[12:08] <chillywilly> now it looks like it is getting the wrong pid
[12:09] <chillywilly> yep, pid is one high that whan start-stop-daemon wrote to the file with --make-pidfile
[12:09] <chillywilly> what*
[12:10] <sistpoty> hm...
[12:10] <chillywilly> I think it does really weird shit like fork off 3 extra processes then die
[12:10] <chillywilly> s
[12:11] <chillywilly> it's possible to use it without a pid file right? it will do a killall type thing?
[12:11] <SloMo_> ok, last package for today... that ugly code has shocked me too much ;) other stuff will follow tomorrow :) gn8 all
[12:11] <ogra> night SloMo_, thanks for all the help
[12:12] <sistpoty> n8 SloMo_
[12:12] <rtcm> has anyone already tried to give some love to ghc6?
[12:12] <sistpoty> rtcm: siretart has
[12:12] <ogra> rtcm, many people
[12:12] <SloMo_> ogra: np :) it's really fun
[12:13] <ogra> SloMo_, and you really rock ;)
[12:18] <sistpoty> chillywilly: good try... i think --exec w.o. --make-pid should do the trick.
[12:18] <chillywilly> it works now
[12:18] <sistpoty> cool :)
[12:18] <chillywilly> I rftm :)
[12:19] <chillywilly> that always helps
[12:19] <sistpoty> hope i didn't give you too much wrong directions ;)
[12:19] <chillywilly> nah, it's all good
[12:19] <chillywilly> I think --make-pid is only useful it the process doesn't put itself into the background
[12:19] <chillywilly> then you gotta use --background too
[12:20] <sistpoty> yep, i assume that too
[12:20] <sistpoty> ok, i am off to bed ... gn8 all
[12:21] <chillywilly> anywho, looking at how a debian package is built I think the hardest part for me is the whole rules makefile thing because those macros look like black magic ;)
[12:21] <chillywilly> night
[12:21] <ogra> chillywilly, its only a makefile....
[12:21] <ogra> there are some good docs about makefiles online ;)
[12:22] <chillywilly> yea but the targets and how to stucture thing and what macros do what is what is not clear
[12:22] <chillywilly> the thing
[12:22] <chillywilly> target: dependcies
commands
[12:22] <chillywilly> simple
[12:23] <chillywilly> but I don't know what dh_XXX does or what to call to do what
[12:23] <ogra> man dh_XXX ;)
[12:23] <chillywilly> yea it will take some time to read through some docs
[12:23] <ogra> its very well documented
[12:24] <chillywilly> in the mean time I took the debian dir from the other version and hacked it
[12:24] <chillywilly> then built a deb for me cvs version
[12:24] <chillywilly> my*
[12:24] <ogra> what does lintian think about it ?
[12:24] <chillywilly> it complains about the description
[12:24] <chillywilly> it's defnitely not perfect but I did get a smartd that will work with my RAID card
[12:24] <chillywilly> :)
[12:25] <ogra> :)
[12:25] <chillywilly> and I learned a few things
[12:25] <chillywilly> I took my time and read through the entire new maintainers guide
[12:26] <chillywilly> and created my own files then compared against what was in the archived package
[12:26] <ogra> great :)
[12:26] <chillywilly> copied some stuff from that too
[12:27] <comadreja> hello there
[12:27] <comadreja> ogra, I've got a fixed lirc package
[12:27] <comadreja> how could I upload it ?
[12:28] <ogra> put it somewhere and mail me the link, i'll upload it tomorrow... i'm about to go to bed...
[12:28] <ogra> ogra@ubuntu.com
[12:28] <comadreja> cool, I'll do it, thanks :)
[12:28] <comadreja> you close the bug ?
[12:28] <ogra> thanks to you, for the fix :)
[12:28] <ogra> yep
[12:28] <comadreja> perfect
[12:28] <ogra> after the upload..
[02:02] <Burgundavia> as a public service announcment, all the MOTU and Universe wiki pages now have the category MOTU. To add it a page, add ["CategoryMOTU"] 
[02:04] <robitaille> or use the user-friendly pull down menu when editing the wiki page
[03:43] <whiprush> tseng: pingage.
[03:44] <tseng> dudeage
[03:44] <whiprush> dooder I don't know if you saw my message but muine + the extensions have been stable for me.
[03:44] <tseng> yes
[03:44] <whiprush> it's not like a few weeks ago where they blew up.
[03:45] <ajmitch> rock
[03:45] <whiprush> hey aj
[03:45] <ajmitch> hey whiprush, tseng
[03:45] <tseng> hi
[03:46] <whiprush> tseng: have you had a chance to check out this sonance thing people on monologue are on about?
