[12:15] <Mez> Riddell: ping
[12:52] <Riddell> Mez: hi
[12:52] <Riddell> fromoze: KDE stuff isn't in rosetta yet
[12:53] <Mez> Riddell: i've just noticed that debian have added a couple of things on k3b, that we havent't like musepakc support etc
[12:53] <Riddell> eek!  that'll never do
[12:53] <Riddell> what's musepack?
[12:53] <Mez> It's a type of aido codec
[12:53] <Mez> they also have
[12:53] <Mez> libhal-storage-dev, libpopt-dev
[12:54] <Mez> do we need them - hal support works fine without them
[12:54] <Riddell> what is popt?
[12:55] <Mez>  lib for parsing cmdline parameters
[12:56] <Riddell> strange, should be needed by a KDE program
[12:57] <Mez> actually, onely kde app that dpeends on it is kino
[01:01] <Mez> to be fair Riddell we're still ahead of them
[01:01] <Riddell> phew, you had me worries there
[01:01] <Mez> they're on 0.12.1
[01:01] <Mez> we;re on 0.12.2
[01:02] <Mez> but, still, shall I add resmgr and musepack support (and not too sure about libhal-storage
[01:02] <Mez> or libpopt
[01:03] <Mez> plus, they don't have k3b-mp3
[01:03] <Mez> Riddell, I'll leave libpopt and libhal-storage for now
[01:05] <Riddell> Mez: libmpcdec-dev should be fine, resmgr is in universe so we can't really do that
[01:05] <Mez> ok
[01:05] <Mez> though to be fair, the build wont work until X is fixed
[01:06] <Riddell> and we should dig deeper to find out what popt is for and if hal-storage adds anything
[01:06] <Riddell> Mez: they don't have k3b-mp3 becau
[01:06] <Riddell> Mez: they don't have k3b-mp3 because debian doesn't have mp3 issues
[01:06] <Mez> Riddell, they dont include mp3 suppor at all
[01:07] <Mez> Riddell, shall i email kelbert?
[01:07] <Riddell> Mez: they don't?
[01:07] <Riddell> I wonder why not
[01:07] <Mez> not as far as I can see
[01:08] <Mez> oh, sorry they do
[01:08] <Mez> I didnt notice it
[01:08] <Mez> Riddell, shall I email kelbert
[01:08] <Riddell> depends libmad0 MPEG audio decoder library
[01:08] <Riddell> Mez: sure good idea
[08:51] <pef> hi !
[09:37] <JRe> hi
[09:40] <pef> JRe: hi :)
[09:42] <JRe> pef: hi
[11:46] <JRe> is it the same bug than the one of Kubunt: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61850
[11:46] <JRe> ???
[11:53] <Riddell> JRe: looks like it
[11:53] <JRe> Riddell: should i give a link to the bug in the ubuntu report ?
[11:54] <Riddell> JRe: yes please
[12:21] <JRe> pef: better power now ;) ?
[12:21] <pef> JRe: quiter :)
[12:21] <pef> s/quiter/quieter/
[12:21] <JRe> pef: ow cool!
[01:23] <\sh> i think we found one issue on hp 6120 and kubuntu install cd
[01:23] <\sh> (hoary)
[01:23] <\sh> the germany keyboard layout behaves differently between kubuntu and ubuntu hoary install
[01:23] <\sh> on hp 6120
[01:47] <JRe> the good is pef or pef2 ?
[01:49] <pef> JRe: pef
[01:49] <JRe> :)
[02:11] <JRe> Riddell: oh BTW have you investigated about the possibility to integrate KFtpGrabber or Kasablanca in Breezy, or is it imopssible due to libssl-dev ?
[02:19] <Riddell> JRe: no, I'm still unclear on that
[02:19] <JRe> Riddell: ok
[02:20] <Riddell> are they linked or dlopened?
[02:21] <JRe> Riddell: linked
[02:21] <JRe> Riddell: and have GPL + exception
[02:21] <JRe> Riddell: apparently dlopen is impossible
[02:23] <Riddell> aparantly KDE does dlopen
[02:23] <Riddell> it all sounds a bit dodgey to me
[02:24] <JRe> Riddell: okay but it's not good with the GPL + exception ?
[02:24] <JRe> Riddell: because it's linked to QT which is GPL, right '
[02:24] <Riddell> JRe: no because Qt... yes
[02:24] <JRe> Riddell: aaaarg!
[02:26] <JRe> Riddell: tough there is many packages GPL and depending on libssl-dev in official repo, no ?
[02:27] <JRe> Riddell: i don't think that all are dlopened it
[02:48] <jjesse> just wanted to say i reloaded my laptop over the weekend w/ hoary kubuntu (it was an upgrade from warty to hoary and the i added kubuntu instead of just installing kubuntu)
[02:48] <jjesse> and the installation was a breeze and it works great so good job :)
[02:48] <jjesse> it works wonderful on my laptop and i've had no issues
[02:49] <Riddell> woo!
