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Knowledge_desrt: Good call....good call12:00
Antinomynalioth: on windows, I used to just DL an exe file and slap it on the desktop, double click and install. Things seem a tad more complicated with Ubuntu.12:00
Knowledge_so anyone know how to do a boot splash for ubuntu?12:00
naliothAntinomy: system > admin > synaptic package manager12:00
nalioths_dogAntinomy: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:01
desrtnalioth; if you're fortunate enough to have the piece of software you want packaged by ubuntu12:01
signbarnKnowledge_: I only know how to do a splash screen on GRUB for ubuntu12:01
Knowledge_nalioth: unless you have to use tar.gz12:01
nalioths_dogAntinomy: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:01
Antinomynalioth: ok, what is that?12:01
kevinI am going to try and use wine to run a chat program from the windbloas front but am not sure how to do it yet and my desktop has suse 9.2 pro on it so I will wait for a while before I do it.12:01
Knowledge_signbarn: meaning right before it stars loading everything?12:01
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naliothAntinomy: synaptic is a frontend to apt-get, the package manager (the way we install software)12:01
Antinomyok12:02
signbarnKnowledge_: i dual boot with xp, so it gives me a choice between operating systems -- and that has a nice splash screen behind it12:02
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desrtnalioth; apt-get and synaptic are actually both front-ends to the same library12:02
hmrochanalioth, thanks, i did that but the site is down12:02
Knowledge_signbarn: yeah, I used the how to in ubuntuguide...false hopes12:02
hmrochanalioth, he doesn't have internet at home12:02
Antinomynalioth: so, when I want a certain piece of software, I locate it in the repositories and use synaptic to dl it?12:02
kevinI like synaptic, much easier thn apt-get and it you don't have to remember how to spell things12:02
desrt(namely, libapt-pkg)12:02
naliothdesrt: apt-get is the package manager, synaptic, kynaptic, aptitude, and <ugh>kpackage are all frontends for it12:03
naliothAntinomy: yes12:03
desrtnalioth; not really :)12:03
Knowledge_Antinomy: when I want to install something I search synaptic first....it really does have a lot of stuff12:03
desrtnalioth; apt-get is the same thing as synaptic12:03
Antinomynalioth: ok, so should I play around with that first?12:03
naliothdesrt: clarify with another knowledgable user, please12:03
AntinomyKnowledge_: Ok thanks - start there?12:03
desrtnamely, a front-end to libapt-pkg12:03
naliothAntinomy: yes, play with it12:03
Knowledge_Antinomy: I normally do12:04
desrtnalioth; sorry.  i thought you were12:04
hmrochanalioth, i'll try uninstalling and installing again12:04
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Knowledge_because you can't really mess things up12:04
Antinomynalioth: apt-get is a gui interface for apt-get, a program that helps you dl repositories - correct?12:04
Knowledge_with tar.gz you somewhat can12:04
hmrochanalioth, maybe that way it will put the deb file in /var/cache/apt12:04
naliothdesrt: you normally dont invoke librarys to perform things12:04
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Knowledge_unless yo'ure me12:05
desrtnalioth; right.  you have to use one of the front-ends like apt-get or synaptic12:05
naliothAntinomy: see what i wrote above to desrt12:05
desrtnalioth; and they use the library12:05
Knowledge_then you wonder why you feel like reinstalling your OS12:05
desrtand ultimately, everything calls dpkg12:05
funkyHatAntinomy, apt-get is a command line front-end to libapt-pkg, as nalioth said12:05
naliothdesrt: yes, thank you12:05
AntinomyGot it.12:05
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naliothguys, this is way complicated for new users12:06
desrtnalioth; well.. it doesn't really matter12:06
funkyHatand synaptic is a graphic front end to the same thing12:06
desrtnalioth; if you use synaptic then you don't need to care about apt or dpkg or anything else12:06
nalioththey don't give a fsck about the golforsaken librarys that run things12:06
ateveshi! i wanted to install gstreamer0.8-mad via apt, but it was not found. what do i have to add to sources.list?12:06
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desrtnalioth; it just works :)12:06
naliothdesrt: he's a brand new *nix user12:06
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naliothdesrt: he deosnt need to know the bloody C code that runs the sunuvugun12:06
Antinomy<playing with synaptic>12:06
desrtnalioth; omiting information for new users is fine... most people don't care.  providing inaccurate information isn't good, though12:07
nalioththank you12:07
Knowledge_sooo.....about that bootsplash for weakness12:08
Knowledge_anyone have any ideas/12:08
desrt:)12:08
Knowledge_lol12:08
desrtKnowledge_; i guess you'd have to load it into grub somehow12:08
Knowledge_hmm12:08
desrteither that or recompile your kernel with it :/12:08
desrtbut, obviously, it needs to have it around when it's booting... and that's the only two ways to do it12:08
Knowledge_nooooooo I've had terrible luck with those 2 words12:08
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kevinughhh I hate recompiling the kernel, takes wayyyyyy to long for this old thing lol12:08
Knowledge_recomile and kernel12:09
desrt:)12:09
Knowledge_not my favorite words in the same sentence12:09
desrthah.  i just googled12:09
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desrtfirst couple of pages i found are like "and then i recompiled my kernel..."12:09
kevinknowledge: 'nor mine lol12:09
Knowledge_man I tried doing that with my alps touchpad....it worked.....but tpconfig STILL didn't recognize my alps...and on top of that...I lost my wifi card....12:10
Knowledge_pfft....no more kernel recompiling unless I know what the commands I'm copying and pasting do12:10
Knowledge_;-)12:10
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kevinknowledge: I remember that12:10
desrtKnowledge_; a good policy, generally speaking :)12:10
=== terrex se va a ver la tele // is going to watch tv
Knowledge_yeahhh, kevin you're the one that has the same problem with the video mode being messed up, no?12:11
mumblesanyone need to restart into wi9ndows for a while12:11
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kevinnope12:11
Knowledge_oh12:11
Knowledge_wrong person12:11
Knowledge_haha12:11
kevinyup lol12:11
mumblesmight be me12:11
mumblescouse ive had video problems a few weeks back12:11
mumblesrestarting --12:12
kevinI now have iceWM running and it had spead this old laptop up a little bit12:12
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Knowledge_yeah, when my laptop shuts the screen off...and I open it...it screws up the desktop12:12
Dinhaz12:12
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Knowledge_actually...it screwes everythign12:12
Dinneed help12:12
Din[*]  Acting as MAIN12:12
Din[+]  Config loaded12:12
Din[*]  Opening listening socket at 193.77.83.28:444412:12
Din[-]  Cannot open socket (Cannot assign requested address)12:12
Dinwhat do i do12:12
supernixUptime: 6 days, 2 hours and 21 minutes12:12
desrtDin; a little context plz?12:12
supernix:)12:13
Dinrunning in untudo live cd12:13
Dinand i want to test one irc bot12:13
Knowledge_untudo?12:13
Dinbut i can-t connect12:13
jimmyhi i just aptgetted  kubuntu-desktop and my gnome is not working anymore any idea why ? ( yes i can log in with gnome-failsafe)12:13
desrtDin; what IP is 193.77...?12:13
Belutzanyone, can i make the grub looks more interesting?12:13
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Dinof mz router12:13
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naliothjimmy: specific failure point? what happens?12:13
jimmyBlissex: you can add splash images12:13
desrtDin; ok.  you can't bind to an IP on your router12:13
desrtDin; the bot needs to bind to a local socket12:14
desrtDin; and you setup port forwarding on your router12:14
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Dinok12:14
jimmynalioth: i just try to log in with gdm and i just see a brown screen12:14
jimmymouse is visible12:14
desrtso like 192.168 or whatever12:14
Dini think that i know what to do12:14
jimmyare there any gnome logs ?12:14
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funkyHatjimmy, did you accidentally uninstall gnome?12:15
Lone_Strikeris linux stable enough not to have any security sofware, if it isn't what are some that you guys are using?12:15
naliothLone_Striker: security softwar?12:15
jimmyfunkyHat: no i can log in with gnome- failsafe12:15
desrtjimmy; what is your system date/time?12:15
Lone_Strikeryeah like anti-virus and such?12:15
naliothLone_Striker: by default, your ubuntu box is a black hole on the network12:15
jimmydesrt: Wed Jul 20 00:15:41 CEST 2005 it seems to be correkt12:15
jimmys/k/c12:15
naliothLone_Striker: there  are no known virus for linux12:15
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desrtjimmy; the only time i've ever seen that happen with gnome was when the date was in the past12:16
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desrtjimmy; *shrug* :)12:16
Antinomynalioth: ok, i think i get it. Syn is basically my window to all of the updates and new apps that are available from the universe; I could also get them by going to the command line and using "apt-get"12:16
Lone_Strikernice, so is there it is not necessary to have any those of software?12:16
naliothAntinomy: yes12:16
Lone_Strikerexcellent12:16
Antinomynalioth: multi too?12:16
Lone_Strikerjust switched to linux today12:16
naliothLone_Striker: not unless you want to run everything you get via p2p thru a antivirus b4 you send it to your windows using friends12:17
naliothAntinomy: yes12:17
supernixlol linspire sells anti-virus software12:17
jimmydesrt: its on a laptop so the default ntp sync with the ubuntu time server is not working becaus inet aint set up at boot time12:17
naliothsupernix: lets not speak of linspire, they run default as root12:17
Antinomynalioth: thanks - I just DLed and installed my first app!12:17
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Lone_Strikerwell, then what are some of those softwares?12:17
desrtjimmy; it only happens if the date is older than the installed bonobo server files12:17
supernixouch12:17
desrtjimmy; so it'd have to be at least a few months off12:17
jimmyi will try to rename my .gnome folder12:18
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Lone_Strikerwhat are some p2p software that works with linux12:18
naliothLone_Striker: like what?12:18
wrtpeepsdo i need a certian lib installed to use the make command?12:18
desrtget .gnome2 and .gconf too12:18
wrtpeepsLone_Striker: limewire12:18
Lone_Strikerlimewire works with linux?12:18
naliothLone_Striker: amule, gtk-gnutella, dcgui, bittorrent12:18
naliothLone_Striker: if you enable java12:18
Lone_Strikerwhere could I get limewire?12:18
funkyHatLone_Striker, aMule, gnutella, bittorrent12:18
wrtpeepsemule too12:19
naliothwrtpeeps: install "build-essential"12:19
funkyHatgnutella uses the same network as limewire12:19
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Lone_Strikeri have been using limewire so where could i get it for linux?12:19
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funkyHatand doesn't ask you to 'upgrade to pro'12:19
naliothLone_Striker: its the same app, java apps are portable12:19
Lone_Strikeroh12:19
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vaderglad I saw that ? about security, I keep forgetting to install clamav, doing it now though12:20
Lone_Strikerso do i have to download java first or just use what comes with limewire?12:20
nalioth!java12:20
uboturumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.12:20
naliothbrb12:21
supernixI thought we just got finished saying there was no viruses for Linux so why have clamav ?12:22
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vaderI have for that all inclusive "just incase"12:22
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funkyHatsupernix, for the sake of friends running windows, you wouldn't want to accidentally forward them a virus. and ^^what he said12:22
desrtsupernix; clamav is usually run on mailservers12:22
Lone_Strikerwhat anit-virus/spyware program would you recommend if you use p2p and need to scan the files?12:22
jimmywell the renaming of the .gnome* files didnt help seems to be a system config fault12:23
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desrtsupernix; windows clients fetch mail from linux mailservers frequently12:23
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desrtsupernix; using linux doesn't magically shield all your windows boxes from viruses too....12:23
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SogniXI have installed samba and shared a few folders - but I can't seem to connect from a remote computer... what step am I missing?12:23
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vaderis that a good reason for using clamav?12:25
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Lone_Strikeris clamav a security program?12:25
vaderantivirus12:25
funkyHatLone_Striker, linux is pretty secure firewall-wise anyway, if you want some more control, firestarter is good12:26
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vaderwow! this is getting better by the day; just got an email from a DIE hard windblows customer who wants me to setup Ubuntu on his pc, Finally got the worst spyware person to listen to reason12:29
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FlyingSquirrel32does anyone know nis?12:30
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IIIEarsvader - Hey - After a dozen hours long windows rinstalls wore him down.12:30
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IIIEarslol12:30
FlyingSquirrel32anyone know ldap12:31
vaderIIIEars: uh hu, his last bill was close to 200.0012:31
ptloi have ubuntu (hoary) on my desktop machine. it isn't powered on 24 hours a day - so, when i boot it up the system runs updatedb .. which is fine by itself, but the whole system slows down then :) is there a (nice) way to disable this?12:31
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admrl_can anyone help me w/ printer drivers my parents were using a dell printer and i couldnt get it working w/ ubuntu so i switched to an old DeskJet 722C and it like cuts out half way thru printing something sometimes and i need to restart the computer and it wont print in color12:33
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IIIEarsNot even scheduled backups using disk imaging will keep a windows machine safe. - too many hacks out there.12:34
vaderright you are IIIEars12:34
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admrl_can no one help me..?12:35
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vaderI make one image of the windows boxes, if they add to it, they will have to re-add when I am done12:36
vaderadmrl: i know nothing of printing in Linux... sorry12:36
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admrl_do you know where i could go to find out12:36
admrl_ive spent HOURS on google lol12:37
vaderhere: they just needto see the question again probly12:37
PlanarPlatypusadmrl_, this being the buggy HP Deskjet 722C12:37
admrl_im notgoing to keep asking since its such a long question12:37
vaderthis is a good group and will do what they can to help12:37
admrl_we used to use it w/ a 98 box and it worked fine12:38
admrl_it has to be the driver12:38
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PlanarPlatypusadmrl_, which driver is it using?12:38
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vaderbbiab need to help with dinner12:38
admrl_ummm one second12:39
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admrl_HP Deskjet 722C Foomatic/pnm2ppa12:40
aikendrumI have an old Chicony lappy I wanna put Ubuntu onto, but I cant boot from cd....Any ideas of a boot disk guys..? When i put windoze on it , the only boot floopy that worked was the Xp ones....12:40
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admrl_aikendrum have you checked your bios12:40
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admrl_so u know its bootable12:40
admrl_well you are booting from the cdrom12:40
aikendrumyeah, no mention of the pcmcia cd till windows :-(12:40
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esierrai have a problem with my fonts12:41
Lone_Strikerhow do you install java on ubuntu?12:41
keknehvHello... I know this isn't really an ubuntu question, but is there a distribution of linux that would run passably on a 486? (66Mhz)12:41
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Wckdkl0wnhow to i unzip a tar.gz file?12:41
keknehvUse file roller12:41
keknehvOr gzip212:41
ptloWckdkl0wn: in shell: tar xvzf file.tar.gz12:42
bockmanWckdkl0wn, on terminal: tar -xvzf whatever.tar.gz12:42
admrl_in kde you can just right click on it12:42
admrl_and click unzip12:42
jimmydesrt: it is really strange i can log into gnome with kdm but not with gdm :)12:42
Wckdkl0wnty12:42
keknehvAh, there you go12:42
funkyHatLone_Striker,12:42
funkyHat!java12:42
ubotu[java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.12:42
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keknehvI knew it was something >_<12:42
ptloWckdkl0wn: the switches mean: x (extract), v (verbosely), z (zipped by gz), f (file named): file.tar.gz12:42
ptloWckdkl0wn: other notable switch for tar is 'c' (create) which is used to create *new* archives12:42
esierramy fonts look ugly in a lcd12:43
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Lone_Strikerwhat's the difference between linux rpm and linux?12:43
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PlanarPlatypusadmrl_, interesting, linuxprinting.org lists it as working perfectly.  You say it won't print in color and it cuts out half way through printing12:43
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bockmanptlo, don't forget j which unzips bzip2 archives12:43
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ptlobockman, *nod*12:43
PlanarPlatypusdo you mean stops half way through a page or mid larger print run?12:43
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keknehvLone_Stricker: An rpm is a specific package management tool12:43
keknehvLone_striker: Which is used in Red Hat and Mandrake (among other) distributions.12:44
IIIEarsLone_Striker - Do you need to install an RPM - "alien" will do it.12:44
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fred__hello12:44
esierraanyone ?12:44
fred__esierra?12:45
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fred__how are you12:45
esierrayes12:45
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Lone_Strikerwhat is rpm?12:45
esierrai need help with my fonts12:45
fred__rpm is paquet for mandrake12:45
funkyHatLone_Striker, rpm is similar to deb12:45
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funkyHatit is a package12:45
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fred__yeap12:45
funkyHatstands for redhat package manager12:45
Wckdkl0wnhow do i install xchat plugins?12:46
Lone_Strikerthanks12:46
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ex-parrothelp.... I seem to have horribly broken my Ubuntu install12:46
funkyHatif you need to install one, use alien -i foo instead of dpkg -i foo12:46
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IIIEarse3x-parr, - what is your question? - how can we help?12:47
ateveswhat RSS reader do you use?12:47
ex-parrotI was messing about with theming and XFCE, and themes stopped working mysteriously12:47
ex-parrotnow everything has the default GTK theme, and half my apps refuse to load12:47
cut0ffateves I'm wondering the same12:47
munkiAnyone had any luck with AverTV E500 TV-Card +Tuner in ubuntu ?12:48
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atevesi just found straw for gnome12:48
funkyHatWckdkl0wn, where are the plugins you want to install?12:48
ex-parrotwhen I load the program for selecting UI I get a flash of theming on the system tray then nothing12:48
Wckdkl0wnon desktop i just untared the file12:48
tuxhagenLone Stricker: rpm is a package management concept created by the redhat disribution.each package contains binairy files and config infos, documentation an infos about dependencies or conflicts to/with other packages, nearly similar to deb (created by debian12:48
IIIEarsex-parrot - there is no doubt a better way than using synaptic to reinstall XFCE4 but, thats what i would do.12:48
ex-parrotIIIEars, it affects Gnome too though12:48
cut0ffwhat's the best RSS reader?12:48
desrtjimmy; hah.12:49
desrtjimmy; that's pretty special :)12:49
Burgundaviacut0ff, liferea and blam are quite popular and work well12:49
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cut0ffBurgundavia thanks mate12:49
ex-parrotI'm going to try making a new username12:49
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atevesi'll check liferea now12:50
mumbleshow do i connect to a server via ssh ?12:50
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flipymumbles: ssh ip12:51
funkyHatmumbles, # ssh ip12:51
mumblesive tired ssh -d 1000 user@doname.net12:51
cafuegoor ssh user@host (if you have a different remote username)12:51
mumblesi have a starnge port12:51
mumblesits for my eggdrop :p12:51
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ex-parrotevidently it's a problem with just my username12:52
cafuegossh -p 1000 user@host12:52
herzimumbles: you configure your eggrop via ssh?12:52
funkyHatmumbles, #ssh -D 1000 -l user domain.net12:52
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mumbleserm12:52
mumblesops12:52
mumblesgood point Heart_12:52
mumblesherzi, even12:52
mumblestellnet :p12:52
herziyep12:52
herzior ctcp chat12:53
mumblesbut i needed ssh help anyway12:53
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flipyis there any way to uninstall a package without all the ncurses?12:55
flipyI've got a problem with drupal, which won't unistall without first asking the user and pass for mysql, which is not installed12:55
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IIIEarsDoes SSH need RAW socket support in XP? - couldn't get it to work for file transfers. (turned off raw socket support in XP.)12:56
cafuegoflipy: That means it not properly installed yet to begin with.12:56
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cafuegoflipy: You can remove the drupal.postinst file from /var/lib/dpkg/info, then remove drupal.12:56
flipycafuego: ok thanks, that's what I was looking for!!!12:56
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flipycafuego: can I remove anything that relates to drupal?12:57
cafuegoflipy: such as?12:58
hamsterhi there - I have a Synaptic Package Manager problem. When I 'Apply' I am asked to insert installation CD. I do insert in CDROM and I get the message 'W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog'12:58
mumblesto used to puties easy setup12:58
mumbleswah12:58
flipy.list .conffiles .preinst .templates .config .md5sums .postrm12:58
mumbleslaggy lag lag lag?12:58
cafuegoflipy: No, just postinst12:58
cafuegoflipy: The rest will be removeed when you uninstall drupal12:59
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flipycafuego: it pops up the ncurses stuff01:00
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cafuegoflipy: Naugty. Can you add 'exit 0' as line 2 in drupal.preinst ?01:01
IIIEarsthe spreadfirefox site was hacked last week (sql/drupal)01:01
cafuegoflipy: if it still does it then, also add it in the prerm01:01
Lone_Strikerhelp, i just install ubuntu, everything worked except there is not soud in general and when you play music?01:01
flipyok01:01
flipythanks a lot01:02
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IIIEarsLone_Striker - Cuz' i'm new i needed a gui "cheat" installed XMMS to give graphical access to sound configuration01:03
flipystill asks it01:03
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cafuegoflipy: Are you sure it's drupal doing it?01:03
flipyyes01:03
flipygonna change drupal.prerm01:04
A[D] minSGUYS I have dpkg: error processing gaim-pt_1.3.2-1_i386.deb (--install):01:04
A[D] minS trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/gaim', which is also in package gaim01:04
cafuegoodd though, prerm shouldn't ask config questions...01:04
A[D] minSwhat i can do to install this package01:04
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cafuegoA[D] minS: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/gaim-pt_1.3.2-1_i386.deb01:05
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cafuegoA[D] minS: (at the shell, via sudo)01:05
flipycafuego: done. i've modified .postrm01:05
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nekrataalhey01:06
cafuegoflipy: Did that stop it asking the questions?01:06
nekrataali have a question01:06
flipyyes01:06
Lone_Strikerwhat is the XMMS01:06
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cafuegoLone_Striker: xmms is a media player (like winamp)01:06
nekrataalwhen i installed ubuntu i made no partition on the hard drive, but now i need to partition it, is there any way to do this without loosing ubuntu?01:06
cafuegoused to be called linamp. There's also beep-media-player - which is based on xmms.01:06
Lone_Strikerit is one of the package huh, i see it01:06
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MIK3MANcan someone plz tell me if ubuntu has a firewall system and how to disable it to allow traffic to pass through01:07
flipythanks a lot cafuego, i've been with this for almost a week01:07
cafuegoflipy: :-)01:07
Lone_Strikerwhat do you do after you install it?01:07
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naliothMIK3MAN: all linux have iptables, you can read this for some more info http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13001:07
LasseLMIK3MAN, i don't think there is a firewall on by default01:07
Quest-Masterhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=262544#post26254401:08
cafuegoLone_Striker: You run it.01:08
funkyHatnekrataal, yes, it's possible, but not from inside ubuntu (the partition you are shrinking can't be mounted)01:08
naliothMIK3MAN: LasseL is correct, by default your system is open to the world01:08
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cafuegoLone_Striker: It should be in Applications -> Multimedia01:08
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Lone_Strikerwould it work; it is installing now01:08
naliothcafuego: may i PM you?01:08
cafuegonalioth: Do yer worst01:08
Lone_Strikersince in general i have not sound01:08
nekrataalfunkyHat, how?01:08
nekrataalfunkyHat, a bootable disk?01:09
cafuegoLone_Striker: No reason it wouldn't, provided Linux supports your sound card.01:09
MIK3MANnalioth: thanks, I have my bittornado up and running, but I am firewalled and I am sure that I have the proper ports forwarded on my router01:09
overladesomeone know how execute Kguitar under gnome (sorry for my english) ?01:09
naliothcafuego: i ask now b/c i've PMd you b4 and was ignored, so i'm giving a heads-up this time01:09
MIK3MANnalioth: I'll check out the ip tables01:09
funkyHatnekrataal, yes i think you could use an ubuntu bootable disk01:09
naliothMIK3MAN: i find port forwarding a pita, i'd DMZ your whole ubuntu box01:09
LasseLLone_Striker, did you try alsamixer ?01:09
Lone_Strikeryou sure it supports the compaq presario 5280 onboard soundcard01:09
cafuegonalioth: I'm often online but afk and/or auto-ignore non-verified users.01:10
Lone_Strikerwhat's alsamixer?01:10
funkyHatguys, can you install packages on-the-fly on ubuntu live CD?01:10
naliothfunkyHat: yes you can01:10
nekrataalfunkyHat, ok, ill see what i can do01:10
LasseLLone_Striker, a program where you can adjust the volume01:10
funkyHatnekrataal, boot to the live cd, and install gparted01:10
MIK3MANnalioth: hmm, never thought about that, do you support DMZ, I mean have you had any security issues?01:10
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Lone_Strikerlet me see01:11
naliothMIK3MAN: if all you are running is bittornado, you have no vulnerabilitys that i know of01:11
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nekrataalok01:12
HilferdWE IS LUSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!WE IS LUSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!WE IS LUSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!WE IS LUSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!WE IS LUSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!01:12
desrtHilferd; i agree.01:12
funkyHatlmao01:12
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Hilferddesrt IT'S GOOD!01:12
Lone_Strikerwhere is alsamixer?01:12
MIK3MANnalioth: Im going to try that then thanks, but I still think I have to browse those IP tables cause I know the proper ports are forwarded01:12
Lone_Strikeris it one of the packages?01:12
desrtHilferd; go join #lusers and talk to all 0 of your friends about it01:12
nekrataalcan it be installed without mount the hard drive01:12
desrtLone_Striker; hm.  /usr/bin? :)01:13
funkyHatnekrataal, yes01:13
desrtLone_Striker; it's part of ubuntu-base, so it should always be installed01:13
desrteven on server01:13
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naliothMIK3MAN: i dont think you should bother with iptables01:13
funkyHatnekrataal, it will be gone when you reboot though obviously01:13
naliothMIK3MAN: i'd check your router, instead01:13
Hilferddesrt OK01:13
Lone_Strikerhow do I acccess it then01:14
AzmodanI just installed Ubuntu on a new machine and I got a problem.  The screen turns blank when it should start gdm and writes "sync off-limit".  The LiveCD do likewise.  Any clue ?01:14
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ateveswhen will breezy be released?01:14
desrtateves; early october01:14
atevesdesrt: thx01:14
paxAzmodan: /etc/X11/xorg.conf correct your sync01:14
MIK3MANnalioth: I will just try DMZ, standby01:14
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Azmodanpax: I do I do it ?01:15
HilferdRUSSIA SMILE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:15
paxAzmodan: it's not as hard as you might think. just bacl the conf file01:15
cavediverAnyone good at tv-out and Nvidia ? I have an annoying problem. The size of the disktop is crazy on my tv.01:15
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desrtHilferd; if you upgraded from your C64 you could get a keyboard capable of both upper- *and* lower-case letters01:16
MIK3MANnalioth: Im gonna send you a link hold on01:16
Azmodanpax: Ok, I get it.  Thanks01:16
A[D] minSGLib 2.0 is required to build Gaim; so whats da name of this packlage?01:16
desrtA[D] minS; apt-get build-dep gaim01:17
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desrtA[D] minS; this will install everything required to build gaim for youirself01:17
Hilferddesrt WAT ARE YOU WOANT?01:17
A[D] minSdesrt, i want to isnatall Glib not gaim01:17
desrtA[D] minS; why?01:17
Lone_Strikeri see it, I will try to open it01:18
mumblessigh01:18
MIK3MANnalioth: you have PM off?01:18
naliothMIK3MAN: read your status window01:18
A[D] minScause i want to install it01:18
desrtA[D] minS; there are 3 different glib packages depending on what you want to do01:18
mumblesgot to go into london latertoday- hayes  to westminster01:18
A[D] minSdesrt, am compiling gaim support paltalk got it?01:18
Lone_Strikeri see alsamixer01:18
desrtA[D] minS; got it01:18
Lone_Strikerhow do you use it01:18
A[D] minSnow?01:18
desrtA[D] minS; now, type sudo apt-get build-dep gaim01:18
A[D] minSloooooool ok01:18
A[D] minSthx desrt01:18
desrtnp.01:18
Lone_Strikerit says executable but when i press it, nothing happens01:19
desrtA[D] minS; build-dep will install all of the development libraries you need to build a package for yourself01:19
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desrtA[D] minS; including glib and all the others01:19
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cavediverNoone have the same problem with Nvidia tv-out, that only half the desktop shows on your TV ?01:20
cavediverOr have had.01:20
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flipyis there any way to know if a package is installed following a pattern?01:21
vladuz976does anybody know where the "~"home key is on dvorak?01:21
MIK3MANnalioth: xchat is different than mirc, I didnt whois you, anyways I guess I will just paste the link in the chan. Here is whats going on... I have bittornado up and running on ubuntu. I chose bittornado because of the advanced features so that I know what is going on with the trackers and stuff. If you are fimiliar with bittornado you will know that a "yellow" light means that you are being firewalled or have port problems. Here comes th01:22
MIK3MANe link...01:22
desrtvladuz976; same place as qwerty01:22
Antinomyanyone want to help a n00b with his first tar?01:22
desrtvladuz976; oh.  you're .uk, right?01:22
cafuegoflipy: dpkg -l | [e] grep <foo>01:22
flipythanks cafuego01:22
desrtshift + it's top-left key01:22
desrtlike, the weird -\ symbol01:22
vladuz976desrt: oh so that is one difference betweenn us and uk01:22
desrtvladuz976; ya01:22
desrtin US it's ` / ~01:22
naliothAntinomy: open a terminal01:22
MIK3MANthis forum has a test .torrent file that gives you a reading01:22
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MIK3MANhttp://forums.degreez.net/viewtopic.php?t=1457&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=001:23
desrtinstead of 01:23
Antinomynalioth: ok01:23
Antinomynalioth done01:23
naliothAntinomy: go to the dir where the tar in question resides01:23
Antinomyok one sec01:23
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vladuz976desrt: i am getting confused and i don't get that symbol01:23
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desrtvladuz976; ah.. i thought that key on .uk keyboards was the not symbol01:24
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Antinomynalioth ok done01:24
MIK3MANnalioth: even with my system on DMZ I am still getting a message saying that I am firewalled or my ports are not configured01:24
naliothAntinomy: what kind of tar is it?01:24
Antinomynalioth .gz01:24
mumblesto bed i go01:24
MIK3MANnalioth: we can rule out ports if I am DMZ01:24
vladuz976desrt: i don't get it with any combo. that is an important key01:24
vladuz976shoot01:24
flipyis there any package for drupal 4.6.2?01:24
A[D] minSdesrt, do u know which package required for /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6:01:25
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naliothMIK3MAN: i believe you should research your router settings, b/c if you havent fiddled with your box's settings, that's where the problem lies01:25
desrtvladuz976; very odd01:25
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nitinshantharamguys im getting error: method execution failed \_sb_.bat1._bst every 5 sec on m acer ferrari 4000 laptop01:25
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nitinshantharamits an ACPI-1138 error01:25
naliothAntinomy: your first tar.gz type "tar xvzf filename.tar.gz"01:25
desrtA[D] minS; grep /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list01:25
vladuz976desrt: so you press the left shift key plus the top most left key?01:25
naliothAntinomy: and when that is done, type "man tar"01:25
desrtvladuz976; yes01:25
desrtvladuz976; either shift key01:25
desrtnot escape, obviously01:25
desrtbut the key beside 101:25
vladuz976desrt: i get the same with or without shift01:26
desrtvladuz976; evil :(01:26
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Antinomyok done.  I've got a Name/synopsis/description going01:26
Antinomynalioth sorry01:27
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MIK3MANnalioth: I disagree, I had this box up and running last week with Mepis (using fluxbox) with bittornado and there was no firewall. I never changed any router settings until now, I moved to DMZ.01:27
desrtA[D] minS; find it?01:27
vladuz976desrt: are you using US in gnome?01:27
desrtvladuz976; well... "canadian english keyboard"01:27
desrtwhich is basically american01:27
A[D] minSdesrt, yes but alrady installed01:27
desrtA[D] minS; nod.01:28
vladuz976desrt: in my case the gnome input selector only gives me uk option and some norwegian stuff01:28
desrtA[D] minS; i think it's part of the base system01:28
desrtoh. weird.01:28
A[D] minSnod. ?01:28
desrti wonder if maybe you need to install some other packages for the other layouts?01:28
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desrtA[D] minS; it's already installed... should be part of the base system01:28
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carwisHi there, I am a linux newbie. I just downloaded the live dvd. I have a speedtouch broadband modem that I would like to get working on the live distro. I followed a guide found online, but it requires a reboot. I saved the configuration changes I made on a memory card. How do I boot up using these changes?01:30
vladuz976does anybody here know if there is separate packages for keyboard layouts?01:30
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funkyHatcan anyone help me with a bug report?01:31
BurgundaviafunkyHat, sure01:31
vladuz976i searched with aptitude but found nothing01:31
desrtvladuz976; i wish i could be more help... i'm in breezy right now and keyboard layout stuff is totally fried :(01:31
funkyHati tried filing it in bugzilla.ubuntu.org, but i got told it should go in the other bugtracker.... i'll just get the bugzilla link01:31
desrtit seems really weird that you only got norway in your list....01:32
desrtthat list is huge for me01:32
BurgundaviafunkyHat, can you link to the bug you filed?01:32
desrtdid you try telling it that you have a normal 101 keyboard?01:32
desrt(ie: lie to it)01:32
nitinshantharamits an ACPI-1138 error01:32
nitinshantharamguys im getting error: method execution failed \_sb_.bat1._bst every 5 sec on m acer ferrari 4000 laptop01:32
Antinomyquick question - I unzipped the tar, and it created a folder on my desktop. It's the new firefox 1.0.5. When I click on the installer, it tries to install it to the desktop. What directory should I install it to?01:32
funkyHathttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1278901:32
vladuz976desrt: not only norway, i have french norway, uk,  polish swedish for dvorak01:32
BurgundaviafunkyHat, that needs to be filed in malone01:33
naliothAntinomy: programs YOU install go in /usr/local/bin01:33
desrtvladuz976; try telling it you have a normal US 101 key keyboard01:33
vladuz976desrt: ok01:33
Antinomynalioth: ok, so move it there?01:33
BurgundaviafunkyHat, go to malone, create an account and file it there01:33
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naliothAntinomy: does it simply move or does it have associated files?01:33
carwisanyone know about boot time options for loading saved configurations [for Live CD distro] 01:33
desrtvladuz976; btw... where is ~ on UK?01:33
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vladuz976desrt: changing the type of keyboard doesn' make a difference to the available langauges under dvorak01:34
desrt:(01:34
Antinomynalioth: hmmmm. It just created a folder on my desktop. I can open a terminal and move it to /usr/local/bin. right?01:34
Antinomynalioth or do I need to unzip it there?01:34
desrtvladuz976; i'm gonna go downstairs to my hoary box and check for you01:34
naliothAntinomy: only the binary needs to go in /usr/local/bin, other libs and stuff go in other folders01:35
vladuz976desrt: thanks01:35
desrtah.  wifi is great01:35
Antinomynalioth: not sure what to do then.  Do I need to manually move all of these files? Or did the tar extract them to where they needed to go?01:35
carwisanyone know the boot time options for loading saved configurations [for Live CD distro] 01:36
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desrtvladuz976; gr.  something is seriously messed here01:37
desrtit won't even let me add a new keyboard layout01:37
naliothAntinomy: i dont use firefox, so am not sure. was there something wrong with the ff available by default?01:37
funkyHatBurgundavia, thanks :)01:38
TOXiC^how can i use ssh? i have installed ubuntu to this computer and i want to install gentoo to my other computer using ssh01:38
vladuz976desrt: hey something really weird. even when i switch back to qwerty it doesn't work. but the shift key works for everything else01:38
BurgundaviafunkyHat, np01:38
cut0ffTOXiC^  type 'man ssh' in a terminal01:38
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Antinomynalioth: well, it wasnt the latest version.  And syn didnt have the latest. So I figured it would be a good way to learn how to extract a program from outside the syn01:38
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TOXiC^cut0ff   i tried it but i didn't understand a thing about it :D01:39
funkyHati think i filed it right :)01:39
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flipyhow can I set the root password for mysql?01:40
naliothTOXiC^: ssh is installed by default01:40
naliothAntinomy: well you've learned how to extract01:40
naliothAntinomy: i'm just not familiar with the contents of the tgz01:41
carwisok, now that you have scanned my pc, can someone help?01:41
TOXiC^nalioth   i know that but i just dunno how to use it01:41
naliothAntinomy: and dont want to guess01:41
A[D] minSconfig.status: error: cannot find input file: intl/Makefile.in <---- what is that means?01:41
naliothTOXiC^: open a terminal and type "ssh username@other.puters.IP.address"01:41
Antinomynalioth: ok, thanks01:41
cut0ffTOXiC^ try to install 'openssh' client and server01:42
TOXiC^ok thanks01:42
naliothAntinomy: you'll find here in linux, the latest isnt necessarily the greatest01:42
vladuz976desrt: hey i even have the same problem when i connect a differnt keybard01:42
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hondjehuh, scanned my pc?01:42
desrtvladuz976; i'm sorry.  i really don't have much experience with this sort of thing01:42
vladuz976desrt: the ~key stopped working no matter what keyboard is connected01:42
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naliothTOXiC^: you will definitely need a sshd on the gentoo-destined box01:42
CarlFKssh client is installed by default, openssh-server is what isn't01:43
desrtvladuz976; my suggestion is to move to canada, reinstall your linux box, and then move back quietly01:43
naliothguys, TOXiC^ is wanting to ssh INTO another box01:43
vladuz976desrt: i'll keep that in mind01:43
cut0ffnalioth huh sorry01:43
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TOXiC^i did start the ssh server on the other computer01:43
GattonIs there one place in Gnome where I can set my file associations?01:43
MIK3MANnalioth: I got it working :O)    it needed DMZ and some tweaking in bittornado. Hope I can now get some decent speeds01:43
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naliothTOXiC^: then "ssh username@ip.address.of.puter" will do it01:44
atevesis anyone using any notifier apps for gmail?01:44
desrtGatton; one place for all file types?01:44
Antinomynalioth: I really just want to practice - I've loaded ubuntu on the desktop so I can screw around with it01:44
naliothMIK3MAN: great!01:44
desrtGatton; you can just set it on a type-by-type basis01:44
Gattondesrt, that would be ideal. basically I can't seem to find a way to tell Gnome to always open certains extensions with the same app01:44
Antinomynalioth: so let me ask you this. If I want to DL a app that isnt in Syn, how do I do that?01:44
naliothAntinomy: ok so read your "man tar" and pack it all back up01:44
vladuz976desrt: wanna know what happened?01:44
desrtGatton; right click on the type of file in question and go to properties01:44
Gattondesrt, that would be a good workaround. but so far i haven't noticed how to do that. like when i right click and choose to open with a different app01:44
desrtGatton; then check under the "open with" tab01:45
Gattondesrt, ok thanks01:45
TOXiC^is it ssh livecd@ip or ssh root@ip?01:45
MIK3MANnalioth: if someone ever has questions on working bittornado just direct them my way, my chance at giving back to the chan01:45
naliothAntinomy: i personally compile from source code01:45
desrtGatton; then pick the radio button beside the application that you want01:45
KB2000ateves: i'm using gbiff... so i activated pop on my gmail... but i would really like a real gmail working thing :)01:45
naliothTOXiC^: its your username on teh box01:45
MIK3MANthis channel has some great support01:45
naliothTOXiC^: once you get access, you can always su or sudo01:45
Gattondesrt, can't believe I didn't see that tab! Thanks!01:45
vladuz976desrt: don't wanna know?01:45
desrtGatton; no prob.01:45
desrtvladuz976; what happened?01:45
atevesKB2000: normally "mail-notification" should support gmail01:45
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TOXiC^i havent changed the username on gentoo installation01:45
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atevesbut it doesn't work01:45
MIK3MANgonna check my speed01:45
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naliothateves: it's been reported tha mail-notification stopped working about a month ago01:46
KB2000ateves: yeah, i tried it and it did work once... but apparently not anymore... i'd die for an update :)01:46
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vladuz976desrt: i removed the japanese language and now it's working... that's a bug01:46
desrthah.  weird.01:46
Antinomynalioth: do you know a good documentation on compiling/unzipping apps? I want to try to go outside the syn box01:46
desrtvladuz976; i didn't see you say it was working :)01:46
naliothAntinomy: there is plenty to read at www.tldp.org01:46
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TOXiC^ssh keeps asking a password.. but i haven't set a password :C01:47
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vladuz976desrt: yes, working, finall. i'm happy. gonna do some "cd ~/" now01:47
desrtvladuz976; you know, you can always just type "cd" on its own :)01:47
BurgundaviaKB2000, gmail changed their interface for that sort of thing01:47
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hondjeyou can just type cd by itself to go to home01:47
Antinomynalioth: thanks chief01:47
KB2000Burgundavia: yeah, but mail-notification SHOULD be updated :)01:47
BurgundaviaKB2000, you can ask a motu nicer to move the Breezy package to hoary01:47
naliothTOXiC^: that may be a problem01:47
Wahyudichecking for Berkeley DB... /usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.201:47
Wahyudichecking for Qt... Qt not installed. Make sure Qt 3.x is installed before proceeding01:47
Wahyudican help me01:48
naliothAntinomy: we're here 24/701:48
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BurgundaviaKB2000, or file a bug in malone01:48
vladuz976desrt: shoot you're right. then i am gonna use mv ~/01:48
Antinomynalioth: you've been very helpful and patient01:48
desrtBurgundavia; that's extremely unlikely to actually happen01:48
Wahyudiwhat's that QT ??01:48
KB2000Burgundavia: is the breezy package working?01:48
desrtvladuz976; :)01:48
BurgundaviaKB2000, don't use it01:48
hondjeusb 3-2: config 1 interface 0 altsetting 0 has 3 endpoint descriptors, different from the interface descriptor's value: 2   <---anyone know wtf that means? :)01:48
naliothAntinomy: you missed all the shouting01:48
KB2000Burgundavia: but does it work? hehe01:48
Wahyudihello01:48
BurgundaviaKB2000, it might01:48
BurgundaviaKB2000, if you provide the patch, that would be good01:48
Wahyudihellp me just for a moment pls01:48
KB2000Burgundavia: i don't like the word "might" :)01:48
Burgundaviaso they only have to backport the fix01:48
naliothWahyudi: ask your question01:49
Wahyudichecking for Qt... Qt not installed. Make sure Qt 3.x is installed before proceeding01:49
Wahyudiwhat's that QT01:49
KB2000Burgundavia: see then there's the breathing and the.... :)01:49
naliothWahyudi: open synaptic and search for libqt01:49
desrtWahyudi; are you trying to compile a KDE program?01:49
Wahyudiyes01:49
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Wahyudiis kiosk01:49
PlanarPlatypusdoes anyone in here know how one would map an apple USB keyboard on an x86 computer?  Specifically I would like <alt>+3 to give me a hash symbol01:49
desrtis it not in apt?01:50
Wahyudichecking for Berkeley DB... /usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.201:50
Wahyudichecking for Qt... Qt not installed. Make sure Qt 3.x is installed before proceeding01:50
Wahyudii'm still01:50
Wahyudimany Qt in here01:50
naliothPlanarPlatypus: in your keyboard layouts, choose macintosh01:50
desrtWahyudi; you'll probably need a lot more than qt01:50
PlanarPlatypusnalioth, done that, problem is I then have no hash key01:50
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rasuhurusay, anyone know any really good howtos for dual-booting ubuntu and xp on two drives?  google gives me too many to wade through.01:50
carwisanyone know about live cds?01:51
nitinshantharamguys my touchpad randomly stopped working01:51
nitinshantharamplease help01:51
KB2000Burgundavia: i don't mind contributing a little here and there... but getting familiar with so many open source projects will take so much time...01:51
naliothWahyudi: you need libqt3(something)-dev installed01:51
nitinshantharamim on a acer ferrari 400001:51
Wahyudioh ic01:51
Wahyudiok wait01:51
desrtWahyudi; a good place to start would probably be the kdelibs01:51
BurgundaviaKB2000, file a bug anyway01:51
naliothPlanarPlatypus: hmm, it works on my ibook01:51
Burgundaviasomeone else may do it01:51
carwisi am on an acer ferrari 320001:51
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KB2000Burgundavia: hmm... i might01:51
nitinshantharamcarwis can u tell me the driver u used in xorg.conf01:51
desrtWahyudi; try installing kdelibs4-dev01:51
PlanarPlatypusnalioth, heh, thing is this isn't a mac, this might be the problem.  Right now I am suing the US layout which means I have no poind symbol01:52
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naliothPlanarPlatypus: i just switched to 'macintosh' t'other day (got tired of havin a keypad that didnt work)01:52
ColonelKernelInstead of using first in the list, suggest to define your LANG environment variable like this: LANG=en_US <----- how do I do this?01:53
carwisi wouldn't know where to start - I am a newbie. I just downloaded the live cd and it worked. but I am now trying to get the broadband modem to work01:53
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Wahyudi1 hours ?? to download it ????01:53
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nitinshantharamcarwis in the terminal type nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:53
desrtWahyudi; qt/kde are huge01:53
nitinshantharamand scroll down to the Mouse section01:53
desrtColonelKernel; sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales01:54
nitinshantharamand tell me what is listed under there01:54
funkyHatcarwis, there are some ADSL modems that just aren't supported by linux01:54
ColonelKerneldesrt, thanks01:54
vladuz976desrt: you know i rearanged my keys, they only bad thing is that the little bumps for orientationn are gone now01:54
desrtvladuz976; ya.  i hate that01:54
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KB2000i'm sure if the mail-notification thing got enough donations the guy would love to do it... i wouldn't mind giving a little donation to get it working... but i probably wouldn't pay enough by myself to make him happy01:54
desrtvladuz976; it'd be nice if you could find people selling proper dvorak keyboards01:54
desrtvladuz976; but they all suck01:54
vladuz976desrt: maybe there is something u can buy01:54
ateveslord, i would kill for a gmail notifier ;)01:54
vladuz976desrt: u can01:54
funkyHatdesrt, vladuz976, get a set of keyboard stickers :P01:54
bimberiWahyudi: From what I can tell you'll need libqt3c102-mt (lots of qt3 runtime packages seem to depend on it)01:55
carwisthis one is - I found drivers online - but I can't reboot because I lose my settings. How do you restore the saved settings?01:55
vladuz976funkyHat: yeah but will they cover the old ones01:55
ColonelKerneldesrt, theres a bunch of the english ones checked01:55
HrdwrBoBdesrt: buy an IBM modelm01:55
carwisnitinshantharam: cant do that now - only have 1 pc - and running windows now01:55
HrdwrBoBmovable keycaps01:55
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desrtColonelKernel; after you go past that screen it will ask you which one you want to be default01:55
funkyHatvladuz976, does it matter? get ones in a bold colour01:55
HrdwrBoByou can change the keyboard to be whatever01:55
vladuz976funkyHat: style01:55
funkyHatyou could probably get ones that cover the tops of the keys too01:55
philipsIs there anyway to recover from a bad Breezy X upgrade?  I just did it after seeing the WARNING01:55
DiscipulusI went to install a python package01:56
Discipulusand I got an error01:56
naliothphilips: not that i know of. what went bad?01:56
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desrtbimberi; that's included in kdelibs4, it seems01:56
ColonelKerneldesrt, thank you01:56
desrtColonelKernel; no prob01:56
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philipsnalioth: x-window-system-core has missing packages01:57
desrtColonelKernel; you'll have to logout/in for the change to take effect01:57
philipsnalioth: err dependencies01:57
ColonelKerneldesrt, thanks again :D01:57
bimberidesrt: yes - but if he only needs qt ...01:57
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ColonelKernelbrb01:57
desrtbimberi; afaik, kiosk is a full-blown kde app01:57
naliothphilips: yes, xwindows is broken in breezy atm, the rest of the system works, i believe01:57
bimberidesrt: k01:57
desrtK :)01:57
bimberi:)01:57
philipsnalioth: is there anyway to fix it... I have a broken system now01:58
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desrtphilips; are you running breezy?01:59
KB2000philips: the ubuntu breezy forum has lots of info to get your x system up and running... but it ain't easy :)01:59
naliothphilips: i'm not that knowledgable on breezy01:59
PlanarPlatypusnalioth, the problem is when i try and use the <alt> + 3 binding (aka mac) it gets hijacked by applications (eg xchat and bask)01:59
funkyHati learnt dvorak the other week, i was well impressed with myself ^.^01:59
desrtphilips; X is broken in breezy the past few days01:59
desrtphilips; wait a day or two more and it will probably be fixed01:59
crazy2kI'm trying to find a package that Synaptic can't find for some reason. It's Firefox's translation to Spanish. The package is called: mozilla-firefox-locale-es-ar02:00
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crazy2kHow can I find it?02:00
desrtphilips; i'm affected by exactly the same problem :)02:00
philipsdesrt: and you are just waiting it out?02:00
naliothPlanarPlatypus: try using the windows + keypad layout (you are using a Apple keyboard with the number pad, right?)02:00
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desrtphilips; i've got my laptop to fall back on02:00
axis^zzzdesrt,  how goes02:00
desrtaxis; ok02:00
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nitinshantharamcan anyone help me with this dman touchpad?02:01
KB2000philips: i ran breezy for a while... it's possible but you have to follow the forum discussions and do a lot of tweaking to get it to work, but it's possible... :)02:01
desrtjust doing the help channel thing :)02:01
PlanarPlatypusnalioth, yes, trying now02:01
naliothcrazy2k: they are behind on some translations02:01
axisdesrt: hehe for sure :)  right on brotha.. :)  . I'm on my way out now.. cy'all latah02:01
axispaace02:01
desrtcha.02:01
desrt"why do people run breezy?"02:02
crazy2knalioth, so? There's no way to get it? I mean, can't I install the same package but Debian's one?02:02
PlanarPlatypusnalioth, erm, I might be being dense here but I can't find the keyboard map you mentioned02:02
KB2000desrt: you can't help but get a little tempted by all the new packages :)02:02
naliothPlanarPlatypus: i run a PPC, and am not that familiar with keyboard layouts, let me look02:02
desrtKB2000; :)02:02
KB2000i did :)02:02
KB2000but i'm running hoary now :)02:02
desrti've gone back and forth a few times now02:03
naliothcrazy2k: you'll need to ask someone else for verification that the languange pack is ok to install from debian02:03
desrti was running a strange hybrid for about a month, too :)02:03
KB2000hehe... ohh, that doesn't sound good :)02:03
desrt+ pre-cvs gnome :)02:03
KB2000i'm doing the backports now :)02:03
ColonelKernelif I had a mac i'd put osx on it02:03
desrtbackports are a good way to alleviate the breezy-lust :)02:04
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ColonelKernelnot bagging on linux or anything cmon its a custom build of freebsd just for macs02:04
KB2000it sure is... it's not quite enough... but it helps :)02:04
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KB2000breezy-lust is actually a term... :)02:04
crazy2kOk. Then I'll have to wait till they make the translation available. Thank you very much.02:04
desrtit is now :)02:04
ctrlERcan someone help me with the following error: I did module-assistant fakesource and next module-assistant build loop-aes but it keeps telling me that  /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8-2-386 seems to contain unconfigured kernel source, how can i get a module to build using a stock kernel?02:04
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naliothColonelKernel: i have a mac, and i'm running ubuntu02:04
ColonelKernelwhy?02:05
desrtnalioth; represent, brotha.02:05
KB2000desrt: just until the next release :)02:05
cafuegoand so am I.02:05
desrtcafuego; represent, brotha.02:05
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ColonelKernelI just dont understand the choice, it seems like a waste of good hardware02:05
cafuegoTwo, in fact (well, three)02:05
ColonelKernelmacs are made for graphics and audio02:05
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huttanHello, can anyone help me getting my wireless networkcard working? It's a netgear WG511T02:05
KB2000desrt: then it's breezy-happiness and whatever-lust :)02:05
naliothColonelKernel: i look at it as a good use of good hardware02:05
funkyHatnalioth, do you dual-boot?02:05
desrtKB2000; nod.02:05
Chinmanis the pybabelphish support to translate the english to chinese?02:05
cafuegoColonelKernel: Try running Tiger on a G4 1GHz and you'll understand.02:05
desrt(7 if you count the CPUs and not the boxes) :)02:05
naliothfunkyHat: i have that capability, but havnt booted into OSX since i got ubuntu02:06
ColonelKernelwhat is Tiger02:06
jnkColonelKernel, the kind of custom freebsd where you have to pay an upgrade to tiger to get your tv output working...02:06
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desrtColonelKernel; os 10.402:06
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ColonelKernelive put Jaguar on for people and was very impressed02:06
kevinokay back for a bit.....that is until my son bugs me for something else lol02:06
cafuegoColonelKernel: it's certainly pretty and polished, but fast it is not.02:06
ColonelKernelit even installs on systems below the min requirements, I put it on my ex-friends g3 laptop and it worked and worked well02:06
cafuegoColonelKernel: And with Ubuntu (or linux in general) you get a nicer choice of free apps.02:07
desrtcafuego; os 10.4.1 cleaned some stuff up02:07
naliothColonelKernel: also, OSX is bsd-based, so lots of really cool bsd proggys wont compile on it02:07
OdiiNcan i set up swap  memory into a normal folder, nor in a separate partition?02:07
ColonelKernelyeah maybe but osx is what those killer mac recording and graphics apps are built for02:07
jnkColonelKernel, also you don't have the full power of apt on os x (fink is really not the same thing902:07
cafuegodesrt: No, OS 10.4.1 (and 2) appear to be slower still.02:07
ColonelKerneldont get me wrong, the gimp is nice for a free product but photoshop it aint02:07
naliothOdiiN: i believe only a partition02:07
desrtcafuego; not in my experience02:07
cafuegodesrt: There's a massive performance hit between 10.3.9 and them.02:07
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desrtcafuego; but admittedly i don't use them a whole lot02:08
ColonelKerneland cinelerra is definitely no avid02:08
naliothColonelKernel: if you are in the killer mac recording and graphics field, the mac is for you02:08
desrti think most of tiger is a waste of time02:08
ginventHow do I specify what smtp server sendmail uses?02:08
auk!info xsmbrowser02:08
desrtginvent; something about smart relay...02:08
KB2000ColonelKernel: i've used gimp as a photoshop replacement and i don't really see what gimp could do better02:08
ubotuxsmbrowser: (X11 tool for navigating SMB Networks), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 3.4.0-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 81 kB, Installed size: 748 kB02:08
ColonelKernelid give a teste for a dual-ganything mac destop02:08
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bimberihuttan: Have a look for some directions on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards02:08
ginvent?02:08
ginventsmart relay?02:08
jnkginvent, you're using sendmail? don't you want to reconfigure postfix ?02:08
naliothColonelKernel: so would i, to run ubuntu on it02:08
cafuegoginvent: Set Rs<remote server address>02:08
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ColonelKernelhahah02:08
ColonelKerneli'd run avid and protools on it02:09
ColonelKerneland nothing else02:09
cafuegoginvent: I concur that just using postfix would be a far better idea, though.02:09
desrtginvent; edit /etc/postfix/main.cf02:09
ginventah ok... will that work for everyones?02:09
OdiiNnalioth any utility to split the ext3 partition where ubuntu is installed into 2 separate to allow swap ?02:09
desrtginvent; edit the relayhost = line02:09
desrtput your smtp server in there02:09
ctrlERcan someone help me with the question above?02:09
KB2000man, this channel is going fast... are people keeping up or just reading individual discussions? hehe02:09
naliothOdiiN: yes, qtparted or gparted (both frontends to parted)02:09
desrtthen restart postfix02:09
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naliothKB2000: it helps greatly when nicks are prefaced02:09
KB2000nalioth: it sure is02:10
KB2000:)02:10
ctrlERI wrote:  I did module-assistant fakesource and next module-assistant build loop-aes but it keeps telling me that  /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8-2-386 seems to contain unconfigured kernel source, how can i get a module to build using a stock kernel?02:10
ginventSo, I should change relayhost to equal my mail.pacbell.net?02:10
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auk!info expectk02:10
ubotuexpectk: (A Tk/X11 version of the expect program), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 5.42.1-1.1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 68 kB, Installed size: 124 kB02:10
funkyHathow can i make gaim not display the contacts window when it loads?02:10
ginvent<--- super newbie... sorry02:10
auk!info expect02:10
ubotuexpect: (A program that "talks" to other programs), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 5.42.1-1.1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 265 kB, Installed size: 628 kB02:10
desrtginvent; possibly in square brackets02:10
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KB2000what does "!info something" mean?02:10
ginventwhy square brackets?02:10
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cafuegodesrt: No, not in square brackets.02:10
jnkctrlER, I don't know, maybe install the kernel headers instead of the kernel source if you don't compile the kernel yourself02:11
desrtginvent; ok.  just on its own then :)02:11
cafuegoginvent: just the address, nothing else.02:11
naliothKB2000: !info <pkgname> tells you about the package in ubuntu02:11
desrtcafuego; i never remember if it's sendmail or postfix that like them02:11
ginventno brackets... so I just put relayhost = mail.pacbell.net   and everything will go out that mail?02:11
KB2000!info mail-notification02:11
desrtginvent; yes02:11
ubotumail-notification: (Mail notification in system tray), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 241 kB, Installed size: 1116 kB02:11
cafuegoginvent: it will work for anyone who users your linux box as mail relay (or sends mail directly from it)02:11
KB2000wow :)02:11
ginventSendmail is used for asterisk...02:11
ginventthat is what I want to change.02:11
ctrlERjnk, i've done that, but loop-aes doesnt buid with headers only02:11
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cafuegodesrt: they both (can) need them in lookup tabled, but not in the config file.02:12
jnkctrlER, well try to configure the kernel then :)02:12
ginventSo if I change it in the postfix... sendmail will go out that one too?02:12
ctrlERjnk, but my kernel is configured, its a stock kernel02:12
cafuegodesrt: [ip.addr.ess]  would prevent it from doing a lookup.02:12
desrtcafuego; nod02:12
desrtcafuego; i'm used to "foo.bar.com" meaning "MX record for..."02:12
jnkginvent, postfix provides for a sendmail command but it's still postifx behind it unless you actually install sendmail (don't!)02:12
desrtand "[foo.bar.com] " meaning "A record for..."02:12
cafuegoginvent: you don't have sendmail if you have postfix.02:12
jnkctrlER, I mean, configure the kernel source you have installed02:13
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ginventOK cool...02:13
cafuegodesrt: well possible that I got it wrong ;-)02:13
ginventsorry for the dufieness of me today.02:13
ginventI assume I have to restart postfix...02:13
ctrlERjnk, how can i do that?02:13
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ctrlERjnk, could you just point me in the right direction? :)02:13
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jnkctrlER, go in the directory, type "make gconfig" IIRC02:13
xtaniumhey, how would i dual boot ubuntu and os x on a mac?02:13
xtaniumi don't want to have to format my hd02:14
desrtcafuego; i really don't know :)02:14
desrtok02:14
jnkctrlER, tell me if it works02:14
cafuegoginvent: sudo postfix reload02:14
desrtyou *do* want square brackets02:14
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desrti have relayhost = [copacetic.desrt.ca]  in my working config02:14
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ginventI do?02:15
desrtyes02:15
ginventor don't02:15
cafuegoxtanium: make sure you have free unpartitioned space on disk, then install ubuntu. the installer will do the rest.02:15
desrtit might not matter, but if it does, you want them02:15
cafuegodesrt: mine has no brackets and works fine too.02:15
jnkginvent, you know you can simply type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix02:15
desrtso just put them anyway02:15
naliothxtanium: w/o partitioning it's diffecult02:15
ginventjnk, didn't know that... thanks...02:15
ctrlERjnk,  it gives me the follow: scripts/kconfig/mconf.c:91: error: static declaration of 'current_menu' follows non-static declaration02:15
desrtcafuego; only because your relayhost doesn't have a conflicting MX record02:15
cafuegomind you, it DOES relay to the MX for that domain.02:15
xtaniumdesrt: it will just auto-partition?02:15
naliothxtanium: if you have free space, yes02:15
xtaniumis 9 gigs enough?02:16
ctrlERthis is the same error module-assistant fakesource02:16
naliothxtanium: go for it02:16
cafuegoxtanium: more than enough02:16
ginventIs there a gui setup for postfix?02:16
ctrlERjnk, this is the same error module-assistant fakesource gives me02:16
xtaniumso even if the space is formatted on like +HFS, it will still repartition?02:16
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jnkctrlER, this is weird, how did you install those sources'02:17
xtanium(HFS is osx's file system)02:17
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naliothxtanium: yes, lots of us run macs here02:17
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naliothxtanium: i believe there is a resizing tool on the installer02:18
xtaniumsweet02:18
jnkctrlER, correct way is installing the package linux-source-2.6.1002:18
naliothxtanium: i recommend a total repartitioning, tho (personally)02:18
ctrlERapt-get install ....02:18
TOXiC^w00t i got that ssh working :D i only had to change the root password for my othe computer02:18
xtaniumquestion 2: can i install it onto a fw hd?02:18
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ctrlERerrr, but i use other kernel (im in debian...)02:19
naliothxtanium: not at this point02:19
xtaniumok, thanks!02:19
naliothxtanium: b/c the kernel isnt f/w booting aware yet02:19
xtaniumah02:19
xtaniumand the ubuntu installer only requires 1 cd, right?02:19
ctrlERbut i install the package linux-source for my kernel02:19
naliothxtanium: yessir, the rest comes over the net02:19
xtaniumnice02:20
xtaniumthanks02:20
jnkctrlER, it's probably a problem with your version of gcc02:20
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LasseLI really miss a tool where I can see which files various processes request on the filesystem02:21
LasseLlike filemon for windows02:21
jnkctrlER, what's the exact package for the kernel source and for gcc ?02:21
jnkLasseL, like lsof ?02:21
LasseLgood stuf02:21
LasseLf02:21
ctrlERgcc (GCC) 4.0.1 (Debian 4.0.1-2)02:22
ctrlERdont know how to get the kernel source version?02:22
ctrlERuname -a?02:22
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rasuhuruis there anyway to dualboot without resizing your windows partition?02:23
Heart_have problems with mounting my ntfs win-partition02:23
Wckdkl0wncan anyone help me with installing a plugin for xchat?02:23
Heart_have now  /dev/hda5 on /media/windows_d type ntfs (ro,gid=1000,nls=utf8)02:23
jnkgive that too, but give also the version of the source package (see with "dpkg -l kernel-source*"  don't issue this command in a directory where there is a file/directory beginning in kernel-source)02:23
TOXiC^because the guys on #gentoo channel (this isn't advertising :D) don't want to help me.. maybe someone on here would help me maybe? what gentoo stage package should i download x86 or i686? i have 32bit AMD (athlon i guess)02:23
admrl_can anyone help me enable direct rendering..?02:23
Heart_my user has gid=1000 but i can not cd to /media/windows_d :(02:23
X3Nwhat card admrl_02:23
CarlFKrasuhuru - add a 2nd drive02:24
rasuhurualready done02:24
PlanarPlatypusWckdkl0wn, yes, which plugin?02:24
naliothTOXiC^: 68602:24
CarlFKrasuhuru - then yes.  install away. the ubuntu installer will see the windows stuff and let you isntall around it, then setup the boot loader to let you pick02:24
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admrl_GeForce FX 5200 i think02:25
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jnkTOXiC^, return to the #gentoo channel with this ticket:  "The #ubuntu channel kindly ask the #gentoo channel to answer this question. Thanks."02:25
admrl_yep02:25
rasuhurusimple!02:25
CarlFKrasuhuru - it really is that easy ;)02:25
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rasuhuruall that googling for nothing.02:25
PlanarPlatypusTOXiC^, K702:25
X3Nadmrl_, install "nvidia-glx"02:25
naliothHeart_: you want to mount your stuff?02:25
admrl_just w/ apt-get02:25
admrl_..?02:25
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Heart_nalioth: yes02:25
X3Nyeah that'll do admrl_02:25
CarlFKrasuhuru -thats cuz it is so easy - I wonder if google has instructions for turning on a light... ;)(02:25
X3Napt-get install nvidia-glx02:25
nalioths_dogHeart_: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically02:25
admrl_thanx!!02:26
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kawsyIs there an easy way for me to install warty if the raid modules I need are not included?02:26
X3Nadmrl_, you have to change the drivers to the ones you've just installed now02:26
Wckdkl0wnplanarplatypus xmms-info... the files i extracted are a .pl and a .theme file02:26
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X3Nadmrl_, do you know how to use vi ?02:26
elianyone here use synergy?02:26
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CarlFKeli - 2 frinds do, the say it rocks02:27
Heart_only run this file and all win-partitions are autom. mounted in /media/*?02:27
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naliothHeart_: yes as it explains02:27
elii have installed it, but no manual of any sort was installed on it02:27
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Wckdkl0wnanyone know how to install a .pl and a .theme file for a plugin on xchat?02:28
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eliI have seen synergy work. it looks good and works seamlessly over network02:28
X3Nadmrl_, because what you need to do now is edit /etc/X11/xorg.con and replace where it says "nv" to "nvidia"02:28
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naliothWckdkl0wn: the .pl goes in your .xchat/plugins or scripts folder02:28
X3N* /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:28
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naliothWckdkl0wn: i have no idea about the theme02:28
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ed1tWckdkl0wn, X-Chat load plugins?02:28
admrl_i use nano X3N02:29
ed1tX-Chat > Load plugins or script02:29
Wckdkl0wni put them in the /xchat2 folder like i did the rest of the plugins i installed02:29
X3Nadmrl_, ah ok then02:29
Wckdkl0wn.xchat202:29
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admrl_:) thanx02:29
Wckdkl0wnedit i tryed that02:29
X3Nadmrl_, you'll have to restart X i'm affraid02:29
admrl_uho02:29
admrl_lol02:29
admrl_dpkg-split: error reading /cdrom//pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10/nvidia-glx_1.0.7174-0ubuntu1_i386.deb: Input/output error02:29
admrl_dpkg: error processing /cdrom//pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10/nvidia-glx_1.0.7174-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack):02:29
admrl_ subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 202:29
admrl_Errors were encountered while processing:02:29
admrl_ /cdrom//pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10/nvidia-glx_1.0.7174-0ubuntu1_i386.deb02:29
admrl_E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:29
naliothadmrl_: dont do that here, use a pastebin, or #flood02:30
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admrl_whoops sorry about that02:30
X3Nadmrl_, don't bother using the cdrom02:30
_frankadmrl_: bad cd maybe?02:30
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admrl_how do i go without the cdrom02:30
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admrl_i think that might b it _frank02:31
X3Nadmrl_, comment it out in your  /etc/apt/sources.list02:31
X3Nthe cdrom refferences that is02:31
naliothadmrl_: open your /etc/apt/sources.list using "sudo" and put a # in front of the cdrom line02:31
Wckdkl0wnError loading '/home/admin/.xchat2/xmms-info.pl':02:31
Wckdkl0wn Can't locate Xmms/Remote.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 2) line 3.02:31
Wckdkl0wn BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 2) line 3.02:31
naliothadmrl_: save it and reload your apt-get02:31
admrl_i know how to do it02:31
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admrl_thanx :)02:31
naliothWckdkl0wn: dont paste in here02:31
X3Nah uncoment the universe lines02:32
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nalioththe ops are gonna start slappin you guys around02:32
X3Nthose are useful02:32
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naliothreka: how you been?02:33
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rekanalioth: good. went back to uni this week.02:33
naliothreka: wish i was back at uni02:33
rekanalioth: i wish i was finished. :D i dropped by a few times but you were supposedly sleeping :)02:34
