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robotgeeksteven_, /etc/init.d/gdm stop , update-rc.d remove gdm12:00
Neonlightningi just got mine aswell12:00
Night_Lordgo to edit>profiles12:00
DaveyI was gonna give them away but now I'm not so sure :D12:00
nickrudsteven_, there's the 'proper' way, and the shortcut. the shortcut is to rename /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm to K13gdm, and the proper way is to use invoke-rc.d12:00
Night_Lordselect default, then click edit12:00
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weiersMIK3MAN - do you ahve to configure or install?12:00
Neonlightningthats why i got 25 of them12:00
DaveyI only got 6, 3 PPC and 3 x86 :(12:00
Night_Lordthen go to effects, and set the transparency12:00
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Neonlightninghey davey do you know how to add entries to /mnt/ in the liveboots12:01
MIK3MANI just installed the latest java and azureus and I get this message < OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE  [/usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java = Error] 12:01
MIK3MAN>12:01
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MrGardenHoseManahhh thank you!12:01
Night_LordHope that  MrGardenHoseMan12:01
DaveyNeonlightning: not a clue12:01
stodgeAnyone else getting lots of lockups with Firefox 1.02?12:01
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stodgeAnd I mean *lots*12:01
MIK3MANweiers: I installed 1.5 and it said successful12:01
NeonlightningDavey, damn i'm trying to use this livecd to try and move around my files from an old mandrake install12:01
Night_Lordi installed kde, but wanna get rid of it, do i have to uninstall each component seperately with apt-get?12:01
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Night_Lordgonna try putting key repeats back on12:02
The_Voxstodge: I moved to using a firefox from mozilla's site instead of the packaged one...it's pretty damn broken.12:02
stodgeIt is? damn12:02
weiersSorry MIK3MAN, I had a succesful install of Java earlier in the day, so I could have told you how to isntall, but I am not able to troubleshoot what you ask about. Sorry. Still learning as well.12:02
stodgeThe same is true for Epiphany, which may not be a real surprise12:02
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Night_LordDDDDDAMMMMMMMMNNNIIIITTTTT!!!!!!12:02
Night_Lordddddddiddddnnnnn''''t     wwwwoorrrrrrkkkkk12:03
Neonlightninglol12:03
Rugmonstersteven_: I'm going to try just make gdm and xdm in /etc/init.d none executable12:03
Night_Lordttttthhhhhhiiiss       aaaaaiiiiiiin''''''''t    ffffffunnnnnnnnnnnnnny yyyooooouuuuuu     kkkkkknnnnoooooow12:03
Neonlightningdo it seems12:03
Night_Lorddeeeeesssssrrrrttttttt??//???????     aaaaaannnyyy      iddddeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaas?//////12:03
Neonlightningok why not just keep key repeat off12:03
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MIK3MANweiers: no problem, anyone else help?? azuerus dont like my java and I got it off the azuerus site, and I followed their directions... anyone???12:04
Night_Lordbbbbbbbbbuuuuuuuuttttttt       iiiiitttsssss     ccccoooooonnnnvvvvviiiiinnnnnnnnniiiiiieeeennntttt12:04
Neonlightninghow often do you need it12:04
seth_kMIK3MAN, the only Java that's going to work is from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java12:04
Night_Lordggggggggeeeeeeennnneeeeeeerrrrrraaaaalllllllllllyyy12:04
MrGardenHoseManhmm it's only transparent to the desktop, not the browser like i hoped it to be :(12:04
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Night_Lordhhhhhhmmmmmmmm.........      ttthhhheeeeeennnnnnn iuuuunnnnnnnnnoooooooo, sssssssssssooorrrrrryyyyyyyyy      ggggaaaaaarrrrrrrdddeeeeeeennnnnnhhhhhhhoooseeee12:04
jurgonh_What to do if i get this error message?: Package gstreamer-0.8 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gstreamer-0.8.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gstreamer-0.8' found configure: error: you need gstreamer development packages installed12:04
stodgeGod every third site I visit it hangs12:05
MIK3MANI also tried synaptic and I cant install that way12:05
othernoobNight_Lord: you're not funny :p12:05
meuserj|workjurgonh_, install libgstreamer8.0-dev12:05
Night_LordI'm not trying to be12:05
Fideliorobotgeek : you there?12:05
Night_Lordits a raly problem12:05
jurgonh_Thx..12:05
Daveywho prints the CDs? I'd love to get some done up for my own stuff :D12:05
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NightLordanyway, I don't find it amusing12:06
NightLordit always happens12:06
Cooner750ok. trying to resize my partition again12:06
Cooner750preying for no error..12:06
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Cooner750of course. Right when I say it... "Error". Ugh12:06
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NightLordhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25574.html for unbelievers12:07
Hunchbackevening, i have a question: how can i boot into an already installed ubuntu from the install cd? (yeah, windows overwrote the MBR and the grub diskette i created doesn't seem to work)12:07
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NightLordmake a live cd12:07
kafeineDavey, a large factory in the netherlands, if i remember correctly12:07
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Cooner750"Error resizing/moving /dev/sda" or something like that12:07
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Hunchbackcan't i use the install cd? other distro's have that ...12:08
NightLordthen... i can't remembet exactly.. it involves using Chroot to mount the partition and install grub again12:08
NightLordYou could reinstall and keep the partition data12:08
NightLordbut then all custom settings go away12:08
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Hunchbackhmm12:08
Hunchbackthat's not good12:08
Hunchbackbah12:08
sputn1khow to uninstall firefox??12:08
Cooner750I wish I could get my HD partitioned.... let me try QTParted12:09
Hunchbacki just need to log into it so i can create a boot disk... :/12:09
kolcvktry to remove it from synaptic12:09
kafeineCooner750, gparted is gtk+12:09
sputn1kfrom console i can't?12:09
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steven_why do i get this when running update-rc.d gdm remove:   update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/gdm exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)12:09
Hunchbackso there's no way to boot from the install cd?12:09
kafeinesputn1k, sudo apt-get remove firefox12:10
NightLordnot that i know of12:10
NightLordsorry12:10
steven_should i use the f flag12:10
stianjwhat package in breezy has /usr/bin/xkbcomp these days?12:10
stodgeGoddamit, going to have to revert to Fedora if this keeps up12:10
NightLordalso: does anyone know, why, i jut rebooted ubuntu for the first time, and now whenever i select a menu, I have to hold the mouse button down, before i rebooted i just had to click12:10
nickrudHunchback, maybe trying #4 in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47240 will work, on the face it looks ok.12:10
Hunchbacknickrud: thanks, i will check it out now12:11
NightLordthats for kubuntu12:11
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robertjthere does need to be an apt-whereis filename12:11
NightLordyeah, hunchback12:12
NightLordthats what i did12:12
CaptainMorganI having trouble getting IBM II ABG working on a Thinkpad, can someone point me in the right direction?12:12
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HunchbackNightLord: it shouldn't be much different from normal ubuntu, right?12:13
Hunchbacki mean kubutnu12:13
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Cooner750is it just me, or does QTParted seem a little incomplete!?12:13
stianjwhat package in breezy has /usr/bin/xkbcomp these days?12:13
CaptainMorganI ran Qt earlier today, seemed fine..12:13
Cooner750I mean the menus, like"&Resize"12:14
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derral_8So breezy hasn't been officially release yet ?12:15
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kbrooksderral_8: no12:15
Rugmonsterderral_8: nope...my system is broke hard because of it12:15
kbrooks3 more months or so12:15
Rugmonsterderral_8: X won't start because of amissing font utility12:15
derral_8I'll stick with hoary12:16
Cooner750UGH! %^%$& error12:16
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Cooner750How hard is it to resize a partition!?12:16
HunchbackCooner750: kinda hard :p12:16
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Cooner750yea, I wish I had Partition Magic for windows. Now THAT would be nice.12:17
kbrooksCooner750: gparted12:17
rgouldls12:17
rgouldbah12:17
Cooner750I get a error with that too12:17
Hunchbackpartition magic 8 is very nice12:17
Cooner750Hunchback: Yes I know, but it's shareware12:17
Hunchback*shrug*12:17
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Hunchbackuse it, uninstall it12:18
Hunchbackyou don't resize your partitions dayly :)12:18
Cooner750I know, the trial version does not allow applying actions12:18
Cooner750so... it's kind of useless12:18
CaptainMorganPartition magic is nice, but qt will do the job12:18
Hunchbackk, gonna try that installation stuff etc12:18
Hunchbackoh, yeah12:18
steven_can i stop apt-get install when it is downloadin the a package and restart the downloading of the same package later12:18
Hunchbackwell, get a crack then12:18
kolcvkCooner750, use cracks ...12:18
Hunchbacksteven_: yes12:18
kolcvk(DC++)12:18
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kbrooksNO12:19
Hunchbackit even resumes :)12:19
steven_Hunchback, ok12:19
kbrooksomfg12:19
nickrudsteven_, yes, apt does pretty well at resuming12:19
kbrooksCooner750:12:19
kbrooksCooner750:12:19
kbrooksCooner750: gparted12:19
Cooner750gparted does not work for me eiter12:19
Cooner750either12:19
kbrooksCooner750: use it12:19
steven_so shouold i only press crt+c12:19
kbrooksCooner750: why?12:19
Hunchbacksteven_: yea12:19
Cooner750I get a $%^^&$%^ $% error just like QTParted12:19
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steven_where can i find a good information about sed12:20
Cooner750I get stupid errors for no reason12:20
kolcvkCooner750, download the Partition Magic from DC++12:21
Cooner750?12:21
kolcvk(Under Win)12:21
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sputn1khow can i fix it: dpkg: error processing mozilla-firefox (--install):12:21
sputn1k dependency problems - leaving unconfigured12:21
sputn1kErrors were encountered while processing:12:21
sputn1k mozilla-firefox12:21
Ubuntuwhats up everyone12:21
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Cooner750ok. better get back on topic. (it it a Ubuntu channel after all.)12:21
kolcvk:))12:22
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Cooner750booting windows12:22
steven_can i create another lookup like 127.0.0.212:22
nerdgirlsputnlk: actually, had a similar question.  the package manager update keeps wanting me to update to firefox 1.0.2.  Thing is, I already have FF1.0.512:22
macihm somehow my spacebar doesnt work in x anymore .. it worked yesterday .. and on my other VCs in bash it still works12:22
kolcvksteven_  what kind of lookup ?12:22
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kolcvkDNS ?12:23
weitaoyou must edit the ff prefences12:23
weitaojust try: about:blank12:23
weitaoget general...12:23
binawhat package must I install to get PHP4 to interface with MySQL?12:23
steven_like i just want to play with ssh and networking programs12:23
macianyone ever had that problem too ?12:23
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nerdgirlweitao: you talking to me?12:24
weitaoyes12:24
nerdgirlI don't think it's an issue with firefox.  It's that Ubuntu doesn't realize that I have a more recent version.12:24
weitaoi made a mistake12:24
nalioth!firefox12:25
weitaoyou should try about:config12:25
nerdgirlFor that matter, why is Ubuntu trying to update people to 1.0.2 now?  1.0.5 has been out for at least a month.12:25
naliothdammit12:25
gigacloncan anyone get the stream here (http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=2&prgDate=07-20-2005&view=storyview) to play in ubuntu?12:25
concept10nalioth, it the bot down today?12:26
naliothwhats the bots trigger for firefox?12:26
weitaogeneral.useragent.vendorSub12:26
naliothno,  I am down12:26
weitaochange it into 1.512:26
wdhnerdgirl, ubuntu patches an already released version with security patches only..12:26
seth_k!firefox12:26
seth_kisn't it?12:26
seth_knope12:26
naliothi'm suffering from CRS12:26
wdhnerdgirl, so no new versions of any software after release..12:26
naliothor somebody removed the factoid12:26
concept10CRS?12:26
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concept10I tried to put something in the bot it wouldnt take12:27
Rugmonsterwdh: I hate to say it, but every release of firefox since 1.0.2 has addressed security issues12:27
seth_kubotu forget firefox12:27
ubotui forgot firefox, seth_k12:27
naliothconcept10: can't remember shtuff12:27
nerdgirlwdh: thanks.  however, I still need to convince ubuntu that I don't need anything for 1.0.212:27
naliothseth_k: no no12:27
naliothseth_k: it works12:27
naliothseth_k: make him remember12:27
wdhRugmonster, true.. but ubuntu just takes those security patches and includes them in the 1.0.2 version..12:27
seth_kubotu firefox is not the newest version available as seen on mozilla.org. However, all the security fixes are "backported" into Ubuntu's version. So although your Firefox is up-to-date, its version number is lower than the current release. To install themes or extensions, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub to "1.0.6"12:27
ubotuseth_k: okay12:27
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zerboxxCan anyone tell me what to do to fix this problem: "http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/709"12:27
Rugmonsterwdh: ah12:27
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mbirkiswill maya unlimited 6.5 work in ubuntu??12:28
nerdgirlseth_k: thanks... That'll at least let me update in the future.12:28
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wdhRugmonster, actually firefox is just one of a kind.. its a protection of the stability of ubuntu actually.. usually new software comes with new features.. and therefore new bugs..12:28
nerdgirlseth_k: that is, update my extensions, etc.12:28
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rogercc12:29
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binaanyone know what package I need to install to connect to a mySQL database through PHP?  I cant find php-mysql anywhere and I have the client and server both installed12:30
gigacloncan anyone get the stream here (http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=2&prgDate=07-20-2005&view=storyview) to play in ubuntu?12:31
gigacloni can't12:31
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Rugmonsterbina: connect to it via a script or just administer it through a php client like phpmyadmin?12:32
hondjegigaclon: yes12:32
robotgeekdamn no script!!! crashed my browser, again!12:32
xquizitHi, im having troubles with xorg in breezy. I have looked in the forums and it still doesnt want to work.12:32
Rugmonsterrobotgeek: I wish I had a browser other than links right now12:32
nerdgirlgigaclon: do you have a linux version of Real?12:32
binaRugmonster: Well, atm Im just trying to connect through phpMyAdmin12:32
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binait says It cant load the extensions12:32
occyI've got an external raid array that has dual power sources.  (two power cables)  I was wondering if I could have it hooked up to my desktop [it's an old 120G raid array]  and power it on and off when I want to transfer files.  I don't want to have to pay the electricity to have it constantly on.12:33
robotgeekRugmonster, lynx is good :)12:33
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Rugmonsterbina: look for php3-mysql or php4-mysql, depending on what version of php you are running12:33
concept10has anyone installed nvu 1.0 yet?12:34
Rugmonsterbina: those are the package names12:34
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gigaclonI have the linux version of real12:34
Rugmonsterrobotgeek: links is better (supports frames and tables)12:34
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gigaclonhondje, nerdgirl it freeze when i try to play it12:34
binaRugmonster: apt-cache search php4-mysql doesnt show any results12:34
xquizitmy xorg config looks fine. it's just when I start gdm my screen will flicker about 3 times then go back to the console without any errors. I also tried "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:34
Rugmonsterbina: I have a couple extra repositories...just a second12:35
roger#ububu.no12:35
hondjegigaclon: yeah, it just did that to me too12:35
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hondjenot real, but the mozilla mplayer plugin12:35
othernoobbina: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38  edit your /etc/apt/sources.list with this12:35
Rugmonsterbina: yeah, I'm using the backports repositories. If they aren't in the default, try backports12:36
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kbrooksothernoob:12:36
othernoobbina: then run it again, should give you the result then12:36
nerdgirlgigaclon: I'm downloading RealPlayer 10, and I'll try it out.  www.real.com takes you straight to a linux version (.bin or .rpm).12:36
kbrooksRugmonster:12:36
othernoobkbrooks:12:36
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Rugmonsterkbrooks:12:36
binaothernoob, Rugmonster: nice one Ill add them to my repos.  Thanks12:36
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kbrooksbackports shouldnt be used daily12:36
kbrooksbina: ^^^^^12:36
Webwizis there any way of making ubuntu install all the dependencies for gaim to compile it12:36
Rugmonsterwhy?12:36
othernoobkbrooks: why not?12:36
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naliothWebwiz: yes, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim"12:37
kbrooksWebwiz: yes. apt-get build-dep gaim12:37
Heart_hm, eclipse is not in any repository?!12:37
Webwizthank you everybody12:37
Webwizyou are all wonderfull people12:37
kbrooksnalioth: you're the know it all on backports12:37
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Rugmonsterkbrooks: why should backports (or a backports mirror) be used "daily"?12:37
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kbrooksRugmonster: shouldnt*12:37
epitronwhat's you's-guys' favorite email program which has bayesian spam filtering?12:38
Rugmonsters/should/shouldn't/...jesus12:38
gigaclongmail12:38
gigaclonor thunderbird12:38
epitrongmail is pretty sweet :)12:38
binashould I enable the Universe repos while im here?12:38
naliothbina: enable uni and multi, you'll have more fun12:38
epitrongigaclon: see, thunderbird was weird though. it only had binary scores12:38
kbrooksRugmonster: because you will break your system (sooner or) later12:38
Rugmonsterbina: oh yeah, I use the universe and multiverse12:38
othernoobkbrooks: why12:38
binanalioth: sweet :)12:39
epitrongigaclon: that kinda sucks. you want 3 categories: for-sure-spam, for-sure-not-spam, and maybe-spam-or-not-spam12:39
lamp_n812:39
kbrooksothernoob: why what?12:39
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Rugmonsterkbrooks: it doesn't matter. My system is already broken right now because I didn't read up on breezy before doing a dist-upgrade12:39
binacant find multiverse in here :)12:39
Rugmonsterbina: add it12:39
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Rugmonsterbina: after universe12:39
othernoobkbrooks:  Rugmonster: because you will break your system (sooner or) later  <<why12:39
kbrooksnalioth!!!12:39
epitronRugmonster: what's wrong with breezy? i was just about to upgrade myself :)12:39
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epitronRugmonster: could you gimme the url to read up on it?12:40
naliothkbrooks: what!!!???12:40
Rugmonsterepitron: go to the ubuntuforums.org and then under the dev section, there is a section for breezy. Read the sticky about "Don't upgrade for the next couple of weeks".12:40
binaRugmonster: where can I get the details on them?12:40
Rugmonsterbina: ubuntuguide.org12:41
binaRugmonster: cool thanks12:41
epitronRugmonster: awesome :D12:41
kbrooksothernoob: too many libraries rely on programs and vice versa and you wont be able to upgrade to breezy12:41
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kbrooksothernoob: with all those libraries lying around.12:42
RugmonsterAlso, the kernel that comes with breezy, 2.6.12, has a bad prism54 driver. It will error out on my wlan and then lock the entire system. no kernel panic or anything, just hard freeze12:42
naliothnow it begins12:42
NightLordcan someone help with a small problem?12:42
othernoobkbrooks: heh, apparently, one shouldn't upgrade to breezy anyway :p so that's not the best reason ;)12:42
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ChurcH_of_FoamYis epiphany any good?12:42
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binalol, othernoob, only just realised that was a paste link :) added it to my source list :)12:43
kbrooksothernoob: that was a example12:43
Rugmonsterkbrooks: I didn't have any issues with dependencies when upgrading to breezy. Just broken packages12:43
othernooblol12:43
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binaits far too late12:43
Xyc0anyone know the command to start esd with out that annoying sound test?12:43
Rugmonsterkbrooks: my main problem with X is that it is missing the utility to compile the fonts. Something to do with the restructure of x.org12:43
epitronChurcH_of_FoamY: i like opera myself :D12:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYk12:44
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concept10Has anyone seen a ubuntu .deb for Nvu 1.0?12:44
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Rugmonstermy slackware install disks need to hurry up downloading12:45
craigevilanyone know how to get the program menu in Icewm to show programs12:46
Rugmonsterdoes icewm support .desktop files?12:46
binahooray, all is well again.  Thanks all12:47
NightLordanyone know why after my first reboot, if i want a menu to come open, i have to hold the mouse down, before i only had to click?12:47
craigeviliit works just fine on my Debian Sid box, but on my laptop with Ubuntu the menu is empty12:47
ChurcH_of_FoamYwow that browser is great12:47
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Rugmonstercraigevil: well, ubuntu tries to hide the debian menu. That may be part of the issue12:47
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Dr_WillisGrr... installed ubuntu on my new laptop.. it booted.. then let me login.. then played some noise (wrongly) then hung. :P lol12:48
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RugmonsterI'll be back. I have to get food and cd-r's so i can fix my laptop12:48
Dr_Willisbut the fact it got that far is good. :P12:48
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dsl946damn im screwed12:49
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ColonelKernelI have disabled ipv6 support and even taken it out of my kernel, yet I still get slow DNS response time (only the first connect to that domain) in ubuntu - can anyone please help12:50
|rockinnerd|damn im screwed12:50
|rockinnerd|my fstab is screwed up12:50
ColonelKernelthis distro is so cool expect for this horrid dns problem12:50
epitronif i want to try out kde on hoary, is there a nice metapackage and/or apt source i can use?12:51
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|rockinnerd|epitron, kubuntu-desktop12:51
epitronrockin'!12:51
epitron:)12:51
|rockinnerd|sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:51
epitronit's ok, i know how to use apt-get12:51
epitron<- ninja12:51
|rockinnerd|lol12:51
epitronme using the word "metapackage" should've tipped you off ;)12:52
|rockinnerd|not only that, but when i reboot in single-user mode, i open FSTAB and get a bunch of ^@'s12:52
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dave_hi all12:52
|rockinnerd|that's what i get for using a gui text editor, i suppose...12:52
epitronouch12:52
epitrondid it coredump while you were using it or something?12:52
|rockinnerd|nope12:52
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ztonzyhey :)12:52
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epitronwow, kubuntu-desktop is like 50% python packages12:53
epitron:)12:53
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|rockinnerd|something like an error with the last line (which i added because i'm so cool) and "No newline @ end of file"12:53
robert_pectolColonelKernel:   What is listed in your /etc/resolv.conf file?  Are all entries reachable?12:53
Dr_Williswhat did you edit the fstab with?12:54
|rockinnerd|Does this look right: /dev/hda1 /windows ntfs ro,uid=chris, 0 012:54
|rockinnerd|Kwrite12:54
NuuBi just installed hoary hedgehog - i installed LAMP also and mod_perl - i allowed .cgi and .pl cgi's to run outside the cgi-bin in apache2.conf with "AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .pl" - but when i run the cgi i get a 403 Forbidden - the cgi works fine from the command line - the cgi's permissions are 755 and the user and group are root (after trying it with my default user/group) ----> where do i have my permissions wrong?12:54
Dr_Willisuid  wants a ### i think12:54
Dr_Willisnot the name of the user12:54
epitron|rockinnerd|: looks good to me12:54
ColonelKernelrobert_pectol, yes this only happens in Ubuntu, I had deb sarge on about an hour ago and it worked great12:54
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mumblesback12:54
Dr_Willisnot sure on thtat :P i always put in the users uid#12:54
ColonelKernelif I boot into windows it works fine too12:54
epitron|rockinnerd|: you have an extra comma after chris, but it probably doesn't matter12:54
|rockinnerd|it substitues it12:54
|rockinnerd|what about12:54
|rockinnerd|"No final newline at end"12:55
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epitron|rockinnerd|: what's telling you that?12:55
|rockinnerd|DSL doesn't have JFS support :-(12:55
NuuBwhat is JFS?12:55
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|rockinnerd|epitron: idk, it just shows it on bootup, it tries to go through the various scripts in rcS.d or whatever, but it fails12:56
|rockinnerd|!jfs12:56
ubotu|rockinnerd|: I don't know12:56
ztonzyanyone using both ubuntu and debian?12:56
|rockinnerd|Journaled File System12:56
robert_pectolColonelKernel:   Try this, first, remove the first entry (if there are 2) from your /etc/resolv.conf file and comment out the, "search" option.  Then do a, "dig somedomain.com" and see if you still get the delay.12:56
ColonelKernelthere is no search option12:56
robert_pectolok12:56
ColonelKerneland the dns servers work just fine on every other distro and windows xp currently.12:57
poningruhi I ran across a file with .mar12:57
Xyc0You've used EVERY OTHER DISTRO? Wow12:57
poningruwhat is that?12:57
poningrujust curious12:57
robert_pectolI see.  I was just making sure that you weren't just seeing a temporary glitch with the first DNS server in the list.  That would have explained the lag.12:57
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concept10ColonelKernel, my bodyguard from last night!12:58
epitron|rockinnerd|: hrm.. maybe you should try a python script i wrote...12:58
desrtpfah12:58
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desrti've had all distributions installed, at the same time12:58
ColonelKernelok works fine w gnetoo, fedora, debian, and windows xp12:58
darkmatterstonzy:yeh12:58
|rockinnerd|desrt, impossible.12:58
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Xyc0well, there are alot more distros then just those12:58
desrt|rockinnerd|; not so much... there was really just SLS....12:58
darkmatterHoary and Sid12:58
Xyc0Puppy Linux being the best12:58
|rockinnerd|oh..12:59
radiodogis there a amd64 ubuntu channel?12:59
Xyc0who here thinks puppy linux rox?12:59
robert_pectolColonelKernel:   You don't have some extremely large or messed up hosts file do you?12:59
radiodogs/a/an12:59
|rockinnerd|-112:59
Xyc0radiodog: yea, this one12:59
ColonelKernelrobert_pectol, no, two lines with two nameservers12:59
|rockinnerd|s/-1/no12:59
ColonelKernelrobert_pectol, it is set via chcp12:59
ColonelKerneldhcp12:59
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Xyc0static if you doing server12:59
robert_pectolUm... your /etc/hosts file?01:00
Xyc0make life easier01:00
ColonelKerneloh no01:00
ColonelKernelhosts is only one line01:00
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ColonelKernel127.0.0.101:00
robert_pectolOk, just checkin :-)01:00
ColonelKernel127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       p4ht01:00
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ColonelKernelI commented out all those ipv6 lines01:00
ColonelKernelI also tunes off the ipv6 module in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases01:01
|rockinnerd|uncomment it maybe01:01
ColonelKernelnet-pf-10 or something like htat01:01
ColonelKernelOH NO01:01
ColonelKernelmaybe I didnt uncomment it!01:01
|rockinnerd|uncommnt it.01:01
robert_pectolColonelKernel:   are you from Brasil?01:01
ColonelKernelit isnt commented01:01
|rockinnerd|oh.01:01
ColonelKernelnone of that stuff was01:02
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ColonelKernelrobert_pectol, no01:02
|rockinnerd|turn on ipv601:02
ColonelKernelwhy would I want to turn it on?01:02
Xyc0Anyone know of the project that uses files as keys to login to your computer?01:02
robert_pectolI thought maybe the p4ht was an amateur radio callsign - and I thought that looked like a Brazillian callsign...01:02
|rockinnerd|It probably is required; just try it01:02
robert_pectolMy bad!01:02
ColonelKernelit worked like crap before when it was turned on, and it still works like crap01:02
|rockinnerd|Maybe your DNS server is down01:02
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ColonelKernelnaw this is just an irc nick01:03
robert_pectolI see!01:03
ColonelKernelit isnt down for debian and windowsXP clients.01:03
|rockinnerd|dhcpcd?01:03
epitron|rockinnerd|: http://epitaph.darkillustrated.org/tounix.py01:04
ColonelKernelthis is a client, not a server box01:04
epitronthere we go. that thing fixes files with weird line endings.01:04
slask3nAnyone knows how to enable/install the driver they talk about in this quote: "The standard usb mic driver in the kernel works for the built in microphone as well." ?01:04
|rockinnerd|Colonelkernel, just run it01:04
epitronit also converts tabs to spaces, but you don't need that probably01:04
ColonelKernel|rockinnerd|, no.01:04
|rockinnerd|colonelkernel, it's _NOT_ the server program01:04
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ColonelKernel|rockinnerd|, dhcpd IS the dhcp server program.01:05
BockBilbohello01:05
|rockinnerd|d h c p c d01:05
Xyc0hello01:05
BockBilboi need someone's advice relating to vmware01:05
|rockinnerd|not d h c p d01:05
BockBilboanyone has tried it?01:05
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ColonelKernelok trying that out now, ill let you know how it works01:08
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BockBilbosee, ive got a dual boot system, in which hda1 is for windows and hda5 for ubuntu01:11
BockBilboim thinking on removing windows... is it possible to move ubuntu to the hda1 partition keeping all the config?01:11
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epitronBockBilbo: you don't need to move it... just resize it :)01:12
epitronit'll work fine as hda501:12
wdhColonelKernel, tried 'dhclient'?01:12
epitronjust nuke hda1, then resize hda5 to use up the now-freed space01:12
naliothBockBilbo: just turn hda1 into /home/newfoldername or something01:12
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epitronor you could copy everything from one partition to the other, like nalioth says :)01:13
BockBilbobut01:13
epitroni like a partition magic bootdisk though. it's less work01:13
BockBilbothe problem is that hda1 is a primary partition and hda5 a logic partition01:13
kolcvk....01:13
epitronif you're using grub, that's not a problem01:13
BockBilbowell true...01:14
epitrongrub sees all01:14
ColonelKerneli think installing dhcpcd did the trick - thank you01:14
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BockBilboyes...01:14
xhakerhow can i extract 7zip files in ubuntu?01:14
epitronit's not even the primary/logical thing that's a problem though.01:14
Wckdkl0wnhas anyone ever messed around with linux bnx bot?01:14
kolcvkBockBilbo, dont forget to convert it (hda1) to ext3fs (from ntfs)01:14
epitronthe only problem is when the partition is more than 1024 blocks into the device or something01:14
BockBilbokolcvk, my win partition is fat01:14
BockBilbo;)01:14
epitronbut, again, grub doesn't care01:14
kolcvkyes01:14
kolcvk:)01:14
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BockBilboepitron, so, what should i do?01:15
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SogniXhey - anyone here know about theming in gnome? I'm trying to figure out how to change a color and don't know where :p01:15
ColonelKernelJames Doohan, the actor best known as Star Trek's Scotty, has died at 85. His last wish, his agent announced last night, was for his ashes to be fired into space.01:15
kolcvkBockBilbo, just kill win ...01:15
BockBilboxD01:15
kolcvkand use free space01:15
kolcvk:)01:15
BockBilbobut01:15
bahblahblahbahhi01:16
kolcvkwhat but ?01:16
BockBilboi would like to have ubuntu on hda101:16
BockBilboand have it mixed with the space of the actual windows partition01:16
kolcvkwhat difference ?01:16
BockBilbothat i dont want 2 partitions, i just want one01:16
kolcvkjust resize hda5 and leave it there01:17
kolcvkBockBilbo, you can resize01:17
kolcvke.g. append01:17
kolcvk:01:17
kolcvk:)01:17
xhakeri ask again... how to extract 7zip on ubuntu?01:17
BockBilbobut, i would have to leave hda1 as an small partitinn01:17
BockBilboright?01:17
kolcvkxhaker,  try through wine01:17
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kolcvknope01:17
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kolcvk(by downloading the windows version)01:18
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xhakerkolcvk, found another way01:18
xhakerp7zip01:18
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kolcvkBockBilbo, after resizing you will have only one partition01:18
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BockBilbokolcvk, yes01:19
slask3nare there any usb mic drivers in ubuntu?01:19
kolcvkthats hda501:19
BockBilbosure??01:19
BockBilboi think it will be renamed to hda101:19
kolcvk98%01:19
kolcvkmaybe01:19
kolcvkbut all your data will remain intact01:19
BockBilbomaybe?... i think i went through this before01:19
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BockBilboi knoe that kolcvk but i might not boot01:19
kolcvk:)01:20
BockBilboand i would need to use a live cd to fix it01:20
kolcvkGRUB is in MBR01:20
kolcvk?01:20
BockBilboyes01:20
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kolcvkso don't worry ?01:20
kolcvkso don't worry *01:20
kolcvk:)01:20
bimberixhaker: apparently file-roller should be able to do it - no personal experience though01:20
BockBilbook kolcvk01:21
kolcvkif GRUB's in MBR then your system will boot normally , am i right epitron ?01:21
BockBilbokolcvk, it wont01:21
BockBilboit my partition switches to hda1 instead of hda501:21
mika5Hello.  I just applied the latest update from Ubuntu update manager, and now it looks like it broke something.  Trying to download anything in Firefox seems to wait and then nothing.  It doesn't give me the save-as dialog or any error messages.01:21
kolcvkthat doesnt matter01:21
kolcvkGRUB recognises partitions01:22
jayjay05i havw a problem installing linux amd 64 i have a mamd anthlon01:22
BockBilbocause it tries to find the initrd archives inside hda5/boot01:22
kolcvkand then check01:22
naliothBockBilbo: dont mess with your partitions01:22
jayjay05amd*01:22
kolcvkif the part. is bootable01:22
BockBilbonalioth, I need to mess with my partitions01:22
naliothBockBilbo: wipe windows, replace with ext3 and mount it under /home/bockbilbo/whatevernameyouwant01:22
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abarbacciahey all - is there any sort of program that will id3 my music tracks nicely?01:22
naliothBockBilbo: that way your grub doesnt go crazy01:22
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naliothabarbaccia: easytag01:23
kolcvkjayjay05, do you have AMD Athlon 64 ?01:23
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jayjay05it says like canot some long mode01:23
BockBilbobut, if i still want to mess with the partitions, is is possible to modify all the simlinks to hda5 to point hda1?01:23
kolcvknalioth, you are right , but he wanna 1 part.01:24
naliothBockBilbo: do what you feel you must01:24
kolcvkjayjay05, do you have AMD Athlon 64 ?01:24
cw2what might cause mplayer to say the following when trying to play a dvd: (too much to paste) http://pastebin.ca/1825001:24
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BockBilbook nalioth01:25
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BockBilbothanks01:25
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mrd`mdz: poke poke :)01:27
darkmatterhi01:27
mdzmrd`: apt-get --reinstall -o dpkg::options::=--force-confmiss <package>01:27
mdzs/^/sudo /01:27
kolcvkas i recall AMD Athlon XP was 32 bit ?01:27
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cw2kolcvk: correct01:28
kolcvk:)01:28
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cw2also known as K701:28
mrd`s/--reinstall/reinstall/ ?01:28
kolcvkjayjay05 tried to install amd64 version :))01:28
mrd`Hrm...01:28
lostyhi, does anyone know any free partition programs out there?01:28
auraxanyone here got unrealircd installed?01:28
cw2losty: fdisk?01:28
mrd`install --reinstall01:28
silverunothanks kolcvk for the help in private. ;-)01:28
crimsunlosty, parted and its frontends01:28
kolcvk:)01:29
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lostysry im new..01:29
mrd`mdz: Thanks.01:29
lostyfdisk will partition?01:29
cw2cfdisk01:29
kolcvkfdisk is a DOS programm01:29
kolcvk:)01:29
cw2yeah, cfdisk is easier to use though01:29
mdzmrd`: right, I really should fix that syntax; even I find it awkward01:29
cw2there's a linux fdisk too01:29
silverunohow do i know i my installation is up to date ?01:29
kolcvkcw2, Partition Magic will be more easier01:30
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kolcvk:)01:30
lostyim trying to insall ubuntu01:30
kolcvksilveruno, run01:30
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lostybut not getting any luck finding a partition prgram01:30
lostyil give fdisk a try01:30
kolcvkSystem Administration > Ubuntu Update Manager01:30
cw2losty: the installer can create and delete partitions01:30
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kolcvkclick Update01:30
funkyHatlosty, gparted, or kparted if you prefer KDE01:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYinstalls point2play01:30
lostycw2: are you sure? i dont want to lose my data01:30
cw2losty: if you need to resize a partition, check out parted, though you may have to go with partition magic (not free)01:31
kolcvkpardon : click Install01:31
kolcvk:)01:31
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lostyfunkyHat: im just starting linux..01:31
ptlois somebody into video production on linux? i'd need a simple video editing program (like pitivi, except that it's alpha) with just basic features - creating a movie out of clips/stills and adding the music. i'm running hoary. could you recommend some utility for doing this?01:31
funkyHatoh, you're installing... no gui... ignore me :$01:31
naliothptlo: cinepaint?01:31
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cw2losty: although, Xandros's installer will resize, you can get their OCE for free (but you'll have to download the whole cd) but it's not free-free, just beer-free01:32
Xyc0How do i get Ubuntu to recognize when I close and open my laptop screen?01:32
kolcvk:))01:32
lostycw2: ahh ok01:32
silverunokolcvk > does the updatemanager check if the system is up to date, on the net, or on the install CD i have ?01:32
kolcvkon the net offcourse01:32
kolcvk:)01:32
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Discipulussilveruno, it checks the repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list01:32
soultakerhello to all01:32
tritiumXyc0, edit /etc/default/acpi-support, uncomment the line "#ACPI_SLEEP=true"01:32
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kolcvkhi soultaker01:33
lostycw2: im really lost to partitioning my drive. i just want something simple really..01:33
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soultakeri need help how can i make doual boot in my Pc I have diferent HD for Linux and XP01:33
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soultakerhow can i configure the Grub _.01:33
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tritiumXyc0, then, the easiest thing is to reboot.  You may have to play with other options in that file to get it working right.  (I had to comment out POST_VIDEO=true)01:34
lostycw2: parted if for linux, im using win XP01:34
lostyis*01:34
tritiumXyc0, more info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryPM01:34
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soultakeri em Newby i dont know much of linux01:34
jmspeexAre there any standard package sources for apt that aren't in sources.list?01:34
jmspeexIn other words, any place I can get packages that are in debian, but that I can't find in ubuntu?01:34
soultakerthank you01:34
Xyc0tritium: Awsome, thanks all i needed was a push in the right direction01:35
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tritiumXyc0, :)01:35
darkmattersoultaker: grub is configured through menu.lst01:35
tritiumdinner...01:35
soultakerdarkmatter thank you01:35
soultakerdarkmatter what are the steeps to configurated ?01:36
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mrd`Sigh, still no working caps/ctrl swap.01:37
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ptlonalioth, hmm, cinepant seems like a image editor/retouch utility, not a movie-maker (which i'd need)01:37
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naliothptlo: i'm not sure if there is anything like imovie or such01:38
soultakergo it thank you01:39
soultakerlet me try01:39
darkmattersoultaker:man grub it will explain01:40
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ptlonalioth, hmm i've stumbled upon kino, there's ubuntu package for it, so i'll try that. thanks for the help, anyways01:41
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naliothptlo: i'm not much into linux + multimedia (i have several macintosh' for that)01:41
silverunohow can i change the language my ubuntu uses, seams eazyer if it was running in english, than Danish, when i get help here01:41
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coolkevubuntu keeps accessing my harddisk for no reason... like i tested it.. after my computer loaded i left it idle and i keep hearing every 5-10 seconds ubuntu access my hard drisk01:43
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ptlonalioth, lucky you :-) i'm not into that much myself, i'd just want to play a bit with clips recorded with my mobile phone .. nothing fancy :)01:43
coolkevthis is the reason why my hard drisk get so hot for no reason..01:43
zukalkcoolkev, that was probably updatedb running01:43
naliothptlo: ah, well linux isnt known for its video editing01:43
nickrudsilveruno, if you set up english during the install, you can log out select english under language01:43
coolkevzukalk: huh?01:44
zukalkcoolkev, man updatedb01:44
nickruds/select/then select/01:44
coolkevevey right now01:44
coolkeveven*01:44
cw2losty: use a linux live cd, you won't find anything free for windows01:44
coolkevall i'm doing is being on x-chat and i hear linux accessing hd01:44
lostycw2: ok il try it01:44
silverunonickrud >ok, ill check that out when the update is finished.01:44
coolkevand one of them is not even mounted and it's still getting hot01:45
cw2losty: make backups01:45
kolcvkproper01:45
kolcvk:)01:45
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zukalkcoolkev, run 'top' and see what's causing that01:45
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cw2coolkev: many modern hd's get hot01:45
kolcvkmine's too01:45
kolcvk:)01:45
cw2coolkev: it's just the way it is01:45
kolcvkyeap01:45
kolcvk:)01:46
TyresesId just like to say thanks for shipping me my ubuntu :D im very satisfied01:46
coolkeveven when they are not being accessed and used?01:46
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kolcvkcoolkev, yeaj01:46
mumblesbed for me01:46
kolcvkyeah *01:46
kolcvk:)01:46
mumblesnn all01:46
coolkevlike i have one resierfs drive and i never even mounted it and it's getting hot01:46
zukalkmumbles, bye01:46
cw2coolkev: yes, the spindle motor is what gets hot01:46
naliothnow proceeding with the sarge netinst01:46
naliothon the imac01:46
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pbiegajhey all01:46
coolkevzukalk i'm in top thingy and it's showing a bunch of things... what in pirticular am i looking for?01:47
pbiegajcan anyone help me out with a problem i'm having regarding ndiswrapper and a mini pci broadcom wireless card01:47
pbiegaj?01:47
kolcvkcoolkev, install radiator on HDD01:47
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pbiegajI've compiled and install the ndiswrapper modules with the proper driver file01:47
kolcvki have 2 installed01:47
kolcvk:)01:47
pbiegajit loads into the kernel01:47
zukalkcoolkev, stuff using most of the CPU01:47
cw2coolkev: when the hd is accessed, look for what starts using CPU01:47
coolkevhow much does that cost01:47
drummerneed some help with Evolution - anyone available for that?01:47
kolcvkfew $01:47
kolcvk<1001:47
pbiegajhowever I can't bring up the wlan0 device because as it goes through the process of coming up and configuring hte essid, etc01:47
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coolkevXorg and Terminal mostly01:48
pbiegajit says no such device01:48
funkyHatdrummer, just ask :)01:48
bahblahblahbahhi...i'm new to linux...01:48
kolcvkcoolkev, then just buy radiator01:48
kolcvk:)01:48
coolkevyou said around $10 Canadian?01:48
kolcvkbahblahblahbah, GOTTA QUESTIONS ?01:48
pbiegajso yeah it sucks :-(01:48
kolcvksorry for caps01:48
pbiegajtail /var/log/syslog01:48
cw2coolkev: might also run "lsof" while the hd light is on and run it again when it stops and see whats different01:48
pbiegajoops01:48
bahblahblahbahsome01:49
zukalkhey, is anyone here into forms? the guys at #html are apparently all dead01:49
bahblahblahbahI'm still trying to find stuff for my hardware01:49
pbiegajso anyway is anyone has had experience with the broadcom chipsets on laptops and getting them to work01:49
drummerThanks funkyhat.  I did a fresh install then set up Evolution.  I then tried to import my old info from an oldert version with no luck.  Now when I click on Evolution it says it's starting then quits.01:49
pbiegajany advice would be greatly appreciated01:49
cw2coolkev: the heat isn't likely to hurt the hd01:49
cw2zukalk: #web01:49
zukalkcw2, thanks01:50
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funkyHatdrummer, i can't help you there, sorry, i'm sure someone will be able to though01:50
coolkevi see01:50
coolkevthe reason why I'm on linux is because i have no money to bguy and operate windows01:50
kolcvkbahblahblahbah, what kind of hardware ?01:50
bahblahblahbahbe right back...this linux stuff is so confusing...-.-01:51
coolkevi taught it'll keep all costs down and now i see my hd getting hot and i get scared i have no money to buy new01:51
kolcvknaaahh linux dA BeSt01:51
kolcvk:)01:51
coolkevwhere in ubuntu i go to turn off harddisk after a while of being idle01:51
coolkevalso having low ram also casue harddisk to be used more?01:52
funkyHatcoolkev, yes it will do01:52
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kolcvkyeap01:53
kolcvkless ram , more swap is being used01:53
kolcvk:)01:53
coolkevi did that lsfo thingy and it show a bunch of stuff... what am i looking for?01:53
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tritiumnalioth, did it work?01:54
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naliothtritium: is there another channel you could join?01:55
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coolkevalso everytime i open limewire my comp runs extra slow and i see in system monitor java is using around 300 mb memory01:55
tritiumnalioth, how about /query?01:55
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naliothcoolkev: java sucks all use out of your puter (esp if you are ram-impaired to start with)01:55
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Dr_Willis heh01:55
pbiegajcan anyone offer me help on the wireless front?01:55
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pbiegajor anyone have a compaq presario v2311us01:56
pbiegaj?01:56
Dr_Willisyes i do01:56
Dr_Willis:P01:56
Dr_Willisjust got it today even01:56
coolkevis there any alternative to limewire01:56
coolkevthat doesn't hog my ram01:56
Dr_Williscoolkev,  dozens of them.01:56
coolkevplease tell me01:56
pbiegajDr_Willis really?01:56
Dr_Willischeck out the gnutella clients at the gnutella homepage.01:56
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pbiegajDr_Willis, have you had any luck?01:56
pbiegajgetting the wireless working?01:57
Dr_Willispbiegaj,  I got ubuntu going on it right now. No idea on wireless01:57
Dr_Willisi had to use the noapci /noapic options to get it to boot right.01:57
pbiegajgotcha slick laptop isn't it?01:57
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pbiegajyeah my bootup the first time was really slow01:57
Dr_Willispbiegaj,  it has its good and bad points. :P but it was cheap.01:57
Dr_Willisthe first boot worked.. went to x and hung. :P01:57
Dr_Willisthen was real real real slow the next boot.. so i rebooted and tried those optons01:57
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pbiegajDr_Willis, I think it's really nice for the price01:58
Dr_Willissince i assumed it was some cpu-throtteling issue.01:58
coolkevhttp://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.net/01:58
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coolkevanyone use that program before?01:58
Dr_Willispbiegaj,  bestbuy had them for like $850 after mail in rebates01:58
nickrudmany times01:58
pbiegajDr_Willis, btw I imagine you know that you have to chance the xorg.conf file to use vesa instead of the proper radeon driver01:58
Dr_Williscoolkev,  thats the 'definitive' orginal client.01:58
pbiegajDr_Willis, right that's where I got mine01:58
Dr_Willispbiegaj,  actually GDM started up just fine.01:58
naliothcoolkev: gtk-gnutella works great01:59
Dr_Willisnot got it all the way to X yet. :P01:59
coolkevand not a memory hog?01:59
naliothcoolkev: saves your system - doesnt use java01:59
pbiegajDr_Willis, really? mine locked up once you logged in and I guess some other people had a similar problem01:59
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pbiegajDr_Willis, maybe my not turning off acpi caused it to lock up01:59
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Dr_Willispbiegaj,  yea not sure.. booting to X - lets see01:59
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pbiegajDr_Willis, well in any case if you happen to try and get the wireless working let me know what you did, I can't see the wlan0 device02:00
pbiegajDr_Willis, even though I installed the ndiswrapper module without a problem02:00
pbiegajand have all the other things properly configured02:00
brainsickis anyone familiar with the LVM/EVMS capabilities of Ubuntu?  I have a bunch of questions02:00
Dr_Willislol.. went to gdm.. selected icewm.. and gdm hung.02:00
Dr_Willis:P02:00
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Dr_Willismake a web site  pbiegaj  with all ya configs02:00
Dr_Willis:P02:00
Dr_Willisand that linux laptops site.02:01
Cooner750Ok. I finally got GParted to work and I have a 6GB EXT2(or 3?) partition on my external USB drive02:01
coolkevhow do i get gtk-gnutella on ubuntu? apt-get install gtk-gnutella?02:01
pbiegajDr_Willis, I plan on contributing to linux laptops once I get this all up and running02:01
pbiegajbut it's still a process02:01
Dr_Williscoolkev,  that would be my guess02:01
pbiegajDr_Willis, gotta eat brb02:01
Dr_Willispbiegaj,  ok.. keep me informed. :P02:01
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coolkevubuntu is gtk2?02:02
socommcoolkev: Ubuntu is a GNU/Linux distro.02:02
Dr_Willisgtk2 is a programing library02:02
coolkevno theres two versions of gtk-gnutella one is gtk1 and other is gtk202:02
Dr_Willisget the 2 :P02:02
coolkevok02:03
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Cooner750Now. How do I install Ubuntu to that partition?02:03
Cooner750Use the Ubuntu Install CD?02:03
zukalkcoolkev, but you *could* use 1 too, as long as you have the libraries needed02:03
Dr_WillisCooner750,  the installer saw and showed my usb drives...   not that i tried it however.02:03
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MrGardenHoseManwhat are the basic commands to install a program?02:03
kolcvk./cpnfigure02:03
zukalkMrGardenHoseMan, .deb packages?02:03
socommMrGardenHoseMan: synaptic02:03
kolcvkmake && make install02:03
MrGardenHoseMan.gz02:03
brainsickcan anyone point me in the right direction in regards to volume management (software raid, logical volumes, etc) on Ubuntu?  I know that LVM and EVMS are the akronyms that I want, but not much else :)02:04
kolcvktar.gz ?02:04
coolkevfor next version of ubuntu add a auto installer for tar.gz and .deb files02:04
Cooner750how long does a Ubuntu install take?02:04
MrGardenHoseManyeah02:04
MrGardenHoseManafter untaring02:04
Cooner750(forever?)_02:04
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kolcvktar -zxf file.tar.gz02:04
MrGardenHoseMan./confiure then make and then make install?02:04
kolcvk./configure02:04
kolcvkmake && make install02:04
kolcvk(as root)02:04
Cooner750do I have to use the Install CD02:04
coolkevok install .deb files?02:04
MrGardenHoseManthanks02:04
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socommCooner750: Depends on your hardware.02:05
Cooner750and what bootloader should I use?02:05
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socommCooner750: Ubuntu defaults to GRUB.02:05
zukalkcoolkev, dpkg -i <package name>.deb02:05
coolkevthanks02:05
zukalk(as root)02:05
coolkevye sudo02:05
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Cooner750My hardware is a Pavilion a720n Athlon 3200+ with 512MB RAM02:06
Cooner750and a usb 2.0 external02:06
socommCooner750: Should not take too long.02:06
nickrudcoolkev, ubuntu has excellent deb file management, dpkg -i is not the best method :)02:06
BockBilbois there a way to make none esd programs play sounds with esd configuring its sound adapter to something instead of  /dev/dsp ?02:06
Cooner750Now I just have to wait for the install .iso to download02:06
coolkevnickrud enlighten me02:06
Cooner75015%02:06
Cooner75013 min remaining02:07
nickrudcoolkev, try running sudo synaptic, that's the current management tool02:07
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coolkevohh02:07
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coolkevi know about that... but does it let u install from .deb you download?02:08
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Wckdkl0wn if i did all the updates on warty would it be like using hedgehog?02:08
socommcoolkev: You could click on the package on nautilus which should bring up an installation app.02:08
coolkevhow do i add gtk-gnutella to the Application>Internet section02:08
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socomm!smeg02:08
uboturumour has it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.02:08
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coolkevit open in archive manager02:09
Wckdkl0wnanyone know?02:09
nickrudcoolkev, gtk-gnutella is available with synaptic. First, try ctl-f and search for gtk-gnutella, see if it's available with your configuration02:09
Cooner750what bootloader should I use? (and one that's safe to install?) ? Or just use the XP boot menu?02:09
cw2Wckdkl0wn: if you set your sources to the hedghog ones and fiddle with it a bit02:10
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jasoncohenCooner750, grub is the default. it should have a selection for XP02:10
cw2Cooner750: grub or lilo, xp's is weak02:10
Cooner750Will GRUB install to the external?02:10
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Cooner750I dont want to mess with the XP installation on the internal NTFS02:11
jasoncohenthe bootloader is meant to be on the MBR02:11
socommCooner750: You're prompted for whichever you like.02:11
nickrudcoolkev, did you find it?02:11
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Cooner750Whew. I'm paramnoid when it comes to the NTFS and XP + Linux = not a good idea02:11
Dr_WillisMy lateest pc - has a bios option to select what hd to boot off of.  so i can put grub on the mbr of the linux hd (i have 2 hds) and never touch the xp drive at all.02:11
socommCooner750: You could write to the MBR or make a boot floopy.02:11
Cooner750Unfortunatly; this PC dosent have a floppy drive... Is there a floppy image that could be put on a CD? That does the same as a floppy?02:12
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Cooner750It has a space for a floppy; I just havent got a chance to put on in yet02:12
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cw2any able to play a dvd with mplayer?  i think its broke02:14
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socommcw2: Did you install all the dvd stuff?02:14
Cooner750Is there a bootable CD that does the same as the bootable floppy?02:14
coolkevnickrud yes but i got the latest from website02:14
Ginsuno, I use xine02:14
coolkevand installed it02:14
coolkevand added it to menu using smeg02:14
coolkevthanks for all the help everyone02:14
cw2socomm: i'd like to think so, it's not my first time using mplayer, but this is my first amd64 horay02:15
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socommCooner750: Doubtful.02:15
nickrudcoolkev, then, that deb would show up (after it's installed) as an obsolete or local package in synaptic02:15
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Cooner7505 min remaining on the install cd download02:15
socommcw2: Double check if you got libdvdread and the decss stuff installed.02:15
Cooner750How easy is the installer (i'm pretty much a computer expert, but I've never dealt with Linux installers)?02:15
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tsothey02:16
socommCooner750: As easy as the XP installer.02:16
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Cooner750cool02:16
rekasocomm: not quite02:16
nickrudcoolkev, sorry, I forgot it was a replacement for the existing package; it wont' be there :)02:16
tsotcan someone remind me how to install java to ubuntu02:16
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rekaCooner750: you should be OK, just choose defaultsif you're not sure02:16
cw2socomm: yeah, I think it's an liba52 issue, my output is here http://pastebin.ca/1825302:16
tsotalso I remember someone gave me a link about updates02:16
BockBilbocooner750 window expert != computer expert02:16
BockBilbo8-)02:16
rekaCooner750: are you going for dual-boot?02:16
tsotcan someone remind me that?02:16
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Cooner750yea02:16
w0wz0rzcould someone help a newb out? :)02:16
Cooner750XP on a internal NTFS02:16
socommreka: It is for me.02:16
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Cooner750and Ubuntu on a External USB 2.002:17
tsotnoone here???02:17
rekaCooner750: well, that probably makes things easier...you won't have to resize XP/create partitions.02:17
Cooner750I have 2 partitions on the external. A FAT32 that is used for windows stuff, and a 6GB EXT3(or 2? I forget) for Ubuntu02:17
w0wz0rzwhenever i try to boot with the disc i get an error :\02:17
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cw2Cooner750: does you mobo support booting off an external usb disk?02:18
robert_pectolAnyone know where I can turn of the syslog option that causes the, "-- MARK --" messages in the syslog?  Apparently there is an option in /etc/sysconfig/syslog on Red Hat and similar distros.  I can't find Ubuntu's equivalent (and no, I'm not talking about the /etc/syslog.conf file).02:18
Cooner750cw2: yes02:18
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Cooner750I hit ESC at the BIOS load screen and it lists all available boot devices, including USB02:19
slask3nnobody knows of any usb mic drivers in kernel or in ubuntu/linux generally?02:19
Cooner750That's how i booted from a pendrive for a long time02:19
rekasocomm: well, imho it isn't as easy....xp installer is virtually foolproof....ubuntu has the further responsibility of working with an existing OS (assuming most users already have XP installed)02:19
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ethicsok so ubuntu has possibly the least amount of bugs ive seen in a BTS before......im going to assume that the community sucks at reporting bugs because i have at least 6 bugs ......is there another bug reporting system thats actually used other than bugzila.ubuntu?02:19
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paxrobert_pectol: you want something verbose, wrapper/logger like snoopy?02:19
cw2Cooner750: set it as first and write grub to the usb disk.  you'll be lucky if it comes with an initrd that has the usb-storage module though02:20
w0wz0rzmy boot disc freezes up when it gets up to "Freeing unused kernel memory: 224k freed" why wont it go on to the next screen?02:20
Dr_Willisdefine 'bug' :)02:20
robert_pectolpax:   No.  I want to eliminate the, "-- MARK --" entries in my syslog.02:20
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Cooner750I have a 256MB Usb Disk? Could grub be put on that (i'm throwing ideas here; not used to the whole installing of linux)02:20
Cooner750GRUB would be fine on the external.. no issues there. I'm just trying to stay away from the internal NTFS w/ XP on it02:21
Dr_WillisCooner750,   i think it depends on the usb disk. and the mb. and bios02:21
Dr_Willisive put grub on dozens of XP drives with no problems02:21
Cooner750I can get you the MB brand if that helps :/02:21
Cooner750and model02:21
ethicsdr_willis:  segfaults on a clean install....02:21
Dr_Willisif ya need to remove it - you boot a XP cd to rescue mode and use 'fixmbr'02:21
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cw2socomm: any idea's or should I report a bug?02:22
Cooner750Unfortunatly; this computer came with XP so no XP disc..02:22
socommcw2: Probably not, try joining #mplayer.02:22
cw2Cooner750: did it comes with a restore cd?02:22
socommcw2: It's probably just a bad setup you got there.02:22
w0wz0rzmy boot disc freezes up when it gets up to "Freeing unused kernel memory: 224k freed" why wont it go on to the next screen?02:22
ubuntuthinkingHello, looking for help on getting my wireless to work with a hp932c connected on a winxp box02:22
Dr_Willistrack one down. :P ya dont need the xp serial # or anything.02:22
qt2anyone know where the beep meda player config is stored?02:22
Cooner750cw2: I think so. I'd have to look'02:22
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socommqt2: ~/.bmp02:22
MrGardenHoseMandoes ubuntu come with a c compiler?02:22
qt2ah02:22
coolkevis it save to install gaim from cvs... i just want to have the newer version then that in the ubuntu repositories02:22
GinsuCooner750: The "Knoppix Hacks" explains how to do anything with Grub, Lilo, and Windows booting.02:22
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socommMrGardenHoseMan: No you'll have to install it via apt-get or synaptic.02:23
cw2socomm: I did, seems I'm the 3rd person today with this problem on ubuntu.02:23
rekarobert_pectol: maybe try 'man syslogd'02:23
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vaderI may try to use mplayer on this laptop, I was given a p2 366 today.....heheh02:23
Cooner750i'm burning the installer image now02:23
MrGardenHoseManwhat's the package named?02:23
socommMrGardenHoseMan: After install just type `apt-get install build-essential'.02:23
rw`socomm, I am one of them.02:23
rekarobert_pectol: possibly the '-m interval' option02:23
MrGardenHoseManthanks02:23
rw`cw2, came to help :)02:23
w0wz0rzcan someone help me with this installation?02:23
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ethicsvader:  increase the cache size in mplayer and itl;l be fine02:23
socommcw2: Well I don't know, report a bug if you like. I'd just roll my own and call it a day.02:23
airmikeyanyone here on a laptop or notebook ?02:23
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cw2just wanted to see if I was missing some trick in ubuntu before I take matters into my own hands :)02:24
Cooner750burning image 40%...02:24
Cooner750i02:24
robert_pectolreka:   Yeah it's just that I'm not sure where that would be located.  It seems to be different for Ubuntu.02:24
Cooner750i'm such a paranoid person.. it's now wonder...02:24
rw`cw2, guess we will have to paste a bug.02:24
darkmatterMrGardenHoseMan: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:24
pbiegajairmikey, I am on a lapto02:24
pbiegajp02:24
pbiegajairmikey, why do you ask?02:24
airmikeygonna buy 102:24
Cooner750At least I have backups of everything on the external backed to DVD02:24
darkmatterthat will give the compiler set02:24
Cooner75070% burning02:25
hybrid_gothairmikey which one?02:25
airmikeywanna make sure i wll be able to get online02:25
pbiegajairmikey, oh I gotcha I'm still having troubles with the wireless and graphics drivers02:25
rekarobert_pectol: well, man page says /etc/syslog.conf ... but i you don't want that, right?02:25
pbiegajwhich suffice to say is a bit more than a pain in the butt02:25
ethicssocomm:  report a bug if you like.........i think you meant to say report it as a bug and then roll your own.,......that way when the next guy checks it theres actually know info....i have 6 bugs in the first 10 minutes of running ubuntu and i cant find any bts info on any of them...02:25
Cooner750Will I be able to save Ubuntu settings after it's installed?02:25
robert_pectolreka:   On a Mandrake system it's located in /etc/sysconfig/syslog which is not the same as /etc/syslog.conf02:25
airmikeyoh no02:25
Cooner750(a.k.a. - not lose anything...)02:25
airmikeydell inspiron 600002:26
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rekarobert_pectol: it wouldn't be ... they're different distros :-/02:26
socommethics: All right.02:26
Cooner750I cant tell exactly of my partition is ext3 or 2 because windows dosent see that partition so...02:26
w0wz0rzi cant even install my linux with the boot disc, could someone help me out?02:26
__learner__hi, can you help me into making my webcam work.02:26
Cooner750I think EXT302:26
robert_pectolreka:   oh, and yes, I have the man page!  Thanks anyway.02:26
Cooner750ok. burning complete. Going in for boot.02:26
Cooner750brb02:26
Cooner750hopefully :-/02:26
rekarobert_pectol: np ... 'm a bit puzzled though :)02:26
reka*i'm02:26
pbiegajanyone somewhat of an expert regarding ndiswrapper and broadcom mini pci wireless card?02:26
__learner__its LG, and I think it is supported by the OmniVision driver, I would like to know if there is any package for that.02:26
pbiegajcards?02:26
MrGardenHoseMananyone know the answer to this 'What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running02:26
MrGardenHoseMankernel?'02:26
ethicsw0wz0rz, what errors or issues do you have..02:27
pbiegajMrGardenHoseMan, I'm pretty sure you have to dl those in ubuntu02:27
pbiegajMrGardenHoseMan, you can do apt-get install linux-headers-$(uanem -r)02:27
MrGardenHoseManbuild-essential right?02:27
robert_pectolreka:   I've googled it a couple of times and have come up empty-handed thus far.02:27
pbiegajuname rather02:27
anto9uspbiegaj: what model of card is it?02:27
socommMrGardenHoseMan: You'll need to install that.02:27
ethicsMrGardenHoseMan, /usr/src/kernel-headers (YOUR KERNEL)    if its not there install them02:27
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socommMrGardenHoseMan: Most of the development stuff is left of to conserve users disk space.02:28
pbiegajsee that what I'm not certain about and finding the info even from the compaq webiste02:28
rekarobert_pectol: from man page: "Setting the interval to zero turns it off entirely"02:28
pbiegajI can give you the lspci output02:28
NardOK why is it that when i have more then one thing open that makes noise it will only play the noise made by the first one opened02:28
pbiegajanto9us, I'm searching to figure out exactely what model it is right now02:28
anto9uslspci should show it02:28
rekarobert_pectol: so maybe run: 'syslogd -m 0'02:29
w0wz0rzwhat does this error mean? "kernel panic - not syncing: no init found. try passing init= option to kernel"02:29
pbiegaj0000:05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4318 (rev 02)02:29
ethicsNard, goto alsa's webpage and find dmix:plugin02:29
j_fletcherwhats the best place for gnome desklets? except the site gdesklets.gnomedesktop?02:29
Nardalsa's?02:29
supernixI was curious how can I locate the file where results are cached for BIND9 ?02:29
anto9uspbiegaj: I have a BCM4309 working on my laptop with ndiswrapper02:29
ethicsw0wz0rz, it means it cant find your hard disks...02:29
w0wz0rzuh02:30
ethicsw0wz0rz,  thats from boot disk or cdrom etc?02:30
w0wz0rzalright let me switch the ribbon cable one sec02:30
w0wz0rzcdrom02:30
Nardethics, what is alsa's webpage... maybe some linkage02:30
anto9uspbiegaj: it's using the driver supplied by Dell for the truemobile 145002:30
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ethicsnard: google alsa linux sound.......alsa-project  i think  its called02:31
pbiegajanto9us, I have a compaq presario v2311us02:31
ethicsnard:id link but im on a 56k link atm02:31
Nardoh02:31
Nardthat's fine02:31
Nardi'll find it02:31
StabFace...I have an inspiron 1100 and I'm have a problem with the resolution and I've checked the forums and done the advice can someone help me if they know how?02:31
lupus1010gtk uses stock icons02:31
lupus1010what does qt use?02:31
rekaj_fletcher: aren't gdesklets in the repo?02:31
lupus1010anyone?02:31
anto9uspbiegaj: the driver inf file used is bcmwl5a, I've known this driver to work on other manufacturer's laptops02:31
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pbiegajthat's what I"m using right now02:32
lupus1010is there something like gtk stock icons in qt?02:32
pbiegajbut I've tried the bcmwl5 driver as well02:32
pbiegajthe problem is when I try to set the iwconfig parameters02:32
socommlupus1010: Yes, they're the crystal icons.02:32
ethicslupus1010, maybee need to download some but yeah there are02:32
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pbiegajit says wlan0 not found02:33
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reka!tell StabFace about fixres02:33
anto9uspbiegaj: the bcmwl5 isn't supported by ndiswrapper, does ndiswrapper list the hardware and driver as present?02:33
pbiegajrather no such device sorry02:33
robert_pectolreka:   Well, not knowing where to put specify option, I stuck the following in /etc/syslog.conf:  SYSLOGD_OPTIONS="-m 0 -r"      Hopefully that'll do it.02:33
pbiegajit will list the driver02:33
pbiegajmy understanding that both drivers work with ndiswrapper02:33
w0wz0rzethics02:33
StabFacethanks let me check rika02:33
lupus1010socomm, in gtk you can use GTK_STOCK_ICON and it knows what icon I want02:33
w0wz0rzi just switched the ribbon cables now i get another error02:33
pbiegajanto9us, so it's really a pain02:33
rekarobert_pectol: i was under the impression running syslogd would alter the conf file. :-/02:33
lupus1010how does this in qt work?02:34
anto9uspbiegaj: didn't for me, I had to unload the bcmwl5 driver before the bcmwl5a would work02:34
robert_pectolreka:   So far, so good.  No complaints from the logger upon restarting sysklogd...02:34
w0wz0rz"Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"02:34
ethicsw0wz0rz, is it a better one i wonder hehe.,..whats it saying now hehe02:34
w0wz0rzbasically the same thing02:34
lupus1010so http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gtk/gtk-Stock-Items.html#GTK-STOCK-PRINT:CAPS  but in qt (does it exist or not?)02:34
pbiegajanto9us, I tried both independent of one another02:34
ethicsw0wz0rz, yeah...what kind of ide controller is it?02:34
pbiegajand still nothing02:34
w0wz0rzhow can i find out lol02:35
ethicsw0wz0rz, sata?  nforce, intell,via,ali,sis?02:35
anto9uspbiegaj: what does ndiswrapper -l say?02:35
w0wz0rzide = ?02:35
lupus1010any kde developers here?02:35
pbiegajanto9us, Installed ndis drivers:02:35
pbiegajbcmwl5a driver present02:35
ethicsw0wz0rz, should give you some idea on the bootup screens for bios02:35
vladuz976can someone help me? my man pages require sudo, what could that be?02:35
w0wz0rzoh lanparty mobo02:35
anto9uspbiegaj: does it not say hardware present?02:35
pbiegajanto9us, should it?02:35
anto9uspbiegaj: yes02:35
pbiegajanto9us, maybe this card uses a different .inf file02:36
anto9uspbiegaj: maybe02:36
pbiegajanto9us, does ndiswrapper support any other .inf files?02:36
reka!tell vladuz976 about rootsudo02:36
searcher`is anyone here having crashing problems with the updated firefox package?02:36
searcher`my firefox keeps crashing every few minutes, even with a new profile02:36
anto9uspbiegaj: there's an hardware database on their site I think02:36
searcher`and no extensions02:36
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w0wz0rzethics02:36
ethicsw0wz0rz, you may need to probe the drivers yourself etc...id be googling for debian/ubuntu install and your motherboard name model and chipsets stuff....itll be supported by something just not autodetecting02:36
pbiegajanto9us, thanks I'll look into it02:36
w0wz0rzhow can i find out what ide i have02:37
robert_pectolreka:   Anytime I've modified my /etc/syslog.conf file, the changes have stayed so not sure what you're referring to...02:37
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brainsickhow does one setup a new hard drive in Ubuntu?02:37
ethicsw0wz0rz, bios info doesnt say much on boot regarding chipsets?  perhaps the manual if you have it?02:37
StabFacereka: restarting thiank you for your help lets see if this works02:37
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w0wz0rzone sec02:37
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rekarobert_pectol: nvm ... i'm probably just confused.  you seem to have fixed it anyway. :)02:38
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thespiritoftalhi02:38
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robert_pectolreka:   Hopefully :-)  Time will tell.  Anyhow, thanks!02:38
rekanp02:38
thespiritoftalCan someone tell me how to install java to ubuntu? Also someone here gave me a site with some explanations about installing new things to ubuntu... does anyone know that? thanks02:39
anto9usbrainsick: create a partition on it, format it and set mount points to it, you can use gparted to do it02:39
w0wz0rzit says ide interface with nvidia raid02:39
cw2how can I tell what the ./configure line for a program was?02:39
brainsickanto9us: it's on a server install02:39
rekathespiritoftal: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 02:39
paxthespiritoftal: ubuntuguide.org use at your own risk02:39
w0wz0rzthat help ethics?02:39
ghetekhow can i make a super small kernel and just have it use mpg123?02:40
brainsickanto9us: is it as simple as fdisk / mkfs?  there's no need to get the EVMS stuff involved?02:40
socommthespiritoftal:02:40
socomm!restricted02:40
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:40
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BockBilbois there a good rss agregator program for gnome?02:40
anto9usbrainsick: yes, and edit fstab to set your mount points02:40
socommthespiritoftal: It's explained on the above like.02:40
blmartin777Can I use the gnome-wireless network applet in fvwm and how do I invoke it02:40
w0wz0rzit says i have ide interface with nvidia raid ethics02:40
thespiritoftalthanks02:40
rekathespiritoftal: be forewarned the site pax linked to is not held in high regard here...better to use the wiki pages, or ask us directly.02:41
searcher`BockBilbo: blam is nice02:41
thespiritoftalI see02:41
brainsickanto9us: do you have any familiarity with EVMS?02:41
ethicsw0wz0rz, yeah a bit,  try searching google for "nvidia IDE RAID debian Ubuntu installer "  good chance someone knows the nvidia ide stuff better than i,  im always intel 8(02:41
shadeofgreyanybody here familiar with site5 hosting?02:41
shadeofgreymy account with them is fubared and i could use some help02:42
anto9usbrainsick: it's quite similar to raid isn't it, only expandable?02:42
w0wz0rzethics do ou have msn or aim we could talk on?02:42
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BockBilbothanks sean13_02:43
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BockBilboi mean, searcher`02:43
rekacw2: afaik, a plain './configure' will use the defaults ... read the README/INSTALL file for more info02:43
rekacw2: what are you installing anyway?02:43
ethicsw0wz0rz, not at the moment unfortunately,  Im on a server in a warehouse heheh i only manage to get xchat text up hehe02:43
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Cooner750HELP02:43
w0wz0rzok..so what do i need to get02:43
brainsickanto9us: it has logical volumes (expandable) and I believe it can do RAID as well, but ... I'm looking for some information on how to make it useful :)02:43
ghetekCooner750: no02:43
Cooner750I get "Could not open /dev/console" and then "Kernal Panic - Not Syncing - Attempted to Kill Init!" Help. I installed; but cant load Ubuntu02:44
w0wz0rzcooner i get the same second error as you02:44
anto9usbrainsick: any multi-spindle system can do raid02:44
paxnow let's not scare people too much, ubuntuguide.org is not a national security treath or anything like that, it is fine just don't explain the commands so no theory but plain commands.02:44
brainsickanto9us: how?02:44
Cooner750anybody? What can I do about this?02:44
j_fletcherreka: some, but i'm looking for some specific ones to make a nice looking desktop, I know its nothing important, but it's just something I'd like.02:45
Cooner750I got this same error when trying to load Slax off of a USB pendrive02:45
w0wz0rzcooner they said that its because the computer cannot find our hard drives lol02:45
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rekapax: well, the ops in here advise against it:02:45
reka!ubuntuguide02:45
ubotumethinks ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.02:45
Cooner750lovely. So I wasted today partitioning a hard drive for no reason!?02:45
paxreka: depends what ops we are talking about02:45
cw2reka: i want to recompile a package that isn't working right (mplayer) and would like a starting place so I'd like to know what was used on the package ubuntu has02:45
w0wz0rzhey your getting farther then i am :02:45
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anto9usbrainsick: what I did was create several raid partitions using the ubuntu installer and then set an array (md0) and added those partitions to it02:45
paxreka, bob2 is not only op, he also is an employee and link to that site with no warnings or problems :)02:46
Cooner750!? Are my messages going in one side of the server and out the other?02:46
ubotuCooner750: okay02:46
rekapax: Seveas and nalioth to name two of them02:46
paxreka, ok and?02:46
w0wz0rzi feel the same way :\02:47
Cooner750ugh this is frustrating. Install went perfect02:47
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Cooner750and now it dosent even load02:47
brainsickanto9us: "create several raid partitions" -- you had to identify them as raid when you created them?  and how did you create the md0 array (or, rather, how would you do it outside of the "ubuntu installer"?)02:47
Cooner750GRUB even works on the MBR02:47
w0wz0rzmy installer didnt even load yet, dont feel bad02:47
cw2I'd have to agree that ubunutguide is bunk.. "who to install xchm: apt-get install xchm"... come on, for something that easy wouldn't you just search in the package manager?02:47
anto9usbrainsick: I think parted can do it02:47
RugmonsterCooner750: you sure grub is configured properly?02:47
paxreka, do you think for yourself or let others think and decide for you? tell me what's so dangerous about the guide?02:47
A[D] minSis there myplayer for ubuntu?02:47
A[D] minSmplayer*02:47
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rekapax: i admit i can't think of others ... most other ops aren't active when i'm in here...02:47
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Cooner750Rugmonster: Yes. It boots Ubuntu fine, and when Ubuntu starts to load... BAM! error02:48
Cooner750from02:48
cw2A[D] minS: yes, it seems to have issues with dvd's though02:48
radiodog_how does hardware monitoring work in ubuntu?02:48
Cooner750the Ubuntu side02:48
rekapax: inclusion of backports n ther sample sources.list02:48
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cw2A[D] minS: or anything with ac3 audio02:48
A[D] minScw2, but i can't find it02:48
TheRabbitCan someone tell me of a SNES emulator that will run on Ubuntu?  and I guess of what I need to do to get it...02:48
cw2A[D] minS: enable universe and multiverse repositories02:48
Cooner750.02:48
paxreka, alright then, dont alarm newbies too much. backports are fine by devs not just ops.02:48
A[D] minScw2, all enabled02:49
cw2A[D] minS: was there for me02:49
benkong2how can I make sure dhcpd is only serving ip addresses on my eth1?02:49
IIIEarsCooner750  -  Yah - grub is broken for some configurations really frustrating. - there are a bunch of howtos on the ubuntu forum they are comepletely confusing if you are new to linux02:49
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rekaTheRabbit: zsnes and snes9x are in the repo ... you can get them using synaptic/apt-get02:49
Cooner750any documents on this error?02:49
MrITRcan't seem to play anytype of video with either mplayer or totem .avi or .mpg are there codecs i need to download for this?02:49
Cooner750I shouldve installed Lilo then?02:49
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A[D] minScw2, with name mplayer?02:49
brainsickanto9us: thank you02:49
vladuz976anybody know how to burn cd's from command line? i get errors with cdrecord02:49
socommMrITR:02:49
socomm!win3202:50
ubotusocomm: I give up, what is it?02:50
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rekapax: point taken...and you did warn him about the lack of explanation.02:50
coolkevyou ned the win32codec02:50
socomm!restricted02:50
ubotuhmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:50
A[D] minS!mplayer02:50
ubotumplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto02:50
socommGet the codecs from tehre.02:50
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anto9usbrainsick: good luck, and yes, you define the pysical raid partitions before adding them to the logical, software raid.02:50
Cooner750How does GRUB cause a Kernal Panic?02:50
MrITRalright02:50
benkong2anyone? how can I make sure dhcpd is only serving ip addresses on my eth1?02:50
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IIIEarsnah - grub is a little easier? - heh - actually lilo needs an extra step to enable it after making changes. - i would stick with grub02:50
socommCooner750: This is most likely a hardware issue.02:50
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occyroot@atomic:~ # umount /mnt02:50
occyumount: /mnt: device is busy02:50
occyhow can I see what's using /mnt ?02:50
cw2A[D] minS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto02:51
ethicsoccy, fuser lsof02:51
IIIEars!grub02:51
ubotuI guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto02:51
coolkeveverytime i boot up ubuntu boot screen is all fuzzy... and then later on it get normal just before it's finished loading02:51
coolkevanyone know why?02:51
ethicsoccy, prolly lsof on the dev...02:51
rekaIIIEars: did you change your nick a day or two ago?02:51
ethicsoccy also theres a -l option on umount for forcing it if it happens to be FAM02:51
IIIEarsslightly - yes iiears_02:52
cw2coolkev: is it an lcd?02:52
gigaclonanyone know why RealPlayer freezes when i try to play something?02:52
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occygam_serve  9039    october   73r      DIR       48,8    4096          2 /mnt02:52
A[D] minSoccy, what do u want to do?02:52
cw2gigaclon: other than realplayer being a steaming turd?02:52
occyhmm02:52
coolkevno crt02:52
occytrying to umount it.02:52
occyheh02:52
gigacloncw2, yeah02:52
anto9usoccy: I've never unmounted /mnt only mounts within it02:52
coolkevjust when it starts to boot up.. the black screen where the kernala nd all that stuff loads it's comlpetely fuzzy02:53
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Cooner750ugh frustrating02:53
gigaclonI got to have my npr02:53
A[D] minSumount /mnt ?02:53
crimsunoccy, nautilus being naughty?02:53
occycrimsun, I think so...02:53
occycrimsun, hey buddy.02:53
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socommgigaclon: You ever try using a radio?02:53
occycrimsun, first 100 mile bike last Saturday!02:53
coolkevye nautilus crashes alot02:53
crimsunoccy, try killing nautilus (it'll restart)02:53
w0wz0rzwhy doesnt my boot disc go past "Freeing unused kernel memory: 224k freed"?02:53
coolkevand from time to time so does gnome-panel02:53
crimsunoccy, excellent!02:53
occycrimsun, gearing up for Ironman Florida! w00p02:53
Cooner750How can I get back to reconfigure GRUB if somethin is wrong with it?02:53
cw2Cooner750: boot of the cd02:54
coolkevis there a keyboard shortcut to opening terminal>?02:54
occycrimsun, hmmm, killed nautilus02:54
Cooner750wouldnt that start the installer (again)02:54
robert_pectolreka:   Are you still around?02:54
occyand still /mnt is busy.02:54
cw2Cooner750: then mount and chroot02:54
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gigaclonsocomm, i sometimes do that, but mostly too busy, thats why I stream it off npr.org02:54
socommcoobra: ctl+alt+F<N>02:54
Cooner750dont forget02:54
Cooner750I cant run Ubuntu off the HD here02:54
occyroot@atomic:~ # lsof |grep mnt02:54
occygam_serve  9039    october   73r      DIR       48,8    4096          2 /mnt02:54
cw2occy: have you restarted fam yet? /etc/init.d/fam restart02:54
IIIEarsCooner750 - erm. - before i got the knack of grub /boot/grub/menu.lst editing - i cheated and loaded ubuntu to a second hard drive and used the bios to alternately enable different drives as master/slave02:54
crimsunoccy, you don't have some app with /mnt open, do you?02:54
socommgigaclon: You may want to try mplayer with real player codecs, that may work.02:55
Cooner750brb02:55
occycrimsun, I did before, not anymore.02:55
Cooner750let me try the BIOS02:55
occycw2, let me try that.02:55
rekarobert_pectol: what's up?02:55
robert_pectolreka:   I figured it out I think!  The options go directly in the init script for sysklogd as a startup argument!02:55
anto9usoccy: is anything in /mnt mounted?02:55
occyroot@atomic:~ # ls /etc/init.d/fam02:55
occyls: /etc/init.d/fam: No such file or directory02:55
coolkevi have gaim 2.002:55
gigaclonsocomm, i tryed that with windows media feeds02:55
robert_pectolIn Mandrake they have a separate file which the init script parses for startup args...02:55
occy /dev/rd/c0d1          116G   36G   75G  32% /mnt02:55
w0wz0rzalright im getting pissed off now02:55
coolkevup and running on ubuntu02:56
socommw0wz0rz: Is this a default kernel?02:56
gigaclonsocomm, how would i do that02:56
socommVanilla kernel.02:56
socomm!restricted02:56
ubotusomebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:56
w0wz0rzi have not put anything on the hard drive yet02:56
occyroot@atomic:~ # df -h |grep mnt02:56
occy/dev/rd/c0d1          116G   36G   75G  32% /mnt02:56
robert_pectolreka:   Anyway, just in case you were interested...02:56
rekarobert_pectol: hehe, thanks.02:56
w0wz0rzi just got a 64 bit02:56
occy:/02:56
socommgigaclon: Download the win32codecs, that contains rp9, wm9, and qt codecs.02:56
vladuz976anybody else have this problem with cdrecord02:57
coolkevcw2: Do you a solution to that problem i had, witht eh fuzzy screne02:57
IIIEarsw0wz0rz - relax take a deep breath and know if you stay someone will walk you through it.02:57
gigaclonpackage w32codecs right?02:57
socommgigaclon: Yea.02:57
cw2coolkev: maybe a low refresh rate?02:57
w0wz0rzive been here for 20 mins and im still at the same screen :p02:57
cw2coolkev: or too hihj of one02:57
coolkevcw2: it happens only when ubuntu first boot right after GRUb where the kernal loads02:57
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socommgigaclon: It should work fine for audio feeds, I wouldn't be surprised if the video feeds just crapped out though.02:57
cw2or a crappy monitor02:58
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coolkevcw2: it's like dos so I don't know how there is a resolution problem02:58
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coolkevcw2: it runs perfect after like now02:58
occyroot@atomic:~ # ps aux | grep 903902:58
occyoctober   9039  0.0  0.1   2644  1416 ?        S    20:02   0:00 /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server02:58
occyroot     10787  0.0  0.0   1592   448 pts/1    S+   20:58   0:00 grep 903902:58
occyroot@atomic:~ #02:58
IIIEarsw0wz0rz, - just logged in could you repeat your question?02:58
w0wz0rzuh02:59
w0wz0rzwhy doesnt my boot disc go past "Freeing unused kernel memory: 224k freed"?02:59
rekacoolkev: edit the ubuntu grub entry and append vga=ask to the end02:59
occycrimsun, what is gam_server ?02:59
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rekacoolkev: then try the different text modes to see if one of them clears it up.02:59
coolkevreka how do i edit grub?02:59
crimsunoccy, monitors changes to files02:59
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occycan I kill that process?02:59
occycrimsun, or how do I restart it?02:59
funkyHathow do i create desktop applets?02:59
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bob2pax: some of the stuff on ubuntuguide is just stupid03:00
rekacoolkev: well, you can edit a file directly if you want ... or you can type vga=ask when the grub menu shows up by pressing 'e'03:00
bob2pax: the "how to mount a windows partition" stuff looked ok, tho, so I point people at that to avoid typing03:00
crimsunoccy, there's an init script in /etc/init.d/03:01
gigaclonsocomm, no dice on using MPlayer it just does nothing03:01
rekacoolkev: append it to the end03:01
occycrimsun, root@atomic:/etc/init.d # ls gam*03:01
occyls: gam*: No such file or directory03:01
abarbacciahey, whats the site that has the list of working wireless cards in ubuntu03:01
madmavricwhats a good repository for installing sun-j2re03:01
paxbob2: no doubt, but not to the point to bash it or scare the hell outta newbies. a simple warning that the guide is not supported by Ubuntu/the community would be enough :)03:01
GinsuAnyone:  How do I share an Icon or panel between multiple users' desktops.03:02
rekapax: i wasn't that harsh was i? :)03:02
madmavricwhats a good repository for installing sun-j2re03:02
bob2pax: right03:02
gigaclon!mplayer03:02
ubotumethinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto03:02
bob2Ginsu: you can't03:02
bob2Ginsu: what are you trying to do?03:02
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paxreka, oh please you are respected and appreciated for what you do, to disagree doesnt mean disrespect :)03:03
bob2madmavric: no need to repeat...wiki.ubuntu.com/Java03:03
MIK3MANheya bob03:03
Ginsubob2: similar to sharing stuff like in Windows putting something in the "All Users\Desktop"03:03
bob2Ginsu: what do you want to put there?03:03
virguleI have an idea!!  ->a GUI frontend for renice!<- It will work similiar to xkill but is used to renice running processes!03:04
Ginsubob2: I'd like to set up common icons and files for my other family members.  It makes it easier for them.03:04
