=== Chambers` [~Thom@pcp02906040pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === |rockinnerd| is now known as ChristopherCmoli [12:04] Where does linux-source get installed? === ChristopherCmoli is now known as |rockinnerd| [12:05] <_frank> Riggzy_Linux: look in /usr/src/ [12:05] <_frank> should be there somewhere [12:05] ah its bzipped [12:05] thtas why i didnt see it === |rockinnerd| is now known as |rockinnerd|_awa === _P_ [~princoscr@host-84-220-136-222.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === _str is now known as StR === |rockinnerd|_awa is now known as |rockinnerd| === JensK [~JensK@p549075F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === Dhraakellian needs to get the xchat systray plugin installed [12:24] I came downstairs, turned the monitor on, and looked at my system tray to see if anyone had set off my highlights === _user [~user@pool-70-106-46-109.hag.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === |rockinnerd| [~chris@ppp-69-215-99-195.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === hippie [~hippie@pc-200-74-33-26.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:28] how can I compilemy own kernel and make it an ubuntu package? === _P_ [~princoscr@host-84-220-136-222.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [~ubuntu@adrianDHCP-178.216-254-248.iw.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:35] I need a bit of help. I'm running Kubuntu live right now, and I want to get rid of my linux partition and expand my linux. I was told to run the live cd, and get gparted to do that. But gparted doesn't run on kde. === _user is now known as WhiteRaabbirR === WhiteRaabbirR is now known as WhiteRaabbirRso [12:36] ubuntu: again? you have an ext3 partition, but it is too small? and you want to delete it to create a bigger one, right? [12:37] no, I have a 3meg swap [12:38] I want to get rid of windows [12:41] <_frank> ubuntu do you have qtparted? === theplateau [~james@cpe-024-211-050-039.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === _P_ [~princoscr@host-84-220-136-222.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === _gunther [~gunther@p548C053C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === Minuo [~adam@64.252.108.234] has joined #kubuntu [12:59] Is there a good way to make sure my USB HD is always the same device node (and thus the same mount point in /media/) without going in and hacking udev? It doesn't look like a normal UDEV setup. I ask because Amarok won't read right off the kioslaves device and I want to keep my music collection on a USB HD === _str [~str@216.230.136.242] has joined #kubuntu [01:02] wow..thats alot of linux games === gilles [~kubuntu@maz13-1-82-232-118-83.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === gilles [~kubuntu@maz13-1-82-232-118-83.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _marlon [~marlon@net.unifebe.edu.br] has joined #kubuntu [01:12] <_marlon> hi [01:13] hi === nmorse [~nmorse@adsl-64-217-110-209.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:24] Hmm, you know, GNUStep has some real potential [01:24] Too bad it's ugly as sin [01:30] Heh, I just learned something [01:30] If you try to remove base, it makes you type "Yes, do as I say!" or it aborts it === stef [~stef@p54ABDEBA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:33] hello? [01:33] hello [01:34] hey nmorse , are we alone here? [01:34] can you play COD natively [01:35] no [01:35] to stef that is [01:35] I have no idea what COD is [01:35] okay i see it I was to fast, sorry [01:36] testmad: xine might [01:36] If you have the w32codecs package installed [01:36] Call Of Duty - game [01:36] Oh [01:37] Hmm, natively, can't say I've ever heard it had a native linux client [01:37] In dx9wine, maybe [01:37] well..i prefer not to use wine === _seth [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:38] The only games I use with native linux clients are Doom 3, UT2004, and Neverwinter Nights [01:38] Oh, and Quake 3 [01:38] can I play this games with ubuntu? [01:39] The ones I just listed? Yeah they play fine. [01:39] Both of my computers run Kubuntu and my desktop plays those games just fine [01:39] coll, are there deb -files for that? [01:39] My laptop's video sucks though [01:39] No deb files for those no [01:40] The only distro I've ever seen even provide an installer for 3rd party games is Gentoo, and you still essentially do the install yourself [01:40] aha === sethk [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:41] Neverwinter Nights and Unreal Tournament aren't really hard to