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DragaI can't even start ubuntu live so i can't say anything about it.12:00
gotonpohow often do you need to reboot?12:00
desrtColonelKernel; if it's not taking the mode you want it might be because your hsync/vsync params are wrong12:00
ColonelKerneldesrt, im sorry but this just isnt true in my case. I force 100hz on 1024x768 all the time, im other distros and even in winXP12:00
ColonelKerneldesrt, ok - what can I use to get the thing to run @ 100hz12:00
desrtColonelKernel; did you give your own hsync/vsync  values?12:01
desrt1024x768 must be like 1280x1024 including front and back porch12:01
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davegnome has really bad focus problems12:01
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ColonelKernelhsync 30-96 vert refresh 30-18012:01
Gouramiquestion: can a daily cron job be set to mail you a completion status ?12:01
kutucapedave, no it;s not12:01
desrtso like.... you'd need 128kHz horiz12:01
DragaNo one can help me?12:01
desrtya12:02
ColonelKernelwell thats not going to work out at all12:02
daveis there somewhere i can configure these?12:02
desrtthat 96 isn't high enough for 100Hz12:02
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: Your clocking is based on M$ terms, not real world terms.  When you say speed. you mean boot up time and such, Linux works faster by having less of a Memory trail.  Linux was not designed to Shut down, you never need too.12:02
ColonelKernelthats gonna scramble things in my normal desktop res12:02
kutucapeDraga, what's your problem12:02
desrtColonelKernel; do you know how monitor timings work?12:02
desrtColonelKernel; the card and the monitor need time to drag the ray gun back to the left/top of the monitor to begin another draw cycle12:02
daveDraga: i would suggest loading agpgart or something, but i really have no idea12:02
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LuNaTiK^GuYXyc0,  ok that's true...but i never keep my PC on for days on end12:02
desrtand also they need rest time at the beginning and end of each line12:02
daveis there some easy way to configure all of gnome?12:02
ColonelKerneldesrt, I know if I increase hsync past 105 it goes insane12:02
Dragadave: What's that?12:02
desrtit's called 'front porch' and 'back porch'12:02
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desrtah.12:03
desrtnot suprising :)12:03
DragaCould someone help me? I tried Ubuntu 5.1 live-cd and it boots but when it start loading OS it just went black... Nothing happens after that and 64bit live-image. I use Hp pavilion zv6028ea computer (laptop) AMD 64bit 3200, Ati radeon xpress200m...12:03
Xyc0Draga: I really reccomend you install Linux, even on a Dual Boot so you can keep M$ just in case12:03
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Xyc0Draga: I can help you more when we can actualy modify Ubuntu12:03
ColonelKernelwell this works fine in other distros, and ive gotten this to work in ubuntu before but I dont know how...12:03
DragaXyc0: But if the live-cd doesnt work so how i can EVEN instal it?12:03
daveDraga: ray gun!!12:03
desrtso basically, you want to force the increase in hsync for 1024 (games?) but go back down to normal for higher res...12:03
Xyc0Draga: Live-CD for Ubuntu is not the best in the world12:04
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desrtColonelKernel; the gnome resolution thing has something that you can manually specify the refresh rate...12:04
Xyc0Draga: If you want to try linux in general, try Kipponix12:04
davegnome sucks when it comes to setting focus to stuff. is this fixable?12:04
DragaIt takes like 3hours to download it so it takes hell of a time and if it doesnt even work?12:04
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Dragadave: Instal KDE12:04
desrtColonelKernel; ie: you could write in the over-spec hsync line and use the gnome resolution thing to force yourself back down to a normal rate for desktop12:04
ColonelKerneldesrt, I do not want to do it everytime though, this SHOULD be working with a Modeline12:04
daveDraga: ok12:04
ColonelKerneldesrt, will try, brb12:05
LuNaTiK^GuYppl...if u visit www.playreaction.com and check the linux articles i'm writing12:05
desrtColonelKernel; the X server automatically discards modelines that are out of range12:05
LuNaTiK^GuYi'll be basing them on Ubuntu12:05
Gouramiok if no one has an answer on cron job notification via e-mail please refer me to somewhere I can look for help12:05
_mikesomeone mentioned earlier of a program to automatically configure grub when you make a new kernel? what was the name of that?12:05
LuNaTiK^GuYi chose YOU to introduce it to M$ ppl :)12:05
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davewhats the. .aptiwhat?12:05
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daveaptivate or something.12:06
wdhGourami, what was your exact question?12:06
DragaI guess i'm not going to use ubuntu :<12:06
daveDraga: not if the cd doesnt boot, no12:06
wdhGourami, never mind, i read it12:06
daveDraga: you have the option of rerolling your own ubuntu CD i suppose12:06
Dragadave: CD does boot but it doesnt load the ost12:06
davewith support for that card12:06
daveDraga: when does it stop, after the reboot?12:07
DragaOS12:07
wdhGourami, i believe cron does that by default.. i think it sends it to root@localhost unless you specify another emailaddress12:07
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Gouramiwdh: I have a cron job wich in a nutshell is a backup which runs on a unmanned workstation that I do not want to chec every day to see if the backup ran so I would like the cron to mail me a result/status code12:07
Dragadave: No. It's a live CD. It shows "Ubuntu:" Then i press enter and it starts loading some shit and them boom just black12:07
DragaAnd nothing happens12:07
davesee if you can disable the framebuffer12:08
Xyc0Draga: How long did you give it time to process?12:08
wdhGourami, cron does that by default.. it mails any output of the command..12:08
Gouramiwdh: ok then my question would be how do I specify a e-mail address12:08
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kutucapeDraga, try another live cd12:08
DragaXyc0: Hmm.. About couple of minutes12:08
kutucapethere's a bunch of live cd out there12:08
linuxpoetHey anywhere I can get the newer versions of Gnome for Ubuntu?12:08
daveis it possible to disable the framebuffer?12:08
Dragakutucape: Don't wanna waist CD:s12:08
LuNaTiK^GuYUbuntu should be installed...not live-cd tried12:08
wdhGourami, for that i would like to refer you to crontab's manpage :)12:08
Xyc0Draga: I second kutucape, Ubuntu is a good distro, not a live-linux distro12:09
kutucapelinukso, use breezy badger12:09
Xyc0linuxpoet: Breezy Badger12:09
kutucape!breezy12:09
DragaXyc0: I'm only trying to test if it works on my computer that i shouldn't waist DVD:s12:09
LuNaTiK^GuYwot will Breezy Badger include?12:09
Gouramiwdh: ok well at least thats something, failing that i'll be back, thanks12:09
LuNaTiK^GuYmore than Hoary?12:09
davewhat is that program like apt-get but not?12:09
Xyc0yum?12:10
Xyc0or for Ubuntu?12:10
davefor ubuntu.12:10
davesome replacement thing12:10
kutucapeLuNaTiK^GuY, i'm using breezy and it has no difference at all12:10
linuxpoetBreezy Badger?12:10
LuNaTiK^GuYbut its still in development12:10
davenot synaptic, the other one12:10
linuxpoetIs that a repository?12:10
wdhGourami, it's called the 'MAILTO' option.. not sure on how to specify it.. at least it should be done inside the crontab12:11
travelleraptitude?12:11
zerboxxI find totem (default video player) is out of sync (audio/video), any help on fixing this, or should I just get xine, which I know will work?12:11
davethats the one12:11
kutucapelinuxpoet, the next ubuntu version12:11
Xyc0is it any good?12:11
linuxpoetOh12:11
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linuxpoetSo there isn't any contrib that would have it :(12:11
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LuNaTiK^GuYkutucape, what is Breezy promising?12:11
kutucapezerboxx, use xine12:11
Xyc0zerboxx: VLC Media Player12:11
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kutucapewell, there's a wiki on ubuntulinux.org12:11
kutucapeLuNaTiK^GuY, you can read from there..12:12
Gouramiwdh: nothing in tha crontab man at all about outputs12:12
LuNaTiK^GuYkutucape, 10x12:12
kutucapebreezy seems better from hoary12:12
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wdhGourami, no, i noticed the crontab manpage is quite short.. try 'MAILTO = email@address.com' on the first line of your crontab.. (without the quotes naturally)12:13
Xyc0Draga: Why are you using DVDs?  Just use a cheep CDR to run Live CDs12:13
kutucapeLuNaTiK^GuY, you may see a mix between industrial and clearlooks theme12:13
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kutucapesome bugs maybe eliminated12:13
kutucapeCMIIW12:13
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Xyc0Neos12:13
kutucapeand a new gtk with libcairo...12:13
LuNaTiK^GuYkutucape, didnt get that last part...wot do u mean?12:13
Xyc0i like dark themes12:13
kutucapeLuNaTiK^GuY, what part?12:13
funkyHathow can i get middle-click to do the same thing in firefox on windows? (the toggle scroll thing)12:14
zerboxxXyc0: Why VLC and not xine?12:14
Xyc0zerboxx: xine is very slow to update, VLC has a nice clean interface12:14
wdhGourami, any luck yet?12:14
Xyc0zerboxx: I use VLC on M$ aswell12:14
zerboxxXyc0: Does it work well with firefox? (integrated?)12:15
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Gouramiwdh trying now12:15
LuNaTiK^GuYkutucape, this part: you may see a mix between industrial and clearlooks theme12:15
kutucapea new ubuntu theme, but maybe this is a new default gnome theme12:15
kutucapeso polished12:16
Xyc0zerboxx: Yea, there is a mozilla plugin for it that works12:16
funkyHatabout time12:16
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LuNaTiK^GuYoh ic12:16
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zerboxxXyc0: Know what it is called by any chance?12:16
daveirfanview equivalent on linux?12:16
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zerboxxXyc0: Nevermind, found it easily enough :)12:17
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Xyc0zerboxx: lemmy know if you have any troubles installing it12:17
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zerboxxXyc0: Sure thing12:18
LuNaTiK^GuYHow can i make gnome look MAC OS like?12:18
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: gDisklets12:18
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: and one of the many OSX themes for gnome12:19
flamhow come my /proc is 498M ?12:19
LuNaTiK^GuYwot do gDisklets include?12:19
LuNaTiK^GuYand how do i get them?12:19
flamit surprises me.. :P12:19
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hussamI need some help here. I can't get sound out of TvTime ( video works fine )12:21
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wdhGourami, if it wont succeed.. try reading this page.. or search google: http://www.mesagroup.com/html/crontab.html12:21
zerboxxXyc0: Ok, I've run into two problems, how do I go about making it the default video player, and I also have no sound12:21
carambolhow i change Useragent in FF?12:21
Xyc0zerboxx: one sec, i had same problems12:22
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The_Voxcarambol: with the useragent extension, of course12:22
LuNaTiK^GuYXyc0, wot do gDisklets include? and how do i get them?12:23
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carambolok thnx12:23
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Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: sudo apt-get install gdesklets12:23
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Xyc0sudo apt-get install gdesklets-data12:24
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LuNaTiK^GuYXyc0, installed...and how do i launch them?12:25
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patient0I've upgraded to breezy, and man pages for most Xlib calls have vanished. apt-file tells me they're in libx11-dev, but they're not any more. Any idea what package I'd find them in now?12:26
_mikewhen you run kernel-package does does it automatically build the kernel with default configurations?12:26
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LuNaTiK^GuYhow do i use gDeskelts once installed?12:29
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atevesdoes anyone know how to use gmailfs?12:31
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StRHi all!12:34
StRwhen I do a dpkg -L some_package.. I get...  package diverts others to:  /some/file...12:34
StRwhat does it mean?12:34
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patient0It means if other packages try to install a version of that file, it will be put somewhere else instead of overwriting the file.12:35
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StRpatient0: where will they be installed?12:36
abarbacciahey guys how do i format a usb disk from the command line?12:36
LuNaTiK^GuYhow can i access gDesklets???? plzzzz12:36
patient0Not sure. man dpkg-divert12:36
oompano idea.. but do you know where I can find the gaim install? I am trying to configure it with gfire and when I try /usrs/lib/gaim it says "configure: error:Library requirements (gaim) not met, consider adgustsing the PKG_CONFIG_PATH enviroment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them."12:37
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: Apps > Accessories12:37
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LuNaTiK^GuYgDesklets shell12:38
LuNaTiK^GuYnow wot?12:38
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patient0Does anyone have any idea about what package in breezy has the man pages for Xlib programming, seeing as they're no longer part of package libx11-dev?12:39
Xyc0LuNaTiK^GuY: don't be lazy, play around with it12:39
LuNaTiK^GuYlol12:39
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Xyc0Oompa: gaim is installed with ubuntu12:40
Crazygrrr12:40
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Oompa does anyone know where I can find the gaim install? I am trying to configure it with gfire and when I try /usrs/lib/gaim it says "configure: error:Library requirements (gaim) not met, consider adgustsing the PKG_CONFIG_PATH enviroment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them."12:41
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cartel_hey all12:41
cartel_how can i update firefox/thunderbird to 1.0.6?12:41
Xyc0Oompa: Gaim is installed by default, Apps > INternet >Gaim12:41
patient0Oompa: You need package gaim-dev12:42
OompaXtc0: No I mean in the file structure12:42
Xyc0cartel_: backports12:42
Oompapatient0: Where can I get that?12:42
LuNaTiK^GuYgn peeps12:42
patient0apt-get12:42
LuNaTiK^GuY10q for ur help :)12:42
tazAnyone know a good Burner program for Ubuntu, that can burn .img and .iso files?12:42
Oompak12:42
Xyc0Oompa: oh, your trying to compile, sudo apt-get install gaim-dev12:42
Oompak12:42
LuNaTiK^GuYubuntu is awesome ;)12:43
cartel_Xyc0: i dont think ubuntu is allowed to use the "Mozilla" trademark if its releases do not sync with security updates12:43
Xyc0taz: nero has a linux version12:43
cartel_Xyc0: this was brought up on debian-legal12:43
tazXyc0: they have?12:43
Xyc0cartel_: Mozilla is open source12:43
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mjrtaz, right-click on an iso; I'm not sure what an img is and why it should be different12:43
cartel_Xyc0: it is MPL12:43
tazmjr: it does not work with Gnomebaker for example..12:44
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Xyc0gnomebaker is rather iffy12:44
hacked``guys, can anyone help me upgrade my wifi card's driver ?12:44
tazXyc0, so the nero version... is it free?12:44
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Xyc0taz: no, you can use your windows version key to use it12:45
Xyc0taz: some people, not me of course, use a keygen12:45
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patient0hacked`: module-assistant is good for that.12:45
Xyc0rotten people who have no money to spend on progams that should be free12:46
ptlotaz: there's also cdrecord (commandline tool) with frontends xcdroast (rather old but works nicely) and k3b (kde-based) - all of it free12:46
zerboxxXyc0: Where should downloaded skins go for VLC?12:47
hacked``patient0, can you elaborate on that i have no idea what that is12:47
Xyc0zerboxx: ya know, I kinda like the gnome one.  So I never tried installing skins on Ubuntu12:47
zerboxxXyc0: Ok, cool12:47
Xyc0zerboxx: there are some really cool ones tho12:48
patient0hacked`: It's a program that downloads, builds and installs drivers.12:48
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patient0apt-get install module-assistant12:48
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ColonelKernelI am unable to force 1024x768 to run at 10hz. Can anyone please help me force this. This seems exceedingly difficult in ubuntu12:49
ColonelKernel100hz i mean12:49
ColonelKernelno matter what I do I cannot get more than 80hz out of 1024x768 in ubuntu12:50
frank_ColonelKernel: put high values in the Horz and Vert sections of the Monito section12:50
ColonelKerneli used gtf to generate a modeline12:50
Xyc0patient0: Do you run module-assistant from terminal?12:50
ColonelKernelfrank_, I did12:50
ColonelKernelnothing I do seems to make any difference12:50
hacked``guys, how can i set the root passwd12:50
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frank_can you actually see the difference between 80 and 100?12:50
Toba2012:50
ColonelKernelyes12:51
patient0Xyc0: Yes.12:51
ColonelKernelbrb12:51
Xyc0patient0: what command?12:51
patient0module-assistant or m-a12:51
pdgcould anyone give me a hint why the NVidia support doesn't work at my Ubuntu?12:51
patient0You have to be root though.12:51
frank_pdg how did you install the driver?12:52
Xyc0rgr12:52
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patient0pdg: What have you installed for NVidia support?12:52
ColonelKernelnope, still unable to break 85hz12:52
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pdgfrank_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx et al.12:52
pdgsudo nvidia-glx-config enable12:52
pdgetc12:52
frank_yeah12:52
frank_then restart X12:53
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pdgdone several times :)12:53
frank_what happens?12:53
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pdgI see the nvidia logo, but applications don't use acceleration12:53
pdgglxgears runs at 5 fps12:53
Xyc0Control-Alt-Backspace12:53
Sputn1kWhy i cant open mp3?12:53
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patient0You need the NVidia driver as well as nvidia-glx.12:53
ColonelKernelUGH12:54
Xyc0Sputn1k: What program are you using to open them with?12:54
Sputn1kXMMS12:54
ColonelKernelno luck at all.12:54
frank_nvidia-glx is the driver12:54
paxsudo nvidia-glx-config enable12:54
pdguh, yeah... I have that too, patient012:54
pdgoh12:54
pdgI meant the kernel modules12:54
macroexpI have some quetions about xprint and mozilla/firefox12:54
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macroexpthe mozilla build is xprint-enabled, firefox build is not12:54
frank_pdg what does glxinfo | grep direct give you?12:54
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patient0nvidia-glx isn't the driver.12:54
Xyc0Sputn1k: what heppens when you play mp3's?12:55
pdglemmesee12:55
Xyc0patient0: yes it is12:55
Sputn1knothing :)12:55
Sputn1kxmms crash12:55
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macroexpwithout xprint, firefox can't print to my printer (some postscript version error - has to do with freetype2 printing hoohah)12:55
pdgfrank_: direct rendering: Yes12:55
patient0It doesn't install any kernel module I mean.12:55
macroexpand the xprint distribution is also broken - it doesn't pick up any printers from cups12:55
funkyHatSputn1k, change the output plugin to eSound12:55
frank_pdg well technically you are hardware accelerated!12:55
Xyc0Sputn1k: in preferances, change the audio output to something different, like Esound, then try12:55
Sputn1kok thx12:56
Xyc0patient0: then what does?12:56
pdgfrank_: I know, and that's the weird part! Depending on the moon phase it works or it doesn't!12:56
pdgright now it doesn't12:56
frank_patient0: yes it does through linux-restricted-modules12:56
patient0I used module-assistant, there's probably a binary package though for the stock kernels.12:56
patient0Yeah that's the one.12:56
macroexpi'm running with the mozilla build and a stock .tar.gz distribution of xprint, but it seems really sad that i have to jump through hoops just to print a webpage12:57
pdgfrank_: could that be a hardware problem?12:57
frank_pdg: what card do you have?12:57
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pdgGeForce FX 590012:57
Xyc0eeewww12:57
Xyc0sorry12:57
Xyc0ignore that12:57
Guest_545Hey, I'm installing Ubuntu for the first time and having some problems.12:57
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Guest_545I'm going to try it again, but basically, it got to one part where it was installing additional components, and it would skip.12:58
Xyc0Guest_545: Well hey, perhaps we can help12:58
frank_pdg I have a very similar card and it worked for me. Did you actually try a 3d game>12:58
Sputn1ktnx, now everything works12:58
pdgblender, for example12:58
Guest_545It would say, "Installing additinional components", then it would go to 112:58
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pdgit's painful12:58
Guest_545It would say, "Installing additinional components", then it would go to 1%.12:58
Xyc0Sputn1k: surething12:58
Guest_545Then the screen would go black and it would loop.12:58
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tazXyc0, then i go for nero ;)12:58
frank_pdg: and it works well in windows?12:58
abuniccan some one help me I am trying to install HOMM3 for linux X86 and I get this message "This installation doesn't support glibc-2.1 on x86"12:58
stodgeHi folks. Is wxpython on Hoary built with opengl support?12:58
pdgfrank_: I have no windows12:58
frank_pdg did you connect the power cable?12:59
Xyc0taz: did you find where to download it?12:59
pdgfrank_: :)12:59
Guest_545Well, Xyc0? Or anyone else?12:59
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pdgfrank_: I'm sorry, was that a serious question?12:59
tazXyc0, nope..12:59
Xyc0Guest_545: Did you give ubuntu enought disk space?12:59
frank_pdg: well I forgot it once!12:59
taz:D12:59
pdghehe12:59
Guest_545Uhh.. I figured it could format Windows for me. :p01:00
Guest_545How much space does it need?01:00
Xyc0taz: http://www.nero.com/en/NeroLINUX.html01:00
Xyc0about 5 gig with everything installed01:00
frank_I dont't know maybe you need some special option in xorg.conf01:01
Guest_545Jesus Christ. That's massive. I was installing it on my shitty laptop.01:01
macroexphas anyone ever tried printing a webpage, in firefox, to a postscript printer? (hoary)01:01
pdgfrank_: I'm going to turn this off and check for loosely plugged cards01:01
Guest_545Only like 3 GB of HD space.01:01
pdgbrb, and thanks a lot01:01
frank_np01:01
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Guest_545Are you SURE 5 GB? Even Windows XP isn't that huge.01:01
Xyc0Guest_545: it only needs 2 gig for strait install01:01
Xyc0XP is 10 gig01:01
Guest_545Oh, okay.. I figured..01:01
vaderGuest: I am using it on a 4 gig hard drive on my p1 23301:01
tazXyc0, thx :)01:01
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Guest_545No, XP isn't 10 gig. That's impossible. Because when I reformatted my PC and reinstalled XP, it only took up a few GB.01:01
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abunicwhat printer?01:02
macroexphp 4050tn01:02
michi_lnxhi01:02
Guest_545BRB. Gonna try to reinstall.01:02
funkyHatGuest_545, it should run fine on 3GB01:02
Guest_545k01:02
Xyc0Guest_545: Did you install office, and anti virus, and winamp as well?01:02
funkyHatinstall at least ;)01:02
abunicI can print web pages on my epson 777 color01:02
Guest_545No. But those aren't standard.01:02
Xyc05 gig i everything, not just the OS01:02
Xyc0is*01:02
Guest_545They aren't even included with XP.01:02
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tazbtw.. isent .iso and .img the same format just different name?01:02
Xyc02 gig for strait install01:03
Guest_545Anyway, AFK. Gonna try to reinstall Ubuntu after reformatting.01:03
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vaderall I did was the base install and it seams to be working good: even using xfce401:03
macroexpthat's going through some sort of converter type thing to convert to epson 777 print code01:03
ateveshow can i change ubuntu's language after install?01:03
Xyc0Damn kids and their drugs, didn't even wait for me to explain before having a coniption fit01:03
michi_lnxcan anyboby give me a advice how to connect 2 linux pcs in a home network for file transfer01:03
VjazIs there any other way to add folders to my "Locations" menu than in a file dialog?01:03
abunicya the drivers came with ubuntu01:03
Xyc0michi_lnx: samba and smb01:03
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Xyc0michi_lnx: install both of them through synaptic01:04
abunicIm guessing something is messed in the conf of your printer01:04
michi_lnxi thought samba is for win - linux connections01:04
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tazXyc0, ok.. now that i have the .deb package.. something i should think of?01:04
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Xyc0michi_lnx: it works on lin lin connnections01:04
michi_lnxok, thanks01:04
Xyc0taz: what do you mean?01:04
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tazXyc0, when i have downloaded nero.. is it ok to install .deb packages? cause i guess they do "fit"?01:05
liroth_Xyc0, did samba work on win - lin connections too?01:05
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Xyc0taz: Yea01:05
abuniccause I havnt set one up but you have to configure manually unless you just chosed the generic driver. in which case I think you can tweak it01:05
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Xyc0liroth_: yes, it works great on anynetwork01:06
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Xyc0taz: sudo dpkg -i nerolinuxwhaterver.deb01:06
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Xyc0taz: make sure you cd to the directory you downloaded it to01:06
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tazXyc0, thx :)01:08
ateveshow can i change ubuntu's language after install?01:08
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pippijnhi all01:08
pippijnis it easy to set up an nfs server on ubuntu?01:09
taz(Reading database ... 64653 files and directories currently installed.)01:10
tazUnpacking nerolinux (from nerolinux-2.0.0.2-x86.deb) ...01:10
tazdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of nerolinux:01:10
taz nerolinux depends on libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0); however:01:10
taz  Package libglib1.2 is not installed.01:10
taz nerolinux depends on libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4); however:01:10
taz  Package libgtk1.2 is not installed.01:10
tazdpkg: error processing nerolinux (--install):01:10
taz dependency problems - leaving unconfigured01:10
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tazErrors were encountered while processing:01:10
taz nerolinux01:10
tazhmm.. did you guys see those lines?? . .. :-/01:10
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funkyHatyep01:10
misfit_toytaz, yes01:10
tazcrap... ok01:11
tazXyc0, they were for you.. :)01:11
JingleBellshi, for some reason, all URLs I open in XChat are opening in epiphany rather than firefox, how do I change this?01:11
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funkyHattaz, try installing the package it wants ;)01:11
tazyeah01:11
funkyHatthrough apt or whatever01:11
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Xyc0taz: Please, PLease don't paste in the channel01:11
jpguys, how can I order my mails accoutns mail at evo? Somethign like this: http://www.gnomejournal.org/images/30.png an style of: > me@me.com01:11
Xyc0taz: use pastebin.com01:12
tazXyc0, it was in a /msg for you.. i dont know why it got pasted in the channel for..01:12
tazfirst line got sent to you.. the rest in the channel.. lol01:12
KB2000JingleBells: if you get that working, please tell me... i have the same problem... :)01:12
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Xyc0taz: no worries, just paste bin it so I can read it01:13
plutonium83Are chinese localization packs available for ubuntu?01:13
jpguys, how can I order my mails accoutns mail at evo? Somethign like this: http://www.gnomejournal.org/images/30.png an style of: > me@me.com01:13
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JingleBellsfirefox windows has a nice "Set this browser as default" option, its not in the lunix version :|01:13
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KB2000JingleBells: actually i got mine to open in firefox if i right-click and say "open in web browser"... but i'd like it to open the browser on a left-click :)01:14
The_Voxnext time I hear somebody complain about how hard it is to install linux, I'm gonna make him/her install XP on a bare box...damn stupid OS01:14
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huttanHello, does anyone here know how to get a wireless netgear WG511T NIC working on a laptop??01:14
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funkyHatJingleBells, the option is in system > Preferences > Preferred applications01:15
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JingleBellshmm, its set as mozilla-firefox there01:15
JingleBellsbut links in XChat are opening epiphany :|01:15
bimberiJingleBells, KB2000: Have a look at Settings -> Advanced -> URL Handlers... (in XChat)01:15
plutonium83Are chinese localization packs available for ubuntu?01:15
jpguys, how can I order my mails accoutns mail at evo? Somethign like this: http://www.gnomejournal.org/images/30.png an style of: > me@me.com01:16
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hacked`-guys, im trying to dowload kismet off synaptic, but its not finding it01:16
hacked`-what the hell is that01:16
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JingleBells!sensible-browser '%s'01:16
ubotuJingleBells: Are you smoking crack?01:16
JingleBellswtf is sensible browser01:16
Guest_545Hey, anyone here know of a way to format Windows 98 OTHER THAN using a Windows boot-disk?01:16
Guest_545Is there a boot-disk I can download online, to format it?01:17
HrdwrBoBJingleBells: it's a symlink to the default browser01:17
macroexpmkfs.vfat01:17
Guest_545Because I can't find my Win 98 boot disk and I can't run the Win XP boot disk because the laptop only has 32 MB of RAM.01:17
KB2000bimberi: i'm at the same spot... i can right-click and say "open in web browser", but i can't left-click it to make it open in the browser...01:17
visorGuest_545: cfdisk is easy to use01:17
Xyc0Guest_545: Ubuntu can format over Windows 9801:17
JingleBells? ubotu?01:17
hacked`-guys, im trying to dowload kismet off synaptic, but its not finding it01:17
vaderGuest: try boot disk.com if you want to01:17
Guest_545Xyc0, are you sure? How do I set it to format before installing?01:17
bimberiKB2000: I reckon it's something to do with those settings01:18
Guest_545I remember seeing something in the beginning, about advanced options.. or something.. Nevermind. BRB. I'll try it.01:18
bimberiJingleBells: ubotu is a bot - responds to commands beginning with ! (as well as its name)01:18
tazXyc0, it installed ok now after i added the packages... hmm do i need to add it to the desktop manually or will i find it somewhere?01:18
JingleBellsi see01:18
Xyc0Guest_545: When you boot from the Ubuntu disk, it will ask you if it is ok to format over the disk01:18
Oompayay! Did my first compile :D01:19
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JingleBellsbeing a complete linux noob, how do you see where a symlink goes, i know ln makes them01:19
snouptcss!info bonobo01:19
ubotubonobo: (The GNOME Bonobo System.), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.22-2.2 (hoary), Packaged size: 233 kB, Installed size: 1308 kB01:19
HrdwrBoBJingleBells: ls -l01:19
Xyc0taz: IM prettu sure it is in Sound & Video or Acessories01:19
snouptcss!bonobo01:19
ubotusnouptcss: I give up, what is it?01:19
HrdwrBoBor in nautilus, right click properties01:19
devnullwhere can i find older versions of gcc in deb package format ?01:19
tazXyc0, hmm nopes :)01:20
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KB2000bimberi: i don't think xchat is able to do it with a left-click... :(01:20
Xyc0did you restart gnome-panel?01:20
tazXyc0, nope :_/01:20
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Xyc0taz: sudo killall gnome-panel01:20
tazXyc0, you are my hero! :)01:21
Xyc0:D01:21
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bimberiKB2000: I'm experimenting with moving the FireFox stuff to the top to see if that works01:21
tazhero/nero.. ;)01:21
Xyc0he he, nero burned down rome01:21
taz:D01:22
bimberiKB2000: ... and it doesn't :(01:22
Guest_545Guest 545, I booted from the Ubuntu disk and it never DID ask me that.01:22
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Guest_545Er, I mean Xyc0.01:22
KB2000bimberi: :(01:22
Guest_545Xyc0, it never asks that.01:22
jpguys, how can I order my mails accoutns mail at evo? Somethign like this: http://www.gnomejournal.org/images/30.png an style of: > me@me.com01:23
jpPLEASE!01:23
HrdwrBoBjp: I think you'll find that might be because it's an imap account01:23
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jpthis is the ubuntu users channel!01:23
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HrdwrBoBif you're talking about where is says 'jorge@gnomejournal.com01:23
jpyepo01:23
JingleBellsah tis fixed thanks to a google01:23
Xyc0Guest_545: explain to me what happens when you boot from Ubuntu disk01:23
jpI want to organaze thus my accoutn HrdwrBoB01:23
JingleBells"sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser"01:24
HrdwrBoBjp: for basic filtering you just need to create folders01:24
tazWho of you in here were already running NeroLinux?01:24
HrdwrBoBand use the filters01:24
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Guest_545The Ubuntu screen pops up, and it tells me it's installing. And it says either type "server" for the base installation or press enter for the default installation.01:24
FreedomzenOk I have a question I tried to install breezy and apparently it is borked.... I am currently Downloading Hoary I am wondering will my install go well or is there trouble on the horizen01:24
Guest_545If I press enter and do the default installation, it does what I said before... It does a crash loop when it starts installing additional components. And it never formats the HD.01:25
jpHrdwrBoB I created, but I only can create a subfolder of > On this computer... not a folder like 'jorge@gnomejournal.com01:25
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jp:(01:25
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HrdwrBoBjp: because that's an IMAP account01:25
HrdwrBoBand thus it's not "on this computer"01:25
jpHrdwrBoB cool!01:26
Xyc0Guest_545: It does not install anything untill you tell it too, something else is wrong01:26
_mikeanyone run into problems in grub installing a new kernel?01:26
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jpHrdwrBoB I'm enabling my imap accoutn to try. thanks dude!01:26
jp:D01:26
HrdwrBoBjp: no worries :)01:26
jpHrdwrBoB I didn't know it :(01:26
oompaHow do I add applications to the gnome panel?01:26
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Guest_545No, it didn't. What I said---it says it's an Ubuntu installer, then it asks me to press enter for the default installation.01:26
Guest_545The problem, I think, is what you said before. It's installing, but not formatting the HD first.01:27
_mikehas anyone here installed a new kernel?01:27
Guest_545So, there's no space.01:27
vader_mike: not me01:27
Guest_545BRB. Gonna try to use a DOS boot-disk to format the HD, then use the Ubuntu CD.01:27
Xyc0Guest_545: Does it ask you for the keyboard language?01:27
Xyc0Guest_545: Dont01:27
Guest_545Eventually, yes.01:27
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cyberixX stoped working in my Breezy01:27
Xyc0Guest_545: THen what after the language?01:27
Guest_545Don't worry. It's my crappy laptop, not my main computer.01:27
HrdwrBoB_mike: yes... you just use apt-get to install it :)01:27
HrdwrBoBcyberix: yes it did01:28
Guest_545After that, it starts to instal.01:28
funkyHatGuest_545, the ubuntu installer will format the disk for you, choose 'use entire disk'01:28
HrdwrBoBcyberix: breezy X is broken.01:28
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FreedomzenOk I have a question I tried to install breezy and apparently it is borked.... I am currently Downloading Hoary I am wondering will my install go well or is there trouble on the horizen01:28
Guest_545That never happened.01:28
HrdwrBoB_mike: what do you want to work with your kernel01:28
oompaAnyone? How do I add applications to The Gnome Panel? Like Applications>Internet01:28
fortysixand2what would stop ndiswrapper from associating with an AP?01:28
_mikehrdwrbob i've done all the hard stuff, im stuck in grub01:28
Xyc0Freedomzen: Breezy is not finished01:28
cyberixHrdwrBoB: Damn.01:28
Guest_545FunkyHat, also---the laptop only had 32 MB of memory. Ubuntu says that it has to run in "low memory" mode or something like that.01:28
jpHrdwrBoB that worked so cool dude thanks!! :D01:28
KB2000Freedomzen: breezy has a known problem with X... it will work before it goes stable01:28
HrdwrBoBjp: good to hear!01:28
_mikethe configuration line kernel /boot/bzImage-2.6.12_301:28
Xyc0Freedomzen: hoary is stable01:28
_mikeapparently01:28
Freedomzenok so hoary should install fine01:28
cyberixHrdwrBoB: "Next time I will stay with stable."01:29
Razor-Xuggghhhh, why in the world would the maintainers try and make the name of ruby ``ruby1.8''01:29
KB2000Freedomzen: yep01:29
_mikethe files not found01:29
Razor-Xaggravating01:29
Freedomzenok good01:29
HrdwrBoB_mike: how have you built the kernel?01:29
funkyHati don't have any experience using low memory mode....01:29
HrdwrBoBcyberix: good choice :)01:29
cyberixHrdwrBoB: "I will never more drink alcohol."01:29
Razor-XI have my own alias, but, other programs are totally messing up01:29
oompaanyone?01:29
_mikeeven though bzimage-2.6.12_3 IS in /boot01:29
Freedomzenneed something easy and stable for my HP Laptop01:29
_mikehow?01:29
_mikefrom source01:29
Xyc0Guest_545: ah, yea... Ubuntu does need a bit more then just 32 megs01:29
cyberixHrdwrBoB: :-P01:29
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fortysixand2I got the module loaded in the kernel, and I can ifconfig wlan0 and set the IP address01:29
Razor-Xand so, i'm gonna try and make a symbolic link to it01:29
Freedomzenanyone here run Ubuntu on their Laptop?01:29
fortysixand2but iwconfig will NOT let me set the AP01:29
Xyc0Guest_545: you might want to try Puppy Linux or Ubuntu with out Gnome or KDE01:29
_mikehrdwrbob i configured, and installed the kernel from source01:29
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KB2000Freedomzen: i do01:29
Guest_545No, Xyc0, according to the installer, it doesn't need more than 32 MB. It just says that I need to make... uh... I forget the word.01:30
HrdwrBoB_mike: why?01:30
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FreedomzenKB2000, wireless and all?01:30
tazi must say.. so far of what i have tested with Ubuntu .. its a really easy system to work with!! Very user firendly!! I run it both as server (web server) and as a client...01:30
KB2000Freedomzen: yep01:30
Guest_545The word for emulated RAM.01:30
Freedomzencool01:30
_miketo learn01:30
Guest_545In Windows, it's the pagefile.01:30
cyberixHrdwrBoB: Was this intentional? Is there any bets on when it might work again?01:30
funkyHatGuest_545, swap01:30
tazSwap area..01:30
Guest_545That's the word.01:30
Guest_545It says that it can install, but I need to make a swap area soon.01:30
KB2000Freedomzen: i'm having trouble with my flash card reader on my medion md41300, but it seems that nobody has gotten it to work on any linux yet...01:30
Xyc0Freedomzen: You just need to know what hardware you are using inorder for us to help you set it up01:30
Razor-XOMFG, and the ln doesen't work01:30
KB2000Freedomzen: but that's it... it works perfectly01:30
_mikenext time now that i know what goes on ill use apt hrdwrbob. but, got any ideas about my problem?01:31
HrdwrBoBcyberix: it should work again .. ASAP of course01:31
Razor-Xstupid maintainers!01:31
HrdwrBoB_mike: ahh ok01:31
HrdwrBoBwell to put it in grub01:31
bimberioompa: You can install a menu editor - search for "smeg" in synaptic01:31
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tazgoing to bed now.. nite nite ppl! and thx for all the help..01:31
Guest_545Anyway, I'm gonna format using a DOS bootdisk. Don't worry, it's not my main PC. And if it doesn't work, I can always re-download Windows XP and a crack from bittorrent.01:31
_mikewith the grub file "not finding" my kernel image, even though the i have the right path down01:31
surfdueok01:31
_mike?01:31
surfdueplease help01:31
jpHrdwrBoB, http://www.freepgs.com/straight/evo-is-cool!.png =)01:31
_mikeits driving me crazy01:31
surfduehow do i actiave s-video out01:31
HrdwrBoBjust follow the format of the other entries in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file01:31
oompaDoes anyone know how to add programs to the applications panel in Gnome? Like Applications>Internet>NewProgram.01:31
Guest_545...Er... Or Windows 98, rather.01:31
FreedomzenXyc0, I know that I have put Ubuntu on My main Desktop but Switched to Arch but I want something a little more maintainable on my Lappy01:31
bimberioompa: You can install a menu editor - search for "smeg" in synaptic01:31
cyberixHrdwrBoB: Ok. Great. These are the times I love having the Hoary live cd.01:32
cyberix:-)01:32
Xyc0surfdue: what video card?01:32
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KB2000live cds are truly sent from heaven ;)01:32
HrdwrBoBjp: looks goog01:32
oompabimberi: How do I start up synaptic? I believe it comes with Ubuntu doesn't it?01:32
HrdwrBoBgood01:32
fortysixand2I can set the key too, which is really weird01:32
_mikehrdwrbob, so im guessing you dont know whats up with that grub config line?01:32
Razor-X_mike: can I see too?01:32
bimberioompa: yes indeed - system -> administration -> synaptic package manager :)01:32
HrdwrBoB_mike: so you've made one and it doesn't work?01:33
oompabimberi: thanks01:33
surfdueXyc0,: i have a S3 Savage/MX (v7.10.08; 12-28-1999; 981K)01:33
HrdwrBoBif so, paste it01:33
surfduesome laptop card01:33
bimberioompa: yw :)01:33
Razor-Xbimberi: there's a reason Windows has a ``desktop'', not everybody has the patience to navigate menus XD01:33
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_mikerazor-X, well the line in grubs menu.lst that grub is having problem with is:kernel  /boot/bzImage-2.6.12_3 ro root=/dev/hda101:33
_mikeERROR:15 file not found. claims that /boot/bzImage-2.6.12_3 isnt' there01:34
_mikeeven though the file path is correct01:34
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huttanHello, does anyone here know how to get a wireless netgear WG511T NIC working on a laptop??01:34
Razor-X_mike: you have a bzImage?01:34
Razor-Xnot vmlinuz as a kernel?01:34
HrdwrBoB_mike: what  do all the other lines look like01:34
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Razor-X(or am I just behind *shrugs* haven't updated my kernel in a bit)01:35
_mikemike@skynet:/boot$ ls01:35
_mikebzImage-2.6.12_3         initrd.img-2.6.12_3  System.map-2.6.10-5-38601:35
_mikeconfig-2.6.10-5-386      lost+found           System.map-2.6.12_301:35
_mikegrub                     memtest86+.bin       vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-38601:35
_mikeinitrd.img-2.6.10-5-386  System.map01:35
_mikemike@skynet:/boot$01:35
_mikeoops01:35
Razor-Xuse vmlinuz01:35
Razor-Xthat's the kernel01:35
_mikewell, that is the contents of my /boot file and as you can see bzImage-2.6.12_3 is there01:35
_mikehowever, grub seems to think its not01:35
HrdwrBoB_mike: no, in grub01:35
michi_lnxhas anyone of you expierences with powernowd01:35
michi_lnx01:35
michi_lnx?01:35
_mikeshould i send it all right now?01:35
surfdueanyone?01:36
_mikewoudln't want to flood or anything01:36
surfdueplease?01:36
Razor-XHrdwrBoB: I know I don't often ask for help, but, is it possible to symlink programs in /usr/bin to a non-existant program?01:36
surfduebig help please, s-video out how do i activate it01:36
_mikehrdwrbob, razor-x here it is01:36
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_miketitle           Ubuntu Test-Kernel 2.6.12_3-38601:36
_mikeroot            (hd0,4)01:36
_mikekernel          /boot/bzImage-2.6.12_3 root=/dev/hda1 ro01:36
_mikeinitrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12_301:36
HrdwrBoBRazor-X: why would you need to do that01:36
Razor-X_mike: use pastebin next time01:36
michi_lnxhow can i tell powernowd to use MY settings01:36
Razor-XHrdwrBoB: simple, really01:37
_mikealright, didn't know bout that01:37
HrdwrBoB_mike: past your whole grub config file on pastebin01:37
VelcanWhen adding apps to session startup is there a way to specify which workspace you would like it to open on?01:37
vaderbbl dinner time01:37
Razor-Xthe maintainers for the debian/ubuntu ruby package append a ``1.8'' on the Ruby binary packages01:37
Razor-X(stuff like ri, and irb)01:37
HrdwrBoBVelcan: I don't believe so01:37
_mikehrdwrbob, pastebin? never used it before. im using Konversation01:37
surfdueanyone dang?01:37
surfduecan someone tell me were 2 get help01:37
Razor-Xbut, emacs, that has its own compile support, can't find the file ``ruby''01:38
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HrdwrBoB_mike: pastebin.com01:38
Xyc0surfdue: You need to install the drivers for S3 Savage/MX01:38
HrdwrBoBhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:38
Razor-XI have an alias, but, emacs is probably linking straight to the thing01:38
surfduehow Xyc001:38
Razor-Xand so, I need to symlink ruby1.8 to ruby01:38
Razor-Xor, make my own macro, but that's no fun01:38
Xyc0surfdue: I honestly don't know.  I would Google "S3 Savage/MX xorg drivers"01:39
HrdwrBoBok01:39
HrdwrBoBwell just run which ruby01:39
hacked`-guys, how does svn work01:39
HrdwrBoBto find ruby01:39
Razor-XHrdwrBoB: there _is_ no ruby binary01:39
Razor-Xthere's ruby1.801:39
HrdwrBoBand then ln -s /usr/bin/ruby1.8 /path/to/ruby01:39
_mikehrdwrbob http://pastebin.com/31745501:39
HrdwrBoBah01:39
Razor-Xexactly01:39
Razor-Xtherein lies the problem01:39
HrdwrBoBjust link it then01:39
Razor-XI was thinking of making a dummy file01:39
Razor-Xlike sudo echo e > /usr/bin/ruby01:40
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HrdwrBoB_mike: remove the /boot01:40
_mikelink to what? ln -s ...?01:40
Razor-Xand then ln -s /usr/bin/ruby1.8 /usr/bin/ruby01:40
HrdwrBoB_mike: look at all the other entries01:40
_mikealrighty01:40
Razor-X_mike: this is my problem ;)01:40
HrdwrBoBRazor-X: yes01:40
Razor-Xbut, then, the echo e returns a permission error01:40
Razor-Xeven if I prepend sudo01:40
HrdwrBoBRazor-X: yes01:40
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_mikei noticed the difference, hrdwrbob, i removed boot didn't work so i added it back in. on the kernel line i notice how it was diffenet but didn't know how to make it the same format01:40
HrdwrBoBtry echo e| sudo  tee /usr/bin/ruby01:40
Razor-Xok01:41
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Razor-Xis /usr/bin locked from normal writing?01:41
dupshas anyone had any problems after upgrading firefox?  for some reason firefox crashes whenever I open certain pages, obviously some kinda fault ex: www.moviefone.com01:41
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surfduehttp://linux.com.hk/PenguinWeb/manpage.jsp?section=4&name=savage01:42
surfduehow do i get it?01:42
_mikehrdwrbob, if i remove /boot i dont think it will work because nothing is linked besidese initrd01:42
hacked`guys, whats the apt-get that i need to get gcc, gcc+, etc.01:42
HrdwrBoB_mike: ... remove the /boot01:42
nebularwhat would the root entry be for the 3rd partition on the first HD in the grub menu.lst? I've become confused by the documentation01:42
HrdwrBoBthat is the problem01:42
_mikejust did thta01:42
_mikereally?01:42
nebularam I correct in thinknig it's (hd0,2)?01:42
HrdwrBoBnebular: that's correct01:42
Razor-Xhacked`: sudo apt-get install build-essentials01:42
nebularHrdwrBoB: thanks much01:43
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hacked`razor-x, is there any way i can search apt-get01:43
Xyc0taz: Did you get my PM?01:43
_mikealright hdrwrbob, im going to reboot, if this works thanks a lot. and if it doesn't ill be back on. and thanks for the help so far01:43
Razor-Xhacked`: apt-cache search foo01:43
Razor-Xwhere foo is your search term01:43
abuniccan someone help me with installing Homm301:43
Freedomzenhacked`, build-essential01:43
hacked`cause it said E: COuldn't find package build-essentials01:43
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hacked`k01:44
gorothhello01:44
Razor-Xhacked`: you have to have your CD in01:44
hacked`k01:44
gorothi va problem with song :s01:44
Razor-Xit's on the CD, and your CDs should be part of the repos in your sources.list01:44
nikkiaabunic: most of the loki stuff is so terribly out of date it requires serious effort to even install, never mind run, these days :/01:44
SDFH_Linuxis firefox 1.06 on ubuntu servers?01:45
surfduesurfdue,01:45
seb128building01:45
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BurgundaviaSDFH_Linux, not yet01:45
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funkyHatSDFH_Linux, it won't be01:45
abunicI know I googled it and could find any understandable way to install it01:45
SDFH_Linuxno?01:46
SDFH_Linuxwhy?01:46
funkyHat1.0.3 will have the security patches applied01:46
abunicI just want to play that game it brings me back you know01:46
BurgundaviaSDFH_Linux, 1.0.6 will be available in breezy, and the fixes backported to hoary01:46
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oompaWhat's the delete command in terminal?01:46
frank_!firefox01:46
SDFH_Linuxok01:46
BurgundaviaSDFH_Linux, so you will be secure01:46
funkyHat!info firefox01:46
oompaAnyone?01:46
oompaI need the delete command in terminal.01:47
KB2000oompa: do you mean rm?01:47
funkyHatgeh... ubotu does different things now...01:47
oompayes that works kb200001:47
nikkiaabunic: about the best advice i can give, is hunt down the loki 'patches', usually, there is a updated installer that installs the patched version from the CD01:47
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nikkiaabunic: links to the patch ftps should be on loki's (defunct-ish) website, but even those are over 3 years old, and may well not run on new linux systems01:48
bimberi_!info firefox01:48
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dups!codecs01:48
ubotusomebody said codecs was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:48
KB2000oompa: do "man rm" to see which arguments to give it...01:48
abunicya I dont even think I am at that point in the install yet01:48
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abunicI got a message about the install not supporting glibc-2.1 on x8601:49
lcharly_i have a problem with my printer is hp 3320 USB and when i traying to configure when i run printing it siad The CUPS server could not be contacted01:49
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stodgeHas anyone built wxPython on Hoary?01:49
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KyralHooray!01:50
hacked`Hooray for Hoary ?01:50
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KyralI built Firefox 1.0.5 from the Breezy source :D01:50
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_mikeit work3d! im on my brand spankin new kernel01:51
_mikeeh01:51
_mikehowever i got some error and crap at boot up01:51
HrdwrBoByeah01:51
stodgeI'm getting a compile error, that I can't solve:    contrib/glcanvas/gtk/glcanvas_wrap.cpp:1568: error: `wxGLCanvas' undeclared01:51
HrdwrBoBbecause your kernel is not the same as the ubuntu kernel01:52
Razor-Xyou Firefox addicts are almost as bad as Harrpy Potter addicts ;)01:52
_mikeerrors aren't problems ;) stodge01:52
stodgeThey are to me :)01:52
funkyHatRazor-X, lol01:52
stodgeThe version of wxpython for Hoary is too old01:52
Razor-Xif a feature ``dies'', you'll comit suicide01:52
Razor-Xs/comit/commit/01:52
oompaRazor-X What about Firefox addicts that love Harry Potter? :P Like me01:52
VjazFirefox isn't really *that* good.01:52
Razor-Xif you want to be obsessed about something, be obsessed about Robert Jordan!01:52
_mikecould a misconfigured kernel make your RAM usage be a little funy?01:52
Razor-XVjaz: thanks for that bit of sense, now the rest of the channel needs to know that ;)01:53
Razor-Xor be obsessed about Star Wars01:53
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Razor-XfunkyHat: give me back my browser!01:53
_mikei'm using 243/249 and 3/957 of swap which seems a bit high on the RAM side01:53
_mike;(01:53
Razor-X_mike: how much RAM you have?01:53
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VjazOpera is better out of the box than Firefox.01:53
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_mike25601:53
funkyHatlmao, have it, i use firefox :P01:53
_mikeactually01:54
Razor-Xthe only thing I use Firefox for is when I feel like browsing, emacs style01:54
frank__mike: that's ok. Alot of ram is just cache anyways01:54
apokryphosOpera is better full-stop :P01:54
VjazIf you take extensions in to play, it gets more complicated.01:54
Razor-X_mike: a lot of the swap isn't used01:54
_mikeyea which is weird isn't razor-x?01:54
Razor-XVjaz: I have changed around some of my Opera as well01:54
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Razor-X_mike: no, it just sits in cache01:54
_mikeif i have only 64 mb free physical ram. shouldn't my swap be used more?01:54
funkyHatopera looks tacky, tbh01:54
Razor-X(I pronounce it ``cash-ay'' by the way, not ``cash'' like you CompSci people do ;)01:55
funkyHatespecially the dialogs01:55
apokryphosfunkyHat: err, you can't be serious, unless you're talking about a version three years ago01:55
_mikeinstead of 1% of it?:01:55
Razor-XfunkyHat: Opera's polish trumps Firefox01:55
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Razor-Xbimberi_: remember programming wars?01:55
frank__mike: no alot of the "used" ram isn't really used by programs01:55
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funkyHatwhy do all the dialogs have 2 borders?01:55
Razor-Xthey don't?01:55
bimberi_Razor-X: Of course! how could I forget :)01:56
apokryphosfunkyHat: when was the last time you used Opera?01:56
funkyHatthis morning01:56
funkyHatit was the first time i used it as well01:56
VjazWhich version?01:56
funkyHat8.0101:57
apokryphosfunkyHat: and you're seriously telling me it looks tacky? If that does then so does a Ferrari 8)01:57
apokryphosfunkyHat: the dialogues have one border01:57
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funkyHathehe. ok so there aren't really 2 borders, it looks odd though01:58
nikkiaapokryphos: i'd have to agree with him, it's UI is a BIT tacky01:58
Razor-Xhmmmm, in emacs, what's the variable for current filename?01:58
apokryphosnikkia: I put it down to that headache :P01:58
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apokryphosnikkia: I love Konqueror, but I really think Opera is the slickest-lookin' browser01:58
nikkiaRazor-X: there's a function, to get it i think, you have to pass in the buffer name01:58
oompahow do I install a .deb file?01:59
Razor-Xyou Firefox users talk about how IE is so stupid, but you sound just like IE users in your promotions01:59
nikkiaapokryphos: headache passed hours ago...01:59
Razor-Xnikkia: ahhhh, do you know it by heart?01:59
nikkiaapokryphos: opera uses ugly widgets, has non-consistant widget behaviour, etc01:59
Razor-Xone thing is, Opera users almost never advertise01:59
nikkiaRazor-X: not offhand, no01:59
Razor-Xnikkia: if you call QT widgets ugly... mmmkay ;001:59
bimberioompa: sudo dpkg -i <file>01:59
Razor-Xhmmm, #emacs then01:59
nikkiaRazor-X: if they're QT widgets, then i'm embarassed for trolltech :/02:00
oompabimberi: Thanks again for helping this linux n00b02:00
frank_Razor-X: well they can't advertise here since Opera isn't free02:00
bob2oompa: but in general, you don't do that directly, you let synaptic do it for you02:00
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bimberioompa: np :) - hope you're enjoying the experience02:00
nikkiaRazor-X: i have no issue with the main UI, its just the fugly preferences/etc02:00
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Razor-Xnikkia: I like my QT ;) and my KDE02:00
Razor-Xfrank_: there are no restrictions on advertising only free things02:00
gvrochadoes any1 knows how to get a touchpad to do the scrolling in a toshiba laptop?02:01
nikkiaRazor-X: so do i, but the widgets in the preferences for opera do NOT behave consistantly with other Qt widgets02:01
Razor-Xnikkia: well, they are common with a few other QT apps02:01
Razor-Xplus, you can skin Opera02:01
nikkiaRazor-X: again, the main UI is ok02:01
Razor-XI hate the Firefox default look, looks like bare metal, to me02:01
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KyralNow how do I get packages that I backported from Breezy into Backports?02:01
nikkiaits the preferences, which are not really overly affected by the skinning02:01
bimberioompa: yes - you should install using synaptic where possible02:02
Razor-XKyral: add in the backports to your sources.list? ;)02:02
snouptcssRazor-X: i have seen you advertising three times here02:02
Razor-Xsnouptcss: ok?02:02
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funkyHatRazor-X, i like bare metal :)02:03
Razor-Xprobably the only thing I advertise vehemently is LaTeX and emacs02:03
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KyralRazor-X, I meant packages that I myself backported02:03
Razor-XfunkyHat: ahhh, you can keep your bare metal ;)02:03
snouptcssRazor-X | one thing is, Opera users almost never advertise02:03
funkyHathehehe02:03
Razor-XKyral: where do you get your Breezy sources from?02:03
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Razor-Xsnouptcss: that was a declaration, I don't think containing the word ``Opera'' is an advertisement02:04
nikkiarazor, my biggest problem with opera, however, is that there is no host blocking ala adblock :/02:04
snouptcsssnouptcss = auk02:04
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KyralRazor-X,  the Breezy Source Repo02:04
Razor-Xnikkia: there is, IIRC02:04
nikkiarazor, that, coupled with its inability to correctly position flash/JS pop-overs, renders it painful02:04
Razor-XKyral: which is? ;)02:04
Kyraljust replace the Hoary deb-src with the Breezy deb-src02:04
Razor-Xnikkia: I disabled both, so, *shrugs*02:04
snouptcssrazor-x, no, tyhat statement was not advertising, but several others were02:04
nikkiaRazor-X: disabling JS isn't an option02:04
Razor-Xnikkia: it is in Opera02:05
nikkiaRazor-X: i mean for me02:05
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nikkiaRazor-X: my bank relies on it02:05
Razor-Xahhh, I see02:05
Razor-Xheh02:05
Razor-Xsnouptcss: ok?02:05
nikkiaaltho, in fairness, their page doesn't work with opera anyway02:05
snouptcssnikkia: disable it and turn iot bakc on when you go to your bank site?02:05
nikkiasnouptcss: urgh02:05
snouptcssyou can have a toolbar button02:06
apokryphosnikkia: sorry about that... family issues02:06
apokryphosnikkia: what exactly is ugly about the widgets? I quite like them :P02:06
nikkiasnouptcss: seriously, having to remember to turn on/off a feature because the browser authors can't introduce a nice feature to block hosts from running scripts by clicking on them once, isn't right02:06
Razor-Xapokryphos: it's a user choice, i'm guessing02:06
apokryphosde gustibus non est disputandum to a degree, I guess02:07
Razor-XFirefox skyrocketed because IE had a bad time, and all of the geek friends of IE users reccomended it, Opera's been around for ages, so the dust's kinda settled02:07
Razor-Xapokryphos: what language?02:07
nikkiaRazor-X: are you suggesting i'm a FF newbie that just jumped on the bandwagon ?02:07
Razor-Xnikkia: of course not02:07
apokryphosRazor-X: latin. "There's no arguing with tastess", basically02:07
snouptcssnikkia: 'by clicking on them once' ?02:08
nikkiai'll have you know i was using firefox since before it was called firefox :P02:08
Razor-Xi'm saying that's where the share came from02:08
Razor-Xnikkia: and so was I02:08
Razor-Xback when it was a browser called Phoenix02:08
VjazIsn't taste the only thing you *can* argue about?02:08
Razor-XIMO, Firefox lost sight of their goal after the hype and the final name change02:08
nikkiasnouptcss: i can block a whole domain's ****y .js/.swf ads with one click, and forget about it forever, with firefox :)02:08
apokryphosI was a huge firefox fan back in the day. Even when I saw Konqueror I disliked it quite a bit. Discovering Opera recently made me wonder just why it wasn't so popular.02:08
funkyHatnikkia, so were lots of us ;)02:08
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Razor-Xapokryphos: I need to memorize that statement02:08
apokryphosFf ran in and got the market02:08
nikkiai will grant that FF has gotten terrible lately tho02:09
Razor-XI was telling people "Change to Phoenix, change to Phoenix"02:09
Razor-Xand they're like "What kind of a bullshit thing is that?!" ;)02:09
funkyHatff deserved it more than opera to be fair, opera has shitty ads02:09
Razor-Xhahahaha, and now there's Spread Firefox02:09
snouptcssheh and bloat, bloat, bloat02:09
nikkiaRazor-X: then you had to tell them to switch to 'firebird' :)02:09
nikkiaRazor-X: and soon, they'll be changing their name again :)02:10
Razor-XfunkyHat: don't bring the "Free vs functionality" thing again02:10
Razor-Xnikkia: exactly02:10
Razor-X;)02:10
funkyHatheheh02:10
apokryphosOpera has some really cool plugins... like kill element. How useful is that for sucky banners :P02:10
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Razor-Xafter two milestones of Firefox, I jumped of the bandwagon02:10
HrdwrBoBoff02:10
Razor-Xahh, my bad!02:10
nikkiaapokryphos: eh? where? i've never seen these plugins!02:10
Razor-Xs/of/off/02:10
snouptcssrazor-x: no, free vs. ???, and functionality vs. functionality02:10
funkyHatapokryphos, or have adblock disable it in the first place?02:11
nikkiaapokryphos: if they'd make it more obvious somewhere that such things exist, i MIGHT be able to like it more :)02:11
Razor-Xuggghhh, #emacs is dead >_<02:11
snouptcssrazor-x: i thought you used emacs?02:11
Razor-Xsnouptcss: it's a sed expression02:11
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snouptcssah02:11
nikkiaRazor-X: i don't even have emacs installed atm, i recently switched to xemacs, otherwise i'd look up the function02:11
nikkiaRazor-X: hold on, i know where i can find the function name....02:12
Razor-Xnikkia: I was thinking of switching, but, I have too much stuff on my normal emacs02:12
nikkiai still have my .el files on my work machine, i'll vpn in and look02:12
Razor-Xkickass! ;)02:12
Razor-XRuby mode doesen't come with a compiler, how sad02:12
apokryphosnikkia: admittedly, I don't really know an organised resource for them, apart from a few basics. I discover a lot by accident. There might actually be a place, I just don't use Opera much. I still think it's great though ;-)02:12
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nikkiaRazor-X: (buffer-file-name)02:13
apokryphosfunkyHat: not sure how that works, but the kill element is more convenient for me. Only block stuff that I want to block, specifically -- and it only takes literally two clicks, so hey02:13
nikkiaand in my script, i strip out everything but the filename, with (file-name-nondirectory (buffer-file-name))02:13
Razor-Xnikkia: crazy!02:13
Razor-Xnow, to use my fledgeling elisp skills! ;)02:14
apokryphosRumour has it Opera is getting a built-in torrent client02:14
Razor-Xapokryphos: rumor's been confirmed02:14
nikkia(its a script that automatically adds #ifndef __H_BLAH_ / #define __H_BLAH_   / .... / #endif   to .h files :)02:14
Razor-Xoh, hah02:14
Razor-Xsee, emacs rawks ;)02:14
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Razor-Xi'm learning Ruby right now02:14
nikkiaRazor-X: yeah, i just wanted to give xemacs a try tho, and found a few things 'better'02:15
Razor-Xstill, i'm squandering too long on crap in my environment02:15
apokryphosRazor-X: oh, nice. Konqueror will kind of have that eventually with kget. Just wish it weren't so buggy at the mo ;-)02:15
Razor-Xapokryphos: hehe, yeah02:15
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Razor-Xin that sense, i'm a nut in my environment customization02:15
Razor-XI don't wanna leave emacs for nothing ;)02:15
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apokryphoshehe02:15
apokryphosIf it ain't broke, don't fix it 8)02:15
Razor-Xahhhh no!02:15
Razor-Xnot _that_ quote!02:16
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nikkiadoh, just realised we weren't in #k... :)02:16
Razor-Xthat is the quote I most abhor in all of the face of the Earth02:16
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diceshello everyone02:16
nikkiaapokryphos: stop confusing me !!02:16
Razor-Xnikkia: hahahaha!!!02:16
Kyralwee hoo! Compiling XChat 2.4.402:16
Razor-Xsomeone said that to me last time, I pushed him in our local body-of-water02:16
dicesI am trying to install Eclipse 3.1 is in universe, added universe to the rep list , but apt-get cant find eclipse-platform and the file is there, any ideas ?02:16
apokryphosnikkia: confusion is to be multiplied, not suppressed! *goes off skipping into the sunset*02:17
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Razor-Xdices: added multiverse?02:17
dicesyes02:17
dicesRazor-X yes02:17
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Razor-Xnot sure then02:17
Razor-X*shrugs* ;)02:17
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gpledanyone know of a program that can work with .ai files?02:17
apokryphosd'oh02:17
crimsundices, did you aptitude update first?02:17
funkyHatdices, apt-cache update02:18
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dicesfunkyhat: yes updated too02:19
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mebaran151what is the timeframe for fixing X on Breezy?02:19
crimsunmebaran151, When It's Done.02:19
mebaran151argh, I would like to use it, but I really do enjoy X02:19
crimsundices, I presume you're using Breezy?02:19
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Razor-Xnikkia: you there?02:19
dicescrimsum: hoary02:19
dicescrimsun: hoary02:19
mebaran151and the mono platform looks like  a good one to develop on02:19
crimsundices, it's only in Breezy02:19
nikkiayes?02:19
Razor-Xcan I PM you some stuff about emacs?02:19
apokryphosnikkia: ff your main browser these days, then?02:20
mebaran151crimsun, is the Ubuntu kernel set up to use inotify?02:20
nikkiaRazor-X: yeah02:20
Razor-XI should read the actual elisp book, but that comes after ruby02:20
mebaran151and all the cool things BEagle uses?02:20
Burgundaviamebaran151, X will be fixed for October 1302:20
Burgundaviamebaran151, yes02:20
nikkiaapokryphos: i split about evenly between FF, opera and konq atm, depending on task02:20
mebaran151neato02:20
crimsunmebaran151, for Breezy, yes02:20
mebaran151so it should Just Work (TM)02:20
mebaran151yeah02:20
nikkiaapokryphos: i almost always end up going back to FF solely tho02:20
mebaran151Breezy has working mono packages?02:20
apokryphos=)02:20
Burgundaviamebaran151, yes02:21
mebaran151for AMD64?02:21
Burgundaviathink so02:21
mebaran151have they uploaded E17 yet?02:21
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Burgundaviasomeone was working on it, no idea02:21
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dicescheck if you can install it eclipse-platform  is the name02:21
mebaran151I like my managers lightweight, but I prefer E17 to XFCE02:22
dicesE: Package eclipse-platform has no installation candidate02:22
mebaran151I am on XFCE right now02:22
mebaran151all though Rox Filer is pretty good; gnome should use it02:22
crimsundices, it's only in Breezy/universe02:22
benplautbut... but... no tree view?02:22
Burgundaviagnome will probably never use rox02:22
benplautyeah02:22
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mebaran151Burgundavia, pity02:22
benplautnautilus is too tightly integrated02:22
Burgundavianautlius got some major love for the next release02:23
mebaran151Rox does somethings just right; and I hate the whole nautilus open new window thing02:23
jeranAnyone know of a good mud client for use with Ubuntu? (I'm new to LInux)02:23
mebaran151Burgundavia, yeah?02:23
benplautmebaran: well, you can always disable spatial mode02:23
dicescrimsun i checked in hoary universe and i see it02:23
Burgundaviamebaran151, http://live.gnome.org/ReleasesNotes2p12Items02:23
mebaran151Burgundavia, when I check out the new Breezy (when it gets fixed) is the new nautilus there02:24
mebaran151I would love to help fix bugs02:24
BunZip2hi guys, sorry to bother you but i'm just interested in opendx image analisys system. Has anyone news or info about it? thank you02:24
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crimsundices, it does _not_ exist in Hoary/universe02:24
mebaran151but I cant take major bugs in X, as I need xwindows to work productively on anything02:24
crimsundices, see m/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=eclipse-platform&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all02:25
jeranHow do you check to see what is on the repositories?02:25
crimsundices, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=eclipse-platform&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all rather02:25
mebaran151why is sound juicer SO slow on my system02:25
mebaran151it rips at like 2.4 times while goobox is able to do it at around 3002:26
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mebaran151I like rhythmbox and would like to use goobox instead just for that02:26
jeranI think I broke Firefox....02:26
bimberijeran: synaptic provides an interface for the repositories that you have enabled.  Otherwise there's http://packages.ubuntu.com02:26
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nikkiamebaran151: is soundjuicer isn't cdparanoia ?02:27
jeranI tried to update firefox and when it got done it gave me an error and now i'm unable to load firefox.. what should I do?02:27
nikkiaisn't? that's supposed to be 'using'02:27
mebaran151nikkia, I wouldnt know02:27
mebaran151I think they both SHOULD use it02:28
mebaran151I mean cdparanoia is the definitive standard isnt it?02:28
nikkiamebaran151: a lot of rippers don't use it anymore02:28
nikkiawhich is a bit sad02:28
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mebaran151I wonder why not?02:28
mebaran151I know Goobox and Grip use it, and I prefer Goobox02:29
mebaran151Goobox should be integrated with rhythmbox instead of sound juicer02:29
nikkiai use kaudiocreator, and it doesn't use it :/02:29
mebaran151I just cant get goobox to rip mp3's02:29
mebaran151I think it is an amd64 thing, and I can only get gstreamer-mad02:29
nikkiamebaran151: my scariest linux memory is that of running cdparanoia once02:29
mebaran151hmmm?02:29
mebaran151it is an app that NEEDS a frontend02:30
bimberidices: How to install eclipse on hoary - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE02:30
nikkiaruntime was 18 days02:30
nikkiaamazingly, it managed to extract all but the last track of an album missing roughly 50% of the substrate02:30
nikkiagranted, it took 18 days to do that, but still, its amazing :)02:30
mebaran151nikkia, yep02:30
bimberidices: You'll need to install sun-j2sdk1.5 from backports02:30
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nikkia(one of the infamous first batch faith no more CDs :)02:31
gijoshHey.  What's the package for java support?  I have a friend who needs it.02:31
apokryphosnikkia: never had to rip a CD on Linux yet... what alternative apps are there?02:31
MrGardenHoseManhow do i change root's pass?02:31
nikkia(infamous, because they weren't sealed, the substrate rotted away after about 6 years)02:31
MrGardenHoseManmade the bloody thing too long02:31
MrGardenHoseMannow i get to ype it out every 5 minutes02:31
MrGardenHoseMantype*02:31
apokryphosMrGardenHoseMan: your sudo password?02:31
MrGardenHoseManyeah02:31
nikkiaapokryphos: lots, you don't even need to use one02:31
mebaran151anyone know of an mp3 encoder for gsteramer?02:32
nikkiaapokryphos: the kio for cd ripping is very impressive02:32
apokryphosMrGardenHoseMan: sudo username passwd I should think02:32
crimsungijosh, java-package in multiverse02:32
apokryphosnikkia: cool, thanks, I'll bear that in mind02:32
mebaran151apokryphos, goobox is REALLY nice02:32
nikkiaapokryphos: on a properly setup KDE, it'll offer MP3, Ogg, WAV and FLAC ripping by simply dragging the files02:32
mebaran151it even finds album art02:32
gijoshcrimsun: Thanks.02:32
nikkiaapokryphos: and fills in the relevant tag info on each format02:32
MrGardenHoseMannope that doesn't work02:33
apokryphosnikkia: nice, what does it use for that?02:33
nikkiaapokryphos: no idea02:33
apokryphosMrGardenHoseMan: whoop, sorry, sudo passwd username02:33
mebaran151apokryphos, I think FreeDB02:33
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nikkiaapokryphos: http://narch.1.vg/~nikki/kio.png02:34
apokryphosI recall RealPlayer being able to do that. amaroK uses musicbrainz for similar tag-completion, which seems decent too02:34
dam_im trying to follow instructions HERE - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AmericasArmy02:34
mebaran151mencoder is the best though02:35
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CrismoHi02:35
mebaran151at well anything except trying to use ogg with video02:35
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CrismoI have question02:35
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dam_i cant run - sudo ./armyops230-linux.run02:35
jeranHow do I use the Synaptic 'Smart Update' function??02:36
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apokryphosnikkia: loaded. Ah, looks nice; integrates with KDE -- excellent02:36
nikkiaapokryphos: exactly, just drag the files to a folder, and that's it02:36
mebaran151apokryphos, but what if you dont use KDE?02:36
CrismoSomeone can help me ?02:36
nikkiamebaran151: ah, but i know apokryphos does :)02:36
mebaran151all in all I think KDE is a better desktop though02:36
apokryphosmebaran151: who wouldn't? :P02:36
nikkiamebaran151: and it was apokryphos that asked :)02:36
BunZip2has anyone any idea if a package for opendx image analisys system is planned for hoary or breezy?02:36
CrismoI need help to install wine02:37
nikkiaapokryphos: i think i've solved my sound problems, btw...02:37
apokryphosnikkia: oh?02:37
nikkiaapokryphos: i just need to find a jack backend for arts :P02:37
mebaran151how good is Kate at syntax highlighting02:37
mebaran151and, how are the Ruby bindings in KDE02:37
apokryphosmebaran151: pretty excellent02:37
CrismoAnyone know how to install wine ?02:38
apokryphosnikkia: did you find out what was hogging the sound server?02:38
apokryphos!wine02:38
ubotuapokryphos: I don't know, could you explain it?02:38
apokryphoshm02:38
mebaran151apokryphos, looking02:38
mebaran151yep02:38
mebaran151they are nice02:38
nikkiaapokryphos: yes, arts had woken up *shrug*02:38
apokryphosCrismo: Open synaptic, install wine02:38
nikkiaapokryphos: i might just turn off arts, i don't really use it02:38
mebaran151I might be tempted to buy a Qt license02:39
apokryphosDon't really use aRts at all myself; xine solved most of my issues with amaroK's sound for me, and KDE sounds are real cool at first, but annoy me later.02:39
apokryphosnikkia: yeah, same.02:39
crafolbreezy is stable?02:39
Crismohow i did with terminal02:39
apokryphosCrismo: what? From terminal: sudo apt-get install wine02:39
apokryphoscrafol: no02:39
nikkiaapokryphos: have you seen that OSS now has an alsa emulation layer ? :)02:39
Proteque_how long does hoary plan to live?02:39
Crismoyes02:39
Crismoapokryphos02:40
Proteque_is it a good idea to use at a server?02:40
Crismooops02:40
crafolthk :D02:40
Proteque_or should I use debian?02:40
funkyHat6 months, as usual02:40
apokryphosnikkia: Nope. Wish I knew what that meant =)02:40
mebaran151but I believe I will be stuck in GTK for as long as a I work with WIndows02:40
Proteque_funkyHat: and then it is deprecated?02:40
nikkiaapokryphos: OSS == the old sound system on linux, a shareware thing02:40
Crismoapokryphos: yes02:40
apokryphosProteque_: officially supported for the 18 months. 6 months after its birth the next release comes in02:40
mebaran151I still prefer E1702:40
apokryphosnikkia: yup, knew that ;-)02:40
mebaran151unfortunately recompiling it from src is painful02:40
funkyHatum, that should be when breezy is released02:40
apokryphosProteque_: excellent as a server02:41
nikkiaapokryphos: then you should be able to work out what it meant :P02:41
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apokryphosnikkia: oh, I understand, I guess. How long ago did that happen?02:42
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Crismoapokryphos: when i go on Synaptic it say it installed02:42
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nikkiaapokryphos: couple of weeks02:42
Crismoapokryphos: do i need alot of ram to run wine ?02:42
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nikkiaapokryphos: they released the latest version after jwz's alsa rant, which was what? 3 weeks ago?02:42
bob2Proteque_: hoary will be supported until the end of 200602:42
apokryphosCrismo: how much do you have?02:42
atevesis there a way to hide too long foldernames on the gnome desktop02:42
ateves?02:43
Crismoapokryphos: 64mo02:43
bob2Proteque_: beyond that, paid support will be available02:43
Crismoapokryphos: that old pc02:43
apokryphosnikkia: I have no idea. Ignorant in the world of sound; just gimme my xine for amaroK and films and I'll be happy 8)02:43
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Tupladhello02:43
BunZip2hi Tuplad02:43
Proteque_apokryphos: bob2: okay. thanx02:43
apokryphosbob2: paid support is still available after 18 months? Oh, didn't know that..02:44
nikkiaapokryphos: my problem is, i need to use linux audio for both casual use (mp3s, aac, etc) and semi-pro style audio recording :/02:44
paxpaid support? Ubuntu is going MS way?02:44
TupladI just received 54 CD's of Ubuntu today :D02:44
bob2pax: er, no, of course not02:44
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apokryphospax: it's had it for some time02:44
Crismoapokryphos: is 64mo ram enought for wine ?02:44
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nikkiarats!02:44
TupladSome guy speaking German, Im glad I can speak Dutch so I understanded him atleast a little :D02:44
_mikeyo yo02:44
Burgundaviapax, not for the basica support02:44
apokryphosCrismo: depends on the program you're trying to run02:44
apokryphosnikkia: I see. What stuff do you do exactly? :)02:44
_mikecorrect me if i'm wrong but isn't cpp just a C compiler?02:44
Proteque_bob2: pay to supe apt reposities with updates then?02:44
Crismoapokryphos: first how to run wine ?02:44
nikkiajack's oss compatibility messes java up the same way aoss does :(02:44
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Agrajagcpp is the C preprocessor02:45
Crismoapokryphos: i want play at a games (t4c)02:45
Agrajagg++ is the c++ compiler02:45
Tupladthis new ubuntu is working perfect :]  even on Live CD02:45
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_mikealrightyyyy thanks02:45
apokryphosCrismo: wine works by creating a fake windows directory. It's in ~/.wine. To use it just run *.exe in wine, and go for it. What program are you trying to run?02:45
TupladIs Ubuntu for PUsers ?02:45
Crismoapokryphos: t4c it's game02:45
crazy2kWhat happens if I try to install Firefox with its installer rather than getting the Ubuntu package?02:45
Burgundaviacrazy2k, you can do that, but it is not recommended02:46
apokryphosCrismo: chances are generally slim that it'll work; smaller the program, the more likely though. But yeah, the above is the basic of it. Plenty of stuff on Google, btw02:46
Agrajagof you do that, you should prbably install it in /usr/local/ so it doesn't overwrite the installed version02:46
bob2Proteque_: I'm not sure how it will be handled, we're still 8 months away from even warty's free support running out :)02:46
crazy2kBurgundavia, I wouldn't do it but, unfortunately, there's no Spanish language pack in the repository.02:47
jeranI'm lost on what to do.. Synaptic Package Manager stopped responding and now I can't close it.. and Firefox isn't working anymore..02:47
paxanyone have a link to some reading material about paid support, I'd like to understand what is it about.02:47
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mebaran151jeran, killall synaptic02:47
mebaran151and killall firefox02:47
Crismoapokryphos: when i do search file ... and i search wine it only find picture or txt*02:47
mebaran151see if that fixes anything02:47
apokryphosCrismo: not sure what you mean...02:47
bob2pax: eh? it's just a way for people to get support on ancient versions the community long ago stoped caring for.02:47
bob2pax: support@ubuntu.com is the place to ask, aiui02:47
paxah ok.02:47
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mebaran151why are gstreamers so poor02:48
Crismoapokryphos: in principal menu there is programe to search file02:48
nikkiaapokryphos: no, i play guitar, bass and keyboard myself02:48
apokryphosCrismo: what are you looking for?02:48
bob2mebaran151: in what way?02:48
Crismoapokryphos: wine but it only find txt or picture02:48
Proteque_I guess it is easy to dist-upgrade betwean hoary and the next stable version?02:48
apokryphosnikkia: hey, who needs band members? Quite the musician; cool stuff. :)02:48
_mikeI'm trying to install nmap 3.81 and when i run make it exists because cpp: '-c'  is not a valid operation. i know i have to change something in the makefile. can anyone give me a an idea?02:48
apokryphosCrismo: the wine directory is in ~/.wine, I told you02:48
nikkiaapokryphos: and recently been playing with nyquist a lot :P02:48
airmikeyhi02:49
apokryphosCrismo: to run something with wine, right click on the .exe and then select there02:49
Crismoapokryphos:  how i can go there02:49
_mikeit thinks i have a certain c compiler whcih uses -c which i obviously do not02:49
Agrajag_mike: why are you installing from source, is the version in apt too old?02:49
Crismoapokryphos: ohhh02:49
apokryphosCrismo: you'll have to install it first, though02:49
bob2_mike: what does it do that 3.75 doesn't?02:49
Crismoapokryphos: now i understant02:49
Crismoapokryphos: understand* thx02:49
mebaran151bob2 in that they play most things so jerkily02:49
Crismoapokryphos: i'll try it02:49
BunZip2bye02:49
chillywillylalala02:49
Mobiusbye02:49
mebaran151even when I tell them to use ffmpeg02:49
apokryphosnikkia: 3 in our family our reasonable musicians, but mainly my dad, who's been playing in his leisure time for ages. Every few months or so he'll get an odd guitar-related instrument (from some country or other), and then start learning to play it02:50
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nikkiaapokryphos: *nod* that's cool02:50
bob2mebaran151: that wouldn't have anything to do with your input decoder02:50
jeranFirefox still won't load up..02:50
mebaran151no I mean just in general for playback; I normally use them for playback only02:50
Crismoapokryphos: i'll try it and tell you if it work :D02:50
mebaran151I usually encode with the vorbistools02:51
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mebaran151they seem to always have a bit of lag and jitter, at least on AMD6402:51
apokryphosnikkia: latest is the Turkish Baglama 8)02:51
_mikeagrajag, bob2, apt onlyh had 3.75 3.81 has is more accurate when it comes to 'filtered' ports, also comes iwth more fingerprints which means more service recognition02:51
_mikesome bug fixes also02:51
nikkiaanyway, bedtime for me02:51
Agrajagok02:52
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Agrajagso you did the usual ./configure && make right?02:52
apokryphosnikkia: 'night :)02:52
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jeranOkay.. The package update thing told me to use apt-get dist-upgrade.. but I can't download 114mb's for ALL the updates.. what should I do about that? Is there another way to update Firefox without that?02:52
Agrajagdid you install build-essential to get your compiler, maybe something's missing02:52
jeranoh, and that isn't just for firefox, it's ALL the updates I need..02:53
_mikeagrajag, do i just run apt-get install build-essential? or like make build-essential?02:53
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Agrajagapt-get install build-essential02:54
Agrajagwell, sudo apt-get install build-essential02:54
Agrajaganyway02:54
Agrajagdo that, see if it installs anything else, and try building nmap again02:54
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remyforbes777  where are ubuntu's startup scripts located02:55
remyforbes777init.d?02:56
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Guest_545Guest_545OK, back.02:56
Guest_545The people that were here before are probably gone, but I still have a problem.02:56
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_mikeill try that agrajag thanks02:56
hondjeremyforbes777: yes, /etc/init.d02:57
Guest_545I'm installing Ubuntu on my shitty laptop (not my main CPU), and it gets to a crash loop. I'm pretty sure I need the AMD version of Ubuntu, but I want to ask you first.02:57
supernixjust curious how is envolution is anyone still using it or is it defunct ?02:57
Guest_545My laptop's CPU is an AMD K-6 3D. I don't know if it's got a 64-bit chipset... But it might.02:57
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jeranAfter atp-get installs something, do I have to do anything else to get it to start up?02:58
hondjejeran: no, just run it usually02:58
remyforbes777hondje: thanks02:58
nebularI'm running kubuntu and when I try to install firefox it seems to want to install quite a bit of gnome stuff. is it safe to install it without the gnome dependancies, or is the version for ubuntu specifically compiled to need gnome stuff?02:58
Guest_545The Ubuntu install gets to a crash loop after it installs the CD rom drivers and starts actually INSTALLING Ubuntu... When it tries to install nic-extra-modules-2.6.10-5-386-di there's a crash loop.02:58
paxremyforbes777: yes master script dir is /etc/init.d02:58
hondjeGuest_545: if it's an AMD chip, you need the amd installation CD02:58
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Guest_545I know, Hondje.02:58
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jeranhondje: The reason I ask is because I removed and reinstalled mozilla-firefox and firefox and now when I go to start up firefox it says "Starting up Firefox" and then closes that and nothing happens..02:59
gijoshHey.  Silly question, but I don't see it in the panel properties.  How do you add a launcher to the applications menu?02:59
Guest_545Hondje, the Ubuntu site says it only needs that for AMD chips with a 64-bit chipset.02:59
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hondjejeran: open up a terminal and type in 'firefox', see if it gives any useful error messages02:59
Guest_545Hold on. Let me search the AMD site again, to see if I can find specs on my CPU. BRB.02:59
_mikeagrajag, nope didnt work. gcc, and cpp, when i make it uses cpp. but cpp doesn't have a '-c' so i think it wants gcc instead02:59
Guest_545If anyone knows if an AMD K-6 3D is 64-bit, I'd appreciate it.02:59
_SWAT_hi, I'm looking for a program to re-encode/convert some MP3's (from 192 to 128). What's the best prog I can use?02:59
_mikewhta do you think agrajag?02:59
supernixjust curious how is envolution is anyone still using it or is it defunct ?02:59
jeranhondje: Nothing02:59
_SWAT_Guest_545, whats your speed? (mhz/ghz)03:00
Guest_545Shit. I don't remember. :(03:00
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dicesis there a weay to install breezy packagesi n hoary ?03:00
Guest_545But I know it's bad.. Probably somewhere around 200 to 500 MHz.03:00
_SWAT_Guest_545, then  you don't have a 64-bit cpu03:00
jeranhondje: It loads up when I do sudo firefox.. but not when I just start up firefox03:00
Proteque_Guest_545: AMD K-6 is a very old cpu03:00
MakzuGuest_545, K6 chips are only 32-bit.  The 64-bit chps are K803:01
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Guest_545OK, then why is the Ubuntu install stuttering?03:01
_SWAT_indeed, I thought so too (because I have one... it's 3500+)03:01
MakzuGuest_545, You need a couple more Ks first03:01
Guest_545When it gets to nic-extra-modules-2.6.10-5-386-di it stops.03:01
Agrajag_mike: well, as I said cpp is the C preprocessor03:01
hondjejeran: hrm03:01
Agrajagso it runs whenever you use gcc03:01
Guest_545It tries to install the file, screen goes black, then tries again, then black, then it tries again, then it's black.03:01
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Guest_545It loops.03:01
pinkoquestion: do any linux bittorrent clients let you pick and choose files in a torrent?03:02
Proteque_Guest_545: forever?03:02
Guest_545Yes.03:02
Agrajagpinko: bittornado does03:02
_mikecpp: "-c" is not a valid option to the preprocessor03:02
_mikemake: *** [main.o]  Error 103:02
_mikeright, agrajag, here the 'problem':03:02
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_mikewell above it..03:02
pinkoAgrajag: never noticed that.  I'll have to look at it some more.03:02
pinkoand, hopefully that includes the curses version03:03
hondjejeran: what does 'firefox -ProfileManager' do?03:03
Guest_545Proteque---Yes.03:03
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Agrajaguh, I don't think so, I think you need btdownloadgui to pick files03:03
