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| zul | hey | 03:59 |
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| zul | jbailey: ping | 03:59 |
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| fabbione | morning | 06:16 |
| lamont | fabbione: so how's your current thinking on 3.3 for the kernel? | 06:17 |
| fabbione | lamont: i am more and more convince to roll back to 3.3 | 06:17 |
| fabbione | but we can't for ppc64 | 06:17 |
| lamont | hppa needs gcc-3.4 as well | 06:18 |
| fabbione | so we need 3.4 for hppa and ppc64 | 06:18 |
| lamont | (since there is no gcc-3.3 in the archive for hppa....) | 06:18 |
| fabbione | i386 can handle | 06:18 |
| fabbione | amd64 seems ok | 06:18 |
| lamont | ia64 would kind of like 3.3, at least for a test build... | 06:18 |
| fabbione | the only one that needs 3.3 seems to be ia64 right? | 06:18 |
| lamont | which I'll wind up really doing tomorrow | 06:18 |
| fabbione | ok | 06:19 |
| fabbione | does hppa boot with 3.4? | 06:19 |
| lamont | OTOH, if we assume that there will be another kernel upload for ia64, and we further assume that lamont is lazy, then if there was an excuse to upload a new kernel in the next several hours, it'd be really nice if it (a) switched ia64 to 3.3, and (b) overrode the abi change that almost certainly causes | 06:20 |
| lamont | yes | 06:20 |
| lamont | well, last I checked | 06:20 |
| lamont | 2.6.12-1-hppa64 | 06:20 |
| lamont | and the other buildd is even more new | 06:20 |
| lamont | gcc-4.0/hppa is in the dh_builddep maze!!! | 06:21 |
| lamont | doko: dh_movefiles: Compatibility levels before 3 are deprecated. | 06:21 |
| fabbione | yeah i told him already | 06:21 |
| lamont | hehe | 06:21 |
| lamont | coolness. all of my packages are at 3 or 4. | 06:22 |
| fabbione | so are mine :) | 06:23 |
| fabbione | coolness! f11 is back online | 06:27 |
| fabbione | for the first time i can pretest/build all 6 arches | 06:28 |
| fabbione | lamont: dunno if you are looking at baz anymore, but i did a huge rework of the udebs | 06:29 |
| lamont | haven't looked at baz in a bit.. | 06:29 |
| fabbione | ok | 06:30 |
| === lamont has been trying to focus on (1) ia64, and (2) getting hppa built | ||
| fabbione | i won't manage to realling the configs for breezy... tough | 06:30 |
| fabbione | that will be the first step for breezy+1 | 06:30 |
| lamont | realign, you mean? | 06:30 |
| fabbione | like CONFIG_PREEMPT enabled on some arches and not others? | 06:31 |
| lamont | right | 06:31 |
| fabbione | afaik HPPA has PCI, but doesn't build a lot of drivers... | 06:31 |
| fabbione | stuff like that | 06:31 |
| lamont | well, more pedantically, many of the PCI drivers for generic cards don't work on hppa. maybe... (really don't know) | 06:31 |
| fabbione | wee if nobody builds them we will never know and get them fixed.. | 06:32 |
| infinity | fabbione : Where are you currently enabling preempt? | 06:32 |
| infinity | fabbione : My last spin of preempt on my powerpc machine resulted in random spectacular oopses and panics. | 06:32 |
| fabbione | infinity: i386, ppc64, ia64 | 06:33 |
| fabbione | all the others are unset | 06:33 |
| infinity | Is davis running a ppc64 kernel with preempt right now? | 06:34 |
| lamont | Built successfully | 06:34 |
| lamont | Purging chroot-breezy/build/buildd/gcc-4.0-4.0.1 | 06:34 |
| lamont | !!!!!! | 06:34 |
| fabbione | infinity: yes | 06:34 |
| fabbione | YAY | 06:34 |
| infinity | fabbione : Ahh, good, then that seems like an adequate test for ppc64. :) | 06:34 |
| fabbione | infinity: PPC + PREEMEPT needs SMP | 06:35 |
| fabbione | that | 06:35 |
| fabbione | that's what i was told | 06:35 |
| infinity | fabbione : I'll just warn you now that it seems hideously broken on ppc32 and if you enable it, you'll be in for a world of hurt. | 06:35 |
| fabbione | it's not.. | 06:35 |
| infinity | Hrm. Or, it needs SMP. I guess that makes sens, since preempt just reuses SMP spinlocks. | 06:35 |
| fabbione | i wonder why it's not enabled on amd64 at all | 06:35 |
| infinity | (THough, I thought there had been work years ago to abstract that, so they were independant of each other) | 06:35 |
| fabbione | or we can just disable it everywhere | 06:36 |
| fabbione | that would make me even more happy | 06:36 |
| infinity | Me too, TBH. | 06:36 |
| fabbione | given that GFS isn't exactly PREEMPT safe | 06:36 |
| infinity | PREEMPT is still one of those "play with it yourself if you're smart enough to compile your own kernel and break your own machine" things, IMO. | 06:37 |