[03:47] <schweeb> wassup bishes
[03:48] <tseng> whiprush: im not a fan
[03:48] <tseng> whiprush: its bloatware
[03:48] <whiprush> hmmm
[03:48] <ajmitch> hey schweeb
[03:48] <tseng> did you see my invite on gimpnet
[03:48] <whiprush> me?
[03:48] <tseng> yes you
[03:48] <whiprush> no
[03:48] <tseng> well read it
[03:49] <whiprush> where am I looking? what am I looking for?
[03:49] <whiprush> a /msg?
[03:49] <tseng> status window
[03:51] <tseng> uh
[03:53] <tseng> har-har
[03:53] <tseng> i wish svn had a timeout
[03:53] <tseng> in udu i sat there for an hour at 3am wonder why i couldnt svn up
[03:54] <chris_> omg ipv6
[04:27] <whiprush> hey
[05:56] <\sh> morning
[05:58] <bddebian> Good morning \sh
[05:59] <\sh> anything new on the deadline?
[05:59] <bddebian> Not that I've seen but I just got here a bit ago and it's been pretty quiet
[06:01] <\sh> k so I have enough time to have a shower and rushing into office ,-)
[06:01] <bddebian> Enjoy :-)
[06:02] <\sh> ugh...kdelibs update removed my kdm...this is not good
[06:03] <bddebian> :-(
[06:04] <whiprush> morning \sh
[06:04] <\sh> hey whiprush
[06:04] <ajmitch> hi \sh
[06:05] <bddebian> ajmitch!!
[06:05] <ajmitch> yes?
[06:05] <bddebian> Just Hi :-)
[06:06] <ajmitch> hello
[06:06] <\sh> ok..kdm is there again...with a bit of admins force ,-)
[06:07] <ajmitch> apt-get install gdm? ;)
[06:07] <whiprush> heh
[06:07] <bddebian> hehe
[06:08] <\sh> ajmitch: was removed as well
[06:08] <\sh> xbase-clients ,-)
[06:08] <ajmitch> he'll see the light eventually
[06:08] <ajmitch> that's why you don't do dist-upgrades on breezy
[06:08] <\sh> ah come on no risk no fun
[06:08] <ajmitch> blind dist-upgrades from cron are fun :)
[06:08] <Lathiat> you need to dist-upgrade sometimes too
[06:09] <ajmitch> Lathiat: of course, but when it's safe
[06:09] <ajmitch> and it's certainly not very safe right now
[06:09] <Lathiat> its not?
[06:09] <Lathiat> i just started one shoul di stop? :)
[06:09] <\sh> actually..it's 4:09 utc...I don't have any coffee, but I need something which brings my brain from 0 to 100 mph in 0.5 seconds ,-)
[06:09] <ajmitch> xserver-xorg asks me the same 3 debconf questions every time it gets upgraded... :)
[06:09] <Lathiat> ajmith: sucks to be you i dont have that problem
[06:09] <bddebian> \sh: Pure grain alcohol? :-)
[06:10] <\sh> bddebian: tomorrow evening yes...but not today ,-) no aclohol before work ,-)
[06:19] <\sh> ok..after reading the weekly gnome/kde bashing thread I will hurry and rush into office...cu later
[06:35] <bddebian> Hello crimsun
[06:35] <crimsun> hi bddebian
[06:38] <bddebian> Holy crap that's still a big list of MOM stuff.. :-(
[08:18] <\sh> back
[08:29] <Burgundavia> ogra, ping
[09:37] <ivoks> hi :)
[10:02] <\sh> hey ivo
[10:02] <HostingGeek> Burgundavia: hi
[10:03] <\sh> ogra: double ping prio 1 ,-)
[10:33] <SloMoSnail> are there any news on increasment of the mom-merge?
[10:35] <siretart> well, there are still 212 merges open, and deadline is today :(
[10:38] <SloMoSnail> so the deadline is not increased? :( hmm, i'll do at least some stuff this afternoon, evening and night ;) but i don't think we will finish even half of the 212 merges...
[10:49] <\sh> I'm migrating to daniels mode now ,-) funny changelog comments
[10:50] <\sh> siretart: i was thinking to upload every package left from MoM...and fixing it later...
[10:50] <\sh> ,-)
[10:51] <siretart> \sh: I see your point, I hope that we will get some more time, because this cannot be whats meant with the deadline :/
[10:54] <\sh> what shall we do...too less resources too less time
[10:54] <\sh> and some of those packages are really nasty
[11:10] <siretart> jepp
[11:10] <siretart> but I'm here way too busy :(
[11:18] <ogra> \sh, <Kamion> the deadline is fairly soft, end of today I'd like to see all of main done
[11:18] <ogra> \sh, note he said main.... :)
[11:18] <siretart> first good news for today :)
[11:19] <ogra> so we may be able to handle it a bit softer... but i dont think we should extend it over the weekend...
