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Mezogra_, you still here?12:12
Nafalloanyone else have troubles with evolution's builtin gpg-support?12:13
Mezuse thunderbird :D and enigmail :P12:15
Nafallothat's slow :-)12:15
Nafalloatleast imap is slow.12:16
Mezwhy use IMAP12:16
NafalloMez: all my mail is on my server. when daniels makes x disappear on my laptop I can use my girlfriends shuttle ;-)12:17
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schweebMez: IMAP is god's gift to email12:25
schweebusing POP is silly12:25
MezIMAP = evil12:25
jamessan|laptoptell google that.  they need IMAP access.12:26
tsengfetchmail it to your own server12:26
schweebhow in the hell is IMAP email12:26
schweeber evil12:26
tseng| procmail12:26
jamessan|laptoptseng: that's what I do, but that's still using POP12:26
tsengor even just foward it12:26
schweebmaybe the IMAP server you used sucked.12:26
tsengjamessan|laptop: pop is fine if your client uses IMAP12:26
tsengschweeb: hahaha12:27
tsengschweeb: lets call it dustware12:27
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tsengdovecot orgy12:27
schweebbut, if you plan on using multiple systems, and keeping your mail organized, IMAP is god12:27
tsengschweeb: dont forget procmail12:27
tsengits a must12:27
tsengthe one two knock out12:27
schweebthat was included in the "keeping your mail organized" part of the statement :p12:28
tsengLathiat: dude i am going to write an app in RoR at work tommorow12:28
tsengLathiat: to show off12:28
schweebMez: come up with a valid reason why IMAP sucks, and I might entertain your statement.  otherwise I'm excusing it as ignorance12:29
Mezschweeb, for the simple fact that once you hit a certain mailbox size, it will crash everytime you try to acces it12:30
schweebthat's either a server problem12:31
schweebor a client problem12:31
schweebit's not an IMAP problem12:31
schweebthere is no statement in the RFC that says "you must crash if you touch a mailbox over this large"12:31
schweebI have had users with 10GB mailboxes12:32
schweeb70k+ messages12:32
schweebno prob12:32
schweebjust, not all clients can handle that many messages in one folder12:32
schweeb(outlook, outlook express)12:33
ajmitchI'm seen crap servers that try & load the whole mailbox into memory, doesn't mean that IMAP itself is crap12:33
schweebsounds like Mez's experience is with exchange 5.5 on Outlook 200012:33
schweebajmitch: *cough* UW *cough*12:34
Mezschweeb, nope...12:34
Mezwell,I dunno12:34
Mezjust the uni hit a LOT of problems with my mailbox, and I've never trusted it since12:35
schweebthere's only one reason people still use UW... and that's just because it's there12:35
schweebthat would be the problem of your university's imap implementation12:35
schweebit could have even been their mailstore, or the disk it's stored on12:36
schweebchris@blackbeard:~$ du -sch Maildir12:36
schweeb1.7G    Maildir12:36
comadrejaschweeb : which imap server would you recommend ?12:37
comadrejaschweeb : you made me interested, I'm gonna install one on my server12:38
Nafallodovecot! :-)12:38
Nafalloubuntu default ;-)12:38
comadreja:) cool, I'll try that12:39
schweebdovecot for small implementations12:39
schweebcourier is very reliable, but slower12:39
schweebnot sure how well I trust dovecot yet12:39
schweebor for huge implementations, cyrus12:40
ajmitchdovecot has been adequate for the few times I've used it12:40
comadrejajust personal mail... dovecot will do it, I guess12:40
Nafallodebdiff: fatal error at line 365:12:40
schweebajmitch: once I get more experience w/ it I'll trust it, but I've worked A LOT with courier, and trust it well12:41
Nafallointerdiff -z *1.diff.gz *2.diff.gz failed!12:41
Nafalloactually there are the correct filenames instead of asterisks :-)12:41
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Nafalloajmitch: workaround?12:44
ajmitchI can't recall12:45
Nafalloajmitch: oki, thanx for second the bug then :-).12:46
Lathiattseng: haha12:51
Lathiattseng: nice12:51
Nafallohttp://www.magicalforest.se/tmp/libdc0_0.3.7-2ubuntu2.diff :-)01:08
Nafallogood night all01:28
Nafallosee you tomorrow :-)01:28
ajmitchnight Nafallo01:28
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seth_kif Malone has a bug filed about a package on UniverseUnmetDeps and I've rebuilt it and posted the debdiff on the wiki, is it okay to mark the Malone bug fixed?01:38
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mgalvinhi all, is it know that the libdevil1 and xlibmesa-glu deps still seem to be broken02:01
mgalvinok, thnx, at least its not just me02:02
mgalvini have been trying to get the ceguimk2 and ogre stuff built but these broken deps have been preventing me from getting them built02:03
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ajmitchhello bddebian04:06
bddebianHeya ajmitch04:07
bddebianajmitch: Workin?04:10
bddebianLucky you :-)04:18
bddebianajmitch: Did you actually pull zeiberbude source last night?04:20
bddebianI cannot get my pbuilder to see my local repository :-(04:22
ajmitchyes I looked at the source04:25
bddebianajmitch: Wanna help me fix it? :-)  I know "what" to fix, I just don't know "how" :-)04:26
ajmitchas I said, I'm at work at the moment04:27
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ajmitchso I can't really sit down & study the package :)04:27
bddebianpfft :-)04:28
bddebianDo you know anything about qmake?04:28
chillywillyajmitch: where you workin' at?04:40
ajmitchwriting php, same as always04:40
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chillywillyI said *where*04:41
bddebianNICE, zhcon builds/installs now04:42
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schweebajmitch: I'm working now too... kind of04:55
bddebianHello schweeb, seth_k04:56
seth_khi bddebian04:57
bddebianDo any MOTUs actually look at what has been done on UniverseUnmetDeps?05:03
schweebheh, I dont really check any of that stuff anymore... I really need to start contributing again05:07
schweebcurrently, I'm a little wrapped up in my job05:08
schweeb(especially considering I'm working as we speak)05:08
seth_kbddebian: I'm sure, why?05:09
bddebianschweeb: I just meant in general.  Im not an MOTU so I didn't know if someone actually looked at it that could upload05:10
schweeboh, you're looking for people to upload stuff?05:10
schweebgenerally, the quickest way to get repaired packages looked at is to put them on there, and them poke an MOTU in here to review and upload it05:11
schweebactually... I think REVU is the new system05:11
schweebbut I haven't used it yet05:11
bddebianWell new packages go on REVU yes.  I already have two there ;-)05:11
seth_kyeah, but a lot of UnmetDeps stuff is just build-dep changes or rebuilds, so a debdiff is enough05:11
seth_k(for those ones, that is)05:12
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chillywillyW: smartmontools: copyright-lists-upstream-authors-with-dh_make-boilerplate05:54
chillywillyW: smartmontools: description-synopsis-might-not-be-phrased-properly05:54
chillywillyno idea what those mean05:54
chillywillyI alsop get warning about CVS dirs being present but I did rebuild the package from a CVS checkout :)05:56
bddebianchillywilly: Delete any CVS dirs05:59
chillywillysure, that's an easy fix05:59
bddebianAnd check the copyright and description sections of the files under debian05:59
chillywillyDescription looks fine though06:03
chillywillydpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${misc:Depends}06:04
chillywillythat's interesting06:04
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carlospcHello masters of universe09:52
carlospcan easy question: do you know what happens to the udebs in arch, they pass directly to main/debian-installer or they go first to universe/debian-installer09:52
siretartcarlospc: I think you'll have to ask Kamion, he is our debian installer guru10:01
carlospcsiretart: Ok, thanks in advance10:03
siretarta big THANK YOU to anyone providing these nice .debdiffs for UniverseUnmetDeps!10:05
Amaranthit was one of the backports guys10:15
Amaranthor both10:15
pefA package in UnmetDeps depends on a package which doesn't exists, what should I do ?10:20
pefthe nonexistent package is libwxgtk2.5.3-python10:20
siretartpef: wxwidgets 2.5 is utterly broken and abandoned. try to get it built against 2.6 (if available yet) or 2.410:22
Burgundavia2.6 is NEWed apparently10:22
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Amaranthyeah, wait for 2.610:23
Amaranthonce 2.6 hits i'm going to work on vlc10:23
pefok, thanks10:23
pefis my changelog right ? http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/incoming/libxml-writer-perl-0507161905/libxml-writer-perl_0.545-2ubuntu1.diff.gz10:24
siretartpef: I think so, but I'm not sure, because I don't have time right now to look at the whole package10:27
siretartpef: I do think that revu is not that suited to these kind of updates. better provide debdiffs to the existing package in the archive, since that minimizes reviewing work10:28
pefsiretart: just a question about the revision number, I'm not sure if I just have to add buildx or increase the release number10:28
siretartpef: that depends. if the debdiff really only contains changes to debian/changelog (and it hasn't *ubuntu* in its version string yet), then -Xbuild1 would be right10:29
pefsiretart: so no necessary to add ubuntu to the version ?10:30
