[03:59] <zul> hey
[03:59] <zul> jbailey: ping
[06:16] <fabbione> morning
[06:17] <lamont> fabbione: so how's your current thinking on 3.3 for the kernel?
[06:17] <fabbione> lamont: i am more and more convince to roll back to 3.3
[06:17] <fabbione> but we can't for ppc64
[06:18] <lamont> hppa needs gcc-3.4 as well
[06:18] <fabbione> so we need 3.4 for hppa and ppc64
[06:18] <lamont> (since there is no gcc-3.3 in the archive for hppa....)
[06:18] <fabbione> i386 can handle
[06:18] <fabbione> amd64 seems ok
[06:18] <lamont> ia64 would kind of like 3.3, at least for a test build...
[06:18] <fabbione> the only one that needs 3.3 seems to be ia64 right?
[06:18] <lamont> which I'll wind up really doing tomorrow
[06:19] <fabbione> ok
[06:19] <fabbione> does hppa boot with 3.4?
[06:20] <lamont> OTOH, if we assume that there will be another kernel upload for ia64, and we further assume that lamont is lazy, then if there was an excuse to upload a new kernel in the next several hours, it'd be really nice if it (a) switched ia64 to 3.3, and (b) overrode the abi change that almost certainly causes
[06:20] <lamont> yes
[06:20] <lamont> well, last I checked
[06:20] <lamont> 2.6.12-1-hppa64 
[06:20] <lamont> and the other buildd is even more new
[06:21] <lamont> gcc-4.0/hppa is in the dh_builddep maze!!!
[06:21] <lamont> doko: dh_movefiles: Compatibility levels before 3 are deprecated.
[06:21] <fabbione> yeah i told him already
[06:21] <lamont> hehe
[06:22] <lamont> coolness.  all of my packages are at 3 or 4.
[06:23] <fabbione> so are mine :)
[06:27] <fabbione> coolness! f11 is back online
[06:28] <fabbione> for the first time i can pretest/build all 6 arches
[06:29] <fabbione> lamont: dunno if you are looking at baz anymore, but i did a huge rework of the udebs
[06:29] <lamont> haven't looked at baz in a bit..
[06:30] <fabbione> ok
[06:30] <fabbione> i won't manage to realling the configs for breezy... tough
[06:30] <fabbione> that will be the first step for breezy+1
[06:30] <lamont> realign, you mean?
[06:31] <fabbione> like CONFIG_PREEMPT enabled on some arches and not others?
[06:31] <lamont> right
[06:31] <fabbione> afaik HPPA has PCI, but doesn't build a lot of drivers...
[06:31] <fabbione> stuff like that
[06:31] <lamont> well, more pedantically, many of the PCI drivers for generic cards don't work on hppa.  maybe... (really don't know)
[06:32] <fabbione> wee if nobody builds them we will never know and get them fixed..
[06:32] <infinity> fabbione : Where are you currently enabling preempt?
[06:32] <infinity> fabbione : My last spin of preempt on my powerpc machine resulted in random spectacular oopses and panics.
[06:33] <fabbione> infinity: i386, ppc64, ia64
[06:33] <fabbione> all the others are unset
[06:34] <infinity> Is davis running a ppc64 kernel with preempt right now?
[06:34] <lamont> Built successfully
[06:34] <lamont> Purging chroot-breezy/build/buildd/gcc-4.0-4.0.1
[06:34] <lamont> !!!!!!
[06:34] <fabbione> infinity: yes
[06:34] <fabbione> YAY
[06:34] <infinity> fabbione : Ahh, good, then that seems like an adequate test for ppc64. :)
[06:35] <fabbione> infinity: PPC + PREEMEPT needs SMP
[06:35] <fabbione> that
[06:35] <fabbione> that's what i was told
[06:35] <infinity> fabbione : I'll just warn you now that it seems hideously broken on ppc32 and if you enable it, you'll be in for a world of hurt.
[06:35] <fabbione> it's not..
[06:35] <infinity> Hrm.  Or, it needs SMP.  I guess that makes sens, since preempt just reuses SMP spinlocks.
[06:35] <fabbione> i wonder why it's not enabled on amd64 at all
[06:35] <infinity> (THough, I thought there had been work years ago to abstract that, so they were independant of each other)
[06:36] <fabbione> or we can just disable it everywhere
[06:36] <fabbione> that would make me even more happy
[06:36] <infinity> Me too, TBH.