[11:20] <\sh> ogra: me neither...
[11:20] <Burgundavia> ogra, I have already made pitti cry
[11:21] <ogra> Burgundavia, i saw :), thanks *g*
[11:21] <\sh> and if anybody has a idea how to handle libhid it would be greate..updated Makefile.am to use python2.4 but aclocal* bla stuff didn't work for takeing the changes
[11:21] <Burgundavia> did 2 tonight
[11:21] <Burgundavia> more tomorrow
[11:22] <ogra> i'll start tomorrow..... i've still xscreensaver to merge until tonight
[11:22] <ogra> and i was planning to have them done after the weekend....
[11:26] <comadreja> ogra, where do I put packages that don't build because of the kdelibs2c2 thingy (or however it is called) ?
[11:26] <comadreja> I say so because I was working on a merge
[11:26] <comadreja> kdirstat, and I fixed it (I presume) and it doesn't build because of that
[11:27] <\sh> comadreja: the stoper is libopenexr-dev
[11:27] <\sh> cause of glu love
[11:27] <\sh> i filed a bug
[11:27] <\sh> with actual kdelibs4 it works
[11:27] <\sh> but stopping at openexr-dev
[11:27] <\sh> ogra: I filed a bug + debdiff can u check and upload? l
[11:28] <comadreja> poor ogra, we all talking to him :)
[11:28] <ogra> heh... hes, my ears are ringing :)
[11:29] <comadreja> we're talking good things, of course
[11:29] <ogra> do glu builds work again ?
[11:29] <\sh> sure...using the packages which were given
[11:30] <\sh> it's funny...
[11:31] <\sh> mysql-query-browser was my first packages in malone where I patched the desktop file
[11:31] <\sh> now it's my nightmare, where I patch bloody gtkmm source to build for amd64
[11:35] <siretart> ogra: glu build do somehow, but since the glu transition seems to be unnecessary, build depends will change. currently it is unclear how that will affect existing packages, i.e. if buildeps need to be changed again
[11:36] <ogra> somehow it sounds like that... but lets see waht daniels will do :)
[11:39] <rob^> now I'm just getting authorization failed
[11:39] <rob^> oops wrong chan
[01:11] <chrissturm> hey, is anyone working on wxgtk 2.6 packages?
[01:13] <siretart> chrissturm: they are in NEW and need ftpmaster approval, afaik
[01:14] <chrissturm> siretart, pgadmin3 doenst build because of them missing
[01:16] <siretart> chrissturm: our first priority is merging, atm
[01:16] <ogra> chrissturm, just be patient :)
[01:21] <chrissturm> ok
[01:21] <Mez> whats the point of mozilla-firefox in universe?
[01:27] <\sh> ogra: it wasn't reviewd ,-)
[01:27] <\sh> or?
[01:28] <ogra> hmm, it just should disappear
[01:28] <\sh> ogra: humility?
[01:29] <\sh> press your thumbs for netapplet
[01:29] <\sh> i hate reading diff files
[01:30] <Mez> \sh, dont read them :D
[01:30] <Mez> unless of course your reading them for my packages, then go ahead
[01:30] <\sh> Mez: netapplet
[01:31] <\sh> this is not the prio
[01:31] <\sh> prio is fck MOM ,-)
[01:32] <Mez> o_O
[01:32] <Mez> wha?
[01:32] <\sh> MergeOMatic
[01:32] <\sh> w.u.c/MOTUToMerge
[01:32] <Mez> and er, how am I meant to check that?
[01:33] <Mez> sorry
[01:33] <Mez> whgats needing to be done?
[01:34] <Mez> is AMD not on GCC4 yet?
[01:36] <\sh> there r merges from debian to be done by hand
[01:36] <siretart> Mez: every bug in this list must be handeled today! http://tinyurl.com/apx5k
[01:38] <comadreja> ogra : did you check the package I sent to you ?
[01:42] <Mez> siretart: handled how?
[01:43] <Mez> oh, you mean MOM
[01:43] <siretart> ok
[01:43] <Mez> the ones for k3b you can ignore
[01:43] <Mez> lol
[01:43] <Mez> but I dont have upload access
[01:43] <siretart> Mez: if you want to help, you can try to identify them, escp the non trivial ones, and provide debdiffs for merges
[01:44] <siretart> Mez: look for bigger -dropped.patch'es, they are most likley to require manual wirk
[01:44] <siretart> work
[01:47] <ogra> comadreja, i havent any mail from you yet, when did you send iot ?
