[12:00] <Knowledge_> desrt: Good call....good call
[12:00] <Antinomy> nalioth: on windows, I used to just DL an exe file and slap it on the desktop, double click and install. Things seem a tad more complicated with Ubuntu.
[12:00] <Knowledge_> so anyone know how to do a boot splash for ubuntu?
[12:00] <nalioth> Antinomy: system > admin > synaptic package manager
[12:01] <nalioths_dog> Antinomy: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:01] <desrt> nalioth; if you're fortunate enough to have the piece of software you want packaged by ubuntu
[12:01] <signbarn> Knowledge_: I only know how to do a splash screen on GRUB for ubuntu
[12:01] <Knowledge_> nalioth: unless you have to use tar.gz
[12:01] <nalioths_dog> Antinomy: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:01] <Antinomy> nalioth: ok, what is that?
[12:01] <kevin> I am going to try and use wine to run a chat program from the windbloas front but am not sure how to do it yet and my desktop has suse 9.2 pro on it so I will wait for a while before I do it.
[12:01] <Knowledge_> signbarn: meaning right before it stars loading everything?
[12:01] <nalioth> Antinomy: synaptic is a frontend to apt-get, the package manager (the way we install software)
[12:02] <Antinomy> ok
[12:02] <signbarn> Knowledge_: i dual boot with xp, so it gives me a choice between operating systems -- and that has a nice splash screen behind it
[12:02] <desrt> nalioth; apt-get and synaptic are actually both front-ends to the same library
[12:02] <hmrocha> nalioth, thanks, i did that but the site is down
[12:02] <Knowledge_> signbarn: yeah, I used the how to in ubuntuguide...false hopes
[12:02] <hmrocha> nalioth, he doesn't have internet at home
[12:02] <Antinomy> nalioth: so, when I want a certain piece of software, I locate it in the repositories and use synaptic to dl it?
[12:02] <kevin> I like synaptic, much easier thn apt-get and it you don't have to remember how to spell things
[12:02] <desrt> (namely, libapt-pkg)
[12:03] <nalioth> desrt: apt-get is the package manager, synaptic, kynaptic, aptitude, and <ugh>kpackage are all frontends for it
[12:03] <nalioth> Antinomy: yes
[12:03] <desrt> nalioth; not really :)
[12:03] <Knowledge_> Antinomy: when I want to install something I search synaptic first....it really does have a lot of stuff
[12:03] <desrt> nalioth; apt-get is the same thing as synaptic
[12:03] <Antinomy> nalioth: ok, so should I play around with that first?
[12:03] <nalioth> desrt: clarify with another knowledgable user, please
[12:03] <Antinomy> Knowledge_: Ok thanks - start there?
[12:03] <desrt> namely, a front-end to libapt-pkg
[12:03] <nalioth> Antinomy: yes, play with it
[12:04] <Knowledge_> Antinomy: I normally do
[12:04] <desrt> nalioth; sorry.  i thought you were
[12:04] <hmrocha> nalioth, i'll try uninstalling and installing again
[12:04] <Knowledge_> because you can't really mess things up
[12:04] <Antinomy> nalioth: apt-get is a gui interface for apt-get, a program that helps you dl repositories - correct?
[12:04] <Knowledge_> with tar.gz you somewhat can
[12:04] <hmrocha> nalioth, maybe that way it will put the deb file in /var/cache/apt
[12:04] <nalioth> desrt: you normally dont invoke librarys to perform things
[12:05] <Knowledge_> unless yo'ure me
[12:05] <desrt> nalioth; right.  you have to use one of the front-ends like apt-get or synaptic
[12:05] <nalioth> Antinomy: see what i wrote above to desrt
[12:05] <desrt> nalioth; and they use the library
[12:05] <Knowledge_> then you wonder why you feel like reinstalling your OS
[12:05] <desrt> and ultimately, everything calls dpkg
[12:05] <funkyHat> Antinomy, apt-get is a command line front-end to libapt-pkg, as nalioth said
[12:05] <nalioth> desrt: yes, thank you
[12:05] <Antinomy> Got it.
[12:06] <nalioth> guys, this is way complicated for new users
[12:06] <desrt> nalioth; well.. it doesn't really matter
[12:06] <funkyHat> and synaptic is a graphic front end to the same thing
[12:06] <desrt> nalioth; if you use synaptic then you don't need to care about apt or dpkg or anything else
[12:06] <nalioth> they don't give a fsck about the golforsaken librarys that run things
[12:06] <ateves> hi! i wanted to install gstreamer0.8-mad via apt, but it was not found. what do i have to add to sources.list?
[12:06] <desrt> nalioth; it just works :)
[12:06] <nalioth> desrt: he's a brand new *nix user
[12:06] <nalioth> desrt: he deosnt need to know the bloody C code that runs the sunuvugun
[12:06] <Antinomy> <playing with synaptic>
[12:07] <desrt> nalioth; omiting information for new users is fine... most people don't care.  providing inaccurate information isn't good, though
[12:07] <nalioth> thank you
[12:08] <Knowledge_> sooo.....about that bootsplash for weakness
[12:08] <Knowledge_> anyone have any ideas/
[12:08] <desrt> :)
[12:08] <Knowledge_> lol
[12:08] <desrt> Knowledge_; i guess you'd have to load it into grub somehow
[12:08] <Knowledge_> hmm
[12:08] <desrt> either that or recompile your kernel with it :/
[12:08] <desrt> but, obviously, it needs to have it around when it's booting... and that's the only two ways to do it
[12:08] <Knowledge_> nooooooo I've had terrible luck with those 2 words
[12:08] <kevin> ughhh I hate recompiling the kernel, takes wayyyyyy to long for this old thing lol
[12:09] <Knowledge_> recomile and kernel
[12:09] <desrt> :)
[12:09] <Knowledge_> not my favorite words in the same sentence
[12:09] <desrt> hah.  i just googled
[12:09] <desrt> first couple of pages i found are like "and then i recompiled my kernel..."
[12:09] <kevin> knowledge: 'nor mine lol
[12:10] <Knowledge_> man I tried doing that with my alps touchpad....it worked.....but tpconfig STILL didn't recognize my alps...and on top of that...I lost my wifi card....
[12:10] <Knowledge_> pfft....no more kernel recompiling unless I know what the commands I'm copying and pasting do
[12:10] <Knowledge_> ;-)
[12:10] <kevin> knowledge: I remember that
[12:10] <desrt> Knowledge_; a good policy, generally speaking :)
[12:11] <Knowledge_> yeahhh, kevin you're the one that has the same problem with the video mode being messed up, no?
[12:11] <mumbles> anyone need to restart into wi9ndows for a while
[12:11] <kevin> nope
[12:11] <Knowledge_> oh
[12:11] <Knowledge_> wrong person
[12:11] <Knowledge_> haha
[12:11] <kevin> yup lol
[12:11] <mumbles> might be me
[12:11] <mumbles> couse ive had video problems a few weeks back
[12:12] <mumbles> restarting --
[12:12] <kevin> I now have iceWM running and it had spead this old laptop up a little bit
[12:12] <Knowledge_> yeah, when my laptop shuts the screen off...and I open it...it screws up the desktop
[12:12] <Din> haz
[12:12] <Knowledge_> actually...it screwes everythign
[12:12] <Din> need help
[12:12] <Din> [*]  Acting as MAIN
[12:12] <Din> [+]  Config loaded
[12:12] <Din> [*]  Opening listening socket at 193.77.83.28:4444
[12:12] <Din> [-]  Cannot open socket (Cannot assign requested address)
[12:12] <Din> what do i do
[12:12] <supernix> Uptime: 6 days, 2 hours and 21 minutes
[12:12] <desrt> Din; a little context plz?
[12:13] <supernix> :)
[12:13] <Din> running in untudo live cd
[12:13] <Din> and i want to test one irc bot
[12:13] <Knowledge_> untudo?
[12:13] <Din> but i can-t connect
[12:13] <jimmy> hi i just aptgetted  kubuntu-desktop and my gnome is not working anymore any idea why ? ( yes i can log in with gnome-failsafe)
[12:13] <desrt> Din; what IP is 193.77...?
[12:13] <Belutz> anyone, can i make the grub looks more interesting?
[12:13] <Din> of mz router
[12:13] <nalioth> jimmy: specific failure point? what happens?
[12:13] <jimmy> Blissex: you can add splash images
[12:13] <desrt> Din; ok.  you can't bind to an IP on your router
[12:14] <desrt> Din; the bot needs to bind to a local socket
[12:14] <desrt> Din; and you setup port forwarding on your router
[12:14] <Din> ok
[12:14] <jimmy> nalioth: i just try to log in with gdm and i just see a brown screen
[12:14] <jimmy> mouse is visible
[12:14] <desrt> so like 192.168 or whatever
[12:14] <Din> i think that i know what to do
[12:14] <jimmy> are there any gnome logs ?
[12:15] <funkyHat> jimmy, did you accidentally uninstall gnome?
[12:15] <Lone_Striker> is linux stable enough not to have any security sofware, if it isn't what are some that you guys are using?
[12:15] <nalioth> Lone_Striker: security softwar?
[12:15] <jimmy> funkyHat: no i can log in with gnome- failsafe
[12:15] <desrt> jimmy; what is your system date/time?
[12:15] <Lone_Striker> yeah like anti-virus and such?
[12:15] <nalioth> Lone_Striker: by default, your ubuntu box is a black hole on the network
[12:15] <jimmy> desrt: Wed Jul 20 00:15:41 CEST 2005 it seems to be correkt
[12:15] <jimmy> s/k/c
[12:15] <nalioth> Lone_Striker: there  are no known virus for linux
[12:16] <desrt> jimmy; the only time i've ever seen that happen with gnome was when the date was in the past
[12:16] <desrt> jimmy; *shrug* :)
[12:16] <Antinomy> nalioth: ok, i think i get it. Syn is basically my window to all of the updates and new apps that are available from the universe; I could also get them by going to the command line and using "apt-get"
[12:16] <Lone_Striker> nice, so is there it is not necessary to have any those of software?
[12:16] <nalioth> Antinomy: yes
[12:16] <Lone_Striker> excellent
[12:16] <Antinomy> nalioth: multi too?
[12:16] <Lone_Striker> just switched to linux today
[12:17] <nalioth> Lone_Striker: not unless you want to run everything you get via p2p thru a antivirus b4 you send it to your windows using friends
[12:17] <nalioth> Antinomy: yes
[12:17] <supernix> lol linspire sells anti-virus software
[12:17] <jimmy> desrt: its on a laptop so the default ntp sync with the ubuntu time server is not working becaus inet aint set up at boot time
[12:17] <nalioth> supernix: lets not speak of linspire, they run default as root
[12:17] <Antinomy> nalioth: thanks - I just DLed and installed my first app!
[12:17] <Lone_Striker> well, then what are some of those softwares?
[12:17] <desrt> jimmy; it only happens if the date is older than the installed bonobo server files
[12:17] <supernix> ouch
[12:17] <desrt> jimmy; so it'd have to be at least a few months off
[12:18] <jimmy> i will try to rename my .gnome folder
[12:18] <Lone_Striker> what are some p2p software that works with linux
[12:18] <nalioth> Lone_Striker: like what?
[12:18] <wrtpeeps> do i need a certian lib installed to use the make command?
[12:18] <desrt> get .gnome2 and .gconf too
[12:18] <wrtpeeps> Lone_Striker: limewire
[12:18] <Lone_Striker> limewire works with linux?
[12:18] <nalioth> Lone_Striker: amule, gtk-gnutella, dcgui, bittorrent
[12:18] <nalioth> Lone_Striker: if you enable java
[12:18] <Lone_Striker> where could I get limewire?
[12:18] <funkyHat> Lone_Striker, aMule, gnutella, bittorrent
[12:19] <wrtpeeps> emule too
[12:19] <nalioth> wrtpeeps: install "build-essential"
[12:19] <funkyHat> gnutella uses the same network as limewire
[12:19] <Lone_Striker> i have been using limewire so where could i get it for linux?
[12:19] <funkyHat> and doesn't ask you to 'upgrade to pro'
[12:19] <nalioth> Lone_Striker: its the same app, java apps are portable
[12:19] <Lone_Striker> oh
[12:20] <vader> glad I saw that ? about security, I keep forgetting to install clamav, doing it now though
[12:20] <Lone_Striker> so do i have to download java first or just use what comes with limewire?
[12:20] <nalioth> !java
[12:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[12:21] <nalioth> brb
[12:22] <supernix> I thought we just got finished saying there was no viruses for Linux so why have clamav ?
[12:22] <vader> I have for that all inclusive "just incase"
[12:22] <funkyHat> supernix, for the sake of friends running windows, you wouldn't want to accidentally forward them a virus. and ^^what he said
[12:22] <desrt> supernix; clamav is usually run on mailservers
[12:22] <Lone_Striker> what anit-virus/spyware program would you recommend if you use p2p and need to scan the files?
[12:23] <jimmy> well the renaming of the .gnome* files didnt help seems to be a system config fault
[12:23] <desrt> supernix; windows clients fetch mail from linux mailservers frequently
[12:23] <desrt> supernix; using linux doesn't magically shield all your windows boxes from viruses too....
[12:23] <SogniX> I have installed samba and shared a few folders - but I can't seem to connect from a remote computer... what step am I missing?
[12:25] <vader> is that a good reason for using clamav?
[12:25] <Lone_Striker> is clamav a security program?
[12:25] <vader> antivirus
[12:26] <funkyHat> Lone_Striker, linux is pretty secure firewall-wise anyway, if you want some more control, firestarter is good
[12:29] <vader> wow! this is getting better by the day; just got an email from a DIE hard windblows customer who wants me to setup Ubuntu on his pc, Finally got the worst spyware person to listen to reason
[12:30] <FlyingSquirrel32> does anyone know nis?
[12:30] <IIIEars> vader - Hey - After a dozen hours long windows rinstalls wore him down.
[12:30] <IIIEars> lol
[12:31] <FlyingSquirrel32> anyone know ldap
[12:31] <vader> IIIEars: uh hu, his last bill was close to 200.00
[12:31] <ptlo> i have ubuntu (hoary) on my desktop machine. it isn't powered on 24 hours a day - so, when i boot it up the system runs updatedb .. which is fine by itself, but the whole system slows down then :) is there a (nice) way to disable this?
[12:33] <admrl_> can anyone help me w/ printer drivers my parents were using a dell printer and i couldnt get it working w/ ubuntu so i switched to an old DeskJet 722C and it like cuts out half way thru printing something sometimes and i need to restart the computer and it wont print in color
[12:34] <IIIEars> Not even scheduled backups using disk imaging will keep a windows machine safe. - too many hacks out there.
[12:34] <vader> right you are IIIEars
[12:35] <admrl_> can no one help me..?
[12:36] <vader> I make one image of the windows boxes, if they add to it, they will have to re-add when I am done
[12:36] <vader> admrl: i know nothing of printing in Linux... sorry
[12:36] <admrl_> do you know where i could go to find out
[12:37] <admrl_> ive spent HOURS on google lol
[12:37] <vader> here: they just needto see the question again probly
[12:37] <PlanarPlatypus> admrl_, this being the buggy HP Deskjet 722C
[12:37] <admrl_> im notgoing to keep asking since its such a long question
[12:37] <vader> this is a good group and will do what they can to help
[12:38] <admrl_> we used to use it w/ a 98 box and it worked fine
[12:38] <admrl_> it has to be the driver
[12:38] <PlanarPlatypus> admrl_, which driver is it using?
[12:38] <vader> bbiab need to help with dinner
[12:39] <admrl_> ummm one second
[12:40] <admrl_> HP Deskjet 722C Foomatic/pnm2ppa
[12:40] <aikendrum> I have an old Chicony lappy I wanna put Ubuntu onto, but I cant boot from cd....Any ideas of a boot disk guys..? When i put windoze on it , the only boot floopy that worked was the Xp ones....
[12:40] <admrl_> aikendrum have you checked your bios
[12:40] <admrl_> so u know its bootable
[12:40] <admrl_> well you are booting from the cdrom
[12:40] <aikendrum> yeah, no mention of the pcmcia cd till windows :-(
[12:41] <esierra> i have a problem with my fonts
[12:41] <Lone_Striker> how do you install java on ubuntu?
[12:41] <keknehv> Hello... I know this isn't really an ubuntu question, but is there a distribution of linux that would run passably on a 486? (66Mhz)
[12:41] <Wckdkl0wn> how to i unzip a tar.gz file?
[12:41] <keknehv> Use file roller
[12:41] <keknehv> Or gzip2
[12:42] <ptlo> Wckdkl0wn: in shell: tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[12:42] <bockman> Wckdkl0wn, on terminal: tar -xvzf whatever.tar.gz
[12:42] <admrl_> in kde you can just right click on it
[12:42] <admrl_> and click unzip
[12:42] <jimmy> desrt: it is really strange i can log into gnome with kdm but not with gdm :)
[12:42] <Wckdkl0wn> ty
[12:42] <keknehv> Ah, there you go
[12:42] <funkyHat> Lone_Striker,
[12:42] <funkyHat> !java
[12:42] <ubotu> [java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[12:42] <keknehv> I knew it was something >_<
[12:42] <ptlo> Wckdkl0wn: the switches mean: x (extract), v (verbosely), z (zipped by gz), f (file named): file.tar.gz
[12:42] <ptlo> Wckdkl0wn: other notable switch for tar is 'c' (create) which is used to create *new* archives
[12:43] <esierra> my fonts look ugly in a lcd
[12:43] <Lone_Striker> what's the difference between linux rpm and linux?
[12:43] <PlanarPlatypus> admrl_, interesting, linuxprinting.org lists it as working perfectly.  You say it won't print in color and it cuts out half way through printing
[12:43] <bockman> ptlo, don't forget j which unzips bzip2 archives
[12:43] <ptlo> bockman, *nod*
[12:43] <PlanarPlatypus> do you mean stops half way through a page or mid larger print run?
[12:43] <benoitldr> join #ubunut-fr
[12:43] <keknehv> Lone_Stricker: An rpm is a specific package management tool
[12:44] <keknehv> Lone_striker: Which is used in Red Hat and Mandrake (among other) distributions.
[12:44] <IIIEars> Lone_Striker - Do you need to install an RPM - "alien" will do it.
[12:44] <fred__> hello
[12:44] <esierra> anyone ?
[12:45] <fred__> esierra?
[12:45] <fred__> how are you
[12:45] <esierra> yes
[12:45] <Lone_Striker> what is rpm?
[12:45] <esierra> i need help with my fonts
[12:45] <fred__> rpm is paquet for mandrake
[12:45] <funkyHat> Lone_Striker, rpm is similar to deb
[12:45] <funkyHat> it is a package
[12:45] <fred__> yeap
[12:45] <funkyHat> stands for redhat package manager
[12:46] <Wckdkl0wn> how do i install xchat plugins?
[12:46] <Lone_Striker> thanks
[12:46] <ex-parrot> help.... I seem to have horribly broken my Ubuntu install
[12:46] <funkyHat> if you need to install one, use alien -i foo instead of dpkg -i foo
[12:47] <IIIEars> e3x-parr, - what is your question? - how can we help?
[12:47] <ateves> what RSS reader do you use?
[12:47] <ex-parrot> I was messing about with theming and XFCE, and themes stopped working mysteriously
[12:47] <ex-parrot> now everything has the default GTK theme, and half my apps refuse to load
[12:47] <cut0ff> ateves I'm wondering the same
[12:48] <munki> Anyone had any luck with AverTV E500 TV-Card +Tuner in ubuntu ?
[12:48] <ateves> i just found straw for gnome
[12:48] <funkyHat> Wckdkl0wn, where are the plugins you want to install?
[12:48] <ex-parrot> when I load the program for selecting UI I get a flash of theming on the system tray then nothing
[12:48] <Wckdkl0wn> on desktop i just untared the file
[12:48] <tuxhagen> Lone Stricker: rpm is a package management concept created by the redhat disribution.each package contains binairy files and config infos, documentation an infos about dependencies or conflicts to/with other packages, nearly similar to deb (created by debian
[12:48] <IIIEars> ex-parrot - there is no doubt a better way than using synaptic to reinstall XFCE4 but, thats what i would do.
[12:48] <ex-parrot> IIIEars, it affects Gnome too though
[12:48] <cut0ff> what's the best RSS reader?
[12:49] <desrt> jimmy; hah.
[12:49] <desrt> jimmy; that's pretty special :)
[12:49] <Burgundavia> cut0ff, liferea and blam are quite popular and work well
[12:49] <cut0ff> Burgundavia thanks mate
[12:49] <ex-parrot> I'm going to try making a new username
[12:50] <ateves> i'll check liferea now
[12:50] <mumbles> how do i connect to a server via ssh ?
[12:51] <flipy> mumbles: ssh ip
[12:51] <funkyHat> mumbles, # ssh ip
[12:51] <mumbles> ive tired ssh -d 1000 user@doname.net
[12:51] <cafuego> or ssh user@host (if you have a different remote username)
[12:51] <mumbles> i have a starnge port
[12:51] <mumbles> its for my eggdrop :p
[12:52] <ex-parrot> evidently it's a problem with just my username
[12:52] <cafuego> ssh -p 1000 user@host
[12:52] <herzi> mumbles: you configure your eggrop via ssh?
[12:52] <funkyHat> mumbles, #ssh -D 1000 -l user domain.net
[12:52] <mumbles> erm
[12:52] <mumbles> ops
[12:52] <mumbles> good point Heart_
[12:52] <mumbles> herzi, even
[12:52] <mumbles> tellnet :p
[12:52] <herzi> yep
[12:53] <herzi> or ctcp chat
[12:53] <mumbles> but i needed ssh help anyway
[12:55] <flipy> is there any way to uninstall a package without all the ncurses?
[12:55] <flipy> I've got a problem with drupal, which won't unistall without first asking the user and pass for mysql, which is not installed
[12:56] <IIIEars> Does SSH need RAW socket support in XP? - couldn't get it to work for file transfers. (turned off raw socket support in XP.)
[12:56] <cafuego> flipy: That means it not properly installed yet to begin with.
[12:56] <cafuego> flipy: You can remove the drupal.postinst file from /var/lib/dpkg/info, then remove drupal.
[12:56] <flipy> cafuego: ok thanks, that's what I was looking for!!!
[12:57] <flipy> cafuego: can I remove anything that relates to drupal?
[12:58] <cafuego> flipy: such as?
[12:58] <hamster> hi there - I have a Synaptic Package Manager problem. When I 'Apply' I am asked to insert installation CD. I do insert in CDROM and I get the message 'W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog'
[12:58] <mumbles> to used to puties easy setup
[12:58] <mumbles> wah
[12:58] <flipy> .list .conffiles .preinst .templates .config .md5sums .postrm
[12:58] <mumbles> laggy lag lag lag?
[12:58] <cafuego> flipy: No, just postinst
[12:59] <cafuego> flipy: The rest will be removeed when you uninstall drupal
[01:00] <flipy> cafuego: it pops up the ncurses stuff
[01:01] <cafuego> flipy: Naugty. Can you add 'exit 0' as line 2 in drupal.preinst ?
[01:01] <IIIEars> the spreadfirefox site was hacked last week (sql/drupal)
[01:01] <cafuego> flipy: if it still does it then, also add it in the prerm
[01:01] <Lone_Striker> help, i just install ubuntu, everything worked except there is not soud in general and when you play music?
[01:01] <flipy> ok
[01:02] <flipy> thanks a lot
[01:03] <IIIEars> Lone_Striker - Cuz' i'm new i needed a gui "cheat" installed XMMS to give graphical access to sound configuration
[01:03] <flipy> still asks it
[01:03] <cafuego> flipy: Are you sure it's drupal doing it?
[01:03] <flipy> yes
[01:04] <flipy> gonna change drupal.prerm
[01:04] <A[D] minS> GUYS I have dpkg: error processing gaim-pt_1.3.2-1_i386.deb (--install):
[01:04] <A[D] minS>  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/gaim', which is also in package gaim
[01:04] <cafuego> odd though, prerm shouldn't ask config questions...
[01:04] <A[D] minS> what i can do to install this package
[01:05] <cafuego> A[D] minS: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/gaim-pt_1.3.2-1_i386.deb
[01:05] <cafuego> A[D] minS: (at the shell, via sudo)
[01:05] <flipy> cafuego: done. i've modified .postrm
[01:06] <nekrataal> hey
[01:06] <cafuego> flipy: Did that stop it asking the questions?
[01:06] <nekrataal> i have a question
[01:06] <flipy> yes
[01:06] <Lone_Striker> what is the XMMS
[01:06] <cafuego> Lone_Striker: xmms is a media player (like winamp)
[01:06] <nekrataal> when i installed ubuntu i made no partition on the hard drive, but now i need to partition it, is there any way to do this without loosing ubuntu?
[01:06] <cafuego> used to be called linamp. There's also beep-media-player - which is based on xmms.
[01:06] <Lone_Striker> it is one of the package huh, i see it
[01:07] <MIK3MAN> can someone plz tell me if ubuntu has a firewall system and how to disable it to allow traffic to pass through
[01:07] <flipy> thanks a lot cafuego, i've been with this for almost a week
[01:07] <cafuego> flipy: :-)
[01:07] <Lone_Striker> what do you do after you install it?
[01:07] <nalioth> MIK3MAN: all linux have iptables, you can read this for some more info http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[01:07] <LasseL> MIK3MAN, i don't think there is a firewall on by default
[01:08] <Quest-Master> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=262544#post262544
[01:08] <cafuego> Lone_Striker: You run it.
[01:08] <funkyHat> nekrataal, yes, it's possible, but not from inside ubuntu (the partition you are shrinking can't be mounted)
[01:08] <nalioth> MIK3MAN: LasseL is correct, by default your system is open to the world
[01:08] <cafuego> Lone_Striker: It should be in Applications -> Multimedia
[01:08] <Lone_Striker> would it work; it is installing now
[01:08] <nalioth> cafuego: may i PM you?
[01:08] <cafuego> nalioth: Do yer worst
[01:08] <Lone_Striker> since in general i have not sound
[01:08] <nekrataal> funkyHat, how?
[01:09] <nekrataal> funkyHat, a bootable disk?
[01:09] <cafuego> Lone_Striker: No reason it wouldn't, provided Linux supports your sound card.
[01:09] <MIK3MAN> nalioth: thanks, I have my bittornado up and running, but I am firewalled and I am sure that I have the proper ports forwarded on my router
[01:09] <overlade> someone know how execute Kguitar under gnome (sorry for my english) ?
[01:09] <nalioth> cafuego: i ask now b/c i've PMd you b4 and was ignored, so i'm giving a heads-up this time
[01:09] <MIK3MAN> nalioth: I'll check out the ip tables
[01:09] <funkyHat> nekrataal, yes i think you could use an ubuntu bootable disk
[01:09] <nalioth> MIK3MAN: i find port forwarding a pita, i'd DMZ your whole ubuntu box
[01:09] <LasseL> Lone_Striker, did you try alsamixer ?
[01:09] <Lone_Striker> you sure it supports the compaq presario 5280 onboard soundcard
[01:10] <cafuego> nalioth: I'm often online but afk and/or auto-ignore non-verified users.
[01:10] <Lone_Striker> what's alsamixer?
[01:10] <funkyHat> guys, can you install packages on-the-fly on ubuntu live CD?
[01:10] <nalioth> funkyHat: yes you can
[01:10] <nekrataal> funkyHat, ok, ill see what i can do
[01:10] <LasseL> Lone_Striker, a program where you can adjust the volume
[01:10] <funkyHat> nekrataal, boot to the live cd, and install gparted
[01:10] <MIK3MAN> nalioth: hmm, never thought about that, do you support DMZ, I mean have you had any security issues?
[01:11] <Lone_Striker> let me see
[01:11] <nalioth> MIK3MAN: if all you are running is bittornado, you have no vulnerabilitys that i know of
[01:12] <nekrataal> ok
[01:12] <Hilferd> WE IS LUSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!WE IS LUSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!WE IS LUSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!WE IS LUSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!WE IS LUSER'S!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:12] <desrt> Hilferd; i agree.
[01:12] <funkyHat> lmao
[01:12] <Hilferd> desrt IT'S GOOD!
[01:12] <Lone_Striker> where is alsamixer?
[01:12] <MIK3MAN> nalioth: Im going to try that then thanks, but I still think I have to browse those IP tables cause I know the proper ports are forwarded
[01:12] <Lone_Striker> is it one of the packages?
[01:12] <desrt> Hilferd; go join #lusers and talk to all 0 of your friends about it
[01:12] <nekrataal> can it be installed without mount the hard drive
[01:13] <desrt> Lone_Striker; hm.  /usr/bin? :)
[01:13] <funkyHat> nekrataal, yes
[01:13] <desrt> Lone_Striker; it's part of ubuntu-base, so it should always be installed
[01:13] <desrt> even on server
[01:13] <nalioth> MIK3MAN: i dont think you should bother with iptables
[01:13] <funkyHat> nekrataal, it will be gone when you reboot though obviously
[01:13] <nalioth> MIK3MAN: i'd check your router, instead
[01:13] <Hilferd> desrt OK
[01:14] <Lone_Striker> how do I acccess it then
[01:14] <Azmodan> I just installed Ubuntu on a new machine and I got a problem.  The screen turns blank when it should start gdm and writes "sync off-limit".  The LiveCD do likewise.  Any clue ?
[01:14] <ateves> when will breezy be released?
[01:14] <desrt> ateves; early october
[01:14] <ateves> desrt: thx
[01:14] <pax> Azmodan: /etc/X11/xorg.conf correct your sync
[01:14] <MIK3MAN> nalioth: I will just try DMZ, standby
[01:15] <Azmodan> pax: I do I do it ?
[01:15] <Hilferd> RUSSIA SMILE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:15] <pax> Azmodan: it's not as hard as you might think. just bacl the conf file
[01:15] <cavediver> Anyone good at tv-out and Nvidia ? I have an annoying problem. The size of the disktop is crazy on my tv.
[01:16] <desrt> Hilferd; if you upgraded from your C64 you could get a keyboard capable of both upper- *and* lower-case letters
[01:16] <MIK3MAN> nalioth: Im gonna send you a link hold on
[01:16] <Azmodan> pax: Ok, I get it.  Thanks
[01:16] <A[D] minS> GLib 2.0 is required to build Gaim; so whats da name of this packlage?
[01:17] <desrt> A[D] minS; apt-get build-dep gaim
[01:17] <desrt> A[D] minS; this will install everything required to build gaim for youirself
[01:17] <Hilferd> desrt WAT ARE YOU WOANT?
[01:17] <A[D] minS> desrt, i want to isnatall Glib not gaim
[01:17] <desrt> A[D] minS; why?
[01:18] <Lone_Striker> i see it, I will try to open it
[01:18] <mumbles> sigh
[01:18] <MIK3MAN> nalioth: you have PM off?
[01:18] <nalioth> MIK3MAN: read your status window
[01:18] <A[D] minS> cause i want to install it
[01:18] <desrt> A[D] minS; there are 3 different glib packages depending on what you want to do
[01:18] <mumbles> got to go into london latertoday- hayes  to westminster
[01:18] <A[D] minS> desrt, am compiling gaim support paltalk got it?
[01:18] <Lone_Striker> i see alsamixer
[01:18] <desrt> A[D] minS; got it
[01:18] <Lone_Striker> how do you use it
[01:18] <A[D] minS> now?
[01:18] <desrt> A[D] minS; now, type sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[01:18] <A[D] minS> loooooool ok
[01:18] <A[D] minS> thx desrt
[01:18] <desrt> np.
[01:19] <Lone_Striker> it says executable but when i press it, nothing happens
[01:19] <desrt> A[D] minS; build-dep will install all of the development libraries you need to build a package for yourself
[01:19] <desrt> A[D] minS; including glib and all the others
[01:20] <cavediver> Noone have the same problem with Nvidia tv-out, that only half the desktop shows on your TV ?
[01:20] <cavediver> Or have had.
[01:21] <flipy> is there any way to know if a package is installed following a pattern?
[01:21] <vladuz976> does anybody know where the "~"home key is on dvorak?
[01:22] <MIK3MAN> nalioth: xchat is different than mirc, I didnt whois you, anyways I guess I will just paste the link in the chan. Here is whats going on... I have bittornado up and running on ubuntu. I chose bittornado because of the advanced features so that I know what is going on with the trackers and stuff. If you are fimiliar with bittornado you will know that a "yellow" light means that you are being firewalled or have port problems. Here comes th
[01:22] <MIK3MAN> e link...
[01:22] <desrt> vladuz976; same place as qwerty
[01:22] <Antinomy> anyone want to help a n00b with his first tar?
[01:22] <desrt> vladuz976; oh.  you're .uk, right?
[01:22] <cafuego> flipy: dpkg -l | [e] grep <foo>
[01:22] <flipy> thanks cafuego
[01:22] <desrt> shift + it's top-left key
[01:22] <desrt> like, the weird -\ symbol
[01:22] <vladuz976> desrt: oh so that is one difference betweenn us and uk
[01:22] <desrt> vladuz976; ya
[01:22] <desrt> in US it's ` / ~
[01:22] <nalioth> Antinomy: open a terminal
[01:22] <MIK3MAN> this forum has a test .torrent file that gives you a reading
[01:23] <MIK3MAN> http://forums.degreez.net/viewtopic.php?t=1457&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
[01:23] <desrt> instead of 
[01:23] <Antinomy> nalioth: ok
[01:23] <Antinomy> nalioth done
[01:23] <nalioth> Antinomy: go to the dir where the tar in question resides
[01:23] <Antinomy> ok one sec
[01:23] <vladuz976> desrt: i am getting confused and i don't get that symbol
[01:24] <desrt> vladuz976; ah.. i thought that key on .uk keyboards was the not symbol
[01:24] <Antinomy> nalioth ok done
[01:24] <MIK3MAN> nalioth: even with my system on DMZ I am still getting a message saying that I am firewalled or my ports are not configured
[01:24] <nalioth> Antinomy: what kind of tar is it?
[01:24] <Antinomy> nalioth .gz
[01:24] <mumbles> to bed i go
[01:24] <MIK3MAN> nalioth: we can rule out ports if I am DMZ
[01:24] <vladuz976> desrt: i don't get it with any combo. that is an important key
[01:24] <vladuz976> shoot
[01:24] <flipy> is there any package for drupal 4.6.2?
[01:25] <A[D] minS> desrt, do u know which package required for /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6:
[01:25] <nalioth> MIK3MAN: i believe you should research your router settings, b/c if you havent fiddled with your box's settings, that's where the problem lies
[01:25] <desrt> vladuz976; very odd
[01:25] <nitinshantharam> guys im getting error: method execution failed \_sb_.bat1._bst every 5 sec on m acer ferrari 4000 laptop
[01:25] <nitinshantharam> its an ACPI-1138 error
[01:25] <nalioth> Antinomy: your first tar.gz type "tar xvzf filename.tar.gz"
[01:25] <desrt> A[D] minS; grep /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list
[01:25] <vladuz976> desrt: so you press the left shift key plus the top most left key?
[01:25] <nalioth> Antinomy: and when that is done, type "man tar"
[01:25] <desrt> vladuz976; yes
[01:25] <desrt> vladuz976; either shift key
[01:25] <desrt> not escape, obviously
[01:25] <desrt> but the key beside 1
[01:26] <vladuz976> desrt: i get the same with or without shift
[01:26] <desrt> vladuz976; evil :(
[01:26] <Antinomy> ok done.  I've got a Name/synopsis/description going
[01:27] <Antinomy> nalioth sorry
[01:27] <MIK3MAN> nalioth: I disagree, I had this box up and running last week with Mepis (using fluxbox) with bittornado and there was no firewall. I never changed any router settings until now, I moved to DMZ.
[01:27] <desrt> A[D] minS; find it?
[01:27] <vladuz976> desrt: are you using US in gnome?
[01:27] <desrt> vladuz976; well... "canadian english keyboard"
[01:27] <desrt> which is basically american
[01:27] <A[D] minS> desrt, yes but alrady installed
[01:28] <desrt> A[D] minS; nod.
[01:28] <vladuz976> desrt: in my case the gnome input selector only gives me uk option and some norwegian stuff
[01:28] <desrt> A[D] minS; i think it's part of the base system
[01:28] <desrt> oh. weird.
[01:28] <A[D] minS> nod. ?
[01:28] <desrt> i wonder if maybe you need to install some other packages for the other layouts?
[01:28] <desrt> A[D] minS; it's already installed... should be part of the base system
[01:30] <carwis> Hi there, I am a linux newbie. I just downloaded the live dvd. I have a speedtouch broadband modem that I would like to get working on the live distro. I followed a guide found online, but it requires a reboot. I saved the configuration changes I made on a memory card. How do I boot up using these changes?
[01:30] <vladuz976> does anybody here know if there is separate packages for keyboard layouts?
[01:31] <funkyHat> can anyone help me with a bug report?
[01:31] <Burgundavia> funkyHat, sure
[01:31] <vladuz976> i searched with aptitude but found nothing
[01:31] <desrt> vladuz976; i wish i could be more help... i'm in breezy right now and keyboard layout stuff is totally fried :(
[01:31] <funkyHat> i tried filing it in bugzilla.ubuntu.org, but i got told it should go in the other bugtracker.... i'll just get the bugzilla link
[01:32] <desrt> it seems really weird that you only got norway in your list....
[01:32] <desrt> that list is huge for me
[01:32] <Burgundavia> funkyHat, can you link to the bug you filed?
[01:32] <desrt> did you try telling it that you have a normal 101 keyboard?
[01:32] <desrt> (ie: lie to it)
[01:32] <nitinshantharam> its an ACPI-1138 error
[01:32] <nitinshantharam> guys im getting error: method execution failed \_sb_.bat1._bst every 5 sec on m acer ferrari 4000 laptop
[01:32] <Antinomy> quick question - I unzipped the tar, and it created a folder on my desktop. It's the new firefox 1.0.5. When I click on the installer, it tries to install it to the desktop. What directory should I install it to?
[01:32] <funkyHat> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12789
[01:32] <vladuz976> desrt: not only norway, i have french norway, uk,  polish swedish for dvorak
[01:33] <Burgundavia> funkyHat, that needs to be filed in malone
[01:33] <nalioth> Antinomy: programs YOU install go in /usr/local/bin
[01:33] <desrt> vladuz976; try telling it you have a normal US 101 key keyboard
[01:33] <vladuz976> desrt: ok
[01:33] <Antinomy> nalioth: ok, so move it there?
[01:33] <Burgundavia> funkyHat, go to malone, create an account and file it there
[01:33] <nalioth> Antinomy: does it simply move or does it have associated files?
[01:33] <carwis> anyone know about boot time options for loading saved configurations [for Live CD distro] 
[01:33] <desrt> vladuz976; btw... where is ~ on UK?
[01:34] <vladuz976> desrt: changing the type of keyboard doesn' make a difference to the available langauges under dvorak
[01:34] <desrt> :(
[01:34] <Antinomy> nalioth: hmmmm. It just created a folder on my desktop. I can open a terminal and move it to /usr/local/bin. right?
[01:34] <Antinomy> nalioth or do I need to unzip it there?
[01:34] <desrt> vladuz976; i'm gonna go downstairs to my hoary box and check for you
[01:35] <nalioth> Antinomy: only the binary needs to go in /usr/local/bin, other libs and stuff go in other folders
[01:35] <vladuz976> desrt: thanks
[01:35] <desrt> ah.  wifi is great
[01:35] <Antinomy> nalioth: not sure what to do then.  Do I need to manually move all of these files? Or did the tar extract them to where they needed to go?
[01:36] <carwis> anyone know the boot time options for loading saved configurations [for Live CD distro] 
[01:37] <desrt> vladuz976; gr.  something is seriously messed here
[01:37] <desrt> it won't even let me add a new keyboard layout
[01:37] <nalioth> Antinomy: i dont use firefox, so am not sure. was there something wrong with the ff available by default?
[01:38] <funkyHat> Burgundavia, thanks :)
[01:38] <TOXiC^> how can i use ssh? i have installed ubuntu to this computer and i want to install gentoo to my other computer using ssh
[01:38] <vladuz976> desrt: hey something really weird. even when i switch back to qwerty it doesn't work. but the shift key works for everything else
[01:38] <Burgundavia> funkyHat, np
[01:38] <cut0ff> TOXiC^  type 'man ssh' in a terminal
[01:38] <Antinomy> nalioth: well, it wasnt the latest version.  And syn didnt have the latest. So I figured it would be a good way to learn how to extract a program from outside the syn
[01:39] <TOXiC^> cut0ff   i tried it but i didn't understand a thing about it :D
[01:39] <funkyHat> i think i filed it right :)
[01:40] <flipy> how can I set the root password for mysql?
[01:40] <nalioth> TOXiC^: ssh is installed by default
[01:40] <nalioth> Antinomy: well you've learned how to extract
[01:41] <nalioth> Antinomy: i'm just not familiar with the contents of the tgz
[01:41] <carwis> ok, now that you have scanned my pc, can someone help?
[01:41] <TOXiC^> nalioth   i know that but i just dunno how to use it
[01:41] <nalioth> Antinomy: and dont want to guess
[01:41] <A[D] minS> config.status: error: cannot find input file: intl/Makefile.in <---- what is that means?
[01:41] <nalioth> TOXiC^: open a terminal and type "ssh username@other.puters.IP.address"
[01:41] <Antinomy> nalioth: ok, thanks
[01:42] <cut0ff> TOXiC^ try to install 'openssh' client and server
[01:42] <TOXiC^> ok thanks
[01:42] <nalioth> Antinomy: you'll find here in linux, the latest isnt necessarily the greatest
[01:42] <vladuz976> desrt: hey i even have the same problem when i connect a differnt keybard
[01:42] <hondje> huh, scanned my pc?
[01:42] <desrt> vladuz976; i'm sorry.  i really don't have much experience with this sort of thing
[01:42] <vladuz976> desrt: the ~key stopped working no matter what keyboard is connected
[01:42] <nalioth> TOXiC^: you will definitely need a sshd on the gentoo-destined box
[01:43] <CarlFK> ssh client is installed by default, openssh-server is what isn't
[01:43] <desrt> vladuz976; my suggestion is to move to canada, reinstall your linux box, and then move back quietly
[01:43] <nalioth> guys, TOXiC^ is wanting to ssh INTO another box
[01:43] <vladuz976> desrt: i'll keep that in mind
[01:43] <cut0ff> nalioth huh sorry
[01:43] <TOXiC^> i did start the ssh server on the other computer
[01:43] <Gatton> Is there one place in Gnome where I can set my file associations?
[01:43] <MIK3MAN> nalioth: I got it working :O)    it needed DMZ and some tweaking in bittornado. Hope I can now get some decent speeds
[01:44] <nalioth> TOXiC^: then "ssh username@ip.address.of.puter" will do it
[01:44] <ateves> is anyone using any notifier apps for gmail?
[01:44] <desrt> Gatton; one place for all file types?
[01:44] <Antinomy> nalioth: I really just want to practice - I've loaded ubuntu on the desktop so I can screw around with it
[01:44] <nalioth> MIK3MAN: great!
[01:44] <desrt> Gatton; you can just set it on a type-by-type basis
[01:44] <Gatton> desrt, that would be ideal. basically I can't seem to find a way to tell Gnome to always open certains extensions with the same app
[01:44] <Antinomy> nalioth: so let me ask you this. If I want to DL a app that isnt in Syn, how do I do that?
[01:44] <nalioth> Antinomy: ok so read your "man tar" and pack it all back up
[01:44] <vladuz976> desrt: wanna know what happened?
[01:44] <desrt> Gatton; right click on the type of file in question and go to properties
[01:44] <Gatton> desrt, that would be a good workaround. but so far i haven't noticed how to do that. like when i right click and choose to open with a different app
[01:45] <desrt> Gatton; then check under the "open with" tab
[01:45] <Gatton> desrt, ok thanks
[01:45] <TOXiC^> is it ssh livecd@ip or ssh root@ip?
[01:45] <MIK3MAN> nalioth: if someone ever has questions on working bittornado just direct them my way, my chance at giving back to the chan
[01:45] <nalioth> Antinomy: i personally compile from source code
[01:45] <desrt> Gatton; then pick the radio button beside the application that you want
[01:45] <KB2000> ateves: i'm using gbiff... so i activated pop on my gmail... but i would really like a real gmail working thing :)
[01:45] <nalioth> TOXiC^: its your username on teh box
[01:45] <MIK3MAN> this channel has some great support
[01:45] <nalioth> TOXiC^: once you get access, you can always su or sudo
[01:45] <Gatton> desrt, can't believe I didn't see that tab! Thanks!
[01:45] <vladuz976> desrt: don't wanna know?
[01:45] <desrt> Gatton; no prob.
[01:45] <desrt> vladuz976; what happened?
[01:45] <ateves> KB2000: normally "mail-notification" should support gmail
[01:45] <TOXiC^> i havent changed the username on gentoo installation
[01:45] <ateves> but it doesn't work
[01:45] <MIK3MAN> gonna check my speed
[01:46] <nalioth> ateves: it's been reported tha mail-notification stopped working about a month ago
[01:46] <KB2000> ateves: yeah, i tried it and it did work once... but apparently not anymore... i'd die for an update :)
[01:46] <vladuz976> desrt: i removed the japanese language and now it's working... that's a bug
[01:46] <desrt> hah.  weird.
[01:46] <Antinomy> nalioth: do you know a good documentation on compiling/unzipping apps? I want to try to go outside the syn box
[01:46] <desrt> vladuz976; i didn't see you say it was working :)
[01:46] <nalioth> Antinomy: there is plenty to read at www.tldp.org
[01:47] <TOXiC^> ssh keeps asking a password.. but i haven't set a password :C
[01:47] <vladuz976> desrt: yes, working, finall. i'm happy. gonna do some "cd ~/" now
[01:47] <desrt> vladuz976; you know, you can always just type "cd" on its own :)
[01:47] <Burgundavia> KB2000, gmail changed their interface for that sort of thing
[01:47] <hondje> you can just type cd by itself to go to home
[01:47] <Antinomy> nalioth: thanks chief
[01:47] <KB2000> Burgundavia: yeah, but mail-notification SHOULD be updated :)
[01:47] <Burgundavia> KB2000, you can ask a motu nicer to move the Breezy package to hoary
[01:47] <nalioth> TOXiC^: that may be a problem
[01:47] <Wahyudi> checking for Berkeley DB... /usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.2
[01:47] <Wahyudi> checking for Qt... Qt not installed. Make sure Qt 3.x is installed before proceeding
[01:48] <Wahyudi> can help me
[01:48] <nalioth> Antinomy: we're here 24/7
[01:48] <Burgundavia> KB2000, or file a bug in malone
[01:48] <vladuz976> desrt: shoot you're right. then i am gonna use mv ~/
[01:48] <Antinomy> nalioth: you've been very helpful and patient
[01:48] <desrt> Burgundavia; that's extremely unlikely to actually happen
[01:48] <Wahyudi> what's that QT ??
[01:48] <KB2000> Burgundavia: is the breezy package working?
[01:48] <desrt> vladuz976; :)
[01:48] <Burgundavia> KB2000, don't use it
[01:48] <hondje> usb 3-2: config 1 interface 0 altsetting 0 has 3 endpoint descriptors, different from the interface descriptor's value: 2   <---anyone know wtf that means? :)
[01:48] <nalioth> Antinomy: you missed all the shouting
[01:48] <KB2000> Burgundavia: but does it work? hehe
[01:48] <Wahyudi> hello
[01:48] <Burgundavia> KB2000, it might
[01:48] <Burgundavia> KB2000, if you provide the patch, that would be good
[01:48] <Wahyudi> hellp me just for a moment pls
[01:48] <KB2000> Burgundavia: i don't like the word "might" :)
[01:48] <Burgundavia> so they only have to backport the fix
[01:49] <nalioth> Wahyudi: ask your question
[01:49] <Wahyudi> checking for Qt... Qt not installed. Make sure Qt 3.x is installed before proceeding
[01:49] <Wahyudi> what's that QT
[01:49] <KB2000> Burgundavia: see then there's the breathing and the.... :)
[01:49] <nalioth> Wahyudi: open synaptic and search for libqt
[01:49] <desrt> Wahyudi; are you trying to compile a KDE program?
[01:49] <Wahyudi> yes
[01:49] <Wahyudi> is kiosk
[01:49] <PlanarPlatypus> does anyone in here know how one would map an apple USB keyboard on an x86 computer?  Specifically I would like <alt>+3 to give me a hash symbol
[01:50] <desrt> is it not in apt?
[01:50] <Wahyudi> checking for Berkeley DB... /usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.2
[01:50] <Wahyudi> checking for Qt... Qt not installed. Make sure Qt 3.x is installed before proceeding
[01:50] <Wahyudi> i'm still
[01:50] <Wahyudi> many Qt in here
[01:50] <nalioth> PlanarPlatypus: in your keyboard layouts, choose macintosh
[01:50] <desrt> Wahyudi; you'll probably need a lot more than qt
[01:50] <PlanarPlatypus> nalioth, done that, problem is I then have no hash key
[01:50] <rasuhuru> say, anyone know any really good howtos for dual-booting ubuntu and xp on two drives?  google gives me too many to wade through.
[01:51] <carwis> anyone know about live cds?
[01:51] <nitinshantharam> guys my touchpad randomly stopped working
[01:51] <nitinshantharam> please help
[01:51] <KB2000> Burgundavia: i don't mind contributing a little here and there... but getting familiar with so many open source projects will take so much time...
[01:51] <nalioth> Wahyudi: you need libqt3(something)-dev installed
[01:51] <nitinshantharam> im on a acer ferrari 4000
[01:51] <Wahyudi> oh ic
[01:51] <Wahyudi> ok wait
[01:51] <desrt> Wahyudi; a good place to start would probably be the kdelibs
[01:51] <Burgundavia> KB2000, file a bug anyway
[01:51] <nalioth> PlanarPlatypus: hmm, it works on my ibook
[01:51] <Burgundavia> someone else may do it
[01:51] <carwis> i am on an acer ferrari 3200
[01:51] <KB2000> Burgundavia: hmm... i might
[01:51] <nitinshantharam> carwis can u tell me the driver u used in xorg.conf
[01:51] <desrt> Wahyudi; try installing kdelibs4-dev
[01:52] <PlanarPlatypus> nalioth, heh, thing is this isn't a mac, this might be the problem.  Right now I am suing the US layout which means I have no poind symbol
[01:52] <nalioth> PlanarPlatypus: i just switched to 'macintosh' t'other day (got tired of havin a keypad that didnt work)
[01:53] <ColonelKernel> Instead of using first in the list, suggest to define your LANG environment variable like this: LANG=en_US <----- how do I do this?
[01:53] <carwis> i wouldn't know where to start - I am a newbie. I just downloaded the live cd and it worked. but I am now trying to get the broadband modem to work
[01:53] <Wahyudi> 1 hours ?? to download it ????
[01:53] <nitinshantharam> carwis in the terminal type nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:53] <desrt> Wahyudi; qt/kde are huge
[01:53] <nitinshantharam> and scroll down to the Mouse section
[01:54] <desrt> ColonelKernel; sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[01:54] <nitinshantharam> and tell me what is listed under there
[01:54] <funkyHat> carwis, there are some ADSL modems that just aren't supported by linux
[01:54] <ColonelKernel> desrt, thanks
[01:54] <vladuz976> desrt: you know i rearanged my keys, they only bad thing is that the little bumps for orientationn are gone now
[01:54] <desrt> vladuz976; ya.  i hate that
[01:54] <KB2000> i'm sure if the mail-notification thing got enough donations the guy would love to do it... i wouldn't mind giving a little donation to get it working... but i probably wouldn't pay enough by myself to make him happy
[01:54] <desrt> vladuz976; it'd be nice if you could find people selling proper dvorak keyboards
[01:54] <desrt> vladuz976; but they all suck
[01:54] <vladuz976> desrt: maybe there is something u can buy
[01:54] <ateves> lord, i would kill for a gmail notifier ;)
[01:54] <vladuz976> desrt: u can
[01:54] <funkyHat> desrt, vladuz976, get a set of keyboard stickers :P
[01:55] <bimberi> Wahyudi: From what I can tell you'll need libqt3c102-mt (lots of qt3 runtime packages seem to depend on it)
[01:55] <carwis> this one is - I found drivers online - but I can't reboot because I lose my settings. How do you restore the saved settings?
[01:55] <vladuz976> funkyHat: yeah but will they cover the old ones
[01:55] <ColonelKernel> desrt, theres a bunch of the english ones checked
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> desrt: buy an IBM modelm
[01:55] <carwis> nitinshantharam: cant do that now - only have 1 pc - and running windows now
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> movable keycaps
[01:55] <desrt> ColonelKernel; after you go past that screen it will ask you which one you want to be default
[01:55] <funkyHat> vladuz976, does it matter? get ones in a bold colour
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> you can change the keyboard to be whatever
[01:55] <vladuz976> funkyHat: style
[01:55] <funkyHat> you could probably get ones that cover the tops of the keys too
[01:55] <philips> Is there anyway to recover from a bad Breezy X upgrade?  I just did it after seeing the WARNING
[01:56] <Discipulus> I went to install a python package
[01:56] <Discipulus> and I got an error
[01:56] <nalioth> philips: not that i know of. what went bad?
[01:56] <desrt> bimberi; that's included in kdelibs4, it seems
[01:56] <ColonelKernel> desrt, thank you
[01:56] <desrt> ColonelKernel; no prob
[01:57] <philips> nalioth: x-window-system-core has missing packages
[01:57] <desrt> ColonelKernel; you'll have to logout/in for the change to take effect
[01:57] <philips> nalioth: err dependencies
[01:57] <ColonelKernel> desrt, thanks again :D
[01:57] <bimberi> desrt: yes - but if he only needs qt ...
[01:57] <ColonelKernel> brb
[01:57] <desrt> bimberi; afaik, kiosk is a full-blown kde app
[01:57] <nalioth> philips: yes, xwindows is broken in breezy atm, the rest of the system works, i believe
[01:57] <bimberi> desrt: k
[01:57] <desrt> K :)
[01:57] <bimberi> :)
[01:58] <philips> nalioth: is there anyway to fix it... I have a broken system now
[01:59] <desrt> philips; are you running breezy?
[01:59] <KB2000> philips: the ubuntu breezy forum has lots of info to get your x system up and running... but it ain't easy :)
[01:59] <nalioth> philips: i'm not that knowledgable on breezy
[01:59] <PlanarPlatypus> nalioth, the problem is when i try and use the <alt> + 3 binding (aka mac) it gets hijacked by applications (eg xchat and bask)
[01:59] <funkyHat> i learnt dvorak the other week, i was well impressed with myself ^.^
[01:59] <desrt> philips; X is broken in breezy the past few days
[01:59] <desrt> philips; wait a day or two more and it will probably be fixed
[02:00] <crazy2k> I'm trying to find a package that Synaptic can't find for some reason. It's Firefox's translation to Spanish. The package is called: mozilla-firefox-locale-es-ar
[02:00] <crazy2k> How can I find it?
[02:00] <desrt> philips; i'm affected by exactly the same problem :)
[02:00] <philips> desrt: and you are just waiting it out?
[02:00] <nalioth> PlanarPlatypus: try using the windows + keypad layout (you are using a Apple keyboard with the number pad, right?)
[02:00] <desrt> philips; i've got my laptop to fall back on
[02:00] <axis^zzz> desrt,  how goes
[02:00] <desrt> axis; ok
[02:01] <nitinshantharam> can anyone help me with this dman touchpad?
[02:01] <KB2000> philips: i ran breezy for a while... it's possible but you have to follow the forum discussions and do a lot of tweaking to get it to work, but it's possible... :)
[02:01] <desrt> just doing the help channel thing :)
[02:01] <PlanarPlatypus> nalioth, yes, trying now
[02:01] <nalioth> crazy2k: they are behind on some translations
[02:01] <axis> desrt: hehe for sure :)  right on brotha.. :)  . I'm on my way out now.. cy'all latah
[02:01] <axis> paace
[02:01] <desrt> cha.
[02:02] <desrt> "why do people run breezy?"
[02:02] <crazy2k> nalioth, so? There's no way to get it? I mean, can't I install the same package but Debian's one?
[02:02] <PlanarPlatypus> nalioth, erm, I might be being dense here but I can't find the keyboard map you mentioned
[02:02] <KB2000> desrt: you can't help but get a little tempted by all the new packages :)
[02:02] <nalioth> PlanarPlatypus: i run a PPC, and am not that familiar with keyboard layouts, let me look
[02:02] <desrt> KB2000; :)
[02:02] <KB2000> i did :)
[02:02] <KB2000> but i'm running hoary now :)
[02:03] <desrt> i've gone back and forth a few times now
[02:03] <nalioth> crazy2k: you'll need to ask someone else for verification that the languange pack is ok to install from debian
[02:03] <desrt> i was running a strange hybrid for about a month, too :)
[02:03] <KB2000> hehe... ohh, that doesn't sound good :)
[02:03] <desrt> + pre-cvs gnome :)
[02:03] <KB2000> i'm doing the backports now :)
[02:03] <ColonelKernel> if I had a mac i'd put osx on it
[02:04] <desrt> backports are a good way to alleviate the breezy-lust :)
[02:04] <ColonelKernel> not bagging on linux or anything cmon its a custom build of freebsd just for macs
[02:04] <KB2000> it sure is... it's not quite enough... but it helps :)
[02:04] <KB2000> breezy-lust is actually a term... :)
[02:04] <crazy2k> Ok. Then I'll have to wait till they make the translation available. Thank you very much.
[02:04] <desrt> it is now :)
[02:04] <ctrlER> can someone help me with the following error: I did module-assistant fakesource and next module-assistant build loop-aes but it keeps telling me that  /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8-2-386 seems to contain unconfigured kernel source, how can i get a module to build using a stock kernel?
[02:04] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: i have a mac, and i'm running ubuntu
[02:05] <ColonelKernel> why?
[02:05] <desrt> nalioth; represent, brotha.
[02:05] <KB2000> desrt: just until the next release :)
[02:05] <cafuego> and so am I.
[02:05] <desrt> cafuego; represent, brotha.
[02:05] <ColonelKernel> I just dont understand the choice, it seems like a waste of good hardware
[02:05] <cafuego> Two, in fact (well, three)
[02:05] <ColonelKernel> macs are made for graphics and audio
[02:05] <huttan> Hello, can anyone help me getting my wireless networkcard working? It's a netgear WG511T
[02:05] <KB2000> desrt: then it's breezy-happiness and whatever-lust :)
[02:05] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: i look at it as a good use of good hardware
[02:05] <funkyHat> nalioth, do you dual-boot?
[02:05] <desrt> KB2000; nod.
[02:05] <Chinman> is the pybabelphish support to translate the english to chinese?
[02:05] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: Try running Tiger on a G4 1GHz and you'll understand.
[02:05] <desrt> (7 if you count the CPUs and not the boxes) :)
[02:06] <nalioth> funkyHat: i have that capability, but havnt booted into OSX since i got ubuntu
[02:06] <ColonelKernel> what is Tiger
[02:06] <jnk> ColonelKernel, the kind of custom freebsd where you have to pay an upgrade to tiger to get your tv output working...
[02:06] <desrt> ColonelKernel; os 10.4
[02:06] <ColonelKernel> ive put Jaguar on for people and was very impressed
[02:06] <kevin> okay back for a bit.....that is until my son bugs me for something else lol
[02:06] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: it's certainly pretty and polished, but fast it is not.
[02:06] <ColonelKernel> it even installs on systems below the min requirements, I put it on my ex-friends g3 laptop and it worked and worked well
[02:07] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: And with Ubuntu (or linux in general) you get a nicer choice of free apps.
[02:07] <desrt> cafuego; os 10.4.1 cleaned some stuff up
[02:07] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: also, OSX is bsd-based, so lots of really cool bsd proggys wont compile on it
[02:07] <OdiiN> can i set up swap  memory into a normal folder, nor in a separate partition?
[02:07] <ColonelKernel> yeah maybe but osx is what those killer mac recording and graphics apps are built for
[02:07] <jnk> ColonelKernel, also you don't have the full power of apt on os x (fink is really not the same thing9
[02:07] <cafuego> desrt: No, OS 10.4.1 (and 2) appear to be slower still.
[02:07] <ColonelKernel> dont get me wrong, the gimp is nice for a free product but photoshop it aint
[02:07] <nalioth> OdiiN: i believe only a partition
[02:07] <desrt> cafuego; not in my experience
[02:07] <cafuego> desrt: There's a massive performance hit between 10.3.9 and them.
[02:08] <desrt> cafuego; but admittedly i don't use them a whole lot
[02:08] <ColonelKernel> and cinelerra is definitely no avid
[02:08] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: if you are in the killer mac recording and graphics field, the mac is for you
[02:08] <desrt> i think most of tiger is a waste of time
[02:08] <ginvent> How do I specify what smtp server sendmail uses?
[02:08] <auk> !info xsmbrowser
[02:08] <desrt> ginvent; something about smart relay...
[02:08] <KB2000> ColonelKernel: i've used gimp as a photoshop replacement and i don't really see what gimp could do better
[02:08] <ubotu> xsmbrowser: (X11 tool for navigating SMB Networks), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 3.4.0-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 81 kB, Installed size: 748 kB
[02:08] <ColonelKernel> id give a teste for a dual-ganything mac destop
[02:08] <bimberi> huttan: Have a look for some directions on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:08] <ginvent> ?
[02:08] <ginvent> smart relay?
[02:08] <jnk> ginvent, you're using sendmail? don't you want to reconfigure postfix ?
[02:08] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: so would i, to run ubuntu on it
[02:08] <cafuego> ginvent: Set Rs<remote server address>
[02:08] <ColonelKernel> hahah
[02:09] <ColonelKernel> i'd run avid and protools on it
[02:09] <ColonelKernel> and nothing else
[02:09] <cafuego> ginvent: I concur that just using postfix would be a far better idea, though.
[02:09] <desrt> ginvent; edit /etc/postfix/main.cf
[02:09] <ginvent> ah ok... will that work for everyones?
[02:09] <OdiiN> nalioth any utility to split the ext3 partition where ubuntu is installed into 2 separate to allow swap ?
[02:09] <desrt> ginvent; edit the relayhost = line
[02:09] <desrt> put your smtp server in there
[02:09] <ctrlER> can someone help me with the question above?
[02:09] <KB2000> man, this channel is going fast... are people keeping up or just reading individual discussions? hehe
[02:09] <nalioth> OdiiN: yes, qtparted or gparted (both frontends to parted)
[02:09] <desrt> then restart postfix
[02:09] <nalioth> KB2000: it helps greatly when nicks are prefaced
[02:10] <KB2000> nalioth: it sure is
[02:10] <KB2000> :)
[02:10] <ctrlER> I wrote:  I did module-assistant fakesource and next module-assistant build loop-aes but it keeps telling me that  /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.8-2-386 seems to contain unconfigured kernel source, how can i get a module to build using a stock kernel?
[02:10] <ginvent> So, I should change relayhost to equal my mail.pacbell.net?
[02:10] <auk> !info expectk
[02:10] <ubotu> expectk: (A Tk/X11 version of the expect program), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 5.42.1-1.1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 68 kB, Installed size: 124 kB
[02:10] <funkyHat> how can i make gaim not display the contacts window when it loads?
[02:10] <ginvent> <--- super newbie... sorry
[02:10] <auk> !info expect
[02:10] <ubotu> expect: (A program that "talks" to other programs), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 5.42.1-1.1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 265 kB, Installed size: 628 kB
[02:10] <desrt> ginvent; possibly in square brackets
[02:10] <KB2000> what does "!info something" mean?
[02:10] <ginvent> why square brackets?
[02:10] <cafuego> desrt: No, not in square brackets.
[02:11] <jnk> ctrlER, I don't know, maybe install the kernel headers instead of the kernel source if you don't compile the kernel yourself
[02:11] <desrt> ginvent; ok.  just on its own then :)
[02:11] <cafuego> ginvent: just the address, nothing else.
[02:11] <nalioth> KB2000: !info <pkgname> tells you about the package in ubuntu
[02:11] <desrt> cafuego; i never remember if it's sendmail or postfix that like them
[02:11] <ginvent> no brackets... so I just put relayhost = mail.pacbell.net   and everything will go out that mail?
[02:11] <KB2000> !info mail-notification
[02:11] <desrt> ginvent; yes
[02:11] <ubotu> mail-notification: (Mail notification in system tray), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 241 kB, Installed size: 1116 kB
[02:11] <cafuego> ginvent: it will work for anyone who users your linux box as mail relay (or sends mail directly from it)
[02:11] <KB2000> wow :)
[02:11] <ginvent> Sendmail is used for asterisk...
[02:11] <ginvent> that is what I want to change.
[02:11] <ctrlER> jnk, i've done that, but loop-aes doesnt buid with headers only
[02:12] <cafuego> desrt: they both (can) need them in lookup tabled, but not in the config file.
[02:12] <jnk> ctrlER, well try to configure the kernel then :)
[02:12] <ginvent> So if I change it in the postfix... sendmail will go out that one too?
[02:12] <ctrlER> jnk, but my kernel is configured, its a stock kernel
[02:12] <cafuego> desrt: [ip.addr.ess]  would prevent it from doing a lookup.
[02:12] <desrt> cafuego; nod
[02:12] <desrt> cafuego; i'm used to "foo.bar.com" meaning "MX record for..."
[02:12] <jnk> ginvent, postfix provides for a sendmail command but it's still postifx behind it unless you actually install sendmail (don't!)
[02:12] <desrt> and "[foo.bar.com] " meaning "A record for..."
[02:12] <cafuego> ginvent: you don't have sendmail if you have postfix.
[02:13] <jnk> ctrlER, I mean, configure the kernel source you have installed
[02:13] <ginvent> OK cool...
[02:13] <cafuego> desrt: well possible that I got it wrong ;-)
[02:13] <ginvent> sorry for the dufieness of me today.
[02:13] <ginvent> I assume I have to restart postfix...
[02:13] <ctrlER> jnk, how can i do that?
[02:13] <ctrlER> jnk, could you just point me in the right direction? :)
[02:13] <jnk> ctrlER, go in the directory, type "make gconfig" IIRC
[02:13] <xtanium> hey, how would i dual boot ubuntu and os x on a mac?
[02:14] <xtanium> i don't want to have to format my hd
[02:14] <desrt> cafuego; i really don't know :)
[02:14] <desrt> ok
[02:14] <jnk> ctrlER, tell me if it works
[02:14] <cafuego> ginvent: sudo postfix reload
[02:14] <desrt> you *do* want square brackets
[02:14] <desrt> i have relayhost = [copacetic.desrt.ca]  in my working config
[02:15] <ginvent> I do?
[02:15] <desrt> yes
[02:15] <ginvent> or don't
[02:15] <cafuego> xtanium: make sure you have free unpartitioned space on disk, then install ubuntu. the installer will do the rest.
[02:15] <desrt> it might not matter, but if it does, you want them
[02:15] <cafuego> desrt: mine has no brackets and works fine too.
[02:15] <jnk> ginvent, you know you can simply type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[02:15] <desrt> so just put them anyway
[02:15] <nalioth> xtanium: w/o partitioning it's diffecult
[02:15] <ginvent> jnk, didn't know that... thanks...
[02:15] <ctrlER> jnk,  it gives me the follow: scripts/kconfig/mconf.c:91: error: static declaration of 'current_menu' follows non-static declaration
[02:15] <desrt> cafuego; only because your relayhost doesn't have a conflicting MX record
[02:15] <cafuego> mind you, it DOES relay to the MX for that domain.
[02:15] <xtanium> desrt: it will just auto-partition?
[02:15] <nalioth> xtanium: if you have free space, yes
[02:16] <xtanium> is 9 gigs enough?
[02:16] <ctrlER> this is the same error module-assistant fakesource
[02:16] <nalioth> xtanium: go for it
[02:16] <cafuego> xtanium: more than enough
[02:16] <ginvent> Is there a gui setup for postfix?
[02:16] <ctrlER> jnk, this is the same error module-assistant fakesource gives me
[02:16] <xtanium> so even if the space is formatted on like +HFS, it will still repartition?
[02:17] <jnk> ctrlER, this is weird, how did you install those sources'
[02:17] <xtanium> (HFS is osx's file system)
[02:17] <nalioth> xtanium: yes, lots of us run macs here
[02:18] <nalioth> xtanium: i believe there is a resizing tool on the installer
[02:18] <xtanium> sweet
[02:18] <jnk> ctrlER, correct way is installing the package linux-source-2.6.10
[02:18] <nalioth> xtanium: i recommend a total repartitioning, tho (personally)
[02:18] <ctrlER> apt-get install ....
[02:18] <TOXiC^> w00t i got that ssh working :D i only had to change the root password for my othe computer
[02:18] <xtanium> question 2: can i install it onto a fw hd?
[02:19] <ctrlER> errr, but i use other kernel (im in debian...)
[02:19] <nalioth> xtanium: not at this point
[02:19] <xtanium> ok, thanks!
[02:19] <nalioth> xtanium: b/c the kernel isnt f/w booting aware yet
[02:19] <xtanium> ah
[02:19] <xtanium> and the ubuntu installer only requires 1 cd, right?
[02:19] <ctrlER> but i install the package linux-source for my kernel
[02:19] <nalioth> xtanium: yessir, the rest comes over the net
[02:20] <xtanium> nice
[02:20] <xtanium> thanks
[02:20] <jnk> ctrlER, it's probably a problem with your version of gcc
[02:21] <LasseL> I really miss a tool where I can see which files various processes request on the filesystem
[02:21] <LasseL> like filemon for windows
[02:21] <jnk> ctrlER, what's the exact package for the kernel source and for gcc ?
[02:21] <jnk> LasseL, like lsof ?
[02:21] <LasseL> good stuf
[02:21] <LasseL> f
[02:22] <ctrlER> gcc (GCC) 4.0.1 (Debian 4.0.1-2)
[02:22] <ctrlER> dont know how to get the kernel source version?
[02:22] <ctrlER> uname -a?
[02:23] <rasuhuru> is there anyway to dualboot without resizing your windows partition?
[02:23] <Heart_> have problems with mounting my ntfs win-partition
[02:23] <Wckdkl0wn> can anyone help me with installing a plugin for xchat?
[02:23] <Heart_> have now  /dev/hda5 on /media/windows_d type ntfs (ro,gid=1000,nls=utf8)
[02:23] <jnk> give that too, but give also the version of the source package (see with "dpkg -l kernel-source*"  don't issue this command in a directory where there is a file/directory beginning in kernel-source)
[02:23] <TOXiC^> because the guys on #gentoo channel (this isn't advertising :D) don't want to help me.. maybe someone on here would help me maybe? what gentoo stage package should i download x86 or i686? i have 32bit AMD (athlon i guess)
[02:23] <admrl_> can anyone help me enable direct rendering..?
[02:23] <Heart_> my user has gid=1000 but i can not cd to /media/windows_d :(
[02:23] <X3N> what card admrl_
[02:24] <CarlFK> rasuhuru - add a 2nd drive
[02:24] <rasuhuru> already done
[02:24] <PlanarPlatypus> Wckdkl0wn, yes, which plugin?
[02:24] <nalioth> TOXiC^: 686
[02:24] <CarlFK> rasuhuru - then yes.  install away. the ubuntu installer will see the windows stuff and let you isntall around it, then setup the boot loader to let you pick
[02:25] <admrl_> GeForce FX 5200 i think
[02:25] <jnk> TOXiC^, return to the #gentoo channel with this ticket:  "The #ubuntu channel kindly ask the #gentoo channel to answer this question. Thanks."
[02:25] <admrl_> yep
[02:25] <rasuhuru> simple!
[02:25] <CarlFK> rasuhuru - it really is that easy ;)
[02:25] <rasuhuru> all that googling for nothing.
[02:25] <PlanarPlatypus> TOXiC^, K7
[02:25] <X3N> admrl_, install "nvidia-glx"
[02:25] <nalioth> Heart_: you want to mount your stuff?
[02:25] <admrl_> just w/ apt-get
[02:25] <admrl_> ..?
[02:25] <Heart_> nalioth: yes
[02:25] <X3N> yeah that'll do admrl_
[02:25] <CarlFK> rasuhuru -thats cuz it is so easy - I wonder if google has instructions for turning on a light... ;)(
[02:25] <X3N> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:25] <nalioths_dog> Heart_: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[02:26] <admrl_> thanx!!
[02:26] <kawsy> Is there an easy way for me to install warty if the raid modules I need are not included?
[02:26] <X3N> admrl_, you have to change the drivers to the ones you've just installed now
[02:26] <Wckdkl0wn> planarplatypus xmms-info... the files i extracted are a .pl and a .theme file
[02:26] <X3N> admrl_, do you know how to use vi ?
[02:26] <eli> anyone here use synergy?
[02:27] <CarlFK> eli - 2 frinds do, the say it rocks
[02:27] <Heart_> only run this file and all win-partitions are autom. mounted in /media/*?
[02:27] <nalioth> Heart_: yes as it explains
[02:27] <eli> i have installed it, but no manual of any sort was installed on it
[02:28] <Wckdkl0wn> anyone know how to install a .pl and a .theme file for a plugin on xchat?
[02:28] <eli> I have seen synergy work. it looks good and works seamlessly over network
[02:28] <X3N> admrl_, because what you need to do now is edit /etc/X11/xorg.con and replace where it says "nv" to "nvidia"
[02:28] <nalioth> Wckdkl0wn: the .pl goes in your .xchat/plugins or scripts folder
[02:28] <X3N> * /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:28] <nalioth> Wckdkl0wn: i have no idea about the theme
[02:28] <ed1t> Wckdkl0wn, X-Chat load plugins?
[02:29] <admrl_> i use nano X3N
[02:29] <ed1t> X-Chat > Load plugins or script
[02:29] <Wckdkl0wn> i put them in the /xchat2 folder like i did the rest of the plugins i installed
[02:29] <X3N> admrl_, ah ok then
[02:29] <Wckdkl0wn> .xchat2
[02:29] <admrl_> :) thanx
[02:29] <Wckdkl0wn> edit i tryed that
[02:29] <X3N> admrl_, you'll have to restart X i'm affraid
[02:29] <admrl_> uho
[02:29] <admrl_> lol
[02:29] <admrl_> dpkg-split: error reading /cdrom//pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10/nvidia-glx_1.0.7174-0ubuntu1_i386.deb: Input/output error
[02:29] <admrl_> dpkg: error processing /cdrom//pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10/nvidia-glx_1.0.7174-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[02:29] <admrl_>  subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
[02:29] <admrl_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:29] <admrl_>  /cdrom//pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10/nvidia-glx_1.0.7174-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[02:29] <admrl_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:30] <nalioth> admrl_: dont do that here, use a pastebin, or #flood
[02:30] <admrl_> whoops sorry about that
[02:30] <X3N> admrl_, don't bother using the cdrom
[02:30] <_frank> admrl_: bad cd maybe?
[02:30] <admrl_> how do i go without the cdrom
[02:31] <admrl_> i think that might b it _frank
[02:31] <X3N> admrl_, comment it out in your  /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:31] <X3N> the cdrom refferences that is
[02:31] <nalioth> admrl_: open your /etc/apt/sources.list using "sudo" and put a # in front of the cdrom line
[02:31] <Wckdkl0wn> Error loading '/home/admin/.xchat2/xmms-info.pl':
[02:31] <Wckdkl0wn>  Can't locate Xmms/Remote.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 2) line 3.
[02:31] <Wckdkl0wn>  BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 2) line 3.
[02:31] <nalioth> admrl_: save it and reload your apt-get
[02:31] <admrl_> i know how to do it
[02:31] <admrl_> thanx :)
[02:31] <nalioth> Wckdkl0wn: dont paste in here
[02:32] <X3N> ah uncoment the universe lines
[02:32] <nalioth> the ops are gonna start slappin you guys around
[02:32] <X3N> those are useful
[02:33] <nalioth> reka: how you been?
[02:33] <reka> nalioth: good. went back to uni this week.
[02:33] <nalioth> reka: wish i was back at uni
[02:34] <reka> nalioth: i wish i was finished. :D i dropped by a few times but you were supposedly sleeping :)
[02:34] <cajun> where can i find a listing for the ubuntu filesystem hierarchy?  i'm having trouble finding....i need to upgrade GAIM and I need to find out what directory it is installed in
[02:35] <X3N> sudo updatedb
[02:35] <X3N> sudo locate gaim
[02:35] <desrt> cajun; check out /var/lib/dpkg/info/gaim.list
[02:35] <bpuccio> cajun: you can always tray and locate it with the locate command
[02:35] <nalioth> reka: ya, that zZz noise covers up a lot of mischief
[02:35] <cajun> ah.   thanks
[02:35] <desrt> cajun; it lists all files involved with gaim
[02:36] <bpuccio> alternatively, there's a document on the debian sites somewhere that describes where each package should put what files, ubuntu does pretty myuch the same AFAIK
[02:37] <ksyms> I have a sound blaster live 7.1, in the alsa website there is an explanation of how installing it. Should I follow this one or is there specific instructions for ubuntu?
[02:37] <desrt> ksyms; live or live 24bit?
[02:37] <ksyms> 24bits
[02:37] <desrt> my condolences
[02:38] <desrt> there's an alsa-source package that will probably help you
[02:38] <ksyms> desrt, it does work. it's in the website.
[02:38] <cajun> locate didn't help me much.   the site for gaim says to extract the archive into the directory where gaim is installed and run the makefile to recompile it
[02:38] <desrt> cajun; what website is this?
[02:38] <cajun> gaim.sourceforge.net
[02:38] <ksyms> desrt, why the condolences then?
[02:39] <X3N> cajun, have you ever compiled something from source before ?
[02:39] <desrt> ksyms; because it's a pain to get it to work compared to normal live
[02:39] <desrt> ksyms; and it's not a very good card
[02:39] <cajun> once or twice
[02:39] <nalioth> cajun: use your favorite pkg mangler to remove the gaim you've got
[02:39] <calc> anyone know how to make xlibs install on breezy?
[02:39] <cajun> it won't remove my settings will it?
[02:39] <nalioth> cajun: if you are compiling it, it should install by default into the proper directorys
[02:39] <desrt> don't uninstall gaim.
[02:39] <ksyms> desrt, I have it in my debian at work. It is much better then the old 5.1.
[02:39] <capi> Anyone know how to override the Gnome resolution?
[02:39] <nalioth> cajun: no your settins are in your ~/ folder
[02:39] <desrt> it will take ubuntu-desktop with it
[02:40] <reka> !tell capi about fixres
[02:40] <desrt> ksyms; but it offloads most of its work onto your CPU
[02:40] <cajun> so how should i upgrade then?  gaim v 1.4 isnt' in synaptic
[02:40] <ksyms> desrt, I have enough here...
[02:40] <desrt> cajun; have you tried backports?
[02:40] <cajun> so i have to do it manually
[02:40] <robotgeek> cajun: is there an update to gaim?
[02:40] <capi> reka, what is fixres
[02:40] <cajun> only on gaim.sourceforge.net
[02:41] <cajun> what is backports?
[02:41] <reka> capi: ubotu should have sent a pm to you
[02:41] <desrt> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[02:41] <cajun> i'm still VERY new to linux...learning a little at a time
[02:41] <cajun> ag
[02:41] <cajun> ah
[02:41] <capi> reka, ah see it.
[02:41] <FoamY_is_DrunK> o_o
[02:41] <tanki> FoamY_is_DrunK, when you finish the clock i want to see pics
[02:42] <FoamY_is_DrunK> tanki i will be more than happy to show you them
[02:42] <Minuo> Where should I put commands that I need to run before the network comes up?
[02:42] <tanki> ty
[02:43] <desrt> ah
[02:43] <desrt> gaim 1.4 isn't in backports yet
[02:44] <X3N> gaim 1.4 is old..
[02:44] <desrt> but 1.3.1 is
[02:44] <desrt> gaim 1.4 is about a week old...
[02:44] <FoamY_is_DrunK> tanki give me your email i'll show you the finished product
[02:44] <FoamY_is_DrunK> i do have one built
[02:44] <cajun> i have deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[02:44] <cajun>  in my sources.list file
[02:44] <X3N> oh yes, forgot i'm using gaim cvs
[02:45] <cajun> do i still need to put in the line that backports website recommends?
[02:45] <cajun> since i won't find gaim 1.4 in backports, can anyone help me out with my upgrade?
[02:45] <nalioth> cajun: it's recommended you comment both those lines from backports out when you'r not actively d/l a program
[02:46] <cajun> i'd really appreciate it
[02:46] <desrt> cajun; can you wait another week or so?
[02:46] <desrt> cajun; gaim 1.4 will be in backports
[02:46] <cajun> ok.   i'll wait a week then
[02:48] <CraZy675> Hi, I have a big problem: I am running kubuntu 5.04 and when I boot i get the message "Contains a File system with errors: check forced"
[02:49] <capi> reka, thanks but that wasn't what I needed, I've tried all that three times over. Thanks though.
[02:49] <nalioth> CraZy675: EVERY time?
[02:49] <CraZy675> Then I get "buffer I/O error on device hda1, logical block" then some numbers
[02:49] <CraZy675> nalioth, yes everytime
[02:49] <nalioth> CraZy675: how old is your HD?
[02:49] <FoamY_is_DrunK> i receved an email that wasen't porn omg could i have actually gotten rid of all the junk mail?
[02:50] <reka> capi: i'll walk you through then....post your xorg.conf to the pastebin in the topic
[02:50] <FoamY_is_DrunK> mozilla thunderbird rules
[02:50] <CraZy675> pretty old
[02:50] <CraZy675> 6 years
[02:50] <CraZy675> no 4
[02:50] <nalioth> CraZy675: please install "smartmontools" with your fave package manager
[02:50] <CraZy675> its 4 years this september
[02:51] <CraZy675> ok
[02:51] <oompa> hey I got a problem. I converted an ntfs hard drive to fat and then booted into linux but linux still thinks it's ntfs
[02:51] <oompa> can't mout it as fat
[02:51] <Razor-X> any LaTeXers in here now?
[02:51] <nalioths_dog> oompa: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[02:52] <reka> Razor-X: still learning....so i guess i'm half a LaTeXer. :)
[02:52] <tritium> Razor-X, I am here.
[02:53] <delltony> question isn't there an extention for firefox that will allow you to view ie specific pages (as in make the website think your using ie) ? trying to get some things on direct tv to work thanks
[02:53] <oompa> nalioths_dog: thanks but isn't that kinda odd?
[02:53] <tritium> What's going on with LaTeX, Razor-X ?
[02:53] <Razor-X> tritium: here
[02:53] <Razor-X> \[\exp_{b} (x) = b^x, b \in \mathbb{R}, b \noteq 0, x \in \mathbb{R}, x \noteq 1\] 
[02:53] <Razor-X> that generates an error, oddly enough
[02:53] <CraZy675> nalioth, apt-get install smartmontools doesn't seem to work
[02:53] <capi> reka, I'm getting help in the gnome IRC currently, so I'll just stick with them. Thanks though :D
[02:53] <tritium> Razor-X, one sec.
[02:54] <Razor-X> tritium: mmmkay
[02:54] <Razor-X> delltony: I would doubt it
[02:54] <oompa> nalioths_dog: It gave me the error no usable windows/mac partitions found
[02:55] <seven_six_two> does ubuntu live not include partimage?
[02:55] <Razor-X> IE has its own rendering ways, why would there be an extension that changes that? I'ld think the devs would add that into the rendering engine itself
[02:55] <Razor-X> seven_six_two: use dd
[02:55] <seven_six_two> my friend needs to back up a partition b4 he messes with his ati drivers
[02:55] <reka> capi: no probs.   <whisper> you'll be back </whisper>
[02:55] <Razor-X> no need for partimage, dd is awesome
[02:55] <CraZy675> I have a root prompt
[02:55] <CraZy675> but thats about it
[02:55] <seven_six_two> will dd copy to 1 file?
[02:55] <Razor-X> of course
[02:55] <CraZy675> root@(none)
[02:55] <Razor-X> dd's older than UNIX (I believe)
[02:55] <seven_six_two> ok what is su pwd for live cd?
[02:56] <nalioth> CraZy675: do you have a liveCD?
[02:56] <Razor-X> seven_six_two: there is no su password, you prepend a sudo to execute things as root
[02:56] <seven_six_two> oh yeah. sorry. i forgot about that
[02:56] <nalioth> CraZy675: i suspect a DOA HD
[02:56] <jasoncohen> seven_six_two, there is no root password and you can run programs with sudo in the live cd without entering a password
[02:56] <teferi> okay, who feels up to a challenge?
[02:56] <Razor-X> tritium: and I've included amsmath and amsfonts into my document
[02:56] <delltony> Razor-X, i thought there was actually i know there was something to do with changing the browser x-header or something ill keep looking
[02:56] <CraZy675> nalioth, yes i have a live cd
[02:57] <Razor-X> delltony: you mean change referrer?
[02:57] <CraZy675> i suspect a dead hdd too but I'd like to recover what I can
[02:57] <tritium> Razor-X, try \usepackage{amssymb} then
[02:57] <nalioth> CraZy675: please boot from it, come back in here when you do
[02:57] <CraZy675> k
[02:57] <teferi> big challenge.
