Knowledge_desrt: Good call....good call12:00
Antinomynalioth: on windows, I used to just DL an exe file and slap it on the desktop, double click and install. Things seem a tad more complicated with Ubuntu.12:00
Knowledge_so anyone know how to do a boot splash for ubuntu?12:00
naliothAntinomy: system > admin > synaptic package manager12:00
nalioths_dogAntinomy: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:01
desrtnalioth; if you're fortunate enough to have the piece of software you want packaged by ubuntu12:01
signbarnKnowledge_: I only know how to do a splash screen on GRUB for ubuntu12:01
Knowledge_nalioth: unless you have to use tar.gz12:01
nalioths_dogAntinomy: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:01
Antinomynalioth: ok, what is that?12:01
kevinI am going to try and use wine to run a chat program from the windbloas front but am not sure how to do it yet and my desktop has suse 9.2 pro on it so I will wait for a while before I do it.12:01
Knowledge_signbarn: meaning right before it stars loading everything?12:01
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naliothAntinomy: synaptic is a frontend to apt-get, the package manager (the way we install software)12:01
signbarnKnowledge_: i dual boot with xp, so it gives me a choice between operating systems -- and that has a nice splash screen behind it12:02
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desrtnalioth; apt-get and synaptic are actually both front-ends to the same library12:02
hmrochanalioth, thanks, i did that but the site is down12:02
Knowledge_signbarn: yeah, I used the how to in ubuntuguide...false hopes12:02
hmrochanalioth, he doesn't have internet at home12:02
Antinomynalioth: so, when I want a certain piece of software, I locate it in the repositories and use synaptic to dl it?12:02
kevinI like synaptic, much easier thn apt-get and it you don't have to remember how to spell things12:02
desrt(namely, libapt-pkg)12:02
naliothdesrt: apt-get is the package manager, synaptic, kynaptic, aptitude, and <ugh>kpackage are all frontends for it12:03
naliothAntinomy: yes12:03
desrtnalioth; not really :)12:03
Knowledge_Antinomy: when I want to install something I search synaptic first....it really does have a lot of stuff12:03
desrtnalioth; apt-get is the same thing as synaptic12:03
Antinomynalioth: ok, so should I play around with that first?12:03
naliothdesrt: clarify with another knowledgable user, please12:03
AntinomyKnowledge_: Ok thanks - start there?12:03
desrtnamely, a front-end to libapt-pkg12:03
naliothAntinomy: yes, play with it12:03
Knowledge_Antinomy: I normally do12:04
desrtnalioth; sorry.  i thought you were12:04
hmrochanalioth, i'll try uninstalling and installing again12:04
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Knowledge_because you can't really mess things up12:04
Antinomynalioth: apt-get is a gui interface for apt-get, a program that helps you dl repositories - correct?12:04
Knowledge_with tar.gz you somewhat can12:04
hmrochanalioth, maybe that way it will put the deb file in /var/cache/apt12:04
naliothdesrt: you normally dont invoke librarys to perform things12:04
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Knowledge_unless yo'ure me12:05
desrtnalioth; right.  you have to use one of the front-ends like apt-get or synaptic12:05
naliothAntinomy: see what i wrote above to desrt12:05
desrtnalioth; and they use the library12:05
Knowledge_then you wonder why you feel like reinstalling your OS12:05
desrtand ultimately, everything calls dpkg12:05
funkyHatAntinomy, apt-get is a command line front-end to libapt-pkg, as nalioth said12:05
naliothdesrt: yes, thank you12:05
AntinomyGot it.12:05
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naliothguys, this is way complicated for new users12:06
desrtnalioth; well.. it doesn't really matter12:06
funkyHatand synaptic is a graphic front end to the same thing12:06
desrtnalioth; if you use synaptic then you don't need to care about apt or dpkg or anything else12:06
nalioththey don't give a fsck about the golforsaken librarys that run things12:06
ateveshi! i wanted to install gstreamer0.8-mad via apt, but it was not found. what do i have to add to sources.list?12:06
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desrtnalioth; it just works :)12:06
naliothdesrt: he's a brand new *nix user12:06
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naliothdesrt: he deosnt need to know the bloody C code that runs the sunuvugun12:06
Antinomy<playing with synaptic>12:06
desrtnalioth; omiting information for new users is fine... most people don't care.  providing inaccurate information isn't good, though12:07
nalioththank you12:07
Knowledge_sooo.....about that bootsplash for weakness12:08
Knowledge_anyone have any ideas/12:08
desrtKnowledge_; i guess you'd have to load it into grub somehow12:08
desrteither that or recompile your kernel with it :/12:08
desrtbut, obviously, it needs to have it around when it's booting... and that's the only two ways to do it12:08
Knowledge_nooooooo I've had terrible luck with those 2 words12:08
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kevinughhh I hate recompiling the kernel, takes wayyyyyy to long for this old thing lol12:08
Knowledge_recomile and kernel12:09
Knowledge_not my favorite words in the same sentence12:09
desrthah.  i just googled12:09
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desrtfirst couple of pages i found are like "and then i recompiled my kernel..."12:09
kevinknowledge: 'nor mine lol12:09
Knowledge_man I tried doing that with my alps touchpad....it worked.....but tpconfig STILL didn't recognize my alps...and on top of that...I lost my wifi card....12:10
Knowledge_pfft....no more kernel recompiling unless I know what the commands I'm copying and pasting do12:10
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kevinknowledge: I remember that12:10
desrtKnowledge_; a good policy, generally speaking :)12:10
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Knowledge_yeahhh, kevin you're the one that has the same problem with the video mode being messed up, no?12:11
mumblesanyone need to restart into wi9ndows for a while12:11
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Knowledge_wrong person12:11
kevinyup lol12:11
mumblesmight be me12:11
mumblescouse ive had video problems a few weeks back12:11
mumblesrestarting --12:12
kevinI now have iceWM running and it had spead this old laptop up a little bit12:12
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Knowledge_yeah, when my laptop shuts the screen off...and I open it...it screws up the desktop12:12
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Knowledge_actually...it screwes everythign12:12
Dinneed help12:12
Din[*]  Acting as MAIN12:12
Din[+]  Config loaded12:12
Din[*]  Opening listening socket at
Din[-]  Cannot open socket (Cannot assign requested address)12:12
Dinwhat do i do12:12
supernixUptime: 6 days, 2 hours and 21 minutes12:12
desrtDin; a little context plz?12:12
Dinrunning in untudo live cd12:13
Dinand i want to test one irc bot12:13
Dinbut i can-t connect12:13
jimmyhi i just aptgetted  kubuntu-desktop and my gnome is not working anymore any idea why ? ( yes i can log in with gnome-failsafe)12:13
desrtDin; what IP is 193.77...?12:13
Belutzanyone, can i make the grub looks more interesting?12:13
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Dinof mz router12:13
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naliothjimmy: specific failure point? what happens?12:13
jimmyBlissex: you can add splash images12:13
desrtDin; ok.  you can't bind to an IP on your router12:13
desrtDin; the bot needs to bind to a local socket12:14
desrtDin; and you setup port forwarding on your router12:14
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jimmynalioth: i just try to log in with gdm and i just see a brown screen12:14
jimmymouse is visible12:14
desrtso like 192.168 or whatever12:14
Dini think that i know what to do12:14
jimmyare there any gnome logs ?12:14
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funkyHatjimmy, did you accidentally uninstall gnome?12:15
Lone_Strikeris linux stable enough not to have any security sofware, if it isn't what are some that you guys are using?12:15
naliothLone_Striker: security softwar?12:15
jimmyfunkyHat: no i can log in with gnome- failsafe12:15
desrtjimmy; what is your system date/time?12:15
Lone_Strikeryeah like anti-virus and such?12:15
naliothLone_Striker: by default, your ubuntu box is a black hole on the network12:15
jimmydesrt: Wed Jul 20 00:15:41 CEST 2005 it seems to be correkt12:15
naliothLone_Striker: there  are no known virus for linux12:15
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desrtjimmy; the only time i've ever seen that happen with gnome was when the date was in the past12:16
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desrtjimmy; *shrug* :)12:16
Antinomynalioth: ok, i think i get it. Syn is basically my window to all of the updates and new apps that are available from the universe; I could also get them by going to the command line and using "apt-get"12:16
Lone_Strikernice, so is there it is not necessary to have any those of software?12:16
naliothAntinomy: yes12:16
Antinomynalioth: multi too?12:16
Lone_Strikerjust switched to linux today12:16
naliothLone_Striker: not unless you want to run everything you get via p2p thru a antivirus b4 you send it to your windows using friends12:17
naliothAntinomy: yes12:17
supernixlol linspire sells anti-virus software12:17
jimmydesrt: its on a laptop so the default ntp sync with the ubuntu time server is not working becaus inet aint set up at boot time12:17
naliothsupernix: lets not speak of linspire, they run default as root12:17
Antinomynalioth: thanks - I just DLed and installed my first app!12:17
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Lone_Strikerwell, then what are some of those softwares?12:17
desrtjimmy; it only happens if the date is older than the installed bonobo server files12:17
desrtjimmy; so it'd have to be at least a few months off12:17
jimmyi will try to rename my .gnome folder12:18
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Lone_Strikerwhat are some p2p software that works with linux12:18
naliothLone_Striker: like what?12:18
wrtpeepsdo i need a certian lib installed to use the make command?12:18
desrtget .gnome2 and .gconf too12:18
wrtpeepsLone_Striker: limewire12:18
Lone_Strikerlimewire works with linux?12:18
naliothLone_Striker: amule, gtk-gnutella, dcgui, bittorrent12:18
naliothLone_Striker: if you enable java12:18
Lone_Strikerwhere could I get limewire?12:18
funkyHatLone_Striker, aMule, gnutella, bittorrent12:18
wrtpeepsemule too12:19
naliothwrtpeeps: install "build-essential"12:19
funkyHatgnutella uses the same network as limewire12:19
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Lone_Strikeri have been using limewire so where could i get it for linux?12:19
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funkyHatand doesn't ask you to 'upgrade to pro'12:19
naliothLone_Striker: its the same app, java apps are portable12:19
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vaderglad I saw that ? about security, I keep forgetting to install clamav, doing it now though12:20
Lone_Strikerso do i have to download java first or just use what comes with limewire?12:20
uboturumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.12:20
supernixI thought we just got finished saying there was no viruses for Linux so why have clamav ?12:22
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vaderI have for that all inclusive "just incase"12:22
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funkyHatsupernix, for the sake of friends running windows, you wouldn't want to accidentally forward them a virus. and ^^what he said12:22
desrtsupernix; clamav is usually run on mailservers12:22
Lone_Strikerwhat anit-virus/spyware program would you recommend if you use p2p and need to scan the files?12:22
jimmywell the renaming of the .gnome* files didnt help seems to be a system config fault12:23
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desrtsupernix; windows clients fetch mail from linux mailservers frequently12:23
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desrtsupernix; using linux doesn't magically shield all your windows boxes from viruses too....12:23
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SogniXI have installed samba and shared a few folders - but I can't seem to connect from a remote computer... what step am I missing?12:23
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vaderis that a good reason for using clamav?12:25
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Lone_Strikeris clamav a security program?12:25
funkyHatLone_Striker, linux is pretty secure firewall-wise anyway, if you want some more control, firestarter is good12:26
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vaderwow! this is getting better by the day; just got an email from a DIE hard windblows customer who wants me to setup Ubuntu on his pc, Finally got the worst spyware person to listen to reason12:29
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FlyingSquirrel32does anyone know nis?12:30
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IIIEarsvader - Hey - After a dozen hours long windows rinstalls wore him down.12:30
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FlyingSquirrel32anyone know ldap12:31
vaderIIIEars: uh hu, his last bill was close to 200.0012:31
ptloi have ubuntu (hoary) on my desktop machine. it isn't powered on 24 hours a day - so, when i boot it up the system runs updatedb .. which is fine by itself, but the whole system slows down then :) is there a (nice) way to disable this?12:31
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admrl_can anyone help me w/ printer drivers my parents were using a dell printer and i couldnt get it working w/ ubuntu so i switched to an old DeskJet 722C and it like cuts out half way thru printing something sometimes and i need to restart the computer and it wont print in color12:33
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IIIEarsNot even scheduled backups using disk imaging will keep a windows machine safe. - too many hacks out there.12:34
vaderright you are IIIEars12:34
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admrl_can no one help me..?12:35
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vaderI make one image of the windows boxes, if they add to it, they will have to re-add when I am done12:36
vaderadmrl: i know nothing of printing in Linux... sorry12:36
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admrl_do you know where i could go to find out12:36
admrl_ive spent HOURS on google lol12:37
vaderhere: they just needto see the question again probly12:37
PlanarPlatypusadmrl_, this being the buggy HP Deskjet 722C12:37
admrl_im notgoing to keep asking since its such a long question12:37
vaderthis is a good group and will do what they can to help12:37
admrl_we used to use it w/ a 98 box and it worked fine12:38
admrl_it has to be the driver12:38
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PlanarPlatypusadmrl_, which driver is it using?12:38
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vaderbbiab need to help with dinner12:38
admrl_ummm one second12:39
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admrl_HP Deskjet 722C Foomatic/pnm2ppa12:40
aikendrumI have an old Chicony lappy I wanna put Ubuntu onto, but I cant boot from cd....Any ideas of a boot disk guys..? When i put windoze on it , the only boot floopy that worked was the Xp ones....12:40
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admrl_aikendrum have you checked your bios12:40
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admrl_so u know its bootable12:40
admrl_well you are booting from the cdrom12:40
aikendrumyeah, no mention of the pcmcia cd till windows :-(12:40
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esierrai have a problem with my fonts12:41
Lone_Strikerhow do you install java on ubuntu?12:41
keknehvHello... I know this isn't really an ubuntu question, but is there a distribution of linux that would run passably on a 486? (66Mhz)12:41
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Wckdkl0wnhow to i unzip a tar.gz file?12:41
keknehvUse file roller12:41
keknehvOr gzip212:41
ptloWckdkl0wn: in shell: tar xvzf file.tar.gz12:42
bockmanWckdkl0wn, on terminal: tar -xvzf whatever.tar.gz12:42
admrl_in kde you can just right click on it12:42
admrl_and click unzip12:42
jimmydesrt: it is really strange i can log into gnome with kdm but not with gdm :)12:42
keknehvAh, there you go12:42
ubotu[java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.12:42
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keknehvI knew it was something >_<12:42
ptloWckdkl0wn: the switches mean: x (extract), v (verbosely), z (zipped by gz), f (file named): file.tar.gz12:42
ptloWckdkl0wn: other notable switch for tar is 'c' (create) which is used to create *new* archives12:42
esierramy fonts look ugly in a lcd12:43
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Lone_Strikerwhat's the difference between linux rpm and linux?12:43
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PlanarPlatypusadmrl_, interesting, linuxprinting.org lists it as working perfectly.  You say it won't print in color and it cuts out half way through printing12:43
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bockmanptlo, don't forget j which unzips bzip2 archives12:43
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ptlobockman, *nod*12:43
PlanarPlatypusdo you mean stops half way through a page or mid larger print run?12:43
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keknehvLone_Stricker: An rpm is a specific package management tool12:43
keknehvLone_striker: Which is used in Red Hat and Mandrake (among other) distributions.12:44
IIIEarsLone_Striker - Do you need to install an RPM - "alien" will do it.12:44
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esierraanyone ?12:44
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fred__how are you12:45
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Lone_Strikerwhat is rpm?12:45
esierrai need help with my fonts12:45
fred__rpm is paquet for mandrake12:45
funkyHatLone_Striker, rpm is similar to deb12:45
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funkyHatit is a package12:45
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funkyHatstands for redhat package manager12:45
Wckdkl0wnhow do i install xchat plugins?12:46
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ex-parrothelp.... I seem to have horribly broken my Ubuntu install12:46
funkyHatif you need to install one, use alien -i foo instead of dpkg -i foo12:46
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IIIEarse3x-parr, - what is your question? - how can we help?12:47
ateveswhat RSS reader do you use?12:47
ex-parrotI was messing about with theming and XFCE, and themes stopped working mysteriously12:47
ex-parrotnow everything has the default GTK theme, and half my apps refuse to load12:47
cut0ffateves I'm wondering the same12:47
munkiAnyone had any luck with AverTV E500 TV-Card +Tuner in ubuntu ?12:48
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atevesi just found straw for gnome12:48
funkyHatWckdkl0wn, where are the plugins you want to install?12:48
ex-parrotwhen I load the program for selecting UI I get a flash of theming on the system tray then nothing12:48
Wckdkl0wnon desktop i just untared the file12:48
tuxhagenLone Stricker: rpm is a package management concept created by the redhat disribution.each package contains binairy files and config infos, documentation an infos about dependencies or conflicts to/with other packages, nearly similar to deb (created by debian12:48
IIIEarsex-parrot - there is no doubt a better way than using synaptic to reinstall XFCE4 but, thats what i would do.12:48
ex-parrotIIIEars, it affects Gnome too though12:48
cut0ffwhat's the best RSS reader?12:48
desrtjimmy; hah.12:49
desrtjimmy; that's pretty special :)12:49
Burgundaviacut0ff, liferea and blam are quite popular and work well12:49
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cut0ffBurgundavia thanks mate12:49
ex-parrotI'm going to try making a new username12:49
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atevesi'll check liferea now12:50
mumbleshow do i connect to a server via ssh ?12:50
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flipymumbles: ssh ip12:51
funkyHatmumbles, # ssh ip12:51
mumblesive tired ssh -d 1000 user@doname.net12:51
cafuegoor ssh user@host (if you have a different remote username)12:51
mumblesi have a starnge port12:51
mumblesits for my eggdrop :p12:51
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ex-parrotevidently it's a problem with just my username12:52
cafuegossh -p 1000 user@host12:52
herzimumbles: you configure your eggrop via ssh?12:52
funkyHatmumbles, #ssh -D 1000 -l user domain.net12:52
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mumblesgood point Heart_12:52
mumblesherzi, even12:52
mumblestellnet :p12:52
herzior ctcp chat12:53
mumblesbut i needed ssh help anyway12:53
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flipyis there any way to uninstall a package without all the ncurses?12:55
flipyI've got a problem with drupal, which won't unistall without first asking the user and pass for mysql, which is not installed12:55
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IIIEarsDoes SSH need RAW socket support in XP? - couldn't get it to work for file transfers. (turned off raw socket support in XP.)12:56
cafuegoflipy: That means it not properly installed yet to begin with.12:56
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cafuegoflipy: You can remove the drupal.postinst file from /var/lib/dpkg/info, then remove drupal.12:56
flipycafuego: ok thanks, that's what I was looking for!!!12:56
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flipycafuego: can I remove anything that relates to drupal?12:57
cafuegoflipy: such as?12:58
hamsterhi there - I have a Synaptic Package Manager problem. When I 'Apply' I am asked to insert installation CD. I do insert in CDROM and I get the message 'W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog'12:58
mumblesto used to puties easy setup12:58
flipy.list .conffiles .preinst .templates .config .md5sums .postrm12:58
mumbleslaggy lag lag lag?12:58
cafuegoflipy: No, just postinst12:58
cafuegoflipy: The rest will be removeed when you uninstall drupal12:59
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flipycafuego: it pops up the ncurses stuff01:00
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cafuegoflipy: Naugty. Can you add 'exit 0' as line 2 in drupal.preinst ?01:01
IIIEarsthe spreadfirefox site was hacked last week (sql/drupal)01:01
cafuegoflipy: if it still does it then, also add it in the prerm01:01
Lone_Strikerhelp, i just install ubuntu, everything worked except there is not soud in general and when you play music?01:01
flipythanks a lot01:02
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IIIEarsLone_Striker - Cuz' i'm new i needed a gui "cheat" installed XMMS to give graphical access to sound configuration01:03
flipystill asks it01:03
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cafuegoflipy: Are you sure it's drupal doing it?01:03
flipygonna change drupal.prerm01:04
A[D] minSGUYS I have dpkg: error processing gaim-pt_1.3.2-1_i386.deb (--install):01:04
A[D] minS trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/gaim', which is also in package gaim01:04
cafuegoodd though, prerm shouldn't ask config questions...01:04
A[D] minSwhat i can do to install this package01:04
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cafuegoA[D] minS: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/gaim-pt_1.3.2-1_i386.deb01:05
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cafuegoA[D] minS: (at the shell, via sudo)01:05
flipycafuego: done. i've modified .postrm01:05
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cafuegoflipy: Did that stop it asking the questions?01:06
nekrataali have a question01:06
Lone_Strikerwhat is the XMMS01:06
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cafuegoLone_Striker: xmms is a media player (like winamp)01:06
nekrataalwhen i installed ubuntu i made no partition on the hard drive, but now i need to partition it, is there any way to do this without loosing ubuntu?01:06
cafuegoused to be called linamp. There's also beep-media-player - which is based on xmms.01:06
Lone_Strikerit is one of the package huh, i see it01:06
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MIK3MANcan someone plz tell me if ubuntu has a firewall system and how to disable it to allow traffic to pass through01:07
flipythanks a lot cafuego, i've been with this for almost a week01:07
cafuegoflipy: :-)01:07
Lone_Strikerwhat do you do after you install it?01:07
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naliothMIK3MAN: all linux have iptables, you can read this for some more info http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13001:07
LasseLMIK3MAN, i don't think there is a firewall on by default01:07
cafuegoLone_Striker: You run it.01:08
funkyHatnekrataal, yes, it's possible, but not from inside ubuntu (the partition you are shrinking can't be mounted)01:08
naliothMIK3MAN: LasseL is correct, by default your system is open to the world01:08
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cafuegoLone_Striker: It should be in Applications -> Multimedia01:08
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Lone_Strikerwould it work; it is installing now01:08
naliothcafuego: may i PM you?01:08
cafuegonalioth: Do yer worst01:08
Lone_Strikersince in general i have not sound01:08
nekrataalfunkyHat, how?01:08
nekrataalfunkyHat, a bootable disk?01:09
cafuegoLone_Striker: No reason it wouldn't, provided Linux supports your sound card.01:09
MIK3MANnalioth: thanks, I have my bittornado up and running, but I am firewalled and I am sure that I have the proper ports forwarded on my router01:09
overladesomeone know how execute Kguitar under gnome (sorry for my english) ?01:09
naliothcafuego: i ask now b/c i've PMd you b4 and was ignored, so i'm giving a heads-up this time01:09
MIK3MANnalioth: I'll check out the ip tables01:09
funkyHatnekrataal, yes i think you could use an ubuntu bootable disk01:09
naliothMIK3MAN: i find port forwarding a pita, i'd DMZ your whole ubuntu box01:09
LasseLLone_Striker, did you try alsamixer ?01:09
Lone_Strikeryou sure it supports the compaq presario 5280 onboard soundcard01:09
cafuegonalioth: I'm often online but afk and/or auto-ignore non-verified users.01:10
Lone_Strikerwhat's alsamixer?01:10
funkyHatguys, can you install packages on-the-fly on ubuntu live CD?01:10
naliothfunkyHat: yes you can01:10
nekrataalfunkyHat, ok, ill see what i can do01:10
LasseLLone_Striker, a program where you can adjust the volume01:10
funkyHatnekrataal, boot to the live cd, and install gparted01:10
MIK3MANnalioth: hmm, never thought about that, do you support DMZ, I mean have you had any security issues?01:10
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Lone_Strikerlet me see01:11
naliothMIK3MAN: if all you are running is bittornado, you have no vulnerabilitys that i know of01:11
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HilferdWE IS LUSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!WE IS LUSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!WE IS LUSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!WE IS LUSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!WE IS LUSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!01:12
desrtHilferd; i agree.01:12
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Hilferddesrt IT'S GOOD!01:12
Lone_Strikerwhere is alsamixer?01:12
MIK3MANnalioth: Im going to try that then thanks, but I still think I have to browse those IP tables cause I know the proper ports are forwarded01:12
Lone_Strikeris it one of the packages?01:12
desrtHilferd; go join #lusers and talk to all 0 of your friends about it01:12
nekrataalcan it be installed without mount the hard drive01:12
desrtLone_Striker; hm.  /usr/bin? :)01:13
funkyHatnekrataal, yes01:13
desrtLone_Striker; it's part of ubuntu-base, so it should always be installed01:13
desrteven on server01:13
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naliothMIK3MAN: i dont think you should bother with iptables01:13
funkyHatnekrataal, it will be gone when you reboot though obviously01:13
naliothMIK3MAN: i'd check your router, instead01:13
Hilferddesrt OK01:13
Lone_Strikerhow do I acccess it then01:14
AzmodanI just installed Ubuntu on a new machine and I got a problem.  The screen turns blank when it should start gdm and writes "sync off-limit".  The LiveCD do likewise.  Any clue ?01:14
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ateveswhen will breezy be released?01:14
desrtateves; early october01:14
atevesdesrt: thx01:14
paxAzmodan: /etc/X11/xorg.conf correct your sync01:14
MIK3MANnalioth: I will just try DMZ, standby01:14
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Azmodanpax: I do I do it ?01:15
HilferdRUSSIA SMILE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:15
paxAzmodan: it's not as hard as you might think. just bacl the conf file01:15
cavediverAnyone good at tv-out and Nvidia ? I have an annoying problem. The size of the disktop is crazy on my tv.01:15
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desrtHilferd; if you upgraded from your C64 you could get a keyboard capable of both upper- *and* lower-case letters01:16
MIK3MANnalioth: Im gonna send you a link hold on01:16
Azmodanpax: Ok, I get it.  Thanks01:16
A[D] minSGLib 2.0 is required to build Gaim; so whats da name of this packlage?01:16
desrtA[D] minS; apt-get build-dep gaim01:17
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desrtA[D] minS; this will install everything required to build gaim for youirself01:17
Hilferddesrt WAT ARE YOU WOANT?01:17
A[D] minSdesrt, i want to isnatall Glib not gaim01:17
desrtA[D] minS; why?01:17
Lone_Strikeri see it, I will try to open it01:18
MIK3MANnalioth: you have PM off?01:18
naliothMIK3MAN: read your status window01:18
A[D] minScause i want to install it01:18
desrtA[D] minS; there are 3 different glib packages depending on what you want to do01:18
mumblesgot to go into london latertoday- hayes  to westminster01:18
A[D] minSdesrt, am compiling gaim support paltalk got it?01:18
Lone_Strikeri see alsamixer01:18
desrtA[D] minS; got it01:18
Lone_Strikerhow do you use it01:18
A[D] minSnow?01:18
desrtA[D] minS; now, type sudo apt-get build-dep gaim01:18
A[D] minSloooooool ok01:18
A[D] minSthx desrt01:18
Lone_Strikerit says executable but when i press it, nothing happens01:19
desrtA[D] minS; build-dep will install all of the development libraries you need to build a package for yourself01:19
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desrtA[D] minS; including glib and all the others01:19
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cavediverNoone have the same problem with Nvidia tv-out, that only half the desktop shows on your TV ?01:20
cavediverOr have had.01:20
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flipyis there any way to know if a package is installed following a pattern?01:21
vladuz976does anybody know where the "~"home key is on dvorak?01:21
MIK3MANnalioth: xchat is different than mirc, I didnt whois you, anyways I guess I will just paste the link in the chan. Here is whats going on... I have bittornado up and running on ubuntu. I chose bittornado because of the advanced features so that I know what is going on with the trackers and stuff. If you are fimiliar with bittornado you will know that a "yellow" light means that you are being firewalled or have port problems. Here comes th01:22
MIK3MANe link...01:22
desrtvladuz976; same place as qwerty01:22
Antinomyanyone want to help a n00b with his first tar?01:22
desrtvladuz976; oh.  you're .uk, right?01:22
cafuegoflipy: dpkg -l | [e] grep <foo>01:22
flipythanks cafuego01:22
desrtshift + it's top-left key01:22
desrtlike, the weird -\ symbol01:22
vladuz976desrt: oh so that is one difference betweenn us and uk01:22
desrtvladuz976; ya01:22
desrtin US it's ` / ~01:22
naliothAntinomy: open a terminal01:22
MIK3MANthis forum has a test .torrent file that gives you a reading01:22
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desrtinstead of 01:23
Antinomynalioth: ok01:23
Antinomynalioth done01:23
naliothAntinomy: go to the dir where the tar in question resides01:23
Antinomyok one sec01:23
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vladuz976desrt: i am getting confused and i don't get that symbol01:23
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desrtvladuz976; ah.. i thought that key on .uk keyboards was the not symbol01:24
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Antinomynalioth ok done01:24
MIK3MANnalioth: even with my system on DMZ I am still getting a message saying that I am firewalled or my ports are not configured01:24
naliothAntinomy: what kind of tar is it?01:24
Antinomynalioth .gz01:24
mumblesto bed i go01:24
MIK3MANnalioth: we can rule out ports if I am DMZ01:24