[02:50] <jjesse> waiting now for breezy
[02:51] <JRe> jjesse: ;)
[03:22] <\sh> anybody using actual Xorg -43 and kde?
[03:31] <Riddell> \sh: would you recommend it?
[03:37] <\sh> aehm...keyboard is working (in a strange way but) with kde
[03:37] <\sh> but not with gnome ,-)
[03:37] <\sh> changing to X ,-)
[03:42] <\sh> Riddell: you're scaring me now
[03:42] <\sh> what u did to the control center
[03:44] <Riddell> \sh: system settings?
[03:44] <\sh> yes
[03:44] <Riddell> made it usable :)
[03:45] <\sh> windows web style...
[03:45] <Riddell> ?
[03:46] <\sh> ah...
[03:46] <\sh> ok..kcontrol is old style...and system_setting should replace it?
[03:50] <Riddell> it's not like windows at all (it's a rip-off of MacOS)
[03:56] <JRe> Riddell: fvisibility issue comes from the GCC version ?
[03:57] <Riddell> JRe: how do you mean?
[03:57] <Riddell> fvisibility is turned on by KDE compile if it detects a good version of GCC
[03:58] <JRe> Riddell: because on Mandriva, they have GCC 4.0 and there is no fvisibility issue compiling KDE
[03:58] <Riddell> they have gcc 3.4 I think
[03:58] <JRe> Riddell: ok!
[03:59] <JRe> Riddell: no apparently they have GCC4 with cooker
[03:59] <JRe> Riddell: and it works fine
[04:00] <JRe> Riddell: (i am talking with a mandriva developper)
[04:00] <Riddell> JRe: ask him if they had to change anything (such as qt)
[04:01] <JRe> Riddell: it say me that it probably come from gcc
[04:03] <Riddell> what does?
[04:04] <Riddell> JRe: who are you talking to?
[04:04] <JRe> Riddell: ok i'll ask to the madriva gcc maintainer
[04:05] <JRe> Riddell: i'm talking with Laurent Montel which is programming Kat but also working for mandriva 
[04:05] <Riddell> aah 
[04:05] <JRe> Riddell: I gave me the email address of gcc maintainer so i can ask him how he made gcc4 running out of fvisibility issue
[04:06] <JRe> s/i/He/
[04:33] <\sh> Riddell: libopenext-dev can't be isntalled because of glu stuff
[04:34] <\sh> liopenexr even
[04:35] <Riddell> ah, glu.  what fun
[04:37] <\sh> yes...and tomorrow is the last date for MOM fixes btw
[04:37] <\sh> merges even
[04:38] <JRe> MOM ?
[04:38] <\sh> MergeOMatic
[04:38] <\sh> http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/
[04:55] <\sh> Riddell: can u fix the deps?
[04:56] <Riddell> \sh: just libopenexr you think needing done?
[05:26] <JRe> Riddell: okay i have mandriva gcc maintainer response
[05:27] <JRe> Riddell: the bug is here http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=19664
[05:27] <JRe> Riddell: and he uses this patches:
[05:27] <JRe> Riddell: http://cvs.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/SPECS/gcc/gcc40-visibility1.patch
[05:27] <JRe> Riddell: http://cvs.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/SPECS/gcc/gcc40-visibility2.patch
[05:27] <JRe> Riddell: it does not resolve everything
[05:28] <JRe> but it resolves KDE issues
[05:28] <JRe> Riddell: hope that will help
[05:28] <Riddell> JRe: thanks
[05:42] <\sh> Riddell: libarts1-dev: depends on  libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3.3.3) but will not be installed :(
[05:48] <Riddell> time for a new chroot
[05:48] <\sh> pbuilder login
[10:12] <seth_k> Riddell, any timeframe you know of for KDE stuff building again? Is it dependent on Xorg still?
[10:13] <seth_k>   kdelibs4-dev: Depends: kdelibs4c2 (= 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu8) but it is not going to be installed
[10:13] <seth_k>                 Depends: kdelibs-bin (= 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu8) but it is not going to be installed
[10:13] <Riddell> seth_k: I need to get my head around it then I'll upload kdelibs (and qt?)
[10:13] <crimsun> yeah, still waiting on xbase-clients afaik
[10:13] <Riddell> I'll just remove xbase-clients since there's nothing in there and probably won't be ever again
[10:35] <\sh> Riddell: can u get rid of xbase-clients during this evening? so I can upload a bunch of MoMs tonight ,-)
[10:36] <Riddell> \sh: I'm expeciting it to arrive in breezy-changes any second
[10:38] <\sh> Riddell: you rock 
[10:43] <Riddell> kdelibs_3.4.1-0ubuntu9_source.changes ACCEPTED  there she is
[10:44] <\sh> petting kdelibs..compile honey...compile
[10:46] <\sh> seth_k: w8 for the archives;)
[10:46] <seth_k> yep, just noticed :P
[10:47] <\sh> and check http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html
[10:47] <Riddell> http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/buildlogs/