pinkook03:03
jeranhondje: That worked.. I made another user and it started up03:03
Agrajaganyway _mike I'm not sure about it, I'm sitting in windows right now so Ican't check the cpp manual and see what, if anything, -c is supposed to do03:04
hondjejeran: awesome :)03:04
jeranhondje: Thanks!03:04
Guest_545...Anyone...?03:04
hondjeno problem03:04
Proteque_Guest_545: when it is installing this package? sounds really strange.03:04
Guest_545Proteque, I wrote it down.03:04
supernixI installed Kubuntu but I am curious what would be the best way to install Gnome as well ?03:04
Guest_545I'll tell you exactly what it does.03:04
nebularok, I was checking out the mozilla-firefox package for debian and it doesn't depend on any gnome packages. is there any reason why I shouldn't use deselect and force it to ignore the gnome stuff in kubuntu?03:04
supernixwould that be like a bad thing?03:04
Guest_545I run the boot disk and the Ubuntu install screen comes up. It asks me to press enter for the default install or type server for the base install.03:04
_mikealright thanks for the hell so far agrajag03:05
_mikehelp*03:05
_mikeha03:05
Guest_545So, I press enter, then it unpacks a bunch of files. After that, it says it's going to run in low memory mode (I only have 32 MB of RAM) and that I need to set up a swap area after install.03:05
HrdwrBoB32mb ram.. damn03:05
HrdwrBoBmy router has that :/03:06
Guest_545Then, I select English, and an American English keyboard. Then, it installs the CD rom... It scans the CD rom.. Then it's loading additional component.03:06
jeranhondje: Well.. Actually it only starts when I do it that way... I'm not sure what's wrong, should I edit the icon to just go to that each time?03:06
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Guest_545When it starts installing nic-extra-modules-2.6.10-5-386-di there is a crash loop. It keeps saying "retrieving nic-extra-modules-2.6.10-5-386-di", it goes to 1%, then the screen goes black and it repeats.03:07
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abarbacciai <3 ubuntu - my rio carbon is "plug and play" to a whole new level03:07
Guest_545Oh, and the version of Ubuntu I'm installing is 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog"03:08
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Guest_545..Anyone...?03:10
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stodgeAnyone else finding Firefox 1.02 under Hoary very flaky?03:11
abarbacciastodge, why are you using 1.0203:11
jmannsyup03:11
bryanGuest_545, just a shot in the air... have u tried using another CD?03:11
stodgeI didnt see the update for it03:11
abarbacciastodge, do you ahve hte backports installed?03:11
tritiumstodge, there hasn't been one yet03:11
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abarbacciasources listed03:11
Guest_545Bryan, I *can* try burning it again, but that'll take life 30 minutes.03:11
stodgeBackports? No03:11
abarbacciatritium, you must be lying because im using 1.0403:11
jmannsare there any cool free games i can play under gnome?03:12
stodgeI'm just using thebasic installation plus auto updates03:12
tritiumabarbaccia, dude, that's rather rude...03:12
Guest_545When you say another CD, do you mean burning it again, or another version? (Like the AMD version, or Warty Warthog)03:12
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Guest_545*like 30 minutes03:12
abarbacciatritium, lighten up - i'm just being a wiseass03:12
tritiumabarbaccia, I don't use backports -- only official repos for me03:12
_mikehumm i successfully installed nmap 3.81, but when i run $nmap i still get 3.75 do i have to do something else after make install to run the new version?03:12
bryanGuest_545, I think most of us have successfully downloaded and installed from CD, so maybe u can try burning it again, also u can try to do md5sum of the iso miage03:12
bryan*image03:13
Guest_545Bryan, how do I do an md5sum of the iso?03:13
abarbacciatritium, i would recommend you add them though because of security fixes03:13
stodge1.0.2 tends to wander off into lala land without returning GUI control tome. Had to kill it five time tonight03:13
tritiumabarbaccia, the security fixes in 1.0.4 are in 1.0.203:13
_mikeguest_545 sudo apt-get install md5sum, then $md5sum blablbla.iso03:13
abarbacciatritium, i was unaware03:13
tritium!firefox03:13
jeranI'm still confused about my firefox installation..03:14
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tritiumabarbaccia, if you type "!firefox", ubotu will explain to you03:14
ed1thelp....my gnome menu bar is messed up03:14
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ed1tis there any way i can reset it?:03:14
Big_Ough03:14
Guest_545Bryan or anyone else--how do I do an md5sum?03:15
zerboxxWhy is it that after I play a DVD in my laptop, I can't use the drives eject button, I have to right click on the icon and hit eject?03:15
_mikeguest_545 i just told you03:15
_mikeguest_545 sudo apt-get install md5sum, then $md5sum blablbla.iso03:15
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abarbacciazerboxx, because linux has the drive mounted - you need to umount before ejecting03:15
Guest_545Oh, okay, sorry. Didn't see it03:15
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abarbacciazerboxx, its susposed to bel ike that for all devices03:15
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Big_Ook if i want to link a bin directory so that i can use it on the comand line what file do i have to edit or do i just do a symbolic link to the directory03:16
Guest_545Mike, I don't understand what you mean.03:16
Guest_545Sudo apt-get... what...?03:16
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Big_Ojdk has to be a pain in the arse03:16
Big_O<_<03:16
zerboxxabarbaccia: So right clicking, and hitting eject does just that?03:16
keikozmmh03:16
keikozGuest_545 you should maybee read the basics howto about linux03:16
bob2Big_O: depends exactly what you're trying to do03:17
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Guest_545Keikoz, I'm planning on just playing with it, after installing.03:17
keikozhumm03:17
keikozgood luck :o)03:17
_mikeguest_545 what are you not understanding? type this at the terminal: sudo apt-get install -y md5sum03:17
abarbacciazerboxx, yep, it unmounts the drive - you can also do a umount /media/cdrom from a term then hit the eject button03:18
_mikethis will install md5sum for you which checks md5sums03:18
_mikecopy and paste03:18
Big_Oive got jdk installed in a directory, i want to use the bin directory in it on the comand line =?03:18
Agrajag_mike: still having trouble?03:18
vaderkeikoz: I have been reading that fairly regularly, and it has helped a lot03:18
AgrajagWhere did you install nmap to?03:18
Guest_545From the Ubuntu boot disk's first screen?03:18
AgrajagI bet you're looking at the one in /usr/bin, and you installed it to /usr/local/bin03:18
_mikeactually agrajag, i installed the binary to my nmap directory03:18
keikozvader i imagine03:18
Agrajagnmap directory?03:18
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_mikei installed it in /root/nmap-3.8103:19
Agrajagwell then it's not in $PATH03:19
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Guest_545Mike--from the Ubuntu CD's first screen?03:19
vaderwell, it helped me understand what to do when it came to installing my wireless card03:19
Agrajaginstall it to /usr/local/ and make sure /usr/local/bin/ is in $PATH03:19
zerboxxabarbaccia: Having to right click is more than enough :) thanks tho03:19
_mikealright agrajag thanks03:19
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bob2Big_O: just add it to your $PATH03:19
_mikeguest_545, do what i said before03:19
bob2Big_O: or symlink the binaries into /usr/local/bin03:20
jeranWhy does firefox run when I type 'sudo firefox' but not only 'firefox' and it works when I do 'firefox -ProfileManager'03:20
jeranbut not when I type 'firefox' rather03:20
_mikedont' put the cd in guest_545 LISTEN. open a terminal. at the prompt <user>@ubuntu:$ type this: sudo apt-get install -y md5sum03:20
Big_Ook thanks03:20
Guest_545Mike, I don't have Linux on any other computer.03:20
Guest_545I have Windows on all my computers and am installing Ubuntu on my laptop.03:20
_mikeso you haven't installed ubuntu yet?03:21
Guest_545NO.03:21
Big_Ocan i symlink the directory or do i have to do each individual file?03:21
Guest_545I am having PROBLEMS installing it. That's what I'm talking about! :P03:21
bob2jeran: perhaps your firefox user data is screwed03:21
_mikeohhhhhh03:21
bob2jeran: does moving ~/firefox out of the way fix it?03:21
_mikewhat are the problems?03:21
bob2er, ~/.firefox03:21
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jeranbob2: It says no such directory03:22
Guest_545After it installs the CD rom driver, it starts installing files.. When it gets nc-extra-modules-2.6.10-5-286-di there is a crash loop.03:22
bob2jeran: ~/.mozilla/firefox, then03:22
bob2Guest_545: where did you get the cd from/03:22
Guest_545It tries to install nc-extra-modules-2.6.10-5-286-di then the screen goes black, then it tries again, then the screen goes black, and it repeats forever.03:22
jeranbob2: No such directory again03:23
zerboxxhow would I go about formatting a usb harddrive??03:23
Guest_545Bob2--Ubuntulinux.org03:23
Guest_545Intel x86 install CD.03:23
Guest_545http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso03:23
bob2jeran: how odd03:23
_mikehumm, im not sure guest_545 may want to google up on checking md5sums in windows and check it there03:23
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bob2Guest_545: so, you downloaded it yourself.  boot it in expert mode, and ask it to verify the cd03:24
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_mikeif you stil lhave that iso on a working computer03:24
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jeranbob2: I can create a new profile and it loads up just fine.. I just had a lot of trouble with firefox earlier and I did an apt-get remove of it and it's been doing this ever since I tried to reinstall it03:24
bob2jeran: removing it won't have affected this03:24
Guest_545Ok, Bob2. BRB.03:24
bob2unless it's caused by corrupt system files03:24
jeranbob2: This all started because I was trying to upgrade firefox *sigh*03:24
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bob2yes, it is way better to just leave it alone03:25
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elmagozizouHi... Why if I have the nvidia kernel module instaled and enabled I cant play tux racer well..and my Opengl sreensavers doesnt see very well03:26
elmagozizouthe only thing is fine is 3ddesktop03:26
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_SWAT_hi, I'm looking for a program to re-encode/convert some MP3's (from 192 to 128). What's the best prog I can use?03:26
Super_BQhow do you start Gnome desktop from terminal prompt?03:27
_mikestartx03:27
jeranbob2: It would probably be easier to just reinstall ubuntu, lol03:27
_mikethen at logon click session and choose your windows manager03:27
jeranbob2: I was trying to update firefox because of the security patches..03:27
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bob2jeran: I really doubt reinstalling is a useful course of action03:28
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pschulz01_greetings03:28
bob2jeran: er, that was silly, the version in ubuntu has all those security patches03:28
Super_BQcomes back saying /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xservers: line 2: /usr/bin/X11/X: No such file or directory03:28
bob2Super_BQ: you're using breezy?03:28
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abarbacciahey does anybody know what sources are needed for installing transcode?03:28
jeranbob2: I had 1.0.2 installed and apt-get told me that there were updates avaiable.03:28
pschulz01_I am using ubuntu, and have been asked to supply a 'vcard' to someone..03:28
Super_BQinstalled Ubunto 'server' for minimal space03:28
pschulz01_how would I do this?03:28
bob2jeran: yes, which have the patches applied to 1.0.203:28
Super_BQbob2: i'm sorry I don't know what breezy is :( - i'm quite new to linux03:29
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pschulz01_I have entere my details into the 'contacts' in evolution.. what would the next step be?03:29
Guest_545OK, it's checking the CD's integrity now.03:29
QMarioHow can I correctly write an .iso file to a CD-03:29
bob2Super_BQ: if you did a serer install, you don't have X or gnome03:29
Guest_545It will be a minute.03:29
Super_BQi installed by apt-get install gnome-desktop03:29
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QMario How can I correctly write an .iso file to a CD-R/CD-RW?03:30
bob2QMario: right click on it in the file manage, select "write to cd"03:30
Super_BQbob2: yep. and I installed it after (is that not the same?)03:30
Guest_545QMario, are you on Windows?03:30
bob2Super_BQ: apparently you didn't; sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop03:30
Guest_545No, Bob2... Windows does not write CD images.03:30
Guest_545It will just burn the ISO as a file.03:30
QMarioGuest_545, no I am on Ubuntu.03:30
Guest_545Oh, okay, nevermind.03:30
bob2Super_BQ: assuming you want the whole ubuntu desktop installed03:30
QMarioBob2, that's it?03:30
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Super_BQbob2: easier to do a full install instead?03:30
jeranGuest_545: A program like Alcohol 120% could burn your .iso image to the CD for you, correctly..03:31
apokryphoscafuego: you here? :)03:31
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NetEchowhere does the ubuntu livecd keep the network config03:31
NetEcho?03:31
Guest_545Jeran, I don't need it. :P03:31
bob2QMario: yes03:31
bob2Super_BQ: no03:31
Guest_545Ubuntu is already on disc. I was just trying to help QMario.03:31
zerboxxHow do I go about formatting a usb harddrive??03:31
bytecoderwhy would you use aptitude for that?03:31
jeranGuest_545: Aye.. I'm just throwing in my two cents to the matter on windows..03:31
abarbacciaGuest_545, i thought if you open the cdwrite folder and go to open you can select the iso image03:31
QMarioOkay. Thank you everyone! :)03:31
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bob2zerboxx: with the "mkfs" command03:31
wolfjames54I just installed Ubuntu and they never asked me for a root password so I have no idea what it is. does anyone know if there's a default root password?03:32
teferithere is no root password03:32
teferiyou use sudo03:32
bytecoderwolfjames54, it's the same as your normal account password03:32
Guest_545Abarbaccia, I don't think so. I always had to use programs like Nero or Alcohol to burn CD-images. Windows XP never did it.03:32
wolfjames54awsome03:32
wolfjames54thaks03:32
bob2wolfjames54: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:32
bytecoderwell, sudo is set up to accept your password03:32
zerboxxbob2: followed by whatnow?03:32
bytecoderthere is no password for root03:32
pschulz01_Can I extract my details in a 'vcard' format somehow?03:32
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bob2wolfjames54: also, the installer explained it to you03:32
NetEchoanyone?03:32
Guest_545AFK.03:32
bytecoderyou have to use sudo, unless you want to set root's password manually03:32
wolfjames54did it?03:32
giantsup all03:32
jeranbob2: So.. Am I just screwed over and no way to fix my problem?03:32
bob2pschulz01_: perhaps try #evolution on irc.gnome.org03:32
abarbacciaGuest_545, damn them all then03:32
gianthows everyone doing tonight?03:32
bob2jeran: of course not03:33
tritiumwolfjames54, plenty of other good documentation in the topic (see the FAQs and User Documentation links)03:33
pschulz01_bob2: cheers03:33
wolfjames54alright thanks03:33
bob2jeran: presumably, getting rid of your local firefox data would fix it;you never explained how you broke it to begin with, though03:33
bob2jeran: if it involved "backports", then you have to talk to them03:33
Super_BQbob2: am I suppose to type 'sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop' before doing the apt-get install gnome-desktop ?03:33
bob2Super_BQ: gnome-desktop won't install what you think it will.  the command I gave you will give you a full desktop03:34
bob2Super_BQ: why did you install it in server mode to begin with?03:34
Super_BQbob2: i won't be using it as a desktop. I want to leave it as a router/ftp server but when I put in firestarter it says I have to go into gnome to configure it03:35
MrGardenHoseManwhat's the difference between .gz and .bz2 files?03:35
bob2Super_BQ: er03:35
Super_BQbob2: I couldn't find any info on how to configure the firestarter03:35
bob2routers don't have X or firestarter installed03:35
abarbacciacan someone try to help me out and stat the debian nerim testing main and stable main repos - im getting md5 mismatches i can't get around03:35
giantdoes anyone haev any experience with running Half-Life2 under Ubuntu03:35
Super_BQso firewall and routers don't go together?03:35
MrGardenHoseMancan i just get either/or and it'll do the trick?03:35
bob2MrGardenHoseMan: different compression formats.  bzip2 tends to get slightly better compression than gzip.03:35
MrGardenHoseManahh03:36
bob2MrGardenHoseMan: you can download either, yes, but the bzip2 will probably be a bit smaller03:36
bob2Super_BQ: no, really routers don't have gui tools, tho.  anyway, just install firestarter on it, then connect to it from another linux machine with "ssh -X user@firewall"03:36
elmagozizouHi... Why if I have the nvidia kernel module instaled and enabled I cant play tux racer well..and my Opengl sreensavers doesnt see very well...the only thig I can do is 3ddesktop03:36
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bob2abarbaccia: neither of those work for haory03:37
funkyHatgrrrr. gftp keeps dieing03:37
Super_BQbob2: I just thought it was stupid in the ubunto users guide that you install firestarter and then go into Gnome :|03:37
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bob2Super_BQ: "ubuntu"03:38
bob2Super_BQ: presuma blly the user guide was talking about people running firestarter on workstations03:38
Guest_545Bob2---I'm back. The CD rom was valid.03:38
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_mikewhen i am installing somethign how to i edit $PATH? Makefile or command line? cus ther is not $PATH in the makefile03:38
Guest_545It's a good copy of Ubuntu. :p03:38
Super_BQok i'll have to install ssh 1st03:38
Guest_545So, now what?03:38
tritium_mike, in your ~/.bashrc is a good place03:39
bob2Guest_545: now ask on the ubuntu-users list03:39
Guest_545... Ok.03:39
Guest_545One last question.03:39
zerboxxbob2: Any further help on formatting my usb harddrive? you said mkfs, but I'm not sure what should follow that /media/external?03:40
tritium_mike, for example, you might have something like "export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin" in your ~/.bashrc03:40
bob2zerboxx: no, the device node03:40
Guest_545I formatted with a CD-boot disk. It was a DOS-like program. My question is: Could the file system that it formatted it in cause problems?03:40
bob2zerboxx: which you need to find out manually, by looking at /var/log/messages03:40
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zerboxxbob2: can you explain to me what to be looking for?03:40
_mikeso if i was installing nmap i can edit that file and tell it where to install?03:40
abarbacciabob2, if you could help me out with what sources are needed to install transcode i would apprecaite it03:40
bob2zerboxx: e.g. /dev/sda03:40
bob2abarbaccia: no, sorry03:40
funkyHat:| gftp is sending php files in binary mode, that's not right is it :S?03:41
Guest_545Bob2--My question above.03:41
bob2it would involved rebuilding it yourself, it seems03:41
bob2Guest_545: please don't bother specific people03:41
bob2and "no"03:41
Guest_545k03:41
Super_BQbob2: is there a line command that I can 'uninstall' the gnome?03:41
Super_BQlike apt-get uninstall ?03:41
Guest_545Well, thanks anyway. I'll have to figure it out myself. :(03:41
Guest_545AFK03:41
teferigrah, firefox in breezy is broken03:42
tritium_mike, installing nmap from the repositories?03:42
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teferi(yes, yes, it's breezy, breakage is expected)03:42
bob2Super_BQ: remove, but it won't do twhat you think it will03:42
bob2Super_BQ: in future, use aptitude03:42
_mikeno i have the source, repo only has 3.75 im instlaling 3.8103:42
modderclockerwena wena cauros03:42
modderclockerbasilen www.warextreme.tk03:42
tritium_mike, use can specify where to install it with the "--prefix" option when you make it03:43
modderclockerwhat up??03:43
modderclockerchile03:43
tritiumwhat I showed you earlier was for setting your path env. variable03:43
Super_BQok brb.03:43
modderclockerhello03:44
zerboxxWhat is the pastebin for ubuntu?03:44
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tritiumit's in the /topic03:44
bob2just use #flood03:44
modderclockerwww.warextreme.tk03:44
tritiummodderclocker, please stop advertising03:44
modderclockernos vcemos03:45
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zerboxxbob2: I've put the last bit of /var/logs/messages in the pastebin, can you check it out for me please? (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/695)03:45
bob2zerboxx: so, it's /dev/sda03:46
bob2assuming you don't want to partition it03:46
zerboxxbob2: I just want to format that, and leave everything on my internal hd just the way it is03:47
bob2then go for it03:47
abarbacciabob2, if i wanted to install transcode from breezy - but only transcode and not use breezy for anything but that, what's the easiest way to do that - set a restriction or something to only use breezy when absolutly needed03:47
zerboxxbob2: so would it be mkfs /dev/sda?03:47
bob2which part of the mkfs help output was unclear?03:47
bob2no03:47
bob2abarbaccia: no, that won't help03:47
bob2abarbaccia: you'd need to try to build the breezy source on hoary03:47
bob2or else you get breezy's libc etc03:47
abarbacciabob2, would that be bad?03:47
bob2yes03:48
abarbacciabob2, what does libc do?03:48
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bob2it's the basic library every single other binary on your system uses03:49
abarbacciabob2, what i figured - just making sure - and what debian sources can i use?03:49
abarbacciatesting?03:49
tritiumyou don't want to do that either03:50
bob2no03:50
bob2as I said, if you think the brezy package works, build that source on ubunt03:50
bob2er, hoary03:50
keikozchanging the libc library on a systeme ?03:50
abarbacciakeikoz, well, we think that should be avoided03:51
abarbacciabob2, its the dependency problems that are the issue - and its not just libc03:51
bob2yes, I know03:51
abarbacciahow would i go about building it?03:52
_mikedo most debian apps work with ubuntu?03:52
keikozi think changing the libc is a bad bad bad idea03:52
bob2_mike: yes, but don't use packages from debian.org on ubuntu03:52
_mikei'm trying to get a bigger list of repositorie03:52
_mikes03:52
hondje_mike: most 'debian' apps are in ubuntu's repositories03:52
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bob2_mike: what is in debian that isn't in ubuntu?03:53
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robertjMarc's talk is really good, but the video is really a bandwith waste03:53
_mikewell, im not focusing on debian apps. I'm just looking for more ubuntu repositories.03:53
bob2_mike: e.g.?03:53
bob2adding random repositories to your sources.list is just silly03:53
tritium_mike, beyond universe and multiverse?03:54
pschulz01_bob2: regarding 'vcards'.03:54
_mikeyea, right now i have 15 repositories in sources.list03:54
hondjetritium: the inner physicist in me cringes to hear that :)03:54
_mikeincluding cdrom03:54
_mikejust wondering what else is out there03:54
bob2_mike: that's going to be painful03:54
tritiumhondje, yeah, I was thinking along the same lines as I hit return ;)03:54
bob2pschulz01_: ?03:54
hondjehehe03:54
_mikeother than universe multiverse and restricted03:54
apokryphos_mike: if you don't know what else you want, then there's no real need to have other repos...03:54
pschulz01_bob2: the #evolution channel was very quiet... (ie. nobody talking)03:54
hondjebackports, I guess03:54
bob2vcards are a silly thing invented by the sort of people who buy windows pdas03:55
pschulz01_bob2: You can drag and drop from address boot to emails!03:55
pschulz01_bob2: You can drag and drop from address book to emails!03:55
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bob2pschulz01_: and I can hit three keys in mutt to do the same03:55
teferibob2: vcards are not silly by any stretch of the imagination03:55
_mikeits not that i want things. why search for apps in 15 repos when you could search for  an apt in 25!?03:55
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teferithey're the lingua franca for contacts exchange03:55
teferieverything understands vcards. even, like, cellphones03:55
hondje_mike: why walk when you can run into a wall?03:56
_mikestablitiy reasons, and dependencies i suppose03:56
pschulz01_bob2: I was asked to supply a vcard to a linux friendly company who is going to supply me wich cheep hardware,,\03:56
bob2_mike: yeah, quantity, not quality, rock!03:56
bob2pschulz01_: ok!03:56
bob2pschulz01_: I don't know where else to ask then, try the evolution user list03:56
bob2assuming you did the obvious export stuff03:56
hondjewhat about vcards?03:56
pschulz01_bob2: I found out what I wanted...03:56
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chillywillywhat's wrong with vcards?03:56
teferiit's a crappy format, sure, but there are zillion tools out there to parse 'em03:57
teferimodules for any language you care to name03:57
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teferiand like i said, everything understands 'em03:57
pschulz01_I filled out the details in evolution address book for myself, and dragged the entry into the attachement bar of my email.03:57
teferieven cellphones03:57
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regeya_I suppose someone will try to claim that ldif > *03:57
regeya_or that we need to exchange contact info in *gag* XML03:57
teferildif isn't particularly awful, if you're using ldap03:58
chillywillyxml it is then03:58
regeya_chillywilly03:58
teferium, if you're using ldap, you really shouldn't be using anything else, actually...03:58
robertjldiff scares me and I run slapd03:58
hondjeldap hurts my head03:58
pschulz01_especially cellphones :-)03:58
teferiand fuck, i'd rather have some xml format than vcard03:58
hondjeI'm so glad I'm not an admin03:58
teferivcard is arcane03:58
regeya_slapd03:58
regeya_um03:58
regeya_hm.03:58
teferidon't look at me03:58
teferii rolled out our ldap setup at my college03:58
teferi:P03:58
regeya_I'd rather have anything other than XML03:59
pschulz01_bob2: cheers, thanks for the pointers...03:59
hondjebecause you hate life, teferi ?03:59
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teferihondje: 'cause i got paid to do it03:59
hondjea far better reason03:59
robertjXML is great, it's just a nasty reminder that we don't have all the GUI tools that we would like03:59
teferialso because it's still the best way around of doing single-sign-on03:59
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chillywillyor not03:59
regeya_<firstname>Shane</firstname>04:00
regeya_wheee04:00
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regeya_that's fun04:00
robertjteferi: OS X has single-sign-on more or less whipped, I hope Ubuntu catches up04:00
Guest_545BTW, someone had my same problem in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29223.html04:00
hondjedoesn't os x just use ssh-agent?04:00
Guest_545No one answered. :x04:00
teferirobertj: er, i mean in a network environment04:00
robertjteferi: yes...04:00
teferios x server uses ldap by now, doesn't it?04:01
teferii know they're trying to move away from netinfo04:01
robertjteferi: ldap + krb by default with the last 2 versions04:01
teferiah04:01
teferiyeah, ldap+krb is pretty sweet04:01
chillywilly<firstname>jo</firstname> <lastname>momma</lastname>04:01
robertjand afs, nfs, and smbfs are all kerberized04:01
Guest_545AFK04:01
chillywillyboy this is fun....04:01
teferier, afs should be kerberized, considering that it's afs :P04:01
DAC1138okay, i got a friend whos going to get a mac soon and he needs virtual pc to run windows, are there any free x86 emualtors for the ppc linux?04:01
teferiafs is dreamy04:02
Kyralwine?04:02
bob2DAC1138: qemu04:02
teferiif only it wasn't such a SOB to set up on the server end04:02
teferiKyral: nope, that's not an emulator04:02
DAC1138i told him to think about wine04:02
bob2Kyral: Wine Is Note an Emulator04:02
robertjtefari: unfortunately in this context its apple file sharing and not afs ;)04:02
teferioh04:02
teferiyou mean afp04:02
robertjAlthough ther _is_ a prepackaged AFS kerberized binary!04:02
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KyralYah, does the same thing :D04:02
DAC1138i told him to install linux, use Mac on linux to run osx, and then run the linux x86 app to run windows/windows programs04:02
teferinope, it just loads windows binaries and runs the native code, kyral04:02
teferibig difference04:02
Kyraloh...04:02
robertjBTW, VirtualPC is unusable without a gig of ram and a G5 for most things04:03
teferirobertj: mmm. AFS.04:03
Kyralbut it works great :D04:03
DAC1138its not an emulator, but it works for windows apps, which is what he's looking for AFAIK04:03
ricosuave17what music player do u use04:03
teferirobertj: like i said, if only it wasn't such a SOB to set up on the server end04:03
teferiDAC1138: not on ppc it won't04:03
robertjteferi: AFS as no love from apple, but cifs is good enough for us04:03
DAC1138teferi, hm, guess he's out of luck then04:03
DAC1138hes going to have to fork over the money for virtual pc04:03
teferiAFS should get love from more people04:04
teferiIt really should04:04
ricosuave17why doesnt my fstab load automatically my ntfs partitiosn04:04
hondjemac people like forking over money04:04
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DAC1138hondje, they do. but not while in college04:04
hondjericosuave17: do you have 'auto' in options?04:04
DAC1138ricosuave17, they jsut want quality machines like everyone else04:04
Proteque_is it normal for ext3 to take over 20 minutes to format on raid 5? 10 + 100 gig partitions04:04
rommerhas anyone here ever setup fai as a cluster in ubuntu?04:04
hondjeI shouldn't pick on mac people, I have a couple, but they're so fun to tease04:05
DAC1138rommer, whats fai?04:05
MrGardenHoseManwhat's the unrar or untar command?04:05
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ricosuave17were?04:05
rommerDAC1138: fully automatic installation04:05
hondjeunrar <file>, and tar xf <file>04:05
robertjteferi: It's cool but it's not got nearly the scope of your every day file server04:05
MrGardenHoseManthanks04:05
teferirobertj: not nearly the scope?04:05
hondjeyou might need to install unrar04:05
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robertjnot many people care about clusteredfs04:06
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ricosuave17were do i put this auto on?04:06
teferiit's so dreamy on the client end. kerberized and almost no configuration04:06
DAC1138man, ubuntu/debian needs to get their apt-get system up to date04:06
robertjteferi: what is, afs?04:06
hondjericosuave17: in the fstab file, under the options column with the rest of them04:06
teferiyeah04:06
DAC1138nvu is still only avalible in te beta format, while its at 1.0 on the official site04:06
teferii seem to recall it being "m-a install openafs" and "mount -t afs /afs"04:07
teferiand then kinit04:07
supernix Ok now what is the best way to install Gnome on a Kubuntu box and does that cause any problems ?04:07
ricosuave17i have another problem my sound died04:07
hondjeDAC1138: hoary is stable, that means no upgrades, only bug fixes and security patches04:07
DAC1138supernix, just get ubuntu and install kde, lol04:07
robertjteferi: I just decided its more trouble than its worth and bought bigger disks ;)04:07
teferiheh04:08
supernixDAC1138: I already have Kubuntu installed04:08
DAC1138hondje, then what apt source do i use for general debian built programs?04:08
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teferione of these days someone will make a network filesystem that doesn't suck04:08
rommersupernix: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?04:08
teferisigh04:08
DAC1138hondje, i was joking, lol. it'd be the same thing.04:08
hondjeusing .debs from debian isn't very smart04:08
supernixI thought about trying out Gnome to see which I like beter04:08
DAC1138limiting yourself isnt smart either04:08
supernixis that the beste way to do it rommer  ?04:08
ricosuave17it was working fine and one day i tried to change the mixer options and i put them back to the original and now there is no sound04:08
rommeryep04:09
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hondjesmarter is adding a deb-src from debian, apt-get build-dep foo, where you pin foo to debian, and then apt-get source -b foo, and removing the repo04:09
mebaran151what is a good distro to use to start learning about Mono.net04:09
ricosuave17man someone give me a music player plz04:09
mebaran151I would like to learn about it04:09
mebaran151ricosuave17, xmms04:09
mebaran151beep-media-player04:09
_mikeis there a moodin theme engine available for unbuntu?04:09
DAC1138why should i limit myself to old outdated programs with bugs?04:09
DAC1138silence...04:09
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hondjeof course, if you don't have the deps, then you're still screwed...you can futz with the rules, but odds are that you won't know why version x.2 is better than x.104:09
aynjellHello.04:09
aynjellDoes ubuntu use apt-get?04:09
mebaran151Gstreamer04:09
robertjaynjell: yes04:10
mebaran151aynjell, yes04:10
aynjellOkay.04:10
_mikeaynjell yes04:10
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_mikeis there a moodin theme engine available for unbuntu?04:10
mebaran151what is a good distro to start learning about mono.net on04:10
aynjellHow is it's application compatibility?04:10
hondjeDAC1138: You're a lousy troll :p04:10
mebaran151aynjell, what you should expect from Debian Linux04:10
DAC1138hondje, dude, i was asking a valid question04:10
mebaran151most everything under the sun04:10
aynjellmebaran151, oooo-kay....04:10
robertjaynjell: bad by windows standards, great by non-profit linux standards04:10
_mikeaynjell gnome - rock solid. kde i've just seen kaffeine get buggy never had a crash04:10
DAC1138hondje, so if someone asks something you dont know or dont like, you call them a troll?04:10
hondjeand adding 'silence' like a teen drama queen04:10
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ricosuave17please help me with my sound i need it a lot04:11
hondjeNo, I'm the biggest troll I know, I can sniff out my breed04:11
_mikei think ubuntu has great stability04:11
DAC1138hondje, well, on my side of the network, everything stopped04:11
mebaran151aynjell, well I guess it matters04:11
DAC1138hondje, i thought everyone had left their keyboard, what did you expect? TROLLL!!!04:11
mebaran151I mean you will have an application for every need you could possibly have04:11
aynjellmebaran151, what?04:11
hondjeI know I'm a troll04:11
hondjeask ricosuave1704:11
mebaran151and it is all one click away04:11
supernixrommer: just curious what happens at reboot does it give you an option of which of the windows managers to use ?04:11
DAC1138hondje, lighten up04:11
aynjellmebaran151, that's not what I'm saying.04:11
aynjellI'm a linux user.04:11
hondjeThere's no reason you can't upgrade to the latest nvu04:11
ricosuave17can someone please help me04:11
mebaran151oh04:11
hondjebut using debians .debs is a stupid way to do it04:11
aynjellhow is the support for applications made by loki n shit>?04:12
mebaran151aynjell, then how do you mean?04:12
ricosuave17i told u what the problem is already04:12
ricosuave17and i get no help04:12
DAC1138ricosuave17, knowing the question would help with the problem?04:12
aynjellHow is proprietary linux software?04:12
mebaran151aynjell, oh pretty good.04:12
aynjellDoes it work well?04:12
aynjellOkay.04:12
mebaran151I think they all work04:12
mebaran151I am on AMD64 so I lose out on that04:12
ricosuave17the question is why wont my sound work.04:12
aynjellRight now, one option for me is using 32 bit gentoo04:12
hondjeI'd hope so, if you pay money for it04:12
mebaran151but on my  Intel laptop works out fine04:12
ricosuave17it used to work perfect04:12
tritiumricosuave17, please elaborate04:12
tritiumwhat changed?04:12
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ricosuave17well i have no sound at all04:12
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mebaran151aynjell, I feel your pain04:12
ricosuave17i dont know i just change the mixer option to alsa04:12
ricosuave17and then back to oss04:12
mebaran151ricosuave17, check your mixer04:13
aynjellmebaran151, well, I'm sure you do. :)04:13
tritiumricosuave17, we're looking for cause/effect things here04:13
ricosuave17and now it doesnt work04:13
mebaran151aynjell, I need to start doing .NET apps04:13
aynjellRight now the goal is to make myself more linux software freindly.04:13
aynjell.NET?04:13
aynjellHa....04:13
epilocdoes anyone know what package would include the printer manager?04:13
mebaran151and G-d help you to find a solution for AMD6404:13
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mebaran151aynjell, was going to use Mono04:13
ricosuave17i changed the mixer from oss to alsa and then back to oss04:13
ricosuave17and it doesnt work04:13
mebaran151well Mono is pretty nice04:13
ricosuave17on any now'04:13
mebaran151ricosuave17, try this04:13
tritiumricosuave17, as mebaran151 mentioned, check the mixer settings04:13
mebaran151run alsamixer in terminal04:13
mebaran151and check the mixer04:13
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mebaran151if that dont work04:14
aynjell:)04:14
mebaran151try running esd04:14
mebaran151it should start up pretty nicely04:14
aynjelleek! Esd!04:14
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mebaran151aynjell, Arts fan?04:14
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aynjellmebaran151, alsa fan.04:14
aynjellI have always used straight alsa.04:14
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ricosuave17ok fixed04:15
ricosuave17thanks04:15
epiloceverytime i try to access the printer manager, it freezes... any ideas?04:15
DAC1138dang, i dont give a crap about my sound system, as long as it works04:15
aynjellCreative Audigy 2 ZS Platinum > *04:15
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funkyHati've had trouble getting alsa to work properly :(04:15
epilochow do i kill the proccess?04:15
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DAC1138you guys are some hardcore users if you're that picky as to which sound system you use04:15
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mebaran151epiloc, killall (app name)04:15
=== aynjell isn't hardcore.
mebaran151DAC1138, what's your point?04:15
=== aynjell bought the audigy becuuse he hated dmix.
epilochow can i see a list of running apps?04:15
funkyHatwhich is really annoying as i have 2 soundcards04:15
mebaran151epiloc top04:15
crimsunricosuave17, which sound chipset are you using?04:15
DAC1138mebaran151, do i need one?04:15
aynjellfunkyHat, and?04:15
ubuntunewbwhy is it that when i push ' that i get an < symbol in terminal?04:15
hondjeI have no clue what sound system I use :D04:15
ricosuave17it worked thanks04:16
mebaran151DAC1138, I dont know04:16
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hondjeIt works, I'm not touching it04:16
mebaran151just wondering what's bugging you04:16
DAC1138mebaran151, then dont ask04:16
aynjell1 gets used with skype.04:16
aynjellThe other is the primary.04:16
mebaran151I dont think I phrased that correctly ...04:16
DAC1138mebaran151, if you dont even know, why ask?04:16
ksmurfhello all....... I have issues with icons in gnome.  I tried to install an icon theme but now my mp3 and ogg files look like folders.  How can I fix this?04:16
mebaran151eh, because you seem a tad uninformed, just a tad04:16
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mebaran151haha04:16
Matthew_II need to dual boot winXP and ubuntu on this machine, I know how to resize my partitions and install and such, but how do I restore grub once I am finished installing windows?04:16
DAC1138mebaran151, a tad? lol. okay, and that bothers you?04:16
mebaran151nah04:16
DAC1138mebaran151, so why'd you bring it up?04:17
mebaran151do whatever you want, I really dont care all that much04:17
DAC1138im curious04:17
aynjellWell, nice talking to you guys. If gentoo32 don't cut it, I'll be sure to scurry  over here again.04:17
mebaran151just asking why I asked what your point was04:17
mebaran151aynjell, heheh04:17
aynjellLater.04:17
crimsunmebaran151, DAC1138, stop it.04:17
funkyHataynjell, same, but i can't get it configured, i'm sure it's just me being incompetent though :P04:17
mebaran151gentoo ... can ... kill04:17
aynjellfunkyHat, well... what two cards are they?04:17
aynjellmebaran151, sure it can. So does speed. :-P04:17
DAC1138crimsun, sure thing, i was just wondering what he's on about. im done04:17
ksmurfgentoo will kill.... or cause you to04:17
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aynjellksmurf, for those that can't appreciate it's uses, yes.04:17
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ksmurfI have issues with icons in gnome.  I tried to install an icon theme but now my mp3 and ogg files look like folders.  How can I fix this?04:18
tritiumno distro wars please04:18
mebaran151aynjell, eh, I had just had a bad experience, but I think it was because I compiled it for AMD6404:18
funkyHatnForce 2 onboard 5.1, creative audigy LS04:18
aynjelltritium, not where I'm going with it. :)04:18
mebaran151and nothing really compiles to cleanly yet04:18
aynjellmebaran151, oh, that's what I'm leaving now.04:18
mebaran151ah04:18
aynjell64 bit gentoo is ass.04:18
DAC1138ksmurf, copy&paste the same question twice only annoys, not helps. maybe there's something wrong with your icon theme04:18
mebaran151Gentoo 32 bit might be pretty nice04:18
mebaran151I dont know; I got fed up04:18
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DAC1138ksmurf, try another theme, there's probably no icon associated with mp3 files for our current theme04:19
bimberiMatthew_I: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows04:19
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zerboxxHow would I go about creating a "startscript"?04:19
Matthew_Ibimberi, thanks04:19
bimberiMatthew_I: yw :)04:19
epilocok, everytime i try to add a printer, the printer manager just freezes... i have a feeling it is due to a buggy driver i installed a few days ago (originally in rpm converted to deb with alien)  so i uninstalled the drivers yet the printer manager still freezes upon opening04:19
epilocany suggestions?04:19
crimsunzerboxx, write a script, then read the update-rc.d man page for instructions on hooking it into Ubuntu's startup procedure.04:20
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elmagozizouIs there some command like fixmbr on linux?04:20
aynjellelmagozizou, no.04:20
DAC1138elmagozizou, running lilo or reinstalling the bootloader you mean?04:20
aynjellWhat boot loader does ubuntu use?04:20
_mikeshouldn't there be an area in the control center to change the login screen theme?04:20
crimsungrub04:20
_mikegrub aynjell04:20
bimberiaynjell: grub04:20
crimsun(by default)04:20
aynjellKay.04:20
aynjellThen reinstall grub?04:20
elmagozizouyeah04:20
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funkyHataynjell, nForce 2 onboard 5.1, creative audigy LS04:21
crimsunif you choose and configure lvm in the installer, it uses lilo04:21
elmagozizouis because is frecuently that someone has grub problems or somethig04:21
aynjellfunkyHat, okay. Big mistake getting the LS. :-P04:21
ricosuave17does ubnutu have gnustep support04:21
aynjellThose weren't supported for some time.04:21
aynjellDo they even have a hardware mixer?04:21
FreedomzenCan someone help me set up Wireless for an HP laptop?04:21
funkyHati was given it :(04:21
funkyHati have a feeling they don't04:22
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elmagozizouand the only wey to fix MBR tht I know is fixmbr...but I want to know is there is somnthing like that in linux from a livecd or somethig...04:22
crimsunthe LSes have hardware mixers, yes, though I'm not sure that's what you're asking (probably whether the dsp has multiopen)04:22
_mikehow do i change the login screen theme?04:22
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_mikeanyon enkow?04:23
tritium_mike, gnome or kde?04:23
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abarbacciadamn this transcode thing is killllling me!04:23
funkyHat_mike, system > administration > login screen setup04:23
mebaran151abarbaccia, how so?04:23
mebaran151I have you tried acidrip?04:24
_mikefunkyhat kde?04:24
abarbacciai added the debian marillot sources (testing - now called etch) and it still refuses to install -04:24
abarbacciamebaran151, i need transcode for mythtv04:24
hondjeabarbaccia: isn't it in backports?04:24
elmagozizouDAC1138, any options?04:24
abarbacciahondje, not that i know of04:24
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hondjeOh04:24
mebaran151abaraccia, you could just use mencoder04:24
DAC1138elmagozizou, reboot with the live cd and reinstall grub04:24
mebaran151I think it shoudl work, and it uses a cleaner codec04:24
abarbacciano, i need transcode for mythtv - it calls transcode commands04:24
mebaran151oh04:25
SaumZWhat file do I need to edit so I can set my pah variable system wide fo Java.04:25
DAC1138elmagozizou, or actually, reboot with the install cd04:25
mebaran151you want transcode just transcode nothing more nothing less04:25
funkyHat_mike, dunno then. you still use gdm?04:25
mebaran151just compile from src and checkinstall04:25
DAC1138elmagozizou, there should be a repair/reinstall the bootloader04:25
abarbacciayea, its a pain - and in breezy apparently transcode works beautifully04:25
hondjeyou SURE it's not in hoary extras?04:25
_mikeyea funkyhat04:25
funkyHatgksudo gdmsetup04:25
ksmurfDAC1138 sorry to be annoying.04:25
elmagozizouDAC1138, how do i do that from the live cd?04:25
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mebaran151abarbaccia, it is always best to do that04:25
abarbacciahondje, whats the source for hoary extras  i dont think i put thato n there04:25
DAC1138elmagozizou, do you have the install cd?04:25
_mikei've done it before they have themes but for some reason. i can't figure out how to change the login manager theme!04:25
_mikegahh04:26
DAC1138ksmurf, did you fix it?04:26
ksmurfDAC1138 Is there a way to associate icons with file types?04:26
mebaran151whenever I am going to use a processor intensive app, I always compile from source04:26
funkyHator just sudo gdmsetup04:26
SaumZWhat file do I need to edit so I can set my pah variable system wide fo Java.04:26
elmagozizouDAC1138, yeah04:26
DAC1138ksmurf, im not sure, i dont mess with my icon themes much04:26
mebaran151the processor optimizations can pay off04:26
hondjedeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted04:26
ksmurfThanks04:26
mebaran151I doubt you use an i38604:26
SaumZpah/path04:26
DAC1138elmagozizou, im not sure how you would reinstall grub, i only know lilo04:26
_mikethanks it funkyhat thanks04:26
DAC1138elmagozizou, but try the install cd04:27
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bimberielmagozizou: This is one way - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows04:27
elmagozizouDAC1138, but I all ready solve the problem with a windows rescue disk...but Im wondering just to not depend on windows...04:27
ricosuave17does someone here know about gnustep04:27
elmagozizoubimberi, thenx04:27
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bimberielmagozizou: yw :)04:28
abarbacciahondje i want to fucking kiss you right now - i've been working on this for a week04:28
abarbaccialol04:28
hondje:)04:28
SPCCrow!info lynx04:28
mebaran151ricosuave17, I have always wanted to know about GNUStep04:28
SaumZWhat file do I need to edit so I can set my path variable system wide fo Java.04:28
ubotulynx: (Text-mode WWW Browser), section web, is optional. Version: 2.8.5-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1811 kB, Installed size: 4580 kB04:28
mebaran151it looks like an interesting piece of software04:28
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SPCCrowcan anyone give me a url to wget lynx from?04:29
hondjegnustep is in universe04:29
hondjethere's even a gnustep meta package, so sudo apt-get install gnustep to get started04:29
funkyHatSPCCrow, why not use apt?04:29
hondjeexit04:29
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ricosuave17i have gnustep04:29
ricosuave17i just dont know were to find programs for gnustep04:30
SPCCrowfunkyHat: not currently using ubuntu =)04:30
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Daveyabarbaccia: just curious, what was your problem?04:30
DaveySPCCrow: what are you using?04:30
abarbacciaDavey, dependency issues04:30
Daveyabarbaccia: oh, heh04:30
SPCCrowDavey: Novell 9, and x server won't load properly, so i need text browser04:30
SaumZWhat file do I need to edit so I can set my path variable system wide fo Java.  :(04:30
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DaveySPCCrow: Novell Desktop 9?04:31
SPCCrowDavey: yeah04:31
kyle__saumz edit /etc/profile04:31
Daveytry running "yast" it should let you install lynx/elinks/links04:31
SPCCrowDavey: in console?04:31
DaveySPCCrow: yeah04:31
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SaumZhmm.. it's close to empty04:31
DaveySPCCrow: yast2 is GUI04:31
DaveyIIRC04:32
kyle__add the java/bin directory to the path04:32
Daveyanyways, I'm off to bed04:32
kyle__in it04:32
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SaumZk04:32
Guest_545Hey, I'm about ready to quit for the night.04:32
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ricosuave17can someone help me with gnustep04:32
Guest_545Basically, before I go---I was playing with the Ubuntu installer in expert mode.04:32
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Guest_545And... it's not loading some of the basic drivers properly.04:32
Guest_545THAT'S why I think it doesn't work.04:32
adwaithey..my ubuntu install has suddenly become unstable......sometimes when i start schat or firefox, and i try to type something the apps just close down........when i start them from the terminal, the error message for firefox is segmentation fault04:33
Guest_545It's said it can't load the modules ide-mod, ide-probe-mod, ide-detect, and ide-floppy... For the Linux IDE, Linux IDE probe driver, Linux IDE detection, and Linux IDE floppy.04:33
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supernixdoes it matter if you use kdm or gdm for the default display manager ?04:34
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adwaitsupernix: gdm is the login manager if im not mistaken04:36
Daveygdm is Ubuntu, kdm is Kubuntu04:36
hondjeis there a way to turn off dbl-clicking in gnome?04:36
Daveyeither will work :)04:36
ricosuave17whats the .deb tool in ubuntu04:36
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ksmurfgdm is gnome kdm is KDE04:36
funkyHatricosuave17, dpkg04:36
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ksmurf1 file... k done04:37
supernixOk I was not sure so I thought I would ask it didn't sound like a detrimental decision since as I undestand it they are only a vehicle for logging into whichever windows mananger you like04:37
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Daveyhondje: System > Preferences > File Management > Behavior > Single Click to Activate Items (first radio button)04:37
ricosuave17what switch do i have to use with dpkg to install a .deb04:37
Davey-i04:37
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adwaitricosuave17: sudo dpkg -i <filename>04:38
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tritiumricosuave17, "man dpkg" is good to review04:38
zerboxxIs it possible to accept a webcam session with amsn?  From what I read I should be able to, but when my friend tries to set it up, it tells me amsn can't do it.04:38
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supernixOk guys I have to try this out hope all goes well04:38
adwaitzerboxx: afaik........nope04:38
zerboxxadwait: ....damn04:38
adwaitu could try gaim (actually a particulr offshoot of the gaim project) specifically made for multimedia uses04:39
adwaiti cant remember its name though04:39
hondjeDavey: thanks, I was looking in the wrong place04:39
Daveyhondje: np :)04:39
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HawkMandoes Ubuntu 5.04 come with any tools for configuring the X server, runnign at 60 hz is annoying :) Can't seem to find any tools even in the synaptic. just the auto discover during setup.04:40
_mikecrap! i installed a new login theme and it didn't work and brought me to a default screen04:40
Kyralxorgconf04:40
tritiumadwait, gaim-vv, but he'd have to build a bunch of additional libraries.  (in short, a pain)04:40
hondjeHawkMan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:40
Kyralfrom the command line04:40
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tritiumno, please don't use xorgconf04:40
_mikei'm supposed to login but my keyboard doesn't work there for some reason. im in a virtuall terminal now. is there a command line command i can use to change the login theme to default!!!!04:41
_mikei'm really stuck04:41
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Kyraloh, yah, I forgot....I know what I'm doing (you know how many times I have run that utility since I started running Linux?)04:41
zerboxxtritium: You mentioned setting up gaim-vv is a pain, is there any other option if I want to view webcam through someone using M$ and msn?04:41
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adwaitcan someone tell me how to set up a cron job to run an x app?04:42
Proteque_zerboxx: amsn04:42
Davey_mike: try deleting the theme and copying one you know works over it? :)04:42
tritiumzerboxx, no, I don't think so.  However, gnomemeeting should work with MS Netmeeting.04:42
Proteque_zerboxx: the binaries from cvs04:42
DaveyProteque_: he just said it doesn't work04:42
Proteque_sorry04:42
_mikedavey thanks ill try04:42
adwaitProteque_: how come?? i have amsn and it doesnt hv videa capabilities04:42
adwait*video04:42
Proteque_adwait: from cvs?04:43
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adwaitProteque_: umm....i apt-get ot04:43
adwait*it04:43
Proteque_adwait: then you dont :)04:43
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zerboxxProteque_: What? binaries from cvs?04:43
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Proteque_zerboxx: nightly builds04:43
Proteque_from cvs04:43
Deep7anyone got a deb of tuxnes?04:43
zerboxxProteque_: So the nightly build of amsn has webcam support?04:44
ilba7rwhen i run evince i get this error message opening pdf file "Bad bounding box in Type 3 glyph" and the fonts are really messed up anyone know how to rectify that04:44
Proteque_zerboxx: yeah. visit the amsn-page04:44
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ricosuave17man i have a problem wiht my font dpi04:44
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Kyralhmm04:44
tritiumilba7r, is that error specific to a particular document?04:44
ilba7rtritium no04:44
zerboxxProteque_: Is it safe to use in your opinion though?04:44
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_mikeif i installed a login theme: theme.tar.gz and its currupted and wont let me login. by deleting theme.tar.gz fix anything?04:45
KyralI hope my "homebrew" XChat package won't bork up when I upgrade to breezy..04:45
_mikei really need to change the login theme back to default with the command line04:45
Proteque_zerboxx: well :P it may crash a bit.04:45
deangCan someone direct me where to get more than 60hz (at 1024x768) out of my Gforce4MX card?  I've installed the NVIDIA packages through Synaptics.04:45
zerboxxProteque_: Hmmm a risk, I just might have to take :) thanks for the info04:45
Kyralshouldn't...I made it it with the Breezy Sources and it uses the breezy version number04:46
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MrGardenHoseMandeang: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FixVideoResolutionHowto04:46
MrGardenHoseManyou have to know horizontal and vertical frequencies of your monitor04:46
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deang3 hours at one beer.. that is work!04:47
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Sponge_Ubuntu... ubuntu.. tralalala!04:48
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concept10:004:49
=== Sponge_ felt the blessing from ubuntu... Please, stand up and raise your head, my son ...
Sponge_Ubuntu talked to me !!!04:49
Sponge_:)04:49
ernieHI Sponge04:49
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Sponge_hi there...04:50
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Sponge_thanx concept10 T-T04:51
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ricosuave17how do i get the newest alsa drivers04:51
Sponge_I just wanted to share my happiness... but no one understand me....04:51
jeranWhat is wrong with backports?04:51
Sponge_T-T04:51
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Sponge_jeran: nothing. Backports.apt worked quite nice on my ubuntu :)04:51
DAC1138Sponge_, we understand all too well04:52
DAC1138Sponge_, ubuntu is awsome04:52
ajmitchSponge_: nah, I don't really understand such a reaction :)04:52
tritiumjeran, backports are unofficial04:52
DAC1138Sponge_, but i was able to hold in my hapiness and keep from dancing04:52
Sponge_DAC1198: But I've got a party here!04:52
Sponge_:P04:52
hondjebackports are official now04:53
Kyralw00t!04:53
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Sponge_hondje: What did you say? the backports are official? when??? where???04:53
KyralBackports RULE!04:53
ricosuave17someone how do i get the newest alsa04:53
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frank_how official?04:53
tritiumTo quote the RestrictedFormats wiki page "The hoary-extras repository is an unoffical community project. The packages in this repository are not supported by Canonical Ltd. or Ubuntu!!!"04:53
KyralOfficial OFFICAL04:53
hondjehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4858304:54
hondjetritium: it changed a month ago or so04:54
robertjAmazing. I didn't know there was an official supported hoary-extras branch104:54
ricosuave17?? anyone plz04:54
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Sponge_Wow...04:54
deangI have an NVidia card (Gforce4mx), and in configuring xserver-xorg I have the opportunity to chose an "nvidia" driver or "nv" (The "nv" was the selected default..   )  guidance, please.04:54
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ajmitchhondje: only a month? I thought it was longer than that04:55
frank_deang: for 3d acceleration: nvidia04:55
ice_1963Debian Sarge Rock's :0)04:55
arguhohhey...got a questions for anyone - why is ubuntu not able to get past "An installation step has failed... The failing step is: Load installer components from CD." just after selecting the three "English" options, but I can install gentoo and debian without problems?04:55
hondjeajmitch: might be, but it was awhile back either way :)04:55
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jeranwhich repositories should I be using?04:55
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funkyHatdeang, nvidia, but you will need to install nvidia-glx (available in multiverse i believe)04:55
zerboxxAnyhelp with a wine problem.  I've followed a set of instruction for installing Warcraft 3, but I need to create a startscript, and I have no idea what I'm to do04:55
ricosuave17hello help plz04:55
ricosuave17help plz04:56
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robertjarguahoh: is the cd a good burn?04:56
Sponge_zerboxx: Are you using Wine or WineX?04:56
zerboxxSponge_: Wine, as you have to pay for WineX, correct?04:56
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DAC1138you can cet winex (cedega) from cvs for free04:56
Sponge_Zerboxx: You're right. However, Wine's DirectX Support still sucks.04:56
Sponge_and cedega is another option.04:57
ricosuave17anyone plz04:57
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DAC1138zerboxx, its the prebuilt winex packages you have to pay for04:57
ricosuave17comeone04:57
_mikeoh man that was scary i fixed it. login theme was currupted and crashed wouldn't let me in. but i booted to a terminal logged in as root then ran startx and changed back to defautl04:57
Sponge_zerboxx: Get VMWare Workstation and install windows on it... then you can have war3 on win32 on linux...04:57
DAC1138Sponge_, cedega == winex04:57
_mikescared me for a second though i was screwed04:57
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Sponge_(quite cool!)04:57
Sponge_DAC118... Damned lag...04:57
zerboxxSponge_: Does that means I have to install windows?!04:58
Kyral NO NO NO NO!04:58
DAC1138zerboxx, go to transgaming.org and get the cvs winex for free04:58
Sponge_zerboxx: In a virtual machine...04:58
ricosuave17yes install windows04:58
funkyHatzerboxx, yes, it would mean that04:58
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Kyralor pay 15 bucks for Cedega "Pro"04:58
Sponge_Kyral: Wait... I love playing with virtual machines... FreeBSD and Win32 are coexisting pacifically on my ubuntu (and gaming rocks!)04:58
desrtcedega is evil04:59
desrti wish it would go away already04:59
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tritiumhondje, I guess that means they've fixed backports so they don't make upgrading to new releases difficult?04:59
KyralI <3 Cedega04:59
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DAC1138desrt, so anything that improves upon something already open soruce is evil?04:59
desrti <3 free software04:59
funkyHatnight all04:59
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desrtDAC1138; wine is now GPL for a reason.04:59
aynjellAnd uh, yes, cedega threatens linux.04:59
Kyralumm04:59
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ricosuave17check plz04:59
DAC1138have i been devoiced!!!??? CEDEGA IS FREE VIA CVS!!05:00
KyralCedega helps Linux...05:00
aynjellDAC1138, either way, it has already nixed one port.05:00
DAC1138transgaming.org has all the instructions to get and configure winex through cvs05:00
aynjellThat's all I need to hear.05:00
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=== aynjell loves linux native software
DAC1138Sponge_, i loved them at one time, then it took 27 hours to install xp on this machine. and i gave up05:00
desrtDAC1138; and yet they threaten distros, warning them not to package their software05:00
desrtDAC1138; sounds quite open....05:00
aynjelldesrt, exactly.05:01
Sponge_DAC1138: Ur kiddin'? no way!05:01
DAC1138desrt, it does. more so than M$05:01
aynjellDAC1138, that means nothing.05:01
desrt"better than microsoft" isn't a great argument :)05:01
DAC1138Sponge_, yeah, i gave up installing it. that progress bar was crawling05:01
aynjellSCO supports us more than microsoft.05:01
aynjellBUt sco is a badguy nonetheless.05:01
Sponge_anyway I just installed a tweaked version of m$win98... just for gaming.05:01
DAC1138Sponge_, when it said "15 minutes remaining ir really meant "15 hours remaining"05:01
jeranshould I leave the respositories that came 'on' with Ubuntu like it is, or is it safe to get other things?05:01
ricosuave17whats the name of the graphical apt-get tool05:01
desrtjeran; some other things are safe05:01
tritiumricosuave17, synaptic05:02
desrtjeran; some are more likely to destablise your box05:02
Sponge_DAC1138: hahaha... I haven't tryed the winxp installation yet. Just win98.05:02
rommercan serving web pages be parallelized?05:02
desrtjeran; certainly, adding universe and multiverse is fine (and recommended)05:02
desrtrommer; already is05:02
Rubin_jeran: i have almost everything on ubuntuguide.org installed and no probelms yet :)05:02
jeranI'm fresh from Windows XP, but i have some linux knowledge.. atleast I like to pretend I do, heh05:02
DAC1138Sponge_, xp installed fine, in about 30 minutes on another laptop thats about half as fast as this one05:02
desrtrommer; if you fire up apache it starts 6 or so processes... if the webserver gets a lot of hits it starts even more05:02
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DAC1138Sponge_, this is a 2.2 ghz with 768 mb ram, that thing is a 1.1 ghz with 512, i have no idea what happened to make it so slow05:02
danielsthe cedega discussion is off-topic here05:03
fr500hello05:03
desrtdaniels; i was waiting for someone to call that :)05:03
rommerdesrt: so if you had more than one computer acting as the web serving it will be able to process faster?05:03
Sponge_DAC1138: Whoa... My desk is a 1.8 ghz / 768 mb ram... and It really works!05:03
desrtrommer; oh.  that's load distributions05:03
desrtrommer; there's several ways to do that... the easiest to round-robin DNS05:03
aynjell2.5Ghz here.05:03
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aynjellWell, 2.4.2 right now.05:04
aynjellI gotta raise voltage and fsb to get it to 2.52 stable.05:04
aynjell:)05:04
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fr500i have a question, i found somewhere 10 ide 200gb disks, i know i can use evms to make a raid array or something with them, but (sorry for being off topic) is there a way to add more than 4 ide devices on a signle pc?05:04
rommerdesrt: does that mean every computer has a mirror of the files on the server?05:04
fr500**single05:04
DAC1138daniels, just curious, why is cedega (software) off topic, but gentoo (a completely separate distro) isnt?05:04
desrtrommer; basically05:04
tritium.05:04
aynjellfr500, get another ide card.05:04
desrtrommer; you setup a couple of machines with exactly the same document root05:04
Sponge_fr500: Get a PCI-IDE controller and problem solved!05:04
aynjellYou'll need another controller is all.05:04
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desrtrommer; then you setup DNS with multiple A records05:04
desrtrommer; like:05:04
danielsDAC1138: off-topic things are fine, as long as they don't spawn huge discussions that fill up two screens or more05:04
desrtwww     A    192.168.0.105:04
desrtwww     A    192.168.0.205:04
danielsDAC1138: i.e., in passing05:04
aynjellPCI cards should only support another 4, though, right?05:05
fr500Sponge_, the limit is the number of pci slots available then?05:05
DAC1138daniels, ah, i see the difference now05:05
danielsDAC1138: (if there was a Gentoo discussion, I missed it while I was getting lunch)05:05
desrtand then randomly, when people go to www.yoursite.com they'll go to one machine or the other05:05
Sponge_fr500: Right.05:05
rommeryep05:05
fr500aynjell, thanks, Sponge_ thanks05:05
desrtrommer; there are a lot more advanced methods too that might work out better for you05:05
aynjellSure.05:05
Sponge_U'r welcomed.05:05
DAC1138daniels, i thought this was just some nazi regime, lol. i see the point though05:05
rommerhow would that work with reading and writing to mysql databases05:05
elmagozizouDoes Anyone knows About documentation about the uses of a livecd? I mean for personal use, recovery etc...05:05
tritiumDAC1138, that gentoo discussion went on for long enough that I asked that there not be a distro war05:05
desrtrommer; as long as you use a single database and the webservers themselves are stateless, you're fine05:05
deangthanks MrGardenHoseMan and funkyHat!!05:05
Sponge_fr500: Anyway, get a SCSI RAID card.... it's 10 times better!05:06
desrtrommer; things like phpbb, for example, are fine05:06
fr500Sponge_, but the disks are ide05:06
rommerdesrt: so all the htdocs and mysql database are on one machine, but the others link to it?05:06
Sponge_talking about hdd's... is possible to install "humanity to others" (or whatever it means) to a SCSI drive?05:06
desrtrommer; you can make multiple copies of static content and scripts05:07
desrtrommer; but you need a single database05:07
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rommerok05:07
desrtrommer; or multiple database servers with replication05:07
DAC1138Sponge_, i think so, dont macs use scsi?05:07
fr500Sponge_, an unrequested shipment came to my office, it was more expensive to return them, so we bought them ($50 each)05:07
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rommerdesrt: thanks, i think i get it now05:07
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deangyou guys rock!  I'm at 75hz!!  :D :D :D05:07
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KyralYes, we do rock05:08
dam_im trying to follow instructions HERE - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AmericasArmy05:08
dam_i cant run - sudo ./armyops230-linux.run05:08
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Sponge_DAC1138: But... ubuntu didn't like my scsi.... I mean, when I tried to install it, a message appeared saying "No ide discs were found"... and I said "HELL!"05:08
desrtdam_; did you chmod +x armyops230-linux.run ?05:08
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Sponge_fr500: Have fun arranging an RAID5!05:09
desrtdam_; on linux, you have to mark a program as 'executable' (+x) before you can run it....05:09
desrtdam_; it's sort of like the equivilent of a file being .exe on windows05:09
DAC1138Sponge_, ick. guess just your model isnt supported05:09
Sponge_fr500: Better yet! Get an old PC and build your very customized storage server!05:09
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DAC1138eh, im trying to build a storage server, having a hard time building it05:09
pdghowdy, does anyone have a link to some ATI OpenGL howto?05:09
Sponge_buuuu T-T05:10
dam_ok, cheers05:10
desrtpdg; what sort of card do you have?05:10
DAC1138got an old compaq running mandrake 10 on it, samba isnt working in ubuntu05:10
jmspeexAren't all debian packages supposed to also be available for Ubuntu?05:10
pdgdesrt: Radeon 970005:10
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desrtpdg; you'll need fglrx, then05:10
jmspeexIs so, where can I get them?05:10
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desrtpdg; apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx05:10
pdgI have it05:10
tritiumpdg, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto05:10
erniehow do i install a network printer using tcp protocol?05:11
pdgtritium: I'm trying to stay within Ubuntu software05:11
desrtpdg; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?highlight=%28fglrx%2905:11
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tritiumpdg, yep, follow that link then05:11
goodtodhi i'm having trouble booting the livecd on my laptop when i boot it up the ubuntu logo is all scrambled and then the screen goes blank does anybody have any ideas?05:11
desrtpdg; this document is a little bit out of date, though05:11
desrtpdg; you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change your video driver to "fglrx"05:11
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SogniXI have a little fstab issue... I can mount drives fine - but it mounts them as root, so regular user can't write to / delete from them. How can I made fstab mount drives as a certain user (or only allow certain people)?05:11
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rommerdesrt: can i make a mirror of static files using rsync?05:12
pdgdesrt: it's already fglrx05:12
desrtrommer; yes.  rsync is a good solution for that05:12
desrtpdg; you should be set, then.05:12
rommerok thanks05:12
pdgthat's what I thought, but fgl_gears doesn't start05:12
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desrtpdg; glxinfo | grep irect05:12
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pdgdirect rendering: No05:13
pdgOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect05:13
desrt:)05:13
desrti mean :(05:13
pdgyup05:13
desrtlsmod | grep fglrx05:13
pdgI ran fglrxconfig too05:13
pdgfglrx                 237088  005:13
tarvidhow do i burn an iso with ubuntu? cd/dvd careator doesn't appear to have that option?05:13
desrt>:|05:13
desrtweird.05:13
pdgI know05:13
pdgit's so weird05:13
desrtpdg; i assume you restarted X...05:13
Sponge_tarvid: Get gnomebaker! :P05:14
stephanshey hey!!!05:14
desrtpdg; take a look through your X server log... /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:14
fr500Sponge_, that is what i'm doing :p05:14
stephanssay again....05:14
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pdgdesrt: I was having some other kind of troubles with a NVidia, so I changed the video card, and now there's something else05:14
desrtpdg; search for things like "fglrx" and "direct"05:14
pdgok hold on05:14
desrtpdg; might give some hints05:14
stephanshow do we configure 3D acceleration in ubuntu?05:14
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fr500stephans, what card?05:14
stephansati05:14
fr500hmmm05:14
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stephansflglrx05:14
bimberitarvid: right-clicking on the file in nautilus should give a "write to disc" option or something05:14
tritiumstephans, , http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto05:15
desrtstephans; hah.  pdg is trying to do exactly that as we speak.05:15
pdg:)05:15
tarvidSponge_, thanks - I'll get used to gnome one of these days05:15
pdghowdy stephans05:15
Sponge_I'm leaving... I'm hungry and my stomach is empty. I have a lot of japanese animation which is wating to be watched, so... bye bye...05:15
frank_pdg 3d doesn't work?05:15
stephanslucky me!05:15
stephanschecking the url...05:15
Sponge_tarvid: anyway, If you have patience, you might get "kubuntu-desktop"... (all the kde stuff)05:15
pdgfrank_: I moved the NVidia to a windows PC, and it works fine, so it's not a hardware problem (at least not with the card)05:15
pdgfrank_: now I'm trying an ATI05:16
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xuniluserHELP: I can't install anjunta on my ubuntu 5.0.4, with these error during configure "configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool"05:16
pdgfrank_, desrt: AHA!05:16
pdg(EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work05:16
frank_pdg: really? wow I have a FX 5900XT which is almost the same as yours and have had no problems05:16
Sponge_xuniluser: Have you tried apt-get install anjuta05:16
hondjeisn't an fx5900 a nvidia card?05:17
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pdgfrank_: I'm afraid it's a motherboard problem05:17
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xuniluserSponge: yes but it says "Can't find package anjunta"05:17
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Sponge_xuniluser: What about your repositories? Have you set them right?05:17
frank_hondje: earlier today, he was trying with a 590005:18
Knowledge_I love it when everything goes good after a fresh install05:18
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ricosuave17SEX05:18
tritiumpdg, can you "modinfo fglrx" please?05:18
tarvidbimberi, looks like that worked, i feared i would make a cd with the iso as a file05:18
tritiumricosuave17, cut it out05:18
hondjeah05:18
ricosuave17well then help me with my new alsa drivers05:18
xuniluserSponge: how? (sorry for this lame question)05:18
tarvidis there a good site to search for packages?05:18
Sponge_xuniluser: I'm a rookie to, so don't worry...05:18
tritiumricosuave17, please ask nicely05:18
bimberitarvid: synaptic provides an interface for the repositories that you have enabled.  Otherwise there's http://packages.ubuntu.com05:19
ricosuave17ok. can someone plz tell me how can i get the newwst alsa05:19
Jinanyone know where i can get drivers so that ubuntu will work properly on a dell machine with the Intel 82865 chipset?05:19
rommerdesrt: if i setup a dns round robin will sessions (like in php) still work?05:19
desrtrommer; depends on if they store server-side state05:19
desrtrommer; if it's all cookies, you're fine05:19
desrtrommer; if there's a statefile on the server, you're not fine05:19
tarvidbimberi, i was poking at synaptic but i didn't find gnomebaker for example05:20
rommeryea thats what i thought05:20
desrtrommer; another thing you could do is make the main page redirect you to www1. www2. www3. etc05:20
pdgfilename:       /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko05:20
pdgauthor:         Fire GL - ATI Research GmbH, Germany05:20
pdgdescription:    ATI Fire GL05:20
pdglicense:        Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY05:20
pdgvermagic:       2.6.10-5-686 preempt 686 gcc-3.305:20
tarvidthe other day i was looking for kernel options (himem) and it seemed to be a struggle05:20
pdgtritium: (sorry about the flood)05:20
desrtpdg; paste not, lest ye be pasted.05:20
pdgsorreh :P05:21
rommerdesrt: i dont understand that last bit05:21
tritiumpdg, it's okay05:21
tritiumWe've had much longer pastes05:21
pdg:)05:21
frank_FireGL isn't that a pro card?05:21
ricosuave17can anyone plz help me?05:21
tritiumricosuave17, you want to build newer alsa modules?05:22
gijoshHey.  How do you add a launcher to the applications menu?05:22
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ricosuave17i just want to have the newest alsa but it seems there is no package05:22
pdgfrank_: FireGL is about 1.5 years old now, I think05:22
bimberitarvid: you probably need to add extra repositories then05:22
tritiumricosuave17, right, hoary already released, so there are only security fixes05:23
ricosuave17ok so what to do?05:23
tritiumdo you need them, or just want them?05:23
ajmitchricosuave17: why do you want a newer alsa driver?05:23
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ricosuave17because i need to use multiple sounds05:26
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pdgdesrt: do you have any clue what that conflicting module could be?05:26
MrGardenHoseManwhat's the pacakage name for flash?05:26
Hikaru79Can someone explain to me how to chroot a user into a subdirectory of their home directory on vsftpd?05:27
desrtpdg; hm?05:27
desrtpdg; i stopped paying attention, sorry :)05:27
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pdgoh, it's ok05:27
desrtpdg; the module looked like it was loaded fine, though05:27
desrtpdg; maybe it's an AGP thing?05:27
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desrtpdg; like it expects to use the system AGPgart and it's not loaded05:27
desrtor it wants to use its own and the system one is loaded05:27
pdgyeah, but it said there's an incompatible module, hence no 3D acceleration05:27
pdguhmm05:27
desrtoh05:27
desrtX server module, maybe05:28
desrtdid you enable composite?05:28
Xyc0Is Cedega released in Deb packages now?05:28
pdgI don't remember that05:28
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desrtpdg; look for an "Extensions" section in your X config05:28
desrtor "Modules" lines05:28
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desrtlike Load   "dbe"05:28
desrtstuff like that05:28
pdgok05:29
desrtit's probably one of those t hat's breaking your 3d accel05:29
ricosuave17so can someone give me an idea05:29
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desrtdid it mention one specifically?05:29
pdgno composite, or anything similar05:29
pdgdesrt: ?05:29
desrtpdg; the line that said a module was incompatible... did it say which module?05:29
naliothhah05:30
naliotham back05:30
desrtmaybe even a little bit above or below the error05:30
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pdgdesrt: (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work05:30
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pdg(II) fglrx(0): [drm]  removed 1 reserved context for kernel05:30
pdgdrm?05:31
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pdgthere's no drm in the xorg.conf05:31
desrtpdg; weird!05:31
desrtpdg; so it is a kernel module then05:31
desrtpdg; do you have 'agpgart' module loaded?05:31
desrtlsmod | grep agpgart05:31
pdgdesrt: yeah05:32
ricosuave17plz can someone help me get the newest alsa version05:32
desrtwhat is its usecount?05:32
pdgagpgart                33608  1 intel_agp05:32
desrtok05:32
desrtthere should be some AGP line in your X config05:32
desrtwhat does it say?05:32
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desrtlike "UseInternalAGPGart" "on" or something like that05:32
NoHopehello all05:32
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pdgdesrt:     Option "UseInternalAGPGART"         "no"05:33
NoHopehey, isn't  there [apt-get install php] ?05:33
desrtpdg; well.. there goes that theory :)05:33
pdg:)05:33
tritiumNoHope, "apt-cache search php"05:33
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NoHopetritium, thx, I'll try.05:33
desrtpdg; just on a last-ditch effort, you could try changing that to "yes" and unload intel_agp and agpgart modules05:33
pdgI can try...05:34
pdgso change that, unload/load, and restart xorg?05:34
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desrtchange it, unload05:34
desrtdon't reload the modules05:34
socommNoHope: Trying using synaptic.05:34
NoHopetritium, I found. thx.05:35
NoHopesocomm, thx.05:35
tritiumNoHope, sure.  It was a long list, huh?05:35
manobrohi, Im need some help, I can connect using x-chat, apt-get, ping (and all other probgrans in terminal), but my firefox, gain, and other in gnome cant connect :(05:35
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manobroanybody can help me, please05:35
Big_Ohmmm wheres the start sesion script O_O05:36
pdgdesrt: intel_agp is in use, and agpgart is needed by it05:36
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Big_Oim not sure if the mean the x session or not though05:36
pdglet me restart the server and see05:36
desrtpdg; oh right.  that makes sense.  fglrx would be using them05:36
NoHopetritium, yes... a lot of things.05:36
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wendyhello05:36
tritiumNoHope, yeah, more specific searches help with that05:36
pdganyway, this is my last try today05:36
wendydoes anyone know where in about:config in firefox you configure which email program you use?05:37
pdgso thanks a lot, desrt, tritium, frank_ and... someone else I can't recall05:37
socommwendy: Try searching for the email key value.05:37
tritiumpdg, sure.  Good luck05:37
socommwendy: Also try gconf, that might be of some help as well.05:37
wendygconf?05:38
wendyeven if I'm not using gnome?05:38
Sponge_hey Big_O: Where is dorothy??? :P05:38
wendyhow do I search about:config?05:38
wendyI'm trying to search the conventional way and "mail" isn't found, which isn't possible.05:38
Sponge_(Big_O: Did you watch that japanese animation? :P)05:39
tritiumwendy, in gnome, there's a Systems->Preferences->Preferred Applications where you can set default browser, email, and terminal.  I don't know if you're not using gnome.05:39
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wendyI"m in xfce now05:39
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wendyack05:40
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mosheI'm trying to set this up for my wife05:40
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socommmoshe: http://www.google.com05:41
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nopscan anybody help me ?05:42
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Big_O>_> ugh05:42
fr500nops, just ask05:42
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Big_Oremind me to give him shit next time i see him05:42
nopsmy net seens ok, but my firefox and gain cant connect to ani site/server05:43
eliUbuntuanyone here try to re-install xp with ubuntu on the other partition?05:43
fr500can you ping google?05:43
eliUbuntuyep05:43
eliUbuntujust did05:43
Big_Oyeah once05:43
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nopsyep05:43
fr500eliUbuntu, it works fine, it may break grub05:43
Big_Ofortunatly i wanted to reinstall ubuntu anyway05:43
fr500nops, then it should work05:43
nops15 packets transmitted, 15 received, 0% packet loss05:43
eliUbuntufr500, that is what i though. how do you repair the grub?05:43
fr500nops, do you have a proxy?05:43
Big_Oanyway05:44
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nopsnops, nat, and ubuntu was woring fine yesterday, today I made a apt-get dist-upgrade and now Im having problems05:44
fr500eliUbuntu, boot the live cd, go to a console, mount your boot partition, chroot to the mounter partition, then run grub-install hd0 (or the hard disk you used)05:44
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abbahello05:44
eliUbuntuim thinking about reinstalling ubuntu as well, saw the extra-CD05:44
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fr500nops, no clue05:44
fr500eliUbuntu, what extra cd?05:45
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eliUbuntuthe one listed on ubuntulinux.org05:45
abbahaving a problem installing mod_perl05:45
eliUbuntulet me get you the link05:45
fr500eliUbuntu, never seen it05:45
eliUbuntuone minute05:45
fr500eliUbuntu, what do you need XP for?05:45
dbernar1crimsun: ping...05:45
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abbaanyone have a link for ubuntu?05:45
nopswell, ill make a backup of the apt-get reposity and reinstall :(05:46
eliUbuntufr500 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com//UnofficialUbuntu504AddOnCD05:46
Knowledge_Anyone know how to make a Plantronics USB headset work?05:46
fr500nops, there is a Network Proxy dialog in system preferencesm did you check it?05:46
eliUbuntui used xp for media and graphics. linux cannot quite handle what i need for the graphics part05:46
fr500eliUbuntu, restoring grub is easy05:46
fr500eliUbuntu, altough sometimes05:47
fr500desrt pdg; just on a last-ditch effort, you could try changing that to "yes" and unload intel_agp and agpgart modules05:47
fr500pdg I can try...05:47
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fr500pdg so change that, unload/load, and restart xorg?05:47
eliUbuntuok, so i need a live cd05:47
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fr500desrt change it, unload05:47
fr500desrt don't reload the modules05:47
fr500socomm NoHope: Trying using synaptic.05:47
fr500wooops05:47
fr500sorry05:47
nopsfr500, direct connection there :(05:47
fr500eliUbuntu, yes05:47
eliUbuntubrb, gonna download the dvd one with the live and and installation disk05:47
epilocCan anyone give me one good reason why i should switch from kubuntu to ubuntu?05:47
fr500nops, a weird problem you got there05:47
eliUbuntugnome is faster than kde05:47
fr500epiloc, gnome :)05:47
epiloccan i make gnome as pretty?05:47
nopsfr500, yep, a hell of problem!!05:48
socommepiloc: Can you?05:48
eliUbuntuwanna see a screenshot of mine?05:48
fr500nops, what happens if you try to open say......www.google.com?05:48
jasmuzepiloc: because we love Gnome05:48
eliUbuntuits nice :)05:48
eliUbuntuon gnome05:48
epilocyes, screenshots plz!05:48
eliUbuntuwhere is that site where i can upload screenshots?05:48
eliUbuntuforgot the link05:48
dbernar1I dont have any programs open, and my speakers are playing music, from an xmms that I closed, what can I do? I killall-ed xmms already.05:48
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socommhttp://samesoft.sourceforge.net/gnome.png05:48
nopsfr500, firfox says in status "host found" then "opening page" e it stop there "looking" for the page05:48
ThewarmachineFirefox 1.0.6 is out folks05:48
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epilocit is my opinion that kde is still in development...  after doing an update, half of my devices stopped working05:49
jasmuzThewarmachine: cool05:49
dbernar1Thewarmachine: anything new?05:49
fr500nops, try to open 64.233.179.9905:49
socommepiloc: Did you like that screenshot?05:49
Thewarmachinehavent installed it yet05:49
Thewarmachineand great screenshot05:49
epilocsocomm, yes, how did you make the toolbar transparent?05:49
epilocsocomm, oh, and the lotus is very nice :)05:50
fr500epiloc, right click05:50
socommepiloc: Right click on the panel -> properties -> etc ... -> etc ...05:50
Thewarmachinemy question Is why firefox isnt in the repos yet05:50
nopsfr500, "waiting response" and nothing :(05:50
Thewarmachine?!!05:50
fr500nops, very weird05:50
epilocheh, ok im almost sold05:50
fr500but pinging google works?05:50
jasmuzThewarmachine: it hasnt been backported yet05:50
eliUbuntupretty slick socomm05:51
fr500what is a backport?05:51
epilockubuntu is nice, but kde error messages pop up just as frequent as they did on my xp machine05:51
epilocok well maybe not THAT much05:51
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Thewarmachinethat sux05:51
epilocbut i think kubuntu is falling apart, they left out some printer modules on the last update, and lookey there... cant print!05:51
Thewarmachineis backporting hard?05:51
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Thewarmachinebecause if it isnt Ill do it05:52
Thewarmachine!05:52
ubotuThewarmachine: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about05:52
socommeliUbuntu: Thanks.05:52
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dbernar1fr500: a backport is tailoring a newer version of a program to a version of an OS, that supports a lower verrsion number than you are backporting05:52
Drukeanyone here familiar with zope/plone?05:52
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nopsfr500, I tried to remove the servers ignored in the proxy configurations05:52
bimberiDruke: yes05:52
dbernar1Thewarmachine: go backport it and come back and tell us if it was hard.05:53
fr500nops, can you ping google?05:53
ThewarmachineLOL05:53
fr500my desktop :p http://200.63.228.143:6888/Downloads/Screenshot.png05:53
eliUbuntu!screenshot05:53
ubotuI haven't a clue, eliUbuntu05:53
Drukebimberi, the zope from apt-get doesn't sem to have a 'product' folder05:53
epilocdoes anyone think that KDE is more powerful than gnome?05:53
Thewarmachinenah05:53
Drukeepiloc, no05:53
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eliUbuntuanyone know where i can post my screenshot?05:53
