[12:00] <robotgeek> steven_, /etc/init.d/gdm stop , update-rc.d remove gdm
[12:00] <Neonlightning> i just got mine aswell
[12:00] <Night_Lord> go to edit>profiles
[12:00] <Davey> I was gonna give them away but now I'm not so sure :D
[12:00] <nickrud> steven_, there's the 'proper' way, and the shortcut. the shortcut is to rename /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm to K13gdm, and the proper way is to use invoke-rc.d
[12:00] <Night_Lord> select default, then click edit
[12:00] <weiers> MIK3MAN - do you ahve to configure or install?
[12:00] <Neonlightning> thats why i got 25 of them
[12:00] <Davey> I only got 6, 3 PPC and 3 x86 :(
[12:00] <Night_Lord> then go to effects, and set the transparency
[12:01] <Neonlightning> hey davey do you know how to add entries to /mnt/ in the liveboots
[12:01] <MIK3MAN> I just installed the latest java and azureus and I get this message < OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE  [/usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java = Error] 
[12:01] <MIK3MAN> >
[12:01] <MrGardenHoseMan> ahhh thank you!
[12:01] <Night_Lord> Hope that  MrGardenHoseMan
[12:01] <Davey> Neonlightning: not a clue
[12:01] <stodge> Anyone else getting lots of lockups with Firefox 1.02?
[12:01] <stodge> And I mean *lots*
[12:01] <MIK3MAN> weiers: I installed 1.5 and it said successful
[12:01] <Neonlightning> Davey, damn i'm trying to use this livecd to try and move around my files from an old mandrake install
[12:01] <Night_Lord> i installed kde, but wanna get rid of it, do i have to uninstall each component seperately with apt-get?
[12:02] <Night_Lord> gonna try putting key repeats back on
[12:02] <The_Vox> stodge: I moved to using a firefox from mozilla's site instead of the packaged one...it's pretty damn broken.
[12:02] <stodge> It is? damn
[12:02] <weiers> Sorry MIK3MAN, I had a succesful install of Java earlier in the day, so I could have told you how to isntall, but I am not able to troubleshoot what you ask about. Sorry. Still learning as well.
[12:02] <stodge> The same is true for Epiphany, which may not be a real surprise
[12:02] <Night_Lord> DDDDDAMMMMMMMMNNNIIIITTTTT!!!!!!
[12:03] <Night_Lord> ddddddiddddnnnnn''''t     wwwwoorrrrrrkkkkk
[12:03] <Neonlightning> lol
[12:03] <Rugmonster> steven_: I'm going to try just make gdm and xdm in /etc/init.d none executable
[12:03] <Night_Lord> ttttthhhhhhiiiss       aaaaaiiiiiiin''''''''t    ffffffunnnnnnnnnnnnnny yyyooooouuuuuu     kkkkkknnnnoooooow
[12:03] <Neonlightning> do it seems
[12:03] <Night_Lord> deeeeesssssrrrrttttttt??//???????     aaaaaannnyyy      iddddeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaas?//////
[12:03] <Neonlightning> ok why not just keep key repeat off
[12:04] <MIK3MAN> weiers: no problem, anyone else help?? azuerus dont like my java and I got it off the azuerus site, and I followed their directions... anyone???
[12:04] <Night_Lord> bbbbbbbbbuuuuuuuuttttttt       iiiiitttsssss     ccccoooooonnnnvvvvviiiiinnnnnnnnniiiiiieeeennntttt
[12:04] <Neonlightning> how often do you need it
[12:04] <seth_k> MIK3MAN, the only Java that's going to work is from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[12:04] <Night_Lord> ggggggggeeeeeeennnneeeeeeerrrrrraaaaalllllllllllyyy
[12:04] <MrGardenHoseMan> hmm it's only transparent to the desktop, not the browser like i hoped it to be :(
[12:04] <Night_Lord> hhhhhhmmmmmmmm.........      ttthhhheeeeeennnnnnn iuuuunnnnnnnnnoooooooo, sssssssssssooorrrrrryyyyyyyyy      ggggaaaaaarrrrrrrdddeeeeeeennnnnnhhhhhhhoooseeee
[12:04] <jurgonh_> What to do if i get this error message?: Package gstreamer-0.8 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gstreamer-0.8.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gstreamer-0.8' found configure: error: you need gstreamer development packages installed
[12:05] <stodge> God every third site I visit it hangs
[12:05] <MIK3MAN> I also tried synaptic and I cant install that way
[12:05] <othernoob> Night_Lord: you're not funny :p
[12:05] <meuserj|work> jurgonh_, install libgstreamer8.0-dev
[12:05] <Night_Lord> I'm not trying to be
[12:05] <Fidelio> robotgeek : you there?
[12:05] <Night_Lord> its a raly problem
[12:05] <jurgonh_> Thx..
[12:05] <Davey> who prints the CDs? I'd love to get some done up for my own stuff :D
[12:06] <NightLord> anyway, I don't find it amusing
[12:06] <NightLord> it always happens
[12:06] <Cooner750> ok. trying to resize my partition again
[12:06] <Cooner750> preying for no error..
[12:06] <Cooner750> of course. Right when I say it... "Error". Ugh
[12:07] <NightLord> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25574.html for unbelievers
[12:07] <Hunchback> evening, i have a question: how can i boot into an already installed ubuntu from the install cd? (yeah, windows overwrote the MBR and the grub diskette i created doesn't seem to work)
[12:07] <NightLord> make a live cd
[12:07] <kafeine> Davey, a large factory in the netherlands, if i remember correctly
[12:07] <Cooner750> "Error resizing/moving /dev/sda" or something like that
[12:08] <Hunchback> can't i use the install cd? other distro's have that ...
[12:08] <NightLord> then... i can't remembet exactly.. it involves using Chroot to mount the partition and install grub again
[12:08] <NightLord> You could reinstall and keep the partition data
[12:08] <NightLord> but then all custom settings go away
[12:08] <Hunchback> hmm
[12:08] <Hunchback> that's not good
[12:08] <Hunchback> bah
[12:08] <sputn1k> how to uninstall firefox??
[12:09] <Cooner750> I wish I could get my HD partitioned.... let me try QTParted
[12:09] <Hunchback> i just need to log into it so i can create a boot disk... :/
[12:09] <kolcvk> try to remove it from synaptic
[12:09] <kafeine> Cooner750, gparted is gtk+
[12:09] <sputn1k> from console i can't?
[12:09] <steven_> why do i get this when running update-rc.d gdm remove:   update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/gdm exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[12:09] <Hunchback> so there's no way to boot from the install cd?
[12:10] <kafeine> sputn1k, sudo apt-get remove firefox
[12:10] <NightLord> not that i know of
[12:10] <NightLord> sorry
[12:10] <steven_> should i use the f flag
[12:10] <stianj> what package in breezy has /usr/bin/xkbcomp these days?
[12:10] <stodge> Goddamit, going to have to revert to Fedora if this keeps up
[12:10] <NightLord> also: does anyone know, why, i jut rebooted ubuntu for the first time, and now whenever i select a menu, I have to hold the mouse button down, before i rebooted i just had to click
[12:10] <nickrud> Hunchback, maybe trying #4 in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47240 will work, on the face it looks ok.
[12:11] <Hunchback> nickrud: thanks, i will check it out now
[12:11] <NightLord> thats for kubuntu
[12:11] <robertj> there does need to be an apt-whereis filename
[12:12] <NightLord> yeah, hunchback
[12:12] <NightLord> thats what i did
[12:12] <CaptainMorgan> I having trouble getting IBM II ABG working on a Thinkpad, can someone point me in the right direction?
[12:13] <Hunchback> NightLord: it shouldn't be much different from normal ubuntu, right?
[12:13] <Hunchback> i mean kubutnu
[12:13] <Cooner750> is it just me, or does QTParted seem a little incomplete!?
[12:13] <stianj> what package in breezy has /usr/bin/xkbcomp these days?
[12:13] <CaptainMorgan> I ran Qt earlier today, seemed fine..
[12:14] <Cooner750> I mean the menus, like"&Resize"
[12:15] <derral_8> So breezy hasn't been officially release yet ?
[12:15] <kbrooks> derral_8: no
[12:15] <Rugmonster> derral_8: nope...my system is broke hard because of it
[12:15] <kbrooks> 3 more months or so
[12:15] <Rugmonster> derral_8: X won't start because of amissing font utility
[12:16] <derral_8> I'll stick with hoary
[12:16] <Cooner750> UGH! %^%$& error
[12:16] <Cooner750> How hard is it to resize a partition!?
[12:16] <Hunchback> Cooner750: kinda hard :p
[12:17] <Cooner750> yea, I wish I had Partition Magic for windows. Now THAT would be nice.
[12:17] <kbrooks> Cooner750: gparted
[12:17] <rgould> ls
[12:17] <rgould> bah
[12:17] <Cooner750> I get a error with that too
[12:17] <Hunchback> partition magic 8 is very nice
[12:17] <Cooner750> Hunchback: Yes I know, but it's shareware
[12:17] <Hunchback> *shrug*
[12:18] <Hunchback> use it, uninstall it
[12:18] <Hunchback> you don't resize your partitions dayly :)
[12:18] <Cooner750> I know, the trial version does not allow applying actions
[12:18] <Cooner750> so... it's kind of useless
[12:18] <CaptainMorgan> Partition magic is nice, but qt will do the job
[12:18] <Hunchback> k, gonna try that installation stuff etc
[12:18] <Hunchback> oh, yeah
[12:18] <steven_> can i stop apt-get install when it is downloadin the a package and restart the downloading of the same package later
[12:18] <Hunchback> well, get a crack then
[12:18] <kolcvk> Cooner750, use cracks ...
[12:18] <Hunchback> steven_: yes
[12:18] <kolcvk> (DC++)
[12:19] <kbrooks> NO
[12:19] <Hunchback> it even resumes :)
[12:19] <steven_> Hunchback, ok
[12:19] <kbrooks> omfg
[12:19] <nickrud> steven_, yes, apt does pretty well at resuming
[12:19] <kbrooks> Cooner750:
[12:19] <kbrooks> Cooner750:
[12:19] <kbrooks> Cooner750: gparted
[12:19] <Cooner750> gparted does not work for me eiter
[12:19] <Cooner750> either
[12:19] <kbrooks> Cooner750: use it
[12:19] <steven_> so shouold i only press crt+c
[12:19] <kbrooks> Cooner750: why?
[12:19] <Hunchback> steven_: yea
[12:19] <Cooner750> I get a $%^^&$%^ $% error just like QTParted
[12:20] <steven_> where can i find a good information about sed
[12:20] <Cooner750> I get stupid errors for no reason
[12:21] <kolcvk> Cooner750, download the Partition Magic from DC++
[12:21] <Cooner750> ?
[12:21] <kolcvk> (Under Win)
[12:21] <sputn1k> how can i fix it: dpkg: error processing mozilla-firefox (--install):
[12:21] <sputn1k>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:21] <sputn1k> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:21] <sputn1k>  mozilla-firefox
[12:21] <Ubuntu> whats up everyone
[12:21] <Cooner750> ok. better get back on topic. (it it a Ubuntu channel after all.)
[12:22] <kolcvk> :))
[12:22] <Cooner750> booting windows
[12:22] <steven_> can i create another lookup like 127.0.0.2
[12:22] <nerdgirl> sputnlk: actually, had a similar question.  the package manager update keeps wanting me to update to firefox 1.0.2.  Thing is, I already have FF1.0.5
[12:22] <maci> hm somehow my spacebar doesnt work in x anymore .. it worked yesterday .. and on my other VCs in bash it still works
[12:22] <kolcvk> steven_  what kind of lookup ?
[12:23] <kolcvk> DNS ?
[12:23] <weitao> you must edit the ff prefences
[12:23] <weitao> just try: about:blank
[12:23] <weitao> get general...
[12:23] <bina> what package must I install to get PHP4 to interface with MySQL?
[12:23] <steven_> like i just want to play with ssh and networking programs
[12:23] <maci> anyone ever had that problem too ?
[12:24] <nerdgirl> weitao: you talking to me?
[12:24] <weitao> yes
[12:24] <nerdgirl> I don't think it's an issue with firefox.  It's that Ubuntu doesn't realize that I have a more recent version.
[12:24] <weitao> i made a mistake
[12:25] <nalioth> !firefox
[12:25] <weitao> you should try about:config
[12:25] <nerdgirl> For that matter, why is Ubuntu trying to update people to 1.0.2 now?  1.0.5 has been out for at least a month.
[12:25] <nalioth> dammit
[12:25] <gigaclon> can anyone get the stream here (http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=2&prgDate=07-20-2005&view=storyview) to play in ubuntu?
[12:26] <concept10> nalioth, it the bot down today?
[12:26] <nalioth> whats the bots trigger for firefox?
[12:26] <weitao> general.useragent.vendorSub
[12:26] <nalioth> no,  I am down
[12:26] <weitao> change it into 1.5
[12:26] <wdh> nerdgirl, ubuntu patches an already released version with security patches only..
[12:26] <seth_k> !firefox
[12:26] <seth_k> isn't it?
[12:26] <seth_k> nope
[12:26] <nalioth> i'm suffering from CRS
[12:26] <wdh> nerdgirl, so no new versions of any software after release..
[12:26] <nalioth> or somebody removed the factoid
[12:26] <concept10> CRS?
[12:27] <concept10> I tried to put something in the bot it wouldnt take
[12:27] <Rugmonster> wdh: I hate to say it, but every release of firefox since 1.0.2 has addressed security issues
[12:27] <seth_k> ubotu forget firefox
[12:27] <ubotu> i forgot firefox, seth_k
[12:27] <nalioth> concept10: can't remember shtuff
[12:27] <nerdgirl> wdh: thanks.  however, I still need to convince ubuntu that I don't need anything for 1.0.2
[12:27] <nalioth> seth_k: no no
[12:27] <nalioth> seth_k: it works
[12:27] <nalioth> seth_k: make him remember
[12:27] <wdh> Rugmonster, true.. but ubuntu just takes those security patches and includes them in the 1.0.2 version..
[12:27] <seth_k> ubotu firefox is not the newest version available as seen on mozilla.org. However, all the security fixes are "backported" into Ubuntu's version. So although your Firefox is up-to-date, its version number is lower than the current release. To install themes or extensions, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub to "1.0.6"
[12:27] <ubotu> seth_k: okay
[12:27] <zerboxx> Can anyone tell me what to do to fix this problem: "http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/709"
[12:27] <Rugmonster> wdh: ah
[12:28] <mbirkis> will maya unlimited 6.5 work in ubuntu??
[12:28] <nerdgirl> seth_k: thanks... That'll at least let me update in the future.
[12:28] <wdh> Rugmonster, actually firefox is just one of a kind.. its a protection of the stability of ubuntu actually.. usually new software comes with new features.. and therefore new bugs..
[12:28] <nerdgirl> seth_k: that is, update my extensions, etc.
[12:29] <roger> cc
[12:30] <bina> anyone know what package I need to install to connect to a mySQL database through PHP?  I cant find php-mysql anywhere and I have the client and server both installed
[12:31] <gigaclon> can anyone get the stream here (http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=2&prgDate=07-20-2005&view=storyview) to play in ubuntu?
[12:31] <gigaclon> i can't
[12:32] <Rugmonster> bina: connect to it via a script or just administer it through a php client like phpmyadmin?
[12:32] <hondje> gigaclon: yes
[12:32] <robotgeek> damn no script!!! crashed my browser, again!
[12:32] <xquizit> Hi, im having troubles with xorg in breezy. I have looked in the forums and it still doesnt want to work.
[12:32] <Rugmonster> robotgeek: I wish I had a browser other than links right now
[12:32] <nerdgirl> gigaclon: do you have a linux version of Real?
[12:32] <bina> Rugmonster: Well, atm Im just trying to connect through phpMyAdmin
[12:32] <bina> it says It cant load the extensions
[12:33] <occy> I've got an external raid array that has dual power sources.  (two power cables)  I was wondering if I could have it hooked up to my desktop [it's an old 120G raid array]  and power it on and off when I want to transfer files.  I don't want to have to pay the electricity to have it constantly on.
[12:33] <robotgeek> Rugmonster, lynx is good :)
[12:33] <Rugmonster> bina: look for php3-mysql or php4-mysql, depending on what version of php you are running
[12:34] <concept10> has anyone installed nvu 1.0 yet?
[12:34] <Rugmonster> bina: those are the package names
[12:34] <gigaclon> I have the linux version of real
[12:34] <Rugmonster> robotgeek: links is better (supports frames and tables)
[12:34] <gigaclon> hondje, nerdgirl it freeze when i try to play it
[12:34] <bina> Rugmonster: apt-cache search php4-mysql doesnt show any results
[12:34] <xquizit> my xorg config looks fine. it's just when I start gdm my screen will flicker about 3 times then go back to the console without any errors. I also tried "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:35] <Rugmonster> bina: I have a couple extra repositories...just a second
[12:35] <roger> #ububu.no
[12:35] <hondje> gigaclon: yeah, it just did that to me too
[12:35] <hondje> not real, but the mozilla mplayer plugin
[12:35] <othernoob> bina: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38  edit your /etc/apt/sources.list with this
[12:36] <Rugmonster> bina: yeah, I'm using the backports repositories. If they aren't in the default, try backports
[12:36] <kbrooks> othernoob:
[12:36] <othernoob> bina: then run it again, should give you the result then
[12:36] <nerdgirl> gigaclon: I'm downloading RealPlayer 10, and I'll try it out.  www.real.com takes you straight to a linux version (.bin or .rpm).
[12:36] <kbrooks> Rugmonster:
[12:36] <othernoob> kbrooks:
[12:36] <Rugmonster> kbrooks:
[12:36] <bina> othernoob, Rugmonster: nice one Ill add them to my repos.  Thanks
[12:36] <kbrooks> backports shouldnt be used daily
[12:36] <kbrooks> bina: ^^^^^
[12:36] <Webwiz> is there any way of making ubuntu install all the dependencies for gaim to compile it
[12:36] <Rugmonster> why?
[12:36] <othernoob> kbrooks: why not?
[12:37] <nalioth> Webwiz: yes, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get build-dep gaim"
[12:37] <kbrooks> Webwiz: yes. apt-get build-dep gaim
[12:37] <Heart_> hm, eclipse is not in any repository?!
[12:37] <Webwiz> thank you everybody
[12:37] <Webwiz> you are all wonderfull people
[12:37] <kbrooks> nalioth: you're the know it all on backports
[12:37] <Rugmonster> kbrooks: why should backports (or a backports mirror) be used "daily"?
[12:37] <kbrooks> Rugmonster: shouldnt*
[12:38] <epitron> what's you's-guys' favorite email program which has bayesian spam filtering?
[12:38] <Rugmonster> s/should/shouldn't/...jesus
[12:38] <gigaclon> gmail
[12:38] <gigaclon> or thunderbird
[12:38] <epitron> gmail is pretty sweet :)
[12:38] <bina> should I enable the Universe repos while im here?
[12:38] <nalioth> bina: enable uni and multi, you'll have more fun
[12:38] <epitron> gigaclon: see, thunderbird was weird though. it only had binary scores
[12:38] <kbrooks> Rugmonster: because you will break your system (sooner or) later
[12:38] <Rugmonster> bina: oh yeah, I use the universe and multiverse
[12:38] <othernoob> kbrooks: why
[12:39] <bina> nalioth: sweet :)
[12:39] <epitron> gigaclon: that kinda sucks. you want 3 categories: for-sure-spam, for-sure-not-spam, and maybe-spam-or-not-spam
[12:39] <lamp_> n8
[12:39] <kbrooks> othernoob: why what?
[12:39] <Rugmonster> kbrooks: it doesn't matter. My system is already broken right now because I didn't read up on breezy before doing a dist-upgrade
[12:39] <bina> cant find multiverse in here :)
[12:39] <Rugmonster> bina: add it
[12:39] <Rugmonster> bina: after universe
[12:39] <othernoob> kbrooks:  Rugmonster: because you will break your system (sooner or) later  <<why
[12:39] <kbrooks> nalioth!!!
[12:39] <epitron> Rugmonster: what's wrong with breezy? i was just about to upgrade myself :)
[12:40] <epitron> Rugmonster: could you gimme the url to read up on it?
[12:40] <nalioth> kbrooks: what!!!???
[12:40] <Rugmonster> epitron: go to the ubuntuforums.org and then under the dev section, there is a section for breezy. Read the sticky about "Don't upgrade for the next couple of weeks".
[12:40] <bina> Rugmonster: where can I get the details on them?
[12:41] <Rugmonster> bina: ubuntuguide.org
[12:41] <bina> Rugmonster: cool thanks
[12:41] <epitron> Rugmonster: awesome :D
[12:41] <kbrooks> othernoob: too many libraries rely on programs and vice versa and you wont be able to upgrade to breezy
[12:42] <kbrooks> othernoob: with all those libraries lying around.
[12:42] <Rugmonster> Also, the kernel that comes with breezy, 2.6.12, has a bad prism54 driver. It will error out on my wlan and then lock the entire system. no kernel panic or anything, just hard freeze
[12:42] <nalioth> now it begins
[12:42] <NightLord> can someone help with a small problem?
[12:42] <othernoob> kbrooks: heh, apparently, one shouldn't upgrade to breezy anyway :p so that's not the best reason ;)
[12:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is epiphany any good?
[12:43] <bina> lol, othernoob, only just realised that was a paste link :) added it to my source list :)
[12:43] <kbrooks> othernoob: that was a example
[12:43] <Rugmonster> kbrooks: I didn't have any issues with dependencies when upgrading to breezy. Just broken packages
[12:43] <othernoob> lol
[12:43] <bina> its far too late
[12:43] <Xyc0> anyone know the command to start esd with out that annoying sound test?
[12:43] <Rugmonster> kbrooks: my main problem with X is that it is missing the utility to compile the fonts. Something to do with the restructure of x.org
[12:44] <epitron> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i like opera myself :D
[12:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> k
[12:44] <concept10> Has anyone seen a ubuntu .deb for Nvu 1.0?
[12:45] <Rugmonster> my slackware install disks need to hurry up downloading
[12:46] <craigevil> anyone know how to get the program menu in Icewm to show programs
[12:46] <Rugmonster> does icewm support .desktop files?
[12:47] <bina> hooray, all is well again.  Thanks all
[12:47] <NightLord> anyone know why after my first reboot, if i want a menu to come open, i have to hold the mouse down, before i only had to click?
[12:47] <craigevil> iit works just fine on my Debian Sid box, but on my laptop with Ubuntu the menu is empty
[12:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wow that browser is great
[12:47] <Rugmonster> craigevil: well, ubuntu tries to hide the debian menu. That may be part of the issue
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> Grr... installed ubuntu on my new laptop.. it booted.. then let me login.. then played some noise (wrongly) then hung. :P lol
[12:48] <Rugmonster> I'll be back. I have to get food and cd-r's so i can fix my laptop
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> but the fact it got that far is good. :P
[12:49] <dsl946> damn im screwed
[12:50] <ColonelKernel> I have disabled ipv6 support and even taken it out of my kernel, yet I still get slow DNS response time (only the first connect to that domain) in ubuntu - can anyone please help
[12:50] <|rockinnerd|> damn im screwed
[12:50] <|rockinnerd|> my fstab is screwed up
[12:50] <ColonelKernel> this distro is so cool expect for this horrid dns problem
[12:51] <epitron> if i want to try out kde on hoary, is there a nice metapackage and/or apt source i can use?
[12:51] <|rockinnerd|> epitron, kubuntu-desktop
[12:51] <epitron> rockin'!
[12:51] <epitron> :)
[12:51] <|rockinnerd|> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:51] <epitron> it's ok, i know how to use apt-get
[12:51] <epitron> <- ninja
[12:51] <|rockinnerd|> lol
[12:52] <epitron> me using the word "metapackage" should've tipped you off ;)
[12:52] <|rockinnerd|> not only that, but when i reboot in single-user mode, i open FSTAB and get a bunch of ^@'s
[12:52] <dave_> hi all
[12:52] <|rockinnerd|> that's what i get for using a gui text editor, i suppose...
[12:52] <epitron> ouch
[12:52] <epitron> did it coredump while you were using it or something?
[12:52] <|rockinnerd|> nope
[12:52] <ztonzy> hey :)
[12:53] <epitron> wow, kubuntu-desktop is like 50% python packages
[12:53] <epitron> :)
[12:53] <|rockinnerd|> something like an error with the last line (which i added because i'm so cool) and "No newline @ end of file"
[12:53] <robert_pectol> ColonelKernel:   What is listed in your /etc/resolv.conf file?  Are all entries reachable?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> what did you edit the fstab with?
[12:54] <|rockinnerd|> Does this look right: /dev/hda1 /windows ntfs ro,uid=chris, 0 0
[12:54] <|rockinnerd|> Kwrite
[12:54] <NuuB> i just installed hoary hedgehog - i installed LAMP also and mod_perl - i allowed .cgi and .pl cgi's to run outside the cgi-bin in apache2.conf with "AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .pl" - but when i run the cgi i get a 403 Forbidden - the cgi works fine from the command line - the cgi's permissions are 755 and the user and group are root (after trying it with my default user/group) ----> where do i have my permissions wrong?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> uid  wants a ### i think
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> not the name of the user
[12:54] <epitron> |rockinnerd|: looks good to me
[12:54] <ColonelKernel> robert_pectol, yes this only happens in Ubuntu, I had deb sarge on about an hour ago and it worked great
[12:54] <mumbles> back
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> not sure on thtat :P i always put in the users uid#
[12:54] <ColonelKernel> if I boot into windows it works fine too
[12:54] <epitron> |rockinnerd|: you have an extra comma after chris, but it probably doesn't matter
[12:54] <|rockinnerd|> it substitues it
[12:54] <|rockinnerd|> what about
[12:55] <|rockinnerd|> "No final newline at end"
[12:55] <epitron> |rockinnerd|: what's telling you that?
[12:55] <|rockinnerd|> DSL doesn't have JFS support :-(
[12:55] <NuuB> what is JFS?
[12:56] <|rockinnerd|> epitron: idk, it just shows it on bootup, it tries to go through the various scripts in rcS.d or whatever, but it fails
[12:56] <|rockinnerd|> !jfs
[12:56] <ubotu> |rockinnerd|: I don't know
[12:56] <ztonzy> anyone using both ubuntu and debian?
[12:56] <|rockinnerd|> Journaled File System
[12:56] <robert_pectol> ColonelKernel:   Try this, first, remove the first entry (if there are 2) from your /etc/resolv.conf file and comment out the, "search" option.  Then do a, "dig somedomain.com" and see if you still get the delay.
[12:56] <ColonelKernel> there is no search option
[12:56] <robert_pectol> ok
[12:57] <ColonelKernel> and the dns servers work just fine on every other distro and windows xp currently.
[12:57] <poningru> hi I ran across a file with .mar
[12:57] <Xyc0> You've used EVERY OTHER DISTRO? Wow
[12:57] <poningru> what is that?
[12:57] <poningru> just curious
[12:57] <robert_pectol> I see.  I was just making sure that you weren't just seeing a temporary glitch with the first DNS server in the list.  That would have explained the lag.
[12:58] <concept10> ColonelKernel, my bodyguard from last night!
[12:58] <epitron> |rockinnerd|: hrm.. maybe you should try a python script i wrote...
[12:58] <desrt> pfah
[12:58] <desrt> i've had all distributions installed, at the same time
[12:58] <ColonelKernel> ok works fine w gnetoo, fedora, debian, and windows xp
[12:58] <darkmatter> stonzy:yeh
[12:58] <|rockinnerd|> desrt, impossible.
[12:58] <Xyc0> well, there are alot more distros then just those
[12:58] <desrt> |rockinnerd|; not so much... there was really just SLS....
[12:58] <darkmatter> Hoary and Sid
[12:58] <Xyc0> Puppy Linux being the best
[12:59] <|rockinnerd|> oh..
[12:59] <radiodog> is there a amd64 ubuntu channel?
[12:59] <Xyc0> who here thinks puppy linux rox?
[12:59] <robert_pectol> ColonelKernel:   You don't have some extremely large or messed up hosts file do you?
[12:59] <radiodog> s/a/an
[12:59] <|rockinnerd|> -1
[12:59] <Xyc0> radiodog: yea, this one
[12:59] <ColonelKernel> robert_pectol, no, two lines with two nameservers
[12:59] <|rockinnerd|> s/-1/no
[12:59] <ColonelKernel> robert_pectol, it is set via chcp
[12:59] <ColonelKernel> dhcp
[12:59] <Xyc0> static if you doing server
[01:00] <robert_pectol> Um... your /etc/hosts file?
[01:00] <Xyc0> make life easier
[01:00] <ColonelKernel> oh no
[01:00] <ColonelKernel> hosts is only one line
[01:00] <ColonelKernel> 127.0.0.1
[01:00] <robert_pectol> Ok, just checkin :-)
[01:00] <ColonelKernel> 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       p4ht
[01:00] <ColonelKernel> I commented out all those ipv6 lines
[01:01] <ColonelKernel> I also tunes off the ipv6 module in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:01] <|rockinnerd|> uncomment it maybe
[01:01] <ColonelKernel> net-pf-10 or something like htat
[01:01] <ColonelKernel> OH NO
[01:01] <ColonelKernel> maybe I didnt uncomment it!
[01:01] <|rockinnerd|> uncommnt it.
[01:01] <robert_pectol> ColonelKernel:   are you from Brasil?
[01:01] <ColonelKernel> it isnt commented
[01:01] <|rockinnerd|> oh.
[01:02] <ColonelKernel> none of that stuff was
[01:02] <ColonelKernel> robert_pectol, no
[01:02] <|rockinnerd|> turn on ipv6
[01:02] <ColonelKernel> why would I want to turn it on?
[01:02] <Xyc0> Anyone know of the project that uses files as keys to login to your computer?
[01:02] <robert_pectol> I thought maybe the p4ht was an amateur radio callsign - and I thought that looked like a Brazillian callsign...
[01:02] <|rockinnerd|> It probably is required; just try it
[01:02] <robert_pectol> My bad!
[01:02] <ColonelKernel> it worked like crap before when it was turned on, and it still works like crap
[01:02] <|rockinnerd|> Maybe your DNS server is down
[01:03] <ColonelKernel> naw this is just an irc nick
[01:03] <robert_pectol> I see!
[01:03] <ColonelKernel> it isnt down for debian and windowsXP clients.
[01:03] <|rockinnerd|> dhcpcd?
[01:04] <epitron> |rockinnerd|: http://epitaph.darkillustrated.org/tounix.py
[01:04] <ColonelKernel> this is a client, not a server box
[01:04] <epitron> there we go. that thing fixes files with weird line endings.
[01:04] <slask3n> Anyone knows how to enable/install the driver they talk about in this quote: "The standard usb mic driver in the kernel works for the built in microphone as well." ?
[01:04] <|rockinnerd|> Colonelkernel, just run it
[01:04] <epitron> it also converts tabs to spaces, but you don't need that probably
[01:04] <ColonelKernel> |rockinnerd|, no.
[01:04] <|rockinnerd|> colonelkernel, it's _NOT_ the server program
[01:05] <ColonelKernel> |rockinnerd|, dhcpd IS the dhcp server program.
[01:05] <BockBilbo> hello
[01:05] <|rockinnerd|> d h c p c d
[01:05] <Xyc0> hello
[01:05] <BockBilbo> i need someone's advice relating to vmware
[01:05] <|rockinnerd|> not d h c p d
[01:05] <BockBilbo> anyone has tried it?
[01:05] <|rockinnerd|> note the 2nd C
[01:08] <ColonelKernel> ok trying that out now, ill let you know how it works
[01:11] <BockBilbo> see, ive got a dual boot system, in which hda1 is for windows and hda5 for ubuntu
[01:11] <BockBilbo> im thinking on removing windows... is it possible to move ubuntu to the hda1 partition keeping all the config?
[01:12] <epitron> BockBilbo: you don't need to move it... just resize it :)
[01:12] <epitron> it'll work fine as hda5
[01:12] <wdh> ColonelKernel, tried 'dhclient'?
[01:12] <epitron> just nuke hda1, then resize hda5 to use up the now-freed space
[01:12] <nalioth> BockBilbo: just turn hda1 into /home/newfoldername or something
[01:13] <epitron> or you could copy everything from one partition to the other, like nalioth says :)
[01:13] <BockBilbo> but
[01:13] <epitron> i like a partition magic bootdisk though. it's less work
[01:13] <BockBilbo> the problem is that hda1 is a primary partition and hda5 a logic partition
[01:13] <kolcvk> ....
[01:13] <epitron> if you're using grub, that's not a problem
[01:14] <BockBilbo> well true...
[01:14] <epitron> grub sees all
[01:14] <ColonelKernel> i think installing dhcpcd did the trick - thank you
[01:14] <BockBilbo> yes...
[01:14] <xhaker> how can i extract 7zip files in ubuntu?
[01:14] <epitron> it's not even the primary/logical thing that's a problem though.
[01:14] <Wckdkl0wn> has anyone ever messed around with linux bnx bot?
[01:14] <kolcvk> BockBilbo, dont forget to convert it (hda1) to ext3fs (from ntfs)
[01:14] <epitron> the only problem is when the partition is more than 1024 blocks into the device or something
[01:14] <BockBilbo> kolcvk, my win partition is fat
[01:14] <BockBilbo> ;)
[01:14] <epitron> but, again, grub doesn't care
[01:14] <kolcvk> yes
[01:14] <kolcvk> :)
[01:15] <BockBilbo> epitron, so, what should i do?
[01:15] <SogniX> hey - anyone here know about theming in gnome? I'm trying to figure out how to change a color and don't know where :p
[01:15] <ColonelKernel> James Doohan, the actor best known as Star Trek's Scotty, has died at 85. His last wish, his agent announced last night, was for his ashes to be fired into space.
[01:15] <kolcvk> BockBilbo, just kill win ...
[01:15] <BockBilbo> xD
[01:15] <kolcvk> and use free space
[01:15] <kolcvk> :)
[01:15] <BockBilbo> but
[01:16] <bahblahblahbah> hi
[01:16] <kolcvk> what but ?
[01:16] <BockBilbo> i would like to have ubuntu on hda1
[01:16] <BockBilbo> and have it mixed with the space of the actual windows partition
[01:16] <kolcvk> what difference ?
[01:16] <BockBilbo> that i dont want 2 partitions, i just want one
[01:17] <kolcvk> just resize hda5 and leave it there
[01:17] <kolcvk> BockBilbo, you can resize
[01:17] <kolcvk> e.g. append
[01:17] <kolcvk> :
[01:17] <kolcvk> :)
[01:17] <xhaker> i ask again... how to extract 7zip on ubuntu?
[01:17] <BockBilbo> but, i would have to leave hda1 as an small partitinn
[01:17] <BockBilbo> right?
[01:17] <kolcvk> xhaker,  try through wine
[01:17] <kolcvk> nope
[01:18] <kolcvk> (by downloading the windows version)
[01:18] <xhaker> kolcvk, found another way
[01:18] <xhaker> p7zip
[01:18] <kolcvk> BockBilbo, after resizing you will have only one partition
[01:19] <BockBilbo> kolcvk, yes
[01:19] <slask3n> are there any usb mic drivers in ubuntu?
[01:19] <kolcvk> thats hda5
[01:19] <BockBilbo> sure??
[01:19] <BockBilbo> i think it will be renamed to hda1
[01:19] <kolcvk> 98%
[01:19] <kolcvk> maybe
[01:19] <kolcvk> but all your data will remain intact
[01:19] <BockBilbo> maybe?... i think i went through this before
[01:19] <BockBilbo> i knoe that kolcvk but i might not boot
[01:20] <kolcvk> :)
[01:20] <BockBilbo> and i would need to use a live cd to fix it
[01:20] <kolcvk> GRUB is in MBR
[01:20] <kolcvk> ?
[01:20] <BockBilbo> yes
[01:20] <kolcvk> so don't worry ?
[01:20] <kolcvk> so don't worry *
[01:20] <kolcvk> :)
[01:20] <bimberi> xhaker: apparently file-roller should be able to do it - no personal experience though
[01:21] <BockBilbo> ok kolcvk
[01:21] <kolcvk> if GRUB's in MBR then your system will boot normally , am i right epitron ?
[01:21] <BockBilbo> kolcvk, it wont
[01:21] <BockBilbo> it my partition switches to hda1 instead of hda5
[01:21] <mika5> Hello.  I just applied the latest update from Ubuntu update manager, and now it looks like it broke something.  Trying to download anything in Firefox seems to wait and then nothing.  It doesn't give me the save-as dialog or any error messages.
[01:21] <kolcvk> that doesnt matter
[01:22] <kolcvk> GRUB recognises partitions
[01:22] <jayjay05> i havw a problem installing linux amd 64 i have a mamd anthlon
[01:22] <BockBilbo> cause it tries to find the initrd archives inside hda5/boot
[01:22] <kolcvk> and then check
[01:22] <nalioth> BockBilbo: dont mess with your partitions
[01:22] <jayjay05> amd*
[01:22] <kolcvk> if the part. is bootable
[01:22] <BockBilbo> nalioth, I need to mess with my partitions
[01:22] <nalioth> BockBilbo: wipe windows, replace with ext3 and mount it under /home/bockbilbo/whatevernameyouwant
[01:22] <abarbaccia> hey all - is there any sort of program that will id3 my music tracks nicely?
[01:22] <nalioth> BockBilbo: that way your grub doesnt go crazy
[01:23] <nalioth> abarbaccia: easytag
[01:23] <kolcvk> jayjay05, do you have AMD Athlon 64 ?
[01:23] <jayjay05> it says like canot some long mode
[01:23] <BockBilbo> but, if i still want to mess with the partitions, is is possible to modify all the simlinks to hda5 to point hda1?
[01:24] <kolcvk> nalioth, you are right , but he wanna 1 part.
[01:24] <nalioth> BockBilbo: do what you feel you must
[01:24] <kolcvk> jayjay05, do you have AMD Athlon 64 ?
[01:24] <cw2> what might cause mplayer to say the following when trying to play a dvd: (too much to paste) http://pastebin.ca/18250
[01:25] <BockBilbo> ok nalioth
[01:25] <BockBilbo> thanks
[01:27] <mrd`> mdz: poke poke :)
[01:27] <darkmatter> hi
[01:27] <mdz> mrd`: apt-get --reinstall -o dpkg::options::=--force-confmiss <package>
[01:27] <mdz> s/^/sudo /
[01:27] <kolcvk> as i recall AMD Athlon XP was 32 bit ?
[01:28] <cw2> kolcvk: correct
[01:28] <kolcvk> :)
[01:28] <cw2> also known as K7
[01:28] <mrd`> s/--reinstall/reinstall/ ?
[01:28] <kolcvk> jayjay05 tried to install amd64 version :))
[01:28] <mrd`> Hrm...
[01:28] <losty> hi, does anyone know any free partition programs out there?
[01:28] <aurax> anyone here got unrealircd installed?
[01:28] <cw2> losty: fdisk?
[01:28] <mrd`> install --reinstall
[01:28] <silveruno> thanks kolcvk for the help in private. ;-)
[01:28] <crimsun> losty, parted and its frontends
[01:29] <kolcvk> :)
[01:29] <losty> sry im new..
[01:29] <mrd`> mdz: Thanks.
[01:29] <losty> fdisk will partition?
[01:29] <cw2> cfdisk
[01:29] <kolcvk> fdisk is a DOS programm
[01:29] <kolcvk> :)
[01:29] <cw2> yeah, cfdisk is easier to use though
[01:29] <mdz> mrd`: right, I really should fix that syntax; even I find it awkward
[01:29] <cw2> there's a linux fdisk too
[01:29] <silveruno> how do i know i my installation is up to date ?
[01:30] <kolcvk> cw2, Partition Magic will be more easier
[01:30] <kolcvk> :)
[01:30] <losty> im trying to insall ubuntu
[01:30] <kolcvk> silveruno, run
[01:30] <losty> but not getting any luck finding a partition prgram
[01:30] <losty> il give fdisk a try
[01:30] <kolcvk> System Administration > Ubuntu Update Manager
[01:30] <cw2> losty: the installer can create and delete partitions
[01:30] <kolcvk> click Update
[01:30] <funkyHat> losty, gparted, or kparted if you prefer KDE
[01:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> installs point2play
[01:30] <losty> cw2: are you sure? i dont want to lose my data
[01:31] <cw2> losty: if you need to resize a partition, check out parted, though you may have to go with partition magic (not free)
[01:31] <kolcvk> pardon : click Install
[01:31] <kolcvk> :)
[01:31] <losty> funkyHat: im just starting linux..
[01:31] <ptlo> is somebody into video production on linux? i'd need a simple video editing program (like pitivi, except that it's alpha) with just basic features - creating a movie out of clips/stills and adding the music. i'm running hoary. could you recommend some utility for doing this?
[01:31] <funkyHat> oh, you're installing... no gui... ignore me :$
[01:31] <nalioth> ptlo: cinepaint?
[01:32] <cw2> losty: although, Xandros's installer will resize, you can get their OCE for free (but you'll have to download the whole cd) but it's not free-free, just beer-free
[01:32] <Xyc0> How do i get Ubuntu to recognize when I close and open my laptop screen?
[01:32] <kolcvk> :))
[01:32] <losty> cw2: ahh ok
[01:32] <silveruno> kolcvk > does the updatemanager check if the system is up to date, on the net, or on the install CD i have ?
[01:32] <kolcvk> on the net offcourse
[01:32] <kolcvk> :)
[01:32] <Discipulus> silveruno, it checks the repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:32] <soultaker> hello to all
[01:32] <tritium> Xyc0, edit /etc/default/acpi-support, uncomment the line "#ACPI_SLEEP=true"
[01:33] <kolcvk> hi soultaker
[01:33] <losty> cw2: im really lost to partitioning my drive. i just want something simple really..
[01:33] <soultaker> i need help how can i make doual boot in my Pc I have diferent HD for Linux and XP
[01:33] <soultaker> how can i configure the Grub _.
[01:34] <tritium> Xyc0, then, the easiest thing is to reboot.  You may have to play with other options in that file to get it working right.  (I had to comment out POST_VIDEO=true)
[01:34] <losty> cw2: parted if for linux, im using win XP
[01:34] <losty> is*
[01:34] <tritium> Xyc0, more info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryPM
[01:34] <soultaker> i em Newby i dont know much of linux
[01:34] <jmspeex> Are there any standard package sources for apt that aren't in sources.list?
[01:34] <jmspeex> In other words, any place I can get packages that are in debian, but that I can't find in ubuntu?
[01:34] <soultaker> thank you
[01:35] <Xyc0> tritium: Awsome, thanks all i needed was a push in the right direction
[01:35] <tritium> Xyc0, :)
[01:35] <darkmatter> soultaker: grub is configured through menu.lst
[01:35] <tritium> dinner...
[01:35] <soultaker> darkmatter thank you
[01:36] <soultaker> darkmatter what are the steeps to configurated ?
[01:37] <mrd`> Sigh, still no working caps/ctrl swap.
[01:37] <ptlo> nalioth, hmm, cinepant seems like a image editor/retouch utility, not a movie-maker (which i'd need)
[01:38] <nalioth> ptlo: i'm not sure if there is anything like imovie or such
[01:39] <soultaker> go it thank you
[01:39] <soultaker> let me try
[01:40] <darkmatter> soultaker:man grub it will explain
[01:41] <ptlo> nalioth, hmm i've stumbled upon kino, there's ubuntu package for it, so i'll try that. thanks for the help, anyways
[01:41] <nalioth> ptlo: i'm not much into linux + multimedia (i have several macintosh' for that)
[01:41] <silveruno> how can i change the language my ubuntu uses, seams eazyer if it was running in english, than Danish, when i get help here
[01:43] <coolkev> ubuntu keeps accessing my harddisk for no reason... like i tested it.. after my computer loaded i left it idle and i keep hearing every 5-10 seconds ubuntu access my hard drisk
[01:43] <ptlo> nalioth, lucky you :-) i'm not into that much myself, i'd just want to play a bit with clips recorded with my mobile phone .. nothing fancy :)
[01:43] <coolkev> this is the reason why my hard drisk get so hot for no reason..
[01:43] <zukalk> coolkev, that was probably updatedb running
[01:43] <nalioth> ptlo: ah, well linux isnt known for its video editing
[01:43] <nickrud> silveruno, if you set up english during the install, you can log out select english under language
[01:44] <coolkev> zukalk: huh?
[01:44] <zukalk> coolkev, man updatedb
[01:44] <nickrud> s/select/then select/
[01:44] <coolkev> evey right now
[01:44] <coolkev> even*
[01:44] <cw2> losty: use a linux live cd, you won't find anything free for windows
[01:44] <coolkev> all i'm doing is being on x-chat and i hear linux accessing hd
[01:44] <losty> cw2: ok il try it
[01:44] <silveruno> nickrud >ok, ill check that out when the update is finished.
[01:45] <coolkev> and one of them is not even mounted and it's still getting hot
[01:45] <cw2> losty: make backups
[01:45] <kolcvk> proper
[01:45] <kolcvk> :)
[01:45] <zukalk> coolkev, run 'top' and see what's causing that
[01:45] <cw2> coolkev: many modern hd's get hot
[01:45] <kolcvk> mine's too
[01:45] <kolcvk> :)
[01:45] <cw2> coolkev: it's just the way it is
[01:45] <kolcvk> yeap
[01:46] <kolcvk> :)
[01:46] <Tyreses> Id just like to say thanks for shipping me my ubuntu :D im very satisfied
[01:46] <coolkev> even when they are not being accessed and used?
[01:46] <kolcvk> coolkev, yeaj
[01:46] <mumbles> bed for me
[01:46] <kolcvk> yeah *
[01:46] <kolcvk> :)
[01:46] <mumbles> nn all
[01:46] <coolkev> like i have one resierfs drive and i never even mounted it and it's getting hot
[01:46] <zukalk> mumbles, bye
[01:46] <cw2> coolkev: yes, the spindle motor is what gets hot
[01:46] <nalioth> now proceeding with the sarge netinst
[01:46] <nalioth> on the imac
[01:46] <pbiegaj> hey all
[01:47] <coolkev> zukalk i'm in top thingy and it's showing a bunch of things... what in pirticular am i looking for?
[01:47] <pbiegaj> can anyone help me out with a problem i'm having regarding ndiswrapper and a mini pci broadcom wireless card
[01:47] <pbiegaj> ?
[01:47] <kolcvk> coolkev, install radiator on HDD
[01:47] <pbiegaj> I've compiled and install the ndiswrapper modules with the proper driver file
[01:47] <kolcvk> i have 2 installed
[01:47] <kolcvk> :)
[01:47] <pbiegaj> it loads into the kernel
[01:47] <zukalk> coolkev, stuff using most of the CPU
[01:47] <cw2> coolkev: when the hd is accessed, look for what starts using CPU
[01:47] <coolkev> how much does that cost
[01:47] <drummer> need some help with Evolution - anyone available for that?
[01:47] <kolcvk> few $
[01:47] <kolcvk> <10
[01:47] <pbiegaj> however I can't bring up the wlan0 device because as it goes through the process of coming up and configuring hte essid, etc
[01:48] <coolkev> Xorg and Terminal mostly
[01:48] <pbiegaj> it says no such device
[01:48] <funkyHat> drummer, just ask :)
[01:48] <bahblahblahbah> hi...i'm new to linux...
[01:48] <kolcvk> coolkev, then just buy radiator
[01:48] <kolcvk> :)
[01:48] <coolkev> you said around $10 Canadian?
[01:48] <kolcvk> bahblahblahbah, GOTTA QUESTIONS ?
[01:48] <pbiegaj> so yeah it sucks :-(
[01:48] <kolcvk> sorry for caps
[01:48] <pbiegaj> tail /var/log/syslog
[01:48] <cw2> coolkev: might also run "lsof" while the hd light is on and run it again when it stops and see whats different
[01:48] <pbiegaj> oops
[01:49] <bahblahblahbah> some
[01:49] <zukalk> hey, is anyone here into forms? the guys at #html are apparently all dead
[01:49] <bahblahblahbah> I'm still trying to find stuff for my hardware
[01:49] <pbiegaj> so anyway is anyone has had experience with the broadcom chipsets on laptops and getting them to work
[01:49] <drummer> Thanks funkyhat.  I did a fresh install then set up Evolution.  I then tried to import my old info from an oldert version with no luck.  Now when I click on Evolution it says it's starting then quits.
[01:49] <pbiegaj> any advice would be greatly appreciated
[01:49] <cw2> coolkev: the heat isn't likely to hurt the hd
[01:49] <cw2> zukalk: #web
[01:50] <zukalk> cw2, thanks
[01:50] <funkyHat> drummer, i can't help you there, sorry, i'm sure someone will be able to though
[01:50] <coolkev> i see
[01:50] <coolkev> the reason why I'm on linux is because i have no money to bguy and operate windows
[01:50] <kolcvk> bahblahblahbah, what kind of hardware ?
[01:51] <bahblahblahbah> be right back...this linux stuff is so confusing...-.-
[01:51] <coolkev> i taught it'll keep all costs down and now i see my hd getting hot and i get scared i have no money to buy new
[01:51] <kolcvk> naaahh linux dA BeSt
[01:51] <kolcvk> :)
[01:51] <coolkev> where in ubuntu i go to turn off harddisk after a while of being idle
[01:52] <coolkev> also having low ram also casue harddisk to be used more?
[01:52] <funkyHat> coolkev, yes it will do
[01:53] <kolcvk> yeap
[01:53] <kolcvk> less ram , more swap is being used
[01:53] <kolcvk> :)
[01:53] <coolkev> i did that lsfo thingy and it show a bunch of stuff... what am i looking for?
[01:54] <tritium> nalioth, did it work?
[01:55] <nalioth> tritium: is there another channel you could join?
[01:55] <coolkev> also everytime i open limewire my comp runs extra slow and i see in system monitor java is using around 300 mb memory
[01:55] <tritium> nalioth, how about /query?
[01:55] <nalioth> coolkev: java sucks all use out of your puter (esp if you are ram-impaired to start with)
[01:55] <Dr_Willis>  heh
[01:55] <pbiegaj> can anyone offer me help on the wireless front?
[01:56] <pbiegaj> or anyone have a compaq presario v2311us
[01:56] <pbiegaj> ?
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> yes i do
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> :P
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> just got it today even
[01:56] <coolkev> is there any alternative to limewire
[01:56] <coolkev> that doesn't hog my ram
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> coolkev,  dozens of them.
[01:56] <coolkev> please tell me
[01:56] <pbiegaj> Dr_Willis really?
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> check out the gnutella clients at the gnutella homepage.
[01:56] <pbiegaj> Dr_Willis, have you had any luck?
[01:57] <pbiegaj> getting the wireless working?
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> pbiegaj,  I got ubuntu going on it right now. No idea on wireless
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> i had to use the noapci /noapic options to get it to boot right.
[01:57] <pbiegaj> gotcha slick laptop isn't it?
[01:57] <pbiegaj> yeah my bootup the first time was really slow
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> pbiegaj,  it has its good and bad points. :P but it was cheap.
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> the first boot worked.. went to x and hung. :P
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> then was real real real slow the next boot.. so i rebooted and tried those optons
[01:58] <pbiegaj> Dr_Willis, I think it's really nice for the price
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> since i assumed it was some cpu-throtteling issue.
[01:58] <coolkev> http://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.net/
[01:58] <coolkev> anyone use that program before?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> pbiegaj,  bestbuy had them for like $850 after mail in rebates
[01:58] <nickrud> many times
[01:58] <pbiegaj> Dr_Willis, btw I imagine you know that you have to chance the xorg.conf file to use vesa instead of the proper radeon driver
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> coolkev,  thats the 'definitive' orginal client.
[01:58] <pbiegaj> Dr_Willis, right that's where I got mine
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> pbiegaj,  actually GDM started up just fine.
[01:59] <nalioth> coolkev: gtk-gnutella works great
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> not got it all the way to X yet. :P
[01:59] <coolkev> and not a memory hog?
[01:59] <nalioth> coolkev: saves your system - doesnt use java
[01:59] <pbiegaj> Dr_Willis, really? mine locked up once you logged in and I guess some other people had a similar problem
[01:59] <pbiegaj> Dr_Willis, maybe my not turning off acpi caused it to lock up
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> pbiegaj,  yea not sure.. booting to X - lets see
[02:00] <pbiegaj> Dr_Willis, well in any case if you happen to try and get the wireless working let me know what you did, I can't see the wlan0 device
[02:00] <pbiegaj> Dr_Willis, even though I installed the ndiswrapper module without a problem
[02:00] <pbiegaj> and have all the other things properly configured
[02:00] <brainsick> is anyone familiar with the LVM/EVMS capabilities of Ubuntu?  I have a bunch of questions
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> lol.. went to gdm.. selected icewm.. and gdm hung.
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> make a web site  pbiegaj  with all ya configs
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> and that linux laptops site.
[02:01] <Cooner750> Ok. I finally got GParted to work and I have a 6GB EXT2(or 3?) partition on my external USB drive
[02:01] <coolkev> how do i get gtk-gnutella on ubuntu? apt-get install gtk-gnutella?
[02:01] <pbiegaj> Dr_Willis, I plan on contributing to linux laptops once I get this all up and running
[02:01] <pbiegaj> but it's still a process
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> coolkev,  that would be my guess
[02:01] <pbiegaj> Dr_Willis, gotta eat brb
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> pbiegaj,  ok.. keep me informed. :P
[02:02] <coolkev> ubuntu is gtk2?
[02:02] <socomm> coolkev: Ubuntu is a GNU/Linux distro.
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> gtk2 is a programing library
[02:02] <coolkev> no theres two versions of gtk-gnutella one is gtk1 and other is gtk2
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> get the 2 :P
[02:03] <coolkev> ok
[02:03] <Cooner750> Now. How do I install Ubuntu to that partition?
[02:03] <Cooner750> Use the Ubuntu Install CD?
[02:03] <zukalk> coolkev, but you *could* use 1 too, as long as you have the libraries needed
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> Cooner750,  the installer saw and showed my usb drives...   not that i tried it however.
[02:03] <MrGardenHoseMan> what are the basic commands to install a program?
[02:03] <kolcvk> ./cpnfigure
[02:03] <zukalk> MrGardenHoseMan, .deb packages?
[02:03] <socomm> MrGardenHoseMan: synaptic
[02:03] <kolcvk> make && make install
[02:03] <MrGardenHoseMan> .gz
[02:04] <brainsick> can anyone point me in the right direction in regards to volume management (software raid, logical volumes, etc) on Ubuntu?  I know that LVM and EVMS are the akronyms that I want, but not much else :)
[02:04] <kolcvk> tar.gz ?
[02:04] <coolkev> for next version of ubuntu add a auto installer for tar.gz and .deb files
[02:04] <Cooner750> how long does a Ubuntu install take?
[02:04] <MrGardenHoseMan> yeah
[02:04] <MrGardenHoseMan> after untaring
[02:04] <Cooner750> (forever?)_
[02:04] <kolcvk> tar -zxf file.tar.gz
[02:04] <MrGardenHoseMan> ./confiure then make and then make install?
[02:04] <kolcvk> ./configure
[02:04] <kolcvk> make && make install
[02:04] <kolcvk> (as root)
[02:04] <Cooner750> do I have to use the Install CD
[02:04] <coolkev> ok install .deb files?
[02:04] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks
[02:05] <socomm> Cooner750: Depends on your hardware.
[02:05] <Cooner750> and what bootloader should I use?
[02:05] <coolkev> the command is?
[02:05] <socomm> Cooner750: Ubuntu defaults to GRUB.
[02:05] <zukalk> coolkev, dpkg -i <package name>.deb
[02:05] <coolkev> thanks
[02:05] <zukalk> (as root)
[02:05] <coolkev> ye sudo
[02:06] <Cooner750> My hardware is a Pavilion a720n Athlon 3200+ with 512MB RAM
[02:06] <Cooner750> and a usb 2.0 external
[02:06] <socomm> Cooner750: Should not take too long.