[02:57] <CraZy675> should I use the kubuntu live cd or the ubuntu live cd?
[02:57] <Razor-X> it won't render as IE, but it'll tell the web page that it is IE, doesen't work that often though *shrugs*
[02:57] <Razor-X> tritium: what's the difference?
[02:57] <nalioth> CraZy675: ubuntu, if ya don't mind
[02:57] <CraZy675> ok
[02:58] <Razor-X> I'ld prefer Kubuntu ;)
[02:58] <CraZy675> im going for ubuntu live 4.1
[02:58] <nalioth> CraZy675: any will do
[02:58] <seven_six_two> ok i have no clue how to back up a whole partition with dd...
[02:58] <splitta> whats the default wm for ubuntu-lite ?
[02:58] <Razor-X> seven_six_two: read the man page ;)
[02:58] <Razor-X> i'll save ya the trouble, though
[02:59] <delltony> nah not spoofin the refererr
[02:59] <tritium> Razor-X, I haven't looked at the differences that closely to tell you
[02:59] <seven_six_two> i have o'reilley desktop reference
[02:59] <Razor-X> sudo dd if=/dev/hdx of=/path/to/partition/file/
[02:59] <Razor-X> seven_six_two: man pages are awesome
[02:59] <reka> there's an ubuntu-lite?
[02:59] <Razor-X> never read a man page before?!
[02:59] <Razor-X> reka: there is?
[02:59] <splitta> yeah
[02:59] <ed1t> splitta, where?
[02:59] <reka> Razor-X: dunno.  is there?
[02:59] <seven_six_two> i have, but i use my book more often...thanks for that
[02:59] <splitta> ubuntulite.org
[02:59] <splitta> but
[03:00] <splitta> it was 503 earlier
[03:00] <Razor-X> tritium: didn't change much
[03:00] <delltony> user agent switcher found it
[03:00] <Razor-X> i'm not sure what's generating the error, 3 actually
[03:00] <seven_six_two> with dd the source is mounted too?
[03:00] <nameless1> im getting a error when i boot up ubuntu it says ERROR failed to initialize HAL!, whats hal and how do i fix this?
[03:00] <Razor-X> seven_six_two: no, it refers to the physical drive, no mounting needed
[03:00] <tritium> Razor-X, ok, give me a second.  I'll pull out Helmut and Kopka
[03:00] <splitta> see distrowatch weekly news
[03:00] <seven_six_two> cool. thanks
[03:00] <Razor-X> tritium: heh, ok
[03:01] <Razor-X> I never have the patience to read anything on a periodical manner
[03:01] <Razor-X> s/on/in
[03:01] <Razor-X> /
[03:01] <Razor-X> add a / at the end ;0
[03:01] <reka> nameless1: is your name Dave? :D </lame joke>
[03:01] <Razor-X> s/;0/;)/
[03:01] <tritium> Razor-X, you know about texdoctk, right?
[03:01] <ed1t> splitta, its unofficial, its not supported by Ubunu
[03:01] <ed1t> Ubuntu
[03:01] <Razor-X> tritium: nopes
[03:02] <nameless1> reka, lol nope
[03:02] <tritium> Razor-X, you should look into it.
[03:02] <Razor-X> tritium: what is it?
[03:02] <splitta> i've yet to see it
[03:02] <Razor-X> i'm writing out a whole set of course notes for a friend, it's 112 lines so far, it details the important concepts taught in the course
[03:03] <reka> nameless1: i suggest you google while you wait for an answer.
[03:03] <CraZy675> ok ubuntu live has booted
[03:03] <splitta> still waiting for the devs to find some moew bandwidth :o)
[03:03] <tritium> Razor-X, documentation for tex in the tetex-bin package.
[03:03] <nalioth> CraZy675: when it comes up, lemme know (or install "smartmontools")
[03:03] <nameless1> reka, ok will do
[03:04] <splitta> thought i would try kate_os in the meantime
[03:04] <splitta> d/l their 2.1 live iso
[03:04] <tritium> Razor-X, oh, I missed that.  \noteq is not defined.  You should use \neq or !=
[03:04] <splitta> kinda ot sorry guys
[03:04] <Razor-X> ohhh, it's \neq! now I remember
[03:04] <Razor-X> silly me ;)
[03:05] <pjw> Hi all, Is Ubuntu concordant with Linux Standard Base 2.0 or 3.0? I have asked yet, but I haven't received an answer.
[03:05] <CraZy675> nalioth, I'm trying to install smartmontools now
[03:06] <Kyral> Holy cow, we have ops
[03:06] <Razor-X> now, all that's left is Circles, Absolute Value Function, Elipses, Parabolas, and Hyperbolas
[03:06] <tritium> pjw, lsb_release -a
[03:06] <Kyral> Calculus?
[03:06] <Razor-X> and some nice properties of factorials and sigma notation
[03:06] <nalioth> CraZy675: should have no problems
[03:06] <Razor-X> Kyral: hardly, Algebra II notes for a friend
[03:07] <Razor-X> I know this stuff, so I did add my own special stuff
[03:07] <Razor-X> ;)
[03:07] <Kyral> High School Algebra or College?
[03:07] <Razor-X> College
[03:07] <Razor-X> (technically speaking)
[03:07] <Kyral> eww
[03:07] <CraZy675> nalioth, "couldn't find package ...."
[03:07] <Kyral> Algebra bites you in the ass
[03:08] <seven_six_two> sudo mount /dev/sda2 mounteddir     just froze on live cd
[03:08] <Razor-X> Kyral: I prefer algebraic concepts to other math concepts ;)
[03:08] <nalioth> CraZy675: what version is your kubuntu?
[03:08] <Kyral> I gotta take Calc 2 next semester because it took me 2 semesters to pass Calc 1
[03:08] <seven_six_two> it actually just froze the whole system
[03:09] <ed1t> Kyral, lol good luck with that....i took calc 2 last semester...ooo man
[03:09] <XTC> anybody using the D-Link di-524 router?
[03:09] <CraZy675> on the harddrive kubuntu 5.04 is installed the live cd is ubuntu 4.10
[03:09] <Kyral> the prof from the first semster came in hungover half the time
[03:09] <ed1t> lol
[03:09] <Razor-X> Kyral: i'm trying to learn Calc I, at the moment
[03:09] <funkyHat> XTC, i'm using a DI-604, close enough?
[03:09] <capi> reka, they couldn't help me in Gnome,  xorg.log http://pastebin.com/316670 , xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/316673
[03:09] <ed1t> i hate calc
[03:09] <cafuego> Kyral: That propbably means the students sucked ;-)
[03:09] <Razor-X> ed1t: i'm learning it for fun ;)
[03:10] <ed1t> i think nobody needs more then pre-calc
[03:10] <Kyral> my College had Professor Deathmatch, complete with videos
[03:10] <nalioths_dog> CraZy675: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:10] <XTC> funkyHat XTC, i'm using a DI-604, close enough? << i dunno... have you had troubles using msn... regular disconnects... ?
[03:10] <seven_six_two> wow...even alt+sysrq+rsieub won't work. thanks for the help, i'm going to use knoppix
[03:10] <Kyral> his entry was basically to the effect that he KNOWS he puts his kids to sleep
[03:10] <Razor-X> ed1t: and what happens if you choose to major in math itself? ;)
[03:10] <nalioth> CraZy675: enable all your repos, and reload the apt and try again
[03:10] <CraZy675> nalioths_dog, ok
[03:10] <Kyral> and I feel asleep in every class :D
[03:10] <reka> capi: k, to confirm, you want a res of 1152?
[03:10] <CraZy675> nalioth,
[03:10] <CraZy675> ok
[03:10] <ed1t> Razor-X, well i had to take it...im a computer science major
[03:10] <Kyral> Yea!
[03:10] <ed1t> it was touch as hell
[03:10] <capi> reka, yes
[03:10] <Razor-X> I'm good with computers, but i'll never major in CS
[03:10] <ed1t> lol
[03:11] <Razor-X> as far as I want, programming will always be a hobby
[03:11] <Kyral> ed1t, where do you go?
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> haha
[03:11] <reka> capi: run this please: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> I did uni, wasn't my thing
[03:11] <ed1t> Kyral, seton hall university
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> quit and got a job
[03:11] <Kyral> ah
[03:11] <Kyral> I go to Clarkson
[03:11] <funkyHat> XTC, disable SPI mode
[03:11] <ed1t> cool
[03:11] <Razor-X> I don't want to be pushed in some cubicle and said to me "Program or die, BITCH"
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> .. doing what I wanted to do after uni anyway - sysadmin
[03:11] <cafuego> Razor-X: You're assuming CS has something to do doing stuff with computers
[03:11] <XTC> SPI?
[03:11] <Razor-X> cafuego: programming, if i'm not mistaken
[03:11] <ed1t> i aced all the computer classes...but math classes
[03:11] <ed1t> ooo man
[03:11] <HrdwrBoB> Razor-X: that's a personaly choice
[03:12] <Kyral> I hate Math
[03:12] <funkyHat> Tools, Misc on the web interface
[03:12] <cafuego> Razor-X: Most CS people I know have issues using windows.
[03:12] <Razor-X> math is fun XD
[03:12] <CraZy675> sweet, I didn't even know you could use a GUI for your package manager
[03:12] <cafuego> and don't get me started on IT teachers
[03:12] <Razor-X> cafuego: I do too, but i'm not gonna go into CS
[03:12] <Kyral> I was an Aerospace before I was CS
[03:12] <capi> reka, is that spelt right? It's comming up blank
[03:12] <ed1t> next semester im taking operating systems class
[03:12] <Razor-X> Computational Theory and the like is cool, though
[03:12] <Kyral> but I fell asleep in Physics more than I did in Calc 1
[03:12] <Razor-X> like Dophantine Machines, and stuff
[03:12] <ed1t> lol
[03:12] <XTC> IPSec?
[03:13] <reka> capi: means we can't autodetect your monitor rates.....what model do you ahve?
[03:13] <XTC> i have everything disabled there :p
[03:13] <Razor-X> back to more LaTeXing ;)
[03:13] <Kyral> I tried to do Physics homework with friends, but I'd get smacked a lot for falling asleep
[03:13] <capi> reka, eView 17f2, you want the specs?
[03:13] <funkyHat> "SPI Mode
[03:13] <funkyHat> When this feature is enabled, the router will record the packet information pass through the router like IP address, port address, ACK, SEQ number and so on. And the router will check every incoming packet to detect if this packet is valid."
[03:13] <ed1t> i never had to take physics in college
[03:13] <Razor-X> what's the symbol for functional composition in LaTeX?
[03:13] <XTC> ah... i don't have that options...
[03:13] <reka> capi: if you have the h and v rates, yes....otherwise i can google for them.
[03:13] <XTC> :S
[03:13] <tritium> ed1t, :o
[03:13] <Kyral> I started as an Aerospace Major
[03:14] <ed1t> i took physics once in high school
[03:14] <Kyral> Changed Majors the day of the Physics Midterm
[03:14] <ed1t> thats it
[03:14] <ed1t> lol
[03:14] <Kyral> got out of it :D
[03:14] <tritium> Razor-X, \circ
[03:14] <capi> reka, I've got the rates, however the builders site doesn't seem up. Google them.
[03:14] <Kyral> I got an 11 on the first exam
[03:14] <Razor-X> HS Biology for me was a fall-asleep-and-get-A's class
[03:14] <Razor-X> tritium: thanks
[03:14] <Razor-X> (last year, only, though)
[03:14] <nalioth> i have a GED
[03:14] <reka> capi: k, give me a sec
[03:14] <Razor-X> like, I had 52.8% of my homework done
[03:15] <Razor-X> but 160%+ on my exams
[03:15] <Razor-X> and so it rounded to an A ;)
[03:15] <Kyral> I got a .75 GPA for the first semester
[03:15] <ed1t> lol
[03:15] <Kyral> got kicked out, begged to be let back in
[03:15] <ed1t> everybody gets a low GPA on their first semester
[03:15] <ed1t> i did too..
[03:15] <Kyral> pulled a 3.07 second semester
[03:15] <funkyHat> XTC, that setting did what you just described about msn
[03:16] <Mobius> anyone know of any database design tools?
[03:16] <reka> capi: hmm, your rates seem to be correct.
[03:16] <ed1t> Mobius, like oracle?
[03:16] <Mobius> like planning tools =)
[03:16] <Razor-X> planning shmanning
[03:17] <Razor-X> dunno what's so good about plannig ;)
[03:17] <Razor-X> s/plannig/planning/
[03:17] <Razor-X> but, i'ld probably turn to my emacs calendar and Task List, if I needed to ``plan"
[03:17] <XTC> i have read in forums that there's something about logging stuff in the router and getting flooded that makes it reboot... maybe there should be an options for this router to disactivate that thing....
[03:17] <reka> capi: and you've restarted X to no effect?
[03:17] <ed1t> i wanna start doing oracle again...man i love dbms
[03:17] <capi> reka, a plethora of times
[03:17] <Razor-X> I tried database crap, never liked it
[03:18] <Razor-X> my life is so unstructured, but I love overstrict OO in my programming
[03:18] <Razor-X> really weird that way
[03:18] <ed1t> Razor-X, java?
[03:18] <Mobius> heh
[03:18] <Razor-X> ed1t: C#, or as i'm learning, Ruby
[03:18] <Razor-X> Java == t3h crap
[03:18] <ed1t> java rocks!!
[03:18] <bimberi> Mobius: I use an OSS DB design tool called "DBDesigner4" - http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/
[03:18] <Razor-X> it's Garbage Collection is Garbage
[03:19] <Mobius> thanks bimberi =)
[03:19] <reka> capi: and you've checked sys > prefs > screen resolution?
[03:19] <bimberi> Mobius: mysql specific but still useful
[03:19] <tritium> Razor-X, so did you try out texdoctk yet?  You'll lilke it.
[03:19] <Razor-X> tritium: yeah, I did
[03:19] <bimberi> Mobius: for other DBs
[03:19] <capi> yep, and used gconftool-2 to try to override it by hand.
[03:19] <Mobius> I will be doing mysql bimberi
[03:19] <ed1t> Razor-X, better then C/C++
[03:20] <tritium> Razor-X, you might find this useful: Mathematics/math fonts -> LaTeX symbol table
[03:20] <bimberi> Mobius: could be the right one for you then :)
[03:20] <Razor-X> tritium: most of it isn't there, though ;(
[03:20] <Razor-X> does it come with tetex?
[03:20] <tritium> most of what?
[03:20] <Razor-X> the files, I click on the topics, and the files they link to are missing
[03:20] <tritium> tetex-doc, most likely
[03:20] <Razor-X> lemme see if I have it installed
[03:21] <Razor-X> ed1t: I prefer C++ over Java
[03:21] <nalioth> Razor-X: not C# over java?
[03:21] <ed1t> i had to do a project in C/C++ for one of my CS class....i didnt like it
[03:21] <Razor-X> wow! 21.8 MB of docs ;)
[03:21] <reka> capi: hmm....i'm afraid you've stumped me as well.  your xorg.conf file seems to be correct.
[03:21] <Razor-X> nalioth: yes, yes
[03:22] <Razor-X> after all the programming i've done, I can only call LaTeX one word -- beautiful
[03:22] <reka> capi: what about the default depth?
[03:22] <reka> capi: i noticed you only have the modes for 24
[03:23] <reka> capi: at on point in the wiki, it suggests lowering to 16 to see if that works
[03:23] <reka> *at one point
[03:24] <capi> reka, reka, tried lowering it to 8(lowest it goes), still wouldn't work.
[03:24] <Razor-X> hmmm... what's a nice, relatively unused greek letter?
[03:24] <Razor-X> ok
[03:26] <Razor-X> reka: your flame has been extinguished! MUAHAHAHAHA
[03:26] <Razor-X> ok, ok, I just _had_ to do that XD
[03:26] <reka> anyone else have some ideas about how to fix res?
[03:26] <tritium> reka, did you follow the wiki page?
[03:26] <reka> tritium: capi says he followed it 3 times. :)
[03:26] <nalioth> reka: reconfigure?
[03:27] <tritium> reka, ah, okay
[03:27] <reka> here's his xorg.conf file, which seems to be OK: http://pastebin.com/316673
[03:28] <Razor-X> capi: have you googled?
[03:28] <reka> capi: one idea....the only page i looked at for your rates was an ubforums page....you might want to see if they really are the correct ones you should use.
[03:28] <LokeDK> I'm trying to play a midi file with playmidi, but it says playmidi: No playback device found.
[03:28] <nalioth> reka: VESA will drive anything
[03:29] <reka> nalioth: aha, good point
[03:29] <reka> capi: there you go.. something to try there
[03:32] <capi> #gentoo-help
[03:33] <capi> sorry, forgot the /j
[03:33] <reka> capi: heh.  did you try nalioth's suggestion?
[03:33] <capi> reka, that was?
[03:33] <reka> use the VESA driver
[03:34] <reka> rather than the i810 one
[03:34] <reka> you have currently
[03:34] <tritium> capi, defintely worth a try.
[03:34] <reka> capi: so, iirc, you'd replace it with: Driver          "vesa"
[03:35] <geneo93> hey whats up with 3dfx cards not working
[03:35] <geneo93> live cd works fine though
[03:35] <tritium> yeah, but I'd suggest just doing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and selecting the vesa driver
[03:35] <capi> reka, trying
[03:37] <Antinomy> can someone help me install mplayer?
[03:38] <eric_> #get windows
[03:38] <capi> resa, no-go, wouldn't even let me startx
[03:38] <reka> geneo93: what card?
[03:38] <eric_> are you on hoary?
[03:39] <eric_> Antimony, you on hoary?
[03:39] <tritium> capi, and you did follow this:
[03:39] <Antinomy> eric: yes
[03:39] <tritium> !resolution
[03:39] <ubotu> I heard resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:39] <eric_> try just installing the codecs
[03:39] <geneo93> reka:  voodoo banshee
[03:39] <Antinomy> eric: I'm a n00b. I really don't know what that means.
[03:39] <eric_> ok
[03:39] <eric_> 1 sec
[03:39] <Antinomy> eric: right now I'm following the ubuntuguide
[03:40] <capi> tritium, yes
[03:40] <nalioth> Antinomy: are you back again?
[03:40] <Antinomy> eric: but it doesnt seem to work
[03:40] <nalioth> Antinomy: stay away from the guide
[03:40] <Antinomy> yes nali, how are you?
[03:40] <tritium> capi, and you've taken a good look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues?
[03:40] <nalioth> Antinomy: it can lead you into trouble
[03:40] <Antinomy> nalioth yeah it sucks.
[03:40] <Antinomy> nalioth: trouble, but it doesnt work anyway!
[03:41] <cyphase> hey everyone
[03:41] <nalioths_dog> Antinomy: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:41] <capi> tritium, I'd be dumb and blind with the Xorg log, but I have some people who are helping me
[03:41] <nalioths_dog> Antinomy: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:41] <cafuego> the HHGTTG is not to be stayed away from, surely!
[03:41] <tritium> capi, okay.
[03:41] <nalioth> capi: you tried the VESA driver, yet?
[03:41] <Antinomy> I added repositories by following the how to already
[03:41] <capi> nalioth, yes, wouldn't allow me to startx
[03:41] <nalioth> Antinomy: ok then go here backports.ubuntu.com  and add the two mirrormax lines
[03:42] <eric_> Are you just looking for wmv support and such
[03:42] <nalioth> Antinomy: but only for use RIGHT NOW
[03:42] <eric_> ?
[03:42] <nalioth> Antinomy: when you're done with what i'm gonna show ya, you need to disable them
[03:42] <Antinomy> nalioth: that address doesnt work
[03:42] <nalioth> capi: the VESA driver wouldnt startx?
[03:42] <nalioth> !backports
[03:42] <ubotu> backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org. Backports are not advised for regular use, mainly because you might not be able to upgrade Ubuntu.
[03:42] <Antinomy> backports.
[03:42] <LasseL> anyone had luck with mythtv?
[03:42] <nalioth> sorry
[03:42] <Antinomy> np
[03:43] <capi> nalioth, correct, after putting VESA in I couldn't startx
[03:43] <nalioth> capi: that is strange
[03:43] <LasseL> ""Starting MythTV server: mythbackendstart-stop-daemon: Unable to set initgroups() with gid 116"
[03:43] <nalioth> what kind of display do you have?
[03:43] <Antinomy> It might help me to understand what it is I'm actually doing.
[03:43] <Antinomy> In other words, why am I taking these actions?
[03:43] <capi> nalioth, eView 17f2
[03:44] <reka> geneo93: i see.  it's possible that the liveCD opts to use a driver that includes 3d support for your card, while the default install one doesn't.
[03:44] <nalioth> Antinomy: the two repos you are enabling are not easily found due to licencing/versioning reasons
[03:44] <nalioth> capi: i have no clue, is it a crt or lcd?
[03:44] <Antinomy> nalioth: ok
[03:44] <capi> nalioth, crt
[03:44] <Antinomy> I just got to the backports page on the guide
[03:44] <nalioth> Antinomy: and using them on a regular basis can cause your machine to not be upgreadeable
[03:44] <geneo93> reka:  mandrake handles it just fine
[03:45] <nalioth> capi: that is very strange, does the hardware work elsewhere/
[03:45] <capi> nalioth, if you mean Windoze, yes
[03:45] <Antinomy> why? because of technological issues, or the community wont let me upgrade?
[03:45] <SDFH_Linux> has breezy been released as final yet?
[03:45] <geneo93> reka:  i tried warty and hoary both ame results
[03:45] <tritium> capi, can I please see your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin?
[03:46] <nalioth> SDFH_Linux: in october
[03:46] <sproingie> SDFH_Linux: no.  when it is, there will be much hullaballoo on ubuntu.com
[03:46] <capi> trituirm, http://pastebin.com/316670
[03:46] <nalioth> capi: how bout an ubuntu liveCD?
[03:46] <tritium> LasseL, I setup mythtv quite some time ago.  My memory is rather hazy on the details.
[03:46] <SDFH_Linux> how stable is the beta breezy?
[03:46] <Kyral> NOT
[03:46] <sproingie> SDFH_Linux: it is not
[03:46] <SDFH_Linux> doh
[03:46] <SDFH_Linux> k
[03:47] <reka> geneo93: you probably have to install the driver for your card then.
[03:47] <IIIEars> "Windoze" - makes us linux users seem biased. (Psst, We are tho. - lol)
[03:47] <sproingie> no, just makes 'em seem stupid
[03:47] <LasseL> tritium, remember if you had to do any "tricks" about mysql security to make it work
[03:47] <vader> IIIEars......lol
[03:47] <sproingie> that and M$
[03:47] <Antinomy> brb
[03:47] <geneo93> mine has nvidia my sons is voodoo
[03:47] <Kyral> Winblows
[03:48] <sproingie> even dumber
[03:48] <IIIEars> "The Redmond OS"?
[03:48] <Kyral> The OS that Satan made?
[03:48] <IIIEars> heh
[03:48] <tritium> LasseL, no, that I know I did not have to do.
[03:48] <reka> geneo93: for the nvidia machine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:48] <sproingie> getting into "contemptible" now
[03:48] <aru> Kyral:  didn't make an OS
[03:48] <aru> I
[03:48] <geneo93> reka:  mine has driver working fine
[03:49] <sproingie> besides, everyone knows satan made bsd
[03:49] <tritium> please guys, no OS wars
[03:49] <IIIEars> Makes me laugh having to enable Active-X scripting to get an update.
[03:49] <vader> I am just learning, no war from me lol
[03:49] <capi> tritium, what about ubuntu-live>?
[03:49] <qt2> is there a simple way to mimic the windows printscreen function?
[03:49] <tritium> capi, what about it?
[03:50] <vader> lol
[03:50] <IIIEars> lol
[03:50] <vader> btw vader is actually kevin
[03:50] <capi> naolith, what about ubuntu-live>?
[03:50] <tanki> sup kevin
[03:50] <geneo93> tanki:  i take you like living in the past
[03:50] <vader> livin learnin
[03:50] <capi> tritium, sorry that was naolith
[03:50] <tritium> ah, no problem :)
[03:50] <capi> nalioth, what about ubuntu-live>?
[03:50] <reka> geneo93: this might be what you're looking for: apt-cache show xlibmesa-dri
[03:51] <tanki> no but seriously, everyone take a moment of silence because ibm announced os/2 warp is dead
[03:51] <robotgeek> finally, sorted my wireless connection out...disabled the network-manager applet
[03:51] <HrdwrBoB> tanki: oh no, woe is me
[03:51] <HrdwrBoB> I'll have to stop using it...
[03:51] <IIIEars> qt2 - "the prt-scr button on your keyboard doesn't work the same way?
[03:51] <nalioth> tanki: the moment of silence should be spent wishing that big blue open sources it
[03:51] <overlade> hello all , has someone succed to install Kguitar in gnome plz ?
[03:51] <robotgeek> nalioth: that was all over /.
[03:51] <nalioth> capi: yes, does ubuntu liveCD work your hardware?
[03:52] <geneo93> reka:  he's going to boot to ubuntu now
[03:52] <vader> tanki: I am getting alaugh out of how much people could learn just by sitting here watching the text
[03:52] <IIIEars> qt2 - What kind of screen shot do you need?
[03:52] <overlade> how install java runtime :( ?
[03:52] <nalioth> vader: the longer you lurk, the more you'll learn
[03:52] <capi> nalioth, no it just gives 640
[03:52] <qt2> ...it does now... :o
[03:52] <vader> I lurk a LOT lol
[03:52] <nalioth> capi: but it displays, right?
[03:52] <otep> overlade what the prob with it?
[03:53] <capi> nalioth, yes it displays, just at default rates
[03:53] <nalioth> !java
[03:53] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[03:53] <nalioth> capi: well it WONT display from the HD isntalled ubuntu, right?
[03:53] <PurpleBlu> Does ubuntu come with KDE?
[03:53] <vader> mine is added lol, did that the other day
[03:53] <nalioth> PurpleBlu: you can install it
[03:53] <PurpleBlu> yes. I would love KDE
[03:53] <reka> PurpleBlu: default DE is gnome, but you can install KDE later
[03:53] <vader> kubuntu does
[03:53] <PurpleBlu> i just installed, all there is GNOME
[03:53] <robotgeek> does that java include ppc, i guess not!
[03:53] <PurpleBlu> :(
[03:54] <capi> nalioth, it displays in an installed version, just not the right resolution
[03:54] <overlade> otep, i need install it because i have problem with a program who use it
[03:54] <anne_> anyone here get an original airport card to work under ubuntu?
[03:54] <tritium> PurpleBlu, kde is also available
[03:54] <nalioth> robotgeek: ppc users (like me) have to use wiki.ubuntu.com//JavaPPC
[03:54] <reka> PurpleBlu: install kubuntu-desktop for KDE
[03:54] <nalioth> anne_: yes
[03:54] <IIIEars> PurpleBlu - open synaptic and search kubuntu-desktop D/L and install
[03:54] <robotgeek> i know,i just tht ubotu shud mention that
[03:54] <vader> not airport; got d-link dwl-g650
[03:54] <nalioth> anne_: my airport card works out of the box
[03:54] <otep> overlade: have you gone here -> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/jre/install-linux.html
[03:54] <robotgeek> vader: mac
[03:55] <nalioth> otep: its differnt in ubuntu
[03:55] <vader> ibm
[03:55] <anne_> nalioth: is it the 64-bit of the 128-bit?
[03:55] <PurpleBlu> synaptic app or someting from the console?
[03:55] <otep> wha? oh im using kubuntu
[03:55] <tritium> either way, PurpleBlu
[03:55] <nalioth> anne_: my airport is the original 'b' model in a G3 ibook
[03:55] <PurpleBlu> looking for it in the applications menu...
[03:55] <IIIEars> PurpleBlu - Synaptic is simplest. but yes apt-get kubuntu-desktop works also
[03:55] <reka> sys > admin >synaptic
[03:55] <nalioth> anne_: what mac do you have?
[03:56] <anne_> nalioth: there was a 64-bit WEP and a 128-bit WEP
[03:56] <robotgeek> i checked out enlightenment, it seemed *very* nice, eye-candy wise :)
[03:56] <anne_> nalioth: G3 ibook (900)
[03:56] <aru> I love it when you guys offer the gooey way :)
[03:56] <overlade> otep, i cant see ubuntu , how i do ? :( i transform the rpm in .deb ?
[03:56] <PurpleBlu> in Synaptic now.   thanks reka
[03:56] <nalioth> anne_: lots of users have problems with wep and wpa, not just on airport cards
[03:56] <robotgeek> anne_: do u know which card you have? the old airport or the new airport express?
[03:56] <vader> nalioth: I guess I got luck then hu?
[03:56] <nalioth> anne_: does that have airport? i thought they switched at the 800mhz models to airport extreme
[03:57] <Heart_2> what means "un  java-browser-plugin...." (dpkg -l "*java*")
[03:57] <Heart_2> un?
[03:57] <nalioth> vader: what?
[03:57] <anne_> nalioth: no... there were two airport 802.11B.... NOT the original and extreme, but 2 original and 1 extreme
[03:57] <reka> overlade: alien <rpm file> to convert it to .deb
[03:57] <anne_> nalioth: not for the ibook.  that was at the G4 edition
[03:57] <nalioth> anne_: i'm confused now
[03:57] <PurpleBlu> Okay where would KDE fall in the listing which group?  NOt seeing a desktop group.
[03:57] <vader> never mind... vader falling into the background
[03:57] <overlade> reka, thanks :)
[03:57] <robotgeek> anne_,nalioth the old airport B were based on orinoco, the new ones on broadcom
[03:57] <PurpleBlu> oopps
[03:57] <PurpleBlu> found it
[03:58] <nalioth> robotgeek: yes i know this
[03:58] <anne_> nalioth: there was the 64-bit original airport cards and then there was a 128-bit airport card
[03:58] <nalioth> robotgeek: i'm tryin to find out what anne has
[03:58] <robotgeek> nalioth: sorry, my bad
[03:58] <nalioth> anne_: i have no clue
[03:58] <IIIEars> PurpleBlu - Check out the "Settings" "Repositories" function at the top of Synaptic. adding a repository without any text editing. choose from 16,000+ apps more added everyday
[03:58] <calc> anne_: orinoco?
[03:58] <robotgeek> anne_: was does lspci say?
[03:58] <calc> sounds like orinoco silver and gold cards
[03:58] <nalioth> the original airport uses pcmcia interface and the apx uses mini-pci
[03:58] <calc> broadcom is crap :(
[03:59] <reka> PurpleBlu: there's a search facility. :)
[03:59] <tritium> capi, I'm not finding much in your Xorg.0.log :(
[03:59] <robotgeek> broadcom is the sux0rs!
[03:59] <nalioth> calc: original airport cards work out of the box under ubuntu
[03:59] <robotgeek> true
[03:59] <anne_> robotgeek, it's not in there, but modprobing aiport does add an eth1
[03:59] <calc> nalioth: but broadcoms don't
[03:59] <anne_> nalioth: mine didn't.  and yes it did work under OSX
[03:59] <nalioth> calc:  correct
[03:59] <robotgeek> anne_: is it a B or a G?
[04:00] <nalioth> anne_: i think you have an APX
[04:00] <anne_> B
[04:00] <anne_> I swear to you I don't
[04:00] <calc> i ripped the broadcom in my amd64 out and put an intel 2915abg in place of it
[04:00] <robotgeek> anne_: then i think u have an orinoco
[04:00] <anne_> yes, I do.  I can't seem to connect to my network though
[04:00] <nalioth> capi: copy your xorg.conf from the liveCD session
[04:01] <robotgeek> anne_: okay..workable.
[04:01] <robotgeek> anne_: do u use WEP?
[04:01] <anne_> nope
[04:01] <robotgeek> okay...can u check your 'dmesg' output and tell me the last 4/5 lines?
[04:02] <robotgeek> or paste the whole thing in pastebin
[04:02] <IIIEars> !pastebin
[04:02] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[04:02] <Antinomy> nalioth: I got the backports mirror site up....if you're still there
[04:03] <anne_> airport: Airport at physical address 80030000
[04:03] <anne_> eth1: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware version 4.16
[04:04] <anne_> WAIT.  It looks like it's in ad-hoc mode
[04:04] <anne_> even though iwconfig says it's in managed
[04:04] <robotgeek> anne_: :)
[04:04] <anne_> How do I change it?
[04:04] <nalioth> Antinomy: i'm here
[04:05] <lupus1010> what is best connection == NULL or !connection
[04:05] <nalioth> Antinomy: if you've reloaded your apt-get, you can install w32codecs now
[04:05] <robotgeek> anne_: moment
[04:05] <robotgeek> iwconfig ra0 mode Managed
[04:05] <robotgeek> eth1 instead of ra0
[04:06] <Antinomy> nalioth: reloaded? confused.
[04:06] <robotgeek> anne_: let's take this in a separate window?
[04:07] <geneo91> reka:  it says its out of sync
[04:07] <vader> tanki: you got awful quiet
[04:08] <nalioth> Antinomy: in synaptic, click the 'reload' button in the top left
[04:08] <Antinomy> nalioth: done
[04:08] <nalioth> Antinomy: so search for "w32"
[04:08] <reka> geneo91: what says that?
[04:08] <Antinomy> i checked w32 codecs - already installed
[04:08] <nalioth> !java
[04:08] <ubotu> java is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[04:09] <geneo91> when it tries to startx reka
[04:09] <nalioth> Antinomy: so if you dont need anything else at the moment, uncheck the boxes next to those mirrormax URLs in your repositories box
[04:10] <geneo91> its an old gateway ev700 monitor reka
[04:10] <Antinomy> nalioth: I think I missed a step. I'm sorry...I don't know what mirrormax URLs are...
[04:10] <reka> geneo91: yeah, sounds like you need to run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:10] <Antinomy> nalioth: oh i see
[04:10] <nalioth> Antinomy: the two backports lines you put in should be disabled now (if they're not, please disable them)
[04:11] <geneo91> reka:  i've done that many times
[04:11] <Antinomy> nalioth: in preferences>repositories, the last entry is mirrormax.net/hoary-extras. uncheck?
[04:11] <nalioth> geneo91: then choose VESA as your driver
[04:11] <nalioth> Antinomy: yes, please
[04:12] <reka> nalioth: he's trying to get 3d support for a voodoo banshee.
[04:12] <Antinomy> nalioth: done
[04:12] <geneo91> k i'll try that and see what happens reka
[04:12] <elmagozizou> How do I play WMA in xmms?
[04:12] <nalioth> Antinomy: and the other mirromax line, also
[04:12] <vader> see you all later; as in tomorrow, I am tired for once so have a great night and catch you all on the flip side
[04:12] <reka> nalioth: i told him to install xlibmesa-dri
[04:12] <elmagozizou> I can play all but my WMA songs dont even add to the list
[04:12] <nalioth> reka: vesa will make a dead dog display if its gota vga input
[04:12] <Antinomy> nalioth: there was only one!
[04:13] <flodine> can someone tell me the command to take screenshots
[04:13] <nalioth> Antinomy: ok
[04:13] <elmagozizou> How do I play WMA in xmms?
[04:13] <elmagozizou> I can play all but my WMA songs dont even add to the list
[04:13] <tritium> flodine, in gnome, hit the Prnt Scrn button
[04:13] <nalioth> Antinomy: nothin in the list that says "backports"
[04:13] <IIIEars> flodien - Doesn't the prt-scr button on your keyboard do what you want it to do?
[04:13] <nalioths_dog> elmagozizou: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[04:13] <flodine> im not in gnome
[04:14] <Antinomy> nalioth: there was only one there. I disabled it
[04:14] <Rockett17> i believe he wants the import window root thing.. i forget the syntax
[04:14] <Antinomy> nalioth: btw, I have no idea how it got there.
[04:15] <elmagozizou> nalioth, sorry is just to make shure the people read it...you know is a lot of people writing here
[04:17] <nalioth> Antinomy: ok thats weird
[04:17] <eli> anyone here used synergy?
[04:17] <gp_aaron|upstair> you can install ubuntu without gnome correct?
[04:18] <gp_aaron|upstair> eli I have
[04:18] <nalioth> gp_aaron|upstair: sure, choose server install
[04:18] <slinky> can anyone advise on using a new fontset in ubuntu? maybe a link to a good walkthrough?
[04:18] <gp_aaron|upstair> nalioth, now does that still install xorg?
[04:18] <Madpilot> evening, all... how do I create a .zip file in Ubuntu that will be openable in a WinXP machine?
[04:18] <Madpilot> !fonts
[04:18] <ubotu> hmm... fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[04:18] <nalioth> gp_aaron|upstair: nope, it installs a CLI only system
[04:19] <Madpilot> slinky: see the URL that ubotu just posted
[04:19] <slinky> ubotu: great...ty....will check
[04:19] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, slinky
[04:19] <gp_aaron|upstair> nalioth, ok what I want is xorg and xfce and ob3 but not gnome
[04:19] <Madpilot> slinky: ubotu is really a bot. uBOTu...
[04:19] <IIIEars> ubotu are you human? - ;)
[04:19] <ubotu> IIIEars: Are you smoking crack?
[04:19] <CarlFK> way OT, but not sure where to go: OO for win, how do I tell it to associate itself with .doc after MSword took it over?
[04:19] <sn0n> Hello all
[04:19] <Madpilot> IIIEars :)
[04:19] <slinky> what are you doing obotu?
[04:19] <nalioth> gp_aaron|upstair: then from the server install, you can install xfce and apt should give you xorg with that
[04:19] <axis^bbl> is there a wiki on wiki's
[04:20] <reka> elmagozizou: xmms doesn't have WMA support by default.  here's a very rough guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21414.html
[04:20] <gp_aaron|upstair> ok thanks nalioth
[04:20] <Madpilot> CarlFK: you mean inside Windows?
[04:20] <axis^bbl> elmagozizou: just delete the wmas buddy ;)
[04:20] <CarlFK> Madpilot - correct
[04:20] <nalioth> CarlFK: right click in explorer, click "open with" and check the "always open with" box
[04:20] <gp_aaron|upstair> i didn't know if gnome-desktop was rooted into xorg or not
[04:20] <gp_aaron|upstair> the way it is into openoffice
[04:20] <gp_aaron|upstair> and other packages
[04:21] <geneo91> reka:  it has warty installed now
[04:21] <compubomb> anyone have any experience compiling e17 on ubuntu from cvs ?
[04:21] <Madpilot> CarlFK: run OOo's install program again, pick the "Repair Install" option. it'll display the option to take over the Office docs again
[04:21] <CarlFK> nalioth - I was hoping there was an OO dialog so I wouldn't have to find all the extenzions and apps, which I think ends up being well ofer 50
[04:21] <ColonelKernel> some pretty bizarre names, all sound like some kina std
[04:21] <CarlFK> Madpilot - good plan.  thanks
[04:21] <ColonelKernel> or ways to refer to prostitutes
[04:21] <sn0n> ok, i have a question.. what is the version number of warty ? and whats the one for hoary ?   (from what i read, they are.. backwards?)
[04:21] <axis^bbl> ColonelKernel, totally
[04:21] <Antinomy> nalioths_dog: should I install the other one?
[04:22] <axis^bbl> ColonelKernel, : that was my consensus as well
[04:22] <tritium> sn0n, warty: 4.10, hoary: 5.04
[04:22] <ColonelKernel> lol
[04:22] <axis^bbl> beezy
[04:22] <axis^bbl> breezy
[04:22] <reka> geneo91: you just installed now?
[04:22] <axis^bbl> sounds like a bunch of x-girlfriends to me
[04:22] <sn0n> tritium, yeah, isnt that backwards ? or am i not understanding normal versioning numbers
[04:22] <ColonelKernel> yep, prob members of the godfathers stable
[04:22] <Madpilot> can someone tell me how to create .zip files in Ubuntu? there doesn't seem to be anything in the wiki...
[04:22] <tritium> sn0n, no, it's right.  the first number represents the year, and the second the month in which the release was made.
[04:22] <geneo91> i'm going to insall kubuntu now reka
[04:23] <stan-am> hey fellas
[04:23] <sn0n> oo
[04:23] <axis^bbl> i'm using kubuntu out here in the garage :)
[04:23] <sn0n> ok
[04:23] <nalioth> Antinomy: those two repos are not really advised for general use
[04:23] <elmagozizou> axis^bbl, yeah good choise...
[04:23] <reka> geneo91: er, ok
[04:23] <axis^bbl> running ubuntu inside on the server right now, untill i get FREEBSD up
[04:23] <Antinomy> ok. I'm packing it in.
[04:23] <Antinomy> this is too complicated.
[04:23] <IIIEars> !desktop
[04:23] <axis^bbl> N'ite
[04:23] <ubotu> IIIEars: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:23] <stan-am> is there a way to add a program to the synaptic repository list???
[04:23] <nalioth> Antinomy: we're here 24/7
[04:23] <Antinomy> score one for windows
[04:23] <axis^bbl> Antinomy, : what's too complicated
[04:23] <sn0n> ooo.. 4.10
[04:23] <concept10> Madpilot, use archive mabafer
[04:23] <sn0n> i thought it was 5.10
[04:23] <sn0n> my bad
[04:23] <Madpilot> concept10: archive what?
[04:24] <stan-am> is there a way to add a program to the synaptic repository list???
[04:24] <Antinomy> just want to play the media I play on windows on ubuntu too
[04:24] <concept10> Madpilot, sorry about that arhive manager
[04:24] <sn0n> use command line zip  :-p  and man zip
[04:24] <nickrud> Madpilot, zip and unzip are in main, i think
[04:24] <jasoncohen> Antinomy, can you play it in rhythmbox?
[04:24] <stan-am> is there a way to add a program to the synaptic repository list???
[04:24] <nalioth> Antinomy: you havent asked anything about that
[04:24] <sn0n> im slowly learning that man is my friend
[04:24] <concept10> Madpilot, applications, accesories > archive manager
[04:24] <sn0n> i never used it much til about a month ago
[04:25] <jasoncohen> stan-am, what do you mean? anything installed will show up in synaptic as installed
[04:25] <sn0n> there is sooooo much that can be learned in man
[04:25] <jasoncohen> any .deb installed
[04:25] <CarlFK> whoever wanted wiki help: http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?WelcomeVisitors
[04:25] <reka> Madpilot: i think if you just do 'create archive' through nautlus, and set the extension to zip, it will do it for you.
[04:25] <elmagozizou> My mplayer keep showing me a message averytime I play somethig...the message is about the fonts path...I all ready download the mplayer fonts, and even try reinstaling all off mplayer but doesnt work...any help?
[04:25] <Madpilot> concept10: thnx, found that. I prefer a GUI to the CLI; I know that's un-Linux-ish of me...
[04:25] <sn0n> elmagozizou, sure, use Muine ;-)
[04:25] <sn0n> sorry, my preferences are showing thru  :-X
[04:26] <elmagozizou> sn0n, whats that?
[04:26] <stan-am> jasoncohen: i downloaded amsn and after i did the tar -zxvf *.tar.gz i dont know what else to do with it
[04:26] <sn0n> its the mono based music player
[04:26] <axis^bbl> Antinomy: check your private messages
[04:27] <jasoncohen> stan-am, why would you do that- just sudo apt-get install amsn
[04:27] <ubuntu> anyone know what the password is for this ubuntu install for root.....
[04:27] <jasoncohen> stan-am, search for amsn in synaptic
[04:27] <sn0n> stan-am, im guessing running           ./configure && make ** make install   ;-)
[04:27] <jasoncohen> stan-am, you were installing from source
[04:27] <Agrajag> there is no root password
[04:27] <Agrajag> !sudo
[04:27] <ubotu> it has been said that sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:27] <ubuntu> su doesnt work??
[04:27] <Madpilot> reka: where's the create archive dialog in Naut? and is there a way to get 'create archive' as a right-click-menu option like WinZip in XP does?
[04:27] <Agrajag> use sudo
[04:27] <sn0n> but then again.. config make makeinstall requires ALOT of dev packages
[04:27] <ubuntu> doesnt work
[04:27] <jasoncohen> stan-am, you need universe enabled. then you can install amsn from synaptic
[04:27] <stan-am> jasoncohen: should i do that inside a specific directory?
[04:27] <jasoncohen> stan-am, huh?
[04:27] <Agrajag> what doesn't work, sudo?
[04:28] <sn0n> sudo works
[04:28] <aleman> hey set me right on theis one please
[04:28] <sn0n> sudo works perfect
[04:28] <reka> Madpilot: exactly.  right click file/folder > create archive..
[04:28] <Agrajag> read what the bot said
[04:28] <ubuntu> fuck this ...going back to fedora
[04:28] <tritium> ubuntu, yes it does.  Use your user's passowrd
[04:28] <Agrajag> !sudo
[04:28] <ubotu> sudo is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:28] <Agrajag> ahahahaha
[04:28] <sn0n> lol
[04:28] <Agrajag> what an idiot
[04:28] <CarlFK> sn0n you know about apt-get install build-essential ?
[04:28] <sn0n> he just wanted to bitch
[04:28] <jasoncohen> stan-am, do you have the universe repository enabled? if so, just start synaptic, search for amsn and install
[04:28] <aleman> can I use debian repositories w/ubuntu just like that?
[04:28] <Agrajag> he can HAVE fedora
[04:28] <sn0n> CarlFK, there is one of those? lol. i just did a search for dev in name
[04:28] <jasoncohen> aleman, no - very bad idea
[04:28] <sn0n> and installed all the ones i knew i needed
[04:28] <sn0n> lol
[04:29] <stan-am> jasoncohen: no i dont
[04:29] <aleman> ok, thats all I needed
[04:29] <CarlFK> sn0n - glad I asked.  now I can eat dinner
[04:29] <sn0n> hehe
[04:29] <Madpilot> reka: thnx, found it. it doesn't work in the left-hand Naut panel the way I was expecting it to...
[04:29] <axis^bbl> Antinomy: http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt    - really good guide to setting up media
[04:29] <jasoncohen> Antinomy, gstreamer-ffmpeg might solve your problems from hoary-extras
[04:29] <stan-am> im doin a google for that jasoncohen
[04:29] <jasoncohen> Antinomy, have you tried playing your wma songs in rhythmbox?
[04:29] <jasoncohen> stan-am, a google search for what?
[04:30] <jasoncohen> stan-am, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:30] <axis^bbl> won't mplayer
[04:30] <stan-am> how to enable universe
[04:30] <axis^bbl> play wmas
[04:30] <stan-am> thnx dude
[04:30] <jasoncohen> stan-am, follow the instructions for synaptic...there are screenshots + instructions
[04:30] <axis^bbl> Antinomy: go to http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt and install mplayer
[04:30] <sn0n> lol
[04:30] <sn0n> add universe to the names in synap
[04:30] <sn0n> lol
[04:30] <nalioths_dog> stan-am: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:30] <sn0n> i love all these stupid questions
[04:31] <stan-am> gotcha guys
[04:31] <jasoncohen> um, don't use ubuntuguide
[04:31] <stan-am> thnx
[04:31] <jasoncohen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto gives better instructions - with explanation
[04:31] <jasoncohen> stan-am, after you add universe and reload, search for amsn
[04:31] <jasoncohen> and install it
[04:31] <axis^bbl> what's the name of the file browser ubuntu uses?
[04:31] <axis^bbl> s..
[04:31] <Agrajag> nautilus
[04:31] <jasoncohen> stan-am, you were installing from source which you generally shouldn't do unless you have a need to - if it's not packaged by ubuntu
[04:32] <jasoncohen> axis^bbl, nautilus is gnome's default file browser
[04:32] <stan-am> damn, id luv 2 know how to do it from console
[04:32] <axis^bbl> ok thx.. but  .. how on earth do i change my folder from dissapearing when i open a new one
[04:32] <stan-am> damn windows
[04:32] <stan-am> hehe
[04:32] <sn0n> stan-am, apt-get install joe
[04:32] <jasoncohen> stan-am, apt-get install amsn
[04:32] <axis^bbl> stan-am, what do you want to do from console
[04:32] <axis^bbl> apt-get install xmms
[04:32] <jasoncohen> sn0n, in this case sudo apt-get install amsn
[04:33] <Agrajag> axis^bbl: oh, you'll have to change some stuff in gconf
[04:33] <axis^bbl> oh yah
[04:33] <axis^bbl> Agrajag, : gconf
[04:33] <tritium> axis^bbl, Edit->Preferences->Behavior->Always open in browser windows
[04:33] <Agrajag> start up gconf-editor
[04:33] <sn0n> stan-am, joe /etc/apt/sources.conf
[04:33] <stan-am> apt-get is the same thing than installing from synaptic after enabling universe?
[04:33] <axis^bbl> tritium: thank you so much
[04:33] <otep> jasoncohen: how frequent were the packages in the repositories updated?
[04:33] <axis^bbl> and you too Agrajag
[04:33] <tritium> don't even need gconf-editor
[04:33] <axis^bbl> <:
[04:33] <sn0n> .list sorry
[04:33] <tritium> sure
[04:33] <axis^bbl> thats lovely
[04:33] <axis^bbl> that'[s what i like
[04:33] <axis^bbl> less clutter
[04:33] <Agrajag> tritium: oh, did they put it in the prefs now?
[04:33] <tritium> Agrajag, yep :)
[04:33] <Agrajag> I never bothered to change it, I like spacial
[04:33] <sn0n> stan-am, in the lines with deb http bla bla bla, add universe at the end
[04:33] <Agrajag> er, spatial
[04:34] <axis^bbl> Unlike my messages .. sorry bout that trit .. lol.. here.. i was able to do it this time tho
[04:34] <sn0n> hit Ctrl + K + D
[04:34] <sn0n> then Ctrl + C
[04:34] <jasoncohen> otep, in what repositories? hoary is a stable distribution so it only receives security and critical bug fixes
[04:34] <otep> hmmm
[04:34] <stan-am> yeah i already added universe and im using amsn now
[04:34] <sn0n> stan-am, then do a apt-get update
[04:34] <axis^bbl> Agrajag, : Spatial, what is that ?
[04:34] <otep> ok
[04:34] <jasoncohen> otep, breey, which is the development (unstable) release is constantly upgraded
[04:34] <sn0n> i think hes not listening. LoL
[04:34] <sn0n> i love spatial
[04:35] <sn0n> but not how ubuntu does it
[04:35] <stan-am> whats that do sn0n?
[04:35] <sn0n> i know i can Shift Click
[04:35] <sn0n> but still
[04:35] <Agrajag> you know, I'm not seeing an option in nautilus to change that
[04:35] <Agrajag> I know it's in gconf
[04:35] <tritium> Agrajag, Edit->Preferences->Behavior ?
[04:36] <Agrajag> nope
[04:36] <tritium> It's a check box "Always open in browser windows"
[04:36] <sn0n> Agrajag, cuz its a ubuntu hack
[04:36] <Agrajag> this is on hoary, I don't use breezy so if it's a new addition I won't see it
[04:36] <Agrajag> tritium: uh, that's not the same thing
[04:36] <tritium> Agrajag, this is hoary
[04:36] <axis^bbl> Agrajag,  I was gonna ask you if it's updated.. but it should be hoary
[04:36] <Agrajag> a browser window is a different view
[04:37] <tritium> Agrajag, it's not spatial
[04:37] <axis^bbl> so konqueror automatically opens up folders in the main window
[04:37] <axis^bbl> Agrajag, : just open the folder
[04:37] <axis^bbl> edit-pref
[04:37] <Agrajag> oh, that's not what he asked though, he just wanted it to not close the parent folder
[04:37] <axis^bbl> oh it's still going to do that
[04:37] <jasoncohen> who doesn't ubuntu enable encryption for vino by default?
[04:37] <sn0n> Agrajag, its some silly ubuntu hack that i dont know how to change. its some sourcecode change, not a gui thing
[04:37] <axis^bbl> Agrajag, : that is what i'm talkin about
[04:37] <Agrajag> right, to change that you need to go into gconf-editor
[04:37] <nalioth> does ubuntu support bluetooth?
[04:37] <orborde> You are now looking at a man who has successfully configured his Ubuntu box to get on the internet through a proxy.
[04:38] <axis^bbl> although they were opening up new folders too which was a pain
[04:38] <Agrajag> sn0n: it's easy to change
[04:38] <sn0n> how ?
[04:38] <Agrajag> anyone who wants to know how to use spatial nautilus while not closing parent folders:
[04:38] <Agrajag> open a terminal, run "gconf-editor"
[04:38] <reka> orborde: congrats :)
[04:38] <axis^bbl> nice
[04:38] <Agrajag> go to /apps/nautilus/preferences
[04:38] <axis^bbl> robotgeek,  !!!!
[04:39] <axis^bbl> you made it
[04:39] <Agrajag> find the checkbox next to "no_ubuntu_spatial"
[04:39] <sn0n> oo
[04:39] <sn0n> ok
[04:39] <sn0n> nice
[04:39] <Agrajag> check it, and close gconf-editor
[04:39] <robotgeek> axis^bbl: :)
[04:39] <axis^bbl> robotgeek,  Hoora
[04:39] <axis^bbl> or in this case, Hoar-ah!
[04:39] <robotgeek> stupid wireless!
[04:39] <IIIEars> ubotu desktops is ""Ubuntu offers Gnome (default) "gnome-desktop"  or KDE "kubuntu-deskop" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE?highlight=%28kde%29, Here are some other choices. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ http://www.plig.org/xwinman/""
[04:39] <ubotu> okay, IIIEars
[04:39] <Agrajag> now the shift-click thing will be reversed, if you do want to close the parent hold shift when opening a folder
[04:39] <axis^bbl> Agrajag, : i'm following
[04:39] <Agrajag> so that's all you need to do
[04:39] <Antinomy> Ok, can anyone help me install apps so that I can see all the media I see in windows?
[04:40] <robotgeek> axis^bbl: i am at home though, still havent found a free shell
[04:40] <axis^bbl> Agrajag: leet man .. thx
[04:40] <Agrajag> just check that box and it will be done, you don't have to restart anything because gconf is awesome like that
[04:40] <robotgeek> axis^bbl: "applied" for a shell acount though
[04:40] <axis^bbl> robotgeek,  i'll work on that tonight
[04:40] <nalioth> Antinomy: unfortunately, bill gates doesnt want you to see some wmv9 and 10 media
[04:40] <sn0n> Agrajag, thnx alot!!!!!
[04:40] <axis^bbl> robotgeek, ; yah that's what you'll have to do now
[04:40] <Antinomy> ok, how about mpg and real?
[04:40] <axis^bbl> robotgeek, : they used to be free, walk in go on irc.. but too many script kiddies ruined that
[04:40] <nalioth> Antinomy: but i can help you with all else
[04:40] <sn0n> Agrajag i read that that was a silly source code hack that couldnt be changed.. stupid google
[04:41] <nalioths_dog> Antinomy: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[04:41] <axis^bbl> Agrajag,  wikkid
[04:41] <Antinomy> ok man, you've been super helpful so far
[04:41] <robotgeek> robotgeek: i know, i was reading.
[04:41] <axis^bbl> hehe
[04:41] <sn0n> unixshell.com is cheap
[04:41] <sn0n> not free
[04:41] <sn0n> but cheap
[04:41] <axis^bbl> yo
[04:41] <axis^bbl> you say you're at home, you're running ubuntu there?!
[04:41] <IIIEars> sn0n - sounds good - nice tip
[04:41] <axis^bbl> robotgeek,  Are you running ubuntu at home, and you can't use the computers at school?!
[04:42] <sn0n> its a VPS
[04:42] <sn0n> full root, bla bla bla
[04:42] <sn0n> and HELLA bandwidth for the price
[04:42] <robotgeek> robotgeek: actually on my laptop, the only machine i have.
[04:42] <axis^bbl> robotgeek,  ohh ok .. :)
[04:43] <axis^bbl> robotgeek:  man.. go find a pentium 100mhz system out of the garbage .. and use that at home for irc
[04:43] <robotgeek> axis^bbl: not good, but all it means is i don't irc at school
[04:43] <sn0n> axis^bbl, LoL
[04:43] <axis^bbl> <:
[04:43] <axis^bbl> that's what i did
[04:43] <axis^bbl> i was like.. hey that looks like a pentium
[04:43] <axis^bbl> yoink
[04:43] <sn0n> hehehe
[04:43] <sn0n> remote X on it
[04:43] <robotgeek> axis^bbl: true, maybe a 386 would work...my prof offered me one.
[04:43] <sn0n> and its just fine
[04:43] <sn0n> ;-)
[04:43] <axis^bbl> robotgeek,  386.. hmm.
[04:44] <axis^bbl> robotgeek,  maybe freebsd or something, if you're savvy at terminal
[04:44] <axis^bbl> :)
[04:44] <axis^bbl> with* terminal
[04:44] <sn0n> hehe
[04:44] <robotgeek> robotgeek: yeah, i am on a term right now :)
[04:44] <axis^bbl> anybody have a really sweet guide to VM ?
[04:44] <sn0n> terminal is a way of life ;-)
[04:44] <axis^bbl> hehehe
[04:44] <sn0n> axis^bbl, define VM ?
[04:45] <axis^bbl> sorry
[04:45] <axis^bbl> my god typo .. VI
[04:45] <sn0n> hehehe
[04:45] <sn0n> vimtutor
[04:45] <sn0n> ?
[04:45] <axis^bbl> got vmware on my mind
[04:45] <axis^bbl> yah? that an ap
[04:45] <axis^bbl> aoo
[04:45] <sn0n> i believe so
[04:45] <axis^bbl> i can't type..  geez. i need to make some coffee.. brb
[04:45] <axis^bbl> sn0n,  sweet, i will def check it out
[04:45] <sn0n> yeah
[04:45] <sn0n> its there
[04:45] <robotgeek> axis^bbl: i spend half of my time reading vim manuals!
[04:46] <axis^bbl> i'm getting so sick of powerless text editors
[04:46] <sn0n> i like joe
[04:46] <sn0n> lol
[04:46] <sn0n> but im never stuck on a non-X enabled box.. so gedit works for me
[04:46] <axis^bbl> thats what i used on freebsd.. i've been using pico on ubuntu :X
[04:46] <sn0n> lol
[04:46] <ahvargas> axis^bbl:use emacs
[04:46] <sn0n> ewwww to emacs
[04:46] <sn0n> if i wanted a full blown OS text editor, id use windows
[04:46] <sn0n> ;-)
[04:46] <axis^bbl> i said eww emacs and scrunched up my nose before sn0n  even said that
[04:46] <robotgeek> axis^bbl: vimtutor is a good introduction
[04:47] <cyphase> anyone have any ideas for a good movie to rent?
[04:47] <axis^bbl> robotgeek,  awesome
[04:47] <axis^bbl> what is emacs tho ..  gui vi?
[04:48] <sn0n> emacs is a OS that wraps a text editor
[04:48] <sn0n> lol
[04:48] <axis^bbl> axis^bbl i said eww emacs and scrunched up my nose before sn0n  even said that
[04:48] <nalioth> axis^bbl: hold your tongue! heh heh
[04:48] <axis^bbl> err
[04:48] <axis^bbl> i meant to say  remove "said eww"
[04:48] <nalioth> axis^bbl: emacs and vi have very ardent users
[04:48] <nalioth> they will fight to the death at any slight
[04:48] <sn0n> i say fuck em both, and use a good GUI editor  ;-)
[04:48] <axis^bbl> so i meant to say "i scrunched my nose when emacs was said"
[04:48] <axis^bbl> nalioth: lol
[04:49] <axis^bbl> nalioth, : will it be a good show like spock vs kirk?
[04:49] <axis^bbl> brbbrbr ahhhh brrr ahhhhhh
[04:49] <sn0n> nothings better then something i can use a mouse to get around on  ;-)
[04:49] <axis^bbl> brbrbrbr ahhhhh brbr ahhhhhh
[04:49] <axis^bbl> i like the shift-cursor too much
[04:49] <axis^bbl> i use the mouse when i'm lazy and surfing
[04:49] <traveller> is there an update source that will bring my packages to more recent versions?
[04:49] <robotgeek> lol
[04:49] <robotgeek> i would emacs if i had 4 hands, but i dont!
[04:50] <jasoncohen> traveller, what are you trying to upgrade?
[04:50] <axis^bbl> traveller: edit /etc/apt/sources.conf   uncomment everything, "apt-get update"
[04:50] <sn0n> lol robot
[04:50] <abarbaccia> hey- can someone help me get my rio carbon supported in ubuntu? ive heard it being done in breezy but nothin with hoary
[04:50] <traveller> jasoncohen: basically everything...firefox is only 1.0.2, gaim is only 1.1.4
[04:50] <axis^bbl> traveller, " apt-get install upgrade-dist
[04:50] <jasoncohen> axis^bbl, that won't allow him to upgrade. that'll just give him more repositories
[04:50] <jasoncohen> traveller, yeah, but you have a patched version of firefox up to 10.4 security updates and gaim is patched through 1.3.1
[04:51] <axis^bbl> jasoncohen, : apt-get upgrade-dist ?
[04:51] <jasoncohen> apt-get dist-upgrade actually is the command
[04:51] <axis^bbl> k
[04:51] <axis^bbl> thats how you updae, rite?
[04:51] <axis^bbl> i knew if i spit out some half info, someone would jump in to save him
[04:51] <axis^bbl> <:
[04:51] <jasoncohen> you shouldn't give people advise if you don't know what you're talking about. that command doesn't upgrade the distribution unless you change sources.list
[04:51] <traveller> jasoncohen: you mean gaim 1.1.4 is actually 1.3.1? and firefox is 1.0.4?
[04:52] <axis^bbl> jasoncohen, : advice? ok
[04:52] <_frank> traveller: as far as security goes, yeah
[04:52] <jasoncohen> traveller, no- it's 1.1.4 with security patches from later versions and 1.0.2 with security patches from later versions
[04:52] <axis^bbl> i was just .. adding vice
[04:52] <traveller> jasoncohen: hm...ok
[04:52] <sn0n> wait.. what gets me the new firefox and gaim ?
[04:52] <sn0n> apt-get install upgrade-dist
[04:52] <jasoncohen> axis^bbl, and no one should be upgrading to breezy yet. it's broken. xorg doesn't work
[04:52] <sn0n> ?
[04:52] <sn0n> im on hoary
[04:52] <sn0n> and have everythign updated
[04:52] <_frank> traveller you can get updated versions of programs through backports
[04:52] <sn0n> and gaim is still old as shit
[04:52] <axis^bbl> hehe
[04:52] <sn0n> and firefox is like 1.0.2
[04:52] <jasoncohen> traveller, https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/usn/errorreferencefolder_view
[04:52] <traveller> _frank: is that a good thing to do?
[04:52] <tritium> sn0n, with 1.0.4 security patches
[04:52] <tritium> !firefox
[04:52] <ubotu> Firefox on warty is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[04:53] <sn0n> oo
[04:53] <sn0n> ok ;-)
[04:53] <axis^bbl> i want to get/make a plugin for gaim.. "what i'm listening too .."
[04:53] <robotgeek> axis^bbl: gaim-xmms exists, and works :)
[04:53] <jasoncohen> that's not true about warty- only about hoary
[04:53] <sn0n> axis^bbl, there is a perl framework i think. gaim.sf.net
[04:53] <_frank> traveller: It's reasonably tested. The packages are made for ubuntu. But still you should only use if you need it
[04:53] <axis^bbl> robotgeek,  oh my
[04:53] <jasoncohen> warty didn't get security updates from 1.0.4
[04:53] <axis^bbl> [=
[04:54] <vladuz976> hi does anybody know if there is a japanese ubuntu channel?
[04:54] <ahvargas> does anyone knows about xdiv in ubuntu
[04:54] <traveller> _frank: ok, i'll have a look at what's inside, thanks
[04:54] <ahvargas> ?
[04:54] <Ka234> are their any repositories that have firefox/thunderbird 1.0.6?
[04:54] <gp_aaron|upstair> is there lighttpd in the repo
[04:55] <nalioth> vladuz976: #ubuntu-jp
[04:55] <jasoncohen> Ka234, not yet, if you really need it you can just install it from mozilla's site
[04:55] <nalioth> Ka234: those are VERY new
[04:55] <jasoncohen> it's easy to install
[04:55] <jasoncohen> 1.0.6 came out today
[04:55] <vladuz976> nalioth: i don't think that exists. just tried
[04:55] <Ka234> thank you
[04:55] <nalioth> vladuz976: then no, there is not one
[04:55] <robotgeek> Ka234: 1.0.6 is not released yet!
[04:55] <jasoncohen> yes it is
[04:56] <_frank> its just much better to always use .deb packages when possible though
[04:56] <jasoncohen> robotgeek, lol - i'm running 1.0.6!!
[04:56] <axis^bbl> gandharvas
[04:56] <jasoncohen> Ka234, wait until 1.0.6 is backported to hoary-backports or wait for the fixes from 1.0.5 to be backported to 1.0.2 in hoary-security
[04:56] <robotgeek> i dint know 1.0.6 was out.sorry
[04:56] <Ka234> ok
[04:57] <nalioth> robotgeek: yes, its smokin hot new
[04:57] <robotgeek> :)
[04:57] <axis^bbl> mmm  ;.. xmms
[05:00] <vladuz976> does anybody know how long it will take for 1.0.6 to come to backports
[05:00] <sn0n> 19273 days
[05:00] <axis^bbl> hehe
[05:00] <Antinomy> can anyone help me with a sunbird install?
[05:00] <enum> anyone use atiixp sound drivers?
[05:01] <axis^bbl> 26hr, 4 mins 28 seconds 21 nanoseconds remain
[05:01] <sn0n> Antinomy, i belive it comes with a linux precompiled self installer
[05:01] <nalioth> Antinomy: iirc, sunbird requires compiling
[05:01] <enum> I seem to get sound on gnome loading.. but not while in the desktop session
[05:01] <nalioth> bah
[05:01] <[4dm|n___] > guy's how to mount flash disk
[05:01] <sn0n> [4dm|n___] , plug it in  :-p
[05:01] <Antinomy> I know. I have the feel for Syn, so now I wanted to try a self install.
[05:01] <[4dm|n___] > and
[05:01] <nalioth_zZz> Antinomy: you can find me tomorrow
[05:01] <[4dm|n___] > plug and ?
[05:01] <sn0n> ubuntu and gnome auto mounts
[05:02] <Antinomy> naliothgood night, chief, and thanks again!
[05:02] <axis^bbl> anyone know if 6.1 works or video out ??
[05:02] <[4dm|n___] > it will be appear on my desktop ??
[05:02] <axis^bbl> [=
[05:02] <sn0n> otherwise sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda# /mountpoint
[05:02] <axis^bbl> 6.1 sound
[05:02] <sn0n> [4dm|n___] , it should, yeah
[05:02] <[4dm|n___] > ok
[05:02] <[4dm|n___] > i'll try
[05:02] <Internat> dev/hdb5       /mnt/fdrive     auto    rw,auto         0       0       <== that seem a valid entry for fstap to auto mount one of my drives?
[05:03] <Internat> fstab*
[05:03] <robotgeek> axis^bbl: :)
[05:03] <axis^bbl>               hahaha
[05:04] <Ka234> how do I upgrade the Linux kernel will that be on the backports?
[05:05] <tritium> Ka234, to which version?
[05:05] <Proteque_> Internat: not sure about the first auto.
[05:05] <Proteque_> Internat: I allways say what filesystem it is
[05:05] <sn0n> im not liking this vimtutor
[05:05] <sn0n> lol
[05:05] <sn0n> its annoying! ;-)
[05:05] <sn0n> i want my joe and gedit
[05:05] <sn0n> lol
[05:05] <Ka234> tritium, the latest
[05:06] <Proteque_> sn0n: vim <3
[05:06] <Will_> sn0n: best thing to do is remap your arrow keys to flash a 'Stop using me!' message
[05:06] <tritium> Ka234, you're best off building your own, then with kernel-package
[05:06] <Ka234> how do I do that?
[05:06] <dabaR>  hey
[05:07] <sn0n> whats undo in vi ?
[05:07] <Will_> sn0n: +you will find vi, or vim on every linux and unix like computer _evar_
[05:07] <Will_> u
[05:07] <sn0n> thnx
[05:07] <robotgeek> sn0n: vim rocks!
[05:07] <sn0n> Will_, i know, but i'll also find pico, nano, or joe also  ;-)
[05:07] <daba1> so, you really think Ubuntu is the best distro out there right now to be #1 on all distrowatch boards? Even better than Debian?
[05:08] <sn0n> i like simple editors, vi is just complicated.. LoL
[05:08] <Will_> sn0n: Not on a lot of systems.
[05:08] <sn0n> daba1, Ubuntu is debian you oaf
[05:08] <daba1> bah
[05:08] <daba1> dont talk to me like that #1.
[05:08] <sn0n> well.. you asked..
[05:08] <robotgeek> vi is the *roxors*!
[05:08] <daba1> but, it is not, I mean,t ehre is debian, and tehre is ubuntu, neither ubuntu ppl nor debian ppl would agree with you on that.
[05:08] <daba1> I asked, I didnt not say call me an oaf.
[05:09] <sn0n> and distrowatch dont rate distros, it rates POPULARITY  ;-)
[05:09] <tritium> Ka234, see the KernelHowto linked on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[05:09] <robotgeek> sn0n: and only number of hits
[05:09] <daba1> sn0n: now that is a reason I can accept, thank you.
[05:09] <Ka234> ok thanks tritium!
[05:09] <sn0n> daba1, actually... debain AND ubuntu.. are the same.. so buggers off
[05:09] <Kris_work> hello, while I was at work today after a huge fight with my wife, a large portion of the files on my web server mysteriously vanished. Does anyone know if ubuntu logs things like files being deleted? :-/
[05:09] <daba1> dont be like that, go read the ubuntu code of conduct.
[05:09] <sn0n> Will_, you callin me a troll?  ;-)
[05:10] <Will_> I say nothing
[05:10] <tritium> sn0n, please mind the Code of Conduct
[05:10] <sn0n> bla
[05:10] <sn0n> lol
[05:10] <sn0n> there is a code of conduct ?
[05:10] <dbernar1> no, thanks for the answer, just be nicer, so...
[05:10] <sn0n> :: unzips ::
[05:10] <sn0n> :: aims ::
[05:10] <tritium> sn0n, yes
[05:10] <sn0n> lol
[05:11] <sn0n> i do follow some general guidelines in life, but i dont like independant rules.. ;-)
[05:11] <dbernar1> If you care: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct .
[05:11] <ivan_qk> i finished to install ubuntu, anybody can help me about how i can upgrade openofiice to 2.0 version?
[05:11] <desrt> is there a way that i can give apt a .deb file and tell it to install it properly with all its dependancies?
[05:11] <tritium> sn0n, we all have rules we have to live with
[05:11] <dbernar1> ivan_qk: is it in apt?
[05:11] <desrt> ie: instead of tossing it to dpkg -i and screwing up my system...
[05:11] <sn0n> tritium, now always. ;-)
[05:11] <ivan_qk> yes
[05:12] <ivan_qk> i did this
[05:12] <Kris_work> I'll take that as a no :-/
[05:12] <_frank> desrt: dpkg -i wont screw up. It will tell you what you need
[05:12] <ivan_qk> sudo apt-get install openofiice.org
[05:12] <dbernar1> ivan_qk: open synaptic, to start.
[05:12] <desrt> _frank; right.  any way to get those things installed automatically?
[05:12] <ivan_qk> and show me message with "openoffice is already up to version"
[05:12] <Will_> Kris_work: Not that I know of. Maybe ask your wife?
[05:13] <dbernar1> ivan_qk: then once in synaptic, use the search to search for openoffice
[05:13] <Kris_work>  she denies it of course, that's why I'm trying to figure out of it was her who did it
[05:13] <_frank> desrt: I'm not sure how to do it when you start from a .deb file
[05:13] <desrt> _frank; me neither :/
[05:13] <dbernar1> Kris_work: :-/ ....
[05:13] <sn0n> yeah, id prolly have to ask my girlfriend.. LoL
[05:13] <Kris_work> and if it wasn't, which of the handful of people who had access
[05:13] <Will_> Kris_work: samba? that has logs
[05:13] <dbernar1> I mean, it sure is strange given the circumstances
[05:13] <sn0n> thats what happened last time my treasure trove of porn went *poof*
[05:13] <Kris> she's the only one who has motive
[05:13] <dbernar1> ivan_qk: openoffice.org2 is the package.
[05:13] <ivan_qk> ahhh
[05:13] <robotgeek> sn0n: i always chmod -x my porn!
[05:14] <sn0n> LoL
[05:14] <ivan_qk> ok
[05:14] <Kris> this is more like several months of 3d modeling work that she's very jealous of
[05:14] <dbernar1> ivan_qk: so, synaptic helps with searches like that.
[05:14] <ivan_qk> let me do that
[05:14] <sn0n> i've learned to remote X it, and store it on a offsite server
[05:14] <sn0n> ;-)
[05:14] <dbernar1> sure
[05:14] <Kris> anyway
[05:14] <Kris> looking through samba logs now
[05:14] <dbernar1> kris, does she have root access?
[05:14] <tritium> ivan_qk, so does apt-cache search
[05:14] <Kris> does vftpd have a log somewhere?
[05:14] <Kris> dbernar1 she doesn't know how to ssh in
[05:14] <tritium> Kris, look under /var/log
[05:15] <dbernar1> so, she can not at all even access then?
[05:15] <Kris> but samba does have root access because the only people that use it are myself and my wife :-/
[05:15] <ivan_qk> lol sorry, i dunno understand very much
[05:15] <dbernar1> aha, ya, ok, well, look into it. I dont think there is undelete in Linux.:(
[05:15] <ivan_qk> command are very dificult to me yet
[05:15] <Kris> ok the samba logs only show errors
[05:15] <dbernar1> sorry to hear that, it is a good lesson to learn, tho...altho backup lessons are everywhere...
[05:16] <Kris> not successful commands :-/
[05:16] <Kris> indeed
[05:16] <Kris> also the design doc for the game I'm working on was in there too :(
[05:16] <dbernar1> ivan_qk: they made almost everything GUI in Ubuntu, I think.
[05:16] <Kris> I'd link you to the web site but that's gone now
[05:16] <dbernar1> aw, man, thats so sad...
[05:16] <Will_> That's hard.
[05:17] <Will_> It's 4am. I'm thinking of going for a run
[05:17] <Kris> yeah no one has used ftp in the last three days
[05:17] <ivan_qk> synaptic dont let me to select openoffice.org2 to install it
[05:17] <ivan_qk> :s
[05:17] <Kris> and no one has shell access except me
[05:17] <Kris> so it had to be samba
[05:17] <Kris> grrrrr
[05:17] <Kris> well I guess that's my answer
[05:17] <Kris> she says maybe there's a virus
[05:17] <dbernar1> ivan_qk: what does it say?
[05:17] <Kris> yeah right
[05:18] <_frank> ivan_qk: is there an errot message
[05:18] <Kris> anway, thanks for help finding the logs
[05:18] <dbernar1> ya, I guess...
[05:18] <Kris> farewell!
[05:18] <ivan_qk> ya ok
[05:18] <dbernar1> see ya.
[05:18] <sn0n> Kris, they allways say that
[05:18] <ivan_qk> i do that in console
[05:18] <Madpilot> a virus? on a linux machine? heh...
[05:18] <Kris> now to look up whether ubuntu can get viruses...
[05:18] <sn0n> Kris, LoL
[05:18] <ivan_qk> with command that u give me
[05:18] <ivan_qk> so, going to download 88 MB
[05:18] <dbernar1> ivan_qk: tell us the error message first.
[05:18] <dbernar1> oh, it works command line?
[05:18] <Madpilot> I think he had a virus called "angry wife", myself...
[05:19] <ivan_qk> nothing error, just dont let me select box
[05:19] <dbernar1> ya, too bad, tho, I mean, months of work...
[05:19] <dbernar1> ivan_qk: ok, cool, so you downloading now?
[05:19] <ivan_qk> yes
[05:19] <dbernar1> good, that should be it.
[05:19] <TecnoVM64> hello, i wonder if anybody knows how to make a sis 7012 sound card work?
[05:19] <ivan_qk> u think
[05:20] <ivan_qk> this is my first linux distro
[05:20] <TecnoVM64> its the only problem i have with ubuntu
[05:20] <Madpilot> does OOo2 install on top of 1.x, or is it a complete second install?
[05:20] <tritium> Madpilot, you can have both
[05:20] <Madpilot> tritium: and they'll show up as seperate programs? cool. I like what I've seen of OO2
[05:20] <tritium> Madpilot, yes
[05:21] <Madpilot> !sound
[05:21] <ubotu> sound is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[05:21] <dbernar1> TecnoVM64: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary?highlight=%28sound%29 ,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28sound%29 as well
[05:21] <Madpilot> TecnoVM64: see the URL that ubotu just posted
[05:21] <dbernar1> the second one is done by the expert, I think:)
[05:22] <Chandon> So... Just got a new laptop. Apparently support for it's sound card requires ALSA 1.09 ; Additionally, I'd like my Intel 2915 wireless card to work. Is there any way to do this without resorting to a custom kernel/ALSA build?
[05:22] <robotgeek> Chandon: :(
[05:23] <dbernar1> maybe, Chandon, check out the URLs above, to see if that helps.
[05:23] <tritium> Chandon, you can likely avoid the kernel build, but some have had to build newer alsa modules.
[05:23] <robotgeek> Chandon: you can just build the alsa modules and overwrite the ones u have
[05:24] <Chandon> tritium, Is it possible to build new alsa modules with just packaged kernel headers?
[05:24] <tritium> Chandon, exactly (and alsa-source as well)
[05:24] <TecnoVM64> ubotu, dbernar1, Madpilot, thanks, im going to try it now
[05:24] <ubotu> TecnoVM64: Are you smoking crack?
[05:25] <dbernar1> ok
[05:25] <TecnoVM64> O.o
[05:25] <dbernar1> he is a bot
[05:25] <TecnoVM64> hehe lol sorry then
[05:25] <funkyHat> HAHAHAA
[05:25] <dbernar1> thats fine...
[05:25] <robotgeek> :))
[05:25] <dbernar1> many dont get it right away.
[05:26] <dbernar1> while we are at bots, I just joined #debian, and dpkg is not there?!
[05:26] <Madpilot> TecnoVM64: uBOTu can't help itself... ;)
[05:26] <funkyHat> ubotu, i think it's you that's smoking crack
[05:26] <ubotu> funkyHat: Are you smoking crack?
[05:26] <dbernar1> he wants some, I think.
[05:26] <funkyHat> yes ubotu, want some?
[05:27] <Madpilot> my favourite ubotu trick:
[05:27] <Madpilot> !start a language war
[05:27] <ubotu> Ruby is better than C++!
[05:27] <funkyHat> :D
[05:27] <TecnoVM64> hahah
[05:27] <robotgeek> !vi
[05:27] <ubotu> robotgeek: Are you smoking crack?
[05:27] <funkyHat> :D:D:D
[05:27] <daniels> no language flamewars here, please
[05:27] <daniels> oh great, a bot doing that
[05:27] <daniels> please don't play with the bot
[05:27] <Madpilot> daniels: but ubotu started it! honest!
[05:27] <robotgeek> daniels: :)
[05:28] <dbernar1> daniels, do you know where dpkg is?
[05:28] <dbernar1> is it something exciting, or just maintenance?
[05:29] <daniels> dbernar1: i had no idea it was even in this channel
[05:30] <SirPenguinTheDuc> hi guys....i have a super quick questions
[05:30] <Mobus> #xmms
[05:30] <dbernar1> no, it is now.
[05:30] <dbernar1> it is not, sorry.
[05:31] <tritium> SirPenguinTheDuc, go ahead and ask :)
[05:31] <SirPenguinTheDuc> um.....will this run on an intel 486?
[05:31] <dbernar1> it was not that quick.
[05:31] <tritium> yep
[05:31] <dbernar1> :)
[05:31] <dbernar1> the answer was...
[05:31] <SirPenguinTheDuc> jus checkin
[05:31] <Madpilot> I think someone should program "start an editor war" into ubotu, that'll really get people excited... <evil grin>
[05:32] <dbernar1> ya, my editor is better than yours, very exciting:)
[05:32] <robotgeek> are there logs of this channel maintained somewhere
[05:32] <robotgeek> dbernar1: it is!
[05:32] <tritium> yes, robotgeek
[05:32] <Madpilot> Linux people seem to take their editors very seriously, I've noticed...
[05:33] <dbernar1> Madpilot: ya, I notice linux attracts many opinionated people, also very stubborn, and narrow minded.
[05:33] <robotgeek> yeah, i now use my vim on windows, and even in microsoft word!
[05:33] <robotgeek> tritium: where, though>
[05:33] <dbernar1> maybe cause of the freedom thing.
[05:34] <dbernar1> !seen ubuntulog
[05:34] <ubotu> dbernar1: i haven't seen 'ubuntulog'
[05:34] <dbernar1> well, I see him right here.
[05:34] <Mobus> Ok I habe a little problem with my GLIB, can anyone help me with this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/685
[05:35] <dbernar1> my links dont work in epiphany.
[05:35] <dbernar1> I know how to fix it I think tho.
[05:35] <dbernar1> ha, Im good.
[05:35] <tritium> robotgeek, one of the devs keeps the logs.
[05:35] <dbernar1> Mobus: compiling it?
[05:36] <Mobus> I'm configuring for a compile, thats what that error was from yes
[05:36] <Mobus> for xmms
[05:37] <robotgeek> tritium: i was planning to wrtie another bot, which learns the common questions ppl ask and reply when it's sure, i tht the logs might be a good place to start
[05:37] <dbernar1> so you are compiling glib
[05:37] <Mobus> no
[05:37] <dbernar1> is that exactly what it is called? is it in apt?
[05:37] <Mobus> reworx that please
[05:37] <Madpilot> robotgeek: an auto-answering bot might get swamped in a channel like this
[05:37] <Mobus> reword*
[05:38] <tritium> robotgeek, I'm not sure if I should be advertising the log location publicly.  I'd have to ask first.
[05:38] <Mobus> with less pronouns
[05:38] <dbernar1> what is the package you are compiling called, is there a binary version in any of the repositories.
[05:38] <drcode> hi all
[05:38] <jago25_98> How do I put this computer into sleep mode?
[05:38] <Mobus> the package I am compiling is xmms-1.2.10
[05:39] <dbernar1> ok.
[05:39] <Mobus> I already compiled glib-1.2.2
[05:39] <dbernar1> jago25_98: does log out>sleep work?
[05:39] <robotgeek> tritium: that okay, it's for a project which i would be starting abt 2 months down the line
[05:39] <tritium> robotgeek, ok, I'll find out for you
[05:39] <robotgeek> Madpilot: "intelligence"
[05:39] <robotgeek> tritium: thanks
[05:39] <jago25_98> dbernar1: nope, looks like not in kde
[05:40] <eyequeue> ii  xmms           1.2.10+cvs2005
[05:40] <tritium> jago25_98, you may have to uncomment line 2 of /etc/default/acpi-support (ACPI_SLEEP=true)
[05:41] <vader> hey there tritium
[05:41] <eyequeue> Filename: pool/main/x/xmms/xmms_1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu1_i386.deb
[05:41] <eyequeue> Filename: pool/main/x/xmms/xmms_1.2.10-2ubuntu1_i386.deb
[05:41] <dbernar1> nice.
[05:41] <eyequeue> Mobus:  why not just sudo apt-get install xmms
[05:42] <tritium> hi vader
[05:42] <Mobus> it says it can't find xmms package
[05:42] <vader> vader= kevin dude
[05:42] <Mobus> but IO'll try it again
[05:43] <Mobus> root@Mobus:/home/mobus/xmms-1.2.10 # sudo apt-get install xmms
[05:43] <Mobus> Reading package lists... Done
[05:43] <Mobus> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:43] <Mobus> Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:43] <Mobus> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:43] <Mobus> is only available from another source
[05:43] <Mobus> E: Package xmms has no installation candidate
[05:43] <IIIEars> !pastebin
[05:43] <ubotu> pastebin is probably at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[05:43] <tritium> Mobus, please don't paste in the channel.  Use pastebin or #flood
[05:43] <eyequeue> Mobus:  see  http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/sound/xmms
[05:43] <Mobus> sry
[05:43] <tritium> vader, do I know you?
[05:43] <vader> yes, I am usually here as kevin
[05:44] <tritium> okay, nice to see you, kevin :)
[05:44] <vader> ;)
[05:44] <dbernar1> Mobus: xmms=very standard.
[05:44] <robotgeek> dbernar1: xmms keeps skipping :(
[05:44] <eyequeue> Mobus:  it is in main, so needs no aditional repositories even
[05:44] <robotgeek> dbernar1: i use vlc :)
[05:45] <synd> how can i get rid of the window around terminal?
[05:45] <synd> to give the "integrated into the desktop" look
[05:45] <eyequeue> synd:  alt-ctrl-f2
[05:45] <aru> View > Full Screen?
[05:45] <synd> eyequeue: same to get it back?
[05:45] <eyequeue> synd:  alt-ctrl-f7
[05:46] <dbernar1> hehe, not exactly what he means, prolly, but his question is a little undefined.