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madmavricwhats a good repository for installing sun-j2re03:04
bob2madmavric: dude, I answered you already03:04
Jet2k5hey does anyone know what I have to add to my xorg.conf to extend my refresh rate?03:04
crimsunoccy, what about /usr/lib/gam* ?03:04
madmavricsorry didnt see it03:04
bob2Ginsu: you can put things in /etc/skel/, and they;ll be copied into new user's home directories03:04
bob2Jet2k5: it's not simple, and it's card and monitor specific03:05
Jet2k5bob2: I know what it goes up to03:05
madmavricbob2 that doesnt answer my question03:05
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bob2Jet2k5: if you're not using a kvm, and ubuntu didn't pick the right refresh rate, please file a bug03:05
Cooner750Ugh. Here are the errors: http://myfilestash.com/userfiles/Cooner750/darn_errors.html03:05
Jet2k5bob2: in windows I can go up to 85hz at 1280x102403:05
bob2madmavric: er, yes it does03:05
anto9usvirgule: gnome-system-monitor can do that03:05
madmavrictheres no repository listed there03:05
Jet2k5bob2: well I'm it sort of did and didn't03:05
Ginsubob2: But I understand that only works for new user IDs.  I don't want existing family members have to create icons.03:05
Jet2k5it only leaves me at 60Hz03:05
ethicsits not a repo build..03:05
Jet2k5but In windows I get the option to go higher03:05
bob2Ginsu: then you'll have to copy them, sorry03:06
Jet2k5I'm running this screen of a laptop03:06
cw2Jet2k5: you need modelines03:06
bob2Ginsu: or symlink thewir ~/Desktop to somewhere central03:06
Jet2k5cw2: ok what do I put in?03:06
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Cooner750.......03:06
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Ginsubob2: link to a common desktop would work.03:06
cw2Jet2k5: there's a util to gte it for you, hold on03:06
Jet2k5k thanks03:06
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qt2bash: /usr/local/bin/amute: Permission denied <- why would i be getting this?03:07
madmavrici dont have time to build it, i just need a repository that has the sun package ready to go03:07
bob2Cooner750: a) don't be impatient, b) that's with a default kernel?03:07
Cooner750yes default03:07
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bob2madmavric: sorry, doesn't exist, blame Sun03:07
bob2or use blackdown, which is old03:07
Cooner750sorry for being impatient. It's just bugging me03:07
madmavricyes it does, ive installed from repository before03:07
Ginsubob2: Can a single nautilus panel be linked to a common area?03:07
bob2Ginsu: I don't know hat a nautilus panel is03:07
MIK3MANcould someone with some experience with java plz PM me. I want to get mine up and running03:08
madmavricas usual, not much help in here03:08
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madmavricgoodbye, on to debian, they at least know how to help people03:08
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Ginsubob2: panels are the borders in ubuntu that hold the icons and menu.  I may have got the terms wrong.03:08
virgulemy point is to have a mini-app to sit on a toolbar/taskbar/desktop icon that does just that. 1- launch renice GUI frontend 2- point&click a window/app (a box with a slider is shown to the user) 3- use the slider to renice the targeted app03:08
bob2Ginsu: it's nothing to do with nautilus03:08
bob2virgule: it's not generally possible03:09
virguleshould be part of xutils03:09
Riddelllupus1010: I'm a kde developer03:09
MIK3MANmadmavric: are you talking about java?03:09
bob2Ginsu: no, I can't think how you would share the panel settings03:09
Ginsubob2: Sorry... Gnome panels.  Are they stored someplace that can be linked?03:09
gigacloncan someone help me get ram files running mplayer ( I have w32codecs ) installed03:09
lupus1010Riddell, has kde something like the gtk_stock icons?03:09
rekaMIK3MAN: he's gone .. if only he waited 30 seconds:03:10
rekafor java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 03:10
bob2Ginsu: not simply, gconf looks after it.  what's the advantage of forcing everyone to share a panel config, but not a home directory?03:10
lupus1010how do you set the printer icon in your apps for example03:10
cw2Jet2k5: use the program "gtf", for instance, if you want 1280x1024@75 run "gtf 1280 1024 75", then take the ouput and put it in your xorg.conf in your monitor section03:10
Riddelllupus1010: kdelibs comes with a bunch of icons that are guaranteed to be there03:10
bob2reka: yes, he/she complained about having to do anything like that03:10
bob2virgule: since X apps don't have to run o nthe machine running the X server03:10
lupus1010can you show me some documentation about this?03:10
bob2virgule: if you wanted to do a special case one, tho, it wouldn't be very hard03:10
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lupus1010and it is in kde and not in qt?03:11
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cw2Jet2k5: you may also need to change the HorizSync to something like 30-10003:11
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MIK3MANreka: I did all that and this is the msg I get < Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...03:11
MIK3MANOOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE [java = SableVM] 03:11
MIK3MANYou need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com03:11
MIK3MANJava exec found in  /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/03:11
MIK3MANOOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE  [/usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java = Error] 03:11
MIK3MANYou need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com03:11
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MIK3MAN>03:11
Ginsubob2:  Basically, I can magically put an icon on everyone's desktop without them have to create one themselves.03:11
Riddelllupus1010: yes, kde.  qt doesn't come with icons as far as I know03:11
DAC1138gigaclon, realplayer is in the apt-get ubuntu universe repo, just use that03:11
virguleit would work just like xkill but it does renice a targeted process value instead of killing it. If I were a programmer it would be done in 5 minutes im sure03:11
bob2MIK3MAN: please don't paste03:11
virgule;)03:11
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bob2virgule: it's easy to claim things you can't do are easy03:12
virgulebob2: I know a cake is tasty without baking it ;)03:12
bob2Ginsu: that's not to do with the panel.  just make everyone's ~/Desktop a symlink to /var/tmp/Desktop/ or such and put things in there03:12
Cooner750?03:12
lupus1010Riddell, and where do you find a list with those icons?03:12
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Ginsubob2:  Thanks.  I give it try.03:12
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supernixI have java installed but it wont work for mozilla03:13
DAC1138supernix, mozilla or firefox?03:13
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supernixmozilla03:13
supernixi have not tried firefox yet03:13
DAC1138supernix, works fine in firefox on hoary03:13
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MIK3MANsupernix: I have the same problem, says mine is installed, but I am trying to config for Azureus03:14
Cooner750hmm03:14
DAC1138supernix, i remember for mozilla, there was a ~/.mozilla/plugins folder that you hade to put symlinks in03:14
imcsk8i have a problem with openoffice, i can't see my printer03:15
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w0wz0rzcan someone please tell me how to fix the error "kernel panic - not syncing: no init found. try passing init= option to kernel"03:15
jasoncohenimcsk8, did you add your printer in system > administration > printing?03:15
DAC1138w0wz0rz, i have that same problem03:15
Cooner750w0wz0rx: I'm wondering the same03:16
DAC1138w0wz0rz, even linuxquestions.org cant help03:16
MIK3MANgrrr, I am gonna hit distrowatch... bbiab03:16
jasoncohensupernix, did you install firefox from mozilla's site?03:16
imcsk8yes, i can print using mozilla but when i try to print a document using openoffice in the pinter dialog i jus see "Generic printer" and not my printer03:16
linuxuserlooking for a better distro? hehe03:16
bob2DAC1138: w0wz0rz what was the subject of the email you guys sent to the mailing list?03:16
Cooner750My exact error is here: http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/cooner750/darn_errors.html03:16
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kutucapew0wz0rz, did you upgrade your kernel?03:16
jasoncohenimcsk8, so you added your printer and firefox/mozilla shows it by openoffice doesn't? did you restart OO after adding the printer?03:16
DAC1138bob2, no, i havent sent anything to the mailing list, except for my graphics card glitch a few months back03:17
w0wz0rzhow do i do that?03:17
bob2DAC1138: I'd suggest asking there03:17
Cooner750ugh. this is buggin me03:17
Cooner750I had the same problem with Slax on a pendrive03:17
DAC1138no, im staying away from the mailing list03:17
bob2Cooner750: this is a default install?03:17
imcsk8jasoncohen, yes i even restarted the machine03:17
jasoncohensupernix, if you install their official build, you need to delete the plugins directory in firefox-installer and do "ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins plugins"03:17
Cooner750bob2: yes03:17
DAC1138i sent in my gfx glitch information, and in the next version of ubuntu, total support for my card stopped working03:18
bob2Cooner750: it never worked?03:18
qt2would someone mind looking over a script and telling me how to get it working?03:18
jasoncohenimcsk8, go to system > administration > printing03:18
bob2DAC1138: and you filed a bug report?03:18
jasoncohenmake sure it shows the printer03:18
Cooner750on a USB 2.0 External Drive. Starts loading fine and it... it stops. No I just installed it tonight...03:18
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DAC1138bob2, for the gfx card yes03:18
supernixactually I installed everything from the ubuntu repository03:18
imcsk8jasoncohen, (by the way i'm using hoary on AMD64) yes i can see it03:18
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DAC1138bob2, and thats when it stopped working in the next ubuntu release (this was back in warty)03:18
bob2Cooner750: er, is that supported at all?03:18
bob2I somehow doubt usb modules are in the initrd03:18
jasoncohenimcsk8, what's the printer?03:18
qt2!java03:18
ubotuI heard java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.03:18
jasoncohensupernix, and what doesn't work?03:19
Cooner750yes. It works fine. Ubuntu starts loading and it gets to "Starting Ubuntu..." and the errors are right under that03:19
supernixbrb03:19
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jasoncohensupernix, how did you install java?03:20
jasoncohensupernix, if you used backports it'll create the links for you03:20
jasoncohensupernix, if you installed manually you'll have to create the links yourself03:20
jasoncohenjava-package should create the links as well03:20
Cooner750I have no clue what the issue is. But it is not fun03:21
kutucape!tuxracer03:21
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, kutucape03:21
bob2Cooner750: try asking on the mailing list, I guess03:21
kutucapehmm, ubuntu has no tuxracer?03:21
Cooner750hmm....03:21
imcsk8jasoncohen, , it's a network printer, i'm sure it's working because i just printed a test page03:21
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Computer__Guruhai, fsckers03:21
rekakutucape: it's in universe03:21
reka!tell kutucape about repositories03:21
jasoncohenimcsk8, and the only program it doesn't work with is OO?03:21
imcsk8jasoncohen, yes03:21
jasoncohendid you try printing to the generic printer03:21
Cooner750.. I thought it would work, looks like I was wrong. Ubuntu works great on a LiveCD03:22
imcsk8ok03:22
jasoncohenimcsk8, what printer?03:22
jasoncohenimcsk8, OO shows my networked Epson stylus C84 fine03:22
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imcsk8jasoncohen, hp inkjet 110003:23
imcsk8jasoncohen, the generic printer does not print03:23
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imcsk8in my other machine i can see that printer without problem using openoffice, cuould the openoffice for hoary on amd64 be broken??03:24
jasoncohenimcsk8, i don't know what to tell you...sorry03:24
Computer__Guruim bored03:24
jasoncohenimcsk8, the amd64 openoffice is just compiled for 32 bit mode- so it's really like i38603:24
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Cooner750computer__guru: same here03:25
Computer__Guruand im stoned03:25
imcsk8jasoncohen, don't worry i have like an hour or so looking through the ubuntu forums03:25
imcsk8thanks03:25
Cooner750And i'm having flippant issues with Ubuntu03:25
vladuz976my man pages need sudo to access them. anybody know how to fix that?03:25
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Computer__Gurulike what?03:25
qt2would someone mind looking over a script and telling me how to get it working?03:25
Cooner750Ugh: http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/cooner750/darn_errors.html03:26
Cooner750stupid thing03:26
bob2qt2: why don't you just post the url and aks your question?03:26
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jasoncohenimcsk8, this is a shot in the dark but do you get the same problem with OO2?03:26
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Cooner750I spent all day partitioning a HD and then I get this. A kernal panic...03:27
bob2you're more likely to get an answer if you ask on the list now03:28
bob2rather than in a week when you're a broke nshell of a human being03:28
Cooner750bbs03:28
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Computer__Guruwhat's the name of the x-based sys-v init.d editor?03:29
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DAC1138x based? init.d editor? afaik, init.d can be edited with any text editor03:30
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Computer__Guruit's called ksysv03:30
Computer__Guru:)03:30
meuserjI've been playing with breezy, and I'm having some X issues...03:30
bob2no, you don't use a text editor for that03:30
vladuz976ubotu: parsing error?03:30
ubotuvladuz976: I don't know03:30
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DAC1138meuserj, thats why its still in beta03:30
Computer__Guruyou make symlinks03:30
vladuz976i  know03:31
gigaclonI installed the realplayer on universe and it won't run03:31
DaveyIf I install the kubuntu meta-package, will it replace GDM too?03:31
gigaclonit just sticks in the process list03:31
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kutucapemeuserj, X still broken in breezy03:32
Computer__Guruksysv is nice :)03:32
vladuz976ubotu: green=red03:32
ubotuI don't know, vladuz97603:32
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meuserjkutucape: it seems to be.. I had it running fine on a vmware virtual machine, but when I install it on a REAL machine, I get X problems....03:33
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rekaComputer__Guru: rcconf?03:33
vladuz976reka: i am smoking crack03:33
kinusim having some problems with ubuntu, if i start up my machine without the network cabe plugged in it doesnt resolve the localhost...anyway around this?03:33
Computer__Gurureka: ksysv03:33
kutucapemeuserj, yes, i can't run gdm, so i started X via startx03:34
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bob2kinus: paste your /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/hosts to #flood03:34
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kutucapebut so far so good after hacking around03:34
meuserjxfont issues.. and reinstalling xfont-base gives me errors about mkfontdir not existing, which doesn't seem to exist anywhere.03:34
kinusk, bob2...2 secs03:34
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bob2meuserj: lots of X things in breezy are broken at the moment03:35
meuserjkutucape: I'm using console apps for now.. irssi03:35
bob2just put things on hold and sit it out03:35
Computer__Guruwhat is acpid?03:35
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Computer__Gurudbus-1?03:35
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: You awake?03:35
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gigaclonany reason why realplayer from the universe repository won't run after I installed it03:35
HrdwrBoBcafuego: yo03:35
Computer__Guruwhat is all this crap doing in my init system03:35
bob2Computer__Guru: it manages ACPI events03:35
Madpilothi all03:36
bob2Computer__Guru: if you don't know what it does, leave it alone03:36
HrdwrBoBcafuego: vaguely, I have a terrible headcold03:36
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: You reckon vicnet might be interested in mirroring 2 500Mb livecd isos?03:36
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: <heh>03:36
rekagigaclon: you running it through terminal or from menu?03:36
kutucapehi Madpilot03:36
gigaclonmenu03:36
Computer__Gurui dont believe in that... my debian install didnt have all this crap03:36
rekaHrdwrBoB: you're in melbourne aren't you?03:36
gigaclonit just sticks in the process list03:36
HrdwrBoBreka: correct03:36
reka:)03:36
HrdwrBoBcafuego: heh, I'll see, we're currently renegotiating out link03:37
rekanot surprising that you're ill then03:37
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bob2Computer__Guru: and if you installed sarge, you'd have most of it03:37
gigaclonsame thing happens with the terminal03:37
HrdwrBoBreka: why's that?03:37
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cafuegoHrdwrBoB: It's 2 isos for a new distro aimed at schools, being developed by Open Source Victoria. LAMP LiveCD.03:37
gigaclonit just hangs there with no output at all,03:37
bob2Computer__Guru: anyway, if you don't know wwhat they are, you shouldn't be disabling them.  they all have documentation, if only in the form of their package description.03:37
Computer__Gurui was running sid and i had like apache, mysqld, and kdm03:38
IIIEarsLAMP - live? - cool03:38
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HrdwrBoBcafuego: oh, well that's not too bad03:38
jcarrd'oh... is there a freenode channel about job hunting?03:38
HrdwrBoBcafuego: we could probably do that03:38
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bob2Computer__Guru: you had a lot more than that if your system was useful03:38
abarbacciahey- are there packages for madwifi in ubuntu?03:38
cafuegoIIIEars: yeah. Insert cd, boot, be asked to wipe HDD< have cd create accounts for students, with vservers.03:38
IIIEarsmkisof would make an uncrackable webserver no?03:38
zenlunaticjcarr: i doubt it03:38
DAC1138cafuego, arent there already like 10 distros aimed at schools?03:38
jcarrlol.. damn03:38
Computer__Guruit ran ;)03:38
DAC1138cafuego, like college linux?03:38
bob2abarbaccia: the ubuntu kernels include the madwifie drivers already03:38
DAC1138cafuego, and puppy linux for the lower educated schools03:38
cafuegoDAC1138: No idea, I just try to arrange hosting for it <heh>03:38
zenlunaticDAC1138: i don't see what defines a "school" distro?03:38
DAC1138zenlunatic, pc/mac compatibility easily or out of the box03:39
cafuegozenlunatic: It needs to be able to be used/admined by IT teachers.03:39
DAC1138zenlunatic, something meant to run on older hardware, like slackware03:39
DAC1138zenlunatic, lots of things03:39
IIIEars"lower educated" skoolz?03:39
Computer__Gurubut i'll give yout he benefit of the doubt, and leave everything there except cupsys and gdm03:39
abarbacciabob2, i got a dlink card that uses the atheros chipset - but it didnt recognise it - do i gottta tell it to load the modules?03:39
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DAC1138IIIEars, like elemantary or middle school03:39
DAC1138man, does everyone need an english class again?03:39
Computer__Guruand ill add apache, mysql, and ssh03:39
IIIEarsAh - just being silly. - wide grin03:39
bob2abarbaccia: perhaps it's a dodgy one that needs the acx driver03:39
meuserjComputer__Guru: why remove cupsys and gdm?  is this not a desktop system?03:40
abarbacciabob2, im reading a lot of posts that just say madwifi03:40
bob2abarbaccia: those people are confused then03:40
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Computer__Gurumeuserj: i dont have a printer, and i dont use gdm to manage my xsession03:40
ray_what happened to java in the repos?03:40
bob2and probably won't be of much help to you, unfortunately03:40
cafuegocrap, where did my vim terminal go?03:40
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gigaclonGRR03:41
IIIEarsvim vim-oosed?03:41
gigaclonwhy is realplayer a piece of shit03:41
gigacloni never had this much trouble in windows03:41
bob2Real has always been terrible03:41
bob2just use mplayer03:41
rekagigaclon: run it in terminal and see if it outputs any errors03:42
gigaclonno errors03:42
meuserjRealPlayer is utter crap03:42
hybrid_gothmeuserj i agree03:42
gigaclon/usr/bin/realplay: line 81:  8526 Killed                  $REALPLAYBIN "$@"03:42
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gigaclonyeah mplayer isn't working either with this .ram file I got03:43
meuserjstupid proprietary codecs....03:43
hybrid_gothmeuserj try helix03:43
abarbacciabob2, i loaded the drivers and am rebooting (compiled them) wish me luck!03:43
Madpilotthere are lots of other music players in Ubuntu...03:43
DAC1138am i the only one who likes realplayer?03:43
DAC1138mplayer never works for me03:44
gigacloncan you get it to run?03:44
DAC1138even with all those codecs installed03:44
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DAC1138gigaclon, yeah, its running fine here03:44
IIIEarsDAC1138 - hm - how to be diplomatic about this. YES!03:44
gigaclonDAC1138 http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=203:44
gigacloncan you hear that03:44
DAC1138IIIEars, because you guys wouldnt know good software if it tore out your eyes03:44
gigaclonclick listen03:45
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DAC1138gigaclon, no, because im not on the ubuntu machine, im on mandrake 1003:45
IIIEarsheh - .ram format - yep sounds good let's reinvent the wheel.03:45
DAC1138my ubuntu machine is being restored03:45
kinus_bob2: i was disconnected, will paste in #flood now03:45
Madpilotcool, they're really going to beam Scotty up: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4702503.stm03:45
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hanasakianyone use mono? get monodevleop to run on ubuntu?03:45
bob2hanasaki: it runs fine on hoary03:46
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Madpilothanasaki: I run it to run Muine in Hoary03:46
DAC1138IIIEars, the same could be said for any video format03:46
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hanasakibob2:  i am gettgn an exception when i monodevelolpe.  can i paste it ot you in flood?03:46
hanasakiMadpilot: what si muine?03:46
bob2hanasaki: ok...03:46
meuserjhanasaki: it works fine if you are 32bit, but AMD64 mono is broken.. at least it was last time I tried.03:46
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gigacloncan anyone get the stream on that page to work03:47
IIIEarsDAC1138, - true enough - .ram was better when most used slower dial up connections03:47
Madpilothanasaki: a music player. similar to Rythymbox03:47
hanasaki32bit here... i am on a barton amd03:47
j_fletcherhow do i get the "Weather and Theme sensors" ? I used apt-get to install gdesklets-data with which the themes came, but they're still missing or not working...03:47
Madpilotexcept I can't get rythymbox to run right...03:47
DAC1138IIIEars, its better than .wmv, ill say that03:47
bob2I wish people would stop saying "32-bit" when they mean "i386"03:47
gigaclonhttp://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=203:47
hanasakithanks Madpilot03:47
hanasakimono is c# only right?03:48
IIIEarsDAC1138, - geez - did you want to put in the place of defending microsoft? - Arrrgh03:48
robert_pectolgigaclon:   I just tried... doesn't seem to be streaming at the moment.03:48
DAC1138IIIEars, will i get killed for defending them?03:48
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhos defending microsoft? O_O03:49
DAC1138IIIEars, last time i checked, US citizens were allowed to have their own opinions03:49
DAC1138ChurcH_of_FoamY, oh god, someone says microsoft and you guys flip out03:49
hanasakibob2:  ready in flood?03:49
IIIEarsnah - but your linux communtiy member card will be folded, spindled, and mutilated - lol03:49
bob2of course03:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes and opinions are like a$$holes every one has one :p03:49
DAC1138ChurcH_of_FoamY, i said "IIIEars, its better than .wmv, ill say that" refering to .ram being better than .wmv03:49
meuserjDAC1138: dude, chill03:50
hybrid_gothIIIEars heh03:50
Computer__GuruDAC1138: we're allowed to have our own opinion, so long as it doesnt go against the ambitions of our leaders03:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm just playing around lol03:50
bob2hanasaki: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list03:50
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gigaclonlol at Computer__Guru03:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYyou know i have used windows before and i have never worked with a .ram file what is it?03:50
gigaclonreal audio03:51
meuserjChurcH_of_FoamY: real media03:51
Computer__Guruyou think speech is free? walk out your front door and yell that you think someone really should killt he president03:51
Madpilotwhat's that lovely quote? "Everyone is entitled to my opinion." Yeah, that's it...03:51
Computer__Gurusee how long you stay free03:51
IIIEars.Real Audio Media file03:51
DAC1138ChurcH_of_FoamY, .ram is realplayer, nothing windows specific. its a video format used for streaming video/audio content on the web03:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh i'm shure linux will find a way to play that in the future03:51
hanasakidone03:51
DAC1138ChurcH_of_FoamY, you're a little behind, it already can03:51
MadpilotChurcH_of_FoamY: it can already, w/ the right non-Free codecs03:51
gigacloni can't get it to work03:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh no kidding wow03:52
DAC1138gigaclon, try helix player03:52
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea i am a little bit behind heh03:52
IIIEarsIt was innovative because dial-up users got decent sound with it.03:52
abarbacciaanybody know why ndiswrapper crashes when you go to modprobe it?03:52
gigacloni downloaded w32codec and mplayer and realplayer and helix player and streamplayer03:52
gigaclontry that it won't run it03:52
bob2abarbaccia: are you using a default kernel?03:52
DAC1138gigaclon, thats linux multimedia for you03:52
meuserjgigaclon: get realplayer10, it's on the same site as helix player...03:52
meuserjgigaclon: helix player and realplayer10 are the same thing, but realplayer10 includes the proprietary codecs.03:53
ChurcH_of_FoamYi used to like realplayer untill it started spying on me >.<03:53
gigacloncept, meuserj it freezes every time i try to play somthing03:53
abarbacciabob2, yea - the whole system haults when i go to modprobe it - very odd03:53
bob2god that's a stupid site03:53
hanasakibob2:  any thoughts on my mono?03:53
bob2I'd expect better from npr03:53
bob2hanasaki: don't use backports03:53
abarbacciabob2, i think im going to upgrade the kernel to a different one and see what i get03:53
bob2hanasaki: go see if all your mono stuff is from ubuntu or not03:53
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ChurcH_of_FoamYum whats modprobe?03:54
MadpilotChurcH_of_FoamY: Real on Win was a much better-behaved app after you locked it behind a ZoneAlarm firewall...03:54
hanasakibob2:  used backports to get the gaim 1.3.103:54
hanasakibob2:  how do i do that check?03:54
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bob2hanasaki: by hand, I'd assume03:54
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes thats true but it's sad that it has to be done like that03:54
rekagigaclon: is it possible it's a sound issue?03:54
bob2or use apt-cache policy03:54
bob2gigaclon: works fine for me03:55
hanasakibob2:  apt-show-version on the installed package?03:55
bob2gigaclon: with gxine03:55
bob2hanasaki: yeah03:55
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IIIEarslol - is there a cross platform "bonsai buddy"?03:55
hanasakimono-assemblies-base/unknown uptodate 1.1.7-0ubuntu4~5.04ubp103:55
hanasaki   unknown?03:55
MadpilotChurcH_of_FoamY: RealAlternative was (slightly) illegal but great for Windows03:55
bob2gigaclon: they're talking about how sexy ankles were in the early 20th centry03:55
bob2hanasaki: there you go03:56
eathandcan i ask a question?03:56
Computer__Gurulike since i dont use pppoe or any other kind of dialup technology, can i get rid of ppp?03:56
bob2hanasaki: complain to the backports people, I guess03:56
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cw2IIIEars: yeah, you start it with "rm -Rf /*"03:56
ChurcH_of_FoamYyou know i don't care if it was or wasen't but it did work pritty well03:56
bob2eathand: of course...03:56
hanasakiah03:56
eathandthanks bob203:56
hanasakiand just use any mono from hoary nonbakcports?03:56
hanasakieathand?03:56
bob2hanasaki: from ubuntu, yes03:56
eathandlovin ubuntu, where to find info on installing packages03:56
eathandeathand = long story03:56
eathandubuntu yes03:57
Madpiloteathand: Synaptic03:57
bob2eathand: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto03:57
eathandthanks, want to install open office beta 1.9, can I?03:57
gigaclonit could be03:57
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gigaclongxine?03:57
DiscipulusWhat up peeps?03:58
Wckdkl0wnis it possible to view a webcam in yahoo with gaim?03:58
bob2eathand: in hoary, yes03:58
bob2gigaclon: indeed03:58
eathandgreat, thanks03:58
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhat about with msn messenger ?03:58
eathandhows bout Nvu?03:58
bob2eathand: not in ubuntu03:58
hanasakibob2:  backports is evil?03:58
hanasakiever had a need for it yourself?03:58
bob2hanasaki: no, theyre just sometimes crap03:59
bob2nope03:59
gigaclonreka how would know if it was a sound issue03:59
eathandthanks again, any recs for a decent wysiwyg editor for ubuntu?03:59
hanasakisomehow  i couldnt get the gaim 1.3.1 /wo it before03:59
bob2hanasaki: sure, 1.3.1 isn't in haory03:59
hanasakiah.04:00
bob2and never will be04:00
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Computer__Gurubob2: i dont use dialup, do i need the ppp init script started at every runlevel?04:00
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Madpiloteathand: it's not WYSIWYG, but I really like Screem for HTML work.04:00
bob2only you can answer that04:00
bob2probably not04:00
eathandthanks mp04:01
rekagigaclon: e.g. xmms/bmp usually freezes when playing an mp3 file if the output plugin is not set to esound or alsa04:01
eathandwill work in ubuntu?04:01
bob2Computer__Guru: actually, leave it alone04:01
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rekagigaclon: thought it might be something similar04:01
Computer__Guruugh04:01
Computer__Guruallt hese processes04:01
Computer__Guruheh04:01
bob2Computer__Guru: dude04:01
jurgonhsince i have changed from Windows to Linux my DVD-drive is muuuuch slooover... why? what can i do about it?04:01
bob2you're out of your depth, it seems04:01
Computer__Guruwhats it doin?04:01
bob2read the top 10 lines of the ppp init script04:01
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nmorseAnyone in here know why one might get a 'Permission denied' error using 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'?04:01
nmorseDon't leave, Church!04:02
hanasakibob thanks.. mon is running04:02
bob2it doesn't do anything04:02
gigaclonbob2: YOU ARE A GODSEND!!!!!04:02
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Computer__Gurui see04:02
Madpilot!dma04:02
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DAC1138eathand, wysiwyg html editors?04:03
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Madpilothmmm... is ubotu responding to all msgs by private chat now?04:03
DAC1138eathand, try nvu.com or like he said, screem is good, so is quanta04:03
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bob2hanaGone: yo ushould drop them a line saying that their packages don't work04:03
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Madpiloteathand: there's also Bluefish, but it's also a handcoding editor, not wizzy04:03
Madpilot!html04:04
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Computer__Gurubrb04:04
eathandi'm old, lazy and new to linux, lookin for wysiwyg04:04
eathandused nvu in win and like it.04:04
gigaclonwysiwyg what?04:05
Madpiloteathand: I think there are .deb files for nvu04:05
zenlunaticeathand: editor for what?04:05
eathandhtml04:05
jurgonhsince i have changed from Windows to Linux my DVD-drive is muuuuch slooover... why? what can i do about it?04:05
bimberieathand: if you must have it, nvu is available in (the evil) backports04:05
nmorseI thought my friend was lying when he said his wireless questions were ignored on here04:05
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nmorseSo much for the friendly support community04:05
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zenlunaticnmorse: no one owes you anything04:05
bob2nmorse: please don't be so silly04:05
cw2jurgonh: enable dma using the hdparm tool04:05
Madpilotubotu tell jurgonh about dma04:05
rekajurgonh: enabled DMA?04:05
GinsuAnyone: newbie question--- what does "~/" refer to?  Is it the home directory?04:06
gigaclonwireless is the single biggest issue in Linux period04:06
bob2nmorse: shockingly, nto every question can be simply answered on irc04:06
kevinAmaranth: was it you who lost the wireless when getting the mouse pad working?04:06
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nmorseOf course no one owes me anything04:06
bob2nmorse: do you want all 404 people to say "Sorry, don't know?"04:06
jcarrnmorse, eh!? Ubuntu probably has the friendliest community you'll find...04:06
zenlunaticGinsu: thats the root, the highest part of the disk heirarchy04:06
rekanmorse: not true ... just that the wireless 'experts' might not be active atm04:06
bimberiGinsu: yes04:06
cw2nmorse: just cause we don't know doesn't mean we aren't friendly04:06
jcarrnmorse, you want a rude community? Go try #linux on undernet04:06
bob2nmorse: asking on the list is a way better idea04:06
GinsuThanks04:06
zenlunaticnmorse: go try the BSD community you'll come back crying04:06
jcarrzenlunatic, lol04:06
nmorseI've been hanging out in #kubuntu for a couple months answering questions and I've never seen a day like this04:06
gigaclonjcarr, I agree04:06
DAC1138nmorse, you know, we answer a lot of questions, it gets tiring seeing the same question that cant be answered04:06
cw2nmorse: someone could have said "well obviouly you just have the rights"04:07
bob2#kubuntu is far less active than here04:07
wm_eddie:( Breezy needs to get X working again.  I need to test out how the newer stuff works on my laptop.04:07
nmorseAnd, ##freebsd is a very helpful channel04:07
zenlunaticnmorse: what is your question anyway?04:07
zenlunaticnmorse: good for ##freebsd04:07
DAC1138zenlunatic, oh yes, BSD. i got devoiced and booted form #freebsd for proving a guy wrong. turns out he was an op and didnt like it04:07
zenlunaticDAC1138: heh04:07
nmorseWhy would 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' give a permission error?04:07
MadpilotDAC1138: heh... that was subtle on the ops part...04:07
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Cooner750back04:08
gigaclonnmorse, look at the ubuntu forums, every second question was about wireless04:08
bob2a "permission error" is kinda vague, you'd be better telling us the actual error04:08
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nmorseFATAL: Permission denied04:08
nmorseNot a hard error to mistake04:08
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bob2awesome, thanks04:08
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DAC1138Madpilot, yeah. i proved the guy wrong, ge gets ops, and devoices me. i leave, some back, i have my voice, i ask a few more questions, they devoice me because they didnt want me in there i guess, so i left. the did a /whois, followed me around the different freenode channels i was in and harassed me04:09
Cooner750Could someone explain what04:09
Cooner750oops04:09
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neighborleebeen a bit since i've been in linux and it  seems synatpic update client is confused as it is reccommending I do dist-upgrade to iron out dependencies..i'm using breezy  so while expected such things im wondering if I should just bail at this point and reinstall ? ;-))04:09
BeefTubeanyone know when ubuntu or Debian will get blender 2.37a in the apt repository? TIA :D04:09
MadpilotDAC1138: that's pathetic. remind me not to bother ever using freeBSD... ;)04:09
Cooner750Could someone explain what "Kernal Panic - Not Syncing: Attempted to Kill init" means? (seems like a real descriptive error... :-/. )04:10
bob2BeefTube: is it in breezy?04:10
qt2...is there a way to extrazt .7z files in linux?04:10
DAC1138Madpilot, yeah, thats when i gave up on BSD. i didnt even download an ISO04:10
neighborleeBeefTube, might need to write maintainer I guess or just download from blender3d.org04:10
BeefTubedont think so04:10
bob2Cooner750: that's not the error, that was the previous line04:10
bob2qt2: yes, get 7zip04:10
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bob2neighborlee: lots of things are uninstallable, just wait for a while ( = days)04:10
DAC1138Madpilot, that was a bad example to set for the BSD community04:10
BeefTubeyea, I am 64bit, i need APT version... chroot is too complex for me 8)04:10
abarbacciahey all - bob2 im still having trouble loading ndiswrapper04:10
bob2awesome04:10
nmorseSo much for the 'could you reask the question and we'll provide a response' idea04:11
DAC1138neighborlee, why are you using breezy?04:11
Madpilotwill the Linspire/Debian version of nvu run in Hoary?04:11
bob2nmorse: good god,shut up04:11
DAC1138neighborlee, anything it provides over the stable hoary?04:11
neighborlee bob2: yes as I suspected..I just can't  stay out oflinux that long and the OS seems rather iffy at best ( Again I expected such things)..are we talking DAYS or just a few days do you know...04:11
bob2I'm reading the damn kernel source for you04:11
neighborleeDAC1138, DUDE ;))heh04:11
BeefTube<Madpilot> yes :)04:11
DAC1138Madpilot, yeah, im using that version04:11
bob2nmorse: stop whinging04:11
bob2Madpilot: probably not04:11
neighborleeDAC1138, well no.I waS enticed to help out with new release (reports) and I was curious about the new features anyway04:12
Cooner750anyone know what this means: "/sbin/init: 428: Cannot open /dev/console: No Such File"04:12
bob2neighborlee: "iffy at best"? you mean breezy? yes, it's under heavy development.04:12
DAC1138neighborlee, ah. what new features?04:12
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Cooner750and whatever this is04:12
MadpilotDAC1138: thnx. might have to see what the fuss is about. always been an HTML/CSS/PHP handcoder, never tried any of the wizzy editors04:12
Cooner750"pivot_root: No such file or directory"04:12
neighborleebob2: yup I realized...np04:12
bob2Cooner750: that means /dev isn't mounted properly for some reason04:12
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bob2Cooner750: it never booted prpoerly?04:12
Cooner750nope. I had just got done installing it and booted it. And it done that the first time04:13
TokenBadin xchat is there a way to auto receive files?04:13
DAC1138Madpilot, yeah, its not a .deb or anything, its a prebuilt binary. it runs perfectly on here04:13
neighborleeDAC1138, frankly now I dont recall but I know there are several...if I recall ? one of them is slightly more refined booting (faSter ?>)04:13
Cooner750and everytime04:13
bob2Cooner750: so you never made it to the second stage of the installer?04:13
IIIEarsHelp for the slow DVD drive. - especially with nforce2 chipsets  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=263840#post26384004:13
Cooner750bob2: no04:13
DAC1138neighborlee, lol. im sold when people say faster booting04:13
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DAC1138neighborlee, when suse popped out 9.0, they said it boots 2 times faster. i ran online, bought my personal edition (not pro) and get it, and it turns out, it was fasle advertising04:14
neighborleeDAC1138, well make sure to verify  ..im not 100% sure thats one of the improvements but it seemed like it was...( that is from memory)04:14
DAC1138neighborlee, the 2 times faster boot was only for pro, which they didnt say on their website or amazon.com04:14
neighborleeDAC1138, I migbht be thinking of hoary I dunno..04:14
DAC1138neighborlee, hoary i konw boots really fast04:14
neighborleeyup04:14
hybrid_gothcould someone give me insight on ubuntu light?04:14
bob2hybrid_goth: talk to the guy working on it, it's not official related to ubuntu04:15
neighborleeDAC1138, good ole suse...suse pro 9.3 I hear is kewl but I never did like their IRC channel much..04:15
BeefTube<hybrid_goth> it is Ubuntu only lighter... I am not quite sure04:15
neighborleeDAC1138, plus i've grown to really like apt it seems <G>04:15
DAC1138neighborlee, their irc help is okay, ive gotten problems solved there04:15
DAC1138neighborlee, thats whats keeping me away from suse, the apt system04:15
neighborleeyeah same here..I had other issues04:15
neighborleeDAC1138, heh yeah04:16
DAC1138neighborlee, but otherwise, suse is a very good distro. i still recommend ubuntu though to the n00bs04:16
BeefTube<DAC1138> you can get APT from SUSE also I think..04:16
neighborleeDAC1138, I think apt is invading the known linux universe .harhar04:16
DAC1138BeefTube, you can, but i could never get it setup04:16
SDFH_Linux what is now called windows longhorn is going to be called windows vista04:16
neighborleeBeefTube, yes. apt4rpm\04:16
BeefTubeneat :)04:16
DAC1138BeefTube, there's also RPM repositories, which acts like apt-get, which never worked too well04:16
neighborleeSDFH_Linux, gez can't they make up their minds ?lol04:16
SDFH_Linuxthats it04:17
bob2nmorse: what does 'grep root /etc/passwd' print?04:17
Madpiloti've always called it "Windows 2010", figure that's when it'll actually make it out... :)04:17
BeefTubeI use Ubuntu and kanotix... verry nice with APT04:17
DAC1138neighborlee, its apt now, but i have a feeling emerge will catch on04:17
jurgonhI get this error message when i try to enable DMA on my DVD-rom:  sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda04:17
jurgonh/dev/hda:04:17
jurgonh setting using_dma to 1 (on)04:17
jurgonh HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted04:17
jurgonh using_dma    =  0 (off)04:17
bob2jurgonh: please read the topic, and do not paste things here again04:17
neighborleeBeefTube, faik ubuntu is much closer to debian which is always a good thing for dependency handling <wink> ..faik anyway04:18
jurgonhok.. sry04:18
bob2nmorse: and 'dmesg | tail -n10' to #flood04:18
DAC1138hey, who was asking about realplayer?04:18
cw2jurgonh: pay atention man, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=26384004:18
BeefTubeyea, kanotix it debian based also.... in a pinch I can just use DEB :)04:18
neighborleeDAC1138, dunno i've seen far too many emerge complaints but long as it improves...04:18
DAC1138i found out whats wrong. mine was working because i had just run "killall esd" thats why my realplayer was working04:18
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nmorsehang on bob2, I'm trying something else right now04:19
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DAC1138neighborlee, apt wasnt perfect when it first started, neither is emerge, but as it gets older, it will become more refined and faster, and improve as apt did04:19
airmikeyanyone here have the ,dell 6000d laptop ?04:19
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neighborleethose trying blender first time or pros alike should consider going to #blender as alot of good help can be had there( and nice people like in #ubuntu) ...just a eensy FYI to those using it ;-))))04:20
DAC1138IIIEars, do you remember who was asking about realplayer not working?04:20
rekagigaclon iirc04:20
DAC1138neighborlee, yeah, i havent helped in blender in a while, been busy on that project04:20
zenlunaticneighborlee: heh thanks for the FYI04:20
neighborleeanytime  ;0004:20
DAC1138neighborlee, im there, but im idle, lol. i help ocassionally when i see someone04:20
neighborleeDAC1138, :)04:20
kevinIIEars: I got a faster laptop today, yahoooooooo I am getting better with setting this wireless stuff up lol04:21
neighborleeDAC1138, yup you have been very helpful04:21
wm_eddieDoes anybody know if bad things will happen to my laptop if I use kernel 2.6.12.3?04:21
kevinIIIEars: I got a faster laptop today, yahoooooooo I am getting better with setting this wireless stuff up lol04:21
kevinsorry for the mane mistake04:21
kevinname^^04:22
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bob2wm_eddie: it won't work as well, if you're compiling it yourself04:22
naliothevenin y'all04:22
wm_eddiebob2: Yeah, well sound and suspend are very important.04:22
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wm_eddiedoes hoary's udev work with 2.6.12?04:23
bob2probably not04:23
bob2nor will your wireless, most likely04:23
fuocoi'm trying to install ubuntu on a retarded machine, 32Mb ram. when i go to expert and run a shell i can't seem to have /dev/hd* for my hard-disk. anyone knows what can i do to get that ?04:23
IIIEarsDAC1138 - real player freezes? - gigaclon - needed to search the log sorry about being slow04:23
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wm_eddiedamn.  I wish I could try breezy out....04:23
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DAC1138IIIEars, i forgot to enable logging04:24
DAC1138IIIEars, got it enabled now04:24
bob2wm_eddie: why do you want 2.6.12?04:24
DAC1138gigaclon, got the realplayer problem. try "killall esd" and run realplayer04:24
_simplehmm, i need help i get "fatal error [-618] : couldn't open xpistub library" when trying to use firefox 1.0.6 installer04:24
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bob2sounds like the tarball was broken04:25
_simplek04:26
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wm_eddiebob2: from what I can tell, sound on the Sharp MM20 works with kernel 2.6.904:26
wm_eddie2.6.10 broke it.04:26
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wm_eddiesecond I need to get swsuspend204:26
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bob2why "need"?04:27
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gigaclongxine works04:27
goodmanhow can i get the gnome wireless applet?04:27
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abarbacciahow do you check signal strengths with a wireless card?04:28
abarbaccia(i got mine working) bob2 ndiswrapper was the way to go, and i had to remove all other modules and compile...odd but whatever04:28
wm_eddiebob2: because suspend doesn't work.04:28
bob2goodman: install netapplet04:29
bob2abarbaccia: with iwconfig04:29
bob2ouch04:29
goodmanbob2: is that the gnome applet?04:29
bob2wm_eddie: doesn't work?04:29
bob2goodman: indeed04:29
goodmanbob2: thanks a lot04:29
wm_eddiebob2: The laptop suspends but it doesn't wake up in a usable state.04:30
abarbacciabob2, iwconfig doesnt list the strength of the signals around me04:30
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teferiabarbaccia: the answer is, unfortunately, that there current is no universal way of doing so04:30
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kevinOMG do I love having a faster laptop lol, things go much quicker than it does on a p1 233 lol04:30
teferithe meaning of the signal strength that iwconfig shows you varies wildly by driver04:30
kdoggydoes anybody know how the heck to install codecs for totem on a fresh install of hoary?04:30
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abarbacciateferi, this sucks04:31
Burgundaviakdoggy, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:31
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Burgundaviakdoggy, you need totem-xine and w32codecs04:31
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goodmanbob2: should it be in the add to panel list immediately?04:31
teferiabarbaccia: yes04:31
teferiabarbaccia: yes it does04:31
Computer__Guruthere04:32
Computer__Gurusysv audit complete04:32
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kdoggyi downloaded the w32codecs, but i have no idea where things are supposed to go or if i need to force totem to recognize them. I've placed the codecs in /usr/local/lib/codecs.04:32
DrKayBeekdoggy did you run gst-register-0.8?04:32
Computer__Gurukdoggy: you need to rebuild totem to recognize them, i would imagine04:32
bob2wm_eddie: have you filed a bug?04:32
Computer__Guruor maybe not04:32
Computer__Guruyou have to recompile mplayer to see the w32 codecs04:33
bob2kdoggy: no, /usr/lib/win32 is the place to put them04:33
wm_eddieI'm waiting till breezy's X works then I'll file bugs there04:33
bob2abarbaccia: some drivers don't support that04:33
nickrudkdoggy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo tells you how to add your codect to totem-xine04:33
Computer__Gurubob2: dont you need to recompile mplayer in order to get w32codecs?04:33
nickrud*codecs04:33
DrKayBeeanyone have any experience with the HAS and dbus stuff in Hoary?04:33
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kdoggythanks for the guidance. does anybody know of a link to recompile totem? I'll check the ones you have posted so far.04:34
DrKayBeeHAL and dbus04:34
bob2Computer__Guru: no idea04:34
kdoggyi will try it, nickrud.04:34
bob2DrKayBee: best to just ask your question04:34
bob2recompiling totem is massive, massive oevrkill04:34
nickrudkdoggy, thats how I do it, so I can stay out of backports04:34
DrKayBeeI'm playing CS:Czero w/ Cedega. CZERO disc gets automounted but not recognized by czero04:35
DAC1138gigaclon, but just in case other programs dont work (like audacity or other audio related programs) it probably going to be the killall esd problem04:35
DrKayBeethe disc can be browsed properly...04:36
DrKayBeerestarting dbus doesn't help04:36
DAC1138DragonFly, does CS work in full screen in cedega?04:36
DAC1138arrg, DrKayBee read the DragonFly response i wrote04:36
DrKayBeeyes - it does when it works04:36
DAC1138DrKayBee, i can only get deus ex and other games to play in their "safe mode" in a window04:37
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DrKayBeehmm.. I only have CD04:37
DrKayBeeCS04:37
fuocohow can i make a rescue floppy with fdisk from windows ?04:38
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thespiritoftalhi04:38
DrKayBeeI find the HAL system unreliable at best. Also, putting the disc in an external drive leads to some copy protection error04:38
thespiritoftalhow can i install java to ubuntu?04:38
Burgundaviathespiritoftal, wiki.ubuntu.com/Java04:39
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kevinHave a question, how do I set evolution to use gmail?04:40
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thespiritoftalThis page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates04:40
Daveywill this (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002ER5B6/104-5284955-4071144?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance) work in Ubuntu?04:40
thespiritoftalthe page doesn't exist Burgundavia04:40
naliothkevin: gmail has a walkthrough on your preference page on the web04:40
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thespiritoftaloh I typed it wrong sorry04:40
SDFH_Linuxhttp://bink.nu/Home.bink04:40
nalioth!java04:40
ubotujava is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.04:40
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Computer__Guruwhen attempting a 'fakeroot debian/rules binary' from the mplayer-586 source tarball, it builds the .deb files WAY too quickly... it's not compiling them, and the resulting packages contain no actual binaryes, just directories.. anybody know why this is?04:41
Computer__Gurubinaries04:41
psychonateFor some reason Firefox keeps asking me if I want to open WMVs in Totem, which is apparently the default application for WMVs. However, always tell it to open these files in mplayer and mark "Do this automatically for files like this from now on."04:41
Sponge_I'm trying to compile tlip and I get the following error:04:42
Sponge_tilp_calcs.c: In function `tilp_calc_rom_dump':04:42
Sponge_tilp_calcs.c:301: error: `ROM_SE' undeclared (first use in this function)04:42
Sponge_tilp_calcs.c:301: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once04:42
Sponge_tilp_calcs.c:301: error: for each function it appears in.)04:42
Sponge_is the source damaged?04:42
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psychonateGo figure, when I find another WMV, it asks me if I want to open it in Totem anyway04:42
Sponge_(sorry for the flooding!)04:42
shad0whey guys04:42
MrGardenHoseMananyone know the command to check your hd stats?04:42
kevinnalioth: ty04:42
shad0wdoes anyone know any good mail server+webmail that works good on ubuntu?04:42
psychonateIs there any way I can *REALLY* make mplayer the default app? I don't even know why Totem is the default.04:42
rekapsychonate: try this: right click on a wmv file in nautilus, properties > open with.04:42
Sponge_./configure works fine, but "make" doesn't.04:42
psychonateI thought /etc/mailcap defined these things04:42
psychonatereka, I don't use nautilus, and I want to open the file straight from the browser.04:43
Sponge_psychonate: Right click and change the file properties...04:43
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MidNightRaVeN! mount04:43
uboturumour has it, mount is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:43
abarbacciaI have a dlink wireless card and lspci brings up 2 listings: 1) Atheros comm unknown device 2)realtek semi RTL-813904:43
psychonateSponge_, anyway to do this from a terminal?04:43
abarbacciawhich one is the chipset on the card and should i google to get working04:43
Sponge_psychonate, that's a very good question. I'm not that skilled... T-T sorry...04:44
MidNightRaVeNi have a question =/ anyone know how to unmount a drive?04:44
Computer__Guruwhen attempting a 'fakeroot debian/rules binary' from the mplayer-586 source tarball, it builds the .deb files WAY too quickly... it's not compiling them, and the resulting packages contain no actual binaries, just directories.. anybody know why this is?04:44
MidNightRaVeNjust edit the fstab i'm guessing?04:44
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Sponge_MidNightRaven: unmount /dev/"whatever"04:44
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MidNightRaVeNSponge_: kk, thx04:44
Sponge_MidNightRaven: I mean... "umount"04:44
tim__anyone running hula mail server that can give some tips to a newbie?04:44
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MidNightRaVeNSponge_: any specific command so I can get a list of the devs?04:45
Sponge_I need to link my voyage 200 to my ubuntu box!!! --- And I can't do that!! --- T-T the source doesn't like me!04:45
Sponge_MidNightRaveN: You mean, To get the whole list of mounts?04:45
MidNightRaVeNSponge_: yea04:45
shad0wdoes anyone know any good mail server+webmail that works good on ubuntu? :OOOOOOOOOOO04:45
rekapsychonate: looked in edit > prefs > downloads > filteypes section yet?04:45
wm_eddieshad0w: hula?04:46
Sponge_MidNightRaven: Just type "mount" at the command prompt.04:46
psychonatereka, yes I have04:46
MidNightRaVeNSponge_: kk =)04:46
shad0whula :o04:46
wing`is there anyone who can help me sharing my internet connection with another pc (windows xp) ?04:46
Sponge_tlip doesn't like me T-T04:46
Madpilottim__: there's a hula channel here at freenode04:46
pawanhello04:46
pawananyone into translation04:46
ethicsshad0w,  apache and exim?04:47
Computer__Guruwhen attempting a 'fakeroot debian/rules binary' from the mplayer-586 source tarball, it builds the .deb files WAY too quickly... it's not compiling them, and the resulting packages contain no actual binaries, just directories.. anybody know why this is?04:47
Sponge_wing: Have a look to the "iptables" manual.04:47
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Madpilotbbl, everyone04:47
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wing`the problem is that my linux eth0 is using DHCP04:47
Wckdkl0wnis there a repository for glib?04:47
tim__Madpilot, yea. i'd been there, and no one gave me a response until about a minute ago. thanks anyway04:47
wm_eddiesharing an internet connection is too damn hard in Ubuntu.04:47
wing`i already tried lots of iptables scripts04:47
wing`they dont work04:47
Madpilottim__: noticed that with a LOT of the channels. 50+ ppl there, and nobody posting a bleeding thing...04:48
Sponge_wing: So, where is the problem?... hell, I had I tutorial about winxp and linux inet sharing...04:48
Sponge_wing: specially for these cases...04:48
psychonategreat, I ran nautilus in xfce4, and now my root window is messed04:48
rekaMadpilot: IRC = idle record contest04:48
naliothComputer__Guru: have you tried just compiling mplayer from source directly?04:48
wing`i set all to auto in winxp and it doesnt works04:48
wing`thats the problem04:48
wing`and im noob04:48
wing`another problem04:48
Wckdkl0wnis there a repository for glib2.0?04:49
psychonateI can't click on it :(04:49
psychonatewhich is rather essential in xfce04:49
Computer__Gurunalioth: it's the mplayer-586 source package in universe/multiverse.. isnt it better to build a .deb file whenever possible as opposed to compiling and installing yourself?04:49
nickrudpsychonate, run gconf-editor and unset /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop04:49
abarbacciai have my wireless card detected by ubuntu now, but no packets sent or received04:49
abarbacciaany ideas?04:49
ethicsWckdkl0wn, yeah its the normal ones..itll be part of glibSOMETHING04:49
wing`Sponge_, i should use eth0 or ppp004:50
wing`?04:50
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wing`its ADSL but my modem is router04:50
naliothComputer__Guru: try this: "sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer<whatever>" and then "sudo apt-get source -b mplayer<whatever>"04:50
Wckdkl0wnglibc-doc is all it has04:50
ethicspsychonate, why run nautilus in xfce?04:50
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funkyHatwing`, an ethernet router?04:50
rekapsychonate: running nautilus with the --no-desktop option is another alternative iirc04:50
Computer__Guruwell i already built the deps, so ill try the -b04:50
psychonateethics, no one knew how to change the default run action for something without using nautilus04:50
wing`funkyHat, yes04:50
psychonateor if they did, they didn't tell me04:50
funkyHatwing`, you should use eth004:50
ethicspsychonate, ahh i c  kk04:50
wing`thanks04:51
naliothComputer__Guru: i always use this method. i know nothing about debian/rules or whatever04:51
bimberiWckdkl0wn: libglib2.0-0 ?04:51
Sponge_wing': If you have and adsl connection, you gotta use ppp0... and for the lan, eth0.04:51
psychonatenickrud, I changed the option, but it's still messed. Do I need to run nautilus again?04:51
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Computer__Guruhey there we go :D04:51
funkyHatSponge_, he's connected to the modem through the lan04:51
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Wckdkl0wnbimberi, yea thats what i am looking for but all that is in synaptic is glibc-doc04:51
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Sponge_funkyHat: hell, let's see... you're the PPPoE guy? aren't you? :P04:52
Computer__Gurubbiaf, gotta go to store04:52
psychonateI would just kill it, but I don't know what to kill.04:52
Computer__Guruty nalioth04:52
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naliothComputer__Guru: you'll have to dpkg -i mplayer<whatever>.deb when the process ends04:52
bimberi!info libglib2.0-004:52
psychonate'ps -e' doesn't show nautilus as running04:52
ubotulibglib2.0-0: (The GLib library of C routines), section libs, is optional. Version: 2.6.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 428 kB, Installed size: 944 kB04:52
funkyHatSponge_, eh?04:52
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ethicsWckdkl0wn, goto the wiki and grab the adding repositories thread or config synaptic to do more than it alread is04:53
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nickrudpsychonate, there's a daemon you want to have running gnome-settings-daemon, and also, gconfd. Check for them04:53
Sponge_funkyHat: Just joking :P04:53
abarbacciaim gonna bring this card back i think - this sucks so much04:53
funkyHatSponge_, ok :). i got that pretty quick considering it's 4am04:53
nickrudpsychonate, ah, well, if nautilus left crap in it's wake, that's another thing ;)04:53
psychonateargh04:54
psychonateI hate GNOME, nautilus, and nothing related04:54
Sponge_funkyHat: In my lands, It's 22:54... :P04:54
psychonates/nothing/anything04:54
funkyHatheh, well we have the real time here :P04:54
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rekapsychonate: sorry ... did'nt know you were using xfce04:54
psychonateIf I restart X, I'll have to reopen my torrents04:54
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psychonatenot to mention my other apps04:54
Sponge_wing': Sorry, but I really don't know how to help you. I need my magic white paper -- which obviously, I forgot where I placed it!04:55
naliothpsychonate: "gnu screen" + bittorrentdownloadcurses.py04:55
psychonateOnly one problem with that:04:55
Sponge_I'm leaving... I'm hungry... but I'll be back...04:55
Sponge_:P04:55
psychonateI want to be able to change my UL rates on the fly04:55
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psychonateafaik you can't do that with bittorrentdownloadcurses.py04:55
naliothpsychonate: iptables04:55
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psychonateI've never used iptables04:56
psychonateI don't understand why I can't just kill something to fix my damn root window :(04:56
lwrhi04:56
lwri am a fresh man here04:57
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psychonateI guess I have to restart X04:57
psychonatea;lskjfd;asjkljfdajslkjdfka;jsjfdlkjas04:57
kevinyahoooooooooo I got gmail to come to my evolution lol04:57
nickrudhi, lwr have an particular questions about ubuntu?04:57
lwryeah04:57
lwri am a new user of ubuntu04:58
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pbiegajhey guys more ndiswrapper questions04:58
pbiegajI have the card connected to my access point04:58
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TraceHello, does anybody know how to use freenx?04:58
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pbiegajhey guys04:58
pbiegajso my wireless card using ndiswrapper04:59
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pbiegajconnects to my access point04:59
pbiegajbut dhcp doesn't seem to work for my card04:59
pbiegajand setting a static ip doesn't seem to work either04:59
pbiegaj:-(04:59
pbiegajso close yet so far04:59
pbiegajif anyone can help me out I'd be really greatful04:59
lwrthe ubuntu running in my computer is a little slow. why is that? is my hardware's problem?04:59
fortysixand2what happens when you try to set a static IP04:59
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pbiegajI can't ping anything04:59
cw2lwr: what's your hardware04:59
pbiegajeven the gateway04:59
naliothlwr what is your hardware?04:59
lwramd duron 800  128M RAM04:59
pbiegajit says network unreachable05:00
fortysixand2what does "route" tell you pbiegaj?05:00
lwrsdr ram05:00
cw2that's kinda slow, especialy the 129 meg05:00
r0bbyyou know what i funnt05:00
r0bbyfunny*05:00
WebMavenHmm. Firefox from the backpots works, but it seems more resource-hungry, and sluggish.05:00
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Tracepbiegaj, you may try to run mii-tool and have a look05:00
pbiegajfortysixand2, the route table is identical to my route table with my wired connection05:00
r0bbyi had some broken packages w/ apt05:00
cw2lwr: add another 128 meg to ti and it will be noticable faster05:00
r0bbyand all of a sudden05:00
psychonateWTF :(05:00
r0bbythey're gone05:00
psychonateIt still wants to use Totem05:00
pbiegajTrace, what is mii-tool?05:00
r0bbythen again it's breezy so05:00
r0bby*shrug*05:00
Traceit tests whether your netcard is ok. "sudo mii-tool"05:00
zenlunaticwhy on earth would someone use breezy?05:01
psychonatethis is really starting to annoy me05:01
r0bbycuriosity05:01
zenlunaticpsychonate: so05:01
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r0bbyit's actually stable05:01
zenlunaticpsychonate: your point?05:01
WebMavenHas anyone else noticed poorer performance in the Firefox from backports?05:01
fortysixand2there are 2 default gateways, pbiegaj?05:01
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psychonateI don't have to have a point.05:01
zenlunaticpsychonate: so you are spewing pointlessness?05:01
psychonateYes.05:02
r0bbyI use breezy because i wanted to05:02
r0bbyand i wanted the bleeding edge stuff05:02
zenlunatici see very considerate of you to waste other peoples time with your pointlessness05:02
psychonateIs your complaining any more relevant than my comments?05:02
zenlunatichm probably not05:02
psychonateWe'll call it even then.05:02
WebMavenYou know, the shortest distance between to pointlessnesses is a digression.05:02
cw2WebMaven: but isn't a digression pointless too?05:03
pbiegajfortysixand2, yeah there are two entries in the route table05:03
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psychonateI don't understand why FF keeps wanting to open WMVs in Totem.05:03
DAC1138psychonate, thats exactly what i said and it got a little out of hand05:03
WebMavencw2: your point?05:03
ChurcH_of_FoamYi just descoverd that linux isen't that bad for gaming05:03
DAC1138psychonate, the "i dont have to have a point"05:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYi must say that i'm quite impressed05:04
DAC1138ChurcH_of_FoamY, its better than windows05:04
cw2WebMaven: digression :P05:04
fortysixand2i think you can only have 1 default gateway05:04
wing`whats the best download manager for linux?05:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes05:04
psychonateDAC1138, well, when I did have a point, it didn't seem to do me much good either.05:04
DAC1138ChurcH_of_FoamY, like deus ex. it crashes after i install it and play it once.05:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes it is05:04
WebMavencw2: I win!05:04
rekarecommendations for a lightweight DE that will install itself in the Sessions menu? (asking for a relative newbie)05:04
nickrudpsychonate, try downloading a wmv, then using right click properties->open with05:04
DAC1138ChurcH_of_FoamY, linux, it works every time, and it allows me to run the game at full resolution with no slowdowns05:04
cw2ChurcH_of_FoamY: depends on what you call "gaming"05:04
wing`whats the best download manager for linux??05:04
ChurcH_of_FoamYcounter strike05:04
nickruda hack, but it should work05:05
Fuzzy`anyone use wepcrack/airsnort05:05
cw2ChurcH_of_FoamY: with ut99 linux was faster than windows on the same hardware05:05
psychonatenickrud, I have, and I told it to use this app each time. Then, when I select another WMV, it reverts back to the default behavior.05:05
psychonateI have no idea why.05:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea05:05
TraceHello, does anybody know how to use freenx?05:05
WebMavenOnce again, has anyone else noticed poorer performance in the Firefox from backports?05:05
cw2ChurcH_of_FoamY: ut2k it's about the same05:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYi think that uto4 runs pritty good05:05
psychonateI always thought /etc/mailcap was in charge of these things.05:05
DAC1138ut2004 runs better in windows than linux (for me)05:05
WebMavenexcessive memory footprint, sluggish scrolling behaviour, etc.05:05
cw2ChurcH_of_FoamY: it's all a matter of the gaming company using standards05:05
naliothwing`: wait a few minutes tween your same questions, please05:05
admrl_could anyone help me installing a grub bootsplash if you can pm me05:05
naliothwing`: if someone knows, they'll answer05:05
DAC1138on linux i have to run ut2004 in software render mode05:05
nickrudpsychonate, no longer, gnome has it's own mime type recognition and usage05:05
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cw2DAC1138: nvidia or ati?05:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea and porting stuff to linux the lazy bastards >.<05:06
DAC1138cw2, intel. im on a laptop05:06
psychonateYou're kidding me.05:06
psychonateGNOME aims to ruin my life.05:06
cw2ChurcH_of_FoamY: if they use standards it's not that big a deal05:06
psychonateIt's that simple.05:06
cw2DAC1138: is it accelerated?05:06
psychonatenickrud, even so, I'm not using GNOME.05:06
DAC1138cw2, yeah, 100% positive05:06
rekaer, does XFCE add itself to the Sessions menu?05:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYnope i think that there may be to many "flavors" of linux for them at this time05:06
cw2DAC1138: btw: my laptop has nvidia... and rocks05:06
psychonatereka, XFCE4 did for me.05:06
DAC1138cw2, it crashes on startup, i havent tried figuring out the problem05:06
nickrudeh, then, it still looks like firefox is looking to the gnome mime associations05:06
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naliothreka: not sure about xfce, and flux is currently buggered05:07
rekapsychonate: cheers05:07
cw2DAC1138: well, doens't mean it's excellerate well.  ati drivers suck too05:07
DAC1138cw2, im not too big of a gamer, which is why i dont really care about graphics05:07
crimsunnalioth: yes, xfce4 does.05:07
DAC1138cw2, other than ut2004, the latest game i play is deus ex, way back from 200005:07
fortran01ass-kicking xfce rocks!05:07
rekanalioth: i'm asking for a relative newbie ... so the less config, the better05:07
psychonatenickrud, I just changed that in nautilus before it messed up my root window :(05:07
WebMavenChurcH_of_FoamY: Bah, that's like saying there are too many flavors of vanilla ice-cream.05:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYnot really05:07
WebMavenie, french vanilla, vanilla bean, plain vanilla...05:07
DAC1138WebMaven, tell me about it. too many vanilla brands/flavors, lol05:07
ChurcH_of_FoamYif theres to many of one type of os with diffrent ways of working05:07
Razor-XDAC1138: i've plyed UT2k305:07
Razor-Xit's nice, but, I prefer UT meself05:08
Razor-Xs/3/4/05:08
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat poses a problem with the developers trying to port there stuff05:08
DAC1138i havent even played ut2004 in a long time, ive thought about selling it05:08
Razor-XI'm gonna learn Ruby SDL ;)05:08
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DAC1138ill need to reinstall and play it again05:08
psychonateGNOME is the collective effort of all that is evil in the universe :(05:08
WebMavenChurcH_of_FoamY: you need to define 'different ways of working'. Very little is *actually* different.05:08
nickrudpsychonate, I used to use a package, mozplugger, which have better control over mime associations; maybe you can adapt that for xfce & firefox05:08
IIIEarsRazor-X - need a hint no sound in UT99 and after connecting download of maps mods stalls05:09
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwell you think they know that05:09
nickruds/have/has/05:09
Burgundaviapsychonate, you have nothing positive to say, please find somewhere else to say it05:09
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhell i still think that gentoo is diffrent from ubuntu and red hat05:09
psychonateBurgundavia, well, I did just answer a question for someone not 2 minutes ago05:09
knowledge_Can someone explain chmod and ch...uhh....chown05:09
knowledge_?05:09
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Razor-Xpsychonate: hah, true that ;)05:09
ChurcH_of_FoamYi even think that kde is something diffrent than gonme05:09
Razor-Xknowledge_: mind if I PM you?05:09
IIIEarsgentoo is the reason bayer sells aspirin05:09
Razor-Xwith the info, I mean05:10
regeya_whoo!05:10
knowledge_Razor-X, sure05:10
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Razor-XIIIEars: I never needed aspirin05:10
Razor-X;)05:10
regeya_is kde different than gnome?05:10
regeya_zounds.05:10
Razor-Xjust some heavy Motrin05:10
WebMavenChurcH_of_FoamY: Well, if Firefox can run on them all, and it is a non-profit application, a game should be able to as well.05:10
knowledge_regeya, yes05:10
fortran01Mac is different from Ubuntu05:10
ChurcH_of_FoamYWebMaven i agree so why don't they then?05:10
IIIEarsRazor-X - Ubuntu is much nicer. - you are here aren't you?05:10
regeya_I didn't have headaches with gentoo that were any worse than with a fussy ubuntu problem.  it usually took a bit longer to fix the problem on gentoo, though. ;-)05:10
regeya_knowledge_, say it ain't so!05:10
regeya_kde is my favorite window manager!05:11
fortran01xfce is my favorite window manager!05:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYi like gnome cause it's simpler05:11
WebMavenChurcH_of_FoamY: what they are really saying is; We want to release one binary that we can charge per copy, and not have to ever recompile for a diferent distro.05:11
fortran01i like xfce because it is simpler05:11
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i'm not shure what a window manager is so i'll pass on that judgement05:11
Razor-XIIIEars: i'm warping in-and-out05:12
Razor-Xi've never really found a GUI simpler, per-say05:12
psychonatenickrud, well, I'm going to try this mozplugger quick, but I'm not sure if it works for FF. Either way, thanks for the attempt :)05:12
Razor-XI tend to visualize things better in writing, actually, so, *shrugs*05:12
IIIEarsRazor-X - will chmoding the ut system folder fix the map/mod download stall?05:12
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nickrudpsychonate, :)05:12
Razor-XIIIEars: no harm in it05:13
Razor-Xchmod 771 away05:13
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DAC1138darn wine crashed while trying to get deus ex working, how convenient05:13
WebMavenWell, there are ways of doing that, by releasing the framework as OS so that others can recompile for you, and keeping the game-data proprietary. But few companies have been wiling to go that route.05:13
Razor-XI don't play UT on this box, haven't in a while05:13
regeya_wheee05:13
IIIEarsRazor-X - cool - i'll give it a try.05:13
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IIIEarsThere is a FarCry installer out now. - Wo-ot!05:13
Computer__Guruwhat's farcry again? it sounds familiar05:14
chillywillygame05:14
psychonateFPS05:14
cw2IIIEars: what download stall?05:14
IIIEarsFirst Person Sotter with amazing graphics05:14
WebMavenChurcH_of_FoamY: there are other ways as well, such as creating a free gaming specific distro that users can dual-boot into.05:14
psychonatewell, I don't see mozplugger in FF anywhere. Oh well05:14
IIIEarscw2 - UT99 - chmodding the ut system folder just may fix it. - 777 rw by all?05:15
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cw2ut99 hasnt worked at all for me in I started using a 2.6.x kernel05:15
WebMavenChurcH_of_FoamY: none of this will happen until users insist on it though, one way or another (such as not buying games that require windows).05:15
WebMavenChurcH_of_FoamY: shrug. I can't make myself care much though.05:16
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cw2WebMaven: I'm in, I won't buy a game for myself that won't run on linux05:16
IIIEarsWebMaven - I have to agree. UT2K4 includes one. - certainly give them a hearty thumbs up05:16
cw2ut2k4 runs 64-bit too05:17
cw2and it's noticably smoother than the 32-bit one05:17
cw2quite nice05:17
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fuococw2, smoother on a 64bit OS ?05:17
cw2fuoco: yup05:18
IIIEarsSeveral games include a boot sector app (StarRom?) before they load. - really wrong to treat all of your customers as potential thieves05:18
fuococw2, which ?05:18
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cw2fuoco: ubuntu of course05:18
WebMavenOK, I guess no-one is seeing the same Firefox performance problems I am.05:18
fuocoah :)05:18
rekaWebMaven: what about that ipv6 fix i saw somewhere?05:19
cw2fuoco: I don't know if they've released a win64 binary yet05:19
CzarI've been googling for answers..but cant seem to find any one firm answer. Is it possible (and if so..how hard for a linux noob) to use a linksys WUSB11 v2.4 usb network adapter with the latest version of ubuntu?05:19
IIIEarsFarCry added new content for 64 bit. (faster processor = more physics)05:19
WebMavenIIIEars: Wrong, and stupid. Anyone old enough to remember copy-protection on floppy-based games?05:19
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cw2WebMaven: me!05:19
regeya_WebMaven: aye05:19
cw2WebMaven: too easily defeated05:19
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regeya_WebMaven: I remember attempts at physical copy protection on floppies, when floppies were floppy.05:20
psychonateWebMaven, what problems are you having?05:20
WebMavenreka: I don't know. Is that what I'm seeing?05:20
psychonateFF crashes often for me.05:20
IIIEarsWebMaven - yep - that was a pain. - you could really foul up your system with a poorly designed protection scheme05:20
kevinwhere is the source.list? /etx/???05:20
WebMavenpsychonate: excessive memory footprint, sluggish scrolling behaviour, etc.05:20
cw2ff is fine for me, running the 32bit on on amd64 anyway05:20
goodmanis there any reason an amd64 computer would have less packages available in apt than an x86 (with the same sources.list)?05:20
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psychonateah, don't know about that05:20
calcgoodman: some things aren't 64bit clean (not much though)05:20
cw2goodman: yes, there are still things that won't compile for amd6405:20
WebMavenregeya: No I mean software copy protection.05:20
rekaWebMaven: iirc, type about:config in the url bar05:21
rekaWebMaven: then, set network.dns.disableIPv6 to true05:21
goodmancalc and cw2: but there are a lot of things, like flashplayer-mozilla05:21
goodmancalc and cw2: if either of you have amd64 can you install that?05:21
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cw2goodman: macromedia as not ported flash to 64bit yet05:21
calcgoodman: well binary only crap won't be on 64bit yea05:21
drcodehi all05:21
cw2goodman: so you have to the 32-bit chroot game05:21
IIIEarsinteresting that the new Unreal Tournament 200X was developed on linux. ;)05:22
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kevinwhere is the source.list? /etc/???05:22
cw2kevin: tec/apt/05:22
calc/etc/apt/05:22
kevinty05:22
pbiegaj_hey guys still having a problem with ndiswrapper and my wireless card05:22
drcodeI am looking for video confrance server for linux , that can work like class room on internet05:22
goodmancw2: ummm is there a guide to do that/can you explain?05:22
pbiegaj_where it comes up but I can't get it to talk to my gateway05:22
WebMavenreka: done.05:22
pbiegaj_and get outside of my network05:22
Fuzzy`i am looking for help with installing airsnort, can anyone help me?05:22
rekaWebMaven: any improvement?05:23
cw2pbiegaj_: try using wifiradar to bring up the connection05:23
WebMavenwe'll see...05:23
pbiegaj_cw2, k05:23
WebMavenI'll let you know...05:23
cw2goodman: um, somewhere on the website05:23
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lwrwhen i browse some websites with ff, the browser automatic shutdown,what's the matter?05:23
goodmancw2: found it, thanks05:23
Czaranyone with information on using linksys wusb11 v2.4 usb network adapter with ubuntu?05:23
nickrudpsychonate, do you want to drop me the link that totem opens on? I'm in the process of bringing ubuntu uptodate, and usually want my video to open in mplayer05:23
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cw2Czar: can't you just try it?05:24
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Czarcw2, i do. no detection.05:24
pbiegaj_cw2, what exactly do you wnat me to look for?05:24
interpDoes anyone know of a good wireless keyboard/mouse that works with Ubuntu out of the box?05:24
lwris ubuntu fit for daily use?05:24
nickrudpsychonate, and, you should see mozplugger in about:plugins05:24
Burgundavialwr, yes05:24
Czarlwr, definately.05:24
naliothlwr: yes it is05:24
cw2Czar: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=107905:24
nickruddaily, here05:25
regeya_it makes me old to realize that 18-year-olds were born ca. 1987.05:25
pbiegaj_cw2, I don't know what you'd like me to tell you about the wireless network05:25
regeya_whoops, wrong channel05:25
pbiegaj_the problem is that I'm in my network05:25
pbiegaj_and even when I mimic my wired settings, i.e. route table, etc05:25
Czarcw2, thank you!05:25
drcodeis there any help on stream video in firefox ?05:25
pbiegaj_I still can't get out of the network out in the internet05:25
cw2Czar: google owns you05:26
drcodelike wmv,real player,avi and so?05:26
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rekaregeya: meant for #geriatrics? ;)05:26
cw2drcode: install mplayer-mozilla (i think that's the name)05:26
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WebMavenreka: Yes, seems much better.05:26
rekaWebMaven: good to hear.05:26
Czarcw2, what search string did you use so i can perfect my googling technique.05:26
nickruddrcode, I generally use mozilla-mplayer (cw2:)05:26
cw2Czar: wusb11 v2.4 linux05:27
cw2Czar: "model" "version" "linux"05:27
Czarcw2, thanks05:27
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lwrbut when i listen to music,watch movie,or do some office work, ubuntu appear not so good.there's always some question to finish my job05:27
Antinomycan anyone help me with an install issue?05:28
cw2lwr: can you be more specific?05:28
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jasmuzlwr: what is kyou daily use?05:28
cw2Antinomy: depends on the issue05:28
jasmuzAntinomy: what is your issue?05:28
Antinomyok05:28
Antinomyhere it is05:28
inc595whats up channel05:28
drcodeany idea:05:29
drcodePackage mplayer-386 is not available, but is referred to by another05:29
AntinomyI've just partitioned everything - now I'm at set up users and passwords05:29
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NoHopehi all05:29
nickrudquestions of whether ubuntu is ready for prime time, and how to get the perfect player while browsing05:29
cw2drcode: add the universe and multiverse repositories05:29
crimsundrcode: do you have multiverse enabled?05:29
goodmanare there any other commonly used things besides flashplayer that aren't 64 bit yet?05:29
AntinomyI enter the full name, the user name, the password twice, and it returns me to the original screen05:29
NoHopehey, have someone tried to install PHP 5?05:29
wm_eddieDamn the kernel takes too long to compile on this thing ><05:29
drcodewhat is multiv?05:29
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crimsun!tell drcode about components05:30
cw2drcode: it's in the repository selection05:30
inc595anyone have a decent tapebackup cron script?05:30
cw2goodman: win32 codecs05:30
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drcodedeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main universe05:30
drcodethats what I have05:30
jasmuzAntinomy: are you hitting <enter> when done?05:30
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Antinomyyes05:30
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nickrud!repositories05:31
ubotuhmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:31
Antinomyjasmuz: yes05:31
cw2drcode: it's not in security, its in archive05:31
jasmuzodd05:31
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goodmancw2: ech that's annoying05:31
Antinomyjasmuz: it's a dual boot05:31
nickruddrcode, that's all yu have in /etc/apt/sources.list?05:31
lwrdo i need to install drivers after ubuntu's installtion's over?05:31
jasmuzAntinomy: after you set up the user, the install should continue working05:31
zerboxxWhy is it that sound in linux is so confusing?05:31
cw2goodman: 32-bit chroot fixes that, and a 64-bit fix is on the way05:31
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cw2goodman: 64-bit is for the "willing to hack to get the best" crowd05:32
drcodeI change it deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main universe05:32
Antinomyjasmuz: yes....anyone have any ideas?05:32
cw2goodman: it's real close to mainstream though05:32
inc595anyone have a good script to run in cron for tape backup?05:32
cw2drcode: use synaptic and point-click-drool05:32
nickruddrcode, could you post your /etc/apt/sources.list file on  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl |05:32
krittyHow in the heck do you get the sound to stick.  My card is an Audigy2 and works great but I have to use alsamixer every time I boot.  I've tried the forums and the how to's but it won't take. My husband is not here and I am new to linux.  Please help if you can.05:33
lwrdo i need to install drivers after ubuntu's installtion's over?05:33
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cw2drcode: you are on the road to fucking up your sources list, it's not something to just toss keywords around in05:33
nickruddrcode, ditto cw205:33
krittyditto05:33
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cw2lwr: drivers for what05:34
drcodeI did05:34
drcodenick05:34
lwrlike mainboard, audio05:34
cw2lwr: usualy not05:34
nickruddrcode, give us the link here, so we can take a look05:34
crimsunkritty: paste amixer output to pastebin05:35
cw2lwr: there's extra config for accelerate nvidia and ati cards but that's about it05:35
AntinomyWhy can't I enter a user name and password?05:35
cw2lwr: unless you've got some realy obscure hardware05:35
drcodehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/71105:35
lwrCW2 you are so good, are you a linux expert?05:35
cw2drcode: use synaptic to edit the repositories, it's supoer easy05:36
krittyhttp://pastebin.com/31044105:36
drcodek05:36
nickrudgack, first thing, comment out the debian repository, and do sudo apt-get update05:36
cw2lwr: I've been using linux on the desktop for almost 5 years... and I'm still learning05:36
jasoncohenlol, i really wonder about backports sometimes05:36
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krittyand thanks05:37
naliothjasoncohen: thats why we advise "not for regular use"05:37
drcodek05:37
jasoncohenthey added firefox 1.0.6 but they screwed up the packages.gz file so it doesn't list firefox 1.0.6 but it does list other 1.0.6 packages like firefox-gnome-support05:37
jasoncohenso basically, the debs are sitting in staging but apt-get thinks they're not there...idiots05:37
krittythis is waht I have right now before touching anything05:37
naliothjasoncohen: yes, we are at the end of the chain re ff05:37
nickruddrcode, actually save that file as /etc/apt/sources.mine , and use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 instead05:38
jasoncohennalioth, i just downloaded 1.0.6 and installed it myself. it works great and it took 15 seconds to install05:38
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jasoncohenbackports seem to screw up every package with the wrong dependencies05:38
jasoncohenand when they fix it they break something else05:38
ghpolosomeone experiencied with usb mass storage can help me please ?05:38
nickruddrcode, it's a tried and tested source.list file, known to cause the least problems :)05:38
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ethicsghpolo, shoot05:39
IIIEars!usb05:39
ubotuIIIEars: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about05:39
cw2ghpolo: plug it in, run dmesg to see what sd? it gets, then mount it05:39
ghpolowell05:39
jasoncohenat this point i think mozilla builds are the best way to go for firefox05:39
ghpolonot this problem ;p05:39
ghpoloi got a sata hd and a corsair pen drive05:39
cw2heh05:39
lwrcws2is it disturbing you that a lot of windows files cannot compatilt with linux?05:39
lwris it disturbing you that a lot of windows files cannot compatilt with linux?05:39
ghpoloi did a bootstrap for pen drive05:39
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cw2ghpolo: pen should be sdb05:39
ghpolothen i installed grub and all05:39
ghpoloit boots but there is a problem05:40
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cw2ah, i'm not going there :)05:40
bahblahblahbahcould someone help me?05:40
nickruddrcode, if you need help replacing it, msg me05:40
ghpolocw2: yes, that is the problem05:40
ghpoloi boot it05:40
bahblahblahbahhelp plz?05:40
ghpoloit is initially hd0,005:40
La_PaRCahey guys05:40
ghpolothen when it loads kernel, it isnt anymore05:40
ghpolocause it detected my sata hd then05:40
cw2ghpolo: so, edit the config so it says sda05:40
ghpoloyes, then it loads my sata hd partition05:40
bahblahblahbahhelp? plz................05:40
ghpoloif i let sdb, it doesnt load my pen drive05:40
ethicsghpolo, hmm i think i get it...05:41
krittycrimsun http://pastebin.com/31044105:41
nickrudbahblahblahbah, did you ask a question?05:41
ghpolopretty anoying05:41
ghpolowasted a lot of time today trying to get over it05:41
ghpolotried syslinux, fat partition, etc05:41
cw2ghpolo: interesting problem, tried using grub to remap the bios addresses of the disks?05:41
lwris it disturbing you that a lot of windows files cannot operate  in linux?05:41
nickrudlwr, not really05:41
crimsunkritty: there doesn't seem to be anything at that paste05:41
bahblahblahbahit seems that i messed up my windows mbr or whatever05:41
ghpolohmm cw2, i think i didnt understand the solution05:41
cw2ghpolo: I think it's the "map" command, been a while since I did it05:41
bahblahblahbahand now i can't do anything on ubuntu05:41
NoHopelwr, no. we have a lot of better formats.05:41
bahblahblahbahi just installed it today05:41
ghpolocw2: yes, i used to do it to load windows partition05:41
IIIEarskrityy -pastebin is empty?05:42
ghpolocw2: but seems a bit different here05:42
lwrbut that's the biggest problem in front of me05:42
ghpolocw2: it boots the pen drive, then it is hd0,005:42
regeya_weeeeeeeee05:42
ghpolocw2: how can i tell now it is hd1,0 ?05:42
krittyhttp://pastebin.com/318258 I just tried it and it works05:42
ghpolocw2: and then make it able to access my pen drive correctly passed by the root parameter05:42
NoHopepeople, [apt-get install apache]  don't installs it... what can I do?05:43
IIIEarsah there it is05:43
cw2ghpolo: I'd still try map, can't make it worse05:43
nickrudbahblahblahbah, you mean, you installed ubuntu, then after that, reinstalled windows?05:43
ghpolocw2: of course it couldnt, heh05:43
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crimsunkritty: you passed me the wrong url05:43
ghpolocw2: but you would map what to what ?05:43
krittysorry05:43
cw2ghpolo: 80 to 81, 81 to 8005:43
krittyhttp://pastebin.com/31044105:43
ghpolocw2: exactly like windows ?05:43
bahblahblahbahnickrud: when i resized my two existing partitions to make a third one windows got messed up05:43
ghpolocw2: hmmm05:43
cw2ghpolo: first detected drive always gets 80, no matter what it is05:43
bahblahblahbahthird partition for Ubuntu05:43
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ghpolocw2: right05:44
ghpolocw2: well, im gonna try05:44
ghpolocw2: since i ran out of ideas.. and i didnt think about this05:44
bahblahblahbahand now I can't seem to do anything on Linux because i'm a noob05:44
nickrudbahblahblahbah, ah, I was swinging at low fruit :)05:44
bahblahblahbah...what's that mean?05:44
bahblahblahbahi can't use sudo05:44
crimsunkritty: what exactly is the problem?05:44
regeya_bahblahblahbah, I don't know what to tell you for now, but in the future, write down pertinent info about the partition table, and make full backups before attempting anything.05:44
cw2bahblahblahbah: wait, you can boot?05:44
regeya_whee.05:44
krittycrimsun still?05:45
crimsunkritty: can't hear any sound?05:45
nickrudbahblahblahbah, you can boot ubuntu, but not use sudo?05:45
bahblahblahbahsomething about cannot lookup hostbyname.05:45
regeya_huh.05:45
bahblahblahbahand I cannot edit gdm.conf05:45
bahblahblahbahbecause "i'm not owner"05:45
cw2bahblahblahbah: you didn't set a hostname during install?05:45