[06:36] <fabbione> given that GFS isn't exactly PREEMPT safe
[06:37] <infinity> PREEMPT is still one of those "play with it yourself if you're smart enough to compile your own kernel and break your own machine" things, IMO.
[06:38] <infinity> Also, bed for real now.
[06:39] <fabbione> config PREEMPT
[06:39] <fabbione>           Say Y here if you are building a kernel for a desktop, embedded
[06:39] <fabbione>           or real-time system.  Say N if you are unsure.
[06:39] <fabbione> well we are distributing a server, aren't we?
[06:40] <fabbione> or did i misundertood something about Ubuntu? ;)
[06:43] <fabbione> night lamont
[06:47] <fabbione> PREEMPT is gone
[08:32] <fabbione> hey JaneW
[08:34] <JaneW> hi
[09:26] <fabbione> JaneW: i need a name :)
[09:26] <fabbione> something really sexy or totally weird..
[09:26] <fabbione> no nuts this time :)
[09:29] <JaneW> fabbione: no problemo
[09:30] <JaneW> Whooping	Wholewheat
[09:31] <fabbione> oky :)
[09:31] <fabbione> thanks
[01:34] <zul> hey
[01:34] <fabbione> hey zul
[01:35] <zul> hey fabbione 
[01:58] <fabbione> ok... 4.4 on the way
[02:28] <zul> jbailey: you around?
[02:31] <fabbione> zul: hey
[02:31] <fabbione> he is at OLS
[02:35] <zul> yeah i wanted to go hang out after work
[02:36] <fabbione> zul: it's easier if you hook up on ofct #parisc
[02:36] <fabbione> there are the people that share the room with him there
[02:39] <zul> okie dokie
[02:40] <zul> fabbione: no more extra drivers or is it still ok?
[02:40] <fabbione> zul: it depends
[02:40] <fabbione> i am being a bit close on accepting stuff
[02:40] <zul> i was thinking speakup
[02:40] <fabbione> but it really depends what it is
[02:40] <fabbione> hmmmm HMMMMM
[02:41] <fabbione> zul: i would be more happy go get the acerhk back
[02:41] <zul> since im going back to development this weekend for sure
[02:41] <fabbione> you removed it because it was apparently unmaintained
[02:41] <fabbione> but it is
[02:41] <zul> i think there might be a more of demand for speakup though
[02:41] <zul> i read it on the website it wasnt maybe i misread it
[02:41] <fabbione> yeah the website is crpa
[02:41] <fabbione> cra
[02:41] <fabbione> CRAP
[02:51] <zul> besides i think its on breezy's roadmap
[02:54] <fabbione> nobody bothered to ask us
[02:55] <zul> yeah...uh...whatshisname
[02:56] <zul> damn it
[02:59] <zul> heh...i can check the logs and prove it ;)
[03:19] <fabbione> zul, chmj: a very simple task for all of you
[03:20] <fabbione> closing the bugs in bugzilla with the latest upload?
[03:23] <chmj> erm, just closing ?
[03:23] <fabbione> chmj: see the kernel changelog...
[03:23] <fabbione> for 4.4
[03:23] <fabbione> there are a bunch of bug closers
[03:23] <fabbione> pick these bugs and bugzilla -> resolved+fixed with a note that has been in done in kernel 2.6.12-4.4
[03:24] <fabbione> nothing too fancy...
[03:24] <fabbione> i am just too tired to fight with bugzilla
[03:28] <zul> slacker..:)
[04:06] <lamont> fabbione: linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-4.4 is near the top of the queue for hppa.  I guess that's a good thing... :_)
[04:06] <lamont> fabbione: can't just do edit many?
[04:07] <lamont> or you're _that_ tired??
[04:08] <jbailey> zul: Am around now.
[04:22] <zul> im off around 4 today and am getting downtown around 5:30ish what are you up to around that time
[04:36] <fabbione> re
[05:17] <mjg59> Wurgh.
[05:18] <mjg59> fabbione: I'll need to send you a patch for that before too long
[05:18] <fabbione> mjg59: ok...
[05:19] <fabbione> too bad i just uploaded a kernel today
[05:19] <mjg59> Yeah, it's not urgent
[05:42] <jbailey> fabbione: Ooo.  New kernel?/  Perhaps it will unbreak my acpi...
[06:09] <zul> ah sweet...im being sent hardware