[05:46] <aru> I just have one fullscreen on my second desktop, incase I need to break stuff
[05:46] <aru> he clicked the close button
[05:47] <vader> tomorrow morning I will probly be here, going to need help moding my menu lists
[05:47] <abarbaccia> hey all - anybody here use a rio mp3 player?
[05:47] <vader> lol
[05:47] <IIIEars> Can you add transparency to the terminal?
[05:48] <synd> IIIEars, yes
[05:48] <IIIEars> Really? - co-ol!
[05:48] <dbernar1> but only for the desktop, windows under it wont be shown in gnome.
[05:48] <synd> synd, but its a false transparency
[05:48] <rommer> how can i run a command automatically when the computer boots?
[05:48] <IIIEars> similar to x-chat - yes?
[05:48] <synd> IIIEars*
[05:48] <synd> yes
[05:48] <teferi> IIIEars: yeah, it'll show you your desktop background, but not any intervening windows
[05:49] <teferi> it's the same terminal widget - zvt
[05:49] <IIIEars> Is it easy to do?
[05:49] <wenzhuo> it seems to me that the index files of hoary-security/universe and hoary/universe are broken.
[05:49] <funkyHat> no, you can add a crappy background 'transparency', i'm afraid that's as good as it gets on X ;)
[05:49] <teferi> yeah, that's what we're talking about
[05:49] <Chandon> Doing this the hard way is going to be easier. What are the gotchas for building a custom kernel on Ubuntu?
[05:49] <Mobus> ok that didn't work
[05:49] <wenzhuo> anybody here experiences the same problem?
[05:49] <funkyHat> i know :D
[05:49] <teferi> one day, we'll finally have fast RENDER performance
[05:49] <IIIEars> links, pointers, tips?
[05:49] <teferi> ...and one day, pigs will fly and we'll all cavort about on the big rock candy mountain
[05:50] <synd> so how does one rid the window around terminal
[05:50] <teferi> IIIEars: for gnome-terminal?
[05:50] <funkyHat> one windows feature i miss, alpha
[05:50] <aru> synd: View > Fullscreen?
[05:50] <tritium> Chandon, you don't want to just build alsa modules?
[05:50] <teferi> edit->current profile->effects
[05:50] <IIIEars> yes please, - adding transparency sounds pretty good. :0
[05:50] <wenzhuo> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format   Err http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages
[05:50] <synd> aru: i dont want it fullscreen.
[05:50] <IIIEars> :)
[05:50] <teferi> funkyHat: well, whatshisface is rewriting the X acceleration architecture to make RENDER fast, isn't he?
[05:50] <funkyHat> who what?
[05:51] <funkyHat> ok, sounds goood
[05:51] <synd> so how does one rid the window around terminal. anyone?
[05:51] <Madpilot> IIIEars: in Terminal, Edit-Current Profile then Effects tab
[05:51] <funkyHat> um, you can do it synd i know.....
[05:51] <synd> funkyHat: i know it can be done
[05:51] <synd> funkyHat: just not sure how
[05:51] <Chandon> tritium, There are a couple things I get out of a custom kernel like swsusp. That, and I'm having trouble figuring out how to build alsa modules that will work with the stock kernel.
[05:52] <rommer> how can i run a command automatically when the computer boots?
[05:52] <IIIEars> Madpilot - Thank You. - that was just too easy - grin
[05:52] <IIIEars> nice
[05:52] <Madpilot> IIIEars: np. looks a bit funny - OK, a lot funny - over another full-screen program, though...
[05:52] <wenzhuo> The package indexes of hoary-security/universe and hoary/universe are broken!
[05:52] <synd> rommer: in a console, you do sudo <command> -m
[05:52] <tritium> Chandon, you can enable suspend-to-ram in /etc/default/acpi-support (uncomment #SLEEP=true)
[05:52] <synd> rommer: iirc
[05:53] <aru> synd: wouldnt fullscreen work?
[05:53] <synd> aru: i dont want it fullscreen
[05:53] <aru> takes the window away
[05:53] <rommer> iirc?
[05:53] <synd> aru: yes, it does. and i knew that previously
[05:53] <Chandon> tritium, That'd be close, if it really works.
[05:54] <aru> synd: problem solved! :)
[05:54] <synd> aru: it actually just pushes the border outside of where you can see. its still there
[05:54] <tritium> Chandon, ymmv, but it works brilliantly for me
[05:54] <synd> rommer: if i remember correctly
[05:54] <Chandon> tritium, That still leaves me with the problem of getting ALSA 1.09 kernel modules working with my ubuntu-2.6.10 kernel.
[05:54] <synd> aru: no, my problem is not solved.
[05:55] <aru> weird
[05:55] <synd> aru: correct
[05:55] <Mobus> ok does sudo apt-get install xmms work for anyone else?
[05:55] <synd> anyone know?
[05:55] <tritium> Chandon, yes, not the most fun
[05:55] <wenzhuo> can anybody here verify if the package indexes are ok?
[05:55] <synd> Mobus: if you have the correct repositories, it should
[05:55] <IIIEars> hmm - also an app called "alltray" - Worth trying?
[05:55] <aru> View > Fullscreen works here :)
[05:55] <Mobus> repositories?
[05:55] <tritium> Mobus, it's in main, so it should work for everyone
[05:56] <Mobus> but it didn't work for me
[05:56] <Kris> ok I'm back with another question
[05:56] <synd> aru: you are missing something i made clear. i dont want fullscreen terminal.
[05:56] <Kris> are there any undelete programs out there for linux?
[05:56] <synd> undelete programs?
[05:56] <tritium> Mobus, did you update your list of packages first (i.e. sudo apt-get update)?
[05:56] <Kris> any kind of file recovery stuffs
[05:56] <aru> interesting
[05:56] <thechitowncubs> hey everyone, i'm looking for someone that knows how to make nautilus scripts to help me make a script that uploads images to imageshack such as this tool http://reg.imageshack.us/content.php?page=quickload
[05:56] <Mobus> no not yet... I'll do that
[05:57] <tritium> Kris, "apt-cache search undelete"
[05:57] <Chandon> tritium, When I do give in and build a custom kernel, what's going to go horribly wrong?
[05:57] <Mobus> did it... same error
[05:57] <Kris> ok, will that let me undelete things that were maliciously deleted by my wife via samba earlier today? :-/
[05:57] <synd> aru: you're bugging me
[05:57] <aru> ok
[05:57] <tritium> Chandon, not sure how to answer that.  I'd suggest using kernel-package if you decide to build your own kernel.
[05:57] <IIIEars> synd - take a peek at "alltray" - quite a few powerful options. - haven't tried it just saw it a min ago.
[05:58] <Mobus> ok I updated my package list, and it didn't wokr
[05:58] <robotgeek> Chandon: you can build the kernel module, but not install them
[05:58] <synd> IIIEars: ah, nice. will do. thanks!
[05:58] <IIIEars> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38938 alltray
[05:58] <thechitowncubs> did anyone look at that link?
[05:59] <Chandon> robotgeek, I'm stuck on "error: your kernel has built in ALSA" when I try to ./configure
[06:00] <tritium> Chandon, crimsun is the man to talk to.  He's the resident alsa expert
[06:00] <robotgeek> Chandon: oops, they din't build alsa as a module
[06:00] <Chinman> how to input chinese in ubuntu?
[06:00] <robotgeek> Chandon: Chandon, most likely u need to custom kernel compile
[06:01] <Chandon> So... I guess the question is: does kernel-package work any differently on Ubuntu than on Debian?
[06:01] <tritium> Chandon, pretty much the same.
[06:01] <desrt> you don't need to do that
[06:01] <robotgeek> Chandon: i would't think so, though i havent rebuilt my kernel on ubuntu
[06:01] <desrt> you can use the alsa-source
[06:01] <tritium> he doesn't want to
[06:01] <desrt> ah
[06:02] <Mobus> ok how do I get spt-get install xmms to work?
[06:02] <Chinman> apt-get -f install
[06:03] <reka> no
[06:03] <tritium> Mobus, what's happening when you try?
[06:03] <rommer> what is heartbeat?
[06:03] <reka> Mobus: what error are you getting?
[06:03] <robotgeek> rommer: powerbook?
[06:03] <hacked`> guys
[06:03] <rommer> no
[06:03] <hacked`> can i install any mini pci nic on my laptop ?
[06:03] <thechitowncubs> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JapaneseInputHowto
[06:03] <hacked`> or are only "some" supported
[06:04] <desrt> some
[06:04] <thechitowncubs> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JapaneseInputHowto
[06:04] <thechitowncubs> chinman click that
[06:04] <desrt> hacked`; search for "wireless" on the wiki for a list
[06:04] <hacked`> why some
[06:04] <hacked`> desrt, im talking about my laptop, not ubuntu
[06:04] <Mobus> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/686
[06:04] <dbernar1> hacked....
[06:04] <hacked`> can i go out and buy any mini pci wifi card for my laptop
[06:05] <robotgeek> rommer: what u toalking about?
[06:05] <Mobus> any ideas on how to solve that problem?
[06:05] <robotgeek> rommer: talking
[06:05] <desrt> hacked`; why are you  asking in here, then?
[06:05] <hacked`> cause i have 1 cheap laptop and 1 decent laptop, and the cheap laptop has the better wifi card, and i want to swap cards
[06:05] <dbernar1> Mobus: paste your sources.list to pastebin
[06:05] <hacked`> desrt, because the cheaper card is better supported by ubuntu
[06:05] <bimberi> hacked`: Information regarding support for various cards - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[06:05] <desrt> ah
[06:05] <rommer> robotgeek: sudo apt-cache search heartbeat
[06:05] <Mobus> wehre's my sources.list?
[06:05] <desrt> bimberi; cheers
[06:06] <desrt> Mobus; /etc/apt
[06:06] <Mobus> ok
[06:06] <dbernar1> rommer, asked synaptic?
[06:06] <tritium> rommer, don't need sudo with apt-cache :)
[06:06] <IIIEars> hacked - Give it a try. - ubuntu supports most wifi without any problems
[06:06] <desrt> Mobus; you can use synaptic to add/remove repositories
[06:06] <bimberi> desrt: np :)
[06:06] <rommer> tritium: yea, habit
[06:06] <robotgeek> rommer: sorry,no idea
[06:06] <Chinman> thechitowncubs: i mean chinese. anyway, i will have a look at that. thanks
[06:07] <tritium> rommer, cool :)
[06:07] <thechitowncubs> Chinman: it might work with chinese it says
[06:07] <IIIEars> hacked - if it worked with the live CD it will undoubtedly work with the HD install.  If it doesn't right off a little tweaking will make things right.
[06:07] <Mobus> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/687
[06:07] <thechitowncubs> hey everyone, i'm looking for someone that knows how to make nautilus scripts to help me make a script that uploads images to imageshack such as this tool http://reg.imageshack.us/content.php?page=quickload
[06:07] <Mobus> sources.list ^
[06:08] <reka> Mobus: hehe. replace your sources.list with the one here :http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38, then 'sudo apt-get update'
[06:08] <robotgeek> thechitowncubs: nautilus has scripting?
[06:08] <thechitowncubs> uh ya
[06:08] <reka> Mobus: you only have the CD as your source of packages. :)
[06:08] <synd> IIIEars: whats was the name of that?
[06:09] <thechitowncubs> Chinman: http://www.ubuntu.org.cn/
[06:09] <glick> scuse me how do i get nvu
[06:09] <glick> it doesnt seem to be in any of the repositories
[06:09] <Mobus> ok now its giving me this BS that I'm not the owner
[06:09] <IIIEars> alltray? - yep, couldn't find it with synaptic only the link in ubuntu forums. (shrug)
[06:09] <helpmepls> hello how to disable MySQL password ??
[06:09] <desrt> Mobus; you need to be root to edit it
[06:09] <synd> IIIEars: got that forum link? i accidentally hit alt+f4 :/
[06:09] <reka> Mobus: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:09] <Mobus> Then why did ubuntu never give me a root account when I installed It?
[06:10] <funkyHat> glick, download the .package from nvu.com
[06:10] <helpmepls> hello
[06:10] <Mobus> I only have one account on the comp
[06:10] <reka> Mobus: b/c it's disabled by default
[06:10] <glick> funkyHat, damn :(
[06:10] <glick> funkyHat, is nvu even any good
[06:10] <glick> ?
[06:10] <reka> !tell Mobus about rootsudo
[06:10] <glick> is it worth getting?
[06:10] <funkyHat> glick, it's easy to do, trust me :)
[06:10] <glick> funkyHat, no i mean is the program decent?
[06:10] <helpmepls> hello how to disable MySQL password ??
[06:11] <desrt> helpmepls; repeating yourself is rude.  you might want to ask in a more appropriate channel
[06:11] <funkyHat> i don't really use it much, but it seems pretty good
[06:11] <helpmepls> can help me pls
[06:11] <hacked`> anyone ever set a wifi card to monitor mode before?
[06:11] <desrt> helpmepls; if nobody answers it's because nobody knows.  see if you can find the mysql irc channel
[06:11] <tzuqris> ok
[06:11] <tzuqris> sound is very important to me
[06:11] <desrt> helpmepls; someone there would probably know
[06:11] <Mobus> ok I changed sources.list
[06:11] <funkyHat> generates much much cleaner code than dreamweaver or frontpage too
[06:12] <Mobus> what the command for update now?
[06:12] <helpmepls> i was searching on google
[06:12] <tzuqris> if i can't get sound up in ubuntu i go back to slackware
[06:12] <helpmepls> but not found
[06:12] <Mobus> sudo apt-get update?
[06:12] <desrt> weird
[06:12] <desrt> i just typed /join #mysql
[06:12] <desrt> and there it was
[06:12] <desrt> ....
[06:12] <reka> Mobus: yes
[06:12] <helpmepls> k
[06:12] <desrt> good luck
[06:13] <Mobus> ok its updating
[06:14] <desrt> i hate when people have typos in their quit messages
[06:14] <reka> Mobus: also, you might want to install beep-media-player instead of xmms...it's prettier
[06:14] <desrt> you can't tell them about it and by the time they come back you never remember
[06:14] <Mobus> nah, I like winamp
[06:15] <desrt> skip that stuff
[06:15] <desrt> install muine :)
[06:15] <tzuqris> ok
[06:15] <tzuqris> then
[06:15] <tzuqris> i am now leaving ubuntu
[06:15] <glick> does anyone here use nvu or is there something better/easier?
[06:15] <reka> Mobus: it's an xmms clone
[06:15] <desrt> tzuqris; ciao.  see you later.
[06:15] <desrt> IIIEars; your quit message has a typo in it :)
[06:15] <funkyHat> glick, try it out anyway
[06:15] <tzuqris> you guys are great too
[06:15] <bimberi> :)
[06:15] <tzuqris> rather than help me...you say bye...
[06:15] <tzuqris> ok
[06:15] <desrt> tzuqris; we love ya :)
[06:15] <tzuqris> slackware is better anyway
[06:16] <Mobus> YAY!
[06:16] <dabar> tzuqris: what do you need?
[06:16] <funkyHat> good, bye then
[06:16] <tzuqris> nada
[06:16] <tzuqris> going back to slack
[06:16] <desrt> peace, d00d
[06:16] <dabar> ok, what did you need?
[06:16] <tzuqris> sound works fine
[06:16] <desrt> are you leaving or what?
[06:16] <tritium> ignore the troll
[06:16] <IIIEars> heh - Thanks for noticing it. - eye canned spell. - ispell corrects words but interferes with nick completion. - you guys are stuck with me. - lol
[06:16] <tzuqris> but i can't get anything but static
[06:16] <dabar> oh, trolling?
[06:16] <desrt> IIIEars; :)
[06:17] <dabar> tzuqris: well, there are entries in the wiki, and on the forums about sound...
[06:17] <dabar> search for sound.
[06:17] <glick> also, how can i convert big as images to jpegs?
[06:17] <glick> i mean to thumbnails
[06:17] <tritium> tzuqris, see the User Documentation in the topic.  There are very useful wiki pages.
[06:17] <desrt> glick; install imagemagick
[06:18] <desrt> glick; it has this nifty 'convert' program in it that does thumbnails
[06:18] <tzuqris> i've tried forums and stuff guys
[06:18] <glick> kick ass
[06:18] <tritium> tzuqris, did you check out the User Documentation?
[06:18] <desrt> glick; i think the command is something like convert original.jpeg -resize 100x100 thumb.jpeg
[06:18] <tritium> or search the wiki?
[06:18] <glick> nice
[06:18] <desrt> glick; to make an image that's at most 100x100 (ie: will preserve aspect ratio)
[06:19] <glick> desrt, is there an easier way to make quick and dirty html other thean nvu?
[06:19] <mgcross> tzuqris: what's your sound card?
[06:19] <desrt> i don't know what nvu is
[06:19] <glick> i dont know shit about shit abut html and i dont have time or the ambition to learn
[06:19] <Mobus> oh crap... xmms just crashed
[06:19] <reka> Mobus: change the ouput plugin to esound
[06:20] <Mobus> can't really, it crashed
[06:20] <concept10> glick, you could use nvu to make a WYSIWYG page and just save the htl output
[06:20] <reka> Mobus: killall xmms
[06:20] <Mobus> WYSIWYG IS EVIL!
[06:20] <glick> i have to compile nvu myself :(
[06:20] <reka> Mobus: then change it in preferences
[06:20] <Mobus> in terminal?
[06:20] <concept10> glick, you shouldnt have to
[06:21] <tzuqris> nah
[06:21] <tzuqris> i am not fighting with it
[06:21] <reka> Mobus: the killall comand? yes
[06:21] <tzuqris> i have looked at too many pages
[06:21] <funkyHat> Mobus, kill it, start it again, and _then_ change the output plugin ;)
[06:21] <tzuqris> ubuntu isn't cutting it for me
[06:21] <funkyHat> tzuqris, we noticed
[06:21] <glick> i dont see a deb anywhere
[06:21] <tzuqris> i will recommend ubuntu to my idiot friends
[06:21] <redtech> how might a usb external HD enclosure come up?
[06:21] <mgcross> tzuqris: you'd like this better than slack if you'd give it some time...new way of doing thinks...but, each to hisown...
[06:22] <funkyHat> glick, of nvu? get the .package
[06:22] <daba1> tzuqris: I recommend Ubuntu to all my idiot friends.
[06:22] <mgcross> tzuqris: slack isn't evil, or bad
[06:22] <desrt> i recomment ubuntu to everyone i know
[06:22] <tritium> tzuqris, please we're trying to help you.  No need to troll.
[06:22] <desrt> idiot or otherwise
[06:22] <glick> funkyHat, how do install that?
[06:22] <orborde> When I download a new version of Firefox, should I kill the Firefox package in Synaptic and then install?
[06:23] <mgcross> desrt: me too!
[06:23] <funkyHat> glick, make it executable, and then sudo it
[06:23] <desrt> dabar; wb.
[06:23] <robotgeek> orborde: no need to
[06:23] <concept10> glick, hmm, no one has contributed a .deb since the 1.0 release it seems
[06:23] <daba1> orborde: you should update through synaptic. Then, also, you should change a line in about:config to upgrade to 1.0.4
[06:24] <glick> damnit
[06:24] <funkyHat> it will download a 'package' installer and install that too
[06:24] <robotgeek> daba1: how do we i save the about:config change?
[06:24] <redtech> a ha sda1
[06:24] <concept10> glick, im going to try to install the auto package
[06:24] <glick> screw it ill write up the damn html by hand tomorrow, i just wanna post some pics of my guitar for sale on my website
[06:24] <dbernar1> robotgeek: it is saved, I think.
[06:24] <glick> dont feel like installing stray packages
[06:25] <orborde> dabal: How do I update through Synaptic?
[06:25] <concept10> have you heard of autopackage?
[06:25] <dbernar1> nvu is pretty standard, not stray.
[06:25] <robotgeek> dbernar1: i have to do it all the time
[06:25] <glick> dbernar1, then whys it not in the repos?
[06:25] <dbernar1> orborde: called the three button dance by Burgundavia, I think.
[06:25] <tzuqris> guys
[06:25] <tzuqris> really
[06:25] <desrt> sigh
[06:25] <tzuqris> i admire ubuntu, it's quite nice...it's made a top distro on my list and i have something to tell friends to try
[06:25] <desrt> tzuqris; thanks for trying out for my /ignore list.  you just qualified.
[06:25] <funkyHat> glick, it shows up in 'manage 3rd party software' and is easily removable
[06:26] <glick> funkyHat, ok so i have the package file
[06:26] <tzuqris> whatever
[06:26] <glick> so just make it executable and do sudo sh nvu.package?
[06:26] <mgcross> tzuqris is just frustrated..down boys
[06:26] <mgcross> and grrrls
[06:26] <tzuqris> mgcross: dun worry about it
[06:27] <funkyHat> glick, yep
[06:27] <tritium> please remember the Code of Conduct
[06:27] <glick> i cant wait till my horn comes
[06:27] <desrt> tritium; there's a code?
[06:27] <geneo91> what is xwrapper.config
[06:27] <tritium> desrt, yes...
[06:28] <desrt> got a url?
[06:28] <dbernar1> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[06:28] <tritium> thanks, dbernar1
[06:28] <dbernar1> why did I have to look thta up twice already?
[06:28] <dbernar1> Ubuntu is not alive here:)
[06:28] <Rotund> can someone help me get an airport card to work under ubuntu?
[06:29] <dbernar1> airport, thats it, not extreme?
[06:29] <Rotund> no
[06:29] <dbernar1> so, airport extreme?
[06:29] <Rotund> 802.11B  The 128-bit version.  Not the 64-bit.  Yes it is still an original airport.  I'm sure there were two.
[06:29] <nJess> i need assistance
[06:30] <redtech> i attached an external hd with a usb enclosure and succesfully mounted it.  I see that its a linux drive is there anything on the drive I can look at to identify the distro?  I dont remember what I was doing with this drive  LOL
[06:30] <glick> wow thats hot :)
[06:30] <dbernar1> nJess: cute.
[06:30] <dbernar1> redtech: /etc
[06:31] <HrdwrBoB> redtech: check /etc
[06:31] <nJess> two things, one, how do i make an image of a CD?
[06:31] <geneo91> tritium what is wrapper.config
[06:31] <funkyHat> glick, autopackage? i was pretty impressed too
[06:31] <HrdwrBoB> for any file called redhat or debian or whatever
[06:31] <glick> quite impressive actually
[06:31] <nJess> two, how do i set up my box to allow other machines to network boot off of it
[06:31] <linlin___> How do i set it so a command is run any time any user logs in?
[06:31] <tritium> geneo91, hmm?
[06:31] <glick> linux is grown up more and more every day
[06:32] <Rotund> the airport is NOT autodetected.  Though modprobing airport does bring up an eth1.  yes it works under osx.
[06:32] <redtech> debian_version
[06:32] <redtech> thanks!
[06:32] <glick> i know how to install shit from source, and compile my own software, but goddamnnit i shouldnt have to in this day and age!
[06:32] <geneo91> tritium:  its in the X11 folder
[06:32] <HrdwrBoB> Rotund: if it works after that you can put airport in /etc/modules
[06:32] <funkyHat> heheheheh
[06:32] <redtech> now..  what the hell was I doing...   roflrofl
[06:32] <HrdwrBoB> glick: exactly
[06:32] <rommer> how do u change the computer naem?
[06:32] <robotgeek> glick: since you are not in a gentoo forum, it's okay to say that!
[06:32] <Rotund> glick: GNU Source.  helps somewhat
[06:33] <HrdwrBoB> rommer: it's in /etc/hostname
[06:33] <orborde> How do I get Synaptic to operate through a proxy?
[06:33] <rommer> ok tyhanks
[06:33] <nJess> Question: how do i run thin clients off of ubuntu?
[06:34] <tritium> geneo91, the best answer is "man Xwrapper.config"
[06:35] <derekgiles> hi all
[06:35] <derekgiles> ne one here?
[06:35] <desrt> hello.
[06:35] <dbernar1> orborde: do you need to? there is an option, I am sure in the menus...
[06:35] <IIIEars> nJess - this covers it. - not one click simple but not very difficult. http://www.ltsp.org/
[06:36] <funkyHat> hmm... it's 5:40am... i think i should go to bed
[06:36] <redtech> now here is a question that I have been meaning to ask..  In windoze if you dont "stop" a usb device you can piss it off.  Do you need todo anything special in *nix ?
[06:36] <nJess> IIIEars, the cd thing or the thin client thing?
[06:36] <desrt> funkyHat; non-sense.  it's only 12:36
[06:36] <funkyHat> heh
[06:36] <IIIEars> funkyHat - Are ya wimping out on us? - lol    g'nite :)
[06:36] <derekgiles> okay say I install this on my computer and like Im on a network and Im the only one on the network with this everyone else on windows can I still be networked to them or do i have to be on windows to be networked?
[06:36] <orborde> dbernarl: Since my Internet on this machine is through a proxy, yes. I set the HTTP proxy setting, but it's still not getting any new info.
[06:36] <IIIEars> thin is in - lol
[06:36] <funkyHat> i live in a real country ;), where we have the real time
[06:37] <desrt> ah
[06:37] <desrt> OTT
[06:37] <desrt> OneTrueTime(tm)
[06:37] <dbernar1> redtech: umount...
[06:37] <derekgiles> someone help me please
[06:37] <redtech> dbernar1, thats all?  I always feel like im missing something..
[06:37] <orborde> Do I need to set up the FTP proxy as well?
[06:38] <desrt> derekgiles; you want samba
[06:38] <dbernar1> umount umounts it,. and then it is not mounted.
[06:38] <desrt> derekgiles; you can install it with the package manager
[06:38] <derekgiles> whats samba desrt?
[06:38] <funkyHat> night all :)
[06:38] <dbernar1> orborde: not sure.
[06:38] <dbernar1> see ya
[06:38] <desrt> derekgiles; it's a program for letting linux computers function in groups of windows computers
[06:38] <desrt> derekgiles; file and print sharing stuff, basically
[06:38] <orborde> dbernarl: I guess I'll log off and activate that bit of the proxy,
[06:38] <derekgiles> and id just burn it to a cd
[06:38] <fabbione> hi desrt
[06:38] <derekgiles> would i beable to use internet also
[06:38] <desrt> fabbione; hey.  'sup?
[06:38] <dbernar1> hehe, I read the derekgiles message someone help me please, then I read his original message, and when I saw windows, I was like, ok, well, I dont know...
[06:39] <fabbione> desrt: i got the fix for the scripts/ ready
[06:39] <desrt> derekgiles; oh.  you're not even on the internet with your ubuntu box?  that's another story then
[06:39] <desrt> fabbione; rocking :)
[06:39] <orborde> Oh, wait. Hang on.
[06:39] <fabbione> desrt: it will be in the next upload..
[06:39] <orborde> The only thing listed in the "Repositories" dialog is the CD.
[06:39] <desrt> fabbione; gorecki was down over the weekend due to some power work on campus.. i hope it didn't affect you
[06:39] <orborde> What's the URI for the Ubuntu update  thingy?
[06:39] <derekgiles> is there away i can use the internet from the windows computer on ubuntu?
[06:39] <desrt> derekgiles; what sort of network card do you have?  ethernet?  wireless?
[06:40] <fabbione> desrt: not at all... i had the fix ready 2/3 days ago
[06:40] <derekgiles> ethernet
[06:40] <fabbione> desrt: i used diff to check :)
[06:40] <desrt> derekgiles; did the ubuntu installer detect your card?
[06:40] <orborde> derekgiles: Yes, you can. I am, at least.
[06:40] <desrt> fabbione; :)
[06:40] <derekgiles> see im just downloading the file now
[06:40] <desrt> derekgiles; ahh.  ubuntu isn't installed yet?
[06:40] <Mobus> xmms freezes whenever I hit play.. Can anyone help me fik this problem?
[06:40] <derekgiles> nah
[06:40] <desrt> ok
[06:40] <poppycock> was up
[06:41] <desrt> when ubuntu comes up it should automatically detect your network
[06:41] <derekgiles> so it may auto-detect it and Id be fine than?
[06:41] <KrisWood> hello, still trying to figure out how to recover lost files on ubuntu
[06:41] <desrt> and if you have a DHCP server on your network (you probably do) then everything will basically be automatic
[06:41] <poppycock> mobus you a beoch
[06:41] <KrisWood> I installed recover and gtkrecover but get a segmentation fault when attempting the recover
[06:41] <desrt> if not you'll need to know what IP address you want for it
[06:41] <Mobus> thanks. I'm flattered
[06:41] <derekgiles> ight and i can have windows and ubuntu on the same computer both installed right I just choose at startup which i want to use?
[06:41] <robotgeek> poppycock: cool it
[06:41] <KrisWood> is anyone familiar with this program, or does anyone know of any others that do the same thing?
[06:41] <dbernar1> Mobus: I kno.
[06:42] <desrt> derekgiles; yes.  if you install ubuntu on a computer that already has windows on it, that's exactly what it will do
[06:42] <dbernar1> Mobus: open xmms with no file.
[06:42] <Mobus> what?
[06:42] <poppycock> mobus you suck munkee nutts
[06:42] <robotgeek> !ops
[06:42] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!
[06:42] <dbernar1> any ops to kick him?
[06:42] <Mobus> I usually do
[06:42] <IIIEars> KrisWood - How lost is "Lost" - fdisked/formatted over?
[06:42] <Mobus> then I open fiels after I opened it
[06:42] <desrt> kick who?
[06:42] <Mobus> and when I hit play it freezes
[06:42] <derekgiles> ight thatks for ur help desrt
[06:42] <dbernar1> then, right click on it, properties
[06:42] <desrt> derekgiles; i hope things work out well for you :)
[06:42] <poppycock> mobus you are sofa king we todd ed
[06:42] <dbernar1> and in the output plugin, select esd, works every time.
[06:42] <dbernar1> esound
[06:42] <derekgiles> i'll be back if they downt
[06:42] <desrt> :)
[06:43] <desrt> well.  i hope i never see you again, then :)
[06:43] <robotgeek> ignore poppycock
[06:43] <derekgiles> unless i break my computer than I'll be back in a few week
[06:43] <dbernar1> thanks.
[06:43] <derekgiles> Ill come back actually all the time when im on the internet just to idle
[06:43] <derekgiles> ;)
[06:43] <derekgiles> ill yell at you if i t dont work hows that sound desrt
[06:43] <JDahl> I tried to use nautilus to access another box via "connect to server" using SSH. How does that work? I get a fancy small icon, but
[06:44] <bimberi> orborde: You after a sample sources.list? - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[06:44] <Mobus> ok I right clicked on it, but I don't see properties
[06:44] <bimberi> oops - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[06:44] <JDahl> ... small SSH icon, but I am never prompted for a passwork when I click it, and nothing happens
[06:44] <KrisWood> IIIEars, my wife and I got in an argument earlier and she deleted a lot of my work via samba
[06:44] <dbernar1> options>prefs, sotty
[06:44] <desrt> derekgiles; k :)
[06:44] <dbernar1> sorry
[06:45] <Mobus> ok I fized it
[06:45] <tritium> robotgeek, sorry I was temporarily away.  Thanks, fabbione.
[06:45] <KrisWood> (that's the abbreviated version heh)
[06:45] <dbernar1> JDahl: well, works here
[06:45] <dbernar1> wanna go through it together?
[06:45] <robotgeek> tritium: no probs
[06:45] <dbernar1> Mobus: excellent.
[06:45] <Mobus> ok it works now, but I'm getting crappy quality
[06:46] <dbernar1> Mobus: not excellent.
[06:46] <firebird619> I am trying to install f-spot and I first tried installing from Synaptic but the program doesn't run. I am now trying to install it through Terminal with configure, make, and make install but it says for Library requirements I need libgnome-2.0 >= 2.2 libgnomeui-2.0 >= 2. 2 libexif >= 0.5.7 libexif < 0.7.0 gtkhtml-sharp >= 1.0 gconf-sharp >= 1.0 glade -sharp >= 1.0 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4. The first 4 libraries listed are installed according
[06:46] <JDahl> dbernar1, yeah.. that would be great, if you have time... regular SSH between the boxes works fine
[06:46] <KrisWood> trying to recover a few months of work that was deleted via samba is all.... dunno how deleted that makes it...
[06:46] <dbernar1> JDahl: open a nautilus window;)
[06:46] <desrt> firebird619; f-spot is in apt... you should just be able to apt-get it
[06:47] <dbernar1> file>connect to server.
[06:47] <dbernar1> run a ssh server on that box, JDahl?
[06:47] <desrt> oh.  i see.
[06:47] <desrt> firebird619; try running the synaptic f-spot from the terminal
[06:47] <IIIEars> Kriswood - If you are good with linux no problem. - google "forensics" i really like Helix (knoppix based) they all include usually the same base tools from penguin sleuth kit.
[06:47] <Mobus> man my problems are like a snowball rolling down a hill...
[06:47] <JDahl> dbernar1, yeah... I can ssh to and from both boxes
[06:47] <desrt> firebird619; see if it says anything like error messages
[06:47] <Mobus> fiz one, here's another 4
[06:47] <firebird619> desrt: Isn't that sort of the same thing as getting it through Synaptic. Will apt-get also download all these dependencies that I need?
[06:48] <orborde> bimberi: I guess. Thanks,
[06:48] <desrt> firebird619; ya.  it's exactly the same thing.  my mistake.... by the time i got to the end of what you wrote i had forgotten the beginning :)
[06:48] <IIIEars> here is an ext2 fs driver tool for windows http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[06:48] <orborde> bimberi: Now if my Firefox weren't all screwed up, I could get to it.
[06:48] <dbernar1> JDahl: ok, lets do this first, then...
[06:48] <firebird619> desrt: Sorry for the long message. When I tried getting it through Synaptic I didn't get any errors.
[06:48] <desrt> firebird619; i'd say you're much more likely to get the old one working than succeed at trying to install it on your own
[06:48] <bimberi> orborde: I can paste contents to a /query if you like
[06:49] <dbernar1> so, file>connect to server, SSH in the dropdown, server: localhost, Port:22, folder: /home/username, user name: username, then hit the connect button
[06:49] <Mobus> oh I c
[06:49] <Mobus> its not winamp that's crappy quality
[06:49] <KrisWood> IIIEars, ok I'll look that up
[06:49] <IIIEars> KrisWood, - F.I.R.E. looks pretty popular also
[06:49] <Mobus> everything is crappy quality
[06:49] <JDahl> dbernar1, why localhost? wouldnt it be the IP number of the remote host?
[06:49] <firebird619> desrt: How can I get the one install from Synaptic working. It needs those libraries and all I find them for is gentoo. Will alien convert them to .deb files?
[06:49] <dbernar1> I only have one comp right here, so that is why.
[06:50] <dbernar1> try the other IP,
[06:50] <orborde> bimberi: No, I got it. What is /query?
[06:50] <dbernar1> wanna join #nautilus?
[06:50] <desrt> firebird619; you said you installed it successfully from synaptic but it wouldn't run, right?
[06:50] <gp_aaron|server> ok I have a presetup full ubuntu install
[06:50] <desrt> firebird619; install it again with synaptic and let's try and get it running
[06:50] <dkoh2> does anyone know anything about upgrading firefox?
[06:50] <firebird619> desrt: right.
[06:50] <JDahl> dbernar1, this is what I did before... still doesnt work, it times out with the "Opening MySSH-CON"
[06:50] <gp_aaron|server> how can I i boot into textmode?
[06:51] <IIIEars> !firefox
[06:51] <ubotu> Firefox on warty is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[06:51] <Mobus> how do I disable a device in the device manager?
[06:51] <IIIEars> Oops not very helpful
[06:51] <desrt> Mobus; disable how?
[06:51] <dbernar1> JDahl: do with the localhost.
[06:51] <mgcross> hey all...anyone know the code to enter for korean languge from the livecd? wanna impress a local tech...doesn't belive the whole livecd concept...thinks I'm kidding....
[06:51] <Mobus> I know what the problem is
[06:51] <KrisWood> IIIEars, I'll try that one thanks :)
[06:51] <desrt> (device-manager is read-only by the way)
[06:51] <firebird619> desrt: OK I will try reinstalling it. I am on dial-up Internet so it will take a few minutes.
[06:51] <Mobus> its the same one I had in windows
[06:51] <desrt> firebird619; it's probably in your apt cache
[06:51] <mgcross> would dig it up, but I'm in a hurry
[06:51] <Mobus> I have an external USB sound card
[06:52] <Mobus> and a builkt uin one tyo the motherbooard
[06:52] <Mobus> when they're both installed, they go fuzzy
[06:52] <PurpleBlu> what is a good font to use
[06:52] <PurpleBlu> ?
[06:52] <dbernar1> oh, wow, it worked a moment ago.
[06:52] <gp_aaron|server> ?
[06:52] <desrt> Mobus; so you want to prevent the usb one from loading?
[06:52] <dkoh2> thanks
[06:52] <Mobus> so I have to disable my built in souind card in order for my external one to work
[06:52] <desrt> ah
[06:52] <desrt> what type of card?
[06:52] <dbernar1> BIOS, Mobus.
[06:52] <PurpleBlu> Windows always used TImes New Roman not seein that, whats a good font?
[06:52] <Mobus> so I need to disable the sound controller in Device Manager
[06:53] <Mobus> BIOS?
[06:53] <derekgiles> soory another question
[06:53] <Mobus> as in the setup?
[06:53] <Mobus> during boot?
[06:53] <dbernar1> Mobus: I think so, as in while booting, press del
[06:53] <derekgiles> If you already run another operating system, you must re-partition your hard disk in order to install a "standard" Linux distribution << do i need to do that for ubuntu also?
[06:53] <Mobus> eh ok
[06:53] <desrt> Mobus; type lsmod | grep snd-
[06:53] <desrt> sorry
[06:53] <desrt> Mobus; type lsmod | grep snd_
[06:53] <dbernar1> derekgiles: do you have only one partition on the hard disk?
[06:53] <desrt> Mobus; anything in there about ac97 or something?
[06:54] <KrisWood> IIIEars, ok I'm having trouble finding download links for these, any ideas where to find them?
[06:54] <firebird619> desrt: It is done downloading and installing.
[06:54] <derekgiles> Is that like another drive set aside like C and there could be another one D with a set amount of space
[06:54] <derekgiles> ?
[06:54] <mgcross> I'm digging now...anyone save me some time...and introduce Ubuntu to the geeks in Cheonan South Korea ;-)
[06:54] <derekgiles> not like a harddrive just one harddrive acting as more than one
[06:54] <desrt> derekgiles; i think the ubuntu installer will let you shrink your drive C to make space for ubuntu
[06:55] <JDahl> dbernar1, that works from the machine with sshd, but not from a new laptop without it... I thought I just needed the ssh client to make the connection, but maybe not (and right apt is busy doing a slowass postinstall upgrade)
[06:55] <desrt> it's called partitioning... and ya.. that's basically how it works
[06:55] <derekgiles> ight
[06:55] <desrt> of course you need to have enough free space
[06:55] <dbernar1> derekgiles: yes, partition of a hard drive
[06:55] <JDahl> dbernar1, but thanks...
[06:55] <desrt> and it probably helps to defragment first
[06:55] <dbernar1> JDahl: sure:)
[06:55] <tuxhagen> purpleblu: you can install times new roman if you want, take a look for msttcorefonts at synaptic - is it in your repositories?
[06:55] <desrt> firebird619; so run fspot from a terminal
[06:55] <desrt> firebird619; see if it says anything
[06:55] <KrisWood> nm I found it
[06:56] <derekgiles> because i have that arleady on my windows that im using now its named D with all my back up files you cant write to it its so If i get a virus I have that to start over for my back up
[06:57] <derekgiles> so i was wanderign to make sure that that was like the same thing
[06:57] <desrt> derekgiles; generally speaking, having backups on the same computer as the original isn't good for protecting yourself from a virus
[06:58] <dbernar1> derekgiles: if you have a partition D that is not used for anything, and is big enough for you to use Ubuntu on, yes, install on that partition.
[06:58] <desrt> derekgiles; it's sort of like making a new drive letter... but not really the same
[06:58] <dbernar1> desrt: he is good to do anything.
[06:58] <desrt> like, you won't see a new drive letter in windows
[06:58] <dbernar1> I mean, having a separate data/windows partition is very good.
[06:58] <desrt> and you won't see any drive letters at all in ubuntu
[06:58] <dbernar1> viruses dont affect data, only programs.
[06:59] <dbernar1> and such
[06:59] <dbernar1> just to let you know about the such
[06:59] <gandii> hi
[07:00] <dbernar1> I also today installed dynDNS, so I have a domain now. w00t, it is very simple, and there is a daemon program that runs and updates your IP whenever it changes, very cool stuff.
[07:00] <firebird619> desrt: It says:
[07:00] <tritium> :
[07:00] <firebird619> ** (/usr/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe:17147): WARNING **: The following assembly refere nced from /usr/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe could not be loaded:
[07:00] <firebird619>      Assembly:   gnome-sharp    (assemblyref_index=7)
[07:00] <firebird619>      Version:    1.0.0.0
[07:00] <firebird619>      Public Key: 35e10195dab3c99f
[07:00] <firebird619> The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MO NO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/usr /lib/f-spot).
[07:00] <tritium> :)
[07:00] <firebird619> ** (/usr/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe:17147): WARNING **: The class Gnome.Program could  not be loaded, used in /usr/lib/f-spot/f-spot.exe (token 0x0100012e)
[07:00] <firebird619> Unhandled Exception: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
[07:00] <desrt> firebird619; ok.  that's useful info
[07:00] <desrt> firebird619; is libgnome-cil installed?
[07:00] <hyphenated> firebird619: it's quite rude to paste that much
[07:00] <gandii> yea
[07:00] <dbernar1> firebird, please use http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl, or #flood for pasteing more than 3 lines of text
[07:00] <firebird619> hyphenated: sorry
[07:01] <IIIEars> If you still use windows. - setting up limited rights bon-admin accts to surf is a very good idea.
[07:01] <dbernar1> firebird619 even
[07:01] <IIIEars> erm "non-admin"
[07:01] <dbernar1> ya, hassle, windows, boring...:)
[07:01] <firebird619> desrt: no, it is not installed. I am assuming I need to install it
[07:01] <derekgiles> ight thanks again
[07:02] <desrt> firebird619; ya.  give that a try
[07:02] <derekgiles> 15 minutes left of download
[07:02] <desrt> firebird619; the package should have installed it automatically.  don't know why it didn't.
[07:02] <dbernar1> I think I am ready to Eat Fresh (tm) at a local Subways...
[07:02] <desrt> firebird619; you using backports by any chance?
[07:02] <IIIEars> I agree - windows is not 'net safe. - games only until it is ported to linux. - grin
[07:02] <derekgiles> linux is like the safest operation system isnt it?
[07:03] <dbernar1> Subway - Eat Fresh, another oximoron...
[07:03] <wienerb0x> damn it, why does XMMS sound so much better than BMP :(
[07:03] <firebird619> desrt: I have a backport repository but it never seems to work. Should I delete it?
[07:03] <desrt> derekgiles; leaving your computer turned off is safest :)
[07:03] <robotgeek> !hemlock
[07:03] <ubotu> robotgeek: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:03] <desrt> derekgiles; but linux is a lot more safe than windows, these days :)
[07:03] <robotgeek> !info hemlock
[07:03] <IIIEars> derekgiles - there are a lot fewer exploits out for it. - draw your own conclusions.
[07:03] <desrt> firebird619; well, if it doesn't work, then ya :)
[07:03] <desrt> firebird619; it's because backports switched to mandatory mirror use
[07:03] <derekgiles> more people use windows because linux system are more complicated but easy once you get used to them
[07:03] <desrt> firebird619; you have to use one of their mirror servers now if you want access
[07:04] <derekgiles> my friend had red had 9 before
[07:04] <derekgiles> and i was like whoa
[07:04] <dkoh2> how do you uninstall a compiled program... like when you make it
[07:04] <derekgiles> i  understood it but yea
[07:04] <desrt> dkoh2; make uninstall
[07:04] <dkoh2> oh haha thanks
[07:04] <desrt> dkoh2; in the directory that you typed "make install" in
[07:04] <desrt> or "sudo make uninstall" i suppose
[07:04] <IIIEars> derekgiles - no OS is really safe. - no execute bit in next gen of chips should slow  hackersdown some
[07:05] <desrt> 'next gen'
[07:05] <desrt> pfft
[07:05] <dkoh2> what about emptying the recycling bin?
[07:05] <vdrab> hello #Ubuntu ! I have this weird problem with gnome / X, it just randomly closes windows on me all the time.... no crashing, no reboots, just disappearing windows.... anyone have a clue on what may be going on? much appreciated.
[07:05] <firebird619> desrt: Yes, it makes sense to delete it beings it doesn't work but I thought it maybe would start working again. Those files are downloading. I will let you know when they are done installing and I will see if it works.
[07:05] <desrt> firebird619; i sure hope it does :P
[07:06] <dbernar1> vdrab: weird...try creating a new user, to see if it happens to him too.
[07:06] <dbernar1> lol@nilson
[07:06] <JDahl> dbernar1, have you made a nautilus ssh connection to a remote server? It only seems to work with localhost for me
[07:06] <vdrab> could it be a graphics card problem? i think not, but....
[07:06] <dbernar1> JDahl: doesnt work at all, for some reason...
[07:07] <IIIEars> << - makes online purchases with a bootable CD or better over the phone. (Is that paranoia or what? - rofl)
[07:08] <nickrud> vdrab, can you expand on that; for example, do you have to restart the programs?
[07:08] <desrt> uh
[07:08] <JDahl> dbernar1, I dont really need it - just thought it'd be a nice alternative to scp
[07:08] <derekgiles> 10 minutes left of the download
[07:08] <dkoh2> is it possible to use a windows xp shared hp printer with ubuntu?
[07:08] <derekgiles> dkoh2 yes
[07:08] <derekgiles> I already asked LOL
[07:08] <derekgiles> :-D
[07:08] <dbernar1> JDahl: ya, it would.
[07:08] <vdrab> nickrud: yeah, firefox, synaptic, anything.... they just close, so i have to reopen
[07:08] <derekgiles> desrt answered me
[07:08] <desrt> IIIEars; credit card security over the net is probably somewhat better than giving your card to a human over the phone
[07:08] <dkoh2> derekgiles: how do I do that?
[07:08] <Internat> derekgiles is it easy to set up? cause i just realised i have to do that as well
[07:09] <Internat> actually mines a network printer..
[07:09] <desrt> dkoh2; samba
[07:09] <nJess> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/688 <--i had to do that, it was rather amusing
[07:09] <derekgiles> you want samba
[07:09] <derekgiles> you can install it with the package manager
[07:09] <dkoh2> okay
[07:09] <nickrud> vdrab, weird. when you say reopen, does that mean starting the programs from the menu?
[07:09] <desrt> derekgiles; :)
[07:09] <vdrab> nickrud: yes, that's right.
[07:10] <derekgiles> and samba desert  it's a program for letting linux computers function in groups of windows computers file and print sharing stuff, basically
[07:10] <dbernar1> laters.
[07:10] <dbernar1> laters...
[07:10] <desrt> woh
[07:10] <desrt> derekgiles; extreme delayed-action echo effect :)
[07:10] <dkoh2> awesome so apt-get samba desert
[07:10] <desrt> no
[07:10] <desrt> desrt is me :)
[07:10] <desrt> i'm not installable with apt
[07:10] <bimberi> lol
[07:10] <dkoh2> oh
[07:10] <nickrud> vdrab, that is extremely weird to me :)
[07:10] <dkoh2> sorry
[07:10] <desrt> sudo apt-get install samba
[07:11] <derekgiles> hah desrt I did pretty good at copying your words huh
[07:11] <desrt> derekgiles; :)
[07:11] <PurpleBlu> If I want to install some themes for my KDE desktop can I do that through Synaptic Packet Manager?  I think I need SuperKaramba them some themes.  IS this correct, can I do that?
[07:11] <orborde> How do I check/change my screen resolution?
[07:11] <PurpleBlu> want some nice eye candy, you know what I mean.
[07:11] <bimberi> nJess: it was indeed! :)
[07:12] <vdrab> nickrud: see, it just friggin' closed Xchat on me....
[07:12] <TokenBad> if someone has a ftp up and its SSL..how do you ftp into it..or what is command to ftp into it since uses ssl?
[07:12] <bimberi> orborde: system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[07:12] <derekgiles> does ne one here like rap music?
[07:12] <derekgiles> besides me
[07:12] <TokenBad> not me
[07:12] <bimberi> nope
[07:12] <desrt> derekgiles; ubuntu will crash if you try and play any rap music on it
[07:12] <desrt> derekgiles; just advanced warning there
[07:12] <IIIEars> Sinatra and Clooney. - lol
[07:13] <aru> desrt: nice :)
[07:13] <rommer> desrt; i've tried it doesn't, only crashes to classical and country
[07:13] <Ghetek> how do i make a user called "www" and give it access to my apache-served webpage?
[07:13] <firebird619> desrt: That solved   the problem. Thanks for the help.
[07:13] <desrt> dude
[07:13] <desrt> country!!!
[07:13] <nickrud> vdrab, this is something you may want to take up on a mailling list: user, or devel. I think I can reasonably promise you that you'll get more help there
[07:13] <desrt> firebird619; awesome :)
[07:13] <helpmepls> hey
[07:13] <aru> desrt: hank3 ;)
[07:13] <helpmepls> where is the girl
[07:13] <TokenBad> anyone?
[07:14] <vdrab> sweet. any concrete pointers? can i find it from the ubuntu forums?
[07:14] <derekgiles> damn ima go for awhile its done downloading time to burn it heh
[07:15] <nickrud> vdrab, yes, those lists can ge gotten to from the forums; I 'd suggest using pan and pointing it at gmane.org
[07:19] <Ghetek> how do i make a user from command line?
[07:20] <bimberi_> Ghetek: sudo adduser
[07:20] <helpmepls> guys
[07:20] <helpmepls> how to add user with expired
[07:20] <helpmepls> example user joe with exppired desember
[07:20] <helpmepls> 1 desember
[07:22] <dkoh2> so I got samba installed, what do I do next to print to an xp computer?
[07:22] <TokenBad> if someone has a ftp up and its SSL..how do you ftp into it..or what is command to ftp into it since uses ssl?
[07:22] <PurpleBlu> okay, I downlaoded a source file.  I did the ./configure command from console, what is my next step?
[07:23] <CarlFK> is there a pastebot I can apt-get install?
[07:23] <rommer> do u need an even number of computers to make a cluster?
[07:23] <CarlFK> no.
[07:23] <dgimusique> i need help... lots of it... WHAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH UBUNTU???? i tried installing RPM's Debians, i tried too many thing I AM LOST!!! i'm also pretty new to linux.... i'm trying to follow the information on websites and such to install my programs... NOTHING WORKS!!! i'm freaking out!!!
[07:23] <reka> PurpleBlu: what are you trying to install?
[07:23] <PurpleBlu> SupeKaramba
[07:23] <PurpleBlu> i think I need to make it or something
[07:23] <helpmepls> guy's help me
[07:24] <CarlFK> first un-install samba - you don't need it
[07:24] <nickrud> dgimusique, there's a simple rule for using ubuntu: only use packages from ubuntu repositories
[07:24] <reka> PurpleBlu: er, it's in the repo it seems
[07:24] <PurpleBlu> ohh really, where I go?
[07:24] <aru> PurpleBlu: System > Administration > Synaptic  then search for superkaramba
[07:24] <dgimusique> nickrud : where's that?
[07:24] <reka> PurpleBlu: sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[07:24] <bimberi_> dkoh2: system -> administration -> printing; New Printer; Network Printer; Windows (SMB)
[07:24] <wynseb001> hello
[07:24] <reka> PurpleBlu: always check the repo first....compiling from source is the "harder" way of doing things
[07:24] <aru> or use the console, either way
[07:25] <nickrud> dgimusique, the 25 word or less version, is use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 as the text in /etc/apt/source.list
[07:25] <aru> I like my linux gooey
[07:26] <nickrud> gak
[07:26] <nickrud> dgimusique, the 25 word or less version, is use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 as the text in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:26] <dgimusique> thanks
[07:26] <bruce_> join #lisp
[07:26] <helpmepls> doh
[07:26] <CarlFK> there is a #lisp?
[07:26] <reka> nickrud: hehe..that's not like you. :)
[07:26] <nickrud> doh, doh, cut and paste please :)
[07:26] <CarlFK> wow... what about #forth...
[07:27] <helpmepls> #lisp is homo chan
[07:27] <helpmepls> :)
[07:27] <CarlFK> wow!  25 users in #forth
[07:27] <reka> helpmepls: easy now...
[07:27] <helpmepls> not yet reka
[07:28] <helpmepls> i'll do tomorrow morning
[07:28] <JDahl> CarlFK, is that the hyped future Fortran killer by Sun et al.?
[07:28] <helpmepls> reka do you know how to adduser with expired i mean exam user joe with expired 30 des
[07:28] <helpmepls> from now
[07:29] <reka> helpmepls: no
[07:29] <helpmepls> doh
[07:29] <helpmepls> i wanna rent my shell
[07:30] <TokenBad> anyone know how to ftp into a ftp that requires SSL for auth?
[07:30] <ubuntudriftfast1> anyone here?
[07:31] <ubuntudriftfast1> im a newb to ubuntu, bare with me
[07:31] <ubuntudriftfast1> first linux distro
[07:31] <bimberi_> TokenBad: sftp didn't work? (my modem dropped out just after i typed it)
[07:31] <dgimusique> nickrud : i don'T get it... there is no softwares in what you just showed me
[07:31] <TokenBad> let me check
[07:31] <looser> dgimusique apt-cache search
[07:32] <dgimusique> apt-cache search?
[07:32] <TokenBad> and i just type that in the console right?
[07:32] <ubuntudriftfast1> can anyone tell me of a good primer to get my feet wet for linux
[07:32] <ubuntudriftfast1> or should i learn a language first
[07:32] <Kosai> Hello.  I'm running a hoary install on powerpc, and I mistyped the first screeen of "set new root password".  Now, every time I go back into that menu, it prompts me to retype the password (which I don't know, because it was mistyped) correctly, and won't let me give an initial password again.
[07:32] <Kosai> Does anyone have any suggestions?
[07:32] <thechitowncubs> jn nphy
[07:32] <Ghetek> oy, i got a webserver question. just decided to come here b/c not getting too much of an answer at apache (but i am on ubuntu). i get a 403 error when trying to access my web page. i know it has something to do with permissions. i dont have x or a window manager.
[07:32] <reka> ubuntudriftfast1: tlpd.org
[07:33] <thechitowncubs> Ghetek: why do you need a window manager?
[07:33] <reka> tldp.org rather
[07:33] <ubuntudriftfast1> thanks
[07:33] <looser> !rescue
[07:33] <ubotu> [rescue]  Boot the install cd with rescue as boot parameter for system rescue mode
[07:33] <ubuntudriftfast1> what do i do for your name to be highlighted?
[07:33] <looser> Ghetek go there
[07:33] <otep> ubuntudriftfast1: or buy "running linux"
[07:33] <reka> !tell dgimusique about repositories
[07:33] <ubuntudriftfast1> is that a book?
[07:33] <otep> yup
[07:33] <Ghetek> thechitowncubs: go where?
[07:33] <tzuqris> alright guys
[07:33] <otep> from o'reilly and associates
[07:34] <dgimusique> thx reka
[07:34] <Ghetek> looser: go where?
[07:34] <thechitowncubs> Ghetek: where did you put the index.html file?
[07:34] <reka> ubuntudriftfast1: if you type someone's name in your post, it will be highlighted for them
[07:34] <looser> !rescue
[07:34] <ubotu> I guess rescue is Boot the install cd with rescue as boot parameter for system rescue mode
[07:34] <tzuqris> i've come back
[07:34] <ubuntudriftfast1> reka that do it?
[07:34] <bimberi_> ubuntudriftfast1: another place: http://tuxfiles.org/
[07:34] <Ghetek> thechitowncubs: its in /var/www/
[07:34] <reka> ubuntudriftfast1: yep :)
[07:34] <Kosai> The rescue quote was for me?
[07:34] <ubuntudriftfast1> cool, thanks
[07:34] <thechitowncubs> is that where you told apache to look?
[07:34] <tzuqris> i want to get these sound issues solved
[07:34] <tzuqris> http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[07:34] <thechitowncubs> Ghetek: man chmod if you need to learn about permissions
[07:35] <Ghetek> thechitowncubs: yeah
[07:35] <ubuntudriftfast1> i had microsoft, so is there anything like cmd prompt on ubuntu, or do I just write the code as needed?
[07:35] <Ghetek> thechitowncubs: its a user/permissions problem
[07:35] <thechitowncubs> man chown
[07:35] <thechitowncubs> man chmod
[07:35] <tzuqris> that is a link that i tried
[07:35] <reka> ubuntudriftfast1: apps > sys tools > terminal
[07:35] <otep> ubuntudriftfast1: the terminal
[07:35] <looser> guy's brb i wanna to piss
[07:35] <reka> ubuntudriftfast1: read this while you're at it
[07:36] <Ghetek> thechitowncubs: yeah i looked at those and sis what apache said i made a user called www and i used chown and gave www access to the folder
[07:36] <reka> !tell ubuntudriftfast1 about rootsudo
[07:36] <Ghetek> but the outside world cant see it
[07:36] <tzuqris> and i tried this for my sound http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567
[07:36] <tzuqris> anybody got anything for me?
[07:36] <ubuntudriftfast1> reka,otep the terminal. Thanks. it should make it alittle easier now
[07:36] <TokenBad> is there an apt-get for bsdftpd?
[07:36] <Ghetek> TokenBad: apt-cache search
[07:36] <TokenBad> I did that
[07:36] <TokenBad> returned no responce at all
[07:36] <ubuntudriftfast1> reka thanks I got to go study
[07:37] <otep> ubuntudriftfast1: go to http://tuxfiles.org/ as suggested by bimberi, click "command line" on the left
[07:37] <reka> tzuqris: there aren't many sound gurus in here....but crimsun is who you want to get a hold of. keep dropping by until he's active
[07:37] <Ghetek> TokenBad: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search bsdftpd
[07:37] <tzuqris> reka: got maybe a time frame of when that usually is?
[07:38] <reka> Kosai: not really.  are you sure it's the root password you mistyped?  b/c by default you enter *your* password to do priveliged actions
[07:38] <reka> tzuqris: try every two hrs if you can
[07:38] <PurpleBlu> reka - searched for superkaramba in Synaptic Packet Manger, nothing.
[07:38] <ubuntudriftfast1> thanks everyone
[07:38] <Mechcozmo> alright... i'm installing ubuntu
[07:38] <reka> tzuqris: i'm not in the US so it's tough for me to pinpoint his times
[07:38] <Mechcozmo> and its complaining about something
[07:38] <tzuqris> problem is...i have a pretty short time frame
[07:39] <Kosai> reka: It's the installer.  No-one *has* a password yet.
[07:39] <reka> PurpleBlu: it's in universe
[07:39] <Mechcozmo> i'm trying to install it onto partition #6
[07:39] <Mechcozmo> which is a real partition
[07:39] <TokenBad> I still don't find it
[07:39] <reka> !tell PurpleBlu about repositories
[07:39] <tzuqris> i will try a couple more things with this then
[07:39] <Fidelio> can anybody please explain to me how to specify the dhcp server in ubuntu?
[07:39] <Mechcozmo> (only four of them, #1,5,6,7)
[07:39] <dgimusique> here is what happens when i try to open the synaptic : Child terminated with 1 status... it won't open
[07:39] <Mechcozmo> i can't even get that far
[07:39] <Fidelio> ie : how to connect to a specific DHCP server
[07:40] <reka> Kosai: the installer?  you're supposed to *set* your password there, it's not supposed to stop you if you get it wrong.
[07:40] <reka> dgimusique: you sure you don't have a session open already?
[07:40] <Mechcozmo> the installer won't go that far!
[07:41] <Mechcozmo> i'm trying to partition
[07:41] <Mechcozmo> and its being a rather large PITA
[07:41] <PurpleBlu> universe?  talking about the section in Synaptic Packet Manger?  cause there is no section called that.  And yes please tell me about REPOS, cause I aint see it in Synaptic, and I even searched too.
[07:41] <Mechcozmo> no root filesystem or something
[07:41] <otep> !tell otep about repositories
[07:41] <dgimusique> reka where should that be?
[07:41] <otep> wow
[07:41] <tzuqris> ooh
[07:41] <reka> PurpleBlu: settings > repos
[07:41] <Kosai> reka: You set it by typing it twice.  I typed it once, making a mistake, and then it asked me to repeat.  I can't repeat it, since I don't know what I typed.  It keeps asking me to repeat it, without giving me an option of not repeating it and setting it again.
[07:41] <reka> PurpleBlu: read the wiki page i sent you
[07:42] <PurpleBlu> reka, reading now
[07:42] <otep> ubotu is a demigod...
[07:42] <ubotu> otep: Are you smoking crack?
[07:42] <reka> dgimusique: you probably have an open synaptic window already
[07:42] <otep> lol
[07:42] <Fidelio> anybody?
[07:42] <Mechcozmo> anyone going to bother helping me?
[07:42] <dgimusique> reka all i have opened is this X-chat and AIM talking to my girlfriend
[07:42] <reka> Kosai: oh, i see.....imho, easier to just reboot and start again. :-/
[07:42] <Mechcozmo> what the hell is the root file system, how do i define it, and how do i correct it?
[07:43] <tzuqris> lol
[07:43] <TokenBad> if console based ftp
[07:43] <TokenBad> how get it to download a full dir?
[07:43] <reka> Kosai: afaik, it's going to be *really* tough to be able to get the password at that stage.
[07:43] <TokenBad> I tried get dirname
[07:43] <TokenBad> and it says its not a file
[07:43] <dgimusique> Whoever plays as root... ends up fucking a tree
[07:44] <Seveas> TokenBad, try mc (midnight commander) for console based ftp :)
[07:44] <MrGardenHoseMan> gues how do i set up a connection over pppoe
[07:44] <MrGardenHoseMan> -gues
[07:44] <TokenBad> I am haaving to use ftp-sll
[07:44] <Seveas> MrGardenHoseMan, pppoeconf
[07:44] <TokenBad> shoot
[07:44] <TokenBad> ftp-ssl
[07:44] <TokenBad> even
[07:44] <MrGardenHoseMan> it's starting to drive me mad
[07:44] <MrGardenHoseMan> THANK YOU!
[07:44] <MrGardenHoseMan> lets take a stab at it
[07:45] <Fidelio> does anybody in here have experience with DHCP in Hoary?
[07:45] <Seveas> Fidelio, yes
[07:45] <Seveas> both server and client
[07:46] <TokenBad> Seveas, in a ssl based ftp..how get a full dir..get don't work
[07:46] <TokenBad> and the mc you gave didn't work
[07:46] <Fidelio> Seveas : I am trying to connect to a Broadband Router which acts as my DHCP server from Hoary
[07:46] <Fidelio> but I'm not getting lucky
[07:47] <supernix> hiya gang
[07:47] <supernix> I am using Kubuntu and I was wonder what the best way would be to add the fonts from my windows system to Linux
[07:47] <Ghetek> sigh
[07:47] <Seveas> Fidelio, what does killall dhclient3 && dhclient3 eth0 (or whichever your card is) say?
[07:47] <dgimusique> ok i'm trying to open the Synaptic manager thing... and IT IS NOT already running, i even tried restarting... it'S telling me the same thing it did a while ago :(
[07:47] <bimberi> TokenBad: mget transfers multiple files (but not directories)
[07:47] <otep> !tell otep fonts
[07:47] <Seveas> TokenBad, ah, mc cannot handle sftp, sorry
[07:48] <TokenBad> then how get full dirs?
[07:48] <PurpleBlu> reka, when adding universe repositories, doI  just want to add binaries or source to?
[07:48] <Discipulus> alright, what's the difference between a hard link and a symlink?
[07:48] <Fidelio> Seveas, both router and ethernet are on wireless...so mine is on wlan0
[07:48] <reka> PurpleBlu: both
[07:49] <reka> dgimusique: ok, full error again please?
[07:49] <Seveas> Fidelio, ahhhh, wireless
[07:49] <Seveas> Fidelio, with encryption?
[07:50] <Fidelio> Seveas, nope...but I have a card that according to ubuntu is well supported in Hoary
[07:50] <PurpleBlu> ohh yes, superkaramba here I come
[07:50] <PurpleBlu> I am loving this
[07:50] <PurpleBlu> easy
[07:50] <PurpleBlu> wow
[07:50] <dgimusique> well i have it installed in french... Echec lors du lancement de /usr/sbin/synaptic : Child terminated with 1 status
[07:50] <Thewarmachine> im nervous about tomorrow
[07:50] <Seveas> Fidelio, what does iwconfig wlan0 say (output on pastebin please)
[07:50] <Seveas> dgimusique, try sudo synaptic in a terminal
[07:51] <Fidelio> Seveas, you'll have to give me a sec for that
[07:51] <Seveas> you might be able to see a better error description then
[07:51] <Seveas> Fidelio, ok
[07:51] <mebaran151> how do I manually mount a usb pendrive from cli
[07:51] <Thewarmachine> how would I go about making my webcam work
[07:51] <Thewarmachine> ?
[07:51] <Seveas> mebaran151, pmount /dev/sda
[07:51] <reka> dgimusique: ok, and you entered *your* password?
[07:51] <dgimusique> yes
[07:51] <Seveas> replace sda by the correct drive
[07:51] <mebaran151> Seveas, what is the correct drive
[07:51] <mebaran151> taht is my question
[07:51] <dgimusique> dgimusique is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported
[07:51] <Seveas> mebaran151, ghe :)
[07:51] <mebaran151> how are usb devices classifed
[07:51] <PurpleBlu> reka, now when I download theme for superkaramba I dont do it through Synaptic do i?
[07:52] <mebaran151> are tehy scsi's?
[07:52] <Seveas> mebaran151, as /dev/sd*something*
[07:52] <Seveas> but usually they are automounted
[07:52] <Seveas> if not: consult dmesg to see the scsi position of the drive
[07:52] <Thewarmachine> anyone have ideas????????????????????????????????
[07:52] <reka> PurpleBlu: not sure....check if there are themes in the repos....if not, then yes, need to do it some other way
[07:53] <reka> dgimusique: ah, there you go
[07:53] <aru> mebaran151: System > Administration > Device Manager | and see if it's listed
[07:53] <reka> !tell dgimusique about rootsudo
[07:53] <reka> dgimusique: i think you need to add yourself to the sudoers file
[07:53] <reka> dgimusique: read the wiki page i sent you
[07:54] <Thewarmachine> does anyone know?
[07:54] <PurpleBlu> yep, didnt find liquid weather
[07:54] <aru> Thewarmachine: what kind of camera?
[07:54] <mebaran151> aru, eh I dont have a gui
[07:54] <mebaran151> I have a server only install
[07:54] <mebaran151> and I neecdd to do it the old fashioned way from the cli
[07:55] <Thewarmachine> logitech quickcam express
[07:55] <aru> mebaran151: sorry for your luck :)
[07:55] <aru> Thewarmachine: USB?
[07:55] <Thewarmachine>  yes
[07:55] <PurpleBlu> reka, what desktop you use? Gnome, Kde? what?
[07:55] <reka> PurpleBlu: gnome
[07:55] <PurpleBlu> no KDE?
[07:55] <mebaran151> aru, so what do they normally classify usb drives as
[07:55] <reka> PurpleBlu: which is why i have't had experience with superkaramba
[07:55] <mebaran151> ada had or /dev/usb/something
[07:55] <reka> PurpleBlu: i prefer gnome
[07:56] <Seveas> jay for flaky freenode :(
[07:56] <Seveas> Thewarmachine, you need quickcam modules for the kernel
[07:56] <Seveas> Thewarmachine, it's a PITA, never got it to work myself
[07:56] <PurpleBlu> ohh really, even for eye candy?
[07:56] <mebaran151> sda hda or /dev/usb/x
[07:56] <reka> PurpleBlu: there's #kubuntu and #kde if you didn't know
[07:56] <Thewarmachine> damn
[07:56] <reka> PurpleBlu: i like a minimalist desktop
[07:56] <Fidelio> how do I get to pastebin?
[07:56] <Thewarmachine> any idea how  would go about it?
[07:56] <Seveas> reka, fluxbox? :)
[07:56] <Thewarmachine> xfce4?
[07:56] <Seveas> Fidelio, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:56] <dgimusique> reka i can't even add a new user it gives me the same error... looks like i have an account problem in here :S
[07:56] <reka> Seveas: i'm too used to gnome's shortcuts/quirks :)
[07:57] <Seveas> dgimusique, shat does sudo synaptic say?
[07:57] <Seveas> (ina terminal)
[07:57] <dgimusique> dgimusique is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported
[07:57] <reka> dgimusique: well, i'm pretty certain that's what you need to do....do it with a user who already has sudo privileges.
[07:57] <Thewarmachine> seveas any idea where I could acquire that
[07:57] <Thewarmachine> >
[07:57] <dgimusique> i only have ONE user account in my ubuntu installation...
[07:58] <dgimusique> and it's this one
[07:58] <dgimusique> lol
[07:58] <reka> oh. :)
[07:58] <dgimusique> i set a root password...
[07:58] <Glendos> Can someone recommend a "WORKING" free dvd/cd recording program for gnome?? Nautilus has problems burning my data DVDs, Graveman sort of works except it gives growisofs errors, Gnomebaker 3.3 works fine except I can't Name my cds, Gnomebaker 0.4 Segfaults when I start burning.. and K3b needs crap load of QT libraries, and finally Nero Linux demo works but its not free and not opensource..
[07:58] <aru> mebaran151: mine says /dev/sda
[07:58] <dgimusique> but i have no clue how logon to it...
[07:58] <ubuntudriftfast1> tuxflies.org doesnt work
[07:58] <Seveas> Thewarmachine, from synaptic :)
[07:59] <reka> dgimusique: doesn't the wik tell you?
[07:59] <Thewarmachine> what packages?
[07:59] <Thewarmachine> and sorry for the pesterance
[07:59] <reka> *wiki
[07:59] <mebaran151> aru, it is a scsi device
[07:59] <mebaran151> nicety
[07:59] <aru> Glendos: I use graveman with no problems, what is it you burn that gives you errors?
[07:59] <ubuntudriftfast1> reka the link tuxflies doesnt work, i even typed url in firefox. is that right?
[08:00] <aru> mebaran151: thats what it says, but its USB
[08:00] <Glendos> aru, simple data DVD .. :(
[08:00] <Seveas> Thewarmachine, in private (too big to paste in here)
[08:00] <reka> ubuntudriftfast1: google
[08:00] <aru> Glendos: weird
[08:00] <mebaran151> aru, weird devices often work that way
[08:00] <Glendos> once it finishes it says some crap about growisofs
[08:00] <TokenBad> so anyone know how to get ftp-ssl to get full dir?
[08:00] <Glendos> but it seems to burn correctly though... the files seem to be there and load
[08:00] <mebaran151> because Linux has a pretty robust scsi interface
[08:00] <ubuntudriftfast1> gotcha, does a live cd, have all the same things as the standard ver.
[08:01] <Glendos> I was just hoping that all this grand opern source projects actually had one decent working burning program
[08:01] <rom> has anyone here tried to make a linux cluster using ubuntu?
[08:01] <reka> Glendos: 2 things that might  be relevant [1]  enabled DMA? [2]  tried a slower write speed?
[08:01] <ubuntudriftfast1> reka does live cd the exact same as real ver.?
[08:01] <robotgeek> ubuntudriftfast1: yup
[08:02] <Glendos> reka, good point, I have DMA enabled , umask on, 32-bit IO
[08:02] <ubuntudriftfast1> alright, it just seemed like the about in terminal didnt do what someone said
[08:02] <Glendos> reka, I'm trying to burn 8x dvds at 4x to be safe
[08:02] <IIIEars> Glendos - Then you have tried k3b and gnomebaker? - pretty sure there are others nero is linux also
[08:02] <Glendos> and still the same problem
[08:02] <dgimusique> reka yup and everytime i try any of the commands in there i get the same thing : dgimusique is not in the sudoers file.
[08:02] <ubuntudriftfast1> reka thanks again
[08:02] <Glendos> IIIEars, refer to my long paragraph above :)
[08:03] <IIIEars> Glendos if you have Nero - sign in to their site and pick up the linux vers.
[08:03] <Razor-X> hey
[08:03] <reka> dgimusique: weird....if you're the only user, you should be able to sudo
[08:03] <anacron> what's the suggested way to make linux run internet radio?
[08:03] <Razor-X> anacron: there's no real ``suggested'' way
[08:03] <Harold> anacron:  Why not go with podcasting?
[08:03] <Razor-X> I prefer VLC meself, because I generally listen to Shoutcast streams
[08:03] <dgimusique> reka i even tried logging out and loggin back in
[08:04] <Razor-X> Harold: because we all don't have iPods? ;)
[08:04] <Glendos> IIIEars, I was hopiong to rely on the free opensource things available before downloading a GTK 1.x app that's closed source
[08:04] <reka> IIIEars: <Glendos> "...and finally Nero Linux demo works but its not free and not opensource.."
[08:04] <Harold> Razor-X: Who needs an iPod?  I listen to podcasts on an iRiver.
[08:04] <Harold> Razor-X: Or simply on my PC/Mac.
[08:04] <redtech> i dont suppose there is any way to run a .net app in ubuntu?
[08:05] <IIIEars> I agree open source does what i need it to do.
[08:05] <Harold> Razor-X: "Podcast" is just a term.
[08:05] <Glendos> I was going through the source code for Gnomebaker and Graveman...
[08:05] <Glendos> Gnomebaker has 10 times cleaner code
[08:05] <Glendos> 0.4 would be awesome if I could find the bug that causes the segfault
[08:05] <aru> if you a competent enough to go through the code, then you shouldn't get errors :)
[08:05] <Razor-X> s/iPod/somewhat expensive MP3 Player/
[08:06] <reka> dgimusique: ok, to double check, you did the 'adding users' step on the wiki page?
[08:06] <aru> I have never seen any linux code and I don't get any errors :)
[08:06] <IIIEars> aru - lol - you are bad.
[08:06] <bimberi> anacron: the method that comes with the basic install is Rhythmbox (Applications -> sound & Video -> Music Player )
[08:06] <aru> well it's true!
[08:06] <Harold>  Razor-X Again, you don't need an iPod to listen to podcasts.
[08:06] <hacked`> guys
[08:06] <Glendos> aru, I was going to debug it.. but it's not easy...
[08:06] <dgimusique> reka, it tells me i'm not in the sudoers file even when i try that
[08:06] <robotgeek> Razor-X: i started seeing vi replacement strings
[08:06] <Glendos> it's worse with Graveman because the code is written by french dudes
[08:06] <Glendos> and all the variable names are french etc
[08:06] <Glendos> with the comments
[08:06] <aru> Glendos: why not make a perfect cd burner with a nice gnome interface?
[08:06] <hacked`> how many gigs do i need for a basic install of ubuntu (dont need wordprocessing, etc, just some basic compilers, etc)
[08:06] <anacron> bimberi: so i can make my own radio with that?
[08:07] <Harold> Razor-X: bashpodder is a tool that provides command line downloads of podcasts.
[08:07] <hacked`> 5 gb enough ?
[08:07] <aru> hacked`: maybe 1 or 2 :)
[08:07] <Fidelio> seveas, I can't paste the code since ubuntu is on my other system...
[08:07] <reka> dgimusique: logout, then iirc, you can log in as root using the username 'root' or 'rootuser' and the root password you set
[08:07] <hacked`> k, 4 it is
[08:07] <hacked`> thx
[08:07] <reka> dgimusique: then try adding yourself
[08:07] <Glendos> aru, I am thinking of joining the gnomebaker project and help fix it up... I think enough people tried to start from scratch and left a half baked job
[08:07] <IIIEars> heh
[08:07] <reka> Glendos: hehe...pun
[08:07] <desrt> Glendos; work on serpentine instead
[08:07] <Fidelio> but the output gives me almost all the details of the wlan0 card
[08:07] <bimberi> anacron: not sure but I'd say it's "tune in" only
[08:07] <dgimusique> ok thanks reka i'll try that
[08:07] <aru> gnomebaker... baked... nice pun
[08:08] <Glendos> desrt, but baker does audio burning too
[08:08] <Fidelio> except for an IP Address
[08:08] <robotgeek> :q
[08:08] <desrt> Glendos; serpentine does audio
[08:08] <bimberi> anacron: ... but not broadcast
[08:08] <Glendos> reka, :)
[08:08] <desrt> Glendos; also worth improving, probably is nautilus's cd burning support
[08:09] <aru> IIIEars: I wasn't trying to be rude, I've just never seen any code :)
[08:09] <anacron> bimberi: eh, i was asking about broadcasting, sure you can listen streams almost with every player, and i think xmms is good for that
[08:09] <reka> Glendos: i assume you've googled the heck out of 'gnomebaker segfault'?
[08:09] <bimberi> anacron: yes, realise that now, my apologies
[08:10] <Glendos> reka, I have been trying to get a hold of the developers :(
[08:10] <Fidelio> seveas, you still there?
[08:10] <Glendos> reka, 0.4 came out 2-3 days ago... so not much bug reports on it yet
[08:10] <reka> Fidelio: said he'd be back in an hour
[08:10] <Fidelio> cool
[08:11] <NetEcho> Hi I have some questions about the livecd
[08:11] <reka> Glendos: so you got the one that isn't in the repo?
[08:11] <NetEcho> what desktop interface does it use?
[08:11] <Razor-X> Harold_Stdyng_C: how is podcasting?
[08:11] <NetEcho> the AMD64 version
[08:11] <Fidelio> anybody else in here have any experience with DHCP client in Hoary?
[08:11] <reka> NetEcho: gnome
[08:11] <Razor-X> (you influenced me to start learning Ruby ;)
[08:11] <NetEcho> reka what terminals are available?
[08:11] <Razor-X> oh yeah, and I know you aren't here robotgeek but...
[08:11] <Glendos> reka, yes, I compiled the new release from source... the one in the repository is missing a VERY VERY important feature. It won't allow you to name the cds you burn
[08:11] <Razor-X> does it fscking look like a vi replace string?
[08:11] <reka> NetEcho: gnome-terminal, definitely...i think xterm's there as well
[08:11] <Razor-X> no it's fscking not, fscking fsck!
[08:11] <NetEcho> good good
[08:12] <Razor-X> it's a fscking sed fscking replace string
[08:12] <Razor-X> and that's the fscking closest i'm getting to using `vi'
[08:12] <reka> Glendos: :)
[08:12] <Razor-X> ok, enough ranting
[08:12] <NetEcho> I'm doing a gentoo install from it and since Knoppix only comes in x86 I cant install the AMD64 gentoo
[08:12] <Razor-X> Windows made me do that
[08:12] <MrGardenHoseMan> anyone know the command to config the monitor
[08:12] <Razor-X> I had to troubleshoot Windows, and I came back disgruntled
[08:12] <MrGardenHoseMan> more like refresh rate really
[08:12] <reka> Glendos: does the repo version segfault too?
[08:12] <Fidelio> anybody?
[08:12] <NetEcho> and I only have Knoppix instructions but I guess it would be the same
[08:12] <Glendos> reka, I was shocked :) .. no the rep one doesn't segfault
[08:12] <NetEcho> I hope xterm is there :D
[08:12] <NetEcho> what about xchat and gaim?
[08:13] <Razor-X> NetEcho: xterm is defaulted -- I think
[08:13] <NetEcho> good good
[08:13] <Razor-X> gAIM is in Ubuntu, Kopete in the other
[08:13] <Razor-X> XChat is defaulted
[08:13] <reka> !tell MrGardenHoseMan about fixres
[08:13] <Razor-X> I prefer Eterm meself, but "To Each His Own"
[08:13] <NetEcho> in Ubuntu AMD64 livecd?
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> "twin" is an interesting terminal program as well.
[08:13] <MrGardenHoseMan> what do you mean fixres
[08:13] <Glendos> I'm trying to do a Trace see where it segfaults.... what's funny though is that when you turn on trace it doesn't segfault
[08:13] <NetEcho> I prefer command line for some stuff but xterm is pretty good
[08:13] <Glendos> but it made a coaster dvd... invalid FS or something
[08:14] <NetEcho> its been a while since I've been in a *nix environment
[08:14] <reka> MrGardenHoseMan: ubotu sent you a pm
[08:14] <Razor-X> Dr_Willis: twin is awesome
[08:14] <MrGardenHoseMan> just got it :D
[08:14] <MrGardenHoseMan> thx thx
[08:14] <Razor-X> my personally compiled Eterm has native twin support (Etwin)
[08:14] <_frank> !tell _frank about fixres
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> Razor-X,  been twiddling with it on and off for years.. but oddly - its messed up  on this box's console. :(
[08:15] <Razor-X> niiiiiice Eterm
[08:15] <Razor-X> you can see a picture of my desktop/Eterm/emacs if you people wish
[08:15] <Razor-X> they're interchangeable, in my book
[08:15] <reka> Glendos: imho, i'd just use the repo version, and use a pen/texta to label the CD. :)  sounds like the latest one isn't up to scratch.
[08:16] <IIIEars> Razor-X - stroking your eterm online is likely illegal in six states. - j/k
[08:16] <NetEcho> Razor-X I'll be sure to check Eterm out
[08:16] <dgimusique> reka, i tried everything you told me... there is no way i can login into root... it tells me i'm not allowed to login as admin at the login screen
[08:16] <Razor-X> NetEcho: do it ;)
[08:16] <Razor-X> IIIEars: hahaha
[08:16] <IIIEars> heh
[08:16] <Glendos> reka, yes but means I have made a compromise for a trivial feature !! I must find a solution instead of lowering my standards!
[08:16] <reka> ok people, how do you login as root?
[08:17] <reka> (for dgimusique )
[08:17] <aru> reka: dont! :)
[08:17] <Agrajag> reka: sudo
[08:17] <Agrajag> !sudo
[08:17] <Razor-X> it does what rxvt does, with background images and transparency all with half the resources of rxvt ;)
[08:17] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[08:17] <anacron> reka: sudo -s
[08:17] <reka> :)
[08:17] <dgimusique> i can't sudo 'Cause it says i'm not in the sudo list!
[08:17] <dgimusique> and i'm the only user!
[08:17] <reka> he gets this: 'dgimusique is not in the sudoers file' when trying to open synaptic
[08:17] <Razor-X> then edit the sudo list
[08:17] <reka> he did
[08:18] <dgimusique> i can'T open the sudo list
[08:18] <reka> oh.
[08:18] <Razor-X> dgimusique: then get a boot floppy
[08:18] <aru> did he use the right password?
[08:18] <highvoltage> you need sudo to edit the sudo list :)
[08:18] <Razor-X> and edit it from there
[08:18] <Razor-X> highvoltage: I understand that
[08:18] <dgimusique> lol my floppy drive doesn't work...
[08:18] <Razor-X> dgimusique: then take a fscking live cd
[08:18] <The_Vox> I still don't understand why some people end up not being in the sudo list when they install
[08:19] <IIIEars> dgimusique - you can always throw down with your uruly os - boot the live cd create some working dirs and edit the fscking sudoer thang
[08:19] <Razor-X> The_Vox: problems like that make sudo a tad bit unreliable
[08:19] <reka> The_Vox: i didn't realise it was a common problem
[08:19] <anacron> The_Vox: i managed to do that with server installing somehow
[08:19] <hacked`> guys, im resizing one of my windows partitions and creating a partition for linux with partition magic, but partition magic is asking me what partition type i want to set it as? unformatted, ext2, ext3 ?
[08:19] <Lone_Striker> need help; just install ubuntu, everything works great but no sound at all, no music; computer is a Compaq Presario 5280; tried configuring the sound like it says on the guide online, still don't work; any suggestions would be accepted.
[08:19] <The_Vox> reka: it's the 3rd user I've seen with that problem since I started coming here a week ago
[08:19] <reka> hacked`: what for?  install? or just for data?
[08:19] <Razor-X> hacked`: for your reference, there is no ``Linux'' partition name ;)
[08:19] <La_PaRCa> hacked`, I would go with unformatted
[08:19] <Razor-X> choose ext3
[08:20] <Razor-X> and also, make some swap space
[08:20] <Razor-X> how much RAM ya got?
[08:20] <The_Vox> Razor-X: I don't think it's a sudo problem...it's more like a corner case getting past the installer
[08:20] <aru> hacked`: format the entire thing, even the windows portion :)
[08:20] <Fidelio> anybody with some knowledge of dhcp3-client?
[08:20] <dbernar1_> and dont forget to wash your hands before eating.
[08:20] <Razor-X> The_Vox: regardless, that makes sudo unreliable
[08:20] <Trackilizer> is there a GUI that can be used to install .deb, .rpm, .tarballs???
[08:20] <anacron> what's the difference between ext2 and 3?
[08:20] <reka> The_Vox: it's the first for me.
[08:20] <Razor-X> The_Vox: by the way, you use nethack?
[08:20] <Lone_Striker> any suggestions?
[08:20] <Razor-X> anacron: ext3 is a journaled fs
[08:20] <aru> Trackilizer: what are you installing?