siretartpef: but changelog mentions you also touched debian/control. so you'll want prohibit autosyncing from debian by introducing an 'ubuntu' version10:30
pefsiretart: it's an aestetic change, a warning in lintian about the first capital letter of synopsis in debian/control10:31
siretartI see10:31
Amaranthalso, if something just needs a rebuild don't upload a new version just to get it, it'll screw up syncing with debian10:31
pefAmaranth: adding buidx prevents this, right ?10:33
Amaranthchanging anything prevents syncing10:34
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pefsiretart: maybe a stupid question, but where is the location you mean with "better provide debdiffs to the existing package in the archive", is it the unmetdeps wiki page ?10:38
siretartpef: do you have some webspace to put them on? if you don't find an better place, link them from your personal wiki page10:39
pefsiretart: ok for hosting the debfiles, but where should I put the links to theses files ? on my personnal wiki page who will be noticed of theses files ?10:41
siretartping a motu in here from time to time to look at them. sorry, I'm really busy right now10:42
pefsiretart: ok, thanks :)10:43
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\shanyone who can approve, that X is working again on breezy? ,-)10:48
Burgundaviadepends on the person and the machine \sh10:48
Burgundaviamine does, but I run x8610:49
jsgotangcoof you can put your trust on the almighty on this one10:49
\shBurgundavia: well..me too...but after the last 5 tries xorg won...or better to say: god was much stronger then the man infront of the laptop10:50
siretart\sh: following #ubuntu-devel, I'd suspect not yet, but a fix is expected RSN10:50
\shsiretart: -43 is out10:50
\shthat's why i asked10:51
siretartyes, but xbase-clients is still missing10:51
\shah ok...so i'll w8 ,-)10:51
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pefsiretart: can you delete upid 146, 147 and 151 from revu ?11:04
siretartpef: make a comment below, some admin will handle it (there are some;))11:05
pefsiretart: ok, thanks11:06
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j^is someone working on getting http://packages.debian.org/experimental/source/wxwidgets2.6 into universe?11:23
Amaranth<Burgundavia> 2.6 is NEWed apparently11:25
Burgundaviathat is word from elmo11:26
j^ok so its only hold up by missing files in libxxf86vm-dev11:27
Amaranthheld up by general xorg brokenness, probably11:28
j^im not able to compile it since libXxf86vm.la is missing11:28
Amaranth/usr/X11R6/ is gone11:28
Amaranth*poof*, no more11:28
j^not yet11:29
Amaranthwell, don't have wxwidgets2.6 point there11:29
Amaranthmake it look in /usr/lib/X11/11:29
j^hm, i thougth it will all go to /usr/lib, so /usr/X11R6/lib/libXxf86vm.la -> /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.la11:30
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Amaranthno, it's going to /usr/lib/X11/ appearently11:31
Amaranthj^: daniels says that file has never existed and never will....11:31
j^had the same issue with /usr/lib/libXrender.la not being in libxrender-dev11:33
Amaranththat file is dead11:33
Amaranthif anything uses it it's a bug11:33
j^which one?11:34
j^all .la files?11:34
AmaranthlibXrender.la is gone11:37
AmaranthlibXxf86vm.la never existed at all11:37
j^apt-get source libxrender-dev; cd libxrender-0.9.0;echo usr/lib/libXrender.la >> debian/libxrender-dev.install; dpkg-buildpackage i get it though11:40
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j^to my understanding of how libtool works i need libXrender.la to link to it11:43
Amaranthdo not do that11:45
Amaranthno, anything that needs libXrender.la is broken and needs to have a bug filed against it11:45
tsengstatic is teh suck11:46
Lathiatah but stetic is good11:50
Nafallo\sh: ping12:08
Nafallowow! \sh actually away from computer?12:10
tsengits ok, im not12:10
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siretartNafallo: I added you to the revu keyring, you may proceed with uploading now to revu12:26
Nafallosiretart: thanx :-)12:27
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Nafallocould someone upload my diff for libdc0? should be a no-brainer :-)12:35
\shNafallo: i can read everything ,-)12:37
\sheven if i'm not directly here12:38
Nafallo\sh: take that as pong :-)12:38
Nafallo\sh: what do you think about https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1241259&group_id=235&atid=300235 ?12:38
comadrejawhere is libslang2-dev ? I've got a build-dep unmet12:41
comadrejathere is even no libslang212:41
Nafallocomadreja: we are not doing the slang2 transition12:41
\shNafallo: it's XMPP 1.0 standard12:41
comadrejaI see, then aalib has to be changed12:41
\shNafallo: psi and gaim but refusing to implement it, cause it has many other pitfalls...12:41
comadrejaI'll work on that, thanks :)12:42
Nafallo\sh: no clients I know of have honoured them. hence that wishlist bug ;-).12:42
\shNafallo: tkabber12:42
Nafallo\sh: really? when I filled that bug I asked them in #gaim about it. the only problem seemed that noone had the time to implement it.12:43
Nafallo\sh: tk is scary ;-)12:43
\shmy colleagues got new hp laptops12:44
\shhp 612012:44
\shand they didn't order XP with it...so they have freedos per default12:44
\shi told them: new law at hp: order xp or u get freedos and ask \sh for ubuntu *lol*12:44
Nafallohmm, where are the pitfalls with SRV?12:46
\shNafallo: not with DNS SRV but with XMPP 1.0 at all12:47
\shu have to change a lot12:47
\shNafallo: tls must be supported by default12:47
Nafallo\sh: that's not this bug, is it? :-)12:48
\shNafallo: if they implement DNS SRV lookups...they should implement XMPP 1.0 the right way ,-)12:48
\shcause in the DNS SRV record u give the port to connect ... and then the client should decide what to send...plain or tls12:49
\shactually it would also be ok, implement a correct jabber transport handling into gaim12:49
Nafalloshould I bug seb128 about that patch? :-)12:49
\shNafallo: there is only one version of gaim, right? not just like sylpheed and sylpheed claws?12:50
Nafallo\sh: indeed12:50
\shhmmm...i would test it first12:53
Nafallo\sh: I will :-)12:55
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\shNafallo: do u think we can get a dev release of gaim etc?01:00
\shI would like to have it for MOTUIM01:00
Nafallo\sh: dunno. we could always have that in universe I guess?01:01
Nafallo\sh: this patch should go to main gaim though ;-)01:02
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\shNafallo: yeah..just a version with some patches applied which don't go into the main upstream source directly...01:21
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Nafallo\sh: do we need to chat to someone before doing an initial release? :-)01:23
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\shNafallo: yes...it has to go to revu01:24
\shlet us discuss this on -devel01:24
\shI want to have the same for psi01:24
Burgundavialook for tamir01:24
\shand also kopete01:24
Burgundaviait is Corey Burger01:25
\shNafallo: i will propose something on #ubuntu-devel01:26
\shaeh ubuntu-devel ML ,-)01:27
Nafallo\sh: ahh, oki :-). and then you're probably recruting me for motuIM? ;-)01:27
\shNafallo: if you're the one who is taking care about gaim, feel free to join :)01:30
Nafallomight aswell want to do that indeed ;-)01:31
Nafallogaim ftbfs here ;-)01:32
Nafalloand that's the version in the archive.01:32
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\shNafallo: mail send01:39
\shif you have something to add, please do :)01:40
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Burgundaviatamir, you here?01:48
Burgundaviawelcome to the #ubuntu-motu01:50
tamirthanks :)01:50
Burgundaviait is 4:50 am for me, so I am going to keep it short01:50
tamirmm ok01:51
Burgundaviabasically, if you want your changes to make it into ubuntu, take the source package from breezy01:51
Burgundaviamake your changes and then upload to a tool called REVU01:51
comadrejasiretart : ping01:51
tamirI dont understand01:51
tamirwhat are you talking about?01:52
Burgundaviafor the amd64 stuff you have been doing01:52
tamirDo you want me to upload debs to you?01:53
tamiras a mirror?01:53
Burgundaviathe REVU tool was created by siretart01:53
Burgundaviait allows the masters of the universe to vet your changes01:53
tamiryeah I see01:53
tamirwhich changes?01:54
Burgundaviaif they like them, they upload your changes into ubuntu01:54
Burgundaviaanything you did to get a package working on amd6401:54
siretartif your changes to the source package are rather small, a .debdiff is prefered, though. this minimizes reviewing work01:54
tamirmm I don't understand. realy. I don't know ever who is the masters01:54
Burgundaviathe masters of the universe is a joke name01:55
Burgundaviafor those who manage the universe repo01:55
tamirahh ok01:55
siretartyou may also say 'maintainers' of the universe, that probably fits better01:55
Burgundaviasiretart, for background tamir has been doing some amd64 specific stuff on the forums01:55
Burgundaviaso I invited him here, so that a larger audience can enjoy his work01:56
siretartcool, welcome on board tamir!01:56
tamirso what should I upload ant what for01:56
tamirSorry but my english is not very well :/01:56
ogra_\sh, you know that gaim is in main ?01:57
Nafalloogra_: gaim-universe isn't :-)01:57
ogra_huh, gaim-universe ?01:58