fr500epiloc, i think it's cool, the interface is more flexible i think, but it's kinda clutered05:53
Knowledge_ok, I found out how to use my plantronics headset...but here's the thing...right now it's using OSS and the how to says that I'm going to be using alsa....which I've had problems with...any suggestions?05:54
jasmuzepiloc: it's a matter of taste05:54
nopsfr500, nothing happened and now I cant put it back *localhost and 127.0.0.0/8 . I can ping google and Im using x-chat in that machine with problems (wireeeerd)05:54
socommepiloc: It's all a matter of taste.05:54
fr500eliUbuntu, did you check mine?05:54
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eliUbuntulooks nice!05:54
eliUbuntusimilar to what i have, but different still05:54
bimberiDruke: It's usually "Products" iirc05:54
epilocfr500, you think kde is more kluttered?05:54
fr500nops, i have no idea on what is wrong, sorry05:54
fr500epiloc, than mine?05:54
Drukebimberi, iirc?05:54
Thewarmachineknowledke killall esd05:55
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gigaclonquestion I installed the JRE according to the wiki page, what do I have to do to make Firefox recognize05:55
fr500epiloc, probably not :D, but i think kde is cluttered from the beggining05:55
bimberiDruke: If I Recall Correctly05:55
nopsfr500, ill reinstall the distro and sse if the problems persist. thank you very much!! :)05:55
ricosuave17whats the name of the apt-get sources list05:55
Knowledge_Thewarmachine: that was directed towards me?05:55
epilocfr500, you said the interface is more flexible but kinda cluttered... what were you reffering to?  KDE or Gnome?05:55
fr500nops, np, sorry i haven't been able to help05:55
Drukebimberi, well i don't see that either, would it be in the default isntance folder05:55
fr500epiloc, KDE05:55
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Thewarmachinethen go to system-> prefs->multimedia systems selector05:55
nopsbye all, it was a pleasure meet you05:55
Thewarmachineyes knowledge05:55
Thewarmachineim 100 percent sure itll work05:56
fr500epiloc, you can program a lot more things for the KDE interface i think05:56
gigaclonquestion I installed the JRE according to the wiki page, what do I have to do to make Firefox recognize05:56
gigaclonoops soory05:56
epilocfr500, ok, well... any other reasons why i should switch to ubuntu?05:56
tnahi i was wondering if anyone plays hl2 or cs:s on a linux box05:56
Knowledge_Thewarmachine: it's not allowing me to select my usb device...if I try the how to, and all fails I can still have my OSS untouched correct?05:56
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socommgigaclon: You gotta link the plugin to firefoxes plugin directory.05:56
gigaclonhow05:56
bimberiDruke: It's usually /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products05:56
jasmuzepiloc: still remember that Ubuntu is the original project and Kubuntu is just a mear fork05:57
Drukebimberi, is that where i need to pyut the plone files?05:57
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epilocjasmuz, true05:57
wendyok05:57
Thewarmachineyeah I think so05:57
Knowledge_ok05:57
wendyI found through google what I need to edit to configure firefox to open thunderbird on email links05:57
Thewarmachinethe sound will only change if you do it05:57
wendyunfortunately, it's not an option I can find in about:config05:57
fr500dbernar1, about the backporting.......i read three times, maybe i'm approaching a languaje barrier :p05:57
eliUbuntusorry, cant upload mine, dont remember the link for it05:57
epilocdoes anyone think i will run into fewer problems with ubuntu?05:57
epilocsorry05:58
epiloclast question05:58
bimberiDruke: yes - although you can install plone using synaptic05:58
Thewarmachineand just reverse the instructions I gave you and everything back to normal05:58
Drukebimberi, does that work well?05:58
fr500eliUbuntu, dcc it, i will post it05:58
drew3When Opening Firefox, I get an"Alert" "....ububtu-artwork...can't be found" I click Ok and Ffox opens. I'd like to 'not' get the Alert.05:58
Thewarmachineknowledge try it and let me know05:58
gigaclonsocomm: how05:58
Thewarmachinei think theres a bug in the new firefox05:58
wendynetwork.protocol-handler.app.mailto is missing05:58
bimberiDruke: sorry I can't vouch for the ubuntu plone install - i've installed in on debian05:59
bimberis/in/it05:59
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eliUbuntuhow do you dcc it?05:59
eltinoHello05:59
Drukebimberi, well i guess i can give you a vouch in .. 58seconds ;)05:59
wendydrew3, pick a different homepage for firefox to open up on.05:59
eliUbuntudid it05:59
Thewarmachinewhy is it that when you try to install firefox 1.04 you need to install gcc4.005:59
Thewarmachine?05:59
dbernar1fr500: ya, my explanations are not that good:)05:59
bimberiDruke: :)05:59
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bimberiDruke: looking forward to it :)05:59
alvariuxhello06:00
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drew3Thewarmachine, was that for me? a bug in Ff?06:00
alvariuxanynone hve install imap-ssl?06:00
coolkevcan any one tell my why my harddrives get really hot on linux?06:00
Thewarmachinedrew im talkin about 1.0606:00
fr500eliUbuntu, didn't work, sorry06:00
benplautThewarmachine: i think the version in backports was compiled with gcc4, but that dousn't explain a dependancy...06:00
Thewarmachineyour problem is gcc06:00
fr500dbernar1, no prob06:00
eliUbuntuits ok06:00
eltinoanyone familiar with Ubuntu's LiveDVD? I wonder if there's a way to cache it all in ram at boot?06:00
eliUbuntugotta people06:00
eliUbuntusee you later!06:00
coolkevalot hotter then on windows i believe06:00
socommgigaclon:  lln -s /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/06:00
socommgigaclon: Or something like that.06:00
alvariuxim having problems with autentication06:00
benplauteltino: how much RAM do you have?06:00
Thewarmachineit just insists on installing as a dependency06:00
eltinobenplaut: 2 Gigs06:00
benplautprobably not enough...06:01
benplautdvd images are massive06:01
Drukebimberi, but i use the zope controls in /var/lib correct?06:01
alvariuxanynone hve installed imap-ssl?06:01
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coolkevis there a way to keep the drives cooler?06:01
eltinobenplaut: it's actually just a livecd06:01
Thewarmachinea good winblows prog is dvdshrink06:01
poningrucoolkev: does your fan spin too much?06:01
Thewarmachinei dont know what its linux equivalent is though06:01
coolkevnope06:01
poningruwhats the probe?06:01
coolkevi have no harddrive fan06:01
bimberiDruke: yes /var/lib/zope/instance/<instance_name>/bin06:02
poningruerr prob06:02
bimberiDruke: could be zope2.706:02
coolkevmy case is open i touch the hardrive and it's pretty hot06:02
poningruhehe06:02
benplauti'm not sure how many of Knoppix's "cheatcodes" ubuntu live still has06:02
bimberiDruke: ... instead of zope06:02
benplautit should be "ubuntu toram"06:02
Thewarmachinecoolkev...want a tip?06:02
coolkevye06:02
poningrucoolkev: using journaling system?06:02
coolkevye ext306:02
coolkevi mean06:02
Thewarmachineyou can actually wire a fan onto a harddrive with brackets06:02
coolkevResier fs and ext306:02
Drukebimberi,  it comes withn an instance called default06:02
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coolkevi have two partition06:02
eltinobenplaut: I'll try that... I hope it works ;p and with a little luck I'll have 128MB free left to actually use it :)06:03
poningruis it hotter when you use resierfs?06:03
Drukebimberi,  however theres no bin folder in it, erphaps i should try to create a new isntance06:03
Thewarmachineand temp drops up to ~20 degrees06:03
poningrucause that might make sense06:03
coolkevi don't know since i'm using both on the same drive06:03
poningrubut ext3 should not cause more drive access than ntfs06:03
Thewarmachineif you have a dual boot06:03
coolkevlike one partition of the drive is resier the other is ext306:03
Thewarmachine....06:03
Drukebimberi, its only dir's are  "access  Extensions  import  var"06:03
poningruright06:03
jasmuzDoes anyone know if you can use DRI on a SiS video integrated to the mainboard?06:03
fr500is drive cooling very important?06:03
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Thewarmachineit is06:03
benplauteltino: ubuntu doesn't use a crazy ultra compression, so you should have plenty left06:03
bimberiDruke: hm - i guess so06:03
Thewarmachinefor me at least06:04
Thewarmachinethe hotter the harddrive06:04
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Thewarmachinethe more of a chance for skrewups and catastrophes06:04
coolkevi have to shut off my comp now days casue I'm afraid it'll get to hot and not function... i run max 7 hours my comp06:04
fr500Thewarmachine, i'm setting up an storage server (sick of dvds and cds all around), so cooling the drives would be ideal06:04
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Thewarmachineyou could liquid cool06:04
coolkevthe funny thing is... the cpu is cooler then harddrive06:05
coolkevit's why I'm scared06:05
bimberiDruke: on debian it's mkzope2.7instance (as superuser)06:05
Thewarmachineor just the fan method oughta do the trick06:05
fr500Thewarmachine, that can cause screwups too06:05
poningrucoolkev: hmm06:05
poningruthat sounds iffy06:05
Thewarmachinethat can06:05
fr500Thewarmachine, you wire the fan to the hdd?06:05
poningruyou sure win doesnt cause this problem?06:05
Thewarmachinewhat can sorry?06:05
Thewarmachinehere is what I did06:05
coolkevwell my cpu is down clocked a little casue of my ram being pc 26606:05
socommI hear they've opened a new station in the anartica, you might wanna colocate your stuff there.06:05
Thewarmachinelol06:05
poningruoh06:05
Thewarmachinesocomm lol06:05
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coolkevi need pc 333 ram in order to get my cpu's full portential06:05
fr500socomm, lol06:06
poningrugo out and by it my friend06:06
Thewarmachinei attached a pair of brackets ina mounting hole I didnt use06:06
coolkevbut it's not a big difference... normal should be 1.67 ghz and mine right is 1.33 ghz06:06
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Thewarmachinethen I mounted a fan onto the brackets06:06
dbernar1c06:06
poningrucoolkev: whats your fsb on?06:06
benplautthat's a big difference, IMO06:06
coolkev13306:06
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Computer__GuruHai fsckers06:06
coolkevit's all limited by the ram06:07
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coolkevi need to buy newer ram06:07
jasmuzComputer__Guru: /dev/null to you06:07
Thewarmachinefr500 i can get a man page on it06:07
fr500Thewarmachine, what?06:07
Thewarmachineit was recently slashdotted06:07
jasmuzGood night all Ciao06:07
Thewarmachinelol06:07
Thewarmachineg2g06:07
Thewarmachinepeace06:07
Computer__Gurujasmuz, talk to the inode06:07
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coolkevcould it be because i only have 128 mb rama nd the harddrive has to keep on accessing the Swap area?06:07
fr500Thewarmachine, ok (but i have 8 200gb drives), i was thinkinga bout the power supply06:07
fr500bye06:07
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SpleenWhat is the default application that runs ADSL connections on Ubuntu?06:08
socommhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4693409.stm06:08
dupshas anyone here had a problem with firefox crashing upon loading pages, my guess is a fault due to media?06:08
dupsSpleen: ppoe06:08
Computer__Gurudups:  is it crashing loading any pages, or pages with flash?06:08
coolkevye i do have that06:08
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socommdups: Yes, you got composite extension enabled?06:08
poningrudups: what page?06:09
dupsComputer_Guru: I can't be one hundred percent sure, like moviefone.com crashes the site for example06:09
Computer__Gurulemme check it for flash06:09
dbernar1dups: pppoeconf?06:09
coolkevcall me crazy but ubuntu has a few stability error.. well it's programs.. my gnome-panel and nautilus crash alot06:09
Knowledge_ok, I can't figure out this how to, anyone know what to do about this whole USB headset thing?06:09
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socommdups: The operative words here are composite  extension and flash.06:09
coolkevand so does firefox when trying to watch streaming video06:09
dupssocom: ok, is there a thread on that or something I can read over06:09
socommdups: There's a known bug for that combination, I posted a solution on ubuntus bugtrack thingamajig.06:10
Computer__Gurudups i had that problem when i loaded a bunch of flash devel libraries n such... never could fix it, ended up reinstalling heh06:10
coolkevalso when i uses other application while listening to music beep-media-player stops playing and if i try to press the play button it hangs06:10
SpleenBecause I don't remember what I used to set up PPPoE and, while it seems to work, my ethernet NIC (eth1) that connects to the modem doesn't show as configured in Network settings (Gnome)06:10
dupsyeah it's really frustrating06:10
Computer__Gurudups:  yeah, it's got flash on it. try removing your flash installation, and reinstalling flashplugin-nonfree06:10
dupshmm ok06:10
coolkevi guess I'll shut off my comp now and maybe get harddrive coolers06:10
SpleenAnd I am having probs with NAT and IP forwarding06:10
dbernar1Spleen: pppoeconf06:11
coolkevhopefully the next release of ubuntu will be alot more stable and useful and up-to-date..06:11
socommComputer__Guru: That's not the solution here ....06:11
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Computer__Gurusocomm:  pardon me? when I had that problem, that is the exact solution i was given here.. uninstall flash and reinstall flashplugin-nonfree06:12
socommexport XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=106:12
socommAdd that line to your firefox script, at the top.06:12
Computer__Guruhrmm06:12
socommhttp://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-March/012564.html06:12
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Computer__Guruthat works?06:12
socommRead more about it there.06:12
socommComputer__Guru: Worked for me.06:12
Computer__Gurusocomm:   you should add that to the bot :D06:13
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dupssocomm: thanks06:13
Computer__Guruwould have saved me a lot of grief06:13
dupswhere is the firefox script stored on ubuntu?06:14
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franks06:14
socommMost likely /usr/bin/firefox06:14
Computer__Guruyah /usr/bin/firefox is a wrapper script06:15
Computer__Gurudont add that line above #!/bin/sh06:15
dupsyeah, I know that, just didn't know about this problem06:15
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frankdear god. I'm trying FC4 for fun and up2date is asking me after it downloads EACH AND EVERY PACKAGE if I want to continue because the packages are somehow not signed.06:16
neoxenolol06:16
Computer__Gurufrank:  repeat after me06:16
Computer__GuruRPM SUCKS06:16
frankhehe06:16
firestormHi. When I open konsole it is black background with white text but never used to be. How can I revert back to whit background with black text?06:16
socommfrank: `man up2date'06:16
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dupsexcellent, that worked socomm.  Does anyone also have url's for the backports that work06:17
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Doomgaze`drcode, from Exult?06:17
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drcodehi06:17
Computer__Gurufirestorm:  click settings ont he menu, go to schema, and select black on white06:17
Knowledge_So, anyone on my usb headset? I tried to read http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18926&highlight=mips But I'm far beyond lost06:17
firestormComputer__Guru: excellent, thanks. how can I force it to keep the setting across reboots?06:18
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LinuxNIT-ubuntuhow do you set the power management settings ?06:18
Computer__Gurufirestorm:  click settings ont he menu, then click save as default06:18
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epilocConnection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: connection refused.06:18
Drukebimberi, i restarted zope with /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products holding all the plone stuff, some of it comes up in zope manager, but not all06:18
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firestormComputer__Guru: thanks again06:19
Computer__Gurun e time06:19
epilocThis is the reason im dropping Kubuntu06:19
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Computer__Guruepiloc:  because you cant get cups configured?06:19
Computer__Guruthat sounds like a pretty silly reason to change dists06:20
epilocyes06:20
epilocwell... i feel pretty silly for doing it06:20
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Computer__Guruare you trying to connect to a cups server ont he local machine?06:20
epilocim trying to open my printer manager06:20
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epilocand it just gives me that error06:20
_mikewhich is better openoffice or koffice?06:21
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Computer__Guruokay, open a shell and type:06:21
Computer__Gurusudo /etc/init.d/cups restart06:21
Computer__Guruand watch for errors06:21
DAC1138how nice. gimp crashed every time i try and select an area. is this another hoary bug?06:21
Computer__Guru_mike:  openoffice is more 'complete'06:21
_mikei see06:21
Computer__Gurubut koffice flows a little better and imho is prettier..ymmv06:21
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bimberiDruke: sorry - i don't have access to a valid plone install atm so it's hard to help with that06:22
epilocroot@home:~ # /etc/init.d/cups restart06:22
epiloc-bash: /etc/init.d/cups: No such file or directory06:22
gigaclonfirefox now wont start06:22
gigaclonINTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager06:22
gigaclonSystem error?:: No such file or directory06:22
Computer__Gurui suppose it all depends on the level of complexity you require in your office package06:22
Computer__Guruepiloc:  holdon a sec06:22
epiloc:)06:22
tomchukcupsys06:22
Drukebimberi, no prob, checking to see what apt-get install plone site is06:22
Drukebimberi,  plone-site rather06:22
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Computer__Guruepiloc:  sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart06:23
gigaclonwhy can't firefox install JRE automatcally like in windows06:23
Computer__Guruooh this reminds me, i need to audit my init system tonight06:23
dbernar1gigaclon: dont be ridiculous.06:23
dbernar1gigaclon: what did you do to your ff?06:23
Computer__Guru!java06:23
ubotufrom memory, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.06:23
epilocroot@home:~ # sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart06:23
epiloc * Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd06:23
epiloccupsd: Child exited with status 99!06:23
gigacloni did that06:23
Computer__Gurugigaclon:  follow that, its pretty simple06:24
gigaclonstill didn't work06:24
Computer__Guruoh06:24
IIIEarsgigaclon - did you find the jre.deb on ubuntu backports?06:24
Computer__Guruepiloc:  okay, something in cupsys is broken06:24
epilocthis problem is being reported on the forums, and going unanswered06:24
Computer__Guruepiloc:  do this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys06:24
dbernar1gigaclon: so, you had firefox working normally, and installed the j2se package from backports, and now ff does not start?06:24
epilocyes, some think a module went missing in the last upgrade06:24
gigaclonI did the wiki thing06:24
Computer__Gurucould be something as simple as a config option06:25
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ricosuave17whats the link to the ubuntu guide??06:25
gigaclonthen it still didn't work06:25
Cooner750Hey Everybody! :)06:25
dbernar1hey06:25
gigaclonmade a symlink06:25
Computer__Guru!ubuntuguide06:25
IIIEarsgigaclon - that works too06:25
ubotuubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.06:25
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gigaclonthen it didn't work06:25
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Cooner750I finally managed to get the audio codecs installed; i'm done complaining now! :)06:25
Computer__Gurugigaclon:  did you build a package?06:25
dbernar1ricosuave17: google knows too...06:25
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Brunellusanybody have any experience putting ubuntu on old hardware--say PIII 300MHz?06:25
gigaclonI did the things on the wiki page06:25
IIIEarsgigaclon - yep - i tried the wiki twoce. - grab the jre.deb from ubuntu backports06:26
dbernar1gigaclon: did you restart ff after installing the package from backports?06:26
Computer__Gurugigaclon:  so you have a jre_blahblah_.bin in a dirctory,r ight?06:26
gigaclonyeah06:26
dbernar1Brunellus: ya.06:26
ubrugerBrunellus,  I just did testerday06:26
epilocroot@home:~ # sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys06:26
epiloc * Stopping Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                           [ ok ] 06:26
epiloc * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                           [ ok ] 06:26
epilocroot@home:~ # sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart06:26
epiloc * Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd06:26
epiloccupsd: Child exited with status 99!06:26
epilocsame error :(06:26
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dbernar1and you pasted it twice to the channel?06:27
gigaclonyah06:27
Computer__Guruepiloc:  I really don't think it's a reason to drop ubuntu, but im runing low on ideas06:27
Cooner750Computer_Guru: remember me?06:27
Brunellusubruger:  was it hoary?06:27
gigaclongah I click on a link and now Konq is having a spaz on the task bar06:27
dbernar1Cooner750: good for you.06:27
Computer__Guruepiloc:  have you tried starting the cupsys daemon in a console (without the start script) and watching or tailing the oputput?06:28
tomchukepiloc,  can you post your /var/log/cups/error_log to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:28
epilocwell, its a problem with a dozen different people running on 2 different threads through the ubuntu forums, and noone has any ideas06:28
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BrunellusI'm asking b/c a friend of mine is distroshopping for an old PIII/300mhz box06:28
Computer__Guru[root@psilocybin(~)] #: ps auxww | grep cupsys06:28
Computer__Gurucupsys    6433  0.0  0.6   5552  2464 ?        Ss   Jul20   0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd -F06:28
Computer__Gururoot      7720  0.0  0.1   1596   484 pts/1    S+   00:28   0:00 grep cupsys06:28
Computer__GuruDate: Thu Jul 21 Time: 00:28:2506:28
Computer__Guru[root@psilocybin(~)] #:06:28
Cooner750I only did 'sudo apt-get install ffmpeg' and 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins' and 'gst-register-0.8'. and it works :D06:28
Brunellushe has plenty of RAM (256MB) on it, but the processor is not fantastic :p06:29
epilocComputer_Guru, no, i will try.  tomchuck, sure06:29
dbernar1Brunellus: I mean, there are specific distros for lower end hardware, but any distro with a lightweight wm - not gnome- will do, and set up some lower mem usage apps.06:29
Cooner750now I just have to find somewhere to install Ubuntu; as I am only running a LiveCD :(06:29
dbernar1like, xfce4 may be a good choice.06:29
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tomchukBrunellus,  install xfce4 instead of gnome and it'll run like a champ06:29
knowledge_ok, I think I managed to screw up my sound06:29
epilocroot@home:~ # ps auxww | grep cupsys06:29
epilocroot     10489  0.0  0.1   1592   452 pts/1    S+   11:30   0:00 grep cupsys06:29
Brunellusdbernar1:  I've found xfce4 to be not really that stable for me...06:29
ubrugerBrunellus, iso was called ubuntu 5.0406:29
dbernar1knowledge_: checked the hardware side completely?06:30
SpleenHas anyone here got experience using ubuntu as a gateway with ipforwarding to an ADSL connection?06:30
Computer__Guruepiloc:  did you install a different version of cupsys than i have?06:30
Brunellussomething memory leaks.  I'm running flux06:30
dbernar1Brunellus: well, use what works.06:30
knowledge_dbernar1, yeah, supposedly the link I posted up works (the how to) but now my on board sound doesn't06:30
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Brunellusyeah.  well, I was kind of wondering if I was an isolated freak, performancewise on XFCE06:30
Brunellusor if it's a known issue....06:30
dbernar1Spleen: um...you mean, have adsl set up on ubuntu, and then forward an IP to another computer?06:30
Brunellusactually, I think the problem might be Xscreensaver.06:30
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tomchukBrunellus,  I'm running 4.2.2 on Debian Sid and haven't had a single problem06:31
amonkeywhat cd ripper for linux can read cd-text06:31
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dbernar1Brunellus: seemed to work here.06:31
Brunelluswhat's the most recent version in ubuntu universe?06:31
dbernar1just still slow a bit.06:31
epilocComputer_Guru, no idea06:31
crimsunBrunellus, of xfce4? 4.2.106:31
dbernar1knowledge_: well, what? no sound at all? one sound card?06:31
knowledge_supposedly my usb is supposed to use alsa, and by default my on board was using OSS....now it's saying "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System'" when I click test for my sound without the USB headset being plugged in06:31
Brunellusis 4.2.2 in backports?06:32
epilocComputer_Guru, this all started ever since i updated06:32
dbernar1you wanna have them both work at the same time?06:32
IIIEarsdbernar1 - did you want the j2re i got form ubuntu backports?06:32
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crimsunBrunellus, no. We'll have 4.2.2 in Breezy soon.06:32
knowledge_and the usb won't work unless I boot the computer with it plugged in06:32
Computer__Guruepiloc:  updated from what to what?06:32
anildigitalmy ubuntu resolution problem06:32
dbernar1IIIEars: not really, I am a Java developer currently, so I have it all set up...06:32
Brunellush'm.06:32
tnahi i have partitionmagic, and i want to lay down ubuntu. Should i choose the option create new partition or install another os?06:32
dbernar1I maen, a Java developer...bah06:32
epilocComputer_Guru, KDE 3.4.106:32
anildigitalit sets 640x48006:32
crimsunknowledge_, what's the issue?06:32
IIIEarsokay. - guess that says it all. - grin06:32
anildigitalafter restart06:32
anildigitalwhy06:33
Computer__Guruepiloc:  i would imagine from the kde 3.4.0 that ships with kubuntu06:33
Computer__Guruwait a minute06:33
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Computer__Guruwhat the hell does kde have to do with cupsys06:33
dbernar1tna, maybe create another partition would work.06:33
Brunelluswould it be better to run a 'server' install at first, and then apt-get the packages necessary to make a lightweight ubuntu desktop system?06:33
Computer__Guruthat makes zero sense06:33
anildigitaleven if I have configured xorg06:33
epilocComputer_Guru, I installed repositories the same day, so im not sure if that is the problem06:33
syndBrunellus: ideally, yes06:33
Tomcat_tna: You don't need to create a partition before the installer does and I don't know what the "Install OS" option does... just look that there is free space (not used by any partitions) on your disk, then install.06:33
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Computer__GuruBrunellus:  that works, better if you're somewhat limited on space and just want to install what you're gonna actually use06:34
epilocComputer_Guru, well...  I talked to someone else with the same problem, even reinstalled kubuntu... changed to ubuntu, (gnome-printer-manager) and problem solved06:34
Tomcat_tna: If you want to create the partitions before you install, make sure to have at least two - one for the root fs and one (big enough!) for temp.06:34
Cooner750xmms is not responding. anyway to kill it?06:34
crimsunpkill xmms06:34
epilocComputer_Guru, I know it doesnt make sense, but well...  yeah...  there we have it06:34
Computer__Guruepiloc:  why did you update kde to 3.4.1 from 3.4.0? I havent ran into any problems at all on 3.4.006:34
knowledge_crimsun, my on board sound was working, then I used http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-18926.html <--to try to make my Plantronics USB work...and now my on board isn't working...and in order for my USB dev to work, it has to be plugged in before I boot06:34
BrunellusComputer__Guru:  so minimally, I'd want the Xwindows core stuff, a wm, and a few apps.06:34
Cooner750crimsun: thanks!06:34
Brunellusin addition to the ubuntu base system.06:35
crimsunknowledge_, cat /proc/asound/modules06:35
epilocComputer_Guru, kopete was crashing, someone recommended 3.4.1 and it solved the problem06:35
tnaTomcat_ so when i boot up ubuntu for the first time it can make partitions for me?06:35
Cooner750I noticed today on another distro "CTRL+ESC" brought up a process window.06:35
Computer__GuruBrunellus:  if you install, say, xfce4 and you dont already have X, it will install it for you, or really should06:35
epilocComputer_Guru, if that IS the problem, how can i downgrade?06:35
alvariuxanynone hve installed imap-ssl?06:35
Computer__Guruepiloc:  solved one problem to start another06:35
Tomcat_tna: When you install, it will show you a partition manager like Partition Magic (just not as good)06:35
Brunellush'm.06:35
knowledge_0 snd_usb_audio 1 snd_intel8x006:35
tomchukComputer__Guru,  nope, it''l install the necessary xlibs but not the xserver, you need to install x-window-system-core06:35
knowledge_crimsun,06:35
epilocComputer_Guru, exactl :(06:35
Tomcat_tna: I usually tell it to use all the free space the way it likes to, and I've always been happy. :o06:36
Brunellusbut basically:  xserver, wm, apps.  right?06:36
Cooner750I think Ubuntu is now my favorite Distro06:36
Computer__Guruepiloc:  there's no way it can be the problem (that makes any kind of sense).. i can buy that maybe the kcontrol app might have changed, but kde did not change one thing about your printing subsystem.. or at least it would have no right to06:36
knowledge_crimsun, ok, sorry...the usb works when plugged in and out...but how do I get my on board to work when the usb is unplugged?06:37
Computer__Gurutomchuk:  don't you find that kind of odd from a package management system?06:37
epilocComputer_Guru, well... like you I am running out of ideas, and I need my printer asap for school... so im running out of options06:37
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Hikaru79What umask would I use to only allow read access to a file for ANYONE?06:37
Hikaru79Or, just for owner06:37
tomchukComputer__Guru,  not if I wanted to run X remotely, and didn't need a local xderver06:37
tomchuk*server06:38
epilocUbuntu and gnome might be better for me anyways :/06:38
ricosuave17can anyone help em get the newest alsa drivers?06:38
crimsunknowledge_, do you mean that the usb subsystem _only_ works if you have the device plugged in during boot?06:38
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crimsunricosuave17, sure, but do you require them absolutely?06:38
deFryskricosuave17, why do you need them ?06:38
Computer__Guruepiloc:  try (i hate to suggest this, but *I* know of no real way to do what you need to do, sooo) reinstalling ubuntu06:38
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crimsunricosuave17, often you don't - alsa-source in hoary/universe will suffice06:38
ricosuave17i need them for a sound experiment06:38
tnaTomcat_ i have a 115gig hd, and i have 75gig free space. Im wondering how much i should allocate to ubunt, with leaving some spacae for xp06:38
knowledge_crimsun, no no, I just tried it and it works correctly...but when I unplug my usb I would like it to go back to the default soundcard, and it's not doing that06:38
ricosuave17what do i do with source?06:38
epilocComputer_Guru, I am on kubuntu, but yes that was my plan (to switch to ubuntu)06:39
epilocComputer_Guru, I am going to miss pretty KDE06:39
crimsun!tell ricosuave17 about alsa-source06:39
deFryskkde = ugly06:39
Computer__Guruepiloc:  try again.. and try gaim instead of kopete :D06:39
Computer__Gurukde is pretty. and a hell of a lot more feature rich than gnome06:39
ricosuave17ok but what do i do with the soruce06:39
Tomcat_tna: Whatever you want to... I'd allocate at least 10 GB for Ubuntu though...06:39
ricosuave17how do i compile it06:39
crimsunricosuave17, instructions were sent to you.06:40
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Computer__Gurugnome = for people with older machines and less resources to spare :-D06:40
Tomcat_tna: I got 1x115, 1x20 and 1x85 for Ubuntu... :o06:40
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crimsunknowledge_, cat /proc/asound/modules06:40
epilocComputer_Guru, what are you running?06:40
tnadown the line can i steal more space from xp?06:40
ricosuave17crimsun,  there all stuck together06:40
knowledge_epiloc, believe me, I (being an ex-mandrake user) LOVED KDE....but honestly, I don't knwo what I was thinking once I started using gnome06:40
knowledge_epiloc, personal opinoin06:40
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Computer__Guruepiloc:  i'm running 3.4.0 w/gaim06:40
Tomcat_tna: Yes, you can always redistribute with Partition Magic or ntfsresize.06:40
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crimsunricosuave17, yes, copy and paste everything beginning with the first sudo into a terminal06:40
knowledge_crimsun, 0 snd_usb_audio06:41
knowledge_1 snd_intel8x006:41
Computer__Gurukde has been m y wm of choice for a really long time06:41
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crimsunknowledge_, that output demonstrates that your usb device is the default sound device06:41
anildigitalUbuntu graphics problem06:41
ricosuave17how do i copy and paste in a terminal?06:41
anildigital640x48006:41
tnaawsome, ty for your help man, im off to the install :")06:41
knowledge_Computer__Guru, are you using Kubuntu or Ubuntu06:41
knowledge_?06:41
epilocComputer_Guru, maybe I could try reinstalling kubuntu06:41
anildigitalonly06:41
anildigitalwhy06:41
crimsunricosuave17, highlight with your primary mouse button and paste with the middle06:41
dbernar11ricosuave17: ctrl+shift+c  ctrl+shift+v or right click...06:41
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anildigitalPlease anyone help me06:41
epilocComputer_Guru, on ubuntu?06:41
anildigitalpleeeeeeese help me06:42
Computer__Guruknowledge_:  I'm on Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary with the kubuntu-desktop package (and just about everything else made for kde :D)06:42
dbernar11anildigital: DENIED...06:42
Computer__Guruanildigital:  just state your problem, and we'll try06:42
anildigitalI wanna se my resolution to 800x60006:42
knowledge_crimsun, right...because it's plugged in now, but how do I get my onboard sound to work when I unplug the headset?06:42
Computer__Guruanildigital:  what is it at now?06:42
dbernar11anildigital: read the ubotu link06:42
dbernar11!resolution06:42
ubotuI guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:42
knowledge_Computer__Guru, any how-to on that?06:42
Computer__Guruknowledge_:  how-to on what?06:42
anildigitalhey,Every time I reboot My resolution get set to 640x48006:42
knowledge_Computer__Guru, KDE06:43
knowledge_on Ubuntu06:43
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crimsunknowledge_, ah that's a bit more difficult06:43
Computer__Guruknowledge_:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:43
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dbernar11anildigital: also, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will probably allow you to do that.06:43
dbernar11if you can read screen instructions, that helps.06:43
anildigitali done that, but in vain06:43
dbernar11sudo dpkg-reconfigure.06:43
knowledge_Computer__Guru, and once it restarts I'll have the option of either/or?06:43
crimsunknowledge_, you'd need to kill any apps using any sound devices, then unload snd-intel8x0, then reload snd-intel8x006:43
anildigitaldone also06:43
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knowledge_crimsun, lemme guess, all command line?06:43
crimsunknowledge_, it's probably most easily scripted, yes06:44
dbernar11cl rocks.06:44
Computer__Guruknowledge_:  then when its done, open synaptic and find KDE (the one that doesnt have universe), then install whatever you want that kubuntu-desktop didnt06:44
Computer__Guruknowledge_:  yeah, click session type on your login manager06:44
Computer__Guruand choose gnome or kde06:44
anildigitalhey, even if I set it to 800x600, login screen goes to 1024x728, after logout06:44
knowledge_Computer__Guru, that was the best one liner how-to that I've came across...loll06:44
deFryskanildigital, screensize in prefs06:45
dbernar11anildigital: how about when you login again?06:45
knowledge_crimsun, so how would I go about doing that?06:45
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Computer__Gurucrimsun:  i'm running an onboard intel 810 sound device, and i never had to do allt hat06:45
epilocok, time to format06:45
epilocthanks for the help guys06:45
Computer__Guruit just worked06:45
knowledge_Computer__Guru, I also have a usb headset I'm trying to use06:45
dbernar11Computer__Guru: did you have another sound card plugged in with USB?06:45
Computer__Guruepiloc:  cheers06:45
anildigitalafter restart it sets to 640x48006:45
Computer__Guruknowledge_:  oh06:45
epilochopefully see you soon06:45
deFryskanildigital, screensize in prefs06:45
crimsunheh06:45
Computer__Gurudbernar1:  missed that part, eh06:46
anildigitaland after logout it sets to 1024x72806:46
Computer__Gurumy bad06:46
dbernar11eh?06:46
Cooner750anybody know of a good side for desktop backgrounds? (I like how in KDE it has the 'Get New Wallpapers' button)06:46
mebaran151Kubuntu looks like it is in a bad state of affiars06:46
anildigitalwhat is prefs06:46
crimsunmebaran151, why?06:46
mebaran151looks like you cant install KDE at all!06:46
deFrysksystem -> prefs -> sreen06:46
crimsunthere are a lot of things waiting on xbase-clients06:46
naliothCooner750: www.deviantart.com  www.kde-look.org06:46
mebaran151looking at the report for uninstallable packages06:46
crimsunthat should be resolved shortly06:46
Computer__Gurumebaran151:  wtf are you talking about?06:46
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mebaran151is their a Hoary version of Kubuntu06:46
deFrysk*screen06:46
anildigitalhow to login as a root from login screen in Ubuntu06:46
crimsunmebaran151, of course. kubuntu-desktop06:46
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mebaran151oh06:47
knowledge_there's absolutely no easy fix for my little issue?06:47
Cooner750nalioth: thanks06:47
mebaran151it works that simply, nothing broken06:47
Computer__Gurumebaran151:  yes. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:47
dbernar11anildigital: why again?06:47
anildigitalhow to login as a root from login screen in Ubuntu06:47
tomchukanildigital,  short answer: don't06:47
stian_anildigital... i was just about to ask te same question06:47
stian_how to make a root password?06:47
tomchuk!root06:47
ubotuI heard root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo06:47
anildigitalplease help,how to login as a root from login screen in Ubunt06:47
nomis_anildigital, you must give root a passwd. sudo su root06:47
crimsun!tell anildigital about root06:47
deFryskanildigital, or in your console gnome-display-properties06:47
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nomis_anildigital, i meant sudo passwd root06:48
Computer__Gurustian_:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo but basically, you just "sudo passwd" and choose a password06:48
linuxpoetwhat application can I use to burn ISOs?06:48
mebaran151anildigital,06:48
mebaran151you dont technically have root06:48
mebaran151you have sudo which is more secure06:48
crimsunlinuxpoet, cdrecord, gnomebaker, k3b, cdrdao, xcdroast, ...06:48
Computer__Gurusudo is more secure than root?06:48
mebaran151it just wraps your commands as though they came from root06:48
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mebaran151Computer__Guru, yeah06:48
deFrysklinuxpoet, k3b rightklick is in nautilus gnomebaker graveman06:48
mebaran151if you set it up right06:48
linuxpoetthanks06:48
DonLI've learned to like sudo a lot06:48
Computer__Gurunah,t hat's wrong.. how can a setuid app be more secure than root?06:48
ricosuave17ok thanks dudes i now have mutiples sounds06:49
mebaran151I can grant certain users different root like priveldges06:49
Computer__Gururidiculous06:49
nomis_mebaran151, maybe he needs it. for example .. you can boot from grub with full root prevs. i dont thinks thats secure06:49
knowledge_Computer__Guru, What do you think I shouuld do about my little sound problem06:49
knowledge_?06:49
mebaran151Computer__Guru, then su is equally ridiculous06:49
tomchukComputer__Guru,  root or sudo aren't insecure, but only executing commands as root through sudo is /safer/06:49
Computer__Guruthere is absolutely NOTHING wrong with having a root account, there's also nothing any more 'insecure' than using sudo.06:49
crimsunknowledge_, I gave you a suggestion06:50
Computer__Gurutomchuk:  ill concede that06:50
knowledge_oh....woah06:50
Computer__Gurubut I have a root account, and wouldn't have it any other way06:50
Computer__Guru:)06:50
DonLoh well, night from here.06:50
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mebaran151Computer__Guru, I've sen it both ways06:50
knowledge_crimsun, kill any apps using any sound devices, then unload snd-intel8x0, then reload snd-intel8x0?06:50
mebaran151sudo is more convieninet06:50
nomis_i just meant that you should give a passwd to root. otherwise its not very secure06:50
crimsunknowledge_, yep06:50
tomchukComputer__Guru,  I have a root account too, but I use sudo more often06:50
mebaran151nomis_, if you give a password root, you have a root account right?06:51
nomis_yes. i thinks thats the best way Tomcat_06:51
knowledge_crimsun, oh...I read that, but I'm terrible at the command line...and have NO clue as to what I should do06:51
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nomis_ah06:51
zerboxxwhat is the command to find a specific file?06:51
nomis_tomchuk,06:51
dbernar11crimsun: you cant burn isos with linuxpoet ...^06:51
ricosuave17for the first time ever im happy with linux06:51
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stian_Thanks Computer__Guru06:51
crimsundbernar1, come again?06:51
nomis_mebaran151, yes06:51
Computer__Guruthe only true advantage to not having root would be if it were possible to make /etc/sudoers unreadable by the rest of the system. then you could create a couple of dummy accounts, and the hacker wouldnt be sure which acct he had to hack06:51
nomis_mebaran151, without passwd the root accout is disabled06:51
mebaran151yeah06:51
dbernar1123:48 < crimsun> linuxpoet, cdrecord, gnomebaker, k3b, cdrdao, xcdroast, ...06:51
mebaran151I thought as much06:51
dbernar11so...06:52
Computer__Gurubut you can't set /etc/sudoers a-r06:52
dbernar11:)06:52
Computer__Gurui dont believe06:52
mebaran151Computer__Guru, can't you give different users different levels of rootness?06:52
crimsundbernar1, that's the default X-Chat nick-completion delimiter :)06:52
mebaran151and control what accounts can sudo06:52
Computer__Gurumebaran151:  not different levels, but youc an define groups of apps, and set each user to a group or maybe just a selection of apps he can use06:52
mebaran151yeah06:52
mebaran151so isnt that more secure06:52
Computer__Guruwell, not really06:53
mebaran151than giving every user all the rights to rm / -rf06:53
knowledge_crimsun, that's why I was asking you if there's an easy way06:53
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crimsunknowledge_, that's the easiest way I know of06:53
bob2Computer__Guru: /etc/sudoers isn't readable by non-root users anyway06:53
Computer__Gurumebaran151:  nobody has the right or ability to rm -rf / on this box except root06:53
dbernar11crimsun: I know, it was just a joke, to be funny.06:53
knowledge_crimsun, what would the commands be?06:53
crimsundbernar11, I know :)06:53
mebaran151Computer__Guru, but not everyone can become root under a sudo setup06:53
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Computer__Gurubob2:  i stand corrected06:53
crimsunknowledge_, look at lsof/fuser and modprobe06:54
crimsunbbiab06:54
Computer__Gurumebaran151:  under a non sudo setup only people int he group wheel can become root06:54
eyequeuewhere do i report a bug in a motu package? (lack of bins)06:54
mebaran151I guess both ways work06:54
Computer__Guruand only root can assign people to groups :)06:54
bob2eyequeue: launchpad.ubuntu.com06:54
ricosuave17i have launchpad06:54
eyequeuebob2:  thanks06:54
mebaran151Computer__Guru, there goes my case for sudo ....06:54
Cooner750now sudo apt-get install is working great for me06:54
Computer__Gurumebaran151:  if you try to su - and you're not in wheel, you get a message06:54
mebaran151poor sudo :(06:54
mebaran151yep, I've done it06:55
mebaran151silly that I forgot about the wheel06:55
bob2Computer__Guru: not on gnu/linux06:55
mebaran151you have to part of the wheel group06:55
bob2RMS wrote a rant about su and the wheel group06:55
knowledge_!modprobe06:55
ubotuI haven't a clue, knowledge_06:55
mebaran151or else access is denied06:55
Computer__Gurubob2:  on every system i ever used.. it was either the group wheel or admin or admins06:55
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bob2Computer__Guru: not on any gnu-based linux system I've ever seen06:55
zerboxxCan anyone give me a hand, I'm trying to set up Cedega CVS and I seem to have hit a dead end06:55
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Computer__Guruhrmm, maybe i just took it for granted06:56
bob2Computer__Guru: "info su", scroll to the bottom06:56
bob2zerboxx: #cedega would be the place to ask06:56
mebaran151bob2, they key here is gnu isnt it?06:56
yawa|QRmorning :)06:56
zerboxxbob2: Oh, ok thanks06:56
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Computer__Guruyaknow i dont think ive ever even tried from linux on a non-wheel account06:56
bob2mebaran151: yes, as I said.  bsd-systems presumably have the old wheel behaviour06:56
ricosuave17ey does know here know about the mac os theme for gnome06:56
tnaTomcat_ i got my first problem06:56
Computer__Guruyeah freebsd uses wheel06:56
regeya_what's rms's problem with wheel06:56
bob2Computer__Guru: ubuntu and debian don't even have a wheel group06:56
bob2regeya_: info su, scroll to the bottom06:56
JDahlis the US mirror stressed, or is something wrong with my ISP? I keep getting timeouts...06:56
Computer__Guruwheel is a GOOD thing, it lets root control who can use su06:56
Computer__Gurubob2:  is there a way to get and compile the bsd style su?06:57
bob2Computer__Guru: no, it's stupid; if you have the root password, you've already won.06:57
regeya_SU(1)                     BSD General Commands Manual06:57
mebaran151bob2 so that makes sudo more secure06:57
bob2Computer__Guru: ssh to the root account, login to a terminal, etc06:57
regeya_oh whoops06:57
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regeya_:-}06:57
bob2mebaran151: no it doesn't06:57
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Computer__Gurunot if your user isnt in wheel or /etc/sudoers, and root login is denied06:57
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regeya_let me try 'info su' in a term where I'm NOT ssh'ed into an os x box :-}06:58
RQbob2, root account might be disabled on ssh ;)06:58
bob2Computer__Guru: ssh on ubuntu allows root to login by default.06:58
bob2RQ: perhaps06:58
Computer__Guruso i might as well just enable root in ssh then06:58
RQant terminal is not always accessible enough for anyone06:58
bob2RQ: sure, there's lots of things you can change06:58
mebaran151bob2, then why did Ubuntu choose to disable the root account and use sudo?06:58
Computer__Gurubob2:  yeah i saw that (and turned it off immediately)06:58
bob2mebaran151: it saves two install questions06:58
Cooner750how would I go about mounting my internal NTFS drive? (Ubuntu did not automount)06:58
Cooner750it only automounted my external FAT32 USB06:59
mebaran151bob2, that sounds like something my employer would use to back up the decision :)06:59
Computer__Guruwhich is a ridiculous reason to do such a thing ;)06:59
regeya_bob2: I get a manpage for su, and the manpage is written by someone not RMS.06:59
bob2Computer__Guru: it won't automount ide drives06:59
RQCooner750, you simply edit fstab06:59
RQ;)06:59
bob2Cooner750: ^06:59
regeya_unless RMS has changed his name to Julian and works for IBM.06:59
bob2Cooner750: www.ubuntuguide.org06:59
RQyeah, it's weird the installer doesn't ask anything about NTFS06:59
Cooner750thanks06:59
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bob2regeya_: yes, as I said, read the info page, not the man page06:59
RQi didn't like that06:59
knowledge_I'm going to try to restart06:59
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Computer__Gurui like that it gives you the option of erasing or overwriting the data on your partition when you install07:00
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WormHi i need help07:00
bob2mebaran151: it means people only need to remember one password, and makes it slightly harder for people to brute-force root on your machine07:00
RQwelll07:00
bob2mebaran151: and it encourages people to not ever login as root, which is a good thing by itself07:00
tnai booted up ubuntu and it took me to a command line wasnt sure what to run so i ran the only executable and it took me to a german screen07:00
mebaran151that is a good thing07:00
Computer__Gurubob2:  my user acct and root acct always have the same password *shrug*07:00
RQif they brute-force you, they have root automatically07:00
RQ;] 07:00
mebaran151I cant info su thouhg; it brings up the man page ...07:00
mebaran151that is odd07:00
Tomcat_Computer__Guru: Bad way :)07:00
bob2Computer__Guru: why do you even have a root account at all then?07:00
WormI just installed a game (t4c) with wine but how can i use it ?07:01
dbernar11nalioth: you there?07:01
bob2mebaran151: I don't know how you could manage to not have it on ubuntu, it's in the coreutils package07:01
RQWorm, you run its executable with wine07:01
MrGardenHoseManare .wmv files only viewable in windows?07:01
Tomcat_MrGardenHoseMan: Nope. You need w32codecs to view them.07:01
WormRQ: where can i find it ? it in windows/ ...07:01
bob2MrGardenHoseMan: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:01
bob2MrGardenHoseMan: it should be linked from the FAQ07:02
dbernar11bob2: I dont think it shows it any more.07:02
RQWorm, eh?07:02
Computer__Gurubob2:  cause you hardly ever need to be root. i neither want or need superuser access on my user acct07:02
MrGardenHoseManawesome thanks07:02
Computer__GuruTHAT is a bad idea07:02
Computer__Guruheh07:02
mebaran151bob2, I have info ... it just loads the manpage07:02
bob2dbernar11: eh?07:02
mebaran151or something REALLY similar07:02
dbernar11bob2: the restrictedformats wiki does not have a wmv entry any more.07:02
bob2Computer__Guru: "if you're going to set the same password for both, why bother having root and a normal account?"07:02
bob2mebaran151: ok, that's weird07:02
tomchukmebaran151,  info and man look similar07:02
bob2dbernar11: oh07:03
bob2Burgundavia: what's up with that?07:03
tomchukmebaran151,  it should say "Welcome to Info version..." at the bootom07:03
mebaran151tomchuk, even down to sentence structure ...07:03
paxbob2, lawyers07:03
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Computer__GuruYeah I saw that and I answered you. Because I don't need superuser permissions all the time. I su to root when I need them, then I exit back out of the root shell07:03
bob2pax: actual lawyers got involved?07:03
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bob2Computer__Guru: so how is that any better than using sudo?07:03
mebaran151it says Info: (*manpages*)su07:03
paxbob2, no but prevention is always a good thing07:04
bob2mebaran151: oh well, you can look it up on the web, too07:04
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mebaran151tomchuck info coreutils works though07:04
sn0wmanhi all07:04
Computer__Gurubecause when you su to root, you become root. i dunno dude, it's my preference.. even the page says both have pretty much equal advantages and disadvantages, so i suppose 'one less question' is a pretty good reason to disable root, after all07:04
pablo928Hi, everybody. I just installed awstats and can't figure out how to make it run. Can anyone help?07:04
desrtwhat's the condition for getting ubuntu to package a kernel module?07:05
Burgundaviabob2, say again?07:05
sn0wmancan anyone tell me what package will install mkfontdir07:05
bob2pablo928: you read the documentation?07:05
bob2desrt: is it Free?07:05
desrtbob; yes.07:05
zerboxxbob2: More than 80 people on at #cedega, not one word being spoken, and not one offer for help :(  I'll keep googling, but thanks for pointing me to where they should help me :)07:05
Computer__Gurudoesnt awstats run through cron?07:05
RQsn0wman, breezy, eh? :)07:05
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sn0wmanheh, yeah07:05
bob2Burgundavia: apparently references to w32codecs are gone from RestrictedFormats07:06
bob2zerboxx: ah07:06
RQsn0wman, none atm, i'm afraid :)07:06
Burgundaviabob2, legal reasons. We are awaiting a final verdict from canonical07:06
RQwell, maybe07:06
La_PaRCaHey kids07:06
bob2desrt: I'd think a wishlist or enhancement bug on the "linux" product in bugzilla is enough07:06
Computer__Gurusn0wman:  isnt that a script that would be included with a package?07:06
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desrthmm07:06
pablo928bob2-I went to it's homepage, didn't find much to help me.07:06
Tomcat_zerboxx: The Ubuntu forums have a good HowTo for Wine.. maybe also for Cedega?07:06
sn0wmanComputer__Guru: yeah, i would think so, but i have no idea which package that is07:06
Crismothere is someone to help me ?07:06
Tomcat_Crismo: Just state your question here.07:06
bob2mebaran151: http://mail.linux.ie/pipermail/cork/2001-April/001914.html07:07
RQsn0wman, xutils07:07
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bob2pablo928: no, /usr/share/doc/awstats/07:07
Computer__Gurusn0wman:  i've seen quite a few with mkfontdir.. you know that every version of that script is bound to be specific to the package it was distributed with07:07
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CrismoTomcat_: i just installed game with wine but i dont know on to lauch it07:07
bob2you only need mkfontdir for old apps that don't use fontconfig yet07:07
bob2(fyi)07:07
pablo928I'll give it a try. Thanks07:07
Computer__Guruyeah what he sed07:07
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zerboxxTomcat_: Checking on that now, thanks07:07
CrismoTomcat_: i dont know where is the .exe07:08
RQit is where you installed it07:08
sn0wmanRQ: thanks, i'll see if i can fix this problem with that07:08
Tomcat_Crismo: Check ~/.wine ... there should be some directory that represents your Windows C: drive.07:08
RQsn0wman, gl ;)07:08
Cooner750bbs07:08
RQsn0wman, Xorg is broken ATM ;)07:08
CrismoTomcat_:  how ?07:08
deFrysk  /j #wine07:08
Tomcat_Crismo: For example: I installed Picasa, it's in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Picasa207:09
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CrismoTomcat_:  yeah but how to go on ~/.wine07:09
Tomcat_Crismo: How...? Either with ls in the Terminal, or with Nautilus.07:09
Computer__Gurumy roommates girlfriend got her tongue stuck in a babyfood jar07:09
CrismoTomcat_: kk07:09
sn0wmanRQ: heh, yeah i can tell07:09
Computer__Guruwe'r taking pictures07:09
Tomcat_Crismo: The same way you normally check out directories.07:09
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HaroldEvening, everyone.07:09
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RQsn0wman, hopefully, that will be fixed this week.07:10
Madpilotevening all07:10
RQmorning07:10
RQ;] 07:10
Haroldnalioth: When are they going to launch that shuttle already?07:10
Tomcat_Btw, does anyone know what's up with the Firefox/Thunderbird security fixes the last days? Will they come to the Ubuntu ff/tb some time?07:10
Computer__Gurumy bad it was a baby bottle pop jar07:10
Tomcat_Or are they not applicable anyway?07:11
HaroldTomcat_: Can't we simply install the .deb Firefox?07:11
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sn0wmanRQ: so xorg isn't working for any breezy users?07:11
Computer__Gurushe came upstairs like get it off get it off and we both started looking for our cameras07:11
RQit is for some07:11
RQit's not for me :)07:11
naliothHarold: my brother says they'll try tuesday07:11
Tomcat_Harold: I'd rather have an Ubuntu standard package for that... I don't want to install a third-party Firefox...07:11
sn0wmanwow, that's aweful07:12
bob2tna: they'll be fixed in the version in ubuntu, rather than upgrading the version07:12
RQeven tho i tried so hard and got so far, in the end it didn't even matter :D07:12
Haroldnalioth: Hey, you are here!  Thanks for getting me to compile links 2 the other day.07:12
naliothHarold: best to stay with ubuntu packages07:12
sn0wmani wish i had known that before upgrading07:12
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HaroldTomcat_: Why not?07:12
RQsn0wman, it's in the forums07:12
sn0wmanoh well, time for a hoary boot disc07:12
RQ:)07:12
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Tomcat_bob2: Was that last directed to me? :o07:12
RQsn0wman, anyways, there's not much of this week left07:12
bob2yes07:12
marc__Tomcat_: what i need to type on the terminal (it crismo some wrong with my connection)07:12
Tomcat_Ah, many thanks. :)07:12
ws006#kediri07:12
RQsn0wman, plus, you can try downgrading it07:13
Tomcat_Harold: There are lots of problems associated with backported Firefox... o_O07:13
pablo928bob2: I read the doc for awstats and figured out this is probably not the app that I need. Can you recommend a good analyzer for web stats on a remote server? (commercial server)07:13
tnaTomcat_ is the ubuntu bootdisk supposed to take me to a command line?07:13
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ws006hy07:13
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dbernar11Anyhow, I just figured out how to set up internet connection sharing, maybe Ill write a wiki page.07:13
Tomcat_marc__: ls ~/.wine07:13
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Spleenplease do!07:13
Spleenhehe07:13
bob2pablo928: I don't know what sort of information you want07:13
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Crismo_Tomcat_: oops sry what i need to type on the terminal ?07:13
Tomcat_tna: No idea, sorry. :o07:13
Computer__Gurugods, i love being a pothead07:13
Tomcat_Crismo: ls ~/.wine07:14
Spleenknowing my luck my puter will blow up and I will forget everything I did07:14
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naliothHarold: have you gone and compiled the world since?07:14
dbernar11Spleen: ;)07:14
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Haroldnalioth: nalioth So I was able to compile and install links 2, following your instructions, though I wasn't able to get the graphics to install.  But that's alright, because I've today received my 256MB RAM card and I'm now using Mozilla again!07:14
Computer__Gurudoes anybody know how wellt he old dos version of majorbbs runs under either dosbox, wine, or dosemu? what about the socket support?07:14
naliothHarold: great!07:14
Crismo_Tomcat_: its says marc@ubuntu:~$ ls ~/.wine07:14
Crismo_dosdevices  drive_c  system.reg  userdef.reg  user.reg07:14
pablo928Ibob2:Just a program that will analyze the access logs from some sites that I have hosted on Yahoo servers.07:14
Haroldnalioth: Well, yes I am compiling.  I picked up a C++ book at the library and I'm learning how to program.07:15
bob2Harold: you know links2 is in ubuntu, right?07:15
naliothHarold: wow07:15
bob2pablo928: then why wouldn't you use awstats?  assuming they give you useful logs.07:15
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Haroldnalioth: And of course, learning how to program entails lots of compiling.07:15
naliothbob2: i was showing Harold how to compile, using links207:15
timlHarold: you're learning to program starting in c++? good luck to you07:15
Haroldbob2: Isn't it  www-browser?07:15
timlHarold: it's possibly the worst choice for a first language to learn07:15
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Tomcat_Crismo: Okay now you can go through the directories with "ls ~/.wine/drive_c" and so on and try to find the executable of the game you installed. In the end, start "wine ~/.wine/drive_c/<path>/<yourapp>.exe"07:15
bob2Harold: no, that's something else07:15
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Haroldtiml: What would you choose to learn with?07:16
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Tomcat_Crismo: I have to go though so if it doesn't work out, I hope somebody else here can help you.07:16
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timlHarold: I would suggest python if you are trying to teach yourself07:16
pablo928bob2:read the doc for awstats it seem that this is an app for installation on the server.07:16
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Crismo_Tomecat_: thx i'll try taht07:16
Haroldtiml: Why, persay?07:16
Computer__Gurutiml:  rubbish. people who learn c++ first have no bad habits to un-learn :D07:16
timlHarold: the learning curve is much shallower so you can spend more time learning programming concepts and less time stressing over sytax details07:16
bob2pablo928: it doesn't care where it is, as long as it has access to the log files07:16
timlComputer__Guru: people who learn c++ first are all bad habits!07:16
Computer__Gurulol07:17
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bob2C++ is a terrible first language07:17
Computer__Guruno, they're just masochistic07:17
timlor misguided07:17
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Haroldbob2: What would you learn first, bob?07:17
Computer__Gurui dunno, wasnt my first language07:17
dbernar11c++ rules! flame wars!07:17
dbernar11haha, sorry.07:17
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Computer__GuruHarold:  pascal07:17
timldbernar11: yes, but now as a first language :)07:17
HaroldComputer__Guru: You're kidding.07:17
Computer__Gurupascal is nice :D07:17
timl*not07:17
bob2Harold: python's a nice first language.  so's scheme and haskell, but they're a bit more obscure.07:18
pablo928bob2:but how do I start the program? I tried awstats on the command line and it said "cmd not found" ?07:18
Computer__Guruit's a good language to learn with07:18
Balfahi all07:18
bob2Harold: eiffel's ok07:18
dbernar11hey, Balfa .07:18
bcarrollmy first was scheme07:18
bob2pablo928: so, find out what it's really called.  dpkg -L awstats | grep bin07:18
timlyeah, haskell is good in a sense, but it's not particularly pragmatic07:18
bcarrolltoo many ()07:18
bob2bcarroll: at scool?07:18
bob2er, "school"07:18
Computer__Gurumy first was Apple Basic on an Apple ] [e07:18
Burgundaviajasoncohen, can you join #ubuntu-doc please?07:18
bcarrollyeah07:18
SpleenOh, forgot to ask before, does anyone have a script for system root emails, like the one FreeBSD send to root every morning reporting disk usage and other useless crud?07:18
timlaaanyway, to each their own07:18
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Haroldtiml: I asked in here the other day, and most everyone swayed me away from C and towards C++...07:18
timldid you mention it was your first language?07:19
SpleenMandrake also sent a daily email to root with stuff like world writable file information and stuff07:19
Haroldtiml: Yes, I believe so...07:19
mebaran151timl, try ruby07:19
timlI would learn C++ over C, but neither of them as the first language07:19
mebaran151oh07:19
pablo928bob2: came back /usr/lib/cgi-bin07:19
pablo928/usr/lib/cgi-bin/awstats.pl07:19
timlmebaran151: no thank you07:19
bob2pablo928: right07:19
Computer__Guruthen apple 64k assembler, then quickbasic for dos, then turbo pascal 2.0, then ansi c, and i suppose i know enough c++ to get by, but i don't code much07:19
Haroldtiml: What was your first computer language?07:19
timlHarold: qbasic, or some variant thereof07:19
mebaran151heheh, timl it is a nice language07:19
Computer__Guruis python fun?07:19
timlComputer__Guru: yes07:20
bob2pablo928: so, you have that there.  now just configure it to look at whatever dir youre going to copy the log files to07:20
bob2Computer__Guru: yes07:20
asprojava at school, then I moved onto the holy grail that is python :P07:20
mebaran151you all a bunch of ruby haters ....07:20
timlmebaran151: I know this, but I don't need it07:20
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bob2as someone once said, it's like "executable psuedo code"07:20
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pablo928bob2: So how do I start the progrqam? Does it have a gui?07:20
Haroldbob2: Wouldn't a scripting language like PHP be the easiest of all to learn first?07:20
timlHarold: PHP will rot your brain07:20
mebaran151Harold, python and ruby are scripting languages07:20
Computer__Guruthen maybe i could figure out what int he name of the gods is wrong with gyach-enhanced07:20
mebaran151that have the power and control of real languages07:20
mebaran151php is kind of hackish07:21
Burgundaviamebaran151, python and ruby are a bit more than scripting languages07:21
Computer__Gurusince nobody will answer me ont he phrozensmoke forums07:21
Haroldmebaran151: Python is newer than07:21
bob2pablo928: no, it doesn't havea gui.  I assume it has a config file in /etc/, though.07:21
Haroldtiml: Python is new, right?07:21
timlno, it's been around since 9107:21
bob2Harold: php's a terrible language to learn first07:21
bob2Harold: it's been around for over a decade07:21
Computer__Guruperl is a good language to learn on, too07:21
mebaran151Burgundavia, they are technically scripting languages ....07:21
Computer__Guruvery straightforward, and has a good sense of structure07:21
mebaran151Computer__Guru, I would learn it second and start with python or ruby07:21
Haroldbob2: Is Python a middle-level or a high-level language?07:21
pablo928bob2-thanks, let me look07:21
regeya_php is kinda hackis, yes.07:21
mebaran151Perl is a little hard07:21
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bob2Harold: very high07:22
Burgundaviamebaran151, you cannot write a gui app in a scripting language. JS is a scripting language07:22
regeya_hackish, yes.07:22
mebaran151Harold, I think it a high07:22
regeya_where does that put perl?07:22
ShicacaQuestion: I have a laptop (Gateway Solo 1450 if you're interested) that has ACPI fans. I found a "script" that can turn the fans on and off. It gives me the code but what do I write the code in? Is there a program? I'm so freaking green with Linux it's not even funny, but before I can install it on my laptop for real (I was using Live) I have to get the fans to turn off/on.07:22
HaroldI understand C++ is middle-level...07:22
mebaran151Burgundavia, you cant use ruby or python to write gui07:22
mebaran151what about PyGTK07:22
Burgundaviamebaran151, and gnome-art is written in ruby07:22
regeya_Wow, Burgundavia is trolling for flames, I think07:22
bcarrollpythons got pyGTK you can put a gui together with it, Burgundavia07:22
Computer__Guruperl used to be a scripting language (interpreted), but now has the ability to compile it's objects and modules :D07:22
bob2Burgundavia: er, that's a very odd defintiion of a scripting language07:22
Harold...I'm not opposed to learning middle-level, so that I'll know more about what's going on "behind the scenes".07:22
Burgundaviaregeya, not really07:22
regeya_meh.07:22
Computer__Guruit still writes pretty much the same though07:23
mebaran151Burgundavia, actually why I tried it first07:23
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Drukepython or Ruby  is high07:23
Shicaca*pokes a op*07:23
sproingiei think "scripting language" is more a matter of how you use it07:23
timlHarold: learn c++ once you've learnt python and/or ruby07:23
Computer__Guruyeah07:23
dbernar11!ops07:23
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!07:23
sproingiei've seen solid programs written in korn shell07:23
bob2dbernar11: ?07:23
Computer__Gurubash can be a scripting language07:23
dbernar11just for Shicaca07:23
Drukebash is useful too07:23
dbernar11so he knows...:)07:23
naliothdbernar11: please dont do that07:23
dbernar11why?07:24
sproingieshell has flow control constructs no scripting language has07:24
Shicacahaha07:24
mebaran151Bash is very useful07:24
bob2please don't overuse that07:24
dbernar11ok, sure07:24
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bob2Shicaca: just copy the file somewhere07:24
HaroldPython applications run on any systems, correct?07:24
Drukeles of course you use a diff shell07:24
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naliothdbernar11: because you just made every op in here atm look at their screen07:24
bob2Harold: that has python installed, yes07:24
mebaran151Harold, where the libs are07:24
mebaran151yeah07:24
DrukeHarold, aye most07:24
Computer__Guruany system with python runtimes installed07:24
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dbernar11nalioth: ah:) nice.07:24
Crismo111Tomcat_ are you alway ther ?07:24
bob2Harold: python runs on macos, most unixes, windows...07:24
mebaran151Harold, but if you get into PyGTK07:24
HaroldWhereas C++ apps run pretty much on anything?07:24
mebaran151then you might get a little hairy07:24
Computer__Gurui hear emacs has a great python interface07:25
Computer__Gurufor ide07:25
bcarrollpyGTK can get hairy07:25
DrukeHarold, if c++ works python will work07:25
mebaran151even GEdit has a decent highlighter07:25
Shicacamebaran: it's not a file though ... they give me the text lines and say, "here you go!"07:25
Crismo111can someone help me plz ?07:25
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Computer__Guruisnt there even a pyIDE package you can get?07:25
bob2Crismo111: you haven't asked a question yet07:25
bob2Computer__Guru: there's a couple07:25
Drukeemacs has a ide plug-in like thing07:25
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bob2Harold: that's kinda orthogonal07:25
Crismo111bob2: yeah but also got problem07:25
Drukepythong IDE like IDLE, or use emacs07:25
mebaran151the only ide worth anything is vim and bash :p07:25
Computer__Gurubob2:  wanna drop a couple names?07:25
Drukepython*07:25
Haroldbob2: Orthogonal?  LOL, I like that...07:25
bob2Harold: to run a random C++ program on a system, you need to install whatever libraries it needs, and compile it there07:26
Computer__Gurusomething X based would be great07:26
bob2C++'s ABI is pretty brittle07:26
Crismo111bob2: well i'm trying to open a exe of a game07:26
bob2on linux, anyway07:26
Crismo111bob2: with wine07:26
bob2Computer__Guru: idle, boa constricter07:26
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mebaran151I wish ruby had nice tools though07:26
bob2Computer__Guru: python with emacs is quite lovely, tho (and vim, of course)07:26
mebaran151only thing I miss07:26
sproingiemebaran151: for web apps it has nice tools07:26
mebaran151it works well in emacs07:26
HaroldApple is dropping Java support.07:26
mebaran151sproingie, yep VERY nice07:26
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asproHarold?07:26
Computer__Guruemacs :-&07:27
dbernar11suer...07:27
Haroldaspro: Yes?07:27
asprothey tout it everywhere07:27
mebaran151but I like writing in the language as it writes like sentences07:27
asproI doubt they would drop it07:27
bob2Crismo111: so look wherever you installed it07:27
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mebaran151they named the funtions in the standard library pretty well07:27
dbernar11Java 1.5 - Tiger, Mac OS X 1.4 - Tiger, coincidence? haha07:27
sproingielooking at catalyst on the perl side,  doesn't look as mature yet07:27
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Crismo222bob2: marc@ubuntu:~$ ls ~/.wine/drive_c07:27
mebaran151C# looks like a promising language too07:27
Crismo222astuces_jg  My Documents  Program Files  windows07:27
Crismo222marc@ubuntu:~$ ls ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files07:27
mebaran151I think I might take itup07:27
Haroldaspro: Well, maybe I've got the story wrong...apparently, they're sticking with Objective-C07:27
Crismo222ls: /home/marc/.wine/drive_c/Program: Aucun fichier ou rpertoire de ce typels: Files: Aucun fichier ou rpertoire de ce type07:27
bob2Crismo222: then look in there07:27
Computer__Gurubob2:  i take it there's no package for boa-constrictor07:27
bob2Crismo222: and stop pasting things07:27
sproingieComputer__Guru: boa-constructor07:28
hacked`guys, how do i tell my wifi card to use a wep key07:28
Crismo222bob2: how ?07:28
mebaran151is objective C easier than C++07:28
bob2Computer__Guru: there is...07:28
mebaran151which would be a better compiled language to start with07:28
sproingiemebaran151: most people would say yes07:28
mebaran151?07:28
Crismo222bob2: check what i past...07:28
asproHarold, the cocoa (osx gui) stuff is java and obj-c07:28
bob2hacked`: how did you configure it to begin with?07:28
Computer__Gurui see i misread07:28
hacked`configure what? i didnt07:28
bob2Crismo222: yes, you didn't look in the right directory07:28
mebaran151sproingie, even if you have a SmallTalk/ Ruby background07:28
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hacked`i just know how to do iwconfig eth0 essid linksys07:28
Haroldaspro: I have an article here...maybe you can interpret its meaning...07:28
sproingiemebaran151: objective c is good if you're on a mac ... you'll find virtually no system support on linux for it07:28
bob2Crismo222: ls ~/.wine/drive_c/"Program Files"07:28
dbernar11Crismo222: you need a \ before specal characters in a terminal, like the space07:29
sproingiemebaran151: unless you want to go with gnustep, which frankly ain't that good07:29
bob2hacked`: then use iwconfig to set the wep key. sudo iwconfig eth1 key 111107:29
mebaran151I tired GnuStep07:29
dbernar11or that07:29
Crismo222bob2: oh thx you07:29
mebaran151and regretted it07:29
asproHarold, yes?07:29
dbernar11Crismo222: also, use tab completion07:29
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Haroldaspro: One sec...07:29
dbernar11so, ls `/.wine/drive_c/Progr<tab>07:29
nomasteryodaoh, Nice... just got my ton of Ubuntu disc sets... x86, 64, & PPC... sweet07:29
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nomasteryodathanks Ubuntu07:29
nomis_i got them yesterday :)07:30
sproingiemebaran151: objective c is certainly simpler than c++.  modern c++ has some powerful stuff it can do with templates.  i just find the syntax heinously verbose07:30
jorgpnomasteryoda: where are you located?07:30
mebaran151I found that too07:30
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mebaran151I am look for a little less wordy language07:30
nomasteryodaGeorgia, US07:30
thaUbuntunomasteryoda: you are welcome07:30
mebaran151that is why C# is looking nice at the moment07:30
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sproingiemebaran151: for what task?07:30
jorgpnomasteryoda: ok, should look for mine then.. Oklahoma07:30
Haroldaspro: One sec again...07:30
Crismo222THX you so much guys07:30
nomasteryodaI have ones from Warty release too... these are nicer07:30
mebaran151sproingie, havent decided07:30
asproHarold, np :)07:30
mebaran151medium sized application development07:31
nomasteryoda18 PC, 8 PPC and 5 64s07:31
jorgpnomasteryoda: when did you order, how long did it take?07:31
nomasteryodafor the LUG07:31
nomasteryodaabout month ago07:31
jorgpI ordered mine 6/1107:31
sproingiemebaran151: i hear ya.  looking for something to tinker with.  could always try haskell, if you don't mind the risk of your brain exploding07:31
nomasteryodalooks like they actually shipped from Africa07:31
mebaran151sproingie, have you tried SmallTalk07:31
mebaran151it has a pretty good web api too now, SeaSide07:31
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sproingiemebaran151: i'm not a big fan of smalltalk.  slate looks interesting tho07:32
Haroldaspro: Found it!07:32
Haroldaspro: Here's the link:07:32
Haroldas07:32
mebaran151Slate, hmmmm07:32
jorgpdid you get an emai about it or did they just show up?07:32
mebaran151sprongie, you speaking about ForTran07:32
mebaran151my father knows Fortran07:32
Haroldaspro: Do you use irssi?07:32
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asproHarold, the suspense is killing me07:33
Haroldaspro: LOL07:33
sproingiemebaran151: fortran?  ugh, no07:33
asproHarold, nah, xchat07:33
Haroldaspro: LOL, I'm really laughing07:33
mebaran151that is what I got07:33
mebaran151Slatec07:33
Haroldaspro: I'm trying to paste!07:33
mebaran151numerical computation library07:33
HaroldAnyone know how to paste in irssi?07:33
Crismo222Now how can i launch the .exe ?07:33
Harold(Everyone's going to say, "Don't tell him!")07:33
mebaran151sproingie, have they pkged it yet07:33
sproingiemebaran151: i still havent found many less-verbose languages that weren't either so hard they were mind-blowing, or too trivial to bother with07:34
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dbernar1harold, no.07:34
mebaran151well python and perl are the two big ones07:34
dbernar1right click paste.07:34
sproingiemebaran151: perl pays my salary, pretty much.  but it's just not that interesting to me07:34
Harolddbernar1: I can't right-click using my PowerBook, sorry.07:34
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Haroldaspro: Here: Run a Google search for "apple dropping java"07:35
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Haroldaspro: An article will come right up.07:35
mebaran151sproingie, ruby too ....07:35
asproHarold, haha07:35
dbernar1Harold: f12.07:35
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asproHarold, that took ages :P07:35
mebaran151I love Ruby, most beautiful looking language in the world07:35
Harolddbernar1: Thank you07:35
Crismo333Bob2: now how can i launch the .exe?07:35
Haroldaspro: Wait a sec...07:35
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sproingiemebaran151: perl6 is getting almost usable now.  ain't pretty by any means, but it's got features up the wazoo07:36
dbernar1Harold: ya, I use a Mac too.07:36
asproHarold, the slashdot piece?07:36
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mebaran151sproingie, I like OOP07:37
Haroldaspro: That's probably where I first picked it up, on Slashdot.  But it's an Apple press release.07:37
mebaran151and perl just doesnt do that07:37
Harolddber07:37
sproingiemebaran151: perligata supports OOP too.07:38
dabardabar07:38
sproingiedatibus nullum horum benedictum. # bless \%data, $_[0] ;07:38
asproHarold, Ahh, I didnt know that, they arent dropping it entirely, just not improving it... but that is just about the same thing :(07:38
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Computer__Guru5 days, no cigarettes07:38
mebaran151what's perligata?07:38
Computer__Guruwo0t07:38
Haroldaspro: I guess it will be the same thing after a few years.07:38
sproingiemebaran151: perl in latin07:38
dabarHarold: so did you paste the link?07:38
sproingiehttp://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~damian/papers/HTML/Perligata.html07:38
Haroldaspro: Are you a Java programmer?07:38
Harolddabar: F12 didn't seem to work.07:38
Computer__Guruand i live with smokers07:39
dabarfn+f12?07:39
dabarit right clicks with f12.07:39
asproHarold, yeah, though ive been using python mainly now anyway07:39
bcarrollcomp_guru: congrats07:39
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dabarComputer__Guru: ya, good stuff.07:39
Harolddabar: No, that seems to switch from xterm to my other applicaton (currently Mozilla).07:40
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mebaran151sproingie, how about Tcl/Tk07:40
Haroldaspro: So which programming language would you recommend a beginner to learn first?07:40
Harolddabar: Strange anomalies.07:40
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HrdwrBoBHarold: depends what you want to do07:40
dabarharold, weird, I remember f12 used to right click when I had ubuntu on the iBook...07:40
Harolddabar: Are you using irssi?07:40
dabaryes, I am.07:41
Computer__Gurudabar:  im taking zyban as part of a program.. still damned hard, but the drug __really__ helps07:41
sproingiemebaran151: well, speaking of dead languages ... tcl is one of 'em.  i wouldn't bother with it07:41
Harolddabar: Hmmm...well, I'm using an old PowerBook G3.  Maybe there's something different.07:41
mebaran151sproingie, haha07:41
sproingiemebaran151: i used to love tcl, but it's really a poor performer and a crippled language07:41
SPCCrow /disconnect07:41
asproHarold, I guess python is a good one, easy to get your head around and there are quite alot of web resources07:42
HrdwrBoByeah lots of good documentation07:42
HrdwrBoBnice object orient language07:42
sproingiepython's ok.  won't teach you much you don't already know07:42
sproingieocaml's not bad for learning new concepts07:42
Haroldaspro: I've begun studying up on C++.  Would you recommend switching to Python learning first?07:43
sproingiesyntax for ocaml can be noisier than perl tho07:43
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asproHarold, I honestly cant say, Ive never really learnt c/c++07:43
mebaran151Harold, or try ruby ....07:43
sproingieHarold: i'd switch to lisp.  runs circles around python07:43
Crismo111someone can help me ?07:43
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Crismo111if ya got msn it'll be easier07:44
sproingieHarold: and strangely enough, the compiler for cmucl is called python07:44
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Crismo111...07:44
HaroldCrismo111: What did you need help with?07:44
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Crismo111Harold: launch exe07:45
Haroldsproingie: The language is called cmucl?07:45
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HaroldDoes anyone know how to launch exe?  Wouldn't that require a Windows emulator?07:45
mebaran151sproingie, everyone loves a boa constrictor07:45
mebaran151Harold, yeah07:45
mebaran151not worth the trouble07:45
Crismo111Harold: yeah I installed game with wine07:45
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mebaran151sproingie, did you study latin in school07:46
HaroldCrismo111: It may work, and it may not.  Does wine's website say that game works under the environment?07:46
willie_how do i get my mouse to work, its a ps/207:46
willie_on a fresh install07:46
luminerdHello all, I need 20 identical computers with Linux compatibility, budget is $150-$250 per computer.  Where is the best place to look?07:46
Haroldmebaran151: I rember studying a tiny bit of Latin when I was in 4th grade or so.07:46
mebaran151Harold, yeah, because sproigie linked me to perl latin style07:47
mebaran151http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~damian/papers/HTML/Perligata.html07:47
dabarHarold: rember learning english?;)07:47
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Crismo123I'm alway bugging on IRC07:47
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Harolddabar: I'm still studying English, every day of my life...07:48
willie_can someone help me get my mouse to work?07:48
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RQit should woerk by default07:48
willie_it's not07:48
HaroldCrismo111: No problem - you've got a question, so ask away anytime.07:48
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RQwillie_, how come?07:48
stian_!dpkg eterm07:49
ubotuNo idea, stian_07:49
willie_it is a regular ps/2 mouse with a ball07:49
Haroldmebaran151: I'm not certain how to copy and paste/open a link using irssi yet.07:49
mebaran151haha07:49
Crismo122RQ: it do not launch (the exe of my game)07:49
mebaran151one way to do it07:49
RQwillie_, then it should really work by default07:49
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willie_i also have a usb mouse that i could try, it's optical though07:49
RQtry it07:49
RQwillie_, i suppose you're taking about the GUI? :)07:50
willie_yes07:50
sproingieHarold: cmucl == CMU Common Lisp07:50
RQhm, weird then.07:50
Haroldsproingie: Oh, okay07:50
dabarstian_: ? !dpkg?07:50
willie_how do i get my computer to reboot if i don't have a mouse?07:50
sproingieok, time for bed07:50
mebaran151sproingie, I didnt think you compiled Lisp07:50
Harold?07:50
HaroldOops07:50
RQwillie_, you can press reset :)07:50
sproingiemebaran151: yes, it's compiled these days.  it's faster than hell too07:51
dabarHarold: well, f12 works even on g3 ibooks...07:51
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dabarin ubuntu? like, gnome?07:51
willie_i have no reset button07:51
mebaran151sproingie, but all those parenthese07:51
Harolddabar: I'm in xcfe4...07:51
mebaran151it is so hard to look at07:51
sproingiemebaran151: feh. you get used to it, really.07:51
stian_dabar: im used to debian07:51
stian_:)07:51
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dabarstian_: I thought so...07:51
RQwillie_, then just hold the power button for a few seconds07:51
sproingiemebaran151: it's not like C doesn't end up with a lot of parens when you nest functions07:51
mebaran151sproingie, I took it up for a day and couldnt get past the parentheses07:51
Crismo121RQ: it wrote that: /home/marc/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/La Quatrime Prophtie/t4c.exe in green ....07:51
dabarHarold: maybe that is why, but I dont think it should matter...07:52
mebaran151sprongie but braces07:52
dabardo you have a mouse connected? I guess not...07:52
sproingiemebaran151: most lisp ends up with one big "closing line" of lots of parens07:52
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sproingiemebaran151: that's when it's handy to have an editor that matches 'em07:52
Harolddabar: No, no mouse...07:52
sproingiemebaran151: my main problem with common lisp is how verbose the function names are, not the parens07:52
RQCrismo121?07:53
sproingiemebaran151: like WITH-OPEN-FILE07:53
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dabarits interesting to look at firewall logs, I mean, what do all those requests want?07:53
Crismo121RQ when i do ~/.wine ....07:53
RQCrismo, why that lot of clones?07:53
Harolddabar: It's okay, I'll figure it out eventuall.  I think more of a concern is how to scroll upwards in irssi, or to find some other way of reading past messages.07:53
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Crismo121RQ i'm always bugging i dont know07:53
dabarpage up scrollls07:53
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Harolddabar: pg up display only my messages.07:54
sproingiethe stuff that does would be equally confusing in python07:54
RQok...07:54
RQCrismo i don't get your problem07:54
Crismo121RQ: to Launch my exe ?07:54
=== sproingie sighs, gotta get sleep. nite all
dabarHarold: are you sure you are not drunk? or something like that, cause it all works here:)07:54
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Harolddabar: fn-pg up did the trick.07:54
dabarah07:54
orbordeHow do I unpack and install a .deb archive? And will Synaptic automatically find it?07:54
dabargood.07:54
Harolddabar: LOL, not drunk.07:54
RQCrismo, try `wine /path/to/exe/`?07:54
stian__orborde: dpkg -i packagename07:55
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RQ(oops, no trailing slash)07:55
dabaralt+number changes windows...07:55
La_PaRCaorborde, if its in one of the repositories, you just have to tell synaptic to install it, otherwise dpkg -i file.deb07:55
RQorborde, dpkg -i filename07:55
dabar /win c closes a conversation with someone.07:55
Crismo121RQ: i dont understant what u mean07:56
dabar /part <leaving message>07:56
RQCrismo, launch terminal07:56
dabarto leave a channel.07:56
RQthen enter the command in it07:56
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RQ"wine /home/marc/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/La Quatrime Prophtie/t4c.exe"07:56
RQ:)07:56
RQHarold, mac?;] 07:57
HaroldRQ: Yes, a PowerBook G3 233MHz07:57
RQaha :)07:57
HaroldRQ: Wallstreet II07:57
HaroldRQ: You?07:57
RQibook07:57
Harolddabar: These are helpful commands; thank you!07:57
dabarwelcome07:57
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dabar!macusers07:57
uboturumour has it, macusers is nalioth, dabar, and add yourself.07:57
RQHarold, the white one :)07:58
RQ900Mhz or so :)07:58
luminerdOkay, here's what I found so far, but I REALLY don't want to turn up a Dell since I've badmouthed it so long, there'd be no living with these people!  It's a Dell with a 2.4ghz Celeron, 256MB ram, 80gb hd, 17" monitor....only $299...thing is it comes with windows.  I need to get 20 identical models for $250 each that are as good as or better than this system07:58
orbordeOkay. I dpkg'd it. Is there something else I need to do?07:58
shicacaHOly crap it worked!07:59
RQorborde, no07:59
Computer__Guruluminerd:  sounds like a deal07:59
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Harolddabar: What a difference RAM makes; yesterday I had 65MB and couldn't (or wouldn't want to, due to it's slowness) run Mozilla, so I was using links.  Now, with 256MB more installed, I'm flying through with Mozilla.  Still using irssi, though, rather than xchat, because I'm getting used to it I guess.07:59
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Crismo222RQ: the Terminal is launched07:59
paxluminerd: that 17" is lcd or am I wishing?07:59
Computer__Guruluminerd:  i would definately get that. even with windows.. linux is just a dd away07:59
dabarHarold: I like irssi cause its cl. I like cl programs better.07:59
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luckyabaanyone familiar with proxies08:00
luckyaba?08:00
Harolddabar: Why, dabar?08:00
dabarjust cause I can be logged out...08:00
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Computer__Gurudabar:  plenty of ways to do that with X based stuff too08:00
Harolddabar: I began using irssi to save RAM.08:00
Computer__Gurualthough something along the lines of xscreen would farkin rule08:00