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bahblahblahbahyes it was simply "PC"05:45
krittyI can get the sound to work but every reboot I have to go into alsamixer and reset the controls05:45
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cw2or you setup to dhcp and aren't getting an address?05:45
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SDFH_Linuxdoes a usb ethernet card work on ubuntu05:45
bahblahblahbahI'm not getting an address05:45
crimsunkritty: by unmuting the analog/digital output jack?05:46
bahblahblahbahI don't have networking05:46
cw2SDFH_Linux: if the card is supported, yes05:46
bahblahblahbahonly dial-up05:46
SDFH_LinuxD-Link DWL-G132  ?05:46
regeya_that shouldn't be a problem bahblahblahbah05:46
nickrudah, networking, I get to bow out05:46
regeya_and bahblahblahbah could you nickname be any more annoying! *wink*05:46
crimsunSDFH_Linux: usb ethernet works fine05:46
krittyyes05:46
bahblahblahbah...wait...it says something at login about not being able to find an internet address05:46
bahblahblahbahand that ubuntu might not function properly05:46
bahblahblahbah...05:46
SDFH_Linuxcrimsun where do i check if that dlink works05:46
cw2bahblahblahbah: run /usr/sbin/ifconig, does it show a "lo" device?05:46
crimsunkritty: what if you force save it?05:46
bahblahblahbahhow?05:47
bahblahblahbah...-.-05:47
SDFH_Linuxhow i setup a usb ethernet?05:47
bahblahblahbahi feel so stupid...05:47
crimsunkritty: unmute it, then sudo alsactl store05:47
regeya_mmmmm loopback05:47
krittyk 1 sec05:47
cw2oh wait, it's 600 in this05:47
regeya_dammit when I come home to my ubuntu box I miss quicksilver. :-P05:47
cw2SDFH_Linux: plug it in and check dmesg for the device it gets05:47
nickrudbahblahblahbah, I'd look at /etc/hosts, it should have a line similar to 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost hector , where hector is your machine name05:47
SDFH_Linuxthen?05:48
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nickrudbahblahblahbah, PC (?)05:48
cw2SDFH_Linux: then it's just a network device, set it up05:48
IIIEarscrimsun - lin# 97-98 in kritty's config file?05:48
SDFH_Linuxwell it be wlan0?05:48
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SDFH_Linuxwill*05:48
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cw2SDFH_Linux: if it's wireless it might be05:48
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SDFH_Linuxso thats it?05:49
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SDFH_Linuxplug it in dmesg and set it up05:49
cw2if it's supported, yeah, that's it05:49
NoHope#j /apache05:49
cw2NoHope: close05:49
bahblahblahbahnickrud PC is my machine name05:49
krittyIIIEars that is for surround05:49
SDFH_Linuxcw2 where is a list to see if that particular dlink is?05:49
cw2SDFH_Linux: google05:49
bahblahblahbahi'm not very imaginative...can you tell? :X05:49
NoHopebahblahblahbah, cw2 , I just made a mistake.05:49
krittybrb ... rebooting to see if that worked05:50
cw2NoHope: i know :)05:50
IIIEarskritty - ah thanks - just hoping to learn something.05:50
krittyIIIEars np05:50
nickrudbahblahblahbah, I use names from the illiad, cuz I have no imagination either :)05:50
bahblahblahbahi have no /etc/hosts05:51
cw2i use a description of what it is, mu file server is called... ready for this? ... filesrv05:51
cw2bahblahblahbah: that's a problem05:51
regeya_my machine is named 'leto'05:51
bahblahblahbahhow do i fix cw2?05:51
bahblahblahbah:X05:51
nickrudbahblahblahbah, then you have troubles05:51
bahblahblahbahwhat to do?!05:51
regeya_I was using lovecraftian names but cuthulhu is a bit awkward05:51
cw2bahblahblahbah: boot off the cd in rescue mode (ubunutu has rescue right?)05:51
SDFH_Linuxcw2 where is a list to see if that particular dlink is supported?05:52
bahblahblahbaherr dunno05:52
nickrudregeya, finding short ones in the iliad can be trying :)05:52
Computer__Guruyay my mplayer is now codec-133705:52
cw2SDFH_Linux: google "modle number" "linux"05:52
bahblahblahbah:X:X:X tell me what to do!05:52
bahblahblahbah-.-05:52
bahblahblahbah*sigh* this is frustrating05:52
regeya_www05:52
cw2bahblahblahbah: boot off the cd and the boot prompt type "rescue"05:52
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bahblahblahbahand i'm running back and forth two rooms between two computers...-.-05:53
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bahblahblahbahcw2: thx05:53
cw2bahblahblahbah: i don't know that it has that option05:53
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cw2bahblahblahbah: but once you get into the installer theres and option to get a console, mount your disk and fix the file05:53
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bahblahblahbahis there an Windows theme on ubuntu?05:54
krittycrimsun it didn't work.... alsamixer was at defaults and the gnome volume controls was allthe way down05:54
Antinomyall05:54
wm_eddiebahblahblahbah: Many.05:55
wm_eddiebahblahblahbah: checkout art.gnome.org05:55
knowledge_where can I read about making a .deb from a tar.gz?05:55
AntinomyI am installing a dual boot, and I have a screen I'm not sure how to answer. it is "kernel to install:" and the choices are linux-386, linux-image-386, and linux-image-2.6.10-5-38605:55
nickrudbahblahblahbah, you can use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/713 as a replacement for /etc/hosts05:56
nickrudbahblahblahbah, replace hector with whatever     uname -n     returns in a terminal05:56
krittyit is like the sound works when I manualy enable it but not if I reboot.  When I reboot It goes back to defaultd05:56
nickrudbahblahblahbah, that will probably fix some of the problems05:57
Computer__Gurumplayer -version:05:57
Computer__GuruMPlayer 1.0pre6-3.3.5 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team05:57
Computer__GuruCPU: Intel Pentium 4/Xeon Willamette (Family: 8, Stepping: 2)05:57
Computer__GuruDetected cache-line size is 64 bytes05:57
Computer__GuruMMX2 supported but disabled05:57
Computer__GuruSSE2 supported but disabled05:57
bahblahblahbahi think i'll just reinstall05:57
Computer__GuruCPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 005:57
crimsunkritty: default Hoary?05:57
Computer__GuruCompiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX SSE05:57
Computer__GuruUnknown option on the command line: version05:57
Computer__Guruerr05:57
krittyyes..05:57
Computer__Gurushorry05:57
bahblahblahbahnickrud: on my first boot after install it took like 1hr 30 mins to load05:57
crimsunkritty: you may need to upgrade alsa versions05:57
bahblahblahbah...is that normal?05:57
AntinomyI am installing a dual boot, and I have a screen I'm not sure how to answer. it is "kernel to install:" and the choices are linux-386, linux-image-386, and linux-image-2.6.10-5-38605:57
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crimsun!tell kritty about alsa-source05:57
gigaclonbahblahblahbah, no05:57
krittyK...... where should I go05:57
nickrudbahblahblahbah, no, and, I'm not good with installs05:57
crimsunjust told you.05:57
bahblahblahbah...-.-05:57
krittythat crimsun05:58
krittytahnks05:58
krittythanks05:58
bahblahblahbahit was selecting deselected objects or something.....05:58
bimberibahblahblahbah: if it was selecting and unpacking packages - yes05:58
bahblahblahbahphew =)05:58
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fuocowhat filesystem is best to use with ubuntu ?05:58
gigaclonext305:58
bahblahblahbah...darn05:58
AntinomyI am installing a dual boot, and I have a screen I'm not sure how to answer. it is "kernel to install:" and the choices are linux-386, linux-image-386, and linux-image-2.6.10-5-38605:59
fuocogigaclon, not reiserfs ?05:59
bahblahblahbahlol i did linux-imag-2.6.10-5-38605:59
bahblahblahbahi did reiserfs05:59
bahblahblahbahbut i don't know anything so...05:59
Antinomydoes it matter?05:59
bahblahblahbahwell some of more secure and faster...i think05:59
IIIEarsAntinomy - I am very new at this. - guessing we need a little info on your hardware. processor05:59
nickrudAntinomy, get linux-38605:59
Computer__Gurulinux-image-2.6.10-68606:00
Computer__Guruerr06:00
Computer__Gurulinux-image-2.6.10-5-68606:00
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bahblahblahbahhe doesn't have that06:00
bahblahblahbahit's 38606:00
Antinomynickrud: I'm in the middle of an install06:00
Computer__Guruunless youre actually on a 386 system06:00
bahblahblahbahhe has 386 not 68606:00
Computer__Gurucat /proc/version:06:00
Computer__GuruLinux version 2.6.10-5-686 (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #1 Fri Jun 24 17:33:34 UTC 200506:00
nickrudAntinomy, then, after the install is finished, you can fine tune which kernel you get06:00
Computer__Guruit can be 68606:00
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Computer__Guru:>06:00
bahblahblahbah:X06:00
nickrudbut the choices were ........06:00
Antinomynickrud: in the meantime, pick?06:00
bahblahblahbahis there an alternative to API's in linux?06:00
bahblahblahbahlike something like windows api's?06:01
wm_eddieAPIs?06:01
krittycrimsun do I worry about config with the ISA pnp support? No right06:01
nickrudAntinomy, the most generic06:01
IIIEarsAntinomy -anything 386 would work06:01
bahblahblahbahAPI's are Windows functions for programming...06:01
Antinomyok, thanks linux-386 it is06:01
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IIIEarsUbuntu is awesome - precompiled kernels are handy06:01
regeya_hoboy.06:01
wm_eddiebahblahblahbah: No API is a generic term.06:01
Antinomynickrud: So I can upgrade the kernel later?06:02
nickrudAntinomy, yes, to your hearts content :)06:02
IIIEarsAntimony - yes06:02
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Antinomythks06:02
vaderhey there people...how do I configure the the battery display to actually show what's left on my battery?06:02
bahblahblahbahoh ok wm_eddie06:02
IIIEarstake a look at 686 images for recent hardware06:02
Antinomywho is being helped in a particularyl charitable way, regeya?06:02
bahblahblahbahI'm reinstalling and it says Unable to load some modules...06:02
bahblahblahbah=X06:02
Antinomynow the install has froze.06:03
bahblahblahbah...06:03
wm_eddiebahblahblahbah: If you want to learn how to make a program on linux check out the PyGTK tutorials06:03
bahblahblahbahk06:03
bahblahblahbahi already program on windows.... :)06:04
IIIEarsquick trip to 7-11 - refueling needed - lol06:04
bimberivader: Are you using the panel applet?06:04
bahblahblahbahhdparm thing...what should i use?06:04
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bahblahblahbahor should i leave it blank?06:04
AntinomyOk, does anyone have any clue why this install keeps throwing me back to "Enter a full name for the new user:"?06:04
nickrudAntinomy, well, I can promise that choosing linux-386 was not the cause06:04
vaderthe gnome desktop, default install06:04
bahblahblahbahnickrud what is hdparm?06:05
vaderbimberi: if that is what you meant06:05
IIIEars-awayblahblah, - It is the drive interface config app06:05
bimberivader: I was able to add a battery applet to the gnome-panel and configure it to display a % left06:06
AntinomyOk, does anyone have any clue why this install keeps throwing me back to "Enter a full name for the new user:"?06:06
bahblahblahbahwhat should i put in it? it says it can greatly speed up reading packages06:06
bahblahblahbahsorry Aninomy...no idea -.-;;;06:06
bahblahblahbahAntinomy*06:06
vaderokay I cannot for some reason, but I am very week when it comes to anything like this06:06
Antinomyok06:06
Antinomythanks for answering, at least06:06
bahblahblahbahanyone know what i should put in hdparm?06:07
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bahblahblahbahto speed up reading of packages?06:07
IIIEars-awayblahblah some config switches HDPARM http://www.linuxnetmag.com/en/issue7/m7hdparm1.html06:07
bahblahblahbahthx :) i thought you were going to 7-1106:07
bahblahblahbah?06:07
vadertha applet is there but reads 0% when unplugged but the laptop is running06:07
SDFH_Linuxdo usb wirless ethernet cards use ndiswrapper?06:07
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IIIEars-awaylol - shamefully 'net addicted. - rakeish grin06:08
bahblahblahbahlol - so am i06:08
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vaderIIIEars: so am I lol06:08
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nickrudbahblahblahbah, hdparm is not much needed for anything but setting up the cdrom, normally06:09
bimberivader: Right-click on a panel, select "Add to Panel...", "Battery Charge Montor"06:09
bimberi*Monitor06:09
nickrudbahblahblahbah, sorry, called awa for a sec06:09
ghpolocw2: no success ;/06:10
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhow do i tell gnome what apps to use for internet radio and such?06:10
Fuzzy`what does this mean? >> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.06:10
nickrudbahblahblahbah, but, /etc/hdparm.conf is where you set that stuff06:11
vaderit is on the panel but doesn't show the status....just reads 0%06:11
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bahblahblahbahif i set a partition as another file system it formats only that partition right?06:12
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vaderbimberi: do you think maybe booting with the power unplugged would do it?06:14
bimberivader: I doubt it06:14
vaderok06:14
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AntinomyI am at the partitioning point, and I cannot get it to finish partitioning and move to the next step.06:15
vaderI am sort of concerned about this as it is a new laptop to me and I don't know the length of time it will go on a charge06:15
Antinomyanyone want to take a swing?06:15
bahblahblahbahwhat does it say?06:15
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bahblahblahbahantinomy what does it say?06:15
Antinomybahblahblahbah: me?06:15
Antinomyok06:15
bahblahblahbahsomething about root?06:15
Antinomyit lists the 4 partitions06:15
nickrudAntinomy, try using page down, the correct selection is off the screen, if I remember correctly :)06:16
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bimberivader: You'll need to have one or more of acpi and apmd installed06:16
regeya_I'm playing around with openoffice's datasource view.  gah.  the query designer reminds me of access.  too many years since I messed with access.  meh.06:16
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AntinomyI have them set up, I hit "finish partioning" and it just sends me back to the screen06:16
bahblahblahbah:X dunno06:16
bahblahblahbahsorry06:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhen i look through the backports for mozilla what version am i looking for?06:16
vaderok do the synaptic for it?06:16
bahblahblahbahnickrud: if i change the file system of a partition it only formats that partition right?06:16
AntinomyDoes anyone know about this?06:16
nickrudbahblahblahbah, in what context? but in cfdisk, and the ubuntu install, I will say es06:17
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nickrud*yes06:17
AntinomyMaybe if someone could review my partitions that might give us a clue - cuz I did not have this trouble on a single drive install06:17
bahblahblahbahi'm chaning for reifser or whatever to ext306:17
bahblahblahbahchanging* from*06:17
bimberivader: yes06:17
bahblahblahbahand I'm leaving all the other partitions alone06:17
Antinomy1) Primary 7.5 GB fat32 (XP)06:18
vaderbimberi: doing it now06:18
Antinomy2) Primary 7.5 GB ext3 (will be ubu)06:18
Antinomy3) Primary 510.0 MB swap swap06:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYany ideas people?06:18
Antinomy4) primary 44.5 GB fat3206:18
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La_PaRCawhats a good mail list app?06:19
La_PaRCasomething to manage a big mailing list06:19
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volvoguydoes anyone know of a good mdadm how-to that doesn't involve putting the system disc in the RAID array? the few on the wiki and forums seem overly complicated because of the booting requirement.06:19
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ray_anybody know why my fire fox will not open a download window?06:20
vaderbimberi: with the power unplugged it is still reading 0%06:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes cause it's busted06:20
AntinomyIt's amazing to me that windows is easier to install than ubuntu.06:20
vaderwith both installed06:20
ray_why is that amazing?06:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYactually i find ubuntu easyer to install then windows06:21
Fuzzy`me too06:21
volvoguyAntinomy: it is? i thought ubuntu was both faster and easier.06:21
Antinomyoh really? then maybe you can help me?06:21
jasmuzAntinomy: you where the one that selected the expert install...dont come around talking about win here06:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYok whats up? ^_^06:21
Antinomyvolvoguy: great maybe you can help me06:21
ray_anybody know why my fire fox will not open a download window?06:21
Fuzzy`but I get an error that noone understands06:21
vaderChrucH_of_FoamY: same here06:21
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volvoguyAntinomy: i can try. what kind of problem are you having?06:21
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Antinomyvolvoguy: thanks man.06:22
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ray_anybody know why my fire fox will not open a download window?06:22
volvoguyAntinomy: keep in mind that i'm the artwork guy, not a programmer guy. :)06:22
glickexcuse me, i followed the ubuntuguide.org for installing firefox java support but it didnt work06:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYray_ because it's broken right now06:22
Antinomyvolvoguy: I am installing a dual boot. I set up the partitions according to some community advice, and it won't let me go past the partition screen06:22
glickhow can i get jre workin with firefox06:22
bimberivader: does acpi -V show anything? (in a terminal window)06:22
ray_ChurcH_of_FoamY, for you too?06:22
vaderdoing it now06:22
Antinomyvolvoguy: Well, you're a lot nicer than some of the programming guys, and at least you offered to help06:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYray_ yes06:23
volvoguyAntinomy: do you get any error messages?06:23
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ray_ChurcH_of_FoamY, well what the fuck06:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYhey i did too06:23
Antinomyvolvoguy: the sad thing is that I had to say "windows" to get most of their attentions06:23
Antinomyvolvoguy: no, it just repeats the screen06:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYray_ use epiphany it's quick and kinda good06:23
vaderbimberi: comes up with the license06:23
volvoguyAntinomy: heh. that's ok. i dual-boot two systems myself.06:23
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwatch out for popups though06:23
glickanyone kow how to hookup java?06:23
Antinomyvolvoguy: it wont let me go forward06:23
bimberivader: ... and nothing else?06:23
Razor-Xanyone willing to lounge in the offtopic channel?06:24
vadernope06:24
fishiethis might be a dumb question but can i mount a network drive in linux06:24
volvoguyAntinomy: so you set things up the way you want and tell it to write the partitions to disc?06:24
Antinomyvolvoguy: that's cool06:24
fishiethats a fat3206:24
ray_ChurcH_of_FoamY, if i do a dpkg-reconfigure mozilla-firefox it works for a minute06:24
Razor-Xrobotgeek's the only one who's talked there in the last 18 hours06:24
Antinomyvolvoguy: right.06:24
vader0.07 sorry06:24
Antinomyand it just repeats the screen06:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYray_ really thats odd let me try06:24
ray_ChurcH_of_FoamY, yes try06:24
vadermust be the ...noob in me lol06:24
[2] BoxingFiendglick: did ya install sun-j2rel1.5?06:25
volvoguyAntinomy: hmm.. let me go find one of those obscene amounts of screenshots sites so i can see where you're at.06:25
gigaclonwhats the difference between sudo and fakeroot?06:25
glick[2] BoxingFiend, yes i did06:25
bimberivader: naah - but it's getting outside my experience now06:25
jasmuzAntinomy: if you cant find a solution for it just redo the install06:25
vaderok06:25
AntinomyjasI already have. twice.06:25
vaderis bob2 still here?06:25
Antinomyvolvoguy: thanks for actually listening - and helping06:26
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vadernope... don't see him lol06:26
[2] BoxingFiendglick: what do you get when ya type java -version06:26
volvoguywho does those mass screenshot things? is it o'reilly?06:26
glick[2] BoxingFiend,06:26
glickjava version "1.5.0_03"06:26
glickJava(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_03-b07)06:26
glickJava HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_03-b07, mixed mode, sharing)06:26
jasmuzAntinomy: what are the specs of the install machine?06:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYray_ i did it to mine and it works fine06:26
ray_the sun-j2re or what ever packege doesnt set up firefox06:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYthat could be because i have backports enabled though06:27
bahblahblahbahhow do you dual-boot?06:27
glicksorry everyone06:27
Antinomyjasmuz: AMD 64 60 GB HD06:27
ray_ChurcH_of_FoamY, give it ten minutes06:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYok06:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYwill doo06:27
vaderbimberi: I will give it a full charge and see what it says06:27
jasmuzAntinomy: are you installing 32 or 64 Ubuntu?06:27
[2] BoxingFiendglick: so which part of jre isn't working for you06:27
Antinomy32 - was told to by forum moderator06:28
glick[2] BoxingFiend, when i try to access a java enabled webpage with firefox06:28
ray_ChurcH_of_FoamY, or quit firefox and try again06:28
Antinomyjasmuz: 32 - was told to by forum moderator06:28
volvoguyAntinomy: rereading here it looks like your partitions should be ok.06:28
ray_you have to creaTe a symbolic link to libjavaplugin_oji.so06:28
Antinomyvolvoguy: thanks06:28
bob2vader: ?06:28
glickray_, where is that lib?06:28
vaderyes sir06:29
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Antinomyvolvoguy: then I guess it's back to chairman bill's slopworks06:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYray_ trying again06:29
Computer__Guruthere should be a program that screen's X apps06:29
ray_ChurcH_of_FoamY, did youexit the browser06:29
vaderbob2: do you know how to get my battery status to work?06:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes06:29
Antinomyvolvoguy: thanks again man06:29
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ray_glick, if you have java installed you have it06:29
[2] BoxingFiendglick:  visit www.javatester.org and see if firefox have thinks you have java installed06:29
volvoguyAntinomy: i'm still lookin' around if you have time to hang out.06:30
Antinomyvolvoguy: totally.06:30
jasmuzAntinomy: dont quit just yet06:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYray_ no shit it broke again hmm that is odd06:30
vaderbob2: acpi -v gives me 0.07 and the license and the no warranty06:30
volvoguyAntinomy: ok06:30
Antinomyvolvoguy: can I take a stab here?06:30
bob2vader: you need to be way more specific than that06:30
glick[2] BoxingFiend, i have to set up the java plugin and put a link to it in the mozilla plugin directory dont I?06:30
bob2vader: you mean 'acpi -V'06:30
ray_ChurcH_of_FoamY, yeah its never done that tome before06:30
vaderyes06:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYi wonder what breaks in there that would cause that to happen06:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYray_ same here06:30
volvoguyAntinomy: sure. shoot.06:30
Antinomymaybe I should install the XP partition, then do guided on the rest of the free space06:30
mebaran151is there a firefox backport for amd6406:30
Computer__Gurui wonder if you could actually use screen to screen X apps06:30
Computer__Guruhrmm06:30
bahblahblahbahshould I install the remaining packages?06:31
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ray_ChurcH_of_FoamY, i think it has something to do with the update06:31
Antinomyinstead of custom-ing it06:31
[2] BoxingFiendglick:  nah, the apt script took care of that, after installing java you should just need to restart firefox06:31
glicki did restart firefox06:31
glickits not working06:31
bahblahblahbahshould I install the remaining packages?06:31
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Kungashi06:31
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bahblahblahbahhi Kungas06:31
Antinomyright? because doesnt ubuntu install handle the swap and all that jazz?06:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYray_ same here but what would cause it to work for a few but then break again?06:31
[2] BoxingFiendglick:  which version of firefox06:31
ray_no  java doesnt work after the apt script06:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYto me that just dosen't make sence06:31
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Kungasi know this may sound stupid but what's the root passwords in ubuntu?06:31
bahblahblahbahhey IIIEars...back?06:32
bob2vader: so, paste the output of 'acpi -V' to #flood06:32
bob2Kungas: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:32
ray_it puts a link in the plugins directory but it is the wrong one06:32
volvoguyAntinomy: does it look like it actually writes the partitions? do you get a status bar for any amount of time?06:32
glick[2] BoxingFiend, the latest one thats available for ubuntu06:32
bob2Kungas: also, the installer explained it to you at the end of the install, and it's in the FAQ (in the /topic)06:32
Kungasbob2: thanks06:32
vaderbob2: url please06:32
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bob2vader: ?06:32
visor_guys have you noticed that j2re has been erased from the repos?06:32
vaderfor paste bin06:32
visor_i cant seem to install it06:32
ray_anybody else having problems downloading from firefox?06:32
Antinomyvolvo - the partitions are already written! I'm redoing it.06:32
bob2vader: the irc channel #flood06:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYholy shoot!!! ^_^ for the first time ever my sound works perfectly with ubuntu ^_^06:32
bob2visor_: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java06:33
bahblahblahbahlol...i never listen to anything06:33
ray_visor_, yeah i was pissed06:33
bob2visor_: note that it was never in ubuntu itself06:33
bahblahblahbahi don't need sound ...XD06:33
Antinomyvolvoguy: but now it wont let me past this screen at all! (it did once before)06:33
Computer__Gurubob2: follow with me here for a sec. lets say i run screen, and from within screen i launch say gftp, then i detach the screen... gftp still shows up, but the question is: if i log out of kde (thus destroying the gftp windows) and log back in and reattach the screen, will it redraw my application windows?06:33
IIIEars_Back from 7-11 with dinner. sushi, Doritos and a big gulp. - them is god eats... - lol06:33
bahblahblahbahlol06:33
nickrudglick, the short version is, get the sun jre, and, from the directory you downloaded it to:  sudo apt-get install build-essential javapackage  , then fakeroot make-jpkg jre<tab> ; then dpkg -i sun<tab>06:33
bahblahblahbahnot a very healthy dinner IIIEars XD06:33
visor_bob2: yeah it was on ubuntu backports wasnt it?06:33
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bob2visor_: no idea06:33
volvoguyAntinomy: ok. when you're on the "partition disks" screen, have you tried either "go back" or "no" to try and get to the main menu (where theoretically you could manually move on to the next step)06:33
bahblahblahbahthey sell sushi at 7-11?!06:33
bahblahblahbahlol06:33
glicknickrud, ahhh screw that thats toomuch hassel theres got to be a damn easier way06:33
bob2Computer__Guru: nope, it will die06:34
Antinomylet me see06:34
Computer__Gurubob2: well that just sucks06:34
bob2Computer__Guru: if you really want to do that sort of thing with X, you need "xmove"06:34
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nickrudglick, yeah, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java06:34
Computer__Gurubob2: i want screen for X apps06:34
bob2Computer__Guru: dude, you killed it's connection to the X server, what do you expect it to do?06:34
bob2Computer__Guru: as above06:34
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lexhideris breezy xorg broken or is the problem on my end?06:34
bob2lexhider: /topic06:34
AntinomyNo - I moved on to the "install base system" and it kicks me back to partition disks. I can't move on. There's something unacceptable about these partitions, is my guess06:34
lexhiderbob2: thanks.06:35
vaderbob2: is it the freenode #flood?06:35
bahblahblahbahAntinomy...err...is there a /root thingie06:35
IIIEars_Antinomy - added a swap parttion?06:35
syndis it me or is epiphany seem quite a bit faster than firefox06:35
Antinomybahblahblahbah: yes06:35
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syndor does*06:35
Antinomybahblahblahbah: and a swap06:35
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bob2vader: yes06:35
nickrudglick, that's the jdk, not the jre, the jre is easier, as I said06:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYfor all you people who want to get a really good sound card get a soundblaster live digital 5.106:36
bob2Computer__Guru: tho I do hear xmove was flakey in the past06:36
Antinomy1) Primary 7.5 GB fat32 (XP)06:36
Antinomy2) Primary 7.5 GB ext3 (will be ubu)06:36
volvoguyAntinomy: that's weird. you could try booting with a live cd and then use cfdisk to double-check things and fix if necessary.06:36
Antinomy3) Primary 510.0 MB swap swap06:36
truz24nickrud, you displayed info on installing the jdk? Can you repost?06:36
Computer__Gurublah06:36
glicknickrud, i just want the fre06:36
Antinomy4) primary 44.5 GB fat3206:36
glickjre06:36
Varangerwhat does kernel option pci=biosirq do ?06:36
bob2Computer__Guru: try it and see, or just use lftp06:36
Antinomythe last one was formerly /home but now has no mount point, and wont let me add one./06:36
bob2Varanger: work around broken acpi hardware, I gather06:36
Computer__Gurui was just using ftp as an example06:36
vaderbob2: do you see it there?06:36
Varangerbob2: for example...06:37
Computer__Gurui would really like the ability to screen X apps :D06:37
Varanger?06:37
nickrudtruz24, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java , it's a good link based on the poster06:37
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bob2Varanger: for example what?06:37
ray_ChurcH_of_FoamY, i just downloaded the firefox from the website and it works fine06:37
bob2Computer__Guru: so, are you not reading what I'm saying, or have you tried xmove already?06:37
wing`im trying to install Enemy territory, but it says error in md5 checksum. i will have to download it all again?06:37
zerboxxAnyone here have experience with point2play and cedega?06:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYray_ now that is great to know i will do the same06:37
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Computer__Guruim looking at it :)06:37
Antinomyvolvoguy: ok, 2 quesations. Would this happen because I'm using an x86 install disk on a AMD 64?06:37
bob2vader: this will be a very frustrating conversation if you don't read what I say06:37
truz24nickrud, thanks06:37
bob2vader: 'acpi -V' is not what you just ran06:37
Varangerbob2: what do you mean by brokem acpi ?06:37
volvoguyAntinomy: no. that shouldn't be a problem.06:38
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bob2Varanger: do you know what ACPI is?06:38
nickrudtruz24, I'm trusting the poster :)06:38
Antinomyvolvoguy: AND, what would happen if I just had a small boot for windows and the rest of the space for ubuntu? And did guided partitioning?06:38
tim_is there a 'move directory' command?06:38
Antinomycould my windows side see my linux side?06:38
bob2tim_: "mv"06:39
Antinomytim_: mvdir06:39
vaderbob2: sorry out that06:39
timgod thats confusing :(06:39
timlol06:39
bob2Antinomy: windows can't natively do anything with linux parttions, aside from formatting them06:39
glickwhat do i have to do to get jre working for firefox?06:39
Antinomybob2: ok06:39
Computer__Gurubob2: so once i start an xmove server with the command xmove, how do i get things to run under it?06:39
Varangerbob2: yes, it's something for power managemente06:39
tim_mvdir text/ ~/06:39
bob2mvdir does not exist, afaik06:39
tim_bash: mvdir: command not found06:39
volvoguyAntinomy: i was thinking something like that. keep your WinXP where it is, then in windows make the second partition your FAT32 partition and leave the rest of the drive as free space.06:39
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tim_yea06:39
IIIEars_Antinomy - there is a extfs driver for windows read only06:39
bob2tim_: it's mv06:39
bahblahblahbahit says the Debian Package Management Tool, apt, is now configured....06:39
wm_eddieAntinomy: There are a couple of cmd.exe programs that can read ext3 and the like.06:39
bahblahblahbahadd another apt source?06:39
bahblahblahbahshould I add another apt source?06:39
Antinomyok let me try volvo06:39
bob2tim_: and it's not very confusing, you use mv to move anything on a filesystem06:39
Varangerbob2: that's why I don't understand why a broken power managemente can corrupt pci06:39
bob2bahblahblahbah: no06:39
Antinomythanks all let me see06:39
bahblahblahbahbob2: thx06:40
volvoguyAntinomy: that only works if your FAT partition is empty right now though.06:40
wing`im trying to install Enemy territory, but it says error in md5 checksum. i will have to download it all again? anyone?06:40
tim_thanks bob!06:40
bob2Varanger: it does other things, too, like arrange irq lines06:40
timbob2, I'm "tim" not "tim_" I'm just saying its confusing cuz I keep getting highlighted when ur talking to "tim_" lol06:40
bob2ow06:40
tim_o man...lol06:40
bahblahblahbahInstall GRUB or LILO?06:40
ray_glick, talk to me in private06:40
bob2bahblahblahbah: just use the default, grub06:40
ray_wing`, yes sorry06:41
bahblahblahbahbob2: thx again :)06:41
tim_i need to change my name anyway...bitchx defaults06:41
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Computer__Gurubob2: did you see my question? it's not very helpful by way of instructions.. once i start xmove, how do i get applications to connect to it?06:41
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mgcrosshaving a problem...sudo staus seems to stick around for differant apps...what's up with that?06:41
mgcross*status06:41
bob2vader: and what does 'uname -r' say?06:41
wing`ray_, why is that? i used k4x to download it, maybe is it?06:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYhmm i need to find a way to tweak the volume sepratly for 2 diffrent apps06:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i can't figure out how to do it06:41
bob2ChurcH_of_FoamY: not possible, sorry06:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYreally? why not?06:42
bob2unless the apps have their own volume control06:42
srianybody know what package 'xauth' is in breezy?  it's missing.06:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok06:42
mgcrossthat is, I only need to enter sudo pass once and all apps requiring sudo staus will open for a while without prompting for password06:42
bob2why can't I fly by flapping my arms?06:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYbeep does but teamspeak dosen't06:42
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ChurcH_of_FoamYand if i turn beeps sound up and down teamspeaks sound also mucks up06:43
IIIEars_mgcross - Ubuntu caches your password for 15mins06:43
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mgcrossIIIEars: how safe is THAT? kinda freaks me out...06:44
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bahblahblahbahwell I'm gonna go now06:45
bahblahblahbahthx for all the help06:45
bahblahblahbahI'll come back later if it still doesn't work though -.-06:45
mgcrossIIIEars: any way to change that...or must I "go forth and read mans, my son"?06:45
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IIIEars_mgcross - dunno - left it at the default. - shepish grin06:45
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robotgeekhey..i just burnt my first cd in linux!!06:46
HrdwrBoBwoo06:46
mgcrossIIIEars: hehe...no need for sheepishness...do you get paid for this?06:46
billytwowillyyay...06:46
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IIIEars_robotgeek - nice! - Welcome - not a reason in the world to go back to windows adware/spyware and closed source.06:47
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robotgeekIIIEars_, i know...and u know what the most interesting part is ?? It was done an internal drive in a box casing!06:48
vaderIIIEars: and viruses lest we forget06:48
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gigaclonWee, java works06:48
wm_eddieDamn problems.  I understand what jwz switched...06:48
robotgeeka 65$ external dvd writer for my laptop :)06:48
IIIEars_trialware/adware a coopted active-x controls. - bah (hugs his Ubuntu box)06:48
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robotgeekNow, i don't want to go to OS X!06:49
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vaderIIIEars: true, very true06:49
bob2ChurcH_of_FoamY: er06:49
bob2Computer__Guru: er06:49
ChurcH_of_FoamYyes?06:49
volvoguywell folks, i'm off to figure out raid on my own. wish me luck. :)06:50
bob2Computer__Guru: so I went and installed it...and found a file called using_xmove.txt.  that doesn't explain it?06:50
visor_nvu was droped from repos too?06:50
bob2ChurcH_of_FoamY: sorry, bad tab completion06:50
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok06:50
bob2visor_: it's never been in ubuntu, afaik06:50
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IIIEars_nvu is a snap to install06:50
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visor_bob2: well it was on backports06:50
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bob2vader: your kernel is pretty old, perhaps uprading to hoary would give you acpi support06:51
visor_bob2: it seems many packages have been droped06:51
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bob2vader: or maybe your computer predates acpi06:51
bob2visor_: from backports?06:51
bob2nvu would never have been a "backport", by definition06:51
vaderbob2:okay, I guess I need to download that then?06:51
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admrl_could anyone help me installing a grub bootsplash06:51
visor_bob2: yes, i havent found java, nvu and other06:52
vaderbob2: it is p2 366 with 256 mb ram.....just so you know06:52
glickadmrl_, why waste your time with that? who cares abut boot splashes? once it boots its booted06:52
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bob2vader: then it almost certainly doesn't have acpi06:52
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robotgeek*out*06:52
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vaderbob2: ok, so it won't work even with HOARY then?06:53
IIIEars_visor_ - the ubuntuguide for j2re was tough for me to follow. searched a bit on the ubuntu dev forums and found a j2re.deb file hiddeen there06:53
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bob2vader: you don't have any acpi hardware06:53
mgcrossjust a heads up....ripped whole cd's to my drive...no didn't back them up...was having a hard time getting full menu support...ogle does the job just fine...06:53
vaderhmmmm....ok06:53
vaderjust trying to get my battery indicatior to work... and now don't know if I can lol06:54
admrl_glick, i wanna install a splash screen cuz it would b way more fun06:54
seth_kwhat's that Xorg program that I can use to adjust my screen, and then it'll spit out a Modeline for me to use? Anyone know?06:54
bob2so, 'sudo modprobe apm'06:54
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glickadmrl_, if you get your kicks from boot spash screens i would seriusly re-evaluate the direction my life is heading in if i were you06:55
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admrl_lol06:55
bob2come on, people06:55
redtechwow06:55
thoreauputicseth_k: xvidtune ?06:55
Nameeaterthe grub text spash screen isn't very exciting, it has to be admited06:56
seth_kthoreauputic, that's it, cheers06:56
thoreauputic:)06:56
vaderty bob2....ty ty ty06:56
admrl_THANK YOU Nameeater!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!106:56
Nameeater:)06:56
IIIEars_Be nice guys "Ubuntu" Hamanity to others remember?06:56
wing`anyone there can help me running teamspeak?06:56
vaderit is now showing 100%06:56
zerboxxWhy is it that when I try to run a program, nothing is happening, while I was using it a while ago and it was fine?06:57
admrl_can anyone tell me where i can go to get help06:57
glickIIIEars_, they say dont kick a man when hes down, I say kick a man when he is down and he will get up faster!06:57
vadernight one and all, it is like an hour past the bed time.....see you all tomorrow06:57
bob2admrl_: try talking to the bootsplash people06:57
bob2but it will be a large amount of work, for little gain06:57
thoreauputicglick: assuming you didn't cripple him, of course ;)06:57
admrl_whos the bootsplash people06:57
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deFrysknuthouse ? ;p06:58
admrl_nice06:58
deFrysksorry, just woke up06:58
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deFryskfirst coffee and stuff06:58
zerboxxwhat is a good menu editor for ubuntu? (using gnome)06:59
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admrl_* Now talking on #bootsplashpeople06:59
admrl_* kornbluth.freenode.net sets mode +n #bootsplashpeople06:59
Burgundaviazerboxx, smeg06:59
admrl_there wasnt anyone there06:59
admrl_;)06:59
IIIEars_amrl_ - linuxquestions.org has some good exmples and howtos. give it a look06:59
bob2admrl_: you'll need to go find them using google or something06:59
deFryskubuntuguide has a a howto too i think07:00
bob2admrl_: but be aware that you'll have to put in a lot of work, and afaik it involves making your own incompatible kernel07:00
admrl_ive been looking but everything that they tell me to do doesnt work07:00
wing`wtf is this? Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed07:00
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wing`it happens when i try to run TeamSpeak.sh07:00
ray_ChurcH_of_FoamY, do you have the backports07:00
bob2wing`: you're running it as root?07:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYray_ yes i do07:00
ray_ChurcH_of_FoamY, if you upgrade firfox from there it works07:00
wing`yes07:00
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admrl_ok well thanx guys i guess i will just keep looking07:00
ray_ChurcH_of_FoamY, you can tell this has been pissing me off07:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYray_ which one do i pick i looked but coulden't figure it out in syn07:01
bob2wing`: then don't do that07:01
ChurcH_of_FoamYray_ same here man same here07:01
Nameeateradmrl_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30341.html07:01
ray_umm i just did a apt-get install mozilla-firefox and it downloaded the new one after un uncommented the backports07:02
IIIEars_admrl_ http://www.frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/5.04/07:02
wing`now im trying without root and it isnt opening07:02
wing`no error07:02
SDFH_Linuxcan you upgrade safely to firefox 1.0.4??07:02
bob2wing`: then figure out why07:02
bob2wing`: why did you run it as root to begin with?07:02
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bob2SDFH_Linux: not within hoary07:02
wing`because im noob man, its like my 2nd time with linux07:02
SDFH_Linuxit breaks things bob2?07:02
deFryskthe one from backports works fine btw07:03
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IIIEars_wing - Welcome! :)07:03
bob2wing`: so, lesson of the day: don't run random things as root07:03
wing`ok, i wont07:03
bob2SDFH_Linux: only in the sense that the packages aren\t as well tested as those in ubuntu07:03
nickruddeFrysk, I was being generic, which package is worth using?07:03
bob2I'd just get the tarball from mozilla.org, if I really cared07:03
deFrysknickrud, none really , exept for smeg and gcursor07:04
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wing`nice, no error msgs07:04
wing`and it doesnt open07:04
bob2wing`: you might have broken it by running it as root07:04
glickanyone in the philadelphia, USA area07:04
ray_later07:04
nickruddeFrysk, ok you got me. I'll get backports long enough for those :)07:04
wing`ok, ill try to reinstall it07:04
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bob2wing`: that won't help07:04
deFrysknickrud, hehe07:04
bob2wing`: look in your home directory and see if therere are any config files for it07:05
wing`for what?07:05
teimu_does anyone know how to change the default server joined when you start up BitchX07:05
bob2export IRC_SERVER=blah07:06
wing`bob2, configs file for TS?07:06
bob2or just don't use bitchx07:06
Dr_Willisit has some config files yu can make teimu_  also.07:06
bob2wing`: yes07:06
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wing`theres nothing im my home directory07:06
teimu_export IRC_SERVER=irc.freenode.net07:06
wing`in TeamSpeak folder there are lots of files07:06
thoreauputicwing`: you would be looking for a "hidden" file like .ts*  (note dot)07:07
wing`theres a folder .teamspeak207:08
wing`.ts too07:08
TraceHello, when i try to ssh -X james@ip, why can't I contorl remote desktop but just a terminal? just like -x?07:08
thoreauputicwing`: that would be it I think07:08
wing`TeamSpeak.conf07:08
wing`inside07:08
thoreauputicwing`: have a look at those07:08
bob2Trace: that's what -X does07:08
bob2Trace: if you start an X program in that terminal, it will pop up on the machine in front of you07:09
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wing`thoreauputic, just some random char07:10
krittythe sound button on Gnome.... is it a pakage or just a front end for alsa?07:10
thoreauputicwing`: other possibility: check the owner of ~/.Xauthority07:10
Traceoh~~~, thx very much bob2!! i misunderstand it.07:10
bob2Trace: you can use VNC if you want to access the existing desktop07:10
nickrudheh, smeg has changed07:11
TraceActually, i want to try freenx, but with no luck07:11
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wing`thoreauputic,  wheres that file?07:11
thoreauputicwing`: generally speaking you can delete dot files and they will regenerate next time you run the app - of course you lose the configuration and have to start from scratch though07:11
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thoreauputicwing`: your home dir07:12
wing`and if i use the uninstall script07:12
wing`and then install again07:12
IIIEars_tightvnc is an off shhot of vnc works pretty well. even if docs are spartan07:12
vladuz976would someone be so kind and help me out here.  i get permissions problems. i can't access or save anything without sudo anymore07:12
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thoreauputicwing`: as bob2 said, that won't fix your per-user settings07:12
abhayksenlightment on Breezy07:12
abhayksany help ?07:13
frank!wlan07:13
ubotuWish i knew, frank07:13
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frank!wireless07:13
ubotuwireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards07:13
wing`there are lots of characters too07:13
Leviathannubuntu got popular real quick07:13
wing`in xautho07:13
krittyfrank you are having wirelss issues?07:13
frankno07:13
thoreauputicwing`: what does  ls -l .Xauthority  say (run in your home dir) ?07:13
zerboxxIf anyone here can help me with Point2Play, that would be great! I click on "Install" and nothing happens07:13
vladuz976hello, anybody here who can help me out?07:14
bob2isn't point2play proprietary commercial software?07:14
bob2vladuz976: you need to be a lot more specific07:14
deFryskbob2, as in cedega I believe07:14
wing`-rw-------  1 pedro pedro 164 2005-07-21 21:48 .Xauthority07:14
wing`thoreauputic,07:14
vladuz976bob2: i installed oobeta today, now i can't save anything without sudo i can't even view man pages07:14
thoreauputicwing`: OK - that is OK then, assuming you are "pedro" ;)07:15
Leviathannare there any screenshots of stock ubuntu?07:15
wing`yes07:15
wing`i am :P07:15
bob2vladuz976: how did you manage that?07:15
wing`thoreauputic, all this shit beucase i ran it as root?07:15
bob2I assume you ran some messed up chmod or chown07:15
wing`because*07:15
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vladuz976bob2: ok, the only thing that i changed permissions on is "soffice" in /opt/oo/programs/"07:16
vladuz976bob2: vladuz976@coca:~$ man xeyes07:16
vladuz976man: can't create a temporary filename: Permission denied07:16
thoreauputicwing`: hard to say - I don't know TeamSpeak (just trying a few possible gotchas)07:16
vladuz976bob2: i am sure i did07:16
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vladuz976bob2: don't know what else it could be07:17
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mhzmoin!07:17
wing`i always installed it without problems in another distro07:17
vladuz976bob2: is there cure?07:17
wing`but now it just dont execute07:17
TraceHello, does anybody know how to use freenx?07:17
mhzHas anyone know how to enter the BIOS in a Compaq M300???07:17
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thoreauputicwing`: try backing up those config dirs/files in your home dir and rerunning it07:19
thoreauputicwing`: or blow then away07:19
thoreauputic8them07:19
thoreauputicbah "them"07:19
bob2Trace: it's kinda inapproriate to join another's distro channel to ask for help with ubuntu07:19
bob2try asking a freenx-specific channel or list07:19
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wing`its shows TeamSpeak.bin running07:20
wing`in the process list07:20
vladuz976bob2: do you have any idea for me or no?07:20
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thoreauputicwing`: ah, well kill it and try again07:21
bob2vladuz976: unless you can figure out what you did, I don't think it's really possible to fix it07:21
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wing`same thing07:21
wing`its there07:21
bob2strace'ing man would be a good start, but I have other things to do, so you'll have to find someone else to examien that for you07:21
wing`but it doesnt open07:21
bob2good luck07:21
thoreauputicwing`: since you ran it as root you will have to use sudo to kill it07:21
vladuz976bob2: like i said i th ink i ran a messed up chown or chmod07:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYray_ did you uninstall the "new" firefox first?07:21
jasoncohenfirefox 1.0.6 can now be downloaded from backports-staging. it appears to work fine07:21
jasoncohen*installed07:22
wing`im killing using the X interface07:22
bob2vladuz976: so look through your shell history07:22
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wing`and its working07:22
drcodehi all07:22
wing`at least it disappear07:22
vladuz976bob2: how do you do that07:22
drcodehow I can see realplayer movies07:22
drcodein firefox?07:22
nickrudwhat's the standard permission for /tmp, anyway?07:22
drcodeI have download realplayer07:22
dbernar1hi.07:23
jasoncohendrcode, you'll probably want mozilla-mplayer and w32codecs (the latter is in hoary-extras)07:23
nickrudI can never remember07:23
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bob2vladuz976: ctrl-r chmod07:23
thoreauputic$ ls -ld /tmp07:23
thoreauputicdrwxrwxrwt  28 root root 8192 2005-07-22 14:29 /tmp07:23
drcodeI Hve installed it07:23
bob2vladuz976: drwxrwxrwt07:23
nickrudyah, but converting that to a chmod :)07:23
vladuz976bob2: what?07:23
drcodemediaplayer movies work07:23
WMCoolmonhey, i'm trying to get Qt working under Ubuntu, but am getting "undefined reference to `QGList::clear()'" and a number of other, similar errors07:24
liquidtendrcode: if you use mplayer-mozilla and w32codecs make sure that your /etc/mplayerplug-in.conf  has enable-real=107:24
mhzTrace: F10 did the trick :)07:24
wing`how do i list the processes in terminal?07:24
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thoreauputicwing`: ps aux07:24
bahblahblahbahhello07:24
dabaRyo07:24
bahblahblahbaherr can someone help me?07:24
bahblahblahbahi cannot use sudo07:24
liquidtendrcode: then close firefox and do an rm -rf ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat and then restart firefox and test real files07:24
bahblahblahbahit says "azure is not in the sudoers file" or something like that07:24
bob2vladuz976: anyway, good luck07:24
mhzbahblahblahbah: why can't ya07:24
drcodethanx07:25
drcodeI will check it now07:25
bahblahblahbahI can't edit sudoers file either07:25
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah: is this the original/first user you created?07:25
vladuz976bob2: thanks, god bless you07:25
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wing`i think its not running07:26
wing`i cant find it in the list07:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYbob2 how do you use the automatic nick completeion feature?07:26
dabaRis it your computer?07:26
bahblahblahbahthoreauputic: well i reinstalled but since reinstall yes excluding root07:26
thoreauputicwing`: try using  pgrep <command>07:26
vladuz976ChurcH_of_FoamY: TAB07:26
IIIEars_Church, use a comma,07:26
bob2ChurcH_of_FoamY: first couple of letters, then tab07:26
IIIEars_Lol- supposed to work.07:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYok i see07:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYthanx07:27
RLogoutHello07:27
bahblahblahbahHi07:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYhi ^_^07:27
wing`command to start teamspeak?07:27
bahblahblahbahHi07:27
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah: I assume it was a standard install? You didn't use the "expert' option?07:27
bahblahblahbahi did use expert option07:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYwing`,  ./TeamSpeak07:27
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah: that's the problem07:27
bahblahblahbahbecause the CD said the drive would be formatted unless you used "expert"07:27
RLogoutHow are you blabla ?07:27
wing`pgrep ./TeamSpeak ?07:27
bahblahblahbahFine...07:28
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah: you will have to use visudo as root07:28
wing`nothing happens07:28
bahblahblahbahvisudo?07:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYwing`, you must be in the TeamSpeak directory for it to work though07:28
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah: to edit the sudoers file07:28
wing`yes07:28
bahblahblahbahcan you give me the syntax of the function?07:28
wing`i am07:28
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ChurcH_of_FoamYthoreauputic,  hey man whats up?07:28
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah: ?07:28
bahblahblahbahlike how do i use the function..07:28
thoreauputicChurcH_of_FoamY: hi FoamY :)07:28
bahblahblahbahlol and thank you thoreauputic for spelling my name correctly :o07:29
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah: as root, type visudo07:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYthoreauputic, i just got my new sound card in and it rocks07:29
thoreauputicheh07:29
bahblahblahbahI can't logon as root...-.-07:29
ChurcH_of_FoamY^_^07:29
wing`thoreauputic,  after i type ./TeamSpeak that black square keeps blinking and nothing happens07:29
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bahblahblahbahthoreauputic: once my friend made me a siggy and he spelled it blahblahblah XD07:29
mhzHas anyone here ever set up a "pc server" CD drive with ubuntu to make other machines boot from it???07:29
wing`no errros / no starts07:29
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah: you created a root pass in the expert install, presumably07:29
wing`errors07:29
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bahblahblahbahyes07:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYwing`, it takes a moment to run07:30
wing`i waited more than 1 minute07:30
bahblahblahbahthoreauputic: yes07:30
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah: then su ; <password> ; visudo ....07:30
poningruanyone see Asa Doltzers blog?07:30
drcodedosnt work07:30
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ChurcH_of_FoamYwing`, i would start checking for dependancys then07:30
bahblahblahbahdo i include the ";"?07:30
drcodeI try to run stream movie from firefox07:30
worm3rdHi. Could someone tell me how to get the usbnet module installed?07:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYmaybe it's missing something07:30
drcodeit give blackscreen07:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYit works fine for me07:30
bahblahblahbahlol is there always like 5 conversations going on at the same time here?07:31
bahblahblahbaho.O07:31
mhzbahblahblahbah: just in case, the password you are supposed to provide at the sudo prompt is your password, not the root one :)07:31
bob2worm3rd: you already have it installed?07:31
bob2bahblahblahbah: on slow days07:31
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nickrudlol, very slow days07:31
worm3rdbob2: Well, I do not see it in /etc/modules07:31
poningrudrcode: what plugin and what kind of movie?07:31
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah: no, type each on a separate line - are you sure you are "expert" *g* ?07:31
wing`ChurcH_of_FoamY, isnt there any package archive where i just find TeamSpeak and it downloads all its needed and installs it?07:31
bahblahblahbahoh ok07:31
zenlunaticbahblahblahbah: its called irc deal with it07:31
bahblahblahbahthorequputic: thx alot07:31
bahblahblahbahlol...gotcha zenlunatic07:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYwing`, that would be nice woulden't it07:31
thoreauputicmhz: he made a root account and used the expert install07:31
bob2worm3rd: indeed, it's not loaded by default07:31
zenlunaticbahblahblahbah: in a crowded room in a building do a lot of converstations go on?07:31
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drcodemozila-mplayer07:31
worm3rdbob2: ...07:31
mhzthoreauputic: ever set up an ubuntu booting server?07:32
RQehlo07:32
drcodeits on stream movie07:32
mhzthoreauputic: LOL07:32
thoreauputicmhz: nope07:32
drcodeof realplayer07:32
wing`ChurcH_of_FoamY, how can i check the dependancys?07:32
zenlunaticbahblahblahbah: i means seriously what did you expect me to say to such an ubsurd question?07:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYwing`, i noticed that after installing some kde stuff that it seems to work fine07:32
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poningrudrcode: mplayer cannot play realplayer07:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYwing`, ask bob2 he might know07:32
RQhi ppl07:32
nickrudponingru, ?07:32
poningruunless you have the crazy plugin07:32
wing`bob2, ?07:32
bob2worm3rd: if you want it loaded, load it07:32
nickrud?07:32
mhzthoreauputic: I just got an M300 (compaq laptop) and it only boot XP :(07:32
drcodeso what I Need to install?07:32
worm3rdbob2: Yes, but how do I load it? =(07:32
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bob2worm3rd: sudo modprobe usbnet07:32
mhzthoreauputic: but I can set up the BIOS to use PXE07:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYwing`, i just started using this a little while ago but haven't had any trouble07:33
bahblahblahbahdo i do (username) ALL=(ALL) ALL?07:33
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah: yes07:33
poningrunickrud: how else do you play realplayer in mplayer?07:33
mhzthoreauputic: just that I have no clue how to set the ubuntu server for it07:33
wing`:/ i need to install this man07:33
zenlunaticbahblahblahbah: i think thats a sudoers line07:33
bob2bahblahblahbah: rob     ALL=(ALL) ALL07:33
zenlunaticbahblahblahbah: /etc/sudoers07:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYwing`, don't get discouraged man it will work07:33
nickrudponingru, I just never thought of it as the 'crazy' plugin07:33
bahblahblahbahrob? my username definitely isn't rob07:33
poningruoh07:33
bob2wing`: 'need" is a little strong.  how did you install it to begin with?07:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYwing`, you just have to be patent and figure it out07:34
bob2bahblahblahbah: duh, use yours...07:34
poningruwell its not in any repositories07:34
zenlunaticbahblahblahbah: duh! substitute it07:34
zenlunaticbob2: heh07:34
poningrudont you have to compile it yourself?07:34
wing`bob2, i just ran setup.sh07:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYwing`, i use it and it works better than in windows and i run my own server with my own linux group to discuss ideas07:34
nickrudponingru, now, you make me go try realplayer streams with mozilla-mplayer, so I can refresh my memory :)07:34
bob2wing`: it has no instructions?07:35
wing`no, its done by a friendly graphic interface07:35
wing`just next, next, next, finish07:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYbob2, yea it does i'll help him install it07:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYwing`, ok here's how you install it07:36
bahblahblahbahznelunatic/bob2: yah i know...-.-07:36
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bahblahblahbahso how do i exit after i'm done modifying?07:36
ChurcH_of_FoamYwing`, where did you download it"?07:36
vladuz976bob2: i found all chmod and chown in history, can you take a look at it. it's not that  much07:36
wing`at goteamspeak.com07:36
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poningrunickrud: let me know how it works out07:36
poningruwait how did that get started07:36
poningruwas I supposed to help someone?07:36
zenlunaticbahblahblahbah: man vi man emacs man nano07:36
nickrudmplayer plays my real media on my disk, anyway, first test07:36
vladuz976or anyone else feel like looking at this? http://rafb.net/paste/results/AvV6AS93.html07:36
zenlunaticbahblahblahbah: man editor07:36
bob2zenlunatic: thats not very helpful07:37
bahblahblahbahman editor?07:37
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah:  :wq  in vi (which is what visudo is)07:37
zenlunaticbahblahblahbah: what editor07:37
poningrunickrud: do you have official realplayer installed?07:37
bahblahblahbahinside the terminal07:37
bahblahblahbahi'm using visudo07:37
zenlunaticbob2: well we can't possibly tell him everything07:37
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bob2zenlunatic: sure, but you don't need to give people confusing and unhelpful comments, either07:37
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah: visudo is vi (surprisingly enough)07:37
zenlunaticbob2: how is man unhelpful?07:37
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nickrudponingru, of course07:38
bob2zenlunatic: so, where in the vi man page does it explain how to save and quit?07:38
poningruoh well I am talking about the hacked lib07:38
zenlunaticbob2: don't know don't use vi actually07:38
bob2zenlunatic: or are you suggesting that someone should read all three man pages you mentioned, then all linked documentation?07:38
IIIEars_#debian is the RTFM channekl Ubuntu tries to be friendlier07:38
nickrudponingru, ah, a purist, you are :)07:38
bahblahblahbahbob2: how do i save and quit?07:38
poningruhehe not really07:38
bob2bahblahblahbah: :wq07:39
poningruI have the official realplayer as well07:39
bahblahblahbahthoreauputic: visudo is vi?07:39
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah: i told you07:39
zenlunaticbob2: i like mg myself07:39
bahblahblahbah:wq...ok07:39
bahblahblahbahthx07:39
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah: of course07:39
poningrujust wondering if someone uses the 'free' one07:39
bob2IIIEars_: do you think it's bad to point someone at documentation instead of typign out the same answer 20 times a day?07:39
IIIEars_blahblah, - :wq  colon w-rite q-uit07:39
zenlunaticbob2: my point its better to teach a man how to fish then give him free fish for a day07:40
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IIIEars_bob2 - type it until ya get tired and pass the baton. - ;)07:40
k4rp0rhow can i change my port in bittornado (using ubuntu)07:40
mhzhmm, ANY one ever installed Ubuntu from HardDisk?07:40
poningrumhz: what do you mean?07:40
bob2zenlunatic: indeed, and I agree, but the docs you pointed at where a) mostly not relevant, and b) didn't have his/her answer anyway07:40
mhzponingru: I have laptop with no cd boot nor floppy boot07:40
bob2k4rp0r: it takes two flags for that, --max-port and --min-port07:40
poningruooph07:41
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poningrumhz: you have not drives?07:41
vladuz976so no one can look at this 20 line paste and help me out?07:41
zenlunaticbob2: well theres so many vi clones its hard to point to existing docs07:41
mhzponingru: so my options are netboot or hardisk boot07:41
poningrudo you have usb port?07:41
zenlunaticbob2: why i don't use vi07:41
cartmananyone knows where did setxkbmap gone in breezy?07:41
bob2zenlunatic: no, there's a very few, and they all have the same basic command set07:41
IIIEars_bob2 - didn't think it would come across quite that way bob2. - you are invaluable here.07:41
cartmandaniels: maybe you know :D07:41
mhzponingru: netboot will take me lot to learn before I can even test the lapop with ubuntu07:41
bob2IIIEars_: I was just curious about that you thought07:41
mhzponingru: yes, 1 USB port07:42
bob2IIIEars_: I personally think it's fine to (politely) tell someone to RTFM, as long as you point them at actually useful docs07:42
bahblahblahbahi typed :wq then pressed enter...nothing -.-07:42
bimberierm... visudo runs nano on my hoary install07:42
mhzponingru: I already set the bios to acept USB boot but it does not boot07:42
bahblahblahbaham i just an idiot who can't even do idiot-proff stuff?07:42
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah: hit <esc> first07:42
k4rp0rbob2:ok but how can i change them???07:42
poningrumhz: did you use a flash drive?07:42
bob2bahblahblahbah: does it have a list of commands at the bottom of the screen?07:42
danielscartman: right now, it doesn't exist07:42
poningruor an external floppy?07:42
bahblahblahbahyes07:42
danielscartman: it'll come back after I've fixed some more urgent breakage07:42
bob2k4rp0r: by passing those flags to bittornado07:42
bahblahblahbahall beginning with ^07:42
thoreauputicbahblahblahbah: you aren't in command mode is the problem07:42
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bimberibahblahblahbah: <ctrl>X07:43
nickrudbimberi, it will until you do update-alternatives --config editor07:43
bahblahblahbahoh07:43
bahblahblahbah-.-07:43
RQbahblahblahbah: <esc> :wq07:43
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mhzponingru: no flash drive here, someone broke into my house a week ago and took many stuff with him07:43
cartmandaniels: alright07:43
bahblahblahbah:X sorry07:43
bahblahblahbahreally sorry07:43
bahblahblahbahi'm so stupid -.-07:43
IIIEars_bob2 - RTFM is rude a link is a bit friendlier.07:43
bimberinickrud: tks :)07:43
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kritty!wlan07:43
ubotukritty: Wish i knew07:43
RQbahblahblahbah: there should be no ":wq" in the file07:43
RQ;] 07:43
mhzponingru: I do have 1 USB CD drive and 1 USB CDRW07:43
kritty!wireless07:43
uboturumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards07:43
bob2IIIEars_: I mean RTFM in the sense of "go read wiki.ubuntu.com/Java", for instance07:43
OrbordeIf I extract a package using RPM, will Synaptic be able to handle it? In short, can I use RPMs easily on Ubuntu?07:44
IIIEars_ubotu You are going to be a genius soon.07:44
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, IIIEars_07:44
bob2IIIEars_: would you consider it rude if you asked how to install java, and someone just gave you that url?07:44
bob2Orborde: nope07:44
vladuz976bob2: ??07:44
mhzponingru: but I still cant make it boot from any of those USB drives07:44
thoreauputicbimberi: he's in vi, not nano07:44
bob2vladuz976: !!07:44
poningruhmm yeah you probably wont be able to from the drives07:44
bob2vladuz976: you're being annoying, if you want someone to look at your list, put it somewhere simple and ask07:44
mhzponingru: hence my questions about making Ubuntu boot and install from Harddisk07:44
poningrumhz: yeah ic07:44
poningruI have no clue about that though07:45
poningrusorry07:45
mhzthx07:45
bahblahblahbahYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:45
bahblahblahbahSUCESS!!!!!07:45
IIIEars_(beginning to think i am in deep doo-doo...) - um - a little friendly interest a bit of investigating to make certain the real problem is understood and then a link.07:45
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bimberithoreauputic: k - just pointing out that in my, basically unmodified, install visudo runs nano07:45
bahblahblahbahthank you all!!!07:45
mhzit seems I m forced to learn about netboot :(  I like the idea but not tonite.07:45
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bob2IIIEars_: right, that sounds highly reasonable, thanks07:46
thoreauputicbimberi: oh - odd07:46
nickrudIIIEars_, me, I appreciate your efforts to train the bot07:46
vladuz976bob2: i am frustrated sorry, also i put it in a pastebin here : http://rafb.net/paste/results/AvV6AS93.html07:46
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thoreauputicbimberi: ah - so it does! It used to run vi in warty07:47
IIIEars_cafuego - Is the genius. ever tried to configure an infobot? - sheesh...07:47
bogaany one know a goo GUI based intrusion detection package for Linux?07:47
highvolt1gea goo GUI?07:47
nickrudno, but I've added a bit here and there to the db07:47
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RQhighvolt1ge: he means "good" :)07:48
bob2vladuz976: none of those look dangerous07:48
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vladuz976bob2: that is what i thought07:48
krittyI have a D-ling G520+ that seems to sleep if I don't ping my router.  Anyone know how to fix it?07:48
bob2you wouldn't want a GUI-based intrusion detection program07:48
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bob2perhaps a GUI configration tool for it07:48
bob2or a GUI results viewer07:48
nickrudthoreauputic, although, you would figure ..07:48
vladuz976bob2: anyother idea?07:48
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thoreauputicnickrud: indeed07:48
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IIIEars_bob2 - giant flashing black and white skull and crossbones with bold text. "You are being hacked at this very moment.07:49
nickrudit's age catching up with this os, I guess :)07:49
Stramashi just installed ubuntu yesterday. smbmount - command not found ?? smbclient works and i can see windows shares in network browser07:49
bimberi:)07:49
bob2Stramash: smbfs is the package, iirc07:50
bob2Stramash: http://packages.ubuntu.com/07:50
IIIEars_no? - okay just a thought.. - lol07:50
DiscipulusAny of you ever play God of War?07:50
Stramashthanks bob207:50
cartmanAnyone got Linksys WPC54G (Ver.2) wireless pcmcia on Ubuntu?07:50
cartmangot working*07:50
IIIEars_ach! - wine is difficult. :(07:51
thoreauputicfor any aterm fans out there who want a utf-8 compatible term with similar features: urxvt in the rxvt-unicode package07:51
krittyI have a D-link G520+ that seems to sleep if I don't ping my router.  Anyone know how to fix it?  I guess I could write a script to run on start-up to do it but I would like to fix it right07:51
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RQthere's a gterm, which even uses gtk2 ;)07:53
thoreauputicIIIEars_: but gin is worse ;)07:53
thoreauputicRQ: which package is that from? or do you mean gnome-terminal ?07:54
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nekohayoanyone concerned with audacity's current GUI?07:54
tkieselHi everyone. Got an odd web browser issue here.  Rendering bug. On some pages, text in user-editable fields is invisible, but will show up if I choose to view the page without style (CSS-less, I suppose?)  On Hoary. This affects Gecko-based browsers (Firefox, Epiphany) and Opera as well.07:54
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RQthoreauputic: yeah07:55
RQgnome-terminal, right ;)07:55
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RQthere's also an Xterminal07:55
RQfrom xfce07:55
bob2tkiesel: that sounds more like the page is screwed07:55
RQbeautiful thingie :)07:55
nickrudtkiesel, I remember having that problem, and if i recall correctly, I needed to change the monospace font07:55
thoreauputicRQ: the reason for using aterm/ urxvt is that it is lighter and pops up faster07:55
tkieselWorks wonderfully in Firefox on windows, so it's not a standards compliance one, though perhaps it's a Windows FF vs. Linux FF non-standards rendering issue?07:55
RQthechitowncubs: Xterminal is fast too ;)07:56
mhzponingru: what if I had a USB SD card reader?? would it boot from it?07:56
tkieselbob2: I've ruled that out pretty thouroghly with cross borwser/ cross-OS checking.07:56
RQand it respects your GTK themes07:56
tkieselnickrud: I'll give that a shot here. :)  Any suggestion of what to change it to?07:56
bob2tkiesel: didn't you just say it affects opera and gecko?07:56
RQthechitowncubs: btw i doubt Gnome-terminal is slow on a gnome system07:56
RQthe libs are already loaded anyways07:57
tkieselbob2: Opera and Gecko on Hoary, but not Opera, Gecko, IE, Amaya, etc. on Windows.07:57
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WMCoolmonhey07:58
nickrudtkiesel, I didn't take notes, so it may take me a day or so to remember it07:59
bahblahblahbahhi07:59
WMCoolmonanyone know how to get wxwidgets (or qt, i suppose) working with ubuntu?07:59
thoreauputic_aterm/ urxvt start up instantly on gnome: gnome-terminal takes 3 seconds on  my system07:59
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bob2WMCoolmon: you'll need to be a bit more specific07:59
tkieselnickrud: No problem. Gives me somewhere to start. Thanks so much!!07:59
bob2anything in ubuntu that uses them Depends on them, and they Just Work07:59
nickrudbut I am sure it was a font problem somewhere07:59
WMCoolmonwell, i installed the 2.5.3 library and 2.5.3-dev library08:00
WMCoolmonbut it's giving a lot of undefined errors08:00
bob2WMCoolmon: what is?08:00
WMCoolmoni suspect that's because i don't have a setup.h, but haven't found instructions on getting one setup O_o08:00
ChurcH_of_FoamYbob2, where do i go to wright a how to or a wiki?08:00
bob2also, note that you can't do silly thing like use a non-default version of g++08:00
WMCoolmoncompiling a simple app08:00
bob2WMCoolmon: on hoary?08:00
WMCoolmonyep08:00
bob2ChurcH_of_FoamY: wiki.ubuntu.com08:00
WMCoolmonHoary-AMD6408:00
bob2WMCoolmon: with the default version of g++?08:00
WMCoolmonif that's g++-3.3, yeah08:01
IIIEars_kritty - ping script http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=339395 if [ $(ping -c 4 $HOSTNAME | grep ^rtt | cut -d '/' -f 5 | tr -d '.') -lt 200 ] ; then echo fast; else echo slow; fi08:02
bob2WMCoolmon: paste the error from g++ to #flood08:02
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hacked`guys, how do i set my root passwd again08:03
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bob2hacked`: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:03
hacked`k08:03
bob2which is linked fro mthe FAQ08:03
hacked`thanks bob208:03
bob2WMCoolmon: you have wx2.5-headers installed?08:03
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glickwhat does BOFH stand for?08:04
WMCoolmonbob2: yeah08:04
timlbastard operator from hell08:04
fabbioneBastart Operator From Hell08:04
WMCoolmonthe output's sort of long, so i'm gonna upload it08:04
thoreauputicglick: bastard operator from hell08:04
glicklol08:04
glickhaha08:04
glickok08:04
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tiglionabbitsay, is it possible to pre-order Breezy CDs?08:05
ChurcH_of_FoamYbob2 i want to wright a howto where do i go? the wiki pages don't seem to be the right place08:05
nickrudglick, that's you, as soon as you run someone else's machine08:05
bob2ChurcH_of_FoamY: why not?08:05
bob2tiglionabbit: not yet08:05
IIIEars_lol - software is like sex it's better if it is free. -08:05
benplauttiglionabbit: not yet, but a month or so before the release, yup08:05
tiglionabbitChurcH_of_FoamY, you could write one on the forums.  They have a customization tips section08:05
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bob2tiglionabbit: for hoary, orders in the last few weeks before hoary came out where held back08:05
WMCoolmonbob2: http://fs2source.warpcore.org/out.txt08:06
bob2please don't use the forums for that08:06
BurgundaviaChurcH_of_FoamY, the wiki is the right place for a howto08:06
ChurcH_of_FoamYbob2 um cuase i can't find where to wright it08:06
tiglionabbitbob2: held back?08:06
Raskall-edgeagh... my new cellphone is unusable as an alarm clock. Woke up 90 minutes after the alarm went off. That was 10 minutes before the last bus I cant take to reach a train before the train stops going for 4 hours.08:06
benplauti'll take it :)08:06
RQRaskall: :))08:06
coobrahoi my ubuntu friends :))08:06
benplauthi08:06
nickrudhey08:06
bob2tiglionabbit: until hoary released, then they shipped hoary ones as soon as they were available08:06
tim_ive edited my xorg.conf to only display 1280x1024, but it keeps on forcing it to 1280x768. anyone have any ideas on a solution?08:07
bob2ChurcH_of_FoamY: wiki.ubuntu.com/YourHowtoHere, then choose "create"08:07
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bob2WMCoolmon: http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/2005/03/msg00109.html08:07
Raskall-edgeRQ: luckily I can work from the train (am on the train now), so I can go home at the usual time anyways.08:07
nickrudbob2, if someone wanted to point out some mods to a current wiki, where would he start?08:08
RQhmz08:08
RQRaskall: why can't you work at home then? :)08:08
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bob2nickrud: as in modify it themselves?  just login and start editing!08:08
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Raskall-edgeRQ: :) because the people at work needs me to be there. I am sysadmin and techie-support.08:08
RQoh... :)08:09
nickrudhaha. I believe it getting my stuff reviewed before acceptance08:09
Raskall-edgeRQ: that is support for the techies08:09
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nickrudbob2, but, I guess, it'll get cut if it sucks, so here goes :)08:11
Raskall-edgebtw, how can i set the timeout for bringing up nics during boot? When I am offline it takes forever to boot.08:11
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MarandaThis is an absurdly awesome distro.08:12
RQhmm08:12
IIIEars_Raskall-edge - hoping someone has an answer. was wondering the same thing.08:13
stian_what was the dpkg command to install all dependecyes ?08:13
IIIEars_Maranda - Welcome! :)08:13
bob2dhcp will only wait 20 seconds08:13
Raskall-edgeIIIEars_: you can press ctrl-c, but then the lo interface doesn't get up and I need that for ssh-tunneling when connected with my cell08:14
bob2and it's only that long because some broken dhcp servers take forever08:14
bob2stian_: that's not what dpkg is for08:14
RQIIIEars_, Raskall:  maybe that could go to some wishlist on ubuntu08:14
MarandaDon't get excited, this is my girlfriend's nick.08:14
thoreauputicstian_: dpkg? I think you need apt-get08:14
stian_the distro is stunning good. Installed it yesterday:)08:14
MarandaI'm male.08:14
nickrudstian_, apt-get install <package> will get all needed depenencies for <package>08:14
RQi suppose it shouldn't be hard to put the that to the background08:14
tiglionabbitdoes he mean dpkg -f install ?08:14
stian_tiglionabbit: oh yes..08:15
Raskall-edgeRQ: it is not a big problem for me, though. I press ctrl-c and does "ifup lo" when booted. but still its annoying08:15
RQOTOH, some other scripts probably depend on the state of network08:15
MrGardenHoseManhwo do i unrar .rar files?08:15
MrGardenHoseManhow*08:15
La_PaRCa!rar08:15
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, La_PaRCa08:15
bob2MrGardenHoseMan: with the "unrar" command08:15
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MarandaAnyway, question. I have an atheros car, and I did iwconfig ath0 essid, and then my ssid.08:15
MrGardenHoseManheh08:15
bob2MrGardenHoseMan: from the unrar package08:15
MarandaYet no connection.08:15
Raskall-edgeMrGardenHoseMan: you install unrar and unrar it.08:15
La_PaRCaI thought rar was defined here08:15
RQRaskall: one of the possible and possibly broken solutions is to rename the scripts so that they go last :)08:15
MrGardenHoseManthanks08:15
bob2if the file is recent, you may need unrar-nonfree08:15
stian_install the winrar linux console program if you want to do it on new .rar files.08:15
tiglionabbitMrGardenHoseMan, you should be able to do it with file-roller, which launches automatically if you double-click on em.  You may need unrar-nonfree for some rars08:16
tiglionabbitstian_, why not just unrar-nonfree?08:16
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MarandaCan I have help?08:16
MarandaATheros card, recognized, i slapped my ssid into it, still no connection.08:17
stian_tiglionabbit: it doesnt work on the new rar files. I think.08:17
tkieselnickrud: Thanks. Issue was with rendering of a certain font on my system it seems. Changed a little CSS to utilize a different font, and pow! It's visible again. Thanks a ton!08:17
bob2Maranda: your AP has no wep or wpa?  other systems work? does it associate?08:17
thoreauputicMaranda: patience, Grasshopper08:17
bob2is it mac-locked?08:17
bob2did you ask for an ip?08:17
MarandaNo wep, locks, encryption.08:17
MarandaHow do I ask for an IP?08:18
nickrudtkiesel, np08:18
bob2Maranda: sudo dhclient ath008:18
MarandaOkay.08:18
bob2Maranda: use 'iwconfig ath0' to see if it's associated or not, first08:18
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MarandaWhat would it look like if it's associated?08:18
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bob2eth1      IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:"fnord"  Nickname:"ipw2100"08:19
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MarandaFnord. ovely.08:19
hacked`guys, how can i know which wireless card i have (and the wireless driver loaded) in ubuntu ?08:19
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bob2you can't, in general08:20
Raskall-edgeRQ: then I get trouble when on a net.08:20
bob2looking at the output of dmesg is a start08:20
hacked`i know about dmesg08:20
bob2and "lspci"08:20
hacked`but i dont know what to look for08:20
bob2and then "lsmod"08:20
RQRaskall: but then it boots faster ;)08:20
Raskall-edgeRQ: true. but I rather ctrl-c and ifup lo08:21
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nickrudhacked`, try figure out what chipset your wireless uses, then use the comands that bob2 just gave you (generic advice)08:21
MarandaHacked: Device manager?08:22
hacked`k08:23
nickrudah, the gui choice :)08:23
WMCoolmonbo2: getting this now... http://fs2source.warpcore.org/out.txt08:23
MarandaI just migrated from windows08:23
WMCoolmon*bob208:23
MarandaI flew in. Wings are tired.08:23
nickrudMaranda, and not bad advice :)08:23
MarandaThanks.08:24
MarandaNo DHCPOFFERS recieved!08:24
MarandaWhy?08:24
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bob2Maranda: show us the first line of your iwconfig output08:25
MarandaIEEE: 802.11 ESSID: "04Z412506093"08:26
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coobraa08:27
coobraopps08:27
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bob2and the second line?08:27
konkianyone knows why my OS can't seem to detect my USB cd burner??08:27
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Dr_Willisplug it in/remove/plug it back. and check dmesg output08:28
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MarandaMode:Managed Frequency:2.417 GHz Access Point: FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF08:29
bob2that looks wrong08:29
fabbioneyeah08:29
bob2WMCoolmon: sounds like a missing include08:30
fabbioneit's not binding to the AP08:30
bob2hm, I guess drivers don't uniformly display "unassociated" when unassociated08:30
MarandaSo what do I do?08:31
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MarandaWhen I type ifup ath0, it gives me some unknown interface BS08:31
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bob2er08:32
bob2is it mentioned in /etc/network/interfaces?08:32
bob2if not, ifup's not expected to do anythign at all08:32
MarandaLet me check.08:33
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shad0wdoes anyone know anything about hula here08:34
WMCoolmonbob2: command line is (gcc helloworld.cpp -I "/usr/lib/wx/include/base-2.4/")08:34
Madpilotevening everyone08:34
coobrashad0w:  yeah it rocks :P08:34
jbluHi all, I'm wondering if anyone has install F-PROT on G4 Mac ppc ubuntu Hoary?08:34
nickrudMadpilot, just what timezone are you in, anyway08:34
MarandaThere is a "map ath0" in interfaces, bob.08:34
coobrashad0w:  Novells08:34
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bob2jblu: you're scanning email for windows users or such?08:35
Madpilotnickrud: Pacific Daylight. it's 2335 local08:35
fr500hello08:35
bob2Maranda: that's the only mention of it?08:35
konkiDr_Willis, ok! it says waiting for device to settle, HP        Model: CD-Writer+ 8200e  Rev: 000108:35
fr500what do you think of enlightment?08:35
nickrudevening is pushing it, then ;)08:35
jblujust a general virus scanner is what I want08:35
Madpilotnickrud: guess so ;)08:35
shad0wcoobra can u help me in pm08:35
MarandaYes.08:35
bob2jblu: you don't need one for your ubuntu machine08:35
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Dr_Williskonki,  it should be mentiunng a sd# for the drive.. or similer.. and ubuntu/gnome is normally good about  seeing/auto mounting things.08:35
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coobrabhha08:36
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shad0wo.o08:36
jbluwhy not? :)08:36
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MadpilotLinux can't get viruses, basically08:36
bob2jblu: because there are about 3 linux viruses08:36
coobrashad0w:  im on hollyday :P08:36
Dr_Willissecurity by design. :P08:36
bob2jblu: and you won't get them as long as you stay up to date with security fixes, and don't run non-ubuntu software08:36
shad0w-_-08:36
MarandaWhat are they and how do they work?08:36
coobrashad0w:  a bit not sober08:36
shad0wlol08:37
nnonixAnyone have a solution to the known problem of Firestarter blocking google?08:37
jbluok , good to know, thanks.  Now how about an easy firewall advice?08:37
nickrudsecurity cuz we still, fundamentally, are not the targets of script kiddies08:37
fr500jblu, firestarter=easy08:37
bob2jblu: you don't need one of those by default, either08:37
thoreauputicjblu: firestarter08:37
bob2nickrud: hack into my laptop then08:37
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jbluI'd like to know when I'm portscanned08:37
thoreauputicjblu: only if you run services08:37
nickrudlol, not a clue how to start, cuz I never will08:38
Madpilotfirestarter blocks Google? not on my machine, in either FF or Opera...08:38
coobrai hawe a old sony vaio here :P08:38
thoreauputicnnonix: if firestarter is blocking google, you have a configuration problem08:38
jbluBTW ubuntu is pretty cool, and I unintalled OS X Tiger to use it :-)08:39
MarandaAnyway, bob, "map ath0" is the only mention.08:39
MarandaIn interfaces.08:39
nickrudbob2, I would need some good scripts, I would think08:39
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MarandaLet08:39
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IIIEars_jblu - gotta love the 16,000+ free apps. - grin08:39
RQhahahah :D08:39
RQsure08:39
RQwhen they don't crash :D08:39
bob2nickrud: how could you possibly get in?  all I have publically avilable is ssh, and I bet you can't guess my password.08:40
MarandaLet's not hack anyone. We're big kids who can use our programming skills for the greater good of mankind, right?08:40
topawould you ever think of doing a dual-boot machine?08:40
RQlike cfdisk does for me08:40
bob2nickrud: also, it will block your ip if you guess wrong more than a few times08:40
nnonixMadpilot / thoreauputic: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4123808:40
jbluI wanted my freedom back :)08:40
robotgeekjblu, same here!08:40
RQanyone wanna confirm that? try running cfdisk in breezy08:40
bob2Maranda: well, it's not associating,m anyway, so assigning ips and whatever won't help08:40
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thoreauputicnnonix: OK looking...08:40
nickrudbob2, I trust that you do set up your machine safely, far more than mine. Of course, I don't even run ssh externally ...08:40
MarandaSo what do I do?08:40
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nnonixMadpilot: It didn't for me either then today it just started ... with absolutely no config changes on my part. I woke up and google wouldn't load .... it did when I went to bed.08:41
bob2nickrud: right, and a default ubuntu is basically invulnerable to anythong other than social engineering08:41
Nameeaterbreezy is beta, do you really expect everything to run?08:41
MarandaHa. I'm so safe that I don't even know what SSH is!08:41
Madpilotnnonix: interesting reading. Firestarter "just works" for me...08:41
bob2Maranda: I'm not sure what the problem is08:41
bob2Maranda: perhaps the driver for your card is buggy08:41
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nnonixthoreauputic: Its the default config with the single exception of allowing inbound SSH which was added months ago.08:41
IIIEars_lol - SSH - is what a librarian tells a noisy patron?08:41
RQNameeater: i don't. but  I think if it crashes not only for me, it's worth reporting a bug. isn't that what betas are for?08:41
jblunow if I can figure out how to mount an iso make a disk image and burn a cd. lol08:41
robotgeektiger wudn't install without ubuntu getting remove. *Middle* finger to OS X08:41
MarandaIt's madwifi08:41
bob2Maranda: youre sure other machines can work with the AP fine?08:41
nickrudbob2, you have permission to scan my machine, if you want the ip, I run basic ubuntu without a firewall. I do agree with you.08:42
MarandaYeah, three of them.08:42
RQjblu: moun it with -oloop08:42
bob2jblu: you want to burn some files from your hard disk to a cd?08:42
NameeaterRQ: ah right, thought your crashing comment followed the "if it doesnt' crash" comment x)08:42
nnonixMadpilot: I would have said the same ... until today08:42
bob2nickrud: hah, ok08:42
jbluyes08:42
RQNameeater: it does ;)08:42
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Nameeaterbah! :p08:42
bob2jblu: just insert a blank cd, then drage files to the window that pops up08:42
RQjblu: try k3b or Graveman!08:42
MarandaSO how do I associate ath0?08:42
bob2jblu: then select "write to disk" from the file menu, and go make a cup of tea08:42
RQor gnomebaker08:42
nickrudof course, I did have to set my imap server to listen locally08:43
konkiDr_Willis, are there any drivers availible for linux/ubuntu hardwares?08:43
bob2Maranda: setting the essid should be enough08:43
jbluthat's it! very cool!08:43
bob2Maranda: you're sure you're in range and whatever?08:43
MarandaI did. Strange.08:43
MarandaANd yes.08:43
RQNameeater: bah ;D08:43
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jblubut what about a bootable OS CD08:43
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konkiDr_Willis, or a list of supported hardwares...08:43
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bob2jblu: when you download the image of it? right click on it and select "write to cd08:44
jblujust the iso?08:44
stian_do I remove any packages when i remove the dvd from sources.list?08:44
jbluno mounting it to a "disk image"?08:44
bob2jblu: correct08:44
RQstian_: no08:45
stian_RQ: okey08:45
jbluthanks:)08:45
RQwhat's installed, is installed08:45
stian_:)08:45
RQdon't forget to apt-get update after that08:45
stian_already done..08:45
RQok ;)08:45
Madpilotnnonix: sounds like it's a moderately common problem, too08:45
RQbtw. Ubuntu does automount CD's and floppies, right?08:46
bob2RQ: cds, yes08:46
