04:14 |
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Zerboxx | damneinstien: and when that is combined to my current linux partition it will all work nicely? | 04:14 |
levander | okay, not much on the breezy wiki about backing up, it's going to be a Windows System Restore thing. Anybody with recommendations on how to backup serveral directories on my Ubuntu box? What utilities to use? I want to backup to DVD-RW | 04:14 |
caonex | I read in the xsessionerrors that it has to do with hal and gnome=device-manager | 04:14 |
caonex | any ideas? | 04:14 |
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kevin | ok, later all it is time for my shower and maybe some sleep will worklol | 04:14 |
cwillu | sleep's overrated | 04:15 |
Burgundavia | levander, there is a guide here --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BackupYourSystem | 04:15 |
enum | hmm.. tried the multimedia selector.. maybe I am doing something wrong | 04:15 |
Burgundavia | levander, but be caeeful with it | 04:15 |
swos | Hi, I have a quick question regarding APT. Any takers? | 04:15 |
damneinstien | zerboxx: I never did that : (.. all i did was create another ext3 and had another partition running besides / | 04:15 |
cwillu | shoot | 04:15 |
nickrud | swos, sure, I'll bite | 04:15 |
chaps0063 | cwillu: that is what I was looking for...thanks for the help.. | 04:15 |
cwillu | np | 04:15 |
chaps0063 | cwillu: I'm getting closer and closer to dropping windows.. | 04:15 |
cwillu | heh | 04:15 |
cwillu | I know the feeling | 04:15 |
chaps0063 | if I can get the tablet to work on this laptop, its gone. | 04:15 |
kevogod | I dropped Windows awhile ago. No looking back. | 04:16 |
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axis | hoy | 04:16 |
cwillu | hoy hoy | 04:16 |
MIK3MAN | nalioth: I tried that command you gave me a few times, I keep getting "conflicting actions --control and --remove" | 04:16 |
kevogod | Although I am not using Ubuntu... heh | 04:16 |
chaps0063 | kevogod: I have a tablet pc, the tablet doesnt work so I still like that.. | 04:16 |
snackalot | how to install real player | 04:16 |
swos | I've just upgraded my system from woody. My sources.list file was overwritten with the default Ubuntu sources.list (I assume this is what happened). If I attempt to uncomment any of the lines with remote servers and run apt-get update, I receive an error stating that the connection was refused. Any ideas what could be causing this? | 04:16 |
nickrud | snackalot, advice here will depend on what you're installing | 04:16 |
axis | what different kernels are there for amd64 | 04:16 |
levander | Burgundavia: they recommend using tar to back everything up, I was thinking of doing incremental backups | 04:16 |
nalioth | tritium: have you seen MIK3MAN's errors with dpkg? | 04:16 |
axis | i can't find anything on ubuntulinux.org about it | 04:16 |
swos | (Upgraded to hoary.) | 04:16 |
tritium | nalioth, no, let me scroll up...thanks | 04:16 |
nickrud | swos, I have bitten more thain I can chew, wood->hoary is very hoary :) | 04:17 |
cwillu | swos, you still have network on that machine? | 04:17 |
axis | i'm running amd64-generic, but i think there's a kernel for the k8 | 04:17 |
swos | nickrud: hehe, gotcha. | 04:17 |
swos | cwells: Indeed. | 04:17 |
Burgundavia | levander, a simple backup solution is coming | 04:17 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, what command did you run? | 04:17 |
snackalot | settrack-3.1.5.tar.gz and y dos it matter dont u do it the same every time??? | 04:17 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: I can go into the x11 directory and manually edit, if you help | 04:17 |
Burgundavia | levander, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleBackupSolution | 04:17 |
MIK3MAN | :O) | 04:17 |
kevogod | chaps0063: What Tablet PC do you have? | 04:17 |
cwillu | first things first, can you ping those hosts? | 04:17 |
swos | cwells: I thought the list of servres may have changed, so I attempted to hunt those down. No dice. | 04:17 |
chaps0063 | kevogod: Fujitsu Lifebook T4010D | 04:17 |
nickrud | !info settrack | 04:17 |
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chaps0063 | kevogod: its sweet. | 04:18 |
MIK3MAN | sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 04:18 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, trying to. what were you doing with dpkg? | 04:18 |
levander | Burgundavia: yeah, i just read about that, but not until breezy. And, it's just a bounty task. Who knows if the random guy will come through for the bounty. | 04:18 |
swos | cwells: Just a sec. | 04:18 |
Burgundavia | levander, he is being paid 4500 USD by google to do it | 04:18 |
MIK3MAN | trying to set the normal vesa driver | 04:18 |
swos | cwells: Yes, I can. | 04:18 |
chaps0063 | kevogod: tablet, modem (read that most fujitsu modems don't work), and brightness control don't work. | 04:18 |
kevogod | chaps006: What kind of problems are you running into? | 04:18 |
MIK3MAN | so I can get in x | 04:18 |
kjon | I tried to look for libvorbis-devel with synaptic. The most similar match was "libvorbis0" (or something like that), but I couldn't find anything related to "libvorbis-devel" (even with the information of the bot). What can I do? | 04:18 |
chaps0063 | kevogod: the simple fact I have no clue how to get it to work. :-) | 04:18 |
kevogod | (answered I see) | 04:18 |
cwillu | can you paste in one of the repo lines? | 04:18 |
levander | Burgundavia: $4500?? It's going to take only three weeks to do it? $4500 isn't much. | 04:19 |
cwillu | I'll double check it on my machine | 04:19 |
kevogod | So it boots all up and everything, just those won't work? | 04:19 |
Burgundavia | levander, is part of google Summer of Code | 04:19 |
chaps0063 | kevogod: oh yes, it works great but those things. | 04:19 |
enum | ugh | 04:19 |
levander | Burgundavia: what does that mean, that it's being done by a college student? | 04:19 |
tritium | kjon, make sure you have a proper /etc/apt/sources.list, and that you've clicked "Reload" to start | 04:19 |
Burgundavia | levander, yes | 04:19 |
nalioth | tritium: MIK3MAN is trying to reconfigure xserver to VESA | 04:19 |
levander | Burgundavia: Summer of Code doesn't sound like a promise that it'll be done. | 04:19 |
Burgundavia | levander, no, but it is likely | 04:20 |
Burgundavia | 4500 is a lot of money | 04:20 |
tritium | nalioth, yeah. I've not seen that error before... | 04:20 |
kevogod | chaps0063: Have you tried http://linmodems.org/? | 04:20 |
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chaps0063 | kevogod: not really, the modem isn't high on my priority list of things to get to work | 04:20 |
chaps0063 | kevogod: but I will check it out. | 04:20 |
kjon | tritium: I added to my repositories' list all the ubuntu 5.04 related servers.... | 04:20 |
enum | got it | 04:20 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, did you just install? did it complete? | 04:20 |
nalioth | MIK3MAN: did you do a server install, by chance? | 04:20 |
levander | $4500? $60K/year is very cheap for a programmer in the US for a programmer. And, $4500 isn't even one month if you make $60K/year | 04:20 |
swos | cwillu: I feel rather silly now.. it's working. | 04:20 |
tritium | kjon, did you update the list of packages? | 04:21 |
cwillu | heh :) | 04:21 |
swos | cwillu: For whatever reason. | 04:21 |
cwillu | no problem :p | 04:21 |
chaps0063 | kevogod: I want the tablet to work but I just don't know how to go about it. | 04:21 |
chaps0063 | kevogod: like who to talk to, etc. | 04:21 |
swos | Thanks, though ;) | 04:21 |
teferi | #!%#!%ing lack of docs | 04:21 |
kjon | tritium: Yes, I did. I do that three times a week. | 04:21 |
cwillu | any time :) | 04:21 |
swos | I'll probably hang out in here for a while. I'm sure I'm bound to find some other snags. | 04:21 |
levander | Anybody know of a solution to do incremental backups to a DVD-RW? | 04:21 |
tritium | teferi, for which package? | 04:21 |
teferi | tritium: python-gnome2-extras{-dev} | 04:21 |
chaps0063 | swos: I hang out here so that when I break something, I don't have to run that far. | 04:21 |
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tritium | teferi, nothing good under /usr/share/doc ? | 04:22 |
teferi | tritium: i've been using debian and derivatives for seven years now, that's the second place i check... | 04:22 |
tritium | ;) | 04:22 |
MIK3MAN | nalioth: I did a normal install | 04:22 |
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tritium | MIK3MAN, did it complete succesfully? | 04:22 |
teferi | anyway, I have the FFI defs right here | 04:22 |
teferi | which you'd think would be helpful | 04:22 |
swos | chaps0063: Yeah. After documentation fails, it's certainly nice to have live help. | 04:22 |
teferi | but aren't | 04:22 |
chaps0063 | swos: documentation ? ;-) | 04:22 |
bojangles | does anybody know where the #tex channel is. | 04:23 |
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tritium | we don't need no stinkin documentation | 04:23 |
chaps0063 | swos: to me. documentation = #ubuntu | 04:23 |
chaps0063 | lol. | 04:23 |
swos | lol | 04:23 |
snackalot | how can i installrealplayer | 04:23 |
swos | I like to refer to the docs before I come in here and make an ass of myself is all ;) | 04:23 |
tritium | bojangles, what's your tex question? | 04:23 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: I did get one error that said it was unsuccessful, then it brought me to the main menu and I chose base install I think it was called | 04:23 |
tritium | swos, that's a good policy. I was merely joking | 04:23 |
teferi | wonder if there's a pygtk irc channel, hm. | 04:23 |
teferi | yep. | 04:24 |
swos | tritium: heh, yes, I know. | 04:24 |
teferi | i'll go give *them* a piece of my mind | 04:24 |
chaps0063 | snackalot: sudo apt-get install realplayer | 04:24 |
bojangles | tritium, well i am trying to figure out what directory is the tex-input directory for the files srctlx.sty and srctex.sty | 04:24 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, do you recall the error? | 04:24 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: the base install completed ok and it then installed the grub ok | 04:24 |
chaps0063 | snackalot: but make sure you visit http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories and add then. | 04:24 |
snackalot | thank you verry mutch!!!!!!!!!!!! | 04:24 |
Burgundavia | chaps0063, please don't recommend ubuntuguide.org | 04:24 |
chaps0063 | Burgundavia: why? | 04:24 |
Ubuntuguide | rock! | 04:24 |
Ubuntuguide | is best ! | 04:25 |
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Burgundavia | chaps0063, some incorrect info with no explanations | 04:25 |
Burgundavia | chaps0063, the wiki is better | 04:25 |
tritium | bojangles, where they installed from a particular package? | 04:25 |
bojangles | tritium, do you have any idea what directory to place those files in. | 04:25 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: said something like not being able to completely install all the packages,"maybe a bad cd" is what it said | 04:25 |
chaps0063 | snackalot: never mind ubuntuguide.. | 04:25 |
bojangles | tritium, no...kile installation is still bad...so i had to go get the files but where to put them? | 04:25 |
gyaresu_ | Burgundavia, chaps0063 the wiki is incomplete. more of US need to be adding to the wiki. | 04:25 |
ukato | i'm having some trouble getting my wireless card to work. my computer can see my card, but i don't have access to my network or the internet | 04:25 |
ukato | any ideas | 04:25 |
damneinstien | what card ukato? | 04:26 |
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MIK3MAN | tritium: I figured it was my wireless network | 04:26 |
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ukato | something by airlink101 | 04:26 |
tritium | bojangles, for system-wide, you can use /usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex | 04:26 |
bojangles | tritium, i found the files inside kdvi...but i am not sure where to put them so tex will know they are available | 04:26 |
ukato | model is AWLH4030 | 04:26 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: it gave me the option to hit enter to continue | 04:26 |
bojangles | tritium, that will be fine...let me try that | 04:26 |
tritium | bojangles, for just your user, under ~/texmf/tex/latex | 04:26 |
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damneinstien | ukato: never worked w/airlink.. | 04:26 |
jasoncohen | does anyone else notice that gnome-system-monitor in Hoary loses its settings each time the program is restarted? I removed a few process columns and enabled a few, and after restarting the program, the settings had reverted back to default. | 04:26 |
tritium | bojangles, don't forget to run texhash after you install them | 04:27 |
jasoncohen | are you guys seeing the same issue? | 04:27 |
ukato | damn | 04:27 |
light_punch2 | does *.deb packages works with ubuntu? | 04:27 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, that does not sound good | 04:27 |
damneinstien | light_punch2: yes | 04:27 |
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jasoncohen | i created a new bug report because there wasn't one for this issue | 04:27 |
nalioth | light_punch2: its not advised to use non official debs in ubuntu | 04:27 |
tritium | light_punch2, yes, that's wht ubuntu uses, but you shouldn't mix .debs from various distributions. You should use ubuntu .debs | 04:27 |
gyaresu_ | light_punch2, damneinstien : they just may break things... | 04:27 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, I just noticed your bug. The breezy version will not save across sessions | 04:28 |
axis | ANY confirmed SATA installs with 32bit i/o | 04:28 |
MIK3MAN | yeah I know, I think I'm gonna look for a diff distro, I was running ok with Mepis and fluxblox, but I thought I would give ubuntu a shot | 04:28 |
light_punch2 | ok, cause i have a few debian ISOs / cdRs here. | 04:28 |
snackalot | hay chaps thanks that helped alot it realey helps to know were to go for info | 04:28 |
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chaps0063 | snackalot: np. | 04:28 |
MIK3MAN | what do you guys think of xfce?? I never tried it | 04:29 |
axis | ANY confirmed SATA installs with 32bit i/o | 04:29 |
axis | ANY confirmed SATA installs with 32bit i/o | 04:29 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, if you change the settings, close the program and restart it in the same session, do the settings remain or are they reverted back to default? | 04:29 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, it's probably a bad burn. Make sur ethe CD image you have is good | 04:29 |
axis | xfce is lame | 04:29 |
axis | so bare | 04:29 |
chaps0063 | !repeating | 04:29 |
ubotu | No idea, chaps0063 | 04:29 |
teferi | ah, god bless irc | 04:29 |
axis | too bare | 04:29 |
teferi | found sample code | 04:29 |
axis | i feel naked with xcfe | 04:29 |
chaps0063 | !repeat | 04:29 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, the changes remain within one sessin | 04:29 |
jasoncohen | MIK3MAN, you should verify the MD5 sum before burning | 04:29 |
tritium | axis, please don't repeat | 04:29 |
ubotu | chaps0063: Are you smoking crack? | 04:29 |
kahles1 | some people like bare wms :) | 04:29 |
light_punch2 | the archive utility mount the ISOs fine, considering that, it's from an external harddrive formatted as NTFS. | 04:29 |
kahles1 | im using fluxbox here | 04:29 |
Madpilot | axis: stop repeating yourself, pls. but yes, I'm on a SATA HDD right now... | 04:29 |
gyaresu_ | axis, hdparm doesn't seem to give clear info back but i get constant ~50-66MB/sec | 04:29 |
axis | ha gah | 04:29 |
MIK3MAN | does that mean I have to redownload the image?? or just reburn?? | 04:29 |
light_punch2 | MIK3MAN, download a live cd with xfce on it. | 04:30 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, first check its md5sum | 04:30 |
axis | Madpilot: i'm on a msi k8t neo2 plat. running 1 maxtor 16mb cache 250gig SATA . it installs great, dma enables, 32 bit io .. nope | 04:30 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: I know K3B auto does that, but what about windows? | 04:30 |
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tritium | MIK3MAN, I don't use windows, and can't say. | 04:30 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, ok, well i did a bug report. we'll see if anything happens. does ubuntu have enough developers to go through all the bug reports- especially on packages in universe? Each debian package has its own maintainer, and I almost always get some response/fix when i report bugs on debian packages. | 04:30 |
MIK3MAN | lol | 04:30 |
axis | my hdparm is hdparm -d1 -c3 -a64 -X66 -k1 /dev/sda | 04:30 |
gyaresu_ | axis, md5sum.exe for windows (google) | 04:31 |
nalioth | MIK3MAN: there is a livecd with xfce for its UI | 04:31 |
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jasoncohen | i actualy just received an email saying that a minor bug i reported on debian's openvpn package has been fixed | 04:31 |
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gyaresu_ | axis, sorry. not you. | 04:31 |
MIK3MAN | light_punch2: I used the live cd for ubuntu and liked it... look where I am now... I cant get into X | 04:31 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, basically these kinds of bugs get filed upstream with gnome directly | 04:31 |
axis | hehe ok.. i was confused hehe | 04:31 |
gyaresu_ | MIK3MAN, md5sum.exe for windows (google) | 04:31 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, and then when gnome fixes it, it gets fixed in Ubuntu | 04:31 |
axis | Madpilot: Do you have 32bit i/o enabled on your SATA ?? | 04:32 |
MIK3MAN | gyaresu_: thanks, I'll check the image | 04:32 |
axis | Madpilot: and if so, how did you manager | 04:32 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, that is very rare. Something is likely wrong with your media. ubuntu would not top distrowatch if it failed like that very often | 04:32 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, but little things like this are only fixed between distribution releases, right? | 04:32 |
Madpilot | axis: haven't a clue. WTH is 32bit i/o? the damn thing works, that's all I care about... | 04:32 |
jasoncohen | hoary-updates are only used for major bug fixes, correct? | 04:32 |
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kevogod | Security | 04:33 |
nalioth | MIK3MAN: have you run apt-get since you installed? | 04:33 |
gyaresu_ | Maddy, hdparm | 04:33 |
axis | Madpilot, : Your hard disk is running at half speed. drop to root console and type "hdparm /dev/sda" | 04:33 |
jasoncohen | kevogod, yeah- i was referring to bug fixes- not security fixes | 04:33 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, gnome is going to release 2.12, so I doubt any fixes will make it and therefor breezy. And you are correct about hoary-upgrades | 04:33 |
MIK3MAN | nalioth: I have wireless, has to be configured | 04:33 |
axis | and it will say HD_GET ERROR - 32bit i/o not enabled, defaulting to 16bit | 04:33 |
MIK3MAN | brb, gonna test the image | 04:33 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, when is 2.12 supposed to get released? | 04:33 |
nalioth | MIK3MAN: no ethernet port on your box? | 04:33 |
identp | has anyone ever had trouble with kopete? | 04:33 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, http://live.gnome.org/ReleasePlanning/TwoPointEleven tells me Sept 7th | 04:34 |
axis | /dev/sda: IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) | 04:34 |
bojangles | tritium, yes...ok that fixed one problem just fine with kile...but still debian does not seem to have acroread...whatever that is for. | 04:34 |
jasoncohen | btw, does mozilla's official firefox build allow updating firefox itself through its update tool? | 04:34 |
Madpilot | axis, no ERROR msgs, but it says this: IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) | 04:34 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, Breezy already has the major features of .12, as the .11 develpment release | 04:34 |
tritium | bojangles, debian, or ubuntu? | 04:34 |
jasoncohen | i know the ubuntu package has it disabled | 04:34 |
giant | anyone mind if I ask an OT question ? | 04:34 |
kevogod | jasoncohen: No. | 04:34 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, yes, but it is disabled for ubuntu | 04:34 |
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bojangles | tritium, debian sarge | 04:34 |
kevogod | (sorry, was assuming Ubuntu's version) | 04:35 |
axis | Madpilot, : yah sorry, it says error when you type "hdparm -d1 -c3 -a64 -X66 -k1 /dev/sda" | 04:35 |
tritium | bojangles, you can get it from marillat's repo | 04:35 |
bojangles | tritium, ok i will try | 04:35 |
gyaresu_ | tritium, bojangles no. | 04:35 |
nalioth | bojangles: but disable the repo when you are done | 04:35 |
gyaresu_ | tritium, bojangles user backports | 04:35 |
gyaresu_ | tritium, bojangles *use | 04:35 |
tritium | gyaresu, he's not an ubuntu user | 04:35 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, ah, good. i don't like waiting for the security fixes to be backported to hoary by the security team and i find backport's firefox package to be underpar so i just installed 1.0.5 from the official build | 04:35 |
tritium | gyaresu, he's using debian sarge | 04:35 |
MIK3MAN | C:\DOCUME~1\MIKE\DESKTOP>md5sum ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso | 04:35 |
MIK3MAN | f6b3f164c99761234858a4d2c12d0840 *ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso | 04:35 |
ukato | with a wireless card, do you have to do any other configuration than what's in Networking in the Admin menu of GNOME | 04:35 |