| infinity | Also, bed for real now. | 06:38 |
| fabbione | config PREEMPT | 06:39 |
| fabbione | Say Y here if you are building a kernel for a desktop, embedded | 06:39 |
| fabbione | or real-time system. Say N if you are unsure. | 06:39 |
| fabbione | well we are distributing a server, aren't we? | 06:39 |
| fabbione | or did i misundertood something about Ubuntu? ;) | 06:40 |
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| fabbione | night lamont | 06:43 |
| fabbione | PREEMPT is gone | 06:47 |
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| fabbione | hey JaneW | 08:32 |
| JaneW | hi | 08:34 |
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| fabbione | JaneW: i need a name :) | 09:26 |
| fabbione | something really sexy or totally weird.. | 09:26 |
| fabbione | no nuts this time :) | 09:26 |
| JaneW | fabbione: no problemo | 09:29 |
| JaneW | WhoopingWholewheat | 09:30 |
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| fabbione | oky :) | 09:31 |
| fabbione | thanks | 09:31 |
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| zul | hey | 01:34 |
| fabbione | hey zul | 01:34 |
| zul | hey fabbione | 01:35 |
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| fabbione | ok... 4.4 on the way | 01:58 |
| zul | jbailey: you around? | 02:28 |
| fabbione | zul: hey | 02:31 |
| fabbione | he is at OLS | 02:31 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:fabbione] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | There are no kernel bugs.. only broken hardware | http://people.u.c/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ playground: kernel-debian--preX,5--2.6.12 | ||
| zul | yeah i wanted to go hang out after work | 02:35 |
| fabbione | zul: it's easier if you hook up on ofct #parisc | 02:36 |
| fabbione | there are the people that share the room with him there | 02:36 |
| zul | okie dokie | 02:39 |
| zul | fabbione: no more extra drivers or is it still ok? | 02:40 |
| fabbione | zul: it depends | 02:40 |
| fabbione | i am being a bit close on accepting stuff | 02:40 |
| zul | i was thinking speakup | 02:40 |
| fabbione | but it really depends what it is | 02:40 |
| fabbione | hmmmm HMMMMM | 02:40 |
| fabbione | zul: i would be more happy go get the acerhk back | 02:41 |
| zul | since im going back to development this weekend for sure | 02:41 |
| fabbione | you removed it because it was apparently unmaintained | 02:41 |
| fabbione | but it is | 02:41 |
| zul | i think there might be a more of demand for speakup though | 02:41 |
| zul | i read it on the website it wasnt maybe i misread it | 02:41 |
| fabbione | yeah the website is crpa | 02:41 |
| fabbione | cra | 02:41 |
| fabbione | CRAP | 02:41 |
| zul | besides i think its on breezy's roadmap | 02:51 |
| fabbione | nobody bothered to ask us | 02:54 |
| zul | yeah...uh...whatshisname | 02:55 |
| zul | damn it | 02:56 |
| zul | heh...i can check the logs and prove it ;) | 02:59 |
| fabbione | zul, chmj: a very simple task for all of you | 03:19 |
| fabbione | closing the bugs in bugzilla with the latest upload? | 03:20 |
| chmj | erm, just closing ? | 03:23 |
| fabbione | chmj: see the kernel changelog... | 03:23 |
| fabbione | for 4.4 | 03:23 |
| fabbione | there are a bunch of bug closers | 03:23 |
| fabbione | pick these bugs and bugzilla -> resolved+fixed with a note that has been in done in kernel 2.6.12-4.4 | 03:23 |
| fabbione | nothing too fancy... | 03:24 |
| fabbione | i am just too tired to fight with bugzilla | 03:24 |
| zul | slacker..:) | 03:28 |
| lamont | fabbione: linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-4.4 is near the top of the queue for hppa. I guess that's a good thing... :_) | 04:06 |
| lamont | fabbione: can't just do edit many? | 04:06 |
| lamont | or you're _that_ tired?? | 04:07 |
| jbailey | zul: Am around now. | 04:08 |
| zul | im off around 4 today and am getting downtown around 5:30ish what are you up to around that time | 04:22 |
| fabbione | re | 04:36 |
| mjg59 | Wurgh. | 05:17 |
| === mjg59 has correctly diagnosed the AGP resume failure, hurrah | ||
| mjg59 | fabbione: I'll need to send you a patch for that before too long | 05:18 |
| fabbione | mjg59: ok... | 05:18 |
| fabbione | too bad i just uploaded a kernel today | 05:19 |
| mjg59 | Yeah, it's not urgent | 05:19 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Ooo. New kernel?/ Perhaps it will unbreak my acpi... | 05:42 |
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| zul | ah sweet...im being sent hardware | 06:09 |
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