install [01:41] Quake 3's easy enough too [01:41] I don't really remember the Doom 3 install though [01:41] easy [01:42] did it last nite [01:42] bbl..time to cook [01:42] Is there anywhere a free version of tht games- I assume not, or? [01:42] There's a demo for UT2004 [01:43] hmm where can I get it? [01:43] Quake 3's about $10 at Wal-Mart, NWN Platinum (includes both expansions) is between $30 and $40 [01:43] The demo should be available on unrealtournament.com [01:44] Ooh, camaelon could fix all my problems with GNUStep's ugliness === Jeezis [~roger@jeezis.user] has joined #kubuntu [01:45] yes there is a demo [01:49] I don't think there's a Neverwinter Nights demo though [01:49] The Mac Tech Demo is the only one I think === sethk [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu === epiloc [~blake@ip68-1-232-116.dl.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === sethk is now known as seth_k [02:02] Maybe someone can help me?! Ijust try to edit the network configuration file but have not the rights . How can can I administer such files with a normal user account? [02:02] you preface the command with "sudo" === |rockinnerd| [~chris@adsl-69-213-153-238.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:02] which will ask you for your password [02:02] kate goes on [02:02] oh, kate [02:02] then use kdesu [02:02] like "kdesu kate /path/to/the.file [02:04] okay, Im on konsole root then I do kdesu /etc/network/interfaces and get the message >no rights [02:07] when I doIt so: [02:07] root@ubuntu:~# kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces [02:07] Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-stef" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. [02:07] Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root" [02:07] kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed. [02:07] <|rockinnerd|> stef: sudo su - [02:07] use kwrite [02:07] <|rockinnerd|> then kate [02:08] oh right, |rockinnerd|. Didn't notice he was logged in as root [02:08] good catch [02:08] <|rockinnerd|> thx [02:10] okay, thanx . I have to do with the user account and it works [02:10] but why I can't do it as root? [02:12] <|rockinnerd|> stef, you cant act as root if you're already root [02:12] <|rockinnerd|> sudo makes it seem as you're running it as root [02:14] yes, but when I'm root I get the above error message and the application dont start. Sorry , I want to understand that [02:14] <|rockinnerd|> dont sudo kate [02:15] <|rockinnerd|> just kate [02:15] <|rockinnerd|> and su - not su [02:16] <|rockinnerd|> if u change to root [02:16] <|rockinnerd|> the '-' signifies to start a new login shell [02:16] ahhh , I see- ohh Its late here ;-) === testmad [~testmad@pool-141-153-72-252.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:22] [02:22] [02:22] [02:22] [02:22] [02:22] [02:22] [02:22]

[02:22] <|rockinnerd|> Stef ???
[02:22]  auto eth0
[02:22]  iface eth0 inet static
[02:22]   address 192.168.7.22
[02:22]   netmask 255.255.255.0
[02:22]   gateway 192.168.7.1

[02:22] [02:22] is something wrong with that ? [02:22] sorry [02:23] <|rockinnerd|> uh.... why the html? you cant markup irc chats [02:23] <|rockinnerd|> thts ok btw [02:23] <|rockinnerd|> just dont copy and paste so much [02:24] its my first time in irc, please sorry for any mistakes [02:24] <|rockinnerd|> that's ok :-) [02:24] <|rockinnerd|> dont do that in other channels though [02:25] <|rockinnerd|> if they have bots, you get kicked. [02:25] <|rockinnerd|> kicked = signed off, but u can sign back on [02:26] okay, It seems it is not a good idea to discuss configuration files?! ;-) === testmad [~testmad@pool-141-153-72-252.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:28] stef: we have http://kubuntu.pastebin.com for you to paste large amounts of text into :) [02:28] stef: you can then paste a link to your pastebin file === ralph1 [~guest@66-214-31-61.lb-cres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:29] uhh, thats new to me ->cool === kalenedrael [~kalene@c-24-218-137-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:32] Hi all I am about to install kubuntu but Multimedia is important to me. Can someone point me to the doc's to get k3b fully functional, and the doc's needed to get sound and video fully functional. Thanks a million. [02:33] test: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/315924 === \Grooby\ [~Grooby@ip24-250-126-171.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:34] ralph1: for full k3b functionality, just "sudo aptitude install cdrdao" (in a terminal) after you have added the universe repositories. [02:34] ralph1: sound should be functional out of the box in most cases. The wiki (http://wiki.ubuntu.com) can help you if it is not, and we can too! [02:36] am i right in understanding that samba and samba-common are not the same things [02:36] n/m === utta [~utta@c-24-128-224-224.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:38] seth_k: Thanks for your answer, but what I am looking for is the doc's needed to get k3b to create mp3 cd's, and getting the win 32 codec's install so that multimedia works. [02:39] w32codecs requires the marillat repo [02:39] And that's the package name: w32codecs [02:39] are this codecs for free? [02:39] nmorse: backports repo, preferably. Marillat is scary [02:39] stef: yes, you can download them for free [02:40] ubotu tell ralph1 about w32codecs === _michael [~michael@adrianDHCP-222.216-254-253.iw.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:41] I thought this dont goes watching films with win codecs . I thought you have to pay for that [02:41] <_michael> ok, so how do i view my system spec in linux? [02:43] umm problem [02:43] im trying to mount my windows drive.. [02:43] but when i try to do it..it says mount: special device hda1 does not exist [02:43] doh.. [02:43] n/m [02:43] <_michael> are you sure it's mounted on hda1? [02:44] fergot /dev/ [02:44] heheh [02:44] <_michael> lolya, it happens [02:44] <_michael> do u know how to get system specs? [02:45] seth_k: and all thanks for your answers I off now to install kubuntu hoary. See you all with my questions after the install. [02:46] ralph1: I look forward to it, see you then! [02:46] _michael: what kind of specs? [02:46] <_michael> like my ram [02:46] <_michael> i have a stick of ram and i don't know how much it is, i want to toss it in and see how much it increases [02:47] that's in /proc/meminfo [02:47] everything hides in /proc/ in different places [02:47] so cat /proc/meminfo will tell you stuff about your memory === seth_k tweaks new version of fantastik, yum... [02:49] <_michael> ok, what do I do in the konsole to open it? [02:49] <_michael> i tried just typing in /proc/meminfo [02:50] hmm, there is an "Dirty" entry there. What does it mean? [02:50] or is there a discription what is telling this cat info? [02:50] anyone know of a camaelon package for Ubuntu? [02:51] _michael: cat /proc/meminfo [02:51] _michael: you need the command "cat" [02:51] <_michael> ok, ty === kalenedrael [~kalene@c-24-218-137-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:51] <_michael> so, which one is ram [02:52] MemTotal, the first entry... [02:52] stef: Dirty memory is waiting to get written to disk or swap [02:53] <_michael> Dirty: 4kb [02:53] <_michael> i know i have 512mb in right now [02:55] <_michael> well, screw that, learned sumthig at least - my other question is how to use wine, none of the things I read really help me [02:56] <_michael> I can open simple things like notepad [02:56] <_michael> but i don't know how to install and run sumthing like roller coaster tycoon [02:57] the short answer is, you probably can't [02:57] stuff like that uses crazy DirectX calls that wine just can't handle yet. But I'll bet cedega can do it (http://transgaming.net) [02:58] <_michael> can i wget it? [02:59] is there a way to always have a cdrom icon on the desk? === otep [~otep@AP-203.167.31.177.sysads.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:00] _michael: you must pay for cedega [03:00] not if its from cvs [03:01] <_michael> fuc - ne thing that works as good that is free? === nmorse [~nmorse@adsl-64-217-110-209.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === Minuo [~adam@64.252.108.234] has joined #kubuntu [03:01] cedega cvs is free. better hope your time is too [03:02] i'm told it ain't easy to set up [03:02] seth_k: is there a way to have a cdrom icon on my desk..at all times no matter if its mounted or not? [03:02] <_michael> hu? [03:02] Yeah [03:03] besides..cedega works..on alot of games..but if you dont pat for it..it can really suck trying to install games from more than one disk [03:03] testmad: Just click "Add new Device" on the menu when you right-click on your desktop [03:03] Create New Link to Device actually [03:04] ok..i got it [03:04] now is it possible to create links to folders on ntfs drives on the desk too?? === poutine [~poutine@cpe-65-24-126-227.