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cajunwhere can i find a listing for the ubuntu filesystem hierarchy?  i'm having trouble finding....i need to upgrade GAIM and I need to find out what directory it is installed in02:34
X3Nsudo updatedb02:35
X3Nsudo locate gaim02:35
desrtcajun; check out /var/lib/dpkg/info/gaim.list02:35
bpucciocajun: you can always tray and locate it with the locate command02:35
naliothreka: ya, that zZz noise covers up a lot of mischief02:35
cajunah.   thanks02:35
desrtcajun; it lists all files involved with gaim02:35
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bpuccioalternatively, there's a document on the debian sites somewhere that describes where each package should put what files, ubuntu does pretty myuch the same AFAIK02:36
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ksymsI have a sound blaster live 7.1, in the alsa website there is an explanation of how installing it. Should I follow this one or is there specific instructions for ubuntu?02:37
desrtksyms; live or live 24bit?02:37
ksyms24bits02:37
desrtmy condolences02:37
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desrtthere's an alsa-source package that will probably help you02:38
ksymsdesrt, it does work. it's in the website.02:38
cajunlocate didn't help me much.   the site for gaim says to extract the archive into the directory where gaim is installed and run the makefile to recompile it02:38
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desrtcajun; what website is this?02:38
cajungaim.sourceforge.net02:38
ksymsdesrt, why the condolences then?02:38
X3Ncajun, have you ever compiled something from source before ?02:39
desrtksyms; because it's a pain to get it to work compared to normal live02:39
desrtksyms; and it's not a very good card02:39
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cajunonce or twice02:39
naliothcajun: use your favorite pkg mangler to remove the gaim you've got02:39
calcanyone know how to make xlibs install on breezy?02:39
cajunit won't remove my settings will it?02:39
naliothcajun: if you are compiling it, it should install by default into the proper directorys02:39
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desrtdon't uninstall gaim.02:39
ksymsdesrt, I have it in my debian at work. It is much better then the old 5.1.02:39
capiAnyone know how to override the Gnome resolution?02:39
naliothcajun: no your settins are in your ~/ folder02:39
desrtit will take ubuntu-desktop with it02:39
reka!tell capi about fixres02:40
desrtksyms; but it offloads most of its work onto your CPU02:40
cajunso how should i upgrade then?  gaim v 1.4 isnt' in synaptic02:40
ksymsdesrt, I have enough here...02:40
desrtcajun; have you tried backports?02:40
cajunso i have to do it manually02:40
robotgeekcajun: is there an update to gaim?02:40
capireka, what is fixres02:40
cajunonly on gaim.sourceforge.net02:40
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cajunwhat is backports?02:41
rekacapi: ubotu should have sent a pm to you02:41
desrthttp://backports.ubuntuforums.org/02:41
cajuni'm still VERY new to linux...learning a little at a time02:41
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cajunag02:41
cajunah02:41
capireka, ah see it.02:41
FoamY_is_DrunKo_o02:41
tankiFoamY_is_DrunK, when you finish the clock i want to see pics02:41
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=== calc found answer in bugzilla
FoamY_is_DrunKtanki i will be more than happy to show you them02:42
MinuoWhere should I put commands that I need to run before the network comes up?02:42
tankity02:42
desrtah02:43
desrtgaim 1.4 isn't in backports yet02:43
X3Ngaim 1.4 is old..02:44
desrtbut 1.3.1 is02:44
desrtgaim 1.4 is about a week old...02:44
FoamY_is_DrunKtanki give me your email i'll show you the finished product02:44
FoamY_is_DrunKi do have one built02:44
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cajuni have deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted02:44
cajun in my sources.list file02:44
X3Noh yes, forgot i'm using gaim cvs02:44
cajundo i still need to put in the line that backports website recommends?02:45
cajunsince i won't find gaim 1.4 in backports, can anyone help me out with my upgrade?02:45
naliothcajun: it's recommended you comment both those lines from backports out when you'r not actively d/l a program02:45
cajuni'd really appreciate it02:46
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desrtcajun; can you wait another week or so?02:46
desrtcajun; gaim 1.4 will be in backports02:46
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cajunok.   i'll wait a week then02:46
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CraZy675Hi, I have a big problem: I am running kubuntu 5.04 and when I boot i get the message "Contains a File system with errors: check forced"02:48
capireka, thanks but that wasn't what I needed, I've tried all that three times over. Thanks though.02:49
naliothCraZy675: EVERY time?02:49
CraZy675Then I get "buffer I/O error on device hda1, logical block" then some numbers02:49
CraZy675nalioth, yes everytime02:49
naliothCraZy675: how old is your HD?02:49
FoamY_is_DrunKi receved an email that wasen't porn omg could i have actually gotten rid of all the junk mail?02:49
rekacapi: i'll walk you through then....post your xorg.conf to the pastebin in the topic02:50
FoamY_is_DrunKmozilla thunderbird rules02:50
CraZy675pretty old02:50
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CraZy6756 years02:50
CraZy675no 402:50
naliothCraZy675: please install "smartmontools" with your fave package manager02:50
CraZy675its 4 years this september02:50
CraZy675ok02:51
oompahey I got a problem. I converted an ntfs hard drive to fat and then booted into linux but linux still thinks it's ntfs02:51
oompacan't mout it as fat02:51
Razor-Xany LaTeXers in here now?02:51
nalioths_dogoompa: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically02:51
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rekaRazor-X: still learning....so i guess i'm half a LaTeXer. :)02:52
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tritiumRazor-X, I am here.02:52
delltonyquestion isn't there an extention for firefox that will allow you to view ie specific pages (as in make the website think your using ie) ? trying to get some things on direct tv to work thanks02:53
oompanalioths_dog: thanks but isn't that kinda odd?02:53
tritiumWhat's going on with LaTeX, Razor-X ?02:53
Razor-Xtritium: here02:53
Razor-X\[\exp_{b} (x) = b^x, b \in \mathbb{R}, b \noteq 0, x \in \mathbb{R}, x \noteq 1\] 02:53
Razor-Xthat generates an error, oddly enough02:53
CraZy675nalioth, apt-get install smartmontools doesn't seem to work02:53
capireka, I'm getting help in the gnome IRC currently, so I'll just stick with them. Thanks though :D02:53
tritiumRazor-X, one sec.02:53
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Razor-Xtritium: mmmkay02:54
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Razor-Xdelltony: I would doubt it02:54
oompanalioths_dog: It gave me the error no usable windows/mac partitions found02:54
seven_six_twodoes ubuntu live not include partimage?02:55
Razor-XIE has its own rendering ways, why would there be an extension that changes that? I'ld think the devs would add that into the rendering engine itself02:55
Razor-Xseven_six_two: use dd02:55
seven_six_twomy friend needs to back up a partition b4 he messes with his ati drivers02:55
rekacapi: no probs.   <whisper> you'll be back </whisper>02:55
Razor-Xno need for partimage, dd is awesome02:55
CraZy675I have a root prompt02:55
CraZy675but thats about it02:55
seven_six_twowill dd copy to 1 file?02:55
Razor-Xof course02:55
CraZy675root@(none)02:55
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Razor-Xdd's older than UNIX (I believe)02:55
seven_six_twook what is su pwd for live cd?02:55
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naliothCraZy675: do you have a liveCD?02:56
Razor-Xseven_six_two: there is no su password, you prepend a sudo to execute things as root02:56
seven_six_twooh yeah. sorry. i forgot about that02:56
naliothCraZy675: i suspect a DOA HD02:56
jasoncohenseven_six_two, there is no root password and you can run programs with sudo in the live cd without entering a password02:56
teferiokay, who feels up to a challenge?02:56
Razor-Xtritium: and I've included amsmath and amsfonts into my document02:56
delltonyRazor-X, i thought there was actually i know there was something to do with changing the browser x-header or something ill keep looking02:56
CraZy675nalioth, yes i have a live cd02:56
Razor-Xdelltony: you mean change referrer?02:57
CraZy675i suspect a dead hdd too but I'd like to recover what I can02:57
tritiumRazor-X, try \usepackage{amssymb} then02:57
naliothCraZy675: please boot from it, come back in here when you do02:57
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CraZy675k02:57
teferibig challenge.02:57
CraZy675should I use the kubuntu live cd or the ubuntu live cd?02:57
Razor-Xit won't render as IE, but it'll tell the web page that it is IE, doesen't work that often though *shrugs*02:57
Razor-Xtritium: what's the difference?02:57
naliothCraZy675: ubuntu, if ya don't mind02:57
CraZy675ok02:57
Razor-XI'ld prefer Kubuntu ;)02:58
CraZy675im going for ubuntu live 4.102:58
naliothCraZy675: any will do02:58
seven_six_twook i have no clue how to back up a whole partition with dd...02:58
splittawhats the default wm for ubuntu-lite ?02:58
Razor-Xseven_six_two: read the man page ;)02:58
Razor-Xi'll save ya the trouble, though02:58
delltonynah not spoofin the refererr02:59
tritiumRazor-X, I haven't looked at the differences that closely to tell you02:59
seven_six_twoi have o'reilley desktop reference02:59
Razor-Xsudo dd if=/dev/hdx of=/path/to/partition/file/02:59
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Razor-Xseven_six_two: man pages are awesome02:59
rekathere's an ubuntu-lite?02:59
Razor-Xnever read a man page before?!02:59
Razor-Xreka: there is?02:59
splittayeah02:59
ed1tsplitta, where?02:59
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rekaRazor-X: dunno.  is there?02:59
seven_six_twoi have, but i use my book more often...thanks for that02:59
splittaubuntulite.org02:59
splittabut02:59
splittait was 503 earlier03:00
Razor-Xtritium: didn't change much03:00
delltonyuser agent switcher found it03:00
Razor-Xi'm not sure what's generating the error, 3 actually03:00
seven_six_twowith dd the source is mounted too?03:00
nameless1im getting a error when i boot up ubuntu it says ERROR failed to initialize HAL!, whats hal and how do i fix this?03:00
Razor-Xseven_six_two: no, it refers to the physical drive, no mounting needed03:00
tritiumRazor-X, ok, give me a second.  I'll pull out Helmut and Kopka03:00
splittasee distrowatch weekly news03:00
seven_six_twocool. thanks03:00
Razor-Xtritium: heh, ok03:00
Razor-XI never have the patience to read anything on a periodical manner03:01
Razor-Xs/on/in03:01
Razor-X/03:01
Razor-Xadd a / at the end ;003:01
rekanameless1: is your name Dave? :D </lame joke>03:01
Razor-Xs/;0/;)/03:01
tritiumRazor-X, you know about texdoctk, right?03:01
ed1tsplitta, its unofficial, its not supported by Ubunu03:01
ed1tUbuntu03:01
Razor-Xtritium: nopes03:01
nameless1reka, lol nope03:02
tritiumRazor-X, you should look into it.03:02
Razor-Xtritium: what is it?03:02
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splittai've yet to see it03:02
Razor-Xi'm writing out a whole set of course notes for a friend, it's 112 lines so far, it details the important concepts taught in the course03:02
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rekanameless1: i suggest you google while you wait for an answer.03:03
CraZy675ok ubuntu live has booted03:03
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splittastill waiting for the devs to find some moew bandwidth :o)03:03
tritiumRazor-X, documentation for tex in the tetex-bin package.03:03
naliothCraZy675: when it comes up, lemme know (or install "smartmontools")03:03
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nameless1reka, ok will do03:03
splittathought i would try kate_os in the meantime03:04
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splittad/l their 2.1 live iso03:04
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tritiumRazor-X, oh, I missed that.  \noteq is not defined.  You should use \neq or !=03:04
splittakinda ot sorry guys03:04
Razor-Xohhh, it's \neq! now I remember03:04
Razor-Xsilly me ;)03:04
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pjwHi all, Is Ubuntu concordant with Linux Standard Base 2.0 or 3.0? I have asked yet, but I haven't received an answer.03:05
CraZy675nalioth, I'm trying to install smartmontools now03:05
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KyralHoly cow, we have ops03:06
Razor-Xnow, all that's left is Circles, Absolute Value Function, Elipses, Parabolas, and Hyperbolas03:06
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tritiumpjw, lsb_release -a03:06
KyralCalculus?03:06
Razor-Xand some nice properties of factorials and sigma notation03:06
naliothCraZy675: should have no problems03:06
Razor-XKyral: hardly, Algebra II notes for a friend03:06
Razor-XI know this stuff, so I did add my own special stuff03:07
Razor-X;)03:07
KyralHigh School Algebra or College?03:07
Razor-XCollege03:07
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Razor-X(technically speaking)03:07
Kyraleww03:07
CraZy675nalioth, "couldn't find package ...."03:07
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KyralAlgebra bites you in the ass03:07
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seven_six_twosudo mount /dev/sda2 mounteddir     just froze on live cd03:08
Razor-XKyral: I prefer algebraic concepts to other math concepts ;)03:08
naliothCraZy675: what version is your kubuntu?03:08
KyralI gotta take Calc 2 next semester because it took me 2 semesters to pass Calc 103:08
seven_six_twoit actually just froze the whole system03:08
ed1tKyral, lol good luck with that....i took calc 2 last semester...ooo man03:09
XTCanybody using the D-Link di-524 router?03:09
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CraZy675on the harddrive kubuntu 5.04 is installed the live cd is ubuntu 4.1003:09
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Kyralthe prof from the first semster came in hungover half the time03:09
ed1tlol03:09
Razor-XKyral: i'm trying to learn Calc I, at the moment03:09
funkyHatXTC, i'm using a DI-604, close enough?03:09
capireka, they couldn't help me in Gnome,  xorg.log http://pastebin.com/316670 , xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/31667303:09
ed1ti hate calc03:09
cafuegoKyral: That propbably means the students sucked ;-)03:09
Razor-Xed1t: i'm learning it for fun ;)03:09
ed1ti think nobody needs more then pre-calc03:10
Kyralmy College had Professor Deathmatch, complete with videos03:10
nalioths_dogCraZy675: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:10
XTCfunkyHat XTC, i'm using a DI-604, close enough? << i dunno... have you had troubles using msn... regular disconnects... ?03:10
seven_six_twowow...even alt+sysrq+rsieub won't work. thanks for the help, i'm going to use knoppix03:10
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Kyralhis entry was basically to the effect that he KNOWS he puts his kids to sleep03:10
Razor-Xed1t: and what happens if you choose to major in math itself? ;)03:10
naliothCraZy675: enable all your repos, and reload the apt and try again03:10
CraZy675nalioths_dog, ok03:10
Kyraland I feel asleep in every class :D03:10
rekacapi: k, to confirm, you want a res of 1152?03:10
CraZy675nalioth,03:10
CraZy675ok03:10
ed1tRazor-X, well i had to take it...im a computer science major03:10
KyralYea!03:10
ed1tit was touch as hell03:10
capireka, yes03:10
Razor-XI'm good with computers, but i'll never major in CS03:10
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ed1tlol03:10
Razor-Xas far as I want, programming will always be a hobby03:11
Kyraled1t, where do you go?03:11
HrdwrBoBhaha03:11
rekacapi: run this please: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange03:11
HrdwrBoBI did uni, wasn't my thing03:11
ed1tKyral, seton hall university03:11
HrdwrBoBquit and got a job03:11
Kyralah03:11
KyralI go to Clarkson03:11
funkyHatXTC, disable SPI mode03:11
ed1tcool03:11
Razor-XI don't want to be pushed in some cubicle and said to me "Program or die, BITCH"03:11
HrdwrBoB.. doing what I wanted to do after uni anyway - sysadmin03:11
cafuegoRazor-X: You're assuming CS has something to do doing stuff with computers03:11
XTCSPI?03:11
Razor-Xcafuego: programming, if i'm not mistaken03:11
ed1ti aced all the computer classes...but math classes03:11
ed1tooo man03:11
HrdwrBoBRazor-X: that's a personaly choice03:11
KyralI hate Math03:12
funkyHatTools, Misc on the web interface03:12
cafuegoRazor-X: Most CS people I know have issues using windows.03:12
Razor-Xmath is fun XD03:12
CraZy675sweet, I didn't even know you could use a GUI for your package manager03:12
cafuegoand don't get me started on IT teachers03:12
Razor-Xcafuego: I do too, but i'm not gonna go into CS03:12
KyralI was an Aerospace before I was CS03:12
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capireka, is that spelt right? It's comming up blank03:12
ed1tnext semester im taking operating systems class03:12
Razor-XComputational Theory and the like is cool, though03:12
Kyralbut I fell asleep in Physics more than I did in Calc 103:12
Razor-Xlike Dophantine Machines, and stuff03:12
ed1tlol03:12
XTCIPSec?03:12
rekacapi: means we can't autodetect your monitor rates.....what model do you ahve?03:13
XTCi have everything disabled there :p03:13
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Razor-Xback to more LaTeXing ;)03:13
KyralI tried to do Physics homework with friends, but I'd get smacked a lot for falling asleep03:13
capireka, eView 17f2, you want the specs?03:13
funkyHat"SPI Mode03:13
funkyHatWhen this feature is enabled, the router will record the packet information pass through the router like IP address, port address, ACK, SEQ number and so on. And the router will check every incoming packet to detect if this packet is valid."03:13
ed1ti never had to take physics in college03:13
Razor-Xwhat's the symbol for functional composition in LaTeX?03:13
XTCah... i don't have that options...03:13
rekacapi: if you have the h and v rates, yes....otherwise i can google for them.03:13
XTC:S03:13
tritiumed1t, :o03:13
KyralI started as an Aerospace Major03:13
ed1ti took physics once in high school03:14
KyralChanged Majors the day of the Physics Midterm03:14
ed1tthats it03:14
ed1tlol03:14
Kyralgot out of it :D03:14
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tritiumRazor-X, \circ03:14
capireka, I've got the rates, however the builders site doesn't seem up. Google them.03:14
KyralI got an 11 on the first exam03:14
Razor-XHS Biology for me was a fall-asleep-and-get-A's class03:14
Razor-Xtritium: thanks03:14
Razor-X(last year, only, though)03:14
naliothi have a GED03:14
rekacapi: k, give me a sec03:14
Razor-Xlike, I had 52.8% of my homework done03:14
Razor-Xbut 160%+ on my exams03:15
Razor-Xand so it rounded to an A ;)03:15
KyralI got a .75 GPA for the first semester03:15
ed1tlol03:15
Kyralgot kicked out, begged to be let back in03:15
ed1teverybody gets a low GPA on their first semester03:15
ed1ti did too..03:15
Kyralpulled a 3.07 second semester03:15
funkyHatXTC, that setting did what you just described about msn03:15
Mobiusanyone know of any database design tools?03:16
rekacapi: hmm, your rates seem to be correct.03:16
ed1tMobius, like oracle?03:16
Mobiuslike planning tools =)03:16
Razor-Xplanning shmanning03:16
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Razor-Xdunno what's so good about plannig ;)03:17
Razor-Xs/plannig/planning/03:17
Razor-Xbut, i'ld probably turn to my emacs calendar and Task List, if I needed to ``plan"03:17
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XTCi have read in forums that there's something about logging stuff in the router and getting flooded that makes it reboot... maybe there should be an options for this router to disactivate that thing....03:17
rekacapi: and you've restarted X to no effect?03:17
ed1ti wanna start doing oracle again...man i love dbms03:17
capireka, a plethora of times03:17
Razor-XI tried database crap, never liked it03:17
Razor-Xmy life is so unstructured, but I love overstrict OO in my programming03:18
Razor-Xreally weird that way03:18
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ed1tRazor-X, java?03:18
Mobiusheh03:18
Razor-Xed1t: C#, or as i'm learning, Ruby03:18
Razor-XJava == t3h crap03:18
ed1tjava rocks!!03:18
bimberiMobius: I use an OSS DB design tool called "DBDesigner4" - http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/03:18
Razor-Xit's Garbage Collection is Garbage03:18
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Mobiusthanks bimberi =)03:19
rekacapi: and you've checked sys > prefs > screen resolution?03:19
bimberiMobius: mysql specific but still useful03:19
tritiumRazor-X, so did you try out texdoctk yet?  You'll lilke it.03:19
Razor-Xtritium: yeah, I did03:19
bimberiMobius: for other DBs03:19
capiyep, and used gconftool-2 to try to override it by hand.03:19
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MobiusI will be doing mysql bimberi03:19
ed1tRazor-X, better then C/C++03:19
tritiumRazor-X, you might find this useful: Mathematics/math fonts -> LaTeX symbol table03:20
bimberiMobius: could be the right one for you then :)03:20
Razor-Xtritium: most of it isn't there, though ;(03:20
Razor-Xdoes it come with tetex?03:20
tritiummost of what?03:20
Razor-Xthe files, I click on the topics, and the files they link to are missing03:20
tritiumtetex-doc, most likely03:20
Razor-Xlemme see if I have it installed03:20
Razor-Xed1t: I prefer C++ over Java03:21
naliothRazor-X: not C# over java?03:21
ed1ti had to do a project in C/C++ for one of my CS class....i didnt like it03:21
Razor-Xwow! 21.8 MB of docs ;)03:21
rekacapi: hmm....i'm afraid you've stumped me as well.  your xorg.conf file seems to be correct.03:21
Razor-Xnalioth: yes, yes03:21
Razor-Xafter all the programming i've done, I can only call LaTeX one word -- beautiful03:22
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rekacapi: what about the default depth?03:22
rekacapi: i noticed you only have the modes for 2403:22
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rekacapi: at on point in the wiki, it suggests lowering to 16 to see if that works03:23
reka*at one point03:23
capireka, reka, tried lowering it to 8(lowest it goes), still wouldn't work.03:24
Razor-Xhmmm... what's a nice, relatively unused greek letter?03:24
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Razor-Xok03:24
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Razor-Xreka: your flame has been extinguished! MUAHAHAHAHA03:26
Razor-Xok, ok, I just _had_ to do that XD03:26
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rekaanyone else have some ideas about how to fix res?03:26
tritiumreka, did you follow the wiki page?03:26
rekatritium: capi says he followed it 3 times. :)03:26
naliothreka: reconfigure?03:26
tritiumreka, ah, okay03:27
rekahere's his xorg.conf file, which seems to be OK: http://pastebin.com/31667303:27
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Razor-Xcapi: have you googled?03:28
rekacapi: one idea....the only page i looked at for your rates was an ubforums page....you might want to see if they really are the correct ones you should use.03:28
LokeDKI'm trying to play a midi file with playmidi, but it says playmidi: No playback device found.03:28
naliothreka: VESA will drive anything03:28
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rekanalioth: aha, good point03:29
rekacapi: there you go.. something to try there03:29
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capi#gentoo-help03:32
capisorry, forgot the /j03:33
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rekacapi: heh.  did you try nalioth's suggestion?03:33
capireka, that was?03:33
rekause the VESA driver03:33
rekarather than the i810 one03:34
rekayou have currently03:34
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tritiumcapi, defintely worth a try.03:34
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rekacapi: so, iirc, you'd replace it with: Driver          "vesa"03:34
geneo93hey whats up with 3dfx cards not working03:35
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geneo93live cd works fine though03:35
tritiumyeah, but I'd suggest just doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and selecting the vesa driver03:35
capireka, trying03:35
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Antinomycan someone help me install mplayer?03:37
eric_#get windows03:38
capiresa, no-go, wouldn't even let me startx03:38
rekageneo93: what card?03:38
eric_are you on hoary?03:38
eric_Antimony, you on hoary?03:39
tritiumcapi, and you did follow this:03:39
Antinomyeric: yes03:39
tritium!resolution03:39
ubotuI heard resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:39
eric_try just installing the codecs03:39
geneo93reka:  voodoo banshee03:39
Antinomyeric: I'm a n00b. I really don't know what that means.03:39
eric_ok03:39
eric_1 sec03:39
Antinomyeric: right now I'm following the ubuntuguide03:39
capitritium, yes03:40
naliothAntinomy: are you back again?03:40
Antinomyeric: but it doesnt seem to work03:40
naliothAntinomy: stay away from the guide03:40
Antinomyyes nali, how are you?03:40
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tritiumcapi, and you've taken a good look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues?03:40
naliothAntinomy: it can lead you into trouble03:40
Antinomynalioth yeah it sucks.03:40
Antinomynalioth: trouble, but it doesnt work anyway!03:40
cyphasehey everyone03:41
nalioths_dogAntinomy: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:41
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capitritium, I'd be dumb and blind with the Xorg log, but I have some people who are helping me03:41
nalioths_dogAntinomy: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3803:41
cafuegothe HHGTTG is not to be stayed away from, surely!03:41
tritiumcapi, okay.03:41
naliothcapi: you tried the VESA driver, yet?03:41
AntinomyI added repositories by following the how to already03:41
capinalioth, yes, wouldn't allow me to startx03:41
naliothAntinomy: ok then go here backports.ubuntu.com  and add the two mirrormax lines03:41
eric_Are you just looking for wmv support and such03:42
naliothAntinomy: but only for use RIGHT NOW03:42
eric_?03:42
naliothAntinomy: when you're done with what i'm gonna show ya, you need to disable them03:42
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Antinomynalioth: that address doesnt work03:42
naliothcapi: the VESA driver wouldnt startx?03:42
nalioth!backports03:42
ubotubackports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org. Backports are not advised for regular use, mainly because you might not be able to upgrade Ubuntu.03:42
Antinomybackports.03:42
LasseLanyone had luck with mythtv?03:42
naliothsorry03:42
Antinomynp03:42
capinalioth, correct, after putting VESA in I couldn't startx03:43
naliothcapi: that is strange03:43
LasseL""Starting MythTV server: mythbackendstart-stop-daemon: Unable to set initgroups() with gid 116"03:43
naliothwhat kind of display do you have?03:43
AntinomyIt might help me to understand what it is I'm actually doing.03:43
AntinomyIn other words, why am I taking these actions?03:43
capinalioth, eView 17f203:43
rekageneo93: i see.  it's possible that the liveCD opts to use a driver that includes 3d support for your card, while the default install one doesn't.03:44
naliothAntinomy: the two repos you are enabling are not easily found due to licencing/versioning reasons03:44
naliothcapi: i have no clue, is it a crt or lcd?03:44
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Antinomynalioth: ok03:44
capinalioth, crt03:44
AntinomyI just got to the backports page on the guide03:44
naliothAntinomy: and using them on a regular basis can cause your machine to not be upgreadeable03:44
geneo93reka:  mandrake handles it just fine03:44
naliothcapi: that is very strange, does the hardware work elsewhere/03:45
capinalioth, if you mean Windoze, yes03:45
Antinomywhy? because of technological issues, or the community wont let me upgrade?03:45
SDFH_Linuxhas breezy been released as final yet?03:45
geneo93reka:  i tried warty and hoary both ame results03:45
tritiumcapi, can I please see your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin?03:45
naliothSDFH_Linux: in october03:46
sproingieSDFH_Linux: no.  when it is, there will be much hullaballoo on ubuntu.com03:46
capitrituirm, http://pastebin.com/31667003:46
naliothcapi: how bout an ubuntu liveCD?03:46
tritiumLasseL, I setup mythtv quite some time ago.  My memory is rather hazy on the details.03:46
SDFH_Linuxhow stable is the beta breezy?03:46
KyralNOT03:46
sproingieSDFH_Linux: it is not03:46
SDFH_Linuxdoh03:46
SDFH_Linuxk03:46
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rekageneo93: you probably have to install the driver for your card then.03:47
IIIEars"Windoze" - makes us linux users seem biased. (Psst, We are tho. - lol)03:47
sproingieno, just makes 'em seem stupid03:47
LasseLtritium, remember if you had to do any "tricks" about mysql security to make it work03:47
vaderIIIEars......lol03:47
sproingiethat and M$03:47
Antinomybrb03:47
geneo93mine has nvidia my sons is voodoo03:47
KyralWinblows03:47
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sproingieeven dumber03:48
IIIEars"The Redmond OS"?03:48
KyralThe OS that Satan made?03:48
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IIIEarsheh03:48
tritiumLasseL, no, that I know I did not have to do.03:48
rekageneo93: for the nvidia machine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:48
sproingiegetting into "contemptible" now03:48
aruKyral:  didn't make an OS03:48
aruI03:48
geneo93reka:  mine has driver working fine03:48
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sproingiebesides, everyone knows satan made bsd03:49
tritiumplease guys, no OS wars03:49
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IIIEarsMakes me laugh having to enable Active-X scripting to get an update.03:49
vaderI am just learning, no war from me lol03:49
capitritium, what about ubuntu-live>?03:49
qt2is there a simple way to mimic the windows printscreen function?03:49
tritiumcapi, what about it?03:49
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vaderlol03:50
IIIEarslol03:50
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vaderbtw vader is actually kevin03:50
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capinaolith, what about ubuntu-live>?03:50
tankisup kevin03:50
geneo93tanki:  i take you like living in the past03:50
vaderlivin learnin03:50
capitritium, sorry that was naolith03:50
tritiumah, no problem :)03:50
capinalioth, what about ubuntu-live>?03:50
rekageneo93: this might be what you're looking for: apt-cache show xlibmesa-dri03:50
tankino but seriously, everyone take a moment of silence because ibm announced os/2 warp is dead03:51
robotgeekfinally, sorted my wireless connection out...disabled the network-manager applet03:51
HrdwrBoBtanki: oh no, woe is me03:51
HrdwrBoBI'll have to stop using it...03:51
IIIEarsqt2 - "the prt-scr button on your keyboard doesn't work the same way?03:51
naliothtanki: the moment of silence should be spent wishing that big blue open sources it03:51
overladehello all , has someone succed to install Kguitar in gnome plz ?03:51
robotgeeknalioth: that was all over /.03:51
naliothcapi: yes, does ubuntu liveCD work your hardware?03:51
geneo93reka:  he's going to boot to ubuntu now03:52
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vadertanki: I am getting alaugh out of how much people could learn just by sitting here watching the text03:52
IIIEarsqt2 - What kind of screen shot do you need?03:52
overladehow install java runtime :( ?03:52
naliothvader: the longer you lurk, the more you'll learn03:52
capinalioth, no it just gives 64003:52
qt2...it does now... :o03:52
vaderI lurk a LOT lol03:52
naliothcapi: but it displays, right?03:52
otepoverlade what the prob with it?03:52
capinalioth, yes it displays, just at default rates03:53
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nalioth!java03:53
uboturumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.03:53
naliothcapi: well it WONT display from the HD isntalled ubuntu, right?03:53
PurpleBluDoes ubuntu come with KDE?03:53
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vadermine is added lol, did that the other day03:53
naliothPurpleBlu: you can install it03:53
PurpleBluyes. I would love KDE03:53
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rekaPurpleBlu: default DE is gnome, but you can install KDE later03:53
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vaderkubuntu does03:53
PurpleBlui just installed, all there is GNOME03:53
robotgeekdoes that java include ppc, i guess not!03:53
PurpleBlu:(03:53
capinalioth, it displays in an installed version, just not the right resolution03:54
overladeotep, i need install it because i have problem with a program who use it03:54
anne_anyone here get an original airport card to work under ubuntu?03:54
tritiumPurpleBlu, kde is also available03:54
naliothrobotgeek: ppc users (like me) have to use wiki.ubuntu.com//JavaPPC03:54
rekaPurpleBlu: install kubuntu-desktop for KDE03:54
naliothanne_: yes03:54
IIIEarsPurpleBlu - open synaptic and search kubuntu-desktop D/L and install03:54
robotgeeki know,i just tht ubotu shud mention that03:54
vadernot airport; got d-link dwl-g65003:54
naliothanne_: my airport card works out of the box03:54
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otepoverlade: have you gone here -> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/jre/install-linux.html03:54
robotgeekvader: mac03:54
naliothotep: its differnt in ubuntu03:55
vaderibm03:55
anne_nalioth: is it the 64-bit of the 128-bit?03:55
PurpleBlusynaptic app or someting from the console?03:55
otepwha? oh im using kubuntu03:55
tritiumeither way, PurpleBlu03:55
naliothanne_: my airport is the original 'b' model in a G3 ibook03:55
PurpleBlulooking for it in the applications menu...03:55
IIIEarsPurpleBlu - Synaptic is simplest. but yes apt-get kubuntu-desktop works also03:55
rekasys > admin >synaptic03:55
naliothanne_: what mac do you have?03:55
anne_nalioth: there was a 64-bit WEP and a 128-bit WEP03:56
robotgeeki checked out enlightenment, it seemed *very* nice, eye-candy wise :)03:56
anne_nalioth: G3 ibook (900)03:56
aruI love it when you guys offer the gooey way :)03:56
overladeotep, i cant see ubuntu , how i do ? :( i transform the rpm in .deb ?03:56
PurpleBluin Synaptic now.   thanks reka03:56
naliothanne_: lots of users have problems with wep and wpa, not just on airport cards03:56
robotgeekanne_: do u know which card you have? the old airport or the new airport express?03:56
vadernalioth: I guess I got luck then hu?03:56
naliothanne_: does that have airport? i thought they switched at the 800mhz models to airport extreme03:56
Heart_2what means "un  java-browser-plugin...." (dpkg -l "*java*")03:57
Heart_2un?03:57
naliothvader: what?03:57
anne_nalioth: no... there were two airport 802.11B.... NOT the original and extreme, but 2 original and 1 extreme03:57
rekaoverlade: alien <rpm file> to convert it to .deb03:57
anne_nalioth: not for the ibook.  that was at the G4 edition03:57
naliothanne_: i'm confused now03:57
PurpleBluOkay where would KDE fall in the listing which group?  NOt seeing a desktop group.03:57
vadernever mind... vader falling into the background03:57
overladereka, thanks :)03:57
robotgeekanne_,nalioth the old airport B were based on orinoco, the new ones on broadcom03:57
PurpleBluoopps03:57
PurpleBlufound it03:57
naliothrobotgeek: yes i know this03:58
anne_nalioth: there was the 64-bit original airport cards and then there was a 128-bit airport card03:58
naliothrobotgeek: i'm tryin to find out what anne has03:58
robotgeeknalioth: sorry, my bad03:58
naliothanne_: i have no clue03:58
IIIEarsPurpleBlu - Check out the "Settings" "Repositories" function at the top of Synaptic. adding a repository without any text editing. choose from 16,000+ apps more added everyday03:58
calcanne_: orinoco?03:58
robotgeekanne_: was does lspci say?03:58
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calcsounds like orinoco silver and gold cards03:58
nalioththe original airport uses pcmcia interface and the apx uses mini-pci03:58
calcbroadcom is crap :(03:58
rekaPurpleBlu: there's a search facility. :)03:59
tritiumcapi, I'm not finding much in your Xorg.0.log :(03:59
robotgeekbroadcom is the sux0rs!03:59
naliothcalc: original airport cards work out of the box under ubuntu03:59
robotgeektrue03:59
anne_robotgeek, it's not in there, but modprobing aiport does add an eth103:59
calcnalioth: but broadcoms don't03:59
anne_nalioth: mine didn't.  and yes it did work under OSX03:59
naliothcalc:  correct03:59
robotgeekanne_: is it a B or a G?03:59
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naliothanne_: i think you have an APX04:00
anne_B04:00
anne_I swear to you I don't04:00
calci ripped the broadcom in my amd64 out and put an intel 2915abg in place of it04:00
robotgeekanne_: then i think u have an orinoco04:00
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anne_yes, I do.  I can't seem to connect to my network though04:00
naliothcapi: copy your xorg.conf from the liveCD session04:00
robotgeekanne_: okay..workable.04:01
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robotgeekanne_: do u use WEP?04:01
anne_nope04:01
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robotgeekokay...can u check your 'dmesg' output and tell me the last 4/5 lines?04:01
robotgeekor paste the whole thing in pastebin04:02
IIIEars!pastebin04:02
uboturumour has it, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood04:02
Antinomynalioth: I got the backports mirror site up....if you're still there04:02
anne_airport: Airport at physical address 8003000004:03
anne_eth1: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware version 4.1604:03
anne_WAIT.  It looks like it's in ad-hoc mode04:04
anne_even though iwconfig says it's in managed04:04
robotgeekanne_: :)04:04
anne_How do I change it?04:04
naliothAntinomy: i'm here04:04
lupus1010what is best connection == NULL or !connection04:05
naliothAntinomy: if you've reloaded your apt-get, you can install w32codecs now04:05
robotgeekanne_: moment04:05
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robotgeekiwconfig ra0 mode Managed04:05
robotgeeketh1 instead of ra004:05
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Antinomynalioth: reloaded? confused.04:06
robotgeekanne_: let's take this in a separate window?04:06
geneo91reka:  it says its out of sync04:07
vadertanki: you got awful quiet04:07
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naliothAntinomy: in synaptic, click the 'reload' button in the top left04:08
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Antinomynalioth: done04:08
naliothAntinomy: so search for "w32"04:08
rekageneo91: what says that?04:08
Antinomyi checked w32 codecs - already installed04:08
nalioth!java04:08
ubotujava is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.04:08
geneo91when it tries to startx reka04:09
naliothAntinomy: so if you dont need anything else at the moment, uncheck the boxes next to those mirrormax URLs in your repositories box04:09
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geneo91its an old gateway ev700 monitor reka04:10
Antinomynalioth: I think I missed a step. I'm sorry...I don't know what mirrormax URLs are...04:10
rekageneo91: yeah, sounds like you need to run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:10
Antinomynalioth: oh i see04:10
naliothAntinomy: the two backports lines you put in should be disabled now (if they're not, please disable them)04:10
geneo91reka:  i've done that many times04:11
Antinomynalioth: in preferences>repositories, the last entry is mirrormax.net/hoary-extras. uncheck?04:11
naliothgeneo91: then choose VESA as your driver04:11
naliothAntinomy: yes, please04:11
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rekanalioth: he's trying to get 3d support for a voodoo banshee.04:12
Antinomynalioth: done04:12
geneo91k i'll try that and see what happens reka04:12
elmagozizouHow do I play WMA in xmms?04:12
naliothAntinomy: and the other mirromax line, also04:12
vadersee you all later; as in tomorrow, I am tired for once so have a great night and catch you all on the flip side04:12
rekanalioth: i told him to install xlibmesa-dri04:12
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elmagozizouI can play all but my WMA songs dont even add to the list04:12
naliothreka: vesa will make a dead dog display if its gota vga input04:12
Antinomynalioth: there was only one!04:12
flodinecan someone tell me the command to take screenshots04:13
naliothAntinomy: ok04:13
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elmagozizouHow do I play WMA in xmms?04:13
elmagozizouI can play all but my WMA songs dont even add to the list04:13
tritiumflodine, in gnome, hit the Prnt Scrn button04:13
naliothAntinomy: nothin in the list that says "backports"04:13
IIIEarsflodien - Doesn't the prt-scr button on your keyboard do what you want it to do?04:13
nalioths_dogelmagozizou: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.04:13
flodineim not in gnome04:13
Antinomynalioth: there was only one there. I disabled it04:14
Rockett17i believe he wants the import window root thing.. i forget the syntax04:14
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Antinomynalioth: btw, I have no idea how it got there.04:14
elmagozizounalioth, sorry is just to make shure the people read it...you know is a lot of people writing here04:15
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naliothAntinomy: ok thats weird04:17
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elianyone here used synergy?04:17
gp_aaron|upstairyou can install ubuntu without gnome correct?04:17
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gp_aaron|upstaireli I have04:18
naliothgp_aaron|upstair: sure, choose server install04:18
slinkycan anyone advise on using a new fontset in ubuntu? maybe a link to a good walkthrough?04:18
gp_aaron|upstairnalioth, now does that still install xorg?04:18
Madpilotevening, all... how do I create a .zip file in Ubuntu that will be openable in a WinXP machine?04:18
Madpilot!fonts04:18
ubotuhmm... fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto04:18
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naliothgp_aaron|upstair: nope, it installs a CLI only system04:18
Madpilotslinky: see the URL that ubotu just posted04:19
slinkyubotu: great...ty....will check04:19
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, slinky04:19
gp_aaron|upstairnalioth, ok what I want is xorg and xfce and ob3 but not gnome04:19
Madpilotslinky: ubotu is really a bot. uBOTu...04:19
IIIEarsubotu are you human? - ;)04:19
ubotuIIIEars: Are you smoking crack?04:19
CarlFKway OT, but not sure where to go: OO for win, how do I tell it to associate itself with .doc after MSword took it over?04:19
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sn0nHello all04:19
MadpilotIIIEars :)04:19
slinkywhat are you doing obotu?04:19
naliothgp_aaron|upstair: then from the server install, you can install xfce and apt should give you xorg with that04:19
axis^bblis there a wiki on wiki's04:19
rekaelmagozizou: xmms doesn't have WMA support by default.  here's a very rough guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21414.html04:20
gp_aaron|upstairok thanks nalioth04:20
MadpilotCarlFK: you mean inside Windows?04:20
axis^bblelmagozizou: just delete the wmas buddy ;)04:20
CarlFKMadpilot - correct04:20
naliothCarlFK: right click in explorer, click "open with" and check the "always open with" box04:20
gp_aaron|upstairi didn't know if gnome-desktop was rooted into xorg or not04:20
gp_aaron|upstairthe way it is into openoffice04:20
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gp_aaron|upstairand other packages04:20
geneo91reka:  it has warty installed now04:21
compubombanyone have any experience compiling e17 on ubuntu from cvs ?04:21
MadpilotCarlFK: run OOo's install program again, pick the "Repair Install" option. it'll display the option to take over the Office docs again04:21
CarlFKnalioth - I was hoping there was an OO dialog so I wouldn't have to find all the extenzions and apps, which I think ends up being well ofer 5004:21
ColonelKernelsome pretty bizarre names, all sound like some kina std04:21
CarlFKMadpilot - good plan.  thanks04:21
ColonelKernelor ways to refer to prostitutes04:21
sn0nok, i have a question.. what is the version number of warty ? and whats the one for hoary ?   (from what i read, they are.. backwards?)04:21
axis^bblColonelKernel, totally04:21
Antinomynalioths_dog: should I install the other one?04:21
axis^bblColonelKernel, : that was my consensus as well04:22
tritiumsn0n, warty: 4.10, hoary: 5.0404:22
ColonelKernellol04:22
axis^bblbeezy04:22
axis^bblbreezy04:22
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rekageneo91: you just installed now?04:22
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axis^bblsounds like a bunch of x-girlfriends to me04:22
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sn0ntritium, yeah, isnt that backwards ? or am i not understanding normal versioning numbers04:22
ColonelKernelyep, prob members of the godfathers stable04:22
Madpilotcan someone tell me how to create .zip files in Ubuntu? there doesn't seem to be anything in the wiki...04:22
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tritiumsn0n, no, it's right.  the first number represents the year, and the second the month in which the release was made.04:22
geneo91i'm going to insall kubuntu now reka04:22
stan-amhey fellas04:23
sn0noo04:23
axis^bbli'm using kubuntu out here in the garage :)04:23
sn0nok04:23
naliothAntinomy: those two repos are not really advised for general use04:23
elmagozizouaxis^bbl, yeah good choise...04:23
rekageneo91: er, ok04:23
axis^bblrunning ubuntu inside on the server right now, untill i get FREEBSD up04:23
Antinomyok. I'm packing it in.04:23
Antinomythis is too complicated.04:23
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IIIEars!desktop04:23
axis^bblN'ite04:23
ubotuIIIEars: I don't know, could you explain it?04:23
stan-amis there a way to add a program to the synaptic repository list???04:23
naliothAntinomy: we're here 24/704:23
Antinomyscore one for windows04:23
axis^bblAntinomy, : what's too complicated04:23
sn0nooo.. 4.1004:23
concept10Madpilot, use archive mabafer04:23
sn0ni thought it was 5.1004:23
sn0nmy bad04:23
Madpilotconcept10: archive what?04:23
stan-amis there a way to add a program to the synaptic repository list???04:24
Antinomyjust want to play the media I play on windows on ubuntu too04:24
concept10Madpilot, sorry about that arhive manager04:24
sn0nuse command line zip  :-p  and man zip04:24
nickrudMadpilot, zip and unzip are in main, i think04:24
jasoncohenAntinomy, can you play it in rhythmbox?04:24
stan-amis there a way to add a program to the synaptic repository list???04:24
naliothAntinomy: you havent asked anything about that04:24
sn0nim slowly learning that man is my friend04:24
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concept10Madpilot, applications, accesories > archive manager04:24
sn0ni never used it much til about a month ago04:24
jasoncohenstan-am, what do you mean? anything installed will show up in synaptic as installed04:25
sn0nthere is sooooo much that can be learned in man04:25
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jasoncohenany .deb installed04:25
CarlFKwhoever wanted wiki help: http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?WelcomeVisitors04:25
rekaMadpilot: i think if you just do 'create archive' through nautlus, and set the extension to zip, it will do it for you.04:25
elmagozizouMy mplayer keep showing me a message averytime I play somethig...the message is about the fonts path...I all ready download the mplayer fonts, and even try reinstaling all off mplayer but doesnt work...any help?04:25
Madpilotconcept10: thnx, found that. I prefer a GUI to the CLI; I know that's un-Linux-ish of me...04:25
sn0nelmagozizou, sure, use Muine ;-)04:25
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sn0nsorry, my preferences are showing thru  :-X04:25
elmagozizousn0n, whats that?04:26
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stan-amjasoncohen: i downloaded amsn and after i did the tar -zxvf *.tar.gz i dont know what else to do with it04:26
sn0nits the mono based music player04:26
axis^bblAntinomy: check your private messages04:26
jasoncohenstan-am, why would you do that- just sudo apt-get install amsn04:27
ubuntuanyone know what the password is for this ubuntu install for root.....04:27
jasoncohenstan-am, search for amsn in synaptic04:27
sn0nstan-am, im guessing running           ./configure && make ** make install   ;-)04:27
jasoncohenstan-am, you were installing from source04:27
Agrajagthere is no root password04:27
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Agrajag!sudo04:27
ubotuit has been said that sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:27
ubuntusu doesnt work??04:27
Madpilotreka: where's the create archive dialog in Naut? and is there a way to get 'create archive' as a right-click-menu option like WinZip in XP does?04:27
Agrajaguse sudo04:27
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sn0nbut then again.. config make makeinstall requires ALOT of dev packages04:27
ubuntudoesnt work04:27
jasoncohenstan-am, you need universe enabled. then you can install amsn from synaptic04:27
stan-amjasoncohen: should i do that inside a specific directory?04:27
jasoncohenstan-am, huh?04:27
Agrajagwhat doesn't work, sudo?04:27
sn0nsudo works04:28
alemanhey set me right on theis one please04:28
sn0nsudo works perfect04:28
rekaMadpilot: exactly.  right click file/folder > create archive..04:28
Agrajagread what the bot said04:28
ubuntufuck this ...going back to fedora04:28
tritiumubuntu, yes it does.  Use your user's passowrd04:28
Agrajag!sudo04:28
ubotusudo is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:28
Agrajagahahahaha04:28
sn0nlol04:28
Agrajagwhat an idiot04:28
CarlFKsn0n you know about apt-get install build-essential ?04:28
sn0nhe just wanted to bitch04:28
jasoncohenstan-am, do you have the universe repository enabled? if so, just start synaptic, search for amsn and install04:28
alemancan I use debian repositories w/ubuntu just like that?04:28
Agrajaghe can HAVE fedora04:28
sn0nCarlFK, there is one of those? lol. i just did a search for dev in name04:28
jasoncohenaleman, no - very bad idea04:28
sn0nand installed all the ones i knew i needed04:28
sn0nlol04:28
stan-amjasoncohen: no i dont04:29
alemanok, thats all I needed04:29
CarlFKsn0n - glad I asked.  now I can eat dinner04:29
sn0nhehe04:29
Madpilotreka: thnx, found it. it doesn't work in the left-hand Naut panel the way I was expecting it to...04:29
axis^bblAntinomy: http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt    - really good guide to setting up media04:29
jasoncohenAntinomy, gstreamer-ffmpeg might solve your problems from hoary-extras04:29
stan-amim doin a google for that jasoncohen04:29
jasoncohenAntinomy, have you tried playing your wma songs in rhythmbox?04:29
jasoncohenstan-am, a google search for what?04:29
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jasoncohenstan-am, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:30
axis^bblwon't mplayer04:30
stan-amhow to enable universe04:30
axis^bblplay wmas04:30
stan-amthnx dude04:30
jasoncohenstan-am, follow the instructions for synaptic...there are screenshots + instructions04:30
axis^bblAntinomy: go to http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt and install mplayer04:30
sn0nlol04:30
sn0nadd universe to the names in synap04:30
sn0nlol04:30
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nalioths_dogstan-am: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:30
sn0ni love all these stupid questions04:30
stan-amgotcha guys04:31
jasoncohenum, don't use ubuntuguide04:31
stan-amthnx04:31
jasoncohenhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto gives better instructions - with explanation04:31
jasoncohenstan-am, after you add universe and reload, search for amsn04:31
jasoncohenand install it04:31
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axis^bblwhat's the name of the file browser ubuntu uses?04:31
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axis^bbls..04:31
Agrajagnautilus04:31
jasoncohenstan-am, you were installing from source which you generally shouldn't do unless you have a need to - if it's not packaged by ubuntu04:31
jasoncohenaxis^bbl, nautilus is gnome's default file browser04:32
stan-amdamn, id luv 2 know how to do it from console04:32
axis^bblok thx.. but  .. how on earth do i change my folder from dissapearing when i open a new one04:32
stan-amdamn windows04:32
stan-amhehe04:32
sn0nstan-am, apt-get install joe04:32
jasoncohenstan-am, apt-get install amsn04:32
axis^bblstan-am, what do you want to do from console04:32
axis^bblapt-get install xmms04:32
jasoncohensn0n, in this case sudo apt-get install amsn04:32
Agrajagaxis^bbl: oh, you'll have to change some stuff in gconf04:33
axis^bbloh yah04:33
axis^bblAgrajag, : gconf04:33
tritiumaxis^bbl, Edit->Preferences->Behavior->Always open in browser windows04:33
Agrajagstart up gconf-editor04:33
sn0nstan-am, joe /etc/apt/sources.conf04:33
stan-amapt-get is the same thing than installing from synaptic after enabling universe?04:33
axis^bbltritium: thank you so much04:33
otepjasoncohen: how frequent were the packages in the repositories updated?04:33
axis^bbland you too Agrajag04:33
tritiumdon't even need gconf-editor04:33
axis^bbl<:04:33
sn0n.list sorry04:33
tritiumsure04:33
axis^bblthats lovely04:33
axis^bblthat'[s what i like04:33
axis^bblless clutter04:33
Agrajagtritium: oh, did they put it in the prefs now?04:33
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tritiumAgrajag, yep :)04:33
AgrajagI never bothered to change it, I like spacial04:33
sn0nstan-am, in the lines with deb http bla bla bla, add universe at the end04:33
Agrajager, spatial04:33
axis^bblUnlike my messages .. sorry bout that trit .. lol.. here.. i was able to do it this time tho04:34
sn0nhit Ctrl + K + D04:34
sn0nthen Ctrl + C04:34
jasoncohenotep, in what repositories? hoary is a stable distribution so it only receives security and critical bug fixes04:34
otephmmm04:34
stan-amyeah i already added universe and im using amsn now04:34
sn0nstan-am, then do a apt-get update04:34
axis^bblAgrajag, : Spatial, what is that ?04:34
otepok04:34
jasoncohenotep, breey, which is the development (unstable) release is constantly upgraded04:34
sn0ni think hes not listening. LoL04:34
sn0ni love spatial04:34
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sn0nbut not how ubuntu does it04:35
stan-amwhats that do sn0n?04:35
sn0ni know i can Shift Click04:35
sn0nbut still04:35
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Agrajagyou know, I'm not seeing an option in nautilus to change that04:35
AgrajagI know it's in gconf04:35
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tritiumAgrajag, Edit->Preferences->Behavior ?04:35
Agrajagnope04:36
tritiumIt's a check box "Always open in browser windows"04:36
sn0nAgrajag, cuz its a ubuntu hack04:36
Agrajagthis is on hoary, I don't use breezy so if it's a new addition I won't see it04:36
Agrajagtritium: uh, that's not the same thing04:36
tritiumAgrajag, this is hoary04:36
axis^bblAgrajag,  I was gonna ask you if it's updated.. but it should be hoary04:36
Agrajaga browser window is a different view04:36
tritiumAgrajag, it's not spatial04:37
axis^bblso konqueror automatically opens up folders in the main window04:37
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axis^bblAgrajag, : just open the folder04:37
axis^bbledit-pref04:37
Agrajagoh, that's not what he asked though, he just wanted it to not close the parent folder04:37
axis^bbloh it's still going to do that04:37
jasoncohenwho doesn't ubuntu enable encryption for vino by default?04:37
sn0nAgrajag, its some silly ubuntu hack that i dont know how to change. its some sourcecode change, not a gui thing04:37
axis^bblAgrajag, : that is what i'm talkin about04:37
Agrajagright, to change that you need to go into gconf-editor04:37
naliothdoes ubuntu support bluetooth?04:37
orbordeYou are now looking at a man who has successfully configured his Ubuntu box to get on the internet through a proxy.04:37
axis^bblalthough they were opening up new folders too which was a pain04:38
Agrajagsn0n: it's easy to change04:38
sn0nhow ?04:38
Agrajaganyone who wants to know how to use spatial nautilus while not closing parent folders:04:38
Agrajagopen a terminal, run "gconf-editor"04:38
rekaorborde: congrats :)04:38
axis^bblnice04:38
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Agrajaggo to /apps/nautilus/preferences04:38
axis^bblrobotgeek,  !!!!04:38
axis^bblyou made it04:39
Agrajagfind the checkbox next to "no_ubuntu_spatial"04:39
sn0noo04:39
sn0nok04:39
sn0nnice04:39
Agrajagcheck it, and close gconf-editor04:39
robotgeekaxis^bbl: :)04:39
axis^bblrobotgeek,  Hoora04:39
axis^bblor in this case, Hoar-ah!04:39
robotgeekstupid wireless!04:39
IIIEarsubotu desktops is ""Ubuntu offers Gnome (default) "gnome-desktop"  or KDE "kubuntu-deskop" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE?highlight=%28kde%29, Here are some other choices. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ http://www.plig.org/xwinman/""04:39
ubotuokay, IIIEars04:39
Agrajagnow the shift-click thing will be reversed, if you do want to close the parent hold shift when opening a folder04:39
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axis^bblAgrajag, : i'm following04:39
Agrajagso that's all you need to do04:39
AntinomyOk, can anyone help me install apps so that I can see all the media I see in windows?04:39
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robotgeekaxis^bbl: i am at home though, still havent found a free shell04:40
axis^bblAgrajag: leet man .. thx04:40
Agrajagjust check that box and it will be done, you don't have to restart anything because gconf is awesome like that04:40
robotgeekaxis^bbl: "applied" for a shell acount though04:40
axis^bblrobotgeek,  i'll work on that tonight04:40
naliothAntinomy: unfortunately, bill gates doesnt want you to see some wmv9 and 10 media04:40
sn0nAgrajag, thnx alot!!!!!04:40
axis^bblrobotgeek, ; yah that's what you'll have to do now04:40
Antinomyok, how about mpg and real?04:40
axis^bblrobotgeek, : they used to be free, walk in go on irc.. but too many script kiddies ruined that04:40
naliothAntinomy: but i can help you with all else04:40
sn0nAgrajag i read that that was a silly source code hack that couldnt be changed.. stupid google04:40
nalioths_dogAntinomy: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support04:41
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axis^bblAgrajag,  wikkid04:41
Antinomyok man, you've been super helpful so far04:41
robotgeekrobotgeek: i know, i was reading.04:41
axis^bblhehe04:41
sn0nunixshell.com is cheap04:41
sn0nnot free04:41
sn0nbut cheap04:41
axis^bblyo04:41
axis^bblyou say you're at home, you're running ubuntu there?!04:41
IIIEarssn0n - sounds good - nice tip04:41
axis^bblrobotgeek,  Are you running ubuntu at home, and you can't use the computers at school?!04:41
sn0nits a VPS04:42
sn0nfull root, bla bla bla04:42
sn0nand HELLA bandwidth for the price04:42
robotgeekrobotgeek: actually on my laptop, the only machine i have.04:42
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axis^bblrobotgeek,  ohh ok .. :)04:42
axis^bblrobotgeek:  man.. go find a pentium 100mhz system out of the garbage .. and use that at home for irc04:43
robotgeekaxis^bbl: not good, but all it means is i don't irc at school04:43
sn0naxis^bbl, LoL04:43
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axis^bbl<:04:43
axis^bblthat's what i did04:43
axis^bbli was like.. hey that looks like a pentium04:43
axis^bblyoink04:43
sn0nhehehe04:43
sn0nremote X on it04:43
robotgeekaxis^bbl: true, maybe a 386 would work...my prof offered me one.04:43
sn0nand its just fine04:43
sn0n;-)04:43
axis^bblrobotgeek,  386.. hmm.04:43
axis^bblrobotgeek,  maybe freebsd or something, if you're savvy at terminal04:44
axis^bbl:)04:44
axis^bblwith* terminal04:44
sn0nhehe04:44
robotgeekrobotgeek: yeah, i am on a term right now :)04:44
axis^bblanybody have a really sweet guide to VM ?04:44
sn0nterminal is a way of life ;-)04:44
axis^bblhehehe04:44
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sn0naxis^bbl, define VM ?04:44
axis^bblsorry04:45
axis^bblmy god typo .. VI04:45
sn0nhehehe04:45
sn0nvimtutor04:45
sn0n?04:45
axis^bblgot vmware on my mind04:45
axis^bblyah? that an ap04:45
axis^bblaoo04:45
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sn0ni believe so04:45
axis^bbli can't type..  geez. i need to make some coffee.. brb04:45
axis^bblsn0n,  sweet, i will def check it out04:45
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sn0nyeah04:45
sn0nits there04:45
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robotgeekaxis^bbl: i spend half of my time reading vim manuals!04:45
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axis^bbli'm getting so sick of powerless text editors04:46
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sn0ni like joe04:46
sn0nlol04:46
sn0nbut im never stuck on a non-X enabled box.. so gedit works for me04:46
axis^bblthats what i used on freebsd.. i've been using pico on ubuntu :X04:46
sn0nlol04:46
ahvargasaxis^bbl:use emacs04:46
sn0newwww to emacs04:46
sn0nif i wanted a full blown OS text editor, id use windows04:46
sn0n;-)04:46
axis^bbli said eww emacs and scrunched up my nose before sn0n  even said that04:46
robotgeekaxis^bbl: vimtutor is a good introduction04:46
cyphaseanyone have any ideas for a good movie to rent?04:47
axis^bblrobotgeek,  awesome04:47
axis^bblwhat is emacs tho ..  gui vi?04:47
sn0nemacs is a OS that wraps a text editor04:48
sn0nlol04:48
axis^bblaxis^bbl i said eww emacs and scrunched up my nose before sn0n  even said that04:48
naliothaxis^bbl: hold your tongue! heh heh04:48
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axis^bblerr04:48
axis^bbli meant to say  remove "said eww"04:48
naliothaxis^bbl: emacs and vi have very ardent users04:48
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nalioththey will fight to the death at any slight04:48
sn0ni say fuck em both, and use a good GUI editor  ;-)04:48
axis^bblso i meant to say "i scrunched my nose when emacs was said"04:48
axis^bblnalioth: lol04:48
axis^bblnalioth, : will it be a good show like spock vs kirk?04:49
axis^bblbrbbrbr ahhhh brrr ahhhhhh04:49
sn0nnothings better then something i can use a mouse to get around on  ;-)04:49
axis^bblbrbrbrbr ahhhhh brbr ahhhhhh04:49
axis^bbli like the shift-cursor too much04:49
axis^bbli use the mouse when i'm lazy and surfing04:49
travelleris there an update source that will bring my packages to more recent versions?04:49
robotgeeklol04:49
robotgeeki would emacs if i had 4 hands, but i dont!04:49
jasoncohentraveller, what are you trying to upgrade?04:50
axis^bbltraveller: edit /etc/apt/sources.conf   uncomment everything, "apt-get update"04:50
sn0nlol robot04:50
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abarbacciahey- can someone help me get my rio carbon supported in ubuntu? ive heard it being done in breezy but nothin with hoary04:50
travellerjasoncohen: basically everything...firefox is only 1.0.2, gaim is only 1.1.404:50
axis^bbltraveller, " apt-get install upgrade-dist04:50
jasoncohenaxis^bbl, that won't allow him to upgrade. that'll just give him more repositories04:50
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jasoncohentraveller, yeah, but you have a patched version of firefox up to 10.4 security updates and gaim is patched through 1.3.104:50
axis^bbljasoncohen, : apt-get upgrade-dist ?04:51
jasoncohenapt-get dist-upgrade actually is the command04:51
axis^bblk04:51
axis^bblthats how you updae, rite?04:51
axis^bbli knew if i spit out some half info, someone would jump in to save him04:51
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axis^bbl<:04:51
jasoncohenyou shouldn't give people advise if you don't know what you're talking about. that command doesn't upgrade the distribution unless you change sources.list04:51
travellerjasoncohen: you mean gaim 1.1.4 is actually 1.3.1? and firefox is 1.0.4?04:51
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axis^bbljasoncohen, : advice? ok04:52
_franktraveller: as far as security goes, yeah04:52
jasoncohentraveller, no- it's 1.1.4 with security patches from later versions and 1.0.2 with security patches from later versions04:52
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axis^bbli was just .. adding vice04:52
travellerjasoncohen: hm...ok04:52
sn0nwait.. what gets me the new firefox and gaim ?04:52
sn0napt-get install upgrade-dist04:52
jasoncohenaxis^bbl, and no one should be upgrading to breezy yet. it's broken. xorg doesn't work04:52
sn0n?04:52
sn0nim on hoary04:52
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sn0nand have everythign updated04:52
_franktraveller you can get updated versions of programs through backports04:52
sn0nand gaim is still old as shit04:52
axis^bblhehe04:52
sn0nand firefox is like 1.0.204:52
jasoncohentraveller, https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/usn/errorreferencefolder_view04:52
traveller_frank: is that a good thing to do?04:52
tritiumsn0n, with 1.0.4 security patches04:52
tritium!firefox04:52
ubotuFirefox on warty is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"04:52
sn0noo04:53
sn0nok ;-)04:53
axis^bbli want to get/make a plugin for gaim.. "what i'm listening too .."04:53
robotgeekaxis^bbl: gaim-xmms exists, and works :)04:53
jasoncohenthat's not true about warty- only about hoary04:53
sn0naxis^bbl, there is a perl framework i think. gaim.sf.net04:53
_franktraveller: It's reasonably tested. The packages are made for ubuntu. But still you should only use if you need it04:53
axis^bblrobotgeek,  oh my04:53
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jasoncohenwarty didn't get security updates from 1.0.404:53
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axis^bbl[=04:53
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vladuz976hi does anybody know if there is a japanese ubuntu channel?04:54
ahvargasdoes anyone knows about xdiv in ubuntu04:54
traveller_frank: ok, i'll have a look at what's inside, thanks04:54
ahvargas?04:54
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Ka234are their any repositories that have firefox/thunderbird 1.0.6?04:54
gp_aaron|upstairis there lighttpd in the repo04:54
naliothvladuz976: #ubuntu-jp04:55
jasoncohenKa234, not yet, if you really need it you can just install it from mozilla's site04:55
naliothKa234: those are VERY new04:55
jasoncohenit's easy to install04:55
jasoncohen1.0.6 came out today04:55
vladuz976nalioth: i don't think that exists. just tried04:55
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Ka234thank you04:55
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naliothvladuz976: then no, there is not one04:55
robotgeekKa234: 1.0.6 is not released yet!04:55
jasoncohenyes it is04:55
_frankits just much better to always use .deb packages when possible though04:56
jasoncohenrobotgeek, lol - i'm running 1.0.6!!04:56
axis^bblgandharvas04:56
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jasoncohenKa234, wait until 1.0.6 is backported to hoary-backports or wait for the fixes from 1.0.5 to be backported to 1.0.2 in hoary-security04:56
robotgeeki dint know 1.0.6 was out.sorry04:56
Ka234ok04:56
naliothrobotgeek: yes, its smokin hot new04:57
robotgeek:)04:57
axis^bblmmm  ;.. xmms04:57
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vladuz976does anybody know how long it will take for 1.0.6 to come to backports05:00
sn0n19273 days05:00
axis^bblhehe05:00
Antinomycan anyone help me with a sunbird install?05:00
enumanyone use atiixp sound drivers?05:00
axis^bbl26hr, 4 mins 28 seconds 21 nanoseconds remain05:01
sn0nAntinomy, i belive it comes with a linux precompiled self installer05:01
naliothAntinomy: iirc, sunbird requires compiling05:01
enumI seem to get sound on gnome loading.. but not while in the desktop session05:01
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naliothbah05:01
[4dm|n___] guy's how to mount flash disk05:01
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sn0n[4dm|n___] , plug it in  :-p05:01
AntinomyI know. I have the feel for Syn, so now I wanted to try a self install.05:01
[4dm|n___] and05:01
nalioth_zZzAntinomy: you can find me tomorrow05:01
[4dm|n___] plug and ?05:01
sn0nubuntu and gnome auto mounts05:01
Antinomynaliothgood night, chief, and thanks again!05:02
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axis^bblanyone know if 6.1 works or video out ??05:02
[4dm|n___] it will be appear on my desktop ??05:02
axis^bbl[=05:02
sn0notherwise sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda# /mountpoint05:02
axis^bbl6.1 sound05:02
sn0n[4dm|n___] , it should, yeah05:02
[4dm|n___] ok05:02
[4dm|n___] i'll try05:02
Internatdev/hdb5       /mnt/fdrive     auto    rw,auto         0       0       <== that seem a valid entry for fstap to auto mount one of my drives?05:02
Internatfstab*05:03
robotgeekaxis^bbl: :)05:03
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axis^bbl              hahaha05:03
Ka234how do I upgrade the Linux kernel will that be on the backports?05:04
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tritiumKa234, to which version?05:05
Proteque_Internat: not sure about the first auto.05:05
Proteque_Internat: I allways say what filesystem it is05:05
sn0nim not liking this vimtutor05:05
sn0nlol05:05
sn0nits annoying! ;-)05:05
sn0ni want my joe and gedit05:05
sn0nlol05:05
Ka234tritium, the latest05:05
Proteque_sn0n: vim <305:06
Will_sn0n: best thing to do is remap your arrow keys to flash a 'Stop using me!' message05:06
tritiumKa234, you're best off building your own, then with kernel-package05:06
Ka234how do I do that?05:06
dabaR hey05:06
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sn0nwhats undo in vi ?05:07
Will_sn0n: +you will find vi, or vim on every linux and unix like computer _evar_05:07
Will_u05:07
sn0nthnx05:07
robotgeeksn0n: vim rocks!05:07
sn0nWill_, i know, but i'll also find pico, nano, or joe also  ;-)05:07
daba1so, you really think Ubuntu is the best distro out there right now to be #1 on all distrowatch boards? Even better than Debian?05:07
sn0ni like simple editors, vi is just complicated.. LoL05:08
Will_sn0n: Not on a lot of systems.05:08
sn0ndaba1, Ubuntu is debian you oaf05:08
daba1bah05:08
daba1dont talk to me like that #1.05:08
sn0nwell.. you asked..05:08
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robotgeekvi is the *roxors*!05:08
daba1but, it is not, I mean,t ehre is debian, and tehre is ubuntu, neither ubuntu ppl nor debian ppl would agree with you on that.05:08
daba1I asked, I didnt not say call me an oaf.05:08
sn0nand distrowatch dont rate distros, it rates POPULARITY  ;-)05:09
tritiumKa234, see the KernelHowto linked on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation05:09
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robotgeeksn0n: and only number of hits05:09
daba1sn0n: now that is a reason I can accept, thank you.05:09
Ka234ok thanks tritium!05:09
sn0ndaba1, actually... debain AND ubuntu.. are the same.. so buggers off05:09
Kris_workhello, while I was at work today after a huge fight with my wife, a large portion of the files on my web server mysteriously vanished. Does anyone know if ubuntu logs things like files being deleted? :-/05:09
daba1dont be like that, go read the ubuntu code of conduct.05:09
sn0nWill_, you callin me a troll?  ;-)05:09
Will_I say nothing05:10
tritiumsn0n, please mind the Code of Conduct05:10
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sn0nbla05:10
sn0nlol05:10
sn0nthere is a code of conduct ?05:10
dbernar1no, thanks for the answer, just be nicer, so...05:10
sn0n:: unzips ::05:10
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sn0n:: aims ::05:10
tritiumsn0n, yes05:10
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sn0nlol05:10
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sn0ni do follow some general guidelines in life, but i dont like independant rules.. ;-)05:11
dbernar1If you care: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct .05:11
ivan_qki finished to install ubuntu, anybody can help me about how i can upgrade openofiice to 2.0 version?05:11
desrtis there a way that i can give apt a .deb file and tell it to install it properly with all its dependancies?05:11
tritiumsn0n, we all have rules we have to live with05:11
dbernar1ivan_qk: is it in apt?05:11
desrtie: instead of tossing it to dpkg -i and screwing up my system...05:11
sn0ntritium, now always. ;-)05:11
ivan_qkyes05:11
ivan_qki did this05:12
Kris_workI'll take that as a no :-/05:12
_frankdesrt: dpkg -i wont screw up. It will tell you what you need05:12
ivan_qksudo apt-get install openofiice.org05:12
dbernar1ivan_qk: open synaptic, to start.05:12
desrt_frank; right.  any way to get those things installed automatically?05:12
ivan_qkand show me message with "openoffice is already up to version"05:12
Will_Kris_work: Not that I know of. Maybe ask your wife?05:12
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dbernar1ivan_qk: then once in synaptic, use the search to search for openoffice05:13
Kris_work she denies it of course, that's why I'm trying to figure out of it was her who did it05:13
_frankdesrt: I'm not sure how to do it when you start from a .deb file05:13
desrt_frank; me neither :/05:13
dbernar1Kris_work: :-/ ....05:13
sn0nyeah, id prolly have to ask my girlfriend.. LoL05:13
Kris_workand if it wasn't, which of the handful of people who had access05:13
Will_Kris_work: samba? that has logs05:13
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dbernar1I mean, it sure is strange given the circumstances05:13
sn0nthats what happened last time my treasure trove of porn went *poof*05:13
Krisshe's the only one who has motive05:13
dbernar1ivan_qk: openoffice.org2 is the package.05:13
ivan_qkahhh05:13
robotgeeksn0n: i always chmod -x my porn!05:13
sn0nLoL05:14
ivan_qkok05:14
Kristhis is more like several months of 3d modeling work that she's very jealous of05:14
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dbernar1ivan_qk: so, synaptic helps with searches like that.05:14
ivan_qklet me do that05:14
sn0ni've learned to remote X it, and store it on a offsite server05:14
sn0n;-)05:14
dbernar1sure05:14
Krisanyway05:14
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Krislooking through samba logs now05:14
dbernar1kris, does she have root access?05:14
tritiumivan_qk, so does apt-cache search05:14
Krisdoes vftpd have a log somewhere?05:14
Krisdbernar1 she doesn't know how to ssh in05:14
tritiumKris, look under /var/log05:14
dbernar1so, she can not at all even access then?05:15
Krisbut samba does have root access because the only people that use it are myself and my wife :-/05:15
ivan_qklol sorry, i dunno understand very much05:15
dbernar1aha, ya, ok, well, look into it. I dont think there is undelete in Linux.:(05:15
ivan_qkcommand are very dificult to me yet05:15
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Krisok the samba logs only show errors05:15
dbernar1sorry to hear that, it is a good lesson to learn, tho...altho backup lessons are everywhere...05:15
Krisnot successful commands :-/05:16
Krisindeed05:16
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Krisalso the design doc for the game I'm working on was in there too :(05:16
dbernar1ivan_qk: they made almost everything GUI in Ubuntu, I think.05:16
KrisI'd link you to the web site but that's gone now05:16
dbernar1aw, man, thats so sad...05:16
Will_That's hard.05:16
=== tritium consoles Kris
=== dbernar1 too.