nnonixthoreauputic, so anyway ... I can see in the event log that its blocking the return traffic to my web request on random ports around 3300 .... what's interesting is many other sites return on similar ports and are not blocked. Since it is only google, a configuration problem would have to reference an IP address or a google entry. I have no such configuration.08:46
bob2floppies, no, since floppy drives don't tell anyone when you plug things in08:46
bob2(in general)(08:46
MarandaHow does one turn on DCHP?08:46
nnonixMadpilot, yes ... and at least for now, its only ppl on Ubuntu08:46
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RQbob2: well, on mac they do, somehow ;)08:46
bob2RQ: mac floppy drives are special08:46
jbluwe all need to donate if we can.  This is a terrific OS:)08:46
bob2Maranda: on the AP?08:47
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RQk...08:47
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nnonixMadpilot,  ... or at least I couldn't find anything about it anywhere but the Ubuntu Forums08:47
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Maranda....Uh. Sure?08:47
Zero[cool] ANyone can help me...08:47
Zero[cool] hey....08:47
thoreauputicnnonix: sorry I wa just reading the thread - seems like it is Ubuntu specific, but it's a mystery...08:47
Zero[cool] Linux Users....08:47
RQbob2: cuz i'm thinking of installing ubuntu on my mom's future laptop. So it should automount things.08:47
MadpilotZero[cool] : best to just ask your questions08:47
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RQbut well.... CD's are enough, probably.08:47
IIIEars_Nah "Windows users" - "Linux community"08:48
Zero[cool] ok ok ....08:48
nickrudZero[cool] , did we miss the question?08:48
bob2RQ: there's nothing the kernel can do on intel hardware, unfortunately08:48
RQif she can go to "my computer" and floppy is mountable there.08:48
bob2aside from things like supermount08:48
RQthen it's just OK.08:48
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Zero[cool] can Ubunto linuix.. automatically Probe your Modem after installation and ready to go for the NET ?08:48
Zero[cool] can Ubunto linuix.. automatically Probe your Modem after installation and ready to go for the NET ?08:48
nnonixthoreauputic, yes, it does08:48
bob2Zero[cool] : sort of, there's a short guide on the wiki that explains it08:48
Zero[cool] Wow...08:48
nnonixthoreauputic, and it is08:48
nickrudZero[cool] , hard question08:48
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Zero[cool] ok...08:48
Zero[cool] lolz :)08:49
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Zero[cool] sori... for that kind of Qustion...08:49
thoreauputicnnonix: I run firestarter here without *any* issues08:49
jbluWhat installations of apps do I have to reboot afterward, like on a Mac? Anything?08:49
bob2jblu: none08:49
Zero[cool] ammm... another thing...08:49
thoreauputicjblu: only new kernels08:49
Zero[cool] can it support dual booting ??08:49
nickrudZero[cool] , the best answer we can give, is get an external modem, on a cable, they always work :)08:49
jblucool again08:49
bob2Zero[cool] : sure08:50
RQZero[cool] : sure it does08:50
nnonixthoreauputic, I did to, until this morning. Was working last night when I went to bed and wasn't this morning when I woke up. I didn't do anything to my machine but browse for several days.08:50
jbluMy third day, and loving it:)08:50
bob2Zero[cool] : it will set that up for you automatically08:50
RQyeah08:50
Zero[cool] ahhh.... okies...08:50
Zero[cool] ammm....08:50
nnonixthoreauputic, so ... your clock is ticking :)08:50
RQi have "Microsoft Windows XP" in my boot menu08:50
RQeverything automatically08:50
thoreauputicnnonix: hmm... /me checks google08:50
MadpilotZero[cool] : even the LiveCD should find your internet connection...08:50
Zero[cool] can u give me some link/ Site that contains Ubuntu Tutorials From Administration to Reg USer08:50
Zero[cool] can u give me some link/ Site that contains Ubuntu Tutorials From Administration to Reg USer08:50
rover_danhi all. my X is dead after update to breezy. the error message: could not open default font 'fixed'. i had read the FAQ of Xorg,checked some information from the ubuntu forum and then tried to change the lines in xorg.font from:  /usr/Share/X11/fonts/* to :/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/* , but it didn't work. any help?08:50
RQZero[cool] : tried ubuntu.com?08:51
RQrover_dan: that's intended08:51
RQ;)08:51
bob2Zero[cool] : you don't need to repeat things like that, or use random capitalisation08:51
nnonixthoreauputic, I may try un/reinstalling firestarter.08:51
bob2Zero[cool] : wiki.ubuntu.com has lots of documentation08:51
thoreauputicnnonix: so far so good - google pops up fine...08:51
coobrato much shity music on mtv08:51
nnonixtick tick tick08:51
rover_danRQ, what are u meaning?08:51
Zero[cool] tnx bob...08:51
RQrover_dan: X is broken in breezy for now. ;)08:51
coobraopps wrong08:51
rover_dan...08:51
benplauteek! a crocadile!08:51
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RQrover_dan: daniels said he would hopefully fix it by the end of this week08:52
timlrover_dan: you need a copy of mkfontdir and then a dpkg-reconfigure08:52
timlI found this worked for me08:52
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RQso you just have to wait for a few days until it becomes OK. or try the workarounds08:52
nickrudtiml, is the same problem from a month ago?08:52
nnonixthoreauputic, are you on Breezy yet?08:52
rover_dantiml, where can i check out the mkfontdir?08:52
nickrudor more?08:52
timlnickrud: I'm really not sure08:52
RQtiml: where fo you get mkfontdir from? ;] 08:52
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thoreauputicnnonix: no, Hoary here08:52
timlwell I grabbed mine off a different system which still had it08:53
RQhmm...08:53
nnonixthoreauputic, me too08:53
timlI can put up a binary if people are willing to trust it08:53
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RQtiml: yes, please :)08:53
RQi'd wget it to my breezy :D08:53
nickrudtiml, that sounds like what I did to fix brezzy a while ago, I cannot beleve it's the same thing still08:53
devnullwhere can i find older versions of gcc in deb format ?08:53
timlwww.cse.unsw.edu.au/~timl/ubuntu/mkfontdir08:54
RQnickrud: Xorg packages are being reorganized08:54
rover_dantiml, thx08:54
timlput that as /usr/bin/mkfontdir08:54
sandyeggoboyhello, i would like to know if its possible to login to my comuter via VNC or some other way of remotedly administering my computer?08:54
RQtiml: ok thanks :)08:54
timlthen dpkg-reconfigure the xfonts packages08:54
timlas I said, this worked for me a few days ago, let me know how it goes08:54
bob2sandyeggoboy: of course08:54
thoreauputicsandyeggoboy: sure, use ssh08:54
IIIEars_sandyeggboy - vnc is good tightvnc is even nicer08:55
StabFacecan someon help me when I use the make command on a specific tar i get this error "cc -c -wall -Ilrmi - 0.8 -o 845patch.o 845patch.c ; make: cc: Command not found ; make: *** [845patch.o]  error 12708:55
sandyeggoboy....and i would like to be abble to use a GUI, not text based08:55
mantasstiml: thanks08:55
StabFaceI'm new to unix08:55
timlnp08:55
sandyeggoboycan i use GNOME from remote?08:55
jblumedia players for ppc?  Xine or VLC or both?  Mplayer looks "shaky" on ppc08:55
nickrudRQ, I understand that, but, the font problem has been around so long, and I just dsl and was wondering about trying breezy, heard about the X problems, and is that all?08:55
timlPM if something goes wrong, I'm not really watching this channel08:55
nickruds/just/just got back/08:55
RQnickrud: wait for the next week :)08:56
thoreauputicjblu: I've had good luck with xine - only issue on ppc is the lack of w32codecs08:56
RQX keeps crashing for me, even with timl's mkfontdir ;)08:56
jbluk thanks again08:56
RQand i don't even get my keyboard back :)08:56
RQdamn08:56
timlRQ: you you reconfigure it all?08:56
nickrudRQ, I'll probably wait till mid august to rally try, but, I like some fun, and xkb problems?08:56
RQnope.08:56
timlyou need to do that08:56
RQrebooting. I'll reconfig it then/08:56
RQxserver-xorg, right?08:57
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thoreauputicjblu: you might find some stuff works better in vlc - I use both depending which works better08:57
timlRQ: and also xfonts-base I think08:57
jbluok good to know08:57
RQoh08:57
RQno questions08:58
StabFacecan someon help me when I use the make command on a specific tar i get this error "cc -c -wall -Ilrmi - 0.8 -o 845patch.o 845patch.c ; make: cc: Command not found ; make: *** [845patch.o]  error 12708:58
timlthe problem is that during the configure scripts, if mkfontsdir isn't installed, the fonts don't get properly installed08:58
timlso then xorg freaks out when it can't find them08:58
timlso by putting mkfontdir on your system, it lets you configure the fonts packages and then xorg should be happy again08:58
RQwow08:58
RQit runs08:58
RQ ;))08:58
RQk. thanks ;)))08:58
timlrock and roll08:58
RQbah08:59
MrGardenHoseMananyone got a serial for linux vmware 508:59
RQbut i cannot ctrl+alt+f1 now :D08:59
RQdamn08:59
MrGardenHoseManor is this kind of talk forbiden here08:59
bob2StabFace: sudo aptitude install build-essential08:59
nickrudStabFace, try sudo apt-get install build-essential I think08:59
bob2MrGardenHoseMan: you get one warning08:59
MrGardenHoseMannoted08:59
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MarandaStealing a linux distro? Shame on you!08:59
IIIEars_heh08:59
MrGardenHoseManhaha08:59
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MarandaI can understand non open source software, like movies and games, but programmers need food.09:00
RQ:)09:00
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thoreauputicMaranda: vmware is not open source09:00
jatoshi09:00
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RQooooh09:00
RQerror activating xkb configuration ;)09:01
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jatos#kubuntu isn't very active...09:01
timlRQ: is that when gnome starts up?09:01
jbluone last?  so instead of reboot, just refreshh GNOME =killall gnome-panel09:01
RQtiml yes :)09:02
MarandaNow this is wierd.09:02
RQrebooting again. :) gdm should now start automatically :)09:02
MarandaWhen I set my card to promiscuous, the data says it has a link.09:02
MarandaNowhere do i see an actual connection.09:02
bob2that's on a different layer09:03
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bob2having a link doesn't mean you even have an ip address09:03
bob2much less network connectivity09:03
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MarandaIt says link quality is 42/9009:03
RQtiml: i get an empty message at first09:04
Maranda*45/9409:04
RQthen four dialogs about xkb :D09:04
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MarandaWhen I try iwspy, it says interface don't support no lil'ol wireless statistic collection.09:05
binaHi all, I installed webmin last night and it copied the root password from the passwords file on my computer, however seeing as the root account was disabled I dont think it has one and if it does I have no idea what it is :) there any way I can add a new user / change the password without logging to webmin?09:05
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binaadd a new user / change the password for webmin that is09:05
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bob2bina: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:05
bob2gah, letting webmin authenticate against /etc/passwd is a terrible idea09:05
rover_dantiml,   the same error messages.after a quict dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, my X crashed again09:06
RQrover_dan: dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-base09:06
nickrudbina, you need to create a root password to be able to use webmin09:06
timlrover_dan: did you dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-base?09:06
binabob2: wasnt my choice (well, not as far as I'm aware)09:06
MarandaPiracy: Backing up other people's data. Without permission.09:06
RQnickrud: that's stupid kinda09:06
RQenabling root user just to install a package09:06
binanickrud: then  reinstall webmin? it copied the password data I think, I dont think its still using the /etc/passwd file09:07
MadpilotMaranda: no, this is my data. I own all 200+ of those CDs... regardless of what the RIAA & others think...09:07
nickrudRQ not to install, but to use; cups, webmin, they do not recognize sudo09:07
rover_danooops, my stupid09:07
RQbina: try changing the webmin root password to an empty one09:07
bob2bina: ah, sorry, I misinterpreted you09:07
RQnickrud: webmin doesn't care about system users, imho09:07
MarandaAlright, I need sleep. I hope you enjoyed my company.09:07
binabob2:) worry not :)09:07
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RQall it does is INITIALLY uses the root pass to create webmin root09:07
PPC_Guyhey all question: How do I add Java support to Firefox?09:08
binaRQ: you know where its stored?09:08
Madpilot!java09:08
ubotuwell, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.09:08
RQbina: /etc/webmin/09:08
MadpilotPPC_Guy: see ubotu's post09:08
binaRQ: thanks09:08
PPC_Guyalready added multiverse thans..09:08
MarandaBefore I do, a question: What are linux viruses and how do they work?09:08
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nickrudRQ, if there's an option in webmin configuration to allow specific users to have admin privs, good. Otherwise, you must be root (with a password) to use the interface09:08
bob2PPC_Guy: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java09:08
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thoreauputicMaranda: they don't work, really :)09:09
bob2Maranda: I've only ever heard of one, which used to try to exploit old broken versions of a print server on redhat09:09
RQbina: /etc/webmin/miniserv.users09:09
RQto be exact09:09
Sir-Tezis there an easy way to install mplayer?09:09
Sonderbladehow do you find out what videocard, mobo and stuff like that is on your computer in ubuntu?09:09
binaRQ: thanks again :)09:09
RQthen you restart webmin (/etc/init.d/webmin restart)09:09
The_VoxMaranda: there's 4 basic viruses for linux, with about 20 variations of each...and none has been seen in the wild, ever.09:09
bob2if you're keeping up to date with security fixes and not running weird things from strangers, I'd feel very safe09:09
RQthen it will probably work09:09
Sir-TezSonderblade, try lspci09:09
bob2Sir-Tez: sure, it's in multiverse09:10
The_VoxMaranda: worms and exploits are a different matter...but viruses practically don't exist in linux, due to the security model.09:10
bob2Sir-Tez: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:10
rover_danRQtiml, thanks a lot. X now works for me again.09:10
thoreauputicSir-Tez: mplayer is in the multiverse repo, IIRC09:10
MarandaHow do they work? And Sonderblade, system > preferences > device manager09:10
RQ ;)09:10
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binaRQ: love it, its blocked 127.0.0.1 for too many authentication faliures :)09:10
MarandaWorms? Explain...09:10
The_VoxSonderblade: lspci will tell you about your mboard and vidcard and whatever other cards..."cat /proc/cpuinfo" will tell you about your processor09:10
edgardoHola Buenas noches09:11
RQbina: restart it09:11
RQjust like i said09:11
The_VoxMaranda: programs that try to exploit known security holes from outside. If you keep your box up-to-date with the security updates, there's not much to worry about09:11
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MarandaOkay.09:11
SonderbladeMaranda, thanks09:11
RQbina: btw i think you can paste YOUR password from /etc/shadow there.09:11
RQso it won't be empty09:11
MarandaOne more question: I am using the ubuntu livedvd. Any way at all that I can save extra data to it?09:12
binaRQ: ph yeah didnt see it :)  K, lets see09:12
edgardobye, Good luck09:12
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RQlet's see09:13
bob2Maranda: no09:13
ubuntubjr09:13
bob2Maranda: you can save data to a usb drive or hard disk, tho09:13
RQit should probably go to wiki, if successful09:13
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Maranda....Where can I save it, and how can I read my windows partition?09:13
bob2insert usb drive09:13
RQMaranda: no09:13
bob2enjoy!09:13
ubuntuhello09:13
RQCD's are read only09:13
RQ;D09:14
ubuntukokou tt le monde09:14
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MarandaI have a DVD09:14
RQbonjour ubuntu09:14
ubuntubjr09:14
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ubuntusa va09:14
Sponge_Question: Is anybody using tilp? --- I'm trying to send some 9xk files to my calc, but nothing happens (link is working)09:14
RQubuntu: fridays rock ;)09:14
ubuntuyes09:15
ubuntut'es d'o?09:15
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MarandaWell. Night, thanks everyone.09:15
binaRQ: works only if I put my username in too, but then it says that I dont have access to any modules.09:15
RQbina: hmm...09:15
binai think ill activate root quickly then reinstall09:15
RQso if you just paste your password instead of the root's one, it doesn't?09:15
RQbina: nah...09:15
RQhmm...09:16
binano, it prob uses the name as some kind of salt09:16
Sonderbladelspci says i have "VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device" is there a way to figure out exactly which graphics card it is?09:16
ubuntuok09:16
bob2Sonderblade: you don't know what card you bought?09:16
RQbina: it shouldn't ;)09:16
nickrudbina, just try creating a root password (sudo passwd root) then logging into webmin, using root, and root's password09:16
ubuntujust i want to say09:16
binaRQ: oh i found a file yesterday actually with a load of modules in it09:16
ubuntuthat i dont09:16
Sonderbladebob2, it is not my computer09:16
ubuntuknow how work this mirc09:16
bob2ubuntu: might be nice to change your nick09:17
RQnickrud: that won't work.09:17
ubuntuthats my firt one09:17
thoreauputicubuntu: you seem to be using xchat, not mirc :)09:17
RQubuntu: what is that you don't know?09:17
nickrudRQ, it's worked for every other web admin interface, I don't see why webmin would be different09:17
ubuntuok that this09:17
RQnickrud: webmin stores its passwords in it's own file09:18
RQit has its own users09:18
ubuntuto select the connected poeple09:18
thoreauputicubuntu: what's the problem/09:18
RQyou don't even have to have root in webmin09:18
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Sponge_does anybody knows how to transfer flash appz with tilp???09:18
ubuntuby some criters09:18
RQubuntu: what do you mean?09:18
RQbina: wait09:18
nickrudRQ, I agreed earlier,09:18
RQi'll try running webmin myself ;))09:18
The_VoxRQ: you actually do need root to do the first login and setup of webmin...then you can disable root after giving your user admin privs.09:18
RQThe_Vox: exactly.09:18
ubuntuthey are some people cnnected now09:19
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RQThe_Vox: but you only need it because of the default settings09:19
ubuntuok09:19
ubuntuok09:19
ubuntubut ubunto is my name09:19
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thoreauputicubuntu: do you want information about connecterd users? Try /whois <nickname>09:19
RQThe_Vox:  you can change them anyways. so it would be nice for ubuntu to change them by default to something.09:19
thoreauputic*connected09:19
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bob2ubuntu: I doubt that very much, but if, change your nick to that09:20
The_VoxRQ: that'd be nice, indeed. I have no use for webmin, tho, so I don't really care lol! but it would have saved me 20 minutes when I had to help a friend set it up in her ubuntu box :)09:20
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binaRQ: webmin.acl has a file with root and a load of modules in it09:20
ubuntuthank you i will quickly nearly09:20
ubuntuthank u09:21
ubuntubye09:21
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RQbina: you can change "root" to your username tnen ;)09:21
thoreauputicbob2: did you actually understand what ubuntu was on about? I didn't...09:21
binaRq: just trying.  thats the first time ive ever used grep to find something useful :)09:21
bob2thoreauputic: no09:21
thoreauputicheh09:21
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binaRQ: Success!!!!!  thanks for your help09:22
RQnp ;) and no need for a root pass, right? ;)09:22
bob2RQ: wiki it!09:22
RQbob2: yeah, wait :)09:22
binaRQ: nope not in the end09:22
RQbina: i'm apt-getting webmin now09:23
RQso if you can wait a few minutes, i'll check it out ;)09:23
binaRQ: hehe ok :)09:23
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binalol09:24
RQnickrud:  :DDD09:24
StabFacewhere do I go to register?09:25
binathere any way you can install all of the webmin modules without having to do them one by one?09:25
hondjecan someone say my name please09:25
thoreauputicStabFace: just type /msg nickserv help09:25
binahondje09:25
thoreauputichondje:09:25
hondjesweet, thanks guy09:25
RQbina:09:25
RQmy first way works, actually :)09:25
binaRQ: :)09:26
RQbina: try using wildcards with apt-get install :)09:26
RQ(or synaptic)09:26
RQbina09:26
binaRQ: prob just my computer being evil to me. Umkay, thanks again :)09:26
RQedit /etc/webmin/miniserv.users09:26
bob2StabFace: please don't /msg people09:26
RQor even better09:26
RQbina: apt-get remove --purge webmin09:26
RQ;)09:26
StabFace...sorry09:26
RQand apt-get install webmin09:26
bob2StabFace: if you have specific questions, ask them here09:27
RQthen just edit /etc/webmin/miniserv.users09:27
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RQpaste your password from /etc/shadow09:27
bob2also, presumably you're not using SuSe09:27
RQand /etc/init.d/webmin restart09:27
StabFacei just figured cause you helped me before....09:27
RQbob2: what's the link for the wiki?09:27
StabFaceno but that's the only place I found a walkthrough of what I need to do09:27
bob2StabFace: is your question "How do I install Ubuntu on a a Dell 1100?"?09:27
marlijsIs anyone here using KINO - video editing soft?09:27
bob2RQ: wiki.ubuntu.com09:27
thoreauputicStabFace: the usual netiquette is to ask before /msg ing someone09:27
RQk.09:28
bob2marlijs: best to just ask your question...09:28
StabFacesorry, I'm having the silly resolution issue with x1109:28
PPC_Guycrap.. d'l'ed the package from sun 1.4.1 but get an error when trying to convert the file...09:28
StabFaceand I know verry little unix09:28
marlijsI cant import or open any video file in kino, i dont know - do i need any plugin?09:28
RQbob2: and in which section am i supposed to create a page?09:28
StabFaceand I'm trying to update my vid card09:28
StabFaceon the laptop09:28
bob2RQ: just go to a new url09:28
bob2RQ: e.g. wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount09:29
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RQok...09:29
thoreauputicStabFace: have you tried running  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?09:30
StabFaceyeah I have done that09:30
thoreauputick09:30
RQthinking of a good url now :D09:30
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StabFaceand when I set it up correctly I am rejected from 16 or 24 bits when I force it too by eliminating all other options09:31
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StabFaceand I'm reading two different fixes Fedora and Suse that both parrallel09:31
RQhmmm... bob2: am i required to create a use?09:31
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RQuser09:31
StabFacewith the same problem on x1109:31
bob2RQ: I think so09:32
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StabFacehttp://www.velofahren.de/e_dell-inspiron-1100.html , http://www.buoy.com/pipermail/lilug/2004-June.txt09:32
RQdarn. i hate that.09:32
StabFaceand I am trying to use my really limited knowledge to fix it because I really want to start using linux... just not at 640x480 and with a 2 inch buffer around my screen...09:32
thoreauputic!resolution09:33
uboturumour has it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:33
StabFace....been there....done it09:33
thoreauputicStabFace: ubotu's URL might help ?09:33
thoreauputicah09:33
StabFacepulled my hair out trying heh09:33
StabFacewhen I correct the horizSync and VertRefresh it doesn't do anything09:33
StabFaceit just kicks my refresh rate up to 75 and smiles at me09:34
bob2go dell09:34
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StabFacefor real09:34
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RQbina: any luck?09:34
oggahwill there be necessary to install drivers for my 3DFX Voodoo3 16mbyte video card, im not gonna play any games. But will the GUI in window manager render faster?09:35
oggahRun smoother?09:35
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bob2no09:35
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nickrudoggah, no, the voodoo3 is recognized just fine09:35
oggahOk.09:35
nickrudused one for years09:35
marlijs:(09:35
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oggahnickrud, sweet.09:36
bubbleI can't get sftp/scp to work in nautilus09:36
bubbleany suggestions?09:36
StabFaceso will either one of you veterans like to take me under your wing.... :-(09:36
bob2have you asked on the list yet?09:36
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hondjehrm09:36
blakei have a quick question09:36
StabFaceI know not of this list....09:36
StabFacestupid noobs...09:36
hondjewhen I drag files to the trash can applet on the panel, and then click it, nothing shows until I ctrl-R nautilus09:36
thoreauputicStabFace: ubuntu-users09:36
blakecan i use fat 32 with lunix like ext309:37
blakei have ubuntu09:37
shad0wlol fat32 sucks09:37
shad0wNTFS > *09:37
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bob2StabFace: http://lists.ubuntu.com/09:37
Madpilot" In security, your "customer" - and I'm saying that tongue-in-cheek - is really the hacker."09:37
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Madpilotinteresting interview on tom's hardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050721_103611.html09:38
StabFacethank you guys for putting up with me09:38
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blakebut i want windows for some users that arent so good with computers09:38
Madpilotdoesn't affect linux, but it's still interesting09:38
blakeif i can09:38
nickrudblake, then maybe you want a D: drive that's fat32, for transferring between linux and windows09:38
blakei have 2 hardrives09:39
hondjeewww, that's an ugly site Maddy09:39
hondjeer, Madpilot09:39
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blakethat's what i mean09:39
radiodogmy geforce fx5500 is okay (X loads in in 1280x1024) running the nv driver, but the nv driver isnt nearly as good as the nvidia driver. when using the nvidia driver, i can get 1024x768, but 1280x1024 is really messed up. ideas?09:39
bubbleWhen I try to connect to my remote server, the process hangs for about 30 seconds and then returns with the error "sftp:// has no default action" or something similar09:39
Madpilothondje: yeah, THG is a mess, but they have good articles & hardware reviews...09:39
Madpilotpity about the volume of advertising they display...09:39
StabFacewhy would it say CP: ommiting directory when trying to copy?09:40
domsterbecause you're not copying the directory structure09:40
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radiodogStabFace, you want a -r in there to copy recursivly (read: copy directories)09:40
StabFacerecursive?09:40
domstertry --help, and you'll see a recursive option09:40
blakeand while i'm in here someone tell me it's not just me and downloading java and runing limewire is really really hard for a newbie09:40
StabFacegotcha09:40
xliuwhat is knoppix09:40
StabFacedamn I'm stupid09:40
blakeis it just me09:40
thoreauputicbob2: I made the mailing list a factoid for ubotu under  !mail, in case you don't already have it aliased ( guessing you do ;)09:40
oggahwhat cool things can we expect in breezy?09:40
domsterblake - no09:41
nickrudblake, try gtk-gnutella, instead of limewire09:41
bob2thoreauputic: ah, cool, thanks09:41
r2d4I am trying to start webmin in Ubuntu. Nothing seems to happen.09:41
bob2blake: yeah, it's a pain because it's java09:41
domsterblake - try installing java for AMD64!09:41
domstergahh!09:41
blakenick you gonne be on long09:41
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binaxliu: knoppix is a live distro (I.E you boot it off the CD-ROM rather than your HDD) that uses KDE.  Useful for when you dont want to change your hard disk09:41
r2d4anything I should do other than /etc/init.d/webmin start09:41
nickrudblake, a bit more it's pretty late09:41
blakecan i apt get that09:41
bob2wish people would start using pygtk or gtk# for cross-platform stuff09:41
nickrudblake, yes09:42
blakesweet09:42
bob2r2d4: is your problem that it doesn't start or that you can't login?09:42
r2d4doesn't start09:42
bubbledoes no one know why ssh file access won't work in nautilus?09:42
r2d4no error messages.09:42
blakei am so happy i ben haveing to transfer files through aries form my laptop to my desk top (ubuntu)09:42
bob2bubble: ssh file access? you mean sftp?09:42
bob2r2d4: how do you know it didn't start?09:43
blakecause i couldn't get limewire to work09:43
blake:P09:43
xliuthanks, bina09:43
blakepoo on limewire09:43
bubblebob2: basically09:43
thoreauputicbubble: type ssh:// in the location field and it should work...09:43
bob2bubble: sftp://user@host/09:43
r2d4bob2: can't access on port 10000 on local or remote machine. Doesn't show up on netstat.09:43
bubblethoreaputic: I know it _should_. Here. I'll do it again and transcribe the error message.09:43
bob2ah09:43
nickrudblake, so, you've been able to get gtk-gnutella ok?09:44
blakenick do i need to put the whole gtk09:44
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blakeor just gnutella09:44
blakewill do09:44
nickrudblake, in a terminal, try sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella09:44
blakeok that's what i was asking09:45
blakei'll do it now09:45
blakebrb09:45
nickrudblake, yeah, I figured; I'm trying to get this done so I can go to bed, it's my last09:45
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RQbob2: how do I add a <samp> thingie to wiki?09:46
RQi mean the monospaced block09:46
thoreauputicbubble: FWIW, ssh://hostname  works fine here... (I know that doesn't help you)09:47
bubbleThe error I get (when trying to connect to an ssh/sftp server through nautilus) is "nautilus cannot display "ssh://user@host.tld/" please select another viewer and try again"09:47
r2d4bob2: any other ways I should check?09:48
radiodogwhy would the nvidia driver barf at 1280x1024 and not 1024x768?09:48
RQbubble:09:48
bubbleI've reinstalled packages and the entire os multiple times09:48
RQhm09:48
blakedamn09:48
blakethanks nick09:48
xliuhow to quit x-window09:48
nickrudblake, works ok?09:48
blakenow i gotta figure out how to use it hahaha09:49
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blakei guess09:49
thoreauputicbubble: sounds obvious, but do you have openssh server installed on the target server?09:49
bubbleand just to be clear, ssh works fine to the server on the command line09:49
radiodogxliu: ctrl-alt-bksp09:49
blakethere are bars moveing and stuff09:49
thoreauputicbubble: OK09:49
xliuthanks radiodog09:49
blakeso i guess that means it's online09:49
nickrudblake,  then you09:49
rommerhow do i login to a mysql server as root?09:49
nickrud're good to go09:49
blakei'll go find a web site and read up on it to09:49
blaketho09:49
Kungasi tried to install ubuntu on my laptop but it hangs right after login. kubuntu however worked fine though there were some display problems.09:50
bubblethoreaputic: Well, the server is out of my control. It's running openbsd, if I remember correctly, but I can connect to it fine on my windows machine using winscp.09:50
blakeis it a big community09:50
bob2RQ: I don't know, maybe [[[fpp] ] ] 09:50
RQno09:51
RQcurly braces09:51
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RQthanks anyways :)09:51
thoreauputicbubble: well, i agree that if cli ssh works it's hard to see what nautilus's problem would be09:51
hondjeyeah, beats me09:51
Madpilotif I have two optical drives - one CD & one CD/DVD/burner - how can I tell which is hda & which is hdb?09:51
hondjeanything from running nautilus from a terminal, maybe in verbose mode?09:51
bubbleI've been working on this all summer. Gave up for a little while, but my desktop (windows) machine is having problems again, so I thought I'd give it again.09:52
radiodogMadpilot: well... what're the jumper settings?09:52
bubble*give it a try again09:52
bubbleI haven't tried from a terminal. One sec.09:52
hondjebubble: have anyone else try to connect with nautilus?09:52
Madpilotradiodog: I can't remember which is master & which slave, and being lazy I'd rather not take the side off the case again...09:52
bubblehondje: to this server, you mean?09:52
radiodogMadpilot: try `cdrdao scanbus`, i think that'll tell you09:53
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hondjebubble: yeah, to see if it's on your end or their end09:53
radiodogMadpilot: errrr... nevermind.09:53
hondjeI'd imagine it's something odd about your install, but dunno what...just throwing stuff out there09:53
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bubblehow do you run nautilus in verbose mode? The manpage doesn't say anything about it.09:54
Madpilotradiodog: cdrdao scanbus did ID both drives correctly, but no info about hda & hdb09:54
radiodogoh, okay. umm.09:54
bubbleI am trying it from a terminal though, just in case it outputs anything.09:54
bubblenope. same error09:55
radiodogMadpilot: do a `dmesg |grep hda` and a `dmesg |grep hda`09:55
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radiodoger, second hda should read hdb09:55
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Madpilotradiodog: no response from either command...09:56
radiodogreally?09:56
radiodogdoes dmesg itself do anything?09:56
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Madpilotdmesg itself spits out a huge chunk of stuff09:56
radiodoghmm.09:57
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radiodogwhat does dmesg|grep hda do?09:57
bubbleI just tried running nautilus as root (sudo) thinking I had read that somewhere before, to no avail.09:57
radiodogor, some other drive. a harddrive, maybe09:57
Madpilotradiodog: dmesg|grep hda & ...hdb do nothing. my only HDD is SATA, just a sec09:58
mgcrosshjere's a new firefox bug since the latest apt-update...opening History crashes my broswer...anyone else have this prob?09:58
Madpilotradiodog: dmesg|grep sda does nothing either09:58
hondjemgcross: yes09:58
hondjeI just tried it, crashed09:58
radiodogMadpilot: weird! hmm.09:58
hondjesegfaults09:59
mgcrosshondje: shite..was about to ask if youy had a fix...lol09:59
hondjeno, but at least it dumps a core09:59
hondjecan submit a bug09:59
Madpilotradiodog: all three drives work, at least...09:59
mgcrosshondje: hmm, where do I find the core dump...I'll submit as well...10:00
hondjemgcross: in a terminal, type 'ulimit -c unlimited', then run firefox from the terminal10:00
hondjewhen you crash it, it'll dump the core in your home dir10:00
mgcrossI'd tried running it with terminal...no info there...10:00
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mgcrosshondje: k, thanks..learning more each day :-)10:01
radiodogMadpilot: do you know the model of each drive?10:01
bubbleguess noone's got any more ideas?10:01
hondjemgcross: do you want to submit it, or do you want me to, and you can upload your coredump to the same bug to confirm it10:01
mgcrosshondje: I'll confirm....newbie here...relativley...10:01
hondjeokay10:01
Madpilotradiodog: yeah, the old one is a Liteon CD-ROM and the new CD/DVD/burner is a Pioneer 109, almost brand new10:02
mgcrosshondje: where do I submit...lol10:02
Madpilotradiodog: I'm just trying to track down DMA config on both of them10:02
radiodogMadpilot: okay, `cd /proc/ide'10:02
radiodogthen cd into hda or hdb10:02
radiodog`cat model`10:03
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hondjemgcross: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com10:03
radiodogoh, cant you just hdparm /dev/hda?10:03
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mgcrosshondje: gottcha...dumped...let me know when submited10:04
radiodogMadpilot: that work?10:04
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Madpilotradiodog: excellent, cat model in hda tells me that it's the DVD. thanks!10:04
radiodogMadpilot: sure thing.10:04
Madpilotand another two commands gets DMA running properly...10:05
bennyyo any of you play Americas  Army?10:05
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zerboxxIf I ran "killall esd" how can I "unkill" esd? should I just ctrl-alt-backspace?10:06
Madpilotzerboxx: "esd"10:06
Madpilotthen you should hear something from your speakers10:07
zerboxxMadpilot: Thanks, I thought so, but I ran it from "run command" instead of terminal10:07
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RQbob2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount10:08
Madpilotdoes "esd" work from a run command?10:08
hondjemgcross: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1287110:08
bob2RQ: awesome, thanks10:08
RQhere. mehates wiki formatting10:08
bob2Madpilot: yes10:08
RQbob2: np :)10:08
zerboxxMadpilot: Yeah, I first ran it from terminal, but I didn't want a terminal just sitting there, so now I ran it through "run command" and it's perfect10:08
MadpilotI've always just used terminal - useful trick, tho10:08
tecedManaged to install beagle from the repository. Menu item created ("best"), but nothing happens when this is launched! Any ideas?10:09
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RQ!webmin10:09
ubotuTo use webmin with ubuntu you have to add a webmin-root account with : /usr/share/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root "password"10:09
RQoh10:09
mgcrosshondje: k...thanks10:09
MadpilotRQ: add the URL to your wikipage to that10:09
hondjemgcross: thanks for finding it :)10:09
RQbob2: bahhh10:09
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RQ!def webmin or read the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount10:10
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, RQ10:10
RQMadpilot: you add it10:10
bob2ubotu: webmin is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount10:10
ubotubob2: okay10:10
RQbtw ubotu's current way is easier, imho10:10
RQ!webmin10:10
ubotuTo use webmin with ubuntu you have to add a webmin-root account with : /usr/share/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root "password", or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount10:10
hondjesure is taking a year to upload that core10:11
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hondjeoh crap, it's 84M10:11
tecedHi, anyone here know about installing Beagle from the repository?10:12
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darkmattersudo apt-get install beagle10:13
darkmatteror use synaptic10:13
mgcrosshondje: where do I put me core dump...lol10:13
tecedSure - done that, but BEST won't run!10:13
hondjemgcross: better to just add a comment saying you get it too, the dump is going to be huge10:13
hondjesince firefox is huge10:13
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mgcrosshondje: lol...k...i'll delete it from my home dir then <grin>10:13
hondje:)10:14
Madpilotgood night/morning/whatever, everyone. need some sleep...10:14
hondjeI'll save mine in case they need it, but it's a pretty big bug, I'm sure they'll figure it out10:14
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mgcrosshondje: um...should I add my email addy somewhere?10:15
hondjeif you registered they'll have it10:15
hondjedo you not have to register to comment? /me isn't sure10:16
mgcrosshmmm...don't know that I did...installed back in Warty days...10:16
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onnoHello, I want to buy a wireless card for my PC (not laptop)  wich brand should I buy?10:18
onnoso that it works with Ubuntu10:18
darkmatterteced: http://beaglewiki.org/index.php/UbuntuInstall10:18
arunetgear10:18
mgcrosshondje: well crap...I know I did...gotta go digging for user/pass10:18
aru!10:18
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, aru10:18
aru!apology10:18
ubotuaru: Are you smoking crack?10:18
aruheh10:18
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PIANISTAnyone got a static IP to the I-Net?10:21
fabiobHello, /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xorg is a symlink to "base"10:21
fabiobbut, who provides "base"?10:21
bob2PIANIST: lots of peple do...10:21
PIANISTdo you?10:21
bob2fabiob: if you're using breezy, C is known to be screwed10:21
bob2PIANIST: do you have a specific question?10:21
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PIANISTcause I want to know If I can mask mine...10:22
PIANISTso that noone can see it10:22
bob2that's usually pointless, but read the freenode FAQ10:22
bob2you obviously can't hide everything you do on the internet10:22
PIANISTnot everything but the IP is one of those things you can hide.10:23
hondjeI can, watch10:23
hondje /quit10:23
oggahthe most resource light webserver for win2k?10:23
hondje:)10:23
bob2PIANIST: no, sorry10:23
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bob2oggah: #windows, I guess10:23
stian_oggah, apache10:23
PIANIST!whois10:23
ubotuPIANIST: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:23
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PIANISTwtf?10:23
fabiobbob2: I was wondering if I could fix it, at least the keyboard layout-thing.10:23
PIANISTwhat shall be larger?10:24
bob2PIANIST: what's your native language?10:24
PIANISTGerman sorry... I know10:24
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hondjeum, are you here as root, PIANIST ?10:24
bob2#ubuntu-de might be easier for you :)10:24
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hondjethat's a bad idea10:25
PIANISTno problem bob2. hondje: what do you mean. localy im root yes...10:25
PIANISTJust try it hondje10:25
hondjePIANIST: then you're here as root, it's not a good idea10:25
hondjetry what?10:25
PIANISTif you mean that someone can get into my system....10:25
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hondjeit's not an open door, but it's still considered foolish10:26
PIANISTor what do you mean? Whats bad to be local root?10:26
hondjebecause anything you run is run by root10:26
PIANISTand?10:26
timlif you're IRCing as root then it's possible you're doing other things as root, and these are all generally bad ideas unless you absolutely need to be root10:26
PIANISTi see no problem in it10:26
lighthammergood morn channel10:26
hondjethat means if there's - for example - an xchat exploit, that can make it a root exploit10:26
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lighthammerhttp://www.vnunet.com/forbes/news/2138306/linux-losers?page=110:26
PIANISTlol10:27
lighthammersome intersting info10:27
timlPIANIST: it's the principle of least privilege10:27
thoreauputicPIANIST: irc ing as root is... dumb10:27
ptloPIANIST, then any chunk of malicious code you happen to exec can tear the system down10:27
timlif you don't need to be root, don't be root, you can only break things10:27
PIANISTi know. and i know what i can do and what i should not do.10:27
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timlyes, but that doesn't prevent you accidently doing something silly10:27
PIANISTand i have to be root cause i configure the server in our lan.10:28
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thoreauputicPIANIST: well, if you don't want to listen it's your own funeral10:28
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PIANISTI know.... its my problem.10:28
timl*shrug*10:28
asad2005I have added the normal user manually and now it does not show in gdmsetup for timed login, any ideas?10:28
onnoHello, I want to buy a wireless card for my PC (not laptop)  wich brand should I buy?10:29
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darkmatterlighthammer: nice link. and i thought the war had ended ;)10:29
Seveasmornin' all!10:29
Seveasonno, any brand that has a chip with native lionux drivers10:29
bob2onno: one using an atheros or prism or orinoco chipset should work fine out of the box10:29
Seveasonno, like intel IPW, atheros, prism210:29
darkmattermornin' Seveas10:29
bob2can you get PCI Intel cards?10:29
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Seveasbob2, ENOCLUE10:30
GreenmanXhi10:30
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danielsok10:30
Seveasbut i *thought* so10:30
danielsso it turns out that I'm getting a lot of bugs and a lot of /msg's about this10:30
danielsso it seems lots of people are trying10:30
danielsIF YOU WANT WORKING X OR FIREFOX, RIGHT NOW, BREEZY IS NOT FOR YOU10:30
Seveasdaniels, what about hoary?10:30
danielsit will probably remain broken for a few days at least10:30
danielshoary is fine10:30
Seveaslooks odd in the topic: FF broken in hoary10:30
danielsthank you10:30
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GreenmanXive just got one stupid question...im thinking about using linux and so i decided to test ubuntu with the live cd....but how can i login? username and password?10:31
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danielsSeveas: yeah, the firefox security broke some extensions.  yay.10:31
asad2005user does not show gdm  , any ideas?10:31
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Seveasdaniels, ghe, so the extensions are broken, not FF :)10:31
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Seveasnice one bob210:32
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flipyI've set up an apache server10:32
SeveasGreenmanX, it will auto-login10:32
Seveasasad2005, can you be a little less vague please...10:32
flipybut if I try to run a .php file, it downloads it instead of parsing it10:32
Seveasflipy, install libapache2-mod-php410:32
flipyit is installed10:33
flipydpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/libapache2-mod-php4_*.deb10:33
flipyseems to be a bug with that package10:33
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Seveashmm, not really, it installed clean on all my systems...10:33
asad2005Seveas, user does not show in gdm list of users for login?10:33
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darkmatterGreenmanX: yes. username and password10:33
Seveasasad2005, what is the UID of that user?10:33
Seveasdarkmatter, *live*cd10:33
GreenmanXSeveas: but theres a login screen for 10 seconds, after these 10 seconds i get an error message10:33
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SeveasGreenmanX, what is the error?10:34
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flipySeveas: do I have to enable anything?10:34
darkmatteroops. need to ajust my dyslexic fonts.10:34
Seveasflipy, check /etc/apache2/mods-available/10:34
asad2005Seveas, 100010:34
thespiritoftal I have downloaded the java bin file what should i do now?10:34
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flipySeveas: I can seem php in mods-available, but not in mods-enabled (after restart of apache)10:34
deFrysk! java10:34
ubotujava is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.10:34
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Seveassymlinks in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled should exist10:35
flipyuhm symlinks10:35
Seveasflipy, so create them :)10:35
flipyok10:35
thespiritoftal I have downloaded the java bin file what should i do now?10:35
deFrysk! java10:35
Seveasthespiritoftal: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 10:35
ubotuI heard java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.10:35
flipySeveas: both .load and .conf?10:36
Seveasflipy, yes10:36
GreenmanXSeveas: something about not logged in within 10 seconds...test rebooting to get the autologin10:36
flipythanks10:36
SeveasGreenmanX, and that is on the liveCD on every boot?10:36
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GreenmanXSeveas: *shame on me* it was the first boot of the live cd10:37
GreenmanXill see it in a few seconds10:37
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Seveaswhich version is it?10:37
asad2005Seveas, the UID is 100010:37
GreenmanXSeveas: the latest10:37
Seveasasad2005, hmm, odd, that should definitely be in the login list10:38
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omerHellp10:38
SeveasGreenmanX, there are severeal interpretations of 'latest'10:38
omer*Hello10:38
darkmatterhi10:38
asad2005Seveas, is there away to add it10:38
omerI need help with ATI tv wonder10:38
SeveasGreenmanX, is it hoary (5.04) or breezy (5.10 development)10:38
GreenmanXSeveas: 5.0410:38
travelleris it a good idea to convert an rpm file to deb and install it?10:38
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Seveasok, 5.04 should work :)10:38
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Seveastraveller, only if you cannot find a .deb10:39
hyphenatedtraveller: not really10:39
Seveastraveller, which piece of software is it?10:39
travellerSeveas: java runtime10:39
GreenmanXi hope so...otherwise i will try to install ubuntu on an external usb hdd10:39
Seveastraveller, BAD idea10:39
omerI need help with working on /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:39
Seveastraveller: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 10:39
hyphenatedSeveas: is that an alias? :-)10:39
franckhi. I have trouble getting my Hoary system translated in french. Main is fine, but universe package are in english (eg. firestarter or wxvlc)10:39
Seveashyphenated, of course :)10:39
thespiritoftalI tried to do fakeroot make-jpkg [bin-file]  and it says : You are real root -- unfortunately, some Java distributions have10:40
thespiritoftalinstall scripts that directly manipulate /etc, and may cause some10:40
thespiritoftalinconsistencies on your system. Instead, you should become a non-root user and run it10:40
travellerSeveas: ah thanks a lot10:40
hyphenatedsaw the same instructions yesterday and was trying to type it all..10:40
Seveasfranck, than there simply is no translation for it10:40
thespiritoftalhow can i become a non-root user?10:40
Seveasthespiritoftal, then run fakeroot make-jpkg as a normal user10:40
omerCan anyone could help me this?10:40
franckwell, it is translated on Debian sid at least10:40
stian_supertux isn't on the sources :\10:40
SeveasDo NOT run it as root10:40
thespiritoftalhow can i run it as a normal user?10:40
Seveasstian_, it is10:40
thespiritoftalI am a beginner I don't know well10:40
CyddVsorry to be such a noob, but what is the correct command to force apt to install firefox 1.04 instead of the 1.06 dummy packages? (this is for hoary) thanks10:40
Seveasthespiritoftal, just open a new terminal (not a root terminal) and don;t use sudo10:41
travelleris there a flash player for ubuntu amd64?10:41
bob2thespiritoftal: so, don't run it as root10:41
bob2which is common sense, anyway10:41
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Seveastraveller, no10:41
omerDoes anyone could help me with Xorg?10:41
Seveasomer, be a bit more specific...10:41
travellerSeveas: oh ok, then i'll have to live with that for some time, thanks10:41
Seveastraveller, in fact: there is no flash player for amd64 at all10:41
omerI have ATI TV wonder and HOWTO that explain to make it work10:42
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omerI have problem with editing Xorg10:42
flipySeveas: I've rebooted the machine, and still tries to download the files instead of parsing it?10:42
Seveasomer: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:42
Seveasflipy, go to a non-existent url on your server so you will get a 404 page, does apache tell you that is has php loaded?10:42
travellerSeveas: i see, is there a possibility of having flash on amd64?10:42
omerThe HOWTO is in ubuntu orums10:43
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Seveastraveller, no10:43
thespiritoftalhow can i open a terminal as normal user? in my ubuntu there is only a "root terminal" option I can't find any other option avaliable10:43
travellerSeveas: alright10:43
Seveasthespiritoftal, applications -> system tools -> terminal10:43
omerhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&highlight=tv+card10:43
omerThis is the HOWTO10:43
Seveastraveller, blame macromedia, they don't support linux on amd6410:43
arnohi ppl, how do u suggest me to organize my partitions for a new ubuntu install? Is there a directory taking more space than others that could make a partition (like whats the directory where install files are stored)?10:43
omerI stack in level 310:43
travellerSeveas: yea i suppose :/10:43
thoreauputicthespiritoftal: or right click the desktop and choose the terminal10:43
Seveasomer, discard all howtos on the forums and use the wiki :)10:43
bob2arno: /var/cache/apt/archives/10:44
GreenmanXSeveas: okay...the same problem after intall...login screen came up...user ubuntu will login within 10 sec...screen went black...now ive got the error message..."your session only lastest less than 10 seconds. if you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is a problem bla bla try failsafe session10:44
bob2arno: there's usually little point having more than / and /home, tho10:44
GreenmanXSeveas: hm...after reboot10:44
franckmaybe my translation problems have to do with UTF8 ?10:44
arnobob2, ok thx10:44
SeveasGreenmanX, odd, have you tested the md5sum of the iso before you burnt it?10:44
omerI cn't use the Wiki10:45
omerI have a TV card, not Graphic Card10:45
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thespiritoftalagain gives error :/10:45
Seveasthespiritoftal, what is the error?10:45
GreenmanXSeveas: hm...dont remember...i downloaded two or three weeks ago but burnt it today10:45
thespiritoftalLoading plugins: blackdown-j2re.sh blackdown-j2sdk.sh common.sh ibm-j2re.sh ibm-j2sdk.sh j2re.sh j2sdk.sh j2se.sh sun-j2re.sh sun-j2sdk.sh10:45
thespiritoftalsh: gcc: command not found10:45
thespiritoftaldpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)10:45
thespiritoftalsh: gcc: command not found10:45
thespiritoftaldpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)10:45
thespiritoftalsh: gcc: command not found10:45
thespiritoftaldpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)10:46
Seveaswhooow don't paste in here!10:46
thespiritoftalsh: gcc: command not found10:46
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thespiritoftaldpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)10:46
thespiritoftalsh: gcc: command not found10:46
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GreenmanXSeveas: maybe there a problem because i try it on my notebook?10:46
SeveasGreenmanX, what graphics chip does it have?10:46
GreenmanXati 9600 mobility10:46
Seveashmm, odd10:46
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SeveasI have the same and it works flawlessly, so it isn't the chip10:47
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Seveasplease check the md5sum of the iso10:47
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Seveasthespiritoftal, use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for big pastes10:47
thespiritoftalok10:47
GreenmanXSeveas: could the problem result from a faulty screen resolution?10:47
thespiritoftalwhat should i do now?10:47
Seveasthespiritoftal, and run: sudo apt-get install build-essential10:47
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franckDo I have to install localeconf to get universe packages localized ?10:47
SeveasGreenmanX, for the ati chip on laptops, auto-detect works fine10:48
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SeveasGreenmanX, try dropping to a terminal with <ctrl><alt><f1> and login as user ubuntu without password (if that works) and loook at the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:48
thespiritoftalit says  After unpacking 13.1MB of additional disk space will be used.Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? I type Y and it says Abort. why does it give this error? I cannot understand10:49
Seveasthespiritoftal, try y instead of Y10:49
GreenmanXokay, but when booting, theres the possibility to choose your resultions...may be i shouldnt touch that ;)10:49
Seveas(both should work though...)10:49
hyphenatedjust pressing enter should work10:49
SeveasGreenmanX, ah :)10:49
Seveasindeed10:49
hyphenatedit says Abort because it crashed10:49
thespiritoftalI tried both10:49
thespiritoftaldoesn't work10:50
omerThere is nothing in the Wiki about TV card10:50
Seveasthespiritoftal, does it just say abort or more?10:50
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thespiritoftalJust Abort.10:50
omercan anyone could help conigure it?10:50
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thespiritoftalany ideas?10:50
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Seveasthespiritoftal, and run: sudo aptitude install build-essential10:51
Seveasinstead of apt-get10:51
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omerS.O.S10:52
franckomer, what do you want to do ? what software do you want to use with that card ?10:52
omerI want to watch TV with that card, Don't care how, because I'm realy don't know any program.10:54
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NightLordI need help with xvidtune10:54
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NightLordanyone got any experience?10:55
catfoxif i have a file in /home/user/test.py and that file imports other files in the same directory. how can i symlink the test.py file to /usr/local/ so that any calls to the link (/usr/local/test.py) still finds the files in the origional directory10:55
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franckomer, what is you card chipset ?10:56
benplautgoodnight all10:56
omerThe tipe is ATI TV Wonder10:56
darkmatterNightLord: didn't you bookmark the How To i linked you to earlier?10:56
benplaut\quit "C is for COOKEE!"10:57
benplautdarn10:57
omerThey Don't have a lot o it10:57
benplautwhy do i always do that10:57
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omerMy ubuntu recosnise at as another thing at all10:57
omer*recognise10:57
franckomer, have a look at http://c.laloy.free.fr/howtos/linux/index_hardw.html10:58
darkmatterI'll send the link again NightLord10:58
darkmatterjust a sec10:58
NightLordsorry10:58
NightLordI got it to work, but it resets when i reboot :/10:58
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omerThank' I try it10:58
arnowhats the difference between linux-386 and linux-image-386 in the install when it asks for what kernel to install?10:58
stjepanhello10:58
stjepanI use Ubuntu Linux 5.0410:59
omerIt not USB, it inside the computer10:59
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stjepanMy ADSL works10:59
stjepanand download is great10:59
NightLordand whats your problem stejpan?10:59
stjepanfast10:59
stjepanbut surfing is very slow10:59
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Sponge_HELP! - Does anybody know whether tlip is able to send flash apps to a voyage 200?10:59
stjepansurfing is slow linke surfing with dialup10:59
franckOk, I'll come back later with my untranslated apps problems... Bye10:59
stjepanwhat's problem?10:59
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stjepanmy IP is 192.168.1.2, gateway is 192.168.1.1, subnet mask is 255.255.255.011:00
omerAnd it in Franch11:00
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thespiritoftalseveas I have disconnected can you tell me the command again?11:00
thespiritoftalI am sorry11:00
omerCan you have another Idea?11:00
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stjepanmy DNSs are: 192.168.1.1, 195.29.150.3, 195.29.150.411:01
darkmatterNightLord: xvidtune How to and example at http://pastebin.ca/1826711:01
NightLordthank yu11:01
stjepanwhat is problem?11:01
darkmatterno prob11:01
Sponge_stjepan: Do you want to get hacked???11:01
thespiritoftalseveas are you there?11:01
stjepanSponge_: what?11:01
athlonthespiritoftal,  Seveas : thespiritoftal, and run: sudo aptitude install build-essential <linebreak> Seveas : instead of apt-get11:01
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thespiritoftalthanks athlon11:02
dimmhi11:02
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thoreauputicstjepan: do you need the local DNS? are you running a DNS server of your own?11:02
dimmI'm trying to install ubuntu (5.04) on my t43 thinkpad11:02
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omerIf you can help me with My HOWTO it will hellp11:03
dimmfor some reason I can't install grub on my /boot partition11:03
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thespiritoftalathlon can you tell me how to install java now?11:03
bob2don't make a /boot partition11:03
NightLordwoah... looks complex11:03
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bob2that's the simplest solution11:03
Nameeaterwhat package do I need for cgi?11:04
thespiritoftalcan someone tell me how to install java?11:04
dimmwhy not?11:04
thespiritoftalI have downloaded the bin file11:04
bob2Nameeater: nothing11:04
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bob2thespiritoftal: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java11:04
thoreauputic!java11:04
ubotuwell, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.11:04
dimmI'm trying to make a dual boot system11:04
bob2Nameeater: unless you mean "How do I install a web server?"?11:04
bob2dimm: you still don't need /boot11:04
NameeaterI have apache, that deals with cgi?11:05
bob2yes11:05
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Nameeaterneat, thanks11:05
arnowhats the difference between linux-386 and linux-image-386 as a kernel?11:05
thoreauputicdimm: I have a triple boot and grub is installed in mbr11:05
bob2arno: neither are kernels11:05
thespiritoftalbut Seveas told me smth different than what's written in that url11:05
darkmatterNightLord: not really, just trial and error to find the screen position. once that is done just copy and paste the printout from terminal11:05
thespiritoftalcan someone look up and tell me?11:06
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bob2arno: they just Depend on other stuff, to make it easier to install it11:06
NightLordi got the printout11:06
thespiritoftalplease.... :/11:06
bob2thespiritoftal: the instructions on that page will work fine11:06
NightLordits the editing part that looks complex, worried about messing it uo11:06
arnobob2, ok so i'd better choose linux-386 and it will install the others is it?11:06
dimmthe problem is I need to keep ntldr on the mbr in order for the ibm recovery partition to function properly11:06
bob2arno: yes11:06
arnobob2, ok thanks again :)11:06
thespiritoftalbob2 can you look up and copy and paste Seveas's tells to me11:06
thespiritoftalplease11:06
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bob2thespiritoftal: you can do that as easily as I can11:07
thespiritoftalbut I got disconnected11:07
thespiritoftalthat's why I can't do it11:07
bob2good god dude11:07
darkmatterjust c n' p the differences. you only need to add the one section (onlythree lines), and then reference to it in your monitor section11:07
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bob218:39:35 @       Seveas |  traveller: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 11:08
NightLordalso, i don't have a /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file11:09
weitao__hi,do some body knows , how can Ichange the fonts in the GDM?11:09
thespiritoftalthe version of firefox that comes with ubuntu really sucks11:09
bob2thespiritoftal: in what sense?11:09
thespiritoftalwhen I open it the computer gets too slow11:09
bob2right11:09
bob2ubuntu applied a special "slow thespiritoftal's computer down" patch11:10
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thoreauputicNightLord: on Hoary it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:10
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darkmatterNightLord. xorg.conf11:10
NightLordoh, thanks11:10
alkuovithespiritoftal: you can try an optimized kernel. It might help.11:11
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darkmatterNightLord:if you have any trouble, just upload your xorg.conf and the xvidtune output to pastebin. then link to it here11:12
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darkmatterthen i'll walk you through11:13
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NightLordDone :)11:14
NightLordthat was easy :)11:14
darkmattercongrats11:15
travellerhm...i installed java as per the instructions, and even corrected the symlinks in the firefox plugin directory, but firefox isn't picking up the plugin11:16
NightLordwhere is the install directory of Firefox?11:17
traveller/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox11:18
NightLordthanks11:18
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stjepanheya11:19
stjepanhello11:19
darkmatterhello11:20
stjepanI have Ubuntu, not Kubuntu11:20
stjepanI want to install KDE11:20
stjepanhow?11:20
stjepanbut I do now want to download it11:20
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freewoodyHi all11:20
stjepanbecause it is 3** MB11:20
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anacronstjepan: sudo apt-get install kde?11:21
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darkmatterstjepan: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:21
freewoodyHow do I rotate my Squid logs ?11:21
Ghete1whats the command to make somethign world readable?11:21
Ghete1its chown o+r file ?11:21
Computer__GuruGhete1: chmod a+r whatever11:21
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Ghete1ah ok11:21
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darkmatteror open synaptic and search for kubuntu-desktop11:21
Computer__Gurua=all, g=group, u=user11:21
travellerfreewoody: add a rule in logrotate11:22
NightLordif you want, just do apt-get install kde-core11:22
NightLordthat way its smaller and easier11:22
freewoodyWhat kind of rule ?11:22
freewoodytraveller ?11:22
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travellerfreewoody: man logrotate will tell you all the things about how to write rules11:23
bob2ah, classy, freewoody, ask in another channel instead of reading the manpage11:23
NightLordcan someone help, i'm trying to mount my windows partition, but when i do i get the following error (I've included the command i used)11:23
NightLordroot@faarkje:/home/bruce/Flash/install_flash_player_7_linux # mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -umask=022211:23
NightLordmount: invalid option -- u11:23
NightLordi don't think the folder matters11:23
freewoodybob2, why are you chasing me in both Ubuntu and Debain11:23
bob2I'm not, I use both11:24
freewoodySo do I11:24
bob2I don't know why you didn't read the manpage yet, tho, which answers your question11:24
freewoodyIs that a problem for you ?11:24
Ghete1and how do i make something not world readable?11:24
freewoodyWell I just don't understand manpages that much bob11:24
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bob2freewoody: so, you read it but didn't understand some of it?11:25
devianthello guys11:25
davesastro76: hi ya :)11:25
NightLordany ideas?11:25
travellerfreewoody: logrotate's man page is pretty comprehensible, else you could just open up the files and study them, pretty straightforward rules11:25
deviantcan some one recomend me a good media player plugin for mozilla?11:25
fabiobNightLord: -o umask=022211:26
travellerdeviant: tried mozilla-mplayer ?11:26
NightLordi know, i just figured it11:26
freewoodyI did /usr/sbin/logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.d/squid     but nothing happens11:26
NightLordstupid mistake, sorry11:26
bob2freewoody: does that file exist?11:26
devianttraveller: i`m using it now, but i`m not satisfied with it . it crashes my browser.11:26
freewoodyYes it does11:26
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bob2freewoody: so paste it's contents to #flood11:27
bob2freewoody: and you know it won't print anything, right?11:27
NightLordhmm11:27
travellerdeviant: then i don't know what else i can suggest11:27
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freewoodyYes I know but I don't see any changes in   /var/log/squid/11:27
devianttraveller: is there no other i can use?11:27
NightLordit says now:11:27
NightLordmount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -o -umask=022211:27
NightLordmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,11:27
NightLord       missing codepage or other error11:27
NightLord       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try11:27
NightLord       dmesg | tail  or so11:27
freewoodyHow do I use the #flood    ?11:27
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travellerdeviant: sorry mate, i'm still new to ubuntu, perhaps you wanna stay awhile, someone else might know the answer to your question11:28
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gilliganhi there11:28
devianttraveller: no problem mate. thanks anyway :D11:28
gilligandoes anyone know which package includes alsasink ? apt-cache search alsasink doesnt find anything11:28
travellerdeviant: you're welcome11:29
davestoday as a test i tried the # program here $ (so i can use the cli after starting a cli process but nothing happended ? ideas11:29
Computer__Gurudaves wtf are you on about?11:30
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davescomputer_Guru:okay ... to connect via 56k i am using wvdial11:31
Computer__Guruah i see11:31
thoreauputic!find alsasink11:31
Computer__Guruno clue tho, heh11:31
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davesComputer_ Guru: to save me having a cli open as i have now i saw a message for someone else saying if you use #wvdial --config isp.conf $ then you get the cli back11:32
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'alsasink' returned no results.11:32
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Computer__Gurugotchya11:32
Computer__Gurudaves kppp11:33
freewoodybob2, are you there11:33
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travellerdaves: it's supposed to be '&' that backgrounds your job11:33
bob2freewoody: er, did you even look at that file?11:33
travellerdaves: not '$'11:34
bob2freewoody: every line is commented out11:34
darkmattergilligan: should be gstreamer0.8-plugins11:34
darkmatteri think11:34
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freewoodyNo I just commented out the first few lines11:35
Computer__Guruokay people11:35
Computer__Gurubed for me11:35
davesComputer_Guru: used it and was very happy but using gnome and have installed some other kde stuff but they aren't inserted in the menu, so how to do this is another learning curve i have (kde was easier under MDK)11:35
Computer__Gurupeace11:35
Computer__Gurulove11:35
Computer__Guruand chicken grease11:36
bob2freewoody: you commented out some essential lines11:36
Computer__Guruah11:36
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Computer__Gurudaves: go to a run prompt and type "kdesu kppp"11:36
freewoodyIs that so ?11:36
NightLordwhy does it say wrong filesystem when i try to mount my windows partition?11:36
NightLordusing command : mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows  -o -umask=022211:37
gilligandarkmatter, nope :/ i have that installed11:37
bob2NightLord: because you didn't tell it what filesystem it is11:37
darkmatteris the partition ntfs or fat/fat3211:37
freewoodySo I just uncomment all the lines11:37
bob2freewoody: why did you comment them out to begin with?11:37
NightLordi did11:37
thoreauputicNightLord: try including -t ntfs11:37
NightLordsorry, typed ito ut wrong11:37
niranhow do i see which packages depend on a given package?11:37
NightLordi did11:37
NightLordi figured it out now anyway11:37
gilligandarkmatter, do u have alsasink installed?11:37
NightLordgot rid of the - before umask11:37
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Computer__Gurudaves: you know you can install kde on ubuntu, it's even got a name... open a shell and type sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop11:38
rey_cute#bandung11:38
freewoodyWell I thought that I just need to comment out the all the logs11:38
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Computer__Guruthen just use kppp natively :D11:38
freewoodythen just use the lines below to rotate the access.log, store.log and cache.log11:38
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NightLorddoes anyone know how to make ubuntu run a command on startup11:39
darkmattergilligan:not to my knowledge.11:39
thoreauputicniran: apt-cache depends , apt-cache rdepends11:39
travellerniran: apt-cache depends <pkg>11:39
davesComputer_Guru: ya downloading the iso now (think it might be simpler to do that).11:39
bob2freewoody: no11:39
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bob2freewoody: also, your irc client is shit and didn't actually show us the whole file11:39
Computer__Gurudaves11:39
NightLordlike i want to it to automatically mount my windows partition when i start up11:39
Computer__Gurunot at ALL11:39
NightLorddoes anyone know how?11:39
Triffid_HunterNightLord: make a bootscript, or see if there's a local.start somewhere11:39
davesgnome is a learning curver on top of a new OS11:39
Computer__Gurudaves, open a root terminal11:39
Computer__Guruand type11:39
Computer__Guruapt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:39
thoreauputicNightLord: you need a line in /etc/fstab for it11:39
NightLordok11:40
Computer__Guruand when it asks you, select kdm instead of gdm11:40
freewoodyWell I am using Gaim for my IRC chatting11:40
Computer__Guruthen reboot11:40
NightLorduse XChat11:40
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Computer__Guruwhen kdm comes up, click session type and select kde11:40
NightLordor just type  apt-get install kde-core11:40
Computer__Guruand you're in kde11:40
NightLordfor the basics11:40
davesYa but i am on 56K modem not dsl or cable and wife starts to show teeth if on over night11:40
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Computer__Guruhahahaha11:40
Computer__Gurui hear ya11:40
Computer__Gurubuy her some shoes11:41
Computer__Guruor even better11:41
gilliganbtw.. anyone in here running breezy ? is it currently still very broken ? or is it okay to upgrade atm..?11:41
Computer__Gurugive her some money11:41
hussamanybody knows? have packages like samba been removed from ubuntu-backports and Ubutnu-extras?11:41
Computer__Gurushe can buy her own shoes11:41
Computer__Guru:D11:41
freewoodybob2, can you please check out the logrotate squid file at: http://pastebin.com/318381      ?11:41
davesGod no she has heaps alread11:41
thoreauputicgilligan:  /topic11:41
daveshell i an't that rich11:41
bob2hussam: I'd hope so11:41
bob2hussam: talk to the backports people11:41
bennycan I play .mkv in ubuntu?11:41
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bob2benny: yes11:42
davesi 'll just suck the is odown over XXX nights and then upgrade11:42
gilliganthoreauputic, aah.ok.. could only read parts of it because it doesnt fit in the xchat topic line hehe11:42
hussambob2: on ubuntuforums?11:42
se7enoneanybody know where i can download full software repositories (cd size)?11:42
thoreauputicgilligan: if you mouse over the line it should show the lot11:42
bob2hussam: no idea11:43
gilliganthoreauputic, sure thing.. i just didn't think of it.11:43
bob2se7enone: define what you want better11:43
NightLordwill adding this line to fstab be ok, or will i have to add options?11:43
NightLord/dev/hda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs11:43
freewoodyso bob2 ???11:43
bob2freewoody: !!!!11:43
bob2freewoody: it's time to hire a sysadmin11:44
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gilliganthoreauputic, has breezy already been switched to polyaudio instead of esd ?11:44
freewoodyNo man, I don't have time for that11:44
gilliganthoreauputic, as default i mean11:44
thoreauputicgilligan: no idea, sorry11:44
bob2you've spent 4 hours trying to rotate log files11:44
freewoodyMy proxy server is getting slower and is coming to a stop11:44
freewoodyYes man11:44
bob2so hire someone who knows what they're doing11:44
thoreauputicgilligan: I'm on Hoary11:44
bob2or just stop squid and rotate the files manually11:44
freewoodyI can't stop Squid now11:45
gilliganthoreauputic, ah ok11:45
travelleranyone knows of a java howto for ubuntu?11:45
bob2freewoody: sure you can11:45
thoreauputicgilligan: I heard rumours that Breezy will use dmix though11:45
bob2traveller: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java11:45
travellerbob2: ah thanks11:46
gilliganthoreauputic, anything is fine as long as this esd crap is removed11:46
davesComputer_Guru / anyone: know how to intergrate kde stuff into gnome (eg ark, k3b ?)11:46
gilliganthoreauputic, dunno if its any different on x86 but its utterly unreliable on ppc11:46
thoreauputicgilligan: I fully concur - i currently have esd disabled11:46
daveswhy 'cause i am used to them11:46
NightLordwhy is it when i do ctrl+h in firefox to show my history, it closes without any errors or warning11:46
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Computer__Gurudaves, right click the desktop, select run command, type in "kdesu kppp"11:47
thoreauputicNightLord: i think that would be called a crash11:47
NightLordok11:47
NightLordi know11:47
Computer__Guruyou might have to install kdesu11:47
NightLordbut why specifically when i do ctl+h11:47
NightLordits meant to show history not crash it11:48
thoreauputicNightLord: indeed11:48
thoreauputicNightLord: did you recently update/change firefox?11:48
NightLordeven when i go to it from GO>show history it crashes11:48
NightLordyes, i installed flash, and yesterday i updated it when ubuntu told me to11:48
se7enonebob2: my problem is that my ubuntu machine is at home, where i have no internet connection. I can only download packages at work, and keep running into so much dependency problems. is there no place I can download full cd's worth of software. doesn't matter what software, I'll collect everything if i can...11:49
thoreauputicNightLord: I have a feeling the recent update could be responsible11:49
bob2se7enone: no, sorry11:49
se7enonegret11:49
bob2se7enone: you could use debian-cd to make your own cds, tho11:49
se7enonegreat11:49
bob2se7enone: or apt-zip11:49
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davesComputer_Guru: closes thing i get is a create Launcher item in the popup menulist11:49
se7enonebob2: looking for multimedia apps mainly11:50
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aptloverghey all wheres the latest apt repos?11:50
thoreauputicbob2: was the warning about Hoary firefox removed from /topic because it was fixed?11:50
Computer__Guruwell that would work too :D put that under command.. *shrug* there has to be a gnome app out there somewhere that's the same as kppp11:50
bob2aptloverg: please don't jus tadd random new ones for no reason11:50
se7enoneis there no way to download everything at packages.ubuntu.org?11:50
bob2se7enone: not unless you want to click through 16 000 packages11:51
bob2se7enone: use debian-cd or apt-zip11:51
Computer__Guruse7enone: recursive ftp11:51
bob2thoreauputic: hm, don't think so11:51
se7enonebob2: no idea what that means11:51
aptlovergbob2: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 was spose to be good so i added them11:51
NightLordhmm.. i updated, but it still says firefox 1.0211:51
tim_i have a file i need encrypted. anyone know how i can do this?11:51
bob2se7enone: perhaps theyre programs you could use?11:51
se7enoneComputer_Guru: Good idea. why didn't i think of that? :)11:51
bob2NightLord: yes, ubutu fixes issues in the shipped version, not by just adding a new one11:51
thoreauputicbob2: NightLord has crash problems, just wondered if the recent ff is safe?11:52
Computer__Guruse7enone: i dont know, it was the first thing i thought of :)11:52
Seveasaptloverg, the ones on that side are a complete list, you should not add them, but use JUST them11:52
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pluffsyhello11:52
NightLordwhen i try to view my history11:52
se7enonewill synaptic be able to add a cd with only .deb file on?11:52
bob2se7enone: no11:52
davesComputer_Guru: thast's why i thought GTdial was but it shits it self on me (wont dial out), even tried using it with wvdial with no luck)11:52
Seveastim_, you can use gpg for that :)11:52
bob2se7enone: hence, use apt-zip or debian-cd to make cds it can use11:52
davestim_: how did you get on with the 2nd hd ?11:53
Computer__Guruse7enone: i dont know, but you can open that folder in a shell, and type dpkg -i name_of_deb_file.deb11:53
se7enonebob2: have a windows machine at work, any alternatives?11:53
pluffsywhat application and protocol shall I use for audio chatting with my friends? It needs to work on mac and linux (windows support is  neat to, but I don't need it), It also needs to be free, I don't want to support a closed standard like Skype.11:53
linuksopluffsy: gnomemeeting11:53
bob2Computer__Guru: the ubuntu archive is currently 91GB11:54
pluffsylinukso: what software is used for taking to gnomemeeting people on the mac?11:54
bob2se7enone: so, go look at those two packages, and note that one of them runs on windows11:54
Computer__Gurubob2: all he said was he wanted everything11:54
tim_2nd hd?11:54
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Computer__Gurumaybe he wants to be a mirror :D11:54
linuksopluffsy: hm, not shure, but I am shure there is several. gnomemeeting supports several standards11:54
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se7enoneComputer_Guru: cant be a mirror, only have internet connection at work - a windows machine. Need ubuntu software at home11:55
davestim_: might have been a tom_ or tom11:55
coobraIrssi uptime: 57d 14h 44m 47s11:55
coobraopps wrong11:55
pluffsylinukso: alright. I'm hoping there are some good free software that can talk to gnomemeeting on the mac, because of the screen shots gnomemeeting looks great. thanks. I'll look into it.11:55
Computer__Guruse7enone: what bob2 said then11:55
aptlovergSeveas: oh do u mean its a list of wait is allready in source.1st ?11:55
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se7enonealrighty...11:56
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aptlovergSeveas: so its just a case of unhashing them in sources.1st ? not pasting them in?11:57
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pluffsydoes ubuntu work with blue tooth head sets?11:57
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Seveasaptloverg, by default multiverse is not listed in sources.list11:57
pluffsyand does it take any complicated installation or is it just plug-in and it works?11:57
Seveasthe list on the pastebin is a complete sources.list for hoary, you can replace the current contents of /etc/apt/sources.list with it11:58
aptlovergSeveas so i do have to add them?11:58
davesComputer_guru: got my old archiver ark on yupppieeee (good when something works when this have stuffed up preseviously) using the create launcher11:58
thoreauputic!repositories11:58
ubotuI heard repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:58
thoreauputicaptloverg: ^^^11:58
aptlovergk11:58
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Seveasaptloverg, or simply: wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/pastebin.php?download=38 -O /etc/apt/sources.list11:59
Seveas:)11:59
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bob2pluffsy: yes, but most of them seem to be pretty crap12:00
thoreauputicSeveas: would that work withour sudo? I can't see how... ?12:01
thoreauputic*without12:01
pluffsybob2: the support on ubuntu or just bad audio quality in the actual hardware?12:01
Seveasthoreauputic, it won't :)12:01
bob2hardware12:01
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pluffsyright...12:01
thoreauputicSeveas: OK - as I thought ;)12:01
Linux_Galore:-)12:01
Computer__GuruLinux_Galore: hai, fscker12:02
aptlovergSeveas: great! ill overwrite that my soures.list with the one you spefied :)12:02
aptlovergchears12:02
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thoreauputicLinux_Galore: tweak its BIOS and change the boot order ;-)12:02
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Linux_Galorelol12:02
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Computer__GuruLinux_Galore: (x_umop_episdn_x on yahoo)12:02
Computer__Guru<--12:02
Computer__Gurusometimes as Jay31612:03
Linux_Galoremake it tick backwards and download porn...now there's a real geek watch12:03
Linux_GaloreComputer__Guru: you on gaim like me12:03
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aptlovergthoreauputic, thanks for pointing out the how to :D12:04
Computer__Gurugaim -v:12:04
Computer__GuruGaim 1.4.012:04
thoreauputicaptloverg: you're welcome :)12:05
davesothernoob: can you remember the file you suggested i remove from the deb file of OOo 106 ? (got down and installed but it's sitting in the local / obsolete status)12:05
Linux_Galorewelcome to HP.....eeer we  eeer sell stuff12:05
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Computer__GuruATTENTION12:06
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Computer__GuruI have a large penis12:06
Computer__Guruumm12:06
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Computer__GuruI umm12:06
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Linux_GaloreComputer__Guru: this "I think its large" or "my mum says Im a big boy large"  or some chick you paid $150 to large12:07
bob2Linux_Galore: enough12:07
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Linux_Galorebob2:  just me being funny......Aussie thing its called humour12:08
bob2yes, I was born here12:08
GreenmanXSeveas: ok...it wont work...but i keep on trying...thanks for your help...bye12:08
Linux_Galoreborn here?? as in this irc chat room12:08
bob2Linux_Galore: as in .au12:08
Linux_Galoreaaah12:09
Linux_Galorebob2: shame on you12:09
thoreauputicLinux_Galore: hey - no flies on bob2 ;)12:09
Linux_Galorelol12:09
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Linux_Galoreouch new AMD64 will have 1207 pins12:11
Linux_Galoremore pins than an Indian guru's bed12:12
thoreauputichard to find in a 64 bit haystack12:12
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davesLinux_galore: na the indians will be leaving india for us 'cause of the beds12:12
Linux_GaloreI can imagine some old guy in india going.....pfft these young people......they sleep on these soft beds.....in my day we had nails for a matress12:13
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Computer___GuruI'm going to bed12:14
Computer___Gurug'night all12:14
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Linux_Galorel8ter12:14
thoreauputicLinux_Galore: nails? pfft - luxury!12:14
Computer___Guruand next time at least let me deliver the punch line before you gag me :D12:14
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Computer___Gurupeace12:14
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Computer__Guruheh, g'night12:15
Linux_GaloreComputer__Guru: clear skies and far plains12:15
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Computer__Gurulong days and pleasant nights12:15
Computer__Gurusay thankya12:15
bob2Computer__Guru: next time it will be permanent12:15
Computer__Gurubob2: aight man12:15
Computer__Guruit reallyw as funny though :D12:15
davesComputer_Guru: still here ? (thought you were off to bed12:15
Computer__Gurudaves: for a min12:15
Computer__Guruoh12:15
Computer__Gurui am12:16
Computer__Gurupfft12:16
davessure12:16
othernoobdaves.. yes, remove testtool.deb12:16
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Linux_Galoreme going to bed is grabbing my Zaurus and exporting my chat client to my pda lol12:16
davesothernoob: thnx for theat i'll give it a go now :)12:16
othernoobyw12:17
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davesLinux_Galore: keep it clean (or is it my mind) :012:17
Linux_Galoredaves: ??12:18
Linux_Galoredaves: Im too old to worry about sucj stuff12:18
Linux_Galoresuch*12:18
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davesya me too wife keeps smacking me off her12:18
cafuegomuaha ... muaha ... MUAHAHA!12:18
Seveasehrm12:19
Seveaspeople, can we please stay on topic...12:19
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Linux_GaloreIm on "Ubuntu" subject as you can "Ubuntu" see12:20
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stjepanaloha12:20
stjepanhello12:20
stjepanI have Ubuntu Linux12:20
stjepanand I have ADSL12:20
stjepandownloading is very fast12:20
stjepanit is ok12:20
Seveasstjepan, that's impossible :)12:20
stjepanbut surfing is very slow12:20
davesGod the default file manager is a pain!12:20
stjepanSeveas: what?12:20
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cafuegostjepan: Don't get the computer wet!12:21
Seveasstjepan, do dns lookups take a ling time in firefox?12:21
davesanyone suggest an alternative12:21
stjepanSeveas: probably12:21
cafuegodaves: apt-cache search file manager12:21
davesgetting sick of windows poping up alover the place, reminds of ie???12:21
Seveasstjepan, if so, you can do something about it12:21
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Seveasstjepan: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.12:21
Linux_Galorehmm always use Konqueror as a file manager12:21
Seveasdaves, you can let nautilus behave like the win. file manager12:22
stjepanSeveas: I tried with much browser12:22
Seveasjust enable 'always open in browser windows'12:22
thoreauputicdaves: under prefs, change to "always open as browser" or whatever12:22
Seveasstjepan, in a terminal try: time dig ubuntu.com12:22
cafuegostjepan: Do you know if your ISP might have a transparent web proxy?12:22
stjepanno12:22
stjepanjust a minute12:22
stjepanI am in windows12:22
stjepanplease stand by12:23
stjepanI am going into Ubuntu12:23
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davesSeveas: was using kde  konquorer, now in gnome ubuntu, default setup (programs in default mode) me not impressed with some aspects12:24
tankiHow's quicktime support progressing in linux?12:24
Seveastanki, it's quite allright12:24
cafuegotanki: via w32codecs you can play QTs on ia3212:24
aptlovergSeveas: um12:24
cafuegotanki: if you have a PPC you're out of luck.12:25
aptloverg http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/pastebin.php?download=3812:25
tankicafuego, yeah that's true12:25
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aptlovergis that what you use?12:25
cafuegoand on AMD64 it pretends it works, but really doesn't.12:25
davesthoreauptic: it's the fact that every time you go to another dir it loads another window ... messy after a while12:26
aptlovergSeveas: there are some "amendments" on the  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/pastebin.php?download=38 page are they better:?12:26
aptlovergwhy are they there?12:26
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Seveasaptloverg, they are there because people made mistakes :)12:26
thoreauputicdaves: indeed - i use the rox filer here: but the browser mode of nautilus is OK12:26
Seveasbyt /38 is the good one12:26
tankiWelp, while this isn't exactly ubuntu related, it meets the second best criteria.. geekdom, so check it out, it's a weekly videozine about techy stuff hosted by a girl heh.. http://www.podcastalley.com/podcast_details.php?pod_id=563712:26
cafuegodaves: it does? Mine uses the same window when I navigate, unless I navigate FROM the main window.12:26
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aptlovergSeveas: so which one is the most revised?12:27
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stjepanhi12:27
stjepanI am back12:27
stjepanSeveac12:27
Seveasaptloverg, /3812:27
tankiand naturally, it's very open source friendly (content/editorial wise)12:27
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davesthoreaupituc: i use firefox for browsing12:27
thoreauputicdaves: erm - you misunderstood12:27
cafuegoAha! So Seveas keeps spamming the -users list! ;-)12:27
Seveascafuego, ..?12:28
thoreauputicdaves: the browser mode of nautilus is a file management mode12:28
stjepanSeveas: what in firefox?12:28
stjepanabout:config12:28
stjepanand then...?12:28
Seveasstjepan: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.12:28
davescafuego: it doesn't matter if i start from home dir or anyother place up pops another window / instance12:28
cafuegoSeveas: thanks for unwittingly helping me debug gpg/enigmail btw ;-)12:28
davesthoreauputic: so what state is it by default after installation ??12:29