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RQCrismo, paste that to terminal:08:01
RQwine /home/marc/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/La Quatrime Prophtie/t4c.exe08:01
Computer__Gurua screen for x apps08:01
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Computer__Guruthat would be real nice08:01
crismo213RQ: can you give me your msn to we talk to you help me with my probleme ?08:01
RQCrismo, i don't know much about wine08:02
RQ;)08:02
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RQthe only game i ran under it was "Pharaoh+Cleopatra"08:02
HaroldWell, I'm calling it a night.  Want to return to my study of programming if I have time, too...08:02
luminerdpax, CRT08:02
Harold'night, everyone!08:02
luminerdComputer__Guru, I can get a better deal.  Dell SUCKS and so does celeron08:02
orbordeOkay, how do I get the program from the package into my 'Applications' menu in Gnome?08:02
dabarsee ya08:02
Harolddabar: Later, d08:02
dabarorborde: what program?08:03
Harolddabar: Thanks for your help08:03
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dabaryeah, sure.08:03
naliothnight, harold08:03
Computer__Guruyou can get a better deal?08:03
Haroldnalioth: night, nalioth08:03
RQorborde, if the package has gnome menu entry, you'll see iit08:03
Computer__Guru250 for a full 2.4ghz system08:03
Haroldnalioth: Real quick - seen any astronauts in town?08:03
RQnite Harold08:03
HaroldRQ: nite RQ08:03
mebaran151Computer__Guru, it IS a celeron P408:04
mebaran151not exactly the ritz08:04
orbordedabar: Opera08:04
mebaran151though my monitor alone cost more than that back in the day08:04
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Computer__Guruyeah08:04
dabarorborde, ok...give me a sec?08:04
dabarcan you opera in a terminal, and that opens it?08:04
RQyou think he can't?08:04
Computer__Guruyeah this 19 was 3 bills08:05
tazQuestion... I have installed NeroLINUX.. It tells me to enable DMA acceleration for my DVD-burner (/dec/hdc) ... How do i do this?08:05
RQorborde, you can always apt-get install menu08:05
Computer__Gurutaz: pico /etc/hdparm.conf08:05
Computer__Gurutaz: find or add a section for your cdrom, and enable dma08:05
thkClrorborde, you can try just restarting gnome-panel08:06
IcemanV9taz:  sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc08:06
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Computer__Gurutaz: if you dont wanna reboot right now, type: hdparm -d 1 /dev/cdrom08:06
RQ/dev/hdc, that is08:06
luckyabaanyone know how to get a proxy running with irc?08:07
Computer__Gurunot always /dev/hdc, and /dev/cdrom is a valid device if there's one anywhere on the system :>08:07
luckyabado i need to find a cetain type?08:07
orbordedabar: yes, I can get it from terminal08:07
Computer__Gurumy cdrom in my last system was /dev/hdb08:07
orbordeRQ: Specify?08:07
orbordethkClr: How do I do that?08:07
RQorborde, `apt-get install menu`08:08
naliothi downloaded a hoary-ppc-install cd, and the md5 didnt match what was on the website08:08
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Computer__Gurunalioth:  guess it didnt d/l right *shrug*08:08
tazComputer__Guru, ok.. so i dont need to change in the /etc/hdparm.conf then?08:08
RQComputer__Guru, taz said it's /dev/hdc ;)08:08
naliothi rm'd it and d/l from another site, and the md5 again didnt match, (but it matched the one i'd originally d/l)08:08
Madpilotorborde: Opera won't appear in Ubuntu's menus by default. search on "Opera" in the ubuntu forums, there's a nice tutorial there for adding it08:08
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Computer__Gurutaz:  if you want the change to be permenant, yes08:08
naliothhave they changed something on the images and not updated the md5s?08:08
tazah ok08:09
IcemanV9taz:  yeah, it's for future when you bootup, it'll do that automagically08:09
orbordeMadpilot: Not to be too dumb, but what is the Ubuntu forums address?08:09
Computer__GuruRQ:  oh, missed that part08:09
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Madpilotorborde: or just add a launcher to one of your taskbars or desktop, that's even easier08:09
shicacaDoes anybody know how to setup a cronjob?08:09
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Madpilotorborde: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/  - just a sec, and I'll look for that tutorial again08:09
dabarRQ: whats the menu?08:10
RQa package08:10
RQwhich installs debian menu08:10
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RQand debian menu has EVERYTHING08:10
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RQunlike gnome or KDE menus08:10
tazComputer__Guru, this is the only entry i did.. i guess it takes the rest as default? /dev/hdc {08:10
taz        dma = on08:10
taz}08:10
naliothComputer__Guru: any idears?08:10
RQbut on the other hand it looks quite ugly as it only has five root entries08:10
Madpilotorborde: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40467&highlight=Opera08:10
Computer__Gurutaz:  yeah08:11
tazok.. thx a lot guys :)08:11
shicacaCan someone help me set up a cronjob?08:11
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Computer__Gurunalioth:  yeah, re-download it... sorry m8, t's the best i can suggest08:11
Micksaokay, my xkb config is screwed, again08:11
dabarorborde: then I suggest you install smeg from backports.08:11
MicksaI'm guessing it's because xkbcomp isn't where it should be or something08:11
naliothshicaca: you may (for now) open a terminal and "man crontab"08:11
loderunnerstupid question, but how do I verify my current resolution?08:12
naliothComputer__Guru: did you read all i sent?08:12
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Computer__Gurui did not08:12
Micksaanyway, is there a way to set up the xkb config in a running X? "xkbcomp foo" or something?08:12
Computer__Guruall i saw was bad checksum08:12
naliothComputer__Guru: i rm'd it and d/l from another site, and the md5 again didnt match, (but it matched the one i'd originally d/l)08:12
dabarorborde: think you got it now?08:13
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Computer__Gurunalioth:  take your chances? *shrug*08:14
Computer__Guruwith the first one that matches the second checksum08:14
Computer__Guruhaha, read that, its funny08:14
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naliothComputer__Guru: my question was: does anyone know if they changed a bit or two in the image(s) but not the md5checksums08:14
Computer__Gurunalioth:  i dunno08:15
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Computer__Gurui'd just take my chances08:15
naliothComputer__Guru: i'd rather not, on my new imac08:15
RQnalioth, check the dates08:15
Marble2Why do I keep getting this error when I open anything with MPlayer? "Failed to open /home/greg/<"08:15
Computer__Gurui doubt someone on your network is feeding you bogus packets in your ubuntu install08:15
naliothComputer__Guru: would rather use a ppc warty installer08:16
Computer__Gurutrue08:16
Computer__Guruso do that and then just dist-upgrade to hoary08:16
Computer__Guruproblem solved08:16
orbordedabar: I have it.08:16
dabargood.08:16
Computer__Guruand solved in a niftier manner :>08:16
orbordeThanks for the help.08:16
dabaryup08:17
naliothComputer__Guru: heh08:17
dabarwhat did you do? out of curiosity...08:17
naliothComputer__Guru: might as well get a woody netinst image and save some time08:17
IcemanV9Marble2:  permission problem?08:17
Marble2well08:17
Marble2< doesn't exist08:18
Marble2but I don't know why it's trying to open it08:18
Computer__Gurunalioth:  ubuntu > debian08:18
Computer__Guruimho08:18
Computer__Guruymmv08:18
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naliothComputer__Guru: you dont know the install from woody floppy image(s) trick?08:18
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Computer__Guruaroo?08:19
Computer__Gurubut u said netinst image08:19
IcemanV9Marble2:  ahh. it doesn't exist. ha. check the preference in mplayer to make sure it is not trying to open something08:19
Computer__Guruand the bootable woody netinst image doesnt work on my ppc :(08:19
naliothComputer__Guru: you install a minimal woody (some people dont have cdrom drives) floppy inst08:19
Computer__Gurui have an old g3 333, and i cant get that piece of shit cdrom to read anything08:19
Marble2IcemanV9: I looked around the mplayer prefs and say nothing related to trying to open that...08:20
naliothComputer__Guru: once you get minimal + apt-get, you drop in hoary sources.list and update08:20
Computer__Guruyeah that's cool08:20
crimsunor you can netboot08:20
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Computer__Gurucouldnt you do that from any debian cd?08:20
naliothcrimsun: you know anything about the images and their md5s?08:20
naliothComputer__Guru: some peeps dont have a cdrom drive08:20
Marble2IcemanV9: It's weird though, if I start mplayer then open the file, it doesn't happen, but if I double click the file and it starts playing in MPlayer, it does happen.08:21
Computer__Guruoh yeah08:21
crimsunNakkel, as in mismatched? Not really.08:21
crimsunerr08:21
crimsunNakkel, sorry08:21
crimsun^^ nalioth08:21
Computer__Guruwho the hell doent have a cdrom?08:21
RQMarble2, the filename is passed badly, that's all08:21
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RQhahaha :))))08:21
IcemanV9Marble2:  hm. i don't know why it does that. mine doesn't work except the plugin part.08:21
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naliothcrimsun: i d/l 2 ppc-hoary-install from 2 different sites, and they both matched md5s, but not with what was on the downloads page08:22
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RQnalioth, gimme a link to the d/l page08:22
dabarnalioth: use torrents, I dont think they get mismatched...08:22
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naliothcrimsun: and i was wondering if they've been bit-juggling08:22
eyequeuecrimsun:  hi.  just a sound comment.  in breezy, there was an alsa upgrade again.  whatever was changed turned on my "external amplifier" again, which kills my sound (not a problem, i run alsamixer as root and turn it off, and all works again)08:22
naliothRQ: www.ubuntu.com/downloads08:22
naliothdabar: my torrent client infinitely d/l the same piece08:23
crimsuneyequeue, it's default to be on08:23
RQnalioth, 404 :))08:23
Computer__Gurui say just go for it, nalioth, you're not gonna do any harm to your hardware, you might get stuck reinstalling osx, though, if it harfs08:23
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naliothRQ: singular, then08:23
eyequeuecrimsun:  the thing is, i don't know enough about what it does on upgrade to file an effective bug report, but i figured it may mean something to you08:23
crimsunnalioth, I don't know if anything's changed.08:23
dabareyequeue: ya, he told you its default to be on, not a bug.08:24
SpecialBuddyis there an apache chatroom08:24
Computer__Guruespecially considering they actually do match..... sorta08:24
dabarI think...08:24
dabar /join #apache08:24
crimsuneyequeue, which driver? (and it may be a bug, but it's not worth filing at this point since alsa* updates are coming steadily from Debian)08:24
RQnalioth, i don't see md5's ther ;] 08:24
RQthere08:24
eyequeuecrimsun:  ah, the default consistently breaks sound here ("it just doesn't work"08:24
SpecialBuddydabar, thank you08:24
dabarwelcome08:24
naliothRQ: ya have to click a country08:24
RQComputer__Guru, have you tried a different mirror?08:25
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Computer__GuruRQ:  i havent even tried that one. i was talking to nalioth08:25
Computer__Guru:>08:25
RQah08:25
RQi was talking to him too08:25
RQ:)))08:25
RQnalioth,  have you tried a different mirror?08:25
eyequeuecrimsun:  TM lol) which seems suboptimal for newbies ... is there a way of sensing this before defaulting-to-broken?08:25
dabaryes. use stable:)08:26
crimsuneyequeue, which driver is it?08:26
naliothRQ: in my chat here, i've mentioned twice that i've d/l from 2 differnt mirrors, to get the same md5 on what i got08:26
Computer__GuruRQ:  what he's saying is he downloaded the image and checksum from a site and they didnt match, so he tried a mirror and got both files there, and they didnt match either, but the second image he downloaded matched the first md5 he downloaded08:26
RQnalioth, ah, sorry :)08:26
naliothRQ: but doesnt match whats on the d/l page(s)08:26
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Cooner750i'm baaaaaaaaaack08:26
RQlet's see08:27
eyequeuecrimsun:  dmesg | grep ICM turned up null ... how should i look for the driver name here?08:27
amonkeyis there anything in the repos that will let me cut an mp3?08:27
RQi can d/l a file and check the sum08:27
Computer__GuruCooner750:  you're in cinci, eh... im in columbus08:27
crimsuneyequeue, cat /proc/asound/modules08:27
naliothamonkey: "cut"?08:27
dabarin half08:27
Cooner750Computer_Guru: Yep, good 'ol cinci. lol08:27
naliothamonkey: audigy08:27
eyequeuecrimsun:  thanks. 0 snd_intel8x008:28
eyequeue1 snd_intel8x0m08:28
Computer__GuruCooner750:  been hot, lately08:28
Cooner750yes. very hot08:28
crimsuneyequeue, strange, that should be _on_ for your chipset08:28
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eyequeuecrimsun:  a laptop, if that's an issue08:28
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Cooner750and lots of rain....08:28
amonkeynalioth, i have an mp3 that has a bonus track on it so the mp3 is 30 minutes long with 10 minutes of audio, going on to a small mp3 player08:28
eyequeuecrimsun:  an "external" amplifier?08:28
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Computer__Gurubeen some rain here08:28
Computer__Gurubut you have more humidity cause of the river08:28
naliothamonkey: use audigy08:28
Computer__Guruso you prolly get a lot more rain08:29
dabarcrimsun /i how do you do that?08:29
crimsuneyequeue, just standard confusing alsa terminology for a mixer element08:29
RQnalioth, powerpc-install.iso?08:29
naliothRQ: yessir08:29
crimsundabar, ?08:29
dabarunderlines.08:29
RQk.... getting...08:29
RQubuntu-5.04-install-powerpc.iso, to be precise08:29
crimsunoh, just the underscore. Your client probably formats for you.08:29
naliothComputer__Guru: RQ: i'm kinda wantin to compile my own pkgs (for 64-bit PPC)08:29
Computer__Gurubut im from florida, originally, and if you wanna know the truth, both the rain and the heat here are a joke in comparison to summers in clearwater08:29
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RQ7M/s :) cute08:30
dabaraha.08:30
amonkeynalioth, package not found, where is it?08:30
eyequeuecrimsun:  lol, it definitely consuled me :)  btw, alsamixer reports: Card: Intel 82801DB-ICH4 and Chip: Analog Devices AD1981B before Item: External Amplifier [Off] 08:30
Computer__Gurunalioth:  right on08:30
nalioth!info audigy08:30
dabar_dont give me crap_08:30
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eyequeuecrimsun:  s/consuled/confused/08:30
naliothok fellas whats the name of the fscking sound editing thing?08:30
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eyequeuenalioth:  as in, alsamixer?08:31
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naliotheyequeue: no to cut/paste/edit audio08:31
crimsuneyequeue, yeah, you have a particular codec quirk. It doesn't affect the actual driver but the ac97 codec.08:31
Computer__Guruno editing program i know what hes talkin about but i forget too08:31
RQnalioth,08:31
eyequeuenalioth:  sorry, i forget that too08:31
RQrq@bliss:~/buaaa$ md5sum -c < MD5SUMS08:31
RQubuntu-5.04-install-powerpc.iso: OK08:31
nofearhey is it possible to mount a sata drive in Ubuntu?08:31
luminerdHow do I find out whether the system's specs are Linux-compatible?08:31
nalioththere IS a program08:32
rommerwhat version of bind is in ubuntu hoary?08:32
RQrommer, care to check packages.ubuntu.com?08:32
eyequeuecrimsun:  is there a fix or workaround i can apply? (so far, alsamixer each upgrade is what i use, but i'm thinking a newbie would give up)08:33
RQluminerd, what do you mean?08:33
dabar_underlined_ _text_08:33
amonkey!info audigy08:33
naliothamonkey: there IS a program, i used to use it all the time, and i'm probably spelling it incorrectly08:33
crimsunamonkey, try mp3splt08:33
RQnalioth, md5's match08:33
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crimsuneyequeue, currently, no, there is no workaround.08:34
Dinhaz08:34
Computer__Guruwhat ya do, is find the area of the file that's bad in the checksums, find an ftp program and server that support resume, login, resume the file where you need the patch, let it go for a few blocks, stop it and save it to a different name08:35
crimsuneyequeue, it's best to file a bug upstream to deal with it. Click the mantis link on alsa-project.org. You'll need to provide full system info.08:35
Computer__Guruthen use a hex editor to splice them int he right places08:35
naliothamonkey: audacity08:35
Computer__Guruyay for nalioth08:35
naliothRQ: which mirror did you use? and how did you d/l the iso?08:35
Computer__Guruyou remembered08:35
eyequeuecrimsun:  okay, thanks.  i'll file a wishlist bug as the time approches, if it doesn't resolve by then  roughly when is a good lead time for something like this (for breezy)08:36
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Dinam one noob question, i have somekind script for installing ipv6 but i don-t know how to run it? please help08:36
crimsuneyequeue, now is as good a time as any, but having it fixed upstream due to your ac97 codec bug will benefit more people08:36
naliothamonkey: audacity.sourceforge.net08:37
rheio_cohai...08:37
RQnalioth, i used lithuanian mirror and wget08:37
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epilochooray08:37
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naliothRQ: must be nice to be able to d/l 600mb in >5 minutes08:37
eyequeuecrimsun:  okay, cool.  are they rather tolerant of non-sound-fluent reporters there?  (thinking of theo/obsd, heh)08:38
nofearhey, how do u mount a ntfs drive in ubuntu?08:38
RQnalioth, well, i logged onto my box at work ;)08:38
amonkeycrimsun, exactly what i needed, thanks.08:38
RQit's in uni, just like the mirror :] 08:38
epilocComputer_Guru, ubuntu up and running08:38
nofearcould anyone possibly help me?08:39
epiloctime to explore08:39
amonkeynalioth, so audacity is open source cooledit? very cool, thanks for the tip08:39
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naliothamonkey: it works great08:39
naliothamonkey: a friend of mine used to d/l whole albums that knuckleheads would put up as one long mp308:39
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naliothamonkey: and he cut them into individual tracks with audacity08:40
naliothTac: burn some08:40
nalioths_dognofear: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically08:40
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nofearaight08:41
amonkeynalioth, on the subject of audio, know any good catalogers? i won't say itunes, but xmms just doesn't cut it08:41
La_PaRCaI am curious... Computer__Guru how exactly do you know where in the file the checksum is getting fudged up?08:41
RQc ya08:41
nJesshas anybody here used doom legacy? if so, will it run on an ATi rage IIc ?08:42
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nofearwhere do i put winmac_fstab..08:42
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nofeardo i rename it08:42
nofearand08:42
Cooner750how's this look? This is what worked for me. My instructions (just viewing from MyFileStash) http://myfilestash.com/userfiles/Cooner750/codecs.html08:42
nofearput it in a specific area? -- sorry im still new lol08:42
Computer__GuruLa_PaRCa:  ya got me, i was just offering up a ridiculously unpractical way to go at the problem :D08:42
Computer__Guruimpractical08:42
Computer__Gurumy bad08:43
naliothamonkey: rhythmbox? i really dont listen to music much anymore08:43
naliothnofear: read it, it has instructions08:43
epilocThis may be a horrible question, but why am I getting this error when trying to run glxgears : /media/cdrom0/rtl8180.sys08:44
benplauthehe... Gear Live got /.'ed :(08:44
Computer__Gururhythmbox isnt very impressive :> I wrote a jukebox that actually looked like a jukebox in flash once :D08:44
epilocwhoops, wrong error message08:44
epilocroot@blake:/ # glxgears08:44
epilocglxgears: Error: couldn't open display '(null)'08:44
benplautpopup blocker? :P08:44
Cooner750Computer__Guru: Did you see my link?08:44
dabarepiloc: such horrible question!! go read the conduct page at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct ;)08:44
Computer__GuruCooner750:  nope.. show me again08:44
Cooner750http://myfilestash.com/userfiles/Cooner750/codecs.html08:45
hondjecomcast has to be the worst ISP in history08:45
epilocrawr! attack of the moron08:45
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Cooner750*just temp. viewing through myfilestash08:45
Cooner750those steps are what worked for me08:45
amonkeyhondje, negative. aol's browser makes it the definite winrar for worst isp08:45
La_PaRCaComputer__Guru, your way is not only impractical, its impossible.08:45
Computer__Guruyah i got those packages :)08:45
paxhondje: why, they block certain ports?08:46
dabarhondje: w00t, I work tech support for them:)08:46
epilocdabar, i really have no idea why i cant run glxgears... any ideas?  Computer__Guru?08:46
Computer__GuruLa_PaRCa:  is it? alrighty then, allow me to ammend my statement. You should instead download random pieces of the file, and see which one, when patched, corrects the checksum :D08:46
dabarhondje: is there anything I could tell you about maybe?? I doubt it tho...08:46
Computer__Guruepiloc:  whats that?08:46
epilocroot@blake:/ # glxgears08:46
epilocglxgears: Error: couldn't open display '(null)'08:46
naliothepiloc: why are you running it as root?08:46
paxepiloc: running it as root?08:46
La_PaRCaComputer__Guru, oh, now that makes far more sense!08:46
dabarepiloc: close all windows, open a new one, dont be root, and try it.08:46
epiloceh... k08:47
Cooner750How's my link look? (Was I just lucky; or does it work?)08:47
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epilocsweet, getting nearly 1000 fps without 3d acceleration08:48
Computer__Guruepiloc:  OR install the package sux, and use it to su (sux -) instead, then your X credentials are transferred, OR as root set your X display veriable :D08:48
Cooner750??08:48
Computer__Guruvariable08:48
Computer__GuruCooner750:  it works08:48
paxepiloc: maximize that sucker and seen what fps you get08:48
Cooner750are those the steps that would work? or was I lucky....08:48
IcemanV9665 frames in 5.0 seconds = 133.000 FPS08:48
naliothdamn this new imac sounds great08:49
epilocpax, haha, now getting like 70fps08:49
epiloctime to install ati drivers, brb08:49
Computer__Guru2888 frames in 5.0 seconds = 577.600 FPS08:49
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Computer__Gurulemme maximize that08:49
hondjenalioth: I almost bought one myself the other day08:49
hondjeI decided I didn't want the hastle of using linux on a ppc08:49
naliothhondje: its Shweeeet08:49
aimarquit08:49
epilocComputer__Guru, dont cheat and minimize the window :p08:49
aimar#exit08:49
Computer__Guru421 frames in 5.0 seconds = 84.200 FPS08:50
Computer__Guruthats not so bad08:50
naliothhondje: i'm enjoyin havin an actual mac that OSX doesnt run slow on08:50
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hondjeheh08:50
hondjeI have a mini mac08:50
Computer__Guruand i was bitchin about this card, heh08:50
naliothhondje: but tomorry it will be ubuntuized08:50
hondjeit gives me nothing but headaches08:50
Computer__Guruhai hondje08:50
holycownalioth, tommory?08:50
holycowhaha!08:50
paxspeaking of deals, outpost have Hitachi 80GB Retail Hard Drives for $25 Delivered (ar) ;)08:50
holycowyou've watche too many westerns, ol chap08:50
holycow-_-08:50
Computer__Gurupax damn08:51
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Computer__Gurupax what about delivered, us08:51
Cooner750what exactly are "ffmpeg" and "gstreamer0.8"?08:51
Cooner750I always wondered08:51
epilocComputer__Guru, what vid card do you have?08:51
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Computer__GuruCooner750:  ffmpeg is an mpeg encoding package, and gstreamer is for streaming video/audio08:51
paxCP, I'm taking US, (ar) means after $35 rebate08:51
hondjenow that I think about it08:51
Computer__Guruepiloc:  you ready for this?08:51
Computer__Guruepiloc:  a 16MB ATI Rage Pro 128 Ultra 4X AGP08:52
epilocvoodoo!08:52
epilocno way!08:52
epiloceven better08:52
Agrajagffmpeg also decodes08:52
Cooner750Ah. So thats why it works now. I decided to put my 'instructions' on myfilestash for storage; because i'm on a LiveCD. so all gets lost at power off08:52
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luminerdRQ, I mean I need to get hardware that will have no trouble on linux...08:53
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Computer__Guruepiloc:  0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF08:53
Cooner750I know my video card is a GeForce FX 5500 256MB but yet it can barely run a screensaver in Ubuntu......!?08:54
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hondjeCooner750: I bet you need to install the 3d accelerated driver for it08:54
Computer__GuruCooner750:  you need to install the nvidia accelerated server and turn on all your gl shit08:54
frankCooner750: exactly08:54
naliothhondje: want my address? i'm fixin to order a mini08:54
Cooner750probably. But since i'm on a LiveCD.... um....08:55
hondjenalioth: heh, I'm keeping it :p08:55
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Madpilot!nvidia08:55
ubotunvidia is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto08:55
frankCooner750: its still possible to do but you will have to do it everytime you boot08:55
hondjemy minidv camcorder decided it didn't like linux08:55
Computer__Gurudoes nvidia have an Xorg server yet?08:55
Cooner750If I could get GParted to work...... I'd be able to make room on my external USB drive.....08:55
frank?08:55
hondjewhy would nvidia make an X server08:55
syndwhats the console cmd to find out localip?08:56
Cooner750GParted keeps giving error message "error occured while resizing partition." or something along the lines of that. However nothing on the partition was damaged...08:56
frankCooner750: I think I had the same problem and used qtparted instead08:56
Computer__Guruisnt that what x loads according to your card? vesa server for i dunno, ati server for ati, radeon server for radeon, nvidia server for nvidia, or i think there's a built in nv server too08:57
Computer__Guruyeah they're accelerated servers08:57
Computer__Guruim certain i read that somewhere08:57
Cooner750is qtparted graphical? I dont feel safe at the command line08:57
frankComputer__Guru: you're talking about drivers, not servers08:57
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frankCooner750: qtparted is graphical08:57
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Cooner750installing qtparted from Synaptic now08:58
thejunkpitanybody has experience running ubuntu under vmware on windows?08:58
anacronhmm, i just thought that, can i use macintosh drivers to install printer in linux, since thay are both unix based systems? (of course there are drivers for linux) but is this possible?08:58
frankCooner750: it fixed my problem resizing a ntfs partition08:58
Cooner750I hope I dont fill my RAM temporary while doing this... lol. it will freeze08:58
Cooner750i'm resizing FAT32 on a external USB drive..08:58
Computer__Gurufrank:  they're x-servers.. on woody it was dpkg -i x-server-accel-radeon.version.deb to get the radeon driver working..08:58
hyphenatedanacron: nope08:59
anacronhyphenated: can you tell me why not?08:59
Computer__Guruyou would look at it in terms of drivers, but they're the actual x servers08:59
Cooner750ok. qtparted loadng08:59
Cooner750loading*08:59
Computer__Guruor at least this was the case with xfree8608:59
Computer__Guruhas it changed?08:59
robotgeekokay...i've got a weird question, has anyone tried installing tiger without removing ubuntu?08:59
hyphenatedanacron: because binary compatibility is a bit more low-level than the general type of operating system :-)08:59
epilocinstall repositories by editing the sources.list in /etc/apt?09:00
hondjeifconfig09:00
hondjehttp://www.multipledigression.com/type/ <-- nice hack09:00
Cooner750is 2.7GB enough for Ubuntu (i dont think so)?09:00
frankCooner750: yes it is09:00
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Cooner750I have a blank unallocated 2.7GB on my external09:00
Computer__Guruis there a qt interface to python? yaknow the way there's pygtk?09:00
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drcodehi all09:00
drcodeany one know voice confrence with video server for linux?09:01
drcodethat work with h232 and share desktop ?09:01
hondjedrcode: gnomemeeting09:01
drcodeh323 sorry09:01
ricosuave17hey can someone help me compile from source09:01
drcodeI mean server09:01
ricosuave17hello?09:01
robotgeekricosuave17: what u need?09:01
ricosuave17plz i need a gtk engine09:01
Cooner750I get error "There was a problem with mkfs.ext3"09:02
paxCooner750: allow more if you can and try to stay away from qtparted09:02
Cooner750GParted gives me a error too!?09:02
Razor-Xricosuave17: if you have Ubuntu, you _have_ a GTK Engine09:02
ricosuave17i have a gtk engine for experience09:02
Razor-Xalthought, GTK isn't an engine09:02
Razor-Xit's o toolkit09:03
ricosuave17i have a special experience engine09:03
syndwhats the console cmd to find out localip?09:03
ricosuave17experince is a theme09:03
ricosuave17so i need to do manual compile09:03
ricosuave17is there anything i can do09:03
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Razor-Xricosuave17: hmmmm?09:03
Razor-Xa theme is a theme is a theme09:03
robotgeek:)09:03
Computer__Guru0000:02:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)09:03
Computer__Guruati tv wonder pro09:03
Razor-Xif English isn't your primary language, there are channels for other languages09:03
Computer__Gurujust a cheap ass 87809:03
Computer__Guruheh09:04
Computer__Gurudont i feel ripped off09:04
Computer__Guruoh wait, i stole that card09:04
Computer__Guruno, i dont09:04
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Cooner750I think i'm heading off to bed.09:04
Computer__Gurusleep is for the weak09:05
Computer__Gurubwahaahhaha09:05
Cooner750lol09:05
Cooner750I havent had sleep all night last night. Yep. I pulled a all-nighter09:05
Computer__Gurume too09:05
Madpilotsleep is a symptom of caffiene deprivation09:05
Computer__Guruthat reminds me09:05
Computer__Guruhow IS your sister these days?09:05
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Cooner750caffiene? I never drink things with caffiene (5 cokes a day)09:06
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Computer__Guru5 grams of coke a day?!?!09:06
Computer__Gurumy god man, cut back!09:06
hondjehehe09:06
hondjeanyone doing more than a ball a day has a serious problem :(09:07
Cooner750lo*burp*l09:07
Computer__GuruDamnit, Jim! I'm a cokehead not a vaccuum cleaner!09:07
Micksahaha09:07
Cooner750Coke-a-Cola. lol09:07
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robotgeekMadpilot: lol, exactly!09:07
Cooner750http://www.cocacola.com/flashIndex1.html09:07
kestasis there any way to get X-Chat to go to freenode.net automatically/09:07
kestas?09:07
robotgeekCooner750: the word flash make me go grrrrr!09:08
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Computer__Guruwe'vegot    togetthrough  this         snow    injust one     night, bones09:08
Cooner750sorry.. me dont do drugs. Coke-a-cola I hope you all know is a soda .... lol09:08
Computer__Gurui dont either, iw as just making a funny09:08
hondjekestas: click the 'skip server list at startup' button09:08
Cooner750Just calling it Coke tends to bring up a lot of things. lol09:08
hondjeon the server list window, naturally09:08
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Cooner750lol09:09
hondjeoh, yeah, me too09:09
HrdwrBoBcoca-cola09:09
HrdwrBoBnot coke-a-cola09:09
kestashondje: thats what Ive done but it doesnt connect to freenode.net, you have to type /server irc.freenode.net yourself09:09
rommerCooner750: whats Coke-a-cola?09:09
Cooner750a soda.09:09
rommerwhats soda?09:09
Razor-XCooner750: didn't your mom ever say ``no drugs boy?''09:09
Cooner750lol09:09
Computer__Gururommer:  a faggy word they use for pop down in florida09:09
robotgeekkestas: open up your server list, say edit and say connect on startup09:09
hondjekestas: on the shortcut, where it says command09:09
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Cooner750florida!?09:09
Cooner750lol09:09
rommerComputer__Guru: yea thats what i thought09:10
Cooner750yea. pop I call it either09:10
Agrajagwhy, it's doesn't go pop, it goes whoosh09:10
hondjeadd irc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu09:10
kestask thanks :)09:10
Cooner750lol09:10
hondjeor do it robotgeek's easier way09:10
robotgeekhondje: getting him into #ubuntu directly, heh09:10
Razor-XComputer__Guru: a cigarette style word?09:10
hondje:)09:10
Cooner750anyone here ever been to #applefritter?09:11
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robotgeekcan i get my own #myownchannel ?09:11
Computer__GuruRazor-X:  if that suits you, sure. although we don't call cigarettes fags here. we call homosexuals fags. faggy is just a way of saying it sounds gay ie off or what have you09:11
Razor-XComputer__Guru: i'm just playing09:12
robotgeekComputer__Guru: English did come from the British :)09:12
eyequeuecrimsun: bug filed -- https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=127009:12
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Razor-XI live in the states, fag == cigarette pisses me off ;)09:12
eyequeueoops, he's gone09:12
Cooner750robotgeek. Well. I accidently typed ubuntu wrong one day and I was the Op of a empty channel... lol09:12
mebaran151_my streamtuner doesnt work for live36509:12
Computer__Gururobotgeek:  yes, but there are vast differences between the two and the slangs that developed independantly of one another over the past 200 years09:12
mebaran151_complain about parsing errors when I load it from shell09:12
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frankmebaran151 do you run Ubuntu64?09:12
eyequeuerobotgeek:  /join #robotgeek09:12
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mebaran151_frank, how DID you guess09:13
robotgeekComputer__Guru: I know, i learnt the Queen's English first09:13
Computer__GuruRazor-X:  heard the song lost in hollywood by soad? all you maggots smoking fags out there on sunset boulevard09:13
frankmebaran151 because streamtuner crashes09:13
Razor-Xgah!09:13
mebaran151_streamtuner works for me09:13
mebaran151_everywhere09:13
eyequeuerobotgeek:  /msg ChanServ help register, if you need permanence09:13
mebaran151_except live36509:13
Razor-XI don't have a very high opinion of Englanders09:13
Razor-Xbut I won't bitch here, because it's not offtopic09:13
frankmebaran151 because streamtuner crashes on live36509:13
Computer__Gurubah09:13
robotgeekeyequeue: join #robotgeek , it isn't fun talking to myself!09:13
Razor-Xand, the hippies may be hearing me ;)09:13
mebaran151_frank, ah I see09:13
Computer__Guruengland rocks09:13
Cooner750wow. intresting. I went to #robotchat. and look i'm a Op09:13
Computer__Gurubeen there once09:13
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mebaran151_Razor-X, the Britishers can beat your pants09:14
Computer__Gurulondon09:14
Computer__Guruvery old city09:14
robotgeekRazor-X: join #robotgeej!09:14
Razor-Xmebaran151_: yeah, socialist hippy ;)09:14
robotgeekRazor-X: join #robotgeek!09:14
Computer__GuruAWESOME clubs09:14
Razor-Xgeej?09:14
Computer__Guruand neutropics :P~09:14
hondjethey prefer englandese09:14
Razor-Xthat too09:14
eyequeuerobotgeek:  i was just answering this <robotgeek> can i get my own #myownchannel ?09:14
robotgeekeyequeue: thanks!09:14
Razor-Xmost of the Englanders i've talked too still think the Revolution shouldn't have happened09:14
Razor-Xand that we should all be nice, royal citizens09:15
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Cooner750Ok. #robotchat is up and running. lol and i'm a op09:15
Razor-XCooner750: that's what happens when you start your own channel XD09:15
mebaran151_we are discusing Giant Robot Anime09:15
frankRazor-X: hell, I still am! (Canada)09:15
Cooner750?09:15
mebaran151_!09:16
ubotumebaran151_: I don't know, could you explain it?09:16
mebaran151_Giant Robot Anime?09:16
Razor-Xfrank: hah!09:16
ricosuave17dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gtk2-engines-experience:09:16
ricosuave17 gtk2-engines-experience depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:09:16
ricosuave17  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13.09:16
ricosuave17help me09:16
Razor-Xwell, that, and my political beliefs are far too fascist for England09:16
mebaran151_You know cartoons from Japan that invovle Giant Robots09:16
ricosuave17what does that mean09:16
mebaran151_Gundam Wing09:16
Razor-Xwhich is pretty sad, because i'm not too off moderatism09:16
mebaran151_Big O even09:16
Razor-Xnot _too_ much, ;)09:16
Razor-XBig O kicks ass09:16
mebaran151_it does09:16
Razor-Xsecond best mindfuck ever09:16
Cooner750? wow this is intersting being a op. (not really)09:16
mebaran151_Giant Robot Anime09:16
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Razor-Xmindfuck09:17
mebaran151_Razor-X, check out FLCL09:17
Razor-Xohhh, I've watched that09:17
eyequeuericosuave17:  looks to me like you're using a non-ubuntu deb?09:17
ricosuave17yes i am09:17
ricosuave17how can i fix it09:17
Razor-Xthat anime kicks serious ass09:17
mebaran151_that is some beautiful stuff right there09:17
mebaran151_which FLCL or Big O09:17
frankway off topic...09:17
mebaran151_way way way off topic09:17
anacronwhy are you talking 'bout anime here :D09:17
mebaran151_anyone up for cribbage?09:17
Razor-Xanacron: because everyone else is XD09:17
Razor-Xpeer pressure man09:18
Cooner750wow. It's 17 past 3 AM here. lol09:18
Razor-Xerrggg, stop it!09:18
Razor-Xyou're distracting me from Ruby learning!09:18
Razor-Xstupid off-topic people!09:18
eyequeuericosuave17:  that is wht it is strongly recommended to stick to only ubuntu debs ... changing libc6 would be the solution, but i dont recommmend that09:18
mebaran151_haha Razor-X you actually took it up09:18
mebaran151_nice09:18
ricosuave17ok well i really want this theme engine09:18
anacronRazor-X: it's just i was veri confused which channel this is :D09:18
Razor-Xmebaran151_: yeah, I did09:18
mebaran151_Ruby is a beautiful language09:18
anacronvery*09:18
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Cooner750off topic? This is a Ubuntu channel and where kind of.... talking about Ubuntu..............................09:18
mebaran151_when you write it correctly ....09:18
Razor-Xit's less restrictive than the languages i've worked with09:18
Razor-Xit feels pretty nice though09:18
mebaran151_yep, that is what comes from being fully oop09:18
amonkeyflcl? who's talking about fooly cooly09:19
Razor-Xit has a flow of it's own, which is pretty rare nowadays09:19
mebaran151_not like python where they hacked it on09:19
mebaran151_yeah09:19
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mebaran151_you tend to try to avoid self unless you are metaprogramming09:19
Razor-Xwell, Python has the same feel as C++ OO09:19
mebaran151_amonkey, I was09:19
Razor-Xit's optional, at best09:19
Cooner750lol: #cooner75009:19
mebaran151_C++ is a big set of hacks09:19
eyequeuericosuave17:  libc6 is basically what (almost) "EVERY" pachage depends upon ... meaning ... you have to be willing to break your whole system for this thing09:19
mebaran151_it aint no smalltalk09:19
Flying-Penguinwhat is a ftp program for linux?09:19
amonkeyit's something you do with your hands, like this09:19
Razor-XI haven't used smalltalk so *shrugs*09:19
mebaran151_Flying-Penguin, gftp09:19
Razor-Xjust heard it's awesome at scripting09:19
Razor-Xbut, i'm wondering what I can do with Ruby09:20
mebaran151_Ruby is a usable version of smalltalk09:20
robotgeekI am sticking to Python and C!09:20
Razor-Xi'm actually borrowing a friend's ``Pragmatic Programmer's'' book, 2nd edition09:20
Flying-Penguinmebaran151_: ok ty09:20
Micksawhere is lifeless when you need him09:20
ricosuave17oh else the manual compile also give me an error09:20
mebaran151_Razor-X, yeah good stuff09:20
mebaran151_what have you gotten through?09:20
mebaran151_I just took it up about 3 weeks ago09:20
amonkeyis there a fix for the 7 mouse button problem yet?09:20
eyequeuericosuave17:  just to illustrate, type this (and definitely say no when asked!)  "sudo dpkg --purge libc6"09:20
mebaran151_and can already do some neato stuff09:20
Cooner750lol I '/ping cooner750'09:21
mebaran151_amonkey, you only need a 7 button mouse for FLCL :)09:21
Cooner750interesting09:21
Razor-Xmebaran151_: the tutorial in Chapter 209:21
mebaran151_oh09:21
Razor-Xnothing special yet09:21
mebaran151_you going straight by the book09:21
Razor-Xyeah, I am09:21
Razor-XI generally prefer that09:21
Razor-Xi'm amazed at how deftly and quickly they explain the OO concepts09:21
anacron:D 7 mouse buttons, who need's seven buttons while mac work's fine with one :D09:21
ricosuave17ok eyequeue can u help me manual compile?09:21
mebaran151_this is a lot better than the book actually09:21
mebaran151_written by a core ruby hacker09:21
Razor-Xsimilar concepts in C#/C++ books take 40 pages themselves09:22
Cooner750alllright. I think i'm going to bed now.09:22
robotgeekanacron: ratpoison, "Kill the rodent"09:22
mebaran151_http://www.poignantguide.net/ruby/09:22
Razor-Xrobotgeek: ahhh, ratpoison is pretty nice09:22
anacronhaha09:22
mebaran151_he starts from the very basics and by the end of 6 chapters09:22
Razor-Xmebaran151_: you finished it?09:22
eyequeuericosuave17:  sounds like it woukd have many dependencies09:22
mebaran151_you understand metaprogramming09:22
Razor-Xerrr09:22
ricosuave17just one09:22
mebaran151_no09:22
Cooner750allllright...... 'night09:22
ricosuave17want to see the error?09:22
Razor-Xs/you finished it/Is i better than the book?/09:22
mebaran151_seriously this is a great tutorial09:22
anacronyou guy's are crazy09:22
mebaran151_I own the book09:22
mebaran151_and I use it alot09:22
mebaran151_I dont think I've read every page09:23
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mebaran151_I sort of use like an encyclopedia09:23
jesus-francogood night Cooner750...09:23
Cooner750night09:23
frankgood night all!09:23
Razor-Xmebaran151_: I won't read topics that bore me09:23
Cooner750hopefuly I'll see this room tomorrow, and mine at #cooner750 lol09:23
Razor-XI just skimmed chapter 1, at best09:24
Cooner750'night09:24
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ricosuave17Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.09:24
ricosuave17Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'09:24
ricosuave17to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable09:24
ricosuave17No package 'gtk+-2.0' found09:24
ricosuave17configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6.0 gdk-pixbuf-2.0) were not met.09:24
ricosuave17Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you09:24
ricosuave17installed software in a non-standard prefix.09:24
robotgeekricosuave17: use #flood or pastebin :)09:24
ricosuave17sorry09:24
Micksawhy have I no /usr/X11R6/lib/xkb?09:25
robotgeekthough, i wonder how to fix that pkg_config problem09:25
Razor-Xmebaran151_: directly after the book, i'm going to start reading up on what I need to program an RPG in GTK09:25
Razor-Xfor portability09:25
frankMicksa: because you don't have X11R6!09:25
mebaran151_Razor-X, dont use GTK for that09:25
mebaran151_I GTK is meant for standard user interface09:25
Razor-Xmebaran151_: what should I use then?09:25
mebaran151_ruby actually has a whole rpg game language09:25
Razor-XOpenGL is a huge huge thing09:25
mebaran151_I forgot the name09:25
Razor-Xmebaran151_: RPG Maker?09:26
mebaran151_I think that might be it09:26
Razor-XI heard it uses Ruby, never even knew Ruby was it's own powerful language09:26
mebaran151_I've never used it09:26
ricosuave17can someone tell me what that error wants?09:26
nalioth_zZzcdcameron09:26
Madpilotif there are any other Opera 8.02 users out there, can you check http://edubuntu.org/ and tell me if the logo is really screwed up?09:26
Razor-Xbut, I don't want a maker, that thing does most of it for you09:26
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mebaran151_I dont think so09:26
mebaran151_there is more to a game than writing base class09:26
ricosuave17i sue opera09:26
ricosuave17i use opera09:26
mebaran151_Razor-X, check out that tutorial09:26
mebaran151_he writes an RPG09:26
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mebaran151_in the 5th chapter09:26
Madpilothttp://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6158/warbard4wf.png  <-- this is what it looks like on my version of Opera...09:26
epilochoorah!09:26
mebaran151_most simple beautiful code ever09:26
Razor-Xmebaran151_: kickass09:27
Razor-Xbut, is it portable?09:27
mebaran151_yep09:27
mebaran151_anywhere ruby runs09:27
mebaran151_text rpg09:27
ricosuave17it looks cool09:27
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mebaran151_he is most genius09:27
dabaranyone use ez-ipupdate? I wanna get stuff set up. and the config file is a little screwey, it is a no-ip type of deal, for dns forwarding....09:27
ricosuave17ok someone plz my error09:27
epilocubuntu installed, wifi card configured, and vid card drivers up and running in less than 2 hours09:27
Razor-Xahhh, no, I want a graphical RPG09:27
mebaran151_nah09:27
mebaran151_but this will form a good base09:27
mebaran151_in like 40 lines of code09:27
Razor-XI've programmed RPGs before ;)09:27
Razor-Xthat's where my program base started, originally09:27
mebaran151_he basically writes a class file that will create all your base classes beofre09:27
nalioth_zZzxframone09:27
Razor-Xbefore C++, before Java, before C#, before Pascal, before all that crap09:27
mebaran151_you write a single thing09:27
Razor-XQBASIC09:28
Razor-Xin all it's elegance09:28
jesus-francoMadpilot: what is your current display depth?09:28
mebaran151_dont knock it09:28
eyequeuei've programmed in RPG too, though a long time ago09:28
ricosuave17eyequeue,  can u help me man09:28
jonas_30Hey everyone!, just installed Ubuntu and it rocks! now how do i access the files on my cd's ? :D09:28
jesus-francoeither opera or your monitor is setup wrong09:28
Madpilotjesus-franco: not sure, and not sure how to check. you mean 16bit vs 32?09:28
mebaran151_it gives you huge flexibity, because the code writes the traits for each class you create09:28
robotgeekepiloc: yay!09:28
jesus-francolinux uses 2409:28
mebaran151_so dont poo poo it quite so quickly09:28
Razor-Xhappier times, happier times ;)09:28
Razor-Xmebaran151_: if you turn out to be mandrake, i'm gonna fucking slap you09:28
Razor-Xthen ask you for your autograph09:29
robotgeekjonas_30: you have to mount them. right click on the cd and say mount09:29
nalioth_zZzoshiosan09:29
eyequeuericosuave17:  looks like you would have to upgrade all of gtk and gnome, as well as libc6 ... i don't recommend that at all09:29
ricosuave17so what can i do now09:29
mebaran151_Razor-X, http://www.poignantguide.net/ruby/chapter-6.html#section309:29
ricosuave17ill upgrade gtk and gnome09:29
mebaran151_check that out09:29
eyequeuericosuave17:  way too many interdependencies09:29
mebaran151_near the bottom of the page09:29
ricosuave17if it need to be done09:29
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^rob^hi09:29
eyequeuericosuave17:  i can't in good conscience assist that09:30
ricosuave17how do i upgrade gnome and gtk?09:30
mebaran151_if you get that code first time through, you are a rather gifted09:30
Burgundaviaricosuave17, what you mean, upgrade gnome and gtk/09:30
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ricosuave17liek update them09:30
^rob^can somebody tell me which is the package that contain keybord layouts for X - in KDE i have no keyboard layout list (control center)09:30
ricosuave17gnome and gtk09:30
Burgundaviaricosuave17, to what?09:30
eliUbuntuhow does one use the md5 to check the iso?09:30
ricosuave17newer versions09:30
eliUbuntunever did this before =S09:31
mebaran151_Razor-X, who is mandrake?09:31
eyequeuericosuave17:  that is the sort of thing that could break your whole machine, and not something one should do if they don't already know how09:31
mebaran151_eliUbuntu, dll md5sum09:31
mebaran151_(I am assuming you are on windows)09:31
eliUbuntuthats all?09:31
mebaran151_and run09:31
ricosuave17well i just updateing alsa09:31
eliUbuntuthanks then :)09:31
mebaran151_md5sum myisoname.iso09:31
ricosuave17nothing wrong with updateing gtk09:31
ricosuave17and gnome09:31
Burgundaviaricosuave17, newer versions of gnome are only in the development release, which is not really stable right now09:31
Razor-Xmebaran151_: i'm checking it out09:31
Computer__Guruquestion09:31
mebaran151_then just compare the numbers09:31
eliUbuntuwill do09:31
Razor-Xmandrake is an uber programmer ;)09:31
eyequeueBurgundavia:  he seems to want to replace, at a minimum, libc6, and gtk/gnome09:31
ricosuave17there is a newer stable09:31
Computer__Guruwhere's the option in chanserv to enable auto-opping?09:31
ricosuave1710.109:31
mebaran151_Razor-X, you never know who I might be ;)09:31
Burgundaviaricosuave17, you already have that09:31
ricosuave17nop09:32
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ricosuave17it 1009:32
ricosuave17i checked my version09:32
Burgundaviaricosuave17, it doesn't say it, but you have all the fixes from 10.1 and 10.209:32
Razor-Xmebaran151_: hahaha09:32
Razor-Xseriously09:32
ricosuave17fine then how do i update gtk?09:32
Razor-Xi'm gonna fucking slap you, then hold you at gunpoint and get your autograph09:32
mebaran151_the power of anonymity .......09:32
mebaran151_because take a look at that classfile09:32
Burgundaviaricosuave17, which version do you want?09:32
Razor-Xthe slap just to have felt how it feels to slap the gerat ``Mandrake''09:32
Razor-Xit's like when I talked to Dark Dread09:33
mindspinshort one, OT: whats the command to add a user without a home directory and shell useradd -l ?09:33
Razor-Xawesome awesome man09:33
ricosuave17the newest gtk 2 version avaliable09:33
Burgundaviaricosuave17, the newest stable gtk you already have09:33
mebaran151_ricosuave17, uh you dont want the latest09:33
ricosuave17 hwo do u know that09:33
mebaran151_the latest is never the greatest09:33
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ricosuave17i want the latest stable09:33
eliUbuntuso when you do md5sun name.iso and it spits out some numbers, then its ok?09:33
mebaran151_because you wont have a working GTK at the end of the day09:33
Burgundaviaricosuave17, are you running hoary?09:33
ricosuave17yes09:33
mebaran151_eliUbuntu, no09:33
mebaran151_you compare that number09:33
ricosuave17but i didnt have the latest alsa drivers09:33
Burgundaviaricosuave17, then you have the latest stable09:33
mebaran151_to the number they have on the site09:33
eliUbuntuor should i open the md5 file and compare the numbers?09:33
Razor-Xmebaran151_: what do you suggest I do graphics in?09:33
Razor-Xto make them portable?09:34
mebaran151_portable is hard09:34
^rob^is there any industrial theme for kde ?09:34
Razor-Xyeah, I know09:34
Burgundaviaricosuave17, after Hoary released, they froze it and no new versions are going into it09:34
mebaran151_even GTK isnt THAT portable09:34
mebaran151_I mean you have to bundle the whole runtime, and the bindings might go weird09:34
Razor-Xbut like, at LEAST 82% of the world uses Windows09:34
ricosuave17why??09:34
eyequeueeliUbuntu:  those numbers are so you can check *against a known published string* to see if it matches -- IF it does, then it is okay09:34
ricosuave17then ill use another repostery09:34
Razor-Xand for them, I have to do this09:34
mebaran151_well the WinAPI is crap for writing an RPG09:34
Agrajagricosuave17: that's what a stable release is09:34
nerdAny one know the name of the Xorg header files package ??09:34
mebaran151_you would have to get a DirectX sdk09:34
ricosuave17why does ubuntu have to tell me what to do or not to do09:34
Razor-Xyeah, but i'm a _Linux_ user ;)09:34
mebaran151_which I think costs money09:34
mebaran151_Razor-X, SDL09:35
Burgundaviaricosuave17, it doesn't09:35
mebaran151_Burgundavia, doesn't?09:35
mebaran151_cool09:35
Razor-Xmebaran151_: ahhh, there we are!09:35
Burgundaviaricosuave17, you have some of the latest stable stuff in the world09:35
Razor-XSDL is also on Windows09:35
ricosuave17nop09:35
ricosuave17i dont09:35
ricosuave17alsa wasnt latest09:35
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Agrajagricosuave17: if you want the latest and greatest, run breezy, and expect things to break, because that is what happens when you upgrade package versions in a release09:35
Burgundaviaricosuave17, almost anything newer is unstable09:35
ricosuave17it was like 10 versions old09:35
mebaran151_Razor-X, porting from SDL to DirectX09:35
mebaran151_is not such a big deal09:35
eliUbuntueyequeue09:35
eliUbuntuthanks09:35
mebaran151_they use pretty similar syntax or so I am told09:35
Razor-Xmebaran151_: how portable is SDL?09:35
eyequeueeliUbuntu:  yw09:35
mebaran151_pretty portable09:36
eliUbuntuand thanks to the others who helped as well09:36
mebaran151_I think you can install it09:36
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Razor-Xexcellent09:36
mebaran151_Unreal for Linux is done in SDL09:36
Razor-Xi'll have to learn SDL in Ruby after the book09:36
Razor-Xreally? crazy!09:36
Burgundaviaricosuave17, ubuntu does not put new versions of software into the stable version of Ubuntu09:36
mebaran151_yeah09:36
mebaran151_they used SDL because it was portable from the Direct X09:36
ricosuave17damn ubuntu09:36
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eyequeuelol09:36
mebaran151_I think all they needed was some ifdef's in the source09:36
Razor-Xahhh, I see09:36
ricosuave17well ill deal with this t-morrow09:36
ricosuave17its so fucken late09:36
Burgundaviaricosuave17, if you don't want to run ubuntu, there are other distros. Gentoo and FC roll the latest stuff into their "stable" distro09:37
Razor-Xr u thr????!!! XD09:37
Agrajaghaha stable gentoo09:37
Razor-Xok, I just had to get AOLer out of my system09:37
Agrajagoh that's a good one09:37
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robotgeekhey..firefox updates??09:37
mebaran151_Razor-X, from SDL09:37
mindspinagain, for if someone overread it :whats the command to add a user without a home directory and login shell useradd -l ?09:37
mebaran151_you might call GTK widgets to save09:37
eyequeuerobotgeek:  1.0.6 is in breezy, should be hitting backports soon, i would guess09:37
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robotgeekeyequeue: me still on hoary..ok school!09:38
mebaran151_SDL will provide the canvas on which you will put your little map screen09:38
Burgundaviarobotgeek, pitti is currently working on backporting the security fixes09:38
mebaran151_it provides a nice canvas and abstraction09:38
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mebaran151_other wise you would have to go straight into X1109:38
Razor-Xmebaran151_: cool09:38
robotgeekeyequeue: meant to type, old school!09:38
mebaran151_Razor-X, we shouldn't clog up the channel09:38
Razor-Xis there a reliable SDL-ruby wrapper?09:38
Razor-Xyeah, let's go to offtopic09:38
eyequeuerobotgeek:  hence i mentioned backports :)  just mentioning breezy as it happened tonight, so "it's in the pipe" heh09:39
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robotgeekeyequeue: i got some updates in the line,  apt-get update && apt-get ugpgrade!!09:39
eyequeuerob^:  cool09:40
eyequeuegrr xchat09:40
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nalioth_zZzbyjameson09:40
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Ghete1how do i make a folder "world readable"?09:41
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eyequeueGhete1:  o+r chmod /the/directory/name/09:42
laki_keren_1halo all09:42
laki_keren_1hi all09:42
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jesus-francohello09:42
eyequeueGhete1:  u=user g=group o=other09:42
_newbie_good morning09:43
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Tobi_damn kvirc :>09:43
eyequeueGhete1:  r=read w=write x=eXecute09:43
jonas_30cant access files on burned CD help :D09:43
Tobi_daniels: I just wanted to report that it's still not working with the new x-packages, in case you don't know it.09:43
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eyequeueGhete1:  o+rx chmod /the/directory/name/ if you want them to be able the "traverse" the directory and list filenames09:44
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robotgeeksic...the firefox packages were some gnome-support things, not 1.0.5/.6...*sigh*, *waits*09:44
eyequeueGhete1:  ugh ugh ugh ... syntax error on my part09:44
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eyequeueGhete1:  chmod o+rx /the/directory/name/09:45
danielsTobi_: yeah, found and fixed another couple of problems, will be uploaded next week09:45
mebaran151_later Razor-X09:45
Tobi_daniels: and xlibs still won't install. and if it would, it would delete the whole xkeyboard-config stuff.09:45
danielsTobi_: right.  that's the one I fixed.09:45
Tobi_daniels: nice. is there some workaround? it's my work computer and i'm programmer, so it's hard with copy&paste brackets ;))09:46
danielsTobi_: heh09:46
jonas_30anyone plays War2 here ?09:46
Ghete1eyequeue: thanks09:46
eyequeueGhete1:  yw09:47
rommerdoes anyone here know how to setup a round robin dns?09:47
danielsTobi_: not yet, sorry.  just try forcing an older version installed, rm -rf /etc/X11/xkb, and installing xkeyboard-config (you'll need to force dependencies)09:47
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xuniluserHELP: how do i mount OnTrackDM6 type of HD?09:47
eyequeuerommer:  i've usually added multiple A lines to the zone file09:47
robotgeekalrite, l8r guys!09:47
Tobi_daniels: an older version of xlibs?09:47
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qt2so...09:48
danielsTobi_: yeah09:48
qt2i've managed to mess up my sound badly :x09:48
eyequeuerommer:  foo A 1.2.3.4   bar A 2.3.4.5    baz A 3.4.5.609:48
rommerrommer: what should foo, bar and baz be?09:49
rommeranything?09:49
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jonas_30help: how do i access files on CD?09:49
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eyequeuerommer:  man, i need sleep, i said that backwards .... should be, for "foo.domain.tld" in the zone file for "domain.tld" three lins like this:09:50
Madpilotjonas_30: the CD should automount when you close the drive09:50
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eyequeue     A 1.2.3.409:50
qt2anyone happen to know how i reset my audio settings to what they were originally?09:50
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eyequeuefoo A 1.2.3.4      foo A 2.3.4.5     foo A 3.4.5.609:51
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cyberixaeWhat is the password for the hoary live cd?09:51
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jesus-francono09:51
rommeryea ok09:51
cyberixaeI accidentially locked my screen09:51
eyequeuerommer:  clearer?  duplicate lines, with just the IPs changing09:51
jesus-francocyberixae: just use sudo on the live cd09:51
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jesus-francothere is no password09:52
rommeryep09:52
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qt2...guess not. ~_~;09:53
cyberixaeSo what is the name of the screen saver proces?09:53
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cyberixaeOr is X triggered to die along with it?09:53
jesus-francoqt2: the only way I would know how is to create another user and remove your current user09:54
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jesus-francoqt2: make sure you give your root a password first09:54
Tobi_daniels: thanks. gonna try that.09:54
jesus-francoqt2: sudo passwd root09:54
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jesus-francoqt2: I know... but i dont know of another way09:55
qt2couldnt i completly remove alsa, oss, and esound, and then reinstall all three?09:55
eliUbuntuhow do you find the trash file in ubuntu?09:55
eliUbuntuin the terminal09:55
qt2loke "including config files"09:55
ompaulcyberixae, X is not triggered to die with it unless you kill X and it then dies with it :) the name escapes me but wait a moment and I find it for you09:55
jesus-francoqt2: sure but then your gonna need to remove its dependencies aswell09:55
cyberixaeOk. Thanks09:56
jesus-francoit would be easier to remove a user09:56
qt2eliUbuntu, updatedb & locate trash? :D09:56
qt2jesus-franco, isnt it possible to ignoere dependencies?09:56
eliUbuntuthanks qt2 :D09:56
IIIEarsqt2 - erm - wonder if reinstalling ubuntu-desktop in synaptic will replace reinstall sound...09:56
cyberixaeI changed the password and got out of the problem09:56
eliUbuntuwill try09:56
cyberixaethanks09:56
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jesus-francoqt2: dont know09:57
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jesus-francoqt2: im sure theres a better way to fix this, or example removing the configuration file in your home directory but i dont know what files they are09:57
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jesus-francoqt2: maybe someone else here knows...09:57
nalioth_zZzeliUbuntu: ~/.Trash, and others depending on what DMs you are running09:58
IIIEarseliubuntu - your trash file is in the home folder - put a check mark in view hidden files09:58
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qt2jeremias, heh, i was editing various files.... :P09:58
Computer__GuruLinux version 2.6.10-5-686 (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #1 Fri Jun 24 17:33:34 UTC 200509:58
qt2jesus-franco, so it's not just my home dir... ;)09:58
eliUbuntunalioth, qt2, IIIEars, thanks for your help09:59
IIIEars<<- considering Athlon 64 will - i need nerd skills to install it?09:59
eliUbuntunow i know where to find it :)09:59
eliUbuntuto use it you do09:59
eliUbuntui tried it09:59
nalioth_zZzIIIEars: 686 is more user friendly09:59
jesus-francoqt2: your sound is messed up right, by that you mean the audio setting are wrong10:00
jesus-francoqt2: those are stored in your home folder10:00
qt2IIIEars, it takes some effort.10:00
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IIIEarsnalioth - erm - this isn't really a rational decision on my part. farcry has a 64 bit mod. - lol10:00
jesus-francoqt2: I just dont know what files it is10:00
nalioth_zZzIIIEars: ya lost me, i'm mostly asleep10:00
qt2jesus-franco, no, its sound overall, for everyone in the system...10:00
eyequeueeliUbuntu:  ls -la ~/.Trash/10:01
jesus-francoqt2: oh...I see10:01
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eliUbuntujesus-franco -- you're the one who made the howto for the ati driver yes?10:01
eliUbuntueyequeue10:01
eliUbuntuthanks:)10:01
eliUbuntufound it10:01
IIIEarsnalioth - sorry - FarCry is a really good looking and immersive first person shooter. (sheepish grin)10:01
jesus-francoaliUbuntu: yes I am10:01
jesus-franco:D10:01
eliUbuntugood howto - i liked it10:02
jesus-francoI used documentation that I found on the gentoo wiki, and on the ubuntu forums10:02
eliUbuntuit proved pretty tough for me to get that installed though. ati drivers are notorious10:02
IIIEarsnalioth - thanks again for your help and advice.10:03
eliUbuntunext time im gonna get nVidia10:03
eliUbuntuit works nonetheless10:03
eliUbuntu:)10:03
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nalioth_zZzIIIEars: make ya a seperate partition to play with it10:04
IIIEarseliubuntu - yep - nVidia is a bit easier. - but for a home pvr the ati all in wonder card is all there is10:04
IIIEarsHm - excellent idea.10:04
eliUbuntuso, you're saying that ati is better than nVidia?10:04
jesus-francocouldnt of been done without teumima, great how to on the forums10:05
jesus-francoati's all in wonder is good for a pvr he said10:05
jesus-franconVidia however had better support for linux10:05
Micksagot a url?10:05
IIIEarsnah - just that personal video recording software on linux is the next really big thing.10:05
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MicksaI'm been researching PVR stuff a bit10:05
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eliUbuntupvr... means...10:06
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jesus-francopersonal video recorder10:06
thainanyone else noticed problems with firefox's security update?10:06
xuniluserDoes anyone knows how to mount a harddrive with this type "OnTrackDM6"10:06
mebaran151_mencoder: the best encoder out there10:06
mebaran151_thanks to codec par none10:06
eliUbuntuoh, so better importing dv10:06
IIIEarspersonal video recorder. - time shift your programs to watch when you are ready. skip through commercials10:07
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mebaran151_xuniluser, quoi?10:07
qt2jesus-franco, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 <- i follow this, and i cant seem to reverse the effects now.10:07
thainfirefox crashes when i try to open a new tab (i'm using the tab extensions)10:07
mebaran151_OnTrackDM6 looks like a name10:07
mebaran151_what is the fs on the drive10:07
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jesus-francoqt2: that tutorial messed up the sound in your computer ?10:07
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jesus-francoor was it something else...10:08
djpthain: only just updated this morning... just tried opening a new tab, using CTRL-T, and worked fine. not using the "tab extension" here though10:08
qt2jesus-franco, nope, it was that tutuorial...10:09
eliUbuntuyou guys ever heard of gnome-launch-box?10:09
eliUbuntugreat program10:09
eliUbuntuand happy to find it in the repos10:09
jesus-francolink? :)10:09
qt2jesus-franco, almost positive.10:09
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thaindjp: it crashed when i disabled the extensions. after starting it again the extensions were disabled but ctrl-t still crashed it...10:10
qt2thain, tried uninstalling them?10:10
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qt2jesus-franco, talking to me?10:10
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jesus-francoqt2: it seems easy to fix it. Remove the file /etc/asound.conf10:10
qt2jesus-franco, tried that... didnt work.10:10
jesus-francoand remove libesd-alsa010:10
djpthain: strange...just tried again, opened 5 tabs without any problem. will keep an eye on that though.10:10
thaindjp: hmm perhaps it's the -gnome-support10:11
thaini remember i had problems with openoffice's add-on gnome support...10:11
eliUbuntuhttp://developer.imendio.com/wiki/GNOME_Launch_Box#About_GNOME_Launch_Box10:11
thaindjp: that did it, it was the gnome support10:11
djpthain: i gather you are running hoary?10:11
thaindjp: yes10:11
djpok, great thain10:12
djpyou can start tabbing again! ;)10:12
thaindjp: well thanks anyway, even if it wasn't the tab stuff :)10:12
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thainargh...10:12
thainit started again10:12
thainx)10:12
_mikeis there an ftp server i can get kubuntu live from? im only seeing http10:12
thaindjp: now i can't manage to open the extensions window at all10:13
jesus-francodoes anyone know why firefox 1.04 in the backports repository depends on gcc4-base :o10:13
eliUbuntugood question10:13
eliUbuntuno clue10:13
eliUbuntuhad to correct the version number though in the about:config10:14
thainyou could easily backport gcc4-base if it's at all similar to gcc-3.3-base and gcc-3.4-base :)10:14
thainempty package with no dependencies10:14
_mikeis there an ftp server i can get kubuntu live from? im only seeing http10:14
epilocwhat is a good gnome-based cd burning utility?10:15
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eliUbuntu_mike you should try the mirrors10:15
Madpilotepiloc: gnomebaker10:15
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lhbepiloc: gnomebaker10:15
eliUbuntuits on the ubuntulinux.org site10:15
Madpilotepiloc: some stuff you can burn thru Nautilus, too. handy10:15
_mikeelibuntu, are they on kubuntu.org or ubuntu.org?10:16
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epilocdoes gnomebaker come with ubuntu>10:16
epiloc?10:16
eliUbuntuhmmm... ubuntu, not kubuntu - sorry for the misguiding =S10:16
djpanyone know why (very) occassionally, when starting up hoary, after logging in from the gdm, only the background colour appears and... that's it! i have to restart the machine and then everything is fine. This has probably only happened on a couple of ocassions however.10:16
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_mikeits cool10:16
jesus-francoepiloc: no it does not10:16
Madpilotepiloc: it's in the repos10:16
user1000Hi how is everyone doing?10:16
user1000:)10:16
eliUbuntudjp never had that problem10:16
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eliUbuntugnomebaker?10:17
eliUbuntuyes it is10:17
eliUbuntujust installed it recently10:17
eliUbuntudoing well here10:17
epiloceliUbuntu, how did you install?10:17
rommerdoes anyone here know how to setup a round robin dns?10:17
eliUbuntuthrough synaptic10:17
epilock10:17
eliUbuntui searched gnomebaker10:17
epilocthx10:17
Svennelitoargh... alsa-problems here. Anybody know how to get the microphone working? (sound playback works fine)10:18
eliUbuntuand voila there it was10:18
thaindjp: disabling both the tab extensions and gnome support seems to get me further; no crashes yet...10:18
djpgood thain10:18
ompauluser1000, good10:18
epilocdoes gnomebaker burn iso's?10:18
eliUbuntuyes10:18
user1000:)10:18
Madpilotepiloc: yes10:18
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djpi wondered if my problem  was graphic card driver related. i use the nv driver with my geforce2 card.10:19
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epilocinstalling now... awesome10:19
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Adrossanyone know some good osxdock programs for gnome?10:19
holycowofftopic, but i gotta say, the last few dilberts have been awfully clever10:19
epilocand how does everyone like evolution for handling mail?10:19
Madpilotgood night/morning/day/whatever, everyone10:19
djpepiloc: i use evolution and mutt10:20
IIIEarsepiloc - thunderbird is a bit easier to configure. evolution can make nicer looking mail.10:20
jesus-francoepiloc: it integrates well with the rest of gnome, and it is very fast, and has more features then thunderbird10:20
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eliUbuntui dont use evo, not very good i thought10:21
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eliUbuntulike thunderbird10:21
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Svennelitoi use tbird as well10:21
qt2so yeah...10:22
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ArdieMive installed kubuntu and when i try to start it i get this error: "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)"10:22
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epilocgnome is so much faster than kde10:23
epilocbut jesus its ugly10:23
epilocsorry :(10:23
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qt2epiloc, it can be made 'pretty'10:24
ArdieMis ther eonly gnome and kde preinstalled with ubuntu?10:24
IIIEarsepiloc - KDE is nicer looking out of the box, spent a bit of time personalizing gnome's appearence. - pretty simple and amazingly flexible.10:25
thaini thought kde is faster; i use gnome because it looks better :)10:25
pinoyrajahello10:25
ArdieMkde is one of the slowest ^^10:25
thechitowncubskde vs gnome war over10:25
thechitowncubsuse what you like10:25
thechitowncubsno one cares10:25
ArdieMthe developers do10:26
ArdieM:) lets go to the developers channel and spam10:26
RibsHi, anyone having problems with amarok?10:26
deFryskI care10:26
IIIEarsepiloc - check out - preferences > themes - gnomelook.org  has even more.10:26
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RibsWhen I start amarok now, it just quits after opening the main window10:26
ArdieMepiloc: hm hm "dropline gnome"10:27
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thechitowncubsribs, i am10:27
IIIEarsGnome and emacs on an ext3 filesystem - VI suxors - wild goofy grin10:27
Ribsthechitowncubs: Same problem as me?10:28
thechitowncubsthe ubuntu version is old10:28
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Ribsit was working for ages, then suddenly did this10:28
Ribseven deleteing .kde/share/apps/amarok didn't fix it10:28
ArdieMwich fs should i use for root home and boot?10:28
thechitowncubsRibs, yes, mine occasionaly hangs on the start, usually it works it self out after a reboot or the removal of the ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok directory10:28
thechitowncubslol ribs10:28
thechitowncubsyou thought of the same thing i did10:28
deFrysk /boot would be ext3 or ext210:28
Ribsthechitowncubs: :)10:28
Ribsthechitowncubs: people who use amarok a lot often have to do that, I think :)10:29
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deFrysk /home noone cares10:29
IIIEarsheh10:29
ArdieMand rooT?10:29
deFryskroot would be 4 me ext310:29
thechitowncubsRibs: the ubuntu package is out of date and i don't like that :'(10:29
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ArdieMokay than i use ext3 on all10:30
ArdieMas i did10:30
ArdieMbefore :)10:30
Ribsthechitowncubs: Well yeah, it will be. All hoary version numbers are fixed unless security updates come out10:30
deFryskext3 is safe and compatible with ext2 sou always safest choice10:30
thechitowncubsRibs: i know that10:30
deFryskso*10:30
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Ribsoh well10:31
RibsI'll settle with beep for now, I guess10:31
IIIEarsepiloc - check out this link for an even more personal looking gnome. "alltray" borderless windows+ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3893810:31
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Svennelitocan i use alsa for input source?10:33
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IIIEars.10:35
ArdieMwhy gnome as standard???10:35
ArdieMwhat are the pros?10:35
deFryskArdieM, why kde ?10:35
IIIEars!desktops10:36
ubotuIIIEars: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:36
epilocIIIEars, transparent terminal looks tasty :)10:36
IIIEars!desktop10:36
ubotuIIIEars: Are you smoking crack?10:36
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IIIEarsagh - ubotu the amnesiac10:36
tazlol @ ubotu10:36
LuNaTiK^GuYMy DVD playback is very sluggish....wot are the causes?10:36
ArdieM[10:36:20]  [ubotu]  IIIEars: Are you smoking crack?10:37
ArdieMHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHA10:37
IIIEarsepiloc - you can do that allready no need for alltrat except to remove window borders10:37
deFrysksince when is a bot funny ?10:37
IIIEarsepiloc bring up a terminal and "edit" > "current profile"10:38
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LuNaTiK^GuYcan some1 help?10:39
BurgundaviaLuNaTiK^GuY, have you enabled DMA?10:39
IIIEarsLuNaTiK^GuY, - we can sure try. (psst no ned to ask if you can ask a question we don't bite.)10:39
BurgundaviaLuNaTiK^GuY, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA10:39
LuNaTiK^GuYno i havent eneable DMA yet10:40
LuNaTiK^GuYshould i?10:40
BurgundaviaLuNaTiK^GuY, yes10:40
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AmaranthLuNaTiK^GuY: Yeah, it should make DVD playback work _much_ better.10:40
jonas_30Anyone here used Xp and can help me switch?10:41
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epilocok, i am having a little trouble setting up evolution10:41
epilocsmtp server is good....10:41
LuNaTiK^GuYok i'll try it then10:41
deFryskanyone using xp is beyond help :s10:41
epilocincoming server is good, user name is set, but cant find where to put password?10:42
jsgotangcodeFrysk: that's not a good thing to say for new people trying to dive in10:42
epilocfor evolution10:42
IIIEarsepiloc - yep - evo is painful to configure - afraid only trial and error is effective.10:42
epilocwhere do i input my password?10:42
epilocits the last step!10:42
visorepiloc: what are you trying to do my friend?10:43
epilocthere is even a checkbox to 'remember password'10:43
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epilocbut there is nowhere to type my password in the first place!10:43
jonas_30defrysk: true i cant understand, if its free, how come you have to pay to play a game you just bought... :D10:43
epilocvisor, i am trying to configure evolution10:43
loktrying ? is it so hard ?10:44
visorepiloc: with pop3 and smtp and the like?10:44
epilocvisor, if you have any experience with evo, please stop by10:44
epilocyes10:44
deFryskjonas_30, ?10:44
epiloclok, no...  but the password box is hiding somewhere10:44
IIIEarsepiloc - try getting and sending mail it might just bring up a password box then.  at least thunderbird does it that way.10:44
epiloc:)10:44
epiloctried that10:44
epilocno avail10:44
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deFryskepiloc, it should10:45
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epilocit just says "fetching mail"10:46
deFryskepiloc, sounds like you are trying to set up gmail ?10:46
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deFryskjonas_30, I'd rather not be privated unasked and even not privated at all10:48
epilocdeFrysk, no... Evo10:49
IIIEarsepiloc - i just configured it. when you finish configuration it brings up a password box on first use10:49
jonas_30Sorry, Am just from another planet10:49
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IIIEarsepiloc if it isn't doing that i might try unchecking "remember password" then getting mail10:50
deFryskepiloc, make sure the pop-server settings are correct10:50
epiloclol, tried that too10:50
epilocim missing something simple here... one sec10:50
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comadrejawhere is the networking configuration for startup ? because I have no auto eth0 line on my interfaces file, and it gets up10:51
IIIEarsepiloc - there is a button "check for supported types"  click it. open the drop down box beside it and non usable options will be crossed out.10:51
volvoguydoes anyone have any firsthand tips on setting up a non-system/non-boot set of drives with RAID 1?10:51
visorcomadreja: in System, Administration, Network devices or something like that (i have the system installed in spanish so i dont know how it is on english)10:52
comadrejavisor, I know, but I want to edit the file by hand10:52
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epilochmm, sendmail server is fine10:54
epilocthe pop server must be down10:54
epilocwhich does happen time to time10:54
Flying-Penguinwhat is the xmms plugin that lets you play .mp3s and wmas???10:54
visorcomadreja: /etc/network and /etc/init.d/ifupdown10:54
volvoguyFlying-Penguin: you probably want libmad10:54
IIIEarsFlying-Penguin, w32codecs??10:54
comadrejavisor, nopes, it's not that file10:54
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comadrejavisor I have it down on that file, and on startup it get ups10:55
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visorcomadreja: you want the files that start's the network interfaces or what?10:55
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LuNaTiK^GuYI put DMA on my drives...and now both Totem and Xine exit when i try to play a DVD10:55
comadrejavisor : yes, but there must be something else, because I have no configuration for eth0 on that file and it gets up10:55
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knudsen_Hello. I would like to get acces to a printer connected to a windows computer on my network. Could anybody give me a hint where to start?10:56
Flying-Penguinvolvoguy: yes I think thats what I was looking for10:56
knudsen_I have installed Samba, and I can connect to the Windows computer10:57
visorcomadreja: ok let me get this straight, your interface activates at startup but there is no info on any of those files for eth0 so you want to know where the info for eth0 is?10:57
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visorknudsen_: System, Administration, printers -> New printer10:58
comadrejavisor : that's it10:58
LuNaTiK^GuYI cant even eject my drive now :(10:58
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knudsen_visor: I guess I have to choose "network printer" and then "windows printer (smb)" ... am I right?10:59
visorknudsen_ yes11:00
comadrejavisor : it's gotta be some hotplug thing11:00
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knudsen_visor: Thanks ... now it works (I must have done something wrong the last time I tried this :-))11:01
visorcomadreja: i think that hotplug manages the network or something11:01
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visorcomadreja: /etc/network/interfaces has info about this11:02
comadrejavisor : me too... I'll check the hotplug docs, thanks a lot11:02
volvoguyFlying-Penguin: glad I could help. :)11:03
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epitronhey, what's the best sound mixer to use? esd is default, but it feels pretty crappy compared to windows' directx sound mixer..11:05
luminerdHow much of this is true...I've never really seen a cheap machine fail - or any machine really, except my laptop's hard drive...but if I get 50 of them what are the chances of failure?"cheap machines fail, you get what you pay for.  We've seen approx FIVE TIMES the failure rate in the Celeron machine I quoted over the AMD machine."11:05
davesevning all :)11:05
epitronhas anyone tried the other ones, like arts, alsa, etc?11:05
deFryskesd works fine for me11:05
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epitrondeFrysk: don't you notice the mixing lag?11:06
deFryskno11:06
epitronand the slowness when you adjust the volume?11:06
Flying-Penguinvolvoguy: that didn't make wma work :(11:06
deFryskno11:06
epitronhrm. do you have an SBlive?11:06
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deFryskno11:06
deFrysk;p11:06
epitron:)11:06
epitronwhy do you think i've got lag?11:06
davesfrom lastnight I got Openoffice installed via dgpk but via synaptic it's not shown as being installed but in a local setting and it's installed in the menus any help ???11:07
deFryskepiloc, dunno but you can alway try alsa or arts if you wish11:07
lokepitron>> your can be too slow, your sound card isn't well supporetd etc...11:07
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rob^daves, why did you use dpkg, its part of a default ubuntu install11:08
epitronmy isn't too slow... it is a crappy sound card though :)11:08
deFryskepiloc, in gnome just hit gstreamer-properties and set it up for alsa11:08
deFryskand test what suits you11:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYcan ubuntu use a soundblaster live! 5.1 card?11:08
epitroninteresting11:08
epitroni thought gstreamer was a codec thing...11:09
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loknope11:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYand can i control the features of the card like i would be able to in windows11:09
deFryskChurcH_of_FoamY, alsamixer11:09
lokdaves>> openoffice is installed by default11:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYok11:10
davesya but u want the latest openoffice 2.0 beta :)11:10
rob^daves, what for?11:10
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volvoguyFlying-Penguin: for wma i think you need the w32codecs package. i don't use it so i'm not sure if it's in multiverse or some external repository like marillat.11:11
lokdaves>> OOo.org 2.0 isn't really stable11:11
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lokif you really want it, use the backports11:11
kestasI cant wait for OOo base11:11
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epitronOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo11:12
epitronhey, what's that 3rd o for?11:12
davesrob^, lok: got a slowish pc and via windows it's quite fast for startup than the stable so thought to do the same for linux11:12
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lokI dunno I'm just putting the maximum amount of O in it :)11:12
rob^daves, a big no-no really11:12
davesrob^: why ?11:13
rob^daves, because you don't need the latest packages for everything, and often Linux betas are less stable then windows ones (for projects such as OOo anyway)11:14
davesya but the startup time still sucks :(.11:15
Burgundaviarob^, that it is incorrect11:15
rob^daves, yes, theres not much we can do about that11:15
Burgundaviarob^, the reason that windows seems less stable is that we don't see the true bets11:15
Burgundavias/bets/betas11:15
volvoguyisn't there a package that makes OpenOffice start faster?11:15
rob^Burgundavia, yes, in linux we do, hence less stable11:15
lokvolvoguy ?11:16
Burgundaviavolvoguy, yes11:16
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Burgundavialok, basically preloads openoffice during boot11:16
lokwell11:16
volvoguythought so. i rarely use OO, so it's never been a big issue here.11:16
lokit's not really faster for me11:16
se7enoneWhy does MS office (word + excel etc) open so quickly, and openoffice.org takes about as long as photoshop to start up...?11:17
rob^you could always try abiword11:17
rob^much faster11:17
Burgundaviaabiwords is quite nice11:17
davesBurgundavia, rob^: can you help me with grub ?? when it installed it only got the linux distro, have another HD with w2k any hints as to getting it setup ?11:17
volvoguyi second abiword. i much prefer it to OO.11:17
Burgundaviadaves, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo11:17
Burgundaviadaves, that might help you11:17
LuNaTiK^GuYdvd's on xine run perfectly....while on totem they are very sluggish11:18
LuNaTiK^GuYwhy?11:18
davesYa but as i've got OOo thought it'd be good to get the updated version11:18
lokse7enone>> word quickly ???11:18
lokfaster than OOo but not really quick11:18
BurgundaviaLuNaTiK^GuY, no idea11:18
davesBurgundavia : thanks will check it out11:18
LuNaTiK^GuYboth use libdvdcss2 i guess......11:18
rob^LuNaTiK^GuY, I get this also, solution: dont use totem11:18
Burgundaviarob^, totem is quite nice11:18
BurgundaviaI have never had those issues11:19
LuNaTiK^GuYi should remove totem yes...and get xmms for music11:19
rob^Burgundavia, yes, but on my pc runs like crap11:19
lokLuNaTiK^GuY>> use totem-xine11:19
davesBurgundavia: my box is a amd 500k6-2 wit @ 386meg ram ...11:19
rob^mplayer much nicer11:19
LuNaTiK^GuYis there a media player that sort of fits everything?11:20
davesLuNaTiK^GuY : had probs last night got gstreamer0.8-mad via synaptic and bang music to my ears :)11:20
LuNaTiK^GuYi followed the guide...and got all the codecs listed11:20
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lokusing totem for music is a bit too heavy for me11:20
Burgundaviatotem is not heavy11:21
daves<LuNaTiK^GuY: Totem... video mp3 and ... I used it with MDK b4 i moved to ubuntu11:21
lokand not really make for it11:21
Burgundaviabut it is also not a music player11:21
LuNaTiK^GuYyes but totem isnt playing good with my dvd's11:21
LuNaTiK^GuYwhile xine is smooth11:21
LuNaTiK^GuYwot is totem-xine?11:21
lokBurgundavia>> it's heavy when I just want to play a music11:22
Burgundavialok, ya11:22
LuNaTiK^GuYwhen i play music on totem...the colour display thing is sluggish too11:22
lokLuNaTiK^GuY>> it's totem but it use libxine instead of gstreamer ones11:22
LuNaTiK^GuYso i guess it has to do with totem's rendering11:22
LuNaTiK^GuYhmm ic11:22
lokrhythmbox is more designed to play music than totem11:23
Burgundaviamuine is also nice11:23
LuNaTiK^GuYand xmms?11:23
LuNaTiK^GuY:)11:23
lokxmms is old and ugly :)11:23
LuNaTiK^GuYugly?11:23
LuNaTiK^GuYits small11:23
LuNaTiK^GuYsimple11:23
Bubbling_Zombieso is BMP11:23
LuNaTiK^GuYand never gave me probs?11:23
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LuNaTiK^GuYi just impressed my buddy with 3ddesktop11:24
LuNaTiK^GuYhe remained jaw-dropped11:24
LuNaTiK^GuY:)11:24
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LuNaTiK^GuYnow...for serious stuff...is there a way to configure my nvidia driver further? tweak it a little?11:25
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binalo all, does Kubuntu (or ubuntu, not sure which to isntall atm) do disk partitioning for you?  and also how easy is it to upgrade between distros, do you have to download the ISOs each time?11:26
binamany questions :)11:26
hondjebina: Yes, very, no11:26
lokLuNaTiK^GuY>> there is a nvidia panel no ?11:26
hondjelok: run 'nvidia-settings' in a terminal11:26
volvoguyBMP - "Beep Media Player" is quite impressive for a simple media player.11:26
LuNaTiK^GuYlok, cant find it11:26
LuNaTiK^GuYoh ic11:26
BockBilboanyone here knows where will luminocity be available in ubuntu?11:26
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lokvolvoguy>> it's just xmms but a bit more heavy :)11:27
binahondje: wicked :)  atm, I have a fat32 partition and FC4 using ext3 and LVM something :).  Can it get rid of those and just use the whole HDD or do I need to delete the partitions first?11:27
BurgundaviaBockBilbo, no idea. have seen no sign of anyone packaging it yet11:27
hondjebina: you can do it in the installer if you want11:27
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LuNaTiK^GuYi want to improve the performance...nvidia-settings only shows stuff about colour etc etc11:28
binahondje: goooood :) im feeling lazy today :)11:28
volvoguylok: i thought just the opposite - less configs to mess with and it usually "just works". everybody listens to music differently though.11:28
lokLuNaTiK^GuY>> it's not windows11:28
hondjeLuNaTiK^GuY: read the 'readme' on nvidia's linux driver page for options you can add to xorg.conf11:28
LuNaTiK^GuYok i will11:28
lokyou haven't really perf to improve11:28
LuNaTiK^GuYthanks :)11:28
BockBilbobut, Burgundavia is it stable already?11:28
hondjealso, you can install nvclock-gtk if you want to overclock it11:28
mridlebina:  get rid of those if you want, all you need is a swap-11:29