vladuz976desrt: i don't get it with any combo. that is an important key01:24
flipyis there any package for drupal 4.6.2?01:24
A[D] minSdesrt, do u know which package required for /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6:01:25
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naliothMIK3MAN: i believe you should research your router settings, b/c if you havent fiddled with your box's settings, that's where the problem lies01:25
desrtvladuz976; very odd01:25
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nitinshantharamguys im getting error: method execution failed \_sb_.bat1._bst every 5 sec on m acer ferrari 4000 laptop01:25
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nitinshantharamits an ACPI-1138 error01:25
naliothAntinomy: your first tar.gz type "tar xvzf filename.tar.gz"01:25
desrtA[D] minS; grep /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list01:25
vladuz976desrt: so you press the left shift key plus the top most left key?01:25
naliothAntinomy: and when that is done, type "man tar"01:25
desrtvladuz976; yes01:25
desrtvladuz976; either shift key01:25
desrtnot escape, obviously01:25
desrtbut the key beside 101:25
vladuz976desrt: i get the same with or without shift01:26
desrtvladuz976; evil :(01:26
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Antinomyok done.  I've got a Name/synopsis/description going01:26
Antinomynalioth sorry01:27
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MIK3MANnalioth: I disagree, I had this box up and running last week with Mepis (using fluxbox) with bittornado and there was no firewall. I never changed any router settings until now, I moved to DMZ.01:27
desrtA[D] minS; find it?01:27
vladuz976desrt: are you using US in gnome?01:27
desrtvladuz976; well... "canadian english keyboard"01:27
desrtwhich is basically american01:27
A[D] minSdesrt, yes but alrady installed01:27
desrtA[D] minS; nod.01:28
vladuz976desrt: in my case the gnome input selector only gives me uk option and some norwegian stuff01:28
desrtA[D] minS; i think it's part of the base system01:28
desrtoh. weird.01:28
A[D] minSnod. ?01:28
desrti wonder if maybe you need to install some other packages for the other layouts?01:28
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desrtA[D] minS; it's already installed... should be part of the base system01:28
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carwisHi there, I am a linux newbie. I just downloaded the live dvd. I have a speedtouch broadband modem that I would like to get working on the live distro. I followed a guide found online, but it requires a reboot. I saved the configuration changes I made on a memory card. How do I boot up using these changes?01:30
vladuz976does anybody here know if there is separate packages for keyboard layouts?01:30
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funkyHatcan anyone help me with a bug report?01:31
BurgundaviafunkyHat, sure01:31
vladuz976i searched with aptitude but found nothing01:31
desrtvladuz976; i wish i could be more help... i'm in breezy right now and keyboard layout stuff is totally fried :(01:31
funkyHati tried filing it in bugzilla.ubuntu.org, but i got told it should go in the other bugtracker.... i'll just get the bugzilla link01:31
desrtit seems really weird that you only got norway in your list....01:32
desrtthat list is huge for me01:32
BurgundaviafunkyHat, can you link to the bug you filed?01:32
desrtdid you try telling it that you have a normal 101 keyboard?01:32
desrt(ie: lie to it)01:32
nitinshantharamits an ACPI-1138 error01:32
nitinshantharamguys im getting error: method execution failed \_sb_.bat1._bst every 5 sec on m acer ferrari 4000 laptop01:32
Antinomyquick question - I unzipped the tar, and it created a folder on my desktop. It's the new firefox 1.0.5. When I click on the installer, it tries to install it to the desktop. What directory should I install it to?01:32
vladuz976desrt: not only norway, i have french norway, uk,  polish swedish for dvorak01:32
BurgundaviafunkyHat, that needs to be filed in malone01:33
naliothAntinomy: programs YOU install go in /usr/local/bin01:33
desrtvladuz976; try telling it you have a normal US 101 key keyboard01:33
vladuz976desrt: ok01:33
Antinomynalioth: ok, so move it there?01:33
BurgundaviafunkyHat, go to malone, create an account and file it there01:33
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naliothAntinomy: does it simply move or does it have associated files?01:33
carwisanyone know about boot time options for loading saved configurations [for Live CD distro] 01:33
desrtvladuz976; btw... where is ~ on UK?01:33
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vladuz976desrt: changing the type of keyboard doesn' make a difference to the available langauges under dvorak01:34
Antinomynalioth: hmmmm. It just created a folder on my desktop. I can open a terminal and move it to /usr/local/bin. right?01:34
Antinomynalioth or do I need to unzip it there?01:34
desrtvladuz976; i'm gonna go downstairs to my hoary box and check for you01:34
naliothAntinomy: only the binary needs to go in /usr/local/bin, other libs and stuff go in other folders01:35
vladuz976desrt: thanks01:35
desrtah.  wifi is great01:35
Antinomynalioth: not sure what to do then.  Do I need to manually move all of these files? Or did the tar extract them to where they needed to go?01:35
carwisanyone know the boot time options for loading saved configurations [for Live CD distro] 01:36
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desrtvladuz976; gr.  something is seriously messed here01:37
desrtit won't even let me add a new keyboard layout01:37
naliothAntinomy: i dont use firefox, so am not sure. was there something wrong with the ff available by default?01:37
funkyHatBurgundavia, thanks :)01:38
TOXiC^how can i use ssh? i have installed ubuntu to this computer and i want to install gentoo to my other computer using ssh01:38
vladuz976desrt: hey something really weird. even when i switch back to qwerty it doesn't work. but the shift key works for everything else01:38
BurgundaviafunkyHat, np01:38
cut0ffTOXiC^  type 'man ssh' in a terminal01:38
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Antinomynalioth: well, it wasnt the latest version.  And syn didnt have the latest. So I figured it would be a good way to learn how to extract a program from outside the syn01:38
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TOXiC^cut0ff   i tried it but i didn't understand a thing about it :D01:39
funkyHati think i filed it right :)01:39
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flipyhow can I set the root password for mysql?01:40
naliothTOXiC^: ssh is installed by default01:40
naliothAntinomy: well you've learned how to extract01:40
naliothAntinomy: i'm just not familiar with the contents of the tgz01:41
carwisok, now that you have scanned my pc, can someone help?01:41
TOXiC^nalioth   i know that but i just dunno how to use it01:41
naliothAntinomy: and dont want to guess01:41
A[D] minSconfig.status: error: cannot find input file: intl/Makefile.in <---- what is that means?01:41
naliothTOXiC^: open a terminal and type "ssh username@other.puters.IP.address"01:41
Antinomynalioth: ok, thanks01:41
cut0ffTOXiC^ try to install 'openssh' client and server01:42
TOXiC^ok thanks01:42
naliothAntinomy: you'll find here in linux, the latest isnt necessarily the greatest01:42
vladuz976desrt: hey i even have the same problem when i connect a differnt keybard01:42
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hondjehuh, scanned my pc?01:42
desrtvladuz976; i'm sorry.  i really don't have much experience with this sort of thing01:42
vladuz976desrt: the ~key stopped working no matter what keyboard is connected01:42
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naliothTOXiC^: you will definitely need a sshd on the gentoo-destined box01:42
CarlFKssh client is installed by default, openssh-server is what isn't01:43
desrtvladuz976; my suggestion is to move to canada, reinstall your linux box, and then move back quietly01:43
naliothguys, TOXiC^ is wanting to ssh INTO another box01:43
vladuz976desrt: i'll keep that in mind01:43
cut0ffnalioth huh sorry01:43
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TOXiC^i did start the ssh server on the other computer01:43
GattonIs there one place in Gnome where I can set my file associations?01:43
MIK3MANnalioth: I got it working :O)    it needed DMZ and some tweaking in bittornado. Hope I can now get some decent speeds01:43
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naliothTOXiC^: then "ssh username@ip.address.of.puter" will do it01:44
atevesis anyone using any notifier apps for gmail?01:44
desrtGatton; one place for all file types?01:44
Antinomynalioth: I really just want to practice - I've loaded ubuntu on the desktop so I can screw around with it01:44
naliothMIK3MAN: great!01:44
desrtGatton; you can just set it on a type-by-type basis01:44
Gattondesrt, that would be ideal. basically I can't seem to find a way to tell Gnome to always open certains extensions with the same app01:44
Antinomynalioth: so let me ask you this. If I want to DL a app that isnt in Syn, how do I do that?01:44
naliothAntinomy: ok so read your "man tar" and pack it all back up01:44
vladuz976desrt: wanna know what happened?01:44
desrtGatton; right click on the type of file in question and go to properties01:44
Gattondesrt, that would be a good workaround. but so far i haven't noticed how to do that. like when i right click and choose to open with a different app01:44
desrtGatton; then check under the "open with" tab01:45
Gattondesrt, ok thanks01:45
TOXiC^is it ssh livecd@ip or ssh root@ip?01:45
MIK3MANnalioth: if someone ever has questions on working bittornado just direct them my way, my chance at giving back to the chan01:45
naliothAntinomy: i personally compile from source code01:45
desrtGatton; then pick the radio button beside the application that you want01:45
KB2000ateves: i'm using gbiff... so i activated pop on my gmail... but i would really like a real gmail working thing :)01:45
naliothTOXiC^: its your username on teh box01:45
MIK3MANthis channel has some great support01:45
naliothTOXiC^: once you get access, you can always su or sudo01:45
Gattondesrt, can't believe I didn't see that tab! Thanks!01:45
vladuz976desrt: don't wanna know?01:45
desrtGatton; no prob.01:45
desrtvladuz976; what happened?01:45
atevesKB2000: normally "mail-notification" should support gmail01:45
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TOXiC^i havent changed the username on gentoo installation01:45
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atevesbut it doesn't work01:45
MIK3MANgonna check my speed01:45
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naliothateves: it's been reported tha mail-notification stopped working about a month ago01:46
KB2000ateves: yeah, i tried it and it did work once... but apparently not anymore... i'd die for an update :)01:46
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vladuz976desrt: i removed the japanese language and now it's working... that's a bug01:46
desrthah.  weird.01:46
Antinomynalioth: do you know a good documentation on compiling/unzipping apps? I want to try to go outside the syn box01:46
desrtvladuz976; i didn't see you say it was working :)01:46
naliothAntinomy: there is plenty to read at www.tldp.org01:46
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TOXiC^ssh keeps asking a password.. but i haven't set a password :C01:47
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vladuz976desrt: yes, working, finall. i'm happy. gonna do some "cd ~/" now01:47
desrtvladuz976; you know, you can always just type "cd" on its own :)01:47
BurgundaviaKB2000, gmail changed their interface for that sort of thing01:47
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hondjeyou can just type cd by itself to go to home01:47
Antinomynalioth: thanks chief01:47
KB2000Burgundavia: yeah, but mail-notification SHOULD be updated :)01:47
BurgundaviaKB2000, you can ask a motu nicer to move the Breezy package to hoary01:47
naliothTOXiC^: that may be a problem01:47
Wahyudichecking for Berkeley DB... /usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.201:47
Wahyudichecking for Qt... Qt not installed. Make sure Qt 3.x is installed before proceeding01:47
Wahyudican help me01:48
naliothAntinomy: we're here 24/701:48
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BurgundaviaKB2000, or file a bug in malone01:48
vladuz976desrt: shoot you're right. then i am gonna use mv ~/01:48
Antinomynalioth: you've been very helpful and patient01:48
desrtBurgundavia; that's extremely unlikely to actually happen01:48
Wahyudiwhat's that QT ??01:48
KB2000Burgundavia: is the breezy package working?01:48
desrtvladuz976; :)01:48
BurgundaviaKB2000, don't use it01:48
hondjeusb 3-2: config 1 interface 0 altsetting 0 has 3 endpoint descriptors, different from the interface descriptor's value: 2   <---anyone know wtf that means? :)01:48
naliothAntinomy: you missed all the shouting01:48
KB2000Burgundavia: but does it work? hehe01:48
BurgundaviaKB2000, it might01:48
BurgundaviaKB2000, if you provide the patch, that would be good01:48
Wahyudihellp me just for a moment pls01:48
KB2000Burgundavia: i don't like the word "might" :)01:48
Burgundaviaso they only have to backport the fix01:48
naliothWahyudi: ask your question01:49
Wahyudichecking for Qt... Qt not installed. Make sure Qt 3.x is installed before proceeding01:49
Wahyudiwhat's that QT01:49
KB2000Burgundavia: see then there's the breathing and the.... :)01:49
naliothWahyudi: open synaptic and search for libqt01:49
desrtWahyudi; are you trying to compile a KDE program?01:49
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Wahyudiis kiosk01:49
PlanarPlatypusdoes anyone in here know how one would map an apple USB keyboard on an x86 computer?  Specifically I would like <alt>+3 to give me a hash symbol01:49
desrtis it not in apt?01:50
Wahyudichecking for Berkeley DB... /usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.201:50
Wahyudichecking for Qt... Qt not installed. Make sure Qt 3.x is installed before proceeding01:50
Wahyudii'm still01:50
Wahyudimany Qt in here01:50
naliothPlanarPlatypus: in your keyboard layouts, choose macintosh01:50
desrtWahyudi; you'll probably need a lot more than qt01:50
PlanarPlatypusnalioth, done that, problem is I then have no hash key01:50
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rasuhurusay, anyone know any really good howtos for dual-booting ubuntu and xp on two drives?  google gives me too many to wade through.01:50
carwisanyone know about live cds?01:51
nitinshantharamguys my touchpad randomly stopped working01:51
nitinshantharamplease help01:51
KB2000Burgundavia: i don't mind contributing a little here and there... but getting familiar with so many open source projects will take so much time...01:51
naliothWahyudi: you need libqt3(something)-dev installed01:51
nitinshantharamim on a acer ferrari 400001:51
Wahyudioh ic01:51
Wahyudiok wait01:51
desrtWahyudi; a good place to start would probably be the kdelibs01:51
BurgundaviaKB2000, file a bug anyway01:51
naliothPlanarPlatypus: hmm, it works on my ibook01:51
Burgundaviasomeone else may do it01:51
carwisi am on an acer ferrari 320001:51
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KB2000Burgundavia: hmm... i might01:51
nitinshantharamcarwis can u tell me the driver u used in xorg.conf01:51
desrtWahyudi; try installing kdelibs4-dev01:51
PlanarPlatypusnalioth, heh, thing is this isn't a mac, this might be the problem.  Right now I am suing the US layout which means I have no poind symbol01:52
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naliothPlanarPlatypus: i just switched to 'macintosh' t'other day (got tired of havin a keypad that didnt work)01:52
ColonelKernelInstead of using first in the list, suggest to define your LANG environment variable like this: LANG=en_US <----- how do I do this?01:53
carwisi wouldn't know where to start - I am a newbie. I just downloaded the live cd and it worked. but I am now trying to get the broadband modem to work01:53
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Wahyudi1 hours ?? to download it ????01:53
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nitinshantharamcarwis in the terminal type nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:53
desrtWahyudi; qt/kde are huge01:53
nitinshantharamand scroll down to the Mouse section01:53
desrtColonelKernel; sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales01:54
nitinshantharamand tell me what is listed under there01:54
funkyHatcarwis, there are some ADSL modems that just aren't supported by linux01:54
ColonelKerneldesrt, thanks01:54
vladuz976desrt: you know i rearanged my keys, they only bad thing is that the little bumps for orientationn are gone now01:54
desrtvladuz976; ya.  i hate that01:54
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KB2000i'm sure if the mail-notification thing got enough donations the guy would love to do it... i wouldn't mind giving a little donation to get it working... but i probably wouldn't pay enough by myself to make him happy01:54
desrtvladuz976; it'd be nice if you could find people selling proper dvorak keyboards01:54
desrtvladuz976; but they all suck01:54
vladuz976desrt: maybe there is something u can buy01:54
ateveslord, i would kill for a gmail notifier ;)01:54
vladuz976desrt: u can01:54
funkyHatdesrt, vladuz976, get a set of keyboard stickers :P01:54
bimberiWahyudi: From what I can tell you'll need libqt3c102-mt (lots of qt3 runtime packages seem to depend on it)01:55
carwisthis one is - I found drivers online - but I can't reboot because I lose my settings. How do you restore the saved settings?01:55
vladuz976funkyHat: yeah but will they cover the old ones01:55
ColonelKerneldesrt, theres a bunch of the english ones checked01:55
HrdwrBoBdesrt: buy an IBM modelm01:55
carwisnitinshantharam: cant do that now - only have 1 pc - and running windows now01:55
HrdwrBoBmovable keycaps01:55
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desrtColonelKernel; after you go past that screen it will ask you which one you want to be default01:55
funkyHatvladuz976, does it matter? get ones in a bold colour01:55
HrdwrBoByou can change the keyboard to be whatever01:55
vladuz976funkyHat: style01:55
funkyHatyou could probably get ones that cover the tops of the keys too01:55
philipsIs there anyway to recover from a bad Breezy X upgrade?  I just did it after seeing the WARNING01:55
DiscipulusI went to install a python package01:56
Discipulusand I got an error01:56
naliothphilips: not that i know of. what went bad?01:56
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desrtbimberi; that's included in kdelibs4, it seems01:56
ColonelKerneldesrt, thank you01:56
desrtColonelKernel; no prob01:56
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philipsnalioth: x-window-system-core has missing packages01:57
desrtColonelKernel; you'll have to logout/in for the change to take effect01:57
philipsnalioth: err dependencies01:57
ColonelKerneldesrt, thanks again :D01:57
bimberidesrt: yes - but if he only needs qt ...01:57
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desrtbimberi; afaik, kiosk is a full-blown kde app01:57
naliothphilips: yes, xwindows is broken in breezy atm, the rest of the system works, i believe01:57
bimberidesrt: k01:57
desrtK :)01:57
philipsnalioth: is there anyway to fix it... I have a broken system now01:58
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desrtphilips; are you running breezy?01:59
KB2000philips: the ubuntu breezy forum has lots of info to get your x system up and running... but it ain't easy :)01:59
naliothphilips: i'm not that knowledgable on breezy01:59
PlanarPlatypusnalioth, the problem is when i try and use the <alt> + 3 binding (aka mac) it gets hijacked by applications (eg xchat and bask)01:59
funkyHati learnt dvorak the other week, i was well impressed with myself ^.^01:59
desrtphilips; X is broken in breezy the past few days01:59
desrtphilips; wait a day or two more and it will probably be fixed01:59
crazy2kI'm trying to find a package that Synaptic can't find for some reason. It's Firefox's translation to Spanish. The package is called: mozilla-firefox-locale-es-ar02:00
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crazy2kHow can I find it?02:00
desrtphilips; i'm affected by exactly the same problem :)02:00
philipsdesrt: and you are just waiting it out?02:00
naliothPlanarPlatypus: try using the windows + keypad layout (you are using a Apple keyboard with the number pad, right?)02:00
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desrtphilips; i've got my laptop to fall back on02:00
axis^zzzdesrt,  how goes02:00
desrtaxis; ok02:00
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nitinshantharamcan anyone help me with this dman touchpad?02:01
KB2000philips: i ran breezy for a while... it's possible but you have to follow the forum discussions and do a lot of tweaking to get it to work, but it's possible... :)02:01
desrtjust doing the help channel thing :)02:01
PlanarPlatypusnalioth, yes, trying now02:01
naliothcrazy2k: they are behind on some translations02:01
axisdesrt: hehe for sure :)  right on brotha.. :)  . I'm on my way out now.. cy'all latah02:01
desrt"why do people run breezy?"02:02
crazy2knalioth, so? There's no way to get it? I mean, can't I install the same package but Debian's one?02:02
PlanarPlatypusnalioth, erm, I might be being dense here but I can't find the keyboard map you mentioned02:02
KB2000desrt: you can't help but get a little tempted by all the new packages :)02:02
naliothPlanarPlatypus: i run a PPC, and am not that familiar with keyboard layouts, let me look02:02
desrtKB2000; :)02:02
KB2000i did :)02:02
KB2000but i'm running hoary now :)02:02
desrti've gone back and forth a few times now02:03
naliothcrazy2k: you'll need to ask someone else for verification that the languange pack is ok to install from debian02:03
desrti was running a strange hybrid for about a month, too :)02:03
KB2000hehe... ohh, that doesn't sound good :)02:03
desrt+ pre-cvs gnome :)02:03
KB2000i'm doing the backports now :)02:03
ColonelKernelif I had a mac i'd put osx on it02:03
desrtbackports are a good way to alleviate the breezy-lust :)02:04
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ColonelKernelnot bagging on linux or anything cmon its a custom build of freebsd just for macs02:04
KB2000it sure is... it's not quite enough... but it helps :)02:04
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KB2000breezy-lust is actually a term... :)02:04
crazy2kOk. Then I'll have to wait till they make the translation available. Thank you very much.02:04
desrtit is now :)02:04
ctrlERcan someone help me with the following error: I did module-assistant fakesource and next module-assistant build loop-aes but it keeps telling me that  /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8-2-386 seems to contain unconfigured kernel source, how can i get a module to build using a stock kernel?02:04
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naliothColonelKernel: i have a mac, and i'm running ubuntu02:04
desrtnalioth; represent, brotha.02:05
KB2000desrt: just until the next release :)02:05
cafuegoand so am I.02:05
desrtcafuego; represent, brotha.02:05
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ColonelKernelI just dont understand the choice, it seems like a waste of good hardware02:05
cafuegoTwo, in fact (well, three)02:05
ColonelKernelmacs are made for graphics and audio02:05
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huttanHello, can anyone help me getting my wireless networkcard working? It's a netgear WG511T02:05
KB2000desrt: then it's breezy-happiness and whatever-lust :)02:05
naliothColonelKernel: i look at it as a good use of good hardware02:05
funkyHatnalioth, do you dual-boot?02:05
desrtKB2000; nod.02:05
Chinmanis the pybabelphish support to translate the english to chinese?02:05
cafuegoColonelKernel: Try running Tiger on a G4 1GHz and you'll understand.02:05
desrt(7 if you count the CPUs and not the boxes) :)02:05
naliothfunkyHat: i have that capability, but havnt booted into OSX since i got ubuntu02:06
ColonelKernelwhat is Tiger02:06
jnkColonelKernel, the kind of custom freebsd where you have to pay an upgrade to tiger to get your tv output working...02:06
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desrtColonelKernel; os 10.402:06
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ColonelKernelive put Jaguar on for people and was very impressed02:06
kevinokay back for a bit.....that is until my son bugs me for something else lol02:06
cafuegoColonelKernel: it's certainly pretty and polished, but fast it is not.02:06
ColonelKernelit even installs on systems below the min requirements, I put it on my ex-friends g3 laptop and it worked and worked well02:06
cafuegoColonelKernel: And with Ubuntu (or linux in general) you get a nicer choice of free apps.02:07
desrtcafuego; os 10.4.1 cleaned some stuff up02:07
naliothColonelKernel: also, OSX is bsd-based, so lots of really cool bsd proggys wont compile on it02:07
OdiiNcan i set up swap  memory into a normal folder, nor in a separate partition?02:07
ColonelKernelyeah maybe but osx is what those killer mac recording and graphics apps are built for02:07
jnkColonelKernel, also you don't have the full power of apt on os x (fink is really not the same thing902:07
cafuegodesrt: No, OS 10.4.1 (and 2) appear to be slower still.02:07
ColonelKerneldont get me wrong, the gimp is nice for a free product but photoshop it aint02:07
naliothOdiiN: i believe only a partition02:07
desrtcafuego; not in my experience02:07
cafuegodesrt: There's a massive performance hit between 10.3.9 and them.02:07
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desrtcafuego; but admittedly i don't use them a whole lot02:08
ColonelKerneland cinelerra is definitely no avid02:08
naliothColonelKernel: if you are in the killer mac recording and graphics field, the mac is for you02:08
desrti think most of tiger is a waste of time02:08
ginventHow do I specify what smtp server sendmail uses?02:08
auk!info xsmbrowser02:08
desrtginvent; something about smart relay...02:08
KB2000ColonelKernel: i've used gimp as a photoshop replacement and i don't really see what gimp could do better02:08
ubotuxsmbrowser: (X11 tool for navigating SMB Networks), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 3.4.0-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 81 kB, Installed size: 748 kB02:08
ColonelKernelid give a teste for a dual-ganything mac destop02:08
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bimberihuttan: Have a look for some directions on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards02:08
ginventsmart relay?02:08
jnkginvent, you're using sendmail? don't you want to reconfigure postfix ?02:08
naliothColonelKernel: so would i, to run ubuntu on it02:08
cafuegoginvent: Set Rs<remote server address>02:08
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ColonelKerneli'd run avid and protools on it02:09
ColonelKerneland nothing else02:09
cafuegoginvent: I concur that just using postfix would be a far better idea, though.02:09
desrtginvent; edit /etc/postfix/main.cf02:09
ginventah ok... will that work for everyones?02:09
OdiiNnalioth any utility to split the ext3 partition where ubuntu is installed into 2 separate to allow swap ?02:09
desrtginvent; edit the relayhost = line02:09
desrtput your smtp server in there02:09
ctrlERcan someone help me with the question above?02:09
KB2000man, this channel is going fast... are people keeping up or just reading individual discussions? hehe02:09
naliothOdiiN: yes, qtparted or gparted (both frontends to parted)02:09
desrtthen restart postfix02:09
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naliothKB2000: it helps greatly when nicks are prefaced02:09
KB2000nalioth: it sure is02:10
ctrlERI wrote:  I did module-assistant fakesource and next module-assistant build loop-aes but it keeps telling me that  /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8-2-386 seems to contain unconfigured kernel source, how can i get a module to build using a stock kernel?02:10
ginventSo, I should change relayhost to equal my mail.pacbell.net?02:10
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auk!info expectk02:10
ubotuexpectk: (A Tk/X11 version of the expect program), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 5.42.1-1.1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 68 kB, Installed size: 124 kB02:10
funkyHathow can i make gaim not display the contacts window when it loads?02:10
ginvent<--- super newbie... sorry02:10
auk!info expect02:10
ubotuexpect: (A program that "talks" to other programs), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 5.42.1-1.1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 265 kB, Installed size: 628 kB02:10
desrtginvent; possibly in square brackets02:10
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KB2000what does "!info something" mean?02:10
ginventwhy square brackets?02:10
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cafuegodesrt: No, not in square brackets.02:10
jnkctrlER, I don't know, maybe install the kernel headers instead of the kernel source if you don't compile the kernel yourself02:11
desrtginvent; ok.  just on its own then :)02:11
cafuegoginvent: just the address, nothing else.02:11
naliothKB2000: !info <pkgname> tells you about the package in ubuntu02:11
desrtcafuego; i never remember if it's sendmail or postfix that like them02:11
ginventno brackets... so I just put relayhost = mail.pacbell.net   and everything will go out that mail?02:11
KB2000!info mail-notification02:11
desrtginvent; yes02:11
ubotumail-notification: (Mail notification in system tray), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 241 kB, Installed size: 1116 kB02:11
cafuegoginvent: it will work for anyone who users your linux box as mail relay (or sends mail directly from it)02:11
KB2000wow :)02:11
ginventSendmail is used for asterisk...02:11
ginventthat is what I want to change.02:11
ctrlERjnk, i've done that, but loop-aes doesnt buid with headers only02:11
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cafuegodesrt: they both (can) need them in lookup tabled, but not in the config file.02:12
jnkctrlER, well try to configure the kernel then :)02:12
ginventSo if I change it in the postfix... sendmail will go out that one too?02:12
ctrlERjnk, but my kernel is configured, its a stock kernel02:12
cafuegodesrt: [ip.addr.ess]  would prevent it from doing a lookup.02:12
desrtcafuego; nod02:12
desrtcafuego; i'm used to "foo.bar.com" meaning "MX record for..."02:12
jnkginvent, postfix provides for a sendmail command but it's still postifx behind it unless you actually install sendmail (don't!)02:12
desrtand "[foo.bar.com] " meaning "A record for..."02:12
cafuegoginvent: you don't have sendmail if you have postfix.02:12
jnkctrlER, I mean, configure the kernel source you have installed02:13
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ginventOK cool...02:13
cafuegodesrt: well possible that I got it wrong ;-)02:13
ginventsorry for the dufieness of me today.02:13
ginventI assume I have to restart postfix...02:13
ctrlERjnk, how can i do that?02:13
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ctrlERjnk, could you just point me in the right direction? :)02:13
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jnkctrlER, go in the directory, type "make gconfig" IIRC02:13
xtaniumhey, how would i dual boot ubuntu and os x on a mac?02:13
xtaniumi don't want to have to format my hd02:14
desrtcafuego; i really don't know :)02:14
jnkctrlER, tell me if it works02:14
cafuegoginvent: sudo postfix reload02:14
desrtyou *do* want square brackets02:14
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desrti have relayhost = [copacetic.desrt.ca]  in my working config02:14
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ginventI do?02:15
ginventor don't02:15
cafuegoxtanium: make sure you have free unpartitioned space on disk, then install ubuntu. the installer will do the rest.02:15
desrtit might not matter, but if it does, you want them02:15
cafuegodesrt: mine has no brackets and works fine too.02:15
jnkginvent, you know you can simply type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix02:15
desrtso just put them anyway02:15
naliothxtanium: w/o partitioning it's diffecult02:15
ginventjnk, didn't know that... thanks...02:15
ctrlERjnk,  it gives me the follow: scripts/kconfig/mconf.c:91: error: static declaration of 'current_menu' follows non-static declaration02:15
desrtcafuego; only because your relayhost doesn't have a conflicting MX record02:15
cafuegomind you, it DOES relay to the MX for that domain.02:15
xtaniumdesrt: it will just auto-partition?02:15
naliothxtanium: if you have free space, yes02:15
xtaniumis 9 gigs enough?02:16
ctrlERthis is the same error module-assistant fakesource02:16
naliothxtanium: go for it02:16
cafuegoxtanium: more than enough02:16
ginventIs there a gui setup for postfix?02:16
ctrlERjnk, this is the same error module-assistant fakesource gives me02:16
xtaniumso even if the space is formatted on like +HFS, it will still repartition?02:16