[08:20] <dbernar1_> get some ice for Razor-X
[08:20] <IIIEars> lol
[08:20] <dbernar1_> i say
[08:20] <The_Vox> Razor-X: it makes sudo unreliable *on ubuntu* :) sudo rocks, tho.
[08:20] <Razor-X> Trackilizer: tar -xvzf isn't _that_ hard
[08:21] <Trackilizer> i know
[08:21] <_frank> Trackilizer: synaptic does .deb
[08:21] <The_Vox> reka: I read my logs <chuckle> :)
[08:21] <Razor-X> The_Vox: i've broken into the habit of sudo'ing nowadays
[08:21] <Lone_Striker> any suggestions?
[08:21] <hacked`> i'll be installing ubuntu on that parition
[08:21] <Razor-X> I used to use su all the time, 'afore
[08:21] <Trackilizer> i wanna have a GUI to install source files
[08:21] <The_Vox> Razor-X: and no, I don't nethack...haven't done that in a long long while
[08:21] <Razor-X> I've had enough GUI for today, especially Windows GUI
[08:21] <Razor-X> The_Vox: gah!
[08:21] <reka> The_Vox: sad...i do that too. :)
[08:21] <aru> Trackilizer: did you see if there is a package with Synaptic?
[08:21] <Razor-X> I would like to know the Dvorak binds you use
[08:21] <Lone_Striker> any of you guys have problem with sounds?
[08:21] <Trackilizer> nah!
[08:21] <anacron> i thing doom-roguelike is better than nethack
[08:22] <Razor-X> aru: if you have Ark, that should do archives real well
[08:22] <aru> Lone_Striker: just loud ones
[08:22] <The_Vox> reka: hehehe
[08:22] <Razor-X> Lone_Striker: depends
[08:22] <aru> Razor-X: you are not allowed to talk to me
[08:22] <_frank> Trackilizer: I'm pretty sure that doesn't exist
[08:22] <Lone_Striker> i have got no sounds
[08:22] <Trackilizer> ubuntu is the only distro that simply "works"
[08:22] <The_Vox> Razor-X: oh! last time I played nethack was pre-dvorak :)
[08:22] <Razor-X> aru: hmmmmm?
[08:22] <Razor-X> errr, not aru
[08:22] <aru> heh
[08:22] <Razor-X> Trackilizer: try ark
[08:22] <Razor-X> The_Vox: gah!
[08:22] <Lone_Striker> any suggestions for making the sound work
[08:22] <reka> Lone_Striker: keep coming back here until crimsun shows up....he's the resident sound guru
[08:22] <Razor-X> I'm one of the few 15 year old Dvorak nethack emacs users, I think ;)
[08:22] <IIIEars> Razor-X - Fix windows? - bah, salvage the files you can and reinstall from a disk image file. - all tweaks patches updates in place.
[08:22] <Razor-X> or anywhere around that age, hah
[08:23] <The_Vox> Razor-X: hehehe
[08:23] <Razor-X> IIIEars: my dad hates Linux, and the like
[08:23] <NetEcho> Trackilizer Slackware works quite well too
[08:23] <Razor-X> NetEcho: HAHAHAHAHAHA
[08:23] <Lone_Striker> crimsun huh?? i could wait.
[08:23] <aru> Trackilizer: I would try using Synaptic and seeing if there is a package available of your mystery software
[08:23] <Lone_Striker> thanks, i could wait
[08:23] <NetEcho> Razor-X I take it you've had problems?
[08:23] <Razor-X> don't reccomend Slack to someone why needs GUI for tar files, there's a skill level needed for Slack XD
[08:23] <NetEcho> I've used Slackware since 8.1
[08:23] <Razor-X> Trackilizer: like I said, try Ark
[08:23] <Lone_Striker> is slackware good?
[08:23] <reka> Lone_Striker: you probably have to...imho, not many people in here know of fixes
[08:23] <NetEcho> it was my first distro lol
[08:23] <Razor-X> NetEcho: Slackware kicks ass, definitely
[08:24] <NetEcho> well
[08:24] <Trackilizer> okie
[08:24] <aru> NetEcho: I did slack 3 installs over a 14.4 modem
[08:24] <RichardC> hey
[08:24] <Trackilizer> ill try it
[08:24] <NetEcho> I used Redhat for 10 minutes lol
[08:24] <Razor-X> ewwww, that hat tastes funny
[08:24] <RichardC> i need to install the package xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk
[08:24] <Razor-X> ;)
[08:24] <Lone_Striker> i think i try slackware also.  i could wait for the sound guru
[08:24] <RichardC> it is from the debian repository
[08:24] <aru> we better calm down before they send us to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:24] <NetEcho> Razor-X why do you think I switched
[08:24] <Lone_Striker> thanks though guys or gals
[08:24] <hondje> hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[08:24] <hondje> Google moon rocks
[08:24] <Razor-X> NetEcho: heh
[08:24] <IIIEars> NetEcho - lucky you. - RH has always been. erm "fun"
[08:24] <NetEcho> al you really need to remember is install to MBR and startx
[08:24] <Trackilizer> where can Ark be found?
[08:24] <Razor-X> Trackilizer: it's probably in the repos
[08:24] <RichardC> does anyone know of a ubuntu deb of this package?
[08:24] <Trackilizer> will have to wait till i get home to install it anyways
[08:25] <RichardC> i need it to get full-speed in some of my games, mainly zsnes
[08:25] <aru> Trackilizer: Applications > Accessories >Archive Manager
[08:25] <Trackilizer> okike
[08:25] <ubuntudriftfast1> is it possible for the irc to be considered an securtiy threat? I doubt it , but Im fresh off a windows and am paranoid
[08:25] <Trackilizer> okie*
[08:25] <IIIEars> Ubuntu by RH would be 4 CDs Ugh!
[08:25] <Trackilizer> thanks for that
[08:25] <Trackilizer> will try as soon as i get home
[08:25] <aru> would be easier if you searched synaptic for the package
[08:25] <Razor-X> ubuntudriftfast1: of course it can, in the sense of privacy
[08:25] <Razor-X> IRC is a plain-text protocol
[08:26] <Lone_Striker> sound experts; need help; waiting for crimsum or anyone who knows about sound problem
[08:26] <Razor-X> everything you are transmitting right now, to this channel, can be sniffed and dumped with ease
[08:26] <Razor-X> ;)
[08:26] <ubuntudriftfast1> razor-x by that do you mean that everyone can see what your typing ? :)
[08:26] <reka> RichardC: mixing debian with ubuntu is a no-no, iirc
[08:26] <The_Vox> ubuntudriftfast1: like anything else, if the program has holes, it is a security problem...if the program doesn't have holes, it isn't a security problem.
[08:26] <Razor-X> it can be sniffed anywhere along the chain, as long as traffic isn't encrypted, which I don't think freenode's servers do
[08:26] <IIIEars> Razor-X - anyone can get your ip also. :/
[08:26] <RichardC> reka: that is exactly what i was thinking.  do you know of a place i can get that package for ubuntu?
[08:26] <Razor-X> ubuntudriftfast1: no, by that, I mean, if you post anything private using IRC, then someone can sniff your data stream
[08:26] <hondje> freenode does
[08:26] <Razor-X> and yeah, they can obtain your IP too
[08:26] <hondje> well, it CAN
[08:27] <ubuntudriftfast1> alright, well are daemons or services whateva there called a vuln on linux?
[08:27] <ubuntudriftfast1> is there any? Or should I just look for updates?
[08:27] <Razor-X> ubuntudriftfast1: you sound like a Windows user, for user ;)
[08:27] <Lone_Striker> sound problem; still waiting
[08:27] <Razor-X> for a second here, how many people hack Linux boxes?
[08:27] <Razor-X> Lone_Striker: what _type_ of sound problem?
[08:27] <IIIEars> If you are "Really" paranoid - grab an inexpensive shell account somwhere and proxy to IRC - O_0
[08:27] <Lone_Striker> no sound at all
[08:28] <Aegir^> So ubuntudriftfast1, who did you piss off who's out to get your server?
[08:28] <reka> RichardC: i can see a xlibmesa-dri package in the ubuntu repos, but not the one you stated.  what does it do exactly?
[08:28] <hondje> It's a bit irresponsible not to pen test yourself
[08:28] <Lone_Striker> no music, sound, etc.
[08:28] <Razor-X> IIIEars: I do that all the time
[08:28] <Razor-X> not paranoia though
[08:28] <Lone_Striker> everything works great though
[08:28] <Razor-X> IIIEars: it's called the ``Windows'' mentality
[08:28] <ubuntudriftfast1> razor-x does ubuntu have any know vulns?
[08:28] <Razor-X> ubuntudriftfast1: there are no RPC errors, sorry ;)
[08:29] <Razor-X> most known vulnerabilities are patched
[08:29] <ubuntudriftfast1> I didnt piss off anyone, what do you mean?
[08:29] <Razor-X> and also, think of this
[08:29] <Razor-X> how many people hack Linux boxes
[08:29] <hondje> a lot, Razor-X
[08:29] <IIIEars> Razor-X - Hack me a twenty five minute reinstall - no sweat. no #'s or personal info.
[08:29] <hondje> no one wants your #s or personal info
[08:29] <hondje> they want your internet connection
[08:29] <Razor-X> hondje: I mean hack the box itself
[08:29] <Lone_Striker> sound problem; still waiting
[08:30] <IIIEars> Heh - windows is a ten CD set install that takes 2+ hours to reinstall
[08:30] <ubuntudriftfast1> I always said that linux is more reliable but being open source, i figured it would be easier to get hacked
[08:30] <hondje> it's not easier to get hacked unless you're stupid
[08:30] <Madpilot> yeah, but it's so much easier to zombie an XP box, if you want to 'borrow' someone's internet connection...
[08:30] <Razor-X> ubuntudriftfast1: but, there's a key reason why hackers don't
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. i think that logic is faulty
[08:30] <highvoltage> ubuntudriftfast1: quite the oposite is true.
[08:30] <ubuntudriftfast1> IIIEars 25 min for reinstall if you do repair
[08:30] <Razor-X> because the majority of the Linux users have securer networks
[08:30] <highvoltage> it's more difficult to hack, being open source. vulnarabilities are fixed quicker.
[08:30] <Razor-X> and the majority of the users of the world _use_ Windows
[08:30] <ubuntudriftfast1> 35 min for full ntfs
[08:30] <hondje> but it's quite easy to get yourself owned pushing buttons, far easier than windows
[08:30] <highvoltage> (and found quicker)
[08:31] <RichardC> reka: im not sure, however, it fixes the same problem i am having for all debian systems.
[08:31] <Lone_Striker> still waiting; no sound problem
[08:31] <IIIEars> nah - i just fdisk and throw in the CD
[08:31] <Razor-X> hondje: it's a very effective intelligence leveller
[08:31] <hondje> per capita, linux is owned as much as windows, at least from what I've seen
[08:31] <ubuntudriftfast1> yea, im on live cd right now so if i mess anything up its all good
[08:31] <hondje> no it's not
[08:32] <Razor-X> hondje: not a chance, for the average home user, Linux is much less common
[08:32] <ubuntudriftfast1> is there a back up program that comes with linux?
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> several :P
[08:32] <hondje> Yes, but there are millions of webservers running linux, file servers, dns, etc etc
[08:32] <ubuntudriftfast1> and how do you find which programs will work on your distro
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> and many more you can download.
[08:32] <Lone_Striker> sound problem; still waiting
[08:32] <hondje> linux is quite often owned
[08:32] <IIIEars> hondje - true - if the hackers are really aiming at your machine you are done. - they hacked spreadfirefox last week a large bank 3 weeks ago. - those companies have huge security budgets
[08:32] <hondje> count the newbies coming in asking simple apache questions
[08:33] <Razor-X> exactly
[08:33] <ubuntudriftfast1> iiiears yea i did a report on the mozilla hacking
[08:33] <hondje> or people running crap like awstats on their little sites, etc
[08:33] <Razor-X> if somene's really after me, then, hell, get me ;)
[08:33] <Razor-X> I have almost nothing of worth, anyways
[08:33] <Lone_Striker> sound problem; still waiting for anyone who could help
[08:33] <ubuntudriftfast1> they said it was for spam :)
[08:33] <hondje> or even having /dev/shm mounted rw and having a webserver
[08:33] <bob2> hacking someone's desktop is harder than hacking spreadfirefox
[08:33] <bob2> since a desktop has n oservices to attack
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> go hack hotmail. :P
[08:33] <tanki> Razor-X, not good to think like that because it's not about what you have it's about the act
[08:33] <bob2> so you need to trick the user into running something themselves, or find a flaw in the kernel tcp/ip stack
[08:33] <ubuntudriftfast1> are all services on linux called daemons
[08:34] <bob2> ubuntudriftfast1: more or less
[08:34] <Razor-X> tanki: well, I like to think my network's pretty secure
[08:34] <Lone_Striker> sound problem; still waiting
[08:34] <bob2> it depends how you define "service"
[08:34] <Madpilot> deamons sounds cooler than 'services'... ;)
[08:34] <Razor-X> but if you have about 30 people looking through my stuff, making router dumps, pinging ports, etc., then I know i've lost
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> isent a daemon a specific kind of program that automaticially spawns to the background.
[08:34] <hondje> or wait for them to say 'hey, running a ftpd sounds fun!'
[08:34] <bob2> Razor-X: so don\'t run vulnerable services
[08:34] <ubuntudriftfast1> yea its just im learnin windows sever 03 etc.... plus linux on top of it all so im tryin to find similaririteis
[08:34] <Razor-X> bob2: I don't
[08:35] <tanki> Razor-X, if a box is compromised and there's nothing worth stealing, they dont just leave.. they find other uses for it, maybe use it to attack someone else
[08:35] <Razor-X> I have almost any vulnerable port stealthed
[08:35] <Razor-X> tanki: if they take my box, I yank the cord
[08:35] <hondje> 'stealthing' is pointless
[08:35] <IIIEars> Razor-X - not too sure IRC is secure - direct chat is available no?
[08:35] <tanki> Razor-X, i know i'm just speaking in general terms
[08:35] <Razor-X> there's no defense against that
[08:35] <bob2> Dr_Willis: sorta, yeah; one definition might be something that calls the daemon() function, which does that
[08:35] <bob2> Razor-X: "stealthing" gains you no security
[08:35] <Razor-X> or, I just change my IP
[08:35] <Lone_Striker> no sound problem; waiting
[08:36] <Razor-X> Lone_Striker: understand, we aren't paid
[08:36] <ubuntudriftfast1>  raxor-x will ubuntu prepare me for a field in unix , or will i need to use all the distros?
[08:36] <Razor-X> so, when you pay us, you can rant
[08:36] <IIIEars> bufferoverflows not password hacks are the weak spot.
[08:36] <Razor-X> till then shut up and wait
[08:36] <Lone_Striker> i know; just need help
[08:36] <Razor-X> Lone_Striker: no sound at all?
[08:36] <bob2> IIIEars: that still requires exposed vulnerable services
[08:36] <Lone_Striker> yeah
[08:36] <Razor-X> hmmmm
[08:36] <Razor-X> what sound card?
[08:36] <Razor-X> and also, paste the output of ps -e in pastebin
[08:37] <Lone_Striker> onboard on a Compaq Presario 5280
[08:37] <ubuntudriftfast1> IIIEars - could you write a script so whenever a buffer overflow occurs, you could counterstrike?
[08:37] <Razor-X> ouch
[08:37] <Razor-X> that's probably why
[08:37] <bob2> Lone_Striker: your last 10 lines have all been "sound problem; still waiting", which is higly ineffective
[08:37] <Razor-X> I think your sound card has real crappy linux support
[08:37] <Lone_Striker> what's effective then
[08:37] <tanki> razor, dont forget offtopic heh
[08:37] <bob2> ubuntudriftfast1: how do you detect a buffer overflow?  how do you know who was responsible?
[08:37] <tanki> must learn to multitask
[08:37] <bob2> Lone_Striker: asking your question sensibly; including details of what isn't working, what is, and what you've tried
[08:37] <Razor-X> I'm pretty crappy at ``multitasking''
[08:37] <bob2> Lone_Striker: also trying the mailing list would be a good idea
[08:38] <ubuntudriftfast1> dont know, im just learning. Maybe set a limit in the web browser
[08:38] <Razor-X> comes with those hormones I hear
[08:38] <Razor-X> told ja they're useless ;)
[08:38] <tanki> Razor-X, just odd you reply here but not there
[08:38] <Lone_Striker> i have tried configuring like the help that's on the site but still doesn't work
[08:38] <Razor-X> tanki: because, I see the little thingie in the bottom of my buffer, but don't bother to change buffers
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> reading about your card at  the "alsa" homepage - is a good start
[08:38] <ubuntudriftfast1> bob2 isnt the character limit like 255 or something like that. Maybe do an if then else statement?
[08:38] <Lone_Striker> i checked the bios and no problem
[08:38] <IIIEars> tripwire and other apps are mostly useful after the damage has been done.
[08:38] <Razor-X> ubuntudriftfast1: not all buffers have a 255 limit
[08:39] <Lone_Striker> new to linux so don't know what else to do
[08:39] <hondje> there's always grsec, pax, selinux, etc
[08:39] <ubuntudriftfast1> give or take how many?'
[08:39] <hondje> rsbac is neat
[08:39] <bob2> ubuntudriftfast1: if you could detect a buffer overflow, you'd just stop it
[08:39] <ubuntudriftfast1> I thought they did the buffer overflow once they were already in the machine, i guess i have alot more learning to do\
[08:40] <Razor-X> ubuntudriftfast1: no, you can remote buffer overflow
[08:40] <bob2> it can be used at either time
[08:40] <Razor-X> and while this is outdated, you can try and peruse through ``Smashing the stack for fun and profit'' if you know some C
[08:40] <bob2> remote buffer overflows are critical security issues, which don't happen very often
[08:40] <IIIEars> ubuntudriftfast1, - the next generation of processors have a "no execute bit" set in RAM that marks segemnts as data/executable. (64 bit)
[08:40] <bimberi> Lone_Striker: Hah - I was about to point Lone_Striker to  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=19639&postcount=8
[08:40] <bob2> er, that's unrelated to them being 64-bit
[08:41] <La_PaRCa> IIIEars, NX is dead on arrival. Its not gonna stick.
[08:41] <bob2> and I'm pretty sure other architectures have had it for years
[08:41] <ubuntudriftfast1> just a new feature that prevents the exe on buffer overflow?
[08:41] <IIIEars> not perfect still a few brand new "'sploits" out for 64 bit
[08:41] <Razor-X> also ``Buffer Overflow Demystified''
[08:41] <bob2> I think you mean "amd64" instead of 64-bit
[08:41] <Razor-X> and ``IP Spoofing Demystified''
[08:41] <bob2> which is an important, if subtle, difference
[08:41] <Razor-X> nice articles from when the internet was a free-er place
[08:41] <IIIEars> La_PaRCa, - yep - you have been reading a "heap" haven't you?
[08:41] <aleksi_> what mail server would you recommend for trying and learning purposes?
[08:42] <hondje> or use pax, tends to make overflows pointless
[08:42] <bob2> aleksi_: postfix
[08:42] <tanki> I think it was free-er because nobody would pay lots of money for slow speeds heh
[08:42] <La_PaRCa> IIIEars, oh... subtle...
[08:42] <Trackilizer> who uses ubuntu in thier job?
[08:42] <IIIEars> Subtle? - oops. - lol - not usually
[08:42] <Trackilizer> what for?
[08:43] <hondje> making pretty pictures
[08:43] <Trackilizer> lol
[08:43] <Trackilizer> lol*
[08:43] <ubuntudriftfast1> has anyone used Blade Servers
[08:43] <Trackilizer> honestly?
[08:43] <hondje> or doing various pointless things with data
[08:43] <hondje> yeah
[08:43] <Razor-X> well, nowadays, articles like that are seriously taboo
[08:43] <hondje> graphs, charts, histograms, etc
[08:43] <La_PaRCa> IIIEars, oh sorry, I dont know the proper markup for sarcasm
[08:43] <ubuntudriftfast1> is there anything that prepares you for it?
[08:43] <tanki> you have to give props to people who can sell linux to a wincentric supervisor, they're pretty hard to win over
[08:43] <Razor-X> because most people nowadays are pricks
[08:43] <rommer> i have a couple of identical computers that i am looking to turn into a cluster using ubuntu linux, anyone have an idea on how to do this
[08:43] <Trackilizer> but that isnt your job.. ist it?
[08:43] <IIIEars> heh
[08:43] <Trackilizer> is*
[08:43] <hondje> Trackilizer: yes, that's my job
[08:44] <bob2> ubuntudriftfast1: I don't think they're really that different to other machines
[08:44] <PoopinClumpin> rommer, it depends on what kind of cluster you want vs. what kind of cluster you need
[08:44] <Ghetek> where is fstab located?
[08:44] <aleksi_> know any good guide for postfix?
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> theres a great many cluster linux sites out.. and even a few cluster-linux focused disrtos.
[08:44] <Trackilizer> so you get payed for making pics?
[08:44] <Trackilizer> wtf?
[08:44] <bob2> ubuntudriftfast1: aside from being physically small
[08:44] <bob2> Ghetek: /etc/
[08:44] <La_PaRCa> I used to have a blade server... had to trash it... it kept killing all my daemons ;)
[08:44] <IIIEars> my 2 cents doesn't have any mark up value....
[08:44] <hondje> I suppose I do stupid stuff like writing memos and going to meetings, too
[08:44] <bob2> aleksi_: I hear the o'reilly book is pretty good
[08:44] <Ghetek> bob2 thanks
[08:44] <hondje> Yes, I get paid to make pictures
[08:44] <Razor-X> O' Reilly makes good books
[08:44] <tanki> but you have to admit some of microsoft's licensing does more to advocate an alternative like linux than most loyal geeks, especially for small to medium sized businesses who can't afford it
[08:44] <Razor-X> the best for Linux things, IMO
[08:44] <gijosh> Silly question here.  But, how do you delete a director.  I know rm does files...
[08:44] <La_PaRCa> IIIEars, see? Thats good humor.
[08:44] <gijosh> directory*
[08:44] <ubuntudriftfast1> bob2 will linux make the crossover to ibm easy, or is it going to be like starting from scratch?
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> rm can do that as well. :P
[08:45] <hondje> crossing over to IBM what?
[08:45] <hondje> AIX?
[08:45] <ubuntudriftfast1> yea
[08:45] <bob2> ubuntudriftfast1: how do you mean?  AIX?
[08:45] <gijosh> Dr_Willis  Well when I tried I got the message that it's a directory..
[08:45] <holycow> tanki, not only that ....
[08:45] <ubuntudriftfast1> aix
[08:45] <Trackilizer> i read this blog the other day where a guy who always used linix went to windows xp
[08:45] <holycow> ... i love the bsa organization
[08:45] <tanki> aix and xenox sitting in a tree..
[08:45] <Trackilizer> he couldnt work with it
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> or rmdir, or rm -rf
[08:45] <hondje> The fundamentals are the same
[08:45] <holycow> i wish they would do like weekly raids
[08:45] <bob2> ubuntudriftfast1: basic unix usage is pretty standard, but AIX has some of it's own quirks
[08:45] <ws009> hiiiiii
[08:45] <gijosh> Dr_Willis Thanks man
[08:45] <Trackilizer> cause he had to look for all his apps online
[08:45] <holycow> that would REALLY make open source a very attractive proposition
[08:45] <bob2> ubuntudriftfast1: if you expect to admin AIX boxes, you'll want an AIX-specific book, or an AIX person to help you
[08:45] <Trackilizer> he was used to "apt-get"
[08:46] <ubuntudriftfast1> bob2 i just want to be prepared when i get into the industry, and dont want to leave anything out
[08:46] <tanki> holycow, open source yeah but not necessarily GNU
[08:46] <Trackilizer> he left win after only 1 week
[08:46] <rommer> PoopinClumpin: i basically want to learn more about it, going to try server web pages to start off with (they r slow computers)
[08:46] <La_PaRCa> download.com cant hold a candle to universe!!!
[08:47] <ubuntudriftfast1> whats the longest a linux server has ever stayed online for ?
[08:47] <bob2> non-free software for windows, basically
[08:47] <La_PaRCa> look at the windows n00b. Let him run in the wind!
[08:47] <bob2> ubuntudriftfast1: years
[08:47] <Razor-X> ubuntudriftfast1: Linux servers have nice uptimes
[08:47] <bob2> ubuntudriftfast1: but uptime is not a useful measure of anything, except for guessing how many kernel exploits you can throw at a particular machine
[08:47] <IIIEars> ubuntulog, - no aweat - give ubuntu a try. - you will like it and have a good basic knowledge in no time. - sure beats using an unreliable windows box.
[08:47] <ubuntudriftfast1> and i can run ubuntu as server?
[08:47] <tanki> i'd be scared to have an account on a box that hasn't been rebooted in years though
[08:47] <Razor-X> BSD servers have kickass fscking uptimes ;)
[08:47] <tanki> you can't hotfix kernels
[08:47] <Trackilizer> do you guys think there ever will be a google OS
[08:47] <Trackilizer> ?
[08:47] <hondje> there already is
[08:48] <Trackilizer> there is?
[08:48] <hondje> I'm sure google has customized the hell out of their installs
[08:48] <bob2> tanki: hmm, depends
[08:48] <bob2> if it's a problem in a module, you can
[08:48] <bob2> (sometimes)
[08:48] <Razor-X> Trackilizer: I don't like the concept of ``A google world''
[08:48] <hondje> wow
[08:48] <hondje> all this software at download.com sucks
[08:48] <Razor-X> google has a nice search engine
[08:48] <Razor-X> but, I think it's move for uniformity is useless
[08:48] <Ghetek> how do i list all hard drive/partitions?
[08:48] <desrt> hondje; any of it free?
[08:48] <La_PaRCa> Razor-X, right on... Google is getting a wee bit scarringly big.
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> hondje,  lol - and its like 90% spam/ad/demoware
[08:48] <desrt> Ghetek; cat /proc/partitions
[08:49] <hondje> as in beer?
[08:49] <IIIEars> hondje - how does google do it? - geez - even image files can trip up a server and they surf everywhere.
[08:49] <desrt> hondje; as in free
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> Ghetek,  fdisk -l
[08:49] <cat> hey i have a question can i changed from sarge to ubuntu?
[08:49] <ubuntudriftfast1> bob2 at what time when your modifying a linux kernal does it become a new distro? Has anyone done it on a user level or are they all major proj.?
[08:49] <desrt> Dr_Willis; oo.  that's nice.
[08:49] <hondje> IIIEars: lots of cheap distributed clients, and tons of presearching
[08:49] <bob2> ubuntudriftfast1: differences between kernels are not huge between distros
[08:49] <hondje> they index a bizarre amount of searches in advance
[08:49] <bob2> well, they can be large, but it's not the important change
[08:50] <bob2> cat: not easily
[08:50] <tanki> bob is right as long as the distro uses a GNU kernel
[08:50] <hondje> um, the GNU kernel is Hurd
[08:50] <hondje> :)
[08:50] <bob2> hurd would make it even easier, but you can hotfix large parts of linux
[08:51] <holycow> tanki, good point on gnu, but not everything or everyone agrees with 100 % free software
[08:51] <ubuntudriftfast1> bob2 howabout throwing a good place to download codecs etc.... so i can watch vids
[08:51] <rommer> i have a couple of identical computers that i am looking to turn into a cluster using ubuntu linux, anyone have an idea on how to do this
[08:51] <holycow> tanki, i'm not so sure its a good idea that everything is gnu, as much as it is a goal to strive for
[08:51] <bob2> ubuntudriftfast1: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:51] <bob2> rommer: what do you want them to do?
[08:51] <IIIEars> Anyone see the new calition between Intel and microsoft on DRM? - techrepublic sent out an email
[08:51] <ubuntudriftfast1> bob2 Im real stoked as it is seeing how i just swtiched from a server03 with no sound. I feel like im free
[08:51] <bob2> "cluster" can mean lots of thing
[08:52] <ubuntudriftfast1> bob2 thanks
[08:52] <IIIEars> erm "coalition"
[08:52] <pef> bonjour
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> rommer,  check out the cluster linux info sites.. and a 'cluster' linux speficic disrto
[08:52] <tanki> holycow, yeah that's up for debate
[08:52] <pef> hi
[08:52] <pef> :] 
[08:52] <hondje> Imagine a beowulf cluster of them....
[08:52] <Madpilot> IIIEars: yeah, the built-in monitor-DRM cr*p? saw that...
[08:52] <ColonelKernel> is there openmosix for 2.6 kernels yet?
[08:52] <rommer> bob2: spread processes over all nodes of the cluster
[08:53] <bob2> rommer: to do what?
[08:53] <tanki> hurd is a wasteful step towards EROS/Vapour
[08:53] <bob2> do you mean mosix? LRI?
[08:53] <RichardC> i followed the steps here http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs for installing multimedia codecs, however i dont believe everything installed correctly.  from the System->preferences->multimedia systems selector, under the video tab, video 4 linux was set as the input source, but when i press test, i get the error: "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'Video for Linux (v4l)'"  Anyone know what to do?
[08:53] <RichardC> woops
[08:53] <RichardC> long post
[08:53] <bob2> tanki: no, it's a highly useful project, that a bunch of people enjoy working on
[08:53] <rommer> mosix
[08:53] <ubuntudriftfast1> bob2 and everyone else, have a good night and thanks
[08:53] <bob2> RichardC: do you know waht V4L is?
[08:53] <bob2> ubuntudriftfast1: adios
[08:53] <RichardC> bob2: nope
[08:54] <hacked`> guys, i just installed ubuntu, and it installed grub at the end, and now when my pc boots it says "grub loading stage1.5   grub loading, please wait... Error 17" and my PC just hangs there
[08:54] <RichardC> just figured that the default should work
[08:54] <RichardC> hacked`: maybe this will help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1669.html
[08:54] <Razor-X> I wish my friend had loaned me his physical book instead of his PDF :(
[08:54] <tanki> btw HURD is NOT a kernel, it's a series of server running on the Mach MicroKernel.. which means you could write up a linux server on HURD and run it like linux but dont get them confused
[08:54] <Razor-X> he spent money on the whole thing, why give me just the PDF
[08:55] <bob2> RichardC: it requires special hardware for video input
[08:55] <Razor-X> I'm a big fan of printed books
[08:55] <bob2> RichardC: if you don't have that hardware, it's unsurprising that it doesnt work ;p
[08:55] <RichardC> bob2: then why is it the default?
[08:55] <bob2> RichardC: because it's reasonable
[08:55] <Madpilot> Razor-X: yeah, they work when the comp breaks and you're trying to fix it... too bad O'Reilly stuff is so expensive, tho...
[08:55] <tanki> bob2, HURD is probably famous for its slowass development
[08:55] <hondje> usb 3-1: config 1 interface 0 altsetting 0 has 3 endpoint descriptors, different from the interface descriptor's value: 2 <-- anyone know what thatm eans?
[08:56] <RichardC> so what should the video output source be set to?
[08:56] <bob2> tanki: sure, but lots of cool things have bad reps
[08:56] <bob2> RichardC: XVideo is good, if it works
[08:56] <thechitowncubs> why doesn't linux have a way of installing software from websites?
[08:56] <RichardC> sdl and xwindows (no xv) both work
[08:56] <ColonelKernel> i love my dual boot
[08:56] <thechitowncubs> in linux its pretty hard just to go to a website and get software
[08:56] <vladuz976> hi, if i want to add another HD, how would i make ubuntu recognize it? anybody know?
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> thechitowncubs,  it does.
[08:56] <thechitowncubs> i was wondering if there is any plan to resolve these issues
[08:56] <RichardC> bob2: is XWindows (No Xv) ok?
[08:56] <tanki> bob, hurd is mostly just a political effort
[08:56] <highvoltage> thechitowncubs: apt?
[08:56] <bob2> thechitowncubs: it's trivial, but stupid
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> thechitowncubs,  thats easially done with the 'autopackage'  tool - but not everone uses it..
[08:57] <tanki> i mean, linux has a lot of stupidities. but nothing can touch hurd ingeneral incompetence.
[08:57] <thechitowncubs> i know about apt-get and everything
[08:57] <bob2> thechitowncubs: using apt is a far better way to get coherent stuff that works well together
[08:57] <thechitowncubs> i know about building from source
[08:57] <hacked`> wtf, i hate ubuntu
[08:57] <hacked`> i just installed ubuntu, and it installed grub at the end, and now when my pc boots it says "grub loading stage1.5   grub loading, please wait... Error 17" and my PC just hangs there
[08:57] <bob2> tanki: er, are you an OS designer?
[08:57] <Trackilizer> why
[08:57] <Trackilizer> ?
[08:57] <hacked`> what kind of garbage is that
[08:57] <thechitowncubs> but there isn't really an easy way to get 3rd party software that isn't in the repos
[08:57] <Trackilizer> ubuntu is great
[08:57] <bob2> hacked`: thanks for your insightful commentary
[08:57] <nicedreams> Is /dev/hdb only the primary slave or is that for the second hard drive?  Like /dev/hdc would be primary master even if it is a single drive with no other drives right?  Or am I wrong?
[08:57] <bob2> thechitowncubs: the easy way is to get it in the repositories!
[08:57] <ColonelKernel> hacked`, maybe you ought to try another distro then
[08:57] <RichardC> hacked`: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1669.html????
[08:57] <hacked`> whos the one who said earlier that ubuntu "simply works"
[08:57] <hacked`> richardc, tried, does nothing
[08:57] <hondje> I think I found two apps that aren't in the repos
[08:57] <Trackilizer> me
[08:57] <Trackilizer> i said it simply works
[08:58] <Trackilizer> it does for me
[08:58] <bob2> hacked`: so, on your particular hardware, it doesn't
[08:58] <Madpilot> thechitowncubs: if there's a .deb package available,that's usually easy to install. Opera, for example
[08:58] <RichardC> it does fror me
[08:58] <tanki> bob2, I sat down a couple years ago and hacked together a tiny microkernel over a couple of days which I was using for testing some boards, and it could do more than hurd too. and it was a piece of shit..
[08:58] <thechitowncubs> for example, firefox releases updates, the *new* ubuntu user goes to download it and then it doesn't work
[08:58] <Trackilizer> everything just works
[08:58] <bob2> tanki: then I don't think you're in a good position to comment
[08:58] <vladuz976> can anybody help and tell me how to mount my extra hard drive?
[08:58] <hondje> hurds not so bad, it can even run mplayer now hehe
[08:58] <bob2> thechitowncubs: so, they shouldn't download it fro mthere
[08:58] <hacked`> bob2, k, i already had the previous version of ubuntu installed on this same machine, so thats out the window
[08:58] <thechitowncubs> Madpilot: installing it requires going to the console which shouldn't be required of anything
[08:58] <cool_bud> cn anyone help me with es1371 sound card
[08:58] <thechitowncubs> bob2: how should one go about getting a new release of firefox?
[08:59] <bob2> thechitowncubs: by not getting it
[08:59] <Madpilot> thechitowncubs: *shrug* what can you do?
[08:59] <Dr_Willis>  thechitowncubs,   http://www.autopackage.org/downloads.html   - can let ya install stuff without all that  - but it has its own 'problems'
[08:59] <hondje> very zen, ubuntu
[08:59] <bob2> thechitowncubs: and waiting for the next release of ubuntu to come out
[08:59] <tanki> bob2, whys that? I know people who've been developing it for 11 years and it still can't stay up longer than a week
[08:59] <bob2> thechitowncubs: or by running the development version
[08:59] <Madpilot> thechitowncubs: you've been listening to Burgundavia, right? ;)
[08:59] <Trackilizer> my unbuntu cds came
[08:59] <RichardC> bob2: is XVideo (No Xv) ok?
[08:59] <Trackilizer> 5 cds
[08:59] <bob2> tanki: yes, it's been slowly developed...can your kernel run 80% of the Debian archive?
[08:59] <RichardC> wrr
[08:59] <RichardC> err
[08:59] <bob2> RichardC: it's slower, but ok
[08:59] <tanki> their idea of a buffer cache is mmap()'ing the fucking filesystem
[08:59] <Trackilizer> gave 3 away alreday
[08:59] <thechitowncubs> bob2: well i think the user should be able to do it
[08:59] <tanki> lol
[08:59] <hondje> they can do it
[09:00] <RichardC> bob2:so should i use sdl or xwindows?
[09:00] <bob2> thechitowncubs: and I'd like wings so I could fly
[09:00] <hacked`> anyways, is there any way i can not load grub on bootup, and reinstall ubuntu
[09:00] <hondje> but a new user would probably go the easy route and use synaptic
[09:00] <thechitowncubs> i just don't understand it, i have been using ubuntu and think its great for a long time
[09:00] <Burgundavia> thechitowncubs, that is why you wait for your vendor (Ubuntu) to patch
[09:00] <bob2> RichardC: doesn't really matter, I think SDL will use the exact same output method as X Windows in that case
[09:00] <gp_aaron|upstair> is there anyway I can stop Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[09:00] <gp_aaron|upstair>  'Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)'
[09:00] <gp_aaron|upstair> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[09:00] <gp_aaron|upstair> from coming up
[09:00] <gp_aaron|upstair> every time I try to install something
[09:00] <bob2> thechitowncubs: it's trivial if you want it, setup firefox to install .debs when you click on them, or use autopackage
[09:00] <Burgundavia> gp_aaron|upstair, lauch synaptic and remove the cdrom
[09:00] <thechitowncubs> I guess that makes since, but what about software that isn't in the repos and requires to be built from source
[09:00] <bob2> thechitowncubs: but it's a terrible idea, since it encourages people to install random, broken junk
[09:00] <thechitowncubs> what is the installion model for that
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> edit the apt.cources gp_aaron|upstair  and comment out the cdrom line is another way. :P first line i think.
[09:01] <hondje> 'going to websites' to get stuff is for people without package managers. If a user doesn't want to trust the pkgmanager, they should use something like slackware
[09:01] <gp_aaron|upstair> Burgundavia, it is a server install, no synaptic
[09:01] <bob2> thechitowncubs: things are in ubuntu (main) because they're tested and stable
[09:01] <thechitowncubs> bob2: i understand that
[09:01] <Burgundavia> gp_aaron|upstair, then remove it from your sources.list
[09:01] <Trackilizer> firefox doesnt want to seem to want to update
[09:01] <Burgundavia> gp_aaron|upstair, it should be the first line
[09:01] <gp_aaron|upstair> Dr_Willis, just '#' comment them out?
[09:01] <Burgundavia> Trackilizer, firefox update is disabled in Ubuntu
[09:01] <Trackilizer> why?
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> gp_aaron|upstair,  yea. thats all that the synaptic thing does  really. :P
[09:01] <Trackilizer> any reason for that?
[09:01] <Burgundavia> Trackilizer, that is the job of our security team to backport the fix
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> :P
[09:02] <hondje> Trackilizer: if you are having problems getting extensions, about:config in the location bar, look for 'vendorSub', and change the version
[09:02] <Trackilizer> if the next ubuntu rls came tommorrow would i have to reinstall the whole thing?
[09:02] <thechitowncubs> The user wants freedom, and being held down by the software available to them provided by their vendor just seems ridiculous.
[09:02] <hondje> other than that, security stuff is done by people who get paid to keep you safe
[09:03] <hondje> You're not being held down
[09:03] <hondje> You're just being asked to rtfm before doing it
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> I perfer security in my os.. vs.. ease to install any random program.
[09:03] <bob2> thechitowncubs: they have freedom
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> i can wait a week or 2 for official updates.
[09:03] <Burgundavia> thechitowncubs, you are free to break you package management system. Just don't expect support when you do
[09:03] <Madpilot> given the amount of stuff in Ubuntu repos, it's hard to describe it as "being held down", really
[09:03] <nicedreams> I have Grub installed and have 3 hard drives (windows | storage drive | ubuntu | dvd-rw).  My second hard drive which is my 'storage drive' has died and I had to remove it.  So now I have (windows | empty | ubuntu | dvd-rw).  Now since I have my storage drive disconnected I get a 'GRUB ERROR 21'.  How can I fix this?  I chroot to my /dev/hdc1 which is ubuntu through Knoppix and now what do I...
[09:03] <nicedreams> ...do?  Please help me out!
[09:04] <thechitowncubs> Alright, thanks for the disscussion everyone... I understand why a lot better now. That is all :)
[09:04] <Burgundavia> Trackilizer, Breezy will have a clear upgrade path without a reinstall or needing to download a cd (ala FC)
[09:04] <Trackilizer> cool!
[09:04] <floo> can anyone help with a usb printing problem?
[09:04] <thechitowncubs> So is everyone excited about Breezy :)?
[09:04] <hondje> I am
[09:04] <hondje> lots of neat stuff in gnome 2.12
[09:04] <Trackilizer> when is it coming?
[09:04] <bob2> thechitowncubs: if people really want it, they can configure firefox to install .debs when they click on them.  but it's a bad bad idea.
[09:04] <hondje> october
[09:04] <ColonelKernel> nicedreams, I cannot guarantee this will work, but try out "grub-install -recheck /dev/hda"
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> Im waiting for the Ubuntu site to sell stuffed animal mascots for each release....
[09:04] <gp_aaron|upstair> thanks everyone that helped me
[09:05] <thechitowncubs> bob2: is there an extension or something?
[09:05] <hacked`> i hate stuffed animals
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> hacked`,  even the "stuffed bacteria/viruses" that are getting popular? :P
[09:05] <bob2> thechitowncubs: no, you just associate .deb with "sudo dpkg -i"
[09:05] <hacked`> maybe i'll buy a ubuntu stuffed animal so i can use as a piata
[09:05] <thechitowncubs> interesting, i'd rather not do that :)
[09:05] <floo> I can't get my hp digital copier 410 usb printer to print.
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> floo,  that a hp all in one scanner/printer?
[09:06] <thechitowncubs> hondje: what is planned for gnome 2.12?
[09:06] <tanki> It's 3am, what am I doing up? All the sane americans are asleep
[09:06] <floo> it's a printer copier
[09:06] <ColonelKernel> rofl been like 2 weeks now banned in #fedora for mothing
[09:06] <thechitowncubs> tanki: its 2am here :)
[09:06] <Burgundavia> thechitowncubs, here is a rought draft --> http://live.gnome.org/ReleasesNotes2p12Items
[09:06] <floo> it's using hpijs driver but I just can't get it to print
[09:06] <floo> it's detected by the system
[09:06] <ColonelKernel> they did me a favor, now I use ubuntu
[09:06] <thechitowncubs> Burgundavia: thanks
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> floo for my hp1012v  - i had to manually start the hpdoj service i THINK...  i got rid of it a few mo ago...
[09:07] <nicedreams> ColonelKernel: It says /sbin/grub-install: line 389: /dev/null: Permission denied.    I am in Knoppix and I mounted /dev/hdc1 and then 'chroot /mnt/hdc1'   Is that all I need to do to change root to do this?
[09:07] <floo> hpdoj???
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> floo,  there was some service that set the device up and did some other twiddling.. i forget its name. :(
[09:07] <thechitowncubs> Burgundavia: I am intersted in getting involved in Ubuntu, helping out... and i know that you are part of the doc team, what do you recommend for me to look into?
[09:07] <ColonelKernel> nicedreams, I am unsure but I dont know if you have to mount it or not
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> floo may want to check the ubuntu wiki's/forums.
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> well its nap time
[09:07] <Burgundavia> thechitowncubs, if you want to join the doc team, we talk in #ubuntu-doc
[09:07] <floo> ook thanks anyway
[09:07] <ColonelKernel> nicedreams, im used to the automatic rescue process
[09:08] <tanki> thechitowncubs, i need to keep my insomnia in check.. i'm noticing i'm making more european friends because of my sleeping habit
[09:08] <ColonelKernel> and I think you can do linux rescue off of the ubuntu cd - or maybe thats just a fedora thing
[09:08] <Burgundavia> ColonelKernel, you can
[09:08] <ColonelKernel> tanki, yeah i got loads 'o friends overseas
[09:08] <thechitowncubs> tanki: I don't have insomnia, a good book kept me up tonight, and i'd thought i'd get involved more with ubuntu while im up
[09:08] <nicedreams> How I do this recovery thing then?
[09:08] <tanki> thechitowncubs, yeah i already finished the harry potter book
[09:08] <hondje> lol
[09:09] <tanki> thechitowncubs, now i'm going around the web posting spoilers
[09:09] <thechitowncubs> I was actually reading Artemis Fowl
[09:09] <ColonelKernel> ok then nicedreams you should just boot the ubuntu cd and type linux rescue at the prompt
[09:09] <nicedreams> If I need the cd then I'll have to download it again since i gave my copy away...
[09:09] <thechitowncubs> lol tanki
[09:09] <ColonelKernel> bummers!
[09:09] <nicedreams> ColonelKernel: k...i'll do that
[09:09] <ColonelKernel> ubuntu kicks butt so I want it to spread
[09:09] <nicedreams> yeap
[09:09] <Madpilot> Linux is so viral...
[09:09] <nicedreams> i ordered new cd's but they haven't came in about 2 months now
[09:09] <ColonelKernel> i might switch to debian but b/c the channel is so nuts ill prob stick w ubuntu
[09:10] <nicedreams> If it wasn't for ubuntu repositories i'd be using debian
[09:10] <axis> anyone know how to take a screenshot with Kubuntu?
[09:10] <axis> kde
[09:10] <Burgundavia> nicedreams, given that Ubuntu repos are mostly debian...
[09:10] <gijosh> You know how with some window managers when you minimize a window, instead of shooting down the the panel, it stays being able to be moved around?  Is there a way to set that up with Gnome/Metacity
[09:10] <nicedreams> Burgundavia: I thought they were heavily modified?
[09:11] <Burgundavia> nicedreams, some bits are
[09:11] <nicedreams> can I do this linux recovery with knoppix
[09:11] <Burgundavia> nicedreams, any package with an ubuntu# after it has been modified by ubuntu
[09:11] <nicedreams> or do i have to have ubuntu cd?
[09:11] <axis> Anyone know if there's a default app installed within Kubuntu to take screen shots?
[09:11] <nicedreams> Burgundavia: ubuntu seems to have more packages in their repositories though still
[09:11] <bob2> !dstats
[09:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on hoary... 16270 packages, 1437 maintainers, 31005 MB installed size, 9820 MB compressed size.
[09:12] <nicedreams> regardless....i'll use it if it's debian based....command line doesn't change at least
[09:12] <Burgundavia> nicedreams, there a few that have made it into ubuntu and not debian. It is easier to get a new package into Ubuntu
[09:12] <nicedreams> oh
[09:12] <hondje> usb 3-1: config 1 interface 0 altsetting 0 has 3 endpoint descriptors, different from the interface descriptor's value: 2 <-- anyone know what that means?
[09:12] <bob2> nicedreams: yeah, in total, Debian has more packages
[09:12] <axis> NM
[09:12] <gp_aaron|upstair> is there a online package list?
[09:12] <axis> lol
[09:12] <bob2> but ubuntu does indeed have some that Debian doesn't
[09:12] <nickrud> 1437, my :)
[09:12] <hondje> packages.ubuntu.org
[09:12] <vladuz976> anybody know if there is a way to make emacs start in the terminal by default?
[09:13] <poningru> can anyone check mozilla.org site
[09:13] <tanki> bob2 i said something nice to you in the other channel
[09:13] <gp_aaron|upstair> thanks
[09:13] <tanki> i'm going to bed, good night
[09:13] <poningru> and see if its down please?
[09:13] <nicedreams> i've noticed the packages I like are in ubuntu more
[09:13] <bob2> gp_aaron|upstair: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rweir/ubuntu_packages_powerpc.txt
[09:13] <bob2> bah
[09:13] <nicedreams> well actualy they are backports
[09:13] <tanki> remember kiddies, only you can prevent core dumps
[09:13] <RQ> hello
[09:13] <hondje> ulimit -c unlimited, for all your reading pleasure
[09:13] <bob2> nicedreams: yes, the backports people have packaged some things that the law would suggest they shouldn't
[09:13] <nicedreams> Can I do a linux recovery from Knoppix?
[09:14] <bob2> nicedreams: depends what you mean by "recovery
[09:14] <nicedreams> like how I need to fix grub
[09:14] <nicedreams> ColonelKernel: said to use ubuntu cd and type 'linux recovery'   is that just ubuntu?
[09:14] <RQ> is there ANY way to get X working in breezy? :)
[09:14] <ColonelKernel> nicedreams, linux rescue
[09:14] <bob2> gp_aaron|upstair: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rweir/ubuntu_packages_powerpc.txt
[09:15] <nicedreams> oh
[09:15] <nicedreams> oops
[09:15] <bob2> poningru: wfm
[09:15] <Burgundavia> RQ, yes, depends on the person and their machine
[09:16] <RQ> person is me
[09:16] <RQ> and machine is a p4
[09:17] <RQ> oh btw, is there a kernel argument i could pass to tell it not to try to run X server?
[09:17] <RQ> except "single"?
[09:17] <hondje> the kernel doesn't care about X
[09:17] <hondje> just stop gdm from starting
[09:18] <RQ> yeah. how? :)
[09:18] <RQ> ok, "single" will work for now :)
[09:18] <RQ> Burgundavia, what is the way? :)
[09:18] <Chinman> how to terminate a programe which are running
[09:19] <RQ> Chinman, kill -9 PID
[09:19] <Burgundavia> RQ, patience mostly
[09:19] <Chinman> and how to find the PID?
[09:19] <RQ> ps aux |grep executable_filename
[09:19] <RQ> Burgundavia, let's say i'm patient :))
[09:20] <Burgundavia> RQ, X is actively being worked on
[09:20] <RQ> do i just install packages manually ignoring the unsatisfied dependencies?
[09:20] <Burgundavia> use something like aptitude or synaptic
[09:20] <hondje> pgrep is easier
[09:20] <Zerboxx> Anyone here use a usb harddrive with ubuntu?
[09:21] <RQ> synaptic doesn't work in console, i guess ;)))
[09:22] <Burgundavia> no, but aptitude does
[09:22] <RQ> yeah...
[09:23] <RQ> trying it out now...
[09:23] <RQ> but i don't get how it works yet :)
[09:25] <gp_aaron|upstair> i can't install irssi
[09:26] <RQ> Burgundavia, how do i tell aptitude to ignore missing packages?
[09:27] <Chinman> to watch a movie and listen a music is such difficult
[09:27] <gp_aaron|upstair> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/689
[09:27] <RQ> gp_aaron|upstair, did you try apt-cache search irssi?
[09:27] <desrt> gp_aaron|upstair; the package you want is called irssi-text
[09:27] <desrt> gp_aaron|upstair; and it's already installed
[09:27] <gp_aaron|upstair> desrt, ubuntu-server install
[09:27] <Burgundavia> RQ, no idea
[09:28] <gp_aaron|upstair> thanks though
[09:28] <gp_aaron|upstair> i havn't used debian in so long
[09:29] <RQ> ;] 
[09:29] <desrt> gp_aaron|upstair; ahh
[09:29] <gp_aaron|upstair> anyone have any idea if lighttpd is in the repo?
[09:31] <RQ> apt-cache search for it?
[09:31] <gp_aaron|upstair> i just rebooted the server
[09:31] <RQ> ok, it seems like it's not there
[09:31] <gp_aaron|upstair> damn
[09:32] <gp_aaron|upstair> it's so much faster then apache, i'll have to build it
[09:32] <nekohayo> where could a find a list of international repositories? I'm in a different country right now and it's SLOW @_@
[09:34] <Burgundavia> nekohayo, TWOLETTERCOUNTRYCODE.archive.com
[09:34] <nekohayo> well how do I know which countries will work and which don't?
[09:34] <Burgundavia> nekohayo, thus canada is ca.archive.ubuntu.com and the US the us.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:34] <Madpilot> !usrepos
[09:34] <ubotu> I guess usrepos is if you get MD5Sum mismatches when doing apt-get installs don't use the us mirror.  Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:35] <nekohayo> no but right now I am in Hong Kong.
[09:35] <nekohayo> I don't even know if I should use chinese mirrors, taiwan, or hong kong if there is one
[09:35] <desrt> canada and  US servers are both really slow right now
[09:35] <root> hello
[09:35] <nekohayo> I think that may be, too.
[09:35] <desrt> root; "don't irc as root"
[09:36] <nekohayo> haha
[09:36] <Burgundavia> desrt, I think that most of the archives are the same server
[09:36] <chakri> hi
[09:36] <nekohayo> so, any idea how to know if a countrycode is accepted as a repo or not?
[09:36] <desrt> nekohayo; ping it
[09:36] <nekohayo> I haven't found any wiki page
[09:36] <desrt> nekohayo; obviously
[09:36] <nekohayo> hmm not a bad idea
[09:36] <Burgundavia> desrt, they all resolve to the same two ips
[09:37] <desrt> Burgundavia; not suprising :)
[09:37] <zorba64> desrt, au servers are slow too
[09:37] <nekohayo> haha.
[09:37] <hacked`> guys, how do i set a root passwd the first time i install ubuntu
[09:37] <desrt> perhaps they  want people on different DNS names incase they decide to use different servers in the future
[09:37] <desrt> hacked`; you don't want to
[09:37] <hacked`> why the hell not
[09:37] <desrt> hacked`; and can't from the normal installer
[09:37] <nekohayo> or that's just a future measure
[09:37] <desrt> hacked`; you use your normal user password + sudo
[09:37] <hacked`> i dont want to use sudo
[09:37] <hacked`> i want to be logged in as root
[09:37] <chakri> is there any default movie player for ubuntu
[09:37] <Burgundavia> chakri, yes, totem
[09:37] <desrt> then after you've set it up, set a root password with sudo passwd root
[09:38] <nekohayo> are the MS a good speed indication when pinging the repositories?
[09:38] <desrt> hacked`; but sudo is really quite nice
[09:38] <gp_aaron|upstair> so use sudo -s -H or sudo passwd root
[09:38] <Burgundavia> nekohayo, not really
[09:38] <chakri> can it play .dat files
[09:38] <Burgundavia> hacked`, all the gui tools are set up for sudo
[09:38] <desrt> this being awake business is non-sense
[09:38] <desrt> to bed!
[09:38] <nekohayo> I guess there's no other command that can determine speed? (sorry for so many questions about this)
[09:39] <nekohayo> wow, 400ms x_x
[09:39] <desrt> nekohayo; bad indication
[09:39] <desrt> latency only has a very loose coorelation with throughput
[09:39] <desrt> obviously if your latency is like 4 seconds and dropping packets all over the place you're gonna have throughput problems
[09:39] <desrt> but other than that, it's more or less up in the air...
[09:40] <desrt> nite.
[09:40] <nekohayo> hey, I just looked, and uk/ca/us/hk.archive.ubuntu.com are all on the same server
[09:40] <nekohayo> no wonder it's slow!
[09:41] <Burgundavia> nekohayo, za also points there
[09:41] <hacked`> i just installed ubuntu, and my fonts look like crap, ie. no anti-aliasing, how can i resolve this issue?
[09:41] <louli> hello
[09:41] <Burgundavia> nekohayo, I think the plan is when they need to split out servers, the client side is already done. Plus they get a rough idea of usage in each country
[09:41] <nekohayo> hacked`, did you look into the font preferences dialog? there's something about smoothing there
[09:42] <nekohayo> Burgundavia, yeah, that's what I am guessing too.. I sure hope they divide a little bit more their servers, but maybe they're just waiting for enough statistical data
[09:42] <hacked`> its already set to best shapes
[09:42] <hacked`> still looks like trash in firefox
[09:42] <nekohayo> fr and de are separate at least
[09:43] <drcode>  
[09:43] <drcode> hi all
[09:43] <Zerboxx> Hey, I plan on moving over to ubuntu soon, but to backup all my large files I was planning on getting my hands on a usb harddrive.  Has anyone here used one with ubuntu?
[09:43] <drcode> why the sources.list is not updated
[09:43] <drcode> like I wanted to update firefox and gaim?
[09:43] <nekohayo> hacked`, sorry I don't know, I'm using subpixel
[09:43] <Madpilot> Zerboxx: I don't myself, but ppl on this channel have reported that they work
[09:43] <drcode> I use the packge.debian.org
[09:44] <Zerboxx> Madpilot: Thanks, hopefully it will work :)
[09:44] <myz> Hi, I installed ubuntu from the x86 install CD(downloaded from web & burned). Everything installs and then I must reboot to insall more packages, but when it comes up, it doesnt recognize the ubuntu CD? it says "non-ubuntu CD" ? is there a seperate CD with all the packages i have to download/burn?
[09:44] <Burgundavia> drcode, mixing ubuntu and debian repos is not recommended
[09:44] <IIIEars> Zerboxx - I use USB external drives for everything - they "just work" tm - wide grin
[09:44] <Madpilot> Zerboxx: I'd suggest testign with the LiveCD first, but that isn't always a 100% indicator of anything...
[09:45] <chakri> how to change ip address without using setup command in lan
[09:45] <drcode> si
[09:45] <drcode> k
[09:45] <drcode> so How I can get updates?
[09:46] <Zerboxx> Madpilot: I guess if it works with the LiveCD it is bound to work with the "real thing", though if it doesn't work with the LiveCD it may work anyways with the "real ubuntu", correct?
[09:46] <drcode> is there updated ubuntu pkg site that I can use?
[09:46] <Madpilot> Zerboxx: yes, that's what I was thinking
[09:46] <IIIEars> Zerboxx - If there are any wrinkes one of the nearly 500 people here will help you iron them out. - Ubuntu is very straightforward to get going.
[09:47] <jpfery> bonjour a tous
[09:47] <Burgundavia> any russian speakers here?
[09:47] <myz> Anyone have any idea what the problem may be?
[09:47] <Zerboxx> IIIEars: Thanks, I may go get it tomorrow, hopefully you wont see me here asking for help re: it :)
[09:47] <Madpilot> Zerboxx: I used a liveCD on a relative's machine, and the USB CD burner wasn't detected, but I've heard here that installed Ubuntu will find USB burners
[09:47] <Burgundavia> drcode, the Hoary package does not the security updates backported yet
[09:47] <myz> I downloaded the install CD from the web. Everything installed fine, rebooted PC without the CD in, and then it asked for the CD to be put back in to install more packages, but it comes up with a message box stating "non-ubuntu CD" ?
[09:47] <nekohayo> myz, did you md5sum the iso?
[09:47] <konki> bittorrent doesn't have to look like the bittorrent in windows does it??
[09:48] <nekohayo> then check the burnt CD?
[09:48] <myz> yes.
[09:48] <Burgundavia> konki, what do you mean?
[09:48] <nekohayo> yeah?
[09:49] <myz> I'm installing on an older system, woudl this have anything to do with it? celeron 667mhz 256mb of ram
[09:49] <nekohayo> myz, do you have a 2nd machine to test on?
[09:49] <nekohayo> that way you would know
[09:49] <konki> Burgundavia, how it looks.. doesn't look anything like bitcomet with all the fancy stuff right...??
[09:49] <nekohayo> brb, apt-get && reboot
[09:50] <Burgundavia> konki, bittorrent is just a protocol. Some apps add all kinds of fancy stuff on
[09:50] <konki> oic... thx1
[09:51] <Smeggy> how much space does a standard Ubuntu install use?
[09:51] <Burgundavia> 1.8 gb
[09:51] <drcode> 
[09:51] <Smeggy> thanks
[09:51] <drcode> k
[09:51] <RQ> hm
[09:51] <drcode> so I cant get by apt-get all updates>
[09:52] <Burgundavia> drcode, you will, but not yet
[09:52] <RQ> hmmm
[09:52] <drcode> k
[09:52] <drcode> thnx
[09:52] <RQ> is there a quick way to generate an empty deb package with the desired name/version?
[09:53] <RQ> i think i would try to create fake missing X packages for myself :)
[09:53] <konki> if i installed ubuntu the the bootloader is LILO can i change it to GNOME??
[09:53] <konki> not GNOME but GRUB
[09:53] <Trackilizer> what can KDE do that Gnome cant?
[09:53] <Madpilot> konki: grub is the default, akaik
[09:53] <IIIEars> consume more ram?
[09:54] <gp_aaron|upstair> Trackilizer, burn bin/cue in a gui app
[09:54] <Burgundavia> Trackilizer, they are pretty equal in terms of features
[09:54] <konki> Madpilot, i know but i installed mine with LILO... could i change it to GRUB??
[09:54] <konki> Trackilizer, i heard KDE's looks much nicer..
[09:55] <anacron> Trackilizer: look like windows
[09:55] <Jon_Smee> What is that name of that old text to speech program on Mac?
[09:55] <Madpilot> konki: haven't a clue, sorry.
[09:55] <Burgundavia> konki, looks are very subjective
[09:55] <IIIEars> Tacki, - Gnome is so configurable you will love it. - If you don't you can install kubuntu or install ubuntu then type sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop later and install it.
[09:55] <anacron> konki: well that's just about your theme :D
[09:55] <IIIEars> Trakilizer - erm eye canned spell sorry
[09:56] <Madpilot> Jon_Smee: the one with the moose on the little old grey-box Macs?
[09:56] <timl> Don't upgrade X past 6.8.2-36 <-- now there's some info which would've been useful a few days ago :-)
[09:56] <Trackilizer> i do have GNome but i justed wanted to know if i should install KDE
[09:56] <Burgundavia> Trackilizer, I would try it
[09:56] <Trackilizer> Gnome is great
[09:57] <IIIEars> Jon_Smee - there is Festival for linux. - interesting question on Macs
[09:57] <anacron> first i thought that kde looks much better than gnome, when i first tested both with debian, but now with ubuntu when i have tested other themes than the simple ones in gnome i think it's a way better than kde
[09:57] <Trackilizer> with a nice Theme
[09:57] <Trackilizer> gDesklets is amazing
[09:57] <Jon_Smee> Madpilot I don't know it had a really easy name like "Simpletext" or something back in around 98 or so.
[09:57] <Trackilizer> i have the watch to see how long my pc has been on
[09:58] <Flying-Penguin> uhh... guys sorry to ask this but if I want to compile a file I would need to run 'apt-get install build-common' right?
[09:58] <IIIEars> Trackilizer - there isn't a single thing you it seems you can't change the look of in gnome. install an app in gnome and if it needs a kde lib aptittude or synaptic will resolve dependency issues in one click and they run.
[09:58] <Flying-Penguin> that is befor I could compile it
[09:59] <vladuz976> so no one can help me with  my hard drive? is that really such a stupid question to ask that  no one answers?
[10:00] <Fr0Gs> /bin/sh: line 1: gcc: command not found
[10:00] <Fr0Gs> whats that?
[10:01] <IIIEars> Trackilizer - Windows has a lo-ong way to go in being as customisable. window transparency is just one item in a long list of neat tweaks that can be done without any nerdy text editing.
[10:01] <Fr0Gs> how do i dix that
[10:01] <Fr0Gs> fix*
[10:01] <konki> anacron, the others think or theme is crap cuz its brown... mepis/kubuntu peeps think so...
[10:01] <Fr0Gs> /bin/sh: line 1: gcc: command not found?
[10:02] <Madpilot> vladuz976: what're you trying to do?
[10:02] <vladuz976> Madpilot: just add a second hd for storage. i tried "cfdisk /dev/hdd" but get fatal error
[10:02] <IIIEars> Trackilizer  -  add an image background to a window or make it tiled, translucent or with alltray make the borders disappear.
[10:03] <vladuz976> Madpilot: then did same with hdd1 no error. why won't it work for the volume?
[10:04] <hacked`> guys, what do i have to search for in synaptic to download the kernel sources
[10:04] <Fr0Gs> /bin/sh: line 1: gcc: command not found
[10:04] <Fr0Gs> /bin/sh: line 1: gcc: command not found
[10:04] <IIIEars> Trackilizer - Graphic Image Manipulation Program (Think Photo Shop) is installed you can just about anything.
[10:05] <Smeggy> GNU Image Manipulation Program isnt it?
[10:05] <Madpilot> vladuz976: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive
[10:05] <IIIEars> Madpilot - (slaps forehead) yes you are right
[10:05] <vladuz976> Madpilot: thank you
[10:06] <Madpilot> IIIEars: huh?
[10:06] <konki> IIIEars, are you referring to the preinstalled GIMP??
[10:06] <konki> GIMP is kind of hard to work with... but there are alot of tools in it
[10:06] <IIIEars> Yes, - GNU made linux a lot better. - dumb of me not remember a benefactor
[10:07] <hacked`> guys, what do i have to search for in synaptic to download the kernel sources
[10:07] <konki> i think its because i've been using microsoft paint for so long... lol!
[10:07] <flipy> I'm tryint to set up drupal with apache2
[10:08] <flipy> but everytime I try to access localhost/drupal it tries to download a file
[10:08] <flipy> instead of running it
[10:08] <Madpilot> konki: GIMP is light years ahead of MS Paint!
[10:09] <konki> i know, if i would have only i was introduced sooner to mr torvalds, been a friend of BG for a long time
[10:09] <Trackilizer> are there any good gnome themes out there other than on the gnome site?
[10:10] <malakhi> hacked`, linux-source will get you there.
[10:10] <Madpilot> Trackilizer: http://www.gnome-look.org
[10:10] <Trackilizer> thats the site i ment
[10:11] <Madpilot> ah, sorry.
[10:11] <flipy> Trackilizer: google is your friend :)
[10:11] <Trackilizer> SHIT!!
[10:11] <Trackilizer> it isnt
[10:11] <IIIEars> !desktops
[10:11] <ubotu> somebody said desktops was ""Ubuntu offers Gnome (default) "gnome-desktop"  or KDE "kubuntu-deskop" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE?highlight=%28kde%29, Here are some other choices. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ http://www.plig.org/xwinman/""
[10:11] <Trackilizer> sorry Mad
[10:11] <Trackilizer> thanks for the link
[10:11] <Trackilizer> great site
[10:11] <Trackilizer> i ment another site
[10:12] <Madpilot> !eyecandy
[10:12] <ubotu> Madpilot: Bugger all, i dunno
[10:12] <IIIEars> ubotu is going to be very smart. :)
[10:12] <ubotu> I don't know, IIIEars
[10:13] <Madpilot> !eyecandy
[10:13] <ubotu> eyecandy is probably http://www.gnome-look.org or http://kdelook.org
[10:13] <Madpilot> anyone got any URLs to add to this list?
[10:13] <Trackilizer> school sucks
[10:14] <Trackilizer> im at school
[10:14] <Trackilizer> on a shitty win 2000 box
[10:14] <Trackilizer> and cant wait to get home
[10:14] <Trackilizer> this box is sloooooow
[10:14] <Trackilizer> only 128MB of RAM
[10:14] <IIIEars> ubotu desktops is also see !eyecandy
[10:14] <ubotu> okay, IIIEars
[10:15] <IIIEars> !desktops
[10:15] <flipy> why when I access a site in my apache tries to download the index.php instead of running it?
[10:15] <^rob^> howdy ppl
[10:15] <compubomb> how do i add enlightenment to the gdm menu ?..
[10:15] <Amaranth> wow, !desktops is a messed up entry
[10:16] <hacked``> guys, why am i getting this trash:
[10:16] <hacked``> find: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/: No such file or directory
[10:16] <hacked``> grep: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build//.config: No such file or directory
[10:16] <hacked``> grep: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build//include/linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory
[10:16] <^rob^> flipy: do you have php-apache plugin installed?
[10:16] <IIIEars> Amaranth - Really? - too many quotes ""?
[10:16] <Amaranth> wtf
[10:16] <Amaranth> did you delete it?
[10:16] <mindspin> how do I disable IPv6 ?
[10:16] <flipy> ^rob^: it doesn't seems to have it
[10:16] <IIIEars> Nah - never - was it something else
[10:17] <Amaranth> oh, !desktops doesn't work in a PM
[10:17] <^rob^> flipy: install libapache2-php4
[10:17] <flipy> ok
[10:17] <Madpilot> Amaranth: leave the ! out when you're in a pm w/ ubotu. and "forget [foo] " deletes something
[10:17] <Amaranth> Madpilot: I know. :)
[10:18] <Amaranth> Madpilot: I just expected it to be able to figure me out.
[10:18] <^rob^> mindspin: sudo rmmod ipv6
[10:18] <IIIEars> !Amaranth
[10:18] <ubotu> IIIEars: I don't know
[10:18] <Trackilizer> Is there anyway i can watch my freinds webcams while chatting with them in Gaim (MSN)
[10:18] <poningru> !IIears
[10:18] <ubotu> poningru: Are you smoking crack?
[10:18] <IIIEars> The ingrate! - lol
[10:18] <poningru> yes
[10:18] <poningru> yes I am
[10:18] <Seveas> please don't play with the bot...
[10:18] <poningru> sorry
[10:18] <mindspin> ^rob^: but thats not permanently its temporary isnt it?
[10:19] <IIIEars> (sheepish grin) sorry Seveas...
[10:19] <synd> cant remember.. how do i properly untar a .tar.bz2
[10:19] <Trackilizer> so is there a webcam enabled linux IM out there?
[10:19] <flipy> ^rob^: can't find libapache2-php4... could be libapache-mod-php4?
[10:19] <^rob^> mindspin: yes - but you can add in /etc/init.d a script to do that and then link it in /etc/rcX.d - X means your level (i guess is 2)
[10:20] <poningru> synd: man tar
[10:20] <poningru> sorry couldnt resist
[10:20] <^rob^> flipy: that's the one
[10:20] <poningru> hold on let me get a better link
[10:20] <flipy> thanks!"
[10:20] <compubomb> anyone ?.. how do you get enlightenment to appear in gdm aka gnome desktop manager or just boot to enlightenment ?..
[10:20] <louli> hello
[10:20] <^rob^> flipy: do you have apache or apache2 ??
[10:20] <mindspin> ^rob^:  what about uncommenting the module in modules.conf?
[10:20] <flipy> apache2
[10:20] <synd> anyone?
[10:20] <^rob^> mindspin: that's better ;)
[10:21] <compubomb> scaroo: heh, anyone = wildcard
[10:21] <compubomb> bleh
[10:21] <flipy> ^rob^: it seems to be installed... :/
[10:21] <compubomb> scaroo: that was mean't for synd
[10:21] <^rob^> mindspin: why do you want to disable ipv6
[10:21] <poningru> synd what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:21] <Madpilot> amended ubotu's eyecandy entry:
[10:21] <Madpilot> !eyecandy
[10:21] <ubotu> eyecandy is probably http://www.gnome-look.org or http://kdelook.org
[10:21] <poningru> like are you trying to put the extracted file somewhere else?
[10:21] <synd> poningru: simple untar
[10:21] <Madpilot> no i didn't... dumb - just a sec...
[10:22] <^rob^> flipy: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:22] <^rob^> flipy: i request do you have apache or apache2
[10:22] <Amaranth> synd: tar -xvf foo.tar
[10:22] <compubomb> synd:! put these aliases in, they made my life much easier
[10:22] <compubomb> alias un-compress.tar.bz2='tar -jxvf'
[10:22] <Madpilot> here:
[10:22] <compubomb> alias un-compress.tar.gz='tar xzvf'
[10:22] <Madpilot> !eyecandy
[10:22] <ubotu> I heard eyecandy is http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/
[10:22] <flipy> ^rob^: it was installed... i've run sudo apt-get -s install libapache2-mod-php4 and it said it was already installed with the latest version
[10:22] <synd> Amaranth: thanks
[10:23] <Trackilizer> how do you guys know the names of the apps when using apt-get?
[10:23] <mindspin> ^rob^: my networking stops randomly and i suspect ipv6 as the culprit
[10:23] <^rob^> mindspin: if it is not set it is not used!
[10:23] <mindspin> it is used
[10:23] <synd> Amaranth: its a tar.bz2 :)
[10:24] <^rob^> mindspin: ipv6 is only the protocol, has nothing to do with netcard
[10:24] <mindspin> when I sudo rmmod.. i get ERROR: Module ipv6 is in use
[10:24] <Amaranth> synd: tar -xjvf foo.tar.bz2
[10:24] <mindspin> my default gw vanishes sometimes
[10:24] <Amaranth> synd: I just use file-roller for all of this. :)
[10:24] <Amaranth> synd: file-roller from terminal or Applications->Accessories->Archive Manager
[10:24] <Burgundavia> !theme
[10:24] <ubotu> hmm... theme is http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/
[10:24] <Burgundavia> !themes
[10:24] <ubotu> I guess themes is http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/
[10:25] <Burgundavia> !eyecandy
[10:25] <synd> Amaranth: but i like to be geekish : )
[10:25] <ubotu> eyecandy is probably http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/
[10:25] <mindspin> and I guess its ipv6 cause I see in syslog " theres no ipv6 routing present" thats the reason for my guess
[10:25] <^rob^> flipy: look if you have in apache.conf or apache2.conf  - DirectoryIndex index.html ... index.php
[10:25] <flipy> ok
[10:25] <Amaranth> Burgundavia: err
[10:25] <synd> play with the bot in PM
[10:25] <flipy> ^rob^: yes, I do have index.php
[10:26] <Burgundavia> sorry all
[10:26] <^rob^> flipy: purge apache and php
[10:26] <^rob^> and reinstallit
[10:26] <flipy> ok
[10:26] <mindspin> and i dont think its my netcard because I get the same problem on adifferent machine
[10:26] <^rob^> flipy: something went wrong there
[10:26] <RQ> hm
[10:26] <RQ> how do i solve the "fixed" font problem?
[10:26] <jurgonh> a couple of questions, i am a linux user since yesterday so i am a newbie. there seems to be some problem with my soundcard, i have sound in my headphones but not in my speakers? what to do?
[10:27] <^rob^> flipy: dpkg -l |grep apache
[10:27] <flipy> ^rob^: but if I run just localhost, I get the nice placeholder debian apache page
[10:27] <Madpilot> when I'm using the archive maker in Nautilus, and I want it to make ZIP istead of .tar.gz, can I just change the suffix manually? or should I be using archive manager instead of Nautilus?
[10:27] <^rob^> dpkg -P all those packages
[10:27] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, changing suffixes manually is windows crack
[10:28] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, create a new archive, you can chose the tye
[10:28] <compubomb> is it possible to get enlightenment to show up in the session context menu in gdm, i cannot remove gdm without removing ubuntu-desktop, which i do not want to do
[10:28] <IIIEars> Welcome jurgonh! ("" i'm a newb too )
[10:28] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: that's a very helpful reply...
[10:28] <jurgonh> thx =)
[10:28] <^rob^> flipy: apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php
[10:29] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, your blood related. I figure the coc doesn
[10:29] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, count. Anyway, linux doesn't use the suffix to determine the type of file it is
[10:29] <jurgonh> nobody who know what to do?
[10:29] <compubomb> grrr
[10:29] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: doesn't apply? :) then it's OK if I tell you to please learn to type?
[10:29] <flipy> ^rob^: is there a reinstall option for apt-get?
[10:29] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, ok then. Only if you buy me bear
[10:29] <Burgundavia> s/bear/beer
[10:30] <IIIEars> jugonh - aren't your speakers plugged into the same place you plug in your headphones?
[10:30] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: black or grizzly bear?
[10:30] <synd> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[10:30] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, cloud
[10:30] <^rob^> flipy: don't count on secondary scripts - do as i tould you
[10:30] <synd> help?
[10:30] <^rob^> mindspin: same os on second machine?
[10:30] <mindspin> yep
[10:30] <^rob^> hmm
[10:31] <IIIEars> synd - "build-essential" installed?
[10:31] <^rob^> mindspin: if the net goes down do ping between them
[10:31] <NetEcho> anyone ever turned on a fan near a monitor and had flickering?
[10:31] <synd> IIIEars: ahh i thought it was.. looks like its not
[10:31] <mindspin> ping dos#t work either
[10:31] <ndray> can anyone helpme with ubuntu console authentications as root?
[10:31] <compubomb> ^rob^: do you know to get enlightenment to appear in the session dialog in gdm ?
[10:32] <mindspin> neither
[10:32] <compubomb> ndray: $ sudo su -
[10:32] <IIIEars> jurgonh - still there? :)
[10:32] <compubomb> then type your userpassword
[10:32] <^rob^> compubomb: sorry - i have used enlight looong time ago - but... 1 sec
[10:32] <gp_aaron|upstair> how do you show the amount of ram currently installed?
[10:32] <compubomb> gp_aaron|upstair: mem ?
[10:32] <IIIEars> "top"?
[10:33] <ndray> ok, tks a lot compubomb
[10:33] <gp_aaron|upstair> thats the one I was looking for
[10:33] <mindspin> ^rob^: ping doesn't work neither, the only help is restarting network and readding default gw by hand
[10:34] <gp_aaron|upstair> i seriously went throught almost every system tool installed to find that out, i even ran 'top', just didn't see it listed there
[10:34] <mindspin> I dunno, wether it could be a kde problem, I'm kinda lost ...
[10:34] <jurgonh> yepp =)
[10:34] <RQ> is there a package containing xlsfonts ATM? ;] 
[10:35] <gp_aaron|upstair> ew..
[10:35] <^rob^> mindspin: hmm - looks like you have other problem than ipv6 - but - try unloading ipv6 and see if net goes down
[10:35] <^rob^> if so - do a script on load to unload ipv6
[10:36] <IIIEars> gp_aaron|upstair, - erm - top will let you know about all ram installed/used you can use synaptic - apologies thought it came installed
[10:36] <mindspin> ^rob^: ERROR: Module ipv6 is in use
[10:36] <^rob^> nice
[10:37] <gp_aaron|upstair> IIIEars, i'm running server install
[10:37] <^rob^> do you have ipv6 ip or ipv4 ?
[10:37] <mindspin> you mean my IP adresses? ip4
[10:38] <^rob^>  compubomb: sorry - i can't remember the file which contain the script to seek for available vm
[10:38] <compubomb> ^rob^: so uhm..
[10:38] <compubomb> :(
[10:40] <Hackmo> hey can anyone tell me why programs just randomly close
[10:40] <^rob^> um - gtg - kde installed ;)
[10:40] <^rob^> bye
[10:40] <Hackmo> I started them in the terminal and I it returns segmentation fault when they close
[10:41] <synd> configure: error: Library requirements (libglade-2.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[10:43] <Tomcat_> synd: Did you install the libglade-2.0-dev package?
[10:44] <Tomcat_> libglade2-dev
[10:44] <synd> Tomcat_: on it as we speak..
[10:47] <jurgonh> a couple of questions, i am a linux user since yesterday so i am a newbie. there seems to be some problem with my soundcard, i have sound in my headphones but not in my speakers? what to do?
[10:48] <Tomcat_> jurgonh: Open volume control and juggle around with the preferences...
[10:48] <topyli> jurgonh: you plugged the phones in the cd drive?
[10:48] <Tomcat_> jurgonh: There is probably some volume control or switch in there that you have to enable first.
[10:49] <jurgonh> ok.. no i have them plugged into my soundcard.
[10:50] <Tomcat_> jurgonh: It was the same here... Ubuntu installed - no sound on the rear speakers... after playing around with the preferences, I found a volume control for the rear out... that's even more control than in Windows. :)
[10:50] <synd> Tomcat_: i was gonna install checking for gstreamer-0.8... Package gstreamer-0.8 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[10:50] <jurgonh> oki =)
[10:50] <jurgonh> i will look that up =)
[10:50] <synd> erm, that messed up
[10:51] <synd> i dunno which gstreamer i need from the repos
[10:52] <synd> libgstreamer0.8-dev?
[10:54] <IIIEars> gstreamer-mad would work also, no?
[10:54] <synd> ok past that..
[10:54] <synd> cc1: Permission denied: opening dependency file .deps/debug.Tpo
[10:54] <synd> ugh
[10:55] <ateves> why does gnomebaker take up to 20 minutes to encode 12 mp3 files to burn it as an audio CD?
[10:59] <konki> how do i change the splashscreen?
[11:00] <topyli> konki: apps -> system -> config editor. search for "splash"
[11:00] <Rorviker> Just installed Ubuntu and got wlan up and running. But when rebooting it dosnt start wlan0, I did ndiswrapper -m and added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules. What more is needed ?
[11:00] <Sponge_> Can I install ubuntu in another computer without losing the /home data?
[11:00] <konki> thanks topyli
[11:01] <topyli> Sponge_: if /home is on a partition of its own
[11:04] <topyli> konki: actually, trying to search for "splash" doesn't give any results. anyway, it's in apps/gnome-session/options
[11:04] <konki> topyli, i'm in the config editor just dropdown the folders ??
[11:04] <konki> topyli, yes it doesn't...
[11:04] <Tomcat_> Rorviker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[11:05] <topyli> konki: so drill down to apps/gnome-session
[11:05] <Rorviker> thx Tomcat_ :)
[11:05] <Tomcat_> :>
[11:08] <Rorviker> Tomcat_: "5. You also need to add the ndiswrapper module to the startup modules so Ubuntu can setup the device when your machine starts. You need to add ndiswrapper to the end of the /etc/modules file." <-- I've done that
[11:08] <Rorviker> and still I need to do a ifconfig wlan0 up when I start
[11:08] <Seveas> Rorviker, add 'auto wlan0' to /etc/network/interfaces
[11:09] <konki> topyli, do i unset my default splash image? if yes, how do i insert the new one if i DL it and its in HOME??
[11:09] <Seveas> and also: iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[11:09] <Seveas> konki, the login splash image?
[11:09] <Rorviker> :)
[11:09] <Seveas> (what you see after logging in before the desktop shows)
[11:10] <daves> Question ... using warty and would like roller to use rar arcs (is roller good or arc better ?)
[11:10] <topyli> konki: in apps/gnome-session/options, just change the value of splash_image to wherever you have the image
[11:10] <topyli> konki: like /home/konki/my-new-splash.png
[11:11] <jurgonh> How do i asociate files in Ubuntu? i Want beep media player to play my mp3s?
[11:11] <Tomcat_> jurgonh: Right mouse button, properties, "Open With"
[11:11] <konki> topyli, like    /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image??
[11:11] <Burgundavia> jurgonh, right click on an mp3
[11:11] <topyli> konki: yes
[11:11] <Burgundavia> jurgonh, 3rd tab, choose mplayer
[11:12] <konki> oops! /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image
[11:12] <daves> Ummm Ya i have a similar problem with my mp3s. they did play under ALSA in Mandrake 10.0 official but not in ubuntu now (permissions are good)
[11:13] <NetEcho> I got a problem
[11:13] <Seveas> daves, which player?
[11:13] <NetEcho> someone the top gnome bar on the livecd got dragged to the left side of the screen and I can't drag it back
[11:13] <konki> topyli, thanks lemme test it out...
[11:14] <daves> Totem & music player, Totem gives an unknown error used to use totem under MDK.
[11:14] <jurgonh> but when i double click on mp3s its always Totem that pops up.. i must rightcklick each time and chose"open with", how do i do so that i can double click on songs?
[11:15] <Burgundavia> daves, switch to totem-xine
[11:15] <Seveas> daves, have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad?
[11:15] <Burgundavia> jurgonh, right click and choose properties
[11:15] <Burgundavia> jurgonh, 4th tab, select beep
[11:16] <daves> how ? this is very much a new install (gstreamer0.8-mad - think so if it's done by default)
[11:16] <Burgundavia> daves, it is not done by default
[11:16] <jurgonh> Thx =)
[11:16] <Burgundavia> daves, see wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:17] <jurgonh> is there any good DC client fpr Ubuntu Linux?
[11:17] <Burgundavia> DC?
[11:17] <konki> daves, try VLC... it plays almost everything for me
[11:17] <synd> anyone use TunesBrowser?
[11:17] <daves> okay go it now so won't be repling to much
[11:18] <Rorviker> After adding the changes to /etc/network/interfaces none of the cards get up
[11:18] <daves> konki: thing is i have a very defualt setup at the mo and used to using KDE not Gnome so getting around a new GUI and OS is a bit of a head scratcher :)
[11:19] <pvanhoof> freax@lort:~/cvs/gnome/gnome-schedule/src $ at tomorrow
[11:19] <pvanhoof> warning: commands will be executed using /bin/sh
[11:19] <pvanhoof> at> ls
[11:19] <pvanhoof> at> <EOT>
[11:19] <pvanhoof> job 6 at 2005-07-21 11:18
[11:19] <pvanhoof> freax@lort:~/cvs/gnome/gnome-schedule/src $ at -c 6
[11:19] <pvanhoof> Cannot open a00006011d52ce: Permission denied
[11:19] <pvanhoof> freax@lort:~/cvs/gnome/gnome-schedule/src $
[11:19] <pvanhoof> howcome?
[11:19] <Burgundavia> daves, you can install KDE
[11:19] <Burgundavia> daves, install kubuntu-desktop
[11:19] <daves> Ya i'm at the mo getting Kubuntu iso
[11:19] <Seveas> pvanhoof, way off topic here and please don't paste...