Nafalloogra: or what we want to call it. I suppose you talk about \sh's mail to ubuntu-devel?01:59
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comadrejasiretart : could you check bugzilla #12673 ? I have added a comment01:59
ogracall it gaim-cvs or gaim-snapshot then01:59
siretartcomadreja: not right now, sorry. will do later01:59
comadrejasiretart : sure01:59
Nafalloogra: we want something like gaim-devel to do things with gaim we shouldn't do to the package in main. test new features and stuff :-).01:59
Burgundaviatamir, any changes you have made to make a package work on amd64 when it didn't previously02:00
Nafalloogra: in the mail it's called gaim-devel. anyway, the names isn't the problem atm. we wanted input from people like seb128 if we should go ahead or if he has any objections :-)02:01
ograyep, i understand... but dont call it -devel (might be confusing with the -dev) and dont bind it to the component (universe)02:01
tamirBut I didn't make changes, I just made it, no-one made before me02:01
Burgundaviatamir, best to see first if the issue still exists on Breezy (the next development version)02:01
tamirYeah good idea02:02
Nafalloogra: hmm, yea. that's a good point :-).02:02
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Burgundaviatamir, cheers. I need to sleep now. ogra or siretart will be able to help you if you get stuck02:05
tamirBurgundavia: But the most of my package is for main02:05
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tamiractually I dont have what to do02:05
SloMoSnailcan someone on amd64 test if python-gnome2-dev is installable?02:06
tamirthat because I didnt make changes02:06
Burgundaviatamir, e17 currently doesn't exist in Ubuntu02:06
tamirI make debs of that02:07
\shogra: yes...thats why I asked..I want to have gaim-devel in universe02:07
Nafallo\sh: or gaim-somegoodname :-)02:07
Burgundaviatamir, those can be uploaded to revu02:07
\shNafallo: yeah02:07
tamirmm ok02:08
tamirhow I do that?02:08
\shogra: propose something...right now...I'm having troubles with Nokia Dbox1 and new smartcard series :(02:08
Burgundaviathere is the process02:08
tamirok thanks02:08
ogra\sh, gaim-cvs02:08
ogra\sh, gaim-snapshot ?02:08
\shgaim-motuim ,-)02:08
Nafallogaim-experimental :-)02:09
ograhmm, how do you pronounce motuim ?02:09
\shu got it02:09
\shu got me02:09
\shactually...the meaning is: MOTU-InstantMessaging02:09
\shbut you can pronounce it as : MOTU-I'm (I am)02:10
Burgundaviatamir, good luck and thanks02:10
tamir:) no problem02:10
Nafallohaha! yoda inspired ;-)02:11
\shNafallo: but it wasn't thinking about that...It came to me after I created the page...and I said: ok, nobody will see it, or is taking care about it..02:11
\shbut ogra...he's our boss :)02:12
\shhe saw it right away *lol*02:12
ograboss ?huh ?02:12
ograi'm no boss :)02:12
Nafallos/boss/master/ then ;-)02:13
Nafallokinky :-)02:13
\shogra: you were thinking about this pronounciation?02:13
ograheh, yes02:13
ogra\sh, but call it what you want, as long as seb128 and the rest is fine with such a package02:14
\shogra: actually I don't want to interfere with anybody02:14
ograyes, thats good02:15
\shso...if we can have a package like gaim-snapshot or psi-cvs I'm fine...02:15
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tamircan someone please explain what gnupg is?02:18
\sha crypt tool02:18
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siretartwe really need some wiki page giving pointers to good gpg tutorials and a quick gpg howto..02:19
tamirsorry for my english, but I realy don't understand what crypt means02:19
TreenaksI have a Dutch version...02:19
Treenakstamir: cryptography02:19
NafalloTreenaks: translate it ;-)02:19
tamirok now I understand02:20
tamirwith babylon :)02:20
TreenaksNafallo: well, babelfish doesn't mess it up too bad...02:20
TreenaksNafallo: foodfight.org/ondertekenen02:20
tamirbut what should we use it for?02:20
Treenakstamir: it's used for lots of things already02:21
NafalloTreenaks: that's not swedish ;-)02:21
TreenaksNafallo: it's close.. Dutch should be readable if you know Swedish :) babelfish can translate02:21
NafalloTreenaks: I know swedish and that you are wrong ;-)02:22
TreenaksNafallo: just try ;)02:22
Nafallojust did :-P02:22
Treenakstamir: for example, it's used for uploading packages to Ubuntu: a developer uses gnupg to "sign" it, so the server knows it has not changed, and that is has been uploaded by an authorized developer02:23
NafalloTreenaks: anyway. translate it to english if it's a good explanation of gpg and put it on the wiki ;-)02:23
tamiroh ok02:23
Treenakstamir: that's a very simple version of the explanation though :) you can use it for lots of other things02:23
TreenaksNafallo: doesn't babelfish work for you?02:25
tamirI am not trying to deb koffice 1.4 for amd6402:25
NafalloTreenaks: I dunno. I won't need that tutor :-)02:25
tamirI will take a look on breezy02:25
tamirwhere I check it?02:25
tamirpackages.ubuntu.com is not helping me02:26
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tamirmm actually I see there02:29
tamirkoffice 1.402:29
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siretarthi zyga02:45
zygagnome baker has released version 0.402:45
zygaI'm looking for a way to add it to hoary or probably backports02:46
Amaranthwho do i talk to to get vlc 0.8.2 synced from sid?02:46
zyga(hello siretart)02:46
tamircan I get here support about debing too?02:46
Amaranthi mean, it's going to need work after the sync (theora_pic, bad X path, wxwidgets2.6) but i thought i should get a regular sync before working on an 0.8.2 package02:47
Amaranthtamir: no02:47
Amaranthif you meant debian02:47
siretarttamir: sure you can ask any packaging related question here!02:47
siretarttamir: we will try to help you as much we can02:48
tamirhuh, I have a problem on compiling a deb02:48
tamirto show output here?02:48
siretarttamir: use paste.debian.net for longer pastes02:49
tamirit is not long02:50
siretartzyga: there will be no updates to hoary, except security updates02:50
tamir6 lines02:50
siretarttamir: everything >3 lines is long ;)02:50
zygahow does translation from rosetta find their way to packages02:50
tamir:) ok02:50
zygagnomebaker is semi translated at runtime and fully translated in rosetta02:50
tamir:) I just made deb of gnomebaker02:50
siretartzyga: for backports, ask Mez, I'm not uptodate with that02:50
zygatamir: great!02:51
tamirbut for amd6402:51
zygatamir: could I recompile it for i386?02:51
tamirI can do for i386 on chroot02:51
zyga(I've got amd64 too but it's not ready yet02:51
zygaI've just burned colony cd 2 though)02:51
tamirfor amd64 visit my repository:02:51
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tamirdeb tamir.nooms.de/ubuntu hoary main02:52
Amaranthoh, you meant packaging :)02:52
Amaranthi thought you wanted help with some random debian issue02:52
zygatamir: do you have a src repository?02:53
tamirno I am working on it02:53
ograAmaranth, as i tell you every day, wait for wxwin2.6 to pass NEW....02:53
ogra(for vlc that is)02:53
Amaranthogra: I know about that02:53
Amaranththat's not why i want a sync02:53
ograAmaranth, syncing it now would be silly...02:53
tamirI have a problem while compiling koffice :02:54
zygatamir: is that a .tar.gz for sure?02:54
tamirare you talking about koffice?02:54
tamiror gnomebaker02:55
zygatamir: the former02:55
tamirI downloaded from breezy the .dsc .orig.tar.gz .diff02:55
zygawhat does file * says?02:56
tamirwhen I write dpkg-buildpackage again i get:02:57
tamirdpkg-source: building koffice using existing koffice_1.4.0.orig.tar.gz02:57
tamirdpkg-source: failure: unable to create `koffice_1.4.0.orig.tar.gz.tmp-nest': File exists02:57
tamirI googled it, and it didn't help02:59
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zygatamir: I'm not good at building deb's I don't know how to help you03:02
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ogratamir, why do you build these things ? gnomebaker and koffice are already in ?03:08
tamirit is for hoary03:09
tamirfor amd6403:09
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drcodehi all03:11
drcodeany one up03:11
ogratamir, ah, yes03:12
SloMoSnailhi drcode03:12
drcodeI am looking for opendev03:13
drcodeI Have idea for some project that will take linux some steps forward03:14
SloMoSnailwhat is opendev? but tell us more :)03:14
drcodeMy Idea is to bring linux into all users03:15
drcodeIt mean to develope some gui tool03:15
drcodethat will work in gnome/xfce/kde03:15
tamirthere are some dists for that03:15
drcodeand be main setup tool03:15
tamirlike mandriva, fedota03:16
zygalike suse's thing? what's it's called?03:16
drcodeU mean hardware ?03:16
SloMoSnailzyga: yast iirc03:16
drcodeU didnt understand03:16
zygayast, that's it03:16
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drcodethose tools are for hw03:16
SloMoSnailogra: MOM?03:17
Treenaksmother of all merges?03:17
zygadrcode: so what's that tool would be for?03:18
ograSloMoSnail, http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/03:19
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drcodefor users that are not profesnal with computer03:19
zygaYour involvement03:19
drcodethay get shook to write and type and so03:20
tamirdrcode: for that we have mandriva03:20
\shX is starting, in gdm or xdm i can enter my user+pass...but in gnome...no keyboard03:20
tamiror fedora03:20
drcodelet me read about03:20
