=== AndyFitz [~andy@nat-pool-brisbane.redhat.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:24] hey hey [12:24] hi [12:27] question: that list ... of icons to be made and the ones that are finished ... etc. ... does it exist? [12:30] 18:28 < Nafallo> gothcat thinks the boxes for archives should be closed if the [12:30] files are not unpacked :-) [12:30] 18:28 < Nafallo> ^ talking about humility [12:30] 18:30 < ogra> heh, cool idea, but if you unpack a archive it gets a folder [12:30] normally.... [12:30] 18:30 < ogra> or a number of files [12:30] 18:32 < Nafallo> yea. I think the point is more like: it's an archive. that [12:30] should be a closed box. [12:30] AndyFitz: ^ [12:30] :-) [12:48] Nafallo [12:49] I agree [12:49] that icon was first made for file roller. I'll draw a similar but closed box for archive types [12:50] AndyFitz: she smiles happily :-) [12:51] I always knew it was silly . just waiting for someone to pull me up on it and make me do the work. ;-) [12:51] hehe :-) [12:51] sadly I really have to go ( I'll be away for the weekend ) [12:52] hopefully online later today however [12:52] AndyFitz: same here. I'm just here to get my X fixed again ;-) [12:52] ciao mate , take care and thanks for pointing it out :) [12:53] AndyFitz: take care to and I'll see you around :-). [12:54] you to mate :) === AndyFitz [~andy@nat-pool-brisbane.redhat.com] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === lukacu [~lukacu@cpe-212-18-59-221.cable.amis.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === miketech [~miketech@dsl-084-056-235-004.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === miketech [~miketech@dsl-084-056-235-004.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === volvoguy [~volvoguy@pcp09060059pcs.rocsth01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:27] hey folks. [02:28] did i miss Andy or hasn't he been on yet today? (i can never keep track of timezones on the other side of the planet) :) [02:30] 00:56 -!- AndyFitz [~andy@nat-pool-brisbane.redhat.com] has left [02:30] #ubuntu-artwork [] [02:30] volvoguy, gworldclock is very helpful ;) [02:30] 02:32 now :-) [02:31] :-) thanks. [02:32] Nafallo, you need to say where :) 02:29 in germany btw :) [02:32] hmm, my clock is slow... [02:32] ogra: I did.. here :-) [02:32] ah, yes, *here* :) [02:33] i just had a great talk with one of the Foresight Linux people. Apparently they're working on a SOAP based system to combine the artwork on gnome-looks.org, kde-looks.org and art.gnome.org. the results could be accessed via the web or a standalone app (like the gnome-art app). [02:33] hmm, I just tried to tune my irssi time by running ntpdate on the lappy :-P [02:33] i'm in detroit, michigan, usa. [02:35] it would be possible to make our future ubuntu art website part of the global "artwork repository". sounds pretty cool to me. [02:35] yep, sounds good :) [02:36] yay! that could hopefully kill the phpgroupware idea :-) [02:36] heh [02:36] i still have no idea wat for we'd need a groupware... [02:36] s/wat/what [02:37] same here [02:37] i'm not really sold on the groupware idea yet either. [02:38] i think for our "official" ubuntu artwork, CVS would be fine for keeping track of things. [02:38] wiki+bazaar+art.g.o software would be a good start :-) [02:38] yep [02:39] Nafallo, but you have to teach baz to all the artwork guys then :) [02:39] ogra: but not cvs? [02:39] I've never really used either, but I've heard baz rocks! :-) [02:40] we'll have wait and see. i don't think everyone (including myself) knows the full scope of what Ubuntu ultimately wants from us. [02:40] Nafallo, always give users the tools they need... [02:40] volvoguy, just artwork... the best we can get :) [02:40] so if CVS is required, we'll have CVS .... [02:41] cvs is the most _known_ solution I guess :-) [02:41] ... which doesnt mean there cant be some bazarr classes to teach the people Nafallo [02:41] ogra: kewl. start with me then :-). [02:42] ogra: yes - but for ubuntu's purposes, there's really not a huge amount of artwork we need to collaborate on - icons, 6 backgrounds per release, maybe some theme tweaks and/or variations. [02:42] Nafallo, i'm still learning myself, but i could get us the guy who wrote baz to teac us :) [02:42] volvoguy, the iconsets are not small [02:42] ogra: is bazzar some kind of versioning system? [02:43] yep [02:43] its the one we develop at canonical [02:43] and the one launchpad will use [02:44] ogra: lifeless IIRC? [02:44] ogra: no, they're not small, but they're relatively small compared to having hundreds of devs working on a piece of software. [02:44] Nafallo, lifeless is rather a manager... jblack would be good to teach us [02:45] i've been meaning to ask my Canonical contacts what/if/why/how we could be part of launchpad. [02:45] ah, oki :-) [02:45] volvoguy, i dont think mark planned a artwork area for launchpad... thats probably something to be added now [02:47] right now there isn't really a need to be on launchpad IMO. sabdfl might have something else to say about that though ;-) [02:47] for this team that is... [02:48] ogra: i agree. i don't think we were planned in any aspect until recently - that's why it's taking so long to get things done on their end for us. [02:48] so how would launchpad be classified? is it kinda like a project manager? [02:49] its "sourceforge next generation" [02:50] right now it's bug-tracker, translation area and team management. something like that :-) [02:51] it will be source management and package builder too in the future [02:51] nice. :) [02:51] and the target is community collaboration in any way... so artwork might be part of the general plan [02:52] anyway, GF pokes me... nearly 3am.... [02:52] anyway. I have to wake up early tomorrow. [02:52] time for bed... :) [02:52] i dont... [02:52] what ogra said ;-) [02:52] but still [02:53] We're going to Oslo to spend the weekend with tfheen and Simira :-) [02:53] oh sure... i finally get in here and you all leave me. ;-) just kidding. get some sleep and i'll get some food. we'll catch up later. (remember, this channel is being logged now). [02:54] Nafallo, seeing the new flat ? [02:54] volvoguy, yep... nice to meet you (finally (even if its virtual)) [02:55] ogra: naah. that's not until 4th august :-) [02:55] ah... i just saw some pics... [02:55] ogra: thanks. same here! have a good time on your trip. [02:55] ogra: oh? [02:56] Nafallo, he posted them... i dont have the links anymore... i guess he'll show it to you ... [02:56] volvoguy: yepp. will see you later :-). [02:56] ogra: hehe, indeed :-). [02:57] anyway. good night guys :-) [02:57] Nafallo: g'night! [02:57] yep...same goes for me, night [02:57] ogra: g'night. :) [02:57] :) === pailhead [~pailhead@24161235hfc53.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === volvoguy [~volvoguy@pcp09060059pcs.rocsth01.mi.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Leaving"] === pailhead [~pailhead@24161235hfc53.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === volvoguy [~volvoguy@pcp09060059pcs.rocsth01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === volvoguy [~volvoguy@pcp09060059pcs.rocsth01.mi.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Leaving"] === megabyte405 [~megabyte4@user-0cdvkq3.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === mpathy [~markus@ACB4BA95.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lukacu [~lukacu@cpe-212-18-59-221.cable.amis.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:24] hi there [10:25] hello [10:30] i set up this tool someone suggested.. not that we should use it, but the range of things that you can do there would make sense! would you have a look? ;) http://ubuntu-artwork.seework.com user: demo password: demo [10:31] ok [10:36] well ... it looks nice ... but what bothers me is the side ad-bar [10:36] could someone elaborate what for we need this ? [10:37] its all already there in the ubuntu wiki... (assuming you read the ML) [10:39] ogra: hm ... nope ... just checking it out to see if it fits our needs ... but i agree that wiki is also cool ;) [10:39] someone suggested it, i had a look on it. we dont need or want that, because its not open source - but the things they use make sense.. only for visualizing! [10:39] hmm... its a project tool, right ? [10:39] yup [10:40] again: i dont think we should use that. but it helps to visualize what we perhaps need.. :) [10:40] i think we need to have a project plan, but i do not see the need to modify it every now and then ... :) [10:40] so a single page with this plan should be enough, or am i wrong ? [10:42] it depends on how well the team is organized and how well they know what they can do in wiki and what not [10:42] okay.. but it should be well structured.. [10:42] the docteam has structured wiki pages! [10:43] yup [10:43] but i thought if we get external webspace we could do a little bit more than a wiki.. [10:44] something where not only we, but also normal ubuntu users have some use of it [10:44] like the art.gnome.org [10:44] art.ubuntu.com :) [10:44] right [10:45] but not only for us, also for ubuntu user who want to download nice wallpapers, themes, splash screens, grub and bootsplash etc. [10:46] or is searching of a tutorial how to set up a new splash screen.. [10:46] yep, and something like gnome-art to integrate directly with the desktop... [10:46] (i guess KDE finally got something like that too finally) [10:47] what do you mean exactly? i dont get it.. perhaps its too early in the morning :) [10:48] there is a tool the integrates artwork from a weblocation directly with the desktop, for example you want a new wallpaper, you have something verysimilar to the wallpaper selector, but it pulls all data directly from the online source [10:49] that is nice... [10:49] its called gnome-art ... [10:49] and i saw something like that for KDE too recently... [10:49] NICE === kafeine [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:51] but right now we need team organisation infrastructure ... [10:52] http://www.miketech.net/gnome-art/ [10:52] right [10:53] it is very nice though [10:54] downloaded it and have a look on it.. its in ruby :o) [10:56] eek, ruby ... [10:57] :) [10:57] that means we wont have it in main .... [10:57] ogra: huh? [10:57] ogra: because of some python fanatics? ;) [10:57] we have nobody who wants to remotely maintain ruby stuff... its a PITA.... [10:58] :) [10:58] why? [10:58] maintainig ruby packages is awful [10:58] specify ;) [10:58] because of the structure of the packages... [11:00] and because nobody is fond to learn ruby ... we could really needsome ruby oriented MOTUs [11:00] t maintain this stuff.... [11:00] s/t/to [11:00] I am not so good at ruby.. to be a maintainer.. [11:01] but i hope this summer it will change.. [11:02] drop by in #ubuntu-motu if you feel ready :) ruby is a unloved child in ubuntu.... someone should give it some love :) [11:09] for sure! [11:11] :) === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Starchild [~ali@217.218.84.50] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === mpathy [~markus@ACB4BA95.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [03:48] back again === efbie [~fred@47-80.244.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === ogra_ [~ogra@p5089C6DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Elerosse [~Elerosse@7-150.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Mats_ [~mats@ADijon-151-1-99-156.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [06:00] bonjour a tous :) [06:01] hello === lukacu [~lukacu@cpe-212-18-59-221.cable.amis.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === lukacu [~lukacu@cpe-212-18-59-221.cable.amis.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === megabyte405 [~megabyte4@user-0cdvkq3.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === olivier [~olivier@62.212.96.56] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [10:43] Greetings [10:44] hi [10:46] Just to tell that, few month ago, I made a 2 minute .png for the "ubuntu love days" : http://yet.another.linux-nerd.com/2005/03/07/41/ [10:47] I won't have time for ubuntu artwork in the near future but I'll try to do some stuff later. [10:48] i think that is no problem [10:49] Yeah, there's a lot of people willing to help. [10:50] yup ... btw nice ubuntu logo variation [10:52] thx [10:54] i think you can come whenever you like ... there will always be something to do ;) === bach_lap [rakahanga@62.101.48.8] has joined #ubuntu-artwork