[01:47] <ogra> it
[02:08] <\sh> even the small dropped patches needs a lot of love *grrrr*
[02:33] <|rockinnerd|> "1 bomb has exploded" (from some1 in the underground)
[02:33] <|rockinnerd|> oops wrong channel
[02:58] <pef> hello !
[03:00] <kbrooks> hey
[03:01] <bddebian> Morning
[03:01] <bddebian> How goes Merge-o-Mania? :-)
[03:02] <havoc> morning
[03:46] <comadreja> ogra, I sent it late yesterday... from jorge@drqueue.org
[03:47] <ogra> its not here... you sent to ogra@ubuntu.com ?
[03:47] <comadreja> yes
[03:47] <ogra> hmm...
[03:47] <comadreja> let me check the mail queue
[03:48] <comadreja> oh, yes, I had a server problem, it's on the queue. I'll resend it.
[03:49] <ogra> great :)
[03:50] <comadreja> you'll be receiving it any minute
[03:50] <comadreja> :)
[03:51] <ogra> thanks :)
[03:53] <comadreja> thank you, it was an easy fix
[03:56] <comadreja> btw, there was one about kismet that I also closed, because the version I uploaded was newer than the debian one
[03:58] <ogra> yep, thats right, thanks again :)
[04:04] <chillywilly> how can I tell what glibc was compiled with?
[04:04] <chillywilly> what gcc version
[04:04] <comadreja> ogra, is there any kind of versioning control on the packages ?
[04:04] <comadreja> chillywilly : ldd ?
[04:04] <comadreja> ogra, so we could revert changes made to them and so ?
[04:05] <chillywilly> that would tell you what is linked in
[04:06] <bddebian> chillywilly: objdump?
[04:06] <bddebian> Oh yeah, or ldd
[04:07] <chillywilly> or you can make /lib/libc.so.6 executable and run it ;P
[04:07] <chillywilly> Compiled by GNU CC version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2).
[04:07] <chillywilly> Compiled on a Linux 2.6.0-test7 system on 2005-03-23.
[04:08] <chillywilly> same version of compiler that I have installed
[04:12] <bddebian> vs. the version you don't have installed? ;-P
[04:13] <bddebian> chillywilly: So you're actually coming to join us or are you doing this for yourself?
[04:14] <chillywilly> I made a package for myseld and learned a lot in the process....I don't think they want to upoload a CVS version of smartmontools ;)
[04:14] <chillywilly> I don't think the 3ware utils are freely redistributable either
[04:14] <chillywilly> I would need something to package ;)
[04:17] <bddebian> Oh still worthless then eh??
[04:25] <comadreja> why would a package depend on python 2.3 and 2.4 at the same time ?
[04:26] <comadreja> oh, I see, thanks :)
[04:29] <bddebian> comadreja: You're welcome ;-)
[04:33] <\sh> to be debian compatible ,-)
[05:16] <Nafallo> is xorg -43 safe? :-)
[05:17] <tseng> not really
[05:17] <tseng> unless you hate xrdb
[05:22] <Amaranth> xrdb?
[05:23] <jamessan|work> Xresource db utility
[05:45] <SloMo_> re
[05:48] <\sh> actually....netapplet is ready
[05:48] <chrissturm> netapplet? doesnt breezy use networkmanager?
[05:50] <\sh> ok...later guys..going home
[05:54] <schweeb> chrissturm: it has networkmanager
[05:54] <schweeb> it doesn't use it by default
[05:55] <Burgundavia> what would it take to get libdvdcss2 into multiverse?
[05:55] <tseng> um
[05:56] <tseng> that one is scary
[05:56] <SloMo_> Burgundavia: changing of laws in a few big countries? ;)
[05:56] <Burgundavia> ok
[05:56] <Burgundavia> libdvdcss2 is patent issues only
[05:56] <Burgundavia> not copyright ala w32codecs
[05:57] <tseng> http://web.lemuria.org/DeCSS/tro.html
[05:58] <SloMo_> Burgundavia: but it allows circumvention of copy protection (dmca and at least one german law come to mind)... i wouldn't touch it ;)
[05:58] <tseng> Burgundavia: anything that infringes on IP rights of MPAA/RIAA in the US is bad news
[05:58] <Burgundavia> ouch
[05:58] <tseng> because they *will* litigate
[05:59] <tseng> if you note, they included 2600 magazine in the suit
[06:00] <tseng> for linking to decss code
[06:00] <Burgundavia> hmm, mdz talked about getting libdvdcss2 into mutliverse at some point
[06:02] <tseng> they dropped it finally in 2004
[06:09] <SloMo_> tseng: have you looked at what i've written to your mom-bugs? is this somewhat usefull for you or would something else be more usefull ;)
[06:10] <tseng> yes that was good thanks
[06:10] <tseng> did you happen to make source packages when you did that?