drcodea min03:20
tamirmany guis03:20
ogra\sh, careful, dont complain to daniels....03:20
\shmy fault anyway03:21
ogranope, seb128's fault, as always ;)03:21
\shkde is working?03:21
ogra\sh, whom do you ask that ?03:21
Goshawki bought a new laptop (amd64) and i need ndiswrapper (that i've already compiled by myself) why in the ubuntu repo there is only the i386 version?03:22
\shanybody != ogra ,-)03:22
zygaGoshawk: probably because ndiswrapper uses 32bit windows drivers03:22
tamirGoshawk: see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4890503:22
Goshawkzyga, i'm on a 64 bit03:22
zygaGoshawk: I know03:23
Goshawkand i'm using my wlan0 interface03:23
Goshawkso why not compile a ndiswrapper-util for amd64?03:23
zygaGoshawk: hmmm?03:23
zygaGoshawk: how did you get your wlan0 working?03:23
Goshawki get the amd64 drivers from internet03:24
Goshawkzyga, it was easy03:24
\shogra: no really...strange thing...gdm == keyboard is working (mainly, not all of it) but in gnome itself..no ways03:24
Goshawkfollow this03:24
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Goshawki'm on a asus a6770klh03:24
Goshawkzyga, wait i'm loading the thread at ubuntuforum03:25
Goshawkhere it is : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3192603:25
ograGoshawk, ndiswrapper for amd64 it not officially in a stable upstream release yet... if it gets there, you'll find it in ubuntu too03:25
Goshawki get the lastes stable of ndiswrapper atsurgeforge03:25
Goshawkcompiled and installed the amd64 drivers03:25
Goshawkand this is available from 5 may 0503:26
ograyou asked why its not in l-r-m yet03:26
Goshawk2 months ago03:26
Goshawkyep... ok so i'll find it soon, isn't it?03:26
Goshawkps: it works at 100% using both b/g standards03:26
ograas long as upstream doesnt consider it stable, no, and according to their words its not stable yet03:26
ograsince its a very intrusive change to the l-r-m package03:27
Goshawkehm excuse me but what's "l-r-m"?03:28
ograGoshawk, btw, thats the wrong channel for this discussion.... nobody here touches kernel packages :)03:28
ogralinux-restricted-modules, the package that contains ndiswrapper03:28
Goshawk??? are you sure?03:28
Goshawkthis says different03:29
NafalloGoshawk: really? it says ndiswrapper-_source_ is in universe03:30
ograit doesnt say anything about ndiswrapper... its the scripts and the source03:30
ograbut anyway, thats offtopic here03:30
Nafalloogra: remind me to never touch ndiswrapper-foo btw ;-)03:31
Goshawkndiswrapper-utils is the needed package. ok stop blaming, sory03:31
ograndiswrapper-utils is a collection of scripts, it doesnt contain ndiswrapper03:32
ograthe binary parts are in l-r-m03:32
SloMoSnaili'll leave now... will be back in 2 hours ;) bye bye03:43
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Nafallo\sh: seb reacted :-)03:46
\shNafallo: ml?03:47
\shi only read siretarts and mez reply03:47
Nafallo\sh: #ubuntu-devel ;-)03:47
Mezsorry somethign to do with me?03:48
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\shNafallo: actually I don't want to bug seb128 because of this, cause it should be application testing with some improvements, which can be ported to main packages03:51
tamirI am building now a deb of firefox 1.1 alpha 203:51
Nafallo\sh: indeed.03:52
Nafallo\sh: but then again. it's not gaim-cvs, it is gaim-with-unofficial-patches or something :-)03:53
Nafallohmm, I should ubuntuify jigit03:54
Mezspeaking of gaim03:55
Mezgaim-assistant on revu :D hehe03:55
comadrejacould somebody review clanlib, gcl and gmail-notify ?03:58
bddebianThere is quite a bit on REVU ;-)04:01
comadrejadon't tell me, my hands are tied04:01
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comadrejaI can't review packages04:02
bddebianI know, I was kidding :-)04:02
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ograguys first priority are the 200 merge bugs that are waiting !! not reviewing.... we can get the NEW stuff later in !! deadline for meges is TOMORROW !04:04
davehi, is anyone experiences with preseeding the installer and a custom boot cd ?04:04
ogradave, wrong channel04:04
davereally ? where to go to ?04:04
daveubuntu-devel ?04:04
ograthe installer isnt in universe ;)04:04
davethx - will ask there04:05
comadrejaogra, what's the official position regarding slang2 ? should it be removed ? substituted by slang1 ?04:05
ogracomadreja, no idea... currently04:06
comadrejaogra, clanlib solves a bug in unmetdeps btw04:06
siretartcomadreja: ask Kamion04:06
comadrejagcl too04:06
comadrejaI mean because it's in revu, maybe that's one of the bugs you were talking04:06
Nafalloogra: I have another main-patch on the way ;-)04:07
comadrejabtw, how can I help with those merges04:08
Nafallocomadreja: ignore the jigit merge :-)04:08
ogracomadreja, i'm talking about 200 merge bugs in MOM that need to be fixed tomorrow... nobody cared about it since someone made reviewing the highest prio...04:08
ogracomadreja, look in bugzilla for "merge" and for universe stuff in this list: http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/xscreensaver/04:10
siretartperhaps it would be best to attach debdiffs to the bugreports04:11
ograerr without xscreensaver indeed :)04:12
bddebianogra: Merge bugs??04:12
ograsiretart, yes, if there are bugs... not all stuff is bugged yet04:12
siretartogra: oh.. hm04:13
ograhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/ not http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/xscreensaver/04:13
bddebianOhh, the MOM stuff04:13
ograyes !04:13
bddebianNo one would ever explain that process to me when I was trying to fix xfwm04:13
\shogra: and what about version upgrades?04:15
bddebianSo stop on UniverseUnmetDeps and look at MOM?04:17
ogra\sh, thats what the merging is about...04:17
ogra\sh, merge the ubuntuX changes into the new debian version04:17
bddebianogra: Isn't bugzilla for main bugs only now??04:17
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ograbddebian, look at the "UNKNOWN" ones04:18
\shogra: that wasn't my question...upstream version freeze ,-)04:18
ogra\sh, not for the merges tht exist as bugs04:18
\shah ok04:19
ogramerge them and close the bug....04:20
Nafalloyay! no firefox. who wants to bug seb about it? ;-)04:23
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siretartogra: throw out revu from topic04:23
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ograthats better :)04:24
ogramostly its only rebuilding the available package thats linked in the bugreport (i guess thats 80%)04:25
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bddebianogra: Is this MOTUs only?04:26
ograthe other 20% will need some love04:26
ograbddebian, the tinyurl list, yes04:26
infinitohi everyone04:27
bddebianIs that a shortened url for the list you pasted earlier?04:27
bddebianHello infinito04:27
infinitodo anyone know if there's anyway otherthan irc to ask for a debian->universe sync?04:28
ogratseng, there is also mono in the list, i guess most of them can just get closed, could you look through the list ?04:28
ograbddebian, nope, its a shotened url for only universe bugs in this list04:28
bddebianogra: OK, so what should us "slaves" be doing for you?? :-)04:29
ograplease everyody look through the list, i know there are some packages where a new version is already in, so if you touched such a package, and its uploaded already, just close the bug04:29
ograif its not in yet, try a recomplie of the source package thats linked in the bug.... if that works, upload and close the bu04:30
ograinfinito, we have MOTUToSync on the wiki...04:31
ograinfinito, but asking here is mostly the quicker way04:31
\shdamn shit X04:31
ograin other news we are in upstream version freeze ;)04:31
ogra(means we dont sync anymore without approval)04:32
infinitowe we're waiting for gcfilms to get synched for a while04:32
ograyour 2 weeks to late :), which package did you want to have synced04:32
ograinfinito, where did you request the sync ?04:33
infinitowe filled a request on UniverseCandidates04:33
infinitodidn't know about MOTuToSync04:33
ograinfinito, i should have gotten synced automatically... without any action... since when is it in debian ?04:34
\shI can't compile KDE stuff..04:34
infinitonot sure, but i think just onw week or two04:34
infinitoit taken too long to get into debian, the packager was missing :(04:34
ograhmm, a bit late...04:34
infinitoi didn't know about the freeze04:35
ograbut i'll see what we can do about it04:35
\shhow should I fix the bugs until tomorrow04:35
infinitothat will be great04:35
ograour release schedule is public ;)04:35
ogra\sh, yes, because nobody listens since weeks if i say reviewing shouldnt be our first prio... :(04:36
ogra\sh, the merge buglist is there since months...04:36
infinitoogra, yeah i know, im stupid04:36
\shogra: no..liopenexr-dev04:36
\shglu fun04:36
ograinfinito, nah... probably we should make it more public :)04:36
tamirI made a deb for firefox 1.1 alpha 2, vet unstable!04:37
bddebianogra: "nobody listened for weeks when I said" ???04:37
ograbddebian, i had some heavy discussions with dholbach about it... and mentioned it in the channel...04:38
ograbddebian, not merging means we go with hoary versions of these 200 packaes :(04:39
bddebianogra: That was an "English correction" statement :-)04:39
ograoh, ok, thanks04:39
bddebianogra: I'd love to help but I'm not MOTU I guess04:39