[02:06] <nickrud> coolkev, ubuntu has excellent deb file management, dpkg -i is not the best method :)
[02:06] <BockBilbo> is there a way to make none esd programs play sounds with esd configuring its sound adapter to something instead of  /dev/dsp ?
[02:06] <Cooner750> Now I just have to wait for the install .iso to download
[02:06] <coolkev> nickrud enlighten me
[02:06] <Cooner750> 15%
[02:07] <Cooner750> 13 min remaining
[02:07] <nickrud> coolkev, try running sudo synaptic, that's the current management tool
[02:07] <coolkev> ohh
[02:08] <coolkev> i know about that... but does it let u install from .deb you download?
[02:08] <Wckdkl0wn>  if i did all the updates on warty would it be like using hedgehog?
[02:08] <socomm> coolkev: You could click on the package on nautilus which should bring up an installation app.
[02:08] <coolkev> how do i add gtk-gnutella to the Application>Internet section
[02:08] <socomm> !smeg
[02:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[02:09] <coolkev> it open in archive manager
[02:09] <Wckdkl0wn> anyone know?
[02:09] <nickrud> coolkev, gtk-gnutella is available with synaptic. First, try ctl-f and search for gtk-gnutella, see if it's available with your configuration
[02:09] <Cooner750> what bootloader should I use? (and one that's safe to install?) ? Or just use the XP boot menu?
[02:10] <cw2> Wckdkl0wn: if you set your sources to the hedghog ones and fiddle with it a bit
[02:10] <jasoncohen> Cooner750, grub is the default. it should have a selection for XP
[02:10] <cw2> Cooner750: grub or lilo, xp's is weak
[02:10] <Cooner750> Will GRUB install to the external?
[02:11] <Cooner750> I dont want to mess with the XP installation on the internal NTFS
[02:11] <jasoncohen> the bootloader is meant to be on the MBR
[02:11] <socomm> Cooner750: You're prompted for whichever you like.
[02:11] <nickrud> coolkev, did you find it?
[02:11] <Cooner750> Whew. I'm paramnoid when it comes to the NTFS and XP + Linux = not a good idea
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> My lateest pc - has a bios option to select what hd to boot off of.  so i can put grub on the mbr of the linux hd (i have 2 hds) and never touch the xp drive at all.
[02:11] <socomm> Cooner750: You could write to the MBR or make a boot floopy.
[02:12] <Cooner750> Unfortunatly; this PC dosent have a floppy drive... Is there a floppy image that could be put on a CD? That does the same as a floppy?
[02:12] <Cooner750> It has a space for a floppy; I just havent got a chance to put on in yet
[02:14] <cw2> any able to play a dvd with mplayer?  i think its broke
[02:14] <socomm> cw2: Did you install all the dvd stuff?
[02:14] <Cooner750> Is there a bootable CD that does the same as the bootable floppy?
[02:14] <coolkev> nickrud yes but i got the latest from website
[02:14] <Ginsu> no, I use xine
[02:14] <coolkev> and installed it
[02:14] <coolkev> and added it to menu using smeg
[02:14] <coolkev> thanks for all the help everyone
[02:15] <cw2> socomm: i'd like to think so, it's not my first time using mplayer, but this is my first amd64 horay
[02:15] <socomm> Cooner750: Doubtful.
[02:15] <nickrud> coolkev, then, that deb would show up (after it's installed) as an obsolete or local package in synaptic
[02:15] <Cooner750> 5 min remaining on the install cd download
[02:15] <socomm> cw2: Double check if you got libdvdread and the decss stuff installed.
[02:15] <Cooner750> How easy is the installer (i'm pretty much a computer expert, but I've never dealt with Linux installers)?
[02:16] <tsot> hey
[02:16] <socomm> Cooner750: As easy as the XP installer.
[02:16] <Cooner750> cool
[02:16] <reka> socomm: not quite
[02:16] <nickrud> coolkev, sorry, I forgot it was a replacement for the existing package; it wont' be there :)
[02:16] <tsot> can someone remind me how to install java to ubuntu
[02:16] <reka> Cooner750: you should be OK, just choose defaultsif you're not sure
[02:16] <cw2> socomm: yeah, I think it's an liba52 issue, my output is here http://pastebin.ca/18253
[02:16] <tsot> also I remember someone gave me a link about updates
[02:16] <BockBilbo> cooner750 window expert != computer expert
[02:16] <BockBilbo> 8-)
[02:16] <reka> Cooner750: are you going for dual-boot?
[02:16] <tsot> can someone remind me that?
[02:16] <Cooner750> yea
[02:16] <w0wz0rz> could someone help a newb out? :)
[02:16] <Cooner750> XP on a internal NTFS
[02:16] <socomm> reka: It is for me.
[02:17] <Cooner750> and Ubuntu on a External USB 2.0
[02:17] <tsot> noone here???
[02:17] <reka> Cooner750: well, that probably makes things easier...you won't have to resize XP/create partitions.
[02:17] <Cooner750> I have 2 partitions on the external. A FAT32 that is used for windows stuff, and a 6GB EXT3(or 2? I forget) for Ubuntu
[02:17] <w0wz0rz> whenever i try to boot with the disc i get an error :\
[02:18] <cw2> Cooner750: does you mobo support booting off an external usb disk?
[02:18] <robert_pectol> Anyone know where I can turn of the syslog option that causes the, "-- MARK --" messages in the syslog?  Apparently there is an option in /etc/sysconfig/syslog on Red Hat and similar distros.  I can't find Ubuntu's equivalent (and no, I'm not talking about the /etc/syslog.conf file).
[02:18] <Cooner750> cw2: yes
[02:19] <Cooner750> I hit ESC at the BIOS load screen and it lists all available boot devices, including USB
[02:19] <slask3n> nobody knows of any usb mic drivers in kernel or in ubuntu/linux generally?
[02:19] <Cooner750> That's how i booted from a pendrive for a long time
[02:19] <reka> socomm: well, imho it isn't as easy....xp installer is virtually foolproof....ubuntu has the further responsibility of working with an existing OS (assuming most users already have XP installed)
[02:19] <ethics> ok so ubuntu has possibly the least amount of bugs ive seen in a BTS before......im going to assume that the community sucks at reporting bugs because i have at least 6 bugs ......is there another bug reporting system thats actually used other than bugzila.ubuntu?
[02:19] <pax> robert_pectol: you want something verbose, wrapper/logger like snoopy?
[02:20] <cw2> Cooner750: set it as first and write grub to the usb disk.  you'll be lucky if it comes with an initrd that has the usb-storage module though
[02:20] <w0wz0rz> my boot disc freezes up when it gets up to "Freeing unused kernel memory: 224k freed" why wont it go on to the next screen?
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> define 'bug' :)
[02:20] <robert_pectol> pax:   No.  I want to eliminate the, "-- MARK --" entries in my syslog.
[02:20] <Cooner750> I have a 256MB Usb Disk? Could grub be put on that (i'm throwing ideas here; not used to the whole installing of linux)
[02:21] <Cooner750> GRUB would be fine on the external.. no issues there. I'm just trying to stay away from the internal NTFS w/ XP on it
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> Cooner750,   i think it depends on the usb disk. and the mb. and bios
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> ive put grub on dozens of XP drives with no problems
[02:21] <Cooner750> I can get you the MB brand if that helps :/
[02:21] <Cooner750> and model
[02:21] <ethics> dr_willis:  segfaults on a clean install....
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> if ya need to remove it - you boot a XP cd to rescue mode and use 'fixmbr'
[02:22] <cw2> socomm: any idea's or should I report a bug?
[02:22] <Cooner750> Unfortunatly; this computer came with XP so no XP disc..
[02:22] <socomm> cw2: Probably not, try joining #mplayer.
[02:22] <cw2> Cooner750: did it comes with a restore cd?
[02:22] <socomm> cw2: It's probably just a bad setup you got there.
[02:22] <w0wz0rz> my boot disc freezes up when it gets up to "Freeing unused kernel memory: 224k freed" why wont it go on to the next screen?
[02:22] <ubuntuthinking> Hello, looking for help on getting my wireless to work with a hp932c connected on a winxp box
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> track one down. :P ya dont need the xp serial # or anything.
[02:22] <qt2> anyone know where the beep meda player config is stored?
[02:22] <Cooner750> cw2: I think so. I'd have to look'
[02:22] <socomm> qt2: ~/.bmp
[02:22] <MrGardenHoseMan> does ubuntu come with a c compiler?
[02:22] <qt2> ah
[02:22] <coolkev> is it save to install gaim from cvs... i just want to have the newer version then that in the ubuntu repositories
[02:22] <Ginsu> Cooner750: The "Knoppix Hacks" explains how to do anything with Grub, Lilo, and Windows booting.
[02:23] <socomm> MrGardenHoseMan: No you'll have to install it via apt-get or synaptic.
[02:23] <cw2> socomm: I did, seems I'm the 3rd person today with this problem on ubuntu.
[02:23] <reka> robert_pectol: maybe try 'man syslogd'
[02:23] <vader> I may try to use mplayer on this laptop, I was given a p2 366 today.....heheh
[02:23] <Cooner750> i'm burning the installer image now
[02:23] <MrGardenHoseMan> what's the package named?
[02:23] <socomm> MrGardenHoseMan: After install just type `apt-get install build-essential'.
[02:23] <rw`> socomm, I am one of them.
[02:23] <reka> robert_pectol: possibly the '-m interval' option
[02:23] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks
[02:23] <rw`> cw2, came to help :)
[02:23] <w0wz0rz> can someone help me with this installation?
[02:23] <ethics> vader:  increase the cache size in mplayer and itl;l be fine
[02:23] <socomm> cw2: Well I don't know, report a bug if you like. I'd just roll my own and call it a day.
[02:23] <airmikey> anyone here on a laptop or notebook ?
[02:24] <cw2> just wanted to see if I was missing some trick in ubuntu before I take matters into my own hands :)
[02:24] <Cooner750> burning image 40%...
[02:24] <Cooner750> i
[02:24] <robert_pectol> reka:   Yeah it's just that I'm not sure where that would be located.  It seems to be different for Ubuntu.
[02:24] <Cooner750> i'm such a paranoid person.. it's now wonder...
[02:24] <rw`> cw2, guess we will have to paste a bug.
[02:24] <darkmatter> MrGardenHoseMan: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:24] <pbiegaj> airmikey, I am on a lapto
[02:24] <pbiegaj> p
[02:24] <pbiegaj> airmikey, why do you ask?
[02:24] <airmikey> gonna buy 1
[02:24] <Cooner750> At least I have backups of everything on the external backed to DVD
[02:24] <darkmatter> that will give the compiler set
[02:25] <Cooner750> 70% burning
[02:25] <hybrid_goth> airmikey which one?
[02:25] <airmikey> wanna make sure i wll be able to get online
[02:25] <pbiegaj> airmikey, oh I gotcha I'm still having troubles with the wireless and graphics drivers
[02:25] <reka> robert_pectol: well, man page says /etc/syslog.conf ... but i you don't want that, right?
[02:25] <pbiegaj> which suffice to say is a bit more than a pain in the butt
[02:25] <ethics> socomm:  report a bug if you like.........i think you meant to say report it as a bug and then roll your own.,......that way when the next guy checks it theres actually know info....i have 6 bugs in the first 10 minutes of running ubuntu and i cant find any bts info on any of them...
[02:25] <Cooner750> Will I be able to save Ubuntu settings after it's installed?
[02:25] <robert_pectol> reka:   On a Mandrake system it's located in /etc/sysconfig/syslog which is not the same as /etc/syslog.conf
[02:25] <airmikey> oh no
[02:25] <Cooner750> (a.k.a. - not lose anything...)
[02:26] <airmikey> dell inspiron 6000
[02:26] <reka> robert_pectol: it wouldn't be ... they're different distros :-/
[02:26] <socomm> ethics: All right.
[02:26] <Cooner750> I cant tell exactly of my partition is ext3 or 2 because windows dosent see that partition so...
[02:26] <w0wz0rz> i cant even install my linux with the boot disc, could someone help me out?
[02:26] <__learner__> hi, can you help me into making my webcam work.
[02:26] <Cooner750> I think EXT3
[02:26] <robert_pectol> reka:   oh, and yes, I have the man page!  Thanks anyway.
[02:26] <Cooner750> ok. burning complete. Going in for boot.
[02:26] <Cooner750> brb
[02:26] <Cooner750> hopefully :-/
[02:26] <reka> robert_pectol: np ... 'm a bit puzzled though :)
[02:26] <reka> *i'm
[02:26] <pbiegaj> anyone somewhat of an expert regarding ndiswrapper and broadcom mini pci wireless card?
[02:26] <__learner__> its LG, and I think it is supported by the OmniVision driver, I would like to know if there is any package for that.
[02:26] <pbiegaj> cards?
[02:26] <MrGardenHoseMan> anyone know the answer to this 'What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:26] <MrGardenHoseMan> kernel?'
[02:27] <ethics> w0wz0rz, what errors or issues do you have..
[02:27] <pbiegaj> MrGardenHoseMan, I'm pretty sure you have to dl those in ubuntu
[02:27] <pbiegaj> MrGardenHoseMan, you can do apt-get install linux-headers-$(uanem -r)
[02:27] <MrGardenHoseMan> build-essential right?
[02:27] <robert_pectol> reka:   I've googled it a couple of times and have come up empty-handed thus far.
[02:27] <pbiegaj> uname rather
[02:27] <anto9us> pbiegaj: what model of card is it?
[02:27] <socomm> MrGardenHoseMan: You'll need to install that.
[02:27] <ethics> MrGardenHoseMan, /usr/src/kernel-headers (YOUR KERNEL)    if its not there install them
[02:28] <socomm> MrGardenHoseMan: Most of the development stuff is left of to conserve users disk space.
[02:28] <pbiegaj> see that what I'm not certain about and finding the info even from the compaq webiste
[02:28] <reka> robert_pectol: from man page: "Setting the interval to zero turns it off entirely"
[02:28] <pbiegaj> I can give you the lspci output
[02:28] <Nard> OK why is it that when i have more then one thing open that makes noise it will only play the noise made by the first one opened
[02:28] <pbiegaj> anto9us, I'm searching to figure out exactely what model it is right now
[02:28] <anto9us> lspci should show it
[02:29] <reka> robert_pectol: so maybe run: 'syslogd -m 0'
[02:29] <w0wz0rz> what does this error mean? "kernel panic - not syncing: no init found. try passing init= option to kernel"
[02:29] <pbiegaj> 0000:05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4318 (rev 02)
[02:29] <ethics> Nard, goto alsa's webpage and find dmix:plugin
[02:29] <j_fletcher> whats the best place for gnome desklets? except the site gdesklets.gnomedesktop?
[02:29] <Nard> alsa's?
[02:29] <supernix> I was curious how can I locate the file where results are cached for BIND9 ?
[02:29] <anto9us> pbiegaj: I have a BCM4309 working on my laptop with ndiswrapper
[02:29] <ethics> w0wz0rz, it means it cant find your hard disks...
[02:30] <w0wz0rz> uh
[02:30] <ethics> w0wz0rz,  thats from boot disk or cdrom etc?
[02:30] <w0wz0rz> alright let me switch the ribbon cable one sec
[02:30] <w0wz0rz> cdrom
[02:30] <Nard> ethics, what is alsa's webpage... maybe some linkage
[02:30] <anto9us> pbiegaj: it's using the driver supplied by Dell for the truemobile 1450
[02:31] <ethics> nard: google alsa linux sound.......alsa-project  i think  its called
[02:31] <pbiegaj> anto9us, I have a compaq presario v2311us
[02:31] <ethics> nard:id link but im on a 56k link atm
[02:31] <Nard> oh
[02:31] <Nard> that's fine
[02:31] <Nard> i'll find it
[02:31] <StabFace> ...I have an inspiron 1100 and I'm have a problem with the resolution and I've checked the forums and done the advice can someone help me if they know how?
[02:31] <lupus1010> gtk uses stock icons
[02:31] <lupus1010> what does qt use?
[02:31] <reka> j_fletcher: aren't gdesklets in the repo?
[02:31] <lupus1010> anyone?
[02:31] <anto9us> pbiegaj: the driver inf file used is bcmwl5a, I've known this driver to work on other manufacturer's laptops
[02:32] <pbiegaj> that's what I"m using right now
[02:32] <lupus1010> is there something like gtk stock icons in qt?
[02:32] <pbiegaj> but I've tried the bcmwl5 driver as well
[02:32] <pbiegaj> the problem is when I try to set the iwconfig parameters
[02:32] <socomm> lupus1010: Yes, they're the crystal icons.
[02:32] <ethics> lupus1010, maybee need to download some but yeah there are
[02:33] <pbiegaj> it says wlan0 not found
[02:33] <reka> !tell StabFace about fixres
[02:33] <anto9us> pbiegaj: the bcmwl5 isn't supported by ndiswrapper, does ndiswrapper list the hardware and driver as present?
[02:33] <pbiegaj> rather no such device sorry
[02:33] <robert_pectol> reka:   Well, not knowing where to put specify option, I stuck the following in /etc/syslog.conf:  SYSLOGD_OPTIONS="-m 0 -r"      Hopefully that'll do it.
[02:33] <pbiegaj> it will list the driver
[02:33] <pbiegaj> my understanding that both drivers work with ndiswrapper
[02:33] <w0wz0rz> ethics
[02:33] <StabFace> thanks let me check rika
[02:33] <lupus1010> socomm, in gtk you can use GTK_STOCK_ICON and it knows what icon I want
[02:33] <w0wz0rz> i just switched the ribbon cables now i get another error
[02:33] <pbiegaj> anto9us, so it's really a pain
[02:33] <reka> robert_pectol: i was under the impression running syslogd would alter the conf file. :-/
[02:34] <lupus1010> how does this in qt work?
[02:34] <anto9us> pbiegaj: didn't for me, I had to unload the bcmwl5 driver before the bcmwl5a would work
[02:34] <robert_pectol> reka:   So far, so good.  No complaints from the logger upon restarting sysklogd...
[02:34] <w0wz0rz> "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
[02:34] <ethics> w0wz0rz, is it a better one i wonder hehe.,..whats it saying now hehe
[02:34] <w0wz0rz> basically the same thing
[02:34] <lupus1010> so http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gtk/gtk-Stock-Items.html#GTK-STOCK-PRINT:CAPS  but in qt (does it exist or not?)
[02:34] <pbiegaj> anto9us, I tried both independent of one another
[02:34] <ethics> w0wz0rz, yeah...what kind of ide controller is it?
[02:34] <pbiegaj> and still nothing
[02:35] <w0wz0rz> how can i find out lol
[02:35] <ethics> w0wz0rz, sata?  nforce, intell,via,ali,sis?
[02:35] <anto9us> pbiegaj: what does ndiswrapper -l say?
[02:35] <w0wz0rz> ide = ?
[02:35] <lupus1010> any kde developers here?
[02:35] <pbiegaj> anto9us, Installed ndis drivers:
[02:35] <pbiegaj> bcmwl5a driver present
[02:35] <ethics> w0wz0rz, should give you some idea on the bootup screens for bios
[02:35] <vladuz976> can someone help me? my man pages require sudo, what could that be?
[02:35] <w0wz0rz> oh lanparty mobo
[02:35] <anto9us> pbiegaj: does it not say hardware present?
[02:35] <pbiegaj> anto9us, should it?
[02:35] <anto9us> pbiegaj: yes
[02:36] <pbiegaj> anto9us, maybe this card uses a different .inf file
[02:36] <anto9us> pbiegaj: maybe
[02:36] <pbiegaj> anto9us, does ndiswrapper support any other .inf files?
[02:36] <reka> !tell vladuz976 about rootsudo
[02:36] <searcher`> is anyone here having crashing problems with the updated firefox package?
[02:36] <searcher`> my firefox keeps crashing every few minutes, even with a new profile
[02:36] <anto9us> pbiegaj: there's an hardware database on their site I think
[02:36] <searcher`> and no extensions
[02:36] <w0wz0rz> ethics
[02:36] <ethics> w0wz0rz, you may need to probe the drivers yourself etc...id be googling for debian/ubuntu install and your motherboard name model and chipsets stuff....itll be supported by something just not autodetecting
[02:36] <pbiegaj> anto9us, thanks I'll look into it
[02:37] <w0wz0rz> how can i find out what ide i have
[02:37] <robert_pectol> reka:   Anytime I've modified my /etc/syslog.conf file, the changes have stayed so not sure what you're referring to...
[02:37] <brainsick> how does one setup a new hard drive in Ubuntu?
[02:37] <ethics> w0wz0rz, bios info doesnt say much on boot regarding chipsets?  perhaps the manual if you have it?
[02:37] <StabFace> reka: restarting thiank you for your help lets see if this works
[02:37] <w0wz0rz> one sec
[02:38] <reka> robert_pectol: nvm ... i'm probably just confused.  you seem to have fixed it anyway. :)
[02:38] <thespiritoftal> hi
[02:38] <robert_pectol> reka:   Hopefully :-)  Time will tell.  Anyhow, thanks!
[02:38] <reka> np
[02:39] <thespiritoftal> Can someone tell me how to install java to ubuntu? Also someone here gave me a site with some explanations about installing new things to ubuntu... does anyone know that? thanks
[02:39] <anto9us> brainsick: create a partition on it, format it and set mount points to it, you can use gparted to do it
[02:39] <w0wz0rz> it says ide interface with nvidia raid
[02:39] <cw2> how can I tell what the ./configure line for a program was?
[02:39] <brainsick> anto9us: it's on a server install
[02:39] <reka> thespiritoftal: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[02:39] <pax> thespiritoftal: ubuntuguide.org use at your own risk
[02:39] <w0wz0rz> that help ethics?
[02:40] <ghetek> how can i make a super small kernel and just have it use mpg123?
[02:40] <brainsick> anto9us: is it as simple as fdisk / mkfs?  there's no need to get the EVMS stuff involved?
[02:40] <socomm> thespiritoftal:
[02:40] <socomm> !restricted
[02:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:40] <BockBilbo> is there a good rss agregator program for gnome?
[02:40] <anto9us> brainsick: yes, and edit fstab to set your mount points
[02:40] <socomm> thespiritoftal: It's explained on the above like.
[02:40] <blmartin777> Can I use the gnome-wireless network applet in fvwm and how do I invoke it
[02:40] <w0wz0rz> it says i have ide interface with nvidia raid ethics
[02:40] <thespiritoftal> thanks
[02:41] <reka> thespiritoftal: be forewarned the site pax linked to is not held in high regard here...better to use the wiki pages, or ask us directly.
[02:41] <searcher`> BockBilbo: blam is nice
[02:41] <thespiritoftal> I see
[02:41] <brainsick> anto9us: do you have any familiarity with EVMS?
[02:41] <ethics> w0wz0rz, yeah a bit,  try searching google for "nvidia IDE RAID debian Ubuntu installer "  good chance someone knows the nvidia ide stuff better than i,  im always intel 8(
[02:41] <shadeofgrey> anybody here familiar with site5 hosting?
[02:42] <shadeofgrey> my account with them is fubared and i could use some help
[02:42] <anto9us> brainsick: it's quite similar to raid isn't it, only expandable?
[02:42] <w0wz0rz> ethics do ou have msn or aim we could talk on?
[02:43] <BockBilbo> thanks sean13_
[02:43] <BockBilbo> i mean, searcher`
[02:43] <reka> cw2: afaik, a plain './configure' will use the defaults ... read the README/INSTALL file for more info
[02:43] <reka> cw2: what are you installing anyway?
[02:43] <ethics> w0wz0rz, not at the moment unfortunately,  Im on a server in a warehouse heheh i only manage to get xchat text up hehe
[02:43] <Cooner750> HELP
[02:43] <w0wz0rz> ok..so what do i need to get
[02:43] <brainsick> anto9us: it has logical volumes (expandable) and I believe it can do RAID as well, but ... I'm looking for some information on how to make it useful :)
[02:43] <ghetek> Cooner750: no
[02:44] <Cooner750> I get "Could not open /dev/console" and then "Kernal Panic - Not Syncing - Attempted to Kill Init!" Help. I installed; but cant load Ubuntu
[02:44] <w0wz0rz> cooner i get the same second error as you
[02:44] <anto9us> brainsick: any multi-spindle system can do raid
[02:44] <pax> now let's not scare people too much, ubuntuguide.org is not a national security treath or anything like that, it is fine just don't explain the commands so no theory but plain commands.
[02:44] <brainsick> anto9us: how?
[02:44] <Cooner750> anybody? What can I do about this?
[02:45] <j_fletcher> reka: some, but i'm looking for some specific ones to make a nice looking desktop, I know its nothing important, but it's just something I'd like.
[02:45] <Cooner750> I got this same error when trying to load Slax off of a USB pendrive
[02:45] <w0wz0rz> cooner they said that its because the computer cannot find our hard drives lol
[02:45] <reka> pax: well, the ops in here advise against it:
[02:45] <reka> !ubuntuguide
[02:45] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[02:45] <Cooner750> lovely. So I wasted today partitioning a hard drive for no reason!?
[02:45] <pax> reka: depends what ops we are talking about
[02:45] <cw2> reka: i want to recompile a package that isn't working right (mplayer) and would like a starting place so I'd like to know what was used on the package ubuntu has
[02:45] <w0wz0rz> hey your getting farther then i am :
[02:45] <anto9us> brainsick: what I did was create several raid partitions using the ubuntu installer and then set an array (md0) and added those partitions to it
[02:46] <pax> reka, bob2 is not only op, he also is an employee and link to that site with no warnings or problems :)
[02:46] <Cooner750> !? Are my messages going in one side of the server and out the other?
[02:46] <ubotu> Cooner750: okay
[02:46] <reka> pax: Seveas and nalioth to name two of them
[02:46] <pax> reka, ok and?
[02:47] <w0wz0rz> i feel the same way :\
[02:47] <Cooner750> ugh this is frustrating. Install went perfect
[02:47] <Cooner750> and now it dosent even load
[02:47] <brainsick> anto9us: "create several raid partitions" -- you had to identify them as raid when you created them?  and how did you create the md0 array (or, rather, how would you do it outside of the "ubuntu installer"?)
[02:47] <Cooner750> GRUB even works on the MBR
[02:47] <w0wz0rz> my installer didnt even load yet, dont feel bad
[02:47] <cw2> I'd have to agree that ubunutguide is bunk.. "who to install xchm: apt-get install xchm"... come on, for something that easy wouldn't you just search in the package manager?
[02:47] <anto9us> brainsick: I think parted can do it
[02:47] <Rugmonster> Cooner750: you sure grub is configured properly?
[02:47] <pax> reka, do you think for yourself or let others think and decide for you? tell me what's so dangerous about the guide?
[02:47] <A[D] minS> is there myplayer for ubuntu?
[02:47] <A[D] minS> mplayer*
[02:47] <reka> pax: i admit i can't think of others ... most other ops aren't active when i'm in here...
[02:48] <Cooner750> Rugmonster: Yes. It boots Ubuntu fine, and when Ubuntu starts to load... BAM! error
[02:48] <Cooner750> from
[02:48] <cw2> A[D] minS: yes, it seems to have issues with dvd's though
[02:48] <radiodog_> how does hardware monitoring work in ubuntu?
[02:48] <Cooner750> the Ubuntu side
[02:48] <reka> pax: inclusion of backports n ther sample sources.list
[02:48] <cw2> A[D] minS: or anything with ac3 audio
[02:48] <A[D] minS> cw2, but i can't find it
[02:48] <TheRabbit> Can someone tell me of a SNES emulator that will run on Ubuntu?  and I guess of what I need to do to get it...
[02:48] <cw2> A[D] minS: enable universe and multiverse repositories
[02:48] <Cooner750> .
[02:48] <pax> reka, alright then, dont alarm newbies too much. backports are fine by devs not just ops.
[02:49] <A[D] minS> cw2, all enabled
[02:49] <cw2> A[D] minS: was there for me
[02:49] <benkong2> how can I make sure dhcpd is only serving ip addresses on my eth1?
[02:49] <IIIEars> Cooner750  -  Yah - grub is broken for some configurations really frustrating. - there are a bunch of howtos on the ubuntu forum they are comepletely confusing if you are new to linux
[02:49] <reka> TheRabbit: zsnes and snes9x are in the repo ... you can get them using synaptic/apt-get
[02:49] <Cooner750> any documents on this error?
[02:49] <MrITR> can't seem to play anytype of video with either mplayer or totem .avi or .mpg are there codecs i need to download for this?
[02:49] <Cooner750> I shouldve installed Lilo then?
[02:49] <A[D] minS> cw2, with name mplayer?
[02:49] <brainsick> anto9us: thank you
[02:49] <vladuz976> anybody know how to burn cd's from command line? i get errors with cdrecord
[02:49] <socomm> MrITR:
[02:50] <socomm> !win32
[02:50] <ubotu> socomm: I give up, what is it?
[02:50] <reka> pax: point taken...and you did warn him about the lack of explanation.
[02:50] <coolkev> you ned the win32codec
[02:50] <socomm> !restricted
[02:50] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:50] <A[D] minS> !mplayer
[02:50] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[02:50] <socomm> Get the codecs from tehre.
[02:50] <anto9us> brainsick: good luck, and yes, you define the pysical raid partitions before adding them to the logical, software raid.
[02:50] <Cooner750> How does GRUB cause a Kernal Panic?
[02:50] <MrITR> alright
[02:50] <benkong2> anyone? how can I make sure dhcpd is only serving ip addresses on my eth1?
[02:50] <IIIEars> nah - grub is a little easier? - heh - actually lilo needs an extra step to enable it after making changes. - i would stick with grub
[02:50] <socomm> Cooner750: This is most likely a hardware issue.
[02:50] <occy> root@atomic:~ # umount /mnt
[02:50] <occy> umount: /mnt: device is busy
[02:50] <occy> how can I see what's using /mnt ?
[02:51] <cw2> A[D] minS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[02:51] <ethics> occy, fuser lsof
[02:51] <IIIEars> !grub
[02:51] <ubotu> I guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[02:51] <coolkev> everytime i boot up ubuntu boot screen is all fuzzy... and then later on it get normal just before it's finished loading
[02:51] <coolkev> anyone know why?
[02:51] <ethics> occy, prolly lsof on the dev...
[02:51] <reka> IIIEars: did you change your nick a day or two ago?
[02:51] <ethics> occy also theres a -l option on umount for forcing it if it happens to be FAM
[02:52] <IIIEars> slightly - yes iiears_
[02:52] <cw2> coolkev: is it an lcd?
[02:52] <gigaclon> anyone know why RealPlayer freezes when i try to play something?
[02:52] <occy> gam_serve  9039    october   73r      DIR       48,8    4096          2 /mnt
[02:52] <A[D] minS> occy, what do u want to do?
[02:52] <cw2> gigaclon: other than realplayer being a steaming turd?
[02:52] <occy> hmm
[02:52] <coolkev> no crt
[02:52] <occy> trying to umount it.
[02:52] <occy> heh
[02:52] <gigaclon> cw2, yeah
[02:52] <anto9us> occy: I've never unmounted /mnt only mounts within it
[02:53] <coolkev> just when it starts to boot up.. the black screen where the kernala nd all that stuff loads it's comlpetely fuzzy
[02:53] <Cooner750> ugh frustrating
[02:53] <gigaclon> I got to have my npr
[02:53] <A[D] minS> umount /mnt ?
[02:53] <crimsun> occy, nautilus being naughty?
[02:53] <occy> crimsun, I think so...
[02:53] <occy> crimsun, hey buddy.
[02:53] <socomm> gigaclon: You ever try using a radio?
[02:53] <occy> crimsun, first 100 mile bike last Saturday!
[02:53] <coolkev> ye nautilus crashes alot
[02:53] <crimsun> occy, try killing nautilus (it'll restart)
[02:53] <w0wz0rz> why doesnt my boot disc go past "Freeing unused kernel memory: 224k freed"?
[02:53] <coolkev> and from time to time so does gnome-panel
[02:53] <crimsun> occy, excellent!
[02:53] <occy> crimsun, gearing up for Ironman Florida! w00p
[02:53] <Cooner750> How can I get back to reconfigure GRUB if somethin is wrong with it?
[02:54] <cw2> Cooner750: boot of the cd
[02:54] <coolkev> is there a keyboard shortcut to opening terminal>?
[02:54] <occy> crimsun, hmmm, killed nautilus
[02:54] <Cooner750> wouldnt that start the installer (again)
[02:54] <robert_pectol> reka:   Are you still around?
[02:54] <occy> and still /mnt is busy.
[02:54] <cw2> Cooner750: then mount and chroot
[02:54] <gigaclon> socomm, i sometimes do that, but mostly too busy, thats why I stream it off npr.org
[02:54] <socomm> coobra: ctl+alt+F<N>
[02:54] <Cooner750> dont forget
[02:54] <Cooner750> I cant run Ubuntu off the HD here
[02:54] <occy> root@atomic:~ # lsof |grep mnt
[02:54] <occy> gam_serve  9039    october   73r      DIR       48,8    4096          2 /mnt
[02:54] <cw2> occy: have you restarted fam yet? /etc/init.d/fam restart
[02:54] <IIIEars> Cooner750 - erm. - before i got the knack of grub /boot/grub/menu.lst editing - i cheated and loaded ubuntu to a second hard drive and used the bios to alternately enable different drives as master/slave
[02:54] <crimsun> occy, you don't have some app with /mnt open, do you?
[02:55] <socomm> gigaclon: You may want to try mplayer with real player codecs, that may work.
[02:55] <Cooner750> brb
[02:55] <occy> crimsun, I did before, not anymore.
[02:55] <Cooner750> let me try the BIOS
[02:55] <occy> cw2, let me try that.
[02:55] <reka> robert_pectol: what's up?
[02:55] <robert_pectol> reka:   I figured it out I think!  The options go directly in the init script for sysklogd as a startup argument!
[02:55] <anto9us> occy: is anything in /mnt mounted?
[02:55] <occy> root@atomic:~ # ls /etc/init.d/fam
[02:55] <occy> ls: /etc/init.d/fam: No such file or directory
[02:55] <coolkev> i have gaim 2.0
[02:55] <gigaclon> socomm, i tryed that with windows media feeds
[02:55] <robert_pectol> In Mandrake they have a separate file which the init script parses for startup args...
[02:55] <occy>  /dev/rd/c0d1          116G   36G   75G  32% /mnt
[02:55] <w0wz0rz> alright im getting pissed off now
[02:56] <coolkev> up and running on ubuntu
[02:56] <socomm> w0wz0rz: Is this a default kernel?
[02:56] <gigaclon> socomm, how would i do that
[02:56] <socomm> Vanilla kernel.
[02:56] <socomm> !restricted
[02:56] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:56] <w0wz0rz> i have not put anything on the hard drive yet
[02:56] <occy> root@atomic:~ # df -h |grep mnt
[02:56] <occy> /dev/rd/c0d1          116G   36G   75G  32% /mnt
[02:56] <robert_pectol> reka:   Anyway, just in case you were interested...
[02:56] <reka> robert_pectol: hehe, thanks.
[02:56] <w0wz0rz> i just got a 64 bit
[02:56] <occy> :/
[02:56] <socomm> gigaclon: Download the win32codecs, that contains rp9, wm9, and qt codecs.
[02:57] <vladuz976> anybody else have this problem with cdrecord
[02:57] <coolkev> cw2: Do you a solution to that problem i had, witht eh fuzzy screne
[02:57] <IIIEars> w0wz0rz - relax take a deep breath and know if you stay someone will walk you through it.
[02:57] <gigaclon> package w32codecs right?
[02:57] <socomm> gigaclon: Yea.
[02:57] <cw2> coolkev: maybe a low refresh rate?
[02:57] <w0wz0rz> ive been here for 20 mins and im still at the same screen :p
[02:57] <cw2> coolkev: or too hihj of one
[02:57] <coolkev> cw2: it happens only when ubuntu first boot right after GRUb where the kernal loads
[02:57] <socomm> gigaclon: It should work fine for audio feeds, I wouldn't be surprised if the video feeds just crapped out though.
[02:58] <cw2> or a crappy monitor
[02:58] <coolkev> cw2: it's like dos so I don't know how there is a resolution problem
[02:58] <coolkev> cw2: it runs perfect after like now
[02:58] <occy> root@atomic:~ # ps aux | grep 9039
[02:58] <occy> october   9039  0.0  0.1   2644  1416 ?        S    20:02   0:00 /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server
[02:58] <occy> root     10787  0.0  0.0   1592   448 pts/1    S+   20:58   0:00 grep 9039
[02:58] <occy> root@atomic:~ #
[02:58] <IIIEars> w0wz0rz, - just logged in could you repeat your question?
[02:59] <w0wz0rz> uh
[02:59] <w0wz0rz> why doesnt my boot disc go past "Freeing unused kernel memory: 224k freed"?
[02:59] <reka> coolkev: edit the ubuntu grub entry and append vga=ask to the end
[02:59] <occy> crimsun, what is gam_server ?
[02:59] <reka> coolkev: then try the different text modes to see if one of them clears it up.
[02:59] <coolkev> reka how do i edit grub?
[02:59] <crimsun> occy, monitors changes to files
[02:59] <occy> can I kill that process?
[02:59] <occy> crimsun, or how do I restart it?
[02:59] <funkyHat> how do i create desktop applets?
[03:00] <bob2> pax: some of the stuff on ubuntuguide is just stupid
[03:00] <reka> coolkev: well, you can edit a file directly if you want ... or you can type vga=ask when the grub menu shows up by pressing 'e'
[03:00] <bob2> pax: the "how to mount a windows partition" stuff looked ok, tho, so I point people at that to avoid typing
[03:01] <crimsun> occy, there's an init script in /etc/init.d/
[03:01] <gigaclon> socomm, no dice on using MPlayer it just does nothing
[03:01] <reka> coolkev: append it to the end
[03:01] <occy> crimsun, root@atomic:/etc/init.d # ls gam*
[03:01] <occy> ls: gam*: No such file or directory
[03:01] <abarbaccia> hey, whats the site that has the list of working wireless cards in ubuntu
[03:01] <madmavric> whats a good repository for installing sun-j2re
[03:01] <pax> bob2: no doubt, but not to the point to bash it or scare the hell outta newbies. a simple warning that the guide is not supported by Ubuntu/the community would be enough :)
[03:02] <Ginsu> Anyone:  How do I share an Icon or panel between multiple users' desktops.
[03:02] <reka> pax: i wasn't that harsh was i? :)
[03:02] <madmavric> whats a good repository for installing sun-j2re
[03:02] <bob2> pax: right
[03:02] <gigaclon> !mplayer
[03:02] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[03:02] <bob2> Ginsu: you can't
[03:02] <bob2> Ginsu: what are you trying to do?
[03:03] <pax> reka, oh please you are respected and appreciated for what you do, to disagree doesnt mean disrespect :)
[03:03] <bob2> madmavric: no need to repeat...wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:03] <MIK3MAN> heya bob
[03:03] <Ginsu> bob2: similar to sharing stuff like in Windows putting something in the "All Users\Desktop"
[03:03] <bob2> Ginsu: what do you want to put there?
[03:04] <virgule> I have an idea!!  ->a GUI frontend for renice!<- It will work similiar to xkill but is used to renice running processes!
[03:04] <Ginsu> bob2: I'd like to set up common icons and files for my other family members.  It makes it easier for them.
[03:04] <madmavric> whats a good repository for installing sun-j2re
[03:04] <bob2> madmavric: dude, I answered you already
[03:04] <Jet2k5> hey does anyone know what I have to add to my xorg.conf to extend my refresh rate?
[03:04] <crimsun> occy, what about /usr/lib/gam* ?
[03:04] <madmavric> sorry didnt see it
[03:04] <bob2> Ginsu: you can put things in /etc/skel/, and they;ll be copied into new user's home directories
[03:05] <bob2> Jet2k5: it's not simple, and it's card and monitor specific
[03:05] <Jet2k5> bob2: I know what it goes up to
[03:05] <madmavric> bob2 that doesnt answer my question
[03:05] <bob2> Jet2k5: if you're not using a kvm, and ubuntu didn't pick the right refresh rate, please file a bug
[03:05] <Cooner750> Ugh. Here are the errors: http://myfilestash.com/userfiles/Cooner750/darn_errors.html
[03:05] <Jet2k5> bob2: in windows I can go up to 85hz at 1280x1024
[03:05] <bob2> madmavric: er, yes it does
[03:05] <anto9us> virgule: gnome-system-monitor can do that
[03:05] <madmavric> theres no repository listed there
[03:05] <Jet2k5> bob2: well I'm it sort of did and didn't
[03:05] <Ginsu> bob2: But I understand that only works for new user IDs.  I don't want existing family members have to create icons.
[03:05] <Jet2k5> it only leaves me at 60Hz
[03:05] <ethics> its not a repo build..
[03:05] <Jet2k5> but In windows I get the option to go higher
[03:06] <bob2> Ginsu: then you'll have to copy them, sorry
[03:06] <Jet2k5> I'm running this screen of a laptop
[03:06] <cw2> Jet2k5: you need modelines
[03:06] <bob2> Ginsu: or symlink thewir ~/Desktop to somewhere central
[03:06] <Jet2k5> cw2: ok what do I put in?
[03:06] <Cooner750> .......
[03:06] <Ginsu> bob2: link to a common desktop would work.
[03:06] <cw2> Jet2k5: there's a util to gte it for you, hold on
[03:06] <Jet2k5> k thanks
[03:07] <qt2> bash: /usr/local/bin/amute: Permission denied <- why would i be getting this?
[03:07] <madmavric> i dont have time to build it, i just need a repository that has the sun package ready to go
[03:07] <bob2> Cooner750: a) don't be impatient, b) that's with a default kernel?
[03:07] <Cooner750> yes default
[03:07] <bob2> madmavric: sorry, doesn't exist, blame Sun
[03:07] <bob2> or use blackdown, which is old
[03:07] <Cooner750> sorry for being impatient. It's just bugging me
[03:07] <madmavric> yes it does, ive installed from repository before
[03:07] <Ginsu> bob2: Can a single nautilus panel be linked to a common area?
[03:07] <bob2> Ginsu: I don't know hat a nautilus panel is
[03:08] <MIK3MAN> could someone with some experience with java plz PM me. I want to get mine up and running
[03:08] <madmavric> as usual, not much help in here
[03:08] <madmavric> goodbye, on to debian, they at least know how to help people
[03:08] <Ginsu> bob2: panels are the borders in ubuntu that hold the icons and menu.  I may have got the terms wrong.
[03:08] <virgule> my point is to have a mini-app to sit on a toolbar/taskbar/desktop icon that does just that. 1- launch renice GUI frontend 2- point&click a window/app (a box with a slider is shown to the user) 3- use the slider to renice the targeted app
[03:08] <bob2> Ginsu: it's nothing to do with nautilus
[03:09] <bob2> virgule: it's not generally possible
[03:09] <virgule> should be part of xutils
[03:09] <Riddell> lupus1010: I'm a kde developer
[03:09] <MIK3MAN> madmavric: are you talking about java?
[03:09] <bob2> Ginsu: no, I can't think how you would share the panel settings
[03:09] <Ginsu> bob2: Sorry... Gnome panels.  Are they stored someplace that can be linked?
[03:09] <gigaclon> can someone help me get ram files running mplayer ( I have w32codecs ) installed
[03:09] <lupus1010> Riddell, has kde something like the gtk_stock icons?
[03:10] <reka> MIK3MAN: he's gone .. if only he waited 30 seconds:
[03:10] <reka> for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[03:10] <bob2> Ginsu: not simply, gconf looks after it.  what's the advantage of forcing everyone to share a panel config, but not a home directory?
[03:10] <lupus1010> how do you set the printer icon in your apps for example
[03:10] <cw2> Jet2k5: use the program "gtf", for instance, if you want 1280x1024@75 run "gtf 1280 1024 75", then take the ouput and put it in your xorg.conf in your monitor section
[03:10] <Riddell> lupus1010: kdelibs comes with a bunch of icons that are guaranteed to be there
[03:10] <bob2> reka: yes, he/she complained about having to do anything like that
[03:10] <bob2> virgule: since X apps don't have to run o nthe machine running the X server
[03:10] <lupus1010> can you show me some documentation about this?
[03:10] <bob2> virgule: if you wanted to do a special case one, tho, it wouldn't be very hard
[03:11] <lupus1010> and it is in kde and not in qt?
[03:11] <cw2> Jet2k5: you may also need to change the HorizSync to something like 30-100
[03:11] <MIK3MAN> reka: I did all that and this is the msg I get < Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
[03:11] <MIK3MAN> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE [java = SableVM] 
[03:11] <MIK3MAN> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com
[03:11] <MIK3MAN> Java exec found in  /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/
[03:11] <MIK3MAN> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE  [/usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java = Error] 
[03:11] <MIK3MAN> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://java.sun.com
[03:11] <MIK3MAN> >
[03:11] <Ginsu> bob2:  Basically, I can magically put an icon on everyone's desktop without them have to create one themselves.
[03:11] <Riddell> lupus1010: yes, kde.  qt doesn't come with icons as far as I know
[03:11] <DAC1138> gigaclon, realplayer is in the apt-get ubuntu universe repo, just use that
[03:11] <virgule> it would work just like xkill but it does renice a targeted process value instead of killing it. If I were a programmer it would be done in 5 minutes im sure
[03:11] <bob2> MIK3MAN: please don't paste
[03:11] <virgule> ;)
[03:12] <bob2> virgule: it's easy to claim things you can't do are easy
[03:12] <virgule> bob2: I know a cake is tasty without baking it ;)
[03:12] <bob2> Ginsu: that's not to do with the panel.  just make everyone's ~/Desktop a symlink to /var/tmp/Desktop/ or such and put things in there
[03:12] <Cooner750> ?
[03:12] <lupus1010> Riddell, and where do you find a list with those icons?
[03:12] <Ginsu> bob2:  Thanks.  I give it try.
[03:13] <supernix> I have java installed but it wont work for mozilla
[03:13] <DAC1138> supernix, mozilla or firefox?
[03:13] <supernix> mozilla
[03:13] <supernix> i have not tried firefox yet
[03:13] <DAC1138> supernix, works fine in firefox on hoary
[03:14] <MIK3MAN> supernix: I have the same problem, says mine is installed, but I am trying to config for Azureus
[03:14] <Cooner750> hmm
[03:14] <DAC1138> supernix, i remember for mozilla, there was a ~/.mozilla/plugins folder that you hade to put symlinks in
[03:15] <imcsk8> i have a problem with openoffice, i can't see my printer
[03:15] <w0wz0rz> can someone please tell me how to fix the error "kernel panic - not syncing: no init found. try passing init= option to kernel"
[03:15] <jasoncohen> imcsk8, did you add your printer in system > administration > printing?
[03:15] <DAC1138> w0wz0rz, i have that same problem
[03:16] <Cooner750> w0wz0rx: I'm wondering the same
[03:16] <DAC1138> w0wz0rz, even linuxquestions.org cant help
[03:16] <MIK3MAN> grrr, I am gonna hit distrowatch... bbiab
[03:16] <jasoncohen> supernix, did you install firefox from mozilla's site?
[03:16] <imcsk8> yes, i can print using mozilla but when i try to print a document using openoffice in the pinter dialog i jus see "Generic printer" and not my printer
[03:16] <linuxuser> looking for a better distro? hehe
[03:16] <bob2> DAC1138: w0wz0rz what was the subject of the email you guys sent to the mailing list?
[03:16] <Cooner750> My exact error is here: http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/cooner750/darn_errors.html
[03:16] <kutucape> w0wz0rz, did you upgrade your kernel?
[03:16] <jasoncohen> imcsk8, so you added your printer and firefox/mozilla shows it by openoffice doesn't? did you restart OO after adding the printer?
[03:17] <DAC1138> bob2, no, i havent sent anything to the mailing list, except for my graphics card glitch a few months back
[03:17] <w0wz0rz> how do i do that?
[03:17] <bob2> DAC1138: I'd suggest asking there
[03:17] <Cooner750> ugh. this is buggin me
[03:17] <Cooner750> I had the same problem with Slax on a pendrive
[03:17] <DAC1138> no, im staying away from the mailing list
[03:17] <bob2> Cooner750: this is a default install?
[03:17] <imcsk8> jasoncohen, yes i even restarted the machine
[03:17] <jasoncohen> supernix, if you install their official build, you need to delete the plugins directory in firefox-installer and do "ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins plugins"
[03:17] <Cooner750> bob2: yes
[03:18] <DAC1138> i sent in my gfx glitch information, and in the next version of ubuntu, total support for my card stopped working
[03:18] <bob2> Cooner750: it never worked?
[03:18] <qt2> would someone mind looking over a script and telling me how to get it working?
[03:18] <jasoncohen> imcsk8, go to system > administration > printing
[03:18] <bob2> DAC1138: and you filed a bug report?
[03:18] <jasoncohen> make sure it shows the printer
[03:18] <Cooner750> on a USB 2.0 External Drive. Starts loading fine and it... it stops. No I just installed it tonight...
[03:18] <DAC1138> bob2, for the gfx card yes
[03:18] <supernix> actually I installed everything from the ubuntu repository
[03:18] <imcsk8> jasoncohen, (by the way i'm using hoary on AMD64) yes i can see it
[03:18] <DAC1138> bob2, and thats when it stopped working in the next ubuntu release (this was back in warty)
[03:18] <bob2> Cooner750: er, is that supported at all?
[03:18] <bob2> I somehow doubt usb modules are in the initrd
[03:18] <jasoncohen> imcsk8, what's the printer?
[03:18] <qt2> !java
[03:18] <ubotu> I heard java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[03:19] <jasoncohen> supernix, and what doesn't work?
[03:19] <Cooner750> yes. It works fine. Ubuntu starts loading and it gets to "Starting Ubuntu..." and the errors are right under that
[03:19] <supernix> brb
[03:20] <jasoncohen> supernix, how did you install java?
[03:20] <jasoncohen> supernix, if you used backports it'll create the links for you
[03:20] <jasoncohen> supernix, if you installed manually you'll have to create the links yourself
[03:20] <jasoncohen> java-package should create the links as well
[03:21] <Cooner750> I have no clue what the issue is. But it is not fun
[03:21] <kutucape> !tuxracer
[03:21] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, kutucape
[03:21] <bob2> Cooner750: try asking on the mailing list, I guess
[03:21] <kutucape> hmm, ubuntu has no tuxracer?
[03:21] <Cooner750> hmm....
[03:21] <imcsk8> jasoncohen, , it's a network printer, i'm sure it's working because i just printed a test page
[03:21] <Computer__Guru> hai, fsckers
[03:21] <reka> kutucape: it's in universe
[03:21] <reka> !tell kutucape about repositories
[03:21] <jasoncohen> imcsk8, and the only program it doesn't work with is OO?
[03:21] <imcsk8> jasoncohen, yes
[03:21] <jasoncohen> did you try printing to the generic printer
[03:22] <Cooner750> .. I thought it would work, looks like I was wrong. Ubuntu works great on a LiveCD
[03:22] <imcsk8> ok
[03:22] <jasoncohen> imcsk8, what printer?
[03:22] <jasoncohen> imcsk8, OO shows my networked Epson stylus C84 fine
[03:23] <imcsk8> jasoncohen, hp inkjet 1100
[03:23] <imcsk8> jasoncohen, the generic printer does not print
[03:24] <imcsk8> in my other machine i can see that printer without problem using openoffice, cuould the openoffice for hoary on amd64 be broken??
[03:24] <jasoncohen> imcsk8, i don't know what to tell you...sorry
[03:24] <Computer__Guru> im bored
[03:24] <jasoncohen> imcsk8, the amd64 openoffice is just compiled for 32 bit mode- so it's really like i386
[03:25] <Cooner750> computer__guru: same here
[03:25] <Computer__Guru> and im stoned
[03:25] <imcsk8> jasoncohen, don't worry i have like an hour or so looking through the ubuntu forums
[03:25] <imcsk8> thanks
[03:25] <Cooner750> And i'm having flippant issues with Ubuntu
[03:25] <vladuz976> my man pages need sudo to access them. anybody know how to fix that?
[03:25] <Computer__Guru> like what?
[03:25] <qt2> would someone mind looking over a script and telling me how to get it working?
[03:26] <Cooner750> Ugh: http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/cooner750/darn_errors.html
[03:26] <Cooner750> stupid thing
[03:26] <bob2> qt2: why don't you just post the url and aks your question?
[03:26] <jasoncohen> imcsk8, this is a shot in the dark but do you get the same problem with OO2?
[03:27] <Cooner750> I spent all day partitioning a HD and then I get this. A kernal panic...
[03:28] <bob2> you're more likely to get an answer if you ask on the list now
[03:28] <bob2> rather than in a week when you're a broke nshell of a human being
[03:28] <Cooner750> bbs
[03:29] <Computer__Guru> what's the name of the x-based sys-v init.d editor?
[03:30] <DAC1138> x based? init.d editor? afaik, init.d can be edited with any text editor
[03:30] <Computer__Guru> it's called ksysv
[03:30] <Computer__Guru> :)
[03:30] <meuserj> I've been playing with breezy, and I'm having some X issues...
[03:30] <bob2> no, you don't use a text editor for that
[03:30] <vladuz976> ubotu: parsing error?
[03:30] <ubotu> vladuz976: I don't know
[03:30] <DAC1138> meuserj, thats why its still in beta
[03:30] <Computer__Guru> you make symlinks
[03:31] <vladuz976> i  know
[03:31] <gigaclon> I installed the realplayer on universe and it won't run
[03:31] <Davey> If I install the kubuntu meta-package, will it replace GDM too?
[03:31] <gigaclon> it just sticks in the process list
[03:32] <kutucape> meuserj, X still broken in breezy
[03:32] <Computer__Guru> ksysv is nice :)
[03:32] <vladuz976> ubotu: green=red
[03:32] <ubotu> I don't know, vladuz976
[03:33] <meuserj> kutucape: it seems to be.. I had it running fine on a vmware virtual machine, but when I install it on a REAL machine, I get X problems....
[03:33] <reka> Computer__Guru: rcconf?
[03:33] <vladuz976> reka: i am smoking crack
[03:33] <kinus> im having some problems with ubuntu, if i start up my machine without the network cabe plugged in it doesnt resolve the localhost...anyway around this?
[03:33] <Computer__Guru> reka: ksysv
[03:34] <kutucape> meuserj, yes, i can't run gdm, so i started X via startx
[03:34] <bob2> kinus: paste your /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/hosts to #flood
[03:34] <kutucape> but so far so good after hacking around
[03:34] <meuserj> xfont issues.. and reinstalling xfont-base gives me errors about mkfontdir not existing, which doesn't seem to exist anywhere.
[03:34] <kinus> k, bob2...2 secs
[03:35] <bob2> meuserj: lots of X things in breezy are broken at the moment
[03:35] <meuserj> kutucape: I'm using console apps for now.. irssi
[03:35] <bob2> just put things on hold and sit it out
[03:35] <Computer__Guru> what is acpid?
[03:35] <Computer__Guru> dbus-1?
[03:35] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: You awake?
[03:35] <gigaclon> any reason why realplayer from the universe repository won't run after I installed it
[03:35] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: yo
[03:35] <Computer__Guru> what is all this crap doing in my init system
[03:35] <bob2> Computer__Guru: it manages ACPI events
[03:36] <Madpilot> hi all
[03:36] <bob2> Computer__Guru: if you don't know what it does, leave it alone
[03:36] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: vaguely, I have a terrible headcold
[03:36] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: You reckon vicnet might be interested in mirroring 2 500Mb livecd isos?
[03:36] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: <heh>
[03:36] <reka> gigaclon: you running it through terminal or from menu?
[03:36] <kutucape> hi Madpilot
[03:36] <gigaclon> menu
[03:36] <Computer__Guru> i dont believe in that... my debian install didnt have all this crap
[03:36] <reka> HrdwrBoB: you're in melbourne aren't you?