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #Kubuntu [03:07] n/m [03:07] got it..just link to url [03:09] hello poutine [03:09] You are so tasty [03:09] o_0 [03:09] Fond memories of Chez Ashton when I visited Quebec === poutine shoots his sauce on nmorse's tongue [03:09] That's nasty [03:09] lol [03:09] sorry [03:09] Poutine is the greatest French Fry dish ever [03:10] of course [03:10] A Quebecois, I take it? [03:10] ouais [03:10] NDG [03:10] in mtl [03:11] anyone got one icon that fits into KDE style for like a video folder? [03:11] There's one in there [03:11] Look under Filesystem [03:12] Montreal, where the only English speaking people in Quebec province live? [03:12] thnx [03:13] nah, sherbrooke and a lot of the townships are largely engliu [03:13] english === ubuntu [~ubuntu@d83-176-40-97.cust.tele2.ch] has joined #kubuntu [03:13] the only place in quebec where it's illegal everywhere to take a right on red though [03:13] Lovely [03:14] Does the Montreal McDonald's (the two-story one) still server poutine too? [03:14] of course, but it's an abomination of le poutine [03:14] Yeah, that it si [03:14] s/si/is/ [03:15] I liked the poutine in those little greasy cafes all over [03:15] And in Chez Ashton [03:15] Canada has the best fast food === aseigo looks at the fellow canucks and says "hey there! =)" [03:15] this is sweet [03:15] there's this place in hmm... it's right by the ice skating rink that has great poutines [03:15] I think it's a Frank's [03:15] im finally getting everything easy to get to [03:15] testmad: yeah well wait until the crash === aseigo thinks canada has a lot of the best of thing s=) [03:15] no crash [03:16] about the only thing we lack is a rich and extensive history in our cities === testmad glares at poutine [03:16] dont say crash [03:16] testmad: I'm just saying, it's probably a good idea to backup after you've done all this work [03:16] heh. backups. pft. ;() [03:16] coming from a person who's lost over a years worth of coding work due to a hd crash [03:17] (I had backups, but I deleted them because I was paranoid) [03:17] dont start about BU's either..cus i lost 20gb of data last nite cus of XP === ^Cricket^ [~seth@pool-70-16-61-10.syr.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:17] <_michael> im installing cedega cvs right now - does it run things other than games? [03:18] yea [03:18] <_michael> like installs? [03:18] yea [03:18] <_michael> such as MS Word? [03:18] I'm a troll [03:18] Is that not allowed here? [03:18] but like i said..2disc games cant isntall.. [03:18] <_michael> ok, kule [03:18] and dunno bout msword [03:18] To an extent, poutine [03:18] Don't take it too far [03:18] <_michael> I never get games that big ne ways [03:19] I see [03:19] Well I'm very subtle === ^Cricket^ [~seth@Cricket.active.supporter.pdpc] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === ptruong [~ptruong@pcp09409285pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:23] <_michael> so, i download the cedega cvs script, and followed the cedega cvs instructions... but it says it's installing winecvs [03:24] yeah, cedega is modified wine [03:24] <_michael> ok [03:24] <_michael> how long should the Make section of the install take [03:25] 4 days, 16 hours, 12 minutes, 32 seconds [03:25] <_michael> o, well if that's all === enzo [~enzo@pcp09409285pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:26] <_michael> i thought it would take about 4 days and 2.2 seconds longer than that [03:26] nope, I could probably even give nanosecond detail [03:26] <_michael> lol [03:29] Ok, this is really starting to annoy me - where can I find the setting to change the KDE starup style? By default it looks like Windows XP === gunther_ [~gunther@p548C3043.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === gunther_ is now known as freedumb_ [03:31] wheres a really awesome screen saver for kubuntu? === apollo2011 [~apollo201@69.177.142.125] has joined #kubuntu === utta [~utta@c-24-128-224-224.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:33] Nevermind, got it === pobstil [~luke@203-173-154-33.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu === poutine_ [~poutine@cpe-65-24-126-227.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:36] <_michael> alright, what is the utility for torrents that comes w/ kubuntu - if ne1 nos? [03:37] Does anyone know how to fix when it detects your CPU at the lowest possible speed? [03:37] !info qtorrent [03:37] qtorrent: (BitTorrent client for QT 3.x), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.9.6.1-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 93 kB, Installed size: 664 kB === pobstil [~luke@203-173-154-33.