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Will_It's 4am. I'm thinking of going for a run05:17
Krisyeah no one has used ftp in the last three days05:17
ivan_qksynaptic dont let me to select openoffice.org2 to install it05:17
ivan_qk:s05:17
Krisand no one has shell access except me05:17
Krisso it had to be samba05:17
Krisgrrrrr05:17
Kriswell I guess that's my answer05:17
Krisshe says maybe there's a virus05:17
dbernar1ivan_qk: what does it say?05:17
Krisyeah right05:17
_frankivan_qk: is there an errot message05:18
Krisanway, thanks for help finding the logs05:18
dbernar1ya, I guess...05:18
Krisfarewell!05:18
ivan_qkya ok05:18
dbernar1see ya.05:18
sn0nKris, they allways say that05:18
ivan_qki do that in console05:18
Madpilota virus? on a linux machine? heh...05:18
Krisnow to look up whether ubuntu can get viruses...05:18
sn0nKris, LoL05:18
ivan_qkwith command that u give me05:18
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ivan_qkso, going to download 88 MB05:18
dbernar1ivan_qk: tell us the error message first.05:18
dbernar1oh, it works command line?05:18
MadpilotI think he had a virus called "angry wife", myself...05:18
ivan_qknothing error, just dont let me select box05:19
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dbernar1ya, too bad, tho, I mean, months of work...05:19
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dbernar1ivan_qk: ok, cool, so you downloading now?05:19
ivan_qkyes05:19
dbernar1good, that should be it.05:19
TecnoVM64hello, i wonder if anybody knows how to make a sis 7012 sound card work?05:19
ivan_qku think05:19
ivan_qkthis is my first linux distro05:20
TecnoVM64its the only problem i have with ubuntu05:20
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Madpilotdoes OOo2 install on top of 1.x, or is it a complete second install?05:20
tritiumMadpilot, you can have both05:20
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Madpilottritium: and they'll show up as seperate programs? cool. I like what I've seen of OO205:20
tritiumMadpilot, yes05:20
Madpilot!sound05:21
ubotusound is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206305:21
dbernar1TecnoVM64: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary?highlight=%28sound%29 ,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28sound%29 as well05:21
MadpilotTecnoVM64: see the URL that ubotu just posted05:21
dbernar1the second one is done by the expert, I think:)05:21
ChandonSo... Just got a new laptop. Apparently support for it's sound card requires ALSA 1.09 ; Additionally, I'd like my Intel 2915 wireless card to work. Is there any way to do this without resorting to a custom kernel/ALSA build?05:22
robotgeekChandon: :(05:22
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dbernar1maybe, Chandon, check out the URLs above, to see if that helps.05:23
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tritiumChandon, you can likely avoid the kernel build, but some have had to build newer alsa modules.05:23
robotgeekChandon: you can just build the alsa modules and overwrite the ones u have05:23
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Chandontritium, Is it possible to build new alsa modules with just packaged kernel headers?05:24
tritiumChandon, exactly (and alsa-source as well)05:24
TecnoVM64ubotu, dbernar1, Madpilot, thanks, im going to try it now05:24
ubotuTecnoVM64: Are you smoking crack?05:24
dbernar1ok05:25
TecnoVM64O.o05:25
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dbernar1he is a bot05:25
TecnoVM64hehe lol sorry then05:25
funkyHatHAHAHAA05:25
dbernar1thats fine...05:25
robotgeek:))05:25
dbernar1many dont get it right away.05:25
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dbernar1while we are at bots, I just joined #debian, and dpkg is not there?!05:26
MadpilotTecnoVM64: uBOTu can't help itself... ;)05:26
funkyHatubotu, i think it's you that's smoking crack05:26
ubotufunkyHat: Are you smoking crack?05:26
dbernar1he wants some, I think.05:26
funkyHatyes ubotu, want some?05:26
Madpilotmy favourite ubotu trick:05:27
Madpilot!start a language war05:27
ubotuRuby is better than C++!05:27
funkyHat:D05:27
TecnoVM64hahah05:27
robotgeek!vi05:27
uboturobotgeek: Are you smoking crack?05:27
funkyHat:D:D:D05:27
danielsno language flamewars here, please05:27
danielsoh great, a bot doing that05:27
danielsplease don't play with the bot05:27
Madpilotdaniels: but ubotu started it! honest!05:27
robotgeekdaniels: :)05:27
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dbernar1daniels, do you know where dpkg is?05:28
dbernar1is it something exciting, or just maintenance?05:28
danielsdbernar1: i had no idea it was even in this channel05:29
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SirPenguinTheDuchi guys....i have a super quick questions05:30
Mobus#xmms05:30
dbernar1no, it is now.05:30
dbernar1it is not, sorry.05:30
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tritiumSirPenguinTheDuc, go ahead and ask :)05:31
SirPenguinTheDucum.....will this run on an intel 486?05:31
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dbernar1it was not that quick.05:31
tritiumyep05:31
dbernar1:)05:31
dbernar1the answer was...05:31
SirPenguinTheDucjus checkin05:31
MadpilotI think someone should program "start an editor war" into ubotu, that'll really get people excited... <evil grin>05:31
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dbernar1ya, my editor is better than yours, very exciting:)05:32
robotgeekare there logs of this channel maintained somewhere05:32
robotgeekdbernar1: it is!05:32
tritiumyes, robotgeek05:32
MadpilotLinux people seem to take their editors very seriously, I've noticed...05:32
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dbernar1Madpilot: ya, I notice linux attracts many opinionated people, also very stubborn, and narrow minded.05:33
robotgeekyeah, i now use my vim on windows, and even in microsoft word!05:33
robotgeektritium: where, though>05:33
dbernar1maybe cause of the freedom thing.05:33
dbernar1!seen ubuntulog05:34
ubotudbernar1: i haven't seen 'ubuntulog'05:34
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dbernar1well, I see him right here.05:34
MobusOk I habe a little problem with my GLIB, can anyone help me with this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/68505:34
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dbernar1my links dont work in epiphany.05:35
dbernar1I know how to fix it I think tho.05:35
dbernar1ha, Im good.05:35
tritiumrobotgeek, one of the devs keeps the logs.05:35
dbernar1Mobus: compiling it?05:35
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MobusI'm configuring for a compile, thats what that error was from yes05:36
Mobusfor xmms05:36
robotgeektritium: i was planning to wrtie another bot, which learns the common questions ppl ask and reply when it's sure, i tht the logs might be a good place to start05:37
dbernar1so you are compiling glib05:37
Mobusno05:37
dbernar1is that exactly what it is called? is it in apt?05:37
Mobusreworx that please05:37
Madpilotrobotgeek: an auto-answering bot might get swamped in a channel like this05:37
Mobusreword*05:37
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tritiumrobotgeek, I'm not sure if I should be advertising the log location publicly.  I'd have to ask first.05:38
Mobuswith less pronouns05:38
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dbernar1what is the package you are compiling called, is there a binary version in any of the repositories.05:38
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drcodehi all05:38
jago25_98How do I put this computer into sleep mode?05:38
Mobusthe package I am compiling is xmms-1.2.1005:38
dbernar1ok.05:39
MobusI already compiled glib-1.2.205:39
dbernar1jago25_98: does log out>sleep work?05:39
robotgeektritium: that okay, it's for a project which i would be starting abt 2 months down the line05:39
tritiumrobotgeek, ok, I'll find out for you05:39
robotgeekMadpilot: "intelligence"05:39
robotgeektritium: thanks05:39
jago25_98dbernar1: nope, looks like not in kde05:39
eyequeueii  xmms           1.2.10+cvs200505:40
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tritiumjago25_98, you may have to uncomment line 2 of /etc/default/acpi-support (ACPI_SLEEP=true)05:40
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vaderhey there tritium05:41
eyequeueFilename: pool/main/x/xmms/xmms_1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu1_i386.deb05:41
eyequeueFilename: pool/main/x/xmms/xmms_1.2.10-2ubuntu1_i386.deb05:41
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dbernar1nice.05:41
eyequeueMobus:  why not just sudo apt-get install xmms05:41
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tritiumhi vader05:42
Mobusit says it can't find xmms package05:42
vadervader= kevin dude05:42
Mobusbut IO'll try it again05:42
Mobusroot@Mobus:/home/mobus/xmms-1.2.10 # sudo apt-get install xmms05:43
MobusReading package lists... Done05:43
MobusBuilding dependency tree... Done05:43
MobusPackage xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:43
MobusThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:43
Mobusis only available from another source05:43
MobusE: Package xmms has no installation candidate05:43
IIIEars!pastebin05:43
ubotupastebin is probably at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood05:43
tritiumMobus, please don't paste in the channel.  Use pastebin or #flood05:43
eyequeueMobus:  see  http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/sound/xmms05:43
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Mobussry05:43
tritiumvader, do I know you?05:43
vaderyes, I am usually here as kevin05:43
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tritiumokay, nice to see you, kevin :)05:44
vader;)05:44
dbernar1Mobus: xmms=very standard.05:44
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robotgeekdbernar1: xmms keeps skipping :(05:44
eyequeueMobus:  it is in main, so needs no aditional repositories even05:44
robotgeekdbernar1: i use vlc :)05:44
syndhow can i get rid of the window around terminal?05:45
syndto give the "integrated into the desktop" look05:45
eyequeuesynd:  alt-ctrl-f205:45
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aruView > Full Screen?05:45
syndeyequeue: same to get it back?05:45
eyequeuesynd:  alt-ctrl-f705:45
dbernar1hehe, not exactly what he means, prolly, but his question is a little undefined.05:46
aruI just have one fullscreen on my second desktop, incase I need to break stuff05:46
aruhe clicked the close button05:46
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vadertomorrow morning I will probly be here, going to need help moding my menu lists05:47
abarbacciahey all - anybody here use a rio mp3 player?05:47
vaderlol05:47
IIIEarsCan you add transparency to the terminal?05:47
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syndIIIEars, yes05:48
IIIEarsReally? - co-ol!05:48
dbernar1but only for the desktop, windows under it wont be shown in gnome.05:48
syndsynd, but its a false transparency05:48
rommerhow can i run a command automatically when the computer boots?05:48
IIIEarssimilar to x-chat - yes?05:48
syndIIIEars*05:48
syndyes05:48
teferiIIIEars: yeah, it'll show you your desktop background, but not any intervening windows05:48
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teferiit's the same terminal widget - zvt05:49
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IIIEarsIs it easy to do?05:49
wenzhuoit seems to me that the index files of hoary-security/universe and hoary/universe are broken.05:49
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funkyHatno, you can add a crappy background 'transparency', i'm afraid that's as good as it gets on X ;)05:49
teferiyeah, that's what we're talking about05:49
ChandonDoing this the hard way is going to be easier. What are the gotchas for building a custom kernel on Ubuntu?05:49
Mobusok that didn't work05:49
wenzhuoanybody here experiences the same problem?05:49
funkyHati know :D05:49
teferione day, we'll finally have fast RENDER performance05:49
IIIEarslinks, pointers, tips?05:49
teferi...and one day, pigs will fly and we'll all cavort about on the big rock candy mountain05:49
syndso how does one rid the window around terminal05:50
teferiIIIEars: for gnome-terminal?05:50
funkyHatone windows feature i miss, alpha05:50
arusynd: View > Fullscreen?05:50
tritiumChandon, you don't want to just build alsa modules?05:50
teferiedit->current profile->effects05:50
IIIEarsyes please, - adding transparency sounds pretty good. :005:50
wenzhuogzip: stdin: not in gzip format   Err http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages05:50
syndaru: i dont want it fullscreen.05:50
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IIIEars:)05:50
teferifunkyHat: well, whatshisface is rewriting the X acceleration architecture to make RENDER fast, isn't he?05:50
funkyHatwho what?05:50
funkyHatok, sounds goood05:51
syndso how does one rid the window around terminal. anyone?05:51
MadpilotIIIEars: in Terminal, Edit-Current Profile then Effects tab05:51
funkyHatum, you can do it synd i know.....05:51
syndfunkyHat: i know it can be done05:51
syndfunkyHat: just not sure how05:51
Chandontritium, There are a couple things I get out of a custom kernel like swsusp. That, and I'm having trouble figuring out how to build alsa modules that will work with the stock kernel.05:51
rommerhow can i run a command automatically when the computer boots?05:52
IIIEarsMadpilot - Thank You. - that was just too easy - grin05:52
IIIEarsnice05:52
MadpilotIIIEars: np. looks a bit funny - OK, a lot funny - over another full-screen program, though...05:52
wenzhuoThe package indexes of hoary-security/universe and hoary/universe are broken!05:52
syndrommer: in a console, you do sudo <command> -m05:52
tritiumChandon, you can enable suspend-to-ram in /etc/default/acpi-support (uncomment #SLEEP=true)05:52
syndrommer: iirc05:52
arusynd: wouldnt fullscreen work?05:53
syndaru: i dont want it fullscreen05:53
arutakes the window away05:53
rommeriirc?05:53
syndaru: yes, it does. and i knew that previously05:53
Chandontritium, That'd be close, if it really works.05:53
arusynd: problem solved! :)05:54
syndaru: it actually just pushes the border outside of where you can see. its still there05:54
tritiumChandon, ymmv, but it works brilliantly for me05:54
=== aru hmms
syndrommer: if i remember correctly05:54
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Chandontritium, That still leaves me with the problem of getting ALSA 1.09 kernel modules working with my ubuntu-2.6.10 kernel.05:54
syndaru: no, my problem is not solved.05:54
aruweird05:55
syndaru: correct05:55
Mobusok does sudo apt-get install xmms work for anyone else?05:55
syndanyone know?05:55
tritiumChandon, yes, not the most fun05:55
wenzhuocan anybody here verify if the package indexes are ok?05:55
syndMobus: if you have the correct repositories, it should05:55
IIIEarshmm - also an app called "alltray" - Worth trying?05:55
aruView > Fullscreen works here :)05:55
Mobusrepositories?05:55
tritiumMobus, it's in main, so it should work for everyone05:55
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Mobusbut it didn't work for me05:56
Krisok I'm back with another question05:56
syndaru: you are missing something i made clear. i dont want fullscreen terminal.05:56
Krisare there any undelete programs out there for linux?05:56
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syndundelete programs?05:56
tritiumMobus, did you update your list of packages first (i.e. sudo apt-get update)?05:56
Krisany kind of file recovery stuffs05:56
aruinteresting05:56
thechitowncubshey everyone, i'm looking for someone that knows how to make nautilus scripts to help me make a script that uploads images to imageshack such as this tool http://reg.imageshack.us/content.php?page=quickload05:56
Mobusno not yet... I'll do that05:56
tritiumKris, "apt-cache search undelete"05:57
Chandontritium, When I do give in and build a custom kernel, what's going to go horribly wrong?05:57
Mobusdid it... same error05:57
Krisok, will that let me undelete things that were maliciously deleted by my wife via samba earlier today? :-/05:57
syndaru: you're bugging me05:57
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aruok05:57
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tritiumChandon, not sure how to answer that.  I'd suggest using kernel-package if you decide to build your own kernel.05:57
IIIEarssynd - take a peek at "alltray" - quite a few powerful options. - haven't tried it just saw it a min ago.05:57
Mobusok I updated my package list, and it didn't wokr05:58
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robotgeekChandon: you can build the kernel module, but not install them05:58
syndIIIEars: ah, nice. will do. thanks!05:58
IIIEarshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38938 alltray05:58
thechitowncubsdid anyone look at that link?05:58
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Chandonrobotgeek, I'm stuck on "error: your kernel has built in ALSA" when I try to ./configure05:59
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tritiumChandon, crimsun is the man to talk to.  He's the resident alsa expert06:00
robotgeekChandon: oops, they din't build alsa as a module06:00
Chinmanhow to input chinese in ubuntu?06:00
robotgeekChandon: Chandon, most likely u need to custom kernel compile06:00
ChandonSo... I guess the question is: does kernel-package work any differently on Ubuntu than on Debian?06:01
tritiumChandon, pretty much the same.06:01
desrtyou don't need to do that06:01
robotgeekChandon: i would't think so, though i havent rebuilt my kernel on ubuntu06:01
desrtyou can use the alsa-source06:01
tritiumhe doesn't want to06:01
desrtah06:01
Mobusok how do I get spt-get install xmms to work?06:02
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Chinmanapt-get -f install06:02
rekano06:03
tritiumMobus, what's happening when you try?06:03
rommerwhat is heartbeat?06:03
rekaMobus: what error are you getting?06:03
robotgeekrommer: powerbook?06:03
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hacked`guys06:03
rommerno06:03
hacked`can i install any mini pci nic on my laptop ?06:03
thechitowncubshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/JapaneseInputHowto06:03
hacked`or are only "some" supported06:03
desrtsome06:04
thechitowncubshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/JapaneseInputHowto06:04
thechitowncubschinman click that06:04
desrthacked`; search for "wireless" on the wiki for a list06:04
hacked`why some06:04
hacked`desrt, im talking about my laptop, not ubuntu06:04
Mobushttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/68606:04
dbernar1hacked....06:04
hacked`can i go out and buy any mini pci wifi card for my laptop06:04
robotgeekrommer: what u toalking about?06:05
Mobusany ideas on how to solve that problem?06:05
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robotgeekrommer: talking06:05
desrthacked`; why are you  asking in here, then?06:05
hacked`cause i have 1 cheap laptop and 1 decent laptop, and the cheap laptop has the better wifi card, and i want to swap cards06:05
dbernar1Mobus: paste your sources.list to pastebin06:05
hacked`desrt, because the cheaper card is better supported by ubuntu06:05
bimberihacked`: Information regarding support for various cards - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards06:05
desrtah06:05
rommerrobotgeek: sudo apt-cache search heartbeat06:05
Mobuswehre's my sources.list?06:05
desrtbimberi; cheers06:05
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desrtMobus; /etc/apt06:06
Mobusok06:06
dbernar1rommer, asked synaptic?06:06
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tritiumrommer, don't need sudo with apt-cache :)06:06
IIIEarshacked - Give it a try. - ubuntu supports most wifi without any problems06:06
desrtMobus; you can use synaptic to add/remove repositories06:06
bimberidesrt: np :)06:06
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rommertritium: yea, habit06:06
robotgeekrommer: sorry,no idea06:06
Chinmanthechitowncubs: i mean chinese. anyway, i will have a look at that. thanks06:06
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tritiumrommer, cool :)06:07
thechitowncubsChinman: it might work with chinese it says06:07
IIIEarshacked - if it worked with the live CD it will undoubtedly work with the HD install.  If it doesn't right off a little tweaking will make things right.06:07
Mobushttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/68706:07
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thechitowncubshey everyone, i'm looking for someone that knows how to make nautilus scripts to help me make a script that uploads images to imageshack such as this tool http://reg.imageshack.us/content.php?page=quickload06:07
Mobussources.list ^06:07
rekaMobus: hehe. replace your sources.list with the one here :http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38, then 'sudo apt-get update'06:08
robotgeekthechitowncubs: nautilus has scripting?06:08
thechitowncubsuh ya06:08
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rekaMobus: you only have the CD as your source of packages. :)06:08
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syndIIIEars: whats was the name of that?06:08
thechitowncubsChinman: http://www.ubuntu.org.cn/06:09
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glickscuse me how do i get nvu06:09
glickit doesnt seem to be in any of the repositories06:09
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Mobusok now its giving me this BS that I'm not the owner06:09
IIIEarsalltray? - yep, couldn't find it with synaptic only the link in ubuntu forums. (shrug)06:09
helpmeplshello how to disable MySQL password ??06:09
desrtMobus; you need to be root to edit it06:09
syndIIIEars: got that forum link? i accidentally hit alt+f4 :/06:09
rekaMobus: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:09
MobusThen why did ubuntu never give me a root account when I installed It?06:09
funkyHatglick, download the .package from nvu.com06:10
helpmeplshello06:10
MobusI only have one account on the comp06:10
rekaMobus: b/c it's disabled by default06:10
glickfunkyHat, damn :(06:10
glickfunkyHat, is nvu even any good06:10
glick?06:10
reka!tell Mobus about rootsudo06:10
glickis it worth getting?06:10
funkyHatglick, it's easy to do, trust me :)06:10
glickfunkyHat, no i mean is the program decent?06:10
helpmeplshello how to disable MySQL password ??06:10
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desrthelpmepls; repeating yourself is rude.  you might want to ask in a more appropriate channel06:11
funkyHati don't really use it much, but it seems pretty good06:11
helpmeplscan help me pls06:11
hacked`anyone ever set a wifi card to monitor mode before?06:11
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desrthelpmepls; if nobody answers it's because nobody knows.  see if you can find the mysql irc channel06:11
tzuqrisok06:11
tzuqrissound is very important to me06:11
desrthelpmepls; someone there would probably know06:11
Mobusok I changed sources.list06:11
funkyHatgenerates much much cleaner code than dreamweaver or frontpage too06:11
Mobuswhat the command for update now?06:12
helpmeplsi was searching on google06:12
tzuqrisif i can't get sound up in ubuntu i go back to slackware06:12
helpmeplsbut not found06:12
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Mobussudo apt-get update?06:12
desrtweird06:12
desrti just typed /join #mysql06:12
desrtand there it was06:12
desrt....06:12
rekaMobus: yes06:12
helpmeplsk06:12
desrtgood luck06:12
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Mobusok its updating06:13
desrti hate when people have typos in their quit messages06:14
rekaMobus: also, you might want to install beep-media-player instead of xmms...it's prettier06:14
desrtyou can't tell them about it and by the time they come back you never remember06:14
Mobusnah, I like winamp06:14
desrtskip that stuff06:15
desrtinstall muine :)06:15
tzuqrisok06:15
tzuqristhen06:15
tzuqrisi am now leaving ubuntu06:15
glickdoes anyone here use nvu or is there something better/easier?06:15
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rekaMobus: it's an xmms clone06:15
desrttzuqris; ciao.  see you later.06:15
desrtIIIEars; your quit message has a typo in it :)06:15
funkyHatglick, try it out anyway06:15
tzuqrisyou guys are great too06:15
bimberi:)06:15
tzuqrisrather than help me...you say bye...06:15
tzuqrisok06:15
desrttzuqris; we love ya :)06:15
tzuqrisslackware is better anyway06:15
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MobusYAY!06:16
dabartzuqris: what do you need?06:16
funkyHatgood, bye then06:16
tzuqrisnada06:16
tzuqrisgoing back to slack06:16
desrtpeace, d00d06:16
dabarok, what did you need?06:16
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tzuqrissound works fine06:16
desrtare you leaving or what?06:16
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tritiumignore the troll06:16
IIIEarsheh - Thanks for noticing it. - eye canned spell. - ispell corrects words but interferes with nick completion. - you guys are stuck with me. - lol06:16
tzuqrisbut i can't get anything but static06:16
dabaroh, trolling?06:16
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desrtIIIEars; :)06:16
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dabartzuqris: well, there are entries in the wiki, and on the forums about sound...06:17
dabarsearch for sound.06:17
glickalso, how can i convert big as images to jpegs?06:17
glicki mean to thumbnails06:17
tritiumtzuqris, see the User Documentation in the topic.  There are very useful wiki pages.06:17
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desrtglick; install imagemagick06:17
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desrtglick; it has this nifty 'convert' program in it that does thumbnails06:18
tzuqrisi've tried forums and stuff guys06:18
glickkick ass06:18
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tritiumtzuqris, did you check out the User Documentation?06:18
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desrtglick; i think the command is something like convert original.jpeg -resize 100x100 thumb.jpeg06:18
tritiumor search the wiki?06:18
glicknice06:18
desrtglick; to make an image that's at most 100x100 (ie: will preserve aspect ratio)06:18
glickdesrt, is there an easier way to make quick and dirty html other thean nvu?06:19
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mgcrosstzuqris: what's your sound card?06:19
desrti don't know what nvu is06:19
glicki dont know shit about shit abut html and i dont have time or the ambition to learn06:19
Mobusoh crap... xmms just crashed06:19
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rekaMobus: change the ouput plugin to esound06:19
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Mobuscan't really, it crashed06:20
concept10glick, you could use nvu to make a WYSIWYG page and just save the htl output06:20
rekaMobus: killall xmms06:20
MobusWYSIWYG IS EVIL!06:20
glicki have to compile nvu myself :(06:20
rekaMobus: then change it in preferences06:20
Mobusin terminal?06:20
concept10glick, you shouldnt have to06:20
tzuqrisnah06:21
tzuqrisi am not fighting with it06:21
rekaMobus: the killall comand? yes06:21
tzuqrisi have looked at too many pages06:21
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funkyHatMobus, kill it, start it again, and _then_ change the output plugin ;)06:21
tzuqrisubuntu isn't cutting it for me06:21
funkyHattzuqris, we noticed06:21
glicki dont see a deb anywhere06:21
tzuqrisi will recommend ubuntu to my idiot friends06:21
redtechhow might a usb external HD enclosure come up?06:21
mgcrosstzuqris: you'd like this better than slack if you'd give it some time...new way of doing thinks...but, each to hisown...06:21
funkyHatglick, of nvu? get the .package06:22
daba1tzuqris: I recommend Ubuntu to all my idiot friends.06:22
mgcrosstzuqris: slack isn't evil, or bad06:22
desrti recomment ubuntu to everyone i know06:22
tritiumtzuqris, please we're trying to help you.  No need to troll.06:22
desrtidiot or otherwise06:22
glickfunkyHat, how do install that?06:22
orbordeWhen I download a new version of Firefox, should I kill the Firefox package in Synaptic and then install?06:22
mgcrossdesrt: me too!06:23
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funkyHatglick, make it executable, and then sudo it06:23
desrtdabar; wb.06:23
robotgeekorborde: no need to06:23
concept10glick, hmm, no one has contributed a .deb since the 1.0 release it seems06:23
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daba1orborde: you should update through synaptic. Then, also, you should change a line in about:config to upgrade to 1.0.406:23
glickdamnit06:24
funkyHatit will download a 'package' installer and install that too06:24
robotgeekdaba1: how do we i save the about:config change?06:24
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redtecha ha sda106:24
concept10glick, im going to try to install the auto package06:24
glickscrew it ill write up the damn html by hand tomorrow, i just wanna post some pics of my guitar for sale on my website06:24
dbernar1robotgeek: it is saved, I think.06:24
glickdont feel like installing stray packages06:24
orbordedabal: How do I update through Synaptic?06:25
concept10have you heard of autopackage?06:25
dbernar1nvu is pretty standard, not stray.06:25
robotgeekdbernar1: i have to do it all the time06:25
glickdbernar1, then whys it not in the repos?06:25
dbernar1orborde: called the three button dance by Burgundavia, I think.06:25
tzuqrisguys06:25
tzuqrisreally06:25
desrtsigh06:25
tzuqrisi admire ubuntu, it's quite nice...it's made a top distro on my list and i have something to tell friends to try06:25
desrttzuqris; thanks for trying out for my /ignore list.  you just qualified.06:25
funkyHatglick, it shows up in 'manage 3rd party software' and is easily removable06:25
glickfunkyHat, ok so i have the package file06:26
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tzuqriswhatever06:26
glickso just make it executable and do sudo sh nvu.package?06:26
mgcrosstzuqris is just frustrated..down boys06:26
mgcrossand grrrls06:26
tzuqrismgcross: dun worry about it06:26
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funkyHatglick, yep06:27
tritiumplease remember the Code of Conduct06:27
glicki cant wait till my horn comes06:27
desrttritium; there's a code?06:27
geneo91what is xwrapper.config06:27
tritiumdesrt, yes...06:27
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desrtgot a url?06:28
dbernar1http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct06:28
tritiumthanks, dbernar106:28
dbernar1why did I have to look thta up twice already?06:28
dbernar1Ubuntu is not alive here:)06:28
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Rotundcan someone help me get an airport card to work under ubuntu?06:28
dbernar1airport, thats it, not extreme?06:29
Rotundno06:29
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dbernar1so, airport extreme?06:29
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Rotund802.11B  The 128-bit version.  Not the 64-bit.  Yes it is still an original airport.  I'm sure there were two.06:29
nJessi need assistance06:29
redtechi attached an external hd with a usb enclosure and succesfully mounted it.  I see that its a linux drive is there anything on the drive I can look at to identify the distro?  I dont remember what I was doing with this drive  LOL06:30
glickwow thats hot :)06:30
dbernar1nJess: cute.06:30
dbernar1redtech: /etc06:30
HrdwrBoBredtech: check /etc06:31
nJesstwo things, one, how do i make an image of a CD?06:31
geneo91tritium what is wrapper.config06:31
funkyHatglick, autopackage? i was pretty impressed too06:31
HrdwrBoBfor any file called redhat or debian or whatever06:31
glickquite impressive actually06:31
nJesstwo, how do i set up my box to allow other machines to network boot off of it06:31
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linlin___How do i set it so a command is run any time any user logs in?06:31
tritiumgeneo91, hmm?06:31
glicklinux is grown up more and more every day06:31
Rotundthe airport is NOT autodetected.  Though modprobing airport does bring up an eth1.  yes it works under osx.06:32
redtechdebian_version06:32
redtechthanks!06:32
glicki know how to install shit from source, and compile my own software, but goddamnnit i shouldnt have to in this day and age!06:32
geneo91tritium:  its in the X11 folder06:32
HrdwrBoBRotund: if it works after that you can put airport in /etc/modules06:32
funkyHatheheheheh06:32
redtechnow..  what the hell was I doing...   roflrofl06:32
HrdwrBoBglick: exactly06:32
rommerhow do u change the computer naem?06:32
robotgeekglick: since you are not in a gentoo forum, it's okay to say that!06:32
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Rotundglick: GNU Source.  helps somewhat06:32
HrdwrBoBrommer: it's in /etc/hostname06:33
orbordeHow do I get Synaptic to operate through a proxy?06:33
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rommerok tyhanks06:33
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nJessQuestion: how do i run thin clients off of ubuntu?06:33
tritiumgeneo91, the best answer is "man Xwrapper.config"06:34
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derekgileshi all06:35
derekgilesne one here?06:35
desrthello.06:35
dbernar1orborde: do you need to? there is an option, I am sure in the menus...06:35
IIIEarsnJess - this covers it. - not one click simple but not very difficult. http://www.ltsp.org/06:35
funkyHathmm... it's 5:40am... i think i should go to bed06:36
redtechnow here is a question that I have been meaning to ask..  In windoze if you dont "stop" a usb device you can piss it off.  Do you need todo anything special in *nix ?06:36
nJessIIIEars, the cd thing or the thin client thing?06:36
desrtfunkyHat; non-sense.  it's only 12:3606:36
funkyHatheh06:36
IIIEarsfunkyHat - Are ya wimping out on us? - lol    g'nite :)06:36
derekgilesokay say I install this on my computer and like Im on a network and Im the only one on the network with this everyone else on windows can I still be networked to them or do i have to be on windows to be networked?06:36
orbordedbernarl: Since my Internet on this machine is through a proxy, yes. I set the HTTP proxy setting, but it's still not getting any new info.06:36
IIIEarsthin is in - lol06:36
funkyHati live in a real country ;), where we have the real time06:36
desrtah06:37
desrtOTT06:37
desrtOneTrueTime(tm)06:37
dbernar1redtech: umount...06:37
derekgilessomeone help me please06:37
redtechdbernar1, thats all?  I always feel like im missing something..06:37
orbordeDo I need to set up the FTP proxy as well?06:37
desrtderekgiles; you want samba06:38
dbernar1umount umounts it,. and then it is not mounted.06:38
desrtderekgiles; you can install it with the package manager06:38
derekgileswhats samba desrt?06:38
funkyHatnight all :)06:38
dbernar1orborde: not sure.06:38
dbernar1see ya06:38
desrtderekgiles; it's a program for letting linux computers function in groups of windows computers06:38
desrtderekgiles; file and print sharing stuff, basically06:38
orbordedbernarl: I guess I'll log off and activate that bit of the proxy,06:38
derekgilesand id just burn it to a cd06:38
fabbionehi desrt06:38
derekgileswould i beable to use internet also06:38
desrtfabbione; hey.  'sup?06:38
dbernar1hehe, I read the derekgiles message someone help me please, then I read his original message, and when I saw windows, I was like, ok, well, I dont know...06:38
fabbionedesrt: i got the fix for the scripts/ ready06:39
desrtderekgiles; oh.  you're not even on the internet with your ubuntu box?  that's another story then06:39
desrtfabbione; rocking :)06:39
orbordeOh, wait. Hang on.06:39
fabbionedesrt: it will be in the next upload..06:39
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orbordeThe only thing listed in the "Repositories" dialog is the CD.06:39
desrtfabbione; gorecki was down over the weekend due to some power work on campus.. i hope it didn't affect you06:39
orbordeWhat's the URI for the Ubuntu update  thingy?06:39
derekgilesis there away i can use the internet from the windows computer on ubuntu?06:39
desrtderekgiles; what sort of network card do you have?  ethernet?  wireless?06:39
fabbionedesrt: not at all... i had the fix ready 2/3 days ago06:40
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derekgilesethernet06:40
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fabbionedesrt: i used diff to check :)06:40
desrtderekgiles; did the ubuntu installer detect your card?06:40
orbordederekgiles: Yes, you can. I am, at least.06:40
desrtfabbione; :)06:40
derekgilessee im just downloading the file now06:40
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desrtderekgiles; ahh.  ubuntu isn't installed yet?06:40
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Mobusxmms freezes whenever I hit play.. Can anyone help me fik this problem?06:40
derekgilesnah06:40
desrtok06:40
poppycockwas up06:40
desrtwhen ubuntu comes up it should automatically detect your network06:41
derekgilesso it may auto-detect it and Id be fine than?06:41
KrisWoodhello, still trying to figure out how to recover lost files on ubuntu06:41
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desrtand if you have a DHCP server on your network (you probably do) then everything will basically be automatic06:41
poppycockmobus you a beoch06:41
KrisWoodI installed recover and gtkrecover but get a segmentation fault when attempting the recover06:41
desrtif not you'll need to know what IP address you want for it06:41
Mobusthanks. I'm flattered06:41
derekgilesight and i can have windows and ubuntu on the same computer both installed right I just choose at startup which i want to use?06:41
robotgeekpoppycock: cool it06:41
KrisWoodis anyone familiar with this program, or does anyone know of any others that do the same thing?06:41
dbernar1Mobus: I kno.06:41
desrtderekgiles; yes.  if you install ubuntu on a computer that already has windows on it, that's exactly what it will do06:42
dbernar1Mobus: open xmms with no file.06:42
Mobuswhat?06:42
poppycockmobus you suck munkee nutts06:42
robotgeek!ops06:42
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!06:42
dbernar1any ops to kick him?06:42
MobusI usually do06:42
IIIEarsKrisWood - How lost is "Lost" - fdisked/formatted over?06:42
Mobusthen I open fiels after I opened it06:42
desrtkick who?06:42
Mobusand when I hit play it freezes06:42
derekgilesight thatks for ur help desrt06:42
dbernar1then, right click on it, properties06:42
desrtderekgiles; i hope things work out well for you :)06:42
poppycockmobus you are sofa king we todd ed06:42
dbernar1and in the output plugin, select esd, works every time.06:42
dbernar1esound06:42
derekgilesi'll be back if they downt06:42
desrt:)06:42
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desrtwell.  i hope i never see you again, then :)06:43
robotgeekignore poppycock06:43
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derekgilesunless i break my computer than I'll be back in a few week06:43
dbernar1thanks.06:43
derekgilesIll come back actually all the time when im on the internet just to idle06:43
derekgiles;)06:43
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derekgilesill yell at you if i t dont work hows that sound desrt06:43
JDahlI tried to use nautilus to access another box via "connect to server" using SSH. How does that work? I get a fancy small icon, but06:43
bimberiorborde: You after a sample sources.list? - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3806:44
Mobusok I right clicked on it, but I don't see properties06:44
bimberioops - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3806:44
JDahl... small SSH icon, but I am never prompted for a passwork when I click it, and nothing happens06:44
KrisWoodIIIEars, my wife and I got in an argument earlier and she deleted a lot of my work via samba06:44
dbernar1options>prefs, sotty06:44
desrtderekgiles; k :)06:44
dbernar1sorry06:44
Mobusok I fized it06:45
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tritiumrobotgeek, sorry I was temporarily away.  Thanks, fabbione.06:45
KrisWood(that's the abbreviated version heh)06:45
dbernar1JDahl: well, works here06:45
dbernar1wanna go through it together?06:45
robotgeektritium: no probs06:45
dbernar1Mobus: excellent.06:45
Mobusok it works now, but I'm getting crappy quality06:45
dbernar1Mobus: not excellent.06:46
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firebird619I am trying to install f-spot and I first tried installing from Synaptic but the program doesn't run. I am now trying to install it through Terminal with configure, make, and make install but it says for Library requirements I need libgnome-2.0 >= 2.2 libgnomeui-2.0 >= 2. 2 libexif >= 0.5.7 libexif < 0.7.0 gtkhtml-sharp >= 1.0 gconf-sharp >= 1.0 glade -sharp >= 1.0 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4. The first 4 libraries listed are installed according06:46
JDahldbernar1, yeah.. that would be great, if you have time... regular SSH between the boxes works fine06:46
KrisWoodtrying to recover a few months of work that was deleted via samba is all.... dunno how deleted that makes it...06:46
dbernar1JDahl: open a nautilus window;)06:46
desrtfirebird619; f-spot is in apt... you should just be able to apt-get it06:46
dbernar1file>connect to server.06:47
dbernar1run a ssh server on that box, JDahl?06:47
desrtoh.  i see.06:47
desrtfirebird619; try running the synaptic f-spot from the terminal06:47
IIIEarsKriswood - If you are good with linux no problem. - google "forensics" i really like Helix (knoppix based) they all include usually the same base tools from penguin sleuth kit.06:47
Mobusman my problems are like a snowball rolling down a hill...06:47
JDahldbernar1, yeah... I can ssh to and from both boxes06:47
desrtfirebird619; see if it says anything like error messages06:47
Mobusfiz one, here's another 406:47
firebird619desrt: Isn't that sort of the same thing as getting it through Synaptic. Will apt-get also download all these dependencies that I need?06:47
orbordebimberi: I guess. Thanks,06:48
desrtfirebird619; ya.  it's exactly the same thing.  my mistake.... by the time i got to the end of what you wrote i had forgotten the beginning :)06:48
IIIEarshere is an ext2 fs driver tool for windows http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html06:48
orbordebimberi: Now if my Firefox weren't all screwed up, I could get to it.06:48
dbernar1JDahl: ok, lets do this first, then...06:48
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firebird619desrt: Sorry for the long message. When I tried getting it through Synaptic I didn't get any errors.06:48
desrtfirebird619; i'd say you're much more likely to get the old one working than succeed at trying to install it on your own06:48
bimberiorborde: I can paste contents to a /query if you like06:48
dbernar1so, file>connect to server, SSH in the dropdown, server: localhost, Port:22, folder: /home/username, user name: username, then hit the connect button06:49
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Mobusoh I c06:49
Mobusits not winamp that's crappy quality06:49
KrisWoodIIIEars, ok I'll look that up06:49
IIIEarsKrisWood, - F.I.R.E. looks pretty popular also06:49
Mobuseverything is crappy quality06:49
JDahldbernar1, why localhost? wouldnt it be the IP number of the remote host?06:49
firebird619desrt: How can I get the one install from Synaptic working. It needs those libraries and all I find them for is gentoo. Will alien convert them to .deb files?06:49
dbernar1I only have one comp right here, so that is why.06:49
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dbernar1try the other IP,06:50
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orbordebimberi: No, I got it. What is /query?06:50
dbernar1wanna join #nautilus?06:50
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desrtfirebird619; you said you installed it successfully from synaptic but it wouldn't run, right?06:50
gp_aaron|serverok I have a presetup full ubuntu install06:50
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desrtfirebird619; install it again with synaptic and let's try and get it running06:50
dkoh2does anyone know anything about upgrading firefox?06:50
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firebird619desrt: right.06:50
JDahldbernar1, this is what I did before... still doesnt work, it times out with the "Opening MySSH-CON"06:50
gp_aaron|serverhow can I i boot into textmode?06:50
IIIEars!firefox06:51
ubotuFirefox on warty is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"06:51
Mobushow do I disable a device in the device manager?06:51
IIIEarsOops not very helpful06:51
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desrtMobus; disable how?06:51
dbernar1JDahl: do with the localhost.06:51
mgcrosshey all...anyone know the code to enter for korean languge from the livecd? wanna impress a local tech...doesn't belive the whole livecd concept...thinks I'm kidding....06:51
MobusI know what the problem is06:51
KrisWoodIIIEars, I'll try that one thanks :)06:51
desrt(device-manager is read-only by the way)06:51
firebird619desrt: OK I will try reinstalling it. I am on dial-up Internet so it will take a few minutes.06:51
Mobusits the same one I had in windows06:51
desrtfirebird619; it's probably in your apt cache06:51
mgcrosswould dig it up, but I'm in a hurry06:51
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MobusI have an external USB sound card06:51
Mobusand a builkt uin one tyo the motherbooard06:52
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Mobuswhen they're both installed, they go fuzzy06:52
PurpleBluwhat is a good font to use06:52
PurpleBlu?06:52
dbernar1oh, wow, it worked a moment ago.06:52
gp_aaron|server?06:52
desrtMobus; so you want to prevent the usb one from loading?06:52
dkoh2thanks06:52
Mobusso I have to disable my built in souind card in order for my external one to work06:52
desrtah06:52
desrtwhat type of card?06:52
dbernar1BIOS, Mobus.06:52
PurpleBluWindows always used TImes New Roman not seein that, whats a good font?06:52
Mobusso I need to disable the sound controller in Device Manager06:52
MobusBIOS?06:53
derekgilessoory another question06:53
Mobusas in the setup?06:53
Mobusduring boot?06:53
dbernar1Mobus: I think so, as in while booting, press del06:53
derekgilesIf you already run another operating system, you must re-partition your hard disk in order to install a "standard" Linux distribution << do i need to do that for ubuntu also?06:53
Mobuseh ok06:53
desrtMobus; type lsmod | grep snd-06:53
desrtsorry06:53
desrtMobus; type lsmod | grep snd_06:53
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dbernar1derekgiles: do you have only one partition on the hard disk?06:53
desrtMobus; anything in there about ac97 or something?06:53
KrisWoodIIIEars, ok I'm having trouble finding download links for these, any ideas where to find them?06:54
firebird619desrt: It is done downloading and installing.06:54
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derekgilesIs that like another drive set aside like C and there could be another one D with a set amount of space06:54
derekgiles?06:54
mgcrossI'm digging now...anyone save me some time...and introduce Ubuntu to the geeks in Cheonan South Korea ;-)06:54
derekgilesnot like a harddrive just one harddrive acting as more than one06:54
desrtderekgiles; i think the ubuntu installer will let you shrink your drive C to make space for ubuntu06:54
JDahldbernar1, that works from the machine with sshd, but not from a new laptop without it... I thought I just needed the ssh client to make the connection, but maybe not (and right apt is busy doing a slowass postinstall upgrade)06:55
desrtit's called partitioning... and ya.. that's basically how it works06:55
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derekgilesight06:55
desrtof course you need to have enough free space06:55
dbernar1derekgiles: yes, partition of a hard drive06:55
JDahldbernar1, but thanks...06:55
desrtand it probably helps to defragment first06:55
dbernar1JDahl: sure:)06:55
tuxhagenpurpleblu: you can install times new roman if you want, take a look for msttcorefonts at synaptic - is it in your repositories?06:55
desrtfirebird619; so run fspot from a terminal06:55
desrtfirebird619; see if it says anything06:55
KrisWoodnm I found it06:55
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derekgilesbecause i have that arleady on my windows that im using now its named D with all my back up files you cant write to it its so If i get a virus I have that to start over for my back up06:56
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derekgilesso i was wanderign to make sure that that was like the same thing06:57
desrtderekgiles; generally speaking, having backups on the same computer as the original isn't good for protecting yourself from a virus06:57
dbernar1derekgiles: if you have a partition D that is not used for anything, and is big enough for you to use Ubuntu on, yes, install on that partition.06:58
desrtderekgiles; it's sort of like making a new drive letter... but not really the same06:58
dbernar1desrt: he is good to do anything.06:58
desrtlike, you won't see a new drive letter in windows06:58
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dbernar1I mean, having a separate data/windows partition is very good.06:58
desrtand you won't see any drive letters at all in ubuntu06:58
dbernar1viruses dont affect data, only programs.06:58
dbernar1and such06:59
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dbernar1just to let you know about the such06:59
gandiihi06:59
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dbernar1I also today installed dynDNS, so I have a domain now. w00t, it is very simple, and there is a daemon program that runs and updates your IP whenever it changes, very cool stuff.07:00
firebird619desrt: It says:07:00
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tritium:07:00
firebird619** (/usr/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe:17147): WARNING **: The following assembly refere nced from /usr/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe could not be loaded:07:00
firebird619     Assembly:   gnome-sharp    (assemblyref_index=7)07:00
firebird619     Version:    1.0.0.007:00
firebird619     Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f07:00
firebird619The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MO NO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/usr /lib/f-spot).07:00
tritium:)07:00
firebird619** (/usr/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe:17147): WARNING **: The class Gnome.Program could  not be loaded, used in /usr/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe (token 0x0100012e)07:00
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firebird619Unhandled Exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object07:00
desrtfirebird619; ok.  that's useful info07:00
desrtfirebird619; is libgnome-cil installed?07:00
hyphenatedfirebird619: it's quite rude to paste that much07:00
gandiiyea07:00
dbernar1firebird, please use http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl, or #flood for pasteing more than 3 lines of text07:00
firebird619hyphenated: sorry07:00
IIIEarsIf you still use windows. - setting up limited rights bon-admin accts to surf is a very good idea.07:01
dbernar1firebird619 even07:01
IIIEarserm "non-admin"07:01
dbernar1ya, hassle, windows, boring...:)07:01
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firebird619desrt: no, it is not installed. I am assuming I need to install it07:01
derekgilesight thanks again07:01
desrtfirebird619; ya.  give that a try07:02
derekgiles15 minutes left of download07:02
desrtfirebird619; the package should have installed it automatically.  don't know why it didn't.07:02
dbernar1I think I am ready to Eat Fresh (tm) at a local Subways...07:02
desrtfirebird619; you using backports by any chance?07:02
IIIEarsI agree - windows is not 'net safe. - games only until it is ported to linux. - grin07:02
derekgileslinux is like the safest operation system isnt it?07:02
dbernar1Subway - Eat Fresh, another oximoron...07:03
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wienerb0xdamn it, why does XMMS sound so much better than BMP :(07:03
firebird619desrt: I have a backport repository but it never seems to work. Should I delete it?07:03
desrtderekgiles; leaving your computer turned off is safest :)07:03
robotgeek!hemlock07:03
uboturobotgeek: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:03
desrtderekgiles; but linux is a lot more safe than windows, these days :)07:03
robotgeek!info hemlock07:03
IIIEarsderekgiles - there are a lot fewer exploits out for it. - draw your own conclusions.07:03
desrtfirebird619; well, if it doesn't work, then ya :)07:03
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desrtfirebird619; it's because backports switched to mandatory mirror use07:03
derekgilesmore people use windows because linux system are more complicated but easy once you get used to them07:03
desrtfirebird619; you have to use one of their mirror servers now if you want access07:03
derekgilesmy friend had red had 9 before07:04
derekgilesand i was like whoa07:04
dkoh2how do you uninstall a compiled program... like when you make it07:04
derekgilesi  understood it but yea07:04
desrtdkoh2; make uninstall07:04
dkoh2oh haha thanks07:04
desrtdkoh2; in the directory that you typed "make install" in07:04
desrtor "sudo make uninstall" i suppose07:04
IIIEarsderekgiles - no OS is really safe. - no execute bit in next gen of chips should slow  hackersdown some07:04
desrt'next gen'07:05
desrtpfft07:05
dkoh2what about emptying the recycling bin?07:05
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vdrabhello #Ubuntu ! I have this weird problem with gnome / X, it just randomly closes windows on me all the time.... no crashing, no reboots, just disappearing windows.... anyone have a clue on what may be going on? much appreciated.07:05
firebird619desrt: Yes, it makes sense to delete it beings it doesn't work but I thought it maybe would start working again. Those files are downloading. I will let you know when they are done installing and I will see if it works.07:05
desrtfirebird619; i sure hope it does :P07:05
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dbernar1vdrab: weird...try creating a new user, to see if it happens to him too.07:06
dbernar1lol@nilson07:06
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JDahldbernar1, have you made a nautilus ssh connection to a remote server? It only seems to work with localhost for me07:06
vdrabcould it be a graphics card problem? i think not, but....07:06
dbernar1JDahl: doesnt work at all, for some reason...07:06
IIIEars<< - makes online purchases with a bootable CD or better over the phone. (Is that paranoia or what? - rofl)07:07
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nickrudvdrab, can you expand on that; for example, do you have to restart the programs?07:08
desrtuh07:08
JDahldbernar1, I dont really need it - just thought it'd be a nice alternative to scp07:08
derekgiles10 minutes left of the download07:08
dkoh2is it possible to use a windows xp shared hp printer with ubuntu?07:08
derekgilesdkoh2 yes07:08
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derekgilesI already asked LOL07:08
derekgiles:-D07:08
dbernar1JDahl: ya, it would.07:08
vdrabnickrud: yeah, firefox, synaptic, anything.... they just close, so i have to reopen07:08
derekgilesdesrt answered me07:08
desrtIIIEars; credit card security over the net is probably somewhat better than giving your card to a human over the phone07:08
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dkoh2derekgiles: how do I do that?07:08
Internatderekgiles is it easy to set up? cause i just realised i have to do that as well07:08
Internatactually mines a network printer..07:09
desrtdkoh2; samba07:09
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nJesshttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/688 <--i had to do that, it was rather amusing07:09
derekgilesyou want samba07:09
derekgilesyou can install it with the package manager07:09
dkoh2okay07:09
nickrudvdrab, weird. when you say reopen, does that mean starting the programs from the menu?07:09
desrtderekgiles; :)07:09
vdrabnickrud: yes, that's right.07:09
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derekgilesand samba desert  it's a program for letting linux computers function in groups of windows computers file and print sharing stuff, basically07:10
dbernar1laters.07:10
dbernar1laters...07:10
desrtwoh07:10
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desrtderekgiles; extreme delayed-action echo effect :)07:10
dkoh2awesome so apt-get samba desert07:10
desrtno07:10
desrtdesrt is me :)07:10
desrti'm not installable with apt07:10
bimberilol07:10
dkoh2oh07:10
nickrudvdrab, that is extremely weird to me :)07:10
dkoh2sorry07:10
desrtsudo apt-get install samba07:10
derekgileshah desrt I did pretty good at copying your words huh07:11
desrtderekgiles; :)07:11
PurpleBluIf I want to install some themes for my KDE desktop can I do that through Synaptic Packet Manager?  I think I need SuperKaramba them some themes.  IS this correct, can I do that?07:11
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orbordeHow do I check/change my screen resolution?07:11
PurpleBluwant some nice eye candy, you know what I mean.07:11
bimberinJess: it was indeed! :)07:11
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vdrabnickrud: see, it just friggin' closed Xchat on me....07:12
TokenBadif someone has a ftp up and its SSL..how do you ftp into it..or what is command to ftp into it since uses ssl?07:12
bimberiorborde: system -> preferences -> screen resolution07:12
derekgilesdoes ne one here like rap music?07:12
derekgilesbesides me07:12
TokenBadnot me07:12
bimberinope07:12
desrtderekgiles; ubuntu will crash if you try and play any rap music on it07:12
desrtderekgiles; just advanced warning there07:12
IIIEarsSinatra and Clooney. - lol07:12
arudesrt: nice :)07:13
rommerdesrt; i've tried it doesn't, only crashes to classical and country07:13
Ghetekhow do i make a user called "www" and give it access to my apache-served webpage?07:13
firebird619desrt: That solved   the problem. Thanks for the help.07:13
desrtdude07:13
desrtcountry!!!07:13
nickrudvdrab, this is something you may want to take up on a mailling list: user, or devel. I think I can reasonably promise you that you'll get more help there07:13
desrtfirebird619; awesome :)07:13
helpmeplshey07:13
arudesrt: hank3 ;)07:13
helpmeplswhere is the girl07:13
TokenBadanyone?07:13
vdrabsweet. any concrete pointers? can i find it from the ubuntu forums?07:14
derekgilesdamn ima go for awhile its done downloading time to burn it heh07:14
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nickrudvdrab, yes, those lists can ge gotten to from the forums; I 'd suggest using pan and pointing it at gmane.org07:15
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Ghetekhow do i make a user from command line?07:19
bimberi_Ghetek: sudo adduser07:20
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helpmeplsguys07:20
helpmeplshow to add user with expired07:20
helpmeplsexample user joe with exppired desember07:20
helpmepls1 desember07:20
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dkoh2so I got samba installed, what do I do next to print to an xp computer?07:22
TokenBadif someone has a ftp up and its SSL..how do you ftp into it..or what is command to ftp into it since uses ssl?07:22
PurpleBluokay, I downlaoded a source file.  I did the ./configure command from console, what is my next step?07:22
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CarlFKis there a pastebot I can apt-get install?07:23
rommerdo u need an even number of computers to make a cluster?07:23
CarlFKno.07:23
dgimusiquei need help... lots of it... WHAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH UBUNTU???? i tried installing RPM's Debians, i tried too many thing I AM LOST!!! i'm also pretty new to linux.... i'm trying to follow the information on websites and such to install my programs... NOTHING WORKS!!! i'm freaking out!!!07:23
rekaPurpleBlu: what are you trying to install?07:23
PurpleBluSupeKaramba07:23
PurpleBlui think I need to make it or something07:23
helpmeplsguy's help me07:23
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CarlFKfirst un-install samba - you don't need it07:24
nickruddgimusique, there's a simple rule for using ubuntu: only use packages from ubuntu repositories07:24
rekaPurpleBlu: er, it's in the repo it seems07:24
PurpleBluohh really, where I go?07:24
aruPurpleBlu: System > Administration > Synaptic  then search for superkaramba07:24
dgimusiquenickrud : where's that?07:24
rekaPurpleBlu: sudo apt-get install superkaramba07:24
bimberi_dkoh2: system -> administration -> printing; New Printer; Network Printer; Windows (SMB)07:24
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wynseb001hello07:24
rekaPurpleBlu: always check the repo first....compiling from source is the "harder" way of doing things07:24
aruor use the console, either way07:24
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nickruddgimusique, the 25 word or less version, is use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 as the text in /etc/apt/source.list07:25
aruI like my linux gooey07:25
nickrudgak07:26
nickruddgimusique, the 25 word or less version, is use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 as the text in /etc/apt/sources.list07:26
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dgimusiquethanks07:26
bruce_join #lisp07:26
helpmeplsdoh07:26
CarlFKthere is a #lisp?07:26
rekanickrud: hehe..that's not like you. :)07:26
nickruddoh, doh, cut and paste please :)07:26
CarlFKwow... what about #forth...07:26
helpmepls#lisp is homo chan07:27
helpmepls:)07:27
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CarlFKwow!  25 users in #forth07:27
rekahelpmepls: easy now...07:27
helpmeplsnot yet reka07:27
helpmeplsi'll do tomorrow morning07:28
JDahlCarlFK, is that the hyped future Fortran killer by Sun et al.?07:28
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helpmeplsreka do you know how to adduser with expired i mean exam user joe with expired 30 des07:28
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helpmeplsfrom now07:28
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rekahelpmepls: no07:29
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helpmeplsdoh07:29
helpmeplsi wanna rent my shell07:29
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TokenBadanyone know how to ftp into a ftp that requires SSL for auth?07:30
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ubuntudriftfast1anyone here?07:30
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ubuntudriftfast1im a newb to ubuntu, bare with me07:31
ubuntudriftfast1first linux distro07:31
bimberi_TokenBad: sftp didn't work? (my modem dropped out just after i typed it)07:31
dgimusiquenickrud : i don'T get it... there is no softwares in what you just showed me07:31
TokenBadlet me check07:31
looserdgimusique apt-cache search07:31
dgimusiqueapt-cache search?07:32
TokenBadand i just type that in the console right?07:32
ubuntudriftfast1can anyone tell me of a good primer to get my feet wet for linux07:32
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ubuntudriftfast1or should i learn a language first07:32
KosaiHello.  I'm running a hoary install on powerpc, and I mistyped the first screeen of "set new root password".  Now, every time I go back into that menu, it prompts me to retype the password (which I don't know, because it was mistyped) correctly, and won't let me give an initial password again.07:32
KosaiDoes anyone have any suggestions?07:32
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thechitowncubsjn nphy07:32
Ghetekoy, i got a webserver question. just decided to come here b/c not getting too much of an answer at apache (but i am on ubuntu). i get a 403 error when trying to access my web page. i know it has something to do with permissions. i dont have x or a window manager.07:32
rekaubuntudriftfast1: tlpd.org07:32
thechitowncubsGhetek: why do you need a window manager?07:33
rekatldp.org rather07:33
ubuntudriftfast1thanks07:33
looser!rescue07:33
ubotu[rescue]  Boot the install cd with rescue as boot parameter for system rescue mode07:33
ubuntudriftfast1what do i do for your name to be highlighted?07:33
looserGhetek go there07:33
otepubuntudriftfast1: or buy "running linux"07:33
reka!tell dgimusique about repositories07:33
ubuntudriftfast1is that a book?07:33
otepyup07:33
Ghetekthechitowncubs: go where?07:33
tzuqrisalright guys07:33
otepfrom o'reilly and associates07:33
dgimusiquethx reka07:34
Gheteklooser: go where?07:34
thechitowncubsGhetek: where did you put the index.html file?07:34
rekaubuntudriftfast1: if you type someone's name in your post, it will be highlighted for them07:34
looser!rescue07:34
ubotuI guess rescue is Boot the install cd with rescue as boot parameter for system rescue mode07:34
tzuqrisi've come back07:34
ubuntudriftfast1reka that do it?07:34
bimberi_ubuntudriftfast1: another place: http://tuxfiles.org/07:34
Ghetekthechitowncubs: its in /var/www/07:34
rekaubuntudriftfast1: yep :)07:34
KosaiThe rescue quote was for me?07:34
ubuntudriftfast1cool, thanks07:34
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thechitowncubsis that where you told apache to look?07:34
tzuqrisi want to get these sound issues solved07:34
tzuqrishttp://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly07:34
thechitowncubsGhetek: man chmod if you need to learn about permissions07:34
Ghetekthechitowncubs: yeah07:35
ubuntudriftfast1i had microsoft, so is there anything like cmd prompt on ubuntu, or do I just write the code as needed?07:35
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Ghetekthechitowncubs: its a user/permissions problem07:35
thechitowncubsman chown07:35
thechitowncubsman chmod07:35
tzuqristhat is a link that i tried07:35
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rekaubuntudriftfast1: apps > sys tools > terminal07:35
otepubuntudriftfast1: the terminal07:35
looserguy's brb i wanna to piss07:35
rekaubuntudriftfast1: read this while you're at it07:35
Ghetekthechitowncubs: yeah i looked at those and sis what apache said i made a user called www and i used chown and gave www access to the folder07:36
reka!tell ubuntudriftfast1 about rootsudo07:36
Ghetekbut the outside world cant see it07:36
tzuqrisand i tried this for my sound http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2656707:36
tzuqrisanybody got anything for me?07:36
ubuntudriftfast1reka,otep the terminal. Thanks. it should make it alittle easier now07:36
TokenBadis there an apt-get for bsdftpd?07:36
GhetekTokenBad: apt-cache search07:36
TokenBadI did that07:36
TokenBadreturned no responce at all07:36
ubuntudriftfast1reka thanks I got to go study07:36
otepubuntudriftfast1: go to http://tuxfiles.org/ as suggested by bimberi, click "command line" on the left07:37
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rekatzuqris: there aren't many sound gurus in here....but crimsun is who you want to get a hold of. keep dropping by until he's active07:37
GhetekTokenBad: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search bsdftpd07:37
tzuqrisreka: got maybe a time frame of when that usually is?07:37
rekaKosai: not really.  are you sure it's the root password you mistyped?  b/c by default you enter *your* password to do priveliged actions07:38
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rekatzuqris: try every two hrs if you can07:38
PurpleBlureka - searched for superkaramba in Synaptic Packet Manger, nothing.07:38
ubuntudriftfast1thanks everyone07:38
Mechcozmoalright... i'm installing ubuntu07:38
rekatzuqris: i'm not in the US so it's tough for me to pinpoint his times07:38
Mechcozmoand its complaining about something07:38
tzuqrisproblem is...i have a pretty short time frame07:38
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Kosaireka: It's the installer.  No-one *has* a password yet.07:39
rekaPurpleBlu: it's in universe07:39
Mechcozmoi'm trying to install it onto partition #607:39
Mechcozmowhich is a real partition07:39
TokenBadI still don't find it07:39
reka!tell PurpleBlu about repositories07:39
tzuqrisi will try a couple more things with this then07:39
Fideliocan anybody please explain to me how to specify the dhcp server in ubuntu?07:39
Mechcozmo(only four of them, #1,5,6,7)07:39
dgimusiquehere is what happens when i try to open the synaptic : Child terminated with 1 status... it won't open07:39
Mechcozmoi can't even get that far07:39
Fidelioie : how to connect to a specific DHCP server07:39
rekaKosai: the installer?  you're supposed to *set* your password there, it's not supposed to stop you if you get it wrong.07:40
rekadgimusique: you sure you don't have a session open already?07:40
Mechcozmothe installer won't go that far!07:40
Mechcozmoi'm trying to partition07:41
Mechcozmoand its being a rather large PITA07:41
PurpleBluuniverse?  talking about the section in Synaptic Packet Manger?  cause there is no section called that.  And yes please tell me about REPOS, cause I aint see it in Synaptic, and I even searched too.07:41
Mechcozmono root filesystem or something07:41
otep!tell otep about repositories07:41
dgimusiquereka where should that be?07:41
otepwow07:41
tzuqrisooh07:41
rekaPurpleBlu: settings > repos07:41
Kosaireka: You set it by typing it twice.  I typed it once, making a mistake, and then it asked me to repeat.  I can't repeat it, since I don't know what I typed.  It keeps asking me to repeat it, without giving me an option of not repeating it and setting it again.07:41
rekaPurpleBlu: read the wiki page i sent you07:41
PurpleBlureka, reading now07:42
otepubotu is a demigod...07:42
ubotuotep: Are you smoking crack?07:42
rekadgimusique: you probably have an open synaptic window already07:42
oteplol07:42
Fidelioanybody?07:42
Mechcozmoanyone going to bother helping me?07:42
dgimusiquereka all i have opened is this X-chat and AIM talking to my girlfriend07:42
rekaKosai: oh, i see.....imho, easier to just reboot and start again. :-/07:42
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Mechcozmowhat the hell is the root file system, how do i define it, and how do i correct it?07:42
tzuqrislol07:43
TokenBadif console based ftp07:43
TokenBadhow get it to download a full dir?07:43
rekaKosai: afaik, it's going to be *really* tough to be able to get the password at that stage.07:43
TokenBadI tried get dirname07:43
TokenBadand it says its not a file07:43
dgimusiqueWhoever plays as root... ends up fucking a tree07:43
SeveasTokenBad, try mc (midnight commander) for console based ftp :)07:44
MrGardenHoseMangues how do i set up a connection over pppoe07:44
MrGardenHoseMan-gues07:44
TokenBadI am haaving to use ftp-sll07:44
SeveasMrGardenHoseMan, pppoeconf07:44
TokenBadshoot07:44
TokenBadftp-ssl07:44
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TokenBadeven07:44
MrGardenHoseManit's starting to drive me mad07:44
MrGardenHoseManTHANK YOU!07:44
MrGardenHoseManlets take a stab at it07:44
Fideliodoes anybody in here have experience with DHCP in Hoary?07:45
SeveasFidelio, yes07:45
Seveasboth server and client07:45
TokenBadSeveas, in a ssl based ftp..how get a full dir..get don't work07:46
TokenBadand the mc you gave didn't work07:46
FidelioSeveas : I am trying to connect to a Broadband Router which acts as my DHCP server from Hoary07:46
Fideliobut I'm not getting lucky07:46
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supernixhiya gang07:47
supernixI am using Kubuntu and I was wonder what the best way would be to add the fonts from my windows system to Linux07:47
Gheteksigh07:47
SeveasFidelio, what does killall dhclient3 && dhclient3 eth0 (or whichever your card is) say?07:47
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dgimusiqueok i'm trying to open the Synaptic manager thing... and IT IS NOT already running, i even tried restarting... it'S telling me the same thing it did a while ago :(07:47
bimberiTokenBad: mget transfers multiple files (but not directories)07:47
otep!tell otep fonts07:47
SeveasTokenBad, ah, mc cannot handle sftp, sorry07:47
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TokenBadthen how get full dirs?07:48
PurpleBlureka, when adding universe repositories, doI  just want to add binaries or source to?07:48
Discipulusalright, what's the difference between a hard link and a symlink?07:48
FidelioSeveas, both router and ethernet are on wireless...so mine is on wlan007:48
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rekaPurpleBlu: both07:48
rekadgimusique: ok, full error again please?07:49
SeveasFidelio, ahhhh, wireless07:49
SeveasFidelio, with encryption?07:49
FidelioSeveas, nope...but I have a card that according to ubuntu is well supported in Hoary07:50
PurpleBluohh yes, superkaramba here I come07:50
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PurpleBluI am loving this07:50
PurpleBlueasy07:50
PurpleBluwow07:50
dgimusiquewell i have it installed in french... Echec lors du lancement de /usr/sbin/synaptic : Child terminated with 1 status07:50
Thewarmachineim nervous about tomorrow07:50
SeveasFidelio, what does iwconfig wlan0 say (output on pastebin please)07:50
Seveasdgimusique, try sudo synaptic in a terminal07:50
FidelioSeveas, you'll have to give me a sec for that07:51
Seveasyou might be able to see a better error description then07:51
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SeveasFidelio, ok07:51
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mebaran151how do I manually mount a usb pendrive from cli07:51
Thewarmachinehow would I go about making my webcam work07:51
Thewarmachine?07:51
Seveasmebaran151, pmount /dev/sda07:51
rekadgimusique: ok, and you entered *your* password?07:51
dgimusiqueyes07:51
Seveasreplace sda by the correct drive07:51
mebaran151Seveas, what is the correct drive07:51
mebaran151taht is my question07:51
dgimusiquedgimusique is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported07:51
Seveasmebaran151, ghe :)07:51
mebaran151how are usb devices classifed07:51
PurpleBlureka, now when I download theme for superkaramba I dont do it through Synaptic do i?07:51
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mebaran151are tehy scsi's?07:52
Seveasmebaran151, as /dev/sd*something*07:52
Seveasbut usually they are automounted07:52
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Seveasif not: consult dmesg to see the scsi position of the drive07:52
Thewarmachineanyone have ideas????????????????????????????????07:52
rekaPurpleBlu: not sure....check if there are themes in the repos....if not, then yes, need to do it some other way07:52
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rekadgimusique: ah, there you go07:53
arumebaran151: System > Administration > Device Manager | and see if it's listed07:53
reka!tell dgimusique about rootsudo07:53
rekadgimusique: i think you need to add yourself to the sudoers file07:53
rekadgimusique: read the wiki page i sent you07:53
Thewarmachinedoes anyone know?07:54
PurpleBluyep, didnt find liquid weather07:54
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aruThewarmachine: what kind of camera?07:54
mebaran151aru, eh I dont have a gui07:54
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mebaran151I have a server only install07:54
mebaran151and I neecdd to do it the old fashioned way from the cli07:54
Thewarmachinelogitech quickcam express07:55
arumebaran151: sorry for your luck :)07:55
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aruThewarmachine: USB?07:55
Thewarmachine yes07:55
PurpleBlureka, what desktop you use? Gnome, Kde? what?07:55
rekaPurpleBlu: gnome07:55
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PurpleBluno KDE?07:55
mebaran151aru, so what do they normally classify usb drives as07:55
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rekaPurpleBlu: which is why i have't had experience with superkaramba07:55
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mebaran151ada had or /dev/usb/something07:55
rekaPurpleBlu: i prefer gnome07:55
Seveasjay for flaky freenode :(07:56
SeveasThewarmachine, you need quickcam modules for the kernel07:56
SeveasThewarmachine, it's a PITA, never got it to work myself07:56
PurpleBluohh really, even for eye candy?07:56
mebaran151sda hda or /dev/usb/x07:56
rekaPurpleBlu: there's #kubuntu and #kde if you didn't know07:56
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Thewarmachinedamn07:56
rekaPurpleBlu: i like a minimalist desktop07:56
Fideliohow do I get to pastebin?07:56
Thewarmachineany idea how  would go about it?07:56
Seveasreka, fluxbox? :)07:56
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Thewarmachinexfce4?07:56
SeveasFidelio, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:56
dgimusiquereka i can't even add a new user it gives me the same error... looks like i have an account problem in here :S07:56
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rekaSeveas: i'm too used to gnome's shortcuts/quirks :)07:56
Seveasdgimusique, shat does sudo synaptic say?07:57
Seveas(ina terminal)07:57
dgimusiquedgimusique is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported07:57
rekadgimusique: well, i'm pretty certain that's what you need to do....do it with a user who already has sudo privileges.07:57
Thewarmachineseveas any idea where I could acquire that07:57
Thewarmachine>07:57
dgimusiquei only have ONE user account in my ubuntu installation...07:57
dgimusiqueand it's this one07:58
dgimusiquelol07:58
rekaoh. :)07:58
dgimusiquei set a root password...07:58
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GlendosCan someone recommend a "WORKING" free dvd/cd recording program for gnome?? Nautilus has problems burning my data DVDs, Graveman sort of works except it gives growisofs errors, Gnomebaker 3.3 works fine except I can't Name my cds, Gnomebaker 0.4 Segfaults when I start burning.. and K3b needs crap load of QT libraries, and finally Nero Linux demo works but its not free and not opensource..07:58
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arumebaran151: mine says /dev/sda07:58
dgimusiquebut i have no clue how logon to it...07:58
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ubuntudriftfast1tuxflies.org doesnt work07:58
SeveasThewarmachine, from synaptic :)07:58
rekadgimusique: doesn't the wik tell you?07:59
Thewarmachinewhat packages?07:59
Thewarmachineand sorry for the pesterance07:59
reka*wiki07:59
mebaran151aru, it is a scsi device07:59
mebaran151nicety07:59
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aruGlendos: I use graveman with no problems, what is it you burn that gives you errors?07:59
ubuntudriftfast1reka the link tuxflies doesnt work, i even typed url in firefox. is that right?07:59
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arumebaran151: thats what it says, but its USB08:00
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Glendosaru, simple data DVD .. :(08:00
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SeveasThewarmachine, in private (too big to paste in here)08:00
rekaubuntudriftfast1: google08:00
aruGlendos: weird08:00
mebaran151aru, weird devices often work that way08:00
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Glendosonce it finishes it says some crap about growisofs08:00
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TokenBadso anyone know how to get ftp-ssl to get full dir?08:00
Glendosbut it seems to burn correctly though... the files seem to be there and load08:00
mebaran151because Linux has a pretty robust scsi interface08:00
ubuntudriftfast1gotcha, does a live cd, have all the same things as the standard ver.08:00
GlendosI was just hoping that all this grand opern source projects actually had one decent working burning program08:01
romhas anyone here tried to make a linux cluster using ubuntu?08:01
rekaGlendos: 2 things that might  be relevant [1]  enabled DMA? [2]  tried a slower write speed?08:01
ubuntudriftfast1reka does live cd the exact same as real ver.?08:01
robotgeekubuntudriftfast1: yup08:01
Glendosreka, good point, I have DMA enabled , umask on, 32-bit IO08:02
ubuntudriftfast1alright, it just seemed like the about in terminal didnt do what someone said08:02
Glendosreka, I'm trying to burn 8x dvds at 4x to be safe08:02
IIIEarsGlendos - Then you have tried k3b and gnomebaker? - pretty sure there are others nero is linux also08:02
Glendosand still the same problem08:02
dgimusiquereka yup and everytime i try any of the commands in there i get the same thing : dgimusique is not in the sudoers file.08:02
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ubuntudriftfast1reka thanks again08:02
GlendosIIIEars, refer to my long paragraph above :)08:02
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IIIEarsGlendos if you have Nero - sign in to their site and pick up the linux vers.08:03
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Razor-Xhey08:03
rekadgimusique: weird....if you're the only user, you should be able to sudo08:03
anacronwhat's the suggested way to make linux run internet radio?08:03
Razor-Xanacron: there's no real ``suggested'' way08:03
Haroldanacron:  Why not go with podcasting?08:03
Razor-XI prefer VLC meself, because I generally listen to Shoutcast streams08:03
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dgimusiquereka i even tried logging out and loggin back in08:03
Razor-XHarold: because we all don't have iPods? ;)08:04
GlendosIIIEars, I was hopiong to rely on the free opensource things available before downloading a GTK 1.x app that's closed source08:04
rekaIIIEars: <Glendos> "...and finally Nero Linux demo works but its not free and not opensource.."08:04
HaroldRazor-X: Who needs an iPod?  I listen to podcasts on an iRiver.08:04
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HaroldRazor-X: Or simply on my PC/Mac.08:04
redtechi dont suppose there is any way to run a .net app in ubuntu?08:04
IIIEarsI agree open source does what i need it to do.08:05
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HaroldRazor-X: "Podcast" is just a term.08:05
GlendosI was going through the source code for Gnomebaker and Graveman...08:05
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GlendosGnomebaker has 10 times cleaner code08:05
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Glendos0.4 would be awesome if I could find the bug that causes the segfault08:05
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aruif you a competent enough to go through the code, then you shouldn't get errors :)08:05
Razor-Xs/iPod/somewhat expensive MP3 Player/08:05
rekadgimusique: ok, to double check, you did the 'adding users' step on the wiki page?08:06
aruI have never seen any linux code and I don't get any errors :)08:06
IIIEarsaru - lol - you are bad.08:06
bimberianacron: the method that comes with the basic install is Rhythmbox (Applications -> sound & Video -> Music Player )08:06
aruwell it's true!08:06
Harold Razor-X Again, you don't need an iPod to listen to podcasts.08:06
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hacked`guys08:06
Glendosaru, I was going to debug it.. but it's not easy...08:06
dgimusiquereka, it tells me i'm not in the sudoers file even when i try that08:06
robotgeekRazor-X: i started seeing vi replacement strings08:06
Glendosit's worse with Graveman because the code is written by french dudes08:06
Glendosand all the variable names are french etc08:06
Glendoswith the comments08:06
aruGlendos: why not make a perfect cd burner with a nice gnome interface?08:06
hacked`how many gigs do i need for a basic install of ubuntu (dont need wordprocessing, etc, just some basic compilers, etc)08:06
anacronbimberi: so i can make my own radio with that?08:06
HaroldRazor-X: bashpodder is a tool that provides command line downloads of podcasts.08:07
hacked`5 gb enough ?08:07
aruhacked`: maybe 1 or 2 :)08:07
Fidelioseveas, I can't paste the code since ubuntu is on my other system...08:07
rekadgimusique: logout, then iirc, you can log in as root using the username 'root' or 'rootuser' and the root password you set08:07
hacked`k, 4 it is08:07
hacked`thx08:07
rekadgimusique: then try adding yourself08:07
Glendosaru, I am thinking of joining the gnomebaker project and help fix it up... I think enough people tried to start from scratch and left a half baked job08:07
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IIIEarsheh08:07
rekaGlendos: hehe...pun08:07
desrtGlendos; work on serpentine instead08:07
Fideliobut the output gives me almost all the details of the wlan0 card08:07
bimberianacron: not sure but I'd say it's "tune in" only08:07
dgimusiqueok thanks reka i'll try that08:07
arugnomebaker... baked... nice pun08:07
Glendosdesrt, but baker does audio burning too08:08
Fidelioexcept for an IP Address08:08
robotgeek:q08:08
desrtGlendos; serpentine does audio08:08
bimberianacron: ... but not broadcast08:08
Glendosreka, :)08:08
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desrtGlendos; also worth improving, probably is nautilus's cd burning support08:08
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aruIIIEars: I wasn't trying to be rude, I've just never seen any code :)08:09
anacronbimberi: eh, i was asking about broadcasting, sure you can listen streams almost with every player, and i think xmms is good for that08:09
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rekaGlendos: i assume you've googled the heck out of 'gnomebaker segfault'?08:09
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bimberianacron: yes, realise that now, my apologies08:09
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Glendosreka, I have been trying to get a hold of the developers :(08:10
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Fidelioseveas, you still there?08:10
Glendosreka, 0.4 came out 2-3 days ago... so not much bug reports on it yet08:10
rekaFidelio: said he'd be back in an hour08:10
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Fideliocool08:10
NetEchoHi I have some questions about the livecd08:11
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rekaGlendos: so you got the one that isn't in the repo?08:11
NetEchowhat desktop interface does it use?08:11
Razor-XHarold_Stdyng_C: how is podcasting?08:11
NetEchothe AMD64 version08:11
Fidelioanybody else in here have any experience with DHCP client in Hoary?08:11
rekaNetEcho: gnome08:11
Razor-X(you influenced me to start learning Ruby ;)08:11
NetEchoreka what terminals are available?08:11
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Razor-Xoh yeah, and I know you aren't here robotgeek but...08:11
Glendosreka, yes, I compiled the new release from source... the one in the repository is missing a VERY VERY important feature. It won't allow you to name the cds you burn08:11