lokBockBilbo>> no11:29
LuNaTiK^GuYno i dont want any overclocking11:29
BockBilboit looks so great11:29
BurgundaviaBockBilbo, no11:29
mridlebina:  swap partition and /11:29
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hondjemake /home it's own partition too11:29
LuNaTiK^GuYjust that graphics seem to run smoother in windows...i tot i mite get the same here11:29
hondjethat way if you switch distros, you can keep your stuff11:29
BockBilbobut.. i guess it will be added to metacity once its stable, right?11:29
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binamridle: cool. thanks11:29
binahoary is the stable version yes?11:29
mridleyes11:29
bina5. something11:29
lokBockBilbo>> it's too early for using it now11:30
mridle5.0411:30
mridleor so11:30
LuNaTiK^GuY5.04 yes11:30
binasweet :) tthanks again all11:30
BockBilbolok, i see11:30
mridlegl hf ;)11:30
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volvoguyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2911:30
BockBilboand, is there a date scheduled for it to be stable?11:30
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lokno11:30
hondje'when e17 goes final'11:30
lok:)11:31
LuNaTiK^GuYvolvoguy, 10ks11:31
volvoguy(some nvidia twealomg info.11:31
Burgundaviahondje, rofl11:31
BockBilbothanks for all11:31
volvoguyLuNaTiK^GuY: there's a few other nvidia related pages on the wiki that might help also. FYI.11:32
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volvoguye17 looks like it's going to be cool though - if someone besides rasterman is able to compile/run it. :)11:33
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LuNaTiK^GuY10ks volvoguy11:34
LuNaTiK^GuYi'll check them out11:34
LuNaTiK^GuYdid i say Ubuntu is awesome :)11:35
LuNaTiK^GuYan so is this channel11:35
LuNaTiK^GuY!!11:35
ubotu! is probably what u add before a sentence to talk to me11:35
volvoguymy pleasure. when running Hoary, my GeForce 5200 (pretty modest) totally rocked.11:35
hondjelol11:35
hondjevolvoguy: I haven't had much trouble getting e17 to build11:36
LuNaTiK^GuYi'm on a 680011:36
hondjeother than sourceforge's cvs going down a lot11:36
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volvoguyhondje: i haven't tried very hard, but i never really got it working quite right.11:36
hondjelot of deps for the fun features, though11:37
hondjelot of apt-cache search required the first time :(11:37
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volvoguyyeah. i think i followed some directions on ubuntuforums instead of using the official instructions. that's probably my problem.11:38
volvoguyif i keep thinking about it tonight though, i'll end up trying again all night instead of sleeping. :)11:39
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LuNaTiK^GuYyes Linux has a way of keeping us all awake :)11:40
volvoguymhmm...11:40
retro83very much so... :)11:40
LuNaTiK^GuYsometies its fun11:40
LuNaTiK^GuYsometimes is.......ewwwww11:40
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volvoguyi've been trying to get foresight/rpath installed to play with some of the mono stuff, but it doesn't seem to like my system. i've been bugging their IRC channel about it for three days. :)11:41
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nessmukI'm reinstalling hoary, but there are probs with my cd. I know that somewhere there are instructions for directing Synaptic to update to hoar from a warty install. Can anyone help me find that information?11:42
volvoguyanyone know what "ide0 at 0x1fe-ox1f0, ox3f6 on irq 14" means?11:42
LuNaTiK^GuYide0...a hard drive11:43
LuNaTiK^GuYusing an irq 14 line11:43
LuNaTiK^GuYi think :S11:43
volvoguyhehe. yes. thank you. ;-)11:43
LuNaTiK^GuYi'm just a noob thats learning bit by bit :)11:43
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Brikhallo what is the lib to see wmv with totem-xine?11:44
volvoguythat's where their installer just simply stops. neither ther IRC channel or the #linux channel have ever heard of anything like that.11:44
volvoguyBrik: you probably want the w32codecs package.11:45
Briktnx11:45
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retro83Volvo - have you tried with ACPI set off?11:45
volvoguynp. it's either in multiverse or marillat's repo.11:45
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Brikoki11:46
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tim_whats the command to open an application from the command line, but it wont 'lock' that command line?11:46
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volvoguyretro83: yeah, i've tried a million different boot flags - nothing IRQ related to tweak in the bios either.11:46
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killapoptim: put and & after the prog name11:47
Computer__Guruhey guys how do i see someones custom status message in yahoo?11:47
volvoguyHoary, Breezy and Gentoo all installed fine on this machine, so I'm thinking it's their bug.11:47
retro83volvoguy: oh dear, i have no idea then...11:47
tim_perfect. thanks killa11:47
killapoptim: eg. #gaim &11:47
noahmdHey all.11:47
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killapoptim_: np11:47
volvoguys'ok. thanks retro83.11:48
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daveskillapop: so np is to start a cli app and run in background what is it to bring it back into the forground of a cli ?11:49
volvoguyi need to crash. i'll catch y'all tomorrow. g'night!11:50
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lhbfor those kind of stuff i normally use screen11:50
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killapopdaves: i didnt get ur q.11:51
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LuNaTiK^GuYin my xorg.conf file11:52
LuNaTiK^GuYthe device section only contains this11:52
LuNaTiK^GuYSection "Device"11:52
LuNaTiK^GuYIdentifier"NVIDIA Corporation NV40 [GeForce 6800] "11:52
LuNaTiK^GuYDriver"nvidia"11:52
LuNaTiK^GuYBusID"PCI:1:0:0"11:52
LuNaTiK^GuYEndSection11:52
daveskillapop: tim_ asked about starting an app (i assume) via a terminal (cli) and it was suggested #gaim & would free11:52
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LuNaTiK^GuYbut in thw wiki about modifying the nvidia driver11:52
astro76daves: fg %jobnumber, jobs will lists running tasks11:52
LuNaTiK^GuYthere are lots of other entires11:52
LuNaTiK^GuYwot shall i do?11:52
astro76daves, search for bash job control11:52
LuNaTiK^GuYhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2911:53
gjccan anyone please confirm, archive.ubuntu.com breezy repo has MD5Sum mismatch, right?11:53
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davesastro76: Ah thanks abit like lfpt .... got 2 files/ whatever going and fg0 for 1st and fg1 for other and ctrl-z to but 'em in the background11:54
killapopdaves: putting an & after the prog name frees up the cli11:54
nessmukcan someone tell me what breezy is, compared to hoary? Is it the next release/version after hoary?11:54
epitroncan alsa let multiple programs output to it simultaneously?11:54
killapopdaves: i used gaim as an example.11:55
daveskillapop: gathered that but it was more howto bring it back to the foreground on the cli :)11:55
tim_where is the config file for ssh servers?11:56
daveskillapop: ya i was using u'r example of gaim in my post :)11:56
killapopdaves: :) oops... dunno how to do that... i usually use to launch apps11:56
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Nameeaterhas anyone had any trouble with opera and printing?11:56
killapopdaves: apps with GUIs11:56
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daveskillapop:well astro76 answered it no not nessasarily eg wvdial... I use it via cli, GTdial just wont dial out11:58
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davesand it'd be nice to have it ticking away in the background until i need it to disconnect to the net.11:58
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killapopdaves: oo ok... never done anything like that. :)11:59
davestried GTdial but .... nothing nada, thought'd be good to have as a visual sign of being online12:00
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kisaini am so pissed >.<12:01
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kisainican't beleve i wasted a perfectly good ubuntu install on windows >.<12:02
Computer__Gurukisain: HUH?12:02
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daves<Burgundavia>: got the website you referred me to on grub & win 2000 have altered menu.lst so next time i boot it'll be interesting to see if i can boot w2k :)12:03
Burgundaviadaves, cool12:03
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Burgundaviakisain, you installed windows after ubuntu?12:03
hondjewho is captain hotplug around here? :(12:03
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Computer__Gurui know enough about hotplug to make my joystick work thats about it12:04
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Computer__Gurudmesg | grep -i kye:12:04
Computer__Guruinput: USB HID v1.00 Mouse [KYE Genius USB Wheel Mouse]  on usb-0000:00:1f.2-112:04
Computer__Guruand my mouse :D12:04
kisaingodd@m windows >.<12:04
hondjehehe12:04
kisainit's me church _of_FoamY12:04
Computer__Guruwhats up church12:04
hondjeusb 3-1: config 1 interface 0 altsetting 0 has 3 endpoint descriptors, different from the interface descriptor's value: 212:05
hondjeanyone have a clue?12:05
kisainyou woulden't beleve the luck i had the last 2 days >.<12:05
davesastro76: search for bash control job ... is that via system monitor ??12:05
Computer__Guruhondje: btfoom12:05
kisaini want to destroy microsoft at this point12:05
hondjeditto12:05
kisaina nice big nuke right up gates a$$12:05
davesdon't u know MS never plays fair :)12:06
kisainthats s.o.b should be strung up by his 8@ll$ and beaten with a baseball bat wrapped in razor wire and then salt and vingar smeard in the wounds12:06
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hondjeIf I used Windows, I would have bailed a long time ago (wait, I did)12:07
kisainyea i had my ubuntu working perfectly and then i got a new sound card and ubuntu woulden't use it12:07
hondjeWhat's the point of an operating system that takes hours to clean after looking at a couple of porn sites?12:07
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kisainlol12:07
kisainso i installed windows12:07
PIANISTgood morning @ all12:08
kisain>.< big mistake seems my network dosen't like windows or by using ubuntu i actually got smarter12:08
davesin a separate partition ???12:08
kisainand so now windows mus be benieth me12:08
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kisainno i over wrote my ubuntu drive >.<12:08
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PIANIST!seen me12:08
ubotume <~me@bzq-80-40-61.red.bezeqint.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 20d 21h 31m 40s ago, saying: 'silly question: how can i check how much RAM my computer has (in general) [its not my computer, its my friends] '.12:08
davesSILLY SILLY ....12:08
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kisainyea12:09
kisaintell me about it12:09
kisainnow i'm on the wifes stupid win box and it's even pissing me off >.<12:09
daveswell it's like this write out one hundred time i am a sucker ....12:09
kisainif itwasen't her puter it'dd have ubuntu on it12:09
davesyour punishment :)12:10
kisainlol12:10
kisaintell me about it12:10
daveswell why not DO IT... i killed my box (mdk 10.0 & win98 - another HD)12:11
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kisainthat will be the last time i ever use windows EVER12:11
daveshated the default text in /mnt so thought i know .... killed my win98 data and killed my gui12:11
kisaini never really liked linux to begin with though12:11
PIANISTHey guys.... anybody know the syntax of |etc|network|interfaces12:11
kisainuntill i tryed ubuntu12:12
davesthat was the kick that got me to ubuntu (been a bit sick of MDK (RPM hell)12:12
kisainit has not failed me once it just will not play one game and that game i can live with out12:12
PIANISTHey guys.... anybody know the syntax of |etc|network|interfaces TELLLLLLLLLLLL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!12:13
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kisaini mean windows is ok if your a freakin moron or don't want to deal with terminal crap12:13
daveskisain:konw of a step by step method of creating repositories ??, got a SLOWWWW connection 56k modem12:13
kisainhmm12:13
kisaini just use a alterd sources.list12:13
kisainbut i don't have access to it right now12:14
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PIANIST? why that?12:14
kisainplus i have 5mb cable12:14
kisaincause i'm installing ubuntu12:14
PIANISTohhh i c12:14
davesPAINIST: why not go via computer->system-> network ?12:14
kisainwow 15min to install new record ^_^12:14
kisainwell for me anywho12:15
PIANISTbecause i have no X SERVER installed -.-12:15
kisainouch12:15
kisainwhy not?12:15
PIANISTcause i dont need it *g*12:15
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PIANISTconsole rulez12:15
kisainwow i have to have x12:15
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kisainjust text would drive me crasy12:15
PIANISTlol12:15
Flying-Penguinsame12:15
PIANISTIRC just text too *g*12:15
kisainhuh?12:16
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kisainwhats *g*?12:16
daveskisain: figured out that you run dpgk to get a packages.gz file of a .deb but everytime i do something in synaptic i get borked :(12:16
Flying-Penguinbut I see sexy buttons around my irc!12:16
PIANISTnothing12:16
kisainhmmm12:16
kisainweard sounds like your sorces.list is borked12:16
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PIANISTsexy buttons.... well... i thing I shall start apt *G*12:16
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kisainyes x is wonderfull12:17
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anacronsexy buttons are just illusion12:17
kisaini haven't had one problem with ubuntu other than my own stupidity12:17
nomis_lol12:17
PIANISTnot if you configure correctly *g*12:17
davesna 'cause when i kill my created repository everythign goes again12:17
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anacron"uuh i have sexy buttons, there's naked woman in every one of them"12:18
kisainwow nice12:18
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spoomonkeyhello12:18
kisainhi12:18
anacronkisain: nuke would be too nice12:18
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davesthis is the sorta prbs i had with MDK but it was more .... checksum issuies for the installation (even tho the files were good)12:19
tom_hi12:19
tom_sadf12:19
tom_how can i format a harddisk i just inserted and connected? anyone knows?12:19
kisainhmmm apt-get lill bill-gates with ubuola-virus?12:19
LuNaTiK^GuYi install gDesklets.....now i started the Daemon....but i have no idea how it works....wot should i do?12:19
davesanacron: sexy buttons...12:19
tom_anyone knows how to format an harddisk? the command or something12:20
davestom_ fdisk or csfisk12:20
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tom_i don't need to give the exact harddisk?12:20
tom_in ubuntu i mean12:20
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toowoombahello12:21
davestoowooba: aussie i bet :)12:21
toowoombayep12:21
davesI'm just to the right of ya :)12:22
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toowoombai am using ubuntu but want to compile and run a kde program, if I isntall the kde devel libs, it will install kde base, will that change my desktop to kde?12:22
toowoombabrisbane?12:22
waterwallyis there a ausie irc ???12:22
toowoombahelidon?12:22
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davesyou give it away with a name like that... na NZ12:22
lonetreehi hi pple12:23
davesSth hemeisphere12:23
LuNaTiK^GuYi installed gDesklets.....now i started the Daemon....but i have no idea how it works....wot should i do?12:23
toowoombaaren't nth and south islands the 7th and 8th states?12:23
lonetreejust like to check if anyone here have problem with file date and time while copying over a network share folder12:23
daveswaterwally: go to a map (big white place at bottom of world12:24
toowoombatom, I would install tqparted12:24
lonetreeanyine?12:24
lonetreeanyone?12:24
toowoombaoops, qtparted or gparted12:24
daves2 countries 1 nz other australia surrounded by water, NZ by south pacific ocean12:25
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toowoombaaustralia much better at cricket and rugby12:25
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LuNaTiK^GuYplzzz....how do i install desklets......i already installed the gDesklets daemon12:26
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PIANISTHey... now Ive got the XSERVER running... how do I set a autostart entry. So that gkrell starts with gnome??????12:27
kisainif i where you i'd use gkrellm instead of gdesklets12:27
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kisainif you have it running ingnome12:28
LuNaTiK^GuYi am in gnome yes12:28
kisainyou should just log out and save your session12:28
LuNaTiK^GuYwot are gkrellm?12:28
PIANISTjust like gdesklets only better12:29
kisaingkrellm is kinda like g desklets but it works12:29
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toowoombawhy does vino-server use so much cpu?12:29
kisainbecause it likes to12:29
kisain^_^12:29
LuNaTiK^GuYsudo apt-get gkrellm?12:29
PIANISTkisain: was this answer for me? you shoukd just log .....12:29
kisainyes12:29
PIANISTok thnx12:29
kisainsudo apt-get install gkrellm12:29
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davestoowoomba now ya getting picky, i mean we LET U flies win otherwise we'd never hear the end of thing....12:29
LuNaTiK^GuYE: Invalid operation gkrellm12:30
davesie the underarm thing ....12:30
toowoombahaha12:30
kisainall i do is start gkrellm and log out12:30
kisainthen log back in it should start automaticly12:30
toowoombathat was a long, long time ago!  my wife wasn't even born then12:30
LuNaTiK^GuYi cant sudo apt-get gkrellm12:30
LuNaTiK^GuYit says E: Invalid operation gkrellm12:30
kisainyes12:30
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davesso u'r into ....12:31
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nophixLuNaTiK^GuY: sudo apt-get install gkrellm12:31
kisainyes cause it sudo apt-get install gkrellm12:31
kisainlol12:31
LuNaTiK^GuYowww sorerrry :)12:31
LuNaTiK^GuYgeez12:31
LuNaTiK^GuYi always forget something12:31
davessorry i am thinking u'r as old as me 40+12:31
toowoombahaha12:32
toowoombathis ubuntu stuff is pretty cool12:32
davestoowoomba: not very into rugby or cricket, my son want to play cricket this summer but i'm not that keen12:32
patgrysliun ptit bonjour !pour esseyer xchat12:32
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ChurcH_of_FoamYyes12:33
toowoombaI like to play cricket but hate standing in the sun all day, it's a dilema12:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm finally off that stupid windows machene12:33
davesya i just moved to it from mandrake, still getting my head around gnome and how debian/ubuntu works12:33
luminerdAnyone set up LTSP on a thin-client network here?12:33
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davessometime it's a real shit 'cause i can't do things i did under MDK as fast12:34
LuNaTiK^GuYno i dont want pc stats...i want stuff that looks MAC like12:34
LuNaTiK^GuYthats y i needed gDesklets12:34
LuNaTiK^GuY:(12:34
toowoombamy mate and I are seeing what it's like to go windows free.  I am on ubuntu, he is tring mandrake12:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYnow time to install ubuntu on my other box ^_^12:34
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ChurcH_of_FoamYtoowoomba once you use ubuntu you'll hate windows12:35
PIANISTback12:35
djpclearlooks, milk 2.1 and suede 2 icons here. looks lovely! ;)12:35
PIANISTisnt true12:35
toowoombawill still be working with windows for some time to come12:35
davestoowoomba what version of mandrake ?12:36
PIANISTfor gaming windows is much better... but other stuff: UBUNTU RULEZ!12:36
djpgave up on windows totally over a year ago12:36
LuNaTiK^GuYI want to make my gnome look more MAC OS like....i was told gDesklets should do the trick...but i have no idea how to make it work...any1 can help with it?12:36
toowoombadon't know, I think it's the latest12:36
davestoowoomba:i was on 10 official12:36
toowoombaonlt started on the weekend so I guess he would have got the most recent12:36
toowoombawhy did you switch?12:36
davestoowoomba: so it's be manddreiva 2005le or something12:36
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toowoombahe is not online so can't ask12:37
scorpio2002hi there!12:37
scorpio2002:-)12:37
Alessioolo12:37
toowoombai had a play with mdk around 9 but wasn't that inpressed12:37
djpLuNaTiK^GuY: go here http://gnome-look.org/ and here http://art.gnome.org/12:37
davestoowoomba: old h/w p200 146ram support getting shitty (sorta)12:37
djpLuNaTiK^GuY: that should help you on your way...12:37
scorpio2002can you take a look at this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50729 - thx12:37
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davesha I started with 7.2 boxed and then got 8.2 then 9.1 then 10.0 @ 2 months after official was released12:38
toowoombacool12:38
iobosshi12:38
LuNaTiK^GuYi've been to gnome-look12:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYyou want to game in linux get point2playu12:38
hondjedaves: hehe, so did I12:39
daveslike used to kde so i'm like starting out again a bit12:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's what i use12:39
hondjewindows wouldn't install, so I bought mdk 7.2 and never went back12:39
scorpio2002does anybody know why ubuntu's suddenly entering runlevel 2 at the boopstrap???12:39
toowoombaI have been playing with linux on and off for years - slackware/redhat/mandrake/debian/fedora/ubuntu12:39
hondjeum, ubuntu SHOULD boot into runlevel 212:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYi used to linux installs in my life12:39
toowoombadownlaoded way too many isos12:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYgentoo scared the hell outta me12:39
davesna things were just going slower and slower12:39
scorpio2002hondje, so it is normal?12:39
scorpio2002:D12:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i quit linux then i tryed ubuntu12:39
hondjeYes12:39
djpLuNaTiK^GuY: then you should have found different application, window border and icon themes to help you make your desktop look however you want12:39
scorpio2002sorry, i was used to fedora12:40
scorpio2002:D12:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYand now here i am ^_^ again :p12:40
daveswhen i stuffed up my HD's my wife BITCXHED at me ....12:40
LuNaTiK^GuYdjp, not really lol12:40
scorpio2002I switched to ubuntu because i was fed uo with fedora :|12:40
daveswhy did you do that can't i get onto linux anymore ....12:40
rob^ok, is there a reason that despite downloading all the ubuntu-calandar-month packages I still dont have the wallpapers?12:40
toowoombamy wife has her own computer, less trouble that way12:40
davesnow that's one for the books i thought since she knows nuth'n bout pcs12:41
toowoombarob, it just puts them into a dir somewhere12:41
rob^toowoomba, what directory12:41
=== ChurcH_of_FoamY wonders why us army hasen't declared war on microsoft
ChurcH_of_FoamYand confiscated gates money and property in an illigal serch and sesure12:42
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davesrob^:'cause they (ms) could give 'em hell anytime night or day think about all the MS oses ...12:42
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djpLuNaTiK^GuY: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2516512:43
davesand don't forget the holes they could open for crakcers etc12:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea what about all the win oses?12:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh yea i suppose12:43
davesthe us army would be mince meat12:43
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ChurcH_of_FoamYbut m$ hackers are usually 12 year old shits with nothing better to do12:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYi know i used to be one12:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm now 27 lol12:43
luminerd'lo,  Anyone set up LTSP on a thin-client network here?12:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYi figured it out with win 3.1 for workgroups12:44
daveswell i like to think of hackers as folks who pull things apart and fix 'em or make 'em better12:44
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ChurcH_of_FoamYnormally they are12:44
LuNaTiK^GuYi want to be one :)12:44
djpdaves: exactly12:44
ograluminerd, probably #edubuntu ?12:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut then theres those few....12:44
LuNaTiK^GuYlol12:45
luminerdogra, thanks12:45
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davesfigured what out ?? how to make win 4 w groups crash ?12:45
djpdaves: otherwise if they are breaking, busting or defacing things they are crackers12:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYit used to work for me way back in the day12:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYand it's win 3.11 for work groups12:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYnot any current version12:45
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jonohi all12:45
LuNaTiK^GuYwin 3.11 was a little ok12:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYhi ^_^12:45
LuNaTiK^GuYfor its time12:45
jonois gstreamer 0.9 in breezy?12:46
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ChurcH_of_FoamYyea it was kinda decent12:46
djphi jono!12:46
LuNaTiK^GuYmuch more reliable than win95 :)12:46
hondjeboth sucked12:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYor melenium12:46
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hondjeI can't believe we used to make bootdisks to play games12:46
jonohi djp :)12:46
davesya i was about when win 3.0 came out crappy bit of s/w12:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol12:46
LuNaTiK^GuYthen things started improvinf on 2k/xp12:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYi remeber that12:46
slipjigAnyone know how to prevent Ubuntu synchronising its time and date with an NTP server at boot, but choose some other time to synchronise instead?  I use a laptop which isn't always net-connected.  If I'm not on a network, startup takes ages while the ntp process tries to find a time server...12:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYreally where?12:46
davesfor who ?12:46
LuNaTiK^GuYlolllllll12:47
[Spooky] hey all, i need to convert some mp3s to ogg, you have any name on some good software to use ?12:47
toowoombatom, still need to know about the calendar wallpaper?12:47
LuNaTiK^GuYnow i'm being less biased....12:47
hondjetoowoomba: if he doesn't, I do12:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYmicrosoft make decent software O_o?12:47
djpjono: gstreamer0.9-0.10 should be included in gnome 2.1212:47
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ChurcH_of_FoamYshit i only benn usinging ubuntu for a few monthes12:47
LuNaTiK^GuYfor games M$ was always decent12:47
LuNaTiK^GuY:)12:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i hate m$ even more12:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYtrue12:47
djpjono: sorry will be ready for...12:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut thats about it12:47
jonodjp, cool12:48
hondjedon't do that M$ thing please12:48
daveswell they only have XXX numbers of programmers and heaps of pr folks12:48
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hondjeThat got old in like, 97 :)12:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea they have like 2000 proggrammers12:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYand not one of them can make a decent os?12:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYthen theres linux12:48
LuNaTiK^GuYdecent about wot though?12:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYfor some reason if you find the right distro12:48
LuNaTiK^GuYwot do u want from windows?12:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYit just works12:48
daveswell now hold on a bit they're using their sweeds abit now12:49
djpjono: i think breezy is using gnome 2.11 but i'm not sure. still hary here!12:49
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jonoI am just install breezy again in vmware12:49
djphoary even! hary as well if you like jono!12:49
LuNaTiK^GuYwindows and linux have different design philosophies12:49
jonoheh :)12:49
hondjebreezy would have to use 2.11 since 2.12 doesn't come out until like 5 days before breezy does12:49
toowoombathe porn is in /usr/share/backgrounds12:49
LuNaTiK^GuYlinux tries to give u a top-notch stable platform (once configured well)12:49
hondjetoowoomba: thanks12:49
djphondje: thanks.12:49
davesthey're getting the better minds into the fold and giving 'em money for jam and reducing some development12:49
LuNaTiK^GuYwindows just tries to give u everything...at the expense of stability12:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea windows dosen't always work12:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYand linux does12:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYmaybe12:50
LuNaTiK^GuYwindows always worked for me......12:50
davestoowoomba: porn in ubuntu ?12:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYreally? wow thats a first12:50
LuNaTiK^GuYwot didnt work?12:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYi've always had isshues with m$ software12:50
daves<LuNaTiK^GuY>: so does a gun :)12:50
LuNaTiK^GuYall drivers work...all tihngs got set up12:50
toowoombaubuntu-calendar12:50
LuNaTiK^GuYlol daves12:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYum well on the current box that has windows12:51
LuNaTiK^GuYwe're just discussing12:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYhome networking12:51
LuNaTiK^GuYhome networking on WinXp pro is a breeze.....i cant argue against that!!12:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYit just stopped working one day12:51
LuNaTiK^GuYi'm not saying i dont like Ubuntu...its awesome!12:51
djpLuNaTiK^GuY: did you check out the link to the Panther theme?12:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYniether can i untill it breaks12:51
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daveswhy not turn the power button on again :)12:51
LuNaTiK^GuYdjp i didnt find the panther theme yet :S12:51
djpLuNaTiK^GuY: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2516512:52
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toowoombawin2k is pretty solid12:52
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PIANISTTIGER STYLE12:52
Computer__Guruyeah 2k is solid, xp is pretty nice too12:52
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davesi coach the tiger soccer team ... you like us ?12:52
djpLuNaTiK^GuY: read the description it tells you how the guy created to overall look12:52
PIANIST2k is bugged12:52
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LuNaTiK^GuYWOWWWW12:52
jonoso is X borked in breezy?12:52
toowoombaubuntu is cheaper than 2k12:53
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davestime for bed ..... nice chatting12:53
PIANISTnot the tiger soccer team..... welll for real i really dont know who they are. I mean TIGER OS X.... beneath UBUNTU apple rulez too12:53
Computer__Guruwow that ALMOST looks as good as it does in kde :D:D12:53
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davestoowoomba .... GO WARRIORS :)12:53
LuNaTiK^GuYAPPLE's got a fine GUI12:53
toowoombago the clydesdales12:53
PIANISTyeah12:54
LuNaTiK^GuYif we're not biased...we should agree with that12:54
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PIANISTok.. i have to leave cya @ all12:54
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djpjono: try here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-35143.html12:55
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wezzer-hello12:55
wezzer-I have ISA NE2000 network card12:55
wezzer-dmesg shows it up normally, but ifconfig shows nothing12:55
wezzer-running hoary12:55
toowoombasee ya guys12:55
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djpjono: and maybe here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-40564.html12:56
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Echelon-Hhi!12:58
Flying-Penguinhey guys... how do I make a program start up with my computer?12:58
jonodjp, so its just the symlink issue to fix when I upgrade12:58
Echelon-HMy cousin is using at the moment liveCD, is there a command that he can type to add hebrew font?12:58
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scorpio2002how do I install my printer in ubuntu?12:59
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djpjono: looks that way. i haven't had the nerve to dip into breezy yet. i normally wait for the release date. wimp, i know!12:59
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djpsomebody here must be using breezy? anyone?01:00
renedoxhow do I enable PHP?01:00
killapopFlying-Penguin: how do u mean... u want to launch an application?01:00
Computer__Gurujay go sleep now01:01
Computer__Gurupeace, love, and chicken grease01:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYlol never herd that one before01:01
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hussamhey anybody tried the gtk2 theme clearlooks_quicksilver 0.6.2 ?01:02
hussamkickass theme.01:02
LuNaTiK^GuYyes01:02
LuNaTiK^GuYits cool01:02
hussamI don't have gnome but I use it on xfce01:02
k4rp0rhow can i change my port in bittornado (using ubuntu)01:03
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Flying-Penguinkillapop: sorry no one was saying anything so I stoped looking01:04
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Flying-Penguinkillapop: I guss waht I realy want to do is launch a term command when I log in01:05
nico_32hi01:05
renedoxso... can anyone help me with my PHP enabling problem?01:05
KB2000renedox: i just got in, what's your prob?01:05
renedoxum...01:06
renedoxI uninstalled PHP401:07
renedoxand installed MySQL01:07
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hondje!lamp01:07
uboturumour has it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary01:07
renedoxwhen I reinstalled PHP4 after my MySQL install01:07
renedoxPHP "doesn't work" anymore01:07
KB2000i think you might need to set php in your apache config file01:07
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renedoxwhat do I need to change?01:08
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nico_32renedox, apache or apache 2 ?01:09
renedoxapache201:09
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KB2000i have the following lines in my /etc/apache/httpd.conf01:09
Funraiserhow come opera is not on synaptic?01:09
KB2000    AddType application/x-httpd-php .php01:09
KB2000    AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps01:09
nico_32renedox,01:09
renedoxKB2000: I have those in apache2.conf as well (it's apache2.conf in... apache2)01:10
renedoxnico_32: yes?01:10
nico_32is /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.load exist ?01:10
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nico_32and /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.conf ?01:10
Funraiserdoes someone use opera? (the webbrowser)01:10
renedoxnico_32: hang on, I'll just check01:10
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renedoxI have /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf01:11
renedoxnot /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.conf01:11
nico_32okay01:11
nico_32cp /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/01:11
nico_32cp /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.load /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/01:11
nico_32and /etc/init.d/apache2 restart01:12
chrissturmnico_32,  use ln -s and not cp01:12
wezzer-does anyone have NE2000 network card _working_ in ubuntu?01:12
renedoxnico_32: yip, just did all that01:12
renedoxbut it still doesn't load/read .php pages01:12
knjWhere is the "boot script" located?01:13
Echelon-Hhow can i add languages to ubuntu?01:13
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nico_32renedox, in your apache2.conf, is that ( http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/698 ) present ?01:14
renedoxnico_32: what?01:14
nico_32http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/69801:14
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renedoxnico_32: hang on, I think I saw it in there, I'll just check01:15
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nico_32renedox, and is libapache2-mod-php4  installed ?01:16
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renedoxnico_32: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/698 is present01:17
nico_32okay01:17
renedoxchecking for libapache2-mod-php4 now01:17
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renedoxnico_32: yes, it's installed01:18
=== scorpio2002 is it normal that ubuntu runs in runlevel 2?
nico_32can you paste the file /var/log/apache2/error.log at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:19
nico_32?01:19
chrissturmscorpio2002, yep01:19
renedoxnico_32: hang on01:19
scorpio2002chrissturm, sure? shouldn't it be runlevel 5?01:20
renedoxnico_32: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/69901:21
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nico_32renedox, you have many error ...01:21
scorpio2002chrissturm -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=265032#post26503201:21
renedoxnico_32: yeah...01:21
nico_32renedox, PHP Warning:  Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so' - /usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 001:22
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renedoxnico_32: how do I fix that?01:22
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nico_32verify if php4mysql is installed01:22
nico_32verify if php4-ysql is installed01:22
nico_32erf01:22
nico_32php4-mysql01:22
visorguys anybody here uses limewire?01:22
fortran01Has anyone tried playing GO-OPEN SOURCE in vlc (in mp4 format)?01:22
renedoxnico_32: ah.. no it's not installed01:23
nico_32renedox, :D01:23
scorpio2002nico_32, so it's normla that ubuntu starts in runlevel 2 ?_? - on the forum they said the contrary O_o01:24
renedoxnico_32: cool, thanks, I'll install that and see if it'll work :)01:24
nico_32scorpio2002, # Runlevels 2-5 are multi-user.01:24
scorpio2002nico_32, ok, so it's normal or not? :P01:24
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nico_32scorpio2002, it is normal01:25
scorpio2002ok01:25
scorpio2002:-)01:25
scorpio2002thx01:25
Tomcat_Most Debians start in level 2...01:25
Tomcat_Or rather... run in level 2.01:25
Tomcat_Only SuSE needs 5. :o01:25
nico_32scorpio2002, the default runlevel depend of distrib ...01:25
nico_32Tomcat_, old redhat also ...01:25
deFryskfedora.....01:26
feugan3333Hi all. Could anyone help me with static linking of a library with cc?01:26
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scorpio2002nico_32, ok... :p because it didn't notice that ubuntu was running at runlevel 2 untille todoy. And since I was working with the kernel trying to compile a new one, I thought I messed thing up01:27
scorpio2002i dint notice -> sorry ^^01:27
scorpio2002today :|01:27
nico_32de nada :D01:27
scorpio2002:P01:27
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mrhello everybody01:29
darkmatterhi01:29
Miichaelhello mister01:29
darkmatterhi mr01:30
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GouramiProblem: Right click, open with other application, select VLC in the list and then error "Could not add application the the application database"01:30
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delireanyone know the Ubuntu PPC channel? ubuntu-ppc seems a little errm quiet (1 person|bot)01:31
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fortran01Has anyone tried playing mp4 format in vlc with no sound?01:32
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queuetueHow do I set up a directory so that all files in it are created a+r by default?01:33
GouramiProblem: Right click, open with other application, select VLC in the list and then error "Could not add application the the application database"01:33
nico_32queuetue, search umask01:34
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|rockinnerd|it wont go away on the movie01:35
Gouramiwhere are santas helpers today ?01:36
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killapopGourami: apt-get update01:37
queuetuenico_32, I see the command, but no sensible explanation of how it is used.  How wuld I make all new files in a directory, /foo be a+wr ?01:37
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kakaltowhat is ubuntu's font?01:37
Gouramikillapop: what will that do, I am on a very slow internet connection ?01:38
kakaltoas used in logos01:38
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killapopGourami: hmmm01:38
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nico_32queuetue, oops for only a directory ?01:38
Sputn1kwhy fonts are so bad http://www.kompiuterija.lt/cgi-bin/kompiuterija/forumas/board_show.pl?bid=14  ?01:38
nico_32queuetue, chmod -R a+wr foo/01:38
queuetuenico_32, Yes, for all new files in a directory.01:38
Gouramikillapop: vlc works 100% if I open a file from vlc's menu01:38
queuetuenico_32, That will affect all existing files.  I want to set default permissions for all new files.01:39
funkyHatkillapop, wouldn't he need apt-cache update, then apt-get upgrade?01:39
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GouramiI am trying to open a file located on another machine01:39
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nico_32queuetue, i know how set default permission for all new file only for all directory ...01:39
nico_32queuetue, umask 66601:40
Flying-Penguinhow would I make a term command run when I log in? (the term command will open a program)01:40
queuetuenico_32, Ok, not what  was looking for. :)01:40
nico_32queuetue, set permission of all new file to a+wr01:40
nico_32but for only a directory, i don't know01:41
nico_32perhaps with acl ...01:41
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renedoxnico_32: I just downloaded php4-mysql and restarted apache01:41
renedoxstill not working01:41
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nico_32what is the result of "file /usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so"01:42
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renedoxcheng@renedox:~$ file /usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so01:43
renedox/usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped01:43
scaroohi ppl ! does any of you noticed a regression in the current breezy 's rhythmbox concerning the ipod handling, it doesn t work anymore here01:43
ztonzyhmm how to restart the gnome panels ?01:43
nico_32ztonzy, killall gnome-panels01:43
Burgundaviascaroo, there is a bug filed about it01:43
ztonzynico_32, and it retars ? thanks01:43
Gouraminick@ZATRM087:~$ apt-cache update01:44
GouramiE: Invalid operation update01:44
scarooBurgundavia, ok gonna check it01:44
nico_32Gourami, apt-get update01:44
renedoxnico_32:  /usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped01:44
nico_32renedox, heu01:44
ztonzynico_32, hmm it fixed itself...lol01:44
renedoxnico_32: heu?01:44
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Gouraminick@ZATRM087:~$ apt-get update01:44
GouramiE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)01:44
GouramiE: Unable to lock the list directory01:44
nico_32renedox, can you paste your apache2's error.log01:45
BurgundaviaGourami, close synaptic01:45
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nico_32Gourami, sudo apt-get update01:45
hondjeGourami: sudo in front of things when they complain about permissions01:45
bimberiGourami: you need sudo01:45
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scarooGourami, wheter synapticc is launched, wether your not lanching apt-get as root01:45
usuariocarloshola a todos01:45
renedoxnico_32: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/70001:46
Gouramiok have done with sudo, working now01:46
hondjeusuariocarlos: aqui hablamos ingles, pero hay #ubuntu-es01:46
darkmatterGourami:sudo apt-get update as user. ap-get update is root only01:46
felixdz2For some reason I am getting no sounds from gaim. yet my soundcard is working. Streamtuner works fine01:46
usuariocarloshellow01:47
hondje:)01:47
felixdz2Can anybody think why I get sound from cd's and streamtuner and not gaim.01:47
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scaroofelixdz2, is your esd launched01:47
scaroo?01:47
darkmatterfelixdz2: are you gaim sound enabled in the preferences?01:47
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Gouramifelixdz2: sound method = ESD01:47
felixdz2Not sure. I thought I was using alsa01:47
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xx_goth_forever_.....01:48
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J_Phi all01:49
Miichaelhi01:49
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darkmatterhi01:49
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bimberiGourami: opening files in vlc from nautilus - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44155 (last post in particular)01:49
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Miichaelwelcome autobot01:50
OptimusPrimethanks :)01:50
Miichaelbeen watching transformers on dvd last couple a days :)01:51
OptimusPrimehah01:51
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Miichaelme still a kid at heart01:51
OptimusPrimei dont like those new ones but the old ones is great01:52
Gouramichecking bimberi01:52
OptimusPrimeyea same here :)01:52
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Miichaelnever watched the new ones..just the ones i grew up watching01:54
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bennyyo how can i notch up this system volume01:56
Gouramibimberi: thanks I tried that, it now opens vlc but doesnt play the file requested01:56
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CapSoftlo folks01:57
CapSofti have a question...01:57
darkmatterello01:57
CapSoftwhen i do apt-get install mplayer-gui01:57
CapSoftit can't find the packets...01:57
CapSoftlo dark01:57
bimberiGourami: How about this then - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50524 ?01:57
darkmatterwhich packages can't you find?01:58
jasoncohenso, warty is missing security updates from firefox 1.0.4 and firefox 1.0.5 and it still says an upgrade is forthcoming. what's going on>01:58
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CapSoftmplayer-gui01:58
CapSoftamsn01:58
CapSoftmplayer-skins01:59
CapSoftmplayer-fonts01:59
binathe ubuntu CD comes with the basics (X and Gnome) right? and anything else I install using apt-get install ?01:59
CapSoftmplayerplug-in01:59
CapSoftyes bina01:59
jasoncohenCapSoft, there is no mpayer-gui01:59
Burgundaviabina, correct01:59
CapSoftplayer01:59
jasoncohenCapSoft, mplayer-386/586 includes the gui01:59
CapSoftmplayer-gui01:59
CapSofttypo01:59
jasoncohenCapSoft, and it's mozilla-mplayer - not mplayerplug-in01:59
CapSoftit can't find mplayer-38601:59
Burgundaviajasoncohen, can you join #ubuntu-doc please01:59
binaCapSoft, Burgundavia: woo. well, so long as my HDD reformats properly all should be well then :)01:59
jasoncohenCapSoft, amsn is in Universe01:59
CapSoftk i'll check right now01:59
binawhat fs ubuntu use? ext3?02:00
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Burgundaviabina, yes, by default02:00
darkmatterCapSoft: did you add extra repositories to sources.list and sudo apt-get update?02:00
binaBurgundavia: good, i think ill just leave it with that :)02:00
CapSoftwhen it updates it does not d/l it all02:00
CapSoftcan i send sources.conf?02:00
CapSoftto some 1?02:01
retro83Anyone know of a decent GTK app for disk management? (formatting etc)02:01
jasoncohenCapSoft, paste it in pastebin02:01
CapSoftfdisk02:01
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jasoncohenretro83, gparted02:01
CapSoftwhat is pastebin?02:01
CapSofti am a n00b sorry...02:01
jasoncohenfdisk is not gui CapSoft02:01
jasoncohenCapSoft, http://pastebin.ca/02:01
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CapSoftfdisk -p is enough ;) for me02:01
retro83jasoncohen: Thanks! :)02:01
CapSoftk jasoncohen02:02
darkmatterretro83:GParted02:02
CapSoftdamn.. forget where i could find the sources.list file02:02
Gouramibimberi: still no luck Couldn't display "smb://thumper/Movies/Madagascar.ts".02:02
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darkmatterCapSoft: /etc/apt/sources.list02:03
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CapSoftthanks again!02:03
darkmatterany time02:03
retro83thanks again, gparted is a really nice program :)02:03
TWDHi all02:04
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darkmatterhi02:04
TWDDoes anyone have any info on the state of gstreamer in breezy?02:04
CapSofthttp://pastebin.ca/1821902:04
BurgundaviaTWD, still 0.802:04
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CapSoftthat is it darkmatter02:04
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Gouramiif I play the movie .ts from the local machine it works 100% but from a remote location I get Couldn't display "smb://thumper/Movies/Madagascar.ts".02:05
darkmatterk, will take a look02:05
TWDI know that in hoary I finished by swapping it out for xine-lib to get totem to work, and I was wondering if it'd been resolved (IIRC esd was in part responsable)02:05
CapSoftthanks!02:05
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TWDthanks Burgundavia02:05
BurgundaviaTWD, 0.9 is unlikely to hit breezy (or gnome 2.12)02:06
kronzGourami: try mounting the share first02:06
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CapSoftis breezy stable then?02:06
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Gouramikronz how would I do that ?02:06
BurgundaviaCapSoft, not really02:06
CapSofti have hoary02:06
CapSoftk02:06
Burgundaviawait at least another month02:07
qt2so... yeah...02:07
darkmatterCapSoft: http://pastebin.ca/1822002:08
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Gouramikronz: it is mounted afaik, if I right click I get the option to unmount02:08
gore_hola02:08
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OptimusPrimeMiichael and dont you watch, a waste of time ;)02:11
qt2i have polypaudio and libesd-alsa0 installed, what do i need to grab from synaptic to reinstate the default ubuntu sound setup?02:11
bimberiGourami: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba under "Mounting a samba share"02:12
Miichaeldont plan too...remakes of cartoons are just horrid...like the new ninja turtles02:12
kronzGourami: type df in terminal and see if it pops up02:12
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Gouramino doesnt show on df, reading wiki now02:13
OptimusPrimeMiichael yea :)02:13
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CapSoftdarkmatter, i am looking at your file right now02:14
CapSoftwhat is the diference?02:14
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darkmatterCapSoft: k02:14
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Gouramiwhat a mission to mount :{02:16
nico_32erf02:16
Gouramibless you02:17
nico_32firefox alway crash when i try to extention any extension02:17
nico_320xb7f7cc1d in JS_GetClass () from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/libmozjs.so02:17
digitalfoxis there a utility to extract Stuffit (.sit) files under Linux?02:17
TWDnico_32 : what extensions are you suing?02:18
nico_32TWD: any02:18
TWDs/suing/useing/g02:18
nico_32only adblock02:18
TWDcould you give some examples?02:18
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TWDnico_32: have you tried removing ~/.mozilla or what ever it's called these days (note: don't do this if you're using thunderbird)02:19
nico_32TWD yes02:19
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nico_32i can only install 1 extension then any extension crash02:20
nico_32http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/70202:20
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TWDnico_32 have you installed any other mozilla packages either through synaptic or other?02:22
TWDAnd what version are you using atm?02:22
nico_32twd02:23
TWDLot's of questions I kinow, I'm just trying to narrow things down here02:23
nico_32mozilla-browser02:23
TWDThrough synaptic? or on it's own?02:23
felixdz2how do I restart esd?02:23
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chris^stableHi02:23
nico_32TWD, througt synaptic02:23
chris^stablei just upgraded my Breezy... now: -bash: startx: command not found02:24
chris^stableand this is with everything02:24
TWDnico_32: you might have some version sqew in you're libraries, could you please show me the output of ldd on firefox?02:24
chris^stablehow can i fix it?02:24
nico_32twd02:24
nico_32ldd firefox-bin ?02:24
TWDchris^stable: aparently X is broken in breezy atm02:25
TWDnico_32: yes02:25
chris^stable0o02:25
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CapSoftubuntu rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:25
TWDnico_32 or more like: ldd `which firefox-bin`02:25
TWDCapSoft: I completly agree02:25
nico_32TWD, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/70302:25
CapSoftdarkmatter, helped me out! thanks big time!02:26
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CapSoftdarkmatter.equals("1337") = true;02:26
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jzeHiya... When I try to listen to a radio with rhythmbox it says "there is no element present to handle the stream's mime type application/x-id3" what does this mean?02:26
TWDnico_32: does /usr/lib/mozilla_firefox (or a subdir thereof) contain a libmozjs.so?02:28
TWDif so, the problem is that you're using the mozilla-browser version with firefox02:28
nico_32/usr/lib/mozilla_firefox don't exist02:28
TWDsorry, I meant /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/02:29
CapSoftwhy does mplayer crash when i try to open *.wmv ?02:29
nico_32 $ ls  /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/ |grep mozjs02:29
nico_32libmozjs.so02:29
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TWDgot-ye: uninstall mozilla-browser and things should work02:30
TWDfingers crossed :-)02:30
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nico_32i can't uninstall mozilla-browser02:30
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nico_32apt want to uninstall02:30
nico_32  libgecko2.0-cil* monodevelop* mozilla-browser*02:30
Miichaelneed the w32codec i think02:30
TWDa more permant solution would be using LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox02:31
darkmatterCapSoft: did you install win32codecs.02:31
CapSoftwhy does mplayer crash when i try to open *.wmv ? some1 pls?02:31
CapSoftyes02:31
felixdz2Would the fact I am using xfce4 instead of gnome have anything to do with my sound trouble?02:31
CapSofti downloaded a lot of dlls02:31
TWDset the env var just before running firefox, and (in theory) it should load the right .so02:31
CapSoftand put them in the mplayer bin dir02:31
renedoxCapSoft: try vlc media player02:31
CapSoftif i remember correctly02:31
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Miichaelummmm02:32
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CapSoftvlc media player?02:32
darkmatterVideo Lan Client02:33
CapSoft:S02:33
renedoxa lot better than mplayer02:33
EquisHey all... networking question...02:33
CapSoftcan i apt-get it?02:33
EquisHow do I get my NIC to switch up to 100Mbps?02:33
CapSofti know that one02:33
CapSoftmii-tool --force=100baseT-FD02:33
darkmatterhomepage http://www.videolan.org/vlc/02:33
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CapSofti have to put mine to 10 base every login... LMAO02:34
CapSoftthanks dark02:34
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nico_32TWD, Firefox always crash ...02:34
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PCMANIAhey i need help02:34
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TWDnico_32: always or still?02:34
KB2000CapSoft: why the hell do you need to put it to 10 base?02:35
nico_32TWD, still02:35
PCMANIAcan someone download me the linux-wlan-ng package from the universe repository02:35
TWDnico_32: could you rerun the ldd with LD_PRELOAD set please too?02:35
PCMANIAi nee mij lan connection on linux ubuntu02:35
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PCMANIAnow i am using winxp to get it02:35
CapSofthttp://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html02:35
nico_32TWD,02:36
nico_32 $ ldd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin02:36
nico_32                libmozjs.so => /usr/lib/libmozjs.so (0xb7f48000)02:36
CapSoftKB2000, cuz my cable can't get faster...02:36
nico_32TWD,  rm  /usr/lib/libmozjs.s ?02:36
CapSoftuhm well the whole lan here is 1002:36
CapSoftnevermind...02:36
TWDnico_32: that could break a lot of stuff02:36
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TWDnico_32: what LD_PRELOAD command are you using02:36
CapSoftok guys i have the vlc stuff now02:37
TWDnico_32: try export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/02:37
nico_32export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox02:37
CapSoftand then?02:37
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PCMANIAcan someone download me the linux-wlan-ng package from the universe repository02:37
TWDnico_32: bizzar02:37
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nico_32TWD,02:37
nico_32cut: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/: cannot read file data: Error 2102:37
nico_32free: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/: cannot read file data: Error 2102:37
nico_32grep: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/: cannot read file data: Error 2102:37
nico_32cut: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/: cannot read file data: Error 2102:37
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EquisCapSoft:  You have a link you can point me to?  mii-tool didn't work for me02:37
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PCMANIAsend it to me plzzzzzzzz I need it for my wl-012 usb lan card02:38
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jeff_vlc crashes every time I try to run a .wmv on it02:38
PCMANIAi am a noob02:38
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PCMANIAi tried to install my wl-012 usb adabter02:38
TWDnico_32: try renameing the file in usr/lib just to see if things work better then.02:38
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LuNaTiK^GuYanybody knows about a matrix style gdm theme?02:39
darkmatterCapSoft: cd to the directory you dld vlc to. dpkg -i <paackage-name>.deb02:39
PCMANIAbut they said to me i need the package from the universe repository, but i have no internet on linux so I cann't download it02:39
CapSoftdarkmatter i have it trhough apt-get02:39
CapSoftit runs02:39
CapSoftbut no video...02:39
CapSoftjust the sound02:39
CapSoftof the wmv02:39
PCMANIAI have ubuntu installed02:39
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darkmatternot sure. don't use vlc02:40
PCMANIAHELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP02:40
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jeff_CapSoft : I get the same thing with mplayer - sound, but no video with .wmv files02:40
PCMANIAHELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP02:40
CapSofti did : apt-get install vlc libdvdcss202:40
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CapSoftjeff_ me too02:40
Miichaelyou sure you apt-get install w32codec?02:40
CapSoftalso have the same prob. with mplayer02:40
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CapSoftand vlc now too02:40
CapSoftlmao02:40
raven3x7i think its codecs02:40
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TWDnico_32: otherwise try LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/libmozjs.so02:41
CapSoftcould not find packet: w32codec02:41
jeff_w32codecs02:41
Miichaeltry w32codecs02:41
jeff_I'm installing it right now02:41
darkmatterwhat vid, CapSoft?. could be the codecs. gotta link02:41
binahi all, im in Ubuntu woo.  How do I change the configuration of my monitor, itll only let me use 60Hz but it can do up to 85 at this resolution02:41
CapSofti forgot the S02:41
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jeff_it's a fat bitch02:42
CapSoftone moment pls02:42
nico_32TWD, Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.02:42
nico_32[Switching to Thread -1218600288 (LWP 26472)] 02:42
nico_320xb7f7cc1d in JS_GetClass () from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/libmozjs.so02:42
darkmatterbrb02:42
CapSoftk02:42
CapSoftd/l codecs atm...02:42
CapSoft13.2 MB02:42
raven3x7bina fro system>references>screen resolution02:43
CapSoftonly 40 kb/s pffff02:43
CapSoftmy line can hold 500 ~ 600 kb/s02:43
TWDnico_32: sorry, there I'm stumped, you could try removing and reinstalling the firefox package, but that's all I can suggest.02:43
TWDsorry :-(02:43
jangabina: find out your monitor specs and write them into /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:43
binaraven3x7 itll only let me to 60Hz02:43
binajanga: cool, thanks02:43
Miichael500 kb/s pfff i am getting a 15Mbps connection shortly :)02:43
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CapSoftwww.lee-online.nl/LCX.wmv02:44
CapSoftdarkmatter =--> www.lee-online.nl/LCX.wmv02:44
kronzbina: easy way to do it - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then choose medium or advanced monitor settings02:44
CapSoftbut i think it is.. .codecs02:44
CapSoftd/l some atm02:44
CapSoftbrb02:44
binakronz: thanks, ill try02:44
|rockinnerd|btw a bomb has gone off in the london underground02:44
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CapSoftagain? |rockinnerd|02:45
|rockinnerd|yep02:45
CapSoftdamn...02:45
jeff_I did apt-get install w32codecs, but vlc still crashes02:45
ajhobbs3 stations evacuated evidentally.02:45
raven3x7ir there a music reencoder available for linux?02:45
darkmatterdling now.02:45
|rockinnerd|raven3x7, audacity02:45
nico_32jeff_, vlc don't use w32codecs02:45
CapSoftk i am at 77% from the codecs02:45
CapSoftmplayer?02:45
binakronz: mines a Packard Bell 7480 monitor, you know what driver that would use? I cant see any Packard bell option on there :)02:46
raven3x7|rockinnerd|, audacity can reencode mp3s?02:46
|rockinnerd|well, if it cant get LAME02:46
|rockinnerd|oops nvm02:46
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|rockinnerd|tht you said 'recorder'02:46
darkmatterCapSoft: you install libxine1?02:46
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raven3x7|rockinnerd|, no. i want to reencode some files at a lower bitright to put them in my mp3 player02:47
raven3x7bitrate02:47
|rockinnerd|hmm try lame02:47
CapSoftdunno darkmatter, should i?02:47
kronzbina: its probably asking you for your gfx driver02:47
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Miichaeli have always used this site to know which files i need to get running dvds/video files they use rpms but it has the names http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/02:48
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CapSoftthanks it runs02:48
CapSoftit was the codec thingy02:48
CapSoftand dark i don't have libxinel02:48
CapSoftwww.lee-online.nl/LCX.wmv check the vid awesome!02:48
raven3x7bina is your graphics card nvidia or ati?02:48
darkmatterk02:48
binakronz: oh right02:48
binaraven3z7: nvidia02:48
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binaGForce 402:49
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kronzjust press enter through about 10 pages till it asks you about your monitor02:49
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lerojis it possible to have both KDE and gnome on the same distro?02:50
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raven3x7bina use nv if you dont want 3d. if you want 3d apt-get nvidia-glx and use nvidia as your driver.02:50
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ajhobbsleroj: Yes.  You can choose which to run from the session choice of the login manager.02:50
lerojok02:51
lerojhow would i get hold of KDe then?02:51
binaranven3x7: thanks02:51
guillaumehapt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:51
lerojthank you02:51
guillaumehor choose kubuntu-desktop in synaptic02:51
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Miichaeland in 3d02:52
RabidDogyep02:52
darkmattersmurfs? you're joking?02:52
Miichaelnope02:52
jeff_CapSoft : any luck yet?02:52
CapSoftit runs02:53
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CapSoft* |rockinnerd| heeft verlaten ("Leaving")02:53
CapSoftCapSoft it was the codec thingy02:53
CapSoftCapSoft and dark i don't have libxinel02:53
CapSoftCapSoft www.lee-online.nl/LCX.wmv check the vid awesome!02:53
CapSoftas i said ;)02:53
CapSofti just needed the w32codecs02:53
Miichaelthats what i thought :)02:54
CapSoftcheck the vid02:54
CapSoftit rox02:54
lerojwhat is it?02:54
CapSoftGTA02:54
lerojbah02:54
CapSoftlol02:54
CapSoftit's a stunt movie02:54
CapSoftfrom some guy on a bike02:54
qt2something just happened in a london subway...02:55
lerojyes02:55
darkmatternother attack?02:55
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CapSoftyes02:55
lerojthey think it was a mailbomb02:55
KB2000really?02:55
leroji think02:55
lerojyeah02:55
tazoh ok..02:56
snowblinknail02:56
lerojhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4703777.stm02:56
tazouch02:56
lerojah02:56
CapSoft|rockinnerd| btw a bomb has gone off in the london underground02:56
darkmattersucks02:56
snowblinkno casualities have been reported02:56
CapSoft3 stations evacuated...02:56
Amaranthmail? must have been a typo02:56
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CapSoftrock said it before...02:56
Amaranthone website is saying 'nail'02:56
CapSoftNail02:56
CapSoftlol02:57
CapSoftuhm no lol...02:57
Amaranthi know, i'm saying that's a typo02:57
mumblesbummer again02:57
darkmatterbad lol02:57
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taz2 explotions says the swedish newspaper02:57
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qt2http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2005/07/21/three_london_subway_stations_evacuated/ <- about the london subway.02:57
nalioth_wrknAmaranth: you giving out hats today?02:57
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lerojtaz, wich swedish newspaper?02:58
snowblink3 stations + 1 bus02:58
pefhello !02:58
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binano luck, still isnt doing anything :'( stuck at 60Hz and getting a headache :P02:58
CarinArrdoes anyone know where you set the default cursor gdm uses?02:58
darkmatterhi pef02:58
CapSoftCarinArr, isn't it part of the theme?02:59
CarinArrmight be02:59
CapSofticons and such??02:59
skinisterHello everyone.... i have a  <GPG error: > any tips guys???02:59
CarinArri have no clue;)02:59
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lerojok02:59
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darkmatterCarinArr: install gcursor through synaptic. then System->Preferences03:00
scorpio2002Hi there! I can't understand why each time I open Thunderbird it asks me to choose a profile. I only have the default profile and I even checked "Don't aks at startup".03:00
qt2*watching the news* seems to be just like last time, three subways and a bus... or so says CBS...03:01
CarinArri only really want to know what cursor it uses so i can set that to be the default x one as well03:01
tazok.. just one bomb seems like...03:01
snowblinkqt2, less serious than last time. No reported casualties03:01
mumblesglad i went up to london yesterday03:01
CarinArrthey were dummy bombs03:01
CarinArrjust detonators03:01
snowblinkCarinArr, that just means they didn't go off03:01
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CarinArrhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4703777.stm03:02
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qt2snowblink, i know its less serious, but just oting.03:02
CapSoftcan i install another window manager on ubuntu?03:02
CapSoftlike fluxbox?03:02
CapSoftor kde?03:02
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Kyralyes03:02
Kyralsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for kde03:03
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CarinArrcapsoft, just install then add a .desktop for it in gdm.. (for fluxbox)03:03
CapSoftand enlightment?03:03
Kyralsudo apt-get install fluxbox for fluxbox03:03
CapSoftlol03:03
CapSoftthat easy?03:03
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CapSoftwicked...03:03
Kyralyes03:03
CapSoftubuntu rox03:03
darkmatterCarinArr: /usr/share/icons/Human/cursors is the directory03:03
funkyHat:( firefox update (today's) broke my firefox03:04
Kyralit even adds the GDM/KDM entries03:04
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CarinArrcool thanks darkmatter03:04
EquisCapSoft:  I figured out my networking slowness...03:04
darkmatterno prob03:04
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CapSoftEquis, tell us03:04
Equisturns out I was using an *old* card.03:04
CapSoftold pci card?03:04
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Equis10Mbps was tops03:04
CarinArroh that's what i meant to ask as well..03:04
Equislol03:04
CapSoftso u had to mii-tool it to 10?03:04
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mumblesone injory ant warren street03:05
CapSoftor default @ 10 mbit/s ?03:05
EquisNo, I swapped it out for the other one (that I pulled out 'cause it didn't need two)03:05
CarinArri've been running ubuntu on this machine for a few weeks and it's been perfectly fine. now all of a sudden it times out setting up the network03:05
CapSofthaha03:05
CapSoftnice!03:05
CapSoft:)03:05
CarinArrhowever, as soon as it's all started i can go and deactivate/activate eth0 and it works perfectly fine03:05
qt2snowblink, CarinArr, a detonator is a bomb, jsut a small one, in a normal bomb it's main pourpose is to start a chain reaction using it's small explosion.03:05
EquisSo, thanks for your help, though03:05
CapSoftnice03:05
CapSoftcan i mii-tool --force my eth0 to 10baseT-FD at boot time?03:06
qt2mumbles, source?03:06
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mumbleslondon based radio statio xfm03:06
snowblinkqt2, exactly. The main bombs didn't go off. Doesn't mean they weren't real. Just means they cocked up.03:06
CarinArrall of them?03:06
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darkmattergood thing they never went off. that would have been a hell of a mess03:07
qt2mumbles, xm you mean?03:07
CapSoftcan i mii-tool --force my eth0 to 10baseT-FD at boot time? some1 any idea?03:07
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qt2snowblink, four failed bombs? seems rather unlikely...03:07
CapSofti only have to do these two lines at startup03:07
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mumbleswww.xfm.co.uk03:08
CapSoftsudo mii-tool --force=10baseT-FD03:08
CapSoftand sudo ifup --force eth003:08
CapSoftcan i do them at boottime?03:08
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kbrooksyes.03:08
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snowblinkqt2: not if they were all hooked up by someone who didn't know how...03:08
CapSofthow? lol03:09
darkmatteror had faulty detonators03:09
funkyHatguys, wtf is up with the latest ubuntu firefox release? anyone else getting problems?03:09
CarinArrwhat sort of problems03:09
mumbleswindows have been blown out of the buss03:09
darkmatterwhat problems03:09
Kyralthe verson number is wrong03:09
Kyralchange it in about::config03:09
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BurgundaviafunkyHat, did you just update with the security fixes?03:10
funkyHatrandomly crashing, it broke the first time i ran it (due to loads of extensions no doubt, but it's also crashing on a clean profile)03:10
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funkyHatBurgundavia, i updated when it showed up in ubuntu update manager03:10
darkmattergeneral.useragent.vendorSub change from 1.0 to 1.0.403:10
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qt2snowblink, and whoever else wants information.. ##london seems very updated on it.03:11
BurgundaviafunkyHat, ok. I have heard other people reporting the same issues03:11
funkyHatthat would be great, if i could get to about:config without launching the browser ;)03:11
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darkmatterlol03:11
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darkmatterhave you tried purging the config and reinstalling03:12
pittifunkyHat: odd, it's running fine here for three days...03:12
funkyHatthe update was this morning...03:12
pittifunkyHat: however, I have a similar random crash on tbird (which I didn't yet relase), I'm investigating03:12
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CapSoftsome one know how to auto do some commands while booting??03:13
funkyHatwasn't it?03:13
pittifunkyHat: yes, but it's on my disk for three days (not completely patched, though)03:13
LuNaTiK^GuYhow can i install a new bootsplash screen?03:13
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CapSofttheme i guess?03:13
CapSoftLuNaTiK^GuY,03:13
pittifunkyHat: I wanted to test the complete update for at least a day03:13
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LuNaTiK^GuYnot a whole theme no03:13
darkmatterbootsplash with splashy03:13
LuNaTiK^GuYi have a png03:13
CapSofta part from it03:13
pittifunkyHat: lemme figure out that tbird crash, I have reasons to assume that it is exactly the same cause; however, I can't reproduce the ffox crash03:14
darkmatterhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4170903:14
kev_so i just upgraded firefox to 1.0.2-0ubuntu5.4 and now it segfaults whenever i try to start it. should i be downgrading or is there a better fix?03:14
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funkyHatit's most likely to do with SessionSaver (possibly also only a remote save/restore issue) but i can't reproduce the original error03:15
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kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: use splashy dude03:15
darkmatterjust follow the bootsplash instructions. use 0.1.3svn2. 0.1.5 has dependancy issues03:15
LuNaTiK^GuYslpashy?03:15
pittikev_: see above, downgrade for now if you have severe problems; does temporarily moving away ~/.mozilla help?03:15
darkmatterhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4170903:15
LuNaTiK^GuYok darkmatter03:16
funkyHatpitti, is it a new version of tbird too? as i'm not getting any issues with that at all03:16
darkmattereasiest way (aside from patching the kernel)03:16
pittifunkyHat: I'm still preparing it03:16
kev_pitti: moving away .mozilla lets it load now. is it a problem related to extensions?03:16
pittifunkyHat: it's a PITA, there are so many and so big patches, I already worked on it for two days03:17
CapSofti love that firefox is default in ubuntu!03:17
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pittikev_: no idea, I tested it with flash and adblock03:17
LuNaTiK^GuYnow i want a MAC OS taskbar .....with gDesklets...how do i install it03:17
LuNaTiK^GuY?03:17
pittikev_: could you try to isolate the module that causes problems? maybe I can reproduce it then03:17
Antinomycan anyone help me with a dual boot partitioning question?03:17
LuNaTiK^GuYie. ialreayd have g Deskelts03:17
funkyHatAntinomy, just ask :)03:18
rommeris it possible to setup a dns server with 2 web servers serving over the internet without having a domain name?03:18
darkmatterAntinomy: fire away03:18
nico_32pitti, firefox crash :03:18
CapSoftis gdesklets like superkaramba????????????03:18
nico_32Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.03:18
nico_32[Switching to Thread -1218600288 (LWP 24436)] 03:18
nico_320xb7f7cc1d in JS_GetClass () from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/libmozjs.so03:18
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kbrooksAntinomy: ask03:19
Antinomy ok! thanks. Specs: AMD Athlon, running win XP. 60 GB HD.03:19
darkmatteryes, gdesklets is like superkaramba03:19
AntinomyHere's what I'm trying to do:03:19
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Antinomy1 part for XP, one part for Ubuntu, 1 for fat32 file (share)03:19
CapSoftkewl03:19
topyligrr. how hard can it be to convert evolution's vcards to csv? can't find any scripts on the net03:19
AntinomyBut I'm scared.03:19
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kbrooksAntinomy: grub03:20
kbrooksAntinomy: grub \03:20
desrtAntinomy; there are ext2fs drivers for windows03:20
pittinico_32: seems to be the same03:20
kbrooksAntinomy: Use GRUB.03:20
kev_pitti: it apears to be the Extensions.rdf that causes it to segfault03:20
LuNaTiK^GuYyes CapSoft03:20
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AntinomyI'm at the moment of truth - asking me which one I want to repartition, and I'm a little nervous.03:20
nico_32pitti, i close an onglet and firefox crash03:20
nico_32...03:20
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Antinomydo I pick IDE1 or #1 Primary? DOes it matter?03:21
pittinico_32: what's an "onglet"?03:21
kbrooksAntinomy: which one? list the partitions there please03:21
CapSoftok i have the gdesklets03:21
desrtAntinomy; read this: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm03:21
binalo, how do I find out what audio device my Comp is using.  Ive got a feeling its using the onboard one when it should be using the SB Live03:21
VincentMXhow do i change my computer name?03:21
CapSoftbut where do you get the appz for it?03:21
CapSoftbina,  lsof /dev/dsp03:21
AntinomyWait - heres the advice I'm following: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning03:21
rommerVincentMX: /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname03:21
LuNaTiK^GuYCapSoft, http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php03:21
CapSoftbrb03:21
darkmatterhttp://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/03:22
LuNaTiK^GuYi just found them now :)03:22
CapSoftthanks LuNaTiK^GuY03:22
topyliAntinomy: what could happen? you do have your backups don't you? don't you? :)03:22
nico_32pitti, onglet = Tabbed Browsing03:22
kbrooks"you will need to make some free space on your hard drive for it"03:22
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CapSoft|brbbrb03:22
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binaCapSoft|brb: that just outputs esd     7325 harry    5w   CHR   14,3      6885 /dev/dsp.  u know what that means?03:22
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Antinomytopyli: Yes, of course :)03:22
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rommeris it possible to setup a dns server with 2 web servers serving over the internet without having a domain name?03:23
Antinomyactually, can someone go into a IM with me and walk me through? I can't keep track with all this scrolling03:23
derdahow called the package for java runtime for firefox?03:23
TWDnico_32: are you from france too?03:23
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nico_32yes03:23
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TWDRoyan here03:23
kbrooksAntinomy: i doubt that is encouraged03:23
jcapoteanyone here on centrino with hoary?03:23
Antinomykbrooks: what?03:23
wm_kumikoDamn, I wanted to try breezy today and see if I can get my laptop working...03:24
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wm_kumikosound and suspend aren't working.03:24
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jeranOkay! I got all my problems fixed this time03:24
AntinomyOk: which partition should I resize?03:24
tritiumderda, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java03:24
jeranNow, Last night someone gave me a link to see a list of things I could find on the respositories.. Does anyone have that?03:25
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darkmatterwm_kumiko: they've actually fixed xorg?03:25
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tritiumjeran, was it packages.ubuntu.com ?03:25
mumblesopss pulled out wrong powerlead03:25
Antinomyshould I resize IDE1 master (hda)? or #1 primary?03:25
jerantritium: I believe so, thank you03:25
wm_kumikodarkmatter, not according to the topic.03:25
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CapSoftback03:25
wm_kumikodarkmatter, Have they?03:25
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darkmatterdamn, was hoping to update.03:25
jcapoteI was wondering if cpu scaling was supported in ubuntu03:25
CapSoftbina, that means that that proces uses ur sound03:26
desrt_woh03:26
desrt_hardcore.03:26
AntinomyDoes anyone know which partition I should resize? dont want to make a stupid choice here03:26
darkmatterguess they haven't. still broken03:26
desrt_it's good to know that i'm always only 3 clicks away from #ubuntu off of a default install :)03:26
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wm_kumikoI think my keyboard is broken shift+` is still `.03:26
userusermy ethernet card and power management features work with 2.6.8 but not 2.6.10 (both from ubuntu packages). why might that be?03:26
funkyHatAntinomy, what are the names of the partitions, and their sizes?03:26
kev_pitti: i tried removing the extension defs from Extensions.rdf one by one and until i removed them all, firefox would crash when i loaded the Extensions dialog.03:26
wm_kumikodoes anyone know how to map the tilde character to some key?03:26
CapSoft~03:27
CapSoftuhm...03:27
CapSoftwith shift...03:27
AntinomyfunkyHat: first - IDE1 master (hda) 60.0 GB03:27
CapSoftthe key next to the 1...03:27
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CapSoftfor my keyboard...03:27
CapSoftwhy?03:27
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AntinomyfunkyHat: second - #1 primary 60 GB03:27
useruserand how do i tell grub to boot the 2.6.8 kernel by default?03:27
AntinomyI imagine I should resize the second.03:27
topyliCapSoft: mine is next to the  :)03:27
kbrooksAntinomy: the first one is your hard drive03:27
funkyHatAntinomy, the first one is the drive, not a partition, you should resize the second one03:28
CapSoftlol03:28
wm_kumikoCapSoft, Yeah, I know.... the problem is that it doesn't work.03:28
CapSoft~!@#03:28
tritiumuseruser, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, and change the default03:28
darkmattersome keys are broken in breezy. i don't think his tilde works03:28
CapSoftswith keyboard layout03:28
kbrooksAntinomy: press enter on it, and you can expunge your partition table03:28
tritiumuseruser, then, run sudo update-grub03:28
AntinomyfunkyHat: got it, I thought so, but wasnt sure and the dsocumentation wasnt clear03:28
kbrooksAntinomy: don't do that.03:28
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topyliwm_kumiko: it's a "dead" key. press the tilde, then space03:28
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rommeris it possible to setup a dns server with 2 web servers serving over the internet without having a domain name?03:28
Antinomykbrooks: dont do what?03:28
wm_kumikotopyli, ?03:29
wm_kumikowhen I press shift+` I immediately get `03:29
ajhobbsrommer -> What are you talking about?03:29
topyliwm_kumiko: that's how my keyboard works, your tilde key might be similar03:29
kbrooksAntinomy: Don't expunge your partition table. Resize the partition.03:29
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Antinomyok thanks guys, brb03:29
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userusertritium: thanks. where is menu.lst documented?03:30
ajhobbsrommer -> Without a domain name, or having someone host a name, you can still serve web pages, just have to use ip addy.  Or you could use a dynamic dns service.03:30
funkyHatkbrooks, that's what he was going to do... i think..03:30
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kbrooksfunkyHat: What?03:30
weiershi ... I just installed Openoffice.org1.9.188 by turning rpm's into .debs etc. I also uninstalled my previous versions of OOO. I would like to put the new installation into my menu, and if possible let it display the good-looking icons. How do I do that?03:30
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AntinomyfunkyHat: what size partitions should i build for the XP OS part and the Ubuntu part? Is 10 GB sufficient?03:30
binaCapSoft: oh right, ok03:30
kbrooksAntinomy: uh no...hang on03:31
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Antinomykbrooks: ok03:31
kbrooksAntinomy: install XP first03:31
Antinomynot doing anything yet03:31
AntinomyXP is on there right now03:31
kbrookshow much does XP take up?03:31
funkyHatkbrooks, it is possible to resize ntfs partitions safely isn't it?03:31
AntinomyEverything? or just my windows folder?03:31
kbrooksfunkyHat: yes but not with errors03:32
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kbrooksfunkyHat: also, he might be using FAT32 for example03:32
kbrooksdang :|03:32
funkyHatso Antinomy needs to check for errors on XP before starting his ubuntu install03:32
kbrooksfunkyHat: right, and that's just a precaution for fat32 too.03:33
AntinomyfunkyHat: ok, I got XP up and running03:33
Antinomykbrooks: I got XP up03:33
kbrooksfunkyHat: my computer -> right click on C: -> properties03:34
kbrookser03:34
kbrooksAntinomy: *03:34
Antinomylol03:34
Antinomygot it03:34
funkyHathehehe03:34
kbrooksfunkyHat: typo, sorry03:34
Antinomygrr it's huge.03:34
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kbrooksAntinomy: what tabs do you get?03:34
funkyHatyeah, i was just gonna say i think that's what it is...03:34
Antinomygeneral, tools, hardware03:34
Antinomyetc03:34
funkyHatgo to tools03:34
kev_pitti: so i decided to try and reinstall all the extensions i had in the past. and one extension routinely buggers firefox so it always segfaults: html validator (https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=249)03:34
Antinomyk03:34
kbrooksthen check the disk03:35
Antinomyerror-check?03:35
kbrooksyup03:35
Antinomymay i ask a question?03:35
pittikev_: ok, I try this one03:35
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kbrooksask03:35
binasudo apt-get install glib doesnt worrk. anyone know why? If I know that a name contains somethiing can I install it by doing apt-get.... *bleh* ?03:35
kev_pitti: it segfaults after it installs. then restart firefox and try to view the extensions dialog03:35
Antinomykbrooks: I just remembered that I need to delete a whole butt load of files.  should I do that first or errorcheck first?03:35
funkyHatbina, glib isn't the name of a package03:35
ajhobbsbina -> You need apt-get install glib1.2 or glib2 there are two versions available.03:36
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kbrooksAntinomy: you should do that to free up space, yes.03:36
funkyHatAntinomy, i would suggest the error check is the last thing you do before starting to install ubuntu03:36
weiersHi... does ubuntu provide a gui to edit the menu? I would like to add entries for my new open office install.03:36
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AntinomyfunkyHat: ok03:37
Antinomykbrooks: ok03:37
tritiumbina, it's always good to do a search so you know which packages to install.  You can search with synaptic, or apt-cache search <searchterm>03:37
ajhobbsbina -> You can do "apt-cache search <name> | less" to find the exact name you need to use with apt-get.03:37
kbrooksbina: you can't do * before the name, but you can after03:37
ajhobbsaptitude is also a decent command-line tool much like synaptic.03:37
topyliweiers: there's no menu editor by default. install smeg03:37
Antinomykbrooks: funkyHat: should I free up as much space as possible since the files will be shared in the fat32 middle partition?03:37
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weiersthanks topyli03:38
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darkmatterweiers: sudo apt-get install smeg03:38
wm_kumikohmm, I wonder if I can map alt+` to tilde03:38
kbrooksAntinomy: yes, but dont delete anything you NEED03:38
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Amaranthdarkmatter: only in breezy or with backports03:39
Antinomykbrooks: you mean system stuff?03:39
kbrooksAntinomy: that, and other stuff you condiser important03:39
binatritium ajhobbs kbrooks: Thanks. People in this chan are all v helpful03:39
kbrooksbina: we try ;)03:39
funkyHatAntinomy, you mustn't delete any system stuff at all, but don't delete any personal files that you need either03:39
tritiumthanks, bina :)03:39
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darkmatterAmaranth:yes, so he should enable backports03:40
ajhobbsNew to ubuntu myself.  =)  Answering helps me learn parts better.03:40
kbrooksdarkmatter: NO03:40
pittikev_: ok, it segfaults after installation, but after a restart it works fine and the Extensions dialog works03:40
kbrooks!backports03:40
ubotuwell, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org03:40
kev_pitti: hmmm03:40
darkmatterk. me bad03:40
kbrookshuh? who changed that?03:40
LuNaTiK^GuYwhen installing ubuntu i set my max resolution to 1280x1024....so even tho my desktop is set at 1024x768...the login manager is always at 1280x1024....how can i change that?03:40
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funkyHatkbrooks, i heard that backports is now official... ?03:41
kbrooksdarkmatter: backports are not recommended for daily use03:41
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^rob^hi03:41
pittikev_: uninstalling crashes, to03:41
pittio03:41
jeranWhere can I get anti-virus software for Linux?03:41
kbrooksfunkyHat: vaguely.03:41
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topylifunkyHat: not official, but not as much of a sin as before03:41
LuNaTiK^GuYjeran, do u need it ;D03:41
pittikev_: alright, I'll look into it. But lemme fix the tbird crasher first (and release tbird and mozilla)03:41
tritiumkbrooks, it was pointed out to me last night that backports are official now, apparently03:41
AntinomyfunkyHat: Here's the deal, I got about 27 gigs of music on XP. I have it all backed up. I should delete it.03:41
^rob^does anyone know if industrial theme for kde package exist for ubuntu?03:41