[03:36] <gigaclon> it just sticks in the process list
[03:36] <HrdwrBoB> reka: correct
[03:36] <reka> :)
[03:37] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: heh, I'll see, we're currently renegotiating out link
[03:37] <reka> not surprising that you're ill then
[03:37] <bob2> Computer__Guru: and if you installed sarge, you'd have most of it
[03:37] <gigaclon> same thing happens with the terminal
[03:37] <HrdwrBoB> reka: why's that?
[03:37] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: It's 2 isos for a new distro aimed at schools, being developed by Open Source Victoria. LAMP LiveCD.
[03:37] <gigaclon> it just hangs there with no output at all,
[03:37] <bob2> Computer__Guru: anyway, if you don't know wwhat they are, you shouldn't be disabling them.  they all have documentation, if only in the form of their package description.
[03:38] <Computer__Guru> i was running sid and i had like apache, mysqld, and kdm
[03:38] <IIIEars> LAMP - live? - cool
[03:38] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: oh, well that's not too bad
[03:38] <jcarr> d'oh... is there a freenode channel about job hunting?
[03:38] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: we could probably do that
[03:38] <bob2> Computer__Guru: you had a lot more than that if your system was useful
[03:38] <abarbaccia> hey- are there packages for madwifi in ubuntu?
[03:38] <cafuego> IIIEars: yeah. Insert cd, boot, be asked to wipe HDD< have cd create accounts for students, with vservers.
[03:38] <IIIEars> mkisof would make an uncrackable webserver no?
[03:38] <zenlunatic> jcarr: i doubt it
[03:38] <DAC1138> cafuego, arent there already like 10 distros aimed at schools?
[03:38] <jcarr> lol.. damn
[03:38] <Computer__Guru> it ran ;)
[03:38] <DAC1138> cafuego, like college linux?
[03:38] <bob2> abarbaccia: the ubuntu kernels include the madwifie drivers already
[03:38] <DAC1138> cafuego, and puppy linux for the lower educated schools
[03:38] <cafuego> DAC1138: No idea, I just try to arrange hosting for it <heh>
[03:38] <zenlunatic> DAC1138: i don't see what defines a "school" distro?
[03:39] <DAC1138> zenlunatic, pc/mac compatibility easily or out of the box
[03:39] <cafuego> zenlunatic: It needs to be able to be used/admined by IT teachers.
[03:39] <DAC1138> zenlunatic, something meant to run on older hardware, like slackware
[03:39] <DAC1138> zenlunatic, lots of things
[03:39] <IIIEars> "lower educated" skoolz?
[03:39] <Computer__Guru> but i'll give yout he benefit of the doubt, and leave everything there except cupsys and gdm
[03:39] <abarbaccia> bob2, i got a dlink card that uses the atheros chipset - but it didnt recognise it - do i gottta tell it to load the modules?
[03:39] <DAC1138> IIIEars, like elemantary or middle school
[03:39] <DAC1138> man, does everyone need an english class again?
[03:39] <Computer__Guru> and ill add apache, mysql, and ssh
[03:39] <IIIEars> Ah - just being silly. - wide grin
[03:39] <bob2> abarbaccia: perhaps it's a dodgy one that needs the acx driver
[03:40] <meuserj> Computer__Guru: why remove cupsys and gdm?  is this not a desktop system?
[03:40] <abarbaccia> bob2, im reading a lot of posts that just say madwifi
[03:40] <bob2> abarbaccia: those people are confused then
[03:40] <Computer__Guru> meuserj: i dont have a printer, and i dont use gdm to manage my xsession
[03:40] <ray_> what happened to java in the repos?
[03:40] <bob2> and probably won't be of much help to you, unfortunately
[03:40] <cafuego> crap, where did my vim terminal go?
[03:41] <gigaclon> GRR
[03:41] <IIIEars> vim vim-oosed?
[03:41] <gigaclon> why is realplayer a piece of shit
[03:41] <gigaclon> i never had this much trouble in windows
[03:41] <bob2> Real has always been terrible
[03:41] <bob2> just use mplayer
[03:42] <reka> gigaclon: run it in terminal and see if it outputs any errors
[03:42] <gigaclon> no errors
[03:42] <meuserj> RealPlayer is utter crap
[03:42] <hybrid_goth> meuserj i agree
[03:42] <gigaclon> /usr/bin/realplay: line 81:  8526 Killed                  $REALPLAYBIN "$@"
[03:43] <gigaclon> yeah mplayer isn't working either with this .ram file I got
[03:43] <meuserj> stupid proprietary codecs....
[03:43] <hybrid_goth> meuserj try helix
[03:43] <abarbaccia> bob2, i loaded the drivers and am rebooting (compiled them) wish me luck!
[03:43] <Madpilot> there are lots of other music players in Ubuntu...
[03:43] <DAC1138> am i the only one who likes realplayer?
[03:44] <DAC1138> mplayer never works for me
[03:44] <gigaclon> can you get it to run?
[03:44] <DAC1138> even with all those codecs installed
[03:44] <DAC1138> gigaclon, yeah, its running fine here
[03:44] <IIIEars> DAC1138 - hm - how to be diplomatic about this. YES!
[03:44] <gigaclon> DAC1138 http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=2
[03:44] <gigaclon> can you hear that
[03:44] <DAC1138> IIIEars, because you guys wouldnt know good software if it tore out your eyes
[03:45] <gigaclon> click listen
[03:45] <DAC1138> gigaclon, no, because im not on the ubuntu machine, im on mandrake 10
[03:45] <IIIEars> heh - .ram format - yep sounds good let's reinvent the wheel.
[03:45] <DAC1138> my ubuntu machine is being restored
[03:45] <kinus_> bob2: i was disconnected, will paste in #flood now
[03:45] <Madpilot> cool, they're really going to beam Scotty up: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4702503.stm
[03:45] <hanasaki> anyone use mono? get monodevleop to run on ubuntu?
[03:46] <bob2> hanasaki: it runs fine on hoary
[03:46] <Madpilot> hanasaki: I run it to run Muine in Hoary
[03:46] <DAC1138> IIIEars, the same could be said for any video format
[03:46] <hanasaki> bob2:  i am gettgn an exception when i monodevelolpe.  can i paste it ot you in flood?
[03:46] <hanasaki> Madpilot: what si muine?
[03:46] <bob2> hanasaki: ok...
[03:46] <meuserj> hanasaki: it works fine if you are 32bit, but AMD64 mono is broken.. at least it was last time I tried.
[03:47] <gigaclon> can anyone get the stream on that page to work
[03:47] <IIIEars> DAC1138, - true enough - .ram was better when most used slower dial up connections
[03:47] <Madpilot> hanasaki: a music player. similar to Rythymbox
[03:47] <hanasaki> 32bit here... i am on a barton amd
[03:47] <j_fletcher> how do i get the "Weather and Theme sensors" ? I used apt-get to install gdesklets-data with which the themes came, but they're still missing or not working...
[03:47] <Madpilot> except I can't get rythymbox to run right...
[03:47] <DAC1138> IIIEars, its better than .wmv, ill say that
[03:47] <bob2> I wish people would stop saying "32-bit" when they mean "i386"
[03:47] <gigaclon> http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=2
[03:47] <hanasaki> thanks Madpilot
[03:48] <hanasaki> mono is c# only right?
[03:48] <IIIEars> DAC1138, - geez - did you want to put in the place of defending microsoft? - Arrrgh
[03:48] <robert_pectol> gigaclon:   I just tried... doesn't seem to be streaming at the moment.
[03:48] <DAC1138> IIIEars, will i get killed for defending them?
[03:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> whos defending microsoft? O_O
[03:49] <DAC1138> IIIEars, last time i checked, US citizens were allowed to have their own opinions
[03:49] <DAC1138> ChurcH_of_FoamY, oh god, someone says microsoft and you guys flip out
[03:49] <hanasaki> bob2:  ready in flood?
[03:49] <IIIEars> nah - but your linux communtiy member card will be folded, spindled, and mutilated - lol
[03:49] <bob2> of course
[03:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes and opinions are like a$$holes every one has one :p
[03:49] <DAC1138> ChurcH_of_FoamY, i said "IIIEars, its better than .wmv, ill say that" refering to .ram being better than .wmv
[03:50] <meuserj> DAC1138: dude, chill
[03:50] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars heh
[03:50] <Computer__Guru> DAC1138: we're allowed to have our own opinion, so long as it doesnt go against the ambitions of our leaders
[03:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm just playing around lol
[03:50] <bob2> hanasaki: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:50] <gigaclon> lol at Computer__Guru
[03:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> you know i have used windows before and i have never worked with a .ram file what is it?
[03:51] <gigaclon> real audio
[03:51] <meuserj> ChurcH_of_FoamY: real media
[03:51] <Computer__Guru> you think speech is free? walk out your front door and yell that you think someone really should killt he president
[03:51] <Madpilot> what's that lovely quote? "Everyone is entitled to my opinion." Yeah, that's it...
[03:51] <Computer__Guru> see how long you stay free
[03:51] <IIIEars> .Real Audio Media file
[03:51] <DAC1138> ChurcH_of_FoamY, .ram is realplayer, nothing windows specific. its a video format used for streaming video/audio content on the web
[03:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh i'm shure linux will find a way to play that in the future
[03:51] <hanasaki> done
[03:51] <DAC1138> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you're a little behind, it already can
[03:51] <Madpilot> ChurcH_of_FoamY: it can already, w/ the right non-Free codecs
[03:52] <gigaclon> i can't get it to work
[03:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh no kidding wow
[03:52] <DAC1138> gigaclon, try helix player
[03:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea i am a little bit behind heh
[03:52] <IIIEars> It was innovative because dial-up users got decent sound with it.
[03:52] <abarbaccia> anybody know why ndiswrapper crashes when you go to modprobe it?
[03:52] <gigaclon> i downloaded w32codec and mplayer and realplayer and helix player and streamplayer
[03:52] <gigaclon> try that it won't run it
[03:52] <bob2> abarbaccia: are you using a default kernel?
[03:52] <DAC1138> gigaclon, thats linux multimedia for you
[03:52] <meuserj> gigaclon: get realplayer10, it's on the same site as helix player...
[03:53] <meuserj> gigaclon: helix player and realplayer10 are the same thing, but realplayer10 includes the proprietary codecs.
[03:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i used to like realplayer untill it started spying on me >.<
[03:53] <gigaclon> cept, meuserj it freezes every time i try to play somthing
[03:53] <abarbaccia> bob2, yea - the whole system haults when i go to modprobe it - very odd
[03:53] <bob2> god that's a stupid site
[03:53] <hanasaki> bob2:  any thoughts on my mono?
[03:53] <bob2> I'd expect better from npr
[03:53] <bob2> hanasaki: don't use backports
[03:53] <abarbaccia> bob2, i think im going to upgrade the kernel to a different one and see what i get
[03:53] <bob2> hanasaki: go see if all your mono stuff is from ubuntu or not
[03:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um whats modprobe?
[03:54] <Madpilot> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Real on Win was a much better-behaved app after you locked it behind a ZoneAlarm firewall...
[03:54] <hanasaki> bob2:  used backports to get the gaim 1.3.1
[03:54] <hanasaki> bob2:  how do i do that check?
[03:54] <bob2> hanasaki: by hand, I'd assume
[03:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes thats true but it's sad that it has to be done like that
[03:54] <reka> gigaclon: is it possible it's a sound issue?
[03:54] <bob2> or use apt-cache policy
[03:55] <bob2> gigaclon: works fine for me
[03:55] <hanasaki> bob2:  apt-show-version on the installed package?
[03:55] <bob2> gigaclon: with gxine
[03:55] <bob2> hanasaki: yeah
[03:55] <IIIEars> lol - is there a cross platform "bonsai buddy"?
[03:55] <hanasaki> mono-assemblies-base/unknown uptodate 1.1.7-0ubuntu4~5.04ubp1
[03:55] <hanasaki>    unknown?
[03:55] <Madpilot> ChurcH_of_FoamY: RealAlternative was (slightly) illegal but great for Windows
[03:55] <bob2> gigaclon: they're talking about how sexy ankles were in the early 20th centry
[03:56] <bob2> hanasaki: there you go
[03:56] <eathand> can i ask a question?
[03:56] <Computer__Guru> like since i dont use pppoe or any other kind of dialup technology, can i get rid of ppp?
[03:56] <bob2> hanasaki: complain to the backports people, I guess
[03:56] <cw2> IIIEars: yeah, you start it with "rm -Rf /*"
[03:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> you know i don't care if it was or wasen't but it did work pritty well
[03:56] <bob2> eathand: of course...
[03:56] <hanasaki> ah
[03:56] <eathand> thanks bob2
[03:56] <hanasaki> and just use any mono from hoary nonbakcports?
[03:56] <hanasaki> eathand?
[03:56] <bob2> hanasaki: from ubuntu, yes
[03:56] <eathand> lovin ubuntu, where to find info on installing packages
[03:56] <eathand> eathand = long story
[03:57] <eathand> ubuntu yes
[03:57] <Madpilot> eathand: Synaptic
[03:57] <bob2> eathand: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:57] <eathand> thanks, want to install open office beta 1.9, can I?
[03:57] <gigaclon> it could be
[03:57] <gigaclon> gxine?
[03:58] <Discipulus> What up peeps?
[03:58] <Wckdkl0wn> is it possible to view a webcam in yahoo with gaim?
[03:58] <bob2> eathand: in hoary, yes
[03:58] <bob2> gigaclon: indeed
[03:58] <eathand> great, thanks
[03:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what about with msn messenger ?
[03:58] <eathand> hows bout Nvu?
[03:58] <bob2> eathand: not in ubuntu
[03:58] <hanasaki> bob2:  backports is evil?
[03:58] <hanasaki> ever had a need for it yourself?
[03:59] <bob2> hanasaki: no, theyre just sometimes crap
[03:59] <bob2> nope
[03:59] <gigaclon> reka how would know if it was a sound issue
[03:59] <eathand> thanks again, any recs for a decent wysiwyg editor for ubuntu?
[03:59] <hanasaki> somehow  i couldnt get the gaim 1.3.1 /wo it before
[03:59] <bob2> hanasaki: sure, 1.3.1 isn't in haory
[04:00] <hanasaki> ah.
[04:00] <bob2> and never will be
[04:00] <Computer__Guru> bob2: i dont use dialup, do i need the ppp init script started at every runlevel?
[04:00] <Madpilot> eathand: it's not WYSIWYG, but I really like Screem for HTML work.
[04:00] <bob2> only you can answer that
[04:00] <bob2> probably not
[04:01] <eathand> thanks mp
[04:01] <reka> gigaclon: e.g. xmms/bmp usually freezes when playing an mp3 file if the output plugin is not set to esound or alsa
[04:01] <eathand> will work in ubuntu?
[04:01] <bob2> Computer__Guru: actually, leave it alone
[04:01] <reka> gigaclon: thought it might be something similar
[04:01] <Computer__Guru> ugh
[04:01] <Computer__Guru> allt hese processes
[04:01] <Computer__Guru> heh
[04:01] <bob2> Computer__Guru: dude
[04:01] <jurgonh> since i have changed from Windows to Linux my DVD-drive is muuuuch slooover... why? what can i do about it?
[04:01] <bob2> you're out of your depth, it seems
[04:01] <Computer__Guru> whats it doin?
[04:01] <bob2> read the top 10 lines of the ppp init script
[04:01] <nmorse> Anyone in here know why one might get a 'Permission denied' error using 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'?
[04:02] <nmorse> Don't leave, Church!
[04:02] <hanasaki> bob thanks.. mon is running
[04:02] <bob2> it doesn't do anything
[04:02] <gigaclon> bob2: YOU ARE A GODSEND!!!!!
[04:02] <Computer__Guru> i see
[04:02] <Madpilot> !dma
[04:03] <DAC1138> eathand, wysiwyg html editors?
[04:03] <Madpilot> hmmm... is ubotu responding to all msgs by private chat now?
[04:03] <DAC1138> eathand, try nvu.com or like he said, screem is good, so is quanta
[04:03] <bob2> hanaGone: yo ushould drop them a line saying that their packages don't work
[04:03] <Madpilot> eathand: there's also Bluefish, but it's also a handcoding editor, not wizzy
[04:04] <Madpilot> !html
[04:04] <Computer__Guru> brb
[04:04] <eathand> i'm old, lazy and new to linux, lookin for wysiwyg
[04:04] <eathand> used nvu in win and like it.
[04:05] <gigaclon> wysiwyg what?
[04:05] <Madpilot> eathand: I think there are .deb files for nvu
[04:05] <zenlunatic> eathand: editor for what?
[04:05] <eathand> html
[04:05] <jurgonh> since i have changed from Windows to Linux my DVD-drive is muuuuch slooover... why? what can i do about it?
[04:05] <bimberi> eathand: if you must have it, nvu is available in (the evil) backports
[04:05] <nmorse> I thought my friend was lying when he said his wireless questions were ignored on here
[04:05] <nmorse> So much for the friendly support community
[04:05] <zenlunatic> nmorse: no one owes you anything
[04:05] <bob2> nmorse: please don't be so silly
[04:05] <cw2> jurgonh: enable dma using the hdparm tool
[04:05] <Madpilot> ubotu tell jurgonh about dma
[04:05] <reka> jurgonh: enabled DMA?
[04:06] <Ginsu> Anyone: newbie question--- what does "~/" refer to?  Is it the home directory?
[04:06] <gigaclon> wireless is the single biggest issue in Linux period
[04:06] <bob2> nmorse: shockingly, nto every question can be simply answered on irc
[04:06] <kevin> Amaranth: was it you who lost the wireless when getting the mouse pad working?
[04:06] <nmorse> Of course no one owes me anything
[04:06] <bob2> nmorse: do you want all 404 people to say "Sorry, don't know?"
[04:06] <jcarr> nmorse, eh!? Ubuntu probably has the friendliest community you'll find...
[04:06] <zenlunatic> Ginsu: thats the root, the highest part of the disk heirarchy
[04:06] <reka> nmorse: not true ... just that the wireless 'experts' might not be active atm
[04:06] <bimberi> Ginsu: yes
[04:06] <cw2> nmorse: just cause we don't know doesn't mean we aren't friendly
[04:06] <jcarr> nmorse, you want a rude community? Go try #linux on undernet
[04:06] <bob2> nmorse: asking on the list is a way better idea
[04:06] <Ginsu> Thanks
[04:06] <zenlunatic> nmorse: go try the BSD community you'll come back crying
[04:06] <jcarr> zenlunatic, lol
[04:06] <nmorse> I've been hanging out in #kubuntu for a couple months answering questions and I've never seen a day like this
[04:06] <gigaclon> jcarr, I agree
[04:06] <DAC1138> nmorse, you know, we answer a lot of questions, it gets tiring seeing the same question that cant be answered
[04:07] <cw2> nmorse: someone could have said "well obviouly you just have the rights"
[04:07] <bob2> #kubuntu is far less active than here
[04:07] <wm_eddie> :( Breezy needs to get X working again.  I need to test out how the newer stuff works on my laptop.
[04:07] <nmorse> And, ##freebsd is a very helpful channel
[04:07] <zenlunatic> nmorse: what is your question anyway?
[04:07] <zenlunatic> nmorse: good for ##freebsd
[04:07] <DAC1138> zenlunatic, oh yes, BSD. i got devoiced and booted form #freebsd for proving a guy wrong. turns out he was an op and didnt like it
[04:07] <zenlunatic> DAC1138: heh
[04:07] <nmorse> Why would 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' give a permission error?
[04:07] <Madpilot> DAC1138: heh... that was subtle on the ops part...
[04:08] <Cooner750> back
[04:08] <gigaclon> nmorse, look at the ubuntu forums, every second question was about wireless
[04:08] <bob2> a "permission error" is kinda vague, you'd be better telling us the actual error
[04:08] <nmorse> FATAL: Permission denied
[04:08] <nmorse> Not a hard error to mistake
[04:08] <bob2> awesome, thanks
[04:09] <DAC1138> Madpilot, yeah. i proved the guy wrong, ge gets ops, and devoices me. i leave, some back, i have my voice, i ask a few more questions, they devoice me because they didnt want me in there i guess, so i left. the did a /whois, followed me around the different freenode channels i was in and harassed me
[04:09] <Cooner750> Could someone explain what
[04:09] <Cooner750> oops
[04:09] <neighborlee> been a bit since i've been in linux and it  seems synatpic update client is confused as it is reccommending I do dist-upgrade to iron out dependencies..i'm using breezy  so while expected such things im wondering if I should just bail at this point and reinstall ? ;-))
[04:09] <BeefTube> anyone know when ubuntu or Debian will get blender 2.37a in the apt repository? TIA :D
[04:09] <Madpilot> DAC1138: that's pathetic. remind me not to bother ever using freeBSD... ;)
[04:10] <Cooner750> Could someone explain what "Kernal Panic - Not Syncing: Attempted to Kill init" means? (seems like a real descriptive error... :-/. )
[04:10] <bob2> BeefTube: is it in breezy?
[04:10] <qt2> ...is there a way to extrazt .7z files in linux?
[04:10] <DAC1138> Madpilot, yeah, thats when i gave up on BSD. i didnt even download an ISO
[04:10] <neighborlee> BeefTube, might need to write maintainer I guess or just download from blender3d.org
[04:10] <BeefTube> dont think so
[04:10] <bob2> Cooner750: that's not the error, that was the previous line
[04:10] <bob2> qt2: yes, get 7zip
[04:10] <bob2> neighborlee: lots of things are uninstallable, just wait for a while ( = days)
[04:10] <DAC1138> Madpilot, that was a bad example to set for the BSD community
[04:10] <BeefTube> yea, I am 64bit, i need APT version... chroot is too complex for me 8)
[04:10] <abarbaccia> hey all - bob2 im still having trouble loading ndiswrapper
[04:10] <bob2> awesome
[04:11] <nmorse> So much for the 'could you reask the question and we'll provide a response' idea
[04:11] <DAC1138> neighborlee, why are you using breezy?
[04:11] <Madpilot> will the Linspire/Debian version of nvu run in Hoary?
[04:11] <bob2> nmorse: good god,shut up
[04:11] <DAC1138> neighborlee, anything it provides over the stable hoary?
[04:11] <neighborlee>  bob2: yes as I suspected..I just can't  stay out oflinux that long and the OS seems rather iffy at best ( Again I expected such things)..are we talking DAYS or just a few days do you know...
[04:11] <bob2> I'm reading the damn kernel source for you
[04:11] <neighborlee> DAC1138, DUDE ;))heh
 yes :)
[04:11] <DAC1138> Madpilot, yeah, im using that version
[04:11] <bob2> nmorse: stop whinging
[04:11] <bob2> Madpilot: probably not
[04:12] <neighborlee> DAC1138, well no.I waS enticed to help out with new release (reports) and I was curious about the new features anyway
[04:12] <Cooner750> anyone know what this means: "/sbin/init: 428: Cannot open /dev/console: No Such File"
[04:12] <bob2> neighborlee: "iffy at best"? you mean breezy? yes, it's under heavy development.
[04:12] <DAC1138> neighborlee, ah. what new features?
[04:12] <Cooner750> and whatever this is
[04:12] <Madpilot> DAC1138: thnx. might have to see what the fuss is about. always been an HTML/CSS/PHP handcoder, never tried any of the wizzy editors
[04:12] <Cooner750> "pivot_root: No such file or directory"
[04:12] <neighborlee> bob2: yup I realized...np
[04:12] <bob2> Cooner750: that means /dev isn't mounted properly for some reason
[04:12] <bob2> Cooner750: it never booted prpoerly?
[04:13] <Cooner750> nope. I had just got done installing it and booted it. And it done that the first time
[04:13] <TokenBad> in xchat is there a way to auto receive files?
[04:13] <DAC1138> Madpilot, yeah, its not a .deb or anything, its a prebuilt binary. it runs perfectly on here
[04:13] <neighborlee> DAC1138, frankly now I dont recall but I know there are several...if I recall ? one of them is slightly more refined booting (faSter ?>)
[04:13] <Cooner750> and everytime
[04:13] <bob2> Cooner750: so you never made it to the second stage of the installer?
[04:13] <IIIEars> Help for the slow DVD drive. - especially with nforce2 chipsets  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=263840#post263840
[04:13] <Cooner750> bob2: no
[04:13] <DAC1138> neighborlee, lol. im sold when people say faster booting
[04:14] <DAC1138> neighborlee, when suse popped out 9.0, they said it boots 2 times faster. i ran online, bought my personal edition (not pro) and get it, and it turns out, it was fasle advertising
[04:14] <neighborlee> DAC1138, well make sure to verify  ..im not 100% sure thats one of the improvements but it seemed like it was...( that is from memory)
[04:14] <DAC1138> neighborlee, the 2 times faster boot was only for pro, which they didnt say on their website or amazon.com
[04:14] <neighborlee> DAC1138, I migbht be thinking of hoary I dunno..
[04:14] <DAC1138> neighborlee, hoary i konw boots really fast
[04:14] <neighborlee> yup
[04:14] <hybrid_goth> could someone give me insight on ubuntu light?
[04:15] <bob2> hybrid_goth: talk to the guy working on it, it's not official related to ubuntu
[04:15] <neighborlee> DAC1138, good ole suse...suse pro 9.3 I hear is kewl but I never did like their IRC channel much..
 it is Ubuntu only lighter... I am not quite sure
[04:15] <neighborlee> DAC1138, plus i've grown to really like apt it seems <G>
[04:15] <DAC1138> neighborlee, their irc help is okay, ive gotten problems solved there
[04:15] <DAC1138> neighborlee, thats whats keeping me away from suse, the apt system
[04:15] <neighborlee> yeah same here..I had other issues
[04:16] <neighborlee> DAC1138, heh yeah
[04:16] <DAC1138> neighborlee, but otherwise, suse is a very good distro. i still recommend ubuntu though to the n00bs
 you can get APT from SUSE also I think..
[04:16] <neighborlee> DAC1138, I think apt is invading the known linux universe .harhar
[04:16] <DAC1138> BeefTube, you can, but i could never get it setup
[04:16] <SDFH_Linux>  what is now called windows longhorn is going to be called windows vista
[04:16] <neighborlee> BeefTube, yes. apt4rpm\
[04:16] <BeefTube> neat :)
[04:16] <DAC1138> BeefTube, there's also RPM repositories, which acts like apt-get, which never worked too well
[04:16] <neighborlee> SDFH_Linux, gez can't they make up their minds ?lol
[04:17] <SDFH_Linux> thats it
[04:17] <bob2> nmorse: what does 'grep root /etc/passwd' print?
[04:17] <Madpilot> i've always called it "Windows 2010", figure that's when it'll actually make it out... :)
[04:17] <BeefTube> I use Ubuntu and kanotix... verry nice with APT
[04:17] <DAC1138> neighborlee, its apt now, but i have a feeling emerge will catch on
[04:17] <jurgonh> I get this error message when i try to enable DMA on my DVD-rom:  sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[04:17] <jurgonh> /dev/hda:
[04:17] <jurgonh>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[04:17] <jurgonh>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[04:17] <jurgonh>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[04:17] <bob2> jurgonh: please read the topic, and do not paste things here again
[04:18] <neighborlee> BeefTube, faik ubuntu is much closer to debian which is always a good thing for dependency handling <wink> ..faik anyway
[04:18] <jurgonh> ok.. sry
[04:18] <bob2> nmorse: and 'dmesg | tail -n10' to #flood
[04:18] <DAC1138> hey, who was asking about realplayer?
[04:18] <cw2> jurgonh: pay atention man, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=263840
[04:18] <BeefTube> yea, kanotix it debian based also.... in a pinch I can just use DEB :)
[04:18] <neighborlee> DAC1138, dunno i've seen far too many emerge complaints but long as it improves...
[04:18] <DAC1138> i found out whats wrong. mine was working because i had just run "killall esd" thats why my realplayer was working
[04:19] <nmorse> hang on bob2, I'm trying something else right now
[04:19] <DAC1138> neighborlee, apt wasnt perfect when it first started, neither is emerge, but as it gets older, it will become more refined and faster, and improve as apt did
[04:19] <airmikey> anyone here have the ,dell 6000d laptop ?
[04:20] <neighborlee> those trying blender first time or pros alike should consider going to #blender as alot of good help can be had there( and nice people like in #ubuntu) ...just a eensy FYI to those using it ;-))))
[04:20] <DAC1138> IIIEars, do you remember who was asking about realplayer not working?
[04:20] <reka> gigaclon iirc
[04:20] <DAC1138> neighborlee, yeah, i havent helped in blender in a while, been busy on that project
[04:20] <zenlunatic> neighborlee: heh thanks for the FYI
[04:20] <neighborlee> anytime  ;00
[04:20] <DAC1138> neighborlee, im there, but im idle, lol. i help ocassionally when i see someone
[04:20] <neighborlee> DAC1138, :)
[04:21] <kevin> IIEars: I got a faster laptop today, yahoooooooo I am getting better with setting this wireless stuff up lol
[04:21] <neighborlee> DAC1138, yup you have been very helpful
[04:21] <wm_eddie> Does anybody know if bad things will happen to my laptop if I use kernel 2.6.12.3?
[04:21] <kevin> IIIEars: I got a faster laptop today, yahoooooooo I am getting better with setting this wireless stuff up lol
[04:21] <kevin> sorry for the mane mistake
[04:22] <kevin> name^^
[04:22] <bob2> wm_eddie: it won't work as well, if you're compiling it yourself
[04:22] <nalioth> evenin y'all
[04:22] <wm_eddie> bob2: Yeah, well sound and suspend are very important.
[04:23] <wm_eddie> does hoary's udev work with 2.6.12?
[04:23] <bob2> probably not
[04:23] <bob2> nor will your wireless, most likely
[04:23] <fuoco> i'm trying to install ubuntu on a retarded machine, 32Mb ram. when i go to expert and run a shell i can't seem to have /dev/hd* for my hard-disk. anyone knows what can i do to get that ?
[04:23] <IIIEars> DAC1138 - real player freezes? - gigaclon - needed to search the log sorry about being slow
[04:23] <wm_eddie> damn.  I wish I could try breezy out....
[04:24] <DAC1138> IIIEars, i forgot to enable logging
[04:24] <DAC1138> IIIEars, got it enabled now
[04:24] <bob2> wm_eddie: why do you want 2.6.12?
[04:24] <DAC1138> gigaclon, got the realplayer problem. try "killall esd" and run realplayer
[04:24] <_simple> hmm, i need help i get "fatal error [-618] : couldn't open xpistub library" when trying to use firefox 1.0.6 installer
[04:25] <bob2> sounds like the tarball was broken
[04:26] <_simple> k
[04:26] <wm_eddie> bob2: from what I can tell, sound on the Sharp MM20 works with kernel 2.6.9
[04:26] <wm_eddie> 2.6.10 broke it.
[04:26] <wm_eddie> second I need to get swsuspend2
[04:27] <bob2> why "need"?
[04:27] <gigaclon> gxine works
[04:27] <goodman> how can i get the gnome wireless applet?
[04:28] <abarbaccia> how do you check signal strengths with a wireless card?
[04:28] <abarbaccia> (i got mine working) bob2 ndiswrapper was the way to go, and i had to remove all other modules and compile...odd but whatever
[04:28] <wm_eddie> bob2: because suspend doesn't work.
[04:29] <bob2> goodman: install netapplet
[04:29] <bob2> abarbaccia: with iwconfig
[04:29] <bob2> ouch
[04:29] <goodman> bob2: is that the gnome applet?
[04:29] <bob2> wm_eddie: doesn't work?
[04:29] <bob2> goodman: indeed
[04:29] <goodman> bob2: thanks a lot
[04:30] <wm_eddie> bob2: The laptop suspends but it doesn't wake up in a usable state.
[04:30] <abarbaccia> bob2, iwconfig doesnt list the strength of the signals around me
[04:30] <teferi> abarbaccia: the answer is, unfortunately, that there current is no universal way of doing so
[04:30] <kevin> OMG do I love having a faster laptop lol, things go much quicker than it does on a p1 233 lol
[04:30] <teferi> the meaning of the signal strength that iwconfig shows you varies wildly by driver
[04:30] <kdoggy> does anybody know how the heck to install codecs for totem on a fresh install of hoary?
[04:31] <abarbaccia> teferi, this sucks
[04:31] <Burgundavia> kdoggy, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:31] <Burgundavia> kdoggy, you need totem-xine and w32codecs
[04:31] <goodman> bob2: should it be in the add to panel list immediately?
[04:31] <teferi> abarbaccia: yes
[04:31] <teferi> abarbaccia: yes it does
[04:32] <Computer__Guru> there
[04:32] <Computer__Guru> sysv audit complete
[04:32] <kdoggy> i downloaded the w32codecs, but i have no idea where things are supposed to go or if i need to force totem to recognize them. I've placed the codecs in /usr/local/lib/codecs.
[04:32] <DrKayBee> kdoggy did you run gst-register-0.8?
[04:32] <Computer__Guru> kdoggy: you need to rebuild totem to recognize them, i would imagine
[04:32] <bob2> wm_eddie: have you filed a bug?
[04:32] <Computer__Guru> or maybe not
[04:33] <Computer__Guru> you have to recompile mplayer to see the w32 codecs
[04:33] <bob2> kdoggy: no, /usr/lib/win32 is the place to put them
[04:33] <wm_eddie> I'm waiting till breezy's X works then I'll file bugs there
[04:33] <bob2> abarbaccia: some drivers don't support that
[04:33] <nickrud> kdoggy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo tells you how to add your codect to totem-xine
[04:33] <Computer__Guru> bob2: dont you need to recompile mplayer in order to get w32codecs?
[04:33] <nickrud> *codecs
[04:33] <DrKayBee> anyone have any experience with the HAS and dbus stuff in Hoary?
[04:34] <kdoggy> thanks for the guidance. does anybody know of a link to recompile totem? I'll check the ones you have posted so far.
[04:34] <DrKayBee> HAL and dbus
[04:34] <bob2> Computer__Guru: no idea
[04:34] <kdoggy> i will try it, nickrud.
[04:34] <bob2> DrKayBee: best to just ask your question
[04:34] <bob2> recompiling totem is massive, massive oevrkill
[04:34] <nickrud> kdoggy, thats how I do it, so I can stay out of backports
[04:35] <DrKayBee> I'm playing CS:Czero w/ Cedega. CZERO disc gets automounted but not recognized by czero
[04:35] <DAC1138> gigaclon, but just in case other programs dont work (like audacity or other audio related programs) it probably going to be the killall esd problem
[04:36] <DrKayBee> the disc can be browsed properly...
[04:36] <DrKayBee> restarting dbus doesn't help
[04:36] <DAC1138> DragonFly, does CS work in full screen in cedega?
[04:36] <DAC1138> arrg, DrKayBee read the DragonFly response i wrote
[04:36] <DrKayBee> yes - it does when it works
[04:37] <DAC1138> DrKayBee, i can only get deus ex and other games to play in their "safe mode" in a window
[04:37] <DrKayBee> hmm.. I only have CD
[04:37] <DrKayBee> CS
[04:38] <fuoco> how can i make a rescue floppy with fdisk from windows ?
[04:38] <thespiritoftal> hi
[04:38] <DrKayBee> I find the HAL system unreliable at best. Also, putting the disc in an external drive leads to some copy protection error
[04:38] <thespiritoftal> how can i install java to ubuntu?
[04:39] <Burgundavia> thespiritoftal, wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:40] <kevin> Have a question, how do I set evolution to use gmail?
[04:40] <thespiritoftal> This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates
[04:40] <Davey> will this (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002ER5B6/104-5284955-4071144?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance) work in Ubuntu?
[04:40] <thespiritoftal> the page doesn't exist Burgundavia
[04:40] <nalioth> kevin: gmail has a walkthrough on your preference page on the web
[04:40] <thespiritoftal> oh I typed it wrong sorry
[04:40] <SDFH_Linux> http://bink.nu/Home.bink
[04:40] <nalioth> !java
[04:40] <ubotu> java is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[04:41] <Computer__Guru> when attempting a 'fakeroot debian/rules binary' from the mplayer-586 source tarball, it builds the .deb files WAY too quickly... it's not compiling them, and the resulting packages contain no actual binaryes, just directories.. anybody know why this is?
[04:41] <Computer__Guru> binaries
[04:41] <psychonate> For some reason Firefox keeps asking me if I want to open WMVs in Totem, which is apparently the default application for WMVs. However, always tell it to open these files in mplayer and mark "Do this automatically for files like this from now on."
[04:42] <Sponge_> I'm trying to compile tlip and I get the following error:
[04:42] <Sponge_> tilp_calcs.c: In function `tilp_calc_rom_dump':
[04:42] <Sponge_> tilp_calcs.c:301: error: `ROM_SE' undeclared (first use in this function)
[04:42] <Sponge_> tilp_calcs.c:301: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
[04:42] <Sponge_> tilp_calcs.c:301: error: for each function it appears in.)
[04:42] <Sponge_> is the source damaged?
[04:42] <psychonate> Go figure, when I find another WMV, it asks me if I want to open it in Totem anyway
[04:42] <Sponge_> (sorry for the flooding!)
[04:42] <shad0w> hey guys
[04:42] <MrGardenHoseMan> anyone know the command to check your hd stats?
[04:42] <kevin> nalioth: ty
[04:42] <shad0w> does anyone know any good mail server+webmail that works good on ubuntu?
[04:42] <psychonate> Is there any way I can *REALLY* make mplayer the default app? I don't even know why Totem is the default.
[04:42] <reka> psychonate: try this: right click on a wmv file in nautilus, properties > open with.
[04:42] <Sponge_> ./configure works fine, but "make" doesn't.
[04:42] <psychonate> I thought /etc/mailcap defined these things
[04:43] <psychonate> reka, I don't use nautilus, and I want to open the file straight from the browser.
[04:43] <Sponge_> psychonate: Right click and change the file properties...
[04:43] <MidNightRaVeN> ! mount
[04:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:43] <abarbaccia> I have a dlink wireless card and lspci brings up 2 listings: 1) Atheros comm unknown device 2)realtek semi RTL-8139
[04:43] <psychonate> Sponge_, anyway to do this from a terminal?
[04:43] <abarbaccia> which one is the chipset on the card and should i google to get working
[04:44] <Sponge_> psychonate, that's a very good question. I'm not that skilled... T-T sorry...
[04:44] <MidNightRaVeN> i have a question =/ anyone know how to unmount a drive?
[04:44] <Computer__Guru> when attempting a 'fakeroot debian/rules binary' from the mplayer-586 source tarball, it builds the .deb files WAY too quickly... it's not compiling them, and the resulting packages contain no actual binaries, just directories.. anybody know why this is?
[04:44] <MidNightRaVeN> just edit the fstab i'm guessing?
[04:44] <Sponge_> MidNightRaven: unmount /dev/"whatever"
[04:44] <MidNightRaVeN> Sponge_: kk, thx
[04:44] <Sponge_> MidNightRaven: I mean... "umount"
[04:44] <tim__> anyone running hula mail server that can give some tips to a newbie?
[04:45] <MidNightRaVeN> Sponge_: any specific command so I can get a list of the devs?
[04:45] <Sponge_> I need to link my voyage 200 to my ubuntu box!!! --- And I can't do that!! --- T-T the source doesn't like me!
[04:45] <Sponge_> MidNightRaveN: You mean, To get the whole list of mounts?
[04:45] <MidNightRaVeN> Sponge_: yea
[04:45] <shad0w> does anyone know any good mail server+webmail that works good on ubuntu? :OOOOOOOOOOO
[04:45] <reka> psychonate: looked in edit > prefs > downloads > filteypes section yet?
[04:46] <wm_eddie> shad0w: hula?
[04:46] <Sponge_> MidNightRaven: Just type "mount" at the command prompt.
[04:46] <psychonate> reka, yes I have
[04:46] <MidNightRaVeN> Sponge_: kk =)
[04:46] <shad0w> hula :o
[04:46] <wing`> is there anyone who can help me sharing my internet connection with another pc (windows xp) ?
[04:46] <Sponge_> tlip doesn't like me T-T
[04:46] <Madpilot> tim__: there's a hula channel here at freenode
[04:46] <pawan> hello
[04:46] <pawan> anyone into translation
[04:47] <ethics> shad0w,  apache and exim?
[04:47] <Computer__Guru> when attempting a 'fakeroot debian/rules binary' from the mplayer-586 source tarball, it builds the .deb files WAY too quickly... it's not compiling them, and the resulting packages contain no actual binaries, just directories.. anybody know why this is?
[04:47] <Sponge_> wing: Have a look to the "iptables" manual.
[04:47] <Madpilot> bbl, everyone
[04:47] <wing`> the problem is that my linux eth0 is using DHCP
[04:47] <Wckdkl0wn> is there a repository for glib?
[04:47] <tim__> Madpilot, yea. i'd been there, and no one gave me a response until about a minute ago. thanks anyway
[04:47] <wm_eddie> sharing an internet connection is too damn hard in Ubuntu.
[04:47] <wing`> i already tried lots of iptables scripts
[04:47] <wing`> they dont work
[04:48] <Madpilot> tim__: noticed that with a LOT of the channels. 50+ ppl there, and nobody posting a bleeding thing...
[04:48] <Sponge_> wing: So, where is the problem?... hell, I had I tutorial about winxp and linux inet sharing...
[04:48] <Sponge_> wing: specially for these cases...
[04:48] <psychonate> great, I ran nautilus in xfce4, and now my root window is messed
[04:48] <reka> Madpilot: IRC = idle record contest
[04:48] <nalioth> Computer__Guru: have you tried just compiling mplayer from source directly?
[04:48] <wing`> i set all to auto in winxp and it doesnt works
[04:48] <wing`> thats the problem
[04:48] <wing`> and im noob
[04:48] <wing`> another problem
[04:49] <Wckdkl0wn> is there a repository for glib2.0?
[04:49] <psychonate> I can't click on it :(
[04:49] <psychonate> which is rather essential in xfce
[04:49] <Computer__Guru> nalioth: it's the mplayer-586 source package in universe/multiverse.. isnt it better to build a .deb file whenever possible as opposed to compiling and installing yourself?
[04:49] <nickrud> psychonate, run gconf-editor and unset /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop
[04:49] <abarbaccia> i have my wireless card detected by ubuntu now, but no packets sent or received
[04:49] <abarbaccia> any ideas?
[04:49] <ethics> Wckdkl0wn, yeah its the normal ones..itll be part of glibSOMETHING
[04:50] <wing`> Sponge_, i should use eth0 or ppp0
[04:50] <wing`> ?
[04:50] <wing`> its ADSL but my modem is router
[04:50] <nalioth> Computer__Guru: try this: "sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer<whatever>" and then "sudo apt-get source -b mplayer<whatever>"
[04:50] <Wckdkl0wn> glibc-doc is all it has
[04:50] <ethics> psychonate, why run nautilus in xfce?
[04:50] <funkyHat> wing`, an ethernet router?
[04:50] <reka> psychonate: running nautilus with the --no-desktop option is another alternative iirc
[04:50] <Computer__Guru> well i already built the deps, so ill try the -b
[04:50] <psychonate> ethics, no one knew how to change the default run action for something without using nautilus
[04:50] <wing`> funkyHat, yes
[04:50] <psychonate> or if they did, they didn't tell me
[04:50] <funkyHat> wing`, you should use eth0
[04:50] <ethics> psychonate, ahh i c  kk
[04:51] <wing`> thanks
[04:51] <nalioth> Computer__Guru: i always use this method. i know nothing about debian/rules or whatever
[04:51] <bimberi> Wckdkl0wn: libglib2.0-0 ?
[04:51] <Sponge_> wing': If you have and adsl connection, you gotta use ppp0... and for the lan, eth0.
[04:51] <psychonate> nickrud, I changed the option, but it's still messed. Do I need to run nautilus again?
[04:51] <Computer__Guru> hey there we go :D
[04:51] <funkyHat> Sponge_, he's connected to the modem through the lan
[04:51] <Wckdkl0wn> bimberi, yea thats what i am looking for but all that is in synaptic is glibc-doc
[04:52] <Sponge_> funkyHat: hell, let's see... you're the PPPoE guy? aren't you? :P
[04:52] <Computer__Guru> bbiaf, gotta go to store
[04:52] <psychonate> I would just kill it, but I don't know what to kill.
[04:52] <Computer__Guru> ty nalioth
[04:52] <nalioth> Computer__Guru: you'll have to dpkg -i mplayer<whatever>.deb when the process ends
[04:52] <bimberi> !info libglib2.0-0
[04:52] <psychonate> 'ps -e' doesn't show nautilus as running
[04:52] <ubotu> libglib2.0-0: (The GLib library of C routines), section libs, is optional. Version: 2.6.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 428 kB, Installed size: 944 kB
[04:52] <funkyHat> Sponge_, eh?
[04:53] <ethics> Wckdkl0wn, goto the wiki and grab the adding repositories thread or config synaptic to do more than it alread is
[04:53] <nickrud> psychonate, there's a daemon you want to have running gnome-settings-daemon, and also, gconfd. Check for them
[04:53] <Sponge_> funkyHat: Just joking :P
[04:53] <abarbaccia> im gonna bring this card back i think - this sucks so much
[04:53] <funkyHat> Sponge_, ok :). i got that pretty quick considering it's 4am
[04:53] <nickrud> psychonate, ah, well, if nautilus left crap in it's wake, that's another thing ;)
[04:54] <psychonate> argh
[04:54] <psychonate> I hate GNOME, nautilus, and nothing related
[04:54] <Sponge_> funkyHat: In my lands, It's 22:54... :P
[04:54] <psychonate> s/nothing/anything
[04:54] <funkyHat> heh, well we have the real time here :P
[04:54] <reka> psychonate: sorry ... did'nt know you were using xfce
[04:54] <psychonate> If I restart X, I'll have to reopen my torrents
[04:54] <psychonate> not to mention my other apps
[04:55] <Sponge_> wing': Sorry, but I really don't know how to help you. I need my magic white paper -- which obviously, I forgot where I placed it!
[04:55] <nalioth> psychonate: "gnu screen" + bittorrentdownloadcurses.py
[04:55] <psychonate> Only one problem with that:
[04:55] <Sponge_> I'm leaving... I'm hungry... but I'll be back...
[04:55] <Sponge_> :P
[04:55] <psychonate> I want to be able to change my UL rates on the fly
[04:55] <psychonate> afaik you can't do that with bittorrentdownloadcurses.py
[04:55] <nalioth> psychonate: iptables
[04:56] <psychonate> I've never used iptables
[04:56] <psychonate> I don't understand why I can't just kill something to fix my damn root window :(
[04:56] <lwr> hi
[04:57] <lwr> i am a fresh man here
[04:57] <psychonate> I guess I have to restart X
[04:57] <psychonate> a;lskjfd;asjkljfdajslkjdfka;jsjfdlkjas
[04:57] <kevin> yahoooooooooo I got gmail to come to my evolution lol
[04:57] <nickrud> hi, lwr have an particular questions about ubuntu?
[04:57] <lwr> yeah
[04:58] <lwr> i am a new user of ubuntu
[04:58] <pbiegaj> hey guys more ndiswrapper questions
[04:58] <pbiegaj> I have the card connected to my access point
[04:58] <Trace> Hello, does anybody know how to use freenx?
[04:58] <pbiegaj> hey guys
[04:59] <pbiegaj> so my wireless card using ndiswrapper
[04:59] <pbiegaj> connects to my access point
[04:59] <pbiegaj> but dhcp doesn't seem to work for my card
[04:59] <pbiegaj> and setting a static ip doesn't seem to work either
[04:59] <pbiegaj> :-(
[04:59] <pbiegaj> so close yet so far
[04:59] <pbiegaj> if anyone can help me out I'd be really greatful
[04:59] <lwr> the ubuntu running in my computer is a little slow. why is that? is my hardware's problem?
[04:59] <fortysixand2> what happens when you try to set a static IP
[04:59] <pbiegaj> I can't ping anything
[04:59] <cw2> lwr: what's your hardware
[04:59] <pbiegaj> even the gateway
[04:59] <nalioth> lwr what is your hardware?
[04:59] <lwr> amd duron 800  128M RAM
[05:00] <pbiegaj> it says network unreachable
[05:00] <fortysixand2> what does "route" tell you pbiegaj?
[05:00] <lwr> sdr ram
[05:00] <cw2> that's kinda slow, especialy the 129 meg
[05:00] <r0bby> you know what i funnt
[05:00] <r0bby> funny*
[05:00] <WebMaven> Hmm. Firefox from the backpots works, but it seems more resource-hungry, and sluggish.
[05:00] <Trace> pbiegaj, you may try to run mii-tool and have a look
[05:00] <pbiegaj> fortysixand2, the route table is identical to my route table with my wired connection
[05:00] <r0bby> i had some broken packages w/ apt
[05:00] <cw2> lwr: add another 128 meg to ti and it will be noticable faster
[05:00] <r0bby> and all of a sudden
[05:00] <psychonate> WTF :(
[05:00] <r0bby> they're gone
[05:00] <psychonate> It still wants to use Totem
[05:00] <pbiegaj> Trace, what is mii-tool?
[05:00] <r0bby> then again it's breezy so
[05:00] <r0bby> *shrug*
[05:00] <Trace> it tests whether your netcard is ok. "sudo mii-tool"
[05:01] <zenlunatic> why on earth would someone use breezy?
[05:01] <psychonate> this is really starting to annoy me
[05:01] <r0bby> curiosity
[05:01] <zenlunatic> psychonate: so
[05:01] <r0bby> it's actually stable
[05:01] <zenlunatic> psychonate: your point?
[05:01] <WebMaven> Has anyone else noticed poorer performance in the Firefox from backports?
[05:01] <fortysixand2> there are 2 default gateways, pbiegaj?
[05:01] <psychonate> I don't have to have a point.
[05:01] <zenlunatic> psychonate: so you are spewing pointlessness?
[05:02] <psychonate> Yes.
[05:02] <r0bby> I use breezy because i wanted to
[05:02] <r0bby> and i wanted the bleeding edge stuff
[05:02] <zenlunatic> i see very considerate of you to waste other peoples time with your pointlessness
[05:02] <psychonate> Is your complaining any more relevant than my comments?
[05:02] <zenlunatic> hm probably not
[05:02] <psychonate> We'll call it even then.
[05:02] <WebMaven> You know, the shortest distance between to pointlessnesses is a digression.
[05:03] <cw2> WebMaven: but isn't a digression pointless too?
[05:03] <pbiegaj> fortysixand2, yeah there are two entries in the route table
[05:03] <psychonate> I don't understand why FF keeps wanting to open WMVs in Totem.
[05:03] <DAC1138> psychonate, thats exactly what i said and it got a little out of hand
[05:03] <WebMaven> cw2: your point?
[05:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i just descoverd that linux isen't that bad for gaming
[05:04] <DAC1138> psychonate, the "i dont have to have a point"
[05:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i must say that i'm quite impressed
[05:04] <DAC1138> ChurcH_of_FoamY, its better than windows
[05:04] <cw2> WebMaven: digression :P
[05:04] <fortysixand2> i think you can only have 1 default gateway
[05:04] <wing`> whats the best download manager for linux?
[05:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes
[05:04] <psychonate> DAC1138, well, when I did have a point, it didn't seem to do me much good either.
[05:04] <DAC1138> ChurcH_of_FoamY, like deus ex. it crashes after i install it and play it once.
[05:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes it is
[05:04] <WebMaven> cw2: I win!
[05:04] <reka> recommendations for a lightweight DE that will install itself in the Sessions menu? (asking for a relative newbie)
[05:04] <nickrud> psychonate, try downloading a wmv, then using right click properties->open with
[05:04] <DAC1138> ChurcH_of_FoamY, linux, it works every time, and it allows me to run the game at full resolution with no slowdowns
[05:04] <cw2> ChurcH_of_FoamY: depends on what you call "gaming"
[05:04] <wing`> whats the best download manager for linux??
[05:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> counter strike
[05:05] <nickrud> a hack, but it should work
[05:05] <Fuzzy`> anyone use wepcrack/airsnort
[05:05] <cw2> ChurcH_of_FoamY: with ut99 linux was faster than windows on the same hardware
[05:05] <psychonate> nickrud, I have, and I told it to use this app each time. Then, when I select another WMV, it reverts back to the default behavior.
[05:05] <psychonate> I have no idea why.
[05:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea
[05:05] <Trace> Hello, does anybody know how to use freenx?
[05:05] <WebMaven> Once again, has anyone else noticed poorer performance in the Firefox from backports?
[05:05] <cw2> ChurcH_of_FoamY: ut2k it's about the same
[05:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i think that uto4 runs pritty good
[05:05] <psychonate> I always thought /etc/mailcap was in charge of these things.
[05:05] <DAC1138> ut2004 runs better in windows than linux (for me)
[05:05] <WebMaven> excessive memory footprint, sluggish scrolling behaviour, etc.
[05:05] <cw2> ChurcH_of_FoamY: it's all a matter of the gaming company using standards
[05:05] <nalioth> wing`: wait a few minutes tween your same questions, please
[05:05] <admrl_> could anyone help me installing a grub bootsplash if you can pm me
[05:05] <nalioth> wing`: if someone knows, they'll answer
[05:05] <DAC1138> on linux i have to run ut2004 in software render mode
[05:05] <nickrud> psychonate, no longer, gnome has it's own mime type recognition and usage
[05:06] <cw2> DAC1138: nvidia or ati?
[05:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea and porting stuff to linux the lazy bastards >.<
[05:06] <DAC1138> cw2, intel. im on a laptop
[05:06] <psychonate> You're kidding me.
[05:06] <psychonate> GNOME aims to ruin my life.
[05:06] <cw2> ChurcH_of_FoamY: if they use standards it's not that big a deal
[05:06] <psychonate> It's that simple.
[05:06] <cw2> DAC1138: is it accelerated?
[05:06] <psychonate> nickrud, even so, I'm not using GNOME.
[05:06] <DAC1138> cw2, yeah, 100% positive
[05:06] <reka> er, does XFCE add itself to the Sessions menu?
[05:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nope i think that there may be to many "flavors" of linux for them at this time
[05:06] <cw2> DAC1138: btw: my laptop has nvidia... and rocks
[05:06] <psychonate> reka, XFCE4 did for me.
[05:06] <DAC1138> cw2, it crashes on startup, i havent tried figuring out the problem
[05:06] <nickrud> eh, then, it still looks like firefox is looking to the gnome mime associations
[05:07] <nalioth> reka: not sure about xfce, and flux is currently buggered
[05:07] <reka> psychonate: cheers
[05:07] <cw2> DAC1138: well, doens't mean it's excellerate well.  ati drivers suck too
[05:07] <DAC1138> cw2, im not too big of a gamer, which is why i dont really care about graphics
[05:07] <crimsun> nalioth: yes, xfce4 does.
[05:07] <DAC1138> cw2, other than ut2004, the latest game i play is deus ex, way back from 2000
[05:07] <fortran01> ass-kicking xfce rocks!
[05:07] <reka> nalioth: i'm asking for a relative newbie ... so the less config, the better
[05:07] <psychonate> nickrud, I just changed that in nautilus before it messed up my root window :(
[05:07] <WebMaven> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Bah, that's like saying there are too many flavors of vanilla ice-cream.
[05:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> not really
[05:07] <WebMaven> ie, french vanilla, vanilla bean, plain vanilla...
[05:07] <DAC1138> WebMaven, tell me about it. too many vanilla brands/flavors, lol
[05:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> if theres to many of one type of os with diffrent ways of working
[05:07] <Razor-X> DAC1138: i've plyed UT2k3
[05:08] <Razor-X> it's nice, but, I prefer UT meself
[05:08] <Razor-X> s/3/4/
[05:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> that poses a problem with the developers trying to port there stuff
[05:08] <DAC1138> i havent even played ut2004 in a long time, ive thought about selling it
[05:08] <Razor-X> I'm gonna learn Ruby SDL ;)
[05:08] <DAC1138> ill need to reinstall and play it again
[05:08] <psychonate> GNOME is the collective effort of all that is evil in the universe :(
[05:08] <WebMaven> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you need to define 'different ways of working'. Very little is *actually* different.