Razor-Xdoes it fscking look like a vi replace string?08:11
rekaNetEcho: gnome-terminal, definitely...i think xterm's there as well08:11
Razor-Xno it's fscking not, fscking fsck!08:11
NetEchogood good08:11
Razor-Xit's a fscking sed fscking replace string08:12
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Razor-Xand that's the fscking closest i'm getting to using `vi'08:12
rekaGlendos: :)08:12
Razor-Xok, enough ranting08:12
NetEchoI'm doing a gentoo install from it and since Knoppix only comes in x86 I cant install the AMD64 gentoo08:12
Razor-XWindows made me do that08:12
MrGardenHoseMananyone know the command to config the monitor08:12
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Razor-XI had to troubleshoot Windows, and I came back disgruntled08:12
MrGardenHoseManmore like refresh rate really08:12
rekaGlendos: does the repo version segfault too?08:12
Fidelioanybody?08:12
NetEchoand I only have Knoppix instructions but I guess it would be the same08:12
Glendosreka, I was shocked :) .. no the rep one doesn't segfault08:12
NetEchoI hope xterm is there :D08:12
NetEchowhat about xchat and gaim?08:12
Razor-XNetEcho: xterm is defaulted -- I think08:13
NetEchogood good08:13
Razor-XgAIM is in Ubuntu, Kopete in the other08:13
Razor-XXChat is defaulted08:13
reka!tell MrGardenHoseMan about fixres08:13
Razor-XI prefer Eterm meself, but "To Each His Own"08:13
NetEchoin Ubuntu AMD64 livecd?08:13
Dr_Willis"twin" is an interesting terminal program as well.08:13
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MrGardenHoseManwhat do you mean fixres08:13
GlendosI'm trying to do a Trace see where it segfaults.... what's funny though is that when you turn on trace it doesn't segfault08:13
NetEchoI prefer command line for some stuff but xterm is pretty good08:13
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Glendosbut it made a coaster dvd... invalid FS or something08:13
NetEchoits been a while since I've been in a *nix environment08:14
rekaMrGardenHoseMan: ubotu sent you a pm08:14
Razor-XDr_Willis: twin is awesome08:14
MrGardenHoseManjust got it :D08:14
MrGardenHoseManthx thx08:14
Razor-Xmy personally compiled Eterm has native twin support (Etwin)08:14
_frank!tell _frank about fixres08:14
Dr_WillisRazor-X,  been twiddling with it on and off for years.. but oddly - its messed up  on this box's console. :(08:14
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Razor-Xniiiiiice Eterm08:15
Razor-Xyou can see a picture of my desktop/Eterm/emacs if you people wish08:15
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Razor-Xthey're interchangeable, in my book08:15
rekaGlendos: imho, i'd just use the repo version, and use a pen/texta to label the CD. :)  sounds like the latest one isn't up to scratch.08:15
IIIEarsRazor-X - stroking your eterm online is likely illegal in six states. - j/k08:16
NetEchoRazor-X I'll be sure to check Eterm out08:16
dgimusiquereka, i tried everything you told me... there is no way i can login into root... it tells me i'm not allowed to login as admin at the login screen08:16
Razor-XNetEcho: do it ;)08:16
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Razor-XIIIEars: hahaha08:16
IIIEarsheh08:16
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Glendosreka, yes but means I have made a compromise for a trivial feature !! I must find a solution instead of lowering my standards!08:16
rekaok people, how do you login as root?08:16
reka(for dgimusique )08:17
arureka: dont! :)08:17
Agrajagreka: sudo08:17
Agrajag!sudo08:17
Razor-Xit does what rxvt does, with background images and transparency all with half the resources of rxvt ;)08:17
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo08:17
anacronreka: sudo -s08:17
reka:)08:17
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dgimusiquei can't sudo 'Cause it says i'm not in the sudo list!08:17
dgimusiqueand i'm the only user!08:17
rekahe gets this: 'dgimusique is not in the sudoers file' when trying to open synaptic08:17
Razor-Xthen edit the sudo list08:17
rekahe did08:17
dgimusiquei can'T open the sudo list08:18
rekaoh.08:18
Razor-Xdgimusique: then get a boot floppy08:18
arudid he use the right password?08:18
highvoltageyou need sudo to edit the sudo list :)08:18
Razor-Xand edit it from there08:18
Razor-Xhighvoltage: I understand that08:18
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dgimusiquelol my floppy drive doesn't work...08:18
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Razor-Xdgimusique: then take a fscking live cd08:18
The_VoxI still don't understand why some people end up not being in the sudo list when they install08:18
IIIEarsdgimusique - you can always throw down with your uruly os - boot the live cd create some working dirs and edit the fscking sudoer thang08:19
Razor-XThe_Vox: problems like that make sudo a tad bit unreliable08:19
rekaThe_Vox: i didn't realise it was a common problem08:19
anacronThe_Vox: i managed to do that with server installing somehow08:19
hacked`guys, im resizing one of my windows partitions and creating a partition for linux with partition magic, but partition magic is asking me what partition type i want to set it as? unformatted, ext2, ext3 ?08:19
Lone_Strikerneed help; just install ubuntu, everything works great but no sound at all, no music; computer is a Compaq Presario 5280; tried configuring the sound like it says on the guide online, still don't work; any suggestions would be accepted.08:19
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The_Voxreka: it's the 3rd user I've seen with that problem since I started coming here a week ago08:19
rekahacked`: what for?  install? or just for data?08:19
Razor-Xhacked`: for your reference, there is no ``Linux'' partition name ;)08:19
La_PaRCahacked`, I would go with unformatted08:19
Razor-Xchoose ext308:19
Razor-Xand also, make some swap space08:20
Razor-Xhow much RAM ya got?08:20
The_VoxRazor-X: I don't think it's a sudo problem...it's more like a corner case getting past the installer08:20
aruhacked`: format the entire thing, even the windows portion :)08:20
Fidelioanybody with some knowledge of dhcp3-client?08:20
dbernar1_and dont forget to wash your hands before eating.08:20
Razor-XThe_Vox: regardless, that makes sudo unreliable08:20
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Trackilizeris there a GUI that can be used to install .deb, .rpm, .tarballs???08:20
anacronwhat's the difference between ext2 and 3?08:20
rekaThe_Vox: it's the first for me.08:20
Razor-XThe_Vox: by the way, you use nethack?08:20
Lone_Strikerany suggestions?08:20
Razor-Xanacron: ext3 is a journaled fs08:20
aruTrackilizer: what are you installing?08:20
dbernar1_get some ice for Razor-X08:20
IIIEarslol08:20
dbernar1_i say08:20
The_VoxRazor-X: it makes sudo unreliable *on ubuntu* :) sudo rocks, tho.08:20
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Razor-XTrackilizer: tar -xvzf isn't _that_ hard08:20
Trackilizeri know08:21
_frankTrackilizer: synaptic does .deb08:21
The_Voxreka: I read my logs <chuckle> :)08:21
Razor-XThe_Vox: i've broken into the habit of sudo'ing nowadays08:21
Lone_Strikerany suggestions?08:21
hacked`i'll be installing ubuntu on that parition08:21
Razor-XI used to use su all the time, 'afore08:21
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Trackilizeri wanna have a GUI to install source files08:21
The_VoxRazor-X: and no, I don't nethack...haven't done that in a long long while08:21
Razor-XI've had enough GUI for today, especially Windows GUI08:21
Razor-XThe_Vox: gah!08:21
rekaThe_Vox: sad...i do that too. :)08:21
aruTrackilizer: did you see if there is a package with Synaptic?08:21
Razor-XI would like to know the Dvorak binds you use08:21
Lone_Strikerany of you guys have problem with sounds?08:21
Trackilizernah!08:21
anacroni thing doom-roguelike is better than nethack08:21
Razor-Xaru: if you have Ark, that should do archives real well08:22
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aruLone_Striker: just loud ones08:22
The_Voxreka: hehehe08:22
Razor-XLone_Striker: depends08:22
aruRazor-X: you are not allowed to talk to me08:22
_frankTrackilizer: I'm pretty sure that doesn't exist08:22
Lone_Strikeri have got no sounds08:22
Trackilizerubuntu is the only distro that simply "works"08:22
The_VoxRazor-X: oh! last time I played nethack was pre-dvorak :)08:22
Razor-Xaru: hmmmmm?08:22
Razor-Xerrr, not aru08:22
aruheh08:22
Razor-XTrackilizer: try ark08:22
Razor-XThe_Vox: gah!08:22
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Lone_Strikerany suggestions for making the sound work08:22
rekaLone_Striker: keep coming back here until crimsun shows up....he's the resident sound guru08:22
Razor-XI'm one of the few 15 year old Dvorak nethack emacs users, I think ;)08:22
IIIEarsRazor-X - Fix windows? - bah, salvage the files you can and reinstall from a disk image file. - all tweaks patches updates in place.08:22
Razor-Xor anywhere around that age, hah08:22
The_VoxRazor-X: hehehe08:23
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Razor-XIIIEars: my dad hates Linux, and the like08:23
NetEchoTrackilizer Slackware works quite well too08:23
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Razor-XNetEcho: HAHAHAHAHAHA08:23
Lone_Strikercrimsun huh?? i could wait.08:23
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aruTrackilizer: I would try using Synaptic and seeing if there is a package available of your mystery software08:23
Lone_Strikerthanks, i could wait08:23
NetEchoRazor-X I take it you've had problems?08:23
Razor-Xdon't reccomend Slack to someone why needs GUI for tar files, there's a skill level needed for Slack XD08:23
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NetEchoI've used Slackware since 8.108:23
Razor-XTrackilizer: like I said, try Ark08:23
Lone_Strikeris slackware good?08:23
rekaLone_Striker: you probably have to...imho, not many people in here know of fixes08:23
NetEchoit was my first distro lol08:23
Razor-XNetEcho: Slackware kicks ass, definitely08:23
NetEchowell08:24
Trackilizerokie08:24
aruNetEcho: I did slack 3 installs over a 14.4 modem08:24
RichardChey08:24
Trackilizerill try it08:24
NetEchoI used Redhat for 10 minutes lol08:24
Razor-Xewwww, that hat tastes funny08:24
RichardCi need to install the package xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk08:24
Razor-X;)08:24
Lone_Strikeri think i try slackware also.  i could wait for the sound guru08:24
RichardCit is from the debian repository08:24
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aruwe better calm down before they send us to #ubuntu-offtopic08:24
NetEchoRazor-X why do you think I switched08:24
Lone_Strikerthanks though guys or gals08:24
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hondjehoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo08:24
hondjeGoogle moon rocks08:24
Razor-XNetEcho: heh08:24
IIIEarsNetEcho - lucky you. - RH has always been. erm "fun"08:24
NetEchoal you really need to remember is install to MBR and startx08:24
Trackilizerwhere can Ark be found?08:24
Razor-XTrackilizer: it's probably in the repos08:24
RichardCdoes anyone know of a ubuntu deb of this package?08:24
Trackilizerwill have to wait till i get home to install it anyways08:24
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RichardCi need it to get full-speed in some of my games, mainly zsnes08:25
aruTrackilizer: Applications > Accessories >Archive Manager08:25
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Trackilizerokike08:25
ubuntudriftfast1is it possible for the irc to be considered an securtiy threat? I doubt it , but Im fresh off a windows and am paranoid08:25
Trackilizerokie*08:25
IIIEarsUbuntu by RH would be 4 CDs Ugh!08:25
Trackilizerthanks for that08:25
Trackilizerwill try as soon as i get home08:25
aruwould be easier if you searched synaptic for the package08:25
Razor-Xubuntudriftfast1: of course it can, in the sense of privacy08:25
Razor-XIRC is a plain-text protocol08:25
Lone_Strikersound experts; need help; waiting for crimsum or anyone who knows about sound problem08:26
Razor-Xeverything you are transmitting right now, to this channel, can be sniffed and dumped with ease08:26
Razor-X;)08:26
ubuntudriftfast1razor-x by that do you mean that everyone can see what your typing ? :)08:26
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rekaRichardC: mixing debian with ubuntu is a no-no, iirc08:26
The_Voxubuntudriftfast1: like anything else, if the program has holes, it is a security problem...if the program doesn't have holes, it isn't a security problem.08:26
Razor-Xit can be sniffed anywhere along the chain, as long as traffic isn't encrypted, which I don't think freenode's servers do08:26
IIIEarsRazor-X - anyone can get your ip also. :/08:26
RichardCreka: that is exactly what i was thinking.  do you know of a place i can get that package for ubuntu?08:26
Razor-Xubuntudriftfast1: no, by that, I mean, if you post anything private using IRC, then someone can sniff your data stream08:26
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hondjefreenode does08:26
Razor-Xand yeah, they can obtain your IP too08:26
hondjewell, it CAN08:26
ubuntudriftfast1alright, well are daemons or services whateva there called a vuln on linux?08:27
ubuntudriftfast1is there any? Or should I just look for updates?08:27
Razor-Xubuntudriftfast1: you sound like a Windows user, for user ;)08:27
Lone_Strikersound problem; still waiting08:27
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Razor-Xfor a second here, how many people hack Linux boxes?08:27
Razor-XLone_Striker: what _type_ of sound problem?08:27
IIIEarsIf you are "Really" paranoid - grab an inexpensive shell account somwhere and proxy to IRC - O_008:27
Lone_Strikerno sound at all08:27
Aegir^So ubuntudriftfast1, who did you piss off who's out to get your server?08:28
rekaRichardC: i can see a xlibmesa-dri package in the ubuntu repos, but not the one you stated.  what does it do exactly?08:28
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hondjeIt's a bit irresponsible not to pen test yourself08:28
Lone_Strikerno music, sound, etc.08:28
Razor-XIIIEars: I do that all the time08:28
Razor-Xnot paranoia though08:28
Lone_Strikereverything works great though08:28
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Razor-XIIIEars: it's called the ``Windows'' mentality08:28
ubuntudriftfast1razor-x does ubuntu have any know vulns?08:28
Razor-Xubuntudriftfast1: there are no RPC errors, sorry ;)08:28
Razor-Xmost known vulnerabilities are patched08:29
ubuntudriftfast1I didnt piss off anyone, what do you mean?08:29
Razor-Xand also, think of this08:29
Razor-Xhow many people hack Linux boxes08:29
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hondjea lot, Razor-X08:29
IIIEarsRazor-X - Hack me a twenty five minute reinstall - no sweat. no #'s or personal info.08:29
hondjeno one wants your #s or personal info08:29
hondjethey want your internet connection08:29
Razor-Xhondje: I mean hack the box itself08:29
Lone_Strikersound problem; still waiting08:29
IIIEarsHeh - windows is a ten CD set install that takes 2+ hours to reinstall08:30
ubuntudriftfast1I always said that linux is more reliable but being open source, i figured it would be easier to get hacked08:30
hondjeit's not easier to get hacked unless you're stupid08:30
Madpilotyeah, but it's so much easier to zombie an XP box, if you want to 'borrow' someone's internet connection...08:30
Razor-Xubuntudriftfast1: but, there's a key reason why hackers don't08:30
Dr_Willishmm.. i think that logic is faulty08:30
highvoltageubuntudriftfast1: quite the oposite is true.08:30
ubuntudriftfast1IIIEars 25 min for reinstall if you do repair08:30
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Razor-Xbecause the majority of the Linux users have securer networks08:30
highvoltageit's more difficult to hack, being open source. vulnarabilities are fixed quicker.08:30
Razor-Xand the majority of the users of the world _use_ Windows08:30
ubuntudriftfast135 min for full ntfs08:30
hondjebut it's quite easy to get yourself owned pushing buttons, far easier than windows08:30
highvoltage(and found quicker)08:30
RichardCreka: im not sure, however, it fixes the same problem i am having for all debian systems.08:31
Lone_Strikerstill waiting; no sound problem08:31
IIIEarsnah - i just fdisk and throw in the CD08:31
Razor-Xhondje: it's a very effective intelligence leveller08:31
hondjeper capita, linux is owned as much as windows, at least from what I've seen08:31
ubuntudriftfast1yea, im on live cd right now so if i mess anything up its all good08:31
hondjeno it's not08:31
Razor-Xhondje: not a chance, for the average home user, Linux is much less common08:32
ubuntudriftfast1is there a back up program that comes with linux?08:32
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Dr_Willisseveral :P08:32
hondjeYes, but there are millions of webservers running linux, file servers, dns, etc etc08:32
ubuntudriftfast1and how do you find which programs will work on your distro08:32
Dr_Willisand many more you can download.08:32
Lone_Strikersound problem; still waiting08:32
hondjelinux is quite often owned08:32
IIIEarshondje - true - if the hackers are really aiming at your machine you are done. - they hacked spreadfirefox last week a large bank 3 weeks ago. - those companies have huge security budgets08:32
hondjecount the newbies coming in asking simple apache questions08:32
Razor-Xexactly08:33
ubuntudriftfast1iiiears yea i did a report on the mozilla hacking08:33
hondjeor people running crap like awstats on their little sites, etc08:33
Razor-Xif somene's really after me, then, hell, get me ;)08:33
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Razor-XI have almost nothing of worth, anyways08:33
Lone_Strikersound problem; still waiting for anyone who could help08:33
ubuntudriftfast1they said it was for spam :)08:33
hondjeor even having /dev/shm mounted rw and having a webserver08:33
bob2hacking someone's desktop is harder than hacking spreadfirefox08:33
bob2since a desktop has n oservices to attack08:33
Dr_Willisgo hack hotmail. :P08:33
tankiRazor-X, not good to think like that because it's not about what you have it's about the act08:33
bob2so you need to trick the user into running something themselves, or find a flaw in the kernel tcp/ip stack08:33
ubuntudriftfast1are all services on linux called daemons08:33
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: more or less08:34
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Razor-Xtanki: well, I like to think my network's pretty secure08:34
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Lone_Strikersound problem; still waiting08:34
bob2it depends how you define "service"08:34
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Madpilotdeamons sounds cooler than 'services'... ;)08:34
Razor-Xbut if you have about 30 people looking through my stuff, making router dumps, pinging ports, etc., then I know i've lost08:34
Dr_Willisisent a daemon a specific kind of program that automaticially spawns to the background.08:34
hondjeor wait for them to say 'hey, running a ftpd sounds fun!'08:34
bob2Razor-X: so don\'t run vulnerable services08:34
ubuntudriftfast1yea its just im learnin windows sever 03 etc.... plus linux on top of it all so im tryin to find similaririteis08:34
Razor-Xbob2: I don't08:34
tankiRazor-X, if a box is compromised and there's nothing worth stealing, they dont just leave.. they find other uses for it, maybe use it to attack someone else08:35
Razor-XI have almost any vulnerable port stealthed08:35
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Razor-Xtanki: if they take my box, I yank the cord08:35
hondje'stealthing' is pointless08:35
IIIEarsRazor-X - not too sure IRC is secure - direct chat is available no?08:35
tankiRazor-X, i know i'm just speaking in general terms08:35
Razor-Xthere's no defense against that08:35
bob2Dr_Willis: sorta, yeah; one definition might be something that calls the daemon() function, which does that08:35
bob2Razor-X: "stealthing" gains you no security08:35
Razor-Xor, I just change my IP08:35
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Lone_Strikerno sound problem; waiting08:35
Razor-XLone_Striker: understand, we aren't paid08:36
ubuntudriftfast1 raxor-x will ubuntu prepare me for a field in unix , or will i need to use all the distros?08:36
Razor-Xso, when you pay us, you can rant08:36
IIIEarsbufferoverflows not password hacks are the weak spot.08:36
Razor-Xtill then shut up and wait08:36
Lone_Strikeri know; just need help08:36
Razor-XLone_Striker: no sound at all?08:36
bob2IIIEars: that still requires exposed vulnerable services08:36
Lone_Strikeryeah08:36
Razor-Xhmmmm08:36
Razor-Xwhat sound card?08:36
Razor-Xand also, paste the output of ps -e in pastebin08:36
Lone_Strikeronboard on a Compaq Presario 528008:37
ubuntudriftfast1IIIEars - could you write a script so whenever a buffer overflow occurs, you could counterstrike?08:37
Razor-Xouch08:37
Razor-Xthat's probably why08:37
bob2Lone_Striker: your last 10 lines have all been "sound problem; still waiting", which is higly ineffective08:37
Razor-XI think your sound card has real crappy linux support08:37
Lone_Strikerwhat's effective then08:37
tankirazor, dont forget offtopic heh08:37
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: how do you detect a buffer overflow?  how do you know who was responsible?08:37
tankimust learn to multitask08:37
bob2Lone_Striker: asking your question sensibly; including details of what isn't working, what is, and what you've tried08:37
Razor-XI'm pretty crappy at ``multitasking''08:37
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bob2Lone_Striker: also trying the mailing list would be a good idea08:37
ubuntudriftfast1dont know, im just learning. Maybe set a limit in the web browser08:38
Razor-Xcomes with those hormones I hear08:38
Razor-Xtold ja they're useless ;)08:38
tankiRazor-X, just odd you reply here but not there08:38
Lone_Strikeri have tried configuring like the help that's on the site but still doesn't work08:38
Razor-Xtanki: because, I see the little thingie in the bottom of my buffer, but don't bother to change buffers08:38
Dr_Willisreading about your card at  the "alsa" homepage - is a good start08:38
ubuntudriftfast1bob2 isnt the character limit like 255 or something like that. Maybe do an if then else statement?08:38
Lone_Strikeri checked the bios and no problem08:38
IIIEarstripwire and other apps are mostly useful after the damage has been done.08:38
Razor-Xubuntudriftfast1: not all buffers have a 255 limit08:38
Lone_Strikernew to linux so don't know what else to do08:39
hondjethere's always grsec, pax, selinux, etc08:39
ubuntudriftfast1give or take how many?'08:39
hondjersbac is neat08:39
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: if you could detect a buffer overflow, you'd just stop it08:39
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ubuntudriftfast1I thought they did the buffer overflow once they were already in the machine, i guess i have alot more learning to do\08:39
Razor-Xubuntudriftfast1: no, you can remote buffer overflow08:40
bob2it can be used at either time08:40
Razor-Xand while this is outdated, you can try and peruse through ``Smashing the stack for fun and profit'' if you know some C08:40
bob2remote buffer overflows are critical security issues, which don't happen very often08:40
IIIEarsubuntudriftfast1, - the next generation of processors have a "no execute bit" set in RAM that marks segemnts as data/executable. (64 bit)08:40
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bimberiLone_Striker: Hah - I was about to point Lone_Striker to  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=19639&postcount=808:40
bob2er, that's unrelated to them being 64-bit08:40
La_PaRCaIIIEars, NX is dead on arrival. Its not gonna stick.08:41
bob2and I'm pretty sure other architectures have had it for years08:41
ubuntudriftfast1just a new feature that prevents the exe on buffer overflow?08:41
IIIEarsnot perfect still a few brand new "'sploits" out for 64 bit08:41
Razor-Xalso ``Buffer Overflow Demystified''08:41
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bob2I think you mean "amd64" instead of 64-bit08:41
Razor-Xand ``IP Spoofing Demystified''08:41
bob2which is an important, if subtle, difference08:41
Razor-Xnice articles from when the internet was a free-er place08:41
IIIEarsLa_PaRCa, - yep - you have been reading a "heap" haven't you?08:41
aleksi_what mail server would you recommend for trying and learning purposes?08:41
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hondjeor use pax, tends to make overflows pointless08:42
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bob2aleksi_: postfix08:42
tankiI think it was free-er because nobody would pay lots of money for slow speeds heh08:42
La_PaRCaIIIEars, oh... subtle...08:42
Trackilizerwho uses ubuntu in thier job?08:42
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IIIEarsSubtle? - oops. - lol - not usually08:42
Trackilizerwhat for?08:42
hondjemaking pretty pictures08:43
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Trackilizerlol08:43
Trackilizerlol*08:43
ubuntudriftfast1has anyone used Blade Servers08:43
Trackilizerhonestly?08:43
hondjeor doing various pointless things with data08:43
hondjeyeah08:43
Razor-Xwell, nowadays, articles like that are seriously taboo08:43
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hondjegraphs, charts, histograms, etc08:43
La_PaRCaIIIEars, oh sorry, I dont know the proper markup for sarcasm08:43
ubuntudriftfast1is there anything that prepares you for it?08:43
tankiyou have to give props to people who can sell linux to a wincentric supervisor, they're pretty hard to win over08:43
Razor-Xbecause most people nowadays are pricks08:43
rommeri have a couple of identical computers that i am looking to turn into a cluster using ubuntu linux, anyone have an idea on how to do this08:43
Trackilizerbut that isnt your job.. ist it?08:43
IIIEarsheh08:43
Trackilizeris*08:43
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hondjeTrackilizer: yes, that's my job08:43
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bob2ubuntudriftfast1: I don't think they're really that different to other machines08:44
PoopinClumpinrommer, it depends on what kind of cluster you want vs. what kind of cluster you need08:44
Ghetekwhere is fstab located?08:44
aleksi_know any good guide for postfix?08:44
Dr_Willistheres a great many cluster linux sites out.. and even a few cluster-linux focused disrtos.08:44
Trackilizerso you get payed for making pics?08:44
Trackilizerwtf?08:44
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: aside from being physically small08:44
bob2Ghetek: /etc/08:44
La_PaRCaI used to have a blade server... had to trash it... it kept killing all my daemons ;)08:44
IIIEarsmy 2 cents doesn't have any mark up value....08:44
hondjeI suppose I do stupid stuff like writing memos and going to meetings, too08:44
bob2aleksi_: I hear the o'reilly book is pretty good08:44
Ghetekbob2 thanks08:44
hondjeYes, I get paid to make pictures08:44
Razor-XO' Reilly makes good books08:44
tankibut you have to admit some of microsoft's licensing does more to advocate an alternative like linux than most loyal geeks, especially for small to medium sized businesses who can't afford it08:44
Razor-Xthe best for Linux things, IMO08:44
gijoshSilly question here.  But, how do you delete a director.  I know rm does files...08:44
La_PaRCaIIIEars, see? Thats good humor.08:44
gijoshdirectory*08:44
ubuntudriftfast1bob2 will linux make the crossover to ibm easy, or is it going to be like starting from scratch?08:44
Dr_Willisrm can do that as well. :P08:44
hondjecrossing over to IBM what?08:45
hondjeAIX?08:45
ubuntudriftfast1yea08:45
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: how do you mean?  AIX?08:45
gijoshDr_Willis  Well when I tried I got the message that it's a directory..08:45
holycowtanki, not only that ....08:45
ubuntudriftfast1aix08:45
Trackilizeri read this blog the other day where a guy who always used linix went to windows xp08:45
holycow... i love the bsa organization08:45
tankiaix and xenox sitting in a tree..08:45
Trackilizerhe couldnt work with it08:45
Dr_Willisor rmdir, or rm -rf08:45
hondjeThe fundamentals are the same08:45
holycowi wish they would do like weekly raids08:45
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: basic unix usage is pretty standard, but AIX has some of it's own quirks08:45
ws009hiiiiii08:45
gijoshDr_Willis Thanks man08:45
Trackilizercause he had to look for all his apps online08:45
holycowthat would REALLY make open source a very attractive proposition08:45
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: if you expect to admin AIX boxes, you'll want an AIX-specific book, or an AIX person to help you08:45
Trackilizerhe was used to "apt-get"08:45
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ubuntudriftfast1bob2 i just want to be prepared when i get into the industry, and dont want to leave anything out08:46
tankiholycow, open source yeah but not necessarily GNU08:46
Trackilizerhe left win after only 1 week08:46
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rommerPoopinClumpin: i basically want to learn more about it, going to try server web pages to start off with (they r slow computers)08:46
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La_PaRCadownload.com cant hold a candle to universe!!!08:46
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ubuntudriftfast1whats the longest a linux server has ever stayed online for ?08:47
bob2non-free software for windows, basically08:47
La_PaRCalook at the windows n00b. Let him run in the wind!08:47
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: years08:47
Razor-Xubuntudriftfast1: Linux servers have nice uptimes08:47
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: but uptime is not a useful measure of anything, except for guessing how many kernel exploits you can throw at a particular machine08:47
IIIEarsubuntulog, - no aweat - give ubuntu a try. - you will like it and have a good basic knowledge in no time. - sure beats using an unreliable windows box.08:47
ubuntudriftfast1and i can run ubuntu as server?08:47
tankii'd be scared to have an account on a box that hasn't been rebooted in years though08:47
Razor-XBSD servers have kickass fscking uptimes ;)08:47
tankiyou can't hotfix kernels08:47
Trackilizerdo you guys think there ever will be a google OS08:47
Trackilizer?08:47
hondjethere already is08:47
Trackilizerthere is?08:48
hondjeI'm sure google has customized the hell out of their installs08:48
bob2tanki: hmm, depends08:48
bob2if it's a problem in a module, you can08:48
bob2(sometimes)08:48
Razor-XTrackilizer: I don't like the concept of ``A google world''08:48
hondjewow08:48
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hondjeall this software at download.com sucks08:48
Razor-Xgoogle has a nice search engine08:48
Razor-Xbut, I think it's move for uniformity is useless08:48
Ghetekhow do i list all hard drive/partitions?08:48
desrthondje; any of it free?08:48
La_PaRCaRazor-X, right on... Google is getting a wee bit scarringly big.08:48
Dr_Willishondje,  lol - and its like 90% spam/ad/demoware08:48
desrtGhetek; cat /proc/partitions08:48
hondjeas in beer?08:49
IIIEarshondje - how does google do it? - geez - even image files can trip up a server and they surf everywhere.08:49
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desrthondje; as in free08:49
Dr_WillisGhetek,  fdisk -l08:49
cathey i have a question can i changed from sarge to ubuntu?08:49
ubuntudriftfast1bob2 at what time when your modifying a linux kernal does it become a new distro? Has anyone done it on a user level or are they all major proj.?08:49
desrtDr_Willis; oo.  that's nice.08:49
hondjeIIIEars: lots of cheap distributed clients, and tons of presearching08:49
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: differences between kernels are not huge between distros08:49
hondjethey index a bizarre amount of searches in advance08:49
bob2well, they can be large, but it's not the important change08:49
bob2cat: not easily08:50
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tankibob is right as long as the distro uses a GNU kernel08:50
hondjeum, the GNU kernel is Hurd08:50
hondje:)08:50
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bob2hurd would make it even easier, but you can hotfix large parts of linux08:50
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holycowtanki, good point on gnu, but not everything or everyone agrees with 100 % free software08:51
ubuntudriftfast1bob2 howabout throwing a good place to download codecs etc.... so i can watch vids08:51
rommeri have a couple of identical computers that i am looking to turn into a cluster using ubuntu linux, anyone have an idea on how to do this08:51
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holycowtanki, i'm not so sure its a good idea that everything is gnu, as much as it is a goal to strive for08:51
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:51
bob2rommer: what do you want them to do?08:51
IIIEarsAnyone see the new calition between Intel and microsoft on DRM? - techrepublic sent out an email08:51
ubuntudriftfast1bob2 Im real stoked as it is seeing how i just swtiched from a server03 with no sound. I feel like im free08:51
bob2"cluster" can mean lots of thing08:51
ubuntudriftfast1bob2 thanks08:52
IIIEarserm "coalition"08:52
pefbonjour08:52
Dr_Willisrommer,  check out the cluster linux info sites.. and a 'cluster' linux speficic disrto08:52
tankiholycow, yeah that's up for debate08:52
pefhi08:52
pef:] 08:52
hondjeImagine a beowulf cluster of them....08:52
MadpilotIIIEars: yeah, the built-in monitor-DRM cr*p? saw that...08:52
ColonelKernelis there openmosix for 2.6 kernels yet?08:52
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rommerbob2: spread processes over all nodes of the cluster08:52
bob2rommer: to do what?08:53
tankihurd is a wasteful step towards EROS/Vapour08:53
bob2do you mean mosix? LRI?08:53
RichardCi followed the steps here http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs for installing multimedia codecs, however i dont believe everything installed correctly.  from the System->preferences->multimedia systems selector, under the video tab, video 4 linux was set as the input source, but when i press test, i get the error: "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'Video for Linux (v4l)'"  Anyone know what to do?08:53
RichardCwoops08:53
RichardClong post08:53
bob2tanki: no, it's a highly useful project, that a bunch of people enjoy working on08:53
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rommermosix08:53
ubuntudriftfast1bob2 and everyone else, have a good night and thanks08:53
bob2RichardC: do you know waht V4L is?08:53
bob2ubuntudriftfast1: adios08:53
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RichardCbob2: nope08:53
hacked`guys, i just installed ubuntu, and it installed grub at the end, and now when my pc boots it says "grub loading stage1.5   grub loading, please wait... Error 17" and my PC just hangs there08:54
RichardCjust figured that the default should work08:54
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RichardChacked`: maybe this will help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1669.html08:54
Razor-XI wish my friend had loaned me his physical book instead of his PDF :(08:54
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tankibtw HURD is NOT a kernel, it's a series of server running on the Mach MicroKernel.. which means you could write up a linux server on HURD and run it like linux but dont get them confused08:54
Razor-Xhe spent money on the whole thing, why give me just the PDF08:54
bob2RichardC: it requires special hardware for video input08:55
Razor-XI'm a big fan of printed books08:55
bob2RichardC: if you don't have that hardware, it's unsurprising that it doesnt work ;p08:55
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RichardCbob2: then why is it the default?08:55
bob2RichardC: because it's reasonable08:55
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MadpilotRazor-X: yeah, they work when the comp breaks and you're trying to fix it... too bad O'Reilly stuff is so expensive, tho...08:55
tankibob2, HURD is probably famous for its slowass development08:55
hondjeusb 3-1: config 1 interface 0 altsetting 0 has 3 endpoint descriptors, different from the interface descriptor's value: 2 <-- anyone know what thatm eans?08:55
RichardCso what should the video output source be set to?08:56
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bob2tanki: sure, but lots of cool things have bad reps08:56
bob2RichardC: XVideo is good, if it works08:56
thechitowncubswhy doesn't linux have a way of installing software from websites?08:56
RichardCsdl and xwindows (no xv) both work08:56
ColonelKerneli love my dual boot08:56
thechitowncubsin linux its pretty hard just to go to a website and get software08:56
vladuz976hi, if i want to add another HD, how would i make ubuntu recognize it? anybody know?08:56
Dr_Willisthechitowncubs,  it does.08:56
thechitowncubsi was wondering if there is any plan to resolve these issues08:56
RichardCbob2: is XWindows (No Xv) ok?08:56
tankibob, hurd is mostly just a political effort08:56
highvoltagethechitowncubs: apt?08:56
bob2thechitowncubs: it's trivial, but stupid08:56
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Dr_Willisthechitowncubs,  thats easially done with the 'autopackage'  tool - but not everone uses it..08:56
tankii mean, linux has a lot of stupidities. but nothing can touch hurd ingeneral incompetence.08:57
thechitowncubsi know about apt-get and everything08:57
bob2thechitowncubs: using apt is a far better way to get coherent stuff that works well together08:57
thechitowncubsi know about building from source08:57
hacked`wtf, i hate ubuntu08:57
hacked`i just installed ubuntu, and it installed grub at the end, and now when my pc boots it says "grub loading stage1.5   grub loading, please wait... Error 17" and my PC just hangs there08:57
bob2tanki: er, are you an OS designer?08:57
Trackilizerwhy08:57
Trackilizer?08:57
hacked`what kind of garbage is that08:57
thechitowncubsbut there isn't really an easy way to get 3rd party software that isn't in the repos08:57
Trackilizerubuntu is great08:57
bob2hacked`: thanks for your insightful commentary08:57
nicedreamsIs /dev/hdb only the primary slave or is that for the second hard drive?  Like /dev/hdc would be primary master even if it is a single drive with no other drives right?  Or am I wrong?08:57
bob2thechitowncubs: the easy way is to get it in the repositories!08:57
ColonelKernelhacked`, maybe you ought to try another distro then08:57
RichardChacked`: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1669.html????08:57
hacked`whos the one who said earlier that ubuntu "simply works"08:57
hacked`richardc, tried, does nothing08:57
hondjeI think I found two apps that aren't in the repos08:57
Trackilizerme08:57
Trackilizeri said it simply works08:57
Trackilizerit does for me08:58
bob2hacked`: so, on your particular hardware, it doesn't08:58
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Madpilotthechitowncubs: if there's a .deb package available,that's usually easy to install. Opera, for example08:58
RichardCit does fror me08:58
tankibob2, I sat down a couple years ago and hacked together a tiny microkernel over a couple of days which I was using for testing some boards, and it could do more than hurd too. and it was a piece of shit..08:58
thechitowncubsfor example, firefox releases updates, the *new* ubuntu user goes to download it and then it doesn't work08:58
Trackilizereverything just works08:58
bob2tanki: then I don't think you're in a good position to comment08:58
vladuz976can anybody help and tell me how to mount my extra hard drive?08:58
hondjehurds not so bad, it can even run mplayer now hehe08:58
bob2thechitowncubs: so, they shouldn't download it fro mthere08:58
hacked`bob2, k, i already had the previous version of ubuntu installed on this same machine, so thats out the window08:58
thechitowncubsMadpilot: installing it requires going to the console which shouldn't be required of anything08:58
cool_budcn anyone help me with es1371 sound card08:58
thechitowncubsbob2: how should one go about getting a new release of firefox?08:58
bob2thechitowncubs: by not getting it08:59
Madpilotthechitowncubs: *shrug* what can you do?08:59
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Dr_Willis thechitowncubs,   http://www.autopackage.org/downloads.html   - can let ya install stuff without all that  - but it has its own 'problems'08:59
hondjevery zen, ubuntu08:59
bob2thechitowncubs: and waiting for the next release of ubuntu to come out08:59
tankibob2, whys that? I know people who've been developing it for 11 years and it still can't stay up longer than a week08:59
bob2thechitowncubs: or by running the development version08:59
Madpilotthechitowncubs: you've been listening to Burgundavia, right? ;)08:59
Trackilizermy unbuntu cds came08:59
RichardCbob2: is XVideo (No Xv) ok?08:59
Trackilizer5 cds08:59
bob2tanki: yes, it's been slowly developed...can your kernel run 80% of the Debian archive?08:59
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RichardCwrr08:59
RichardCerr08:59
bob2RichardC: it's slower, but ok08:59
tankitheir idea of a buffer cache is mmap()'ing the fucking filesystem08:59
Trackilizergave 3 away alreday08:59
thechitowncubsbob2: well i think the user should be able to do it08:59
tankilol08:59
hondjethey can do it08:59
RichardCbob2:so should i use sdl or xwindows?09:00
bob2thechitowncubs: and I'd like wings so I could fly09:00
hacked`anyways, is there any way i can not load grub on bootup, and reinstall ubuntu09:00
hondjebut a new user would probably go the easy route and use synaptic09:00
thechitowncubsi just don't understand it, i have been using ubuntu and think its great for a long time09:00
Burgundaviathechitowncubs, that is why you wait for your vendor (Ubuntu) to patch09:00
bob2RichardC: doesn't really matter, I think SDL will use the exact same output method as X Windows in that case09:00
gp_aaron|upstairis there anyway I can stop Media change: please insert the disc labeled09:00
gp_aaron|upstair 'Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)'09:00
gp_aaron|upstairin the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter09:00
gp_aaron|upstairfrom coming up09:00
gp_aaron|upstairevery time I try to install something09:00
bob2thechitowncubs: it's trivial if you want it, setup firefox to install .debs when you click on them, or use autopackage09:00
Burgundaviagp_aaron|upstair, lauch synaptic and remove the cdrom09:00
thechitowncubsI guess that makes since, but what about software that isn't in the repos and requires to be built from source09:00
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bob2thechitowncubs: but it's a terrible idea, since it encourages people to install random, broken junk09:00
thechitowncubswhat is the installion model for that09:00
Dr_Willisedit the apt.cources gp_aaron|upstair  and comment out the cdrom line is another way. :P first line i think.09:00
hondje'going to websites' to get stuff is for people without package managers. If a user doesn't want to trust the pkgmanager, they should use something like slackware09:01
gp_aaron|upstairBurgundavia, it is a server install, no synaptic09:01
bob2thechitowncubs: things are in ubuntu (main) because they're tested and stable09:01
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thechitowncubsbob2: i understand that09:01
Burgundaviagp_aaron|upstair, then remove it from your sources.list09:01
Trackilizerfirefox doesnt want to seem to want to update09:01
Burgundaviagp_aaron|upstair, it should be the first line09:01
gp_aaron|upstairDr_Willis, just '#' comment them out?09:01
BurgundaviaTrackilizer, firefox update is disabled in Ubuntu09:01
Trackilizerwhy?09:01
Dr_Willisgp_aaron|upstair,  yea. thats all that the synaptic thing does  really. :P09:01
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Trackilizerany reason for that?09:01
BurgundaviaTrackilizer, that is the job of our security team to backport the fix09:01
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Dr_Willis:P09:01
hondjeTrackilizer: if you are having problems getting extensions, about:config in the location bar, look for 'vendorSub', and change the version09:02
Trackilizerif the next ubuntu rls came tommorrow would i have to reinstall the whole thing?09:02
thechitowncubsThe user wants freedom, and being held down by the software available to them provided by their vendor just seems ridiculous.09:02
hondjeother than that, security stuff is done by people who get paid to keep you safe09:02
hondjeYou're not being held down09:03
hondjeYou're just being asked to rtfm before doing it09:03
Dr_WillisI perfer security in my os.. vs.. ease to install any random program.09:03
bob2thechitowncubs: they have freedom09:03
Dr_Willisi can wait a week or 2 for official updates.09:03
Burgundaviathechitowncubs, you are free to break you package management system. Just don't expect support when you do09:03
Madpilotgiven the amount of stuff in Ubuntu repos, it's hard to describe it as "being held down", really09:03
nicedreamsI have Grub installed and have 3 hard drives (windows | storage drive | ubuntu | dvd-rw).  My second hard drive which is my 'storage drive' has died and I had to remove it.  So now I have (windows | empty | ubuntu | dvd-rw).  Now since I have my storage drive disconnected I get a 'GRUB ERROR 21'.  How can I fix this?  I chroot to my /dev/hdc1 which is ubuntu through Knoppix and now what do I...09:03
nicedreams...do?  Please help me out!09:03
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thechitowncubsAlright, thanks for the disscussion everyone... I understand why a lot better now. That is all :)09:04
BurgundaviaTrackilizer, Breezy will have a clear upgrade path without a reinstall or needing to download a cd (ala FC)09:04
Trackilizercool!09:04
floocan anyone help with a usb printing problem?09:04
thechitowncubsSo is everyone excited about Breezy :)?09:04
hondjeI am09:04
hondjelots of neat stuff in gnome 2.1209:04
Trackilizerwhen is it coming?09:04
bob2thechitowncubs: if people really want it, they can configure firefox to install .debs when they click on them.  but it's a bad bad idea.09:04
hondjeoctober09:04
ColonelKernelnicedreams, I cannot guarantee this will work, but try out "grub-install -recheck /dev/hda"09:04
Dr_WillisIm waiting for the Ubuntu site to sell stuffed animal mascots for each release....09:04
gp_aaron|upstairthanks everyone that helped me09:04
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thechitowncubsbob2: is there an extension or something?09:05
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hacked`i hate stuffed animals09:05
Dr_Willishacked`,  even the "stuffed bacteria/viruses" that are getting popular? :P09:05
bob2thechitowncubs: no, you just associate .deb with "sudo dpkg -i"09:05
hacked`maybe i'll buy a ubuntu stuffed animal so i can use as a piata09:05
thechitowncubsinteresting, i'd rather not do that :)09:05
flooI can't get my hp digital copier 410 usb printer to print.09:05
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Dr_Willisfloo,  that a hp all in one scanner/printer?09:06
thechitowncubshondje: what is planned for gnome 2.12?09:06
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tankiIt's 3am, what am I doing up? All the sane americans are asleep09:06
flooit's a printer copier09:06
ColonelKernelrofl been like 2 weeks now banned in #fedora for mothing09:06
thechitowncubstanki: its 2am here :)09:06
Burgundaviathechitowncubs, here is a rought draft --> http://live.gnome.org/ReleasesNotes2p12Items09:06
flooit's using hpijs driver but I just can't get it to print09:06
flooit's detected by the system09:06
ColonelKernelthey did me a favor, now I use ubuntu09:06
thechitowncubsBurgundavia: thanks09:06
Dr_Willisfloo for my hp1012v  - i had to manually start the hpdoj service i THINK...  i got rid of it a few mo ago...09:07
nicedreamsColonelKernel: It says /sbin/grub-install: line 389: /dev/null: Permission denied.    I am in Knoppix and I mounted /dev/hdc1 and then 'chroot /mnt/hdc1'   Is that all I need to do to change root to do this?09:07
floohpdoj???09:07
Dr_Willisfloo,  there was some service that set the device up and did some other twiddling.. i forget its name. :(09:07
thechitowncubsBurgundavia: I am intersted in getting involved in Ubuntu, helping out... and i know that you are part of the doc team, what do you recommend for me to look into?09:07
ColonelKernelnicedreams, I am unsure but I dont know if you have to mount it or not09:07
Dr_Willisfloo may want to check the ubuntu wiki's/forums.09:07
Dr_Williswell its nap time09:07
Burgundaviathechitowncubs, if you want to join the doc team, we talk in #ubuntu-doc09:07
flooook thanks anyway09:07
ColonelKernelnicedreams, im used to the automatic rescue process09:07
tankithechitowncubs, i need to keep my insomnia in check.. i'm noticing i'm making more european friends because of my sleeping habit09:08
ColonelKerneland I think you can do linux rescue off of the ubuntu cd - or maybe thats just a fedora thing09:08
BurgundaviaColonelKernel, you can09:08
ColonelKerneltanki, yeah i got loads 'o friends overseas09:08
thechitowncubstanki: I don't have insomnia, a good book kept me up tonight, and i'd thought i'd get involved more with ubuntu while im up09:08
nicedreamsHow I do this recovery thing then?09:08
tankithechitowncubs, yeah i already finished the harry potter book09:08
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hondjelol09:08
tankithechitowncubs, now i'm going around the web posting spoilers09:09
thechitowncubsI was actually reading Artemis Fowl09:09
ColonelKernelok then nicedreams you should just boot the ubuntu cd and type linux rescue at the prompt09:09
nicedreamsIf I need the cd then I'll have to download it again since i gave my copy away...09:09
thechitowncubslol tanki09:09
ColonelKernelbummers!09:09
nicedreamsColonelKernel: k...i'll do that09:09
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ColonelKernelubuntu kicks butt so I want it to spread09:09
nicedreamsyeap09:09
MadpilotLinux is so viral...09:09
nicedreamsi ordered new cd's but they haven't came in about 2 months now09:09
ColonelKerneli might switch to debian but b/c the channel is so nuts ill prob stick w ubuntu09:09
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nicedreamsIf it wasn't for ubuntu repositories i'd be using debian09:10
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axisanyone know how to take a screenshot with Kubuntu?09:10
axiskde09:10
Burgundavianicedreams, given that Ubuntu repos are mostly debian...09:10
gijoshYou know how with some window managers when you minimize a window, instead of shooting down the the panel, it stays being able to be moved around?  Is there a way to set that up with Gnome/Metacity09:10
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nicedreamsBurgundavia: I thought they were heavily modified?09:10
Burgundavianicedreams, some bits are09:11
nicedreamscan I do this linux recovery with knoppix09:11
Burgundavianicedreams, any package with an ubuntu# after it has been modified by ubuntu09:11
nicedreamsor do i have to have ubuntu cd?09:11
axisAnyone know if there's a default app installed within Kubuntu to take screen shots?09:11
nicedreamsBurgundavia: ubuntu seems to have more packages in their repositories though still09:11
bob2!dstats09:11
ubotuUbuntu Distro Stats on hoary... 16270 packages, 1437 maintainers, 31005 MB installed size, 9820 MB compressed size.09:11
nicedreamsregardless....i'll use it if it's debian based....command line doesn't change at least09:12
Burgundavianicedreams, there a few that have made it into ubuntu and not debian. It is easier to get a new package into Ubuntu09:12
nicedreamsoh09:12
hondjeusb 3-1: config 1 interface 0 altsetting 0 has 3 endpoint descriptors, different from the interface descriptor's value: 2 <-- anyone know what that means?09:12
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bob2nicedreams: yeah, in total, Debian has more packages09:12
axisNM09:12
gp_aaron|upstairis there a online package list?09:12
axislol09:12
bob2but ubuntu does indeed have some that Debian doesn't09:12
nickrud1437, my :)09:12
hondjepackages.ubuntu.org09:12
vladuz976anybody know if there is a way to make emacs start in the terminal by default?09:12
poningrucan anyone check mozilla.org site09:13
tankibob2 i said something nice to you in the other channel09:13
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gp_aaron|upstairthanks09:13
tankii'm going to bed, good night09:13
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poningruand see if its down please?09:13
nicedreamsi've noticed the packages I like are in ubuntu more09:13
bob2gp_aaron|upstair: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rweir/ubuntu_packages_powerpc.txt09:13
bob2bah09:13
nicedreamswell actualy they are backports09:13
tankiremember kiddies, only you can prevent core dumps09:13
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RQhello09:13
hondjeulimit -c unlimited, for all your reading pleasure09:13
bob2nicedreams: yes, the backports people have packaged some things that the law would suggest they shouldn't09:13
nicedreamsCan I do a linux recovery from Knoppix?09:13
bob2nicedreams: depends what you mean by "recovery09:14
nicedreamslike how I need to fix grub09:14
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nicedreamsColonelKernel: said to use ubuntu cd and type 'linux recovery'   is that just ubuntu?09:14
RQis there ANY way to get X working in breezy? :)09:14
ColonelKernelnicedreams, linux rescue09:14
bob2gp_aaron|upstair: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rweir/ubuntu_packages_powerpc.txt09:14
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nicedreamsoh09:15
nicedreamsoops09:15
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bob2poningru: wfm09:15
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BurgundaviaRQ, yes, depends on the person and their machine09:15
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RQperson is me09:16
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RQand machine is a p409:16
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RQoh btw, is there a kernel argument i could pass to tell it not to try to run X server?09:17
RQexcept "single"?09:17
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hondjethe kernel doesn't care about X09:17
hondjejust stop gdm from starting09:17
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RQyeah. how? :)09:18
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RQok, "single" will work for now :)09:18
RQBurgundavia, what is the way? :)09:18
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Chinmanhow to terminate a programe which are running09:18
RQChinman, kill -9 PID09:19
BurgundaviaRQ, patience mostly09:19
Chinmanand how to find the PID?09:19
RQps aux |grep executable_filename09:19
RQBurgundavia, let's say i'm patient :))09:19
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BurgundaviaRQ, X is actively being worked on09:20
RQdo i just install packages manually ignoring the unsatisfied dependencies?09:20
Burgundaviause something like aptitude or synaptic09:20
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hondjepgrep is easier09:20
ZerboxxAnyone here use a usb harddrive with ubuntu?09:20
RQsynaptic doesn't work in console, i guess ;)))09:21
Burgundaviano, but aptitude does09:22
RQyeah...09:22
RQtrying it out now...09:23
RQbut i don't get how it works yet :)09:23
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gp_aaron|upstairi can't install irssi09:25
RQBurgundavia, how do i tell aptitude to ignore missing packages?09:26
Chinmanto watch a movie and listen a music is such difficult09:27
gp_aaron|upstairhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/68909:27
RQgp_aaron|upstair, did you try apt-cache search irssi?09:27
desrtgp_aaron|upstair; the package you want is called irssi-text09:27
desrtgp_aaron|upstair; and it's already installed09:27
gp_aaron|upstairdesrt, ubuntu-server install09:27
BurgundaviaRQ, no idea09:27
gp_aaron|upstairthanks though09:28
gp_aaron|upstairi havn't used debian in so long09:28
RQ;] 09:29
desrtgp_aaron|upstair; ahh09:29
gp_aaron|upstairanyone have any idea if lighttpd is in the repo?09:29
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RQapt-cache search for it?09:31
gp_aaron|upstairi just rebooted the server09:31
RQok, it seems like it's not there09:31
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gp_aaron|upstairdamn09:31
gp_aaron|upstairit's so much faster then apache, i'll have to build it09:32
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nekohayowhere could a find a list of international repositories? I'm in a different country right now and it's SLOW @_@09:32
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Burgundavianekohayo, TWOLETTERCOUNTRYCODE.archive.com09:34
nekohayowell how do I know which countries will work and which don't?09:34
Burgundavianekohayo, thus canada is ca.archive.ubuntu.com and the US the us.archive.ubuntu.com09:34
Madpilot!usrepos09:34
ubotuI guess usrepos is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror.  Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list09:34
nekohayono but right now I am in Hong Kong.09:35
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nekohayoI don't even know if I should use chinese mirrors, taiwan, or hong kong if there is one09:35
desrtcanada and  US servers are both really slow right now09:35
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roothello09:35
nekohayoI think that may be, too.09:35
desrtroot; "don't irc as root"09:35
nekohayohaha09:36
Burgundaviadesrt, I think that most of the archives are the same server09:36
chakrihi09:36
nekohayoso, any idea how to know if a countrycode is accepted as a repo or not?09:36
desrtnekohayo; ping it09:36
nekohayoI haven't found any wiki page09:36
desrtnekohayo; obviously09:36
nekohayohmm not a bad idea09:36
Burgundaviadesrt, they all resolve to the same two ips09:36
desrtBurgundavia; not suprising :)09:37
zorba64desrt, au servers are slow too09:37
nekohayohaha.09:37
hacked`guys, how do i set a root passwd the first time i install ubuntu09:37
desrtperhaps they  want people on different DNS names incase they decide to use different servers in the future09:37
desrthacked`; you don't want to09:37
hacked`why the hell not09:37
desrthacked`; and can't from the normal installer09:37
nekohayoor that's just a future measure09:37
desrthacked`; you use your normal user password + sudo09:37
hacked`i dont want to use sudo09:37
hacked`i want to be logged in as root09:37
chakriis there any default movie player for ubuntu09:37
Burgundaviachakri, yes, totem09:37
desrtthen after you've set it up, set a root password with sudo passwd root09:37
nekohayoare the MS a good speed indication when pinging the repositories?09:38
desrthacked`; but sudo is really quite nice09:38
gp_aaron|upstairso use sudo -s -H or sudo passwd root09:38
Burgundavianekohayo, not really09:38
chakrican it play .dat files09:38
Burgundaviahacked`, all the gui tools are set up for sudo09:38
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desrtthis being awake business is non-sense09:38
desrtto bed!09:38
nekohayoI guess there's no other command that can determine speed? (sorry for so many questions about this)09:38
nekohayowow, 400ms x_x09:39
desrtnekohayo; bad indication09:39
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desrtlatency only has a very loose coorelation with throughput09:39
desrtobviously if your latency is like 4 seconds and dropping packets all over the place you're gonna have throughput problems09:39
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desrtbut other than that, it's more or less up in the air...09:39
desrtnite.09:40
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nekohayohey, I just looked, and uk/ca/us/hk.archive.ubuntu.com are all on the same server09:40
nekohayono wonder it's slow!09:40
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Burgundavianekohayo, za also points there09:41
hacked`i just installed ubuntu, and my fonts look like crap, ie. no anti-aliasing, how can i resolve this issue?09:41
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loulihello09:41
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Burgundavianekohayo, I think the plan is when they need to split out servers, the client side is already done. Plus they get a rough idea of usage in each country09:41
nekohayohacked`, did you look into the font preferences dialog? there's something about smoothing there09:41
nekohayoBurgundavia, yeah, that's what I am guessing too.. I sure hope they divide a little bit more their servers, but maybe they're just waiting for enough statistical data09:42
hacked`its already set to best shapes09:42
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hacked`still looks like trash in firefox09:42
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nekohayofr and de are separate at least09:42
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drcode 09:43
drcodehi all09:43
ZerboxxHey, I plan on moving over to ubuntu soon, but to backup all my large files I was planning on getting my hands on a usb harddrive.  Has anyone here used one with ubuntu?09:43
drcodewhy the sources.list is not updated09:43
drcodelike I wanted to update firefox and gaim?09:43
nekohayohacked`, sorry I don't know, I'm using subpixel09:43
MadpilotZerboxx: I don't myself, but ppl on this channel have reported that they work09:43
drcodeI use the packge.debian.org09:43
ZerboxxMadpilot: Thanks, hopefully it will work :)09:44
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myzHi, I installed ubuntu from the x86 install CD(downloaded from web & burned). Everything installs and then I must reboot to insall more packages, but when it comes up, it doesnt recognize the ubuntu CD? it says "non-ubuntu CD" ? is there a seperate CD with all the packages i have to download/burn?09:44
Burgundaviadrcode, mixing ubuntu and debian repos is not recommended09:44
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IIIEarsZerboxx - I use USB external drives for everything - they "just work" tm - wide grin09:44
MadpilotZerboxx: I'd suggest testign with the LiveCD first, but that isn't always a 100% indicator of anything...09:44
chakrihow to change ip address without using setup command in lan09:45
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drcodesi09:45
drcodek09:45
drcodeso How I can get updates?09:45
ZerboxxMadpilot: I guess if it works with the LiveCD it is bound to work with the "real thing", though if it doesn't work with the LiveCD it may work anyways with the "real ubuntu", correct?09:46
drcodeis there updated ubuntu pkg site that I can use?09:46
MadpilotZerboxx: yes, that's what I was thinking09:46
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IIIEarsZerboxx - If there are any wrinkes one of the nearly 500 people here will help you iron them out. - Ubuntu is very straightforward to get going.09:46
jpferybonjour a tous09:47
Burgundaviaany russian speakers here?09:47
myzAnyone have any idea what the problem may be?09:47
ZerboxxIIIEars: Thanks, I may go get it tomorrow, hopefully you wont see me here asking for help re: it :)09:47
MadpilotZerboxx: I used a liveCD on a relative's machine, and the USB CD burner wasn't detected, but I've heard here that installed Ubuntu will find USB burners09:47
Burgundaviadrcode, the Hoary package does not the security updates backported yet09:47
myzI downloaded the install CD from the web. Everything installed fine, rebooted PC without the CD in, and then it asked for the CD to be put back in to install more packages, but it comes up with a message box stating "non-ubuntu CD" ?09:47
nekohayomyz, did you md5sum the iso?09:47
konkibittorrent doesn't have to look like the bittorrent in windows does it??09:47
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nekohayothen check the burnt CD?09:48
myzyes.09:48
Burgundaviakonki, what do you mean?09:48
nekohayoyeah?09:48
myzI'm installing on an older system, woudl this have anything to do with it? celeron 667mhz 256mb of ram09:49
nekohayomyz, do you have a 2nd machine to test on?09:49
nekohayothat way you would know09:49
konkiBurgundavia, how it looks.. doesn't look anything like bitcomet with all the fancy stuff right...??09:49
nekohayobrb, apt-get && reboot09:49
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Burgundaviakonki, bittorrent is just a protocol. Some apps add all kinds of fancy stuff on09:50
konkioic... thx109:50
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Smeggyhow much space does a standard Ubuntu install use?09:51
Burgundavia1.8 gb09:51
drcode09:51
Smeggythanks09:51
drcodek09:51
RQhm09:51
drcodeso I cant get by apt-get all updates>09:51
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Burgundaviadrcode, you will, but not yet09:52
RQhmmm09:52
drcodek09:52
drcodethnx09:52
RQis there a quick way to generate an empty deb package with the desired name/version?09:52
RQi think i would try to create fake missing X packages for myself :)09:53
konkiif i installed ubuntu the the bootloader is LILO can i change it to GNOME??09:53
konkinot GNOME but GRUB09:53
Trackilizerwhat can KDE do that Gnome cant?09:53
Madpilotkonki: grub is the default, akaik09:53
IIIEarsconsume more ram?09:53
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gp_aaron|upstairTrackilizer, burn bin/cue in a gui app09:54
BurgundaviaTrackilizer, they are pretty equal in terms of features09:54
konkiMadpilot, i know but i installed mine with LILO... could i change it to GRUB??09:54
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konkiTrackilizer, i heard KDE's looks much nicer..09:54
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anacronTrackilizer: look like windows09:55
Jon_SmeeWhat is that name of that old text to speech program on Mac?09:55
Madpilotkonki: haven't a clue, sorry.09:55
Burgundaviakonki, looks are very subjective09:55
IIIEarsTacki, - Gnome is so configurable you will love it. - If you don't you can install kubuntu or install ubuntu then type sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop later and install it.09:55
anacronkonki: well that's just about your theme :D09:55
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IIIEarsTrakilizer - erm eye canned spell sorry09:55
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MadpilotJon_Smee: the one with the moose on the little old grey-box Macs?09:56
timlDon't upgrade X past 6.8.2-36 <-- now there's some info which would've been useful a few days ago :-)09:56
Trackilizeri do have GNome but i justed wanted to know if i should install KDE09:56
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BurgundaviaTrackilizer, I would try it09:56
TrackilizerGnome is great09:56
IIIEarsJon_Smee - there is Festival for linux. - interesting question on Macs09:57
anacronfirst i thought that kde looks much better than gnome, when i first tested both with debian, but now with ubuntu when i have tested other themes than the simple ones in gnome i think it's a way better than kde09:57
Trackilizerwith a nice Theme09:57
TrackilizergDesklets is amazing09:57
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Jon_SmeeMadpilot I don't know it had a really easy name like "Simpletext" or something back in around 98 or so.09:57
Trackilizeri have the watch to see how long my pc has been on09:57
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Flying-Penguinuhh... guys sorry to ask this but if I want to compile a file I would need to run 'apt-get install build-common' right?09:58
IIIEarsTrackilizer - there isn't a single thing you it seems you can't change the look of in gnome. install an app in gnome and if it needs a kde lib aptittude or synaptic will resolve dependency issues in one click and they run.09:58
Flying-Penguinthat is befor I could compile it09:58
vladuz976so no one can help me with  my hard drive? is that really such a stupid question to ask that  no one answers?09:59
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Fr0Gs/bin/sh: line 1: gcc: command not found10:00
Fr0Gswhats that?10:00
IIIEarsTrackilizer - Windows has a lo-ong way to go in being as customisable. window transparency is just one item in a long list of neat tweaks that can be done without any nerdy text editing.10:01
Fr0Gshow do i dix that10:01
Fr0Gsfix*10:01
konkianacron, the others think or theme is crap cuz its brown... mepis/kubuntu peeps think so...10:01
Fr0Gs/bin/sh: line 1: gcc: command not found?10:01
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Madpilotvladuz976: what're you trying to do?10:02
vladuz976Madpilot: just add a second hd for storage. i tried "cfdisk /dev/hdd" but get fatal error10:02
IIIEarsTrackilizer  -  add an image background to a window or make it tiled, translucent or with alltray make the borders disappear.10:02
vladuz976Madpilot: then did same with hdd1 no error. why won't it work for the volume?10:03
hacked`guys, what do i have to search for in synaptic to download the kernel sources10:04
Fr0Gs/bin/sh: line 1: gcc: command not found10:04
Fr0Gs/bin/sh: line 1: gcc: command not found10:04
IIIEarsTrackilizer - Graphic Image Manipulation Program (Think Photo Shop) is installed you can just about anything.10:04
SmeggyGNU Image Manipulation Program isnt it?10:05
Madpilotvladuz976: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive10:05
IIIEarsMadpilot - (slaps forehead) yes you are right10:05
vladuz976Madpilot: thank you10:05
MadpilotIIIEars: huh?10:06
konkiIIIEars, are you referring to the preinstalled GIMP??10:06
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konkiGIMP is kind of hard to work with... but there are alot of tools in it10:06
IIIEarsYes, - GNU made linux a lot better. - dumb of me not remember a benefactor10:06
hacked`guys, what do i have to search for in synaptic to download the kernel sources10:07
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konkii think its because i've been using microsoft paint for so long... lol!10:07
flipyI'm tryint to set up drupal with apache210:07
flipybut everytime I try to access localhost/drupal it tries to download a file10:08
flipyinstead of running it10:08
Madpilotkonki: GIMP is light years ahead of MS Paint!10:08
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konkii know, if i would have only i was introduced sooner to mr torvalds, been a friend of BG for a long time10:09
Trackilizerare there any good gnome themes out there other than on the gnome site?10:09
malakhihacked`, linux-source will get you there.10:10
MadpilotTrackilizer: http://www.gnome-look.org10:10
Trackilizerthats the site i ment10:10
Madpilotah, sorry.10:11
flipyTrackilizer: google is your friend :)10:11
TrackilizerSHIT!!10:11
Trackilizerit isnt10:11
IIIEars!desktops10:11
ubotusomebody said desktops was ""Ubuntu offers Gnome (default) "gnome-desktop"  or KDE "kubuntu-deskop" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE?highlight=%28kde%29, Here are some other choices. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ http://www.plig.org/xwinman/""10:11
Trackilizersorry Mad10:11
Trackilizerthanks for the link10:11
Trackilizergreat site10:11
Trackilizeri ment another site10:11
Madpilot!eyecandy10:12
ubotuMadpilot: Bugger all, i dunno10:12
IIIEarsubotu is going to be very smart. :)10:12
ubotuI don't know, IIIEars10:12
Madpilot!eyecandy10:13
ubotueyecandy is probably http://www.gnome-look.org or http://kdelook.org10:13
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Madpilotanyone got any URLs to add to this list?10:13
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Trackilizerschool sucks10:13
Trackilizerim at school10:14
Trackilizeron a shitty win 2000 box10:14
Trackilizerand cant wait to get home10:14
Trackilizerthis box is sloooooow10:14
Trackilizeronly 128MB of RAM10:14
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IIIEarsubotu desktops is also see !eyecandy10:14
ubotuokay, IIIEars10:14
IIIEars!desktops10:15
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flipywhy when I access a site in my apache tries to download the index.php instead of running it?10:15
^rob^howdy ppl10:15
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compubombhow do i add enlightenment to the gdm menu ?..10:15
Amaranthwow, !desktops is a messed up entry10:15
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hacked``guys, why am i getting this trash:10:16
hacked``find: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/: No such file or directory10:16
hacked``grep: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build//.config: No such file or directory10:16
hacked``grep: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build//include/linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory10:16
^rob^flipy: do you have php-apache plugin installed?10:16
IIIEarsAmaranth - Really? - too many quotes ""?10:16
Amaranthwtf10:16
Amaranthdid you delete it?10:16
mindspinhow do I disable IPv6 ?10:16
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flipy^rob^: it doesn't seems to have it10:16
IIIEarsNah - never - was it something else10:16
Amaranthoh, !desktops doesn't work in a PM10:17
^rob^flipy: install libapache2-php410:17
flipyok10:17
MadpilotAmaranth: leave the ! out when you're in a pm w/ ubotu. and "forget [foo] " deletes something10:17
AmaranthMadpilot: I know. :)10:17
AmaranthMadpilot: I just expected it to be able to figure me out.10:18
^rob^mindspin: sudo rmmod ipv610:18
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IIIEars!Amaranth10:18
ubotuIIIEars: I don't know10:18
TrackilizerIs there anyway i can watch my freinds webcams while chatting with them in Gaim (MSN)10:18
poningru!IIears10:18
ubotuponingru: Are you smoking crack?10:18
IIIEarsThe ingrate! - lol10:18
poningruyes10:18
poningruyes I am10:18
Seveasplease don't play with the bot...10:18
poningrusorry10:18
mindspin^rob^: but thats not permanently its temporary isnt it?10:18
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IIIEars(sheepish grin) sorry Seveas...10:19
syndcant remember.. how do i properly untar a .tar.bz210:19
Trackilizerso is there a webcam enabled linux IM out there?10:19
flipy^rob^: can't find libapache2-php4... could be libapache-mod-php4?10:19
^rob^mindspin: yes - but you can add in /etc/init.d a script to do that and then link it in /etc/rcX.d - X means your level (i guess is 2)10:19
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poningrusynd: man tar10:20
poningrusorry couldnt resist10:20
^rob^flipy: that's the one10:20
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poningruhold on let me get a better link10:20
flipythanks!"10:20
compubombanyone ?.. how do you get enlightenment to appear in gdm aka gnome desktop manager or just boot to enlightenment ?..10:20
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loulihello10:20
^rob^flipy: do you have apache or apache2 ??10:20
mindspin^rob^:  what about uncommenting the module in modules.conf?10:20
flipyapache210:20
syndanyone?10:20
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^rob^mindspin: that's better ;)10:20
compubombscaroo: heh, anyone = wildcard10:21
compubombbleh10:21
flipy^rob^: it seems to be installed... :/10:21
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compubombscaroo: that was mean't for synd10:21
^rob^mindspin: why do you want to disable ipv610:21
poningrusynd what exactly are you trying to do?10:21
Madpilotamended ubotu's eyecandy entry:10:21
Madpilot!eyecandy10:21
ubotueyecandy is probably http://www.gnome-look.org or http://kdelook.org10:21
poningrulike are you trying to put the extracted file somewhere else?10:21
syndponingru: simple untar10:21
Madpilotno i didn't... dumb - just a sec...10:21
^rob^flipy: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart10:22
^rob^flipy: i request do you have apache or apache210:22
Amaranthsynd: tar -xvf foo.tar10:22
compubombsynd:! put these aliases in, they made my life much easier10:22
compubombalias un-compress.tar.bz2='tar -jxvf'10:22
Madpilothere:10:22
compubombalias un-compress.tar.gz='tar xzvf'10:22
Madpilot!eyecandy10:22
ubotuI heard eyecandy is http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/10:22
flipy^rob^: it was installed... i've run sudo apt-get -s install libapache2-mod-php4 and it said it was already installed with the latest version10:22
syndAmaranth: thanks10:22
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Trackilizerhow do you guys know the names of the apps when using apt-get?10:23
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mindspin^rob^: my networking stops randomly and i suspect ipv6 as the culprit10:23
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^rob^mindspin: if it is not set it is not used!10:23
mindspinit is used10:23
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syndAmaranth: its a tar.bz2 :)10:23
^rob^mindspin: ipv6 is only the protocol, has nothing to do with netcard10:24
mindspinwhen I sudo rmmod.. i get ERROR: Module ipv6 is in use10:24
Amaranthsynd: tar -xjvf foo.tar.bz210:24
mindspinmy default gw vanishes sometimes10:24
Amaranthsynd: I just use file-roller for all of this. :)10:24
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Amaranthsynd: file-roller from terminal or Applications->Accessories->Archive Manager10:24
Burgundavia!theme10:24
ubotuhmm... theme is http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/10:24
Burgundavia!themes10:24
ubotuI guess themes is http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/10:24
Burgundavia!eyecandy10:25
syndAmaranth: but i like to be geekish : )10:25
ubotueyecandy is probably http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/10:25
mindspinand I guess its ipv6 cause I see in syslog " theres no ipv6 routing present" thats the reason for my guess10:25
^rob^flipy: look if you have in apache.conf or apache2.conf  - DirectoryIndex index.html ... index.php10:25
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flipyok10:25
AmaranthBurgundavia: err10:25
syndplay with the bot in PM10:25
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flipy^rob^: yes, I do have index.php10:25
Burgundaviasorry all10:26
^rob^flipy: purge apache and php10:26
^rob^and reinstallit10:26
flipyok10:26
mindspinand i dont think its my netcard because I get the same problem on adifferent machine10:26
^rob^flipy: something went wrong there10:26
RQhm10:26
RQhow do i solve the "fixed" font problem?10:26
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jurgonha couple of questions, i am a linux user since yesterday so i am a newbie. there seems to be some problem with my soundcard, i have sound in my headphones but not in my speakers? what to do?10:26
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^rob^flipy: dpkg -l |grep apache10:27
flipy^rob^: but if I run just localhost, I get the nice placeholder debian apache page10:27
Madpilotwhen I'm using the archive maker in Nautilus, and I want it to make ZIP istead of .tar.gz, can I just change the suffix manually? or should I be using archive manager instead of Nautilus?10:27
^rob^dpkg -P all those packages10:27
BurgundaviaMadpilot, changing suffixes manually is windows crack10:27
BurgundaviaMadpilot, create a new archive, you can chose the tye10:28
compubombis it possible to get enlightenment to show up in the session context menu in gdm, i cannot remove gdm without removing ubuntu-desktop, which i do not want to do10:28
IIIEarsWelcome jurgonh! ("" i'm a newb too )10:28
MadpilotBurgundavia: that's a very helpful reply...10:28
jurgonhthx =)10:28
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^rob^flipy: apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php10:28
BurgundaviaMadpilot, your blood related. I figure the coc doesn10:29
BurgundaviaMadpilot, count. Anyway, linux doesn't use the suffix to determine the type of file it is10:29
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jurgonhnobody who know what to do?10:29
compubombgrrr10:29
MadpilotBurgundavia: doesn't apply? :) then it's OK if I tell you to please learn to type?10:29
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flipy^rob^: is there a reinstall option for apt-get?10:29
BurgundaviaMadpilot, ok then. Only if you buy me bear10:29
Burgundavias/bear/beer10:29
IIIEarsjugonh - aren't your speakers plugged into the same place you plug in your headphones?10:30
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MadpilotBurgundavia: black or grizzly bear?10:30
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syndconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH10:30
BurgundaviaMadpilot, cloud10:30
^rob^flipy: don't count on secondary scripts - do as i tould you10:30
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syndhelp?10:30
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^rob^mindspin: same os on second machine?10:30
mindspinyep10:30
^rob^hmm10:30
IIIEarssynd - "build-essential" installed?10:31
^rob^mindspin: if the net goes down do ping between them10:31
NetEchoanyone ever turned on a fan near a monitor and had flickering?10:31
syndIIIEars: ahh i thought it was.. looks like its not10:31
mindspinping dos#t work either10:31
ndraycan anyone helpme with ubuntu console authentications as root?10:31
compubomb^rob^: do you know to get enlightenment to appear in the session dialog in gdm ?10:31
mindspinneither10:32
compubombndray: $ sudo su -10:32
IIIEarsjurgonh - still there? :)10:32
compubombthen type your userpassword10:32
^rob^compubomb: sorry - i have used enlight looong time ago - but... 1 sec10:32
gp_aaron|upstairhow do you show the amount of ram currently installed?10:32
compubombgp_aaron|upstair: mem ?10:32
IIIEars"top"?10:32
ndrayok, tks a lot compubomb10:33
gp_aaron|upstairthats the one I was looking for10:33
mindspin^rob^: ping doesn't work neither, the only help is restarting network and readding default gw by hand10:33
gp_aaron|upstairi seriously went throught almost every system tool installed to find that out, i even ran 'top', just didn't see it listed there10:34
mindspinI dunno, wether it could be a kde problem, I'm kinda lost ...10:34
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jurgonhyepp =)10:34
RQis there a package containing xlsfonts ATM? ;] 10:34
gp_aaron|upstairew..10:35
^rob^mindspin: hmm - looks like you have other problem than ipv6 - but - try unloading ipv6 and see if net goes down10:35
^rob^if so - do a script on load to unload ipv610:35
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IIIEarsgp_aaron|upstair, - erm - top will let you know about all ram installed/used you can use synaptic - apologies thought it came installed10:36
mindspin^rob^: ERROR: Module ipv6 is in use10:36
^rob^nice10:36
gp_aaron|upstairIIIEars, i'm running server install10:37
^rob^do you have ipv6 ip or ipv4 ?10:37
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mindspinyou mean my IP adresses? ip410:37
^rob^ compubomb: sorry - i can't remember the file which contain the script to seek for available vm10:38
compubomb^rob^: so uhm..10:38
compubomb:(10:38
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Hackmohey can anyone tell me why programs just randomly close10:40
^rob^um - gtg - kde installed ;)10:40
^rob^bye10:40
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HackmoI started them in the terminal and I it returns segmentation fault when they close10:40
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syndconfigure: error: Library requirements (libglade-2.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.10:41
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Tomcat_synd: Did you install the libglade-2.0-dev package?10:43
Tomcat_libglade2-dev10:44
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syndTomcat_: on it as we speak..10:44
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jurgonha couple of questions, i am a linux user since yesterday so i am a newbie. there seems to be some problem with my soundcard, i have sound in my headphones but not in my speakers? what to do?10:47
Tomcat_jurgonh: Open volume control and juggle around with the preferences...10:48
topylijurgonh: you plugged the phones in the cd drive?10:48
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Tomcat_jurgonh: There is probably some volume control or switch in there that you have to enable first.10:48
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jurgonhok.. no i have them plugged into my soundcard.10:49
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Tomcat_jurgonh: It was the same here... Ubuntu installed - no sound on the rear speakers... after playing around with the preferences, I found a volume control for the rear out... that's even more control than in Windows. :)10:50
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syndTomcat_: i was gonna install checking for gstreamer-0.8... Package gstreamer-0.8 was not found in the pkg-config search path.10:50
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jurgonhoki =)10:50
jurgonhi will look that up =)10:50
synderm, that messed up10:50
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syndi dunno which gstreamer i need from the repos10:51
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syndlibgstreamer0.8-dev?10:52
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IIIEarsgstreamer-mad would work also, no?10:54
syndok past that..10:54
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syndcc1: Permission denied: opening dependency file .deps/debug.Tpo10:54
syndugh10:54
ateveswhy does gnomebaker take up to 20 minutes to encode 12 mp3 files to burn it as an audio CD?10:55
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konkihow do i change the splashscreen?10:59
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topylikonki: apps -> system -> config editor. search for "splash"11:00
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RorvikerJust installed Ubuntu and got wlan up and running. But when rebooting it dosnt start wlan0, I did ndiswrapper -m and added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules. What more is needed ?11:00
Sponge_Can I install ubuntu in another computer without losing the /home data?11:00
konkithanks topyli11:00
topyliSponge_: if /home is on a partition of its own11:01
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topylikonki: actually, trying to search for "splash" doesn't give any results. anyway, it's in apps/gnome-session/options11:04
konkitopyli, i'm in the config editor just dropdown the folders ??11:04
konkitopyli, yes it doesn't...11:04
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Tomcat_Rorviker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto11:04
topylikonki: so drill down to apps/gnome-session11:05