giant | I'm working my way through Spidering Hacksy by Oreilly, and they recommend you contact the site before running your spider/scraper | 04:35 |
nickrud | axis, have you tried -c1? | 04:35 |
gyaresu_ | tritium, sorry. | 04:36 |
MIK3MAN | does that mean it passed?? | 04:36 |
teferi | attn all waiting anxiously on the evolution mail applet thing: i should have a rough prototype tonight! | 04:36 |
axis | nickrud, : yep | 04:36 |
nalioth | MIK3MAN: no ethernet port on your box? | 04:36 |
giant | would this include the sites used in the examples in the book? | 04:36 |
tritium | gyaresu, no problem. Also, backports are unofficial | 04:36 |
nickrud | ok, that's my contribution :) | 04:36 |
knowledge_ | alrighty | 04:36 |
axis | nickrud, "hdparm -d1c1 /dev/sda" was what i got from hdparm | 04:36 |
knowledge_ | the reinstall went well | 04:36 |
axis | man | 04:36 |
giant | it makes sence that Oreilly would have gotten permission from them beforhand | 04:36 |
gyaresu_ | tritium, all the good stuff though ;) | 04:36 |
nalioth | MIK3MAN: go to the ubuntu d/l page and compare your md5 with the one listed on the d/l page | 04:36 |
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axis | but the everything i've googled has crazy stuff .. like "hdparm -d1 -c3 -a64 -X66 -k1 /dev/sda" | 04:36 |
tritium | gyaresu, I guess some people feel that way | 04:36 |
Madpilot | axis: this isn't an AMD64 box, it's a K7. the 64 bit part might be your problem? | 04:36 |
knowledge_ | but I have a question....what does http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/654 <----Mean? | 04:36 |
MIK3MAN | nalioth: yeah its got both, but I would have to dig out the old net cards and cat5 | 04:36 |
axis | Madpilot, : It installs fine, but it's only at 16 bit i/o like yours | 04:37 |
axis | are you able to change your hd's IO to 32 bit? | 04:37 |
tritium | knowledge_, please "sudo apt-get install build-essential" to install a compiler | 04:37 |
MIK3MAN | brb | 04:37 |
cafuego | axis: The crazy stuff tends to blow up controllers, just c1d1u1 should pop it in the optimal mode. | 04:37 |
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Burgundavia | jasoncohen, just confirmed that it does save stuff across sessions as well | 04:37 |
nalioth | MIK3MAN: i'd be interested in seeing what happens when you apt-get update/upgrade | 04:37 |
Madpilot | axis: I'm not even going to try, frankly. it works, it's stable, and I'm not that speed obbsessed right now... | 04:37 |
gyaresu_ | nickrud, axis I don't now but seial drives seem to not work with hdparm. i have good speed but i returns the same PIO 0 that you've got | 04:37 |
knowledge_ | tritium, thank you kindly | 04:37 |
tritium | sure :) | 04:38 |
cafuego | axis: And yes, don believe what hdparm tells you about sata drives. | 04:38 |
nalioth | tritium: dang you are quick | 04:38 |
axis | HDIO_SET_32BIT failed: Invalid argument | 04:38 |
giant | I'm having a problem playing .wmv's with mplayer | 04:38 |
tritium | nalioth, heh, sometimes | 04:38 |
nalioth | tritium: or my corner of the net is slow | 04:38 |
axis | HDIO_SET_UNMASKINTR failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device | 04:38 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, cool- so i'll just backport gnome-system-monitor from breezy myself | 04:38 |
axis | IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) | 04:39 |
giant | I've tried installing the codecs and that helped for .mpg's but totem is buggered and mplayer still won't play .wmv's | 04:39 |
nalioth | giant: you are out of luck with the newer wmv | 04:39 |
cafuego | axis: hdparm is for pata drives. Not for sata or scsi (to a lesser extent). | 04:39 |
chaps0063 | is there any way to get hibernation to work? | 04:39 |
pax | giant: which book are you talking about again? | 04:39 |
axis | cafuego: so how do i check the transfer rate of my SATA drive? | 04:39 |
giant | pax, Spidering Hacks | 04:39 |
pax | giant: k | 04:39 |
cafuego | axis: copy a large file and time it. | 04:39 |
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tritium | chaps0063, it should already. is it not one of your logout options? | 04:39 |
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giant | pax, I didn't want to run a spider and have somone jumping my shlt for using an example in the book | 04:40 |
axis | cafuego, : is there an easier way to get direct results through CLI ? | 04:40 |
MIK3MAN | I dunno guys, I think I have a corrupt download, when I installed it didnt even ask me for a root pass... so I cant switch to root | 04:40 |
kahles1 | eh, does your kernal suport acpi chaps? | 04:40 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, no, that's a feature. | 04:40 |
cafuego | axis: Though 'hdparm -tT' might give you a fairly decent result. the other options mainly just don't apply to non-pata drives and controllers. | 04:40 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo | 04:40 |
pax | giant: wep, careful, and exemples in the book mean nothing | 04:40 |
chaps0063 | tritium: ah yes, it is... | 04:40 |
tritium | excellent | 04:40 |
chaps0063 | tritium: however I don't know that it works. | 04:40 |
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nalioths_dog | MIK3MAN: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo | 04:41 |
giant | pax, the ones I figured were safe were the ones looking at Oreilly's site and Cpan... | 04:41 |
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tritium | chaps0063, it usually does, provided you have a swap partition | 04:41 |
axis | cafuego, : But if it's saying 16bit i/o, that's got to be what it means .. i mean how else do you check SATA drives ? | 04:41 |
chaps0063 | tritium: which I do. | 04:41 |
cafuego | axis: If it really is PIO 16 bit,. youl get around 3MB/sec | 04:41 |
nathanael | I need help - I think I'm addicted to Installs!!!! | 04:41 |
tritium | chaps0063, I hope it will work for you, in that case | 04:41 |
pax | giant: I would simply contact the person who wrote the book and ask | 04:41 |
nathanael | I just re-installed ubuntu for the 3rd time... | 04:41 |
axis | 3600 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1799.37 MB/sec | 04:41 |
chaps0063 | tritium: I tried it, screen went black then gave me pw prompt.. | 04:42 |
tritium | nathanael, why so often? | 04:42 |
nickrud | giant, try doing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo | 04:42 |
nathanael | ISthere something wrong with me? | 04:42 |
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cafuego | axis: You _don't_ check sata drives because they _don't_ do pio. 'hdparm' is OLD and doesn't KNOW about sata. | 04:42 |
tritium | chaps0063, wich laptop? | 04:42 |
pax | giant is it Carla Schrode? | 04:42 |
nathanael | I just love that New System feel! | 04:42 |
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pax | giant is it Carla Schroder*? | 04:42 |
chaps0063 | tritium: Fujitsu Lifebook T4010D | 04:42 |
nathanael | lol | 04:42 |
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cafuego | axis: That was memory speed, useless benchmark. | 04:42 |
tritium | nathanael, well, glad there's no problem ;) | 04:42 |
axis | cafuego: pio = primary input output | 04:42 |
giant | pax, I'll have to go get the book out of my car | 04:42 |
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nathanael | With the computer anyway... | 04:42 |
nickrud | giant, if you have gotten w32codecs thru backports, use /usr/lib/win32/ as the source of the links | 04:42 |
cafuego | axis: No, it's Programmed I/O | 04:42 |
cafuego | axis: And it does not apply to sata (or scsi) | 04:43 |
nathanael | Has anyone here used the HAIH? | 04:43 |
axis | Timing buffered disk reads: 178 MB in 3.00 seconds = 59.32 MB/sec | 04:43 |
pax | giant: nah never mind | 04:43 |
tritium | chaps0063, you might check here, and HoaryPMResults as well: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HoaryPM | 04:43 |
nathanael | (after install helper)? | 04:43 |
giant | pax, by Kevin Hemenway, Tara Calishain | 04:43 |
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axis | 180 megs a second, is that right | 04:43 |
shad0w | hey guys, can anyone help me with mp3s on ubuntu | 04:43 |
cafuego | axis: there you go. that's fairly normal. | 04:43 |
bojangles | tritium, this is quite good...debian and ubuntu seem to work ok for a change | 04:43 |
axis | i thought top speed was 150mb | 04:43 |
giant | pax, ya I did all that,, totem is still buggered | 04:43 |
tritium | bojangles, for a change? You have frequent problems? | 04:43 |
axis | cafuego, : thanks alot for the info | 04:43 |
cafuego | axis: No. | 04:43 |
kevin | did I miss soemthing? | 04:43 |
tritium | bojangles, so are you using ubuntu then? | 04:44 |
kevogod | My name is Kevin. What a coincidence. | 04:44 |
axis | cafuego, : you say fairly normal.. put should be faster .. hmm.. | 04:44 |
bojangles | tritium, yes there were many problems with ubuntu....and a few with debian sarge | 04:44 |
nathanael | shad0w: What's up? | 04:44 |
gyaresu_ | axis, and you'll only get 30MB/sec across a gigabit network. | 04:44 |
kevin | lol | 04:44 |
knowledge_ | I never knew you could rebuild rpms as .deb | 04:44 |
cafuego | axis: Twekaing sta with hdparm is like using a wrench to turn a small screw. Wrong tool. | 04:44 |
axis | gyaresu, : really | 04:44 |
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nathanael | alien!!! | 04:44 |
tritium | bojangles, what problems did you have? | 04:44 |
cafuego | axis: Are you a gentoo user or something? | 04:44 |
gyaresu_ | axis, yes. and ~50MB/sec is fine. | 04:44 |
bojangles | tritium, well acroread whatever that is is still missing on debian sarge. | 04:44 |
MIK3MAN | ok, I read about the root thing... thats cool, but I still dont know what to do... try redownloading and burning the image maybe | 04:44 |
shad0w | well mp3s wont play in xmms, and in the jukebox thing it says theres no plugin for it | 04:44 |
bojangles | tritium, it does seem to be available on ubuntu | 04:45 |
tritium | it is | 04:45 |
gyaresu_ | bojangles, it's the adobe reader 7. they renamed it. | 04:45 |
knowledge_ | who wants to help me for a minute or 2 before I disable my WiFi card again | 04:45 |
cafuego | "Oh my god it's not as fast as yours, i must recompile and tweak it more lolol!" | 04:45 |
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axis | great analogy .. hehe .. hmm.. i just wish there was another way to look at it | 04:45 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, did the md5sum not match? | 04:45 |
FormerWindowsUse | must i defrag my drive if im using ext3? | 04:45 |
axis | but, hdparm says it enables DMA | 04:45 |
bojangles | tritium, also i have to recompile smeg for debian sarge as it uses python2.4 instead of 2.3 | 04:45 |
nickrud | knowledge_, using alien is a last resort, there's usually a better way | 04:45 |
axis | so do you think that's actually a correct report? | 04:45 |
cafuego | axis: for PATA, not SATA. | 04:45 |
axis | i only have 1 drive | 04:45 |
bojangles | tritium, whereas it just works on ubuntu | 04:45 |
knowledge_ | nickrud, I see | 04:45 |
tritium | bojangles, so has #ubuntu become a good debian support channel? | 04:45 |
cafuego | axis: Then hdparm is not a useful tool for you in any way | 04:46 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: I was on the ubuntu site, but they dont have the checksums posted | 04:46 |
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bojangles | tritium, well i like to have debian, gentoo, ubuntu, mepis working if possible | 04:46 |
knowledge_ | does anyone want to look over a how to that I used before, and see why it caused my wifi card to stop working? | 04:46 |
axis | it wasn't enabled on a base install, but once i added hdparm -d1 /dev/sda" in a startup script, it actually worked | 04:46 |
shad0w | can someone tell me how i can get MP3's to play in ubuntu | 04:46 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, did you respond to my bug report? - https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12770 | 04:46 |
tritium | bojangles, I'm just curious, and don't mind you asking debian questions. | 04:46 |
bimberi | shad0w: Hopefully this will help you - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats | 04:46 |
axis | shad0w, : www.mp3.com | 04:46 |
shad0w | thanks dude | 04:46 |
cafuego | axis: That's probably a matter of a not-yet-mature driver. | 04:46 |
axis | LOL | 04:46 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, closed it as fixed | 04:47 |
FormerWindowsUse | must i defrag if im using ext3 fs? | 04:47 |
kevin | knowledge, did you use madwifi? | 04:47 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, ok, just wondering | 04:47 |
axis | cafuego, : so it could be running at half | 04:47 |
tritium | FormerWindowsUse, nope | 04:47 |
nickrud | FormerWindowsUse, no | 04:47 |
gyaresu_ | FormerWindowsUse, no. | 04:47 |
FormerWindowsUse | thanks. | 04:47 |
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axis | i should be getting about 300mb/s | 04:47 |
shad0w | i just switched from XP to ubuntu today ;o other than the mp3 thing its great | 04:47 |
gyaresu_ | FormerWindowsUse, it's a journaling filing system. | 04:47 |
chaps0063 | tritium: followed it, no dice. | 04:47 |
axis | man | 04:47 |
cafuego | You just didn't listehn at all. | 04:47 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, see the file named "MD5SUMS" | 04:47 |
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nathanael | Why does my kernel always say "mounting TMPfs over /dev/..." at boot? | 04:47 |
nickrud | if it's said three times, it must be true :) | 04:47 |
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tritium | chaps0063, did you look for any HoaryPMResults for your hardware? Were there any? | 04:47 |
axis | i know what you're saying, using hdparm to look at SATA is like using a paper towl tube with saran wrap and a drop of water to look at the rings on saturn | 04:48 |
gyaresu_ | axis, you don't know what you are talking about and cafuego is right. | 04:48 |
axis | gyaresu, : thanks for the update | 04:48 |
knowledge_ | kevin, nah, it worked when I first installed ubuntu then I patched my kernel with a driver for my alps touchpad (just to get scrolling) and it stopped working | 04:48 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: got it thanks | 04:48 |
tritium | axis, please don't pester | 04:48 |
gyaresu_ | axis, s'aight. | 04:48 |
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axis | don't act all fucking tough | 04:48 |
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axis | it's not hard to get a shell | 04:48 |
axis | and a vhost | 04:48 |
chaps0063 | tritium: not listed. | 04:48 |
tritium | axis, relax, dude | 04:48 |
kevin | knowledge: did you report the bug? | 04:48 |
knowledge_ | to who? | 04:49 |
axis | Tritium stop telling me what to do | 04:49 |
gyaresu_ | axis, language please. | 04:49 |
tritium | axis, please, don't be a jerk | 04:49 |
axis | stfu | 04:49 |
nickrud | axis, you don't want to go there | 04:49 |
tritium | chaps0063, oh, sory | 04:49 |
kevin | to the bug report built into ubuntu | 04:49 |
axis | i doubt anyone in here is under 18 | 04:49 |
tritium | axis, last warning | 04:49 |
axis | nickrud, : who are you, mr oc192 boy? | 04:49 |
axis | lets get a gline right now | 04:49 |
shad0w | actually | 04:49 |
shad0w | im only 15 | 04:49 |
thoreauputic | axis: erm... tritium is an op in case you didn't notice | 04:49 |
gyaresu_ | axis, we're here to help. | 04:49 |
nickrud | no, just a wanna be friend | 04:49 |
chaps0063 | tritium: were you here for wonderland? | 04:49 |
knowledge_ | no sir...kevin I didn't | 04:49 |
Will_ | ops can still be annoying | 04:49 |
axis | lol | 04:49 |
chaps0063 | tritium: its like the total opposite...lol.. | 04:49 |
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giant | I was about to say.... I'd hope people here were under 18 | 04:50 |
axis | true that | 04:50 |
tritium | chaps0063, yeah, I saw that | 04:50 |
kevin | I would, they will look it over | 04:50 |
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axis | giant, : why's that? | 04:50 |
axis | giant, : so you can pm them? | 04:50 |
knowledge_ | I think the how to commands had something to do with it | 04:50 |
axis | lol you perv | 04:50 |
chaps0063 | tritium: I don't know why no one has been touching this laptop.. | 04:50 |
shad0w | im 15 d:o | 04:50 |
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giant | because it shows an interest that the younger generation has in Linux and computers | 04:50 |
nathanael | 22 | 04:50 |
axis | shad0w, look out for giant .. he's a ped | 04:50 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: chesum matches.. could it be a setting in Nero that did it?? I remember switching to DAO instead of TAO | 04:50 |
axis | 23 | 04:51 |
knowledge_ | because people kept telling me that I had to recompile my kernel with the wifi drivers | 04:51 |
shad0w | lol | 04:51 |
shad0w | i love linux! :D | 04:51 |
axis | shad0w, : ubuntu is the goods | 04:51 |
shad0w | yea | 04:51 |
giant | if a computer related chat room ends up having only 18+ people in it... it means the technical expertice of the next generation is sliipping | 04:51 |
shad0w | i use it on both my comps | 04:51 |
axis | shad0w, : if you want a challange, rung FREEBSD as your core, then VMware (or other free alternatives) | 04:51 |
concept10 | Anyone here recently switched from Windows to Linux? or just installed Ubuntu this week? | 04:51 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, I suppose it's possible. Again, I don't use windows, and hence haven't used nero | 04:51 |
giant | I'm not perv | 04:51 |
giant | I just play one at work | 04:51 |
shad0w | lol | 04:51 |
memoryleek | concept10: i did | 04:51 |
Will_ | axis: fbsd is not difficult at all | 04:51 |
chaps0063 | concept10: close, I've had it for a little over a month. | 04:51 |
kevin | I use it on my desktop and my laptop | 04:51 |
shad0w | i hate challanges | 04:51 |
aru | concept10: as did I | 04:51 |
nathanael | I used it on my server... | 04:51 |
axis | Will_, I know, hardware support with it is though <: | 04:51 |
axis | Will_, : i love freebsd | 04:52 |
shad0w | ubuntu is refreshing, after so many years of windows | 04:52 |
shad0w | and harder distros of linux ;o | 04:52 |
MIK3MAN | hmmm, ok, I am going to redo it on an rw | 04:52 |
axis | they've just changed the x-windows install | 04:52 |
axis | i have to figure that out | 04:52 |
Will_ | axis: It depends on the HW, I guess | 04:52 |
axis | what command it is | 04:52 |
axis | to xf86cfg now | 04:52 |
Will_ | axis: Don't use fbsd for desktops though. pointless | 04:52 |
memoryleek | over the past 2 years linux has changed in leaps and bounds | 04:52 |
nathanael | Apt is far superior to the windows install process... | 04:52 |
axis | it's different | 04:52 |
MIK3MAN | should I maybe try a server install? | 04:52 |
concept10 | Would you guys care to write me an email about what made you go ahead and take the linux plunge? | 04:52 |
giant | I'm so used to useing KDE on other distro's athat I'm a bit lost in Gnome as of righ now but getting much better | 04:52 |
axis | Will_, : i want it to run vmware, that is all. it will be my main file server | 04:52 |
memoryleek | concept10: addy? | 04:52 |
nathanael | Add Synaptic, and it just smokes XP altogether | 04:52 |
axis | Will_, : i'm going to use open bsd as my gateway, and ubuntu/xp for my desktops | 04:52 |
kevogod | FreeBSD can be used a Desktop system pretty easily | 04:52 |
tritium | axis, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 04:53 |
shad0w | have any of you had any luck gaming on ubuntu? | 04:53 |
_DuDe_ | Anyone seen HappyFool recently | 04:53 |
concept10 | Im trying to convince some small business and I need some stories | 04:53 |
giant | I guess I could install K3B but I'd rather use the Gnome programmed tools for burning stuff | 04:53 |
axis | tritium, : that works for freeBSD ? | 04:53 |
tritium | Will_, hopefully you haven't found that to be the case... | 04:53 |
nathanael | concept10: There's a million online already... | 04:53 |
tritium | axis, no, for ubuntu | 04:53 |
aru | kevogod: as can PCBSD :) | 04:53 |
kahles1 | I used to play cs 1.6 on slackware regularlly | 04:53 |
axis | _DuDe_, : last time i saw him was last night about midnight i think | 04:53 |
kahles1 | havent treid source yet thou | 04:53 |
thoreauputic | concept10: worth pressing the advantages of the lack of malware | 04:53 |
Will_ | tritium: HHm? | 04:53 |
kevogod | Yes, but I prefer the real thing aru. | 04:53 |
concept10 | It doesnt have to be a long story, just want made you try Ubuntu and how its been so far | 04:53 |
shad0w | awesome | 04:53 |
axis | Will_, : Kde installs fine with freebsd | 04:53 |
giant | i'm thinking of installing an playing with Solaris 10 for x86 but not sure what good it would do me | 04:54 |
axis | Will_, : and gnome | 04:54 |
shad0w | im going to try half-life 2 on winex later | 04:54 |
tritium | Will_, regarding your earlier comment about annoying ops | 04:54 |
memoryleek | concept10: sure | 04:54 |
axis | lol | 04:54 |
concept10 | nathanael, I know that. I want some recent switchers | 04:54 |
giant | don't you have to pay for winx? | 04:54 |
_DuDe_ | axis, Thanks! | 04:54 |
giant | winx = winex | 04:54 |
kahles1 | yeah, but its really cheap | 04:54 |
shad0w | pay.. lol | 04:54 |
shad0w | :P | 04:54 |
gyaresu_ | #ubuntu-offtopic ??? | 04:54 |
axis | there's another version too | 04:54 |
shad0w | >:P | 04:54 |
kahles1 | or you can install from cvs | 04:54 |
axis | other then winE | 04:54 |
giant | I'd love to run Doom III and Half-life2 on my linux boxy | 04:54 |
axis | and vmware | 04:54 |
giant | OMG... that would rock | 04:54 |