[05:08] <nickrud> psychonate, I used to use a package, mozplugger, which have better control over mime associations; maybe you can adapt that for xfce & firefox
[05:09] <IIIEars> Razor-X - need a hint no sound in UT99 and after connecting download of maps mods stalls
[05:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> well you think they know that
[05:09] <nickrud> s/have/has/
[05:09] <Burgundavia> psychonate, you have nothing positive to say, please find somewhere else to say it
[05:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hell i still think that gentoo is diffrent from ubuntu and red hat
[05:09] <psychonate> Burgundavia, well, I did just answer a question for someone not 2 minutes ago
[05:09] <knowledge_> Can someone explain chmod and ch...uhh....chown
[05:09] <knowledge_> ?
[05:09] <Razor-X> psychonate: hah, true that ;)
[05:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i even think that kde is something diffrent than gonme
[05:09] <Razor-X> knowledge_: mind if I PM you?
[05:09] <IIIEars> gentoo is the reason bayer sells aspirin
[05:10] <Razor-X> with the info, I mean
[05:10] <regeya_> whoo!
[05:10] <knowledge_> Razor-X, sure
[05:10] <Razor-X> IIIEars: I never needed aspirin
[05:10] <Razor-X> ;)
[05:10] <regeya_> is kde different than gnome?
[05:10] <regeya_> zounds.
[05:10] <Razor-X> just some heavy Motrin
[05:10] <WebMaven> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Well, if Firefox can run on them all, and it is a non-profit application, a game should be able to as well.
[05:10] <knowledge_> regeya, yes
[05:10] <fortran01> Mac is different from Ubuntu
[05:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> WebMaven i agree so why don't they then?
[05:10] <IIIEars> Razor-X - Ubuntu is much nicer. - you are here aren't you?
[05:10] <regeya_> I didn't have headaches with gentoo that were any worse than with a fussy ubuntu problem.  it usually took a bit longer to fix the problem on gentoo, though. ;-)
[05:10] <regeya_> knowledge_, say it ain't so!
[05:11] <regeya_> kde is my favorite window manager!
[05:11] <fortran01> xfce is my favorite window manager!
[05:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i like gnome cause it's simpler
[05:11] <WebMaven> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what they are really saying is; We want to release one binary that we can charge per copy, and not have to ever recompile for a diferent distro.
[05:11] <fortran01> i like xfce because it is simpler
[05:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i'm not shure what a window manager is so i'll pass on that judgement
[05:12] <Razor-X> IIIEars: i'm warping in-and-out
[05:12] <Razor-X> i've never really found a GUI simpler, per-say
[05:12] <psychonate> nickrud, well, I'm going to try this mozplugger quick, but I'm not sure if it works for FF. Either way, thanks for the attempt :)
[05:12] <Razor-X> I tend to visualize things better in writing, actually, so, *shrugs*
[05:12] <IIIEars> Razor-X - will chmoding the ut system folder fix the map/mod download stall?
[05:12] <nickrud> psychonate, :)
[05:13] <Razor-X> IIIEars: no harm in it
[05:13] <Razor-X> chmod 771 away
[05:13] <DAC1138> darn wine crashed while trying to get deus ex working, how convenient
[05:13] <WebMaven> Well, there are ways of doing that, by releasing the framework as OS so that others can recompile for you, and keeping the game-data proprietary. But few companies have been wiling to go that route.
[05:13] <Razor-X> I don't play UT on this box, haven't in a while
[05:13] <regeya_> wheee
[05:13] <IIIEars> Razor-X - cool - i'll give it a try.
[05:13] <IIIEars> There is a FarCry installer out now. - Wo-ot!
[05:14] <Computer__Guru> what's farcry again? it sounds familiar
[05:14] <chillywilly> game
[05:14] <psychonate> FPS
[05:14] <cw2> IIIEars: what download stall?
[05:14] <IIIEars> First Person Sotter with amazing graphics
[05:14] <WebMaven> ChurcH_of_FoamY: there are other ways as well, such as creating a free gaming specific distro that users can dual-boot into.
[05:14] <psychonate> well, I don't see mozplugger in FF anywhere. Oh well
[05:15] <IIIEars> cw2 - UT99 - chmodding the ut system folder just may fix it. - 777 rw by all?
[05:15] <cw2> ut99 hasnt worked at all for me in I started using a 2.6.x kernel
[05:15] <WebMaven> ChurcH_of_FoamY: none of this will happen until users insist on it though, one way or another (such as not buying games that require windows).
[05:16] <WebMaven> ChurcH_of_FoamY: shrug. I can't make myself care much though.
[05:16] <cw2> WebMaven: I'm in, I won't buy a game for myself that won't run on linux
[05:16] <IIIEars> WebMaven - I have to agree. UT2K4 includes one. - certainly give them a hearty thumbs up
[05:17] <cw2> ut2k4 runs 64-bit too
[05:17] <cw2> and it's noticably smoother than the 32-bit one
[05:17] <cw2> quite nice
[05:17] <fuoco> cw2, smoother on a 64bit OS ?
[05:18] <cw2> fuoco: yup
[05:18] <IIIEars> Several games include a boot sector app (StarRom?) before they load. - really wrong to treat all of your customers as potential thieves
[05:18] <fuoco> cw2, which ?
[05:18] <cw2> fuoco: ubuntu of course
[05:18] <WebMaven> OK, I guess no-one is seeing the same Firefox performance problems I am.
[05:18] <fuoco> ah :)
[05:19] <reka> WebMaven: what about that ipv6 fix i saw somewhere?
[05:19] <cw2> fuoco: I don't know if they've released a win64 binary yet
[05:19] <Czar> I've been googling for answers..but cant seem to find any one firm answer. Is it possible (and if so..how hard for a linux noob) to use a linksys WUSB11 v2.4 usb network adapter with the latest version of ubuntu?
[05:19] <IIIEars> FarCry added new content for 64 bit. (faster processor = more physics)
[05:19] <WebMaven> IIIEars: Wrong, and stupid. Anyone old enough to remember copy-protection on floppy-based games?
[05:19] <cw2> WebMaven: me!
[05:19] <regeya_> WebMaven: aye
[05:19] <cw2> WebMaven: too easily defeated
[05:20] <regeya_> WebMaven: I remember attempts at physical copy protection on floppies, when floppies were floppy.
[05:20] <psychonate> WebMaven, what problems are you having?
[05:20] <WebMaven> reka: I don't know. Is that what I'm seeing?
[05:20] <psychonate> FF crashes often for me.
[05:20] <IIIEars> WebMaven - yep - that was a pain. - you could really foul up your system with a poorly designed protection scheme
[05:20] <kevin> where is the source.list? /etx/???
[05:20] <WebMaven> psychonate: excessive memory footprint, sluggish scrolling behaviour, etc.
[05:20] <cw2> ff is fine for me, running the 32bit on on amd64 anyway
[05:20] <goodman> is there any reason an amd64 computer would have less packages available in apt than an x86 (with the same sources.list)?
[05:20] <psychonate> ah, don't know about that
[05:20] <calc> goodman: some things aren't 64bit clean (not much though)
[05:20] <cw2> goodman: yes, there are still things that won't compile for amd64
[05:20] <WebMaven> regeya: No I mean software copy protection.
[05:21] <reka> WebMaven: iirc, type about:config in the url bar
[05:21] <reka> WebMaven: then, set network.dns.disableIPv6 to true
[05:21] <goodman> calc and cw2: but there are a lot of things, like flashplayer-mozilla
[05:21] <goodman> calc and cw2: if either of you have amd64 can you install that?
[05:21] <cw2> goodman: macromedia as not ported flash to 64bit yet
[05:21] <calc> goodman: well binary only crap won't be on 64bit yea
[05:21] <drcode> hi all
[05:21] <cw2> goodman: so you have to the 32-bit chroot game
[05:22] <IIIEars> interesting that the new Unreal Tournament 200X was developed on linux. ;)
[05:22] <kevin> where is the source.list? /etc/???
[05:22] <cw2> kevin: tec/apt/
[05:22] <calc> /etc/apt/
[05:22] <kevin> ty
[05:22] <pbiegaj_> hey guys still having a problem with ndiswrapper and my wireless card
[05:22] <drcode> I am looking for video confrance server for linux , that can work like class room on internet
[05:22] <goodman> cw2: ummm is there a guide to do that/can you explain?
[05:22] <pbiegaj_> where it comes up but I can't get it to talk to my gateway
[05:22] <WebMaven> reka: done.
[05:22] <pbiegaj_> and get outside of my network
[05:22] <Fuzzy`> i am looking for help with installing airsnort, can anyone help me?
[05:23] <reka> WebMaven: any improvement?
[05:23] <cw2> pbiegaj_: try using wifiradar to bring up the connection
[05:23] <WebMaven> we'll see...
[05:23] <pbiegaj_> cw2, k
[05:23] <WebMaven> I'll let you know...
[05:23] <cw2> goodman: um, somewhere on the website
[05:23] <lwr> when i browse some websites with ff, the browser automatic shutdown,what's the matter?
[05:23] <goodman> cw2: found it, thanks
[05:23] <Czar> anyone with information on using linksys wusb11 v2.4 usb network adapter with ubuntu?
[05:23] <nickrud> psychonate, do you want to drop me the link that totem opens on? I'm in the process of bringing ubuntu uptodate, and usually want my video to open in mplayer
[05:24] <cw2> Czar: can't you just try it?
[05:24] <Czar> cw2, i do. no detection.
[05:24] <pbiegaj_> cw2, what exactly do you wnat me to look for?
[05:24] <interp> Does anyone know of a good wireless keyboard/mouse that works with Ubuntu out of the box?
[05:24] <lwr> is ubuntu fit for daily use?
[05:24] <nickrud> psychonate, and, you should see mozplugger in about:plugins
[05:24] <Burgundavia> lwr, yes
[05:24] <Czar> lwr, definately.
[05:24] <nalioth> lwr: yes it is
[05:24] <cw2> Czar: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=1079
[05:25] <nickrud> daily, here
[05:25] <regeya_> it makes me old to realize that 18-year-olds were born ca. 1987.
[05:25] <pbiegaj_> cw2, I don't know what you'd like me to tell you about the wireless network
[05:25] <regeya_> whoops, wrong channel
[05:25] <pbiegaj_> the problem is that I'm in my network
[05:25] <pbiegaj_> and even when I mimic my wired settings, i.e. route table, etc
[05:25] <Czar> cw2, thank you!
[05:25] <drcode> is there any help on stream video in firefox ?
[05:25] <pbiegaj_> I still can't get out of the network out in the internet
[05:26] <cw2> Czar: google owns you
[05:26] <drcode> like wmv,real player,avi and so?
[05:26] <reka> regeya: meant for #geriatrics? ;)
[05:26] <cw2> drcode: install mplayer-mozilla (i think that's the name)
[05:26] <WebMaven> reka: Yes, seems much better.
[05:26] <reka> WebMaven: good to hear.
[05:26] <Czar> cw2, what search string did you use so i can perfect my googling technique.
[05:26] <nickrud> drcode, I generally use mozilla-mplayer (cw2:)
[05:27] <cw2> Czar: wusb11 v2.4 linux
[05:27] <cw2> Czar: "model" "version" "linux"
[05:27] <Czar> cw2, thanks
[05:27] <lwr> but when i listen to music,watch movie,or do some office work, ubuntu appear not so good.there's always some question to finish my job
[05:28] <Antinomy> can anyone help me with an install issue?
[05:28] <cw2> lwr: can you be more specific?
[05:28] <jasmuz> lwr: what is kyou daily use?
[05:28] <cw2> Antinomy: depends on the issue
[05:28] <jasmuz> Antinomy: what is your issue?
[05:28] <Antinomy> ok
[05:28] <Antinomy> here it is
[05:28] <inc595> whats up channel
[05:29] <drcode> any idea:
[05:29] <drcode> Package mplayer-386 is not available, but is referred to by another
[05:29] <Antinomy> I've just partitioned everything - now I'm at set up users and passwords
[05:29] <NoHope> hi all
[05:29] <nickrud> questions of whether ubuntu is ready for prime time, and how to get the perfect player while browsing
[05:29] <cw2> drcode: add the universe and multiverse repositories
[05:29] <crimsun> drcode: do you have multiverse enabled?
[05:29] <goodman> are there any other commonly used things besides flashplayer that aren't 64 bit yet?
[05:29] <Antinomy> I enter the full name, the user name, the password twice, and it returns me to the original screen
[05:29] <NoHope> hey, have someone tried to install PHP 5?
[05:29] <wm_eddie> Damn the kernel takes too long to compile on this thing ><
[05:29] <drcode> what is multiv?
[05:30] <crimsun> !tell drcode about components
[05:30] <cw2> drcode: it's in the repository selection
[05:30] <inc595> anyone have a decent tapebackup cron script?
[05:30] <cw2> goodman: win32 codecs
[05:30] <drcode> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main universe
[05:30] <drcode> thats what I have
[05:30] <jasmuz> Antinomy: are you hitting <enter> when done?
[05:30] <Antinomy> yes
[05:31] <nickrud> !repositories
[05:31] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:31] <Antinomy> jasmuz: yes
[05:31] <cw2> drcode: it's not in security, its in archive
[05:31] <jasmuz> odd
[05:31] <goodman> cw2: ech that's annoying
[05:31] <Antinomy> jasmuz: it's a dual boot
[05:31] <nickrud> drcode, that's all yu have in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:31] <lwr> do i need to install drivers after ubuntu's installtion's over?
[05:31] <jasmuz> Antinomy: after you set up the user, the install should continue working
[05:31] <zerboxx> Why is it that sound in linux is so confusing?
[05:31] <cw2> goodman: 32-bit chroot fixes that, and a 64-bit fix is on the way
[05:32] <cw2> goodman: 64-bit is for the "willing to hack to get the best" crowd
[05:32] <drcode> I change it deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main universe
[05:32] <Antinomy> jasmuz: yes....anyone have any ideas?
[05:32] <cw2> goodman: it's real close to mainstream though
[05:32] <inc595> anyone have a good script to run in cron for tape backup?
[05:32] <cw2> drcode: use synaptic and point-click-drool
[05:32] <nickrud> drcode, could you post your /etc/apt/sources.list file on  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl |
[05:33] <kritty> How in the heck do you get the sound to stick.  My card is an Audigy2 and works great but I have to use alsamixer every time I boot.  I've tried the forums and the how to's but it won't take. My husband is not here and I am new to linux.  Please help if you can.
[05:33] <lwr> do i need to install drivers after ubuntu's installtion's over?
[05:33] <cw2> drcode: you are on the road to fucking up your sources list, it's not something to just toss keywords around in
[05:33] <nickrud> drcode, ditto cw2
[05:33] <kritty> ditto
[05:34] <cw2> lwr: drivers for what
[05:34] <drcode> I did
[05:34] <drcode> nick
[05:34] <lwr> like mainboard, audio
[05:34] <cw2> lwr: usualy not
[05:34] <nickrud> drcode, give us the link here, so we can take a look
[05:35] <crimsun> kritty: paste amixer output to pastebin
[05:35] <cw2> lwr: there's extra config for accelerate nvidia and ati cards but that's about it
[05:35] <Antinomy> Why can't I enter a user name and password?
[05:35] <cw2> lwr: unless you've got some realy obscure hardware
[05:35] <drcode> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/711
[05:35] <lwr> CW2 you are so good, are you a linux expert?
[05:36] <cw2> drcode: use synaptic to edit the repositories, it's supoer easy
[05:36] <kritty> http://pastebin.com/310441
[05:36] <drcode> k
[05:36] <nickrud> gack, first thing, comment out the debian repository, and do sudo apt-get update
[05:36] <cw2> lwr: I've been using linux on the desktop for almost 5 years... and I'm still learning
[05:36] <jasoncohen> lol, i really wonder about backports sometimes
[05:37] <kritty> and thanks
[05:37] <nalioth> jasoncohen: thats why we advise "not for regular use"
[05:37] <drcode> k
[05:37] <jasoncohen> they added firefox 1.0.6 but they screwed up the packages.gz file so it doesn't list firefox 1.0.6 but it does list other 1.0.6 packages like firefox-gnome-support
[05:37] <jasoncohen> so basically, the debs are sitting in staging but apt-get thinks they're not there...idiots
[05:37] <kritty> this is waht I have right now before touching anything
[05:37] <nalioth> jasoncohen: yes, we are at the end of the chain re ff
[05:38] <nickrud> drcode, actually save that file as /etc/apt/sources.mine , and use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 instead
[05:38] <jasoncohen> nalioth, i just downloaded 1.0.6 and installed it myself. it works great and it took 15 seconds to install
[05:38] <jasoncohen> backports seem to screw up every package with the wrong dependencies
[05:38] <jasoncohen> and when they fix it they break something else
[05:38] <ghpolo> someone experiencied with usb mass storage can help me please ?
[05:38] <nickrud> drcode, it's a tried and tested source.list file, known to cause the least problems :)
[05:39] <ethics> ghpolo, shoot
[05:39] <IIIEars> !usb
[05:39] <ubotu> IIIEars: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:39] <cw2> ghpolo: plug it in, run dmesg to see what sd? it gets, then mount it
[05:39] <ghpolo> well
[05:39] <jasoncohen> at this point i think mozilla builds are the best way to go for firefox
[05:39] <ghpolo> not this problem ;p
[05:39] <ghpolo> i got a sata hd and a corsair pen drive
[05:39] <cw2> heh
[05:39] <lwr> cws2is it disturbing you that a lot of windows files cannot compatilt with linux?
[05:39] <lwr> is it disturbing you that a lot of windows files cannot compatilt with linux?
[05:39] <ghpolo> i did a bootstrap for pen drive
[05:39] <cw2> ghpolo: pen should be sdb
[05:39] <ghpolo> then i installed grub and all
[05:40] <ghpolo> it boots but there is a problem
[05:40] <cw2> ah, i'm not going there :)
[05:40] <bahblahblahbah> could someone help me?
[05:40] <nickrud> drcode, if you need help replacing it, msg me
[05:40] <ghpolo> cw2: yes, that is the problem
[05:40] <ghpolo> i boot it
[05:40] <bahblahblahbah> help plz?
[05:40] <ghpolo> it is initially hd0,0
[05:40] <La_PaRCa> hey guys
[05:40] <ghpolo> then when it loads kernel, it isnt anymore
[05:40] <ghpolo> cause it detected my sata hd then
[05:40] <cw2> ghpolo: so, edit the config so it says sda
[05:40] <ghpolo> yes, then it loads my sata hd partition
[05:40] <bahblahblahbah> help? plz................
[05:40] <ghpolo> if i let sdb, it doesnt load my pen drive
[05:41] <ethics> ghpolo, hmm i think i get it...
[05:41] <kritty> crimsun http://pastebin.com/310441
[05:41] <nickrud> bahblahblahbah, did you ask a question?
[05:41] <ghpolo> pretty anoying
[05:41] <ghpolo> wasted a lot of time today trying to get over it
[05:41] <ghpolo> tried syslinux, fat partition, etc
[05:41] <cw2> ghpolo: interesting problem, tried using grub to remap the bios addresses of the disks?
[05:41] <lwr> is it disturbing you that a lot of windows files cannot operate  in linux?
[05:41] <nickrud> lwr, not really
[05:41] <crimsun> kritty: there doesn't seem to be anything at that paste
[05:41] <bahblahblahbah> it seems that i messed up my windows mbr or whatever
[05:41] <ghpolo> hmm cw2, i think i didnt understand the solution
[05:41] <cw2> ghpolo: I think it's the "map" command, been a while since I did it
[05:41] <bahblahblahbah> and now i can't do anything on ubuntu
[05:41] <NoHope> lwr, no. we have a lot of better formats.
[05:41] <bahblahblahbah> i just installed it today
[05:41] <ghpolo> cw2: yes, i used to do it to load windows partition
[05:42] <IIIEars> krityy -pastebin is empty?
[05:42] <ghpolo> cw2: but seems a bit different here
[05:42] <lwr> but that's the biggest problem in front of me
[05:42] <ghpolo> cw2: it boots the pen drive, then it is hd0,0
[05:42] <regeya_> weeeeeeeee
[05:42] <ghpolo> cw2: how can i tell now it is hd1,0 ?
[05:42] <kritty> http://pastebin.com/318258 I just tried it and it works
[05:42] <ghpolo> cw2: and then make it able to access my pen drive correctly passed by the root parameter
[05:43] <NoHope> people, [apt-get install apache]  don't installs it... what can I do?
[05:43] <IIIEars> ah there it is
[05:43] <cw2> ghpolo: I'd still try map, can't make it worse
[05:43] <nickrud> bahblahblahbah, you mean, you installed ubuntu, then after that, reinstalled windows?
[05:43] <ghpolo> cw2: of course it couldnt, heh
[05:43] <crimsun> kritty: you passed me the wrong url
[05:43] <ghpolo> cw2: but you would map what to what ?
[05:43] <kritty> sorry
[05:43] <cw2> ghpolo: 80 to 81, 81 to 80
[05:43] <kritty> http://pastebin.com/310441
[05:43] <ghpolo> cw2: exactly like windows ?
[05:43] <bahblahblahbah> nickrud: when i resized my two existing partitions to make a third one windows got messed up
[05:43] <ghpolo> cw2: hmmm
[05:43] <cw2> ghpolo: first detected drive always gets 80, no matter what it is
[05:43] <bahblahblahbah> third partition for Ubuntu
[05:44] <ghpolo> cw2: right
[05:44] <ghpolo> cw2: well, im gonna try
[05:44] <ghpolo> cw2: since i ran out of ideas.. and i didnt think about this
[05:44] <bahblahblahbah> and now I can't seem to do anything on Linux because i'm a noob
[05:44] <nickrud> bahblahblahbah, ah, I was swinging at low fruit :)
[05:44] <bahblahblahbah> ...what's that mean?
[05:44] <bahblahblahbah> i can't use sudo
[05:44] <crimsun> kritty: what exactly is the problem?
[05:44] <regeya_> bahblahblahbah, I don't know what to tell you for now, but in the future, write down pertinent info about the partition table, and make full backups before attempting anything.
[05:44] <cw2> bahblahblahbah: wait, you can boot?
[05:44] <regeya_> whee.
[05:45] <kritty> crimsun still?
[05:45] <crimsun> kritty: can't hear any sound?
[05:45] <nickrud> bahblahblahbah, you can boot ubuntu, but not use sudo?
[05:45] <bahblahblahbah> something about cannot lookup hostbyname.
[05:45] <regeya_> huh.
[05:45] <bahblahblahbah> and I cannot edit gdm.conf
[05:45] <bahblahblahbah> because "i'm not owner"
[05:45] <cw2> bahblahblahbah: you didn't set a hostname during install?
[05:45] <bahblahblahbah> yes it was simply "PC"
[05:45] <kritty> I can get the sound to work but every reboot I have to go into alsamixer and reset the controls
[05:45] <cw2> or you setup to dhcp and aren't getting an address?
[05:45] <SDFH_Linux> does a usb ethernet card work on ubuntu
[05:45] <bahblahblahbah> I'm not getting an address
[05:46] <crimsun> kritty: by unmuting the analog/digital output jack?
[05:46] <bahblahblahbah> I don't have networking
[05:46] <cw2> SDFH_Linux: if the card is supported, yes
[05:46] <bahblahblahbah> only dial-up
[05:46] <SDFH_Linux> D-Link DWL-G132  ?
[05:46] <regeya_> that shouldn't be a problem bahblahblahbah
[05:46] <nickrud> ah, networking, I get to bow out
[05:46] <regeya_> and bahblahblahbah could you nickname be any more annoying! *wink*
[05:46] <crimsun> SDFH_Linux: usb ethernet works fine
[05:46] <kritty> yes
[05:46] <bahblahblahbah> ...wait...it says something at login about not being able to find an internet address
[05:46] <bahblahblahbah> and that ubuntu might not function properly
[05:46] <bahblahblahbah> ...
[05:46] <SDFH_Linux> crimsun where do i check if that dlink works
[05:46] <cw2> bahblahblahbah: run /usr/sbin/ifconig, does it show a "lo" device?
[05:46] <crimsun> kritty: what if you force save it?
[05:47] <bahblahblahbah> how?
[05:47] <bahblahblahbah> ...-.-
[05:47] <SDFH_Linux> how i setup a usb ethernet?
[05:47] <bahblahblahbah> i feel so stupid...
[05:47] <crimsun> kritty: unmute it, then sudo alsactl store
[05:47] <regeya_> mmmmm loopback
[05:47] <kritty> k 1 sec
[05:47] <cw2> oh wait, it's 600 in this
[05:47] <regeya_> dammit when I come home to my ubuntu box I miss quicksilver. :-P
[05:47] <cw2> SDFH_Linux: plug it in and check dmesg for the device it gets
[05:47] <nickrud> bahblahblahbah, I'd look at /etc/hosts, it should have a line similar to 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost hector , where hector is your machine name
[05:48] <SDFH_Linux> then?
[05:48] <nickrud> bahblahblahbah, PC (?)
[05:48] <cw2> SDFH_Linux: then it's just a network device, set it up
[05:48] <IIIEars> crimsun - lin# 97-98 in kritty's config file?
[05:48] <SDFH_Linux> well it be wlan0?
[05:48] <SDFH_Linux> will*
[05:48] <cw2> SDFH_Linux: if it's wireless it might be
[05:49] <SDFH_Linux> so thats it?
[05:49] <SDFH_Linux> plug it in dmesg and set it up
[05:49] <cw2> if it's supported, yeah, that's it
[05:49] <NoHope> #j /apache
[05:49] <cw2> NoHope: close
[05:49] <bahblahblahbah> nickrud PC is my machine name
[05:49] <kritty> IIIEars that is for surround
[05:49] <SDFH_Linux> cw2 where is a list to see if that particular dlink is?
[05:49] <cw2> SDFH_Linux: google
[05:49] <bahblahblahbah> i'm not very imaginative...can you tell? :X
[05:49] <NoHope> bahblahblahbah, cw2 , I just made a mistake.
[05:50] <kritty> brb ... rebooting to see if that worked
[05:50] <cw2> NoHope: i know :)
[05:50] <IIIEars> kritty - ah thanks - just hoping to learn something.
[05:50] <kritty> IIIEars np
[05:50] <nickrud> bahblahblahbah, I use names from the illiad, cuz I have no imagination either :)
[05:51] <bahblahblahbah> i have no /etc/hosts
[05:51] <cw2> i use a description of what it is, mu file server is called... ready for this? ... filesrv
[05:51] <cw2> bahblahblahbah: that's a problem
[05:51] <regeya_> my machine is named 'leto'
[05:51] <bahblahblahbah> how do i fix cw2?
[05:51] <bahblahblahbah> :X
[05:51] <nickrud> bahblahblahbah, then you have troubles
[05:51] <bahblahblahbah> what to do?!
[05:51] <regeya_> I was using lovecraftian names but cuthulhu is a bit awkward
[05:51] <cw2> bahblahblahbah: boot off the cd in rescue mode (ubunutu has rescue right?)
[05:52] <SDFH_Linux> cw2 where is a list to see if that particular dlink is supported?
[05:52] <bahblahblahbah> err dunno
[05:52] <nickrud> regeya, finding short ones in the iliad can be trying :)
[05:52] <Computer__Guru> yay my mplayer is now codec-1337
[05:52] <cw2> SDFH_Linux: google "modle number" "linux"
[05:52] <bahblahblahbah> :X:X:X tell me what to do!
[05:52] <bahblahblahbah> -.-
[05:52] <bahblahblahbah> *sigh* this is frustrating
[05:52] <regeya_> www
[05:52] <cw2> bahblahblahbah: boot off the cd and the boot prompt type "rescue"
[05:53] <bahblahblahbah> and i'm running back and forth two rooms between two computers...-.-
[05:53] <bahblahblahbah> cw2: thx
[05:53] <cw2> bahblahblahbah: i don't know that it has that option
[05:53] <cw2> bahblahblahbah: but once you get into the installer theres and option to get a console, mount your disk and fix the file
[05:54] <bahblahblahbah> is there an Windows theme on ubuntu?
[05:54] <kritty> crimsun it didn't work.... alsamixer was at defaults and the gnome volume controls was allthe way down
[05:54] <Antinomy> all
[05:55] <wm_eddie> bahblahblahbah: Many.
[05:55] <wm_eddie> bahblahblahbah: checkout art.gnome.org
[05:55] <knowledge_> where can I read about making a .deb from a tar.gz?
[05:55] <Antinomy> I am installing a dual boot, and I have a screen I'm not sure how to answer. it is "kernel to install:" and the choices are linux-386, linux-image-386, and linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[05:56] <nickrud> bahblahblahbah, you can use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/713 as a replacement for /etc/hosts
[05:56] <nickrud> bahblahblahbah, replace hector with whatever     uname -n     returns in a terminal
[05:56] <kritty> it is like the sound works when I manualy enable it but not if I reboot.  When I reboot It goes back to defaultd
[05:57] <nickrud> bahblahblahbah, that will probably fix some of the problems
[05:57] <Computer__Guru> mplayer -version:
[05:57] <Computer__Guru> MPlayer 1.0pre6-3.3.5 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team
[05:57] <Computer__Guru> CPU: Intel Pentium 4/Xeon Willamette (Family: 8, Stepping: 2)
[05:57] <Computer__Guru> Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes
[05:57] <Computer__Guru> MMX2 supported but disabled
[05:57] <Computer__Guru> SSE2 supported but disabled
[05:57] <bahblahblahbah> i think i'll just reinstall
[05:57] <Computer__Guru> CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0
[05:57] <crimsun> kritty: default Hoary?
[05:57] <Computer__Guru> Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX SSE
[05:57] <Computer__Guru> Unknown option on the command line: version
[05:57] <Computer__Guru> err
[05:57] <kritty> yes..
[05:57] <Computer__Guru> shorry
[05:57] <bahblahblahbah> nickrud: on my first boot after install it took like 1hr 30 mins to load
[05:57] <crimsun> kritty: you may need to upgrade alsa versions
[05:57] <bahblahblahbah> ...is that normal?
[05:57] <Antinomy> I am installing a dual boot, and I have a screen I'm not sure how to answer. it is "kernel to install:" and the choices are linux-386, linux-image-386, and linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[05:57] <crimsun> !tell kritty about alsa-source
[05:57] <gigaclon> bahblahblahbah, no
[05:57] <kritty> K...... where should I go
[05:57] <nickrud> bahblahblahbah, no, and, I'm not good with installs
[05:57] <crimsun> just told you.
[05:57] <bahblahblahbah> ...-.-
[05:58] <kritty> that crimsun
[05:58] <kritty> tahnks
[05:58] <kritty> thanks
[05:58] <bahblahblahbah> it was selecting deselected objects or something.....
[05:58] <bimberi> bahblahblahbah: if it was selecting and unpacking packages - yes
[05:58] <bahblahblahbah> phew =)
[05:58] <fuoco> what filesystem is best to use with ubuntu ?
[05:58] <gigaclon> ext3
[05:58] <bahblahblahbah> ...darn
[05:59] <Antinomy> I am installing a dual boot, and I have a screen I'm not sure how to answer. it is "kernel to install:" and the choices are linux-386, linux-image-386, and linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[05:59] <fuoco> gigaclon, not reiserfs ?
[05:59] <bahblahblahbah> lol i did linux-imag-2.6.10-5-386
[05:59] <bahblahblahbah> i did reiserfs
[05:59] <bahblahblahbah> but i don't know anything so...
[05:59] <Antinomy> does it matter?
[05:59] <bahblahblahbah> well some of more secure and faster...i think
[05:59] <IIIEars> Antinomy - I am very new at this. - guessing we need a little info on your hardware. processor
[05:59] <nickrud> Antinomy, get linux-386
[06:00] <Computer__Guru> linux-image-2.6.10-686
[06:00] <Computer__Guru> err
[06:00] <Computer__Guru> linux-image-2.6.10-5-686
[06:00] <bahblahblahbah> he doesn't have that
[06:00] <bahblahblahbah> it's 386
[06:00] <Antinomy> nickrud: I'm in the middle of an install
[06:00] <Computer__Guru> unless youre actually on a 386 system
[06:00] <bahblahblahbah> he has 386 not 686
[06:00] <Computer__Guru> cat /proc/version:
[06:00] <Computer__Guru> Linux version 2.6.10-5-686 (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #1 Fri Jun 24 17:33:34 UTC 2005
[06:00] <nickrud> Antinomy, then, after the install is finished, you can fine tune which kernel you get
[06:00] <Computer__Guru> it can be 686
[06:00] <Computer__Guru> :>
[06:00] <bahblahblahbah> :X
[06:00] <nickrud> but the choices were ........
[06:00] <Antinomy> nickrud: in the meantime, pick?
[06:00] <bahblahblahbah> is there an alternative to API's in linux?
[06:01] <bahblahblahbah> like something like windows api's?
[06:01] <wm_eddie> APIs?
[06:01] <kritty> crimsun do I worry about config with the ISA pnp support? No right
[06:01] <nickrud> Antinomy, the most generic
[06:01] <IIIEars> Antinomy -anything 386 would work
[06:01] <bahblahblahbah> API's are Windows functions for programming...
[06:01] <Antinomy> ok, thanks linux-386 it is
[06:01] <IIIEars> Ubuntu is awesome - precompiled kernels are handy
[06:01] <regeya_> hoboy.
[06:01] <wm_eddie> bahblahblahbah: No API is a generic term.
[06:02] <Antinomy> nickrud: So I can upgrade the kernel later?
[06:02] <nickrud> Antinomy, yes, to your hearts content :)
[06:02] <IIIEars> Antimony - yes
[06:02] <Antinomy> thks
[06:02] <vader> hey there people...how do I configure the the battery display to actually show what's left on my battery?
[06:02] <bahblahblahbah> oh ok wm_eddie
[06:02] <IIIEars> take a look at 686 images for recent hardware
[06:02] <Antinomy> who is being helped in a particularyl charitable way, regeya?
[06:02] <bahblahblahbah> I'm reinstalling and it says Unable to load some modules...
[06:02] <bahblahblahbah> =X
[06:03] <Antinomy> now the install has froze.
[06:03] <bahblahblahbah> ...
[06:03] <wm_eddie> bahblahblahbah: If you want to learn how to make a program on linux check out the PyGTK tutorials
[06:03] <bahblahblahbah> k
[06:04] <bahblahblahbah> i already program on windows.... :)
[06:04] <IIIEars> quick trip to 7-11 - refueling needed - lol
[06:04] <bimberi> vader: Are you using the panel applet?
[06:04] <bahblahblahbah> hdparm thing...what should i use?
[06:04] <bahblahblahbah> or should i leave it blank?
[06:04] <Antinomy> Ok, does anyone have any clue why this install keeps throwing me back to "Enter a full name for the new user:"?
[06:04] <nickrud> Antinomy, well, I can promise that choosing linux-386 was not the cause
[06:04] <vader> the gnome desktop, default install
[06:05] <bahblahblahbah> nickrud what is hdparm?
[06:05] <vader> bimberi: if that is what you meant
[06:05] <IIIEars-away> blahblah, - It is the drive interface config app
[06:06] <bimberi> vader: I was able to add a battery applet to the gnome-panel and configure it to display a % left
[06:06] <Antinomy> Ok, does anyone have any clue why this install keeps throwing me back to "Enter a full name for the new user:"?
[06:06] <bahblahblahbah> what should i put in it? it says it can greatly speed up reading packages
[06:06] <bahblahblahbah> sorry Aninomy...no idea -.-;;;
[06:06] <bahblahblahbah> Antinomy*
[06:06] <vader> okay I cannot for some reason, but I am very week when it comes to anything like this
[06:06] <Antinomy> ok
[06:06] <Antinomy> thanks for answering, at least
[06:07] <bahblahblahbah> anyone know what i should put in hdparm?
[06:07] <bahblahblahbah> to speed up reading of packages?
[06:07] <IIIEars-away> blahblah some config switches HDPARM 	http://www.linuxnetmag.com/en/issue7/m7hdparm1.html
[06:07] <bahblahblahbah> thx :) i thought you were going to 7-11
[06:07] <bahblahblahbah> ?
[06:07] <vader> tha applet is there but reads 0% when unplugged but the laptop is running
[06:07] <SDFH_Linux> do usb wirless ethernet cards use ndiswrapper?
[06:08] <IIIEars-away> lol - shamefully 'net addicted. - rakeish grin
[06:08] <bahblahblahbah> lol - so am i
[06:08] <vader> IIIEars: so am I lol
[06:09] <nickrud> bahblahblahbah, hdparm is not much needed for anything but setting up the cdrom, normally
[06:09] <bimberi> vader: Right-click on a panel, select "Add to Panel...", "Battery Charge Montor"
[06:09] <bimberi> *Monitor
[06:09] <nickrud> bahblahblahbah, sorry, called awa for a sec
[06:10] <ghpolo> cw2: no success ;/
[06:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do i tell gnome what apps to use for internet radio and such?
[06:10] <Fuzzy`> what does this mean? >> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[06:11] <nickrud> bahblahblahbah, but, /etc/hdparm.conf is where you set that stuff
[06:11] <vader> it is on the panel but doesn't show the status....just reads 0%
[06:12] <bahblahblahbah> if i set a partition as another file system it formats only that partition right?
[06:14] <vader> bimberi: do you think maybe booting with the power unplugged would do it?
[06:14] <bimberi> vader: I doubt it
[06:14] <vader> ok
[06:15] <Antinomy> I am at the partitioning point, and I cannot get it to finish partitioning and move to the next step.
[06:15] <vader> I am sort of concerned about this as it is a new laptop to me and I don't know the length of time it will go on a charge
[06:15] <Antinomy> anyone want to take a swing?
[06:15] <bahblahblahbah> what does it say?
[06:15] <bahblahblahbah> antinomy what does it say?
[06:15] <Antinomy> bahblahblahbah: me?
[06:15] <Antinomy> ok
[06:15] <bahblahblahbah> something about root?
[06:15] <Antinomy> it lists the 4 partitions
[06:16] <nickrud> Antinomy, try using page down, the correct selection is off the screen, if I remember correctly :)
[06:16] <bimberi> vader: You'll need to have one or more of acpi and apmd installed
[06:16] <regeya_> I'm playing around with openoffice's datasource view.  gah.  the query designer reminds me of access.  too many years since I messed with access.  meh.
[06:16] <Antinomy> I have them set up, I hit "finish partioning" and it just sends me back to the screen
[06:16] <bahblahblahbah> :X dunno
[06:16] <bahblahblahbah> sorry
[06:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> when i look through the backports for mozilla what version am i looking for?
[06:16] <vader> ok do the synaptic for it?
[06:16] <bahblahblahbah> nickrud: if i change the file system of a partition it only formats that partition right?
[06:16] <Antinomy> Does anyone know about this?
[06:17] <nickrud> bahblahblahbah, in what context? but in cfdisk, and the ubuntu install, I will say es
[06:17] <nickrud> *yes
[06:17] <Antinomy> Maybe if someone could review my partitions that might give us a clue - cuz I did not have this trouble on a single drive install
[06:17] <bahblahblahbah> i'm chaning for reifser or whatever to ext3
[06:17] <bahblahblahbah> changing* from*
[06:17] <bimberi> vader: yes
[06:17] <bahblahblahbah> and I'm leaving all the other partitions alone
[06:18] <Antinomy> 1) Primary 7.5 GB fat32 (XP)
[06:18] <vader> bimberi: doing it now
[06:18] <Antinomy> 2) Primary 7.5 GB ext3 (will be ubu)
[06:18] <Antinomy> 3) Primary 510.0 MB swap swap
[06:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> any ideas people?
[06:18] <Antinomy> 4) primary 44.5 GB fat32
[06:19] <La_PaRCa> whats a good mail list app?
[06:19] <La_PaRCa> something to manage a big mailing list
[06:19] <volvoguy> does anyone know of a good mdadm how-to that doesn't involve putting the system disc in the RAID array? the few on the wiki and forums seem overly complicated because of the booting requirement.
[06:20] <ray_> anybody know why my fire fox will not open a download window?
[06:20] <vader> bimberi: with the power unplugged it is still reading 0%
[06:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes cause it's busted
[06:20] <Antinomy> It's amazing to me that windows is easier to install than ubuntu.
[06:20] <vader> with both installed
[06:20] <ray_> why is that amazing?
[06:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> actually i find ubuntu easyer to install then windows
[06:21] <Fuzzy`> me too
[06:21] <volvoguy> Antinomy: it is? i thought ubuntu was both faster and easier.
[06:21] <Antinomy> oh really? then maybe you can help me?
[06:21] <jasmuz> Antinomy: you where the one that selected the expert install...dont come around talking about win here
[06:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok whats up? ^_^
[06:21] <Antinomy> volvoguy: great maybe you can help me
[06:21] <ray_> anybody know why my fire fox will not open a download window?
[06:21] <Fuzzy`> but I get an error that noone understands
[06:21] <vader> ChrucH_of_FoamY: same here
[06:21] <volvoguy> Antinomy: i can try. what kind of problem are you having?
[06:22] <Antinomy> volvoguy: thanks man.
[06:22] <ray_> anybody know why my fire fox will not open a download window?
[06:22] <volvoguy> Antinomy: keep in mind that i'm the artwork guy, not a programmer guy. :)
[06:22] <glick> excuse me, i followed the ubuntuguide.org for installing firefox java support but it didnt work
[06:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ray_ because it's broken right now
[06:22] <Antinomy> volvoguy: I am installing a dual boot. I set up the partitions according to some community advice, and it won't let me go past the partition screen
[06:22] <glick> how can i get jre workin with firefox
[06:22] <bimberi> vader: does acpi -V show anything? (in a terminal window)
[06:22] <ray_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, for you too?
[06:22] <vader> doing it now
[06:23] <Antinomy> volvoguy: Well, you're a lot nicer than some of the programming guys, and at least you offered to help
[06:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ray_ yes
[06:23] <volvoguy> Antinomy: do you get any error messages?
[06:23] <ray_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, well what the fuck
[06:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hey i did too
[06:23] <Antinomy> volvoguy: the sad thing is that I had to say "windows" to get most of their attentions
[06:23] <Antinomy> volvoguy: no, it just repeats the screen
[06:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ray_ use epiphany it's quick and kinda good
[06:23] <vader> bimberi: comes up with the license
[06:23] <volvoguy> Antinomy: heh. that's ok. i dual-boot two systems myself.
[06:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> watch out for popups though
[06:23] <glick> anyone kow how to hookup java?
[06:23] <Antinomy> volvoguy: it wont let me go forward
[06:23] <bimberi> vader: ... and nothing else?
[06:24] <Razor-X> anyone willing to lounge in the offtopic channel?
[06:24] <vader> nope
[06:24] <fishie> this might be a dumb question but can i mount a network drive in linux
[06:24] <volvoguy> Antinomy: so you set things up the way you want and tell it to write the partitions to disc?
[06:24] <Antinomy> volvoguy: that's cool
[06:24] <fishie> thats a fat32
[06:24] <ray_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, if i do a dpkg-reconfigure mozilla-firefox it works for a minute
[06:24] <Razor-X> robotgeek's the only one who's talked there in the last 18 hours
[06:24] <Antinomy> volvoguy: right.
[06:24] <vader> 0.07 sorry
[06:24] <Antinomy> and it just repeats the screen
[06:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ray_ really thats odd let me try
[06:24] <ray_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, yes try
[06:24] <vader> must be the ...noob in me lol
[06:25] <[2] BoxingFiend> glick: did ya install sun-j2rel1.5?
[06:25] <volvoguy> Antinomy: hmm.. let me go find one of those obscene amounts of screenshots sites so i can see where you're at.
[06:25] <gigaclon> whats the difference between sudo and fakeroot?
[06:25] <glick> [2] BoxingFiend, yes i did
[06:25] <bimberi> vader: naah - but it's getting outside my experience now
[06:25] <jasmuz> Antinomy: if you cant find a solution for it just redo the install
[06:25] <vader> ok
[06:25] <Antinomy> jasI already have. twice.
[06:25] <vader> is bob2 still here?
[06:26] <Antinomy> volvoguy: thanks for actually listening - and helping
[06:26] <vader> nope... don't see him lol
[06:26] <[2] BoxingFiend> glick: what do you get when ya type java -version
[06:26] <volvoguy> who does those mass screenshot things? is it o'reilly?
[06:26] <glick> [2] BoxingFiend,
[06:26] <glick> java version "1.5.0_03"
[06:26] <glick> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_03-b07)
[06:26] <glick> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_03-b07, mixed mode, sharing)
[06:26] <jasmuz> Antinomy: what are the specs of the install machine?
[06:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ray_ i did it to mine and it works fine
[06:27] <ray_> the sun-j2re or what ever packege doesnt set up firefox
[06:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> that could be because i have backports enabled though
[06:27] <bahblahblahbah> how do you dual-boot?
[06:27] <glick> sorry everyone
[06:27] <Antinomy> jasmuz: AMD 64 60 GB HD
[06:27] <ray_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, give it ten minutes
[06:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok
[06:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> will doo
[06:27] <vader> bimberi: I will give it a full charge and see what it says
[06:27] <jasmuz> Antinomy: are you installing 32 or 64 Ubuntu?
[06:27] <[2] BoxingFiend> glick: so which part of jre isn't working for you
[06:28] <Antinomy> 32 - was told to by forum moderator
[06:28] <glick> [2] BoxingFiend, when i try to access a java enabled webpage with firefox
[06:28] <ray_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, or quit firefox and try again
[06:28] <Antinomy> jasmuz: 32 - was told to by forum moderator
[06:28] <volvoguy> Antinomy: rereading here it looks like your partitions should be ok.
[06:28] <ray_> you have to creaTe a symbolic link to libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:28] <Antinomy> volvoguy: thanks
[06:28] <bob2> vader: ?
[06:28] <glick> ray_, where is that lib?
[06:29] <vader> yes sir
[06:29] <Antinomy> volvoguy: then I guess it's back to chairman bill's slopworks
[06:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ray_ trying again
[06:29] <Computer__Guru> there should be a program that screen's X apps
[06:29] <ray_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, did youexit the browser
[06:29] <vader> bob2: do you know how to get my battery status to work?
[06:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes
[06:29] <Antinomy> volvoguy: thanks again man
[06:29] <ray_> glick, if you have java installed you have it
[06:29] <[2] BoxingFiend> glick:  visit www.javatester.org and see if firefox have thinks you have java installed
[06:30] <volvoguy> Antinomy: i'm still lookin' around if you have time to hang out.
[06:30] <Antinomy> volvoguy: totally.
[06:30] <jasmuz> Antinomy: dont quit just yet
[06:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ray_ no shit it broke again hmm that is odd
[06:30] <vader> bob2: acpi -v gives me 0.07 and the license and the no warranty
[06:30] <volvoguy> Antinomy: ok
[06:30] <Antinomy> volvoguy: can I take a stab here?
[06:30] <bob2> vader: you need to be way more specific than that
[06:30] <glick> [2] BoxingFiend, i have to set up the java plugin and put a link to it in the mozilla plugin directory dont I?
[06:30] <bob2> vader: you mean 'acpi -V'
[06:30] <ray_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, yeah its never done that tome before
[06:30] <vader> yes
[06:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i wonder what breaks in there that would cause that to happen
[06:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ray_ same here
[06:30] <volvoguy> Antinomy: sure. shoot.
[06:30] <Antinomy> maybe I should install the XP partition, then do guided on the rest of the free space
[06:30] <mebaran151> is there a firefox backport for amd64
[06:30] <Computer__Guru> i wonder if you could actually use screen to screen X apps
[06:30] <Computer__Guru> hrmm
[06:31] <bahblahblahbah> should I install the remaining packages?
[06:31] <ray_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, i think it has something to do with the update
[06:31] <Antinomy> instead of custom-ing it
[06:31] <[2] BoxingFiend> glick:  nah, the apt script took care of that, after installing java you should just need to restart firefox
[06:31] <glick> i did restart firefox
[06:31] <glick> its not working
[06:31] <bahblahblahbah> should I install the remaining packages?
[06:31] <Kungas> hi
[06:31] <bahblahblahbah> hi Kungas
[06:31] <Antinomy> right? because doesnt ubuntu install handle the swap and all that jazz?
[06:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ray_ same here but what would cause it to work for a few but then break again?
[06:31] <[2] BoxingFiend> glick:  which version of firefox
[06:31] <ray_> no  java doesnt work after the apt script
[06:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> to me that just dosen't make sence
[06:31] <Kungas> i know this may sound stupid but what's the root passwords in ubuntu?
[06:32] <bahblahblahbah> hey IIIEars...back?
[06:32] <bob2> vader: so, paste the output of 'acpi -V' to #flood
[06:32] <bob2> Kungas: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:32] <ray_> it puts a link in the plugins directory but it is the wrong one
[06:32] <volvoguy> Antinomy: does it look like it actually writes the partitions? do you get a status bar for any amount of time?
[06:32] <glick> [2] BoxingFiend, the latest one thats available for ubuntu
[06:32] <bob2> Kungas: also, the installer explained it to you at the end of the install, and it's in the FAQ (in the /topic)
[06:32] <Kungas> bob2: thanks
[06:32] <vader> bob2: url please
[06:32] <bob2> vader: ?
[06:32] <visor_> guys have you noticed that j2re has been erased from the repos?
[06:32] <vader> for paste bin
[06:32] <visor_> i cant seem to install it
[06:32] <ray_> anybody else having problems downloading from firefox?
[06:32] <Antinomy> volvo - the partitions are already written! I'm redoing it.
[06:32] <bob2> vader: the irc channel #flood
[06:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> holy shoot!!! ^_^ for the first time ever my sound works perfectly with ubuntu ^_^
[06:33] <bob2> visor_: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:33] <bahblahblahbah> lol...i never listen to anything
[06:33] <ray_> visor_, yeah i was pissed
[06:33] <bob2> visor_: note that it was never in ubuntu itself
[06:33] <bahblahblahbah> i don't need sound ...XD
[06:33] <Antinomy> volvoguy: but now it wont let me past this screen at all! (it did once before)
[06:33] <Computer__Guru> bob2: follow with me here for a sec. lets say i run screen, and from within screen i launch say gftp, then i detach the screen... gftp still shows up, but the question is: if i log out of kde (thus destroying the gftp windows) and log back in and reattach the screen, will it redraw my application windows?
[06:33] <IIIEars_> Back from 7-11 with dinner. sushi, Doritos and a big gulp. - them is god eats... - lol
[06:33] <bahblahblahbah> lol
[06:33] <nickrud> glick, the short version is, get the sun jre, and, from the directory you downloaded it to:  sudo apt-get install build-essential javapackage  , then fakeroot make-jpkg jre<tab> ; then dpkg -i sun<tab>
[06:33] <bahblahblahbah> not a very healthy dinner IIIEars XD
[06:33] <visor_> bob2: yeah it was on ubuntu backports wasnt it?
[06:33] <bob2> visor_: no idea
[06:33] <volvoguy> Antinomy: ok. when you're on the "partition disks" screen, have you tried either "go back" or "no" to try and get to the main menu (where theoretically you could manually move on to the next step)
[06:33] <bahblahblahbah> they sell sushi at 7-11?!
[06:33] <bahblahblahbah> lol
[06:33] <glick> nickrud, ahhh screw that thats toomuch hassel theres got to be a damn easier way
[06:34] <bob2> Computer__Guru: nope, it will die
[06:34] <Antinomy> let me see
[06:34] <Computer__Guru> bob2: well that just sucks
[06:34] <bob2> Computer__Guru: if you really want to do that sort of thing with X, you need "xmove"
[06:34] <nickrud> glick, yeah, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:34] <Computer__Guru> bob2: i want screen for X apps
[06:34] <bob2> Computer__Guru: dude, you killed it's connection to the X server, what do you expect it to do?
[06:34] <bob2> Computer__Guru: as above
[06:34] <lexhider> is breezy xorg broken or is the problem on my end?
[06:34] <bob2> lexhider: /topic
[06:34] <Antinomy> No - I moved on to the "install base system" and it kicks me back to partition disks. I can't move on. There's something unacceptable about these partitions, is my guess
[06:35] <lexhider> bob2: thanks.
[06:35] <vader> bob2: is it the freenode #flood?
[06:35] <bahblahblahbah> Antinomy...err...is there a /root thingie
[06:35] <IIIEars_> Antinomy - added a swap parttion?
[06:35] <synd> is it me or is epiphany seem quite a bit faster than firefox
[06:35] <Antinomy> bahblahblahbah: yes
[06:35] <synd> or does*
[06:35] <Antinomy> bahblahblahbah: and a swap
[06:35] <bob2> vader: yes
[06:35] <nickrud> glick, that's the jdk, not the jre, the jre is easier, as I said
[06:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> for all you people who want to get a really good sound card get a soundblaster live digital 5.1
[06:36] <bob2> Computer__Guru: tho I do hear xmove was flakey in the past
[06:36] <Antinomy> 1) Primary 7.5 GB fat32 (XP)
[06:36] <Antinomy> 2) Primary 7.5 GB ext3 (will be ubu)
[06:36] <volvoguy> Antinomy: that's weird. you could try booting with a live cd and then use cfdisk to double-check things and fix if necessary.
[06:36] <Antinomy> 3) Primary 510.0 MB swap swap
[06:36] <truz24> nickrud, you displayed info on installing the jdk? Can you repost?
[06:36] <Computer__Guru> blah
[06:36] <glick> nickrud, i just want the fre
[06:36] <Antinomy> 4) primary 44.5 GB fat32
[06:36] <glick> jre
[06:36] <Varanger> what does kernel option pci=biosirq do ?
[06:36] <bob2> Computer__Guru: try it and see, or just use lftp
[06:36] <Antinomy> the last one was formerly /home but now has no mount point, and wont let me add one./
[06:36] <bob2> Varanger: work around broken acpi hardware, I gather
[06:36] <Computer__Guru> i was just using ftp as an example
[06:36] <vader> bob2: do you see it there?
[06:37] <Varanger> bob2: for example...
[06:37] <Computer__Guru> i would really like the ability to screen X apps :D
[06:37] <Varanger> ?
[06:37] <nickrud> truz24, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java , it's a good link based on the poster
[06:37] <bob2> Varanger: for example what?
[06:37] <ray_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, i just downloaded the firefox from the website and it works fine
[06:37] <bob2> Computer__Guru: so, are you not reading what I'm saying, or have you tried xmove already?
[06:37] <wing`> im trying to install Enemy territory, but it says error in md5 checksum. i will have to download it all again?
[06:37] <zerboxx> Anyone here have experience with point2play and cedega?
[06:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ray_ now that is great to know i will do the same
[06:37] <Computer__Guru> im looking at it :)
[06:37] <Antinomy> volvoguy: ok, 2 quesations. Would this happen because I'm using an x86 install disk on a AMD 64?
[06:37] <bob2> vader: this will be a very frustrating conversation if you don't read what I say
[06:37] <truz24> nickrud, thanks
[06:37] <bob2> vader: 'acpi -V' is not what you just ran
[06:37] <Varanger> bob2: what do you mean by brokem acpi ?
[06:38] <volvoguy> Antinomy: no. that shouldn't be a problem.
[06:38] <bob2> Varanger: do you know what ACPI is?
[06:38] <nickrud> truz24, I'm trusting the poster :)
[06:38] <Antinomy> volvoguy: AND, what would happen if I just had a small boot for windows and the rest of the space for ubuntu? And did guided partitioning?
[06:38] <tim_> is there a 'move directory' command?
[06:38] <Antinomy> could my windows side see my linux side?
[06:39] <bob2> tim_: "mv"
[06:39] <Antinomy> tim_: mvdir
[06:39] <vader> bob2: sorry out that
[06:39] <tim> god thats confusing :(
[06:39] <tim> lol
[06:39] <bob2> Antinomy: windows can't natively do anything with linux parttions, aside from formatting them
[06:39] <glick> what do i have to do to get jre working for firefox?
