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MezRiddell: ping12:15
RiddellMez: hi12:52
Riddellfromoze: KDE stuff isn't in rosetta yet12:52
MezRiddell: i've just noticed that debian have added a couple of things on k3b, that we havent't like musepakc support etc12:53
Riddelleek!  that'll never do12:53
Riddellwhat's musepack?12:53
MezIt's a type of aido codec12:53
Mezthey also have12:53
Mezlibhal-storage-dev, libpopt-dev12:53
Mezdo we need them - hal support works fine without them12:54
Riddellwhat is popt?12:54
Mez lib for parsing cmdline parameters12:55
Riddellstrange, should be needed by a KDE program12:56
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Mezactually, onely kde app that dpeends on it is kino12:57
Mezto be fair Riddell we're still ahead of them01:01
Riddellphew, you had me worries there01:01
Mezthey're on 0.12.101:01
Mezwe;re on 0.12.201:01
Mezbut, still, shall I add resmgr and musepack support (and not too sure about libhal-storage01:02
Mezor libpopt01:02
Mezplus, they don't have k3b-mp301:03
MezRiddell, I'll leave libpopt and libhal-storage for now01:03
RiddellMez: libmpcdec-dev should be fine, resmgr is in universe so we can't really do that01:05
Mezok01:05
Mezthough to be fair, the build wont work until X is fixed01:05
Riddelland we should dig deeper to find out what popt is for and if hal-storage adds anything01:06
RiddellMez: they don't have k3b-mp3 becau01:06
RiddellMez: they don't have k3b-mp3 because debian doesn't have mp3 issues01:06
MezRiddell, they dont include mp3 suppor at all01:06
MezRiddell, shall i email kelbert?01:07
RiddellMez: they don't?01:07
RiddellI wonder why not01:07
Meznot as far as I can see01:07
Mezoh, sorry they do01:08
MezI didnt notice it01:08
MezRiddell, shall I email kelbert01:08
Riddelldepends libmad0 MPEG audio decoder library01:08
RiddellMez: sure good idea01:08
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pefhi !08:51
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JRehi09:37
pefJRe: hi :)09:40
JRepef: hi09:42
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JReis it the same bug than the one of Kubunt: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6185011:46
JRe???11:46
RiddellJRe: looks like it11:53
JReRiddell: should i give a link to the bug in the ubuntu report ?11:53
RiddellJRe: yes please11:54
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JRepef: better power now ;) ?12:21
pefJRe: quiter :)12:21
pefs/quiter/quieter/12:21
JRepef: ow cool!12:21
\shi think we found one issue on hp 6120 and kubuntu install cd01:23
\sh(hoary)01:23
\shthe germany keyboard layout behaves differently between kubuntu and ubuntu hoary install01:23
\shon hp 612001:23
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JRethe good is pef or pef2 ?01:47
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pefJRe: pef01:49
JRe:)01:49
JReRiddell: oh BTW have you investigated about the possibility to integrate KFtpGrabber or Kasablanca in Breezy, or is it imopssible due to libssl-dev ?02:11
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RiddellJRe: no, I'm still unclear on that02:19
JReRiddell: ok02:19
Riddellare they linked or dlopened?02:20
JReRiddell: linked02:21
JReRiddell: and have GPL + exception02:21
JReRiddell: apparently dlopen is impossible02:21
Riddellaparantly KDE does dlopen02:23
Riddellit all sounds a bit dodgey to me02:23
JReRiddell: okay but it's not good with the GPL + exception ?02:24
JReRiddell: because it's linked to QT which is GPL, right '02:24
RiddellJRe: no because Qt... yes02:24
JReRiddell: aaaarg!02:24
JReRiddell: tough there is many packages GPL and depending on libssl-dev in official repo, no ?02:26
JReRiddell: i don't think that all are dlopened it02:27
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jjessejust wanted to say i reloaded my laptop over the weekend w/ hoary kubuntu (it was an upgrade from warty to hoary and the i added kubuntu instead of just installing kubuntu)02:48
jjesseand the installation was a breeze and it works great so good job :)02:48
jjesseit works wonderful on my laptop and i've had no issues02:48
Riddellwoo!02:49
jjessewaiting now for breezy02:50
JRejjesse: ;)02:51
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\shanybody using actual Xorg -43 and kde?03:22