[06:10] <tseng> it sounded like you tested it
[06:12] <SloMo_> i only tested the stuff which were merged automatically without drops... but for the 2 (or 3?) other packages i can do some atm as i can't decide what to do next ;)
[06:14] <SloMo_> well it was only monodevelop which needs some handmerging... and gtk#2 but the dropped patch scared me away
[06:14] <tseng> ill look at that
[06:15] <SloMo_> gtk# or monodevelop?
[06:15] <tseng> yes thats a mistake
[06:15] <tseng> gtk#2
[06:16] <tseng> you get that kind of stuff on uupdate when the clean target doesnt work as expected
[06:16] <tseng> it puts stuff from the configured source into the diff
[06:16] <SloMo_> oh good to know for the future :)
[06:16] <tseng> yeah
[06:16] <tseng> that can be safely dropped
[06:16] <SloMo_> against which version do you want the debdiff for monodevelop? the version uploaded by mom?
[06:16] <tseng> hm
[06:17] <tseng> i wonder if he has added ikvm and stuff
[06:17] <tseng> i know we'll need boo to sync
[06:17] <tseng> or leave it out
[06:18] <tseng> i dont really like using MOM tbh
[06:19] <tseng> i get the debian source package
[06:19] <tseng> and apply the ubuntu changes back to it from memory
[06:20] <SloMo_> ok, so you're caring for monodevelop now? fine, i'll go to offlineimap then :)
[06:22] <SloMo_> the ubuntu changes in monodevelop were only adjusting the build dependencies when the changelog is right
[06:22] <tseng> im not caring for anything now
[06:22] <tseng> im at work
[06:23] <tseng> i dont usually have a ton of energy left by the time i get home
[06:23] <tseng> lately.
[06:35] <SloMo_> tseng: hmm i would say we should resync boo from debian... the new version has just a fix for the .pc file... i'll ask elmo about that, ok? other than the boo stuff i've a working monodevelop package here with the ubuntu changes (that is when i can trust the changelog)
[06:37] <\sh> re
[06:37] <SloMo_> wb \sh
[06:37] <\sh> ok..no kdm no gdm no xdm...w8 for riddell to fix kdebase ,-)
[06:38] <Riddell> \sh: looks like kdebase needs to wait for a xmkmf package
[06:38] <\sh> ugh
[06:38] <\sh> i say
[06:38] <\sh> so i have to help myself ,-)
[06:41] <\sh> hehe...dpkg --force-all -i kdm* /home/shermann/xorg/xbase-clients_6.8.2-36_i386.deb
[06:42] <\sh> brb
[06:44] <siretart> bye folks
[06:45] <SloMo_> bye siretart
[06:46] <skora> hi everybody
[06:47] <bddebian> Hello skora
[06:48] <skora> I'm a bit confused about the MOTU's purpose, after I Read the wiki page...is this the proper place to discuss about updating breezy packages ?
[06:48] <skora> or is it just for adding packages to breezy's universe
[06:55] <\sh> skora: we're the maintainer of the universe...we're adding, fixing, removing what's in universe, what not...
[06:57] <bddebian> Well some of them are.  I just pick my nose a lot. ;-P
[07:01] <ogra> bddebian, thats ok with is, as long as you dont throw the remainings in the channel :)
[07:02] <SloMo_> lol
[07:02] <tritium> wtf just landed on my screen?
[07:03] <bddebian>  "something" ;-)
[07:03] <tritium> bddebian, sicko ;)
[07:03] <bddebian> Pretty much
[07:03] <bddebian> So who has the patience to explain the merge stuff to me?  I was looking at licq last night
[07:05] <SloMo_> bddebian: maybe me when you ask some questions ;)
[07:05] <bddebian> SloMo_: Well I have asked them in the past but do I get special treatment now that I'm a "member" ?? ;-)
[07:05] <ogra> bddebian, licq is already done....
[07:05] <bddebian> grr
[07:06] <ogra> (isnt the bug "pendingupload" ?
[07:06] <ogra> )
[07:06] <bddebian> I quit
[07:06] <bddebian> It wasn't as of Midnight last night
[07:06] <SloMo_> bddebian: no :P i just haven't seen your questions... sorry
[07:06] <ogra> bddebian, a explanation of the merge process is in every bug
[07:06] <ogra> there is a link to a readme...
[07:07] <bddebian> I know
[07:07] <bddebian> But the README says that the ubuntu and merge diffs should match
[07:08] <ogra> it says you should look at the dropped.patch ;)
[07:08] <ogra> ignore the rest :)
[07:09] <bddebian> I don't see licq marked as pendingupload!???