thoreauputicdaves: edit preferences behaviour "open in browser windows"12:29
drcodehow I can run real players movies in firefox?12:29
stjepanSeveas: surfing is still slow :(12:29
davesthoreauputic: 'cause that's the way it is now , will try it now.12:29
thoreauputicdaves: the default is "ubuntu spatial" or something12:29
drcodeI Have mozilla-player and realtime player installed12:29
cafuegodaves: Odd. You on hoary?12:30
aptlovergSeveas: so the fact that i've delete my old source.lst with like the ubntu cd repo now delete is fine?12:30
davesdrcode: someone already asked that, iirc the reply was suspect / H/W issue12:30
aptloverg(and im happy with online repos if I don't need it)12:30
drcodemybe its me12:31
davescafuego: no on warty12:31
drcodebut what someone said didnt work12:31
drcodeit give me black window12:31
Linux_Galoredrcode: in firefox goto  Edit->Properties->Downloads  then just add the extensions12:31
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drcoderl ?12:31
cafuegodaves: Then the default behaviour might have changed. (Don't upgrade!)12:31
thoreauputicdaves: warty had the old spatial mode12:32
cafuegodaves: Actually, I'm on breezy, dunno how hoary does it...12:32
thoreauputicdaves: change to browser mode as above12:32
Seveasstjepan, what are the last 3 lines of output from: time dig ubuntu.com12:32
stjepanSeveas: so?12:32
drcodethere is no real player plug in there12:32
drcodestrang12:32
stjepanSeveas:12:33
stjepanreal    0m0.233s12:33
stjepanuser    0m0.005s12:33
stjepansys     0m0.008s12:33
Seveashmm12:33
cafuegothat's prolly cached12:33
stjepanis it ok?12:33
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tankicafuego, how's breezy holding up to the cafuego grind test12:34
stjepanSeveas: what?12:34
davesdrcode: think your wrong but stand to be corrected, i remember finding a plug-in a wee while ago (mind it was under winders).12:34
Seveasstjepan, it is12:34
tankicafuego, be honest, it's not easy being your computer :)12:34
Linux_Galoredrcode: means it not in ~/.mozilla12:34
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stjepanSeveas: it is what? it is OK?12:34
cafuegotanki: if you don't mind error boxes all over the shop at bootup, and synaptic typing to remove evolution whenever you update, it seems to work OK.12:34
drcodeso what I miss here?12:34
Linux_Galoredrcode: or your default mozilla/plugins  directory12:34
cafuegos/typing/trying/12:34
Seveasstjepan, yes12:35
stjepanlinks browser works very good12:35
Seveasdrcode: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support12:35
stjepanit says  35 kb/s12:35
drcodethanx man12:35
stjepanwhat is wrong with firefox and seamonkey?12:35
concept10How do you go about removing an application from the update list.  Say for example if I dont want update a kernel?12:35
tankicafuego, no really tell us what you really think :P12:35
davesthoreauputic: little bugge rcouldn't see the box for the holes :)12:35
Seveasstjepan, if you disabled ipv6 it should work faster12:36
funkyseamonkey or greasymonkey ?12:36
aptlovergSeveas: so the fact that i've delete my old source.lst with like the ubntu cd repo now delete is fine?12:36
cafuegostjepan: Try about:config again and increase the number in network.http.max-connections and network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server12:36
Seveasaptloverg, yes12:36
aptlovergok12:36
cafuegostjepan: Mine are on 32 and 10 respectively.12:37
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davesthoreauputic: now it does LOOK like the ms ie.12:37
stjepanSeveas: it works just a bit faster12:37
aptlovergand can I put my contry suffix at the front of the urls?12:37
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aptlovergor some of them12:37
stjepanSeveas: but still very slow12:37
thoreauputicdaves: frankly I prefer the rox filer so I hardly ever use nautilus12:37
tankicafuego, in all seriousness, are you actively developing or submitting bug reports for breezy or are you just running it because you're a sadist; or all of the above? :)12:37
thoreauputictanki: did you mean masochist?12:38
stjepan:(12:38
concept10cafuego, what do you have your max connections set at?12:38
hondjegrrr12:38
cafuegotanki: I'm running it because I wanted some features that aren't in hoary. Can't even remember what that was, now :-)12:38
stjepan:'(12:38
cafuegoconcept10: 3212:38
hondjeI hate it when a paper says "It easily follows that..."12:38
aptlovergSeveas: and can I put my contry suffix at the front of the urls?12:38
hondjeIt never easily follows12:38
aptloverg(last question)12:38
thoreauputicstjepan: did you disable ipv6 in about:config ?12:39
Seveasaptloverg, you can12:39
aptlovergall of the,m?12:39
cafuegotanki: Mind you, I've been running Debian boxes for YEARS and can manage to fix problems on my own.12:39
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tankithoreauputic, no because if he got a boner off breezy, i wouldn't be talking to him, atleast not without protection12:39
davesthorauputic: does it do tabs ?12:39
concept10cafuego, what about pipelining12:39
stjepanSeveas: apt-get works great12:39
cafuegoconcept10: default, disabled.12:39
stjepan43% [3 libgtk1.2 345750/842kB 41%]                                  40.6kB/s 21s12:39
concept10cafuego, why disabled?12:39
stjepanSeveas: you see that it is 40.6 kB/s12:40
cafuegoconcept10: 's the default.12:40
thoreauputicdaves: does what do tabs? neither nautilus nor rox do12:40
thoreauputicafaik12:40
cafuegonetowkr.http.pipelining default boolean disabled12:40
concept10cafuego, have you not tried to set that one?  That also increases speed, if that is what you are trying to accomplish12:40
cafuegoconcept10: No, that's not what i'm trying to accomplish. stjepan says his firefox is slow. mine's fine.12:41
tankicafuego, no doubt but just remember if you fix something that isn't niche, remember to let the respective ubuntu developer know -- granted irc help is good but i think there's more ground when you mingle w/ the developers12:41
stjepanSeveas: now I will try dillo browser12:41
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stjepanDNS solving www.programiranje.net ...12:41
cafuegotanki: No, no. It's normally depends that need overriding or a temporary equivs package or somesuch.12:41
stjepanhm12:41
davesthoreauptic: Oh i thought you like the rox file 'cause it did do tabbing. I prefer tabbing now saves some mucking around at times12:41
tankiah12:41
cafuegotanki: I'm not such a bastard that I'll make ubuntu devs start fixing code in say evolution ;-)12:42
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tankiheehee12:42
thoreauputicdaves: I like rox because it's configurable, quick and has a built in commandline feature i use a lot12:42
stjepan:'(12:43
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stjepanI am the sadest man in the world12:43
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davesthoreauputic: far enough :) , never know i might stumble across it and like it ...12:44
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stjepan:(12:44
stjepanso?12:44
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stjepanhave you any idea?12:44
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concept10Anyone know how to 'forget' about updates you dont want to include?12:46
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CrawlHow do i update my kernel in Ubuntu linux ?12:46
tankiI was watching a television show on hbo the other night called Oz and heard an interesting paradox about the internet of all things12:46
Crawlis there any site with howto file ?12:46
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thoreauputicconcept10: if you use aptitude you can do " aptitude hold <package> "12:46
SeveasCrawl, with apt-get upgrade :)12:46
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tankisomething along the lines of how the internet allows us all to communicate better yet those that spend so much time on it are isolationists12:47
CrawlSeveas : what do i need to type in apt-get , ?12:47
Seveastanki, hmm, how true :)12:47
SeveasCrawl, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade12:47
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tankii just woke up, it's almost 7am here so i'm a little offtopic12:47
CrawlSeveas :  this will fetch and compile a new kernel for me ?12:48
stjepanSeveas: is the problem with my DNSs?12:48
SeveasCrawl, no, it will download and install the latest ubuntu kernel12:48
CrawlSeveas : how do i boot from my new kernel < and configure it ?12:48
stjepanSeveas: or /etc/resolv.conf?12:48
Seveasstjepan, well .2 is a bit slow, but not terribly12:48
concept10thoreauputic, I am talking about with the Ubuntu update manager.  For example, I dont want to see the linux kernel update anymore in the list because I wont use it.12:48
SeveasCrawl, apt-get will install it and update the grub config12:48
tankistjepan, do you know how old /etc/resolv.conf is?12:48
daveswel nite all.  soccer in morning with wee son in toe, me coach he plays :)12:48
stjepanSeveas: what ".2"?12:48
tankiI meant, /etc/hosts12:48
Seveasstjepan, try: time wget kaarsemaker.net -O /dev/null12:48
CrawlSeveas  ;thanks :) , and how do i config my modules as in lsmod ?12:49
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Seveasstjepan, the time the dns lookup took was .2 seconds :)12:49
CrawlSeveas : i dont need all of them to work12:49
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SeveasCrawl, /etc/modules12:49
stjepanSeveas: real    0m1.141s12:49
stjepanuser    0m0.017s12:49
stjepansys     0m0.009s12:49
CrawlSeveas  ; thx :)12:49
Seveashotplug loads only the modules you need12:49
tanki./etc/hosts dates back to the days before dns was invented12:49
Seveasstjepan, that's fast12:50
tankiwhen only a handful of pc's shared the net12:50
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tankithere's a lot of history in all our ubuntu systems :P12:50
Seveasstjepan, your browser is slow, try another and look how much time it takes to load paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:50
Seveasthat should be fast12:50
stjepantanki12:50
stjepanit says hosts modified Fri 22 Jul 2005 11:17:42 AM CEST12:50
thoreauputictanki: /etc/hosts is still useful (eg for ad blocking and locally)12:50
Seveastanki, /etc/hosts is used a lot...12:50
Seveastanki, for sudoers for instance12:50
Seveastanki, or nis12:50
stjepanSeveas: how do you know that my browser is slow?12:51
stjepanslow is surfing12:51
tankithoreauputic, before ad blocking proxies and advanced webbrowsers i would agree with you12:51
CrawlSeveas  :hotplug runs by default on ubuntu ?12:51
stjepanSeveas: it doesn't matter what browser is12:51
SeveasCrawl, of course :)12:51
stjepanSeveas: just surfing is slow12:51
CrawlSeveas  : i need a 2.4 kernel12:51
stjepanand I use seamonkey12:51
CrawlSeveas  : apt-get will fetch 2.4 for me ?12:52
SeveasCrawl, why on earth?12:52
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Hyumahi all12:52
stjepanSeveas: seamonkey is the fastest browser I have seen12:52
HyumaI've question12:52
cafuegostjepan: What kind of CPU do you have and how much ram?12:52
HyumaI've download ubuntu 5.0412:52
Hyumafor ppc12:52
CrawlSeveas : i want to learn kernel modules coding on 2.412:52
Hyumabut the cd don't boot12:52
SeveasUbuntu is designed around 2.6 and a lot of the infrastructure of the system uses 2.612:52
thoreauputictanki: well even using adblock etc, I use /etc/hosts on my local network (it's static IPs and only 3 machines)12:52
Seveas2.4 is outdated12:52
stjepancafuego: ram is 38412:52
stjepanlook12:52
cafuegoHyuma: What ppc do you have?12:52
stjepanI have also Windwos xp12:52
Hyumaibook g412:52
Seveasif you want to learn module programming, learn it for the current kernel...12:52
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stjepanand in windows xp I use WLAN12:53
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stjepanand it works perfect12:53
Seveasstjepan, how much swap do you have?12:53
cafuegoHyuma: Can you check the md5 checksum on the cd and ithe iso against the one listed on the web/ftp site?12:53
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stjepanSeveas: 1GB12:53
Whistlerhi all12:53
Whistler=] 12:53
CrawlSeveas : my ubuntu runs on 2.6.10  - how do i swap on 2.6 with apt-get in ubuntu ?12:53
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Hyumasorry cafuego12:53
HyumaI haven't more the iso12:53
Hyumabut wait12:53
Whistler!packages12:53
ubotupackages is probably http://packages.ubuntu.com/12:53
SeveasCrawl, what do you mean..?12:53
cafuegoHyuma: That's ok, just compare the checksum of the cd.12:53
stjepanSeveas: but surfing is slow also with slax and other distros12:54
CrawlSeveas : i want to have 2 kernel builds , for me to swap12:54
Hyumacafuego how?12:54
CrawlSeveas : 2.6 and 2.1012:54
cafuegoHyuma: Running osx?12:54
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SeveasCrawl, 2.10 does not exist...12:54
Hyumanot now12:54
CrawlSeveas : 2.6.1012:54
stjepanSeveas: I tried with links browser12:54
CrawlSeveas : sorry12:54
HyumaI'm in windows pc12:54
CrawlSeveas : im tired :P12:54
Hyumaosx12:54
Hyumadon't read ubunt cd12:54
stjepanSeveas: it is much more faster that mozilla12:55
tankiHyuma, yeah cafuego is right, you should always check the md5sum of the file and make sure the string matches what's in the md5sum.txt on the site you downloaded the iso from, a simple byte or two offset can cause you a world of hurt when it's time to install12:55
stjepanSeveas: but it is slower that normal speed12:55
CrawlSeveas : k nvm thanks :] 12:55
cafuegoif OSX didn't read it at all, the CD or the ISO is damaged.12:55
Hyuma:(12:55
tankiHyuma, search for md5sum.exe12:55
Hyumagive me an error osx12:55
Hyumaok12:55
cafuegoHyuma: Can you redownload it?12:55
Hyumagive a me seure link12:56
Hyumaplease12:56
Hyumafor ppc12:56
Hyumaa link that you know and that the iso was right12:56
Seveashttp://releases.ubuntu.com12:56
stjepanSeveas: what browser do you use?12:56
SeveasFX12:56
RQHyuma:12:56
Whistlerwhat the evoliution package name?12:57
RQif you're taking about hoary CD's then i'm sure they're OK on Lithuanian server :)12:57
HyumaSeveas can I take this: http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-powerpc.iso12:57
SeveasHyuma, yes12:57
stjepanSeveas: FX? what is that browser?12:57
Hyumathanks12:57
cafuegoHyuma: ... once fetched, you should be able to just burn it using disk utility12:57
Seveasstjepan, FirefoX12:57
stjepan:)12:57
stjepanaha12:57
stjepanand you use adsl?12:57
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SeveasWhistler, evolution12:58
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Seveasstjepan, yes12:58
Hyumacafuego can i burn that iso with nero?12:58
Seveaswell, mostly12:58
stjepannow apt works 44 kB/s12:58
cafuegoHyuma: Yep12:58
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Seveassomtimes university wlan12:58
stjepan:)12:58
Hyumaok I re-download the iso12:58
stjepanSeveas: and how did you configure adsl?12:58
Hyumathan the mds5sum to check12:58
Hyumawhere is it?12:58
stjepanSeveas: with System > Administration > Networking?12:59
cafuegoHyuma: scroll down on the releases website, there is a link called MD5SUMS12:59
Hyumasi this:12:59
Hyumahttp://releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/MD5SUMS ???12:59
tankicafuego, i have a hidden suspicion an admin on my isp is bouncing me at will12:59
Whistlerso why i cant admin@Linux:~ $ sudo apt-get remove evoliution12:59
Seveashyphenated, yes12:59
SeveasHyuma*12:59
cafuegotanki: Sorry, I'll stop it.12:59
thoreauputicWhistler: spelling12:59
Seveasstjepan, my router handles adsl, I simply use dhcp on my pc's12:59
cafuegoWhistler: because you mistyped it. It has no 'i' in it.12:59
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stjepanSeveas: DHCP?12:59
tankicafuego, all my active connections will be cut but only for less than a second, it has to be a bounce12:59
CrawlSeveas : k, ive done apt-get && and such01:00
Whistleroh thx01:00
Whistler=] 01:00
Seveasstjepan, simply local network...01:00
CrawlSeveas : so now i need to reboot to have a new kernel ?01:00
stjepanSeveas: what have you changed in about:config?01:00
SeveasCrawl, if it installed a nw kernel: yes01:00
Seveasstjepan, only the dns ipv6 thingy01:00
tankicafuego, i'm wondering if there's a way i can report it without losing the guy on the phone heh01:00
CrawlSeveas : what do i need to type to instal new kernel ?01:00
cafuegotanki: is your network card busted?01:00
tankicafuego, nope01:00
tankicafuego, service was fine until this week, then i started to get bounced, i definately believe it's on the isp level not my end01:01
SeveasCrawl, I don't mean to discourage you or flame on you, but if you don't know these simple things you should think twice before starting krenel programming...01:01
tankii dont lose connectivity or anything, i just get my connections severed once an hour or so01:01
thoreauputicCrawl: if you *needed* a kernel update, apt-get dist-upgrade would have installed one - you would reboot into the new kernel01:01
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CrawlSeveas  :  i know what im doing01:02
tankii have been sharing/uploading legal torrents more often, maybe now they think i'm a p2p whore01:02
Hyumaok guys thanks all! I'll che the file when finished01:02
thoreauputicCrawl: hrm - really ?01:02
CrawlSeveas : i will be coding modules01:02
Hyumathanks a lot for the info :D01:02
CrawlSeveas : so i think my system will be safe01:02
SeveasCrawl, not reall01:02
Seveasmodules can trash your system just as much...01:03
tankicafuego, it's just hard to deal with a bofh at the isp level heh01:03
Proteque_is there a command to show the resolution X is running in?01:03
stjepanko01:03
stjepanSeveas: what about your DNSs?01:03
stjepanhave you configured it?01:03
stjepanor just DHCP and that's it?01:03
CrawlSeveas : i want too fool around with modules and strace , i wont trash my system01:03
cafuegotanki: do you have cable with dhcp?01:03
tankiyeah01:04
Seveasstjepan, just DHCP indeed01:04
cafuegotanki: I bet it's a delay in the lease renew01:04
Seveasehm...01:04
stjepanok01:04
tankibut nothing in logs show leases getting renewed and stuff01:04
Seveasyou can't strace modules...01:04
stjepanguys01:04
cafuegotanki: odd01:04
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phixionanyone know why i get so many errors with azuerus when i start it up? the update window pops up and i get errors :/01:04
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stjepanSeveas: I will try that now01:04
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tankicafuego, that's why i firmly believe i'm being messed with by the admin heh01:04
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Crawlthoreauputic: thnx01:04
tankior if not me, my grid01:04
mercif i dont want gdm to start when i start the computer -- can i just remove the S13gdm file from /etc/rc2.d/ directory?01:05
tankiusually about once an hour01:05
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LuNaTiK^GuYhow can i change my MSN nick in gaim?01:05
phixiongood torrent client for ubuntu that doesnt spam me with errors issss? (one with up and down limiter)01:05
SeveasLuNaTiK^GuY, tools->account actions->set friendly name01:06
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cafuegotanki: a cron job is making your life hell01:06
hhurttaphixion: try azureus01:06
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tankinot any of my jobs01:06
LuNaTiK^GuY10q01:06
dawkirstHello people.01:06
hhurttahello dawkirst01:07
tankiheck, this even happens when i have windows up01:07
phixionI am using azureus, when it start it up it spams me with errors, and it does it whilst im using it too...01:07
dawkirstI'm looking to emulate a dead, plain, simple Windows application...any idea how I can do this?01:07
hhurttaphixion: what errors01:07
mercphixion: gnome-bittorrent01:07
CrawlSeveas :uname -m says im in i686 and my kern is 2.6.10-5-386 , how do i change this ?01:07
SeveasCrawl, install the linux-686 package01:08
cafuegophixion: btdownloadcurses --help01:08
phixionwell an update box pops up in the bottom corner when i start it, and i get some error from that (dont remember what it says) then i get errors every now and then in the bottom right hand corner, ill let u know when they pop up again01:08
phixioncafuego and merc, you can't cap download speed with them right?01:08
CrawlSeveas : what do i need to type in apt-get to do this ?01:08
Whistlerwhat kind of filesystem i should use for home partition?01:08
Seveasapt-get install linux-68601:08
tankilaunch the gui through a term so you can see stderr in real time01:09
SeveasWhistler, ext3 is the default01:09
CrawlSeveas : isee01:09
hhurttaphixion: are you using right java version?01:09
phixioni dloaded jre1.501:09
dawkirstI'm looking to emulate a dead, plain, simple Windows application...any idea how I can do this?01:09
phixionthen when installing azureus it made me install some other java stuff01:09
hhurttaok01:09
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tankidawkirst, my generic answer would be through wine01:09
hhurttait shouldn't...01:09
CrawlSeveas : is there high memory support enabled by default in kernel ?01:10
phixionwell actually it tried to install them but couldnt, i did apt-get -f install azureus to fix it01:10
phixionmaybe i shouldnt have dloaded them01:10
Whistlercan i create new partition and use it for home directory ?01:10
SeveasCrawl, of course01:10
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Seveaswe don't live in 95 anymore01:10
cafuegophixion: Hmm, doesn't look like it.01:10
hhurttaphixion: don't use apt version but one from azureus.sf.net01:10
CrawlSeveas : :>01:10
phixionis there anyway i can find out which packages were installed?01:10
linuksoHighmem? As in >4gb :)01:10
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phixionyeah im kinda new to linux though, I wouldnt know where to install it etc :/01:11
merchow can i prevent gdm from starting on powerup?01:11
cafuegophixion: 'dpkg -l' will list installed packages.01:11
Seveasmerc, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove01:11
cafuegomerc: install and run 'rcconf'01:11
tankiman if i had 4gb of memory i wouldn't even bother making a swap device heh01:11
hhurttajust dl azureus from that website and extract it in your homedir01:11
dawkirsttanki, I can't seem to download it through my synaptic. Should I search for it online?01:11
Whistlercan i create new partition and use it for home directory ?01:11
mercthanks, i was afraid to go through the -f thing cuz of the 'force' word, it scares me :)01:11
cafuegoWhistler: Yes.01:11
Seveasmerc, -f just means: remove the symlinks even if the original still exists01:12
mercSeveas: thanks :)01:12
Whistlerany tutorials how to do it?01:12
mercah, still a skeery word :)01:12
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mercbrb01:12
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tankidawkirst, http://www.winehq.org/ i looked it up for you01:12
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dawkirsttanki, ta man!01:13
tankidawkirst, i'm not sure if it's in any repos but in the future, the main search page for mostly open source programs is freshmeat.net01:13
JingleBellsis there anyway to use apt-get to install packages when it asks for the CD, without the CD?01:13
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Whistlerany tutorials for changing home partition?01:13
bob2JingleBells: remove the cd line from /etc/apt/sources.list01:13
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bob2Whistler: copy data.  remount. enjoy!01:14
WhistlerJingleBells or comment it with #01:14
JingleBellsah good, someone should invent a way of remotely inserting CDs01:14
tankidawkirst, dont thank me, wine can be tricky and throw off even seasoned linux users01:14
tankiwhen it comes to configuring it and having it actually behave01:14
dawkirsttanki, will keep that in mind.01:14
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tankibut good luck01:14
dawkirstty01:15
tankiholy moly i'm turning into cafuego01:15
JingleBellsexcellent, its downloading, cheers :)01:15
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Whistleri installed ubuntu in one partition  so my home is in the same as system01:15
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Whistlerso is it ok if i change my home partition?01:15
bob2Whistler: then make a new partition, copy everything over, and mount it on /home01:16
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tankihowdy bob01:16
dawkirsttanki, cafuego?01:16
Hyumaguys how can i chek with md5sum a cd with burned iso?01:16
cafuegotanki: you wish01:16
Hyumamd5sum -c F:\ ?01:16
tankidawkirst, yeah he's an experienced user in here who i see always helping someone01:16
Hyumamd5sum -c file.md5 F:\ ?01:16
tankidawkirst, i think he does it to get away from his wife01:16
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tankibut keep that between us, k01:16
cafuegotanki: i'm a bitter old sadist.01:16
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phixionk i installed azureus from its homepage, when it start it an error appears "error loading plugin 'azupdater'01:17
xliuhow to install c++ library?01:17
bob2xliu: which one?01:17
kafeineguys, i tried installing firefox1.0.601:17
bob2best to not do that01:17
kafeineand now i can't seem to remove it01:17
cafuegoxliu: they're called libstdc++-*01:17
hhurttaphixion: so you are running it like ./azureus01:17
kafeineand in synaptic, it's impossible to install mozilla-firefox now..01:17
phixionyeah hhurtta01:17
hhurttahmm01:18
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phixionswitched to the dir01:18
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phixionthen ./azureus01:18
phixionbasically im getting the windows update box appear01:18
phixionwith .zip files in01:18
joedoui have a , when i login in ubuntu, there pops up a msgbox saying "Missing command to run" and my networkconfiguration also pops up, any id how i can fix this ?01:18
phixionand the errors appearing when that box pops up :(01:18
kafeineor at least, can someone tell me where should i be installing it?01:19
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hhurttaphixion: so it tries to update immediately?01:19
tWipthe latest Firefox update in Hoary seems to be broken (I had to start in safe mode to avoid core dumps), anyone know about that?01:19
bob2yes01:19
Antinomyjust installed a dual-boot ubuntu/XP, Windows loads fine but Ubuntu freezes at the login screen. Any clues?01:19
xliui want to complie a cpp file, and gcc said it could not find libraraies such as iostream01:19
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bob2xliu: so, install build-essential01:20
tankifine bob show me no luv01:20
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bob2tanki: hi01:20
phixionyes hhurtta01:20
pittianyone here who has problems with yesterday's firefox security update and wants to test an updated version?01:21
hhurttaso can't you just ignore it and make sure it won't try to update later01:21
linuxboyI have a user who is having troubles with OOo. If they don't set POSIX/C as their language on a login, it doesn't load. How do I fix this ?01:21
bob2tWip: there you go01:21
hhurttashould be found somewhere in the menu01:21
Antinomyjust installed a dual-boot ubuntu/XP, Windows loads fine but Ubuntu freezes at the login screen. Any clues?01:21
tWippitti, I can test it01:21
tankiWhistler, find /home -mount | cpio -pvdum /thenewhome then make the change in fstab, have a bootdisk ready if something goes wacky, if all is fine afterwards, you can safely rename it and delete the old home01:22
bob2Antinomy: define "freezes"01:22
hhurttaphixion: and also get rid of the apt-installed azureus if you haven't already01:22
xliuthanks bob201:22
phixionyeah :)01:22
tankibob, too late the damage is done01:22
tanki:)01:22
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Antinomybob2: I see the splash screen and the login box for user name. cursor flashes in there, but no input is accepted. THen cursor stops flashing. then after 5 minutes, the screen blanks out. the mouse pointer never moves throughout01:23
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Antinomybob2: loading from grub01:23
bob2Antinomy: does wiggling the mouse or hitting the kyboard wake up the monitor?01:23
bob2sure your hardware is ok?01:23
Antinomyno, not at all01:24
Antinomybob2: no01:24
tankijust remember to stop hitting the keyboard01:24
Antinomybob2: touchpad01:24
tanki:)01:24
linuxboyanybody help me ?01:24
xozAntinomy: try boot in single-user01:24
Antinomyxoz: what does that mean?01:24
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xozAntinomy: init 1... pass S (single-user) in the ubuntu bootprompt.01:25
Antinomyxoz: in grub?01:25
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xozAntinomy: yep.01:26
Antinomyxoz: one sec...is that an option I can select?01:26
tankii personally like the fonzi approach, wiggle the mouse and hit the keyboard until things work01:26
omerHello01:26
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Antinomyxoz: I have 3 kernels listed01:26
Antinomyxoz: and Winblows01:26
xozAntinomy: maybe no. you have to go to the edit mode and pass that parameter01:27
zerboxxI'm having a really tough time getting my palm pilot to work, can anyone give me a hand please?01:27
Antinomyxoz: how do I do that? do you know?01:27
omerCan you help me with ATI tv card?01:27
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Antinomyxoz: 'c' for command line?01:27
xozAntinomy: in grub prompt, maybe e or c01:28
tankitv-out means you can export your display/desktop to a television set right?01:28
Antinomyxoz: Ok, I'm at the grub commant line01:28
tankior can it only go to an external monitor?01:28
xozAntinomy: if your kernel name is ubuntu... use ubuntu S01:28
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tankido you know what i mean, omer01:28
Antinomyxoz: I'm at the command line. How do I use Ubuntu S?01:28
xozAntinomy: you should know the name of your kernel to boot. <kernel name> S <return>01:29
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xozAntinomy: *[enter|return] 01:30
omerIt not TV out01:30
Antinomyxoz: dig. one sec.01:30
stjepanhi01:30
stjepanSeveas01:30
stjepanI am shocked01:30
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omerIt TV card that let you watch TV on computer/Watch VIdeo on computer01:30
Antinomyxoz: side note - could this be happening because I loaded a x86 onto an AMD 64?01:30
phixionhow do i view hidden directories from terminal? :po01:30
toowoombals -a01:31
omerCan you help me configure it?01:31
phixionthx01:31
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xozAntinomy: this will allow you to avoid loading most modules and X so that you can go to console. Antinomy it should be upward compat but not sure. i think it is Xserver problem.01:31
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Antinomyxoz: ok let me try...01:32
Antinomyyou should know the name of your kernel to boot. <kernel name> S <return>01:32
omertanki: My problem is with xorg01:32
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tankiomer, i dont own one i was just curious about how they work01:32
xozAntinomy: most likely, X configuration problem01:32
Antinomyxoz: your command didnt work. do I need the brackets?01:33
xozAntinomy: no.01:33
omerWell, That a qestion more on xorg than on TV card, tanki01:33
stjepanSeveas: hey01:33
Antinomyxoz: so syntax is Ubuntu, Kernel 2.6.10-5-386 S01:33
stjepanSeveas: look at this: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=740501:34
xozAntinomy: example* kernel-image-2.6.10 S01:34
stjepanit is impossible01:34
stjepanI am shocked01:34
Antinomyxoz: Unrecognized command.01:35
xozAntinomy: what about 1 or init=/bin/bash01:35
stjepanSeveas: so?01:35
Whistleris there any way of stopping daemons from starting on boot up?01:35
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stjepanok01:35
stjepanhttp://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=740501:35
bob2Whistler: sure, remove the S symlink from /etc/rc2.d/01:35
Antinomyboth unrecognized commands01:35
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xozAntinomy: use e to edit the boot option01:35
stjepanwhat is problem with that?01:35
bob2Whistler: or use rcconf01:36
Antinomyok thanks01:36
omerDoes anyone here understand in xorg?01:36
AntinomyOk, I'm in edit mode in grub. Which should I pick?01:36
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xozAntinomy: just add it to the end of the other options01:37
xozAntinomy: and press "g"... not sure01:37
Antinomyxoz: SO I'm going to open a new line?01:37
Antinomyxoz: ok01:37
Antinomyxoz: and the syntax again, xoz?01:38
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xozAntinomy: just add "S" or "1" or "init=/bin/bash" to the end of the line that contains your kernel01:39
Antinomyk01:39
derda  inflating: jre1.5.0_04/bin/java01:39
Antinomyxoz: done01:39
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derdawhere is it on my local system?01:39
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xozAntinomy: or you can google "grub single-user"01:40
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Antinomyxoz: no thanks, I'd rather talk to you01:40
Antinomyxoz: now I entered the S, do I go back to the main screen to boot?01:40
xozAntinomy: ah, not S... type "single" then ... main screen... then b to boot01:41
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_omer_I need help with xorg01:41
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xozAntinomy: substitute S with the word single. got it. S is for lilo.01:41
Antinomyxoz: got it. booting.01:41
Antinomyxoz: <fyi, I booted from the edit screen>01:42
stjepanso?01:42
stjepanhey01:42
stjepanwhere is Seveas?01:42
xozAntinomy: if your comp hangs, then at least you know it's not X only :(01:42
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Antinomyxoz: what if it just isnt seeing my keyboard?01:42
Antinomyxoz: yeah thats it I got a command line but no keys are coming up.01:43
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xozAntinomy: linux won't boot if your kb is not recognize AFAIK01:43
xoz*recognized01:43
othernoobdoes anyone use Opera8?01:43
AntinomyAFAIK?01:43
othernoobafaik=as far as i know01:43
Whistleri do01:43
Whistleruse01:43
Whistleropera801:43
bob2xoz: sure it will01:43
Whistler=] 01:43
RQ_omer_: ?01:44
bob2xoz: unless your bios whinges01:44
CapSoftothernoob try firefox01:44
Antinomyxoz: ok...what do I need to do to make it recognize it?01:44
othernoobCapSoft: no thank you, i prefer a good browser ;)01:44
xozAntinomy: buy a new kb :)01:44
CapSoftas i said... firefox ;)01:44
Antinomyxoz: SO not funny.01:44
othernoobWhistler: is there a plugin for streaming media like wmv?01:44
CapSoftfor mozilla there is01:44
Whistlerothernoob srry but i dont know01:44
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CapSoftas i said..... firefox is good :P01:44
RQnew keyb is always fun, Antinomy01:44
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RQ;)01:44
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othernoobCapSoft: i know01:45
CapSoftmozilla-mplayer... or something...01:45
AntinomyUbuntu: linux for humans with ALOT of spare time.01:45
_omer_I need edit xorg, and I have a problem there01:45
othernoobCapSoft: ignore my nickname okay?01:45
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xozAntinomy: strange that kb is not recognized. well, i would like to suggest you do certain commands but you have no kb... oh well.01:45
RQ_omer_: specify01:45
CapSoftlol k i will01:45
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RQhmmm what's the problem, xoz/Antinomy:01:45
RQ?01:45
Antinomyxoz: Hey, thanks. back to Windows, then01:45
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xozAntinomy: try knoppix or other livecd and check if others work.01:45
othernoobCapSoft: the main reason why i asked is, that the mplayer plugin for firefox should work with opera as well, but it's not being recognized01:46
jamesI've got a fresh ubuntu64 install, and am having some problems getting the printer to work. It is a parallel port Samsung ML-1210. I try to print a Test page, it shows up in /var/spool/cups but it does not print.01:46
xozAntinomy: are you using 2.6 kernel?01:46
CapSoftow Antinomy how did it work out? your ubuntu install?01:46
Antinomydon't have time for this nonsense01:46
_omer_That part o my xorg:01:46
Antinomycap:(01:46
_omer_Section "Device"01:46
_omer_Identifier"Intel Corporation 865G Integrated Extreme Graphics 2 Device"01:46
_omer_Driver"i810"01:46
_omer_BusID"PCI:0:2:0"01:46
_omer_EndSection01:46
RQand01:46
RQ?01:46
AntinomyCapSoft: it installed, but won't recognize my keyboard01:46
_omer_Section "Device"01:46
_omer_Identifier"Intel Corporation 865G Integrated Extreme Graphics 2 Device"01:46
_omer_Driver"i810"01:46
_omer_BusID"PCI:0:2:0"01:46
_omer_EndSection01:46
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Seveasdo NOT paste in here01:46
CapSoftlol01:46
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CapSoftpaste.ubuntulinux.org01:47
Seveas.nl01:47
AntinomyCapSoft: it installed, but won't recognize my keyboard01:47
Seveasnot .org01:47
Whistlerwhy cant i remove anything from ///etc/rc2.d ?01:47
SeveaswHisKy, because only root can01:47
bob2Whistler: because you didn't use sudo01:47
CapSoftk Seveas01:47
bob2Whistler: don't use nautilus for that01:47
Whistleri used krusader01:47
Whistler:D01:47
Whistler^^01:47
Whistler=] 01:47
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bob2don't use that either01:47
CapSoftcommandline01:47
CapSoftsudo rm .....01:48
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Whistlernow i know01:48
Whistler=] 01:48
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Antinomywhat lovely irony. Windows is working great.01:48
CapSoftlmao01:48
CapSoftdoes it?01:48
bob2how is that irony?01:48
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CapSoftit just does not show the errors...01:48
AntinomyCapSoft: yep.01:48
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zerboxxDoes anyone here know how to get pdf files onto a palm pilot? I've read that it's possible through evolution but I have no idea how01:48
LuNaTiK^GuYis there a program i can use to resume a download?01:48
Whistlerwhat command deletes file?01:48
Antinomybob2: well, I'm installing ubuntu because windows sucks.01:48
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bob2Whistler: rm01:49
Whistlerthx01:49
CapSoftLuNaTiK^GuY just look for download managers for linux01:49
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Antinomybob2:  But I may have to reevaluate the relative merits. A working computer is sort of essential01:49
CapSoftif you download through http, firefox has some plugins ...01:49
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Antinomyto me at least01:49
LuNaTiK^GuYCapSoft is there something in the repos?01:49
xliui used gcc to compile a cpp file , it returns:undefined reference to cin01:49
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bob2xliu: your code is broken01:49
simonehi: how can I see where is the cdrom into /dev? I don't see a /dev/cdrom directory...01:49
bob2xliu: std::cin01:49
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Whistlerso if i remove files from ///etc/rc2.d so they wont start up?01:50
Seveasor: using namspace std01:50
SeveasWhistler, never manually do that01:50
Seveasuse update-rc.d01:50
bob2Whistler: the S ones, yes01:50
AntinomyDoes anyone know how I can get Ubuntu to recognize my keyboard?01:50
xliuyes , it returns"undefined reference to std:cin"01:50
Seveasxliu, std::cin01:50
xliu"undefined reference to std::cin"01:50
Seveasthen #include <iostream>01:51
hondjehehe01:51
RQAntinomy: what's wrong with your keyb?01:51
bob2xliu: this is #c++ territory, tho01:51
Seveasbut waaay offtopic in here, go to a programming channel01:51
xliubut i have write "using namespace std"01:51
bob2or "time to buy a C++ book"01:51
xliuc++01:51
Whistlerbob2 so i can delete files beggining with S2001:51
Whistleror smt like that?01:51
SeveasWhistler, why would you?01:52
AntinomyRQ: I did a dual boot install. Windows works fine - key board, mouse, but Ubu is not recognizing either01:52
xozxliu: #include <iostream>01:52
SeveasWhistler, what are you trying to accomplish01:52
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RQAntinomy: does it ignore them completely?01:52
RQ?01:52
WhistlerSeveas cause i got few daemons booting up01:52
Whistlerand i dont want them01:52
Whistlerto boot up01:52
SeveasWhistler, which ones?01:52
xliui have write all needed, it must be wrong configuration about gcc library01:52
Whistlermysql01:52
Whistlernessusd01:52
Seveasxliu, paste your code on a pastebin01:52
Whistlerand few more01:53
AntinomyRQ: yep01:53
SeveasWhistler, then remove the packages...01:53
xliupastebin?01:53
AntinomyShould I reinstall?01:53
Seveasxliu, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:53
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Whistleri removed them but it still tries to boot up01:53
RQoops01:53
Seveas!pastebin01:53
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood01:53
RQweird irc client...01:53
xliuthanks a lot, all people helps me01:53
AntinomyRQ: SHould I reinstall?01:53
RQAntinomy: does it ignore them both completely?01:53
AntinomyRQ: yes01:53
RQno you shouldn't01:54
RQAntinomy: hoary?01:54
Antinomyyes01:54
AntinomyRQ: grub loads fine and sees the hyes01:54
Antinomykeys01:54
RQmhm...01:55
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RQAntinomy: and even in "single" mode you are unable to type?01:55
ubuntu?01:55
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AntinomyRQ: could this be because I'm loading a x86 onto a AMD 64?01:55
AntinomyRQ: correct01:55
Whistlerwhat is an ntp-server?01:55
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SeveasWhistler, how did you remove them?01:56
Seveasaptitude purge mysql-server should do it01:56
RQAntinomy: yes :D01:56
Seveasor apt-get remove --purge01:56
RQprobably01:56
RQdunno01:56
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RQAntinomy: isn't there a separate release for amd64?01:57
AntinomyRQ:  Yes, probably, dunno - quite a progression there lol01:57
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AntinomyRQ: separate for 64, but everyone told me to use x8601:57
LuNaTiK^GuYhow can i launch wget?01:57
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feAR`just type "wget"01:57
RQhmz weirdos01:57
feAR`:D01:57
RQAntinomy: well if you were able to install x86 on that box, then it's probably working....01:58
aehoWhistler, it has something to do with computers clock I guess01:58
AntinomyRQ: What's working?01:58
thoreauputicLuNaTiK^GuY: for example   wget -C http://foo.bar.com/file-to-download01:58
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RQAntinomy: the way everyone suggested01:59
thoreauputicoops : should be lower case -c01:59
Whistlerany ways of making ubuntu boot faster?01:59
RQfeAR`: get out, you gentoo user!! :P01:59
feAR`* arch01:59
feAR`:D01:59
LuNaTiK^GuYit starts in console....01:59
AntinomyRQ: so why won't it recognize my kb?01:59
RQfeAR`: whatev01:59
feAR`RQ, i`m using ubuntu as well...;p02:00
thoreauputicLuNaTiK^GuY: yes, it's a command line tool02:00
RQAntinomy: have you upgraded your kernel before it started doing so?02:00
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LuNaTiK^GuYthoreauputic, and where is it storing it?02:00
AntinomyRQ: before what did so? Ubuntu?02:00
RQyes02:00
thoreauputicLuNaTiK^GuY: your working directory (that you call it from)02:00
AntinomyRQ: I don't know. I'm a n00b.02:00
RQbefore ubuntu started ignoring your input02:00
RQhm02:00
AntinomyRQ: oh. this is a fresh install02:01
thoreauputicLuNaTiK^GuY:  read  man wget - it has about 70 options02:01
AntinomyRQ: I've never hit a command line that took a command yet02:01
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Whistlerany ways of making ubuntu boot faster?02:01
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xozWhistler: avoid rebooting02:02
SeveasWhistler, if you are experimental, try init-ng (google for it)02:02
RQAntinomy: try reinstalling from amd64 disc then02:02
RQat least that's what i would do02:02
SeveasWhistler, if not: live with the current situation.02:02
Antinomyrq: k, will do.02:02
LuNaTiK^GuYthoreauputic, does wget resume a download?02:02
Whistlerk02:02
xozwget -c02:02
Seveas-C02:02
Whistlercause i rebot few times a day02:02
Whistler=] 02:03
PDyes LuNaTiK^GuY02:03
thoreauputicLuNaTiK^GuY: of course - that's what the -c option is for02:03
LuNaTiK^GuYoh ic02:03
Seveaseh crap02:03
Seveas-c indeed02:03
xozheh02:03
xozprogs using CAPs are l33m02:04
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thoreauputicLuNaTiK^GuY: I suggest typing   wget --help | less to see options02:05
LuNaTiK^GuYthoreauputic, yes i'm reading the options rite now :)02:05
thoreauputicLuNaTiK^GuY: :)02:05
VaruniI'm having problems with Ubuntu and DHCP. Anyone in here who may be able to help me out?02:05
LuNaTiK^GuYlooks cool :)02:05
thoreauputicLuNaTiK^GuY: indeed - wget is a gem :)02:06
LuNaTiK^GuYi'm downloading eclipse....hope its worth the size :D02:06
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phixionim getting very annoyed now :/02:07
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phixiontrying to install ctorrent, running ./configure, 'checking for C++ compiler default output... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables'02:08
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thoreauputicphixion:  sudo apt-get install build-essential02:09
AntinomyRQ: could this be related to the fact that windows doesn't see my monitor, but uses a default?02:09
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chris_^Hi02:09
Raptoidselamlar.02:10
phixionTHANKYOU thoreauputic!02:10
chris_^I just upgraded my Breezy, because X was broken for some days... now it works fine :) But i can not Switch the tty's with alt+strg+F1-F6? 0o02:10
thoreauputicphixion: :)  No problem02:10
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RQAntinomy: dunno. You might want to set your BIOS to default values btw02:10
AntinomyHow can I boot from an install disk without hitting GRUB?02:10
AntinomyRQ: bios? what's that?02:11
holycowchris_^, and what?02:11
RQyou set CD to be your first boot device in BIOS02:11
holycowyou expect help with something in pre alpha stage?02:11
Antinomyk02:11
RQAntinomy: ooohhhhh02:11
RQok.. i see..02:11
AntinomyRQ: ?02:11
AntinomyRQ: what?02:11
RQBIOS is Basic Input - Output System :)02:11
AntinomyRQ: good news?02:11
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Antinomyoh02:11
RQno...02:11
chris_^holycow? i can't switch O_o i boot up to gdm, but i can not go to the TTY1.. nothing happen if i press the three keys 0o02:11
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bob2Whistler: if you know what they do and are sure you don't need them, yes02:11
holycowchris_^, so bloody what?02:11
AntinomyI know how to do that.02:11
holycowwhy are you using breezy?02:12
RQit's just you're the first linux user i see not knowing what BIOS is ;)))02:12
holycowdo you really think anyone can really help you with something in pre alpha stage?02:12
holycowhow about reinstalling breezy ?02:12
chris_^holycow, its just on my Testing-PC02:12
chris_^on my workstation runs Hoary :P02:12
RQAntinomy: you get to BIOS by hitting Del or F1 or some other key while the PC is in the early boot stage02:12
holycowi meant reinstall hoary02:12
holycow:)02:12
holycowhaha!02:12
AntinomyRQ: Well, I'm not so much a linux user as an ubuntu user.02:12
thoreauputicholycow: you could try being a bit less bellicose, methinks02:12
RQwell, you get to the BIOS configuration utility, to be precize02:12
holycowthoreauputic, *sigh* maybe, it just seems ... so obvious02:13
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AntinomyRQ: The attraction being that I would need to be a comp. engineer to tell Bill Gates to fuck off.02:13
AntinomyRQ: but so far...02:13
Nameeateris there a command to eject the cdrom?02:13
RQNameeater: eject02:14
thoreauputicNameeater:  "eject" - funnily enough02:14
Nameeateroh.. ta :)02:14
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AntinomyRQ: is Grub the same as floppy here?02:14
RQAntinomy: eh?02:14
Whistleris zone alarm aviable for ubuntu?02:14
RQgrub is software02:14
RQfloppy is hardware :D02:14
RQit physically cannot be the same02:15
nightswimWhistler: no way02:15
thoreauputicAntinomy: GRUB is a boot loader - it has nothing to do with devices02:15
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AntinomyRQ: in bios. It's telling me the boot order is flopy, CD, HD, net02:15
cruxnoris it possible only to include some special packages from ubuntu-backports? i only want the java-stuff but not the mozilla etc. when i run an apt-get upgrade02:15
Whistlernightswim sad i dont like firestarter02:15
Whistler=[02:15
RQAntinomy: that's ok02:15
Antinomyk02:15
RQput the install CD in02:15
Whistlerany other good firewall?02:15
thoreauputicWhistler: there are much better Linux firewall tools02:15
RQand exit bios02:15
thoreauputicWhistler: a simple one is firestarter02:15
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nightswimwhy would you want to use crap like zone alarm if there is real software available02:16
Whistlerthoreauputic i have firestarter but it doest do anything02:16
SeveasWhistler, you need to tell it to do things....02:16
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Antinomyrq: well, I changed the boot order, and it's still loading Grub.02:17
WhistlerSeveas any tutorial?02:17
thoreauputicWhistler: you want bells and whistles or security ? It does exactly what is needed02:17
RQAntinomy: not the CD?02:17
SeveaswHisKy, fs-security.com02:17
SeveasWhistler*02:17
Antinomyrq: well, I changed the boot order, and it's still loading Grub.02:17
RQAntinomy: did you save the settings?02:17
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AntinomyRQ: yep.02:17
RQweird02:17
RQand the CD doesn't boot yet?02:18
thoreauputicWhistler: firestarter has a wizard for heaven's sake: you need a tutorial?? It's trivially easy02:18
Antinomyrq: no.02:18
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xozWhistler: guidedog or shorewall02:18
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Antinomyrq: ok, so now I can't even reinstall? What the hell?02:19
RQwait wait...02:19
RQthis doesn't fit02:19
RQunless the CD isn't bootable02:19
Whistleri have firestarter set up02:19
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Whistlerbut anybody can ping me or scan my ports02:19
SeveasWhistler, so?02:20
thoreauputicWhistler: and?02:20
Seveasthat is perfectly secure....02:20
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Whistleri better like when nobody can do that02:20
Antinomyrq: let me try the 32 disk that "worked", unless you don't count a functioning keyboard as "work"02:20
holycowthen you wont be on the net02:20
treviI need to compile hplip (hp printing software). Install build-essentials (as guide says), but "make" fails...02:20
thoreauputicWhistler: then look for the filtering options in the config dialog02:20
RQwhat do you mean Antinomy?02:21
treviwhat else do I need to compilig...?02:21
SeveasWhistler, it gives you NO security at all to block pings...02:21
Seveas...or portscans...02:21
holycowping is harmless, and the only way people CANNOT scan you is if your computer is powered down02:21
AntinomyRQ: my x86 worked - it installed ubu. let's see if I can boot from there maybe the 64 CD is messed up02:21
thoreauputicWhistler: disabling pings is kind of bad form anyway02:21
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Seveasindeed02:21
RQah ok :)02:21
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holycowjust make sure you have all unnecessary ports closed02:21
Seveasit's breaking quite a few RFC's to block pings and scans :)02:21
RQtrevi: what does make say?02:21
holycowwhat Seveas said, that too02:22
Whistlerfor example zone-alarm does that02:22
Whistlerand its perfectly fine02:22
holycowno its not02:22
thoreauputicWhistler: for example, zone alarm is breaking RFCs as Seveas said02:22
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trevisomething about can process "all"02:22
holycowbreaking rfc's is not fine02:23
Seveaszone alarm is crappus maximus02:23
thoreauputicWhistler: and you can ignore grc.com on this subject as well02:23
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Seveasgrc is paranoid02:23
holycowthoreauputic, hehe!02:23
Whistlerk k02:23
Whistler=] 02:23
AntinomyRQ: if it doesnt see my kb, then is it a driver issue or something?02:23
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Whistlerso is there any way to show me when somebody scans my ports02:24
Whistler?02:24
mumblesdhcp dump02:24
mumblesor something like that?02:24
RQAntinomy: the kernel is bad prolly, or sth02:24
holycowgrc.com guy definately steps over the line of 'reasonable', he reminds me of the conspiracy wackos02:24
rob^Whistler, firestarter will log some of it02:24
thoreauputicWhistler: have you actually bothered to *look* at the interface for firestarter? that's exactly what it does02:25
Whistleri know02:25
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chris_^root@Asterix:/home/chris/Downloads/porn-get_0.5.1 # porn-get update02:25
chris_^Hit: sex-mission.com Packages [374] 02:25
chris_^Hit: tommys-bookmarks.com/babes.shtml Packages [996] 02:25
chris_^Hit: tommys-bookmarks.com/pornstars.shtml Packages [999] 02:25
chris_^Hit: tommys-bookmarks.com/centerfolds.shtml Packages [737] 02:25
chris_^Hit: tommys-bookmarks.com/cumshots.shtml Packages02:25
Whistlerbut it never alerted me02:25
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holycowfor example, before winxp, he was complaining that ms didn't allow raw access to tcpip ports, when xp added raw tcpip access, he complained that it would ruin the internet and allow script kiddies to do all kinds of things02:25
holycow*sigh*02:25
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frankI was just thinking about the grc guy. What he considers safe is being completely inivible02:25
Seveasstupid porn spammer....02:25
Whistler=] 02:25
thoreauputicWhistler: for heaven's sake - the little button turns red in case you weren't looking...02:26
coobraSeveas: hunt him and kill him slovly02:26
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emanuelezhello02:26
IFRFLYRHi, I'm trying to make a dd image of my home directory and keep getting a message that the filesize is too large. I'm using dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/home/nick/usb/root_partition_iso_150505.iso  bs=65535 - any ideas?02:27
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emanuelezafter playing with gaim-vv now gaim doesn't show icons anymore... how can i reinstall it cleanly? i tried apt remove and install it again but i had no luck with that. any hint?02:27
SeveasIFRFLYR, probably your /home partition is bigger than the space left on your USB drive....02:28
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IFRFLYRSeveas, actually, no, the USB drive is wide open and significantly larger.02:28
Seveasemanuelez, the icon cache is in ~/.gaim, remove the buddies.xml to reset it (it will reset any aliases you have set too, but not your contact list)02:28
emanuelezSeveas: r u tring to write the iso image in the same dir u're dumping?02:28
Seveasemanuelez, I'm doing nothing :)02:28
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chris_^-_-02:29
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emanuelezSeveas: oppss.. sorry.. that was for IFRFLYR02:29
weitao__hi, I have a problem when I use gThumb to print a photos . it has always blank at the edge, how can I do to reduce it?02:29
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jamesI'm connecting to cups via localhost:631 and its asking me for the CUPS password, I've tried both my own login and the root login, is there a seperate password for cups02:29
holycowjames, there is no cups web interface02:30
holycowforget that02:30
holycowuse the cups gnome manager plz02:30
holycowsystem/admin/printing02:30
jamesI've been trying that, but I can't get it to print02:30
holycowfirst, printing from what02:30
holycowsecond, what printer?02:30
holycowdid you check linuxprinting.org to see if printer is supported?02:31
holycowsorry, just throwing out a checklist02:31
jamesanything, this includes a "test page", gedit, firefox02:31
holycow:)02:31
IFRFLYRemanuelez, no different physical drive02:31
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holycowthird is it connected locally via cable, or over the network02:31
holycowetc.02:31
IFRFLYRemanuelez: dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/home/nick/usb/root_partition_iso_220705.iso  bs=6553502:32
jamesa local printer on the paralel port - a samsung ml-1210 laser printer02:32
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Gouramiplease help with mounting, first I get smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)02:32
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james** (gnome-cups-manager:5287): WARNING **: connect = 'parallel:/dev/lp0'02:32
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Gouramiso then I do sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/smbmnt02:33
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IFRFLYROR does anyone have a better way to mirror a root partition to a backup drive?02:33
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Gouramithen I get libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root.02:33
Gourami11685: Connection to zatrm054 failed02:33
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emanuelezit seems i also miss some gaim files in /usr/share... how can i force it to reinstall?02:34
emanuelezIFRFLYR: dunno...02:34
IFRFLYRYeah, me neither. googling some more I guess. . . .02:34
jamesThe print jobs are showing up in /var/spool/cups/02:34
holycowjames, *hmmm*02:34
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emanuelezis there an apt-get reinstall or something?02:35
evanproWell lookie there02:35
jamesThough the gnome-print-manager thinks they are now processed02:35
Gouramianyone help with mnt problems, I am following the wiki but getting sudo related problems02:35
evanproThere's my answer, right in the topic02:35
travelleranyone here got java to work on ubuntu amd64 before? i followed the howto to no avail02:35
Amaranthemanuelez: sudo apt-get install --reinstall foo02:35
evanprotraveller, yeah, mine is working02:35
evanproDid you use make-jpkg ?02:36
emanuelezAmaranth: wohoo! thx! :)02:36
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eeverttiis ubuntu good for firewall/router?02:36
travellerevanpro: yeah, everything on the howto02:36
othernoobtraveller: java hasn't been completely ported to amd64 yet..02:36
holycowjames, i'm at a loss because that issue is at a much more granular level than most generic print issues ... sounds like an issue between the printer and the /dev/lpt device ...02:36
travellerothernoob: oh no....that's bad news02:36
othernoobeevertti: rather use freesco as firewall/fouter02:36
holycowjames, and i'm not sure how to debug those unfortunately, sorry :/02:36
thoreauputiceevertti: a dedicated firewall/router like Smoothwall would be easier02:36
othernoobtraveller: iirc the javawebstart and javaplugin hasn't been ported, but the JRE has02:37
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jamesI'm getting permission denied whenI try sudo cat test.pdf > /dev/lp002:37
travellerothernoob: ok i think that's my problem, i needed the plugin02:37
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othernoobtraveller: sucks :/02:37
vaderMorning people02:37
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travellerothernoob: yeah :/ know any place where i can see the progress?02:38
jamesoccasionally the printer will spin up, after a print, but nothing will actually be printed02:38
othernoobtraveller: i'd assume java.sun.com ;)02:38
Gouramiurgh now the internet is broke02:38
Chris_Tuckeri have kubuntu, and i also have ubuntu livecd, im currently out of cd's and bandwidth, is it possible to use the stuff off livecd to switch the kubuntu installed over to gnome?02:38
Seveasjames, ehrm, that is not the way to print...02:38
Seveasjames, try cat test.ps | lpr02:39
travellerothernoob: oh it's actually sun's fault? i'd figure they would have done everything before letting it go02:39
eeverttiothernoob, another distro, or hardware?02:39
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thoreauputicGourami: the internet is broke? gee, that's serious - but it seems to be working... or we wouldn't be connected ;-)02:39
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othernoobeevertti: freesco is a diskette-big-distro02:40
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holycowGourami, tell us when you finish the guy at the end of the internet02:40
holycow-_-02:40
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othernoobtraveller: i'm quite sure they're working on it :)02:40
Chris_Tuckerlol holycow02:40
Gouramiok its almost broke, at least I got a response !02:40
travellerothernoob: well i sure hope they can do it quick :/02:40
Gouraminow please help me with my mnt problem :002:41
travellerothernoob: doesn't seem like there's anything i can do. thank you02:41
thoreauputicholycow: maybe he meant there was no blue explorer icon on his desktop ;-)02:41
othernoobtraveller: no problem :)02:41
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Chris_Tuckerhahahhahaa02:41
Chris_Tuckeri hate IE02:41
SeveasGourami, wwww.ubuntulinux.nl/files/addsamba02:41
holycowthoreauputic, rofl!!!!02:41
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Seveasdownload and run that02:41
Gouramilibsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root.02:42
Seveasit will add samba shares to your /etc/fstab02:42
jamesprinter powers up, ready for a print, but nothing prints02:42
eeverttiothernoob, k, gotta look for it...02:42
holycowthoreauputic, at work i actually have people refer to their browser as "the internet"02:42
vaderso do I...if it is an older machine that won't run IE6, you are exposed to too many wicked things02:42
GouramiSeveas: I am following the wiki step by step02:42
CarlFKisn't there a package for ati like there is for nvidia?02:42
holycowi go "open your browser" they go "you mean the internet?"02:42
thoreauputicholycow: sad, isn't it ? :)02:42
holycowgotta love it02:42
holycowindeed02:42
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Chris_Tuckerholycow, here at work they have changed the IE icon to "the internet" for the whole network domain :X02:42
othernoobeevertti: http://www.freesco.org/02:42
holycowChris_Tucker, your kiidding?02:43
Chris_Tuckerno02:43
Chris_Tuckerits actually that02:43
v1ru5hi. i'm having SEVERE problems with installing Ubuntu. i believe that my problem will just melt in to the 100's of other questions stated here, could someone who knows about Ubuntu and linux in general just private message me?02:43
v1ru5dpkg doesn't work02:43
holycowjesus, i swear, every year that i am alive, i am amazed at how little thinking people want to do02:43
v1ru5can't install grub or lilo02:43
othernoobChris_Tucker: in which hell do you work? ;)02:43
CarlFKmy gf is cute: "I broke the internet"02:43
v1ru5but the base system seems to install ok02:43
holycowi am more and more amazed even02:43
vaderChris_Tucker; where I work they have switched to Mozilla...02:43
Amaranthplease say you mean firefox02:43
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vaderyes02:44
v1ru5 i need help!02:44
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giannican someone tell me how i can mount a partition on login?02:44
vaderI am the one who builds and maiintains all of the images02:44
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Seveasv1ru5, paste the error on a pastebin02:44
Chris_Tuckerothernoob, a school, im the admin for the summer :/ but thing is i cant really do much adminning due to schoolboard contracts with other tech's .. i just sit here and help people all day02:44
Seveasgianni, add a call to mount to system->prefs->sessions (3rd tab)02:44
Chris_Tuckervader, this school doesnt know what mozilla is02:44
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gianniseveas>thanks02:45
othernoobChris_Tucker: sounds like an..interesting job :/02:45
vaderteach them dide... that is part of the IT admins job, to teach02:45
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jamesgianni: either add it to your /etc/fstab file, or manually mount at prompt mount /dev/hda9 /mnt/disk102:45
vaderdude02:45
v1ru5Seveas: how can i do that without a mouse?02:45
v1ru5it gives out like 2 pages full of errors besides02:45
GouramiSeveas: Unable to determine IP address from host name for wwww.ubuntulinux.nl02:45
Seveasv1ru5, does the machine have a net connectioin02:46
Seveasconnection*02:46
Chris_Tuckervader, they'll think im schemeing02:46
SeveasGourami, www instead of wwww02:46
v1ru5i'm connected from it, from the lil console like thing02:46
coobramouse is for pussys02:46
coobra:P02:46
v1ru5which doesn\t have much commands02:46
Chris_Tuckervader, these people are very very stubborn02:46
Seveasv1ru5, wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin02:46
Seveasv1ru5, and then run dpkg ..... | tee -a errorlog02:46
Chris_Tuckeri have kubuntu, and i also have ubuntu livecd, im currently out of cd's and bandwidth, is it possible to use the stuff off livecd to switch the kubuntu installed over to gnome?02:47
Seveasand cat errorlog | python pastebin02:47
Gouramilol ok02:47
vaderprove it to them and use IE6 against firefox....then show them all of the docs, that is what I had to do02:47
Chris_Tuckervader, i may02:47
SeveasChris_Tucker, no, the live cd contains no packages02:47
coobrahmm02:47
v1ru5Seveas: wget errored on me "read only filesystem@02:47
Chris_TuckerSeveas, damn .. that sucks02:47
weiersHi... I just installed a GeForce6200 video card. But when I reboot the computer, the graphical interface does not want to start. I then logged in on commandline and did an apt-get install of nvidia-glx as well as nvidia-settings. I ran sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and I used VIM to set up a /usr/share/application/nvidia-settigns.desktop file. When I rebooted, Ubuntu would still not start the Graphical User interface (X-org)02:47
Seveasv1ru5, hmm02:47
coobralaptop 450mhz 198ram will it work :P02:48
Seveaswget .... -O /tmp/pastebin02:48
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v1ru5ok02:48
vaderChris_Tucker: I beleive it would be worth your time to throw together a presentation....knock their sox off dude02:48
Chris_Tuckerweiers, run the xorg config program02:48
Chris_Tuckervader, i may02:48
weiersChris_Tucker - could you tell me how to do that?02:48
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Chris_Tuckerbut vader, where could i find legit sites taht would infect ie?02:49
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keikozdo somebdy could help about acpi? when i type acpi -t u just have No support for device type: thermal02:49
Chris_Tuckerweiers, i seem to have forgotten :/02:49
v1ru5umm02:49
vaderjust type in spyware02:49
keikozbut i know that sensors exixsts02:49
Tomcat_weiers: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:49
thoreauputicweiers: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:49
vaderin a google bar lol..........trust me02:49
frankChris_Tucker: there are some. Try to find the image that opens up 100 notepad windows!02:49
Chris_Tuckerthats it02:49
v1ru5Seveas: permission to the file is denied.. :S (i'm a total newb i know :(02:49
Chris_Tuckeroooh! yea those02:50
Seveasv1ru5, looks like your disk is b0rked or something02:50
Chris_Tuckerthanks frank, i wil02:50
vadergtg time for me to get work............bye02:50
Chris_Tuckerl02:50
GouramiSeveas: sorry but that doesnt help me, that reads like something from ubuntuguide...I am using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba to set up the mnt02:50
Seveasdoes mount tell you it's read only?02:50
weiersthank Christ_Tucker, Tomcat_ and thoreauputic02:50
v1ru5Seveas: umm, how do i check that??02:50
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Christ_Tuckeryour welcome02:50
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Seveasv1ru5, type mount without arguments and check if you see ro02:50
v1ru5ok02:51
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SeveasGourami, are you trying to share folders on your machine ?02:51
Chris_Tuckerbleh.. my kitkat went all melted :(02:51
DaemonicUbuntu finally sent me some cds after months of waiting.. I have to say it's quite a nice distro.02:51
GouramiSeveas: no I am trying to mount a shared folder on another machine02:51
v1ru5Seveas: only cdrom has ro, all others are rw02:51
Tomcat_Chris_Tucker: I feel with you :I02:51
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Tomcat_Daemonic: :D02:51
Chris_Tuckerlol02:51
SeveasGourami, then the script I gave you will automagically generate fstab lines if you run it...02:52
Seveascan't be easier02:52
Seveasoh, and dont do the chmod +s thing the wiki says02:52
Seveasit's an error02:52
Chris_TuckerDaemonic, you actually waited? im still waiting for mine, i got so impatient from all the stuff id read, i went and got it myself, dialup didnt stop me.02:52
Gouramiso ok thanks I think, how on earth do I run the web url ?02:52
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Gouramitoo late done it already02:53
DaemonicChris_Tucker, slackware and gentoo kept me happy while waiting. =)02:53
Chris_Tuckerah,02:53
Chris_Tuckerer .02:53
SeveasGourami, chmod u-s /usr/bin/smbmnt02:53
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DaemonicChris_Tucker, I just installed ubuntu a couple hours ago... still playing around with it.. so far I like it...being based off of Debian is good.02:53
SeveasGourami, wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/addsamba02:53
SeveasGourami, sudo bash addsamba02:53
Chris_Tuckeryea Daemonic, it is02:54
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v1ru5the situation here; i've tried to install Ubuntu twice. Everything goes ok, at least it doesn't stop to any errors, but it seems it doesn't install the boot loader (neither lilo or grub) ok.. How to fix this // any ideas/help ????02:55
DaemonicI would have much rather installed it on my other box...which is now deceased because of a power supply failute..02:55
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Daemonicfailure*02:55
v1ru5cause the system gives me the "insert sys disk and press enter" when i try to boot from HD02:55
Daemonicdamn power supply took out everything but the memory ...02:55
GouramiSeveas: is hostname case sensitive ?02:55
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pobstilhow can I disable gdm on startup, and enable other things?02:56
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Chris_Tuckerok, im going to throw up a q, is there a way to download the ubuntu-desktop from the net while not on kubuntu? i'd like to download the gnome one and its requisites from here and carry them home on my thumbdrive because this is the only place in the town with highspeed, there is only dialup at homes02:56
thoreauputicpobstil: enable what, for instance?02:56
SeveasChris_Tucker, what kind of os are you on now?02:56
Chris_Tuckeri have win98 and ubuntu livecd at my disposal02:57
pobstilwell I want to use ubuntu as a server, and enable apache and sshd02:57
v1ru5can i get help here o_O02:57
v1ru5i'm really pissed ya know02:57
v1ru5don't have another box02:57
Chris_Tuckerpobstil, to get you started, sudo apt-get install openssh-server02:57
v1ru5just this02:57
SeveasChris_Tucker, I guess the best option is to download the ubuntu installer iso and use that at home to install ubuntu-desktop02:57
v1ru5which doesn't work, obviously02:57
CarlFKChris_Tucker - guess you can't burn a CD where you are at?02:57
thoreauputicpobstil: disabling gdm is easy enough: echo "false" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager  (IIRC)02:58
Chris_TuckerCarlFK, i used my own burner in one of these computers before for kubuntu but now im out of discs02:58
Seveasv1ru5, do you have some sort of bootsector protection in your bios?02:58
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Antinomyhey all - I get this error when installing from a 64 CD - could not retrieve bsdutils. Thoughts?02:58
Chris_Tucker:X wont have any more for 3 weeks02:58
pobstilhow can I start sshd and apache on startup?02:58
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Seveasv1ru5, and the Ubuntu installer should install grub. If that fails, it gives an error message...02:58
v1ru5Seveas: could it be the virus protection??02:59
v1ru5if i disable that and reinstall again.. could it work?02:59
Seveaspobstil, they are autostarted automagically when you install them (and added to the start-on-boot list)02:59
CarlFKthoreauputic - I found a better way to do "that": sudo sh -c 'echo >x'02:59
Seveasv1ru5, YES02:59
v1ru5ok02:59
v1ru5->02:59
Chris_TuckerSeveas, is there a way to get teh ubuntu-desktop and its requisites .debs via what i have (livecd and w98)?02:59
Antinomyhey all - I get this error when installing from a 64 CD - could not retrieve bsdutils. Thoughts?02:59
pobstilok thanks02:59
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SeveasChris_Tucker, it is possible but very difficult because you will have to figure out all dependencies yourself02:59
Chris_Tuckerpobstil, to get you started, sudo apt-get install openssh-server02:59
thoreauputicpobstil: install openssh-server for sshd and it will be configured to startup03:00
KB2000is there a way to install ubuntu from a live cd? so i can do stuff while installing03:00
Chris_TuckerSeveas, not if what im trying rigth now works, if it does, synaptic will tell me them03:00
pobstilwont that basically start sshd on startup?03:00
CarlFKKB2000 - not yet.03:00
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GouramiSeveas: see output error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/71503:00
Chris_TuckerSeveas, how, if i know them?03:00
KB2000carlfk: but it's gonna be possible?03:00
slask3nI did a expert-install and copied the remaining packages to disk so i dont need inserting the disc all the time, but then i accidentaly pressed enter on the "apt configure"-something and now it doesnt know that the packages is on the disk and asks for the cd, how can i change it back, or what should i write in /etc/apt/sources.list03:01
Chris_Tuckerpobstil, yes03:01
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pobstiljust for reference, can I do that without installing openssh-server?03:01
weiersI just did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in an attempt to get the computer to read/recognise the GeForce6200 card. It took me through a long process asking many questions. I chose the default options on them all, but when I rebooted the xserver still did not start03:01
CarlFKKB2000 - people are talking about it a few months ago - I havn't kept on on the progress03:01
thoreauputicpobstil: erm - how can you run an ssh server without installing it?03:02
Chris_Tuckerpobstil, no, there isnt one there to start till you install one03:02
pobstilsshd is on there by default, you can start it without installing openssh-server03:02
GouramiSeveas: see output error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/715 (when u get a chance)03:02
CarlFKChris_Tucker - I don't suppose you have access to your kubuntu box now?03:03
thoreauputicpobstil: hrm - ubuntu does *not* install an ssh server by default03:03
thoreauputicpobstil: only the client03:03
Chris_TuckerCarlFK, i will in an hour and a half03:03
pobstilgee maybe I did it without realising before then..03:03
pobstil:s03:04
CarlFKChris_Tucker - somehow you need to get A) packages currently on your box and B) packages needed for kubuntu and then sort that out.  no clue how to get either list ;)03:04
pobstilwell I'm off03:04
Will_Anybody know of a decent timer application? I just need something that will beep at me after 30 minutes.03:04
Will_(Yes, I could write a perl script)03:04
thoreauputicpobstil: and you start it with invoke-rc,d ssh start ( not sshd )03:04
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phixioncan anyone tell me how i go about running 'smart update'?03:05
CarlFKChris_Tucker - but... if you could figure out some of the bigger ones, put those on the thumb, take home, add the thumb to your /etc/apt/sources.list and then let apt get the others over dialup03:05
Chris_TuckerCarlFK i know how to get the list of things ubuntu-desktop needs, just go to kynaptic or synaptic and select it, it will say "you also need....."03:05
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CarlFKChris_Tucker - oh yeah...  there you go ;)03:05
zerboxxIs it "safe" to manually install firefox 1.0.6?03:06
Chris_Tuckeradd them to my sources.list as in thats a file with a list of things and where they are or as in thats a folder and dump them there?03:06
Chris_Tuckerzerboxx i have been having some trouble with that03:06
CarlFKChris_Tucker - yeah - just a sec ill find an example03:06
zerboxxChris_Tucker: Ok, thanks03:06
Chris_Tuckerit should work, but you may have trouble03:06
Chris_Tuckerthanks CarlFK03:06
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thoreauputicWill_: sleep 30m && mpg321 loudsong.mp303:07
qt2so... i managed to get three people's, in addition to my own, volume buttons working toraise/lower PCM instead of the Master volume.... oh.. and  their mute buttons to boot ;)03:07
zerboxxqt2: yes you did! thanks again :)03:08
CarlFKChris_Tucker - hmm, not as easy as I though... I have the CD image mounted, and the first line of my sources.list: deb file:///var/www/ubuntu-hoary hoary main restricted03:08
linuksoHi! <stupid question...>Is backports likely to break my system?</sq>03:08
Will_thoreauputic: *grin* I've already considered that... though it might be thr way to go03:08
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qt2linukso, not really.03:08
thoreauputicWill_: I've written a little timer that needs Xdialog if you are interested03:09
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thoreauputicWill_: it's pretty simple - my first GUI thing ;)03:09
silverunohelp, i cant find the place where i can change the resolution03:10
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Will_thoreauputic: Sounds interesting03:10
thoreauputicWill_:  http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/Timer_Script.html03:10
Will_You know, considering my degree I should really code my own in java03:10
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Chris_TuckerCarlFK, i'll figure it out. in a little over an hour im off work for 6 hrs, thats plenty of time to get the info i need and learn about that sources.list03:11
CarlFKChris_Tucker - but there is a file: Packages.gz that apt-get is going to want, no clue how to create that03:11
Chris_Tucker:)03:11
Chris_Tuckerugh ok thats a prob03:11
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CarlFKChris_Tucker - you need to "create a repository"03:11
thoreauputicWill_: why java? Don't give in to the dark side, Luke! ;)03:11
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Chris_Tuckeruh, cant i just dpkg -i these things?03:11
Chris_Tuckerand then apt-get the rest?03:11
Chris_Tuckerthe smaller ones that is03:11
colmoreif i need to have a setserial comman run before x starts, where should I put it?03:12
CarlFKChris_Tucker - maybe...  no clue how depandancies are dealt with if you do that03:12
qt2thoreauputic, gtk based?03:12
linuksoqt2: hmm, really dont want to break my system, but some of the stock ubuntu apps are a bit out of date...03:12
colmoresuch as, linukso ?03:12
CarlFKChris_Tucker - I have a feeling it will be worth it to figure out how to make your thumb into a repository03:12
Will_thoreauputic: Required for my CS degree.03:12
thoreauputicqt2: yes, it uses the Xdialog thing03:12
Chris_TuckerCarlFK, i'll proably figure it out. messing around in synaptic will tell me what depends on what03:12
qt2linukso, i've been using it for  a few weeks, and MY system hasnt broke yet....03:12
CarlFKChris_Tucker - yeah, but that messing around wont teach you anything ;)03:13
Chris_Tuckerwell, CarlFK the thumbdrive wont be on that computer, i have another computer with an httpd, could i do that?03:13
qt2silveruno, System > Preferences > Screen Resolution03:13
colmore./configuring isn't that hard really03:13
CarlFKChris_Tucker - yes03:13
linuksocolmore: f-spot, gaim, blam.03:13
Will_thoreauputic: This is ideal. Thanks!03:14
qt2thoreauputic, xdialog?03:14
Will_thoreauputic: As soon as the java version is ready, I'll let you know *grin*03:14
silverunothanks03:14
thoreauputicqt2:  apt-cache show xdialog :)03:14
colmoredon't know what #s 1 and 3 are03:14
Chris_TuckerCarlFK, think i could find a tutorial on the web for this?03:14
kbrooksChris_Tucker: uh, maybe03:14
colmorerepeat: what script should I modify to have something run at bootup, before X starts?03:14
CarlFKChris_Tucker - one of us should.. I'v been looking03:14
thoreauputicWill_: *shudder* Java is Evil ;-)03:14
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Will_thoreauputic: It's not _that_ bad. But I know how you feel03:15
thoreauputicWill_: heheh03:15
Chris_TuckerCarlFK, im fireing up google :)03:15
qt2thoreauputic, fun.03:15
colmoreJava seems like dead tech next to runtime languages like ruby and python03:15
Madeyeguys, how to get folder content size? i'm connecting through ftp03:15
colmoreand anything you wouldn't want to use those for, you probably wouldn't want to use java for03:16
stew2Where can I download the latest ISO of breezy?03:16
thoreauputicWill_: just don't try to run any fancy commands with that timer - it won't understand more than a simple one03:16
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Will_thoreauputic: I'm just happy with the visual bar. I often find myself doing things like reading, tidying, coding or playing games... And I need to spend X amount of time doing it. This is just what I need to remind me03:17
thoreauputicWill_: great :) It's GPL, of course ;-) heheh03:17
stew2Or is there a hoary I can download with all the patches added??03:17
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qt2thoreauputic, heh, all i could use now is a dialog that mimics the default gnome volume contorl overlay... ;)03:18
Will_thoreauputic: I might consider making something similar in perl, python or ruby. It'd be a good thing for me to practice03:18
thoreauputicWill_: yeah, I did it as an exercise to improve my bash scripting :)03:19
colmorepython is a pleasure after writing in other languages03:19
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Chris_Tuckerwow, CarlFK, first result on the good ole google.CA/linux.... https://www.bioinformatics.uwaterloo.ca/~tvinar/wiki/index.php?DebianLinuxPackaging03:20
colmoreso does anyone know anything about the init process?  I need to put a command in there somewhere to get my tablet PC working03:20
thoreauputicWill_: I'm very much a beginner in scripting/programming03:20
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colmoresame here03:20
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colmorebasically i've learned that C is almost never worth the effort03:20
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tbasteni just got an ATI radeon card and my old card was nvidia. I cant seem to uninstall nvidia-glx03:21
mjrgood for you :)03:21
Raptoidselamlar.03:21
CarlFKChris_Tucker - nice hit - I coulcn't even come close03:21
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Will_thoreauputic: It's nice. I've only brushed through the code, but it does work, so you pass that test03:21
thoreauputicWill_: heh - yes i made sure it worked :)03:21
Chris_TuckerCarlFK, the university of waterloo is good for something :)03:22
alkuoviFirestarter shows an active connection to 127.0.0.1 from ipp and I have already found out that it is made by my printer. Is that connection necessary because I don't have other computers connected to network?03:22
dim_hi everybody03:22
tbastenAnyone have a Radeon card?03:22
tbastenWho can help me with mine03:22
dim_can anybody help install skype with ubuntu?03:22
Chris_TuckerCarlFK, now my only prob is, how do i get these packages?03:22
thoreauputicWill_: it barfs on commands that need arguments etc03:23
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CarlFKChris_Tucker - nother link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocalAptGetRepositories03:23
dim_i have a library problem03:23
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CarlFKChris_Tucker - wget them from archive.ubuntu.com03:23
thoreauputicWill_: but I think I put in a catcher for what it can't handle03:23
jbluHi all, G4 Mac running Hoary ppc. Just starting.  When I dragged my Web site to my home folder, all the files have a lock on them. I did a chown my user but they are still locked. Is this right?03:23
Chris_Tuckerok CarlFK, thanks for all the help03:23
Will_thoreauputic: I'd look through, but I've only 19 minutes left on my current task.. I gotta hurry!03:24
thoreauputicWill_: haha03:24
Chris_Tuckerbleh03:24
Chris_Tuckerdamnit03:24
thoreauputicWill_: I use it to remind me I have a pizza in the oven ;)03:24
Chris_Tuckeri *clicked* the link03:24
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Chris_Tuckernow of course i did this at work and IE pops up..03:25
Chris_Tuckerand now its frozen03:25
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tbastenCan someone help me with uninstalling nvidia-glx please03:25
dim_anyone knows about installing the linux version of skype?03:25
jblucopying from a CD  to my home folder, all the files are locked. Is this normal?03:25
alkuovidim_: did you follow the instructions from ubuntuguide when you installed skype?03:25
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rob^jblu, yes, they are either read only or copied by a different user (maybe root)03:26
dim_no i downloaded the package from the skype.org site03:26
alkuovidim_: ok, you should look this site http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype03:26
dim_thanks, I'll check03:27
jbluok, so they are available to me then, right?03:27
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alkuovidim_: If you have already downloaded skype you can skip the wget command03:27
CarlFKdim_ - I know about it: don't do it ;)   use kphone or one of the other dozzen VoIP phones03:27
rob^jblu yes, but you have have to chmod/chown them to access them03:28
jbluI did , but they still show the lock on them03:28
dim_what is kphone?03:28
rob^what user owns the files?03:28
rob^the same user that your logged on with now?03:28
rob^dim_, a piece of military equipment03:29
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jbluI did chown -R "my user"  /home/"my user"03:29
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rob^jblu, ok, check to see if your user has read/write access to the files03:30
jbluk03:30
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rob^jblu, an ls -la should look something like: -rw-rw-r-  1 rob rob03:31
stew2Is it possible to get a Hoary ISO with all the latest updates?03:31
rob^for example03:31
CarlFKstew2 - i don't think so03:32
stew2CarlFK Like it's possible to slipstream all the Windows XP updates into an XP distro.03:32
jbludrwxr-xr-x03:32
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CarlFKstew2 - but much like installing fromt he live cd, I think it is in the works03:32
dim_alkuovi: thanks a lot for the information: the installation was successful03:33
dim_bye03:33
ciscocan anyone help I get "Temporary failure in Name Resolution" right after clock ?03:33
stew2CarlFK K03:33
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rob^jblu, is the user names the same as the one your logged on with03:33
jbluyes03:33
stew2CarlFK Cause I have a fast broadband connection at the internet coffee shop. But not at home. I have dialup at home and it's per minute.03:33
stew2(Ireland003:33
rob^not only the ones with "d" in front, but the actual files03:33
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stew2+ a sticky keyboard03:33
jbluJust me and root on this computer03:33
stew2(not my doing)03:33
CarlFKstew2 - were you following what Chris_Tucker is doing?03:33
ciscocan anyone help I get "Temporary failure in Name Resolution" right after clock at boot up ?03:34
stew2CarlFK Nope.03:34
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Chris_Tuckerhe wants to plant them IN the iso and have them install with it03:34
rob^jblu, ie: -rw-r--r--  1 rob rob 327359 2005-07-22 22:19 faqguide.xml03:34
stew2Chris_Tucker, Yeah03:34
jbluthanks03:35
stew2Chris_Tucker, Yes I want the patches included.03:35
CarlFKstew2 - k - here is what you do: 1 on your box, figure out what packages you need.  take that list to the coffee shop.  get some good coffee ;)  3 use wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/something to get the .deb files you need03:35
stew2CarlFK, Take the whole box? Hehehe03:35
stew2CarlFK, I've done that too.03:35
Chris_Tuckerstew2, just clarifing to CarlFK, i dont know how. i could make a 2nd cd that ran a script and had them on it but i dont know how to put them in the installer03:36
CarlFKstew2 - 4) take those files home and make your own little local apt-get repository - like explained https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocalAptGetRepositories or https://www.bioinformatics.uwaterloo.ca/~tvinar/wiki/index.php?DebianLinuxPackaging03:36
stew2Chris_Tucker, Hey! That'd be great!03:36
Chris_Tuckerheh -_-03:36
Chris_Tuckerdo you know any bash scripting?03:36
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stew2Chris_Tucker, No.03:36
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stew2Chris_Tucker, Sorry.03:36
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Chris_Tuckerwell learn how to make a simple script03:37
Chris_Tuckerand learn how to have this script load on cd insert03:37
guimDimitri?03:37
Chris_Tuckerthen plant your .deb files you got with wget on there03:37
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ciscocan anyone help I get "Temporary failure in Name Resolution" right after clock at boot up ?03:37
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Chris_Tuckerand make your script install them in the right order so dependancies work03:37
Chris_Tuckeror you could "slipstream" them in, as CarlFK started to explain03:38
rob^cisco, yes, it couldnt look up the dns address of the time server03:38
rob^it may mean your internet connection was not up yet03:38
rob^you can disable it03:38
ciscono03:39
othernoobrob^: how?03:39
slask3nI did a expert-install and copied the remaining packages to disk so i dont need inserting the disc all the time, but then i accidentaly pressed enter on the "apt configure"-something and now it doesnt know that the packages is on the disk and asks for the cd, how can i change it back, or what should i write in /etc/apt/sources.list03:39
stew2hopefully I can just steal broadband off the neighboor03:40
stew2or 'borrow' it. I'll give it back.03:40
ciscook i was using a wireless card maybe that problem pcmcia services not started yet then.03:40
CarlFKstew2 - evaluateing it03:41
rob^to disable the clock sync on startup: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate03:41
Chris_Tuckerhm ok ive installed my samba stuff, how do i access the computer (lan ip) 10.251.81.32?03:43
rob^Chris_Tucker, can you ping it?03:43
Chris_Tuckernetwor:/// is the default prefix it puts there but it doesnt work03:43
Chris_Tuckerhm one sec03:43
Chris_Tuckeryes03:44
CarlFKChris_Tucker - do you have apache running? (that will be easier for the repo thing)03:44
rob^Chris_Tucker, have you tried Places -> network servers03:44
Chris_TuckerCarlFK im not at that point yet, im figureing out once ive gotten my stuff with wget, how to land it on one of these windows computers to get it on my thumbdrive03:45
Chris_Tuckerrob^ that has returned cannot access03:45
Chris_Tuckerwhen i click on this domain03:45
SeveasChris_Tucker, sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate03:45
CarlFKChris_Tucker - got it.03:45
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Seveasah nvm03:45