kev_pitti: thanks for your help!03:41
Burgundaviajeran, there are no current linux viruses in the wild and few have ever existed03:41
AntinomyfunkyHat: right?03:41
pittikev_: thanks for your's, too03:41
darkmatterLuNaTiK^GuY: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:41
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funkyHatas long as you're sure the backup isn't going to fail ;)03:42
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ben_underscorejeran, you can use clamav, which is a free anti virus tool03:42
Antinomylol well....03:42
AntinomyfunkyHat: If i think that way, I'll never install ubuntu03:42
jeranOh Okay, I'm just coming from Windows XP and I know you HAVE to have it for Windows..03:42
ajhobbsjeran -> Clamav is actually pretty darned good.03:42
kev_pitti: one last question :) how can i copy the saved pwds from my old profile of firefox to this new one?03:42
kbrooksjeran: have what?03:42
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ajhobbsOf course, mostly to clean muck coming from windows boxes.03:42
ben_underscorejeran, if you get a virus on linux from windows, try running it using wine. it is really funny03:43
funkyHattopyli, i'll stick with just universe and multiverse anyway, i'd like my system to work :D03:43
jerankbrooks: Anti-Virus software03:43
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tritiumkbrooks, this is what hondje pointed out to me: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4858303:43
pittikev_: no idea, sorry03:43
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jeranben_underscore what will it do?03:43
^rob^does ne1 have industrial theme in kde?03:43
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funkyHatAntinomy, how much free space do you have on your C:\ drive?03:43
topylijeran: are you running a mail or file server for windows clients?03:43
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jerannopd03:44
ben_underscorejeran, nothing really. it just tries to do stuff that won't work. but its funny trying to watch it work03:44
jerannope*03:44
AntinomyfunkyHat: checking...ned to delete my music first03:44
Antinomyneed03:44
Belutzhai is there an update to firefox and thunderbird 1.0.6 in ubuntu?03:44
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BurgundaviaBelutz, coming for tbird, already there for ff03:44
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topylijeran: then you don't need it03:45
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funkyHatBelutz, 1.0.2 has all the security patches for 1.0.603:45
BelutzBurgundavia: can i update throught synaptic?03:45
kev_pitti: if only i had searched google first. see http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/faq#mozpass03:45
jeranokay, thanks03:45
BurgundaviaBelutz, yes03:45
Antinomyok03:45
funkyHatBelutz, but it appears to be broken at the moment ;)03:45
tritiumBurgundavia, 1.0.6?  The changelog for the latest firefox shows the fixes from 1.0.503:45
topylijeran: http://lwfug.org/~abartoli/virus-writing-HOWTO/_html/03:45
vaderwhat is the URL for building menu lists for iceWM or xfce4?03:45
BelutzfunkyHat: really? but how do i install more extensions and themes?03:45
onkarshindefunkyHat: How come 1.0.2 has all the patches in 1.0.6?03:46
AntinomyfunkyHat: 60 GB drive.  Used 16.2 GB; free 39.603:46
Burgundaviatritium, .6 is merely a "don't break extensions" release03:46
BelutzBurgundavia: i still see ff 1.0.2 in synaptic03:46
BurgundaviaBelutz, the security fixes are backported03:46
Antinomykbrooks: 60 GB drive.  Used 16.2 GB; free 39.603:46
Belutzic03:46
tritiumBelutz, read /usr/share/doc/mozilla-firefox/changelog.Debian.gz03:46
funkyHatonkarshinde, only the ubnutu version does, they are backported rather than upgrading the whole program03:46
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tritiumthanks, Burgundavia03:46
Burgundaviatritium, np03:47
kbrooksonkarshinde: they are backported because hoary and warty are frozen.....03:47
Burgundaviaonkarshinde, no new versions03:47
kbrooksonkarshinde: and the packagers cant introduce new versions03:47
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funkyHatBelutz, there are instructions on the page that comes up when you try to access update.mozilla.org through firefox03:47
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kbrooksonkarshinde: only security updates03:48
AntinomyfunkyHat: 60 GB drive.  Used 16.2 GB; free 39.603:48
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kev_pitti: more problems. the "web developer" extension causes firefox to crash any time i close a tab!03:49
kev_pitti: so i'm going to have to downgrade to an older version of firefox. can you point me to a url with instructiosn?03:49
onkarshindefunkyHat: kbrooks: Burgundavia: I thought Fixes from 1.0.4 were already backported to 1.0.2. Is this 1.0.2 is updated again?03:49
Burgundaviaonkarshinde, yes03:50
pittikev_: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox/hoary should work03:50
onkarshindeOr are we talking about TB and not FF?03:50
funkyHatAntinomy, is there much else you can get rid of? it's gonna be a bit tight if you want to put 26GB of music on a 3rd partition03:50
Burgundaviaonkarshinde, both03:50
Burgundaviaonkarshinde, FF has already been done03:50
BurgundaviaTB is coming03:50
BelutzBurgundavia: should i really upgrade from backports?03:50
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BurgundaviaBelutz, not necessary03:50
pittionkarshinde: yes, for 1.0.5 changes (ffox)03:50
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BelutzBurgundavia: so i don't have to upgrade at all?03:51
pittikev_: the hoary version would expose you to more problems, use the previous version03:51
AntinomyfunkyHat: I can just leave the music on my external 120 GB and use ipod to back it up.03:51
BurgundaviaBelutz, wait, the security updates will come03:51
kev_pitti: how do i go to the previous version?03:51
pittikev_: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3_i386.deb03:51
kev_pitti: thanks!03:51
funkyHatAntinomy, ok then03:51
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BelutzBurgundavia: ok, maybe i'll just have to be patience and wait :)03:52
pittikev_: download that and http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3_i386.deb03:52
pittikev_: and then do "sudo dpkg -i mozilla*.deb"03:52
AntinomyfunkyHat: Am I crazy to do this?03:52
funkyHatAntinomy, no, that's where my music would stay if i had an external drive03:52
jeranI installed a program and it doesn't show up in my application list...03:52
AntinomyfunkyHat: ok. I just want to switch to Linux. I'm really fed up with windows!03:53
funkyHatAntinomy, are you getting rid of windows XP all together then?03:53
AntinomyfunkyHat: If the questions I'm asking indicate that this is out of my league technincally, I'll stop03:53
kev_pitti: phew! it works again. thanks so much03:53
kbrooksAntinomy: why are you fed up with windows?03:53
AntinomyfunkyHat: No, this is like a transitionary period03:53
funkyHatok03:53
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kbrooksgtg03:54
Antinomykbrooks: slow. crashes. virus. $$$03:54
kbrooksbreakfast03:54
kbrooksAntinomy: i wish virus scanners were free03:54
CapSoftavclam03:54
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funkyHatAntinomy, no, i think you are capable enough :)03:54
CapSoftclam av03:54
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AntinomyfunkyHat: god bless you.03:55
Antinomylol03:55
Antinomyok, let me remove a few more things03:55
tazsome virus scanners ARE free..03:55
CapSoftclam AV03:55
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CapSoftclam antivirus!!03:55
CapSoftlol03:55
CapSoftavg03:55
jeran_I installed a program and it doesn't show up on my application list.. what should I do about that? I already killed the gnome-panel and that didn't do anything03:55
ajhobbskbrooks -> Both Avast! and Grisoft offer free for personal use windows AV packages that work much better than Symantec/McAffee junk.03:56
CapSoftow yeah03:56
AntinomyfunkyHat: thanks for all your help, btw03:56
funkyHatAntinomy, XP will cope fine with 20 - 25 GB, so you could reduce hda1 to aroud that size (when you get to that stage of course)03:56
CapSoftavast is good too03:56
CapSoftavg03:56
CapSoftavast03:56
CapSoftclam av03:56
CapSoftall free03:56
ajhobbsGrisoft is the maker of AVG.  =)03:56
CapSofti know03:56
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funkyHatavg and avast unfortunately don't make free editions of their linux virus scanners03:57
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AntinomyfunkyHat: Because right now, it's using 16. If thats the case, should I just proceed and give it 20 at the partition screen?03:57
CapSofthttp://www.clamav.net/03:57
ajhobbsExcepting you don't really need a linux AV unless you're serving windows files or processing mail.03:57
funkyHatnot that it matters :D unless you run a mail server03:57
CapSoftclamav 0.86.1 released (Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:02:10 GMT)03:58
vaderfor windows clamav in know as clamwin03:58
ajhobbsI run a mail server where an outside linux box filters with clamav, inside filters with Trendmicro's ServerProtect family.  Very rare that clamav misses one.03:58
funkyHatAntinomy, yes, that's what i would do :)03:58
Antinomyok03:59
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funkyHat*waits for someone to disagree with me* ;)03:59
AntinomyfunkyHat: so, 20 for XP, 20 for UbuRoi, 40 for fat3203:59
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AntinomyfunkyHat: sound kosher? :)03:59
funkyHat20 for ubuntu is overkill03:59
ajhobbsfunkyhat Not disagreeing, just not seeing the point.  =)03:59
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AntinomyfunkyHat: suggest? Yo soy un n00b.03:59
ajhobbsOh... Bitdefender does make a free for linux version.04:00
funkyHatajhobbs, i meant about Antinomy's issue ;)04:00
scorpio2002Hi there! I can't understand why each time I open Thunderbird it asks me to choose a profile. I only have the default profile and I even checked "Don't aks at startup".04:00
ajhobbsD'oh.  =)04:00
Antinomylol04:00
afonitdoes anyoneknow how to assign shortcut keys to open programs, that are not listed oin the preferences > keyboard shortcuts.  For instance, if I wanted to assign a shortcut key to gedit or inkscape etc...04:00
Raptoidselamlar.04:00
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dupsafonit: it's a whole submenu04:00
dupsare you in Hoary?04:00
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afonitdups, yes sir04:00
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dupsafonit: go to system > Prefs > Keyboard Shortcutsz04:01
funkyHatAntinomy, i have ubuntu on a 10gb partition04:01
AntinomyfunkyHat: should be enough?04:01
afonitdups, ok, I am in there04:01
renedoxwhen I ps, I see a process called "foomatic-rip"04:01
onkarshindeafonit: why would you want to do it from inside mozilla/firefox?04:01
renedoxanyone have any idea what that is?04:01
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shackanhi04:01
ajhobbsrenedox Print processor.04:01
renedoxah.. ok04:02
afonitonkarshide: I don't believe I ever mentioned firefox, read my posts, I am just trying to assign shortcut keys to programs opening04:02
funkyHatAntinomy, yes that should be fine, especially as you are storing files on a separate partition04:02
jeran_I installed Papaya and TinTin++ and now that they are installed and I ran killall gnome-panel.. I can't find them and I have to go into the terminal to load them up.. Is there a way to get them on the Application List?04:02
chrissturmhow do i configure openoffice org2 to display times as 24h04:02
afonitdups, k, I am in there, where can I add programs in here, and their shortcuts?04:02
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onkarshindeafonit: sorry04:03
AntinomyfunkyHat: ok, last Question (for now lol) I'll be backing up my fat32 to a 120 GB external. will my windows backup utility be able to see both?04:03
shackanI've got a textonly ubuntu sitting here, how do I disable the bell ? it's driving me nuts!!! ('set bell-style none' in bashrc does NOT help)04:03
funkyHatjeran, install smeg, and use that to add shortcuts04:03
afonitonkarshinde: np04:03
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LuNaTiK^GuYhow can i add a picture in gaim MSN?04:04
LuNaTiK^GuYthe same as i do on MSN in windows04:04
LuNaTiK^GuY?04:04
shackanthe same as you do on gaim on windows :D04:04
LuNaTiK^GuYi never used gaim on windows04:04
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Slipaway172how do i get firestarter to boot on startup?04:04
LuNaTiK^GuYlol04:04
funkyHatAntinomy, i don't know much about the windows backup utility, but i assume it will be able to see any fat32 and ntfs filesystems04:04
tritiumLuNaTiK^GuY, in your account settings04:04
deFrysk LuNaTiK^GuY are you "pretty" ?04:04
deFrysk;p04:04
LuNaTiK^GuYyes i am :)04:04
LuNaTiK^GuYlol04:05
FlyingSquirrel32how do I kill a process whose ID keeps changing04:05
CapSoft|afkFlyingSquirrel32, kill the parent04:05
onkarshindeLuNaTiK^GuY: Go to account settings and see if you can find Buffy Icon.04:05
onkarshindeI mean edit the MSN account04:05
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FlyingSquirrel32CapSoft|afk: And how do I identify it?04:05
LuNaTiK^GuYok found ;D04:06
darkmatterSlipaway172:once you have firestarter configured it should load automatically04:06
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Slipaway172?04:06
tritiumFlyingSquirrel32, you can use pgrep to find it04:06
jeran_funkyHat: How do I install smeg??04:06
FlyingSquirrel32I'm running ps -ax |grep synaptic04:06
Slipaway172well it dosent04:06
Amaranthjeran_: It's in backports.04:06
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tritiumFlyingSquirrel32, try pgrep synaptic04:06
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LuNaTiK^GuY10ks guys ;)04:06
ajhobbsFlyingsquirel ps axjf will give you a process tree04:06
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funkyHatAmaranth, it's in one of the others too04:06
tritium10 thousand seconds to you too, LuNaTiK^GuY :)04:07
darkmatterinstall and launch the GUI. follow the wizard to start the firewall. it will run on boot after that04:07
v3ctorExecuting 'grub-install (hd0)' failed. This is a fatal error04:07
AmaranthfunkyHat: It's in breezy too, of course. :)04:07
AmaranthfunkyHat: And it's always available on my website.04:07
dataw0lfmorning guys.04:07
LuNaTiK^GuYlol04:07
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darkmattermorning04:07
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tazmorning :)04:07
LuNaTiK^GuY10ks WOW never thought about that!! :)04:07
LuNaTiK^GuYlol04:07
xliuwhich command can make the computer go to sleep?04:07
dataw0lfWe're going to be having a couple contests on the forums within the weeks.  One for design guys and another for programming.04:07
v3ctorwhat can i do if grub-install fails ?04:08
jeran_Ooo, I found a forum for me on the Ubuntu Forums - The Absolute Beginner04:08
funkyHatoh, yes, it just looks like it's in one of the others as i got it from backports and then disabled04:08
onkarshindev3ctor: are you running grub-install from withing ubuntu?04:08
dataw0lfI'm hoping someone can give me ideas for programming contest.04:08
AntinomyfunkyHat: ok, I'm going to resize partition #1, not the hard drive, right :)?04:08
v3ctoronkarshinde: from installer04:08
dataw0lf+the04:08
funkyHatyes, resize hda1, not hda04:08
funkyHat:)04:08
Antinomy:)04:08
benkong2hello all is this correct to make this cron run on the 14 and 30 of each month? **14/30**sudo sh /root/dyndns_update.sh04:08
FlyingSquirrel32tritium: it returns nothing, but if I do ps -ax|grep synaptic it returns a line04:08
LuNaTiK^GuYOOo should improve a little on bootup speeds....but other than that...i found it to be a total substitute for my office work04:08
onkarshindev3ctor: I think it should be 'grub-install /dev/hda'04:08
AntinomyfunkyHat: The horror, THe horror.04:08
funkyHatAntinomy, problem? :(04:08
dataw0lfif any of you guys have any programming contest ideas and/or prize ideas, /query them to me so I can propose them to the rest of the forum staff.04:09
dataw0lfthanks.04:09
onkarshindev3ctor: I suppose (hd0,0) indicates first partition and you have to install grub at MBR04:09
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AntinomyfunkyHat: no, the fact that I'm being unleashed on this poor innocent computer! :)04:09
v3ctoronkarshinde: same error04:09
tritiumFlyingSquirrel32, you have to use the complete process name04:09
v3ctoralso same error if i try floppy04:09
funkyHathahaha04:09
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tritiumFlyingSquirrel32, I just double-checked.  "pgrep synaptic" works here...04:10
onkarshindev3ctor: At what stage are you trying? I mean why at all you need to do it manually?04:10
v3ctoronkarshinde: installer is failing04:10
AntinomyfunkyHat: hmmm...not a big deal, but does the x86 install always hang on the choose language screen?04:10
v3ctori didn't want to try to do it manually04:10
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Slipaway172whats going on???????//04:10
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funkyHatno idea, didn't for me. although i think warty did on one of my other machines...04:10
onkarshindev3ctor: can't say anything till I know exact scenario.04:11
v3ctorlol04:11
FlyingSquirrel32tritium: okay, thanks.04:11
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aiook - so i asked this question in #gnome, but nobody knew.  in gnome, is there a way I can drag an image (or other file type) from my browser (firefox) to my desktop and have an application automatically open that file?04:11
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tritiumSlipaway172, what are you doing?04:11
Slipaway172v3ctor i didn't want to try to do it manually04:11
BurgundaviaSlipaway172, please stop flooding04:11
AntinomyfunkyHat: after I do this, whenever I boot up it will give me a choice of which OS to boot from? or do I have to change the boot order?04:11
Slipaway172* Channel this is all i see04:11
funkyHatSlipaway172, what are you doing?04:11
Slipaway172whats going on?04:11
Slipaway172nothing04:11
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Seveasfools...04:11
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funkyHatAntinomy, it will give you a choice, and then boot ubnutu after 8 seconds. you can change this quite easily though from within linux04:12
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v3ctoronkarshinde: after it installed all of the packages, and tried to do automatic install of grub to MBR, it fails and gives that error04:12
Slipaway172that was a wierd problem, sry04:12
qt2http://taint.org/wk/AlsaSoftwareMixing <- should i be doing the alsa config AND the polypaudio config on this page, or just one or the other?04:12
SeveasSlipaway172, do that once more and you're banned...04:12
Slipaway172i said sry04:13
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AntinomyfunkyHat: ok, I'm at the partition editing screen. I have Use as, bootable flag, and size.  Only worried about size, right?04:13
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AntinomyfunkyHat: oh damn. nm, i didnt do an error scan. back to XP...04:13
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onkarshindev3ctor: Did you by any chance select some other drive's MBR than on which you install Ubuntu? I mean are you using a second harddisk/04:13
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vafnordhi, i am having problems with my machine running incredibly slow04:13
v3ctoronkarshinde: only one hd04:14
xliudo you know how to configure the "System---Logout" window(which will popup when you press Logout in the menu, asking whether you want to shutodwn)? There is not choice for suspending the computer.04:14
aiohere's my question again since there was a lot of noise right after me posting it:  in gnome, is there a way I can drag an image (or other file type) from my browser (firefox) to my desktop and have an application automatically open that file?04:14
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vafnordi checked top and there are two copies of gdm running04:14
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vafnordthat seems wrong04:14
onkarshindev3ctor: This is weird. I am using grub since RedHat 7.2 Never had a single problem.04:14
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funkyHatcan someone confirm that the correct way to rezize a windows partiton in the installer is just to specify a new size?04:14
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theine@find cohf04:15
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AntinomyfunkyHat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning04:15
v3ctoronkarshinde: i am not sure it is a grub problem, lilo won't install either04:15
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onkarshindefunkyHat: You mean edit partition and then specify size. I hope there is no data on partition.04:15
dataw0lfSo noone has any ideas for the programming contest?04:16
kbrooksdataw0lf: what?04:16
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vafnordwhat contest?04:16
dataw0lfThe Ubuntu Forums programming contest we are going to opening in the next week.04:16
kbrooksdataw0lf: i am able if you tell me in PM04:16
dataw0lfI just mentioned it twice.04:16
funkyHatAntinomy, yes, you just change the size (Y)04:16
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dataw0lfI'm not telling you in PM.04:16
funkyHatheh... msn smileys... :$04:16
kbrooksdataw0lf: well, i'll sign up now :)04:17
dataw0lfI'm globally telling the channel as a forum moderator that we are going to have a programming contest and ideas would be appreciated.  priv me if you have any ideas.04:17
Seveasdataw0lf, look at the Breezy Bounties page :)04:17
darkmattercontest? linky linky04:17
palliAdvanced programming or begginner-alike ?04:17
dataw0lfdarkmatter: we haven't announced it yet.04:17
Seveasdataw0lf, as a forum moderator, you should join the NewUserNetwork :)04:17
darkmatterok04:17
vafnorddatawolf have you ever seen the Python Challenge?04:18
dataw0lfpalli: that'd be what I need feedback for.04:18
AntinomyfunkyHat: should I defrag too?04:18
dataw0lfvafnord: yes.04:18
v3ctoronkarshinde: ok, is there anything left for install process after boot loader install? I can boot off of a live cd and try grub from there04:18
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funkyHatAntinomy, yes04:18
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Antinomyk04:18
vafnordmaybe something like that would be cool04:18
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LuNaTiK^GuYgtg for a Cisco CCNA lecture...cya all next time :)04:18
AntinomyLuNaTiK^GuY: bye!04:18
funkyHati'll expect your next question in about 2 hours then Antinomy ;)04:18
vafnordmaking it must have been a lot of work04:18
dataw0lfSeveas: Seveas: eh, heh.04:18
AntinomyfunkyHat: LOL how sad.04:18
dataw0lfvafnord: I actually pondered that.04:19
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DeepBtsk, tsk.. so Breezy split xserver-xorg and xbase-clients packages, didn't it?04:19
ajhobbsCisco IOS, an excuse to sell cert classes.  Not that I'm bitter or anything.  =)04:19
DeepBthus breaking X again, hasn't it?04:19
darkmatteryep. x is broken04:19
tritiumDeep6, see the /topic04:19
onkarshindev3ctor: No there is nothing I suppose. You can try the live cd thing.04:19
tritiumDeepB, rather04:19
AntinomyfunkyHat: errorcheck first, or defrag first?04:20
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DeepBtritium: seen it, ty04:20
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vaderI haven't tried breezy yet only because they say in the welcome NOT to use it yet04:20
mojoyo yo04:20
pallidataw0lf: Back in my university i've been involved with programming contests for junior students. So for beginner alike challenges i have plenty.04:20
lapohi04:20
mojoi am using Breezy now04:20
funkyHatAntinomy, defrag first04:20
vafnordcan anyone help me troubleshoot an extreme slowness problem?04:20
mojoit's so COOL04:20
Antinomyk04:20
mojono bugs so far04:20
darkmatterlapo:hi04:20
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palliPython challenge-alike contests of course is great as well.04:20
onkarshindemojo: What is your hardware config? specifically RAM?04:20
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binadoes ubuntu support rpms as well as debs?04:21
Seveasbina, yes04:21
AntinomyDoes ubuntu support Affirmative Action?04:21
DeepBbina: kinda, see man alien04:21
Burgundaviabina, with alien, yes04:21
vafnordi've installed from rpms using alienm04:21
Seveasbina, but rpms are bad :)04:21
baroslbina, yes but cannot support dependencies04:22
binaSeveas: cool.  hehe. windows bad?04:22
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Seveasalmost as bad04:22
barosli don't recommend using alien, use native rpm.04:22
Seveasred hat bad04:22
binaDeepB: barosl: hmm ok thanks04:22
vafnordcan anyone help me troubleshoot an extreme slowness problem?04:22
binaSeveas: nooo04:22
darkmatterand suse bad.04:22
bina:)04:22
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mojoonkarshinde:i use 1GB RAM04:22
Seveasvafnord, not if you con't give more info...04:22
Seveasdon't*04:23
mojoonkarshinde:and ofcourse running with P4 3.73Ghz04:23
vafnordi'm running hoary04:23
vafnordon an athlon xp 2500 w/ 512mb of ram04:24
Ms-W0rldomg 3.73ghz :|04:24
vafnordeverything takes forever to start up04:24
funkyHatAntinomy, what's affirmative action?04:24
Ms-W0rldvafnord: u usin ubuntu?04:24
PIANISTvafnord: Have you any servers running?04:24
vafnordi'm running hoary04:24
PIANISTMs-world yes he do04:25
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Ms-W0rldtry restartin x04:25
juanitoo04:25
juanitoola04:25
vafnordit's an ongoing problem04:25
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juanitoalguien habla espaol04:25
darkmatterhello04:25
DeepBjuanito: intenta en #ubuntu-es04:25
vafnordun poquito04:25
Seveasjuanito, va en #ubuntu-es por espaol04:25
PIANISTvafnord: if you startup your PC then he stops at some points with loading?04:26
vafnordin top, i noticed two copies of gdm04:26
PIANISTlol04:26
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vafnordpianist: in the startup, it takes a long time to get past something like "hotplug"04:27
Seveasvafnord, it's normal that there are 2 copies of it running04:27
vafnordok04:27
Seveasvafnord, do you have the ubuntu-desktop package (or at least grepmap installed)04:27
Seveasif not: install grepmap04:27
pallidataw0lf: So if you need help with coming up with ideas for tests, feel free to contact me.04:27
Seveasand hotplug sometimes take a while, it's normal04:27
bennydoes anyone know how to raise the system volume?04:28
PIANISTntp server synchronisation can also take long04:28
dataw0lfpalli: are registered on the forums?04:28
Seveasbenny, gnome-volume-control04:28
humehi...i'm new to ubuntu - when I install new programs, they are not included in the menus in gnome or KDE - how do i make them appear there?04:28
Seveasbenny, or alsamixer (in a terminal)04:28
bennyim using kubuntu Seveas04:28
Seveashume, you can use smeg for that04:28
humeSeveas, smeg?04:28
bennyheh cool04:28
dataw0lfSeveas: I'll let the fellow mods know about NewUserNetwork04:28
bennythx Seveas04:28
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Seveasbenny, ah, then do the alsamixer trick ;)04:29
Amaranth*beep* *beep* *beep*04:29
Seveasdataw0lf, great!04:29
bennythats a cool terminal app04:29
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darkmatterhume:and the menu package04:29
Amaranthat least i know it's talked about a lot :)04:29
Seveashume, poke Amaranth04:29
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Seveashe created it04:29
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Amaranth!smeg04:29
ubotu[smeg]  a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.04:29
vafnordseveas: yes, ubuntu-desktop is installed04:29
Amaranthsmall netsplit04:29
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vafnordseveas: and grepmap04:29
Amaranthhume: I'd suggest getting it from backports or using the automated script.04:29
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Seveasvafnord, then don't worry about hotplug taking long, it's a known issue and worked on04:30
Seveasfor me hotplug sometimes takes 30-60 seconds04:30
humeAmaranth, automated scritp? sorry if i sound stupid....04:30
Seveashume, install script04:30
Amaranthhume: ok, open a terminal and type this in: 'wget http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg && chmod +x installsmeg && sudo ./installsmeg'04:31
snikkerhi, i've got a problem with firefox: i'm unable to install any .xpi extensio (i don't have the install button in firefox)04:31
Varunihello guys, I just installed ubuntu and got a problem with my internet. It will not obtain an address through DHCP (however, internet does work as you can see, on another OS)04:31
Amaranthhume: without quotes, of course04:31
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pallidataw0lf: No, sorry not an Ubuntu user.04:31
Amaranthhume: it'll ask for your password04:31
lenoxmohi everyone!04:31
vafnordseveas: i'm not specifically worried about hotplug, someone just asked if some part of my startup was very slow04:31
SeveasVaruni, wired/wireless?04:31
coobrahoy04:31
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Seveasvafnord, ah ok04:31
Amaranthpalli: What do you use then?04:31
Varuniseveas, wired, utp cable that connects to my cable modem04:31
Seveasvafnord, then what else is slow/what are your computer specs?04:32
vafnordseveas: my machine is just horribly slow04:32
palliGentoo <flameait> Of course </flamebait>04:32
v3ctorgood thing i tried this on a test machine before putting this mess on my real desktop04:32
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coobravafnord: spec04:32
kbrooksv3ctor: what mess?04:32
SeveasVaruni, odd... does 'sudo mii-diag eth0' tell you 'you have link beat'?04:32
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humeAmaranth, thx04:32
vafnordathlon xp 2500 w/ 512mb of ram, nforce2 mobo04:32
Varunii will go and check out :) see you soon :)04:32
vadervanford: so is miine but mine is just a p1 233 with 64 mb ram.....lol04:32
darkmatterpalli:Gentoo? you traitor!!!04:32
Seveasvafnord, how much swap?04:32
v3ctorubuntu installer fails at grub install04:32
Amaranthhume: After it's done smeg should be in your menus at Applications->System Tools->Smeg Menu Editor04:32
chromatehi, i've installed the java plugin but it doesn't show up in firefox... though when i start from console i get this error: "/home/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_nscp.so not found" ... /home/lib is definitely not the correct directory for it to be looking in; i know the file is at /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/lib/i386/ where is this configured?04:33
Amaranthhume: if it's not log out and back in and it will be04:33
MrMocan I have Floatvalues as result from $((A/B)) too?04:33
MrMoor is that limited to INT values?04:33
vafnordswap =  506028k04:33
SeveasMrMo, INT only04:33
kbrooksdarkmatter: dont flame04:33
darkmatternot flaming04:33
pallidarkmatter: :)04:33
darkmattersorry if it looked that way04:33
kbrooksdarkmatter: well, it did look that way04:34
coobravafnord:  i run it on 400mhz 256ram 12gig04:34
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vafnordi never had this problem in gentoo04:34
coobrano probs :/04:34
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Seveasvafnord, can you put the output of 'top -b -n1' on the pastebin please04:34
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djrbhi room04:34
djrbi need help04:34
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Seveasdjrb, you've come to the right place then04:34
kbrooksdjrb: ask04:35
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djrbi have a WPC54G v.4 Wireless card04:35
darkmatterhelp with what04:35
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AntinomyfunkyHat: couldn't i have been irresponsible and skipped the defrag?04:35
Antinomy:)04:35
djrbi would like for it to work on my new Ubuntu system04:35
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sbartleylinuxCan anyone point me to documentation on creating a secured apt repository server?04:35
vafnordseveas: sorry, i don't know what the pastebin is04:35
Seveasvafnord, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:35
djrbcan anyone help04:35
Seveasdjrb, look at the WiFiHowto on wiki.ubuntu.com04:36
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djrbokie04:36
Seveasthat might help. If not, come back here :)04:36
funkyHatAntinomy, probably, but the resize will be a lot faster if if doesnt have to move files about itself04:36
v3ctorinstall attempt 404:36
AntinomyfunkyHat: alright, fine, geez...:)04:37
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darkmatterv3ctor: good luck04:37
vafnordSeveas: done04:37
coobrado anyone use wiki or ubuntuguide :704:37
vafnordSeveas: thanks for yor help btw04:37
AntinomyANyone know of any good calendar programs for ubuntu?04:37
binahow do u restart services in ubuntu? service /sbin/service and /usr/sbin/service dont work04:37
funkyHatwe don't like ubuntuguide coobra ;)04:37
djrbi am a a beginner level Linux User.........i need some help understanding wat to do.....04:37
binawhereis service doesnt show owt either04:38
djrb:(04:38
v3ctordarkmatter: don't need luck, I need a bootloader04:38
coobrafunkyHat:  ohh k :04:38
coobra:/*04:38
darkmatterlol04:38
qt2is the default sound server for breezy still going to be esound?04:38
funkyHatwiki is good though :)04:38
snikkerhi, i've got a problem with firefox: i'm unable to install any .xpi extension (i don't have the install button in firefox). anyone have this problem?04:38
djrbi have the CD of Drivers that came with my card........will i need it?04:38
vafnordwhat's wrong with ubuntuguide?04:38
kbrookssnikker:04:38
kbrooks!firefox04:38
coobrais there a ubuntu for sparcs :p04:38
timqt2, i thought dmix (but i have no idea what I'm talking about most of the time)04:38
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kbrooksvafnord:04:39
qt2tim, dmix isnt a sound server, it's a mixer.04:39
funkyHatdjrb, does the CD have a folder with linux drivers in it? (probably called linux ;))04:39
kbrookssnikker: <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, firefox is not the newest version available as seen on mozilla.org. However, all the security fixes are "backported" into Ubuntu's version. So although your Firefox is up-to-date, its version number is lower than the current release. To install themes or extensions, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub to "1.0.6"04:39
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djrblet me see04:39
vafnordsnikker, i had that problem in the past but it automagically cleared up when i updated firefox04:39
qt2tim, sound servers are... arts, esound pand polypaudio i believe.04:39
kbrooksvafnord:04:39
kbrooks!ubuntuguide04:39
ubotuit has been said that ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.04:39
vafnordkbrooks?04:39
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djrbthere is nota Linux Folder no04:40
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ambroshi all04:40
Antinomyyah, ubuntu guide is like giving a man a fish.04:40
Will_Antinomy: Depends on the man04:40
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darkmatterhi ambros04:40
ambrosis her a german?04:40
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ambrosi mean hear!04:40
Will_It is good for people who already know how to fish, but sometimes forget where to do it04:40
DeepBsomeone knows where the hell have they put the startx script in Breezy? it was used to be on xbase-clients, but i can't find it now...04:40
AntinomyWill_: yes. it does. It shouldn't purport to be a guide for beginners, then04:40
Will_Antinomy: True04:40
Amaranthubuntuguide is like giving a man a slow-acting poison04:41
Will_DeepB: locate startx ?04:41
qt2Antinomy, it's good for quick refrence though ;)04:41
kbrooksAmaranth and Will_: heh04:41
DeepBWill_: ty, no dice04:41
vafnordharsh!04:41
AntinomyI tried to use it, and not only was it pretty damn opaque, it didn't even work. :)04:41
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AntinomyAmaranth: lol04:41
Varuniok, i checked my network connection with sudo mii-diag eth0 and got the message that I do have heart beat and that everything is working OK. Furthermore, copying the IP, subnet and gateway from the other OS does not resolve the problem either04:41
djrbhow do you go about loading the Drivers04:42
binahow do you start/stop services?04:42
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snikkerkbrooks: i've change the string to 1.0.6 but it doesn't work again :-(04:42
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AmaranthIt's cleaned up a lot recently but it used to have you do things that were _guaranteed_ to eventually fsck up your install.04:42
vafnordi was never able to get mplayer working following ubuntuguide04:42
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spolaim planning to install ubuntu on a second machine, and i was wondering if there's a way to get a list of all programs i apt-getted on this machine?04:42
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kbrooksspola: dpkg -l04:42
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Antinomyis it apt-getted or apt-got? :)04:42
DeepBspola: dpkg --get-selections04:42
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funkyHatsnikker, firefox (ubuntu hoary release) is a bit broken at the moment :(04:43
spolaapt-getted, DUH ! :)04:43
spolathx a mill04:43
Antinomylol04:43
Antinomyapt-gotten04:43
epI like the upuntu-guide format.  Succient and easy to understand.04:43
funkyHatlol04:43
vafnordby the rules of compound word grammar in english, apt-getted would be correct04:43
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Amaranthep: It doesn't tell your what you're doing or why. It just tells you to do it.04:44
funkyHatyes, apt-getted :)04:44
Antinomyis there a real beginners guide out there - for beginners, but not for dumbasses?04:44
qt2does anyone know of a competent ubuntu guide on using polypaudio?04:44
Antinomyamaexactlky04:44
vafnordouch04:44
darkmatterwiki04:44
AntinomyAmaranth: exactly04:44
Burgundaviaqt2, polypaudio can just be installed to replace esound04:44
Burgundaviano configuration necessary04:44
snikkerfunkyHat: i understand... but do you have the "install" button in your firefox's extension window?04:44
Amaranthqt2: You just install the package, it's a drop in replacement for esound04:44
kbrooksbleargh04:45
qt2really? how come i've had to fiddle with things to get rid of static then?04:45
kbrookstransparent04:45
qt2though i've managed to do it04:45
kbrooksitss so white04:45
kbrooks:P04:45
qt2or... maybe i've got a setting wrong somewhere in like... alsa or something?04:45
funkyHatsnikker, if i could get firefox to start, i'd tell you ;)04:45
snikkerfunkyHat: ok... :-)04:46
spolathe list also include programs i didn't apt-get, but that were already "apt-got" by the ubuntu folks before i installed this. Can i leave these packages out? (or find a list of all packages that were already apt-got by ubuntu folks before installation?)04:46
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DeepBaaw... how i hate catching borkeds things while updating.. it was just working freaking good yesterday04:47
qt2alright then, does anyone know of a setting that may cause crackling in my sound? :o04:47
funkyHatqt2, badly ripped compressed audio files? ;)04:47
DeepBspola: you can pipe the output to dpkg --set-selections on the other machine, that will (kinda) clone the installed packages status04:48
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qt2funkyHat, nah, it's systemwide.04:48
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vafnordqt2, i find that if i turn the system volume all the way up, things start sounding cracly04:48
qt2funkyHat, strangely enough, its not noticable in mp3's....04:48
spolahow do you make a pipe between two processess that reside on diffrent computers?04:48
qt2vafnord, as in, in our colume control?04:48
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DeepBspola: poor man's solution: dump the first output to a file, scp to the other machine, pipe it04:49
kefkeywhen the Line In volume is raised, my sound starts crackling04:49
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vafnordqt2, yes, if i turn the system volume, or, say xmms volume all the way up, it gets crackly, but if i leave them a little lowered and adjust volume on my speakers it sound fine04:50
spolai was thinking apt-get *probably* logs what it installs and that it *hopefully* does this by simply appending to a file. If so i can find my packages on the bottom of this file (if only i knew which file but im googling it atm)04:50
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vafnordqt2, is it crackly all the time or just when the volume is pumped?04:51
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qt2vafnord, let me test.04:52
DeepBspola: ok, ignore me, after all i was just giving you a solution that works ;)04:52
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funkyHatAntinomy, you do need to create a swap partition when you get round to editing your partition table04:52
snikkerfunkyHat: problem solved. i've dragged the extension into the extension window and it work.04:52
funkyHatcool, can you solve my problem now? i'd like it to start up :D04:53
funkyHat;)04:53
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AntinomyfunkyHat: ? what is the swap partition?04:53
spolai said thx !!! i was just curious and seeing if there was a more wet-fingers approach04:53
AntinomyfunkyHat: :)04:53
qt2vafnord, at the moment, it jsut seems to be the vulume...04:53
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funkyHatAntinomy, the equivalent of a page file (virtual memory) in windows04:53
rowniehi04:54
rowniehi04:54
funkyHatAntinomy, it doesn't need to be large, i would go with roughly 2x the amount of ram you have in the PC04:54
darkmatterrownie:hi04:54
rownie hi..........04:54
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djrbhi im back04:54
funkyHatmore than that though if you don't have much ram04:54
djrbi need guided help on getting my drivers in with NDISWRAPPER04:55
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djrbis anyone able to assist me?04:56
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ColonelKernelalright, im back04:57
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AntinomyfunkyHat: ok, so I will have 4 partitions - 1) XP (20GB) 2) Linux (10GB) 3) FAT32 (29 GB) 4) SWAP (1 GB [256MB x 2 = 512, doubled for safety's sake] )04:57
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djrb:|04:58
darkmatterAntimony: sounds good04:58
funkyHatAntinomy, yep :)04:58
Antinomydarkmatter: thks04:58
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhow to test to see if surround sound is working04:59
djrbi need assistance with my drivers and ndis04:59
AntinomyfunkyHat: could you explain the function of the SWAP a little? and is it just for linux if XP handles it internally?04:59
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kbrooksAntinomy: yes04:59
Antinomykbrooks: just for linux?04:59
qt2blah04:59
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow to tell if your surround sound is working?04:59
kbrooksAntinomy: yes04:59
qt2i think i'm having sound clipping issues.05:00
djrbis anyone available to assist me?05:00
Antinomykbrooks: do I need to name it anything in particular to have linux recognize it?05:00
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qt2ChurcH_of_FoamY, check to see if sound is coming from all speakers when playing something that supports surround sound? like... say... a dvd?05:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYkk05:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYthanx05:00
funkyHatAntinomy, the swap partition is used when you run out of ram, some of the data stored in the ram (hopefully data that isn't being used immediately), is moved to the swap partition to make space in ram for new programs to run or whatever05:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYi have to go now though05:00
darkmatterAntimony: Windows has it's own internalized 'paging file". the swap you partitioned is just linux05:00
AntinomyfunkyHat: thanks, understood05:01
ColonelKernelI share my swap between linux and XP05:01
ColonelKernelI just make the pagefile.sys my swap file05:01
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AntinomyBut my question is this - I am setting up 4 partitions, two of which are ubu and swap. How does ubu recognize the swap partition? must it be named something in particular?05:02
funkyHati have a pagefile partition for XP, and a swap partiton for linux05:02
kbrooksAntinomy: no05:02
ColonelKernelyou gotta have a fat32 partition there somewhere and put your pagefile there05:02
djrbi need help:(05:02
kotatsuis there any way to keep a nautilus command in the foreground of a terminal?05:02
ColonelKernelI dont see any point wasting so much space05:02
Antinomykbrooks: how does it know then?05:02
kbrooksColonelKernel: cut cut cut </movie>05:02
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EleventhHi people!05:02
kotatsuI want to wait until the window is closed, but there doesn't seem to be any way to wait on nautilus to close or query it for status05:02
kbrooksAntinomy: easy. fdisk -l and swapon05:02
funkyHatAntinomy, when you're setting up your partitions, you specify that the 1GB partition is type = swap, and set use as = swap05:03
Antinomygotcha05:03
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kbrooksAntinomy: that and awk. ;)05:03
AntinomyfunkyHat: please say you'll be here when I do that!05:03
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Eleventhanyone knows how to change monitor resolutions? it seems my monitor is not detected well. Am using a 17" monitor but stuck on 640x480?05:04
funkyHati should be around most of the day, if not there are plenty of other people around who will know exactly what to do as well05:04
ColonelKernelEleventh, change the refresh rates in xorg.conf05:05
ColonelKernelit will have resolution ranges int here for ya05:05
Eleventhoh. thanks will try that. ColonelKernel :)05:05
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TheSinhey peeps!05:05
ColonelKernellook for 'Section "Monitor"'05:05
Antinomykbrooks: awk?05:06
funkyHatpitti, have you discovered the problem with firefox yet?05:06
qt2Eleventh, System > Prefrences > Screen Resolution?05:06
TheSingreat work on this dist, just wondering if anyone running the dev release (breezy) is missing mkfontdir in xutils?05:06
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pittifunkyHat: I'm at it, no05:06
Eleventhqt2 = already done that but only stuck to 640x48005:06
TheSinmy xutils pkg is just /usr/share/doc stuff and no utils at all05:06
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Eleventhcant chose any other resolutions.05:06
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Diablo_help!!05:07
funkyHatok :(. i will be eternally grateful when you do :)05:07
stjepanhello05:07
funkyHatwell, until it breaks again ;)05:07
Diablo_whene i connect to my cel Motorola v710 via bluetooth tell me invalid pin05:07
kbrooksbrb05:07
TheSinoh and the pingus deps need to be updated or libclanlib2c2 needs to provide libclanlib205:08
stjepanwhen I try sudo apt-get install kde05:08
stjepanit says error05:08
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TheSinnot that pingus matters while I can't start Xorg with out mkfontdir :D05:08
stjepanstjepan is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.05:09
stjepanWhat should I do?05:09
stjepan:(05:09
DeepBTheSin: join the club05:09
funkyHatstjepan, are you on ubuntu?05:09
darkmatterstjepan: log in as root. apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:09
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TheSinDeepB, so it's a known problem then05:09
ompaulstjepan, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:09
DeepBTheSin: see the /topic05:10
__learner__I need ome help, I'm having trouble with Nvidia drivers.05:10
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TheSinahh :P05:10
djp__learner__: what trouble?05:10
__learner__they just don't work on my system, can you help me?05:10
TheSinthanks deepb05:10
DeepBnp05:10
TheSinseems that mkfontdir is all that is missing after this morning update though05:10
funkyHat__learner__, are you using the ubuntu drivers, or the official nvidia ones?05:10
stjepanI am not in Ubuntu now05:10
djp__learner__: use the nv drivers, they are not restricted.05:11
stjepanI know root password05:11
TheSinwell mkfontdir + all the xutils goodies that is :D05:11
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stjepanbut I want to do sudo from account stjepan05:11
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TheSinanyhow I'll keep an eye out thanks again, and keep out the great work guys!05:11
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djp__learner__: just forgo 3d acceleration for now05:11
bill_help, i updated my system just now and my firefox browser if not launching!05:11
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bill_it says "segmentation fault" if i try to launch from terminal05:12
stjepanso?05:12
funkyHat__learner__, where did you get the nvidia drivers from?05:12
__learner__I tried both, ubuntu drivers give me vaery bad performance, nvidia ones worked perfectly, but when I restarted X  again and the system can't startX server at startup.05:12
__learner__nvidia site.05:12
stjepanI want to let stjepan do sudo05:12
stjepanhelp05:12
stjepan:(05:12
Originoobill_: try to rm ~/.mozilla/firefox05:12
Diablo_somebody can help me with bluetooth??05:13
djp__learner__: if you MUST use the nvidia drivers, then just install nvidia-glx from the repos05:13
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funkyHatstjepan, add stjepan to the 'Admin' users group05:13
ompaulbill_, since you updated Firefox eariler have you closed all instances of it?05:13
funkyHat*admin05:13
stjepanfunkyHat: how??05:13
frank__learner__: it only stopped working after the reboot?05:13
__learner__Now every time I try do open something related I get' segmentation fault'05:13
bill_yes05:13
bill_firefox was not open when i did the system update05:13
Hohlraumanyone know what kernel the current stable installer is using?05:13
djp__learner__: have you installed the drivers from the ubuntu repo?05:13
Eleventhok now i'm confused, ColonelKernel,  i have opened the xorg.conf and the resolutions are all there. what seems to be the problem?05:13
funkyHatstjepan, system > administration > users and groups05:13
deFrysk2.6.1005:13
funkyHatif you're on gnome05:13
Originoothe new firefox-update suckz. no working sidebar and a lot of crashs05:14
binaanyone know of a .deb for gnomad2?05:14
qt2since polypsound is a drop in replacment for ESD, should i be still choosing Esound from System -> Prefrences -> Multimedia System Selector since Polypsound isnt listed?05:14
qt2Esound == ESD05:14
vaderright now as we speak I am setting ubuntu up on another p2 233 but it doesn't have a dvd player but I want tp use it to play dvd iso images, is there a program there to allow me to do this?05:14
bill_firefox stopped working right after update05:14
__learner__yes, thats strange, if I close X by hand, reinstall nvidia drivers, then startX, it works, buyt  after reboot (maybe X restart too, I didn tried) X cant start05:14
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Originooi've installed 1.0.6 from mozilla.org05:14
HohlraumdeFrysk: .. that seems unlikey.. are you sure? thats the version of the kernel that boots on the cd?05:15
funkyHatbill_, Originoo, ompaul, ubuntu's current release of firefox is broken, someone is working on it though :)05:15
deFryskHohlraum, would not know what other version05:15
frank__learner__: you have to completetly uninstall nvdia-glx buntu driver before installing the nvidia ones05:15
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OriginoofunkyHat: thx05:15
HohlraumdeFrysh: well probably an older version of 2.605:15
frank__learner__: to get rid of /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx05:15
bill_oh ok...whew!05:15
deFryskHohlraum, if you say so05:15
HohlraumdeFrysh: i'll just burn a disk quick and watch for the version number05:16
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ompaulfunkyHat mine which was updated eariler is working fine 1.0.2 MFSA 2005-5605:16
Eleventhanyone care to help? i cant change monitor resolutions. am stuck in 640x480.05:16
qt2vader, not that i know of...05:16
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qt2vader, a network install perhaps, though i've never done one...05:16
funkyHatompaul, i don't think it's broken for everyone, it is here though :(05:17
__learner__I just need to delete that?05:17
Diablo_I am trying to connect my cel via bluetooth but always says invalid pin05:17
qt2Eleventh, System > Prefrences > Screen Resolution?05:17
stjepanI can't do system > administration > users and groups!!05:17
qt2oh, nvm.05:17
vaderhmmmmm ok....maybe I will stumble into something. I have it installed on the laptop now and just need the program to allow me to play the dvd iso05:17
qt2Eleventh, err, what monitor?05:17
stjepanbecause my stjepan user is not sudoer05:17
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funkyHatdoes the ubuntu update manager check periodically, or just at startup?05:17
Eleventhqt2, theres no other to chose of. i've got a viewsonic e70f monotr05:17
stjepancan I login in gdm as root?05:18
deFryskstjepan, ask your admin to give you sudo05:18
deFrysk;p05:18
__learner__I don't remember what I've done last, it is safe to delete /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx, even if my current drivers are the Nvidia (bronken) ones?05:18
Eleventhqt2, its a crt monitor.05:18
stjepandeFrysk: I AM admin05:18
stjepan:)05:18
stjepanso05:18
stjepanwhat should I do?05:18
deFryskstjepan, then login as a user who HAS sudo05:18
deFryskand change the settings05:19
stjepanno users have sudo05:19
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deFryskstjepan, oh ?05:19
frank__learner__: well either you use synaptic to completely uninstall or just delete nvidia-glx. yes you can delete /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx it has nothing to do with the official nvidia drivers.05:19
mumblesstjepan,  the user you first made ?05:19
qt2Eleventh, mind if i pm you?05:19
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spolawhen it says cant umount, device busy: how do i find out which process uses the device?05:19
stjepanmumbles: it is stjepan05:19
mumblessudo command then05:19
vaderok..... time for me to go and have some lunch will get back to this after while05:19
__learner__since I done that, I also can't open synaptic: "Can't copy X authorization file (.Xauthority)")05:19
stjepanand I disabled sudo for user stjepan from user stjepan05:20
funkyHatstjepan, su -, and then run users-admin05:20
Eleventhnoprob qt2.05:20
stjepan:)05:20
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stjepanfunkyHat: in terminal?05:20
frank__learner__: ok maybe  your problem is different than mine.05:20
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stjepanwhat do I need to type?05:20
funkyHatin a terminal window inside X05:20
funkyHattype su -05:20
funkyHatthen enter your root password05:20
stjepanyeah, and...05:20
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funkyHatand then type users-admin05:21
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stjepanI see05:21
__learner__I'll try what you told me.05:21
LychaRwesh !05:21
stjepantnx, funkyHat05:21
stjepanI will try it now05:21
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LychaRneed some help !05:21
frankso the new firefox is broken? I shouldn't upgrade?05:21
djpfrank: appears fine to me...05:22
franksomeone said earlier that its broken...05:22
djpfrank: in what way?05:22
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LychaRje suis sous ubuntu-5.04 et j'ai du mal  config ma connexion internet !05:22
Originoomy is broken05:22
funkyHatit is broken, but it probably depends on the extensions installed, and maybe other packages on the system05:22
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djpwhat is the problem with firefox? i will try to replicate it...05:23
frankLychaR: pour de l'aide en francais: #ubuntu-fr05:23
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LychaRmouarff05:23
ColonelKernelanyone know where i can get a deb package ov tvtime .99?05:23
LychaRit's a mistake sorry05:23
LychaRthx !05:23
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__learner__tx05:25
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__learner__what is the name of the nvidia packages05:25
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__learner__so I can install them from apt05:26
ColonelKernelwhen i download things with firefox, theyre supposed to download to my desktop, yet I dont see them there?05:26
ColonelKernelis there any fix for this?05:26
frank__learner__: nvidia-glx05:26
sobersabrehi,. ive asked this before: what argument shall i pass to make-kpkg so the deb package will be named linux-image ?05:26
frank__learner__: you've given up on the new ones?05:26
djpColnelKernel: look in your home directory05:26
ColonelKernelnope05:26
djpColonelKernel: go into the desktop folder05:27
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sobersabredoes anyone know here ?05:27
__learner__no, but I thing I somehow broke X, so I will turn it to the ubuntu things at first then I will replace it.05:27
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ColonelKerneldjp, yeah but why wont the deskto put new items on it05:27
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ColonelKerneldesktop I mean05:27
funkyHat__learner__, you must enable the nvidia drivers after installing by running "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"05:27
__learner__removed it05:27
__learner__now I need to restartX?05:27
__learner__do you know any text bades irc?05:28
djpColonelKernel: probably need to activate icons on desktop05:28
__learner__text based.05:28
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__learner__So I can talk to you even if my X server is down05:28
ColonelKerneldjp, how do I do that?05:28
funkyHat__learner__, you don't need to do anything outside of X05:28
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__learner__but what if the system dont startX.05:29
sobersabre                   guyss...05:29
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sobersabreneed help here...05:29
djpColonelKernel: Applications/Systen Tools/Configuration Editor/apps/nautilus/desktop05:29
sobersabrecompiling the kernel via make-kpkg05:29
sobersabrethis results in a package kernel-image.05:29
sobersabrethis is pure debian05:29
funkyHat__learner__, irssi-text05:29
sobersabrei want ubuntu.05:29
qt2__learner__, use irssi? :o05:29
__learner__tx05:29
funkyHat__learner__, it should be installed already05:30
djpColonelKernel: try checking documents_icon_visible box05:30
sobersabrei want the deb to be named "linux-image"05:30
sobersabreHOW ?05:30
deFryskchange the kernel image name05:30
deFryskin the make file05:30
supernixanyone here using a compaq with a flat panel display ?05:30
ColonelKerneldjp its got settings for regular system icons but and for mounted volumes but nothing else05:31
qt2supernix, what's your question?05:31
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__learner__tx, Im on it05:31
ColonelKernelhmm its got icon view, sorry, let me check that05:31
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supernixWell I tried Kubuntu on my fiancees PC which is a Compaq she bought last year and it will only use a screen resolution of 680 x 40005:33
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deFrysksupernix, plenty for your fiancee05:33
supernixWindows will support up to 1024 x 76805:33
__learner__another question I have, can I make nautilus default behavior to be/look like windows explorer, I mean showing the folder tree?05:33
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supernixdeFrysk: actually no it is not and definately not for me05:34
deFrysksupernix, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:34
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frank__learner__: I don't know but that's a reason why I switched to KDE05:34
qt2supernix, supernix what model is the router?05:34
qt2and who's the manufacturer05:34
qt2err... monitor even.05:34
supernixwhat router ?05:34
darkmatterare the screen resolutions and horizontal/vertical ranges listed correctly in the xorg.conf for her monitor05:34
deFrysksupernix, use the defaults untill you get to the screenresolutions and set it up for your desired resolution05:35
char1iecha1kcan someone help me setup synaptic properly, i know there are some files to edit but i dont know exactly which ones and what to change05:35
supernixthat I am not sure it is the liveCD05:35
supernixOMG I just remembered it is a Sony Viao05:35
qt2char1iecha1k, you mean add hte extra repositories?05:35
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supernixI have no clue why I was thinking compaq05:36
qt2supernix, it should say somewhere on the monitor.05:36
char1iecha1kqt2, yeah05:36
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qt2char1iecha1k, err, check the wiki.05:36
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qt2!wiki05:37
ArdieMhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com05:37
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djpColonelKernel: did you get it sorted?05:37
alch0405join /#london05:37
alch0405whoops05:37
ColonelKerneldjp, yes thanks05:37
ColonelKernelI think I did anyhow05:37
qt2alch0405, bit of a mixup? ;)05:38
qt2!wiki repositories05:38
qt2hm *shrug*05:38
alch0405yup, my fingers are dyslexic05:38
djpColonelKernel: only asking, because i don't use icons on the desktop and just change firefox to download to my home directory in a downloads folder. now i know how to fix what you just did! ;)05:38
ColonelKernelI dont usually do it either but I wanted to make sure everything was working in case I did05:39
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don-oanyone know how to fix "Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES propertly" when changing keyboard layouts in breezy?05:40
teferiX in breezy is currently broken, don-o05:40
teferisuffer through it, and this, too, shall pass05:41
AntinomyfunkyHat: you're a genius05:41
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PurpleBluTrying to add printer05:41
PurpleBluPurpleBlu I have a Lexmark X5150 and I am not seeing that model when trying to add a local printer.05:41
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funkyHatAntinomy, why's that?05:41
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zwnjwhy there's no bash-completion in repos?05:41
AntinomyfunkyHat: you said "2 hours", and it just stopped defragging...lol05:42
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funkyHathahaha05:42
zwnjwhere can i find a .deb package?05:42
Thewarmachinewanna read something nonesensical?05:42
Thewarmachinehttp://news.com.com/Microsofts+eye+on+open+source/2008-1082_3-5796496.html?tag=nefd.ac05:42
PurpleBluAnyone know about adding printer?05:42
funkyHati'm not such a genius, i just typed that message on the wrong keyboard *rolls eyes*05:42
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AntinomyfunkyHat: now I just gotta scan the disk and we in bidness.05:42
AntinomyfunkyHat: lol!05:43
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qt2PurpleBlu, System -> Administration -> Printing05:43
PurpleBluqt2, I am in the add printer wizard, and my model is not listed.05:44
darkmatterThewarmachin e:That's one funked up article :S05:44
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PurpleBluqt2, I have a Lexmark x5150.05:44
Thewarmachinelol05:44
Thewarmachineit drives me crazy05:45
Thewarmachineslashdo has and article on debian arm system for ~200 usd05:45
Thewarmachineslashdot05:45
darkmattertypical of anything remotely related ro MS05:45
PurpleBluSo what I do abot adding my printer? I am SOL or what?05:45
AntinomyfunkyHat: uh, funky...05:45
bennyhow can i play .wmv's ?05:46
AntinomyfunkyHat: how long will the disk scan take?05:46
Thewarmachineantinomy what you using to scan05:46
Antinomywindows utilities05:46
Thewarmachineand what exactly are you scanning for?05:46
funkyHatAntinomy, no idea, sorry05:47
darkmatterbenny:w32codecs05:47
AntinomyfunkyHat: lol no prob05:47
dbw_anyone else have trouble with the KDE updates?05:47
AntinomyThewarmachine: errors05:47
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Thewarmachineok05:47
dbwnobody?05:47
Thewarmachinehave fun05:47
dbwi have broken packages and i can't fix them05:47
AntinomyThewarmachine: thanks I think....05:47
Thewarmachinewhat can we do about this dude's x515005:47
frankThewarmachine: that article is pretty funny. I wonder how much trouble *I* would have to go through to see 65% of their source code!05:48
Thewarmachineantinomy itll take a whil05:48
Thewarmachinefrank: you'd be breaking so many laws05:48
Antinomyfrank: what article?05:48
Thewarmachinethat if your parole officer was born today hed be in his 80;s05:48
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Thewarmachinehttp://news.com.com/Microsofts+eye+on+open+source/2008-1082_3-5796496.html?tag=nefd.ac05:48
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zygazwnj: source /etc/bash_completion05:50
Thewarmachinefolks this looks sort of promising http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/07/18/2231249.shtml?tid=115&tid=10605:50
zygazwnj: also look in /etc/bash_completion.d05:50
zwnjzyga: what's the package name?05:50
zygazwnj: bash05:51
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zygazwnj: it's right there, just not enabled by default05:51
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zwnjzyga: the version that's in bash is very simple.  i used to use fc3 and it has a complete support for cvs, scp, ssh, etc05:52
Eleventhqt2?05:52
zygazwnj: look in /etc/bash_completion.d05:52
zygaand source /etc/bash_completion05:52
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zygazwnj: many packages include their own /etc/bash_completion.d/* stuff05:52
zygazwnj: if you want completion for cvs, install cvs05:53
dbwdoes anybody have problems with kde updates?05:53
zygazwnj: that's all05:53
dbwi get an error05:53
dbwnow firefox won't work05:53
zygazwnj: also, get apt-file05:53
dbwanybody?05:53
zwnjapt-file :-/05:53
ThewarmachineNEW kde?@?@?@? http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/07/18/115238.shtml?tid=121&tid=10605:53
zygazwnj: and do: apt-file update05:53
Thewarmachinetake a look at that05:53
zygazwnj: apt-file search bash_completion | less05:53
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zwnjzyga: uhu, tnx05:53
Thewarmachineman that reminds me o microcram05:53
zygazwnj: n/p05:53
brandondoes anyone know how i can remove linux to put back windows with a restore disk05:54
dbwGOD DAMMIT05:55
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sobersabrebrandon, it is easy05:55
dbwhow do i fix a broken package?05:55
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dbwapt-get -f doesn't work05:55
ompaulThewarmachine, the problem with that is simple, it is fud, attacking fud is easy, take any point that is vague, point out it is vague therefore not relevant, next you take the statements which porport to be the big picture, in that one the DB creaking at the seams, well if it was the case that the best proposition was MS then what are google doing running Linux, easy when you apply your mind to it05:55
deFryskapt-get -f install05:55
dbwdeFrysk: i've TRIED that05:55
dbwseveral times05:55
frankbrandon: you mean a restore disk that came with your computer?05:55
dbwsame error each time05:55
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Trackilizerhey ppl05:56
Trackilizeri have a question05:56
dbwdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.3_all.deb (--unpack):05:56
dbw trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf05:56
Trackilizerwhy cant i update firefox?05:56
sobersabreTrackilizer, ask me05:56
asad2005I have added the normal user manually and now it does not show in gdmsetup for timed login, any ideas?05:56
sobersabrewhat do u mean you cannot ?05:56
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sobersabrewhich version do you have ?05:56
frankdbw: my solution: uninstall knetworkconf, install kdelibs, install knetworkconf afain05:56
benkong2hey where do I turn on ipv forward? trying to set up a home ubuntu router with dhcpd and dns.05:57
dbwfrank: i can't uninstall knetworkconf05:57
Trackilizerversion 1.0.205:57
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frankdbw why not?05:57
dbwfrank:05:57
dbwE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).05:57
dbwi tried apt-get remove knetworkconf05:57
TrackilizerFirefox is shown as an update05:58
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Trackilizercant be updated however05:58
dbwTrackilizer: dont' do it05:58
dbwTrackilizer: it blew up my computer05:58
Thewarmachine ompaul:good point05:58
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Thewarmachineisnt goodle using stripped pown redhat?05:58
TrackilizerWTH??05:58
dbwokay, i got it05:58
dbwwhew05:58
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Trackilizerit blew your pc up?!?!05:59
dbwfrank: i used dpkg --remove05:59
dbwTrackilizer: well... not literally05:59
CarinArrhey, if my on board sound card doesn't work with hoary "outofbox" so to speak, what would be the first thing to check? i seem to remember putting adding an option when i start up the kernel before05:59
Thewarmachinestripped down05:59
asad2005I have added the normal user manually and now it does not show in gdmsetup for timed login, any ideas?05:59
dbwTrackilizer: but it messed up my pkg system... had to uninstall KDE completely and reinstall05:59
Trackilizerso i should just leave it alone?05:59
CarinArr-putting05:59
CarinArr;)05:59
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benkong2hey folks I am trying to set up a home ubuntu router with dhcpd and dns. any suggestions on good docs?05:59
Trackilizeri see05:59
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Trackilizerin that case ill just leave it as it is now06:00
Trackilizerwas just wondering why it wouldnt update06:00
dbwand FIREFOX IS NOT FUCKING WORKING06:00
dbwcrashes every 2 seconds06:00
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Trackilizerbtw, how would one uninstall KDE?06:00
Thewarmachineits gcc4.0!!!06:00
ompaulThewarmachine,  emm I have reason to believe that they might be using a stripped down debian like distrobution, however I can't be sure so I really won't say which one :-)06:00
Thewarmachinedbw im sure of it06:00
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Burgundaviadbw, known issue06:00
Burgundaviadbw, it is caused by certain extension06:00
Thewarmachinelol  ompaul06:01
dbwBurgundavia: oh? known fix?06:01
dbwBurgundavia: which is that06:01
Burgundaviadbw, extensions, no idea which06:01
ColonelKernelok thats better06:01
no0tichas anyone installed firefox 1.0.6 from mozilla.org tar.gz  installer?06:01
Thewarmachineanyone know where I can obtain gaim 1.4006:01
Burgundaviano0tic, not recommended06:01
Thewarmachineno0tic there is a problem06:01
Thewarmachineit sucks ass06:01
dbwBurgundavia: well i can't remove extensions because if i click on the extensions menu it crashes!!06:01
asad2005Is there an ubuntu amd64 channel to join or just this one06:01
qt2no0tic, there's problems.06:01
zwnjzyga: works :)06:01
no0ticThe_Vox: I noticed, probably...06:01
qt2dbw, rmeove them manually from the folder?06:02
zwnjzyga: but a problem which i'm not sure it's a bug06:02
Thewarmachinei went over this yesterday06:02
__learner__complete remove from nvidia-glx done thourg synaptic06:02
__learner__now what should I do.06:02
don-ohow do i find out which package a file (like /usr/bin/setxkbmap) belongs to?06:02
Thewarmachineso.....06:02
Thewarmachinegaim 14006:02
dbwqt2: is that safe?06:02
no0ticqt2, Thewarmachine, Burgundavia it probably changed files and directories owners...06:02
CarinArranyone that knows of a good website or something to guide me to get my sound working? i've googled with my motherboard model but not come up with any known problems06:02
zwnjzyga: """cvs co <TAB><TAB>""" doesn't read CVS/Root and just works if i use the ENVVAR06:02
no0ticqt2, Thewarmachine, Burgundavia possible?06:02
Burgundaviano0tic, yes, but not reocmmended06:02
ThewarmachineI don't think so06:02
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Burgundaviadbw, you can manually remove them from .mozilla06:03
no0ticBurgundavia: what do you speak about?06:03
Thewarmachinebut it hasn't become  a priority of mine06:03
Burgundaviano0tic, installing FF from source06:03
kotatsuis there any way to either query Nautilus to see if a directory is being accessed, or to keep Nautilus in the foreground when run from a terminal?06:03
no0ticBurgundavia: I'm not speaking about it06:03
no0ticBurgundavia: from the installer, not from sources06:03
Burgundaviano0tic, and, possibly but not recommended06:03
no0ticBurgundavia: could you say something else?!06:04
dbwrm ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/extensions/* -rf ?06:04
Thewarmachinewhere can I get gaim 1.4.006:04
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BurgundaviaThewarmachine, backports has it06:04
no0ticBurgundavia: I noticed problems with firefox 1.0.6 installer, someone can confirm that?06:04
Thewarmachineu sure06:05
Thewarmachine?06:05
no0ticBurgundavia: backports hasn't it06:05
dbwno0tic: complain to firefox, not ubuntu!06:05
Thewarmachinenotic YES06:05
brandoncan someone tell me how to uninstall linux so i can use my restore disk to get back windows?06:05
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no0ticdbw: I know, but I'm not complaining06:05
ThewarmachineIT IS AN INSTALLER ISSUE06:05
dbwbrandon: just put the install disk in and restart06:05
no0ticdbw: I'm in the italian ubuntu community06:05
pmMikeyeah, I be needing a little help. I'm using the live AMD CD and I need to hook up to the internet, however i'm connected via a wireless network and i've no idea how to set it all up... would anyone be able to help?06:05
dbwno0tic: so don't use the damn installer06:05
Thewarmachineso where can I get gaim 1.4006:05
dbwno0tic: good for you06:05
no0ticdbw: stay calm06:06
dbwThewarmachine: gaim.sf.net06:06
Thewarmachineyou need gtk to complile it06:06
ompaulMozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050720 Firefox/1.0 StumbleUpon/1.999 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2 MFSA2005-56) is what I use, I got my nice upgrade this morning from Ubuntu06:06
__learner__how can I stop X server?06:06
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no0ticdbw: I would only know if someone else has had this problem. stop.06:06
__learner__to install nvidia driers from theyr website.06:06
dbw__learner__: control alt backspace06:06
no0ticdbw: I'm not complaining, and I'm not searching for help of any kind06:06
__learner__but when I do contr+alt+backspc it restarts automatically.06:06
pmMikeany help?06:06
brandontried that then after using restore disk and restarted it said loading grub error06:07
dbwno0tic: you're looking in the wrong place!! ubuntu does not produce the firefox installer, we use a package.  if you don't use the package, look for help elsewhere06:07
Thewarmachinethats enough....06:07
no0ticdmn, damn, listen please, I'm not looking for help!!06:07
Thewarmachinedbw relax06:08
pmMike I'm using the live AMD CD and I need to hook up to the internet, however i'm connected via a wireless network and i've no idea how to set it all up... would anyone be able to help?06:08
no0ticdbw: I'm not complaining with you06:08
no0ticdbw: or with anyone else06:08
no0ticdbw: so, please control06:08
Thewarmachineits not your fault06:08
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Antinomydoes ubuntu auto-mount devices?06:09
Thewarmachinei WAS under the impression that this is where people come for help....06:09
ompaulAntinomy, if you let it most of the time yes06:09
__learner__hey, if I just press alt control backspace the system eill restart the X server, I need to shut it down so I can install nvidia drivers.06:09
Antinomyompaul: thanks06:09
Antinomyompaul: so it will prolly automount new partitions, right?06:09
__learner__I aways get help on this channel, people here is nice06:09
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Thewarmachine_learner_: yeah thats true06:10
ompaulAntinomy what kind of partitions06:10
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Thewarmachineand sometimes you come across an elitist06:10
no0ticThewarmachine: yes, I think so too06:10
__learner__yes06:10
__learner__thats sad06:10
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Thewarmachinereally sad06:10
Antinomyompaul: I'm doing a dual boot, wondering if i will have to mount the XP partition and fat32 partitions inside ubu, or if it will do it for me06:10
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Antinomyelitism sucks ass.06:11
__learner__yes you will need.06:11
Thewarmachineit totally does06:11
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Antinomyfriggin elitists.06:11
ThewarmachineI HATE it06:11
__learner__But it is a very simple task rto change fstab.06:11
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datareleaseanyone wanna explain to me how to install drivers in ubuntu?06:11
Beretfabbione, hey06:11
AntinomyDoes ubuntu support Roe v Wade?06:11
Beretfabbione, wake up06:11
cap___learner__, did you figure out stopping X?06:11
fabbionehey Beret06:11
Beretso06:11
Thewarmachineim beginning to think not06:11
fabbioneBeret: sup dude?06:12
__learner__cap_,  no06:12
BeretI just installed ubuntu for the first time06:12
Thewarmachinethe irc channel at least lol06:12
__learner__how do I do it.06:12
Antinomylol06:12
darkmatter_learner_:sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop06:12
Beretneeded something to throw on a thinkpad06:12
fabbioneBeret: nice...06:12
Thewarmachinemaybe we should call eff06:12
Beretfabbione, good work06:12
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ThewarmachineLOL06:12
fabbioneBeret: thanks..06:12
Antinomyheh06:12
__learner__tx06:12
fabbioneBeret: do you like it?06:12
cap___learner__, ctrl+alt+f1 will give you a text console06:12
Beretmost polished, clean distribution I've seen06:12
fabbioneBeret: :)06:12
__learner__I konw, but I need to stop X, so the NVIDIA installer will work06:12
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__learner__Ubuntu totally rox.06:13
cap___learner__, ok, then at the text console type "init 3"06:13
Antinomywhat is the streaming media playa for ubuntu? that will play an mp3 stream?06:13
pmMike_I'm using the live AMD CD and I need to hook up to the internet, however i'm connected via a wireless network and i've no idea how to set it all up... would anyone be able to help?06:13
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cap_Antinomy, mplayer plays everything06:13
fabbioneBeret: nice to hear, really..06:13
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Antinomycap_: having trouble installing it.06:13
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cap_=(06:13
__learner__take a look at the unnoficial ubuntu guide, you can "fix" lot's of things with that06:13
Antinomycap_: get all these wierd dependency problems06:14
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Thewarmachine_learner_ good point06:14
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pmMike_yeah, so anyone prepared to help me with this then?06:14
darkmatter_learner_: kill x with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop06:14
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epWith software patents and and other threats, I'm worried about the future of multi-media on linux. Is mplayer still being actively developed?06:15
NightLordCan someone help me with a problem i'm having with my monitor?06:15
fabbioneBeret: i guess you installed hoary, didn't you?06:15
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Beretwhatever iso is on ubuntulinux.org06:15
Thewarmachineep: dont be too worried06:15
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Beretso yeah06:15
BeretI think so06:15
Thewarmachineyou can always uninstall06:15
qt2brb06:16
Thewarmachineand last I heard they killed software patents06:16
darkmatterwhat's the problem NightLord?06:16
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__learner__tx a lot06:16
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don-oep: The OGG formats help out at lot. at least one codec will be free to use.06:16
__learner__now im form a console! 8)06:16
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NightLordWell, my monitor has an annoying habit of putting the viewing area of the screen to the far right of the monitor, with it only taking up a small amount of the total area, but when i adjust it with the buttons, it resets when i switch it off, i fixed this in windows by using the drivers that my card has to aligh in and resize it06:17
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NightLorddoes anyone know of a ubuntu program that can do that?06:17
fabbioneBeret: fasten your seatbelt for breezy (due to Oct)06:17
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Thewarmachineif all does not go well back to slackware and solaris for me!06:18
darkmatterNightlord: run xvidtune from a terminal06:18
NightLordok06:18
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__learner__nvidia installer gave me lots of errors.06:19
__learner__that cant be good06:19
darkmatteruse the buttons to adjust (left, right, wider, narrower)06:19
Thewarmachineis there a COMPILED version of gaim 1.40 for us ubuntu users06:20
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NightLordthanks dark06:20
NightLord:)06:20
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darkmatterhit apply then show once you haave the setting (trial and error06:20
NightLordok, done, thanks for your help06:21
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darkmatterthen copy the output from terminal06:21
pmMike_I'm using the live AMD CD and I need to hook up to the internet, however i'm connected via a wireless network and i've no idea how to set it all up... would anyone be able to help?06:21
sobersabreare here any make-kpkg masters ?06:21
chrissturmhow do i include a shell script into another shell script?06:21
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sobersabrei cannot find the thing in the manpage!06:21
Thewarmachineman this is unbelieveable06:21
ThewarmachineI ask 1 f****** question and it never gets answered06:21
NightLordi did it, but this is the only output:06:21
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sobersabreThewarmachine, what is your q ?06:22
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NightLordVendor: , Model:06:22
NightLordNum hsync: 1, Num vsync: 106:22
NightLordhsync range 0:  28.00 -  49.0006:22
NightLordvsync range 0:  43.00 -  72.0006:22
sobersabreah, gaim /06:22
klaymthewarmachine: sudo apt-get install gaim ?06:22
deFryskhmmm gaim..06:22
sobersabrewhy don't you f********* compile it yourself ?06:22
ThewarmachineNO GTK06:22
NightLordor go to the website and download the .install06:22
deFryskapt-get source -b gaim using the sources of breezy perhaps ?06:22
othernoobi like you sobersabre ;)06:23
Thewarmachinesobersabre lol06:23
NightLordI used to get that06:23
chrissturmthewarmachine: sudo apt-get build-dep gaim06:23
pmMike_so... can someone PLEASE answer my question06:23
pmMike_yes, no, fuck of would be nice06:23
pmMike_off*06:23
NightLorduse the .install file, if your missing something, it'll say what to search for with apt-get06:23
Thewarmachinelol pmMike06:23
sobersabrepmMike, what's your q ?06:23
Thewarmachinenightlord ill try06:23
pmMike_I'm using the live AMD CD and I need to hook up to the internet, however i'm connected via a wireless network and i've no idea how to set it all up... would anyone be able to help?06:23
klaymwhat's your IQ?06:23
pmMike_12006:24
funkyHatlol06:24
sobersabrepmMike, what wifi card do you own ?06:24
funkyHatwhat?06:24
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deFryskat least thats what penthouse sais06:24
klaymlol, that's according to some scam iq test06:24
othernoobpenthouse is always right!06:24
deFryskothernoob, if you cannot trust penthouse , whats then to trust ?06:25
othernoobexactly06:25
teferi185, and I have the paperwork to back it up...06:25
deFryskteferi, must be a pile06:25
teferiheh06:26
sobersabrepmMike, where are you ....06:26
othernoobteferi: you wanna share your porn ;)06:26
NightLordI might need some help soon also06:26
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teferiothernoob: hold still, i'll telepathically put it in your brain06:26
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othernoobno gay porn please ;)06:26
darkmatterNightlord: How to and example for xvidtune http://pastebin.ca/1823306:26
teferiYOU GET IT ALL06:26
NightLordthanks dark06:26
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NightLordbut my problems sorted now, after some trial and error06:27
pmMike_sorry06:27
NightLordanyone know if there are linux drivers for the modem that a broadband service called "Netvigator" use?06:27
pmMike_i have a linksys wireless-G card06:27
pmMike_or thats what it says on it06:27
pmMike_and its not a card, its a little box on a USB wire06:27
sobersabrepmMike_, is it a supported card ?06:28
qt2NightLord, wghat brand/model is the modem?06:28
sobersabre(device)06:28
deFryskwireless g-string ? </penthousemode>06:28
Antinomylol06:28
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pmMike_it is going to a BT Voyager 2100 router06:28
no0ticis there a script to restore automatically permissions and owners to system files?06:28
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sobersabrepmMike_, are you deaf ? ( i mean visually challenged ) ?06:29
sobersabreis your card a supported one ?06:29
pmMike_I dont know what modem06:29
pmMike_I should have said, I've no idea what im doing.06:29
pmMike_how do I know if its a supported one06:30
sobersabreNightLord, do you believe they invented their own protocol ?06:30
sobersabrepmMike_, have you heard of HCL ?06:30
sobersabre[hardware compatibility list] 06:30
pmMike_...06:30
pmMike_no06:30
sobersabrego google people like you...06:30
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sobersabrei mean figure...06:31
sobersabretake thyself to see if it is supported one 1st. then come here...06:31
sobersabreok ?06:31
pmMike_ok06:31
zygazwnj: hmm?06:31
asad2005I have added the normal user manually and now it does not show in gdmsetup for timed login, any ideas?06:31
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zwnjzyga: """cvs co <TAB><TAB>""" doesn't read CVS/Root and just works if i use the ENVVAR06:32
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__learner__i will restart X now06:34
__learner__should I do just startX or init anynumber?06:34
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NightLordsober: its an Ipwireless modem06:34
NightLordthats all i can find out from looking at it06:35
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funkyHat__learner__, sudo gdm?06:35
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funkyHatsomeone tell me i'm right :)06:35
__learner__lol tx06:35
sobersabrefunkyHat, as long as u're happy, yes.06:35
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__learner__nvidia logo showed up!06:36
funkyHatlol06:36
__learner__now let`s try some openGl!!!06:36
funkyHatwoo 8)06:36
funkyHati'm right06:36
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aiodoes anyone know if i can plug two machines together over firewire (ubuntu to ubuntu) and have them able to talk to one another?  specifically, share files one to the other?  i hear it's possible with windows and mac.06:36
VictoR_VKHello,   - ?06:36
__learner__Tx a lot! Now I have openGLworking, and great nvidia drivers!06:36
__learner__bye bye!06:37
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funkyHathow did he get them working in the end? i missed that bit?06:37
zwnjzyga: i'm not sure it's a bug06:37
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ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a program that can "test" the surround card to see if it's working?06:37
Antinomydoes anyone else have trouble with DLing firefox extensions?06:38
funkyHati have trouble using firefox! :P06:38
Antinomyheh06:38
Antinomywel..06:38
funkyHatnew version is borked06:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea06:38
Antinomyboirked?06:38
despeehi have problems gettinh 1.0.6 version firefox with apt06:38
jurgonhHello, i am using beep-media-player to play mp3s, does anyone know how to make the files uncque when i doubleclick, instead of playing them, or if you could add "enqcue in beep"... when i rightclick them=06:38
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aiofunkyHat what prob you having?  mine seems borken too06:38
Antinomydamn06:38
Antinomyglad I'm keeping that windows partition06:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYseveas you there?06:39
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AntinomyfunkyHat: My friend, ready for the partition?06:39
despeehcan you guys download latest firefox version from breezy?06:39
funkyHatwon't start, someone who seemed very clever said they were working on it earlier :)... hopefully they will find out the problem soon06:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYwindows >.< i just reinstalled windows after 4 monthes of using inux06:39
funkyHatAntinomy, go for it06:39
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Antinomyokey-dok.06:39
Antinomydoke too.06:40
aiofunkyHat hope so.  it's whacked.06:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYlinux and it worked for three days and got boggie06:40
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Antinomyi changed the version number and it still wont let me DL extensions. gr.06:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYnow i just need to figure out how to test the surround sound and such in ubuntu06:40
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erchachehi06:40
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erchacheim trying to install a machine with netboot06:40
funkyHatAntinomy, where did you change the version number? general.useragent.....blah?06:40
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erchachebut when i select mirror06:41
erchachesay06:41
NightLorddoes anyone know any free MMORPG for linux?06:41
erchachedebian mirror invalid06:41
erchacheO_o06:41
zygaNightLord: there is one06:41
Antinomyabout config...it was off of the bug site, workaround #306:41
CarinArri was just installing the drivers for my motherboard and it exited the installation telling me i need to specify the kernel source path06:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYerchache is there an easy way to do that?06:41
zygaNightLord: I can't remember the name06:41
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jurgonhHello, i am using beep-media-player to play mp3s, does anyone know how to make the files uncque when i doubleclick, instead of playing them, or if you could add "enqcue in beep"... when i rightclick them=06:41
erchacheuhmm06:41
zygaNightLord: it's 1000% free and open source06:41
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erchachechurch_of _foamy: sorry?06:41
zygaNightLord: it required 3d card though06:41
funkyHatAntinomy, yeah, that's the correct workaround there, it should work after doing that06:42
CarinArrbut the bit it tried to do of the installation killed my network card, can i install the source from the ubuntu cd?06:42
AntinomyfunkyHat: hell no!06:42
NightLordhandy zyga06:42
AntinomyfunkyHat: lol06:42
funkyHat:(06:42
funkyHathows the install on the other machine going?06:42
AntinomyfunkyHat: ok funk, the install begins. light a candle, willya?06:42
funkyHathehe06:42
CarinArranyone?06:42
zygaNightLord: i can look it up though06:43
Antinomy<recites lords prayer>06:43
erchachenetboot runs properly?06:43
erchachebecause im triying to do it and fails06:43
erchachewhen select mirror06:43
AntinomyfunkyHat: should I let the installer detect my external, or can I plug and play once UbuRoi is running?06:43
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funkyHatum, i just let the installer do it's own thing until it asks me a question...06:44
funkyHat...what's UbiRoi?06:44
AntinomyfunkyHat: lol sry it's a play by Alfred Jarry06:45
zygaNightLord: eternal sun06:45
erchacheits strange because i install this laptop now with a install cd06:45
erchacheand update from internet06:45
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erchachenobody has information about ubuntu amd64 netboot fails?06:46
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Antinomyok06:47
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AntinomyfunkyHat: I'm at the partition settings screen for hda106:47
sobersabredo people actually use sylpheed ?06:47
AntinomyfunkyHat: how do I change the size?06:48
despeehdo you guys using unstable Breezy repositories?06:48
funkyHatgo to the size option, press enter, and type in the new size06:48
deFryskdespeeh, nope06:48
deFrysknot me that is06:48
darkmatterjurgonh: select open with other application06:48
despeehallways download forexample firefox latest version from mozilla.org?06:49
erchacheeyyyy netboot fails a lot....i see it on google?! :O06:49
AntinomyfunkyHat: hmmm the screen is blanking out06:49
deFryskdespeeh, nope never06:49
zerboxxIs there anyway to get it so clicking down on the scroll wheel works like it does in windows?06:49
despeehthen where? not from hoary06:49
despeeh?06:49
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darkmatterthen in the file properties06:49
deFryskdespeeh, wait till breezy comes out06:49
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darkmatterunder Open with06:49
qt2how do i find the hw idea of the sound card currently in use?06:50
deFryskthe version of hoary is fine for hoary06:50
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despeehdo you use only most hoary universe repos?06:50
despeehok06:50
tritiumqt2, look around under /proc/asound06:50
darkmatterselect beep-media-player as the prefered application06:50
AntinomyfunkyHat: I get a question: write the changes to disk and resize the partition? Yes, No....BUT I HAVEN"T SPECIFIED THE SIZE YET...this is worrisome...06:50
tritiumzerboxx, does the scroll wheel work for scrolling now?06:50
deFryskdespeeh, univers and multiverse , and if you like some updated packages to almost current use backports (not supported)06:50
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funkyHatAntinomy, are you sure you're on the right screen?06:51
Antinomyok06:51
AntinomyfunkyHat: from the top.06:51
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SternoHi all.  Anyone here that can help with a RAID1 question (setup of 2nd disk - the mirroring disk?)06:51
AntinomyI'm at the screen where I choose the partition06:51
funkyHatAntinomy, you need to highlight hda1, and hit return, you should then get a menu of options for hda106:51
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AntinomyfunkyHat: I choose #1 primary under hda06:51
despeehdeFrysk : one stupid question, but I dont know these things . if i have downloaded some updates from Breezy, then can i delete those all downloaded packages easilly somewhay?06:51
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zerboxxtritium: It works for scrolling, but with windows, if you click down on it it pops a little circle up, which you can then use to scroll differently (if mouse is above circle it goes up, and vice-versa)06:52
AntinomyfunkyHat: am i right?06:52
deFryskdespeeh, if they work fine leave them in06:52
deFryskno need to remove them then06:52
zerboxxtritium: Also for some reason, scrolling in Acrobat is horrible06:52
tritiumzerboxx, oh, I've not seen that before (I'm not a windows user)06:52
qt2tritium, mind if i pm you for a moment?06:52
zerboxxtritium: Ah well not a big deal, really06:52
funkyHatAntinomy, are you on the partition editor? or are you choosing which partition to install linux to?06:52
Tobaarghhhh06:52
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Tobaanother london bombing06:53
Tobawtf06:53
tritiumqt2, sure, go ahead06:53
AntinomyfunkyHat: "you are editing partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda)."06:53
despeehok06:53
funkyHatok06:53
AntinomyfunkyHat: then it gives me 3 options: use as, bootable, and size06:53
erchachenetboot fails when triying to download release package06:53
erchachewhy?06:53
deFryskdespeeh, but breezy is not what you can call "stable" also see topic06:53
AntinomyfunkyHat: I toggle down to "size"06:53
despeehbut you say, that I dont neet to install my ubuntu 5.04 Hoary again, there is possibility allways to repair this machine06:53
funkyHatok, leave the bootable flag on, go to size06:53
AntinomyfunkyHat: hit enter?06:53
despeehneed06:53
AntinomyfunkyHat: k, hit enter?06:54
funkyHatyes06:54
AntinomyfunkyHat: ok, it never asks me for a new size, it just says the following:06:54
despeehmaybe I should study ubuntu homepages a bit. Just have installed this ubuntu .. dont even know differences of these versions06:55
deFryskdespeeh, i dont see the need no , but i would not upgrade to breezy untill its concidered "safe"06:55
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funkyHatAntinomy, i'm just starting up an install on another machine so i'm not doing this blind06:55
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AntinomyfunkyHat: "before the resize takes place, the changes have to be written do disk...write the changes and resize? Yes, No"06:56
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funkyHatoh right06:56
funkyHatyes06:56
AntinomyfunkyHat: BUT - it hasn't asked me for the new size yet. does that come next?06:56
funkyHatoh :S06:56
erchachenobody knows why netboot cant download release gz?06:56
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funkyHatanyone else know? ^^06:56
SternoHi all. Anyone here that can help with a RAID1 question (setup of 2nd disk - the mirroring disk?)06:57
SternoI have 2 SATA disks.  I want to use RAID1.06:57
SternoDisk 1 is formatted as:06:57
Sterno1 100Mb \boot06:57
Sterno2 5Gb SWAP06:57
Sterno3 60Gb \06:57
Sterno4 25Gb \SRV06:57
Sterno5 260Gb \SRV06:57
SternoHow should disk 2 be set up?  This disk will be a mirror of disk 1.06:57
SternoThe possibilities are: The same way (=same partitions, and same file formatting) as disk 1, or same partitions + RAID formatting, or just 1 partition + RAID formatting, or what?06:57
SternoAnyone?06:57
deFrysksame06:57
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AntinomyI dunno, this is worrisome.06:57
Sterno= no RAID formatting needed?06:58
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AntinomyfunkyHat: should I wait til you see yours?06:58
ArdieMive installed ati binarydriver06:58
funkyHati'm almost there, i'm loading the installer on a rather sluggish computer06:58
zerboxxI have a keyboard with volume control, but when I use it, I can see a volume bar going up/down, but it's actually turning up/down my capture volume, how can I make it so it's actually changing the playback volume???06:58
ArdieMnow i only have 75hz i want 8506:58
AntinomyfunkyHat: k, thanks so much man06:58
ArdieMwhat to do?06:58
AntinomyfunkyHat: or woman06:58
funkyHathehe, man06:58
ArdieMin system->prefs->monitorsettings i get an error06:58
AntinomyfunkyHat: I would do it on my desktop, but I'm using it to IRC now06:59
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Antinomysystem>prefs>gender06:59
ColonelKernelArdieM, go into /etc/X11/xorg.conf , in the Monitor section, turn the refresh rates up06:59
funkyHathere we go06:59
Antinomyk06:59
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qt2 /media is a /mnt replacment, correct?07:00
kamilyes07:00
funkyHatwell i get the same thing you just described... wants to write changes before resizing07:00
qt2ok.07:00
funkyHatso i assume it's ok07:00
ArdieMXRandR-Expansion <--- where can i turn that off?07:01
Antinomyare you doing this on a junk disk, or should I take the plunge?07:01
funkyHatcan someone tell me i'm right? i don't want to be responsible for breaking Antinomy's computer :(07:01
Antinomylol07:01
AntinomyAll: I am about to resize, but I haven't specified the new size yet.07:01
Antinomydoes that come next?07:02
AntinomyfunkyHat: "before the resize takes place, the changes have to be written do disk...write the changes and resize? Yes, No"07:02
mjrqt2, kinda; it's for removable media, mostly07:02
AntinomyfunkyHat: BUT - it hasn't asked me for the new size yet. does that come next?07:02
AntinomyThat's the question, all07:02
Antinomyanyone know?07:02
qt2mjr, what about for automounting windows filesystems?07:02
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zerboxxAnyone have a clue how to change what 'channel' the audio buttons on my keyboard change?07:03
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qt2zerboxx, such as pcm as opposed to master?07:03
funkyHati want to do that too!07:03
AntinomyfunkyHat: how else could I edit the size from that original screen?07:04
qt2funkyHat, do what?07:04
mjrqt2, that I'd put under /mnt07:04
zerboxxqt2: Umm yeah actually, that's it :)07:04
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qt2zerboxx, i'm trying to figure that out myself...07:04
funkyHatAntinomy, i don't think you can, that's the way to do it07:04
Antinomyok07:04
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Antinomyhere we go07:04
zerboxxqt2: heh, well if you happen to figure it out, please let me know :) and I'll do the same07:04
funkyHatwe could check with #debian07:04
qt2zerboxx, thanks. ;)07:04
Antinomybrb07:04
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ColonelKernelim having a problem with firefox07:05
ColonelKernelwhen I click on something to download, it doesnt download it07:05
ColonelKernelit doesnt ask me or anything07:05
liquidtenit's one of several bugs in the new firefox07:05
robotgeekqt2, zeedo if you gimme a minute or two, i think i have it figured out, (or ler me see if i have it figured out :) )07:06
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tritiumzerboxx, only the Master channel07:06
qt2robotgeek, heh, okay.07:06
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zerboxxtritium: There must be a way to make it change pcm (same with my laptop hotkeys)07:07
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qt2tritium, heh, same problem i had earlier... ;)07:07
tritiumWe looked at that yesterday, and couldn't find a way.  Was that you I was working with, qt2 on taht?07:07
tritiumthat07:07
ColonelKernelnew firefox?07:07
robotgeekzeedo, are you using pbbuttons?07:07
qt2tritium, indeed.07:07
infoxanyone have any tips for getting a cirrus logic cs46xx working in ubuntu? I have all the necessary alsa/sound drivers loaded, I unmuted all the channels and yet I still have no sound07:07
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ColonelKernelits version 1.0.207:07
infoxi'm lost at what else I can do07:07
ColonelKernelits not even now07:07
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ColonelKernelits OLD07:07
AmaranthColonelKernel: It's secure.07:08
tritiumColonelKernel, read /usr/share/doc/mozilla-firefox/changelog.Debian.gz07:08
zerboxxrobotgeek: Are you refering to me? or zeedo?07:08
despeeh1.0.6 , just downloaded it from Breezy07:08
Dr00pYre tout lemonde07:08
Amaranth1.0.6 is probably the version breezy is going to ship with07:08
tritiumrobotgeek, you had asked me sometime back about IRC logs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/07:08
ColonelKerneltritium, unfortunately, because firefox no longer works correctly, I have no way to look at that.07:08
liquidtenColonelKernel: the version of firefox IS actually 1.0.5, you probably downloaded the update for it today, it's just the fact that the ubuntu devs for some reason chose not to rename the version07:08
AmaranthColonelKernel: pitti said it's only broken until you restart07:09
tritiumColonelKernel, it's in your filesystem.  You should be able to.07:09
zeedozeedo: I beleive its you mate  - Im not in the discussion here atm07:09
jurgonhHello, i am using beep-media-player to play mp3s, does anyone know how to make the files encque when i doubleclick, instead of playing them, or if you could add "enqcue in beep..." when i rightclick them=07:09
zeedozerboxx:  I beleive its you mate  - Im not in the discussion here atm07:09
zerboxxzeedo: hehe you refered to yourself too, it's alright :D07:09
ColonelKernelAmaranth, restart the box or restart firefox?07:09
liquidtenif you search on ubuntuforums.org you will see a LOT of people are having trouble with the new firefox07:09
robotgeekzerboxx, sorry07:09
qt2robotgeek, i'm using System > Prefrences > Keyboard Shortcuts07:09
zeedozerboxx: :-P07:09
funkyHatAmaranth, is that really likely? surely it will have been updated again by then?07:09
AmaranthColonelKernel: Wasn't clear.07:09
infoxanyone have any ideas?07:09
AmaranthfunkyHat: well, hopefully not :)07:09
robotgeekzeedo, sorry07:09
robotgeek:)07:09
funkyHatwell true, but still :P07:09
AmaranthfunkyHat: but breezy won't have 1.1/1.507:09
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zeedorobotgeek: no worries Im made the same mistake, stupid tab completion :D07:10
zerboxxrobotgeek: It's alright, no I'm not using pbbuttons07:10
funkyHatAmaranth, it isn't only broken until you restart (firefox or system)07:10
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Amaranthhave any of you filed a bug report?07:10
infoxhello??07:10
ColonelKernelyeah, it is just broken - how do I roll back an update?07:10
Amaranthoh, right07:10
Amaranthfirefox messed up, can't open bugzilla :007:11
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Burgundaviait seems to be specific extensions are breaking FF07:11
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funkyHati would but i don't like filing bugs... i always do it wrong :(07:11
liquidtenif the package is still on your system you should see it in /var/cache/apt/archives07:11
AmaranthBurgundavia: Oh shit, I hope pitti didn't use 1.0.5 to get patches for hoary.07:11
infoxbah07:11
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infoxhas anyone ever got this sound card to work in ubuntu?07:11
robotgeekzerboxx, pbbuttons gave me options to change stuff, as in master/pcm, but the gnome tool doesn't07:11
AmaranthBurgundavia: That was why 1.0.6 was rushed out, 1.0.5 had an API regression caused by a security fix.07:11
liquidtenexactly07:12
BurgundaviaAmaranth, he said he was looking at .6 stuff07:12
liquidtenthe version we all updated was to 1.0.5 not 1.0.607:12
infox...07:12
liquidtenyou can tell because the extension bugs that caused 1.0.6 to be released are in this build07:12
Amaranthliquidten: No, you have 1.0.2 + security fixes07:12
ColonelKernelwell, w/o some kind of fix for this, firefox is pretty much worthless and unusable07:12
AmaranthColonelKernel: It is being worked on.07:13
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tritiumColonelKernel, did you look in /var/cache/apt/archives for the old one?07:13
ColonelKernelAmaranth, ok , thanks, sorry if I was bein jerky07:13
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ColonelKernelthe only one i had was the one ubuntu 5.04 installs with07:13
AmaranthColonelKernel: If you want it to work _right now_ you can wipe out your profile.07:13
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zerboxxrobotgeek: Ah, well should I still use it, even though all the keys it "fixes" works on my laptop already (ie brightness, volume (even though it's the wrong one, the bar still moves)...not eject though, or crt/lcd07:13
infoxanyone have any tips for getting a cirrus logic cs46xx working in ubuntu? I have all the necessary alsa/sound drivers loaded, I unmuted all the channels and yet I still have no sound07:13
AmaranthColonelKernel: You'll lose bookmarks, history, extensions, saved passwords, etc.07:14
ColonelKernelAmaranth, ill wait, its being worked on07:14
ColonelKerneloh I dont care at all about that stuff07:14
funkyHatany idea how long it will take to fix anyone?07:14
AmaranthColonelKernel: Ok then, open a terminal and run 'rm -rf ~/.mozilla'07:14
liquidtenyou can backup your bookmarks by doing a "cp ~/.mozilla/firefox/PROFILE/bookmarks.html ~"07:15
liquidtenthen rm -rf ~/.mozilla07:15
infoxanyone have any tips for getting a cirrus logic cs46xx working in ubuntu? I have all the necessary alsa/sound drivers loaded, I unmuted all the channels and yet I still have no sound07:15
ColonelKernelI dont have any bookmarks07:15
robotgeekzerboxx, i'll brb, gotta email :)07:15
zerboxxrobotgeek: heh alright07:15
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tritiumrobotgeek, did you see my msg?07:15
erchachewell i download netboot install from ubuntu ftp server and fails.....officially netboot doesnt run :S07:15
infoxanyone have any tips for getting a cirrus logic cs46xx working in ubuntu? I have all the necessary alsa/sound drivers loaded, I unmuted all the channels and yet I still have no sound07:16
tritiuminfox, please stop repeating07:16
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ColonelKerneltritium, it looks like the original versions are in there...07:16
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tritiumColonelKernel, you can install it, then07:16
infoxwell shit, no one seems to even bother trying to help at all07:16
tritiuminfox, please calm down.  If somebody knows the answer, they'll try to help you.07:16
liquidteninfox: well it's not like everyone knows everything07:16
ColonelKernelmozilla-firefox_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.4_i386.deb <--- is this the one that comes with ubuntu?07:16
Amaranthinfox: Because we don't know.07:16
infoxthats all you had to fucking say07:16
AmaranthColonelKernel: Doesn't sound like it.07:16
rommerif i have two p2 350mhz computers, would a page load faster if apache and mysql were installed on separate computers or the same one?07:16
infoxinstead of wasting my everyones time07:17
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Amaranthinfox: Please don't swear.07:17
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ColonelKernelexcrement07:17
Amaranthinfox: We aren't wasting anyone's time.07:17
BurgundaviaColonelKernel, that it the one that pitti just released07:17
liquidtenColonelKernel: that is the one you updated to today07:17
ColonelKernelliquidten, hence my use of the term excrement.07:17
robotgeektritium, yes. sorry...emailing!07:17
tritiumrobotgeek, no problem :)07:17
ColonelKernelwell someone please do me a favor and have a chat w pitti07:19
AntinomyfunkyHat: well, that was a bust07:19
ColonelKernelcause this firefox is pittiful07:19
BurgundaviaColonelKernel, we are07:19
pittiDudes, I *know* about the issues07:19
qt2rommer, #apache could probably answer that better. ;)07:19
funkyHatAntinomy, eek07:19
AntinomyfunkyHat: dont know what to do.07:19
ColonelKernelBurgundavia, I was just trying to be a comedian :)07:19
AntinomyAmaranth: can I ask you a partition/resize ?07:20
rommerqt2: yea i just pasted it there ;)07:20
AmaranthAntinomy: wha?07:20
funkyHatwhat happens when you go say yes to that question Antinomy ?07:20
qt2robotgeek,  pbbuttons == ?07:20
AmaranthAntinomy: get gparted07:20
Antinomy?07:20
Amaranthqt2: a tool to make multimedia buttons on your powerbook work07:20
qt2Amaranth, ah.07:20
qt2so that wouldnt help me :/07:20
qt2meh... *kicks multimedia keyboard*07:21
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ColonelKernelbrb07:21
qt2on second thought... *kicks gnome volume control*07:21
AmaranthI never knew people actually used those things07:21
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qt2or even better... *kicks gnome shortcuts applet for lacking customizablilty*07:21
Amarantherr07:21
samuis this mplayer-custom thing supposed to work?07:21
Amaranthwhat does it lack?07:22
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qt2Amaranth, heh, the volume keys are hanady. ;)07:22
Amaranthsamu: what processor do you have?07:22
liquidtenColonelKernel:  in the meantime i would recommend you download the official firefox build with "wget ftp://mozilla.ussg.indiana.edu/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.0.6/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-1.0.6.installer.tar.gz" and install it into your home directory07:22
samupentium 3/60007:22
AntinomyAmaranth: I'm installing Ubuntu. I want to resize my XP partition (the only one right now) and then add others for linux and fat32 shared. I select partition one on hda, and then select "size" . But instead of asking me for the size, it just sends me to a "Write the changes to disk and rezie the partition?" screen. I havent entered the new size. Will that come next?07:22
qt2Amaranth, err, an option to allow the volume control to set something other than the 'master' channel, for example, allowing the volume control to set the 'PCM' channel?07:22
Amaranthsamiam: get mplayer-686 (or mplayer-586, can't remember the name)07:22
mjr;3~3~;3~;3~;3~;3~;3~;3~;3~07:23
Amaranthsamu: ^^^07:23
ColonelKernelliquidten, very nice - thank you07:23
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no0ticevolution doesn't filter spam properly...07:23
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samui tried installing mplayer-586 but i think i must be lacking some repositories for it07:23
Amaranthqt2: oh, you mean the slider on gnome-volume-control07:23
bagpuss_thecathey all, is there any way in Hoary to get w32codecs without having to rely on backports from mirrormax.net?07:23
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Amaranthsamu: You're on hoary and have multiverse enabled?07:23
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Amaranthbagpuss_thecat: w32codecs will never be in an official ubuntu repository07:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYi have a customer thats interested in ubuntu but they do html/webpage editing07:24
AntinomyfunkyHat: I guess the only way is to try it on a junk disk and see what happens. No one seems to know the answer...07:24
Amaranthbagpuss_thecat: They are _highly_ illegal to use and distribute.07:24
AmaranthChurcH_of_FoamY: nvu?07:24
qt2Amaranth, no, i can set that to change pcm, i'm talking about the gnome keyboard shortcut thing, i've got my multimedia keys mapped to it, and it only chnages the mater slider, and dowsnt allow for changing of anything else.07:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYand they play on pogo.com can ubuntu do these things07:24
AntinomyfunkyHat: so I will brb, need to do it on my desktop07:24
bagpuss_thecatno doubt, that's why they're not in Debian :-)07:24
AntinomyfunkyHat: wish me luck (again)07:24
bagpuss_thecatI guess I just have to specify them manually on my mirrormax deb line?07:24
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ChurcH_of_FoamYAmaranth huh?07:25
AmaranthChurcH_of_FoamY: i dunno about pogo.com07:25
funkyHatAntinomy, good luck :)07:25
AmaranthChurcH_of_FoamY: it might use shockwave, which we don't have07:25
Amaranthbagpuss_thecat: not sure07:25
bagpuss_thecatcos using the deb line from ubuntuguide make the system want to use samba and a load of others from mirrormax07:25
qt2ChurcH_of_FoamY, nvu is a good html editor.07:25
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bagpuss_thecatnw07:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYreally? i thought it requres java?07:25
ColonelKernelwhoah - firefox 1.0.6 is screaming fast07:25
Amaranthbagpuss_thecat: do not use ubuntuguide07:26
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bagpuss_thecatAmaranth: ooh, what's wrong with it?07:26
qt2ChurcH_of_FoamY, if it requires java, then all you need to do is setup java for firefox.07:26
Amaranth!ubuntuguide07:26
ColonelKernelI wish I knew how to make .deb's07:26
uboturumour has it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.07:26
qt2bagpuss_thecat,  ^^^07:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYk the current how to does not let me get java for firefox07:26
bagpuss_thecataaah, fairy nuff :-D07:26
qt2ChurcH_of_FoamY, which is that?07:27
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tritiumChurcH_of_FoamY, the Java wiki page?07:27
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ChurcH_of_FoamYcan someone paste me the part of there sources.list so i can get the sun-java07:27
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ChurcH_of_FoamYyes07:27
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AmaranthChurcH_of_FoamY: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java07:27
tritiumChurcH_of_FoamY, you used make-jpkg?07:27
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ChurcH_of_FoamYnot recently07:27
darkmatterUbuntuGuide would be OK if the maintainer actual explained his instructions in detail.07:28
AmaranthRabidDog: If you don't like it turn off wallops.07:28
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi want to test this with pogo.com first to see if it works07:28
brendan_I recieve this message whenever i try to install updates Errors were encountered while processing:  gedit-common07:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYif it does there all for it07:28
brendan_little help?07:28
darkmatterthe current setup could get newbies in trouble07:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i hope it does cause that will be the 5th customer to get ubuntu from me07:28
qt2ChurcH_of_FoamY, if it uses jaba, you need to get java working to test pogo.com...07:28
qt2*java07:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea i know thats why i need to get java up and running07:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat way they can use it if it works07:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYbut i want to get it running on my box first07:29
tritiumthe wiki instructions are the best way, ChurcH_of_FoamY07:29
qt2ChurcH_of_FoamY, then follow the wiki.07:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYok07:30
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Trackilizerare there any other good IRC clients out there other than x-chat?07:31
tritiumirssi07:31
bagpuss_thecatAmaranth: thanks for the info. A quick google with 'codecs site:wiki.ubuntu.com' solved the problem :-)07:32
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm must be missing something in my repos07:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYit can't find the java pacage07:33
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tritium!info java-package07:33
ubotujava-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.23 (hoary), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 264 kB07:33
knowledge_Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System' <----anyone wanna help with this?07:33
tritiummultiverse, ChurcH_of_FoamY07:33
knowledge_I screwed something up07:33
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Amaranthknowledge_: System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector, change input and output sinks to alsa07:34
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knowledge_Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'07:34
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dbwthat sounds bad07:35
dbw:P07:35
dbw</useless>07:35
funkyHatknowledge_, tried eSound?07:35
knowledge_ESD works...but here's the thing, yesterday I installed my USB headset,07:35
Amaranthesound?07:35
knowledge_and now I just want everythin to be back to normal07:35
knowledge_OSS was what worked at first, and now it's esd?07:35
dbwknowledge_: yu installed it...meaning you just plugged it in?07:36
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dbwknowledge_: or did you install sw as well07:36
Amaranthall i know about that situation is that it's a breezy goal to make it Just Work07:36
funkyHatYAY07:36
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AntinomyfunkyHat: you there man?07:36
knowledge_dbw, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-18926.html07:36
funkyHatAntinomy, hi07:37
knowledge_I just followed that07:37
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Thewarmachinelinux games07:37
Thewarmachinegood ones07:37
Thewarmachinelist a few07:37
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qt2Thewarmachine, tux racer?07:37
BurgundaviaThewarmachine, there is a good thread in the forum07:38
Thewarmachinegot it07:38
zwnjcrack-attack07:38
funkyHathere's my list of good linux games:07:38
Thewarmachinereally?07:38
mauperpowermanga ;)07:38
Thewarmachinemauper I love that one07:38
mauperquite okay for that type of game it is ...07:39
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Thewarmachinetrue07:39
mauper(esp. on a zaurus ;))07:39
Antinomylol07:39
Thewarmachinefunkyhat im lookin forward to your list07:39
ChurcH_of_FoamY!java07:39
ubotuhmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.07:39
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jason__hello07:39
funkyHatThewarmachine, um.... that was it07:39
Antinomylollol07:39
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AntinomyI got it, funk07:40
Thewarmachinelol07:40
funkyHat8)07:40
mauper!bla07:40
ubotuI haven't a clue, mauper07:40
mauper;)07:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYok now i'm lost at the second part of this can someone help me?07:40
Thewarmachinehahaha07:40
jason__just wanted to know why my port 80 could be closed..i forwarded it, and i know my isp doesn't block it.07:40
despeehHow do I use "Broken" filter?07:40
AntinomyfunkyHat: My favorite game is trying to resize partitions07:40
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Thewarmachinelol antinomy07:40
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Antinomyheh07:40
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funkyHatAntinomy, that one has a bug, if you loose, it wipes all your data. i hope they fix itin the next release07:40
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ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm having trouble underastanding a part of this howto07:41
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ChurcH_of_FoamYif i can get past this part then i'll be able to do the rest07:41
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Gouramisilly question, what is the command to copy a file in a terminal ?07:42
setuidHow do I switch the default Ubuntu window manager from metacity to Sawfish?07:42
HammanDo I need to have "fetchmail" and "postfix" running on a desktop Ubuntu installation?07:42
SeveasGourami, cp07:42
funkyHatAntinomy, how's the install going?07:42
Gouramithanks07:42
Antinomyfunky lol07:42
SeveasHamman, fetchmail not, postfix (or another mta) yes07:42
SeveasHamman, for breezy the MTA requirement will be dropped07:42
AntinomyfunkyHat: Testing out the same process on an old junk desktop HD07:42
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funkyHatok :)07:43
knowledge_echo "options snd_intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base  Can someone explain this command?07:43
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AntinomyfunkyHat: although it occurs to me that if I resized it to 60 GB, basically nothing would change.07:43
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ChurcH_of_FoamY!java07:43
ubotusomebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.07:43
knowledge_what does the | mean and what is ?tee -a"?07:43
taz_Anyone wanna help me with a pretty simple MRTG question?07:43
Seveasknowledge_, that simply sets an option for a driver07:43
setuidAnyone?07:43
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Seveasknowledge_, | sudo tee -a means: append this to a file as root07:44
AntinomyfunkyHat: jesus, this sucks.07:44
funkyHatAntinomy, it could break it just as easily as it would resizing it smaller though ;)07:44
knowledge_Seveas, aha I see.07:44
funkyHatwhat? taking forever?07:44
dupshas anyone exeperienced firefox crashing after instaling the libflash plugin when trying to view flash pages?07:44
knowledge_Seveas, so it doesn't change anything but it does add a line into alsa-base?07:44
taz_setuid, well.. somebody then...07:44
Thewarmachineknowledge thats weird07:44
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Seveasknowledge_, it adds a line to the alsa-base driver configuration indeed07:44
funkyHatdups, we've experienced firefox crashing doing everything :) latest ubuntu firefox release is broken07:44
AntinomyfunkyHat: no, I'm just trying to try it out on my old desktop crap disks but it can't see them - something about the master/slave pin arrangements I dont understand07:45
knowledge_Seveas, I see07:45
dupsfunkyhat: is there a version I can downgrade to?07:45
Seveasknowledge_, it will have effect next time the driver is loaded07:45
Seveas(like when you reboot)07:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYedit /usr/share/java-package/sun-j2sdk.sh to reflect the actual JDK 1.5 release version.07:45
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taz_setuid, i have sum output from mrtg.log .. an errormessage.. can i /msg it to you?07:45
funkyHatdups, don't know07:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYdoes it want me to create that or what?07:45
setuidtaz_: no07:45
knowledge_now I wonder why my sound is using ESD instead of OSS...like it originaly did07:45
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ChurcH_of_FoamYcause it dosen't exist right now07:45
Hammananother question about services: Do I need to have booth "klogd" and sysklogd running? They seem to do about the same thing...07:45
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, huh??07:45
Seveasthat instruction is awkward07:45
dupsyeah, it's annoying as hell, I was able to get it to work by just removing the flash library but I still want to see flash haha07:45
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm trying to follow the java how to07:45
taz_setuid, ok07:46
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 07:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat ubotu gave me07:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYum ok07:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat works07:46
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Seveasthat should work for sun java versions op to 1.507:46
robotgeektritium, sorry i took so long. pine doesn't do well over wireless connections!07:47
taz_Have a problem here with MRTG.. The mrtg.log outputs the following message (since im a n00b i need help with this) -> ERROR: Mrtg will most likely not work propperly when the environment variable LANG is set to UTF-8. Please run mrtg in an environment  where this is not the case:  env LANG=C /usr/bin/mrtg ...07:47
robotgeekzerboxx, did u figure something out?07:47
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funkyHatAntinomy, do you have 2 things on the same IDE controller?07:48
taz_UTF-8 .. Isent that the time zone settings??07:48
Seveastaz_, no07:48
Seveasit's character set settings07:48
taz_ah07:48
Seveas <-- if that looks like an e with accent. you have UTF-807:49
taz_Seveas, so in crontab can i just enter "env LANG=C" before the mrtg bin file?07:49
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Seveasyou should run mrtg with: env LANG=C mrtg07:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas it gives an error message when doing the jpkg part07:49
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knowledge_is there a difference with wether my sound card uses Alsa, OSS, or ESD? or should I really not care?07:49
AntinomyfunkyHat: no, I keep plugging in different disks07:49
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, which error?07:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYmake: *** No rule to make target `jpkg'.  Stop07:49
Seveasknowledge_, on Ubuntu esd is the default07:49
jason__any idea why port 80 is blocked if its been forawrded and my isp doesnt block it?07:49
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, make-jpkg not make jpkg07:49
knowledge_Seveas, oh no kidding07:49
Dr00pY_UbuntuCfgune chose qui me parrait dommage c'est la page de demarrage de firefox (file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html)07:50
knowledge_Seveas, I thought it was oss since that was what worked before I did that how to07:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok07:50
knowledge_Seveas, that's good to know07:50
knowledge_thank you07:50
funkyHatAntinomy, there should be a setting on all the discs for 'one drive only'07:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYshane@FoamY:~/Desktop$ fakeroot make jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin07:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYmake: *** No rule to make target `jpkg'.  Stop.07:50
dupsjason__ how so I work for an ISP07:50
Seveasknowledge_, and there is a big difference: oss is deprecated, alsa is using the raw sound device and esd is an absstraction layer using a sound server07:50
Antinomysingle, I know07:50
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Antinomyit doesnt work07:50
funkyHattry master then07:50
Antinomythat either07:50
AntinomyLOL07:50
funkyHati'm off now07:50
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*.bin07:50
Dr00pY_UbuntuCfgelle est pas en francais07:51
Antinomyonly the slave setting worked lol07:51
setuidChanging the wm in gconf-editor and restarting X/gdm didn't help07:51
knowledge_Seveas, making esd better?07:51
funkyHati'll be back at around 11 BST if you're still here ;)07:51
AntinomyfunkyHat: THANK YOU SO MUCH07:51
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zerboxxrobotgeek: Nope07:51
Seveasknowledge_, esd is the default on hoary, try to stick to it07:51
taz_Seveas, like this then: 0-55/5 *        * * *   root    if [ -x /usr/bin/mrtg ]  && [ -r /etc/mrtg.cfg ] ; then env LANG=C /usr/bin/mrtg /etc/mrtg.cfg >> /var/log/mrtg/mrtg.log 2>&1; fi07:51
jason__dups, i am just saying that my port 80 is blocked, and my isp doesnt block it and i forwarded, and yet it cannot be seen.07:51
Seveasknowledge_, for breezy it will be reverted to alsa + dmix07:51
robotgeekzerboxx, same here :(07:51
knowledge_gotcha Seveas07:51
AntinomyfunkyHat:07:51
Seveastaz_, looks good07:51
dupsjason__,  where did you forward it, in ubuntu or from a router07:51
funkyHatAntinomy, no problem, hope you get it working. kudos for persevering for so long07:51
AntinomyfunkyHat: wait 2 secs you'll hear the answer07:51
robotgeekzerboxx, but, atleast the volume control works, with some configuring07:52
taz_Seveas, thx for beeing supportive :D07:52
knowledge_Seveas, I keep hearing so much about this breezy...when's it comming out07:52
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Thewarmachineon that specific intel card you will have to switch between alsa and esd07:52
jason__dups, i forwarded it from my router07:52
Seveasknowledge_, october07:52
knowledge_Seveas, cool07:52
Seveasknowledge_, ubuntu has a release every 6 months, so every october and april07:52
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AntinomyfunkyHat: it asks on the next screen!07:52
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zerboxxrobotgeek: The volume control does work, just not for pcm which is what i would like (since master does nothing)07:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYSeavas is it normal to get access denied errors when your making the file?07:52
dupsjason__, hmm that is strange, you forwarded 80 to your IP and it doesn't come through, stupid question do you have remote administration on that may be running on port 8007:52
SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, yes07:52
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok cool07:52
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SeveasChurcH_of_FoamY, if you do fakeroot make-jpkg you might get access denied errors about files in /etc and that's a good thing07:53
knowledge_and to think that if it wasn't for distrowatch...I wouldn't have known about Ubuntu07:53
robotgeekzerboxx, i meant the volume control in the notification area07:53
Seveasbut to be sure: paste the errors in a pastebin :)07:53
AntinomyfunkyHat: lol and it lets you go back anyway07:53
Antinomyehhehe07:53
sobersabrestrange !07:53
Seveasknowledge_, hehe :)07:53
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mridlea friend has problem setting correct res. for his flatscreen.. any ideas ? is there some tools fro this?07:53
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Seveasmridle: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:53
sobersabreafter upgrading mozilla-firefox, i get it dead each time i press Ctl+T07:53
sobersabrewhy is that!?!?!?!07:54
jason__dups, no...the weird thing is that i tried out a few OSs, including debian, winodws, and i finally settled on ubuntu, and ubuntu is the only one that has blocked it.07:54
mridlethx07:54
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doonzhey guys i just installed a amd 64 chip07:54
Seveasjason__, try sudo iptables -L to see whether it block07:54
Antinomybrb07:54
doonzis there something i should install if i used the i386 install cd?07:54
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Seveasjason__, with sudo netstat -tlnp you can see which program (if any) uses port 8007:54
sean13_when will firefox 1.0.5 be in Ubuntu?07:54
Xannixyeah i am getting segmentation fault when entering a web address after the mozill-firefox upgrade07:55
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Seveasdoonz, if you want to use the 64bit version of ubuntu you will have to reinstall07:55
Seveassean13_, never07:55
sobersabresean13_, ubuntu uses backported firefox.07:55
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Seveassean13_, 1.0.6 is there already07:55
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doonzSeveas is there any real performance benefeit?07:55
Seveasand for hoary all security fixes are applied to 1.0.207:55
clotariusO suis-je ?07:55
Seveasdoonz, depends07:55
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clotariusOu suis-je ?07:56
doonzi just do basic office stuff with my comp07:56
Seveasclotarius, le canal #ubuntu est anglophone...07:56
sobersabreSeveas, when is firefox 1.0.6 out ?07:56
Seveassobersabre, 2 days ago (hit breezy today)07:56
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sobersabrehm... why isn't hoary updated ... ?07:56
_frankthe ubuntu firefox upgrade today is broken though07:56
Seveassobersabre, it is07:56
Seveas_frank, hoary or breezy?07:56
clotariusQuel canal pour le franais ?07:56
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_frankhoary07:56
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Seveasclotarius, #ubuntu-fr07:56
sobersabrewhere ? which repos ?07:56
jason__dups, for netstat -tlnp, i get 5 tcp addresses07:57
clotariusmerci07:57
unkferwhy hoary?07:57
Seveassobersabre, hoary-security07:57
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unkferaaam07:57
gustahi07:57
qt2brb07:57
unkferhi gusta07:57
jason__dups, they all are in the state of LISTEN07:57
unkferfrom spain?07:57
sobersabreSeveas, which section ?! ???07:57
taz_frensh guys.. cannot speak a WORD english.. lol07:57
Seveassobersabre, main :)07:57
sobersabream i missing a section ?!07:57
sobersabrewow...07:57
sobersabrelemme see07:57
Seveassobersabre: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3807:57
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jason__dups, i do not see port 80 anywhere07:58
Seveasjason__, have you installed a web server ?07:58
Seveasjason__, if so, is it running?07:58
jason__saveas, yes i have..i put on apache07:58
SDFH_Linuxanyone have an opinion on freebsd compared to linux07:58
jason__saveas, yes i have..i installed the httpd source file07:58
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Seveasjason__, put the output of sudo netstat -tlnp on paste.ubuntulinux.nl please07:58
knowledge_that is awesome...I'm happy I found this distro, maybe it's the gnome default...or maybe it's just better, but mandrake was NOT cutting it07:59
Seveasjason__, how did you install apache? with aptitide/apt-get/synaptic?07:59
jason__seveas, okay, but how do i get to paste.ubuntulinux.nl?07:59
Seveasjason__, it's a website :)07:59
Seveashttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:59
jason__Seveas, i sent ti08:00
jason__Seveas, i sent it08:00
robotgeekhmm...i like xchat, it's got a very nice easy to use interface08:00
sobersabreSeveas, i don't see any 1.0.6 ...08:00
sobersabreyou're bullshitting me.08:00
sobersabrenice08:01
mumblesgone08:01
sobersabrehope it is fun.08:01
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Seveassobersabre, you must have misunderstood me: 1.0.6 is in breezy, hoary has 1.0.2 with all security patches applied08:01
Seveasjason__, apache isn't started08:01
sobersabreis breezy usable at all now ?08:01
Kyral1.0.6 isn't in breezy yet08:01
Seveasjason__, sudo invoke-rc.d apache start08:01
KyralI just checked08:01
Seveassobersabre, X is still broken08:01
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naliothsobersabre: if you are a dev08:01
sobersabrei am, but not of ubuntu ;-] 08:02
Antinomyhey all - my workspaces and application buttons just disappeared from my task bar...any ideas08:02
SeveasKyral, it is...08:02
Antinomy?08:02
robotgeekAntinomy, your panel disappeared?08:02
sobersabreanybody seen this strange thing: firefox crashes after Ctl+T is pressed!08:02
sobersabre?08:02
KyralSeveas, then why does the firefox entry on the package list list 1.0.5?08:02
naliothAntinomy: put em back08:02
Antinomyno, it's there, and has trash.08:03
zerboxxsobersabre: Doesn't happen with my firefox08:03
jason__seveas, it says "Unknown initscript, etc/init.d/apache not found08:03
SeveasKyral, hang on...08:03
Antinomyrobotgeek: but the apps I have open aren't showing in it08:03
_franksobersabre: that's because the hoary-security update of firefoz is broken08:03
robotgeeksobersabre, it just opens up a new tab for me!08:03
Seveasjason__, hang on...08:03
sobersabre_frank, shite! how do i revert ?08:03
KyralI should know, I backported it for my personal use last night :D08:03
_franksobersabre: it craps out on alot of extensions ad themes08:03
robotgeekAntinomy, weird!08:03
jason__Seveas, so your saying apache2 must be started before port 80 can be opened?08:03
Seveasjason__, sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start08:04
sobersabre_frank, it did i think.... so ...what can be done to quickly restore functionality ?08:04
Antinomynalioth: any ideas?08:04
Kyralhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/web/firefox08:04
_franksobersabre: you can force it with synaptic but I think that would bring you back to the real 1.0.208:04
SeveasKyral, http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/breezy-changes/2005-July/008100.html08:04
sobersabreshit!!!!!08:04
Seveasbrb08:04
sobersabrei hate such things!08:04
jason__Seveas, same thing...unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/apache2 not found08:05
KyralAhh, so it isn't on the Source Repos yet?08:05
naliothAntinomy: put them back. right click on the panel and add notification area and pager08:05
sobersabrei am downloading vanilla firefox from the mozilla site.08:05
robotgeek_frank, was that update today?08:05
AntinomyAll: workspace functions and app buttons have disappeared from my taskbar panel. Any ideas?08:05
_frankrobotgeek: yeah08:05
sobersabrethis is kinda thing that NEVER can happen in debian stable.08:06
robotgeekAntinomy, sorry...i don't use a normal gnome, i dunno.08:06
AntinomyTried it already....perhaps a reboot...08:06
highvoltagerobotgeek: what gnome do you use?08:06
jason__Seveas, so, your saying port 80 cannot be opened until a webserver is running?08:06
highvoltagedropline gnome? is there another one?08:06
robotgeekhighvoltage, i use openbox as the window manager08:06
highvoltageah.08:06
robotgeekhighvoltage, and have disabled nautilus08:06
_franksobersabre: well, ubuntu is obviously not meant to be stable by debian standards. but this still shouldn't happem08:06
highvoltagerobotgeek: nautilus can be real evil sometimes.08:07
naliothAntinomy: rebooting is only necessary when upgrading your kernel08:07
sobersabre_frank, whom shall i email then ? :)08:07
sobersabreis it you ?08:07
naliothAntinomy: just restart your X (ctrl-alt-backspace)08:07
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Antinomyk08:07
robotgeek_frank, was this update yesterday night?? or today morning...i did do some gnome-support firefox updates at abt 2am or so yesterday08:07
_frankwhat? I'm just repeating what I heard earlier here08:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYhey Seveas can you please give me those instructions again they scrolled off the screen >.< sorry to bother you08:07
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robotgeekhighvoltage, slow machine. no funkiness needed!08:08
_frankrobotgeek: I don't know exactly when this was. and morning, night might be different for us08:08
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robotgeek_frank, lemme check if there are any firefox updates! simple :)08:09
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afonithow best can i 'share' a folder on my computer, like that another computer could connect to and put stuff in , or get stuff out of it?08:10
robotgeek_frank, oops..i think i have them, unless they have been pulled out from the repositories, like they shud be :)08:10
_frankrobotgeek: ill check again08:10
robotgeek_frank, not a problem, i did use firefox all morning and it dint crash.08:10
naliothafonit: do you have a windows infested network?08:11
_frankrobotgeek: no you do have the new one but for alot of people it crashes08:11
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ChurcH_of_FoamYfire fox has never crashed on me08:11
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robotgeek_frank, as long as it doesn't crash, no probs...and yeah, i do have konq anyways, or lynx or elinks :)08:12
afonitnalioth:  4 pc's, 20 mac's, 2 linux box's,  so right now would like to get mac to see the linux box,   but for future will need windows to see the linux box08:12
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afonitnalioth:  (for backups)08:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYnalioth hey man whats up?08:12
naliothafonit: samba08:13
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: nada, et tu08:13
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ChurcH_of_FoamYditto08:13
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^08:13
naliothafonit: w/o the window, nfs is great08:13
afonitnalioth: thankyou08:13
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mridleget rid of windows and use nfs :)08:14
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afonitmridle:(iwish_)08:15
hyperbolehi, I want to make a simple makefile that compiles 3 separate files and then links 'm08:15
naliothafonit: yes, your 2 win boxen are (imho) causing samba to be used (osx and linux can use nfs natively)08:15
HaroldWhere are apt sources located?08:15
hyperboleand I don't know how08:15
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mridlehyperbole:  not really a linux question ;)08:15
Antinomycan anyone help me out with a dual boot?08:15
Antinomyinstall?08:15
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CapSoft|afkyes Antinomy08:16
CapSoft|afkshoot08:16
AntinomyCapthanks08:16
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CapSofti have a dualboot atm08:16
AntinomyCapSoft: ok08:16
CapSoftwindows xp pro and ubuntu 5.0408:16
AntinomyCapSoft: Cool08:16
CapSoftgrub as boot loader08:16
AntinomyCapSoft: Here's my situation08:16
naliothAntinomy: there is a wiki article on that08:17
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HaroldWhat is Ubuntu's package manager called?08:17
Antinomynalioth: boy, do I know.08:17
CapSoftsynaptic08:17
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HaroldCapSoft, thanks08:17
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naliothAntinomy: so if you've read it, what is your question?08:17
CapSoftnp08:17
CapSoftyw08:17
Antinomynalioth: believe it or not, they aren't always clear or well written.08:17
CapSoftAntinomy, what is your situation???08:18
Antinomynalioth: so yes, I have questions.08:18
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naliothAntinomy: ok ask08:18
CapSoftindeed, ask08:18
Trackilizerhey guys08:18
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Trackilizeri need your help08:18
AntinomyCapSoft: ok 60 gig HD08:18
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knowledge_Alrighty ladies and germs, I'm out like my ex-girl at a beauty Pageant...later08:18
CapSofti have a 40....08:18
Rockett17Harold> tehnically it is apt-get and synaptic is the front end.08:18
Trackilizermy videos dont have any audio anymore08:18
Trackilizerbut my music still does08:18
CapSoftlater knowledge_08:18
Trackilizeri tried xine and vlc08:18
AntinomyCapSoft: I want 1 part for XP, 1 part for ubu, 1 part for fat32.08:18
naliothHarold: did you sneak in here?08:18
Haroldnalioth, Yes, I did08:18
CapSoftk Antinomy  i have it too08:18
Trackilizerand none of my videos have sound08:19
CapSoftis there an OS allready installed?08:19
Haroldnalioth, Well, not exactly.  I've been here quietly all morning.08:19
CapSoftor is the disk empty?08:19
AntinomyCapSoft: cool. Now, I'm just on the step where I resize the XP part08:19
naliothHarold: ah08:19
AntinomyCapSoft: yes08:19
robotgeekTrackilizer, which files are you trying to play?08:19
CapSoftok so xp is on it08:19
AntinomyCapSoft: yes08:19
CapSoftand xp has 60 gig?08:19
Trackilizerall my vidoes that had audio a few mins ago08:19
naliothAntinomy: check out my PM window when you get a minute (nothin to hurry about)08:19
Trackilizerthey all lost audio08:19
AntinomyCapSoft: resizing from 60 gig to 2008:19
robotgeekTrackilizer,  try playing a mp3 file in xine/vlc08:20
Trackilizerbut all my mp3 play perfectly08:20
Trackilizerokie08:20
CapSoftok so one 20 gig partition with xp08:20
Haroldnalioth, Actually, I've only been here for about an hour..08:20
CapSoftthen make another partition fat32 for ur data to be shared with linux08:20
Trackilizerdoesnt work08:20
AntinomyCapSoft: so i was think 10 GB for ubu, 30 for fat32 - sound good? this is from advice I got08:20
CapSoftand leave the rest (20 gig) open, don't partition it...08:20
Trackilizerbut it works with xmms08:20
naliothAntinomy: i recommend you reduce to 10gb, and use the ext2 driver for winXP08:20
Haroldnalioth, Is there any reason I should be using Synaptic as opposed to apt-get on Ubuntu?08:20
CapSoftuhm...08:20
naliothHarold: personal preference08:21
CapSofti'll check my ubuntu size... one moment08:21
AntinomyCapSoft: thanks08:21
robotgeekTrackilizer, hmm...check the volume settings :)08:21
Trackilizerup08:21
DeMidoes anyone has an graphic FTP program for linux like UltraFXP or FlashFXP ?08:21
Trackilizerlike i said worked only a few mins ago....08:21
Haroldnalioth, For example, yesterday you said I should always use Ubuntu packages before trying Debian ones.08:21
naliothDeMi: gftp08:21
robotgeekDeMi, gftp08:21
DeMiits not capable of FXPing right?08:21
HaroldNakkel, It's all about the repository list, isn't it?08:22
qt2is there any possible way of getting system sounds after using this guide?: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&page=1&pp=10&highlight=gaim+sound08:22
DeMii'm configuring gftp atm08:22
Haroldnalioth, , It's all about the repository list, isn't it?08:22
DeMibut i get the idea that its missing a lot of functionalities08:22
robotgeekDeMi, for that I think u need lftp, but that is command line only08:22
DeMimm08:22
HaroldNakkel, Oops, sorry - that message was for nalioth.08:22
CapSoftuhm.... Antinomy there is something wrong... cuz it is only 3 gig...08:22
Trackilizerany ideas?08:22
DeMiyeah, pftp is perfect but thats sli aswell08:22
CapSofti think that ubuntu takes more space then 3 GB.....08:22
DeMicli08:22
robotgeekTrackilizer, i'm outta ideas!08:22
naliothHarold: most debian binarys will not do well, with ubuntu08:22
qt2zerboxx, any headway?08:23
AntinomyCapSoft: I was told 10 would be sufficient08:23
CapSoftbut Antinomy 10 should be enough08:23
CapSoftindeed08:23
CapSoftit is08:23
AntinomyCapSoft: ok08:23
Antinomycool08:23
robotgeekDeMi, well i dunno abt pftp, but I love the tab completion in lftp08:23
Haroldnalioth, There's a new Skype client I wanted to try.  The repos is08:23
Harolddeb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free08:23
FlyingSquirrel32hey, I'm reading the debian install package for NIS and it says: "The Linux libc5 does not support shadow NIS maps."08:23
Trackilizerthis sucks08:23
Haroldnalioth, Is that a binary?08:23
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FlyingSquirrel32what is libc5?08:23
DeMiah ok robotgeek08:23
Trackilizeroh well i still have win xp08:23
AntinomyCapSoft: here's what I don't get. I thought that I would make 3 partitions, 1 for XP, 1 for ubu, one for fat32.08:23
Trackilizeri guess linux isnt desktop ready afterall08:24
emuzestoDoes anyone here know if theres any good statistic programmes for linux in similarity to fex. SPSS?08:24
highvoltageFlyingSquirrel32: it's almost like debc5, except totally different08:24
HappyFoolFlyingSquirrel32: older libc (core system libraries, more or less). ubuntu uses libc608:24
AntinomyCapSoft: but someone seaid I should do one for "Swap"08:24
CapSoftow08:24
CapSoftlol08:24
CapSofthe is true08:24
CapSoftbut08:24
AntinomyCapSoft: and that isnt in the documentation on the wiki08:24
CapSoftdon't bother08:24
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CapSoftbecause ubuntu will fix it for you while installing08:24
naliothHarold: any URL beginning with a "deb" is a binary repo (deb-src beginning a line is a source repo)08:24
FlyingSquirrel32highvoltage: and debc5 is?08:24
AntinomyCapSoft: ok, but teach me to fish: why no bother08:24
HappyFoolemuzesto: i don't know about fex, but I've heard of 'R', which is supposed to be fairly good08:24
CapSoftas i said08:24
AntinomyCapSoft: OK08:24
CapSoftjust on win xp partition08:24
Haroldnalioth, Ah, okay08:24
CapSoftone for fat3208:25
CapSoftand leave the rest08:25
AntinomyCapSoft: got it, Ubunutu will make it08:25
CapSoftubuntu setup will handle it08:25
CapSoft:P08:25
CapSoftindeed08:25
CapSoftubuntu r0x!08:25
highvoltageFlyingSquirrel32: debconf 5 ;)08:25
robotgeekTrackilizer, it was a few minutes ago :)08:25
HaroldAnyone here using Skype on Ubuntu?08:25
AntinomyCapSoft: why am i not making 3 right now?08:25
naliothAntinomy: i recommend ext3 for your 'shared' space08:25
naliothAntinomy: fat32 has filesize limitations08:25
_frankfayt08:25
Antinomynaliothwill it give me that choice? and will bot systems see it?08:25
CapSofttrue08:25
doonzhow can i manually eject my dvdrom08:25
CapSoftbut windows only has fat and ntfs08:25
emuzestoHappyFool: Fex. was meant to be a shortening of "for example"08:25
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doonzfile explorer gave me some error about not being able to initialize?08:26
emuzestoHappyFool: but I will check out this "R".08:26
CapSoftubuntu will make a / partition and a swap one08:26
AntinomyCapSoft: ok, leave that for ubuntu08:26
CapSoftyup08:26
naliothAntinomy: i'm lookin the URL up right now08:26
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AntinomyCapSoft: ok, I'm gonna hit the button and resize this mofo. then it will give me options to partition what's freed up?08:27
emuzestoHappyFool: Looks good.08:27
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CapSoftdon't partition the free space08:27
Antinomyno, I'm talking about right now.08:27
AntinomyI have to resize XP, right?08:28
CapSoftyeah08:28
CapSoftpartition magic is the best tool for it08:28
zerboxxAnyone here able to help me with installing cedega cvs??08:28
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AntinomyI'm doing it in the install off the x86 disk08:29
AntinomyCapSoft: off the x86 disk08:29
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AntinomyCapSoft: wiki said that the install disk would manage it08:29
FlyingSquirrel32highvoltage, HappyFool: Thanks, it all makes sense now.08:29
qt2interesting.08:30
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AntinomyCapSoft: began resizing08:31
AntinomyCapSoft: already defragged and scanned for errors08:31
CapSoftnice08:31
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CapSoftgood luck08:31
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AntinomyCapSoft: basically, it's going to finish and return me to the partition menu again, and give me the option to create more, correct?08:32
kamikazepacmanhi ,german guy here?08:32
naliothAntinomy: at that point, you'll be done, cuz the linux installer will use the free space as it sees fit (or you can manually do everything)08:32
CapSoftyes08:32
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naliothkamikazepacman: en der #ubuntu-de, bitte08:32
h08817i why is my ubuntu taking so long to install08:33
CapSoftwhen it is finished and you have 10 gig un-partitioned08:33
h08817it takes forever on the base system install08:33
Antinomynalioth: wait. I thought I had to set up a partition for linux, and another for fat32?08:33
CapSoftjust reboot and insert the bootable ubuntu image08:33
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CapSofth08817, maybe no inet link?08:33
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naliothAntinomy: you can set up the fat32 in teh linux installer, if you wish08:33
h08817what is that?08:33
CapSoftindeed with fdisk08:33
Antinomynalioth ok, so it will throw me back to the partition screen again.08:34
CapSoftgood luck Antinomy08:34
CapSofti am gonna reboot08:34
naliothAntinomy: i reckon so08:34
CapSofthave to do some work in visual studio08:34
Antinomyat that point, I will use the freespace to set aside 10 GB for linux and 30 for fat3208:34
CapSoftso have to switch to windows08:34
robotgeeki was trying to get Tiger to dual boot with Ubuntu yesterday. And it refused to install. The work around was to get rid of the ubuntu partition. *Middle* finger to OS X08:34
AntinomyCapSoft: thanks08:34
CapSoftyuck,....08:34
CapSoft:P08:34
CapSoftlol08:34
CapSoftlater folks08:34
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mauperany ideas how to print a webpage (nasty huge table) ?08:35
naliothrobotgeek: what wouldn't install?08:35
naliothrobotgeek: i have tiger and ubuntu on the same box, and it works just fine08:36
robotgeeknalioth, OS X Tiger08:36
naliothrobotgeek: it just refused to install? or what?08:36
robotgeeknalioth, the dvd just pops out saying "can't install".08:36
ihaveanicknamehi, does anyone else have firefox crashes when closing a tab, after upgrading ubuntu today?08:36
zerboxxIf I'm using an installer (sh thingy) and it asks for a root password, what should I enter?08:36
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lsuactiafneryour username08:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYSeveas thank you so much that was so much easyer than the howto was08:37
lsuactiafneryour username's passwd08:37
h08817why does my install take so long? is it because my computer sucks?08:37
zerboxxlsuactiafner: npe, doesn't work08:37
xliuhow to see complete system log?08:37
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robotgeeknalioth, so i just got rid of my old panther partition and used it for linux :)08:37
naliothrobotgeek: tiger wouldnt install over panther?08:38
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jurgonhIs there anyway to shrink DVD.isos so they fit on a reguler DVD-disc, besides using DVD-shrink with Wine? is there any Linux aplication that is similar to DVD-shrink?08:38
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robotgeeknalioth, most of the things work just fine. I just need to work on video out, blue tooth with my phone issues. gonna take a look later though08:38
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naliothjurgonh: dvdrip08:39
NightLordDoes anyone know how to check if my webcam is working?08:39
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naliothrobotgeek: so you don't need a sounding board to get tiger back on?08:39
robotgeeknalioth, my panther partion got fscked. looks like the only way is to format/partition and reinstall everything08:39
_frankjurgonh: I don't think there is any that is as easy as dvd shrink08:39
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dupsNightLord: test it locally, then go to the url where it's running off of, that should be a pretty definiative answer08:39
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ubernostrumAnyone who got the new firefox package this morning, I'd appreciate some help isolating this problem: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1285408:39
NightLorderm...08:39
Amaranthubernostrum: it's caused by an extension08:39
ubernostrumSome of it seems to be certain extensions, but there are a couple crashes independent of them.08:40
robotgeeknalioth, i was just talking about how ubuntu has won me over :)08:40
NightLordhow do i find the url?08:40
naliothrobotgeek: and that is doable or not? (burning the HD and restarting from scratch)08:40
ubernostrumAmaranth: I can reproduce some of the crashes with no extensions installed, and so can some other folks.08:40
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Amaranthubernostrum: No one has reported any problems after uninstalling all of their extensions.08:40
ubernostrumAmaranth: I have.08:40
Amaranthubernostrum: You've filed a bug on this?08:40
benkong2anyone help with dhcp.conf?08:40
Heart_where can i find a log from the boot?08:40
ubernostrumAmaranth: I filed that bug.08:40
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ChurcH_of_FoamYanyone know what the media player that can play windows formats is called?08:41
ubernostrumAmaranth: some of the nastier crashes only happen with particular extensions, yes, but with no extensions I still get crashes on theme installs for example.08:41
crimsunChurcH_of_FoamY, mplayer, vlc, kaffeine, ...08:41
robotgeeknalioth, yeah...i just need to backup my home directory, and my /etc/08:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYthanks08:41
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: you need codecs08:41
_frankChurcH_of_FoamY: you need w32codecs08:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea i have them08:41
_frankChurcH_of_FoamY: then both xine and mplayer based player can play08:41
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NightLordok, lets try another tactic;08:42
naliothrobotgeek: i installed from scratch OSX and linux and had no problems (except Tiger has a taste for yaboot)08:42
NightLorddoes ubuntu install the logitech quickcam automatically?08:42
AmaranthChurcH_of_FoamY: get totem-xine then08:42
robotgeeknalioth, u installed tiger first though?08:42
AmaranthChurcH_of_FoamY: so totem can use w32codecs08:42
h08817does the hd that has ubuntu must be the master hd08:42
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kafeineh08817, no08:42
naliothrobotgeek: no, i installed ydl, got pissed at rpmhell, and put ubuntu on it back when warty came out08:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhere do i get the w32codecs from?08:43
h08817kafeine,  well how for the first boot will it work?08:43
naliothrobotgeek: when i had 10.308:43
ChurcH_of_FoamYi forgot that was the last install i did had them08:43
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<08:43
h08817kafeine, it will probably just go to my master hd08:43
_frankChurcH_of_FoamY: backports  hoary-extras I think08:43
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h08817instead of read my linux hd08:43
robotgeeknalioth, looks like we followed a similiar route, except i used debian08:43
kafeineh08817 it will 'go' to where your mbr tells it to08:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYso i get them through synaptic?08:44
LuNaTiK^GuYIs there a Java IDE that i can get from the repositories (NetBeans style)?08:44
h08817o ok thanks08:44
h08817well mine install is taking forever08:44
naliothrobotgeek: upgraded tiger over 10.3 and tiger ate my bootloader08:44
robotgeekand tiger just installed over panther? okay...too late now :)08:44
ubernostrumAmaranth: I haven't had a chance to try that yet, but do you know if the same problems show up on the mozilla.org firefox builds?08:44
_frankChurcH_of_FoamY: you have to add the repos to your sources.list08:44
Amaranthubernostrum: they don't08:44
^DodGeR^why not use netbeans LuNaTiK^GuY ?08:44
h08817it has been on 75% for forever but it is still working though the hd is making noises and the files are still changing08:44
naliothrobotgeek: and that was the only 'excitement' i had08:44
LuNaTiK^GuYmaybe there is something better...dont know08:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYdamnit i thought i already had them >.<08:44
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ChurcH_of_FoamY!w32codecs08:45
ubotufrom memory, w32codecs is a set of codecs needed to play many common audio and video formats, such as WMV. You can install w32codecs from the Backports repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org).08:45
robotgeeknalioth, i havent had to boot into OS X for anything, so why have it.08:45
benkong2where does this go in the file?  No subnet declaration for eth0 (24.88.250.212)Please write a subnet declaration in your dhcpd.conf file for the network segment to which interface eth0 is attached.08:45
^DodGeR^ahh , think eally eclipse / netbeans would be best choices  i recon08:45
^DodGeR^thats just me though08:45
LuNaTiK^GuYeclipse....where do i get that from?08:45
naliothrobotgeek: i havetn booted into osx (to use it) since i went to ubuntu08:45
benkong2LuNaTiK^GuY; www.eclipse.org08:46
robotgeeknalioth, :)08:46
TheLightout of curiosity, has anyone here had any experice with ATA over Ethernet in Ubuntu?08:46
naliothrobotgeek: however i bought a new mac yestern and have had to firewire-target-mode my ubuntu box08:46
Amaranthubotu: no, w32codecs is a set of codecs needed to play many common audio and video formats, such as WMV. You can install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org).08:46
ubotuAmaranth: okay08:46
robotgeeknalioth, congrats!08:46
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robotgeekfor the new mac08:47
jp?08:47
Night_LordWho else thinks the debian guarantee is cool? "If you break it, you get to keep all of the pieces."08:47
jphave a mac is motive for congratulate?08:47
jpI don't think so.08:47
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Computer__Gurumacs rock08:47
jp?08:47
jpOSX ROCKS08:48
robotgeekComputer__Guru, agreed!08:48
TheLight<sarcasm> yeah we all know that mac moving to intel is proof of their poor hardware </sarcasm>08:48
Computer__Gurusolid boxen with a VERY solid OS08:48
jpmac? I don't think that :)08:48
LuNaTiK^GuYand for C/C++ ?08:48
AmaranthOS X is crap08:48
naliothgettin way off topic fellas08:48
jpI can say bmw rocks, but?08:48
nalioththere is #ubuntu-offtopic for that08:48
AmaranthIt's better crap than most, but it's still crap. :)08:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow it must be so easy to teach ubotu things lol08:48
_frankTheLight: well technically its IBM that makes the poor hardware for macs08:48
Computer__Gurujp: well, the computing community in general will disagree with you on that one, especially those who have a clue08:49
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Amaranthubernostrum: Can you join #ubuntu-devel please?08:49
TheLightSo, I guess noone knows anything about ATA Over Ethernet (AOE)?08:49
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AmaranthTheLight: Never heard of it.08:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYok well that backports page is really confusing08:50
naliothTheLight: try back later, we have all the worlds timezones in here08:50
jpComputer__Guru ?08:50
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TheLightheh, k08:50
TheLightthanks08:50
hyrax42is this mozilla-firefox update causing trouble for others?08:50
hyrax42I can't close tabs08:50
hyrax42it crashes08:50
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hyrax42middle click on tab or close button08:50
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hyrax42using Tab-Browser Preferences is the only nonstandard thing08:50
Computer__Gurujp: what im saying is anyone who knows their shit is gonna tell you that macs are damned nice machines and macosx is the best thing apple _ever_ did08:50
LuNaTiK^GuYWhat IDE do u suggest for C/C++ on Linux?08:51
robotgeekmaybe we shud add firefox broken , don't panic to the topic ?08:51
hyrax42I panic08:51
hyrax42!08:51
ubotuhyrax42: I give up, what is it?08:51
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hyrax42huh?08:51
_frankrobotgeek: we should08:51
nico_32re08:51
robotgeekComputer__Guru, OS X is very nice...doesn't suit my requirements though08:51
hyrax42ubotu, what you say08:51
ubotuhyrax42: I don't know, could you explain it?08:51
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_frankwho can?08:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYok how do i use this backports thing it's really complicated08:51
hyrax42explain what?08:51
nico_32is firefox fixed ?08:51
hyrax42ChurcH_of_FoamY, don't08:52
Amaranthnico_32: Not yet.08:52
naliothChurcH_of_FoamY: its really easy08:52
Amaranthnico_32: Probably not until tomorrow.08:52
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ChurcH_of_FoamYkk08:52
nico_32Amaranth, what is the problem ?08:52
hyrax42oh, I was talking to a bot08:52
Amaranthnico_32: Not quite sure.08:52
hyrax42bleh mcblah08:52
Amaranthnico_32: For now you can get firefox from backports, it should work.08:52
chickenmanA little problem people, i was going to compile Fluxbox but when running configure i got this error : configure: error: Your libstdc++ doesn't have the sstream or strstream classes ,, how do i fix it ?08:52
jpComputer__Guru I think OSX is perfect, but I think that for me, their hardware aren't so _amazing_08:52
hyrax42did nobody test this or what?08:53
Computer__Guruagreed08:53
hyrax42I noticed the problem within about 0.23 seconds of starting it08:53
Computer__Gurubut there's still something to be said for risc processors :)08:53
nico_32Amaranth, i currently use epiphany08:53
Amaranthnico_32: That works too.08:53
Sonderbladehow do you enable dri in ubuntu?08:53
Amaranthhyrax42: It was tested, the testers didn't have the extensions that break things.08:53
Computer__Guruokay, gotta go help a friend with his pc and smoke some weed.. bbl08:54
hyrax42tab-browser preferences?08:54
hyrax42or is it down to something else08:54
chickenmanHelp please ?08:54
Amaranthhyrax42: Lots of them do it.08:54
hyrax42hom hoom08:54
Amaranthhyrax42: For now use epiphany or get firefox from backports.08:54
hyrax42is 1.0.6 broken08:54
hyrax42or just the mozilla-firefox in hoary08:55
robotgeekwith linux, i can choose the way I want things. with OS X, I gotta work the way Apple thinks is best for me.08:55
Amaranthjust hoary's version, afaik08:55
Amaranthrobotgeek: #ubuntu-offtopic :)08:55
hyrax42robotgeek, but if OS X works how you want, it's a hell of a lot easier08:55
chickenmanA little problem people, i was going to compile Fluxbox but when running configure i got this error : configure: error: Your libstdc++ doesn't have the sstream or strstream classes ,, how do i fix it ?08:55
Amaranthchickenman: Please don't repeat. If someone knows they will answer.08:56
Amaranthchickenman: ubuntu has fluxbox, why are you compiling?08:56
Computer__Guruchickenman: apt-get build-dep fluxbox08:56
chickenmanit does ??08:56
naliothchickenman: you have the libstdc++ dev files?08:56
Amaranth!info fluxbox08:56
ubotufluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.11-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 626 kB, Installed size: 1988 kB08:56
chickenmani think so08:56
robotgeekAmaranth, i am there, no one else is :) will stop!08:56
Amaranthchickenman: It's in universe.08:56
Computer__Guruthen it will compile08:56
Computer__Gurubye08:56
nico_32!info gcc4-base08:56
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chickenmanahhhh ok, Thank you :D08:56
Cooner750i'm baaaaaaaaaaack08:57
Amaranth!addingrepositories08:57
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Amaranth08:57
Amaranthhrm08:57
robotgeekchickenman, i wud recommend openbox, it is very nice08:57
Amaranth!repositories08:57
ubotusomebody said repositories was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:57
Amaranththere you go08:57
Computer__Guruubotu Computer__Guru is a pimp. Plain and simple.08:57
ubotuComputer__Guru: okay08:57
Amaranthubotu: forget Computer__Guru08:57
_franklol08:57
ubotui forgot computer__guru, Amaranth08:57
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Amaranthubotu: lock Computer__Guru08:57
Computer__Guruheheh08:57
Computer__Guruokay i quit08:57
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eliUbuntuis there a good partitioning program on the ubuntu live cd?08:58
Computer__Gurui do use it for all kinds of actually useful things you know08:58
_frankAmaranth: how about mentioning the firefox problem in the topic?08:58
nico_32eliUbuntu, gpart ?08:58
AmaranthComputer__Guru: lock locks the factoid from being changed08:58
Computer__Guruah08:58
Computer__Gurugotchya08:58
Computer__Gurunice bot, btw08:58
Computer__Gurugtg08:58
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eliUbuntuok, getting ready to redo my dual boot system (ready for cleanup and adding more memory to ubuntu)08:58
Computer__Gurupeace, love, and chicken grease08:58
Amaranth_frank: thanks, forgot08:59
Amaranthbye Computer__Guru08:59
_franknp08:59
Amaranthhehe08:59
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ubernostrumI hate to bring up another Firefox problem... but is anyone else seeing problems with sites which dynamically set the title, e.g., Gmail? Suddenly the titlebar isn't always updating when it ought to.08:59
xliumy laptop can shutdown itself automatically. Does anyone have some suggestions? I have checked /var/log/syslog, nothing related to it found.09:00
naliotheliUbuntu: yes, parted and maybe qtparted or gparted (both frontends to parted)09:00
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Cooner750booting ubutnu. brb09:00
Tobaerg, why don't I see a firefox upgrade?09:00
TobaI see it says "broken" in the topic09:00
ColonelKernelubernostrum, seriously, just install the one from the firefox site to run locally (install it as user) and use that until the ubuntu firefox is fixed - they know its screwed up09:00
Tobabut WHY09:00
Tobaeh09:00
Tobawhatever09:00
TobaI'll just wait09:00
eliUbuntuok, thanks for the info nico_32, and nalioth09:00
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ChurcH_of_FoamY!backports09:00
ubotuI guess backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org09:00
eliUbuntuoff to partitioning09:00
eliUbuntuadios09:00
ubernostrumColonelKernel: I know they know there are issues. I reported one of them and have been following it closely. I just wondered if this specific issue was also known.09:01
ColonelKernelubernostrum,  Firefox is broken in hoary; use backports or epiphany09:01
ColonelKernelI dont know what backports is09:01
ColonelKernelbut 1.0.6 is installed locally here, works well, and is screaming fast09:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYis this backport ok to use?09:02
ChurcH_of_FoamYdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted09:02
ubernostrumColonelKernel: I know that. Please stop repeating things I've acknowledge I'm aware of.09:02
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ubernostrumhttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12854#c9 <-- some useful info.09:02
bjvok, my su behavior is all messed up, because somebody *may* have performed a recursive chown on root.. -_-09:02
bjvfor this distro to work properly, what does root need to own, and which directories do i own?09:03
KyralYou basically own /home09:03
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Kyralroot owns everything else09:04
ubernostrumbjv: you want to own /home/yourusername.09:04
bjvwell, ive gotten very good at recursive chowns, so lemme just reset everything to root. :p09:05
Kyraland possibly addon storage09:05
Kyrallike for me I set /media/anime to everyone :D\09:05
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Kyralhmm09:06
Kyralthat reminds me09:06
Kyralif I added another SATA HD09:06
naliothKyral: you know you want to share09:06
Kyralhow would I RAID it so that it functions as one big drive?09:06
Amaranthbjv: If you've changing owners of large portions of the disk you're basically going to have to reinstall.09:06
Amarantherr, changed09:07
Kyralie, one mountpoint09:07
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AmaranthKyral: I know that has something to do with LVM, not sure how to do it though.09:07
Kyralnalioth, I just set it that way so I wouldn't have to hassle with permissions09:07
KyralI'm the only one that uses this thing..09:07
Kyralwatch me in 2 years have a 1 TB RAID for anime09:08
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KyralHell, I'd build server just to host my anime :D09:09
naliothsteppin a minute09:09
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Kyraland anyone know when FireFox 1.0.6 is gonna be added to the Breezy Source Repos?09:10
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ColonelKerneladd it to the heaory repos, its sweet09:10
ColonelKernelhoary09:10
KyralI'm not an official backporter :P09:10
ColonelKernelits hard for me to type that with a straight face09:10
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KyralI can build a 1.0.5 deb for you, for you to use at your own risk (works for me :D)09:11
bjvi guess i will just reinstall. :(09:11
ColonelKernelis there a howto for building debs? Ill build one of 1.0.609:11
Kyralbjv, ain't like you have to reinstall Gentoo :P09:11
ColonelKernelreinstall gentoo = OUCH09:11
Kyralit isn't in the breezy source repos yet...09:11
Kyrallast I checked09:12
ColonelKernelwhat is the current breezy kernel?09:12
LuNaTiK^GuYwot C/C++ IDE can i use plz?09:12
KyralNFI09:12
KyralLuNaTiK^GuY, Anjuta09:12
crimsunColonelKernel, 2.6.12.+09:12
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LuNaTiK^GuY10x09:12
KyralI'll prolly stick with the 2.6.10 kernel even after breezy09:12
ColonelKernelnice - where can I fetch its kernel source from?09:12
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bjvnetwork config is /etc/network/interfaces right?  :P09:12
crimsunlinux-source-2.6.1209:12
Kyralkernel.org :P09:13
bjvwould suck not to be able to come back in here, after the reinstall09:13
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ColonelKernelcrimsun, yeah - how do I get that09:13
Amaranthcafuego: I've forgotten my password again. :)09:13
ColonelKernelvanilla sources dont work on ubuntu09:13
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crimsunColonelKernel, use apt-get/aptitude/dselect/Synaptic/Kynaptic09:13
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ColonelKernelcrimsun, no way, I would rather just download the deb, its just a source package anyhow09:15
ColonelKernelhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.12%2Flinux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-3.3_all.deb&md5sum=1815bc5c359a47338491a07c6fd34c5c&arch=all&type=main09:15
ColonelKernelthis is gonna be sweet09:15
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ColonelKernelcrimsun, thank you VERY much09:15
KyralHooray! time to install the source for FF 1.0.609:15
bjvwhere does apt store the packages it downloads?09:16
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bjvid like to move that to my home directory too, before i reinstall09:16
KyralIf I build this from the vanilla source outta the Breezy Tree, I shouldn't screw up my Breezy Upgrade later, right?09:16
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MuiskeHas someone also tried to run Shareaza in Wine? I tried it, it installs just fine, but when I try to run Shareaza it hangs at "Starting GUI" in the startup screen... any help?09:16
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bkinmanhow do i test whether my soundcard is working in linux?09:17
JKRcan you hear sound?09:17
JKR:P09:17
bkinmanno =)09:17
JKRthen its not working.09:18
JKR;)09:18
bjv(16:15:55) bjv: where does apt store the packages it downloads?09:18
bkinmanso how do i set it up?09:18
JKRDoes anyone know if the nvidia linux drivers support SLI?09:18
slushpupieanyone have any idea what an error of this sort might mean?09:19
slushpupie/usr/bin/ssh: /usr/lib/libk5crypto.so.3: no version information available (required by /usr/bin/ssh)09:19
bkinmanit really seems as if it should be working09:19
bkinmanthe equalizer is bouncing up and down and whatnot.09:19
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bkinmanerr, spectrum anylizer09:19
gianniin what program?09:19
bkinmanxmms09:20
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jatoshi09:20
JKRis the volume control next  to time turned up?09:20
zerboxxI'm trying to get cvscedega working, but I'm getting this error "err:font:ReadFontDir Can't open directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/" any help??09:20
bkinmanyu09:20
slushpupieJKR: the readme dosnt mention anything explicitly, but I dont see why it wouldnt09:20
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jatosjust a quick question, can anyone see what username I am logged in with over IRC?09:20
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KyralI want to get the Forum Rank "Wannabe Backporter"09:20
nilsL_Could any one mention a good Direct-Connect client?09:20
JKRthanks slushpupie09:20
bkinmanJKR: yup.09:20
bjvjatos [~root@82-34-93-26.cable.ubr05.gill.blueyonder.co.uk] 09:20
^DodGeR^your speakers turned on bkinman  ?09:20
ColonelKernelI need gcc 3.4???09:20
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jatosright09:20
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jatosok...09:20
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bkinman^DodGeR^, yup09:20
Kyraljatos, type /mode jatos +i09:20
quique#ubuntu-es09:20
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^DodGeR^hrmm09:21
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jatosdone09:21
giannibkinman> what sound card do you have?09:21
Kyralthey won't be able to see you unless they know your nick or are in a channel with you09:21
^DodGeR^might just be set super soft ?09:21
^DodGeR^or muted ?09:21
JKRtry earphones bkinman09:21
bjvdid bkinman make sure his sound out, etc are toggled in whatever mixer program he is using?09:21
bkinmangianni: i have 2 in here, one is a soundblaster audigy.09:21
bjvlike kmix or whatever09:21
jatosis there any risk of me being hacked, I may add I am behind a windows proxy with firewall(or is that more of risk?)09:21
ColonelKernelI love my audigy09:21
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jatosfrom what I know audigy are very good sound cards09:22
ColonelKernelbkinman, are you seeing your sound card with alsamxer and all and not getting any sound of it no matter what you do?09:22
JKRjatos, unlikely09:22
jatosok, good09:22
JKRdepends tho, just a home pc?09:22
jatosbeen logged is a root I wanted to be careful09:22
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jatosjust a home pc but as I say I am behind a windows based firewall09:23
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bkinmanColonelKernel, I see my sound card with alsamizer, yes09:23
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jatoshi ricosuave1709:24
ricosuave17hey how do i get java for opera09:24
jatosgoto www.sun.com and download java - I think09:24
jatosanyone here used kubuntu?09:24
ricosuave17but i want a package dude09:25
bjv:(   can someone plz find where apt caches its packages for me09:25