axis | there are like 2 others | 04:54 |
concept10 | email your stories to tenthconcept@gmail.com. No spam guaranteed, seriously | 04:54 |
Madpilot | concept10: what're you needig recent linux switchers stories for? | 04:55 |
axis | giant, : there's another program you use for games | 04:55 |
kevogod | UT2004 works. | 04:55 |
kevogod | (Natively) | 04:55 |
axis | giant, : PC games are supposed to ROCK on linux, MAD FPS .. | 04:55 |
bojangles | axis, forget vmware...that is commercial...they will be shipping zen in most newer distros | 04:55 |
axis | giant, : i haven't figured it out yet | 04:55 |
giant | its also like that sevice that will setup wireless cards for you | 04:55 |
qt2 | how stable is breezy aside from the X problems? | 04:55 |
bojangles | axis, you can find it at cambridge | 04:55 |
giant | yo uhave to pay for it but they say they support all of them | 04:55 |
axis | bojangles, : that's the name of the alternative? sweet great tip | 04:55 |
kevogod | axis: You have an ATI card? | 04:55 |
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concept10 | Madpilot, I want some switcher stories, I putting together some presentations for some small business. I want to know how to address normal peoples concerns about switching | 04:55 |
axis | kevin, : yah , how'd you know | 04:56 |
ksmurf | http:/http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/315370 | 04:56 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, i compiled the package from breezy and installed it with checkinstall (i couldn't compile it with apt-get source -b because its build dependencies couldn't be satisfied but it apparently compiled fine nonetheless) | 04:56 |
kevogod | axis: ATI has poor driver support in Linux. | 04:56 |
giant | axis, how can you get MAD FPS by running the program through a non native OS? | 04:56 |
nickrud | bojangles, does xen do windows again? | 04:56 |
ksmurf | There is a couple of questions I have like how do I do it | 04:56 |
giant | I though it did | 04:56 |
kevogod | axis: You need to get the fglrx drivers from ATI's site. | 04:56 |
axis | giant, : beyond me, i haven't done it yet.. .. | 04:56 |
tritium | ksmurf, you're always welcome to ask | 04:56 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, the program not only is fixed but in the 2.11.5 version, there are sane choices for ending or killing a program and there's a device section- very nice indeed | 04:56 |
bojangles | nickrud, well right now...you can run patched versions of the hurd, linux, and bsd under xen | 04:56 |
concept10 | Any more takers please? | 04:56 |
ksmurf | http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/315370 | 04:56 |
memoryleek | concept10: i'll write | 04:56 |
axis | i don't even play games on my pc, i use my xbox for that | 04:57 |
bojangles | nickrud, and since it was paid for by the taxpayers it is free | 04:57 |
axis | pure video editing | 04:57 |
nickrud | concept10, I'll write as well | 04:57 |
concept10 | jasoncohen, how is it going? | 04:57 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: I am reburning it right now | 04:57 |
axis | and not 3D rendering | 04:57 |
knowledge_ | wow...this rpm rebuild is taking forever | 04:57 |
thoreauputic | concept10: how recent is "recent" ? ;-) | 04:57 |
tritium | kevogod, unless of course you're on ubuntu, and you can use the ubuntu fglrx support | 04:57 |
ksmurf | tririum .... It's in the paste bin.... | 04:57 |
axis | tritium, : how do you enable that | 04:57 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, okay, good luck | 04:57 |
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ksmurf | it's about bash scripts and starting them at startup | 04:57 |
Madpilot | concept10: well, I switched from XP bout 2-3 months ago. I'll trash out a semi-coherent email for you later tonight | 04:57 |
jasoncohen | concept10, quite well. i've been busy lately but other than that i'm doing well. | 04:57 |
tritium | axis, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto | 04:57 |
axis | link me | 04:57 |
kevogod | tritium: Ubuntu does not come with fglrx. | 04:57 |
axis | nice | 04:57 |
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MIK3MAN | I'll keep ya posted, 35% | 04:58 |
jasoncohen | concept10, how are you? | 04:58 |
tritium | kevogod, sure it does | 04:58 |
kevogod | You have to add repositories. | 04:58 |
nickrud | ksmurf, that seems pretty generic | 04:58 |
ksmurf | and how to write one | 04:58 |
MIK3MAN | burning it slower this time | 04:58 |
kevogod | (Or enable) | 04:58 |
qt2 | bojangles, what's this 'zen' you speak of? | 04:58 |
giant | how good is ubuntu's Radeon support? | 04:58 |
tritium | kevogod, no, it's in restricted, which is enabled by default | 04:58 |
qt2 | oh... xen... | 04:58 |
giant | Xen... its a VM program | 04:58 |
ksmurf | nickrud that's what I thought | 04:58 |
giant | suposed to be really good | 04:58 |
kevogod | They're still not installed. | 04:58 |
concept10 | thoreauputic, It really doesnt matter, I just need people that have had no prior linux experience (you know someone from Red Hat 5.2). Im looking for recent switchers. There is no money in this for me. Just something im working on | 04:58 |
kevogod | The drivers. | 04:58 |
qt2 | i see... | 04:58 |
tritium | kevin, but they are avialable for installation | 04:59 |
qt2 | hm... i wonder if its in synaptic... o.o; | 04:59 |
nickrud | ksmurf, but accurate | 04:59 |
tritium | kevogod, ^^^ | 04:59 |
MIK3MAN | brb | 04:59 |
ksmurf | I'm looking to write a script ( like a dos BAT file) | 04:59 |
thoreauputic | concept10: I don't think I qualify :) | 04:59 |
concept10 | jasoncohen, good. I have something that you may be interested in. | 04:59 |
ksmurf | and have it go at startup | 04:59 |
kevogod | So downloading them ATI's site or from Restricted... what's the difference? | 04:59 |
kevogod | *from | 04:59 |
tritium | ksmurf, actually, you should look into update-rc.d | 04:59 |
jasoncohen | concept10, sure- PM me | 04:59 |
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qt2 | concept10, err, i switched from windows recently, though i dont know how my help i can be. | 04:59 |
kevin | I am slowly learning about linux and it's bells and whistles. The important part is I am learning with a lot of patience from the good people around me both home and online | 05:00 |
tritium | kevogod, ATI's site doesn't have nice .deb packages that will be managed by the package management system | 05:00 |
ksmurf | tritium... commands can go from there? | 05:00 |
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giant | I've been running linux for a bit | 05:00 |
tritium | ksmurf, see the manpage for update-rc.d on how to use it to add startup scripts | 05:00 |
ksmurf | k | 05:00 |
ksmurf | thanks | 05:00 |
giant | but its mostly if it doens't install and go to a GUI I'm at a loss as to how to debug it and make it work | 05:00 |
giant | so I'mnot a very good linux person yet | 05:00 |
nickrud | ksmurf, for example, you could create a bash script that does 'hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom', drop it into /etc/init.d, and use update-rc.d to add it to the /etc/rc2.d directory | 05:00 |
memoryleek | how many of you are running ubuntu on a laptop | 05:00 |
kevin | I am | 05:01 |
giant | I would be...but my lappy is buggered | 05:01 |
anto9us | me too | 05:01 |
aru | I am | 05:01 |
tritium | memoryleek, lots of us | 05:01 |
kevin | how do I change my nick? | 05:01 |
chalenged | i have it on 8 laptops for work atm.. | 05:01 |
identp | im having a small problem with kopete, anyone use this message client? | 05:01 |
Ubuntuguide | I am | 05:01 |
memoryleek | kevin: did you have any probs during install???...i'm going to buy a laptop soon and just wondering | 05:01 |
kevin | nope, I am running a p1 233 and it went seamlessly | 05:01 |
ksmurf | nickrud That's what I want..... how do I write the script | 05:01 |
identp | i am running kubuntu on a dell laptop | 05:02 |
bojangles | tritium, what is up with the gpl version of cinerella and why does it require a dual opteron 64 | 05:02 |
chalenged | identp i did for a while then went to gaim when ms changed to v7 protocols as kopete broke ...i beleive its fixed now tho | 05:02 |
memoryleek | kevin: server install? | 05:02 |
Ubuntuguide | running on a dell c840, no prob | 05:02 |
tritium | bojangles, no idea - never used it. Sorry. | 05:02 |
kevin | nope, boot from cd | 05:02 |
tritium | Ubuntuguide, same here. | 05:02 |
memoryleek | ohh...is the WiFi support good? | 05:02 |
Ubuntuguide | tritium, works good, right? | 05:03 |
tritium | Ubuntuguide, every bit, from nvidia to suspend-to-ram | 05:03 |
kevin | seams to be I am using my d-link dwl-g650 to talk to you | 05:03 |
Ubuntuguide | using cisco aironet 350 pcmcia wifi | 05:03 |
anto9us | I'm running a Dell Inspiron 9100, suspend is my only issue but that's because of the binary ATI drivers | 05:03 |
identp | chalenged, i am having trouble seeing or receiving messages from AIM and AOL users, is this similar to your experience? | 05:03 |
nickrud | ksmurf, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/315372 | 05:03 |
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ksmurf | u rock | 05:03 |
memoryleek | kick ass...i want a laptop but i dont want to dual boot it...i just want linux on it...thanks | 05:03 |
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kevin | that's all I use in my personal life | 05:04 |
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gyaresu_ | debian on an m5200n laptop. works perfect. should work with ubuntu | 05:04 |
ksmurf | nickrud how do I make it exacutable | 05:04 |
nickrud | ksmurf, sudo chmod u+x /etc/init.d/<whatever you named it> | 05:04 |
bojangles | gyaresu, well debian sarge is in fair shape but still has a few bugs. | 05:04 |
memoryleek | gyaresu_: yea i used to run debian...if that works on a laptop then i know this will | 05:05 |
kevin | I use suse 9.2 on my desktop and ubuntu on my laptop | 05:05 |
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memoryleek | i couldnt get debian 3.1 to install...kept hanging | 05:05 |
bojangles | memoryleek, well look at the boot options | 05:05 |
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kevin | I could but I hhave a prob with Debian, my lack of knowledge | 05:05 |
gyaresu_ | bojangles, memoryleek yeah. this is a new asus and even the ipw2200 wireless is working. don't know about the modem of course ;) | 05:05 |
memoryleek | bojangles: yea i'd have to go over it again..but i'm satisfied with ubuntu for now | 05:06 |
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nickrud | ksmurf, then, sudo update-rc.d <whatever you named it> defaults | 05:06 |
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bojangles | gyaresu, well i heard intel released some free source code for their own wireless | 05:06 |
gyaresu_ | memoryleek, noacpi | 05:06 |
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giant | I'm liking ubuntu... not as many programs as my SuSE 9.3 install..but it works pretty good | 05:06 |
memoryleek | gyaresu_: well it hung when it was configuring the network settings | 05:06 |
gyaresu_ | bojangles, i use the native drivers and they do monitor mode. all i need. | 05:06 |
nickrud | ksmurf, correction, sudo update-rc.d <whatever you named it> defaults 99 | 05:06 |
bojangles | gyaresu, but nobody gives a shit about wireless....they are all trying to get the tunable laser networks working | 05:06 |
tritium | giant, there should be more programs available than in Suse | 05:06 |
misfit_toy | giant, not as many programs??? there are MORE | 05:07 |
Ubuntuguide | giant you should be able to install anything you want | 05:07 |
delltony | real quick simple question how do you mount a dvd ? isn't it mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /pathtomountpoint ? | 05:07 |
bojangles | gyaresu, and the solid state hard drives with fiber optics coupling | 05:07 |
kevin | I used suse 9.3 on my desktop pc untilmy desktop disapeared 4x | 05:07 |
gyaresu_ | memoryleek, do use ubuntu. much more of the 'just works' factor. | 05:07 |
tritium | giant, approximately 15,000 | 05:07 |
giant | I can.... I mean on a default intall | 05:07 |
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aru | giant: There are more available, just fewer installed by default | 05:07 |
memoryleek | gyaresu_: exactly....i like it a lot | 05:07 |
chalenged | i think ive managed to get 1 / 17 modems in laptops to work with a free driver | 05:07 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: ok installing ubuntu take 2!! | 05:07 |
misfit_toy | giant, you get less crap up front. ;) | 05:07 |
gyaresu_ | delltony, 'mount cdrom' | 05:07 |
thoreauputic | giant: enable universe and multiverse and choose from ~ 16 000 packages :) | 05:07 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, good luck, buddy :) | 05:07 |
giant | and that is nice | 05:07 |
gyaresu_ | delltony, if it's listed in the /etc/fstab | 05:07 |
identp | does anyone know what version of KDE comes with kubuntu 5.04 or how i could find out? | 05:08 |
delltony | its not | 05:08 |
giant | misfit_toy, Probably the reason Ubuntu loads in a fraction of the time | 05:08 |
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liquidten | identp: open up kcontrol | 05:08 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: right away its asking me for my ESSID for my wifi | 05:08 |
memoryleek | identp: none come with, but you can get 3.4 | 05:08 |
kevin | chalenged: I have gotten most laptop modems working with the good help of some programmer friends | 05:08 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, okay | 05:08 |
misfit_toy | giant, yes, and everything you need to get goin', tastes great, less filling. | 05:08 |
misfit_toy | ;) | 05:08 |
gyaresu_ | identp, #kubuntu | 05:08 |
delltony | actually it is | 05:08 |
delltony | entry is /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 | 05:09 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: it actually see's the card, but I dont know what to put here??? | 05:09 |
delltony | so id mount cdrom0 ? | 05:09 |
identp | thanks, its pretty quiet in #kubuntu | 05:09 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, do you use an essid? | 05:09 |
gyaresu_ | delltony, and a symlink to /dev/cdrom i'm guessing. | 05:09 |
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MIK3MAN | not yet.. no WEP | 05:09 |
kevin | it is scarey what they can do with even the OLD versions of Linux | 05:09 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, okay, leave it blank | 05:09 |
gyaresu_ | delltony, got X ? | 05:09 |
MIK3MAN | ok | 05:09 |
teferi | i think i have a prototype... | 05:09 |
nickrud | teferi, I'll be happy to be a test bed | 05:10 |
gyaresu_ | delltony, just eject it and then reinsert the disk. should automount | 05:10 |
teferi | nickrud: not until i confirm it works... | 05:10 |
nickrud | if I can do it, anyone can :) | 05:10 |
teferi | it's less than 20 lines of code | 05:10 |
kevin | tritium: has MILK done an iwlist scan? | 05:10 |
teferi | and this test message i just sent myself isn't arriving... | 05:10 |
tritium | kevin, he says he hasn't setup WEP on his router, unless I misunderstood him | 05:11 |
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teferi | YES! | 05:11 |
kevin | tritium: woops there I go again, I don't know the whole story, sorry | 05:11 |
shad0w | thanks guys! i got mp3s to work | 05:11 |
teferi | It WORKS | 05:11 |
delltony | its works i can play it but its only if i using xine and point it to /dev/hdc | 05:11 |
tritium | kevin, no need to apologize, thanks for double-checking :) | 05:11 |
kevin | yw | 05:12 |
gyaresu_ | delltony, who are you talking to? | 05:12 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: ok, DHCP has failed cause I have to configure the wifi later, I have a menu here, should I choose do not configure network at this time? | 05:12 |
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teferi | nickrud: lemme clean this up (actually put it in a file :)) and i'll shoot you a copy | 05:12 |
teferi | it's really really simple | 05:12 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, how many wireless routers are in your proximity? | 05:12 |
MIK3MAN | 2 | 05:12 |
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MIK3MAN | sorry 1 router, 2 cards | 05:13 |
nickrud | teferi, I'll hang out for a while | 05:13 |
knowledge_ | what is meant by cd rpmdir in http://www.bitpim.org/developer.html | 05:13 |
giant | wish me luck | 05:13 |
knowledge_ | ? | 05:13 |
teferi | nickrud: yeah, i have to handle a few more cases than the code does right now, but the basic thing is *tiny* | 05:13 |
giant | i'mt rying to get 3d on my ubuntu | 05:13 |
teferi | i really wonder why no one did this sooner! | 05:13 |
memoryleek | good luck | 05:13 |
nickrud | teferi, I gotta go for 10 min, be back | 05:13 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, just the one? It's yours? | 05:13 |
teferi | okay | 05:13 |
giant | but I've been drinking...so if I don't totally screw it up... it should work | 05:13 |
memoryleek | lol | 05:13 |
giant | or I'll hose my xwindows | 05:13 |
memoryleek | been there done that | 05:13 |
delltony | gyaresu, anyone that will listen and help i have the fstab entry | 05:14 |
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delltony | but i get bad superblock when trying to mount media/cdrom0 when a dvd is in the drive | 05:14 |
MIK3MAN | Im in a basement with concrete walls.. I think just mine, I mean I could pull up a sniffer | 05:14 |
gyaresu_ | delltony, do you have a GUI? | 05:14 |
gyaresu_ | delltony, i'm just wondering hy you are trying to mount it manually | 05:15 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, can you drop to a virtual console, and verify you're seeing with iwlist please? | 05:15 |
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knowledge_ | anyone? | 05:15 |
MIK3MAN | tritium: its not installed, Im on winblows remember?? heh | 05:15 |
aru | its windows | 05:16 |
MIK3MAN | I figure I could skip the network and use madwifi after | 05:16 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, you're right. Well, how important is getting networking configured right now rather than later? | 05:16 |
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ksmurf | nickrud .... that didn't like me either | 05:17 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, you are using the wrong instructions. | 05:17 |
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ultraquix | Does ubuntu not allow regular root logins on virtual terminals | 05:17 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, okay, if you wish to proceed with the installation, go for it | 05:17 |
knowledge_ | gyaresu, how so? | 05:17 |
ksmurf | sorry fixed | 05:17 |
Capilano | hello all ! | 05:17 |
qt2 | Remember folks.. dont drink and config/compile. ;;< | 05:17 |
tritium | ultraquix, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo | 05:17 |
MIK3MAN | but I may get errors down the line when there is apt-get update, or that kinda stuff | 05:17 |
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tritium | MIK3MAN, that's fine. You can install purely off CD | 05:17 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, sorry. no you're not. their instructions are a little wacky. | 05:18 |
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giant | ALL RIGHT.... its smoke test time | 05:18 |
qt2 | ultraquix, use sudo. | 05:18 |
MIK3MAN | I'll skip for now and give you the errors if I get any | 05:18 |
giant | if I come back... it means I didn't totally hose this thing | 05:18 |
tritium | MIK3MAN, okay. I won't be sticking around much longer, though. | 05:18 |
knowledge_ | gyaresu, I see....I'm at the "cd rpmdir" line...but I don't know what the dir is.... | 05:18 |
Capilano | I was tweaking my system, and I delete the following directory: /usr/share/fonts Now I cannot, of course log back into a system that has no fonts. Any suggestion | 05:18 |
giant | wait...maybe I should ask before I go | 05:18 |
knowledge_ | gyaresu, any input? | 05:18 |
giant | wondering if I did this right | 05:18 |
MIK3MAN | thats ok | 05:18 |
giant | I downloaded and installed the fglrx | 05:19 |
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MIK3MAN | If this dont work, ubuntu dont like my hardware | 05:19 |
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kevin | I will be here for 45 mins or so | 05:19 |
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Jivemonkey | anyone have updated info on mono repository for ubuntu? | 05:19 |
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tritium | MIK3MAN, okay, good luck to you :) | 05:19 |
Jivemonkey | the ones listed in the wiki are out of date | 05:19 |
giant | then ran the 'echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules' | 05:19 |
chris_ | what file needs to be edited to allow root login at gui login screen? | 05:19 |
Capilano | so did I, for a lack of a better word | 05:19 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, i presume it doesn't just make a folder in the directory you rmpbuil in then? | 05:19 |
kevin | Jvemonkey: sorry not I | 05:19 |
giant | then added that one line to the xorg.cong because I have an nforce2 board | 05:19 |
giant | did I miss anything? | 05:20 |
knowledge_ | gyaresu, no sir | 05:20 |
ukato | with a wireless card, do you have to do any other configuration than what's in Networking in the Admin menu of GNOME | 05:20 |
qt2 | MIK3MAN, you can force ubuntu to like any hardware pretty much ;) | 05:20 |
giant | knowledge_, I'm guessin gthat was for me? | 05:20 |
thoreauputic | chris_: that's generally deprecated, but you can configure it in the settings for GDM | 05:20 |
