=== crimsun [~crimsun@rchp4.rochester.ibm.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === crimsun [~crimsun@crimsun.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:59] hey [03:59] jbailey: ping === crimsun [~crimsun@crimsun.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:16] morning [06:17] fabbione: so how's your current thinking on 3.3 for the kernel? [06:17] lamont: i am more and more convince to roll back to 3.3 [06:17] but we can't for ppc64 [06:18] hppa needs gcc-3.4 as well [06:18] so we need 3.4 for hppa and ppc64 [06:18] (since there is no gcc-3.3 in the archive for hppa....) [06:18] i386 can handle [06:18] amd64 seems ok [06:18] ia64 would kind of like 3.3, at least for a test build... [06:18] the only one that needs 3.3 seems to be ia64 right? [06:18] which I'll wind up really doing tomorrow [06:19] ok [06:19] does hppa boot with 3.4? [06:20] OTOH, if we assume that there will be another kernel upload for ia64, and we further assume that lamont is lazy, then if there was an excuse to upload a new kernel in the next several hours, it'd be really nice if it (a) switched ia64 to 3.3, and (b) overrode the abi change that almost certainly causes [06:20] yes [06:20] well, last I checked [06:20] 2.6.12-1-hppa64 [06:20] and the other buildd is even more new [06:21] gcc-4.0/hppa is in the dh_builddep maze!!! [06:21] doko: dh_movefiles: Compatibility levels before 3 are deprecated. [06:21] yeah i told him already [06:21] hehe [06:22] coolness. all of my packages are at 3 or 4. [06:23] so are mine :) [06:27] coolness! f11 is back online [06:28] for the first time i can pretest/build all 6 arches [06:29] lamont: dunno if you are looking at baz anymore, but i did a huge rework of the udebs [06:29] haven't looked at baz in a bit.. [06:30] ok === lamont has been trying to focus on (1) ia64, and (2) getting hppa built [06:30] i won't manage to realling the configs for breezy... tough [06:30] that will be the first step for breezy+1 [06:30] realign, you mean? [06:31] like CONFIG_PREEMPT enabled on some arches and not others? [06:31] right [06:31] afaik HPPA has PCI, but doesn't build a lot of drivers... [06:31] stuff like that [06:31] well, more pedantically, many of the PCI drivers for generic cards don't work on hppa. maybe... (really don't know) [06:32] wee if nobody builds them we will never know and get them fixed.. [06:32] fabbione : Where are you currently enabling preempt? [06:32] fabbione : My last spin of preempt on my powerpc machine resulted in random spectacular oopses and panics. [06:33] infinity: i386, ppc64, ia64 [06:33] all the others are unset [06:34] Is davis running a ppc64 kernel with preempt right now? [06:34] Built successfully [06:34] Purging chroot-breezy/build/buildd/gcc-4.0-4.0.1 [06:34] !!!!!! [06:34] infinity: yes [06:34] YAY [06:34] fabbione : Ahh, good, then that seems like an adequate test for ppc64. :) [06:35] infinity: PPC + PREEMEPT needs SMP [06:35] that [06:35] that's what i was told [06:35] fabbione : I'll just warn you now that it seems hideously broken on ppc32 and if you enable it, you'll be in for a world of hurt. [06:35] it's not.. [06:35] Hrm. Or, it needs SMP. I guess that makes sens, since preempt just reuses SMP spinlocks. [06:35] i wonder why it's not enabled on amd64 at all [06:35] (THough, I thought there had been work years ago to abstract that, so they were independant of each other) [06:36] or we can just disable it everywhere [06:36] that would make me even more happy [06:36] Me too, TBH. [06:36] given that GFS isn't exactly PREEMPT safe [06:37] PREEMPT is still one of those "play with it yourself if you're smart enough to compile your own kernel and break your own machine" things, IMO. [06:38] Also, bed for real now. [06:39] config PREEMPT [06:39] Say Y here if you are building a kernel for a desktop, embedded [06:39] or real-time system. Say N if you are unsure. [06:39] well we are distributing a server, aren't we? [06:40] or did i misundertood something about Ubuntu? ;) === lamont sleeps [06:43] night lamont [06:47] PREEMPT is gone === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-165-34.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:32] hey JaneW [08:34] hi === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-165-34.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:26] JaneW: i need a name :) [09:26] something really sexy or totally weird.. [09:26] no nuts this time :) [09:29] fabbione: no problemo [09:30] Whooping Wholewheat === chmj [~chmj@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:31] oky :) [09:31] thanks === chmj [~chmj@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-077-118.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === chmj [~chmj@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-165-34.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-165-34.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Leaving"] === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:34] hey [01:34] hey zul [01:35] hey fabbione === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-079-140.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:58] ok... 4.4 on the way [02:28] jbailey: you around? [02:31] zul: hey [02:31] he is at OLS === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:fabbione] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | There are no kernel bugs.. only broken hardware | http://people.u.c/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ playground: kernel-debian--preX,5--2.6.12 [02:35] yeah i wanted to go hang out after work [02:36] zul: it's easier if you hook up on ofct #parisc [02:36] there are the people that share the room with him there [02:39] okie dokie [02:40] fabbione: no more extra drivers or is it still ok? [02:40] zul: it depends [02:40] i am being a bit close on accepting stuff [02:40] i was thinking speakup [02:40] but it really depends what it is [02:40] hmmmm HMMMMM [02:41] zul: i would be more happy go get the acerhk back [02:41] since im going back to development this weekend for sure [02:41] you removed it because it was apparently unmaintained [02:41] but it is [02:41] i think there might be a more of demand for speakup though [02:41] i read it on the website it wasnt maybe i misread it [02:41] yeah the website is crpa [02:41] cra [02:41] CRAP [02:51] besides i think its on breezy's roadmap [02:54] nobody bothered to ask us [02:55] yeah...uh...whatshisname [02:56] damn it [02:59] heh...i can check the logs and prove it ;) [03:19] zul, chmj: a very simple task for all of you [03:20] closing the bugs in bugzilla with the latest upload? [03:23] erm, just closing ? [03:23] chmj: see the kernel changelog... [03:23] for 4.4 [03:23] there are a bunch of bug closers [03:23] pick these bugs and bugzilla -> resolved+fixed with a note that has been in done in kernel 2.6.12-4.4 [03:24] nothing too fancy... [03:24] i am just too tired to fight with bugzilla [03:28] slacker..:) [04:06] fabbione: linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-4.4 is near the top of the queue for hppa. I guess that's a good thing... :_) [04:06] fabbione: can't just do edit many? [04:07] or you're _that_ tired?? [04:08] zul: Am around now. [04:22] im off around 4 today and am getting downtown around 5:30ish what are you up to around that time [04:36] re [05:17] Wurgh. === mjg59 has correctly diagnosed the AGP resume failure, hurrah [05:18] fabbione: I'll need to send you a patch for that before too long [05:18] mjg59: ok... [05:19] too bad i just uploaded a kernel today [05:19] Yeah, it's not urgent [05:42] fabbione: Ooo. New kernel?/ Perhaps it will unbreak my acpi... === jbailey hides. === fabbione hits jbailey with an apm cluebat [06:09] ah sweet...im being sent hardware === lamont [~lamont@15.238.5.154] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === swarm [~swarm@host128-151.pool80181.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === crimsun_ [~crimsun@rchp4.rochester.ibm.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel