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| AndyFitz | hey hey | 12:24 |
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| lukacu | hi | 12:24 |
| lukacu | question: that list ... of icons to be made and the ones that are finished ... etc. ... does it exist? | 12:27 |
| Nafallo | 18:28 < Nafallo> gothcat thinks the boxes for archives should be closed if the | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | files are not unpacked :-) | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | 18:28 < Nafallo> ^ talking about humility | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | 18:30 < ogra> heh, cool idea, but if you unpack a archive it gets a folder | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | normally.... | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | 18:30 < ogra> or a number of files | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | 18:32 < Nafallo> yea. I think the point is more like: it's an archive. that | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | should be a closed box. | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | AndyFitz: ^ | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 12:30 |
| AndyFitz | Nafallo | 12:48 |
| AndyFitz | I agree | 12:49 |
| AndyFitz | that icon was first made for file roller. I'll draw a similar but closed box for archive types | 12:49 |
| Nafallo | AndyFitz: she smiles happily :-) | 12:50 |
| AndyFitz | I always knew it was silly . just waiting for someone to pull me up on it and make me do the work. ;-) | 12:51 |
| Nafallo | hehe :-) | 12:51 |
| AndyFitz | sadly I really have to go ( I'll be away for the weekend ) | 12:51 |
| AndyFitz | hopefully online later today however | 12:52 |
| Nafallo | AndyFitz: same here. I'm just here to get my X fixed again ;-) | 12:52 |
| AndyFitz | ciao mate , take care and thanks for pointing it out :) | 12:52 |
| Nafallo | AndyFitz: take care to and I'll see you around :-). | 12:53 |
| AndyFitz | you to mate :) | 12:54 |
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| volvoguy | hey folks. | 02:27 |
| volvoguy | did i miss Andy or hasn't he been on yet today? (i can never keep track of timezones on the other side of the planet) :) | 02:28 |
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| ogra | volvoguy, gworldclock is very helpful ;) | 02:30 |
| Nafallo | 02:32 now :-) | 02:30 |
| volvoguy | :-) thanks. | 02:31 |
| ogra | Nafallo, you need to say where :) 02:29 in germany btw :) | 02:32 |
| ogra | hmm, my clock is slow... | 02:32 |
| Nafallo | ogra: I did.. here :-) | 02:32 |
| ogra | ah, yes, *here* :) | 02:32 |
| volvoguy | i just had a great talk with one of the Foresight Linux people. Apparently they're working on a SOAP based system to combine the artwork on gnome-looks.org, kde-looks.org and art.gnome.org. the results could be accessed via the web or a standalone app (like the gnome-art app). | 02:33 |
| Nafallo | hmm, I just tried to tune my irssi time by running ntpdate on the lappy :-P | 02:33 |
| volvoguy | i'm in detroit, michigan, usa. | 02:33 |
| volvoguy | it would be possible to make our future ubuntu art website part of the global "artwork repository". sounds pretty cool to me. | 02:35 |
| ogra | yep, sounds good :) | 02:35 |
| Nafallo | yay! that could hopefully kill the phpgroupware idea :-) | 02:36 |
| ogra | heh | 02:36 |
| ogra | i still have no idea wat for we'd need a groupware... | 02:36 |
| ogra | s/wat/what | 02:36 |
| Nafallo | same here | 02:37 |
| volvoguy | i'm not really sold on the groupware idea yet either. | 02:37 |
| volvoguy | i think for our "official" ubuntu artwork, CVS would be fine for keeping track of things. | 02:38 |
| Nafallo | wiki+bazaar+art.g.o software would be a good start :-) | 02:38 |
| ogra | yep | 02:38 |
| ogra | Nafallo, but you have to teach baz to all the artwork guys then :) | 02:39 |
| Nafallo | ogra: but not cvs? | 02:39 |
| Nafallo | I've never really used either, but I've heard baz rocks! :-) | 02:39 |
| volvoguy | we'll have wait and see. i don't think everyone (including myself) knows the full scope of what Ubuntu ultimately wants from us. | 02:40 |
| ogra | Nafallo, always give users the tools they need... | 02:40 |
| ogra | volvoguy, just artwork... the best we can get :) | 02:40 |
| ogra | so if CVS is required, we'll have CVS .... | 02:40 |
| Nafallo | cvs is the most _known_ solution I guess :-) | 02:41 |
| ogra | ... which doesnt mean there cant be some bazarr classes to teach the people Nafallo | 02:41 |
| Nafallo | ogra: kewl. start with me then :-). | 02:41 |
| volvoguy | ogra: yes - but for ubuntu's purposes, there's really not a huge amount of artwork we need to collaborate on - icons, 6 backgrounds per release, maybe some theme tweaks and/or variations. | 02:42 |
| ogra | Nafallo, i'm still learning myself, but i could get us the guy who wrote baz to teac us :) | 02:42 |
| ogra | volvoguy, the iconsets are not small | 02:42 |
| volvoguy | ogra: is bazzar some kind of versioning system? | 02:42 |
| ogra | yep | 02:43 |
| ogra | its the one we develop at canonical | 02:43 |
| ogra | and the one launchpad will use | 02:43 |
| Nafallo | ogra: lifeless IIRC? | 02:44 |
| volvoguy | ogra: no, they're not small, but they're relatively small compared to having hundreds of devs working on a piece of software. | 02:44 |
| ogra | Nafallo, lifeless is rather a manager... jblack would be good to teach us | 02:44 |
| volvoguy | i've been meaning to ask my Canonical contacts what/if/why/how we could be part of launchpad. | 02:45 |
| Nafallo | ah, oki :-) | 02:45 |
| ogra | volvoguy, i dont think mark planned a artwork area for launchpad... thats probably something to be added now | 02:45 |
| Nafallo | right now there isn't really a need to be on launchpad IMO. sabdfl might have something else to say about that though ;-) | 02:47 |
| Nafallo | for this team that is... | 02:47 |
| volvoguy | ogra: i agree. i don't think we were planned in any aspect until recently - that's why it's taking so long to get things done on their end for us. | 02:48 |
| volvoguy | so how would launchpad be classified? is it kinda like a project manager? | 02:48 |
| ogra | its "sourceforge next generation" | 02:49 |
| Nafallo | right now it's bug-tracker, translation area and team management. something like that :-) | 02:50 |
| ogra | it will be source management and package builder too in the future | 02:51 |
| volvoguy | nice. :) | 02:51 |
| ogra | and the target is community collaboration in any way... so artwork might be part of the general plan | 02:51 |
| ogra | anyway, GF pokes me... nearly 3am.... | 02:52 |
| Nafallo | anyway. I have to wake up early tomorrow. | 02:52 |
| ogra | time for bed... :) | 02:52 |
| ogra | i dont... | 02:52 |
| Nafallo | what ogra said ;-) | 02:52 |
| ogra | but still | 02:52 |
| Nafallo | We're going to Oslo to spend the weekend with tfheen and Simira :-) | 02:53 |
| volvoguy | oh sure... i finally get in here and you all leave me. ;-) just kidding. get some sleep and i'll get some food. we'll catch up later. (remember, this channel is being logged now). | 02:53 |
| ogra | Nafallo, seeing the new flat ? | 02:54 |
| ogra | volvoguy, yep... nice to meet you (finally (even if its virtual)) | 02:54 |
| Nafallo | ogra: naah. that's not until 4th august :-) | 02:55 |
| ogra | ah... i just saw some pics... | 02:55 |
| volvoguy | ogra: thanks. same here! have a good time on your trip. | 02:55 |
| Nafallo | ogra: oh? | 02:55 |
| ogra | Nafallo, he posted them... i dont have the links anymore... i guess he'll show it to you ... | 02:56 |
| Nafallo | volvoguy: yepp. will see you later :-). | 02:56 |
| Nafallo | ogra: hehe, indeed :-). | 02:56 |
| Nafallo | anyway. good night guys :-) | 02:57 |
| volvoguy | Nafallo: g'night! | 02:57 |
| ogra | yep...same goes for me, night | 02:57 |
| volvoguy | ogra: g'night. :) | 02:57 |
| ogra | :) | 02:57 |
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| mpathy | hi there | 10:24 |
| lukacu | hello | 10:25 |
| mpathy | i set up this tool someone suggested.. not that we should use it, but the range of things that you can do there would make sense! would you have a look? ;) http://ubuntu-artwork.seework.com user: demo password: demo | 10:30 |
| lukacu | ok | 10:31 |
| lukacu | well ... it looks nice ... but what bothers me is the side ad-bar | 10:36 |
| ogra | could someone elaborate what for we need this ? | 10:36 |
| ogra | its all already there in the ubuntu wiki... (assuming you read the ML) | 10:37 |
| lukacu | ogra: hm ... nope ... just checking it out to see if it fits our needs ... but i agree that wiki is also cool ;) | 10:39 |
| mpathy | someone suggested it, i had a look on it. we dont need or want that, because its not open source - but the things they use make sense.. only for visualizing! | 10:39 |
| ogra | hmm... its a project tool, right ? | 10:39 |
| lukacu | yup | 10:39 |
| mpathy | again: i dont think we should use that. but it helps to visualize what we perhaps need.. :) | 10:40 |
| ogra | i think we need to have a project plan, but i do not see the need to modify it every now and then ... :) | 10:40 |
| ogra | so a single page with this plan should be enough, or am i wrong ? | 10:40 |
| lukacu | it depends on how well the team is organized and how well they know what they can do in wiki and what not | 10:42 |
| mpathy | okay.. but it should be well structured.. | 10:42 |
| mpathy | the docteam has structured wiki pages! | 10:42 |
| lukacu | yup | 10:43 |
| mpathy | but i thought if we get external webspace we could do a little bit more than a wiki.. | 10:43 |
| mpathy | something where not only we, but also normal ubuntu users have some use of it | 10:44 |
| mpathy | like the art.gnome.org | 10:44 |
| ogra | art.ubuntu.com :) | 10:44 |
| mpathy | right | 10:44 |
| mpathy | but not only for us, also for ubuntu user who want to download nice wallpapers, themes, splash screens, grub and bootsplash etc. | 10:45 |
| mpathy | or is searching of a tutorial how to set up a new splash screen.. | 10:46 |
| ogra | yep, and something like gnome-art to integrate directly with the desktop... | 10:46 |
| ogra | (i guess KDE finally got something like that too finally) | 10:46 |
| mpathy | what do you mean exactly? i dont get it.. perhaps its too early in the morning :) | 10:47 |
| ogra | there is a tool the integrates artwork from a weblocation directly with the desktop, for example you want a new wallpaper, you have something verysimilar to the wallpaper selector, but it pulls all data directly from the online source | 10:48 |
| lukacu | that is nice... | 10:49 |
| ogra | its called gnome-art ... | 10:49 |
| ogra | and i saw something like that for KDE too recently... | 10:49 |
| mpathy | NICE | 10:49 |
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| lukacu | but right now we need team organisation infrastructure ... | 10:51 |
| mpathy | http://www.miketech.net/gnome-art/ | 10:52 |
| mpathy | right | 10:52 |
| lukacu | it is very nice though | 10:53 |
| mpathy | downloaded it and have a look on it.. its in ruby :o) | 10:54 |
| ogra | eek, ruby ... | 10:56 |
| lukacu | :) | 10:57 |
| ogra | that means we wont have it in main .... | 10:57 |
| mpathy | ogra: huh? | 10:57 |
| mpathy | ogra: because of some python fanatics? ;) | 10:57 |
| ogra | we have nobody who wants to remotely maintain ruby stuff... its a PITA.... | 10:57 |
| lukacu | :) | 10:58 |
| mpathy | why? | 10:58 |
| ogra | maintainig ruby packages is awful | 10:58 |
| mpathy | specify ;) | 10:58 |
| ogra | because of the structure of the packages... | 10:58 |
| ogra | and because nobody is fond to learn ruby ... we could really needsome ruby oriented MOTUs | 11:00 |
| ogra | t maintain this stuff.... | 11:00 |
| ogra | s/t/to | 11:00 |
| mpathy | I am not so good at ruby.. to be a maintainer.. | 11:00 |
| mpathy | but i hope this summer it will change.. | 11:01 |
| ogra | drop by in #ubuntu-motu if you feel ready :) ruby is a unloved child in ubuntu.... someone should give it some love :) | 11:02 |
| mpathy | for sure! | 11:09 |
| ogra | :) | 11:11 |
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| mpathy | back again | 03:48 |
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| Mats_ | bonjour a tous :) | 06:00 |
| lukacu | hello | 06:01 |
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| olivier | Greetings | 10:43 |
| lukacu | hi | 10:44 |
| olivier | Just to tell that, few month ago, I made a 2 minute .png for the "ubuntu love days" : http://yet.another.linux-nerd.com/2005/03/07/41/ | 10:46 |
| olivier | I won't have time for ubuntu artwork in the near future but I'll try to do some stuff later. | 10:47 |
| lukacu | i think that is no problem | 10:48 |
| olivier | Yeah, there's a lot of people willing to help. | 10:49 |
| lukacu | yup ... btw nice ubuntu logo variation | 10:50 |
| olivier | thx | 10:52 |
| lukacu | i think you can come whenever you like ... there will always be something to do ;) | 10:54 |
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