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jnkctrlER, this is weird, how did you install those sources'02:17
xtanium(HFS is osx's file system)02:17
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naliothxtanium: yes, lots of us run macs here02:17
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naliothxtanium: i believe there is a resizing tool on the installer02:18
jnkctrlER, correct way is installing the package linux-source-2.6.1002:18
naliothxtanium: i recommend a total repartitioning, tho (personally)02:18
ctrlERapt-get install ....02:18
TOXiC^w00t i got that ssh working :D i only had to change the root password for my othe computer02:18
xtaniumquestion 2: can i install it onto a fw hd?02:18
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ctrlERerrr, but i use other kernel (im in debian...)02:19
naliothxtanium: not at this point02:19
xtaniumok, thanks!02:19
naliothxtanium: b/c the kernel isnt f/w booting aware yet02:19
xtaniumand the ubuntu installer only requires 1 cd, right?02:19
ctrlERbut i install the package linux-source for my kernel02:19
naliothxtanium: yessir, the rest comes over the net02:19
jnkctrlER, it's probably a problem with your version of gcc02:20
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LasseLI really miss a tool where I can see which files various processes request on the filesystem02:21
LasseLlike filemon for windows02:21
jnkctrlER, what's the exact package for the kernel source and for gcc ?02:21
jnkLasseL, like lsof ?02:21
LasseLgood stuf02:21
ctrlERgcc (GCC) 4.0.1 (Debian 4.0.1-2)02:22
ctrlERdont know how to get the kernel source version?02:22
ctrlERuname -a?02:22
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rasuhuruis there anyway to dualboot without resizing your windows partition?02:23
Heart_have problems with mounting my ntfs win-partition02:23
Wckdkl0wncan anyone help me with installing a plugin for xchat?02:23
Heart_have now  /dev/hda5 on /media/windows_d type ntfs (ro,gid=1000,nls=utf8)02:23
jnkgive that too, but give also the version of the source package (see with "dpkg -l kernel-source*"  don't issue this command in a directory where there is a file/directory beginning in kernel-source)02:23
TOXiC^because the guys on #gentoo channel (this isn't advertising :D) don't want to help me.. maybe someone on here would help me maybe? what gentoo stage package should i download x86 or i686? i have 32bit AMD (athlon i guess)02:23
admrl_can anyone help me enable direct rendering..?02:23
Heart_my user has gid=1000 but i can not cd to /media/windows_d :(02:23
X3Nwhat card admrl_02:23
CarlFKrasuhuru - add a 2nd drive02:24
rasuhurualready done02:24
PlanarPlatypusWckdkl0wn, yes, which plugin?02:24
naliothTOXiC^: 68602:24
CarlFKrasuhuru - then yes.  install away. the ubuntu installer will see the windows stuff and let you isntall around it, then setup the boot loader to let you pick02:24
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admrl_GeForce FX 5200 i think02:25
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jnkTOXiC^, return to the #gentoo channel with this ticket:  "The #ubuntu channel kindly ask the #gentoo channel to answer this question. Thanks."02:25
CarlFKrasuhuru - it really is that easy ;)02:25
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rasuhuruall that googling for nothing.02:25
PlanarPlatypusTOXiC^, K702:25
X3Nadmrl_, install "nvidia-glx"02:25
naliothHeart_: you want to mount your stuff?02:25
admrl_just w/ apt-get02:25
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Heart_nalioth: yes02:25
X3Nyeah that'll do admrl_02:25
CarlFKrasuhuru -thats cuz it is so easy - I wonder if google has instructions for turning on a light... ;)(02:25
X3Napt-get install nvidia-glx02:25
nalioths_dogHeart_: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically02:25
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kawsyIs there an easy way for me to install warty if the raid modules I need are not included?02:26
X3Nadmrl_, you have to change the drivers to the ones you've just installed now02:26
Wckdkl0wnplanarplatypus xmms-info... the files i extracted are a .pl and a .theme file02:26
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X3Nadmrl_, do you know how to use vi ?02:26
elianyone here use synergy?02:26
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CarlFKeli - 2 frinds do, the say it rocks02:27
Heart_only run this file and all win-partitions are autom. mounted in /media/*?02:27
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naliothHeart_: yes as it explains02:27
elii have installed it, but no manual of any sort was installed on it02:27
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Wckdkl0wnanyone know how to install a .pl and a .theme file for a plugin on xchat?02:28
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eliI have seen synergy work. it looks good and works seamlessly over network02:28
X3Nadmrl_, because what you need to do now is edit /etc/X11/xorg.con and replace where it says "nv" to "nvidia"02:28
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naliothWckdkl0wn: the .pl goes in your .xchat/plugins or scripts folder02:28
X3N* /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:28
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naliothWckdkl0wn: i have no idea about the theme02:28
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ed1tWckdkl0wn, X-Chat load plugins?02:28
admrl_i use nano X3N02:29
ed1tX-Chat > Load plugins or script02:29
Wckdkl0wni put them in the /xchat2 folder like i did the rest of the plugins i installed02:29
X3Nadmrl_, ah ok then02:29
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admrl_:) thanx02:29
Wckdkl0wnedit i tryed that02:29
X3Nadmrl_, you'll have to restart X i'm affraid02:29
admrl_dpkg-split: error reading /cdrom//pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10/nvidia-glx_1.0.7174-0ubuntu1_i386.deb: Input/output error02:29
admrl_dpkg: error processing /cdrom//pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10/nvidia-glx_1.0.7174-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack):02:29
admrl_ subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 202:29
admrl_Errors were encountered while processing:02:29
admrl_ /cdrom//pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10/nvidia-glx_1.0.7174-0ubuntu1_i386.deb02:29
admrl_E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:29
naliothadmrl_: dont do that here, use a pastebin, or #flood02:30
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admrl_whoops sorry about that02:30
X3Nadmrl_, don't bother using the cdrom02:30
_frankadmrl_: bad cd maybe?02:30
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admrl_how do i go without the cdrom02:30
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admrl_i think that might b it _frank02:31
X3Nadmrl_, comment it out in your  /etc/apt/sources.list02:31
X3Nthe cdrom refferences that is02:31
naliothadmrl_: open your /etc/apt/sources.list using "sudo" and put a # in front of the cdrom line02:31
Wckdkl0wnError loading '/home/admin/.xchat2/xmms-info.pl':02:31
Wckdkl0wn Can't locate Xmms/Remote.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 2) line 3.02:31
Wckdkl0wn BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 2) line 3.02:31
naliothadmrl_: save it and reload your apt-get02:31
admrl_i know how to do it02:31
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admrl_thanx :)02:31
naliothWckdkl0wn: dont paste in here02:31
X3Nah uncoment the universe lines02:32
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nalioththe ops are gonna start slappin you guys around02:32
X3Nthose are useful02:32
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naliothreka: how you been?02:33
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rekanalioth: good. went back to uni this week.02:33
naliothreka: wish i was back at uni02:33
rekanalioth: i wish i was finished. :D i dropped by a few times but you were supposedly sleeping :)02:34
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cajunwhere can i find a listing for the ubuntu filesystem hierarchy?  i'm having trouble finding....i need to upgrade GAIM and I need to find out what directory it is installed in02:34
X3Nsudo updatedb02:35
X3Nsudo locate gaim02:35
desrtcajun; check out /var/lib/dpkg/info/gaim.list02:35
bpucciocajun: you can always tray and locate it with the locate command02:35
naliothreka: ya, that zZz noise covers up a lot of mischief02:35
cajunah.   thanks02:35
desrtcajun; it lists all files involved with gaim02:35
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bpuccioalternatively, there's a document on the debian sites somewhere that describes where each package should put what files, ubuntu does pretty myuch the same AFAIK02:36
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ksymsI have a sound blaster live 7.1, in the alsa website there is an explanation of how installing it. Should I follow this one or is there specific instructions for ubuntu?02:37
desrtksyms; live or live 24bit?02:37
desrtmy condolences02:37
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desrtthere's an alsa-source package that will probably help you02:38
ksymsdesrt, it does work. it's in the website.02:38
cajunlocate didn't help me much.   the site for gaim says to extract the archive into the directory where gaim is installed and run the makefile to recompile it02:38
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desrtcajun; what website is this?02:38
ksymsdesrt, why the condolences then?02:38
X3Ncajun, have you ever compiled something from source before ?02:39
desrtksyms; because it's a pain to get it to work compared to normal live02:39
desrtksyms; and it's not a very good card02:39
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cajunonce or twice02:39
naliothcajun: use your favorite pkg mangler to remove the gaim you've got02:39
calcanyone know how to make xlibs install on breezy?02:39
cajunit won't remove my settings will it?02:39
naliothcajun: if you are compiling it, it should install by default into the proper directorys02:39
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desrtdon't uninstall gaim.02:39
ksymsdesrt, I have it in my debian at work. It is much better then the old 5.1.02:39
capiAnyone know how to override the Gnome resolution?02:39
naliothcajun: no your settins are in your ~/ folder02:39
desrtit will take ubuntu-desktop with it02:39
reka!tell capi about fixres02:40
desrtksyms; but it offloads most of its work onto your CPU02:40
cajunso how should i upgrade then?  gaim v 1.4 isnt' in synaptic02:40
ksymsdesrt, I have enough here...02:40
desrtcajun; have you tried backports?02:40
cajunso i have to do it manually02:40
robotgeekcajun: is there an update to gaim?02:40
capireka, what is fixres02:40
cajunonly on gaim.sourceforge.net02:40
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cajunwhat is backports?02:41
rekacapi: ubotu should have sent a pm to you02:41
cajuni'm still VERY new to linux...learning a little at a time02:41
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capireka, ah see it.02:41
tankiFoamY_is_DrunK, when you finish the clock i want to see pics02:41
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=== calc found answer in bugzilla
FoamY_is_DrunKtanki i will be more than happy to show you them02:42
MinuoWhere should I put commands that I need to run before the network comes up?02:42
desrtgaim 1.4 isn't in backports yet02:43
X3Ngaim 1.4 is old..02:44
desrtbut 1.3.1 is02:44
desrtgaim 1.4 is about a week old...02:44
FoamY_is_DrunKtanki give me your email i'll show you the finished product02:44
FoamY_is_DrunKi do have one built02:44
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cajuni have deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted02:44
cajun in my sources.list file02:44
X3Noh yes, forgot i'm using gaim cvs02:44
cajundo i still need to put in the line that backports website recommends?02:45
cajunsince i won't find gaim 1.4 in backports, can anyone help me out with my upgrade?02:45
naliothcajun: it's recommended you comment both those lines from backports out when you'r not actively d/l a program02:45
cajuni'd really appreciate it02:46
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desrtcajun; can you wait another week or so?02:46
desrtcajun; gaim 1.4 will be in backports02:46
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cajunok.   i'll wait a week then02:46
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CraZy675Hi, I have a big problem: I am running kubuntu 5.04 and when I boot i get the message "Contains a File system with errors: check forced"02:48
capireka, thanks but that wasn't what I needed, I've tried all that three times over. Thanks though.02:49
naliothCraZy675: EVERY time?02:49
CraZy675Then I get "buffer I/O error on device hda1, logical block" then some numbers02:49
CraZy675nalioth, yes everytime02:49
naliothCraZy675: how old is your HD?02:49
FoamY_is_DrunKi receved an email that wasen't porn omg could i have actually gotten rid of all the junk mail?02:49
rekacapi: i'll walk you through then....post your xorg.conf to the pastebin in the topic02:50
FoamY_is_DrunKmozilla thunderbird rules02:50
CraZy675pretty old02:50
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CraZy6756 years02:50
CraZy675no 402:50
naliothCraZy675: please install "smartmontools" with your fave package manager02:50
CraZy675its 4 years this september02:50
oompahey I got a problem. I converted an ntfs hard drive to fat and then booted into linux but linux still thinks it's ntfs02:51
oompacan't mout it as fat02:51
Razor-Xany LaTeXers in here now?02:51
nalioths_dogoompa: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically02:51
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rekaRazor-X: still learning....so i guess i'm half a LaTeXer. :)02:52
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tritiumRazor-X, I am here.02:52
delltonyquestion isn't there an extention for firefox that will allow you to view ie specific pages (as in make the website think your using ie) ? trying to get some things on direct tv to work thanks02:53
oompanalioths_dog: thanks but isn't that kinda odd?02:53
tritiumWhat's going on with LaTeX, Razor-X ?02:53
Razor-Xtritium: here02:53
Razor-X\[\exp_{b} (x) = b^x, b \in \mathbb{R}, b \noteq 0, x \in \mathbb{R}, x \noteq 1\] 02:53
Razor-Xthat generates an error, oddly enough02:53
CraZy675nalioth, apt-get install smartmontools doesn't seem to work02:53
capireka, I'm getting help in the gnome IRC currently, so I'll just stick with them. Thanks though :D02:53
tritiumRazor-X, one sec.02:53
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Razor-Xtritium: mmmkay02:54
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Razor-Xdelltony: I would doubt it02:54
oompanalioths_dog: It gave me the error no usable windows/mac partitions found02:54
seven_six_twodoes ubuntu live not include partimage?02:55
Razor-XIE has its own rendering ways, why would there be an extension that changes that? I'ld think the devs would add that into the rendering engine itself02:55
Razor-Xseven_six_two: use dd02:55
seven_six_twomy friend needs to back up a partition b4 he messes with his ati drivers02:55
rekacapi: no probs.   <whisper> you'll be back </whisper>02:55
Razor-Xno need for partimage, dd is awesome02:55
CraZy675I have a root prompt02:55
CraZy675but thats about it02:55
seven_six_twowill dd copy to 1 file?02:55
Razor-Xof course02:55
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Razor-Xdd's older than UNIX (I believe)02:55
seven_six_twook what is su pwd for live cd?02:55
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naliothCraZy675: do you have a liveCD?02:56
Razor-Xseven_six_two: there is no su password, you prepend a sudo to execute things as root02:56
seven_six_twooh yeah. sorry. i forgot about that02:56
naliothCraZy675: i suspect a DOA HD02:56
jasoncohenseven_six_two, there is no root password and you can run programs with sudo in the live cd without entering a password02:56
teferiokay, who feels up to a challenge?02:56
Razor-Xtritium: and I've included amsmath and amsfonts into my document02:56
delltonyRazor-X, i thought there was actually i know there was something to do with changing the browser x-header or something ill keep looking02:56
CraZy675nalioth, yes i have a live cd02:56
Razor-Xdelltony: you mean change referrer?02:57
CraZy675i suspect a dead hdd too but I'd like to recover what I can02:57
tritiumRazor-X, try \usepackage{amssymb} then02:57
naliothCraZy675: please boot from it, come back in here when you do02:57
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teferibig challenge.02:57
CraZy675should I use the kubuntu live cd or the ubuntu live cd?02:57
Razor-Xit won't render as IE, but it'll tell the web page that it is IE, doesen't work that often though *shrugs*02:57
Razor-Xtritium: what's the difference?02:57
naliothCraZy675: ubuntu, if ya don't mind02:57
Razor-XI'ld prefer Kubuntu ;)02:58
CraZy675im going for ubuntu live 4.102:58
naliothCraZy675: any will do02:58
seven_six_twook i have no clue how to back up a whole partition with dd...02:58
splittawhats the default wm for ubuntu-lite ?02:58
Razor-Xseven_six_two: read the man page ;)02:58
Razor-Xi'll save ya the trouble, though02:58
delltonynah not spoofin the refererr02:59
tritiumRazor-X, I haven't looked at the differences that closely to tell you02:59
seven_six_twoi have o'reilley desktop reference02:59
Razor-Xsudo dd if=/dev/hdx of=/path/to/partition/file/02:59
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Razor-Xseven_six_two: man pages are awesome02:59
rekathere's an ubuntu-lite?02:59
Razor-Xnever read a man page before?!02:59
Razor-Xreka: there is?02:59
ed1tsplitta, where?02:59
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rekaRazor-X: dunno.  is there?02:59
seven_six_twoi have, but i use my book more often...thanks for that02:59
splittait was 503 earlier03:00
Razor-Xtritium: didn't change much03:00
delltonyuser agent switcher found it03:00
Razor-Xi'm not sure what's generating the error, 3 actually03:00
seven_six_twowith dd the source is mounted too?03:00
nameless1im getting a error when i boot up ubuntu it says ERROR failed to initialize HAL!, whats hal and how do i fix this?03:00
Razor-Xseven_six_two: no, it refers to the physical drive, no mounting needed03:00
tritiumRazor-X, ok, give me a second.  I'll pull out Helmut and Kopka03:00
splittasee distrowatch weekly news03:00
seven_six_twocool. thanks03:00
Razor-Xtritium: heh, ok03:00
Razor-XI never have the patience to read anything on a periodical manner03:01
Razor-Xadd a / at the end ;003:01
rekanameless1: is your name Dave? :D </lame joke>03:01
tritiumRazor-X, you know about texdoctk, right?03:01
ed1tsplitta, its unofficial, its not supported by Ubunu03:01
Razor-Xtritium: nopes03:01
nameless1reka, lol nope03:02
tritiumRazor-X, you should look into it.03:02
Razor-Xtritium: what is it?03:02
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splittai've yet to see it03:02
Razor-Xi'm writing out a whole set of course notes for a friend, it's 112 lines so far, it details the important concepts taught in the course03:02
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rekanameless1: i suggest you google while you wait for an answer.03:03
CraZy675ok ubuntu live has booted03:03
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splittastill waiting for the devs to find some moew bandwidth :o)03:03
tritiumRazor-X, documentation for tex in the tetex-bin package.03:03
naliothCraZy675: when it comes up, lemme know (or install "smartmontools")03:03
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nameless1reka, ok will do03:03
splittathought i would try kate_os in the meantime03:04
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splittad/l their 2.1 live iso03:04
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tritiumRazor-X, oh, I missed that.  \noteq is not defined.  You should use \neq or !=03:04
splittakinda ot sorry guys03:04
Razor-Xohhh, it's \neq! now I remember03:04
Razor-Xsilly me ;)03:04
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pjwHi all, Is Ubuntu concordant with Linux Standard Base 2.0 or 3.0? I have asked yet, but I haven't received an answer.03:05
CraZy675nalioth, I'm trying to install smartmontools now03:05
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KyralHoly cow, we have ops03:06
Razor-Xnow, all that's left is Circles, Absolute Value Function, Elipses, Parabolas, and Hyperbolas03:06
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tritiumpjw, lsb_release -a03:06
Razor-Xand some nice properties of factorials and sigma notation03:06
naliothCraZy675: should have no problems03:06
Razor-XKyral: hardly, Algebra II notes for a friend03:06
Razor-XI know this stuff, so I did add my own special stuff03:07
KyralHigh School Algebra or College?03:07
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Razor-X(technically speaking)03:07
CraZy675nalioth, "couldn't find package ...."03:07
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KyralAlgebra bites you in the ass03:07
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seven_six_twosudo mount /dev/sda2 mounteddir     just froze on live cd03:08
Razor-XKyral: I prefer algebraic concepts to other math concepts ;)03:08
naliothCraZy675: what version is your kubuntu?03:08
KyralI gotta take Calc 2 next semester because it took me 2 semesters to pass Calc 103:08
seven_six_twoit actually just froze the whole system03:08
ed1tKyral, lol good luck with that....i took calc 2 last semester...ooo man03:09
XTCanybody using the D-Link di-524 router?03:09
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CraZy675on the harddrive kubuntu 5.04 is installed the live cd is ubuntu 4.1003:09
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Kyralthe prof from the first semster came in hungover half the time03:09
Razor-XKyral: i'm trying to learn Calc I, at the moment03:09
funkyHatXTC, i'm using a DI-604, close enough?03:09
capireka, they couldn't help me in Gnome,  xorg.log http://pastebin.com/316670 , xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/31667303:09
ed1ti hate calc03:09
cafuegoKyral: That propbably means the students sucked ;-)03:09
Razor-Xed1t: i'm learning it for fun ;)03:09
ed1ti think nobody needs more then pre-calc03:10
Kyralmy College had Professor Deathmatch, complete with videos03:10
nalioths_dogCraZy675: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:10
XTCfunkyHat XTC, i'm using a DI-604, close enough? << i dunno... have you had troubles using msn... regular disconnects... ?03:10
seven_six_twowow...even alt+sysrq+rsieub won't work. thanks for the help, i'm going to use knoppix03:10
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Kyralhis entry was basically to the effect that he KNOWS he puts his kids to sleep03:10
Razor-Xed1t: and what happens if you choose to major in math itself? ;)03:10
naliothCraZy675: enable all your repos, and reload the apt and try again03:10
CraZy675nalioths_dog, ok03:10
Kyraland I feel asleep in every class :D03:10
rekacapi: k, to confirm, you want a res of 1152?03:10
ed1tRazor-X, well i had to take it...im a computer science major03:10
ed1tit was touch as hell03:10
capireka, yes03:10
Razor-XI'm good with computers, but i'll never major in CS03:10
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Razor-Xas far as I want, programming will always be a hobby03:11
Kyraled1t, where do you go?03:11
rekacapi: run this please: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange03:11
HrdwrBoBI did uni, wasn't my thing03:11
ed1tKyral, seton hall university03:11
HrdwrBoBquit and got a job03:11
KyralI go to Clarkson03:11
funkyHatXTC, disable SPI mode03:11
Razor-XI don't want to be pushed in some cubicle and said to me "Program or die, BITCH"03:11
HrdwrBoB.. doing what I wanted to do after uni anyway - sysadmin03:11
cafuegoRazor-X: You're assuming CS has something to do doing stuff with computers03:11
Razor-Xcafuego: programming, if i'm not mistaken03:11
ed1ti aced all the computer classes...but math classes03:11
ed1tooo man03:11
HrdwrBoBRazor-X: that's a personaly choice03:11
KyralI hate Math03:12
funkyHatTools, Misc on the web interface03:12
cafuegoRazor-X: Most CS people I know have issues using windows.03:12
Razor-Xmath is fun XD03:12
CraZy675sweet, I didn't even know you could use a GUI for your package manager03:12
cafuegoand don't get me started on IT teachers03:12
Razor-Xcafuego: I do too, but i'm not gonna go into CS03:12
KyralI was an Aerospace before I was CS03:12
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capireka, is that spelt right? It's comming up blank03:12
ed1tnext semester im taking operating systems class03:12
Razor-XComputational Theory and the like is cool, though03:12
Kyralbut I fell asleep in Physics more than I did in Calc 103:12
Razor-Xlike Dophantine Machines, and stuff03:12
rekacapi: means we can't autodetect your monitor rates.....what model do you ahve?03:13
XTCi have everything disabled there :p03:13
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Razor-Xback to more LaTeXing ;)03:13
KyralI tried to do Physics homework with friends, but I'd get smacked a lot for falling asleep03:13
capireka, eView 17f2, you want the specs?03:13
funkyHat"SPI Mode03:13
funkyHatWhen this feature is enabled, the router will record the packet information pass through the router like IP address, port address, ACK, SEQ number and so on. And the router will check every incoming packet to detect if this packet is valid."03:13
ed1ti never had to take physics in college03:13
Razor-Xwhat's the symbol for functional composition in LaTeX?03:13
XTCah... i don't have that options...03:13
rekacapi: if you have the h and v rates, yes....otherwise i can google for them.03:13
tritiumed1t, :o03:13
KyralI started as an Aerospace Major03:13
ed1ti took physics once in high school03:14
KyralChanged Majors the day of the Physics Midterm03:14
ed1tthats it03:14
Kyralgot out of it :D03:14
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tritiumRazor-X, \circ03:14
capireka, I've got the rates, however the builders site doesn't seem up. Google them.03:14
KyralI got an 11 on the first exam03:14
Razor-XHS Biology for me was a fall-asleep-and-get-A's class03:14
Razor-Xtritium: thanks03:14
Razor-X(last year, only, though)03:14
naliothi have a GED03:14
rekacapi: k, give me a sec03:14
Razor-Xlike, I had 52.8% of my homework done03:14
Razor-Xbut 160%+ on my exams03:15
Razor-Xand so it rounded to an A ;)03:15
KyralI got a .75 GPA for the first semester03:15
Kyralgot kicked out, begged to be let back in03:15
ed1teverybody gets a low GPA on their first semester03:15
ed1ti did too..03:15
Kyralpulled a 3.07 second semester03:15
funkyHatXTC, that setting did what you just described about msn03:15
Mobiusanyone know of any database design tools?03:16
rekacapi: hmm, your rates seem to be correct.03:16
ed1tMobius, like oracle?03:16
Mobiuslike planning tools =)03:16
Razor-Xplanning shmanning03:16
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Razor-Xdunno what's so good about plannig ;)03:17
Razor-Xbut, i'ld probably turn to my emacs calendar and Task List, if I needed to ``plan"03:17
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XTCi have read in forums that there's something about logging stuff in the router and getting flooded that makes it reboot... maybe there should be an options for this router to disactivate that thing....03:17
rekacapi: and you've restarted X to no effect?03:17
ed1ti wanna start doing oracle again...man i love dbms03:17
capireka, a plethora of times03:17
Razor-XI tried database crap, never liked it03:17
Razor-Xmy life is so unstructured, but I love overstrict OO in my programming03:18
Razor-Xreally weird that way03:18
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ed1tRazor-X, java?03:18
Razor-Xed1t: C#, or as i'm learning, Ruby03:18
Razor-XJava == t3h crap03:18
ed1tjava rocks!!03:18
bimberiMobius: I use an OSS DB design tool called "DBDesigner4" - http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/03:18
Razor-Xit's Garbage Collection is Garbage03:18
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Mobiusthanks bimberi =)03:19
rekacapi: and you've checked sys > prefs > screen resolution?03:19
bimberiMobius: mysql specific but still useful03:19
tritiumRazor-X, so did you try out texdoctk yet?  You'll lilke it.03:19
Razor-Xtritium: yeah, I did03:19
bimberiMobius: for other DBs03:19
capiyep, and used gconftool-2 to try to override it by hand.03:19
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MobiusI will be doing mysql bimberi03:19
ed1tRazor-X, better then C/C++03:19
tritiumRazor-X, you might find this useful: Mathematics/math fonts -> LaTeX symbol table03:20
bimberiMobius: could be the right one for you then :)03:20
Razor-Xtritium: most of it isn't there, though ;(03:20
Razor-Xdoes it come with tetex?03:20
tritiummost of what?03:20
Razor-Xthe files, I click on the topics, and the files they link to are missing03:20
tritiumtetex-doc, most likely03:20
Razor-Xlemme see if I have it installed03:20
Razor-Xed1t: I prefer C++ over Java03:21
naliothRazor-X: not C# over java?03:21
ed1ti had to do a project in C/C++ for one of my CS class....i didnt like it03:21
Razor-Xwow! 21.8 MB of docs ;)03:21
rekacapi: hmm....i'm afraid you've stumped me as well.  your xorg.conf file seems to be correct.03:21
Razor-Xnalioth: yes, yes03:21
Razor-Xafter all the programming i've done, I can only call LaTeX one word -- beautiful03:22
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rekacapi: what about the default depth?03:22
rekacapi: i noticed you only have the modes for 2403:22
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rekacapi: at on point in the wiki, it suggests lowering to 16 to see if that works03:23
reka*at one point03:23
capireka, reka, tried lowering it to 8(lowest it goes), still wouldn't work.03:24
Razor-Xhmmm... what's a nice, relatively unused greek letter?03:24
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Razor-Xreka: your flame has been extinguished! MUAHAHAHAHA03:26
Razor-Xok, ok, I just _had_ to do that XD03:26
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rekaanyone else have some ideas about how to fix res?03:26
tritiumreka, did you follow the wiki page?03:26
rekatritium: capi says he followed it 3 times. :)03:26
naliothreka: reconfigure?03:26
tritiumreka, ah, okay03:27
rekahere's his xorg.conf file, which seems to be OK: http://pastebin.com/31667303:27
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Razor-Xcapi: have you googled?03:28
rekacapi: one idea....the only page i looked at for your rates was an ubforums page....you might want to see if they really are the correct ones you should use.03:28
LokeDKI'm trying to play a midi file with playmidi, but it says playmidi: No playback device found.03:28
naliothreka: VESA will drive anything03:28
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rekanalioth: aha, good point03:29
rekacapi: there you go.. something to try there03:29
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capisorry, forgot the /j03:33
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rekacapi: heh.  did you try nalioth's suggestion?03:33
capireka, that was?03:33
rekause the VESA driver03:33
rekarather than the i810 one03:34
rekayou have currently03:34
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tritiumcapi, defintely worth a try.03:34
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rekacapi: so, iirc, you'd replace it with: Driver          "vesa"03:34
geneo93hey whats up with 3dfx cards not working03:35
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geneo93live cd works fine though03:35
tritiumyeah, but I'd suggest just doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and selecting the vesa driver03:35
capireka, trying03:35
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Antinomycan someone help me install mplayer?03:37
eric_#get windows03:38
capiresa, no-go, wouldn't even let me startx03:38
rekageneo93: what card?03:38
eric_are you on hoary?03:38
eric_Antimony, you on hoary?03:39
tritiumcapi, and you did follow this:03:39
Antinomyeric: yes03:39
ubotuI heard resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:39
eric_try just installing the codecs03:39
geneo93reka:  voodoo banshee03:39
Antinomyeric: I'm a n00b. I really don't know what that means.03:39
eric_1 sec03:39
Antinomyeric: right now I'm following the ubuntuguide03:39
capitritium, yes03:40
naliothAntinomy: are you back again?03:40
Antinomyeric: but it doesnt seem to work03:40
naliothAntinomy: stay away from the guide03:40
Antinomyyes nali, how are you?03:40
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tritiumcapi, and you've taken a good look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues?03:40
naliothAntinomy: it can lead you into trouble03:40
Antinomynalioth yeah it sucks.03:40
Antinomynalioth: trouble, but it doesnt work anyway!03:40
cyphasehey everyone03:41
nalioths_dogAntinomy: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:41
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capitritium, I'd be dumb and blind with the Xorg log, but I have some people who are helping me03:41