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Will_Gah. I'm too tired for this. I've slept too much these holidays, and I can't get out of the habit.03:46
CarlFKChris_Tucker - why not plug the thumb drive into the box that you wget ed the files?03:46
Chris_Tuckerwoot i got access03:46
Chris_TuckerCarlFK, never got this thing to work on linux before03:46
Chris_Tuckerif i plug it in where will it appear?03:46
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CarlFKChris_Tucker - it will if it is a good distro ;)03:47
Chris_Tuckerif i plug it in where will it appear?03:47
dinChris_Tucker, prob /dev/sda03:47
CarlFKoh... where... um.. desktop?03:47
benny_what is ubuntus kernel directory?03:47
Chris_Tuckerok03:47
benny_what is the path  i should ask03:47
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Chris_TuckerOh Em Gee!03:48
sphIs there a separate channel for ubuntu-ppc?03:48
Chris_TuckerOMG!03:48
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Chris_Tuckerdamn i like this03:48
Seveassph, no03:48
Chris_Tuckerit picked it up instantly03:48
Seveasbenny_, /usr/src/linux03:48
AntinomyOMG = the rap name of Ice cube's son (Oh My Goodness)03:49
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sphhas anyone tried to modify ubuntu-5.04 ppc so it will boot on an old world mac by using bootX instead of yaboot?03:50
Chris_Tuckerit appeared on the desktop and as /media/usbdisk/03:50
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ciscook is there way to make pcmcia services start before ntpdate clock ?03:51
naliothsph: yes, it can be done, i helped a guy t'other day do it (look for Harold in here)03:51
sph:) great03:51
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benny_OK, don't laugh03:51
benny_benny@konflict:~$ cd /usr/src/linux03:51
benny_bash: cd: /usr/src/linux: No such file or directory03:52
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trakatranubuntu doesnt install de sources03:53
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qt2sph, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallOnOldWorldMacs03:53
sphqt2, nalioth: thanks03:54
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Chris_Tuckerhas anyone here tried using synergy on ubuntu?03:54
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cafuego!wiki InstallOnOldWorldMacs03:55
dinChris_Tucker, no, but i use x2x with it right now :p03:55
Chris_Tuckerx2x = ?03:55
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dinx2x is close to synergy, i control 3 comps in my office with 1 mouse and kb03:56
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Chris_Tuckerhm03:56
=== cafuego just uses ssh
Chris_Tuckerits not cross compatable with windows is it?03:56
Chris_Tuckercafuego what we are talking about is gui03:56
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dinno, it isn't03:56
dinbut synergy is afaik03:56
cafuegoChris_Tucker: vnc03:57
qt2Chris_Tucker, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynergyHowto03:57
Chris_Tuckeryea i know din03:57
Chris_Tuckeromh03:57
Chris_Tuckeromg03:57
rob^Chris_Tucker, I just use XliveCD on windows systems03:57
rob^with ssh03:57
Chris_Tuckerthe wiki has everything03:57
cafuegorun vnc through an ssh tunnel, works fine too.03:57
qt2whats what wiki's are good for ;)03:57
Chris_Tuckercafuego, i dont need teh vid going too, just keyb and mouse :)03:57
Chris_Tuckersynergy is like a kvm just doesnt switch the vid and is software03:58
Chris_Tuckerno lag either :)03:58
cafuegoChris_Tucker: that's not very useful for a box 2000km away ;-)03:58
dincafuego, with x2x or synergy, all you do is just pull your mouse to the side of the display, and voila.. it shows up on the next computer03:58
Chris_Tuckercafuego, i use vnc in those cases03:58
Chris_Tucker:)03:58
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silverunois there any danish people here, that can help me i danish please03:58
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ellrichello guys03:59
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qt2silveruno, help you do what exactly?03:59
Ngwhat should one do with reports of broken multiverse packages?03:59
qt2`lo ellric.03:59
silverunoi need to install java03:59
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Ngsilveruno: look in the wiki03:59
qt2Ng, bugzilla perhaps?03:59
silverunowiki ?03:59
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Ngsilveruno: url is in the topic, go there and search for java :)03:59
Seveassilveruno: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 03:59
qt2silveruno, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java03:59
Ngqt2: hmm, I thought they weren't supposed to go in there, but that was a while ago04:00
ellriccan someone direct me to a ubuntu packet archive? im looking for a kernel image package < 2.6.1004:00
Chris_Tuckerholy shit04:00
Chris_Tuckerthey have made it REALLY easy to use synergy on ubuntu04:00
Seveasellric, there are only packages for warty (old ubuntu version) with older kernels like that04:00
qt2Ng, just guessing, i dont know.04:00
ellricany ETA on 2.6.12 then?04:00
silverunothanks, ill try04:00
killapopChris_Tucker, whats synergy04:00
qt2ellric, for? breezy? hoary? warty?04:00
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ellrichoary04:01
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Chris_Tuckersynergy lets you use two computers, in the graphical interface, with one keyboard and mouse04:01
Chris_Tuckerdrag your mouse to teh edge of one screen it appears on the next04:01
Chris_Tuckerit does this via your network, and usually without any lag04:01
killapopChris_Tucker, wow04:01
zythDoes ubuntu support Esperanto as a language?04:01
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killapopChris_Tucker, i can see some wicked uses in the office now :)04:02
qt2ellric, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4213804:02
killapopChris_Tucker, thanks for that little droplet of enlightenment.04:02
Seveaszyth, yes04:02
Chris_Tuckerkillapop, im testing it here at work with ubuntu livecd and windows 98. (i forgot to mention its cross platform)04:02
Seveaszyth, language-support-eo - metapackage for Esperanto language support04:03
killapopChris_Tucker, jeeeez04:03
Chris_Tuckeri'll be usign it at home with xp and ubuntu04:03
zythSeveas, thank you :)04:03
killapopChris_Tucker, i'll hook up my ubuntufied laptop now and see :))))04:03
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killapopChris_Tucker, do u need it installed on both platforms.. one running as a host like vnc or anyhting?04:03
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Chris_Tuckeryes04:04
ellricqt2, whats Breezy?04:04
killapopChris_Tucker, ok cool04:04
Chris_Tuckerread the manuals. i tried to do it without reading them on windows - windows .. and its very hard if you dont read them04:04
qt2ellric, the current develpment version of ubuntu04:04
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killapopChris_Tucker, alrighty04:05
drgplacehello all04:05
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ellricso there will be no 2.6.11+ for hoary?04:05
Chris_Tuckerhttp://synergy2.sourceforge.net/index.html << and >>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynergyHowto04:05
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phixionCan anyone give me some info please? What should I run after a fresh install of Ubuntu? 'upgrade', 'dist-upgrade' or do it through ubuntu update manager?04:07
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Seveasphixion, upgrade04:07
Seveasand you should also have the security repositories enabled :)04:07
phixionI use the repositories in ubuntuguide.org, is that ok?04:08
Chris_Tuckerhow do i find out the dns name of my livecd run?04:08
Seveasphixion, NO04:08
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phixionwhich ones should I be using? :)04:08
Seveasphixion: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3804:09
robert__Quick question re: partitioning during ubuntu install...04:09
Chris_Tuckerbleh04:09
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Chris_Tuckerits jsut .. ubuntu..04:09
Chris_Tuckerlol04:10
drgplacei upgrade to breezy an when it rebooted it now will not give me a windows session can some help04:10
phixionSeveas, should i delete the repositories in my sources.list and add them? or add them to the end?04:10
robert__I am replacing Fedora Core 4 with Ubuntu, already have a / and /home partition set up...04:10
ellricdoes anyone else is having problems with accessing SATA drives on a AMD64 system (32 bit ubuntu) with kernel 2.6.10?04:10
Seveasphixion, delete and add04:10
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robert__During install process, I reformatted / and kept /home as is...04:11
phixionSeveas, thanks for the help04:11
Joose^hi04:11
Seveasphixion, wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/pastebin.php?download=38 -O /etc/apt/sources.list04:11
qt2...i dont understand why ubuntu doenst allow people to upgrade to the latest ernel via synapti... i mean... dont they want people to have the latest kernel+ubuntuedits?04:11
robert__But when I boot into ubuntu it logs me out immediately.04:11
phixionthankyou mate :)04:11
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qt2most other distro's handle it that way, and ti seems to be a very good way to handle it... o.O;04:11
Seveasrobert__, you might need to delete .Xauthority and .ICEauthority from your homedit04:12
Seveashomedir*04:12
robert__There was an option in the partitioning stage of the install that asked me if I wanted to "use" certain partitions04:12
qt2robert__, there's some files you need to remove to regain access.04:12
robert__qt2 -- the .Xauthority and .ICEauthority that seveas just mentioned?04:12
tbastenhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5103104:13
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qt2robert__, probably.04:13
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robert__So I should just remove .Xauthority and .ICEauthority and reboot.04:15
Joose^ubuntu can be configurated (graphics, etc) for run with no much memory ram=04:15
Joose^?04:15
drgplacehow do i get x-window do restart04:15
CarlFKI wonder if apt-get upgrade would work with: alias wget='echo wget $1>>gets.sh'04:15
phixionJoose^, you tried using xfce?04:15
CarlFKdrgplace - ctrl-alt-backspace04:15
Joose^no...04:15
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phixiondesktop environment, meant to be good for low end pcs04:15
Chris_TuckerOMG, IMO, synergy is better than dual monitors.04:16
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drgplaceI have upgraded to breezy an when it reboot it want start x-windows now.04:16
Joose^is in ubuntu, u can choose in the install not?04:16
robert__I'll take that as a yes. Thanks!04:16
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qt2tbasten, tried doing it with compolsite disabled?04:17
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Joose^phixion is in ubuntu, u can choose in the install not?04:17
phixiontry looking for it in synaptic04:18
phixionbrb04:18
slask3nI did a expert-install and copied the remaining packages to disk so i dont need inserting the disc all the time, but then i accidentaly pressed enter on the "apt configure"-something and now it doesnt know that the packages is on the disk and asks for the cd, how can i change it back, or what should i write in /etc/apt/sources.list04:18
holycowheh04:18
qt2Joose^, it's in synaptic.04:18
holycowlooks like the ubuntu fellas just added firefoxes last 'patch set' that makes fox crash with certain extensions04:19
holycowyey!04:19
holycow:)04:19
qt2holycow, lol.04:19
Joose^phixion oka04:19
qt2holycow, so they ported over the bugs too, eh? ;)04:19
holycowehe, i just updated and fox stopped working :)04:20
holycowbeautiful thing about linux is its so easy to get most apps to behave04:20
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holycowjust by deleting the user preferences for the app04:20
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phixionSeveas, how can I upgrade firefox now? I have version 1.0.2, I don't think I have the right repositories to upgrade it04:22
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Joose^i'm new ubuntu user and i wonder how i install for example a driver for the sound card, ubuntu find the driver or is manually the process?04:22
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Seveasphixion, you have 1.0.2 with all 1.0.3/4/5 security patches applied04:22
slask3nI did a expert-install and copied the remaining packages to disk so i dont need inserting the disc all the time, but then i accidentaly pressed enter on the "apt configure"-something and now it doesnt know that the packages is on the disk and asks for the cd, how can i change it back, or what should i write in /etc/apt/sources.list04:22
Chris_Tuckeri wonder how nice edubuntu is gonna be04:22
slask3n?04:22
phixionok, so my system is fully up to date now?04:23
Seveasslask3n, remove the CD entry from /etc/apt/sources.list04:23
Seveasphixion, if after you edited sources.list you typed apt-get update && apt-get upgrade: yes04:23
xavhi everyone! i am using breezy at the moment and having some troubles with xorg and xkb... xorg tells me it couldnt find the keymap04:23
phixionSeveas, ok thankyou for the help :-)04:23
Seveasxav, looko at the topic...04:24
xavalthough iam pretty im using the right steeings04:24
qt2Joose^, what sound card?04:24
xavseveas: too late :)04:24
Joose^<Chris_Tucker> i wonder how nice edubuntu is gonna be <-- man, i don't speak english very well...04:24
Joose^qt2 yes04:24
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xavseveas: i ve been running it for more than one month now04:24
Seveasxav, X in breezy is simply broken... no matter what your config is...04:24
qt2joolz, huh?04:24
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Chris_Tuckerern,.. edubuntu is the educational version of ubuntu04:24
xavseveas: okay... i ll wait then04:25
qt2xav, you're outta luck till x is fixed. ;)04:25
Joose^<Chris_Tucker> i was thinking than u say that for me.. xD04:25
xavqt2: at least most of my keyboard is correctly working :)04:25
Joose^sorry04:25
qt2xav, indeed.04:25
qt2Joose^, so what sound card do you have?04:26
xavqt2: ... but it gets hard to do some latex work under emacs :(04:26
Joose^soundblaster04:26
qt2Joose^, which one?04:27
xavjoose it should be automatically detected04:27
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qt2Joose^, what zav said.04:27
Joose^qt2 yeah i know but in case don't detected it .. how install the driver...04:28
Joose^?04:28
xavany idea when the fglrx driver for breezy will be released ,, (no xkb so no question mark)04:28
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xavjoose are u sure it is not mute04:28
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phixionwhat do I need in the options part in my fstab file to make the HDD's appear in "computer"? 'users,defaults,errors=remount-ro'?04:28
qt2Joose^, if it's not detected, you can come back here, and people will help you. :)04:29
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Joose^xav no, ubuntu detected it, i answerinf how install drivers in ubuntu...i mean.... how install a driver for example a sound card...!04:30
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megauserhello ;-)04:31
Gouramihi Seveas please see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/715 re my mnt problem04:31
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Joose^for the console .. i guess..04:31
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qt2joolz, it varies from driver to driver.04:32
qt2oops04:32
qt2Joose^, it varies from driver to driver.04:32
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Joose^qt2 ok... ; =04:33
qt2Joose^, most drivers can either be installed via synaptic, or downloaded and installed, with instructions on the webpage you downloaded them from.04:33
phixionSeveas, how do I install java now? its not in my repositories04:33
Joose^qt2 ummm now understand...04:33
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Seveasphixion, download the jdk.bin from java.sun.com and run fakeroot make-jpkg jre_....bin04:34
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Scognitohi04:35
frescohello brothers!04:35
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weiers_I did something very silly. I reinstalled Ubuntu because I could not get my new Nvidia card to work in a plug and play way. But when I reinstalled, i forgot to tell Ubuntu to put my /home/weiers directory on the partition hda7. Can somebody tell me how to change my fstab to do this?04:35
gigaclonanyway to change the Java theme in firefox04:36
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jazzbass_bon alors j'ai regarg pour mon problme de vido04:37
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Seveasjazzbass_, #ubuntu n'est pas un canal franais04:37
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Antinomyanyone know of a good calendar app for ubu?04:37
Seveasjazzbass_, va  #ubuntu-fr pour franais04:37
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r0dweiers,  how many harddrives do you have 7?04:37
weiers_I have two harddrives. HDA and SDA04:38
qt2http://moon.google.com/04:38
Seveasr0d, hda7 = 3rd logical partition on second primary04:38
r0dahh logicall never used04:38
r0dwhats the point to logical anyways04:38
Antinomyanyone know of a good calendar app for ubu?04:38
sphyou can only have 4 primary - so you split one primary into several logical to get around the limit.04:39
weiers_When I look at my fstab, I do not see another dev/hda...... /home/weiers entry, but when I add /dev/hda7     /home/weiers default 0 0 entry, I cannot reboot04:39
weiers_At least the moment I moun /home/weiers the system stops working04:39
Gouramiplease can someone help me mounting a share on a remote computer, we are on a domain if that helps04:40
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erchachehi04:41
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AntinomyFolks - anyone know about what I can do to get UBU to recognize my keyboard?04:41
frescoSorry, can someone give me an advice. How to allow only one copy of the process in memory? The thing is... How to make xine not to open files in several windows?04:41
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Antinomythis is my 3rd install04:41
erchacheim triying to install ubuntu amd64 but doesnt have sata_nv modules....how i can get it?04:41
ruschiHi fellows. Is ther eabybody who can run "sketch" it fails with strange errors?04:41
weiers_Gourami, what networking programs do you have installed?04:41
ruschierror is in some tk call: TypeError: function takes at most 4 arguments (8 given)04:42
sproingieerchache: try getting linux-restricted-modules04:42
Gouramion Ubuntu or MS ? (local machine Ubuntu - remote 2003 server) I have samba and smbfs on the local machine04:42
erchacheuhmm04:42
erchachesproingie: where?04:42
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dataw0lfgood morning people.04:42
weiers_ok, then I am not really qualified to help you. I did it for the first time today between two ubuntu computers using nfs.04:42
qt2"Studies have shown that grilled cheese on toast is 97% better than libtool."04:43
SeveasGourami, try accessing it via places -> connect to server04:43
sproingieerchache: from apt.  should be linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-6-amd64-k804:43
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erchachehehehehe04:43
erchacheim triying to INSTALL04:43
erchacheyou know04:43
sproingieerchache: actually i'm not sure that has sata_nv ... i thought it came with it04:43
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qt2gotta love planet.ubuntulinux.org... ;)04:43
GouramiSeveas: it works via places, I can even right click and say mount04:43
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amichaihow do i reinstall an app?04:43
Scognitoive just installed hoary but cannot play mp304:43
weiers_please, is anybody willing to help me change the place where I mount my /home folder?04:43
Scognitoi read the wiki but gstreamer0.8-mad is not avaiable in the extra04:44
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sproingieerchache: actually i think mine came with them.  what motherboard do you have?04:44
Scognitonor in universe04:44
Scognitosome hin?04:44
GusWrkhey guys, I'm looking for a tool to monitor my network (kinda like ethereal) but that will alert me when traffic goes over a certain volume.  any ideas?04:44
GouramiSeveas: I cant get it working via the terminal (I want to set up a cron to copy files)04:44
sproingiehow do i find out what package a file belongs to?04:44
sphnmap?04:44
amichaianybody?04:44
amichaihow do i uninstall firefox?04:44
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rekaScognito: it *is* in universe afaik04:45
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sproingiei wonder if i just tought uboto a faq04:45
GusWrknmap is just port scanning04:45
sproingietaught even04:45
rekaScognito: you enabled it?04:45
frescoamichai04:45
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Scognitommm04:45
frescogo to Synaptic package manager04:45
amichaifresco: ?04:45
frescoand uncheck firefox04:45
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GouramiSeveas: did you see the output nick@ZATRM087:~$ sudo bash addsamba04:46
Scognitoreka, i added deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted04:46
weiers_sproingie ... who was that comment aimed at. Are you able to help me change my the place where my /home directory is mounted04:46
Scognitoas the wiki says04:46
amichaifresco: no cos it unistalls a bunch of dependencies i just want the apt-get command04:46
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rekaScognito: which wiki might that be :-/04:46
amichaifresco: apt-get --reinstall or whatever04:46
reka?04:46
Scognitothe official04:46
Poet_Will\hello all04:46
Scognitoin the topic04:46
ruschiapropos firefox: Still strange effects here under KDE. firefox does not react on keyboard entries nor does it follow links i clicked04:46
slask3nWhy do I get this "Could not open resource for writing." errormessage all the time for?04:46
sproingieweiers_: just copy over the old /home to the new location then change it in fstab04:46
joolzi have serious mozilla-firefox problems in hoary since this mornings update04:46
frescoSystem-Administration-Synaptic Package Manager04:46
joolzconstant segmentation faults04:46
joolzis it a known issue?04:47
rekaScognito: direct link to page?04:47
sproingieweiers_: make sure you use cp -a or you'll hose everyone's permissions04:47
rekaScognito: that looks like backports04:47
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Scognitohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:47
rekaScognito: for a sample sources.list with universe and multiverse enabled: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3804:47
Scognitobtw i edited manually sources.list04:47
slask3nWhy do I get this "Could not open resource for writing." errormessage all the time when i try runing a movie/mp3 for?04:47
ruschiin Firefox I can't type any url or fill out forms but opening links in new tab works, just I can't switch the tab then04:48
sproingieerchache: anyway, i have a amd64 on an nvidia mobo with only sata, and both ubuntu and kubuntu installed fine ... not sure what the problem is, but sata_nv should be on the install cd04:48
joolzanyone else have firefox segmentation faults since the last update?04:48
ruschino04:48
weiers_sproingie ... ok, I am not quite sure which one is old and which one is new. Is the old one the one that I had on a previous install?04:48
frankjoolz: its a common problem04:48
frescoHey, folks. What does "Following applications won't be upgraded - firefox, firefox-gnome-support" ?04:48
ruschijust upgraded and it runs except fro the problems I told you before04:49
joolzhas someone already filed a bug?04:49
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frankyeah and the guy who made the package knows04:49
sproingieweiers_: i don't know what your particular setup is.  you're trying to reinstall without changing /home?  don't reformat /home, and it shouldn't destroy it04:49
joolzfresco: i guess it means good news for you :)04:49
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JanCfresco : sounds like you use backports ?04:49
joolzfrank: ok, thanks04:49
fresco:)04:49
GouramiSMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it ??? what does that mean04:50
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jeranOkay.. viruses aren't an issue for Linux.. what about spyware/adware?04:50
rob^jeran, nope04:50
Scognitogot it working, tnx re04:50
Scognitoka04:50
rekaScognito: aha04:50
weiers_sproingie ... what happened is that I had a /home/weiers under a previous install on a seperate partition. I then reinstalled ubuntu, but neglected to tell the installer to keep that partition as home. it has now made a new /home partition (exactly the same name as my old home partition, but in the place that used to be only my root partition.04:50
frankjoolz: the easiest way to update is to install the official firefox as a user04:50
frescoWell, yes04:50
rekaScognito: the repo you pasted is hoary-extras04:50
frescoam I doin' wrong?04:51
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weiers_but now that space is very small, and all my settigns etc is in the other partition. sproingie04:51
rekaScognito: the topic with gstreamer0.8-mad tells you to look at section 2, which shows you how to enable universe and multiverse.04:51
erchachesproingie: im trying to install via netboot04:51
erchachei dont have cdrom04:51
rekaScognito: not hoary-extras :)04:51
aioi'm trying to find some information on connecting two pcs together via firewire for the purpose of filesharing.  anybody got any pointers?04:51
rob^aio, ouch04:52
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sproingieerchache: ah. that's my usual preferred method too.  i guess unless you can find a netboot image that has the drivers, you'll need to burn a full iso04:52
erchachesproingie: when try to download release file fails....i think is for sata driver04:52
erchachei dont have cdrom!04:52
erchacheim using pxe netboot04:52
AntinomyAnyone know what to do if UBUNTU doesn't recognize my keyboard after install?04:52
Scognitoreka, eh he04:52
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rob^ethernet is designed for data transfer, usb is designed for canon scanners <- or firewire in your case04:52
phixionbuy a new keyboard Antinomy  :D04:52
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aiorob^ painful to try?04:52
stjepanhello04:52
erchachesproingie: i doesnt have cdrom.....netboot pxe04:53
Antinomyphixion: so not funny at this point (third install)04:53
stjepanhello, Seveas04:53
stjepanwhere is Seveas?04:53
sproingieerchache: sounds like the problem may be at the remote end.  i don't know pxe unfortunately04:53
aiorob^ i've seen a link to do tcp/ip over firewire, but i'm not sure that's what i want.04:53
dj28rob^: firewire is fine for large data transfer04:53
erchache:S04:53
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dj28in fact it's recognized as a networking device in most OSes04:53
rob^aio, I cant think of a good guide, if you already have nics in your pc thats a much easier way to do it04:53
sproingieweiers_: just go into fstab and change the partition it mounts for /home to the old one04:53
aiorob^ yeah - i'm specifically looking to access and manipulate video dumps - very large avi files.04:53
slask3nI get this error when try running a mediafile "Totem could not play 'file:///home/slask3n/Kai Tracid - Too many times.mp3'. - Could not open resource for writing." anyone knows why?rr04:53
sproingieweiers_:  then if you have new data in your new /home, just mount it somewhere else and copy the files over04:53
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aiorob^ 100mbit is just going to be dog slow....04:54
rob^aio, well firewire may suit you better for that04:54
rob^but your case is not the norm04:54
aiorob^ I *could* do nfs, but that'd just be painful...04:54
AntinomyAnyone know what to do if UBUNTU doesn't recognize my keyboard after install?04:54
rob^aio, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26192.html04:55
willertAntinomy: what kind of keyboard do you have, anything special?04:55
rob^not sure how much info is there, might give you some pointers04:55
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Antinomywillert: Nope, it's built in on my laptop04:55
weiers_sproingie ... my fstab has a /proc mount and a / mount and a none mount (swap) and then it mounts the cdrom and the floppy, but I do not see the /home mount there. Do I just create it?04:55
willertAntinomy: you are on hoary?04:56
Antinomywillert: compaq presario 4000 series AMD04:56
Antinomywillert: yes04:56
dj28aio: http://www.linux1394.org/eth1394.php04:56
dj28aio: might want to check that out too04:56
dj28not sure if it will help04:56
Antinomywillert: BUT - installed from x86 instead of 6404:56
sproingieweiers_: your /home is just a subdir of your root dir, so you don't need to worry about remounting it.  you will have to mv it to some other name tho04:56
willertAntinomy: and you can't type anything after boot-up?04:56
Antinomywillert: yep..nothing even in single mode04:56
aiorob^ looking at that link now, thx04:57
Antinomywillert: I blew away my dual boot and reinstalled - same problem04:57
rob^np04:57
aiodj28 i'll check that out, too, thx04:57
sproingieweiers_: mv /home /oldhome; mkdir /home; mount /dev/whatever /home; cp -a /oldhome/* /home04:57
stjepanheya04:57
stjepanI have adsl04:57
stjepandownloading works perfect04:57
stjepanbut surfing is very slow04:57
sproingieweiers_: then edit /etc/fstab to point /home at the old home partition partition .  delete /oldhome when you verify everything works04:57
stjepancan you help me?04:57
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weiers_sproingie,  I don't beleive I have anything in my current home (soon to be /oldhome) that I want to copy. ... this install is just about 30 minutes old. can I just move it and delete it then.04:59
amichaiexit04:59
stjepanlook04:59
amichaiq04:59
Stranjohlw, how can I change the locale of my distro?04:59
sproingieweiers_: yeah, probably04:59
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stjepanhey04:59
sproingieweiers_: if you upgraded distros, you'll probably want to move your old .gnome dirs out of the way05:00
stjepanwhere can I paste log?05:00
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willertAntinomy: sorry, I don't think I can help you there... my keyboard problem was due to the X transition in breeyz and I've no experiences with amd64 at all... do you have any chance to try the amd64 installer instead of the x86?05:00
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ruschiq05:01
ruschiquit05:01
GouramiSeveas: I found the problem I think, its a windows 2003 server restriction http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8479&highlight=cli_negprot%3A+SMB+signing+mandatory+disabled+it.05:01
naliothreka: ya been here all this time?05:01
Antinomywillert: I will try it now...thanks05:01
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rekanalioth: somewhat05:02
stjepanso?05:02
stjepanwhere can I paste log?05:02
naliothsproingie: #flood05:02
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stjepanI want to show it to you!05:02
stjepan05:02
reka*sigh*05:02
sproingienalioth: yeah but that's a nasty hack05:02
sproingienalioth: i guess a pasteserv wouldn't have all that nice hilighting and commenting either05:03
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MIK3MANhey peeps05:04
stjepanso?05:04
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MIK3MANanyone know the command like apt-get, but its like apt-find, it searches for packages??05:05
Gouramiok I now have my mount !! how do I refer to it from a terminal ??05:05
stjepanhey geks05:05
stjepangeeks05:05
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stjepanhttp://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1345KHML35MKU0TYGNKX3S86KY05:06
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stjepandownload this05:06
stjepanit is log05:06
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weiers_sproingie , I think i did it right, but I am getting error when I say : mount /home/weiers: mount point  /home/weiers does not exist05:07
weiers_or do I need to create a new directory on the root partition called, home/weiers?05:08
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Gouramiwhat is the reference to go to a mount from the terminal ? //mountname eg ?05:08
sproingieweiers_: you just mount /home.  and you need to change your fstab if you're going to mount without giving it a partition05:09
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sproingieGourami: you just cd to the directory05:09
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JingleBellsi've been having trouble setting up VNC to work on :0 desktop05:09
sproingieGourami: that's what mount does.  makes a partiton available as a directory05:09
qt2should i be installing any special nvidia driver for a geforce 4 mx 440?05:09
stjepanso?05:09
stjepancan you help me?05:09
JingleBellsit works, provided i'm on the machine and click the "Allow access to this desktop" button that appears05:09
weiers_Sproingie... so I have now added the following line to etc/fstab05:10
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Gouramisproingie: where does the directory sit (virtually)05:10
JingleBellswhich is useless when i'm not at the machine05:10
sproingieGourami: wherever you mounted it05:10
weiers_/dev/hda7    /home    ext3    defaults   0     005:10
rekaqt2: depends ... if you want 3d accel/direct rendering, then yeah, probably.05:10
sproingieGourami: usually the dir itself is in the root partition05:10
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GouramiI cant find it under home05:10
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qt2reka, hm, my card already has direct rendering it seems <.<;05:10
sproingieweiers_: ok, that looks good.  did you move the old /home out of the way?05:10
JingleBellsI followed http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/x0.html is there anyway to stop the dialog that appeared?05:11
weiers_yes, sproingie05:11
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sproingieGourami: i lack the context, not sure what the problem you're having is05:11
weiers_now I type: mount /home  (sproingie05:11
sproingieweiers_: create a /home directory (mkdir /home)05:11
weiers_then it says: mount point /home does not exist05:11
weiers_ok ... I will create05:11
rekaqt2: then you're good to go... (unless you want to see if there are any performance improvements with other drivers)05:11
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Gouramisproingie: I have mounted a remote drive, under computer I now have the mount sitting there, I want to access it via the terminal. It is not a share on my local pc but on a remote server05:12
xliuanyone knows how to configure the shutdown window(it pops up when you choose Logout in the system menu)? As I reinstalled acpi and acpid yesterday, some choice element such as "suspend the system" disappers05:12
sproingiewhere did you mount it?05:12
rekastjepan: what are you trying to do?  what exactly is your problem?05:12
qt2reka, heh, i've learned not to mess with a good thing ;)05:12
weiers_WOW!!!!! Suddenly I get all my desktop icons back,05:12
sproingieGourami: what command did you type to mount it?05:12
sproingieweiers_: sounds like it worked05:12
gyaresuhi folks05:13
weiers_I'm just looking because it still does not want to open my home folder in nautilus now05:13
rekaqt2: understandable :)05:13
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GouramiI used sudo bash addsamb sproingie05:13
gyaresuquestion: is nautilus capable of 'click + drag' selecting? cause i can't find any reference to it at all.05:13
weiers_sproingie... It also does not want to start my Thunderbird programme. I want to see if I still have al my old emails.05:13
qt2reka, i havent even touched my kernel yet o.o;05:13
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sproingieGourami: i have no idea how addsamb works ... sorry :(05:14
thespiritoftalhi05:14
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WhistlerI removed firefox and now i cant view help  files05:15
rekaqt2: you make it sound like it's commonplace ... i've only recompiled once, and that was done by following instructions.05:15
thespiritoftalcan someone tell me again how to install java in ubuntu? Today seveas has told me but I got disconnected :/05:15
Whistlerany suggestions?05:15
thespiritoftalI have the .bin file already05:15
Gouramisproingie: is it smbmount or sudo smbmount ?05:15
weiers_sproingie (I wonder if I need to just log out and in)05:15
Whistlerthespiritoftal www.ubuntuguide.org05:15
rekano05:16
qt2reka, it is if you're not using ubuntu.05:16
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erchachewell i install my own image mirror for ubuntu netboot install and fails05:16
stjepancan you help me/05:16
stjepan?05:16
tbastenqt2, um it working but games are really laggy05:16
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rekathespiritoftal: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]  (credit goes to Seveas)05:16
erchachei think i dont have sata driver installed05:16
thespiritoftalthx reka :)05:16
erchacheyeha05:16
WhistlerI removed firefox and now i cant view help  files05:17
Whistlerany suggestions?05:17
weiers_sproingie - it does not even want to start my firefox now.05:17
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JingleBellshas _anyone_ run VNC on :0 ?05:17
erchacheanybody know a netboot with sata enable?05:17
rekaWhistler: reinstall firefox? :-/05:17
erchachehow i can make my own netboot with sata?05:17
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Nermalhmmmm05:17
Nermalany gstreamer plugins play m4a files ?05:18
rekaWhistler: hmmm, looks like the help system is actually called 'yelp'05:18
deliregreat news: http://news.com.com/IBM+steps+into+open-source+Java+project/2100-7344_3-5798290.html?tag=nefd.top05:18
stjepanso?05:18
stjepanhelp me, please05:18
Whistleri know05:18
stjepan:(05:18
rekaWhistler: maybe you removed that somehow...05:18
Whistleryelp: Depends: mozilla-firefox but it is not going to be installed05:18
Nermalah.. faac05:18
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delireWhistler: help fiels are in html. your default html reader is firefox. therefore you won't be able to read help file with your uninstalled default browser.05:18
stjepan:(05:18
AmaranthWhistler: Get rid of backports?05:19
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rekastjepan: i don't know what your problem is....you never answered when i asked.05:19
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Whistlerso how can i make opera my default browser?05:19
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Amaranthyou can have opera be your default, you just have to leave firefox installed05:19
Whistlereem05:19
delireWhistler: there'll be something in the gnome control center to set this. have a poke around -- i don't use gnome here.05:20
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AmaranthSystem->Preferences->Preferred Applications05:20
sproingieweiers_: not sure, it might not like the old profile info?  mozilla suite is notoriously fickle about old profiles05:20
WhistlerAmaranth this sounds like windows that i have to have IE installed05:20
Whistlertheres no opera in that list05:20
AmaranthWhistler: It's exactly the same, actually.05:20
Amaranthblame opera :P05:20
Amaranththey need to put themselves in that list05:20
stjepansorry, reka?05:20
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stjepanreka: can you repeat that, please?05:21
AmaranthWhistler: Windows uses IE for help, etc. Ubuntu uses firefox for help, etc.05:21
Whistleranyway what should i do tu make opera default?05:21
Whistlerto05:21
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JingleBellsi'd rather have firefox installed than IE anyday :)05:21
Whistlerme too05:21
Whistler=] 05:21
delirei'd rather be sitting on a beach earning 20%05:21
naliothWhistler: system  > preferencec > preferred apps05:22
Amarantheventually we'll have the gecko runtime environment seperate from firefox and yelp can just use it05:22
delirehmm05:22
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Whistlernalioth theres no opera in that list05:22
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MIK3MANis there a repository I should be adding to install apt-get install java-package fakeroot??05:22
AmaranthWhistler: There is a 'custom' though.05:22
naliothWhistler: i believe you can browse or add it05:22
stjepanreka?05:22
AmaranthMIK3MAN: multiverse05:22
epWhat's a well regarded command line IRC client?05:22
Amaranthep: irssi05:23
stjepancan you repeat that, pls?05:23
weiers_sproingie What is better. Reinstall the whole thing, but do it properly this time, or uninstall firefox and thunderbird and reinstall via synaptic?05:23
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Whistleri am setting custom05:23
MIK3MANAmaranth: I have it, and its updated05:23
Whistleropera %s05:23
weiers_sproingie, but as I said, I also cannot get nautilus to launch05:23
Whistlershould i run enable run in terminal?05:23
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sproingieweiers_: i don't know what's in your old home ... it might be better to just copy out your old /home somewhere else and selectively copy stuff back in (but not desktop stuff like icons, you'll want to recreate those)05:24
naliothWhistler: opera is not a terminal program05:24
MIK3MANAmaranth: correction, I dont have it, I have universe... can you show me??05:25
naliothweiers_: sproingie is talking about all those nifty little .folders with your settings05:25
Amaranth!repositories05:25
uboturepositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:25
sproingieweiers_: you can probably find your old mail file somewhere and reimport it, for example.  but using your old settings all at once may just cause pain05:25
AmaranthMIK3MAN: go there05:25
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erchachehow i can load scsi module on boot:  when i try to install?05:25
erchachei have sata05:25
Whistlerany way of installing few apps via single apt-get command?05:25
nalioths_dogMIK3MAN: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3805:25
Gouramisproingie: if I go to computer the mount sits there exactly like filesystem does05:25
naliothWhistler: list them on the same command05:25
AmaranthWhistler: sudo apt-get install foo bar baz05:25
MIK3MANthanks guys!05:25
Whistlerthx05:25
sproingieerchache: you should probably mention you're using PXE boot, lest people give you the same bad advice :)05:25
sproingieGourami: a mount point is a filesystem05:25
sproingiewhen it's mounted anyway05:26
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Gouramisproingie: how would you ref to that via terminal ?05:26
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sproingieGourami: you just cd to wherever you have it mounted05:26
Gourami\\mountname ?05:26
sproingieGourami: i don't know where it puts smb mounts05:26
Gouramisproingie: thats my problem I dunno where it is05:27
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sproingieGourami: type 'mount' in a terminal05:27
sproingieGourami: that will show you all your current mounts05:27
Whistlergrr,05:27
wing`someone there can help me please?05:27
sproingiewing`: just ask05:27
Gouramiah ha /media/....05:27
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wing`i downloaded enemy territory from 2 different website with 2 differente download managers and it gives me same fucking error05:27
wing`Md5 checksum05:28
Gouramiwhat an odd place, thanks though sproingie05:28
sproingiemedia, what a wrong place to put smb mounts05:28
wing`error in md5 checksum05:28
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sproingieit's probably a LSB thing05:28
Gouramisproingie: how can I kill it05:28
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sproingieGourami: umount /whatever/mount/point05:28
sproingieGourami: note there's only one 'm' in umount.  blame at&t05:28
wing`sproingie, do you know how to fix that?05:29
dverzollaHi, I want port the openoffice of Ubuntu-hoary to my default language (pt_BR). I find openoffice in the /pool/main/o/ directory. If I change the .deb's from default openoffice to my openoffice version this will work? My idea are do a CD for some students with total pt_BR support.05:29
sproingieGourami: one 'n' even05:29
sproingiewing`: don't use the US repositories05:29
sproingiewing`: they appear to be permanently hosed05:29
hacked`guys, how do i know which driver my wifi card is using ?05:29
wing`??, sry i dont get it05:30
wing`repositories?05:30
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rekasproingie: interesting ... how is that at&t's fault?05:30
Amaranthreka: UNIX legacy05:30
Gouramisproingie: I get mount disagrees with fstab05:30
thor|afksproingie: heh - I don't think he's getting enemy territory from a repo ;)05:30
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supernixhave they released a doc on how to secure ubuntu ?05:31
wing`im downloading it directly from IDSOFTWARE ftp05:31
Gouramisproingie: nevermind I had to do sudo05:31
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wing`thor|afk, do you know what could be?05:32
Whistlercan i have gnome and xfce installed at the same time?05:32
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weiers_sproingie ... a logout and login got the programmes to work again05:32
supernixWhistler: I would think so I have Gnome and KDE at the same time05:32
supernixThey are both just windows managers right ?05:33
thor|afkwing`: no idea, sorry - md5sum errors suggest bad downloads, of course05:33
AmaranthWhistler: I've got GNOME, KDE, and XFCE all on this machine.05:33
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dverzollaHi, I want port the openoffice of Ubuntu-hoary to my default language (pt_BR). I find openoffice in the /pool/main/o/ directory. If I change the .deb's from default openoffice to my openoffice version this will work? My idea are do a CD for some students with total pt_BR support.05:33
supernixwhat is XFCE ?05:33
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WhistlerAmaranth so can i just install?05:33
Amaranth!xfce05:33
ubotuAmaranth: Are you smoking crack?05:33
Amaranthhaha05:33
hondjehehe05:33
Whistler=] 05:33
AmaranthWhistler: yeah05:33
weiers_sproingie ... thank you very much for your help. I just need to get my sound system to work properly. Last time Crimsun helped me with that by telling  uobotu bot to give me rirections. I might have saved the directions somewehere05:33
hondjesupernix: XFce is a light weight desktop environment05:34
supernixty hondje05:34
hondjeIt's pretty nice, worth looking at :)05:34
rekadverzolla: i could be wrong ... but check out the openoffice.org-l10n-pt-br package (portugese - brazil)05:34
wing`thor|afk, i used downloader for x, and after that i tried with the simple download manager from mozilla05:34
wing`and it doesnt works05:34
JingleBellstried wget?05:34
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Whistlerhow do i install xfce?05:35
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dverzollareka, but if I junt put the file in the directory of CD installation and I burn a CD. The instalation will install the .br version?05:35
JingleBellshave you got the URL for it wing`, i'll download it now05:35
hondjeWhistler: 'sudo apt-get install xfce4' in a terminal05:35
thor|afkWhistler: sudo apt-get install xfce405:35
wing`its a little big05:35
wing`260mb05:35
JingleBellsyeah, i'm on 10MBit :)05:36
JingleBellsand i need to install ET anyway :)05:36
wing`ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/et/linux/et-linux-2.60.x86.run05:36
rekadverzolla: hmm, CD install ... that'll be tougher05:36
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dverzollareka, yes. I want distribute a CD with openoffice.BR for my students.05:37
Whistlerand how do i start xfce?05:37
JingleBellspfft, what a crap FTP server05:37
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AmaranthWhistler: log out and click the 'session' button05:37
AmaranthWhistler: on the login screen05:37
wing`its the official ftp05:37
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dverzollareka, I know if have a channel with ubuntu-developers?05:37
dverzollareka, You know ;)05:37
Whistlerok ill try05:38
Whistler=] 05:38
rekadverzolla: not sure sorry ... i only know how you would go about changing it to brazilian after default english install05:38
Quest-Masterdverzolla: #ubuntu-devel05:38
erchachefuck05:38
Amarantherchache: Please don't swear.05:38
dverzollareka, Ok, thanks05:38
dverzollaQuest-Master, Tks05:38
erchachei cant install ubuntu amd64 on my hp dl145 sata05:38
rekadverzolla: does the openoffice site provide a brazilian version?05:38
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erchachei have a big problem on my job!05:38
dverzolladverzolla, Yeap05:38
Gouramisudo mount or sudo smbmount ??05:38
erchachei never buy a hp server on my life05:38
rekadverzolla: is that yes for me?05:39
dverzollareka, http://www.openoffice.org.br/saite/05:39
dverzollareka, Yes ;)05:39
rekadverzolla: why not download that and install it for your students that way?05:39
Gouramito mount a remote share sudo mount or sudo smbmount ??05:40
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hypermodernistIs there a Xen package for ubuntu or has anybody sucessfully installed Xen from the tarballs?05:40
wing`JingleBells, please tellme when you got the game05:40
gyaresuquestion: is nautilus capable of 'click + drag' selecting? cause i can't find any reference to it at all.05:40
dverzollareka, I'm doing some CDs for students. They have very basic knowlegde about Linux.05:41
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rekagyaresu: only in icon mode afaik05:42
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dabaRhi.05:43
gyaresureka, thanks, i'll look into it.05:43
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MIK3MANI have a problem : when I run the fakeroot make command it tells me that I should not be doing it as root, but as a non-root user. When I run as a non-root user I do not have permission to create the .deb file. Is there a work around this??05:43
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gigaclonsudo?05:44
wing`someone there can help me with a lan problem?05:44
DevGetIs it possible to have booth kde and gnome installed?05:44
bob2MIK3MAN: use fakeroot as a normal user05:44
gigaclonyes05:44
rekaDevGet: absolutely05:44
bob2that works fine for everyone else05:44
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bob2aside from on like mipsel05:44
delirehypermodernist: a question that's been on my mind too. i see it's in SuSE..05:44
DevGetjust install kubuntu-desktop?05:44
gigaclonya05:44
wing`i got two cards, eth0 (router ADSL modem, configured with DHCP) and eth1 (direct connection to a windows XP machine) do i have to put IP Address and stuff in eth1, or just leave it DHCP too?05:45
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DevGetk, thx :)05:45
rekaDevGet: yes, if you want KDE05:45
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rekaDevGet: then jsut select it from the sessions menu at the login screen05:45
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bob2wing`: depends what you want to do05:45
bob2it's find if you're ok to statically configure windows, too05:45
DevGetreka, k, so i will keep gdm as login manager?05:45
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wing`bob2, i want to share the internet connection with the WIndows pc05:46
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rekaDevGet: yep05:46
DevGetgood :)05:46
bob2wing`: yes, I know05:46
Amaranthfabbione: ??05:46
Swoop|Aroundquestion: how do i unpack a single file from a backup.tar.bz2 file ?05:46
bob2fabio uses like pana irci from 1943 or something05:47
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wing`and i dont know what to put in the windows pc network meno (its all set to AUTO), and dont know what to put in eth1.. :/05:47
fabbioneAmaranth: ?05:47
Swoop|Aroundsomehow my xorg.conf is messed up (didnt touch it though since i havent used the computer for over 10 days, and worked before i left)05:47
wing`meno = menu05:47
JingleBellsright, just downloading off a mirror wings, 1.1MB/sec :)05:47
bob2Swoop|Around: man tar, tar -jxf foo.tar.bz2 path/to/file05:47
Amaranthfabbione: what was that?05:47
Swoop|Aroundso i want to extract only the xorg.conf file from the backup.tar.bz205:47
bob2wing`: well, decide what you want to do05:47
Swoop|Aroundthanks bob2 :D trying now05:47
wing`bob2, i dont know what to do, i just want it to work05:47
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bob2wing`: well, you need to make some sort of decision05:48
wing`bob2, about what?05:48
masterplanhi, if i install the ubuntu AMD64 version, will all the packages i install be 64bit complaint/05:48
bob2wing`: go find a windows using friend and get them to show you how to configure windows with a statically assigned ip05:48
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wing`i can do that05:48
masterplanwhat is BREEZY ?05:48
bob2masterplan: nearly all the packages in the ubuntu amd64 port are 64-bit amd64 binaries, yes05:48
dabaRwing`: its easy.05:49
fabbioneAmaranth: my client remembers bans and kicks people on join if bans expired for any reason05:49
bob2masterplan: the development version of ubuntu, which is not ready for general users yet05:49
sproingiemasterplan: yes, everything you install is 64bit.  you will probably want to add a 32bit chroot for some apps tho05:49
dabaR /query me05:49
masterplanhow can i know if a package is or not ?05:49
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wing`but i dont know what gateway i should put, what ip address in both eth05:49
bob2masterplan: is it openoffice? no? then it's native.05:49
bob2wing`: the gateway is the internal ip of your linux machine05:49
masterplank05:49
masterplan:)05:49
sproingiebob2: openoffice is 32bit?05:49
masterplanhow can i find informatin on chrooting 32bit?05:49
bob2(afaik)05:49
sproingie!32bit05:50
ubotusproingie: I don't know, could you explain it?05:50
masterplanyeah05:50
dabaRgateway is usually not needed.05:50
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bob2sproingie: I'm pretty sure it still doesn't build on amd6405:50
sproingie!chroot05:50
wing`bob2, ok so it is 192.168.254.105:50
ubotumethinks chroot is at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457505:50
bob2dabaR: gateway is always needed05:50
dabaRfor what?05:50
masterplantnx05:50
Amaranthfabbione: we do unban some of those people...05:50
sproingiemasterplan: that link above is an excellent resource for 32bit chroot05:50
bob2dabaR: so the computer can reach the internet?05:50
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_frankmasterplan: a few things are hard to get working. flash pluggin, windows codecs, I had problems with sound and media players for KDE05:50
dabaRwhat are you guys setting up?05:50
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samantacruchhi friends05:51
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sproingiei installed 32bit firefox to get flash05:51
dabaRho friend/05:51
dabaRhi.05:51
samantacruchi need to know how can i say UBUNTU to load proftpd at Start (boot) .. thanks!05:51
sproingienot that i ever make much use of flash actually, but it's nice to have sometimes05:51
_franksproingie: did you get kaffeine to work?05:51
MIK3MANbob2: when I run the makeroot command as a non-root user it denies me permission to compile the .deb file I need to dpkg....05:51
samantacruch=)05:51
bob2samantacruch: just install it05:51
bob2MIK3MAN: you mean "fakeroot"?05:52
sproingie_frank: far as i know, that works in 32bit.  come to think of it, sound didn't work tho.  i don't do much media stuff on the linux box05:52
samantacruchbob2,  but dont start at boot05:52
sproingie_frank: er i mean it works in 64 bit05:52
MIK3MANbob2: yeah sorry, fakeroot05:52
bob2MIK3MAN: also, you'd need to paste the entire error, including the command line you used to #flood05:52
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bob2sproingie: yes it does05:52
bob2bah05:52
bob2samantacruch: yes it does05:52
_franksproingie: I never could get kaffeine to work. And had a hard time getting the chroot to see stuff in /media even though /media was binded05:52
smitehey.. how can i upgrade libc6 to version 2.3.2.ds1-21?05:52
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samantacruchbob2, i'm sure it dont05:52
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bob2samantacruch: and I'm sure it does05:53
sproingieonly media stuff i use on linux is stills from my camera05:53
unfhi05:53
bob2samantacruch: explain why you think it doesn't05:53
wing`bob2, do you know where i can get a step-by-step tutorial for making lans trough winxp and ubuntu?05:53
sproingieobviously don't need many codecs for that05:53
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bob2smite: don't screw with libc, please05:53
smitelibc6 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is too old for most stuff... i need to install the newer one05:53
bob2you don't need to upgrade it, whatever you may think05:53
smitebob2: why not?05:53
bob2smite: no, you don't05:53
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dabaRsmite, it is bad for your health.05:53
Spiritual_Vagabohi, i just installed Ubuntu05:53
bob2smite: the software you're trying to use is not intended for use on your version of ubuntu05:53
bob2smite: find software that is05:53
smitesynaptic returns: gtk2-engines-experience:05:53
smiteDepends: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed05:54
bob2wing`: no, sorry.  it\'s just normal network setup05:54
Spiritual_Vagabobut I am unable to get internet working05:54
sproingie_frank: never tried looking at media in the chroot actually.  only external devices i have are my mmc/sd card reader and my camera itself05:54
bob2smite: so, your sources.list is broken05:54
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Spiritual_Vagaboi have a DSL Broadband connection05:54
bob2smite: for example, you pointed it at some Debian packages05:54
dabaRsmite, ya, your sources.list has something it shouold not.05:54
bob2smite: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood and we'll tell you which lines to nix05:54
Spiritual_Vagabocan anyone tell me wat I shud do to get it working?05:54
smitebob2: ok, i tried to use a debian repo because compiling experience-engine failed :-/05:55
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_frankSpiritual_Vagabo: do you have a username/password for internet?05:55
samantacruchbob2,  because when he finished to boot and i try to ftp on he dont work and netsta -an dont report me any 21 used, then if i do proftpd command line it work!05:55
smitealright... how do i use 2 channels at once in irssi?05:55
hybrid_gothSpiritual_Vagabo: they easiest way is to get a router05:55
wing`bob2, i need to put an static ip in my eth1 (ubuntu) interface too?05:55
bob2samantacruch: well, someone broke it, by default it runs05:55
JingleBellswing`, I downloaded it off a 3dgamers mirror and it works fine05:55
sproingieshe's a programmer, but she still pulls this "that's technology, i'm a girl, that's too hard" business.  i can't figure her out.05:55
bob2wing`: yup05:55
hybrid_gothsmite: /j channel then alt 1 alt 2 alt 305:55
wing`JingleBells, :/05:55
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samantacruchbob2,  where can i put the proftpd command and ubuntu load me at start?05:55
JingleBellshttp://3dgxfer3ra.3dgamers.com/%5E1581417761/3dgamers/games/wolfensteinet/et-linux-2.60.x86.run05:55
Spiritual_Vagabo_frank, yeah, but I have a router and its all set up on taht05:56
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wing`but you got the same problem with IDSOFTWARE ftp?05:56
JingleBellsit was too slow to test, you'd have been waiting 4 hrs :)05:56
bob2samantacruch: sudo update-rc.d proftpd defaults05:56
Spiritual_Vagabohybrid_goth, I have done the easy bit, but it dont seem to be that easy05:56
bob2MIK3MAN: where are you running that command?05:56
samantacruchbob2,  thanks much05:56
djpanyone have any idea why firefox seems to lock-up at certain times? page appears to be still oading, however if you try and stop the load, press on the back arrow etc., nothing happens... if you try and quit you have to force quit in order to then restart firefox over again. any ideas?05:56
JingleBellsmd5 is 2d2373f29f02e18d365d7f1860eee43505:57
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wing`Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: 5ccbde57e325af16acca64cc929dfa2e is different from b8b59bc515d86cc845fb52f5d2c1442305:57
dabaRdjp: cause it is a program.05:57
_frankis the us archive still broken?05:57
dabaRis it?05:57
JingleBells270965248 et-linux-2.60.x86.run05:58
wing`bob2, and what gateway i should put in eth1 setup?05:58
rndrdbrianA little problem, trying to mount my  usb memory card reader, "mount /dev/sda1 /media/xd -t vfat" gives /dev/sda1 does not exists.05:58
JingleBellsthats the szie I have05:58
JingleBellssize*05:58
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djpdabaR: do you consider firefox to be a pretty flaky browser then?05:58
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smitebob2: i pasted sources.list05:58
tbastenI have downloaded the ATI drivers for my graphics card. I ran the config and i have now got a "Error activating XKB configuration."05:58
Chris_Tuckeruhm05:58
dabaRwell, it crashes, epiphany more often, I use epiphany moer anyhow.05:58
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Chris_Tuckerhow can i force apt-get to ignore dependancies?05:58
wing`LOL JingleBells05:58
dabaRdjp: I mean, its a program, it crashes, thats how I think.05:58
wing`mine got 64mb05:58
wing`i think i found the error05:59
wing`:P05:59
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dabaRmaybe you can submit a bug or something.05:59
rekadjp: something to try: type 'about:config' in the url bar, then filter for 'ipv6' and set the found setting to true.05:59
Chris_Tuckerthese dependancies on this specific app are wrong05:59
Chris_Tuckerso i have to override, how would i do this?05:59
JingleBellsthe ID ftp was incredibly slow05:59
JingleBells30k/sec05:59
tbastenAnyone know how to setup the drivers for an ATI card?06:00
rndrdbriancan anyone help please?06:00
tbasteni was first06:00
tbasten:P06:00
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rekaChris_Tucker: er, forcing could lead to breakage ... but there should be an option: 'man apt-get'06:01
Spiritual_Vagabowat? cant any one help me to get internet going on ubuntu?06:01
wing`whats better gnome or kde? :P06:01
dabaRrndrdbrian: well, it does not exist.06:01
reka!ati06:01
ubotuI guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:01
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dabaRSpiritual_Vagabo: for what? wireless?06:01
Spiritual_Vagabono, dsl broadband thru a router06:01
dabaRwing`: gnome.06:01
dabaR:)06:01
Chris_Tuckerreka, i no longer need this, turns out its not a dependancy, but an already broken package for some reason06:01
rekatbasten: those aren't the "official" ati.com drivers though06:01
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rndrdbriandabaR, I have alsao tried sda1 - sda4, through to sdd1 to sdd4. neither exist06:02
tbastenreka, ? i downloaded them from the ati site06:02
tbastenreka, i got the ati installer06:02
dabaRsure it is connected? did it work before?06:02
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tbastenso... where do i get from?06:02
dabaRSpiritual_Vagabo: ok, well, a router, that means set up your conmputer for dhcp/.06:02
dabaRand it works like a charm.06:02
rekatbasten: that wiki page talks about the xorg-fglrx drivers.06:02
dabaRrewboot power cycle, whatever you have to do,.06:02
Spiritual_Vagaboyeah dabaR06:03
djpreka: network.dns.disableIPv6, would that be the one? iti s currently set as false. should i change that to true?06:03
Spiritual_Vagaboi need to configure DHCP06:03
tbastenreka, on the ati dite?06:03
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tbastensire06:03
tbastensite*06:03
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dabaRhaha06:03
natuhow can i execute multiple server clients in one shell???06:03
rekadjp: worth a shot... worked for sluggishness in another FF user today06:04
natui have the object files06:04
dabaRok, later guys, Im hungry. Spiritual_Vagabo set up your computer for dhcp, power cycle the modem and router, bring down the interface, then bring it up, and it should work.06:04
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rekatbasten: this site: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:04
djpreka: sometimes firefox will completely shut down itself!06:04
natuhow can i execute multiple server clients in one shell???06:04
rekatbasten: if you want to use the ati drivers, search the ubforums, possibly even the wiki might have a page06:04
natucan anyone help me....06:04
Spiritual_VagabodabaR, how do i bring down the interface?06:04
rndrdbrianso how should I be mounting the memory card?06:04
hybrid_gothnatu: screen06:04
hybrid_goth?06:04
rekadjp: what version, ooi?06:04
dabaRsudo ifdown eth0 for example06:05
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dabaRsudo ifup eth0 bringsw it back up.06:05
tbastenreka, done all of that06:05
hybrid_goth!screen06:05
ubotuhybrid_goth: I give up, what is it?06:05
hybrid_gothwhat!06:05
hybrid_gothsome bot!06:05
tbastenreka,  can i msg you the error i am getting?06:05
dabaRpowere cycling is done first turn off both router and modem, then turn on modem, wait for solid lights, and then tyurn on the router, then ifdown, ifdown.06:05
andrewfHi, I just installed libflash-mozplugin and I can't get firefox working with it06:05
rekatbasten: pastebin would be better06:05
xozdjp: how large is your RAM?06:05
dabaRhybrid_goth: tell him what it is.06:05
wing`dabaR, can you help me setting up a network?06:06
dabaRwing`: likely:)06:06
dabaRdepends.06:06
tbasteni dont know how to do that so is it ok to msg it?06:06
hybrid_gothdabaR: how06:06
dabaRI told you to /query me a while ago06:06
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djpcompletely frozen again reka...06:06
djpxoz: 512mb06:06
dabaRhybrid_goth: you query me too.06:06
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rekadjp: what version of FF?06:06
novaHi, how do I change icon themes in ubuntu?06:07
djpreka: 1.0.206:07
tbastenReading package lists... Done06:07
tbastenBuilding dependency tree... Done06:07
tbastenThe following NEW packages will be installed:06:07
tbasten  xorg-driver-fglrx06:07
tbasten0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.06:07
tbastenNeed to get 0B/3185kB of archives.06:07
tbastenAfter unpacking 10.2MB of additional disk space will be used.06:07
tbastenPreconfiguring packages ...06:07
kolcvkguys , how to install downloaded .deb binary ?06:07
tbasten(Reading database ... 97904 files and directories currently installed.)06:07
tbastenUnpacking xorg-driver-fglrx (from .../xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb) ...06:07
don-ois there a wiki page that gives more detail about the X problem in breezy?06:07
xozdjp: i would use mozilla over firefox.06:07
tbastendpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by nvidia-glx'06:07
tbastendpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb (--unpack):06:07
tbasten subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 206:07
tbastenErrors were encountered while processing:06:07
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tbasten /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb06:07
natuhybrid_goth: if i want to use a script to startup the clients???06:07
rekatbasten: STOP06:07
tbastenE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)06:07
kolcvkguys , how to install downloaded .deb binary ?06:08
don-okolcvk: dkpg  -i dowloaded.deb06:08
xozidiot06:08
kolcvkthanks06:08
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rekatbasten: do NOT paste in the channel06:08
Antinomyanyone understand the Debootstrap Error?06:08
rekasorry, should have forewarned him06:08
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natuhybrid_goth: if i want to use a script to startup the clients???] 06:08
rekatbasten: paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:08
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keikoza little question... about what i can see in the dmesg;  where are in this listing starting the scripts of /etc/rcS.d ?06:08
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keikozi can't determine it ...06:09
bob2keikoz: dmesg has nothing to do with those scripts06:09
bob2except in that the the kernel runs init to begi nwith06:09
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tbastenreka, ok, pasted06:10
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keikozdmesg yes but he can't give information because of one of this scripts no ?06:10
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stjepanheya06:10
stjepanwhere is ifcfg-eth0 script in ubuntu?06:10
rekatbasten: hmmm ... why is it complaining about nvidia-glx, when you have an ati card.06:11
vaderbob2: when you got me to do the modprobe apm last night.... it will even tell me when the battery is fully charged now, thanx dude06:11
Spiritual_Vagabothx dabaR06:11
maddlerhello!06:11
rekatbasten: you didn't follow the nvidia instructions did you? *wince*06:11
stjepanso?06:11
Spiritual_Vagaboi wil try that and get back if needed06:11
maddleris anyone using firefox > 1.0.2 on amd64?06:11
stjepando you know where is it?06:11
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stjepanor can you find it, please?06:11
hybrid_goth!screen06:11
ubotuit has been said that screen is a terminal multiplexer http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/1493506:11
stjepannever midn06:11
stjepanI will try myself06:11
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hybrid_goth!good bot06:11
ubotuthanks hybrid_goth :)06:11
tbastenreka, i replace my old nvidia card with ati card so my system is currently setup for nvidia06:12
rekatbasten: i see.06:12
rekatbasten: remove the nvidia stuff06:12
tbasteneder06:12
tbasteneer*06:12
rekauh, yeah....06:12
tbastenjust nvidia-glx06:12
maddlerand... is breezy sable enough?06:12
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rekatbasten: try that one first06:13
tbastendone06:13
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stjepanoh06:13
stjepanI can't find it06:13
rekanow try install the xorg one06:13
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stjepancan you help me?06:13
rekatbasten: /msg me if an error comes up06:13
stjepanI am finding file ifcfg-eth006:13
tbasten trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin/fgl_glxgears', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-006:13
tbastendpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)06:13
tbastenErrors were encountered while processing:06:13
tbasten /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb06:13
tbastenE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)06:13
stjepanso?06:14
reka*sigh*06:14
rekatbasten: use /msg with one line06:14
rekatbasten: to open the window, then paste the rest06:14
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tbastenreka, is that what u mean?06:15
rekadjp: well, from what i've seen, a lot of people have problems with FF.  check the ubforums and the bugzilla06:15
rekatbasten: yes.06:15
samantacruchbob2,  root@linux:~ # update-rc.d proftpd defaults06:16
samantacruch System startup links for /etc/init.d/proftpd already exist.06:16
stjepando you know how to set MTU for my eth0?06:16
samantacruchbut it dont start at boot06:16
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bob2samantacruch: ls -ld /etc/rc2.d/S*proft*06:16
samantacruch ls -ld /etc/rc2.d/S*proft*06:16
samantacruchlrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           17 2005-07-22 18:13 /etc/rc2.d/S20proftpd -> ../init.d/proftpd06:16
samantacruchroot@linux:~ #06:16
bob2well, it's being started06:17
stjepanso?06:17
bob2maybe you screwed up the config or something06:17
samantacruchbut if i restart06:17
samantacruchit dont start06:17
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bob2I cannot guess what you did, sorry06:17
samantacruchi did nothing06:17
samantacruch:(06:17
djpreka: version of ff is 1.0.206:17
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rekadjp: well, from what i've seen, a lot of people have problems with FF.  check the ubforums and the bugzilla06:17
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bahblahblahbahhi06:18
smiteso any idea how i can install the experience-engine??06:18
smiteparser.c:2: warning: `yysccsid' defined but not used06:18
smitemake[1] : *** [parser.lo]  Error 106:18
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Seveassmite, that is a warning, not an error06:19
Seveasthe error must be earlier, paste the complete output on a pastebin06:19
bahblahblahbahhow can i mount an ntfs partition?06:19
jbluI added files from a CD burned on OS X.  The permissions are screwed up, and the files all have a lock.  It says the date it was created was 31 December, 1969! Somebody?06:19
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dabaR!mountwindows06:20
ubotusomebody said mountwindows was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions06:20
smitemake[1] : Leaving directory `/home/andrew/experience-0.9.6/src'06:20
smitemake: *** [all-recursive]  Error 106:20
Seveasbahblahblahbah: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically06:20
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smitethats all06:20
dabaRjblu: go back in time.06:20
smitemake error 1.. again :-/06:20
bahblahblahbahthx all06:21
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Amaranthbahblahblahbah: it'll be read only06:21
Seveassmite, do you have flex and bison installed?06:21
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jbluwell, can I do a touch in terminal, to correct the date with what command?06:21
nova_Hi, how do I change icon themes in ubuntu using gnome? When I drag the icon sets I've downloaded into the icon tab of the theme dialog it says invalid format06:21
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Seveasjblu, touch * will update timestamps of all files06:22
Seveassee the manpage for touch for full detail :)06:22
dabaRnova, faqs at art.gnome.org06:22
jblufor all folders in a folder?06:22
smiteSeveas: no06:22
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Seveasnova_, then the icon theme is not correct06:22
genghisanywhere I can get the version of mozilla-firefox I had yesterday before apt broke it utterly?06:22
slask3nwhere are the packages stored when selecting "copy remaining packages to disk" in expert install? i have lost my sources.list and now i have to download every package even if i know it exist on the disk..06:22
Seveassmite, yy* functions are for bison and flex, install these06:22
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Seveasslask3n, /var/cache/apt/archives/06:23
djpok i have noticed that if i click on anything like a link to an m3u playlist (normally opens totem), pdf file (normally open xpdf), in firefox, nothing happens...06:23
Seveasslask3n: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3806:23
genghisdjp:  you're lucky.  mine won't launch at all06:23
djpi think the laterst update of firefox has caused problems06:23
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djpgenghis: have u recently updated ff?06:23
Seveasdjp, the security update broke a lot06:23
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genghisdjp: security update provides a version which segfaults on exec06:24
djpSeveas: ahh, thanks.06:24
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genghisSeveas:  is there an archive of older .debs ?06:24
Seveasgenghis, download the older .deb manually and run dpkg -i --force-downgrade filename.deb06:24
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djpSeveas: is this being "fixed"?06:24
genghisSeveas:  i've been looking for the package but can't find it06:24
Seveasdjp, yes06:24
Seveasgenghis, hang on06:24
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djpcheers Seveas, just grin and bare it then for a while... :(06:25
genghisdpkg I am familiar with, thankfully.  have been using debian for years before this06:25
smiteSeveas: no difference.. installed them and same error06:25
genghisSeveas:  also filed it with bugzilla.06:25
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dabaRwhy switch to ubuntu then, genghis just something new?06:25
Seveashttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.4_i386.deb06:26
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genghisdabaR:  it's generally a more coherent distro imho06:26
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Seveashttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.4_i386.deb06:26
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dabaRwhats coherent mean?06:26
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Seveasah wait, these are the latest06:26
Seveastake the ubuntu5.3 versions06:26
genghisdabaR:  it all works together better06:26
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genghisSeveas:  5.3 isn't there06:27
Daemonicwould I break everything if I changed my apt-sources to those of debians?06:27
dabaRgenghis: ok.06:27
dabaRthanks06:27
Seveasgenghis, hmm, i see06:27
Seveasi'll keep looking06:27
genghisi tried that already :-)06:27
genghisdeleting archive packages, btw, isn't imho the most clever idea.06:28
DespeehDaemonic I dont know, but i downloaded couple programs from Breezy repos , and my 5.04 hoary crashed badly06:28
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DaemonicDespeeh, crashed how? what did you install?06:29
Seveashttp://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3_i386.deb06:29
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Seveashttp://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3_i386.deb06:29
Seveasthe german archive still has it :)06:30
thespiritoftalwhen I type  "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" as written in ubuntuguide it says GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:06:30
thespiritoftalAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.Anyone who knows the reason?06:30
slask3nSeveas: thanks, but ive fixed the sources.list now.. but can i add /var/cache/apt/archives/ as an repository?06:30
jblutouch * worked, thanks:)06:30
Seveasslask3n, no need to, apt will pick up debs in there06:30
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DespeehI did install latest firefox , gaim and vlc06:30
Seveasthespiritoftal, you should type that in a terminal06:30
genghisSeveas:  thanks06:31
jbluI can't find VLC, I have universe enabled06:31
Seveasjblu, try apt-get update06:31
weiersHi, struggling setting up my alsa-sound. I have now followed a number of steps (without any hitches) to compile the alsa-source. It ended with a command dpkg -i ../alsa*.deb. But still no sound. I also edited the /etc/esound/esd.conf as suggested in the ubuntu wiki. Where do I go now to get my sound to work?06:31
Seveas!info vlx06:31
Seveas!info vlc06:31
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ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB06:31
jbluthx06:31
dj28vlc06:31
dj28er06:31
slask3nSeveas: no it doesnt.. ive tested.. i asked you earlier today and you said i should remove the cd-rom rep and then it would check.. i installed quanta now, and i KNOW thats on the cd, and the on the disk now, but synaptic downloaded every package anyway..06:31
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haffeHello. I noticed that I have libcairo installed. Is there someway I can try libcairo out with the glitz backend?06:32
genghisslask3n:  if the downloaded version is newer, it will, yes06:32
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tbasten you formerly had an nvidia card, installed the xorg-fglrx drivers, and you get this error and no direct rendering06:32
tbasteni mean "i"06:33
nova_does it matter whether the themes I download is for metacity or gtk2?06:33
slask3ngenghis: it download EVERY package NO MATTER WHAT.. :s06:33
Daemonicwhat scripting language would I want to write a simple script to communicate with a serial port?06:33
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weierscrimsun ? I wonder if you could perhaps give me a small bit of advice about setting up my alsa-sound. You helped me last time and I've been following your instructions. There must just be something small that I am doing wrong.06:33
genghisslask3n:  if they're not newer, you can force a source by using apt-get -t06:33
DaemonicI need to send a few simple strings of text to the serial port and receive a few in response...06:33
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Daemoniccould I do that with a bash script?06:34
tbastenI formerly had an nvidia card, installed the xorg-fglrx drivers, and you get this error and no direct rendering. Anyone have any clue?06:34
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The_VoxDaehlie: shell scripting...sh if you need portability, bash if you don't care about portability06:34
rndrdbriandoes anyone know how to mount usb memory card reader in ubuntu?06:35
weiersCould anyone help me activate my soundcard?06:35
The_VoxDaemonic: shell scripting...sh if you need portability, bash if you don't care about portability06:35
genghisrndrdbrian:  put a card in it and look what you have afterwards, usually works for me06:35
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rndrdbriangenghis, that fails to work.06:36
genghiswhat sort of memory card?06:36
rndrdbrianxd memory card, lexar multimemory card reader06:37
genghisjeez06:37
slask3ngenghis: i use synaptic as the frontend, and i know it can use the disk as an repository becouse i always been doing it, just this time i fucked up and now it asks for the cd-rom.. Seveas told me to remove the cd-rom from the sources.list and i did, so now it downloads the package from internet since i dont have the cd-rom rep installed.. thats ok, but a bit irritating since every package already is on the harddrive.. but apt doesnt know06:37
The_Voxrndrdbrian: what does your /var/log/messages say when you plug in a card into the reader?06:37
samantacruchbob2,  how can i install proftpd.. if i do that with tarball i have this error, but with atp-get i am not able to find it.. so there is no some ubuntu package?06:37
genghisslask3n:  try moving all the packages you know you have into /var/cache/apt/archive06:37
Seveasslask3n, it is odd that packages in /var/cache/apt/archives aren't picked up06:37
rndrdbrianThe_Vox, it says that it has found the 256mb card at sda06:38
Seveasslask3n, unless the packages online are newer06:38
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The_Voxrndrdbrian: mount sda1 somewhere and there you go06:38
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rndrdbrianmount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist06:39
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The_Voxsamantacruch: you need either universe or multiverse...I'm seeing proftpd packages here06:39
rndrdbrianneither does sda2,3, or 4 or sdb or sdc06:39
elmagozizouHi does Any one has configured nvidia card and get all the perform?06:40
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slask3nSeveas, genghis: i think so too.. but the only thing ive done this time that i didnt before is to accidently press the "configure apt"-somtehing during expert install, and thats after the packages has been copied so thats why it doesnt work..06:40
weiersI get the impression I am being ignored. Am I being paranoid? Or am I just asking the wrong question? Or is there nobody who knows the answer?06:40
dabaRsamantacruch: there is a package.06:40
dabaR!info proftpd06:40
ubotuproftpd: (Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-8 (hoary), Packaged size: 346 kB, Installed size: 816 kB06:40
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dabaRadd universe.06:40
slask3nSeveas, genghis: but there should be a way to fix it shouldnt it?06:40
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The_Voxelmagozizou: depends on what you mean by "all the performance"...my nvidia card works pretty well for gameing...but it *is* slower than on windows for some games.06:41
hafferndrdbrian: Have you verified that the memory card is detected by the kernel?06:41
samantacruchdabaR,  how can i add universe?06:41
dabaR!repositories06:41
ubotusomebody said repositories was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:41
rndrdbrianhaffe, how do I do that?06:41
dabaRsamantacruch: there^06:42
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hafferndrdbrian: Start a terminal and type dmesg | grep exar06:42
samantacruchoh roger06:42
weiersWhat do I do to activate my soundcard?06:42
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rndrdbrianhaffe, it seems to06:42
elmagozizouThe_Vox, yeah..i mean, i install the module and anabled it...an ib install all the nvidia packages that i need...but for example i cant play tuxracer well and my screensavers doesnt see very well neither06:42
haffeweiers: It should have been detected automaticly. Are you sure that it isn't just muted?06:43
dabaRweiers: do you have two?06:43
congelandoalgum brasileiro ae06:43
elmagozizouThe_Vox, the only thing that works fine is 3ddesktop06:43
hafferndrdbrian: Ok. Have you looked under /media where HAL should have made a device for you?06:43
zeasiermaybe lots of people are asking this, maybe not. is anyone having firefox crash when you close a tab?06:43
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The_Voxelmagozizou: did you modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to use the nvidia drivers instead of the nv drivers?06:43
congelandoi using my adsl modem with router.. how i can configure ubuntu to conect with the internet06:43
Seveaszeasier, the latest ubuntu AND official versions break a lot06:44
elmagozizouThe_Vox, I allready check that but im goin to put that in private to you...so you can check it...06:44
Seveaszeasier, if you run 1.0.6 or the latest ubuntu security update, you should downgrade.06:44
zeasierSeveas - yeah it seems to be my latest version too06:44
rndrdbrianhaffe /media/usb0 is empty, as is /media/usb06:44
weiershaffe / dabaR I don't think I have two. I had problems once before when I installed Ubuntu. It is built in on An Intel Centrino motherboard. At that Stage Crimsun sent me a number of commands trhough a bot (Ubouto) to download, compile and install alsa06:44
haffeHmm.06:44
The_Voxzeasier: the FF updates are having trouble, both from ubuntu and from mozilla foundation...you can only suck it up and wait for yet another update06:44
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weiershaffe /dabaR I did that again this time, but still no sound06:44
zeasierSeveas - so how can i downgrade with apt?06:45
The_Voxelmagozizou: just make sure that it says "nvidia" and not "nv" under the Devices section06:45
Amaranththey released firefox 1.0.6 to fix an abi/api break in 1.0.5 but 1.0.6 broke somewhere else06:45
hafferndrdbrian: What device is the memory card detected as?06:45
Amaranthseemingly only on linux06:45
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Seveaszeasier, manually download the debs and run dpkg -i06:45
Seveashttp://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3_i386.deb06:45
rndrdbrianhaffe, how do you mean?06:45
Seveashttp://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3_i386.deb06:45
AmaranthSeveas: nice try06:45
dabaRcongelando: just a sec06:45
zeasierSeveas - cool thanks06:45
phixionanyone want to help a linux newbie setup rtorrent? :/06:45
rndrdbriandmesg says /dev/sda06:45
elmagozizouThe_Vox, what section you want to see?06:45
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Despeehis here someone who can help me with mounting ntfs stuff fromn windows06:46
biscuit_Whenever i try to configure ALSA and test it, it says no constucted pipeline or somthing like that06:46
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ztx_how do I boot the ubuntu livecd without X?06:46
supernixDoes anyone know anything about the evolution email client ?06:46
weiersbiscuit_ that is the problem that I have now.06:46
The_Voxelmagozizou: Section "Device"06:46
biscuit_weirs: Anyone here know whats wrong with it06:46
weiersbiscuit_ the previous time I got it fixed. I am sure I am just leaving somethign out.06:47
biscuit_weiers*06:47
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dabaRcongelando: you there?06:47
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SeveasAmaranth, please leave the breezy X part in it06:47
biscuit_weiers: It says that it's installed in synatpic, but it still won't work06:47
AmaranthSeveas: you want breezy X or firefox? we don't have room for both06:47
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Seveasah crap06:47
dabaR@me06:47
Seveasi see it now :)06:47
dabaR:p06:47
biscuit_Anyone have or remember dialup?06:48
genghisAmaranth:  i'm checking the bugzilla suggestion about removing all extensions before upgrade.  if it works that's more useful info06:48
Chris_Tuckerim on dialup right now06:48
The_Voxelmagozizou: it seems to be fine...should be working allright.06:48
biscuit_r anyone know about Linuxant06:48
weiersbiscuit_ I have the same situation.  Did you do a sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source thing?06:48
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Chris_Tuckerbiscuit_,  your getting to the conexant driver arent you?06:48
biscuit_weiers_ No, it just came like installed with it06:48
rndrdbrianhaffe, I've put the memory card back into the camera, seems there could be a problem with it....06:48
biscuit_Chris_Tucker: Yea06:48
rndrdbrianthanks for the help06:48
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Chris_Tuckerbiscuit_ , two words: have fun.06:49
supernixDoes anyone know anything about the evolution email client ?06:49
biscuit_Chris Tucker: What modem do you have?06:49
Chris_Tuckeri had to use an older 33.6k isa modem06:49
jedediahsupernix, Yeah.06:49
elmagozizouThe_Vox, yeah but it doesnt...I dont know what else to do...06:49
anacroni tried to update my videocard bios, but in the end it says some error, if i boot my computer now, will it work, or do i have to flash my backup-bios now, before i boot?06:49
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biscuit_Oh06:49
Chris_Tuckeri have a new aopen 56px but it only works in windows06:49
biscuit_Linuxant ain't no fun06:49
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The_Voxelmagozizou: neither do I...I've never had problems with my nvidia card06:49
supernixjedediah: is it defunct ?06:49
Chris_Tuckerthe linux driver from linuxant... sucks. you MAY get it to work06:49
biscuit_Im trying to figure out how to manually edit the driver06:49
biscuit_I get it to work06:50
Chris_Tuckerbut unless you pay for it your limited06:50
Chris_Tuckerag06:50
biscuit_But it won't take my key06:50
biscuit_It does06:50
Chris_Tuckerah06:50
elmagozizouThe_Vox, bad luck for me...06:50
biscuit_But still says its free06:50
biscuit_*cough keygen *cough06:50
jedediahsupernix, defunct? I don't think so. . . I use it, and I haven't heard anything about it being discontinued.06:50
biscuit_:-P06:50
jedediahsupernix, I could be wrong though, let me know if you've heard otherwise06:50
The_Voxanacron: if you get an error when flashing a bios, you better make sure you flash it again without errors before rebooting...if you want to be able to use that piece of hardware, that is.06:50
haffeusb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning06:50
haffe  Vendor: Konica    Model: KD-310Z           Rev: 1.0006:50
haffe  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 0006:50
supernixI just could not find a site for it I Looked on Novell but no listing for it06:50
=== weiers will try again later. I know that crimsun knows, but he is probably busy with something else.
