[01:13] <Riddell> uniq: you might be interesting in the new kubuntu-default-settings I uploaded today
[02:26] <seth_k> Riddell, are any of these lintian errors non-kosher? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/317477
[02:27] <Riddell> I love how we have a kubuntu pastebin
[02:27] <Riddell> seth_k: first and last can be ignored
[02:27] <Riddell> seth_k: actually there shouldn't be a .desktop file in usr/share/applnk/Utilities/kmobiletools.desktop
[02:27] <Riddell> seth_k: is there a file in /usr/share/applications?
[02:29] <Riddell> seth_k: do you have a postinst and postrm and do they call update-menus?
[02:31] <seth_k> Riddell, no file in /usr/share/applications
[02:31] <seth_k> shelldesktopdir   = $(kde_appsdir)/Utilities
[02:31] <seth_k> shelldesktop_DATA = kmobiletools.desktop
[02:32] <Riddell> seth_k: you'd be best to patch in the appropriate Categories= line and move the file to /usr/share/applications/kde/
[02:34] <seth_k> okay, Riddell. And I see no postinst or postrm at all, let alone ones that call update-menus
[02:35] <crimsun> is it using dh_desktop?
[02:36] <seth_k> that's not anywhere in rules, crimsun
[02:39] <seth_k> Riddell, the .desktop file is now patched... do I just change shelldesktopdir to /usr/share/applications/kde/ ?
[02:40] <crimsun> update-menus shouldn't need to be called if it uses the fd.o menu spec
[02:40] <seth_k> right crimsun, but I can't find where it calls it.
[02:41] <Riddell> seth_k: I would just add an install:: rule to debian/rules to mv it
[02:41] <Riddell> or just put it along with the install rule if not using cdbs
[02:42] <Riddell> 00:13 < Riddell> uniq: you might be interesting in the new kubuntu-default-settings I uploaded today
[02:52] <seth_k> okay Riddell, where do I want to stick that mv in debian/rules... I put it in the install rule, underneath the "make install" command, and my build bombed from not being able to find the file in /usr/share/applnk/Utilities/
[02:55] <Riddell> seth_k: you may then have to edit a .install file if it explicity mentions /usr/share/applnk/Utilities/
[02:55] <Riddell> seth_k: debuild -nc  if you don't know for not having to restart build from scratch
[02:57] <seth_k> no, my mv command is the one that's bombing, so I guess I didn't put it in the correct place, Riddell?
[03:00] <Riddell> seth_k: what's the command and what's the error?
[03:03] <seth_k> mv /usr/share/applnk/Utilities/kmobiletools.desktop /usr/share/applications/kde/, which yields the expected "cannot stat source..." etc., which is expected since the deb isn't installed yet. I think I just don't know the correct place to put that command in debian/rules.
[03:03] <seth_k> ah, I did find where postinst and postrm update-menus come in... dh_installmenu calls update-menus
[03:04] <Riddell> seth_k: add debian/kmobiletools to the front of those directories
[03:10] <seth_k> mv: cannot move `debian/kmobiletools/usr/share/applnk/Utilities/kmobiletools.desktop' to `debian/kmobiletools/usr/share/applications/kde/kmobiletools.desktop': No such file or directory
[03:10] <seth_k> same error, Riddell.
[03:10] <Riddell> seth_k: well is there such a file as debian/kmobiletools/usr/share/applnk/Utilities/?
[03:10] <Riddell> and such a directory as debian/kmobiletools/usr/share/applications/kde/?
[03:16] <seth_k> I apologize Riddell; I assumed that directory was part of debuild's magic. The only place a desktop entry is mentioned is in ./kmobiletools/kmobiletools/Makefile.in with the format I pasted above... the "shelldesktopdir". In the source package, the .desktop file is in ./kmobiletools/kmobiletools/kmobiletools.desktop
[03:17] <Riddell> seth_k: what does   find debian -name kmobiletools.desktop  give you?
[03:17] <seth_k> nothing
[03:18] <seth_k> (that's from the root of the source directory)
[03:18] <Riddell> must be in there somewhere, unless you've done a clean
[03:19] <seth_k> mm, I'm running everything through pbuilder, so it's cleaning each time. Let me pbuilder login and leave the thing uncleaned.
[03:19] <Riddell> aah
[03:19] <Riddell> I don't think pbuilder is the best environment for making a new package.  finding build-deps is what it's good at
[03:20] <seth_k> apologies there :P I'm used to making my patches, grabbing a deb and running
[03:20] <seth_k> yeah, I'll go ahead and grab the build-deps and use debuild
[03:29] <seth_k> jiminy... or not. kde-devel wants to remove kdm (and assorted other goodies), and if I reinstall kdm, it wants to uninstall 3/4 of KDE. Guess I'm waiting until later. Sorry for taking so much of your time, but thanks for the tips Riddell 
[03:30] <Riddell> seth_k: try a manual chroot
[03:30] <Riddell> http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/DebootstrapChroot
[03:54] <seth_k> thanks for the link Riddell, it's now downloading all the KDE devel stuff
[04:27] <seth_k> (mychroot)seth@erebus:~/ubuntu/breezy/kmobiletools/kmobiletools-0.4.3.1$ find debian -name kmobiletools.desktop
[04:27] <seth_k> debian/kmobiletools/usr/share/applnk/Utilities/kmobiletools.desktop
[04:27] <seth_k> right where I'm referencing it at, Riddell.
[04:30] <seth_k> oh, but there is no /usr/share/applications/kde/ directory...