[06:39] <Antinomy> bob2: ok
[06:39] <Computer__Guru> bob2: so once i start an xmove server with the command xmove, how do i get things to run under it?
[06:39] <Varanger> bob2: yes, it's something for power managemente
[06:39] <tim_> mvdir text/ ~/
[06:39] <bob2> mvdir does not exist, afaik
[06:39] <tim_> bash: mvdir: command not found
[06:39] <volvoguy> Antinomy: i was thinking something like that. keep your WinXP where it is, then in windows make the second partition your FAT32 partition and leave the rest of the drive as free space.
[06:39] <tim_> yea
[06:39] <IIIEars_> Antinomy - there is a extfs driver for windows read only
[06:39] <bob2> tim_: it's mv
[06:39] <bahblahblahbah> it says the Debian Package Management Tool, apt, is now configured....
[06:39] <wm_eddie> Antinomy: There are a couple of cmd.exe programs that can read ext3 and the like.
[06:39] <bahblahblahbah> add another apt source?
[06:39] <bahblahblahbah> should I add another apt source?
[06:39] <Antinomy> ok let me try volvo
[06:39] <bob2> tim_: and it's not very confusing, you use mv to move anything on a filesystem
[06:39] <Varanger> bob2: that's why I don't understand why a broken power managemente can corrupt pci
[06:39] <bob2> bahblahblahbah: no
[06:39] <Antinomy> thanks all let me see
[06:40] <bahblahblahbah> bob2: thx
[06:40] <volvoguy> Antinomy: that only works if your FAT partition is empty right now though.
[06:40] <wing`> im trying to install Enemy territory, but it says error in md5 checksum. i will have to download it all again? anyone?
[06:40] <tim_> thanks bob!
[06:40] <bob2> Varanger: it does other things, too, like arrange irq lines
[06:40] <tim> bob2, I'm "tim" not "tim_" I'm just saying its confusing cuz I keep getting highlighted when ur talking to "tim_" lol
[06:40] <bob2> ow
[06:40] <tim_> o man...lol
[06:40] <bahblahblahbah> Install GRUB or LILO?
[06:40] <ray_> glick, talk to me in private
[06:40] <bob2> bahblahblahbah: just use the default, grub
[06:41] <ray_> wing`, yes sorry
[06:41] <bahblahblahbah> bob2: thx again :)
[06:41] <tim_> i need to change my name anyway...bitchx defaults
[06:41] <Computer__Guru> bob2: did you see my question? it's not very helpful by way of instructions.. once i start xmove, how do i get applications to connect to it?
[06:41] <mgcross> having a problem...sudo staus seems to stick around for differant apps...what's up with that?
[06:41] <mgcross> *status
[06:41] <bob2> vader: and what does 'uname -r' say?
[06:41] <wing`> ray_, why is that? i used k4x to download it, maybe is it?
[06:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm i need to find a way to tweak the volume sepratly for 2 diffrent apps
[06:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i can't figure out how to do it
[06:42] <bob2> ChurcH_of_FoamY: not possible, sorry
[06:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> really? why not?
[06:42] <bob2> unless the apps have their own volume control
[06:42] <sri> anybody know what package 'xauth' is in breezy?  it's missing.
[06:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[06:42] <mgcross> that is, I only need to enter sudo pass once and all apps requiring sudo staus will open for a while without prompting for password
[06:42] <bob2> why can't I fly by flapping my arms?
[06:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> beep does but teamspeak dosen't
[06:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and if i turn beeps sound up and down teamspeaks sound also mucks up
[06:43] <IIIEars_> mgcross - Ubuntu caches your password for 15mins
[06:44] <mgcross> IIIEars: how safe is THAT? kinda freaks me out...
[06:45] <bahblahblahbah> well I'm gonna go now
[06:45] <bahblahblahbah> thx for all the help
[06:45] <bahblahblahbah> I'll come back later if it still doesn't work though -.-
[06:45] <mgcross> IIIEars: any way to change that...or must I "go forth and read mans, my son"?
[06:45] <IIIEars_> mgcross - dunno - left it at the default. - shepish grin
[06:46] <robotgeek> hey..i just burnt my first cd in linux!!
[06:46] <HrdwrBoB> woo
[06:46] <mgcross> IIIEars: hehe...no need for sheepishness...do you get paid for this?
[06:46] <billytwowilly> yay...
[06:47] <IIIEars_> robotgeek - nice! - Welcome - not a reason in the world to go back to windows adware/spyware and closed source.
[06:48] <robotgeek> IIIEars_, i know...and u know what the most interesting part is ?? It was done an internal drive in a box casing!
[06:48] <vader> IIIEars: and viruses lest we forget
[06:48] <gigaclon> Wee, java works
[06:48] <wm_eddie> Damn problems.  I understand what jwz switched...
[06:48] <robotgeek> a 65$ external dvd writer for my laptop :)
[06:48] <IIIEars_> trialware/adware a coopted active-x controls. - bah (hugs his Ubuntu box)
[06:49] <robotgeek> Now, i don't want to go to OS X!
[06:49] <vader> IIIEars: true, very true
[06:49] <bob2> ChurcH_of_FoamY: er
[06:49] <bob2> Computer__Guru: er
[06:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes?
[06:50] <volvoguy> well folks, i'm off to figure out raid on my own. wish me luck. :)
[06:50] <bob2> Computer__Guru: so I went and installed it...and found a file called using_xmove.txt.  that doesn't explain it?
[06:50] <visor_> nvu was droped from repos too?
[06:50] <bob2> ChurcH_of_FoamY: sorry, bad tab completion
[06:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[06:50] <bob2> visor_: it's never been in ubuntu, afaik
[06:50] <IIIEars_> nvu is a snap to install
[06:50] <visor_> bob2: well it was on backports
[06:51] <bob2> vader: your kernel is pretty old, perhaps uprading to hoary would give you acpi support
[06:51] <visor_> bob2: it seems many packages have been droped
[06:51] <bob2> vader: or maybe your computer predates acpi
[06:51] <bob2> visor_: from backports?
[06:51] <bob2> nvu would never have been a "backport", by definition
[06:51] <vader> bob2:okay, I guess I need to download that then?
[06:51] <admrl_> could anyone help me installing a grub bootsplash
[06:52] <visor_> bob2: yes, i havent found java, nvu and other
[06:52] <vader> bob2: it is p2 366 with 256 mb ram.....just so you know
[06:52] <glick> admrl_, why waste your time with that? who cares abut boot splashes? once it boots its booted
[06:52] <bob2> vader: then it almost certainly doesn't have acpi
[06:52] <robotgeek> *out*
[06:53] <vader> bob2: ok, so it won't work even with HOARY then?
[06:53] <IIIEars_> visor_ - the ubuntuguide for j2re was tough for me to follow. searched a bit on the ubuntu dev forums and found a j2re.deb file hiddeen there
[06:53] <bob2> vader: you don't have any acpi hardware
[06:53] <mgcross> just a heads up....ripped whole cd's to my drive...no didn't back them up...was having a hard time getting full menu support...ogle does the job just fine...
[06:53] <vader> hmmmm....ok
[06:54] <vader> just trying to get my battery indicatior to work... and now don't know if I can lol
[06:54] <admrl_> glick, i wanna install a splash screen cuz it would b way more fun
[06:54] <seth_k> what's that Xorg program that I can use to adjust my screen, and then it'll spit out a Modeline for me to use? Anyone know?
[06:54] <bob2> so, 'sudo modprobe apm'
[06:55] <glick> admrl_, if you get your kicks from boot spash screens i would seriusly re-evaluate the direction my life is heading in if i were you
[06:55] <admrl_> lol
[06:55] <bob2> come on, people
[06:55] <redtech> wow
[06:55] <thoreauputic> seth_k: xvidtune ?
[06:56] <Nameeater> the grub text spash screen isn't very exciting, it has to be admited
[06:56] <seth_k> thoreauputic, that's it, cheers
[06:56] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:56] <vader> ty bob2....ty ty ty
[06:56] <admrl_> THANK YOU Nameeater!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[06:56] <Nameeater> :)
[06:56] <IIIEars_> Be nice guys "Ubuntu" Hamanity to others remember?
[06:56] <wing`> anyone there can help me running teamspeak?
[06:56] <vader> it is now showing 100%
[06:57] <zerboxx> Why is it that when I try to run a program, nothing is happening, while I was using it a while ago and it was fine?
[06:57] <admrl_> can anyone tell me where i can go to get help
[06:57] <glick> IIIEars_, they say dont kick a man when hes down, I say kick a man when he is down and he will get up faster!
[06:57] <vader> night one and all, it is like an hour past the bed time.....see you all tomorrow
[06:57] <bob2> admrl_: try talking to the bootsplash people
[06:57] <bob2> but it will be a large amount of work, for little gain
[06:57] <thoreauputic> glick: assuming you didn't cripple him, of course ;)
[06:57] <admrl_> whos the bootsplash people
[06:58] <deFrysk> nuthouse ? ;p
[06:58] <admrl_> nice
[06:58] <deFrysk> sorry, just woke up
[06:58] <deFrysk> first coffee and stuff
[06:59] <zerboxx> what is a good menu editor for ubuntu? (using gnome)
[06:59] <admrl_> * Now talking on #bootsplashpeople
[06:59] <admrl_> * kornbluth.freenode.net sets mode +n #bootsplashpeople
[06:59] <Burgundavia> zerboxx, smeg
[06:59] <admrl_> there wasnt anyone there
[06:59] <admrl_> ;)
[06:59] <IIIEars_> amrl_ - linuxquestions.org has some good exmples and howtos. give it a look
[06:59] <bob2> admrl_: you'll need to go find them using google or something
[07:00] <deFrysk> ubuntuguide has a a howto too i think
[07:00] <bob2> admrl_: but be aware that you'll have to put in a lot of work, and afaik it involves making your own incompatible kernel
[07:00] <admrl_> ive been looking but everything that they tell me to do doesnt work
[07:00] <wing`> wtf is this? Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[07:00] <wing`> it happens when i try to run TeamSpeak.sh
[07:00] <ray_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, do you have the backports
[07:00] <bob2> wing`: you're running it as root?
[07:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ray_ yes i do
[07:00] <ray_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, if you upgrade firfox from there it works
[07:00] <wing`> yes
[07:00] <admrl_> ok well thanx guys i guess i will just keep looking
[07:01] <ray_> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you can tell this has been pissing me off
[07:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ray_ which one do i pick i looked but coulden't figure it out in syn
[07:01] <bob2> wing`: then don't do that
[07:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ray_ same here man same here
[07:01] <Nameeater> admrl_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30341.html
[07:02] <ray_> umm i just did a apt-get install mozilla-firefox and it downloaded the new one after un uncommented the backports
[07:02] <IIIEars_> admrl_ http://www.frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/5.04/
[07:02] <wing`> now im trying without root and it isnt opening
[07:02] <wing`> no error
[07:02] <SDFH_Linux> can you upgrade safely to firefox 1.0.4??
[07:02] <bob2> wing`: then figure out why
[07:02] <bob2> wing`: why did you run it as root to begin with?
[07:02] <bob2> SDFH_Linux: not within hoary
[07:02] <wing`> because im noob man, its like my 2nd time with linux
[07:02] <SDFH_Linux> it breaks things bob2?
[07:03] <deFrysk> the one from backports works fine btw
[07:03] <IIIEars_> wing - Welcome! :)
[07:03] <bob2> wing`: so, lesson of the day: don't run random things as root
[07:03] <wing`> ok, i wont
[07:03] <bob2> SDFH_Linux: only in the sense that the packages aren\t as well tested as those in ubuntu
[07:03] <nickrud> deFrysk, I was being generic, which package is worth using?
[07:03] <bob2> I'd just get the tarball from mozilla.org, if I really cared
[07:04] <deFrysk> nickrud, none really , exept for smeg and gcursor
[07:04] <wing`> nice, no error msgs
[07:04] <wing`> and it doesnt open
[07:04] <bob2> wing`: you might have broken it by running it as root
[07:04] <glick> anyone in the philadelphia, USA area
[07:04] <ray_> later
[07:04] <nickrud> deFrysk, ok you got me. I'll get backports long enough for those :)
[07:04] <wing`> ok, ill try to reinstall it
[07:04] <bob2> wing`: that won't help
[07:04] <deFrysk> nickrud, hehe
[07:05] <bob2> wing`: look in your home directory and see if therere are any config files for it
[07:05] <wing`> for what?
[07:05] <teimu_> does anyone know how to change the default server joined when you start up BitchX
[07:06] <bob2> export IRC_SERVER=blah
[07:06] <wing`> bob2, configs file for TS?
[07:06] <bob2> or just don't use bitchx
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> it has some config files yu can make teimu_  also.
[07:06] <bob2> wing`: yes
[07:06] <wing`> theres nothing im my home directory
[07:06] <teimu_> export IRC_SERVER=irc.freenode.net
[07:06] <wing`> in TeamSpeak folder there are lots of files
[07:07] <thoreauputic> wing`: you would be looking for a "hidden" file like .ts*  (note dot)
[07:08] <wing`> theres a folder .teamspeak2
[07:08] <wing`> .ts too
[07:08] <Trace> Hello, when i try to ssh -X james@ip, why can't I contorl remote desktop but just a terminal? just like -x?
[07:08] <thoreauputic> wing`: that would be it I think
[07:08] <wing`> TeamSpeak.conf
[07:08] <wing`> inside
[07:08] <thoreauputic> wing`: have a look at those
[07:08] <bob2> Trace: that's what -X does
[07:09] <bob2> Trace: if you start an X program in that terminal, it will pop up on the machine in front of you
[07:10] <wing`> thoreauputic, just some random char
[07:10] <kritty> the sound button on Gnome.... is it a pakage or just a front end for alsa?
[07:10] <thoreauputic> wing`: other possibility: check the owner of ~/.Xauthority
[07:10] <Trace> oh~~~, thx very much bob2!! i misunderstand it.
[07:10] <bob2> Trace: you can use VNC if you want to access the existing desktop
[07:11] <nickrud> heh, smeg has changed
[07:11] <Trace> Actually, i want to try freenx, but with no luck
[07:11] <wing`> thoreauputic,  wheres that file?
[07:11] <thoreauputic> wing`: generally speaking you can delete dot files and they will regenerate next time you run the app - of course you lose the configuration and have to start from scratch though
[07:12] <thoreauputic> wing`: your home dir
[07:12] <wing`> and if i use the uninstall script
[07:12] <wing`> and then install again
[07:12] <IIIEars_> tightvnc is an off shhot of vnc works pretty well. even if docs are spartan
[07:12] <vladuz976> would someone be so kind and help me out here.  i get permissions problems. i can't access or save anything without sudo anymore
[07:12] <thoreauputic> wing`: as bob2 said, that won't fix your per-user settings
[07:12] <abhayks> enlightment on Breezy
[07:13] <abhayks> any help ?
[07:13] <frank> !wlan
[07:13] <ubotu> Wish i knew, frank
[07:13] <frank> !wireless
[07:13] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:13] <wing`> there are lots of characters too
[07:13] <Leviathann> ubuntu got popular real quick
[07:13] <wing`> in xautho
[07:13] <kritty> frank you are having wirelss issues?
[07:13] <frank> no
[07:13] <thoreauputic> wing`: what does  ls -l .Xauthority  say (run in your home dir) ?
[07:13] <zerboxx> If anyone here can help me with Point2Play, that would be great! I click on "Install" and nothing happens
[07:14] <vladuz976> hello, anybody here who can help me out?
[07:14] <bob2> isn't point2play proprietary commercial software?
[07:14] <bob2> vladuz976: you need to be a lot more specific
[07:14] <deFrysk> bob2, as in cedega I believe
[07:14] <wing`> -rw-------  1 pedro pedro 164 2005-07-21 21:48 .Xauthority
[07:14] <wing`> thoreauputic,
[07:14] <vladuz976> bob2: i installed oobeta today, now i can't save anything without sudo i can't even view man pages
[07:15] <thoreauputic> wing`: OK - that is OK then, assuming you are "pedro" ;)
[07:15] <Leviathann> are there any screenshots of stock ubuntu?
[07:15] <wing`> yes
[07:15] <wing`> i am :P
[07:15] <bob2> vladuz976: how did you manage that?
[07:15] <wing`> thoreauputic, all this shit beucase i ran it as root?
[07:15] <bob2> I assume you ran some messed up chmod or chown
[07:15] <wing`> because*
[07:16] <vladuz976> bob2: ok, the only thing that i changed permissions on is "soffice" in /opt/oo/programs/"
[07:16] <vladuz976> bob2: vladuz976@coca:~$ man xeyes
[07:16] <vladuz976> man: can't create a temporary filename: Permission denied
[07:16] <thoreauputic> wing`: hard to say - I don't know TeamSpeak (just trying a few possible gotchas)
[07:16] <vladuz976> bob2: i am sure i did
[07:17] <vladuz976> bob2: don't know what else it could be
[07:17] <mhz> moin!
[07:17] <wing`> i always installed it without problems in another distro
[07:17] <vladuz976> bob2: is there cure?
[07:17] <wing`> but now it just dont execute
[07:17] <Trace> Hello, does anybody know how to use freenx?
[07:17] <mhz> Has anyone know how to enter the BIOS in a Compaq M300???
[07:19] <thoreauputic> wing`: try backing up those config dirs/files in your home dir and rerunning it
[07:19] <thoreauputic> wing`: or blow then away
[07:19] <thoreauputic> 8them
[07:19] <thoreauputic> bah "them"
[07:19] <bob2> Trace: it's kinda inapproriate to join another's distro channel to ask for help with ubuntu
[07:19] <bob2> try asking a freenx-specific channel or list
[07:20] <wing`> its shows TeamSpeak.bin running
[07:20] <wing`> in the process list
[07:20] <vladuz976> bob2: do you have any idea for me or no?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> wing`: ah, well kill it and try again
[07:21] <bob2> vladuz976: unless you can figure out what you did, I don't think it's really possible to fix it
[07:21] <wing`> same thing
[07:21] <wing`> its there
[07:21] <bob2> strace'ing man would be a good start, but I have other things to do, so you'll have to find someone else to examien that for you
[07:21] <wing`> but it doesnt open
[07:21] <bob2> good luck
[07:21] <thoreauputic> wing`: since you ran it as root you will have to use sudo to kill it
[07:21] <vladuz976> bob2: like i said i th ink i ran a messed up chown or chmod
[07:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ray_ did you uninstall the "new" firefox first?
[07:21] <jasoncohen> firefox 1.0.6 can now be downloaded from backports-staging. it appears to work fine
[07:22] <jasoncohen> *installed
[07:22] <wing`> im killing using the X interface
[07:22] <bob2> vladuz976: so look through your shell history
[07:22] <wing`> and its working
[07:22] <drcode> hi all
[07:22] <wing`> at least it disappear
[07:22] <vladuz976> bob2: how do you do that
[07:22] <drcode> how I can see realplayer movies
[07:22] <drcode> in firefox?
[07:22] <nickrud> what's the standard permission for /tmp, anyway?
[07:22] <drcode> I have download realplayer
[07:23] <dbernar1> hi.
[07:23] <jasoncohen> drcode, you'll probably want mozilla-mplayer and w32codecs (the latter is in hoary-extras)
[07:23] <nickrud> I can never remember
[07:23] <bob2> vladuz976: ctrl-r chmod
[07:23] <thoreauputic> $ ls -ld /tmp
[07:23] <thoreauputic> drwxrwxrwt  28 root root 8192 2005-07-22 14:29 /tmp
[07:23] <drcode> I Hve installed it
[07:23] <bob2> vladuz976: drwxrwxrwt
[07:23] <nickrud> yah, but converting that to a chmod :)
[07:23] <vladuz976> bob2: what?
[07:23] <drcode> mediaplayer movies work
[07:24] <WMCoolmon> hey, i'm trying to get Qt working under Ubuntu, but am getting "undefined reference to `QGList::clear()'" and a number of other, similar errors
[07:24] <liquidten> drcode: if you use mplayer-mozilla and w32codecs make sure that your /etc/mplayerplug-in.conf  has enable-real=1
[07:24] <mhz> Trace: F10 did the trick :)
[07:24] <wing`> how do i list the processes in terminal?
[07:24] <thoreauputic> wing`: ps aux
[07:24] <bahblahblahbah> hello
[07:24] <dabaR> yo
[07:24] <bahblahblahbah> err can someone help me?
[07:24] <bahblahblahbah> i cannot use sudo
[07:24] <liquidten> drcode: then close firefox and do an rm -rf ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat and then restart firefox and test real files
[07:24] <bahblahblahbah> it says "azure is not in the sudoers file" or something like that
[07:24] <bob2> vladuz976: anyway, good luck
[07:24] <mhz> bahblahblahbah: why can't ya
[07:25] <drcode> thanx
[07:25] <drcode> I will check it now
[07:25] <bahblahblahbah> I can't edit sudoers file either
[07:25] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah: is this the original/first user you created?
[07:25] <vladuz976> bob2: thanks, god bless you
[07:26] <wing`> i think its not running
[07:26] <wing`> i cant find it in the list
[07:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bob2 how do you use the automatic nick completeion feature?
[07:26] <dabaR> is it your computer?
[07:26] <bahblahblahbah> thoreauputic: well i reinstalled but since reinstall yes excluding root
[07:26] <thoreauputic> wing`: try using  pgrep <command>
[07:26] <vladuz976> ChurcH_of_FoamY: TAB
[07:26] <IIIEars_> Church, use a comma,
[07:26] <bob2> ChurcH_of_FoamY: first couple of letters, then tab
[07:26] <IIIEars_> Lol- supposed to work.
[07:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i see
[07:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thanx
[07:27] <RLogout> Hello
[07:27] <bahblahblahbah> Hi
[07:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hi ^_^
[07:27] <wing`> command to start teamspeak?
[07:27] <bahblahblahbah> Hi
[07:27] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah: I assume it was a standard install? You didn't use the "expert' option?
[07:27] <bahblahblahbah> i did use expert option
[07:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wing`,  ./TeamSpeak
[07:27] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah: that's the problem
[07:27] <bahblahblahbah> because the CD said the drive would be formatted unless you used "expert"
[07:27] <RLogout> How are you blabla ?
[07:27] <wing`> pgrep ./TeamSpeak ?
[07:28] <bahblahblahbah> Fine...
[07:28] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah: you will have to use visudo as root
[07:28] <wing`> nothing happens
[07:28] <bahblahblahbah> visudo?
[07:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wing`, you must be in the TeamSpeak directory for it to work though
[07:28] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah: to edit the sudoers file
[07:28] <wing`> yes
[07:28] <bahblahblahbah> can you give me the syntax of the function?
[07:28] <wing`> i am
[07:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thoreauputic,  hey man whats up?
[07:28] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah: ?
[07:28] <bahblahblahbah> like how do i use the function..
[07:28] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: hi FoamY :)
[07:29] <bahblahblahbah> lol and thank you thoreauputic for spelling my name correctly :o
[07:29] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah: as root, type visudo
[07:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thoreauputic, i just got my new sound card in and it rocks
[07:29] <thoreauputic> heh
[07:29] <bahblahblahbah> I can't logon as root...-.-
[07:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[07:29] <wing`> thoreauputic,  after i type ./TeamSpeak that black square keeps blinking and nothing happens
[07:29] <bahblahblahbah> thoreauputic: once my friend made me a siggy and he spelled it blahblahblah XD
[07:29] <mhz> Has anyone here ever set up a "pc server" CD drive with ubuntu to make other machines boot from it???
[07:29] <wing`> no errros / no starts
[07:29] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah: you created a root pass in the expert install, presumably
[07:29] <wing`> errors
[07:29] <bahblahblahbah> yes
[07:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wing`, it takes a moment to run
[07:30] <wing`> i waited more than 1 minute
[07:30] <bahblahblahbah> thoreauputic: yes
[07:30] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah: then su ; <password> ; visudo ....
[07:30] <poningru> anyone see Asa Doltzers blog?
[07:30] <drcode> dosnt work
[07:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wing`, i would start checking for dependancys then
[07:30] <bahblahblahbah> do i include the ";"?
[07:30] <drcode> I try to run stream movie from firefox
[07:30] <worm3rd> Hi. Could someone tell me how to get the usbnet module installed?
[07:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> maybe it's missing something
[07:30] <drcode> it give blackscreen
[07:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it works fine for me
[07:31] <bahblahblahbah> lol is there always like 5 conversations going on at the same time here?
[07:31] <bahblahblahbah> o.O
[07:31] <mhz> bahblahblahbah: just in case, the password you are supposed to provide at the sudo prompt is your password, not the root one :)
[07:31] <bob2> worm3rd: you already have it installed?
[07:31] <bob2> bahblahblahbah: on slow days
[07:31] <nickrud> lol, very slow days
[07:31] <worm3rd> bob2: Well, I do not see it in /etc/modules
[07:31] <poningru> drcode: what plugin and what kind of movie?
[07:31] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah: no, type each on a separate line - are you sure you are "expert" *g* ?
[07:31] <wing`> ChurcH_of_FoamY, isnt there any package archive where i just find TeamSpeak and it downloads all its needed and installs it?
[07:31] <bahblahblahbah> oh ok
[07:31] <zenlunatic> bahblahblahbah: its called irc deal with it
[07:31] <bahblahblahbah> thorequputic: thx alot
[07:31] <bahblahblahbah> lol...gotcha zenlunatic
[07:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wing`, that would be nice woulden't it
[07:31] <thoreauputic> mhz: he made a root account and used the expert install
[07:31] <bob2> worm3rd: indeed, it's not loaded by default
[07:31] <zenlunatic> bahblahblahbah: in a crowded room in a building do a lot of converstations go on?
[07:31] <drcode> mozila-mplayer
[07:31] <worm3rd> bob2: ...
[07:32] <mhz> thoreauputic: ever set up an ubuntu booting server?
[07:32] <RQ> ehlo
[07:32] <drcode> its on stream movie
[07:32] <mhz> thoreauputic: LOL
[07:32] <thoreauputic> mhz: nope
[07:32] <drcode> of realplayer
[07:32] <wing`> ChurcH_of_FoamY, how can i check the dependancys?
[07:32] <zenlunatic> bahblahblahbah: i means seriously what did you expect me to say to such an ubsurd question?
[07:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wing`, i noticed that after installing some kde stuff that it seems to work fine
[07:32] <poningru> drcode: mplayer cannot play realplayer
[07:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wing`, ask bob2 he might know
[07:32] <RQ> hi ppl
[07:32] <nickrud> poningru, ?
[07:32] <poningru> unless you have the crazy plugin
[07:32] <wing`> bob2, ?
[07:32] <bob2> worm3rd: if you want it loaded, load it
[07:32] <nickrud> ?
[07:32] <mhz> thoreauputic: I just got an M300 (compaq laptop) and it only boot XP :(
[07:32] <drcode> so what I Need to install?
[07:32] <worm3rd> bob2: Yes, but how do I load it? =(
[07:32] <bob2> worm3rd: sudo modprobe usbnet
[07:33] <mhz> thoreauputic: but I can set up the BIOS to use PXE
[07:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wing`, i just started using this a little while ago but haven't had any trouble
[07:33] <bahblahblahbah> do i do (username) ALL=(ALL) ALL?
[07:33] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah: yes
[07:33] <poningru> nickrud: how else do you play realplayer in mplayer?
[07:33] <mhz> thoreauputic: just that I have no clue how to set the ubuntu server for it
[07:33] <wing`> :/ i need to install this man
[07:33] <zenlunatic> bahblahblahbah: i think thats a sudoers line
[07:33] <bob2> bahblahblahbah: rob     ALL=(ALL) ALL
[07:33] <zenlunatic> bahblahblahbah: /etc/sudoers
[07:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wing`, don't get discouraged man it will work
[07:33] <nickrud> poningru, I just never thought of it as the 'crazy' plugin
[07:33] <bahblahblahbah> rob? my username definitely isn't rob
[07:33] <poningru> oh
[07:33] <bob2> wing`: 'need" is a little strong.  how did you install it to begin with?
[07:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wing`, you just have to be patent and figure it out
[07:34] <bob2> bahblahblahbah: duh, use yours...
[07:34] <poningru> well its not in any repositories
[07:34] <zenlunatic> bahblahblahbah: duh! substitute it
[07:34] <zenlunatic> bob2: heh
[07:34] <poningru> dont you have to compile it yourself?
[07:34] <wing`> bob2, i just ran setup.sh
[07:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wing`, i use it and it works better than in windows and i run my own server with my own linux group to discuss ideas
[07:34] <nickrud> poningru, now, you make me go try realplayer streams with mozilla-mplayer, so I can refresh my memory :)
[07:35] <bob2> wing`: it has no instructions?
[07:35] <wing`> no, its done by a friendly graphic interface
[07:35] <wing`> just next, next, next, finish
[07:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bob2, yea it does i'll help him install it
[07:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wing`, ok here's how you install it
[07:36] <bahblahblahbah> znelunatic/bob2: yah i know...-.-
[07:36] <bahblahblahbah> so how do i exit after i'm done modifying?
[07:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wing`, where did you download it"?
[07:36] <vladuz976> bob2: i found all chmod and chown in history, can you take a look at it. it's not that  much
[07:36] <wing`> at goteamspeak.com
[07:36] <poningru> nickrud: let me know how it works out
[07:36] <poningru> wait how did that get started
[07:36] <poningru> was I supposed to help someone?
[07:36] <zenlunatic> bahblahblahbah: man vi man emacs man nano
[07:36] <nickrud> mplayer plays my real media on my disk, anyway, first test
[07:36] <vladuz976> or anyone else feel like looking at this? http://rafb.net/paste/results/AvV6AS93.html
[07:36] <zenlunatic> bahblahblahbah: man editor
[07:37] <bob2> zenlunatic: thats not very helpful
[07:37] <bahblahblahbah> man editor?
[07:37] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah:  :wq  in vi (which is what visudo is)
[07:37] <zenlunatic> bahblahblahbah: what editor
[07:37] <poningru> nickrud: do you have official realplayer installed?
[07:37] <bahblahblahbah> inside the terminal
[07:37] <bahblahblahbah> i'm using visudo
[07:37] <zenlunatic> bob2: well we can't possibly tell him everything
[07:37] <bob2> zenlunatic: sure, but you don't need to give people confusing and unhelpful comments, either
[07:37] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah: visudo is vi (surprisingly enough)
[07:37] <zenlunatic> bob2: how is man unhelpful?
[07:38] <nickrud> poningru, of course
[07:38] <bob2> zenlunatic: so, where in the vi man page does it explain how to save and quit?
[07:38] <poningru> oh well I am talking about the hacked lib
[07:38] <zenlunatic> bob2: don't know don't use vi actually
[07:38] <bob2> zenlunatic: or are you suggesting that someone should read all three man pages you mentioned, then all linked documentation?
[07:38] <IIIEars_> #debian is the RTFM channekl Ubuntu tries to be friendlier
[07:38] <nickrud> poningru, ah, a purist, you are :)
[07:38] <bahblahblahbah> bob2: how do i save and quit?
[07:38] <poningru> hehe not really
[07:39] <bob2> bahblahblahbah: :wq
[07:39] <poningru> I have the official realplayer as well
[07:39] <bahblahblahbah> thoreauputic: visudo is vi?
[07:39] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah: i told you
[07:39] <zenlunatic> bob2: i like mg myself
[07:39] <bahblahblahbah> :wq...ok
[07:39] <bahblahblahbah> thx
[07:39] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah: of course
[07:39] <poningru> just wondering if someone uses the 'free' one
[07:39] <bob2> IIIEars_: do you think it's bad to point someone at documentation instead of typign out the same answer 20 times a day?
[07:39] <IIIEars_> blahblah, - :wq  colon w-rite q-uit
[07:40] <zenlunatic> bob2: my point its better to teach a man how to fish then give him free fish for a day
[07:40] <IIIEars_> bob2 - type it until ya get tired and pass the baton. - ;)
[07:40] <k4rp0r> how can i change my port in bittornado (using ubuntu)
[07:40] <mhz> hmm, ANY one ever installed Ubuntu from HardDisk?
[07:40] <poningru> mhz: what do you mean?
[07:40] <bob2> zenlunatic: indeed, and I agree, but the docs you pointed at where a) mostly not relevant, and b) didn't have his/her answer anyway
[07:40] <mhz> poningru: I have laptop with no cd boot nor floppy boot
[07:40] <bob2> k4rp0r: it takes two flags for that, --max-port and --min-port
[07:41] <poningru> ooph
[07:41] <poningru> mhz: you have not drives?
[07:41] <vladuz976> so no one can look at this 20 line paste and help me out?
[07:41] <zenlunatic> bob2: well theres so many vi clones its hard to point to existing docs
[07:41] <mhz> poningru: so my options are netboot or hardisk boot
[07:41] <poningru> do you have usb port?
[07:41] <zenlunatic> bob2: why i don't use vi
[07:41] <cartman> anyone knows where did setxkbmap gone in breezy?
[07:41] <bob2> zenlunatic: no, there's a very few, and they all have the same basic command set
[07:41] <IIIEars_> bob2 - didn't think it would come across quite that way bob2. - you are invaluable here.
[07:41] <cartman> daniels: maybe you know :D
[07:41] <mhz> poningru: netboot will take me lot to learn before I can even test the lapop with ubuntu
[07:41] <bob2> IIIEars_: I was just curious about that you thought
[07:42] <mhz> poningru: yes, 1 USB port
[07:42] <bob2> IIIEars_: I personally think it's fine to (politely) tell someone to RTFM, as long as you point them at actually useful docs
[07:42] <bahblahblahbah> i typed :wq then pressed enter...nothing -.-
[07:42] <bimberi> erm... visudo runs nano on my hoary install
[07:42] <mhz> poningru: I already set the bios to acept USB boot but it does not boot
[07:42] <bahblahblahbah> am i just an idiot who can't even do idiot-proff stuff?
[07:42] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah: hit <esc> first
[07:42] <k4rp0r> bob2:ok but how can i change them???
[07:42] <poningru> mhz: did you use a flash drive?
[07:42] <bob2> bahblahblahbah: does it have a list of commands at the bottom of the screen?
[07:42] <daniels> cartman: right now, it doesn't exist
[07:42] <poningru> or an external floppy?
[07:42] <bahblahblahbah> yes
[07:42] <daniels> cartman: it'll come back after I've fixed some more urgent breakage
[07:42] <bob2> k4rp0r: by passing those flags to bittornado
[07:42] <bahblahblahbah> all beginning with ^
[07:42] <thoreauputic> bahblahblahbah: you aren't in command mode is the problem
[07:43] <bimberi> bahblahblahbah: <ctrl>X
[07:43] <nickrud> bimberi, it will until you do update-alternatives --config editor
[07:43] <bahblahblahbah> oh
[07:43] <bahblahblahbah> -.-
[07:43] <RQ> bahblahblahbah: <esc> :wq
[07:43] <mhz> poningru: no flash drive here, someone broke into my house a week ago and took many stuff with him
[07:43] <cartman> daniels: alright
[07:43] <bahblahblahbah> :X sorry
[07:43] <bahblahblahbah> really sorry
[07:43] <bahblahblahbah> i'm so stupid -.-
[07:43] <IIIEars_> bob2 - RTFM is rude a link is a bit friendlier.
[07:43] <bimberi> nickrud: tks :)
[07:43] <kritty> !wlan
[07:43] <ubotu> kritty: Wish i knew
[07:43] <RQ> bahblahblahbah: there should be no ":wq" in the file
[07:43] <RQ> ;] 
[07:43] <mhz> poningru: I do have 1 USB CD drive and 1 USB CDRW
[07:43] <kritty> !wireless
[07:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:43] <bob2> IIIEars_: I mean RTFM in the sense of "go read wiki.ubuntu.com/Java", for instance
[07:44] <Orborde> If I extract a package using RPM, will Synaptic be able to handle it? In short, can I use RPMs easily on Ubuntu?
[07:44] <IIIEars_> ubotu You are going to be a genius soon.
[07:44] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, IIIEars_
[07:44] <bob2> IIIEars_: would you consider it rude if you asked how to install java, and someone just gave you that url?
[07:44] <bob2> Orborde: nope
[07:44] <vladuz976> bob2: ??
[07:44] <mhz> poningru: but I still cant make it boot from any of those USB drives
[07:44] <thoreauputic> bimberi: he's in vi, not nano
[07:44] <bob2> vladuz976: !!
[07:44] <poningru> hmm yeah you probably wont be able to from the drives
[07:44] <bob2> vladuz976: you're being annoying, if you want someone to look at your list, put it somewhere simple and ask
[07:44] <mhz> poningru: hence my questions about making Ubuntu boot and install from Harddisk
[07:44] <poningru> mhz: yeah ic
[07:45] <poningru> I have no clue about that though
[07:45] <poningru> sorry
[07:45] <mhz> thx
[07:45] <bahblahblahbah> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:45] <bahblahblahbah> SUCESS!!!!!
[07:45] <IIIEars_> (beginning to think i am in deep doo-doo...) - um - a little friendly interest a bit of investigating to make certain the real problem is understood and then a link.
[07:45] <bimberi> thoreauputic: k - just pointing out that in my, basically unmodified, install visudo runs nano
[07:45] <bahblahblahbah> thank you all!!!
[07:45] <mhz> it seems I m forced to learn about netboot :(  I like the idea but not tonite.
[07:46] <bob2> IIIEars_: right, that sounds highly reasonable, thanks
[07:46] <thoreauputic> bimberi: oh - odd
[07:46] <nickrud> IIIEars_, me, I appreciate your efforts to train the bot
[07:46] <vladuz976> bob2: i am frustrated sorry, also i put it in a pastebin here : http://rafb.net/paste/results/AvV6AS93.html
[07:47] <thoreauputic> bimberi: ah - so it does! It used to run vi in warty
[07:47] <IIIEars_> cafuego - Is the genius. ever tried to configure an infobot? - sheesh...
[07:47] <boga> any one know a goo GUI based intrusion detection package for Linux?
[07:47] <highvolt1ge> a goo GUI?
[07:47] <nickrud> no, but I've added a bit here and there to the db
[07:48] <RQ> highvolt1ge: he means "good" :)
[07:48] <bob2> vladuz976: none of those look dangerous
[07:48] <vladuz976> bob2: that is what i thought
[07:48] <kritty> I have a D-ling G520+ that seems to sleep if I don't ping my router.  Anyone know how to fix it?
[07:48] <bob2> you wouldn't want a GUI-based intrusion detection program
[07:48] <bob2> perhaps a GUI configration tool for it
[07:48] <bob2> or a GUI results viewer
[07:48] <nickrud> thoreauputic, although, you would figure ..
[07:48] <vladuz976> bob2: anyother idea?
[07:48] <thoreauputic> nickrud: indeed
[07:49] <IIIEars_> bob2 - giant flashing black and white skull and crossbones with bold text. "You are being hacked at this very moment.
[07:49] <nickrud> it's age catching up with this os, I guess :)
[07:49] <Stramash> i just installed ubuntu yesterday. smbmount - command not found ?? smbclient works and i can see windows shares in network browser
[07:49] <bimberi> :)
[07:50] <bob2> Stramash: smbfs is the package, iirc
[07:50] <bob2> Stramash: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[07:50] <IIIEars_> no? - okay just a thought.. - lol
[07:50] <Discipulus> Any of you ever play God of War?
[07:50] <Stramash> thanks bob2
[07:50] <cartman> Anyone got Linksys WPC54G (Ver.2) wireless pcmcia on Ubuntu?
[07:50] <cartman> got working*
[07:51] <IIIEars_> ach! - wine is difficult. :(
[07:51] <thoreauputic> for any aterm fans out there who want a utf-8 compatible term with similar features: urxvt in the rxvt-unicode package
[07:51] <kritty> I have a D-link G520+ that seems to sleep if I don't ping my router.  Anyone know how to fix it?  I guess I could write a script to run on start-up to do it but I would like to fix it right
[07:53] <RQ> there's a gterm, which even uses gtk2 ;)
[07:53] <thoreauputic> IIIEars_: but gin is worse ;)
[07:54] <thoreauputic> RQ: which package is that from? or do you mean gnome-terminal ?
[07:54] <nekohayo> anyone concerned with audacity's current GUI?
[07:54] <tkiesel> Hi everyone. Got an odd web browser issue here.  Rendering bug. On some pages, text in user-editable fields is invisible, but will show up if I choose to view the page without style (CSS-less, I suppose?)  On Hoary. This affects Gecko-based browsers (Firefox, Epiphany) and Opera as well.
[07:55] <RQ> thoreauputic: yeah
[07:55] <RQ> gnome-terminal, right ;)
[07:55] <RQ> there's also an Xterminal
[07:55] <RQ> from xfce
[07:55] <bob2> tkiesel: that sounds more like the page is screwed
[07:55] <RQ> beautiful thingie :)
[07:55] <nickrud> tkiesel, I remember having that problem, and if i recall correctly, I needed to change the monospace font
[07:55] <thoreauputic> RQ: the reason for using aterm/ urxvt is that it is lighter and pops up faster
[07:55] <tkiesel> Works wonderfully in Firefox on windows, so it's not a standards compliance one, though perhaps it's a Windows FF vs. Linux FF non-standards rendering issue?
[07:56] <RQ> thechitowncubs: Xterminal is fast too ;)
[07:56] <mhz> poningru: what if I had a USB SD card reader?? would it boot from it?
[07:56] <tkiesel> bob2: I've ruled that out pretty thouroghly with cross borwser/ cross-OS checking.
[07:56] <RQ> and it respects your GTK themes
[07:56] <tkiesel> nickrud: I'll give that a shot here. :)  Any suggestion of what to change it to?
[07:56] <bob2> tkiesel: didn't you just say it affects opera and gecko?
[07:56] <RQ> thechitowncubs: btw i doubt Gnome-terminal is slow on a gnome system
[07:57] <RQ> the libs are already loaded anyways
[07:57] <tkiesel> bob2: Opera and Gecko on Hoary, but not Opera, Gecko, IE, Amaya, etc. on Windows.
[07:58] <WMCoolmon> hey
[07:59] <nickrud> tkiesel, I didn't take notes, so it may take me a day or so to remember it
[07:59] <bahblahblahbah> hi
[07:59] <WMCoolmon> anyone know how to get wxwidgets (or qt, i suppose) working with ubuntu?
[07:59] <thoreauputic_> aterm/ urxvt start up instantly on gnome: gnome-terminal takes 3 seconds on  my system
[07:59] <bob2> WMCoolmon: you'll need to be a bit more specific
[07:59] <tkiesel> nickrud: No problem. Gives me somewhere to start. Thanks so much!!
[07:59] <bob2> anything in ubuntu that uses them Depends on them, and they Just Work
[07:59] <nickrud> but I am sure it was a font problem somewhere
[08:00] <WMCoolmon> well, i installed the 2.5.3 library and 2.5.3-dev library
[08:00] <WMCoolmon> but it's giving a lot of undefined errors
[08:00] <bob2> WMCoolmon: what is?
[08:00] <WMCoolmon> i suspect that's because i don't have a setup.h, but haven't found instructions on getting one setup O_o
[08:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bob2, where do i go to wright a how to or a wiki?
[08:00] <bob2> also, note that you can't do silly thing like use a non-default version of g++
[08:00] <WMCoolmon> compiling a simple app
[08:00] <bob2> WMCoolmon: on hoary?
[08:00] <WMCoolmon> yep
[08:00] <bob2> ChurcH_of_FoamY: wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:00] <WMCoolmon> Hoary-AMD64
[08:00] <bob2> WMCoolmon: with the default version of g++?
[08:01] <WMCoolmon> if that's g++-3.3, yeah
[08:02] <IIIEars_> kritty - ping script http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=339395 if [ $(ping -c 4 $HOSTNAME | grep ^rtt | cut -d '/' -f 5 | tr -d '.') -lt 200 ] ; then echo fast; else echo slow; fi
[08:02] <bob2> WMCoolmon: paste the error from g++ to #flood
[08:03] <hacked`> guys, how do i set my root passwd again
[08:03] <bob2> hacked`: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:03] <hacked`> k
[08:03] <bob2> which is linked fro mthe FAQ
[08:03] <hacked`> thanks bob2
[08:03] <bob2> WMCoolmon: you have wx2.5-headers installed?
[08:04] <glick> what does BOFH stand for?
[08:04] <WMCoolmon> bob2: yeah
[08:04] <timl> bastard operator from hell
[08:04] <fabbione> Bastart Operator From Hell
[08:04] <WMCoolmon> the output's sort of long, so i'm gonna upload it
[08:04] <thoreauputic> glick: bastard operator from hell
[08:04] <glick> lol
[08:04] <glick> haha
[08:04] <glick> ok
[08:05] <tiglionabbit> say, is it possible to pre-order Breezy CDs?
[08:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bob2 i want to wright a howto where do i go? the wiki pages don't seem to be the right place
[08:05] <nickrud> glick, that's you, as soon as you run someone else's machine
[08:05] <bob2> ChurcH_of_FoamY: why not?
[08:05] <bob2> tiglionabbit: not yet
[08:05] <IIIEars_> lol - software is like sex it's better if it is free. -
[08:05] <benplaut> tiglionabbit: not yet, but a month or so before the release, yup
[08:05] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you could write one on the forums.  They have a customization tips section
[08:05] <bob2> tiglionabbit: for hoary, orders in the last few weeks before hoary came out where held back
[08:06] <WMCoolmon> bob2: http://fs2source.warpcore.org/out.txt
[08:06] <bob2> please don't use the forums for that
[08:06] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FoamY, the wiki is the right place for a howto
[08:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bob2 um cuase i can't find where to wright it
[08:06] <tiglionabbit> bob2: held back?
[08:06] <Raskall-edge> agh... my new cellphone is unusable as an alarm clock. Woke up 90 minutes after the alarm went off. That was 10 minutes before the last bus I cant take to reach a train before the train stops going for 4 hours.
[08:06] <benplaut> i'll take it :)
[08:06] <RQ> Raskall: :))
[08:06] <coobra> hoi my ubuntu friends :))
[08:06] <benplaut> hi
[08:06] <nickrud> hey
[08:06] <bob2> tiglionabbit: until hoary released, then they shipped hoary ones as soon as they were available
[08:07] <tim_> ive edited my xorg.conf to only display 1280x1024, but it keeps on forcing it to 1280x768. anyone have any ideas on a solution?
[08:07] <bob2> ChurcH_of_FoamY: wiki.ubuntu.com/YourHowtoHere, then choose "create"
[08:07] <bob2> WMCoolmon: http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/2005/03/msg00109.html
[08:07] <Raskall-edge> RQ: luckily I can work from the train (am on the train now), so I can go home at the usual time anyways.
[08:08] <nickrud> bob2, if someone wanted to point out some mods to a current wiki, where would he start?
[08:08] <RQ> hmz
[08:08] <RQ> Raskall: why can't you work at home then? :)
[08:08] <bob2> nickrud: as in modify it themselves?  just login and start editing!
[08:08] <Raskall-edge> RQ: :) because the people at work needs me to be there. I am sysadmin and techie-support.
[08:09] <RQ> oh... :)
[08:09] <nickrud> haha. I believe it getting my stuff reviewed before acceptance
[08:09] <Raskall-edge> RQ: that is support for the techies
[08:11] <nickrud> bob2, but, I guess, it'll get cut if it sucks, so here goes :)
[08:11] <Raskall-edge> btw, how can i set the timeout for bringing up nics during boot? When I am offline it takes forever to boot.
[08:12] <Maranda> This is an absurdly awesome distro.
[08:12] <RQ> hmm
[08:13] <IIIEars_> Raskall-edge - hoping someone has an answer. was wondering the same thing.
[08:13] <stian_> what was the dpkg command to install all dependecyes ?
[08:13] <IIIEars_> Maranda - Welcome! :)
[08:13] <bob2> dhcp will only wait 20 seconds
[08:14] <Raskall-edge> IIIEars_: you can press ctrl-c, but then the lo interface doesn't get up and I need that for ssh-tunneling when connected with my cell
[08:14] <bob2> and it's only that long because some broken dhcp servers take forever
[08:14] <bob2> stian_: that's not what dpkg is for
[08:14] <RQ> IIIEars_, Raskall:  maybe that could go to some wishlist on ubuntu
[08:14] <Maranda> Don't get excited, this is my girlfriend's nick.
[08:14] <thoreauputic> stian_: dpkg? I think you need apt-get
[08:14] <stian_> the distro is stunning good. Installed it yesterday:)
[08:14] <Maranda> I'm male.
[08:14] <nickrud> stian_, apt-get install <package> will get all needed depenencies for <package>
[08:14] <RQ> i suppose it shouldn't be hard to put the that to the background
[08:14] <tiglionabbit> does he mean dpkg -f install ?
[08:15] <stian_> tiglionabbit: oh yes..
[08:15] <Raskall-edge> RQ: it is not a big problem for me, though. I press ctrl-c and does "ifup lo" when booted. but still its annoying
[08:15] <RQ> OTOH, some other scripts probably depend on the state of network
[08:15] <MrGardenHoseMan> hwo do i unrar .rar files?
[08:15] <MrGardenHoseMan> how*
[08:15] <La_PaRCa> !rar
[08:15] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, La_PaRCa
[08:15] <bob2> MrGardenHoseMan: with the "unrar" command
[08:15] <Maranda> Anyway, question. I have an atheros car, and I did iwconfig ath0 essid, and then my ssid.
[08:15] <MrGardenHoseMan> heh
[08:15] <bob2> MrGardenHoseMan: from the unrar package
[08:15] <Maranda> Yet no connection.
[08:15] <Raskall-edge> MrGardenHoseMan: you install unrar and unrar it.
[08:15] <La_PaRCa> I thought rar was defined here
[08:15] <RQ> Raskall: one of the possible and possibly broken solutions is to rename the scripts so that they go last :)
[08:15] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks
[08:15] <bob2> if the file is recent, you may need unrar-nonfree
[08:15] <stian_> install the winrar linux console program if you want to do it on new .rar files.
[08:16] <tiglionabbit> MrGardenHoseMan, you should be able to do it with file-roller, which launches automatically if you double-click on em.  You may need unrar-nonfree for some rars
[08:16] <tiglionabbit> stian_, why not just unrar-nonfree?
[08:16] <Maranda> Can I have help?
[08:17] <Maranda> ATheros card, recognized, i slapped my ssid into it, still no connection.
[08:17] <stian_> tiglionabbit: it doesnt work on the new rar files. I think.
[08:17] <tkiesel> nickrud: Thanks. Issue was with rendering of a certain font on my system it seems. Changed a little CSS to utilize a different font, and pow! It's visible again. Thanks a ton!
[08:17] <bob2> Maranda: your AP has no wep or wpa?  other systems work? does it associate?
[08:17] <thoreauputic> Maranda: patience, Grasshopper
[08:17] <bob2> is it mac-locked?
[08:17] <bob2> did you ask for an ip?
[08:17] <Maranda> No wep, locks, encryption.
[08:18] <Maranda> How do I ask for an IP?
[08:18] <nickrud> tkiesel, np
[08:18] <bob2> Maranda: sudo dhclient ath0
[08:18] <Maranda> Okay.
[08:18] <bob2> Maranda: use 'iwconfig ath0' to see if it's associated or not, first
[08:18] <Maranda> What would it look like if it's associated?
[08:19] <bob2> eth1      IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:"fnord"  Nickname:"ipw2100"
[08:19] <Maranda> Fnord. ovely.
[08:19] <hacked`> guys, how can i know which wireless card i have (and the wireless driver loaded) in ubuntu ?
[08:20] <bob2> you can't, in general
[08:20] <Raskall-edge> RQ: then I get trouble when on a net.
[08:20] <bob2> looking at the output of dmesg is a start
[08:20] <hacked`> i know about dmesg
[08:20] <bob2> and "lspci"
[08:20] <hacked`> but i dont know what to look for
[08:20] <bob2> and then "lsmod"
[08:20] <RQ> Raskall: but then it boots faster ;)
[08:21] <Raskall-edge> RQ: true. but I rather ctrl-c and ifup lo
[08:21] <nickrud> hacked`, try figure out what chipset your wireless uses, then use the comands that bob2 just gave you (generic advice)
[08:22] <Maranda> Hacked: Device manager?
[08:23] <hacked`> k
[08:23] <nickrud> ah, the gui choice :)
[08:23] <WMCoolmon> bo2: getting this now... http://fs2source.warpcore.org/out.txt
[08:23] <Maranda> I just migrated from windows
[08:23] <WMCoolmon> *bob2
[08:23] <Maranda> I flew in. Wings are tired.
[08:23] <nickrud> Maranda, and not bad advice :)
[08:24] <Maranda> Thanks.
[08:24] <Maranda> No DHCPOFFERS recieved!
[08:24] <Maranda> Why?
[08:25] <bob2> Maranda: show us the first line of your iwconfig output
[08:26] <Maranda> IEEE: 802.11 ESSID: "04Z412506093"
[08:27] <coobra> a
[08:27] <coobra> opps
[08:27] <bob2> and the second line?
[08:27] <konki> anyone knows why my OS can't seem to detect my USB cd burner??
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> plug it in/remove/plug it back. and check dmesg output
[08:29] <Maranda> Mode:Managed Frequency:2.417 GHz Access Point: FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF
[08:29] <bob2> that looks wrong
[08:29] <fabbione> yeah
[08:30] <bob2> WMCoolmon: sounds like a missing include
[08:30] <fabbione> it's not binding to the AP
[08:30] <bob2> hm, I guess drivers don't uniformly display "unassociated" when unassociated
[08:31] <Maranda> So what do I do?
[08:31] <Maranda> When I type ifup ath0, it gives me some unknown interface BS
[08:32] <bob2> er
[08:32] <bob2> is it mentioned in /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:32] <bob2> if not, ifup's not expected to do anythign at all
[08:33] <Maranda> Let me check.
[08:34] <shad0w> does anyone know anything about hula here
[08:34] <WMCoolmon> bob2: command line is (gcc helloworld.cpp -I "/usr/lib/wx/include/base-2.4/")
[08:34] <Madpilot> evening everyone
[08:34] <coobra> shad0w:  yeah it rocks :P
[08:34] <jblu> Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone has install F-PROT on G4 Mac ppc ubuntu Hoary?
[08:34] <nickrud> Madpilot, just what timezone are you in, anyway
[08:34] <Maranda> There is a "map ath0" in interfaces, bob.
[08:34] <coobra> shad0w:  Novells
[08:35] <bob2> jblu: you're scanning email for windows users or such?
[08:35] <Madpilot> nickrud: Pacific Daylight. it's 2335 local
[08:35] <fr500> hello
[08:35] <bob2> Maranda: that's the only mention of it?
[08:35] <konki> Dr_Willis, ok! it says waiting for device to settle, HP        Model: CD-Writer+ 8200e  Rev: 0001
[08:35] <fr500> what do you think of enlightment?
[08:35] <nickrud> evening is pushing it, then ;)
[08:35] <jblu> just a general virus scanner is what I want
[08:35] <Madpilot> nickrud: guess so ;)
[08:35] <shad0w> coobra can u help me in pm
[08:35] <Maranda> Yes.
[08:35] <bob2> jblu: you don't need one for your ubuntu machine
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> konki,  it should be mentiunng a sd# for the drive.. or similer.. and ubuntu/gnome is normally good about  seeing/auto mounting things.
[08:36] <coobra> bhha
[08:36] <shad0w> o.o
[08:36] <jblu> why not? :)
[08:36] <Madpilot> Linux can't get viruses, basically
[08:36] <bob2> jblu: because there are about 3 linux viruses
[08:36] <coobra> shad0w:  im on hollyday :P
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> security by design. :P
[08:36] <bob2> jblu: and you won't get them as long as you stay up to date with security fixes, and don't run non-ubuntu software
[08:36] <shad0w> -_-
[08:36] <Maranda> What are they and how do they work?
[08:36] <coobra> shad0w:  a bit not sober
[08:37] <shad0w> lol
[08:37] <nnonix> Anyone have a solution to the known problem of Firestarter blocking google?
[08:37] <jblu> ok , good to know, thanks.  Now how about an easy firewall advice?
[08:37] <nickrud> security cuz we still, fundamentally, are not the targets of script kiddies
[08:37] <fr500> jblu, firestarter=easy
[08:37] <bob2> jblu: you don't need one of those by default, either
[08:37] <thoreauputic> jblu: firestarter
[08:37] <bob2> nickrud: hack into my laptop then
[08:37] <jblu> I'd like to know when I'm portscanned
[08:37] <thoreauputic> jblu: only if you run services
[08:38] <nickrud> lol, not a clue how to start, cuz I never will
[08:38] <Madpilot> firestarter blocks Google? not on my machine, in either FF or Opera...
[08:38] <coobra> i hawe a old sony vaio here :P
[08:38] <thoreauputic> nnonix: if firestarter is blocking google, you have a configuration problem
[08:39] <jblu> BTW ubuntu is pretty cool, and I unintalled OS X Tiger to use it :-)
[08:39] <Maranda> Anyway, bob, "map ath0" is the only mention.
[08:39] <Maranda> In interfaces.
[08:39] <nickrud> bob2, I would need some good scripts, I would think
[08:39] <Maranda> Let
[08:39] <IIIEars_> jblu - gotta love the 16,000+ free apps. - grin
[08:39] <RQ> hahahah :D
[08:39] <RQ> sure
[08:39] <RQ> when they don't crash :D
[08:40] <bob2> nickrud: how could you possibly get in?  all I have publically avilable is ssh, and I bet you can't guess my password.
[08:40] <Maranda> Let's not hack anyone. We're big kids who can use our programming skills for the greater good of mankind, right?
[08:40] <topa> would you ever think of doing a dual-boot machine?
[08:40] <RQ> like cfdisk does for me
[08:40] <bob2> nickrud: also, it will block your ip if you guess wrong more than a few times
[08:40] <nnonix> Madpilot / thoreauputic: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41238
[08:40] <jblu> I wanted my freedom back :)
[08:40] <robotgeek> jblu, same here!
[08:40] <RQ> anyone wanna confirm that? try running cfdisk in breezy
[08:40] <bob2> Maranda: well, it's not associating,m anyway, so assigning ips and whatever won't help
[08:40] <thoreauputic> nnonix: OK looking...
[08:40] <nickrud> bob2, I trust that you do set up your machine safely, far more than mine. Of course, I don't even run ssh externally ...
[08:40] <Maranda> So what do I do?
[08:41] <nnonix> Madpilot: It didn't for me either then today it just started ... with absolutely no config changes on my part. I woke up and google wouldn't load .... it did when I went to bed.
[08:41] <bob2> nickrud: right, and a default ubuntu is basically invulnerable to anythong other than social engineering
[08:41] <Nameeater> breezy is beta, do you really expect everything to run?
[08:41] <Maranda> Ha. I'm so safe that I don't even know what SSH is!
[08:41] <Madpilot> nnonix: interesting reading. Firestarter "just works" for me...
[08:41] <bob2> Maranda: I'm not sure what the problem is
[08:41] <bob2> Maranda: perhaps the driver for your card is buggy
[08:41] <nnonix> thoreauputic: Its the default config with the single exception of allowing inbound SSH which was added months ago.
[08:41] <IIIEars_> lol - SSH - is what a librarian tells a noisy patron?
[08:41] <RQ> Nameeater: i don't. but  I think if it crashes not only for me, it's worth reporting a bug. isn't that what betas are for?
[08:41] <jblu> now if I can figure out how to mount an iso make a disk image and burn a cd. lol
[08:41] <robotgeek> tiger wudn't install without ubuntu getting remove. *Middle* finger to OS X
[08:41] <Maranda> It's madwifi
[08:41] <bob2> Maranda: youre sure other machines can work with the AP fine?
[08:42] <nickrud> bob2, you have permission to scan my machine, if you want the ip, I run basic ubuntu without a firewall. I do agree with you.
[08:42] <Maranda> Yeah, three of them.
[08:42] <RQ> jblu: moun it with -oloop
[08:42] <bob2> jblu: you want to burn some files from your hard disk to a cd?
[08:42] <Nameeater> RQ: ah right, thought your crashing comment followed the "if it doesnt' crash" comment x)
[08:42] <nnonix> Madpilot: I would have said the same ... until today
[08:42] <bob2> nickrud: hah, ok
[08:42] <jblu> yes
[08:42] <RQ> Nameeater: it does ;)
[08:42] <Nameeater> bah! :p
[08:42] <bob2> jblu: just insert a blank cd, then drage files to the window that pops up
[08:42] <RQ> jblu: try k3b or Graveman!
[08:42] <Maranda> SO how do I associate ath0?
[08:42] <bob2> jblu: then select "write to disk" from the file menu, and go make a cup of tea
[08:42] <RQ> or gnomebaker
[08:43] <nickrud> of course, I did have to set my imap server to listen locally
[08:43] <konki> Dr_Willis, are there any drivers availible for linux/ubuntu hardwares?
[08:43] <bob2> Maranda: setting the essid should be enough
[08:43] <jblu> that's it! very cool!
[08:43] <bob2> Maranda: you're sure you're in range and whatever?
[08:43] <Maranda> I did. Strange.
[08:43] <Maranda> ANd yes.
[08:43] <RQ> Nameeater: bah ;D
[08:43] <jblu> but what about a bootable OS CD
[08:43] <konki> Dr_Willis, or a list of supported hardwares...
[08:44] <bob2> jblu: when you download the image of it? right click on it and select "write to cd
[08:44] <jblu> just the iso?
[08:44] <stian_> do I remove any packages when i remove the dvd from sources.list?
[08:44] <jblu> no mounting it to a "disk image"?
[08:44] <bob2> jblu: correct
[08:45] <RQ> stian_: no
[08:45] <stian_> RQ: okey
[08:45] <jblu> thanks:)
[08:45] <RQ> what's installed, is installed
[08:45] <stian_> :)
[08:45] <RQ> don't forget to apt-get update after that
[08:45] <stian_> already done..
[08:45] <RQ> ok ;)
[08:45] <Madpilot> nnonix: sounds like it's a moderately common problem, too
[08:46] <RQ> btw. Ubuntu does automount CD's and floppies, right?
[08:46] <bob2> RQ: cds, yes
[08:46] <nnonix> thoreauputic, so anyway ... I can see in the event log that its blocking the return traffic to my web request on random ports around 3300 .... what's interesting is many other sites return on similar ports and are not blocked. Since it is only google, a configuration problem would have to reference an IP address or a google entry. I have no such configuration.
[08:46] <bob2> floppies, no, since floppy drives don't tell anyone when you plug things in
[08:46] <bob2> (in general)(
[08:46] <Maranda> How does one turn on DCHP?
[08:46] <nnonix> Madpilot, yes ... and at least for now, its only ppl on Ubuntu
[08:46] <RQ> bob2: well, on mac they do, somehow ;)
[08:46] <bob2> RQ: mac floppy drives are special
[08:46] <jblu> we all need to donate if we can.  This is a terrific OS:)
[08:47] <bob2> Maranda: on the AP?
[08:47] <RQ> k...
[08:47] <nnonix> Madpilot,  ... or at least I couldn't find anything about it anywhere but the Ubuntu Forums
[08:47] <Maranda> ....Uh. Sure?
[08:47] <Zero[cool] > ANyone can help me...
[08:47] <Zero[cool] > hey....
[08:47] <thoreauputic> nnonix: sorry I wa just reading the thread - seems like it is Ubuntu specific, but it's a mystery...
[08:47] <Zero[cool] > Linux Users....
[08:47] <RQ> bob2: cuz i'm thinking of installing ubuntu on my mom's future laptop. So it should automount things.
[08:47] <Madpilot> Zero[cool] : best to just ask your questions
[08:47] <RQ> but well.... CD's are enough, probably.
[08:48] <IIIEars_> Nah "Windows users" - "Linux community"
[08:48] <Zero[cool] > ok ok ....
[08:48] <nickrud> Zero[cool] , did we miss the question?
[08:48] <bob2> RQ: there's nothing the kernel can do on intel hardware, unfortunately
[08:48] <RQ> if she can go to "my computer" and floppy is mountable there.
[08:48] <bob2> aside from things like supermount
[08:48] <RQ> then it's just OK.
[08:48] <Zero[cool] > can Ubunto linuix.. automatically Probe your Modem after installation and ready to go for the NET ?
[08:48] <Zero[cool] > can Ubunto linuix.. automatically Probe your Modem after installation and ready to go for the NET ?
[08:48] <nnonix> thoreauputic, yes, it does
[08:48] <bob2> Zero[cool] : sort of, there's a short guide on the wiki that explains it
[08:48] <Zero[cool] > Wow...
[08:48] <nnonix> thoreauputic, and it is
[08:48] <nickrud> Zero[cool] , hard question
[08:48] <Zero[cool] > ok...
[08:49] <Zero[cool] > lolz :)
[08:49] <Zero[cool] > sori... for that kind of Qustion...
[08:49] <thoreauputic> nnonix: I run firestarter here without *any* issues
[08:49] <jblu> What installations of apps do I have to reboot afterward, like on a Mac? Anything?
[08:49] <bob2> jblu: none
[08:49] <Zero[cool] > ammm... another thing...
[08:49] <thoreauputic> jblu: only new kernels
[08:49] <Zero[cool] > can it support dual booting ??
[08:49] <nickrud> Zero[cool] , the best answer we can give, is get an external modem, on a cable, they always work :)
[08:49] <jblu> cool again
[08:50] <bob2> Zero[cool] : sure
[08:50] <RQ> Zero[cool] : sure it does
[08:50] <nnonix> thoreauputic, I did to, until this morning. Was working last night when I went to bed and wasn't this morning when I woke up. I didn't do anything to my machine but browse for several days.
[08:50] <jblu> My third day, and loving it:)
[08:50] <bob2> Zero[cool] : it will set that up for you automatically
[08:50] <RQ> yeah
[08:50] <Zero[cool] > ahhh.... okies...
[08:50] <Zero[cool] > ammm....
[08:50] <nnonix> thoreauputic, so ... your clock is ticking :)
[08:50] <RQ> i have "Microsoft Windows XP" in my boot menu
[08:50] <RQ> everything automatically
[08:50] <thoreauputic> nnonix: hmm... /me checks google
[08:50] <Madpilot> Zero[cool] : even the LiveCD should find your internet connection...
[08:50] <Zero[cool] > can u give me some link/ Site that contains Ubuntu Tutorials From Administration to Reg USer
[08:50] <Zero[cool] > can u give me some link/ Site that contains Ubuntu Tutorials From Administration to Reg USer
[08:50] <rover_dan> hi all. my X is dead after update to breezy. the error message: could not open default font 'fixed'. i had read the FAQ of Xorg,checked some information from the ubuntu forum and then tried to change the lines in xorg.font from:  /usr/Share/X11/fonts/* to :/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/* , but it didn't work. any help?
[08:51] <RQ> Zero[cool] : tried ubuntu.com?
[08:51] <RQ> rover_dan: that's intended
[08:51] <RQ> ;)
[08:51] <bob2> Zero[cool] : you don't need to repeat things like that, or use random capitalisation
[08:51] <nnonix> thoreauputic, I may try un/reinstalling firestarter.
[08:51] <bob2> Zero[cool] : wiki.ubuntu.com has lots of documentation
[08:51] <thoreauputic> nnonix: so far so good - google pops up fine...
[08:51] <coobra> to much shity music on mtv
[08:51] <nnonix> tick tick tick
[08:51] <rover_dan> RQ, what are u meaning?
[08:51] <Zero[cool] > tnx bob...
[08:51] <RQ> rover_dan: X is broken in breezy for now. ;)
[08:51] <coobra> opps wrong
[08:51] <rover_dan> ...
[08:51] <benplaut> eek! a crocadile!
[08:52] <RQ> rover_dan: daniels said he would hopefully fix it by the end of this week
[08:52] <timl> rover_dan: you need a copy of mkfontdir and then a dpkg-reconfigure
[08:52] <timl> I found this worked for me
[08:52] <RQ> so you just have to wait for a few days until it becomes OK. or try the workarounds
[08:52] <nickrud> timl, is the same problem from a month ago?
[08:52] <nnonix> thoreauputic, are you on Breezy yet?
[08:52] <rover_dan> timl, where can i check out the mkfontdir?
[08:52] <nickrud> or more?
[08:52] <timl> nickrud: I'm really not sure
[08:52] <RQ> timl: where fo you get mkfontdir from? ;] 
[08:52] <thoreauputic> nnonix: no, Hoary here
[08:53] <timl> well I grabbed mine off a different system which still had it
[08:53] <RQ> hmm...
[08:53] <nnonix> thoreauputic, me too
[08:53] <timl> I can put up a binary if people are willing to trust it
[08:53] <RQ> timl: yes, please :)
[08:53] <RQ> i'd wget it to my breezy :D
[08:53] <nickrud> timl, that sounds like what I did to fix brezzy a while ago, I cannot beleve it's the same thing still
[08:53] <devnull> where can i find older versions of gcc in deb format ?
[08:54] <timl> www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~timl/ubuntu/mkfontdir
[08:54] <RQ> nickrud: Xorg packages are being reorganized
[08:54] <rover_dan> timl, thx
[08:54] <timl> put that as /usr/bin/mkfontdir
[08:54] <sandyeggoboy> hello, i would like to know if its possible to login to my comuter via VNC or some other way of remotedly administering my computer?
[08:54] <RQ> timl: ok thanks :)
[08:54] <timl> then dpkg-reconfigure the xfonts packages
[08:54] <timl> as I said, this worked for me a few days ago, let me know how it goes
[08:54] <bob2> sandyeggoboy: of course
[08:54] <thoreauputic> sandyeggoboy: sure, use ssh
[08:55] <IIIEars_> sandyeggboy - vnc is good tightvnc is even nicer
[08:55] <StabFace> can someon help me when I use the make command on a specific tar i get this error "cc -c -wall -Ilrmi - 0.8 -o 845patch.o 845patch.c ; make: cc: Command not found ; make: *** [845patch.o]  error 127
[08:55] <sandyeggoboy> ....and i would like to be abble to use a GUI, not text based
[08:55] <mantass> timl: thanks
[08:55] <StabFace> I'm new to unix
[08:55] <timl> np
[08:55] <sandyeggoboy> can i use GNOME from remote?
[08:55] <jblu> media players for ppc?  Xine or VLC or both?  Mplayer looks "shaky" on ppc
[08:55] <nickrud> RQ, I understand that, but, the font problem has been around so long, and I just dsl and was wondering about trying breezy, heard about the X problems, and is that all?
[08:55] <timl> PM if something goes wrong, I'm not really watching this channel
[08:55] <nickrud> s/just/just got back/
[08:56] <RQ> nickrud: wait for the next week :)
[08:56] <thoreauputic> jblu: I've had good luck with xine - only issue on ppc is the lack of w32codecs
[08:56] <RQ> X keeps crashing for me, even with timl's mkfontdir ;)
[08:56] <jblu> k thanks again
[08:56] <RQ> and i don't even get my keyboard back :)
[08:56] <RQ> damn
[08:56] <timl> RQ: you you reconfigure it all?
[08:56] <nickrud> RQ, I'll probably wait till mid august to rally try, but, I like some fun, and xkb problems?
[08:56] <RQ> nope.
[08:56] <timl> you need to do that
[08:56] <RQ> rebooting. I'll reconfig it then/
[08:57] <RQ> xserver-xorg, right?
[08:57] <thoreauputic> jblu: you might find some stuff works better in vlc - I use both depending which works better
[08:57] <timl> RQ: and also xfonts-base I think
[08:57] <jblu> ok good to know
[08:57] <RQ> oh
[08:58] <RQ> no questions
[08:58] <StabFace> can someon help me when I use the make command on a specific tar i get this error "cc -c -wall -Ilrmi - 0.8 -o 845patch.o 845patch.c ; make: cc: Command not found ; make: *** [845patch.o]  error 127
[08:58] <timl> the problem is that during the configure scripts, if mkfontsdir isn't installed, the fonts don't get properly installed
[08:58] <timl> so then xorg freaks out when it can't find them
[08:58] <timl> so by putting mkfontdir on your system, it lets you configure the fonts packages and then xorg should be happy again
[08:58] <RQ> wow
[08:58] <RQ> it runs
[08:58] <RQ>  ;))
[08:58] <RQ> k. thanks ;)))
[08:58] <timl> rock and roll
[08:59] <RQ> bah
[08:59] <MrGardenHoseMan> anyone got a serial for linux vmware 5
[08:59] <RQ> but i cannot ctrl+alt+f1 now :D
[08:59] <RQ> damn
[08:59] <MrGardenHoseMan> or is this kind of talk forbiden here
[08:59] <bob2> StabFace: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[08:59] <nickrud> StabFace, try sudo apt-get install build-essential I think
[08:59] <bob2> MrGardenHoseMan: you get one warning
[08:59] <MrGardenHoseMan> noted
[08:59] <Maranda> Stealing a linux distro? Shame on you!
[08:59] <IIIEars_> heh
[08:59] <MrGardenHoseMan> haha
[09:00] <Maranda> I can understand non open source software, like movies and games, but programmers need food.
[09:00] <RQ> :)
[09:00] <thoreauputic> Maranda: vmware is not open source
[09:00] <jatos> hi
[09:00] <RQ> ooooh
[09:01] <RQ> error activating xkb configuration ;)
[09:01] <jatos> #kubuntu isn't very active...
[09:01] <timl> RQ: is that when gnome starts up?
[09:01] <jblu> one last?  so instead of reboot, just refreshh GNOME =killall gnome-panel
[09:02] <RQ> timl yes :)
[09:02] <Maranda> Now this is wierd.
[09:02] <RQ> rebooting again. :) gdm should now start automatically :)
[09:02] <Maranda> When I set my card to promiscuous, the data says it has a link.
[09:02] <Maranda> Nowhere do i see an actual connection.
[09:03] <bob2> that's on a different layer
[09:03] <bob2> having a link doesn't mean you even have an ip address
[09:03] <bob2> much less network connectivity
[09:03] <Maranda> It says link quality is 42/90
[09:04] <RQ> timl: i get an empty message at first
[09:04] <Maranda> *45/94
[09:04] <RQ> then four dialogs about xkb :D
[09:05] <Maranda> When I try iwspy, it says interface don't support no lil'ol wireless statistic collection.
[09:05] <bina> Hi all, I installed webmin last night and it copied the root password from the passwords file on my computer, however seeing as the root account was disabled I dont think it has one and if it does I have no idea what it is :) there any way I can add a new user / change the password without logging to webmin?
[09:05] <bina> add a new user / change the password for webmin that is
[09:05] <bob2> bina: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:05] <bob2> gah, letting webmin authenticate against /etc/passwd is a terrible idea
[09:06] <rover_dan> timl,   the same error messages.after a quict dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, my X crashed again
[09:06] <RQ> rover_dan: dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-base
[09:06] <nickrud> bina, you need to create a root password to be able to use webmin
[09:06] <timl> rover_dan: did you dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-base?
[09:06] <bina> bob2: wasnt my choice (well, not as far as I'm aware)
[09:06] <Maranda> Piracy: Backing up other people's data. Without permission.
[09:06] <RQ> nickrud: that's stupid kinda
[09:06] <RQ> enabling root user just to install a package
[09:07] <bina> nickrud: then  reinstall webmin? it copied the password data I think, I dont think its still using the /etc/passwd file
[09:07] <Madpilot> Maranda: no, this is my data. I own all 200+ of those CDs... regardless of what the RIAA & others think...
[09:07] <nickrud> RQ not to install, but to use; cups, webmin, they do not recognize sudo
[09:07] <rover_dan> ooops, my stupid
[09:07] <RQ> bina: try changing the webmin root password to an empty one
[09:07] <bob2> bina: ah, sorry, I misinterpreted you
[09:07] <RQ> nickrud: webmin doesn't care about system users, imho
[09:07] <Maranda> Alright, I need sleep. I hope you enjoyed my company.
[09:07] <bina> bob2:) worry not :)
[09:07] <RQ> all it does is INITIALLY uses the root pass to create webmin root
[09:08] <PPC_Guy> hey all question: How do I add Java support to Firefox?
[09:08] <bina> RQ: you know where its stored?
[09:08] <Madpilot> !java
[09:08] <ubotu> well, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[09:08] <RQ> bina: /etc/webmin/
[09:08] <Madpilot> PPC_Guy: see ubotu's post
[09:08] <bina> RQ: thanks
[09:08] <PPC_Guy> already added multiverse thans..
[09:08] <Maranda> Before I do, a question: What are linux viruses and how do they work?
[09:08] <nickrud> RQ, if there's an option in webmin configuration to allow specific users to have admin privs, good. Otherwise, you must be root (with a password) to use the interface
[09:08] <bob2> PPC_Guy: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[09:09] <thoreauputic> Maranda: they don't work, really :)
[09:09] <bob2> Maranda: I've only ever heard of one, which used to try to exploit old broken versions of a print server on redhat
[09:09] <RQ> bina: /etc/webmin/miniserv.users
[09:09] <RQ> to be exact
[09:09] <Sir-Tez> is there an easy way to install mplayer?
[09:09] <Sonderblade> how do you find out what videocard, mobo and stuff like that is on your computer in ubuntu?
[09:09] <bina> RQ: thanks again :)
[09:09] <RQ> then you restart webmin (/etc/init.d/webmin restart)
[09:09] <The_Vox> Maranda: there's 4 basic viruses for linux, with about 20 variations of each...and none has been seen in the wild, ever.
[09:09] <bob2> if you're keeping up to date with security fixes and not running weird things from strangers, I'd feel very safe
[09:09] <RQ> then it will probably work
[09:09] <Sir-Tez> Sonderblade, try lspci
[09:10] <bob2> Sir-Tez: sure, it's in multiverse
[09:10] <The_Vox> Maranda: worms and exploits are a different matter...but viruses practically don't exist in linux, due to the security model.
[09:10] <bob2> Sir-Tez: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:10] <rover_dan> RQtiml, thanks a lot. X now works for me again.
[09:10] <thoreauputic> Sir-Tez: mplayer is in the multiverse repo, IIRC
[09:10] <Maranda> How do they work? And Sonderblade, system > preferences > device manager
[09:10] <RQ>  ;)
[09:10] <bina> RQ: love it, its blocked 127.0.0.1 for too many authentication faliures :)
[09:10] <Maranda> Worms? Explain...
[09:10] <The_Vox> Sonderblade: lspci will tell you about your mboard and vidcard and whatever other cards..."cat /proc/cpuinfo" will tell you about your processor
[09:11] <edgardo> Hola Buenas noches
[09:11] <RQ> bina: restart it
[09:11] <RQ> just like i said
[09:11] <The_Vox> Maranda: programs that try to exploit known security holes from outside. If you keep your box up-to-date with the security updates, there's not much to worry about
[09:11] <Maranda> Okay.
[09:11] <Sonderblade> Maranda, thanks
[09:11] <RQ> bina: btw i think you can paste YOUR password from /etc/shadow there.
[09:11] <RQ> so it won't be empty
[09:12] <Maranda> One more question: I am using the ubuntu livedvd. Any way at all that I can save extra data to it?
[09:12] <bina> RQ: ph yeah didnt see it :)  K, lets see
[09:12] <edgardo> bye, Good luck
[09:13] <RQ> let's see
[09:13] <bob2> Maranda: no
[09:13] <ubuntu> bjr
[09:13] <bob2> Maranda: you can save data to a usb drive or hard disk, tho
[09:13] <RQ> it should probably go to wiki, if successful
[09:13] <Maranda> ....Where can I save it, and how can I read my windows partition?
[09:13] <bob2> insert usb drive
[09:13] <RQ> Maranda: no
[09:13] <bob2> enjoy!
[09:13] <ubuntu> hello
[09:13] <RQ> CD's are read only
[09:14] <RQ> ;D
[09:14] <ubuntu> kokou tt le monde
[09:14] <Maranda> I have a DVD
[09:14] <RQ> bonjour ubuntu
[09:14] <ubuntu> bjr
[09:14] <ubuntu> sa va
[09:14] <Sponge_> Question: Is anybody using tilp? --- I'm trying to send some 9xk files to my calc, but nothing happens (link is working)
[09:14] <RQ> ubuntu: fridays rock ;)
[09:15] <ubuntu> yes
[09:15] <ubuntu> t'es d'o?
[09:15] <Maranda> Well. Night, thanks everyone.
[09:15] <bina> RQ: works only if I put my username in too, but then it says that I dont have access to any modules.
[09:15] <RQ> bina: hmm...
[09:15] <bina> i think ill activate root quickly then reinstall
[09:15] <RQ> so if you just paste your password instead of the root's one, it doesn't?
[09:15] <RQ> bina: nah...
[09:16] <RQ> hmm...
[09:16] <bina> no, it prob uses the name as some kind of salt
[09:16] <Sonderblade> lspci says i have "VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device" is there a way to figure out exactly which graphics card it is?
[09:16] <ubuntu> ok
[09:16] <bob2> Sonderblade: you don't know what card you bought?
[09:16] <RQ> bina: it shouldn't ;)
[09:16] <nickrud> bina, just try creating a root password (sudo passwd root) then logging into webmin, using root, and root's password
[09:16] <ubuntu> just i want to say
[09:16] <bina> RQ: oh i found a file yesterday actually with a load of modules in it
[09:16] <ubuntu> that i dont
[09:16] <Sonderblade> bob2, it is not my computer
[09:16] <ubuntu> know how work this mirc
[09:17] <bob2> ubuntu: might be nice to change your nick
[09:17] <RQ> nickrud: that won't work.
[09:17] <ubuntu> thats my firt one
[09:17] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: you seem to be using xchat, not mirc :)
[09:17] <RQ> ubuntu: what is that you don't know?
[09:17] <nickrud> RQ, it's worked for every other web admin interface, I don't see why webmin would be different
[09:17] <ubuntu> ok that this
[09:18] <RQ> nickrud: webmin stores its passwords in it's own file
[09:18] <RQ> it has its own users
[09:18] <ubuntu> to select the connected poeple
[09:18] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: what's the problem/
[09:18] <RQ> you don't even have to have root in webmin
[09:18] <Sponge_> does anybody knows how to transfer flash appz with tilp???
[09:18] <ubuntu> by some criters
[09:18] <RQ> ubuntu: what do you mean?
[09:18] <RQ> bina: wait
[09:18] <nickrud> RQ, I agreed earlier,
[09:18] <RQ> i'll try running webmin myself ;))
[09:18] <The_Vox> RQ: you actually do need root to do the first login and setup of webmin...then you can disable root after giving your user admin privs.
[09:18] <RQ> The_Vox: exactly.
[09:19] <ubuntu> they are some people cnnected now
[09:19] <RQ> The_Vox: but you only need it because of the default settings
[09:19] <ubuntu> ok
[09:19] <ubuntu> ok
[09:19] <ubuntu> but ubunto is my name
[09:19] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: do you want information about connecterd users? Try /whois <nickname>
[09:19] <RQ> The_Vox:  you can change them anyways. so it would be nice for ubuntu to change them by default to something.
[09:19] <thoreauputic> *connected
[09:20] <bob2> ubuntu: I doubt that very much, but if, change your nick to that
[09:20] <The_Vox> RQ: that'd be nice, indeed. I have no use for webmin, tho, so I don't really care lol! but it would have saved me 20 minutes when I had to help a friend set it up in her ubuntu box :)
[09:20] <bina> RQ: webmin.acl has a file with root and a load of modules in it
[09:20] <ubuntu> thank you i will quickly nearly
[09:21] <ubuntu> thank u
[09:21] <ubuntu> bye
[09:21] <RQ> bina: you can change "root" to your username tnen ;)
[09:21] <thoreauputic> bob2: did you actually understand what ubuntu was on about? I didn't...
[09:21] <bina> Rq: just trying.  thats the first time ive ever used grep to find something useful :)
[09:21] <bob2> thoreauputic: no
[09:21] <thoreauputic> heh
[09:22] <bina> RQ: Success!!!!!  thanks for your help
[09:22] <RQ> np ;) and no need for a root pass, right? ;)
[09:22] <bob2> RQ: wiki it!
[09:22] <RQ> bob2: yeah, wait :)
[09:22] <bina> RQ: nope not in the end
[09:23] <RQ> bina: i'm apt-getting webmin now
[09:23] <RQ> so if you can wait a few minutes, i'll check it out ;)
[09:23] <bina> RQ: hehe ok :)
[09:24] <bina> lol
[09:24] <RQ> nickrud:  :DDD
[09:25] <StabFace> where do I go to register?
[09:25] <bina> there any way you can install all of the webmin modules without having to do them one by one?
[09:25] <hondje> can someone say my name please
[09:25] <thoreauputic> StabFace: just type /msg nickserv help
[09:25] <bina> hondje
[09:25] <thoreauputic> hondje:
[09:25] <hondje> sweet, thanks guy
[09:25] <RQ> bina:
[09:25] <RQ> my first way works, actually :)
[09:26] <bina> RQ: :)
[09:26] <RQ> bina: try using wildcards with apt-get install :)
[09:26] <RQ> (or synaptic)
[09:26] <RQ> bina
[09:26] <bina> RQ: prob just my computer being evil to me. Umkay, thanks again :)
[09:26] <RQ> edit /etc/webmin/miniserv.users
[09:26] <bob2> StabFace: please don't /msg people
[09:26] <RQ> or even better
[09:26] <RQ> bina: apt-get remove --purge webmin
[09:26] <RQ> ;)
[09:26] <StabFace> ...sorry
[09:26] <RQ> and apt-get install webmin
[09:27] <bob2> StabFace: if you have specific questions, ask them here
[09:27] <RQ> then just edit /etc/webmin/miniserv.users
[09:27] <RQ> paste your password from /etc/shadow
[09:27] <bob2> also, presumably you're not using SuSe
[09:27] <RQ> and /etc/init.d/webmin restart
[09:27] <StabFace> i just figured cause you helped me before....
[09:27] <RQ> bob2: what's the link for the wiki?
[09:27] <StabFace> no but that's the only place I found a walkthrough of what I need to do
[09:27] <bob2> StabFace: is your question "How do I install Ubuntu on a a Dell 1100?"?
[09:27] <marlijs> Is anyone here using KINO - video editing soft?
[09:27] <bob2> RQ: wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:27] <thoreauputic> StabFace: the usual netiquette is to ask before /msg ing someone
[09:28] <RQ> k.
[09:28] <bob2> marlijs: best to just ask your question...
[09:28] <StabFace> sorry, I'm having the silly resolution issue with x11
[09:28] <PPC_Guy> crap.. d'l'ed the package from sun 1.4.1 but get an error when trying to convert the file...
[09:28] <StabFace> and I know verry little unix
[09:28] <marlijs> I cant import or open any video file in kino, i dont know - do i need any plugin?
[09:28] <RQ> bob2: and in which section am i supposed to create a page?
[09:28] <StabFace> and I'm trying to update my vid card
[09:28] <StabFace> on the laptop
[09:28] <bob2> RQ: just go to a new url
[09:29] <bob2> RQ: e.g. wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount
[09:29] <RQ> ok...
[09:30] <thoreauputic> StabFace: have you tried running  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?
[09:30] <StabFace> yeah I have done that
[09:30] <thoreauputic> k
[09:30] <RQ> thinking of a good url now :D
[09:31] <StabFace> and when I set it up correctly I am rejected from 16 or 24 bits when I force it too by eliminating all other options
[09:31] <StabFace> and I'm reading two different fixes Fedora and Suse that both parrallel
[09:31] <RQ> hmmm... bob2: am i required to create a use?
[09:31] <RQ> user
[09:31] <StabFace> with the same problem on x11
[09:32] <bob2> RQ: I think so
[09:32] <StabFace> http://www.velofahren.de/e_dell-inspiron-1100.html , http://www.buoy.com/pipermail/lilug/2004-June.txt
[09:32] <RQ> darn. i hate that.
[09:32] <StabFace> and I am trying to use my really limited knowledge to fix it because I really want to start using linux... just not at 640x480 and with a 2 inch buffer around my screen...
[09:33] <thoreauputic> !resolution
[09:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:33] <StabFace> ....been there....done it
[09:33] <thoreauputic> StabFace: ubotu's URL might help ?
[09:33] <thoreauputic> ah
[09:33] <StabFace> pulled my hair out trying heh
[09:33] <StabFace> when I correct the horizSync and VertRefresh it doesn't do anything
[09:34] <StabFace> it just kicks my refresh rate up to 75 and smiles at me
[09:34] <bob2> go dell
[09:34] <StabFace> for real
[09:34] <RQ> bina: any luck?
[09:35] <oggah> will there be necessary to install drivers for my 3DFX Voodoo3 16mbyte video card, im not gonna play any games. But will the GUI in window manager render faster?
[09:35] <oggah> Run smoother?
[09:35] <bob2> no
[09:35] <nickrud> oggah, no, the voodoo3 is recognized just fine
[09:35] <oggah> Ok.
[09:35] <nickrud> used one for years
[09:35] <marlijs> :(
[09:36] <oggah> nickrud, sweet.
[09:36] <bubble> I can't get sftp/scp to work in nautilus
[09:36] <bubble> any suggestions?
[09:36] <StabFace> so will either one of you veterans like to take me under your wing.... :-(
[09:36] <bob2> have you asked on the list yet?
[09:36] <hondje> hrm
[09:36] <blake> i have a quick question
[09:36] <StabFace> I know not of this list....
[09:36] <StabFace> stupid noobs...
[09:36] <hondje> when I drag files to the trash can applet on the panel, and then click it, nothing shows until I ctrl-R nautilus
[09:36] <thoreauputic> StabFace: ubuntu-users
[09:37] <blake> can i use fat 32 with lunix like ext3
[09:37] <blake> i have ubuntu
[09:37] <shad0w> lol fat32 sucks
[09:37] <shad0w> NTFS > *
[09:37] <bob2> StabFace: http://lists.ubuntu.com/
[09:37] <Madpilot> " In security, your "customer" - and I'm saying that tongue-in-cheek - is really the hacker."
[09:38] <Madpilot> interesting interview on tom's hardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050721_103611.html
[09:38] <StabFace> thank you guys for putting up with me
[09:38] <blake> but i want windows for some users that arent so good with computers
[09:38] <Madpilot> doesn't affect linux, but it's still interesting
[09:38] <blake> if i can
[09:38] <nickrud> blake, then maybe you want a D: drive that's fat32, for transferring between linux and windows
[09:39] <blake> i have 2 hardrives
[09:39] <hondje> ewww, that's an ugly site Maddy
[09:39] <hondje> er, Madpilot
[09:39] <blake> that's what i mean
[09:39] <radiodog> my geforce fx5500 is okay (X loads in in 1280x1024) running the nv driver, but the nv driver isnt nearly as good as the nvidia driver. when using the nvidia driver, i can get 1024x768, but 1280x1024 is really messed up. ideas?
[09:39] <bubble> When I try to connect to my remote server, the process hangs for about 30 seconds and then returns with the error "sftp:// has no default action" or something similar
[09:39] <Madpilot> hondje: yeah, THG is a mess, but they have good articles & hardware reviews...
[09:39] <Madpilot> pity about the volume of advertising they display...
[09:40] <StabFace> why would it say CP: ommiting directory when trying to copy?
[09:40] <domster> because you're not copying the directory structure
[09:40] <radiodog> StabFace, you want a -r in there to copy recursivly (read: copy directories)
[09:40] <StabFace> recursive?
[09:40] <domster> try --help, and you'll see a recursive option
[09:40] <blake> and while i'm in here someone tell me it's not just me and downloading java and runing limewire is really really hard for a newbie
[09:40] <StabFace> gotcha
[09:40] <xliu> what is knoppix
[09:40] <StabFace> damn I'm stupid
[09:40] <blake> is it just me
[09:40] <thoreauputic> bob2: I made the mailing list a factoid for ubotu under  !mail, in case you don't already have it aliased ( guessing you do ;)
[09:40] <oggah> what cool things can we expect in breezy?
[09:41] <domster> blake - no
[09:41] <nickrud> blake, try gtk-gnutella, instead of limewire
[09:41] <bob2> thoreauputic: ah, cool, thanks
[09:41] <r2d4> I am trying to start webmin in Ubuntu. Nothing seems to happen.
[09:41] <bob2> blake: yeah, it's a pain because it's java
[09:41] <domster> blake - try installing java for AMD64!
[09:41] <domster> gahh!
[09:41] <blake> nick you gonne be on long
[09:41] <bina> xliu: knoppix is a live distro (I.E you boot it off the CD-ROM rather than your HDD) that uses KDE.  Useful for when you dont want to change your hard disk
[09:41] <r2d4> anything I should do other than /etc/init.d/webmin start
[09:41] <nickrud> blake, a bit more it's pretty late
[09:41] <blake> can i apt get that
[09:41] <bob2> wish people would start using pygtk or gtk# for cross-platform stuff
[09:42] <nickrud> blake, yes
[09:42] <blake> sweet
[09:42] <bob2> r2d4: is your problem that it doesn't start or that you can't login?
[09:42] <r2d4> doesn't start
[09:42] <bubble> does no one know why ssh file access won't work in nautilus?
[09:42] <r2d4> no error messages.
[09:42] <blake> i am so happy i ben haveing to transfer files through aries form my laptop to my desk top (ubuntu)
[09:42] <bob2> bubble: ssh file access? you mean sftp?
[09:43] <bob2> r2d4: how do you know it didn't start?
[09:43] <blake> cause i couldn't get limewire to work
[09:43] <blake> :P
[09:43] <xliu> thanks, bina
[09:43] <blake> poo on limewire
[09:43] <bubble> bob2: basically
[09:43] <thoreauputic> bubble: type ssh:// in the location field and it should work...
[09:43] <bob2> bubble: sftp://user@host/
[09:43] <r2d4> bob2: can't access on port 10000 on local or remote machine. Doesn't show up on netstat.
[09:43] <bubble> thoreaputic: I know it _should_. Here. I'll do it again and transcribe the error message.
[09:43] <bob2> ah
[09:44] <nickrud> blake, so, you've been able to get gtk-gnutella ok?
[09:44] <blake> nick do i need to put the whole gtk
[09:44] <blake> or just gnutella
[09:44] <blake> will do
[09:44] <nickrud> blake, in a terminal, try sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[09:45] <blake> ok that's what i was asking
[09:45] <blake> i'll do it now
[09:45] <blake> brb
[09:45] <nickrud> blake, yeah, I figured; I'm trying to get this done so I can go to bed, it's my last
[09:46] <RQ> bob2: how do I add a <samp> thingie to wiki?
[09:46] <RQ> i mean the monospaced block
[09:47] <thoreauputic> bubble: FWIW, ssh://hostname  works fine here... (I know that doesn't help you)
[09:47] <bubble> The error I get (when trying to connect to an ssh/sftp server through nautilus) is "nautilus cannot display "ssh://user@host.tld/" please select another viewer and try again"
[09:48] <r2d4> bob2: any other ways I should check?
[09:48] <radiodog> why would the nvidia driver barf at 1280x1024 and not 1024x768?
[09:48] <RQ> bubble:
[09:48] <bubble> I've reinstalled packages and the entire os multiple times
[09:48] <RQ> hm
[09:48] <blake> damn
[09:48] <blake> thanks nick
[09:48] <xliu> how to quit x-window
[09:48] <nickrud> blake, works ok?
[09:49] <blake> now i gotta figure out how to use it hahaha
[09:49] <blake> i guess
[09:49] <thoreauputic> bubble: sounds obvious, but do you have openssh server installed on the target server?
[09:49] <bubble> and just to be clear, ssh works fine to the server on the command line
[09:49] <radiodog> xliu: ctrl-alt-bksp
[09:49] <blake> there are bars moveing and stuff
[09:49] <thoreauputic> bubble: OK
[09:49] <xliu> thanks radiodog
[09:49] <blake> so i guess that means it's online
[09:49] <nickrud> blake,  then you
[09:49] <rommer> how do i login to a mysql server as root?
[09:49] <nickrud> 're good to go
[09:49] <blake> i'll go find a web site and read up on it to
[09:49] <blake> tho
[09:50] <Kungas> i tried to install ubuntu on my laptop but it hangs right after login. kubuntu however worked fine though there were some display problems.
[09:50] <bubble> thoreaputic: Well, the server is out of my control. It's running openbsd, if I remember correctly, but I can connect to it fine on my windows machine using winscp.
[09:50] <blake> is it a big community
[09:50] <bob2> RQ: I don't know, maybe [[[fpp] ] ] 
[09:51] <RQ> no
[09:51] <RQ> curly braces
[09:51] <RQ> thanks anyways :)
[09:51] <thoreauputic> bubble: well, i agree that if cli ssh works it's hard to see what nautilus's problem would be
[09:51] <hondje> yeah, beats me
[09:51] <Madpilot> if I have two optical drives - one CD & one CD/DVD/burner - how can I tell which is hda & which is hdb?
[09:51] <hondje> anything from running nautilus from a terminal, maybe in verbose mode?
[09:52] <bubble> I've been working on this all summer. Gave up for a little while, but my desktop (windows) machine is having problems again, so I thought I'd give it again.
[09:52] <radiodog> Madpilot: well... what're the jumper settings?
[09:52] <bubble> *give it a try again
[09:52] <bubble> I haven't tried from a terminal. One sec.
[09:52] <hondje> bubble: have anyone else try to connect with nautilus?
[09:52] <Madpilot> radiodog: I can't remember which is master & which slave, and being lazy I'd rather not take the side off the case again...
[09:52] <bubble> hondje: to this server, you mean?
[09:53] <radiodog> Madpilot: try `cdrdao scanbus`, i think that'll tell you
[09:53] <hondje> bubble: yeah, to see if it's on your end or their end
[09:53] <radiodog> Madpilot: errrr... nevermind.
[09:53] <hondje> I'd imagine it's something odd about your install, but dunno what...just throwing stuff out there
[09:54] <bubble> how do you run nautilus in verbose mode? The manpage doesn't say anything about it.
[09:54] <Madpilot> radiodog: cdrdao scanbus did ID both drives correctly, but no info about hda & hdb
[09:54] <radiodog> oh, okay. umm.
[09:54] <bubble> I am trying it from a terminal though, just in case it outputs anything.
[09:55] <bubble> nope. same error
[09:55] <radiodog> Madpilot: do a `dmesg |grep hda` and a `dmesg |grep hda`
[09:55] <radiodog> er, second hda should read hdb
[09:56] <Madpilot> radiodog: no response from either command...
[09:56] <radiodog> really?
[09:56] <radiodog> does dmesg itself do anything?
[09:56] <Madpilot> dmesg itself spits out a huge chunk of stuff
[09:57] <radiodog> hmm.
[09:57] <radiodog> what does dmesg|grep hda do?
[09:57] <bubble> I just tried running nautilus as root (sudo) thinking I had read that somewhere before, to no avail.
[09:57] <radiodog> or, some other drive. a harddrive, maybe
[09:58] <Madpilot> radiodog: dmesg|grep hda & ...hdb do nothing. my only HDD is SATA, just a sec
[09:58] <mgcross> hjere's a new firefox bug since the latest apt-update...opening History crashes my broswer...anyone else have this prob?
[09:58] <Madpilot> radiodog: dmesg|grep sda does nothing either
[09:58] <hondje> mgcross: yes
[09:58] <hondje> I just tried it, crashed
[09:58] <radiodog> Madpilot: weird! hmm.
[09:59] <hondje> segfaults
[09:59] <mgcross> hondje: shite..was about to ask if youy had a fix...lol
[09:59] <hondje> no, but at least it dumps a core
[09:59] <hondje> can submit a bug
[09:59] <Madpilot> radiodog: all three drives work, at least...
[10:00] <mgcross> hondje: hmm, where do I find the core dump...I'll submit as well...
[10:00] <hondje> mgcross: in a terminal, type 'ulimit -c unlimited', then run firefox from the terminal
[10:00] <hondje> when you crash it, it'll dump the core in your home dir
[10:00] <mgcross> I'd tried running it with terminal...no info there...
[10:01] <mgcross> hondje: k, thanks..learning more each day :-)
[10:01] <radiodog> Madpilot: do you know the model of each drive?
[10:01] <bubble> guess noone's got any more ideas?
[10:01] <hondje> mgcross: do you want to submit it, or do you want me to, and you can upload your coredump to the same bug to confirm it
[10:01] <mgcross> hondje: I'll confirm....newbie here...relativley...
[10:01] <hondje> okay
[10:02] <Madpilot> radiodog: yeah, the old one is a Liteon CD-ROM and the new CD/DVD/burner is a Pioneer 109, almost brand new
[10:02] <mgcross> hondje: where do I submit...lol
[10:02] <Madpilot> radiodog: I'm just trying to track down DMA config on both of them
[10:02] <radiodog> Madpilot: okay, `cd /proc/ide'
[10:02] <radiodog> then cd into hda or hdb
[10:03] <radiodog> `cat model`
[10:03] <hondje> mgcross: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[10:03] <radiodog> oh, cant you just hdparm /dev/hda?
[10:04] <mgcross> hondje: gottcha...dumped...let me know when submited
[10:04] <radiodog> Madpilot: that work?
[10:04] <Madpilot> radiodog: excellent, cat model in hda tells me that it's the DVD. thanks!
[10:04] <radiodog> Madpilot: sure thing.
[10:05] <Madpilot> and another two commands gets DMA running properly...
[10:05] <benny> yo any of you play Americas  Army?
[10:06] <zerboxx> If I ran "killall esd" how can I "unkill" esd? should I just ctrl-alt-backspace?
[10:06] <Madpilot> zerboxx: "esd"
[10:07] <Madpilot> then you should hear something from your speakers
[10:07] <zerboxx> Madpilot: Thanks, I thought so, but I ran it from "run command" instead of terminal
[10:08] <RQ> bob2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount
[10:08] <Madpilot> does "esd" work from a run command?
[10:08] <hondje> mgcross: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12871
[10:08] <bob2> RQ: awesome, thanks
[10:08] <RQ> here. mehates wiki formatting
[10:08] <bob2> Madpilot: yes
[10:08] <RQ> bob2: np :)
[10:08] <zerboxx> Madpilot: Yeah, I first ran it from terminal, but I didn't want a terminal just sitting there, so now I ran it through "run command" and it's perfect
[10:08] <Madpilot> I've always just used terminal - useful trick, tho
[10:09] <teced> Managed to install beagle from the repository. Menu item created ("best"), but nothing happens when this is launched! Any ideas?
[10:09] <RQ> !webmin
[10:09] <ubotu> To use webmin with ubuntu you have to add a webmin-root account with : /usr/share/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root "password"
[10:09] <RQ> oh
[10:09] <mgcross> hondje: k...thanks
[10:09] <Madpilot> RQ: add the URL to your wikipage to that
[10:09] <hondje> mgcross: thanks for finding it :)
[10:09] <RQ> bob2: bahhh
[10:10] <RQ> !def webmin or read the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount
[10:10] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, RQ
[10:10] <RQ> Madpilot: you add it
[10:10] <bob2> ubotu: webmin is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount
[10:10] <ubotu> bob2: okay
[10:10] <RQ> btw ubotu's current way is easier, imho
[10:10] <RQ> !webmin
[10:10] <ubotu> To use webmin with ubuntu you have to add a webmin-root account with : /usr/share/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root "password", or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount
[10:11] <hondje> sure is taking a year to upload that core
[10:11] <hondje> oh crap, it's 84M
[10:12] <teced> Hi, anyone here know about installing Beagle from the repository?
[10:13] <darkmatter> sudo apt-get install beagle
[10:13] <darkmatter> or use synaptic
[10:13] <mgcross> hondje: where do I put me core dump...lol
[10:13] <teced> Sure - done that, but BEST won't run!
[10:13] <hondje> mgcross: better to just add a comment saying you get it too, the dump is going to be huge
[10:13] <hondje> since firefox is huge
[10:13] <mgcross> hondje: lol...k...i'll delete it from my home dir then <grin>
[10:14] <hondje> :)
[10:14] <Madpilot> good night/morning/whatever, everyone. need some sleep...
[10:14] <hondje> I'll save mine in case they need it, but it's a pretty big bug, I'm sure they'll figure it out
[10:15] <mgcross> hondje: um...should I add my email addy somewhere?
[10:15] <hondje> if you registered they'll have it
[10:16] <hondje> do you not have to register to comment? /me isn't sure
[10:16] <mgcross> hmmm...don't know that I did...installed back in Warty days...
[10:18] <onno> Hello, I want to buy a wireless card for my PC (not laptop)  wich brand should I buy?
[10:18] <onno> so that it works with Ubuntu
[10:18] <darkmatter> teced: http://beaglewiki.org/index.php/UbuntuInstall
[10:18] <aru> netgear
[10:18] <mgcross> hondje: well crap...I know I did...gotta go digging for user/pass
[10:18] <aru> !
[10:18] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, aru
[10:18] <aru> !apology
[10:18] <ubotu> aru: Are you smoking crack?
[10:18] <aru> heh
[10:21] <PIANIST> Anyone got a static IP to the I-Net?
[10:21] <fabiob> Hello, /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xorg is a symlink to "base"
[10:21] <fabiob> but, who provides "base"?
[10:21] <bob2> PIANIST: lots of peple do...
[10:21] <PIANIST> do you?
[10:21] <bob2> fabiob: if you're using breezy, C is known to be screwed
[10:21] <bob2> PIANIST: do you have a specific question?
[10:22] <PIANIST> cause I want to know If I can mask mine...
[10:22] <PIANIST> so that noone can see it
[10:22] <bob2> that's usually pointless, but read the freenode FAQ
[10:22] <bob2> you obviously can't hide everything you do on the internet
[10:23] <PIANIST> not everything but the IP is one of those things you can hide.
[10:23] <hondje> I can, watch
[10:23] <hondje>  /quit
[10:23] <oggah> the most resource light webserver for win2k?
[10:23] <hondje> :)
[10:23] <bob2> PIANIST: no, sorry
[10:23] <bob2> oggah: #windows, I guess
[10:23] <stian_> oggah, apache
[10:23] <PIANIST> !whois
[10:23] <ubotu> PIANIST: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:23] <PIANIST> wtf?
[10:23] <fabiob> bob2: I was wondering if I could fix it, at least the keyboard layout-thing.
[10:24] <PIANIST> what shall be larger?
[10:24] <bob2> PIANIST: what's your native language?
[10:24] <PIANIST> German sorry... I know
[10:24] <hondje> um, are you here as root, PIANIST ?
[10:24] <bob2> #ubuntu-de might be easier for you :)
[10:25] <hondje> that's a bad idea
[10:25] <PIANIST> no problem bob2. hondje: what do you mean. localy im root yes...
[10:25] <PIANIST> Just try it hondje
[10:25] <hondje> PIANIST: then you're here as root, it's not a good idea
[10:25] <hondje> try what?
[10:25] <PIANIST> if you mean that someone can get into my system....
[10:26] <hondje> it's not an open door, but it's still considered foolish
[10:26] <PIANIST> or what do you mean? Whats bad to be local root?
[10:26] <hondje> because anything you run is run by root
[10:26] <PIANIST> and?
[10:26] <timl> if you're IRCing as root then it's possible you're doing other things as root, and these are all generally bad ideas unless you absolutely need to be root
[10:26] <PIANIST> i see no problem in it
[10:26] <lighthammer> good morn channel
[10:26] <hondje> that means if there's - for example - an xchat exploit, that can make it a root exploit
[10:26] <lighthammer> http://www.vnunet.com/forbes/news/2138306/linux-losers?page=1
[10:27] <PIANIST> lol
[10:27] <lighthammer> some intersting info
[10:27] <timl> PIANIST: it's the principle of least privilege
[10:27] <thoreauputic> PIANIST: irc ing as root is... dumb
[10:27] <ptlo> PIANIST, then any chunk of malicious code you happen to exec can tear the system down
[10:27] <timl> if you don't need to be root, don't be root, you can only break things
[10:27] <PIANIST> i know. and i know what i can do and what i should not do.
[10:27] <timl> yes, but that doesn't prevent you accidently doing something silly
[10:28] <PIANIST> and i have to be root cause i configure the server in our lan.
[10:28] <thoreauputic> PIANIST: well, if you don't want to listen it's your own funeral
[10:28] <PIANIST> I know.... its my problem.
[10:28] <timl> *shrug*
[10:28] <asad2005> I have added the normal user manually and now it does not show in gdmsetup for timed login, any ideas?
[10:29] <onno> Hello, I want to buy a wireless card for my PC (not laptop)  wich brand should I buy?
[10:29] <darkmatter> lighthammer: nice link. and i thought the war had ended ;)
[10:29] <Seveas> mornin' all!
[10:29] <Seveas> onno, any brand that has a chip with native lionux drivers
[10:29] <bob2> onno: one using an atheros or prism or orinoco chipset should work fine out of the box
[10:29] <Seveas> onno, like intel IPW, atheros, prism2
[10:29] <darkmatter> mornin' Seveas
[10:29] <bob2> can you get PCI Intel cards?
[10:30] <Seveas> bob2, ENOCLUE
[10:30] <GreenmanX> hi
[10:30] <daniels> ok
[10:30] <Seveas> but i *thought* so
[10:30] <daniels> so it turns out that I'm getting a lot of bugs and a lot of /msg's about this
[10:30] <daniels> so it seems lots of people are trying
[10:30] <daniels> IF YOU WANT WORKING X OR FIREFOX, RIGHT NOW, BREEZY IS NOT FOR YOU
[10:30] <Seveas> daniels, what about hoary?
[10:30] <daniels> it will probably remain broken for a few days at least
[10:30] <daniels> hoary is fine
[10:30] <Seveas> looks odd in the topic: FF broken in hoary
[10:30] <daniels> thank you
[10:31] <GreenmanX> ive just got one stupid question...im thinking about using linux and so i decided to test ubuntu with the live cd....but how can i login? username and password?
[10:31] <daniels> Seveas: yeah, the firefox security broke some extensions.  yay.
[10:31] <asad2005> user does not show gdm  , any ideas?
[10:31] <Seveas> daniels, ghe, so the extensions are broken, not FF :)
[10:32] <Seveas> nice one bob2
[10:32] <flipy> I've set up an apache server
[10:32] <Seveas> GreenmanX, it will auto-login
[10:32] <Seveas> asad2005, can you be a little less vague please...
[10:32] <flipy> but if I try to run a .php file, it downloads it instead of parsing it
[10:32] <Seveas> flipy, install libapache2-mod-php4
[10:33] <flipy> it is installed
[10:33] <flipy> dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/libapache2-mod-php4_*.deb
[10:33] <flipy> seems to be a bug with that package
[10:33] <Seveas> hmm, not really, it installed clean on all my systems...
[10:33] <asad2005> Seveas, user does not show in gdm list of users for login?
[10:33] <darkmatter> GreenmanX: yes. username and password
[10:33] <Seveas> asad2005, what is the UID of that user?
[10:33] <Seveas> darkmatter, *live*cd
[10:33] <GreenmanX> Seveas: but theres a login screen for 10 seconds, after these 10 seconds i get an error message
[10:34] <Seveas> GreenmanX, what is the error?
[10:34] <flipy> Seveas: do I have to enable anything?
[10:34] <darkmatter> oops. need to ajust my dyslexic fonts.
[10:34] <Seveas> flipy, check /etc/apache2/mods-available/
[10:34] <asad2005> Seveas, 1000
[10:34] <thespiritoftal>  I have downloaded the java bin file what should i do now?
[10:34] <flipy> Seveas: I can seem php in mods-available, but not in mods-enabled (after restart of apache)
[10:34] <deFrysk> ! java
[10:34] <ubotu> java is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[10:35] <Seveas> symlinks in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled should exist
[10:35] <flipy> uhm symlinks
[10:35] <Seveas> flipy, so create them :)
[10:35] <flipy> ok
[10:35] <thespiritoftal>  I have downloaded the java bin file what should i do now?