hafferndrdbrian: As an example. This is the line for my digital camra06:50
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jedediahsupernix, http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/06:51
Chris_Tuckerim trying to wget stuff to make my own lan repository, how do i know the address to a .deb?06:51
biscuit_I stil don't think what Linuxant is doing is legal.. I mean isn't all linux software under open source06:51
The_Voxbiscuit_: no06:51
Chris_Tuckeri mean how do i know the address to a .deb on the official servers?06:51
ztx_how do I boot the ubuntu livecd without X?06:52
biscuit_Yea06:52
anacronThe_Vox: do you have any expirience flashing videocard's, since i have only flashed bios, and it actually took a while to write it, so im not even sure if it did write something in the videocard bios, or did it stop before the writing scene06:52
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dabaRlater. good luck:)06:52
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The_Voxanacron: none at all, never tried flashing a vidcard.06:52
biscuit_Chris_tucker: Have you ever had like a conexant modem06:52
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elmagozizouHow do I Zip a folder?06:53
supernixjedediah: are you using Gnome or KDE ?06:53
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hanaGonezip06:53
hanaGonefile-roller06:54
Chris_Tuckerbiscuit_ only working in windows06:54
Chris_Tuckernever got the linuxant to work06:54
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supernixty also for the link jedediah I don't know why I did not see that before06:54
biscuit_Chris_Tucker: What modem do you have06:54
biscuit_It works fine for me06:54
The_Voxmmm...dpkg and dselect updates?06:55
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Chris_TuckerAopen FM56px06:56
tbastenhow do i enable Direct rendering for an ATI card?06:56
biscuit_Which package did you try to install?06:56
biscuit_HSF, HCF?06:56
yonilis there a way to make the synaptic package updates tool ignore some packages? ( there are some packages which i dont want to update)06:56
epwhats the CLI method to see if a package is already installed, for example w32codecs06:56
Amaranthyonil: man apt_preferences06:57
Chris_Tuckerits soft controlled06:57
jedediahsupernix, I have a few different linux desktops. RIght now I'm in Gnome, but I run KDE and enlightenment too when I feel in the mood.06:57
thespiritoftalI type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in the terminal and get the error message Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.Anyone can tell me why?06:57
biscuit_So06:57
biscuit_HSF?06:57
Chris_Tuckeryes06:57
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biscuit_What did it do when you tried to install it?06:57
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Chris_Tuckernothing06:57
Chris_Tuckeros wouldnt use it06:57
biscuit_Did you get the debian pack06:57
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thespiritoftalnoone knows? :/06:58
CarlFKChris_Tucker - do you have the 2 URL's about making repositories?06:58
Chris_Tuckeri never had debain at the time06:58
biscuit_And the right one for the right os for the right kernel?06:58
Chris_TuckerCarlFK yes06:58
biscuit_What do you have now06:58
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CarlFKChris_Tucker - good.   me too - just foudn them06:58
CarlFK;)06:58
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Chris_Tuckerbut CarlFK i dont know how to find out the url im supposed to use with wget06:58
BockBilbois there any known problem with the last firefox security upgrade in hoary?06:58
DekaPinkHello, my lovelies~06:58
BockBilboseens that doesnt download the stuff06:58
CarlFKChris_Tucker - I am working on that ;)06:59
Chris_Tuckerbiscuit_ debain based ubuntu :) but i use a smoothwall06:59
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BockBilboi have to do it manually06:59
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CarlFKChris_Tucker - are you on the ubuntu mail list?07:00
CarlFKChris_Tucker - ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com07:00
biscuit_Chris_Tucker Why don't you try do get it now07:00
Chris_TuckerCarlFK not yet but i will be in a sec07:00
Chris_Tuckerbiscuit_ because i use a smoothwall07:00
epIf I do apt-cache search w32codecs, nothing is listed.  However, I may of installed this by adding an extra repository (backport) and then later removing it.  How can I determine if its installed?07:00
Chris_Tuckeri rout my dialup07:00
biscuit_Smoothwall?07:00
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Chris_Tuckeryes07:00
Chris_Tuckerits a standalone computer07:00
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biscuit_What do you mean?07:00
biscuit_Like do you connect directly with a modem07:00
biscuit_Or what07:00
Chris_Tuckerthat runs a distro of linux called smoothwall, its a router/firewall that can rout even dialup07:00
Chris_Tuckersmoothwall.org07:00
CarlFKChris_Tucker - either sign up now or give me your email so I can cc you the post07:00
Chris_Tuckerno gui07:00
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don-oep: dpkg -l will tell you what is installed07:00
Chris_Tuckerits just meant to sit there, web interface07:00
tbastenum, i am trying to enable direct rendering. I have commanted load "GLcore and load "dri" but its still not turning on07:00
epcool, i can pipe that to grep, thanks!07:01
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biscuit_Umm kinda a dumb question but whats a nvram.bin file?07:01
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ray_biscuit_, aint too stupid cuz i have no idea07:02
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biscuit_I see.. so does anyone know what it is?07:02
jblucan someone recommend a audio file converter, for AU or .snd to .wav?07:02
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ray_biscuit_, did you try google07:02
arpanhi, i just installed ubuntu07:02
moogmanHey, I'm trying to install the cm (computer modern) font package. Does anyone know where I can find it?07:02
lukus001can somone tell me how i print by command... ive set up a printer but most of my aps dont see nore can they print via defult post script07:02
ray_woo hooo arpan!07:03
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muellihi folks. I'm just trying to get Stepmania working on my Ubuntu box, but as I start the game I get: "liblua.so not found..." But i definitly have lua installed :-(07:03
biscuit_I will.. but a restricted dialup connection is kinda slow :-P07:03
jedediahsupernix, What desktop ar eyou running?07:03
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Sonderbladeis there an ubuntu package for gtk 2.7?07:03
Burgundaviarg07:03
arpani have a dsl router and everytime I boot into ubuntu, to connect to the net, i need to do: ifdown then ifup and then i am connected07:03
lukus001can somone tell me how i print by command on programs such as cpdf07:03
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lukus001xpdf*07:04
arpanwat do i do so that I dont need to do this everytime07:04
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Cooner750hello07:04
tbastenis there a channel where i can discuss my video (ATI) card issues?07:04
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biscuit_I have an ATI card, whats up with it?07:04
ray_tbasten, whats the problem07:04
drcodehi all07:04
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drcodeI didnt secess with realplayer in firefox07:04
tbasteni am trying to enable direct rendering07:04
drcodeits work with totem07:05
supernixjedediah: I am running KDE07:05
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supernixthat actually is my primary desktop I do have Gnome installed though07:05
drcodebut then the wmv movies of media player dosnt work07:05
drcodemplayer plugin support real?07:05
ray_tbasten, do you have the fglrx driver07:05
tbastenyeah, installed it about 1 hours ago :)07:05
ray_tbasten, did u modify x settings07:06
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tbastenEer, i have been editing my xorg.conf07:06
The_Voxdrcode: yes, mplayer supports real format by using some codecs07:06
Cooner750is it ok to format the partition with my broken Ubuntu install on; and have GRUB still work so I can boot windows?07:06
tbastenu wanna see if. its in paste.ubuntu.org07:06
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tbastenhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/71707:06
biscuit_Ummm07:07
ray_ok07:07
muellianyone got an idea, why I get "liblua.so not found" when I start stepmania?07:07
biscuit_Cooner750.. i had a bad expierence with that07:07
drcodewhat codec?07:07
Cooner750oops. Well I just formatted the partition07:07
biscuit_I formated that partition07:07
drcodeI Install realplayer mplayer-plugin , mozpluger or somthig ?07:07
biscuit_And grub kept coming up with an error 1507:07
biscuit_Just popin the ubuntu isk07:07
biscuit_You should be fine07:07
biscuit_If you install that again07:07
biscuit_Or07:07
Cooner750Is there anyway to get GRUB off of the MBR? I'm installing another distro just temporary to see if it's a computer problem that's giving me the error07:07
biscuit_Pop in that disk07:07
biscuit_And ski[p to the grub bootloader section07:08
Cooner750k. I'll have to make a install cd07:08
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ray_tbasten, yous looks alot diferent than mine07:08
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The_Voxdrcode: mplayer-plugin if you want your browser to do inline videos...and you need to install the mplayer codecs too....go to mplayerhq.hu and download the tarball, untar it and stick the results in /usr/lib/win3207:09
biscuit_Does anyone know what an nvram.bin file is07:09
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biscuit_Im tryign to install somthing but it says it can't read to that file07:09
drcodethanx man07:09
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lukus001can somone please tell me how i can use the print by command that you get on most applications07:10
muelliIs there anybody with experiences installing stepmania on a ubuntu box?07:11
djpSeveas: can you just confirm that i have this right? if i try and open a file, say an .ogg file in the current firefox release, nothing happens due to the nature of the current problems. my only solution would be to right click and download relevant file type for now? reason i ask, is that chasing up the forums doesn't mention my problem, although i gather it is related...07:11
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Seveasdjp, confirmed07:12
drummerAre there any folks knowledgeable on Evolution Email on line?07:12
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drcodethe_vox: this essential codecs package07:12
drcodebcz it come with dlls ?07:13
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Cooner750Would the partition being in EXT2 cause any issues with UBuntu07:13
Cooner750?07:13
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djpSeveas: thanks07:13
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biscuit_Anyonee have linuxant07:14
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wing`bob2, are you there?07:16
muelliHmm.. Am I the only one having problem with Stepmania or liblua?07:16
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ray_what is Stepmania?07:17
wing`anyone there can help me with dhcp3-server?07:17
The_Voxdrcode: I use the "all" codecs package...I *think* the realplayer codecs are part of the essential package, but am not sure07:17
muelliRay: Stepmania is a "Dancing Simulation" aka DDR07:17
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The_Voxwing`: what's the problem?07:17
ray_ok07:17
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muelliAnd it wants liblua. Although I installed lua, it still complains :-(07:18
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wing`The_Vox, my ubuntu<>xp lan is working with dhcp3, but windows cant get the DNS07:19
wing`my modem is a router07:19
ray_muelli, in terminal when you type loacte liblua does it showup?07:19
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wing`so i already tried 192.168.254.254 (modem ip) as DNS07:19
turkuazTopic seems to have changed, is X still boken in breezy?07:19
wing`and already tried lots of other dns address07:19
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neighborleepanel applet notifier wants me to dist-upgrade instead of normal route, that plus it says I need like 240MB of updates...is this dist-upgrade ( breezy here ) and large amoung of updates likely to break my breezy system meaning should I just reinstall ? ;))07:19
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muelliray_: yeah. I got some liblualib.so files, cos I install nearly all versions ever existed :D07:19
thespiritoftalcan someone pls help me?I type the commands I see in ubuntuguide and everytime there is a problem07:19
Seveasmuelli, install liblua40 or liblua5007:20
meccahey guys -- i just installed ubuntu for the first time and the only resolution i have available is 640x480... i cant find an XF86Config in /etc/X1107:20
muelliSeveas, already done07:20
apokryphosthespiritoftal: not a good idea to use it.07:20
neighborleethespiritoftal, we need more iknfo07:20
meccadoes ubuntu use x.org?07:20
neighborleeinfo07:20
apokryphos!resolution07:20
ubotufrom memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:20
neighborleemecca, yes07:20
thespiritoftalfor example when I type sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 it says E: Some packages could not be authenticated07:20
meccaah then im screwwed :P07:20
meccaok ill read that thanks07:20
muelliI also linked one of the liblualib.so's to stepmaina dir... But didn't help07:20
Seveasmuelli, then sudo ln -s /usr/lib/liblua50.so /usr/lib/liblua.so07:20
apokryphosthespiritoftal: you need backports respository for that07:20
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thespiritoftalwhat do I have to do to get backports respository?07:21
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apokryphosthespiritoftal: you also need gpg keyes to not get that error07:21
apokryphos!kudos07:21
ubotuhmm... kudos is at Multi-page: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf.html Single-page (large): http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ by Chua Wen Kiat07:21
muelliSeveas, done that too, but doesn't help07:21
thespiritoftalI already changed the text file07:21
apokryphosthespiritoftal: check that guide there. It'll walk you through it07:21
turkuazthespiritoftal, dont forget to apt-get update then apt-get upgrade07:21
Seveasthespiritoftal: To find out the location of backports, go to backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php07:21
thespiritoftalcan you help me how?07:21
muelli./stepmania: error while loading shared libraries: liblua.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:21
Seveasmuelli, sudo ldconfi07:21
Seveasmuelli, sudo ldconfig07:21
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apokryphosthespiritoftal: yes, add the repositories as suggested in that guide, and then execute the gpg commands to get the keys set up etc.07:21
aasicswhat does Ubuntu use for the automatic detection of USB jumpdrives, etc07:22
muellisevw07:22
muelliargs07:22
tbastenAnyknow know how to enable direct rendering (ATI card)07:22
thespiritoftalwhat do you mean with gpg commands?07:22
phixionconfigure: error: Could not find openssl's crypto library - anyone know where I can get the files I need to stop this happening?07:22
muelliSeveas, still no luck :-(07:22
apokryphosthespiritoftal: you'll see in the guide07:22
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Seveasaasics, hotplug + pmount07:22
Cooner750i'm downloading a distro called "Berry Linux" to see if it causes errors to. If it does; it's a computer problem07:22
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aasicsSeveas: thank you07:23
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wing`The_Vox, can you help me?07:23
Seveasmuelli, then I give up, I never used lua or that program myself...07:23
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theplateauis there a ls option to view permissions in octal?07:23
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muelliI don't even know, what lua is about :D But I still wonder why it just does not want to check, that this damn file is there! Thanks anyway :-)07:24
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hyphenatedtheplateau: whafor? can you use stat instead?07:25
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phixionconfigure: error: Could not find openssl's crypto library - i already installed openssl, what do i need to do to fix this? im trying to install rtorrent07:26
arpanhi, i installed enlightenment on ubuntu using synaptic, but when I logged out, it dint appear in the sessions list, and hence I am unable to log into it. what do i do?07:26
thespiritoftalnow I am in the site that you told me Seveas there are some urls of ubuntu backports... what do i have to do with them?07:27
Seveasarpan, you need to create a .desktop file for it07:27
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Seveasthespiritoftal, add them to /etc/apt/aources.list07:27
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moois linux POSIX compliant?07:27
arpanhoow and where do i create it Seveas ?07:27
Seveasmoo, yes07:27
hyphenatedphixion: libssl-dev ?07:27
Seveasarpan, it should be in /usr/share/xsessionstake gnome.desktop as example and editi it to start enlightenment07:28
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Seveasbut leave the gnome.desktop there!07:28
arpanthx07:28
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phixionill try hyphenated, thankyou07:29
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DekaPinkHow do I remove something I installed from source? :307:29
roastporkSorry if you'd heard this one before but are the mirrors having some issues, specifically with universe?07:29
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arpanSeveas, isnt there a simpler way of doing it07:30
arpan?07:30
SeveasDekaPink, you should install from source with checkinstall, otherwise you can't uninstall....07:30
^DodGeR^howdy every107:30
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eprealplayer on windows used to be kind of invasive, how is it on linux?07:30
DekaPinkSeveas: Okay... I'll keep that in mind from not on... :D07:30
drummerWhere can I find the current list of sites etc for sources.list?07:30
phixionhyphenated, sorted, thanks!07:30
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Seveasarpan, find someone who already did this (google for enlightenment.desktop might help) and use that :)(07:30
Seveasdrummer: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3807:31
turkuazcan totem play wmv's?07:31
anacrondoes anyone have an hercules 9800 xt graphics card?, if someone does could you send me your bios file, or maybe somebody could show me where to get one?07:31
arpank07:31
wing`can anyone help me fixing up my dns07:31
Seveasturkuaz, if you install totem-xine and the codecs from mplayerhq.hu: yes07:31
wing`please07:32
don-o[,gl 207:32
drummerSeveas:  Thanks07:32
apokryphosSeveas: why not backports in there as well?07:32
Seveasapokryphos, backports on by default is still icky07:32
thespiritoftalI added them and now it says E: Malformed line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist) how should i exactly add them? I typed it under Backports adding a "deb" in front of the url07:32
Seveasthespiritoftal, paste your sources.list on the pastebin please07:32
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turkuazSeveas, i guess thats a manual install and not from a repository?07:33
SeveasTeal`C, you shouldn't watch so much SG1 :)07:33
thespiritoftalhow to paste on the pastebin?07:33
apokryphosthespiritoftal: you didn't follow the exact instructions; you'd have to add more07:33
Seveasthespiritoftal, go to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:33
epmplayer seems to play everything I throw at it, xine is also ok.  Its the only two I use.   I'd like to  uninstall everything else but I'm not sure this is easily doable.07:33
thespiritoftalok07:33
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Seveasep, the only other installed by default is rhythmbox07:34
Seveasturkuaz, totem-xine can be installed from the repositories07:34
thespiritoftalI pasted it07:34
thespiritoftalcan you have a look?07:34
apokryphosthespiritoftal: link?07:34
dverzolla I'm burning a CD with Ubuntu-Hoary, but I need to change de default xorg.conf file that come with installation. Anyone knows how I can do this?07:34
Seveasthe codes can be installed from the backports repositories, but manually installing from the mplayer site is prefered07:34
epSeveas, I don't understand what your saying.  I don't have rhythmbox (that I know of)  Do I want it?07:35
Seveasthespiritoftal, looking...07:35
thespiritoftalhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/71907:35
Dr_Willisdverzolla,  You mean you are remastering a live cd?07:35
thespiritoftalokie07:35
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dverzollaDr_Willis, No, a install CD...07:35
Seveasep, you said you wanted to remove every media player you don't want, I mentioned one that i though was installed by default so you know whatr to remove :)07:35
apokryphosthespiritoftal: delete lines 37-39, and add...07:35
apokryphosdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted07:35
apokryphosdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted07:35
ray_dverzolla, edit xconf07:36
epah ok07:36
Dr_Willisdverzolla,   there is the x configuration script/tools - or ya can manually edit the x.org file (back it up first)07:36
dverzollaDr_Willis, I know that xorg.conf are auto generated. But I need put 2 linux in xorg.conf07:36
Dr_Willis2 linux?07:36
Seveasthespiritoftal, the first 3 lines under backports are wrong, remove those and leave only the last 207:36
dverzollaDr_Willis, 2 Lines07:36
ray_ok what cd burning app should i get?07:36
Dr_Willisits a text file :P fire up your text editor.07:36
Seveasthespiritoftal, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/72007:36
Dr_Williswhat does this have to do with burning a cd at all however? :P07:36
Seveasray_, gnomebaker07:37
Dr_Willisray_,  i like k3b for general ussage. but depends on what you are making.07:37
dverzollaDr_Willis, You know what are the script/tools?07:37
dverzollawhere!07:37
epKb3 is awsome IMO, puts NERO to shame, if you are familar with NERO07:37
ray_yeah i like k3b a little better because you can burn vcd07:37
ray_but i wanted something gnome07:37
thespiritoftalso is it ok this way?07:38
Teal`CSeveas, Jaffa, KREE!!!07:38
Teal`C:P07:38
ray_ive never had good luck with gnomebaker07:38
ray_its slower07:38
dverzollaDr_Willis, I mounted (mount -t loop initrd) and find in the directory for some script. But I don't find anything.07:38
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apokryphosthespiritoftal: if you follow the instructions, then yes. Just sudo apt-get update now07:39
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wing`ANyone there can help me with DNS ?07:39
Dr_Willisdverzolla,  Hmm the initrd dosent have anything to do with X really07:39
Dr_Willisthe x.org config is in /etc/somthing.07:40
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Dr_Willisunless i have REALLY missed somthing  here. :P07:40
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dverzollaDr_Willis, I get the packets that are in pools directory. xorg-common, xorg-utils, etc ...07:40
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dverzollaDr_Willis, dpkg-deb -x in all, but I find anything too07:41
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azambujahello07:41
dverzollaDr_Willis, the X system are configured by some script?07:41
azambujaim new to ubuntu07:41
Dr_Williswhat 2 lines are you trying so hard to add to the X config?07:41
ray_hello07:41
azambujaand im loving it btw07:41
Seveaswing`, what's the problem?07:41
Dr_Willisdverzolla,  linux is all about scriots and text file configs :P07:41
Dr_Willisscripts.07:41
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Seveasazambuja, welcome aboard!07:41
azambujais there a good bootsplash and framebuffer tutorial or how-to?07:41
hacked`guys, whats wlanng  ?07:41
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dverzollaDr_Willis, But where I can find this one ? :P07:41
thomas___hoary. asrock k7vt6. lsmod sais snd_via82xx is loaded. alsamixer said everything's on. installed codecs from http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs. still no sound. wtf?07:41
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Dr_Willisdverzolla,  its in /etc/X11/x.org or similer.07:42
hacked`guys, where can i download the wlanng driver ?07:42
Seveasazambuja, yes: don't use it, the devs will implement it for breezy/breezy+107:42
dverzollaDr_Willis, junto 2 lines I need put in the file!07:42
wing`Seveas, my network is configured to work using dhcp3, everything is fine only dns in the client isnt working07:42
apokryphosazambuja: there is on the wiki somewhere07:42
dushtabuddhihello, any new firefox builds available ?07:42
qt2dverzolla,  /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:42
dverzollaDr_Willis, just 2 lines07:42
wing`i cant ping www.google.com for example, just the googles IP07:42
ray_dushtabuddhi, in backports07:42
Dr_Willisdverzolla,  then find the file and fire up an editor and have a blast. :P07:42
Seveaswing`, cat /etc/resolv.conf are the addresses it gives correct?07:42
azambujaSeveas: next version?07:42
Seveasazambuja, yes07:42
dverzollaqt2, I know! I'm doing my own Ubuntu!07:42
ray_wing`, dns problem07:42
azambujaSeveas: grub image then i can change?07:42
Dr_Willisdverzolla,  what/where did you discovre these 2 magical lines that are needed. :P07:42
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Seveasazambuja, that's easy07:42
wing`Seveas, in the server?07:43
^DodGeR^set manual dns servers manually wing` ? in /etc/resolv.con07:43
wing`because the client is a windowxp machine07:43
azambujaSeveas: when is it coming out? the next version?07:43
qt2dverzolla, ...if you know, then why did you ask?07:43
Seveasazambuja, there is a tutorial on the forums (ubuntuforums.org)07:43
Seveasazambuja, october (every april and october there's a new version)07:43
azambujaSeveas: ok, im gonna search it07:43
dverzollaqt2, sorry07:43
Seveaswing`, no, on the pc that gives errors07:43
dverzollaqt2,07:43
dverzollaDr_Willis,07:43
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dverzollaI'm doing my own Ubuntu Linux07:43
nldkhello07:43
wing`Seveas,  the pc that gives errors is windowsxp07:43
azambujaSeveas: but i dont have to reinstall the system then, have I? what i like about ubuntu is that i can update without having to reinstall07:44
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dverzollaAnd I need change this file for a install CD07:44
azambujaSeveas: i used gentoo ;-)07:44
ed1tdverzolla, wat u mean u doing ur own ubuntu box?07:44
Seveaswing`, ah :)07:44
thomas___sound not workingm HELP! hoary. asrock k7vt6. lsmod sais snd_via82xx is loaded. alsamixer sais everything's on. installed codecs from http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs. still no sound..07:44
nldkproblem with converting Danish characters between Windows and Gnome07:44
nldkCan anyone help?07:44
dverzollaed1t, I'm changing some languages packets, some configurations07:44
Dr_Willisthe install cd runs the dpkg- config scripts as the packages are installed.07:44
Seveaswing`, then open the network config thing in XP and look for fns server addresses07:44
ed1tk07:44
Seveasand if they are wrong, set them to the correct ones07:44
xozdverzolla: then you should be familiar with the data in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ which contains scripts for configuration07:44
wing`Seveas, its all set to auto (dhcp)07:44
Razor-Xdverzolla: my box would pain itself to call it Ubuntu still ;)07:44
Seveaswing`, so the dhcp server is faulty07:45
dverzollaxoz, Yes!07:45
Razor-Xbut, it's heavily tailored to _my_ tastes, I have no intention of doing anything with my modifications other than some smooth computing07:45
Seveaseither teach the dhcp server to use the correct values or hard-code them in the clients :)07:45
azambujaSeveas: i wont have to reinstall the system right? apt will take care of everything?07:45
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dverzollaRazor-X, I need translate some packets, some thinks for my company07:45
Seveasazambuja, reinstalls are only neccessary when you f* up your system :)07:46
dverzollaxoz, I will try07:46
nldkproblem with converting Danish characters between Windows and Gnome07:46
nldkCan anyone help?07:46
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Seveasnldk, describe the problem, otherwise no one can...07:46
Razor-Xdverzolla: good luck ;)07:46
azambujaSeveas: ok. so i will wait for the framebuffer and bootsplash :-)07:46
muelliAlright. I head on with stepmania problems :-) Now i need the libavformat.so does anyone know where to get this file?07:46
nldkOK - here goes07:46
wing`Seveas, can you help me fixing it? i already tried changing the DNS in the /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf to 192.168.254.254 (my modems router IP) and too lots of valids DNS from my isp too, but it doesnt works07:46
nldkI have some files with names that use danish characters in Windows07:46
dverzollaRazor-X, thanks ;)07:46
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dverzollaAll, excuse for my english07:47
PIANISTgood day!07:47
Razor-Xdverzolla: if you're thinking about a custom term, try compiling urxvt07:47
Seveaswing`, did you restart the dhcp server after changing the config file?07:47
^DodGeR^wing`,  u ened to add a static dns server in windows07:47
nldkWhen I zip them with Winzip and copy and extract them in Ubuntu, they don't display correctly07:47
Razor-Xit's in unicode, so it should help you with any language problems07:47
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thomas___"cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp" doesn't bring any sound whatsoever either, grr07:47
wing`Seveas, yes07:47
thomas___sound not workingm HELP! hoary. asrock k7vt6. lsmod sais snd_via82xx is loaded. alsamixer sais everything's on. installed codecs from http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs. still no sound..07:47
wing`^DodGeR^, ill try that07:47
nldkI guess it's because Windows uses iso-8859-1 and Ubuntu UTF807:47
^DodGeR^in windows under the netwok config set the dns sevrer07:47
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Seveasthomas___, which program?07:47
Seveasthomas___, do you hear system sounds?07:48
thomas___mp3blaster. doesn't matter, no system sounds, no cat to /dev/dsp..07:48
thomas___nothing07:48
dverzollaRazor-X, I will use the default from gnome07:48
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Razor-Xthomas___: why did you cat that to /dev/dsp?07:48
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Razor-Xdverzolla: heh, ok ;)07:48
Seveasnldk, that's windows-brain-deadness07:48
Razor-XI like my own custom Eterm, meself07:48
PIANISTa question. Am I able to connect through the Internet via ssh to a machine behind an gateway? Cause the IP adress I see is the IP of the Gateway. And if I know the IP of the Client behind the Gateway (actually i am knowing it) can I connect?07:48
thomas___Razor-X: read that on a forum to check out if anything gets there07:48
Seveasnldk, windows does not use unicode, ubuntu does07:48
ray_I just got mywindows shared printer to work ..wooooo hoooooo07:48
dverzollaxoz, The var directory are in initrd.gz ?07:49
nldkSeveas: I know :-)07:49
Razor-XPIANIST: try it, no harm done07:49
nldkSeveas: Do you have any suggestions?07:49
Seveasnldk, iconv might help, I just don't know how to apply it to zipfiles...07:49
PIANISTRazor-X: I want to know if it is possible07:49
Triffid_HunterPIANIST: yes.07:49
Seveasthomas___, what does lsof /dev/dsp say?07:49
thomas___come on, noone havy any idea?07:49
AlexBOHello!I've a question about a OpenSource program about DataBase: mosaico. I know that this isn't the right channel. Can you redirect me to a right one? (well...if there are anybody that can help me, I won't refuse of course! ;-) )07:49
nldkChanging my default locale to iso-8859-1 helped, but I guess that will cause some other problems07:49
Seveasthomas___, be patient...07:49
thomas___Seveas:07:49
thomas___COMMAND  PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME07:49
thomas___esd     2371 thomas    5w   CHR   14,3      6499 /dev/dsp07:49
Razor-Xthomas___: you coulda just echo'ed something else, it's not nice to echo vmlinuz, and maybe you need to be root to do it07:49
Triffid_HunterPIANIST: does the gateway have ssh? if not, you'll have to forward a port through the gateway first07:49
apokryphosTriffid_Hunter: hehe, your name refer to "The Day of the Triffids"? Great book.07:49
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PIANISTand how do I tell ssh to connect to client x behind gateway y???07:49
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Seveasthomas___, good now esdplay /usr/share/sounds/login.wav07:50
thomas___Razor-X: catted /dev/urandom, too. did that on my other machine a while back, nixe noise07:50
xozdverzolla: initrd is just for booting... very basic root dir... not even a real one.07:50
PIANISTTriffid: Yes I forward the port. but there are several clients.... how do I say wich I want to connect to?07:50
thomas___Seveas: esdplay: command not found07:51
Seveasthomas___, on Ubuntu you cannot use /dev/dsp directly...07:51
dverzollaxoz, You know where I can find these scripts in the Hoary-CD?07:51
thomas___oh, right. did that on a debian07:51
Triffid_HunterPIANIST: when you forward the port, you forward it to a particular ip...07:51
Seveasthomas___, sudo aptitude install esound-clients07:51
dverzollaxoz, All are archived ;(07:51
AlexBOWell. I've already found the software. bye07:51
xozdverzolla: it is just used so that the modules not compiled statically needed to load the ide drivers and rootfs can be loaded before actually loading the real root.07:51
highvoltagedverzolla: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:51
thomas___Seveas: nothing07:51
Razor-Xthomas___: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?07:51
highvoltageall the scripts you need are on your system07:51
thomas___Razor-X: u07:51
thomas___f kde:)07:52
PIANISTlets say so... I have the port open on the firewall configuration so no forwarding actually. is it also possible ?07:52
Razor-Xthomas___: I like it meself07:52
PIANIST<-- sorry German07:52
Seveasthomas___, what nothing...?07:52
thomas___Seveas: no sound to hear esdplay'ing that07:52
Seveasthomas___, but esdplay exited after about 11 seconds?07:52
thomas___Razor-X: everybody's different, don't wanna start a flame07:52
dverzolla/var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg.config07:52
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xozdverzolla: read the documentation. you cannot fish here because the info and familiarization with the boot mechanism takes time and understanding.07:52
dverzollahighvoltage, thanks07:53
thomas___Seveas: yeah, exited07:53
JingleBellscan someone tell me how to setup XMMS to mute itself and not the entire system?07:53
dverzollaxoz, Ok! I will search... thanks07:53
Seveasthomas___, paste the output of amixer on the pastebin07:53
JingleBellsi have it setup to use the ESD output plugin, and now mute in XMMS does sod all07:53
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PIANISTtriffid_Hunter: still here?07:53
Razor-Xwow, that's sad, my PDF viewer is taking up more memory than my emacs is ;)07:53
Razor-X(stupid vi trolls ;)07:53
wing`^DodGeR^, its not working man07:54
Razor-X5 times more memory, actually07:54
GerriallHey guys. Does Ubuntu support WPA for Wireless with a standard load? Or do I need to add something else to make that work?07:54
thomas___Seveas: where's the pastebin here?07:54
PIANIST!seeb Triffid_Hunter07:54
ubotuPIANIST: Are you smoking crack?07:54
Triffid_HunterPIANIST: does your gateway have ssh, or are you forwarding ports?07:54
Razor-XGerriall: wireless itself isn't standard07:54
Seveasthomas___, paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:54
Dr_Willisgotta hate nonstandard  standards.07:54
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Dr_Willis:(07:54
PIANIST? ubotu: what ??????????? why?07:54
thomas___yeah, just got it07:54
^DodGeR^ok wing` , u got a windows box that cant resolv ip's ? and its net is configured via dhcp ?07:54
SeveasPIANIST, ubotu is the bot in here07:54
thomas___Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/72107:54
Seveasyou mispelled !seen07:54
PIANISTTriffid: it has ssh. But I am NOT forwarding.... is it still possible07:55
Razor-XDr_Willis: you mean like every single fscking thing that MS does?07:55
muelliHmm... I need the libavformat.so but I don't know where to get it. Does anyone in here?07:55
wing`^DodGeR^, yes07:55
PIANISTSeveas: O i c07:55
wing`^DodGeR^, it cant resolve ips, but it is connected and configured over dhcp07:55
Dr_WillisRazor-X,  their standard is 'screw with everyone else'07:55
Razor-Xoh yeah, '`s' and `b' are next to each other on you people's keyboards *frowns*07:55
Dr_Willis:P07:55
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^DodGeR^u want to configure the windows box to use static information wing` , ie give it an ip/gateway / dns server etc manually, forget dhcp (if possible)07:55
Razor-XDr_Willis: I have yet to see and RFC they follow dilligently07:55
Razor-Xs/and/a/07:55
Dr_Williscant resolive www to ip# , implies a dns server setting is wrong.. if it cant even ping the ip#'s directly - gateway issue.07:56
wing`^DodGeR^, i already tried this way, but it dont even connects07:56
Seveasthomas___, maybe you have mulitple soundcards..?07:56
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wing`^DodGeR^, i got closest with DHCP07:56
Seveasor an onboard and normal card...07:56
Dr_WillisRazor-X,  RFC's are for  the commoners.07:56
Dr_Willis:P07:56
wing`^DodGeR^, at least its connected, and the internet is shared07:56
Razor-XDr_Willis: ;)07:56
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wing`^DodGeR^, only this small dns problem07:56
Seveaswing`, you can use DHCP for ip addresses whilst using static DNS servers07:56
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thomas___Seveas: was my first thought, too. but just the onboard one07:57
wing`Seveas, im trying that, but its not working07:57
Razor-Xi'll bet you, more than half of the people here aren't those `commoners'07:57
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Seveasthomas___, surrround set and speakers plugged only in the back sockets ?07:57
wing`Seveas, my DNS here in linux is 192.168.254.254 because its a router modem07:57
PIANISTTriffid_Hunter: it has ssh. But I am NOT forwarding.... is it still possible07:57
Razor-XI feel like playing some Fantasy RPG.... or making one....07:57
wing`Seveas, so i dont know what to put in the static dns window07:57
Triffid_HunterPIANIST: man ssh. find the tunneling section. you want the -L option07:57
Seveaswing`, 192.168.254.25407:57
^DodGeR^the ip of the linux router wing`07:57
wing`in the STATIC dns?07:57
^DodGeR^right07:57
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thomas___Seveas: yeah, just speakers in there07:58
wing`one moment07:58
Seveaswing`, on the windows machine in the static dns indeed07:58
thespiritoftalcan someone tell me how to install java? I have the bin file...07:58
wing`ill try that07:58
MuelliHmm... Does no one know where to get the libavformat.so ?07:58
Seveaswing`, plug em in the front speaker sockets07:58
Razor-Xthespiritoftal: ./foo.bin07:58
Dr_Willisthe ubuntu wiki/forums have detailed docs on java installing. :P07:58
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^DodGeR^!java07:58
ubotujava is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.07:58
^DodGeR^@ thespiritoftal07:58
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xozMuelli: install apt-file07:59
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arpanhi, any enlightenment users here?07:59
SeveasMuelli, install ffmpeg07:59
xozubutu, who owns you?07:59
Muellii'll try xoz07:59
Seveasxoz, cafuego07:59
xozubotu: who owns you08:00
ubotuxoz: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:00
thomas___Seveas: meant "<@Seveas> wing`, plug em in the front speaker sockets" for me? i only have the back sockets, none on the front on this box..08:00
MuelliSeveas, i already did, but there is definitly no libavfomat._so_ there is a .a08:00
PIANISTTriffid_Hunter: When I am not wrong it means that I connect to the gateway with the IP and port of the Client as parameter for the -L option ?08:00
xozSeveas: similar factoids with dpkg?08:00
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Triffid_HunterPIANIST: yep08:00
Seveasthomas___, yeah sorry was meant for you but you misunderstood my earlier question. Discard it :)08:00
PIANISTok thnx dude08:00
apokryphosxoz: he's a blootbot too08:00
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SeveasMuelli, hmm08:01
thomas___Seveas: another idea?08:01
PIANISTcya  @  all08:01
MuelliI checked on rpmfind.com too :-/08:01
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Seveasthomas___, not really... are you sure the speakers are switched on?08:01
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wing`Seveas, not working08:01
wing`Seveas,  no way, its not resolving08:01
thomas___Seveas: yeah, and everything works in windows, too ..08:02
Cooner750alright. I got error 15 after formatting the Ubuntu partition. So I installed Ubuntu again just to be able to boot windows. Anybody know why this error appears08:02
Cooner750?08:02
wing`Seveas, my ubuntu is configured with dhcp3, dns = 192.168.254.25408:02
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wing`wing`, and windows got the IP, but no DNS08:02
thomas___Seveas: this is really frustrating. i'm trying to get my little brother switch to linux (ubuntu) and his sound doesn't work :(08:02
wing`oops08:02
Cooner750this error: http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/cooner750/darn_errors.html08:02
wing`Seveas,08:02
Cooner750thomas___: do you have the audio codecs installed (aka trying to play mp3s?)08:03
Cooner750?08:03
Seveascoobra, sounds like an error in the installer...08:03
thomas___Cooner750: yeah08:03
Cooner750Do the other sounds work (system sounds)?08:03
thomas___Cooner750: did the "install multimedoa codecs" from the inofficial german howto08:03
wing`^DodGeR^, are you there?08:03
thomas___Cooner750: no sound works at all08:03
Seveasthomas___, i'm out of clue now too: all diagnostics show it should work....08:03
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Cooner750Try http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/cooner750/codecs82456.html08:03
^DodGeR^wing`,  im here yes08:03
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thomas___Seveas: exactly what i thought..08:03
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^DodGeR^wing`, windows shoudl really eb the easiest to configure dns/routing for08:04
wing`^DodGeR^, its not working08:04
wing`^DodGeR^,  maybe the problem is in my dhcp server?08:04
thomas___Cooner750: they're all already installed..08:04
wing`ubuntu08:04
SeveasCooner750, that error on the webpage is not grub error 15....08:04
Cooner750I know08:04
^DodGeR^if thw windows box can ping the gateway and dns server it should work wing`08:04
Cooner750I know why I got the GRUB error. That's not the issue08:04
Seveasok08:04
wing`i read something about dnsmasq08:04
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Cooner750It's the error I get when Ubuntu starts to load08:04
wing`dont know08:04
Seveasthis is probably an intrd error08:04
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Seveasor a malformed menu.lst08:05
wing`^DodGeR^, maybe its not working because my DNS is my modem IP08:05
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Cooner750I've had the same problem with a different distro on a pendrive08:05
Cooner750same error08:05
thomas___FUCK08:05
Seveaswing`, use one of your providers dns servers then...08:05
^DodGeR^yeah wing` - try using an open DNS server ..08:05
Chris_Tuckerhow can i find the urls to the repository stuff so i can download the .deb files with wget?08:05
Cooner750thomas___: did you do the gst-register step?08:05
^DodGeR^wing`, use the ip of a DNS server your isp gave u08:05
^DodGeR^maybe that works wing`08:06
wing`ok08:06
wing`ill call my isp08:06
Cooner750open a terminal and type gst-register-0.8 and hit enter08:06
Cooner750see what that does08:06
SeveasChris_Tucker, apt-cache show $packagename08:06
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MuelliHmm... Still no libavformat.so :-\08:06
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SeveasMuelli, apt-file search indicate the file does not exist on Ubuntu...08:06
zerboxxWhat is the easiest way to see information re: my partitions?08:06
Seveaszerboxx, sudo fdisk -l08:06
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Chris_Tuckerthanks Seveas08:07
Cooner750My steps for installing codecs have worked every time. I know I can play MP3s amd08:07
Muellihmm Seveas .. So what to do? *g*08:07
Cooner750and*08:07
Cooner750Mpegs08:07
zerboxxSeveas: Is there a way to see how much space each has, and how much they're currently using?08:07
SeveasMuelli, ENOCLUE :)08:07
NightLordi just installed wine using apt-get, how do i get it to automatically run when i click an exe?08:07
Cooner750http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/cooner750/codecs82456.html --- I'll have to put that on my website some day08:07
Seveaszerboxx, df -h08:07
xozzerboxx: df -h08:07
drummerHelp please - I pasted in the repository lists from paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 and now I get an error message of "W: Couldn't stat source package list...." for every line in sources.list08:07
Cooner750NightLord: Right click on the EXE and then "Properties"08:07
Cooner750go to the "Open With" tab08:07
Dr_WillisNightLord,  ive found that rarely works out well.08:07
zerboxxSeveas: xoz: Just what I was looking for, thanks!08:07
Seveasdrummer, apt-get update08:08
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Cooner750Click "Add" (if wine isnt there already) and find wine in the list. Should be towards the bottom08:08
drummerSeveas - I'll try that.08:08
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MuelliSeveas,  *g* well.. Do you know, if that file is for debian out there?08:08
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arpanhi, can i have 2 GUI desktops open on ubuntu?08:09
NightLordthanks08:09
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Cooner750NightLord: Did it work?08:10
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zookoGreetings, People of #ubuntu!  Where can I get w32codecs?08:10
Seveasarpan, yes08:10
^DodGeR^u can arpan , i ran gdm twice - worked fine08:10
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arpanSeveas, how do i do it?08:10
klaymanyone know which is the most popular p2p client out there? (most users - most files)08:11
klaymI mean p2p network08:11
Seveasarpan, applications -> system tools -> new login08:11
xozdverzolla: don't pm me08:11
everett_klyam, most of them are pretty overloaded.08:11
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xozklaym: try gtk-gnutella08:11
Seveasarpan, and if you install the xnest package: applications -> system tools -> new login in nested windows (that one is really cooL)08:11
JinkgunsBittorrent is really where it is at.08:11
klaymyea I'd guess bittorrent too08:12
phixionbuh having so much trouble trying to get rtorrent working08:12
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JinkgunsThey have some good bittorrent search sites up if you google it.08:12
arpan^DodGeRthx guys08:12
arpanits working08:12
JinkgunsHow do I kill wanda the fish? <:08:13
epzooko, to install w32codecs you have to add a backport repository to your sources.list, update and apt-get install08:13
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SeveasJinkguns, with a shotgun :)08:13
Jinkguns:D08:13
zookoep: I have deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted , but apt-cache search says no w32codecs.08:13
zooko08:14
zookoI'm now following the instructions involving running a gstreamer thing...08:14
thespiritoftalfriends when I do "sudo apt-get upgrade after hitting y it aborts without saying anything :/ does anyone know why this happens?08:14
Seveaszooko, you need hoary-extras instead of hoary-backports08:14
zookohttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs08:14
zookoSeveas: thanks!08:14
Seveasubuntuguide is not the best source of information....08:14
wing`^DodGeR^, nothing08:14
wing`^DodGeR^, dont works08:14
zookoubuntuguide failed me already before I came to this channel.08:14
JinkgunsDIE WANDA DIE *Click*08:14
klaymwhere can I find 'BitTorrent Meta File' (gnome bittorrent asking me on initial startup :P)08:14
^DodGeR^very weird wing` , is there another box u can route the windows box through ?08:15
zookoOh, I see that it *does* say hoary-extras in there.  The text was too much so I didn't see that part...08:15
wing`no08:15
^DodGeR^ugg08:15
xozthespiritoftal: how large is the total upgrade in disk size?08:15
wing`its pinging googles ips but not www.google.com08:15
wing`same with the other websites08:15
wing`the windows client08:15
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wing`why is that :/08:16
JinkgunsHas anyone here have experince with kernel-package? I need to downgrade from 2.6 to 2.4 with a fully compiled source in /usr/src/linux and install matching kernel headers.08:16
^DodGeR^good q wing` , it 'should' work fine really - set windows dns sevrer manually and reboot windows ? no clues :(08:16
phixionanyone here use rtorrent?08:16
SeveasJinkguns, you are going to run into a LOT of problems when you run 2.408:17
apokryphosphixion: yup08:17
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SeveasJinkguns, ubuntu relies heavily on 2.608:17
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phixionapokryphos, im having so many probs getting it working, u fancy helping me? ;/08:17
xozthespiritoftal: no pm please08:17
LuNaTiK^GuYY do the NetBeans fonts look so 'old-fashioned'08:17
zookothanks!08:17
LuNaTiK^GuY?08:17
thespiritoftalsorry08:17
apokryphosphixion: what's the prob, and what app you using?08:17
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JinkgunsWell this scanning tunneling electron microscope software that turns this computer connected to $4,000 worth of scientific equipment into something useful likes 2.3.08:18
Jinkguns*2.408:18
Jinkguns:(08:18
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phixionwell, im issuing the command 'rtorrent file.torrent'08:18
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xozJinkguns: 2.4 to 2.6, you can use make oldconfig.. but downgrade, good luck!08:18
phixionrtorrent: error while loading shared libraries: libtorrent.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:18
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Jinkgunso.O08:19
rathelis there a console command that I could use to convert png to xpm? instead of opening up the gimp and doing it that way.08:19
apokryphosphixion: where did you get that program from? I don't see it in the repos08:19
apokryphosphixion: I really recommend using azureus08:19
JinkgunsHow do I install depmod.modutils? It sin't on synaptic's universe repositories.08:19
xozrathel: man imagemagick08:19
wing`^DodGeR^,  :/08:19
Seveasrathel, mogrify -format xpm08:19
wing`^DodGeR^, i'll have to give up and stall windows again here lol08:19
phixiondloaded it08:19
phixionazureus spits out loads of errors tho08:19
Seveasrathel, part of imagemagick08:20
wing`^DodGeR^, i'll have to give up and install windows again here lol08:20
rathelokay, thanks.08:20
apokryphosphixion: like what?08:20
phixionwhen i start azureus i get an update popup08:20
phixionthen i get an error for tht08:20
qt2wow...08:20
phixionthen it randomly spits out errors08:20
qt2my firefox extentions page looks VERY strange...08:20
apokryphosphixion: ignore it08:20
qt2o.o;08:20
qt2https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/?application={ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}08:20
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apokryphosphixion: asking to update is not an error message08:20
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LuNaTiK^GuYLinux systems should use a SAME base-font for all apps on a current system....y does every app have different foints in the menubars???08:20
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LuNaTiK^GuYit's irritating08:20
phixionlol... i know, i mean the update box pops up with .zip files in (windows updates) and then i get an error in the bottom right corner08:21
LuNaTiK^GuYthose are some design-cues that M$ has got an edge over Linux  IMHO08:21
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HappyFoolfirefox still broken ?08:21
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SeveasLuNaTiK^GuY, bull...08:21
apokryphosHappyFool: yes08:21
LuNaTiK^GuYSeveas why?08:21
^DodGeR^wing it shouldnt need a reinstall08:21
doonzis it possible to run windows games on ubuntu?08:21
LuNaTiK^GuYi dont like having a trillion fonts all around08:22
LuNaTiK^GuYi want a standard!08:22
epwhat version of firefox is broken?08:22
Jinkgunsdoonz, www.winex.com08:22
SeveasLuNaTiK^GuY, read up about qt/gtk/gth2 and understand the differences....08:22
joolzep: the last one08:22
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joolzep: if you're on hoary: don't do todays ff update!!08:22
doonzthnx Jink08:22
Seveasyou make your own standard by only using programs that are based upon one of these..08:22
LuNaTiK^GuYthe differences should be there in the first place darnnnnnnn08:22
qt2is there a reason my firefox extentions page is showing up in like... rss mode?08:23
apokryphosErr, why shouldn't the differneces be there?08:23
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Seveasbrb08:23
wing`:/08:23
apokryphosIf you're using a different toolkit you should expect different customizations08:23
epi did one yesterdaty or the day before, can't recall -- but I haven't notice anything wrong with firefox.08:23
LuNaTiK^GuYapokryphos, ok how can i get ONE standard look?08:23
Jinkgunsoops08:23
Jinkgunsdooz, http://www.transgaming.com/08:23
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JinkgunsThere. :D08:23
xoztalking of people talking in different language....08:23
apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: Not sure how to do it for gnome, since I don't use it; for kde I do.08:23
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JinkgunsWinex from transgaming is $5 a month, but it worked for me really well.08:24
LuNaTiK^GuYi think i'll be going on to Kubuntu :(08:24
noddabaalright, so a co-worker hosed our box by moving the rootdir to a subdir, and now i can't even ls.  i recall (maybe i'm wrong) that there's a way to still get a directory listing just using built in bash stuff.  isn't it like:    for x in .; do echo $x; done ?08:24
Dr_Willisqt2,  ive noticed probvmes with it for the last 2 days08:24
Dr_Willisqt2,  not sure whats going on with them08:24
LuNaTiK^GuYdarn i love gnome for some of its features :(08:24
apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: just to get similar fonts? Sounds like a bad reason. Don't get me wrong, I recommend Kubuntu over ordinary Ubuntu, but for other reasons :P08:24
qt2Dr_Willis, *asks in #firefox*08:24
LuNaTiK^GuYi dont wish to part08:24
HappyFoolnoddaba: try maybe 'for x in *; do echo $; done'08:24
Dr_Willisqt2,  it was messing up under windows and linux for me both08:25
apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: you don't need to part. Install kubuntu and see if you like it; you can use both at the same time08:25
apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: unless you're low on space...08:25
LuNaTiK^GuYapokryphos, i find it very irritating to have to face different font-types for every app08:25
LuNaTiK^GuYi tried kubuntu...its was nice08:25
Dr_Willisheh first thing i normally do is instll the kubuntu packages.08:25
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xoznoddaba: try for i in *; do echo $i; done08:25
Dr_Willisso i got both08:25
LuNaTiK^GuYbut i found ubuntu more functional in some respects08:25
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apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: any examples?08:26
LuNaTiK^GuYapokryphos, it may be i learnt more in gnome....when i was yet a beginner with Kubuntu :)08:26
LuNaTiK^GuYu tihnk i should go for Kubuntu?08:26
Dr_Willisi install ubuntu, then simple apt-get kubunut-somthing :P heh heh best of both worlds08:26
apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: I think you should definitely try it out08:26
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xozubuntu is good for desktop but not for serious server or development system08:27
apokryphosDr_Willis: kubuntu-desktop08:27
LuNaTiK^GuYi did use Kubuntu08:27
noddabaHappyFool, xoz, that did it, thanks08:27
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Dr_Willisi imagine eventually they will ask during install  what you want.08:27
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apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, try it out now, ask questions in #kubuntu and see how it goes08:27
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LuNaTiK^GuYok i'll do that :)08:28
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LuNaTiK^GuYwhat am i expecting?08:28
apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: an amazing desktop environment ;-)08:28
phixionrepos are sooooooo slowwwwwwwwwww08:28
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LuNaTiK^GuYkdevelop is awesome......and so is k3b08:28
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LuNaTiK^GuYsomething of the sort should be in gnome :S08:28
epWhere can I read up on the firefox bug?08:29
qt2Dr_Willis, perhaps it has something to do with the new deer park alpha?08:29
apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: amaroK is probably my favourite at the moment08:29
apokryphosespecially development version of it; got some excellent new stuff08:29
LuNaTiK^GuYu can burn cd/dvd with amaroK?08:29
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epour ubuntu/firefox bug08:29
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Dr_Willisqt2,  not sre what ya mean :P i went with a clean firefox install yesterday and the site was all messed up.. went back later and it worked.. but acted odd in ways08:29
The_Voxapokryphos: amarok rules...except it insists on killing kde or X (haven't debuged what exactly) in my box every now and then and pissing me off08:29
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apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: oh, I meant just as "my favourite app" at the moment. You can burn CDs with it though via k3b08:30
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LuNaTiK^GuYand in gnome?08:30
wing`anyone here can help me with a DNS problem?08:30
LuNaTiK^GuYwots the k3b substitute?08:30
apokryphosThe_Vox: sounds odd; are you sure it's down to amaroK? Are you running the version from the repositories?08:30
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apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: there's apps like gnomebaker I think08:30
The_Voxapokryphos: yes and yes08:30
apokryphosnone as advanced, though08:30
HappyFoolhere's a thread about b0rken firefox; it seems it might involve extensions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50686&page=1&pp=1008:30
tazQuestion : I have installed a samba server here.. When i try to connect to a folder i have shared it wont accept my usal login.. Is it different logins for samba?08:31
The_Voxapokryphos: once every 10 or so times, when I hit stop X or KDE bombs08:31
apokryphosThe_Vox: sounds really mean; you should compile a bug report08:31
apokryphosThe_Vox: though, I'd recommend compiling 1.3beta2 from source. New features there -- great stuf.08:31
apokryphos*stuff08:31
xoztaz: possible encryption problem.... one expects plain text, the other expects encryption.08:31
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The_Voxapokryphos: I've been thinking about doing that, actually...and see if my luck gets better and they got the marginal bug that is killing me :)08:32
epHere it is, I found the ubuntu bug information on the firefox page!  It detected I was using ubuntu firefox and game be the url of the bug report.08:32
HappyFooltaz: i think you need to add your user to the smb database using 'smbpasswd' (this is if you want to connect *to* a linux box, not from)08:32
xoztaz: try another client or check configuration of the samba server.08:32
occygrrr08:32
apokryphosThe_Vox: hopefully; it's definitely worth trying out08:32
The_VoxHappyFool: it depends on the security mode you chose in smb.conf08:32
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tazHappyFool, ah okis :)08:32
LuNaTiK^GuYonce i get kubuntu-desktop....does that mean i'll have kde replace my gnome?08:32
xoztaz: assuming you have correct smbpasswd08:32
tazxoz, i recognice the problem you talk about..08:33
apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: no08:33
The_VoxLuNaTiK^GuY: you can chose gnome or kde in the login screen08:33
xoztaz: and?08:33
LuNaTiK^GuYoh ic ;)08:33
LuNaTiK^GuYso no need to install kubuntu from scratch :)08:33
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Dr_WillisLuNaTiK^GuY,  heh right...08:33
apokryphosNope, never.08:33
tazxoz, i will try.. i did set a new smb password now..08:33
Dr_WillisLuNaTiK^GuY,  its trivially easy.08:33
DekaPinkBit of a stupid question here... Has gnome ever been ported to windows? xD08:33
LuNaTiK^GuYbut will my installed net beans be on kde too?08:34
qt2Dr_Willis, http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2005/07/12/deer-park-alpha-2-released/ <- i'm referring to this.08:34
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Dr_WillisDekaPink,  with cygwin you can get X and gnome going.08:34
Dr_WillisDekaPink,  i Think... :P08:34
xoztaz: OS X smb support had problems also... we have to fool it to recognize plain text authentication.08:34
apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: net beans?08:34
LuNaTiK^GuYyeah the Java IDE...Netbeans08:34
noddabaalright, so while most of the files are still there, /bin and /etc are gone.  i can get to scp and rcp in /usr/bin, but I'm assuming because the /etc dir is gone, it cant figure out who i am, so I get this error when trying to scp:  unknown user 0  Any ideas?08:34
DekaPinkCr_Willis: Cool... :D Yeah, I really don't know which way is up in cygwin. Hehe.08:34
tazxoz, nah.. did not work with the password i set...08:34
DekaPinkDr*08:34
apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: all your programs should run fine still of course, no idea what that is though.08:35
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LuNaTiK^GuYthe free IDE from Sun08:35
xoztaz: check /etc/samba/smb.conf ... try reversing the option regarding password encryption.08:35
LuNaTiK^GuYits awesome08:35
apokryphosDekaPink: you can use Tab for autocompletion of nicks in IRC08:35
DekaPinkapokryphos: How keen... Thank you. :D08:35
tazxoz, ok, will try.. thx08:35
xoztaz: you can also try commandline instead of gui to have full control of the client's option08:35
tazok08:35
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Dr_Willisqt2,  what the heck is deerpark? yet another browser branching? :P08:36
LuNaTiK^GuYwots the difference between X and something like Gnome or KDE?08:36
Dr_WillisX is what Gnome and KDE run on top of08:36
Dr_WillisX is the foundation. Gnome is the House.08:36
SeveasLuNaTiK^GuY, X is the core, gnome and kde are the desktop envronments...08:36
apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: GNOME and KDE are GUI desktop environments08:36
SeveasDr_Willis, nice one08:36
LuNaTiK^GuYhmmm08:36
LuNaTiK^GuYwot is X's job?08:36
LuNaTiK^GuYto keep everything running even if gnome-panel is killed?08:37
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qt2Dr_Willis, http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:Home_Page <- Its the codename for FireFox 1.1...08:37
apokryphoserr... no. GNOME relies upon the X server to run08:37
Dr_Willisqt2,  yea - just found the faq. :P  gesh cant they just call it FireFox Beta1.1 :P08:37
LuNaTiK^GuYis there an analogy in Windows?08:38
LuNaTiK^GuY:)08:38
epwill the firefox problem be fixed with a future upgrade?08:38
qt2Dr_Willis, no, because it's Alpha 2... *snicker*08:38
Dr_Willisqt2,  yea - just found the faq. :P  gesh cant they just call it FireFox Alpha2.1.1.1.1.11.1 :P08:38
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apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: I tend to think of it in levels. X is just the level below DEs08:38
djpep: hopefully. Add any comments you have here https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1285408:39
qt2Dr_Willis, deer park sounds cooler. ;)08:39
qt2speaking of which... longhorn finally got renamed... :(08:39
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mebaran151LuNaTiK^GuY, windows isnt quite so modular08:39
LuNaTiK^GuYapokryphos, hmmm ok.....each time i try learning something new with Linux...its like there's so much to handle :(08:39
xozLuNaTiK^GuY: in windows, you mess the graphics, you're dead. in linux, X, desktop, etc are just separate processes .. you fucked one of them, the kernel is still working... no blue screen of *death*08:39
Mortiqt2: What're they calling it now?08:39
mebaran151you cant start windows without starting its implementation of x08:39
mebaran151X draws windows on your screen08:40
qt2moquist, http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/default.mspx <= Windows Vista08:40
Dr_Willisqt2,  "Trailor Park"08:40
LuNaTiK^GuYyes the modularity part i got08:40
LuNaTiK^GuYit shows all over08:40
mebaran151it is the abstraction of the video device08:40
LuNaTiK^GuYsometimes i liked it...sometimes i dont :)08:40
mebaran151so that every application doesnt need to know about the framebuffer08:40
mebaran151in this case it is very GOOD08:40
Dr_WillisLuNaTiK^GuY,  linux is all about "Layers and Legos" little programs (legos) form together to make layers.. that then have more layers of software on them..08:40
Dr_Willis:P08:40
mebaran151as X hosts programs for you08:40
xozLuNaTiK^GuY: KISS --- keep it simple stupid.08:40
mebaran151if something goes astray you can just kill and restart X08:40
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The_VoxLuNaTiK^GuY: X paints pixels in your screen...kde or gnome or enlightenment or whatever else just tells X which pixels to paint and with what characteristics to paint them08:41
tazxoz, question.. in smb.conf some lines are commented with ; in the beginning.. is that line "disabled" then? -> ;   guest account = nobody08:41
mebaran151it is up to a manager like GNOME or KDE to actually tell X what windows to draw08:41
Dr_Willis; is a commented out line08:41
LuNaTiK^GuYhmmm08:41
LuNaTiK^GuYok X is nice ;)08:41
xoztaz: yep, they are commments08:41
The_Voxtaz: yes08:41
tazokis08:41
Dr_Willishowever ; foo=bar   MAY be the default anyway its just showing the setting and its 'normal' setting.08:41
qt2modularity is good, but it needs unification.08:41
tazxoz,  encrypt passwords = true08:41
qt2...that sounds retarted when i say it that way.... XD08:41
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xozand if you're good, you can request X to paint other people's desktop in your desktop and know what they are doing in real time :)08:42
apokryphosLuNaTiK^GuY: aha -- [[X_Window_System] ] 08:42
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LuNaTiK^GuYok now can i ask something else?08:42
mebaran151shoot08:42
LuNaTiK^GuYi aam playing dvd's08:42
LuNaTiK^GuYthey run fine08:42
xoztaz: yep08:42
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LuNaTiK^GuYbut08:42
LuNaTiK^GuYi took a look at CPU usage08:43
tazxoz, that was already set..08:43
LuNaTiK^GuYand its like at 30%08:43
LuNaTiK^GuYin WinXP it never went up that high :S08:43
xoztaz: try false08:43
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xoztaz: or use a client that use encryption08:43
mebaran151LuNaTiK^GuY, how do you actually know?08:43
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LuNaTiK^GuYcoz i checked the CPU usage too08:43
LuNaTiK^GuYlo.08:43
LuNaTiK^GuYlol08:43
mebaran151I think WinXP takes out its own processes when it gives you CPU usage08:43
LuNaTiK^GuYand it ran smoother in XP08:44
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mebaran151so that when nothing is running you get 0 usage at all (it basically forgets the kernel)08:44
LuNaTiK^GuYevery 5 seconds or so..i'm getting a slight drag08:44
Dr_Willisyou may want to enable the DMA access for the dvd drive also.08:44
mebaran151LuNaTiK^GuY, what player are you using08:44
mebaran151try mplayer08:44
LuNaTiK^GuYyes i think i have to....08:44
LuNaTiK^GuYi used both Xine and Totem08:44
mebaran151overall better system08:44
LuNaTiK^GuYsame results08:44
RodrigoDLMHi everyone08:44
LuNaTiK^GuYok i'll get mplayer08:44
tazxoz, will try that... false.. btw.. when i share a folder.. what is the "browseable" setting for?08:44
mebaran151actually08:44
mebaran151if you are comfortable08:44
xozLuNaTiK^GuY: mplayer is the *best*08:44
mebaran151it is best to compile mplayer from source08:45
mebaran151because than you can enable really nifty features08:45
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LuNaTiK^GuYis there something like PowerDVD for linux? lol08:45
mebaran151like large-file support and SSE2 extension08:45
LuNaTiK^GuYi love it :S08:45
Burgundaviaactually, mplayer is best avoided08:45
wing`anyone there that knows about DNS and dhcp can help me08:45
mebaran151LuNaTiK^GuY, mplayer08:45
mebaran151Burgundavia, why?08:45
mebaran151works flawlessly in my custom compile08:45
LuNaTiK^GuYok mplayer it will be08:45
xoztaz: its contents are listed08:45
Burgundaviamebaran151, not pretty, doesn't integrate well with anything, hostile upstream08:45
sksjdawing` me too i have same proplem setting it08:45
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wing`sksjda, everything is working here, internet shared and stuff... but the FUCKING dns dont work in the client08:46
tazxoz, via smb? .. ok..08:46
mebaran151Burgundavia, I am trying to write a GTK2 frontend for it right now08:46
LuNaTiK^GuYi get an error "New_face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong" when starting mplayer08:46
epi think mplayer is pretty.  Its those win-amp skins i cant' stand :p08:46
wing`sksjda, i can only ping by ip, if i put the hostname nothing works08:46
mebaran151but yeah, it's a little shallow on integration08:46
tazxoz, how do i restart the smbd?08:46
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mebaran151unfortunately it has the best codecs in the business08:46
xoztaz: sudo /etc/init.d/smb restart08:46
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Burgundaviamebaran151, rb and totem would be better targets if you are trying to help ubuntu08:47
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felixdz2Can anybody tell me the package name of the little thingy that tells you how mcuh power you have in your laptop?08:47
mebaran151rb?08:47
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Burgundaviarhythmbox08:47
tazxoz, you are a star :)08:47
mebaran151rhythmbox seems to fit all my needs08:47
mebaran151and it works flawless08:47
mebaran151and I am on AMD6408:47
mebaran151not sure what to fix .....08:47
sksjdai have proplem setting the DNS and i have static config not dhcp08:47
mebaran151it looks nice an reads my ipod08:48
drummerok I've run apt-get update 3 times and I still get error messages when I fire up synaptic   errors are: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)08:48
wing`my DNS works only in server08:48
wing`its not working @ client08:48
Burgundaviamebaran151, extended it mostly08:48
mebaran151with what?08:48
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mebaran151it feels pretty complete08:48
Burgundaviacd playback08:48
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Burgundaviazeroconf support08:48
mebaran151ah08:48
Burgundaviaripping08:48
mebaran151cd playback08:48
Burgundaviatrack editing08:48
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mebaran151I dont think that should be part of rhythmbox, editing08:49
Burgundavias/track/tag08:49
xozdrummer: meaning either it is true or you messed up with your config. try using another mirror site?08:49
mebaran151itunes is the standard08:49
Burgundaviayes08:49
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drummerxoz: what other mirror site and how to I configure to use that site?08:49
mcphailfelixdz2: i think the battery monitor just comes as part of the gnome desktop08:49
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Burgundaviamebaran151, I would love you if you could get a nice notification icon, ala the muine one08:49
LuNaTiK^GuYhow can i set mplayer to play dvd-s from another drive08:50
LuNaTiK^GuYi have 2?08:50
xozdrummer: try apt-setup.. not sure. search in www.ubuntu.org?08:50
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tazxoz, /etc/init.d/samba restart   ... fyi ;)08:50
drummerxoz: Ok I'll do some looking08:50
xoztaz: heh. is it working?08:50
chaps0063Can someone recommend a good WM?08:51
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xozopenbox if you want small and powerful08:51
tazxoz, nopes.. as username i use an account i have.. that is supposed to work i guess? .. will try with the encrypt=false option now..08:51
blacktoothxfce4!!!08:51
ed1tgnome!08:51
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mebaran151Burgundavia, I dont know muine08:51
felixdz2I installed yesterday with xfce4 in a minimal system. Decided I wanted gnome back. So I have just did apt-get install gnome-desktop08:51
mebaran151as I am amd6408:52
nophixnone!08:52
ed1tlol08:52
felixdz2But the applet doesn't seem t be there08:52
ed1tuse teh command line08:52
nophixno, use your own mind and try them all out :P08:52
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felixdz2I find Fluxbox good for some things08:52
xoztaz: create a passwd... smbpasswd.. don't use your account since it may not be encrypted.08:52
Burgundaviamebaran151, the muine notification thing allows me to queue music without opening the whole muine window08:52
mcphailfelixdz2: have you right clicked on the top panel?08:52
mebaran151oh08:52
mebaran151you mean like a little box08:52
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tazxoz, i did create a password with smbpasswd ... what username am i supposed to have then?08:53
epdamn power company, lost electricity and my computer died.   I gotta get me on of uninteruptable power thingies08:53
xoztaz: ah... what i mean is make sure you don't enable synchronization with your account password...ignore it08:53
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xoztaz: gotta sleep... night and good luck!08:54
tazxoz, oh.. w8.. hmm08:54
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tazxoz, machine 127.0.0.1 rejected the (anonymous) password change: Error was : Account disabled.08:54
tazxoz, ahh....08:54
LuNaTiK^GuYhmmmm08:54
LuNaTiK^GuYi cant get mplayer to play from my second drive08:54
Burgundaviamebaran151, ya08:54
tazxoz, guess i have to specify wich user for smbpassword too ;)08:54
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felixdz2mcphail, I figured it out. I just needed apt-get install gnome-applets-dbg08:55
epcan i get a fairly cheap uninteruptable power backup (supply) for a home-desktop system and still expect it to work?08:55
mebaran151Burgundavia, could you send me a screen shot08:55
mebaran151I think doing it wouldnt be too hard08:55
Burgundaviamebaran151, let me find you one08:55
felixdz2Thanks anyway08:55
mcphailok08:55
mebaran151though mplayer is easier to extend as EVERYTHING can be set at the cli08:55
mebaran151I dont know if I can do that with rhytmbox08:55
wing`http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=267217#post26721708:56
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doonzum guys i just installed cedega4.4 but um how do i work it?08:57
sksjdai have proplem .. i v'e setting the network and i can ping router and other computers but can't access to internet .  any ideas ?08:57
HappyFooli really *hate* nethack. stupid game.08:57
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tazppl... i have installed samba.. do i need to add a user account for smbd to be able to connect to my linux machine?08:57
spamalopewow frw08:58
spamalopeer ftw08:58
tazand would "smbpasswd -L -a testuser" work?08:58
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Seveastaz, you can use existing system accounts08:58
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Seveastaz, you need to set samba passwords for them though08:59
tazSeveas, yes, but to do that i have to enable it? right?08:59
MrGardenHoseManis there anything that can convert .bin .cue to iso that comes with ubuntu08:59
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tazSeveas, ok08:59
Seveastaz, yes, with smbpasswd08:59
SeveasMrGardenHoseMan, bchunk08:59
MrGardenHoseMancomes with ubuntu?08:59
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Seveassksjda, can you ping 194.145.194.14108:59
PurpleBluwhat is a ASP file?09:00
mebaran151Burgundavia, looking at the docs09:00
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tazSeveas, Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user tazsmb. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?  .....09:00
SeveasMrGardenHoseMan, from the Ubuntu repositories, yes09:00
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mebaran151doesnt look there is an easy way to pass a new playlist to the player09:00
tazSeveas, so i cant add a virtual user for smbd?09:00
MrGardenHoseManthanks09:00
Seveastaz, no09:00
Burgundaviamebaran151, damn09:00
mebaran151Muine, by contrast can be passed by a simple cli option09:00
Burgundaviamebaran151, muine ui --> http://www.nat.org/2004/october/muine.png09:00
tazSeveas, i see :)09:00
HappyFooltaz, have you read this? :09:01
HappyFool!samba09:01
ubotusamba is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba09:01
tazno..09:01
mebaran151Burgundavia, Muine looks nice ....09:01
tazbut i will now :)09:01
HappyFooltaz: also take a look at www.samba.org -- there's a comprehensive setup howto there09:01
mebaran151looks it integrates wtih goobox09:01
Burgundaviamebaran151, it is not09:01
mebaran151oh09:01
mebaran151I love goobox09:01
mebaran151best cdripper out there09:01
tazHappyFool, i just need answers about if i need to use "add user" in smbpasswd or just "enable user" ...09:02
mebaran151soundjuicer is SLOW ......09:02
Burgundaviayou can drag and drop between muine and serpentine though09:02
mebaran151serpentine?09:02
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highvoltagegoobox?09:02
highvoltageperhaps i should try that...09:02
mebaran151why is soundjuicer so slow anyway?09:02
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HappyFooltaz: i think you need to "add" them; samba keeps a separate list of users -- however, all samba users must be system users. this is rather annoying, imo -- samba used to have an entirely separate user list09:02
tazHappyFool, yeah.. the best would be if samba had a separate user database.. :)09:03
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audiohelphoary. asrock k7vt6 mobo. lsmod, lspci, lsof /dev/dsp and amixer outputs here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/318681 . works in win. why does audio not work in ubuntu??09:03
Burgundaviamebaran151, no idea09:03
tazHappyFool, its good that you can set different passwords though09:03
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murraycSo, on breezy, apt-get is complaining that openoffice.org2-core has unmet dependencies. How can I tell apt-get to just remove openoffice2.org2 and stop caring about it?09:03
Burgundaviamebaran151, if you dig it apart, you canrobably find out09:03
hybrid_gothmurrayc: breezy working over there?09:04
LuNaTiK^GuYmplayer just wont work :(09:04
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murraycNo, X is broken too.09:04
tazHappyFool, now it works.. i just did a "smbpasswd -L -a myuser"  .. (Add a new user and then set a password for it..)09:04
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HappyFooltaz: ok -- is that user a 'system' user ? (i.e., exists in /etc/passwd)09:05
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doonzanyone installed Cedega before?09:05
audiohelpneed audio help! asrock k7vt6 mobo. lsmod, lspci, lsof /dev/dsp and amixer outputs here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/318681. almsamixer sais everything is on. works in win. why does audio not work in ubuntu-hoary??09:05
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everett_How can I use the automatically generated config file 2.6.10-5-38 in /boot/ to compile a 2.6.10 kernel in /usr/src/ ?09:06
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tazHappyFool, yes, it was.. it was not possible to add a user not existing in the system... (virtual)09:06
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tazHappyFool, if i try i would get this: Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user test. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?09:06
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HappyFooleverett_: i think you copy it to /usr/src/linux-<whatever>/.config -- i.e., it needs to be called .config, and be in root of the linux source tree09:07
HappyFooleverett_: take a look here:09:07
HappyFool!kernelhowto09:07
ubotuI guess kernelhowto is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto09:07
fabrice_hi09:07
everett_hrm09:08
BollocksMacenzieDoes anyone know how to change the programs associated to certain file extensions? Totem keeps insisting on playing Real Player files despite having Real Player 10 and no rm plugin for totem...09:08
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HappyFooleverett_: building a new kernel is not trivial, afaik -- you need to make an initrd image, update grub, etc. That page should tell you more.09:08
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LuNaTiK^GuYwhen starting mplayer i get: New_face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. PLease supply the text font file09:08
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SeveasLuNaTiK^GuY, that's normal09:09
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everett_Happy, I've done it before, I would just like to use the same config so I don't have to go through prompts for an hour and deal with ugly error messages on boot up. :D09:09
SeveasHappyFool, make-kpkg --initrd does that for you :)09:09
LuNaTiK^GuYgetting errors is normal?09:09
nophixLuNaTiK^GuY: just select a font in preferences09:09
SeveasLuNaTiK^GuY, it's not an error...09:09
Seveasit's a warning...09:09
LuNaTiK^GuYwhere are the fonts stored?09:10
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nophix /usr/share/fonts/09:10
audiohelpneed audio help! asrock k7vt6 mobo. lsmod, lspci, lsof /dev/dsp and amixer outputs here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/318681. almsamixer sais everything is on. works in win. why does audio not work in ubuntu-hoary??2~09:10
audiohelpplz09:11
audiohelp=)09:11
LuNaTiK^GuY10ks :)09:11
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BollocksMacenzieHas anyone found out how to change associated file types for programs?09:11
Seveasstill no luck with it thomas___/audiohelp :)09:11
Seveas?09:11
audiohelpSeveas: nope :((09:12
audiohelpseems like my little brother's meant to be stuck with windows.. :/09:12
LuNaTiK^GuYi cant play a dvd from my second drive....why?09:12
SeveasBollocksMacenzie, rightclick on a file, select properties, tab 'open with'09:12
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CentaurI installed a printer and I could do a test page but I don't see the printer in openoffice when I want to print, what do I do?09:13
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Kamzitry going to tools, printer admin09:14
everett_Seveas: Ever feel like saying "because ubuntu hates you" in response to questions? :D09:14
Kamziyea09:14
blacktoothdoes ubuntu see the printer?09:15
BollocksMacenzieSeveas: cheers... Hadn't found that! Was searching through Real Player properties ands totem properties! Does it change the association for all the files of the same type?09:15
Kamzianyone got any suggestions for 56k modems unbuntu will like ?!09:15
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hyphenatedKamzi: external serial ones ;-)09:15
blacktoothnon software ones!!!09:15
LuNaTiK^GuYi really want to...but can't see myself switching to Linux full-time.....i never manage to get anything to work :(09:15
SeveasBollocksMacenzie, yes09:15
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BollocksMacenzieSeveas: Cheers!09:16
LuNaTiK^GuYi'm so stupid i think lol09:16
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everett_LuNaTiK^GuY, it takes time to understand and get the hang of. It took me years to get comfortable using.09:16
rose_oh my god09:16
Kamzihyphenated: i was really looking for internal, though trial and error has shown me that an external would probably easier09:16
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LuNaTiK^GuYbut i dont have years :(09:16
everett_:(09:16
everett_Cancer?09:16
LuNaTiK^GuYdont get me wrong09:16
everett_:D09:16
LuNaTiK^GuYUbuntu is the best i've tried09:16
LuNaTiK^GuYfrom all the rest09:16
Kamzihyphenated: i suppose us robotics would be ideal ?09:17
LuNaTiK^GuYi went further with it than i did with others09:17
LuNaTiK^GuYbut not as half as far as with Windows09:17
blacktoothback to windows then?09:17
LuNaTiK^GuYi admit i've been using Win for YEARSSSS09:17
everett_pfft.09:17
Centaurblacktooth: ubuntu knows the printer is there09:17
LuNaTiK^GuYi dont want to go back09:17
kutucapewhat's the meaning firefox is broken?09:17
LuNaTiK^GuYi want to learn this!! :S09:17
nophixLuNaTiK^GuY: why?09:17
everett_What is your current problem?09:17
klaymlunatik^guy: just out of curiosity, what's your age?09:17
wing`anyone can help me with my problem? ->>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=267217#post26721709:17
LuNaTiK^GuY1909:17
klaymok09:17
epright, no time left09:18
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LuNaTiK^GuYi need it for my Univ course!!09:18
everett_I tell ya he's got cancer. :D09:18
LuNaTiK^GuYrite here and now :)09:18
hyphenatedKamzi: I had zero problems and zero inconvenience when i had to use a serial modem. internal ones, on the other hand.. gosh, it never ended09:18
blacktoothdoes open office know the printer is there!!!?09:18
Seveaseverett_, language....09:18
SeveasLuNaTiK^GuY, go to tldp.org and read some beginners docs09:18
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Centaurblacktooth: No it doesn't, I just checked to see that firefox knows it's there09:18
SeveasLuNaTiK^GuY, browsing through the wiki helps too09:18
everett_errr, language? o.O Whjat did I say?09:18
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Seveasyour last line...09:19
blacktoothdoes firefox know it is there!!!!09:19
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ompauleverett_, be nice to people that is all :) it is a lot easier09:19
blacktootha question or a fact?09:19
DekaPinkLet's hear it for accidentally uninstalling xchat. xD09:19
Centaurblacktooth: Yes, firefox can see the printer, openoffice does not09:19
klaymlunatik^guy: it's as simple as this: you download (or order!) a Ubuntu install cd, you stick it in and push the enter key in order to install it.09:19
Se7hquestion: isnt OSS enable by default?09:19
everett_Oh. Well it was meant as a friendly joke. :/09:19
SeveasSe7h, oss is ddeprecated....09:19
Seveaseverett_, sorry, i see it now09:20
Seveaseverett_, i missed a part09:20
wing`anyone can help me with my problem? ->>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=267217#post26721709:20
klaymand then you take a guide and install all programs you need, codecs etc09:20
LuNaTiK^GuYklaym....i did that.....first thing that happened was Nvidia got loaded badly...so i had to go in console...edit the xorg.conf etc etc09:20
everett_Lun, if it is a university course, it should be very basic.09:20
Se7hSeveas ye, but i need it09:20
blacktoothopen office is the culprit...if ubuntu sees it and office does not...pretty obvious!!!09:20
LuNaTiK^GuYIn windows....u just log on...and install the driver from cd and its all fine :S09:20
kutucapewing`, it's firewall problem09:20
everett_Unless itis an advanced class.09:20
SeveasSe7h, why..?09:20
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Se7hSeveas pymedia09:20
LuNaTiK^GuYthat's the problem lol09:20
wing`kutucape, the only firewall im using is firestarter to share the connection09:21
Centaurblacktooth: yes, I understand that but I was wondering how I can fix that09:21
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wing`kutucape, and its configured to allow 192.168.0.254 (my other pc ip)09:21
kutucapecan you access the internet from winXP?09:21
blacktoothmore people here more qualified than i am....sorry!!!???09:21
wing`i can ping IP address09:21
Se7hSeveas so, is it?09:21
wing`and thats all09:21
everett_Lu, linux isn't completely developed yet, I started using it six years ago, ubuntu was a god send compared to what I was used to. As you use linux, it will become more friendly. :D09:21
blacktoothbeen struggling with ubuntu all day at college!!!09:22
SeveasSe7h, it's not enabled by default afaik. and esd hogs /dev/dsp anyway09:22
wing`kutucape, ?09:22
eplinux is a programmers dream actually stuff may be harder to learn but its easier to use!   We forget that we have had a lot of investment time-wise learning windows as well.09:22
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LuNaTiK^GuYeverett_, thats ok....i can appreciate the open source effort being put in it...just when will Linux be developed completely?09:22
LuNaTiK^GuY:)09:22
kutucapeso try to use nslookup on windows command prompt09:22
kutucapeex: nslookup google.com09:22
bur[n] erLuNaTiK^GuY: hopefully it never dies!09:22
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bur[n] er:)09:22
Centaurblacktooth: Okay, thanks though09:23
LuNaTiK^GuYi dont want it to die09:23
bur[n] ercomplete09:23
klaymlunatic^guy: I solve my Ubuntu problems with these manners: 1. type in Google/Ubuntuforums search the error I get, it might be found and fixed on a forum already, 2. come ask here, or 3. post a new thread about it on ubuntuforums09:23
bur[n] ersounds dead ;)09:23
everett_When project looking glass is ported. :D09:23
Se7hSeveas come again?09:23
Se7h(im noob on cfgs09:23
blacktoothno swet sorry i could not help.09:23
LuNaTiK^GuYi want it to be a 100% desktop contender that kick windows's ass...i know u say it DOES ALREADY....but for a noob it doesnt ;)09:23
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LuNaTiK^GuYlol09:23
Kamzilol09:23
wing`kutucape, it says DNS Timed out, but it finds a IP Address..09:23
bur[n] erLuNaTiK^GuY: use it for awhile, find bugs, patch them, make ubuntu better :)09:23
Kamzilinux wasn't made for noobs09:23
SeveasSe7h, in short: try to find a replacement for pymedia because using oss will give you problems09:24
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MrGardenHoseManlinux runs on a FAT filesystem right?09:24
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everett_Linux will never be fully developed, linux will develop the user, grasshopper.09:24
SeveasMrGardenHoseMan, no09:24
LuNaTiK^GuYbur[n] er, how do u expect me to patch it?????09:24
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SeveasMrGardenHoseMan, linux runs on GOOD filesystems, no fat crap09:24
Se7hSeveas problem is, cant find any09:24
bur[n] erMrGardenHoseMan: it can mount and read/write fat32, but not be installed on it09:24
Hyumahi to all09:24
blacktoothlol!!!09:24
SeveasSe7h, what is pymedia?09:24
blacktoothlo09:24
Hyumahow to use md5sums guys?09:24
bur[n] erLuNaTiK^GuY: ok, we'll start small, just use it for a bit ;)09:24
HyumaI've launch09:24
Hyumamd5sum.exe file.md5 file.iso09:24
LuNaTiK^GuYKamzi, so ur telling me to go back to Win? :(09:24
MrGardenHoseManahh as long as it can write to it09:24
LuNaTiK^GuY(sniff)09:24
wing`kutucape, ?09:24
bur[n] erpymedia == python & gstreamer?09:24
Se7hSeveas a python module for audio/video encoding/decoding09:24
nophixbur[n] er: of course it can, but that's just stupid :)09:25
kutucapewing`, tell me your /etc/resolv.conf content09:25
SeveasSe7h, pymusique ..?09:25
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Se7ho.009:25
bur[n] erMrGardenHoseMan: i rebuttle, you may install it on fat32, but it's silly ;)09:25
kutucaperesolv.conf must point to some dns server out there09:25
wing`search domain.invalid09:25
wing`nameserver 192.168.254.25409:25
wing`192.168.254.254 is my router ip address09:25
bur[n] erwindows can read & write ext2/3 just fine though09:25
Seveasbur[n] er, you cannot install ubuntu on fat...09:26
klaymLunatik^guy: do as I said and be specific about the error you get (write it on a piece of paper if you can't paste it right away on a pastebin) and ask about it on forums or here, and you will solve all problems. it asks for a lot of patience09:26
qt2this is very strange09:26
qt2my other ubuntu box...09:26
blacktoothwith 3rd party software!!!09:26
kutucapetry to add another dns server ip's09:26
qt2like... evrything randomly crashes.09:26
qt2EVERYTHING09:26
Se7hSeveas thats for itunes09:26
qt2even x drops out and reboots sometimes.09:26
ompaulwing`, what is the default route on the windows box? (ug I said the w word :))09:26
SeveasSe7h, ah...09:26
bur[n] erwell, i was right then... regardless if you can or not, fat sucks09:26
qt2stops just short of the kernel.09:26
Seveasqt2, which version of Ubuntu?09:26
cikilinhow i check if i have a router/firewall and then if i have port ...UDP open?09:26
LuNaTiK^GuYok....i want a PowerDVD substitute...i was told it mplayer...yet i cant get my 2nd dvd drive to work on it09:26
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qt2Seveas, Hoary.09:26
wing`ompaul, sry, but how do i know that?09:27
bur[n] erompaul: different on different networks09:27
mebaran151oh09:27
mebaran151LuNaTiK^GuY, easy to fix09:27
mebaran151you just have to specify your dvd-device09:27