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:37] I read in a forum about passing timer_clock something as a bootparam, but I don't know what to do [03:38] _michael: if you didn't notice, ubotu told you where to find it [03:38] <_michael> yea, i think i got it === TestMAD [~testmad@pool-141-153-72-252.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:41] <_michael> wow, i love this wget/apt-get thing - he** of a lot better than windows [03:41] wget's easy enough to get for windows [03:42] would be nice if i could get windows software with apt tho [03:42] <_michael> really, never used it [03:42] Debian GNU/Windows [03:43] apt has already shown it can handle multiple backends [03:43] maybe a version of apt that manages MSI packages [03:43] i wish r/w for ntfs was perfect [03:44] i wish a lot of things were perfect :) [03:44] <_michael> i like how linux tends to lay all the crap out for you - as long as you know what you'r looking at/for === konki [~konki___@pool-71-111-171-19.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === jsubl2 [~jsubl2@209.144.23.40] has joined #kubuntu [03:45] technically so does windows. you just need a thousand different little tools instead of the filesystem [03:46] which OS is better kubuntu or ubuntu? i know one is KDE and the other is GNOME.. any comments?? [03:46] <_michael> i like kde [03:46] take a guess which we'll say [03:46] <_michael> but i'm a previous windows user [03:46] then again i'm in both channels [03:46] i prefer kde by a pretty big margin [03:46] <_michael> i started using gnome - but i couldn't figure ne thing out [03:47] that's because it's intuitive :^) [03:47] <_michael> hu? [03:47] <_michael> big word - the fuck does it mean [03:47] once you see how enlightened their superior UI design wisdom is ... [03:47] <_michael> o [03:47] eh, i'm just making fun of gnome, in-joke [03:48] <_michael> i do like gnome in a business setting - kde just looks/feels better [03:48] _michael, so you mean kde is easier or kubuntu is more user friendly than ubuntu?? right?? [03:48] i upload pictures from my camera to folders to email all the time [03:48] kde has thumbnails in its file browser [03:48] gnome has jack [03:48] <_michael> use friendly - i think [03:48] choice is obvious for me [03:49] <_michael> i got used to it in a heart beat, and i still have a hard time w/ our schools gnome setup [03:49] and just admit it..KDE is pretty [03:50] no [03:50] <_michael> damn straight, especially the hot chick on my desktop [03:50] its beautiful [03:50] oooo...hook it up [03:50] lol [03:50] sudo apt-get install pron [03:50] I think that ubuntu now is more user-friendly than kde because of the network config and sinaptycs. [03:50] sproingie, a file browser much like the windows explorer... you can view folder on the left hand corner... [03:51] i find synaptic to be pretty awful [03:51] but KDE... well... KDE rocks xD [03:51] i use aptitude [03:51] it's just curses-based, but it's way more powerful [03:51] <_michael> i couldn't set up wireless in gnome - i only had a little trouble in kde [03:51] and you can play minesweeper in it [03:51] sproingie: me too, we're talking about newbies :P [03:51] when ever i put a cd in my cdrom..i get the cd icon on my desk..how can i make it not do thata? [03:51] <_michael> im a fuckin noob [03:51] _michael, watch your language please [03:51] <_michael> sry [03:51] no worries [03:52] i was bout to say that [03:52] KDE uses a WM/DE independant library for all its apps [03:52] all you need is Qt to run those apps [03:52] heh, i reside between cultures ... fairly clean language in #k?ubuntu, and we swear like sailors on #forth [03:53] hehe [03:53] seth_k: ++ [03:53] GNOME has its own modified library (basically a ripped gtk), which if code is not properly made, could cause apps to be gnome only [03:53] anyoneknow how? === bbailey [~bbailey@adsl-8-123-223.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:53] well, Ubuntu channels all adhere to the Ubuntu Code of Conduct. [03:53] !coc [03:53] I heard coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/ [03:53] xD oh my god xD [03:53] thats borderline there seth_k [03:54] <_michael> guessing that's directed toward me a little [03:54] who has choice the command coc?? xD [03:54] just missing one letter .. [03:54] everyone must see the ubuntu coc [03:54] xD [03:54] we all hold the ubuntu coc [03:54] etc [03:54] heh [03:54] lol [03:54] xD === utta [~utta@c-24-128-224-224.