[10:35] <deFrysk> ! java
[10:35] <Seveas> thespiritoftal: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[10:35] <ubotu> I heard java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[10:36] <flipy> Seveas: both .load and .conf?
[10:36] <Seveas> flipy, yes
[10:36] <GreenmanX> Seveas: something about not logged in within 10 seconds...test rebooting to get the autologin
[10:36] <flipy> thanks
[10:36] <Seveas> GreenmanX, and that is on the liveCD on every boot?
[10:37] <GreenmanX> Seveas: *shame on me* it was the first boot of the live cd
[10:37] <GreenmanX> ill see it in a few seconds
[10:37] <Seveas> which version is it?
[10:37] <asad2005> Seveas, the UID is 1000
[10:37] <GreenmanX> Seveas: the latest
[10:38] <Seveas> asad2005, hmm, odd, that should definitely be in the login list
[10:38] <omer> Hellp
[10:38] <Seveas> GreenmanX, there are severeal interpretations of 'latest'
[10:38] <omer> *Hello
[10:38] <darkmatter> hi
[10:38] <asad2005> Seveas, is there away to add it
[10:38] <omer> I need help with ATI tv wonder
[10:38] <Seveas> GreenmanX, is it hoary (5.04) or breezy (5.10 development)
[10:38] <GreenmanX> Seveas: 5.04
[10:38] <traveller> is it a good idea to convert an rpm file to deb and install it?
[10:38] <Seveas> ok, 5.04 should work :)
[10:39] <Seveas> traveller, only if you cannot find a .deb
[10:39] <hyphenated> traveller: not really
[10:39] <Seveas> traveller, which piece of software is it?
[10:39] <traveller> Seveas: java runtime
[10:39] <GreenmanX> i hope so...otherwise i will try to install ubuntu on an external usb hdd
[10:39] <Seveas> traveller, BAD idea
[10:39] <omer> I need help with working on /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:39] <Seveas> traveller: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[10:39] <hyphenated> Seveas: is that an alias? :-)
[10:39] <franck> hi. I have trouble getting my Hoary system translated in french. Main is fine, but universe package are in english (eg. firestarter or wxvlc)
[10:39] <Seveas> hyphenated, of course :)
[10:40] <thespiritoftal> I tried to do fakeroot make-jpkg [bin-file]  and it says : You are real root -- unfortunately, some Java distributions have
[10:40] <thespiritoftal> install scripts that directly manipulate /etc, and may cause some
[10:40] <thespiritoftal> inconsistencies on your system. Instead, you should become a non-root user and run it
[10:40] <traveller> Seveas: ah thanks a lot
[10:40] <hyphenated> saw the same instructions yesterday and was trying to type it all..
[10:40] <Seveas> franck, than there simply is no translation for it
[10:40] <thespiritoftal> how can i become a non-root user?
[10:40] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, then run fakeroot make-jpkg as a normal user
[10:40] <omer> Can anyone could help me this?
[10:40] <franck> well, it is translated on Debian sid at least
[10:40] <stian_> supertux isn't on the sources :\
[10:40] <Seveas> Do NOT run it as root
[10:40] <thespiritoftal> how can i run it as a normal user?
[10:40] <Seveas> stian_, it is
[10:40] <thespiritoftal> I am a beginner I don't know well
[10:40] <CyddV> sorry to be such a noob, but what is the correct command to force apt to install firefox 1.04 instead of the 1.06 dummy packages? (this is for hoary) thanks
[10:41] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, just open a new terminal (not a root terminal) and don;t use sudo
[10:41] <traveller> is there a flash player for ubuntu amd64?
[10:41] <bob2> thespiritoftal: so, don't run it as root
[10:41] <bob2> which is common sense, anyway
[10:41] <Seveas> traveller, no
[10:41] <omer> Does anyone could help me with Xorg?
[10:41] <Seveas> omer, be a bit more specific...
[10:41] <traveller> Seveas: oh ok, then i'll have to live with that for some time, thanks
[10:41] <Seveas> traveller, in fact: there is no flash player for amd64 at all
[10:42] <omer> I have ATI TV wonder and HOWTO that explain to make it work
[10:42] <omer> I have problem with editing Xorg
[10:42] <flipy> Seveas: I've rebooted the machine, and still tries to download the files instead of parsing it?
[10:42] <Seveas> omer: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:42] <Seveas> flipy, go to a non-existent url on your server so you will get a 404 page, does apache tell you that is has php loaded?
[10:42] <traveller> Seveas: i see, is there a possibility of having flash on amd64?
[10:43] <omer> The HOWTO is in ubuntu orums
[10:43] <Seveas> traveller, no
[10:43] <thespiritoftal> how can i open a terminal as normal user? in my ubuntu there is only a "root terminal" option I can't find any other option avaliable
[10:43] <traveller> Seveas: alright
[10:43] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, applications -> system tools -> terminal
[10:43] <omer> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&highlight=tv+card
[10:43] <omer> This is the HOWTO
[10:43] <Seveas> traveller, blame macromedia, they don't support linux on amd64
[10:43] <arno> hi ppl, how do u suggest me to organize my partitions for a new ubuntu install? Is there a directory taking more space than others that could make a partition (like whats the directory where install files are stored)?
[10:43] <omer> I stack in level 3
[10:43] <traveller> Seveas: yea i suppose :/
[10:43] <thoreauputic> thespiritoftal: or right click the desktop and choose the terminal
[10:43] <Seveas> omer, discard all howtos on the forums and use the wiki :)
[10:44] <bob2> arno: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:44] <GreenmanX> Seveas: okay...the same problem after intall...login screen came up...user ubuntu will login within 10 sec...screen went black...now ive got the error message..."your session only lastest less than 10 seconds. if you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is a problem bla bla try failsafe session
[10:44] <bob2> arno: there's usually little point having more than / and /home, tho
[10:44] <GreenmanX> Seveas: hm...after reboot
[10:44] <franck> maybe my translation problems have to do with UTF8 ?
[10:44] <arno> bob2, ok thx
[10:44] <Seveas> GreenmanX, odd, have you tested the md5sum of the iso before you burnt it?
[10:45] <omer> I cn't use the Wiki
[10:45] <omer> I have a TV card, not Graphic Card
[10:45] <thespiritoftal> again gives error :/
[10:45] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, what is the error?
[10:45] <GreenmanX> Seveas: hm...dont remember...i downloaded two or three weeks ago but burnt it today
[10:45] <thespiritoftal> Loading plugins: blackdown-j2re.sh blackdown-j2sdk.sh common.sh ibm-j2re.sh ibm-j2sdk.sh j2re.sh j2sdk.sh j2se.sh sun-j2re.sh sun-j2sdk.sh
[10:45] <thespiritoftal> sh: gcc: command not found
[10:45] <thespiritoftal> dpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)
[10:45] <thespiritoftal> sh: gcc: command not found
[10:45] <thespiritoftal> dpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)
[10:45] <thespiritoftal> sh: gcc: command not found
[10:46] <thespiritoftal> dpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)
[10:46] <Seveas> whooow don't paste in here!
[10:46] <thespiritoftal> sh: gcc: command not found
[10:46] <thespiritoftal> dpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)
[10:46] <thespiritoftal> sh: gcc: command not found
[10:46] <GreenmanX> Seveas: maybe there a problem because i try it on my notebook?
[10:46] <Seveas> GreenmanX, what graphics chip does it have?
[10:46] <GreenmanX> ati 9600 mobility
[10:46] <Seveas> hmm, odd
[10:47] <Seveas> I have the same and it works flawlessly, so it isn't the chip
[10:47] <Seveas> please check the md5sum of the iso
[10:47] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for big pastes
[10:47] <thespiritoftal> ok
[10:47] <GreenmanX> Seveas: could the problem result from a faulty screen resolution?
[10:47] <thespiritoftal> what should i do now?
[10:47] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, and run: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:47] <franck> Do I have to install localeconf to get universe packages localized ?
[10:48] <Seveas> GreenmanX, for the ati chip on laptops, auto-detect works fine
[10:48] <Seveas> GreenmanX, try dropping to a terminal with <ctrl><alt><f1> and login as user ubuntu without password (if that works) and loook at the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:49] <thespiritoftal> it says  After unpacking 13.1MB of additional disk space will be used.Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? I type Y and it says Abort. why does it give this error? I cannot understand
[10:49] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, try y instead of Y
[10:49] <GreenmanX> okay, but when booting, theres the possibility to choose your resultions...may be i shouldnt touch that ;)
[10:49] <Seveas> (both should work though...)
[10:49] <hyphenated> just pressing enter should work
[10:49] <Seveas> GreenmanX, ah :)
[10:49] <Seveas> indeed
[10:49] <hyphenated> it says Abort because it crashed
[10:49] <thespiritoftal> I tried both
[10:50] <thespiritoftal> doesn't work
[10:50] <omer> There is nothing in the Wiki about TV card
[10:50] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, does it just say abort or more?
[10:50] <thespiritoftal> Just Abort.
[10:50] <omer> can anyone could help conigure it?
[10:50] <thespiritoftal> any ideas?
[10:51] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, and run: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[10:51] <Seveas> instead of apt-get
[10:52] <omer> S.O.S
[10:52] <franck> omer, what do you want to do ? what software do you want to use with that card ?
[10:54] <omer> I want to watch TV with that card, Don't care how, because I'm realy don't know any program.
[10:54] <NightLord> I need help with xvidtune
[10:55] <NightLord> anyone got any experience?
[10:55] <catfox> if i have a file in /home/user/test.py and that file imports other files in the same directory. how can i symlink the test.py file to /usr/local/ so that any calls to the link (/usr/local/test.py) still finds the files in the origional directory
[10:56] <franck> omer, what is you card chipset ?
[10:56] <benplaut> goodnight all
[10:56] <omer> The tipe is ATI TV Wonder
[10:56] <darkmatter> NightLord: didn't you bookmark the How To i linked you to earlier?
[10:57] <benplaut> \quit "C is for COOKEE!"
[10:57] <benplaut> darn
[10:57] <omer> They Don't have a lot o it
[10:57] <benplaut> why do i always do that
[10:57] <omer> My ubuntu recosnise at as another thing at all
[10:57] <omer> *recognise
[10:58] <franck> omer, have a look at http://c.laloy.free.fr/howtos/linux/index_hardw.html
[10:58] <darkmatter> I'll send the link again NightLord
[10:58] <darkmatter> just a sec
[10:58] <NightLord> sorry
[10:58] <NightLord> I got it to work, but it resets when i reboot :/
[10:58] <omer> Thank' I try it
[10:58] <arno> whats the difference between linux-386 and linux-image-386 in the install when it asks for what kernel to install?
[10:58] <stjepan> hello
[10:59] <stjepan> I use Ubuntu Linux 5.04
[10:59] <omer> It not USB, it inside the computer
[10:59] <stjepan> My ADSL works
[10:59] <stjepan> and download is great
[10:59] <NightLord> and whats your problem stejpan?
[10:59] <stjepan> fast
[10:59] <stjepan> but surfing is very slow
[10:59] <Sponge_> HELP! - Does anybody know whether tlip is able to send flash apps to a voyage 200?
[10:59] <stjepan> surfing is slow linke surfing with dialup
[10:59] <franck> Ok, I'll come back later with my untranslated apps problems... Bye
[10:59] <stjepan> what's problem?
[11:00] <stjepan> my IP is 192.168.1.2, gateway is 192.168.1.1, subnet mask is 255.255.255.0
[11:00] <omer> And it in Franch
[11:00] <thespiritoftal> seveas I have disconnected can you tell me the command again?
[11:00] <thespiritoftal> I am sorry
[11:00] <omer> Can you have another Idea?
[11:01] <stjepan> my DNSs are: 192.168.1.1, 195.29.150.3, 195.29.150.4
[11:01] <darkmatter> NightLord: xvidtune How to and example at http://pastebin.ca/18267
[11:01] <NightLord> thank yu
[11:01] <stjepan> what is problem?
[11:01] <darkmatter> no prob
[11:01] <Sponge_> stjepan: Do you want to get hacked???
[11:01] <thespiritoftal> seveas are you there?
[11:01] <stjepan> Sponge_: what?
[11:01] <athlon> thespiritoftal,  Seveas : thespiritoftal, and run: sudo aptitude install build-essential <linebreak> Seveas : instead of apt-get
[11:02] <thespiritoftal> thanks athlon
[11:02] <dimm> hi
[11:02] <thoreauputic> stjepan: do you need the local DNS? are you running a DNS server of your own?
[11:02] <dimm> I'm trying to install ubuntu (5.04) on my t43 thinkpad
[11:03] <omer> If you can help me with My HOWTO it will hellp
[11:03] <dimm> for some reason I can't install grub on my /boot partition
[11:03] <thespiritoftal> athlon can you tell me how to install java now?
[11:03] <bob2> don't make a /boot partition
[11:03] <NightLord> woah... looks complex
[11:03] <bob2> that's the simplest solution
[11:04] <Nameeater> what package do I need for cgi?
[11:04] <thespiritoftal> can someone tell me how to install java?
[11:04] <dimm> why not?
[11:04] <thespiritoftal> I have downloaded the bin file
[11:04] <bob2> Nameeater: nothing
[11:04] <bob2> thespiritoftal: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[11:04] <thoreauputic> !java
[11:04] <ubotu> well, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[11:04] <dimm> I'm trying to make a dual boot system
[11:04] <bob2> Nameeater: unless you mean "How do I install a web server?"?
[11:04] <bob2> dimm: you still don't need /boot
[11:05] <Nameeater> I have apache, that deals with cgi?
[11:05] <bob2> yes
[11:05] <Nameeater> neat, thanks
[11:05] <arno> whats the difference between linux-386 and linux-image-386 as a kernel?
[11:05] <thoreauputic> dimm: I have a triple boot and grub is installed in mbr
[11:05] <bob2> arno: neither are kernels
[11:05] <thespiritoftal> but Seveas told me smth different than what's written in that url
[11:05] <darkmatter> NightLord: not really, just trial and error to find the screen position. once that is done just copy and paste the printout from terminal
[11:06] <thespiritoftal> can someone look up and tell me?
[11:06] <bob2> arno: they just Depend on other stuff, to make it easier to install it
[11:06] <NightLord> i got the printout
[11:06] <thespiritoftal> please.... :/
[11:06] <bob2> thespiritoftal: the instructions on that page will work fine
[11:06] <NightLord> its the editing part that looks complex, worried about messing it uo
[11:06] <arno> bob2, ok so i'd better choose linux-386 and it will install the others is it?
[11:06] <dimm> the problem is I need to keep ntldr on the mbr in order for the ibm recovery partition to function properly
[11:06] <bob2> arno: yes
[11:06] <arno> bob2, ok thanks again :)
[11:06] <thespiritoftal> bob2 can you look up and copy and paste Seveas's tells to me
[11:06] <thespiritoftal> please
[11:07] <bob2> thespiritoftal: you can do that as easily as I can
[11:07] <thespiritoftal> but I got disconnected
[11:07] <thespiritoftal> that's why I can't do it
[11:07] <bob2> good god dude
[11:07] <darkmatter> just c n' p the differences. you only need to add the one section (onlythree lines), and then reference to it in your monitor section
[11:08] <bob2> 18:39:35 @       Seveas |  traveller: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[11:09] <NightLord> also, i don't have a /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file
[11:09] <weitao__> hi,do some body knows , how can Ichange the fonts in the GDM?
[11:09] <thespiritoftal> the version of firefox that comes with ubuntu really sucks
[11:09] <bob2> thespiritoftal: in what sense?
[11:09] <thespiritoftal> when I open it the computer gets too slow
[11:09] <bob2> right
[11:10] <bob2> ubuntu applied a special "slow thespiritoftal's computer down" patch
[11:10] <thoreauputic> NightLord: on Hoary it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:10] <darkmatter> NightLord. xorg.conf
[11:10] <NightLord> oh, thanks
[11:11] <alkuovi> thespiritoftal: you can try an optimized kernel. It might help.
[11:12] <darkmatter> NightLord:if you have any trouble, just upload your xorg.conf and the xvidtune output to pastebin. then link to it here
[11:13] <darkmatter> then i'll walk you through
[11:14] <NightLord> Done :)
[11:14] <NightLord> that was easy :)
[11:15] <darkmatter> congrats
[11:16] <traveller> hm...i installed java as per the instructions, and even corrected the symlinks in the firefox plugin directory, but firefox isn't picking up the plugin
[11:17] <NightLord> where is the install directory of Firefox?
[11:18] <traveller> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[11:18] <NightLord> thanks
[11:19] <stjepan> heya
[11:19] <stjepan> hello
[11:20] <darkmatter> hello
[11:20] <stjepan> I have Ubuntu, not Kubuntu
[11:20] <stjepan> I want to install KDE
[11:20] <stjepan> how?
[11:20] <stjepan> but I do now want to download it
[11:20] <freewoody> Hi all
[11:20] <stjepan> because it is 3** MB
[11:21] <anacron> stjepan: sudo apt-get install kde?
[11:21] <darkmatter> stjepan: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:21] <freewoody> How do I rotate my Squid logs ?
[11:21] <Ghete1> whats the command to make somethign world readable?
[11:21] <Ghete1> its chown o+r file ?
[11:21] <Computer__Guru> Ghete1: chmod a+r whatever
[11:21] <Ghete1> ah ok
[11:21] <darkmatter> or open synaptic and search for kubuntu-desktop
[11:21] <Computer__Guru> a=all, g=group, u=user
[11:22] <traveller> freewoody: add a rule in logrotate
[11:22] <NightLord> if you want, just do apt-get install kde-core
[11:22] <NightLord> that way its smaller and easier
[11:22] <freewoody> What kind of rule ?
[11:22] <freewoody> traveller ?
[11:23] <traveller> freewoody: man logrotate will tell you all the things about how to write rules
[11:23] <bob2> ah, classy, freewoody, ask in another channel instead of reading the manpage
[11:23] <NightLord> can someone help, i'm trying to mount my windows partition, but when i do i get the following error (I've included the command i used)
[11:23] <NightLord> root@faarkje:/home/bruce/Flash/install_flash_player_7_linux # mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -umask=0222
[11:23] <NightLord> mount: invalid option -- u
[11:23] <NightLord> i don't think the folder matters
[11:23] <freewoody> bob2, why are you chasing me in both Ubuntu and Debain
[11:24] <bob2> I'm not, I use both
[11:24] <freewoody> So do I
[11:24] <bob2> I don't know why you didn't read the manpage yet, tho, which answers your question
[11:24] <freewoody> Is that a problem for you ?
[11:24] <Ghete1> and how do i make something not world readable?
[11:24] <freewoody> Well I just don't understand manpages that much bob
[11:25] <bob2> freewoody: so, you read it but didn't understand some of it?
[11:25] <deviant> hello guys
[11:25] <daves> astro76: hi ya :)
[11:25] <NightLord> any ideas?
[11:25] <traveller> freewoody: logrotate's man page is pretty comprehensible, else you could just open up the files and study them, pretty straightforward rules
[11:25] <deviant> can some one recomend me a good media player plugin for mozilla?
[11:26] <fabiob> NightLord: -o umask=0222
[11:26] <traveller> deviant: tried mozilla-mplayer ?
[11:26] <NightLord> i know, i just figured it
[11:26] <freewoody> I did /usr/sbin/logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.d/squid     but nothing happens
[11:26] <NightLord> stupid mistake, sorry
[11:26] <bob2> freewoody: does that file exist?
[11:26] <deviant> traveller: i`m using it now, but i`m not satisfied with it . it crashes my browser.
[11:26] <freewoody> Yes it does
[11:27] <bob2> freewoody: so paste it's contents to #flood
[11:27] <bob2> freewoody: and you know it won't print anything, right?
[11:27] <NightLord> hmm
[11:27] <traveller> deviant: then i don't know what else i can suggest
[11:27] <freewoody> Yes I know but I don't see any changes in   /var/log/squid/
[11:27] <deviant> traveller: is there no other i can use?
[11:27] <NightLord> it says now:
[11:27] <NightLord> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -o -umask=0222
[11:27] <NightLord> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[11:27] <NightLord>        missing codepage or other error
[11:27] <NightLord>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[11:27] <NightLord>        dmesg | tail  or so
[11:27] <freewoody> How do I use the #flood    ?
[11:28] <traveller> deviant: sorry mate, i'm still new to ubuntu, perhaps you wanna stay awhile, someone else might know the answer to your question
[11:28] <gilligan> hi there
[11:28] <deviant> traveller: no problem mate. thanks anyway :D
[11:28] <gilligan> does anyone know which package includes alsasink ? apt-cache search alsasink doesnt find anything
[11:29] <traveller> deviant: you're welcome
[11:29] <daves> today as a test i tried the # program here $ (so i can use the cli after starting a cli process but nothing happended ? ideas
[11:30] <Computer__Guru> daves wtf are you on about?
[11:31] <daves> computer_Guru:okay ... to connect via 56k i am using wvdial
[11:31] <Computer__Guru> ah i see
[11:31] <thoreauputic> !find alsasink
[11:31] <Computer__Guru> no clue tho, heh
[11:32] <daves> Computer_ Guru: to save me having a cli open as i have now i saw a message for someone else saying if you use #wvdial --config isp.conf $ then you get the cli back
[11:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'alsasink' returned no results.
[11:32] <Computer__Guru> gotchya
[11:33] <Computer__Guru> daves kppp
[11:33] <freewoody> bob2, are you there
[11:33] <traveller> daves: it's supposed to be '&' that backgrounds your job
[11:33] <bob2> freewoody: er, did you even look at that file?
[11:34] <traveller> daves: not '$'
[11:34] <bob2> freewoody: every line is commented out
[11:34] <darkmatter> gilligan: should be gstreamer0.8-plugins
[11:34] <darkmatter> i think
[11:35] <freewoody> No I just commented out the first few lines
[11:35] <Computer__Guru> okay people
[11:35] <Computer__Guru> bed for me
[11:35] <daves> Computer_Guru: used it and was very happy but using gnome and have installed some other kde stuff but they aren't inserted in the menu, so how to do this is another learning curve i have (kde was easier under MDK)
[11:35] <Computer__Guru> peace
[11:35] <Computer__Guru> love
[11:36] <Computer__Guru> and chicken grease
[11:36] <bob2> freewoody: you commented out some essential lines
[11:36] <Computer__Guru> ah
[11:36] <Computer__Guru> daves: go to a run prompt and type "kdesu kppp"
[11:36] <freewoody> Is that so ?
[11:36] <NightLord> why does it say wrong filesystem when i try to mount my windows partition?
[11:37] <NightLord> using command : mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows  -o -umask=0222
[11:37] <gilligan> darkmatter, nope :/ i have that installed
[11:37] <bob2> NightLord: because you didn't tell it what filesystem it is
[11:37] <darkmatter> is the partition ntfs or fat/fat32
[11:37] <freewoody> So I just uncomment all the lines
[11:37] <bob2> freewoody: why did you comment them out to begin with?
[11:37] <NightLord> i did
[11:37] <thoreauputic> NightLord: try including -t ntfs
[11:37] <NightLord> sorry, typed ito ut wrong
[11:37] <niran> how do i see which packages depend on a given package?
[11:37] <NightLord> i did
[11:37] <NightLord> i figured it out now anyway
[11:37] <gilligan> darkmatter, do u have alsasink installed?
[11:37] <NightLord> got rid of the - before umask
[11:38] <Computer__Guru> daves: you know you can install kde on ubuntu, it's even got a name... open a shell and type sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[11:38] <rey_cute> #bandung
[11:38] <freewoody> Well I thought that I just need to comment out the all the logs
[11:38] <Computer__Guru> then just use kppp natively :D
[11:38] <freewoody> then just use the lines below to rotate the access.log, store.log and cache.log
[11:39] <NightLord> does anyone know how to make ubuntu run a command on startup
[11:39] <darkmatter> gilligan:not to my knowledge.
[11:39] <thoreauputic> niran: apt-cache depends , apt-cache rdepends
[11:39] <traveller> niran: apt-cache depends <pkg>
[11:39] <daves> Computer_Guru: ya downloading the iso now (think it might be simpler to do that).
[11:39] <bob2> freewoody: no
[11:39] <bob2> freewoody: also, your irc client is shit and didn't actually show us the whole file
[11:39] <Computer__Guru> daves
[11:39] <NightLord> like i want to it to automatically mount my windows partition when i start up
[11:39] <Computer__Guru> not at ALL
[11:39] <NightLord> does anyone know how?
[11:39] <Triffid_Hunter> NightLord: make a bootscript, or see if there's a local.start somewhere
[11:39] <daves> gnome is a learning curver on top of a new OS
[11:39] <Computer__Guru> daves, open a root terminal
[11:39] <Computer__Guru> and type
[11:39] <Computer__Guru> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:39] <thoreauputic> NightLord: you need a line in /etc/fstab for it
[11:40] <NightLord> ok
[11:40] <Computer__Guru> and when it asks you, select kdm instead of gdm
[11:40] <freewoody> Well I am using Gaim for my IRC chatting
[11:40] <Computer__Guru> then reboot
[11:40] <NightLord> use XChat
[11:40] <Computer__Guru> when kdm comes up, click session type and select kde
[11:40] <NightLord> or just type  apt-get install kde-core
[11:40] <Computer__Guru> and you're in kde
[11:40] <NightLord> for the basics
[11:40] <daves> Ya but i am on 56K modem not dsl or cable and wife starts to show teeth if on over night
[11:40] <Computer__Guru> hahahaha
[11:40] <Computer__Guru> i hear ya
[11:41] <Computer__Guru> buy her some shoes
[11:41] <Computer__Guru> or even better
[11:41] <gilligan> btw.. anyone in here running breezy ? is it currently still very broken ? or is it okay to upgrade atm..?
[11:41] <Computer__Guru> give her some money
[11:41] <hussam> anybody knows? have packages like samba been removed from ubuntu-backports and Ubutnu-extras?
[11:41] <Computer__Guru> she can buy her own shoes
[11:41] <Computer__Guru> :D
[11:41] <freewoody> bob2, can you please check out the logrotate squid file at: http://pastebin.com/318381      ?
[11:41] <daves> God no she has heaps alread
[11:41] <thoreauputic> gilligan:  /topic
[11:41] <daves> hell i an't that rich
[11:41] <bob2> hussam: I'd hope so
[11:41] <bob2> hussam: talk to the backports people
[11:41] <benny> can I play .mkv in ubuntu?
[11:42] <bob2> benny: yes
[11:42] <daves> i 'll just suck the is odown over XXX nights and then upgrade
[11:42] <gilligan> thoreauputic, aah.ok.. could only read parts of it because it doesnt fit in the xchat topic line hehe
[11:42] <hussam> bob2: on ubuntuforums?
[11:42] <se7enone> anybody know where i can download full software repositories (cd size)?
[11:42] <thoreauputic> gilligan: if you mouse over the line it should show the lot
[11:43] <bob2> hussam: no idea
[11:43] <gilligan> thoreauputic, sure thing.. i just didn't think of it.
[11:43] <bob2> se7enone: define what you want better
[11:43] <NightLord> will adding this line to fstab be ok, or will i have to add options?
[11:43] <NightLord> /dev/hda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs
[11:43] <freewoody> so bob2 ???
[11:43] <bob2> freewoody: !!!!
[11:44] <bob2> freewoody: it's time to hire a sysadmin
[11:44] <gilligan> thoreauputic, has breezy already been switched to polyaudio instead of esd ?
[11:44] <freewoody> No man, I don't have time for that
[11:44] <gilligan> thoreauputic, as default i mean
[11:44] <thoreauputic> gilligan: no idea, sorry
[11:44] <bob2> you've spent 4 hours trying to rotate log files
[11:44] <freewoody> My proxy server is getting slower and is coming to a stop
[11:44] <freewoody> Yes man
[11:44] <bob2> so hire someone who knows what they're doing
[11:44] <thoreauputic> gilligan: I'm on Hoary
[11:44] <bob2> or just stop squid and rotate the files manually
[11:45] <freewoody> I can't stop Squid now
[11:45] <gilligan> thoreauputic, ah ok
[11:45] <traveller> anyone knows of a java howto for ubuntu?
[11:45] <bob2> freewoody: sure you can
[11:45] <thoreauputic> gilligan: I heard rumours that Breezy will use dmix though
[11:45] <bob2> traveller: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[11:46] <traveller> bob2: ah thanks
[11:46] <gilligan> thoreauputic, anything is fine as long as this esd crap is removed
[11:46] <daves> Computer_Guru / anyone: know how to intergrate kde stuff into gnome (eg ark, k3b ?)
[11:46] <gilligan> thoreauputic, dunno if its any different on x86 but its utterly unreliable on ppc
[11:46] <thoreauputic> gilligan: I fully concur - i currently have esd disabled
[11:46] <daves> why 'cause i am used to them
[11:46] <NightLord> why is it when i do ctrl+h in firefox to show my history, it closes without any errors or warning
[11:47] <Computer__Guru> daves, right click the desktop, select run command, type in "kdesu kppp"
[11:47] <thoreauputic> NightLord: i think that would be called a crash
[11:47] <NightLord> ok
[11:47] <NightLord> i know
[11:47] <Computer__Guru> you might have to install kdesu
[11:47] <NightLord> but why specifically when i do ctl+h
[11:48] <NightLord> its meant to show history not crash it
[11:48] <thoreauputic> NightLord: indeed
[11:48] <thoreauputic> NightLord: did you recently update/change firefox?
[11:48] <NightLord> even when i go to it from GO>show history it crashes
[11:48] <NightLord> yes, i installed flash, and yesterday i updated it when ubuntu told me to
[11:49] <se7enone> bob2: my problem is that my ubuntu machine is at home, where i have no internet connection. I can only download packages at work, and keep running into so much dependency problems. is there no place I can download full cd's worth of software. doesn't matter what software, I'll collect everything if i can...
[11:49] <thoreauputic> NightLord: I have a feeling the recent update could be responsible
[11:49] <bob2> se7enone: no, sorry
[11:49] <se7enone> gret
[11:49] <bob2> se7enone: you could use debian-cd to make your own cds, tho
[11:49] <se7enone> great
[11:49] <bob2> se7enone: or apt-zip
[11:49] <daves> Computer_Guru: closes thing i get is a create Launcher item in the popup menulist
[11:50] <se7enone> bob2: looking for multimedia apps mainly
[11:50] <aptloverg> hey all wheres the latest apt repos?
[11:50] <thoreauputic> bob2: was the warning about Hoary firefox removed from /topic because it was fixed?
[11:50] <Computer__Guru> well that would work too :D put that under command.. *shrug* there has to be a gnome app out there somewhere that's the same as kppp
[11:50] <bob2> aptloverg: please don't jus tadd random new ones for no reason
[11:50] <se7enone> is there no way to download everything at packages.ubuntu.org?
[11:51] <bob2> se7enone: not unless you want to click through 16 000 packages
[11:51] <bob2> se7enone: use debian-cd or apt-zip
[11:51] <Computer__Guru> se7enone: recursive ftp
[11:51] <bob2> thoreauputic: hm, don't think so
[11:51] <se7enone> bob2: no idea what that means
[11:51] <aptloverg> bob2: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 was spose to be good so i added them
[11:51] <NightLord> hmm.. i updated, but it still says firefox 1.02
[11:51] <tim_> i have a file i need encrypted. anyone know how i can do this?
[11:51] <bob2> se7enone: perhaps theyre programs you could use?
[11:51] <se7enone> Computer_Guru: Good idea. why didn't i think of that? :)
[11:51] <bob2> NightLord: yes, ubutu fixes issues in the shipped version, not by just adding a new one
[11:52] <thoreauputic> bob2: NightLord has crash problems, just wondered if the recent ff is safe?
[11:52] <Computer__Guru> se7enone: i dont know, it was the first thing i thought of :)
[11:52] <Seveas> aptloverg, the ones on that side are a complete list, you should not add them, but use JUST them
[11:52] <pluffsy> hello
[11:52] <NightLord> when i try to view my history
[11:52] <se7enone> will synaptic be able to add a cd with only .deb file on?
[11:52] <bob2> se7enone: no
[11:52] <daves> Computer_Guru: thast's why i thought GTdial was but it shits it self on me (wont dial out), even tried using it with wvdial with no luck)
[11:52] <Seveas> tim_, you can use gpg for that :)
[11:52] <bob2> se7enone: hence, use apt-zip or debian-cd to make cds it can use
[11:53] <daves> tim_: how did you get on with the 2nd hd ?
[11:53] <Computer__Guru> se7enone: i dont know, but you can open that folder in a shell, and type dpkg -i name_of_deb_file.deb
[11:53] <se7enone> bob2: have a windows machine at work, any alternatives?
[11:53] <pluffsy> what application and protocol shall I use for audio chatting with my friends? It needs to work on mac and linux (windows support is  neat to, but I don't need it), It also needs to be free, I don't want to support a closed standard like Skype.
[11:53] <linukso> pluffsy: gnomemeeting
[11:54] <bob2> Computer__Guru: the ubuntu archive is currently 91GB
[11:54] <pluffsy> linukso: what software is used for taking to gnomemeeting people on the mac?
[11:54] <bob2> se7enone: so, go look at those two packages, and note that one of them runs on windows
[11:54] <Computer__Guru> bob2: all he said was he wanted everything
[11:54] <tim_> 2nd hd?
[11:54] <Computer__Guru> maybe he wants to be a mirror :D
[11:54] <linukso> pluffsy: hm, not shure, but I am shure there is several. gnomemeeting supports several standards
[11:55] <se7enone> Computer_Guru: cant be a mirror, only have internet connection at work - a windows machine. Need ubuntu software at home
[11:55] <daves> tim_: might have been a tom_ or tom
[11:55] <coobra> Irssi uptime: 57d 14h 44m 47s
[11:55] <coobra> opps wrong
[11:55] <pluffsy> linukso: alright. I'm hoping there are some good free software that can talk to gnomemeeting on the mac, because of the screen shots gnomemeeting looks great. thanks. I'll look into it.
[11:55] <Computer__Guru> se7enone: what bob2 said then
[11:55] <aptloverg> Seveas: oh do u mean its a list of wait is allready in source.1st ?
[11:56] <se7enone> alrighty...
[11:57] <aptloverg> Seveas: so its just a case of unhashing them in sources.1st ? not pasting them in?
[11:57] <pluffsy> does ubuntu work with blue tooth head sets?
[11:57] <Seveas> aptloverg, by default multiverse is not listed in sources.list
[11:57] <pluffsy> and does it take any complicated installation or is it just plug-in and it works?
[11:58] <Seveas> the list on the pastebin is a complete sources.list for hoary, you can replace the current contents of /etc/apt/sources.list with it
[11:58] <aptloverg> Seveas so i do have to add them?
[11:58] <daves> Computer_guru: got my old archiver ark on yupppieeee (good when something works when this have stuffed up preseviously) using the create launcher
[11:58] <thoreauputic> !repositories
[11:58] <ubotu> I heard repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:58] <thoreauputic> aptloverg: ^^^
[11:58] <aptloverg> k
[11:59] <Seveas> aptloverg, or simply: wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/pastebin.php?download=38 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:59] <Seveas> :)
[12:00] <bob2> pluffsy: yes, but most of them seem to be pretty crap
[12:01] <thoreauputic> Seveas: would that work withour sudo? I can't see how... ?
[12:01] <thoreauputic> *without
[12:01] <pluffsy> bob2: the support on ubuntu or just bad audio quality in the actual hardware?
[12:01] <Seveas> thoreauputic, it won't :)
[12:01] <bob2> hardware
[12:01] <pluffsy> right...
[12:01] <thoreauputic> Seveas: OK - as I thought ;)
[12:01] <Linux_Galore> :-)
[12:02] <Computer__Guru> Linux_Galore: hai, fscker
[12:02] <aptloverg> Seveas: great! ill overwrite that my soures.list with the one you spefied :)
[12:02] <aptloverg> chears
[12:02] <thoreauputic> Linux_Galore: tweak its BIOS and change the boot order ;-)
[12:02] <Linux_Galore> lol
[12:02] <Computer__Guru> Linux_Galore: (x_umop_episdn_x on yahoo)
[12:02] <Computer__Guru> <--
[12:03] <Computer__Guru> sometimes as Jay316
[12:03] <Linux_Galore> make it tick backwards and download porn...now there's a real geek watch
[12:03] <Linux_Galore> Computer__Guru: you on gaim like me
[12:04] <aptloverg> thoreauputic, thanks for pointing out the how to :D
[12:04] <Computer__Guru> gaim -v:
[12:04] <Computer__Guru> Gaim 1.4.0
[12:05] <thoreauputic> aptloverg: you're welcome :)
[12:05] <daves> othernoob: can you remember the file you suggested i remove from the deb file of OOo 106 ? (got down and installed but it's sitting in the local / obsolete status)
[12:05] <Linux_Galore> welcome to HP.....eeer we  eeer sell stuff
[12:06] <Computer__Guru> ATTENTION
[12:06] <Computer__Guru> I have a large penis
[12:06] <Computer__Guru> umm
[12:06] <Computer__Guru> I umm
[12:07] <Linux_Galore> Computer__Guru: this "I think its large" or "my mum says Im a big boy large"  or some chick you paid $150 to large
[12:07] <bob2> Linux_Galore: enough
[12:08] <Linux_Galore> bob2:  just me being funny......Aussie thing its called humour
[12:08] <bob2> yes, I was born here
[12:08] <GreenmanX> Seveas: ok...it wont work...but i keep on trying...thanks for your help...bye
[12:08] <Linux_Galore> born here?? as in this irc chat room
[12:08] <bob2> Linux_Galore: as in .au
[12:09] <Linux_Galore> aaah
[12:09] <Linux_Galore> bob2: shame on you
[12:09] <thoreauputic> Linux_Galore: hey - no flies on bob2 ;)
[12:09] <Linux_Galore> lol
[12:11] <Linux_Galore> ouch new AMD64 will have 1207 pins
[12:12] <Linux_Galore> more pins than an Indian guru's bed
[12:12] <thoreauputic> hard to find in a 64 bit haystack
[12:12] <daves> Linux_galore: na the indians will be leaving india for us 'cause of the beds
[12:13] <Linux_Galore> I can imagine some old guy in india going.....pfft these young people......they sleep on these soft beds.....in my day we had nails for a matress
[12:14] <Computer___Guru> I'm going to bed
[12:14] <Computer___Guru> g'night all
[12:14] <Linux_Galore> l8ter
[12:14] <thoreauputic> Linux_Galore: nails? pfft - luxury!
[12:14] <Computer___Guru> and next time at least let me deliver the punch line before you gag me :D
[12:14] <Computer___Guru> peace
[12:15] <Computer__Guru> heh, g'night
[12:15] <Linux_Galore> Computer__Guru: clear skies and far plains
[12:15] <Computer__Guru> long days and pleasant nights
[12:15] <Computer__Guru> say thankya
[12:15] <bob2> Computer__Guru: next time it will be permanent
[12:15] <Computer__Guru> bob2: aight man
[12:15] <Computer__Guru> it reallyw as funny though :D
[12:15] <daves> Computer_Guru: still here ? (thought you were off to bed
[12:15] <Computer__Guru> daves: for a min
[12:15] <Computer__Guru> oh
[12:16] <Computer__Guru> i am
[12:16] <Computer__Guru> pfft
[12:16] <daves> sure
[12:16] <othernoob> daves.. yes, remove testtool.deb
[12:16] <Linux_Galore> me going to bed is grabbing my Zaurus and exporting my chat client to my pda lol
[12:16] <daves> othernoob: thnx for theat i'll give it a go now :)
[12:17] <othernoob> yw
[12:17] <daves> Linux_Galore: keep it clean (or is it my mind) :0
[12:18] <Linux_Galore> daves: ??
[12:18] <Linux_Galore> daves: Im too old to worry about sucj stuff
[12:18] <Linux_Galore> such*
[12:18] <daves> ya me too wife keeps smacking me off her
[12:18] <cafuego> muaha ... muaha ... MUAHAHA!
[12:19] <Seveas> ehrm
[12:19] <Seveas> people, can we please stay on topic...
[12:20] <Linux_Galore> Im on "Ubuntu" subject as you can "Ubuntu" see
[12:20] <stjepan> aloha
[12:20] <stjepan> hello
[12:20] <stjepan> I have Ubuntu Linux
[12:20] <stjepan> and I have ADSL
[12:20] <stjepan> downloading is very fast
[12:20] <stjepan> it is ok
[12:20] <Seveas> stjepan, that's impossible :)
[12:20] <stjepan> but surfing is very slow
[12:20] <daves> God the default file manager is a pain!
[12:20] <stjepan> Seveas: what?
[12:21] <cafuego> stjepan: Don't get the computer wet!
[12:21] <Seveas> stjepan, do dns lookups take a ling time in firefox?
[12:21] <daves> anyone suggest an alternative
[12:21] <stjepan> Seveas: probably
[12:21] <cafuego> daves: apt-cache search file manager
[12:21] <daves> getting sick of windows poping up alover the place, reminds of ie???
[12:21] <Seveas> stjepan, if so, you can do something about it
[12:21] <Seveas> stjepan: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.
[12:21] <Linux_Galore> hmm always use Konqueror as a file manager
[12:22] <Seveas> daves, you can let nautilus behave like the win. file manager
[12:22] <stjepan> Seveas: I tried with much browser
[12:22] <Seveas> just enable 'always open in browser windows'
[12:22] <thoreauputic> daves: under prefs, change to "always open as browser" or whatever
[12:22] <Seveas> stjepan, in a terminal try: time dig ubuntu.com
[12:22] <cafuego> stjepan: Do you know if your ISP might have a transparent web proxy?
[12:22] <stjepan> no
[12:22] <stjepan> just a minute
[12:22] <stjepan> I am in windows
[12:23] <stjepan> please stand by
[12:23] <stjepan> I am going into Ubuntu
[12:24] <daves> Seveas: was using kde  konquorer, now in gnome ubuntu, default setup (programs in default mode) me not impressed with some aspects
[12:24] <tanki> How's quicktime support progressing in linux?
[12:24] <Seveas> tanki, it's quite allright
[12:24] <cafuego> tanki: via w32codecs you can play QTs on ia32
[12:24] <aptloverg> Seveas: um
[12:25] <cafuego> tanki: if you have a PPC you're out of luck.
[12:25] <aptloverg>  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/pastebin.php?download=38
[12:25] <tanki> cafuego, yeah that's true
[12:25] <aptloverg> is that what you use?
[12:25] <cafuego> and on AMD64 it pretends it works, but really doesn't.
[12:26] <daves> thoreauptic: it's the fact that every time you go to another dir it loads another window ... messy after a while
[12:26] <aptloverg> Seveas: there are some "amendments" on the  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/pastebin.php?download=38 page are they better:?
[12:26] <aptloverg> why are they there?
[12:26] <Seveas> aptloverg, they are there because people made mistakes :)
[12:26] <thoreauputic> daves: indeed - i use the rox filer here: but the browser mode of nautilus is OK
[12:26] <Seveas> byt /38 is the good one
[12:26] <tanki> Welp, while this isn't exactly ubuntu related, it meets the second best criteria.. geekdom, so check it out, it's a weekly videozine about techy stuff hosted by a girl heh.. http://www.podcastalley.com/podcast_details.php?pod_id=5637
[12:26] <cafuego> daves: it does? Mine uses the same window when I navigate, unless I navigate FROM the main window.
[12:27] <aptloverg> Seveas: so which one is the most revised?
[12:27] <stjepan> hi
[12:27] <stjepan> I am back
[12:27] <stjepan> Seveac
[12:27] <Seveas> aptloverg, /38
[12:27] <tanki> and naturally, it's very open source friendly (content/editorial wise)
[12:27] <daves> thoreaupituc: i use firefox for browsing
[12:27] <thoreauputic> daves: erm - you misunderstood
[12:27] <cafuego> Aha! So Seveas keeps spamming the -users list! ;-)
[12:28] <Seveas> cafuego, ..?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> daves: the browser mode of nautilus is a file management mode
[12:28] <stjepan> Seveas: what in firefox?
[12:28] <stjepan> about:config
[12:28] <stjepan> and then...?
[12:28] <Seveas> stjepan: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.
[12:28] <daves> cafuego: it doesn't matter if i start from home dir or anyother place up pops another window / instance
[12:28] <cafuego> Seveas: thanks for unwittingly helping me debug gpg/enigmail btw ;-)
[12:29] <daves> thoreauputic: so what state is it by default after installation ??
[12:29] <thoreauputic> daves: edit preferences behaviour "open in browser windows"
[12:29] <drcode> how I can run real players movies in firefox?
[12:29] <stjepan> Seveas: surfing is still slow :(
[12:29] <daves> thoreauputic: 'cause that's the way it is now , will try it now.
[12:29] <thoreauputic> daves: the default is "ubuntu spatial" or something
[12:29] <drcode> I Have mozilla-player and realtime player installed
[12:30] <cafuego> daves: Odd. You on hoary?
[12:30] <aptloverg> Seveas: so the fact that i've delete my old source.lst with like the ubntu cd repo now delete is fine?
[12:30] <daves> drcode: someone already asked that, iirc the reply was suspect / H/W issue
[12:30] <aptloverg> (and im happy with online repos if I don't need it)
[12:31] <drcode> mybe its me
[12:31] <daves> cafuego: no on warty
[12:31] <drcode> but what someone said didnt work
[12:31] <drcode> it give me black window
[12:31] <Linux_Galore> drcode: in firefox goto  Edit->Properties->Downloads  then just add the extensions
[12:31] <drcode> rl ?
[12:31] <cafuego> daves: Then the default behaviour might have changed. (Don't upgrade!)
[12:32] <thoreauputic> daves: warty had the old spatial mode
[12:32] <cafuego> daves: Actually, I'm on breezy, dunno how hoary does it...
[12:32] <thoreauputic> daves: change to browser mode as above
[12:32] <Seveas> stjepan, what are the last 3 lines of output from: time dig ubuntu.com
[12:32] <stjepan> Seveas: so?
[12:32] <drcode> there is no real player plug in there
[12:32] <drcode> strang
[12:33] <stjepan> Seveas:
[12:33] <stjepan> real    0m0.233s
[12:33] <stjepan> user    0m0.005s
[12:33] <stjepan> sys     0m0.008s
[12:33] <Seveas> hmm
[12:33] <cafuego> that's prolly cached
[12:33] <stjepan> is it ok?
[12:34] <tanki> cafuego, how's breezy holding up to the cafuego grind test
[12:34] <stjepan> Seveas: what?
[12:34] <daves> drcode: think your wrong but stand to be corrected, i remember finding a plug-in a wee while ago (mind it was under winders).
[12:34] <Seveas> stjepan, it is
[12:34] <tanki> cafuego, be honest, it's not easy being your computer :)
[12:34] <Linux_Galore> drcode: means it not in ~/.mozilla
[12:34] <stjepan> Seveas: it is what? it is OK?
[12:34] <cafuego> tanki: if you don't mind error boxes all over the shop at bootup, and synaptic typing to remove evolution whenever you update, it seems to work OK.
[12:34] <drcode> so what I miss here?
[12:34] <Linux_Galore> drcode: or your default mozilla/plugins  directory
[12:34] <cafuego> s/typing/trying/
[12:35] <Seveas> stjepan, yes
[12:35] <stjepan> links browser works very good
[12:35] <Seveas> drcode: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[12:35] <stjepan> it says  35 kb/s
[12:35] <drcode> thanx man
[12:35] <stjepan> what is wrong with firefox and seamonkey?
[12:35] <concept10> How do you go about removing an application from the update list.  Say for example if I dont want update a kernel?
[12:35] <tanki> cafuego, no really tell us what you really think :P
[12:35] <daves> thoreauputic: little bugge rcouldn't see the box for the holes :)
[12:36] <Seveas> stjepan, if you disabled ipv6 it should work faster
[12:36] <funky> seamonkey or greasymonkey ?
[12:36] <aptloverg> Seveas: so the fact that i've delete my old source.lst with like the ubntu cd repo now delete is fine?
[12:36] <cafuego> stjepan: Try about:config again and increase the number in network.http.max-connections and network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server
[12:36] <Seveas> aptloverg, yes
[12:36] <aptloverg> ok
[12:37] <cafuego> stjepan: Mine are on 32 and 10 respectively.
[12:37] <daves> thoreauputic: now it does LOOK like the ms ie.
[12:37] <stjepan> Seveas: it works just a bit faster
[12:37] <aptloverg> and can I put my contry suffix at the front of the urls?
[12:37] <aptloverg> or some of them
[12:37] <stjepan> Seveas: but still very slow
[12:37] <thoreauputic> daves: frankly I prefer the rox filer so I hardly ever use nautilus
[12:37] <tanki> cafuego, in all seriousness, are you actively developing or submitting bug reports for breezy or are you just running it because you're a sadist; or all of the above? :)
[12:38] <thoreauputic> tanki: did you mean masochist?
[12:38] <stjepan> :(
[12:38] <concept10> cafuego, what do you have your max connections set at?
[12:38] <hondje> grrr
[12:38] <cafuego> tanki: I'm running it because I wanted some features that aren't in hoary. Can't even remember what that was, now :-)
[12:38] <stjepan> :'(
[12:38] <cafuego> concept10: 32
[12:38] <hondje> I hate it when a paper says "It easily follows that..."
[12:38] <aptloverg> Seveas: and can I put my contry suffix at the front of the urls?
[12:38] <hondje> It never easily follows
[12:38] <aptloverg> (last question)
[12:39] <thoreauputic> stjepan: did you disable ipv6 in about:config ?
[12:39] <Seveas> aptloverg, you can
[12:39] <aptloverg> all of the,m?
[12:39] <cafuego> tanki: Mind you, I've been running Debian boxes for YEARS and can manage to fix problems on my own.
[12:39] <tanki> thoreauputic, no because if he got a boner off breezy, i wouldn't be talking to him, atleast not without protection
[12:39] <daves> thorauputic: does it do tabs ?
[12:39] <concept10> cafuego, what about pipelining
[12:39] <stjepan> Seveas: apt-get works great
[12:39] <cafuego> concept10: default, disabled.
[12:39] <stjepan> 43% [3 libgtk1.2 345750/842kB 41%]                                  40.6kB/s 21s
[12:39] <concept10> cafuego, why disabled?
[12:40] <stjepan> Seveas: you see that it is 40.6 kB/s
[12:40] <cafuego> concept10: 's the default.
[12:40] <thoreauputic> daves: does what do tabs? neither nautilus nor rox do
[12:40] <thoreauputic> afaik
[12:40] <cafuego> netowkr.http.pipelining default boolean disabled
[12:40] <concept10> cafuego, have you not tried to set that one?  That also increases speed, if that is what you are trying to accomplish
[12:41] <cafuego> concept10: No, that's not what i'm trying to accomplish. stjepan says his firefox is slow. mine's fine.
[12:41] <tanki> cafuego, no doubt but just remember if you fix something that isn't niche, remember to let the respective ubuntu developer know -- granted irc help is good but i think there's more ground when you mingle w/ the developers
[12:41] <stjepan> Seveas: now I will try dillo browser
[12:41] <stjepan> DNS solving www.programiranje.net ...
[12:41] <cafuego> tanki: No, no. It's normally depends that need overriding or a temporary equivs package or somesuch.
[12:41] <stjepan> hm
[12:41] <daves> thoreauptic: Oh i thought you like the rox file 'cause it did do tabbing. I prefer tabbing now saves some mucking around at times
[12:41] <tanki> ah
[12:42] <cafuego> tanki: I'm not such a bastard that I'll make ubuntu devs start fixing code in say evolution ;-)
[12:42] <tanki> heehee
[12:42] <thoreauputic> daves: I like rox because it's configurable, quick and has a built in commandline feature i use a lot
[12:43] <stjepan> :'(
[12:43] <stjepan> I am the sadest man in the world
[12:44] <daves> thoreauputic: far enough :) , never know i might stumble across it and like it ...
[12:44] <stjepan> :(
[12:44] <stjepan> so?
[12:44] <stjepan> have you any idea?
[12:46] <concept10> Anyone know how to 'forget' about updates you dont want to include?
[12:46] <Crawl> How do i update my kernel in Ubuntu linux ?
[12:46] <tanki> I was watching a television show on hbo the other night called Oz and heard an interesting paradox about the internet of all things
[12:46] <Crawl> is there any site with howto file ?
[12:46] <thoreauputic> concept10: if you use aptitude you can do " aptitude hold <package> "
[12:46] <Seveas> Crawl, with apt-get upgrade :)
[12:47] <tanki> something along the lines of how the internet allows us all to communicate better yet those that spend so much time on it are isolationists
[12:47] <Crawl> Seveas : what do i need to type in apt-get , ?
[12:47] <Seveas> tanki, hmm, how true :)
[12:47] <Seveas> Crawl, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[12:47] <tanki> i just woke up, it's almost 7am here so i'm a little offtopic
[12:48] <Crawl> Seveas :  this will fetch and compile a new kernel for me ?
[12:48] <stjepan> Seveas: is the problem with my DNSs?
[12:48] <Seveas> Crawl, no, it will download and install the latest ubuntu kernel
[12:48] <Crawl> Seveas : how do i boot from my new kernel < and configure it ?
[12:48] <stjepan> Seveas: or /etc/resolv.conf?
[12:48] <Seveas> stjepan, well .2 is a bit slow, but not terribly
[12:48] <concept10> thoreauputic, I am talking about with the Ubuntu update manager.  For example, I dont want to see the linux kernel update anymore in the list because I wont use it.
[12:48] <Seveas> Crawl, apt-get will install it and update the grub config
[12:48] <tanki> stjepan, do you know how old /etc/resolv.conf is?
[12:48] <daves> wel nite all.  soccer in morning with wee son in toe, me coach he plays :)
[12:48] <stjepan> Seveas: what ".2"?
[12:48] <tanki> I meant, /etc/hosts
[12:48] <Seveas> stjepan, try: time wget kaarsemaker.net -O /dev/null
[12:49] <Crawl> Seveas  ;thanks :) , and how do i config my modules as in lsmod ?
[12:49] <Seveas> stjepan, the time the dns lookup took was .2 seconds :)
[12:49] <Crawl> Seveas : i dont need all of them to work
[12:49] <Seveas> Crawl, /etc/modules
[12:49] <stjepan> Seveas: real    0m1.141s
[12:49] <stjepan> user    0m0.017s
[12:49] <stjepan> sys     0m0.009s
[12:49] <Crawl> Seveas  ; thx :)
[12:49] <Seveas> hotplug loads only the modules you need
[12:49] <tanki> ./etc/hosts dates back to the days before dns was invented
[12:50] <Seveas> stjepan, that's fast
[12:50] <tanki> when only a handful of pc's shared the net
[12:50] <tanki> there's a lot of history in all our ubuntu systems :P
[12:50] <Seveas> stjepan, your browser is slow, try another and look how much time it takes to load paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:50] <Seveas> that should be fast
[12:50] <stjepan> tanki
[12:50] <stjepan> it says hosts modified Fri 22 Jul 2005 11:17:42 AM CEST
[12:50] <thoreauputic> tanki: /etc/hosts is still useful (eg for ad blocking and locally)
[12:50] <Seveas> tanki, /etc/hosts is used a lot...
[12:50] <Seveas> tanki, for sudoers for instance
[12:50] <Seveas> tanki, or nis
[12:51] <stjepan> Seveas: how do you know that my browser is slow?
[12:51] <stjepan> slow is surfing
[12:51] <tanki> thoreauputic, before ad blocking proxies and advanced webbrowsers i would agree with you
[12:51] <Crawl> Seveas  :hotplug runs by default on ubuntu ?
[12:51] <stjepan> Seveas: it doesn't matter what browser is
[12:51] <Seveas> Crawl, of course :)
[12:51] <stjepan> Seveas: just surfing is slow
[12:51] <Crawl> Seveas  : i need a 2.4 kernel
[12:51] <stjepan> and I use seamonkey
[12:52] <Crawl> Seveas  : apt-get will fetch 2.4 for me ?