ograespecially some ion3 users will be upset if we ship the version i broke in hoary :)04:40
infinitoogra, so is there any way to get gcfilms into breezy?04:40
ograbddebian, just do the testcompiles... and add info to te bug...04:40
ograinfinito, yes, patience ... i'll try to get it synced... but cant promise anything....04:40
bddebianogra: But how do I know if someone is already working on it?04:41
ograhmm, dunno...04:41
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Nafalloogra: should we announce here stuff that builds? :-)04:41
infinitoogra, ok, thank you04:41
ograNafallo, hmm, sounds good...04:41
bddebianogra: :-)04:42
ograNafallo, i think first we should compare versions, i guess a lot of packages already have newer versions through other transitions...i doubt everybody checked the merge bugs before uploaing something04:42
Nafalloogra: we should notice with apt-get source I guess? :-)04:44
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Nafallolibapache-mod-musicindex is a rebuild :-)04:45
siretartogra: I already synced up ion3 after having a small chat with nobse ;)04:45
ograsiretart, did you check this ? http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/ion3/04:45
siretartthis was a few weeks ago, not sure if up already made upload since then04:46
ograMOM tried to merge it 3 days ago04:46
Nafallohmm, mark PENDINGUPLOAD or not? :-)04:46
siretartogra: ok, this definitly need additional syncing. right. From the first glance, MOM merge seems to be fine04:47
ograNafallo, nothing in the dropped patch ?04:47
ogralook at the stuff that got dropped first....04:47
siretartmodulo manual check of X build dependencies, which are problematic atm anyway :/04:47
siretartogra: the dropped patch for ion3 is only the build depends line, see above04:48
ogralooking at it04:48
Nafalloogra: libflac-dev (>= 1.1.1-3) instead of libflac-dev04:49
Nafalloas b-d04:49
ograhmm, i think we'll need a wikipage to keep track...sad04:49
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Nafalloogra: hmm, we could drop ubuntu1 on libapache-mod-musicindex btw04:53
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Nafalloogra: that should be a goal to I guess?04:53
ograNafallo, yes04:53
Nafalloogra: then it's drop ubuntu :-)04:54
ograis the debian version newer ?04:55
\shok...going home and try to merge whatever i can ,-)04:56
Nafalloogra: yes04:56
ograNafallo, drop the ubuntu version then :)04:56
ograprobably a category on the wikipage would make sense, i suspect there are more04:57
Nafalloogra: something like that? :-)04:58
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Nafalloogra: what's broken btw?05:05
ogranot mergeable05:05
Nafalloah, oki05:05
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bddebianBut the MOM process it a little b0rked, imo05:13
Nafallobddebian: why?05:14
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bddebianJust because the docs don't make sense.05:16
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Nafallodoes python have to be versioned?05:20
Nafalloi.e. http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/rss2email/05:20
whiprushtseng: btw, muine + AS + ruffle has been rock solid for me now. So whatever you did, yay!05:22
NafalloLathiat: why is that?05:23
LathiatNafallo: because its the way it is05:23
NafalloLathiat: thats a no good explanation. python, python-dev should bring in 2.4 on breezy?05:24
LathiatNafallo: yep05:24
Lathiatread the diff from when dholbach changed it last time05:24
NafalloLathiat: yea. those changed could be dropped if I understand this correctly :-).05:25
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chillywillyI think ubuntu should really start using chkconfig because everyone else does, even gentoo05:38
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Lathiatchillywilly: wtf is that05:51
\shthe same thing as update-rc.d but with a redhat interface05:52
\shcli tool05:52
\shactually it's nice...for beginners05:54
Lathiathow is it different to update-rc.d05:54
Lathiatbeginners have the new gui tool :)05:54
\shchillywilly: gentoo is not using anymore rc-update?05:54
\shLathiat: the last time I used it was with redhat 7.305:55
\shafter I left the company05:55
Lathiatyou worked for redhat?05:55
Lathiatwhat did you do?05:55
ogragentoo is using tools ? i thought you have to hexcode the stuff in init ;)05:55
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\shLathiat: web engineering and some web marketing05:56
Lathiathas anyone else noticed icon sizes playing up05:56
Lathiatlike sometimes in file chooser i'll have 1 large icon05:56
\shand in my sparetime packaging05:56
Lathiatand my recent documents menu, with video files, theyre all big icons05:56
Lathiatseems to be sorta random05:56
Lathiatmaybe its just the GNOME theme05:56
Lathiathm nope, in human too05:57
Lathiatpy files trigger it in the file chooser05:57
\shogra: is it storming at your place? ,-)05:59
ogranot today...ysterday was bad05:59
chillywillywell, it looks like a nice tool05:59
\shhere it's storming like hell05:59
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\shchillywilly: I don't think Gentoo is using chkconfig06:00
chillywillystormig here too06:00
chillywillyif I package up 3dm2 non-free 3ware utility for RAID cards and/or tw_cli where would that package live?06:01
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siretartchillywilly: most probably in multiverse06:02
Nafalloogra: broken == patch in bugzilla? ;-)06:05
ograif its fixable its not broken :)06:05
Nafalloogra: so where do you want me debdiffs then? :-)06:06
ograbugzilla is fine... but we'll need a new category i guess...06:06
siretartchillywilly: is 3dm2 freely distributable at all?06:06
Nafallo*sigh* I should be a motu ;-)06:06
\shNafallo: u will06:07
ograNafallo, wait until tuesday ;)06:07
Nafallo\sh: yea. everyone seems to be convinced about that :-P.06:07
Nafalloogra: TB?06:07
siretartwheeez, how time's passing by...06:07
ograNafallo, so relax... if we are convinced, you have no coice ;)06:08
Nafalloogra: you're not saying that I should apply already, are you? :-)06:08
ograi do...06:08
ograNafallo, you are able to do good packages, know about patching and i trust you to handle the MOTUness carefully...06:08
ograso why should i say no :)06:09
NafalloI can't program? I can apply patches, and understand roughly what they do, but I can't program :-/.06:09
\shNafallo: who can actually?06:09
ograthats exactly what a MOTU does :)06:09
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ograapply patches ;)06:10
NafalloI have to make a major retune of my brain :-P06:10
ograand ask a programmer if you dont know further (thats what i mean with handle the MOTUness carefully...)06:10
bddebianw00t Nafallo :-)06:10
Nafalloyea, that's what I do when I can't figure stuff out myself :-)06:11
ograNafallo, you wouldnt believe how often i need help...06:11
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Nafalloyikes :-)06:11
bddebian+1 Nafallo :-)06:11
ograNafallo, btw, add the package to pending and put a note aside that there is a patch in bugzilla06:12
Nafalloogra: oki :-)06:12
\shwhat should I do with a package which is from december, at least now hitted debian06:12
\shand the actual stable release is 1.0.8?06:12
ograsync ?06:12
\sh1.0.0 is debian06:13
\sh1.0.8 is upstream,06:13
ograa meger ?06:13
\shand 1.0.0 doesn't build06:13
ogramerger ...06:13
ograclose the bug...06:13
\shdon't do anything with it?06:13
ograwith a note that we have a newer version already06:13
\shwe don't06:13
\shwe have 0.99.406:14
\shdebian 1.0.006:14
\shand upstream 1.0.806:14
ograah... i thought we had 1.0.806:14
siretartif you can check that 1.0.8 works, I'd say upgrade..06:14
\shlemme check06:16
Nafallohow to add debian pubkey for their archive? :-)06:17
\shit must go to UVF commitee, right?06:18
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\shanybody have a clue what or where i can find ifreq?06:23
\shit's a struct ,-)06:23
tsengogra: you mean like uninstallable mono on amd64?06:25
tsengogra: all of that should be fixed to the best of my knowledge06:25
ogratseng, nope, these are merge bugs from the automerger06:25
tsengi see06:25
tsengi didnt know what list you were refering to at all06:26
tsengcan you mail me that06:26
tsengi need to work06:26
\shtseng...u know where ifreq is w8ing for me? ,-)06:26
\shshould be a struct06:27
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\shin linux/if.h06:29
Nafallohmm http://ftp-master.debian.org is out-of-date ;-)06:30
\shbut userspace shouldn't include to linux/*?06:30
Nafalloanyone know where I can find debians public key for their archive?06:30
\shwhat was the famous paste web service?06:41
siretartNafallo: package 'debian-keyring'06:41
siretart\sh: paste.debian.net06:41
Nafallosiretart: I found the key. Now I have to figure out how to get it into trusted.gpg ;-)06:43
siretartNafallo: use apt-key(1)06:43
Nafallosiretart: ahh, thanx :-)06:43
\shcan someone have a look on http://paste.debian.net/126206:43
\shi have the same bug with 1.0.0 and 1.0.8 of netapplet06:44
comadrejaI've seen it06:45
comadrejaYou've gotta search for the ifr header06:45
comadrejaand include it in the failing file06:45
\shstruct ifreq is in net/if.h06:45
\shand it's included06:46
\shifr ist the var06:46
\shstruct ifreq ifr;06:46
comadrejadid you do an update ?06:46
\shupdate of what?06:46
comadrejaof `builder06:46
comadrejaI had similar failures with other code06:47
comadrejachaning the order of the header fixed them06:47
comadrejaYes, I don't understand it06:47
\shmoment i give u the include list ,)06:48
comadrejatry putting net/if.h, the last one06:49
comadrejanopes ?06:53
\shi don't have bracket06:53
\shaltgr is not working *grmpf*06:53
comadrejaoh, yes, I had to use xmodmap06:53
\shsend me the Xmodmap ,-)06:54
comadrejait's a spanish keyboard06:54
comadrejause xkeycaps06:55
comadrejathat'll make it06:55
\shxbase-clients *lol*06:57
\shcopying from -3606:57
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\shcomadreja: nope07:11
Nafalloreminder: do not mark all mail in a folder and press forward in evolution!07:12
Nafallofrom taskbar: evolution-2.4 (78)07:13
\shi found something07:14
comadrejathat's cool :)07:15
\shbut -D_GNU_SOURCE should help?07:16
\shi don't believe it07:16
\shlol it helped07:16
\shbut now i have other problems ,-)07:16
\shfor 1.0.8 let check 1.0.007:16
comadrejadon't get it07:18
\shdebian netapplet 1.0.0 is not compilable07:18
\shbecause of this "struct ifreq" issue07:19
\shand it works07:19
\shit finds struct ifreq in net/if.h07:19
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\shnow I tried 1.0.8 lates upstream source of netapplet...and it has other errors.07:20
\shso I will merge 1.0.0 ,-)07:20
bddebian\sh: Cheater ;-)07:24
\shbut even this means i have to patch07:24
\shcause 1.0.0 from debian declares _GNU_SOURCE in netline.c07:24
\shso I can't declare it globally07:24
\shI will make my day07:25
\shpatch applied...lets see07:26
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\shok..ifreq found..07:28
\shbut size_changed_cb redefined07:29
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\shi don't get it07:32
\shstatic void size_changed_cb(void)... actually i'm not a gtk guy..but shouldn't that be a static void *?07:33
\shit's correct07:37
ogra\sh, only merge it, no need to rewrite the whole thing ;)07:39
\shogra: harhar07:41
\shfck source07:41
\shgtk stuff07:41
tsengez gtk boog07:42
\shthe hole .diff.gz is in da *censored*07:42
\sheasy solution07:43
comadrejaogra, help07:47
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comadrejaI have no permisions to solve a bug on bugzilla :)07:47
comadrejathat is kismet merge07:47
ogracomadreja, whats your login ?07:47
ogracomadreja, should work now07:48
comadrejathanks :)07:49
Nafalloogra: what do base the debdiffs against? :-)07:49
Nafalloogra: debian or ubuntu?07:49
ograubuntu ?07:49
Nafallodooh :-P07:50
\shand this is sometimes wrong.(07:51
Nafalloogra: *sigh* any workaround for when debdiff can't handle things for me? i.e. diffrent .orig.tar.gz07:52
ogramanual intervention ? or leave it for someone else...07:53
slomoogra: and any workarounds for really really large debdiffs (the debian version includes new config.sub etc in the diff.gz)07:55
slomoogra: and for http://pastebin.com/31718007:55
ograslomo, err, wanst libsigc++ in the Cxx transition ?07:56
slomoogra: it was but debian made some further changes we don't have atm... i've readded the cxx transition stuff which couldn't be applied automatically07:58
ograbut if our version worked for us i'm not sure if we want to make additional changes now...07:59
ograprobably a doko question07:59
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Nafalloogra: dooh. never mind my workaround thing...08:00
slomook... then i'll leave stuff which was through cxx transition until he answers ;)08:01
\shi ive up08:03
\shthom rewrote the whole thin08:03
\shto a real applet08:03
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Amaranth\sh: taking about network-manager?08:07
Amaranthif so, gtkwifi looks interesting08:07
\shno network-applet08:08
ograAmaranth, talking about ttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge08:11
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=== \sh is sad
Amaranthafter i finish smeg 0.8, that is08:13
\shAmaranth: only until tomorrow we can do the merge08:13
ogra\sh, dont bite to deep into one single package....08:13
ograjust move on if yu cant solve it easily08:13
ograi doubt we'll get the list ready completely...08:14
Amaranthuniverse uvf is tomorrow?08:15
Amaranthok, smeg can wait, it should pass through uvf without issues :)08:16
\shAmaranth: it is now08:16
\shtomorrow we need to have some merges to do08:17
Amaranthupstream version freeze08:18
bddebianAh, thx08:18
ograAmaranth, Kamion told me today that tomorrow is the last day to get the missing merges in...08:18
Amaranthlet me reboot into ubuntu and i'll try to help08:18
bddebianDoh and Wednesdays are "ice cream" nights for me with the Mrs. :-(08:18
ograi hope i can convince him to extend it a bit for universe, but i wouldnt count on it08:19
\shtoo many things during a short time08:20
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\shbddebian: this is distro work...08:22
Amaranththat list is empty08:22
\shand 6 months for syncing merging transitions + testing is really hard work08:22
Amaranthoh, the tinyurl08:22
ograAmaranth, http://tinyurl.com/apx5k08:22
Amaranthi thought Riddell already got the latest koffice in kubuntu08:23
ograRiddell, ^^^^^ ?08:23
\shforget kde stuff08:23
\shforget it...really08:24
\shit won't compile08:24
\shaeh build08:24
ogra\sh, yes, but Riddell should have closed the bug when he brought koffice in08:24
ograits the prob with most of these bugs i guess.... many of them have been handles ina transition already etc08:25
Amaranthok, can someone give me a quick run down of how to do this?08:26
ograAmaranth, http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/README08:27
ograits linked in all these bugs ;)08:27
Amaranthok, i'll try psyco08:28
RiddellAmaranth: hmm?08:32
ograRiddell, there are still a lot KDE related merge bugs open...08:33
ogratomorrow is deadline for merging ...08:33
ograRiddell, http://tinyurl.com/apx5k08:34
slomowhat to do with packages which were automatically merged correctly by merge-o-matic?08:35
ograthey shouldt have a bugreport08:35
ograif they have, just close irt08:36
Riddellogra: ok08:36
ograslomo, nothing dropped there.... just cloes it08:36
\shwhat he means is: the merges are not compiled automatically08:37
ograthe only interesting pieces are the dropped.patch files ....08:37
siretarthi folks08:37
\shso..u have to upload them after u checked the build etc.08:37
\shand I have a headache08:38
\shmysql-query-browser depends on libgtkhtml3.208:38
\shthis is not in our repos08:38
\shi tried with 3.608:38
slomoogra: ok... but i've found another problem here ;) a dpatch can't be applied while building... well i'll fix it and upload a debdiff...08:38
ogragreat ;)08:38
\shslomo: apt-get install dpatch08:39
\shand try to remove the patch ,-)08:39
\shvi debian/patches/00list  and find it there08:39
\shtry to rebuild08:39
ograogra@honk:~ $ apt-cache search libgtkhtml3.208:39
ogralibgtkhtml3.2-dev - HTML rendering/editing library - development files08:39
ogralibgtkhtml3.2-11 - HTML rendering/editing library - runtime files08:39
\shthe hard way ,-)08:39
ogra\sh, whats wrong ?08:39
slomo\sh: i know ;) i'm currently looking whether this patch is needed with the new version... it's a fix for a security problem...08:39
\shogra: it's not in the archive..in my pbuilder08:40
\sheven not in my cache08:40
ograupdate ?08:40
\shogra: please08:40
ogra(or am i outdated ?)08:40
bddebian\sh: I know it is.  I was trying to help with MOTUToDo since I want to someday grace your presence as an MOTU ;-)08:40
\shok..I delete my pkgcache and srcpkgcache.bin08:41
\shupdate again08:41
\shi have 2-0 3.6-18 3.8-15 1.1-3 3.0-408:41
siretartogra: how to claim 'merges' bugs? I cannot assign them to me :(08:42
ograsiretart, your bugzilla login ?08:43
siretartogra: yes08:43
ograwhat is your bugzilla login ?08:44
siretartah, siretart@tauware.de08:44
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ograsiretart, should work again08:45
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\shlistening to blade runners soundtrack...hope it helps08:45
siretartogra: thanks, works fine now08:46
\shbut the best for today:08:47
\shuniverse/sound/alsaplayer_0.99.76-6ubuntu1: Dep-Wait by buildd+terranova [optional:out-of-date]  Dependencies: alsa-headers08:47
\shi checked again and again..and no alsa-headers in the control08:47
slomo\sh: alsa-headers isn't needed anymore08:47
\shyes i know08:47
slomo\sh: i've fixed that already in UniverseUnmetDeps ;)08:48
bddebianslomo: Are you already an MOTU?08:48
\shbut the buildds not..even there is no build-dep on alsa-headers08:48
slomobddebian: no... why?08:49
bddebianslomo: Just curious, I was gonna say cool :-)08:50
\shogra: it won't work out08:50
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\shneither my system is borked nor my brain...so how should I get a fitting libgtkhtml3.208:51
bddebianwelcome back seth_k, you @#$T!!08:51
slomobddebian: lol ok :) just wait a few weeks, maybe i'm by then :)08:51
bddebianseth_k: Sorry, j/k, couldn't resist08:51
seth_kyou're gonna pay for it08:51
seth_kcos you're gonna show me how to upload to REVU :P08:52
ogra\sh, hmm, might be amd64 specific08:52
ogra\sh, tried with 3.0 or 3.6 ?08:53
\shpkgconfig is not my friend08:53
bddebianseth_k: Has siretart already added your key to the keyring on REVU?08:53
siretartDo I assume right that packages having all relevant ubuntu changes in the debian package should be listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge (Drop *ubuntu*) and nowhere else?08:53