tritium | Good night, all. | 05:20 |
giant | oh or not | 05:20 |
aru | chris_: there is really no reason to log in as root | 05:21 |
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MIK3MAN | qt2: yeah, but I am a noob to linux, maybe a week or so, there are other distros just until I get comfy | 05:21 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, why don't you just apt-get install wxpython2.5.3 ? | 05:21 |
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knowledge_ | I need 2.6 | 05:21 |
ultraquix | My ATI IXP audio is not coming up, although the likely culprit kernel module atiixp.ko is | 05:21 |
Captain | . | 05:21 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, ah. sorry. reading that now. | 05:21 |
qt2 | MIK3MAN, so didnt i. | 05:21 |
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Jivemonkey | anyone in here using mono? | 05:22 |
MIK3MAN | qt2: like I was telling everyone Mepis went in without a hitch, I just want to test all the flavors | 05:22 |
qt2 | MIK3MAN, i've been on linux for a total of 1.5 weeks :P | 05:22 |
qt2 | MIK3MAN, heh, i se. | 05:22 |
MIK3MAN | lol | 05:22 |
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qt2 | *see | 05:22 |
chris_ | i have a firewire disc that will mount but not let me record to it. Says I dont have permission but my username is owner/group and permissions are -R 775. Anyone know what's up? | 05:22 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, looks to me like rpmbuild should build you a folder in the same dir | 05:22 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, i'm guessing it doesn't or you wouldn't be asking | 05:23 |
kevin | I have been using linux off and on for a year now, forthe past 3 months solid but have finally gotten to whereI do things myself instead of havingothers do for me | 05:23 |
knowledge_ | i thought it would be in /usr/src/rpm/RPMS/i386 but the next command doesn't do anything | 05:23 |
MIK3MAN | Micro$oft is going to start checking product keys to validate windows update now | 05:23 |
thoreauputic | chris_: what file system is on that disc? | 05:23 |
MIK3MAN | time to switch to linux | 05:23 |
knowledge_ | gyaresu, nope... | 05:23 |
Capilano | in a hurry Mik3 | 05:24 |
kevin | MILK3MAN: yes they are that's one reason for my deployment to Linux | 05:24 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, rpmbuild log? | 05:24 |
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Will_ | MIK3MAN: Or to pay for your operating system | 05:24 |
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kevin | <--- cannot afford legal windblows | 05:24 |
kevogod | MIK3MAN: I have completely removed myself from Windows. | 05:24 |
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gyaresu_ | knowledge_, specify it to log on the command line/ | 05:24 |
MIK3MAN | lol | 05:24 |
ep | on validating produckt key, you mean Longhorn? | 05:24 |
chris_ | thoreauputic - i am noob so i dont know for sure but i brought it to this machine from a Mac so I must believe HFS+ | 05:24 |
memoryleek | who can afford windows legally? | 05:24 |
Capilano | I HEARD ABOUT THAT LAST YEAR AND DID IT THEN, NO REGRET UNTIL TODAY | 05:24 |
Nsaneice | Not I, memoryleek | 05:24 |
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Capilano | oups | 05:24 |
knowledge_ | gyaresu, there's an extremely long log | 05:24 |
MIK3MAN | yeah, I read the article, like 95% is pirated in China | 05:24 |
kevin | ep: no, xp, 2k and all of that I believe | 05:24 |
Capilano | sorry about that people | 05:25 |
MIK3MAN | india is like 80% | 05:25 |
memoryleek | hehe...my college sells microsoft software for 7 bucks a CD...LEGALLY | 05:25 |
chris_ | thoreauputic - i can read it though | 05:25 |
memoryleek | but they limit you to one copy :( | 05:25 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, good. :) any clues in it? | 05:25 |
thoreauputic | chris_: if it's ntfs you can't write to it - hfs+ I'm unsure but I think is writable | 05:25 |
kevogod | Microsoft subsidizes to monopolize. | 05:25 |
knowledge_ | gyaresu, not that I can see... | 05:25 |
Capilano | yes, but once the sn has been use | 05:25 |
kevin | yup lol kevogod | 05:25 |
knowledge_ | should I pastebin it so you can take a gander? | 05:25 |
snackalot | 7 dollars i paid 100 those assholes | 05:26 |
chris_ | thoreauputic - i have written to it in past, but suddenly i cant, even when sudo change permissions. | 05:26 |
Madpilot | kevogod: well put. and memoryleek's school probably paid $$$$$ for their licences. | 05:26 |
MIK3MAN | memoryleek: I'll paypal ya, send me a valid key for XP Pro for $7 ;) | 05:26 |
memoryleek | haha...wish i could | 05:26 |
snackalot | someone should hack there ass and shut them down | 05:26 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, updatedb ; locate py2.3 | 05:26 |
kevogod | Madpilot: They pigeon hole you into using their operating system. | 05:26 |
memoryleek | Madpilot: i'm sure they did...and my tuition keeps going sky high | 05:26 |
thoreauputic | chris_: you might need to have a file system specified in /etc/fstab for it | 05:26 |
Capilano | perhaps, but maybe they are using Linux servers | 05:27 |
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kevogod | "Sky High" - a great Kurt Russell film I'm sure of it! | 05:27 |
chris_ | thoreauputic - do you have a link for tutorial? | 05:27 |
memoryleek | haha | 05:27 |
thoreauputic | chris_: for fstab? | 05:27 |
Nsaneice | Hey, is there anyway I can shorten the timeout on the "Configuring Network interfaces"? It takes to long with the eth0 and wlan0. | 05:27 |
chris_ | thoreauputic - sorry, like i said, noob | 05:27 |
gyaresu_ | snackalot, language please. | 05:27 |
snackalot | english | 05:27 |
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knowledge_ | gyaresu, updatedb ; locate py2.3 | 05:27 |
knowledge_ | lol | 05:27 |
Will_ | snackalot: Hack who? | 05:28 |
knowledge_ | gyaresu, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/655 | 05:28 |
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snackalot | microsoft assholes | 05:28 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, why lol? | 05:28 |
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gyaresu_ | snackalot, please stop. | 05:28 |
aru | snackalot: calm down | 05:28 |
thoreauputic | chris_: ah OK - well a start is to run " less /etc/fstab " and have a look at it, then try reading man fstab | 05:28 |
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snackalot | 4 overcharging for there shit | 05:28 |
Capilano | any idea how to reinstall basic fonts ? | 05:28 |
Will_ | IBM has _just_ stopped support for OS2. JUST. Do you really think windows will 'go away' in our lifetime? Stop bitching. | 05:28 |
knowledge_ | because I meant to paste the url | 05:28 |
thoreauputic | chris_: man fstab won't make much sense at first ;) | 05:28 |
gyaresu_ | snackalot, STOP SWEARING | 05:28 |
aru | bob2: snackalot is out of hand :) | 05:28 |
giant | OFG.... it worked | 05:29 |
snackalot | sorry OK just makes me mad | 05:29 |
ksmurf | ok I followed the instruction and still no go ... the shell script is at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/315375. I ran the script to see if it would work and it does, but not at startup. | 05:29 |
giant | I can now get my screensavers 3d | 05:29 |
giant | AWSOME | 05:29 |
chris_ | thoreauputic - firewire not in fstab | 05:29 |
giant | ubunto rocks | 05:29 |
thoreauputic | chris_: if you hang on a minute I'll see if I can find a link for you | 05:29 |
MIK3MAN | snackalot: I'll take some blame, I started the Micro$oft talk | 05:29 |
ksmurf | can i list my init.d? | 05:29 |
chris_ | thoreauputic - i have it open in pico | 05:29 |
Nsaneice | Yea Ubuntu is nice, its even better when you install it as server and not default | 05:29 |
snackalot | what do you expect im a constrution worker | 05:30 |
thoreauputic | chris_: how are you mounting it? Is it just appearing automagically? | 05:30 |
MIK3MAN | but hey! we are converting | 05:30 |
aru | MIK3MAN: #ubuntu-offtopic | 05:30 |
snackalot | thats ok | 05:30 |
chris_ | thoreauputic - yes | 05:30 |
ultraquix | upgrading kernel... | 05:30 |
vkm | I'm trying to install acroread via apt on Ubuntu Hoary. My only nonstandard apt sources are universe/multiverse, backports and nerim. When I try to install acroread, apt tells me it wants a newer version of libc6 than the one currently installed. Have I somehow broken my package system or is there some other apt source I should add? | 05:30 |
ep | your college has probably entered into some "agreement" with Microsoft. So they get they money via your tax dollars. Its one way or another. | 05:30 |
knowledge_ | gyaresu, nothing on the locate | 05:30 |
thoreauputic | chris_: OK, well I'm not sure how that works - probably gnome-volume-manager is doing it | 05:30 |
knowledge_ | you see anything in the url? | 05:30 |
snackalot | can someone tell me were to go to get hacking tuts | 05:31 |
ultraquix | boot boot | 05:31 |
Burgundavia | vkm, get rid of nerim | 05:31 |
Burgundavia | vkm, acroread is in mutliverse | 05:31 |
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kevin | bbiab | 05:31 |
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vkm | Burgundavia: Is there a more ubuntu-centric source for the nerim packages? | 05:31 |
chris_ | thoreauputic - it is possible to add this to my fstab manually though? | 05:31 |
Burgundavia | vkm, hoary-extras from the backports project | 05:31 |
ksmurf | nickrud...? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/315375 is the script... but it didn't start at startup. | 05:31 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, yeah and nothing in the /usr/src/RPMS/i386 ? | 05:31 |
teferi | nickrud: okay, i have a working test script | 05:31 |
knowledge_ | gyaresu, no sir | 05:32 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, hmmm. | 05:32 |
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teferi | it's probably not written in The Python Way, but it works | 05:32 |
thoreauputic | chris_: probably, but I don't know how, sorry - someone else might | 05:32 |
vkm | Burgundavia: Thanks. Will switch. But: Removing nerim shouldn't affect my acroread troubles, no? | 05:32 |
chris_ | thoreauputic - thank you for the help though. i have a place to start now. | 05:32 |
Burgundavia | vkm, nerim is for sarge, not hoary | 05:32 |
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MIK3MAN | looks like my installation is going in with no errors | 05:32 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, locate rpm | 05:33 |
MIK3MAN | woohoo | 05:33 |
Burgundavia | vkm, and acroread is part of the offiical uubuntu repos | 05:33 |
spermie_411 | is there any vet or doctor IRCS to get medical advice??? | 05:33 |
knowledge_ | gyaresu, actually there is...but the alien *py2.3* isn't doing anything | 05:33 |
thoreauputic | chris_: you're welcome - good luck :) | 05:33 |
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giant | um thats not right | 05:33 |
giant | I tried running Hugo's Smoke and it froze | 05:33 |
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giant | I guessing thats a problem with the 3d driver I just intalled | 05:33 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, what's the name of the py file in the /usr/src/blah | 05:34 |
giant | Radeon 9800 pro | 05:34 |
giant | I installed the fglrx | 05:34 |
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giant | and put the part in the config file for the nfore2 chipset | 05:34 |
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giant | anyone know where I could look for log output | 05:35 |
knowledge_ | wxPython2.6-devel-gtk2-unicode-2.6.1.0-1.i386.rpm wxPython2.6-gtk2-unicode-2.6.1.0-1.i386.rpm wxPython-common-gtk2-unicode-2.6.1.0-1.i386.rpm | 05:35 |
MIK3MAN | giant: you may know this already, but I was just on ATI site and I seen that the 9800 has genuine drivers, just so you know | 05:35 |
thoreauputic | giant: /var/log | 05:35 |
mjkelly93 | /var/log/ | 05:35 |
gyaresu_ | giant, /var/llogXorg.0.log | 05:35 |
giant | MIK3MAN, would the genuine driver work better than the ones I got with apt-get | 05:35 |
gyaresu_ | giant, /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 05:35 |
MIK3MAN | giant: genuine for linux I mean | 05:35 |
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knowledge_ | gyaresu, you meant that? | 05:36 |
spermie_411 | is there any vet or doctor IRCS to get medical advice??? | 05:36 |
mjkelly93 | im lookin for someone very experienced with fglrx, im very close to having the module run correctly | 05:36 |
vkm | Burgundavia: Thanks much. | 05:36 |
MIK3MAN | giant: I would say yes, cause if ATI is backing them... | 05:36 |
giant | MIK3MAN, Makes sence | 05:36 |
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blmartin777 | Do you install new kernels with synaptics package manager? | 05:36 |
mjkelly93 | any takers for help with fglrx and a radeon 9250? | 05:36 |
MIK3MAN | check it out, Im sure it was the 9800 series | 05:36 |
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gyaresu_ | knowledge_, yeah. | 05:37 |
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knowledge_ | gyaresu, any idea on why the alien command isn't working? | 05:38 |
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mjkelly93 | noone wants to help with fglrx? cmon i know someone out there wants a challenge :) | 05:38 |
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bojangles | MIK3MAN, you mean India is pirating Windows at 80% | 05:38 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, i think the 3 packages are rebuilt to show as 'version 2.3' . you could try alien'ing all three of them but i'm not sure. | 05:38 |
bojangles | MIK3MAN, instead of paying through the nose. | 05:38 |
regeya | isn't Windows offtopic? | 05:38 |
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synd | regeya, depends. | 05:39 |
knowledge_ | mann....ahh screw it...I give up | 05:39 |
regeya | synd, not really. | 05:39 |
blmartin777 | Can I install new kernels in synaptics | 05:39 |
MIK3MAN | bojangles: I was told off topic, but yeah, they ranked 3rd | 05:39 |
synd | regeya, when the ops say its off topic, then its off topic | 05:39 |
abhayks | "QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded" after update of libmsql-mt | 05:39 |
gyaresu_ | knowledge_, you should be able to make copies and then try alien'ing them without harming anything else. | 05:39 |
synd | til then, dont worry | 05:39 |
regeya | synd, well pardon moi. | 05:39 |
bojangles | MIK3MAN, well they are going to be in big trouble when MS goes to Trusted Network Computing | 05:39 |
synd | regeya, yup | 05:39 |
giant | I run a .run file from the terminal correct? | 05:40 |
knowledge_ | I see. | 05:40 |
giant | how do I do that?....sorry if I'm a noob | 05:40 |
regeya | so who likes pie? | 05:40 |
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MIK3MAN | thats why I'm here | 05:40 |
giant | cherry pie | 05:40 |
giant | in the eye | 05:40 |
regeya | I like blackberry pie, and apple pie a bit less than blackberry. | 05:40 |
bojangles | MIK3MAN, their pirated stuff will no longer work and it will be much more difficult for them to pirate anything | 05:40 |
knowledge_ | gyaresu, alien wxPython* will work? | 05:40 |
regeya | cherry pie and peach pie are right out. | 05:40 |
mjkelly93 | i just had some shoe fly pie | 05:40 |
thoreauputic | giant: what .run file do you have there? | 05:40 |
regeya | giant, that's an unusual method for eating pie. | 05:40 |
giant | I picked up the ati-driver-installer-8.14.13.run | 05:41 |
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gyaresu_ | knowledge_, should work. | 05:41 |
elmagozizou | Hi, I have a problem with mplayer...I dont know why it show me a message every time is gonna play somethig...The message is something about the FONT | 05:41 |
giant | you got to pop a lot of cherries to get a pie like that | 05:41 |
MIK3MAN | bojangles: join #ubuntu-offtopic and I will tell you whats going to happen | 05:41 |
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bojangles | MIK3MAN, ok. | 05:41 |
thoreauputic | giant: have you read the wiki on binary drivers? | 05:41 |
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thoreauputic | !drivers | 05:41 |
ubotu | I heard drivers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto | 05:41 |
giant | no not het | 05:41 |
elmagozizou | I mean mplayer in grafic mode | 05:41 |
abhayks | libqt3-mt-mysql and libqt3-mysql upgraded and not getting | 05:41 |
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abhayks | "QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL3 driver not loaded" | 05:41 |
mjkelly93 | giant, if ur installing a radeon 9800, i watched someone in here do it from scratch yesterday with the exact same model following these directions to a T: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto | 05:42 |
elmagozizou | in terminal mode is fine | 05:42 |
thoreauputic | giant: i suggest you read the ubotu URL above | 05:42 |
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elmagozizou | Hi, I have a problem with mplayer...I dont know why it show me a message every time is gonna play somethig...The message is something about the FONT | 05:42 |
blmartin777 | where is a good place to find all available repositories for ubuntu? | 05:42 |
ajax_ | teferi, I'm back | 05:42 |
elmagozizou | Just ins grafic mode, in terminal mode is fine... | 05:42 |
hosler | This may sound really stupid, but has anyone been able to get visual studio 6.0 to work on linux yet? I tried wine and crossover, but those send me the same error messages. | 05:42 |
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kevin | bk for a bit then I am off to bed so I can try and sleep with the drunk twits downstairs slamming doors!! | 05:42 |
mjkelly93 | elmagozizou, try sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts | 05:42 |
Madpilot | !repos | 05:42 |
ubotu | somebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto | 05:42 |
abhayks | anyone does mysql related programming on breezy | 05:42 |
abhayks | ? | 05:42 |
regeya | hooray, pie isn't offtopic yet! | 05:42 |
teferi | ajax_: you want the crude but working script? | 05:42 |
Madpilot | blmartin777: read the URL that ubotu just posted | 05:42 |
ajax_ | heh, I'm ajax, now | 05:43 |
elmagozizou | mjkelly93, I all ready download that...but doesnt fix | 05:43 |
mjkelly93 | hmm | 05:43 |
giant | I tried that | 05:43 |
teferi | i noticed, was confused | 05:43 |
mjkelly93 | i couldnt get mplayer to install right either so i just use xine | 05:43 |
mjkelly93 | i think its better | 05:43 |
mjkelly93 | too | 05:43 |
ajax_ | my dialup died, this is nickrud :) | 05:43 |
giant | mjkelly93, I tried those... it brings back up my video..but when I try and run a 3d screensaver it locks | 05:43 |
mjkelly93 | giant, what does fglrxinfo look like? | 05:43 |
teferi | i noticed | 05:43 |
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elmagozizou | but can you play all the formats in XINE? | 05:44 |
erudeye | hello | 05:44 |
Mechcozmo | hello | 05:44 |
mjkelly93 | elmagozizou, all of them i tried so far | 05:44 |
erudeye | i has just install ubuntu | 05:44 |
teferi | at any rate, ajax_, wmute.net/~teferi/evo-mail-notify.py | 05:44 |
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erudeye | n i don't have root password | 05:44 |
teferi | er, http://wmute.net/~teferi/evo-mail-notify.py | 05:44 |
ajax_ | teferi, I'll give it ago | 05:44 |
giant | display: :0.0 screen: 0 | 05:44 |
giant | OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. | 05:44 |
giant | OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9800 Pro Generic | 05:44 |
giant | OpenGL version string: 1.3.4769 (X4.3.0-8.8.25) | 05:44 |
giant | sorry about that | 05:44 |
erudeye | where i can get that pass? | 05:44 |
teferi | just run it and wait for mail to show up in your inbox | 05:44 |
teferi | the indicator will go away if you click on it or start reading a message | 05:44 |
thoreauputic | ajax_: /msg nickserv ghost nickrud <your password> | 05:44 |
Mechcozmo | I've been looking at Ubuntu for a bit as a good Linux distro | 05:44 |
ajax_ | thoreauputic, thanks | 05:44 |
IIIEars | erudeye - ubuntu is a bit different it uses a format similar to Macs | 05:45 |
thoreauputic | ajax_: then you can reclaim your nick | 05:45 |
Mechcozmo | looking at geting into it | 05:45 |
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IIIEars | !rootsudo | 05:45 |
ubotu | rumour has it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo | 05:45 |
elmagozizou | mjkelly93, let me try it | 05:45 |
regeya | can anyone comment on sweetmeats? | 05:45 |
erudeye | hello | 05:45 |
abhayks | is this really the ubuntu IRC famous for its community ever eger to help others ? | 05:45 |
elmagozizou | mjkelly93, and mp3s? | 05:45 |
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thr1ce | abbe80, no | 05:45 |
Mechcozmo | Question: What are the weaknesses of Ubuntu? | 05:45 |
thr1ce | abhayks, no | 05:45 |
mjkelly93 | elmagozizou, havent tried mp3s, i use xmms for that | 05:45 |
erudeye | where i can get my root pass? | 05:45 |
IIIEars | erudeye - check out the link ubotu posted | 05:45 |
thoreauputic | abhayks: yeah, we're a myth ;) | 05:45 |
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regeya | synd, what's your opinion on sweetmeats and sweetbreads? | 05:45 |
synd | regeya, say waht? | 05:45 |
Mechcozmo | alright, lemme repeat that | 05:46 |
synd | regeya, im from the states | 05:46 |
Mechcozmo | Question: What are the weaknesses of Ubuntu? | 05:46 |
nickrud | ah, that works nicely, thanks again, thoreauputic | 05:46 |
erudeye | where is the link? | 05:46 |
synd | Mechcozmo, none | 05:46 |
redguy | !rootsudo | 05:46 |