[07:10] <ogra> ok, i'll do it..
[07:12] <bddebian> Do what?
[07:13] <bddebian> You aren't thinking of lirc are you?
[07:13] <ogra> bddebian, setting it on pendingupload... but i'm an idiot :-P i muddled licq and lirc
[07:13] <ogra> bddebian, go ahead, fix it :)
[07:14] <\sh> my grandma is dead
[07:14] <\sh> actually it's good.
[07:14] <ogra> \sh, :(
[07:14] <tritium> I'm sorry to hear that, \sh
[07:15] <\sh> at least, she doesn't have to suffer anymore...
[07:17] <\sh> but I thought I'm over it..cause I said long time ago "good bye" to her...but I'm not..not really
[07:21] <bddebian> \sh: Sorry to hear that
[07:22] <bddebian> ogra: But for licq, there is no dropped patch??
[07:23] <ogra> great.... tag it pendingupload then and mark it on the wikipage
[07:23] <bddebian> So nothing needs to be done??
[07:23] <SloMo_> bddebian: but first test if it really compiles ;) sometimes that don't work
[07:23] <ogra> no dropped patch means the merge worked automatically
[07:24] <ogra> bddebian, which still means manual upload, but no further work
[07:24] <bddebian> Heya crimsun
[07:24] <\sh> damn
[07:25] <\sh> this posting went 2 times into the database
[07:25] <ogra> bddebian, so finding all bugs that have no dropped.patch and tagging them pendingupload would be very helpful
[07:25] <bddebian> Haha, unment dependency for licq
[07:25] <crimsun> hey bddebian
[07:27] <bddebian> kdelibs4 has been replaced with kdelibs4c2 ??
[07:28] <ogra> yep
[07:28] <ogra> Cxx transition
[07:28] <\sh> bddebian: pull in kdelibs4-dev
[07:28] <bddebian> \sh: ??
[07:29] <\sh> bddebian: build-depends: kdelibs4-dev
[07:29] <\sh> u will get kdelibs4c2 then in the dependencies
[07:30] <bddebian> \sh: It is build depends kdelibs4-dev ?
[07:30] <\sh> it should be when it should build the kde gui plugin
[07:31] <bddebian> Ahh, an apt-get update helps.. ;-)
[07:31] <\sh> ??
[07:31] <Amaranth> wow, you haven't updated in months
[07:31] <Amaranth> if you didn't have kdelibs4c2
[07:32] <bddebian> ogra: Can I mark stuff on bugzilla as pending upload even though not an MOTU?
[07:32] <bddebian> Amaranth: I updated day before yesterday
[07:32] <Amaranth> bddebian: no way
[07:32] <bddebian> Yes, because I have been building UniverseUnmetDeps
[07:32] <Amaranth> bddebian: no, i meant updating yesterday
[07:32] <Amaranth> oh, so do you :p
[07:33] <Amaranth> do you have editbugs permissions?
[07:33] <ogra> bddebian, whats your bugzilla login, i can give you editbugs rights
[07:33] <bddebian> I dunno, I doubt it :-)
[07:34] <tseng> SloMo_: sounds fine
[07:34] <ogra> bddebian, ? login data ?
[07:34] <bddebian> ogra: I don't think I have a bugzilla login.  I have a malone one :-)
[07:35] <SloMo_> tseng: hmm, what exactly? boo resync?
[07:35] <\sh> somethigns wrong with the upload servers?
[07:35] <tseng> SloMo_: yes
[07:35] <SloMo_> tseng: ok :) i'll ask elmo then
[07:35] <ogra> bddebian, create one :) give me the data and i'll assign you editbugs
[07:35] <bddebian> ogra: Yeah but then you'll put me to work.. ;-P
[07:36] <ogra> yep ...
[07:36] <ogra> bddebian, STOP NOSEPICKING !
[07:36] <ogra> :)
[07:36] <bddebian> hehe
[07:36] <tseng> what?
[07:37] <bddebian> Hi tseng
[07:38] <ogra> tseng, he picks his nose all the time and flicks around "stuff" in the channel... we need to assign more work to him :)
[07:38] <bddebian> heh
[07:38] <tseng> oh
[07:38] <tseng> yes.
[07:39] <tseng> on a similar note, i think we should have a public service announcment about voting in meetings
[07:39] <bddebian> tseng: Aye
[07:39] <tseng> if you arent a member, you dont need to try and ++ something every time
[07:39] <tseng> it got pretty out of hand
[07:39] <tseng> besides the whole "what the hell is this topic about" bit
[07:40] <ogra> which meeting are you referring to tseng ?