nalioths_dogAntinomy: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3803:41
cafuegothe HHGTTG is not to be stayed away from, surely!03:41
tritiumcapi, okay.03:41
naliothcapi: you tried the VESA driver, yet?03:41
AntinomyI added repositories by following the how to already03:41
capinalioth, yes, wouldn't allow me to startx03:41
naliothAntinomy: ok then go here backports.ubuntu.com  and add the two mirrormax lines03:41
eric_Are you just looking for wmv support and such03:42
naliothAntinomy: but only for use RIGHT NOW03:42
naliothAntinomy: when you're done with what i'm gonna show ya, you need to disable them03:42
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Antinomynalioth: that address doesnt work03:42
naliothcapi: the VESA driver wouldnt startx?03:42
ubotubackports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org. Backports are not advised for regular use, mainly because you might not be able to upgrade Ubuntu.03:42
LasseLanyone had luck with mythtv?03:42
capinalioth, correct, after putting VESA in I couldn't startx03:43
naliothcapi: that is strange03:43
LasseL""Starting MythTV server: mythbackendstart-stop-daemon: Unable to set initgroups() with gid 116"03:43
naliothwhat kind of display do you have?03:43
AntinomyIt might help me to understand what it is I'm actually doing.03:43
AntinomyIn other words, why am I taking these actions?03:43
capinalioth, eView 17f203:43
rekageneo93: i see.  it's possible that the liveCD opts to use a driver that includes 3d support for your card, while the default install one doesn't.03:44
naliothAntinomy: the two repos you are enabling are not easily found due to licencing/versioning reasons03:44
naliothcapi: i have no clue, is it a crt or lcd?03:44
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Antinomynalioth: ok03:44
capinalioth, crt03:44
AntinomyI just got to the backports page on the guide03:44
naliothAntinomy: and using them on a regular basis can cause your machine to not be upgreadeable03:44
geneo93reka:  mandrake handles it just fine03:44
naliothcapi: that is very strange, does the hardware work elsewhere/03:45
capinalioth, if you mean Windoze, yes03:45
Antinomywhy? because of technological issues, or the community wont let me upgrade?03:45
SDFH_Linuxhas breezy been released as final yet?03:45
geneo93reka:  i tried warty and hoary both ame results03:45
tritiumcapi, can I please see your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin?03:45
naliothSDFH_Linux: in october03:46
sproingieSDFH_Linux: no.  when it is, there will be much hullaballoo on ubuntu.com03:46
capitrituirm, http://pastebin.com/31667003:46
naliothcapi: how bout an ubuntu liveCD?03:46
tritiumLasseL, I setup mythtv quite some time ago.  My memory is rather hazy on the details.03:46
SDFH_Linuxhow stable is the beta breezy?03:46
sproingieSDFH_Linux: it is not03:46
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rekageneo93: you probably have to install the driver for your card then.03:47
IIIEars"Windoze" - makes us linux users seem biased. (Psst, We are tho. - lol)03:47
sproingieno, just makes 'em seem stupid03:47
LasseLtritium, remember if you had to do any "tricks" about mysql security to make it work03:47
sproingiethat and M$03:47
geneo93mine has nvidia my sons is voodoo03:47
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sproingieeven dumber03:48
IIIEars"The Redmond OS"?03:48
KyralThe OS that Satan made?03:48
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tritiumLasseL, no, that I know I did not have to do.03:48
rekageneo93: for the nvidia machine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:48
sproingiegetting into "contemptible" now03:48
aruKyral:  didn't make an OS03:48
geneo93reka:  mine has driver working fine03:48
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sproingiebesides, everyone knows satan made bsd03:49
tritiumplease guys, no OS wars03:49
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IIIEarsMakes me laugh having to enable Active-X scripting to get an update.03:49
vaderI am just learning, no war from me lol03:49
capitritium, what about ubuntu-live>?03:49
qt2is there a simple way to mimic the windows printscreen function?03:49
tritiumcapi, what about it?03:49
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vaderbtw vader is actually kevin03:50
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capinaolith, what about ubuntu-live>?03:50
tankisup kevin03:50
geneo93tanki:  i take you like living in the past03:50
vaderlivin learnin03:50
capitritium, sorry that was naolith03:50
tritiumah, no problem :)03:50
capinalioth, what about ubuntu-live>?03:50
rekageneo93: this might be what you're looking for: apt-cache show xlibmesa-dri03:50
tankino but seriously, everyone take a moment of silence because ibm announced os/2 warp is dead03:51
robotgeekfinally, sorted my wireless connection out...disabled the network-manager applet03:51
HrdwrBoBtanki: oh no, woe is me03:51
HrdwrBoBI'll have to stop using it...03:51
IIIEarsqt2 - "the prt-scr button on your keyboard doesn't work the same way?03:51
naliothtanki: the moment of silence should be spent wishing that big blue open sources it03:51
overladehello all , has someone succed to install Kguitar in gnome plz ?03:51
robotgeeknalioth: that was all over /.03:51
naliothcapi: yes, does ubuntu liveCD work your hardware?03:51
geneo93reka:  he's going to boot to ubuntu now03:52
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vadertanki: I am getting alaugh out of how much people could learn just by sitting here watching the text03:52
IIIEarsqt2 - What kind of screen shot do you need?03:52
overladehow install java runtime :( ?03:52
naliothvader: the longer you lurk, the more you'll learn03:52
capinalioth, no it just gives 64003:52
qt2...it does now... :o03:52
vaderI lurk a LOT lol03:52
naliothcapi: but it displays, right?03:52
otepoverlade what the prob with it?03:52
capinalioth, yes it displays, just at default rates03:53
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uboturumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.03:53
naliothcapi: well it WONT display from the HD isntalled ubuntu, right?03:53
PurpleBluDoes ubuntu come with KDE?03:53
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vadermine is added lol, did that the other day03:53
naliothPurpleBlu: you can install it03:53
PurpleBluyes. I would love KDE03:53
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rekaPurpleBlu: default DE is gnome, but you can install KDE later03:53
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vaderkubuntu does03:53
PurpleBlui just installed, all there is GNOME03:53
robotgeekdoes that java include ppc, i guess not!03:53
capinalioth, it displays in an installed version, just not the right resolution03:54
overladeotep, i need install it because i have problem with a program who use it03:54
anne_anyone here get an original airport card to work under ubuntu?03:54
tritiumPurpleBlu, kde is also available03:54
naliothrobotgeek: ppc users (like me) have to use wiki.ubuntu.com//JavaPPC03:54
rekaPurpleBlu: install kubuntu-desktop for KDE03:54
naliothanne_: yes03:54
IIIEarsPurpleBlu - open synaptic and search kubuntu-desktop D/L and install03:54
robotgeeki know,i just tht ubotu shud mention that03:54
vadernot airport; got d-link dwl-g65003:54
naliothanne_: my airport card works out of the box03:54
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otepoverlade: have you gone here -> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/jre/install-linux.html03:54
robotgeekvader: mac03:54
naliothotep: its differnt in ubuntu03:55
anne_nalioth: is it the 64-bit of the 128-bit?03:55
PurpleBlusynaptic app or someting from the console?03:55
otepwha? oh im using kubuntu03:55
tritiumeither way, PurpleBlu03:55
naliothanne_: my airport is the original 'b' model in a G3 ibook03:55
PurpleBlulooking for it in the applications menu...03:55
IIIEarsPurpleBlu - Synaptic is simplest. but yes apt-get kubuntu-desktop works also03:55
rekasys > admin >synaptic03:55
naliothanne_: what mac do you have?03:55
anne_nalioth: there was a 64-bit WEP and a 128-bit WEP03:56
robotgeeki checked out enlightenment, it seemed *very* nice, eye-candy wise :)03:56
anne_nalioth: G3 ibook (900)03:56
aruI love it when you guys offer the gooey way :)03:56
overladeotep, i cant see ubuntu , how i do ? :( i transform the rpm in .deb ?03:56
PurpleBluin Synaptic now.   thanks reka03:56
naliothanne_: lots of users have problems with wep and wpa, not just on airport cards03:56
robotgeekanne_: do u know which card you have? the old airport or the new airport express?03:56
vadernalioth: I guess I got luck then hu?03:56
naliothanne_: does that have airport? i thought they switched at the 800mhz models to airport extreme03:56
Heart_2what means "un  java-browser-plugin...." (dpkg -l "*java*")03:57
naliothvader: what?03:57
anne_nalioth: no... there were two airport 802.11B.... NOT the original and extreme, but 2 original and 1 extreme03:57
rekaoverlade: alien <rpm file> to convert it to .deb03:57
anne_nalioth: not for the ibook.  that was at the G4 edition03:57
naliothanne_: i'm confused now03:57
PurpleBluOkay where would KDE fall in the listing which group?  NOt seeing a desktop group.03:57
vadernever mind... vader falling into the background03:57
overladereka, thanks :)03:57
robotgeekanne_,nalioth the old airport B were based on orinoco, the new ones on broadcom03:57
PurpleBlufound it03:57
naliothrobotgeek: yes i know this03:58
anne_nalioth: there was the 64-bit original airport cards and then there was a 128-bit airport card03:58
naliothrobotgeek: i'm tryin to find out what anne has03:58
robotgeeknalioth: sorry, my bad03:58
naliothanne_: i have no clue03:58
IIIEarsPurpleBlu - Check out the "Settings" "Repositories" function at the top of Synaptic. adding a repository without any text editing. choose from 16,000+ apps more added everyday03:58
calcanne_: orinoco?03:58
robotgeekanne_: was does lspci say?03:58
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calcsounds like orinoco silver and gold cards03:58
nalioththe original airport uses pcmcia interface and the apx uses mini-pci03:58
calcbroadcom is crap :(03:58
rekaPurpleBlu: there's a search facility. :)03:59
tritiumcapi, I'm not finding much in your Xorg.0.log :(03:59
robotgeekbroadcom is the sux0rs!03:59
naliothcalc: original airport cards work out of the box under ubuntu03:59
anne_robotgeek, it's not in there, but modprobing aiport does add an eth103:59
calcnalioth: but broadcoms don't03:59
anne_nalioth: mine didn't.  and yes it did work under OSX03:59
naliothcalc:  correct03:59
robotgeekanne_: is it a B or a G?03:59
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naliothanne_: i think you have an APX04:00
anne_I swear to you I don't04:00
calci ripped the broadcom in my amd64 out and put an intel 2915abg in place of it04:00
robotgeekanne_: then i think u have an orinoco04:00
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anne_yes, I do.  I can't seem to connect to my network though04:00
naliothcapi: copy your xorg.conf from the liveCD session04:00
robotgeekanne_: okay..workable.04:01
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robotgeekanne_: do u use WEP?04:01
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robotgeekokay...can u check your 'dmesg' output and tell me the last 4/5 lines?04:01
robotgeekor paste the whole thing in pastebin04:02
uboturumour has it, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood04:02
Antinomynalioth: I got the backports mirror site up....if you're still there04:02
anne_airport: Airport at physical address 8003000004:03
anne_eth1: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware version 4.1604:03
anne_WAIT.  It looks like it's in ad-hoc mode04:04
anne_even though iwconfig says it's in managed04:04
robotgeekanne_: :)04:04
anne_How do I change it?04:04
naliothAntinomy: i'm here04:04
lupus1010what is best connection == NULL or !connection04:05
naliothAntinomy: if you've reloaded your apt-get, you can install w32codecs now04:05
robotgeekanne_: moment04:05
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robotgeekiwconfig ra0 mode Managed04:05
robotgeeketh1 instead of ra004:05
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Antinomynalioth: reloaded? confused.04:06
robotgeekanne_: let's take this in a separate window?04:06
geneo91reka:  it says its out of sync04:07
vadertanki: you got awful quiet04:07
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naliothAntinomy: in synaptic, click the 'reload' button in the top left04:08
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Antinomynalioth: done04:08
naliothAntinomy: so search for "w32"04:08
rekageneo91: what says that?04:08
Antinomyi checked w32 codecs - already installed04:08
ubotujava is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.04:08
geneo91when it tries to startx reka04:09
naliothAntinomy: so if you dont need anything else at the moment, uncheck the boxes next to those mirrormax URLs in your repositories box04:09
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geneo91its an old gateway ev700 monitor reka04:10
Antinomynalioth: I think I missed a step. I'm sorry...I don't know what mirrormax URLs are...04:10
rekageneo91: yeah, sounds like you need to run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:10
Antinomynalioth: oh i see04:10
naliothAntinomy: the two backports lines you put in should be disabled now (if they're not, please disable them)04:10
geneo91reka:  i've done that many times04:11
Antinomynalioth: in preferences>repositories, the last entry is mirrormax.net/hoary-extras. uncheck?04:11
naliothgeneo91: then choose VESA as your driver04:11
naliothAntinomy: yes, please04:11
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rekanalioth: he's trying to get 3d support for a voodoo banshee.04:12
Antinomynalioth: done04:12
geneo91k i'll try that and see what happens reka04:12
elmagozizouHow do I play WMA in xmms?04:12
naliothAntinomy: and the other mirromax line, also04:12
vadersee you all later; as in tomorrow, I am tired for once so have a great night and catch you all on the flip side04:12
rekanalioth: i told him to install xlibmesa-dri04:12
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elmagozizouI can play all but my WMA songs dont even add to the list04:12
naliothreka: vesa will make a dead dog display if its gota vga input04:12
Antinomynalioth: there was only one!04:12
flodinecan someone tell me the command to take screenshots04:13
naliothAntinomy: ok04:13
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elmagozizouHow do I play WMA in xmms?04:13
elmagozizouI can play all but my WMA songs dont even add to the list04:13
tritiumflodine, in gnome, hit the Prnt Scrn button04:13
naliothAntinomy: nothin in the list that says "backports"04:13
IIIEarsflodien - Doesn't the prt-scr button on your keyboard do what you want it to do?04:13
nalioths_dogelmagozizou: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.04:13
flodineim not in gnome04:13
Antinomynalioth: there was only one there. I disabled it04:14
Rockett17i believe he wants the import window root thing.. i forget the syntax04:14
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Antinomynalioth: btw, I have no idea how it got there.04:14
elmagozizounalioth, sorry is just to make shure the people read it...you know is a lot of people writing here04:15
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naliothAntinomy: ok thats weird04:17
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elianyone here used synergy?04:17
gp_aaron|upstairyou can install ubuntu without gnome correct?04:17
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gp_aaron|upstaireli I have04:18
naliothgp_aaron|upstair: sure, choose server install04:18
slinkycan anyone advise on using a new fontset in ubuntu? maybe a link to a good walkthrough?04:18
gp_aaron|upstairnalioth, now does that still install xorg?04:18
Madpilotevening, all... how do I create a .zip file in Ubuntu that will be openable in a WinXP machine?04:18
ubotuhmm... fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto04:18
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naliothgp_aaron|upstair: nope, it installs a CLI only system04:18
Madpilotslinky: see the URL that ubotu just posted04:19
slinkyubotu: great...ty....will check04:19
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, slinky04:19
gp_aaron|upstairnalioth, ok what I want is xorg and xfce and ob3 but not gnome04:19
Madpilotslinky: ubotu is really a bot. uBOTu...04:19
IIIEarsubotu are you human? - ;)04:19
ubotuIIIEars: Are you smoking crack?04:19
CarlFKway OT, but not sure where to go: OO for win, how do I tell it to associate itself with .doc after MSword took it over?04:19
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sn0nHello all04:19
MadpilotIIIEars :)04:19
slinkywhat are you doing obotu?04:19
naliothgp_aaron|upstair: then from the server install, you can install xfce and apt should give you xorg with that04:19
axis^bblis there a wiki on wiki's04:19
rekaelmagozizou: xmms doesn't have WMA support by default.  here's a very rough guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21414.html04:20
gp_aaron|upstairok thanks nalioth04:20
MadpilotCarlFK: you mean inside Windows?04:20
axis^bblelmagozizou: just delete the wmas buddy ;)04:20
CarlFKMadpilot - correct04:20
naliothCarlFK: right click in explorer, click "open with" and check the "always open with" box04:20
gp_aaron|upstairi didn't know if gnome-desktop was rooted into xorg or not04:20
gp_aaron|upstairthe way it is into openoffice04:20
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gp_aaron|upstairand other packages04:20
geneo91reka:  it has warty installed now04:21
compubombanyone have any experience compiling e17 on ubuntu from cvs ?04:21
MadpilotCarlFK: run OOo's install program again, pick the "Repair Install" option. it'll display the option to take over the Office docs again04:21
CarlFKnalioth - I was hoping there was an OO dialog so I wouldn't have to find all the extenzions and apps, which I think ends up being well ofer 5004:21
ColonelKernelsome pretty bizarre names, all sound like some kina std04:21
CarlFKMadpilot - good plan.  thanks04:21
ColonelKernelor ways to refer to prostitutes04:21
sn0nok, i have a question.. what is the version number of warty ? and whats the one for hoary ?   (from what i read, they are.. backwards?)04:21
axis^bblColonelKernel, totally04:21
Antinomynalioths_dog: should I install the other one?04:21
axis^bblColonelKernel, : that was my consensus as well04:22
tritiumsn0n, warty: 4.10, hoary: 5.0404:22
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rekageneo91: you just installed now?04:22
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axis^bblsounds like a bunch of x-girlfriends to me04:22
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sn0ntritium, yeah, isnt that backwards ? or am i not understanding normal versioning numbers04:22
ColonelKernelyep, prob members of the godfathers stable04:22
Madpilotcan someone tell me how to create .zip files in Ubuntu? there doesn't seem to be anything in the wiki...04:22
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tritiumsn0n, no, it's right.  the first number represents the year, and the second the month in which the release was made.04:22
geneo91i'm going to insall kubuntu now reka04:22
stan-amhey fellas04:23
axis^bbli'm using kubuntu out here in the garage :)04:23
naliothAntinomy: those two repos are not really advised for general use04:23
elmagozizouaxis^bbl, yeah good choise...04:23
rekageneo91: er, ok04:23
axis^bblrunning ubuntu inside on the server right now, untill i get FREEBSD up04:23
Antinomyok. I'm packing it in.04:23
Antinomythis is too complicated.04:23
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ubotuIIIEars: I don't know, could you explain it?04:23
stan-amis there a way to add a program to the synaptic repository list???04:23
naliothAntinomy: we're here 24/704:23
Antinomyscore one for windows04:23
axis^bblAntinomy, : what's too complicated04:23
sn0nooo.. 4.1004:23
concept10Madpilot, use archive mabafer04:23
sn0ni thought it was 5.1004:23
sn0nmy bad04:23
Madpilotconcept10: archive what?04:23
stan-amis there a way to add a program to the synaptic repository list???04:24
Antinomyjust want to play the media I play on windows on ubuntu too04:24
concept10Madpilot, sorry about that arhive manager04:24
sn0nuse command line zip  :-p  and man zip04:24
nickrudMadpilot, zip and unzip are in main, i think04:24
jasoncohenAntinomy, can you play it in rhythmbox?04:24
stan-amis there a way to add a program to the synaptic repository list???04:24
naliothAntinomy: you havent asked anything about that04:24
sn0nim slowly learning that man is my friend04:24
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concept10Madpilot, applications, accesories > archive manager04:24
sn0ni never used it much til about a month ago04:24
jasoncohenstan-am, what do you mean? anything installed will show up in synaptic as installed04:25
sn0nthere is sooooo much that can be learned in man04:25
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jasoncohenany .deb installed04:25
CarlFKwhoever wanted wiki help: http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?WelcomeVisitors04:25
rekaMadpilot: i think if you just do 'create archive' through nautlus, and set the extension to zip, it will do it for you.04:25
elmagozizouMy mplayer keep showing me a message averytime I play somethig...the message is about the fonts path...I all ready download the mplayer fonts, and even try reinstaling all off mplayer but doesnt work...any help?04:25
Madpilotconcept10: thnx, found that. I prefer a GUI to the CLI; I know that's un-Linux-ish of me...04:25
sn0nelmagozizou, sure, use Muine ;-)04:25
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sn0nsorry, my preferences are showing thru  :-X04:25
elmagozizousn0n, whats that?04:26
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stan-amjasoncohen: i downloaded amsn and after i did the tar -zxvf *.tar.gz i dont know what else to do with it04:26
sn0nits the mono based music player04:26
axis^bblAntinomy: check your private messages04:26
jasoncohenstan-am, why would you do that- just sudo apt-get install amsn04:27
ubuntuanyone know what the password is for this ubuntu install for root.....04:27
jasoncohenstan-am, search for amsn in synaptic04:27
sn0nstan-am, im guessing running           ./configure && make ** make install   ;-)04:27
jasoncohenstan-am, you were installing from source04:27
Agrajagthere is no root password04:27
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ubotuit has been said that sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:27
ubuntusu doesnt work??04:27
Madpilotreka: where's the create archive dialog in Naut? and is there a way to get 'create archive' as a right-click-menu option like WinZip in XP does?04:27
Agrajaguse sudo04:27
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sn0nbut then again.. config make makeinstall requires ALOT of dev packages04:27
ubuntudoesnt work04:27
jasoncohenstan-am, you need universe enabled. then you can install amsn from synaptic04:27
stan-amjasoncohen: should i do that inside a specific directory?04:27
jasoncohenstan-am, huh?04:27
Agrajagwhat doesn't work, sudo?04:27
sn0nsudo works04:28
alemanhey set me right on theis one please04:28
sn0nsudo works perfect04:28
rekaMadpilot: exactly.  right click file/folder > create archive..04:28
Agrajagread what the bot said04:28
ubuntufuck this ...going back to fedora04:28
tritiumubuntu, yes it does.  Use your user's passowrd04:28
ubotusudo is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:28
Agrajagwhat an idiot04:28
CarlFKsn0n you know about apt-get install build-essential ?04:28
sn0nhe just wanted to bitch04:28
jasoncohenstan-am, do you have the universe repository enabled? if so, just start synaptic, search for amsn and install04:28
alemancan I use debian repositories w/ubuntu just like that?04:28
Agrajaghe can HAVE fedora04:28
sn0nCarlFK, there is one of those? lol. i just did a search for dev in name04:28
jasoncohenaleman, no - very bad idea04:28
sn0nand installed all the ones i knew i needed04:28
stan-amjasoncohen: no i dont04:29
alemanok, thats all I needed04:29
CarlFKsn0n - glad I asked.  now I can eat dinner04:29
Madpilotreka: thnx, found it. it doesn't work in the left-hand Naut panel the way I was expecting it to...04:29
axis^bblAntinomy: http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt    - really good guide to setting up media04:29
jasoncohenAntinomy, gstreamer-ffmpeg might solve your problems from hoary-extras04:29
stan-amim doin a google for that jasoncohen04:29
jasoncohenAntinomy, have you tried playing your wma songs in rhythmbox?04:29
jasoncohenstan-am, a google search for what?04:29
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jasoncohenstan-am, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:30
axis^bblwon't mplayer04:30
stan-amhow to enable universe04:30
axis^bblplay wmas04:30
stan-amthnx dude04:30
jasoncohenstan-am, follow the instructions for synaptic...there are screenshots + instructions04:30
axis^bblAntinomy: go to http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt and install mplayer04:30
sn0nadd universe to the names in synap04:30
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nalioths_dogstan-am: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:30
sn0ni love all these stupid questions04:30
stan-amgotcha guys04:31
jasoncohenum, don't use ubuntuguide04:31
jasoncohenhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto gives better instructions - with explanation04:31
jasoncohenstan-am, after you add universe and reload, search for amsn04:31
jasoncohenand install it04:31
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axis^bblwhat's the name of the file browser ubuntu uses?04:31
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jasoncohenstan-am, you were installing from source which you generally shouldn't do unless you have a need to - if it's not packaged by ubuntu04:31
jasoncohenaxis^bbl, nautilus is gnome's default file browser04:32
stan-amdamn, id luv 2 know how to do it from console04:32
axis^bblok thx.. but  .. how on earth do i change my folder from dissapearing when i open a new one04:32
stan-amdamn windows04:32
sn0nstan-am, apt-get install joe04:32
jasoncohenstan-am, apt-get install amsn04:32
axis^bblstan-am, what do you want to do from console04:32
axis^bblapt-get install xmms04:32
jasoncohensn0n, in this case sudo apt-get install amsn04:32
Agrajagaxis^bbl: oh, you'll have to change some stuff in gconf04:33
axis^bbloh yah04:33
axis^bblAgrajag, : gconf04:33
tritiumaxis^bbl, Edit->Preferences->Behavior->Always open in browser windows04:33
Agrajagstart up gconf-editor04:33
sn0nstan-am, joe /etc/apt/sources.conf04:33
stan-amapt-get is the same thing than installing from synaptic after enabling universe?04:33
axis^bbltritium: thank you so much04:33
otepjasoncohen: how frequent were the packages in the repositories updated?04:33
axis^bbland you too Agrajag04:33
tritiumdon't even need gconf-editor04:33
sn0n.list sorry04:33
axis^bblthats lovely04:33
axis^bblthat'[s what i like04:33
axis^bblless clutter04:33
Agrajagtritium: oh, did they put it in the prefs now?04:33
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tritiumAgrajag, yep :)04:33
AgrajagI never bothered to change it, I like spacial04:33
sn0nstan-am, in the lines with deb http bla bla bla, add universe at the end04:33
Agrajager, spatial04:33
axis^bblUnlike my messages .. sorry bout that trit .. lol.. here.. i was able to do it this time tho04:34
sn0nhit Ctrl + K + D04:34
sn0nthen Ctrl + C04:34
jasoncohenotep, in what repositories? hoary is a stable distribution so it only receives security and critical bug fixes04:34
stan-amyeah i already added universe and im using amsn now04:34
sn0nstan-am, then do a apt-get update04:34
axis^bblAgrajag, : Spatial, what is that ?04:34
jasoncohenotep, breey, which is the development (unstable) release is constantly upgraded04:34
sn0ni think hes not listening. LoL04:34
sn0ni love spatial04:34
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sn0nbut not how ubuntu does it04:35
stan-amwhats that do sn0n?04:35
sn0ni know i can Shift Click04:35
sn0nbut still04:35
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Agrajagyou know, I'm not seeing an option in nautilus to change that04:35
AgrajagI know it's in gconf04:35
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tritiumAgrajag, Edit->Preferences->Behavior ?04:35
tritiumIt's a check box "Always open in browser windows"04:36
sn0nAgrajag, cuz its a ubuntu hack04:36
Agrajagthis is on hoary, I don't use breezy so if it's a new addition I won't see it04:36
Agrajagtritium: uh, that's not the same thing04:36
tritiumAgrajag, this is hoary04:36
axis^bblAgrajag,  I was gonna ask you if it's updated.. but it should be hoary04:36
Agrajaga browser window is a different view04:36
tritiumAgrajag, it's not spatial04:37
axis^bblso konqueror automatically opens up folders in the main window04:37
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axis^bblAgrajag, : just open the folder04:37
Agrajagoh, that's not what he asked though, he just wanted it to not close the parent folder04:37
axis^bbloh it's still going to do that04:37
jasoncohenwho doesn't ubuntu enable encryption for vino by default?04:37
sn0nAgrajag, its some silly ubuntu hack that i dont know how to change. its some sourcecode change, not a gui thing04:37
axis^bblAgrajag, : that is what i'm talkin about04:37
Agrajagright, to change that you need to go into gconf-editor04:37
naliothdoes ubuntu support bluetooth?04:37
orbordeYou are now looking at a man who has successfully configured his Ubuntu box to get on the internet through a proxy.04:37
axis^bblalthough they were opening up new folders too which was a pain04:38
Agrajagsn0n: it's easy to change04:38
sn0nhow ?04:38
Agrajaganyone who wants to know how to use spatial nautilus while not closing parent folders:04:38
Agrajagopen a terminal, run "gconf-editor"04:38
rekaorborde: congrats :)04:38
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Agrajaggo to /apps/nautilus/preferences04:38
axis^bblrobotgeek,  !!!!04:38
axis^bblyou made it04:39
Agrajagfind the checkbox next to "no_ubuntu_spatial"04:39
Agrajagcheck it, and close gconf-editor04:39
robotgeekaxis^bbl: :)04:39
axis^bblrobotgeek,  Hoora04:39
axis^bblor in this case, Hoar-ah!04:39
robotgeekstupid wireless!04:39
IIIEarsubotu desktops is ""Ubuntu offers Gnome (default) "gnome-desktop"  or KDE "kubuntu-deskop" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE?highlight=%28kde%29, Here are some other choices. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ http://www.plig.org/xwinman/""04:39
ubotuokay, IIIEars04:39
Agrajagnow the shift-click thing will be reversed, if you do want to close the parent hold shift when opening a folder04:39
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axis^bblAgrajag, : i'm following04:39
Agrajagso that's all you need to do04:39
AntinomyOk, can anyone help me install apps so that I can see all the media I see in windows?04:39
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robotgeekaxis^bbl: i am at home though, still havent found a free shell04:40
axis^bblAgrajag: leet man .. thx04:40
Agrajagjust check that box and it will be done, you don't have to restart anything because gconf is awesome like that04:40
robotgeekaxis^bbl: "applied" for a shell acount though04:40
axis^bblrobotgeek,  i'll work on that tonight04:40
naliothAntinomy: unfortunately, bill gates doesnt want you to see some wmv9 and 10 media04:40
sn0nAgrajag, thnx alot!!!!!04:40
axis^bblrobotgeek, ; yah that's what you'll have to do now04:40
Antinomyok, how about mpg and real?04:40
axis^bblrobotgeek, : they used to be free, walk in go on irc.. but too many script kiddies ruined that04:40
naliothAntinomy: but i can help you with all else04:40
sn0nAgrajag i read that that was a silly source code hack that couldnt be changed.. stupid google04:40
nalioths_dogAntinomy: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support04:41
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axis^bblAgrajag,  wikkid04:41
Antinomyok man, you've been super helpful so far04:41
robotgeekrobotgeek: i know, i was reading.04:41
sn0nunixshell.com is cheap04:41
sn0nnot free04:41
sn0nbut cheap04:41
axis^bblyou say you're at home, you're running ubuntu there?!04:41
IIIEarssn0n - sounds good - nice tip04:41
axis^bblrobotgeek,  Are you running ubuntu at home, and you can't use the computers at school?!04:41
sn0nits a VPS04:42
sn0nfull root, bla bla bla04:42
sn0nand HELLA bandwidth for the price04:42
robotgeekrobotgeek: actually on my laptop, the only machine i have.04:42
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axis^bblrobotgeek,  ohh ok .. :)04:42
axis^bblrobotgeek:  man.. go find a pentium 100mhz system out of the garbage .. and use that at home for irc04:43
robotgeekaxis^bbl: not good, but all it means is i don't irc at school04:43
sn0naxis^bbl, LoL04:43
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axis^bblthat's what i did04:43
axis^bbli was like.. hey that looks like a pentium04:43
sn0nremote X on it04:43
robotgeekaxis^bbl: true, maybe a 386 would work...my prof offered me one.04:43