ubotu | rootsudo is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo | 05:46 |
IIIEars | !rootsudo | 05:46 |
Mechcozmo | i don't believe in software that has no problems | 05:46 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: a very biased community that thinks Ubuntu is strong ;) | 05:46 |
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Mechcozmo | hehe | 05:46 |
abhayks | thrlce: great to know u have time to reply to a stupid question of mine but not to a genuine question | 05:46 |
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Mechcozmo | because I'm looking at going feet-wet with it in terms of Linux | 05:46 |
giant | oh wait a minute | 05:47 |
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Mechcozmo | wondering if I'll outgrow it or somthing | 05:47 |
giant | Hufo's Tunnel is working now | 05:47 |
giant | sweet | 05:47 |
liquidten | abhayks: genuine questions are harder to answer | 05:47 |
Capilano | any idea how to reinstall basic fonts ? | 05:47 |
Capilano | please | 05:47 |
giant | oh well... i'm off to bed... later all | 05:47 |
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Mechcozmo | also want to know how easy it is to screw up | 05:47 |
regeya | synd, but you're familiar with what they are, right? don't you think they're, well, you know, misnamed? | 05:47 |
mjkelly93 | giant, try this command: glxinfo | grep direct | 05:47 |
synd | Mechcozmo, problems are few and far between with ubuntu. at least in comparisons to other linux distros. but for the ones that do exist, #ubuntu is here as is the wiki | 05:47 |
IIIEars | G'nite giant | 05:47 |
abhayks | liquidten: thats true | 05:47 |
mjkelly93 | giant, nevermind then hehe | 05:47 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: the secret is to get to know repositories and apt or synaptic package management - but don't tell anyone! | 05:47 |
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Mechcozmo | since the people i do tech work for are notorious for doing that | 05:47 |
synd | regeya, no, not really. | 05:47 |
Mechcozmo | how is configuration? | 05:47 |
giant | it says direct rendering : yes | 05:47 |
mjkelly93 | anyone out there wanna take a crack at my problems with fglrx for a radeon 9250? | 05:48 |
giant | so I guess it is working | 05:48 |
mjkelly93 | then it should be wroking | 05:48 |
Mechcozmo | a bunch of other distros have differing ways | 05:48 |
teferi | nickrud: you need python-gnome2-dev and python-gnome2-extras-dev | 05:48 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: could you be a bit more vague? | 05:48 |
Mechcozmo | usually involving vi or emacs | 05:48 |
Mechcozmo | yeah | 05:48 |
poutine | Hello, I installed ubuntu moments ago on this laptop, and it freezes right after I enter my user/pass in the screen, and plays that sound with the ubuntu splash | 05:48 |
teferi | and, uh, python2.4-dbus | 05:48 |
giant | then why did Hufo's Smoke lock up but Hufo's tunnel work? | 05:48 |
nickrud | teferi, yes, that is small, and thanks for the links. It'll take a while on my measly pipe | 05:48 |
giant | who knows | 05:48 |
Mechcozmo | our house, all computers have static IPs | 05:48 |
teferi | and then it should just work | 05:48 |
poutine | I checked /var/log/messages and I don't see anything | 05:48 |
Mechcozmo | how hard is that to do? | 05:48 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: generally stuff tends to work out of the box | 05:48 |
giant | not important... I wanted the tunnel anyway | 05:48 |
giant | later all | 05:48 |
Mechcozmo | which is the wrong answer.... | 05:48 |
mjkelly93 | poutine, try grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 05:48 |
teferi | if it doesn't, privmsg me and ill get back to you tomorrow | 05:48 |
teferi | i need sleep | 05:48 |
Mechcozmo | i know it works out of the box | 05:48 |
IIIEars | Mechcozmo - Popular distros come and often go quickly. Ubuntu is Debian. - it'll be around for a long time. - easiest distro yet. | 05:48 |
Mechcozmo | with DHCP and stuff | 05:48 |
SogniX | has anyone had any success using an ultra ata ide addon card with ubuntu? seems ubuntu throws a fit the moment I install an Adaptec IDE card with two storage drives :( | 05:49 |
Mechcozmo | so is there a panel i just open up | 05:49 |
Mechcozmo | and enter network info? | 05:49 |
Mechcozmo | or do i have to dig through a text file? | 05:49 |
elmagozizou | mjkelly93, Hey you know that I use xmms but recently it was frezzing because of the audio thig...so I change it to eSound and it play the files but.... | 05:49 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: for static IPs you can enter stuff during install or hack /etc/network/interfaces | 05:49 |
Mechcozmo | so i do need to use a text editor | 05:49 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: there's a gui networking thing too | 05:49 |
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mjkelly93 | elmagozizou, yeah ya gotta change the output plugin to esound, ya dont like it? | 05:49 |
elmagozizou | mjkelly93, the sound isnt very good...any solutions? | 05:50 |
Mechcozmo | that's what i wanted to know.... | 05:50 |
TokenBad | besides network tools is there anything else in ubuntu that can do like traceroute? | 05:50 |
redguy | Mechcozmo: on install, when dhcp fails you can enter static IPs. Later you would have to edit /etc/network/interfaces | 05:50 |
mjkelly93 | elmagozizou, huh, nope havent heard that one yet | 05:50 |
killapop | Mechcozmo: network-admin gives u a gui to do it thru | 05:50 |
nickrud | teferi, python-gnome2-extras-dev does not pull in python-gnome2-extras, do I need that as well? | 05:50 |
Mechcozmo | see, DHCP is present | 05:50 |
IIIEars | Mechcozmo - i have only a few eeks with linux so a GUI was mandatory. "Firestarter" firewall is a snap. | 05:50 |
poutine | DRI screen init failed, disabling DRI, hmm, should I remove DRI from my xorg.conf, I take it that was successful since it just was disabling it | 05:50 |
elmagozizou | mjkelly93, ok... | 05:50 |
crimsun | elmagozizou: what do you mean it's not very good? | 05:50 |
teferi | nickrud: it's an empty package, but grab it anyway, just in case(future-proofing, natch...) | 05:50 |
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IIIEars | erm "Eeks" - oops . "Weeks" | 05:50 |
Mechcozmo | but all computer that are fixed have static IPs | 05:50 |
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Melechorion | Good morning, guys | 05:50 |
mjkelly93 | elmagozizou, is it only xmms or does the ubuntu sounds sound bad too? | 05:50 |
Mechcozmo | don't need a firewall | 05:50 |
Mechcozmo | have a Linksys router that does fine on it | 05:51 |
ColonelKernel | all my linux boxes, regardless of distro, seem to be having dns resolution lags | 05:51 |
nickrud | ok | 05:51 |
Mechcozmo | can Ubuntu do any network serving? | 05:51 |
ColonelKernel | it takes a bit to get the initial connection made | 05:51 |
poutine | ColonelKernel: Could be your nameservers | 05:51 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: it isn't hard - you just give your IPs, gateway, masks rtc in the install | 05:51 |
DarkSpy | inda n/qui | 05:51 |
Mechcozmo | like Apache, etc | 05:51 |
ColonelKernel | yeah but its not happening in windoze | 05:51 |
mjkelly93 | poutine, i get that error too, i wouldnt sweat that one | 05:51 |
thoreauputic | *etc | 05:51 |
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[2] BoxingFiend | colonel: disable IP6 lookup to speed up the process unless your DNS server supports IP6 | 05:51 |
IIIEars | Mechcozmo - it will enable port forwarding DHCP and other services with a graphical interface. no text editing. - Whew | 05:51 |
Mechcozmo | but if later I need to CHANGE the network info, i obviously don't need to reinstall to change those things | 05:51 |
poutine | mjkelly93: Well any thoughts on how to fix or debug ths? | 05:51 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: you can install apache no problem | 05:51 |
mjkelly93 | poutine, how far does it go? like u get the ubuntu splash screen and all? | 05:51 |
poutine | it shows the strip | 05:52 |
ColonelKernel | joolz - if youre the guy who did those neat CS cheats, thanks for a few years of wasted time :D | 05:52 |
poutine | and it plays the startup sound | 05:52 |
poutine | and then it freezes | 05:52 |
Mechcozmo | Open Office I assume also works nicely? | 05:52 |
poutine | caps lock key stops lighting when I press it | 05:52 |
ColonelKernel | [2] BoxingFiend how do I do that? | 05:52 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: changing static IPs is pretty trivial unless you have a big network | 05:52 |
Mechcozmo | good to hear | 05:52 |
mjkelly93 | poutine, how many of the programs load on that script? all of them? | 05:52 |
Mechcozmo | installation is via apt-get or something? | 05:52 |
hypermodernist | Anybody know where I can find a PHP 5 .deb? | 05:52 |
mjkelly93 | poutine, does it freeze on any of them? did u have any complications during the install? | 05:53 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: apt-get or synaptic (GUI) | 05:53 |
nickrud | teferi, I interrupted an mplayer install earlier, I have about 30min to get all the things in the queue, so, I'll let you know when I've tested it | 05:53 |
poutine | mjkelly93: nothing loads | 05:53 |
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zenrox | ok i have a quick question?? ok how do i mount a scvd mount -t iso9660 -o loop dont work | 05:53 |
poutine | if there is supposed to be icons on that strip | 05:53 |
IIIEars | Mechcozmo - "Bastille" is another good graphical interface for iptables. | 05:53 |
teferi | nickrud: like I said, I'm going to bed | 05:53 |
poutine | it doesn't even get to that | 05:53 |
ColonelKernel | i would google it but im in text mode right now | 05:53 |
ColonelKernel | fresh install | 05:53 |
Mechcozmo | Synaptic is extremely easy to use, I assume? | 05:53 |
aru | very | 05:53 |
hybrid_goth | ColonelKernel: w3m google.com? | 05:53 |
Mechcozmo | I'm pretty much network-admin qualified with OS X and Windows | 05:53 |
Mechcozmo | but i want to get into Linux | 05:54 |
ColonelKernel | w3m? | 05:54 |
mjkelly93 | poutine, yeah there is, like 5 of them are default... hmm id say its some kinda problem with gnome, but i couldnt even guess at it | 05:54 |
Mechcozmo | tried before, hated the distros | 05:54 |
hybrid_goth | ColonelKernel: text browser | 05:54 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: synaptic is quite easy | 05:54 |
ColonelKernel | im not too hot on text browsers | 05:54 |
thoreauputic | !synaptic | 05:54 |
ubotu | I heard synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto | 05:54 |
poutine | I'll try disabling sound | 05:54 |
Mechcozmo | how is installation? | 05:54 |
Mechcozmo | website said easy | 05:54 |
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nickrud | teferi, good night, and, you can find me here most days about this time | 05:54 |
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poutine | I didn't like the installation | 05:54 |
poutine | it lies about progress | 05:55 |
mjkelly93 | poutine, what r u using now? bitchx? | 05:55 |
Mechcozmo | but the computer i'm going to install it on has WinXP on it | 05:55 |
poutine | mjkelly93: irssi | 05:55 |
IIIEars | installing apps is a three mouse click affair with synaptic | 05:55 |
Mechcozmo | but there are 4 partitions | 05:55 |
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Mechcozmo | XP's is NTFS | 05:55 |
Mechcozmo | other 3 are FAT32 | 05:55 |
[2] BoxingFiend | !ip6 | 05:55 |
ubotu | [2] BoxingFiend: I give up, what is it? | 05:55 |
mjkelly93 | poutine, try running a sudo apt-get update | 05:55 |
Mechcozmo | any foreseeable issues? | 05:55 |
La_PaRCa | What driver should I use for an ATI Radeon 9200? | 05:55 |
Mechcozmo | i don't want to loose my XP partition | 05:55 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: ntfs is read-only except with special experimental stuff (captive ntfs) | 05:55 |
Mechcozmo | (almost happened once.... not good) | 05:55 |
kevogod | Mechcozmo: There should be no problem. | 05:55 |
poutine | mjkelly93: I *just* finished the install, and if I was paying attention correctly, it spent hours doing that | 05:55 |
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Mechcozmo | ok | 05:56 |
crimsun | La_PaRCa: either the open-source radeon or fglrx | 05:56 |
IIIEars | Boxingfiend - Be nice to the bot a slender database runs much faster. | 05:56 |
poutine | hmm | 05:56 |
Mechcozmo | so installation should be easy? | 05:56 |
mjkelly93 | poutine, it still needs to upgrade more stuff then like another 60 megs worth for me at least | 05:56 |
mjkelly93 | then sudo apt-get upgrade | 05:56 |
La_PaRCa | crimsun, is fglrx in universe or in the regular repos? | 05:56 |
kevogod | Mechcozmo: It is text-based, but simple. | 05:56 |
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Mechcozmo | that's fine | 05:56 |
crimsun | La_PaRCa: restricted. See wiki/BinaryDriverHowto | 05:56 |
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Melechorion | with windows u can do everything | 05:56 |
nickrud | If I hadn't sworn off programming, this little thing might actually make me want to learn python | 05:56 |
poutine | hmm | 05:57 |
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poutine | brb | 05:57 |
La_PaRCa | crimsun, is restricted on by default? | 05:57 |
mjkelly93 | poutine, ur install took hours? are u on highspeed? | 05:57 |
crimsun | La_PaRCa: yes | 05:57 |
IIIEars | nickrud - infonbot? | 05:57 |
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thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: be aware you can have a maximum of 4 primary partitions | 05:57 |
Melechorion | if u want to learn python help us - www.inselnderwinde.de | 05:57 |
Mechcozmo | that's the number I have | 05:57 |
nickrud | I can actually read it | 05:57 |
Mechcozmo | :-D | 05:57 |
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zenrox | ok i have a quick question?? ok how do i mount a scvd mount -t iso9660 -o loop dont work i am mounting a local iso file | 05:57 |
Mechcozmo | hate that whole partition thing | 05:57 |
mjkelly93 | anyone wanna help with an fglrx problem??? i have the module installed and everything, just need some help with an xorg.log file.... anyone? | 05:57 |
kevin | nickrud: I sore off of programming for one reason; I didn't start using pc's till 5 years ago | 05:58 |
kevogod | Mechcozmo: I assume you are going to format one of those FAT32 partitions as EXT3? | 05:58 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: one of those would need to be an extended partition to fit Linux in | 05:58 |
zenrox | mjkelly93, read the howto on the forums | 05:58 |
Mechcozmo | there are 4 partitions | 05:58 |
kevin | swore | 05:58 |
Mechcozmo | so... shouldn't have an issue | 05:58 |
nickrud | IIIEars, no, http://wmute.net/~teferi/evo-mail-notify.py | 05:58 |
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Mechcozmo | right? | 05:58 |
Melechorion | Windows4ever^^ | 05:58 |
mjkelly93 | zenrox, im very far passed the howto on the forums | 05:58 |
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kevogod | Mechcozmo: You will have to choose a partition to format for Ubuntu. | 05:59 |
nickrud | kevin, lol, I stopped programming nearly 20 years ago | 05:59 |
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Mechcozmo | kevogod: I'll assume that is easy to do and when started into XP nothing will happen to it? | 05:59 |
kevogod | It will not be FAT32 after you format it. | 05:59 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: if they are all primaries, one of them would need to be formatted for linux | 05:59 |
Mechcozmo | thats fine | 05:59 |
zenrox | mjkelly93, the howto will tell you what to edit | 05:59 |
IIIEars | nickrud - that would be handy | 05:59 |
mjkelly93 | zenrox, if u would like to take a look at how far passed i am: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49526 | 05:59 |
Mechcozmo | dont care if it gets reformatted... not doing much anyways | 05:59 |
Zerboxx | thoreauputic: When you have a chance, mind answering some partition based questions for me? | 05:59 |
kevogod | Mechcozmo: Windows XP will work fine. | 05:59 |
Mechcozmo | actually partitioned it with this in mind | 05:59 |
Mechcozmo | hehe | 05:59 |
thoreauputic | Zerboxx: just sk and if someone knows they will answer | 05:59 |
thoreauputic | *ask | 06:00 |
mjkelly93 | zenrox, its not about editing... the modules is reading a device at pci bus 1:2:1 and 1:2:0... when my xorg.conf only points at 1:2:0 | 06:00 |
[2] BoxingFiend | !interface | 06:00 |
ubotu | [2] BoxingFiend: No idea | 06:00 |
kevogod | Ubuntu adds Windows XP to the boot list in GRUB automatically. | 06:00 |
Mechcozmo | XP will be fine, but it wiped my HFS+ USB thumbdrive once without asking me | 06:00 |
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erudeyeidee | i can't get my root user | 06:00 |
ColonelKernel | so what was the solution to my ip6 problem? | 06:00 |
erudeyeidee | pass | 06:00 |
erudeyeidee | where i can get? | 06:00 |
Mechcozmo | will it do that to the partition? | 06:00 |
ColonelKernel | !ipv6 | 06:00 |
ubotu | ColonelKernel: Are you smoking crack? | 06:00 |
kevin | nickrud: if I had the understanding of even one program fro programming I might give it a shot but.... you know... dislexia and programming don't mix and match too well | 06:00 |
ColonelKernel | no, just weed | 06:00 |
erudeyeidee | ubotu | 06:00 |
zenrox | mjkelly93, then tell xorg to use 1:2:1 | 06:00 |
erudeyeidee | give me the link again | 06:00 |
zenrox | thats probly your vid card | 06:00 |
Melechorion | but u have to install windows first, than ubuntu | 06:00 |
Mechcozmo | its ok | 06:00 |
mjkelly93 | zenrox, but my card is on 1:2:0 | 06:00 |
Mechcozmo | XP is already installed | 06:00 |
Zerboxx | Well I'm currently have XP on it's own, 2 partitions (C:\ and D:\ for all my docs n music n videos), I want to remove XP, replace it with Ubuntu, and change my D:\ to my /home, how easy will this be to do? | 06:00 |
zenrox | mjkelly93, you look at the xorg log file | 06:01 |
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kevogod | You don't have to. You can add the Chainloader stuff into Grub manually. | 06:01 |
zenrox | ?? | 06:01 |
Mechcozmo | isn't GRUB the bootloader? | 06:01 |
mjkelly93 | zenrox, yes i have plenty of times | 06:01 |
IIIEars | Mechcozmo - My windows installation gets virus infected so frequently and it's reinstall fdisks everything. using a seperate Disk for ubuntu is a good idea | 06:01 |
zenrox | mjkelly93, ok | 06:01 |
Mechcozmo | it does that automagically | 06:01 |
kevogod | Mechcozmo: Yes, it is. | 06:01 |
erudeyeidee | hello | 06:01 |
zenrox | mjkelly93, any thage else like errors | 06:01 |
kevogod | Mechcozmo: I was just saying you could install Windows second. | 06:01 |
Mechcozmo | ok | 06:01 |
erudeyeidee | i has just install ubuntu n got no root pass | 06:01 |
erudeyeidee | where i can get that? | 06:02 |
Zerboxx | erudeyeidee: It's your main user's password | 06:02 |
zenrox | mjkelly93, i need to know the error it spits out at you | 06:02 |
Mechcozmo | IIIEars: i don't have a seperate disk, sorry, but I rarely reinstall XP | 06:02 |
kevogod | erudeyeidee: Ubuntu uses the Sudo setup. | 06:02 |
mjkelly93 | zenrox, there are no EE errors in the xorg.log file besides one that talks about DRI and thats not relevant | 06:02 |
Mechcozmo | its fresh right now at least | 06:02 |
Mechcozmo | :-p | 06:02 |
nickrud | kevin, I hear you | 06:02 |
kevogod | erudeyeidee: The root account is disabled. | 06:02 |
kevogod | erudeyeidee: It uses the Mac OS X type of security. | 06:02 |
ColonelKernel | brb | 06:02 |
kevin | erudeyeidee: sudo su and then password for user | 06:02 |
mjkelly93 | zenrox, my beliefe is that the computer hangs before it spits those errors out, like a hard hang that i cant alt ctrl f1 out of | 06:02 |
Mechcozmo | GRUB is configured automagically? | 06:02 |
kevogod | Mechcozmo: Yes. | 06:02 |
zenrox | mjkelly93, coment out the line for dri | 06:02 |
erudeyeidee | how? | 06:02 |
Mechcozmo | alright | 06:02 |
erudeyeidee | sow sudo? | 06:02 |
Melechorion | now i'll go to the baker -.- | 06:02 |
erudeyeidee | gksudo? | 06:02 |
Mechcozmo | well the torrent is sucking it down now | 06:02 |
IIIEars | I'm new to linux but beginning to come around to the idea of a linux only home | 06:02 |
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zenrox | mjkelly93, didja do a modprob | 06:03 |
kevin | in a terminal window | 06:03 |
mjkelly93 | zenrox, i have that error right now in this loading of X11 and its running fine | 06:03 |
kevin | type in sudo su | 06:03 |
jorgp | anyone know why \C<Up> would not bind correctly in mutt, #mutt is dead | 06:03 |
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mjkelly93 | zenrox, ill do u one better and show the part of my kern.log here: | 06:03 |
Mechcozmo | 350KiB/s | 06:03 |
nickrud | kevin, better is sudo -s | 06:03 |
zenrox | mjkelly93, past in in a msg to me | 06:03 |
Mechcozmo | faster than their server? | 06:03 |
kevin | oh, okay I will remember that nickrud | 06:03 |
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erudeyeidee | so, can i get my root pass with current user? | 06:04 |
Mechcozmo | what's the format that Ubuntu uses? | 06:04 |
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Zerboxx | I currently am running an XP only box, 2 partitions (C:\ (windows), and D:\ (Docs)) I want to replace C:\ with ubuntu, and change d:\ with /home, so I keep all the documents/music/videos I have on that partition. Is this possible to do, and if so, is it "relatively" easy? | 06:04 |
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kevogod | Mechcozmo: Format as in what? | 06:04 |