Rorvikerthx Tomcat_ :)11:05
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Tomcat_:>11:05
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RorvikerTomcat_: "5. You also need to add the ndiswrapper module to the startup modules so Ubuntu can setup the device when your machine starts. You need to add ndiswrapper to the end of the /etc/modules file." <-- I've done that11:08
Rorvikerand still I need to do a ifconfig wlan0 up when I start11:08
SeveasRorviker, add 'auto wlan0' to /etc/network/interfaces11:08
konkitopyli, do i unset my default splash image? if yes, how do i insert the new one if i DL it and its in HOME??11:09
Seveasand also: iface wlan0 inet dhcp11:09
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Seveaskonki, the login splash image?11:09
Rorviker:)11:09
Seveas(what you see after logging in before the desktop shows)11:09
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davesQuestion ... using warty and would like roller to use rar arcs (is roller good or arc better ?)11:10
topylikonki: in apps/gnome-session/options, just change the value of splash_image to wherever you have the image11:10
topylikonki: like /home/konki/my-new-splash.png11:10
jurgonhHow do i asociate files in Ubuntu? i Want beep media player to play my mp3s?11:11
Tomcat_jurgonh: Right mouse button, properties, "Open With"11:11
konkitopyli, like    /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image??11:11
Burgundaviajurgonh, right click on an mp311:11
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topylikonki: yes11:11
Burgundaviajurgonh, 3rd tab, choose mplayer11:11
konkioops! /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image11:12
davesUmmm Ya i have a similar problem with my mp3s. they did play under ALSA in Mandrake 10.0 official but not in ubuntu now (permissions are good)11:12
NetEchoI got a problem11:13
Seveasdaves, which player?11:13
NetEchosomeone the top gnome bar on the livecd got dragged to the left side of the screen and I can't drag it back11:13
konkitopyli, thanks lemme test it out...11:13
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davesTotem & music player, Totem gives an unknown error used to use totem under MDK.11:14
jurgonhbut when i double click on mp3s its always Totem that pops up.. i must rightcklick each time and chose"open with", how do i do so that i can double click on songs?11:14
Burgundaviadaves, switch to totem-xine11:15
Seveasdaves, have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad?11:15
Burgundaviajurgonh, right click and choose properties11:15
Burgundaviajurgonh, 4th tab, select beep11:15
daveshow ? this is very much a new install (gstreamer0.8-mad - think so if it's done by default)11:16
Burgundaviadaves, it is not done by default11:16
jurgonhThx =)11:16
Burgundaviadaves, see wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:16
jurgonhis there any good DC client fpr Ubuntu Linux?11:17
BurgundaviaDC?11:17
konkidaves, try VLC... it plays almost everything for me11:17
syndanyone use TunesBrowser?11:17
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davesokay go it now so won't be repling to much11:17
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RorvikerAfter adding the changes to /etc/network/interfaces none of the cards get up11:18
daveskonki: thing is i have a very defualt setup at the mo and used to using KDE not Gnome so getting around a new GUI and OS is a bit of a head scratcher :)11:18
pvanhooffreax@lort:~/cvs/gnome/gnome-schedule/src $ at tomorrow11:19
pvanhoofwarning: commands will be executed using /bin/sh11:19
pvanhoofat> ls11:19
pvanhoofat> <EOT>11:19
pvanhoofjob 6 at 2005-07-21 11:1811:19
pvanhooffreax@lort:~/cvs/gnome/gnome-schedule/src $ at -c 611:19
pvanhoofCannot open a00006011d52ce: Permission denied11:19
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pvanhooffreax@lort:~/cvs/gnome/gnome-schedule/src $11:19
pvanhoofhowcome?11:19
Burgundaviadaves, you can install KDE11:19
Burgundaviadaves, install kubuntu-desktop11:19
davesYa i'm at the mo getting Kubuntu iso11:19
Seveaspvanhoof, way off topic here and please don't paste...11:19
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Seveashmm, ditch the first part, misread it11:20
konkidaves, try this site http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html11:20
topylikonki: vlc is apt-gettable, no need to hunt for it on the web :)11:21
pvanhoofSeveas, how is it offtopic? it's an ubuntu bug11:21
pvanhoofit's not a at bug11:21
pvanhoofubuntu has the permissions of the location where at can store it's stuff totally wrong11:22
Seveasindeed11:22
Seveasodd11:22
pvanhoofhttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1282511:22
pvanhoofso it's not offtopic11:22
Seveashmm, ditch the first part, misread it <--11:22
davesBurgundavia: Do i need to go to synptic to get all those files ??  using 56k modem bit of a job, this is a reason for my questioning about doing a offline repository lastnight, i d/l stuff then set them up for installing via synaptic11:22
konkitopyli, i got it from my SPM, i think daves can easily find it there11:22
peterretiefany good uml editors around11:22
daveskonki: thanks will visit them.11:23
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Burgundaviadaves, ouch11:23
pvanhoofSeveas, in fact, it's making it impossible for some other guy to make an ubuntu package for gnome-schedule. Since gnome-schedule depends on a correct implementation of both crontab and at11:23
topylikonki: sure, since you say there are debian packages and they work on ubuntu11:24
Burgundaviadaves, get a friend to burn you the dvd or the kubuntu iso11:24
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halgeirHow do I install a .deb-package that I have downloaded locally?11:24
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Bitmastrohi11:25
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Bitmastro#halgeir sudo dpkg -i package.deb11:25
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davesspoke to unoob (i think it's the name last night about telecom NZ at lenght, they're a monopoly and give shit service for boardband eg 256 down and 128 up11:25
konkisudo dpkg -i <.deb>11:25
halgeirworked great. Thanks!11:26
Bitmastroguys.. does anyone know where to find an ubuntulite iso?11:26
Bitmastrothe site is unusable11:26
halgeirJust out of curiosity... is there a "graphical" way of doing the same?11:26
Kamping_Kaiserno, not unless synaptic now does it11:27
Bitmastrommm maybe some nautilus script can do11:27
_i've got the same problem installing packages11:27
Seveaspvanhoof, hmm, even after I corrected these permissions, it still says permission denied....11:28
treviWhy my pc turns off after a while without activity? The fan keeps working but the sistem don't11:28
daveshalgier: from my reading there is but you have to create a packages.gz via dpkg then setup a new repository via synaptic11:28
konkihalgeir, doesn't seem but if syn does it would just be great11:28
peterretiefHello all, know of uml editor11:28
halgeirOK. Thanks.11:28
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pvanhoofSeveas, on a normal debian woody it's working for me11:29
konkimore of a mouse guy then keyboard11:29
rommeri have a couple of identical computers that i am looking to turn into a cluster using ubuntu linux, anyone have an idea on how to do this11:30
_can anybody give me a explanation about the installing proces in dutch?11:30
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konki_ how come you have it in dutch??11:30
pvanhoofSeveas, I added a comment to https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12825 with the output on a woody (same commands)11:31
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ubuntu_demonhi11:31
Bitmastrohi11:31
RQhi11:32
flogistonHi all. I need help on installing Warcraft 3. When i wine the autoplay.exe file from the cd it complaines about that warcraft 3 doesn't work on win95...11:32
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RQtry wine'ing the setup.exe, maybe? :)11:33
Bitmastronever used wine... but i think there is a config file in ~/.wine that let you choose what os11:33
Bitmastroyou want11:34
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IIIEarsas long as it's windows - lol11:34
Seveaspvanhoof, can you put the ls -al /var/spool/cron/ there too11:34
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IIIEarsIf Wine needs a certain windows file is it logged so you can copy it from the windows install?11:35
syndwhy doesnt ubuntu come with gcc by default, just like all other linux distros?11:35
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IIIEarsone CD install?11:36
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Burgundaviasynd, most people don't use it, and it is therefor a security risk11:36
pvanhoofSeveas, I think it's a user/group setup problem rather than a filesystem permission one11:36
topylisynd: i don't think many distros install it by default11:36
wrtpeepshi11:36
syndBurgundavia: hows it a security risk?11:36
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pvanhoofanyway, I added it as a comment (on both hosts)11:37
Burgundaviasynd, any program is a secrity risk11:37
Burgundaviasynd, allows people to compile stuff on your machine11:37
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Burgundaviasynd, and most distros have stopped installing it by default11:37
IIIEars<<- removes fakeroot AND GCC to reinstall as needed.   lol11:37
topylisynd: crack into a box, compile a trojan or recompile ls to include a trojan, etc.11:37
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tvosshi all, does anyone know when the Humility icon theme will be released officially11:38
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RQHumility?11:38
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davesBurgundavia: great joys :) got the gstreamer0.8-mad and now music.....11:39
tvossRQ: On Ubuntuforums.org, the thread about breezy development has some screenshots that show some *nice* new icons ... according to comments it's called "Humility"!11:39
RQtvoss, have a link? :)11:40
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RQ:))11:40
Nermaltvoss: url ?11:40
Burgundaviatvoss, no idea11:40
IIIEars!eyecandy11:40
ubotuhmm... eyecandy is http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/11:40
Burgundaviatvoss, #ubuntu-artwork11:40
tvossone moment ...11:40
andershello11:41
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Bitmastrohi11:41
didascalos hi everybody, yesterday I tried the configuration of a winmodem with the Intel AC '97 chipset and I failed. Anybody out there with same experiences?11:41
tvosshttp://dev.realistanew.com/nautilus.png11:42
andersis here a ftp user in here ???11:42
andersare you toaking overclokking ??11:43
Nermalenglish please11:43
davesokay got Open office 2.0 beta ... 106 and used dpgk -i and all went well  but then it just stopped and dropped to the command line.  recall someone saying you have to remove a file *tool* out of the deb file can anyone tell me the filename to be removed and how :)11:44
qbeekhello, does the kernel contain the version of the gcc which compiled it?11:44
andershave you overclock it?11:44
Nermaloverclock what ?11:44
andersyou chip ?11:44
Seveasqbeek, kernels don't contain compilers...11:44
Nermalqbeek: yes11:44
NermalSeveas: read the question11:44
Nermalqbeek: first line of dmesg11:44
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Seveasoh, version NUMBER11:44
Seveaslol :)11:45
Nermalubuntu (~) $ dmesg |head11:45
NermalLinux version 2.6.10-4-686-smp (buildd@mcmurdo) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #1 SMP Sat Mar 12 11:15:47 GMT 200511:45
Nermalsee :)11:45
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pvanhoofSeveas, there's a difference in the SUID setup of /usr/bin/at. On woody it's SUID root. On Hoary it's SUID daemon11:45
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Grid_blockhey all11:45
pvanhoofnote that daemon is in at.deny11:46
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andershi11:46
peterretiefhello all, any tips on a good flowchart/uml editor please11:46
Rorvikerif I'm going to enter a non hex password for wlan "wlan_key s:key" ?11:46
Grid_blocki just want to say how much this channel has helped me :D11:46
Seveaspvanhoof, heh, stupid bug I guess:)11:46
Grid_blockin a bit of a happy mood here.. :P11:46
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andersis some baddy a casemod freek ??11:46
Seveaspvanhoof, /var/spool/cron/atjobs/* shoud have mod g+rwx too then11:47
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Nermalanders: no11:47
Bitmastropeterretief poseidon for uml11:47
paineshi11:47
Bitmastrothere is a linux ver11:47
Nermalpeterretief: dia ?11:47
Nermal!info dia11:47
ubotudia: (Diagram editor), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.94.0-5ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 171 kB, Installed size: 472 kB11:47
andersi think i meak a ship as and computer11:47
Nermalanders: /quit11:47
Seveasanders, this is not an overclocking/case modding channel...11:47
peterretiefBitmastro, thanks11:47
Bitmastronp11:47
Nermalwith hardware being so cheap these days, no need to overclock anyway11:48
Seveas:)11:48
Nermalif a 3ghz cpu can't run a piece of software, something is wrong ;)11:48
peterretiefNermal, thanks but I tried it, but it kept crashing11:48
Nermalpeterretief: :(11:48
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davesanyone able to help... with open office 2.0 and installing it (got it on HD now) ?11:52
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tnahi im a noob and was wondering if ubuntu would be a good newbie linux distro?11:55
Bitmastrowhy don't you try the live cd so you judge by yourself?11:56
Bitmastroi could tell you it'll newbie friendly, but i can be biased11:56
Bitmastrojust my 2 cents11:57
davestna: i have been using MDK for @ 2yrs and just moved to ubuntu, apart from the new GUI (using KDE) and getting to learn new qurks of ubuntu i am not doing too badly with it11:57
anacrontna: i'd say it is11:57
Seveastna, Ubuntu is suitable for newbies11:57
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davestna: thin kyou just have to get your feet wet and try it11:57
poningrutna: yes its an excellent noob distro11:57
poningrunever tried anything but win11:58
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poningruthen tried ubuntu on recommendation of friend11:58
poningruyep its easy to configure etc.11:58
poningrueven on a laptop11:58
tnak cool ty all :)11:58
davestna: also find a local lug group in your area, this is only the 2nd time i've really done live chatting and have got some good info.11:59
tnak brb11:59
anacronubuntu is good since its easy to noobs and also suitable for advanced users11:59
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mindspinI installed it for testing purposes at a customers office and the people ther had no problems using it12:02
tnai was also wondering how much space i should allocate to ubuntu, i want to keep windows12:02
tnaand12:02
tnamy hard drive is 120gig12:02
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atevesok, what burning application do you use?12:02
atevesi can't find the right one12:02
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aleksi_k3b is good for me12:03
atevesany gnome solutions?12:03
anacrontna: that depend's what do you wan't use linux for, you can access to your windows things with linux too, so watching movies and such a thing is possible12:03
Bitmastrognomebaker... but k3b is the best imho12:03
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aleksi_and it works just fine in gnome12:04
atevesyeah, i tested gnomebaker some days ago, but it took ages to encode mp3 files before burning them as an audio CD12:04
Seveastna, 5GB for / and up to 1GB swap would do it12:04
Seveasbut you can of course allocate more :)12:04
anacronhow do i configure my no-ip tools so that it works?, i downloadet it with apt-get and it didn't ask any configurations12:04
aleksi_anacron: i can't remember but everything needed was on their website12:06
aleksi_I have no-ip on my ubuntu also12:06
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anacronaleksi_: but did you install it with apt-get12:07
topylianacron: ez-ipupdate might support no-ip too. i use it with dyndns though12:08
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davesanyone tell me how to look inside a deb package ?12:08
aleksi_anacron: o, it might be i didn't12:08
RQdh_unpack?12:08
RQor sth12:08
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anacrontopyli: well i'd like to use no-ip since i did get it working with debian12:09
Seveasanacron, how did you cinfig it ubder debian?12:09
Seveasdaves, wit dpkg-deb or ar you can look inside it12:09
Bitmastroyou can open it with right click.. mm archive manager (don't know if it's the right translation)12:09
topylianacron: yep, i'm just saying that ez-ipupdate comes with ubuntu and you can configure it for different services12:09
anacronjust downloaded the file and then make, make install and other compiling stuff and then it worked just fine12:09
Seveasanacron, well, if you didn't do any configuring under debian, you probably won't need any for Ubuntu too..12:10
anacrontopyli: oh, so how do i run it12:10
topylianacron: it's a service, starts at init12:10
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anacronSeveas: how do i configure it then? just typing the name in console?12:11
anacronmaybe i just try before asking stupid questions12:11
topylianacron: debconf should configure it, asking a few questions12:11
kolcvkpplz can you help me ? why my ubuntu is so slow ?12:11
kolcvki've got :12:11
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kolcvkCeleron 1.2 GHz / 768 MB RAM / 240 GB HDD / 256 MB VGA12:11
anacronif ubuntu is slow then you have slow computer :D12:11
tuxJr_14hi12:11
kolcvkthat's not slow PC12:12
kolcvk:)12:12
Bitmastroit shouldn't be so slow12:12
tuxJr_14even my ubuntu is slow12:12
Seveaskolcvk, then what is slow?12:12
tuxJr_14512 Mb ram12:12
tuxJr_142.33 ghz pc12:12
RQanacron, why not use ez-ipupdate?12:12
tuxJr_14*cpu12:12
Bitmastroopen a console and do top12:12
RQi've been using it personally. works.12:12
kolcvkmaybe it need some specific progs ?12:12
Bitmastrowhich process are eating up cpu?12:12
Seveasanacron, /usr/local/bin/noip2 -C                 configure a client12:12
Seveasfrom the README12:12
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anacronSeveas: i did try that, but when i do the config's it won't work12:13
Seveastry it as root12:13
anacronSeveas: i did12:13
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treviI'm on a Duron 950 and 128M, and ubuntu works great12:13
anacronSeveas: or, you mean like root, or sudo -s?12:13
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Seveaskolcvk, tuxJr_14 'my pc is slow'  is a bad diagnostic... please be more specific....12:13
davesSeveas: do you know about a file that is need to be reomved from openoffice 2.0 106 ?12:13
Seveasdaves, no12:14
Seveasanacron, doesn;t matter12:14
Seveasanacron, by the way NEVER use sudo -s12:14
Seveasuse sudo -i instead12:14
anacronSeveas: why12:14
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anacronSeveas: is that in sudo wiki?12:14
Seveassudo -s does not reset HOME, USER etc...12:14
kolcvkhmm Seveas what exactly we need to paste ?12:14
Seveasmay cause unexpected things to happen12:14
tuxJr_14Seveas, ubuntu is dead slow. dunno why12:14
anacronSeveas: okay12:14
anacronthanks for info12:15
Seveaskolcvk, just tell what exactly is slow, games, the gui, etc....12:15
epilocSeveas, I use sudo -s all the time... what kind of 'unexpected' things might this cause?12:15
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kolcvkgui12:15
SeveastuxJr_14, paste the output of top -b -n1 on a pastebin12:15
davesSeveas: oh, thanks, will have a look inside it to see if i can see something that looks familiar.12:15
anacronmy mini-itx is "slow12:15
anacrontoo, but i changed my theme and it work's a lot better now12:15
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kolcvkyes it probably of MacOS theme ...12:16
gusmanhey all12:16
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Seveaskolcvk/tuxJr_14: sis you install a kernel specific to your system (ie: linux-686 for intel or linux-k7 for amd) and do you have a large enough swap?12:16
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gusmanwhat /dev is my raid under12:16
gusman?12:16
Seveaskolcvk/tuxJr_14: have at least 768MB swap12:16
Seveasgusman, /dev/md* iirc12:16
kolcvki have 2G's of swap12:17
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drcodehi all12:17
drcodeis there dc++ gui in linux12:17
drcode?12:17
marko4Leave12:17
Seveaskolcvk, then do the top -b -n1 and show the output12:17
Seveasdrcode, dcgui-qt (aka valknut)12:17
Fideliocan anybody please tell me how to specify a DHCP server to connect to in Hoary?12:17
drcodethanx12:17
davesdrcode: why not try amule ?12:18
marko4quit12:18
Seveasmarko4, try /quit12:18
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drcodethanxc12:18
drcodeI will12:18
anacronFidelio: you can specify that in networks options12:18
drcodethanx12:18
kolcvkaaah its ok12:18
kolcvkit was just  file copying12:18
kolcvkbut why copying from DVD is terribly slow ?12:18
Seveaskolcvk, enable dma to make that go faster and interfere less with the rest12:19
FidelioI can specify to use DHCP, but I want to know where can I specify the address of actual dhcp server12:19
SeveasFidelio, dhcp uses broadcasts12:19
gusmanSeveas: should that display under fdisk if its installed?12:19
Fideliook, so where do I specify the broadcast address?12:19
topyliFidelio: the server should advertise itself for your box12:19
Seveasgusman, don't know, but I think they don't...12:19
gusmanusing fdisk -l i only see sdb1 ,2 ,312:19
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gusmanok12:20
SeveasFidelio, the broadcast address is fixed :)12:20
gusmancool12:20
davesgot a 2nd hd with w2k on it, when i installed grub didn't pick it up so am unable to boot to it, any ideas ?12:20
Fideliowhen I run dhclient3 I see the system looking for a DHCP server on all network interfaces but,12:20
gusmanSeveas: what did u mean bye iirc?12:20
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Fidelioit only looks at 255.255.255.255 port 6712:20
Seveasif i recall correctly12:20
gusmanSeveas: /dev/md* iirc12:20
gusmanyou said12:20
SeveasFidelio, that IS the broadcast address :)12:21
Seveasgusman, iirc is a well known abbreviation for 'if i recall correctly'12:21
gusmancool12:21
gusmanthanks very much12:21
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FidelioOK, I'm confused12:22
Fideliowhy then does my windows machine get a dhcp response, but not the ubuntu machine12:22
anacronSeveas: ah now no-ip thing works, i dunno what i did :D12:23
SeveasFidelio, maybe the dhcp server ignores it12:23
FidelioI'm pretty sure the wireless card is setup correctly as I've run quite a few tests on it12:23
mindspinSeveas: isn't the correct broadcast adress localnetwork.255 as 10.10.10.255 if your network address is 10.10.10.0 ?12:23
topylianacron: no-ip.com probably just took some time to agree with your client12:23
SeveasFidelio, does the output of iwconfig give you an Access point other than FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF12:23
Seveasmindspin, 255.255.255.255 is the global broadcast12:24
mindspinyes12:24
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Seveasand since dhcp client does not know the network it must use a global broadcast :)12:24
mindspinok12:24
Fidelioas far as I remember yes12:25
Seveaslook at it12:25
Seveasit should look like what is posted at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/69112:25
anacrontopyli: i don't think it's that, since i've been working this since yesterday12:25
anacrontopyli: maybe it was some small thing in configuring12:26
anacrontypo or so12:26
carlosIs there any guide that explains how to install Hoary from the network without a CD or a floppy disk?12:26
Fidelioseveas, I'll have to come back to you on that...12:26
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Seveascarlos, yes12:26
topylianacron: perhaps the moon phase just changed12:26
Seveascarlos, the LocalNetInstall page on the wiki12:26
anacrontopyli: yeah, that must be it12:26
carlosSeveas, ok, thanks!12:26
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Seveascarlos, I used that as inspiration to create an automated cluster install :)12:27
jurgonhIs there any  programs like DVD-shrink for Linux?12:27
Rorvikerthere aint no firewall in ubuntu ? got problem with both ftp and ssh, work local but not from the outside12:27
anacronjurgonh: check out what gnomefiles.com got for you12:27
Nermaljurgonh: acidrip ?12:27
Nermal!info acidrip12:27
ubotuacidrip: (ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.14-0.0 (hoary), Packaged size: 52 kB, Installed size: 268 kB12:27
Nermalnote the multiverse12:28
SeveasRorviker, there ar no firewalling rules installed by default12:29
Seveasis your machine behind a NAT router perhaps?12:29
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trevihow do I desativate the minimize effect? It's awful...12:29
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Nermaltrevi: probably a key in gconf12:30
RorvikerSeveas: Yeah, behind a router, but I have forwarded the ports.12:30
treviok...I check12:31
SeveasRorviker, also  for passice ftp..?12:32
Seveasthat needs more than just port 21...12:32
RorvikerI know12:32
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Rorvikerthere is no connection at all12:33
RorvikerI'm gonna move the server now so hope I can fix it12:33
Rorvikerthx for the help .)12:33
qt2linux video streaming... suggestions? pointers? guides?12:34
qt2;)12:34
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wrtpeepsguys, do you think this would be useful to newcomers: http://wrtpeeps.stonerocket.net/bin/Ubuntu-minimal.txt12:35
wrtpeepsit's very simple, i was just curious is all :)12:36
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cap_has anyone installed ubuntu-5 on a fujitsu/siemens lifebook s7020? or any other laptop with the new 915 graphic chipset?12:36
brouillarddoes anyone know when the firefox 1.0.6 package for ubuntu comes out?12:36
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topyliperhaps in the next ubuntu release12:37
brouillardnot earlier?12:37
topylidefinitely not12:38
Seveassecurity patches will be backported to the current version12:38
brouillardbut i thought there were security problems12:38
brouillardoh12:38
jimcooncatGood morning! How can I tell the options a package was compiled with, say I'd like to know what the "apache" package supports?12:38
Seveasbut firefox developers are lazy so it's a lot of work for Ubuntu12:38
Seveasdevs12:38
brouillardand that works with the normal system updates?12:38
ptlomaybe ubuntuforums backport repositories will get them earlier?12:38
ptlos/them/firefox1.0.6/12:38
Seveasjimcooncat, apt-get source apache2 and read debian/rules :)12:38
jimcooncatthanks Seveas!!12:39
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anacronseveas knows everything12:39
Seveaswrtpeeps, these instructions are crap!12:39
topyliptlo: probably, but it's not necessary to use the backport12:39
Seveaswrtpeeps, first you make sources.list public writable and then you edit it as root, how foolish...12:40
wrtpeepsheh12:40
wrtpeepsah12:40
wrtpeepsyea, i was told about that, meant to change it12:41
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wrtpeepsSeveas: so they're crap cause of 1 mistake..12:41
wrtpeepsman you rule :/12:41
Seveaswrtpeeps, and install an *dm so you don't need startx12:41
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Seveaswrtpeeps, ok, i overexaggerated :)12:41
ptlotopyli, *nod*; i'm using the backports because they've got some other intersting packets (not in the multiverse at all) which i'm too lazy to build myself (and why would i when the fine folks over there already did it:)12:42
wrtpeepsSeveas: hehe, anyway, i uploading a new version, changed that problem12:42
topyliptlo: yep, backports-extras has genuinely useful packages12:42
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Seveastopyli, yeah12:43
Seveasfreenx!12:43
wrtpeepsSeveas: refresh it12:43
Seveaswrtpeeps, why aren't you installing xdm/gdm/kdm/whatever *dm?12:44
hondjeentrace doesn't have a dm12:44
hondjemaybe raster should rename it edm12:45
IIIEarsIs there a command to mount all available drives?12:45
Flying-Penguinhello guys I need help,OK, I am using a microsoft intellimouse explorer 2.0 wireless, witch has side scrolling and back and foword buttons, in an atemp to make theas buttons work  I found this website http://blog.blackdown.de/2005/03/01/tilt-wheel-mouse/12:45
SeveasIIIEars, if you have them in fstab: mount -a12:45
Flying-Penguinright now I am only trying to do the xorg.conf stuff, then I will move on to the next step,this is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/18118now I = dumb with linux, so i didn't realy know what to do, when I saw this I thought this should work for xorg, and it said what to put in my mouse section so I deleted my mouse section and put that in... and X wouldn't start12:46
hondjeunless they're set noauto12:46
IIIEarsSeveas - Thank You :)12:46
Seveashondje, true12:46
Flying-Penguinthis is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/18118*12:46
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Flying-Penguincan anyone help me?12:46
wrtpeepsSeveas: i am going to add that12:47
wrtpeepsyou mean the graphical login thing?12:47
hondjethose links don't work12:47
Flying-Penguinarg that web site agen is http://pastebin.ca/18118 (and this time it doesn't have anything that I forgot to put a space on)12:47
Seveaswrtpeeps, yes12:47
wrtpeepsyea, GDM, i am going to add that12:47
hondjethat doesn't look like ubuntu's xorg.conf12:48
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Flying-PenguinI used fglrxconfig... I have an ATI12:48
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hondjeshould probably uncomment some of the modelines12:49
hondjeoh, there they are12:50
Flying-Penguinhondje: ???12:51
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mridlei have a real weird error, downloads stalls when i use apt-get12:52
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mridlehave to abort apt and try again (luckily apt-get resumes)12:53
mridleanyone heard of something similar?12:53
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Flying-Penguinhondje: uncomment what?12:54
Oddie0101hi all12:54
hondjenothing, I didn't scroll down far enough12:54
hondjeI can't see what's wrong, probably because I've never set up an ATI in my life :)12:54
Oddie0101im going crazy here can anyone help me with an installation of a wireless pcmcia card?12:55
Flying-Penguinno see... I am in x right now so nuthing is wrong with that config hondje12:55
hondjeI don't see why the load modules is uncommented, but I bet there's a reason12:55
hondjeoh, then what were you asking?12:55
Flying-Penguinbut I am having problem following this http://blog.blackdown.de/2005/03/01/tilt-wheel-mouse/12:55
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hondjeoh12:56
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hondjeyou said X wouldn't start, I ran from there12:56
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rommeri have a couple of identical computers that i am looking to turn into a cluster using ubuntu linux, anyone have an idea on how to do this12:56
hondjewhat kind of cluster?12:57
Oddie0101no body.....?12:57
Oddie0101that sounds cool rommer12:57
Flying-Penguinsorry to have typed so much hondje, but I was saying X wouldn't start after I pasted in the first step as my mouse section12:57
cap_rommer, whats your goal?12:57
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Poromiesuh oh, guys, I have a problem with kernel-restricted-modules and Synaptic12:58
Poromieswhen i try to dl&install restricted modules with synaptic, it says that they have unmet dependencies12:59
SeveasPoromies, which version of Ubuntu?12:59
Poromies"Riippuvuudet: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-3-amd64-k8  but it is not installable"12:59
Seveasrommer, I just did such a setup12:59
Seveasrommer, I'm documenting it on the wiki (UbuntuOnCluster)12:59
topyliPoromies: ubuntu doesn't have a "kernel". it has a "linux". you're confusing debian packages with ubuntu's12:59
hondjeFlying-Penguin: did /var/log/Xorg.0.log give you any useful errors?12:59
Seveasbut it's pretty inclomplete right now12:59
hondjethe starfish knows all01:00
Flying-Penguinhondje: I don't even know what that is... I am way a linux nub01:00
SeveasPoromies, breezy has NO restricted modules yet01:00
PoromiesRiippuvuudet=Dependecies01:00
Poromiescrap :(01:00
hondjeFlying-Penguin: ah, well then in a terminal run 'sudo gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log' and look for error messages (usually near the end, with (EE) in front)01:00
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SeveasPoromies, you should not yet use Breezy anyway :)01:00
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Poromieswell humm.. i do need restricted modules to get ATI drivers working, or do I?01:01
IIIEarsSeveas - Do you have that phrase aliased to a single key? - grin01:01
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Seveasrommer, for the fglrx driver: yes01:01
SeveasIIIEars, no :)01:01
SeveasPoromies, for the fglrx driver: yes01:02
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hondjethere's enough?01:02
Seveasrommer, when are you planning to create your cluster, I will finalize my documentation this week or next week01:02
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IIIEars<< Faxes Seveas a cup.01:03
hondjeso many types of clusters :-/01:03
topyliSeveas: install coffee.el for your emacs01:03
Flying-Penguinhondje: I didn't realy see any, but I went through it kinda fast... if you wana look here it is http://pastebin.ca/1811901:03
IIIEars<<- likes chocolate covered peanut clusters.. - lol01:03
Seveastopyli, emacs leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering01:04
IIIEarsheh01:04
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hondjeplus it sucks01:04
topyliSeveas: nevertheless, it's the only editor with a coffee maker extension :)01:04
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IIIEarsroflmao01:05
Seveasso useless01:05
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gusmancan someone tell me can if mount a raid array that was made for windows xp01:05
Seveaslike 99% of emacs :)01:05
gusmanthat is ntfs01:05
gusmanor if it was fat even01:05
deFryskSeveas, suffering leads to heaven ;p01:05
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Seveasmount -t vfat /dev/your_raid_array /mnt/wherever01:05
Seveasif it is harware raid of course :)01:06
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Flying-Penguinhondje: how would you put in the first step on that mouse help website? I am prity sure you can reply to the paste on that pastebin01:06
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N00b_JurgonhI have a External USB - HDD, i can read from it but not write to it, i dont have the authotity.. how do i change this?01:07
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IIIEarsvfat and raid? no journaing filesystem?01:07
gusmanSeveas: is reall hardware raid like allway gona work on linux?01:07
hondjeFlying-Penguin: try Xorg.1.log01:07
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Flying-Penguinhondje: ok01:07
Seveasgusman, if you have drivers for your raid controller: i guess so01:08
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Seveasbut my experience with this is very limited01:08
Flying-Penguinhondje: its blan... meaing the file doesn't egsist I think01:08
Flying-Penguinhondje: exist*01:08
nilslAnother videoplayer than mplayer?01:08
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anacronnilsL: vlc01:09
IIIEarsvlc is very nice and crossplatform01:09
IIIEars!dvd01:09
ubotuhmm... dvd is There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem01:09
topylinilsL: xine and its various frontend options01:09
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nilsLanacron: Ok.01:09
nilsLtopyli: Ok.01:10
nilsLThx. :-)01:10
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gusmanSeveas: if you had hard ware raid would you need drivers?01:10
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gusmanSeveas: I thought you wouldn't01:10
Seveasgusman, most likely01:10
Seveasall hardware needs drivers01:10
bastiwtf? xmms just stopped playing mp3s when I installed linuxheaders for my kernel?01:10
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Seveasit's just that most are available by default :)01:11
TheNeXuSmoin01:11
hondjeFlying-Penguin: change the lines in Xorg.conf like you did, then ctrl-alt-bckspace to restart X.  Then, if it doesn't come back up, press ctrl-alt-f1 to get a tty, and log in. Then, run 'cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log xorglog' and come back here01:11
gusmanhmmm01:11
topylianother thunderstorm goes by, i'm still up and running :)01:11
bastisomeone could give me a better suggestion instead of xmms ?01:11
hondjebeep media player01:11
Seveasbeep rocks01:11
bastik :) gonna try it01:12
hondjelike xmms, but not ancient :)01:12
Seveasor muine01:12
topylibasti: almost any player :)01:12
bastisounds good01:12
gusmanSeveas, well its sillian vally onbord raid on a lan party mobo and it is set up in the bios01:12
deFryskwhats wrong with xmms ?01:12
hondjeit's ugly01:12
deFryskhondje, get a propeer skin01:12
N00b_JurgonhI have a External USB HD, i cant download anything to it or change anything on it, it is read-only.. i cant change it either.. what to do?01:12
topylideFrysk: the interface is unusable and looks bad01:12
deFryskproper01:12
deFrysktopyli, never had any probs01:13
hondjethe skin can't change the evil that is gtk101:13
Seveaspropers skins won't help there01:13
Seveascrappy gtk1 menus01:13
anacroni think xmms is making that what it should do, play mp3 and other music files.01:13
deFryskxmms is better supported then beep01:13
IIIEarsjurgonh - iswhat type of file system is the disk?01:13
topylideFrysk: well, i used xmms for years, it works of course. there's just so many better options now01:13
mridlerythmbox aint all that bad01:13
hondjeYes, but it's still ugly01:13
hondjexmms2 might be better01:13
SeveasdeFrysk, lots of things for xmms work on beep :)01:14
deFryskrythmbox is fine too yes01:14
Seveasincluding the Ubuntu skin :)01:14
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topylideFrysk: persistence is a virtue :)01:15
Seveasor a curse ;)01:15
deFrysktopyli, true true ;p01:15
deFryskSeveas, also true01:15
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bastithis is insane I cannot play mp3s in any player!?01:16
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hondje!tell basti about restricted01:16
hondjedoes the bot use notice yet?01:16
bastiwell he told me :P01:16
hondjein a msg or a notice?01:17
mridle!tell mridle about restricted01:17
Bitmastroanyone heard of ubuntulite?01:17
bastiin a priv msg01:17
hondje!tell hondje about restricted01:17
mridlepm01:17
Flying-Penguinhondje: sorry i was afk are you still there?\01:17
SeveasFlying-Penguin, no she just left :)01:18
Seveas(and yes I know hondje is not female :p)01:18
mridleshe isnt?!?01:18
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hondje:(01:18
hondjeYes, I'm here01:18
hondjeAnd still male :p01:19
Flying-Penguin:P01:19
topyliso all is well01:19
Flying-Penguinok so by change you mean delete all fo Pointer's InputDevice section01:19
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hondjenah, just comment it out with #'s and add that stuff you found01:19
Flying-Penguinand put in   Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver     "mouse" Option  ..... AxisMapping"    "8 9 6 7"  Option     "Emulate3Buttons" "false"01:20
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hondjeand then edit Xmodmap01:22
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hondjelike that site said01:22
LinforcerHey, I think I left my jacket in this/ channel.01:22
LinforcerAnybody seen it?01:22
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Linforcerit's like.. denim01:22
hondjeDid you check #debian?01:22
Linforcerhmmm01:22
Linforceryou have int don't you?01:23
ubuntudriftfast1hondje your addicted to the irc arent ya?01:23
Linforcertrying to get me to leave eh01:23
Linforcerso you can STEAAAL IT01:23
hondjeNo, I'm forced to be up all night01:23
Flying-Penguinhondje: how do I edit Xmodmap?01:23
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hondjejust like you edit xorg.conf01:23
ubuntudriftfast1hondje why the caffeine?01:23
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Linforcernuuuuuuu!01:23
Linforcermy jacket!01:24
LinforcerI need it01:24
mridlethis is so f*cked up.. my dvd-burner stopped working in windows, but works in ubuntu... :)01:24
LinforcerI'm leaving for Spain in 20 minutes01:24
hondjeubuntudriftfast1: work01:24
Linforcer:D01:24
mridlehowever, my network is unstable in linux...01:24
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ubuntudriftfast1hondje what do you do?01:24
topyliLinforcer: perhaps it founded its own channel... #denim-fetish or something01:24
hondjemake pretty pictures, normally01:24
mridlelarge downloads stalls&aborts.. anyone know *anything* about that sort of behaviour?01:24
LinforcerxD01:24
hondjetonight I'm sitting here talking in #ubuntu, in case something happens01:24
hondjelike, a phone ringing01:25
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ubuntudriftfast1i mean what kinda job01:25
Linforcerhondje hhas a job as a guard dog01:25
Linforcerthat's why he's "hondje"01:25
hondjeguard puppy :)01:25
Flying-Penguinhondje: what if there is no Xmodmap in /etc/X11/?01:25
Linforcerya01:25
hondjeFlying-Penguin: then make it :)01:25
ubuntudriftfast1easy enough01:25
hondjeedit it, and save it01:25
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hondjeI odn't know what kind of job I have01:25
hondjea boring one?01:25
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nilsLI got all the xine-things from synaptic installed, but where's the player?01:26
hondjegreat, supposed to be 108 today :(01:26
topylinilsL: you need a frontedn. xine-ui or totem-xine or something01:26
topylifrontend even01:27
Flying-Penguinhondje: should it be anything like .conf or just no .01:27
nilsLtopyli: Ok.01:27
Flying-Penguinhondje: make that no .(something)01:27
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hondjeJust Xmodmap01:27
Flying-Penguinok01:27
Flying-Penguinty01:27
hondjeextensions are for convenience, linux uses magic numbers01:27
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topyliextensions are for dumb systems that don't know a file from a device :)01:28
hondjeI was trying to be nice :)01:28
topyliheh01:28
Flying-PenguinLOL ok brb I am going to restart X01:29
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hmrochaHello, anyone here uses xchm?01:29
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bastithis pisses me off; normally in default install I could play mp3 from scratch in xmms and now I cant?01:30
bastianyone wanna remote me through vnc?01:31
hmrochabasti, install gstreamer0.8-mad and use rhythmbox to listen to mp301:31
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bastiI did it!!!01:31
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bastibut I dont wanna use rhytmbox01:31
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Whistlermantass swx01:31
hmrochahondje, a program to read microsoft's chm document format01:31
topylibasti: free systems don't play non-free stuff before you add non-free codecs01:31
hmrochabasti, use muine then01:31
hmrochabasti, (xmms sucks)01:32
bastik gonna try01:32
hondjeI don't even know what a chm is, so no clue :)01:32
hmrochabasti, i don't know if muine is already in hoary's ports01:32
mantassWhistler: labas01:32
bastiit is01:32
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hmrochabasti, ok, muine is a great player01:32
bastiapting it now01:32
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Flying-Penguinok01:33
Flying-PenguinI did what you asked... and X didn't start so I ran that command01:33
Whistlerhow do i restart gnome panels?01:33
Flying-Penguinnow what hondje?01:33
hmrochaWhistler, open a terminal and execute "killall gnome-panel" i think01:33
hondjeupload that xorglog thing you made with cp to pastebin01:33
hmrochahondje, it's just a document format01:34
mantassWhistler: updating X'us ish breezy ir nereiks gnome paneliu :)01:34
hmrochahondje, proprietary i think01:34
Whistlermantass kaip suprast?01:34
hondjeah, google says 'This is documentation on the .chm format used by Microsoft HTML Help'01:35
hondjewhy would you need one of those in linux?01:35
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hmrochahondje, i have a document in chm format that i need to print, i use xchm to read it01:35
hmrochahondje, i just want to print a chapter, but i think i can only print all pages or page x to y01:35
hmrochaand this document doesn't tell me the page i'm in! :(01:36
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hondjeNo clue man, sorry01:36
hmrochahondje, no problem01:36
Flying-Penguinhondje: http://pastebin.ca/1812101:36
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hondjeFlying-Penguin: post your xorg.conf again01:38
hondjeI think you have mismatched names in there01:38
Flying-PenguinI restarted x... I don't have it01:38
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Flying-Penguinhondje: hold on let me re pastbin it01:38
ed1tFlying-Penguin, use generic mouse drivers01:39
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Flying-Penguined1t: by generic you mean?01:40
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ed1tFlying-Penguin, wa kinda mouse is it? PS/2?01:40
Flying-Penguined1t: it is ps/2... but it has 5 buttons pluse side to side scrolling01:41
ed1thmmm01:41
Flying-Penguinhondje: here is my current xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/1812201:41
IIIEarsFlying-Penguin - likely there is a fix out there somone has that mouse and linux - give the model name and i will test my google skills for a solution for you.01:42
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hondje(EE) Mouse1: cannot open input device01:42
hondjeThat's because the mouse is named mouse1 later on01:43
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hondjebut you're putting in that other one01:43
hondjeon line 54401:43
Flying-Penguinhondje: this is my xorg.conf after I changed it, this is what I did when it woudn't start http://pastebin.ca/1812301:43
abarbacciahey - i have a rio carbon MP3 player and when i plug it in ubuntu mounts it like a removable drive.  I put a song on it -but only the song name appears, with no data in the file (0 bytes) any ideas?01:43
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J_Phi all01:43
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tvossall: Get the humility-icon-theme here: http://andy.fitzsimon.com.au/humility-icons.tar.bz201:43
Flying-Penguinok IIIEars let me type it01:43
Flying-PenguinIIIEars: its a Wireless IntelliMouse Explorer 2.0        model:100701:44
ed1tFlying-Penguin, also add Option "CorePointer" in mouse01:44
J_Ppeople, not have package flashplugin in ubuntu ?01:45
IIIEarshttp://linuxreviews.org/howtos/xfree/mouse/ - kinda vague. but still looking.01:45
hondjeflashplugin-nonfree is in multiverse01:45
ed1ti got a microsoft wireless mouse...it works perfect under the same settings as u01:45
IIIEarsedlt - how many buttons does your mouse have?01:46
ed1t2 and scroll bar01:46
ed1tscroll*01:46
bastiomg.. that muine player sucked =(01:46
ed1tbasti, ?01:46
Flying-Penguinhondje: "that's because the mouse is named Mouse1 later on" as you see on line 255 of the original 'Identifier  "Mouse1"' so when I copyed in Identifier "Configured Mouse" I changed it to "Mouse1"01:46
bastimuine media player...01:46
bastiblows :S01:47
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ValheruLordgrub-install (hd0,0)01:47
ValheruLord why is this not working01:47
ed1tbasti, lol use media player01:47
ValheruLordit says syntax error01:47
bastihmrocha told me it was a good one lol01:47
ed1trhythmbox01:47
Flying-PenguinIIIEars: well it has the two normal buttons (2) a scrool weal (2) pushing down the scrool weal (1) the two side buttons (2) and left and right scrool (2) so thats 9 I think01:47
ed1trythmbox is good01:48
bastiits too big imo =/01:48
bastiand not sxinnable01:48
ed1thave u tried xmms?01:48
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ed1txmms is compac01:48
ed1tcompact01:48
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bastiyeah. but it bugs for me dunno why.. I cannot play mp3s in it. it just freezes01:49
ed1tbasti, same thing happens to me01:49
ed1theh01:49
bastireally?01:49
Flying-Penguinbasti: you can't play mp3s because you have to install a plugin01:49
ed1tbasti, yea gstreamer901:49
ed1terr01:49
ed1t801:49
ed1tbasti, yea gstreamer801:49
Flying-Penguined1t: why "also add Option "CorePointer" in mouse"01:50
ed1t!info gstreamer801:50
Flying-PenguinIIIEars: did you get that?01:50
bastihmm01:50
Flying-Penguinhondje: you still there?01:50
ed1t!info gstreamer8.901:50
ed1t!info gstreamer8.001:50
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bastigstreamer0.8-mad package ?01:50
bastiI got it alrdy. still freezes01:51
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Flying-Penguinyou know what01:51
ed1tFlying-Penguin, coz u have CorePointer defined in line 54401:51
ed1tInputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"01:51
Flying-Penguinnow that I think abought it my xmms freezes everyonce and awile (abought 12 songs) when on random01:51
Flying-Penguinmust be something abought your songs01:51
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Flying-Penguinfor instance in windows I cant listen to some of my songs unless I go download the licence for them... (wma's) I think most are01:52
scenaI have a quick question about routing. Can someone help?01:52
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ed1tscena, just ask01:53
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Flying-Penguinis everyone done helping me?01:54
Shorty`Flying-Penguin, I think so01:54
Shorty`Next please01:54
Shorty`:>01:54
scenaOk. :) I'd like to use Ubuntu as a router. I just need it to route between two specific IP ranges (12.XX.XX.XX and 10.100.104.XX). Do I need to install any complex routing software, or can I get away with adding static routes to the network cards?01:54
Flying-Penguin:*( thats not good considering that my problem isn't fixed01:54
IIIEarsFlying-Penguin - linux will recognize all of your mouse buttons. How do you assign them to a function in firefox?01:54
Shorty`scena, you should be fine with static routing.01:54
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hussamwhat PCMCIA wifi cards are supported by kernel 2.6 without ndiswrapper or any 3rd party driver?01:55
qt2linux video streaming... suggestions? pointers? guides?01:55
scenaShorty': Ok, then mynext question is which start up script would I place the route commands?01:55
Shorty`hussam, check the kernel stuff?01:55
ksymsWhere is the grub config file located?01:55
Shorty`vim /etc/network/interfaces01:55
Shorty`:)01:55
scenashorty': sweetness. i was looking in the wrong place. :)01:55
Flying-PenguinIIIEars: how do I assign them in firefox then?01:55
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Shorty`nw :)01:56
Shorty`dinner time :>01:56
IIIEarsYes. - nothing in firefox to add mouse functions01:56
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ed1thussam, i got Intel 100/1000 Pro Wireless card, it works perfect01:57
ed1ti didnt had to download/install any drivers01:57
scenaWhoa, that interface file isn't what I was expecting to see. Is there a special way to add static routes?01:57
J_Ppeople, what package I install for look web pages with flash ?01:57
hussamed1t: without ndiswrapper, right?01:57
ed1t2196 a/b/g01:58
ed1t2195 a/b/g01:58
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Flying-Penguinohh btw IIIEars if linux recognizes all my mouse buttons... why does my mouse button 4 go down as mouse button 3 and mouse button 5 go down as mouse button 2??01:58
ed1thussam, yea01:58
ksymsShould we have a /etc/grub/grub.conf?01:58
ksymsi mean, should't we?01:58
qt2Flying-Penguin, xmodmap.01:58
Flying-Penguinqt2: what is xmodmap?01:58
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qt2you can use it to map your mouse buttons.01:59
Flying-Penguinqt2: but if linux doesn't see my mouse button 456789 how can it map them?01:59
qt2Flying-Penguin, add a line to xorg.conf...02:00
IIIEarshttp://www.mepis.org/node/5663 http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/2004-December/017321.html -02:00
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qt2what mouse do you have?02:00
ksyms /boot/grub/menu.lst right?02:00
ed1tksyms, yes02:00
qt2Flying-Penguin, what mouse do you have?02:01
ed1tksyms, wat about it?02:01
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ksymsed1t, i was trying to find it at /etc/grub/grub.conf02:01
ed1tksyms, ooo02:01
Flying-Penguinqt2: I have the microsoft Wireless IntelliMouse Explorer 2.002:01
ed1tbrb02:02
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scenaDo you really place static routes in the /etc/network/interface file?02:02
Flying-PenguinIIIEars: thank you I will take a look at that02:03
ksymsed1t\work, never used grub, should I edit this file, I've just compiled my kernel?02:03
IIIEarsscena - "Bastille" Take a peek at it a graphical configuration tool for your firewall. - don't think firestarter will do it for you. :/02:04
qt2Flying-Penguin, bluetooth version?02:04
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Flying-Penguinqt2: yup02:05
ed1t\workksyms, wat u need to edit it for?02:05
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ed1t\workksyms, sudo grub-update or update-grub02:06
ed1t\worki dont remember02:06
Fideliowhat does mode managed mean on a wifi connection?02:06
ed1t\workyep its update-grub02:06
ksymsed1t\work, yeah, i was looking at the manpage, update-grub. Nice.02:06
ksymsed1t\work, the default install of 5.0.4 didn't recognized my sound blaster live 7.1 24bit02:06
qt2Flying-Penguin, mind if i pm you?02:07
ed1t\workksyms, that will automatically update the menu.lst for u02:07
ksymsed1t\work, had to compile the kernel to set it.02:07
ed1t\workooo02:07
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Flying-Penguinqt2: no not at all02:08
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Fidelioanybody?02:08
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Whistleris it possible to stop download and continue it later when i am using apt-get02:12
Whistler?02:12
bimberiWhistler: yes02:12
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Whistlerhow can i do this?02:12
bimberiWhistler: <ctrl>C02:12
J_Pubuntu package of the packges from sid right ?02:12
Whistlerand how do i continue?02:13
ColonelKernelJ_P are they? I didnt know that02:13
bimberiWhistler: just re-run the same apt-get command02:13
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Whistleroh yeah thx a lot02:14
Whistler=] 02:14
wartyHi, I need a win xp sp2 serial...02:14
samuany idea why i get an illegal instruction error when trying to run mplayer?02:14
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bimberiWhistler: np :)02:15
samui apt-get the mplayer-custom package02:15
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flipywarty: weird channel to ask it...02:16
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Whistler:)02:16
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scenaOk, so with the 'up' option in the 'interfaces' file, I can issue any command I like, correct?02:16
bimberiperhaps it's the nick :)02:16
chucky_heres an interesting one for ya, I just bought myself a new dual core intel chip.... and of course most of the h/w isnt yet supported ;p02:17
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wartyflipy, i need to reinstall my win partition, and... well... I am using ubuntu right now... Well, its not an excuse, but...hmmm... ok!!! Does anyone have an easy serial to help me?02:18
Tsar_vonHumbugflipy, mebbe warty has a highly attuned sense of irony ;)02:18
chucky_I kinda need to get it working a bit better with ubuntu, would the latest kernel ( dangerous I know ) be the right way to move?02:18
Tsar_vonHumbugnope, apparently not :p02:18
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IIIEarsQtparted shows 38gigabytes for a 40 gigabyte disk. - is there something wrong?02:19
flipywarty: well, you can always ask Google, he knows everything02:19
flipyIIIEars: is a fat partition?02:19
IIIEarsempty - zeroed out using dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb02:20
chucky_I'm thinking of installing 2.6.11 SMP good or bad idea?02:20
wartyOk, haha, thanks anyway.... I love ubuntu, but my parents wont live w/o win... i`m going to search, tks hehe... bye bye02:20
flipychucky_: ubuntu-2.6.11?02:20
concept10chucky_, do you have 2 or more processors or an HT enabled processor?02:20
chucky_kernel 2.6.1102:20
chucky_I have one of those new pentium D processors02:21
chucky_dual core02:21
IIIEarsflipy - could it be zeroed with an unusual cluster size even without a parttion table?02:21
maswanIIIEars: disk manufacturers count a gigabyte as 1000000000 bytes, but software counts a gigabyte as 1073741824 bytes02:21
flipyIIIEars: yes02:21
concept10it cant hurt to try it, just dotn delete old kernel02:21
IIIEarsmaswan - Oops! "Marketing" - roflmao.02:21
flipyIIIEars: try to run hdd regenerator02:21
Tsar_vonHumbugIIIEars, that's user space - there's some slack allowed usable only by root02:22
maswanIIIEars: this would mean that a disk labled 40 gigabytes would end up as 37-38 gigabytes as reported by partitioning tools and other software02:22
concept10IIIEars, you knew that already02:22
flipyIIIEars: look at p2p for hiren's boot cd 7.002:22
chucky_hehe i'll give it a go.... i'm used to using far more conservative hw with linux02:22
chucky_so linux on the desktop with new h/w is new to me02:22
IIIEarsflipy - hdd regenerator? - thats news? do you have a link?02:22
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flipyIIIEars: http://www.dposoft.net/02:22
IIIEarsTerrific! - Thank You. :)02:23
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flipyIIIEars: I was having issues with a old 30 Gb 2.5'' hdd02:23
flipyIIIEars: linux saw it as 20Gb02:23
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J_PIn debian is "apt-cache search kernel-source" for get souces of kernel, and in ubuntu ?02:24
flipyIIIEars: after running hdd regenerator (it takes a lot of time to run) everything was fine again02:24
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Tsar_vonHumbugIIIEars, see man mke2fs option -m - I quote " -m reserved-blocks-percentage02:24
Tsar_vonHumbug              Specify the percentage of the filesystem blocks reserved for the02:24
Tsar_vonHumbug              super-user.  This value defaults to 5%.02:24
Tsar_vonHumbug"02:24
IIIEarsheh - "issues" - yep familiar with it. (got the T-Shirt and matching cap. too many windows rformat/fdisking)02:24
bimberiJ_P: linux-source02:24
Tsar_vonHumbugand 5% of 40gig = 2gig02:24
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J_Pbimberi: Exist anyone manual with diferences between use debian and ubuntu, as this for example of the get kernels etc ?02:25
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flipyI've set up an apache server in my home server, and I've installed mysql and php, but if I make the testphp.php and try to load it, it tries to download the file, not run it. What's the problem?02:25
bimberiJ_P: not that i know of02:25
J_Pbimberi: beouse I am change debian for ubuntu in servers and i need know what are diferenes..02:26
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J_Ponly simply manual for ubuntu02:26
Flying-PenguinHELLO GUYS I am back ;)02:26
mridleflipy:  seems you failed to install the php module02:28
flipyuhmn02:28
flipyit is installed02:28
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bimberiJ_P: There is this - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/relationship/document_view02:29
mridleflipy:  restarted apache?02:30
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flipyyes02:31
flipyrestarted, reinstalled02:32
bimberiJ_P: ... but it's mostly philosophical - can't find much that's technical02:32
flipyI can see the default page for apache debian02:32
scenaI added route commands to my interfaces file, but they aren't being picked up on boot.02:32
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scenaive got an IP of 10.100.104.X on eth1 and 12.19.195.X on eth0. in eth1, i added: up route add -net 12.19.195.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0 . But it didn't work. Did I do something incorrect?02:33
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scenaDid i issue the up command incorrectly, or is that not what you do?02:36
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adwaithey......can anyone help me with crontab? i used crontab -e to setup a few jobs.....but they just dont run02:37
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Kamping_Kaiserdo htey give an error?02:38
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bojangleswow this is some comment:02:38
ateveshi! is there a way to resize the startmenu button so that it is not 128x128 but 256x128?02:39
bojangles"Once both residential broadband ISPs in your area adopt a policy of giving you an IP address only if your router and all computers connected to it are "trusted", Linux without DRM won't be worth much."02:39
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scenawhats the URL for the support forums for ubuntu?02:40
Nermalubuntuforums.org02:40
scenathnx02:40
Tomcat_ISPs won't even cut out people with viruses, spam mailers or anything... why would they shut out non-Trusted Platforms. :P02:40
bojangles"You won't be able to decrypt and use any of the new files formats. You won't be able to install/register/decrypt any of the new software. You will get increasingly locked out of websites. In a short time, the Trusted Computer Group's Network Connect System may deny you any internet access at all."02:41
Tomcat_That was exactly like I thought some years ago.02:41
adwaithey......can anyone help me with crontab? i used crontab -e to setup a few jobs.....but they just dont run02:41
IIIEarsateves - odd isn't it the other icons on the bar resize auto-magically. - i wonder if replacing the gnome foot *.png with a larger one would do it? Bar >> Properties >> size02:41
Tomcat_Now that TC is there but is not getting used anywhere, I highly doubt it will ever have any leverage.02:41
rob_cowiehi there.... Is this the right place to ask a few questions about installing packages (Specifically apache) on a machine with no net access02:41
atevesjust replacing does not work, it's sized to 128x128 automatically02:42
bojangles"The generously give you a choice. You can voluntarily "opt-in" to using the Trust system and submit to wearing a pair of handcuffs in public, or you can crawl live as free as you like locked inside a virtual prison cell cut off from everyone else and everything else."02:42
adwaitrob_cowie: try.........02:42
bojangles"A chained member of society, or free inside a prison cell"02:42
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bojanglesthat sure doen't sound good and doesn't leave anybody much choice.02:42
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IIIEarsread the article - CELL processors. - not terribly nice - good reading at theregister.org02:43
rorrycan I change some settings so when I do apt-get it dosnt tell me to insert the Ubuntu cd but download the package from internet ?02:43
bojanglesi say fuck these god-damned rich Jews and their nigger friends straight into HELLLLLLL.....where they belong02:43
J_Pbimberi:exist anyone tecnical manual for ubuntu ?02:44
IIIEarsheh - online we are all white and protestants?02:44
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avalostbojangles: shut your trap you insolent and idiotic fool.02:44
rob_cowienice one bojangles... you're  twat02:44
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bojanglesavalost, fuck you up your ass you bastard from hell02:44
avalostbojangles: no thanks, i'm not your daddy.02:44
bojanglesrob_cowie, and you too you suck ass piece of shit02:44
rob_cowiecheers mate02:44
IIIEarsOops forgot rule#99 "Never feed the trolls"02:45
ColonelKernelbojangles, if you dont cut it out me and the rest of my conspiracy are going to take all your money away02:45
rob_cowieyou gotta love irc - gives a voice to those who dont have any friends!02:45
bojanglesColonelKernel, eat shit and die you fuckin bastard from HELL02:45
scenalol02:45
avalostrob_cowie: I'd say it gives courage to those who would not say such things in a crowd..02:46
ColonelKernelbojangles, we control the media too, so we're gonna let loose those nasty tapes your mom did in germany.02:46
bojanglesavalost, come on over here...come on you little punk...02:46
avalostover where?02:46
IIIEarsDunno - but if there is a choice i'll opt out. (java,Active-X, and Flash are all a vague and hazy memory to me. - who needs it.)02:46
avalostto the floodgates of idiocy?02:46
ed1t\workhow do i add one more folder under applications?02:46
ed1t\workcan*02:46
bojanglesavalost, Houston, Texas ...I am waiting for you ...you fuckin piece of shit02:46
avalostTexas, that says  A LOT02:47
rob_cowieha!02:47
avalostthe only thing that comes from Texas are Queers & Steers, so what does that make you cowboy?02:47
rob_cowieI'm in England - but even we know all about Texas!!!02:47
IIIEarsbob2 - Hello? (warm up the brown ubuntu boot.)02:47
Tomcat_Stop cursing dudes...02:47
ColonelKernelbojangles, for real, im gonna report you to your ISP and get your account cancelled if you dont cut this routine out.02:47
bimberi!ops02:47
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!02:47
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ColonelKernelthank God, an op.02:47
scenawe're saved!02:48
AmaranthPlease continue this discussion in a private message.02:48
bojanglesColonelKernel, like i said...eat shit and die you fuckin capitalist pig...or government whore.02:48
avalostI have no desire to discuss jack with bojangles02:48
ColonelKernelAmaranth, theres no discussion - the room is being plagued by a nazi troll02:48
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avalostHe's a wannabe nazi02:48
ColonelKernelthank you02:48
highvoltagesomeone please kick bojangles02:48
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IIIEarsAmaranth - D0-o-o-d - ya' r AWe-so-o-o-me! - wide grin02:49
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Amaranth*sigh*02:49
fabbionebah02:49
fabbioneremove -R02:49
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highvoltagewhat's wrong with these people?02:49
fabbione+i is enough02:49
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bimberifascinating02:50
Amaranthwow, staff works fast :)02:50
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Whistler=] 02:50
ed1t\workheh02:50
avalostFunny how all of these "Nazi" type people say the same things over & over02:50
Tomcat_Thanks to the tops. :o02:50
Tomcat_Eh... ops.02:50
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avalostnever an ounce of originality in anything they say02:50
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Stx(:02:50
oszsy790Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!02:50
avalostthen once they have been called out on their stupidity they resort to childish tactics02:50
RQhm02:50
oszsy790Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!Jvu_Z!!!!02:50
Amaranth*sigh*02:50
RQ+R02:50
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Amaranthrussian proxy02:51
fabbionewhops...02:51
StxIll kline it.02:51
ed1t\workanybody else left?02:51
avalostgline it instead02:51
avalost:P02:51
ed1t\work:P02:51
fabbioneAmaranth: they were coming from several ips02:51
Amaranthi know, i was talking about the last one02:51
fabbioneStx: thanks02:51
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rorryserver allows proxy connections?02:51
Amaranththe others were zombies02:51
IIIEarsHi02:52
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RQhello02:52
avalostI have to say that irssi is great for clones/floods etc02:52
avalostI never have a problem with them02:52
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Stxrorry: Not open ones..02:52
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RQwho has? ;)02:52
rorryk, started to wonder02:52
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fabbioneget ready...02:53
Amaranthhmm, we don't have +f02:53
Ms-W0rld.02:53
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RQwhat is +f?02:53
RQ;] 02:53
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iiears_+F-off?02:53
J_Ppeople, id i have hoary and use universe, when breeze are released and i do upgrade of my system to breeze, packages instaled from universe will be upgrade too without problems ?02:53
Amaranth+f is forward02:53
iiears_nice02:54
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Ms-W0rldThe Real Slim Santa Was In Here02:54
Ms-W0rldomg omg02:54
kentJ_P yes they will aswell be upgraded.02:54
qt2err.... does hoary come with evdev?02:54
Amaranthif +f is set and you go over the join limit or +i is set they go to whatever channel you set with +f02:54
danielsegads, missed that cute flood02:54
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iiears_Amaranth - Appreciate your being here. :)02:54
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Amaranthexactly the same second02:55
bimberi'twas me02:55
Amarantham i really fast or was i already reading? :)02:55
Amaranthi'll never tell02:55
iiears_lol02:55
bimberii was impressed :)02:55
qt2anyone/02:55
ed1t\workhow can i add stuff to gnome menu?02:55
iiears_system bells are handy02:55
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drcodehi all02:55
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drcodeI am looking for opensource developers for some nice project02:56
drcodeany idea where I can publish my email ?02:56
PlanarPlatypusdrcode, what project?02:56
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J_Pwithout universe ubuntu have only  5846 packages, with universe 2000002:56
avalostit'd be nice if someone would implement IRC services with a feature on chanserv like /msg chanserv killclone #channel luser@host etc02:56
iiears_nalioth - Welcome Back02:56
J_Pthen why universe not have oficial suport ?02:56
Amaranthavalost: err02:56
Stxavalost: that's what Operserv is used for.02:56
avalostthat way opers wouldn't need to be present to help with channel probs02:56
Amaranthavalost: that'd make us all IRC Opers02:56
Ms-W0rldhihihihihihihi02:56
Amaranthhi02:57
avalostno, only for the channel02:57
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Whistlerwhats the newest apache version?02:57
Stxavalost: We dont need to be present, but its usually a good idea. :) I cant see any reason not to be present when sorting out channel issues.02:57
avalostI run anope services for my server02:57
Amaranthavalost: Unless it was doing a kline it'd be worthless02:57
avalostthe killclones doesn't really work all that well02:57
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iiears_Gee, imagine what one bigot could do with a script. - ugh02:57
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avalostwell killclones actually does set a kline for a temp time02:57
naliothiiears_: you lost an ear02:57
Amaranthiiears_: That wasn't a script, that was a small zombie army.02:58
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iiears_nalioth - i did? - grab some duct tape will ya?02:58
avalostStx: I tend to disagree with you, i feel IRCops shouldn't have any say in private channel matters02:58
AmaranthHe either didn't have anymore zombies yet or didn't want to ruin them on attacking us.02:58
avalostreally02:58
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Amaranthavalost: A bot flood disrupts network activity.02:58
avalostunless the matters spill over and result in chaos for the entire network/lusers02:58
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naliothAmaranth: did i miss the daily windows zombie revue and chorus?02:58
ColonelKernelAmaranth, its also a federal crime under US law02:59
chaps0063what is the proper information to insert into /etc/fstab for a rw fat32 volume?02:59
avalostAmaranth: i'm aware of that02:59
Amaranthnalioth: yep, sorry02:59
Stxavalost: We dont interfere in channels, unless asked.02:59
avalostStx: ahh02:59
avalostgood :P02:59
RQJ_P, universe ain't supported officially because there's not enough people to do that.02:59
ColonelKernelAmaranth, also, its a violation of every AUP ive ever red02:59
nalioths_dogchaps0063: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically02:59
ColonelKernelread02:59
ircroborcs are better than zombies02:59
StxIll be leaving now, Amaranth - if anything, query me.02:59
StxStay safe.02:59
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Amaranthavalost: Which means they don't interfere ever because they'll only do it an op asks.02:59
Amaranthgah, i didn't get to say thanks02:59
iiears_nalioth - they were doing the "Springtime for hitler reprise" - nice synchronization and thats about it.03:00
gooI have a problem with my 3crwe154g72 (driver 3c154g72 from ndiswrapper -l) - I can't get it to set the essid, altough it seems to run OK. Does anyone has any magic solution to this?03:00
avalostOne of these days i'm going to compile dancer03:00
avalosti've never fiddled with it03:00
Amaranthwtf is Jvu_Z anyway?03:00
Amaranthdancer is dead03:00
Amaranththey are replacing it03:00
avalostAmaranth: looks like gibberish to me03:00
avalostwith what?03:00
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AmaranthI can't remember the name.03:01
chaps0063what do i add to /etc/fstab to mount my fat32 partition rw for all users.03:01
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naliothavalost: your character set is incomplete (or your client won't display those characters)03:01
RQchaps0063, umode=00003:01
AmaranthIt's something mostly like dancer for the ircd but they are getting rid of services and making something called 'Registry' to replace it.03:01
RQ?03:01
peterretiefhow do i get this * JM installed anyway!!03:01
Goshawkhi03:01
naliothchaps0063: the dog sent you something on that03:02
iiears_!java03:02
ubotuit has been said that java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.03:02
chaps0063nalioth: sorry about that..03:02
avalostnalioth: I see the characters, but still can't make sense of it03:02
Goshawkbob2, wireless cardworked in and amd64 laptop using ndiswrapper (i'm the guy of yesterday)03:02
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RQhm03:02
Amaranthbrb03:02
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avalostso i'm actually thinking about switching to ubuntu today03:03
avalostI just don't like the idea of compiling my servers and getting junk running again03:03
avalostnor does the idea of getting my music collection set up sound all that appealing03:04
RQaand? ;)03:04
avalostand03:04
RQgo switch ;)03:04
avalosti'm whining03:04
avalostwell03:04
avalostthat would also require going to grab some new cd's as i've just discovere di'm out03:04
RQis that a problem?..03:05
iiears_avalost - time to do some shopping for a new machine? - newegg is calling.. - grin03:05
avalostyes,, I still need to burn the iso03:05
RQhmm, i wonder if there are netinstall floppies available for ubuntu ;))03:05
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avalostiiears_: i'm poor man03:05
avalostlost my job when my mom had a stroke03:05
avalosthad to go back home for a month03:05
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naliothRQ: the only way i know to netinstall is to use the minimal woody debian floppy image(s)03:06
iiears_Sorry to hear that.03:06
avalostehh it happens03:06
ircrobi upgraded to xorg on breezy and it worked !03:06
avalosthopefully i'll find a decent job soon03:06
avalostotherwise i'll starve03:06
RQwow03:06
RQ;D03:06
avalostand no new machines for me03:06
RQircrob, lucky you :)03:06
naliothRQ: once you get network and apt up, drop in the hoary sources.list and get after it03:06
RQnalioth ah ;)03:06
ircrobwith nvidia as well03:06
iiears_avalost - you could always take up playing poker online. - ;)03:07
RQircrob, aren't you missing the "fiexed" font now? :D03:07
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avalostiiears_: tried that lost 100$ to win $160 :P03:07
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ircrobRQ: added link for misc font03:07
naliothRQ: doest work real well with sid, sarge or etch03:08
RQerrr... "fixed"03:08
RQnalioth what doesn't?03:08
naliothRQ: using sarge, sid or etch netinst image(s) dont work real well for this procedure03:09
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fjleonhi, i need to install the ubuntu 2.6.10 kernel source03:09
fjleonwhat is the name of the package?03:09
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RQnalioth well, i have the CD anyways :)03:09
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ColonelKernelfjleon, linux-source03:10
RQthe boot floppies was an idea for avalost03:10
RQfjleon, apt-cache search for it?03:10
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naliothRQ: ah03:10
ColonelKernelfjleon, linux-source-2.6.1003:10
rob_cowieAm I right in thinking that apache2 is installed by default?03:10
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marco_MAhi to all!03:11
fjleonthanks, i was wrongly looking under "kernel-source-xxx"03:11
marco_MAI need to setup a wireless whit dhcp03:11
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marco_MAwhat tool can i use in ubuntu ?03:11
RQmarco_MA, network preferences panel, i guess..03:12
Kamping_Kaiserrob_cowie: not on a standard install03:12
rob_cowieok03:12
dinmarco_MA, iwconfig03:12
dinmarco_MA, and ifconfig03:12
rob_cowieif i 'locate apache2' in the console, it does find a directory that seems to contain it03:12
rob_cowieAm i mistaken?03:13
dinexample: iwconfig eth1 essid (wlan name here) enc (wep key here if there is one)03:13
Kamping_Kaiserrob_cowie: if you can connect to "localhost" in your browser, its installed.03:13
Kamping_Kaiserotherwise no03:13
marco_MAI need an easy tool like the tool that you can use in the installation for setup the net.. becasue I need to teach hot to to other people03:13
rob_cowieok03:13
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rob_cowieif it isn't installed, how can I install it on a machine with no net connection?03:14
RQmarco_MA, i think it's in the settings menu03:14
RQ(or whatever the name)03:14
Kamping_Kaiserrob_cowie: it may be on the cd, but i dotn know03:14
RQshould be relatively easy03:14
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rob_cowiei think it is - how do I configure apt-get to use the cd instead of a net repository?03:15
rob_cowiei have kubuntu03:15
rob_cowieso synaptic is not installed03:15
Kamping_Kaiseryou have a thing called kynaptic... dont know how it works though03:15
rob_cowiekynaptic doesn't appear to have the capability to use other repositories03:15
Kamping_Kaiserif the cds int the drive, a standard "apt-get install apache2" should do it03:15
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rob_cowiethere is no option to add new package collections03:15
RQrob_cowie, you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually03:15
marco_MAhot to know wlan name ?03:16
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naliothrob_cowie: use "apt-cdrom" to add cdroms03:16
TaosyAny idea what might be my problem: Yesterday I tried to install ubuntu with the 5.04 install cd. It booted from the cd and let me chose the language etc but after configuring network it just halted in process which said scanning discs at around 40%. And now when I tried to install it again can't get past the "detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives" screen...03:16
sJaM[14:50]  * Cannot join #ubuntu (Channel is invite only).03:16
rob_cowiecheers03:16
rob_cowiei'll try now03:16
naliothTaosy: check md5 sums03:16
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iiears_Taosy - md5sum your disk. - likely something a fingerprint or a corrupt D/L03:17
ateveshi! is there a way to resize the startmenu button so that it is not 128x128 but 256x128?03:17
iiears_md5sum yourfile.iso should do it03:17
iiears_there is a free and very good windows app "filealyzer" md5summer is nice to03:18
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marco_MAthanks I use Amministrator tool ! all work raight03:19
rekaiiears_: what happened to your other ear?03:19
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superbenkhello03:19
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iiears_lol - an "ear" is a plaing card bent at the corner for cheating.03:19
rob_cowiecheers fellas, apache2 now working03:20
iiears_Hi03:20
naliothiiears_: you are missing something, people want to know03:20
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superbenkI'm trying to install albumshaper package into ubuntu hoary (fresh install), but I don't see it in the package lists (apt-cache search)... when I try to download it directly from a repo online and install it with dpkg -i, I get dependency issues with libc6 (requires 2.3.4 but I have 2.3.2)03:21
rob_cowiei think the apt-cdrom cammand should be mentioned in the wiki - ne1 think thats a bad idea?03:21
iiears_Ubuntu - has made me lose all 10 of my windows install disks for this machine. - grateful.03:21
superbenkwhat am I missing to get things up to date so I can install this?03:21
sangohow to save a playlist in beep media player?03:21
superbenkI've done the apt-get update/dist-upgrade already03:21
theD3viLsuperbenk ubuntu is buggy and slow !03:22
rekasango: enable the playlist and then click on the lower left button.03:22
reka*lower right03:22
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sangoreka, that doesn't work.03:22
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marco_MAsometimes the sistem freeze ... what can be a cause ?03:22
naliothare there any ubuntu rsync enabled mirrors?03:23
theD3viLmarco_MA hardware ?03:23
ircrobtheD3vil: KDE is faster03:23
marco_MAfor sample ? do you think ram problem ?03:23
theD3viLircrob i know i was using kubuntu but its slow03:23
sangoreka, does playlist name need to hava specific postfix?03:24
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rekasango: weird...i can't save one either.03:24
theD3viLmarco_MA temprature ?03:24
rekasango: not afaik03:24
qt2ircrob, kde is slower than gnome. :(03:25
ircrobtheD3vil: removed xproxy03:25
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J_Pcan I use kernel-package for compile kernel as in debian ?03:25
Taosyiiears, nalioth there weren't any differencies in the md5sums03:25
sangoreka, try to  add ".m3u" to your playlist name.03:26
marco_MAI doesnt know if is like I think.. but when  change kernel and I use an other.. no freeze.. But I can see in my LAPTOP how is the battery03:26
ircrobqt2: on my amd64 its not :-)03:26
Kyralhmmm, Python is using up 746 MB of VM...is this NORMAL?03:27
theD3viLircrob what ?03:27
qt2ircrob, lol.03:27
sJaMno that isn't kyncani03:27
sJaMsorry03:27
iiears_Taosy - Did you say the progress bar stopped as it was scrolling? - or was it later as ubuntu set up security abnd backport repositories?03:27
sJaMKyral,03:27
flipyI've set up an apache server, but I'd like to add php support. I've installed php4 and some apache libs for it, but after creating the testphp.php, if I put it on the URL it tries to download instead of running it03:28
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Kyralhmm, I'm gonna shut down XChat and see if it disappears03:28
naliothTaosy: is your hardware fully functional?03:28
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sJaMyou have to install the php module for apache03:28
Taosyiiears, whe progress bar stopped as it was scrolling and its in the early part of the installation03:28
rekasango: hehe.  good one.03:28
rekasango: you helped me out. :)03:28
theD3viLircrob what do you mean with removed xproxy ?03:28
ircrobtheD3vil: try removing xproxy03:28
sangoreka, :-)03:28
theD3viLircrob for what is xproxy ?03:28
theD3viL:P03:29
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iiears_Nalioth - not sure where to go next with Taosy....03:29
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ircrobtheD3vil: one of the x packages03:29
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tommi^Why does mencoder depend on xorg?03:29
danielsircrob: do you mean lbxproxy?03:29
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flipysJaM: it is installed03:29
KyralI didn't know gDesklets was written in python03:30
naliothiiears_: hardware function03:30
sJaMlibapache2-mod-php403:30
Kyralthats what was doing it03:30
ircrob@daniels: yes, it depends on that03:30
KyralNote to self, restart gDesklets every so often03:30
flipysJaM: it is installed03:30
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danielsircrob: it makes no difference if you aren't using it03:30
sJaMdo you see php in the apache signature ?03:31
sJaMdid you restarted the server ?03:31
Kyralnow its down to a nice 37 MB03:31
ircrob@daniels: seemed faster to me03:31
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danielsircrob: let me assure you that it makes absolutely no difference03:31
flipysJaM: yes, I restarted the server several times03:32
sJaMonce is enough flipy03:32
flipysJaM: and where do I have to see the php signature?03:32
sJaMon the error pages03:32
sJaMApache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.4.1 PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4 Server at localhost Port 8003:32
sJaMthis is mine03:32
sJaMjust go to03:32
sJaMlocalhost/nothere03:32
flipyThe requested URL /nothere was not found on this server.03:33
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sJaMyes I know03:33
vaderhow would I setup my sound on alsa? using an ibm 380 xd and it has Crystal CS423x03:33
sJaMbut belove is the server signature03:33
flipyApache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) Server at 10.0.0.74 Port 8003:33
sJaMyou see03:33
sJaMPHP isn't on03:33
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flipyuhm weird03:33