sn0nand its just fine04:43
axis^bblrobotgeek,  386.. hmm.04:43
axis^bblrobotgeek,  maybe freebsd or something, if you're savvy at terminal04:44
axis^bblwith* terminal04:44
robotgeekrobotgeek: yeah, i am on a term right now :)04:44
axis^bblanybody have a really sweet guide to VM ?04:44
sn0nterminal is a way of life ;-)04:44
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sn0naxis^bbl, define VM ?04:44
axis^bblmy god typo .. VI04:45
axis^bblgot vmware on my mind04:45
axis^bblyah? that an ap04:45
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sn0ni believe so04:45
axis^bbli can't type..  geez. i need to make some coffee.. brb04:45
axis^bblsn0n,  sweet, i will def check it out04:45
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sn0nits there04:45
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robotgeekaxis^bbl: i spend half of my time reading vim manuals!04:45
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axis^bbli'm getting so sick of powerless text editors04:46
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sn0ni like joe04:46
sn0nbut im never stuck on a non-X enabled box.. so gedit works for me04:46
axis^bblthats what i used on freebsd.. i've been using pico on ubuntu :X04:46
ahvargasaxis^bbl:use emacs04:46
sn0newwww to emacs04:46
sn0nif i wanted a full blown OS text editor, id use windows04:46
axis^bbli said eww emacs and scrunched up my nose before sn0n  even said that04:46
robotgeekaxis^bbl: vimtutor is a good introduction04:46
cyphaseanyone have any ideas for a good movie to rent?04:47
axis^bblrobotgeek,  awesome04:47
axis^bblwhat is emacs tho ..  gui vi?04:47
sn0nemacs is a OS that wraps a text editor04:48
axis^bblaxis^bbl i said eww emacs and scrunched up my nose before sn0n  even said that04:48
naliothaxis^bbl: hold your tongue! heh heh04:48
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axis^bbli meant to say  remove "said eww"04:48
naliothaxis^bbl: emacs and vi have very ardent users04:48
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nalioththey will fight to the death at any slight04:48
sn0ni say fuck em both, and use a good GUI editor  ;-)04:48
axis^bblso i meant to say "i scrunched my nose when emacs was said"04:48
axis^bblnalioth: lol04:48
axis^bblnalioth, : will it be a good show like spock vs kirk?04:49
axis^bblbrbbrbr ahhhh brrr ahhhhhh04:49
sn0nnothings better then something i can use a mouse to get around on  ;-)04:49
axis^bblbrbrbrbr ahhhhh brbr ahhhhhh04:49
axis^bbli like the shift-cursor too much04:49
axis^bbli use the mouse when i'm lazy and surfing04:49
travelleris there an update source that will bring my packages to more recent versions?04:49
robotgeeki would emacs if i had 4 hands, but i dont!04:49
jasoncohentraveller, what are you trying to upgrade?04:50
axis^bbltraveller: edit /etc/apt/sources.conf   uncomment everything, "apt-get update"04:50
sn0nlol robot04:50
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abarbacciahey- can someone help me get my rio carbon supported in ubuntu? ive heard it being done in breezy but nothin with hoary04:50
travellerjasoncohen: basically everything...firefox is only 1.0.2, gaim is only 1.1.404:50
axis^bbltraveller, " apt-get install upgrade-dist04:50
jasoncohenaxis^bbl, that won't allow him to upgrade. that'll just give him more repositories04:50
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jasoncohentraveller, yeah, but you have a patched version of firefox up to 10.4 security updates and gaim is patched through 1.3.104:50
axis^bbljasoncohen, : apt-get upgrade-dist ?04:51
jasoncohenapt-get dist-upgrade actually is the command04:51
axis^bblthats how you updae, rite?04:51
axis^bbli knew if i spit out some half info, someone would jump in to save him04:51
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jasoncohenyou shouldn't give people advise if you don't know what you're talking about. that command doesn't upgrade the distribution unless you change sources.list04:51
travellerjasoncohen: you mean gaim 1.1.4 is actually 1.3.1? and firefox is 1.0.4?04:51
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axis^bbljasoncohen, : advice? ok04:52
_franktraveller: as far as security goes, yeah04:52
jasoncohentraveller, no- it's 1.1.4 with security patches from later versions and 1.0.2 with security patches from later versions04:52
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axis^bbli was just .. adding vice04:52
travellerjasoncohen: hm...ok04:52
sn0nwait.. what gets me the new firefox and gaim ?04:52
sn0napt-get install upgrade-dist04:52
jasoncohenaxis^bbl, and no one should be upgrading to breezy yet. it's broken. xorg doesn't work04:52
sn0nim on hoary04:52
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sn0nand have everythign updated04:52
_franktraveller you can get updated versions of programs through backports04:52
sn0nand gaim is still old as shit04:52
sn0nand firefox is like 1.0.204:52
jasoncohentraveller, https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/usn/errorreferencefolder_view04:52
traveller_frank: is that a good thing to do?04:52
tritiumsn0n, with 1.0.4 security patches04:52
ubotuFirefox on warty is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"04:52
sn0nok ;-)04:53
axis^bbli want to get/make a plugin for gaim.. "what i'm listening too .."04:53
robotgeekaxis^bbl: gaim-xmms exists, and works :)04:53
jasoncohenthat's not true about warty- only about hoary04:53
sn0naxis^bbl, there is a perl framework i think. gaim.sf.net04:53
_franktraveller: It's reasonably tested. The packages are made for ubuntu. But still you should only use if you need it04:53
axis^bblrobotgeek,  oh my04:53
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jasoncohenwarty didn't get security updates from 1.0.404:53
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vladuz976hi does anybody know if there is a japanese ubuntu channel?04:54
ahvargasdoes anyone knows about xdiv in ubuntu04:54
traveller_frank: ok, i'll have a look at what's inside, thanks04:54
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Ka234are their any repositories that have firefox/thunderbird 1.0.6?04:54
gp_aaron|upstairis there lighttpd in the repo04:54
naliothvladuz976: #ubuntu-jp04:55
jasoncohenKa234, not yet, if you really need it you can just install it from mozilla's site04:55
naliothKa234: those are VERY new04:55
jasoncohenit's easy to install04:55
jasoncohen1.0.6 came out today04:55
vladuz976nalioth: i don't think that exists. just tried04:55
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Ka234thank you04:55
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naliothvladuz976: then no, there is not one04:55
robotgeekKa234: 1.0.6 is not released yet!04:55
jasoncohenyes it is04:55
_frankits just much better to always use .deb packages when possible though04:56
jasoncohenrobotgeek, lol - i'm running 1.0.6!!04:56
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jasoncohenKa234, wait until 1.0.6 is backported to hoary-backports or wait for the fixes from 1.0.5 to be backported to 1.0.2 in hoary-security04:56
robotgeeki dint know 1.0.6 was out.sorry04:56
naliothrobotgeek: yes, its smokin hot new04:57
axis^bblmmm  ;.. xmms04:57
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vladuz976does anybody know how long it will take for 1.0.6 to come to backports05:00
sn0n19273 days05:00
Antinomycan anyone help me with a sunbird install?05:00
enumanyone use atiixp sound drivers?05:00
axis^bbl26hr, 4 mins 28 seconds 21 nanoseconds remain05:01
sn0nAntinomy, i belive it comes with a linux precompiled self installer05:01
naliothAntinomy: iirc, sunbird requires compiling05:01
enumI seem to get sound on gnome loading.. but not while in the desktop session05:01
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[4dm|n___] guy's how to mount flash disk05:01
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sn0n[4dm|n___] , plug it in  :-p05:01
AntinomyI know. I have the feel for Syn, so now I wanted to try a self install.05:01
[4dm|n___] and05:01
nalioth_zZzAntinomy: you can find me tomorrow05:01
[4dm|n___] plug and ?05:01
sn0nubuntu and gnome auto mounts05:01
Antinomynaliothgood night, chief, and thanks again!05:02
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axis^bblanyone know if 6.1 works or video out ??05:02
[4dm|n___] it will be appear on my desktop ??05:02
sn0notherwise sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda# /mountpoint05:02
axis^bbl6.1 sound05:02
sn0n[4dm|n___] , it should, yeah05:02
[4dm|n___] ok05:02
[4dm|n___] i'll try05:02
Internatdev/hdb5       /mnt/fdrive     auto    rw,auto         0       0       <== that seem a valid entry for fstap to auto mount one of my drives?05:02
robotgeekaxis^bbl: :)05:03
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axis^bbl              hahaha05:03
Ka234how do I upgrade the Linux kernel will that be on the backports?05:04
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tritiumKa234, to which version?05:05
Proteque_Internat: not sure about the first auto.05:05
Proteque_Internat: I allways say what filesystem it is05:05
sn0nim not liking this vimtutor05:05
sn0nits annoying! ;-)05:05
sn0ni want my joe and gedit05:05
Ka234tritium, the latest05:05
Proteque_sn0n: vim <305:06
Will_sn0n: best thing to do is remap your arrow keys to flash a 'Stop using me!' message05:06
tritiumKa234, you're best off building your own, then with kernel-package05:06
Ka234how do I do that?05:06
dabaR hey05:06
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sn0nwhats undo in vi ?05:07
Will_sn0n: +you will find vi, or vim on every linux and unix like computer _evar_05:07
robotgeeksn0n: vim rocks!05:07
sn0nWill_, i know, but i'll also find pico, nano, or joe also  ;-)05:07
daba1so, you really think Ubuntu is the best distro out there right now to be #1 on all distrowatch boards? Even better than Debian?05:07
sn0ni like simple editors, vi is just complicated.. LoL05:08
Will_sn0n: Not on a lot of systems.05:08
sn0ndaba1, Ubuntu is debian you oaf05:08
daba1dont talk to me like that #1.05:08
sn0nwell.. you asked..05:08
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robotgeekvi is the *roxors*!05:08
daba1but, it is not, I mean,t ehre is debian, and tehre is ubuntu, neither ubuntu ppl nor debian ppl would agree with you on that.05:08
daba1I asked, I didnt not say call me an oaf.05:08
sn0nand distrowatch dont rate distros, it rates POPULARITY  ;-)05:09
tritiumKa234, see the KernelHowto linked on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation05:09
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robotgeeksn0n: and only number of hits05:09
daba1sn0n: now that is a reason I can accept, thank you.05:09
Ka234ok thanks tritium!05:09
sn0ndaba1, actually... debain AND ubuntu.. are the same.. so buggers off05:09
Kris_workhello, while I was at work today after a huge fight with my wife, a large portion of the files on my web server mysteriously vanished. Does anyone know if ubuntu logs things like files being deleted? :-/05:09
daba1dont be like that, go read the ubuntu code of conduct.05:09
sn0nWill_, you callin me a troll?  ;-)05:09
Will_I say nothing05:10
tritiumsn0n, please mind the Code of Conduct05:10
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sn0nthere is a code of conduct ?05:10
dbernar1no, thanks for the answer, just be nicer, so...05:10
sn0n:: unzips ::05:10
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sn0n:: aims ::05:10
tritiumsn0n, yes05:10
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sn0ni do follow some general guidelines in life, but i dont like independant rules.. ;-)05:11
dbernar1If you care: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct .05:11
ivan_qki finished to install ubuntu, anybody can help me about how i can upgrade openofiice to 2.0 version?05:11
desrtis there a way that i can give apt a .deb file and tell it to install it properly with all its dependancies?05:11
tritiumsn0n, we all have rules we have to live with05:11
dbernar1ivan_qk: is it in apt?05:11
desrtie: instead of tossing it to dpkg -i and screwing up my system...05:11
sn0ntritium, now always. ;-)05:11
ivan_qki did this05:12
Kris_workI'll take that as a no :-/05:12
_frankdesrt: dpkg -i wont screw up. It will tell you what you need05:12
ivan_qksudo apt-get install openofiice.org05:12
dbernar1ivan_qk: open synaptic, to start.05:12
desrt_frank; right.  any way to get those things installed automatically?05:12
ivan_qkand show me message with "openoffice is already up to version"05:12
Will_Kris_work: Not that I know of. Maybe ask your wife?05:12
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dbernar1ivan_qk: then once in synaptic, use the search to search for openoffice05:13
Kris_work she denies it of course, that's why I'm trying to figure out of it was her who did it05:13
_frankdesrt: I'm not sure how to do it when you start from a .deb file05:13
desrt_frank; me neither :/05:13
dbernar1Kris_work: :-/ ....05:13
sn0nyeah, id prolly have to ask my girlfriend.. LoL05:13
Kris_workand if it wasn't, which of the handful of people who had access05:13
Will_Kris_work: samba? that has logs05:13
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dbernar1I mean, it sure is strange given the circumstances05:13
sn0nthats what happened last time my treasure trove of porn went *poof*05:13
Krisshe's the only one who has motive05:13
dbernar1ivan_qk: openoffice.org2 is the package.05:13
robotgeeksn0n: i always chmod -x my porn!05:13
Kristhis is more like several months of 3d modeling work that she's very jealous of05:14
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dbernar1ivan_qk: so, synaptic helps with searches like that.05:14
ivan_qklet me do that05:14
sn0ni've learned to remote X it, and store it on a offsite server05:14
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Krislooking through samba logs now05:14
dbernar1kris, does she have root access?05:14
tritiumivan_qk, so does apt-cache search05:14
Krisdoes vftpd have a log somewhere?05:14
Krisdbernar1 she doesn't know how to ssh in05:14
tritiumKris, look under /var/log05:14
dbernar1so, she can not at all even access then?05:15
Krisbut samba does have root access because the only people that use it are myself and my wife :-/05:15
ivan_qklol sorry, i dunno understand very much05:15
dbernar1aha, ya, ok, well, look into it. I dont think there is undelete in Linux.:(05:15
ivan_qkcommand are very dificult to me yet05:15
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Krisok the samba logs only show errors05:15
dbernar1sorry to hear that, it is a good lesson to learn, tho...altho backup lessons are everywhere...05:15
Krisnot successful commands :-/05:16
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Krisalso the design doc for the game I'm working on was in there too :(05:16
dbernar1ivan_qk: they made almost everything GUI in Ubuntu, I think.05:16
KrisI'd link you to the web site but that's gone now05:16
dbernar1aw, man, thats so sad...05:16
Will_That's hard.05:16
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=== dbernar1 too.
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Will_It's 4am. I'm thinking of going for a run05:17
Krisyeah no one has used ftp in the last three days05:17
ivan_qksynaptic dont let me to select openoffice.org2 to install it05:17
Krisand no one has shell access except me05:17
Krisso it had to be samba05:17
Kriswell I guess that's my answer05:17
Krisshe says maybe there's a virus05:17
dbernar1ivan_qk: what does it say?05:17
Krisyeah right05:17
_frankivan_qk: is there an errot message05:18
Krisanway, thanks for help finding the logs05:18
dbernar1ya, I guess...05:18
ivan_qkya ok05:18
dbernar1see ya.05:18
sn0nKris, they allways say that05:18
ivan_qki do that in console05:18
Madpilota virus? on a linux machine? heh...05:18
Krisnow to look up whether ubuntu can get viruses...05:18
sn0nKris, LoL05:18
ivan_qkwith command that u give me05:18
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ivan_qkso, going to download 88 MB05:18
dbernar1ivan_qk: tell us the error message first.05:18
dbernar1oh, it works command line?05:18
MadpilotI think he had a virus called "angry wife", myself...05:18
ivan_qknothing error, just dont let me select box05:19
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dbernar1ya, too bad, tho, I mean, months of work...05:19
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dbernar1ivan_qk: ok, cool, so you downloading now?05:19
dbernar1good, that should be it.05:19
TecnoVM64hello, i wonder if anybody knows how to make a sis 7012 sound card work?05:19
ivan_qku think05:19
ivan_qkthis is my first linux distro05:20
TecnoVM64its the only problem i have with ubuntu05:20
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Madpilotdoes OOo2 install on top of 1.x, or is it a complete second install?05:20
tritiumMadpilot, you can have both05:20
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Madpilottritium: and they'll show up as seperate programs? cool. I like what I've seen of OO205:20
tritiumMadpilot, yes05:20
ubotusound is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206305:21
dbernar1TecnoVM64: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary?highlight=%28sound%29 ,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28sound%29 as well05:21
MadpilotTecnoVM64: see the URL that ubotu just posted05:21
dbernar1the second one is done by the expert, I think:)05:21
ChandonSo... Just got a new laptop. Apparently support for it's sound card requires ALSA 1.09 ; Additionally, I'd like my Intel 2915 wireless card to work. Is there any way to do this without resorting to a custom kernel/ALSA build?05:22
robotgeekChandon: :(05:22
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dbernar1maybe, Chandon, check out the URLs above, to see if that helps.05:23
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tritiumChandon, you can likely avoid the kernel build, but some have had to build newer alsa modules.05:23
robotgeekChandon: you can just build the alsa modules and overwrite the ones u have05:23
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Chandontritium, Is it possible to build new alsa modules with just packaged kernel headers?05:24
tritiumChandon, exactly (and alsa-source as well)05:24
TecnoVM64ubotu, dbernar1, Madpilot, thanks, im going to try it now05:24
ubotuTecnoVM64: Are you smoking crack?05:24
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dbernar1he is a bot05:25
TecnoVM64hehe lol sorry then05:25
dbernar1thats fine...05:25
dbernar1many dont get it right away.05:25
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dbernar1while we are at bots, I just joined #debian, and dpkg is not there?!05:26
MadpilotTecnoVM64: uBOTu can't help itself... ;)05:26
funkyHatubotu, i think it's you that's smoking crack05:26
ubotufunkyHat: Are you smoking crack?05:26
dbernar1he wants some, I think.05:26
funkyHatyes ubotu, want some?05:26
Madpilotmy favourite ubotu trick:05:27
Madpilot!start a language war05:27
ubotuRuby is better than C++!05:27
uboturobotgeek: Are you smoking crack?05:27
danielsno language flamewars here, please05:27
danielsoh great, a bot doing that05:27
danielsplease don't play with the bot05:27
Madpilotdaniels: but ubotu started it! honest!05:27
robotgeekdaniels: :)05:27
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dbernar1daniels, do you know where dpkg is?05:28
dbernar1is it something exciting, or just maintenance?05:28
danielsdbernar1: i had no idea it was even in this channel05:29
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SirPenguinTheDuchi guys....i have a super quick questions05:30
dbernar1no, it is now.05:30
dbernar1it is not, sorry.05:30
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tritiumSirPenguinTheDuc, go ahead and ask :)05:31
SirPenguinTheDucum.....will this run on an intel 486?05:31
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dbernar1it was not that quick.05:31
dbernar1the answer was...05:31
SirPenguinTheDucjus checkin05:31
MadpilotI think someone should program "start an editor war" into ubotu, that'll really get people excited... <evil grin>05:31
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dbernar1ya, my editor is better than yours, very exciting:)05:32
robotgeekare there logs of this channel maintained somewhere05:32
robotgeekdbernar1: it is!05:32
tritiumyes, robotgeek05:32
MadpilotLinux people seem to take their editors very seriously, I've noticed...05:32
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dbernar1Madpilot: ya, I notice linux attracts many opinionated people, also very stubborn, and narrow minded.05:33
robotgeekyeah, i now use my vim on windows, and even in microsoft word!05:33
robotgeektritium: where, though>05:33
dbernar1maybe cause of the freedom thing.05:33
dbernar1!seen ubuntulog05:34
ubotudbernar1: i haven't seen 'ubuntulog'05:34
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dbernar1well, I see him right here.05:34
MobusOk I habe a little problem with my GLIB, can anyone help me with this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/68505:34
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dbernar1my links dont work in epiphany.05:35
dbernar1I know how to fix it I think tho.05:35
dbernar1ha, Im good.05:35
tritiumrobotgeek, one of the devs keeps the logs.05:35
dbernar1Mobus: compiling it?05:35
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MobusI'm configuring for a compile, thats what that error was from yes05:36
Mobusfor xmms05:36
robotgeektritium: i was planning to wrtie another bot, which learns the common questions ppl ask and reply when it's sure, i tht the logs might be a good place to start05:37
dbernar1so you are compiling glib05:37
dbernar1is that exactly what it is called? is it in apt?05:37
Mobusreworx that please05:37
Madpilotrobotgeek: an auto-answering bot might get swamped in a channel like this05:37
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tritiumrobotgeek, I'm not sure if I should be advertising the log location publicly.  I'd have to ask first.05:38
Mobuswith less pronouns05:38
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dbernar1what is the package you are compiling called, is there a binary version in any of the repositories.05:38
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drcodehi all05:38
jago25_98How do I put this computer into sleep mode?05:38
Mobusthe package I am compiling is xmms-1.2.1005:38
MobusI already compiled glib-1.2.205:39
dbernar1jago25_98: does log out>sleep work?05:39
robotgeektritium: that okay, it's for a project which i would be starting abt 2 months down the line05:39
tritiumrobotgeek, ok, I'll find out for you05:39
robotgeekMadpilot: "intelligence"05:39
robotgeektritium: thanks05:39
jago25_98dbernar1: nope, looks like not in kde05:39
eyequeueii  xmms           1.2.10+cvs200505:40
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tritiumjago25_98, you may have to uncomment line 2 of /etc/default/acpi-support (ACPI_SLEEP=true)05:40
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vaderhey there tritium05:41
eyequeueFilename: pool/main/x/xmms/xmms_1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu1_i386.deb05:41
eyequeueFilename: pool/main/x/xmms/xmms_1.2.10-2ubuntu1_i386.deb05:41
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eyequeueMobus:  why not just sudo apt-get install xmms05:41
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tritiumhi vader05:42
Mobusit says it can't find xmms package05:42
vadervader= kevin dude05:42
Mobusbut IO'll try it again05:42
Mobusroot@Mobus:/home/mobus/xmms-1.2.10 # sudo apt-get install xmms05:43
MobusReading package lists... Done05:43
MobusBuilding dependency tree... Done05:43
MobusPackage xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:43
MobusThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:43
Mobusis only available from another source05:43
MobusE: Package xmms has no installation candidate05:43
ubotupastebin is probably at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood05:43
tritiumMobus, please don't paste in the channel.  Use pastebin or #flood05:43
eyequeueMobus:  see  http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/sound/xmms05:43
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tritiumvader, do I know you?05:43
vaderyes, I am usually here as kevin05:43
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tritiumokay, nice to see you, kevin :)05:44
dbernar1Mobus: xmms=very standard.05:44
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robotgeekdbernar1: xmms keeps skipping :(05:44
eyequeueMobus:  it is in main, so needs no aditional repositories even05:44
robotgeekdbernar1: i use vlc :)05:44
syndhow can i get rid of the window around terminal?05:45
syndto give the "integrated into the desktop" look05:45
eyequeuesynd:  alt-ctrl-f205:45
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aruView > Full Screen?05:45
syndeyequeue: same to get it back?05:45
eyequeuesynd:  alt-ctrl-f705:45
dbernar1hehe, not exactly what he means, prolly, but his question is a little undefined.05:46
aruI just have one fullscreen on my second desktop, incase I need to break stuff05:46
aruhe clicked the close button05:46
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vadertomorrow morning I will probly be here, going to need help moding my menu lists05:47
abarbacciahey all - anybody here use a rio mp3 player?05:47
IIIEarsCan you add transparency to the terminal?05:47
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syndIIIEars, yes05:48
IIIEarsReally? - co-ol!05:48
dbernar1but only for the desktop, windows under it wont be shown in gnome.05:48
syndsynd, but its a false transparency05:48
rommerhow can i run a command automatically when the computer boots?05:48
IIIEarssimilar to x-chat - yes?05:48
teferiIIIEars: yeah, it'll show you your desktop background, but not any intervening windows05:48
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teferiit's the same terminal widget - zvt05:49
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IIIEarsIs it easy to do?05:49
wenzhuoit seems to me that the index files of hoary-security/universe and hoary/universe are broken.05:49
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funkyHatno, you can add a crappy background 'transparency', i'm afraid that's as good as it gets on X ;)05:49
teferiyeah, that's what we're talking about05:49
ChandonDoing this the hard way is going to be easier. What are the gotchas for building a custom kernel on Ubuntu?05:49
Mobusok that didn't work05:49
wenzhuoanybody here experiences the same problem?05:49
funkyHati know :D05:49
teferione day, we'll finally have fast RENDER performance05:49
IIIEarslinks, pointers, tips?05:49
teferi...and one day, pigs will fly and we'll all cavort about on the big rock candy mountain05:49
syndso how does one rid the window around terminal05:50
teferiIIIEars: for gnome-terminal?05:50
funkyHatone windows feature i miss, alpha05:50
arusynd: View > Fullscreen?05:50
tritiumChandon, you don't want to just build alsa modules?05:50
teferiedit->current profile->effects05:50
IIIEarsyes please, - adding transparency sounds pretty good. :005:50
wenzhuogzip: stdin: not in gzip format   Err http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages05:50
syndaru: i dont want it fullscreen.05:50
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teferifunkyHat: well, whatshisface is rewriting the X acceleration architecture to make RENDER fast, isn't he?05:50
funkyHatwho what?05:50
funkyHatok, sounds goood05:51
syndso how does one rid the window around terminal. anyone?05:51
MadpilotIIIEars: in Terminal, Edit-Current Profile then Effects tab05:51
funkyHatum, you can do it synd i know.....05:51
syndfunkyHat: i know it can be done05:51
syndfunkyHat: just not sure how05:51
Chandontritium, There are a couple things I get out of a custom kernel like swsusp. That, and I'm having trouble figuring out how to build alsa modules that will work with the stock kernel.05:51
rommerhow can i run a command automatically when the computer boots?05:52
IIIEarsMadpilot - Thank You. - that was just too easy - grin05:52
MadpilotIIIEars: np. looks a bit funny - OK, a lot funny - over another full-screen program, though...05:52
wenzhuoThe package indexes of hoary-security/universe and hoary/universe are broken!05:52
syndrommer: in a console, you do sudo <command> -m05:52
tritiumChandon, you can enable suspend-to-ram in /etc/default/acpi-support (uncomment #SLEEP=true)05:52
syndrommer: iirc05:52
arusynd: wouldnt fullscreen work?05:53
syndaru: i dont want it fullscreen05:53
arutakes the window away05:53
syndaru: yes, it does. and i knew that previously05:53
Chandontritium, That'd be close, if it really works.05:53
arusynd: problem solved! :)05:54
syndaru: it actually just pushes the border outside of where you can see. its still there05:54
tritiumChandon, ymmv, but it works brilliantly for me05:54
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syndrommer: if i remember correctly05:54
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Chandontritium, That still leaves me with the problem of getting ALSA 1.09 kernel modules working with my ubuntu-2.6.10 kernel.05:54
syndaru: no, my problem is not solved.05:54
syndaru: correct05:55
Mobusok does sudo apt-get install xmms work for anyone else?05:55
syndanyone know?05:55
tritiumChandon, yes, not the most fun05:55
wenzhuocan anybody here verify if the package indexes are ok?05:55
syndMobus: if you have the correct repositories, it should05:55
IIIEarshmm - also an app called "alltray" - Worth trying?05:55
aruView > Fullscreen works here :)05:55
tritiumMobus, it's in main, so it should work for everyone05:55
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Mobusbut it didn't work for me05:56
Krisok I'm back with another question05:56
syndaru: you are missing something i made clear. i dont want fullscreen terminal.05:56
Krisare there any undelete programs out there for linux?05:56
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syndundelete programs?05:56
tritiumMobus, did you update your list of packages first (i.e. sudo apt-get update)?05:56
Krisany kind of file recovery stuffs05:56
thechitowncubshey everyone, i'm looking for someone that knows how to make nautilus scripts to help me make a script that uploads images to imageshack such as this tool http://reg.imageshack.us/content.php?page=quickload05:56
Mobusno not yet... I'll do that05:56
tritiumKris, "apt-cache search undelete"05:57
Chandontritium, When I do give in and build a custom kernel, what's going to go horribly wrong?05:57
Mobusdid it... same error05:57
Krisok, will that let me undelete things that were maliciously deleted by my wife via samba earlier today? :-/05:57
syndaru: you're bugging me05:57
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tritiumChandon, not sure how to answer that.  I'd suggest using kernel-package if you decide to build your own kernel.05:57
IIIEarssynd - take a peek at "alltray" - quite a few powerful options. - haven't tried it just saw it a min ago.05:57
Mobusok I updated my package list, and it didn't wokr05:58
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robotgeekChandon: you can build the kernel module, but not install them05:58
syndIIIEars: ah, nice. will do. thanks!05:58
IIIEarshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38938 alltray05:58
thechitowncubsdid anyone look at that link?05:58
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Chandonrobotgeek, I'm stuck on "error: your kernel has built in ALSA" when I try to ./configure05:59
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tritiumChandon, crimsun is the man to talk to.  He's the resident alsa expert06:00
robotgeekChandon: oops, they din't build alsa as a module06:00
Chinmanhow to input chinese in ubuntu?06:00
robotgeekChandon: Chandon, most likely u need to custom kernel compile06:00
ChandonSo... I guess the question is: does kernel-package work any differently on Ubuntu than on Debian?06:01
tritiumChandon, pretty much the same.06:01
desrtyou don't need to do that06:01
robotgeekChandon: i would't think so, though i havent rebuilt my kernel on ubuntu06:01
desrtyou can use the alsa-source06:01
tritiumhe doesn't want to06:01
Mobusok how do I get spt-get install xmms to work?06:02
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Chinmanapt-get -f install06:02
tritiumMobus, what's happening when you try?06:03
rommerwhat is heartbeat?06:03
rekaMobus: what error are you getting?06:03
robotgeekrommer: powerbook?06:03
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hacked`can i install any mini pci nic on my laptop ?06:03
hacked`or are only "some" supported06:03
thechitowncubschinman click that06:04
desrthacked`; search for "wireless" on the wiki for a list06:04
hacked`why some06:04
hacked`desrt, im talking about my laptop, not ubuntu06:04
hacked`can i go out and buy any mini pci wifi card for my laptop06:04
robotgeekrommer: what u toalking about?06:05
Mobusany ideas on how to solve that problem?06:05
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robotgeekrommer: talking06:05
desrthacked`; why are you  asking in here, then?06:05
hacked`cause i have 1 cheap laptop and 1 decent laptop, and the cheap laptop has the better wifi card, and i want to swap cards06:05
dbernar1Mobus: paste your sources.list to pastebin06:05
hacked`desrt, because the cheaper card is better supported by ubuntu06:05
bimberihacked`: Information regarding support for various cards - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards06:05
rommerrobotgeek: sudo apt-cache search heartbeat06:05
Mobuswehre's my sources.list?06:05
desrtbimberi; cheers06:05
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desrtMobus; /etc/apt06:06
dbernar1rommer, asked synaptic?06:06
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tritiumrommer, don't need sudo with apt-cache :)06:06
IIIEarshacked - Give it a try. - ubuntu supports most wifi without any problems06:06
desrtMobus; you can use synaptic to add/remove repositories06:06
bimberidesrt: np :)06:06
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rommertritium: yea, habit06:06
robotgeekrommer: sorry,no idea06:06
Chinmanthechitowncubs: i mean chinese. anyway, i will have a look at that. thanks06:06
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tritiumrommer, cool :)06:07
thechitowncubsChinman: it might work with chinese it says06:07
IIIEarshacked - if it worked with the live CD it will undoubtedly work with the HD install.  If it doesn't right off a little tweaking will make things right.06:07
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thechitowncubshey everyone, i'm looking for someone that knows how to make nautilus scripts to help me make a script that uploads images to imageshack such as this tool http://reg.imageshack.us/content.php?page=quickload06:07
Mobussources.list ^06:07
rekaMobus: hehe. replace your sources.list with the one here :http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38, then 'sudo apt-get update'06:08
robotgeekthechitowncubs: nautilus has scripting?06:08
thechitowncubsuh ya06:08
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rekaMobus: you only have the CD as your source of packages. :)06:08
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syndIIIEars: whats was the name of that?06:08
thechitowncubsChinman: http://www.ubuntu.org.cn/06:09
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glickscuse me how do i get nvu06:09
glickit doesnt seem to be in any of the repositories06:09
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Mobusok now its giving me this BS that I'm not the owner06:09
IIIEarsalltray? - yep, couldn't find it with synaptic only the link in ubuntu forums. (shrug)06:09
helpmeplshello how to disable MySQL password ??06:09
desrtMobus; you need to be root to edit it06:09
syndIIIEars: got that forum link? i accidentally hit alt+f4 :/06:09
rekaMobus: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:09
MobusThen why did ubuntu never give me a root account when I installed It?06:09
funkyHatglick, download the .package from nvu.com06:10
MobusI only have one account on the comp06:10
rekaMobus: b/c it's disabled by default06:10
glickfunkyHat, damn :(06:10
glickfunkyHat, is nvu even any good06:10
reka!tell Mobus about rootsudo06:10
glickis it worth getting?06:10
funkyHatglick, it's easy to do, trust me :)06:10
glickfunkyHat, no i mean is the program decent?06:10
helpmeplshello how to disable MySQL password ??06:10
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desrthelpmepls; repeating yourself is rude.  you might want to ask in a more appropriate channel06:11
funkyHati don't really use it much, but it seems pretty good06:11
helpmeplscan help me pls06:11
hacked`anyone ever set a wifi card to monitor mode before?06:11
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desrthelpmepls; if nobody answers it's because nobody knows.  see if you can find the mysql irc channel06:11
tzuqrissound is very important to me06:11
desrthelpmepls; someone there would probably know06:11
Mobusok I changed sources.list06:11
funkyHatgenerates much much cleaner code than dreamweaver or frontpage too06:11
Mobuswhat the command for update now?06:12
helpmeplsi was searching on google06:12
tzuqrisif i can't get sound up in ubuntu i go back to slackware06:12
helpmeplsbut not found06:12
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Mobussudo apt-get update?06:12
desrti just typed /join #mysql06:12
desrtand there it was06:12
rekaMobus: yes06:12
desrtgood luck06:12
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Mobusok its updating06:13
desrti hate when people have typos in their quit messages06:14
rekaMobus: also, you might want to install beep-media-player instead of xmms...it's prettier06:14
desrtyou can't tell them about it and by the time they come back you never remember06:14
Mobusnah, I like winamp06:14
desrtskip that stuff06:15
desrtinstall muine :)06:15
tzuqrisi am now leaving ubuntu06:15
glickdoes anyone here use nvu or is there something better/easier?06:15
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rekaMobus: it's an xmms clone06:15
desrttzuqris; ciao.  see you later.06:15
desrtIIIEars; your quit message has a typo in it :)06:15
funkyHatglick, try it out anyway06:15
tzuqrisyou guys are great too06:15
tzuqrisrather than help me...you say bye...06:15
desrttzuqris; we love ya :)06:15
tzuqrisslackware is better anyway06:15
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dabartzuqris: what do you need?06:16
funkyHatgood, bye then06:16
tzuqrisgoing back to slack06:16
desrtpeace, d00d06:16
dabarok, what did you need?06:16
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tzuqrissound works fine06:16
desrtare you leaving or what?06:16
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tritiumignore the troll06:16
IIIEarsheh - Thanks for noticing it. - eye canned spell. - ispell corrects words but interferes with nick completion. - you guys are stuck with me. - lol06:16
tzuqrisbut i can't get anything but static06:16
dabaroh, trolling?06:16
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desrtIIIEars; :)06:16
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dabartzuqris: well, there are entries in the wiki, and on the forums about sound...06:17
dabarsearch for sound.06:17
glickalso, how can i convert big as images to jpegs?06:17
glicki mean to thumbnails06:17
tritiumtzuqris, see the User Documentation in the topic.  There are very useful wiki pages.06:17
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desrtglick; install imagemagick06:17
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desrtglick; it has this nifty 'convert' program in it that does thumbnails06:18
tzuqrisi've tried forums and stuff guys06:18
glickkick ass06:18
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tritiumtzuqris, did you check out the User Documentation?06:18
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desrtglick; i think the command is something like convert original.jpeg -resize 100x100 thumb.jpeg06:18
tritiumor search the wiki?06:18
desrtglick; to make an image that's at most 100x100 (ie: will preserve aspect ratio)06:18
glickdesrt, is there an easier way to make quick and dirty html other thean nvu?06:19
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mgcrosstzuqris: what's your sound card?06:19
desrti don't know what nvu is06:19
glicki dont know shit about shit abut html and i dont have time or the ambition to learn06:19
Mobusoh crap... xmms just crashed06:19
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rekaMobus: change the ouput plugin to esound06:19
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Mobuscan't really, it crashed06:20
concept10glick, you could use nvu to make a WYSIWYG page and just save the htl output06:20
rekaMobus: killall xmms06:20
glicki have to compile nvu myself :(06:20
rekaMobus: then change it in preferences06:20
Mobusin terminal?06:20
concept10glick, you shouldnt have to06:20
tzuqrisi am not fighting with it06:21
rekaMobus: the killall comand? yes06:21
tzuqrisi have looked at too many pages06:21
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funkyHatMobus, kill it, start it again, and _then_ change the output plugin ;)06:21
tzuqrisubuntu isn't cutting it for me06:21
funkyHattzuqris, we noticed06:21
glicki dont see a deb anywhere06:21
tzuqrisi will recommend ubuntu to my idiot friends06:21
redtechhow might a usb external HD enclosure come up?06:21
mgcrosstzuqris: you'd like this better than slack if you'd give it some time...new way of doing thinks...but, each to hisown...06:21
funkyHatglick, of nvu? get the .package06:22
daba1tzuqris: I recommend Ubuntu to all my idiot friends.06:22
mgcrosstzuqris: slack isn't evil, or bad06:22
desrti recomment ubuntu to everyone i know06:22
tritiumtzuqris, please we're trying to help you.  No need to troll.06:22
desrtidiot or otherwise06:22
glickfunkyHat, how do install that?06:22
orbordeWhen I download a new version of Firefox, should I kill the Firefox package in Synaptic and then install?06:22
mgcrossdesrt: me too!06:23
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funkyHatglick, make it executable, and then sudo it06:23
desrtdabar; wb.06:23
robotgeekorborde: no need to06:23
concept10glick, hmm, no one has contributed a .deb since the 1.0 release it seems06:23
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daba1orborde: you should update through synaptic. Then, also, you should change a line in about:config to upgrade to 1.0.406:23
funkyHatit will download a 'package' installer and install that too06:24
robotgeekdaba1: how do we i save the about:config change?06:24
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redtecha ha sda106:24
concept10glick, im going to try to install the auto package06:24
glickscrew it ill write up the damn html by hand tomorrow, i just wanna post some pics of my guitar for sale on my website06:24
dbernar1robotgeek: it is saved, I think.06:24
glickdont feel like installing stray packages06:24
orbordedabal: How do I update through Synaptic?06:25
concept10have you heard of autopackage?06:25
dbernar1nvu is pretty standard, not stray.06:25
robotgeekdbernar1: i have to do it all the time06:25
glickdbernar1, then whys it not in the repos?06:25
dbernar1orborde: called the three button dance by Burgundavia, I think.06:25
tzuqrisi admire ubuntu, it's quite nice...it's made a top distro on my list and i have something to tell friends to try06:25
desrttzuqris; thanks for trying out for my /ignore list.  you just qualified.06:25
funkyHatglick, it shows up in 'manage 3rd party software' and is easily removable06:25
glickfunkyHat, ok so i have the package file06:26
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glickso just make it executable and do sudo sh nvu.package?06:26
mgcrosstzuqris is just frustrated..down boys06:26
mgcrossand grrrls06:26
tzuqrismgcross: dun worry about it06:26
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funkyHatglick, yep06:27
tritiumplease remember the Code of Conduct06:27
glicki cant wait till my horn comes06:27
desrttritium; there's a code?06:27
geneo91what is xwrapper.config06:27
tritiumdesrt, yes...06:27
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desrtgot a url?06:28
tritiumthanks, dbernar106:28
dbernar1why did I have to look thta up twice already?06:28
dbernar1Ubuntu is not alive here:)06:28
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Rotundcan someone help me get an airport card to work under ubuntu?06:28
dbernar1airport, thats it, not extreme?06:29
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dbernar1so, airport extreme?06:29
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Rotund802.11B  The 128-bit version.  Not the 64-bit.  Yes it is still an original airport.  I'm sure there were two.06:29
nJessi need assistance06:29
redtechi attached an external hd with a usb enclosure and succesfully mounted it.  I see that its a linux drive is there anything on the drive I can look at to identify the distro?  I dont remember what I was doing with this drive  LOL06:30
glickwow thats hot :)06:30
dbernar1nJess: cute.06:30
dbernar1redtech: /etc06:30
HrdwrBoBredtech: check /etc06:31
nJesstwo things, one, how do i make an image of a CD?06:31
geneo91tritium what is wrapper.config06:31
funkyHatglick, autopackage? i was pretty impressed too06:31
HrdwrBoBfor any file called redhat or debian or whatever06:31
glickquite impressive actually06:31
nJesstwo, how do i set up my box to allow other machines to network boot off of it06:31
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linlin___How do i set it so a command is run any time any user logs in?06:31
tritiumgeneo91, hmm?06:31
glicklinux is grown up more and more every day06:31
Rotundthe airport is NOT autodetected.  Though modprobing airport does bring up an eth1.  yes it works under osx.06:32
glicki know how to install shit from source, and compile my own software, but goddamnnit i shouldnt have to in this day and age!06:32
geneo91tritium:  its in the X11 folder06:32
HrdwrBoBRotund: if it works after that you can put airport in /etc/modules06:32
redtechnow..  what the hell was I doing...   roflrofl06:32
HrdwrBoBglick: exactly06:32
rommerhow do u change the computer naem?06:32
robotgeekglick: since you are not in a gentoo forum, it's okay to say that!06:32
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Rotundglick: GNU Source.  helps somewhat06:32
HrdwrBoBrommer: it's in /etc/hostname06:33
orbordeHow do I get Synaptic to operate through a proxy?06:33
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rommerok tyhanks06:33
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nJessQuestion: how do i run thin clients off of ubuntu?06:33
tritiumgeneo91, the best answer is "man Xwrapper.config"06:34
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derekgileshi all06:35
derekgilesne one here?06:35
dbernar1orborde: do you need to? there is an option, I am sure in the menus...06:35
IIIEarsnJess - this covers it. - not one click simple but not very difficult. http://www.ltsp.org/06:35
funkyHathmm... it's 5:40am... i think i should go to bed06:36
redtechnow here is a question that I have been meaning to ask..  In windoze if you dont "stop" a usb device you can piss it off.  Do you need todo anything special in *nix ?06:36
nJessIIIEars, the cd thing or the thin client thing?06:36
desrtfunkyHat; non-sense.  it's only 12:3606:36
IIIEarsfunkyHat - Are ya wimping out on us? - lol    g'nite :)06:36
derekgilesokay say I install this on my computer and like Im on a network and Im the only one on the network with this everyone else on windows can I still be networked to them or do i have to be on windows to be networked?06:36
orbordedbernarl: Since my Internet on this machine is through a proxy, yes. I set the HTTP proxy setting, but it's still not getting any new info.06:36
IIIEarsthin is in - lol06:36
funkyHati live in a real country ;), where we have the real time06:36
dbernar1redtech: umount...06:37
derekgilessomeone help me please06:37
redtechdbernar1, thats all?  I always feel like im missing something..06:37
orbordeDo I need to set up the FTP proxy as well?06:37
desrtderekgiles; you want samba06:38
dbernar1umount umounts it,. and then it is not mounted.06:38
desrtderekgiles; you can install it with the package manager06:38
derekgileswhats samba desrt?06:38
funkyHatnight all :)06:38
dbernar1orborde: not sure.06:38
dbernar1see ya06:38
desrtderekgiles; it's a program for letting linux computers function in groups of windows computers06:38
desrtderekgiles; file and print sharing stuff, basically06:38
orbordedbernarl: I guess I'll log off and activate that bit of the proxy,06:38
derekgilesand id just burn it to a cd06:38
fabbionehi desrt06:38
derekgileswould i beable to use internet also06:38
desrtfabbione; hey.  'sup?06:38
dbernar1hehe, I read the derekgiles message someone help me please, then I read his original message, and when I saw windows, I was like, ok, well, I dont know...06:38
fabbionedesrt: i got the fix for the scripts/ ready06:39
desrtderekgiles; oh.  you're not even on the internet with your ubuntu box?  that's another story then06:39
desrtfabbione; rocking :)06:39
orbordeOh, wait. Hang on.06:39
fabbionedesrt: it will be in the next upload..06:39
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orbordeThe only thing listed in the "Repositories" dialog is the CD.06:39
desrtfabbione; gorecki was down over the weekend due to some power work on campus.. i hope it didn't affect you06:39
orbordeWhat's the URI for the Ubuntu update  thingy?06:39
derekgilesis there away i can use the internet from the windows computer on ubuntu?06:39
desrtderekgiles; what sort of network card do you have?  ethernet?  wireless?06:39
fabbionedesrt: not at all... i had the fix ready 2/3 days ago06:40
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fabbionedesrt: i used diff to check :)06:40
desrtderekgiles; did the ubuntu installer detect your card?06:40
orbordederekgiles: Yes, you can. I am, at least.06:40
desrtfabbione; :)06:40
derekgilessee im just downloading the file now06:40
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desrtderekgiles; ahh.  ubuntu isn't installed yet?06:40
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Mobusxmms freezes whenever I hit play.. Can anyone help me fik this problem?06:40
poppycockwas up06:40
desrtwhen ubuntu comes up it should automatically detect your network06:41
derekgilesso it may auto-detect it and Id be fine than?06:41
KrisWoodhello, still trying to figure out how to recover lost files on ubuntu06:41
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desrtand if you have a DHCP server on your network (you probably do) then everything will basically be automatic06:41
poppycockmobus you a beoch06:41
KrisWoodI installed recover and gtkrecover but get a segmentation fault when attempting the recover06:41
desrtif not you'll need to know what IP address you want for it06:41
Mobusthanks. I'm flattered06:41
derekgilesight and i can have windows and ubuntu on the same computer both installed right I just choose at startup which i want to use?06:41
robotgeekpoppycock: cool it06:41
KrisWoodis anyone familiar with this program, or does anyone know of any others that do the same thing?06:41
dbernar1Mobus: I kno.06:41
desrtderekgiles; yes.  if you install ubuntu on a computer that already has windows on it, that's exactly what it will do06:42
dbernar1Mobus: open xmms with no file.06:42
poppycockmobus you suck munkee nutts06:42
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!06:42
dbernar1any ops to kick him?06:42
MobusI usually do06:42
IIIEarsKrisWood - How lost is "Lost" - fdisked/formatted over?06:42
Mobusthen I open fiels after I opened it06:42
desrtkick who?06:42
Mobusand when I hit play it freezes06:42
derekgilesight thatks for ur help desrt06:42
dbernar1then, right click on it, properties06:42
desrtderekgiles; i hope things work out well for you :)06:42
poppycockmobus you are sofa king we todd ed06:42
dbernar1and in the output plugin, select esd, works every time.06:42
derekgilesi'll be back if they downt06:42
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desrtwell.  i hope i never see you again, then :)06:43
robotgeekignore poppycock06:43
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derekgilesunless i break my computer than I'll be back in a few week06:43
derekgilesIll come back actually all the time when im on the internet just to idle06:43
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derekgilesill yell at you if i t dont work hows that sound desrt06:43
JDahlI tried to use nautilus to access another box via "connect to server" using SSH. How does that work? I get a fancy small icon, but06:43
bimberiorborde: You after a sample sources.list? - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3806:44
Mobusok I right clicked on it, but I don't see properties06:44
bimberioops - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3806:44
JDahl... small SSH icon, but I am never prompted for a passwork when I click it, and nothing happens06:44
KrisWoodIIIEars, my wife and I got in an argument earlier and she deleted a lot of my work via samba06:44
dbernar1options>prefs, sotty06:44
desrtderekgiles; k :)06:44
Mobusok I fized it06:45
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tritiumrobotgeek, sorry I was temporarily away.  Thanks, fabbione.06:45
KrisWood(that's the abbreviated version heh)06:45
dbernar1JDahl: well, works here06:45
dbernar1wanna go through it together?06:45
robotgeektritium: no probs06:45
dbernar1Mobus: excellent.06:45
Mobusok it works now, but I'm getting crappy quality06:45
dbernar1Mobus: not excellent.06:46
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firebird619I am trying to install f-spot and I first tried installing from Synaptic but the program doesn't run. I am now trying to install it through Terminal with configure, make, and make install but it says for Library requirements I need libgnome-2.0 >= 2.2 libgnomeui-2.0 >= 2. 2 libexif >= 0.5.7 libexif < 0.7.0 gtkhtml-sharp >= 1.0 gconf-sharp >= 1.0 glade -sharp >= 1.0 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4. The first 4 libraries listed are installed according06:46
JDahldbernar1, yeah.. that would be great, if you have time... regular SSH between the boxes works fine06:46
KrisWoodtrying to recover a few months of work that was deleted via samba is all.... dunno how deleted that makes it...06:46
dbernar1JDahl: open a nautilus window;)06:46
desrtfirebird619; f-spot is in apt... you should just be able to apt-get it06:46
dbernar1file>connect to server.06:47
dbernar1run a ssh server on that box, JDahl?06:47
desrtoh.  i see.06:47
desrtfirebird619; try running the synaptic f-spot from the terminal06:47
IIIEarsKriswood - If you are good with linux no problem. - google "forensics" i really like Helix (knoppix based) they all include usually the same base tools from penguin sleuth kit.06:47
Mobusman my problems are like a snowball rolling down a hill...06:47
JDahldbernar1, yeah... I can ssh to and from both boxes06:47
desrtfirebird619; see if it says anything like error messages06:47
Mobusfiz one, here's another 406:47
firebird619desrt: Isn't that sort of the same thing as getting it through Synaptic. Will apt-get also download all these dependencies that I need?06:47
orbordebimberi: I guess. Thanks,06:48
desrtfirebird619; ya.  it's exactly the same thing.  my mistake.... by the time i got to the end of what you wrote i had forgotten the beginning :)06:48
IIIEarshere is an ext2 fs driver tool for windows http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html06:48
orbordebimberi: Now if my Firefox weren't all screwed up, I could get to it.06:48
dbernar1JDahl: ok, lets do this first, then...06:48
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firebird619desrt: Sorry for the long message. When I tried getting it through Synaptic I didn't get any errors.06:48
desrtfirebird619; i'd say you're much more likely to get the old one working than succeed at trying to install it on your own06:48
bimberiorborde: I can paste contents to a /query if you like06:48
dbernar1so, file>connect to server, SSH in the dropdown, server: localhost, Port:22, folder: /home/username, user name: username, then hit the connect button06:49
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Mobusoh I c06:49
Mobusits not winamp that's crappy quality06:49
KrisWoodIIIEars, ok I'll look that up06:49
IIIEarsKrisWood, - F.I.R.E. looks pretty popular also06:49
Mobuseverything is crappy quality06:49
JDahldbernar1, why localhost? wouldnt it be the IP number of the remote host?06:49
firebird619desrt: How can I get the one install from Synaptic working. It needs those libraries and all I find them for is gentoo. Will alien convert them to .deb files?06:49
dbernar1I only have one comp right here, so that is why.06:49
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dbernar1try the other IP,06:50
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orbordebimberi: No, I got it. What is /query?06:50
dbernar1wanna join #nautilus?06:50
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desrtfirebird619; you said you installed it successfully from synaptic but it wouldn't run, right?06:50
gp_aaron|serverok I have a presetup full ubuntu install06:50
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desrtfirebird619; install it again with synaptic and let's try and get it running06:50
dkoh2does anyone know anything about upgrading firefox?06:50
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firebird619desrt: right.06:50
JDahldbernar1, this is what I did before... still doesnt work, it times out with the "Opening MySSH-CON"06:50
gp_aaron|serverhow can I i boot into textmode?06:50
ubotuFirefox on warty is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"06:51
Mobushow do I disable a device in the device manager?06:51
IIIEarsOops not very helpful06:51
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desrtMobus; disable how?06:51
dbernar1JDahl: do with the localhost.06:51
mgcrosshey all...anyone know the code to enter for korean languge from the livecd? wanna impress a local tech...doesn't belive the whole livecd concept...thinks I'm kidding....06:51
MobusI know what the problem is06:51
KrisWoodIIIEars, I'll try that one thanks :)06:51
desrt(device-manager is read-only by the way)06:51
firebird619desrt: OK I will try reinstalling it. I am on dial-up Internet so it will take a few minutes.06:51
Mobusits the same one I had in windows06:51
desrtfirebird619; it's probably in your apt cache06:51
mgcrosswould dig it up, but I'm in a hurry06:51
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MobusI have an external USB sound card06:51
Mobusand a builkt uin one tyo the motherbooard06:52
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Mobuswhen they're both installed, they go fuzzy06:52
PurpleBluwhat is a good font to use06:52
dbernar1oh, wow, it worked a moment ago.06:52
desrtMobus; so you want to prevent the usb one from loading?06:52
Mobusso I have to disable my built in souind card in order for my external one to work06:52
desrtwhat type of card?06:52
dbernar1BIOS, Mobus.06:52
PurpleBluWindows always used TImes New Roman not seein that, whats a good font?06:52
Mobusso I need to disable the sound controller in Device Manager06:52
derekgilessoory another question06:53
Mobusas in the setup?06:53
Mobusduring boot?06:53
dbernar1Mobus: I think so, as in while booting, press del06:53
derekgilesIf you already run another operating system, you must re-partition your hard disk in order to install a "standard" Linux distribution << do i need to do that for ubuntu also?06:53
Mobuseh ok06:53
desrtMobus; type lsmod | grep snd-06:53
desrtMobus; type lsmod | grep snd_06:53
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dbernar1derekgiles: do you have only one partition on the hard disk?06:53
desrtMobus; anything in there about ac97 or something?06:53
KrisWoodIIIEars, ok I'm having trouble finding download links for these, any ideas where to find them?06:54
firebird619desrt: It is done downloading and installing.06:54
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derekgilesIs that like another drive set aside like C and there could be another one D with a set amount of space06:54
mgcrossI'm digging now...anyone save me some time...and introduce Ubuntu to the geeks in Cheonan South Korea ;-)06:54
derekgilesnot like a harddrive just one harddrive acting as more than one06:54
desrtderekgiles; i think the ubuntu installer will let you shrink your drive C to make space for ubuntu06:54
JDahldbernar1, that works from the machine with sshd, but not from a new laptop without it... I thought I just needed the ssh client to make the connection, but maybe not (and right apt is busy doing a slowass postinstall upgrade)06:55
desrtit's called partitioning... and ya.. that's basically how it works06:55
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desrtof course you need to have enough free space06:55
dbernar1derekgiles: yes, partition of a hard drive06:55
JDahldbernar1, but thanks...06:55
desrtand it probably helps to defragment first06:55
dbernar1JDahl: sure:)06:55
tuxhagenpurpleblu: you can install times new roman if you want, take a look for msttcorefonts at synaptic - is it in your repositories?06:55
desrtfirebird619; so run fspot from a terminal06:55
desrtfirebird619; see if it says anything06:55
KrisWoodnm I found it06:55
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derekgilesbecause i have that arleady on my windows that im using now its named D with all my back up files you cant write to it its so If i get a virus I have that to start over for my back up06:56
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derekgilesso i was wanderign to make sure that that was like the same thing06:57
desrtderekgiles; generally speaking, having backups on the same computer as the original isn't good for protecting yourself from a virus06:57
dbernar1derekgiles: if you have a partition D that is not used for anything, and is big enough for you to use Ubuntu on, yes, install on that partition.06:58
desrtderekgiles; it's sort of like making a new drive letter... but not really the same06:58
dbernar1desrt: he is good to do anything.06:58
desrtlike, you won't see a new drive letter in windows06:58
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dbernar1I mean, having a separate data/windows partition is very good.06:58
desrtand you won't see any drive letters at all in ubuntu06:58
dbernar1viruses dont affect data, only programs.06:58
dbernar1and such06:59
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dbernar1just to let you know about the such06:59
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dbernar1I also today installed dynDNS, so I have a domain now. w00t, it is very simple, and there is a daemon program that runs and updates your IP whenever it changes, very cool stuff.07:00
firebird619desrt: It says:07:00
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firebird619** (/usr/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe:17147): WARNING **: The following assembly refere nced from /usr/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe could not be loaded:07:00
firebird619     Assembly:   gnome-sharp    (assemblyref_index=7)07:00
firebird619     Version:
firebird619     Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f07:00
firebird619The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MO NO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/usr /lib/f-spot).07:00
firebird619** (/usr/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe:17147): WARNING **: The class Gnome.Program could  not be loaded, used in /usr/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe (token 0x0100012e)07:00
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firebird619Unhandled Exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object07:00
desrtfirebird619; ok.  that's useful info07:00
desrtfirebird619; is libgnome-cil installed?07:00
hyphenatedfirebird619: it's quite rude to paste that much07:00
dbernar1firebird, please use http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl, or #flood for pasteing more than 3 lines of text07:00
firebird619hyphenated: sorry07:00
IIIEarsIf you still use windows. - setting up limited rights bon-admin accts to surf is a very good idea.07:01
dbernar1firebird619 even07:01
IIIEarserm "non-admin"07:01
dbernar1ya, hassle, windows, boring...:)07:01
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firebird619desrt: no, it is not installed. I am assuming I need to install it07:01
derekgilesight thanks again07:01
desrtfirebird619; ya.  give that a try07:02
derekgiles15 minutes left of download07:02
desrtfirebird619; the package should have installed it automatically.  don't know why it didn't.07:02
dbernar1I think I am ready to Eat Fresh (tm) at a local Subways...07:02
desrtfirebird619; you using backports by any chance?07:02
IIIEarsI agree - windows is not 'net safe. - games only until it is ported to linux. - grin07:02
derekgileslinux is like the safest operation system isnt it?07:02
dbernar1Subway - Eat Fresh, another oximoron...07:03
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wienerb0xdamn it, why does XMMS sound so much better than BMP :(07:03
firebird619desrt: I have a backport repository but it never seems to work. Should I delete it?07:03
desrtderekgiles; leaving your computer turned off is safest :)07:03
uboturobotgeek: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:03
desrtderekgiles; but linux is a lot more safe than windows, these days :)07:03
robotgeek!info hemlock07:03
IIIEarsderekgiles - there are a lot fewer exploits out for it. - draw your own conclusions.07:03
desrtfirebird619; well, if it doesn't work, then ya :)07:03
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desrtfirebird619; it's because backports switched to mandatory mirror use07:03
derekgilesmore people use windows because linux system are more complicated but easy once you get used to them07:03
desrtfirebird619; you have to use one of their mirror servers now if you want access07:03
derekgilesmy friend had red had 9 before07:04
derekgilesand i was like whoa07:04
dkoh2how do you uninstall a compiled program... like when you make it07:04
derekgilesi  understood it but yea07:04
desrtdkoh2; make uninstall07:04
dkoh2oh haha thanks07:04
desrtdkoh2; in the directory that you typed "make install" in07:04
desrtor "sudo make uninstall" i suppose07:04