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bjvim pwned remember?09:25
MrBiscuitHI all09:25
giannijatos> yea09:25
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jatosbjv, apt gets its packages from securit.ubuntu.com I think09:25
bkinmanIm so very confused about this sound business? is there an automated tool i can run in debian to try to get it to work?09:25
jatosand from the CD from09:25
jatosgianni, what do you think of it?09:25
bjvbut it stores them on the local disk, before installing them. i think09:25
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MrBiscuitWhat do you think it would take to reconstruct the open source darwin for mac and rebuild the entire os by hand?09:25
jasoncohenheh, so the security update for firefox broke firefox?09:25
jatosyeah09:26
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slushpupiebjv: /var/cache/apt/archive09:26
jasoncohenso much for the stability of backporting security fixes09:26
jatosprolly in the temp folder09:26
giannijatos> i like it09:26
bjvthx09:26
giannijatos> but i prefer kde anyway so im biased09:26
jatos@gianni, so do I, much better than Gnome, and I am biased too09:26
^DodGeR^nite all09:26
jatos@gianni, a lot of people are biast towards KDE, wonder why...09:26
giannilol09:27
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jatosbtw gianni, do you have any experience with irssi?09:27
LuNaTiK^GuYi downloaded the netbeans binary....but it says i can't run it09:27
LuNaTiK^GuYTo open the file, rename the file to the correct extension for "executable",09:27
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giannijatos> cant say i do sorry09:28
jatoskk09:28
jatosalso gianni, are the msg's your sending private or public, that would answer what I want to know09:28
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giannipublic09:28
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jatosk09:28
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jatosjust wondered because sometimes when you send me a message your username comes up yellow and I am trying to work why09:29
LuNaTiK^GuYi downloaded the netbeans binary....but it says i can't run it plz help me ;S09:29
black-whispwhats best samba or nfs?09:29
Amaranthjatos: like this?09:29
Amaranthjatos: it's because i said your name09:29
jatosyes amaranth09:29
jatosah09:29
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slushpupieblack-whisp: depends on what you want to do09:29
jasoncohenso, what broke in hoary's firefox? i read the complaints on the forum but everyone seemed to complain of a different problem on all 3 architectures09:30
Heart_hm, whats wrong when i try to burn with k3b -> http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/757/k3b4no.jpg09:30
jatosbtw, snakebit are you in the UK09:30
black-whispslushpupie:  share a folder in  hope a windows  machine can see it.:S09:30
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slushpupieblack-whisp: most windows systems will not ever see an NFS share09:30
slushpupieblack-whisp: so you will want samba09:30
djpanyone know how to get ogg123 to playback streaming ogg files?09:30
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djpogg123 http://stream.cur1350.co.uk:8000/ogg.m3u returns the message Error opening http://stream.cur1350.co.uk:8000/ogg.m3u using the oggvorbis module.  The file may be corrupted.09:30
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jesus-francoHeart_: try running k3d in the terminal09:30
jatosdjp, your best jsut to kaffeine09:31
jesus-francoheart_: this way you can see the output09:31
jatos*just to get kaffeine09:31
jatosoh djp, are you behind a firewall?09:31
djpjatos: no09:31
jatosah09:31
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jatoswell thats not the problem09:32
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jatosbtw anyone here visit the ubuntu forums?09:32
black-whispslushpupie:could you help me? i need this windows machine to  see my share. :S09:32
RetroManhey everyone - quick problem.. im on the phone with my buddy whos trying to install Ub on his sole hard drive that is completely taken up by windows09:32
RetroManI cant see the escreen, but does ubuntu installation let you chop a partitition in half?09:32
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Heart_jesus-franco: http://phpfi.com/70929 <- thats all (no new line appears in terminal when the error in k3b comes..)09:33
jatosblack-whisp: try entering the name of the computer with the samba share in the explorer address bar09:33
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JKRRetroMan, yes09:33
RetroManJKR - do you know what the name of this option is offhand?09:33
JKRcant remember how tho..09:33
jesus-francoHeart_: then try burning a cd using sudo k3d in the terminal09:33
ObladiJKR are you sure? Fedora and Mandrake dont09:33
black-whispjatos: then he sees my apache server.09:33
kroh could anyone help me? Im new to the whole Linux-scene!09:34
jatosright \\computer-name09:34
jatoswith the slash's...09:34
naliothkroh: have you asked a question?09:34
jesus-francolinux is a REVOLUTION get it right :p09:34
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jesus-francoI say that to all to my friends ^_^09:34
jatosjesus-franco: lets narrow that down to kubuntu09:34
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jatosjesus-franco: most of linux if you ask me with ubuntu been one of the exeptions to the rule09:35
black-whispjatos: then it propts for a username.. and the one formy system doesnt work???09:35
black-whispany ideas09:35
jatosenter the username for your linux system09:35
JKRRetroMan, do you want to make a windows/linux partition and dual boot? make 2 linux partitions on a single drive? or split an already partitioned partition? :P09:35
Orzel12hey guys quiestion has anyone picked up a compaq presario v2311us yet09:35
virguleI want to compile 'kweather' (a very old version from KDE 1.1 days) and want to give it another name so it woll not interfere with current kweather. I want to know what I need to change09:35
djpjatos: just leaving off the m3u extension gets ogg123 to work! :)09:35
jatosand password too09:35
black-whispjatos: for the user on my system?09:35
jatosdjp, good goood09:35
Heart_jesus-franco: http://phpfi.com/70931 ... the same i think09:35
thechitowncubsHey everyone, i just had an idea and am starting to draft it up right now, what would you guys think of a google type search for the wiki/forums so that you can find solutions to problems quicker?09:35
jatosyour username on the system with the samba share09:36
thechitowncubshere is a draft i made: http://www.thechitowncubs.com/ubuntu09:36
black-whispmm.. it doesnt acept it.:S09:36
jatossee if it works09:36
jatosright...09:36
nalioththechitowncubs: go for it09:36
jatoshow have you set up samba?09:36
jatosbrb btw black risk09:36
jesus-francoHeart_: have you actually tried burning, most warnings are safe to ignore09:36
black-whisphmm.. just used apt.09:36
krohim trying to install xmms on the computer, but it says that im not root, soo i try to type in the root pass but i says that its the wrong pass. Im sure of what pass i typed in during the installation.09:36
thechitowncubsfor example: jatos could search that right now09:36
jatosI will be back just as soon I have started KDE09:36
thechitowncubsand possibly find an answer09:36
nalioths_dogkroh: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:37
Heart_jesus-franco: ?!09:37
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krohthanks09:37
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thechitowncubslol nalioths dog09:37
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madis09:37
jesus-francoHeart_: try burning a real cd or iso in k3d with sudo, just because it opens up with errors doesnt mean the burn process with fail09:38
Heart_you think i should burn a data cd instead of the video cd to test if it's working actually!?09:38
slushpupiedoes ubuntu have OpenAFS packages?09:39
jesus-francoHeart_: hmm, it wouldn't hurt09:39
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_rootback09:40
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Kyraland Firefox 1.0.6 compiling09:40
_jatosthat better...09:40
Kyraldon't use XChat as root...09:40
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_jatosblack-whisp, any nearer to fixing your prob?09:40
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black-whisp_jatos: nope09:41
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_jatosright09:41
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black-whisp_jatos: cant even find the ***n config file. :S09:41
_jatosfind the samba config file black-whisp09:41
_jatosright...09:41
_jatosjust gimme a sec09:41
LuNaTiK^GuYi just installed netbeans....forced to install it to my Home folder....and a shortcut got created...but i cant launch the program :(09:41
hyrax42well I think I might have found the offending extension in my firefox at least09:41
_jatosI will find the config file in konqueror so I can tell you where it is09:41
LuNaTiK^GuYDetails: Failed to execute child process "/home/andrea/Applications/Net" (No such file or directory)09:42
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ulisseHi there09:42
_jatosbtw black-whisp, do you have msn or similar?09:42
HappyFoollooking for the samba config file? /etc/samba/smb.conf09:42
_jatosthanks happyfool09:42
black-whisp_jatos:  msn yup09:42
ulisseIs there anyone that knows something about CIFS mounts?09:42
_jatoscould you add jamie_whiteuk@hotmail.com please09:42
_jatosblack-whisp, are you ro....09:43
_jatos?09:43
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black-whispyup09:43
black-whispro2star09:43
_jatosyou might have just added me but fidning on my contacts...09:44
slask3nanyone know of a program to mix music in? real simple with samples and etc, like eJay maybe..09:44
naliothslask3n: audacity09:45
slask3n:)09:45
HappyFoolulisse: what do you want to know?09:45
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ulisseHappyFool, what should be the correct fstab entry to mount a cifs at startup?09:45
mebaran151hey09:46
mebaran151ever since I got a new Firefox update09:46
ulisseHappyFool, I already can mount the cifs, but at startup i get an error09:46
mebaran151I can't dll anything?09:46
mebaran151what do I do?09:46
naliothmebaran151: see the /topic09:46
HappyFoolulisse: what mount command do you use ? (remove any passwords, if necessary)09:46
mebaran151nalioth09:46
mebaran151ah I see09:46
mebaran151where might I find backports for AMD6409:46
naliothmebaran151: same place you find bp for x86 and ppc09:47
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mebaran151really?  all included09:47
KyralReminds me of my Gentoo days :P09:47
ricosuave17what program do u use to play videos09:47
KyralTotem, VLC, Xine...09:47
ulisseHappyFool, mount -t cifs //192.168.0.1/data /mnt/mountpoint user=XXX pass=XXX  (I'm not sure about the double slash, at this moment...)09:47
ricosuave17totem doesnt play mpgs09:47
Kyralit will if you install w32codecs :D09:48
JKRVLC.09:48
Kyraland Totem-Xine09:48
HappyFoolulisse: hmm. ok, and what's your fstab line?09:48
naliothmpgs require w32codecs?09:48
ricosuave17how do i install w32codecs?09:48
klaymsudo apt-get install w32codecs09:48
nalioths_dogricosuave17: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support09:48
KyralEnable all the Official Repos (INCLUDING BACKPORTS!) and then apt-get it09:48
JKRjust use VLC, plays everything09:48
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klaymI use totem, vlc and gxine. together they play all09:49
klaymgxine plays the most :)09:49
naliothricosuave17: but disable backports and extras after you get what you want, cuz using them regularly may cause your system to not upgrade09:49
ricosuave17why not?09:49
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ulisseHappyFool, i don't recall exactly (I'm not on that machine now) but something like //192.168.0.1/data /mnt/mountpoint cifs defaults,user=XX,pass=XXX 0 009:50
yahalomhow many of u guys actually use gnome?09:50
Kyralnalioth, I think the package names now get around that09:50
Kyralyahalom, I do09:50
lsuactiafneri used vobcopy -l now i have a .vob file, now i want to write it do a dvd so that a dvdplayer can play it used k3b.. or something else if it would be less hassle09:50
_jatoslooks like I going to have a long night helping black whisp09:50
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lsuactiafnerideas ppl?09:50
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LuNaTiK^GuYi cant Uninstall netbeans!! plz help me out!!09:50
Kyraldidja see jdong's post on the MB to all us wannabe backporters?09:50
yahalomKyral, how long u been using linux?09:50
PIANISTgood evening09:50
socommyahalom: I'd go out on a limb and say that the majority of Ubuntu's users use Gnome.09:50
HappyFoolulisse: let me see if i can get samba going here09:50
Kyral2-3 years09:50
mebaran151is Mozilla Regular broken?09:50
_jatosgood luck happyfool...09:51
epHow long do things stay in the pastebin?09:51
KyralI was a KDE man until a haitus during which I uses GNOME on the school computers09:51
yahalomsocomm, do u?09:51
socommyahalom: Sometimes, fluxbox at the moment.09:51
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yahalomKyral, ah :)09:51
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yahalomi just got the impression that many ubuntu users use xfce09:52
dataw0lfI sure do.09:52
dataw0lf(use xfce)09:52
KyralJeez, compiling. The only reason to o/c your processor on Linux09:52
socommyahalom: Ubuntu's defaults to Gnome.09:52
PIANISTlsuactiafner: what problem do yo have?09:52
dataw0lfKyral: It's called 'distcc'09:52
yahalomsocomm, i know09:52
zerboxxHey, I'm looking for a program that will act as an alarm, so when a it reaches a time (say 7am) it runs a command/program/whatever, anyone know of one?09:52
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Kyraldataw0lf, hey I forgot about that..09:52
dataw0lfOf course you did.09:52
thechitowncubshttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5086109:53
socommzerboxx: Cron.09:53
dataw0lfthechitowncubs: I'm replying currently.09:53
KyralAnyway, anyone who wants the latest Firefox I'm compiling it right now..09:53
PIANISTlsuactiafner: what problem do yo have?09:53
thechitowncubsdataw0lf: 10-409:53
PIANISTcause I read any ideas?09:53
socommzerboxx: Run `man cron' in a terminal for more indepht explanation.09:54
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lsuactiafnerPIANIST : need to write a .vob file i made by using vobcopy -l to a dvd so that the dvd play in a dvd player09:54
_jatos@thechitowbcubs, like that idea of yours09:54
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GerriallHey guys. How do I get Ubuntu to come up in CLI Run-level 3? Instead of starting X.09:54
Sputn1kubuntu dont have arial font?09:54
lsuactiafnerKyral : you will run into errors if you try compile it (:09:54
PIANISToh i c..... man.... sorry.... i cant help.. but i just came in and hoped to help someone09:54
mjrarial is an MS font09:54
dataw0lfthechitowncubs: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=265761#post26576109:55
mjrso, no09:55
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lsuactiafner!dvdrecord09:55
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, lsuactiafner09:55
Sputn1khow can i install arial? From apt-get?09:55
lsuactiafner!dvd09:55
uboturumour has it, dvd is There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem09:55
Kyrallsuactiafner, like what? Its going good right now09:55
lsuactiafnerKyral : i ran into an error09:55
lsuactiafnerforgot what it was09:55
HappyFoolulisse: hmm. i presume your original command was supposed to look something like this: sudo mount -t cifs -o user=guest,pass= //127.0.0.1/public mnt  ?09:55
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KyralWe will see :D09:56
lsuactiafnerthink it said something with the characters xp in it09:56
zerboxxsocom: So I can use this as an alarm type program, to start playing music at a given time?09:56
KyralI have had freeky compiles before09:56
ulisseHappyFool, yes, it could be...09:56
HappyFoolulisse: although that's not working. bah09:56
Kyralstuff that shouldn't have worked that did09:56
Kyraland vice versa09:56
mjrSputn1k, there's an installer named msttcorefonts in multiverse09:56
zerboxxsocomm: Put wrong name above, I can use cron as an alarm to start playing music at a given time?09:56
MafiI need help with nvidia drivers. when I replace by script the nv driver with nvidia I get a no screen error when trying to boot x. please help09:57
Sputn1kmjr where i can found multiverse?09:57
socommzerboxx: Yes, just have mplayer play a certain file at a given time.09:57
nalioths_dogSputn1k: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3809:57
nalioths_dogSputn1k: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:57
socommzerboxx: Also, xmms has an alarm plugin if you want a quick band aid solution.09:57
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HappyFoolulisse: do you have the smbfs module installed?09:58
zerboxxsocomm: Ok, and just offhand, what is a good mp3 player, I've been using rythmbox, but I've heard of xmms, and amarok09:58
HappyFoolulisse: i meant, package. as in, ubuntu package09:58
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ulisselet me check, HappyFool09:59
ulisseHappyFool, yes, it is installed09:59
Mafiwhy do I get a no screen found error with nvidia drivers for x?09:59
socommzerboxx: xmms is good, if you find xmms ugly try beep-media-player which is essentially xmms using gtk2.10:00
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zerboxxsocomm: Alright, thanks!  Would the xmms alarm plugin work with bmp?10:01
andrilhello all10:01
socommzerboxx: amarok is new on the scene and a QT app, so unless you don't mind installing some of the QT libs.10:01
andril anyone know what happened to smeg?10:01
socommzerboxx: Dunno, probably not.10:01
zerboxxsocomm: QT = quicktime?10:01
naliothandril: nothing happened to it10:01
zygazerboxx: qt, the toolkit used by kde amongst others10:01
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zerboxxzyga: Oh, ok, thanks10:02
andrilnalioth, i just reformatted and tried to add it - no go10:02
socommzerboxx: No, http://www.trolltech.com/ it's the GUI toolkit that KDE is built upon.10:02
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zerboxxsocomm: I'll give beep a try, I see they have their own alarm plugin10:02
naliothandril: did you use the script on Amaranth's homepage?10:02
socommzerboxx: Good luck.10:02
HappyFoolulisse: ok. I'm having no luck with '-t cifs', but '-t smbfs' is working10:03
socomm" Qt is a comprehensive C++ application development framework. It includes a class library and tools for cross-platform development and internationalization."10:03
andrilnalioth, the Starer Guide?10:03
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naliothandril: hang on for the URL10:03
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ulisseHappyFool, it should be the same, cifs is the new smbfs, with support for encryption10:04
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WebMavenFirefox broke when I updated, what do I do?10:04
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ulisseHappyFool, but I can't get the *fs mounted at startup...10:04
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KyralWebMaven, use the backports10:04
HappyFoolulisse: this line in fstab works for me :     '//127.0.0.1/public   /mnt/share smbfs   guest,rw        0       0'10:05
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WebMavenKyral: I don't know what that means, and I can't google for the answer.10:05
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socomm!backport10:05
ubotusocomm: I don't know10:05
HappyFoolulisse: maybe cifs isn't working because of some smb.conf issue; hopefully not relevant10:05
dbwis there a way to install a deb without having it check for dependencies, and without bugging me about it later?10:05
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socomm!backports10:05
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org10:05
aarcaneHow do I install irssi ?  sudo apt-get install irssi does naught10:05
Kyralthat :P10:05
aarcane!irssi10:05
ubotusomebody said irssi was http://f0rked.com/core/irssi10:05
HappyFoolulisse: anyway, as far as i can tell, your /etc/fstab line ought to work10:05
socommdbw: `man dpkg'10:06
naliothandril: here is a link to the latest smeg, you can use the installsmeg script   http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/10:06
HappyFoolulisse: what error do you get?10:06
WebMavenKyral: that *still* doesn't help me, I can't open the URL. :-(10:06
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ulisseHappyFool, tomorrow I'll be on that machine, if you'll be online I'l tell you further informations...10:06
Kyralsudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:06
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slask3nanyone know of a program to mix music in? REALLY simple with samples and etc, like eJay maybe.. not audacity, thats not easy, and it doesnt have samples either10:06
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HappyFoolulisse: maybe tomorrow night ( ~ 18h00 onwards, GMT time, though i might be out)10:07
Kyraladd these two lines to it10:07
Kyraldeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted10:07
Kyraldeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted10:07
Kyralthen save and do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:07
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ulisseok, thanks HappyFool, anyway Ill find a solution...10:08
Kyraland get Epiphany as backup :P10:08
dinhttp://img326.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fvwm4oo.jpg :p10:08
Kyralor links210:08
dinmy fvwm setup10:08
Kyralor lynx10:08
Kyralor Galean10:08
Kyralor Opera10:08
Kyralor Mozilla10:08
zerboxxsocomm: Umm when I attempt to play an mp3 with bmp it freezes, any idea why?10:09
Kyralor Konqeror10:09
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Dr_WillisHmm.. anyone else find the way the Search feature on the Ubuntu Forums to work -- to be.. well annoying? :P10:09
aarcaneHow do I install irssi ?  sudo apt-get install irssi does naught10:09
mjrirssi-text10:09
socommzerboxx: No idea.10:09
aarcanemjr, thankee10:09
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kolcvkaarcane,  i thought that irssi installs by default ..10:09
socommzerboxx: Check that you are using the esd plugin as opposed to the oss one.10:09
LuNaTiK^GuYwhere is the development subfolder in gnome?10:10
KyralNot there until you install an IDE10:10
dbwsocomm: i can get it installed, but now synaptic always says i have a broken package10:10
dbwsocomm: can't it just ignore all deps?10:10
LuNaTiK^GuYi installed Ajunta10:10
Kyraland then its Programming10:10
LuNaTiK^GuYnothing happened10:10
aarcanekolcvk, I tried to run it a few times resulting in failure >,.,<10:10
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qt2ARGH! >_<;10:10
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ulisseGood Night Everybody!10:10
kolcvk:(10:10
KyralLuNaTiK^GuY, killall gnome-panel10:10
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kolcvkaarcane, thats strange10:10
zerboxxsocomm: That did it, not sure why though10:10
qt2suck a simple problem, suck a complicated process to figure out how to fix it! >_<;10:10
qt2i cant handle it! :(10:11
socommdbw: You can with dpkg -i --force-all, which would in effect ignore all the deps and warnings.10:11
kolcvki have no problems with it10:11
kolcvk:)10:11
dbwsocomm: okay, i'll try10:11
LuNaTiK^GuYnothing10:11
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KyralNo "Programming" Menu in the Applications Menu?10:11
LuNaTiK^GuYhow can i know if it really is installed?10:11
andrilnalioth, got it how to install - sorta-noob - use to running "sudo apt-get install smeg"10:11
LuNaTiK^GuYno10:11
anders__hello10:11
LuNaTiK^GuYno "Programming"10:11
rubenvis it a known fact that firefox segfaults after the security upgrade?10:11
Kyralopen a terminal and type Anjuta10:11
Kyralyes, this is why there are backports10:12
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socommdbw: It ignores warnings and deps and forces install, just to clear it up.10:12
andrilnalioth, are Backports required to run the old command?10:12
_frankrubenv: yeah check the topic10:12
dbwsocomm: yes, i can do this several ways10:12
WebMavenKyral: Ok, it's updating 86 MB.10:12
dbwsocomm: but when i do apt-get check10:12
rubenvI assume a fixed package is on the way?10:12
LuNaTiK^GuYi typed: # anjuta10:12
dbwsocomm: i get lots of complaints10:12
LuNaTiK^GuYcoz thats wot it said on the manual10:12
LuNaTiK^GuYit took the command ...but nothing happened10:12
socommzerboxx: That's because esd is controlling your audio card blocking all other applications from accesing it.10:12
KyralWebMaven, ehh, there is a lot of upgraded backages in Backports :P10:12
LuNaTiK^GuYwhen i type: anjuta....its a bad command10:12
zerboxxsocomm: ...is this good?10:12
naliothandril: i installed mine using the script10:13
dbwLuNaTiK^GuY: log in as root, then type "anjuta"10:13
socommzerboxx: It's the UNIX way.10:13
dbwLuNaTiK^GuY: the "#" means you should be root10:13
naliothandril: i stay away from backports10:13
LuNaTiK^GuYohhhh...........10:13
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LuNaTiK^GuYi installed it that way too :)10:13
aehoI'm having really weird problem with firefox: I can't download anything by clicking download links, like gnome-look.org:s files always have download link, when I click that, nothing happens10:13
andrilnalioth, i agree where can I add this script10:13
LuNaTiK^GuYthen i need to re-install10:13
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MarkrianDo all USB 2.0 hard drives act as USB mass storage devices, i.e., will work on linux?10:13
qt2ack10:14
LuNaTiK^GuYcan ijust use sudo and not root?10:14
qt2anyone care to wate some time helping me with ac97 audio...?10:14
socommaeho: Any warning or error dialogs?10:14
KyralWhy are you against Backports nalioth ?10:14
lsuactiafnerKyral : compile fscked off yet?10:14
aarcanedbw, I make my normal prompts look like a root prompy, and my root prompt look like a rocket, lol10:14
Kyrallsuactiafner, nope10:14
anders__? i are thinking too set up and net radio but can ubutu bee uset at the head sever ??10:14
aehosocomm, no error dialogs or anything, nothing just happens10:14
lsuactiafnermarienz : depends on the the file system on the h/d10:14
WebMavenKyral: any downside to using the backports?10:14
KyralWebMaven, not in my experiance10:14
lsuactiafnerKyral : 1.0.6 source?10:14
socommaeho: You might want to double check firefoxes download settings.10:14
dbwaarcane: huh?10:14
naliothandril: here is a link to the latest smeg, you can use the installsmeg script   http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/10:14
aehoI can download using "save link as", but that doesn't work on sites which use php redirection or something like that10:14
ricosuave17i need the plugins for mpeg for totem. i have the codecs already10:14
Kyrallsuactiafner, the one from the Breezy tree10:14
aehosocomm, that started singe todays firefox update10:15
aehoI just reinstalled ubuntu, and I have the problem still10:15
aarcanedbw, PS1 customizaton..  you DO know how to change your prompts, right ?10:15
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lsuactiafneroh but thats not the same as compilin clean source from mozilla10:15
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Kyrallsuactiafner, I know :D10:15
zerboxxsocomm: Should I change it so it's using alsa or oss, or is esd good (and why are there 3?!)10:15
Kyrallsuactiafner, its basically what Breezy users are running right now10:15
DeMiis tightVNC better then vnc4 ?10:16
socommzerboxx: Just stick with esd, for now.10:16
DeMiwhat should i install?10:16
socommzerboxx: If for some reason you want to change it later, just do some research.10:16
Sputn1knalioths_dog, when i trying to update i got this http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)10:16
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ricosuave17? hello?10:16
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naliothSputn1k: so run your command again, your bzip2 errored out10:16
lostyhello10:17
aehoAm I the only one having this "download" problem with firefox?10:17
ricosuave17what do u use to play videos??10:17
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andrilnalioth, Thanks again - is the Starter Guide good to use?10:17
lsuactiafnernalioth : gunzip (:10:17
WebMavenKyral: generically speaking, what are the backports for?10:17
naliothandril: if you mean, ubuntuguide, i don't recommend it for new users10:17
naliothlsuactiafner: ??10:17
LuNaTiK^GuYchecking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool10:17
LuNaTiK^GuYwot does that mean?10:18
KyralWebMaven stuff from Breezy, but I gotta go. I suggest you look in the Ubuntu Backports Forum10:18
mrdavidI'm running ubuntu hoary.  the version of xmms is 1.2.10.  When listening to streaming music stations the artist name is not displayed.  on a regular debian box running the same version of xmms, it shows the artist.  Does anyone know howh to enable that?10:18
naliothandril: wiki.ubuntu.com//UserDocumentation10:18
lsuactiafner.gz files are gunzip not bz210:18
lostyhi, i was wondering if there is a complete newbie guide to dual booting with windows XP?10:18
ricosuave17losty:  ill have ya10:18
naliothlsuactiafner: read Sputn1k's error msg10:18
socommLuNaTiK^GuY: You probably need to install intltool, or libintltool.10:18
aehohttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11229 I found a bugreport of it, I have that kind of problem10:18
lostythanks ricosuave1710:18
lsuactiafnerheh i see10:18
LuNaTiK^GuYdoint that now ;)10:18
lsuactiafnershouldnt it be gunzip tho?10:19
ricosuave17losty:  what do u need help with?10:19
lsuactiafnerthats an error in the error code..10:19
socommaeho: Well keep an eye out for fix on that page.10:19
lostyi tried the Live! CD and loved Ubuntu10:19
dbwaarcane: of course10:19
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dbwaarcane: what do you mean "a rocket"10:19
lostyim using WIn XP10:19
naliothlosty: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo10:19
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lostyand want to dual boot10:19
lsuactiafnerSputn1k : just apt-get upgrade again10:19
ricosuave17it should do it automatically10:19
lostybut im completely a newbie to partitioning etc..10:19
lostythanks nalioth10:19
aarcane-=A ROCKET>10:19
dbwaarcane: wow, that's lame.  :P10:20
suzannCustomizing prompts is fun, heh..10:20
suzannand yeah, the rocket thing is kinda lame aarcane10:20
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suzannyou should get a thought bubble or something10:20
socommsuzann: I'm thinking of modifying my prompt to look like a rocket.10:20
aarcanebut I use the lame one for the prompt least used10:20
LuNaTiK^GuYconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH ---->>> how do i fix this10:20
lostyricosuave17: do you mean that when i install ubuntu it automatically will allow me to dual boot ?10:20
ricosuave17yes10:20
dbw*dbw@erebus:~$10:21
aehoLuNaTiK^GuY, maybe you should install C compiler10:21
naliothLuNaTiK^GuY: install "build-essential"10:21
socommLuNaTiK^GuY: `apt-get install build-essential'10:21
dbwthat's my ps110:21
LuNaTiK^GuY10q ;)10:21
suzannsocomm: you Shouldn't make it look like something you lack10:21
dbwthe first character indicates the last exit status.... the guy who wrote the ps1 HOWTO likes it :)10:21
lsuactiafnerroot@infant-finite ~10:21
lsuactiafner492610:21
lsuactiafnerheh10:21
dbwthe best is my logon message:10:21
dbw dbw@erebus ___| on /dev/pts/810:21
dbw   \   \_______| load: 0.49 0.41 0.3610:21
dbw    \__________| at 8 locations10:21
lostyricosuave17: so i dont have to use any partitioning programs or do anything before installing?10:21
lsuactiafnerlol10:22
dbwyeah, you know that's sexy10:22
ricosuave17well it depends on how ur HD is divided10:22
lostyits never been partitioned10:22
lostyits 40gb10:22
lsuactiafnerexport PS1='\d \t (\l)\n\e[01;31m\u\e[08;34m@\e[00;37m\h\e[08;34m \w\e[01;32m\n4926 '10:22
lsuactiafnerecho -e '\033[?17;0;64c'10:22
lsuactiafnertry that10:22
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socommsuzann: I dunno my Lamborghini is pretty fast. :^/10:23
LuNaTiK^GuYi'm getting  a lto of such errors: configure: error: Library requirements (        glib-2.0 >= 2.0.610:23
dbwlsuactiafner: what is 4926?10:23
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lsuactiafnermy prompt (:10:24
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lsuactiafnerinstead of $10:24
dbw...why?10:24
poningrucan someone pleace check out mozilla.org10:24
EnsignRedshirtHello, world.10:24
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poningruthe site seems to be down10:24
poningrubut can someone check?10:24
lsuactiafnerdbw : my name is iwan, spell it on a cellphone, you get that number10:24
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suzannsocomm: congrats for making up for other inequities and shortcomings with a fast car :)10:24
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aehoponingru, seems to work fie10:24
dbwlsuactiafner: i see10:24
aehofine*10:24
socommsuzann: Hmmmm?10:24
LuNaTiK^GuYhow can i fix it?10:24
LuNaTiK^GuYi'm getting  a lto of such errors: configure: error: Library requirements (        glib-2.0 >= 2.0.610:24
jeranponingru: I can't get it either10:25
dbwlsuactiafner: i'd show you my PS1, but it requires a whole script to set10:25
naliothponingru: the site is responding to pings10:25
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EnsignRedshirtponingru: I tried, and my browser is still waiting.10:25
Rugmonsterafternoon all10:25
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socommsuzann: There's always a critic, or as the kids say "hater".10:25
LuNaTiK^GuYplz i really need to get this working :S10:25
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suzannsocomm: and there's always some guy in a linux chat room flirting with me.  your point?10:26
poningruhmm ok thanks guys10:26
LuNaTiK^GuYi'm getting  a lto of such errors: configure: error: Library requirements (        glib-2.0 >= 2.0.6 etc etc etc..........wot now?10:26
EnsignRedshirtI have a newb question about burning a CD-RW.  In k3b, there are "start", "continue" and "finish" multisession options.  Presumably I start with "start" :)10:26
Rugmonsterwhat's the best way to disable gdm/xdm on normal boot? I upgraded to Breezy without reading the forums (like an idiot) and now, my system hangs hard when trying to start X.10:26
socommsuzann: Dunno, what is yours?10:26
poningruEnsignRedshirt: yep10:26
R_de_re-evoluciois firefox broaken.. meaning that it does not havce the last upgrade or that it is actually broken?10:26
suzannsocomm: don't claim to have something you don't.  be a man and be yourself instead of using a car to make up for a tiny..  well, lets keep it G-rated.10:27
EnsignRedshirt...and then to add stuff later, I use "continue"?  And then "finish" must mean no more data can be written to the CD?10:27
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poningruR_de_re-evolucio: firefox is not broken10:27
socommsuzann: What does this have to do with anything?10:27
EnsignRedshirtponingru: molliza.org finally came up.10:27
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scaroohi ppl! my hoary 's xkb setup is still all f***ed up even with the xkeyboard-config package installed, so i m looking for some compation and help :p10:28
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lsuactiafnerdwa : upload somewhere10:28
poningruyeah ic10:28
MihaiMcan someone who knows something about x and nvidia driver look at this please: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/706 I am stuck here10:28
lsuactiafnerand paste a direct link to wget10:28
poningruok thanks EnsignRedshirt10:28
R_de_re-evoluciothanX10:28
aehoponingru, for me it is, after the latest update I can't download anything using download links of most sites10:28
poningruR_de_re-evolucio: there are some security probs that have not been fixed yet10:28
LuNaTiK^GuYsocomm, i'm getting  a lto of such errors: configure: error: Library requirements (        glib-2.0 >= 2.0.6 etc etc etc..........wot now?10:29
poningruaeho: are you talking about the trunk or 1.0.6?10:29
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R_de_re-evolucioMihaiMlet me have a look... i use nvidia, does it refer to hoary or breezy?10:29
socommLuNaTiK^GuY: You'll need to install the dev libraries.10:29
poningruR_de_re-evolucio: I am talking about the ubuntu firefox10:29
poningrunot the 1.0.610:29
aehoponingru, firefox from ubuntus apt repositorys10:29
suzannsocomm: nothing at all that comes to mind.  I'm just tired of discussing this with some pervert who things that having a big so called rocket will lure me into some semblance of an R movie with him.10:29
LuNaTiK^GuYhow?10:29
scarooMihaiM, you are using the nv driver withnvidia glx libs10:29
scarooso :(10:29
poningruaeho: when was your last update?10:29
LuNaTiK^GuYsocomm, how?10:29
aehotoday10:29
MihaiMR_de_re-evolucio, hoary10:29
scaroorepace nv by nvidia in your xorg.conf10:29
socommsuzann: Umm ... we were talking about prompts, right?10:29
socommsuzann: You got issues ...10:30
poningruwow did not know it was out today10:30
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poningruhold on brb10:30
suzannas I knew it, we were, then you twisted it subtlely into discussions of other things.10:30
socommLuNaTiK^GuY: apt-get the library.10:30
scarooMihaiM, NV(0) <= xorg opensource driver10:30
R_de_re-evolucioponingru: I get you now about the ff thing ;)10:31
LuNaTiK^GuYsocomm, wots the name of the library?10:31
ricosuave17how do i make kaffeine full screen10:31
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socommLuNaTiK^GuY: I don't know.10:31
LuNaTiK^GuYlol10:31
MihaiMscaroo, sorry, don't understant. what sould I do?10:31
R_de_re-evoluciothis is the first i am here and i feel so welcomed.. I really love Ubuntu and this: us, the ubuntu community. You are inclusive, not like other communities...10:32
LuNaTiK^GuYany1 knows wot the name of the dev libraries is?10:32
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MihaiMscaroo, I use the nvidia driver from repositories10:32
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scarooreplace the line         Driver          "nv" by10:32
scaroo        Driver          "nvidia"10:32
loolLuNaTiK^GuY: libglib2.0-dev10:32
loolLuNaTiK^GuY: use "apt-cache search" to find out the other ones10:33
MihaiMscaroo, did that and with nvidia as a driver x does not start anymore10:33
scarooin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:33
MihaiMscaroo, yes, in xorg.conf10:33
R_de_re-evolucioanyways.. my question is: Does any of you guys know anything about a project or some fix for an agfa snapscan 1212p (not the 1212u)? It seems not to work under sane at the moment.. I've googled a lot without finding much else.. anyone?10:34
LuNaTiK^GuY10q lool10:34
scarooMihaiM, and what does the log says when using the nvidia driver10:34
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MihaiMthat's the problem. for some reason the driver does not work for me. I have a NV1810:34
nickrudI just restablished dsl service; I'm wondering if anyone is currently getting packages from archive.ubuntu.com and has better than 164KB10:34
MihaiMscaroo, now I think I've submited a newer log10:34
nickrudbytes per sec :)10:35
Rugmonsternickrud: nope10:35
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MihaiMscaroo, 1 second10:35
Rugmonsteronly about 130Kb/s here10:35
nickrudRugmonster, the last connect I had, it ran at 212; I'm trying to determine if that's available for anyone at the moment10:36
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MrGardenHoseMananyone know of any bittorent clients10:36
MrGardenHoseManbesides azureus10:36
dbwMrGardenHoseMan: bittorrent10:36
dbwMrGardenHoseMan: and bittornado10:36
RugmonsterMrGardenHoseMan: bittorrent...gnome's BT client10:36
nickrudah, well, that still beats dialup :)10:36
MrGardenHoseMani was thinking of something along the lines of bitcomet that can run 20+ torrents at once without sucking up too much ram10:37
naliothnickrud: are you stirring shtuff in here?10:37
MihaiMneed help on with nvidia driver. please look at this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/70710:38
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nickrudnalioth, no, just testing the dsl I had installed today; archive.ubunut.com consistently got the best throughput for me.10:38
LuNaTiK^GuYall dev libraries should be put in one single pack :S10:38
LuNaTiK^GuYto apt-get them10:39
xtaniumi need help... i am trying to install ubuntu on a powerbook (ppc) with os x already installed. the problem is- i dont want to erase my os x partition but still want to install ubuntu. i basically want to dual boot and resize my os x partition w/o erasing it10:39
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R_de_re-evolucionobody know about a sane related project for a device driver (Agfa SnapScan 1212p)?10:40
xtaniumplease help me10:41
xtanium:(10:41
MrGardenHoseMananyone know hwo to install a .jar file?10:41
mridleu dont really10:41
mridlejava *.jar10:41
MihaiMR_de_re-evolucio, can you look here, please? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/70710:41
supernixanyone here running a dns server ?10:42
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poningruxtanium: there is an experimental partitioning thing for ppc10:42
poningruthe problem is its experimental10:42
poningruas in you could lose your data10:42
poningruI can give you the link if you are brave enough to try10:42
R_de_re-evoluciook.. a better one gimpshop... is that just a proof of concept project or is there people working on it (parallel, of course, to the excelent work of the gimp-project)?10:42
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R_de_re-evolucioany info on gimp shop in repostories for ubuntu?10:43
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Trackilizerhey guys10:43
poningruxtanium: dude keep it in the room10:43
Trackilizeri really need your help10:43
naliothponingru: tell me, i'm a lab rat10:43
xtaniumwhere is it?10:43
xtaniumwhere can i find it10:43
poningruok let me go dig it out10:43
LuNaTiK^GuYhow does apt-cache search work?10:43
Trackilizermy videos dont have any sound anymore10:43
Trackilizeronly my videos dont have sound10:44
MihaiMneed help on with nvidia driver. please look at this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/70710:44
Trackilizermy mp3s do have sound10:44
MrGardenHoseManwhat's a bittorrent metal file?10:44
robotgeekTrackilizer, still hunting?10:44
mridleLuNaTiK^GuY:  what do you mean? apt-cache search keyword(s)10:44
ubernostrumLuNaTiK^GuY: type 'apt-cache search foo' and it gives back a list of packages which match 'foo'.10:44
Trackilizerthe thing is i do "killall esd"10:44
LuNaTiK^GuYthing is10:44
Trackilizerthen my vidoes have sound10:44
Trackilizerbut xmms doesnt10:44
LuNaTiK^GuYi'm getting  a lto of such errors: configure: error: Library requirements (        glib-2.0 >= 2.0.6 etc etc etc..........wot now?10:45
LuNaTiK^GuYand there are lots of packs10:45
mridleMrGardenHoseMan:  dont think that #ubuntu covers bittorrent ;P10:45
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MrGardenHoseManheh10:45
HappyFoolTrackilizer: tell your video player to use esd for sound output10:45
mridleTrackilizer:  try the esd+alsa howto and use the soundserver10:45
MrGardenHoseManwell technicaly i'm using the default ubuntu bittorrent client so it should :OP10:46
Trackilizererm... im a noob10:46
robotgeekTrackilizer, maybe you can run only one stream at a time10:46
MrGardenHoseMan:P10:46
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ubernostrumLuNaTiK^GuY: those errors show up when you type, say 'apt-cache search foo'?10:46
mridlethat way you should have sound both in xmms, ubuntusystem and videos (vlc,mplayer etc)10:46
robotgeekTrackilizer, we all learn :)10:46
LuNaTiK^GuYno no10:46
Trackilizeri dont know how do to any of the stuff you guys suggested10:46
poningrufound it10:46
LuNaTiK^GuYi'm trying to ./configure10:46
poningruhttp://www.sysresccd.org/index.en.php10:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a way to video chat in msn?10:46
xtaniumthanks :)10:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYin linux10:46
mridleTrackilizer:  which videoplayer are you using?10:46
poningruthere is an experimental ppc version of that10:46
LuNaTiK^GuYand then those erros come up10:46
Trackilizerwell it worked this mornig10:46
poningrubut again I would reccomend against using it10:46
ubernostrumLuNaTiK^GuY: so you're wanting to use apt-cache to find the packages you need to install?10:46
Trackilizerit stopped working after i installed Amarok10:46
poningrubecause you can lose your data10:46
Trackilizerxine10:47
Trackilizerand vlc10:47
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zerboxxAny help here?? I'm trying to install a plugin for bmp, and I'm getting the following error: "...This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed. configure: error: *** GTK+ >= 2.4.0 not installed - please install first"10:47
LuNaTiK^GuYhopefully yes :S10:47
MihaiMneed help on with nvidia driver. please look at this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/70710:47
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slask3nChurcH_of_FoamY: No, at least not as i know of... But if you find a way, please tell me! ;)10:48
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LuNaTiK^GuYthere r so many???10:48
LuNaTiK^GuYie10:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYk10:48
LuNaTiK^GuYthere are so many!!!10:48
_frankMihaiM: which drivers did you install?10:48
Trackilizerso anyone have suggestions?10:48
Trackilizerxone or vlc10:48
ubernostrumLuNaTiK^GuY: it may be that you'll need to tell 'configure' where glib is located on your system.10:48
ubernostrumzerboxx: same for your problem, too.10:49
LuNaTiK^GuYand how do i do that?10:49
zerboxxubernostrum: and how woul..10:49
slask3nChurcH_of_FoamY: Do you get your webcam to work in linux?10:49
MihaiM_frank, finaly someone :) I have done step by step what I have found in ubuntu guide10:49
ubernostrumLuNaTiK^GuY: usually programs you have to compile will come with a README or INSTALL file which tells you what flags you can pass to the configure script.10:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea i can if i want it i haven't tryed it though yet10:49
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RugmonsterLuNaTiK^GuY: you can check the options for a configure by passing it the --help flag10:50
LuNaTiK^GuYcheck that you have the latest libgnome and libgnomeui10:50
LuNaTiK^GuYthats wot the manual says ;S10:50
_frankMihaiM: I'm not sure what the problem is10:50
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Rugmonsteryou probably need the dev packages that go along with those packages10:50
MihaiM_frank, nvidia-glx10:50
Trackilizerany one please!!!!10:50
Cooner750i'm baaaaaaaaaaaack (again)10:50
MihaiM_frank, what can I do next/10:51
zerboxxubernostrum: Do I want to disable glib test?10:51
slask3nChurcH_of_FoamY: what webcam do you have?10:51
robotgeekCooner750, sounds like Deja Vu!10:51
Cooner750And I'm going to try my steps to install audio codecs and see if they work again10:51
Cooner750lol10:51
ubernostrumzerboxx: no, you probably want to find the configure flag to tell it where glib is on your system.10:51
LuNaTiK^GuYRugmonster, yes...how do i do that?10:51
ubernostrumzerboxx: like Rugmonster said, try './congfigure --help'10:51
LuNaTiK^GuYok10:51
ubernostrumBut without the typo :(10:51
_frankMihaiM: well if you just it to work again, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change nvidia for nv as the driver10:51
Rugmonsterapt-get install libgnome-dev libgnomeui-dev10:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYa little ge deal10:52
RugmonsterLuNaTiK^GuY: or, go in synaptic and find them10:52
MihaiM_frank, I need hardware acceleration. that's the problem10:52
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MihaiM_frank, now I use nv as the driver but I need somehow to figure out how to use nvidia10:52
ColonelKernelhow do I switch my systems gcc version from 3.3 to 3.4?10:52
Cooner750ok. Adding repositories10:52
robotgeekColonelKernel, what do u mean switch?10:52
_frankyeah I'm not sure how to help though10:52
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LuNaTiK^GuYok i'm installing the packages ;)10:53
Cooner750running apt-get update10:53
zerboxxubernostrum: I've done that...but I don't see anything about glib other than disabling the test10:53
MihaiMcan someone else help me with this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/70710:53
ColonelKernelrobotgeek I had 3.3, I installed 3.4, but the system still uses 3.3 to compile with10:53
RugmonsterColonelKernel: make sure it's installed and then either remove the /usr/bin/gcc symlink and remake it to point to 3.410:53
_frankMihaiM: can you paste your xorg.conf in the pastebin?10:53
MihaiM1 sec10:53
ColonelKernelRugmonster that10:53
robotgeekColonelKernel, do what Rugmonster said10:53
ColonelKernelRugmonster that sounds good - thanks10:53
RugmonsterColonelKernel: or, if you just need 3.4 for one thing, type CC="gcc-3.4" before your command10:53
Cooner750updating.../|\|/10:53
Cooner750done10:53
Cooner750installing ffmpeg10:54
MihaiM_frank, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/70810:54
MihaiMit's exactly the same xorg.conf, but just that with nvidia instead of nv it does not work10:55
Cooner750I tried installing codecs on my laptop and it froze...10:55
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robotgeekCooner750, it must be the windows component which did it!10:55
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ColonelKernelNICE - that worked wonderfully - thank you10:55
ColonelKernelam I going to have to recompile anything else?10:55
aehoto hear sounds I have to use "killall esd", but how I can start esd again=10:55
aeho?10:55
zenlunaticaeho: esd10:55
aehoto hear enemy territory sounds*10:55
_frankMihaiM: the only thing I can suggest is to comment out Load   "dri"   which is suggested in the nvidia readme10:56
ColonelKernelyou know what?10:56
^thehatsrule^start esd? heh10:56
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MihaiM_frank, do you know what dri stands for?10:56
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jasoncohenaeho, did you follow the sound multiplexing howto?10:56
desrtdirect rendering infrastructure10:56
RugmonsterMihaiM: read /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/README.txt10:56
RugmonsterMihaiM: comment out Load "dri", add Load "glx" and change your driver from nv to nvidia10:56
Rugmonsternevermind, you have load glx10:56
jasoncohenaeho, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206310:56
RugmonsterMihaiM: ATI uses it, but nvidia does not10:57
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A[D] minSGuys10:57
A[D] minShello ppl10:57
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robotgeekA[D] minS, hi10:57
A[D] minScan i know how i can disable artsd cause i want to ues Alsa only10:57
MihaiM/usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.0/README.txt: No such file or directory10:57
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annewhere can i find a firewall for ubuntu that is easy to install10:58
RugmonsterMihaiM: how did you install the driver?10:58
Rugmonsteranne: firestarter10:58
MihaiMRugmonster, by synaptic10:58
othernoobanne: use iptables ;)10:58
Rugmonsterokay...that is an old driver, but whatever10:58
desrtfirewalling ubuntu isn't really worth it10:58
_frankanne: in syanptic, install firestarter or guarddog10:58
Rugmonsterdesrt: you're on crack10:58
desrtRugmonster; ?10:58
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desrtRugmonster; what tangible benifit does firewalling your ubuntu box have?10:59
RugmonsterMihaiM: did you get the kernel module too?10:59
desrt*benefit10:59
MihaiMRugmonster, I use a N18 card anyway. that's a geforce 4 mx I think10:59
MihaiMRugmonster, yes10:59
MihaiMRugmonster, I think it's a dependince10:59
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Rugmonsterdesrt: same reason you would want a firewall on any system.10:59
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Cooner750YES! My instructions work on this system too11:00
RugmonsterMihaiM: I don't use the ubuntu package, so I don't know11:00
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desrtRugmonster; except that an ubuntu system has no outward-facing listeners11:00
MihaiMRugmonster, ok. I have the kernel module too11:00
RugmonsterMihaiM: yeah, once you change your config, it should work11:00
desrtRugmonster; i guess it's good if you want to prevent people from pinging you....11:00
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nadjylaBonsoir :)11:00
MihaiMRugmonster, I've comented dri and changed nv to nvidia11:01
A[D] minShow i can disable artsd cause i want to ues Alsa only ?11:01
LuNaTiK^GuYoh darn.....11:01
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MihaiMRugmonster, glx is already loaded11:01
desrtA[D] minS; try a kubuntu or kde help channel... i don't think anyone here knows11:01
MihaiMRugmonster, that should be enought?11:01
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Rugmonsterdesrt: I run samba and an internal webserver. I run a firewall on there to make sure only stuff from my network can get to it.11:01
LuNaTiK^GuYI Did this.....sudo apt-get install libgnome-dev libgnomeui-dev and its ok.........but i still get the same error msgs!!!11:01
desrtRugmonster; fair enough11:02
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naliothLuNaTiK^GuY: sorry, i havent been paying attention, what are you trying to install?11:02
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LuNaTiK^GuYthe Anjuta IDE11:03
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MihaiMRugmonster, I'll restart now. I will give you the result rigth away11:03
LuNaTiK^GuYand i'm trying to ./configure11:03
A[D] minSdesrt, ok thx11:03
RugmonsterMihaiM: DRI is what's messing you up, I believe11:03
LuNaTiK^GuYbut i get an error msg mid-way11:03
jasoncohen!multimedia11:03
ubotuI heard multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia11:03
LuNaTiK^GuYconfigure: error: Library requirements (        glib-2.0 >= 2.0.6       gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.8 etc etc11:03
jasoncohenubotu multimedia repositories is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories11:03
ubotuokay, jasoncohen11:03
jasoncohen!multimedia repositories11:03
ubotuI heard multimedia repositories is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories11:03
A[D] minSdesrt, working by alsa?11:04
LuNaTiK^GuYnot met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.11:04
RugmonsterI swear, i think my cell phone interferes with my wireless connection11:04
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naliothLuNaTiK^GuY: you are using source code for a newer system11:04
IFRFLYRhiI I have installed gtkwifi and can't seem to add it to my panel because it doesn't appear in the list when I click Add To Panel. . .  .Any ideas?11:04
A[D] minS!artsd11:04
ubotuA[D] minS: Wish i knew11:04
coobraroot :P11:04
naliothLuNaTiK^GuY: have you tried the backports or extras?11:04
A[D] minSlol11:04
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LuNaTiK^GuYall repos are available11:04
robotgeekRugmonster, happens to me too11:05
jasoncohenubuto multimedia is For information on adding multimedia codecs and about the available audio & video programs in Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia?action=show11:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhy is firefox busted?11:05
LuNaTiK^GuYwhat should i do now?11:05
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RugmonsterIFRFLYR: have you restarted gnome-panel?11:05
IFRFLYRAh, no. Thanks11:05
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jasoncohenubuto multimedia is "For information on adding multimedia codecs and about the available audio & video programs in Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia?action=show"11:05
naliothLuNaTiK^GuY: installing the glib it's asking for will break your system, i believe11:05
LuNaTiK^GuYso i shouldnt do that ok :)11:06
LuNaTiK^GuYyet i need a C/C++ ide11:06
robotgeeknalioth, do u know how we add PKG_CONFIG env variable, though11:06
MihaiMRugmonster, I've got a "module nvidia not found"11:06
RugmonsterLuNaTiK^GuY: vi isn't good enough?11:06
naliothrobotgeek: in your ~/.bashrc11:06
IFRFLYRRugmonster - is there a menu to do it from or must I use terminal? I just don't want to do it rudely and have never restarted the panel11:06
robotgeekvim rocks!11:06
LuNaTiK^GuYno no no i need a friendly IDE11:06
LuNaTiK^GuYno editors plz :)11:06
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LuNaTiK^GuYi need something NetBeans like11:06
mridleLuNaTiK^GuY:  eclipse11:06
robotgeekLuNaTiK^GuY, vim is very friendly :)11:06
MihaiMRugmonster, but I see the nvidia-kernel-common package in synaptic11:06
robotgeekoh okay11:06
RugmonsterIFRFLYR: if you just do killall gnome-panel at a term, it will start back up11:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhen will they fix firefox?11:06
MihaiMRugmonster, what's wrong?11:06
mridleeclipse or gvim :)11:07
IFRFLYRThanks, Rugmonster!11:07
RugmonsterMihaiM: when you type sudo modprobe nvidia, what do you get?11:07
mridlebut eclipse is good JDT, and CDT and you got java/c/c++ development11:07
jasoncohen!multimedia11:07
uboturumour has it, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia11:07
MihaiMRugmonster, FATAL: Module nvidia not found.11:07
robotgeekRugmonster, kdevelop? never used it though11:07
RugmonsterMihaiM: then you haven't gotten the kernel module :)11:07
LuNaTiK^GuYeclipse looks nicer11:07
MihaiMRugmonster, reinstall nvidia-kernel-common should do the job?11:08
andrilwhat's the verdict on Backports?11:08
naliothandril: keep them disabled unless you are actively d/l something11:09
robotgeekLuNaTiK^GuY, eclipse is huge!11:09
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boo_boocould anyone pls point me in a good direction to learn the basics of linux, totally new to the linux world and I am lost thanks in advance11:09
RugmonsterMihaiM: just a second, I think I can find you a link for step by step11:09
andrilnalioth, so they are oonly good for installing - otherwise have them disabled during regular updates11:09
MihaiMRugmonster, ok11:09
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nophixhow do you deny a specific user to log in via ssh?11:09
LuNaTiK^GuYi dont mind huge...as long as its a good IDE11:09
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naliothandril: correct11:10
aehoboo_boo, best way is learning by doing ;)11:10
naliothandril: backports are to become official, but it will take time after that for the software to sync11:10
gigaclonhow is firefox broken in hoary?11:10
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annei have located firestarter on tucows download, but they ask to order a cd copy not download directly, is it possible to download directly from the web site, or isnt it for free11:10
andrilnalioth, cool - BTW that wasmy previous problem - solved11:11
LuNaTiK^GuYbtw....can't i install NetBeans anywhere other than my home????11:11
RugmonsterMihaiM: have you seen this http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver11:11
naliothandril: great!11:11
gigaclonMPlayer doesn't work11:11
Rugmonsteranne: sudo apt-get install firestarter11:11
MihaiMRugmonster, that's the guide that send me into this problem :)11:11
Rugmonsteroh11:12
naliothanne: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13011:12
MihaiMRugmonster, the only possible solution my now is reinstalling the driver. ok?11:12
naliothanne: you can find a link to the homepage from there, (i hate d/l from tucows, they try to tack on all kinds of unwanted stuff)11:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYso anyone know when there gonna fix it?11:12
anneok i have to write those commands in terminal, is that so11:12
RugmonsterMihaiM: you could get the kernel headers and download the driver from Nvidia11:12
MihaiMRugmonster, I've made a kernel update after I've installed the nvidia driver. could that be the problem?11:13
annei am new at this, very glad you are here11:13
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naliothanne: are you terminal-only?11:13
gigaclonNew_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf) any help?11:13
MihaiMRugmonster, I try to stick with deb packages. I don't like source compiling for ubuntu because I'm not in control of deinstallation11:13
RugmonsterMihaiM: brb11:14
annewhat do you mean,11:14
naliothMihaiM: use "checkinstall" instead of "make install" and you will be in charge11:14
LuNaTiK^GuYi'm trying to Uninstall net beans....but i get the following error:  Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: run11:14
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MihaiMnalioth, I'll remember that11:14
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naliothMihaiM: checkinstall makes a deb when you invoke it (and then installes it for ya)11:15
aehogigaclon, have you installed a .deb package or compiled it yourself?11:15
naliothMihaiM: you can then use apt to remove it (or synaptic or whatever)11:15
gigaclonaeho: .deb package (from Synaptic)11:15
annewhat do you mean with terminal only, i have installed ubuntu from a cd11:16
robotgeekokay..i've got an irritating problem, sound skipping when i open a new tab/switch desktops...how do i increase priority for my media player?11:16
MihaiMnalioth, very nice. did not know that untill now. thanks11:16
aehogigaclon, I don't know about that then11:16
LuNaTiK^GuYHEY! i'm trying to Uninstall net beans....but i get the following error:  Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: run11:16
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annesorry, some language problems to, i am from norway11:16
ColonelKernelhow do I configure my locales?11:16
gigaclonseems lots of people have the same problem11:17
naliothanne: i recommend you avoid tucows, freshmeat or sourceforge is noncommercial http://freshmeat.net/projects/firestarter/11:17
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aehogigaclon, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/README maybe you have to install fonts manually, STEP5??11:17
LuNaTiK^GuYHEY! i'm trying to Uninstall net beans....but i get the following error:  Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: run plz plz plz plz plzzzz11:18
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aehoAnyway, mplayer is easy to compile yourself, and when you compile it yourself it should work11:19
gigaclonalso RealPlayer freeze when i try to run anything11:19
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naliothLuNaTiK^GuY: give us a break! wait a few minutes tween the same question. if some1 knows, they will answer you11:19
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LuNaTiK^GuYnalioth, sorry :S11:19
gigaclonneither the wma or rm is working11:19
MihaiMnalioth, one last solution. reinstalation of the packages did not work. where are the modules found in ubuntu?11:20
naliothMihaiM: what pkgs?11:20
MihaiMnalioth, I have the k7 kernel now, not the old 386 one. and I guess that the module nvidia is installed under the old modules kernel directory11:21
aehogigaclon, do you have w32codecs installed?11:21
aehoit is needed to play windows media files11:21
MihaiMnalioth, nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common11:21
LuNaTiK^GuYnalioth, i found a solution :) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29720.html11:21
LuNaTiK^GuY10ks ;)11:21
naliothMihaiM: i'm sorry, im not familiar with video stuff. you can use "locate" to look for them11:22
naliothLuNaTiK^GuY: great!11:22
R_de_re-evoluciodoesn't ubuntu come with iptables by default as firewall?11:22
R_de_re-evoluciohoary 5.04 ?11:22
MihaiMnalioth, I did this because modprobe nvidia give me module not found11:22
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naliothMihaiM: have you been to the wiki for nvidia installation?11:22
MihaiMnalioth, it's in /lib/modules11:23
naliothR_de_re-evolucio: iptables is default with all linux distros that i know of11:23
MihaiMnalioth, yes. no good11:23
kyncaniR_de_re-evolucio: no ...11:23
Cooner750ok. my codec instructions workd11:23
Cooner750work11:23
kyncaniR_de_re-evolucio: i mean not set up11:23
MihaiMnalioth, I'll copy the module form the 386 kernel to the k7 kernel and this will work11:23
_frankno11:23
naliothMihaiM: again, i run PPC machines and have no experience with nvidia, ati or other drivers11:23
MihaiMnalioth, ok11:24
slask3nWhere is the startup-script located so i can load modules at startup? i want to run "modprobe quickcam" at startup to load my webcam, but i dont know where to find the script, or the syntax of the script.. can anyone please help me?11:24
_frankMihaiM: you need to install the k7 restricted modules if you haven't already11:24
R_de_re-evoluciook... i see... see you soon then peace out (fre ut!)11:24
R_de_re-evoluciofred11:24
gigaclonaeho: yes11:24
LuNaTiK^GuYreinstalling netbeans.....cant get it to install anywhere but HOME :(11:25
Cooner750anyone here need to be able to play MP3d?11:25
MihaiM_frank, I install them know. what are those good for?11:25
Cooner750MP3s*11:25
naliothLuNaTiK^GuY: use "sudo"11:25
LuNaTiK^GuYok i'll try11:25
naliothCooner750: you have the codecs?11:25
_frankthey contain the nvidia module11:25
Cooner750nalioth: I made my own instructions, that work.11:25
LuNaTiK^GuYWOWWW nalioth....u've made another proud ubuntu user out of me ;)11:25
robotgeekslask3n, create a text file in /etc/modprobe.d/11:25
MihaiM_frank, the solution I have found was copying the module manualy11:26
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Sputn1khow to update firefox?11:26
Cooner750http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/cooner750/codecs82456.html11:26
MihaiM_frank, I don't know why nobody thougth about this from the start11:26
_frankMihaiM: from i386 to k7?11:26
MihaiM_frank, yes11:26
annenow i am downloading firehol 1.2... and choosed to save on disk, what do i do from there11:26
robotgeeksay u want to load the "modulex', create a text file "module x" in /etc/modprobe.d/11:27
_frankI don't know if that makes  sense11:27
MihaiM_frank, that might work11:27
robotgeekslask3n, say u want to load the "modulex', create a text file "module x" in /etc/modprobe.d/11:27
MihaiM_frank, I did not know about that restricted modules so I would copy manualy the module from 386 to k711:27
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naliothanne: did you look in synaptic for that program?11:27
Cooner750i'm going to probably add my instructions to my website (http://www.riccbhard.bravehost.com/) soon11:27
ElBaronomichael edwards is going to get carpal tunnel11:27
slask3nrobotgeek: ok :) but should anything be written in the file?11:27
robotgeekMihaiM, that would not work11:28
anneno, i can do that now11:28
MihaiM_frank, anyway on a tbitd 1700+ does the k7 kernel have a real spead increse?11:28
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_frankMihaiM: probably a bit of an increase11:28
robotgeekslask3n, either that /etc/modules ...add ur module to the end11:28
naliothanne: it is always best to look in synaptic first, before downloading from a website11:28
MihaiMrobotgeek, that would be my last option after reinstalling the driver, tweaking the config, etc11:28
naliothanne: using synaptic sets up the program for you11:28
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anneok thank you11:29
MihaiM_frank, do u use 386 or a processor specific kernel?11:29
robotgeekMihaiM, so u already recompiled against your new kernel?11:29
rkingso, i have an in-house apt repository, and all my hand-made packages get the "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" warning - what tools do I need to use to eliminate this?11:29
_frankMihaiM: I use k711:29
MihaiMrobotgeek, not recompiled kernel. I've downloaded with synaptic a k7 kernel11:29
MihaiM_frank, with nvidia?11:29
_frankMihaiM: yes11:30
naliothrking: you need to sign the pkgs with a valid gpg key (that is available from a keyserver)11:30
anneok but what do i look for in synaptic11:30
MihaiM_frank, and you folowed the exact steps as me?11:30
slask3nrobotgeek: now ive made a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ and its empty, or should it contain any text? i see the other files there have some text inside...11:30
_frankyeah11:30
rkingnalioth: and that's it?  that's not too bad. =)11:30
Sputn1khow to upgrade firefox 1.0.2 to 1.0.6?11:30
The_Voxrking: gpg is my guess...I'd look at the debian-policy documentation (install the package) and see how it's supposed to be11:30
MihaiM_frank, and why didn't you helped me from the start? :)11:30
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naliothrking: i'm sure it's more detailed, but in a nutshell, yes11:31
robotgeekslask3n, my bad...if you want to alias that module to something, you would add the text "alias modulex more_friendly_name_for_modulex" in the file11:31
MihaiM_frank, succefully installed the restricted modules11:31
_frankwell I helped you for a while11:31
robotgeekslask3n, to just load the module, just add it to /etc/modules11:31
MihaiM_frank, it worked11:31
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MihaiM_frank, thanks a lot11:31
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vladuz976does anybody know how to upgrade to oo 2.0 beta with apt-get11:32
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_franksure thing!11:32
slask3nrobotgeek: Ok :) should i delete the file in /etc/modprobe.d/ ?11:32
annewhat tool in synaptic do i have to use, its a lot to choose between11:32
MihaiM_frank, modprobe nvidia works now11:32
robotgeekslask3n, yeah11:32
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sriMihaiM: is this on breezy11:32
sriMihaiM: ?11:32
MihaiMsri, no11:32
kb00hedaDoes anybody know whether it is possible to change the window title for applications? (It is easy enough for terminals.)11:33
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naliothvladuz976: ooo2 is broken, be wary11:33
sriMihaiM: ah.11:33
Fideliocan anybody give me a checklist of things to check for when setting up a wireless connection in hoary?11:33
epsashey - is there a way to get all of Ruby's libs in one package?11:33
srinalioth: don't you need java to make it work?11:33
epsasi don't undestand why the 1.8 libs were split into all these seperate files11:33
vladuz976nalioth: oh ok. so better to wait then huh. right now i have 1.3 only11:33
othernoobnalioth only in the annoying repos ;)11:33
naliothepsas: use synaptic to search for "ruby"11:33
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othernoobvladuz976: you don't have to wait.. just don't get the one from the repos.. are you on broadband?11:34
slask3nrobotgeek: thanks alot for the help =)11:34
naliothsri: i don't believe java is required (but don't run oOo)11:34
epsasnalioth - uhhhh...  n/m11:34
Fidelioanybody have any wireless experience in hoary?11:34
vladuz976othernoob: yes11:34
epsas /ignore nalioth11:34
annesomeone that speaks norwegian here11:34
rkingthanks!11:34
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robotgeekslask3n, hope that works :)11:34
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slask3n:)11:34
epsaswhy were all of the ruby libs sepereated in the first place??11:34
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robotgeeksri, java is used only for the wizards11:34
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naliothanne: try #ubuntu-no11:35
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LuNaTiK^GuYdoes gnome have automatic window placement like in KDE?11:35
othernoobvladuz976: did you get the query?11:35
vladuz976othernoob: so just remove oo with apt-get and get the new one from their website?11:35
Mafi_frank, it works now. thanks a lot. 1600fps in glxgears11:35
vladuz976othernoob: what query?11:36
Mafi_frank, do you play eternal lands?11:36
othernoobvladuz976: yea i'll tell you what to do11:36
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gigaclonive installed mplayer and w32codec and still can't open windows media streams11:36
_frankMafi: 1600fps.... incredible!!! lol  I don;t know that game11:36
gigaclon.wax file11:36
othernoobvladuz976: the one where i sent you the link to precompiled OOo2beta debs11:37
Fidelioanybody in here using a d-link wireless card?11:37
Mafi_frank, it's just a geforce 4 mx...11:37
_franki know....11:37
naliothgigaclon: the newer wmv wont play under linux11:37
Mafi_frank, thaks a lot11:37
concept10Fidelio, what the problem?11:37
gigaclon.wax?11:37
Mafi_frank, bye11:38
FidelioI can't connect to my wireless network with hoary and my d-link card11:38
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concept10Fidelio, have you set it up?11:38
Fideliochecked the card, and it is apparently supported11:38
robotgeekFidelio, what's the model #?11:38
robotgeekFidelio, using ndiswrapper or normally?11:38
FidelioD-Link DWL-G520+11:38
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Fideliorobotgeek : normally11:39
concept10Fidelio, well you are in luck11:39
slask3nrobotgeek: another question: i have quickcam messenger (yes, the one that should not work in linux at all) andnow ive got the picture working now, i can see myself live trough xawtv :) but ive read that "The standard usb mic driver in the kernel works for the built in microphone as well.".. Where can i find this driver and enable it? if its not loaded already.. can you help me with that to maybe?11:39
gigaclonwell could you help me getting RealPlayer media to work11:39
FidelioI am?11:39
gigaclonI have installed the RealPlayer 10 Linux from real.com11:39
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concept10Fidelio, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DLinkDWL520E111:39
supernixanyone here running a dns server ?11:40
gigaclonbut it freezes on playing an .smil11:40
naliothgigaclon: have you been to the restricted formats page?11:40
NeoChaosXhm11:40
robotgeekslask3n, cool...i need to look for that driver too, never bothered to check my mic on the laptop..uno momento!11:40
gigaclonyeah11:40
NeoChaosXI see11:40
slask3nrobogeek: thanks again! :) your a great help for n00bs like me! :)11:41
slask3nrobotgeek: thanks again! :) your a great help for n00bs like me! :)11:41
NeoChaosXhow does one change the color of their name in XChat?11:41
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NeoChaosXor their own text in the chat, for that matter?11:41
othernoobvladuz976: you still here?11:41
robotgeekslask3n, is that a laptop u are using, and which one?11:41
naliothNeoChaosX: when someone says your nick their nick shades, i believe11:41
vladuz976othernoob: yes11:41
Fidelioconcept10: Why does ubuntu detect and install correctly?11:42
othernoobvladuz976: are you getting what i'm typing to you in private?11:42
robotgeekNeoChaosX, Settings -> Preferences -> text events11:42
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vladuz976othernoob: no11:42
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FidelioI mean the install the d-link card11:42
vladuz976othernoob: wait11:42
slask3nno, i have a stationary PC, and the mic is built-in to the quickcam messenger webcam11:42
NeoChaosXrobotgeek: no11:42
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slask3nrobotgeek: no, i have a stationary PC, and the mic is built-in to the quickcam messenger webcam11:42
NeoChaosXI mean when my own lines show up in XChat, not when someone says my name11:42
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robotgeekslask3n, sorry..have no idea abt that11:43
naliothNeoChaosX: idk, my irc client doesnt show colors11:43
concept10Fidelio, because some drivers for wireless cards are not open source, too many different configs11:43
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r2d4I am having problems with FTP (PureFTPd). Only some accounts can login. Any suggestions?11:43
robotgeekNeoChaosX, I think you wud change it from Settings--> Advacned --> text events..lemme check11:44
sun_hi. I have a question regarding linux / unix wildcards.11:44
concept10Fidelio, the install procedure shouldnt be too tough to accomplish11:44
pbiegajhey guys has anyone had any luck setting up  broadcom chipset wireless device using ndiswrapper11:44
pbiegaj??11:44
naliothsun_: ask your question11:44
Fideliook, but it seems to install the card without any problems....why doesn't it complain during initial installation?11:44
pbiegajI was able to get the module to load into the kernel11:44
Fidelioeven ls-pci shows the card as a 54mbps wireless card11:45
pbiegajhowever I can't seem to find a wlan0 device and therefore can't do an iwlist or anything of that nature11:45
slask3nrobotgeek: ok, but what was the command for installing .deb-files again? :P i just keep asking an asking :p11:45
sun_when I do cp -r * ~/test all files + directories get copied11:45
robotgeekNeoChaosX, the Your Message Column, I am not sure abt the colors and all11:45
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robotgeekslask3n, dpkg -i11:45
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Fidelioit can even go as far as detect the signal strength of the network.....11:45
gigaclonanyhelp for RealPlayer freeze on play11:45
NeoChaosXHm, I see11:45
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robotgeekFidelio, are u using wep?11:46
Fideliobuno11:46
slask3nrobotgeek: Thanks =) Have a nice night (if its night where you are too) =)11:46
sun_with cp -r *.py ~/test nothing gets copied11:46
NeoChaosXrobotgeek: I'll probably play around with it, then11:46
Fideliosorry, no11:46
NeoChaosXThanks11:46
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concept10pbiegaj, the card doesnt show up with ifconfig or iwconfig?11:46
pbiegajeither11:46
NeoChaosXokay, testing11:46
robotgeekslask3n, it's evening here. thanks anyways!11:46
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pbiegajthe module was loaded and I called ndiswrapper with the -i parameter and the proper .inf file11:47
Fideliocan a wrong driver give this type of limited functionality?11:47
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concept10pbiegaj, are you using the kernel that you compiled the driver with11:47
FidelioI thought a driver either works or it doesn't?11:47
pbiegajaccording to my syslog the dev created is /dev/ndiswrapper11:47
weiersHi. I have two machines in my home that is connected to the LAN at the college. One has IP address 10.0.65.3 the other is 10.0.65.4 I am trying to set it up that I can access all my files on 10.0.65.3 from 10.0.65.4. I installed NIS and NFS. Somebody gave me the advice to edit /etc/exports on the host machine: I inserted: /home/weiers 10.0.65.4 (rw,no_root_squash). Then on 10.0.65.4 I edited /etc/fstab and inserted /home/weiers 10.0.65.3:/home/weiers nfs def11:47
weiersaults 0 0. When I type mount /home/weiers however I get errore message: Directory to mount not in host: dir format. Can somebody tell me what I am doing wrong?\11:47
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NeoChaosXdh11:47
robotgeekFidelio, u are not able to connect to a network, is that all?11:47
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pbiegajno rather I dl'ed the ndiswrapper-utils package11:47
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pbiegajbut that's a good point11:48
pbiegajhowever if the package weren't compiled on the same version the modprobe would fail wouldn't it?11:48
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Fideliorobotgeek...yes, can't get a IP assigned from the router11:48
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pbiegajstating a mis match of the kernel header version it was compiled for11:48
robotgeekFidelio, can you take a look at "dmesg" output?11:48
Fideliobut if I run windows on the same system, I get a DHCP assigned IP and everything works11:48
Neonlightninghow do i add my harddrives to /mnt/ in the liveboot11:48
concept10pbiegaj, The driver must be compiled on the kernel that you use11:49
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Fideliorobotgeek, not right now...11:49
pbiegajI see well that would make sense, btw is there a good guide on how to compile deb packages from source, I'm new to ubuntu/debian coming from slackware11:49
Fideliowhat should I look for?11:49
pbiegajbut the package manager is just too good on these distros ( I know I can get it for all )11:50
binahow do you start/stop services in ubuntu? i cant find the service program11:50
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robotgeekFidelio, why not?11:50
Zodiachey fellas11:50
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ZodiacQuestion, how do I install firefox extensions with ubuntu?11:50
pbiegajI know I saw a how to on doing this with the ndiswrapper module compiling it against your kernel headers into debian packages and then installing those11:50
Neonlightningpbiegaj, i like the package manager in mandrake rpmdrake its called11:50
pbiegajbut I can't seem to find it again11:50
kafeineZodiac, the same way you would install them with anything else11:50
pbiegajI had a couple of bad experiences with rpm11:51
Fideliorobotgeek, give me a few secs if you can...11:51
pbiegajand am not a huge fan11:51
kafeineyou click on the link or the downloaded file11:51
Neonlightningahh11:51
binaZodiac: Usually you can install extensions through Firefox itself.  You click on a link and it asks you to install it11:51
concept10pbiegaj, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto11:51
pbiegajcheers thanks11:51
Zodiachmm11:51
Jurgon1I get this Errror message: Package gstreamer-0.8 was not found in the pkg-config search path.11:51
Jurgon1Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gstreamer-0.8.pc'11:51
Jurgon1to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable11:51
Jurgon1No package 'gstreamer-0.8' found11:51
Jurgon1configure: error: you need gstreamer development packages installed !11:51
ZodiacWhy the heck am I having problems then11:51
robotgeekFidelio, sure...just paste in #floods or the pastebin11:51
concept10!broadcom11:51
ubotuconcept10: Are you smoking crack?11:51
Neonlightningso can someone help me add my harddrives to /mnt/ in the liveboot so i can move around some files11:51
binaZodiac: what extension you trying to install?11:51
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robotgeekJurgon1, pastebin/#floods11:51
pbiegajI'm gonna give this a go11:51
pbiegajbrb, thanks for the help guys much appreciated11:51
funkyHatubotu, you are smoking crack, AGAIN, what did i tell you about that?11:52
ubotufunkyHat: what are you talking about?11:52
MrGardenHoseMananyone know if there's an azureus package for apt-get?11:52
Antinomycan someone give me quick partition advice?11:52
NeoChaosXLet's see if this color combo works11:52
ZodiacWhoops11:52
Zodiacmy bad11:52
NeoChaosXokay, again11:52
Zodiachad to get the latest version of Firefox I guess11:52
Jurgon1Where can i get the Gstreamer development packagde?11:52
Zodiaccause it worked11:52
Zodiacha11:52
ZodiacDanke11:52
concept10bina, if you are looking for a program to start/stop services sort of like red hat .. sudo apt-get install bum11:52
binaAntinomy: maybe what advice you want?11:52
Fideliorobotgeek : can you give me the link to pastebin?11:52
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Antinomybina:  creating a dual boot11:52
binaconcept10: cool thanks :)11:52
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robotgeek!pastebin11:53
ubotuhmm... pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood11:53
binaAntinomy: what would you like to know11:53
funkyHathas there been a fix to firefox in the past 4 or 5 hours?11:53
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Antinomybina: I have created a 7GB drive in fat 32 for XP11:53
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binaright11:53
robertj_heya all.11:53
Neonlightninginstall xp before installing linux usually11:53
Antinomybina: I have freespace left to make a fat32 shared drive, an ubunut OS drive, and a swap11:53
Neonlightningstands true for most windows11:53
weiersCan somebody explain to me what the following message means: mount: directory to mount not in ost: dir format (I am trying to mount the home directory of one computer on another)11:54
Antinomybina: right now the XP drive is primary11:54
turkuazhi, does anyone know if x is still broken in breezy11:54
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Night_LordSsssoooommmmmeeeeeeeooooooonnnnnnneeee   hhhhhelppppp11:54
Antinomybina: so I want to partition the remaining drives out of the free space11:54
Night_LordI     ggggggooooottt a     mmmmmaaaaajooooor  prrrrooooooobbbbbbblllllleeeeeemmmm    heeerrrrrre!!!!!!11:54
Neonlightningyou really do11:54
Antinomybina: I go to do this11:54
funkyHatAntinomy, if you are installing XP on an fat32 partition, do you need to create a shared partition?11:54
concept10uboto broadcom is Help using ndiswrapper to install a Broadcom chipset-based wireless LAN card see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto11:54
robotgeekNight_Lord, are u making that up?11:54
Neonlightningyou need to learn to type one letter at a time11:54
Night_Lordmmmy     kkkkkeyyyy     rrrrrepppppeeeeeeattttttsssssss            aaaarrrrre mmmmessssssssssssiiiiinnnggggggggg  uuuup11:54
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Neonlightningoh lol11:54
desrtNight_Lord; do you have an AMD with powersavings enabled?11:54
Night_Lordaaaaaammmmd      yyyeeessssssssssss,,,,,,  nnnooooot     pppppppooooowwwerrrsssaviiiiinnnnnnnngggg11:54
desrtNight_Lord; is it an SMP box?11:55
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robotgeeklol!11:55
concept10uboto, broadcom is Help using ndiswrapper to install a Broadcom chipset-based wireless LAN card see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto11:55
slask3nAnyone knows how to enable/install the driver they talk about in this quote: "The standard usb mic driver in the kernel works for the built in microphone as well." ?11:55
Night_Lordsmppp?????11:55
Antinomybina: and it's asking wherther the drives I'm creating are primary or logical, and I'm not sure what to answer11:55
desrtnevermind.  maybe your key repeat is just set really high :)11:55
Rugmonsterlol11:55
desrtNight_Lord; try desktop -> preferences -> keyboard11:55
Neonlightninglol11:55
concept10!broadcom11:55
ubotuconcept10: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:55
desrtNight_Lord; and turn down your key repeat rate11:55
Night_Lordooooookkkk11:55
_frankNight_Lord: LOL11:55
Rugmonsterthat's too funny11:56
desrtyou want "long" and "slow"11:56
dinbbl, time to go home11:56
binahmm, most prob logical I think.  Better see what someone else says just to be safe :).11:56
Dr_Williswell Ubuntu Installed on my new laptop - time for first reboot.. here goes.11:56
qt2was anyone else having problems with binding the multimedia volume buttons to something other than the master slider?11:56
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Night_LordHows this?11:56
robotgeekqt2, me!11:56
desrtNight_Lord; better, it seems :)11:56
AntinomyfunkyHat: can youy chat with me for a sec?11:56
funkyHatqt2, me!11:56
Night_LordNo, I still get the occaisssssiiioonal problem11:56
desrtarf.11:56
binaconcept10: no bum found :'(11:56
Night_Lordturning it off helps11:56
steven_hey how can i stop the gdm, so it doesnt start at boot time?11:56
desrtsomething is wrong with your kernel, i suspect11:56
qt2robotgeek, funkyHat, i've patched together a workaround. ;)11:56
abbe80I have had this problem for about a week: www.hio.no is so slow, it takes 1 minute before the page is loading in firefox (1.0.4). All other pages loads just fine. When I do a wget www.hio.no the index.html downloads fast. Anyone with an idea what this can be ?11:56
funkyHat:D11:56
Neonlightningwhat is the loging for root on the unbuntu live cd11:56
Night_Lordbut then i gotta tap backspace to delete old characters11:56
Night_Lordi get it EVERY time i install ubuntu11:57
robotgeekqt2, what to do?11:57
steven_can sombedy help me out with that?11:57
desrtNight_Lord; i had exactly the same problem when i was using powersavings on my old amd system11:57
Night_Lordanyone know a solution?11:57
funkyHatgo ahead Antinomy11:57
qt2zeedo, robotgeek, funkyHat, join #ubuntu-pcm11:57
Rugmonstersteven_: I asked the same thing earlier11:57
Night_Lordhow do i check if i got powersavings?11:57
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desrtNight_Lord; go to a term11:57
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desrtand type: lsmod | grep amd11:57
qt2err11:57
concept10bina, http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html11:57
steven_Rugmonster, i just got to the channel11:57
qt2zerboxx even11:57
steven_Rugmonster, can you help me out11:57
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Rugmonstersteven_: I haven't really looked into it yet. I'll let you know if I figure it out11:58
lostyj t11:58
weiersCan somebody please point me to a howto or a manual on how to set up a home network. I really want to learn, but I am not getting any response from this group.11:59
binaconcept10: thanks :) again11:59
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Night_Lordwas it meant to do something?11:59
MIK3MANhey all11:59
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steven_how can i stop gdm so it does not start at boot time please help me11:59
MIK3MANcan someone plz try and help me configure java?11:59
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MrGardenHoseManis there any way to make the terminal transparent11:59
rogerm11:59
Night_Lordyes12:00
MrGardenHoseManit's a pain when you can't see anything behind it12:00
DaveyI just got my Ubuntu Ship-It CDs, man these things are *slick*12:00

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