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rekawe need more sound gurus in here...maybe crimsun could hold tutes :)  ...or at least write a wiki page03:35
Belutzflipy: have you installed the libapache2-mod-php4 ?03:35
marco_MAofter config the net wireless the system freeze03:35
flipyBelutz: it seems to be instaleld03:35
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Belutzflipy: i'm a newbie too in here, but you could try to un-install and install again, both apache2 and php403:37
flipyBelutz: that's what I've tried03:37
wingohey folks, anyone know how l10n works? i tried to restart gnome with es_ES as my language but a lot of apps appear untranslated (which I know are translated) -- this on breezy03:37
Belutzflipy: ic03:37
iiears_vader - found this link - http://www.linux-sxs.org/multimedia/gentoo_alsa.html03:38
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Kyralwhats the wiki page for the NVidia drivers?03:38
iiears_!nvidia03:38
ubotuI guess nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto03:38
Kyralty03:38
stephan_1hi there, wherefrom do i get php modules for ubuntus php4?03:38
vaderty will look as soon as the browser opens03:38
RQhm03:38
RQwingo, they might be untranslated03:38
RQwingo, plus, you should install language packs for es_ES03:39
RQ;] 03:39
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RQlanguage-support-es or sth. search the cache for it.03:39
RQstephan_1, ?03:39
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ircrobKyral: www.nvidia.com03:39
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RQstephan_1, what do you mean?03:40
KyralI already have them, I was just pointing a friend to it :P03:40
stephan_1RQ: i need curl and/or the openssl modules for php03:40
RQhm03:40
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wingoRQ: thanks, giving it a try03:40
iiears_vader - this may be better - try to start alsa (from root) first: /etc/init.d/alsa start03:41
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Belutzflipy: check your /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ is there php4.conf ?03:41
J_Pwhere I find one example of sources.list for "multiverse" ?03:41
rob_cowieAnyone else have trouble with display resolution on a laptop?03:41
RQstephan_1, apt-get install php4-curl03:41
flipyno, it isn't in mods-available neither mods-enabled03:41
reka!tell rob_cowie about fixres03:41
mridleanyone know why VLC cant associate filetypes?03:42
Kyral!resolution03:42
rob_cowiecheers!03:42
ubotuI heard resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:42
mridle(VideoLanClient)03:42
J_Pmridle: here work fine03:42
Belutzflipy: may i pm you?03:42
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flipysure :)03:42
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wingoRQ: wow, not sure exactly what that package does, but it seems to have done the trick. thanks much.03:43
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colmoreIs there a script that runs automatically, in the background, after X starts?03:43
RQwingo, apt-cache show it03:43
ircrobmridle: try #videolan03:43
RQand you'll know what it does03:43
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stephan_1RQ: it says it cant find the package, i am familiar with debian package management, do i need to put another source in sources.conf?03:44
colmoreI'd like to automate some things (like locate -u) but don't want to make startup slower03:44
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RQstephan_1, h03:44
RQhm03:44
ateveshow can i avoid that gnome automatically resizes its panel icons when i resize the panel?03:45
RQstephan_1, it's in universe03:45
rekacolmore: locate is already in cron.daily on my machine.03:45
RQstephan_1, I see it in packages.ubuntu.com03:45
colmorethere are also some things that I specifically want to have run at startup03:45
rekaslocate rather03:45
RQstephan_1, you have to enable universe if it's disabled.03:46
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colmorefor instance, i'd like to have ifconfigure run after X starts since it delays boot for so long03:46
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Whistleris it possible to use ubuntu on p166mmx 40mb ram 3gb hdd laptop?03:47
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teferiWhistler: i wouldn't try03:48
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mridleWhistler:  it will be sloooow03:48
teferiespecially with that little RAM03:48
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stephan_1RQ: where do i do that?03:48
colmoreWhistler, you could install server and then run a different window manager03:48
colmorefvwm perhaps03:48
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mridleWhistler:  but try the ubuntu (or debian) mini-ram howto03:48
RQxfce03:48
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stephan_1RQ: found it, thanks03:48
RQnp:)03:48
Whistleri am thinking of using xfce or smt but not gnime03:49
teferieven then it'll be slow...40M isn't much ram03:49
colmoreHas anyone here tried the server install on an older machine?  I there much baggage?03:49
RQWhistler, gnome is much much much much heavier03:49
knudsen_Hello. Is is really true that apt-get hasn't got an option for searching for packages available? As an example "apt-get install emacs" does not work. One has to "guess" that the right name is emacs21, not emacs.03:49
colmoreI mean, back in 1998 or so, the first linux desktop I ever saw was running on a 16 MB machine...03:49
mridleWhistler:  http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html03:49
RQknudsen_, apt-cache search keyword keyword03:49
knudsen_RQ: thanks!03:49
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RQnp :)03:50
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RQcolmore, it probably had *box03:50
RQ;)03:50
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colmorealso, SDRAM is dirt cheap, check pricewatch and add 128 MB to that03:50
colmorea while back I was running Mandrake on an iBook with 128 megs ram and it was very usable for day to day tasks, even with KDE03:51
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Whistleri  dont know if this laptop supports more ram03:51
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colmoreit almost certainly does03:52
K-Bay_pretty newb question, is there some equivelant of packages.debian.org (general package browser on web) on ubuntu ? ;p03:52
flipycan anyone assure that libapache2-mod-php4 can't be unistalled?03:52
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flipyseems to be a bug with that package03:52
RQpackages.ubuntu.com03:52
RQK-Bay_,03:52
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K-Bay_duh ;] 03:52
colmoreso anyway, repeating my first question, is there a script that runs after X starts?  I'd like to have a few processes run in the background at startup.03:53
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RQcolmore, i think you can make your network script run after GDM starts as you wanted03:53
RQjust rename it03:53
RQi think that should work03:54
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colmoreok, where do I go, and what file am I looking to rename?03:54
colmorehaven't really messed around with init and such before03:54
RQcolmore, /etc/rc*.d/whatever03:54
colmoreok cool, thanks03:55
RQi think you can change the number03:55
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RQsmaller number means priority, imho. but that's just IMHO. ;)03:55
colmoreok next question: i've got an ipod that ubuntu is recognizing automatically when I plug it into usb, but gtk pod is telling me that it can't find /media/ipod03:56
colmoreany thoughts?03:56
RQcolmore, hm... you might have to mount it or so.03:57
RQand if it IS mounted, check the mountpoint then.03:57
rommeri've got a couple of identical computers and am looking to combine them in a cluster using ubuntu linux, has anyone here got any info on how to do that?03:57
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Antinomyhey all...does anyone know of a streaming media app that plays mp3 streams?03:58
colmoregtkpod isn't looking in /mnt though, it's looking in /media, which does have the folders it claims to be looking for03:58
xryis there some way to reset every network setting?03:58
rob_cowiehi03:59
deFryskAntinomy, xmms beep-media-player totem mplayer rhythmbox etc etc03:59
Whistleri have internet shared via lan 1ip adress gets 128kbps is it possible to combine those speeds?03:59
rob_cowiethe page you directed me to regarding resolution problems is interesting03:59
rob_cowieI've done what it suggested and it hasnt worked03:59
colmoreoh cool, fixed it03:59
rob_cowieim on a laptop - so it isnt a refresh rate problem04:00
Whistler1 ip adress gets 128 i have 2pc`s is it possible to combine those speeds?04:00
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colmoreubuntu called the folder "IPOD" and gtkpod was looking for "ipod"04:00
rob_cowiejust a problem with a lack of resolution options04:00
Antinomydefrysk: ok. trying that route, but no luck.04:00
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rob_cowiehowever, if i plug in a vga cable - even if no monitor is connected, I get full screen04:00
AntinomydeFrysk: xmms, for instance, won't play streaming ,mp304:01
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rob_cowieany ideas?04:01
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AntinomydeFrysk: need a codec or something?04:01
deFryskAntinomy, it does on mine04:01
deFryskoh04:01
deFrysku need the plugins04:01
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deFryskAntinomy, on breezy ?04:01
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deFrysk!mp304:02
ubotudeFrysk: I give up, what is it?04:02
deFryskhmm04:02
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rommeri've got a couple of identical computers and am looking to combine them in a cluster using ubuntu linux, has anyone here got any info on how to do that?04:02
deFrysk! restricted04:03
ubotuwell, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats04:03
qt2err, how would i correct the 'master' volume control not working in ubuntu?04:03
iiears_ubotu you are certainly getting smart.04:03
ubotuiiears_: what are you talking about?04:03
qt2headphone and pcm work fine, master has no effect.04:03
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Bitmastr1i can't decide between debian or ubuntu on a k6 450... suggestions? (i know i can do server with xfce)04:03
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iiears_Bitmastr1 - more support on IRC with Ubuntu?04:05
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Bitmastr1i think ubuntu has a faster booting time..04:05
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Bitmastr1but debian has a more up to date package system (in the testing branch)04:06
RQthen what? ;] 04:06
Whistleris laptop ram different from normal ram?04:06
mridlebut ubuntu is stabilized every 6months04:06
mridledebian every 3 years :)04:07
mridleWhistler:  : yes04:07
Whistlerk04:07
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Bitmastr1true, but the testing is updated every week or so?04:08
RQWhistler, laptops usually use SO-DIMM04:08
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Bitmastr1and even if i use the breezy... is firefox 1.1 included?04:08
Whistleranybody knows cheap online shop where can i buy ram for laptop?04:08
RQBitmastr1, well... there's breezy ;)04:08
Whistleri think this one uses simm not dimm04:08
RQit's so current it doesn't even work ATM04:08
RQ;)04:08
Bitmastr1i've heard that it won't be included04:09
rob_cowieis it possible to browse the package repository via the web and download packages manually?04:09
Bitmastr1(firefox 1.1 and the next xorg)04:09
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RQWhistler, eBay04:09
Bitmastr1rob yes04:09
RQBitmastr1, eh? ;] 04:09
Bitmastr1but you must check the dependancies04:09
RQrob_cowie, packages.ubuntu.com04:09
rob_cowiecheers04:10
RQBitmastr1, well xorg is being fixed now.04:10
Bitmastr1the breezy will have a free in the next month.. and ff and xorg will be released after that04:10
RQFF1.1... i think it depends on when that will be released04:10
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RQprolly04:10
RQhowever, you'll find that in post-breezy in that case, i think :)04:11
Bitmastr1i wanted to try ubuntulite but the site is down04:11
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Whistlerwill ubuntu+xfce run as fast as win98?04:11
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Bitmastr1i think even more faaster :-)04:11
mridletry & see04:11
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RQWhistler, i doubt that04:11
RQ;)04:11
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RQ(depends on the state of windows98 of course)04:12
Bitmastr1you also need to remove unwanted services04:12
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RQBitmastr1, X11 is the first unwanted service in that case, i'd say04:13
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mridlehehe04:13
Bitmastr1:-D04:13
RQ;004:13
rommerdoes anyone know how i can install openmosix on a hoary server install?04:13
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Whistleri have laptop like this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6786151691&category=42199&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=104:14
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Whistlerwhat do you think about chanses of using ubuntu+xfce04:14
Whistler?04:14
mridlewhy dont you just TRY?04:14
Whistleri am scarred04:14
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Whistler:)04:14
mridleof what? wasting 1hour of work? :P04:14
GhetekI just got a job as a pc technician and im doing VERY well, they asked me to make a list of stuff i might need. what might i be forgetting? so far i got: 32mb jupmdrive, 512mb jumpdrive, pci diag card, co-located server space, 1 licence for winrollback, 700m laptop, kvm over vnc, 1 licence for crossover office.04:14
mridleGhetek:  erh, what you need for what?04:15
RQWhistler,04:15
RQi've been running debian on a P133 box with 48 megabytes of ram04:15
Ghetekmridle: im a pc repair tech04:15
Bitmastr1RQ, with x?04:15
RQit works. as long as you don't run firefox or openoffice04:16
RQBitmastr1, yeah.04:16
Bitmastr1woot04:16
RQi had ROX on it04:16
WhistlerRQ u used xfce?04:16
mridleGhetek:  knoppix live-cd04:16
Bitmastr1xfree or xorg?04:16
RQxfree ;)04:16
danielswhether it's xfree86 or xorg doesn't make a whit of difference04:16
RQhowever. it was pain in the ass.04:16
Bitmastr1do you think it's faster?04:16
Ghetekmridle: yeah but thats free04:16
RQthat box runs windows98 now.04:16
danielsif anything, xorg has decreased memory usage, because of all the fixes we've made to libraries in it since to fix memory leaks etc04:16
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RQBitmastr1, and i think windows98 is much faster04:17
Bitmastr1have you tried damn small on that?04:17
RQnope04:17
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Bitmastr1they say it run pretty fast on old machines04:17
RQnow i'm having a 733 Pentium3 at home. And run XFCE4 on it. Ownz ;))04:17
RQwith an exception that i cannot logout normally since some point.04:18
Bitmastr1and i tried that.. but didn't like it much as  ubuntu04:18
RQxfce4 runs on ubuntu there :)04:18
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Bitmastr1well now the problem is... using hoary or using breezy?04:19
RQbreezy :)04:19
Bitmastr1should i download a new netinstall iso?04:19
Whistlerhoary04:19
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Whistler=] 04:19
mridlefixed X in breezy now?04:19
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi got my new sound card ^_^04:20
RQbut i haven't updated it for a week or two. cuz my main box is an iBook with OS X now =)~04:20
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ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know how a soundblaster live 5.1 is with ubuntu?04:20
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J_Pwhat is "hoary-backports" ?04:21
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deFryskChurcH_of_FoamY, afaIk it should work fine , just dont get a 7.104:22
Bitmastr1they are package from breezy usable from the hoary version04:22
mpmc<_<... I'm a bit confused people.. Ok.. Let me explain. I'm creating a PHP BOT.. If I use the Command line it just see loading and it exit's after that. but If I run it though Apache it works fine.. I don't userstand it..04:22
Bitmastr1i.e. updates04:22
Raskall-edgehmm... if I do a "dd if=/dev/hd<ubuntulivecd> of =/dev/sda<1 gig usbstick>". Will I then be able to boot the livecd from the usbstick?04:23
qt2http://pastebin.com/317015 <- is there something wrong with this evdev config?04:23
dataw0lfAnyone got Ubuntu on an AMD 64 they want to test a brand spanking new package with?04:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYdeFrysk should it be able to put out more than one sound? cause my soundcard can only put out one sound at a time04:23
mpmcanyone04:24
deFryskChurcH_of_FoamY, that I do not know04:24
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Bitmastr1ChurcH_of_FoamY, have you properly configured alsa?04:24
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Bitmastr1(dmix)04:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYas far as i know it's configured properly04:25
dataw0lfAnyone? le usual testers are unavailable.04:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYi think i just have a crappy onboard sound card04:25
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Whistlerme too04:25
Whistler=] 04:25
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Bitmastr1are you using esd?04:26
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Whistleroh i remembered is it possible to have 2 programs using audio?04:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYit dosen't matter what i use as the sound server with this card it still only puts out one sound at a time04:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYthats why i went out and got a soundblaster live 5.104:27
RQWhistler, yes it is04:27
RQsometimes ;))04:27
mridleyes04:27
Whistlerwhat do i need to do?04:27
RQubuntu enables that by default, i think :)04:27
mridleesd+alsa04:27
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Bitmastr1yep, but i dropped esd and used only alsa04:27
rommeri've got a couple of identical computers and am looking to combine them in a cluster using ubuntu linux, has anyone here got any info on how to do that?04:28
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mridleWhistler & ChurcH_of_FoamY : check out the esd+alsa howto04:28
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Whistlerthx04:29
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mridlehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206304:29
mridlethe link even04:29
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spikehi04:29
Bitmastr1hi04:29
vaderam looking @ thaat link mirdle... thanx needed that one04:29
spikeapt-get remove amarok wants to remove kubuntu-desktop...04:29
spikethat looks insane...04:29
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markusdarkusDoes anybody know how 2 play mp4 audio in ubuntu?04:30
mridlenp04:30
emXspike: kubuntu-desktop is a 'dummy package'.04:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYyou know i followd the howto and it just screwd up the sound card04:30
alkuoviI have looked for information about processor optimized kernels. I have an old Intel Celeron 466 MHz, so will 686 bring benefit or is it only for the newest high power machines?04:30
emXspike: try 'apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop'; it'll give you more details on the package04:30
Antinomycan anyone tell me how to get an application in the application list?04:30
mridleChurcH_of_FoamY:  it works for me04:31
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mridleChurcH_of_FoamY:  doesnt work with your new card either?04:31
spikeemX: k, tnx04:31
emXspike: np.04:31
mridle(and i dont think it breaks your hardware, just reset the settings.. )04:31
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Antinomycan anyone tell me how to get an application in the application list?04:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYi haven't tryed it with the new card04:32
Bitmastr1in the menu?04:32
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vaderAntinomy: I have been playing with that, looks like I have to rebuild my menu list04:32
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hitokiri_odinhmm... how do I mount my HD in this live CD? (am a n00b)04:33
AntinomyBitmastr1: yes04:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYthe only type of onboard shut-off is in the bios04:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYsame thing with the vid card04:33
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ChurcH_of_FoamYso i'm thinking that theres gonna be some sorta reconfig of ubuntu or something04:33
markusdarkusDoes anybody know how 2 play mp4 audio in ubuntu?04:33
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Joose^hi04:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYto get it to use the new soundcard04:33
Bitmastr1there is a prog.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3818304:34
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rommeri've got a couple of identical computers and am looking to combine them in a cluster using ubuntu linux, has anyone here got any info on how to do that?04:34
mridleChurcH_of_FoamY:  unload the module04:34
mridlelsmod / modprobe etc etc04:34
Joose^what are the system requeriments to run ubuntu?04:34
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Bitmastr1rommer have you tried looking for a howto?04:34
mridleJosse: with gnome 512mb ram and P3/p404:34
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hitokiri_odinei... how to mount my other partitions?04:35
vaderJoose^: I am running it on a p1 233 64 mb ram and I also have a 4 gig hard drive04:35
AntinomyBitmastr1: thanks~04:35
Joose^vader and run good?04:35
Bitmastr1Antinomy: np04:35
vaderdecent with xfce4 window manager04:36
rommerBitmastr1: yep04:36
mridlexfce is slimmer than icewm ?04:36
vaderI have that one too but have to re-build the menu list for it04:36
Joose^i want to run ubuntu in a celeron 1.5ghz.. with 256mb ram... but i don't know if will run good or not04:37
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AntinomyBitmastr1: What should I do with this code?04:37
Bitmastr1rommer: i only know it requires a medium-high knowledge of linux (and i don't have that :-( )04:37
Whistleri will run as hell04:37
Bitmastr1install tha package and run..04:37
Antinomyoy vey.04:38
rommerBitmastr1: yea i know04:38
WhistlerJoose^ i use ubuntu on amd 70004:38
Whistlerand its like wind04:38
Joose^whistler yeah? xD04:38
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Bitmastr1it should let you modify or add the menu04:38
rommerJoose^: if you are only running xfce4 or fluxbox it will run fine04:38
Whistlerrommer only xfce?04:39
Whistleri use gnome and its speedy04:39
AntinomyBitmastr1: can you walk me through this? total n00b. I'm not sure what this stuff means.04:39
rommerperformance will be alot slower if you used gnome or kde04:39
vaderWhistler: what are the specs on ur system?04:39
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Whistlerdesktop or this laptop?04:40
vaderlaptop04:40
Bitmastr1well.. never used it... when i need a prog i launch with  the terminal :-)04:40
Whistlerlaptop 166mhz 40mb ram04:40
AntinomyBitmastr1: ok.04:40
J_PAfter i put multiverse in sources.list, and do apt-get update; apt-get -f dist-upgrade show many apckages for upgrade, but without mulverse not show that why ?04:40
AntinomyBitmastr1: thanks...04:40
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Whistlerdesktop is 700mhz 256 ram 128 video04:40
Bitmastr1np04:40
Whistlerand its more than enough for me04:41
scenaIn /etc/network/interfaces is there a limitation as to what the 'up' option can run?04:41
Antinomycan anyone tell me what to do with an autoinstall file?04:41
Whistlerrun it04:41
Whistler:)04:41
Antinomydo I just paste it into root term?04:41
Joose^does ubuntu support all video cards and sound?04:41
RQscena, i don't think so04:41
Whistlerjoose most of them04:41
RQAntinomy, yes04:41
Antinomyrq: thanks.04:42
scenaRQ: Im having a routing problem. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50437 .04:42
Joose^;-)04:42
RQplus, ensure it's executable04:42
scenaRQ: for some reason, they aren't taking on boot when i put them in the /etc/network/interfaces file04:42
Joose^i have to wait my ubuntu cds... :-(04:43
Antinomycan someone look at this autoinstall script, and tell me why it's throwing an error when I paste it into root?04:43
WhistlerJoose^ donwload one04:43
Antinomyhttp://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg04:43
Joose^Whistler i don't have broandband now...04:43
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AmaranthAntinomy: you aren't supposed to paste it04:43
RQscena, i'm afraid you're doing it the wrong way04:43
RQthat's all.04:44
AntinomyAmaranth: ok, what do I do with it?04:44
Whistlerantinomy try sudo apt-get install smeg04:44
AmaranthAntinomy: save it to your home dir, open a terminal, and run 'sudo python installsmeg'04:44
patrick__hi04:44
scenaRQ: wrong way as in you dont put them there, or wrong way as my syntax is incorrect04:44
AmaranthWhistler: That only works if you're on breezy or have backports enabled.04:44
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WhistlerJoose^ i used 128kbps to download cd04:44
AntinomyAmaranth: ok, i'll try it04:44
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Whistler:P04:45
scenaRQ: my initial thought was to put them in one of the init.d scripts04:45
Bitmastr1for slow machines.. what isit's better ext3 or reiserfs?04:45
scenaRQ: but someone here said I put themin the /etc/network/interfaces04:45
dupsspeaking of backports, does anyone have mirrors that are working?04:45
AmaranthBitmastr1: ext3 is _always_ better04:45
RQscena, nah04:45
Whistleri am still using 128kbps04:45
Whistler=] 04:45
RQi think it's not simple "route add"04:45
Joose^Whistler my conex is 40,0kbps xD dial-up...04:45
RQyou need to enable bridging or sth04:45
dataw0lfAmaranth: preach it, brotha.04:45
scenaRQ: How/where would I add static routes on boot?04:46
WhistlerJoose^ oh in that case good luck waiting04:46
Joose^xD04:46
AntinomyAmaranth: "No such file or directory".04:46
RQscena, it's not routes04:46
dataw0lfwho was asking the cluster question earlier?04:46
dataw0lfah.04:46
AmaranthAntinomy: You downloaded  the installsmeg file into your home dir?04:46
RQroutes for YOUR box are set up automatically04:46
RQ12.xx.xx.xx goes through eth004:47
dataw0lfrommer: Check out the FAI documentation (e.g., 'google fai', `apt-cache search fai`)04:47
scenaRQ: so i would just need to enable IP forwarding then?04:47
RQand 10.xx.xx.xx goes through eth104:47
AntinomyAmaranth: i saved as the install script from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38183, under downloads04:47
RQscena, i'm not an expert at that, but i think you should...04:47
Joose^thanks!04:47
rommerdataw0lf: ok thanks04:47
AmaranthAntinomy: ok, open a terminal and run this: 'wget http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg && chmod +x installsmeg && sudo ./installsmeg'04:48
dataw0lfrommer: FAI is probably the best solution for someone new to clustering in general, imho.04:48
scenaRQ: i did read that somewhere yes. Im new to this myself. On the Windows box im using as the router, I actually had to add the routes by hand. I figured I had to do something similar here.04:48
rommerok thanks ill take a look04:48
dataw0lfnp04:48
RQi don't think so04:48
RQhmz04:49
AntinomyAmaranth: seems to be working. do i need to DL the other links too?04:49
Amaranthnope04:49
dataw0lfscena: if you're setting up routes for a router, yes, you'll have to do it manually.04:49
Amaranthrunning that command should do everything04:49
RQscena, it's in iptables, i think :)04:49
dataw0lfthe installation won't know magically where you want the packets to go.04:49
AntinomyAmaranth: oops. Error!04:49
scenadataw0lf: ok, thats what i thought04:49
Amaranth*sigh*04:49
AmaranthAntinomy: what's the error?04:49
scenadataw0lf: im trying to use a dual NIC card to route packets from one net to another04:49
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AntinomyAmaranth: I'm sorry man, I'm a noob. I need help.04:50
scenadataw0lf: but i dont know where to put the route commands on boot04:50
dataw0lfscena: yeah, just checked out your interfaces layout on the forums.04:50
dataw0lfscena: do a ifup on both interfaces04:50
AmaranthAntinomy: what's the error?04:50
dataw0lfthen gimme your routing tables04:50
dataw0lf(netstat -nr)04:50
AmaranthAntinomy: I wrote smeg and that script, I'm *sigh*ing because I didn't think of something. :)04:50
scenadataw0lf: at a terminal, or ifup inside the interfaces file04:50
AntinomyAmaranth: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process04:50
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AmaranthAntinomy: close nautilus04:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYbrb04:50
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Amarantherr04:50
AntinomyAmaranth: what's nautilus?04:50
AmaranthAntinomy: close synaptic04:50
Antinomyk04:50
Amaranththen run that again in the terminal04:51
dataw0lfscena: sorry, was using the latrine.04:52
dataw0lfscena: ifdown the interfaces in the terminal, then ifup them.04:52
scenadata: np. :)04:52
scenadataw0lf: got it. ok, give me one sec need to put the box back on my bech.04:52
scenabecnh even04:52
scenabench04:52
dataw0lfnp04:52
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dataw0lfAnybody got an AMD64 they're willing to test a package on?04:52
AntinomyAmaranth: looks like it's done. What just happened?04:53
AmaranthAntinomy: you should have Applications->System Tools->Smeg Menu Editor in your menus04:53
AmaranthAntinomy: if not log out and back in and it will be there04:53
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AntinomyAmaranth: fantastic04:53
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iobosshji04:54
iobosshi04:54
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kentAmaranth will the name in the menu officially be "Smet Menu Editor"? Why not just Menu Editor?04:54
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Bitmastr1hi04:55
Amaranthkent: Why not 'Web Browser' instead of 'Firefox Web Browser'?04:55
Amaranthkent: What happens if you have more than one menu editor installed?04:55
Will_Why not just a picture of a clown holding a ballon? HUH!?04:55
dataw0lfIT!04:55
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Amaranth?04:56
dataw0lfAmaranth: Stephen King book/movie, involving a clown.  Nevermind.04:56
scenadataw0lf: almost there04:56
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dataw0lfscena: word.04:56
AntinomyAmaranth: once I have smeg, how do I hunt down an app that's been installed?04:56
hacked``guys04:56
hacked``what does this mean:04:56
hacked``find: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/: No such file or directory04:56
hacked``grep: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build//.config: No such file or directory04:56
hacked``grep: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build//include/linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory04:56
AmaranthAntinomy: That's not what smeg does04:56
AntinomyAmaranth: I know.04:56
Amaranthhacked`: You're missing linux-kernel-headers?04:56
AntinomyAmaranth: I'm asking you how can I find an app?04:57
AmaranthAntinomy: That depends on a lot of things.04:57
AntinomyAmaranth: of course.04:57
AmaranthAntinomy: For one, the name of the app.04:57
hacked``amaranth, what do i search for in synaptic04:57
Amaranthhacked`: what i just said :)04:57
AntinomyAmaranth: so, just run a search?04:57
dataw0lfhacked``: linux-kernel-headers04:57
hacked``thanks04:57
AmaranthAntinomy: You've lost me.04:57
iobossi have a problem, but i don't know what's the problem.. somebody can help me?04:57
AntinomyAmaranth: nm.04:57
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dataw0lfioboss: If you can be more specific.04:57
qt2dataw0lf, stephen king is within 5 miles of me. ;)04:57
dataw0lfqt2: live near Bangor?04:57
iobosssure.. so04:57
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qt2dataw0lf, in bangor. :)04:58
iobossi have a lan with pc win04:58
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dataw0lfqt2: sweet.04:58
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iobossi have installed samba04:58
dataw0lfqt2: Stephen King == favorite author.04:58
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hacked``amaranth, synaptic shows it as being installed, i can only "mark for reinstallation"04:58
axiseverything is installing ,nothing is working for me.. can i get the wiki url to check my sources.list against04:58
dataw0lfyou should totally start leaving Ubuntu cds on his doorstep.04:58
iobossi see pc win if i do smb://ip_pc_win04:58
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qt2dataw0lf, heh, i know him personally, eaten pizza with him.04:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYok now i have absoulutely no sound with the new sound card >.<04:58
iobossbut i don't see the workgroup04:58
dataw0lfqt2: awesome.04:58
Amaranthhacked`: no idea then04:58
dataw0lfqt2: next time you see him tell him the ending to the Dark Tower made my head hurt.04:59
qt2he used to go to my granparents pizza place a few times a week.04:59
axisuhm04:59
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qt2dataw0lf, havent talked with him in a long while XD04:59
Amaranthqt2: don't go near him, you might die of some weird disease or from some weird monster04:59
axisisn't he dead04:59
axissteven king died a while ago04:59
dataw0lfaxis: no, he got hit by a car.04:59
dataw0lfbut he survived.04:59
axisoh04:59
qt2dataw0lf, and sued.04:59
axiswell good for him04:59
axis:X04:59
scenadataw0lf: ok, booting it up now04:59
dataw0lfqt2: yeah, he got pretty hurt, I'd sue too.04:59
hacked``dataw0lf, synaptic shows it as being installed, i can only "mark for reinstallation"05:00
axisany details on who hit him05:00
dataw0lfaxis: yeah, some drunk came hit him on a back road.05:00
Amaranthhe is rich, why sue?05:00
sproingieno he's dead all right, and there's this boy in england dying of cancer that wants you to send him postcards05:00
axissigh05:00
axisi've been hit by a drunk05:00
dataw0lfAmaranth: I think it was more to get the drunk off the road.05:00
qt2it wasnt even like... pissibly atal or anything... and it was a complete accident... he shouldnt have sued.05:00
axisnot fucking fun05:00
iobossdataw0lf, i'm italian i don't known if you understand my problem.. :(05:00
AntinomyCan anyone help me with smeg?05:00
dataw0lfqt2: it wasn't a complete accident the guy was drunk.05:00
xiximkopphello! i just installed the boa webserver, and it wants to download php files. doesn't it support php scripts?05:00
qt2dataw0lf, err... no, he wasnt.05:00
Amaranthaxis: language05:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYum ok i put the new soundcard in and now i have absoulutly no sound whats up?05:00
dataw0lfqt2: sure he was.05:00
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AmaranthAntinomy: I wrote it, what do you need?05:00
dataw0lfqt2: I have the police report.05:01
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sproingiewhat the smegging smeg is smeg?05:01
iobosswho can help me with lan?05:01
AntinomyAmaranth: you seemed to not know the answer before...05:01
qt2...obsessive much? <.<;05:01
Amaranth!smeg05:01
ubotuI heard smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.05:01
AntinomyAmaranth: ok05:01
axisanybody having problems with;  bittorent, bittornado. bittornado-guy05:01
dataw0lfsproingie: Amarant's menu editor.05:01
dataw0lfAmaranth*05:01
axisgui.. or the cd rom player05:01
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ChurcH_of_FoamYso um is there any idea guys?05:01
deusabout apt: whats the backports? im having problems with them all the time, can i just remove them from sourcelist?05:01
AmaranthAntinomy: No, I didn't understand what you were asking.05:01
scenai had a problem with the ntp client lol05:01
dataw0lfdeus: backports are third party, if you don't know what they are you probably shouldn't have them in your repo list.05:02
dataw0lfdeus: so, yeah, remove em.05:02
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AntinomyAmaranth: I have smeg up and running. Earlier, I installed mplayer. I want to add it to the menu using smeg. I go to add a new entry to the sound and video menu, and I get asked the following questions - Name, Comment, Command.05:02
AntinomyAmaranth: I'm assuming the third is the most important05:02
vadersee you guys in a while... time to go back to work and get some things done05:02
AmaranthAntinomy: yeah, the first two are whatever you want05:02
axisCD Player is giving me a "drive error"05:02
AntinomyAmaranth: ok05:02
deusdataw0lf: ok backports.org makes old packages avalibe for new systems05:02
AmaranthAntinomy: for mplayer command should be 'gmplayer -zoom' (without quotes)05:03
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dataw0lfdeus: no.05:03
AmaranthAntinomy: that button there lets you pick an icon too05:03
dataw0lfdeus: backports.ubuntuforums.org05:03
axisAntinomy: hey buddy use "gmplayer -vo x11"05:03
AntinomyAmaranth: great! what does gmplayer command mean? run mplayer?05:03
AntinomyAmaranth: and what is the - zoom?05:03
Raptoidis there klite codec pack for ubuntu ?05:03
dataw0lfAntinomy: gmplayer is a script that wraps around mplayer to give you a [G] ui05:04
AmaranthAntinomy: gmplayer runs mplayer with a GUI and -zoom makes it so you can go full screen05:04
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AntinomyAmaranth: Great! may I ask you another question?05:04
AmaranthRaptoid: There is w32codecs, which is just as illegal as the klite codec pack.05:04
axisAntinomy,  I take it the script worked this time :)05:04
AmaranthAntinomy: Sure, but I have to go soon.05:04
scenadatqw0lf: ok05:04
Alfonsohola alguien espaol????05:04
scenadataw0lf: i get "failed to bring up ethX" during ifup05:04
Nermal#ubuntu-es05:04
AntinomyAmaranth: the command g[appname]  runs the app, whether out of smeg or in a term05:04
Raptoidmplayer is broken and there comes no sound from xine for video clip05:04
sproingie!spanish05:04
ubotuwell, spanish is Documentation in Spanish http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SpanishDocumentation05:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYok can anyone answer my question?05:05
AntinomyAmaranth: ?05:05
sproingiebah05:05
dataw0lfscena: anything interesting in dmesg?05:05
sproingie!es05:05
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:05
axisFOAMY05:05
scenawith an SIOCARRT: file exists05:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes?05:05
AmaranthAntinomy: yes, gmplayer runs it from the menu and from a terminal05:05
hacked`guys, my INSTALL document says "the installation requires the compiled kernel sources or headers against the matching kernel" what do i need to get from synaptic? i already apparently have linux-kernel-headers05:05
dataw0lfscena: do you know for a fact that you can run either of these interfaces in Ubuntu ?05:05
axisfoamy: what's your problem05:05
AmaranthAntinomy: whatever you use to run it from a terminal, that's what you put in for 'Command'05:05
RaptoidAmaranth, w32codec has been download before05:05
AntinomyAmaranth: one more ?05:05
scenadata: if i configute one with a different IP i can navigate the internet & the local net05:05
Nermalhacked`: that should be all then05:05
AmaranthRaptoid: Then you should be good to go.05:05
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sproingiewhat's "alli obtendran mas ayuda" translate to?05:05
AmaranthAntinomy: Quickly, I really need to leave soon. :)05:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYaxis i put a new soundcard in after disabling the old one in bios now i have no sound >.<05:05
AntinomyAmaranth: if I install an app anywhere in the file directory, i can still run it from "g[app] "?05:06
epWhen I do alt-f2 and run 'gmplayer -zoom' (from KDE btw) I get an error dialog saying "maybe the font path is wrong".05:06
dawkirstHello. Any mp3 ripping ap?!05:06
AmaranthAntinomy: g[app]  is only gmplayer, they aren't all like that :005:06
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RaptoidAmaranth, mplayer do you know why mplayer doesnt play ?05:06
dataw0lfscena: both of them?05:06
AntinomyAmaranth: i.e, there's no "porogram files" directory...05:06
AmaranthAntinomy: anything you install from a package should run, yes05:06
scenadataw0lf: they are the same model card, so id assume so05:06
dataw0lfscena: i.e., you've connected with both?05:06
Antinomy:)05:06
AntinomyAmaranth: many thanks05:07
AmaranthNow, I really have to go. :)05:07
axisChurcH_of_FoamY, : double click on your sound mixer icon, go into prefeences05:07
scenadataw0lf: i can perofrm a quick test05:07
dataw0lfscena: and nothing interesting in dmesg?  gimme that link again.05:07
axisChurcH_of_FoamY, : see if you can see your other card in there05:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk05:07
Raptoidmplayer dont close05:07
dataw0lfscena: yeah, perform that test whilst I check your interfaces config again.05:07
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scenathe link to my question?05:07
AmaranthRaptoid: run gmplayer05:07
scenahttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5043705:07
djpdoes anyone know if rhythmbox supports the speex codec?05:07
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dataw0lfscena: thanks05:07
deusI keep getting heat from my apt: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code05:07
dawkirstHello. Any mp3 ripping ap?!05:08
axisanybody having problems with the sources?05:08
Raptoidmplayer interrupted by signal 11 in module : demux_open05:08
scenadataw0lf: np. im testing now. bbias.05:08
axiseverything is installing properly, nothing is working05:08
deusCould it be that the url is faulty or is it the server that got problems?05:08
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mpmcWhen is the next release of Ubuntu out?05:08
ptlooct 0505:08
axisouch05:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYi don't think that it can see the sound card >.<05:08
mpmcok.. thx :)05:08
Raptoidmplayer crashed by bad usage of CPU/RAM bla bla blak..05:09
axisfor some reason, my cds are mounting05:09
dataw0lfscena: ok, I see the problem.05:09
mpmcSame Old Story!!!!!!!!!!05:09
RaptoidAmaranth,05:09
axisbut i can't play them05:09
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axiswtf05:09
ptlompmc, they're regular, every 6 months05:09
dataw0lfeth1 needs to have eth0 as a gateway05:09
RaptoidAmaranth, mplayer crashed by bad usage of CPU/RAM bla bla bla...05:09
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dataw0lfI'm guessing that eth0 is the one that you're routing to the internets.05:09
axisubuntu is losing me05:09
SpaceBasshey folks... grabbed the latest ISO off the site and about to install... does it wipe the drive or will I be pompted at some point about partition info?05:09
mpmcanyone know a good Music Player.?05:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYsame here05:09
dawkirstmpmc, I use Beep.05:09
axismpmc:  apt-get install xmms05:09
mpmcso do i.05:10
dupsmpmc: a jukebox like Itunes, or something like winamp05:10
dupswhich would be xmms05:10
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mpmcInstallin Plugins for bmp is very hard05:10
axisjust install xmms05:11
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axisit';s like winamp05:11
axisit'll play mp3's05:11
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eppersonally I've always hated winamp-like skins.  It seems like everybody tries to emulate it.05:12
dawkirstep, I agree.05:12
Bitmastr1what's the difference between installer and daily installer?05:12
AntinomyIs it me, or does Ubuntu kind make it hard for the average user?05:12
Bitmastr1mpmc use gmpd05:12
scenadataw0lf: back05:13
dataw0lfscena: ok, /priv me05:13
scenadataw0lf: i disabled one card, gave it an IP that can get to the internet, and it can get out05:13
dataw0lfI think you might be a bit confused on network fundamentals05:13
mpmcgmpd??05:13
Bitmastr1use mpd05:13
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Bitmastr1as a daemon to play music05:13
Bitmastr1and gmpd to control it05:14
Antinomycan anyone tell me how to kill a frozen app?05:14
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dataw0lfps aux | grep 'appname'05:14
dataw0lfkill -9 <pid>05:14
dataw0lfor05:14
axisis there any software that will make use of my surround sound05:14
axisfor dvds05:14
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dataw0lfps aux | grep 'appname' | cut -d ' ' -f3 | xargs kill -905:14
Bitmastr1antinomy: or killall "appname"05:15
axisdoes anybody here know anything at all05:15
Antinomylol05:15
veruusno05:15
spyguitarquick one - where's the config file for X11?05:15
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axisbunch of fucking wankers05:15
axisjust as easy to install freebsd05:15
axisthis ubuntu is garbage05:15
AntinomyBitmastr1: ok...lemee try05:15
axisGARBAGE05:15
veruushah05:15
spyguitargoogle is your friend, axis.05:15
axisttorents don't work05:16
axisspyguitar,  thanks bud05:16
Antinomylol05:16
axisspyguitar,  thanks for the tip05:16
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axisi can install mplayer with all the codecs05:16
axisi can get sound to work05:16
axisbut05:16
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axiswhen i go to play an audio cd05:16
axisnothing05:16
axisbittorent starts up05:16
axiswhen i open a torrent05:16
axisit CLOSES05:16
axisazereus doesn't install05:16
AntinomyI have to say, if linux community wants to beat windows, it needs to become a lot more common-sensical05:16
axisaccording to the  guide install05:16
scenadataw0lf: its not really the 'internet'. its our corporate internet network05:17
axisor have some actual working how-to's05:17
axisgawd05:17
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veruusaxis: do you have java installed?05:17
Antinomyyeah, if one more person sends me to that "ubuntuguide"05:17
AntinomyI'll puke05:17
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loftus!ubuntuguide05:17
ubotusomebody said ubuntuguide was a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.05:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol yea i know05:17
Bitmastr1antinomy go to www.ubuntuguide.org05:17
mpmchow do I control mpd?05:17
mindspinAntinomy: Linux community doesn't want to eat anyone05:17
Bitmastr1:-D05:17
axisveruus, : why would i bother? gbittorent, and bittornado (plus bittornado-gui) installed fine05:17
mindspinbeat05:17
axisBUT DON'T LOAD05:17
Bitmastr1with gmpd05:18
Antinomy<vomits>05:18
axiswhen i type "bittornado-gui"05:18
mpmcurl?05:18
Bitmastr1i mean GMPC05:18
veruusaxis: azureus needs java05:18
axisor bittornado05:18
veruus:P05:18
axisveruus, : yah thanks for the tip, are you even readin what i'm saying05:18
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axisveruus, : why would i bother? gbittorent, and bittornado (plus bittornado-gui) installed fine05:18
AntinomyLOL05:18
mpmcok.. nm05:18
axisBUT DoN't have executables05:18
veruusyeah, you're bitching about azureus not working, for one05:18
axisno05:18
axisi'm bitching about it NOT EVEN INSTALLING05:18
axislet alone working05:18
axisi' m bitching about bittornado05:19
axisnot working05:19
Antinomy"Do not advise people to use marillat, Debian has moved on after the Hoary freeze and may/will cause dependency problems"05:19
Antinomyah, how clear.05:19
axisand the default bittorent client05:19
Antinomyglad I read that05:19
axishahaha05:19
axiswhat am i supposed to do05:19
axisplay fucking gnibbles05:19
axisall day05:19
axisfucking sweet05:19
Antinomyheheh05:19
sproingie!coc05:19
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/05:19
Amaranthaxis: Language.05:19
veruusbittorrent and bittornado worked for me05:19
veruusdon't know what to tell you05:19
axisCOC suck my fucking balls05:19
veruus:)05:19
axisi'll be back on a vhost05:19
axisfuckers05:19
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axisfreedom of fucking speech05:19
axisgarbage fucking ubunt crap05:20
axisbunt this05:20
mindspinnice people around this afternoon ;-)05:20
sproingiebye bye05:20
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axiscyu in a bit05:20
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sproingiei doubt it05:20
hacked`guys, how can i check if i have the linux source? in /usr/src/ i have linux-headers-2.6.10.5, rpm and linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz205:20
dataw0lfthere it is05:20
hacked`but is it installed05:20
dataw0lflinux-source-2.6.10.tar.gz205:20
spyguitargeez, thank you.05:20
dataw0lferr bz205:20
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dataw0lfuncompress and unarchive05:20
hacked`dataw0lf but is it installed05:20
Antinomy"Whether you are helping out on IRC, the mailing lists or the forums, always stay friendly to people, especially if you see they are new to linux. Give them wiki links instead of the command to use Google"05:20
Antinomyah - THAT I understand.05:20
hacked`tar zxvf *.gz2 ?05:20
dataw0lfhacked`: in what sense?05:21
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dataw0lfapt-get snagged it.05:21
deviosI got an urgent problem here (trying to meet a deadline).  I have an external hdd hooked up (usb2) that was automatically mounted under /media/usbdisk.  It has 50GB of individual email files and their associated attachments on it.  I am trying to tar -czvf ~/allmail.tar.gz /media/usbdisk/*, and it starts to read the external drive for a few seconds, then the console I issued the command in crashes/autocloses and no .tar.gz file is created.  I really need to05:21
deviosfind a way to make any kind of archive file out of these files in a hurry to meet a looming deadline.  any helpp GREATLY appreciated.05:21
hacked`i got it via synaptic05:21
Will_Why was he complaining? It sounds like java was broken05:21
dataw0lfnow uncompress and unarchive and make menuconfig or whatever you gotta do.05:21
hacked`doesnt synaptic install it? (uncompress it)05:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYi think that i'm going to switch back to windows (on this computer) and put ubuntu on a lower end machene05:21
hacked`or else, thats useless05:21
sproingiebeats me.  in all that ranting, i never saw a specific error message05:21
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi even bought point2play and it won't play the one game i bought it for05:22
mpmchow do I start Mpd?05:22
DaSkreechCan I use the Ubuntu install CD to reinstall GRUB?05:22
hacked`i dont think tar does .bz205:22
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, yes05:22
TokenBadprob someone who just liked to rant in here..cause he figures he wouldn't get banned05:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm not deserting ubuntu05:22
veruusdevios: can you copy the data to the system first?05:22
spyguitari've just installed hoary on my powermac g4, dual-booting with OSX. when I boot into hoary, though, the screen is shifted maybe a centimeter to the left - does anyone know how to fix this, or where I can go for help?05:22
veruusthen try tarring it?05:22
mpmccan someone please give a step by step guide.05:23
deviosveruus: not enough room05:23
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, boot in expert mode then select the opion from the menu saying something like install bootloader05:23
DaSkreechI Saw a method on the Ubuntu Guide which seems Wrong to say the least05:23
veruusthought that might be a problem...05:23
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: There is no option there like that05:23
veruusdevios: if the deadline is really important try getting another harddrive05:23
veruus:)05:23
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ax1sGuess what. i have a bunch of free shells. i also have a few buds with *nix that have shells. guess what, we have lists of root .. guess what, i can come back ANY FUCKING TIME I WANT.05:23
ax1sLast but not least, UBUNTU SUCKS ANUS DONKEY MONKEY FUCK05:23
ax1sfucking GARBAGE05:23
ax1sBYEE05:23
veruushah05:23
veruustard05:24
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veruusanyway05:24
mpmc:/05:24
StarScreamnice05:24
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, oh05:24
Will_I can come in here whenever I want and abuse you all! Hah!05:24
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veruusdevios: try copying some data to the system and see if it gives you the same problewm05:24
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Burritohi05:24
veruusproblem, rather05:24
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: If I do a normal install and hit esc I get a Menu that has install Bootloader05:24
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ax1sGuess what. i have a bunch of free shells. i also have a few buds with *nix that have shells. guess what, we have lists of root .. guess what, i can come back ANY FUCKING TIME I WANT.05:24
ax1sLast but not least, UBUNTU SUCKS ANUS DONKEY MONKEY FUCK05:24
mpmchow do I start/confugure mpd/gmpc??05:24
Burritoi have a problem, can somebody help me out?05:24
ax1sfucking GARBAGE05:24
ax1sBYEE05:24
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: Both Grub and LILO05:24
ax1sGuess what. i have a bunch of free shells. i also have a few buds with *nix that have shells. guess what, we have lists of root .. guess what, i can come back ANY FUCKING TIME I WANT.05:24
ax1sLast but not least, UBUNTU SUCKS ANUS DONKEY MONKEY FUCK05:24
ax1sfucking GARBAGE05:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYis it just me are is there a bunch of really mean people in here today05:24
ax1sBYEE05:24
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, yes, that is the menu I am talking about05:24
ax1syou can't05:24
BurritoPlease add the files05:24
Burrito  codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m405:24
Burrito  progtest.m405:24
Burritofrom the /usr/share/aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory05:24
Burritoor directly to your aclocal.m4 file.05:24
spyguitarsomebody kill this guy?05:24
BurritoYou will also need config.guess and config.sub, which you can get from05:24
ax1sGuess what. i have a bunch of free shells. i also have a few buds with *nix that have shells. guess what, we have lists of root .. guess what, i can come back ANY FUCKING TIME I WANT.05:24
Burritoftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/config/.05:24
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Burritowhat should i do?05:24
veruus/ignore ax1s!*@*05:25
veruus:P05:25
deviosveruus: trying, but it's 800,000+ files, so even a directory list takes forever...05:25
dataw0lfgot his ip05:25
dataw0lfhe'll be glined05:25
scenadataw0lf: but.. but... he has scripts!05:25
hondjeand shells!05:25
veruusand multiple shells!05:25
scenaWE'RE DOOMED!05:25
veruusoh my!05:25
dataw0lfOH MY!05:25
mpmcI'm confused05:25
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dataw0lfheh05:25
spyguitarand buds with *nix!05:25
scena*rolls hsi eyes05:25
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StarScreamhehe05:25
Amaranththat's funny, those two times he was on the same machine05:26
dataw0lfIf he can't get Ubuntu to work, I have doubts if he can operate IRC from a shell.05:26
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: Course when I try to run that entry it gives me an error about the file system05:26
veruusdevios: don't know what to tell you - see if you can get another harddrive and copy to that then archive them05:26
TokenBadyeah if he has multiple shells05:26
TokenBadwhy when he rejoined it was same net?05:26
veruusit would be nice if you could rsync directly to a tar.gz file...05:26
veruushmm...05:26
mpmcI'm asking very nicely.. can someone please tell me know ro use mpd, gmpc.05:26
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TokenBadyeah saw that to..05:26
Amaranthmpmc: never heard of it05:26
veruusmpmc: what are they?05:26
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, what kind of error about the filesystem?05:26
DaSkreechmpmc: Whats mpd?05:27
Bitmastr1mpmc... it's not easy.. i should advise you05:27
Bitmastr1i mean as easy as xmms05:27
Amaranthanyway, if someone needs me, type '!ops'05:27
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: Would you believe I forgot :)05:27
mpmcI only wanna listen to tracks on my comp while coding...05:27
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, heh, fair enoug05:27
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: I'm on a Knoppix CD now trying to do a grub-install05:27
veruusmpmc: mpg123?05:28
Amaranthmpmc: from a CD?05:28
DaSkreechIf you'd lilke I can jump to another computer and try so I can let you know the error05:28
mpmcno .. a mount05:28
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, would be helpful05:28
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veruusxmms, beep-media-player05:28
Amaranthmpmc: gnome-cd for CDs; muine, rhythmbox, xmms, bmp, and more for music files05:28
veruus?05:28
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: Uno Momento05:28
veruusyeah05:28
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AmaranthUdontKnow: Someone just threatened us with a bot flood, I don't think it's going to happen though.05:29
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DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: Hi05:31
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, yo05:31
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UdontKnowAmaranth: aah05:32
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RichiHoi UdontKnow :p05:33
UdontKnowAmaranth: who threatened?05:33
UdontKnowRichiH: oi05:33
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AmaranthUdontKnow: ax1s (~suckmypha@d150-126-33.home.cgocable.net)05:33
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Toastawhats the dpkg command for reconfiguring your video card05:33
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PlanarPlatypusToasta, what card?05:34
Toastaati05:34
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Toastaradeon 900005:34
AmaranthUdontKnow: He got a warning for swearing, threw a fit, got kicked, came back and threatened to release his shells and zombies.05:34
Toastai installed the fglrx-control and it also reinstalled a driver that doesnt work05:34
UdontKnowAmaranth: lovely05:34
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: it says install into unclean target05:34
aioToasta so what's it doing?05:35
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AmaranthUdontKnow: I think it's just some kid who is trying to sound tough, actually.05:35
aioToasta sorry if you mentioned above....05:35
Toastathe control panel works but i have no acceleration05:35
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hondjeI think Amaranth is right05:35
PlanarPlatypusToasta, have you tried module assistant?05:35
aioToasta have you modified your xorg.conf?05:35
hondjewhen you really are tough, you don't waste time threating to spam channels05:35
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PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, interesting, gimme a sec05:35
wolkihi!05:35
tritiumAmaranth, when did this happen?05:35
aiohondje yeah - how bad do you have to be to beat up on the ubuntu folks?  we're mostly a bunch of pushovers :-)05:36
wolkiHow can i import mails from evolution to evolution?05:36
Amaranthtritium: about 10 minutes aho05:36
Amaranthtritium: you miss all the fun05:36
hondjeyeah, really :)05:36
tritiumAmaranth, yeah, I seem to :)05:36
Toastano i havent done either05:36
aioToasta if you're going to run fglrx, i'd recommend getting the latest from ati.05:36
AmaranthI wouldn't.05:36
AmaranthI'd recommend using the package ubuntu provides.05:37
aioAmaranth could i ask the reason?05:37
Toastawell i tried the new installer but it gets errors on intall05:37
dataw0lfI concur.05:37
aioAmaranth the latest from ati work *much* better for me (and other's i've read)05:37
Toastaand i have no acceleration, and i cant live without my acc05:37
Amaranthaio: It's always better to use a package, that way the package system can keep track of things.05:37
aioAmaranth i couldn't agree more with that reasoning, but the functionality is severly lacking in the package.05:37
wolkii have evolution data from a previous install on my hard drive, unfortunately due to hardware errors renamed to #xxxxxx. How does Evolution save its data?05:37
scenadataw0ld: did you respond? i turned away from my keyboard05:38
dataw0lfaio: and then people expect support from Canonical or through the forums / irc channel.05:38
aioAmaranth that's the only reason i diverge from packages.05:38
scenai HATE this freakin telnet irc05:38
Amaranthaio: Plus, sometimes kernel upgrades might require the driver to be recompiled. Using a package means this is all seamless for you.05:38
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ubuntuciao a tutti05:38
aioAmaranth datawolf - gotcha - you're right.  i retract the recommendation.05:38
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, not seen that one, is there a number with it?05:38
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hondjewolki: in $HOME/.evolution05:39
aioAmaranth but I'm keeping mine installed :-)05:39
gighello05:39
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Amaranthaio: Basically if you tell someone to do something that is non-standard like that you had better be here to support them. :)05:39
aioToasta so you need to update your xorg.conf file to reflect the fglrx package you've installed.05:39
dataw0lfExactly.05:39
AntinomyIs there an english-language document that explains install processes (syn and manual)?05:39
Amaranthaio: Because I sure don't want to. :D05:39
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: no05:39
Toastai thought that fglrxconfig did that05:39
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aioAmaranth i jump in every time i see someone talking about it to try to help, but point well taken.05:40
gigaio hello05:40
aioToasta i think fglrxconfig is a gui configuration tool to run some utilities05:40
aiogig hello05:40
aioToasta but i don't think it'll change your xorg.conf file....i may be wrong.  lemme check...05:40
Toastawell it runs from promt and is text based05:41
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Toastaand it says that it does write changes to xorg05:41
gigI not add package  into cd-install05:41
aioToasta you're right - i was thinking ati control center.05:41
aioToasta i modified mine by hand.  does it modify your xorg.conf.05:41
gigi can't add package cd-install05:42
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: Should  be able to install grub from the Command Line05:42
aioToasta ?05:42
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: It is ash and seems to have almost no tools05:42
Toastais there any reason i would get errors on install05:42
Toastai used alien to install rpm driver05:42
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grogoreohi05:42
aioToasta errors on installing the fglrx stuff or on trying to create the xorg.conf?05:42
Toastait is modifying my xorg.conf file05:42
gigaio you play unbuntu linux.05:43
Toastaerrors on install. not xorg.conf file05:43
aiogig i don't see a cd-install package in my repository and i have universe and multiverse repositories added.05:43
grogoreoI'm trying to print from GGV (ps viewer) but there is no print command in the GGV preferences. I'm using Hoary Ubuntu, what is the print command? I can print from other applications just not this05:43
aioToasta what errors are you getting?05:43
Toastadpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)05:44
ToastaErrors were encountered while processing:05:44
Toasta fglrx-6-8-0_8.14.13-2_i386.deb05:44
tritiumgrogoreo, lp05:44
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, interesting, I think I have found the error, hang about while I try and find out how to fix it05:44
grogoreotritium, just that?05:44
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: ok thanks05:44
grogoreoI do have a default printer set05:44
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Toastathats the error i get05:44
tritiumgrogoreo, if you have a default printer, then you just need to specify a filename05:44
aioToasta how are you trying to install?  through apt-get or synaptic (or some other)?05:44
grogoreotritium: great thanks05:45
gigaio  you add package on cd of ubuntu linux.HOW To05:45
tritiumgrogoreo, sure :)05:45
Toastai d/l from ati and used alien to install rpm05:45
wolkihondje: found it, thanks. is there an easy way to import evoultion data into evolution?05:45
veruuswolki: copy the files over?05:45
tritiumgrogoreo, you might try ggv instead of gv05:45
hondjewolki: yep, for calendars and stuff ctrl-I will import, for emails and address book, just copy them over05:45
grogoreotritium: thats what I'm using05:45
wolkiveruus: just copying the files over the new ones?05:45
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Toastaaio will you be here awhile, i need to go take care of something, just a min05:46
veruusthat *should* do it05:46
veruus:)05:46
aioToasta ok - are you sure you want to install the ati drivers from ati and not the package installed with hoary05:46
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tritiumgrogoreo, ggv has a "Print" button.05:46
grogoreotritium, Gnome Ghostview 2.8.4. Well it's printing now anyway!05:46
AntinomyQuestion: I am clicking on an mpeg file on a website. It allows me to open with totem, or save to disk. I want to open it with xplayer. When I browse for "another application", how do I find another application generally, and Mplayer specifically?05:46
aiogig i'm not sure i know what you're trying to do.05:46
veruusAntinomy: /usr/bin05:46
Antinomyveruus: all of them?05:46
veruusfind your player from there05:47
veruus:)05:47
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: I think It's because I have ubuntu Installed and I have done updates and customization etc05:47
Antinomyveruus: Ok..thanks. But can I ask you something...when I extract an app manually, do I need to always extract it there?05:47
veruusor find the path for your player app if it's not in /usr/bin05:47
grogoreotritium, ye I know but it just said it couldn't print and in the preferences there was no print command. I'm not a CLI kind of guy05:47
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veruusAntinomy: you can always just create a symlink05:47
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: I'm getting the felling that the install menu is serial I can't simply jump to the grub Loader05:48
Antinomyveruus: but outside of syn05:48
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atevesif any germans are in here: what would be the right translation for the german word Impressum?05:48
veruusln -s /where/ever/the/file/is /usr/bin/app_name05:48
veruus?05:48
tritiumgrogoreo, try putting "/usr/bin/lp" in the "Printing Command" box05:48
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, did it ask you if you wanted to install to an unclean target?05:49
DaSkreechYes05:49
grogoreotritium, it worked with just lp, but I'll but /usr/bin too!05:49
gigaio I'm develop kubuntu  . I'm  I can't  add package  on cd.05:49
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Antinomyveruus: it's not there.05:49
veruusheh05:49
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PlanarPlatypusateves, imprint05:49
veruuswhat player and where is it currently?05:50
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: If say yes it verifies a set of packages then fails05:50
tritiumgrogoreo, okay.  I observed that mine too did not have the printing command set, but I set it, and it works just fine.  It should work for you too.05:50
Antinomyveruus: mplayer05:50
veruusAntinomy: was is mplayer?05:50
veruusokay05:50
veruus$ locate mplayer05:50
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, waht happened to the drive which means you need to do this?05:50
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: with Console 3 showing a /target/usr/bin/awk; File exists error05:50
Antinomyveruus: I have no idea where the app is, and that's sort of the general problem05:50
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: REinstalled Windows05:50
veruususe locate, ding-dong05:51
veruus:)05:51
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: Well going to I want to make sure  can do this before05:51
gigaio you understan me.05:51
wolkiveruus, hondje, looks like it works. i don't have my contacts or calendar, but i can create them again, that's no problem. thanks!05:51
hacked`guys, why am i getting gay "gcc: command not found", when synaptic shows gcc installed05:51
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PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, so this is a cual boot win/ubuntu system05:51
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DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: Yes05:51
gighello hacked05:51
veruuswolki: hondje mentioned using ctrl+I to import your calendar05:51
DaSkreechso the drive is /dev/hdb105:51
veruussee if that will work05:51
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, does it currently boot?05:51
grogoreoanother question, I have Thunderbird installed and has worked great for ages but I've just tried to run it and the User Profile screen has popped up. This is the first time I've run the program so I dont know how the profile can still be in use. How can I de-use it?05:51
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: nope05:52
tritiumhacked`, please don't use potentially offensive language05:52
veruusAntinomy: getting anything?05:52
gigI  problem add package on cd type install into harddisk.05:52
hondjewolki: yeah, ctrl-I for the calendar, and you have to wait for contacts to come back, for some reason...log out and in or something maybe, I didn't pay much attention when I did it the other week :)05:52
Antinomyveruus: it lists about 5,000 files, ding-dong. Perhaps this is an area where windows outclasses linux? Can someone prove me wrong? I always know where apps are in Chairman Bill's slopworks.05:52
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: fdisk /mbr05:52
tritiumhacked`, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"05:52
veruusheh05:52
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DaSkreechI have a live CD and a Ubuntu Install CD05:52
veruustry $ locate mplayer | grep mplayer05:52
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Antinomyveruus: Why?05:53
veruushmm...05:53
gighello fabbione05:53
Antinomyveruus: why that command?05:53
veruushocan't remember how to just return the exact phrase "mplayer"05:53
gigasdf05:53
veruusso you can see where the binary file is05:53
DaSkreechI tried grub-install from the live CD and is coughed up a read only file system though I can write into the /mnt/hdb1/boot folder05:53
veruusI don't have mplayer installed, so I don't knpow05:53
veruusknow05:53
tritiumAntinomy, you have mplayer installed?05:53
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hacked`tritium, that fixed my problem, you are good05:53
veruusah05:54
tritiumhacked`, cool05:54
veruuscan you just run mplayer from the command line?05:54
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Bitmastr1veruus: is it a question or a suggestion?05:55
Antinomyveruus: ok, something like 200 files this time. WHY ISN'T THERE A CENTRALIZED FOLDER FOR APPLICATION FILES?!?!05:55
aiogig are you trying to install ubuntu from cd?  or install a package from the cd?05:55
tritiumcalm down, Antinomy05:55
Bitmastr1there is /usr/bin05:55
veruusAntinomy: there is, usually05:55
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, in that case I have really no idea unless you have a problem with your partition table or something else screwy like that, sorry05:55
veruus/usr/bin05:55
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: I can mount stuff and see it in the live CD05:55
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, on thing which might work is reinstalling windows which may fix the MBR problem05:55
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: I'm going to try a chroot then grub-install on the Live Cd05:55
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veruusAntinomy: can you just run the command, mplayer?05:55
PlanarPlatypuscould work05:55
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus:  I can  boot into Windows05:56
veruusif so, run "which mplayer"05:56
PlanarPlatypusah05:56
PlanarPlatypushmm05:56
deFrysk! bootsplash05:56
ubotuWish i knew, deFrysk05:56
Antinomyveruus:  I'll even take an extension I can search for. But it shouldnt be so hard to find apps, or associate them within my browser. which is why I dont want to just run it from the command line05:56
deFrysk! splash05:56
ubotudeFrysk: I give up, what is it?05:56
veruusAntinomy: this will get us there05:56
Antinomyveruus: k05:56
veruusit wasn't my final solution05:56
PlanarPlatypusin that case really no idea, the chrrot idea sounds like it might get some results but this is outside the reals where i feel happy giving advice now :-)05:56
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: Thanks a lot05:56
Antinomytritium: I'll be as calm or excited as I want, thanks.05:56
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: Is there actually a rescue option for the install CD?05:57
tritiumAntinomy, fine, but out of kindness towards others, please don't yell at us in the channel.05:57
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: http://ubuntuguide.org/#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation05:57
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, I don't /think/ so but I am not 100% sure05:57
Antinomytritium: no problem!05:57
tritiumthanks05:58
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: Well preliminary science says no :-)05:58
frank_!ubuntuguide05:58
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.05:58
tritiumAntinomy, dpkg -L <packagename> can be used to list the files in an installed package.  This is often useful.05:59
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DaSkreechSorry thats what Google spits out ;)05:59
NetEchohow would you go about mounting a NTFS partition from Ubuntu livecd?05:59
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veruusah, smart one there05:59
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PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, it seems to imply there is one06:00
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frank_NetEcho: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/mntdir06:00
Antinomytritium: cool - but I just don't know what I'm looking for. When I do a search for mplayer, for instance, I get a ton of files. cool. but once I have that list, how do I know which file is the executible(<---sorry if this is an offensive windows term or something)06:00
NetEchothanks06:00
veruusAntinomy: look for the file that's just called mplayer06:01
frank_NetEcho: where /dev/hda2 is the right partition and /mnt/mndir is a mount point you create with mkdir06:01
veruusthat's the executable06:01
Antinomytritium: basically, I can point my browser - I just don't know what to point it at06:01
Antinomyveruus: ok06:01
tritiumAntinomy, no, it was the all caps that wasn't so pleasant.  The word executable is fine.06:01
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NetEchofrank_, how do I make it so I can access the music on it?06:01
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Antinomytritium: you made that point earlier. do you need to bring it up again?06:02
tritiumAntinomy, what's the mplayer package you installed?06:02
NetEchojust cp it to my ubuntu homedir?06:02
Antinomytritium: I got it the first time06:02
frank_When the partition is mounted, you get access to all the files on it06:02
NetEchoeven from a media player?06:02
tritiumAntinomy, it was you remark about "executable" that I was replying to06:02
Antinomyveruus: ok, so in general, a file that is simply named after the app is the executible?06:02
NetEchocause the ubuntu media player isn't showing the files06:02
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bypark06:02
tritiumAntinomy, no, typically they're in /usr/bin06:02
Antinomytritium: Oh, I wasnt being passive agressive. I HATE windows as mnuch as the next guy and want to purge my vocab06:03
tritiumAntinomy, let's find your mplayer package wth "dpkg -l | grep mplayer"06:03
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veruusAntinomy: usually for most mainstream apps, yes06:03
frank_NetEcho: well you have to know where they are in you ntfs partition like /mnt/mntdir/music or whatever06:03
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tritiumAntinomy, okay, let's just work together here and get along.06:03
Antinomytritium: ok, but let me ask you to parse that command so I learn and dont have to ask again06:03
NetEchoI already know where it is06:03
NetEchoubuntu doesn't allow the media player to view the partition06:03
Bitmastr1question: suppose i'm runnig mencoder on a gnome terminal.. then i suddenly need to restart X... is there a way to "move the process" so that it isn't killed?06:04
Antinomydpkg -I | greo mplayer06:04
Antinomymeans?06:04
frank_NetEcho: can you browse to the files in nautilus?06:04
Antinomygrep, even06:04
NetEchofrank_, I can through the terminal06:04
tritiumAntinomy, sure.  dpkg (the Debian package management tool) has many options.  The "-l" switch lists all the installed packages.  grep helps us filter for only strings containing "mplayer"06:04
nikkiaBitmastr1: unless you have the forethought to start the mencoder inside 'screen', no06:04
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Antinomyok thanks06:04
NetEchoit seems Rhythmbox would need to be ran somehow as room06:04
NetEcho*root06:04
Bitmastr1thx06:05
frank_Bitmastr1: yeah06:05
mpmcsorry about that bitmaster106:05
Antinomythat makes sense. if i hear that, I learn, instead of just memorizing a command that doesnt mean anything to me...you know what I mean?06:05
tritiumAntinomy, definitely.06:05
tritiumAnd don't worry, it's not always this involved...06:05
DaSkreechAnyone know how I can list the devices from the grub shell?06:05
Antinomytritium: Seriously, you have the oipportunity to keep me from going running back to chairman Bill, here...06:06
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Antinomyok running this command06:06
tritiumAntinomy, well, that choice is yours, and I won't force my will upon you, but I will try to make your ubuntu experience a good one.06:06
frank_NetEcho: I don't know where the problem is06:06
Antinomytritium: nah, save me!06:07
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Antinomytritium: lol06:07
tritiumAntinomy, :);06:07
Antinomytritium: ok nothing happened06:07
tritiumyikes, mutant smiley06:07
Antinomytritium: do I need to be super?06:07
Antinomyor run it from a certain dir?06:07
tritiumAntinomy, no, that sounds like it's not really installed.  Are you sure it is?06:07
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DaSkreechdoes /dev/hdb1 = (hd1,0)?06:07
SpaceBasshey folks06:07
Antinomytritium: it's opened before06:07
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veruusAntinomy: how did you install mplayer?06:08
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tritiumAntinomy, okay, let's search for it in synaptic (the gui package manager)06:08
Antinomyk06:08
frank_DaSkreech: yes06:08
veruustritium: might not have been a deb package06:08
SpaceBassI installed with out creating any user other than root (b/c I intended to imeadatly join an AD domain for users) and now I cannot log in... not getting an IP so I cannot SSH either... how can I log in as root06:08
veruus:)06:08
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Antinomysearching06:08
DaSkreechWhy is it telling me unknown filesystem?06:08
Antinomyok, about 806:08
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tritiumveruus, good point.  Antinomy, you didn't install from source, did you?06:08
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elapsem06:09
tritiumOkay, you found 8 different packages, Antinomy ?06:09
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PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, best way to list the devices is witht he tab completion06:09
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PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, I am not sure why it would be saying unknown filesystem though06:09
SpaceBassis there at least a way to reboot into command line so I can make a dummy user?06:09
Antinomytritium: yes. I definitely didnt install this by an orthodox method, now that I'm a little clearer on all this06:09
DaSkreechPlanarPlatypus: And no it works06:09
DaSkreechnow06:09
Antinomytritium: yes, mplayer-386, 486, etc06:09
PlanarPlatypusDaSkreech, fair enough :-) Congratulations06:09
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Antinomy-k6, -k706:10
tritiumAntinomy, hrm...dpkg -l | grep mplayer should have found those.  Strange.06:10
Antinomyyeah. should I reinstall ubuntu?06:10
tritiumAntinomy, no, not at all.06:10
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DaSkreechHold on init 606:10
hacked`guys, in a README file, it says that i should enable the Crypto library support (CONFIG_CRYPTO) and the following algorythm: ARC4 cipher algorithm (CONFIG_CRYPTO_ARC4)   does that mean i have to verify this with menuconfig ? if so i can see that its set as <M> ARC4 cipher algorithm06:10
hacked`is this enough06:10
AntinomyI think someone walked me through backports last night06:10
SpaceBasslogin as root... anyone?06:11
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tritiumAntinomy, if you prefer a gui, synaptic can also list the files in each of those packages (similar to the dpkg -L <packagename>)06:11
tritiumSpaceBass, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:11
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Antinomytritium: ok, I can look here06:12
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Antinomytritium: WAIT! I think I mistyped the command06:12
Antinomytritium: one sec06:12
SpaceBasstritium:  thanks for the link... unfortunatly I didnt create any users...06:12
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tritiumAntinomy, that would explain things ;)06:12
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zenlunaticIf I run universe and the default repositories, and not multiverse, is there still a chance my system could have 'non-free' software on it (free as in freedom)?06:13
DaSkreechVictory is mine!!06:13
NetEchofrank_, did sudo mount mount the partition as read-only?06:13
Antinomyok. can you type it again?06:13
Antinomydpkg -L <packagename>06:13
Antinomy?06:13
frank_frank06:13
AntinomyIs that an "L"?06:13
tritiumAntinomy, yes, e.g. "dpkg -L mplayer-386"06:13
tritiumyep06:13
frank_NetEcho: yes because its ntfs. which is always read only06:13
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tritiumSpaceBass, none?  How did that happen?  I suppose that prevents you from booting into recovery (single user) mode as well?06:14
Antinomytritium: says it is not installed.06:14
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mpmchow do I restart apache?06:14
Crgservice apache restart06:15
SpaceBasstritium: trying recovery now...  this is my first time using ubuntu... goal was to login as root, set up kerberos authentication and use an AD domain for users... no need for local users other than root06:15
tritiummpmc, "sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart"  (or apache2 if that's what you have)06:15
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tritiumSpaceBass, oh.06:16
tritiumAntinomy, your choice if you want to use the command line or synaptic06:16
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tritiumAntinomy, incidentally, you should be able to start typing "mplayer", and then hit "Tab", which should auto-complete any executable filenames beginning with "mplayer" in your $PATH.06:17
envelwhen the breezy will be released?06:17
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tritiumOctober, envel06:17
kemikcan anyone recommend an (ssl) ftp client?06:18
envelok, thanks06:18
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tritiumkemik, other than sftp?  gftp, if you're looking for a gui06:18
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DanielHolthhi06:18
DanielHolthanyone using root-on-lvm in ubuntu?06:18
Antinomytritium: yes, thank you.06:18
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Antinomytritium: ok, well...the dpkg line doesnt seem to work in the term - what should I do in syn?06:19
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frank_Antinomy: do a search for mplayer06:19
frank_Antinomy: it will show you all the packages and which are installed (green square)06:20
tritiumAntinomy, yes, and then you can see a listing of the files in each mplayer package you have installed.06:20
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keikozhi06:20
cschaetzleHello06:20
Antinomytritium: ok, I have the list of all the mplayer06:20
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Antinomywait a friggin minute.06:20
Antinomymaybe I should install them?06:21
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AntinomyD'OH!06:21
tritiumAntinomy, :)06:21
Antinomytritium: but wait06:21
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Antinomytritium: if none of these are installed, how come mplayer runs?06:21
Antinomytritium: GRRR06:21
cschaetzleI have a problem with a w-lan printer!06:22
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tritiumAntinomy, you've got me, unless you installed from source.06:22
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Antinomyfrom source, meaning that I dled the tar and extracted and compiled...right?06:22
tritiumAntinomy, right.06:22
cschaetzleThe printer is connect with the network!06:22
Antinomytritium: thats what I did, I'm sure.06:23
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Antinomytritium: from source06:23
Sputn1khow to install .deb?06:23
Will_dpkg -i file.deb06:23
dataw0lfdpkg -i x.deb06:23
Sputn1kthx06:23
frank_Antinomy: why did you install from source?06:23