IIIEarsderekgiles - no OS is really safe. - no execute bit in next gen of chips should slow  hackersdown some07:04
desrt'next gen'07:05
dkoh2what about emptying the recycling bin?07:05
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vdrabhello #Ubuntu ! I have this weird problem with gnome / X, it just randomly closes windows on me all the time.... no crashing, no reboots, just disappearing windows.... anyone have a clue on what may be going on? much appreciated.07:05
firebird619desrt: Yes, it makes sense to delete it beings it doesn't work but I thought it maybe would start working again. Those files are downloading. I will let you know when they are done installing and I will see if it works.07:05
desrtfirebird619; i sure hope it does :P07:05
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dbernar1vdrab: weird...try creating a new user, to see if it happens to him too.07:06
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JDahldbernar1, have you made a nautilus ssh connection to a remote server? It only seems to work with localhost for me07:06
vdrabcould it be a graphics card problem? i think not, but....07:06
dbernar1JDahl: doesnt work at all, for some reason...07:06
IIIEars<< - makes online purchases with a bootable CD or better over the phone. (Is that paranoia or what? - rofl)07:07
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nickrudvdrab, can you expand on that; for example, do you have to restart the programs?07:08
JDahldbernar1, I dont really need it - just thought it'd be a nice alternative to scp07:08
derekgiles10 minutes left of the download07:08
dkoh2is it possible to use a windows xp shared hp printer with ubuntu?07:08
derekgilesdkoh2 yes07:08
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derekgilesI already asked LOL07:08
dbernar1JDahl: ya, it would.07:08
vdrabnickrud: yeah, firefox, synaptic, anything.... they just close, so i have to reopen07:08
derekgilesdesrt answered me07:08
desrtIIIEars; credit card security over the net is probably somewhat better than giving your card to a human over the phone07:08
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dkoh2derekgiles: how do I do that?07:08
Internatderekgiles is it easy to set up? cause i just realised i have to do that as well07:08
Internatactually mines a network printer..07:09
desrtdkoh2; samba07:09
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nJesshttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/688 <--i had to do that, it was rather amusing07:09
derekgilesyou want samba07:09
derekgilesyou can install it with the package manager07:09
nickrudvdrab, weird. when you say reopen, does that mean starting the programs from the menu?07:09
desrtderekgiles; :)07:09
vdrabnickrud: yes, that's right.07:09
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derekgilesand samba desert  it's a program for letting linux computers function in groups of windows computers file and print sharing stuff, basically07:10
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desrtderekgiles; extreme delayed-action echo effect :)07:10
dkoh2awesome so apt-get samba desert07:10
desrtdesrt is me :)07:10
desrti'm not installable with apt07:10
nickrudvdrab, that is extremely weird to me :)07:10
desrtsudo apt-get install samba07:10
derekgileshah desrt I did pretty good at copying your words huh07:11
desrtderekgiles; :)07:11
PurpleBluIf I want to install some themes for my KDE desktop can I do that through Synaptic Packet Manager?  I think I need SuperKaramba them some themes.  IS this correct, can I do that?07:11
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orbordeHow do I check/change my screen resolution?07:11
PurpleBluwant some nice eye candy, you know what I mean.07:11
bimberinJess: it was indeed! :)07:11
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vdrabnickrud: see, it just friggin' closed Xchat on me....07:12
TokenBadif someone has a ftp up and its SSL..how do you ftp into it..or what is command to ftp into it since uses ssl?07:12
bimberiorborde: system -> preferences -> screen resolution07:12
derekgilesdoes ne one here like rap music?07:12
derekgilesbesides me07:12
TokenBadnot me07:12
desrtderekgiles; ubuntu will crash if you try and play any rap music on it07:12
desrtderekgiles; just advanced warning there07:12
IIIEarsSinatra and Clooney. - lol07:12
arudesrt: nice :)07:13
rommerdesrt; i've tried it doesn't, only crashes to classical and country07:13
Ghetekhow do i make a user called "www" and give it access to my apache-served webpage?07:13
firebird619desrt: That solved   the problem. Thanks for the help.07:13
nickrudvdrab, this is something you may want to take up on a mailling list: user, or devel. I think I can reasonably promise you that you'll get more help there07:13
desrtfirebird619; awesome :)07:13
arudesrt: hank3 ;)07:13
helpmeplswhere is the girl07:13
vdrabsweet. any concrete pointers? can i find it from the ubuntu forums?07:14
derekgilesdamn ima go for awhile its done downloading time to burn it heh07:14
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nickrudvdrab, yes, those lists can ge gotten to from the forums; I 'd suggest using pan and pointing it at gmane.org07:15
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Ghetekhow do i make a user from command line?07:19
bimberi_Ghetek: sudo adduser07:20
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helpmeplshow to add user with expired07:20
helpmeplsexample user joe with exppired desember07:20
helpmepls1 desember07:20
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dkoh2so I got samba installed, what do I do next to print to an xp computer?07:22
TokenBadif someone has a ftp up and its SSL..how do you ftp into it..or what is command to ftp into it since uses ssl?07:22
PurpleBluokay, I downlaoded a source file.  I did the ./configure command from console, what is my next step?07:22
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CarlFKis there a pastebot I can apt-get install?07:23
rommerdo u need an even number of computers to make a cluster?07:23
dgimusiquei need help... lots of it... WHAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH UBUNTU???? i tried installing RPM's Debians, i tried too many thing I AM LOST!!! i'm also pretty new to linux.... i'm trying to follow the information on websites and such to install my programs... NOTHING WORKS!!! i'm freaking out!!!07:23
rekaPurpleBlu: what are you trying to install?07:23
PurpleBlui think I need to make it or something07:23
helpmeplsguy's help me07:23
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CarlFKfirst un-install samba - you don't need it07:24
nickruddgimusique, there's a simple rule for using ubuntu: only use packages from ubuntu repositories07:24
rekaPurpleBlu: er, it's in the repo it seems07:24
PurpleBluohh really, where I go?07:24
aruPurpleBlu: System > Administration > Synaptic  then search for superkaramba07:24
dgimusiquenickrud : where's that?07:24
rekaPurpleBlu: sudo apt-get install superkaramba07:24
bimberi_dkoh2: system -> administration -> printing; New Printer; Network Printer; Windows (SMB)07:24
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rekaPurpleBlu: always check the repo first....compiling from source is the "harder" way of doing things07:24
aruor use the console, either way07:24
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nickruddgimusique, the 25 word or less version, is use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 as the text in /etc/apt/source.list07:25
aruI like my linux gooey07:25
nickruddgimusique, the 25 word or less version, is use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 as the text in /etc/apt/sources.list07:26
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bruce_join #lisp07:26
CarlFKthere is a #lisp?07:26
rekanickrud: hehe..that's not like you. :)07:26
nickruddoh, doh, cut and paste please :)07:26
CarlFKwow... what about #forth...07:26
helpmepls#lisp is homo chan07:27
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CarlFKwow!  25 users in #forth07:27
rekahelpmepls: easy now...07:27
helpmeplsnot yet reka07:27
helpmeplsi'll do tomorrow morning07:28
JDahlCarlFK, is that the hyped future Fortran killer by Sun et al.?07:28
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helpmeplsreka do you know how to adduser with expired i mean exam user joe with expired 30 des07:28
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helpmeplsfrom now07:28
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rekahelpmepls: no07:29
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helpmeplsi wanna rent my shell07:29
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TokenBadanyone know how to ftp into a ftp that requires SSL for auth?07:30
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ubuntudriftfast1anyone here?07:30
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ubuntudriftfast1im a newb to ubuntu, bare with me07:31
ubuntudriftfast1first linux distro07:31
bimberi_TokenBad: sftp didn't work? (my modem dropped out just after i typed it)07:31
dgimusiquenickrud : i don'T get it... there is no softwares in what you just showed me07:31
TokenBadlet me check07:31
looserdgimusique apt-cache search07:31
dgimusiqueapt-cache search?07:32
TokenBadand i just type that in the console right?07:32
ubuntudriftfast1can anyone tell me of a good primer to get my feet wet for linux07:32
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ubuntudriftfast1or should i learn a language first07:32
KosaiHello.  I'm running a hoary install on powerpc, and I mistyped the first screeen of "set new root password".  Now, every time I go back into that menu, it prompts me to retype the password (which I don't know, because it was mistyped) correctly, and won't let me give an initial password again.07:32
KosaiDoes anyone have any suggestions?07:32
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thechitowncubsjn nphy07:32
Ghetekoy, i got a webserver question. just decided to come here b/c not getting too much of an answer at apache (but i am on ubuntu). i get a 403 error when trying to access my web page. i know it has something to do with permissions. i dont have x or a window manager.07:32
rekaubuntudriftfast1: tlpd.org07:32
thechitowncubsGhetek: why do you need a window manager?07:33
rekatldp.org rather07:33
ubotu[rescue]  Boot the install cd with rescue as boot parameter for system rescue mode07:33
ubuntudriftfast1what do i do for your name to be highlighted?07:33
looserGhetek go there07:33
otepubuntudriftfast1: or buy "running linux"07:33
reka!tell dgimusique about repositories07:33
ubuntudriftfast1is that a book?07:33
Ghetekthechitowncubs: go where?07:33
tzuqrisalright guys07:33
otepfrom o'reilly and associates07:33
dgimusiquethx reka07:34
Gheteklooser: go where?07:34
thechitowncubsGhetek: where did you put the index.html file?07:34
rekaubuntudriftfast1: if you type someone's name in your post, it will be highlighted for them07:34
ubotuI guess rescue is Boot the install cd with rescue as boot parameter for system rescue mode07:34
tzuqrisi've come back07:34
ubuntudriftfast1reka that do it?07:34
bimberi_ubuntudriftfast1: another place: http://tuxfiles.org/07:34
Ghetekthechitowncubs: its in /var/www/07:34
rekaubuntudriftfast1: yep :)07:34
KosaiThe rescue quote was for me?07:34
ubuntudriftfast1cool, thanks07:34
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thechitowncubsis that where you told apache to look?07:34
tzuqrisi want to get these sound issues solved07:34
thechitowncubsGhetek: man chmod if you need to learn about permissions07:34
Ghetekthechitowncubs: yeah07:35
ubuntudriftfast1i had microsoft, so is there anything like cmd prompt on ubuntu, or do I just write the code as needed?07:35
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Ghetekthechitowncubs: its a user/permissions problem07:35
thechitowncubsman chown07:35
thechitowncubsman chmod07:35
tzuqristhat is a link that i tried07:35
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rekaubuntudriftfast1: apps > sys tools > terminal07:35
otepubuntudriftfast1: the terminal07:35
looserguy's brb i wanna to piss07:35
rekaubuntudriftfast1: read this while you're at it07:35
Ghetekthechitowncubs: yeah i looked at those and sis what apache said i made a user called www and i used chown and gave www access to the folder07:36
reka!tell ubuntudriftfast1 about rootsudo07:36
Ghetekbut the outside world cant see it07:36
tzuqrisand i tried this for my sound http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2656707:36
tzuqrisanybody got anything for me?07:36
ubuntudriftfast1reka,otep the terminal. Thanks. it should make it alittle easier now07:36
TokenBadis there an apt-get for bsdftpd?07:36
GhetekTokenBad: apt-cache search07:36
TokenBadI did that07:36
TokenBadreturned no responce at all07:36
ubuntudriftfast1reka thanks I got to go study07:36
otepubuntudriftfast1: go to http://tuxfiles.org/ as suggested by bimberi, click "command line" on the left07:37
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rekatzuqris: there aren't many sound gurus in here....but crimsun is who you want to get a hold of. keep dropping by until he's active07:37
GhetekTokenBad: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search bsdftpd07:37
tzuqrisreka: got maybe a time frame of when that usually is?07:37
rekaKosai: not really.  are you sure it's the root password you mistyped?  b/c by default you enter *your* password to do priveliged actions07:38
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rekatzuqris: try every two hrs if you can07:38
PurpleBlureka - searched for superkaramba in Synaptic Packet Manger, nothing.07:38
ubuntudriftfast1thanks everyone07:38
Mechcozmoalright... i'm installing ubuntu07:38
rekatzuqris: i'm not in the US so it's tough for me to pinpoint his times07:38
Mechcozmoand its complaining about something07:38
tzuqrisproblem is...i have a pretty short time frame07:38
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Kosaireka: It's the installer.  No-one *has* a password yet.07:39
rekaPurpleBlu: it's in universe07:39
Mechcozmoi'm trying to install it onto partition #607:39
Mechcozmowhich is a real partition07:39
TokenBadI still don't find it07:39
reka!tell PurpleBlu about repositories07:39
tzuqrisi will try a couple more things with this then07:39
Fideliocan anybody please explain to me how to specify the dhcp server in ubuntu?07:39
Mechcozmo(only four of them, #1,5,6,7)07:39
dgimusiquehere is what happens when i try to open the synaptic : Child terminated with 1 status... it won't open07:39
Mechcozmoi can't even get that far07:39
Fidelioie : how to connect to a specific DHCP server07:39
rekaKosai: the installer?  you're supposed to *set* your password there, it's not supposed to stop you if you get it wrong.07:40
rekadgimusique: you sure you don't have a session open already?07:40
Mechcozmothe installer won't go that far!07:40
Mechcozmoi'm trying to partition07:41
Mechcozmoand its being a rather large PITA07:41
PurpleBluuniverse?  talking about the section in Synaptic Packet Manger?  cause there is no section called that.  And yes please tell me about REPOS, cause I aint see it in Synaptic, and I even searched too.07:41
Mechcozmono root filesystem or something07:41
otep!tell otep about repositories07:41
dgimusiquereka where should that be?07:41
rekaPurpleBlu: settings > repos07:41
Kosaireka: You set it by typing it twice.  I typed it once, making a mistake, and then it asked me to repeat.  I can't repeat it, since I don't know what I typed.  It keeps asking me to repeat it, without giving me an option of not repeating it and setting it again.07:41
rekaPurpleBlu: read the wiki page i sent you07:41
PurpleBlureka, reading now07:42
otepubotu is a demigod...07:42
ubotuotep: Are you smoking crack?07:42
rekadgimusique: you probably have an open synaptic window already07:42
Mechcozmoanyone going to bother helping me?07:42
dgimusiquereka all i have opened is this X-chat and AIM talking to my girlfriend07:42
rekaKosai: oh, i see.....imho, easier to just reboot and start again. :-/07:42
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Mechcozmowhat the hell is the root file system, how do i define it, and how do i correct it?07:42
TokenBadif console based ftp07:43
TokenBadhow get it to download a full dir?07:43
rekaKosai: afaik, it's going to be *really* tough to be able to get the password at that stage.07:43
TokenBadI tried get dirname07:43
TokenBadand it says its not a file07:43
dgimusiqueWhoever plays as root... ends up fucking a tree07:43
SeveasTokenBad, try mc (midnight commander) for console based ftp :)07:44
MrGardenHoseMangues how do i set up a connection over pppoe07:44
TokenBadI am haaving to use ftp-sll07:44
SeveasMrGardenHoseMan, pppoeconf07:44
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MrGardenHoseManit's starting to drive me mad07:44
MrGardenHoseManTHANK YOU!07:44
MrGardenHoseManlets take a stab at it07:44
Fideliodoes anybody in here have experience with DHCP in Hoary?07:45
SeveasFidelio, yes07:45
Seveasboth server and client07:45
TokenBadSeveas, in a ssl based ftp..how get a full dir..get don't work07:46
TokenBadand the mc you gave didn't work07:46
FidelioSeveas : I am trying to connect to a Broadband Router which acts as my DHCP server from Hoary07:46
Fideliobut I'm not getting lucky07:46
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supernixhiya gang07:47
supernixI am using Kubuntu and I was wonder what the best way would be to add the fonts from my windows system to Linux07:47
SeveasFidelio, what does killall dhclient3 && dhclient3 eth0 (or whichever your card is) say?07:47
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dgimusiqueok i'm trying to open the Synaptic manager thing... and IT IS NOT already running, i even tried restarting... it'S telling me the same thing it did a while ago :(07:47
bimberiTokenBad: mget transfers multiple files (but not directories)07:47
otep!tell otep fonts07:47
SeveasTokenBad, ah, mc cannot handle sftp, sorry07:47
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TokenBadthen how get full dirs?07:48
PurpleBlureka, when adding universe repositories, doI  just want to add binaries or source to?07:48
Discipulusalright, what's the difference between a hard link and a symlink?07:48
FidelioSeveas, both router and ethernet are on wireless...so mine is on wlan007:48
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rekaPurpleBlu: both07:48
rekadgimusique: ok, full error again please?07:49
SeveasFidelio, ahhhh, wireless07:49
SeveasFidelio, with encryption?07:49
FidelioSeveas, nope...but I have a card that according to ubuntu is well supported in Hoary07:50
PurpleBluohh yes, superkaramba here I come07:50
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PurpleBluI am loving this07:50
dgimusiquewell i have it installed in french... Echec lors du lancement de /usr/sbin/synaptic : Child terminated with 1 status07:50
Thewarmachineim nervous about tomorrow07:50
SeveasFidelio, what does iwconfig wlan0 say (output on pastebin please)07:50
Seveasdgimusique, try sudo synaptic in a terminal07:50
FidelioSeveas, you'll have to give me a sec for that07:51
Seveasyou might be able to see a better error description then07:51
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SeveasFidelio, ok07:51
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mebaran151how do I manually mount a usb pendrive from cli07:51
Thewarmachinehow would I go about making my webcam work07:51
Seveasmebaran151, pmount /dev/sda07:51
rekadgimusique: ok, and you entered *your* password?07:51
Seveasreplace sda by the correct drive07:51
mebaran151Seveas, what is the correct drive07:51
mebaran151taht is my question07:51
dgimusiquedgimusique is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported07:51
Seveasmebaran151, ghe :)07:51
mebaran151how are usb devices classifed07:51
PurpleBlureka, now when I download theme for superkaramba I dont do it through Synaptic do i?07:51
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mebaran151are tehy scsi's?07:52
Seveasmebaran151, as /dev/sd*something*07:52
Seveasbut usually they are automounted07:52
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Seveasif not: consult dmesg to see the scsi position of the drive07:52
Thewarmachineanyone have ideas????????????????????????????????07:52
rekaPurpleBlu: not sure....check if there are themes in the repos....if not, then yes, need to do it some other way07:52
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rekadgimusique: ah, there you go07:53
arumebaran151: System > Administration > Device Manager | and see if it's listed07:53
reka!tell dgimusique about rootsudo07:53
rekadgimusique: i think you need to add yourself to the sudoers file07:53
rekadgimusique: read the wiki page i sent you07:53
Thewarmachinedoes anyone know?07:54
PurpleBluyep, didnt find liquid weather07:54
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aruThewarmachine: what kind of camera?07:54
mebaran151aru, eh I dont have a gui07:54
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mebaran151I have a server only install07:54
mebaran151and I neecdd to do it the old fashioned way from the cli07:54
Thewarmachinelogitech quickcam express07:55
arumebaran151: sorry for your luck :)07:55
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aruThewarmachine: USB?07:55
Thewarmachine yes07:55
PurpleBlureka, what desktop you use? Gnome, Kde? what?07:55
rekaPurpleBlu: gnome07:55
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PurpleBluno KDE?07:55
mebaran151aru, so what do they normally classify usb drives as07:55
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rekaPurpleBlu: which is why i have't had experience with superkaramba07:55
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mebaran151ada had or /dev/usb/something07:55
rekaPurpleBlu: i prefer gnome07:55
Seveasjay for flaky freenode :(07:56
SeveasThewarmachine, you need quickcam modules for the kernel07:56
SeveasThewarmachine, it's a PITA, never got it to work myself07:56
PurpleBluohh really, even for eye candy?07:56
mebaran151sda hda or /dev/usb/x07:56
rekaPurpleBlu: there's #kubuntu and #kde if you didn't know07:56
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rekaPurpleBlu: i like a minimalist desktop07:56
Fideliohow do I get to pastebin?07:56
Thewarmachineany idea how  would go about it?07:56
Seveasreka, fluxbox? :)07:56
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SeveasFidelio, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:56
dgimusiquereka i can't even add a new user it gives me the same error... looks like i have an account problem in here :S07:56
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rekaSeveas: i'm too used to gnome's shortcuts/quirks :)07:56
Seveasdgimusique, shat does sudo synaptic say?07:57
Seveas(ina terminal)07:57
dgimusiquedgimusique is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported07:57
rekadgimusique: well, i'm pretty certain that's what you need to do....do it with a user who already has sudo privileges.07:57
Thewarmachineseveas any idea where I could acquire that07:57
dgimusiquei only have ONE user account in my ubuntu installation...07:57
dgimusiqueand it's this one07:58
rekaoh. :)07:58
dgimusiquei set a root password...07:58
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GlendosCan someone recommend a "WORKING" free dvd/cd recording program for gnome?? Nautilus has problems burning my data DVDs, Graveman sort of works except it gives growisofs errors, Gnomebaker 3.3 works fine except I can't Name my cds, Gnomebaker 0.4 Segfaults when I start burning.. and K3b needs crap load of QT libraries, and finally Nero Linux demo works but its not free and not opensource..07:58
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arumebaran151: mine says /dev/sda07:58
dgimusiquebut i have no clue how logon to it...07:58
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ubuntudriftfast1tuxflies.org doesnt work07:58
SeveasThewarmachine, from synaptic :)07:58
rekadgimusique: doesn't the wik tell you?07:59
Thewarmachinewhat packages?07:59
Thewarmachineand sorry for the pesterance07:59
mebaran151aru, it is a scsi device07:59
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aruGlendos: I use graveman with no problems, what is it you burn that gives you errors?07:59
ubuntudriftfast1reka the link tuxflies doesnt work, i even typed url in firefox. is that right?07:59
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arumebaran151: thats what it says, but its USB08:00
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Glendosaru, simple data DVD .. :(08:00
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SeveasThewarmachine, in private (too big to paste in here)08:00
rekaubuntudriftfast1: google08:00
aruGlendos: weird08:00
mebaran151aru, weird devices often work that way08:00
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Glendosonce it finishes it says some crap about growisofs08:00
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TokenBadso anyone know how to get ftp-ssl to get full dir?08:00
Glendosbut it seems to burn correctly though... the files seem to be there and load08:00
mebaran151because Linux has a pretty robust scsi interface08:00
ubuntudriftfast1gotcha, does a live cd, have all the same things as the standard ver.08:00
GlendosI was just hoping that all this grand opern source projects actually had one decent working burning program08:01
romhas anyone here tried to make a linux cluster using ubuntu?08:01
rekaGlendos: 2 things that might  be relevant [1]  enabled DMA? [2]  tried a slower write speed?08:01
ubuntudriftfast1reka does live cd the exact same as real ver.?08:01
robotgeekubuntudriftfast1: yup08:01
Glendosreka, good point, I have DMA enabled , umask on, 32-bit IO08:02
ubuntudriftfast1alright, it just seemed like the about in terminal didnt do what someone said08:02
Glendosreka, I'm trying to burn 8x dvds at 4x to be safe08:02
IIIEarsGlendos - Then you have tried k3b and gnomebaker? - pretty sure there are others nero is linux also08:02
Glendosand still the same problem08:02
dgimusiquereka yup and everytime i try any of the commands in there i get the same thing : dgimusique is not in the sudoers file.08:02
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ubuntudriftfast1reka thanks again08:02
GlendosIIIEars, refer to my long paragraph above :)08:02
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IIIEarsGlendos if you have Nero - sign in to their site and pick up the linux vers.08:03
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rekadgimusique: weird....if you're the only user, you should be able to sudo08:03
anacronwhat's the suggested way to make linux run internet radio?08:03
Razor-Xanacron: there's no real ``suggested'' way08:03
Haroldanacron:  Why not go with podcasting?08:03
Razor-XI prefer VLC meself, because I generally listen to Shoutcast streams08:03
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dgimusiquereka i even tried logging out and loggin back in08:03
Razor-XHarold: because we all don't have iPods? ;)08:04
GlendosIIIEars, I was hopiong to rely on the free opensource things available before downloading a GTK 1.x app that's closed source08:04
rekaIIIEars: <Glendos> "...and finally Nero Linux demo works but its not free and not opensource.."08:04
HaroldRazor-X: Who needs an iPod?  I listen to podcasts on an iRiver.08:04
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HaroldRazor-X: Or simply on my PC/Mac.08:04
redtechi dont suppose there is any way to run a .net app in ubuntu?08:04
IIIEarsI agree open source does what i need it to do.08:05
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HaroldRazor-X: "Podcast" is just a term.08:05
GlendosI was going through the source code for Gnomebaker and Graveman...08:05
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GlendosGnomebaker has 10 times cleaner code08:05
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Glendos0.4 would be awesome if I could find the bug that causes the segfault08:05
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aruif you a competent enough to go through the code, then you shouldn't get errors :)08:05
Razor-Xs/iPod/somewhat expensive MP3 Player/08:05
rekadgimusique: ok, to double check, you did the 'adding users' step on the wiki page?08:06
aruI have never seen any linux code and I don't get any errors :)08:06
IIIEarsaru - lol - you are bad.08:06
bimberianacron: the method that comes with the basic install is Rhythmbox (Applications -> sound & Video -> Music Player )08:06
aruwell it's true!08:06
Harold Razor-X Again, you don't need an iPod to listen to podcasts.08:06
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Glendosaru, I was going to debug it.. but it's not easy...08:06
dgimusiquereka, it tells me i'm not in the sudoers file even when i try that08:06
robotgeekRazor-X: i started seeing vi replacement strings08:06
Glendosit's worse with Graveman because the code is written by french dudes08:06
Glendosand all the variable names are french etc08:06
Glendoswith the comments08:06
aruGlendos: why not make a perfect cd burner with a nice gnome interface?08:06
hacked`how many gigs do i need for a basic install of ubuntu (dont need wordprocessing, etc, just some basic compilers, etc)08:06
anacronbimberi: so i can make my own radio with that?08:06
HaroldRazor-X: bashpodder is a tool that provides command line downloads of podcasts.08:07
hacked`5 gb enough ?08:07
aruhacked`: maybe 1 or 2 :)08:07
Fidelioseveas, I can't paste the code since ubuntu is on my other system...08:07
rekadgimusique: logout, then iirc, you can log in as root using the username 'root' or 'rootuser' and the root password you set08:07
hacked`k, 4 it is08:07
rekadgimusique: then try adding yourself08:07
Glendosaru, I am thinking of joining the gnomebaker project and help fix it up... I think enough people tried to start from scratch and left a half baked job08:07
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rekaGlendos: hehe...pun08:07
desrtGlendos; work on serpentine instead08:07
Fideliobut the output gives me almost all the details of the wlan0 card08:07
bimberianacron: not sure but I'd say it's "tune in" only08:07
dgimusiqueok thanks reka i'll try that08:07
arugnomebaker... baked... nice pun08:07
Glendosdesrt, but baker does audio burning too08:08
Fidelioexcept for an IP Address08:08
desrtGlendos; serpentine does audio08:08
bimberianacron: ... but not broadcast08:08
Glendosreka, :)08:08
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desrtGlendos; also worth improving, probably is nautilus's cd burning support08:08
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aruIIIEars: I wasn't trying to be rude, I've just never seen any code :)08:09
anacronbimberi: eh, i was asking about broadcasting, sure you can listen streams almost with every player, and i think xmms is good for that08:09
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rekaGlendos: i assume you've googled the heck out of 'gnomebaker segfault'?08:09
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bimberianacron: yes, realise that now, my apologies08:09
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Glendosreka, I have been trying to get a hold of the developers :(08:10
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Fidelioseveas, you still there?08:10
Glendosreka, 0.4 came out 2-3 days ago... so not much bug reports on it yet08:10
rekaFidelio: said he'd be back in an hour08:10
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NetEchoHi I have some questions about the livecd08:11
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rekaGlendos: so you got the one that isn't in the repo?08:11
NetEchowhat desktop interface does it use?08:11
Razor-XHarold_Stdyng_C: how is podcasting?08:11
NetEchothe AMD64 version08:11
Fidelioanybody else in here have any experience with DHCP client in Hoary?08:11
rekaNetEcho: gnome08:11
Razor-X(you influenced me to start learning Ruby ;)08:11
NetEchoreka what terminals are available?08:11
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Razor-Xoh yeah, and I know you aren't here robotgeek but...08:11
Glendosreka, yes, I compiled the new release from source... the one in the repository is missing a VERY VERY important feature. It won't allow you to name the cds you burn08:11
Razor-Xdoes it fscking look like a vi replace string?08:11
rekaNetEcho: gnome-terminal, definitely...i think xterm's there as well08:11
Razor-Xno it's fscking not, fscking fsck!08:11
NetEchogood good08:11
Razor-Xit's a fscking sed fscking replace string08:12
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Razor-Xand that's the fscking closest i'm getting to using `vi'08:12
rekaGlendos: :)08:12
Razor-Xok, enough ranting08:12
NetEchoI'm doing a gentoo install from it and since Knoppix only comes in x86 I cant install the AMD64 gentoo08:12
Razor-XWindows made me do that08:12
MrGardenHoseMananyone know the command to config the monitor08:12
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Razor-XI had to troubleshoot Windows, and I came back disgruntled08:12
MrGardenHoseManmore like refresh rate really08:12
rekaGlendos: does the repo version segfault too?08:12
NetEchoand I only have Knoppix instructions but I guess it would be the same08:12
Glendosreka, I was shocked :) .. no the rep one doesn't segfault08:12