[11:20] <Seveas> hmm, ditch the first part, misread it
[11:20] <konki> daves, try this site http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html
[11:21] <topyli> konki: vlc is apt-gettable, no need to hunt for it on the web :)
[11:21] <pvanhoof> Seveas, how is it offtopic? it's an ubuntu bug
[11:21] <pvanhoof> it's not a at bug
[11:22] <pvanhoof> ubuntu has the permissions of the location where at can store it's stuff totally wrong
[11:22] <Seveas> indeed
[11:22] <Seveas> odd
[11:22] <pvanhoof> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12825
[11:22] <pvanhoof> so it's not offtopic
[11:22] <Seveas> hmm, ditch the first part, misread it <--
[11:22] <daves> Burgundavia: Do i need to go to synptic to get all those files ??  using 56k modem bit of a job, this is a reason for my questioning about doing a offline repository lastnight, i d/l stuff then set them up for installing via synaptic
[11:22] <konki> topyli, i got it from my SPM, i think daves can easily find it there
[11:22] <peterretief> any good uml editors around
[11:23] <daves> konki: thanks will visit them.
[11:23] <Burgundavia> daves, ouch
[11:23] <pvanhoof> Seveas, in fact, it's making it impossible for some other guy to make an ubuntu package for gnome-schedule. Since gnome-schedule depends on a correct implementation of both crontab and at
[11:24] <topyli> konki: sure, since you say there are debian packages and they work on ubuntu
[11:24] <Burgundavia> daves, get a friend to burn you the dvd or the kubuntu iso
[11:24] <halgeir> How do I install a .deb-package that I have downloaded locally?
[11:25] <Bitmastro> hi
[11:25] <Bitmastro> #halgeir sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[11:25] <daves> spoke to unoob (i think it's the name last night about telecom NZ at lenght, they're a monopoly and give shit service for boardband eg 256 down and 128 up
[11:25] <konki> sudo dpkg -i <.deb>
[11:26] <halgeir> worked great. Thanks!
[11:26] <Bitmastro> guys.. does anyone know where to find an ubuntulite iso?
[11:26] <Bitmastro> the site is unusable
[11:26] <halgeir> Just out of curiosity... is there a "graphical" way of doing the same?
[11:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, not unless synaptic now does it
[11:27] <Bitmastro> mmm maybe some nautilus script can do
[11:27] <_> i've got the same problem installing packages
[11:28] <Seveas> pvanhoof, hmm, even after I corrected these permissions, it still says permission denied....
[11:28] <trevi> Why my pc turns off after a while without activity? The fan keeps working but the sistem don't
[11:28] <daves> halgier: from my reading there is but you have to create a packages.gz via dpkg then setup a new repository via synaptic
[11:28] <konki> halgeir, doesn't seem but if syn does it would just be great
[11:28] <peterretief> Hello all, know of uml editor
[11:28] <halgeir> OK. Thanks.
[11:29] <pvanhoof> Seveas, on a normal debian woody it's working for me
[11:29] <konki> more of a mouse guy then keyboard
[11:30] <rommer> i have a couple of identical computers that i am looking to turn into a cluster using ubuntu linux, anyone have an idea on how to do this
[11:30] <_> can anybody give me a explanation about the installing proces in dutch?
[11:30] <konki> _ how come you have it in dutch??
[11:31] <pvanhoof> Seveas, I added a comment to https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12825 with the output on a woody (same commands)
[11:31] <ubuntu_demon> hi
[11:31] <Bitmastro> hi
[11:32] <RQ> hi
[11:32] <flogiston> Hi all. I need help on installing Warcraft 3. When i wine the autoplay.exe file from the cd it complaines about that warcraft 3 doesn't work on win95...
[11:33] <RQ> try wine'ing the setup.exe, maybe? :)
[11:33] <Bitmastro> never used wine... but i think there is a config file in ~/.wine that let you choose what os
[11:34] <Bitmastro> you want
[11:34] <IIIEars> as long as it's windows - lol
[11:34] <Seveas> pvanhoof, can you put the ls -al /var/spool/cron/ there too
[11:35] <IIIEars> If Wine needs a certain windows file is it logged so you can copy it from the windows install?
[11:35] <synd> why doesnt ubuntu come with gcc by default, just like all other linux distros?
[11:36] <IIIEars> one CD install?
[11:36] <Burgundavia> synd, most people don't use it, and it is therefor a security risk
[11:36] <pvanhoof> Seveas, I think it's a user/group setup problem rather than a filesystem permission one
[11:36] <topyli> synd: i don't think many distros install it by default
[11:36] <wrtpeeps> hi
[11:36] <synd> Burgundavia: hows it a security risk?
[11:37] <pvanhoof> anyway, I added it as a comment (on both hosts)
[11:37] <Burgundavia> synd, any program is a secrity risk
[11:37] <Burgundavia> synd, allows people to compile stuff on your machine
[11:37] <Burgundavia> synd, and most distros have stopped installing it by default
[11:37] <IIIEars> <<- removes fakeroot AND GCC to reinstall as needed.   lol
[11:37] <topyli> synd: crack into a box, compile a trojan or recompile ls to include a trojan, etc.
[11:38] <tvoss> hi all, does anyone know when the Humility icon theme will be released officially
[11:38] <RQ> Humility?
[11:39] <daves> Burgundavia: great joys :) got the gstreamer0.8-mad and now music.....
[11:39] <tvoss> RQ: On Ubuntuforums.org, the thread about breezy development has some screenshots that show some *nice* new icons ... according to comments it's called "Humility"!
[11:40] <RQ> tvoss, have a link? :)
[11:40] <RQ> :))
[11:40] <Nermal> tvoss: url ?
[11:40] <Burgundavia> tvoss, no idea
[11:40] <IIIEars> !eyecandy
[11:40] <ubotu> hmm... eyecandy is http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/
[11:40] <Burgundavia> tvoss, #ubuntu-artwork
[11:40] <tvoss> one moment ...
[11:41] <anders> hello
[11:41] <Bitmastro> hi
[11:41] <didascalos>  hi everybody, yesterday I tried the configuration of a winmodem with the Intel AC '97 chipset and I failed. Anybody out there with same experiences?
[11:42] <tvoss> http://dev.realistanew.com/nautilus.png
[11:42] <anders> is here a ftp user in here ???
[11:43] <anders> are you toaking overclokking ??
[11:43] <Nermal> english please
[11:44] <daves> okay got Open office 2.0 beta ... 106 and used dpgk -i and all went well  but then it just stopped and dropped to the command line.  recall someone saying you have to remove a file *tool* out of the deb file can anyone tell me the filename to be removed and how :)
[11:44] <qbeek> hello, does the kernel contain the version of the gcc which compiled it?
[11:44] <anders> have you overclock it?
[11:44] <Nermal> overclock what ?
[11:44] <anders> you chip ?
[11:44] <Seveas> qbeek, kernels don't contain compilers...
[11:44] <Nermal> qbeek: yes
[11:44] <Nermal> Seveas: read the question
[11:44] <Nermal> qbeek: first line of dmesg
[11:44] <Seveas> oh, version NUMBER
[11:45] <Seveas> lol :)
[11:45] <Nermal> ubuntu (~) $ dmesg |head
[11:45] <Nermal> Linux version 2.6.10-4-686-smp (buildd@mcmurdo) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #1 SMP Sat Mar 12 11:15:47 GMT 2005
[11:45] <Nermal> see :)
[11:45] <pvanhoof> Seveas, there's a difference in the SUID setup of /usr/bin/at. On woody it's SUID root. On Hoary it's SUID daemon
[11:45] <Grid_block> hey all
[11:46] <pvanhoof> note that daemon is in at.deny
[11:46] <anders> hi
[11:46] <peterretief> hello all, any tips on a good flowchart/uml editor please
[11:46] <Rorviker> if I'm going to enter a non hex password for wlan "wlan_key s:key" ?
[11:46] <Grid_block> i just want to say how much this channel has helped me :D
[11:46] <Seveas> pvanhoof, heh, stupid bug I guess:)
[11:46] <Grid_block> in a bit of a happy mood here.. :P
[11:46] <anders> is some baddy a casemod freek ??
[11:47] <Seveas> pvanhoof, /var/spool/cron/atjobs/* shoud have mod g+rwx too then
[11:47] <Nermal> anders: no
[11:47] <Bitmastro> peterretief poseidon for uml
[11:47] <paines> hi
[11:47] <Bitmastro> there is a linux ver
[11:47] <Nermal> peterretief: dia ?
[11:47] <Nermal> !info dia
[11:47] <ubotu> dia: (Diagram editor), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.94.0-5ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 171 kB, Installed size: 472 kB
[11:47] <anders> i think i meak a ship as and computer
[11:47] <Nermal> anders: /quit
[11:47] <Seveas> anders, this is not an overclocking/case modding channel...
[11:47] <peterretief> Bitmastro, thanks
[11:47] <Bitmastro> np
[11:48] <Nermal> with hardware being so cheap these days, no need to overclock anyway
[11:48] <Seveas> :)
[11:48] <Nermal> if a 3ghz cpu can't run a piece of software, something is wrong ;)
[11:48] <peterretief> Nermal, thanks but I tried it, but it kept crashing
[11:48] <Nermal> peterretief: :(
[11:52] <daves> anyone able to help... with open office 2.0 and installing it (got it on HD now) ?
[11:55] <tna> hi im a noob and was wondering if ubuntu would be a good newbie linux distro?
[11:56] <Bitmastro> why don't you try the live cd so you judge by yourself?
[11:56] <Bitmastro> i could tell you it'll newbie friendly, but i can be biased
[11:57] <Bitmastro> just my 2 cents
[11:57] <daves> tna: i have been using MDK for @ 2yrs and just moved to ubuntu, apart from the new GUI (using KDE) and getting to learn new qurks of ubuntu i am not doing too badly with it
[11:57] <anacron> tna: i'd say it is
[11:57] <Seveas> tna, Ubuntu is suitable for newbies
[11:57] <daves> tna: thin kyou just have to get your feet wet and try it
[11:57] <poningru> tna: yes its an excellent noob distro
[11:58] <poningru> never tried anything but win
[11:58] <poningru> then tried ubuntu on recommendation of friend
[11:58] <poningru> yep its easy to configure etc.
[11:58] <poningru> even on a laptop
[11:58] <tna> k cool ty all :)
[11:59] <daves> tna: also find a local lug group in your area, this is only the 2nd time i've really done live chatting and have got some good info.
[11:59] <tna> k brb
[11:59] <anacron> ubuntu is good since its easy to noobs and also suitable for advanced users
[12:02] <mindspin> I installed it for testing purposes at a customers office and the people ther had no problems using it
[12:02] <tna> i was also wondering how much space i should allocate to ubuntu, i want to keep windows
[12:02] <tna> and
[12:02] <tna> my hard drive is 120gig
[12:02] <ateves> ok, what burning application do you use?
[12:02] <ateves> i can't find the right one
[12:03] <aleksi_> k3b is good for me
[12:03] <ateves> any gnome solutions?
[12:03] <anacron> tna: that depend's what do you wan't use linux for, you can access to your windows things with linux too, so watching movies and such a thing is possible
[12:03] <Bitmastro> gnomebaker... but k3b is the best imho
[12:04] <aleksi_> and it works just fine in gnome
[12:04] <ateves> yeah, i tested gnomebaker some days ago, but it took ages to encode mp3 files before burning them as an audio CD
[12:04] <Seveas> tna, 5GB for / and up to 1GB swap would do it
[12:04] <Seveas> but you can of course allocate more :)
[12:04] <anacron> how do i configure my no-ip tools so that it works?, i downloadet it with apt-get and it didn't ask any configurations
[12:06] <aleksi_> anacron: i can't remember but everything needed was on their website
[12:06] <aleksi_> I have no-ip on my ubuntu also
[12:07] <anacron> aleksi_: but did you install it with apt-get
[12:08] <topyli> anacron: ez-ipupdate might support no-ip too. i use it with dyndns though
[12:08] <daves> anyone tell me how to look inside a deb package ?
[12:08] <aleksi_> anacron: o, it might be i didn't
[12:08] <RQ> dh_unpack?
[12:08] <RQ> or sth
[12:08] <RQ> for that
[12:09] <anacron> topyli: well i'd like to use no-ip since i did get it working with debian
[12:09] <Seveas> anacron, how did you cinfig it ubder debian?
[12:09] <Seveas> daves, wit dpkg-deb or ar you can look inside it
[12:09] <Bitmastro> you can open it with right click.. mm archive manager (don't know if it's the right translation)
[12:09] <topyli> anacron: yep, i'm just saying that ez-ipupdate comes with ubuntu and you can configure it for different services
[12:09] <anacron> just downloaded the file and then make, make install and other compiling stuff and then it worked just fine
[12:10] <Seveas> anacron, well, if you didn't do any configuring under debian, you probably won't need any for Ubuntu too..
[12:10] <anacron> topyli: oh, so how do i run it
[12:10] <topyli> anacron: it's a service, starts at init
[12:11] <anacron> Seveas: how do i configure it then? just typing the name in console?
[12:11] <anacron> maybe i just try before asking stupid questions
[12:11] <topyli> anacron: debconf should configure it, asking a few questions
[12:11] <kolcvk> pplz can you help me ? why my ubuntu is so slow ?
[12:11] <kolcvk> i've got :
[12:11] <kolcvk> Celeron 1.2 GHz / 768 MB RAM / 240 GB HDD / 256 MB VGA
[12:11] <anacron> if ubuntu is slow then you have slow computer :D
[12:11] <tuxJr_14> hi
[12:12] <kolcvk> that's not slow PC
[12:12] <kolcvk> :)
[12:12] <Bitmastro> it shouldn't be so slow
[12:12] <tuxJr_14> even my ubuntu is slow
[12:12] <Seveas> kolcvk, then what is slow?
[12:12] <tuxJr_14> 512 Mb ram
[12:12] <tuxJr_14> 2.33 ghz pc
[12:12] <RQ> anacron, why not use ez-ipupdate?
[12:12] <tuxJr_14> *cpu
[12:12] <Bitmastro> open a console and do top
[12:12] <RQ> i've been using it personally. works.
[12:12] <kolcvk> maybe it need some specific progs ?
[12:12] <Bitmastro> which process are eating up cpu?
[12:12] <Seveas> anacron, /usr/local/bin/noip2 -C                 configure a client
[12:12] <Seveas> from the README
[12:13] <anacron> Seveas: i did try that, but when i do the config's it won't work
[12:13] <Seveas> try it as root
[12:13] <anacron> Seveas: i did
[12:13] <trevi> I'm on a Duron 950 and 128M, and ubuntu works great
[12:13] <anacron> Seveas: or, you mean like root, or sudo -s?
[12:13] <Seveas> kolcvk, tuxJr_14 'my pc is slow'  is a bad diagnostic... please be more specific....
[12:13] <daves> Seveas: do you know about a file that is need to be reomved from openoffice 2.0 106 ?
[12:14] <Seveas> daves, no
[12:14] <Seveas> anacron, doesn;t matter
[12:14] <Seveas> anacron, by the way NEVER use sudo -s
[12:14] <Seveas> use sudo -i instead
[12:14] <anacron> Seveas: why
[12:14] <anacron> Seveas: is that in sudo wiki?
[12:14] <Seveas> sudo -s does not reset HOME, USER etc...
[12:14] <kolcvk> hmm Seveas what exactly we need to paste ?
[12:14] <Seveas> may cause unexpected things to happen
[12:14] <tuxJr_14> Seveas, ubuntu is dead slow. dunno why
[12:14] <anacron> Seveas: okay
[12:15] <anacron> thanks for info
[12:15] <Seveas> kolcvk, just tell what exactly is slow, games, the gui, etc....
[12:15] <epiloc> Seveas, I use sudo -s all the time... what kind of 'unexpected' things might this cause?
[12:15] <kolcvk> gui
[12:15] <Seveas> tuxJr_14, paste the output of top -b -n1 on a pastebin
[12:15] <daves> Seveas: oh, thanks, will have a look inside it to see if i can see something that looks familiar.
[12:15] <anacron> my mini-itx is "slow
[12:15] <anacron> too, but i changed my theme and it work's a lot better now
[12:16] <kolcvk> yes it probably of MacOS theme ...
[12:16] <gusman> hey all
[12:16] <Seveas> kolcvk/tuxJr_14: sis you install a kernel specific to your system (ie: linux-686 for intel or linux-k7 for amd) and do you have a large enough swap?
[12:16] <gusman> what /dev is my raid under
[12:16] <gusman> ?
[12:16] <Seveas> kolcvk/tuxJr_14: have at least 768MB swap
[12:16] <Seveas> gusman, /dev/md* iirc
[12:17] <kolcvk> i have 2G's of swap
[12:17] <drcode> hi all
[12:17] <drcode> is there dc++ gui in linux
[12:17] <drcode> ?
[12:17] <marko4> Leave
[12:17] <Seveas> kolcvk, then do the top -b -n1 and show the output
[12:17] <Seveas> drcode, dcgui-qt (aka valknut)
[12:17] <Fidelio> can anybody please tell me how to specify a DHCP server to connect to in Hoary?
[12:17] <drcode> thanx
[12:18] <daves> drcode: why not try amule ?
[12:18] <marko4> quit
[12:18] <Seveas> marko4, try /quit
[12:18] <drcode> thanxc
[12:18] <drcode> I will
[12:18] <anacron> Fidelio: you can specify that in networks options
[12:18] <drcode> thanx
[12:18] <kolcvk> aaah its ok
[12:18] <kolcvk> it was just  file copying
[12:18] <kolcvk> but why copying from DVD is terribly slow ?
[12:19] <Seveas> kolcvk, enable dma to make that go faster and interfere less with the rest
[12:19] <Fidelio> I can specify to use DHCP, but I want to know where can I specify the address of actual dhcp server
[12:19] <Seveas> Fidelio, dhcp uses broadcasts
[12:19] <gusman> Seveas: should that display under fdisk if its installed?
[12:19] <Fidelio> ok, so where do I specify the broadcast address?
[12:19] <topyli> Fidelio: the server should advertise itself for your box
[12:19] <Seveas> gusman, don't know, but I think they don't...
[12:19] <gusman> using fdisk -l i only see sdb1 ,2 ,3
[12:20] <gusman> ok
[12:20] <Seveas> Fidelio, the broadcast address is fixed :)
[12:20] <gusman> cool
[12:20] <daves> got a 2nd hd with w2k on it, when i installed grub didn't pick it up so am unable to boot to it, any ideas ?
[12:20] <Fidelio> when I run dhclient3 I see the system looking for a DHCP server on all network interfaces but,
[12:20] <gusman> Seveas: what did u mean bye iirc?
[12:20] <Fidelio> it only looks at 255.255.255.255 port 67
[12:20] <Seveas> if i recall correctly
[12:20] <gusman> Seveas: /dev/md* iirc
[12:20] <gusman> you said
[12:21] <Seveas> Fidelio, that IS the broadcast address :)
[12:21] <Seveas> gusman, iirc is a well known abbreviation for 'if i recall correctly'
[12:21] <gusman> cool
[12:21] <gusman> thanks very much
[12:22] <Fidelio> OK, I'm confused
[12:22] <Fidelio> why then does my windows machine get a dhcp response, but not the ubuntu machine
[12:23] <anacron> Seveas: ah now no-ip thing works, i dunno what i did :D
[12:23] <Seveas> Fidelio, maybe the dhcp server ignores it
[12:23] <Fidelio> I'm pretty sure the wireless card is setup correctly as I've run quite a few tests on it
[12:23] <mindspin> Seveas: isn't the correct broadcast adress localnetwork.255 as 10.10.10.255 if your network address is 10.10.10.0 ?
[12:23] <topyli> anacron: no-ip.com probably just took some time to agree with your client
[12:23] <Seveas> Fidelio, does the output of iwconfig give you an Access point other than FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF
[12:24] <Seveas> mindspin, 255.255.255.255 is the global broadcast
[12:24] <mindspin> yes
[12:24] <Seveas> and since dhcp client does not know the network it must use a global broadcast :)
[12:24] <mindspin> ok
[12:25] <Fidelio> as far as I remember yes
[12:25] <Seveas> look at it
[12:25] <Seveas> it should look like what is posted at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/691
[12:25] <anacron> topyli: i don't think it's that, since i've been working this since yesterday
[12:26] <anacron> topyli: maybe it was some small thing in configuring
[12:26] <anacron> typo or so
[12:26] <carlos> Is there any guide that explains how to install Hoary from the network without a CD or a floppy disk?
[12:26] <Fidelio> seveas, I'll have to come back to you on that...
[12:26] <Seveas> carlos, yes
[12:26] <topyli> anacron: perhaps the moon phase just changed
[12:26] <Seveas> carlos, the LocalNetInstall page on the wiki
[12:26] <anacron> topyli: yeah, that must be it
[12:26] <carlos> Seveas, ok, thanks!
[12:27] <Seveas> carlos, I used that as inspiration to create an automated cluster install :)
[12:27] <jurgonh> Is there any  programs like DVD-shrink for Linux?
[12:27] <Rorviker> there aint no firewall in ubuntu ? got problem with both ftp and ssh, work local but not from the outside
[12:27] <anacron> jurgonh: check out what gnomefiles.com got for you
[12:27] <Nermal> jurgonh: acidrip ?
[12:27] <Nermal> !info acidrip
[12:27] <ubotu> acidrip: (ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.14-0.0 (hoary), Packaged size: 52 kB, Installed size: 268 kB
[12:28] <Nermal> note the multiverse
[12:29] <Seveas> Rorviker, there ar no firewalling rules installed by default
[12:29] <Seveas> is your machine behind a NAT router perhaps?
[12:29] <trevi> how do I desativate the minimize effect? It's awful...
[12:30] <Nermal> trevi: probably a key in gconf
[12:30] <Rorviker> Seveas: Yeah, behind a router, but I have forwarded the ports.
[12:31] <trevi> ok...I check
[12:32] <Seveas> Rorviker, also  for passice ftp..?
[12:32] <Seveas> that needs more than just port 21...
[12:32] <Rorviker> I know
[12:33] <Rorviker> there is no connection at all
[12:33] <Rorviker> I'm gonna move the server now so hope I can fix it
[12:33] <Rorviker> thx for the help .)
[12:34] <qt2> linux video streaming... suggestions? pointers? guides?
[12:34] <qt2> ;)
[12:35] <wrtpeeps> guys, do you think this would be useful to newcomers: http://wrtpeeps.stonerocket.net/bin/Ubuntu-minimal.txt
[12:36] <wrtpeeps> it's very simple, i was just curious is all :)
[12:36] <cap_> has anyone installed ubuntu-5 on a fujitsu/siemens lifebook s7020? or any other laptop with the new 915 graphic chipset?
[12:36] <brouillard> does anyone know when the firefox 1.0.6 package for ubuntu comes out?
[12:37] <topyli> perhaps in the next ubuntu release
[12:37] <brouillard> not earlier?
[12:38] <topyli> definitely not
[12:38] <Seveas> security patches will be backported to the current version
[12:38] <brouillard> but i thought there were security problems
[12:38] <brouillard> oh
[12:38] <jimcooncat> Good morning! How can I tell the options a package was compiled with, say I'd like to know what the "apache" package supports?
[12:38] <Seveas> but firefox developers are lazy so it's a lot of work for Ubuntu
[12:38] <Seveas> devs
[12:38] <brouillard> and that works with the normal system updates?
[12:38] <ptlo> maybe ubuntuforums backport repositories will get them earlier?
[12:38] <ptlo> s/them/firefox1.0.6/
[12:38] <Seveas> jimcooncat, apt-get source apache2 and read debian/rules :)
[12:39] <jimcooncat> thanks Seveas!!
[12:39] <anacron> seveas knows everything
[12:39] <Seveas> wrtpeeps, these instructions are crap!
[12:39] <topyli> ptlo: probably, but it's not necessary to use the backport
[12:40] <Seveas> wrtpeeps, first you make sources.list public writable and then you edit it as root, how foolish...
[12:40] <wrtpeeps> heh
[12:40] <wrtpeeps> ah
[12:41] <wrtpeeps> yea, i was told about that, meant to change it
[12:41] <wrtpeeps> Seveas: so they're crap cause of 1 mistake..
[12:41] <wrtpeeps> man you rule :/
[12:41] <Seveas> wrtpeeps, and install an *dm so you don't need startx
[12:41] <Seveas> wrtpeeps, ok, i overexaggerated :)
[12:42] <ptlo> topyli, *nod*; i'm using the backports because they've got some other intersting packets (not in the multiverse at all) which i'm too lazy to build myself (and why would i when the fine folks over there already did it:)
[12:42] <wrtpeeps> Seveas: hehe, anyway, i uploading a new version, changed that problem
[12:42] <topyli> ptlo: yep, backports-extras has genuinely useful packages
[12:43] <Seveas> topyli, yeah
[12:43] <Seveas> freenx!
[12:43] <wrtpeeps> Seveas: refresh it
[12:44] <Seveas> wrtpeeps, why aren't you installing xdm/gdm/kdm/whatever *dm?
[12:44] <hondje> entrace doesn't have a dm
[12:45] <hondje> maybe raster should rename it edm
[12:45] <IIIEars> Is there a command to mount all available drives?
[12:45] <Flying-Penguin> hello guys I need help,OK, I am using a microsoft intellimouse explorer 2.0 wireless, witch has side scrolling and back and foword buttons, in an atemp to make theas buttons work  I found this website http://blog.blackdown.de/2005/03/01/tilt-wheel-mouse/
[12:45] <Seveas> IIIEars, if you have them in fstab: mount -a
[12:46] <Flying-Penguin> right now I am only trying to do the xorg.conf stuff, then I will move on to the next step,this is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/18118now I = dumb with linux, so i didn't realy know what to do, when I saw this I thought this should work for xorg, and it said what to put in my mouse section so I deleted my mouse section and put that in... and X wouldn't start
[12:46] <hondje> unless they're set noauto
[12:46] <IIIEars> Seveas - Thank You :)
[12:46] <Seveas> hondje, true
[12:46] <Flying-Penguin> this is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/18118*
[12:46] <Flying-Penguin> can anyone help me?
[12:47] <wrtpeeps> Seveas: i am going to add that
[12:47] <wrtpeeps> you mean the graphical login thing?
[12:47] <hondje> those links don't work
[12:47] <Flying-Penguin> arg that web site agen is http://pastebin.ca/18118 (and this time it doesn't have anything that I forgot to put a space on)
[12:47] <Seveas> wrtpeeps, yes
[12:47] <wrtpeeps> yea, GDM, i am going to add that
[12:48] <hondje> that doesn't look like ubuntu's xorg.conf
[12:48] <Flying-Penguin> I used fglrxconfig... I have an ATI
[12:49] <hondje> should probably uncomment some of the modelines
[12:50] <hondje> oh, there they are
[12:51] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: ???
[12:52] <mridle> i have a real weird error, downloads stalls when i use apt-get
[12:53] <mridle> have to abort apt and try again (luckily apt-get resumes)
[12:53] <mridle> anyone heard of something similar?
[12:54] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: uncomment what?
[12:54] <Oddie0101> hi all
[12:54] <hondje> nothing, I didn't scroll down far enough
[12:54] <hondje> I can't see what's wrong, probably because I've never set up an ATI in my life :)
[12:55] <Oddie0101> im going crazy here can anyone help me with an installation of a wireless pcmcia card?
[12:55] <Flying-Penguin> no see... I am in x right now so nuthing is wrong with that config hondje
[12:55] <hondje> I don't see why the load modules is uncommented, but I bet there's a reason
[12:55] <hondje> oh, then what were you asking?
[12:55] <Flying-Penguin> but I am having problem following this http://blog.blackdown.de/2005/03/01/tilt-wheel-mouse/
[12:56] <hondje> oh
[12:56] <hondje> you said X wouldn't start, I ran from there
[12:56] <rommer> i have a couple of identical computers that i am looking to turn into a cluster using ubuntu linux, anyone have an idea on how to do this
[12:57] <hondje> what kind of cluster?
[12:57] <Oddie0101> no body.....?
[12:57] <Oddie0101> that sounds cool rommer
[12:57] <Flying-Penguin> sorry to have typed so much hondje, but I was saying X wouldn't start after I pasted in the first step as my mouse section
[12:57] <cap_> rommer, whats your goal?
[12:58] <Poromies> uh oh, guys, I have a problem with kernel-restricted-modules and Synaptic
[12:59] <Poromies> when i try to dl&install restricted modules with synaptic, it says that they have unmet dependencies
[12:59] <Seveas> Poromies, which version of Ubuntu?
[12:59] <Poromies> "Riippuvuudet: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-3-amd64-k8  but it is not installable"
[12:59] <Seveas> rommer, I just did such a setup
[12:59] <Seveas> rommer, I'm documenting it on the wiki (UbuntuOnCluster)
[12:59] <topyli> Poromies: ubuntu doesn't have a "kernel". it has a "linux". you're confusing debian packages with ubuntu's
[12:59] <hondje> Flying-Penguin: did /var/log/Xorg.0.log give you any useful errors?
[12:59] <Seveas> but it's pretty inclomplete right now
[01:00] <hondje> the starfish knows all
[01:00] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: I don't even know what that is... I am way a linux nub
[01:00] <Seveas> Poromies, breezy has NO restricted modules yet
[01:00] <Poromies> Riippuvuudet=Dependecies
[01:00] <Poromies> crap :(
[01:00] <hondje> Flying-Penguin: ah, well then in a terminal run 'sudo gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log' and look for error messages (usually near the end, with (EE) in front)
[01:00] <Seveas> Poromies, you should not yet use Breezy anyway :)
[01:01] <Poromies> well humm.. i do need restricted modules to get ATI drivers working, or do I?
[01:01] <IIIEars> Seveas - Do you have that phrase aliased to a single key? - grin
[01:01] <Seveas> rommer, for the fglrx driver: yes
[01:01] <Seveas> IIIEars, no :)
[01:02] <Seveas> Poromies, for the fglrx driver: yes
[01:02] <hondje> there's enough?
[01:02] <Seveas> rommer, when are you planning to create your cluster, I will finalize my documentation this week or next week
[01:03] <IIIEars> << Faxes Seveas a cup.
[01:03] <hondje> so many types of clusters :-/
[01:03] <topyli> Seveas: install coffee.el for your emacs
[01:03] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: I didn't realy see any, but I went through it kinda fast... if you wana look here it is http://pastebin.ca/18119
[01:03] <IIIEars> <<- likes chocolate covered peanut clusters.. - lol
[01:04] <Seveas> topyli, emacs leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering
[01:04] <IIIEars> heh
[01:04] <hondje> plus it sucks
[01:04] <topyli> Seveas: nevertheless, it's the only editor with a coffee maker extension :)
[01:05] <IIIEars> roflmao
[01:05] <Seveas> so useless
[01:05] <gusman> can someone tell me can if mount a raid array that was made for windows xp
[01:05] <Seveas> like 99% of emacs :)
[01:05] <gusman> that is ntfs
[01:05] <gusman> or if it was fat even
[01:05] <deFrysk> Seveas, suffering leads to heaven ;p
[01:05] <Seveas> mount -t vfat /dev/your_raid_array /mnt/wherever
[01:06] <Seveas> if it is harware raid of course :)
[01:06] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: how would you put in the first step on that mouse help website? I am prity sure you can reply to the paste on that pastebin
[01:07] <N00b_Jurgonh> I have a External USB - HDD, i can read from it but not write to it, i dont have the authotity.. how do i change this?
[01:07] <IIIEars> vfat and raid? no journaing filesystem?
[01:07] <gusman> Seveas: is reall hardware raid like allway gona work on linux?
[01:07] <hondje> Flying-Penguin: try Xorg.1.log
[01:07] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: ok
[01:08] <Seveas> gusman, if you have drivers for your raid controller: i guess so
[01:08] <Seveas> but my experience with this is very limited
[01:08] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: its blan... meaing the file doesn't egsist I think
[01:08] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: exist*
[01:08] <nilsl> Another videoplayer than mplayer?
[01:09] <anacron> nilsL: vlc
[01:09] <IIIEars> vlc is very nice and crossplatform
[01:09] <IIIEars> !dvd
[01:09] <ubotu> hmm... dvd is There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem
[01:09] <topyli> nilsL: xine and its various frontend options
[01:09] <nilsL> anacron: Ok.
[01:10] <nilsL> topyli: Ok.
[01:10] <nilsL> Thx. :-)
[01:10] <gusman> Seveas: if you had hard ware raid would you need drivers?
[01:10] <gusman> Seveas: I thought you wouldn't
[01:10] <Seveas> gusman, most likely
[01:10] <Seveas> all hardware needs drivers
[01:10] <basti> wtf? xmms just stopped playing mp3s when I installed linuxheaders for my kernel?
[01:11] <Seveas> it's just that most are available by default :)
[01:11] <TheNeXuS> moin
[01:11] <hondje> Flying-Penguin: change the lines in Xorg.conf like you did, then ctrl-alt-bckspace to restart X.  Then, if it doesn't come back up, press ctrl-alt-f1 to get a tty, and log in. Then, run 'cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log xorglog' and come back here
[01:11] <gusman> hmmm
[01:11] <topyli> another thunderstorm goes by, i'm still up and running :)
[01:11] <basti> someone could give me a better suggestion instead of xmms ?
[01:11] <hondje> beep media player
[01:11] <Seveas> beep rocks
[01:12] <basti> k :) gonna try it
[01:12] <hondje> like xmms, but not ancient :)
[01:12] <Seveas> or muine
[01:12] <topyli> basti: almost any player :)
[01:12] <basti> sounds good
[01:12] <gusman> Seveas, well its sillian vally onbord raid on a lan party mobo and it is set up in the bios
[01:12] <deFrysk> whats wrong with xmms ?
[01:12] <hondje> it's ugly
[01:12] <deFrysk> hondje, get a propeer skin
[01:12] <N00b_Jurgonh> I have a External USB HD, i cant download anything to it or change anything on it, it is read-only.. i cant change it either.. what to do?
[01:12] <topyli> deFrysk: the interface is unusable and looks bad
[01:12] <deFrysk> proper
[01:13] <deFrysk> topyli, never had any probs
[01:13] <hondje> the skin can't change the evil that is gtk1
[01:13] <Seveas> propers skins won't help there
[01:13] <Seveas> crappy gtk1 menus
[01:13] <anacron> i think xmms is making that what it should do, play mp3 and other music files.
[01:13] <deFrysk> xmms is better supported then beep
[01:13] <IIIEars> jurgonh - iswhat type of file system is the disk?
[01:13] <topyli> deFrysk: well, i used xmms for years, it works of course. there's just so many better options now
[01:13] <mridle> rythmbox aint all that bad
[01:13] <hondje> Yes, but it's still ugly
[01:13] <hondje> xmms2 might be better
[01:14] <Seveas> deFrysk, lots of things for xmms work on beep :)
[01:14] <deFrysk> rythmbox is fine too yes
[01:14] <Seveas> including the Ubuntu skin :)
[01:15] <topyli> deFrysk: persistence is a virtue :)
[01:15] <Seveas> or a curse ;)
[01:15] <deFrysk> topyli, true true ;p
[01:15] <deFrysk> Seveas, also true
[01:16] <basti> this is insane I cannot play mp3s in any player!?
[01:16] <hondje> !tell basti about restricted
[01:16] <hondje> does the bot use notice yet?
[01:16] <basti> well he told me :P
[01:17] <hondje> in a msg or a notice?
[01:17] <mridle> !tell mridle about restricted
[01:17] <Bitmastro> anyone heard of ubuntulite?
[01:17] <basti> in a priv msg
[01:17] <hondje> !tell hondje about restricted
[01:17] <mridle> pm
[01:17] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: sorry i was afk are you still there?\
[01:18] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin, no she just left :)
[01:18] <Seveas> (and yes I know hondje is not female :p)
[01:18] <mridle> she isnt?!?
[01:18] <hondje> :(
[01:18] <hondje> Yes, I'm here
[01:19] <hondje> And still male :p
[01:19] <Flying-Penguin> :P
[01:19] <topyli> so all is well
[01:19] <Flying-Penguin> ok so by change you mean delete all fo Pointer's InputDevice section
[01:19] <hondje> nah, just comment it out with #'s and add that stuff you found
[01:20] <Flying-Penguin> and put in   Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver     "mouse" Option  ..... AxisMapping"    "8 9 6 7"  Option     "Emulate3Buttons" "false"
[01:22] <hondje> and then edit Xmodmap
[01:22] <hondje> like that site said
[01:22] <Linforcer> Hey, I think I left my jacket in this/ channel.
[01:22] <Linforcer> Anybody seen it?
[01:22] <Linforcer> it's like.. denim
[01:22] <hondje> Did you check #debian?
[01:22] <Linforcer> hmmm
[01:23] <Linforcer> you have int don't you?
[01:23] <ubuntudriftfast1> hondje your addicted to the irc arent ya?
[01:23] <Linforcer> trying to get me to leave eh
[01:23] <Linforcer> so you can STEAAAL IT
[01:23] <hondje> No, I'm forced to be up all night
[01:23] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: how do I edit Xmodmap?
[01:23] <hondje> just like you edit xorg.conf
[01:23] <ubuntudriftfast1> hondje why the caffeine?
[01:23] <Linforcer> nuuuuuuu!
[01:24] <Linforcer> my jacket!
[01:24] <Linforcer> I need it
[01:24] <mridle> this is so f*cked up.. my dvd-burner stopped working in windows, but works in ubuntu... :)
[01:24] <Linforcer> I'm leaving for Spain in 20 minutes
[01:24] <hondje> ubuntudriftfast1: work
[01:24] <Linforcer> :D
[01:24] <mridle> however, my network is unstable in linux...
[01:24] <ubuntudriftfast1> hondje what do you do?
[01:24] <topyli> Linforcer: perhaps it founded its own channel... #denim-fetish or something
[01:24] <hondje> make pretty pictures, normally
[01:24] <mridle> large downloads stalls&aborts.. anyone know *anything* about that sort of behaviour?
[01:24] <Linforcer> xD
[01:24] <hondje> tonight I'm sitting here talking in #ubuntu, in case something happens
[01:25] <hondje> like, a phone ringing
[01:25] <ubuntudriftfast1> i mean what kinda job
[01:25] <Linforcer> hondje hhas a job as a guard dog
[01:25] <Linforcer> that's why he's "hondje"
[01:25] <hondje> guard puppy :)
[01:25] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: what if there is no Xmodmap in /etc/X11/?
[01:25] <Linforcer> ya
[01:25] <hondje> Flying-Penguin: then make it :)
[01:25] <ubuntudriftfast1> easy enough
[01:25] <hondje> edit it, and save it
[01:25] <hondje> I odn't know what kind of job I have
[01:25] <hondje> a boring one?
[01:26] <nilsL> I got all the xine-things from synaptic installed, but where's the player?
[01:26] <hondje> great, supposed to be 108 today :(
[01:26] <topyli> nilsL: you need a frontedn. xine-ui or totem-xine or something
[01:27] <topyli> frontend even
[01:27] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: should it be anything like .conf or just no .
[01:27] <nilsL> topyli: Ok.
[01:27] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: make that no .(something)
[01:27] <hondje> Just Xmodmap
[01:27] <Flying-Penguin> ok
[01:27] <Flying-Penguin> ty
[01:27] <hondje> extensions are for convenience, linux uses magic numbers
[01:28] <topyli> extensions are for dumb systems that don't know a file from a device :)
[01:28] <hondje> I was trying to be nice :)
[01:28] <topyli> heh
[01:29] <Flying-Penguin> LOL ok brb I am going to restart X
[01:29] <hmrocha> Hello, anyone here uses xchm?
[01:30] <basti> this pisses me off; normally in default install I could play mp3 from scratch in xmms and now I cant?
[01:31] <basti> anyone wanna remote me through vnc?
[01:31] <hmrocha> basti, install gstreamer0.8-mad and use rhythmbox to listen to mp3
[01:31] <basti> I did it!!!
[01:31] <basti> but I dont wanna use rhytmbox
[01:31] <Whistler> mantass swx
[01:31] <hmrocha> hondje, a program to read microsoft's chm document format
[01:31] <topyli> basti: free systems don't play non-free stuff before you add non-free codecs
[01:31] <hmrocha> basti, use muine then
[01:32] <hmrocha> basti, (xmms sucks)
[01:32] <basti> k gonna try
[01:32] <hondje> I don't even know what a chm is, so no clue :)
[01:32] <hmrocha> basti, i don't know if muine is already in hoary's ports
[01:32] <mantass> Whistler: labas
[01:32] <basti> it is
[01:32] <hmrocha> basti, ok, muine is a great player
[01:32] <basti> apting it now
[01:33] <Flying-Penguin> ok
[01:33] <Flying-Penguin> I did what you asked... and X didn't start so I ran that command
[01:33] <Whistler> how do i restart gnome panels?
[01:33] <Flying-Penguin> now what hondje?
[01:33] <hmrocha> Whistler, open a terminal and execute "killall gnome-panel" i think
[01:33] <hondje> upload that xorglog thing you made with cp to pastebin
[01:34] <hmrocha> hondje, it's just a document format
[01:34] <mantass> Whistler: updating X'us ish breezy ir nereiks gnome paneliu :)
[01:34] <hmrocha> hondje, proprietary i think
[01:34] <Whistler> mantass kaip suprast?
[01:35] <hondje> ah, google says 'This is documentation on the .chm format used by Microsoft HTML Help'
[01:35] <hondje> why would you need one of those in linux?
[01:35] <hmrocha> hondje, i have a document in chm format that i need to print, i use xchm to read it
[01:35] <hmrocha> hondje, i just want to print a chapter, but i think i can only print all pages or page x to y
[01:36] <hmrocha> and this document doesn't tell me the page i'm in! :(
[01:36] <hondje> No clue man, sorry
[01:36] <hmrocha> hondje, no problem
[01:36] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: http://pastebin.ca/18121
[01:38] <hondje> Flying-Penguin: post your xorg.conf again
[01:38] <hondje> I think you have mismatched names in there
[01:38] <Flying-Penguin> I restarted x... I don't have it
[01:38] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: hold on let me re pastbin it
[01:39] <ed1t> Flying-Penguin, use generic mouse drivers
[01:40] <Flying-Penguin> ed1t: by generic you mean?
[01:40] <ed1t> Flying-Penguin, wa kinda mouse is it? PS/2?
[01:41] <Flying-Penguin> ed1t: it is ps/2... but it has 5 buttons pluse side to side scrolling
[01:41] <ed1t> hmmm
[01:41] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: here is my current xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/18122
[01:42] <IIIEars> Flying-Penguin - likely there is a fix out there somone has that mouse and linux - give the model name and i will test my google skills for a solution for you.
[01:42] <hondje> (EE) Mouse1: cannot open input device
[01:43] <hondje> That's because the mouse is named mouse1 later on
[01:43] <hondje> but you're putting in that other one
[01:43] <hondje> on line 544
[01:43] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: this is my xorg.conf after I changed it, this is what I did when it woudn't start http://pastebin.ca/18123
[01:43] <abarbaccia> hey - i have a rio carbon MP3 player and when i plug it in ubuntu mounts it like a removable drive.  I put a song on it -but only the song name appears, with no data in the file (0 bytes) any ideas?
[01:43] <J_P> hi all
[01:43] <tvoss> all: Get the humility-icon-theme here: http://andy.fitzsimon.com.au/humility-icons.tar.bz2
[01:43] <Flying-Penguin> ok IIIEars let me type it
[01:44] <Flying-Penguin> IIIEars: its a Wireless IntelliMouse Explorer 2.0        model:1007
[01:44] <ed1t> Flying-Penguin, also add Option "CorePointer" in mouse
[01:45] <J_P> people, not have package flashplugin in ubuntu ?
[01:45] <IIIEars> http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/xfree/mouse/ - kinda vague. but still looking.
[01:45] <hondje> flashplugin-nonfree is in multiverse
[01:45] <ed1t> i got a microsoft wireless mouse...it works perfect under the same settings as u
[01:46] <IIIEars> edlt - how many buttons does your mouse have?
[01:46] <ed1t> 2 and scroll bar
[01:46] <ed1t> scroll*
[01:46] <basti> omg.. that muine player sucked =(
[01:46] <ed1t> basti, ?
[01:46] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: "that's because the mouse is named Mouse1 later on" as you see on line 255 of the original 'Identifier  "Mouse1"' so when I copyed in Identifier "Configured Mouse" I changed it to "Mouse1"
[01:46] <basti> muine media player...
[01:47] <basti> blows :S
[01:47] <ValheruLord> grub-install (hd0,0)
[01:47] <ValheruLord>  why is this not working
[01:47] <ed1t> basti, lol use media player
[01:47] <ValheruLord> it says syntax error
[01:47] <basti> hmrocha told me it was a good one lol
[01:47] <ed1t> rhythmbox
[01:47] <Flying-Penguin> IIIEars: well it has the two normal buttons (2) a scrool weal (2) pushing down the scrool weal (1) the two side buttons (2) and left and right scrool (2) so thats 9 I think
[01:48] <ed1t> rythmbox is good
[01:48] <basti> its too big imo =/
[01:48] <basti> and not sxinnable
[01:48] <ed1t> have u tried xmms?
[01:48] <ed1t> xmms is compac
[01:48] <ed1t> compact
[01:49] <basti> yeah. but it bugs for me dunno why.. I cannot play mp3s in it. it just freezes
[01:49] <ed1t> basti, same thing happens to me
[01:49] <ed1t> heh
[01:49] <basti> really?
[01:49] <Flying-Penguin> basti: you can't play mp3s because you have to install a plugin
[01:49] <ed1t> basti, yea gstreamer9
[01:49] <ed1t> err
[01:49] <ed1t> 8
[01:49] <ed1t> basti, yea gstreamer8
[01:50] <Flying-Penguin> ed1t: why "also add Option "CorePointer" in mouse"
[01:50] <ed1t> !info gstreamer8
[01:50] <Flying-Penguin> IIIEars: did you get that?
[01:50] <basti> hmm
[01:50] <Flying-Penguin> hondje: you still there?
[01:50] <ed1t> !info gstreamer8.9
[01:50] <ed1t> !info gstreamer8.0
[01:50] <basti> gstreamer0.8-mad package ?
[01:51] <basti> I got it alrdy. still freezes
[01:51] <Flying-Penguin> you know what
[01:51] <ed1t> Flying-Penguin, coz u have CorePointer defined in line 544
[01:51] <ed1t> InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
[01:51] <Flying-Penguin> now that I think abought it my xmms freezes everyonce and awile (abought 12 songs) when on random
[01:51] <Flying-Penguin> must be something abought your songs
[01:52] <Flying-Penguin> for instance in windows I cant listen to some of my songs unless I go download the licence for them... (wma's) I think most are
[01:52] <scena> I have a quick question about routing. Can someone help?
[01:53] <ed1t> scena, just ask
[01:54] <Flying-Penguin> is everyone done helping me?
[01:54] <Shorty`> Flying-Penguin, I think so
[01:54] <Shorty`> Next please
[01:54] <Shorty`> :>
[01:54] <scena> Ok. :) I'd like to use Ubuntu as a router. I just need it to route between two specific IP ranges (12.XX.XX.XX and 10.100.104.XX). Do I need to install any complex routing software, or can I get away with adding static routes to the network cards?
[01:54] <Flying-Penguin> :*( thats not good considering that my problem isn't fixed
[01:54] <IIIEars> Flying-Penguin - linux will recognize all of your mouse buttons. How do you assign them to a function in firefox?
[01:54] <Shorty`> scena, you should be fine with static routing.
[01:55] <hussam> what PCMCIA wifi cards are supported by kernel 2.6 without ndiswrapper or any 3rd party driver?
[01:55] <qt2> linux video streaming... suggestions? pointers? guides?
[01:55] <scena> Shorty': Ok, then mynext question is which start up script would I place the route commands?
[01:55] <Shorty`> hussam, check the kernel stuff?
[01:55] <ksyms> Where is the grub config file located?
[01:55] <Shorty`> vim /etc/network/interfaces
[01:55] <Shorty`> :)
[01:55] <scena> shorty': sweetness. i was looking in the wrong place. :)
[01:55] <Flying-Penguin> IIIEars: how do I assign them in firefox then?
[01:56] <Shorty`> nw :)
[01:56] <Shorty`> dinner time :>
[01:56] <IIIEars> Yes. - nothing in firefox to add mouse functions
[01:57] <ed1t> hussam, i got Intel 100/1000 Pro Wireless card, it works perfect
[01:57] <ed1t> i didnt had to download/install any drivers
[01:57] <scena> Whoa, that interface file isn't what I was expecting to see. Is there a special way to add static routes?
[01:57] <J_P> people, what package I install for look web pages with flash ?
[01:57] <hussam> ed1t: without ndiswrapper, right?
[01:58] <ed1t> 2196 a/b/g
[01:58] <ed1t> 2195 a/b/g
[01:58] <Flying-Penguin> ohh btw IIIEars if linux recognizes all my mouse buttons... why does my mouse button 4 go down as mouse button 3 and mouse button 5 go down as mouse button 2??
[01:58] <ed1t> hussam, yea
[01:58] <ksyms> Should we have a /etc/grub/grub.conf?
[01:58] <ksyms> i mean, should't we?
[01:58] <qt2> Flying-Penguin, xmodmap.
[01:58] <Flying-Penguin> qt2: what is xmodmap?
[01:59] <qt2> you can use it to map your mouse buttons.
[01:59] <Flying-Penguin> qt2: but if linux doesn't see my mouse button 456789 how can it map them?
[02:00] <qt2> Flying-Penguin, add a line to xorg.conf...
[02:00] <IIIEars> http://www.mepis.org/node/5663 http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/2004-December/017321.html -
[02:00] <qt2> what mouse do you have?
[02:00] <ksyms>  /boot/grub/menu.lst right?
[02:00] <ed1t> ksyms, yes
[02:01] <qt2> Flying-Penguin, what mouse do you have?
[02:01] <ed1t> ksyms, wat about it?
[02:01] <ksyms> ed1t, i was trying to find it at /etc/grub/grub.conf
[02:01] <ed1t> ksyms, ooo
[02:01] <Flying-Penguin> qt2: I have the microsoft Wireless IntelliMouse Explorer 2.0
[02:02] <ed1t> brb
[02:02] <scena> Do you really place static routes in the /etc/network/interface file?
[02:03] <Flying-Penguin> IIIEars: thank you I will take a look at that
[02:03] <ksyms> ed1t\work, never used grub, should I edit this file, I've just compiled my kernel?
[02:04] <IIIEars> scena - "Bastille" Take a peek at it a graphical configuration tool for your firewall. - don't think firestarter will do it for you. :/
[02:04] <qt2> Flying-Penguin, bluetooth version?
[02:05] <Flying-Penguin> qt2: yup
[02:05] <ed1t\work> ksyms, wat u need to edit it for?
[02:06] <ed1t\work> ksyms, sudo grub-update or update-grub
[02:06] <ed1t\work> i dont remember
[02:06] <Fidelio> what does mode managed mean on a wifi connection?
[02:06] <ed1t\work> yep its update-grub
[02:06] <ksyms> ed1t\work, yeah, i was looking at the manpage, update-grub. Nice.
[02:06] <ksyms> ed1t\work, the default install of 5.0.4 didn't recognized my sound blaster live 7.1 24bit
[02:07] <qt2> Flying-Penguin, mind if i pm you?
[02:07] <ed1t\work> ksyms, that will automatically update the menu.lst for u
[02:07] <ksyms> ed1t\work, had to compile the kernel to set it.
[02:07] <ed1t\work> ooo
[02:08] <Flying-Penguin> qt2: no not at all
[02:08] <Fidelio> anybody?
[02:12] <Whistler> is it possible to stop download and continue it later when i am using apt-get
[02:12] <Whistler> ?
[02:12] <bimberi> Whistler: yes
[02:12] <Whistler> how can i do this?
[02:12] <bimberi> Whistler: <ctrl>C
[02:12] <J_P> ubuntu package of the packges from sid right ?
[02:13] <Whistler> and how do i continue?
[02:13] <ColonelKernel> J_P are they? I didnt know that
[02:13] <bimberi> Whistler: just re-run the same apt-get command
[02:14] <Whistler> oh yeah thx a lot
[02:14] <Whistler> =] 
[02:14] <warty> Hi, I need a win xp sp2 serial...
[02:14] <samu> any idea why i get an illegal instruction error when trying to run mplayer?
[02:15] <bimberi> Whistler: np :)
[02:15] <samu> i apt-get the mplayer-custom package
[02:16] <flipy> warty: weird channel to ask it...
[02:16] <Whistler> :)
[02:16] <scena> Ok, so with the 'up' option in the 'interfaces' file, I can issue any command I like, correct?
[02:16] <bimberi> perhaps it's the nick :)
[02:17] <chucky_> heres an interesting one for ya, I just bought myself a new dual core intel chip.... and of course most of the h/w isnt yet supported ;p
[02:18] <warty> flipy, i need to reinstall my win partition, and... well... I am using ubuntu right now... Well, its not an excuse, but...hmmm... ok!!! Does anyone have an easy serial to help me?
[02:18] <Tsar_vonHumbug> flipy, mebbe warty has a highly attuned sense of irony ;)
[02:18] <chucky_> I kinda need to get it working a bit better with ubuntu, would the latest kernel ( dangerous I know ) be the right way to move?
[02:18] <Tsar_vonHumbug> nope, apparently not :p
[02:19] <IIIEars> Qtparted shows 38gigabytes for a 40 gigabyte disk. - is there something wrong?
[02:19] <flipy> warty: well, you can always ask Google, he knows everything
[02:19] <flipy> IIIEars: is a fat partition?
[02:20] <IIIEars> empty - zeroed out using dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb
[02:20] <chucky_> I'm thinking of installing 2.6.11 SMP good or bad idea?
[02:20] <warty> Ok, haha, thanks anyway.... I love ubuntu, but my parents wont live w/o win... i`m going to search, tks hehe... bye bye
[02:20] <flipy> chucky_: ubuntu-2.6.11?
[02:20] <concept10> chucky_, do you have 2 or more processors or an HT enabled processor?
[02:20] <chucky_> kernel 2.6.11
[02:21] <chucky_> I have one of those new pentium D processors
[02:21] <chucky_> dual core
[02:21] <IIIEars> flipy - could it be zeroed with an unusual cluster size even without a parttion table?
[02:21] <maswan> IIIEars: disk manufacturers count a gigabyte as 1000000000 bytes, but software counts a gigabyte as 1073741824 bytes
[02:21] <flipy> IIIEars: yes
[02:21] <concept10> it cant hurt to try it, just dotn delete old kernel
[02:21] <IIIEars> maswan - Oops! "Marketing" - roflmao.
[02:21] <flipy> IIIEars: try to run hdd regenerator
[02:22] <Tsar_vonHumbug> IIIEars, that's user space - there's some slack allowed usable only by root
[02:22] <maswan> IIIEars: this would mean that a disk labled 40 gigabytes would end up as 37-38 gigabytes as reported by partitioning tools and other software
[02:22] <concept10> IIIEars, you knew that already
[02:22] <flipy> IIIEars: look at p2p for hiren's boot cd 7.0
[02:22] <chucky_> hehe i'll give it a go.... i'm used to using far more conservative hw with linux
[02:22] <chucky_> so linux on the desktop with new h/w is new to me
[02:22] <IIIEars> flipy - hdd regenerator? - thats news? do you have a link?
[02:22] <flipy> IIIEars: http://www.dposoft.net/
[02:23] <IIIEars> Terrific! - Thank You. :)
[02:23] <flipy> IIIEars: I was having issues with a old 30 Gb 2.5'' hdd
[02:23] <flipy> IIIEars: linux saw it as 20Gb
[02:24] <J_P> In debian is "apt-cache search kernel-source" for get souces of kernel, and in ubuntu ?
[02:24] <flipy> IIIEars: after running hdd regenerator (it takes a lot of time to run) everything was fine again
[02:24] <Tsar_vonHumbug> IIIEars, see man mke2fs option -m - I quote " -m reserved-blocks-percentage
[02:24] <Tsar_vonHumbug>               Specify the percentage of the filesystem blocks reserved for the
[02:24] <Tsar_vonHumbug>               super-user.  This value defaults to 5%.
[02:24] <Tsar_vonHumbug> "
[02:24] <IIIEars> heh - "issues" - yep familiar with it. (got the T-Shirt and matching cap. too many windows rformat/fdisking)
[02:24] <bimberi> J_P: linux-source
[02:24] <Tsar_vonHumbug> and 5% of 40gig = 2gig
[02:25] <J_P> bimberi: Exist anyone manual with diferences between use debian and ubuntu, as this for example of the get kernels etc ?
[02:25] <flipy> I've set up an apache server in my home server, and I've installed mysql and php, but if I make the testphp.php and try to load it, it tries to download the file, not run it. What's the problem?
[02:25] <bimberi> J_P: not that i know of
[02:26] <J_P> bimberi: beouse I am change debian for ubuntu in servers and i need know what are diferenes..
[02:26] <J_P> only simply manual for ubuntu
[02:26] <Flying-Penguin> HELLO GUYS I am back ;)
[02:28] <mridle> flipy:  seems you failed to install the php module
[02:28] <flipy> uhmn
[02:28] <flipy> it is installed
[02:29] <bimberi> J_P: There is this - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/relationship/document_view
[02:30] <mridle> flipy:  restarted apache?
[02:31] <flipy> yes
[02:32] <flipy> restarted, reinstalled
[02:32] <bimberi> J_P: ... but it's mostly philosophical - can't find much that's technical
[02:32] <flipy> I can see the default page for apache debian
[02:32] <scena> I added route commands to my interfaces file, but they aren't being picked up on boot.
[02:33] <scena> ive got an IP of 10.100.104.X on eth1 and 12.19.195.X on eth0. in eth1, i added: up route add -net 12.19.195.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0 . But it didn't work. Did I do something incorrect?
[02:36] <scena> Did i issue the up command incorrectly, or is that not what you do?
[02:37] <adwait> hey......can anyone help me with crontab? i used crontab -e to setup a few jobs.....but they just dont run
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> do htey give an error?
[02:38] <bojangles> wow this is some comment:
[02:39] <ateves> hi! is there a way to resize the startmenu button so that it is not 128x128 but 256x128?
[02:39] <bojangles> "Once both residential broadband ISPs in your area adopt a policy of giving you an IP address only if your router and all computers connected to it are "trusted", Linux without DRM won't be worth much."
[02:40] <scena> whats the URL for the support forums for ubuntu?
[02:40] <Nermal> ubuntuforums.org
[02:40] <scena> thnx
[02:40] <Tomcat_> ISPs won't even cut out people with viruses, spam mailers or anything... why would they shut out non-Trusted Platforms. :P
[02:41] <bojangles> "You won't be able to decrypt and use any of the new files formats. You won't be able to install/register/decrypt any of the new software. You will get increasingly locked out of websites. In a short time, the Trusted Computer Group's Network Connect System may deny you any internet access at all."
[02:41] <Tomcat_> That was exactly like I thought some years ago.
[02:41] <adwait> hey......can anyone help me with crontab? i used crontab -e to setup a few jobs.....but they just dont run
[02:41] <IIIEars> ateves - odd isn't it the other icons on the bar resize auto-magically. - i wonder if replacing the gnome foot *.png with a larger one would do it? Bar >> Properties >> size
[02:41] <Tomcat_> Now that TC is there but is not getting used anywhere, I highly doubt it will ever have any leverage.
[02:41] <rob_cowie> hi there.... Is this the right place to ask a few questions about installing packages (Specifically apache) on a machine with no net access
[02:42] <ateves> just replacing does not work, it's sized to 128x128 automatically
[02:42] <bojangles> "The generously give you a choice. You can voluntarily "opt-in" to using the Trust system and submit to wearing a pair of handcuffs in public, or you can crawl live as free as you like locked inside a virtual prison cell cut off from everyone else and everything else."
[02:42] <adwait> rob_cowie: try.........
[02:42] <bojangles> "A chained member of society, or free inside a prison cell"
[02:42] <bojangles> that sure doen't sound good and doesn't leave anybody much choice.
[02:43] <rob_cowie> anyone?
[02:43] <IIIEars> read the article - CELL processors. - not terribly nice - good reading at theregister.org
[02:43] <rorry> can I change some settings so when I do apt-get it dosnt tell me to insert the Ubuntu cd but download the package from internet ?
[02:43] <bojangles> i say fuck these god-damned rich Jews and their nigger friends straight into HELLLLLLL.....where they belong
[02:44] <J_P> bimberi:exist anyone tecnical manual for ubuntu ?
[02:44] <IIIEars> heh - online we are all white and protestants?
[02:44] <avalost> bojangles: shut your trap you insolent and idiotic fool.
[02:44] <rob_cowie> nice one bojangles... you're  twat
[02:44] <bojangles> avalost, fuck you up your ass you bastard from hell
[02:44] <avalost> bojangles: no thanks, i'm not your daddy.
[02:44] <bojangles> rob_cowie, and you too you suck ass piece of shit
[02:44] <rob_cowie> cheers mate
[02:45] <IIIEars> Oops forgot rule#99 "Never feed the trolls"
[02:45] <ColonelKernel> bojangles, if you dont cut it out me and the rest of my conspiracy are going to take all your money away
[02:45] <rob_cowie> you gotta love irc - gives a voice to those who dont have any friends!
[02:45] <bojangles> ColonelKernel, eat shit and die you fuckin bastard from HELL
[02:45] <scena> lol
[02:46] <avalost> rob_cowie: I'd say it gives courage to those who would not say such things in a crowd..
[02:46] <ColonelKernel> bojangles, we control the media too, so we're gonna let loose those nasty tapes your mom did in germany.
[02:46] <bojangles> avalost, come on over here...come on you little punk...
[02:46] <avalost> over where?
[02:46] <IIIEars> Dunno - but if there is a choice i'll opt out. (java,Active-X, and Flash are all a vague and hazy memory to me. - who needs it.)
[02:46] <avalost> to the floodgates of idiocy?
[02:46] <ed1t\work> how do i add one more folder under applications?
[02:46] <ed1t\work> can*
[02:46] <bojangles> avalost, Houston, Texas ...I am waiting for you ...you fuckin piece of shit
[02:47] <avalost> Texas, that says  A LOT
[02:47] <rob_cowie> ha!
[02:47] <avalost> the only thing that comes from Texas are Queers & Steers, so what does that make you cowboy?
[02:47] <rob_cowie> I'm in England - but even we know all about Texas!!!
[02:47] <IIIEars> bob2 - Hello? (warm up the brown ubuntu boot.)
[02:47] <Tomcat_> Stop cursing dudes...
[02:47] <ColonelKernel> bojangles, for real, im gonna report you to your ISP and get your account cancelled if you dont cut this routine out.
[02:47] <bimberi> !ops
[02:47] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!
[02:47] <ColonelKernel> thank God, an op.
[02:48] <scena> we're saved!
[02:48] <Amaranth> Please continue this discussion in a private message.
[02:48] <bojangles> ColonelKernel, like i said...eat shit and die you fuckin capitalist pig...or government whore.
[02:48] <avalost> I have no desire to discuss jack with bojangles
[02:48] <ColonelKernel> Amaranth, theres no discussion - the room is being plagued by a nazi troll
[02:48] <avalost> He's a wannabe nazi
[02:48] <ColonelKernel> thank you
[02:48] <highvoltage> someone please kick bojangles
[02:49] <IIIEars> Amaranth - D0-o-o-d - ya' r AWe-so-o-o-me! - wide grin
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[02:49] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[02:49] <fabbione> bah
[02:49] <fabbione> remove -R
[02:49] <highvoltage> what's wrong with these people?
[02:49] <fabbione> +i is enough
[02:50] <bimberi> fascinating
[02:50] <Amaranth> wow, staff works fast :)
[02:50] <Whistler> =] 
[02:50] <ed1t\work> heh
[02:50] <avalost> Funny how all of these "Nazi" type people say the same things over & over
[02:50] <Tomcat_> Thanks to the tops. :o
[02:50] <Tomcat_> Eh... ops.
[02:50] <avalost> never an ounce of originality in anything they say
[02:50] <Stx> (:
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[02:50] <avalost> then once they have been called out on their stupidity they resort to childish tactics
[02:50] <RQ> hm
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[02:50] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[02:50] <RQ> +R
[02:51] <Amaranth> russian proxy
[02:51] <fabbione> whops...
[02:51] <Stx> Ill kline it.
[02:51] <ed1t\work> anybody else left?
[02:51] <avalost> gline it instead
[02:51] <avalost> :P
[02:51] <ed1t\work> :P
[02:51] <fabbione> Amaranth: they were coming from several ips
[02:51] <Amaranth> i know, i was talking about the last one
[02:51] <fabbione> Stx: thanks
[02:51] <rorry> server allows proxy connections?
[02:51] <Amaranth> the others were zombies
[02:52] <IIIEars> Hi
[02:52] <RQ> hello
[02:52] <avalost> I have to say that irssi is great for clones/floods etc
[02:52] <avalost> I never have a problem with them
[02:52] <Stx> rorry: Not open ones..
[02:52] <RQ> who has? ;)
[02:52] <rorry> k, started to wonder
[02:53] <fabbione> get ready...
[02:53] <Amaranth> hmm, we don't have +f
[02:53] <Ms-W0rld> .
[02:53] <RQ> what is +f?
[02:53] <RQ> ;] 
[02:53] <iiears_> +F-off?
[02:53] <J_P> people, id i have hoary and use universe, when breeze are released and i do upgrade of my system to breeze, packages instaled from universe will be upgrade too without problems ?
[02:53] <Amaranth> +f is forward
[02:54] <iiears_> nice
[02:54] <Ms-W0rld> The Real Slim Santa Was In Here
[02:54] <Ms-W0rld> omg omg
[02:54] <kent> J_P yes they will aswell be upgraded.
[02:54] <qt2> err.... does hoary come with evdev?
[02:54] <Amaranth> if +f is set and you go over the join limit or +i is set they go to whatever channel you set with +f
[02:54] <daniels> egads, missed that cute flood
[02:54] <iiears_> Amaranth - Appreciate your being here. :)
[02:55] <Amaranth> exactly the same second
[02:55] <bimberi> 'twas me
[02:55] <Amaranth> am i really fast or was i already reading? :)
[02:55] <Amaranth> i'll never tell
[02:55] <iiears_> lol
[02:55] <bimberi> i was impressed :)
[02:55] <qt2> anyone/
[02:55] <ed1t\work> how can i add stuff to gnome menu?
[02:55] <iiears_> system bells are handy
[02:55] <drcode> hi all
[02:56] <drcode> I am looking for opensource developers for some nice project
[02:56] <drcode> any idea where I can publish my email ?
[02:56] <PlanarPlatypus> drcode, what project?
[02:56] <J_P> without universe ubuntu have only  5846 packages, with universe 20000
[02:56] <avalost> it'd be nice if someone would implement IRC services with a feature on chanserv like /msg chanserv killclone #channel luser@host etc
[02:56] <iiears_> nalioth - Welcome Back
[02:56] <J_P> then why universe not have oficial suport ?
[02:56] <Amaranth> avalost: err
[02:56] <Stx> avalost: that's what Operserv is used for.
[02:56] <avalost> that way opers wouldn't need to be present to help with channel probs
[02:56] <Amaranth> avalost: that'd make us all IRC Opers
[02:56] <Ms-W0rld> hihihihihihihi
[02:57] <Amaranth> hi
[02:57] <avalost> no, only for the channel
[02:57] <Whistler> whats the newest apache version?
[02:57] <Stx> avalost: We dont need to be present, but its usually a good idea. :) I cant see any reason not to be present when sorting out channel issues.
[02:57] <avalost> I run anope services for my server
[02:57] <Amaranth> avalost: Unless it was doing a kline it'd be worthless
[02:57] <avalost> the killclones doesn't really work all that well
[02:57] <iiears_> Gee, imagine what one bigot could do with a script. - ugh
[02:57] <avalost> well killclones actually does set a kline for a temp time
[02:57] <nalioth> iiears_: you lost an ear
[02:58] <Amaranth> iiears_: That wasn't a script, that was a small zombie army.
[02:58] <iiears_> nalioth - i did? - grab some duct tape will ya?
[02:58] <avalost> Stx: I tend to disagree with you, i feel IRCops shouldn't have any say in private channel matters
[02:58] <Amaranth> He either didn't have anymore zombies yet or didn't want to ruin them on attacking us.
[02:58] <avalost> really
[02:58] <Amaranth> avalost: A bot flood disrupts network activity.
[02:58] <avalost> unless the matters spill over and result in chaos for the entire network/lusers
[02:58] <nalioth> Amaranth: did i miss the daily windows zombie revue and chorus?
[02:59] <ColonelKernel> Amaranth, its also a federal crime under US law
[02:59] <chaps0063> what is the proper information to insert into /etc/fstab for a rw fat32 volume?
[02:59] <avalost> Amaranth: i'm aware of that
[02:59] <Amaranth> nalioth: yep, sorry
[02:59] <Stx> avalost: We dont interfere in channels, unless asked.
[02:59] <avalost> Stx: ahh
[02:59] <avalost> good :P
[02:59] <RQ> J_P, universe ain't supported officially because there's not enough people to do that.
[02:59] <ColonelKernel> Amaranth, also, its a violation of every AUP ive ever red
[02:59] <nalioths_dog> chaps0063: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[02:59] <ColonelKernel> read
[02:59] <ircrob> orcs are better than zombies
[02:59] <Stx> Ill be leaving now, Amaranth - if anything, query me.
[02:59] <Stx> Stay safe.
[02:59] <Amaranth> avalost: Which means they don't interfere ever because they'll only do it an op asks.
[02:59] <Amaranth> gah, i didn't get to say thanks
[03:00] <iiears_> nalioth - they were doing the "Springtime for hitler reprise" - nice synchronization and thats about it.
[03:00] <goo> I have a problem with my 3crwe154g72 (driver 3c154g72 from ndiswrapper -l) - I can't get it to set the essid, altough it seems to run OK. Does anyone has any magic solution to this?
[03:00] <avalost> One of these days i'm going to compile dancer
[03:00] <avalost> i've never fiddled with it
[03:00] <Amaranth> wtf is Jvu_Z anyway?
[03:00] <Amaranth> dancer is dead
[03:00] <Amaranth> they are replacing it
[03:00] <avalost> Amaranth: looks like gibberish to me
[03:00] <avalost> with what?
[03:01] <Amaranth> I can't remember the name.
[03:01] <chaps0063> what do i add to /etc/fstab to mount my fat32 partition rw for all users.
[03:01] <nalioth> avalost: your character set is incomplete (or your client won't display those characters)
[03:01] <RQ> chaps0063, umode=000
[03:01] <Amaranth> It's something mostly like dancer for the ircd but they are getting rid of services and making something called 'Registry' to replace it.
[03:01] <RQ> ?
[03:01] <peterretief> how do i get this * JM installed anyway!!
[03:01] <Goshawk> hi
[03:02] <nalioth> chaps0063: the dog sent you something on that
[03:02] <iiears_> !java
[03:02] <ubotu> it has been said that java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[03:02] <chaps0063> nalioth: sorry about that..
[03:02] <avalost> nalioth: I see the characters, but still can't make sense of it
[03:02] <Goshawk> bob2, wireless cardworked in and amd64 laptop using ndiswrapper (i'm the guy of yesterday)
[03:02] <RQ> hm
[03:02] <Amaranth> brb
[03:03] <avalost> so i'm actually thinking about switching to ubuntu today
[03:03] <avalost> I just don't like the idea of compiling my servers and getting junk running again
[03:04] <avalost> nor does the idea of getting my music collection set up sound all that appealing
[03:04] <RQ> aand? ;)
[03:04] <avalost> and
[03:04] <RQ> go switch ;)
[03:04] <avalost> i'm whining
[03:04] <avalost> well
[03:04] <avalost> that would also require going to grab some new cd's as i've just discovere di'm out
[03:05] <RQ> is that a problem?..
[03:05] <iiears_> avalost - time to do some shopping for a new machine? - newegg is calling.. - grin
[03:05] <avalost> yes,, I still need to burn the iso
[03:05] <RQ> hmm, i wonder if there are netinstall floppies available for ubuntu ;))
[03:05] <avalost> iiears_: i'm poor man
[03:05] <avalost> lost my job when my mom had a stroke
[03:05] <avalost> had to go back home for a month
[03:06] <nalioth> RQ: the only way i know to netinstall is to use the minimal woody debian floppy image(s)
[03:06] <iiears_> Sorry to hear that.
[03:06] <avalost> ehh it happens
[03:06] <ircrob> i upgraded to xorg on breezy and it worked !
[03:06] <avalost> hopefully i'll find a decent job soon
[03:06] <avalost> otherwise i'll starve
[03:06] <RQ> wow
[03:06] <RQ> ;D
[03:06] <avalost> and no new machines for me
[03:06] <RQ> ircrob, lucky you :)
[03:06] <nalioth> RQ: once you get network and apt up, drop in the hoary sources.list and get after it
[03:06] <RQ> nalioth ah ;)
[03:06] <ircrob> with nvidia as well
[03:07] <iiears_> avalost - you could always take up playing poker online. - ;)
[03:07] <RQ> ircrob, aren't you missing the "fiexed" font now? :D
[03:07] <avalost> iiears_: tried that lost 100$ to win $160 :P
[03:07] <ircrob> RQ: added link for misc font
[03:08] <nalioth> RQ: doest work real well with sid, sarge or etch
[03:08] <RQ> errr... "fixed"
[03:08] <RQ> nalioth what doesn't?
[03:09] <nalioth> RQ: using sarge, sid or etch netinst image(s) dont work real well for this procedure
[03:09] <fjleon> hi, i need to install the ubuntu 2.6.10 kernel source
[03:09] <fjleon> what is the name of the package?
[03:09] <RQ> nalioth well, i have the CD anyways :)
[03:10] <ColonelKernel> fjleon, linux-source
[03:10] <RQ> the boot floppies was an idea for avalost
[03:10] <RQ> fjleon, apt-cache search for it?
[03:10] <nalioth> RQ: ah
[03:10] <ColonelKernel> fjleon, linux-source-2.6.10
[03:10] <rob_cowie> Am I right in thinking that apache2 is installed by default?
[03:11] <marco_MA> hi to all!
[03:11] <fjleon> thanks, i was wrongly looking under "kernel-source-xxx"
[03:11] <marco_MA> I need to setup a wireless whit dhcp
[03:11] <marco_MA> what tool can i use in ubuntu ?
[03:12] <RQ> marco_MA, network preferences panel, i guess..
[03:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> rob_cowie: not on a standard install
[03:12] <rob_cowie> ok
[03:12] <din> marco_MA, iwconfig
[03:12] <din> marco_MA, and ifconfig
[03:12] <rob_cowie> if i 'locate apache2' in the console, it does find a directory that seems to contain it
[03:13] <rob_cowie> Am i mistaken?
[03:13] <din> example: iwconfig eth1 essid (wlan name here) enc (wep key here if there is one)
[03:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> rob_cowie: if you can connect to "localhost" in your browser, its installed.
[03:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> otherwise no
[03:13] <marco_MA> I need an easy tool like the tool that you can use in the installation for setup the net.. becasue I need to teach hot to to other people
[03:13] <rob_cowie> ok
[03:14] <rob_cowie> if it isn't installed, how can I install it on a machine with no net connection?
[03:14] <RQ> marco_MA, i think it's in the settings menu
[03:14] <RQ> (or whatever the name)
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> rob_cowie: it may be on the cd, but i dotn know
[03:14] <RQ> should be relatively easy
[03:15] <rob_cowie> i think it is - how do I configure apt-get to use the cd instead of a net repository?
[03:15] <rob_cowie> i have kubuntu
[03:15] <rob_cowie> so synaptic is not installed
[03:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> you have a thing called kynaptic... dont know how it works though
[03:15] <rob_cowie> kynaptic doesn't appear to have the capability to use other repositories
[03:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> if the cds int the drive, a standard "apt-get install apache2" should do it
[03:15] <rob_cowie> there is no option to add new package collections
[03:15] <RQ> rob_cowie, you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually
[03:16] <marco_MA> hot to know wlan name ?
[03:16] <nalioth> rob_cowie: use "apt-cdrom" to add cdroms
[03:16] <Taosy> Any idea what might be my problem: Yesterday I tried to install ubuntu with the 5.04 install cd. It booted from the cd and let me chose the language etc but after configuring network it just halted in process which said scanning discs at around 40%. And now when I tried to install it again can't get past the "detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives" screen...
[03:16] <sJaM> [14:50]  * Cannot join #ubuntu (Channel is invite only).
[03:16] <rob_cowie> cheers
[03:16] <rob_cowie> i'll try now
[03:16] <nalioth> Taosy: check md5 sums
[03:17] <iiears_> Taosy - md5sum your disk. - likely something a fingerprint or a corrupt D/L
[03:17] <ateves> hi! is there a way to resize the startmenu button so that it is not 128x128 but 256x128?
[03:17] <iiears_> md5sum yourfile.iso should do it
[03:18] <iiears_> there is a free and very good windows app "filealyzer" md5summer is nice to
[03:19] <marco_MA> thanks I use Amministrator tool ! all work raight
[03:19] <reka> iiears_: what happened to your other ear?
[03:19] <superbenk> hello
[03:19] <iiears_> lol - an "ear" is a plaing card bent at the corner for cheating.
[03:20] <rob_cowie> cheers fellas, apache2 now working
[03:20] <iiears_> Hi
[03:20] <nalioth> iiears_: you are missing something, people want to know
[03:21] <superbenk> I'm trying to install albumshaper package into ubuntu hoary (fresh install), but I don't see it in the package lists (apt-cache search)... when I try to download it directly from a repo online and install it with dpkg -i, I get dependency issues with libc6 (requires 2.3.4 but I have 2.3.2)
[03:21] <rob_cowie> i think the apt-cdrom cammand should be mentioned in the wiki - ne1 think thats a bad idea?
[03:21] <iiears_> Ubuntu - has made me lose all 10 of my windows install disks for this machine. - grateful.
[03:21] <superbenk> what am I missing to get things up to date so I can install this?
[03:21] <sango> how to save a playlist in beep media player?
[03:21] <superbenk> I've done the apt-get update/dist-upgrade already
[03:22] <theD3viL> superbenk ubuntu is buggy and slow !
[03:22] <reka> sango: enable the playlist and then click on the lower left button.
[03:22] <reka> *lower right
[03:22] <sango> reka, that doesn't work.
[03:22] <marco_MA> sometimes the sistem freeze ... what can be a cause ?
[03:23] <nalioth> are there any ubuntu rsync enabled mirrors?
[03:23] <theD3viL> marco_MA hardware ?
[03:23] <ircrob> theD3vil: KDE is faster
[03:23] <marco_MA> for sample ? do you think ram problem ?
[03:23] <theD3viL> ircrob i know i was using kubuntu but its slow
[03:24] <sango> reka, does playlist name need to hava specific postfix?
[03:24] <reka> sango: weird...i can't save one either.
[03:24] <theD3viL> marco_MA temprature ?
[03:24] <reka> sango: not afaik
[03:25] <qt2> ircrob, kde is slower than gnome. :(
[03:25] <ircrob> theD3vil: removed xproxy
[03:25] <J_P> can I use kernel-package for compile kernel as in debian ?
[03:25] <Taosy> iiears, nalioth there weren't any differencies in the md5sums
[03:26] <sango> reka, try to  add ".m3u" to your playlist name.
[03:26] <marco_MA> I doesnt know if is like I think.. but when  change kernel and I use an other.. no freeze.. But I can see in my LAPTOP how is the battery
[03:26] <ircrob> qt2: on my amd64 its not :-)
[03:27] <Kyral> hmmm, Python is using up 746 MB of VM...is this NORMAL?
[03:27] <theD3viL> ircrob what ?
[03:27] <qt2> ircrob, lol.
[03:27] <sJaM> no that isn't kyncani
[03:27] <sJaM> sorry
[03:27] <iiears_> Taosy - Did you say the progress bar stopped as it was scrolling? - or was it later as ubuntu set up security abnd backport repositories?
[03:27] <sJaM> Kyral,
[03:28] <flipy> I've set up an apache server, but I'd like to add php support. I've installed php4 and some apache libs for it, but after creating the testphp.php, if I put it on the URL it tries to download instead of running it
[03:28] <Kyral> hmm, I'm gonna shut down XChat and see if it disappears
[03:28] <nalioth> Taosy: is your hardware fully functional?
[03:28] <sJaM> you have to install the php module for apache
[03:28] <Taosy> iiears, whe progress bar stopped as it was scrolling and its in the early part of the installation
[03:28] <reka> sango: hehe.  good one.
[03:28] <reka> sango: you helped me out. :)
[03:28] <theD3viL> ircrob what do you mean with removed xproxy ?
[03:28] <ircrob> theD3vil: try removing xproxy
[03:28] <sango> reka, :-)
[03:28] <theD3viL> ircrob for what is xproxy ?
[03:29] <theD3viL> :P
[03:29] <iiears_> Nalioth - not sure where to go next with Taosy....
[03:29] <ircrob> theD3vil: one of the x packages
[03:29] <tommi^> Why does mencoder depend on xorg?
[03:29] <daniels> ircrob: do you mean lbxproxy?
[03:29] <flipy> sJaM: it is installed
[03:30] <Kyral> I didn't know gDesklets was written in python
[03:30] <nalioth> iiears_: hardware function
[03:30] <sJaM> libapache2-mod-php4
[03:30] <Kyral> thats what was doing it
[03:30] <ircrob> @daniels: yes, it depends on that
[03:30] <Kyral> Note to self, restart gDesklets every so often
[03:30] <flipy> sJaM: it is installed
[03:30] <daniels> ircrob: it makes no difference if you aren't using it
[03:31] <sJaM> do you see php in the apache signature ?
[03:31] <sJaM> did you restarted the server ?
[03:31] <Kyral> now its down to a nice 37 MB
[03:31] <ircrob> @daniels: seemed faster to me
[03:31] <daniels> ircrob: let me assure you that it makes absolutely no difference
[03:32] <flipy> sJaM: yes, I restarted the server several times
[03:32] <sJaM> once is enough flipy
[03:32] <flipy> sJaM: and where do I have to see the php signature?
[03:32] <sJaM> on the error pages
[03:32] <sJaM> Apache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.4.1 PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4 Server at localhost Port 80
[03:32] <sJaM> this is mine
[03:32] <sJaM> just go to
[03:32] <sJaM> localhost/nothere
[03:33] <flipy> The requested URL /nothere was not found on this server.
[03:33] <sJaM> yes I know
[03:33] <vader> how would I setup my sound on alsa? using an ibm 380 xd and it has Crystal CS423x
[03:33] <sJaM> but belove is the server signature
[03:33] <flipy> Apache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) Server at 10.0.0.74 Port 80
[03:33] <sJaM> you see
[03:33] <sJaM> PHP isn't on
[03:33] <flipy> uhm weird
[03:35] <reka> we need more sound gurus in here...maybe crimsun could hold tutes :)  ...or at least write a wiki page
[03:35] <Belutz> flipy: have you installed the libapache2-mod-php4 ?
[03:35] <marco_MA> ofter config the net wireless the system freeze
[03:35] <flipy> Belutz: it seems to be instaleld
[03:37] <Belutz> flipy: i'm a newbie too in here, but you could try to un-install and install again, both apache2 and php4
[03:37] <flipy> Belutz: that's what I've tried
[03:37] <wingo> hey folks, anyone know how l10n works? i tried to restart gnome with es_ES as my language but a lot of apps appear untranslated (which I know are translated) -- this on breezy
[03:37] <Belutz> flipy: ic
[03:38] <iiears_> vader - found this link - http://www.linux-sxs.org/multimedia/gentoo_alsa.html
[03:38] <Kyral> whats the wiki page for the NVidia drivers?
[03:38] <iiears_> !nvidia
[03:38] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:38] <Kyral> ty
[03:38] <stephan_1> hi there, wherefrom do i get php modules for ubuntus php4?
[03:38] <vader> ty will look as soon as the browser opens
[03:38] <RQ> hm
[03:38] <RQ> wingo, they might be untranslated
[03:39] <RQ> wingo, plus, you should install language packs for es_ES
[03:39] <RQ> ;] 
[03:39] <RQ> language-support-es or sth. search the cache for it.
[03:39] <RQ> stephan_1, ?
[03:39] <ircrob> Kyral: www.nvidia.com
[03:40] <RQ> stephan_1, what do you mean?
[03:40] <Kyral> I already have them, I was just pointing a friend to it :P
[03:40] <stephan_1> RQ: i need curl and/or the openssl modules for php
[03:40] <RQ> hm
[03:40] <wingo> RQ: thanks, giving it a try
[03:41] <iiears_> vader - this may be better - try to start alsa (from root) first: /etc/init.d/alsa start
[03:41] <Belutz> flipy: check your /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ is there php4.conf ?
[03:41] <J_P> where I find one example of sources.list for "multiverse" ?
[03:41] <rob_cowie> Anyone else have trouble with display resolution on a laptop?
[03:41] <RQ> stephan_1, apt-get install php4-curl
[03:41] <flipy> no, it isn't in mods-available neither mods-enabled
[03:41] <reka> !tell rob_cowie about fixres
[03:42] <mridle> anyone know why VLC cant associate filetypes?
[03:42] <Kyral> !resolution
[03:42] <rob_cowie> cheers!
[03:42] <ubotu> I heard resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:42] <mridle> (VideoLanClient)
[03:42] <J_P> mridle: here work fine
[03:42] <Belutz> flipy: may i pm you?