Will_I think dpkg -help | less will tell you more about it06:23
tritiumAntinomy, oh, well that is not under package management, so we can't find its files with dpkg or synaptic.06:24
Antinomyfrank_: I was taking the advice of a fellow community member06:24
cschaetzlethe conection is PRTmate06:24
Antinomytritium: ok, should I just install one of these packages in syn?06:24
cschaetzlebut itn't give  the connection !06:25
frank_Antinomy: I would try to delete the one you have now before doing that06:25
cschaetzlepleas Help me!?06:25
tritiumAntinomy, yes, but we should also see if you can locate the version you installed from source.  Do you still have the directory where you untarred it?06:25
Antinomyfrank_: how do I do that?06:25
SpaceBasstritium:  I was able to get into single user mode and create a user...06:25
Antinomytritium: I dont think so. I can do a search for files tho.06:26
SpaceBassbut not I cannot use sudo06:26
SpaceBassroot password does not work for sudo06:26
Sputn1khow to change ubuntu language?06:26
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frank_Antinomy: locate mplayer | less06:26
Antinomyfrank_: please parse that for me?06:26
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Antinomyfrank_: what does that command mean?06:26
NetEchoAntinomy,  it searches for the program06:27
tritiumAntinomy, I'm going to let frank_ help you.   I need to get going.06:27
tritiumSpaceBass, what root password are you referring to?06:27
Antinomytritium: thanks, and no hard feelings I'm from New York City and read angrier than I really am06:27
tritiumAntinomy, none at all.  I'm sorry if I snapped at you.06:27
Sputn1khow to change ubuntu language????06:27
frank_? locate (the files with) mplayer | (pipe to) less (which organizes the output so it doesn't fly on the console)06:28
Antinomyfrank_: thank you. I like that sort of explanation, it helps me learn06:28
tritiumSpaceBass, I need to get going here.  I'm sure someone here can help you out...06:28
kemikso there's no graphical FTP client with ssl support?!06:28
tritiumkemik, gftp?06:28
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frank_kemik: they probably all have ssl support. just a guess06:29
Bitmastr1sputn1k in synapticinstall language-pack-(code of your language)06:29
kemikgftp has no ssl support06:29
Antinomyfrank_: ok, got a list. Should I delete all these?06:29
kemikhad "ssh2" login.. not the same06:29
kemikfrank_:  doesnt seem so06:29
frank_Antinomy: Yeah I think so. at least the files in /usr/bin06:30
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Antinomyok, brb06:30
frank_kemik: ok I don't really know about that06:30
Antinomyfrank_: Actually, how could I modify the locate command to list the mplayer files in usr/bin06:31
Antinomy?06:31
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lqbHi06:31
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lqbwhere apt-get source save the file?06:31
Bitmastr1what fle?06:32
frank_Antinomy: I don't know06:32
Bitmastr1maybe /var/cache/apt/archive06:32
lqbaja06:33
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lqbone sec06:33
dbwhi06:33
dbwhow can i get info on an mp3 file?06:33
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dbwbitrate, length, metadata, etc06:33
dbwwithout playing it06:33
lqbnothing06:33
lqb:S06:33
mpmchow do I stop the termial making the PC beep!06:34
Bitmastr1maplyer -v file.mp306:34
snowblinkmpmc, rip out the speaker06:34
mpmc:/ now funny06:34
mpmcnot*06:34
snowblinksorry - you edit your profile06:35
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Antinomyfrank_: in windows, I needed to use a system app to uninstall another app. in ubuntu, I only have to delete the files?06:35
snowblinkmpmc, untick terminal bell06:35
frank_Antinomy: since you installed from source. yeah you just delete06:35
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Antinomyok, wish me luck!06:36
samuwhere do you dl more dictionaries for openoffice?06:36
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frank_Antinomy: It's much better to use apt-get / synaptic so that its much easier to uninstall and keep track of what you have06:36
snowblinklqb, your current directory06:36
frank_Antinomy: but when you delete like that, you have to be sure to not delete something you need06:37
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Antinomyfrank_: um...ok...06:37
Antinomyfrank_: any easy way to tell? :)06:37
soultakerhello to all06:38
soultakeri have a question06:38
soultakeri em runing the ubuntu from the live CD06:38
soultakermy question can i just copy the live cd to a hard drive and boot to the hard drive06:38
soultakerto get everything safe?06:38
frank_if its called mplayer or in a directory called mplayer, you can delete06:38
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Antinomycan't I just install mplayer from Syn over it? :)06:38
frank_Antinomy: I don't know about that06:39
soultakerany one ?06:39
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Antinomyk06:39
frank_soultaker: install from the install cd, not the live cd06:39
RQAntinomy, what makes you want mplayer so much? ;] 06:39
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nophixsoultaker: i think the livecd has a installer iirc06:39
robotgeekAntinomy: why not vlc?06:40
RQno i don't think it does06:40
soultakerhello06:40
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frank_RQ: mplayer is the media player I find plays the widest variety of formats (except dvd)06:41
soultakeri em lagging06:42
soultakerbrb06:42
robotgeekfrank_: vlc does that for me :)06:42
frank_robotgeek: what about real player and quicktime?06:42
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robotgeekfrank_: quicktime, i think yes...but real player, the new codecs...no, have to use realplayer for that. plus i'm on ppc :)06:43
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frank_robotgeek: I agree with ppc, you can't use w32codecs anyways06:44
robotgeekfrank_: everyhtime there something interesting, i burn it on a cd and watch it!06:44
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emXanyone have any experience installing ubuntu to a usb key?06:49
frank_nope. you probably need a 2Gig key, right?06:50
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Dr_WillisemX,  Not me. :P  I do recall  reading that thers some disrtos out designed just for being on a usb key.06:50
emXDr_Willis: yeah, i know.06:51
emXDr_Willis: i'm more interested in taking the live cd and tweaking it to run off usb06:51
Dr_WillisI think you can boot the live cd and have its home and some settings on a usb key.06:51
Dr_WillisOr was that the latest Knoppix that could do that.06:51
Dr_WillisGetting to be a lot of live cd's out.06:51
emXDr_Willis: ubuntu can do persistent home, but that's not what i'm looking for.06:51
Antinomyfrank_: Hey, one quick question - how do I delete a bunch of full directories06:52
Antinomyrmdir?06:52
emXfrank_: rm -rf DIRS? careful, though.06:52
Dr_Willisi recall the ubuntu installer seeing my external usb hard drive. :P but i wasent brave enough to try to install it there.06:52
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frank_Antinomy rm -r /starting/directory06:52
AntinomyemX: was that for me?06:52
emXDr_Willis: hmmm. that would make it quite easy...06:52
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emXAntinomy: yeah, soory.06:52
emX*sorry06:52
Antinomycool thanks06:52
frank_be very careful if you sudo that06:53
emXAntinomy: just don't delete anything important ;_06:53
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Antinomyfrank, emx: only deleting within an Mplayer folder06:53
Super_BQhi06:53
Super_BQi'm thinking of trying Ubuntu06:53
Super_BQbut their support website doesn't show if it does router and if the firewall can be configurable?06:54
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AntinomyemX: could you parse that command for me?06:54
Antinomywhat doies it mean?06:54
Antinomydoes06:54
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Super_BQwill it route like IPCHAINS IPTABLES?06:54
frank_-r recursive, -f force06:54
emacsenIs the commercial support not available for Ubuntu (yet) ?06:54
Antinomyand DIRS?06:54
Antinomyis that where I name them?06:55
Antinomyor will it take all of them out?06:55
frank_Antinomy rm -r /home/frank/downloads will take out downloads and everything under it06:55
Antinomyok thanks06:55
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frank_Super_BQ: Ubuntu is linux, for networking, it works like pretty much any other linux06:56
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Super_BQfrank_: ok just didn't see any details in this area on their support webpage06:58
Super_BQso I can linuxconf to do the changes?06:58
frank_uh... no06:58
emacsenSuper_BQ: don't use Linuxconf. It's sucked since it was invented. Use the command line tools or the Ubuntu GUI tools06:59
Super_BQnetconf?06:59
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frank_I don't know those06:59
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Super_BQthe PC only has 128MB ram - GNOME will be too much of a hog (for GUI)07:00
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scenaWhat's a goot router package to get for Ubuntu?07:01
Tomcat_"router package"07:02
Tomcat_-+?07:02
scenaapplication a better term?07:02
Tomcat_You only need to activate a few things for routing... there's no need for any apps.07:02
Antinomyquestion, all: I deleted a folder. when I ls, it isnt there.  WHen I try to redelete, it isn't there. but when I "locate" it, it still shows up. any ideas?07:02
swalesWhat's the command to redo the initial setup things? like keyboard, video?07:02
scenatomcat: like?07:02
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Tomcat_Antinomy: locate only updates the database once a week or so...07:03
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emacsenAntinomy: yeah locate updates only once a day07:03
AntinomyTomcat_: so it's gone?07:03
Tomcat_Antinomy: Do "sudo updatedb", I think that will fix it.07:03
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Tomcat_Antinomy: Yes.07:03
Antinomyemacsen: can I force and update?07:03
emacsenTomcat_: no.. it's in the crontab as daily07:03
Antinomyan07:03
frank_Antinomy: sudo updatedb will reset the locate database07:03
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Antinomyk thanks fellsa07:03
emacsenAntinomy: yeah so what they said :)07:03
Antinomyfellas07:03
scenabrb07:03
Antinomyhehe07:03
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raveneyeHi everybody, I'm getting this when dling ubuntu liveCd07:04
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Tomcat_scena: Search the ubuntuforums for routing, or read that guide: http://lartc.org/07:04
Tomcat_emacsen: Thanks, thought it was weekly. :)07:04
raveneyethere is not enough room on the disk to download /tmp/jkjezv2u.exe07:05
raveneyeis there ana .exe in there?07:05
Tomcat_raveneye: What does "df -h" tell you about the filesystem that /tmp is in?07:05
Super_BQkudzu?07:05
raveneyeTomcat_, wht worries me is the .exe...07:06
mumbles-outwooo my night corse has been caceled tonight07:06
swalesWhat's the command to redo the initial setup things? like keyboard, video?07:06
funkyHati got an odd mail from dpkg.... something about XF86, which of course, i'm not using07:06
scenaback07:07
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funkyHatit was telling me to edit some FontPath variables for truetype and CID fonts...07:08
mumbles-outapparetnley the garden center next to it caught alight07:08
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funkyHatdo i need to do something equivalent in xorg.conf?07:08
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scenatomcat: im looking at it now07:09
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zAo^where can I find the clearlooks-theme for FireFox?07:09
funkyHathah, i was last week as well, when installed the system. i guess i don't07:09
Wckdkl0wnwho in here has experience insxtalling Xmms-Perl-0.1207:09
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Wckdkl0wnanyone?07:10
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zAo^sorry Wckdkl0wn07:11
Wckdkl0wnok07:11
Wckdkl0wnty anyway07:11
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raveneyeQuestion: Should there be an .EXE file in the Ubuntu LiveCD?07:11
zAo^raveneye, I dont think so: only and index.html??07:12
zAo^and == an ^^07:12
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mpmccan some explain.. why this config is wrong07:12
truz24Anyone know why php5 isn't in the ubuntu repositories?07:12
mpmcmusic_directory media/windows/Media\ Files/Music07:13
mpmcplaylist_directory /etc/playlist/07:13
mpmclog_file /etc/mpdlog.err07:13
mpmcerror_file /etc/mpd.errlog07:13
mpmcdb_file /etc/mpddb.db07:13
mpmcmax_connections 207:13
mpmcsorry about the spam like.. paste07:13
zAo^truz24, got the full repos?07:13
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RQtruz24, it's not in debian either...07:13
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joe_hi07:14
truz24is this because its not "stable" yet ?07:14
mpmcPlease07:14
RQhi joe_07:14
truz24It seems that a lot of poeple use it07:14
joe_how can i install Java07:14
joe_using apt get command07:14
RQtruz24, i'd like to be able to use it too :)07:14
joe_i'm new to linux in genera07:14
RQ!java07:14
ubotujava is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.07:14
joe_and i've got Ubuntu07:14
truz24RQ, well I guess we are reduced to installing it from source07:14
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RQclick on the link ubotu gave you07:15
mpmcCan someone help me configure mpd07:15
RQtruz24, or wait :)07:15
truz24:-)07:15
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truz24I'd also like to be able to play with some JSP scripts and etc, but I have no idea what packages are needed for that.07:15
joe_any ideas?07:15
RQjoe_,07:16
RQ!java07:16
ubotu[java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.07:16
joe_yeah07:16
RQclick there07:16
joe_oh ok07:16
RQgood07:16
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joe_how do i check my sources list to make sure multiverse is added?07:17
joe_where is my sources list07:17
scenaman this routing thing is deeper than i thought.07:18
joe_yeah i'm really green i know!...lol07:18
Grid_blockhey everyone! anyone know of any good WYSIWYG editors?07:18
RQjoe_, you can use synaptic or edit /etc/apt/sources.list by hand07:18
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joe_i've got kynaptic07:18
HappyFooljoe_: the file is /etc/apt/sources.list; you can also use synaptic (system -> admin -> synaptic) to change you sources07:18
RQnever seen it07:19
HappyFoolGrid_block: maybe openoffice.org writer?07:19
mpmc:'(07:19
Antinomyall: I want to install mplayer from the synaptic gui. But it's listing dependencies it cannot find. any ideas? is there a deb file I need to enable?07:19
RQnvu07:19
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Grid_blockHappyFool, sorry i ment a WYSIWYG html editor07:19
RQnvu.07:20
zAo^Antinomy, what does it need?07:20
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RQor quanta07:20
Raptoidbreezy release ?07:20
raveneye Question: Should there be an .EXE file in the Ubuntu LiveCD?07:20
RQAntinomy, what deps?07:20
joe_before i go to too much effort doe synaptic have a P2P07:20
AntinomyzAo^: LONG list...07:20
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RQraveneye, yes07:20
Antinomywant me to copy paste?07:20
zAo^Antinomy, dont paste plz :)07:20
zAo^;)07:20
mpmclol07:20
zAo^are you in universe?07:20
hacked`guys, in a README file, it says that i should enable the Crypto library support (CONFIG_CRYPTO) and the following algorythm: ARC4 cipher algorithm (CONFIG_CRYPTO_ARC4)   does that mean i have to verify this with menuconfig ? if so i can see that its set as <M> ARC4 cipher algorithm07:20
raveneyewhy?07:21
Antinomyok07:21
RQraveneye, so that you can install openoffice in windows07:21
RQ;)07:21
Antinomywhat does that mean? I added universe debs, if thats what you mean07:21
RQor firefox or thunderbird07:21
HappyFool!pastebin07:21
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood07:21
HappyFoolyou can paste there07:21
raveneyethere is not enough room on the disk to download /tmp/jkjezv2u.exe07:21
raveneyeis that oo?07:21
RQdon't think so07:21
zAo^Antinomy, did you do a `sudo apt-get update`?07:22
RQlooks rather like a virus07:22
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Antinomydid i reload the package lists?07:22
_paco_is brezzy ubuntu out ?07:22
Grid_blockanyne know of  a good WYSIWYG editor for HTML?07:22
RQAntinomy, reload it07:22
RQGrid_block, damn you! NVU or QUANTA07:22
zAo^Grid_block, try #linux, dont spam plz07:22
mpmcCan someone, Please help me with MPD07:22
zAo^mpd?07:22
RQmusic player daemon07:22
AntinomyHmmm...reloaded and got this W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90707:22
Grid_blockRQ, why so angry?07:23
mpmcyes07:23
Grid_blockzAo^, i didnt spam....did i?07:23
zAo^Antinomy, thats fine07:23
Antinomyok07:23
Bubbling_ZombieAntinomy, don't use nerim07:23
mpmcmusic player daemon07:23
raveneyeRQ I'm dling from the official link07:23
Antinomyso try to install?07:23
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my_hazHow do i turn of the BEEP!!!07:23
RQGrid_block, cuz i had to repeat it three times for you to notice07:23
zAo^Grid_block, you asked the same thing 3 times now07:23
mpmcWhat beep07:24
Grid_blockzAo^, i think it was 2 times... anyway07:24
RQraveneye, interesting07:24
zAo^pff.07:24
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zAo^Antinomy, yes, try07:24
Antinomyok, tried to install mplayer, but still getting an error.07:24
raveneyeRQ tried it in two pcs, two SOs07:24
zAo^Antinomy, post it in a PM to me plz07:24
raveneyeget the same07:25
Antinomy"could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade"07:25
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Grid_blockRQ, sorry if i didnt see it... its pretty hard to find when u dont type my nick and the message07:25
mpmcPlease. I need help with MPD07:25
Antinomydo you need the body of the message?07:25
RQhm. what exactly are you dl'ing, raveneye ? ;] 07:25
raveneyethe Live CD07:25
zAo^Antinomy, only the error msg07:25
raveneyeRQ x86.07:25
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Antinomyok, that was it07:25
RQGrid_block, ok. however, if I say your nickname in a separate line, you should check wether i've said anything to you nearby ;)07:25
RQraveneye, hmm...07:26
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RQraveneye, shouldn't that be an iso file? ;] 07:26
RQnot an EXE07:26
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raveneyeRQ right07:26
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adwaitcan someone help me with cron jobs? i set them up.....but they just wont run.......07:26
raveneyethat's what worries me07:26
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AntinomyzAo^: you got that? ^07:27
zAo^no?07:27
zAo^lol07:27
Antinomyok lol07:27
Antinomy"could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade"07:27
RQAntinomy, that's not an error07:27
RQit's a warning07:27
RQi think ;))07:27
adwaitcan someone help me with cron jobs? i set them up.....but they just wont run.......07:27
Antinomyfeels like one/07:27
Antinomy:)07:28
zAo^Antinomy, I want the dependency error msg :)07:28
RQadwait, check the syslog? :)07:28
Antinomyok one sec07:28
zAo^Antinomy, PM ;-)07:28
RQadwait, and there's no need to repeat that line every minute btw07:28
joe_hello07:28
dieffelHi!  Anyone who successfully instelled dvd::rip on Ubuntu 5.04... i'm having probs. with installing the needed "transcode" ? help!07:28
joe_how can i take a look at what is in sources.list07:29
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adwaitRQ: yeah......sorry..but i figured nobody noticed the first time.......so id send it again07:29
RQjoe_, use any text editor you like07:29
RQadwait, well, i think, it was noticed. :)07:29
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adwaitRQ: hmm07:30
RQwhat doesn't run?07:30
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adwaitRQ: well......i cant really find anything in the syslog......any ideas?07:32
zAo^dmesg?07:32
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adwaitRQ: i am trying to run a script07:33
RQwhere did you put it?07:33
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RQhow did you reference it to cron?07:33
adwait00 * * * * ./down07:33
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RQdoes it have an executable bit set? :)07:33
RQwhat is "./" ?;] 07:34
adwaitRQ: yes.........it runs normally, when i try to run it from the terminal07:34
RQenter full path there07:34
RQinstead of "./"07:34
joe_ok another issue07:34
joe_how do i log in as root07:34
adwaitRQ: the cron jobs just dont seem to get executed.........i even tried editing the root crontab and setup a reboot, nothing ever happened07:34
RQjoe_, sudo bash07:34
zAo^sudo -s07:34
adwaitjoe_: therss no root acc in ubuntu07:34
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zAo^same ;)07:34
RQyeah ;] 07:35
joe_cause i'd like to change the source.list07:35
joe_but don't have the permissions07:35
zAo^there is no password set, to be precise :)07:35
RQsudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list07:35
HappyFoolsudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ; enter your user password07:35
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RQdarn07:35
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zAo^or sudo passwd root :-$07:35
zAo^lol07:35
RQvim :)07:36
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adwaitRQ: well.....i tried entering the full path...but still nothing :(07:36
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RQadwait, well actually, i've never used the users crontab file07:37
RQso if you do so, i don't know what the problem might be07:37
adwaitok07:37
RQi always use the global crontab :)07:37
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HappyFooladwait: have you used cron before?07:38
RQ(that's because i'm too lame to learn and i'm a root)07:38
RQ:D07:38
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adwaitHappyFool: nope.......trying for the first time07:39
scenaman this thing reads like stereo instructions07:39
MarcCwhat's an alternative to gFTP?07:39
scenaim going to paw ovber this & come back with any questions ive got07:39
adwaitRQ: well......now i edited the global crontab....lets see if this works07:39
zAo^MarcC, there is a kftp :P07:39
RQadwait, i hope it's 755? :)07:39
adwaitRQ: :(........still nothing......cron job never rann07:39
RQcheck the syslog ;)07:40
zAo^;)07:40
adwaitRQ: 755?07:40
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RQexecutable07:40
MarcCzAo^, does it let you type in CHMOD numbers?07:40
RQand readable by everyone07:40
zAo^MarcC, oef; donno. Sorry. Otherwhise; use Nautilus ;)07:40
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HappyFooladwait: is cron running? 'pgrep cron' should tell you. (it ought to be)07:40
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RQyeah. i wonder about it too07:41
adwaitHappyFool: yes it is......pgrep gave me to PIDs07:41
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HappyFooltwo ?07:41
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joe_this isn't working07:41
ShadowUserOh my god.. My brother was on my comp again.07:41
ShadowUser>_<;07:41
adwaitRQ: hmm....../etc/crontab is not executable.....should i make it executable07:41
HappyFooljoe_: there are some pages on the wiki to help you with repositories07:41
adwait?07:41
HappyFooladwait: no07:42
RQno07:42
HappyFool!repositories07:42
ubotu[repositories]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto07:42
joe_i'm trying to add multiverse to my sources list07:42
ShadowUserHello friends.07:42
ShadowUserhehe..07:42
HappyFool!apt07:42
ubotuapt is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/07:42
adwaitHappyFool: yeah.......somehow there are two PIDs listed07:42
ShadowUserI finally got my ubuntu cds..07:42
HappyFooladwait: is it possible your script is blocking?07:42
ShadowUser6 weeks later. >_<;07:42
joe_thanx07:42
RQghm07:42
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ShadowUserIt's a great os07:42
adwaitHappyFool: i dont think so.......i mean the script runs fine when i normally run it, as a normal user07:42
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ShadowUserBut i prefer XP. :P07:43
adwaitwithout cron, just thry the terminal07:43
HappyFooladwait: how about 'pgrep <nameofyourscript>' ?07:43
SnuffkinI'm trying to boot the Ubuntu 5.04x86 livecd, X says 'no screens found', Radeon X800 PCIE.07:43
RQwow07:43
RQ:D07:43
RQjazz:/home/rq# pgrep cron |wc -l07:43
RQ3307:43
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ShadowUserWorked Perfectly for me07:43
RQadwait, try `ps aux |grep cron`07:44
ShadowUserGood old Radeon 7000. *hugs*07:44
HappyFoolhmm. i have 1 cron process07:44
adwaitHappyFool: nothing07:44
adwaitRQ: cron seems to be running07:44
RQHappyFool, i have 33 lines in `pgrep cron`;D07:44
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RQsenseless07:44
HappyFoolmaybe it's updatedb or some other system cron job07:44
RQadwait, /usr/sbin/cron?07:44
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qt2does anyone have any experience with intellimouses and/or tiltwheels?07:45
adwaitRQ: yes07:45
RQhm...07:45
RQcould it be that it's busy waiting for something else to finish?07:45
RQadwait, try restarting cron07:45
HappyFooladwait: i put this line in a file called 'simple', and ran 'crontab simple' -- now cron is e-mailing me a filelist every minute07:45
RQplus, use the full path to the script in crontab07:45
RQno "./"07:45
hacked`guys, in a README file, it says that i should enable the Crypto library support (CONFIG_CRYPTO) and the following algorythm: ARC4 cipher algorithm (CONFIG_CRYPTO_ARC4)   does that mean i have to verify this with menuconfig ? if so i can see that its set as <M> ARC4 cipher algorithm07:45
HappyFooladwait: the line is '* * * * * /bin/ls'07:46
adwaitRQ: i tried with the full path........still notjimg07:46
HappyFoolhacked`: i have a file /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/crypto/arc4.ko   -- it appears that ubuntu comes with that module compiled07:46
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adwaitHappyFool: well........the line i am using isnt too differnet......just one of the *s is replaced by 0007:47
HappyFooladwait: yeah, but that'll only happen every hour07:47
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HappyFooladwait: are you tweaking your clock to force it to run?07:47
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sdschulzeThe dependencies between libgmime-cil and libgmime2.1 seem broken in breezy.07:47
adwaitHappyFool: no......i am just setting the time for after a minute for testing07:47
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adwait19 * * * * adwait /bin/ls07:48
sinnloshat hier wer cedega ??07:48
sinnlosoh sorry07:48
adwaitHappyFool: i tried the above line.......still nothing happened07:48
HappyFoolwhat's the 'adwait' for?07:48
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adwaitthe username......i am edting the gloabal crontab now07:48
HappyFooldirectly?07:48
RQadwait, did you restart cron?07:49
hacked`happyfool, so basically everything in /lib/modules is already compiled ?07:49
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adwaitRQ: i have been facing this problem since yesterday........i hv shut down the pc since, so restarting cron isnt probably a solution07:50
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HappyFoolhacked`: well, all the .ko files have to have been compiled to be there. My point was that that particular module is included with ubuntu, so you don't need to build your own kernel / module to get it07:50
mpmc:)07:50
eikkehija07:51
eikkeI got a little problem. I got an ess1688 ISA card, which is not detected at boot time. I can modprobe the module fine though07:51
eikkeis there any modules.autoload file?07:51
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HappyFooleikke: /etc/modules07:52
eikkety07:52
h08817major problem here07:52
h08817anyone good with the insides of a computer?07:52
desrtuhm.  yes?07:53
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h08817ok07:53
h08817i turned on my computer today and it just buzzed for no reason i found out that it was the power supply i htink it is blown07:53
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Tomcat_Bad... :I07:54
h08817so anyway i swapped it with another power supply and a different case07:54
Tomcat_Just hope it didn't blow anything else.07:54
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h08817i "think" I hooked everything up right07:54
Tomcat_When my last PSU went kaboom, it took the RAM with it.07:54
joe_what should i do if i get sudo: gedit: command not found07:54
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h08817it tries to read the hd and it flashes and just sits there doesn't do a memory test or anything07:54
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HappyFooljoe_: oh, you're on kubuntu *oops*07:55
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desrtjoe_; use vi :)07:55
joe_yeah07:55
HappyFooljoe_: i think 'kate' might be in the default install07:55
HappyFooljoe_: 'sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list'07:55
desrth08817; maybe it wasn't the power supply that was bad07:55
GerriallHey guys I'm trying to get an Ubuntu partition active in my Grub.conf that was set up by CentOS 4.1. I have rootnoverify (hd0,1) and chainloader +1 , but I am missing something else to make it boot. Does anybody know what I'm missing?07:55
h08817then what could it be?07:55
desrth08817; or maybe it was more than just the PSU07:55
Tomcat_h08817: Then something important is broken... mainboard, memory, ram, graphics card.07:55
desrtmainboard?  memory?  cpu?07:55
desrtcould be almost anything :P07:55
Riddelljoe_: kdesu kate07:55
joe_as in sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list07:55
HappyFooljoe_: you can try vi, but it's a bit rough going for new users; if kate doesn't work, try 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'07:55
h08817graphics card is ok07:56
Tomcat_h08817: Take out the graphics card and disconnect all disks/drives... then try if it boots up with POST beep.07:56
desrth08817; take out everything except cpu, ram, vidcard07:56
Riddelljoe_: right click in Konqueror -> Edit as Root Action07:56
desrth08817; see if it will boot07:56
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pippijnhi all07:56
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desrth08817; if not, you know it's one of those... try replacing with known-good spares07:56
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desrth08817; else, start adding stuff back in until it breaks again07:56
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h08817ok07:56
pippijnthe meta package ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop are bloat07:56
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desrter?07:56
pippijncan I safely remove the meta packages and get rid of all that I think is bloat?07:57
h08817brb07:57
desrtpippijn; i'd recommend against it07:57
h08817 don't go anywhere please07:57
pippijndesrt: why is that?07:57
desrtpippijn; your system won't upgrade properly in the future07:57
pippijnhm07:57
desrtalthough, as long as you stay on hoary, you're probably ok07:57
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hmrochahello07:57
hmrochawhere can i get the shockware player?07:58
desrtbut if you ever try to use debfoster, life is gonna be considerably more miserable for you :)07:58
pippijndesrt: do you happen to know what kernel warty uses?07:58
desrt2.6.[old]  :)07:58
pippijnI see07:58
HappyFoolthey're empty afaik -- how are they bloat? They'll also provide a reasonable upgrade path07:58
pippijnand hoary is using?07:58
pippijn2.6.8?07:58
desrt2.6.1007:58
hondjewhat? debfoster and orphan rock07:58
pippijnah cool07:58
HappyFool2.6.8.1, i think; hoary 2.6.1007:58
desrthondje; ya.  debfoster rocks my world07:58
pippijnI like evms07:58
pippijnI have debian now07:58
desrthondje; except that it doesn't find pacakges sometimes07:58
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pippijnI had ubuntu for a while I have been jumping around really07:58
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desrthondje; like, sometimes deborphan will sniff out stuff that even debfoster -i doesn't find07:59
LuNaTiK^GuYhi ppl.....how can i install a new icon set in ubuntu gnome?07:59
pippijnevms doesn't work @ debian it seems07:59
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desrtLuNaTiK^GuY; apt-cache search gnome-icon-theme-07:59
hondjeI believe it, I use deborphan regularly after I get something built07:59
desrtoh.  wow.  there's actually not many of them :P07:59
hmrochai have flash installed, but not shockwave07:59
mpmcI'm never going back to Fedora Core!!!!!!!07:59
hondjeeven whipped up a little script with some awk for it07:59
desrtLuNaTiK^GuY; basically, you can download an icon theme from art.gnome.org or gnome-look.org07:59
hmrochai can't find a package with shockwave :(07:59
h08817desrt: problem still occurs07:59
hondjehmrocha: yell at macromedia to support it08:00
desrth08817; sorry to hear08:00
h08817desrt: i took out everything except for video and sound08:00
h08817and no bios08:00
h08817or memory test08:00
h08817any ideas?08:00
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hmrochahondje, there is no package?08:00
LuNaTiK^GuYyes i downloaded from gnome-look.org08:00
hondjenot last I checked08:00
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LuNaTiK^GuYbut i dont know how to install it....i have unpacked it08:00
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hondjemacromedia doesn't make shockwave for linux08:00
hmrochahondje, i'll send them an email then...08:00
desrtLuNaTiK^GuY; go to system -> preferences -> theme08:00
desrtLuNaTiK^GuY; don't unpack it :)08:00
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hacked`guys08:00
hacked`how do i apply a patch08:01
desrtLuNaTiK^GuY; then click [ + Install Theme ] 08:01
h08817it all started when i pulled my 2ndhd and left my main in and i disconnected the wires and swapped the wires for my 2nd hd to install ubuntu now today it died08:01
LuNaTiK^GuYwowwww08:01
desrtLuNaTiK^GuY; then give it the file08:01
LuNaTiK^GuYits easier than i thought! :)08:01
LuNaTiK^GuYthanks a lot desrt08:01
desrtLuNaTiK^GuY; you can even drag the link to the theme directly from firefox into the theme dialog box08:01
h08817later08:01
desrtLuNaTiK^GuY; saves you from having to download it08:01
HappyFoolhacked`: you can try reading 'man patch'08:02
mpmcAHHH!08:02
LuNaTiK^GuYinteresting stuff ;)08:02
pippijnI have a 4GB hard disc08:02
HappyFoolhacked`: or maybe 'patch --help'08:02
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hmrochahondje, i have submitted feedback on the shockwave download page08:02
pippijnis that enough for the entire ubuntu for a long time?08:03
duglas /leave08:03
hmrochahondje, there is a link on the page for feedback, i filled the form08:03
hondjegood deal08:03
hmrochahondje, they'll surely ignore me, but at least i tried08:03
hondjeI doubt they'll listen, people have been asking them for like 4 or 5 years, but the more complaints the better :)08:03
mpmc /kill08:03
mpmcoops08:03
mpmclol08:03
LuNaTiK^GuYthis is awesome :D i loooove ubuntu08:03
HappyFoolpippijn: i think the default install is ~ 1.8GB; i'm not sure if that includes swap (~ the size of your RAM)08:04
pippijnokay08:04
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pippijnbut for upgrades?08:04
mpmccomplain anout what?08:04
J_Phi all08:04
J_P#python08:04
mpmcabout*08:04
pippijnwhen the next x.06 is coming out08:04
pippijnor so08:04
J_Psorry08:04
pippijnx.07 or whatever08:04
mpmcof what lol08:04
pippijnwill it be enough then?08:04
mpmcubuntu?08:04
HappyFoolpippijn: next release is due in october; it will be called 5.1008:04
pippijnah08:04
HappyFoolpippijn: i'm not sure08:04
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Will_Stop asking me!08:06
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HappyFoolah crap, that test cron job is mailing me every minute08:07
chaps0063I'm having touchpad problems, the scroll up/down keys do not function properly, I gathered information from xev but I am unsure where to go from here.08:07
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dacotoanyone have a successful ubuntu install running on a g3 Blue & White?08:08
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EvilDinam is there need to be anything enable on router if you want to have ipv6 on my linux08:09
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EvilDini heard something about protocol 4108:09
EvilDinanyone know anything about that08:09
atevesonce again: does anyone know how to stop the auto resizing of icons in gnome panels when resizing the panel and can i use a start menu button with 256x128?08:10
RQEvilDin, ah08:10
RQhm08:10
p_mashquestion: does ubuntu come with mysql/php/apache ie all the stuff required for php dev ??08:11
mpmc#no08:11
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HappyFoolp_mash: afaik, you can install it all easily enough08:11
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mpmcyou'll need to install them.. and be careful at the ones you do install.08:11
HappyFool!lamp08:11
ubotumethinks lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary08:11
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mpmc!kill08:11
ubotuWish i knew, mpmc08:12
HappyFoolthat page may be of help; i don't know for sure08:12
mpmc!lol08:12
ubotumpmc: I don't know08:12
mpmc!lol08:12
chaps0063!help08:12
bufalo73hello08:12
mpmclol08:12
mpmc!help08:12
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chaps0063!lobotomy08:12
ubotuchaps0063: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:12
chaps0063I hate waiting for technical support..08:13
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h08817hey i'm back08:13
RQEvilDin, i had the following:08:13
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RQ/sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p ipv6 -j ACCEPT08:13
RQ/sbin/iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p ipv6 -j ACCEPT08:13
mpmc!lamp08:13
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary08:13
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h08817anyone good with the insides ofa computer08:14
h08817?08:14
chaps0063h08817: like?08:14
h08817ok08:14
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RQEvilDin, -p ipv6 makes protocol 41, i guess :)08:14
h08817i just reconnected everything and my bios won't recognize my hd08:14
Discipulush08817, depends, what's the problem08:14
chaps0063h08817: what else is on that IDE channel?08:14
h08817i checked the motherboard and the cables08:14
h08817nothing08:14
Lancellori tried to install xfce4 following this tutorial http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30896&page=2&pp=10  but i, having trouble08:14
Discipulush08817, you sure you connected everything properly?08:15
mpmc!help08:15
h08817i think so?08:15
chaps0063h08817: double check.08:15
h08817how can i be certain?08:15
mpmcphp can be found at http://php.net08:15
chaps0063h08817: check power to hdd, reset the bios (as long as you have no custom settings)08:15
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Discipulush08817, has it previously worked with that hd?08:15
mpmc!php08:15
ubotumpmc: Bugger all, i dunno08:15
yawa|QRLancellor, ?08:16
mpmclol08:16
Lancelloryes08:16
mpmcWhats everyone doing08:16
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chaps0063I'm on hold with technical support.08:16
poningruchaps0063: what'd you need help with?08:16
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chaps0063poningru: with symantec...stupid windows products.08:16
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yawa|QRLancellor, what problems can you face while apt-getting? :D08:16
magnus__hi... just got hoary installed on my tablet pc, toshiba m200, and it works fine - but how can I make the on-screen keyboard (xvkbd) show swedish layout, not english?08:17
chaps0063magnus__: you have the tablet working?08:17
h08817you guys are great08:17
h08817it works now08:17
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chaps0063h08817: what was it?08:17
apollo2011What programs are there for Linux that will automatically connect to open Wi-Fi networks and more easily allow connections to encrypted wireless networks more like the way in WinXP?08:17
h08817i pulled the ide cable from the motherboard and reattached it08:18
mpmc!search php08:18
ubotuWish i knew, mpmc08:18
magnus__chaps0063, yep, got the wacom up and running a few hours ago08:18
h08817maybe it wasn't snug08:18
mpmc:s08:18
chaps0063magnus__: hmm..i have a fujitsu t4010d, no working..08:18
h08817u guys have no clue what i went thru today for htat computer08:18
mpmcwell tell us08:18
h08817first the power supply blew it just buzzed when it started08:18
mpmcOh..08:18
magnus__chaps0063, just had to replace the wacom_drv.o and edit xorg.conf, and set the serial port08:18
PurpleBluI am looking for Laptop disassebly help, dont know where to go?  can anyone help or point me in right direction?08:19
mpmcever had one of those blow up in your face lol08:19
h08817then i had to switch cases so i had to like rebuild the computer which i never did before08:19
chaps0063hmm...how do i find out all this..08:19
magnus__chaps0063, know about how to set keymap in on-screen keyboard?08:19
Lancellorwhen i type this sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core xfce4 synaptic gnome-sudo gdm acpi acpid powermanagement-interface mozilla-firefox the following packages have unmet dependencies and gives me all xfce4 dependencies08:19
h08817i did have my powersupply blow up in my face08:19
chaps0063magnus__: no idea...sorry.08:19
h08817i stuck a screw driver in it and it popped power was off08:19
mpmcLOL08:19
h08817but anyway i learned how to build a computer from scratch today w00t08:19
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magnus__chaps0063, how far have you come in getting your tablet to work?08:20
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mpmcDid you know manuals do help :P08:20
mebaran151is breezy installable yet08:20
mpmclol08:20
sinfernohey there is a program to make an .img file from a bin and i forgot waht it was08:20
chaps0063magnus__: haven't done anything yet..08:20
mebaran151I need to do some Mono.net work08:20
sinfernodoes anyone know08:20
h08817mpmc: no i didn't have a manual at the time08:20
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mebaran151and Breezy is the only place to do it08:20
sinfernoahhhhhhhhhhhhhh08:20
mpmcOh.. lol08:20
mebaran151I also want to go about fixing bugs, but I really really really need X08:20
Frafrachecking for OpenGL library... no08:20
Frafraconfigure: error: Couldn't find opengl libraries or headers08:20
Frafrawhy?08:20
magnus__chaps0063, i can recommend the howto at linux wacom site, it really helped me08:20
chaps0063magnus__: can you link me.08:20
sinfernoanyone remember the program to make a img from a bin?08:20
h08817chaps0063: but my comp is up and running maybe i'll try to install ubuntu once again and hope it works08:20
h08817last night the install died08:21
mpmcPlease don't say my name at the beginning.. It's annoying08:21
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h08817ok deal08:21
mpmcI wish I new how to turn that sound off08:21
h08817it said files were already on the hd that it wanted to install so it died08:21
h08817i do it no u08:21
chaps0063magnus__: I am going to read this howto..08:21
h08817i type a couple letters of ur name and hit tab and then it beeps u08:22
magnus__chaps0063, http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/main08:22
joe_could you please remind me where i can download JRE from the Ubuntu wiki08:22
desrtjoe_; did you search for "java"?08:22
joe_i believe there's a link, please point me in the right direction08:22
HappyFoolsinferno: maybe 'bchunk' ?08:22
h08817how do u delete things from ubuntu like stuff u don't need i am a complete noob08:22
HappyFool!java08:22
frank_!java08:22
ubotusomebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.08:22
chaps0063as far as I've seen, I haven't see any notes that the tablet was working on a lifebook t401008:22
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sinfernoHappyFool, YES thank you08:22
h08817also does the server install come with the word processing?08:22
h08817or do i have to install that later on08:22
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h08817limited space on my hd08:23
chaps0063magnus__: how do I figure out which serial port its on.08:23
joe_Cheers for that08:23
HappyFoolh08817: if you mean openoffice, i doubt it will be installed by default08:23
magnus__anyone knows how to change keymap (to swedish) in on-screen keyboard?08:23
mpmcIt is installed ny default on Ubuntu08:23
magnus__chaps0063, i found out via the web...:)08:23
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HappyFoolh08817: in the server install, i mean08:23
mpmcnot in the server install08:23
magnus__chaps0063, normally it seems to be /dev/ttyS0 on a tablet PC08:23
mebaran151when is X going to be fixed in Breezy?08:24
magnus__there is a utility in the wacom-package that helps to identify, or test at least08:24
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mpmcwhat are tablet PC's anyway..?08:24
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mpmca Brick with a screen?08:24
magnus__tablet PC = PC where you type and draw on the screen.....08:24
mpmclol08:24
goldeehi folks08:25
chaps0063magnus__: how do I get information from /dev/ttyS008:25
goldeei need help :P08:25
klaymtablet PC: a laptop with extremely dirty display08:25
mpmcyes.. but what features do the have... 5mhz proesser lol08:25
mpmclol08:25
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chaps0063actually mine has a 1.608:25
chaps0063:-)08:25
mpmcnice.. very expensive08:25
magnus__chaps0063, setserial -a /dev/yS0, shows current settings for instance08:25
goldeewhich program allows me to watch tv on ubuntu (i have tv tuner)08:25
chaps0063magnus__: need to install that..08:26
mpmcI want a TV Tuner..08:26
mpmclol08:26
goldee:D08:26
DaSkreechCan You install a new OS on a tablet PC?08:26
magnus__yes, setserial is needed and handy..08:26
mpmc;)08:26
magnus__DaSkreech, i just installed Ubuntu on mine....08:26
goldeedoes anybody knows?08:26
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DaSkreechmagnus__: Does it depend on the Type of tablet PC08:27
chaps0063DaSkreech: I have mine dual booting..08:27
scenaOk; is there an "idiots guide to routing" somewhere?08:27
DaSkreechI know you have ones that convert from laptop to tablet08:27
snouptcss!info muine08:27
ubotumuine: (Simple playlist based music player), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8.2-5ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 246 kB, Installed size: 1228 kB08:27
magnus__DaSkreech, not more than for pc:s generally, i believe08:27
DaSkreechmagnus__: Ah Ok then :-)08:27
zenlunaticwould ubuntu run well on 200mhz machine?08:27
goldeeok byebye08:28
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DaSkreechzenlunatic: Try Ubuntu LIte08:28
zenlunaticDaSkreech: X wouold probably bet the biggest problem don't you think?08:28
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chaps0063what is the equivalent to /etc/init.d/boot.local in ubuntu?08:29
Dr_WillisUbuntu Lite? Less Filling? Tastes Great?08:29
klaym0% fat08:29
DaSkreechzenlunatic: Gnome pulls a lot of resources as well08:29
scenalartc.org is too much information to me. is there anything simpler to read on basic linux routing08:29
DaSkreechX has run pretty well on old machines :)08:30
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ompaulDr_Willis, 33% less calories than a Ubuntu with skype lashed all over it08:30
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Whistleri have installed flightgear via sudo apt-get install08:30
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Dr_Willisskype. :P i dont use that.08:30
Dr_Willislol08:30
Whistlerbut i dont know how to run it08:31
zenlunaticDaSkreech: I think I might just stick with a non-X system on it.08:31
DaSkreechzenlunatic: Thats fine08:31
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ompaulDr_Willis, it is an unfortunate thing that lots of people do, and it aint the best in terms of interoperability afik, it must die and I must use asterisk but that is for another day08:32
zenlunaticWhistler: try flightgear08:33
Whistleri have installed flightgear via sudo apt-get install so how can i run it?08:33
Dr_Willisompaul,  lol :P i recall ages ago useing that dialpad.com site for free (with ads) phone calls.08:33
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Whistlerflightgear doesnt work08:33
Whistler=[08:33
zenlunaticWhistler: try finding the binary and using the absolute path08:33
h08817HappyFool: can i install openoffice on server if i have enough space?08:33
zenlunaticWhistler: should be in /usr somewhere08:33
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h08817HappyFool: and would hte package already be on my hd or would it be on the cd?08:33
HappyFoolh08817: probably -- you'll need at least X as well too08:33
snouptcss!ifno flighgear08:33
ubotuNo idea, snouptcss08:33
HappyFoolh08817: it will be on the cd, afaik08:34
snouptcss!info flightgear08:34
ubotuflightgear: (Flight Gear Flight Simulator), section universe/games, is extra. Version: 0.9.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1589 kB, Installed size: 4508 kB08:34
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atevesgdesklets is definitely crap08:34
h08817ok bb when i plan on installing it since i have no clue how to install anything08:34
snouptcssataves: it didn't used to be08:34
h08817my hands are tied now with linux08:34
h08817i am on windows atm08:34
snouptcssataves: i think they're havign major issues with it right now08:34
snouptcssoops08:34
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snouptcssateves: *08:35
atevessnouptcss: i can't get something going08:35
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atevesalways errors in sensors08:35
atevesor whatever08:35
tritiumWhistler, "dpkg -L flightgear" to list the files.  The executable is likely under /usr/games somewhere.08:35
snouptcsstritium: i didn' tknow you coudl do that!!08:35
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snouptcssoh, the time to be saved...08:36
tritiumsnouptcss, you learn something every day :)08:36
snouptcsshehe08:36
scena"Routing for Dummies", anyone know of one?08:36
snouptcssno, i learn fortysoemthigns new every day08:36
Dr_Willishttp://www.google.com/search?q=Routing+for+Dummies08:36
scenadr_willis: lol08:36
scenaquick! to the internet!08:37
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scena*does the Superfriends thing with the IE logo08:37
Dr_Willisactually im suprised amazon dosent have a book by that name.08:37
Whistlerhttp://pastebin.com/317207 any ideas how to run it?08:38
ivan_qkanybody here knows how to use wine?08:38
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Dr_WillisWhistler,  one of the binaries in /usr/games08:38
mpmcHi, Can anyone tell me out I auto start a service on logon?08:38
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mpmchow*08:38
ivan_qki need to run starcraft online08:38
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mpmc!help08:39
Dr_WillisWhistler, /usr/lib/menu/flightgear  -- means that it will have an icon also. :P08:39
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laughlini am a long time gentoo user what is ubuntu like in comparison08:39
mpmcwhere can I fine php08:39
Dr_Willisivan_qk,  wine, or cedega can do that I belive.08:39
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Dr_Willislaughlin,  much less hassle :P faster install..08:39
zenlunatichow do i find the dpi of my lcd?08:39
WhistlerDr_Willis i still cant find how to run it?08:39
tritiumWhistler, read some of the documentation listed there under /usr/share/doc/flightgear08:39
mpmcdamm bot08:39
ivan_qkyes, i can run starcraft on wine, but video is slowly and i cant play online08:40
Dr_WillisWhistler,  perhaos its time to read the docs and check the homepage - or see what  /usr/lib/menu/flightgear is set up to run.08:40
tritiumWhistler, particularly the README.Debian and the README.running.gz08:40
laughlinDr_Willis: how is the package managment system?08:40
mpmcHow do I start a service on Boot!08:40
Dr_Willislaughlin,  its the 'apt-get' methid. :P works very very well.08:40
qt2...is there a way to modify waht the gnome keyboard shortcuts do?08:40
laughlinah08:40
tritiumqt2, yes, there's a configuration applet08:40
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ompaullaughlin, apt-get aptitude and synaptic kewl stuff08:40
laughlinis it as good as portage08:41
tritiummpmc, the initscripts are in /etc/init.d/08:41
poningrulaughlin: yes08:41
laughlini'll have to give it a try then08:41
poningruif you want something to compile you can use apt-build08:41
zenlunaticlaughlin: what does portage have to do with anything?08:41
tritiumlaughlin, it's more mature than portage08:41
laughlinpackage managment08:41
mpmcqt2: goto System->Prefs->Keyboard08:41
scenathis is becoming too difficult. i should just find a linux on floppy router.08:41
zenlunaticlaughlin: stop tossing flaimebait08:41
poningruscena: what are you trying to do?08:41
laughlin?08:41
ompaullaughlin, go do it, you will enjoy it08:41
laughlini will08:42
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laughlinwhat is flaimbait?08:42
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scenaponiguru: all i want to do is to create a basic router to go between a 10 series IP and a 12 series IP08:42
scenawe've got a windows2000 box doing it now, and i want to remove it & put a linux one in08:42
scenabut i can't find any clear information on how to do this08:42
poningruhmm I would say use something like bsd08:42
poningruI dont think ubuntu is good for that job08:43
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laughlincoyote linux is great for routers check it out!08:43
poningrubut then again I have never done anything like that08:43
jasoncohenlaughlin, apt-get and aptitude are both very powerful package management tools and synaptic is by far the best gui tool for installing/removing packages. it supports every advanced feature you might want like holding a package at a particular version, forcing the install or downgrade of a particular version of a package, viewing dependencies, reverse dependencies, descriptions, changelogs, changing repositories - everything08:43
poningruyeah coyote is good for that as well08:43
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qt2mpmc, i believe you mean System->Prefs->Keyboard Shortcuts...08:43
mpmcyes08:43
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scenai figured since im trying to pick a uniform distro i'd stick with ubuntu08:43
qt2mpmc, and i know about those already, i was wondering if there is a way to edit what those shortcuts DO.08:43
butzalguien usa XFCE ?08:43
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scenabut perhaps you are right08:43
poningruyeah just read the docs08:44
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ompaulscena, what do you want to do, create a router?08:44
poningruI think fbsd has pretty good ones08:44
qt2mpmc, for example, the volume up/down controls the master volume, i want it to control the PCM volume...08:44
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tritiumqt2, change them08:44
scenaponi: i read the LARTC doc. ands its way too much at once08:44
poningruhehe yeah08:44
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laughlincool thanks08:44
qt2tritium, how?08:44
scenaponi: i just need somethnig simple08:44
h08817how do u install things from a cd or a floppy (just for future reference noob here)08:44
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scenaponi: and i also figured it'd be good to learn as well08:44
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Dr_Willish08817,  depends on the 'things'08:45
mumblesi think that this channel should be on x-chats defult list if someone can do that?08:45
h08817ok well i am installing ubntu with a server install08:45
mumblesi know freenodes already there08:45
poningrumumbles: it is08:45
h08817and i am not sure after it is installed if it will have openoffice08:45
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h08817so i wanna know how to install openoffice08:45
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laughlinscena: the best linux distro for routing is coyote linux also check out this site http://www.routerdesign.com/index.php08:45
poningruscena: I dont know of such a howto or tutorial08:45
jasoncohenh08817, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org08:45
scenai dont need DNS, or DHCP. just routing.,08:45
jasoncohenh08817, it's already installed - or should be08:46
h08817ok what is sudo i see it everywhere but don't get it08:46
jasoncohenh08817, it's part of ubuntu-desktop.08:46
h08817jasoncohen: i am installing server though08:46
Snargledorfhow do i access my floppy drive from an ubuntu live cd?08:46
D1does anyone know what font this is?08:46
D1http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=26678&file1=26678-1.png&file2=26678-2.jpg&file3=26678-3.jpg&name=ish08:46
jasoncohenh08817, sudo allows you to gain administrative access by entering your user password. it's an alternative to having a root account08:46
jasoncohenh08817, why do you want openoffice on a server?08:46
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h08817jasoncohen: no regular install i have limited disk space08:46
h08817so sudo means superuserdo08:46
h08817why do i have to use that08:46
h08817i don't have to tell it a location?08:47
ompaulscena this may be of help, in truth learning iptables helps a lot with routing  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers.php?action=viewarticle&artid=2308:47
jasoncohenh08817, if you want openoffice then you'll need a window manager and X08:47
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jasoncohenh08817, no, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org will do the install for you08:47
jasoncohenyou don't have to tell it anything elese08:47
Sputn1khow to change local language?08:47
jasoncohen*else08:47
h08817well my hd isn't  big enough for a normal install i just want to play around with linux08:47
jasoncohenSputn1k, choose the language you want in gdm08:47
jasoncohenh08817, how big is your HD?08:47
scenagoddamit i cant copy the link08:47
scenai HATE having to telnet irc08:48
h08817463mb08:48
mumblesbash: ./jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin: /bin/sh: b ad interpreter: Text file busy08:48
mumbles?08:48
jasoncohenh08817, have you tried the live cd?08:48
h08817it just clears the install08:48
jasoncohenactually, you probably wouldn't have enough ram08:48
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h08817i downloaded the image and burned it to cd it boots to it08:48
TerminXh08817: in a world where a 320 gig drive costs less than $150, I don't think "my hd isn't big enough" is a valid excuse anymore, heh08:48
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ivan_qkanybody know what is the command for file-manager?08:48
Sputn1khmm i get: error gdm is allready started08:48
jasoncohenTerminX, i purchased 2 160 GB seagates for $50 each08:48
Dr_Willisivan_qk,  what file manager? thers dozens of them08:48
h08817wow terminX08:49
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TerminXsee, there you go08:49
h08817well i kinda don't wanna have to wait 3 weeks to get it in the mail08:49
TerminXdrives are cheap08:49
jasoncoheni have a 450 GB LVM and 100 GB of system storage08:49
TerminXand it doesn't take 3 weeks to get something in the mail08:49
TerminXmore like 3 DAYS08:49
h08817from?08:49
h08817newegg?08:49
jasoncohenoutpost08:49
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TerminXoutpost sucks08:49
jasoncohenoutpost has great deals08:49
TerminXnever buy there08:49
ubuntuhello to all08:49
h08817pricewatch?08:49
jasoncohenthey always have good rebates and i've always gotten great service08:49
pavkaHi all08:49
qt2tritium, how?08:49
h08817where?08:49
jasoncohenthey mail same day08:49
ompaulall us locations are no use to some people08:49
hacked`guys, im reading an INSTALL and it says to create file in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ called ifcfg-eth2, but there is no such directory in ubuntu08:49
ivan_qkDr_Willis is not for me, it is for a friend,08:50
ubuntuone question08:50
jasoncohenh08817, where do you live?08:50
Sputn1khow can i startd gdm???08:50
h08817US08:50
TerminXjasoncohen: I ordered something they listed as in stock, they kept me on backorder for 2 months then canceled it without asking me08:50
ompaulhacked`, what are you trying to install?08:50
h08817TerminX: so who do u buy from?08:50
hacked`my wifi driver08:50
TerminXnewegg or monarchcomputer typically08:50
hacked`ompaul my wifi driver08:50
jasoncohenh08817, look at the seagate drives on outpost. there are many great deals with $40 and $50 mail in rebates that'll allow you to get a 160 GB HD for $50 or a 200 GB for $70!08:50
h08817ok08:50
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ompaulhacked`,  is there a driver for Debian?08:50
jasoncohenTerminX, i've ordered a lot from then- never had a problem08:50
h08817TerminX: what is a good type of drive maxtor?08:50
poningruhacked`: if its a win driver then it wont install on here08:51
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poningruerr on ubuntu08:51
TerminXthey have a less than 5 out of 10 rating for the past 6 months on resellerratings, jasoncohen08:51
TerminXthey're shit08:51
hacked`its the ipw2100 driver08:51
TerminXyou got lucky08:51
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DanielHolthHi anyone here using ppp over bluetooth on Ubuntu?08:51
h08817then use?08:51
tritiumqt2, I'm looking for the setting where you can choose whether the volume controls affect the master vs. PCM08:51
TerminXh08817: I prefer WD, but they're all about the same in terms of reliability and speed these days08:51
jasoncohenh08817, lol- i would go with seagate. they have the highest rating for drive reliability that i've seen. maxtor has had some issues08:51
hacked`ompaul, i just compiled it and stuff and its loaded, i just have to put stuff like DEVICE=eth2  ONBOOT=yes  BOOTPROTO=dhcp  TYPE=Wireless in a file08:51
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pavkacan anyone help me? I need use as default compiler gcc-3.4 but not gcc-3.3 How I can change it? in alternatives i cant find it.08:51
jasoncohenh08817, but it's personal choice. WD caviar are good as well08:51
h08817ok thanks later08:51
TerminXseagates are okay.. longer warranty but not as fast, heh08:51
TerminXthat guy was kind of an ass08:52
tritiumqt2, do you run the volume applet?08:52
jasoncohenTerminX, what guy?08:52
jasoncohenh08817?08:52
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TerminXyes08:52
jasoncohenbtw, a 160 GB drive won't even work on his hardware08:52
jasoncohenhe'll need a new IDE controller08:52
tritiumTerminX, please be mindful of the code of conduct, and try not to say anything too insulting08:52
TerminXhe has PCI slots doesn't he?08:52
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abt08:53
jasoncohenyeah, so he'll need a new IDE controller08:53
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jasoncohenprobably should just get a new PC if it's that old- has to be 10 years +08:53
quique#ubuntu-es08:53
tritiumqt2, you can select with the volume control applet which device and track to control08:53
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TerminXtritium: saying someone is an ass is probably as far as I'd go in this channel, don't worry about it ;p08:53
ubuntucan anyone tellme how can i install from a live cd the Ubuntu on hard drive08:53
tritiumTerminX, thanks08:53
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frank_ubuntu you need the install cd08:54
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ubuntubut the cd dont have a install option only boot08:54
Dr_Willisubuntu,  cant be done at this time.08:54
ompaulhacked`, still trying to find some docs online - I know I am close to the one you need08:54
ubuntuto linux08:54
HappyFoolpavka: try specifying the compile command as gcc-3.4; i think 'make CC=gcc-3.4' might work, for instance08:54
djphi all. is the only answer to the unexpected end of stream error between songs when playing streaming radio through rhythmbox, the installation of xmms?08:54
pavkaHappyFool: I cannot specify it for future?08:54
jasoncohendo you actually need gcc-3.3? can't he just remove gcc-3.3. that'll ensure 3.4 is used08:55
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zAo^otherwise try `CC=gcc-3.4 ; make08:55
HappyFoolpavka: i don't know how; I'm just suggesting a solution08:55
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qt2tritium, i have, the volume control applet uses the pcm of my alsa mixer.08:55
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pavkaHappyFool: for my problem is it good solution, but i think is it job for alternatives08:55
soultakerother question if a copy the live cd on a hard drive that installation will work ?.08:55
qt2tritium, however, the volume controls via the keyboard shorcuts still use master, which doesn't work at all with my sound card.08:56
Dr_Willissoultaker,  not likely.08:56
poningrusoultaker: dude no08:56
HappyFoolpavka: try jasoncohen's idea (remove gcc-3.3)08:56
soultakerthank you08:56
pavkaHappyFool: :) tnx08:56
tritiumqt2, really?  I don't get that behavior here.08:56
poningrusoultaker: what you are saying is planned for the next release08:56
soultakerother question how can I install linux and Windows 98 on the same hard drive08:56
poningrusoultaker: dual boot08:57
soultakeri just download this release and love it08:57
poningrudo you already have win98 installed?08:57
jasoncohenremoving gcc-3-3 will take out   build-essential g++ g++-3.3 gcc gcc-3.3 libstdc++5-3.3-dev08:57
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ateveshow can i copy a complete folder in the console?08:57
soultakeryes all reedy have window 9808:57
mastaYodahi all08:57
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mastaYodaI'm new to ubuntu and I have a small problem with breezy08:57
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ompaulhacked`, have a look at this all the way to the bottom of the page http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27705.html08:57
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djphi all. is the only answer to the unexpected end of stream error between songs when playing streaming radio through rhythmbox, the installation of xmms?08:57
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qt2tritium, , do you use the master slider by default?08:58
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mastaYodaThere seems to be no mkfontdir which results in a broken xorg-x1108:58
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tritiumateves, cp -R (or -r, or --recursive) .  "man cp" for more details.08:58
poningrusoultaker: hold on let me get the link08:58
jasoncohennevermind, you just need a gcc version installed08:58
tritiumqt2, yes08:58
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soultakerthank you ponigru08:58
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jasoncohenpavka, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.408:58
q[merlyn] Just tried PPC Live on my Al powerbook (2005 model), and got no keyboard or trackpad response.  Expected?08:58
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jasoncohenpavka, sudo apt-get remove gcc-3.408:58
soultakerthank you poningru08:58
jasoncohenpavka, and make sure you have build-essential08:59
poningruhttp://www.sysresccd.org/08:59
poningrusoultaker: thats the link08:59
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tritiumqt2, you're right.  Even changing it to PCM doesn't work.08:59
qt2tritium, thats why you dont have the problem, the shortcut defaults to master, try setting your volume control to pcm, the volume control will use pcm, but the shortcuts will still use master.08:59
poningruuse that to partition your hd08:59
q[merlyn] Makes it a bit hard to try anything. :)08:59
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tritiumqt2, yeah, just did08:59
qt2tritium, which is REALLY annoying.08:59
soultakerthank you poningru let me takea look08:59
tritiumqt2, I wonder if there's a gconf setting anywhere...08:59
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qt2tritium, looking right now.09:00
mastaYodaThere is nobody who can help me?09:00
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Eric___Hi all, looking for WIFI drivers and install tutorials...any help here?09:00
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djpanyone know if there has been a fix for the unexpected end of stream problem when playing back ogg streams under rhythmbox?09:00
q[merlyn] No idea on the PPC Live?09:00
pepsiheh... and im looking for NDISWrapper info :)09:00
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wrtpeepshi, i was wondering if anyone was able to tell me why i get this error trying to make procps: http://pastebin.com/31722409:01
jasoncohenEric___, have you searched the ubuntu wiki and google for your wireless card?09:01
q[merlyn] Anyplace else I should look or ask?09:01
tritiumqt2, sorry about that09:01
qt2tritium, about what?09:01
soultakerwell time to read09:01
Sputn1khow to kill gdm process?09:01
tritiumqt2, telling you wrong09:02
soultakerthank for the help to all09:02
qt2Sputn1k, killall -9 gdm09:02
mastaYodaSputn1k: killall gdm?09:02
HappyFoolSputn1k: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'09:02
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qt2tritium, no problem, you didnt know.09:02
D1how do I install fonts with gnome?09:02
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qt2tritium, and i see no refrence to master anywhere in any of the 'binding' settings09:02
Eric___jason , no but I will now09:03
Sputn1khow to change local language?09:03
tritiumqt2, yeah, I poked around in gconf and in the keyboard shortcuts capplet too.  :(09:03
wrtpeepsanyone recognise that error?09:03
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Derreckwrtpeeps, You need to install the ncurses devel package.09:04
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Sputn1khow to change local language???09:05
Derreckwrtpeeps, libncurses5-dev09:05
tritiumwrtpeeps, if you "apt-cache search ncurses | grep dev" you'll see it09:05
wrtpeepsok, thanks09:05
wrtpeepsis that all?09:05
djpanyone know if there has been a fix for the unexpected end of stream problem when playing back ogg streams under rhythmbox?09:05
qt2tritium, take it you didnt find anything either?09:05
tritiumqt2, nope, sorry09:05
qt2blah.09:06
Sputn1kwere i can change local language???09:06
tritiumSputn1k, please quit repeating09:06
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Sputn1kquit? Maybie stop?09:06
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Derreckwrtpeeps, should be.09:06
wrtpeepsThe following packages have unmet dependencies:09:07
wrtpeeps  conky: Depends: x-window-system but it is not going to be installed09:07
tritiumSputn1k, same thing09:07
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Sputn1kso somebody give my an answer09:07
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wrtpeepswhen i try to apt-get x-window-system, i get another big list09:07
wrtpeepsif i try to get those, i get they need x-window-system09:07
wrtpeepslike a big circle that just keeps going round09:07
tritiumSputn1k, there are more considerate ways to ask for help than demanding09:07
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Sputn1kgive me example09:08
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q[merlyn] ahh. I'm not the only person with the problem - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2174209:08
drew3Sputn1k,  Got to the control center And choose Regional09:08
q[merlyn] Should have read that before I wasted a DVD. :(09:08
Sputn1kwhere i can found "control center"09:08
mumbles Gmail is temporarily unavailable. Cross your fingers and try again in a few minutes. We are sorry for the inconvenience.09:08
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mumbles:(09:08
Derreckwrtpeeps, Sorry I don't know about that stuff.09:08
HappyFoolwrtpeeps: conky is not an ubuntu-provided package, so you may be on your own trying to satisfy dependencies09:09
wrtpeepsthanks anyway :)09:09
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wrtpeepsyea, ok thanks09:09
jbm_Hey, I just got an amd64 and installed hoary on it. But apparently cool'n'quiet doesn't seem to be supported. powernowd just says frequency scaling isn't supported. I've checked that c'n'q is enabled in the BIOS. Shouldn't it work?09:09
drew3Sputn1k, look for the control center in main Application Menus09:09
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ptlomumbles: works for me. you must've hit it in the wrong microsecond :)09:09
mumblesits saying that for about 5 minits now09:09
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ptlostrange, i'm using it at this moment and it works normally for me09:10
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mumblesmust be the fact that i tried to download the messages uising evalution with the wrong settings09:10
serenhay09:10
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serencan i connect to a another pc running linux (ubuntu) from this pc also running ubuntu09:11
seren?09:11
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mumblesany ideas what this is oging on about  bash: ./jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Text file busy09:11
laughlinyes use ssh09:11
serenssh?09:11
HappyFoolseren: how do you want to connect? what do you want to do?09:11
sereni want to use the ternimal09:11
laughlin"secure shell"09:11
tritiummumbles, you should build a .deb from the .bin, rather that installing it directly09:11
laughlinsame thing09:11
laughlintype "ssh -l <username> <IP or Hostname>"09:12
serenk09:12
laughlinof remote computer09:12
HappyFoolseren: if you want a remote terminal, laughlin's solution is probably what you want. you'll need to install the openssh-server package on the server machine09:12
sereni c09:12
serenthanksd09:13
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serenthanks alot09:14
serenpz09:14
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laughlinadios09:14
MrGardenHoseManwhat's the comand to make a new directory?09:14
q[merlyn] mkdir09:14
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MrGardenHoseManand does ubuntu already come with java instaled?09:14
MrGardenHoseManthx09:14
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hacked`guys09:15
hacked`I've got my WLAN drivers installed and working. How do I automate the loading and configuring at boot?09:15
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gsuvegre09:15
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gsuveganybody use php+sqlite on hoary ?09:15
Fanskapethacked`, via ndiswrapper?09:16
atlas95how to installe web service on beagle?09:16
gsuvegFatal error: Call to undefined function: sqlite_exec() in ... its not sound good09:16
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tritiumMrGardenHoseMan, no, thanks to Sun's licensing scheme.09:16
tritium!java09:16
ubotujava is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.09:16
tritiummumbles, ^^^09:16
gsuveganybody have idea ?09:16
Kyral!flash09:16
uboturumour has it, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:16
TouruDoes anyone know how a key might randomly stop working? my m is suddenly not doing anything. (I'm pasting it in here)09:16
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hacked`fanskapet, dont confuse me09:16
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MrGardenHoseManwell that's just dandy09:18
Fanskapethacked`, ehm well i don't09:18
AlexBOhello!I wanna use VMware to install windows 2k on my ubuntu (i hate it, but i need it for an old printer that is not supported).I put into the win 2k cd: when it makes the boot, it doesn't find any bootable cd and it trays to boot with the net.so i tried to put into a live cd of linux, and it works! how can it be? how can i make to install win 2k with vmware on linux?09:18
Fanskapethacked` how did you install your wlan-drivers?09:18
tritiumMrGardenHoseMan, did you see the wiki page howto I had ubotu show you?09:18
hacked`fnaskaet, with source files09:18
hacked`guys09:19
Fanskapethacked` yes but with what? :)09:19
hacked`how can i run a shell script on boot up09:19
Fanskapetndiswrapper?09:19
Fanskapetndiswrapper.sourceforge.net ?09:19
iobosssomebody used cedega?09:19
MrGardenHoseManlooking at it right now09:19
hacked`fanskapet, i got them from ipw2100.sf.net09:19
iobossquery me09:19
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mpmc!php09:19
ubotumpmc: Are you smoking crack?09:19
Big_Ough09:19
Fanskapetahh got my ubuntu cd's from the shipit site today :P09:19
mpmc:s09:19
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hacked`fanskapet, anyways how can i run a .sh script on boot up ?09:19
hacked`fanskapet, how many cds09:19
tritiumSputn1k, did you get it resolvd?09:20
mpmc!help09:20
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tritiumdrew3, I assume the control center you were referring to is a KDE thing?09:20
AlexBOHALO?09:21
Fanskapethacked`, sorry not used that driver.. i just ndiswrapper to load my drivers.. and just put it as a module09:21
Fanskapethacked`, 3009:21
Fanskapetthree of them is "mine" though09:21
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hacked`fanskapet, 27 in the garbage ?09:21
Fanskapetthe rest is for my buddies09:21
hacked`k09:21
hacked`fanskapet, anyways how can i run a .sh script on boot up ?09:21
Sputn1ktritium nop09:21
MrGardenHoseManwhat's Ubuntu PPC?09:21
HappyFoolhacked`: you can maybe add a call to the script in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh09:22
Bubbling_ZombieMrGardenHoseMan, ubuntu for macintosheseseses09:22
MrGardenHoseManlol09:22
tritiumMrGardenHoseMan, PowerPC09:22
TouruWhere does X's keyboard configuration live? Not the stuff in system--> preferences, something more detailed.09:22
thechitowncubsI'm trying to get my xbox tunneling application started through a menu launcher but i can't get it to work, i can only get it to work if i launch it in the console, can you tell me what is wrong with this script... sudo killall -9 kaid09:22
thechitowncubssleep 209:22
thechitowncubsgnome-terminal -e "sudo kaid"09:22
thechitowncubssleep 309:22
MrGardenHoseManthey have those now...09:22
thechitowncubsjavaws /opt/jkaiui/jKaiUI.jnlp09:22
AndyR_is there any way to do a slide show of jpegs in hoary like in xp?09:23
HappyFoolTouru: at a guess, /etc/X11/xkb/09:23
Big_O/dev/sda2       /media/backupvfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000   0       0 << am i mounting this right to get read/write access on a fat32 partition?09:23
djpok, for anyone with the same problem as myself, which will basically be anyone using rhythmbox to playback streaming ogg feeds, the problem is rhythmbox uses spider which it shouldn't. i gather this will be or has been fixed in the next/latest cvs release09:23
Fanskapethacked` from what i can see you only need to put "ipw2100" in your /etc/modules09:24
Fanskapetbut im not sure.09:24
TouruAh, thanks, HappyFool.09:24
mpmc$this->$this->$this = $this;09:24
tritiummpmc, ?09:24
mpmcGah!09:24
mpmcPlease dont do that09:24
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La_PaRCaHello. In warty I could use Applications:/// in nautilus to edit the applications menu. How can I do the same in Hoary?09:26
HappyFoolyou can use the delightfully named 'smeg' to edit menus; i believe it's installable from the backports repository09:27
ttyS0hello :) i've just reinstalled ubuntu yesterday .i've installed gstreamer (+libid3tag +libmad) already but rhythmbox doesn't show any IDv* information. I remember that I was installing some 'debs' before & all was working properly but now I can't remember their 'names'....09:27
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TouruIs there a way a key could get detatched from what it's supposed to do? I'm pretty sure my m isn't shorting out or anything, because if I press it during bootup, I get an m on the screen. But once Ubuntu is loaded, no more m unless I copy it.09:27
Touru(It's not in the X keyboard stuff, it seems)09:28
AmaranthHappyFool: Can you think of a better name? :)09:28
La_PaRCaHappyFool, nope, smeg is not in backports. Any other ideas?09:28
Amaranthsmeg is in backports09:28
Amaranthi packaged it for backports myself09:28
tritium3 cheers for Amaranth09:28
hacked`guys how can i run a .sh script on boot up ?09:28
tritiumhacked`, look into using update-rc.d09:29
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La_PaRCaOh, thats right... I dont have backports enabled, just ubuntu-extras09:29
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Amaranthtritium: You know I wrote the thing too, right? :)09:29
HappyFoolAmaranth: amaranth's gnome menu editor = agme :P09:29
tritiumAmaranth, of course I knew that :)09:29
AmaranthHappyFool: lame09:29
AmaranthIf I'm going to change it has to be a somewhat random name like evince or metacity09:29
tritiumThat's why I cheered for you ;)09:29
AmaranthI thought you were cheering for the packaging. :)09:30
ridejibhello everyone09:30
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tritiumWell, all your work...09:30
zAo^lo09:30
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HappyFoolttyS0: you've installed the packages mentioned on the RestrictedFormats page on the wiki?09:30
HappyFool!restricted09:30
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:30
AndyR_we should all cheer for Amaranth09:30
ttyS0HappyFool, of course09:31
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AndyR_after 309:31
AndyR_109:31
AndyR_209:31
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ridejibcheer for Amaranth , why?09:31
Amaranthforgot to do that :)09:31
tritiumfor giving us smeg09:31
AndyR_cheer09:31
HappyFoolttyS0: hmm. mine Just Works.09:31
La_PaRCawhats the sources.list line for hoary-backports?09:31
Amaranthtritium: that sounds so wrong09:31
ridejibohhh. yes. smeg is a nice little util09:31
tritiumheh09:31
ridejibhuzzah, Amaranth!09:32
La_PaRCasmeg sounds kinda liek phlegm09:32
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ridejibnot really09:32
AmaranthIt's nastier, actually.09:32
La_PaRCaanyway, whats the sources.list line for backports?09:32
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HappyFool!backports09:33
ubotubackports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org. Backports are not advised for regular use, mainly because you might not be able to upgrade Ubuntu.09:33
HappyFoolthat's not the line -- read that page for more09:33
Amaranthgrr, who put that crap in there?09:33
HappyFoolwhich crap would that be?09:33
djpwhile, i've got the chance... thanks Amaranth! :)09:33
Amaranthubotu: no, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org09:34
ubotuAmaranth: okay09:34
Sionidehttp://moon.google.com  <-- zoom right in on that09:35
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mpmcubotu: what is mpd09:35
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, mpmc09:35
ridejibSionide: like cheese?09:35
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Sionidemmm cheese :D09:35
ridejiblol09:35
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Amaranth!info mpd09:36
ubotumpd: (Music Player Daemon, the name says it all), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.11.5-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 93 kB, Installed size: 316 kB09:36
SionideO_o09:36
Sionidewow09:36
Sionideuseful bot09:36
Sionide!info Amarok09:36
Amaranthmpmc: why do you want a cli music player?09:36
ubotuamarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.2.3-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 4844 kB, Installed size: 11292 kB09:36
HappyFoolcheeky, though09:36
lqbmipsel-linux-gcc is included in binutils packet, is it?09:36
Sionidewoah09:36
Sionidenice...09:36
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AmaranthSionide: It takes packages names, not program names.09:36
Amaranth!info libgnome-menu breezy09:37
mpmcwell.. I'm using a GUI for it09:37
Amaranthoops09:37
Sionide!info gnomebaker09:37
ubotugnomebaker: (application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.3-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 384 kB, Installed size: 1244 kB09:37
Sionidenice nice nice. very useful indeed09:37
Amaranthok, take it to a pm please09:37
Amaranthmpmc: ?09:37
Sionidei'm finished09:37
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daveis ubuntu any good?09:37
mpmcWhat lol09:37
Amaranthmpmc: why not just use rhythmbox or something?09:37
Amaranthdave: Great place to ask that question. :)09:38
mpmcstrange thing.. Is.. It sound better09:38
davei figured this place is better than #gentoo or #debian09:38
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klaymdave: the best place: #linux09:38
Amaranthmpmc: that isn't really possible09:38
ridejibdave: i like it09:38
La_PaRCaum09:38
daveyes, but i dont want to start an omgdistro war, and would probably be banned from there or something.09:38
La_PaRCaapt-cache search phlegm doesnt find anything09:38
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HappyFoolsmeg09:39
Amaranthmpmc: and you're making a lot of work for yourself for something that may or may not be all in your head :)09:39
HappyFoolyeesh09:39
davehow about this question. do you have repositories seperate from debian?09:39
AmaranthHappyFool: found out what it is?09:39
La_PaRCajaja09:39
La_PaRCaI know09:39
HappyFoolAmaranth: i knew, thanks09:39
Amaranthdave: Yeah, we have all our own.09:39
HappyFoolAmaranth: hence my constant sniping :P09:39
AmaranthHappyFool: It's a swear word.09:39
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daveAmaranth: eh??09:39
mpmclol.. I have Amarok.. But it doesn't support Gnome very well09:39
Amaranthdave: You can't use debian repositories in ubuntu.09:39
daveAmaranth: what do you mean by all?09:39