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:55] I can't stop laughting xD [03:55] !conduct might be a better term [03:55] Wish i knew, sproingie [03:55] seriously.how can i make the cdrom stop popping up on the desk when i put a cd in it? [03:56] TestMAD, convert to ubuntu... i think it will solve the problem... am using it and no problems at all [03:56] no [03:56] right-click desktop -> configure desktop -> behavior -> device icons, unclick the cdrom icon [03:56] or if you want 'em all to go away, uncheck "show device icons" [03:57] nah [03:58] i got some on the desk.. [03:58] and went thru some trouble to get them [03:58] konki: fot me gnome look really cool, but once I need to start to do something interesting I need to swicth to kde :) [03:58] so they stay [03:58] what is the command to remove a module from the kernel? [03:58] modprobe -r? [03:58] rmmod [03:59] how safe is write in ntfs right now? [03:59] modprobe -r is the modern way to do it [03:59] sometimes I like to pick at the scabs that have grown around my genetalia, I chew on them after I peel them off to reveal yellow pus, and then I wipe up the pus with my finger, swirl it around in my ear, and I can suck on my finger for hours [03:59] i'm an old fart [03:59] TestMAD: not [03:59] ew.. [03:59] TestMAD: it's safe if you just change the content of an existing file [03:59] it won't create, delete, rename, or resize any files tho [04:00] so i cant move files [04:00] which makes it pretty useless for write access unless you're writing to a loopback file or something [04:00] possible that you *can*, whether it's actually safe or not is the question [04:00] i think i'll install kubuntu on my desktop... currently having ubuntu on this laptop, but the desktop has windows xp... thinking about converting it to kubuntu... test both of em out see whats obselete kde or gnome... [04:01] gnome is ugly [04:01] gnome is like quake 1. an in-depth study in the color brown. [04:01] anyone know where i can order the kubuntu live cd... ubuntu gives away live cds for free... [04:01] lol ubuntu's cds are crap [04:02] currently in the site kubuntu but only downloadable versions [04:02] 9/10 were duds [04:02] anyone know where i can find some screensavers? [04:02] kde comes with buttloads of 'em [04:02] konki: there's not free ship kubuntu cd's [04:02] TestMAD, http://images.google.com/images?q=screensaver&num=100&hl=en&hs=cO1&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&sa=N&tab=wi [04:03] yea..but none are very...umm....cool [04:03] TestMAD: Just take an video an use it :) [04:03] hehe..pron ss [04:04] my screensaver is "blank screen" [04:04] TestMAD: I won't do that [04:04] not much of a screensaver otherwise [04:04] TestMAD, i have alot of preinstalled screensaver on my ubuntu desktop.. over a thousand... and there pretty cool [04:04] mine is clock xD === sproingie named himself after a screensaver actually === dewey [~dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:04] ok..i got like 15 [04:04] TestMAD: you can apt-get plus [04:04] the gl screensavers are fun. 'course they'll heat your vid card up nice and toasty too [04:05] flying toaster is a really cool one xD [04:05] fromoze, dang! its cuz my PC's CD-R is broken.. probably gotta go to the library and burn it from there... how long is the estimated DL time for kubuntu?? [04:05] konki: it's a cd image. depends on your speed [04:05] I dunno .. [04:05] How can I get linux to recognize my proper CPU clock? [04:05] took me 10 minutes, but i have some rather fast net [04:05] It thinks this is a 995 mhz machine [04:05] which is the lowest possible clock speed on here [04:05] this is a 2ghz one [04:06] xscreensaver-nognome, xscreensaver-gl <-- try these packages TestMAD [04:06] sproingie, the public libraries are pretty fast i have DSL, its fast but i think the library is like T1 or T3... cuz its faster than DSL or CABLE [the library] that is === poutine [~poutine@cpe-65-24-126-227.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #Kubuntu [04:07] t1 is just 1.5 megabit === poutine [~poutine@cpe-65-24-126-227.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #Kubuntu === poutine_ is now known as poutine [04:07] i just wanna ask the speed cuz the library only gives u 2hr max privilages for using the comp... [04:07] JUST 1.5 megabit? [04:08] ill finish [04:08] the public library has cd burners? [04:08] damn ... must be nice for the folks warezing [04:08] sproingie: did you ever meet a modem ? xD [04:08] fromoze: i was on dialup for a long damn time [04:08] i am revelling in my high speed now, thankie [04:08] xD [04:08] sproingie, yes... pretty fast burners 52x cdrw [04:08] konki: damn, get all your warez and porn from the library [04:09] konki: where're you from? [04:09] i imagine they block p2p traffic tho [04:09] konki: I was looking a town like your to move xD === poutine [~poutine@cpe-65-24-126-227.