NetEchoI hope xterm is there :D08:12
NetEchowhat about xchat and gaim?08:12
Razor-XNetEcho: xterm is defaulted -- I think08:13
NetEchogood good08:13
Razor-XgAIM is in Ubuntu, Kopete in the other08:13
Razor-XXChat is defaulted08:13
reka!tell MrGardenHoseMan about fixres08:13
Razor-XI prefer Eterm meself, but "To Each His Own"08:13
NetEchoin Ubuntu AMD64 livecd?08:13
Dr_Willis"twin" is an interesting terminal program as well.08:13
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MrGardenHoseManwhat do you mean fixres08:13
GlendosI'm trying to do a Trace see where it segfaults.... what's funny though is that when you turn on trace it doesn't segfault08:13
NetEchoI prefer command line for some stuff but xterm is pretty good08:13
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Glendosbut it made a coaster dvd... invalid FS or something08:13
NetEchoits been a while since I've been in a *nix environment08:14
rekaMrGardenHoseMan: ubotu sent you a pm08:14
Razor-XDr_Willis: twin is awesome08:14
MrGardenHoseManjust got it :D08:14
MrGardenHoseManthx thx08:14
Razor-Xmy personally compiled Eterm has native twin support (Etwin)08:14
_frank!tell _frank about fixres08:14
Dr_WillisRazor-X,  been twiddling with it on and off for years.. but oddly - its messed up  on this box's console. :(08:14
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Razor-Xniiiiiice Eterm08:15
Razor-Xyou can see a picture of my desktop/Eterm/emacs if you people wish08:15
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Razor-Xthey're interchangeable, in my book08:15
rekaGlendos: imho, i'd just use the repo version, and use a pen/texta to label the CD. :)  sounds like the latest one isn't up to scratch.08:15
IIIEarsRazor-X - stroking your eterm online is likely illegal in six states. - j/k08:16
NetEchoRazor-X I'll be sure to check Eterm out08:16
dgimusiquereka, i tried everything you told me... there is no way i can login into root... it tells me i'm not allowed to login as admin at the login screen08:16
Razor-XNetEcho: do it ;)08:16
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Razor-XIIIEars: hahaha08:16
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Glendosreka, yes but means I have made a compromise for a trivial feature !! I must find a solution instead of lowering my standards!08:16
rekaok people, how do you login as root?08:16
reka(for dgimusique )08:17
arureka: dont! :)08:17
Agrajagreka: sudo08:17
Razor-Xit does what rxvt does, with background images and transparency all with half the resources of rxvt ;)08:17
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo08:17
anacronreka: sudo -s08:17
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dgimusiquei can't sudo 'Cause it says i'm not in the sudo list!08:17
dgimusiqueand i'm the only user!08:17
rekahe gets this: 'dgimusique is not in the sudoers file' when trying to open synaptic08:17
Razor-Xthen edit the sudo list08:17
rekahe did08:17
dgimusiquei can'T open the sudo list08:18
Razor-Xdgimusique: then get a boot floppy08:18
arudid he use the right password?08:18
highvoltageyou need sudo to edit the sudo list :)08:18
Razor-Xand edit it from there08:18
Razor-Xhighvoltage: I understand that08:18
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dgimusiquelol my floppy drive doesn't work...08:18
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Razor-Xdgimusique: then take a fscking live cd08:18
The_VoxI still don't understand why some people end up not being in the sudo list when they install08:18
IIIEarsdgimusique - you can always throw down with your uruly os - boot the live cd create some working dirs and edit the fscking sudoer thang08:19
Razor-XThe_Vox: problems like that make sudo a tad bit unreliable08:19
rekaThe_Vox: i didn't realise it was a common problem08:19
anacronThe_Vox: i managed to do that with server installing somehow08:19
hacked`guys, im resizing one of my windows partitions and creating a partition for linux with partition magic, but partition magic is asking me what partition type i want to set it as? unformatted, ext2, ext3 ?08:19
Lone_Strikerneed help; just install ubuntu, everything works great but no sound at all, no music; computer is a Compaq Presario 5280; tried configuring the sound like it says on the guide online, still don't work; any suggestions would be accepted.08:19
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The_Voxreka: it's the 3rd user I've seen with that problem since I started coming here a week ago08:19
rekahacked`: what for?  install? or just for data?08:19
Razor-Xhacked`: for your reference, there is no ``Linux'' partition name ;)08:19
La_PaRCahacked`, I would go with unformatted08:19
Razor-Xchoose ext308:19
Razor-Xand also, make some swap space08:20
Razor-Xhow much RAM ya got?08:20
The_VoxRazor-X: I don't think it's a sudo problem...it's more like a corner case getting past the installer08:20
aruhacked`: format the entire thing, even the windows portion :)08:20
Fidelioanybody with some knowledge of dhcp3-client?08:20
dbernar1_and dont forget to wash your hands before eating.08:20
Razor-XThe_Vox: regardless, that makes sudo unreliable08:20
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Trackilizeris there a GUI that can be used to install .deb, .rpm, .tarballs???08:20
anacronwhat's the difference between ext2 and 3?08:20
rekaThe_Vox: it's the first for me.08:20
Razor-XThe_Vox: by the way, you use nethack?08:20
Lone_Strikerany suggestions?08:20
Razor-Xanacron: ext3 is a journaled fs08:20
aruTrackilizer: what are you installing?08:20
dbernar1_get some ice for Razor-X08:20
dbernar1_i say08:20
The_VoxRazor-X: it makes sudo unreliable *on ubuntu* :) sudo rocks, tho.08:20
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Razor-XTrackilizer: tar -xvzf isn't _that_ hard08:20
Trackilizeri know08:21
_frankTrackilizer: synaptic does .deb08:21
The_Voxreka: I read my logs <chuckle> :)08:21
Razor-XThe_Vox: i've broken into the habit of sudo'ing nowadays08:21
Lone_Strikerany suggestions?08:21
hacked`i'll be installing ubuntu on that parition08:21
Razor-XI used to use su all the time, 'afore08:21
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Trackilizeri wanna have a GUI to install source files08:21
The_VoxRazor-X: and no, I don't nethack...haven't done that in a long long while08:21
Razor-XI've had enough GUI for today, especially Windows GUI08:21
Razor-XThe_Vox: gah!08:21
rekaThe_Vox: sad...i do that too. :)08:21
aruTrackilizer: did you see if there is a package with Synaptic?08:21
Razor-XI would like to know the Dvorak binds you use08:21
Lone_Strikerany of you guys have problem with sounds?08:21
anacroni thing doom-roguelike is better than nethack08:21
Razor-Xaru: if you have Ark, that should do archives real well08:22
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aruLone_Striker: just loud ones08:22
The_Voxreka: hehehe08:22
Razor-XLone_Striker: depends08:22
aruRazor-X: you are not allowed to talk to me08:22
_frankTrackilizer: I'm pretty sure that doesn't exist08:22
Lone_Strikeri have got no sounds08:22
Trackilizerubuntu is the only distro that simply "works"08:22
The_VoxRazor-X: oh! last time I played nethack was pre-dvorak :)08:22
Razor-Xaru: hmmmmm?08:22
Razor-Xerrr, not aru08:22
Razor-XTrackilizer: try ark08:22
Razor-XThe_Vox: gah!08:22
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Lone_Strikerany suggestions for making the sound work08:22
rekaLone_Striker: keep coming back here until crimsun shows up....he's the resident sound guru08:22
Razor-XI'm one of the few 15 year old Dvorak nethack emacs users, I think ;)08:22
IIIEarsRazor-X - Fix windows? - bah, salvage the files you can and reinstall from a disk image file. - all tweaks patches updates in place.08:22
Razor-Xor anywhere around that age, hah08:22
The_VoxRazor-X: hehehe08:23
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Razor-XIIIEars: my dad hates Linux, and the like08:23
NetEchoTrackilizer Slackware works quite well too08:23
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Razor-XNetEcho: HAHAHAHAHAHA08:23
Lone_Strikercrimsun huh?? i could wait.08:23
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aruTrackilizer: I would try using Synaptic and seeing if there is a package available of your mystery software08:23
Lone_Strikerthanks, i could wait08:23
NetEchoRazor-X I take it you've had problems?08:23
Razor-Xdon't reccomend Slack to someone why needs GUI for tar files, there's a skill level needed for Slack XD08:23
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NetEchoI've used Slackware since 8.108:23
Razor-XTrackilizer: like I said, try Ark08:23
Lone_Strikeris slackware good?08:23
rekaLone_Striker: you probably have to...imho, not many people in here know of fixes08:23
NetEchoit was my first distro lol08:23
Razor-XNetEcho: Slackware kicks ass, definitely08:23
aruNetEcho: I did slack 3 installs over a 14.4 modem08:24
Trackilizerill try it08:24
NetEchoI used Redhat for 10 minutes lol08:24
Razor-Xewwww, that hat tastes funny08:24
RichardCi need to install the package xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk08:24
Lone_Strikeri think i try slackware also.  i could wait for the sound guru08:24
RichardCit is from the debian repository08:24
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aruwe better calm down before they send us to #ubuntu-offtopic08:24
NetEchoRazor-X why do you think I switched08:24
Lone_Strikerthanks though guys or gals08:24
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hondjeGoogle moon rocks08:24
Razor-XNetEcho: heh08:24
IIIEarsNetEcho - lucky you. - RH has always been. erm "fun"08:24
NetEchoal you really need to remember is install to MBR and startx08:24
Trackilizerwhere can Ark be found?08:24
Razor-XTrackilizer: it's probably in the repos08:24
RichardCdoes anyone know of a ubuntu deb of this package?08:24
Trackilizerwill have to wait till i get home to install it anyways08:24
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RichardCi need it to get full-speed in some of my games, mainly zsnes08:25
aruTrackilizer: Applications > Accessories >Archive Manager08:25
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ubuntudriftfast1is it possible for the irc to be considered an securtiy threat? I doubt it , but Im fresh off a windows and am paranoid08:25
IIIEarsUbuntu by RH would be 4 CDs Ugh!08:25
Trackilizerthanks for that08:25
Trackilizerwill try as soon as i get home08:25
aruwould be easier if you searched synaptic for the package08:25
Razor-Xubuntudriftfast1: of course it can, in the sense of privacy08:25
Razor-XIRC is a plain-text protocol08:25
Lone_Strikersound experts; need help; waiting for crimsum or anyone who knows about sound problem08:26
Razor-Xeverything you are transmitting right now, to this channel, can be sniffed and dumped with ease08:26
ubuntudriftfast1razor-x by that do you mean that everyone can see what your typing ? :)08:26
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rekaRichardC: mixing debian with ubuntu is a no-no, iirc08:26
The_Voxubuntudriftfast1: like anything else, if the program has holes, it is a security problem...if the program doesn't have holes, it isn't a security problem.08:26
Razor-Xit can be sniffed anywhere along the chain, as long as traffic isn't encrypted, which I don't think freenode's servers do08:26
IIIEarsRazor-X - anyone can get your ip also. :/08:26
RichardCreka: that is exactly what i was thinking.  do you know of a place i can get that package for ubuntu?08:26
Razor-Xubuntudriftfast1: no, by that, I mean, if you post anything private using IRC, then someone can sniff your data stream08:26
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hondjefreenode does08:26
Razor-Xand yeah, they can obtain your IP too08:26
hondjewell, it CAN08:26
ubuntudriftfast1alright, well are daemons or services whateva there called a vuln on linux?08:27
ubuntudriftfast1is there any? Or should I just look for updates?08:27
Razor-Xubuntudriftfast1: you sound like a Windows user, for user ;)08:27
Lone_Strikersound problem; still waiting08:27
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Razor-Xfor a second here, how many people hack Linux boxes?08:27
Razor-XLone_Striker: what _type_ of sound problem?08:27
IIIEarsIf you are "Really" paranoid - grab an inexpensive shell account somwhere and proxy to IRC - O_008:27
Lone_Strikerno sound at all08:27
Aegir^So ubuntudriftfast1, who did you piss off who's out to get your server?08:28
rekaRichardC: i can see a xlibmesa-dri package in the ubuntu repos, but not the one you stated.  what does it do exactly?08:28
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hondjeIt's a bit irresponsible not to pen test yourself08:28
Lone_Strikerno music, sound, etc.08:28
Razor-XIIIEars: I do that all the time08:28
Razor-Xnot paranoia though08:28
Lone_Strikereverything works great though08:28
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Razor-XIIIEars: it's called the ``Windows'' mentality08:28
ubuntudriftfast1razor-x does ubuntu have any know vulns?08:28
Razor-Xubuntudriftfast1: there are no RPC errors, sorry ;)08:28
Razor-Xmost known vulnerabilities are patched08:29
ubuntudriftfast1I didnt piss off anyone, what do you mean?08:29
Razor-Xand also, think of this08:29
Razor-Xhow many people hack Linux boxes08:29
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hondjea lot, Razor-X08:29
IIIEarsRazor-X - Hack me a twenty five minute reinstall - no sweat. no #'s or personal info.08:29
hondjeno one wants your #s or personal info08:29
hondjethey want your internet connection08:29
Razor-Xhondje: I mean hack the box itself08:29
Lone_Strikersound problem; still waiting08:29
IIIEarsHeh - windows is a ten CD set install that takes 2+ hours to reinstall08:30
ubuntudriftfast1I always said that linux is more reliable but being open source, i figured it would be easier to get hacked08:30
hondjeit's not easier to get hacked unless you're stupid08:30
Madpilotyeah, but it's so much easier to zombie an XP box, if you want to 'borrow' someone's internet connection...08:30
Razor-Xubuntudriftfast1: but, there's a key reason why hackers don't08:30
Dr_Willishmm.. i think that logic is faulty08:30
highvoltageubuntudriftfast1: quite the oposite is true.08:30
ubuntudriftfast1IIIEars 25 min for reinstall if you do repair08:30
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Razor-Xbecause the majority of the Linux users have securer networks08:30
highvoltageit's more difficult to hack, being open source. vulnarabilities are fixed quicker.08:30
Razor-Xand the majority of the users of the world _use_ Windows08:30
ubuntudriftfast135 min for full ntfs08:30
hondjebut it's quite easy to get yourself owned pushing buttons, far easier than windows08:30
highvoltage(and found quicker)08:30
RichardCreka: im not sure, however, it fixes the same problem i am having for all debian systems.08:31
Lone_Strikerstill waiting; no sound problem08:31
IIIEarsnah - i just fdisk and throw in the CD08:31
Razor-Xhondje: it's a very effective intelligence leveller08:31
hondjeper capita, linux is owned as much as windows, at least from what I've seen08:31
ubuntudriftfast1yea, im on live cd right now so if i mess anything up its all good08:31
hondjeno it's not08:31
Razor-Xhondje: not a chance, for the average home user, Linux is much less common08:32
ubuntudriftfast1is there a back up program that comes with linux?08:32
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Dr_Willisseveral :P08:32
hondjeYes, but there are millions of webservers running linux, file servers, dns, etc etc08:32
ubuntudriftfast1and how do you find which programs will work on your distro08:32
Dr_Willisand many more you can download.08:32
Lone_Strikersound problem; still waiting08:32
hondjelinux is quite often owned08:32
IIIEarshondje - true - if the hackers are really aiming at your machine you are done. - they hacked spreadfirefox last week a large bank 3 weeks ago. - those companies have huge security budgets08:32
hondjecount the newbies coming in asking simple apache questions08:32
ubuntudriftfast1iiiears yea i did a report on the mozilla hacking08:33
hondjeor people running crap like awstats on their little sites, etc08:33
Razor-Xif somene's really after me, then, hell, get me ;)08:33
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Razor-XI have almost nothing of worth, anyways08:33
Lone_Strikersound problem; still waiting for anyone who could help08:33
ubuntudriftfast1they said it was for spam :)08:33
hondjeor even having /dev/shm mounted rw and having a webserver08:33
bob2hacking someone's desktop is harder than hacking spreadfirefox08:33
bob2since a desktop has n oservices to attack08:33
Dr_Willisgo hack hotmail. :P08:33
tankiRazor-X, not good to think like that because it's not about what you have it's about the act08:33
bob2so you need to trick the user into running something themselves, or find a flaw in the kernel tcp/ip stack08:33
ubuntudriftfast1are all services on linux called daemons08:33
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: more or less08:34
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Razor-Xtanki: well, I like to think my network's pretty secure08:34
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Lone_Strikersound problem; still waiting08:34
bob2it depends how you define "service"08:34
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Madpilotdeamons sounds cooler than 'services'... ;)08:34
Razor-Xbut if you have about 30 people looking through my stuff, making router dumps, pinging ports, etc., then I know i've lost08:34
Dr_Willisisent a daemon a specific kind of program that automaticially spawns to the background.08:34
hondjeor wait for them to say 'hey, running a ftpd sounds fun!'08:34
bob2Razor-X: so don\'t run vulnerable services08:34
ubuntudriftfast1yea its just im learnin windows sever 03 etc.... plus linux on top of it all so im tryin to find similaririteis08:34
Razor-Xbob2: I don't08:34
tankiRazor-X, if a box is compromised and there's nothing worth stealing, they dont just leave.. they find other uses for it, maybe use it to attack someone else08:35
Razor-XI have almost any vulnerable port stealthed08:35
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Razor-Xtanki: if they take my box, I yank the cord08:35
hondje'stealthing' is pointless08:35
IIIEarsRazor-X - not too sure IRC is secure - direct chat is available no?08:35
tankiRazor-X, i know i'm just speaking in general terms08:35
Razor-Xthere's no defense against that08:35
bob2Dr_Willis: sorta, yeah; one definition might be something that calls the daemon() function, which does that08:35
bob2Razor-X: "stealthing" gains you no security08:35
Razor-Xor, I just change my IP08:35
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Lone_Strikerno sound problem; waiting08:35
Razor-XLone_Striker: understand, we aren't paid08:36
ubuntudriftfast1 raxor-x will ubuntu prepare me for a field in unix , or will i need to use all the distros?08:36
Razor-Xso, when you pay us, you can rant08:36
IIIEarsbufferoverflows not password hacks are the weak spot.08:36
Razor-Xtill then shut up and wait08:36
Lone_Strikeri know; just need help08:36
Razor-XLone_Striker: no sound at all?08:36
bob2IIIEars: that still requires exposed vulnerable services08:36
Razor-Xwhat sound card?08:36
Razor-Xand also, paste the output of ps -e in pastebin08:36
Lone_Strikeronboard on a Compaq Presario 528008:37
ubuntudriftfast1IIIEars - could you write a script so whenever a buffer overflow occurs, you could counterstrike?08:37
Razor-Xthat's probably why08:37
bob2Lone_Striker: your last 10 lines have all been "sound problem; still waiting", which is higly ineffective08:37
Razor-XI think your sound card has real crappy linux support08:37
Lone_Strikerwhat's effective then08:37
tankirazor, dont forget offtopic heh08:37
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: how do you detect a buffer overflow?  how do you know who was responsible?08:37
tankimust learn to multitask08:37
bob2Lone_Striker: asking your question sensibly; including details of what isn't working, what is, and what you've tried08:37
Razor-XI'm pretty crappy at ``multitasking''08:37
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bob2Lone_Striker: also trying the mailing list would be a good idea08:37
ubuntudriftfast1dont know, im just learning. Maybe set a limit in the web browser08:38
Razor-Xcomes with those hormones I hear08:38
Razor-Xtold ja they're useless ;)08:38
tankiRazor-X, just odd you reply here but not there08:38
Lone_Strikeri have tried configuring like the help that's on the site but still doesn't work08:38
Razor-Xtanki: because, I see the little thingie in the bottom of my buffer, but don't bother to change buffers08:38
Dr_Willisreading about your card at  the "alsa" homepage - is a good start08:38
ubuntudriftfast1bob2 isnt the character limit like 255 or something like that. Maybe do an if then else statement?08:38
Lone_Strikeri checked the bios and no problem08:38
IIIEarstripwire and other apps are mostly useful after the damage has been done.08:38
Razor-Xubuntudriftfast1: not all buffers have a 255 limit08:38
Lone_Strikernew to linux so don't know what else to do08:39
hondjethere's always grsec, pax, selinux, etc08:39
ubuntudriftfast1give or take how many?'08:39
hondjersbac is neat08:39
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: if you could detect a buffer overflow, you'd just stop it08:39
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ubuntudriftfast1I thought they did the buffer overflow once they were already in the machine, i guess i have alot more learning to do\08:39
Razor-Xubuntudriftfast1: no, you can remote buffer overflow08:40
bob2it can be used at either time08:40
Razor-Xand while this is outdated, you can try and peruse through ``Smashing the stack for fun and profit'' if you know some C08:40
bob2remote buffer overflows are critical security issues, which don't happen very often08:40
IIIEarsubuntudriftfast1, - the next generation of processors have a "no execute bit" set in RAM that marks segemnts as data/executable. (64 bit)08:40
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bimberiLone_Striker: Hah - I was about to point Lone_Striker to  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=19639&postcount=808:40
bob2er, that's unrelated to them being 64-bit08:40
La_PaRCaIIIEars, NX is dead on arrival. Its not gonna stick.08:41
bob2and I'm pretty sure other architectures have had it for years08:41
ubuntudriftfast1just a new feature that prevents the exe on buffer overflow?08:41
IIIEarsnot perfect still a few brand new "'sploits" out for 64 bit08:41
Razor-Xalso ``Buffer Overflow Demystified''08:41
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bob2I think you mean "amd64" instead of 64-bit08:41
Razor-Xand ``IP Spoofing Demystified''08:41
bob2which is an important, if subtle, difference08:41
Razor-Xnice articles from when the internet was a free-er place08:41
IIIEarsLa_PaRCa, - yep - you have been reading a "heap" haven't you?08:41
aleksi_what mail server would you recommend for trying and learning purposes?08:41
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hondjeor use pax, tends to make overflows pointless08:42
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bob2aleksi_: postfix08:42
tankiI think it was free-er because nobody would pay lots of money for slow speeds heh08:42
La_PaRCaIIIEars, oh... subtle...08:42
Trackilizerwho uses ubuntu in thier job?08:42
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IIIEarsSubtle? - oops. - lol - not usually08:42
Trackilizerwhat for?08:42
hondjemaking pretty pictures08:43
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ubuntudriftfast1has anyone used Blade Servers08:43
hondjeor doing various pointless things with data08:43
Razor-Xwell, nowadays, articles like that are seriously taboo08:43
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hondjegraphs, charts, histograms, etc08:43
La_PaRCaIIIEars, oh sorry, I dont know the proper markup for sarcasm08:43
ubuntudriftfast1is there anything that prepares you for it?08:43
tankiyou have to give props to people who can sell linux to a wincentric supervisor, they're pretty hard to win over08:43
Razor-Xbecause most people nowadays are pricks08:43
rommeri have a couple of identical computers that i am looking to turn into a cluster using ubuntu linux, anyone have an idea on how to do this08:43
Trackilizerbut that isnt your job.. ist it?08:43
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hondjeTrackilizer: yes, that's my job08:43
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bob2ubuntudriftfast1: I don't think they're really that different to other machines08:44
PoopinClumpinrommer, it depends on what kind of cluster you want vs. what kind of cluster you need08:44
Ghetekwhere is fstab located?08:44
aleksi_know any good guide for postfix?08:44
Dr_Willistheres a great many cluster linux sites out.. and even a few cluster-linux focused disrtos.08:44
Trackilizerso you get payed for making pics?08:44
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: aside from being physically small08:44
bob2Ghetek: /etc/08:44
La_PaRCaI used to have a blade server... had to trash it... it kept killing all my daemons ;)08:44
IIIEarsmy 2 cents doesn't have any mark up value....08:44
hondjeI suppose I do stupid stuff like writing memos and going to meetings, too08:44
bob2aleksi_: I hear the o'reilly book is pretty good08:44
Ghetekbob2 thanks08:44
hondjeYes, I get paid to make pictures08:44
Razor-XO' Reilly makes good books08:44
tankibut you have to admit some of microsoft's licensing does more to advocate an alternative like linux than most loyal geeks, especially for small to medium sized businesses who can't afford it08:44
Razor-Xthe best for Linux things, IMO08:44
gijoshSilly question here.  But, how do you delete a director.  I know rm does files...08:44
La_PaRCaIIIEars, see? Thats good humor.08:44
ubuntudriftfast1bob2 will linux make the crossover to ibm easy, or is it going to be like starting from scratch?08:44
Dr_Willisrm can do that as well. :P08:44
hondjecrossing over to IBM what?08:45
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: how do you mean?  AIX?08:45
gijoshDr_Willis  Well when I tried I got the message that it's a directory..08:45
holycowtanki, not only that ....08:45
Trackilizeri read this blog the other day where a guy who always used linix went to windows xp08:45
holycow... i love the bsa organization08:45
tankiaix and xenox sitting in a tree..08:45
Trackilizerhe couldnt work with it08:45
Dr_Willisor rmdir, or rm -rf08:45
hondjeThe fundamentals are the same08:45
holycowi wish they would do like weekly raids08:45
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: basic unix usage is pretty standard, but AIX has some of it's own quirks08:45
gijoshDr_Willis Thanks man08:45
Trackilizercause he had to look for all his apps online08:45
holycowthat would REALLY make open source a very attractive proposition08:45
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: if you expect to admin AIX boxes, you'll want an AIX-specific book, or an AIX person to help you08:45
Trackilizerhe was used to "apt-get"08:45
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ubuntudriftfast1bob2 i just want to be prepared when i get into the industry, and dont want to leave anything out08:46
tankiholycow, open source yeah but not necessarily GNU08:46
Trackilizerhe left win after only 1 week08:46
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rommerPoopinClumpin: i basically want to learn more about it, going to try server web pages to start off with (they r slow computers)08:46
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La_PaRCadownload.com cant hold a candle to universe!!!08:46
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ubuntudriftfast1whats the longest a linux server has ever stayed online for ?08:47
bob2non-free software for windows, basically08:47
La_PaRCalook at the windows n00b. Let him run in the wind!08:47
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: years08:47
Razor-Xubuntudriftfast1: Linux servers have nice uptimes08:47
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: but uptime is not a useful measure of anything, except for guessing how many kernel exploits you can throw at a particular machine08:47
IIIEarsubuntulog, - no aweat - give ubuntu a try. - you will like it and have a good basic knowledge in no time. - sure beats using an unreliable windows box.08:47
ubuntudriftfast1and i can run ubuntu as server?08:47
tankii'd be scared to have an account on a box that hasn't been rebooted in years though08:47
Razor-XBSD servers have kickass fscking uptimes ;)08:47
tankiyou can't hotfix kernels08:47
Trackilizerdo you guys think there ever will be a google OS08:47
hondjethere already is08:47
Trackilizerthere is?08:48
hondjeI'm sure google has customized the hell out of their installs08:48
bob2tanki: hmm, depends08:48
bob2if it's a problem in a module, you can08:48
Razor-XTrackilizer: I don't like the concept of ``A google world''08:48
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hondjeall this software at download.com sucks08:48
Razor-Xgoogle has a nice search engine08:48
Razor-Xbut, I think it's move for uniformity is useless08:48
Ghetekhow do i list all hard drive/partitions?08:48
desrthondje; any of it free?08:48
La_PaRCaRazor-X, right on... Google is getting a wee bit scarringly big.08:48
Dr_Willishondje,  lol - and its like 90% spam/ad/demoware08:48
desrtGhetek; cat /proc/partitions08:48
hondjeas in beer?08:49
IIIEarshondje - how does google do it? - geez - even image files can trip up a server and they surf everywhere.08:49
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desrthondje; as in free08:49
Dr_WillisGhetek,  fdisk -l08:49
cathey i have a question can i changed from sarge to ubuntu?08:49
ubuntudriftfast1bob2 at what time when your modifying a linux kernal does it become a new distro? Has anyone done it on a user level or are they all major proj.?08:49
desrtDr_Willis; oo.  that's nice.08:49
hondjeIIIEars: lots of cheap distributed clients, and tons of presearching08:49
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: differences between kernels are not huge between distros08:49
hondjethey index a bizarre amount of searches in advance08:49
bob2well, they can be large, but it's not the important change08:49
bob2cat: not easily08:50
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tankibob is right as long as the distro uses a GNU kernel08:50
hondjeum, the GNU kernel is Hurd08:50
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bob2hurd would make it even easier, but you can hotfix large parts of linux08:50
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holycowtanki, good point on gnu, but not everything or everyone agrees with 100 % free software08:51
ubuntudriftfast1bob2 howabout throwing a good place to download codecs etc.... so i can watch vids08:51
rommeri have a couple of identical computers that i am looking to turn into a cluster using ubuntu linux, anyone have an idea on how to do this08:51
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holycowtanki, i'm not so sure its a good idea that everything is gnu, as much as it is a goal to strive for08:51
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:51
bob2rommer: what do you want them to do?08:51
IIIEarsAnyone see the new calition between Intel and microsoft on DRM? - techrepublic sent out an email08:51
ubuntudriftfast1bob2 Im real stoked as it is seeing how i just swtiched from a server03 with no sound. I feel like im free08:51
bob2"cluster" can mean lots of thing08:51
ubuntudriftfast1bob2 thanks08:52
IIIEarserm "coalition"08:52
Dr_Willisrommer,  check out the cluster linux info sites.. and a 'cluster' linux speficic disrto08:52
tankiholycow, yeah that's up for debate08:52
pef:] 08:52
hondjeImagine a beowulf cluster of them....08:52
MadpilotIIIEars: yeah, the built-in monitor-DRM cr*p? saw that...08:52
ColonelKernelis there openmosix for 2.6 kernels yet?08:52
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rommerbob2: spread processes over all nodes of the cluster08:52
bob2rommer: to do what?08:53
tankihurd is a wasteful step towards EROS/Vapour08:53
bob2do you mean mosix? LRI?08:53
RichardCi followed the steps here http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs for installing multimedia codecs, however i dont believe everything installed correctly.  from the System->preferences->multimedia systems selector, under the video tab, video 4 linux was set as the input source, but when i press test, i get the error: "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'Video for Linux (v4l)'"  Anyone know what to do?08:53
RichardClong post08:53
bob2tanki: no, it's a highly useful project, that a bunch of people enjoy working on08:53
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ubuntudriftfast1bob2 and everyone else, have a good night and thanks08:53
bob2RichardC: do you know waht V4L is?08:53
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: adios08:53
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RichardCbob2: nope08:53
hacked`guys, i just installed ubuntu, and it installed grub at the end, and now when my pc boots it says "grub loading stage1.5&nb