[07:40] <tseng> the last CC
[07:40] <bddebian> ogra: Last CC meeting
[07:41] <tseng> besides that even member votes dont "really" count on most topics
[07:41] <ogra> but ++ or -- show consensus/disagreement...
[07:42] <tseng> meh, we'll see
[07:42] <ogra> wihout being a vote
[07:44] <\sh> guys..I will come back later...need sometime for me alone...
[07:45] <ogra> \sh, mein beileid...
[07:46] <tseng> \sh: bye.
[07:46] <\sh> ogra: thank you but actually I should be full of happyness for my granny..that she doesn't have paine anymore...
[07:55] <comadreja> ogra : ping
[07:55] <ogra> comadreja,
[07:55] <ogra> ?
[07:56] <comadreja> hello, I've been in a key signing meeting and I'd like to know if my key is good now
[07:56] <ogra> did you already upload it with the new signatures attached ?
[07:56] <SloMo_> hmm... am i right that struct timespec should be available when time.h is included? and that snprintf, strcasecmp, nanosleep and strdup shall be defined when stdio.h/stdlib.h is included?
[07:56] <comadreja> yes
[07:56] <comadreja> to wwwkeys.pgp.net
[07:57] <ogra> SloMo_, isnt strdup in string.h ?
[07:57] <comadreja> SloMo_ you need to define _GNU_SOURCE now
[07:57] <comadreja> like gcc -D_GNU_SOURCE
[07:57] <SloMo_> ogra: or that... there's enough stuff included but i get "warning: implicit declaration of function 'strcasecmp'" and for timespec "error: storage size of 'req' isn't known"
[07:57] <SloMo_> comadreja: isn't this defined by default?
[07:57] <comadreja> not anymore
[07:58] <ogra> SloMo_, nope
[07:58] <ogra> SloMo_, try with #define _GNU_SOURCE
[07:58] <SloMo_> thanks... it works :)
[07:58] <comadreja> :) np
[07:59] <comadreja> how do I check my key ?
[07:59] <SloMo_> ogra: i think it's better to -D_GNU_SOURCE in the Makefile... these problems are in every sourcefile of this package ;)
[07:59] <ogra> comadreja, ID ?
[07:59] <ogra> SloMo_, oh, yes then...
[07:59] <comadreja> 5D7ACDEF
[07:59] <comadreja> two debian developers signed it
[08:00] <ogra> comadreja, the key itself looks good, but i cant determine the trustpath yet
[08:00] <comadreja> yet ? does it take time ?
[08:00] <SloMo_> ogra: seems that the pathfinder isn't updated yet
[08:00] <ogra> yep
[08:00] <comadreja> oh, damn, you also use the pathfinder ?
[08:00] <ogra> comadreja, http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?STAT=A2D06936&STATS=statistics
[08:01] <SloMo_> comadreja: but when it's signed by 2 debian devs it should be ok :) don't worry ;)
[08:01] <ogra> i check if people have a connection of any kind to me...
[08:01] <comadreja> ok, so even if it doesn't appear on pathfinder it's ok ?
[08:02] <bddebian> ogra: Waiting for my bugzilla e-mail address
[08:02] <ogra> comadreja, the sign of Roberto Lumbreras has a nearly direct connection to me ...
[08:02] <bddebian> err password
[08:02] <ogra> great :)
[08:02] <comadreja> he's a friend of mine
[08:03] <comadreja> great
[08:03] <ogra> comadreja, since he is on your keyring the path to you should work as well...
[08:03] <bddebian> Well licq FTBFSs
[08:03] <ogra> oh, why ?
[08:04] <SloMo_> ogra: i'll get a sign by someone who has signed mako directly in a few days... so i'll have 2 disjunct paths with length 3 to you :)
[08:04] <ogra> comadreja, so currently its a timeshift problem with the pathfinder
[08:04] <bddebian> I'm not exactly sure but it looks like qt3 issues
[08:04] <tritium> robitaille, I searched high and low for a good postscript editor, but didn't find any solutions to be satisfactory
[08:04] <ogra> SloMo_, yay
[08:04] <comadreja> cool, then I'll upload this one to launchpad
[08:04] <SloMo_> bddebian: paste it on pastebin.com for example :)
[08:05] <comadreja> or is it not necesary ?
[08:06] <bddebian> SloMo_: I will thx.  First I need a smoke :-)
[08:06] <ogra> comadreja, the important part is to mail it to keyring@ubuntulinux.org, once you got approved as a MOTU ;)
[08:07] <ogra> comadreja, thats effectively the last step of becoming a MOTU ;(
[08:07] <ogra> ;)
[08:07] <comadreja> did I got approved ?