[03:42] <flipy> sure :)
[03:43] <wingo> RQ: wow, not sure exactly what that package does, but it seems to have done the trick. thanks much.
[03:43] <colmore> Is there a script that runs automatically, in the background, after X starts?
[03:43] <RQ> wingo, apt-cache show it
[03:43] <ircrob> mridle: try #videolan
[03:43] <RQ> and you'll know what it does
[03:44] <stephan_1> RQ: it says it cant find the package, i am familiar with debian package management, do i need to put another source in sources.conf?
[03:44] <colmore> I'd like to automate some things (like locate -u) but don't want to make startup slower
[03:44] <RQ> stephan_1, h
[03:44] <RQ> hm
[03:45] <ateves> how can i avoid that gnome automatically resizes its panel icons when i resize the panel?
[03:45] <RQ> stephan_1, it's in universe
[03:45] <reka> colmore: locate is already in cron.daily on my machine.
[03:45] <RQ> stephan_1, I see it in packages.ubuntu.com
[03:45] <colmore> there are also some things that I specifically want to have run at startup
[03:45] <reka> slocate rather
[03:46] <RQ> stephan_1, you have to enable universe if it's disabled.
[03:46] <colmore> for instance, i'd like to have ifconfigure run after X starts since it delays boot for so long
[03:47] <Whistler> is it possible to use ubuntu on p166mmx 40mb ram 3gb hdd laptop?
[03:48] <teferi> Whistler: i wouldn't try
[03:48] <mridle> Whistler:  it will be sloooow
[03:48] <teferi> especially with that little RAM
[03:48] <stephan_1> RQ: where do i do that?
[03:48] <colmore> Whistler, you could install server and then run a different window manager
[03:48] <colmore> fvwm perhaps
[03:48] <mridle> Whistler:  but try the ubuntu (or debian) mini-ram howto
[03:48] <RQ> xfce
[03:48] <stephan_1> RQ: found it, thanks
[03:48] <RQ> np:)
[03:49] <Whistler> i am thinking of using xfce or smt but not gnime
[03:49] <teferi> even then it'll be slow...40M isn't much ram
[03:49] <colmore> Has anyone here tried the server install on an older machine?  I there much baggage?
[03:49] <RQ> Whistler, gnome is much much much much heavier
[03:49] <knudsen_> Hello. Is is really true that apt-get hasn't got an option for searching for packages available? As an example "apt-get install emacs" does not work. One has to "guess" that the right name is emacs21, not emacs.
[03:49] <colmore> I mean, back in 1998 or so, the first linux desktop I ever saw was running on a 16 MB machine...
[03:49] <mridle> Whistler:  http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html
[03:49] <RQ> knudsen_, apt-cache search keyword keyword
[03:49] <knudsen_> RQ: thanks!
[03:50] <RQ> np :)
[03:50] <RQ> colmore, it probably had *box
[03:50] <RQ> ;)
[03:50] <colmore> also, SDRAM is dirt cheap, check pricewatch and add 128 MB to that
[03:51] <colmore> a while back I was running Mandrake on an iBook with 128 megs ram and it was very usable for day to day tasks, even with KDE
[03:51] <Whistler> i  dont know if this laptop supports more ram
[03:52] <colmore> it almost certainly does
[03:52] <K-Bay_> pretty newb question, is there some equivelant of packages.debian.org (general package browser on web) on ubuntu ? ;p
[03:52] <flipy> can anyone assure that libapache2-mod-php4 can't be unistalled?
[03:52] <flipy> seems to be a bug with that package
[03:52] <RQ> packages.ubuntu.com
[03:52] <RQ> K-Bay_,
[03:52] <K-Bay_> duh ;] 
[03:53] <colmore> so anyway, repeating my first question, is there a script that runs after X starts?  I'd like to have a few processes run in the background at startup.
[03:53] <RQ> colmore, i think you can make your network script run after GDM starts as you wanted
[03:53] <RQ> just rename it
[03:54] <RQ> i think that should work
[03:54] <colmore> ok, where do I go, and what file am I looking to rename?
[03:54] <colmore> haven't really messed around with init and such before
[03:54] <RQ> colmore, /etc/rc*.d/whatever
[03:55] <colmore> ok cool, thanks
[03:55] <RQ> i think you can change the number
[03:55] <RQ> smaller number means priority, imho. but that's just IMHO. ;)
[03:56] <colmore> ok next question: i've got an ipod that ubuntu is recognizing automatically when I plug it into usb, but gtk pod is telling me that it can't find /media/ipod
[03:56] <colmore> any thoughts?
[03:57] <RQ> colmore, hm... you might have to mount it or so.
[03:57] <RQ> and if it IS mounted, check the mountpoint then.
[03:57] <rommer> i've got a couple of identical computers and am looking to combine them in a cluster using ubuntu linux, has anyone here got any info on how to do that?
[03:58] <Antinomy> hey all...does anyone know of a streaming media app that plays mp3 streams?
[03:58] <colmore> gtkpod isn't looking in /mnt though, it's looking in /media, which does have the folders it claims to be looking for
[03:58] <xry> is there some way to reset every network setting?
[03:59] <rob_cowie> hi
[03:59] <deFrysk> Antinomy, xmms beep-media-player totem mplayer rhythmbox etc etc
[03:59] <Whistler> i have internet shared via lan 1ip adress gets 128kbps is it possible to combine those speeds?
[03:59] <rob_cowie> the page you directed me to regarding resolution problems is interesting
[03:59] <rob_cowie> I've done what it suggested and it hasnt worked
[03:59] <colmore> oh cool, fixed it
[04:00] <rob_cowie> im on a laptop - so it isnt a refresh rate problem
[04:00] <Whistler> 1 ip adress gets 128 i have 2pc`s is it possible to combine those speeds?
[04:00] <colmore> ubuntu called the folder "IPOD" and gtkpod was looking for "ipod"
[04:00] <rob_cowie> just a problem with a lack of resolution options
[04:00] <Antinomy> defrysk: ok. trying that route, but no luck.
[04:00] <rob_cowie> however, if i plug in a vga cable - even if no monitor is connected, I get full screen
[04:01] <Antinomy> deFrysk: xmms, for instance, won't play streaming ,mp3
[04:01] <rob_cowie> any ideas?
[04:01] <Antinomy> deFrysk: need a codec or something?
[04:01] <deFrysk> Antinomy, it does on mine
[04:01] <deFrysk> oh
[04:01] <deFrysk> u need the plugins
[04:01] <deFrysk> Antinomy, on breezy ?
[04:02] <deFrysk> !mp3
[04:02] <ubotu> deFrysk: I give up, what is it?
[04:02] <deFrysk> hmm
[04:02] <rommer> i've got a couple of identical computers and am looking to combine them in a cluster using ubuntu linux, has anyone here got any info on how to do that?
[04:03] <deFrysk> ! restricted
[04:03] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:03] <qt2> err, how would i correct the 'master' volume control not working in ubuntu?
[04:03] <iiears_> ubotu you are certainly getting smart.
[04:03] <ubotu> iiears_: what are you talking about?
[04:03] <qt2> headphone and pcm work fine, master has no effect.
[04:03] <Bitmastr1> i can't decide between debian or ubuntu on a k6 450... suggestions? (i know i can do server with xfce)
[04:05] <iiears_> Bitmastr1 - more support on IRC with Ubuntu?
[04:05] <Bitmastr1> i think ubuntu has a faster booting time..
[04:06] <Bitmastr1> but debian has a more up to date package system (in the testing branch)
[04:06] <RQ> then what? ;] 
[04:06] <Whistler> is laptop ram different from normal ram?
[04:06] <mridle> but ubuntu is stabilized every 6months
[04:07] <mridle> debian every 3 years :)
[04:07] <mridle> Whistler:  : yes
[04:07] <Whistler> k
[04:08] <Bitmastr1> true, but the testing is updated every week or so?
[04:08] <RQ> Whistler, laptops usually use SO-DIMM
[04:08] <Bitmastr1> and even if i use the breezy... is firefox 1.1 included?
[04:08] <Whistler> anybody knows cheap online shop where can i buy ram for laptop?
[04:08] <RQ> Bitmastr1, well... there's breezy ;)
[04:08] <Whistler> i think this one uses simm not dimm
[04:08] <RQ> it's so current it doesn't even work ATM
[04:08] <RQ> ;)
[04:09] <Bitmastr1> i've heard that it won't be included
[04:09] <rob_cowie> is it possible to browse the package repository via the web and download packages manually?
[04:09] <Bitmastr1> (firefox 1.1 and the next xorg)
[04:09] <RQ> Whistler, eBay
[04:09] <Bitmastr1> rob yes
[04:09] <RQ> Bitmastr1, eh? ;] 
[04:09] <Bitmastr1> but you must check the dependancies
[04:09] <RQ> rob_cowie, packages.ubuntu.com
[04:10] <rob_cowie> cheers
[04:10] <RQ> Bitmastr1, well xorg is being fixed now.
[04:10] <Bitmastr1> the breezy will have a free in the next month.. and ff and xorg will be released after that
[04:10] <RQ> FF1.1... i think it depends on when that will be released
[04:10] <RQ> prolly
[04:11] <RQ> however, you'll find that in post-breezy in that case, i think :)
[04:11] <Bitmastr1> i wanted to try ubuntulite but the site is down
[04:11] <Whistler> will ubuntu+xfce run as fast as win98?
[04:11] <Bitmastr1> i think even more faaster :-)
[04:11] <mridle> try & see
[04:11] <RQ> Whistler, i doubt that
[04:11] <RQ> ;)
[04:12] <RQ> (depends on the state of windows98 of course)
[04:12] <Bitmastr1> you also need to remove unwanted services
[04:13] <RQ> Bitmastr1, X11 is the first unwanted service in that case, i'd say
[04:13] <mridle> hehe
[04:13] <Bitmastr1> :-D
[04:13] <RQ> ;0
[04:13] <rommer> does anyone know how i can install openmosix on a hoary server install?
[04:14] <Whistler> i have laptop like this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6786151691&category=42199&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1
[04:14] <Whistler> what do you think about chanses of using ubuntu+xfce
[04:14] <Whistler> ?
[04:14] <mridle> why dont you just TRY?
[04:14] <Whistler> i am scarred
[04:14] <Whistler> :)
[04:14] <mridle> of what? wasting 1hour of work? :P
[04:14] <Ghetek> I just got a job as a pc technician and im doing VERY well, they asked me to make a list of stuff i might need. what might i be forgetting? so far i got: 32mb jupmdrive, 512mb jumpdrive, pci diag card, co-located server space, 1 licence for winrollback, 700m laptop, kvm over vnc, 1 licence for crossover office.
[04:15] <mridle> Ghetek:  erh, what you need for what?
[04:15] <RQ> Whistler,
[04:15] <RQ> i've been running debian on a P133 box with 48 megabytes of ram
[04:15] <Ghetek> mridle: im a pc repair tech
[04:15] <Bitmastr1> RQ, with x?
[04:16] <RQ> it works. as long as you don't run firefox or openoffice
[04:16] <RQ> Bitmastr1, yeah.
[04:16] <Bitmastr1> woot
[04:16] <RQ> i had ROX on it
[04:16] <Whistler> RQ u used xfce?
[04:16] <mridle> Ghetek:  knoppix live-cd
[04:16] <Bitmastr1> xfree or xorg?
[04:16] <RQ> xfree ;)
[04:16] <daniels> whether it's xfree86 or xorg doesn't make a whit of difference
[04:16] <RQ> however. it was pain in the ass.
[04:16] <Bitmastr1> do you think it's faster?
[04:16] <Ghetek> mridle: yeah but thats free
[04:16] <RQ> that box runs windows98 now.
[04:16] <daniels> if anything, xorg has decreased memory usage, because of all the fixes we've made to libraries in it since to fix memory leaks etc
[04:17] <RQ> Bitmastr1, and i think windows98 is much faster
[04:17] <Bitmastr1> have you tried damn small on that?
[04:17] <RQ> nope
[04:17] <Bitmastr1> they say it run pretty fast on old machines
[04:17] <RQ> now i'm having a 733 Pentium3 at home. And run XFCE4 on it. Ownz ;))
[04:18] <RQ> with an exception that i cannot logout normally since some point.
[04:18] <Bitmastr1> and i tried that.. but didn't like it much as  ubuntu
[04:18] <RQ> xfce4 runs on ubuntu there :)
[04:19] <Bitmastr1> well now the problem is... using hoary or using breezy?
[04:19] <RQ> breezy :)
[04:19] <Bitmastr1> should i download a new netinstall iso?
[04:19] <Whistler> hoary
[04:19] <Whistler> =] 
[04:19] <mridle> fixed X in breezy now?
[04:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i got my new sound card ^_^
[04:20] <RQ> but i haven't updated it for a week or two. cuz my main box is an iBook with OS X now =)~
[04:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know how a soundblaster live 5.1 is with ubuntu?
[04:21] <J_P> what is "hoary-backports" ?
[04:22] <deFrysk> ChurcH_of_FoamY, afaIk it should work fine , just dont get a 7.1
[04:22] <Bitmastr1> they are package from breezy usable from the hoary version
[04:22] <mpmc> <_<... I'm a bit confused people.. Ok.. Let me explain. I'm creating a PHP BOT.. If I use the Command line it just see loading and it exit's after that. but If I run it though Apache it works fine.. I don't userstand it..
[04:22] <Bitmastr1> i.e. updates
[04:23] <Raskall-edge> hmm... if I do a "dd if=/dev/hd<ubuntulivecd> of =/dev/sda<1 gig usbstick>". Will I then be able to boot the livecd from the usbstick?
[04:23] <qt2> http://pastebin.com/317015 <- is there something wrong with this evdev config?
[04:23] <dataw0lf> Anyone got Ubuntu on an AMD 64 they want to test a brand spanking new package with?
[04:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> deFrysk should it be able to put out more than one sound? cause my soundcard can only put out one sound at a time
[04:24] <mpmc> anyone
[04:24] <deFrysk> ChurcH_of_FoamY, that I do not know
[04:24] <Bitmastr1> ChurcH_of_FoamY, have you properly configured alsa?
[04:24] <Bitmastr1> (dmix)
[04:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> as far as i know it's configured properly
[04:25] <dataw0lf> Anyone? le usual testers are unavailable.
[04:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i think i just have a crappy onboard sound card
[04:25] <Whistler> me too
[04:25] <Whistler> =] 
[04:26] <Bitmastr1> are you using esd?
[04:26] <Whistler> oh i remembered is it possible to have 2 programs using audio?
[04:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it dosen't matter what i use as the sound server with this card it still only puts out one sound at a time
[04:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats why i went out and got a soundblaster live 5.1
[04:27] <RQ> Whistler, yes it is
[04:27] <RQ> sometimes ;))
[04:27] <mridle> yes
[04:27] <Whistler> what do i need to do?
[04:27] <RQ> ubuntu enables that by default, i think :)
[04:27] <mridle> esd+alsa
[04:27] <Bitmastr1> yep, but i dropped esd and used only alsa
[04:28] <rommer> i've got a couple of identical computers and am looking to combine them in a cluster using ubuntu linux, has anyone here got any info on how to do that?
[04:28] <mridle> Whistler & ChurcH_of_FoamY : check out the esd+alsa howto
[04:29] <Whistler> thx
[04:29] <Whistler> =] 
[04:29] <mridle> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[04:29] <mridle> the link even
[04:29] <spike> hi
[04:29] <Bitmastr1> hi
[04:29] <vader> am looking @ thaat link mirdle... thanx needed that one
[04:29] <spike> apt-get remove amarok wants to remove kubuntu-desktop...
[04:29] <spike> that looks insane...
[04:30] <markusdarkus> Does anybody know how 2 play mp4 audio in ubuntu?
[04:30] <mridle> np
[04:30] <emX> spike: kubuntu-desktop is a 'dummy package'.
[04:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> you know i followd the howto and it just screwd up the sound card
[04:30] <alkuovi> I have looked for information about processor optimized kernels. I have an old Intel Celeron 466 MHz, so will 686 bring benefit or is it only for the newest high power machines?
[04:30] <emX> spike: try 'apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop'; it'll give you more details on the package
[04:30] <Antinomy> can anyone tell me how to get an application in the application list?
[04:31] <mridle> ChurcH_of_FoamY:  it works for me
[04:31] <mridle> ChurcH_of_FoamY:  doesnt work with your new card either?
[04:31] <spike> emX: k, tnx
[04:31] <emX> spike: np.
[04:31] <mridle> (and i dont think it breaks your hardware, just reset the settings.. )
[04:32] <Antinomy> can anyone tell me how to get an application in the application list?
[04:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i haven't tryed it with the new card
[04:32] <Bitmastr1> in the menu?
[04:32] <vader> Antinomy: I have been playing with that, looks like I have to rebuild my menu list
[04:33] <hitokiri_odin> hmm... how do I mount my HD in this live CD? (am a n00b)
[04:33] <Antinomy> Bitmastr1: yes
[04:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the only type of onboard shut-off is in the bios
[04:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> same thing with the vid card
[04:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so i'm thinking that theres gonna be some sorta reconfig of ubuntu or something
[04:33] <markusdarkus> Does anybody know how 2 play mp4 audio in ubuntu?
[04:33] <Joose^> hi
[04:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> to get it to use the new soundcard
[04:34] <Bitmastr1> there is a prog.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38183
[04:34] <rommer> i've got a couple of identical computers and am looking to combine them in a cluster using ubuntu linux, has anyone here got any info on how to do that?
[04:34] <mridle> ChurcH_of_FoamY:  unload the module
[04:34] <mridle> lsmod / modprobe etc etc
[04:34] <Joose^> what are the system requeriments to run ubuntu?
[04:34] <Bitmastr1> rommer have you tried looking for a howto?
[04:34] <mridle> Josse: with gnome 512mb ram and P3/p4
[04:35] <hitokiri_odin> ei... how to mount my other partitions?
[04:35] <vader> Joose^: I am running it on a p1 233 64 mb ram and I also have a 4 gig hard drive
[04:35] <Antinomy> Bitmastr1: thanks~
[04:35] <Joose^> vader and run good?
[04:35] <Bitmastr1> Antinomy: np
[04:36] <vader> decent with xfce4 window manager
[04:36] <rommer> Bitmastr1: yep
[04:36] <mridle> xfce is slimmer than icewm ?
[04:36] <vader> I have that one too but have to re-build the menu list for it
[04:37] <Joose^> i want to run ubuntu in a celeron 1.5ghz.. with 256mb ram... but i don't know if will run good or not
[04:37] <Antinomy> Bitmastr1: What should I do with this code?
[04:37] <Bitmastr1> rommer: i only know it requires a medium-high knowledge of linux (and i don't have that :-( )
[04:37] <Whistler> i will run as hell
[04:37] <Bitmastr1> install tha package and run..
[04:38] <Antinomy> oy vey.
[04:38] <rommer> Bitmastr1: yea i know
[04:38] <Whistler> Joose^ i use ubuntu on amd 700
[04:38] <Whistler> and its like wind
[04:38] <Joose^> whistler yeah? xD
[04:38] <Bitmastr1> it should let you modify or add the menu
[04:38] <rommer> Joose^: if you are only running xfce4 or fluxbox it will run fine
[04:39] <Whistler> rommer only xfce?
[04:39] <Whistler> i use gnome and its speedy
[04:39] <Antinomy> Bitmastr1: can you walk me through this? total n00b. I'm not sure what this stuff means.
[04:39] <rommer> performance will be alot slower if you used gnome or kde
[04:39] <vader> Whistler: what are the specs on ur system?
[04:40] <Whistler> desktop or this laptop?
[04:40] <vader> laptop
[04:40] <Bitmastr1> well.. never used it... when i need a prog i launch with  the terminal :-)
[04:40] <Whistler> laptop 166mhz 40mb ram
[04:40] <Antinomy> Bitmastr1: ok.
[04:40] <J_P> After i put multiverse in sources.list, and do apt-get update; apt-get -f dist-upgrade show many apckages for upgrade, but without mulverse not show that why ?
[04:40] <Antinomy> Bitmastr1: thanks...
[04:40] <Whistler> desktop is 700mhz 256 ram 128 video
[04:40] <Bitmastr1> np
[04:41] <Whistler> and its more than enough for me
[04:41] <scena> In /etc/network/interfaces is there a limitation as to what the 'up' option can run?
[04:41] <Antinomy> can anyone tell me what to do with an autoinstall file?
[04:41] <Whistler> run it
[04:41] <Whistler> :)
[04:41] <Antinomy> do I just paste it into root term?
[04:41] <Joose^> does ubuntu support all video cards and sound?
[04:41] <RQ> scena, i don't think so
[04:41] <Whistler> joose most of them
[04:41] <RQ> Antinomy, yes
[04:42] <Antinomy> rq: thanks.
[04:42] <scena> RQ: Im having a routing problem. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50437 .
[04:42] <Joose^> ;-)
[04:42] <RQ> plus, ensure it's executable
[04:42] <scena> RQ: for some reason, they aren't taking on boot when i put them in the /etc/network/interfaces file
[04:43] <Joose^> i have to wait my ubuntu cds... :-(
[04:43] <Antinomy> can someone look at this autoinstall script, and tell me why it's throwing an error when I paste it into root?
[04:43] <Whistler> Joose^ donwload one
[04:43] <Antinomy> http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg
[04:43] <Joose^> Whistler i don't have broandband now...
[04:43] <Amaranth> Antinomy: you aren't supposed to paste it
[04:43] <RQ> scena, i'm afraid you're doing it the wrong way
[04:44] <RQ> that's all.
[04:44] <Antinomy> Amaranth: ok, what do I do with it?
[04:44] <Whistler> antinomy try sudo apt-get install smeg
[04:44] <Amaranth> Antinomy: save it to your home dir, open a terminal, and run 'sudo python installsmeg'
[04:44] <patrick__> hi
[04:44] <scena> RQ: wrong way as in you dont put them there, or wrong way as my syntax is incorrect
[04:44] <Amaranth> Whistler: That only works if you're on breezy or have backports enabled.
[04:44] <Whistler> Joose^ i used 128kbps to download cd
[04:44] <Antinomy> Amaranth: ok, i'll try it
[04:44] <Whistler> =] 
[04:45] <Whistler> :P
[04:45] <scena> RQ: my initial thought was to put them in one of the init.d scripts
[04:45] <Bitmastr1> for slow machines.. what isit's better ext3 or reiserfs?
[04:45] <scena> RQ: but someone here said I put themin the /etc/network/interfaces
[04:45] <dups> speaking of backports, does anyone have mirrors that are working?
[04:45] <Amaranth> Bitmastr1: ext3 is _always_ better
[04:45] <RQ> scena, nah
[04:45] <Whistler> i am still using 128kbps
[04:45] <Whistler> =] 
[04:45] <RQ> i think it's not simple "route add"
[04:45] <Joose^> Whistler my conex is 40,0kbps xD dial-up...
[04:45] <RQ> you need to enable bridging or sth
[04:45] <dataw0lf> Amaranth: preach it, brotha.
[04:46] <scena> RQ: How/where would I add static routes on boot?
[04:46] <Whistler> Joose^ oh in that case good luck waiting
[04:46] <Joose^> xD
[04:46] <Antinomy> Amaranth: "No such file or directory".
[04:46] <RQ> scena, it's not routes
[04:46] <dataw0lf> who was asking the cluster question earlier?
[04:46] <dataw0lf> ah.
[04:46] <Amaranth> Antinomy: You downloaded  the installsmeg file into your home dir?
[04:46] <RQ> routes for YOUR box are set up automatically
[04:47] <RQ> 12.xx.xx.xx goes through eth0
[04:47] <dataw0lf> rommer: Check out the FAI documentation (e.g., 'google fai', `apt-cache search fai`)
[04:47] <scena> RQ: so i would just need to enable IP forwarding then?
[04:47] <RQ> and 10.xx.xx.xx goes through eth1
[04:47] <Antinomy> Amaranth: i saved as the install script from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38183, under downloads
[04:47] <RQ> scena, i'm not an expert at that, but i think you should...
[04:47] <Joose^> thanks!
[04:47] <rommer> dataw0lf: ok thanks
[04:48] <Amaranth> Antinomy: ok, open a terminal and run this: 'wget http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg && chmod +x installsmeg && sudo ./installsmeg'
[04:48] <dataw0lf> rommer: FAI is probably the best solution for someone new to clustering in general, imho.
[04:48] <scena> RQ: i did read that somewhere yes. Im new to this myself. On the Windows box im using as the router, I actually had to add the routes by hand. I figured I had to do something similar here.
[04:48] <rommer> ok thanks ill take a look
[04:48] <dataw0lf> np
[04:48] <RQ> i don't think so
[04:49] <RQ> hmz
[04:49] <Antinomy> Amaranth: seems to be working. do i need to DL the other links too?
[04:49] <Amaranth> nope
[04:49] <dataw0lf> scena: if you're setting up routes for a router, yes, you'll have to do it manually.
[04:49] <Amaranth> running that command should do everything
[04:49] <RQ> scena, it's in iptables, i think :)
[04:49] <dataw0lf> the installation won't know magically where you want the packets to go.
[04:49] <Antinomy> Amaranth: oops. Error!
[04:49] <scena> dataw0lf: ok, thats what i thought
[04:49] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[04:49] <Amaranth> Antinomy: what's the error?
[04:49] <scena> dataw0lf: im trying to use a dual NIC card to route packets from one net to another
[04:50] <Antinomy> Amaranth: I'm sorry man, I'm a noob. I need help.
[04:50] <scena> dataw0lf: but i dont know where to put the route commands on boot
[04:50] <dataw0lf> scena: yeah, just checked out your interfaces layout on the forums.
[04:50] <dataw0lf> scena: do a ifup on both interfaces
[04:50] <Amaranth> Antinomy: what's the error?
[04:50] <dataw0lf> then gimme your routing tables
[04:50] <dataw0lf> (netstat -nr)
[04:50] <Amaranth> Antinomy: I wrote smeg and that script, I'm *sigh*ing because I didn't think of something. :)
[04:50] <scena> dataw0lf: at a terminal, or ifup inside the interfaces file
[04:50] <Antinomy> Amaranth: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[04:50] <Amaranth> Antinomy: close nautilus
[04:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> brb
[04:50] <Amaranth> err
[04:50] <Antinomy> Amaranth: what's nautilus?
[04:50] <Amaranth> Antinomy: close synaptic
[04:50] <Antinomy> k
[04:51] <Amaranth> then run that again in the terminal
[04:52] <dataw0lf> scena: sorry, was using the latrine.
[04:52] <dataw0lf> scena: ifdown the interfaces in the terminal, then ifup them.
[04:52] <scena> data: np. :)
[04:52] <scena> dataw0lf: got it. ok, give me one sec need to put the box back on my bech.
[04:52] <scena> becnh even
[04:52] <scena> bench
[04:52] <dataw0lf> np
[04:52] <dataw0lf> Anybody got an AMD64 they're willing to test a package on?
[04:53] <Antinomy> Amaranth: looks like it's done. What just happened?
[04:53] <Amaranth> Antinomy: you should have Applications->System Tools->Smeg Menu Editor in your menus
[04:53] <Amaranth> Antinomy: if not log out and back in and it will be there
[04:53] <Antinomy> Amaranth: fantastic
[04:54] <ioboss> hji
[04:54] <ioboss> hi
[04:54] <kent> Amaranth will the name in the menu officially be "Smet Menu Editor"? Why not just Menu Editor?
[04:55] <Bitmastr1> hi
[04:55] <Amaranth> kent: Why not 'Web Browser' instead of 'Firefox Web Browser'?
[04:55] <Amaranth> kent: What happens if you have more than one menu editor installed?
[04:55] <Will_> Why not just a picture of a clown holding a ballon? HUH!?
[04:55] <dataw0lf> IT!
[04:56] <Amaranth> ?
[04:56] <dataw0lf> Amaranth: Stephen King book/movie, involving a clown.  Nevermind.
[04:56] <scena> dataw0lf: almost there
[04:56] <dataw0lf> scena: word.
[04:56] <Antinomy> Amaranth: once I have smeg, how do I hunt down an app that's been installed?
[04:56] <hacked``> guys
[04:56] <hacked``> what does this mean:
[04:56] <hacked``> find: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/: No such file or directory
[04:56] <hacked``> grep: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build//.config: No such file or directory
[04:56] <hacked``> grep: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build//include/linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory
[04:56] <Amaranth> Antinomy: That's not what smeg does
[04:56] <Antinomy> Amaranth: I know.
[04:56] <Amaranth> hacked`: You're missing linux-kernel-headers?
[04:57] <Antinomy> Amaranth: I'm asking you how can I find an app?
[04:57] <Amaranth> Antinomy: That depends on a lot of things.
[04:57] <Antinomy> Amaranth: of course.
[04:57] <Amaranth> Antinomy: For one, the name of the app.
[04:57] <hacked``> amaranth, what do i search for in synaptic
[04:57] <Amaranth> hacked`: what i just said :)
[04:57] <Antinomy> Amaranth: so, just run a search?
[04:57] <dataw0lf> hacked``: linux-kernel-headers
[04:57] <hacked``> thanks
[04:57] <Amaranth> Antinomy: You've lost me.
[04:57] <ioboss> i have a problem, but i don't know what's the problem.. somebody can help me?
[04:57] <Antinomy> Amaranth: nm.
[04:57] <dataw0lf> ioboss: If you can be more specific.
[04:57] <qt2> dataw0lf, stephen king is within 5 miles of me. ;)
[04:57] <dataw0lf> qt2: live near Bangor?
[04:57] <ioboss> sure.. so
[04:58] <qt2> dataw0lf, in bangor. :)
[04:58] <ioboss> i have a lan with pc win
[04:58] <dataw0lf> qt2: sweet.
[04:58] <ioboss> i have installed samba
[04:58] <dataw0lf> qt2: Stephen King == favorite author.
[04:58] <hacked``> amaranth, synaptic shows it as being installed, i can only "mark for reinstallation"
[04:58] <axis> everything is installing ,nothing is working for me.. can i get the wiki url to check my sources.list against
[04:58] <dataw0lf> you should totally start leaving Ubuntu cds on his doorstep.
[04:58] <ioboss> i see pc win if i do smb://ip_pc_win
[04:58] <qt2> dataw0lf, heh, i know him personally, eaten pizza with him.
[04:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok now i have absoulutely no sound with the new sound card >.<
[04:58] <ioboss> but i don't see the workgroup
[04:58] <dataw0lf> qt2: awesome.
[04:58] <Amaranth> hacked`: no idea then
[04:59] <dataw0lf> qt2: next time you see him tell him the ending to the Dark Tower made my head hurt.
[04:59] <qt2> he used to go to my granparents pizza place a few times a week.
[04:59] <axis> uhm
[04:59] <qt2> dataw0lf, havent talked with him in a long while XD
[04:59] <Amaranth> qt2: don't go near him, you might die of some weird disease or from some weird monster
[04:59] <axis> isn't he dead
[04:59] <axis> steven king died a while ago
[04:59] <dataw0lf> axis: no, he got hit by a car.
[04:59] <dataw0lf> but he survived.
[04:59] <axis> oh
[04:59] <qt2> dataw0lf, and sued.
[04:59] <axis> well good for him
[04:59] <axis> :X
[04:59] <scena> dataw0lf: ok, booting it up now
[04:59] <dataw0lf> qt2: yeah, he got pretty hurt, I'd sue too.
[05:00] <hacked``> dataw0lf, synaptic shows it as being installed, i can only "mark for reinstallation"
[05:00] <axis> any details on who hit him
[05:00] <dataw0lf> axis: yeah, some drunk came hit him on a back road.
[05:00] <Amaranth> he is rich, why sue?
[05:00] <sproingie> no he's dead all right, and there's this boy in england dying of cancer that wants you to send him postcards
[05:00] <axis> sigh
[05:00] <axis> i've been hit by a drunk
[05:00] <dataw0lf> Amaranth: I think it was more to get the drunk off the road.
[05:00] <qt2> it wasnt even like... pissibly atal or anything... and it was a complete accident... he shouldnt have sued.
[05:00] <axis> not fucking fun
[05:00] <ioboss> dataw0lf, i'm italian i don't known if you understand my problem.. :(
[05:00] <Antinomy> Can anyone help me with smeg?
[05:00] <dataw0lf> qt2: it wasn't a complete accident the guy was drunk.
[05:00] <xiximkopp> hello! i just installed the boa webserver, and it wants to download php files. doesn't it support php scripts?
[05:00] <qt2> dataw0lf, err... no, he wasnt.
[05:00] <Amaranth> axis: language
[05:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um ok i put the new soundcard in and now i have absoulutly no sound whats up?
[05:00] <dataw0lf> qt2: sure he was.
[05:00] <Amaranth> Antinomy: I wrote it, what do you need?
[05:01] <dataw0lf> qt2: I have the police report.
[05:01] <sproingie> what the smegging smeg is smeg?
[05:01] <ioboss> who can help me with lan?
[05:01] <Antinomy> Amaranth: you seemed to not know the answer before...
[05:01] <qt2> ...obsessive much? <.<;
[05:01] <Amaranth> !smeg
[05:01] <ubotu> I heard smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[05:01] <Antinomy> Amaranth: ok
[05:01] <axis> anybody having problems with;  bittorent, bittornado. bittornado-guy
[05:01] <dataw0lf> sproingie: Amarant's menu editor.
[05:01] <dataw0lf> Amaranth*
[05:01] <axis> gui.. or the cd rom player
[05:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so um is there any idea guys?
[05:01] <deus> about apt: whats the backports? im having problems with them all the time, can i just remove them from sourcelist?
[05:01] <Amaranth> Antinomy: No, I didn't understand what you were asking.
[05:01] <scena> i had a problem with the ntp client lol
[05:02] <dataw0lf> deus: backports are third party, if you don't know what they are you probably shouldn't have them in your repo list.
[05:02] <dataw0lf> deus: so, yeah, remove em.
[05:02] <Antinomy> Amaranth: I have smeg up and running. Earlier, I installed mplayer. I want to add it to the menu using smeg. I go to add a new entry to the sound and video menu, and I get asked the following questions - Name, Comment, Command.
[05:02] <Antinomy> Amaranth: I'm assuming the third is the most important
[05:02] <vader> see you guys in a while... time to go back to work and get some things done
[05:02] <Amaranth> Antinomy: yeah, the first two are whatever you want
[05:02] <axis> CD Player is giving me a "drive error"
[05:02] <Antinomy> Amaranth: ok
[05:02] <deus> dataw0lf: ok backports.org makes old packages avalibe for new systems
[05:03] <Amaranth> Antinomy: for mplayer command should be 'gmplayer -zoom' (without quotes)
[05:03] <dataw0lf> deus: no.
[05:03] <Amaranth> Antinomy: that button there lets you pick an icon too
[05:03] <dataw0lf> deus: backports.ubuntuforums.org
[05:03] <axis> Antinomy: hey buddy use "gmplayer -vo x11"
[05:03] <Antinomy> Amaranth: great! what does gmplayer command mean? run mplayer?
[05:03] <Antinomy> Amaranth: and what is the - zoom?
[05:03] <Raptoid> is there klite codec pack for ubuntu ?
[05:04] <dataw0lf> Antinomy: gmplayer is a script that wraps around mplayer to give you a [G] ui
[05:04] <Amaranth> Antinomy: gmplayer runs mplayer with a GUI and -zoom makes it so you can go full screen
[05:04] <Antinomy> Amaranth: Great! may I ask you another question?
[05:04] <Amaranth> Raptoid: There is w32codecs, which is just as illegal as the klite codec pack.
[05:04] <axis> Antinomy,  I take it the script worked this time :)
[05:04] <Amaranth> Antinomy: Sure, but I have to go soon.
[05:04] <scena> datqw0lf: ok
[05:04] <Alfonso> hola alguien espaol????
[05:04] <scena> dataw0lf: i get "failed to bring up ethX" during ifup
[05:04] <Nermal> #ubuntu-es
[05:04] <Antinomy> Amaranth: the command g[appname]  runs the app, whether out of smeg or in a term
[05:04] <Raptoid> mplayer is broken and there comes no sound from xine for video clip
[05:04] <sproingie> !spanish
[05:04] <ubotu> well, spanish is Documentation in Spanish http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SpanishDocumentation
[05:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok can anyone answer my question?
[05:05] <Antinomy> Amaranth: ?
[05:05] <sproingie> bah
[05:05] <dataw0lf> scena: anything interesting in dmesg?
[05:05] <sproingie> !es
[05:05] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:05] <axis> FOAMY
[05:05] <scena> with an SIOCARRT: file exists
[05:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes?
[05:05] <Amaranth> Antinomy: yes, gmplayer runs it from the menu and from a terminal
[05:05] <hacked`> guys, my INSTALL document says "the installation requires the compiled kernel sources or headers against the matching kernel" what do i need to get from synaptic? i already apparently have linux-kernel-headers
[05:05] <dataw0lf> scena: do you know for a fact that you can run either of these interfaces in Ubuntu ?
[05:05] <axis> foamy: what's your problem
[05:05] <Amaranth> Antinomy: whatever you use to run it from a terminal, that's what you put in for 'Command'
[05:05] <Raptoid> Amaranth, w32codec has been download before
[05:05] <Antinomy> Amaranth: one more ?
[05:05] <scena> data: if i configute one with a different IP i can navigate the internet & the local net
[05:05] <Nermal> hacked`: that should be all then
[05:05] <Amaranth> Raptoid: Then you should be good to go.
[05:05] <sproingie> what's "alli obtendran mas ayuda" translate to?
[05:05] <Amaranth> Antinomy: Quickly, I really need to leave soon. :)
[05:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> axis i put a new soundcard in after disabling the old one in bios now i have no sound >.<
[05:06] <Antinomy> Amaranth: if I install an app anywhere in the file directory, i can still run it from "g[app] "?
[05:06] <ep> When I do alt-f2 and run 'gmplayer -zoom' (from KDE btw) I get an error dialog saying "maybe the font path is wrong".
[05:06] <dawkirst> Hello. Any mp3 ripping ap?!
[05:06] <Amaranth> Antinomy: g[app]  is only gmplayer, they aren't all like that :0
[05:06] <Raptoid> Amaranth, mplayer do you know why mplayer doesnt play ?
[05:06] <dataw0lf> scena: both of them?
[05:06] <Antinomy> Amaranth: i.e, there's no "porogram files" directory...
[05:06] <Amaranth> Antinomy: anything you install from a package should run, yes
[05:06] <scena> dataw0lf: they are the same model card, so id assume so
[05:06] <dataw0lf> scena: i.e., you've connected with both?
[05:06] <Antinomy> :)
[05:07] <Antinomy> Amaranth: many thanks
[05:07] <Amaranth> Now, I really have to go. :)
[05:07] <axis> ChurcH_of_FoamY, : double click on your sound mixer icon, go into prefeences
[05:07] <scena> dataw0lf: i can perofrm a quick test
[05:07] <dataw0lf> scena: and nothing interesting in dmesg?  gimme that link again.
[05:07] <axis> ChurcH_of_FoamY, : see if you can see your other card in there
[05:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[05:07] <Raptoid> mplayer dont close
[05:07] <dataw0lf> scena: yeah, perform that test whilst I check your interfaces config again.
[05:07] <scena> the link to my question?
[05:07] <Amaranth> Raptoid: run gmplayer
[05:07] <scena> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50437
[05:07] <djp> does anyone know if rhythmbox supports the speex codec?
[05:07] <dataw0lf> scena: thanks
[05:07] <deus> I keep getting heat from my apt: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code
[05:08] <dawkirst> Hello. Any mp3 ripping ap?!
[05:08] <axis> anybody having problems with the sources?
[05:08] <Raptoid> mplayer interrupted by signal 11 in module : demux_open
[05:08] <scena> dataw0lf: np. im testing now. bbias.
[05:08] <axis> everything is installing properly, nothing is working
[05:08] <deus> Could it be that the url is faulty or is it the server that got problems?
[05:08] <mpmc> When is the next release of Ubuntu out?
[05:08] <ptlo> oct 05
[05:08] <axis> ouch
[05:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i don't think that it can see the sound card >.<
[05:08] <mpmc> ok.. thx :)
[05:09] <Raptoid> mplayer crashed by bad usage of CPU/RAM bla bla blak..
[05:09] <axis> for some reason, my cds are mounting
[05:09] <dataw0lf> scena: ok, I see the problem.
[05:09] <mpmc> Same Old Story!!!!!!!!!!
[05:09] <Raptoid> Amaranth,
[05:09] <axis> but i can't play them
[05:09] <axis> wtf
[05:09] <ptlo> mpmc, they're regular, every 6 months
[05:09] <dataw0lf> eth1 needs to have eth0 as a gateway
[05:09] <Raptoid> Amaranth, mplayer crashed by bad usage of CPU/RAM bla bla bla...
[05:09] <dataw0lf> I'm guessing that eth0 is the one that you're routing to the internets.
[05:09] <axis> ubuntu is losing me
[05:09] <SpaceBass> hey folks... grabbed the latest ISO off the site and about to install... does it wipe the drive or will I be pompted at some point about partition info?
[05:09] <mpmc> anyone know a good Music Player.?
[05:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> same here
[05:09] <dawkirst> mpmc, I use Beep.
[05:09] <axis> mpmc:  apt-get install xmms
[05:10] <mpmc> so do i.
[05:10] <dups> mpmc: a jukebox like Itunes, or something like winamp
[05:10] <dups> which would be xmms
[05:10] <mpmc> Installin Plugins for bmp is very hard
[05:11] <axis> just install xmms
[05:11] <axis> it';s like winamp
[05:11] <axis> it'll play mp3's
[05:12] <ep> personally I've always hated winamp-like skins.  It seems like everybody tries to emulate it.
[05:12] <dawkirst> ep, I agree.
[05:12] <Bitmastr1> what's the difference between installer and daily installer?
[05:12] <Antinomy> Is it me, or does Ubuntu kind make it hard for the average user?
[05:12] <Bitmastr1> mpmc use gmpd
[05:13] <scena> dataw0lf: back
[05:13] <dataw0lf> scena: ok, /priv me
[05:13] <scena> dataw0lf: i disabled one card, gave it an IP that can get to the internet, and it can get out
[05:13] <dataw0lf> I think you might be a bit confused on network fundamentals
[05:13] <mpmc> gmpd??
[05:13] <Bitmastr1> use mpd
[05:13] <Bitmastr1> as a daemon to play music
[05:14] <Bitmastr1> and gmpd to control it
[05:14] <Antinomy> can anyone tell me how to kill a frozen app?
[05:14] <dataw0lf> ps aux | grep 'appname'
[05:14] <dataw0lf> kill -9 <pid>
[05:14] <dataw0lf> or
[05:14] <axis> is there any software that will make use of my surround sound
[05:14] <axis> for dvds
[05:14] <dataw0lf> ps aux | grep 'appname' | cut -d ' ' -f3 | xargs kill -9
[05:15] <Bitmastr1> antinomy: or killall "appname"
[05:15] <axis> does anybody here know anything at all
[05:15] <Antinomy> lol
[05:15] <veruus> no
[05:15] <spyguitar> quick one - where's the config file for X11?
[05:15] <axis> bunch of fucking wankers
[05:15] <axis> just as easy to install freebsd
[05:15] <axis> this ubuntu is garbage
[05:15] <Antinomy> Bitmastr1: ok...lemee try
[05:15] <axis> GARBAGE
[05:15] <veruus> hah
[05:15] <spyguitar> google is your friend, axis.
[05:16] <axis> ttorents don't work
[05:16] <axis> spyguitar,  thanks bud
[05:16] <Antinomy> lol
[05:16] <axis> spyguitar,  thanks for the tip
[05:16] <axis> i can install mplayer with all the codecs
[05:16] <axis> i can get sound to work
[05:16] <axis> but
[05:16] <axis> when i go to play an audio cd
[05:16] <axis> nothing
[05:16] <axis> bittorent starts up
[05:16] <axis> when i open a torrent
[05:16] <axis> it CLOSES
[05:16] <axis> azereus doesn't install
[05:16] <Antinomy> I have to say, if linux community wants to beat windows, it needs to become a lot more common-sensical
[05:16] <axis> according to the  guide install
[05:17] <scena> dataw0lf: its not really the 'internet'. its our corporate internet network
[05:17] <axis> or have some actual working how-to's
[05:17] <axis> gawd
[05:17] <veruus> axis: do you have java installed?
[05:17] <Antinomy> yeah, if one more person sends me to that "ubuntuguide"
[05:17] <Antinomy> I'll puke
[05:17] <loftus> !ubuntuguide
[05:17] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[05:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol yea i know
[05:17] <Bitmastr1> antinomy go to www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:17] <mpmc> how do I control mpd?
[05:17] <mindspin> Antinomy: Linux community doesn't want to eat anyone
[05:17] <Bitmastr1> :-D
[05:17] <axis> veruus, : why would i bother? gbittorent, and bittornado (plus bittornado-gui) installed fine
[05:17] <mindspin> beat
[05:17] <axis> BUT DON'T LOAD
[05:18] <Bitmastr1> with gmpd
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[05:18] <axis> when i type "bittornado-gui"
[05:18] <mpmc> url?
[05:18] <Bitmastr1> i mean GMPC
[05:18] <veruus> axis: azureus needs java
[05:18] <axis> or bittornado
[05:18] <veruus> :P
[05:18] <axis> veruus, : yah thanks for the tip, are you even readin what i'm saying
[05:18] <axis> veruus, : why would i bother? gbittorent, and bittornado (plus bittornado-gui) installed fine
[05:18] <Antinomy> LOL
[05:18] <mpmc> ok.. nm
[05:18] <axis> BUT DoN't have executables
[05:18] <veruus> yeah, you're bitching about azureus not working, for one
[05:18] <axis> no
[05:18] <axis> i'm bitching about it NOT EVEN INSTALLING
[05:18] <axis> let alone working
[05:19] <axis> i' m bitching about bittornado
[05:19] <axis> not working
[05:19] <Antinomy> "Do not advise people to use marillat, Debian has moved on after the Hoary freeze and may/will cause dependency problems"
[05:19] <Antinomy> ah, how clear.
[05:19] <axis> and the default bittorent client
[05:19] <Antinomy> glad I read that
[05:19] <axis> hahaha
[05:19] <axis> what am i supposed to do
[05:19] <axis> play fucking gnibbles
[05:19] <axis> all day
[05:19] <axis> fucking sweet
[05:19] <Antinomy> heheh
[05:19] <sproingie> !coc
[05:19] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[05:19] <Amaranth> axis: Language.
[05:19] <veruus> bittorrent and bittornado worked for me
[05:19] <veruus> don't know what to tell you
[05:19] <axis> COC suck my fucking balls
[05:19] <veruus> :)
[05:19] <axis> i'll be back on a vhost
[05:19] <axis> fuckers
[05:19] <axis> freedom of fucking speech
[05:20] <axis> garbage fucking ubunt crap
[05:20] <axis> bunt this
[05:20] <mindspin> nice people around this afternoon ;-)
[05:20] <sproingie> bye bye
[05:20] <axis> cyu in a bit
[05:20] <sproingie> i doubt it
[05:20] <hacked`> guys, how can i check if i have the linux source? in /usr/src/ i have linux-headers-2.6.10.5, rpm and linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2
[05:20] <dataw0lf> there it is
[05:20] <hacked`> but is it installed
[05:20] <dataw0lf> linux-source-2.6.10.tar.gz2
[05:20] <spyguitar> geez, thank you.
[05:20] <dataw0lf> err bz2
[05:20] <dataw0lf> uncompress and unarchive
[05:20] <hacked`> dataw0lf but is it installed
[05:20] <Antinomy> "Whether you are helping out on IRC, the mailing lists or the forums, always stay friendly to people, especially if you see they are new to linux. Give them wiki links instead of the command to use Google"
[05:20] <Antinomy> ah - THAT I understand.
[05:20] <hacked`> tar zxvf *.gz2 ?
[05:21] <dataw0lf> hacked`: in what sense?
[05:21] <dataw0lf> apt-get snagged it.
[05:21] <devios> I got an urgent problem here (trying to meet a deadline).  I have an external hdd hooked up (usb2) that was automatically mounted under /media/usbdisk.  It has 50GB of individual email files and their associated attachments on it.  I am trying to tar -czvf ~/allmail.tar.gz /media/usbdisk/*, and it starts to read the external drive for a few seconds, then the console I issued the command in crashes/autocloses and no .tar.gz file is created.  I really need to
[05:21] <devios> find a way to make any kind of archive file out of these files in a hurry to meet a looming deadline.  any helpp GREATLY appreciated.
[05:21] <hacked`> i got it via synaptic
[05:21] <Will_> Why was he complaining? It sounds like java was broken
[05:21] <dataw0lf> now uncompress and unarchive and make menuconfig or whatever you gotta do.
[05:21] <hacked`> doesnt synaptic install it? (uncompress it)
[05:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i think that i'm going to switch back to windows (on this computer) and put ubuntu on a lower end machene
[05:21] <hacked`> or else, thats useless
[05:21] <sproingie> beats me.  in all that ranting, i never saw a specific error message
[05:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i even bought point2play and it won't play the one game i bought it for
[05:22] <mpmc> how do I start Mpd?
[05:22] <DaSkreech> Can I use the Ubuntu install CD to reinstall GRUB?
[05:22] <hacked`> i dont think tar does .bz2
[05:22] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, yes
[05:22] <TokenBad> prob someone who just liked to rant in here..cause he figures he wouldn't get banned
[05:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm not deserting ubuntu
[05:22] <veruus> devios: can you copy the data to the system first?
[05:22] <spyguitar> i've just installed hoary on my powermac g4, dual-booting with OSX. when I boot into hoary, though, the screen is shifted maybe a centimeter to the left - does anyone know how to fix this, or where I can go for help?
[05:22] <veruus> then try tarring it?
[05:23] <mpmc> can someone please give a step by step guide.
[05:23] <devios> veruus: not enough room
[05:23] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, boot in expert mode then select the opion from the menu saying something like install bootloader
[05:23] <DaSkreech> I Saw a method on the Ubuntu Guide which seems Wrong to say the least
[05:23] <veruus> thought that might be a problem...
[05:23] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: There is no option there like that
[05:23] <veruus> devios: if the deadline is really important try getting another harddrive
[05:23] <veruus> :)
[05:23] <ax1s> Guess what. i have a bunch of free shells. i also have a few buds with *nix that have shells. guess what, we have lists of root .. guess what, i can come back ANY FUCKING TIME I WANT.
[05:23] <ax1s> Last but not least, UBUNTU SUCKS ANUS DONKEY MONKEY FUCK
[05:23] <ax1s> fucking GARBAGE
[05:23] <ax1s> BYEE
[05:23] <veruus> hah
[05:24] <veruus> tard
[05:24] <veruus> anyway
[05:24] <mpmc> :/
[05:24] <StarScream> nice
[05:24] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, oh
[05:24] <Will_> I can come in here whenever I want and abuse you all! Hah!
[05:24] <veruus> devios: try copying some data to the system and see if it gives you the same problewm
[05:24] <Burrito> hi
[05:24] <veruus> problem, rather
[05:24] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: If I do a normal install and hit esc I get a Menu that has install Bootloader
[05:24] <ax1s> Guess what. i have a bunch of free shells. i also have a few buds with *nix that have shells. guess what, we have lists of root .. guess what, i can come back ANY FUCKING TIME I WANT.
[05:24] <ax1s> Last but not least, UBUNTU SUCKS ANUS DONKEY MONKEY FUCK
[05:24] <mpmc> how do I start/confugure mpd/gmpc??
[05:24] <Burrito> i have a problem, can somebody help me out?
[05:24] <ax1s> fucking GARBAGE
[05:24] <ax1s> BYEE
[05:24] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: Both Grub and LILO
[05:24] <ax1s> Guess what. i have a bunch of free shells. i also have a few buds with *nix that have shells. guess what, we have lists of root .. guess what, i can come back ANY FUCKING TIME I WANT.
[05:24] <ax1s> Last but not least, UBUNTU SUCKS ANUS DONKEY MONKEY FUCK
[05:24] <ax1s> fucking GARBAGE
[05:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is it just me are is there a bunch of really mean people in here today
[05:24] <ax1s> BYEE
[05:24] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, yes, that is the menu I am talking about
[05:24] <ax1s> you can't
[05:24] <Burrito> Please add the files
[05:24] <Burrito>   codeset.m4 gettext.m4 glibc21.m4 iconv.m4 isc-posix.m4 lcmessage.m4
[05:24] <Burrito>   progtest.m4
[05:24] <Burrito> from the /usr/share/aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory
[05:24] <Burrito> or directly to your aclocal.m4 file.
[05:24] <spyguitar> somebody kill this guy?
[05:24] <Burrito> You will also need config.guess and config.sub, which you can get from
[05:24] <ax1s> Guess what. i have a bunch of free shells. i also have a few buds with *nix that have shells. guess what, we have lists of root .. guess what, i can come back ANY FUCKING TIME I WANT.
[05:24] <Burrito> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/config/.
[05:24] <Burrito> what should i do?
[05:25] <veruus> /ignore ax1s!*@*
[05:25] <veruus> :P
[05:25] <devios> veruus: trying, but it's 800,000+ files, so even a directory list takes forever...
[05:25] <dataw0lf> got his ip
[05:25] <dataw0lf> he'll be glined
[05:25] <scena> dataw0lf: but.. but... he has scripts!
[05:25] <hondje> and shells!
[05:25] <veruus> and multiple shells!
[05:25] <scena> WE'RE DOOMED!
[05:25] <veruus> oh my!
[05:25] <dataw0lf> OH MY!
[05:25] <mpmc> I'm confused
[05:25] <dataw0lf> heh
[05:25] <spyguitar> and buds with *nix!
[05:25] <scena> *rolls hsi eyes
[05:25] <StarScream> hehe
[05:26] <Amaranth> that's funny, those two times he was on the same machine
[05:26] <dataw0lf> If he can't get Ubuntu to work, I have doubts if he can operate IRC from a shell.
[05:26] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: Course when I try to run that entry it gives me an error about the file system
[05:26] <veruus> devios: don't know what to tell you - see if you can get another harddrive and copy to that then archive them
[05:26] <TokenBad> yeah if he has multiple shells
[05:26] <TokenBad> why when he rejoined it was same net?
[05:26] <veruus> it would be nice if you could rsync directly to a tar.gz file...
[05:26] <veruus> hmm...
[05:26] <mpmc> I'm asking very nicely.. can someone please tell me know ro use mpd, gmpc.
[05:26] <TokenBad> yeah saw that to..
[05:26] <Amaranth> mpmc: never heard of it
[05:26] <veruus> mpmc: what are they?
[05:26] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, what kind of error about the filesystem?
[05:27] <DaSkreech> mpmc: Whats mpd?
[05:27] <Bitmastr1> mpmc... it's not easy.. i should advise you
[05:27] <Bitmastr1> i mean as easy as xmms
[05:27] <Amaranth> anyway, if someone needs me, type '!ops'
[05:27] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: Would you believe I forgot :)
[05:27] <mpmc> I only wanna listen to tracks on my comp while coding...
[05:27] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, heh, fair enoug
[05:27] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: I'm on a Knoppix CD now trying to do a grub-install
[05:28] <veruus> mpmc: mpg123?
[05:28] <Amaranth> mpmc: from a CD?
[05:28] <DaSkreech> If you'd lilke I can jump to another computer and try so I can let you know the error
[05:28] <mpmc> no .. a mount
[05:28] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, would be helpful
[05:28] <veruus> xmms, beep-media-player
[05:28] <Amaranth> mpmc: gnome-cd for CDs; muine, rhythmbox, xmms, bmp, and more for music files
[05:28] <veruus> ?
[05:28] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: Uno Momento
[05:28] <veruus> yeah
[05:29] <Amaranth> UdontKnow: Someone just threatened us with a bot flood, I don't think it's going to happen though.
[05:31] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: Hi
[05:31] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, yo
[05:32] <UdontKnow> Amaranth: aah
[05:33] <RichiH> oi UdontKnow :p
[05:33] <UdontKnow> Amaranth: who threatened?
[05:33] <UdontKnow> RichiH: oi
[05:33] <Amaranth> UdontKnow: ax1s (~suckmypha@d150-126-33.home.cgocable.net)
[05:33] <Toasta> whats the dpkg command for reconfiguring your video card
[05:34] <PlanarPlatypus> Toasta, what card?
[05:34] <Toasta> ati
[05:34] <Toasta> radeon 9000
[05:34] <Amaranth> UdontKnow: He got a warning for swearing, threw a fit, got kicked, came back and threatened to release his shells and zombies.
[05:34] <Toasta> i installed the fglrx-control and it also reinstalled a driver that doesnt work
[05:34] <UdontKnow> Amaranth: lovely
[05:34] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: it says install into unclean target
[05:35] <aio> Toasta so what's it doing?
[05:35] <Amaranth> UdontKnow: I think it's just some kid who is trying to sound tough, actually.
[05:35] <aio> Toasta sorry if you mentioned above....
[05:35] <Toasta> the control panel works but i have no acceleration
[05:35] <hondje> I think Amaranth is right
[05:35] <PlanarPlatypus> Toasta, have you tried module assistant?
[05:35] <aio> Toasta have you modified your xorg.conf?
[05:35] <hondje> when you really are tough, you don't waste time threating to spam channels
[05:35] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, interesting, gimme a sec
[05:35] <wolki> hi!
[05:35] <tritium> Amaranth, when did this happen?
[05:36] <aio> hondje yeah - how bad do you have to be to beat up on the ubuntu folks?  we're mostly a bunch of pushovers :-)
[05:36] <wolki> How can i import mails from evolution to evolution?
[05:36] <Amaranth> tritium: about 10 minutes aho
[05:36] <Amaranth> tritium: you miss all the fun
[05:36] <hondje> yeah, really :)
[05:36] <tritium> Amaranth, yeah, I seem to :)
[05:36] <Toasta> no i havent done either
[05:36] <aio> Toasta if you're going to run fglrx, i'd recommend getting the latest from ati.
[05:36] <Amaranth> I wouldn't.
[05:37] <Amaranth> I'd recommend using the package ubuntu provides.
[05:37] <aio> Amaranth could i ask the reason?
[05:37] <Toasta> well i tried the new installer but it gets errors on intall
[05:37] <dataw0lf> I concur.
[05:37] <aio> Amaranth the latest from ati work *much* better for me (and other's i've read)
[05:37] <Toasta> and i have no acceleration, and i cant live without my acc
[05:37] <Amaranth> aio: It's always better to use a package, that way the package system can keep track of things.
[05:37] <aio> Amaranth i couldn't agree more with that reasoning, but the functionality is severly lacking in the package.
[05:37] <wolki> i have evolution data from a previous install on my hard drive, unfortunately due to hardware errors renamed to #xxxxxx. How does Evolution save its data?
[05:38] <scena> dataw0ld: did you respond? i turned away from my keyboard
[05:38] <dataw0lf> aio: and then people expect support from Canonical or through the forums / irc channel.
[05:38] <aio> Amaranth that's the only reason i diverge from packages.
[05:38] <scena> i HATE this freakin telnet irc
[05:38] <Amaranth> aio: Plus, sometimes kernel upgrades might require the driver to be recompiled. Using a package means this is all seamless for you.
[05:38] <ubuntu> ciao a tutti
[05:38] <aio> Amaranth datawolf - gotcha - you're right.  i retract the recommendation.
[05:38] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, not seen that one, is there a number with it?
[05:39] <hondje> wolki: in $HOME/.evolution
[05:39] <aio> Amaranth but I'm keeping mine installed :-)
[05:39] <gig> hello
[05:39] <Amaranth> aio: Basically if you tell someone to do something that is non-standard like that you had better be here to support them. :)
[05:39] <aio> Toasta so you need to update your xorg.conf file to reflect the fglrx package you've installed.
[05:39] <dataw0lf> Exactly.
[05:39] <Antinomy> Is there an english-language document that explains install processes (syn and manual)?
[05:39] <Amaranth> aio: Because I sure don't want to. :D
[05:39] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: no
[05:39] <Toasta> i thought that fglrxconfig did that
[05:40] <aio> Amaranth i jump in every time i see someone talking about it to try to help, but point well taken.
[05:40] <gig> aio hello
[05:40] <aio> Toasta i think fglrxconfig is a gui configuration tool to run some utilities
[05:40] <aio> gig hello
[05:40] <aio> Toasta but i don't think it'll change your xorg.conf file....i may be wrong.  lemme check...
[05:41] <Toasta> well it runs from promt and is text based
[05:41] <Toasta> and it says that it does write changes to xorg
[05:41] <gig> I not add package  into cd-install
[05:41] <aio> Toasta you're right - i was thinking ati control center.
[05:41] <aio> Toasta i modified mine by hand.  does it modify your xorg.conf.
[05:42] <gig> i can't add package cd-install
[05:42] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: Should  be able to install grub from the Command Line
[05:42] <aio> Toasta ?
[05:42] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: It is ash and seems to have almost no tools
[05:42] <Toasta> is there any reason i would get errors on install
[05:42] <Toasta> i used alien to install rpm driver
[05:42] <grogoreo> hi
[05:42] <aio> Toasta errors on installing the fglrx stuff or on trying to create the xorg.conf?
[05:42] <Toasta> it is modifying my xorg.conf file
[05:43] <gig> aio you play unbuntu linux.
[05:43] <Toasta> errors on install. not xorg.conf file
[05:43] <aio> gig i don't see a cd-install package in my repository and i have universe and multiverse repositories added.
[05:43] <grogoreo> I'm trying to print from GGV (ps viewer) but there is no print command in the GGV preferences. I'm using Hoary Ubuntu, what is the print command? I can print from other applications just not this
[05:43] <aio> Toasta what errors are you getting?
[05:44] <Toasta> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[05:44] <Toasta> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:44] <Toasta>  fglrx-6-8-0_8.14.13-2_i386.deb
[05:44] <tritium> grogoreo, lp
[05:44] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, interesting, I think I have found the error, hang about while I try and find out how to fix it
[05:44] <grogoreo> tritium, just that?
[05:44] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: ok thanks
[05:44] <grogoreo> I do have a default printer set
[05:44] <Toasta> thats the error i get
[05:44] <tritium> grogoreo, if you have a default printer, then you just need to specify a filename
[05:44] <aio> Toasta how are you trying to install?  through apt-get or synaptic (or some other)?
[05:45] <grogoreo> tritium: great thanks
[05:45] <gig> aio  you add package on cd of ubuntu linux.HOW To
[05:45] <tritium> grogoreo, sure :)
[05:45] <Toasta> i d/l from ati and used alien to install rpm
[05:45] <wolki> hondje: found it, thanks. is there an easy way to import evoultion data into evolution?
[05:45] <veruus> wolki: copy the files over?
[05:45] <tritium> grogoreo, you might try ggv instead of gv
[05:45] <hondje> wolki: yep, for calendars and stuff ctrl-I will import, for emails and address book, just copy them over
[05:45] <grogoreo> tritium: thats what I'm using
[05:45] <wolki> veruus: just copying the files over the new ones?
[05:46] <Toasta> aio will you be here awhile, i need to go take care of something, just a min
[05:46] <veruus> that *should* do it
[05:46] <veruus> :)
[05:46] <aio> Toasta ok - are you sure you want to install the ati drivers from ati and not the package installed with hoary
[05:46] <tritium> grogoreo, ggv has a "Print" button.
[05:46] <grogoreo> tritium, Gnome Ghostview 2.8.4. Well it's printing now anyway!
[05:46] <Antinomy> Question: I am clicking on an mpeg file on a website. It allows me to open with totem, or save to disk. I want to open it with xplayer. When I browse for "another application", how do I find another application generally, and Mplayer specifically?
[05:46] <aio> gig i'm not sure i know what you're trying to do.
[05:46] <veruus> Antinomy: /usr/bin
[05:46] <Antinomy> veruus: all of them?
[05:47] <veruus> find your player from there
[05:47] <veruus> :)
[05:47] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: I think It's because I have ubuntu Installed and I have done updates and customization etc
[05:47] <Antinomy> veruus: Ok..thanks. But can I ask you something...when I extract an app manually, do I need to always extract it there?
[05:47] <veruus> or find the path for your player app if it's not in /usr/bin
[05:47] <grogoreo> tritium, ye I know but it just said it couldn't print and in the preferences there was no print command. I'm not a CLI kind of guy
[05:47] <veruus> Antinomy: you can always just create a symlink
[05:48] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: I'm getting the felling that the install menu is serial I can't simply jump to the grub Loader
[05:48] <Antinomy> veruus: but outside of syn
[05:48] <ateves> if any germans are in here: what would be the right translation for the german word Impressum?
[05:48] <veruus> ln -s /where/ever/the/file/is /usr/bin/app_name
[05:48] <veruus> ?
[05:48] <tritium> grogoreo, try putting "/usr/bin/lp" in the "Printing Command" box
[05:49] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, did it ask you if you wanted to install to an unclean target?
[05:49] <DaSkreech> Yes
[05:49] <grogoreo> tritium, it worked with just lp, but I'll but /usr/bin too!
[05:49] <gig> aio I'm develop kubuntu  . I'm  I can't  add package  on cd.
[05:49] <Antinomy> veruus: it's not there.
[05:49] <veruus> heh
[05:49] <PlanarPlatypus> ateves, imprint
[05:50] <veruus> what player and where is it currently?
[05:50] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: If say yes it verifies a set of packages then fails
[05:50] <tritium> grogoreo, okay.  I observed that mine too did not have the printing command set, but I set it, and it works just fine.  It should work for you too.
[05:50] <Antinomy> veruus: mplayer
[05:50] <veruus> Antinomy: was is mplayer?
[05:50] <veruus> okay
[05:50] <veruus> $ locate mplayer
[05:50] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, waht happened to the drive which means you need to do this?
[05:50] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: with Console 3 showing a /target/usr/bin/awk; File exists error
[05:50] <Antinomy> veruus: I have no idea where the app is, and that's sort of the general problem
[05:50] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: REinstalled Windows
[05:51] <veruus> use locate, ding-dong
[05:51] <veruus> :)
[05:51] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: Well going to I want to make sure  can do this before
[05:51] <gig> aio you understan me.
[05:51] <wolki> veruus, hondje, looks like it works. i don't have my contacts or calendar, but i can create them again, that's no problem. thanks!
[05:51] <hacked`> guys, why am i getting gay "gcc: command not found", when synaptic shows gcc installed
[05:51] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, so this is a cual boot win/ubuntu system
[05:51] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: Yes
[05:51] <gig> hello hacked
[05:51] <veruus> wolki: hondje mentioned using ctrl+I to import your calendar
[05:51] <DaSkreech> so the drive is /dev/hdb1
[05:51] <veruus> see if that will work
[05:51] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, does it currently boot?
[05:51] <grogoreo> another question, I have Thunderbird installed and has worked great for ages but I've just tried to run it and the User Profile screen has popped up. This is the first time I've run the program so I dont know how the profile can still be in use. How can I de-use it?
[05:52] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: nope
[05:52] <tritium> hacked`, please don't use potentially offensive language
[05:52] <veruus> Antinomy: getting anything?
[05:52] <gig> I  problem add package on cd type install into harddisk.
[05:52] <hondje> wolki: yeah, ctrl-I for the calendar, and you have to wait for contacts to come back, for some reason...log out and in or something maybe, I didn't pay much attention when I did it the other week :)
[05:52] <Antinomy> veruus: it lists about 5,000 files, ding-dong. Perhaps this is an area where windows outclasses linux? Can someone prove me wrong? I always know where apps are in Chairman Bill's slopworks.
[05:52] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: fdisk /mbr
[05:52] <tritium> hacked`, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[05:52] <veruus> heh
[05:52] <DaSkreech> I have a live CD and a Ubuntu Install CD
[05:52] <veruus> try $ locate mplayer | grep mplayer
[05:53] <Antinomy> veruus: Why?
[05:53] <veruus> hmm...
[05:53] <gig> hello fabbione
[05:53] <Antinomy> veruus: why that command?
[05:53] <veruus> hocan't remember how to just return the exact phrase "mplayer"
[05:53] <gig> asdf
[05:53] <veruus> so you can see where the binary file is
[05:53] <DaSkreech> I tried grub-install from the live CD and is coughed up a read only file system though I can write into the /mnt/hdb1/boot folder
[05:53] <veruus> I don't have mplayer installed, so I don't knpow
[05:53] <veruus> know
[05:53] <tritium> Antinomy, you have mplayer installed?
[05:53] <hacked`> tritium, that fixed my problem, you are good
[05:54] <veruus> ah
[05:54] <tritium> hacked`, cool
[05:54] <veruus> can you just run mplayer from the command line?
[05:55] <Bitmastr1> veruus: is it a question or a suggestion?
[05:55] <Antinomy> veruus: ok, something like 200 files this time. WHY ISN'T THERE A CENTRALIZED FOLDER FOR APPLICATION FILES?!?!
[05:55] <aio> gig are you trying to install ubuntu from cd?  or install a package from the cd?
[05:55] <tritium> calm down, Antinomy
[05:55] <Bitmastr1> there is /usr/bin
[05:55] <veruus> Antinomy: there is, usually
[05:55] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, in that case I have really no idea unless you have a problem with your partition table or something else screwy like that, sorry
[05:55] <veruus> /usr/bin
[05:55] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: I can mount stuff and see it in the live CD
[05:55] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, on thing which might work is reinstalling windows which may fix the MBR problem
[05:55] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: I'm going to try a chroot then grub-install on the Live Cd
[05:55] <veruus> Antinomy: can you just run the command, mplayer?
[05:55] <PlanarPlatypus> could work
[05:56] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus:  I can  boot into Windows
[05:56] <veruus> if so, run "which mplayer"
[05:56] <PlanarPlatypus> ah
[05:56] <PlanarPlatypus> hmm
[05:56] <deFrysk> ! bootsplash
[05:56] <ubotu> Wish i knew, deFrysk
[05:56] <Antinomy> veruus:  I'll even take an extension I can search for. But it shouldnt be so hard to find apps, or associate them within my browser. which is why I dont want to just run it from the command line
[05:56] <deFrysk> ! splash
[05:56] <ubotu> deFrysk: I give up, what is it?
[05:56] <veruus> Antinomy: this will get us there
[05:56] <Antinomy> veruus: k
[05:56] <veruus> it wasn't my final solution
[05:56] <PlanarPlatypus> in that case really no idea, the chrrot idea sounds like it might get some results but this is outside the reals where i feel happy giving advice now :-)
[05:56] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: Thanks a lot
[05:56] <Antinomy> tritium: I'll be as calm or excited as I want, thanks.
[05:57] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: Is there actually a rescue option for the install CD?
[05:57] <tritium> Antinomy, fine, but out of kindness towards others, please don't yell at us in the channel.
[05:57] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: http://ubuntuguide.org/#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation
[05:57] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, I don't /think/ so but I am not 100% sure
[05:57] <Antinomy> tritium: no problem!
[05:58] <tritium> thanks
[05:58] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: Well preliminary science says no :-)
[05:58] <frank_> !ubuntuguide
[05:58] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[05:59] <tritium> Antinomy, dpkg -L <packagename> can be used to list the files in an installed package.  This is often useful.
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Sorry thats what Google spits out ;)
[05:59] <NetEcho> how would you go about mounting a NTFS partition from Ubuntu livecd?
[05:59] <veruus> ah, smart one there
[06:00] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, it seems to imply there is one
[06:00] <frank_> NetEcho: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/mntdir
[06:00] <Antinomy> tritium: cool - but I just don't know what I'm looking for. When I do a search for mplayer, for instance, I get a ton of files. cool. but once I have that list, how do I know which file is the executible(<---sorry if this is an offensive windows term or something)
[06:00] <NetEcho> thanks
[06:01] <veruus> Antinomy: look for the file that's just called mplayer
[06:01] <frank_> NetEcho: where /dev/hda2 is the right partition and /mnt/mndir is a mount point you create with mkdir
[06:01] <veruus> that's the executable
[06:01] <Antinomy> tritium: basically, I can point my browser - I just don't know what to point it at
[06:01] <Antinomy> veruus: ok
[06:01] <tritium> Antinomy, no, it was the all caps that wasn't so pleasant.  The word executable is fine.
[06:01] <NetEcho> frank_, how do I make it so I can access the music on it?
[06:02] <Antinomy> tritium: you made that point earlier. do you need to bring it up again?
[06:02] <tritium> Antinomy, what's the mplayer package you installed?
[06:02] <NetEcho> just cp it to my ubuntu homedir?
[06:02] <Antinomy> tritium: I got it the first time
[06:02] <frank_> When the partition is mounted, you get access to all the files on it
[06:02] <NetEcho> even from a media player?
[06:02] <tritium> Antinomy, it was you remark about "executable" that I was replying to
[06:02] <Antinomy> veruus: ok, so in general, a file that is simply named after the app is the executible?
[06:02] <NetEcho> cause the ubuntu media player isn't showing the files
[06:02] <bypark> 
[06:02] <tritium> Antinomy, no, typically they're in /usr/bin
[06:03] <Antinomy> tritium: Oh, I wasnt being passive agressive. I HATE windows as mnuch as the next guy and want to purge my vocab
[06:03] <tritium> Antinomy, let's find your mplayer package wth "dpkg -l | grep mplayer"
[06:03] <veruus> Antinomy: usually for most mainstream apps, yes
[06:03] <frank_> NetEcho: well you have to know where they are in you ntfs partition like /mnt/mntdir/music or whatever
[06:03] <tritium> Antinomy, okay, let's just work together here and get along.
[06:03] <Antinomy> tritium: ok, but let me ask you to parse that command so I learn and dont have to ask again
[06:03] <NetEcho> I already know where it is
[06:03] <NetEcho> ubuntu doesn't allow the media player to view the partition
[06:04] <Bitmastr1> question: suppose i'm runnig mencoder on a gnome terminal.. then i suddenly need to restart X... is there a way to "move the process" so that it isn't killed?
[06:04] <Antinomy> dpkg -I | greo mplayer
[06:04] <Antinomy> means?
[06:04] <frank_> NetEcho: can you browse to the files in nautilus?
[06:04] <Antinomy> grep, even
[06:04] <NetEcho> frank_, I can through the terminal
[06:04] <tritium> Antinomy, sure.  dpkg (the Debian package management tool) has many options.  The "-l" switch lists all the installed packages.  grep helps us filter for only strings containing "mplayer"
[06:04] <nikkia> Bitmastr1: unless you have the forethought to start the mencoder inside 'screen', no
[06:04] <Antinomy> ok thanks
[06:04] <NetEcho> it seems Rhythmbox would need to be ran somehow as room
[06:04] <NetEcho> *root
[06:05] <Bitmastr1> thx
[06:05] <frank_> Bitmastr1: yeah
[06:05] <mpmc> sorry about that bitmaster1
[06:05] <Antinomy> that makes sense. if i hear that, I learn, instead of just memorizing a command that doesnt mean anything to me...you know what I mean?
[06:05] <tritium> Antinomy, definitely.
[06:05] <tritium> And don't worry, it's not always this involved...
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Anyone know how I can list the devices from the grub shell?
[06:06] <Antinomy> tritium: Seriously, you have the oipportunity to keep me from going running back to chairman Bill, here...
[06:06] <Antinomy> ok running this command
[06:06] <tritium> Antinomy, well, that choice is yours, and I won't force my will upon you, but I will try to make your ubuntu experience a good one.
[06:06] <frank_> NetEcho: I don't know where the problem is
[06:07] <Antinomy> tritium: nah, save me!
[06:07] <Antinomy> tritium: lol
[06:07] <tritium> Antinomy, :);
[06:07] <Antinomy> tritium: ok nothing happened
[06:07] <tritium> yikes, mutant smiley
[06:07] <Antinomy> tritium: do I need to be super?
[06:07] <Antinomy> or run it from a certain dir?
[06:07] <tritium> Antinomy, no, that sounds like it's not really installed.  Are you sure it is?
[06:07] <DaSkreech> does /dev/hdb1 = (hd1,0)?
[06:07] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[06:07] <Antinomy> tritium: it's opened before
[06:08] <veruus> Antinomy: how did you install mplayer?
[06:08] <tritium> Antinomy, okay, let's search for it in synaptic (the gui package manager)
[06:08] <Antinomy> k
[06:08] <frank_> DaSkreech: yes
[06:08] <veruus> tritium: might not have been a deb package
[06:08] <SpaceBass> I installed with out creating any user other than root (b/c I intended to imeadatly join an AD domain for users) and now I cannot log in... not getting an IP so I cannot SSH either... how can I log in as root
[06:08] <veruus> :)
[06:08] <Antinomy> searching
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Why is it telling me unknown filesystem?
[06:08] <Antinomy> ok, about 8
[06:08] <tritium> veruus, good point.  Antinomy, you didn't install from source, did you?
[06:09] <elapsem> 
[06:09] <tritium> Okay, you found 8 different packages, Antinomy ?
[06:09] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, best way to list the devices is witht he tab completion
[06:09] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, I am not sure why it would be saying unknown filesystem though
[06:09] <SpaceBass> is there at least a way to reboot into command line so I can make a dummy user?
[06:09] <Antinomy> tritium: yes. I definitely didnt install this by an orthodox method, now that I'm a little clearer on all this
[06:09] <DaSkreech> PlanarPlatypus: And no it works
[06:09] <DaSkreech> now
[06:09] <Antinomy> tritium: yes, mplayer-386, 486, etc
[06:09] <PlanarPlatypus> DaSkreech, fair enough :-) Congratulations
[06:10] <Antinomy> -k6, -k7
[06:10] <tritium> Antinomy, hrm...dpkg -l | grep mplayer should have found those.  Strange.
[06:10] <Antinomy> yeah. should I reinstall ubuntu?
[06:10] <tritium> Antinomy, no, not at all.
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Hold on init 6
[06:10] <hacked`> guys, in a README file, it says that i should enable the Crypto library support (CONFIG_CRYPTO) and the following algorythm: ARC4 cipher algorithm (CONFIG_CRYPTO_ARC4)   does that mean i have to verify this with menuconfig ? if so i can see that its set as <M> ARC4 cipher algorithm
[06:10] <hacked`> is this enough
[06:10] <Antinomy> I think someone walked me through backports last night
[06:11] <SpaceBass> login as root... anyone?
[06:11] <tritium> Antinomy, if you prefer a gui, synaptic can also list the files in each of those packages (similar to the dpkg -L <packagename>)
[06:11] <tritium> SpaceBass, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:12] <Antinomy> tritium: ok, I can look here
[06:12] <Antinomy> tritium: WAIT! I think I mistyped the command
[06:12] <Antinomy> tritium: one sec
[06:12] <SpaceBass> tritium:  thanks for the link... unfortunatly I didnt create any users...
[06:12] <tritium> Antinomy, that would explain things ;)
[06:13] <zenlunatic> If I run universe and the default repositories, and not multiverse, is there still a chance my system could have 'non-free' software on it (free as in freedom)?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Victory is mine!!
[06:13] <NetEcho> frank_, did sudo mount mount the partition as read-only?
[06:13] <Antinomy> ok. can you type it again?
[06:13] <Antinomy> dpkg -L <packagename>
[06:13] <Antinomy> ?
[06:13] <frank_> frank
[06:13] <Antinomy> Is that an "L"?
[06:13] <tritium> Antinomy, yes, e.g. "dpkg -L mplayer-386"
[06:13] <tritium> yep
[06:13] <frank_> NetEcho: yes because its ntfs. which is always read only
[06:14] <tritium> SpaceBass, none?  How did that happen?  I suppose that prevents you from booting into recovery (single user) mode as well?
[06:14] <Antinomy> tritium: says it is not installed.
[06:14] <mpmc> how do I restart apache?
[06:15] <Crg> service apache restart
[06:15] <SpaceBass> tritium: trying recovery now...  this is my first time using ubuntu... goal was to login as root, set up kerberos authentication and use an AD domain for users... no need for local users other than root
[06:15] <tritium> mpmc, "sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart"  (or apache2 if that's what you have)
[06:16] <tritium> SpaceBass, oh.
[06:16] <tritium> Antinomy, your choice if you want to use the command line or synaptic
[06:17] <tritium> Antinomy, incidentally, you should be able to start typing "mplayer", and then hit "Tab", which should auto-complete any executable filenames beginning with "mplayer" in your $PATH.
[06:17] <envel> when the breezy will be released?
[06:17] <tritium> October, envel
[06:18] <kemik> can anyone recommend an (ssl) ftp client?
[06:18] <envel> ok, thanks
[06:18] <tritium> kemik, other than sftp?  gftp, if you're looking for a gui
[06:18] <DanielHolth> hi
[06:18] <DanielHolth> anyone using root-on-lvm in ubuntu?
[06:18] <Antinomy> tritium: yes, thank you.
[06:19] <Antinomy> tritium: ok, well...the dpkg line doesnt seem to work in the term - what should I do in syn?
[06:19] <frank_> Antinomy: do a search for mplayer
[06:20] <frank_> Antinomy: it will show you all the packages and which are installed (green square)
[06:20] <tritium> Antinomy, yes, and then you can see a listing of the files in each mplayer package you have installed.
[06:20] <keikoz> hi
[06:20] <cschaetzle> Hello
[06:20] <Antinomy> tritium: ok, I have the list of all the mplayer
[06:20] <Antinomy> wait a friggin minute.
[06:21] <Antinomy> maybe I should install them?
[06:21] <Antinomy> D'OH!
[06:21] <tritium> Antinomy, :)
[06:21] <Antinomy> tritium: but wait
[06:21] <Antinomy> tritium: if none of these are installed, how come mplayer runs?
[06:21] <Antinomy> tritium: GRRR
[06:22] <cschaetzle> I have a problem with a w-lan printer!
[06:22] <tritium> Antinomy, you've got me, unless you installed from source.
[06:22] <Antinomy> from source, meaning that I dled the tar and extracted and compiled...right?
[06:22] <tritium> Antinomy, right.
[06:22] <cschaetzle> The printer is connect with the network!
[06:23] <Antinomy> tritium: thats what I did, I'm sure.
[06:23] <Antinomy> tritium: from source
[06:23] <Sputn1k> how to install .deb?
[06:23] <Will_> dpkg -i file.deb
[06:23] <dataw0lf> dpkg -i x.deb
[06:23] <Sputn1k> thx
[06:23] <frank_> Antinomy: why did you install from source?
[06:23] <Will_> I think dpkg -help | less will tell you more about it
[06:24] <tritium> Antinomy, oh, well that is not under package management, so we can't find its files with dpkg or synaptic.
[06:24] <Antinomy> frank_: I was taking the advice of a fellow community member
[06:24] <cschaetzle> the conection is PRTmate
[06:24] <Antinomy> tritium: ok, should I just install one of these packages in syn?
[06:25] <cschaetzle> but itn't give  the connection !
[06:25] <frank_> Antinomy: I would try to delete the one you have now before doing that
[06:25] <cschaetzle> pleas Help me!?
[06:25] <tritium> Antinomy, yes, but we should also see if you can locate the version you installed from source.  Do you still have the directory where you untarred it?
[06:25] <Antinomy> frank_: how do I do that?
[06:25] <SpaceBass> tritium:  I was able to get into single user mode and create a user...
[06:26] <Antinomy> tritium: I dont think so. I can do a search for files tho.
[06:26] <SpaceBass> but not I cannot use sudo
[06:26] <SpaceBass> root password does not work for sudo
[06:26] <Sputn1k> how to change ubuntu language?
[06:26] <frank_> Antinomy: locate mplayer | less
[06:26] <Antinomy> frank_: please parse that for me?
[06:26] <Antinomy> frank_: what does that command mean?
[06:27] <NetEcho> Antinomy,  it searches for the program
[06:27] <tritium> Antinomy, I'm going to let frank_ help you.   I need to get going.
[06:27] <tritium> SpaceBass, what root password are you referring to?
[06:27] <Antinomy> tritium: thanks, and no hard feelings I'm from New York City and read angrier than I really am
[06:27] <tritium> Antinomy, none at all.  I'm sorry if I snapped at you.
[06:27] <Sputn1k> how to change ubuntu language????
[06:28] <frank_> ? locate (the files with) mplayer | (pipe to) less (which organizes the output so it doesn't fly on the console)
[06:28] <Antinomy> frank_: thank you. I like that sort of explanation, it helps me learn
[06:28] <tritium> SpaceBass, I need to get going here.  I'm sure someone here can help you out...
[06:28] <kemik> so there's no graphical FTP client with ssl support?!
[06:28] <tritium> kemik, gftp?
[06:29] <frank_> kemik: they probably all have ssl support. just a guess
[06:29] <Bitmastr1> sputn1k in synapticinstall language-pack-(code of your language)
[06:29] <kemik> gftp has no ssl support
[06:29] <Antinomy> frank_: ok, got a list. Should I delete all these?
[06:29] <kemik> had "ssh2" login.. not the same
[06:29] <kemik> frank_:  doesnt seem so
[06:30] <frank_> Antinomy: Yeah I think so. at least the files in /usr/bin
[06:30] <Antinomy> ok, brb
[06:30] <frank_> kemik: ok I don't really know about that
[06:31] <Antinomy> frank_: Actually, how could I modify the locate command to list the mplayer files in usr/bin
[06:31] <Antinomy> ?