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LuNaTiK^GuYmebaran151, i'm all ears :)09:27
LuNaTiK^GuYhow?09:27
mebaran151-dvd-device /dev/hdb09:27
wing`kutucape, i changed it to an DNS server ip, i need to restart something now?09:27
mebaran151at the cli09:27
ompaulbur[n] er, it is something I remember having to set in  a place I was working eariler this year09:27
bur[n] erompaul: could be 192.168.1.1 192.168.0.1 192.168.2.1 10.0.0.1 or some other set09:27
mebaran151then you just do09:27
cikilincan anybody use azureus?09:27
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bur[n] ercikilin: sure09:28
kutucapenope, just type on your console (linux) say: dig google.com09:28
blacktoothyes!09:28
cikilinso how i check if i have a router/firewall and then if i have port ...UDP open?09:28
HappyFooltritium: do you have any extensions?09:28
mebaran151tritium, hint download09:28
ompaulbur[n] er, no if I understand the issue wing` is routing via the linux machine, wing` am I right?09:28
mebaran151mine wont download anyting any more09:28
kutucapethen try on winXP box with nslookup command09:28
wing`yea09:28
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wing`my Router modem is connect to eth0 here in linux09:28
cikilinburn[n] er?09:28
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wing`and eth1 is connected to windows09:28
kutucapedid you set the gateway on winxp box to linux box ip?09:28
everett_Weird.09:28
tritiumHappyFool, no09:28
LuNaTiK^GuYmebaran151, -dvd-device /dev/hdb??? why hdb????09:28
wing`its all set by DHCP (Auto in windows)09:29
wing`and its working09:29
tritiummebaran151, it's an ubuntu package, not a download09:29
HappyFooltritium: there's a thread about this on ubuntuforums -- it looks like ppl without problems generally don't have extensions installed09:29
wing`expect the dns09:29
everett_Apt-get says a it can't find a package I tell it to install but it's there in the directory.09:29
cikilinburn[n] er can u tell me how to check?09:29
mebaran151LuNaTiK^GuY, because I am guesing hda is your first drive09:29
tritiumHappyFool, ah, thanks.  Not that it's a problem to not have problems ;)09:29
wing`only the dns is not working09:29
mebaran151or else it might hdc or hdd09:29
mebaran151do you have other ide drives installed with scsi09:29
kutucapewing`, yes, try to make static ip for winXP box09:29
LuNaTiK^GuYmebaran151, its my DVD drive....dvd-rom/cd-rom09:29
mebaran151or IDE ATA09:29
mebaran151yeah09:29
mebaran151but what else is in yoru computer09:29
mebaran151harddisk09:30
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LuNaTiK^GuYone hard drive with lots of partitions09:30
wing`ok, but what ip and gateway?09:30
LuNaTiK^GuYand 2 optical drives09:30
cikilinhow i check if i have a router/firewall and then if i have port ...UDP open on azureus pls09:30
LuNaTiK^GuYa dvd rewriter09:30
Kamziany one here a uk ubuntu user ?09:30
LuNaTiK^GuYand a dvd rom09:30
blacktoothyea...for what it is worth!09:30
wing`kutucape,  what ip and gateway do i put there?09:31
mebaran151LuNaTiK^GuY, what kind of harddrive09:31
LuNaTiK^GuYi did /dev/cdrom1....and it seems to be reading it...but i get no picture...and cpu is on 100% lOAD!!!09:31
LuNaTiK^GuYATA-133 hard drive09:31
mebaran151ok09:32
mebaran151it is probably hdc09:32
mebaran151hda is the harddrive09:32
mebaran151hdb is probably the second drive09:32
mebaran151(your first optical)09:32
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mebaran151and your third drive second optical should be hdc09:32
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Seveasmebaran151, depends completely on the wiring09:32
mebaran151yeah09:32
mebaran151I am guessing he didnt build it himself09:32
mebaran151though09:32
mebaran151and most places set it up as such09:32
Seveasprimary master = hda primary slave = hdb secondary master = hdc seecondary slave = hdd09:32
HappyFoolhmm - anyone know how i get '-rootwin' to work in mplayer?09:32
ray_what do you  guys use for playing mp3's?09:33
mebaran151mplayer for EVERYTHING09:33
Seveasbeep-media-player09:33
mebaran151yeah beep media player is nice09:33
binaray_ xmms09:33
blacktoothwmp10....lol!!!09:33
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Seveas /kick blacktooth09:33
LuNaTiK^GuYmebaran151,  hdc wont work09:33
Seveas:)09:33
ray_beep media is like the same thing as xmms right?09:33
blacktoothsarcasm...lol!!!!!09:33
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Seveasray_, it's a gtk2 port (thus better lookig_ port of xmms09:34
LuNaTiK^GuYcdrom1 got my drive spinning....but my CPU fired up to 100% and mplayer just gave me a black screen09:34
anatolewmp10? where?09:34
ray_Seveas, is it in universe?09:34
Seveasray_, yes09:34
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DekaPinkIs there any easy way to uninstall all the stuff kde needed to install when I got it with apt-get? :309:34
ray_Seveas, thanks09:34
Rockrethello all09:34
Seveasand there is a nice Ubuntu skin on http://ubuntu-nl.org/files/4Humans.tgz09:34
mebaran151LuNaTiK^GuY, what is cdrom109:35
highvoltageDekaPink: apt-get remove stuff09:35
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LuNaTiK^GuYcdrom1 i tihnk is my second dvd-rom09:35
mebaran151you passed /dev/cdrom109:35
DekaPinkhighvoltage: I know that much... Just... that's alot of stuff to remove, I was hoping there was a way to do it all at once.09:35
mebaran151did you pass it as dvd-device09:35
LuNaTiK^GuYyes i did09:35
LuNaTiK^GuYyes09:35
mebaran151let me do a quick test09:35
mebaran151using my Cowboy Bebop dvd I just got09:36
LuNaTiK^GuYtyt09:36
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ray_oooo much nicer than xmms.....ist there more skins?09:36
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mebaran151ray_, you can dll them .. but they arent pkged ... yet09:36
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qt2Seveas, any ideas?09:37
Seveasqt2,  i think your memory has gone bad09:37
ray_mebaran151, you dont know where offhand do you?09:37
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Seveasrun memtest86 (from the boot menu)09:37
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mebaran151not really09:38
mebaran151hmm09:38
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everett_Okay, I'm compiling my 2.6 kernel with the same .config that was in boot using make. What is the next step? make install?09:38
mebaran151doesnt' mplayer work with AC3?09:38
Seveasyou can use xmms skins on beep...09:38
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ray_mebaran151, dont worry i will find them09:38
LuNaTiK^GuYmebaran151, did it work?09:39
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mebaran151yeha it opened09:39
tritiumeverett_, I'd encourage you to build a kernel .deb package with the "make-kpkg" tool after installing the package "kernel-package"09:39
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everett_well I'm already running make, can I run make-kpkg after I'ved maked the /usr/src/linux ?09:40
bartekplease help how instal ati driver in the ubuntu09:40
LuNaTiK^GuYmebaran151, so wot can i do?09:40
mebaran151hmm works on mine09:41
mebaran1510 percent cpu usage09:41
mebaran151did you compile mplayer yourself09:41
LuNaTiK^GuYno09:41
mebaran151it is usually better to do it that way09:41
HappyFool!fglrx09:41
mebaran151do it that way09:41
ubotuwell, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:41
mebaran151so you can use FLGRX09:42
qt2Seveas, how long should i let this run fo?09:42
LuNaTiK^GuYi miss good old PowerDVD for these reasons lol09:42
HappyFoolbartek: read the binaryhowto page ubotu posted09:42
Seveasqt2, at least an hour09:42
qt2alrighty.09:42
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LuNaTiK^GuYhow can i uninstall mplayer?09:43
hybrid_gothapt-get remove mplayer09:43
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hybrid_gothLuNaTiK^GuY: but sudo it09:43
klaymlunatik^guy: use synaptic to remove programs09:43
tritiumand use the full package name09:43
mebaran151has anyone written a DTS decoder for mplayer yet?09:44
hybrid_gothdts?09:44
hybrid_gothtritium: srry  i would say mplayer blah but it is mplayer-g4 here and idk the x86 equal09:45
tritiumhybrid_goth, no worries at all, buddy09:45
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mebaran151hybrid_goth, mplayer-386 I think09:45
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mebaran151or mplayer 68609:45
stian__how do i extract .tar.bz2?09:45
hybrid_gothah ty09:45
mebaran151tar xjvf09:45
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ray_rock lobster!09:46
hybrid_gothmebaran151: darnit beat me to the tar question =P09:46
Rockretdoes anyone knows if ubuntu have support (driver hotplug) to webcam creative go plus ?09:46
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ray_stian__, file roller09:46
surfdueim a frosted weat cake09:46
surfdueoh sorry wront channel09:46
londonboi2k3Hi guys, im trying to connect to my linux box from windows with smb but it keeps asking me for a password! Anyone here got exp with samba would like some help please ;)09:46
Rockretwhat version of gnome that came with ubuntu 5.04?09:47
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ray_2.10 i think09:47
Triffid_Hunterlondonboi2k3: it'll ask for a password unless you set the security to user, and add some anonymous shares09:47
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kbrooksRockret: 2.1009:47
taromaruhiya09:47
Rockretkbrooks, thanks09:47
Seveaslondonboi2k3, use smbpasswd to set one (on the ubuntu box)09:47
hybrid_gothlondonboi2k3: do you want to connect from or to the linux box09:47
surfdueCchow do u copy in xchat?09:47
ray_is there a newer version than 2.1009:47
taromaruselect and ctrl+c09:47
londonboi2k3Seveas thanks09:47
Rockret2.12 ?09:48
londonboi2k3hybrid_goth from windows09:48
hybrid_gothsurfdue: highlight and ctrl c09:48
brummieneed help, got no sound.09:48
mm23Hi: I have a problem with perl. For some reason, I can't build ANY modules with perl (I apt-getted it..) because the Build module does not come with perl09:48
taromarudoes somebody succesfully configured advancemame with svgalib in ubuntu?09:48
surfduei like pie09:48
surfdue;|09:48
Rockretwhat is big diference bewteen debian 3.1 and ubuntu 5.04 ?09:48
ray_brummie, ok.....i know what u have to do09:48
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surfdueis tehre  aprogram for ubuntu09:48
mm23which is odd, because every other distro I have ever used has always had the build module come with Perl as default, along with a lot of others09:48
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Rockretmore friendly ?09:48
_andreahey its me again on KDE :)09:48
taromarubrummie you dont have sound or you can only listen to one sound source?09:48
hybrid_gothRockret: debian is newer09:48
mm23I don't know why I don't have it, nor do I know how to get it09:48
brummieno sound09:48
LuNaTiK^GuYme again :)09:48
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londonboi2k3with smbpassd i get Failed to find entry for user aaron09:49
brummiefirst time user btw09:49
LuNaTiK^GuYi'll think i'll keep on kubutnu :)09:49
Belutzis there already an update for firefox and thunderbird?09:49
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Seveaslondonboi2k3, smb users must be system users...09:49
kbrookssurfdue: for what?09:49
LuNaTiK^GuYmore windows like for a noob like me ;)09:49
ray_brummie, u need the newer version of alsa i bet09:49
surfdueum 4 speak reconization09:49
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surfduedoes anyone here like windows?09:49
kbrookssurfdue: why?09:49
brummiethe harware is not new09:49
surfdueim just wondering09:49
londonboi2k3hmm, i am a little lost now :(09:49
taromarutake a look at the minislack project wiki, there you can see howto set up sound manually09:49
ray_brummie, what soundcard u got?09:50
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ray_i dont like windows09:50
mm23has anyone else had this problem with perl or know how to fix it? For some reason, I can't build ANY modules with perl (I apt-getted it..) because the Module::Build module does not come with perl from apt-get09:50
taromaruman alsaconf?09:50
surfduedoes anyone here like windows?09:50
brummiecmi media 5.1 thing but showing as via 8233a09:50
surfdueanswer me!!! :(09:50
mm23does anyone know what package I need to apt-get or what?09:50
londonboi2k3Seveas, can you help me do this from the command line if possible as im on my windows box, and ssh'd in to my linux box09:50
ray_I ANSWERED U09:50
kbrookssurfdue: i dont like windows09:50
surfdueu all are evil09:50
tritiumsurfdue, please don't demand like that09:50
ray_brummie, are you listening to me09:50
brummieyes :D09:51
kbrooksray_: prefix with nick next time pls09:51
ray_kbrooks, what?09:51
everett_surf, please come back when you are grown up.09:51
surfdueray_,  kbrooks is allitle insane09:51
surfdueif u know what i mean k09:51
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kbrookssurfdue: i'm not09:51
ray_surfdue, u like windows?09:51
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blacktootheverybody likes windows...don't they?09:52
mm23so nobody knows why Ubuntu's perl doesn't ship with Module::Build so nothing, not even cpan can build any modules?09:52
kbrooksray_: use: nick: text09:52
mm23or know where I can get it?09:52
highvoltagesurfdue: making trouble in #ubuntu now ;)09:52
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londonboi2k3any help at all guys with samba?09:52
ray_kbrooks, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:52
kbrooksomigosh09:52
tritiumray_, don't talk that way please09:52
hybrid_gothray: calm down plz09:52
Seveasray_, language.....09:52
hybrid_goth!code of conduct09:53
ubotuhybrid_goth: I give up, what is it?09:53
kbrooks!coc09:53
ubotuI heard coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/09:53
hybrid_goth!coc09:53
ray_tell kbrooks faggot to calmdown09:53
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mm23I guess you guys are too focused on your internal little fights to help anyone :o09:53
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teprrruhh, are you serious that there's no aclocal in ubuntu?09:53
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hybrid_gothmm23: we dont know everything09:53
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blacktoothalcohol!!!!!????09:53
hybrid_goth!hybrid_goth09:53
ubotuwell, hybrid_goth is a wonderfull person deserving of great riches and money09:53
keikozwhat is better ? ext3 or reiserfs bye your opinions ?09:53
kbrooksmm23: we dont know everything09:54
desrtteprrr; aclocal is part of autoconf09:54
kbrooks!kbrooks09:54
ubotukbrooks: Wish i knew09:54
taromaruso...09:54
HappyFoolteprrr: what's aclocal again?09:54
hybrid_gothkeikoz: i like ext309:54
taromarusome help setting up svgalib properly?09:54
teprrrdesrt, hmm. oh.09:54
highvoltagekeikoz: if you're generally unsure, use ext309:54
desrtteprrr; install the corresponding autoconf version09:54
kbrookstaromaru: ask09:54
teprrrdesrt, I don't have it and I have autoconf installed..09:54
keikozbut the ext3 needs an initrd on boot using grub09:54
everett_keikoz, I prefer reiserfs, it has distinct performance gains when dealing with smaller files.09:54
kbrooksteprrr: build-essential09:54
desrtteprrr; you probably have something like aclocal-1.9 or -1.4 or something09:54
everett_ext3 is also old. :D09:55
kbrookseverett_: *discards*09:55
keikozi'd like a fs that doesnt need initrd09:55
hybrid_gothkeikoz: ext3 is more n00b friendly09:55
teprrrHappyFool, don't know actually. it has something to do with kde's build system :p09:55
blacktoothbut it works.09:55
kbrookseverett_: no trolling please09:55
desrtteprrr; you can use update-alternatives to symlink one of them to 'aclocal'09:55
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teprrrdesrt, ah. okay09:55
keikozok, thx for giving your opinions :o)09:55
everett_trollng? How so? I was just stating my preference and why it was indeed my preference.09:55
hybrid_gothkeikoz: best of luck09:56
creasyhello, can anyone help me with instalation of ubuntu ? :(09:56
taromaruwhich package installs svgalib?09:56
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ed1tcreasy, wat part?09:56
everett_creasy, what is the problem?09:56
hybrid_gothcreasy: ask dont ask to ask09:56
taromaruI read svgalib required to link manually each application to svgalib09:56
creasy:) i have problem with my network09:56
taromarubut I obviously dont know how to do that09:56
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ed1tcreasy, wat is it?09:56
kbrookstaromaru: you dont have to09:56
tritiumtaromaru, "apt-cache search svgalib" will help you find it09:56
taromarui already did that09:57
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creasyinstalation cant see my network card09:57
HappyFooltaromaru: you possibly need libsvga1-dev09:57
kbrookstaromaru: install svgalib09:57
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teprrrdesrt, hmm. it's not available from ubuntu repos though?09:57
everett_creasy, try using the command lspci and tell me what you see.09:57
creasyand becouse of that it cant continue to instal basic system09:57
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DPadclearHow do I build a quick .deb file if I have nss-mdns_0.5-1.diff.gz  nss-mdns_0.5-1.dsc  nss-mdns_0.5.orig.tar.gz09:58
desrtteprrr; yes.  it is.09:58
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teprrrdesrt, ah. forget. installing automake worked :p09:58
keikozdo is it possible to change the fs of a partition, leaving there the datas ?09:58
musicman2059Keikoz: AFAIK no09:58
keikozi guessed the answer :p09:58
creasyeverett_ .. im real noob to all of this but i realy want to learn, but just dont know how :/09:58
desrtteprrr; automake depends on autoconf :)09:58
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musicman2059to change the fs would require a format :P09:58
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blacktoothwill destroy all data!!!09:59
everett_creasy, your problem isn't caused by your lack of experince, it is probably an issue with your network card. What type is it?09:59
keikozi did hope some strange soft09:59
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everett_Do you know?09:59
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creasyone sec.09:59
azambujahi09:59
hybrid_gothbut you could partition with diff fs then get files and delete first partition09:59
teprrrdesrt, ya, thanks a lot :)09:59
azambujawhere can i found the guide to play encrypted dvds?09:59
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keikozhybrid_goth that's what i will make i guess09:59
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keikozand is possible to transfer an entire linux systeme from a partition to another (changing its fstab) without pbl ?10:00
HappyFool!restricted10:00
keikoz(i know, i ask a lot)10:00
ubotuit has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:00
LuNaTiK^GuYmy second dvd drive is /dev/hdd :) :) :) :) its workinggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg10:00
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HappyFoolazambuja: go to the url that ubotu just mentioned10:00
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mebaran151LuNaTiK^GuY, good10:00
ailleantsianI was wondering if someone here cau help me with my sound drivers for ubuntu10:00
LuNaTiK^GuYi'm switchin to KDE10:00
LuNaTiK^GuYkonquror is so much better at giving details :)10:01
azambujaubotu: thanks10:01
ubotubitte, azambuja10:01
azambujaHappyFool: thanks10:01
LuNaTiK^GuYnow Ubuntu is kicking ass :)10:01
blacktoothit's workinggggggggggg....lol!!!!10:01
musicman2059I'm switchin to XFCE once I get libgtk2-devel10:01
musicman2059w00t10:01
creasyeverett_ can we go on priv ?10:01
blacktoothnice!!!10:01
Razor-X!java10:01
ubotuI guess java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.10:01
MrGardenHoseManwhat do i use to display .nfo files?10:02
Razor-XMrGardenHoseMan: a text editor10:02
azambujait tells me to install libdvdcss2, which i cant find in synaptic10:02
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blacktoothnon-free!????10:03
HappyFoolazambuja: it also tells you you need to add extra repositories, at the top somewhere10:03
azambujaHappyFool: they are added10:03
azambujaHappyFool: multiverse universe?10:03
azambujaHappyFool: all of them10:03
HappyFoolazambuja: no, backports hoary-extras, i think10:03
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flipyHi!10:04
flipyAfter setting up the apache and finally php, I'm trying to configure drupal10:04
azambujaHappyFool: lets try10:04
[loonz] what's the problem with firefox?10:04
flipyI've done the testphp.php to try phpinfo()10:04
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flipybut drupal won't execute, the web browser tries to download the file instead of running it10:05
rachohi10:05
[loonz] when are going to have the ubuntu users the last version of Firefox?10:05
azambujaHappyFool: NOT_AUTENTICATED but lets go :-)10:05
HappyFoolazambuja: heh10:05
everett_creasy here isn't getting the driver for his EtherExpressPro/100 (eepro100, original Becker driver) loaded on install time, any ideas?10:05
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HappyFoolazambuja: i actually used marillat's libdvdcss2 before that got all out of sync with ubuntu, but i think backport's ought to work10:06
azambujaHappyFool: totem is auto-playing it10:07
azambujaHappyFool: lets see10:07
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HappyFoolazambuja: fwiw i use xine; i think bog-standard totem seems to not be recommended. i think ppl use totem-xine, gmplayer or vlc, usually10:08
ailleantsiancan anyone recommend where i can go to get help on my sound drivers10:08
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nvidiaroxhi, how do i install nvidia drivers?10:10
Super_BQany Samba users that managed to get it work right with Firestarter ?10:10
nvidiaroxi just installed ubuntbu, how do i setup nvidia with it?10:10
Razor-Xsomeone _seriously_ needs to fork the Azureus project10:10
tritiumnvidiarox, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:10
Burgundavianvidiarox, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:10
robotgeeksorry to ask again, but is FFox 1.0.6 also broken? I upgraded it on my Windows boxen in the lab just today10:10
robotgeekthough it has nothing to do with ubuntu :)10:10
Super_BQdespite how it says you can allowed SMB port 137-138 under the incoming policies10:11
Razor-Xafter decentralization, it takes more than my 256 MB of RAM can handle10:11
poningrunvidiarox: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/Official_nVidia10:11
poningruor what they said10:11
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poningruanyone know why totem is used as the default player?10:11
poningruits sucks so much10:11
DekaPinkOh, there we go... apt-get remove kde*10:11
desrtponingru; actually, it doesn't10:11
poningruwhy not vlc or something?10:11
wezzer-use mplayer10:11
desrtponingru; apt-get install totem-xine10:11
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Super_BQI know it's firestarter causing the block because samba works perfect when I disable the firewall - so I have the shares done right10:11
poningrudesrt: I know10:12
liquidtenponingru: because totem supports many many more file types than vlc10:12
Dr_MelectausIm haveing a few problems gnome bittorrent, when i open it the choose torrent to open appears, but once i choose a torrent the window dissapears and nothing else happens. Ive tried reinstalling it but not sure if i done it righ10:12
poningruliquidten: please give example10:12
jasoncohenwhat's wrong with firefox 1.0.6? As long as you upgrade your extensions it's fine? are there certain extensions causing problems. i have 1.0.6 with extended preferences 1.2.7.110:12
Dr_Melectaus**correctly10:12
nvidiaroxshould i use offical nvidia drivers or the unbutbu ones?10:12
everett_ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH10:12
jasoncohenand is ubuntu's firefox having the same issues as 1.0.6?10:12
samui never managed to play anything in totem10:12
poningruand which cannot be solved by adding those libs10:12
everett_I am never compiling using a .config from a binary file again....10:12
everett_I'm being drowned in useless modules10:12
poningruI bet you half of these people do not use totem10:13
tritiumnvidiarox, the ubuntu ones please10:13
nvidiaroxk10:13
poningruhow about making totem-xine or vlc the default10:13
Dr_MelectausIm haveing a few problems gnome bittorrent, when i open it the choose torrent to open appears, but once i choose a torrent the window dissapears and nothing else happens. Ive tried reinstalling it but not sure if i done it correctly10:13
everett_xine/mplayer all te way10:13
JeandreThe Ubuntu update manager reports "W: GPG error"s "signatures were invalid: BADSIG". Am I doing something wrong, or is there a problem with security.ubuntu.com ?10:13
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djpponingru: i do!10:13
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poningrudjp: ?10:14
everett_Dr, try opening it in a terminal to see if there is error output.10:14
Dr_Melectausthanks everett_10:14
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djpponingru: use totem!10:14
Super_BQany Samba users that managed to get it work right with Firestarter (firewall)10:14
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poningrudjp: I am not getting into a zealot wars10:14
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poningruall I am saying is that compared to other players totem seems choppy10:15
jasoncohenponingru, there's discussion of making totem-xine the default in breezy10:15
jasoncoheni think it would be a very good idea10:15
poningruoh ok10:15
robotgeekponingru, true :)10:15
liquidtenmplayer doesn't support DVD menus so i rarely use that, but xine does, but xine takes too long to start up where totem-xine will startup in 2 seconds.   Totem-gstreamer just sucks10:15
Dr_Melectaus everett_  melectaus@ubuntu:~$ open gnome bittorrent10:15
Dr_MelectausCouldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console10:15
Dr_MelectausCould not get a file descriptor referring to the console10:15
HappyFoolSuper_BQ: have you tried using netstat -lnpt and netstat -lnpu to find out which ports samba is listening on?10:15
everett_O.o10:15
anacrono.O10:16
everett_not a (&*^(@&% clue what that is about.10:16
samutotem sucks10:16
HappyFoolSuper_BQ: according to /etc/services, you'll need at least 137, 138 and 139 open (tcp and udp)10:16
Dr_Melectausto run it in terminal, it is open <file>10:16
poningruDr_Melectaus: what do you open a torrent file in?10:16
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djponce gstreamer comes on i think things will improve. that is why i think it is the default player and not the xine version. gstreamer will be a good asset in the future10:16
poningruwhat browser I mean10:16
HappyFoolSuper_BQ: and 445 (tcp and udp)10:16
Dr_Melectausponingru, i open it with gnome bitttorrent10:16
liquidtengstreamer is too cpu intensive for me10:16
Super_BQHappyFool: how do I enable port 445?10:16
Dr_Melectaus- 1t10:16
HappyFoolSuper_BQ: um. doesn't firestarter let you open specific ports?10:17
Super_BQHappyFool: firewall only allows me to like add (policies) for SMB default ports10:17
poningruno I mean what executable do you open?10:17
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poningrudo you open the -bin file or the sh file?10:17
everett_drivers/isdn/capi/capidrv.c:2108:10: warning: #warning FIXME: maybe a race condition the card should be removed here from global list /kkeil, hahaha, I love kernel output. :D10:17
Super_BQHappyFool: only shows port 137-139 that I can allow10:17
Super_BQHappyFool: incoming (LAN)10:17
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HappyFoolSuper_BQ: i don't know firestarter, or firewalls generally, sorry10:18
Dr_Melectauspoing, ill just check10:18
HappyFoolSuper_BQ: isn't there a 'custom' option somewhere?10:18
Super_BQHappyFool: when I try to connect - the events show the UDP port 137 is blocked10:18
everett_Super, try emailing / contacting the company/developer too.10:18
everett_It should be in their documents.10:18
Dr_Melectausponingru,  .torrent10:18
jasoncohenSuper_BQ, what's the problem. i use firestarter10:18
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djpDr_Melectaus: do you normally open it via firefox? i.e., click on a torrent link and then use the default app to download it?10:18
Super_BQi've googled and apparently there's tons of people with the same problem but no real simple fix10:18
HappyFoolSuper_BQ: so allow 137? or are you?10:18
Super_BQjasoncohen: how did you configure for samba?10:19
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icebreakhi10:19
HappyFoolSuper_BQ: maybe you need to set the firewall manually using iptables -- i don't know much about that though, sorry10:19
jasoncohenSuper_BQ, you need to open port 137-139 on the samba server10:19
Dr_Melectausdjp, i go to apps>interweb>gnome bittorrent10:19
icebreaki just installed ubuntu, and i work in refresh 60hz10:19
Super_BQHappyFool: even when I right click on the block message to allow it - it still comes up with the same problem10:19
icebreakhow can i turn it to 100 ?10:19
icebreak?10:19
HappyFoolSuper_BQ: hmm. do you really need a firewall? what other services are you running?10:19
Super_BQjasoncohen: but the samba server works fine when I stop the firestarter firewall10:19
jasoncohenSuper_BQ, go to policy, right click, choose add rule, then select name and choose samba10:19
jasoncohenthat should show 137-139 44510:20
Super_BQHappyFool: ssh, ftp, http seem to work fine10:20
jasoncohenhit add and then hit apply10:20
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jasoncohenapply policy10:20
jasoncohenotherwise it won't take affect10:20
djpDr_Melectaus: ok. reason i ask, is i always go via a torrent link and open it via firefox. unfortunately this no longer works with the latest security update for ff... :(10:20
icebreakcan anybody help me with refresh rate?10:20
Super_BQjasoncohen: OH so I just manuall ADD 445 ?10:20
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jdorseman.. my firefox has suddenly started seg faulting today10:20
jasoncohenSuper_BQ, no...445 is there10:21
Dr_Melectausok thanks dj2810:21
Dr_Melectausdjp10:21
Dr_Melectaus*^10:21
Super_BQjasoncohen: when I add it only shows 137-13910:21
jdorselike usualy when I close a second tab10:21
jasoncohenSuper_BQ, when you click on the drop down name menu and choose Samba (SMB) don't you see 137-139 44510:21
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liquidtenfirefox is broken right now  i think now would actually be the perfect time to use the Deer Park Alpha 2 build10:21
jasoncohenSuper_BQ, add 44510:21
jasoncohenthen hit add and apply policy10:21
everett_OMFG WILL THIS KERNEL EVERFINISH COMPILING.10:21
jasoncohenSuper_BQ, i'm using firestarter 1.0.3 from backports so it might be a bit different10:21
kbrookseverett_: calm10:21
jdorsecan I revert back to the previous firefox?10:21
everett_At this rate I am going to miss SG-1.10:22
icebreakcan anybody help me with installing nviia drivers?10:22
everett_That, will be not be acceptable.10:22
jasoncohenjdorse, upgrade your extensions or remove them10:22
everett_!nvidia10:22
jasoncohenextensions are causing the issue10:22
ubotunvidia is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto10:22
kbrookseverett_: it is not the end of the world10:22
everett_blasphemy.10:22
jdorsejasoncohen, I've had it do it without any extensions10:22
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jasoncohenjdorse, tools > extensions > upgrade10:22
everett_;D10:22
jasoncohenjdorse, really...10:22
jdorsethere is no such button10:22
jasoncohenjdorse, are you using ubuntu's firefox or backports?10:23
jdorseubuntu10:23
djpjdorse: yes you can revert10:23
Super_BQjasoncohen: I only could add a separate entry of SMB with 44510:23
jasoncohenjdorse, do you hae any extensions there?10:23
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jasoncohenSuper_BQ, that's fine10:23
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icebreakwhat is linux-restricted-modules and how do i install it?10:23
jdorseno, I totally wiped out my .mozilla dir10:23
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jasoncohenjust make sure you hit apply policy10:23
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mtrakerhi10:23
tritiumicebreak, the easiest way is to install linux-686, or whichever architecture you have.10:23
nukyhey all.. :)10:23
jdorseI did rm -rfv ~/.mozilla10:23
jasoncohenjdorse, you should have backed it up10:24
tritiumThat will pull in linux-restricted-modules as a dependency10:24
Super_BQjasoncohen: you know the funny thing is.. I had it working before I rebooted10:24
jasoncohenjdorse, mv .mozilla .mozilla.backup10:24
jdorseI did.10:24
jdorsecopied then removed10:24
jdorseI've been slowly trying to move things back10:24
tritiumicebreak, they provide ati, nvidia kernel modules for example (among others)10:24
djpjdorse: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51049&highlight=firefox10:24
Tifaicebreak: linux-restricted-modules is a collection of kernel modules (mostly drivers I think) which have licenses which make them non-free in some way10:24
icebreaki seem to have it installed10:24
jasoncohenjdorse, ok then- try the official 1.0.6 build10:24
icebreakbut i cant get glx to work10:24
icebreaki get direct render: no10:24
jasoncohenjdorse, it's easy to install10:24
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nukycan i ask a really quick question? how do i search for files in ubuntu?10:24
mtrakerI want to install pyvoice in ubuntu, It's possible?10:25
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icebreakthe FAQ didnt work10:25
icebreaki did nvidia-glx enable10:25
jasoncohenjdorse, instructions are here - http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1.0.6.html10:25
icebreakand yet it dosnt work10:25
tritiumicebreak, you also need fglrx stuff installed.  Did you follow the BinaryDriverHowto?10:25
nukylike i wanna know where perl is.. so i did "find / perl" but that bring up lots of crap10:25
jasoncohenjdorse, download here  - http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/10:25
icebreakyeah i did10:25
icebreakand no it dosnt work10:25
jdorsejasoncohen, I think I'll just downgrade to ubuntu5.310:25
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HappyFoolmtraker: possibly; what libraries does it require?10:25
jasoncohenjdorse, i wouldn't10:25
pavilionubuntuhi, i have a big problem.... i need ubuntu in my new notebook HP Pavilion6062 (amd 64bits), when im starting install ubuntu (original cd, 64bits), after the menu, screen is down and the system stoped. i think that is the resolution, can i change this? what can i do?!!!! THXXXX10:25
jdorseit was working fine.10:25
jasoncohenjdorse, then you'll have no security updates since 1.0.210:25
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tritiumFiercetactics, please don't do that10:26
icebreakwhat could be the problem ?10:26
jasoncohenjdorse, this won't overwrite firefox10:26
slask3njdorse: what is ubuntu5.3 ? :P10:26
jasoncohenit'll keep your ubuntu version10:26
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jdorsejasoncohen, I don't want to run one from my home dir.10:26
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jdorsethat's nasty10:26
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tritiumicebreak, perhaps you followed it incorrectly or your card is not supported?  that's a tried and true wiki page.  Many have followed it successfully.10:26
jasoncohenjdorse, you can install in /opt10:26
bojanhi! i am looking for an expirienced anjuta user, for some help10:26
Rawplayeris there some official ubuuntu ppc channel!10:26
icebreaki have the gefocre 6600gt10:26
nukyanyone? i've tried lots of things... like find / (perl) find . -perl and even tried a few egrep ones but non of them seemed to work10:26
icebreaki would think it is supported10:26
jdorsejasoncohen, I'd rather not make an end run around the package manager.10:26
jasoncohenjdorse, nevermind- if you backup to 5.3 you'll have security updates to 1.0.410:27
pavilionubuntuhi!!!:S10:27
jasoncohenjdorse, whatever you want- i have both installed w/o problems. there are absolutely no conflicts since i installed it to my home dir as a user10:27
jasoncohenfeels faster too10:27
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msieradzkireally firefox is broken?10:28
jdorsejdorse, but I'll forget to upgrade when the next set of security packages comes along...10:28
jasoncohenjdorse, wait- i'm sorry 5.3 isn't available any more10:28
jasoncohenmsieradzki, for some10:28
msieradzkimozilla-firefox is broken and firefox works10:28
bojananjuta throws always an error message when i try to create a c++ project10:28
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jasoncohenjdorse, only the original hoary package10:28
msieradzkii have been upgrading from ubuntu hoary, and i got of course mozilla-firefox10:28
msieradzkiwhen i switched to firefox package it began to work10:28
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jasoncohenmsieradzki, do you have backports?10:28
msieradzkifirefox (1.0.6)10:28
msieradzkino10:28
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jasoncohenwell...1.0.6 is only in backports10:29
msieradzkii'm using breezy, so what for?10:29
jasoncohenoh, ok10:29
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jdorse1.0.6 is in backports?10:29
jasoncohenin breezy, the package is firefox10:29
jdorsehrm10:29
sturmkindhello10:29
jasoncohenmozilla-firefox is just a dummy package for upgrade10:29
pavilionubuntuhi.....10:29
mtrakerHappyFool,  the message when i run pyvoiceit's this: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module pytspc: This Python has API version 1012, module pytspc has version 1011.10:29
HappyFoolmtraker: so you probably need to compile pyvoiceit for ubuntu10:30
msieradzkiin breezy it isn't automagically upgrading to "firefox" package, i have thinked about reporting bug but as i've said it is from mozilla-firefox package10:30
bojanHappyFool: anjuta throws always an error message when i try to create a c++ project10:30
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slask3nI get this error when try running a mediafile "Totem could not play 'file:///home/slask3n/Kai Tracid - Too many times.mp3'. - Could not open resource for writing." anyone knows why?10:30
HappyFoolbojan: i'm afraid i'm not an anjuta user -- was that message intended for someone else?10:30
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sturmkindhello, is it possible that much of the ubuntu hoary cd's are buggy? i get about 300 and want to give it to some lugs and two universities but vom 30 i test only one works ;-(10:31
stian__slask3n: tried xmms?10:31
bojanHappyFool: excuse me, i thought that you also use anjuta10:31
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LeBonsoir all, i got a problem with my laptop and a screensaver from i d'ont know where any more because i 've shut down (or i beleive i have done it) If i don't type or move my mouse, a blackscreen appears. Well is there any one who can help me please ?10:31
liquidtensturmkind:  Yes it is.  About 25 out of the thirty they sent me were 100% bad.10:31
HappyFoolmtraker: that should not be too difficult; the only possibly hard part is finding out what libraries pyvoiceit needs installed10:31
jdorseubuntu should really fix the package in hoary.10:32
thingfishmisfit_toy: you watching?10:32
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sturmkindliquidten: urks ;-( thats hard10:32
liquidtensturmkind:  they failed md5sum tests and on each install they failed trying to install bsd-utils(or something like that) the other 5 worked fine though10:32
tritiumjdorse, it's being worked on10:32
Super_BQjasoncohen: sorry no dice :(10:32
jdorsetritium, until then, they should pull the updated broken one :P10:32
Super_BQjasoncohen: do I have to make changes to the 'outbound traffic policy' ?10:32
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sturmkindliquidten: the 30 i test won't start on bootup only one works fine. i have to test much more cds tomorrow10:33
tritiumjdorse, you're free to uninstall it10:33
jdorseI just did, but less tech savvy users won't be able to do that.10:33
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Super_BQjasoncohen: still comes up with port 137 source 10.0.0.3 (me) UDP SMB in the Events10:34
sturmkindso i have to play some pen and paper ;-) cheers10:34
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slask3nstian__: no, but it seems like its the sound-output device or something thats fucking..10:34
djpjdorse: it is due to the security updates that it is left. as tritium says though you can down grade. i'm just sticking with it and waiting for the fix...10:34
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stian__slask3n: yes I think so. Check if any other audio programs work.10:35
slask3nstian__: i have tested musicplayer etc however10:35
wing`is there anyone who can help me sharing internet to windows?10:35
wing`ubuntu > win10:35
stian__slask3n: hmm.. oeky, sorry cant help you.10:35
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wing`please10:35
tritiumdjp, excellent point10:35
slask3nstian__: ok, thanks for the try at least :)10:35
stian__:)10:36
wing`please i need some help sharing internet connection with an windows box10:37
djpjdorse: it's pretty secure for me at the moment... i can't even click on a link to a media file in order to open it! nothing happens! but i just workaround it by right clicking and downloading to hard disk that way.10:37
djp;)10:37
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ediwow, ubuntu is great!!!10:37
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xliuwhat is WindowMaker10:38
slask3nI get this error when try running a mediafile "Totem could not play 'file:///home/slask3n/Kai Tracid - Too many times.mp3'. - Could not open resource for writing." anyone knows why? I have tested in other players like musicplayer too, but get the same message "Could not open resource for writing".. seems like its the sounddevice or something beyond my knowledge..i have just reformatted the system, but i got it a couple times before to, bu10:38
slask3nt then i could just reboot and it was ok. its not like that now, i have rebooted 3 times and it still doesnt work.. .s10:38
thingfishdoes ubuntu use defoma?10:38
edixliu: is a window manager, next step look...10:38
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edithingfish, i think so10:38
thingfishthanks, edi.10:38
wing`man, no one knows about lan here?10:39
wing`i need some help in a easy problem10:39
Dr_MelectausIs ubuntu not meant to play DVD's ?10:39
edislask3n, try if you can copy these files10:40
kbrooksDr_Melectaus: it is.10:40
kbrooksDr_Melectaus: er, yes and no10:40
ediDr_Melectaus, yes, of course10:40
Dr_Melectausi put schindlers list in. didnt work, then tried a few others and got squat10:40
thingfishmany distros need extra stuff in order to play DVDs, Dr_Melectaus.10:40
ediDr_Melectaus, try installing xine10:40
kbrooksDr_Melectaus: do you have a cd or dvd drive?10:40
Dr_MelectausFor some reason my machine doesnt want to play DVD's10:40
Dr_Melectausyes i have a cd/dvd drive lol10:40
portahexlibdvdcss10:40
ediDr_Melectaus, try invoking the file player from a console10:41
kbrooksDr_Melectaus: NO i mean either10:41
qt2so... i have no idea what the hell is wrong :(10:41
qt2like... everything randomly crashes.10:41
qt2even x drops out and reboots sometimes.10:41
slask3nedi: the mediafiles? all the permission are correct, and i have run them several times before.. as said i think its the sound-device or something..10:41
qt2crashing stops just short of the kernel.10:41
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HappyFoolqt2: you still running that memory test?10:41
qt2and it's not my memory.10:41
qt2HappyFool, yep, no errors.10:41
edislask3n, can you launch alsaplayer?10:41
Dr_Melectauskbrooks, sorry?10:41
HappyFoolqt2: hmm. are you running any closed-source (nvidia/ati/winmodem) drivers?10:42
ediqt2, can see logs under /var/log/...10:42
kbrooksDr_Melectaus: do you have a cd OR dvd drive? one or the other, not both10:42
qt2HappyFool, none at all.10:42
ediqt2, messages and syslog are good starting points10:42
poningruStop it10:42
poningruthis is a safe zone10:42
Dr_Melectausi have both10:42
poningrusorry wrong window10:42
Dr_Melectausits a combo10:42
kbrooksDr_Melectaus: just checking10:42
slask3nedi: how do i do that? i tried alsaplayer now so i wouldnt look like a fool :P but i got "bash: alsaplayer: command not found"10:42
kbrooksDr_Melectaus: i cant play dvds :(10:42
portahexhow is this complex? you need decss10:42
portahexgah10:43
Dr_Melectauskbrooks, the drive ive got is a dvd/cd drive10:43
edislask3n, i think you need alsa (sound drivers)10:43
occyany eta on firefox getting fixed?10:43
portahextry downloading and dpkg -i'ing ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.8-0.0_i386.deb10:43
Dr_Melectauskbrooks, me neither by the looks of things10:43
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djpDr_Melectaus: regarding dvd's, no to a point. for some info if you are interested read the following http://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html10:43
HappyFoolqt2: sorry, i don't know. it sounds like faulty hardware. have you looked in the logs as edi suggested?10:43
kbrooksportahex: Ni,10:43
kbrooksNo*10:43
thingfishoccy - there's someone else who used to be a fedora person.10:43
slask3nedi: arent alsa installed from the beginning? it always has before..10:43
occythingfish, heh10:43
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qt2HappyFool, saw nothing of signifigance before, i'll check again though.10:43
thingfishhi occy10:43
slask3nedi: but ill check now10:43
occythingfish, :)10:43
kbrooksportahex: DO NOT direct people to use marillat.10:43
everett_Anybody bored? Wanna get in a zealot debate? Okay, I'll start, monolithic vs micro kernels.10:44
edislask3n, yes, please, look for it in synaptic10:44
HappyFoolqt2: maybe you should run 'badblocks' on your hard-drive, i guess from the livecd10:44
portahexkbrooks, feel free to suggest a more suitable repo. or answer their problem.10:44
guerbyhi, any openvpn user out there? I'd like to assign a fixed IP to each client, it looks like it's done with the "ipp.txt" file but I cannot find the file format in the doc, any idea?10:44
Dr_Melectausare there any other torrent clients other than bittorrent10:44
thingfishyeah, I mean even debian has to go to marillat.10:44
thingfishfor libdvdcss10:44
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kbrooksportahex: marillat is a debian repo and is therefore incompatible with ubuntu10:44
thingfishah10:45
Burgundaviaportahex, hoary-extras for the backports has the same stuff, compiled for ubuntu10:45
kbrooksportahex: just because ubuntu is based on debian doesnt mean they look or taste the same, etc10:45
ediguerby: in config files: "remote xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"10:45
Dr_Melectausare there any other torrent clients other than bittorrent10:45
thingfishmaybe it's in universe or multiverse then.10:45
ediDr_Melectaus, try azureus, it's good a lot10:45
portahexodd, that exact package installed for me a few seconds ago10:45
HappyFoolDr_Melectaus: i think i used bittornado for a while10:45
kbrooksportahex: irrevelant10:46
slask3nedi: i got alsa-base, gstreamer0.8-alsa, alsa-utils, and libpt-plugin-alsa installed.. and im installing alsaplayer-alsa now10:46
portahexkbrooks, so suggest something better.10:46
kbrooksportahex: *newbies*10:46
Burgundaviaportahex, hoary-extras has the same packages, compiled for hoary10:46
slask3nedi: or should i install it? i never been using it before10:46
edislask3n, you may have alsamixer in /usr/bin10:46
edislask3n, don't you?10:47
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Burgundaviaportahex, marilliat is compiled against a newer libc than hoary and thus causes all kinds of problems10:47
everett_You know what would be nice? An OSS encryption scheme, end users use it for free, all the big media giants have to pay liscensing fees. :D10:47
kbrookseverett_: gnupg10:47
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Dr_Melectausfor christ sake, im installing programs but there not there10:47
La_PaRCawow10:48
ediDr_Melectaus, what programs?10:48
slask3nedi: no i havent, i have installed ubuntu many times, and just installed the gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3-support, and then everything has been working fine.. but yes, alsamixer is in /usr/bin/10:48
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La_PaRCaI updated my firefox and now the flash plugin is killing it everytime10:48
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everett_not there as in not in the /usb/bin or not in the gnome menu?10:48
Dr_Melectauswell, i just tried bittornado10:48
portahexfine. and nobody thought to actually answer the problem people had, then? fuck it, i really have less than zero to gain from this channel10:48
edislask3n, try executing it10:48
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Dr_Melectausit installed. But i tried running it thru terminal, and tried thru apps> run prog10:48
kbrookssheesh10:48
flipydoes anyone have drupal installed?10:48
Dr_Melectauslooked in apps>interweb>10:49
ediDr_Melectaus, and what is the error you get?10:49
everett_portahex, how about you realize how many people have problems,combined with the fact only a few experinced users are available for answers, and consider that most problems can be fixed by reading the forums/documentation.10:49
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Dr_Melectausedi, try t open the torrent and it says so and so cant be displayed10:49
slask3nedi: AlsaMixer output: "Card: Camera; Chip: USB Mixer; View: Playback; Item: Auto Gain Control"10:49
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edipexi, spain?10:50
pexisi10:50
ediDr_Melectaus, from browser?10:50
flipyhow can I change the password for root in mysql'10:50
flipy?10:50
edislask3n, you have a camera and it has been put first in device list10:50
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Dr_Melectausmelectaus@ubuntu:~$ open bittornado10:50
Dr_MelectausCouldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console10:50
Dr_MelectausCould not get a file descriptor referring to the console10:50
edislask3n, try alsamixer -c 110:50
terjehello, how do I get sshd to start when the system boots?10:50
qt2HappyFool,  i'm seeing lots of stack traces and stuff in /var/log/messages... <.<;10:51
slask3nedi: how do i fix that? the camera is my microphone..10:51
resiakeverett_: The point is that this channel is utterly useless at actually answering questions. portahex may have not been recommending the Official Ubuntu Way, but why didn't those people who stabbed him for it just answer the original question?10:51
ediDr_Melectaus, save your file, open a console and type "bittornado <filename>"10:51
lydonterje: if you use apt-get install sshd, then it should start automatically anyway10:51
djpDr_Melectaus: why don't you right click and save as, the torrent file you wish to download in firefox. then browse to the .toorent file you have downloaded and double click it. it should open the default gnome-bittorrent program10:51
edislask3n, have you tried "alsamixer -c 1"?10:51
Burgundaviaresiak, no it is not and I clearly answered why not to use marilliat and provided a different option10:51
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terjeThanks Lydon, I've already installed it.10:51
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terjeDo I not need to get the init scripts configured or does the package do that?10:52
lydonterje: the package should do that automatically10:52
terjethanks10:52
Dr_Melectausdjp the file is on my desktop10:52
everett_resiak, what was his original question before he threw the hissy fit?10:52
slask3nedi: yes im in there now, it says "Card: VIA 8235; Chip: Realtek ALC650E; View: Playback; Item: Master" this time..10:52
Dr_Melectausit doesnt work when i open it10:52
lydonno problem10:52
resiakeverett_: portahex was _answering_ someone10:53
edislask3n, you have to invert the order of your modules10:53
Dr_MelectausCouldn't display "/home/melectaus/Desktop/OST-...8Retail%29-2004-MUSiQ.torrent".10:53
djpDr_Melectaus: right click on the file and see if gnome-bittorrent is set as the default app to open the .torrent file10:53
resiakBurgundavia: You told portahex. Why didn't you answer the original question that he answered (wrongly) if you know the answer and have time to type it out?10:53
slask3nedi: how do i do that? i am a semi-n00b, and a real n00b when it comes to this..10:53
lydonhas anyone installed baghira (I think that's spelled right) on Ubuntu?10:53
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guerbyedi, thanks (I assume I have to do this on the server only and "remote" is the client name let's try...10:53
Dr_Melectausgnome bittorrent isnt there10:54
La_PaRCaUm... the flash plugin is blocking my firefox when I try to close a page that has any flash in it10:54
Dr_Melectausi tried totally removeing it, then reinstalling it10:54
Burgundaviaresiak, I can in the middle of dispute. I only mentioned hoary-extras, because it provides marilliat for hoary10:54
Dr_Melectausbut it isnt appeating10:54
edislask3n, i have been looking for a solution10:54
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Dr_Melectausappearing*10:54
djpDr_Melectaus: if it isn't, use the open with other application... and search for gnome-bittorrent to open the file10:54
resiakBurgundavia: I'm well aware of that.10:54
edislask3n, open /etc/modutils/alsa-base in a text editor, please10:54
Dr_Melectausgnome-bittorrent isnt there10:54
slask3nedi: ok10:54
pexiDr_Melectaus, you can use azureus10:55
Burgundaviaresiak, the livdvdcss question?10:55
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edislask3n, go to the end of the file10:55
resiakBurgundavia: _Yes_.10:55
Burgundaviaresiak, hoary-extras provides that10:55
edislask3n, you will see lines that start with "options"10:55
Dr_Melectauspexi, how do i download azureus10:55
djpDr_Melectaus: be aware that azureus requires sun java10:55
slask3nedi: yes10:55
Dr_Melectausok10:55
pexihttp://azureus.sf.net10:55
resiakBurgundavia: _I_ _KNOW_.10:55
resiak*gone*10:55
ediDr_Melectaus, go to the download page (with browser), look for it in google10:55
Burgundaviaresiak, ok10:55
qt2HappyFool, would you like me to post it up somewhere?10:56
edislask3n, look for the id of your card "viaxxxxxxx"10:56
djpDr_Melectaus: for your info... http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html10:56
slask3nedi: options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2 :: options snd-bt87x index=-2 :: options snd-intel8x0m index=-2 :: options snd-via82xx-modem index=-210:56
Dr_Melectausedi, cant i apt get it10:56
mike_how do I use a diff file to apply patches to source?10:56
edislask3n, change it ...10:56
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qt2Dr_Melectaus, http://azureus.sf.net/10:56
HappyFoolqt2: your logs?10:56
HappyFoolqt2: you seeing anything useful?10:56
edislask3n, please, do a lsmod in a console10:56
qt2HappyFool, the message log is the only one with any thing about crages...10:56
qt2HappyFool, lots of stack traces and stuff...10:57
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slask3nedi: should i reverse the order here? doing lsmod now..10:57
Apophismy cousin installed ubuntu today ubuntu , ubuntu could find his modem ;( what can we try ?10:57
HappyFoolqt2: um. you can put it up on the pastebin, i guess, but i'm not sure i'll be able to help10:57
HappyFool!pastebin10:57
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood10:57
edimike_, depends on the kind of diff, but may be something as "patch -p1 < file.diff" under the directory of the application10:57
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HappyFoolqt2: also, i'm sleepy and i want to go to bed soon ;)10:57
azambujahi10:57
Apophismodem Best Data Fax modem10:57
edislask3n, you have to tell me about the snd-card-xxxxx lines10:58
azambujaanyone could please help me with one annoying thing?10:58
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azambujai have configured the network properly and it works fine. but when i reboot it cant connect to the net. Then i do a network restart and everything is fine10:58
azambujahow can i fix this? what can it be?10:59
loderunnerI've managed to royally screw my file ownerships10:59
mike_edi, how can I tell?10:59
slask3nedi: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/72210:59
edislask3n, have i explained it correctly? my english is not much good10:59
edislask3n, ok, lets see10:59
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taromarucoudl somebody tell me a  command to Block a desktop?10:59
slask3nedi: i pasted it in pastebin.. your english is ok :)10:59
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taromaruxlock or something else10:59
edislask3n, tnx10:59
mike_edi, starts like this  diff -X ignore -Nru clean/wine/dlls/d3d8/basetexture.c patch/wine/dlls/d3d8/bas$--- clean/wine/dlls/d3d8/basetexture.c  2005-06-03 19:08:48.000000000 +010010:59
mike_+++ patch/wine/dlls/d3d8/basetexture.c  2005-06-14 13:41:56.000000000 +010010:59
mike_@@ -130,7 +130,7 @@10:59
mike_     return This->levels;10:59
mike_ }10:59
slask3nedi: where are you from?10:59
loderunnerI need to find a way to change owners for everything in a dir, all subdirs, files and hidden files.  It's the hidden files that's the tricky part10:59
mike_sorry for spam people11:00
edislask3n, spain11:00
edi:)11:00
loderunnerI can't do chown -R .* because that affects, well, everything11:00
taromaruas me!11:00
slask3nedi: ok.. i want to go to spain now! its cold here in norway! :P hehe11:00
loderunnercan anyone help me?11:00
taromarunorway is great11:00
taromarusweden is so too11:00
HappyFoolloderunner: maybe you can use 'find' in conjunction with chown11:00
resiakloderunner: chown * .[^.] *11:01
slask3nedi: did you get anything out of the lsmod?11:01
resiakloderunner: -R etc as well.11:01
edislask3n, this is your snd card: snd_via82xx11:01
resiakloderunner: .[^.] * means "starts with a dot, then one non-dot character, then anything else.11:01
slask3nedi: that can be correct.. its a asus a7v8x and is using via chipset11:01
loderunneroh cool11:01
loderunnerthat's exactly what I need11:01
loderunnerthnx a bunch11:01
resiakloderunner: Unless you have files that start with .. but aren't just ..11:02
edislask3n, and this is the other driver: snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio11:02
loderunnerI shouldn't have...11:02
slask3nedi: snd_usb_audio is the camera11:02
slask3nedi: thats almost ecverything i know :P11:02
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edislask3n, put it at the end of /etc/modutils/alsa-base:11:03
HappyFoolresiak: not that it really matters, but that seems to not match the filename '...'11:03
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akkAnyone know much about font rendering?11:03
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Apophismy cousin installed ubuntu today ubuntu , ubuntu couldnt find his modem ;( what can we try ?11:03
edislask3n, "options snd-via82xx index=1" and next line "options snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio index=2"11:03
akkI'm getting pixellated fonts in hoary in a lot of apps, trying to figure out how to fix them.11:03
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desrtApophis; is it a winmodem?11:04
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edislask3n, sorry: "options snd_usb_audio index=2"11:04
slask3nedi: should i remove the stuff thats there from before?11:04
resiakHappyFool: No, it doesn't. If you start files with .., it doesn't work. But most people don't, and it's easier than find . -print0 | xargs -0 chown +R badger:snake11:04
edislask3n, not "snd_ac97_codec" (paste problem)11:04
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HappyFoolApophis: have you been to the linmodem site? http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/11:04
edislask3n, no, add it at the end of file11:04
binaanyone know of a way to reduce the delay in sound when using aRts in KDE?11:04
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resiakHappyFool: And before you say "You don't need -print0 or -0", you do, if we're expecting stupidly-named files.11:04
desrtor http://www.linmodems.org/ even11:05
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mike_what command do I type to apply a .diff as a patch?11:05
edislask3n, then open a terminal and execute "update-modules"11:05
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everett_bina, I always turn of arts in favor for alsa11:05
resiakmike_: patch -p0 < file.patch11:05
everett_*off11:05
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resiakmike_: If that fails, try -p111:05
mike_ok11:05
binaeverett_: how do you do that?11:05
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nothingssomethincan someone help me please11:06
everett_go to control panel, sound and check disable sound server11:06
mike_resiak, it's asking the file to patch11:06
everett_make sure alsa is installed.11:06
everett_then add alsa to your startup. Which I don't remember how to do right now.11:06
edislask3n, have you done it?11:06
slask3nedi: i dot know its correct but now the file looks like this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/72311:06
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everett_!alsa11:06
ubotueverett_: I haven't a clue11:06
resiakmike_: You cd into the directory of what you need to patch, then do patch -p0 (or -p1 if that fails) < /path/to/the/patch11:07
AndaresHi.11:07
edislask3n, right11:07
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nothingssomethini hvae ubuntu and i just wanted to know how to let a windows computer over  a small network see 1or 2 folders from ubuntu and it can't see them11:07
edislask3n, now do the "update-modules" in a console11:07
mike_resiak, cheers11:07
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AndaresIn Ubuntu, I've noticed a serious quality degredation between music on XP and Ubuntu.11:07
AndaresHow can I correct this?11:07
ediAndares, degradation?11:07
slask3nedi: bash: update-module: command not found11:07
Andaresedi11:07
edislask3n, update-modules11:08
slask3noops11:08
AndaresYes, it sounds like it's 32k sound.11:08
AndaresBut it's 128k11:08
aruall my Hank Williams Sr. sounds perfect :)11:08
ediAndares, what sound card do you have?11:08
AndaresStrange.11:08
Andaresedi, Crystal SoundFusion is all I know.11:08
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nothingssomethincan anyone please help me or give me some pointers11:08
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slask3nedi: still same problem "could not open resource for writing"11:08
ediAndares, could it be volume (pcm too high and master too low...), please, play with mixer11:08
anatoleAndares: try and set the pcm sound to 75%11:08
nothingssomethinmaybe sugest a ubuntu page11:09
aruit isn't rap music you are playing is it, because I head ubuntu doesn't support rap...11:09
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akkNobody else has seen this blocky font problem?11:09
edislask3n, yes, you have to do "/etc/init.d/alsa restart" and it may work11:09
Andaresedi, k.11:09
nothingssomethinhow can it not soupport rap11:09
nothingssomethinreally11:09
slask3naru: for me you talking? :P no, its hard-trance/acid11:09
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akkI've tried uncommenting subpixel and autohinting in /etc/fonts/local.conf, but neither one seems to make any difference.11:09
aru:)11:09
ediAndares, I have an audigy and have same problem when mixer is not correctly switched11:09
binaeverett_: k thanks11:09
nothingssomethinaru are you sereous11:09
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arunothingssomethin: someone said it once as a joke, and I found it funny and decided to repeat it11:10
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nothingssomethini thought so11:10
nothingssomethinlol11:10
resiak...11:10
Andaresedi, COOL! :)11:10
arubut I do have a bridge for sale11:10
AndaresWorks now.11:10
sun_hi ubuntu is great i just installed it and i think its running about 10x faster than debian on inspiron 9300.  i was wondering if there's a way to install debian packages which are not in the ubuntu archive?  for example i *really* would like to use ion3 as the window manager.11:10
slask3nedi. no.. still the same11:10
ediAndares, right!11:10
nothingssomethinaru does ubuntu soupport windows fileshare both ways11:11
edinothingssomethin, of course, within samba11:11
Andaresnothingssomethin, yes.11:11
aruI'm not sure, I don't have windows11:11
nothingssomethinubuntu comes with samba tho11:11
everett_sun_, are you familar with synaptic?11:11
nothingssomethinam i right11:11
edislask3n, I can't imagine why does not work. let me see something11:11
sun_everett_ im used to just using aptitude on the command line, synaptic is a gui from what i understand?11:11
slask3nnothingssomethin: if its smb you mean so yes.. :) install smb and you can have a winshare on linux too11:11
emXsun_: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the 'universe' sections and you'll get access to most debian packages (including ion3, which I'm using right now)11:12
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everett_Yes, it is installed in ubuntu  by default, very helpful.11:12
emXsun_: then 'apt-get update', followed by 'sudo apt-get install ion3'11:12
robert_pectolakk:   I noticed a somewhat "blocky" looking font in xmms but everything else looks good here.11:12
everett_go to system > administration, synaptic11:12
emXsun_: *'sudo apt-get update'11:12
nothingssomethinare there any goood smb pages i can read for begners11:12
slask3nedi: just tell me what you need to see, and ill copy the file/consoleoutput for you.. or you can command me to do things :) youre my master now! ;) hehe :p11:12
sun_emX thanks _a lot!_ im sure you appreciate why i really must have ion3 since you seem to be a fan also11:12
nothingssomethinbeginers11:12
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emXsun_: i'm very,very,very,very happy with it. ion3/screen makes my day.11:13
akkrobert_pectol: I'm seeing it in all terminal clients, in fvwm titlebars, and in gtkfontsel ... basically everywhere except xchat.11:13
edislask3n, can you reboot? problem can fix with a reboot11:13
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edislask3n, ill stay here until problem will fix11:13
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slask3nedi: ok, ill be back soon :)11:13
robert_pectolakk:   That's odd!  I wish I knew what to tell you!11:13
Apophismy cousin installed ubuntu today ubuntu , ubuntu couldnt find his modem ;( what can we try ?11:14
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incompetencehi11:14
Apophismake : BestData11:14
Apophisfax modem11:14
edihi incompetence11:14
everett_Apophis, was your cousin in here befopre under the name creasy?11:14
Apophisplz help11:15
catfoxhi all. can anyone point to somewhere with examples of ubuntu xorg.conf and fstab files? i don't have access to my hoary box to get them11:15
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incompetencei messed up my dbus/hal/gnome-volume-manager i installed a self compiled 2.6.12.3 kernel11:15
everett_catfox, want me to just send you mine?11:15
Apophisevernett_ No11:15
akkrobert_pectol: For instance, http://shallowsky.com/tmp/screenshot.png11:15
Apophiscan u guys plz help me out.11:15
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akk(that's with one of the msttcorefonts, but lots of native fonts display just as badly)11:15
incompetenceg-v-m tells me now "Error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable"11:15
catfoxeverett_, sure thanks. i need an xorg.conf with a synaptics setup though11:16
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everett_well for starters try using "cardname linux" at google.11:16
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Apophisno linux drivers on bestdata.com ;(11:16
everett_errr, that I don't have.11:16
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chris24tnthi, everyone. i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, and i'm having a little trouble finding documentation on getting the wifi adapter working11:16
chris24tntanyone here had any luck with that?11:16
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La_PaRCachris24tnt, what wi.fi adapter?11:16
chris24tntlemme check11:17
Apophisevernett_ any suggestions?11:17
akkchris24tnt: I find I have to ifconfig my cardbus ethernet card by hand the first time, and then after that it gets configured correctly.11:17
chris24tnt0000:02:06.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)11:17
edicatfox, see my xorg.conf in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/72411:17
akkchris24tnt: For some reason ifup doesn't configure it from /etc/network/interfaces the way it does on other debian distros, haven't figured out why (maybe a HAL thing?)11:18
chris24tnthmmm11:18
robert_pectolakk:   Ouch!  Not to pretty!11:18
catfoxedi, thanks i'll take a look11:18
chris24tntbut how do i turn it on?11:18
everett_catfox, you still want my xorg.conf?11:18
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edicatfox, my fstab: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/72511:18
chris24tntbrb11:18
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akkrobert_pectol: Yeah, I'm trying to switch to ubuntu from sid for daily work, but I need to make screenshots for a book.11:18
chris24tntback11:19
slask3nedi: I was forgetting somethinng.. i think it all started when i plugged in the usb web camera..11:19
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slask3nedi: still have the same problem too.. should i unplug the webcam?11:19
edislask3n, yes, of course11:19
slask3nedi: but, i need the webcam to use its microphone.. thats the problem..11:19
chris24tntakk, i'm just not sure how to get it turned on, and i also want to link it to the wifi button on my laptop so that i can conveniently enable and disable it11:19
slask3nedi: but the mic doesnt work either though...11:20
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catfoxeverett_, do you have synaptics section?11:20
edislask3n, join #edi, please11:20
akkchris24tnt: Does dmesg make it look like the card is recognized? Does lsmod show a module that looks like it's for the card?11:21
poningruI had a question11:22
poningruis it possible to do the repositories as a torrent client thing?11:22
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Burgundaviaponingru, not within the current framework11:23
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ediponingru, i have heard about some experiments with debian11:23
edislask3n, ???11:23
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poningruBurgundavia: well obviously but scrap the entire thing and start over new11:23
poningruedi: linky?11:23
chillywillyearl11:24
poningruto a discussion or something11:24
ediponingru, i do not remember11:24
chillywillygoogle is your freind11:24
chris24tntakk, i'm looking around, but i can't seem to find any sign of a loaded module for my wifi adapter11:25
chris24tntand i can't find it on dmesg either, although that's quite a jumble of stuff to glance through11:25
everett_catfox, no.11:25
qt2HappyFool, http://pastebin.com/31878611:25
everett_but if you google it I'm sure you will.11:25
qt2http://pastebin.com/318786 <- anyone happen to know what might be causing this sort of stuff...?11:25
akkchris24tnt: in dmesg it'll be one of the last few lines if you just inserted the card. It's chronological.11:26
chris24tntoh no, it's built in11:26
poningruanyone ever tried qtorrent?11:26
chris24tntso any idea where it might end up?11:26
poningruis it anygood?11:26
akkchris24tnt: Oh, I just scrolled up and saw it's a broadcom.11:26
chris24tntya :)11:26
akkchris24tnt: You'll probably have to google on that. Broadcom is one of the companies that keeps their specs secret.11:27
chris24tnti read somewhere that i might need to install something so that i can install the windows drivers11:27
chris24tntakk, lovely; guess you get what you pay for :P11:27
akkchris24tnt: Yeah. I think there's a native driver in development too (reverse engineered) but I don't know how well it works.11:27
chris24tnthmmmm11:27
akkchris24tnt: If you google I'm sure you'll find both of those.11:27
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chris24tntk, i'll give it a try. are you interested, if i find the answer?11:28
AndaresHmm...11:28
AndaresThere seems to be sort of a muffler on the sound.11:28
AndaresPads it over a bit, eliminates sharp tones, etc.11:28
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AndaresDoes it exist?11:28
AndaresHow do I eliminate it?11:28
AndaresAlso, how do I set Ubuntu to work on two monitors?11:29
tarvidrunning proftpd, login as a user and i can read /etc - not good11:29
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chris24tntalso, firefox continually closes out my tabs, and i have no idea why. if i click a link that opens a tab, it opens but closes the tab when i click on it. if i hit ctrl+t, it just gives me a lovely blank screen11:30
tarvidcan i fix this or should i look for a chrrot solution?11:30
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AndaresHeh.11:30
AndaresI use to know a chris123nt.11:30
Nimblehow do I rename a file in Ubuntu, as in whats the commmand11:30
tarvidNimble, mv a b11:31
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Chris_Tuckermv oldname newname11:31
robert_pectoltarvid:   Last time I configured proftpd, there was an option in the config file to chroot the users to their home directories.11:32
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robert_pectoltarvid:   That's what I'd do if possible.11:32
qt2are there other ubuntu related channels? such as #ubuntu-dev, for example?11:33
chris24tnthmmm...it seems that there is a windows ndis driver compatibility layer at linuxant.com, but it's not free, and it seems to get varying success rates11:33
cafuegoqt2: Yes. Also #kubuntu, #ubuntu-doc11:33
NimbleHow do I delete a file now?11:33
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everett_!kernel11:34
qt2cafuego, so there's no dev channel?11:34
supernixanyone know what the deal is with that really long version string for the synaptic upgrade ?11:34
cafuegoqt2: There probably is.11:34
tazNimble, you just wanna know how to delete a file? or what?11:34
Nimblewhat command deletes a file11:34
LuNaTiK^GuYdoes a windows user prefer kde or gnome?11:35
tazrm11:35
Nimbleis what I would like to know =D11:35
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LuNaTiK^GuYi think i like kde better....altough some features in gnome are nice ;)11:35
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tazNimble, rm = remove11:35
sunhi what's a virtual package?11:35
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tarvidthanks for the proftp help, i don't know what i did but at least i can no longer read /etc/passwd11:36
highvoltagesun: it's a package that installs other packages11:36
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deliresun: it's a meta package, eg one that represents the installation of several other packages.11:36
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deliresun: purely there for convenience and brevity.11:36
sunhighvoltage when i tell aptitude to install it, it doesnt do anything, why not?11:36
highvoltagefor example, you might have a virtuall package called "games-all", which will install all the games available.11:36
highvoltagesun: the virtual package might already be installed11:36
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Virtuallheyko, stop highlighting me11:36
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Virtuallvirtual is written with one l11:36
Virtuall;)11:37
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Virtuallhey*11:37
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Virtualloops11:37
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Virtuallpressed tab11:37
Virtualllol11:37
sunis kino the best for taking home videos off dv camera and working with them on ubuntu?11:37
Virtuallforget it11:37
Virtuall:D11:37
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: save the majority of users that will do it anyway alot of time.11:37
deliresun: kino. it's excellent11:37
sunthanks11:38
LuNaTiK^GuYdelire: i agree....although its not difficult to follow the instructions on the ubuntu guide11:38
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: it is11:38
LuNaTiK^GuYhow?11:38
LuNaTiK^GuYall i did was copy the commands11:38
LuNaTiK^GuYand it all worked11:38
kbrooksfor newbies who want to know WHAT THE COMMANDS do11:38
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LuNaTiK^GuYapt-get is a sort of package manager11:38
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: it's more the annoyance, i don't think it's so difficult, but many have no idea what those commands are.11:38
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kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: you certainly  DO not know what the commands do11:39
LuNaTiK^GuYapt-get install mypackage11:39
LuNaTiK^GuYwots so tough?11:39
nothingssomethinif i install smb on ubuntu is there a graphical interface that i can use  ....for anyone11:39
justecoI can't seem t find a flash plugin for Mozilla in any repositories.  Has it been removed due to licensing or something?11:39
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kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: uh, other commands, not just apt. for example, wget11:39
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LuNaTiK^GuYyes ok11:39
LuNaTiK^GuYkbrooks11:39
LuNaTiK^GuYi'm still learning11:39
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kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: 'what does -c do?'11:39
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kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: that's a mere example11:39
LuNaTiK^GuY-c ....its a command to show u want to resume the download11:39
delire.. there's my 0.02 Euro cents11:40
Andareso_()11:40
LuNaTiK^GuYi'm coming form windows11:40
LuNaTiK^GuYso i'm finding some stuff very tough to deal with11:40
taznothingssomethin, what are you going to use smb for? sharing files on your linux machine?11:40
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: i'm saying in general11:40
LuNaTiK^GuYbut i'm learning bits here and there11:40
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taznothingssomethin, in that case in gnome you have a GUI when you rightclick on a folder and chose "share"11:41
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: YOU DO want to know what the commands do? then use manual pages, google, etc.11:41
LuNaTiK^GuYkbrooks....i DO agree with u11:41
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: unfortunately11:41
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justecoAnyone have some insite into where the flash plugin disappeared to?11:41
LuNaTiK^GuYbut i'm willing to learn11:41
bach_lapthats good11:41
LuNaTiK^GuYit takes time11:41
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: for total noobs who dont want to learn, ...11:41
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: ^^^^11:41
delirekbrooks: precis, just use11:41
LuNaTiK^GuYif u dont want to learn..........Linux is a learning platform11:41
robert_pectoltarvid:   I can msg you with an example proftpd config file that will put the users in a chroot environment if you want...11:42
LuNaTiK^GuYits free to get....but theres a price....a steep learning curve11:42
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: how about grandma?11:42
ksymsHow do I open my xserver so other applications can connect to it?11:42
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: but it can be a general purpose OS. and a good migration target for those that don't want to learn11:42
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: as in the idiot user11:42
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LuNaTiK^GuYgrandma? i never got on the net faster than i do with linux11:42
LuNaTiK^GuYi never got an office suit faster than i did with linux11:42
LuNaTiK^GuYthats enough for grandma11:42
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bach_laphehe11:42
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: but you're obviously a smart and curious person interested in computing.11:42
kbrooksdelire: yes, but can you think of a scenario where someone does not want to learn and just wants to DO SOMETHING?11:43
LuNaTiK^GuYwindows takes ma at least 6 hours to set up properly11:43
bach_lapbut if u think about it.. u have to learn windows too11:43
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kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: lol, for me, its days11:43
LuNaTiK^GuYalthough i agree some aspects of windows are easier to deal with11:43
LuNaTiK^GuYLinux is improving at a rapid rate11:43
AndaresHmm...11:43
LuNaTiK^GuYand Ubuntu is testimony to it11:43
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AndaresHow do I configure my second monitor in Ubuntu?11:43
BockBilbodoes de download option of firefox work fine for you guys in ubuntu?11:43
ksymsHow do I open my xserver so other applications can connect to it?11:44
BockBilboi mean, clicking on a url to download a file.. does it open the firefox download manager?11:44
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kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: "easier" is irrevelant. how easy is linux? how easy is windows? there's no way to measure how either is "easier".11:44
BockBilboit doesnt work for me since i upgraded last day11:44
foxinesshow can i uninstall mono "not .deb" i dont remember the Instructions , coz its long time now from i do that on april11:44
delirekbrooks: sit down at a computer and print something. i oversaw several Ubuntu machines at a festival on the weekend. Ubuntu held up really well. most took around 10mins to get used to basic navigation. printing something was a little trickier however.11:44
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kbrooksdelire: 10 minutes is too long.11:44
foxinessi want to install now the last one 1.711:44
LuNaTiK^GuYkbrooks.....i've been using win for 10 yrs...so its 2nd nature...so i may find it easier...but i'm getting the hang of PARTS of linux11:44
LuNaTiK^GuYwith time11:45
kbrooksdelire: for windows, it takes a MINUTE to get used navigation11:45
foxinesssorry Mono 1.1.711:45
delirekbrooks: perhaps.. however having seen Linux in very public situations several times in the past, it's getting there. it's really close.11:45
Prof_FrinkLuNaTiK^GuY: best way to learn something is to play with it11:45
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LuNaTiK^GuYProf_Frink: thats exactly wot i'm doing11:45
oggahbeen using windows for ten years also. started with win95 1994 I think :)11:45
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LuNaTiK^GuYi'm tryong to do stuff i do with win on Linux11:46
delirekbrooks: win32 has the benefit of familiarity. it is recognised, thus comforting. first barrier overcome.11:46
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kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: example?11:46
jakeBit also has great development environments11:46
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LuNaTiK^GuYthe first thing that got me to use linux are the gui's...very mac like11:46
oggahhave been studying the linuxcommunity seriously for the last year.11:46
foxinessits safe to install mono 1.1.7 over 1.1.6 (sorcepackage) ?11:46
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LuNaTiK^GuYinternet...office work...programming work....mutimedia11:46
delirekbrooks: that folk can sit down on a new OS, Ubuntu, and be up and running in 10mins on average is impressive in itself.11:46
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: ummm... guis can be "not mac like"11:46
aruLuNaTiK^GuY: customizable, so you don't have to stare at xp luna for 5 years until an update11:46
foxinesscoz i dont know how can i uninstall it now11:46
LuNaTiK^GuYi like the MAC standard11:47
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: for example, look at kde11:47
LuNaTiK^GuYi usually mod my gnome/kde to look like a MAC :)11:47
oggahkde and gnome is slow! go for xfce, fluxbox or something light :)11:47
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: i like the windows standard11:47
kbrooksoggah...11:47
AndaresAhh...11:47
LuNaTiK^GuYkde is similar to Windows11:47
kbrooksoggah: speed is irrevelant11:47
AndaresI need a window manager that's like Windows 2000/XP.11:47
LuNaTiK^GuYyet its much more modifiable11:47
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: i customized gnome11:47
AndaresOr I will go INSANE.11:47
Andares;x11:47
oggahAndares, xfce4-11:47
kbrooksAndares: customize gnome11:47
kbrooksoggah: wrong11:47
Andaresoggah, k.11:48
oggahkbrooks, whats right?11:48
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kbrooksoggah: customizing gnome11:48
kbrooksoggah: want a ss?11:48
AmaranthAndares: Why do you want to make GNOME look like ass^WWindows?11:48
kbrooksas in screenshot11:48
AndaresWhat the hay?11:48
kbrooksAmaranth: be nice, please11:48
LuNaTiK^GuYlook at this...in windows ur given one GUI...and like it or not...u must stick to it....so yes u must learn it...in Linux ur given choice...and sometimes its tougher to choose than to actually USE it....11:48
AndaresThis looks nothing like NT 5.00.. It looks like Mac.11:48
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delireAndares: KDE can be setup to be almost undetectably Windows like.11:48
oggahis it easy to get gnome / kde look like mac os x?11:49
AndaresAmaranth, because making a cold conversion from Windows XP to Linux is stressing me out.11:49
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boudewijni've got a question: how can i force my cdrom to eject?11:49
kbrooksoggah: yes very easy11:49
Andaresboudewijn, sledgehammer.11:49
oggahshow me som screendumps :)11:49
kbrooksoggah: do you want a ss or not?11:49
qt2if i do a apt-get dist-upgrade, as per the ubuntu updat managers instructuions, i get an error saying "The following packages have been kept back: libwnck16" ...why?11:49
Andaresor use a paperclip.11:49
Amaranthkbrooks: I can't, I'm in a bad mood.11:49
oggahsure11:49
boudewijnAndares, lol11:49
delireoggah: yes of course: http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=15431&file1=15431-1.jpg&file2=15431-2.jpg&file3=15431-3.jpg&name=KDE+3.3+-+Xorg+6.8+Beta+-+Unbeatable11:49
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kbrooksoggah: uh, this is for windows11:49
Amaranthkbrooks: my linux HD crashed taking all the work i did on smeg 0.8 with it11:49
kbrooksAmaranth: be calm?11:49
Andaresboudewijn, there's a little slot you can stick a paperclip into that'll make it eject.11:49
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Amaranthkbrooks: and i don't have any CDs so i'm stuck on windows11:49
kbrooksAmaranth: oh my gosh11:49
qt2followed "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded."11:49
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kbrooksAmaranth: i feel sorry for you. but i have .....11:50
kbrooksa way11:50
delireAmaranth: ouch.11:50
qt2how do i upgrade that, and why does it not want to upgrade...?11:50
cheroHello11:50
oggahkbrooks, try dcc send.11:50
Amaranthkbrooks: i can't touch this HD, it's got to keep windows on it11:50
kbrooksAmaranth: why?11:50
oggahdelire, gosh. so great lookin!11:50
delireqt2: try an apt-get upgrade, again.11:50
LuNaTiK^GuYhttp://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=15431&file1=15431-1.jpg&file2=15431-2.jpg&file3=15431-3.jpg&name=KDE+3.3+-+Xorg+6.8+Beta+-+Unbeatable11:50
cheroI'm a Linux newbie, no experience besides Knoppix. How do I mount the other windows partitions located on my HD?11:50
LuNaTiK^GuYWOWWW11:50
kbrooksAmaranth: are you scaresd?11:50
LuNaTiK^GuYi want that ;)11:50
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LuNaTiK^GuYbe rite with u chero11:51
delireoggah: frankly it's horrible to me, but yes, it's possible to have an OSX clone on KDE easily.11:51
Amaranthkbrooks: 1) it's not mine 2) it's got games on it 3) other people need windows to be on it11:51
oggahdelire, looks better than mac os x :) does it require alot of ram?11:51
gigaclon!mount11:51
ubotuI heard mount is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:51
delireoggah: about as much.11:51
gigaclon!tell chero about mount11:51
msieradzkican i get transparent windows in current ubuntu (breezy) or i need to wait for some new x server or something like that?11:51
kbrooksAmaranth: ok ok11:51
delireoggah: would take you about a day, but it would be yours ;)11:51
LuNaTiK^GuYfollow ubotu :)11:51
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oggah=)11:51
flyingpenguin900HOLY11:51
qt2delire, no difference.11:51
kbrooksflyingpenguin900: what?11:51
Amaranthkbrooks: i think the other HD is savable, i just need to figure out how11:51
delireqt2: try to apt-get install that package.11:52
kbrooksAmaranth: well, i heard freezing it11:52
kbrooksno11:52
Amaranthkbrooks: if i had my hoary CD i'd boot up in rescue mode11:52
kbrookscooling11:52
Amaranthkbrooks: i don't have a crashed head11:52
kbrooksAmaranth: ah11:52
flyingpenguin900anywho... the reason I asked all those questions befor... was because my other computer was running an ATI card and I just put in an nvidia... now X won't start11:52
kbrooksAmaranth: sorry11:52
flyingpenguin900I need help uninstalled my fglrx drivers :(11:52
kbrooksAmaranth: what do you have11:53
kbrooksflyingpenguin900: no, you dont11:53
foxinessflyingpenguin900, xorgconfig11:53
Amaranthkbrooks: the partition table and/or FATs (or equivalent) are corrupted11:53
qt2delire, aye, that worked, but why was it being held back?11:53
delireoggah LuNaTiK^GuY http://img38.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img38&image=screen_lynucs_1759409500411796a9ba106_1.jpg11:53
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Amaranthi guess on ext3 it'd be a superblock11:53
LuNaTiK^GuYLinux is not ALL easy...but its improving....but we shouldnt expect it to be a Windows copy...although IMHO it should follow some guidelines11:53
flyingpenguin900background: I used fglrxconfig to config my xorg.conf, I also compiled my drivers from the xorg.rpm (someone helped me)11:53
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kbrooksflyingpenguin900: oh gosh11:54
LuNaTiK^GuYdelire: a pure Aqua :)11:54
flyingpenguin900foxiness, run xorgcinfig?11:54
kbrooksflyingpenguin900: WHO helped you?11:54
oggahdelire, thats a nice desktop. But guess it will be very sluggish.11:54
oggahslow.11:54
delireqt2: i don't know, i'd have to see the output. usually packages are 'held back' when they require another package to be installed /*first*/.11:54
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flyingpenguin900I think delire helped... or it was something close hold on I will check11:54
kbrooksflyingpenguin900: i'd like to beat the person who helped you up11:54
foxinessflyingpenguin900, yeah11:54
delireoggah: don't know. a decent graphics card, should be no problem. i however choose to go in the absolute other direction. i have personal issues with icons.11:55
LuNaTiK^GuYif its a theme on top of gnome/kde it will run just as fine i guess11:55
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LuNaTiK^GuYis the linux community fearing Longhorn a little bit?11:55
flyingpenguin900why whould you like to beet them?11:55
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LuNaTiK^GuYits like gonna be the BIG BANG from M$11:55
aruLuNaTiK^GuY: Longhorn is a myth11:56
Prof_FrinkLuNaTiK^GuY: s/longhorn/vista11:56
kbrooksflyingpenguin900: because rpm is incompatible with debian11:56
kbrooksannd ubuntu11:56
LuNaTiK^GuYy a myth?11:56
fndlonghorn, who cares11:56
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qt2delire, i see, thank you anyway.11:56
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LuNaTiK^GuYwot if by some remote chance...longhorn comes out to be this super-sable bomb as promised11:56
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flyingpenguin900kbrooks, I know that!!! ati only has rpms I hat to alien it11:56
kbrookshttp://www.winsupersite.com/11:56
LuNaTiK^GuYXP is already "Ok"11:57
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aruLuNaTiK^GuY: you mean like how XP got everyone to leave NT, 2000, and 98?11:57
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: "latest updates" on the left11:57
qt2LuNaTiK^GuY, maybe the envisioned version of vista held some weight, but what it's become is nothing special.11:57
foxinesswhy when i try to run (blam,BloGTK,F-spot) from user acoount not working that if i try sudo it will run ?!11:57
ksymsI tried to remove the '-nolisten' from the file /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc but X still starting with this option, what is the file I should edit so X will not start with nolisten?11:57
fndLuNaTiK^GuY: XP sucks donkeys, end off11:57
LuNaTiK^GuYfnd...example?11:58
kbrooksfnd: be nice11:58
fndhands off :)11:58
foxinessfnd, dont say suck to xp11:58
cafuegoand unless every PC users on the planet is going to buy a new 64bit multicore smp box with 4 GB ram, Longhorn won't run very well on their machines.11:58
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kbrookscafuego: LH == BLOATED PIECE OF CRAP11:58
LuNaTiK^GuYi wont buy that....is that really wot longhorn needs???????11:59
cafuegokbrooks: That's what I said.11:59
LuNaTiK^GuYpay attn to Bloated...MANY linux distros ARE bloated11:59
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kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: uh, no] 11:59
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cafuegoLuNaTiK^GuY: At some stage in the past there was talk about either it or whatever comes after it requiring a 4-way SMP box.11:59
foxinessfnd, can you think your grandma will use linux ?!11:59
kbrookscafuego: what's that?11:59
mdkedoes anyone know if I need a user to be in a particular group to be able to run a cronjob in hoary? I've made a crontab for a user and it is not getting run >_<11:59
kbrooksfoxiness: uh11:59
arudoes anyone know why that Will_ guy keeps getting nick collidded?11:59
mdkehelp!!11:59
kbrooksWAIT11:59

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