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #Kubuntu [04:09] fromoze, portland oregon... [04:09] what is a stable instant message proggie for kubuntu? [04:10] i dont like anything that begins with a G [04:10] epiloc: kopete's all right [04:10] and kopete is falling apart [04:10] How many White Castles? [04:10] kopete keeps crashing [04:10] i dont know why [04:10] lot of kde stuff crashes for me unfortunately === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:10] other than that, it looks nice :) [04:10] alot of hot spots here in portland... usa... next best city to for high speed connection.. [wifi] ... on top is seattle [04:10] they need a serious stability audit [04:10] i just updated to kde 3.4.1 too :( === stef [~stef@p54ABDEBA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:11] i live in san francisco [04:11] i probably don't have to pay for internet if i don't want to [04:11] sproingie: kde it's pretty stable for my... amd64... [04:11] just aim a pringles can just about anywhere [04:11] <_michael> alright - i have cedega installed [04:12] i have DSL on my apartment but my friend had a laptop with wireless connection... over 4 connections here in my apt. [04:12] rcn's pretty good tho. and it's money i don't have to pay comcast [04:12] <_michael> I try to do $cvscedega [04:12] <_michael> wine: chdir to /home/michael/.cvscedega/wineserver-kubuntu : No such file or directory [04:12] I just want to install a scanner. I saw it under the live cd that Ican edit the scanner in the KDE control panel but now I can't find it [04:12] <_michael> can I just make it and not do nething w/ it? [04:13] I just buy a wrt54gs... we got wirless at home now xD === sproingie has only desktop PC's, so no need for wireless [04:13] I installed xsane, kooka ,libscan1 but nothing to configure anywhere. Can someone help? [04:13] even tho my router is also a wireless AP [04:14] <_michael> well I made it and get his error [04:14] <_michael> wine: '/home/michael/.cvscedega/wineserver-kubuntu' must not be accessible by other users [04:14] so chmod 600 it [04:14] who is aikurn ? [04:14] or 700 even === fromoze has just a PC but sometime friends came with laptops [04:14] since YOU probably want to access it [04:14] the city of portland is trying to connect the whole city, for free... we have free connections on the airport too... [04:15] i'm a bit ambivalent about municipal wifi [04:15] konki: free? ... ooouch [04:15] ain't nothing free [04:16] for free, cuz we want business people to come thru our airport when traveling [04:16] will they not do so otherwise? anyway, airports are one thing, city is something else [04:16] maybe by 2-3 years from now the whole city will be connected... === illogic-al [~orville@illogic-al.user.konversation] has joined #kubuntu [04:17] In Spain we need to pay just to be asymetrics xD 4MB/150Kb xD [04:17] that ain't bad [04:17] <_michael> k, so how do i fix my issue, ne1? [04:17] is there a kubuntu x86_64 DVD ? [04:18] I tried Kubuntu on my fiancees PC with a flat panel display and it would not do but 680 x 460 I was so sad [04:18] _michael: use chmod 700. but you installed cedega cvs, you're on your own, really [04:18] _michael: there's a reason people pay for it [04:18] Knoppix was able to recognize it for 800 X 600 [04:18] <_michael> ok [04:18] sproingie: But the price isn't so fun, 50 :/ [04:18] illogic-al: yes, there's one [04:19] that's weird, i don't see what i just said on here [04:19] illogic-al: I don't remember the URL, but there's one with all the main packages [04:19] <_michael> how do I put that command in? [04:19] oh. there it is. i'm going blind :-) === sproingie pats illogic-al on the head [04:19] fromoze: thanks i'll look for it. [04:20] im trying to uninstall ndiswrapper, but keep getting an error [04:20] <_michael> i know $chmod 700 is wrong [04:20] anyone want to see? [04:20] illogic-al, gg: dvdimage kubuntu x86_64 can do it xD [04:20] ur? [04:21] what's the package manager? still synaptic? [04:21] illogic-al: are you usin kde now? [04:21] yip [04:21] push alt+f2 [04:22] fromoze, http://www.wififreespot.com/airport.html check out these airports with free connections.... [04:22] and write this: gg: dvdimage kubuntu x86_64 can do it xD [04:22] and write this: gg: dvdimage kubuntu x86_64 + enter [04:22] that wont work === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@adsl-69-227-57-228.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #KUBUNTU [04:22] "gg dvdimage kubuntu x86_64" will though :-) [04:23] gg: [04:23]