arguhohanyone know how to fix this problem?   An installation step has failed... The failing step is: Load installer components from CD.09:39
daveyou can't? interesting09:40
Amaranthmpmc: rhythmbox, muine, beep-media-player, etc09:40
davedoes ubuntu have a lot of packages? is it all binaries?09:40
mpmcgot those too...09:40
Sionidearguhoh, probably you'll need to re-burn it - try at a lower burn speed09:40
Amarantharguhoh: I think your CD or CD-ROM drive is bad.09:40
davedo i get to use xorg? is it lightweight? can i choose not to install X?09:40
klaymdave: Ubuntu is the only distro you need. don't use other distros.09:40
arguhohsionide: tried 4 times09:40
La_PaRCaAmaranth, does smeg have a menu entry?09:40
mpmcTheres, only one media player for me.. and it's windows only :@09:40
Amaranthdave: give me a second, i'll make the bot tell us09:40
Sionidearguhoh, in that case, re-download the iso file? check your md5 checksums to make sure you got the full file?09:40
Amaranthmpmc: iTunes is not that good09:40
djpLa_PaRCa: yes it does09:40
daveklaym: that really doesnt answer any of my questions at all. but thanks09:41
HappyFooldave: packages.ubuntu.com will let you search the package list. There is a server install. Xorg is the default in the latest release09:41
davelol09:41
mpmcNot Itunes.. thats Sh*t09:41
Sionidearguhoh, if that doens't work you probably got a knackered cd-rom drive, i'd say...09:41
daveok. and is the community any good? :)09:41
arguhohsionide: downloaded from the mirror site and torrent...md5 good, cdroms good09:41
mpmcWinamp :)09:41
La_PaRCaooohhhh... purty.... much better than vim blah.desktop09:41
Amaranthmpmc: beep and xmms can use winamp 2 skins09:41
mpmcI know..09:41
mpmcI still dont like them :P09:41
arguhohSionide: I'll try it once more though09:41
Amaranth!dstats hoary09:41
ubotuUbuntu Distro Stats on hoary... 16270 packages, 1437 maintainers, 31005 MB installed size, 9820 MB compressed size.09:42
Amaranth!dstats sarge09:42
Amaranthhrm09:42
Sionidearguhoh, can't think of anything else then.. sorry09:42
Amaranthit used to show debian too09:42
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arguhohSionide: alright, thanks09:42
Amaranthdave: anyway, as you can see, ubuntu is not lacking anything as far as packages go09:42
davecan i compile my own kernel in ubuntu?09:42
Amaranthsure, but you won't need to09:43
davebut i want to.09:43
mpmcI used to tell myself, You would wait..09:43
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Amaranthdave: Not many people here will be able to help you with it but you can do it.09:43
eliquestion for the brilliant ubuntu gods, is there a way to grab another partition and add it to the ext3 partition that ubuntu is based on?09:43
daveAmaranth: as i understand it, it is only copying the bzimage, yes?09:44
gsuveganybody use php+sqlite ??09:44
AlexBOhello! I've just download xtraceroute and it says me this: "OpenGL not supported". how can i see if i've got it? and if i haven't it, how can i install it?09:44
concept10Anyone here using Breezy or Sid sources?09:44
Amaranthdave: If you don't know how to do it I wouldn't recommend it. You have to make an initrd and such too.09:44
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eli!fglrx09:44
ubotuI heard fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:44
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eliAlexBO go to the link ubotu gave09:45
Amaranthdave: 99% of ubuntu users have no need for a custom kernel09:45
daveno, i suppose not. i am a gentoo user and i am looking for something else09:45
daveis ubuntu right for me, or should i keep looking09:45
AlexBOeli: where is the link?09:45
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gsuvegDave ubuntu != gentoo ;)09:45
Amaranthdave: ubuntu is right for you if you want to quick screwing around with the computer and just use it09:45
elihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:46
daveno really? i thought it was exactly the same thing. rolleyes09:46
concept10dave, you can compile a kernel if you wish.09:46
tritiumdave, but you can still build packages from source in ubuntu, if that's your cup of tea09:46
zerboxxWhen I look to see what updates are available, I see 2 mozilla-firefox updates, which it wont let me install, unless I do the smart upgrade through synaptic, should I do this?09:46
daveno, no source. thats why i am switching :)09:46
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Amaranthdave: iirc make-kpkg handles everything for you there09:46
davei still want a custom kernel though, just for kicks. so, sounds good09:46
Amaranthit even makes you a deb for the kernel09:46
daveit is 2.6 right?09:46
tritiumyes, and make-kpkg is in the package named "kernel-package"09:46
davei would be worried if it wasn't09:47
Amaranthbut there might be issues, i haven't compiled a kernel since i was on debian and wanted 2.6.109:47
AlexBOeli: where is the link?09:47
Amaranth2.6.1009:47
tritiumdave, there's a KernelHowto on thew wiki.  The User Documention URL listed in the topic links to it.09:47
lqbanyone can help me with cross compile?09:47
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tritiums/thew/the09:47
lqb:S09:47
concept10Amaranth, I understand you want to discourage people from compiling kernels and such, I just say let them do it if they want to learn, there is truly no need for it, but some people just want to do it09:47
daveit's either ubuntu or debian. i can't decide!09:47
elidave i cusomize a lot of things with ubuntu (except the kernel) and it works great. like Amaranth said it is very usable without the necessity of screwing around with it09:47
HappyFool!kernelhowto09:47
ubotusomebody said kernelhowto was "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto"09:47
HappyFoollqb: asked in #gcc ?09:48
Amaranthdave: ubuntu has releases that aren't 3 years apart09:48
concept10HappyFool, remove the quotation marks from that09:48
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Amaranthdave: and rides the bleeding edge of xorg and gnome releases09:48
lqbHappyFool,  ok09:48
eliits 6 months apart :)09:48
HappyFoolconcept10: yessir09:48
AlexBOubotu: eli said me this:  AlexBO go to the link ubotu gave. can you help me?09:48
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, AlexBO09:48
daveAmaranth: thats pretty good09:48
daveone last thing09:48
HappyFoolAlexBO: he meant this:09:48
eliAlexBO https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:48
HappyFool!fglrx09:48
ubotumethinks fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:48
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zerboxxWhen using synaptic to upgrade ubuntu, should I use default upgrade, or smart upgrade?09:49
davethe first time around, i completely missed the prompt for what kind of install i want09:49
daveed09:49
davewhere is it?09:49
Amaranthdave: breezy is going to have/has xorg 7.0 and gnome 2.1209:49
elizerboxx smart upgrade09:49
eliits safer09:49
AlexBOHappyFool: eli: ubotu: thanks09:49
Amaranthwhat do you mean what kind of install?09:49
daveex. server, / full09:49
Amaranthoh09:49
eliAlexBO =)09:49
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Amaranthat the first script on the install cd where it just says to press enter09:49
Amaranthtype 'server' and press enter09:50
daveoh.. why cant you pick it after that09:50
davethats interesting. i think you should be able to pick right before it copies the files09:50
concept10Amaranth, where did you learn python.  Are you a comp sci student or self taught?09:50
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Amaranthdave: not a GNOME fan?09:50
davenot in the least.09:50
Amaranthconcept10: self taught, just starting college09:50
Amaranthdave: KDE?09:50
elidave why not?09:50
MrGardenHoseManapt-get can't find java-package09:50
davei didnt enjoy it when i used it09:50
elior ICEWM?09:50
MrGardenHoseManis there an alternative?09:50
davethe theme manager crashed.09:50
AmaranthMrGardenHoseMan: is multiverse enabled?09:51
MrGardenHoseManno idea09:51
eli!repositories09:51
MrGardenHoseManhow do i check09:51
ubotuit has been said that repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:51
daveone of those desktop managers sucks09:51
mumblesbugger it going to swich into windows and do some websutff in dreamweaver09:51
daveuses too much ram09:51
tritiumMrGardenHoseMan, it's in multiverse09:51
eliMrGardenHoseMan follow the link ubotu gave09:51
bwlangMrGardenHoseMan: you need to build a java package from the sun .tgz file... google for make-jpkg (note jpkg not kpkg)09:51
concept10Amaranth, do you have recommendation for a good source of python tutorials?09:51
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MrGardenHoseManheh linux is a pain in the ass09:52
tritiumconcept10, dive into python, which is already installed for you09:52
Amaranthdave: i've got GNOME running with firefox, totem, xchat, muine, tomboy, and blam running and i'm only using 180MB09:52
MrGardenHoseManthanks though09:52
elibwlang? cant you get a non-free java sdk package from apt-get?09:52
HappyFoolconcept10: thinkcspy is good for beginner programmers09:52
Amaranthconcept10: what he said, diveintopython is great09:52
daveAmaranth: interesting09:52
davei am going to try KDE because i have never used it09:52
Amaranthdave: I'm on breezy though, dunno how much of a difference that is.09:52
eliKDE = nightmare09:53
Amaranthdave: You want to get a kubuntu CD then.09:53
tritiumMrGardenHoseMan, actually, it's Sun's licensing that makes using java such a pain09:53
Amaranthdave: and join #kubuntu :)09:53
HappyFoolconcept10: http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/    --- imo diveintopython is for those who've done a bit of coding before09:53
davecant i just emerge it?09:53
elikubuntu still has a lot of kinks09:53
davesorry, apt get09:53
daveheh09:53
AmaranthHappyFool: That's what I used, actually09:53
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tritiumMrGardenHoseMan, they don't allow us to provide pre-built packages09:53
Riddelleli: what kinks?09:53
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seth_keli, not with KDE 3.4.1, it's a dream09:53
Amaranthdave: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop works too09:53
Riddellseth_k: thanks :)09:53
HappyFoolAmaranth: your opinion of it?09:53
AmaranthHappyFool: great stuff09:53
seth_kcheers Riddell, Kubuntu pwns ;)09:53
elioh, a friend of mine tried the first version of kubuntu and went back to ubuntu is less than two hours09:53
davecan someone clarify09:53
AmaranthHappyFool: I'd been using PHP for 2 years when I read that but it still taught me a lot.09:54
concept10Amaranth, HappyFool thanks for the advice.09:54
davewhy do you make the KDE and the GNOME version of ubuntu sound liek two different distributions09:54
AmaranthHappyFool: I didn't actually know the concepts or terminology behind what I was using before reading that.09:54
HappyFoolAmaranth: cool09:54
seth_keli, there were some pretty bad crash bugs with 3.4.0. In my experience it is now rock stable though09:54
seth_kdave, marketing :P09:54
Amaranthdave: They are.09:54
tritiumdave, they are09:54
davearen't they similar?09:54
HappyFoolconcept10: also, try #python on this server09:54
eliseth_k that is good to hear. i prefer gnome, but i like kde as well09:54
elignome is faster =)09:54
Amaranthdave: They share the same repositories.09:54
davebut similar otherwise?09:55
seth_keli: kioslaves. No more needs to be said. :D09:55
Amaranthdave: But they are two seperate distrobutions.09:55
elilol09:55
eliok09:55
daveokay.. can i choose not to install gnome?09:55
Amaranthdave: server09:55
daveok, ok. so no package selection?09:55
Amaranthnope09:55
truz24dave, its awesome too, server only takes like 250 megs on install09:55
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elithere was an article about kde and gnome -> could be possible that kde and gnome merge =S09:55
daveinteresting.09:55
AmaranthToo confusing for new users to have that in the installer.09:55
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RiddellAmaranth: arguable, it's the same package archive09:56
Amaranththat's what the server option is for :)09:56
tritiumand then install kubuntu-desktop after you choose the server install09:56
daveAmaranth: come on, you're kidding me09:56
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daveAmaranth: you could have a seperate option for package options09:56
davelike slackware. that was fun09:56
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Amaranthdave: If it was possible the installer would ask nothing more than your language. :)09:56
daveexcept slackware doesnt have a package system to speak of, last i checked09:56
elislackware is still pretty good yes?09:56
HappyFoolif you choose expert mode you might be able to do some tweaking. expert install mode looks quite fun.09:56
Amaranthdave: The end goal is making it so _anyone_ can do this stuff.09:56
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Sionideeli, sounds good to me.09:57
daveAmaranth: i dont see why you couldn't have, in addition to a "server" option, one for selecting your packages09:57
funkyHatdave, you can install with no gnome09:57
Sionidei use apps from both, basically got most of the KDE libs because of that09:57
davebut yeah, ubuntu was pretty simple to install, it was done before i knew it09:57
funkyHatthere's an option for 'server install' which has no X09:57
Amaranthdave: Not much of a difference to it though. server just installs a minimal system and you can do package selection from the terminal after the install. :)09:57
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eliubuntu and kubuntu = installing a program 30 sec with apt-get. with some sh install or such plan a free afternoon09:57
davebut the partitioning was a little confusing.. i dont think new users would enjoy that.. do you have an autopartitioner in there?09:57
seth_kindeed, Ubuntu installs so fast09:57
davei am used to using plain fdisk and imo its a lot more intuitive09:58
Sionide30 sec? more like 10...09:58
elidave, there there is09:58
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Amaranthdave: Yeah, you can just tell it to blow the existing partitions away and let the installer set it up for you.09:58
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eliSionide ... true :)09:58
Amaranthdave: It's really only a problem if you want to keep things.09:58
mpmcThe install is soo simple.09:58
eliadios people09:58
La_PaRCaOk, does anybody know how I can rip one of those cds that come with data and music? im having some trouble with that09:58
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daveAmaranth: why?09:59
daveAmaranth: why wouldnt you be able to just make new partitions inside the unpartitioned space as if the other ones were not there09:59
zerboxxWhen I go to the firefox page, it's telling me about some ubuntu 1.06 mistake thing, if when I go to synaptic it has no further updates (using smart), do I have 1.06 even though it says its 1.04?09:59
Amaranthdave: Because we haven't figured out that whole artificial intellegence thing yet. :)09:59
davewhat sort of partitions does ubuntu use, anyway?09:59
davejust root?09:59
Amaranthdave: What if there is no unpartitioned space?09:59
mpmcZerboxx.. I had the same09:59
daveAmaranth: then you're in trouble09:59
Amaranthiirc it sets up /, /home, and swap09:59
daveAmaranth: but you know what i mean. it would work09:59
HappyFooli have just / and swap10:00
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HappyFooli think that mine is a default install10:00
AmaranthHappyFool: Did you do the partitioning yourself?10:00
HappyFoolAmaranth: um. possibly10:00
AmaranthHappyFool: Or did you tell the installer to do it all for you?10:00
zerboxxmpmc: So, any idea if it is 1.06 or nor?10:00
AmaranthIf you told it to do it for you it makes /home separate.10:00
HappyFoolAmaranth: no, i guess i must've -- i have windows and preserved my warty install10:00
daveyou could put like, "use entire disk" , "use entire unpartitioned space", or "manual partition"10:01
AmaranthAt least I think it does, I haven't wiped /home since warty so I always do a custom install. :)10:01
daveso if you were switching from another linux, you could delete all the linux partitions and select the second option10:01
mpmczerboxx: you  have an older version. So, do I10:01
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daveobviously the idea needs work but you get it10:01
tritiumzerboxx, there is no 1.0.6 ubuntu package yet10:01
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|rockinnerd|how do you move the main panel?10:01
mpmcnice username root__ :P10:02
daveok. next time we see eachother it will be from an ubuntu desktop10:02
dave:)10:02
daveoh wait10:02
davedoes ubuntu have rppppoe?10:02
davei couldnt find it10:02
Sionide|rockinnerd|, pretty sure it's click and drag, but careful - mine mucked up after i moved it to the side of the screen before..10:02
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zerboxxtritium: Ok, thanks10:02
Amaranth!info rpppoe10:03
|rockinnerd|Sionide, i did the same thing :)10:03
Amaranthhmm10:03
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Amaranth!info pppoe10:03
ubotupppoe: (PPP over Ethernet driver), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 3.5-4ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 208 kB10:03
MrGardenHoseManstill says it can't find java-package, even though multiverse is enabled10:03
Amaranththat?10:03
Amaranth!info java-package10:03
tritiumMrGardenHoseMan, did you update your package listing to that synaptic/apt knows about the new packages?10:03
ubotujava-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.23 (hoary), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 264 kB10:03
mpmc!info mpd10:03
ubotumpd: (Music Player Daemon, the name says it all), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.11.5-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 93 kB, Installed size: 316 kB10:03
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Amaranthack10:04
MrGardenHoseManyeah10:04
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mpmc!info nuts10:04
Amaranthmpmc: If you're doing it for yourself please do it in a PM.10:04
tritiumMrGardenHoseMan, are you using apt-get or synaptic?10:04
mpmcLOL10:04
MrGardenHoseManby click on 'reload' right?10:04
MrGardenHoseManapt-get10:04
|rockinnerd|Sionide, rt-click on the panel and select properties <== what i did10:04
Amaranthclick on reload, yeah10:04
|rockinnerd|to fix it10:04
mpmcDoing what myself?10:04
|rockinnerd|EWW! PERV! lol10:04
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arguhohhaha...the fix to my problem - remove ide cable..put the same one back in and now magically it can install10:04
Amaranthmpmc: getting info on a package for yourself10:04
nebularneed some help with the quake2 package, my mouse is all over the place and the usual problem of gpm doesn't apply. my searches have come up with nothing. I'm running hoary10:05
Amarantharguhoh: it was probably loose10:05
tritiumhe's just goofing around10:05
gangaleeis there a script to install de-css?10:05
mpmc:s10:05
mpmc:-!10:05
arguhohodd kind of loose.  I could boot the first part of the ubuntu CD and all of gentoo live10:05
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|rockinnerd|gangalee, in multiverse i think10:05
|rockinnerd|it is in10:05
tritiumNo, it can't be provided even in multiverse.10:06
tritium!restricted10:06
uboturestricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:06
tritiumgangalee, see that URL above10:06
|rockinnerd|                                                                                                         ^^ there10:06
|rockinnerd|d'oh10:06
Sionide|rockinnerd|, yep i managed to get it fixed luckily, then added all the stuff back on10:06
|rockinnerd|same10:06
gangaleethx everybody!10:06
Sionide|rockinnerd|, that was the first time something really bad happened to my ubuntu :)10:07
Sionidebyee! ;)10:07
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davecan i get pppoe with my server install?10:07
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funkyHati wish ubuntu would fix their https certs10:08
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daveyes? no?10:08
tritiumdave, if it's not installed by default, you can certainly install it after10:09
davehow?10:09
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davethat's all i need to know, then i can start finding things out for myself.10:09
Hikaru79How can I check my default runlevel is on startup?10:09
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Hikaru79*what10:09
tritiumdave, "sudo apt-get install pppoe", or through synaptic10:09
davedont you need a network connection for that?10:09
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tritiumdave, if the pppoe .deb is not on the install CD, yes.10:10
pdgHi everyone: is it common for NVidia acceleration to stop working every once in a while?10:10
phlaegelso what's broken in breezy? I'm playing with it, and so far I'm missing mkfontdir. Are there more problems beyond that?10:10
davehow do i know if its on the cd?10:10
crimsunpdg, no it's not common10:10
YFieHey where can I bother someone with ubuntu questions?10:10
daveYFie: probably in this channel.10:10
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tritiumdave, that's a good question.  I'll check for you.10:10
funkyHatdave, it is on the CD10:10
daveok, thanks10:10
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rooot___where is the kubuntu repository?10:11
Hikaru79How can I check which runlevel my computer is set to start from on boot?10:11
daveis it easy to figure out?10:11
tritiumthanks, funkyHat.  you rock10:11
crimsunrooot___, same place as the Ubuntu repository.10:11
tritiumHello crimsun.10:11
crimsunHikaru79, it uses 210:11
crimsunhi tr10:11
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Hikaru79crimsun, thanks! +)10:11
crimsuntritium, rather.10:11
Hikaru79*=)10:11
davei will try to do it without asking any more questions. farewell10:11
davebooting ubuntu now. time me!10:11
funkyHatotherwise people with pppoe modems wouldn't be able to get on the net regardless of whether they use server install or not10:11
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funkyHatthat would just be silly10:12
YFieWell, I was wondering how difficult it would be to install the actual ATI issued driver for my x800?10:12
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crimsunYFie, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:12
mpmc!info php10:12
YFiehey cheers man10:12
roothi10:12
mpmc!info php410:12
ubotuphp4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 4:4.3.10-10ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB10:13
makis there a way to run a process and limit the amount of memory it uses? i have a process that i want to run, but would still like to use my computer10:13
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mpmcyes.. It's called shutting down your PC and mine...10:13
LinuxJoneshello10:13
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Hikaru79If I don't use a dial-up modem (therefore, I don't use the ppp protocol), is it safe to remove the 'ppp' process from my default runlevel?10:13
mpmclol10:13
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vG|ZaxorI have one hard disk, with 2 partisions. I want to install linux on one partition withour erasing the other one. Is that possible?10:14
mpmcyes10:14
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ReEgZhello10:15
mpmcI'm off to play wow!10:15
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RideWhat10:15
mpmcBye :-)10:15
ReEgZneed help with an installation of ubuntu linux10:15
ReEgZplease10:15
Rides  the problem with wiki.ubuntu?10:15
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LinuxJonesReEgZ, what's wrong ?10:15
Hikaru79vG|Zaxor, yes, it's very possible.10:16
makReEgZ, yes, you can install it on only one partition without harming the other10:16
tazis there a burning tool for dvd:s that can handle .img files?.. gnomebaker seems not too...10:16
ReEgZerrr, it installs however10:16
YFieEhrm.. another quiick question, apt-get tells me that there is no such package as described in the wiki. So i thought I do an apt-get update and refresh the list from the net. but then I remembered that I did CD install so maybe it ain't got no net aware repos. How do I add that ? :) Wiki, right?10:16
ReEgZwhen i logon ie: enter user name n password10:16
ReEgZit freezes10:16
ReEgZno response at all10:16
RideDoes anyone know of a GOOD samba tutorial since the ubuntu wiki doesn't work?10:16
linuksoHmm, maybe I am missing something, but ubuntus apache setup has changed... Userdir no longer works, but the symlink is in place. Any ideas anyone?10:16
ReEgZmy disk is partitioned into 310:16
makYFie, go to ubuntuguide10:16
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ReEgZwindows xp one 1, linux on the other, n using the last one for swap10:17
LinuxJonesReEgZ, your running Hoary (the latest stable version) ?10:17
ReEgZyes10:17
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ReEgZVersion 5.0410:17
elianyone here know how to use synergy?10:17
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tritiumcrimsun, you've been rather busy lately, haven't you?10:17
crimsuntritium, yeppers10:18
eli!synergy10:18
ubotueli: Bugger all, i dunno10:18
eli:(10:18
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tazis there a burning tool for dvd:s that can handle .img files?.. gnomebaker seems not too...10:18
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atilaHello; Can anyone help me ? I am stuck within E16 and can neither start any programs nor get back to gnome . . . please help . . .10:19
Quest-Masteratila: you can't get back to Gnome?10:19
arguhohfasjkdfhsadf....alright, so it got past the moving stuff from the CD once or whatever then it couldn't detect a hard drive - restart installer and now it hangs at the original problem again.  replacing IDE with a new one now10:19
AlexBOi've installed the nvidia driver and now the OpenGL works. but the fonts aren't clear and it's no so easy read. what can it be? anti-aliasing?10:19
Quest-Masteratila: What is the error exactly?10:19
atilawell; I do not know how to ...10:19
LinuxJonesReEgZ, so your system just locks up and you can't do anything with it other than power it down ?10:20
atilathanks for replying10:20
atilaI am so desperate ...10:20
ReEgZyep10:20
atilaI installed and run E1610:20
ReEgZno response at all10:20
MrGardenHoseManalright, i've enabled all the reposotories, reloaded them and still apt-get can't find java-package10:20
MrGardenHoseManwhat am i doing wrong10:20
atilaand am in this flashy Enlightenment environment10:20
Quest-MasterMrGardenHoseMan: sudo apt-cache search java10:20
tritiumMrGardenHoseMan, can you please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin?10:20
AmaranthMrGardenHoseMan: You are on hoary, right?10:20
crimsunMrGardenHoseMan, java-package is in multiverse. You need to ensure it's enabled.10:20
LinuxJonesReEgZ, yikes10:20
ReEgZLinuxJones: tried using ext 3 n reiser10:20
atilabut how do I stop it and get back to gnome ?10:20
eliMrGardenHoseMan : sudo apt-get update10:20
Amaranthatila: log out10:20
LinuxJonesReEgZ, that's not your problem10:20
YFieUhm.. is there such a thing as mirrors for apt-get sources so that I can pull data from local mirrors?10:20
atilaOK10:20
Quest-Masteratila: Get to GDM, and choose Gnome for which desktop to log into10:21
elithen use synaptic to search for java10:21
Quest-Masteratila: Yeah, log out10:21
elioops10:21
elinot java10:21
eliyes java10:21
elisorry10:21
atilathanks people ...10:21
eliwaking up still10:21
elisips coffee10:21
atilahope to thank you again in gnome :-)10:21
atilaover and out10:21
Quest-MasterAlexBO: Most likely anti-aliasing is the problem.. Check the properties in System (or is it Desktop Preferences?) -> Fonts and play with the options there10:21
eliAlexBO you still there?10:22
AlexBOeli: yes10:22
elinever mind Quest-Master was a step ahead of me10:22
Quest-Masterhehe~10:22
eli=P10:22
elianyone familiar with synergy10:22
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MrGardenHoseMan deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe10:23
MrGardenHoseMan deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe10:23
MrGardenHoseMan deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted10:23
MrGardenHoseMan deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted10:23
MrGardenHoseMan deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe10:23
MrGardenHoseMan deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe10:23
MrGardenHoseManyes i'm on ahoary10:23
AlexBOQuest-Master: how can i see if the anti-aliasing is active?10:23
MrGardenHoseManapt-get update didn't do anything10:23
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LinuxJonesReEgZ, instead of logging into the system hit ctrl+alt+F2 to get open a new terminal window. Type sudo (enter your user password) apt-get update && apt-get upgrade        You can get back to the gnome login screen by hitting ctrl+alt+F7. Then re-boot.10:23
atilasorry to bother again but ...10:23
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MrGardenHoseManand i'm posisitve multiverse is enabled10:23
atilaI am in enlightenment again10:23
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tritiumMrGardenHoseMan, next time please paste on pastebin or in #flood.10:23
Quest-MasterAlexBO: There should be options under the Fonts dialog..10:23
eliah ha you need backports10:23
atilaafter logging out and in :-(10:23
Quest-Masteratila: Did you select GNOME in GDM?10:23
ReEgZLinuxJones: cool thnx10:23
ReEgZill try that10:23
eliMrGardenHoseMan : you need backports10:23
MrGardenHoseMansorry10:23
MrGardenHoseManwill do10:23
eli!java10:23
uboturumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.10:23
atilahow do I get to GDM ? (me noob)10:24
YFieok, worked, cheers for the help, y'all!10:24
Quest-Masteratila: You should get there when you logout..10:24
AlexBOQuest-Master: well...no10:24
Quest-MasterAlexBO: ?10:24
atilaoops sorry big time :-P10:24
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atilathanks again10:24
LinuxJonesReEgZ, hopefully it's a bug that's been fixed in a recent update :)10:24
atilaover10:24
Quest-Masteratila: np.. hope it works10:24
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AlexBOQuest-Master: i've the italian version, so there isn't written "anti-aliasing"10:24
tritiumMrGardenHoseMan, multiverse is not listed above (only universe)10:24
AlexBOQuest-Master: are you sure there is the option here?10:25
Quest-MasterAlexBO: It is somewhere there, you might have to snoop around a bit for it.10:25
ReEgZwell i really hope so10:25
ReEgZwe using mandrake at work10:25
tritiumMrGardenHoseMan, you don't need backports, you need "multi" in addition to "uni" verse.10:25
ReEgZand i've never worked on linux so gota learn fast10:25
eliQuest-Master is there a terminal command to set the anti-aliasing for nVidia cards? i use fglrx so i dont know10:25
MrGardenHoseManyeah just noticed it don't understand why it's not there though10:25
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tritiumno worries10:26
MrGardenHoseMani'm even looking at it right now and it's set10:26
MrGardenHoseMangui wise anyways10:26
Quest-Mastereli: No idea, I don't have an NVidia or ATi card so.. hmm..10:26
LinuxJonesReEgZ, If your using Mandrake (Mandrive at work I would recommend you use that at home.10:26
AlexBOQuest-Master: it's no the firs time i've this problem. i've already make all the possible combiantions there10:26
Quest-MasterAlexBO: are you on AMD64?10:26
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AlexBOQuest-Master: yes, why?10:27
MrGardenHoseMananyone want to paste their sources.list?10:27
MrGardenHoseManwith multiverse10:27
tazi can do that10:27
MrGardenHoseManthanks10:27
tritiumtaz, can you use #flood please?10:27
tazi changed to multiverse yesterday..10:27
MrGardenHoseManalready there10:27
tazok...10:27
Quest-MasterAlexBO: I have seen this problem before with AMDs.. let me see if I can find a solution, one minute10:27
tritiumthanks, guys!10:28
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AlexBOQuest-Master: THANKs!!! thank you so much10:28
eliwait.. MrGardenHoseMan you have amd?10:28
ReEgZwhat are the differences between mandrake and ubuntu?10:28
MrGardenHoseManintel10:28
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elioh, ok10:28
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ReEgZi thought the basic commands and usages stayed the same10:28
qt2...i somehow managed to hose my sound... o.O;10:29
atilaHello again from GNOME :-)10:29
atilait worked and I just stopped to say thank you to all10:29
elithey do, but mandrake is kde based and uses rpm packages, while ubuntu is even better with synaptic for program installation10:29
atilathis is why I love ubuntu ... the great community :-)10:29
eliand bleeding edge xorg and gnome10:29
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atilathanks :-)10:29
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ReEgZgreek to me mate.10:30
elii tried mandrake twice... alway left it unsatisfied10:30
ReEgZits all microsoft in my head10:30
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ReEgZbut i keen to learn linux10:30
eliubutnu ReEgZ is the best linux distro to learn on10:30
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Quest-MasterAlexBO: Are you able to get to a System Tools -> NVIDIA Settings dialog?10:31
nebularhas anyone here got quake2 worknig on their system?10:31
AlexBOQuest-Master: let me see10:31
tritiumReEgZ, most of the command are in fact the same.  One main difference is the emphasis on using "sudo".10:31
atilanebular : me10:31
Quest-Masteratila: It worked? Awesome. :D10:32
tazQuestion:  is there a burning tool for dvd:s that can handle .img files?.. gnomebaker seems not too...10:32
AlexBOQuest-Master: i've not any nvidia icons10:32
ReEgZexplain sudo to me plz10:32
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Quest-MasterAlexBO: Odd.. you have nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings installed?10:32
atilayep; Thanks Quest-Master :-) and thanks to the ubuntu community . . . I love you people10:32
Quest-Masteratila: :)10:32
tritiumReEgZ, mind if I give you a URL to read first?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:32
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AlexBOQuest-Master: nvidia-glx yes, the second let me see10:32
tritiumReEgZ, if you have any questions after reading that, don't hesitate to ask.10:32
nebularatila: did you every have issues wit the mouse?10:33
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atilanebular : Yes I did : first didn't work at all ...10:33
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AlexBOQuest-Master: yes, but i can't run it10:33
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ReEgZyeah thatl be cool, il check it out thnx10:33
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AlexBOQuest-Master: yes, i can!!!10:33
firemaxbonjour10:33
avebellhiya everyone10:34
atilanebular : but even I did it 2 days ago cannot remember how ...10:34
Quest-MasterAlexBO: So you can run it?10:34
atilanebula : thou it was easy even for me :-)10:34
tritiumhello, firemax10:34
firemaxhello tritium10:34
nebularatila: well currently I have sound and video working fine, but when I try and move the mouse, it will only move horizontally and very fast10:34
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nebularatila: was that similar to your mouse issue?10:34
Quest-MasterAlexBO: You have also run: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable -- right?10:34
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AlexBOQuest-Master: ni10:35
atilanebular : Had exactly the same problem; has sth. to do with settings I guess10:35
AlexBOQuest-Master: no. have i to run that?10:35
nebularatila: you still have your config?10:35
atilanebular : guess I corrected it from in game options10:35
atilanebular : I do have it and I play too :-)10:35
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atilanebular : wait a moment10:35
Sputn1kHello, I was running Warty and ET ran fine. I upgraded to Hoary and I had problems. The problems that I had would be a black screen would come up and thats all that would happen. I could move that black screen around with moving my curser. Somebody know how to fix it??10:35
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qt2...is there any simple way to reset my sound to the way it was upon install?10:36
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AlexBOQuest-Master: it said me that there are errated options in xorg.conf10:36
AlexBOcan i send you the answer in pv?10:36
Quest-MasterAlexBO: Which answer?10:37
Sputn1kdamn, nobody knows...?10:38
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Quest-MasterSputn1k: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:38
AlexBOQuest-Master: i have found the error. let me explain it (because i don't know how to resolve it)10:38
Quest-MasterAlexBO: ok10:38
atilanebular ; I'll paste it on private ?10:38
AlexBOQuest-Master: can i write to you in pv?10:38
Quest-MasterAlexBO: sure10:38
elisecretive people10:39
eli:)10:39
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nebularatila: ok10:39
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atilafile coming :-)10:39
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LinuxJonesReEgZ, the basic commands are the same but Mandrake is based in Redhat and Ubuntu is based on Debian. They are very similar but things are done slightly differently. Like where configuration files are located and different package managment systems (ie how to install software).10:40
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elino one know synergy?10:41
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elithe pogram...10:41
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atilaeli : bump10:41
ReEgZthnx for the help everyone. ill be back for more soon10:41
ReEgZlaterzz10:41
LinuxJoneseli, there are some tutorials online10:41
funkyHatwell that was bloody scary....10:41
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LinuxJonesReEgZ, bye10:41
atilanebular : I am trying to send the file (?)10:41
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elii know, but the tutorials for the synergy site is not very clear10:42
elilooking for other howto's10:42
funkyHati just played with nvidia-settings, and suddenly discovered that i couldn't see a thing10:42
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funkyHatfortunately zapping X reset the settings10:42
njsi apologize if this has already been asked, but my friend is new to linux and he's having problems10:43
njshis ubuntu freezes when he logs in10:43
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elinjs10:43
elihe has to remove .ICEauthority10:43
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eliwhen the system freezes do the following10:43
njseli: and where might this file be found? many thanks10:43
eli<alt><control><F1>10:43
elithen you will be at a terminal10:44
njsyeah, he knows how to login and stuff10:44
eliits in $HOME10:44
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elido ls .ICEauthority10:44
eliif its there10:44
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elirm .ICEauthority10:44
elithen restart gdm10:44
eliand its hould work10:44
triggeli, njs: don't mean to but in, but I had a similar problem in gentoo in the past - also had to remove some files in /tmp10:45
nebular_atila: you could email10:45
MrGardenHoseManis 'WriteOut' in pico same as Save?10:45
atilanebular : OK10:45
elitrigg, always butt in =) if needed. the more help we give the better10:45
atilaaddress ?10:45
njsjust to clarify, it doesn't show any error message or anything, is that expected?10:45
nebular_atila: the.nebular@gmail.com10:45
njsand yeah, butting in is cool ;)10:45
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elithat sounds like .ICEauthority10:45
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njsjust gets to the Ubuntu brown and *bang* nothing10:46
atilanebular : Roger10:46
njsthanks a lot then10:46
elitry the .ICEauthority thing and see if works10:46
airmikeytrying to compile a program but i get this   configure: error: Cannot find GTK: Is gtk-config in path?10:46
njsI'll tell him that10:46
tritiumMrGardenHoseMan, yes10:46
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eliok, no problem10:46
MrGardenHoseManthanks10:46
davewooooo10:46
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davei have ubuntu now10:46
qt2is there any simple way to reset my sound to the way it was upon install?10:46
nebular_atila: lemme know when you've sent it10:46
triggeli: no problem - njs:  yeah I had problem with permissions some files basically become inaccessibly by gnome-session10:46
atilanebular : I've sent it10:47
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triggnjs: but I had to delete both the files in home directory and those in /tmp10:47
triggnjs: well, just the .ICE... files10:47
elitrigg : i had that once as well. what temp files did you remove? i just stopped <Control><c> my network config during boot and then the problem went away10:47
atilanebular : got it ?10:48
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eliso dave, what do you think of ubuntu?10:48
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elifirst impressions10:48
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triggeli:  just the hidden .ICE and .X11 files10:48
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eli.X11 files... i think that is what i missed10:49
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elii will look for it if that happens again10:49
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triggeli: don't suppose you know much about GRUB?10:49
dbernar1why10:50
davehow do i search packages?10:50
elitrigg : i work with GRUB, but i have had no serious problems with it (other than on mandrake two years ago)10:50
triggi have about a 2 minute delay between when I select my kernel and when it initializes10:50
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elireallly? that is strange10:50
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dbernar1dave, do you use the synaptic package manager?10:51
triggdoesn't seem to happen on my laptop - nor did it happen with other distros10:51
elireinstall the GRB10:51
eliGRUB10:51
elithat may help10:51
davei dont know what synaptic is.10:51
frank_dave you can use synaptic10:51
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dbernar1dave, System>Admin>Synaptic, check it out10:51
davei just installed ubuntu server. the apt-get man page is not really telling me anything.10:51
elidave do -> man apt-get10:51
triggeli: will do - and my reinstall you mean re-run grub . . . right?10:51
elioh10:51
tritiumdave, if you prefer the command line, "apt-cache search <searchterm>"10:51
atilaI am sorry but I cannot do that Dave (sorry I would die without this joke)10:51
eli!GRUB10:51
dbernar1dave10:51
ubotugrub is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto10:51
eli:)10:51
HappyFooldave: maybe the wiki will be more informative10:51
HappyFool!apt10:51
ubotuI heard apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/10:51
HappyFool!repositories10:52
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:52
nebular_atila: differences are minor and have nothing to do with the mouse10:52
dbernar1then, the command to search through your repos is apt-cache search package10:52
atiladave : on the system menu somewhere it is10:52
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davei can see install, remove, build dep, check, clean10:52
atilanebular : hmmmm . . .10:52
daveno search. does apt-get not come with that?10:52
triggubotu: thanks, I just thought there might be a specific bug with grub and the ubuntu kernel10:52
ubotutrigg: no worries10:52
HappyFooldave: try also 'sudo aptitude' -- text "gui" for apt. don't know if it comes with ther server install10:52
atilanebular : let me just start the game and come back here10:52
tritiumdave "apt-cache search"10:52
frank_like dbernar1 said, apt-cache search <searchterm>10:52
elitrigg : that didnt help i realized10:52
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davecool10:53
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elione second i found something before about reinstalling grub10:53
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nebular__atila: well i"ve narrowed it a bit.10:53
triggeli: standing-by10:53
eliok, brb10:53
dbernar1dave, did you add any repositories to your /etc/apt/sources.list?10:53
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nebular__atila: I turned off windowed mouse and it moves ok until it leaves the window10:54
Pudlandneed help with 1st time install on Dell 235010:54
davenot at all. i should probably read the stinking documentation.10:54
frank_anyone know how to figure out which ports are needed by an application. Is there a log of connections refused by the firewall for an application?10:54
nebular__atila: I suspect it could be my xorg configuration10:54
dbernar1Pudland: with what ?10:54
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dbernar1dave, well, you could do that.10:54
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dbernar1the repositories URL above from ubotu is a good plave, I think.10:54
Pudlanddbernar1  it locks up at hotplug subsystem10:54
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dbernar1dave, do you have a computer you can browse on? or perhaps know how to browse cl?10:55
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davei have whatever's on the livecd10:55
dbernar1plave^=place, a good read...10:55
davewhich line am i uncommenting here?10:55
dbernar1dave, so, live cd, or server install??10:55
qt2blah, yep... completly screwed up my sound... :(10:56
daveserver install, but i can get things from the CD.10:56
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daveand in a minute i will be able to get stuff from repos. hopefully10:56
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dbernar1dave: ya, you sound competent...10:56
A[D] minShola ppl10:56
dbernar1hola10:56
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Pudlanddbernar1  it locks up at hotplug subsystem on boot up10:56
atilanebular : in game options I guess10:56
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A[D] minSgaim: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3.4' not found (required by gaim) <-- i dono what i have to install10:56
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atilanebular : did you disable joystick there ???10:57
dbernar1A[D] minS: why compile gaim?10:57
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davethats nice of you10:57
nebular__atila: disable joystick where?10:57
frank_anyone know how to figure out which ports are needed by an application. Is there a log of connections refused by the firewall for an application?10:57
atilapress ESC in game10:57
atilaselect options10:57
nebular__atila: yeah I did10:57
atilathere it is10:57
dbernar1Pudland: not sure, what did you install exactly, and how did you get the installation disc.10:57
atilaand ?10:57
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=== keikoz hello :)
nebular__atila: same issue10:57
atilait had worked for me :-(10:57
Pudlandiso from ubuntu website10:57
davefrank_: i dont know, but usually you can look it up for the specific program.10:57
atilaargh ! wanna help someone !10:57
triggeli: not a problem, I will keep tinkering10:58
atilabrb10:58
Hikaru79How can I allow remote MySQL connections on a default Ubuntu mysql-server4.1 install?10:58
mic_hi my ftrst time here totom will not work10:58
triggeli: i think it has some thing to do with the initrd10:58
dbernar1Pudland: ubuntu|kubuntu, hoary|whatelse?10:58
Hikaru79At the moment, it's only allowing localhost.10:58
dbernar1||10:58
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frank_Dave I know usually, I can find it that way but not always10:58
Pudlandubuntu hoary10:58
elitrigg : forget about reinstalling GRUB. it sounds evil10:58
Pudlanddefault install10:58
atilanebular : I am back ... well I had almost the same problem but had somehow corrected it and it was so easy :-(10:59
frank_Dave I was used to firewalls in Windows which would pop up to tell me  a program wanted a connection10:59
dbernar1Pudland: I would love to say check the md5sum, but no clue what that means...10:59
atilamay be too easy that I forgot the solution10:59
davei am charlie sheen10:59
daveno, not really.10:59
triggeli: haha! not as evil as lilo10:59
Pudlandok, thx db10:59
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dbernar1dave, that sounds like a comment by someone at work in the chatroom, when they forget to lock their station...11:00
dbernar1you know what I mean?11:00
eliyeah lilo is worse, remembers the nightmarish problems with SuSE11:00
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Sputn1kHow to fix http://www.inferno.tinklapiai.lt/Screenshot.png11:00
Sputn1k?11:00
triggeli: I reran grub> root and setup commands, I'll see if that helped.11:00
kyncanifrank_: if your program is listening, you can use lsof -i11:00
triggexit11:00
Sputn1ki got it when i reconfigure xorg.conf11:00
fjleonhey guys, i am having trouble writting accents on openoffice on my spanish keyboard11:00
davedbernar1: heh11:00
fjleoni can type them well in konqueror11:00
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fjleonbut i cant do it on openoffice or in the terminal11:01
daveso, i'm supposed to uncomment these lines for repositories.. and then.. ?11:01
eliok, trigg tell me how it works out11:01
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elioh, hes gone11:01
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atilaSputnik : Latvia ?11:01
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davehow does apt-get know where to look for packages?11:01
dbernar1sudo aptitude update11:01
Sputn1katila Lithuania11:01
dbernar1dont use apt-get11:01
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atilaSputnik : my mistake :-)11:02
tritiumdave, from the settings in /etc/apt/sources.list11:02
HappyFooldave: /etc/apt/sources.list tells it where11:02
Sionidedave, /etc/apt/sources.list11:02
ateveshow can i add a command for an application to autostart?btw: what exactly IS autostart in linux?11:02
Sputn1k:)11:02
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ikmoDoes anyone know of a download manager for *nix please?11:02
daveok, and if i understand correctly, i'm supposed to uncomment the first two lines?11:02
Sputn1kWho told my that i should reconfigure xorg.conf?11:02
dbernar1ikmo, asked synaptic?11:02
frank_ikmo d4x is one11:02
eliateves you want to startup a program while gdm boots up?11:02
ateveseli: yes11:02
Sionidedave, http://ubuntuguide.org look for extra repositories on that11:02
ikmodbernarl, I havent no ;) I'll check it11:02
eligo to system11:02
atevesyes11:02
frank_ikmo or there is a firefox extension which is pretty good11:02
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ikmofrank_ , many thanks I'll check that too11:03
dbernar1im on debian right now, and the gnome on x is sooo buggy, I think, or my install was shitty...11:03
HappyFoolgood night11:03
elipreferences11:03
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ikmofrank_ what's it called?11:03
elisessions11:03
davei don't have a web browser yet.11:03
elithird tab on right11:03
tritiumdave, the ubuntuguide is not the best to follow.11:03
weiersHi... could I ask some advice. I just downloaded the latest OOO2 Beta files because I find that the ones in Synaptic repositories are seriously broken. I need to now unzip and "alien" them into debs before I install. Please advise which would be the best directory to create. Do I unzip them into /home folder or into one of the /usr directories or where?11:03
ateveseli: aaaaah!11:03
elistartup programs11:03
ateveseli: thx11:03
davetritium: so i hear11:03
eli:)11:03
dbernar1ikmo, you want a real one? check synaptic...11:03
ateveseli: so easy :)11:03
frank_ikmo: I don't rememeber ;-)11:03
eliyes yes, i had the same realization11:03
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ateveshehe11:03
davetritium: i can start doing stuff for myself as soon as i get a web browswer11:03
tritiumdave, not a problem at all11:04
_mikeweiesrs, if you have broken packages do apt-get install -f <package>11:04
dbernar1home is as good as anywhere...11:04
Flynn_Hi, is it advisible to download firefox from mozilla.org instead of installing it from the repositories?11:04
davetritium: i would install a web browser but i do not know how to make apt-get ..go11:04
crimsunFlynn_, no it's not advisable to do that11:04
tritiumdave, need help configuring apt?11:04
dbernar1dave, sudo aptitude update11:04
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dbernar1uncomment main11:04
davedbernar1: will do11:04
ikmodbernarl, how do you mean "a real one" ?11:04
dbernar1comment out the cd.11:04
eliFlynn why do you need the newer version: you can get up to 1.0.4 on the backports11:04
daveoh ok11:04
daveit did a bunch of stuff11:04
dbernar1after, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop is it?11:04
daveis aptitude an apt-get replacement?11:05
_mikeanyone here experienced in installing custom kernels? im editing my grub config file now but i have a quick question11:05
dbernar1just a user front end.11:05
tritiumdave, ppoe is in universe, so you'll need to uncomment those lines too11:05
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MarcCdo you guys have traceroute on your system?11:05
dbernar1dave, I dont know much, I just use it...11:05
tritium_mike, if you use kernel-package to build your custom kernels, it takes care of grub for you11:05
elianyone know if breezy is stable yet?11:05
dbernar1 /topic...11:05
weiers_mike ... I don't think there is something wrong with the OOO2 in the repositories except that it acts very strangely (shuts down when I print, one moment it starts with a neat user interface, the next time it is some ancient monotype font etc.) I've been advised on the OOO mailing list that I should try to install a later version of the package I think it is 1.9.8811:05
dbernar1breezy is stable on 5/1011:05
davewhat is the difference between universe and the "fetch updated software from the network"11:06
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tritiumdave, yes, aptitude is great, imho11:06
ikmofrank_ thanks, d4x looks good, downloading now :) the Ubuntu64 ISO in fact :P11:06
daveis universe like, unstables?11:06
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frank_ikmo great!11:06
Flynn_Thanks, crimsun. Do you suggest upgrading firefox by just 'apt-get install mozilla-firefox' in the shell?11:06
elithanks dbernarl11:06
dbernar1@tritium-imho...11:06
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dbernar1bah11:06
dbernar1nice.11:06
zerboxxI find totem (default video player) is out of sync, any help on fixing this, or should I just get xine?11:06
MarcCis traceroute working for anybody?11:06
crimsunFlynn_, it's already installed if you installed Ubuntu.11:06
tritiumdbernar1, ?11:06
ikmofrank_ how are you, anyway? :)11:07
crimsunFlynn_, if you installed Kubuntu, then yes, you will need to use aptitude/apt-get/dselect/Synaptic/Kynaptic to install it.11:07
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eliwhat 5/10 in eurpean style or american? october 5th or may 10th?11:07
confreyhi everybody11:07
elioctober yes?11:07
crimsuneli, October of this year (2005)11:07
Flynn_Right, but it isn't the latest version.. 1.02 and I can't install any of the extensions.11:07
tritium!firefox11:07
dinmay 1011:07
Sionide!info mozilla-firefox11:08
ubotumozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 8581 kB, Installed size: 24100 kB11:08
frank_ikmo: good... do I know you?11:08
weiersdbernar1:   I take it then that the package will integrate properly with the rest of the environment if I install it from /home. (I once did it with thunderbird in Mandrake 10.1, and I could never get thunderbird to open links to webpages etc.)11:08
eliFlynn_ get the backports for your repository list and then do apt-get dist-upgrade11:08
elii have 1.0.4 firefox11:08
davei've decided i am too lazy to do this.11:08
Sionidetritium, you after that?11:08
davei will do a default install. brb.11:08
tritiumSionide, no, not that.11:08
KyralFlynn_, its a bug11:08
ikmofrank_ no.. just sparking up conversation :) haven't been in here a while, wanted to make a friend, how sad lol11:08
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dbernar1weiers, I think I spoke to someone on this channel, and we figured that exact thing with thunderbird.11:09
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dupshas anyone seen firefox crash after installing the libflash-mozilla plugin11:09
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dbernar1out11:09
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TerminXdin: may 10?  more like the 10th month of the year 200511:09
dbernar1ikmo, yes, pretty sad.11:09
elidups i saw that happen with w32codecs11:09
dinTerminX, ummm 5/10/2005 != october 5th11:09
Flynn_alright, eli. thanks, will do.11:10
ikmodbernarl, no one asked you :P j/k11:10
concept10are the new mozilla updates in the repos (FF and TB)?11:10
dupseli: yeah it's weird I just tried to install it, no problem of course with apt-get but now if I go to a page that plays flash it crashes11:10
TerminXdin: he's referring to breezy release11:10
dbernar1mouse scroll button should be integrated with the console to scroll...good idea, eh?11:10
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elidups did you follow the !codecs link for flash?11:10
weiersdbernar1, interesting. I was really frustrated, and that is why I actually switched to ubuntu. (Strange reason!)... I am so happy with Ubuntu, it is just that I want to work with a newer OOO than the 1.1.3 that is provided in the repositories. The 1.9.113 that is in the repository is just very unstable.11:10
tritiumSionide, he used to repy about the security fixes in 1.0.4 being backported into 1.0.2, and how to configure the vendor sub...11:10
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LuNaTiK^GuYhow does 3ddesktop work??11:10
dbernar1din.......11:10
LuNaTiK^GuYhow can i see its effect?11:11
TerminXaka Ubuntu 5.10 (duh) which is scheduled for.. get this.. October 2005 (duh)11:11
eli3ddesktop works great11:11
SionideLuNaTiK^GuY, got it installed? go to a terminal and type "3ddesk"11:11
dbernar1you turn it on, and it works perfect.11:11
concept10dbernar1, it is, you mean the terminal?11:11
dupseli, no11:11
dupseli: and I'm unfamiliar about what you're talking about11:11
LuNaTiK^GuYohh i was trying "3ddesktop" :)11:11
elidups folllow the ubotu link11:11
eli!codecs11:11
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:11
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dbernar1TerminX: duh..11:11
concept10Does anyone know if the new Firfox and thunderbird releases are in the repos?11:11
franckhi all, i'm new here11:11
LuNaTiK^GuYholy cow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11:11
Flynn_eli, are you sure it's 'apt-get dist-upgrade'? Hmm.. I'm not willing to go experimental, at least not at this stage.11:11
LuNaTiK^GuYthis is cute!!!11:12
elii have 3ddesktop on my computer and it works good11:12
tritiumconcept10, no, not yet11:12
benplauthi frank11:12
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TerminXdbernar1: he didn't seem to get it.11:12
LuNaTiK^GuY3ddesktop works great!!11:12
dbernar1LuNaTiK^GuY: 3d<tab>11:12
elii did, and i have no problems11:12
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dbernar1ok, he got it after...11:12
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elii guess its the risk you want to take11:12
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franckis there way to get packages from universe localized ?11:12
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concept10Tip for you 3ddesk users: man 3ddesk and take a look at the different switches11:12
eliif you feel a bit suicidal you can always download breezy ;-)11:12
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to|mIs there a way to install Linux Ubuntu from windows without a CD or CDRW ?11:13
LinuxJonesfranck, you want other Ubuntu machines to upgrade from a local repo on your own network ?11:13
luminerdHello, what makes Ubuntu special?  I am considering it for a 25+ system network11:13
eliconcept10 : do you use 3ddesk --acquire=0 ?11:13
benplautsomebody explain to to|m netinstall11:13
benplauti don't know much about it11:13
qt2is there an easy way to restore audio on an ubuntu system to its state from when it was first installed?11:13
scifiordiehas anyone had trouble reinstalling windows after installing ubuntu?11:13
concept10eli, nope I was really talking about 3ddesk --mode=priceisright11:14
franckno, I want my software to speack french11:14
to|mbenplaut: have just the pc here11:14
^thehatsrule^scifiordie: no, thats the easiest11:14
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elii use that too11:14
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to|mbenplaut: no network:(11:14
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eliu have gdesklets startbars for 3ddesk - works like a charm11:14
frank_franck: don't know... maybe they try to follow your localisation, if they can. J'utilise juste l'anglais.11:14
LinuxJonesfranck, do you have the French language support installed ?11:14
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iobosswhat means "Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library"? how i can do to support them?11:15
scifiordiethehatsrule :   i have tried every variation i can think of and no good11:15
concept10I dont use it anymore, the daemon causes cpu hits11:15
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franckYes, I have french language installed. Works great for main, but universe package are in english11:15
eliluminerd: i would like to help you, but i dont know much about IT work and how it does on a 25+ system11:15
luminerdeli, ok, thanks11:15
eli3ddesk? or gdeklets concept10 ?11:15
concept103ddesk11:16
luminerdAnyone else know if Ubuntu would be good for such a setup?11:16
eliluminerd: i do know that is very stable and doing updates is very easy on the systems11:16
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LuNaTiK^GuYany cool stuff i can install in gnome to make it more Mac OS like?11:16
elii stopeed the cpu spikes with 3ddesk11:16
eliworks good now11:16
concept10eli, it takes constant screenshots11:16
elithats why i do - > 3ddesk --acquire=011:17
errorlevelIs there an ubuntu install CD that will download packages online like the Debian net install CD?11:17
elionly takes screenshots when transitioning from one page to another11:17
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elierrorlevel, there is but i dont know much about it. check out the wiki site on ubuntu for it11:18
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Kyraloooo11:18
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LuNaTiK^GuYcongrats to whoever is into this ubuntu project11:18
franckPackages like wxvlc, multisync, gtk-gnutella are not localized...11:18
LuNaTiK^GuYits awesome11:18
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eliLuna - install gdesklets11:18
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tubixhi, i have some problems with the sound on ubuntu, the sound works but not on any game, or any music player. Any idea please ?11:18
franckThey are on Sid ...11:18
elidont install gdkeskelts - data though11:18
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eliget the stuff for it off the gnome gdesklets site11:19
elitubix whats the problem?11:19
iobossguy.. :(11:19
errorleveleli: I'm looking through the wiki but I only see something called "NetbootInstallHowto" which isn't what I want.  I can boot just fine from my CD-ROM drive.11:19
iobosswhat means "Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library"? how i can do to support them?11:19
luminerdIs ubuntu user friendly enough to be no-terminal-needed?  there will be many newbies working on these systems, people who've used windows forever...will they be able to accomplish the task of surfing the web and editing word documents/excel spreadsheets?11:19
root__I'm having a little trouble with library paths on Ubuntu 64. When trying to run ATI:s control panel application I get told that libexpat.so.0 is not found, but it resides in /usr/lib and is found by ldconfig....how to make it understand the lib is there??11:20
elierrorlevel - then im clueless sorry i could help =S11:20
LuNaTiK^GuYluminerd, yes ;)11:20
elicould not11:20
tubixeli, my sound card doesnt works on any games eor music players, but i can hear the sound on ubuntu (like the startup sound)11:20
LuNaTiK^GuYi came from windows....tried a gizillion distros...ubuntu/kubuntu are perfect11:20
eli!alta11:20
ubotuWish i knew, eli11:20
eli!sounds11:20
ubotuI haven't a clue, eli11:20
luminerdLuNaTiK^GuY, ok, so Fedora and Ubuntu are about level right now in my eyes...can someone tell me why Ubuntu is better than Fedora specifically?11:20
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elifedora is brutal in installation files vs. ubuntu11:21
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elisynaptic is much more advanced11:21
LuNaTiK^GuYluminerd, i never liked fedora....its a bit sluggish...to bloated...full of stuff that i dont need11:21
LuNaTiK^GuYand synaptic is AWESOME11:21
elitubix you may have a problem with the sound driver called ESD11:21
elicheck out on the wiki site about ALTA and ESD11:21
LuNaTiK^GuYbut11:22
luminerdLuNaTiK^GuY, what is synaptic?11:22
LuNaTiK^GuYfedora has a better setup11:22
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tubixeli, ok thx11:22
LuNaTiK^GuYanaconda installer should be part of the next ubuntu11:22
tritiumluminerd, it's a front-end to apt, the package tool used in debian/ubuntu11:22
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eliluminerd : also ubuntu recognizes hardware waaaaaay better than fedora11:22
LuNaTiK^GuYluminerd, Syntaptic is similar to Add/Remove programs in windows11:22
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eliand you have better group of helpful peole like here in the irc chat and ubuntuforums11:22
LuNaTiK^GuYonly WAY better11:23
elilots of documenations11:23
luminerdI see11:23
elitubix - happy to help :)11:23
luminerdWell, Fedora's yet to provide any reason why it's better11:23
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LuNaTiK^GuYthey said mandrake/mandriva was easy....i tried it...it was semi-ok....but Ubuntu is just enjoyable!!!11:23
qt2is there an easy way to restore audio on an ubuntu system to its state from when it was first installed?11:23
ateveseli: still there?11:23
eliluminerd i went originally with fedora, but i had a lot of problems with it (software and hardware on laptop) and then to ubuntu11:24
elinever left since11:24
eliateves11:24
eliyep11:24
ateves:)11:24
elistill here11:24
elitriggy ?11:24
ateveseli: does that autostart stuff work with scripts, too?11:24
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frank_qt2 I don't know11:24
Kyralehh11:24
luminerdWell, I'll be back later, thanks for the help11:24
eliateves, i would imagine it could if you have your scripts correctly loaded11:25
Kyralis the g++-4.0 package stable?11:25
tritiumqt2, what exactly changed?  How was it modified?11:25
elino problem luminerd11:25
eligood luck11:25
LuNaTiK^GuYluminerd, windows may still seem simpler...if u just try linux for 2 hours and leave it there......but with time....i got to love ubuntu.....i dont use it full-time...but i'm aiming at that...and keep windows for games....until Longhorn comes...i'll see from there11:25
eliLuNa you could use cedega for games11:26
LuNaTiK^GuYi just prefer Windows's performance11:26
tritiumKyral, see /topic re: breezy11:26
eliim not a gamer myself but i do know that cedega is pretty good11:26
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KyralI'm not USING Breezy11:26
KyralI'm just building the FireFox 1.0.5 from the breezy Source repos and it needs GCC411:27
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tritiumwell, hoary doesn't have g++-4.011:27
Kyralwhich are all in Backports....so I think its safe11:27
davehello folks11:27
davei am ubuntu!11:27
elicool :)11:27
elion gnome now?11:27
daveif this is really a "for everyone" distribution, i think the installation should be a little more simplified.11:27
KyralHere goes!11:27
LuNaTiK^GuYubuntu should introduce a totlally i686 compiled version...like Yoper11:28
elidave : i agree on that. they are working on that for the next release in breezy11:28
Kyralwait, GCC4 won't replace whatever GCC I have now, right?11:28
LuNaTiK^GuYit would then be a 100% winer11:28
iobosshow i can do a script? i dont find a wiki.. :(11:28
eliKyral ... no clue :S11:28
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Kyraloh well11:28
benplautLuNaTiK: Winner ;)11:28
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benplautyes, it would be11:28
benplauti would love that11:28
Kyralthis is why I put my /home on a separate partition11:28
eliioboss did you look on ubuntuforums?11:28
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iobossi go.. :D11:29
daveis there some sort of global config for gnome?11:29
LuNaTiK^GuYbenplaut, yes...its the only thing to reach now.....a more snappy distro11:29
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elidave : what do you want to change?11:29
ypergood evning11:29
davethis ridiculous menu system11:29
elishortcuts on the keys and such?11:29
elii know dave, i changed that too11:29
daveand the taskbar-like thing11:29
MrGardenHoseManwhat's the best way to copy data over wrom a windows's drive11:30
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MrGardenHoseManfrom*11:30
daveMrGardenHoseMan: i would use the copy command11:30
iobossthere isn't nothing..11:30
Kyralmount the drive11:30
MrGardenHoseManlol11:30
ioboss:11:30
daveseriously though, mount the drive and copy it11:30
dbernar1I know what the guy on ubuntuguide can add...how to remove backports from your repos...11:30
iobossbut i can do a file bat as in win?11:30
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davei would just like to say, you guys are very helpful11:30
Kyralwhy remove Backports?11:30
dave#debian threw me out because i was an idiot11:30
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daveand #gentoo are elitists who think they know the answer when they dont11:30
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Xyc0hello everyone11:31
tritiumKyral, because they're unofficial, and make upgrading to new releases difficult11:31
Xyc0wow 4 ops11:31
LuNaTiK^GuYi have a stupid question thats worth having an answer ;)11:31
elishoot11:31
LuNaTiK^GuYAre Ubuntu guys in war with Kubuntu ones?11:31
Kyraltritium: I've never had problems with them :D11:31
elinope11:31
elinot me11:32
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: no11:32
eliim gnome, but i like kde too11:32
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yperHi there i need some help, On my laptop currently running ubuntu hoary I've lost the |<> key functionality in X. I have PC105 as xkbd in xorg.conf. Any ideas?11:32
KyralJust the ages old KDE vs. GNOME war11:32
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the same distro11:32
eliwhy battle on it? why not merge it?11:32
Xyc0eli: so we have choise11:32
daveXyc0: a minute ago i was told they were the same thing11:32
davesorry, i was told they were two dists11:32
KyralUbuntu uses GNOME as default11:33
MrGardenHoseManwell here's another fine question for you all, how do i mount a drive that's not even there :x11:33
LuNaTiK^GuYthey are the same project11:33
Xyc0Linux is all about choice11:33
davei need less mouse sensitivity11:33
KyralKubuntu uses KDE as default11:33
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LuNaTiK^GuYwith preferences on the desktpo manager11:33
Kyralother than that, samething11:33
Xyc0MrGardenHoseMan: your going to have to give a bit more info then that11:33
yperno brilliant ideas??11:33
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eligo to system > preferences > look for hte mouse option11:33
Super_BQhi11:33
MrGardenHoseManwell11:33
Kyralhell you can install KDE on a Ubuntu install and vice versa11:33
MrGardenHoseMani've got xp installed on the otehr drive11:33
Xyc0You can install KDE on ubuntu, its really easy11:33
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MrGardenHoseManwhen i was isntaling ubuntu11:34
elioh its ntfs11:34
MrGardenHoseMani instaled grub11:34
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KyralMrGardenHoseMan, you have to find out what its /dev entry is11:34
LuNaTiK^GuYok another fun question11:34
MrGardenHoseManit gives an option to boot to xp11:34
Kyralthen make a mountpoint11:34
MrGardenHoseManbut it doesn't work11:34
eliMrGardenHoseMan : do you have the winmac sh file?11:34
LuNaTiK^GuYwhen will linux beat M$ on the desktop?11:34
MrGardenHoseManwhat i'd like to do is mount that drive11:34
eliautomatically mounts drives11:34
MrGardenHoseManand copy over all the files11:34
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: It does already11:34
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LuNaTiK^GuYLOL11:34
LuNaTiK^GuYi meant..in a global manner11:34
davemaybe you guys can answer this one11:34
KyralWe REALLY need an easy mountpoint maker/manager11:34
Xyc0MrGardenHoseMan: So tell me what you are really trying to do11:34
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY:  It dowa11:35
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: Does*11:35
MrGardenHoseMani have no idea lol11:35
elihttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab for MrGardenHoseMan11:35
Super_BQcan someone show me a link where I can make Ubunto as a stand alone router ?11:35
MrGardenHoseManwell11:35
MrGardenHoseManfor one11:35
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: go to europe, see how many people use M$11:35
ilba7rany one know what is the default font implemented in ubuntu to be used by gnome11:35
LuNaTiK^GuYi am European11:35
LuNaTiK^GuY:)11:35
tombshi ppl11:35
MrGardenHoseManhow do i make the drive show up next to all the other drives11:35
LuNaTiK^GuYa lot still use M$11:35
LuNaTiK^GuY:(11:35
Proteque_LuNaTiK^GuY: not here.11:35
eliMrGardenHoseMan, the winmic_fstab does that11:35
Xyc0MrGardenHoseMan: WinXP usues NTFS format11:35
frank_Germany is the country I saw with the most linux11:36
MrGardenHoseManyeah11:36
MrGardenHoseMani heard you can still read from it11:36
Proteque_LuNaTiK^GuY: I work for a "county" in norway. we hardly use windows.11:36
daveof course.11:36
Xyc0MrGardenHoseMan: Even if you mount it, you cannot write to it yet, it is Read Only11:36
eliyou can read it11:36
elibut you cant write on it11:36
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LuNaTiK^GuYIndustry uses Linux a lot11:36
MrGardenHoseManthat's fine with me, all i need to do is copy the files over11:36
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MrGardenHoseManwon't be doing any writting11:36
LuNaTiK^GuYbut the avergae Joe still uses Windows for everything11:36
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: England uses linux ins schools now11:36
elimost scientific institutes as well11:37
davethis is going to be difficult to figure out11:37
KyralHooray! My current GCC wasn't overwritten!11:37
LuNaTiK^GuYour university (malta) is still biased with Windows11:37
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Xyc0MrGardenHoseMan: Then youll want to google "mounting NTFS"11:37
LuNaTiK^GuYalthough we have a lot of linux practice11:37
iobosseli... can you help me?11:37
MrGardenHoseManhmm good idea11:37
eliioboss whats up?11:37
Xyc0MrGardenHoseMan: I can help you once you've read more into iy11:38
elii can always try :)11:38
Xyc0it*11:38
yperI guess my question won't be answered here =(11:38
davewow11:38
LuNaTiK^GuYso wot about the 92% dominance M$ has?11:38
elithe grand solution people to mounting drives is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab11:38
LuNaTiK^GuYis it a lie?11:38
davegnome is unfortunate11:38
tritiumyper, what was your question?11:38
davei want a window list on the right side11:38
daveit's not fair11:38
iobosseli i can't do script.. :11:38
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KyralFF 1.0.5 compiling11:38
eli!script11:39
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, eli11:39
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: show me where it says that11:39
ypertritium: I seem to have lost my "<>|"-key in x11:39
elihmm11:39
tritiumdave, the window list can be moved11:39
LuNaTiK^GuYstuff like "The Inquirer"11:39
daveright, but the panel won't go more than 120px11:39
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: Show me the URL11:39
tritiumyper, oh, that's a tough one ;)11:39
davei think i need another window manager11:39
LuNaTiK^GuYi dont have the url...i read it a long time ago11:39
LuNaTiK^GuYfor example...when MAC shifted to x86....11:39
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LuNaTiK^GuYthere was an article11:39
LuNaTiK^GuYthat said11:39
ioboss!script11:40
ubotuioboss: No idea11:40
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ioboss?11:40
LuNaTiK^GuYWindows was first...Linux second...and Mac trailing behind11:40
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: I'm just saying, it's one thing to say statistics, its quite another to prove it.11:40
ioboss!script11:40
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ypertritium: yup, been struggling with that for a while ;), the issue is only on my laptop that uses XFCE..11:40
eliioboss what kind of script do you want to write?11:40
eliim not very familiar with normal scripts11:41
elii write some stuff for a scientific program and thats about it11:41
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LuNaTiK^GuYXyc0, but there is this thing.....that ppl cant stand about linux in general..."Why does my hardware work at once with windows...and y do i get probs with any linux distro?11:41
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eliubuntu works good11:41
elino hardware probs11:41
lcharly_TheOnehow can i add font types .tff???11:41
davethe main issue i have with migration is the programs.11:42
LuNaTiK^GuYi still didnt get my 5.1 channels to work11:42
elifor sound?11:42
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: Well sure, M$ is easy at first. But so is sticking your hand in a wood chipper.11:42
LuNaTiK^GuYthe only issue till now11:42
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LuNaTiK^GuYyes11:42
ypertritium: the reason for XFCE is that it is quite an old and I have to spare the RAM =)11:42
LuNaTiK^GuYi only get 2 channels working11:42
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: I can help you with that11:42
eliXyco : that is a great statement11:42
tritiumyper, oh, okay11:42
elii will remember that one11:42
LuNaTiK^GuY10q Xyc011:42
frank_LuNaTiK^GuY: yeah you have to buy hardware that you know is supported11:42
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LuNaTiK^GuYfrank_, u can't tell ppl to buy stuff coz Linux says so....it is Linux that must allow it (in the future)11:43
eliadios people11:43
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Xyc0frank_: Nah, you just have to be willing to learn11:43
davethats true11:43
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LuNaTiK^GuYXyc0, how can i  get 5.1 to work?11:43
davei dont want to be limited to nvidia :)11:43
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: what kind of sound card?11:43
frank_LuNaTiK^GuY: well when some hardware vendors support linux and some don't the choice is clear11:44
Xyc0ATI works great11:44
LuNaTiK^GuYits an onborad sound card11:44
LuNaTiK^GuYon an ASUS P4P800 mobo11:44
iobosseli thnx.. i do.. i'm newbie, sprry11:44
iobosssorry11:44
DragaHmm.. Could someone help me? I tried Ubuntu 5.1 live-cd and it boots but when it start loading OS it just went black... Nothing happens after that11:45
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Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: What sound driver do you use?11:45
XhyldazhKHi all!11:45
LuNaTiK^GuYALSA11:45
ypertritium: no ideas?11:45
XhyldazhKHow do I find all deb packages such that no other package depends on them?11:46
tritiumyper, no, I'm sorry11:46
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: in terminal "alsamixer"11:46
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Dragaand 64bit live-image. I use Hp pavilion zv6028ea computer (laptop) AMD 64bit 3200, Ati radeon xpress200m...11:46
ypertritium: ok thanks anyway for the shown interest =)11:46
LuNaTiK^GuYdone11:46
DragaDoes someone know what is the problem?11:47
LuNaTiK^GuYcard Intel ICH511:47
LuNaTiK^GuYchip ANALOG DEVICES AD198511:47
Xyc0then you want to un mute Analog/Digital11:47
tritiumyper, :)11:47
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DragaCould someone help me... Linux noob :>11:47
LuNaTiK^GuYXyc0, where is that?11:48
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: keep moving to the right11:48
davehow do you get a windowlist out of a gnome panel?!11:48
davethere we are. the surface area is like one pixel.11:48
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davei am liking this ubuntu stuff so far.11:48
abarbacciahey - if ubuntu mounted a usb device, what would the /dev/ listing be under?11:49
davesda11:49
dave?11:49
daveand if it's already mounted, can't you just type mount to list it?11:49
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LuNaTiK^GuYXyc0, i dont have an Analog/Digital entry11:49
Toba /dev/sda11:49
DragaCould someone help me11:49
Tobamine is there11:49
LuNaTiK^GuYbut i do have a lot of Spread front to centre lfe etc etc11:49
LuNaTiK^GuYwots that?11:49
TobaDraga: what do you nead help WITH?11:49
snackalotdraga ill try11:49
abarbacciathanks dave and Toba11:49
Tobaym11:49
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davegnome has focus problems in the menu.. can i fix these?11:50
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Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: Sorry, im not on my ALSA puter right now, so your going to have to look around and see what to unmute, you unmute by pressing M11:50
LuNaTiK^GuYthanks :)11:50
LuNaTiK^GuYi'll try some combinations11:50
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DragaCould someone help me? I tried Ubuntu 5.1 live-cd and it boots but when it start loading OS it just went black... Nothing happens after that and 64bit live-image. I use Hp pavilion zv6028ea computer (laptop) AMD 64bit 3200, Ati radeon xpress200m...11:51
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Gouramiquestion: can a daily cron job be set to mail you a completion status ?11:52
Xyc0Draga: What ATI are you using?11:52
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DragaXyc0 it said ATI radeon xpress 200mobility :)11:52
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DragaDoesnt support yet?11:53
Xyc0No, i just didnt know what M stood for11:53
DragaAh..11:53
Xyc0Draga: But that could be the case, ATI doesnt have the best linux drivers11:53
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abarbacciaanybody use a rio carbon with ubuntu?11:54
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Xyc0Draga: did you try installing Ubuntu?11:54
LuNaTiK^GuYLinux should also try to speed up bootup speeds......11:54
LuNaTiK^GuYon high end systems...M$ has the edge11:54
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: Why, its 2x faster then M$11:54
DragaXyc0: I'm trying the live-64bit because i want to know if it works11:54
kutucapegnome is slow on my PIII 1 GHz11:55
LuNaTiK^GuYXP takes less time to boot for me11:55
LuNaTiK^GuYon my P4 3.00 Ghz11:55
funkyHatLuNaTiK^GuY, there are other reasons why linux takes longer than windows to boot11:55
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LuNaTiK^GuYfunkyhat, can they be resolved?11:55
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: are you talking about Linux, or Gnome?11:55
Gouramiquestion: can a daily cron job be set to mail you a completion status ?11:55
woodwizzleis there a good gui program I can use to transcode/burn DVDs?11:55
LuNaTiK^GuYWindows comes with a GUI11:56
LuNaTiK^GuYso i include gnome yes11:56
DragaDamn... It just starts loading the OS but downloading sometime and here comes the blackout11:56
funkyHatsame as there are reasons for why linux goes down at least 10x as fast11:56
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funkyHat:)11:56
LuNaTiK^GuYthat is true funkyhat ;)11:56
frank_woodwizzle: the easiest way I found was to use dvd shrink with wine11:56
daveLOL11:56
DragaSo no one knows what's wrong?11:56
davethat's embarrassing11:56
LuNaTiK^GuYbut....11:56
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LuNaTiK^GuYif Ubuntu followed Yoper's example11:57
LuNaTiK^GuYbootup speeds are awesome on that O/S11:57
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woodwizzlefrank: Well, I don't want to copy DVDs, I'm talking about burning files that I've downloaded from online. Stuff like music videos and live bootlegs, not whole DVDs11:57
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Proteque_anyone know if it possible to setup the raid on old ibm servers when I miss the serverguide cd?11:57
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dinbbl time to go home11:58
DragaThere isn't anyone that could help me?11:58
ColonelKernelim trying to make sure 1024x768 only runs @ 100hz - ive used gtf to generate a modeline but it doesnt seem to be working. I have disabled dpms and turned on IgnoreEDID on the nvidia driver. I beg for help11:58
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snackalotwhat a shame11:58
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Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: What are you trying to get at?  Do you have an actual point, or are you just trolling?11:59
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DragaCould someone help on my problem... I need help for god sake :>11:59
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LuNaTiK^GuYno.....i'm just saying that after trying several distros..............Ubuntu is awesome11:59
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desrtColonelKernel; the X server will automatically select the highest possible refresh rate for each mode from the hsync/vsync params you supply11:59
LuNaTiK^GuYand some speed could make it even more awesome11:59

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