[04:31] <seth_k> so change debian/dirs
[04:32] <seth_k> now i'm getting somewhere (and talking to myself at the same time)
[04:44] <seth_k> thanks for all the pointers, Riddell (when you see this)... it builds a treat now, and I know more about how packagebuilding works. Cheers
[02:58] <pef> hello !
[02:59] <Riddell> hi pef 
[02:59] <pef> Riddell: thanks for the kdepim build fix :)
[02:59] <\sh> Riddell: can u take care about openexr?
[03:02] <Riddell> pef: kdepim failed :(
[03:02] <Riddell> "configure: error: You need to have flex installed." huh?
[03:06] <Riddell> \sh: what's up with it?  pbuilder is working for me (after an update)
[03:29] <\sh> Riddell: try kdiff3 ,-)
[03:29] <\sh> or kover
[03:30] <\sh> but let me check after another update....last one is one hour ago
[03:31] <Riddell> kdiff3 installs for me
[03:31] <Riddell> kover needs a rebuild for c++ changes
[03:31] <Riddell> whatever kover is
[03:32] <Riddell> CD cover printing
[03:32] <Riddell> froud: seen the new kubuntu-default-settings?
[03:32] <\sh> Riddell: yeah
[03:33] <Riddell> \sh: feel free to rebuild kover :)
[03:33] <froud> Riddell: nope have not even got Kubuntu fixed yet :-( Have not had time to play. BTW is the nightly build installer working now. If so I will download and install.
[03:34] <Riddell> froud: the nightly CDs might just might be usable, I'll download and check
[03:35] <froud> Riddell:  pls. I don't want  to bust my 3GB cap just yet, there is to may days left in this month
[03:35] <froud> Riddell: if it works I will give 700 or so meg for download and updates
[03:35] <froud> :-)
[03:41] <JRe> Riddell: you have looked the patch from Mandrive gcc maintainer ?
[03:41] <Riddell> JRe: havn't looked at it very closely yet
[03:41] <Riddell> playing with gcc scares me
[03:41] <JRe> Riddell: same for me ;)
[03:42] <JRe> Riddell: but apparently with these patch no needs to patch fvisibility anymore ;) ;) ;)
[03:45] <\sh> Riddell: i have kover on my list yes ,-)
[03:49] <\sh> Riddell: but first i have to merge netapplet :(
[03:55] <Riddell> \sh: netapplet?
[03:56] <\sh> Riddell: yes..gnome applet, parts of it rewritten by thom...
[03:57] <Riddell> \sh: anything to do with KDE?
[04:00] <\sh> Riddell: check MOTUToMerge (the tinyurl story) it gives you all motu packages to Merge (MoM)
[04:00] <\sh> including a lot of kde stuff
[04:01] <\sh> and we should be finished by today :(
[05:24] <\sh> Riddell: what about kdebase?
[05:25] <Riddell> \sh: works for me
[05:27] <Riddell> \sh: I ment is netapplet anything to do with KDE?
[05:29] <\sh> Riddell: no...only merging
[05:30] <\sh> Riddell: but it has the same issues with libiw ,-)
[05:30] <\sh> so I used your http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/kubuntu_02_new_iwlib.diff in another way 
[05:31] <Riddell> \sh: cool :)
[05:31] <\sh> Riddell: but now I have a problem with ether_addr...
[05:31] <\sh> actually it doesn't find it in net/ethernet or in iwlib.h
[05:31] <Riddell> libiw is evil for API changes.  as bad as HAL
[05:32] <\sh> error: 'ether_addr' undeclared (first use in this function)
[05:32] <\sh> bah
[05:32] <\sh> it uses ether_addr from net/ethernet.h
[05:32] <\sh> so i included this file
[05:34] <\sh> strange
[05:40] <Riddell> \sh: what were you saying about kdebase?
[05:47] <\sh> kdm is removed because of xbase-clients
[05:47] <\sh> after the last dist-upgrade of breezy (on my system actually)
[05:47] <Riddell> ooh, evil
[05:48] <\sh> so...I think it needs some love..that's why I asked
[05:48] <\sh> thx u rock, really...
[06:26] <Riddell> hmm, imake broken
[06:37] <\sh> re
[06:45] <pef> Riddell: are you able to build the current svn kde ?
[06:45] <Riddell> pef: havn't tired, what's up?
[06:46] <pef> Riddell: errors with kdeutils, don't know if the problem comes from me :kmultiformlistboxentry.cpp:20:40: error: kmultiformlistboxentry.moc: No such file or directory
[06:46] <pef> many apps stops compiling with .moc file nonexistent
[06:54] <\sh> actually..kde stuff is compiling again
[06:55] <Riddell> In file included from /root/kdeutils/kcalc/knumber.cpp:25:
[06:55] <Riddell> /root/kdeutils/kcalc/knumber.h:23:17: error: gmp.h: No such file or directory
[06:55] <Riddell> pef: kdeutils wants something else installed for me, but it all seemed to be compiling
[06:55] <Riddell> kregexpeditor compiles fine
[06:56] <pef> Riddell: have you an idea about my .moc error ?
[06:56] <Riddell> pef: tried a fresh checkout?
[06:57] <pef> Riddell: a few minutes ago
[06:58] <pef> revision 437369
[07:15] <seth_k> btw Riddell, kmobiletools builds fine now, but the menu entry refuses to show. The .desktop file is in the right directory, and in it I have: Categories=Qt;KDE;Utility;
[11:13] <\sh> Riddell: nice icon for konqueror
[11:23] <\sh> Riddell: which admin dir can I use for 3.4.1 and gcc4?