jasoncohen | i think i asked this before, but does anyone know why the boot-admin program isn't packaged with gnome-system-tools like it is on debian? | 06:04 |
Mechcozmo | sorry, hard drive format | 06:04 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: file system can be ext3, reiserfs, jfs, xfs | 06:04 |
Mechcozmo | ok | 06:04 |
kevogod | The default is ext3. | 06:04 |
kevin | yeyou are root, just type in sudo -s in a terminal and it will ask for pass and you type in your user pass | 06:05 |
Mechcozmo | i'll stick with that then... | 06:05 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, turned back in breezy | 06:05 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: most people accept the default ext3 | 06:05 |
Mechcozmo | is there are major difference between those four however? | 06:05 |
kevogod | I personally like ReiserFS. | 06:05 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, no idea why it wasn't packaged | 06:05 |
IIIEars | Jasoncohen - sounds interesting do you know the app name? | 06:05 |
Burgundavia | Mechcozmo, stick with ext3, it is more stable | 06:05 |
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Mechcozmo | ok | 06:05 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: this is material for holy wars ;) | 06:05 |
kevogod | ReiserFS is the fastest! | 06:05 |
Mechcozmo | hehe | 06:05 |
ugo | yeah ReiserFS is cool | 06:05 |
Burgundavia | Reiserfs4 may be the fastest, but it is also the newest | 06:06 |
Mechcozmo | i was thinking about HFS, HFS+, and HFSX | 06:06 |
thoreauputic | kevogod: minix forever!! | 06:06 |
sizzam | im trying to compile and install nzbget. during ./configure, i fail with the following: checking for inflate in -lz... no | 06:06 |
Mechcozmo | when you said that | 06:06 |
elmagozizou | Is it posible to play mp3s on xine? | 06:06 |
jasoncohen | IIIEars, it's gnome's tool for administering grub/lilo | 06:06 |
Mechcozmo | so was wondering | 06:06 |
sizzam | any idea how to get around that? | 06:06 |
IIIEars | thoreauputic - reiserfs and emacs. - sly grin | 06:06 |
jasoncohen | and it's called boot-admin | 06:06 |
ugo | very good for laptops too | 06:06 |
elmagozizou | i try but it close the program | 06:06 |
Mechcozmo | hmmm | 06:06 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, you sure, i just checked breezy and it's not showing up | 06:06 |
emX | Zerboxx: you shouldn't mount a Windows drive as your home, although you could easily mount or link to it from *within* your home directory | 06:06 |
joolz | ColonelKerne: "CS cheats"? | 06:06 |
Mechcozmo | how well does Ubuntu run on older hardware? | 06:06 |
thoreauputic | elmagozizou: xine will play just about anything | 06:06 |
nickrud | kevin, this time I was right, but, look at my advice thru a lens :) | 06:06 |
kevogod | Mechcozmo: It should work fine. | 06:06 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: that depends... | 06:06 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, shows up on my machine | 06:06 |
kevin | ummmmmm okay | 06:06 |
Mechcozmo | PII 350MHz? | 06:07 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=boot-admin&searchmode=searchfilesanddirs&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386 | 06:07 |
Zerboxx | emX: I don't want to mount it as my home, I want to change it from ntfs to ext3 so it can be my home, but I want to keep all the files on that partition | 06:07 |
[2] BoxingFiend | mech: i run ubuntu on a p3 833 and 384 megs of ram at work... works well | 06:07 |
Mechcozmo | thanks | 06:07 |
emX | Zerboxx: you can do that, but you'd have to first copy all the files off of it, then reformat it, then copy the files back. | 06:07 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: on really old hardware you need to use lighter apps and window managers | 06:07 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, it is part of gnome-system-tools | 06:07 |
Mechcozmo | i have a spare PIII 500MHz 384MB (or is it 512MB?) | 06:07 |
[2] BoxingFiend | mech: p2 should be fine, just get a 32megs or more pci nvidia graphic card and you will be fine | 06:07 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: should be fine | 06:07 |
elmagozizou | thoreauputic, yeap but mp3s close the program...thats why im asking | 06:07 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, yeah- but if you check that link i pasted you'll see there's no boot-admin binary | 06:07 |
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Mechcozmo | and a PII 350MHz 64MB RAM | 06:08 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, there is on my machine | 06:08 |
kevogod | You might want to consider XFCE if it is antique. | 06:08 |
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Burgundavia | jasoncohen, packages.ubuntu.com sometimes lags behind | 06:08 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: 64MB RAM isn't enough for gnome | 06:08 |
synd | Mechcozmo, i have it run awesome on a p3 650 with 128MB | 06:08 |
kevogod | (as the Desktop Environment) | 06:08 |
Mechcozmo | ok | 06:08 |
[2] BoxingFiend | i would use fluxbox on an older machine | 06:08 |
Zerboxx | emx: Alright, not too tough to do, I assume, how is partitioning handled in ubuntu? or is it just as "dangerous" as it is made to seem in xp? | 06:08 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, dpkg -L gnome-system-tools shows /usr/bin/boot-admin ? | 06:08 |
IIIEars | Mechcozmo - Fluxbox and XFCE4 are popular and can be innstalled using synaptic | 06:08 |
synd | Mechcozmo, but use XFCE4 or flux | 06:08 |
La_PaRCa | ubotu tell me about codecs | 06:08 |
Mechcozmo | alright | 06:08 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, yes | 06:08 |
Mechcozmo | i'll get used to Ubuntu then try those other ones | 06:08 |
synd | ubuntu itself isnt a DM | 06:09 |
[2] BoxingFiend | la_parca unbuntuguide.org has a nice write up on codec | 06:09 |
emX | Zerboxx: partitioning is always 'dangerous', insofar as you can easily goof up your data -- be sure to back it up first. | 06:09 |
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kevin | nickrud: me thinks me wife is ready for bed, night and see you all tomorrow | 06:09 |
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synd | Mechcozmo, gnome is the DM on ubuntu | 06:09 |
Mechcozmo | synd: eh? DM? | 06:09 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, i guess it does lag behind- see http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=gnome-system-tools&searchmode=filelist&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386 | 06:09 |
Burgundavia | [2] BoxingFiend, please don't recommend the ubuntuguide | 06:09 |
Mechcozmo | ah | 06:09 |
Mechcozmo | desktop manager | 06:09 |
synd | Mechcozmo, desktop manager | 06:09 |
Zerboxx_ | emx: if you replied to my last comment, I didn't see it, sorry | 06:09 |
Mechcozmo | gotit | 06:09 |
emX | Zerboxx: partitioning is always 'dangerous', insofar as you can easily goof up your data -- be sure to back it up first. | 06:09 |
IIIEars | G'nite - kevin. | 06:09 |
La_PaRCa | [2] BoxingFiend, thanks, but I just needed something that I knew was specifically there | 06:09 |
Aegir | Well, GNOME is a Window manager. GDM is the Desktop manager | 06:09 |
Zerboxx_ | emx: thanks! | 06:09 |
Burgundavia | La_PaRCa, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats | 06:09 |
Aegir | But they're kinda one and the same anyway | 06:10 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: there's a whole bunch of alternatives - see http://xwinman.org | 06:10 |
Mechcozmo | alright | 06:10 |
parabolize | Aegir: gnome isn't a window manager | 06:10 |
nickrud | kevin, good night | 06:10 |
identp | has anyone installed the new KDE 3.4.1 ? | 06:10 |
Zerboxx_ | emX: On a clean install, approximately how much room does Ubuntu take up? | 06:10 |
IIIEars | thoreauputic - nice link | 06:10 |
Aegir | parabolize, Yeah, spose so | 06:10 |
crimsun | identp: see the topic of #kubuntu | 06:10 |
synd | Zerboxx_, depends | 06:10 |
Burgundavia | Zerboxx_, 1.8 gb | 06:10 |
Aegir | But GDM is the desktop manager | 06:10 |
Aegir | :) | 06:10 |
Zerboxx_ | Burgundavia: Thanks :D | 06:10 |
parabolize | metacity is | 06:10 |
synd | Zerboxx_, default is almost 2g | 06:10 |
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emX | Zerboxx_: i don't usualy use the deafult; if space is a concern, it can easily come in below 1GB | 06:11 |
Aegir | parabolize, I stand corrected, I often refer to GTK, Metacity, and the software itself as Gnome, and being the Window manager. Tad incorrect, but eh. | 06:11 |
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identp | crimsun, yes that is what prompted me to do so, i am having trouble installing and #kubuntu is pretty quiet | 06:11 |
Mechcozmo | well, Ubuntu if i know it to be correct, is like the other Linux distros where you have the shell behind it all | 06:11 |
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Mechcozmo | and the DM is a program | 06:12 |
Zerboxx_ | emX: If I were doing a clean insatll, space isn't a problem, but the way I have things set up for my XP box, it may be....I just don't want to have to rip all these cds again | 06:12 |
jasoncohen | La_PaRCa, if you want info on how to easily install multimedia codecs see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia | 06:12 |
Mechcozmo | which runs other programs(?) | 06:12 |
IIIEars | ubotu windowmanagers is http://xwinman.org/ Feel the power of open software and choices. | 06:12 |
ubotu | okay, IIIEars | 06:12 |
HrdwrBoB | Mechcozmo: init runs which runs other programs | 06:12 |
emX | Zerboxx_: can you back the ripped files up to DVD or a different computer via the network? | 06:12 |
Mechcozmo | ok | 06:12 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: gdm and kdm are kind of login managers for the GUI | 06:12 |
La_PaRCa | god, I ask about codecs because I need the link to the repositories article and I get flooded. | 06:12 |
Mechcozmo | ok... | 06:12 |
Zerboxx_ | emX: Not until September | 06:12 |
HrdwrBoB | Mechcozmo: init starts all the daemons etc, including GDM, which starts X which starts gnome-session which starts metacity+gnome-panel etc | 06:12 |
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Mechcozmo | got it | 06:13 |
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jasoncohen | Burgundavia, i wonder when boot-admin was added. i don't see anything in the changelog | 06:13 |
Mechcozmo | OS/2 was good... but not good enough | 06:13 |
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IIIEars | <<- still laments the passing of CPM? - grin | 06:13 |
memoryleek | any k3b users have problems burning .iso images?? | 06:13 |
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emX | Zerboxx_: i see. | 06:14 |
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poutine | mjkelly93: I ran the update, to no avail | 06:14 |
Mechcozmo | <<--still mourns the Happy Mac | 06:14 |
Zerboxx_ | Another question regarding a fresh defaul isntall of ubuntu, how does the auto-partitioning work? how much goes to swap, and all that? (if there is a %) | 06:14 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, it was always there, just left out at compile time | 06:14 |
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poutine | I selected "session" and clicked failsafe gnome, and it froze right after I clicked it too | 06:14 |
kevogod | memoryleeK: Works fine for me. | 06:14 |
IIIEars | memoryleak - windows prefers the joliet extensions for it's CDs | 06:14 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, and no reason was mentioned for leaving it out? | 06:14 |
mjkelly93 | poutine, why did it take u so long to install? | 06:14 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, no idea | 06:14 |
memoryleek | kevo did you change any settings | 06:14 |
memoryleek | III | 06:14 |
memoryleek | IIIEars: what's that? | 06:14 |
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nickrud | Mechcozmo, look into /etc/rcS.d, which runs before /etc/rc2.d | 06:15 |
Mechcozmo | for? | 06:15 |
Mechcozmo | nickrud: for what? | 06:15 |
nickrud | IIIEars, you really that old ;) | 06:15 |
poutine | mjkelly93: because I'm on wireless | 06:15 |
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nickrud | Mechcozmo, for the things that init runs | 06:15 |
mjkelly93 | poutine, ahh i c | 06:16 |
Mechcozmo | oh | 06:16 |
IIIEars | another solid reason i use gnomebaker - musta burned a dozen coasers with the wrong options ( i'm new - lol) | 06:16 |
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IIIEars | my first computer was an "Eagle II" | 06:16 |
Mechcozmo | my first was a Mac Plus | 06:16 |
poutine | This is a HP pavilion zv6000US, AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2ghz w/ 512 megs ram, 128 dedicated ATI radeon xpress 200m | 06:16 |
poutine | if it helps | 06:16 |
nickrud | IIIEars, that thing was not even ibm compatible, if I remember right | 06:16 |
IIIEars | got a commodore 64 a bit later | 06:16 |
memoryleek | my first puter was an atari...but i was about 3 at the time | 06:17 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, I suspect the reason is that is not the most user-friendly app | 06:17 |
poutine | Apple IIgs here | 06:17 |
Orborde | I need help setting up a Win98-Ubuntu network over a crossover cable. | 06:17 |
IIIEars | nope - worse neither was it a main stream CPM - lol | 06:17 |
mjkelly93 | poutine, i really dont know what to tell ya u can try a grep EE /var/log/* | 06:17 |
nickrud | ah, the atari 800, my second | 06:17 |
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regeya | o_O | 06:17 |
mjkelly93 | see if anything pops out there | 06:17 |
regeya | a crossover cable! the important thing is to wire the cable correctly. | 06:17 |
enum | question.. I have windows 2000 pro located on /dev/sda2.. I added the approipriate lines to lilo.conf, and I get "error loading opertating system" note: this was a cut and past from my previous linux os ( same partitioning ) | 06:17 |
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regeya | thoreauputic, you're totally old. ;-) | 06:17 |
Mechcozmo | it was external | 06:17 |
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poutine | nothing :( | 06:18 |
thoreauputic | regeya: yep | 06:18 |
Mechcozmo | 100MB of pure space | 06:18 |
nickrud | the best keyboard, except for the clicky ibm one | 06:18 |
Mechcozmo | 8MHz of power | 06:18 |
Mechcozmo | nah | 06:18 |
Mechcozmo | the first Macs had great keyboard which made springy noises | 06:18 |
mjkelly93 | poutine, there was none at all? | 06:18 |
Orborde | regeya: Yeah, I messed that up at first. Now they're talking to each other, but I'm not getting Fun Windoze Services. | 06:18 |
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regeya | and I feel old because some "computer professionals" have never heard of a TRS-80 | 06:18 |
IIIEars | my first linux was a stab at RH 5.0 (it lasted a few hours before bieng erased with great prejudice.) | 06:18 |
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regeya | apple logo! | 06:18 |
regeya | damn. | 06:19 |
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Orborde | Oh, wait. Scratch that. It works now. JK. Ignore me. I'm an idiot. | 06:19 |
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La_PaRCa | You kids these days, when I was young we didnt have "keyboards" | 06:19 |
Madpilot | I was about 4 or 5 when Dad got that... | 06:19 |
IIIEars | Madpilot - lol | 06:19 |
thoreauputic | regeya: affectionately known as Trash-80 ;) | 06:19 |
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nashife | is anyone here willing to give me (linux newbie girl) some one-on-one help figuring out if I have bad blocks on my hard discs? Ubuntu won't reliably start up and I don't know what it means to unmount my disk in order to run fsck. the friend I usually ask to help me is frustrated with how I don't know anything and don't understand what he means when he tells me to do something, so I'm looking for someone else who's patient and could | 06:19 |
nashife | help me learn how to use badblocks or fsck. | 06:19 |
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IIIEars | TRS-80 - $2,700 nicely equipped | 06:19 |
eltino | a girl asking for one on one? | 06:19 |
memoryleek | lol | 06:19 |
Mechcozmo | lol | 06:19 |
poutine | mjkelly93: just the DRI thing I said earlier | 06:19 |
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Madpilot | eltino: can it. | 06:20 |
nashife | eltino, yeah one-on-one | 06:20 |
nashife | haha | 06:20 |
mjkelly93 | ok well that kinda makes things a little hard when theres no errors to show | 06:20 |
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mjkelly93 | maybe try shutting down X and restarting it? | 06:20 |
jasoncohen | nashife, when you boot up, does fsck say that your file system is corrupted and needs to be checked? | 06:20 |
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IIIEars | a 20 megabyte hard drive was vast | 06:21 |
nickrud | IIIEars, lol, I put over 3,500 into my atari 800, a 93k drive, a color monitor, and a printer :) | 06:21 |
Mechcozmo | i have 100MB of space | 06:21 |
Zerboxx | emX: Thanks for your help, I think what I'll do is wait until I can..."borrow" a friends computer to transfer files over, then clean install, and take'em back | 06:21 |
Mechcozmo | 9" B&W monitor | 06:21 |
Mechcozmo | 800KB floppies were the limit though | 06:21 |
nashife | jasoncohen, I don't think so. i would have remembered the word 'corrupted' or soemthing. it doesn't boot up at all for a while. hangs at "starting ubuntu". then randomly it continues after i power down. last time it rebooted, gave me an error I didn't write down, and dropped me into a root user prompt. (!!!) | 06:21 |
nickrud | Mechcozmo, an S100 bus machine? | 06:22 |
Mechcozmo | i must leave | 06:22 |
Mechcozmo | lol | 06:22 |
jasoncohen | nashife, when did this start happening? | 06:22 |
Mechcozmo | no nickrud | 06:22 |
IIIEars | visicalc was a ram/processor hog. (most jpg files are larger than it is) | 06:22 |
Mechcozmo | Mac Plus | 06:22 |
nashife | then i typed 'exit' and it finally loaded the rest of ubuntu. | 06:22 |
nashife | it started this today. | 06:22 |
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Madpilot | a friend still has a 650Mb drive in daily use. You could fit the *entire* thing on one CD... | 06:22 |
Mechcozmo | 1MB of RAM, 8MHz 68000, 800KB floppy drive | 06:22 |
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nashife | before today, it would occaisionally restart randomly and I thought it was overheating... so I have a new fan and i'm watching the temp | 06:22 |
nickrud | Mechcozmo, k | 06:22 |
Mechcozmo | yup | 06:22 |
Mechcozmo | 100MB external SCSI drive | 06:23 |
Mechcozmo | it still runs | 06:23 |
nashife | but it rebooted randomly today, and that's when it wouldn't boot up successfully | 06:23 |
Mechcozmo | i have it right here | 06:23 |
Mechcozmo | :-) | 06:23 |
IIIEars | Madpilot - thats cool. - You can't wear them out. | 06:23 |
Madpilot | nashife: I had something similar happen. turned out to be a bad motherboard | 06:23 |
thoreauputic | Mechcozmo: luxury ;-) | 06:23 |
emX | Zerboxx: ok; good luck. | 06:23 |
Mechcozmo | no kiddin' | 06:23 |
nickrud | Mechcozmo, I can remember envying you | 06:23 |
Mechcozmo | i must leave | 06:23 |
Mechcozmo | after the torrent is over my Powerbook is taking a sleep | 06:23 |
Mechcozmo | nickrud: my friend's first computer was a K2 | 06:23 |
nashife | Madpilot, yick... bad motherboard...? it's possible for me. all my hardware is pretty old and basically parts from friends | 06:23 |
slave | how do you burn .iso file to cd "setup for installation cd" ? | 06:23 |
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Mechcozmo | but by that time i had the fastest video card on the block | 06:24 |
Mechcozmo | including his | 06:24 |
La_PaRCa | slave, right click->burn to cd | 06:24 |
nashife | so, can someone help me learn how to use fsck? | 06:24 |
jasoncohen | nashife, and what did your friend tell you to do. sounds like you need to run fsck from a failsafe mode | 06:24 |
Mechcozmo | nashlife: don't fsck unprotected! | 06:24 |
Mechcozmo | gnight everybody | 06:24 |
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anggie_aqr | hi | 06:24 |
Mechcozmo | (conversation dies) | 06:24 |
Madpilot | nashife: ouch. mine was brand-new and still covered by warrenty, thank Dog... | 06:24 |
Mechcozmo | (damnit i always do that) | 06:24 |
slave | La_PaRCA, thanks ! let me try out | 06:25 |
anggie_aqr | how to find out our ubuntu version, iam newbie linux either ubuntu | 06:25 |
nashife | Madpilot, he told me to go into 'single user mode' and run it. but i don't know what that means, and he got annoyed with me when I asked him to step-by-step explain it. | 06:25 |
nashife | so i came here. | 06:25 |
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thoreauputic | anggie_aqr: type cat /etc/issue in a terminal | 06:25 |
nickrud | nashife, telinit 1 will get you single user mode | 06:25 |
nashife | er, that last msg was for jasoncohen | 06:25 |
anggie_aqr | ok i`ll try | 06:25 |
Madpilot | nashife: if it is hardware, you're out of luck. but try fsck, it won't hurt. | 06:26 |
nickrud | *sudo telinit 1 | 06:26 |
nalioth | nashife: there is a hard drive monitoring suite, if you want to look at that "smartmontoold" | 06:26 |
thoreauputic | anggie_aqr: to get a terminal right click the desktop and choose it from the menu that pops up | 06:26 |
nalioth | crap | 06:26 |
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nalioth | damn i'm slow | 06:26 |
IcemanV9 | ubuntu -version doesn't work?? :p | 06:27 |
nickrud | there's a lot of lag right now | 06:27 |