Riddell\sh: would you recommend it?03:31
\shaehm...keyboard is working (in a strange way but) with kde03:37
\shbut not with gnome ,-)03:37
\shchanging to X ,-)03:37
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\shRiddell: you're scaring me now03:42
\shwhat u did to the control center03:42
Riddell\sh: system settings?03:44
\shyes03:44
Riddellmade it usable :)03:44
\shwindows web style...03:45
Riddell?03:45
\shah...03:46
\shok..kcontrol is old style...and system_setting should replace it?03:46
Riddellit's not like windows at all (it's a rip-off of MacOS)03:50
JReRiddell: fvisibility issue comes from the GCC version ?03:56
RiddellJRe: how do you mean?03:57
Riddellfvisibility is turned on by KDE compile if it detects a good version of GCC03:57
JReRiddell: because on Mandriva, they have GCC 4.0 and there is no fvisibility issue compiling KDE03:58
Riddellthey have gcc 3.4 I think03:58
JReRiddell: ok!03:58
JReRiddell: no apparently they have GCC4 with cooker03:59
JReRiddell: and it works fine03:59
JReRiddell: (i am talking with a mandriva developper)04:00
RiddellJRe: ask him if they had to change anything (such as qt)04:00
JReRiddell: it say me that it probably come from gcc04:01
Riddellwhat does?04:03
RiddellJRe: who are you talking to?04:04
JReRiddell: ok i'll ask to the madriva gcc maintainer04:04
JReRiddell: i'm talking with Laurent Montel which is programming Kat but also working for mandriva 04:05
Riddellaah 04:05
JReRiddell: I gave me the email address of gcc maintainer so i can ask him how he made gcc4 running out of fvisibility issue04:05
JRes/i/He/04:06
\shRiddell: libopenext-dev can't be isntalled because of glu stuff04:33
\shliopenexr even04:34
Riddellah, glu.  what fun04:35
\shyes...and tomorrow is the last date for MOM fixes btw04:37
\shmerges even04:37
JReMOM ?04:38
\shMergeOMatic04:38
\shhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/04:38
\shRiddell: can u fix the deps?04:55
Riddell\sh: just libopenexr you think needing done?04:56
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JReRiddell: okay i have mandriva gcc maintainer response05:26
JReRiddell: the bug is here http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1966405:27
JReRiddell: and he uses this patches:05:27
JReRiddell: http://cvs.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/SPECS/gcc/gcc40-visibility1.patch05:27
JReRiddell: http://cvs.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/SPECS/gcc/gcc40-visibility2.patch05:27
JReRiddell: it does not resolve everything05:27
JRebut it resolves KDE issues05:28
JReRiddell: hope that will help05:28
RiddellJRe: thanks05:28
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\shRiddell: libarts1-dev: depends on  libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3.3.3) but will not be installed :(05:42
Riddelltime for a new chroot05:48
\shpbuilder login05:48
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seth_kRiddell, any timeframe you know of for KDE stuff building again? Is it dependent on Xorg still?10:12
seth_k  kdelibs4-dev: Depends: kdelibs4c2 (= 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu8) but it is not going to be installed10:13
seth_k                Depends: kdelibs-bin (= 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu8) but it is not going to be installed10:13
Riddellseth_k: I need to get my head around it then I'll upload kdelibs (and qt?)10:13
crimsunyeah, still waiting on xbase-clients afaik10:13
RiddellI'll just remove xbase-clients since there's nothing in there and probably won't be ever again10:13
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\shRiddell: can u get rid of xbase-clients during this evening? so I can upload a bunch of MoMs tonight ,-)10:35
Riddell\sh: I'm expeciting it to arrive in breezy-changes any second10:36
\shRiddell: you rock 10:38
Riddellkdelibs_3.4.1-0ubuntu9_source.changes ACCEPTED  there she is10:43
\shpetting kdelibs..compile honey...compile10:44
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\shseth_k: w8 for the archives;)10:46
seth_kyep, just noticed :P10:46
\shand check http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html10:47
Riddellhttp://hwdb.ubuntu.com/buildlogs/10:47
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