seth_kbddebian, yes08:53
\shit wants to have gtkmm2.0 and 3.6 needs mm2.408:53
ograsiretart, thats the idea08:54
\shi will try 3.0 gtkhtml08:54
siretartok. will do08:54
bddebianseth_k: And I assume that you read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//REVU ? :-)08:54
siretartogra: whats the bug status for this then? NEW or PENDINGUPLOAD?08:54
ograsiretart, if the package isnt in the archive, then set it pending, else close the bug...08:55
seth_kbddebian, yeah, but have never used dput before so that was kinda cryptic :D08:55
bddebianseth_k: Aye, me either.  I just got lucky ;-)08:55
siretartogra: the package needs to be synced from debian. Ok, i'll set it to pending08:56
seth_kbddebian, impart your wisdom! ;)08:56
ograsiretart, you should sync it out of MOM then... it should contain all changes...08:56
ogra(manual upload )08:56
siretartogra: ah, so we are allowed to upload manually to override mom. didn't know that08:57
\shMoM means manual merge and upload..u have to test08:57
\shjust like i do and I'm stucked again08:57
bddebianseth_k: You have your dput.cf?08:58
ograsiretart, see if there is a dropped.patch, if so, merge the changes manually and upload... if there is none, the merge worked and you can upload as well... but some packages were already handled in Cxx transition or the like... so they need no upload at all08:58
siretartyes, I checked that the debian package works fine in pbuilder. Is it ok to upload the package as 2.9.1-1build1 with changelog entry 'override mom'?08:58
ografor details: http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/README08:59
siretartogra: the merge is superflous, I want the debian version to be in ubuntu08:59
siretartand that mom forgets about all changes from us08:59
ograthen do as you said above08:59
siretartok. will do08:59
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siretartstill better than overloading elmo09:00
\shogra: no...libgtkhtml3.0 doesn't help...3.1 or 3.2 but neither are in our archives (actually in mine)09:01
\shthey r on archive.ubuntu.com09:02
\shbut why I don't get them for breezy?09:02
\shin hoary i have them09:04
seth_kbddebian, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/317228 ?09:05
comadrejaOk, I fixed lirc, how do I generate the patch for the bug report ?09:06
Amaranthok, the only thing mom didn't handle on it's own for psyco is 'tightening up Build-Depends'09:08
seth_kcomadreja, I always take the last available Ubuntu deb, build a deb out of my new fixed package, and "debdiff olddeb.dsc newdeb.dsc"... dunno if there is a better way :)09:08
Amaranthoh, nevermind, it screwed up the depends too09:08
ograguys, there is a motu meeting on the agenda today... anyone opposed to postpone it two weeks ? the agenda is empty and i think we all have enough work to do09:09
comadrejano problem for me09:09
bddebianseth_k: Give me a minute, sorry09:10
siretartogra: I'm very ok with that!09:10
comadrejathanks seth_k , but... that would be a patch against last ubuntu, not debian09:11
ograok, if nobody speaks up with something urgent i'll adjust the date on the agenda09:11
\shfck..today is motu meeting?09:11
ogra\sh, motu meeting is in two weks ;)09:12
seth_koh comadreja, if you are patching against debian... debdiff against that package's .dsc file? all you need to debdiff is two dsc files and their debs09:12
\sh20 July, 2200 UTC09:12
ogra\sh, look now ;)09:13
\shyeah..I just heard your words and I knew then ,-)09:15
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bddebianseth_k: That looks correct.  What happens when you dput -P revu *_source.changes  ?09:21
seth_kdunno, haven't tried it yet09:22
seth_kso that will upload it to revu?09:22
siretartseth_k: if your /etc/dput.cf is correct, yes09:22
seth_kright, thanks bddebian, siretart09:22
bddebianGlad to be of SOME use :-)09:23
seth_kyou are lots of use09:23
seth_kI will try this package once KDE stuff starts building again :(09:23
\shi'm blind09:23
\shgot it now *grmpf*09:27
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=== bddebian is #ubuntu-motu cheerleader
\shdance naked on the table ,-)09:28
\shmake my day ,-)09:29
ogra\sh, are you sure thats a good idea ?09:29
\shactually I would laugh ,-)09:29
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=== Amaranth will have to be cheerleading too
\shok..if this works out...I'll upload09:30
\shno upload09:33
siretartonly for the case I'm doing something terribly stupid, I'm doing uploads like this: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/breezy-changes/2005-July/008083.html09:34
siretartI've never seen uploads like that, so do I break something with that? I confirm that the former ubuntu changes are no longer relevant09:34
=== bddebian dances nekkid on the table for \sh
ogralooks ok to me09:35
=== ogra shades his eyes
\shsiretart: if the source is not already in the archive...sourceuploads will do it09:35
siretartok. then I'll proceed with other packages like this and go back to my work..09:35
\shsiretart: if it's only a debian bumb, check09:36
\shfrom mysql-query-browser 1.1.4 to 1.1.12 i do a source upload09:36
siretart\sh: yes, I checked the uploaded package in my pbuilder09:36
\shsiretart: no..check sources in the archive09:36
\shif the merge is from 1.1.4-2ubuntu1 to 1.1.4-6 then it's no sourceupload09:37
siretartah. sure09:37
\shif you have a merge from 1.1.4-2ubuntu1 to 1.1.7-3 then it's source upload09:37
siretartmy packages were always new upstream's09:37
siretartup to now09:37
slomowaah... i hate this... package doesn't compile because it doesn't know what "uint" is... i write a small test program, compiles when stdlib.h is included... included stdlib.h in the problemfile in the package: same error as before...09:39
comadrejahow can I check if my key is now in the strong set, btw ? it has been signed09:46
bddebianslomo: Is that a gcc-4.x thing?09:48
slomobddebian: no... seems to be something else09:49
slomoanybody here who knows what XOPEN_SOURCE means (as in -D_XOPEN_SOURCE)? can I just #undef it to let the package compile?09:51
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siretartslomo: no. rather fix CFLAGS09:52
siretartdo not #undef in the source09:53
slomoeven if -D_XOPEN_SOURCE is included by pkg-config in CFLAGS for gtkspell and gtk itself? ;)09:53
slomoor just s/uint/unsigned int/g? that works and uint is just a typedef on unsigned int09:54
siretartit deklares what version of that standard the source conforms09:54
siretartdeclares, even09:54
siretartthe later seems more sane to me, that #undef have more consequences than you think09:55
siretartbut consider collecting also other opinions09:55
slomook... somebody else having an opinion on this? :)09:56
\shis typedef uint unsigned int defined somewhere?09:58
\shin the source?09:58
slomo\sh: no... it's in sys/types.h09:58
\shdefine it in the source09:58
\shor check sys/types.h what to define to include this typedef09:59
\shgcc is strict09:59
slomo\sh: i've already looked at what needs to be defined... but wasn't very successfull with that ;) __USE_MISC must be defined but only defining that doesn't work09:59
slomoso i'll go with the typedef... this works :)10:00
\shand again..i have gdal on my shoulder10:00
Amaranthslomo: It's an X thing that's carrying over.10:02
siretartwow. I love packages with bigger diff.gz than its orig.gz10:02
slomosiretart: and i love packages with a 1.5 mb debdiff ;)10:03
siretartslomo: http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/multisync/ :/10:05
siretart1.8M orig, 2.7M diff.gz10:05
slomosiretart: nice ;) you have luck that this isn't the dropped patch :)10:07
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ograguys, if you find a 1,5MB dropped patch, thats something to really leave alone... :)10:12
slomohmm, can somebody look at python-gnome2? why are there some files left in the archive as this seems to be replaced by gnome-python? shall i add it to MorgueCandidates?10:12
\shor it's something really worthit and get the stars for it ,->10:12
\shsiretart: we will the heroes of the night, dude ,-)10:16
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slomoand the next one... :)10:18
slomotseng: ping? what's with the stuff which is assigned to you on http://tinyurl.com/apx5k ? will you look at it?10:20
tsengnot right now I wont10:21
ograslomo, yes, he asked for the url earlier.... thanks for reminding me, i'll need to mail him :)10:21
\shok..gdal with gcc4 patch is working...source uploading10:21
ograeh, hey tseng :)10:21
tsengmost of them are probably invalid10:21
tsengif you wanted to help out you could verify ones that really need looked at10:21
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siretart\sh: I'm just doing wdm here, then I'll continue with my other work..10:22
\shtseng have fun10:22
slomotseng: ok... wanted to suggest that ;) i'll write it into the bugreports...10:22
tsengslomo: thanks alot :)10:23
slomowtf... 3.1 mb dropped patch for gtk-sharp2-unstable :D woah...10:24
bddebianDamn this "real job" getting in the way of my Ubuntuness.  Damn it to hell!!10:24
bddebian:-)  Sorry seth_k10:24
\shif anybody needs uploads...give me the infos for: which bug, which package...if u patched the source to work...debdiff to sh at sourcecode.de with all the info...it's 20:24utc and I'm here until 22:00 UTC10:24