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anggie_aqr | its reply no such file or directory, thore\ | 06:27 |
abarbaccia | hey guys, are some of the ubuntu repositories down? | 06:27 |
anggie_aqr | sorry i got typos with your nick | 06:27 |
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nickrud | abarbaccia, the us ones seem to always be donw | 06:27 |
thoreauputic | anggie_aqr: are you sure you typed it right? | 06:27 |
Burgundavia | abarbaccia, the us ones are iffy right now | 06:27 |
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anggie_aqr | yes \ | 06:28 |
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thoreauputic | anggie_aqr: cat /etc/issue | 06:28 |
nashife | eeep. someone could have told me what that was going to do... | 06:28 |
abarbaccia | alright - thanks guys - just making sure its not my connection.... | 06:28 |
thoreauputic | anggie_aqr: well, if it's ubuntu that file must exist :) | 06:28 |
anggie_aqr | Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l | 06:28 |
ColonelKernel | im still having problems with initial DNS resolution on things, its taking a bit | 06:28 |
thoreauputic | anggie_aqr: aha | 06:28 |
anggie_aqr | thats worked | 06:28 |
ColonelKernel | its almost instantaneous on windoze | 06:28 |
thoreauputic | anggie_aqr: OK that's current | 06:28 |
crimsun | anggie_aqr: lsb_release -a | 06:28 |
nickrud | nashife, what's 'that'? | 06:28 |
ColonelKernel | not so good at all in ubuntu | 06:29 |
anggie_aqr | the mean, i have latest version or what? | 06:29 |
[2] BoxingFiend | colonel: you have try disabling ip6 in firefox? | 06:29 |
ksmurf | ok I wrote a script and made it u+x and placed it in the init.d folder and did an update ..defaults99. The script won't start but will start in sessions? anyone know what I'm doing wrong? | 06:29 |
thoreauputic | crimsun: canonically correct but I neer remember it :) | 06:29 |
nashife | someone here just told me that a command like tinit 1 or something would put me in single user mode... and I didn't know what that would do, so I tried it... | 06:29 |
nalioth | nashife: are you concerned with your hard drive? | 06:29 |
ColonelKernel | I have - this is not a firefox thing, its a system wide thing | 06:29 |
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nickrud | ksmurf, may I pm you? | 06:29 |
SDFH_Linux | how you get kde desktop | 06:29 |
ksmurf | yes | 06:29 |
nashife | nalioth, yeah i'm worried. I can't afford to replace much, so I want to scan it and make sure it's usable... or start looking for a cheap replacement. | 06:30 |
anggie_aqr | thoreauputic: is this ubuntu 5.04 is the lattest version? | 06:30 |
[2] BoxingFiend | do a cat /etc/modprobe.d/aliases under net-pf-10 change from ip6 to off and reboot | 06:30 |
thoreauputic | anggie_aqr: yes | 06:30 |
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nashife | so, what was that command again to get into single user mode? that kills everything except for root right? | 06:30 |
thoreauputic | anggie_aqr: except for the unstable development version | 06:30 |
nashife | i'll write it down this time | 06:30 |
nalioth | nashife: install "smartmontools" and run 'smartctl' | 06:30 |
anggie_aqr | so the mean, i can connect my usb flash disc automatically (no need mount manually), right? | 06:31 |
nalioth | nashife: smartctl will read the S.M.A.R.T data from your HD | 06:31 |
thoreauputic | nashife: sudo telinit 1 | 06:31 |
ColonelKernel | alias net-pf-10 ipv6 off <--- did that already | 06:31 |
[2] BoxingFiend | colonel no should read alias net-pf-10 off | 06:31 |
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nashife | nalioth, is smartctl gui? | 06:32 |
ColonelKernel | DOH | 06:32 |
ColonelKernel | thanks | 06:32 |
thoreauputic | anggie_aqr: usb usually just works, yes | 06:32 |
nalioth | nashife: no it is terminal | 06:32 |
nashife | nalioth, what's different about it vs fsck? | 06:32 |
anggie_aqr | thanks for your help thoreauputic | 06:32 |
thoreauputic | anggie_aqr: no problem :) | 06:32 |
nashife | can i use it from my regular session? or do i also need to be in single user mode? | 06:33 |
anggie_aqr | oh yeah, once again, where can i d/l ubuntu version for live cd? | 06:33 |
nalioth | nashife: S.M.A.R.T hard drives keep a record of faults and operating status to an onboard recorder | 06:33 |
anggie_aqr | theres a live cd, isnt it? | 06:33 |
nalioth | nashife: fsck checks data integrity | 06:33 |
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nalioth | nashife: smartctl can be run anywhere | 06:33 |
parabolize | I am having trouble with a UMS device on a specific computer. I am searching for somebody with the same errors but can't find anyone. Here is my post on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49597 | 06:34 |
nashife | so, what is smartctl used for? it's not for checking integrity? it just logs stuff? | 06:34 |
anggie_aqr | is there any live cd version? | 06:34 |
nashife | er, smartmontools? | 06:34 |
anggie_aqr | like knoppix? | 06:34 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, i just compiled gnome-system-tools from breezy and installed it but boot-admin isn't installed | 06:34 |
IIIEars | anggie_aqr - yes there is | 06:34 |
thoreauputic | anggie_aqr: yes | 06:34 |
anggie_aqr | thank you everyone | 06:34 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, what version of gnome-system-tools do you have? | 06:34 |
Madpilot | anggie_aqr: yes. ubuntu.com | 06:34 |
anggie_aqr | you`re so helpfull | 06:34 |
nalioth | nashife: smartctl basically has the HD bring out its log of HARDWARE status | 06:35 |
anggie_aqr | happy helping | 06:35 |
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nalioth | nashife: smartctl will tell you if your HD is having a hardware failure | 06:35 |
bluefoxicy | does bugzilla.ubuntu.com contain no data for anyone else | 06:35 |
IIIEars | anggie_aqr - We certainly try - if you want surly you need to try the #RedHat channel. - lol | 06:35 |
bluefoxicy | it's frequently down for me. | 06:35 |
nashife | nalioth, ok. so I should run those tools before running fsck? or instead of? | 06:35 |
La_PaRCa | where is Xorg.conf located? | 06:35 |
nalioth | IIIEars: i thought it was #debians turn this week for "surly" | 06:35 |
nalioth | nashife: run both | 06:36 |
crimsun | bluefoxicy: definitely contains data for me | 06:36 |
parabolize | /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 06:36 |
nalioth | nashife: they complement each other | 06:36 |
IIIEars | nalioth - Oops - erm i didn't get the memo | 06:36 |
mmc_ | greetings on the channel... i'm new to IRC so... i have an ubuntu config question if anyone has time | 06:36 |
[2] BoxingFiend | what sup mmc | 06:36 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, 1.3.0 | 06:36 |
nalioth | mmc_: ask away | 06:36 |
mmc_ | boxing and nalioth... i want to hook up an "old school" iomega paralell port zip drive | 06:36 |
mmc_ | not sure where to start | 06:37 |
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nalioth | mmc_: first thing is to plug it in :) | 06:37 |
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mmc_ | nalioth... k... not quite THAT noobs... <grin> | 06:37 |
bluefoxicy | ok got it. | 06:38 |
IIIEars | mmc_ - then maybe lspci - l - is that right? | 06:38 |
nalioth | mmc_: ubuntu will either 'see' it and mount whatever disk you put in, or it won't and you'll have to configurate | 06:38 |
IIIEars | Ah well - i am a newb - never mind | 06:38 |
IIIEars | G'nite | 06:38 |
mmc_ | nalioth... would it mount to /mnt??? cause nothing there | 06:39 |
barlas | G'morning IIIEars :-p | 06:39 |
[2] BoxingFiend | after plugging it in, under System -> Admin -> Device Manager, under the zip drive, Advance tab what /dev/hd?? is it listed as | 06:39 |
nalioth | mmc_: ubuntu mounts most things (in my experience) to /media | 06:39 |
mmc_ | let me chk... brb | 06:39 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, i installed 1.3.0 on hoary and i don't have a boot-admin | 06:40 |
jasoncohen | i removed hoary's gnome-system-tools and built a new package with checkinstall | 06:40 |
bluefoxicy | there, bug #12772 submitted. | 06:40 |
[2] BoxingFiend | anyknow if the original zip drive still uses ppa module or imm? | 06:40 |
bluefoxicy | doesn't this channel have a bot that states new bugs :/ | 06:41 |
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mmc_ | nothing listed under device manager | 06:41 |
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nalioth | mmc_: i see you are in good hands with [2] BoxingFiend | 06:41 |
[2] BoxingFiend | do a lsmod | grep "imm|ppa" | 06:41 |
mmc_ | nalioth... thanks and peace to u, brother | 06:42 |
bimberi | [2] BoxingFiend: ppa (mine's the parallel port model) | 06:42 |
mmc_ | boxingfiend... let me try that lsmod... | 06:42 |
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[2] BoxingFiend | wow... jazip package includes a nice gui part of universe | 06:43 |
benplaut | wow... it's quiet in here today... | 06:43 |
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mmc_ | got no response to lsmod | 06:44 |
thoreauputic | benplaut: a temporary calm :) | 06:44 |
mmc_ | boxingfiend... what's jazip | 06:44 |
nickrud | a lull between the wonderful storms | 06:44 |
[2] BoxingFiend | do you have universe unlocked under /etc/apt/sources.list? | 06:44 |
dafina | high! | 06:45 |
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thoreauputic | benplaut: you missed the entertainment provided by one "wonderland" some hopurs back... | 06:45 |
mmc_ | boxingfiend... i just did a standard install... ur a little over my head at the moment | 06:45 |
thoreauputic | *hours | 06:45 |
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sizzam | anyone here use NZBGet? | 06:45 |
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[2] BoxingFiend | !sources.list | 06:45 |
ubotu | I haven't a clue, [2] BoxingFiend | 06:45 |
thoreauputic | !sources | 06:45 |
ubotu | sources is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto | 06:45 |
erudeye | how to mount partition so the user can access, not only root | 06:46 |
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[2] BoxingFiend | check out that link mmc and then install jazip package | 06:46 |
nalioth | sizzam: what is nzbget? | 06:46 |
erudeye | hello, need help :D | 06:46 |
sizzam | its an app to handle nzb files - basicall xml postlists for newsgroups | 06:47 |
erudeye | about mounting | 06:47 |
sizzam | *basically | 06:47 |
nalioths_dog | erudeye: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically | 06:47 |
[2] BoxingFiend | found this i thought i share... www.serbaniaotic.com/TomKillsOprah.mov | 06:47 |
erudeye | hmmm | 06:47 |
crimsun | [2] BoxingFiend: keep the off-topic stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic, please | 06:47 |
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nalioth | sizzam: did you need help with it, or were just asking? | 06:47 |
mmc_ | boxingfiend... checkig out the repositories link... will chk back w/ questions | 06:48 |
sizzam | i need help with the configuration file for it | 06:48 |
mmc_ | boxingfiend... thanks and peace to you | 06:48 |
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ksmurf | can anyone help me with configuring my wacom inside xorg.conf | 06:48 |
nalioth | sizzam: i use Pan for my nntp, (cuz they dont do nzb's) | 06:48 |
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sizzam | i was using nzbperl, but im having trouble getting all of the required perl modules for it | 06:49 |
erudeye | i don't want mounting forever, just right now :D | 06:49 |
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aru | i want mounting forever | 06:50 |
drcodedd2 | hi all | 06:50 |
nalioth | sizzam: the perl mods aren't in the repos? | 06:50 |
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drcodedd2 | how I get back to packge installed menu ? | 06:50 |
drcodedd2 | I want to check if gnome is installed | 06:50 |
sizzam | nalioth: some are, theres a list of about 20 of them | 06:51 |
thoreauputic | drcodedd2: there is no package called gnome afaik | 06:51 |
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thoreauputic | drcodedd2: and it should be obvious if gnome is installed ;) | 06:51 |
drcodedd2 | I think it didnt installed it | 06:52 |
nalioth | sizzam: so have you installed all the perl mods you've found in the repos? | 06:52 |
thoreauputic | drcodedd2: I stand corrected - there is indeed a gnome package | 06:52 |
sizzam | nalioth: i havent done it on this install, let me run through it and see how it goes | 06:52 |
thoreauputic | drcodedd2: why do you think this? | 06:52 |
nickrud | can someone teach me how to cleanly exit a channel created by right clicking a nick in xchat? | 06:52 |
nalioth | nickrud: you mean a private message window? | 06:53 |
Madpilot | nickrud: /part [name of channel] ? | 06:53 |
nickrud | nalioth, yes | 06:53 |
thoreauputic | drcodedd2: if it's because you can't get the desktop to start, your problem is elsewhere | 06:53 |
Madpilot | nickrud: ah, nvrmnd... | 06:53 |
nickrud | Madpilot, tried that :) | 06:53 |
nalioth | nickrud: right click on the tab with the user nick in it and click close | 06:53 |
drcodedd2 | it say no X file | 06:53 |
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ksmurf | is it one & or 2 && to send a command to the background? | 06:54 |
thoreauputic | drcodedd2: did you do a standard install ? | 06:54 |
nickrud | nalioth, does that really close it, for real, I'm not real comfortable that that works | 06:54 |
dafina | ksmurf: one & | 06:54 |
drcodedd2 | yes | 06:54 |
drcodedd2 | I will try to reinstall it | 06:54 |
ksmurf | dafine and at the end right? | 06:54 |
dafina | yes | 06:54 |
[2] BoxingFiend | & for backgroup, && for an AND operator | 06:54 |
thoreauputic | drcodedd2: what does the command "which X" return? (without the quote marks) | 06:55 |
erudeye | i has just mount, the root can access, but the user can't, how to fix? | 06:55 |
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nalioth | nickrud: did it disappear? | 06:55 |
nickrud | nalioth, closed, tab gone | 06:55 |
thoreauputic | bah another "reinstall before trying" quit... | 06:55 |
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erudeye | i has just mount, the root can access, but the user can't, how to fix? | 06:56 |
[2] BoxingFiend | erudeye: mount reads /etc/fstab, make sure the mount point you have in question contains user as one of the flag | 06:56 |
thoreauputic | erudeye: what did you mount, and with what command? | 06:56 |
newbie | hi i was wondering when the new ndiswrapper will be integrated to ubuntu will it be in breezy? | 06:56 |
erudeye | hmmm | 06:56 |
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erudeye | mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/data | 06:56 |
erudeye | that command | 06:56 |
imaek | What is the file to lsof to see what is using ALSA? | 06:56 |
Une-ga-dihi | Anyone had Ubuntu kill a hard drive? | 06:56 |
[2] BoxingFiend | do a df -T -h | 06:57 |
Seveas | newbie, 'new ndiswrapper'..? | 06:57 |
[2] BoxingFiend | what file type is /dev/hda5 | 06:57 |
Seveas | when was the release? | 06:57 |
thoreauputic | erudeye: you mounted it as root then | 06:57 |
ksmurf | brb | 06:57 |
erudeye | ntfs | 06:57 |
erudeye | i have | 06:57 |
erudeye | i mount it on root | 06:57 |
erudeye | but when i back to normal user, i can't read it | 06:58 |
thoreauputic | erudeye: what line in /etc/fstab do you have for that partition? | 06:58 |
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thoreauputic | erudeye: type less /etc/fstab to see | 06:58 |
[2] BoxingFiend | do you have something like /dev/hda4 /mnt/data ntfs rw,user,noauto in /etc/fstab? | 06:59 |
newbie | sevas ndiswrapper 1.2 http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/ | 06:59 |
erudeye | no one | 06:59 |
erudeye | no hda5 | 06:59 |
[2] BoxingFiend | /dev/hda5* | 06:59 |
aru | I had a drive I could access as root but not as user, I had to delete the mountpoint then make the dir as user :) | 06:59 |
erudeye | no | 06:59 |
newbie | is ndiswrapper 1.1 integrated to ubuntu? | 06:59 |
erudeye | no one | 06:59 |
erudeye | should i add that? | 07:00 |
thoreauputic | erudeye: as [2] BoxingFiend points out, you should have a line like the one he gave above | 07:00 |
erudeye | OK :D | 07:00 |
erudeye | thanx guys | 07:00 |
thoreauputic | erudeye: wait | 07:00 |
erudeye | yes what | 07:00 |
thoreauputic | erudeye: you need 0 0 at the end of the line as well | 07:00 |
erudeye | what that mean? | 07:00 |
[2] BoxingFiend | yeah sorry /dev/hda5 /mnt/data ntfs rw,user,noauto 0 0 | 07:01 |
erudeye | dump | 07:01 |
erudeye | pass | 07:01 |
erudeye | what is dump | 07:01 |
erudeye | what is pass | 07:01 |
thoreauputic | erudeye: yes - just make sure you put 0 0 | 07:01 |
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erudeye | please explain me what that meaning of 0 0 | 07:01 |
thoreauputic | [2] BoxingFiend: rw is kind of pointless for ntfs | 07:02 |
[2] BoxingFiend | !fstab | 07:02 |
ubotu | [2] BoxingFiend: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? | 07:02 |
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erudeye | yes, it's read only | 07:02 |
erudeye | no rw | 07:02 |
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thoreauputic | erudeye: I would suggest you use noauto,ro,users,umask=022 0 0 | 07:03 |
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erudeye | but can i add rw so i can write to it? | 07:03 |
erudeye | hmmm | 07:03 |
thoreauputic | erudeye: you can't write safely to ntfs | 07:03 |
erudeye | ok | 07:03 |
thoreauputic | erudeye: those entries are what I use here | 07:03 |
nalioth | erudeye: writing to NTFS is the quick way to an all linux hard drive | 07:03 |
[2] BoxingFiend | dump = determine if the filesystem needs to be dump, and pass = is used by fsck upon reboot time | 07:04 |
benplaut | i thought CaptiveNTFS was stable by now (didn't cause corruption)? | 07:04 |
mmc_ | boxingfiend... ok, i have installed jazip | 07:05 |
thoreauputic | benplaut: feel free to walk erudeye through setting up CaptiveNTFS ;-) I suggest not | 07:05 |
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crow | sup? | 07:05 |
[2] BoxingFiend | be lazy like me and use smb to mount ntfs | 07:05 |
[2] BoxingFiend | mmc_: got it to work? | 07:05 |
benplaut | thoreauputic: point taken :) | 07:06 |
erudeye | :D | 07:06 |
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crow | anyone know if its possible to use other GUIs in ubuntu? | 07:06 |
benplaut | i use all ext3 anyway, so... | 07:06 |
shad0w | i cant get 3d accelleration to work.. i have an ATI Radeon 9200 | 07:06 |
erudeye | like kde :D | 07:06 |
benplaut | crow: other Desktop Environments? | 07:06 |
crow | ben: like fluxbox | 07:06 |
shad0w | anyone know how to fix 3d accelleration ;o | 07:06 |
seth_k | shad0w: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto | 07:06 |
shad0w | thanks | 07:06 |
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benplaut | crow: yup... just install using apt-get or synaptic, and then select session when you log in | 07:07 |
benplaut | i use flux for games: ) | 07:07 |
mmc_ | boxingfiend... well... not sure what to do now... i tried to run jazip from the command line and it says can't read config file... permissions wrong maybe? | 07:07 |
crow | ben: i love flux, its simple yet powerfull | 07:07 |
[2] BoxingFiend | 1 sec let me install it and read the man page | 07:07 |
mmc_ | boxingfiend thx | 07:07 |
benplaut | crow: too simple, IMO, but... to each his/her own :) | 07:08 |
[2] BoxingFiend | mmc: sudo jazipconfig | 07:08 |
crow | just installed ubuntu today, used several other distros but liking ubuntu so far | 07:08 |
crow | ben: most other GUIs use too many system resources IMHO | 07:08 |
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SysFail | has anybody gotten mp3 to audio cd burning to work???? | 07:09 |
[2] BoxingFiend | crow: flux rocks on system resources | 07:09 |
digitalfox | flux is beautiful | 07:09 |
emX | *box are cool WMs, but i'm most pleased with ion | 07:09 |
digitalfox | ion? | 07:09 |
digitalfox | is ion low resource? | 07:09 |
emX | !info ion | 07:09 |
nalioth | crow: i'm not sure if the fluxbox packager included a .desktop file | 07:09 |
crow | havent heard of that one | 07:09 |
digitalfox | nalioth, why would it? O.o | 07:10 |
mmc_ | boxingfiend... "no zip devices detected by system" am i mising a driver for scsi or someting? | 07:10 |
emX | ion's really low resource usage | 07:10 |
mmc_ | *something | 07:10 |
emX | tiled window manager -- no overlapping windows. | 07:10 |
nalioth | crow: if you dont see it in "sessions", you'll need to open a /usr/share/xsessions/ *.desktop file READONLY and use it as a template for the flux .desktop | 07:10 |
digitalfox | you need to reboot gdm | 07:11 |
thoreauputic | nalioth: there's a more serious issue with the hoary fluxbox which is only solved by compiling with --disable-xmb (slow starts) | 07:11 |
benplaut | crow: the minimum [on features] i can handle is XFCE, but i abandoned it because the "start" button doesn't go all the way to the bottom-left corner :P | 07:11 |
IcemanV9 | emX: sounds like you needs a LARGE lcd to see all windows :P | 07:11 |
digitalfox | to see the changes take effect | 07:11 |
digitalfox | IcemanV9, that's what I was thinking :p | 07:11 |
[2] BoxingFiend | mmc_: i am assuming your parallel is detected under /dev/sda.. if so then add to /etc/fstab; /dev/sda /zip auto auto 0 0, where /zip is the local directory you want to mount to | 07:11 |
crow | i havent installed it yet, was going to ask to see if it works, before i tried installed | 07:11 |
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digitalfox | I wonder how much memory that saves | 07:11 |