[06:31] <lqb> Hi
[06:31] <lqb> where apt-get source save the file?
[06:32] <Bitmastr1> what fle?
[06:32] <frank_> Antinomy: I don't know
[06:32] <Bitmastr1> maybe /var/cache/apt/archive
[06:33] <lqb> aja
[06:33] <lqb> one sec
[06:33] <dbw> hi
[06:33] <dbw> how can i get info on an mp3 file?
[06:33] <dbw> bitrate, length, metadata, etc
[06:33] <dbw> without playing it
[06:33] <lqb> nothing
[06:33] <lqb> :S
[06:34] <mpmc> how do I stop the termial making the PC beep!
[06:34] <Bitmastr1> maplyer -v file.mp3
[06:34] <snowblink> mpmc, rip out the speaker
[06:34] <mpmc> :/ now funny
[06:34] <mpmc> not*
[06:35] <snowblink> sorry - you edit your profile
[06:35] <Antinomy> frank_: in windows, I needed to use a system app to uninstall another app. in ubuntu, I only have to delete the files?
[06:35] <snowblink> mpmc, untick terminal bell
[06:35] <frank_> Antinomy: since you installed from source. yeah you just delete
[06:36] <Antinomy> ok, wish me luck!
[06:36] <samu> where do you dl more dictionaries for openoffice?
[06:36] <frank_> Antinomy: It's much better to use apt-get / synaptic so that its much easier to uninstall and keep track of what you have
[06:36] <snowblink> lqb, your current directory
[06:37] <frank_> Antinomy: but when you delete like that, you have to be sure to not delete something you need
[06:37] <Antinomy> frank_: um...ok...
[06:37] <Antinomy> frank_: any easy way to tell? :)
[06:38] <soultaker> hello to all
[06:38] <soultaker> i have a question
[06:38] <soultaker> i em runing the ubuntu from the live CD
[06:38] <soultaker> my question can i just copy the live cd to a hard drive and boot to the hard drive
[06:38] <soultaker> to get everything safe?
[06:38] <frank_> if its called mplayer or in a directory called mplayer, you can delete
[06:38] <Antinomy> can't I just install mplayer from Syn over it? :)
[06:39] <frank_> Antinomy: I don't know about that
[06:39] <soultaker> any one ?
[06:39] <Antinomy> k
[06:39] <frank_> soultaker: install from the install cd, not the live cd
[06:39] <RQ> Antinomy, what makes you want mplayer so much? ;] 
[06:39] <nophix> soultaker: i think the livecd has a installer iirc
[06:40] <robotgeek> Antinomy: why not vlc?
[06:40] <RQ> no i don't think it does
[06:40] <soultaker> hello
[06:41] <frank_> RQ: mplayer is the media player I find plays the widest variety of formats (except dvd)
[06:42] <soultaker> i em lagging
[06:42] <soultaker> brb
[06:42] <robotgeek> frank_: vlc does that for me :)
[06:42] <frank_> robotgeek: what about real player and quicktime?
[06:43] <robotgeek> frank_: quicktime, i think yes...but real player, the new codecs...no, have to use realplayer for that. plus i'm on ppc :)
[06:44] <frank_> robotgeek: I agree with ppc, you can't use w32codecs anyways
[06:44] <robotgeek> frank_: everyhtime there something interesting, i burn it on a cd and watch it!
[06:49] <emX> anyone have any experience installing ubuntu to a usb key?
[06:50] <frank_> nope. you probably need a 2Gig key, right?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> emX,  Not me. :P  I do recall  reading that thers some disrtos out designed just for being on a usb key.
[06:51] <emX> Dr_Willis: yeah, i know.
[06:51] <emX> Dr_Willis: i'm more interested in taking the live cd and tweaking it to run off usb
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> I think you can boot the live cd and have its home and some settings on a usb key.
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Or was that the latest Knoppix that could do that.
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Getting to be a lot of live cd's out.
[06:51] <emX> Dr_Willis: ubuntu can do persistent home, but that's not what i'm looking for.
[06:52] <Antinomy> frank_: Hey, one quick question - how do I delete a bunch of full directories
[06:52] <Antinomy> rmdir?
[06:52] <emX> frank_: rm -rf DIRS? careful, though.
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> i recall the ubuntu installer seeing my external usb hard drive. :P but i wasent brave enough to try to install it there.
[06:52] <frank_> Antinomy rm -r /starting/directory
[06:52] <Antinomy> emX: was that for me?
[06:52] <emX> Dr_Willis: hmmm. that would make it quite easy...
[06:52] <emX> Antinomy: yeah, soory.
[06:52] <emX> *sorry
[06:52] <Antinomy> cool thanks
[06:53] <frank_> be very careful if you sudo that
[06:53] <emX> Antinomy: just don't delete anything important ;_
[06:53] <Antinomy> frank, emx: only deleting within an Mplayer folder
[06:53] <Super_BQ> hi
[06:53] <Super_BQ> i'm thinking of trying Ubuntu
[06:54] <Super_BQ> but their support website doesn't show if it does router and if the firewall can be configurable?
[06:54] <Antinomy> emX: could you parse that command for me?
[06:54] <Antinomy> what doies it mean?
[06:54] <Antinomy> does
[06:54] <Super_BQ> will it route like IPCHAINS IPTABLES?
[06:54] <frank_> -r recursive, -f force
[06:54] <emacsen> Is the commercial support not available for Ubuntu (yet) ?
[06:54] <Antinomy> and DIRS?
[06:55] <Antinomy> is that where I name them?
[06:55] <Antinomy> or will it take all of them out?
[06:55] <frank_> Antinomy rm -r /home/frank/downloads will take out downloads and everything under it
[06:55] <Antinomy> ok thanks
[06:56] <frank_> Super_BQ: Ubuntu is linux, for networking, it works like pretty much any other linux
[06:58] <Super_BQ> frank_: ok just didn't see any details in this area on their support webpage
[06:58] <Super_BQ> so I can linuxconf to do the changes?
[06:58] <frank_> uh... no
[06:59] <emacsen> Super_BQ: don't use Linuxconf. It's sucked since it was invented. Use the command line tools or the Ubuntu GUI tools
[06:59] <Super_BQ> netconf?
[06:59] <frank_> I don't know those
[07:00] <Super_BQ> the PC only has 128MB ram - GNOME will be too much of a hog (for GUI)
[07:01] <scena> What's a goot router package to get for Ubuntu?
[07:02] <Tomcat_> "router package"
[07:02] <Tomcat_> -+?
[07:02] <scena> application a better term?
[07:02] <Tomcat_> You only need to activate a few things for routing... there's no need for any apps.
[07:02] <Antinomy> question, all: I deleted a folder. when I ls, it isnt there.  WHen I try to redelete, it isn't there. but when I "locate" it, it still shows up. any ideas?
[07:02] <swales> What's the command to redo the initial setup things? like keyboard, video?
[07:02] <scena> tomcat: like?
[07:03] <Tomcat_> Antinomy: locate only updates the database once a week or so...
[07:03] <emacsen> Antinomy: yeah locate updates only once a day
[07:03] <Antinomy> Tomcat_: so it's gone?
[07:03] <Tomcat_> Antinomy: Do "sudo updatedb", I think that will fix it.
[07:03] <Tomcat_> Antinomy: Yes.
[07:03] <Antinomy> emacsen: can I force and update?
[07:03] <emacsen> Tomcat_: no.. it's in the crontab as daily
[07:03] <Antinomy> an
[07:03] <frank_> Antinomy: sudo updatedb will reset the locate database
[07:03] <Antinomy> k thanks fellsa
[07:03] <emacsen> Antinomy: yeah so what they said :)
[07:03] <Antinomy> fellas
[07:03] <scena> brb
[07:03] <Antinomy> hehe
[07:04] <raveneye> Hi everybody, I'm getting this when dling ubuntu liveCd
[07:04] <Tomcat_> scena: Search the ubuntuforums for routing, or read that guide: http://lartc.org/
[07:04] <Tomcat_> emacsen: Thanks, thought it was weekly. :)
[07:05] <raveneye> there is not enough room on the disk to download /tmp/jkjezv2u.exe
[07:05] <raveneye> is there ana .exe in there?
[07:05] <Tomcat_> raveneye: What does "df -h" tell you about the filesystem that /tmp is in?
[07:05] <Super_BQ> kudzu?
[07:06] <raveneye> Tomcat_, wht worries me is the .exe...
[07:06] <mumbles-out> wooo my night corse has been caceled tonight
[07:06] <swales> What's the command to redo the initial setup things? like keyboard, video?
[07:06] <funkyHat> i got an odd mail from dpkg.... something about XF86, which of course, i'm not using
[07:07] <scena> back
[07:08] <funkyHat> it was telling me to edit some FontPath variables for truetype and CID fonts...
[07:08] <mumbles-out> apparetnley the garden center next to it caught alight
[07:08] <funkyHat> do i need to do something equivalent in xorg.conf?
[07:09] <scena> tomcat: im looking at it now
[07:09] <zAo^> where can I find the clearlooks-theme for FireFox?
[07:09] <funkyHat> hah, i was last week as well, when installed the system. i guess i don't
[07:09] <Wckdkl0wn> who in here has experience insxtalling Xmms-Perl-0.12
[07:10] <Wckdkl0wn> anyone?
[07:11] <zAo^> sorry Wckdkl0wn
[07:11] <Wckdkl0wn> ok
[07:11] <Wckdkl0wn> ty anyway
[07:11] <raveneye> Question: Should there be an .EXE file in the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[07:12] <zAo^> raveneye, I dont think so: only and index.html??
[07:12] <zAo^> and == an ^^
[07:12] <mpmc> can some explain.. why this config is wrong
[07:12] <truz24> Anyone know why php5 isn't in the ubuntu repositories?
[07:13] <mpmc> music_directory media/windows/Media\ Files/Music
[07:13] <mpmc> playlist_directory /etc/playlist/
[07:13] <mpmc> log_file /etc/mpdlog.err
[07:13] <mpmc> error_file /etc/mpd.errlog
[07:13] <mpmc> db_file /etc/mpddb.db
[07:13] <mpmc> max_connections 2
[07:13] <mpmc> sorry about the spam like.. paste
[07:13] <zAo^> truz24, got the full repos?
[07:13] <RQ> truz24, it's not in debian either...
[07:14] <joe_> hi
[07:14] <truz24> is this because its not "stable" yet ?
[07:14] <mpmc> Please
[07:14] <RQ> hi joe_
[07:14] <truz24> It seems that a lot of poeple use it
[07:14] <joe_> how can i install Java
[07:14] <joe_> using apt get command
[07:14] <RQ> truz24, i'd like to be able to use it too :)
[07:14] <joe_> i'm new to linux in genera
[07:14] <RQ> !java
[07:14] <ubotu> java is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[07:14] <joe_> and i've got Ubuntu
[07:14] <truz24> RQ, well I guess we are reduced to installing it from source
[07:15] <RQ> click on the link ubotu gave you
[07:15] <mpmc> Can someone help me configure mpd
[07:15] <RQ> truz24, or wait :)
[07:15] <truz24> :-)
[07:15] <truz24> I'd also like to be able to play with some JSP scripts and etc, but I have no idea what packages are needed for that.
[07:15] <joe_> any ideas?
[07:16] <RQ> joe_,
[07:16] <RQ> !java
[07:16] <ubotu> [java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[07:16] <joe_> yeah
[07:16] <RQ> click there
[07:16] <joe_> oh ok
[07:16] <RQ> good
[07:17] <joe_> how do i check my sources list to make sure multiverse is added?
[07:17] <joe_> where is my sources list
[07:18] <scena> man this routing thing is deeper than i thought.
[07:18] <joe_> yeah i'm really green i know!...lol
[07:18] <Grid_block> hey everyone! anyone know of any good WYSIWYG editors?
[07:18] <RQ> joe_, you can use synaptic or edit /etc/apt/sources.list by hand
[07:18] <joe_> i've got kynaptic
[07:18] <HappyFool> joe_: the file is /etc/apt/sources.list; you can also use synaptic (system -> admin -> synaptic) to change you sources
[07:19] <RQ> never seen it
[07:19] <HappyFool> Grid_block: maybe openoffice.org writer?
[07:19] <mpmc> :'(
[07:19] <Antinomy> all: I want to install mplayer from the synaptic gui. But it's listing dependencies it cannot find. any ideas? is there a deb file I need to enable?
[07:19] <RQ> nvu
[07:19] <Grid_block> HappyFool, sorry i ment a WYSIWYG html editor
[07:20] <RQ> nvu.
[07:20] <zAo^> Antinomy, what does it need?
[07:20] <RQ> or quanta
[07:20] <Raptoid> breezy release ?
[07:20] <raveneye>  Question: Should there be an .EXE file in the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[07:20] <RQ> Antinomy, what deps?
[07:20] <joe_> before i go to too much effort doe synaptic have a P2P
[07:20] <Antinomy> zAo^: LONG list...
[07:20] <RQ> raveneye, yes
[07:20] <Antinomy> want me to copy paste?
[07:20] <zAo^> Antinomy, dont paste plz :)
[07:20] <zAo^> ;)
[07:20] <mpmc> lol
[07:20] <zAo^> are you in universe?
[07:20] <hacked`> guys, in a README file, it says that i should enable the Crypto library support (CONFIG_CRYPTO) and the following algorythm: ARC4 cipher algorithm (CONFIG_CRYPTO_ARC4)   does that mean i have to verify this with menuconfig ? if so i can see that its set as <M> ARC4 cipher algorithm
[07:21] <raveneye> why?
[07:21] <Antinomy> ok
[07:21] <RQ> raveneye, so that you can install openoffice in windows
[07:21] <RQ> ;)
[07:21] <Antinomy> what does that mean? I added universe debs, if thats what you mean
[07:21] <RQ> or firefox or thunderbird
[07:21] <HappyFool> !pastebin
[07:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[07:21] <HappyFool> you can paste there
[07:21] <raveneye> there is not enough room on the disk to download /tmp/jkjezv2u.exe
[07:21] <raveneye> is that oo?
[07:21] <RQ> don't think so
[07:22] <zAo^> Antinomy, did you do a `sudo apt-get update`?
[07:22] <RQ> looks rather like a virus
[07:22] <Antinomy> did i reload the package lists?
[07:22] <_paco_> is brezzy ubuntu out ?
[07:22] <Grid_block> anyne know of  a good WYSIWYG editor for HTML?
[07:22] <RQ> Antinomy, reload it
[07:22] <RQ> Grid_block, damn you! NVU or QUANTA
[07:22] <zAo^> Grid_block, try #linux, dont spam plz
[07:22] <mpmc> Can someone, Please help me with MPD
[07:22] <zAo^> mpd?
[07:22] <RQ> music player daemon
[07:22] <Antinomy> Hmmm...reloaded and got this W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[07:23] <Grid_block> RQ, why so angry?
[07:23] <mpmc> yes
[07:23] <Grid_block> zAo^, i didnt spam....did i?
[07:23] <zAo^> Antinomy, thats fine
[07:23] <Antinomy> ok
[07:23] <Bubbling_Zombie> Antinomy, don't use nerim
[07:23] <mpmc> music player daemon
[07:23] <raveneye> RQ I'm dling from the official link
[07:23] <Antinomy> so try to install?
[07:23] <my_haz> How do i turn of the BEEP!!!
[07:23] <RQ> Grid_block, cuz i had to repeat it three times for you to notice
[07:23] <zAo^> Grid_block, you asked the same thing 3 times now
[07:24] <mpmc> What beep
[07:24] <Grid_block> zAo^, i think it was 2 times... anyway
[07:24] <RQ> raveneye, interesting
[07:24] <zAo^> pff.
[07:24] <zAo^> Antinomy, yes, try
[07:24] <Antinomy> ok, tried to install mplayer, but still getting an error.
[07:24] <raveneye> RQ tried it in two pcs, two SOs
[07:24] <zAo^> Antinomy, post it in a PM to me plz
[07:25] <raveneye> get the same
[07:25] <Antinomy> "could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade"
[07:25] <Grid_block> RQ, sorry if i didnt see it... its pretty hard to find when u dont type my nick and the message
[07:25] <mpmc> Please. I need help with MPD
[07:25] <Antinomy> do you need the body of the message?
[07:25] <RQ> hm. what exactly are you dl'ing, raveneye ? ;] 
[07:25] <raveneye> the Live CD
[07:25] <zAo^> Antinomy, only the error msg
[07:25] <raveneye> RQ x86.
[07:25] <Antinomy> ok, that was it
[07:25] <RQ> Grid_block, ok. however, if I say your nickname in a separate line, you should check wether i've said anything to you nearby ;)
[07:26] <RQ> raveneye, hmm...
[07:26] <RQ> raveneye, shouldn't that be an iso file? ;] 
[07:26] <RQ> not an EXE
[07:26] <raveneye> RQ right
[07:26] <adwait> can someone help me with cron jobs? i set them up.....but they just wont run.......
[07:26] <raveneye> that's what worries me
[07:27] <Antinomy> zAo^: you got that? ^
[07:27] <zAo^> no?
[07:27] <zAo^> lol
[07:27] <Antinomy> ok lol
[07:27] <Antinomy> "could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade"
[07:27] <RQ> Antinomy, that's not an error
[07:27] <RQ> it's a warning
[07:27] <RQ> i think ;))
[07:27] <adwait> can someone help me with cron jobs? i set them up.....but they just wont run.......
[07:27] <Antinomy> feels like one/
[07:28] <Antinomy> :)
[07:28] <zAo^> Antinomy, I want the dependency error msg :)
[07:28] <RQ> adwait, check the syslog? :)
[07:28] <Antinomy> ok one sec
[07:28] <zAo^> Antinomy, PM ;-)
[07:28] <RQ> adwait, and there's no need to repeat that line every minute btw
[07:28] <joe_> hello
[07:28] <dieffel> Hi!  Anyone who successfully instelled dvd::rip on Ubuntu 5.04... i'm having probs. with installing the needed "transcode" ? help!
[07:29] <joe_> how can i take a look at what is in sources.list
[07:29] <adwait> RQ: yeah......sorry..but i figured nobody noticed the first time.......so id send it again
[07:29] <RQ> joe_, use any text editor you like
[07:29] <RQ> adwait, well, i think, it was noticed. :)
[07:30] <adwait> RQ: hmm
[07:30] <RQ> what doesn't run?
[07:32] <adwait> RQ: well......i cant really find anything in the syslog......any ideas?
[07:32] <zAo^> dmesg?
[07:33] <adwait> RQ: i am trying to run a script
[07:33] <RQ> where did you put it?
[07:33] <RQ> how did you reference it to cron?
[07:33] <adwait> 00 * * * * ./down
[07:33] <RQ> does it have an executable bit set? :)
[07:34] <RQ> what is "./" ?;] 
[07:34] <adwait> RQ: yes.........it runs normally, when i try to run it from the terminal
[07:34] <RQ> enter full path there
[07:34] <RQ> instead of "./"
[07:34] <joe_> ok another issue
[07:34] <joe_> how do i log in as root
[07:34] <adwait> RQ: the cron jobs just dont seem to get executed.........i even tried editing the root crontab and setup a reboot, nothing ever happened
[07:34] <RQ> joe_, sudo bash
[07:34] <zAo^> sudo -s
[07:34] <adwait> joe_: therss no root acc in ubuntu
[07:34] <zAo^> same ;)
[07:35] <RQ> yeah ;] 
[07:35] <joe_> cause i'd like to change the source.list
[07:35] <joe_> but don't have the permissions
[07:35] <zAo^> there is no password set, to be precise :)
[07:35] <RQ> sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:35] <HappyFool> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ; enter your user password
[07:35] <RQ> darn
[07:35] <zAo^> or sudo passwd root :-$
[07:35] <zAo^> lol
[07:36] <RQ> vim :)
[07:36] <adwait> RQ: well.....i tried entering the full path...but still nothing :(
[07:37] <RQ> adwait, well actually, i've never used the users crontab file
[07:37] <RQ> so if you do so, i don't know what the problem might be
[07:37] <adwait> ok
[07:37] <RQ> i always use the global crontab :)
[07:38] <HappyFool> adwait: have you used cron before?
[07:38] <RQ> (that's because i'm too lame to learn and i'm a root)
[07:38] <RQ> :D
[07:39] <adwait> HappyFool: nope.......trying for the first time
[07:39] <scena> man this thing reads like stereo instructions
[07:39] <MarcC> what's an alternative to gFTP?
[07:39] <scena> im going to paw ovber this & come back with any questions ive got
[07:39] <adwait> RQ: well......now i edited the global crontab....lets see if this works
[07:39] <zAo^> MarcC, there is a kftp :P
[07:39] <RQ> adwait, i hope it's 755? :)
[07:39] <adwait> RQ: :(........still nothing......cron job never rann
[07:40] <RQ> check the syslog ;)
[07:40] <zAo^> ;)
[07:40] <adwait> RQ: 755?
[07:40] <RQ> executable
[07:40] <MarcC> zAo^, does it let you type in CHMOD numbers?
[07:40] <RQ> and readable by everyone
[07:40] <zAo^> MarcC, oef; donno. Sorry. Otherwhise; use Nautilus ;)
[07:40] <HappyFool> adwait: is cron running? 'pgrep cron' should tell you. (it ought to be)
[07:41] <RQ> yeah. i wonder about it too
[07:41] <adwait> HappyFool: yes it is......pgrep gave me to PIDs
[07:41] <HappyFool> two ?
[07:41] <joe_> this isn't working
[07:41] <ShadowUser> Oh my god.. My brother was on my comp again.
[07:41] <ShadowUser> >_<;
[07:41] <adwait> RQ: hmm....../etc/crontab is not executable.....should i make it executable
[07:41] <HappyFool> joe_: there are some pages on the wiki to help you with repositories
[07:41] <adwait> ?
[07:42] <HappyFool> adwait: no
[07:42] <RQ> no
[07:42] <HappyFool> !repositories
[07:42] <ubotu> [repositories]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:42] <joe_> i'm trying to add multiverse to my sources list
[07:42] <ShadowUser> Hello friends.
[07:42] <ShadowUser> hehe..
[07:42] <HappyFool> !apt
[07:42] <ubotu> apt is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[07:42] <adwait> HappyFool: yeah.......somehow there are two PIDs listed
[07:42] <ShadowUser> I finally got my ubuntu cds..
[07:42] <HappyFool> adwait: is it possible your script is blocking?
[07:42] <ShadowUser> 6 weeks later. >_<;
[07:42] <joe_> thanx
[07:42] <RQ> ghm
[07:42] <ShadowUser> It's a great os
[07:42] <adwait> HappyFool: i dont think so.......i mean the script runs fine when i normally run it, as a normal user
[07:43] <ShadowUser> But i prefer XP. :P
[07:43] <adwait> without cron, just thry the terminal
[07:43] <HappyFool> adwait: how about 'pgrep <nameofyourscript>' ?
[07:43] <Snuffkin> I'm trying to boot the Ubuntu 5.04x86 livecd, X says 'no screens found', Radeon X800 PCIE.
[07:43] <RQ> wow
[07:43] <RQ> :D
[07:43] <RQ> jazz:/home/rq# pgrep cron |wc -l
[07:43] <RQ> 33
[07:43] <ShadowUser> Worked Perfectly for me
[07:44] <RQ> adwait, try `ps aux |grep cron`
[07:44] <ShadowUser> Good old Radeon 7000. *hugs*
[07:44] <HappyFool> hmm. i have 1 cron process
[07:44] <adwait> HappyFool: nothing
[07:44] <adwait> RQ: cron seems to be running
[07:44] <RQ> HappyFool, i have 33 lines in `pgrep cron`;D
[07:44] <RQ> senseless
[07:44] <HappyFool> maybe it's updatedb or some other system cron job
[07:44] <RQ> adwait, /usr/sbin/cron?
[07:45] <qt2> does anyone have any experience with intellimouses and/or tiltwheels?
[07:45] <adwait> RQ: yes
[07:45] <RQ> hm...
[07:45] <RQ> could it be that it's busy waiting for something else to finish?
[07:45] <RQ> adwait, try restarting cron
[07:45] <HappyFool> adwait: i put this line in a file called 'simple', and ran 'crontab simple' -- now cron is e-mailing me a filelist every minute
[07:45] <RQ> plus, use the full path to the script in crontab
[07:45] <RQ> no "./"
[07:45] <hacked`> guys, in a README file, it says that i should enable the Crypto library support (CONFIG_CRYPTO) and the following algorythm: ARC4 cipher algorithm (CONFIG_CRYPTO_ARC4)   does that mean i have to verify this with menuconfig ? if so i can see that its set as <M> ARC4 cipher algorithm
[07:46] <HappyFool> adwait: the line is '* * * * * /bin/ls'
[07:46] <adwait> RQ: i tried with the full path........still notjimg
[07:46] <HappyFool> hacked`: i have a file /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/crypto/arc4.ko   -- it appears that ubuntu comes with that module compiled
[07:47] <adwait> HappyFool: well........the line i am using isnt too differnet......just one of the *s is replaced by 00
[07:47] <HappyFool> adwait: yeah, but that'll only happen every hour
[07:47] <HappyFool> adwait: are you tweaking your clock to force it to run?
[07:47] <sdschulze> The dependencies between libgmime-cil and libgmime2.1 seem broken in breezy.
[07:47] <adwait> HappyFool: no......i am just setting the time for after a minute for testing
[07:48] <adwait> 19 * * * * adwait /bin/ls
[07:48] <sinnlos> hat hier wer cedega ??
[07:48] <sinnlos> oh sorry
[07:48] <adwait> HappyFool: i tried the above line.......still nothing happened
[07:48] <HappyFool> what's the 'adwait' for?
[07:48] <adwait> the username......i am edting the gloabal crontab now
[07:48] <HappyFool> directly?
[07:49] <RQ> adwait, did you restart cron?
[07:49] <hacked`> happyfool, so basically everything in /lib/modules is already compiled ?
[07:50] <adwait> RQ: i have been facing this problem since yesterday........i hv shut down the pc since, so restarting cron isnt probably a solution
[07:50] <HappyFool> hacked`: well, all the .ko files have to have been compiled to be there. My point was that that particular module is included with ubuntu, so you don't need to build your own kernel / module to get it
[07:50] <mpmc> :)
[07:51] <eikke> hija
[07:51] <eikke> I got a little problem. I got an ess1688 ISA card, which is not detected at boot time. I can modprobe the module fine though
[07:51] <eikke> is there any modules.autoload file?
[07:52] <HappyFool> eikke: /etc/modules
[07:52] <eikke> ty
[07:52] <h08817> major problem here
[07:52] <h08817> anyone good with the insides of a computer?
[07:53] <desrt> uhm.  yes?
[07:53] <h08817> ok
[07:53] <h08817> i turned on my computer today and it just buzzed for no reason i found out that it was the power supply i htink it is blown
[07:54] <Tomcat_> Bad... :I
[07:54] <h08817> so anyway i swapped it with another power supply and a different case
[07:54] <Tomcat_> Just hope it didn't blow anything else.
[07:54] <h08817> i "think" I hooked everything up right
[07:54] <Tomcat_> When my last PSU went kaboom, it took the RAM with it.
[07:54] <joe_> what should i do if i get sudo: gedit: command not found
[07:54] <h08817> it tries to read the hd and it flashes and just sits there doesn't do a memory test or anything
[07:55] <HappyFool> joe_: oh, you're on kubuntu *oops*
[07:55] <desrt> joe_; use vi :)
[07:55] <joe_> yeah
[07:55] <HappyFool> joe_: i think 'kate' might be in the default install
[07:55] <HappyFool> joe_: 'sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[07:55] <desrt> h08817; maybe it wasn't the power supply that was bad
[07:55] <Gerriall> Hey guys I'm trying to get an Ubuntu partition active in my Grub.conf that was set up by CentOS 4.1. I have rootnoverify (hd0,1) and chainloader +1 , but I am missing something else to make it boot. Does anybody know what I'm missing?
[07:55] <h08817> then what could it be?
[07:55] <desrt> h08817; or maybe it was more than just the PSU
[07:55] <Tomcat_> h08817: Then something important is broken... mainboard, memory, ram, graphics card.
[07:55] <desrt> mainboard?  memory?  cpu?
[07:55] <desrt> could be almost anything :P
[07:55] <Riddell> joe_: kdesu kate
[07:55] <joe_> as in sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:55] <HappyFool> joe_: you can try vi, but it's a bit rough going for new users; if kate doesn't work, try 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[07:56] <h08817> graphics card is ok
[07:56] <Tomcat_> h08817: Take out the graphics card and disconnect all disks/drives... then try if it boots up with POST beep.
[07:56] <desrt> h08817; take out everything except cpu, ram, vidcard
[07:56] <Riddell> joe_: right click in Konqueror -> Edit as Root Action
[07:56] <desrt> h08817; see if it will boot
[07:56] <pippijn> hi all
[07:56] <desrt> h08817; if not, you know it's one of those... try replacing with known-good spares
[07:56] <desrt> h08817; else, start adding stuff back in until it breaks again
[07:56] <h08817> ok
[07:56] <pippijn> the meta package ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop are bloat
[07:56] <desrt> er?
[07:57] <pippijn> can I safely remove the meta packages and get rid of all that I think is bloat?
[07:57] <h08817> brb
[07:57] <desrt> pippijn; i'd recommend against it
[07:57] <h08817>  don't go anywhere please
[07:57] <pippijn> desrt: why is that?
[07:57] <desrt> pippijn; your system won't upgrade properly in the future
[07:57] <pippijn> hm
[07:57] <desrt> although, as long as you stay on hoary, you're probably ok
[07:57] <hmrocha> hello
[07:58] <hmrocha> where can i get the shockware player?
[07:58] <desrt> but if you ever try to use debfoster, life is gonna be considerably more miserable for you :)
[07:58] <pippijn> desrt: do you happen to know what kernel warty uses?
[07:58] <desrt> 2.6.[old]  :)
[07:58] <pippijn> I see
[07:58] <HappyFool> they're empty afaik -- how are they bloat? They'll also provide a reasonable upgrade path
[07:58] <pippijn> and hoary is using?
[07:58] <pippijn> 2.6.8?
[07:58] <desrt> 2.6.10
[07:58] <hondje> what? debfoster and orphan rock
[07:58] <pippijn> ah cool
[07:58] <HappyFool> 2.6.8.1, i think; hoary 2.6.10
[07:58] <desrt> hondje; ya.  debfoster rocks my world
[07:58] <pippijn> I like evms
[07:58] <pippijn> I have debian now
[07:58] <desrt> hondje; except that it doesn't find pacakges sometimes
[07:58] <pippijn> I had ubuntu for a while I have been jumping around really
[07:59] <desrt> hondje; like, sometimes deborphan will sniff out stuff that even debfoster -i doesn't find
[07:59] <LuNaTiK^GuY> hi ppl.....how can i install a new icon set in ubuntu gnome?
[07:59] <pippijn> evms doesn't work @ debian it seems
[07:59] <desrt> LuNaTiK^GuY; apt-cache search gnome-icon-theme-
[07:59] <hondje> I believe it, I use deborphan regularly after I get something built
[07:59] <desrt> oh.  wow.  there's actually not many of them :P
[07:59] <hmrocha> i have flash installed, but not shockwave
[07:59] <mpmc> I'm never going back to Fedora Core!!!!!!!
[07:59] <hondje> even whipped up a little script with some awk for it
[07:59] <desrt> LuNaTiK^GuY; basically, you can download an icon theme from art.gnome.org or gnome-look.org
[07:59] <hmrocha> i can't find a package with shockwave :(
[07:59] <h08817> desrt: problem still occurs
[08:00] <hondje> hmrocha: yell at macromedia to support it
[08:00] <desrt> h08817; sorry to hear
[08:00] <h08817> desrt: i took out everything except for video and sound
[08:00] <h08817> and no bios
[08:00] <h08817> or memory test
[08:00] <h08817> any ideas?
[08:00] <hmrocha> hondje, there is no package?
[08:00] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yes i downloaded from gnome-look.org
[08:00] <hondje> not last I checked
[08:00] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but i dont know how to install it....i have unpacked it
[08:00] <hondje> macromedia doesn't make shockwave for linux
[08:00] <hmrocha> hondje, i'll send them an email then...
[08:00] <desrt> LuNaTiK^GuY; go to system -> preferences -> theme
[08:00] <desrt> LuNaTiK^GuY; don't unpack it :)
[08:00] <hacked`> guys
[08:01] <hacked`> how do i apply a patch
[08:01] <desrt> LuNaTiK^GuY; then click [ + Install Theme ] 
[08:01] <h08817> it all started when i pulled my 2ndhd and left my main in and i disconnected the wires and swapped the wires for my 2nd hd to install ubuntu now today it died
[08:01] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wowwww
[08:01] <desrt> LuNaTiK^GuY; then give it the file
[08:01] <LuNaTiK^GuY> its easier than i thought! :)
[08:01] <LuNaTiK^GuY> thanks a lot desrt
[08:01] <desrt> LuNaTiK^GuY; you can even drag the link to the theme directly from firefox into the theme dialog box
[08:01] <h08817> later
[08:01] <desrt> LuNaTiK^GuY; saves you from having to download it
[08:02] <HappyFool> hacked`: you can try reading 'man patch'
[08:02] <mpmc> AHHH!
[08:02] <LuNaTiK^GuY> interesting stuff ;)
[08:02] <pippijn> I have a 4GB hard disc
[08:02] <HappyFool> hacked`: or maybe 'patch --help'
[08:02] <hmrocha> hondje, i have submitted feedback on the shockwave download page
[08:03] <pippijn> is that enough for the entire ubuntu for a long time?
[08:03] <duglas>  /leave
[08:03] <hmrocha> hondje, there is a link on the page for feedback, i filled the form
[08:03] <hondje> good deal
[08:03] <hmrocha> hondje, they'll surely ignore me, but at least i tried
[08:03] <hondje> I doubt they'll listen, people have been asking them for like 4 or 5 years, but the more complaints the better :)
[08:03] <mpmc>  /kill
[08:03] <mpmc> oops
[08:03] <mpmc> lol
[08:03] <LuNaTiK^GuY> this is awesome :D i loooove ubuntu
[08:04] <HappyFool> pippijn: i think the default install is ~ 1.8GB; i'm not sure if that includes swap (~ the size of your RAM)
[08:04] <pippijn> okay
[08:04] <pippijn> but for upgrades?
[08:04] <mpmc> complain anout what?
[08:04] <J_P> hi all
[08:04] <J_P> #python
[08:04] <mpmc> about*
[08:04] <pippijn> when the next x.06 is coming out
[08:04] <pippijn> or so
[08:04] <J_P> sorry
[08:04] <pippijn> x.07 or whatever
[08:04] <mpmc> of what lol
[08:04] <pippijn> will it be enough then?
[08:04] <mpmc> ubuntu?
[08:04] <HappyFool> pippijn: next release is due in october; it will be called 5.10
[08:04] <pippijn> ah
[08:04] <HappyFool> pippijn: i'm not sure
[08:06] <Will_> Stop asking me!
[08:07] <HappyFool> ah crap, that test cron job is mailing me every minute
[08:07] <chaps0063> I'm having touchpad problems, the scroll up/down keys do not function properly, I gathered information from xev but I am unsure where to go from here.
[08:08] <dacoto> anyone have a successful ubuntu install running on a g3 Blue & White?
[08:09] <EvilDin> am is there need to be anything enable on router if you want to have ipv6 on my linux
[08:09] <EvilDin> i heard something about protocol 41
[08:09] <EvilDin> anyone know anything about that
[08:10] <ateves> once again: does anyone know how to stop the auto resizing of icons in gnome panels when resizing the panel and can i use a start menu button with 256x128?
[08:10] <RQ> EvilDin, ah
[08:10] <RQ> hm
[08:11] <p_mash> question: does ubuntu come with mysql/php/apache ie all the stuff required for php dev ??
[08:11] <mpmc> #no
[08:11] <HappyFool> p_mash: afaik, you can install it all easily enough
[08:11] <mpmc> you'll need to install them.. and be careful at the ones you do install.
[08:11] <HappyFool> !lamp
[08:11] <ubotu> methinks lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary
[08:11] <mpmc> !kill
[08:12] <ubotu> Wish i knew, mpmc
[08:12] <HappyFool> that page may be of help; i don't know for sure
[08:12] <mpmc> !lol
[08:12] <ubotu> mpmc: I don't know
[08:12] <mpmc> !lol
[08:12] <chaps0063> !help
[08:12] <bufalo73> hello
[08:12] <mpmc> lol
[08:12] <mpmc> !help
[08:12] <chaps0063> !lobotomy
[08:12] <ubotu> chaps0063: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:13] <chaps0063> I hate waiting for technical support..
[08:13] <h08817> hey i'm back
[08:13] <RQ> EvilDin, i had the following:
[08:13] <RQ> /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p ipv6 -j ACCEPT
[08:13] <RQ> /sbin/iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth0 -p ipv6 -j ACCEPT
[08:13] <mpmc> !lamp
[08:13] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary
[08:14] <h08817> anyone good with the insides ofa computer
[08:14] <h08817> ?
[08:14] <chaps0063> h08817: like?
[08:14] <h08817> ok
[08:14] <RQ> EvilDin, -p ipv6 makes protocol 41, i guess :)
[08:14] <h08817> i just reconnected everything and my bios won't recognize my hd
[08:14] <Discipulus> h08817, depends, what's the problem
[08:14] <chaps0063> h08817: what else is on that IDE channel?
[08:14] <h08817> i checked the motherboard and the cables
[08:14] <h08817> nothing
[08:14] <Lancellor> i tried to install xfce4 following this tutorial http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30896&page=2&pp=10  but i, having trouble
[08:15] <Discipulus> h08817, you sure you connected everything properly?
[08:15] <mpmc> !help
[08:15] <h08817> i think so?
[08:15] <chaps0063> h08817: double check.
[08:15] <h08817> how can i be certain?
[08:15] <mpmc> php can be found at http://php.net
[08:15] <chaps0063> h08817: check power to hdd, reset the bios (as long as you have no custom settings)
[08:15] <Discipulus> h08817, has it previously worked with that hd?
[08:15] <mpmc> !php
[08:15] <ubotu> mpmc: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:16] <yawa|QR> Lancellor, ?
[08:16] <mpmc> lol
[08:16] <Lancellor> yes
[08:16] <mpmc> Whats everyone doing
[08:16] <chaps0063> I'm on hold with technical support.
[08:16] <poningru> chaps0063: what'd you need help with?
[08:16] <chaps0063> poningru: with symantec...stupid windows products.
[08:16] <yawa|QR> Lancellor, what problems can you face while apt-getting? :D
[08:17] <magnus__> hi... just got hoary installed on my tablet pc, toshiba m200, and it works fine - but how can I make the on-screen keyboard (xvkbd) show swedish layout, not english?
[08:17] <chaps0063> magnus__: you have the tablet working?
[08:17] <h08817> you guys are great
[08:17] <h08817> it works now
[08:17] <chaps0063> h08817: what was it?
[08:17] <apollo2011> What programs are there for Linux that will automatically connect to open Wi-Fi networks and more easily allow connections to encrypted wireless networks more like the way in WinXP?
[08:18] <h08817> i pulled the ide cable from the motherboard and reattached it
[08:18] <mpmc> !search php
[08:18] <ubotu> Wish i knew, mpmc
[08:18] <magnus__> chaps0063, yep, got the wacom up and running a few hours ago
[08:18] <h08817> maybe it wasn't snug
[08:18] <mpmc> :s
[08:18] <chaps0063> magnus__: hmm..i have a fujitsu t4010d, no working..
[08:18] <h08817> u guys have no clue what i went thru today for htat computer
[08:18] <mpmc> well tell us
[08:18] <h08817> first the power supply blew it just buzzed when it started
[08:18] <mpmc> Oh..
[08:18] <magnus__> chaps0063, just had to replace the wacom_drv.o and edit xorg.conf, and set the serial port
[08:19] <PurpleBlu> I am looking for Laptop disassebly help, dont know where to go?  can anyone help or point me in right direction?
[08:19] <mpmc> ever had one of those blow up in your face lol
[08:19] <h08817> then i had to switch cases so i had to like rebuild the computer which i never did before
[08:19] <chaps0063> hmm...how do i find out all this..
[08:19] <magnus__> chaps0063, know about how to set keymap in on-screen keyboard?
[08:19] <Lancellor> when i type this sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core xfce4 synaptic gnome-sudo gdm acpi acpid powermanagement-interface mozilla-firefox the following packages have unmet dependencies and gives me all xfce4 dependencies
[08:19] <h08817> i did have my powersupply blow up in my face
[08:19] <chaps0063> magnus__: no idea...sorry.
[08:19] <h08817> i stuck a screw driver in it and it popped power was off
[08:19] <mpmc> LOL
[08:19] <h08817> but anyway i learned how to build a computer from scratch today w00t
[08:20] <magnus__> chaps0063, how far have you come in getting your tablet to work?
[08:20] <mpmc> Did you know manuals do help :P
[08:20] <mebaran151> is breezy installable yet
[08:20] <mpmc> lol
[08:20] <sinferno> hey there is a program to make an .img file from a bin and i forgot waht it was
[08:20] <chaps0063> magnus__: haven't done anything yet..
[08:20] <mebaran151> I need to do some Mono.net work
[08:20] <sinferno> does anyone know
[08:20] <h08817> mpmc: no i didn't have a manual at the time
[08:20] <mebaran151> and Breezy is the only place to do it
[08:20] <sinferno> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[08:20] <mpmc> Oh.. lol
[08:20] <mebaran151> I also want to go about fixing bugs, but I really really really need X
[08:20] <Frafra> checking for OpenGL library... no
[08:20] <Frafra> configure: error: Couldn't find opengl libraries or headers
[08:20] <Frafra> why?
[08:20] <magnus__> chaps0063, i can recommend the howto at linux wacom site, it really helped me
[08:20] <chaps0063> magnus__: can you link me.
[08:20] <sinferno> anyone remember the program to make a img from a bin?
[08:20] <h08817> chaps0063: but my comp is up and running maybe i'll try to install ubuntu once again and hope it works
[08:21] <h08817> last night the install died
[08:21] <mpmc> Please don't say my name at the beginning.. It's annoying
[08:21] <h08817> ok deal
[08:21] <mpmc> I wish I new how to turn that sound off
[08:21] <h08817> it said files were already on the hd that it wanted to install so it died
[08:21] <h08817> i do it no u
[08:21] <chaps0063> magnus__: I am going to read this howto..
[08:22] <h08817> i type a couple letters of ur name and hit tab and then it beeps u
[08:22] <magnus__> chaps0063, http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/main
[08:22] <joe_> could you please remind me where i can download JRE from the Ubuntu wiki
[08:22] <desrt> joe_; did you search for "java"?
[08:22] <joe_> i believe there's a link, please point me in the right direction
[08:22] <HappyFool> sinferno: maybe 'bchunk' ?
[08:22] <h08817> how do u delete things from ubuntu like stuff u don't need i am a complete noob
[08:22] <HappyFool> !java
[08:22] <frank_> !java
[08:22] <ubotu> somebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[08:22] <chaps0063> as far as I've seen, I haven't see any notes that the tablet was working on a lifebook t4010
[08:22] <sinferno> HappyFool, YES thank you
[08:22] <h08817> also does the server install come with the word processing?
[08:22] <h08817> or do i have to install that later on
[08:23] <h08817> limited space on my hd
[08:23] <chaps0063> magnus__: how do I figure out which serial port its on.
[08:23] <joe_> Cheers for that
[08:23] <HappyFool> h08817: if you mean openoffice, i doubt it will be installed by default
[08:23] <magnus__> anyone knows how to change keymap (to swedish) in on-screen keyboard?
[08:23] <mpmc> It is installed ny default on Ubuntu
[08:23] <magnus__> chaps0063, i found out via the web...:)
[08:23] <HappyFool> h08817: in the server install, i mean
[08:23] <mpmc> not in the server install
[08:23] <magnus__> chaps0063, normally it seems to be /dev/ttyS0 on a tablet PC
[08:24] <mebaran151> when is X going to be fixed in Breezy?
[08:24] <magnus__> there is a utility in the wacom-package that helps to identify, or test at least
[08:24] <mpmc> what are tablet PC's anyway..?
[08:24] <mpmc> a Brick with a screen?
[08:24] <magnus__> tablet PC = PC where you type and draw on the screen.....
[08:24] <mpmc> lol
[08:25] <goldee> hi folks
[08:25] <chaps0063> magnus__: how do I get information from /dev/ttyS0
[08:25] <goldee> i need help :P
[08:25] <klaym> tablet PC: a laptop with extremely dirty display
[08:25] <mpmc> yes.. but what features do the have... 5mhz proesser lol
[08:25] <mpmc> lol
[08:25] <chaps0063> actually mine has a 1.6
[08:25] <chaps0063> :-)
[08:25] <mpmc> nice.. very expensive
[08:25] <magnus__> chaps0063, setserial -a /dev/yS0, shows current settings for instance
[08:25] <goldee> which program allows me to watch tv on ubuntu (i have tv tuner)
[08:26] <chaps0063> magnus__: need to install that..
[08:26] <mpmc> I want a TV Tuner..
[08:26] <mpmc> lol
[08:26] <goldee> :D
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Can You install a new OS on a tablet PC?
[08:26] <magnus__> yes, setserial is needed and handy..
[08:26] <mpmc> ;)
[08:26] <magnus__> DaSkreech, i just installed Ubuntu on mine....
[08:26] <goldee> does anybody knows?
[08:27] <DaSkreech> magnus__: Does it depend on the Type of tablet PC
[08:27] <chaps0063> DaSkreech: I have mine dual booting..
[08:27] <scena> Ok; is there an "idiots guide to routing" somewhere?
[08:27] <DaSkreech> I know you have ones that convert from laptop to tablet
[08:27] <snouptcss> !info muine
[08:27] <ubotu> muine: (Simple playlist based music player), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8.2-5ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 246 kB, Installed size: 1228 kB
[08:27] <magnus__> DaSkreech, not more than for pc:s generally, i believe
[08:27] <DaSkreech> magnus__: Ah Ok then :-)
[08:27] <zenlunatic> would ubuntu run well on 200mhz machine?
[08:28] <goldee> ok byebye
[08:28] <DaSkreech> zenlunatic: Try Ubuntu LIte
[08:28] <zenlunatic> DaSkreech: X wouold probably bet the biggest problem don't you think?
[08:29] <chaps0063> what is the equivalent to /etc/init.d/boot.local in ubuntu?
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu Lite? Less Filling? Tastes Great?
[08:29] <klaym> 0% fat
[08:29] <DaSkreech> zenlunatic: Gnome pulls a lot of resources as well
[08:29] <scena> lartc.org is too much information to me. is there anything simpler to read on basic linux routing
[08:30] <DaSkreech> X has run pretty well on old machines :)
[08:30] <ompaul> Dr_Willis, 33% less calories than a Ubuntu with skype lashed all over it
[08:30] <Whistler> i have installed flightgear via sudo apt-get install
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> skype. :P i dont use that.
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> lol
[08:31] <Whistler> but i dont know how to run it
[08:31] <zenlunatic> DaSkreech: I think I might just stick with a non-X system on it.
[08:31] <DaSkreech> zenlunatic: Thats fine
[08:32] <ompaul> Dr_Willis, it is an unfortunate thing that lots of people do, and it aint the best in terms of interoperability afik, it must die and I must use asterisk but that is for another day
[08:33] <zenlunatic> Whistler: try flightgear
[08:33] <Whistler> i have installed flightgear via sudo apt-get install so how can i run it?
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> ompaul,  lol :P i recall ages ago useing that dialpad.com site for free (with ads) phone calls.
[08:33] <Whistler> flightgear doesnt work
[08:33] <Whistler> =[
[08:33] <zenlunatic> Whistler: try finding the binary and using the absolute path
[08:33] <h08817> HappyFool: can i install openoffice on server if i have enough space?
[08:33] <zenlunatic> Whistler: should be in /usr somewhere
[08:33] <h08817> HappyFool: and would hte package already be on my hd or would it be on the cd?
[08:33] <HappyFool> h08817: probably -- you'll need at least X as well too
[08:33] <snouptcss> !ifno flighgear
[08:33] <ubotu> No idea, snouptcss
[08:34] <HappyFool> h08817: it will be on the cd, afaik
[08:34] <snouptcss> !info flightgear
[08:34] <ubotu> flightgear: (Flight Gear Flight Simulator), section universe/games, is extra. Version: 0.9.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1589 kB, Installed size: 4508 kB
[08:34] <ateves> gdesklets is definitely crap
[08:34] <h08817> ok bb when i plan on installing it since i have no clue how to install anything
[08:34] <snouptcss> ataves: it didn't used to be
[08:34] <h08817> my hands are tied now with linux
[08:34] <h08817> i am on windows atm
[08:34] <snouptcss> ataves: i think they're havign major issues with it right now
[08:34] <snouptcss> oops
[08:35] <snouptcss> ateves: *
[08:35] <ateves> snouptcss: i can't get something going
[08:35] <ateves> always errors in sensors
[08:35] <ateves> or whatever
[08:35] <tritium> Whistler, "dpkg -L flightgear" to list the files.  The executable is likely under /usr/games somewhere.
[08:35] <snouptcss> tritium: i didn' tknow you coudl do that!!
[08:36] <snouptcss> oh, the time to be saved...
[08:36] <tritium> snouptcss, you learn something every day :)
[08:36] <snouptcss> hehe
[08:36] <scena> "Routing for Dummies", anyone know of one?
[08:36] <snouptcss> no, i learn fortysoemthigns new every day
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> http://www.google.com/search?q=Routing+for+Dummies
[08:36] <scena> dr_willis: lol
[08:37] <scena> quick! to the internet!
[08:37] <scena> *does the Superfriends thing with the IE logo
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> actually im suprised amazon dosent have a book by that name.
[08:38] <Whistler> http://pastebin.com/317207 any ideas how to run it?
[08:38] <ivan_qk> anybody here knows how to use wine?
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> Whistler,  one of the binaries in /usr/games
[08:38] <mpmc> Hi, Can anyone tell me out I auto start a service on logon?
[08:38] <mpmc> how*
[08:38] <ivan_qk> i need to run starcraft online
[08:39] <mpmc> !help
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> Whistler, /usr/lib/menu/flightgear  -- means that it will have an icon also. :P
[08:39] <laughlin> i am a long time gentoo user what is ubuntu like in comparison
[08:39] <mpmc> where can I fine php
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> ivan_qk,  wine, or cedega can do that I belive.
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> laughlin,  much less hassle :P faster install..
[08:39] <zenlunatic> how do i find the dpi of my lcd?
[08:39] <Whistler> Dr_Willis i still cant find how to run it?
[08:39] <tritium> Whistler, read some of the documentation listed there under /usr/share/doc/flightgear
[08:39] <mpmc> damm bot
[08:40] <ivan_qk> yes, i can run starcraft on wine, but video is slowly and i cant play online
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> Whistler,  perhaos its time to read the docs and check the homepage - or see what  /usr/lib/menu/flightgear is set up to run.
[08:40] <tritium> Whistler, particularly the README.Debian and the README.running.gz
[08:40] <laughlin> Dr_Willis: how is the package managment system?
[08:40] <mpmc> How do I start a service on Boot!
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> laughlin,  its the 'apt-get' methid. :P works very very well.
[08:40] <qt2> ...is there a way to modify waht the gnome keyboard shortcuts do?
[08:40] <laughlin> ah
[08:40] <tritium> qt2, yes, there's a configuration applet
[08:40] <ompaul> laughlin, apt-get aptitude and synaptic kewl stuff
[08:41] <laughlin> is it as good as portage
[08:41] <tritium> mpmc, the initscripts are in /etc/init.d/
[08:41] <poningru> laughlin: yes
[08:41] <laughlin> i'll have to give it a try then
[08:41] <poningru> if you want something to compile you can use apt-build
[08:41] <zenlunatic> laughlin: what does portage have to do with anything?
[08:41] <tritium> laughlin, it's more mature than portage
[08:41] <laughlin> package managment
[08:41] <mpmc> qt2: goto System->Prefs->Keyboard
[08:41] <scena> this is becoming too difficult. i should just find a linux on floppy router.
[08:41] <zenlunatic> laughlin: stop tossing flaimebait
[08:41] <poningru> scena: what are you trying to do?
[08:41] <laughlin> ?
[08:41] <ompaul> laughlin, go do it, you will enjoy it
[08:42] <laughlin> i will
[08:42] <laughlin> what is flaimbait?
[08:42] <scena> poniguru: all i want to do is to create a basic router to go between a 10 series IP and a 12 series IP
[08:42] <scena> we've got a windows2000 box doing it now, and i want to remove it & put a linux one in
[08:42] <scena> but i can't find any clear information on how to do this
[08:42] <poningru> hmm I would say use something like bsd
[08:43] <poningru> I dont think ubuntu is good for that job
[08:43] <laughlin> coyote linux is great for routers check it out!
[08:43] <poningru> but then again I have never done anything like that
[08:43] <jasoncohen> laughlin, apt-get and aptitude are both very powerful package management tools and synaptic is by far the best gui tool for installing/removing packages. it supports every advanced feature you might want like holding a package at a particular version, forcing the install or downgrade of a particular version of a package, viewing dependencies, reverse dependencies, descriptions, changelogs, changing repositories - everything
[08:43] <poningru> yeah coyote is good for that as well
[08:43] <qt2> mpmc, i believe you mean System->Prefs->Keyboard Shortcuts...
[08:43] <mpmc> yes
[08:43] <scena> i figured since im trying to pick a uniform distro i'd stick with ubuntu
[08:43] <qt2> mpmc, and i know about those already, i was wondering if there is a way to edit what those shortcuts DO.
[08:43] <butz> alguien usa XFCE ?
[08:43] <scena> but perhaps you are right
[08:44] <poningru> yeah just read the docs
[08:44] <ompaul> scena, what do you want to do, create a router?
[08:44] <poningru> I think fbsd has pretty good ones
[08:44] <qt2> mpmc, for example, the volume up/down controls the master volume, i want it to control the PCM volume...
[08:44] <tritium> qt2, change them
[08:44] <scena> poni: i read the LARTC doc. ands its way too much at once
[08:44] <poningru> hehe yeah
[08:44] <laughlin> cool thanks
[08:44] <qt2> tritium, how?
[08:44] <scena> poni: i just need somethnig simple
[08:44] <h08817> how do u install things from a cd or a floppy (just for future reference noob here)
[08:44] <scena> poni: and i also figured it'd be good to learn as well
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> h08817,  depends on the 'things'
[08:45] <mumbles> i think that this channel should be on x-chats defult list if someone can do that?
[08:45] <h08817> ok well i am installing ubntu with a server install
[08:45] <mumbles> i know freenodes already there
[08:45] <poningru> mumbles: it is
[08:45] <h08817> and i am not sure after it is installed if it will have openoffice
[08:45] <h08817> so i wanna know how to install openoffice
[08:45] <laughlin> scena: the best linux distro for routing is coyote linux also check out this site http://www.routerdesign.com/index.php
[08:45] <poningru> scena: I dont know of such a howto or tutorial
[08:45] <jasoncohen> h08817, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[08:45] <scena> i dont need DNS, or DHCP. just routing.,
[08:46] <jasoncohen> h08817, it's already installed - or should be
[08:46] <h08817> ok what is sudo i see it everywhere but don't get it
[08:46] <jasoncohen> h08817, it's part of ubuntu-desktop.
[08:46] <h08817> jasoncohen: i am installing server though
[08:46] <Snargledorf> how do i access my floppy drive from an ubuntu live cd?
[08:46] <D1> does anyone know what font this is?
[08:46] <D1> http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=26678&file1=26678-1.png&file2=26678-2.jpg&file3=26678-3.jpg&name=ish
[08:46] <jasoncohen> h08817, sudo allows you to gain administrative access by entering your user password. it's an alternative to having a root account
[08:46] <jasoncohen> h08817, why do you want openoffice on a server?
[08:46] <h08817> jasoncohen: no regular install i have limited disk space
[08:46] <h08817> so sudo means superuserdo
[08:46] <h08817> why do i have to use that
[08:47] <h08817> i don't have to tell it a location?
[08:47] <ompaul> scena this may be of help, in truth learning iptables helps a lot with routing  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers.php?action=viewarticle&artid=23
[08:47] <jasoncohen> h08817, if you want openoffice then you'll need a window manager and X
[08:47] <jasoncohen> h08817, no, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org will do the install for you
[08:47] <jasoncohen> you don't have to tell it anything elese
[08:47] <Sputn1k> how to change local language?
[08:47] <jasoncohen> *else
[08:47] <h08817> well my hd isn't  big enough for a normal install i just want to play around with linux
[08:47] <jasoncohen> Sputn1k, choose the language you want in gdm
[08:47] <jasoncohen> h08817, how big is your HD?
[08:47] <scena> goddamit i cant copy the link
[08:48] <scena> i HATE having to telnet irc
[08:48] <h08817> 463mb
[08:48] <mumbles> bash: ./jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin: /bin/sh: b ad interpreter: Text file busy
[08:48] <mumbles> ?
[08:48] <jasoncohen> h08817, have you tried the live cd?
[08:48] <h08817> it just clears the install
[08:48] <jasoncohen> actually, you probably wouldn't have enough ram
[08:48] <h08817> i downloaded the image and burned it to cd it boots to it
[08:48] <TerminX> h08817: in a world where a 320 gig drive costs less than $150, I don't think "my hd isn't big enough" is a valid excuse anymore, heh
[08:48] <ivan_qk> anybody know what is the command for file-manager?
[08:48] <Sputn1k> hmm i get: error gdm is allready started
[08:48] <jasoncohen> TerminX, i purchased 2 160 GB seagates for $50 each
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> ivan_qk,  what file manager? thers dozens of them
[08:49] <h08817> wow terminX
[08:49] <TerminX> see, there you go
[08:49] <h08817> well i kinda don't wanna have to wait 3 weeks to get it in the mail
[08:49] <TerminX> drives are cheap
[08:49] <jasoncohen> i have a 450 GB LVM and 100 GB of system storage
[08:49] <TerminX> and it doesn't take 3 weeks to get something in the mail
[08:49] <TerminX> more like 3 DAYS
[08:49] <h08817> from?
[08:49] <h08817> newegg?
[08:49] <jasoncohen> outpost
[08:49] <TerminX> outpost sucks
[08:49] <jasoncohen> outpost has great deals
[08:49] <TerminX> never buy there
[08:49] <ubuntu> hello to all
[08:49] <h08817> pricewatch?
[08:49] <jasoncohen> they always have good rebates and i've always gotten great service
[08:49] <pavka> Hi all
[08:49] <qt2> tritium, how?
[08:49] <h08817> where?
[08:49] <jasoncohen> they mail same day
[08:49] <ompaul> all us locations are no use to some people
[08:49] <hacked`> guys, im reading an INSTALL and it says to create file in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ called ifcfg-eth2, but there is no such directory in ubuntu
[08:50] <ivan_qk> Dr_Willis is not for me, it is for a friend,
[08:50] <ubuntu> one question
[08:50] <jasoncohen> h08817, where do you live?
[08:50] <Sputn1k> how can i startd gdm???
[08:50] <h08817> US
[08:50] <TerminX> jasoncohen: I ordered something they listed as in stock, they kept me on backorder for 2 months then canceled it without asking me
[08:50] <ompaul> hacked`, what are you trying to install?
[08:50] <h08817> TerminX: so who do u buy from?
[08:50] <hacked`> my wifi driver
[08:50] <TerminX> newegg or monarchcomputer typically
[08:50] <hacked`> ompaul my wifi driver
[08:50] <jasoncohen> h08817, look at the seagate drives on outpost. there are many great deals with $40 and $50 mail in rebates that'll allow you to get a 160 GB HD for $50 or a 200 GB for $70!
[08:50] <h08817> ok
[08:50] <ompaul> hacked`,  is there a driver for Debian?
[08:50] <jasoncohen> TerminX, i've ordered a lot from then- never had a problem
[08:50] <h08817> TerminX: what is a good type of drive maxtor?
[08:51] <poningru> hacked`: if its a win driver then it wont install on here
[08:51] <poningru> err on ubuntu
[08:51] <TerminX> they have a less than 5 out of 10 rating for the past 6 months on resellerratings, jasoncohen
[08:51] <TerminX> they're shit
[08:51] <hacked`> its the ipw2100 driver
[08:51] <TerminX> you got lucky
[08:51] <DanielHolth> Hi anyone here using ppp over bluetooth on Ubuntu?
[08:51] <h08817> then use?
[08:51] <tritium> qt2, I'm looking for the setting where you can choose whether the volume controls affect the master vs. PCM
[08:51] <TerminX> h08817: I prefer WD, but they're all about the same in terms of reliability and speed these days
[08:51] <jasoncohen> h08817, lol- i would go with seagate. they have the highest rating for drive reliability that i've seen. maxtor has had some issues
[08:51] <hacked`> ompaul, i just compiled it and stuff and its loaded, i just have to put stuff like DEVICE=eth2  ONBOOT=yes  BOOTPROTO=dhcp  TYPE=Wireless in a file
[08:51] <pavka> can anyone help me? I need use as default compiler gcc-3.4 but not gcc-3.3 How I can change it? in alternatives i cant find it.
[08:51] <jasoncohen> h08817, but it's personal choice. WD caviar are good as well
[08:51] <h08817> ok thanks later
[08:51] <TerminX> seagates are okay.. longer warranty but not as fast, heh
[08:52] <TerminX> that guy was kind of an ass
[08:52] <tritium> qt2, do you run the volume applet?
[08:52] <jasoncohen> TerminX, what guy?
[08:52] <jasoncohen> h08817?
[08:52] <TerminX> yes
[08:52] <jasoncohen> btw, a 160 GB drive won't even work on his hardware
[08:52] <jasoncohen> he'll need a new IDE controller
[08:52] <tritium> TerminX, please be mindful of the code of conduct, and try not to say anything too insulting
[08:52] <TerminX> he has PCI slots doesn't he?
[08:53] <ab> t
[08:53] <jasoncohen> yeah, so he'll need a new IDE controller
[08:53] <jasoncohen> probably should just get a new PC if it's that old- has to be 10 years +
[08:53] <quique> #ubuntu-es
[08:53] <tritium> qt2, you can select with the volume control applet which device and track to control
[08:53] <TerminX> tritium: saying someone is an ass is probably as far as I'd go in this channel, don't worry about it ;p
[08:53] <ubuntu> can anyone tellme how can i install from a live cd the Ubuntu on hard drive
[08:53] <tritium> TerminX, thanks
[08:54] <frank_> ubuntu you need the install cd
[08:54] <ubuntu> but the cd dont have a install option only boot
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu,  cant be done at this time.
[08:54] <ompaul> hacked`, still trying to find some docs online - I know I am close to the one you need
[08:54] <ubuntu> to linux
[08:54] <HappyFool> pavka: try specifying the compile command as gcc-3.4; i think 'make CC=gcc-3.4' might work, for instance
[08:54] <djp> hi all. is the only answer to the unexpected end of stream error between songs when playing streaming radio through rhythmbox, the installation of xmms?
[08:54] <pavka> HappyFool: I cannot specify it for future?
[08:55] <jasoncohen> do you actually need gcc-3.3? can't he just remove gcc-3.3. that'll ensure 3.4 is used
[08:55] <zAo^> otherwise try `CC=gcc-3.4 ; make
[08:55] <HappyFool> pavka: i don't know how; I'm just suggesting a solution
[08:55] <qt2> tritium, i have, the volume control applet uses the pcm of my alsa mixer.
[08:55] <pavka> HappyFool: for my problem is it good solution, but i think is it job for alternatives
[08:55] <soultaker> other question if a copy the live cd on a hard drive that installation will work ?.
[08:56] <qt2> tritium, however, the volume controls via the keyboard shorcuts still use master, which doesn't work at all with my sound card.
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> soultaker,  not likely.
[08:56] <poningru> soultaker: dude no
[08:56] <HappyFool> pavka: try jasoncohen's idea (remove gcc-3.3)
[08:56] <soultaker> thank you
[08:56] <pavka> HappyFool: :) tnx
[08:56] <tritium> qt2, really?  I don't get that behavior here.
[08:56] <poningru> soultaker: what you are saying is planned for the next release
[08:56] <soultaker> other question how can I install linux and Windows 98 on the same hard drive
[08:57] <poningru> soultaker: dual boot
[08:57] <soultaker> i just download this release and love it
[08:57] <poningru> do you already have win98 installed?
[08:57] <jasoncohen> removing gcc-3-3 will take out   build-essential g++ g++-3.3 gcc gcc-3.3 libstdc++5-3.3-dev
[08:57] <ateves> how can i copy a complete folder in the console?
[08:57] <soultaker> yes all reedy have window 98
[08:57] <mastaYoda> hi all
[08:57] <mastaYoda> I'm new to ubuntu and I have a small problem with breezy
[08:57] <ompaul> hacked`, have a look at this all the way to the bottom of the page http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27705.html
[08:57] <djp> hi all. is the only answer to the unexpected end of stream error between songs when playing streaming radio through rhythmbox, the installation of xmms?
[08:58] <qt2> tritium, , do you use the master slider by default?
[08:58] <mastaYoda> There seems to be no mkfontdir which results in a broken xorg-x11
[08:58] <tritium> ateves, cp -R (or -r, or --recursive) .  "man cp" for more details.
[08:58] <poningru> soultaker: hold on let me get the link
[08:58] <jasoncohen> nevermind, you just need a gcc version installed
[08:58] <tritium> qt2, yes
[08:58] <soultaker> thank you ponigru
[08:58] <jasoncohen> pavka, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[08:58] <q[merlyn] > Just tried PPC Live on my Al powerbook (2005 model), and got no keyboard or trackpad response.  Expected?
[08:58] <jasoncohen> pavka, sudo apt-get remove gcc-3.4
[08:58] <soultaker> thank you poningru
[08:59] <jasoncohen> pavka, and make sure you have build-essential
[08:59] <poningru> http://www.sysresccd.org/
[08:59] <poningru> soultaker: thats the link
[08:59] <tritium> qt2, you're right.  Even changing it to PCM doesn't work.
[08:59] <qt2> tritium, thats why you dont have the problem, the shortcut defaults to master, try setting your volume control to pcm, the volume control will use pcm, but the shortcuts will still use master.
[08:59] <poningru> use that to partition your hd
[08:59] <q[merlyn] > Makes it a bit hard to try anything. :)
[08:59] <tritium> qt2, yeah, just did
[08:59] <qt2> tritium, which is REALLY annoying.
[08:59] <soultaker> thank you poningru let me takea look
[08:59] <tritium> qt2, I wonder if there's a gconf setting anywhere...
[09:00] <qt2> tritium, looking right now.
[09:00] <mastaYoda> There is nobody who can help me?
[09:00] <Eric___> Hi all, looking for WIFI drivers and install tutorials...any help here?
[09:00] <djp> anyone know if there has been a fix for the unexpected end of stream problem when playing back ogg streams under rhythmbox?
[09:00] <q[merlyn] > No idea on the PPC Live?
[09:00] <pepsi> heh... and im looking for NDISWrapper info :)
[09:01] <wrtpeeps> hi, i was wondering if anyone was able to tell me why i get this error trying to make procps: http://pastebin.com/317224
[09:01] <jasoncohen> Eric___, have you searched the ubuntu wiki and google for your wireless card?
[09:01] <q[merlyn] > Anyplace else I should look or ask?
[09:01] <tritium> qt2, sorry about that
[09:01] <qt2> tritium, about what?
[09:01] <soultaker> well time to read
[09:01] <Sputn1k> how to kill gdm process?
[09:02] <tritium> qt2, telling you wrong
[09:02] <soultaker> thank for the help to all
[09:02] <qt2> Sputn1k, killall -9 gdm
[09:02] <mastaYoda> Sputn1k: killall gdm?
[09:02] <HappyFool> Sputn1k: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[09:02] <qt2> tritium, no problem, you didnt know.
[09:02] <D1> how do I install fonts with gnome?
[09:02] <qt2> tritium, and i see no refrence to master anywhere in any of the 'binding' settings
[09:03] <Eric___> jason , no but I will now
[09:03] <Sputn1k> how to change local language?
[09:03] <tritium> qt2, yeah, I poked around in gconf and in the keyboard shortcuts capplet too.  :(
[09:03] <wrtpeeps> anyone recognise that error?
[09:04] <Derreck> wrtpeeps, You need to install the ncurses devel package.
[09:05] <Sputn1k> how to change local language???
[09:05] <Derreck> wrtpeeps, libncurses5-dev
[09:05] <tritium> wrtpeeps, if you "apt-cache search ncurses | grep dev" you'll see it
[09:05] <wrtpeeps> ok, thanks
[09:05] <wrtpeeps> is that all?
[09:05] <djp> anyone know if there has been a fix for the unexpected end of stream problem when playing back ogg streams under rhythmbox?
[09:05] <qt2> tritium, take it you didnt find anything either?
[09:05] <tritium> qt2, nope, sorry
[09:06] <qt2> blah.
[09:06] <Sputn1k> were i can change local language???
[09:06] <tritium> Sputn1k, please quit repeating
[09:06] <Sputn1k> quit? Maybie stop?
[09:06] <Derreck> wrtpeeps, should be.
[09:07] <wrtpeeps> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:07] <wrtpeeps>   conky: Depends: x-window-system but it is not going to be installed
[09:07] <tritium> Sputn1k, same thing
[09:07] <Sputn1k> so somebody give my an answer
[09:07] <wrtpeeps> when i try to apt-get x-window-system, i get another big list
[09:07] <wrtpeeps> if i try to get those, i get they need x-window-system
[09:07] <wrtpeeps> like a big circle that just keeps going round
[09:07] <tritium> Sputn1k, there are more considerate ways to ask for help than demanding
[09:08] <Sputn1k> give me example
[09:08] <q[merlyn] > ahh. I'm not the only person with the problem - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21742
[09:08] <drew3> Sputn1k,  Got to the control center And choose Regional
[09:08] <q[merlyn] > Should have read that before I wasted a DVD. :(
[09:08] <Sputn1k> where i can found "control center"
[09:08] <mumbles>  Gmail is temporarily unavailable. Cross your fingers and try again in a few minutes. We are sorry for the inconvenience.
[09:08] <mumbles> :(
[09:08] <Derreck> wrtpeeps, Sorry I don't know about that stuff.
[09:09] <HappyFool> wrtpeeps: conky is not an ubuntu-provided package, so you may be on your own trying to satisfy dependencies
[09:09] <wrtpeeps> thanks anyway :)
[09:09] <wrtpeeps> yea, ok thanks
[09:09] <jbm_> Hey, I just got an amd64 and installed hoary on it. But apparently cool'n'quiet doesn't seem to be supported. powernowd just says frequency scaling isn't supported. I've checked that c'n'q is enabled in the BIOS. Shouldn't it work?
[09:09] <drew3> Sputn1k, look for the control center in main Application Menus
[09:09] <ptlo> mumbles: works for me. you must've hit it in the wrong microsecond :)
[09:09] <mumbles> its saying that for about 5 minits now
[09:10] <ptlo> strange, i'm using it at this moment and it works normally for me
[09:10] <mumbles> must be the fact that i tried to download the messages uising evalution with the wrong settings
[09:10] <seren> hay
[09:11] <seren> can i connect to a another pc running linux (ubuntu) from this pc also running ubuntu
[09:11] <seren> ?
[09:11] <mumbles> any ideas what this is oging on about  bash: ./jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Text file busy
[09:11] <laughlin> yes use ssh
[09:11] <seren> ssh?
[09:11] <HappyFool> seren: how do you want to connect? what do you want to do?
[09:11] <seren> i want to use the ternimal
[09:11] <laughlin> "secure shell"
[09:11] <tritium> mumbles, you should build a .deb from the .bin, rather that installing it directly
[09:11] <laughlin> same thing
[09:12] <laughlin> type "ssh -l <username> <IP or Hostname>"
[09:12] <seren> k
[09:12] <laughlin> of remote computer
[09:12] <HappyFool> seren: if you want a remote terminal, laughlin's solution is probably what you want. you'll need to install the openssh-server package on the server machine
[09:12] <seren> i c
[09:13] <seren> thanksd
[09:14] <seren> thanks alot
[09:14] <seren> pz
[09:14] <laughlin> adios
[09:14] <MrGardenHoseMan> what's the comand to make a new directory?
[09:14] <q[merlyn] > mkdir
[09:14] <MrGardenHoseMan> and does ubuntu already come with java instaled?
[09:14] <MrGardenHoseMan> thx
[09:15] <hacked`> guys
[09:15] <hacked`> I've got my WLAN drivers installed and working. How do I automate the loading and configuring at boot?
[09:15] <gsuveg> re
[09:15] <gsuveg> anybody use php+sqlite on hoary ?
[09:16] <Fanskapet> hacked`, via ndiswrapper?
[09:16] <atlas95> how to installe web service on beagle?
[09:16] <gsuveg> Fatal error: Call to undefined function: sqlite_exec() in ... its not sound good
[09:16] <tritium> MrGardenHoseMan, no, thanks to Sun's licensing scheme.
[09:16] <tritium> !java
[09:16] <ubotu> java is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[09:16] <tritium> mumbles, ^^^
[09:16] <gsuveg> anybody have idea ?
[09:16] <Kyral> !flash
[09:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:16] <Touru> Does anyone know how a key might randomly stop working? my m is suddenly not doing anything. (I'm pasting it in here)
[09:16] <hacked`> fanskapet, dont confuse me
[09:18] <MrGardenHoseMan> well that's just dandy
[09:18] <Fanskapet> hacked`, ehm well i don't
[09:18] <AlexBO> hello!I wanna use VMware to install windows 2k on my ubuntu (i hate it, but i need it for an old printer that is not supported).I put into the win 2k cd: when it makes the boot, it doesn't find any bootable cd and it trays to boot with the net.so i tried to put into a live cd of linux, and it works! how can it be? how can i make to install win 2k with vmware on linux?
[09:18] <Fanskapet> hacked` how did you install your wlan-drivers?
[09:18] <tritium> MrGardenHoseMan, did you see the wiki page howto I had ubotu show you?
[09:18] <hacked`> fnaskaet, with source files
[09:19] <hacked`> guys
[09:19] <Fanskapet> hacked` yes but with what? :)
[09:19] <hacked`> how can i run a shell script on boot up
[09:19] <Fanskapet> ndiswrapper?
[09:19] <Fanskapet> ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net ?
[09:19] <ioboss> somebody used cedega?
[09:19] <MrGardenHoseMan> looking at it right now
[09:19] <hacked`> fanskapet, i got them from ipw2100.sf.net
[09:19] <ioboss> query me
[09:19] <mpmc> !php
[09:19] <ubotu> mpmc: Are you smoking crack?
[09:19] <Big_O> ugh
[09:19] <Fanskapet> ahh got my ubuntu cd's from the shipit site today :P
[09:19] <mpmc> :s
[09:19] <hacked`> fanskapet, anyways how can i run a .sh script on boot up ?
[09:19] <hacked`> fanskapet, how many cds
[09:20] <tritium> Sputn1k, did you get it resolvd?
[09:20] <mpmc> !help
[09:20] <tritium> drew3, I assume the control center you were referring to is a KDE thing?
[09:21] <AlexBO> HALO?
[09:21] <Fanskapet> hacked`, sorry not used that driver.. i just ndiswrapper to load my drivers.. and just put it as a module
[09:21] <Fanskapet> hacked`, 30
[09:21] <Fanskapet> three of them is "mine" though
[09:21] <hacked`> fanskapet, 27 in the garbage ?
[09:21] <Fanskapet> the rest is for my buddies
[09:21] <hacked`> k
[09:21] <hacked`> fanskapet, anyways how can i run a .sh script on boot up ?
[09:21] <Sputn1k> tritium nop
[09:21] <MrGardenHoseMan> what's Ubuntu PPC?
[09:22] <HappyFool> hacked`: you can maybe add a call to the script in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[09:22] <Bubbling_Zombie> MrGardenHoseMan, ubuntu for macintosheseseses
[09:22] <MrGardenHoseMan> lol
[09:22] <tritium> MrGardenHoseMan, PowerPC
[09:22] <Touru> Where does X's keyboard configuration live? Not the stuff in system--> preferences, something more detailed.
[09:22] <thechitowncubs> I'm trying to get my xbox tunneling application started through a menu launcher but i can't get it to work, i can only get it to work if i launch it in the console, can you tell me what is wrong with this script... sudo killall -9 kaid
[09:22] <thechitowncubs> sleep 2
[09:22] <thechitowncubs> gnome-terminal -e "sudo kaid"
[09:22] <thechitowncubs> sleep 3
[09:22] <MrGardenHoseMan> they have those now...
[09:22] <thechitowncubs> javaws /opt/jkaiui/jKaiUI.jnlp
[09:23] <AndyR_> is there any way to do a slide show of jpegs in hoary like in xp?
[09:23] <HappyFool> Touru: at a guess, /etc/X11/xkb/
[09:23] <Big_O> /dev/sda2       /media/backup	vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000   0       0 << am i mounting this right to get read/write access on a fat32 partition?
[09:23] <djp> ok, for anyone with the same problem as myself, which will basically be anyone using rhythmbox to playback streaming ogg feeds, the problem is rhythmbox uses spider which it shouldn't. i gather this will be or has been fixed in the next/latest cvs release
[09:24] <Fanskapet> hacked` from what i can see you only need to put "ipw2100" in your /etc/modules
[09:24] <Fanskapet> but im not sure.
[09:24] <Touru> Ah, thanks, HappyFool.
[09:24] <mpmc> $this->$this->$this = $this;
[09:24] <tritium> mpmc, ?
[09:24] <mpmc> Gah!
[09:24] <mpmc> Please dont do that
[09:26] <La_PaRCa> Hello. In warty I could use Applications:/// in nautilus to edit the applications menu. How can I do the same in Hoary?
[09:27] <HappyFool> you can use the delightfully named 'smeg' to edit menus; i believe it's installable from the backports repository
[09:27] <ttyS0> hello :) i've just reinstalled ubuntu yesterday .i've installed gstreamer (+libid3tag +libmad) already but rhythmbox doesn't show any IDv* information. I remember that I was installing some 'debs' before & all was working properly but now I can't remember their 'names'....
[09:27] <Touru> Is there a way a key could get detatched from what it's supposed to do? I'm pretty sure my m isn't shorting out or anything, because if I press it during bootup, I get an m on the screen. But once Ubuntu is loaded, no more m unless I copy it.
[09:28] <Touru> (It's not in the X keyboard stuff, it seems)
[09:28] <Amaranth> HappyFool: Can you think of a better name? :)
[09:28] <La_PaRCa> HappyFool, nope, smeg is not in backports. Any other ideas?
[09:28] <Amaranth> smeg is in backports
[09:28] <Amaranth> i packaged it for backports myself
[09:28] <tritium> 3 cheers for Amaranth
[09:28] <hacked`> guys how can i run a .sh script on boot up ?
[09:29] <tritium> hacked`, look into using update-rc.d
[09:29] <La_PaRCa> Oh, thats right... I dont have backports enabled, just ubuntu-extras
[09:29] <Amaranth> tritium: You know I wrote the thing too, right? :)
[09:29] <HappyFool> Amaranth: amaranth's gnome menu editor = agme :P
[09:29] <tritium> Amaranth, of course I knew that :)
[09:29] <Amaranth> HappyFool: lame
[09:29] <Amaranth> If I'm going to change it has to be a somewhat random name like evince or metacity
[09:29] <tritium> That's why I cheered for you ;)
[09:30] <Amaranth> I thought you were cheering for the packaging. :)
[09:30] <ridejib> hello everyone
[09:30] <tritium> Well, all your work...
[09:30] <zAo^> lo
[09:30] <HappyFool> ttyS0: you've installed the packages mentioned on the RestrictedFormats page on the wiki?
[09:30] <HappyFool> !restricted
[09:30] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:30] <AndyR_> we should all cheer for Amaranth
[09:31] <ttyS0> HappyFool, of course
[09:31] <AndyR_> after 3
[09:31] <AndyR_> 1
[09:31] <AndyR_> 2
[09:31] <AndyR_> 3
[09:31] <ridejib> cheer for Amaranth , why?
[09:31] <Amaranth> forgot to do that :)
[09:31] <tritium> for giving us smeg
[09:31] <AndyR_> cheer
[09:31] <HappyFool> ttyS0: hmm. mine Just Works.
[09:31] <La_PaRCa> whats the sources.list line for hoary-backports?
[09:31] <Amaranth> tritium: that sounds so wrong
[09:31] <ridejib> ohhh. yes. smeg is a nice little util
[09:31] <tritium> heh
[09:32] <ridejib> huzzah, Amaranth!
[09:32] <La_PaRCa> smeg sounds kinda liek phlegm
[09:32] <ridejib> not really
[09:32] <Amaranth> It's nastier, actually.
[09:32] <La_PaRCa> anyway, whats the sources.list line for backports?
[09:33] <HappyFool> !backports
[09:33] <ubotu> backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org. Backports are not advised for regular use, mainly because you might not be able to upgrade Ubuntu.
[09:33] <HappyFool> that's not the line -- read that page for more
[09:33] <Amaranth> grr, who put that crap in there?
[09:33] <HappyFool> which crap would that be?
[09:33] <djp> while, i've got the chance... thanks Amaranth! :)
[09:34] <Amaranth> ubotu: no, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org
[09:34] <ubotu> Amaranth: okay
[09:35] <Sionide> http://moon.google.com  <-- zoom right in on that
[09:35] <mpmc> ubotu: what is mpd
[09:35] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, mpmc
[09:35] <ridejib> Sionide: like cheese?
[09:35] <Sionide> mmm cheese :D
[09:35] <ridejib> lol
[09:36] <Amaranth> !info mpd
[09:36] <ubotu> mpd: (Music Player Daemon, the name says it all), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.11.5-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 93 kB, Installed size: 316 kB
[09:36] <Sionide> O_o
[09:36] <Sionide> wow
[09:36] <Sionide> useful bot
[09:36] <Sionide> !info Amarok
[09:36] <Amaranth> mpmc: why do you want a cli music player?
[09:36] <ubotu> amarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.2.3-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 4844 kB, Installed size: 11292 kB
[09:36] <HappyFool> cheeky, though
[09:36] <lqb> mipsel-linux-gcc is included in binutils packet, is it?
[09:36] <Sionide> woah
[09:36] <Sionide> nice...
[09:36] <Amaranth> Sionide: It takes packages names, not program names.
[09:37] <Amaranth> !info libgnome-menu breezy
[09:37] <mpmc> well.. I'm using a GUI for it
[09:37] <Amaranth> oops
[09:37] <Sionide> !info gnomebaker
[09:37] <ubotu> gnomebaker: (application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.3-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 384 kB, Installed size: 1244 kB
[09:37] <Sionide> nice nice nice. very useful indeed
[09:37] <Amaranth> ok, take it to a pm please
[09:37] <Amaranth> mpmc: ?
[09:37] <Sionide> i'm finished
[09:37] <dave> is ubuntu any good?
[09:37] <mpmc> What lol
[09:37] <Amaranth> mpmc: why not just use rhythmbox or something?
[09:38] <Amaranth> dave: Great place to ask that question. :)
[09:38] <mpmc> strange thing.. Is.. It sound better
[09:38] <dave> i figured this place is better than #gentoo or #debian
[09:38] <klaym> dave: the best place: #linux
[09:38] <Amaranth> mpmc: that isn't really possible
[09:38] <ridejib> dave: i like it
[09:38] <La_PaRCa> um
[09:38] <dave> yes, but i dont want to start an omgdistro war, and would probably be banned from there or something.
[09:38] <La_PaRCa> apt-cache search phlegm doesnt find anything
[09:39] <HappyFool> smeg
[09:39] <Amaranth> mpmc: and you're making a lot of work for yourself for something that may or may not be all in your head :)
[09:39] <HappyFool> yeesh
[09:39] <dave> how about this question. do you have repositories seperate from debian?
[09:39] <Amaranth> HappyFool: found out what it is?
[09:39] <La_PaRCa> jaja
[09:39] <La_PaRCa> I know
[09:39] <HappyFool> Amaranth: i knew, thanks
[09:39] <Amaranth> dave: Yeah, we have all our own.
[09:39] <HappyFool> Amaranth: hence my constant sniping :P
[09:39] <Amaranth> HappyFool: It's a swear word.
[09:39] <dave> Amaranth: eh??
[09:39] <mpmc> lol.. I have Amarok.. But it doesn't support Gnome very well
[09:39] <Amaranth> dave: You can't use debian repositories in ubuntu.
[09:39] <dave> Amaranth: what do you mean by all?
[09:39] <arguhoh> anyone know how to fix this problem?   An installation step has failed... The failing step is: Load installer components from CD.
[09:40] <dave> you can't? interesting
[09:40] <Amaranth> mpmc: rhythmbox, muine, beep-media-player, etc
[09:40] <dave> does ubuntu have a lot of packages? is it all binaries?
[09:40] <mpmc> got those too...