[08:07] <ogra> not yet
[08:07] <ogra> but i'm happy to vote for you next TB
[08:07] <comadreja> so I don't need it for being a member ?
[08:07] <comadreja> thanks ! :)
[08:08] <ogra> oh, you arent a member yet ? i thought you got approved ?
[08:08] <comadreja> yes I am
[08:08] <comadreja> that's got I got the key signed
[08:08] <comadreja> that why
[08:08] <comadreja> I thought I needed it
[08:08] <ogra> so sign the CoC and send it to mako... so you'll get apprved next TB (if you set yourself on the agenda indeed)
[08:09] <SloMo_> comadreja: i think you have add your name here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaintainerCandidates
[08:09] <comadreja> oh, cool
[08:09] <SloMo_> ogra: isn't it enough to upload the signed CoC to launchpad? or what is this launchpad feature for? :)
[08:10] <ogra> SloMo_, yes, thats the future way, but currently mako didnt switch completely... so his file is still the master
[08:12] <SloMo_> oh ok... good to know :)
[08:17] <bddebian> SloMo_, et al: http://www2.bddebian.com:8000/packages/ubuntu/licq/buildpkg1.log
[08:20] <SloMo_> bddebian: wonderfull :) should be simple to fix... do you know some c++?
[08:21] <bddebian> No but I'll wing it. ;-)
[08:21] <bddebian> SloMo_: messagebox.h ?
[08:22] <SloMo_> yes
[08:22] <bddebian> But that's from qt3.  Do I really want to touch that?
[08:23] <SloMo_> messagebox.h is from licq
[08:23] <SloMo_> should lie somewhere in the licq sourcetree
[08:24] <bddebian> OK
[08:34] <SloMo_> bddebian: found the error?
[08:51] <SloMo_> bddebian: ping?
[09:01] <bddebian> SloMo_: SOrry, work, bbiab
[09:02] <SloMo_> bddebian: ok, np :) you can ask me when you haven't solved it until tomorrow as i'll go to sleep in a few minutes ;)
[09:15] <SloMo_> gn8
[09:16] <zyga> pitti: there's --disable-debug somewhere in default settings, add ac_add_options --enable-debug
[09:16] <zyga> darn he's gone
[09:21] <Amaranth> zyga: wrong channel :)
[09:22] <zyga> Amaranth: hmmm..... true :>
[10:17] <ajmitch> morning
[11:00] <\sh> re
[11:14] <\sh> ok working further
[11:14] <ajmitch> hi \sh
[11:15] <\sh> evening ajmitch
[11:31] <comadreja> hello \sh :)
[11:34] <\sh> hey comadreja
[11:36] <\sh> btw..are the keymaps working again after reconfigure of xorg? ,-)
[11:38] <comadreja> just upgrading, let me try :)
[11:38] <\sh> without xmodmap ,-)
[11:41] <comadreja> nopes, don't work
[11:41] <\sh> k
[11:41] <comadreja> is there any config needed ?
[11:42] <comadreja> even worse, there is no xmodmap
[11:42] <\sh> install those ones from xbase-clients -36 ,-)
[11:43] <comadreja> wtf, I thought they uploaded because they solved something :)
[11:46] <comadreja> I wonder if I need to reinstall something
[11:47] <\sh> there is new work coming...don't think about X
[11:47] <comadreja> how do I install only those files from -36 ?
[11:48] <\sh> with mc
[11:48] <\sh> copy them directly to /usr/bin, be hard, be cool, do the gentoo way *lol*
[11:48] <comadreja> :DDD
[11:49] <\sh> actually I did it :) and tomorrow morning I do dpkg --force-all -i kdm*.deb xbase-clients*-36*.deb
[11:49] <\sh> to get my kdm running again, appears the same with gdm
[11:51] <comadreja> yes, I lost my (few) kde packages. but some very important like kdiff3 and umbrello
[11:52] <comadreja> oh, it's back :DDD
[11:53] <\sh> comadreja: kdiff3 is building just now here on my machine :)
[11:53] <comadreja> it's back, don't build
[11:53] <\sh> i have to build anyways:)
[11:53] <\sh> merge o matic
[11:54] <comadreja> hahaha
[11:54] <\sh> yes...and replacing the whole admin/ dir is not funny...
[11:55] <\sh> because it was old...and needed some new admin dir from kde3.4.1
[11:55] <\sh> the old one didn't work out nicely with gcc4
[11:58] <comadreja> so your into kde ?
[11:59] <comadreja> you're
[11:59] <\sh> yes...I'm counterpart of ogra in motu world ,-)
[11:59] <ogra> heh
[12:00] <\sh> kdiff3 uploaded
[12:01] <comadreja> you both are the best :)
[12:03] <\sh> I'm crazy that's all