emX | IcemanV9: :-) | 07:11 |
mmc_ | boxingfiend... thx.. i'll be back | 07:11 |
Wckdkl0wn | npdsply could not create direct show player i get this error in firefox.. what do i have to isntall to fix it? | 07:11 |
nalioth | thoreauputic: i dont use flux, but i have seen several users in here with less-used DMs, not have an entry in the sessions menu for their new DM | 07:11 |
emX | digitalfox: funs about as low as straight X | 07:11 |
emX | *runs | 07:12 |
crow | benplaut: yeah, i dont require eyecandy though, as long as the system works for me... | 07:12 |
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thoreauputic | nalioth: correct - enlightenment is an example I think | 07:12 |
emX | IcemanV9: use it on my laptop, with 15" screen at 1024...works fine. | 07:12 |
digitalfox | I've never run straight X, only twm | 07:12 |
nalioth | thoreauputic: i dont remember how many, but i've done it on my system for more than one | 07:13 |
IcemanV9 | emX: 15" @ 1024?? you're kidding, right?? not 1600 or 1400? | 07:13 |
Wckdkl0wn | anyone know? | 07:13 |
benplaut | crow: i'm stuck with the GUI config tools of Gnome :) | 07:13 |
thoreauputic | nalioth: yes, i've done the same | 07:13 |
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emX | IcemanV9: blame the i810 drivers (or IBM); that's all it can do. | 07:13 |
Wckdkl0wn | npdsply could not create direct show player i get this error in firefox.. what do i have to isntall to fix it? | 07:13 |
IcemanV9 | emX: aw, shucks! too bad, i am using 1400 w/ 15" | 07:14 |
erudeye | /dev/hda5 /mnt/data ntfs ro,users,umask 0 0 <<< this is on my fstab | 07:14 |
thoreauputic | nalioth: flux does include fluxbox.desktop in the ubuntu package though | 07:14 |
emX | IcemanV9: that'd be nice... | 07:14 |
digitalfox | uh, the i810 drivers work fine at higher than 1024x768 | 07:14 |
erudeye | but i still can't read it | 07:14 |
digitalfox | pretty sure... | 07:14 |
[2] BoxingFiend | change users to user | 07:14 |
emX | digitalfox: not with my specific chip | 07:14 |
erudeye | ok | 07:14 |
nalioth | thoreauputic: tx 4 the info | 07:14 |
emX | digitalfox: i spent a weekend fiddling with it... | 07:14 |
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thoreauputic | nalioth: the trouble with the ubuntu fluxbox is it floods the font server or something - which slows the startup alarmingly (like 30 seconds or more) | 07:15 |
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dbernar1 | oh thats why... | 07:15 |
nalioth | thoreauputic: will have to keep that in mind, will it be addressed in 5.10? | 07:16 |
dbernar1 | I guess not alarmingly for me... | 07:16 |
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erudeye | You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "data". <<<< :( | 07:16 |
thoreauputic | the issue is fixed by compiling flux with --disable-xmb | 07:16 |
dbernar1 | or alarmingly enough, to point to the reason. | 07:16 |
erudeye | i didn't got the ide | 07:16 |
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erudeye | a | 07:16 |
[2] BoxingFiend | make sure you sudo umount /mnt/data, then mount again | 07:17 |
erudeye | hmm | 07:17 |
thoreauputic | nalioth: I emailed the maintainer, but got no reply | 07:17 |
ecliptik | my wireless card is crashing out randomly, it works fine when I'm in the room with the router but when I move away from it some the activity light goes solid and my networking is dead, any ideas on what's going on with it? | 07:17 |
Wckdkl0wn | npdsply could not create direct show player i get this error in firefox.. what do i have to isntall to fix it? | 07:17 |
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ecliptik | it's a netgear wg511 v1 pcmcia card using prism2 drivers | 07:17 |
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erudeye | :(( | 07:17 |
erudeye | it can't | 07:17 |
thoreauputic | erudeye: did you edit fstab? | 07:17 |
erudeye | /dev/hda5 /mnt/data ntfs ro,users,umask 0 0 <<< this is on my fstab | 07:18 |
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thoreauputic | erudeye: wrong | 07:18 |
erudeye | should i restart? | 07:18 |
erudeye | what wrong? | 07:18 |
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thoreauputic | /dev/hda5 /mnt/data ntfs noauto,ro,users,umask=022 0 0 | 07:18 |
keikoz | what's the umask for, if you dont put a value ? | 07:19 |
erudeye | ok let me try | 07:19 |
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holycow | anyone here run cinelerra by chance? | 07:19 |
[2] BoxingFiend | i think it's user not users for the options flag, let me check the man page | 07:19 |
thoreauputic | erudeye: if you fix it you will be able to mount with "mount /mnt/data" as a user | 07:19 |
keikoz | yes it is user | 07:19 |
erudeye | hmm | 07:20 |
erudeye | k | 07:20 |
thoreauputic | [2] BoxingFiend: they do different things | 07:20 |
keikoz | but i dont see what putting it for | 07:20 |
keikoz | put umask=0222 that's enough | 07:20 |
Wckdkl0wn | npdsply could not create direct show player i get this error in firefox.. what do i have to isntall to fix it? | 07:20 |
thoreauputic | users allows any user to umount | 07:20 |
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thoreauputic | user only the one who mounted it | 07:20 |
keikoz | and the ro is not useful; you can't anyway write on it | 07:20 |
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yahalom | anyone using the StarterBar desklet? | 07:21 |
thoreauputic | keikoz: it does no harm :) | 07:21 |
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keikoz | no that's sure | 07:21 |
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thoreauputic | keikoz: let's just get it working for him, OK? | 07:21 |
keikoz | i just like making it simple, when it is possible | 07:21 |
mmc_ | boxingfiend... back... no go yet... /dev/sda not appearing | 07:21 |
keikoz | rhaaaa he was asking, i explained him | 07:22 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, the gnome-system-tools version from breezy doesn't appear to work properly with sudo. It asks for my root password when i start time-admin, network-admin, shares-admin etc. and refuses to accept the password of my current user. if i remove the breey version and re-install the hoary version it uses gksdo i believe | 07:23 |
imaek | How do I tell what is using alsa? It is lsof something | 07:23 |
[2] BoxingFiend | mmc: cat /proc/scsi/scsi and see which drive is detected | 07:23 |
thoreauputic | keikoz: well, we've been helping him, and there's no point in prolonging the agony with unecessary corrections :) | 07:23 |
SysFail | has anybody gotten mp3 to audio cd burning to work???? | 07:23 |
yahalom | anyone? | 07:23 |
dabaR | where is w32codecs? ubotu does not kno... | 07:23 |
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La_PaRCa | can i just add a resolution to my xorg.conf if its not there? | 07:23 |
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jasoncohen | Burgundavia, even after using sudo with another application, it continued to ask me for my root password when i should have 15 minutes of access. | 07:23 |
[2] BoxingFiend | !restricted | 07:24 |
ubotu | hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats | 07:24 |
thoreauputic | dabaR: ^^^ | 07:24 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, there is another a fix, make certain you get the latest one | 07:24 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, are you seeing this issue in breezy> | 07:24 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, yes, but it has been fixed | 07:24 |
mmc_ | boxingfiend "AttachedDevices: " | 07:24 |
mmc_ | boxingfiend.. nothing showing | 07:24 |
dabaR | La_PaRCa: ya, you prolly could. or use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 07:24 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, it must have been fixed very recently because i just downloaded the source package off packages.ubuntu.com | 07:24 |
La_PaRCa | dabaR, its not for me, its for a newbie, so I need to do it the easy way for me | 07:24 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, run breezy or run hoary, mixing is total crack | 07:24 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, does ubuntu have something like qa.debian.org that is more up to date? | 07:24 |
mmc_ | i feel like i must be missing scsi support in the kernel??? ya think? | 07:25 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, what does qa.debian.org? | 07:25 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, i just wanted to see if gnome-system-tools had boot-admin | 07:25 |
[2] BoxingFiend | mmc: it's there, forgot the module name for insmod | 07:25 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, it does, trust me | 07:25 |
jasoncohen | i don't need the instability of breezy for that | 07:25 |
thoreauputic | erudeye: please keep your questions in channel and ask before /msg ing or dcc chatting | 07:25 |
dabaR | thoreauputic, [2] BoxingFiend: in fact, it is not there any more. | 07:26 |
dabaR | Is it in backports, or marillat, what was it? | 07:26 |
keikoz | thoreauputic | 07:26 |
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jasoncohen | Burgundavia, package tracking system with up to date info + changelog info + bug info - see http://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html | 07:26 |
thoreauputic | dabaR: it's in backports I think | 07:26 |
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keikoz | that's a bill gates -style opinion :p | 07:26 |
erudeye | :D | 07:26 |
erudeye | ok | 07:26 |
dabaR | i should just go see. | 07:26 |
erudeye | but i'm confuse | 07:26 |
thoreauputic | keikoz: chill | 07:27 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, that is nifty. I believe launchpad will have something similar | 07:27 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, debian has a much better infrastructure for handling bugs (reportbug provides useful info that isn't available through bugzilla) | 07:27 |
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thoreauputic | keikoz: thanks for the gratuitous insult | 07:27 |
keikoz | rhoooo | 07:27 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/products/gepolabo/ | 07:27 |
keikoz | was joking xD | 07:27 |
mmc_ | <scrathing head> | 07:28 |
thoreauputic | keikoz: since you feel like hijacking the process, feel free to help erudeye and I'll disappear happily | 07:28 |
dabaR | bah, I really did not have them installed. | 07:28 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, that's for stock quotes, isn't it? | 07:28 |
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keikoz | no, i go to sleep | 07:28 |
dabaR | I am not using my ubuntu, it seems. | 07:28 |
[2] BoxingFiend | is scsi support, scsi disk support, and iomega parallel port zip drive scsi support compile by the default kernel? | 07:28 |
dabaR | ok, I go to something else. | 07:28 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, qa.debian.org is updated live i believe. packages.debian.org/packages.ubuntu.com get updated once a day at most or less | 07:29 |
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iceman | Anyone using 64 bit ubuntu ... | 07:29 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, qa.debian.org is done based on source packages. it's more a tool for develoeprs | 07:29 |
jasoncohen | *developers | 07:29 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, launchpad is also sources packages | 07:30 |
Burgundavia | it is very much a tool for developers | 07:30 |
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erudeye | OK i got it, thanx guys | 07:30 |
Orborde | Where does Ubuntu store its default interface info for eth0? I can't make eth0 remember the static IP address I assigned it past a reboot. | 07:30 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, btw, do you have firefox 1.0.5 in breezy? it went into sid on 7/16 | 07:30 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, not currently | 07:30 |
keikoz | thoreauputic i'm sorry, didnt want to hurt you | 07:30 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, Ubuntu just passed the Upstream Version Freeze | 07:30 |
keikoz | and i dont search pbls ... ^^ | 07:30 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, ...already? | 07:31 |
jsgotangco | it did | 07:31 |
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iceman | I'm looking at a upgrade ... to 64 bit AMD based System ... need advice .. | 07:31 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule | 07:31 |
ColonelKernel | still getting very slow dns resolution | 07:32 |
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jasoncohen | Burgundavia, so breezy may actually be decently stable in a few weeks? | 07:32 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, notice any similarities? --> http://live.gnome.org/ReleasePlanning/TwoPointEleven | 07:32 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, might | 07:32 |
Burgundavia | gnome 2.12 is still coming | 07:33 |
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Burgundavia | and the X stuff isn't finished yet | 07:33 |
holycow | by the way, if anyone is interested, the cinelerra rpms from http://heroinewarrior.com/download.php3 convert fine with alien and install cleanly it seems | 07:33 |
holycow | neat | 07:33 |
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bluefoxicy | oh my GOD | 07:33 |
bluefoxicy | http://opensource.com/ | 07:34 |
bluefoxicy | evil. | 07:34 |
jsgotangco | JaneW, hi | 07:34 |
highvoltage | JaneW: I second that :) | 07:34 |
Orborde | Where does Ubuntu store its default interface info for eth0? I can't make eth0 remember the static IP address I assigned it past a reboot. Help, please? | 07:34 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, well, the ubuntu release schedule will have to be flagrantly ignored to get 2.12 in | 07:34 |
holycow | bluefoxicy, they write quite a lot of open source and support quite a bit of open source development | 07:34 |
holycow | i | 07:34 |
holycow | i'm happy they are making money frankly | 07:35 |
Orborde | I'm assigning it with "ifconfig -a eth0 27.0.0.2", and it works until I reboot. | 07:35 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, most of the features are already there | 07:35 |
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Burgundavia | jasoncohen, for gnome 2.12 | 07:35 |
highvoltage | bluefoxicy: that is evil. | 07:35 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, and that is one thing that does ignore the feature freeze, due to how closely Ubuntu works with gnome | 07:35 |
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jasoncohen | so, after august 11th, there will be no more updates for most everything else? | 07:36 |
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jasoncohen | since that's the featurefreeze date | 07:36 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, only stablization stuff | 07:36 |
mjkelly93 | anybody know what command or program is used to configure the "ati" module for ati cards? Im looking for a program similar to fglrxconfig, except for the ati module? | 07:37 |
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jasoncohen | i still don't understand ubuntu's policy on firefox. i get the theoretical argument for not having packages change versions due to potential library changes and thus breakage in other apps, but that need not happen with firefox AND more importantly the ubuntu security team doesn't seem to be able to keep up with firefox updates- especially on warty | 07:38 |
JaneW | morning :) | 07:38 |
Madpilot | does "Upstream Freeze" for Breezy mean that the latest version of Screem (among others) won't be in Breezy? | 07:38 |
jasoncohen | it took quite a while to get al of 1.0.4's fixes backported (over 2 weeks) and there's been nothing for warty and it's been nearly 2 months! | 07:38 |
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QaDeS | anyone can help me setting up my wpa encrypted wlan? | 07:39 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, how do you feel about ubuntu's policy on upgrading packages- in particular firefox | 07:39 |
[2] BoxingFiend | Ordorde: /etc/network/interfaces for default values | 07:39 |
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Andrewcool | Hello | 07:39 |
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Andrewcool | anybody there? | 07:40 |
jasoncohen | QaDeS, you'll want to use wpasupplicant. i can show you my config file. I use WPA-PSK. there are also examples installed. | 07:40 |
Madpilot | Andrewcool: only 405 of us... :) | 07:40 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, same as debians | 07:40 |
QaDeS | ok :) | 07:40 |
Andrewcool | :D well umm 403 can be asleep :D | 07:40 |
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jordan | hi | 07:41 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, true- but debian doesn't cater to desktop users | 07:41 |
jordan | hi | 07:41 |
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jasoncohen | Burgundavia, they also don't care as much about ease of use | 07:41 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, as long as the security fixes get in, I am fine | 07:41 |
Andrewcool | Well umm i have a question about Ubuntu | 07:41 |
jordan | HI | 07:41 |
Andrewcool | Hello.. | 07:41 |
Burgundavia | Andrewcool, don't ask to ask, just ask | 07:41 |
Andrewcool | Will can Ubuntu do duel like xp and Ubuntu | 07:41 |
jordan | :) | 07:41 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, well, they don't in a timely fashion. 2 weeks is a long time for hoary and it's been 2 months and there's no updates for warty. hoary's mozilla never was patched | 07:41 |
jordan | bye | 07:41 |
Madpilot | !dualboot | 07:42 |
ubotu | dualboot is probably http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38398 or ask me about <grub> | 07:42 |
Madpilot | !grub | 07:42 |
ubotu | grub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto | 07:42 |
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jasoncohen | Burgundavia, and the breakage of mozilla's extension site was unfortunate- and not mozilla's fault | 07:42 |
Andrewcool | ok thanks | 07:42 |
Madpilot | Andrewcool: you should look at the 'grub' link that was just posted | 07:42 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, yes it was actually, if you read the bug | 07:42 |
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jasoncohen | they make a valid argument that by distributing firefox in the way that debian, ubuntu and other distros distribute it, you're not getting an official mozilla package and when things break they get the complaints- like the inability to use extensions. in order for them to have safely allowed ubuntu users, they would have had to look at the full version tag of firefox- and do the same for all distros | 07:43 |
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jasoncohen | and at the time they merely wanted to block access to old firefox versions which was more important than catering to all the distros | 07:44 |
SysFail | would be nice if konqueror worked without crashing...wouldnt need firefox :) | 07:44 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, the reason mozilla had to break u.m.o is because they cannot tell if a version is patched except through the vendorstring | 07:44 |
jasoncohen | for me the issue is that it's unacceptable that mozilla-browser still hiasn't been patched and that warty's firefox and mozilla haven't been patched | 07:44 |
QaDeS | jasoncohen, i instaled wpasupplicant now | 07:45 |
andrewcool_away | Is there a easyier way to do duel install.. :D | 07:45 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, i thought they could | 07:45 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, nope | 07:45 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, so, are they doing anything to change that? | 07:45 |
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Madpilot | duel install? is that where the two OSes fight with each other? | 07:45 |
andrewcool | umm *confushed* | 07:46 |
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hondje | they take 10 inodes and fire | 07:46 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, since firefox is perhaps the #1 used app in ubuntu and mozilla-browser is in main, ubuntu should either have timely security updates or it should release the newest version available | 07:46 |
Madpilot | it's spelled "dual", andrewcool... and those URLs are the standard resources | 07:46 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, security patching is not easy | 07:47 |
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jasoncohen | Burgundavia, it's not as big as an issue on debian because if you are running etch, you can easily install the latest version from sid and sarge users tend not to be desktop users- at least that i have seen | 07:47 |
Burgundavia | they always need more people to help | 07:47 |
jasoncohen | Burgundavia, i know it isn't. that's why i don't think this particular app should be patched | 07:47 |
Wckdkl0wn | npdsply error occurs in firefox how would i fix it... i did google for it but keeps coming up as a problem for windows | 07:47 |
Madpilot | gah... someone pls remind me what I enter to figure out my kernal version? | 07:47 |
Gatton | uname -a | 07:47 |
Burgundavia | jasoncohen, I happen to agree with you, but convince the powers that be | 07:47 |
jasoncohen | heh, that will be hard | 07:48 |
Madpilot | Gatton: thnx... | 07:48 |
holycow | http://cvs.cinelerra.org/packages.html#apt-x86 <-- cinelerra via apt | 07:48 |
holycow | neato | 07:48 |
Gatton | Madpilot np. Finally an easy question I can answer ;) | 07:48 |
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