siretart\sh: slomo will love you for that offer ;)10:24
\shslomo needs some publicness10:25
ograpfft, its about time that he gets upload rights himself10:25
\shslomo is your mail address whitelisted for breezy-changes by elmo?10:25
siretartfull agreement10:25
slomo\sh: yes10:25
\shogra: not my fault ;)10:25
seth_ksiretart, speaking of uploads, can that zSNES package go in yet?10:25
ogra\sh, its a scheduling problem....10:26
slomo\sh: just look at UniverseUnmetDeps and MOTUToMerge ;) the revu stuff can wait :)10:26
\shslomo: realname? or put it in your whois data pls ;-) I'm not good in remembering names longer then 10 chars ,-)10:27
=== \sh <-- old :)
slomo\sh: sebastian drge (but written with oe in the wiki and launchpad ;) )10:27
\shslomo: k10:29
=== slomo claims
=== slomo claims #11364 as the bug of the day ;)
\shmail@slomosnail.de is also your normal mail address for your gpg key?10:30
slomo\sh: yes10:30
\shk thx10:31
ograslomo, hahaha10:32
\shcause i will put the changelog to your name10:32
seth_kbtw thanks for your help yesterday with torcs, \sh, everything worked great... I just didn't get back in time before you left. Although then I realized torcs got hit by MOTUGLUTransition and so wasn't buildable right now anyways10:32
slomo\sh: thanks :)10:33
siretart221 merges left for universe ;)10:33
\shi'm talking for uploads now only for merging ,-)10:33
\shso hurry up guys ,-)10:33
\shwe want to get rid of the MoMs...10:34
siretartanyone want a tough one? https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12021 has 143K -dropped.patch ;)10:34
Amaranthoh shit10:35
siretartbut I need to do now other stuff. going to background mode..10:35
Amaranthalthough i think that's inflated10:35
Amaranthit's going from 0.6 to 0.710:35
\shdid I say: riddell rocks?10:39
\shVon: Sebastian Droege <mail@slomosnail.de>10:49
\shAn: breezy-changes@lists.ubuntu.com10:49
\shBetreff: Accepted gtk-industrial-engine (source)10:49
\shslomo: there is your publicness *lol*10:50
slomo\sh: i got "gtk-industrial-engine_0.2.46.0ubuntu1_source.changes ACCEPTED" =) thanks :)10:50
\shkatie is a nice girl ,-)10:51
slomoand she's really fast ;)10:52
\shok..bugfixing tomorrow ,-)11:05
slomoat what time is the deadline tomorrow?11:06
bddebianTomorrow is still to midnight right? ;-)11:07
ograslomo, i hope i can convince mdz and Kamion to exted it some more days11:07
slomotseng: i've gone through all packages assigned to you except gtk-sharp2-unstable (which has a really large dropped diff ;) )... everything is fine or needs just some small changes11:08
siretartogra: perhaps you can argue that Xorg dependencies are not ready yet. I'm still unsure how to put the GLU dependencies..11:09
slomoogra: and at which time when you can't convince them? 24:00 at 2005-07-21?11:09
ograsiretart, good point, i will11:09
ograslomo, 24:00 in the last TZ ;) (gives us some hours)11:10
slomoogra: cool ;) another reason to stay awake the whole night tomorrow ;)11:11
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sistpotyhi folks11:11
\shnot for me...i have to go to bed at 22:00utc11:11
ogra\sh, resign !11:11
\sh48minutes left11:12
\shshould be enough for some packages ,-)11:12
ogra\sh, then your ex cant grab your money ;)11:12
\shogra: do i get money for packaging?11:12
ograat least fame... a lot of fame :)11:13
slomohmm... any ideas on what to look next?! there's soo much i can't even decide...11:13
\shhaha...yeah...I buy a villa in southafrica with my fame :)11:13
siretarthi sistpoty!11:13
sistpotyhi siretart11:13
bddebianHeya sistpoty11:14
sistpotyhi bddebian11:14
\shriddell just uploaded a new version of kdelibs to get rid of the build issues11:15
\shif it's through the buildds please update all your pbuilder and get the kde stuff from MoM as well..and try11:15
\shif not forget it11:15
sistpotyany news about X yet?11:16
sistpotyif it's still broken?11:16
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siretartsistpoty: xbase-clients is still missing, daniels hopes to be able to upload them tomorrow11:17
\shhmmm...the epoch of gcc-4?11:17
sistpotyah... cool.11:17
\shgcc (>= 4:4.0.?)11:18
sistpotyi don't think so... more the epoch of splitting x into different packages11:18
sistpotybut it's just a guess11:18
sistpotybtw.: is anybody currently working on ghc6?11:19
\shforget it...doesn't matter,-)11:19
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siretartsistpoty: I uploaded cpphs, need to have a look at haskel-utils11:21
bddebiansistpoty: I was looking at haskell-utils but ghc6-bootstrap needs to be uploaded apparently11:21
bddebian haskell-utils build-deps ghc6 but ghc6 deps haskell-utils ;-P11:21
siretartcpphs needed changed ordering of build dependencies, since sbuild could not cope with them (although pbuilder could, gnarf)11:21
sistpotysiretart, bddebian: on my pbuilder haskell-utils built just fine... (it has hugs as alternative)11:22
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sistpotywhats sbuild?11:22
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\shsbuild is the build env on the buildd11:22
\shsistpoty: sbuild will be the heart of elma11:23
\shsiretart: is it? ,-)11:23
siretartsistpoty: doko said that alternatives in build-deps are a real pain for buildd admins11:23
siretart\sh: it is! :)11:23
sistpotythx \sh :)11:23
sistpotywell i could try to make a haskell-utils w.o. alternatives...11:25
siretartsistpoty: I'm uploading haskell-utils right now11:26
sistpotysiretart: ah, k :)11:27
sistpotyhi ajmitch11:27
siretarthi ajmitch11:27
siretartsistpoty: let's see if the build succeeds. perhaps it works and we can proceed with haskell-bootstrap11:28
siretartsistpoty: doko also said he was very happy with the -bootstrap solution, because it makes porting to new architectures way more easy11:28
sistpotysiretart: thx :) though i'm not entirely happy of how i fetch a package... but i didn't find any alternative to wget11:29
bddebiansistpoty: Do you have ghc6-bootstrap?11:29
bddebianHeya ajmitch11:29
sistpotybddebian: I put it into revu11:29
bddebianAhh, so you're cheating ;-)11:30
sistpotybddebian: yes, very much!11:30
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sistpotybddebian: but there is no other way to build a package that build-depends on itself than fetching a working binary from somewhere (at least none that i know of)11:33
chillywillycan anyone look at my init script for 3md2 and tell me why issuing 'stop' does not work?11:33
bddebiansistpoty: I know, I ran in to that with fpc :)11:33
bddebianHeya chillywilly11:33
sistpotyhi chillywilly11:33
sistpotychillywilly: i'll take a look, if you tell me where i can find it ;)11:34
chillywillywonder if the pid file gets written11:35
chillywillypid file doesn't get written11:36
chillywillyheh, can you tell I hacked smartmontools init script ;)11:36
SloMo_sistpoty: you can build ghc6 without ghc6 by a very obscure way written on their homepage... that is if i don't misunterstood it11:36
sistpotySloMo_: oh, didn't know that... ok, if the simple way won't work, we have a failback-option ;)11:38
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chillywillywsas missing a few things11:40
siretartogra: ion3 is now based on nobse's version, I just uploaded the merge11:44
ogragreat :)11:44
ograclose te bug !! ;)11:44
siretartstill wating for the green light from katie11:44
siretartin fact, it IS his package, with 2 builddeps added11:44
siretartbug closed11:46
siretartgn8 folks!11:46
SloMo_static void i2c_alarm(int sig) {11:46
SloMo_  if (loop) ((N1) ? N2 : N1) = N ; if (N2) loop = 0 ; }11:46
SloMo_who writes such ugly code?!11:46
SloMo_gn8 siretart :)11:46
chillywillythe pid file is never written to in that init script11:47
\shlast package with patching today11:48
\shthe rest is bugfixing for tomorrow11:48
\shmysql-query-browser not build on amd6411:48
chillywillyI even 'touched' the file but it stil never writes anything to the pid file11:49
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\shprint out $DM2PID11:51
jamessanSloMo_: omg, that's horrible11:52
SloMo_jamessan: that's not the only problem ;) invalid lvalue... hopefully there isn't more of this stuff ;)11:53
sistpotychillywilly: can 3dm2 create a pid on it's own? otherwise try --make-pidfile11:53
chillywillyarg to start-stop-daemon?11:54
chillywillyI thought start-stop-daemon was writing the pis out to the file11:55
chillywillythwe way it is invoked there is not proper unless the daemon writes it itself?11:55
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\shok.....that was it for today.11:56
\shogra: please try to increase the time for mom11:56
ogra\sh, i'll doo, and i'm sure mdz will agree11:57
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\shwould be good until friday..so i can try to get friday off..and friday evening i will brain reset with george (it's his birthday party ,-))11:58
ograsend my greetings11:58
\shi will :)11:58
\shhe is getting old, this damn romanian child ,-)11:58
SloMo_\sh: brain reset sounds nice ;) but instead of increasing until friday... sunday would be better imho ;)11:59
\shSloMo_: yeah...and it means really a brain reset with 2.9 promille ,-)12:00
\shso all the bits and bytes are disappearing, and I can start from new *lol*12:00
\shok.guys..good night have fun :) cu early in the morning12:01
sistpotygn8 \sh_away12:01
SloMo_gn8 \sh_away :)12:01

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