[09:40] <Sionide> arguhoh, probably you'll need to re-burn it - try at a lower burn speed
[09:40] <Amaranth> arguhoh: I think your CD or CD-ROM drive is bad.
[09:40] <dave> do i get to use xorg? is it lightweight? can i choose not to install X?
[09:40] <klaym> dave: Ubuntu is the only distro you need. don't use other distros.
[09:40] <arguhoh> sionide: tried 4 times
[09:40] <La_PaRCa> Amaranth, does smeg have a menu entry?
[09:40] <mpmc> Theres, only one media player for me.. and it's windows only :@
[09:40] <Amaranth> dave: give me a second, i'll make the bot tell us
[09:40] <Sionide> arguhoh, in that case, re-download the iso file? check your md5 checksums to make sure you got the full file?
[09:40] <Amaranth> mpmc: iTunes is not that good
[09:40] <djp> La_PaRCa: yes it does
[09:41] <dave> klaym: that really doesnt answer any of my questions at all. but thanks
[09:41] <HappyFool> dave: packages.ubuntu.com will let you search the package list. There is a server install. Xorg is the default in the latest release
[09:41] <dave> lol
[09:41] <mpmc> Not Itunes.. thats Sh*t
[09:41] <Sionide> arguhoh, if that doens't work you probably got a knackered cd-rom drive, i'd say...
[09:41] <dave> ok. and is the community any good? :)
[09:41] <arguhoh> sionide: downloaded from the mirror site and torrent...md5 good, cdroms good
[09:41] <mpmc> Winamp :)
[09:41] <La_PaRCa> ooohhhh... purty.... much better than vim blah.desktop
[09:41] <Amaranth> mpmc: beep and xmms can use winamp 2 skins
[09:41] <mpmc> I know..
[09:41] <mpmc> I still dont like them :P
[09:41] <arguhoh> Sionide: I'll try it once more though
[09:41] <Amaranth> !dstats hoary
[09:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on hoary... 16270 packages, 1437 maintainers, 31005 MB installed size, 9820 MB compressed size.
[09:42] <Amaranth> !dstats sarge
[09:42] <Amaranth> hrm
[09:42] <Sionide> arguhoh, can't think of anything else then.. sorry
[09:42] <Amaranth> it used to show debian too
[09:42] <arguhoh> Sionide: alright, thanks
[09:42] <Amaranth> dave: anyway, as you can see, ubuntu is not lacking anything as far as packages go
[09:42] <dave> can i compile my own kernel in ubuntu?
[09:43] <Amaranth> sure, but you won't need to
[09:43] <dave> but i want to.
[09:43] <mpmc> I used to tell myself, You would wait..
[09:43] <Amaranth> dave: Not many people here will be able to help you with it but you can do it.
[09:43] <eli> question for the brilliant ubuntu gods, is there a way to grab another partition and add it to the ext3 partition that ubuntu is based on?
[09:44] <dave> Amaranth: as i understand it, it is only copying the bzimage, yes?
[09:44] <gsuveg> anybody use php+sqlite ??
[09:44] <AlexBO> hello! I've just download xtraceroute and it says me this: "OpenGL not supported". how can i see if i've got it? and if i haven't it, how can i install it?
[09:44] <concept10> Anyone here using Breezy or Sid sources?
[09:44] <Amaranth> dave: If you don't know how to do it I wouldn't recommend it. You have to make an initrd and such too.
[09:44] <eli> !fglrx
[09:44] <ubotu> I heard fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:45] <eli> AlexBO go to the link ubotu gave
[09:45] <Amaranth> dave: 99% of ubuntu users have no need for a custom kernel
[09:45] <dave> no, i suppose not. i am a gentoo user and i am looking for something else
[09:45] <dave> is ubuntu right for me, or should i keep looking
[09:45] <AlexBO> eli: where is the link?
[09:45] <gsuveg> Dave ubuntu != gentoo ;)
[09:45] <Amaranth> dave: ubuntu is right for you if you want to quick screwing around with the computer and just use it
[09:46] <eli> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:46] <dave> no really? i thought it was exactly the same thing. rolleyes
[09:46] <concept10> dave, you can compile a kernel if you wish.
[09:46] <tritium> dave, but you can still build packages from source in ubuntu, if that's your cup of tea
[09:46] <zerboxx> When I look to see what updates are available, I see 2 mozilla-firefox updates, which it wont let me install, unless I do the smart upgrade through synaptic, should I do this?
[09:46] <dave> no, no source. thats why i am switching :)
[09:46] <Amaranth> dave: iirc make-kpkg handles everything for you there
[09:46] <dave> i still want a custom kernel though, just for kicks. so, sounds good
[09:46] <Amaranth> it even makes you a deb for the kernel
[09:46] <dave> it is 2.6 right?
[09:46] <tritium> yes, and make-kpkg is in the package named "kernel-package"
[09:47] <dave> i would be worried if it wasn't
[09:47] <Amaranth> but there might be issues, i haven't compiled a kernel since i was on debian and wanted 2.6.1
[09:47] <AlexBO> eli: where is the link?
[09:47] <Amaranth> 2.6.10
[09:47] <tritium> dave, there's a KernelHowto on thew wiki.  The User Documention URL listed in the topic links to it.
[09:47] <lqb> anyone can help me with cross compile?
[09:47] <tritium> s/thew/the
[09:47] <lqb> :S
[09:47] <concept10> Amaranth, I understand you want to discourage people from compiling kernels and such, I just say let them do it if they want to learn, there is truly no need for it, but some people just want to do it
[09:47] <dave> it's either ubuntu or debian. i can't decide!
[09:47] <eli> dave i cusomize a lot of things with ubuntu (except the kernel) and it works great. like Amaranth said it is very usable without the necessity of screwing around with it
[09:47] <HappyFool> !kernelhowto
[09:47] <ubotu> somebody said kernelhowto was "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto"
[09:48] <HappyFool> lqb: asked in #gcc ?
[09:48] <Amaranth> dave: ubuntu has releases that aren't 3 years apart
[09:48] <concept10> HappyFool, remove the quotation marks from that
[09:48] <Amaranth> dave: and rides the bleeding edge of xorg and gnome releases
[09:48] <lqb> HappyFool,  ok
[09:48] <eli> its 6 months apart :)
[09:48] <HappyFool> concept10: yessir
[09:48] <AlexBO> ubotu: eli said me this:  AlexBO go to the link ubotu gave. can you help me?
[09:48] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, AlexBO
[09:48] <dave> Amaranth: thats pretty good
[09:48] <dave> one last thing
[09:48] <HappyFool> AlexBO: he meant this:
[09:48] <eli> AlexBO https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:48] <HappyFool> !fglrx
[09:48] <ubotu> methinks fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:49] <zerboxx> When using synaptic to upgrade ubuntu, should I use default upgrade, or smart upgrade?
[09:49] <dave> the first time around, i completely missed the prompt for what kind of install i want
[09:49] <dave> ed
[09:49] <dave> where is it?
[09:49] <Amaranth> dave: breezy is going to have/has xorg 7.0 and gnome 2.12
[09:49] <eli> zerboxx smart upgrade
[09:49] <eli> its safer
[09:49] <AlexBO> HappyFool: eli: ubotu: thanks
[09:49] <Amaranth> what do you mean what kind of install?
[09:49] <dave> ex. server, / full
[09:49] <Amaranth> oh
[09:49] <eli> AlexBO =)
[09:49] <Amaranth> at the first script on the install cd where it just says to press enter
[09:50] <Amaranth> type 'server' and press enter
[09:50] <dave> oh.. why cant you pick it after that
[09:50] <dave> thats interesting. i think you should be able to pick right before it copies the files
[09:50] <concept10> Amaranth, where did you learn python.  Are you a comp sci student or self taught?
[09:50] <Amaranth> dave: not a GNOME fan?
[09:50] <dave> not in the least.
[09:50] <Amaranth> concept10: self taught, just starting college
[09:50] <Amaranth> dave: KDE?
[09:50] <eli> dave why not?
[09:50] <MrGardenHoseMan> apt-get can't find java-package
[09:50] <dave> i didnt enjoy it when i used it
[09:50] <eli> or ICEWM?
[09:50] <MrGardenHoseMan> is there an alternative?
[09:50] <dave> the theme manager crashed.
[09:51] <Amaranth> MrGardenHoseMan: is multiverse enabled?
[09:51] <MrGardenHoseMan> no idea
[09:51] <eli> !repositories
[09:51] <MrGardenHoseMan> how do i check
[09:51] <ubotu> it has been said that repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:51] <dave> one of those desktop managers sucks
[09:51] <mumbles> bugger it going to swich into windows and do some websutff in dreamweaver
[09:51] <dave> uses too much ram
[09:51] <tritium> MrGardenHoseMan, it's in multiverse
[09:51] <eli> MrGardenHoseMan follow the link ubotu gave
[09:51] <bwlang> MrGardenHoseMan: you need to build a java package from the sun .tgz file... google for make-jpkg (note jpkg not kpkg)
[09:51] <concept10> Amaranth, do you have recommendation for a good source of python tutorials?
[09:52] <MrGardenHoseMan> heh linux is a pain in the ass
[09:52] <tritium> concept10, dive into python, which is already installed for you
[09:52] <Amaranth> dave: i've got GNOME running with firefox, totem, xchat, muine, tomboy, and blam running and i'm only using 180MB
[09:52] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks though
[09:52] <eli> bwlang? cant you get a non-free java sdk package from apt-get?
[09:52] <HappyFool> concept10: thinkcspy is good for beginner programmers
[09:52] <Amaranth> concept10: what he said, diveintopython is great
[09:52] <dave> Amaranth: interesting
[09:52] <dave> i am going to try KDE because i have never used it
[09:52] <Amaranth> dave: I'm on breezy though, dunno how much of a difference that is.
[09:53] <eli> KDE = nightmare
[09:53] <Amaranth> dave: You want to get a kubuntu CD then.
[09:53] <tritium> MrGardenHoseMan, actually, it's Sun's licensing that makes using java such a pain
[09:53] <Amaranth> dave: and join #kubuntu :)
[09:53] <HappyFool> concept10: http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/    --- imo diveintopython is for those who've done a bit of coding before
[09:53] <dave> cant i just emerge it?
[09:53] <eli> kubuntu still has a lot of kinks
[09:53] <dave> sorry, apt get
[09:53] <dave> heh
[09:53] <Amaranth> HappyFool: That's what I used, actually
[09:53] <tritium> MrGardenHoseMan, they don't allow us to provide pre-built packages
[09:53] <Riddell> eli: what kinks?
[09:53] <seth_k> eli, not with KDE 3.4.1, it's a dream
[09:53] <Amaranth> dave: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop works too
[09:53] <Riddell> seth_k: thanks :)
[09:53] <HappyFool> Amaranth: your opinion of it?
[09:53] <Amaranth> HappyFool: great stuff
[09:53] <seth_k> cheers Riddell, Kubuntu pwns ;)
[09:53] <eli> oh, a friend of mine tried the first version of kubuntu and went back to ubuntu is less than two hours
[09:53] <dave> can someone clarify
[09:54] <Amaranth> HappyFool: I'd been using PHP for 2 years when I read that but it still taught me a lot.
[09:54] <concept10> Amaranth, HappyFool thanks for the advice.
[09:54] <dave> why do you make the KDE and the GNOME version of ubuntu sound liek two different distributions
[09:54] <Amaranth> HappyFool: I didn't actually know the concepts or terminology behind what I was using before reading that.
[09:54] <HappyFool> Amaranth: cool
[09:54] <seth_k> eli, there were some pretty bad crash bugs with 3.4.0. In my experience it is now rock stable though
[09:54] <seth_k> dave, marketing :P
[09:54] <Amaranth> dave: They are.
[09:54] <tritium> dave, they are
[09:54] <dave> aren't they similar?
[09:54] <HappyFool> concept10: also, try #python on this server
[09:54] <eli> seth_k that is good to hear. i prefer gnome, but i like kde as well
[09:54] <eli> gnome is faster =)
[09:54] <Amaranth> dave: They share the same repositories.
[09:55] <dave> but similar otherwise?
[09:55] <seth_k> eli: kioslaves. No more needs to be said. :D
[09:55] <Amaranth> dave: But they are two seperate distrobutions.
[09:55] <eli> lol
[09:55] <eli> ok
[09:55] <dave> okay.. can i choose not to install gnome?
[09:55] <Amaranth> dave: server
[09:55] <dave> ok, ok. so no package selection?
[09:55] <Amaranth> nope
[09:55] <truz24> dave, its awesome too, server only takes like 250 megs on install
[09:55] <eli> there was an article about kde and gnome -> could be possible that kde and gnome merge =S
[09:55] <dave> interesting.
[09:55] <Amaranth> Too confusing for new users to have that in the installer.
[09:56] <Riddell> Amaranth: arguable, it's the same package archive
[09:56] <Amaranth> that's what the server option is for :)
[09:56] <tritium> and then install kubuntu-desktop after you choose the server install
[09:56] <dave> Amaranth: come on, you're kidding me
[09:56] <dave> Amaranth: you could have a seperate option for package options
[09:56] <dave> like slackware. that was fun
[09:56] <Amaranth> dave: If it was possible the installer would ask nothing more than your language. :)
[09:56] <dave> except slackware doesnt have a package system to speak of, last i checked
[09:56] <eli> slackware is still pretty good yes?
[09:56] <HappyFool> if you choose expert mode you might be able to do some tweaking. expert install mode looks quite fun.
[09:56] <Amaranth> dave: The end goal is making it so _anyone_ can do this stuff.
[09:57] <Sionide> eli, sounds good to me.
[09:57] <dave> Amaranth: i dont see why you couldn't have, in addition to a "server" option, one for selecting your packages
[09:57] <funkyHat> dave, you can install with no gnome
[09:57] <Sionide> i use apps from both, basically got most of the KDE libs because of that
[09:57] <dave> but yeah, ubuntu was pretty simple to install, it was done before i knew it
[09:57] <funkyHat> there's an option for 'server install' which has no X
[09:57] <Amaranth> dave: Not much of a difference to it though. server just installs a minimal system and you can do package selection from the terminal after the install. :)
[09:57] <eli> ubuntu and kubuntu = installing a program 30 sec with apt-get. with some sh install or such plan a free afternoon
[09:57] <dave> but the partitioning was a little confusing.. i dont think new users would enjoy that.. do you have an autopartitioner in there?
[09:57] <seth_k> indeed, Ubuntu installs so fast
[09:58] <dave> i am used to using plain fdisk and imo its a lot more intuitive
[09:58] <Sionide> 30 sec? more like 10...
[09:58] <eli> dave, there there is
[09:58] <Amaranth> dave: Yeah, you can just tell it to blow the existing partitions away and let the installer set it up for you.
[09:58] <eli> Sionide ... true :)
[09:58] <Amaranth> dave: It's really only a problem if you want to keep things.
[09:58] <mpmc> The install is soo simple.
[09:58] <eli> adios people
[09:58] <La_PaRCa> Ok, does anybody know how I can rip one of those cds that come with data and music? im having some trouble with that
[09:59] <dave> Amaranth: why?
[09:59] <dave> Amaranth: why wouldnt you be able to just make new partitions inside the unpartitioned space as if the other ones were not there
[09:59] <zerboxx> When I go to the firefox page, it's telling me about some ubuntu 1.06 mistake thing, if when I go to synaptic it has no further updates (using smart), do I have 1.06 even though it says its 1.04?
[09:59] <Amaranth> dave: Because we haven't figured out that whole artificial intellegence thing yet. :)
[09:59] <dave> what sort of partitions does ubuntu use, anyway?
[09:59] <dave> just root?
[09:59] <Amaranth> dave: What if there is no unpartitioned space?
[09:59] <mpmc> Zerboxx.. I had the same
[09:59] <dave> Amaranth: then you're in trouble
[09:59] <Amaranth> iirc it sets up /, /home, and swap
[09:59] <dave> Amaranth: but you know what i mean. it would work
[10:00] <HappyFool> i have just / and swap
[10:00] <HappyFool> i think that mine is a default install
[10:00] <Amaranth> HappyFool: Did you do the partitioning yourself?
[10:00] <HappyFool> Amaranth: um. possibly
[10:00] <Amaranth> HappyFool: Or did you tell the installer to do it all for you?
[10:00] <zerboxx> mpmc: So, any idea if it is 1.06 or nor?
[10:00] <Amaranth> If you told it to do it for you it makes /home separate.
[10:00] <HappyFool> Amaranth: no, i guess i must've -- i have windows and preserved my warty install
[10:01] <dave> you could put like, "use entire disk" , "use entire unpartitioned space", or "manual partition"
[10:01] <Amaranth> At least I think it does, I haven't wiped /home since warty so I always do a custom install. :)
[10:01] <dave> so if you were switching from another linux, you could delete all the linux partitions and select the second option
[10:01] <mpmc> zerboxx: you  have an older version. So, do I
[10:01] <dave> obviously the idea needs work but you get it
[10:01] <tritium> zerboxx, there is no 1.0.6 ubuntu package yet
[10:01] <|rockinnerd|> how do you move the main panel?
[10:02] <mpmc> nice username root__ :P
[10:02] <dave> ok. next time we see eachother it will be from an ubuntu desktop
[10:02] <dave> :)
[10:02] <dave> oh wait
[10:02] <dave> does ubuntu have rppppoe?
[10:02] <dave> i couldnt find it
[10:02] <Sionide> |rockinnerd|, pretty sure it's click and drag, but careful - mine mucked up after i moved it to the side of the screen before..
[10:02] <zerboxx> tritium: Ok, thanks
[10:03] <Amaranth> !info rpppoe
[10:03] <|rockinnerd|> Sionide, i did the same thing :)
[10:03] <Amaranth> hmm
[10:03] <Amaranth> !info pppoe
[10:03] <ubotu> pppoe: (PPP over Ethernet driver), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 3.5-4ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[10:03] <MrGardenHoseMan> still says it can't find java-package, even though multiverse is enabled
[10:03] <Amaranth> that?
[10:03] <Amaranth> !info java-package
[10:03] <tritium> MrGardenHoseMan, did you update your package listing to that synaptic/apt knows about the new packages?
[10:03] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.23 (hoary), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 264 kB
[10:03] <mpmc> !info mpd
[10:03] <ubotu> mpd: (Music Player Daemon, the name says it all), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.11.5-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 93 kB, Installed size: 316 kB
[10:04] <Amaranth> ack
[10:04] <MrGardenHoseMan> yeah
[10:04] <mpmc> !info nuts
[10:04] <Amaranth> mpmc: If you're doing it for yourself please do it in a PM.
[10:04] <tritium> MrGardenHoseMan, are you using apt-get or synaptic?
[10:04] <mpmc> LOL
[10:04] <MrGardenHoseMan> by click on 'reload' right?
[10:04] <MrGardenHoseMan> apt-get
[10:04] <|rockinnerd|> Sionide, rt-click on the panel and select properties <== what i did
[10:04] <Amaranth> click on reload, yeah
[10:04] <|rockinnerd|> to fix it
[10:04] <mpmc> Doing what myself?
[10:04] <|rockinnerd|> EWW! PERV! lol
[10:04] <arguhoh> haha...the fix to my problem - remove ide cable..put the same one back in and now magically it can install
[10:04] <Amaranth> mpmc: getting info on a package for yourself
[10:05] <nebular> need some help with the quake2 package, my mouse is all over the place and the usual problem of gpm doesn't apply. my searches have come up with nothing. I'm running hoary
[10:05] <Amaranth> arguhoh: it was probably loose
[10:05] <tritium> he's just goofing around
[10:05] <gangalee> is there a script to install de-css?
[10:05] <mpmc> :s
[10:05] <mpmc> :-!
[10:05] <arguhoh> odd kind of loose.  I could boot the first part of the ubuntu CD and all of gentoo live
[10:05] <|rockinnerd|> gangalee, in multiverse i think
[10:05] <|rockinnerd|> it is in
[10:06] <tritium> No, it can't be provided even in multiverse.
[10:06] <tritium> !restricted
[10:06] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:06] <tritium> gangalee, see that URL above
[10:06] <|rockinnerd|>                                                                                                          ^^ there
[10:06] <|rockinnerd|> d'oh
[10:06] <Sionide> |rockinnerd|, yep i managed to get it fixed luckily, then added all the stuff back on
[10:06] <|rockinnerd|> same
[10:06] <gangalee> thx everybody!
[10:07] <Sionide> |rockinnerd|, that was the first time something really bad happened to my ubuntu :)
[10:07] <Sionide> byee! ;)
[10:07] <dave> can i get pppoe with my server install?
[10:08] <funkyHat> i wish ubuntu would fix their https certs
[10:08] <dave> yes? no?
[10:09] <tritium> dave, if it's not installed by default, you can certainly install it after
[10:09] <dave> how?
[10:09] <dave> that's all i need to know, then i can start finding things out for myself.
[10:09] <Hikaru79> How can I check my default runlevel is on startup?
[10:09] <Hikaru79> *what
[10:09] <tritium> dave, "sudo apt-get install pppoe", or through synaptic
[10:09] <dave> dont you need a network connection for that?
[10:10] <tritium> dave, if the pppoe .deb is not on the install CD, yes.
[10:10] <pdg> Hi everyone: is it common for NVidia acceleration to stop working every once in a while?
[10:10] <phlaegel> so what's broken in breezy? I'm playing with it, and so far I'm missing mkfontdir. Are there more problems beyond that?
[10:10] <dave> how do i know if its on the cd?
[10:10] <crimsun> pdg, no it's not common
[10:10] <YFie> Hey where can I bother someone with ubuntu questions?
[10:10] <dave> YFie: probably in this channel.
[10:10] <tritium> dave, that's a good question.  I'll check for you.
[10:10] <funkyHat> dave, it is on the CD
[10:10] <dave> ok, thanks
[10:11] <rooot___> where is the kubuntu repository?
[10:11] <Hikaru79> How can I check which runlevel my computer is set to start from on boot?
[10:11] <dave> is it easy to figure out?
[10:11] <tritium> thanks, funkyHat.  you rock
[10:11] <crimsun> rooot___, same place as the Ubuntu repository.
[10:11] <tritium> Hello crimsun.
[10:11] <crimsun> Hikaru79, it uses 2
[10:11] <crimsun> hi tr
[10:11] <Hikaru79> crimsun, thanks! +)
[10:11] <crimsun> tritium, rather.
[10:11] <Hikaru79> *=)
[10:11] <dave> i will try to do it without asking any more questions. farewell
[10:11] <dave> booting ubuntu now. time me!
[10:11] <funkyHat> otherwise people with pppoe modems wouldn't be able to get on the net regardless of whether they use server install or not
[10:12] <funkyHat> that would just be silly
[10:12] <YFie> Well, I was wondering how difficult it would be to install the actual ATI issued driver for my x800?
[10:12] <crimsun> YFie, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:12] <mpmc> !info php
[10:12] <YFie> hey cheers man
[10:12] <root> hi
[10:12] <mpmc> !info php4
[10:13] <ubotu> php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 4:4.3.10-10ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB
[10:13] <mak> is there a way to run a process and limit the amount of memory it uses? i have a process that i want to run, but would still like to use my computer
[10:13] <mpmc> yes.. It's called shutting down your PC and mine...
[10:13] <LinuxJones> hello
[10:13] <Hikaru79> If I don't use a dial-up modem (therefore, I don't use the ppp protocol), is it safe to remove the 'ppp' process from my default runlevel?
[10:13] <mpmc> lol
[10:14] <vG|Zaxor> I have one hard disk, with 2 partisions. I want to install linux on one partition withour erasing the other one. Is that possible?
[10:14] <mpmc> yes
[10:15] <ReEgZ> hello
[10:15] <mpmc> I'm off to play wow!
[10:15] <Ride> What
[10:15] <mpmc> Bye :-)
[10:15] <ReEgZ> need help with an installation of ubuntu linux
[10:15] <ReEgZ> please
[10:15] <Ride> s  the problem with wiki.ubuntu?
[10:15] <LinuxJones> ReEgZ, what's wrong ?
[10:16] <Hikaru79> vG|Zaxor, yes, it's very possible.
[10:16] <mak> ReEgZ, yes, you can install it on only one partition without harming the other
[10:16] <taz> is there a burning tool for dvd:s that can handle .img files?.. gnomebaker seems not too...
[10:16] <ReEgZ> errr, it installs however
[10:16] <YFie> Ehrm.. another quiick question, apt-get tells me that there is no such package as described in the wiki. So i thought I do an apt-get update and refresh the list from the net. but then I remembered that I did CD install so maybe it ain't got no net aware repos. How do I add that ? :) Wiki, right?
[10:16] <ReEgZ> when i logon ie: enter user name n password
[10:16] <ReEgZ> it freezes
[10:16] <ReEgZ> no response at all
[10:16] <Ride> Does anyone know of a GOOD samba tutorial since the ubuntu wiki doesn't work?
[10:16] <linukso> Hmm, maybe I am missing something, but ubuntus apache setup has changed... Userdir no longer works, but the symlink is in place. Any ideas anyone?
[10:16] <ReEgZ> my disk is partitioned into 3
[10:16] <mak> YFie, go to ubuntuguide
[10:17] <ReEgZ> windows xp one 1, linux on the other, n using the last one for swap
[10:17] <LinuxJones> ReEgZ, your running Hoary (the latest stable version) ?
[10:17] <ReEgZ> yes
[10:17] <ReEgZ> Version 5.04
[10:17] <eli> anyone here know how to use synergy?
[10:17] <tritium> crimsun, you've been rather busy lately, haven't you?
[10:18] <crimsun> tritium, yeppers
[10:18] <eli> !synergy
[10:18] <ubotu> eli: Bugger all, i dunno
[10:18] <eli> :(
[10:18] <taz> is there a burning tool for dvd:s that can handle .img files?.. gnomebaker seems not too...
[10:19] <atila> Hello; Can anyone help me ? I am stuck within E16 and can neither start any programs nor get back to gnome . . . please help . . .
[10:19] <Quest-Master> atila: you can't get back to Gnome?
[10:19] <arguhoh> fasjkdfhsadf....alright, so it got past the moving stuff from the CD once or whatever then it couldn't detect a hard drive - restart installer and now it hangs at the original problem again.  replacing IDE with a new one now
[10:19] <AlexBO> i've installed the nvidia driver and now the OpenGL works. but the fonts aren't clear and it's no so easy read. what can it be? anti-aliasing?
[10:19] <Quest-Master> atila: What is the error exactly?
[10:19] <atila> well; I do not know how to ...
[10:20] <LinuxJones> ReEgZ, so your system just locks up and you can't do anything with it other than power it down ?
[10:20] <atila> thanks for replying
[10:20] <atila> I am so desperate ...
[10:20] <ReEgZ> yep
[10:20] <atila> I installed and run E16
[10:20] <ReEgZ> no response at all
[10:20] <MrGardenHoseMan> alright, i've enabled all the reposotories, reloaded them and still apt-get can't find java-package
[10:20] <MrGardenHoseMan> what am i doing wrong
[10:20] <atila> and am in this flashy Enlightenment environment
[10:20] <Quest-Master> MrGardenHoseMan: sudo apt-cache search java
[10:20] <tritium> MrGardenHoseMan, can you please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin?
[10:20] <Amaranth> MrGardenHoseMan: You are on hoary, right?
[10:20] <crimsun> MrGardenHoseMan, java-package is in multiverse. You need to ensure it's enabled.
[10:20] <LinuxJones> ReEgZ, yikes
[10:20] <ReEgZ> LinuxJones: tried using ext 3 n reiser
[10:20] <atila> but how do I stop it and get back to gnome ?
[10:20] <eli> MrGardenHoseMan : sudo apt-get update
[10:20] <Amaranth> atila: log out
[10:20] <LinuxJones> ReEgZ, that's not your problem
[10:20] <YFie> Uhm.. is there such a thing as mirrors for apt-get sources so that I can pull data from local mirrors?
[10:20] <atila> OK
[10:21] <Quest-Master> atila: Get to GDM, and choose Gnome for which desktop to log into
[10:21] <eli> then use synaptic to search for java
[10:21] <Quest-Master> atila: Yeah, log out
[10:21] <eli> oops
[10:21] <eli> not java
[10:21] <eli> yes java
[10:21] <eli> sorry
[10:21] <atila> thanks people ...
[10:21] <eli> waking up still
[10:21] <eli> sips coffee
[10:21] <atila> hope to thank you again in gnome :-)
[10:21] <atila> over and out
[10:21] <Quest-Master> AlexBO: Most likely anti-aliasing is the problem.. Check the properties in System (or is it Desktop Preferences?) -> Fonts and play with the options there
[10:22] <eli> AlexBO you still there?
[10:22] <AlexBO> eli: yes
[10:22] <eli> never mind Quest-Master was a step ahead of me
[10:22] <Quest-Master> hehe~
[10:22] <eli> =P
[10:22] <eli> anyone familiar with synergy
[10:23] <MrGardenHoseMan>  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[10:23] <MrGardenHoseMan>  deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[10:23] <MrGardenHoseMan>  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[10:23] <MrGardenHoseMan>  deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[10:23] <MrGardenHoseMan>  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[10:23] <MrGardenHoseMan>  deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[10:23] <MrGardenHoseMan> yes i'm on ahoary
[10:23] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: how can i see if the anti-aliasing is active?
[10:23] <MrGardenHoseMan> apt-get update didn't do anything
[10:23] <LinuxJones> ReEgZ, instead of logging into the system hit ctrl+alt+F2 to get open a new terminal window. Type sudo (enter your user password) apt-get update && apt-get upgrade        You can get back to the gnome login screen by hitting ctrl+alt+F7. Then re-boot.
[10:23] <atila> sorry to bother again but ...
[10:23] <MrGardenHoseMan> and i'm posisitve multiverse is enabled
[10:23] <atila> I am in enlightenment again
[10:23] <tritium> MrGardenHoseMan, next time please paste on pastebin or in #flood.
[10:23] <Quest-Master> AlexBO: There should be options under the Fonts dialog..
[10:23] <eli> ah ha you need backports
[10:23] <atila> after logging out and in :-(
[10:23] <Quest-Master> atila: Did you select GNOME in GDM?
[10:23] <ReEgZ> LinuxJones: cool thnx
[10:23] <ReEgZ> ill try that
[10:23] <eli> MrGardenHoseMan : you need backports
[10:23] <MrGardenHoseMan> sorry
[10:23] <MrGardenHoseMan> will do
[10:23] <eli> !java
[10:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[10:24] <atila> how do I get to GDM ? (me noob)
[10:24] <YFie> ok, worked, cheers for the help, y'all!
[10:24] <Quest-Master> atila: You should get there when you logout..
[10:24] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: well...no
[10:24] <Quest-Master> AlexBO: ?
[10:24] <atila> oops sorry big time :-P
[10:24] <atila> thanks again
[10:24] <LinuxJones> ReEgZ, hopefully it's a bug that's been fixed in a recent update :)
[10:24] <atila> over
[10:24] <Quest-Master> atila: np.. hope it works
[10:24] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: i've the italian version, so there isn't written "anti-aliasing"
[10:24] <tritium> MrGardenHoseMan, multiverse is not listed above (only universe)
[10:25] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: are you sure there is the option here?
[10:25] <Quest-Master> AlexBO: It is somewhere there, you might have to snoop around a bit for it.
[10:25] <ReEgZ> well i really hope so
[10:25] <ReEgZ> we using mandrake at work
[10:25] <tritium> MrGardenHoseMan, you don't need backports, you need "multi" in addition to "uni" verse.
[10:25] <ReEgZ> and i've never worked on linux so gota learn fast
[10:25] <eli> Quest-Master is there a terminal command to set the anti-aliasing for nVidia cards? i use fglrx so i dont know
[10:25] <MrGardenHoseMan> yeah just noticed it don't understand why it's not there though
[10:26] <tritium> no worries
[10:26] <MrGardenHoseMan> i'm even looking at it right now and it's set
[10:26] <MrGardenHoseMan> gui wise anyways
[10:26] <Quest-Master> eli: No idea, I don't have an NVidia or ATi card so.. hmm..
[10:26] <LinuxJones> ReEgZ, If your using Mandrake (Mandrive at work I would recommend you use that at home.
[10:26] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: it's no the firs time i've this problem. i've already make all the possible combiantions there
[10:26] <Quest-Master> AlexBO: are you on AMD64?
[10:27] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: yes, why?
[10:27] <MrGardenHoseMan> anyone want to paste their sources.list?
[10:27] <MrGardenHoseMan> with multiverse
[10:27] <taz> i can do that
[10:27] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks
[10:27] <tritium> taz, can you use #flood please?
[10:27] <taz> i changed to multiverse yesterday..
[10:27] <MrGardenHoseMan> already there
[10:27] <taz> ok...
[10:27] <Quest-Master> AlexBO: I have seen this problem before with AMDs.. let me see if I can find a solution, one minute
[10:28] <tritium> thanks, guys!
[10:28] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: THANKs!!! thank you so much
[10:28] <eli> wait.. MrGardenHoseMan you have amd?
[10:28] <ReEgZ> what are the differences between mandrake and ubuntu?
[10:28] <MrGardenHoseMan> intel
[10:28] <eli> oh, ok
[10:28] <ReEgZ> i thought the basic commands and usages stayed the same
[10:29] <qt2> ...i somehow managed to hose my sound... o.O;
[10:29] <atila> Hello again from GNOME :-)
[10:29] <atila> it worked and I just stopped to say thank you to all
[10:29] <eli> they do, but mandrake is kde based and uses rpm packages, while ubuntu is even better with synaptic for program installation
[10:29] <atila> this is why I love ubuntu ... the great community :-)
[10:29] <eli> and bleeding edge xorg and gnome
[10:29] <atila> thanks :-)
[10:30] <ReEgZ> greek to me mate.
[10:30] <eli> i tried mandrake twice... alway left it unsatisfied
[10:30] <ReEgZ> its all microsoft in my head
[10:30] <ReEgZ> but i keen to learn linux
[10:30] <eli> ubutnu ReEgZ is the best linux distro to learn on
[10:31] <Quest-Master> AlexBO: Are you able to get to a System Tools -> NVIDIA Settings dialog?
[10:31] <nebular> has anyone here got quake2 worknig on their system?
[10:31] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: let me see
[10:31] <tritium> ReEgZ, most of the command are in fact the same.  One main difference is the emphasis on using "sudo".
[10:31] <atila> nebular : me
[10:32] <Quest-Master> atila: It worked? Awesome. :D
[10:32] <taz> Question:  is there a burning tool for dvd:s that can handle .img files?.. gnomebaker seems not too...
[10:32] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: i've not any nvidia icons
[10:32] <ReEgZ> explain sudo to me plz
[10:32] <Quest-Master> AlexBO: Odd.. you have nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings installed?
[10:32] <atila> yep; Thanks Quest-Master :-) and thanks to the ubuntu community . . . I love you people
[10:32] <Quest-Master> atila: :)
[10:32] <tritium> ReEgZ, mind if I give you a URL to read first?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:32] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: nvidia-glx yes, the second let me see
[10:32] <tritium> ReEgZ, if you have any questions after reading that, don't hesitate to ask.
[10:33] <nebular> atila: did you every have issues wit the mouse?
[10:33] <atila> nebular : Yes I did : first didn't work at all ...
[10:33] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: yes, but i can't run it
[10:33] <ReEgZ> yeah thatl be cool, il check it out thnx
[10:33] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: yes, i can!!!
[10:33] <firemax> bonjour
[10:34] <avebell> hiya everyone
[10:34] <atila> nebular : but even I did it 2 days ago cannot remember how ...
[10:34] <Quest-Master> AlexBO: So you can run it?
[10:34] <atila> nebula : thou it was easy even for me :-)
[10:34] <tritium> hello, firemax
[10:34] <firemax> hello tritium
[10:34] <nebular> atila: well currently I have sound and video working fine, but when I try and move the mouse, it will only move horizontally and very fast
[10:34] <nebular> atila: was that similar to your mouse issue?
[10:34] <Quest-Master> AlexBO: You have also run: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable -- right?
[10:35] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: ni
[10:35] <atila> nebular : Had exactly the same problem; has sth. to do with settings I guess
[10:35] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: no. have i to run that?
[10:35] <nebular> atila: you still have your config?
[10:35] <atila> nebular : guess I corrected it from in game options
[10:35] <atila> nebular : I do have it and I play too :-)
[10:35] <atila> nebular : wait a moment
[10:35] <Sputn1k> Hello, I was running Warty and ET ran fine. I upgraded to Hoary and I had problems. The problems that I had would be a black screen would come up and thats all that would happen. I could move that black screen around with moving my curser. Somebody know how to fix it??
[10:36] <qt2> ...is there any simple way to reset my sound to the way it was upon install?
[10:36] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: it said me that there are errated options in xorg.conf
[10:36] <AlexBO> can i send you the answer in pv?
[10:37] <Quest-Master> AlexBO: Which answer?
[10:38] <Sputn1k> damn, nobody knows...?
[10:38] <Quest-Master> Sputn1k: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:38] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: i have found the error. let me explain it (because i don't know how to resolve it)
[10:38] <Quest-Master> AlexBO: ok
[10:38] <atila> nebular ; I'll paste it on private ?
[10:38] <AlexBO> Quest-Master: can i write to you in pv?
[10:38] <Quest-Master> AlexBO: sure
[10:39] <eli> secretive people
[10:39] <eli> :)
[10:39] <nebular> atila: ok
[10:39] <atila> file coming :-)
[10:40] <LinuxJones> ReEgZ, the basic commands are the same but Mandrake is based in Redhat and Ubuntu is based on Debian. They are very similar but things are done slightly differently. Like where configuration files are located and different package managment systems (ie how to install software).
[10:41] <eli> no one know synergy?
[10:41] <eli> the pogram...
[10:41] <atila> eli : bump
[10:41] <ReEgZ> thnx for the help everyone. ill be back for more soon
[10:41] <ReEgZ> laterzz
[10:41] <LinuxJones> eli, there are some tutorials online
[10:41] <funkyHat> well that was bloody scary....
[10:41] <LinuxJones> ReEgZ, bye
[10:41] <atila> nebular : I am trying to send the file (?)
[10:42] <eli> i know, but the tutorials for the synergy site is not very clear
[10:42] <eli> looking for other howto's
[10:42] <funkyHat> i just played with nvidia-settings, and suddenly discovered that i couldn't see a thing
[10:42] <funkyHat> fortunately zapping X reset the settings
[10:43] <njs> i apologize if this has already been asked, but my friend is new to linux and he's having problems
[10:43] <njs> his ubuntu freezes when he logs in
[10:43] <eli> njs
[10:43] <eli> he has to remove .ICEauthority
[10:43] <eli> when the system freezes do the following
[10:43] <njs> eli: and where might this file be found? many thanks
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[10:44] <eli> then you will be at a terminal
[10:44] <njs> yeah, he knows how to login and stuff
[10:44] <eli> its in $HOME
[10:44] <eli> do ls .ICEauthority
[10:44] <eli> if its there
[10:44] <eli> rm .ICEauthority
[10:44] <eli> then restart gdm
[10:44] <eli> and its hould work
[10:45] <trigg> eli, njs: don't mean to but in, but I had a similar problem in gentoo in the past - also had to remove some files in /tmp
[10:45] <nebular_> atila: you could email
[10:45] <MrGardenHoseMan> is 'WriteOut' in pico same as Save?
[10:45] <atila> nebular : OK
[10:45] <eli> trigg, always butt in =) if needed. the more help we give the better
[10:45] <atila> address ?
[10:45] <njs> just to clarify, it doesn't show any error message or anything, is that expected?
[10:45] <nebular_> atila: the.nebular@gmail.com
[10:45] <njs> and yeah, butting in is cool ;)
[10:45] <eli> that sounds like .ICEauthority
[10:46] <njs> just gets to the Ubuntu brown and *bang* nothing
[10:46] <atila> nebular : Roger
[10:46] <njs> thanks a lot then
[10:46] <eli> try the .ICEauthority thing and see if works
[10:46] <airmikey> trying to compile a program but i get this   configure: error: Cannot find GTK: Is gtk-config in path?
[10:46] <njs> I'll tell him that
[10:46] <tritium> MrGardenHoseMan, yes
[10:46] <eli> ok, no problem
[10:46] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks
[10:46] <dave> wooooo
[10:46] <dave> i have ubuntu now
[10:46] <qt2> is there any simple way to reset my sound to the way it was upon install?
[10:46] <nebular_> atila: lemme know when you've sent it
[10:46] <trigg> eli: no problem - njs:  yeah I had problem with permissions some files basically become inaccessibly by gnome-session
[10:47] <atila> nebular : I've sent it
[10:47] <trigg> njs: but I had to delete both the files in home directory and those in /tmp
[10:47] <trigg> njs: well, just the .ICE... files
[10:47] <eli> trigg : i had that once as well. what temp files did you remove? i just stopped <Control><c> my network config during boot and then the problem went away
[10:48] <atila> nebular : got it ?
[10:48] <eli> so dave, what do you think of ubuntu?
[10:48] <eli> first impressions
[10:48] <trigg> eli:  just the hidden .ICE and .X11 files
[10:49] <eli> .X11 files... i think that is what i missed
[10:49] <eli> i will look for it if that happens again
[10:49] <trigg> eli: don't suppose you know much about GRUB?
[10:50] <dbernar1> why
[10:50] <dave> how do i search packages?
[10:50] <eli> trigg : i work with GRUB, but i have had no serious problems with it (other than on mandrake two years ago)
[10:50] <trigg> i have about a 2 minute delay between when I select my kernel and when it initializes
[10:50] <eli> reallly? that is strange
[10:51] <dbernar1> dave, do you use the synaptic package manager?
[10:51] <trigg> doesn't seem to happen on my laptop - nor did it happen with other distros
[10:51] <eli> reinstall the GRB
[10:51] <eli> GRUB
[10:51] <eli> that may help
[10:51] <dave> i dont know what synaptic is.
[10:51] <frank_> dave you can use synaptic
[10:51] <dbernar1> dave, System>Admin>Synaptic, check it out
[10:51] <dave> i just installed ubuntu server. the apt-get man page is not really telling me anything.
[10:51] <eli> dave do -> man apt-get
[10:51] <trigg> eli: will do - and my reinstall you mean re-run grub . . . right?
[10:51] <eli> oh
[10:51] <tritium> dave, if you prefer the command line, "apt-cache search <searchterm>"
[10:51] <atila> I am sorry but I cannot do that Dave (sorry I would die without this joke)
[10:51] <eli> !GRUB
[10:51] <dbernar1> dave
[10:51] <ubotu> grub is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[10:51] <eli> :)
[10:51] <HappyFool> dave: maybe the wiki will be more informative
[10:51] <HappyFool> !apt
[10:51] <ubotu> I heard apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[10:52] <HappyFool> !repositories
[10:52] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:52] <nebular_> atila: differences are minor and have nothing to do with the mouse
[10:52] <dbernar1> then, the command to search through your repos is apt-cache search package
[10:52] <atila> dave : on the system menu somewhere it is
[10:52] <dave> i can see install, remove, build dep, check, clean
[10:52] <atila> nebular : hmmmm . . .
[10:52] <dave> no search. does apt-get not come with that?
[10:52] <trigg> ubotu: thanks, I just thought there might be a specific bug with grub and the ubuntu kernel
[10:52] <ubotu> trigg: no worries
[10:52] <HappyFool> dave: try also 'sudo aptitude' -- text "gui" for apt. don't know if it comes with ther server install
[10:52] <atila> nebular : let me just start the game and come back here
[10:52] <tritium> dave "apt-cache search"
[10:52] <frank_> like dbernar1 said, apt-cache search <searchterm>
[10:52] <eli> trigg : that didnt help i realized
[10:53] <dave> cool
[10:53] <eli> one second i found something before about reinstalling grub
[10:53] <nebular__> atila: well i"ve narrowed it a bit.
[10:53] <trigg> eli: standing-by
[10:53] <eli> ok, brb
[10:53] <dbernar1> dave, did you add any repositories to your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:54] <nebular__> atila: I turned off windowed mouse and it moves ok until it leaves the window
[10:54] <Pudland> need help with 1st time install on Dell 2350
[10:54] <dave> not at all. i should probably read the stinking documentation.
[10:54] <frank_> anyone know how to figure out which ports are needed by an application. Is there a log of connections refused by the firewall for an application?
[10:54] <nebular__> atila: I suspect it could be my xorg configuration
[10:54] <dbernar1> Pudland: with what ?
[10:54] <dbernar1> dave, well, you could do that.
[10:54] <dbernar1> the repositories URL above from ubotu is a good plave, I think.
[10:54] <Pudland> dbernar1  it locks up at hotplug subsystem
[10:55] <dbernar1> dave, do you have a computer you can browse on? or perhaps know how to browse cl?
[10:55] <dave> i have whatever's on the livecd
[10:55] <dbernar1> plave^=place, a good read...
[10:55] <dave> which line am i uncommenting here?
[10:55] <dbernar1> dave, so, live cd, or server install??
[10:56] <qt2> blah, yep... completly screwed up my sound... :(
[10:56] <dave> server install, but i can get things from the CD.
[10:56] <dave> and in a minute i will be able to get stuff from repos. hopefully
[10:56] <dbernar1> dave: ya, you sound competent...
[10:56] <A[D] minS> hola ppl
[10:56] <dbernar1> hola
[10:56] <Pudland> dbernar1  it locks up at hotplug subsystem on boot up
[10:56] <atila> nebular : in game options I guess
[10:56] <A[D] minS> gaim: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3.4' not found (required by gaim) <-- i dono what i have to install
[10:57] <atila> nebular : did you disable joystick there ???
[10:57] <dbernar1> A[D] minS: why compile gaim?
[10:57] <dave> thats nice of you
[10:57] <nebular__> atila: disable joystick where?
[10:57] <frank_> anyone know how to figure out which ports are needed by an application. Is there a log of connections refused by the firewall for an application?
[10:57] <atila> press ESC in game
[10:57] <atila> select options
[10:57] <nebular__> atila: yeah I did
[10:57] <atila> there it is
[10:57] <dbernar1> Pudland: not sure, what did you install exactly, and how did you get the installation disc.
[10:57] <atila> and ?
[10:57] <nebular__> atila: same issue
[10:57] <atila> it had worked for me :-(
[10:57] <Pudland> iso from ubuntu website
[10:57] <dave> frank_: i dont know, but usually you can look it up for the specific program.
[10:57] <atila> argh ! wanna help someone !
[10:58] <trigg> eli: not a problem, I will keep tinkering
[10:58] <atila> brb
[10:58] <Hikaru79> How can I allow remote MySQL connections on a default Ubuntu mysql-server4.1 install?
[10:58] <mic_> hi my ftrst time here totom will not work
[10:58] <trigg> eli: i think it has some thing to do with the initrd
[10:58] <dbernar1> Pudland: ubuntu|kubuntu, hoary|whatelse?
[10:58] <Hikaru79> At the moment, it's only allowing localhost.
[10:58] <dbernar1> ||
[10:58] <frank_> Dave I know usually, I can find it that way but not always
[10:58] <Pudland> ubuntu hoary
[10:58] <eli> trigg : forget about reinstalling GRUB. it sounds evil
[10:58] <Pudland> default install
[10:59] <atila> nebular : I am back ... well I had almost the same problem but had somehow corrected it and it was so easy :-(
[10:59] <frank_> Dave I was used to firewalls in Windows which would pop up to tell me  a program wanted a connection
[10:59] <dbernar1> Pudland: I would love to say check the md5sum, but no clue what that means...
[10:59] <atila> may be too easy that I forgot the solution
[10:59] <dave> i am charlie sheen
[10:59] <dave> no, not really.
[10:59] <trigg> eli: haha! not as evil as lilo
[10:59] <Pudland> ok, thx db
[11:00] <dbernar1> dave, that sounds like a comment by someone at work in the chatroom, when they forget to lock their station...
[11:00] <dbernar1> you know what I mean?
[11:00] <eli> yeah lilo is worse, remembers the nightmarish problems with SuSE
[11:00] <Sputn1k> How to fix http://www.inferno.tinklapiai.lt/Screenshot.png
[11:00] <Sputn1k> ?
[11:00] <trigg> eli: I reran grub> root and setup commands, I'll see if that helped.
[11:00] <kyncani> frank_: if your program is listening, you can use lsof -i
[11:00] <trigg> exit
[11:00] <Sputn1k> i got it when i reconfigure xorg.conf
[11:00] <fjleon> hey guys, i am having trouble writting accents on openoffice on my spanish keyboard
[11:00] <dave> dbernar1: heh
[11:00] <fjleon> i can type them well in konqueror
[11:01] <fjleon> but i cant do it on openoffice or in the terminal
[11:01] <dave> so, i'm supposed to uncomment these lines for repositories.. and then.. ?
[11:01] <eli> ok, trigg tell me how it works out
[11:01] <eli> oh, hes gone
[11:01] <atila> Sputnik : Latvia ?
[11:01] <dave> how does apt-get know where to look for packages?
[11:01] <dbernar1> sudo aptitude update
[11:01] <Sputn1k> atila Lithuania
[11:01] <dbernar1> dont use apt-get
[11:02] <atila> Sputnik : my mistake :-)
[11:02] <tritium> dave, from the settings in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:02] <HappyFool> dave: /etc/apt/sources.list tells it where
[11:02] <Sionide> dave, /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:02] <ateves> how can i add a command for an application to autostart?btw: what exactly IS autostart in linux?
[11:02] <Sputn1k> :)
[11:02] <ikmo> Does anyone know of a download manager for *nix please?
[11:02] <dave> ok, and if i understand correctly, i'm supposed to uncomment the first two lines?
[11:02] <Sputn1k> Who told my that i should reconfigure xorg.conf?
[11:02] <dbernar1> ikmo, asked synaptic?
[11:02] <frank_> ikmo d4x is one
[11:02] <eli> ateves you want to startup a program while gdm boots up?
[11:02] <ateves> eli: yes
[11:02] <Sionide> dave, http://ubuntuguide.org look for extra repositories on that
[11:02] <ikmo> dbernarl, I havent no ;) I'll check it
[11:02] <eli> go to system
[11:02] <ateves> yes
[11:02] <frank_> ikmo or there is a firefox extension which is pretty good
[11:03] <ikmo> frank_ , many thanks I'll check that too
[11:03] <dbernar1> im on debian right now, and the gnome on x is sooo buggy, I think, or my install was shitty...
[11:03] <HappyFool> good night
[11:03] <eli> preferences
[11:03] <ikmo> frank_ what's it called?
[11:03] <eli> sessions
[11:03] <dave> i don't have a web browser yet.
[11:03] <eli> third tab on right
[11:03] <tritium> dave, the ubuntuguide is not the best to follow.
[11:03] <weiers> Hi... could I ask some advice. I just downloaded the latest OOO2 Beta files because I find that the ones in Synaptic repositories are seriously broken. I need to now unzip and "alien" them into debs before I install. Please advise which would be the best directory to create. Do I unzip them into /home folder or into one of the /usr directories or where?
[11:03] <ateves> eli: aaaaah!
[11:03] <eli> startup programs
[11:03] <ateves> eli: thx
[11:03] <dave> tritium: so i hear
[11:03] <eli> :)
[11:03] <dbernar1> ikmo, you want a real one? check synaptic...
[11:03] <ateves> eli: so easy :)
[11:03] <frank_> ikmo: I don't rememeber ;-)
[11:03] <eli> yes yes, i had the same realization
[11:03] <ateves> hehe
[11:03] <dave> tritium: i can start doing stuff for myself as soon as i get a web browswer
[11:04] <tritium> dave, not a problem at all
[11:04] <_mike> weiesrs, if you have broken packages do apt-get install -f <package>
[11:04] <dbernar1> home is as good as anywhere...
[11:04] <Flynn_> Hi, is it advisible to download firefox from mozilla.org instead of installing it from the repositories?
[11:04] <dave> tritium: i would install a web browser but i do not know how to make apt-get ..go
[11:04] <crimsun> Flynn_, no it's not advisable to do that
[11:04] <tritium> dave, need help configuring apt?
[11:04] <dbernar1> dave, sudo aptitude update
[11:04] <dbernar1> uncomment main
[11:04] <dave> dbernar1: will do
[11:04] <ikmo> dbernarl, how do you mean "a real one" ?
[11:04] <dbernar1> comment out the cd.
[11:04] <eli> Flynn why do you need the newer version: you can get up to 1.0.4 on the backports
[11:04] <dave> oh ok
[11:04] <dave> it did a bunch of stuff
[11:04] <dbernar1> after, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop is it?
[11:05] <dave> is aptitude an apt-get replacement?
[11:05] <_mike> anyone here experienced in installing custom kernels? im editing my grub config file now but i have a quick question
[11:05] <dbernar1> just a user front end.
[11:05] <tritium> dave, ppoe is in universe, so you'll need to uncomment those lines too
[11:05] <MarcC> do you guys have traceroute on your system?
[11:05] <dbernar1> dave, I dont know much, I just use it...
[11:05] <tritium> _mike, if you use kernel-package to build your custom kernels, it takes care of grub for you
[11:05] <eli> anyone know if breezy is stable yet?
[11:05] <dbernar1>  /topic...
[11:05] <weiers> _mike ... I don't think there is something wrong with the OOO2 in the repositories except that it acts very strangely (shuts down when I print, one moment it starts with a neat user interface, the next time it is some ancient monotype font etc.) I've been advised on the OOO mailing list that I should try to install a later version of the package I think it is 1.9.88
[11:05] <dbernar1> breezy is stable on 5/10
[11:06] <dave> what is the difference between universe and the "fetch updated software from the network"
[11:06] <tritium> dave, yes, aptitude is great, imho
[11:06] <ikmo> frank_ thanks, d4x looks good, downloading now :) the Ubuntu64 ISO in fact :P
[11:06] <dave> is universe like, unstables?
[11:06] <frank_> ikmo great!
[11:06] <Flynn_> Thanks, crimsun. Do you suggest upgrading firefox by just 'apt-get install mozilla-firefox' in the shell?
[11:06] <eli> thanks dbernarl
[11:06] <dbernar1> @tritium-imho...
[11:06] <dbernar1> bah
[11:06] <dbernar1> nice.
[11:06] <zerboxx> I find totem (default video player) is out of sync, any help on fixing this, or should I just get xine?
[11:06] <MarcC> is traceroute working for anybody?
[11:06] <crimsun> Flynn_, it's already installed if you installed Ubuntu.
[11:06] <tritium> dbernar1, ?
[11:07] <ikmo> frank_ how are you, anyway? :)
[11:07] <crimsun> Flynn_, if you installed Kubuntu, then yes, you will need to use aptitude/apt-get/dselect/Synaptic/Kynaptic to install it.
[11:07] <eli> what 5/10 in eurpean style or american? october 5th or may 10th?
[11:07] <confrey> hi everybody
[11:07] <eli> october yes?
[11:07] <crimsun> eli, October of this year (2005)
[11:07] <Flynn_> Right, but it isn't the latest version.. 1.02 and I can't install any of the extensions.
[11:07] <tritium> !firefox
[11:07] <din> may 10
[11:08] <Sionide> !info mozilla-firefox
[11:08] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 8581 kB, Installed size: 24100 kB
[11:08] <frank_> ikmo: good... do I know you?
[11:08] <weiers> dbernar1:   I take it then that the package will integrate properly with the rest of the environment if I install it from /home. (I once did it with thunderbird in Mandrake 10.1, and I could never get thunderbird to open links to webpages etc.)
[11:08] <eli> Flynn_ get the backports for your repository list and then do apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:08] <eli> i have 1.0.4 firefox
[11:08] <dave> i've decided i am too lazy to do this.
[11:08] <Sionide> tritium, you after that?
[11:08] <dave> i will do a default install. brb.
[11:08] <tritium> Sionide, no, not that.
[11:08] <Kyral> Flynn_, its a bug
[11:08] <ikmo> frank_ no.. just sparking up conversation :) haven't been in here a while, wanted to make a friend, how sad lol
[11:09] <dbernar1> weiers, I think I spoke to someone on this channel, and we figured that exact thing with thunderbird.
[11:09] <dups> has anyone seen firefox crash after installing the libflash-mozilla plugin
[11:09] <dbernar1> out
[11:09] <TerminX> din: may 10?  more like the 10th month of the year 2005
[11:09] <dbernar1> ikmo, yes, pretty sad.
[11:09] <eli> dups i saw that happen with w32codecs
[11:09] <din> TerminX, ummm 5/10/2005 != october 5th
[11:10] <Flynn_> alright, eli. thanks, will do.
[11:10] <ikmo> dbernarl, no one asked you :P j/k
[11:10] <concept10> are the new mozilla updates in the repos (FF and TB)?
[11:10] <dups> eli: yeah it's weird I just tried to install it, no problem of course with apt-get but now if I go to a page that plays flash it crashes
[11:10] <TerminX> din: he's referring to breezy release
[11:10] <dbernar1> mouse scroll button should be integrated with the console to scroll...good idea, eh?
[11:10] <eli> dups did you follow the !codecs link for flash?
[11:10] <weiers> dbernar1, interesting. I was really frustrated, and that is why I actually switched to ubuntu. (Strange reason!)... I am so happy with Ubuntu, it is just that I want to work with a newer OOO than the 1.1.3 that is provided in the repositories. The 1.9.113 that is in the repository is just very unstable.
[11:10] <tritium> Sionide, he used to repy about the security fixes in 1.0.4 being backported into 1.0.2, and how to configure the vendor sub...
[11:10] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how does 3ddesktop work??
[11:10] <dbernar1> din.......
[11:11] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how can i see its effect?
[11:11] <TerminX> aka Ubuntu 5.10 (duh) which is scheduled for.. get this.. October 2005 (duh)
[11:11] <eli> 3ddesktop works great
[11:11] <Sionide> LuNaTiK^GuY, got it installed? go to a terminal and type "3ddesk"
[11:11] <dbernar1> you turn it on, and it works perfect.
[11:11] <concept10> dbernar1, it is, you mean the terminal?
[11:11] <dups> eli, no
[11:11] <dups> eli: and I'm unfamiliar about what you're talking about
[11:11] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ohh i was trying "3ddesktop" :)
[11:11] <eli> dups folllow the ubotu link
[11:11] <eli> !codecs
[11:11] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:11] <dbernar1> TerminX: duh..
[11:11] <concept10> Does anyone know if the new Firfox and thunderbird releases are in the repos?
[11:11] <franck> hi all, i'm new here
[11:11] <LuNaTiK^GuY> holy cow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:11] <Flynn_> eli, are you sure it's 'apt-get dist-upgrade'? Hmm.. I'm not willing to go experimental, at least not at this stage.
[11:12] <LuNaTiK^GuY> this is cute!!!
[11:12] <eli> i have 3ddesktop on my computer and it works good
[11:12] <tritium> concept10, no, not yet
[11:12] <benplaut> hi frank
[11:12] <TerminX> dbernar1: he didn't seem to get it.
[11:12] <LuNaTiK^GuY> 3ddesktop works great!!
[11:12] <dbernar1> LuNaTiK^GuY: 3d<tab>
[11:12] <eli> i did, and i have no problems
[11:12] <dbernar1> ok, he got it after...
[11:12] <eli> i guess its the risk you want to take
[11:12] <franck> is there way to get packages from universe localized ?
[11:12] <concept10> Tip for you 3ddesk users: man 3ddesk and take a look at the different switches
[11:12] <eli> if you feel a bit suicidal you can always download breezy ;-)
[11:13] <to|m> Is there a way to install Linux Ubuntu from windows without a CD or CDRW ?
[11:13] <LinuxJones> franck, you want other Ubuntu machines to upgrade from a local repo on your own network ?
[11:13] <luminerd> Hello, what makes Ubuntu special?  I am considering it for a 25+ system network
[11:13] <eli> concept10 : do you use 3ddesk --acquire=0 ?
[11:13] <benplaut> somebody explain to to|m netinstall
[11:13] <benplaut> i don't know much about it
[11:13] <qt2> is there an easy way to restore audio on an ubuntu system to its state from when it was first installed?
[11:13] <scifiordie> has anyone had trouble reinstalling windows after installing ubuntu?
[11:14] <concept10> eli, nope I was really talking about 3ddesk --mode=priceisright
[11:14] <franck> no, I want my software to speack french
[11:14] <to|m> benplaut: have just the pc here
[11:14] <^thehatsrule^> scifiordie: no, thats the easiest
[11:14] <eli> i use that too
[11:14] <to|m> benplaut: no network:(
[11:14] <eli> u have gdesklets startbars for 3ddesk - works like a charm
[11:14] <frank_> franck: don't know... maybe they try to follow your localisation, if they can. J'utilise juste l'anglais.
[11:14] <LinuxJones> franck, do you have the French language support installed ?
[11:15] <ioboss> what means "Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library"? how i can do to support them?
[11:15] <scifiordie> thehatsrule :   i have tried every variation i can think of and no good
[11:15] <concept10> I dont use it anymore, the daemon causes cpu hits
[11:15] <franck> Yes, I have french language installed. Works great for main, but universe package are in english
[11:15] <eli> luminerd: i would like to help you, but i dont know much about IT work and how it does on a 25+ system
[11:15] <luminerd> eli, ok, thanks
[11:15] <eli> 3ddesk? or gdeklets concept10 ?
[11:16] <concept10> 3ddesk
[11:16] <luminerd> Anyone else know if Ubuntu would be good for such a setup?
[11:16] <eli> luminerd: i do know that is very stable and doing updates is very easy on the systems
[11:16] <LuNaTiK^GuY> any cool stuff i can install in gnome to make it more Mac OS like?
[11:16] <eli> i stopeed the cpu spikes with 3ddesk
[11:16] <eli> works good now
[11:16] <concept10> eli, it takes constant screenshots
[11:17] <eli> thats why i do - > 3ddesk --acquire=0
[11:17] <errorlevel> Is there an ubuntu install CD that will download packages online like the Debian net install CD?
[11:17] <eli> only takes screenshots when transitioning from one page to another
[11:18] <eli> errorlevel, there is but i dont know much about it. check out the wiki site on ubuntu for it
[11:18] <Kyral> oooo
[11:18] <LuNaTiK^GuY> congrats to whoever is into this ubuntu project
[11:18] <franck> Packages like wxvlc, multisync, gtk-gnutella are not localized...
[11:18] <LuNaTiK^GuY> its awesome
[11:18] <eli> Luna - install gdesklets
[11:18] <tubix> hi, i have some problems with the sound on ubuntu, the sound works but not on any game, or any music player. Any idea please ?
[11:18] <franck> They are on Sid ...
[11:18] <eli> dont install gdkeskelts - data though
[11:19] <eli> get the stuff for it off the gnome gdesklets site
[11:19] <eli> tubix whats the problem?
[11:19] <ioboss> guy.. :(
[11:19] <errorlevel> eli: I'm looking through the wiki but I only see something called "NetbootInstallHowto" which isn't what I want.  I can boot just fine from my CD-ROM drive.
[11:19] <ioboss> what means "Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library"? how i can do to support them?
[11:19] <luminerd> Is ubuntu user friendly enough to be no-terminal-needed?  there will be many newbies working on these systems, people who've used windows forever...will they be able to accomplish the task of surfing the web and editing word documents/excel spreadsheets?
[11:20] <root__> I'm having a little trouble with library paths on Ubuntu 64. When trying to run ATI:s control panel application I get told that libexpat.so.0 is not found, but it resides in /usr/lib and is found by ldconfig....how to make it understand the lib is there??
[11:20] <eli> errorlevel - then im clueless sorry i could help =S
[11:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> luminerd, yes ;)
[11:20] <eli> could not
[11:20] <tubix> eli, my sound card doesnt works on any games eor music players, but i can hear the sound on ubuntu (like the startup sound)
[11:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i came from windows....tried a gizillion distros...ubuntu/kubuntu are perfect
[11:20] <eli> !alta
[11:20] <ubotu> Wish i knew, eli
[11:20] <eli> !sounds
[11:20] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, eli
[11:20] <luminerd> LuNaTiK^GuY, ok, so Fedora and Ubuntu are about level right now in my eyes...can someone tell me why Ubuntu is better than Fedora specifically?
[11:21] <eli> fedora is brutal in installation files vs. ubuntu
[11:21] <eli> synaptic is much more advanced
[11:21] <LuNaTiK^GuY> luminerd, i never liked fedora....its a bit sluggish...to bloated...full of stuff that i dont need
[11:21] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and synaptic is AWESOME
[11:21] <eli> tubix you may have a problem with the sound driver called ESD
[11:21] <eli> check out on the wiki site about ALTA and ESD
[11:22] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but
[11:22] <luminerd> LuNaTiK^GuY, what is synaptic?
[11:22] <LuNaTiK^GuY> fedora has a better setup
[11:22] <tubix> eli, ok thx
[11:22] <LuNaTiK^GuY> anaconda installer should be part of the next ubuntu
[11:22] <tritium> luminerd, it's a front-end to apt, the package tool used in debian/ubuntu
[11:22] <eli> luminerd : also ubuntu recognizes hardware waaaaaay better than fedora
[11:22] <LuNaTiK^GuY> luminerd, Syntaptic is similar to Add/Remove programs in windows
[11:22] <eli> and you have better group of helpful peole like here in the irc chat and ubuntuforums
[11:23] <LuNaTiK^GuY> only WAY better
[11:23] <eli> lots of documenations
[11:23] <luminerd> I see
[11:23] <eli> tubix - happy to help :)
[11:23] <luminerd> Well, Fedora's yet to provide any reason why it's better
[11:23] <LuNaTiK^GuY> they said mandrake/mandriva was easy....i tried it...it was semi-ok....but Ubuntu is just enjoyable!!!
[11:23] <qt2> is there an easy way to restore audio on an ubuntu system to its state from when it was first installed?
[11:23] <ateves> eli: still there?
[11:24] <eli> luminerd i went originally with fedora, but i had a lot of problems with it (software and hardware on laptop) and then to ubuntu
[11:24] <eli> never left since
[11:24] <eli> ateves
[11:24] <eli> yep
[11:24] <ateves> :)
[11:24] <eli> still here
[11:24] <eli> triggy ?
[11:24] <ateves> eli: does that autostart stuff work with scripts, too?
[11:24] <frank_> qt2 I don't know
[11:24] <Kyral> ehh
[11:24] <luminerd> Well, I'll be back later, thanks for the help
[11:25] <eli> ateves, i would imagine it could if you have your scripts correctly loaded
[11:25] <Kyral> is the g++-4.0 package stable?
[11:25] <tritium> qt2, what exactly changed?  How was it modified?
[11:25] <eli> no problem luminerd
[11:25] <eli> good luck
[11:25] <LuNaTiK^GuY> luminerd, windows may still seem simpler...if u just try linux for 2 hours and leave it there......but with time....i got to love ubuntu.....i dont use it full-time...but i'm aiming at that...and keep windows for games....until Longhorn comes...i'll see from there
[11:26] <eli> LuNa you could use cedega for games
[11:26] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i just prefer Windows's performance
[11:26] <tritium> Kyral, see /topic re: breezy
[11:26] <eli> im not a gamer myself but i do know that cedega is pretty good
[11:26] <Kyral> I'm not USING Breezy
[11:27] <Kyral> I'm just building the FireFox 1.0.5 from the breezy Source repos and it needs GCC4
[11:27] <tritium> well, hoary doesn't have g++-4.0
[11:27] <Kyral> which are all in Backports....so I think its safe
[11:27] <dave> hello folks
[11:27] <dave> i am ubuntu!
[11:27] <eli> cool :)
[11:27] <eli> on gnome now?
[11:27] <dave> if this is really a "for everyone" distribution, i think the installation should be a little more simplified.
[11:27] <Kyral> Here goes!
[11:28] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ubuntu should introduce a totlally i686 compiled version...like Yoper
[11:28] <eli> dave : i agree on that. they are working on that for the next release in breezy
[11:28] <Kyral> wait, GCC4 won't replace whatever GCC I have now, right?
[11:28] <LuNaTiK^GuY> it would then be a 100% winer
[11:28] <ioboss> how i can do a script? i dont find a wiki.. :(
[11:28] <eli> Kyral ... no clue :S
[11:28] <Kyral> oh well
[11:28] <benplaut> LuNaTiK: Winner ;)
[11:28] <benplaut> yes, it would be
[11:28] <benplaut> i would love that
[11:28] <Kyral> this is why I put my /home on a separate partition
[11:28] <eli> ioboss did you look on ubuntuforums?
[11:29] <ioboss> i go.. :D
[11:29] <dave> is there some sort of global config for gnome?
[11:29] <LuNaTiK^GuY> benplaut, yes...its the only thing to reach now.....a more snappy distro
[11:29] <eli> dave : what do you want to change?
[11:29] <yper> good evning
[11:29] <dave> this ridiculous menu system
[11:29] <eli> shortcuts on the keys and such?
[11:29] <eli> i know dave, i changed that too
[11:29] <dave> and the taskbar-like thing
[11:30] <MrGardenHoseMan> what's the best way to copy data over wrom a windows's drive
[11:30] <MrGardenHoseMan> from*
[11:30] <dave> MrGardenHoseMan: i would use the copy command
[11:30] <ioboss> there isn't nothing..
[11:30] <Kyral> mount the drive
[11:30] <MrGardenHoseMan> lol
[11:30] <ioboss> :
[11:30] <dave> seriously though, mount the drive and copy it
[11:30] <dbernar1> I know what the guy on ubuntuguide can add...how to remove backports from your repos...
[11:30] <ioboss> but i can do a file bat as in win?
[11:30] <dave> i would just like to say, you guys are very helpful
[11:30] <Kyral> why remove Backports?
[11:30] <dave> #debian threw me out because i was an idiot
[11:30] <dave> and #gentoo are elitists who think they know the answer when they dont
[11:31] <Xyc0> hello everyone
[11:31] <tritium> Kyral, because they're unofficial, and make upgrading to new releases difficult
[11:31] <Xyc0> wow 4 ops
[11:31] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i have a stupid question thats worth having an answer ;)
[11:31] <eli> shoot
[11:31] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Are Ubuntu guys in war with Kubuntu ones?
[11:31] <Kyral> tritium: I've never had problems with them :D
[11:31] <eli> nope
[11:32] <eli> not me
[11:32] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: no
[11:32] <eli> im gnome, but i like kde too
[11:32] <yper> Hi there i need some help, On my laptop currently running ubuntu hoary I've lost the |<> key functionality in X. I have PC105 as xkbd in xorg.conf. Any ideas?
[11:32] <Kyral> Just the ages old KDE vs. GNOME war
[11:32] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the same distro
[11:32] <eli> why battle on it? why not merge it?
[11:32] <Xyc0> eli: so we have choise
[11:32] <dave> Xyc0: a minute ago i was told they were the same thing
[11:32] <dave> sorry, i was told they were two dists
[11:33] <Kyral> Ubuntu uses GNOME as default
[11:33] <MrGardenHoseMan> well here's another fine question for you all, how do i mount a drive that's not even there :x
[11:33] <LuNaTiK^GuY> they are the same project
[11:33] <Xyc0> Linux is all about choice
[11:33] <dave> i need less mouse sensitivity
[11:33] <Kyral> Kubuntu uses KDE as default
[11:33] <LuNaTiK^GuY> with preferences on the desktpo manager
[11:33] <Kyral> other than that, samething
[11:33] <Xyc0> MrGardenHoseMan: your going to have to give a bit more info then that
[11:33] <yper> no brilliant ideas??
[11:33] <eli> go to system > preferences > look for hte mouse option
[11:33] <Super_BQ> hi
[11:33] <MrGardenHoseMan> well
[11:33] <Kyral> hell you can install KDE on a Ubuntu install and vice versa
[11:33] <MrGardenHoseMan> i've got xp installed on the otehr drive
[11:33] <Xyc0> You can install KDE on ubuntu, its really easy
[11:34] <MrGardenHoseMan> when i was isntaling ubuntu
[11:34] <eli> oh its ntfs
[11:34] <MrGardenHoseMan> i instaled grub
[11:34] <Kyral> MrGardenHoseMan, you have to find out what its /dev entry is
[11:34] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ok another fun question
[11:34] <MrGardenHoseMan> it gives an option to boot to xp
[11:34] <Kyral> then make a mountpoint
[11:34] <MrGardenHoseMan> but it doesn't work
[11:34] <eli> MrGardenHoseMan : do you have the winmac sh file?
[11:34] <LuNaTiK^GuY> when will linux beat M$ on the desktop?
[11:34] <MrGardenHoseMan> what i'd like to do is mount that drive
[11:34] <eli> automatically mounts drives
[11:34] <MrGardenHoseMan> and copy over all the files
[11:34] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: It does already
[11:34] <LuNaTiK^GuY> LOL
[11:34] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i meant..in a global manner
[11:34] <dave> maybe you guys can answer this one
[11:34] <Kyral> We REALLY need an easy mountpoint maker/manager
[11:34] <Xyc0> MrGardenHoseMan: So tell me what you are really trying to do
[11:35] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY:  It dowa
[11:35] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: Does*
[11:35] <MrGardenHoseMan> i have no idea lol
[11:35] <eli> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab for MrGardenHoseMan
[11:35] <Super_BQ> can someone show me a link where I can make Ubunto as a stand alone router ?
[11:35] <MrGardenHoseMan> well
[11:35] <MrGardenHoseMan> for one
[11:35] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: go to europe, see how many people use M$
[11:35] <ilba7r> any one know what is the default font implemented in ubuntu to be used by gnome
[11:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i am European
[11:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> :)
[11:35] <tombs> hi ppl
[11:35] <MrGardenHoseMan> how do i make the drive show up next to all the other drives
[11:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> a lot still use M$
[11:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> :(
[11:35] <Proteque_> LuNaTiK^GuY: not here.
[11:35] <eli> MrGardenHoseMan, the winmic_fstab does that
[11:35] <Xyc0> MrGardenHoseMan: WinXP usues NTFS format
[11:36] <frank_> Germany is the country I saw with the most linux
[11:36] <MrGardenHoseMan> yeah
[11:36] <MrGardenHoseMan> i heard you can still read from it
[11:36] <Proteque_> LuNaTiK^GuY: I work for a "county" in norway. we hardly use windows.
[11:36] <dave> of course.
[11:36] <Xyc0> MrGardenHoseMan: Even if you mount it, you cannot write to it yet, it is Read Only
[11:36] <eli> you can read it
[11:36] <eli> but you cant write on it
[11:36] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Industry uses Linux a lot
[11:36] <MrGardenHoseMan> that's fine with me, all i need to do is copy the files over
[11:36] <MrGardenHoseMan> won't be doing any writting
[11:36] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but the avergae Joe still uses Windows for everything
[11:36] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: England uses linux ins schools now
[11:37] <eli> most scientific institutes as well
[11:37] <dave> this is going to be difficult to figure out
[11:37] <Kyral> Hooray! My current GCC wasn't overwritten!
[11:37] <LuNaTiK^GuY> our university (malta) is still biased with Windows
[11:37] <Xyc0> MrGardenHoseMan: Then youll want to google "mounting NTFS"
[11:37] <LuNaTiK^GuY> although we have a lot of linux practice
[11:37] <ioboss> eli... can you help me?
[11:37] <MrGardenHoseMan> hmm good idea
[11:37] <eli> ioboss whats up?
[11:38] <Xyc0> MrGardenHoseMan: I can help you once you've read more into iy
[11:38] <eli> i can always try :)
[11:38] <Xyc0> it*
[11:38] <yper> I guess my question won't be answered here =(
[11:38] <dave> wow
[11:38] <LuNaTiK^GuY> so wot about the 92% dominance M$ has?
[11:38] <eli> the grand solution people to mounting drives is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[11:38] <LuNaTiK^GuY> is it a lie?
[11:38] <dave> gnome is unfortunate
[11:38] <tritium> yper, what was your question?
[11:38] <dave> i want a window list on the right side
[11:38] <dave> it's not fair
[11:38] <ioboss> eli i can't do script.. :
[11:38] <Kyral> FF 1.0.5 compiling
[11:39] <eli> !script
[11:39] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, eli
[11:39] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: show me where it says that
[11:39] <yper> tritium: I seem to have lost my "<>|"-key in x
[11:39] <eli> hmm
[11:39] <tritium> dave, the window list can be moved
[11:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> stuff like "The Inquirer"
[11:39] <dave> right, but the panel won't go more than 120px
[11:39] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: Show me the URL
[11:39] <tritium> yper, oh, that's a tough one ;)
[11:39] <dave> i think i need another window manager
[11:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i dont have the url...i read it a long time ago
[11:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> for example...when MAC shifted to x86....
[11:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> there was an article
[11:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> that said
[11:40] <ioboss> !script
[11:40] <ubotu> ioboss: No idea
[11:40] <ioboss> ?
[11:40] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Windows was first...Linux second...and Mac trailing behind
[11:40] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: I'm just saying, it's one thing to say statistics, its quite another to prove it.
[11:40] <ioboss> !script
[11:40] <yper> tritium: yup, been struggling with that for a while ;), the issue is only on my laptop that uses XFCE..
[11:40] <eli> ioboss what kind of script do you want to write?
[11:41] <eli> im not very familiar with normal scripts
[11:41] <eli> i write some stuff for a scientific program and thats about it
[11:41] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Xyc0, but there is this thing.....that ppl cant stand about linux in general..."Why does my hardware work at once with windows...and y do i get probs with any linux distro?
[11:41] <eli> ubuntu works good
[11:41] <eli> no hardware probs
[11:41] <lcharly_TheOne> how can i add font types .tff???
[11:42] <dave> the main issue i have with migration is the programs.
[11:42] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i still didnt get my 5.1 channels to work
[11:42] <eli> for sound?
[11:42] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: Well sure, M$ is easy at first. But so is sticking your hand in a wood chipper.
[11:42] <LuNaTiK^GuY> the only issue till now
[11:42] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yes
[11:42] <yper> tritium: the reason for XFCE is that it is quite an old and I have to spare the RAM =)
[11:42] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i only get 2 channels working
[11:42] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: I can help you with that
[11:42] <eli> Xyco : that is a great statement
[11:42] <tritium> yper, oh, okay
[11:42] <eli> i will remember that one
[11:42] <LuNaTiK^GuY> 10q Xyc0
[11:42] <frank_> LuNaTiK^GuY: yeah you have to buy hardware that you know is supported
[11:43] <LuNaTiK^GuY> frank_, u can't tell ppl to buy stuff coz Linux says so....it is Linux that must allow it (in the future)
[11:43] <eli> adios people
[11:43] <Xyc0> frank_: Nah, you just have to be willing to learn
[11:43] <dave> thats true
[11:43] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Xyc0, how can i  get 5.1 to work?
[11:43] <dave> i dont want to be limited to nvidia :)
[11:43] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: what kind of sound card?
[11:44] <frank_> LuNaTiK^GuY: well when some hardware vendors support linux and some don't the choice is clear
[11:44] <Xyc0> ATI works great
[11:44] <LuNaTiK^GuY> its an onborad sound card
[11:44] <LuNaTiK^GuY> on an ASUS P4P800 mobo
[11:44] <ioboss> eli thnx.. i do.. i'm newbie, sprry
[11:44] <ioboss> sorry
[11:45] <Draga> Hmm.. Could someone help me? I tried Ubuntu 5.1 live-cd and it boots but when it start loading OS it just went black... Nothing happens after that
[11:45] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: What sound driver do you use?
[11:45] <XhyldazhK> Hi all!
[11:45] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ALSA
[11:45] <yper> tritium: no ideas?
[11:46] <XhyldazhK> How do I find all deb packages such that no other package depends on them?
[11:46] <tritium> yper, no, I'm sorry
[11:46] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: in terminal "alsamixer"
[11:46] <Draga> and 64bit live-image. I use Hp pavilion zv6028ea computer (laptop) AMD 64bit 3200, Ati radeon xpress200m...
[11:46] <yper> tritium: ok thanks anyway for the shown interest =)
[11:46] <LuNaTiK^GuY> done
[11:47] <Draga> Does someone know what is the problem?
[11:47] <LuNaTiK^GuY> card Intel ICH5
[11:47] <LuNaTiK^GuY> chip ANALOG DEVICES AD1985
[11:47] <Xyc0> then you want to un mute Analog/Digital
[11:47] <tritium> yper, :)
[11:47] <Draga> Could someone help me... Linux noob :>
[11:48] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Xyc0, where is that?
[11:48] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: keep moving to the right
[11:48] <dave> how do you get a windowlist out of a gnome panel?!
[11:48] <dave> there we are. the surface area is like one pixel.
[11:48] <dave> i am liking this ubuntu stuff so far.
[11:49] <abarbaccia> hey - if ubuntu mounted a usb device, what would the /dev/ listing be under?
[11:49] <dave> sda
[11:49] <dave> ?
[11:49] <dave> and if it's already mounted, can't you just type mount to list it?
[11:49] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Xyc0, i dont have an Analog/Digital entry
[11:49] <Toba>  /dev/sda
[11:49] <Draga> Could someone help me
[11:49] <Toba> mine is there
[11:49] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but i do have a lot of Spread front to centre lfe etc etc
[11:49] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wots that?
[11:49] <Toba> Draga: what do you nead help WITH?
[11:49] <snackalot> draga ill try
[11:49] <abarbaccia> thanks dave and Toba
[11:49] <Toba> ym
[11:50] <dave> gnome has focus problems in the menu.. can i fix these?
[11:50] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: Sorry, im not on my ALSA puter right now, so your going to have to look around and see what to unmute, you unmute by pressing M
[11:50] <LuNaTiK^GuY> thanks :)
[11:50] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'll try some combinations
[11:51] <Draga> Could someone help me? I tried Ubuntu 5.1 live-cd and it boots but when it start loading OS it just went black... Nothing happens after that and 64bit live-image. I use Hp pavilion zv6028ea computer (laptop) AMD 64bit 3200, Ati radeon xpress200m...
[11:52] <Gourami> question: can a daily cron job be set to mail you a completion status ?
[11:52] <Xyc0> Draga: What ATI are you using?
[11:52] <Draga> Xyc0 it said ATI radeon xpress 200mobility :)
[11:53] <Draga> Doesnt support yet?
[11:53] <Xyc0> No, i just didnt know what M stood for
[11:53] <Draga> Ah..
[11:53] <Xyc0> Draga: But that could be the case, ATI doesnt have the best linux drivers
[11:54] <abarbaccia> anybody use a rio carbon with ubuntu?
[11:54] <Xyc0> Draga: did you try installing Ubuntu?
[11:54] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Linux should also try to speed up bootup speeds......
[11:54] <LuNaTiK^GuY> on high end systems...M$ has the edge
[11:54] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: Why, its 2x faster then M$
[11:54] <Draga> Xyc0: I'm trying the live-64bit because i want to know if it works
[11:55] <kutucape> gnome is slow on my PIII 1 GHz
[11:55] <LuNaTiK^GuY> XP takes less time to boot for me
[11:55] <LuNaTiK^GuY> on my P4 3.00 Ghz
[11:55] <funkyHat> LuNaTiK^GuY, there are other reasons why linux takes longer than windows to boot
[11:55] <LuNaTiK^GuY> funkyhat, can they be resolved?
[11:55] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: are you talking about Linux, or Gnome?
[11:55] <Gourami> question: can a daily cron job be set to mail you a completion status ?
[11:55] <woodwizzle> is there a good gui program I can use to transcode/burn DVDs?
[11:56] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Windows comes with a GUI
[11:56] <LuNaTiK^GuY> so i include gnome yes
[11:56] <Draga> Damn... It just starts loading the OS but downloading sometime and here comes the blackout
[11:56] <funkyHat> same as there are reasons for why linux goes down at least 10x as fast
[11:56] <funkyHat> :)
[11:56] <LuNaTiK^GuY> that is true funkyhat ;)
[11:56] <frank_> woodwizzle: the easiest way I found was to use dvd shrink with wine
[11:56] <dave> LOL
[11:56] <Draga> So no one knows what's wrong?
[11:56] <dave> that's embarrassing
[11:56] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but....
[11:57] <LuNaTiK^GuY> if Ubuntu followed Yoper's example
[11:57] <LuNaTiK^GuY> bootup speeds are awesome on that O/S
[11:57] <woodwizzle> frank: Well, I don't want to copy DVDs, I'm talking about burning files that I've downloaded from online. Stuff like music videos and live bootlegs, not whole DVDs
[11:57] <Proteque_> anyone know if it possible to setup the raid on old ibm servers when I miss the serverguide cd?
[11:58] <din> bbl time to go home
[11:58] <Draga> There isn't anyone that could help me?
[11:58] <ColonelKernel> im trying to make sure 1024x768 only runs @ 100hz - ive used gtf to generate a modeline but it doesnt seem to be working. I have disabled dpms and turned on IgnoreEDID on the nvidia driver. I beg for help
[11:58] <snackalot> what a shame
[11:59] <Xyc0> LuNaTiK^GuY: What are you trying to get at?  Do you have an actual point, or are you just trolling?
[11:59] <Draga> Could someone help on my problem... I need help for god sake :>
[11:59] <LuNaTiK^GuY> no.....i'm just saying that after trying several distros..............Ubuntu is awesome
[11:59] <desrt> ColonelKernel; the X server will automatically select the highest possible refresh rate for each mode from the hsync/vsync params you supply
[11:59] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and some speed could make it even more awesome