[12:52] <Seveas> Crawl, why on earth?
[12:52] <Hyuma> hi all
[12:52] <stjepan> Seveas: seamonkey is the fastest browser I have seen
[12:52] <Hyuma> I've question
[12:52] <cafuego> stjepan: What kind of CPU do you have and how much ram?
[12:52] <Hyuma> I've download ubuntu 5.04
[12:52] <Hyuma> for ppc
[12:52] <Crawl> Seveas : i want to learn kernel modules coding on 2.4
[12:52] <Hyuma> but the cd don't boot
[12:52] <Seveas> Ubuntu is designed around 2.6 and a lot of the infrastructure of the system uses 2.6
[12:52] <thoreauputic> tanki: well even using adblock etc, I use /etc/hosts on my local network (it's static IPs and only 3 machines)
[12:52] <Seveas> 2.4 is outdated
[12:52] <stjepan> cafuego: ram is 384
[12:52] <stjepan> look
[12:52] <cafuego> Hyuma: What ppc do you have?
[12:52] <stjepan> I have also Windwos xp
[12:52] <Hyuma> ibook g4
[12:52] <Seveas> if you want to learn module programming, learn it for the current kernel...
[12:53] <stjepan> and in windows xp I use WLAN
[12:53] <stjepan> and it works perfect
[12:53] <Seveas> stjepan, how much swap do you have?
[12:53] <cafuego> Hyuma: Can you check the md5 checksum on the cd and ithe iso against the one listed on the web/ftp site?
[12:53] <stjepan> Seveas: 1GB
[12:53] <Whistler> hi all
[12:53] <Whistler> =] 
[12:53] <Crawl> Seveas : my ubuntu runs on 2.6.10  - how do i swap on 2.6 with apt-get in ubuntu ?
[12:53] <Hyuma> sorry cafuego
[12:53] <Hyuma> I haven't more the iso
[12:53] <Hyuma> but wait
[12:53] <Whistler> !packages
[12:53] <ubotu> packages is probably http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:53] <Seveas> Crawl, what do you mean..?
[12:53] <cafuego> Hyuma: That's ok, just compare the checksum of the cd.
[12:54] <stjepan> Seveas: but surfing is slow also with slax and other distros
[12:54] <Crawl> Seveas : i want to have 2 kernel builds , for me to swap
[12:54] <Hyuma> cafuego how?
[12:54] <Crawl> Seveas : 2.6 and 2.10
[12:54] <cafuego> Hyuma: Running osx?
[12:54] <Seveas> Crawl, 2.10 does not exist...
[12:54] <Hyuma> not now
[12:54] <Crawl> Seveas : 2.6.10
[12:54] <stjepan> Seveas: I tried with links browser
[12:54] <Crawl> Seveas : sorry
[12:54] <Hyuma> I'm in windows pc
[12:54] <Crawl> Seveas : im tired :P
[12:54] <Hyuma> osx
[12:54] <Hyuma> don't read ubunt cd
[12:55] <stjepan> Seveas: it is much more faster that mozilla
[12:55] <tanki> Hyuma, yeah cafuego is right, you should always check the md5sum of the file and make sure the string matches what's in the md5sum.txt on the site you downloaded the iso from, a simple byte or two offset can cause you a world of hurt when it's time to install
[12:55] <stjepan> Seveas: but it is slower that normal speed
[12:55] <Crawl> Seveas : k nvm thanks :] 
[12:55] <cafuego> if OSX didn't read it at all, the CD or the ISO is damaged.
[12:55] <Hyuma> :(
[12:55] <tanki> Hyuma, search for md5sum.exe
[12:55] <Hyuma> give me an error osx
[12:55] <Hyuma> ok
[12:55] <cafuego> Hyuma: Can you redownload it?
[12:56] <Hyuma> give a me seure link
[12:56] <Hyuma> please
[12:56] <Hyuma> for ppc
[12:56] <Hyuma> a link that you know and that the iso was right
[12:56] <Seveas> http://releases.ubuntu.com
[12:56] <stjepan> Seveas: what browser do you use?
[12:56] <Seveas> FX
[12:56] <RQ> Hyuma:
[12:57] <Whistler> what the evoliution package name?
[12:57] <RQ> if you're taking about hoary CD's then i'm sure they're OK on Lithuanian server :)
[12:57] <Hyuma> Seveas can I take this: http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-powerpc.iso
[12:57] <Seveas> Hyuma, yes
[12:57] <stjepan> Seveas: FX? what is that browser?
[12:57] <Hyuma> thanks
[12:57] <cafuego> Hyuma: ... once fetched, you should be able to just burn it using disk utility
[12:57] <Seveas> stjepan, FirefoX
[12:57] <stjepan> :)
[12:57] <stjepan> aha
[12:57] <stjepan> and you use adsl?
[12:58] <Seveas> Whistler, evolution
[12:58] <Seveas> stjepan, yes
[12:58] <Hyuma> cafuego can i burn that iso with nero?
[12:58] <Seveas> well, mostly
[12:58] <stjepan> now apt works 44 kB/s
[12:58] <cafuego> Hyuma: Yep
[12:58] <Seveas> somtimes university wlan
[12:58] <stjepan> :)
[12:58] <Hyuma> ok I re-download the iso
[12:58] <stjepan> Seveas: and how did you configure adsl?
[12:58] <Hyuma> than the mds5sum to check
[12:58] <Hyuma> where is it?
[12:59] <stjepan> Seveas: with System > Administration > Networking?
[12:59] <cafuego> Hyuma: scroll down on the releases website, there is a link called MD5SUMS
[12:59] <Hyuma> si this:
[12:59] <Hyuma> http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/MD5SUMS ???
[12:59] <tanki> cafuego, i have a hidden suspicion an admin on my isp is bouncing me at will
[12:59] <Whistler> so why i cant admin@Linux:~ $ sudo apt-get remove evoliution
[12:59] <Seveas> hyphenated, yes
[12:59] <Seveas> Hyuma*
[12:59] <cafuego> tanki: Sorry, I'll stop it.
[12:59] <thoreauputic> Whistler: spelling
[12:59] <Seveas> stjepan, my router handles adsl, I simply use dhcp on my pc's
[12:59] <cafuego> Whistler: because you mistyped it. It has no 'i' in it.
[12:59] <stjepan> Seveas: DHCP?
[12:59] <tanki> cafuego, all my active connections will be cut but only for less than a second, it has to be a bounce
[01:00] <Crawl> Seveas : k, ive done apt-get && and such
[01:00] <Whistler> oh thx
[01:00] <Whistler> =] 
[01:00] <Seveas> stjepan, simply local network...
[01:00] <Crawl> Seveas : so now i need to reboot to have a new kernel ?
[01:00] <stjepan> Seveas: what have you changed in about:config?
[01:00] <Seveas> Crawl, if it installed a nw kernel: yes
[01:00] <Seveas> stjepan, only the dns ipv6 thingy
[01:00] <tanki> cafuego, i'm wondering if there's a way i can report it without losing the guy on the phone heh
[01:00] <Crawl> Seveas : what do i need to type to instal new kernel ?
[01:00] <cafuego> tanki: is your network card busted?
[01:00] <tanki> cafuego, nope
[01:01] <tanki> cafuego, service was fine until this week, then i started to get bounced, i definately believe it's on the isp level not my end
[01:01] <Seveas> Crawl, I don't mean to discourage you or flame on you, but if you don't know these simple things you should think twice before starting krenel programming...
[01:01] <tanki> i dont lose connectivity or anything, i just get my connections severed once an hour or so
[01:01] <thoreauputic> Crawl: if you *needed* a kernel update, apt-get dist-upgrade would have installed one - you would reboot into the new kernel
[01:02] <Crawl> Seveas  :  i know what im doing
[01:02] <tanki> i have been sharing/uploading legal torrents more often, maybe now they think i'm a p2p whore
[01:02] <Hyuma> ok guys thanks all! I'll che the file when finished
[01:02] <thoreauputic> Crawl: hrm - really ?
[01:02] <Crawl> Seveas : i will be coding modules
[01:02] <Hyuma> thanks a lot for the info :D
[01:02] <Crawl> Seveas : so i think my system will be safe
[01:02] <Seveas> Crawl, not reall
[01:03] <Seveas> modules can trash your system just as much...
[01:03] <tanki> cafuego, it's just hard to deal with a bofh at the isp level heh
[01:03] <Proteque_> is there a command to show the resolution X is running in?
[01:03] <stjepan> ko
[01:03] <stjepan> Seveas: what about your DNSs?
[01:03] <stjepan> have you configured it?
[01:03] <stjepan> or just DHCP and that's it?
[01:03] <Crawl> Seveas : i want too fool around with modules and strace , i wont trash my system
[01:03] <cafuego> tanki: do you have cable with dhcp?
[01:04] <tanki> yeah
[01:04] <Seveas> stjepan, just DHCP indeed
[01:04] <cafuego> tanki: I bet it's a delay in the lease renew
[01:04] <Seveas> ehm...
[01:04] <stjepan> ok
[01:04] <tanki> but nothing in logs show leases getting renewed and stuff
[01:04] <Seveas> you can't strace modules...
[01:04] <stjepan> guys
[01:04] <cafuego> tanki: odd
[01:04] <phixion> anyone know why i get so many errors with azuerus when i start it up? the update window pops up and i get errors :/
[01:04] <stjepan> Seveas: I will try that now
[01:04] <tanki> cafuego, that's why i firmly believe i'm being messed with by the admin heh
[01:04] <Crawl> thoreauputic: thnx
[01:04] <tanki> or if not me, my grid
[01:05] <merc> if i dont want gdm to start when i start the computer -- can i just remove the S13gdm file from /etc/rc2.d/ directory?
[01:05] <tanki> usually about once an hour
[01:05] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how can i change my MSN nick in gaim?
[01:05] <phixion> good torrent client for ubuntu that doesnt spam me with errors issss? (one with up and down limiter)
[01:06] <Seveas> LuNaTiK^GuY, tools->account actions->set friendly name
[01:06] <cafuego> tanki: a cron job is making your life hell
[01:06] <hhurtta> phixion: try azureus
[01:06] <tanki> not any of my jobs
[01:06] <LuNaTiK^GuY> 10q
[01:06] <dawkirst> Hello people.
[01:07] <hhurtta> hello dawkirst
[01:07] <tanki> heck, this even happens when i have windows up
[01:07] <phixion> I am using azureus, when it start it up it spams me with errors, and it does it whilst im using it too...
[01:07] <dawkirst> I'm looking to emulate a dead, plain, simple Windows application...any idea how I can do this?
[01:07] <hhurtta> phixion: what errors
[01:07] <merc> phixion: gnome-bittorrent
[01:07] <Crawl> Seveas :uname -m says im in i686 and my kern is 2.6.10-5-386 , how do i change this ?
[01:08] <Seveas> Crawl, install the linux-686 package
[01:08] <cafuego> phixion: btdownloadcurses --help
[01:08] <phixion> well an update box pops up in the bottom corner when i start it, and i get some error from that (dont remember what it says) then i get errors every now and then in the bottom right hand corner, ill let u know when they pop up again
[01:08] <phixion> cafuego and merc, you can't cap download speed with them right?
[01:08] <Crawl> Seveas : what do i need to type in apt-get to do this ?
[01:08] <Whistler> what kind of filesystem i should use for home partition?
[01:08] <Seveas> apt-get install linux-686
[01:09] <tanki> launch the gui through a term so you can see stderr in real time
[01:09] <Seveas> Whistler, ext3 is the default
[01:09] <Crawl> Seveas : isee
[01:09] <hhurtta> phixion: are you using right java version?
[01:09] <phixion> i dloaded jre1.5
[01:09] <dawkirst> I'm looking to emulate a dead, plain, simple Windows application...any idea how I can do this?
[01:09] <phixion> then when installing azureus it made me install some other java stuff
[01:09] <hhurtta> ok
[01:09] <tanki> dawkirst, my generic answer would be through wine
[01:09] <hhurtta> it shouldn't...
[01:10] <Crawl> Seveas : is there high memory support enabled by default in kernel ?
[01:10] <phixion> well actually it tried to install them but couldnt, i did apt-get -f install azureus to fix it
[01:10] <phixion> maybe i shouldnt have dloaded them
[01:10] <Whistler> can i create new partition and use it for home directory ?
[01:10] <Seveas> Crawl, of course
[01:10] <Seveas> we don't live in 95 anymore
[01:10] <cafuego> phixion: Hmm, doesn't look like it.
[01:10] <hhurtta> phixion: don't use apt version but one from azureus.sf.net
[01:10] <Crawl> Seveas : :>
[01:10] <phixion> is there anyway i can find out which packages were installed?
[01:10] <linukso> Highmem? As in >4gb :)
[01:11] <phixion> yeah im kinda new to linux though, I wouldnt know where to install it etc :/
[01:11] <merc> how can i prevent gdm from starting on powerup?
[01:11] <cafuego> phixion: 'dpkg -l' will list installed packages.
[01:11] <Seveas> merc, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[01:11] <cafuego> merc: install and run 'rcconf'
[01:11] <tanki> man if i had 4gb of memory i wouldn't even bother making a swap device heh
[01:11] <hhurtta> just dl azureus from that website and extract it in your homedir
[01:11] <dawkirst> tanki, I can't seem to download it through my synaptic. Should I search for it online?
[01:11] <Whistler> can i create new partition and use it for home directory ?
[01:11] <merc> thanks, i was afraid to go through the -f thing cuz of the 'force' word, it scares me :)
[01:11] <cafuego> Whistler: Yes.
[01:12] <Seveas> merc, -f just means: remove the symlinks even if the original still exists
[01:12] <merc> Seveas: thanks :)
[01:12] <Whistler> any tutorials how to do it?
[01:12] <merc> ah, still a skeery word :)
[01:12] <merc> brb
[01:12] <tanki> dawkirst, http://www.winehq.org/ i looked it up for you
[01:13] <dawkirst> tanki, ta man!
[01:13] <tanki> dawkirst, i'm not sure if it's in any repos but in the future, the main search page for mostly open source programs is freshmeat.net
[01:13] <JingleBells> is there anyway to use apt-get to install packages when it asks for the CD, without the CD?
[01:13] <Whistler> any tutorials for changing home partition?
[01:13] <bob2> JingleBells: remove the cd line from /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:14] <bob2> Whistler: copy data.  remount. enjoy!
[01:14] <Whistler> JingleBells or comment it with #
[01:14] <JingleBells> ah good, someone should invent a way of remotely inserting CDs
[01:14] <tanki> dawkirst, dont thank me, wine can be tricky and throw off even seasoned linux users
[01:14] <tanki> when it comes to configuring it and having it actually behave
[01:14] <dawkirst> tanki, will keep that in mind.
[01:14] <tanki> but good luck
[01:15] <dawkirst> ty
[01:15] <tanki> holy moly i'm turning into cafuego
[01:15] <JingleBells> excellent, its downloading, cheers :)
[01:15] <Whistler> i installed ubuntu in one partition  so my home is in the same as system
[01:15] <Whistler> so is it ok if i change my home partition?
[01:16] <bob2> Whistler: then make a new partition, copy everything over, and mount it on /home
[01:16] <tanki> howdy bob
[01:16] <dawkirst> tanki, cafuego?
[01:16] <Hyuma> guys how can i chek with md5sum a cd with burned iso?
[01:16] <cafuego> tanki: you wish
[01:16] <Hyuma> md5sum -c F:\ ?
[01:16] <tanki> dawkirst, yeah he's an experienced user in here who i see always helping someone
[01:16] <Hyuma> md5sum -c file.md5 F:\ ?
[01:16] <tanki> dawkirst, i think he does it to get away from his wife
[01:16] <tanki> but keep that between us, k
[01:16] <cafuego> tanki: i'm a bitter old sadist.
[01:17] <phixion> k i installed azureus from its homepage, when it start it an error appears "error loading plugin 'azupdater'
[01:17] <xliu> how to install c++ library?
[01:17] <bob2> xliu: which one?
[01:17] <kafeine> guys, i tried installing firefox1.0.6
[01:17] <bob2> best to not do that
[01:17] <kafeine> and now i can't seem to remove it
[01:17] <cafuego> xliu: they're called libstdc++-*
[01:17] <hhurtta> phixion: so you are running it like ./azureus
[01:17] <kafeine> and in synaptic, it's impossible to install mozilla-firefox now..
[01:17] <phixion> yeah hhurtta
[01:18] <hhurtta> hmm
[01:18] <phixion> switched to the dir
[01:18] <phixion> then ./azureus
[01:18] <phixion> basically im getting the windows update box appear
[01:18] <phixion> with .zip files in
[01:18] <joedou> i have a , when i login in ubuntu, there pops up a msgbox saying "Missing command to run" and my networkconfiguration also pops up, any id how i can fix this ?
[01:18] <phixion> and the errors appearing when that box pops up :(
[01:19] <kafeine> or at least, can someone tell me where should i be installing it?
[01:19] <hhurtta> phixion: so it tries to update immediately?
[01:19] <tWip> the latest Firefox update in Hoary seems to be broken (I had to start in safe mode to avoid core dumps), anyone know about that?
[01:19] <bob2> yes
[01:19] <Antinomy> just installed a dual-boot ubuntu/XP, Windows loads fine but Ubuntu freezes at the login screen. Any clues?
[01:19] <xliu> i want to complie a cpp file, and gcc said it could not find libraraies such as iostream
[01:20] <bob2> xliu: so, install build-essential
[01:20] <tanki> fine bob show me no luv
[01:20] <bob2> tanki: hi
[01:20] <phixion> yes hhurtta
[01:21] <pitti> anyone here who has problems with yesterday's firefox security update and wants to test an updated version?
[01:21] <hhurtta> so can't you just ignore it and make sure it won't try to update later
[01:21] <linuxboy> I have a user who is having troubles with OOo. If they don't set POSIX/C as their language on a login, it doesn't load. How do I fix this ?
[01:21] <bob2> tWip: there you go
[01:21] <hhurtta> should be found somewhere in the menu
[01:21] <Antinomy> just installed a dual-boot ubuntu/XP, Windows loads fine but Ubuntu freezes at the login screen. Any clues?
[01:21] <tWip> pitti, I can test it
[01:22] <tanki> Whistler, find /home -mount | cpio -pvdum /thenewhome then make the change in fstab, have a bootdisk ready if something goes wacky, if all is fine afterwards, you can safely rename it and delete the old home
[01:22] <bob2> Antinomy: define "freezes"
[01:22] <hhurtta> phixion: and also get rid of the apt-installed azureus if you haven't already
[01:22] <xliu> thanks bob2
[01:22] <phixion> yeah :)
[01:22] <tanki> bob, too late the damage is done
[01:22] <tanki> :)
[01:23] <Antinomy> bob2: I see the splash screen and the login box for user name. cursor flashes in there, but no input is accepted. THen cursor stops flashing. then after 5 minutes, the screen blanks out. the mouse pointer never moves throughout
[01:23] <Antinomy> bob2: loading from grub
[01:23] <bob2> Antinomy: does wiggling the mouse or hitting the kyboard wake up the monitor?
[01:23] <bob2> sure your hardware is ok?
[01:24] <Antinomy> no, not at all
[01:24] <Antinomy> bob2: no
[01:24] <tanki> just remember to stop hitting the keyboard
[01:24] <Antinomy> bob2: touchpad
[01:24] <tanki> :)
[01:24] <linuxboy> anybody help me ?
[01:24] <xoz> Antinomy: try boot in single-user
[01:24] <Antinomy> xoz: what does that mean?
[01:25] <xoz> Antinomy: init 1... pass S (single-user) in the ubuntu bootprompt.
[01:25] <Antinomy> xoz: in grub?
[01:26] <xoz> Antinomy: yep.
[01:26] <Antinomy> xoz: one sec...is that an option I can select?
[01:26] <tanki> i personally like the fonzi approach, wiggle the mouse and hit the keyboard until things work
[01:26] <omer> Hello
[01:26] <Antinomy> xoz: I have 3 kernels listed
[01:26] <Antinomy> xoz: and Winblows
[01:27] <xoz> Antinomy: maybe no. you have to go to the edit mode and pass that parameter
[01:27] <zerboxx> I'm having a really tough time getting my palm pilot to work, can anyone give me a hand please?
[01:27] <Antinomy> xoz: how do I do that? do you know?
[01:27] <omer> Can you help me with ATI tv card?
[01:27] <Antinomy> xoz: 'c' for command line?
[01:28] <xoz> Antinomy: in grub prompt, maybe e or c
[01:28] <tanki> tv-out means you can export your display/desktop to a television set right?
[01:28] <Antinomy> xoz: Ok, I'm at the grub commant line
[01:28] <tanki> or can it only go to an external monitor?
[01:28] <xoz> Antinomy: if your kernel name is ubuntu... use ubuntu S
[01:28] <tanki> do you know what i mean, omer
[01:28] <Antinomy> xoz: I'm at the command line. How do I use Ubuntu S?
[01:29] <xoz> Antinomy: you should know the name of your kernel to boot. <kernel name> S <return>
[01:30] <xoz> Antinomy: *[enter|return] 
[01:30] <omer> It not TV out
[01:30] <Antinomy> xoz: dig. one sec.
[01:30] <stjepan> hi
[01:30] <stjepan> Seveas
[01:30] <stjepan> I am shocked
[01:30] <omer> It TV card that let you watch TV on computer/Watch VIdeo on computer
[01:30] <Antinomy> xoz: side note - could this be happening because I loaded a x86 onto an AMD 64?
[01:30] <phixion> how do i view hidden directories from terminal? :po
[01:31] <toowoomba> ls -a
[01:31] <omer> Can you help me configure it?
[01:31] <phixion> thx
[01:31] <xoz> Antinomy: this will allow you to avoid loading most modules and X so that you can go to console. Antinomy it should be upward compat but not sure. i think it is Xserver problem.
[01:32] <Antinomy> xoz: ok let me try...
[01:32] <Antinomy> you should know the name of your kernel to boot. <kernel name> S <return>
[01:32] <omer> tanki: My problem is with xorg
[01:32] <tanki> omer, i dont own one i was just curious about how they work
[01:32] <xoz> Antinomy: most likely, X configuration problem
[01:33] <Antinomy> xoz: your command didnt work. do I need the brackets?
[01:33] <xoz> Antinomy: no.
[01:33] <omer> Well, That a qestion more on xorg than on TV card, tanki
[01:33] <stjepan> Seveas: hey
[01:33] <Antinomy> xoz: so syntax is Ubuntu, Kernel 2.6.10-5-386 S
[01:34] <stjepan> Seveas: look at this: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=7405
[01:34] <xoz> Antinomy: example* kernel-image-2.6.10 S
[01:34] <stjepan> it is impossible
[01:34] <stjepan> I am shocked
[01:35] <Antinomy> xoz: Unrecognized command.
[01:35] <xoz> Antinomy: what about 1 or init=/bin/bash
[01:35] <stjepan> Seveas: so?
[01:35] <Whistler> is there any way of stopping daemons from starting on boot up?
[01:35] <stjepan> ok
[01:35] <stjepan> http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=7405
[01:35] <bob2> Whistler: sure, remove the S symlink from /etc/rc2.d/
[01:35] <Antinomy> both unrecognized commands
[01:35] <xoz> Antinomy: use e to edit the boot option
[01:35] <stjepan> what is problem with that?
[01:36] <bob2> Whistler: or use rcconf
[01:36] <Antinomy> ok thanks
[01:36] <omer> Does anyone here understand in xorg?
[01:36] <Antinomy> Ok, I'm in edit mode in grub. Which should I pick?
[01:37] <xoz> Antinomy: just add it to the end of the other options
[01:37] <xoz> Antinomy: and press "g"... not sure
[01:37] <Antinomy> xoz: SO I'm going to open a new line?
[01:37] <Antinomy> xoz: ok
[01:38] <Antinomy> xoz: and the syntax again, xoz?
[01:39] <xoz> Antinomy: just add "S" or "1" or "init=/bin/bash" to the end of the line that contains your kernel
[01:39] <Antinomy> k
[01:39] <derda>   inflating: jre1.5.0_04/bin/java
[01:39] <Antinomy> xoz: done
[01:39] <derda> where is it on my local system?
[01:40] <xoz> Antinomy: or you can google "grub single-user"
[01:40] <Antinomy> xoz: no thanks, I'd rather talk to you
[01:40] <Antinomy> xoz: now I entered the S, do I go back to the main screen to boot?
[01:41] <xoz> Antinomy: ah, not S... type "single" then ... main screen... then b to boot
[01:41] <_omer_> I need help with xorg
[01:41] <xoz> Antinomy: substitute S with the word single. got it. S is for lilo.
[01:41] <Antinomy> xoz: got it. booting.
[01:42] <Antinomy> xoz: <fyi, I booted from the edit screen>
[01:42] <stjepan> so?
[01:42] <stjepan> hey
[01:42] <stjepan> where is Seveas?
[01:42] <xoz> Antinomy: if your comp hangs, then at least you know it's not X only :(
[01:42] <Antinomy> xoz: what if it just isnt seeing my keyboard?
[01:43] <Antinomy> xoz: yeah thats it I got a command line but no keys are coming up.
[01:43] <xoz> Antinomy: linux won't boot if your kb is not recognize AFAIK
[01:43] <xoz> *recognized
[01:43] <othernoob> does anyone use Opera8?
[01:43] <Antinomy> AFAIK?
[01:43] <othernoob> afaik=as far as i know
[01:43] <Whistler> i do
[01:43] <Whistler> use
[01:43] <Whistler> opera8
[01:43] <bob2> xoz: sure it will
[01:43] <Whistler> =] 
[01:44] <RQ> _omer_: ?
[01:44] <bob2> xoz: unless your bios whinges
[01:44] <CapSoft> othernoob try firefox
[01:44] <Antinomy> xoz: ok...what do I need to do to make it recognize it?
[01:44] <othernoob> CapSoft: no thank you, i prefer a good browser ;)
[01:44] <xoz> Antinomy: buy a new kb :)
[01:44] <CapSoft> as i said... firefox ;)
[01:44] <Antinomy> xoz: SO not funny.
[01:44] <othernoob> Whistler: is there a plugin for streaming media like wmv?
[01:44] <CapSoft> for mozilla there is
[01:44] <Whistler> othernoob srry but i dont know
[01:44] <CapSoft> as i said..... firefox is good :P
[01:44] <RQ> new keyb is always fun, Antinomy
[01:44] <RQ> ;)
[01:45] <othernoob> CapSoft: i know
[01:45] <CapSoft> mozilla-mplayer... or something...
[01:45] <Antinomy> Ubuntu: linux for humans with ALOT of spare time.
[01:45] <_omer_> I need edit xorg, and I have a problem there
[01:45] <othernoob> CapSoft: ignore my nickname okay?
[01:45] <xoz> Antinomy: strange that kb is not recognized. well, i would like to suggest you do certain commands but you have no kb... oh well.
[01:45] <RQ> _omer_: specify
[01:45] <CapSoft> lol k i will
[01:45] <RQ> hmmm what's the problem, xoz/Antinomy:
[01:45] <RQ> ?
[01:45] <Antinomy> xoz: Hey, thanks. back to Windows, then
[01:45] <xoz> Antinomy: try knoppix or other livecd and check if others work.
[01:46] <othernoob> CapSoft: the main reason why i asked is, that the mplayer plugin for firefox should work with opera as well, but it's not being recognized
[01:46] <james> I've got a fresh ubuntu64 install, and am having some problems getting the printer to work. It is a parallel port Samsung ML-1210. I try to print a Test page, it shows up in /var/spool/cups but it does not print.
[01:46] <xoz> Antinomy: are you using 2.6 kernel?
[01:46] <CapSoft> ow Antinomy how did it work out? your ubuntu install?
[01:46] <Antinomy> don't have time for this nonsense
[01:46] <_omer_> That part o my xorg:
[01:46] <Antinomy> cap:(
[01:46] <_omer_> Section "Device"
[01:46] <_omer_> 	Identifier	"Intel Corporation 865G Integrated Extreme Graphics 2 Device"
[01:46] <_omer_> 	Driver		"i810"
[01:46] <_omer_> 	BusID		"PCI:0:2:0"
[01:46] <_omer_> EndSection
[01:46] <RQ> and
[01:46] <RQ> ?
[01:46] <Antinomy> CapSoft: it installed, but won't recognize my keyboard
[01:46] <_omer_> Section "Device"
[01:46] <_omer_> 	Identifier	"Intel Corporation 865G Integrated Extreme Graphics 2 Device"
[01:46] <_omer_> 	Driver		"i810"
[01:46] <_omer_> 	BusID		"PCI:0:2:0"
[01:46] <_omer_> EndSection
[01:46] <Seveas> do NOT paste in here
[01:46] <CapSoft> lol
[01:47] <CapSoft> paste.ubuntulinux.org
[01:47] <Seveas> .nl
[01:47] <Antinomy> CapSoft: it installed, but won't recognize my keyboard
[01:47] <Seveas> not .org
[01:47] <Whistler> why cant i remove anything from ///etc/rc2.d ?
[01:47] <Seveas> wHisKy, because only root can
[01:47] <bob2> Whistler: because you didn't use sudo
[01:47] <CapSoft> k Seveas
[01:47] <bob2> Whistler: don't use nautilus for that
[01:47] <Whistler> i used krusader
[01:47] <Whistler> :D
[01:47] <Whistler> ^^
[01:47] <Whistler> =] 
[01:47] <bob2> don't use that either
[01:47] <CapSoft> commandline
[01:48] <CapSoft> sudo rm .....
[01:48] <Whistler> now i know
[01:48] <Whistler> =] 
[01:48] <Antinomy> what lovely irony. Windows is working great.
[01:48] <CapSoft> lmao
[01:48] <CapSoft> does it?
[01:48] <bob2> how is that irony?
[01:48] <CapSoft> it just does not show the errors...
[01:48] <Antinomy> CapSoft: yep.
[01:48] <zerboxx> Does anyone here know how to get pdf files onto a palm pilot? I've read that it's possible through evolution but I have no idea how
[01:48] <LuNaTiK^GuY> is there a program i can use to resume a download?
[01:48] <Whistler> what command deletes file?
[01:48] <Antinomy> bob2: well, I'm installing ubuntu because windows sucks.
[01:49] <bob2> Whistler: rm
[01:49] <Whistler> thx
[01:49] <CapSoft> LuNaTiK^GuY just look for download managers for linux
[01:49] <Antinomy> bob2:  But I may have to reevaluate the relative merits. A working computer is sort of essential
[01:49] <CapSoft> if you download through http, firefox has some plugins ...
[01:49] <Antinomy> to me at least
[01:49] <LuNaTiK^GuY> CapSoft is there something in the repos?
[01:49] <xliu> i used gcc to compile a cpp file , it returns:undefined reference to cin
[01:49] <bob2> xliu: your code is broken
[01:49] <simone> hi: how can I see where is the cdrom into /dev? I don't see a /dev/cdrom directory...
[01:49] <bob2> xliu: std::cin
[01:50] <Whistler> so if i remove files from ///etc/rc2.d so they wont start up?
[01:50] <Seveas> or: using namspace std
[01:50] <Seveas> Whistler, never manually do that
[01:50] <Seveas> use update-rc.d
[01:50] <bob2> Whistler: the S ones, yes
[01:50] <Antinomy> Does anyone know how I can get Ubuntu to recognize my keyboard?
[01:50] <xliu> yes , it returns"undefined reference to std:cin"
[01:50] <Seveas> xliu, std::cin
[01:50] <xliu> "undefined reference to std::cin"
[01:51] <Seveas> then #include <iostream>
[01:51] <hondje> hehe
[01:51] <RQ> Antinomy: what's wrong with your keyb?
[01:51] <bob2> xliu: this is #c++ territory, tho
[01:51] <Seveas> but waaay offtopic in here, go to a programming channel
[01:51] <xliu> but i have write "using namespace std"
[01:51] <bob2> or "time to buy a C++ book"
[01:51] <xliu> c++
[01:51] <Whistler> bob2 so i can delete files beggining with S20
[01:51] <Whistler> or smt like that?
[01:52] <Seveas> Whistler, why would you?
[01:52] <Antinomy> RQ: I did a dual boot install. Windows works fine - key board, mouse, but Ubu is not recognizing either
[01:52] <xoz> xliu: #include <iostream>
[01:52] <Seveas> Whistler, what are you trying to accomplish
[01:52] <RQ> Antinomy: does it ignore them completely?
[01:52] <RQ> ?
[01:52] <Whistler> Seveas cause i got few daemons booting up
[01:52] <Whistler> and i dont want them
[01:52] <Whistler> to boot up
[01:52] <Seveas> Whistler, which ones?
[01:52] <xliu> i have write all needed, it must be wrong configuration about gcc library
[01:52] <Whistler> mysql
[01:52] <Whistler> nessusd
[01:52] <Seveas> xliu, paste your code on a pastebin
[01:53] <Whistler> and few more
[01:53] <Antinomy> RQ: yep
[01:53] <Seveas> Whistler, then remove the packages...
[01:53] <xliu> pastebin?
[01:53] <Antinomy> Should I reinstall?
[01:53] <Seveas> xliu, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:53] <Whistler> i removed them but it still tries to boot up
[01:53] <RQ> oops
[01:53] <Seveas> !pastebin
[01:53] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[01:53] <RQ> weird irc client...
[01:53] <xliu> thanks a lot, all people helps me
[01:53] <Antinomy> RQ: SHould I reinstall?
[01:53] <RQ> Antinomy: does it ignore them both completely?
[01:53] <Antinomy> RQ: yes
[01:54] <RQ> no you shouldn't
[01:54] <RQ> Antinomy: hoary?
[01:54] <Antinomy> yes
[01:54] <Antinomy> RQ: grub loads fine and sees the hyes
[01:54] <Antinomy> keys
[01:55] <RQ> mhm...
[01:55] <RQ> Antinomy: and even in "single" mode you are unable to type?
[01:55] <ubuntu> ?
[01:55] <Antinomy> RQ: could this be because I'm loading a x86 onto a AMD 64?
[01:55] <Antinomy> RQ: correct
[01:55] <Whistler> what is an ntp-server?
[01:56] <Seveas> Whistler, how did you remove them?
[01:56] <Seveas> aptitude purge mysql-server should do it
[01:56] <RQ> Antinomy: yes :D
[01:56] <Seveas> or apt-get remove --purge
[01:56] <RQ> probably
[01:56] <RQ> dunno
[01:57] <RQ> Antinomy: isn't there a separate release for amd64?
[01:57] <Antinomy> RQ:  Yes, probably, dunno - quite a progression there lol
[01:57] <Antinomy> RQ: separate for 64, but everyone told me to use x86
[01:57] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how can i launch wget?
[01:57] <feAR`> just type "wget"
[01:57] <RQ> hmz weirdos
[01:57] <feAR`> :D
[01:58] <RQ> Antinomy: well if you were able to install x86 on that box, then it's probably working....
[01:58] <aeho> Whistler, it has something to do with computers clock I guess
[01:58] <Antinomy> RQ: What's working?
[01:58] <thoreauputic> LuNaTiK^GuY: for example   wget -C http://foo.bar.com/file-to-download
[01:59] <RQ> Antinomy: the way everyone suggested
[01:59] <thoreauputic> oops : should be lower case -c
[01:59] <Whistler> any ways of making ubuntu boot faster?
[01:59] <RQ> feAR`: get out, you gentoo user!! :P
[01:59] <feAR`> * arch
[01:59] <feAR`> :D
[01:59] <LuNaTiK^GuY> it starts in console....
[01:59] <Antinomy> RQ: so why won't it recognize my kb?
[01:59] <RQ> feAR`: whatev
[02:00] <feAR`> RQ, i`m using ubuntu as well...;p
[02:00] <thoreauputic> LuNaTiK^GuY: yes, it's a command line tool
[02:00] <RQ> Antinomy: have you upgraded your kernel before it started doing so?
[02:00] <LuNaTiK^GuY> thoreauputic, and where is it storing it?
[02:00] <Antinomy> RQ: before what did so? Ubuntu?
[02:00] <RQ> yes
[02:00] <thoreauputic> LuNaTiK^GuY: your working directory (that you call it from)
[02:00] <Antinomy> RQ: I don't know. I'm a n00b.
[02:00] <RQ> before ubuntu started ignoring your input
[02:00] <RQ> hm
[02:01] <Antinomy> RQ: oh. this is a fresh install
[02:01] <thoreauputic> LuNaTiK^GuY:  read  man wget - it has about 70 options
[02:01] <Antinomy> RQ: I've never hit a command line that took a command yet
[02:01] <Whistler> any ways of making ubuntu boot faster?
[02:02] <xoz> Whistler: avoid rebooting
[02:02] <Seveas> Whistler, if you are experimental, try init-ng (google for it)
[02:02] <RQ> Antinomy: try reinstalling from amd64 disc then
[02:02] <RQ> at least that's what i would do
[02:02] <Seveas> Whistler, if not: live with the current situation.
[02:02] <Antinomy> rq: k, will do.
[02:02] <LuNaTiK^GuY> thoreauputic, does wget resume a download?
[02:02] <Whistler> k
[02:02] <xoz> wget -c
[02:02] <Seveas> -C
[02:02] <Whistler> cause i rebot few times a day
[02:03] <Whistler> =] 
[02:03] <PD> yes LuNaTiK^GuY
[02:03] <thoreauputic> LuNaTiK^GuY: of course - that's what the -c option is for
[02:03] <LuNaTiK^GuY> oh ic
[02:03] <Seveas> eh crap
[02:03] <Seveas> -c indeed
[02:03] <xoz> heh
[02:04] <xoz> progs using CAPs are l33m
[02:05] <thoreauputic> LuNaTiK^GuY: I suggest typing   wget --help | less to see options
[02:05] <LuNaTiK^GuY> thoreauputic, yes i'm reading the options rite now :)
[02:05] <thoreauputic> LuNaTiK^GuY: :)
[02:05] <Varuni> I'm having problems with Ubuntu and DHCP. Anyone in here who may be able to help me out?
[02:05] <LuNaTiK^GuY> looks cool :)
[02:06] <thoreauputic> LuNaTiK^GuY: indeed - wget is a gem :)
[02:06] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm downloading eclipse....hope its worth the size :D
[02:07] <phixion> im getting very annoyed now :/
[02:08] <phixion> trying to install ctorrent, running ./configure, 'checking for C++ compiler default output... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables'
[02:09] <thoreauputic> phixion:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:09] <Antinomy> RQ: could this be related to the fact that windows doesn't see my monitor, but uses a default?
[02:09] <chris_^> Hi
[02:10] <Raptoid> selamlar.
[02:10] <phixion> THANKYOU thoreauputic!
[02:10] <chris_^> I just upgraded my Breezy, because X was broken for some days... now it works fine :) But i can not Switch the tty's with alt+strg+F1-F6? 0o
[02:10] <thoreauputic> phixion: :)  No problem
[02:10] <RQ> Antinomy: dunno. You might want to set your BIOS to default values btw
[02:10] <Antinomy> How can I boot from an install disk without hitting GRUB?
[02:11] <Antinomy> RQ: bios? what's that?
[02:11] <holycow> chris_^, and what?
[02:11] <RQ> you set CD to be your first boot device in BIOS
[02:11] <holycow> you expect help with something in pre alpha stage?
[02:11] <Antinomy> k
[02:11] <RQ> Antinomy: ooohhhhh
[02:11] <RQ> ok.. i see..
[02:11] <Antinomy> RQ: ?
[02:11] <Antinomy> RQ: what?
[02:11] <RQ> BIOS is Basic Input - Output System :)
[02:11] <Antinomy> RQ: good news?
[02:11] <Antinomy> oh
[02:11] <RQ> no...
[02:11] <chris_^> holycow? i can't switch O_o i boot up to gdm, but i can not go to the TTY1.. nothing happen if i press the three keys 0o
[02:11] <bob2> Whistler: if you know what they do and are sure you don't need them, yes
[02:11] <holycow> chris_^, so bloody what?
[02:11] <Antinomy> I know how to do that.
[02:12] <holycow> why are you using breezy?
[02:12] <RQ> it's just you're the first linux user i see not knowing what BIOS is ;)))
[02:12] <holycow> do you really think anyone can really help you with something in pre alpha stage?
[02:12] <holycow> how about reinstalling breezy ?
[02:12] <chris_^> holycow, its just on my Testing-PC
[02:12] <chris_^> on my workstation runs Hoary :P
[02:12] <RQ> Antinomy: you get to BIOS by hitting Del or F1 or some other key while the PC is in the early boot stage
[02:12] <holycow> i meant reinstall hoary
[02:12] <holycow> :)
[02:12] <holycow> haha!
[02:12] <Antinomy> RQ: Well, I'm not so much a linux user as an ubuntu user.
[02:12] <thoreauputic> holycow: you could try being a bit less bellicose, methinks
[02:12] <RQ> well, you get to the BIOS configuration utility, to be precize
[02:13] <holycow> thoreauputic, *sigh* maybe, it just seems ... so obvious
[02:13] <Antinomy> RQ: The attraction being that I would need to be a comp. engineer to tell Bill Gates to fuck off.
[02:13] <Antinomy> RQ: but so far...
[02:13] <Nameeater> is there a command to eject the cdrom?
[02:14] <RQ> Nameeater: eject
[02:14] <thoreauputic> Nameeater:  "eject" - funnily enough
[02:14] <Nameeater> oh.. ta :)
[02:14] <Antinomy> RQ: is Grub the same as floppy here?
[02:14] <RQ> Antinomy: eh?
[02:14] <Whistler> is zone alarm aviable for ubuntu?
[02:14] <RQ> grub is software
[02:14] <RQ> floppy is hardware :D
[02:15] <RQ> it physically cannot be the same
[02:15] <nightswim> Whistler: no way
[02:15] <thoreauputic> Antinomy: GRUB is a boot loader - it has nothing to do with devices
[02:15] <Antinomy> RQ: in bios. It's telling me the boot order is flopy, CD, HD, net
[02:15] <cruxnor> is it possible only to include some special packages from ubuntu-backports? i only want the java-stuff but not the mozilla etc. when i run an apt-get upgrade
[02:15] <Whistler> nightswim sad i dont like firestarter
[02:15] <Whistler> =[
[02:15] <RQ> Antinomy: that's ok
[02:15] <Antinomy> k
[02:15] <RQ> put the install CD in
[02:15] <Whistler> any other good firewall?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> Whistler: there are much better Linux firewall tools
[02:15] <RQ> and exit bios
[02:15] <thoreauputic> Whistler: a simple one is firestarter
[02:16] <nightswim> why would you want to use crap like zone alarm if there is real software available
[02:16] <Whistler> thoreauputic i have firestarter but it doest do anything
[02:16] <Seveas> Whistler, you need to tell it to do things....
[02:17] <Antinomy> rq: well, I changed the boot order, and it's still loading Grub.
[02:17] <Whistler> Seveas any tutorial?
[02:17] <thoreauputic> Whistler: you want bells and whistles or security ? It does exactly what is needed
[02:17] <RQ> Antinomy: not the CD?
[02:17] <Seveas> wHisKy, fs-security.com
[02:17] <Seveas> Whistler*
[02:17] <Antinomy> rq: well, I changed the boot order, and it's still loading Grub.
[02:17] <RQ> Antinomy: did you save the settings?
[02:17] <Antinomy> RQ: yep.
[02:17] <RQ> weird
[02:18] <RQ> and the CD doesn't boot yet?
[02:18] <thoreauputic> Whistler: firestarter has a wizard for heaven's sake: you need a tutorial?? It's trivially easy
[02:18] <Antinomy> rq: no.
[02:18] <xoz> Whistler: guidedog or shorewall
[02:19] <Antinomy> rq: ok, so now I can't even reinstall? What the hell?
[02:19] <RQ> wait wait...
[02:19] <RQ> this doesn't fit
[02:19] <RQ> unless the CD isn't bootable
[02:19] <Whistler> i have firestarter set up
[02:19] <Whistler> but anybody can ping me or scan my ports
[02:20] <Seveas> Whistler, so?
[02:20] <thoreauputic> Whistler: and?
[02:20] <Seveas> that is perfectly secure....
[02:20] <Whistler> i better like when nobody can do that
[02:20] <Antinomy> rq: let me try the 32 disk that "worked", unless you don't count a functioning keyboard as "work"
[02:20] <holycow> then you wont be on the net
[02:20] <trevi> I need to compile hplip (hp printing software). Install build-essentials (as guide says), but "make" fails...
[02:20] <thoreauputic> Whistler: then look for the filtering options in the config dialog
[02:21] <RQ> what do you mean Antinomy?
[02:21] <trevi> what else do I need to compilig...?
[02:21] <Seveas> Whistler, it gives you NO security at all to block pings...
[02:21] <Seveas> ...or portscans...
[02:21] <holycow> ping is harmless, and the only way people CANNOT scan you is if your computer is powered down
[02:21] <Antinomy> RQ: my x86 worked - it installed ubu. let's see if I can boot from there maybe the 64 CD is messed up
[02:21] <thoreauputic> Whistler: disabling pings is kind of bad form anyway
[02:21] <Seveas> indeed
[02:21] <RQ> ah ok :)
[02:21] <holycow> just make sure you have all unnecessary ports closed
[02:21] <Seveas> it's breaking quite a few RFC's to block pings and scans :)
[02:21] <RQ> trevi: what does make say?
[02:22] <holycow> what Seveas said, that too
[02:22] <Whistler> for example zone-alarm does that
[02:22] <Whistler> and its perfectly fine
[02:22] <holycow> no its not
[02:22] <thoreauputic> Whistler: for example, zone alarm is breaking RFCs as Seveas said
[02:22] <trevi> something about can process "all"
[02:23] <holycow> breaking rfc's is not fine
[02:23] <Seveas> zone alarm is crappus maximus
[02:23] <thoreauputic> Whistler: and you can ignore grc.com on this subject as well
[02:23] <Seveas> grc is paranoid
[02:23] <holycow> thoreauputic, hehe!
[02:23] <Whistler> k k
[02:23] <Whistler> =] 
[02:23] <Antinomy> RQ: if it doesnt see my kb, then is it a driver issue or something?
[02:24] <Whistler> so is there any way to show me when somebody scans my ports
[02:24] <Whistler> ?
[02:24] <mumbles> dhcp dump
[02:24] <mumbles> or something like that?
[02:24] <RQ> Antinomy: the kernel is bad prolly, or sth
[02:24] <holycow> grc.com guy definately steps over the line of 'reasonable', he reminds me of the conspiracy wackos
[02:24] <rob^> Whistler, firestarter will log some of it
[02:25] <thoreauputic> Whistler: have you actually bothered to *look* at the interface for firestarter? that's exactly what it does
[02:25] <Whistler> i know
[02:25] <chris_^> root@Asterix:/home/chris/Downloads/porn-get_0.5.1 # porn-get update
[02:25] <chris_^> Hit: sex-mission.com Packages [374] 
[02:25] <chris_^> Hit: tommys-bookmarks.com/babes.shtml Packages [996] 
[02:25] <chris_^> Hit: tommys-bookmarks.com/pornstars.shtml Packages [999] 
[02:25] <chris_^> Hit: tommys-bookmarks.com/centerfolds.shtml Packages [737] 
[02:25] <chris_^> Hit: tommys-bookmarks.com/cumshots.shtml Packages
[02:25] <Whistler> but it never alerted me
[02:25] <holycow> for example, before winxp, he was complaining that ms didn't allow raw access to tcpip ports, when xp added raw tcpip access, he complained that it would ruin the internet and allow script kiddies to do all kinds of things
[02:25] <holycow> *sigh*
[02:25] <frank> I was just thinking about the grc guy. What he considers safe is being completely inivible
[02:25] <Seveas> stupid porn spammer....
[02:25] <Whistler> =] 
[02:26] <thoreauputic> Whistler: for heaven's sake - the little button turns red in case you weren't looking...
[02:26] <coobra> Seveas: hunt him and kill him slovly
[02:26] <emanuelez> hello
[02:27] <IFRFLYR> Hi, I'm trying to make a dd image of my home directory and keep getting a message that the filesize is too large. I'm using dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/home/nick/usb/root_partition_iso_150505.iso  bs=65535 - any ideas?
[02:27] <emanuelez> after playing with gaim-vv now gaim doesn't show icons anymore... how can i reinstall it cleanly? i tried apt remove and install it again but i had no luck with that. any hint?
[02:28] <Seveas> IFRFLYR, probably your /home partition is bigger than the space left on your USB drive....
[02:28] <IFRFLYR> Seveas, actually, no, the USB drive is wide open and significantly larger.
[02:28] <Seveas> emanuelez, the icon cache is in ~/.gaim, remove the buddies.xml to reset it (it will reset any aliases you have set too, but not your contact list)
[02:28] <emanuelez> Seveas: r u tring to write the iso image in the same dir u're dumping?
[02:28] <Seveas> emanuelez, I'm doing nothing :)
[02:29] <chris_^> -_-
[02:29] <emanuelez> Seveas: oppss.. sorry.. that was for IFRFLYR
[02:29] <weitao__> hi, I have a problem when I use gThumb to print a photos . it has always blank at the edge, how can I do to reduce it?
[02:29] <james> I'm connecting to cups via localhost:631 and its asking me for the CUPS password, I've tried both my own login and the root login, is there a seperate password for cups
[02:30] <holycow> james, there is no cups web interface
[02:30] <holycow> forget that
[02:30] <holycow> use the cups gnome manager plz
[02:30] <holycow> system/admin/printing
[02:30] <james> I've been trying that, but I can't get it to print
[02:30] <holycow> first, printing from what
[02:30] <holycow> second, what printer?
[02:31] <holycow> did you check linuxprinting.org to see if printer is supported?
[02:31] <holycow> sorry, just throwing out a checklist
[02:31] <james> anything, this includes a "test page", gedit, firefox
[02:31] <holycow> :)
[02:31] <IFRFLYR> emanuelez, no different physical drive
[02:31] <holycow> third is it connected locally via cable, or over the network
[02:31] <holycow> etc.
[02:32] <IFRFLYR> emanuelez: dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/home/nick/usb/root_partition_iso_220705.iso  bs=65535
[02:32] <james> a local printer on the paralel port - a samsung ml-1210 laser printer
[02:32] <Gourami> please help with mounting, first I get smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[02:32] <james> ** (gnome-cups-manager:5287): WARNING **: connect = 'parallel:/dev/lp0'
[02:33] <Gourami> so then I do sudo chmod u+s /usr/bin/smbmnt
[02:33] <IFRFLYR> OR does anyone have a better way to mirror a root partition to a backup drive?
[02:33] <Gourami> then I get libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root.
[02:33] <Gourami> 11685: Connection to zatrm054 failed
[02:34] <emanuelez> it seems i also miss some gaim files in /usr/share... how can i force it to reinstall?
[02:34] <emanuelez> IFRFLYR: dunno...
[02:34] <IFRFLYR> Yeah, me neither. googling some more I guess. . . .
[02:34] <james> The print jobs are showing up in /var/spool/cups/
[02:34] <holycow> james, *hmmm*
[02:35] <emanuelez> is there an apt-get reinstall or something?
[02:35] <evanpro> Well lookie there
[02:35] <james> Though the gnome-print-manager thinks they are now processed
[02:35] <Gourami> anyone help with mnt problems, I am following the wiki but getting sudo related problems
[02:35] <evanpro> There's my answer, right in the topic
[02:35] <traveller> anyone here got java to work on ubuntu amd64 before? i followed the howto to no avail
[02:35] <Amaranth> emanuelez: sudo apt-get install --reinstall foo
[02:35] <evanpro> traveller, yeah, mine is working
[02:36] <evanpro> Did you use make-jpkg ?
[02:36] <emanuelez> Amaranth: wohoo! thx! :)
[02:36] <eevertti> is ubuntu good for firewall/router?
[02:36] <traveller> evanpro: yeah, everything on the howto
[02:36] <othernoob> traveller: java hasn't been completely ported to amd64 yet..
[02:36] <holycow> james, i'm at a loss because that issue is at a much more granular level than most generic print issues ... sounds like an issue between the printer and the /dev/lpt device ...
[02:36] <traveller> othernoob: oh no....that's bad news
[02:36] <othernoob> eevertti: rather use freesco as firewall/fouter
[02:36] <holycow> james, and i'm not sure how to debug those unfortunately, sorry :/
[02:36] <thoreauputic> eevertti: a dedicated firewall/router like Smoothwall would be easier
[02:37] <othernoob> traveller: iirc the javawebstart and javaplugin hasn't been ported, but the JRE has
[02:37] <james> I'm getting permission denied whenI try sudo cat test.pdf > /dev/lp0
[02:37] <traveller> othernoob: ok i think that's my problem, i needed the plugin
[02:37] <othernoob> traveller: sucks :/
[02:37] <vader> Morning people
[02:38] <traveller> othernoob: yeah :/ know any place where i can see the progress?
[02:38] <james> occasionally the printer will spin up, after a print, but nothing will actually be printed
[02:38] <othernoob> traveller: i'd assume java.sun.com ;)
[02:38] <Gourami> urgh now the internet is broke
[02:38] <Chris_Tucker> i have kubuntu, and i also have ubuntu livecd, im currently out of cd's and bandwidth, is it possible to use the stuff off livecd to switch the kubuntu installed over to gnome?
[02:38] <Seveas> james, ehrm, that is not the way to print...
[02:39] <Seveas> james, try cat test.ps | lpr
[02:39] <traveller> othernoob: oh it's actually sun's fault? i'd figure they would have done everything before letting it go
[02:39] <eevertti> othernoob, another distro, or hardware?
[02:39] <thoreauputic> Gourami: the internet is broke? gee, that's serious - but it seems to be working... or we wouldn't be connected ;-)
[02:40] <othernoob> eevertti: freesco is a diskette-big-distro
[02:40] <holycow> Gourami, tell us when you finish the guy at the end of the internet
[02:40] <holycow> -_-
[02:40] <othernoob> traveller: i'm quite sure they're working on it :)
[02:40] <Chris_Tucker> lol holycow
[02:40] <Gourami> ok its almost broke, at least I got a response !
[02:40] <traveller> othernoob: well i sure hope they can do it quick :/
[02:41] <Gourami> now please help me with my mnt problem :0
[02:41] <traveller> othernoob: doesn't seem like there's anything i can do. thank you
[02:41] <thoreauputic> holycow: maybe he meant there was no blue explorer icon on his desktop ;-)
[02:41] <othernoob> traveller: no problem :)
[02:41] <Chris_Tucker> hahahhahaa
[02:41] <Chris_Tucker> i hate IE
[02:41] <Seveas> Gourami, wwww.ubuntulinux.nl/files/addsamba
[02:41] <holycow> thoreauputic, rofl!!!!
[02:41] <Seveas> download and run that
[02:42] <Gourami> libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root.
[02:42] <Seveas> it will add samba shares to your /etc/fstab
[02:42] <james> printer powers up, ready for a print, but nothing prints
[02:42] <eevertti> othernoob, k, gotta look for it...
[02:42] <holycow> thoreauputic, at work i actually have people refer to their browser as "the internet"
[02:42] <vader> so do I...if it is an older machine that won't run IE6, you are exposed to too many wicked things
[02:42] <Gourami> Seveas: I am following the wiki step by step
[02:42] <CarlFK> isn't there a package for ati like there is for nvidia?
[02:42] <holycow> i go "open your browser" they go "you mean the internet?"
[02:42] <thoreauputic> holycow: sad, isn't it ? :)
[02:42] <holycow> gotta love it
[02:42] <holycow> indeed
[02:42] <Chris_Tucker> holycow, here at work they have changed the IE icon to "the internet" for the whole network domain :X
[02:42] <othernoob> eevertti: http://www.freesco.org/
[02:43] <holycow> Chris_Tucker, your kiidding?
[02:43] <Chris_Tucker> no
[02:43] <Chris_Tucker> its actually that
[02:43] <v1ru5> hi. i'm having SEVERE problems with installing Ubuntu. i believe that my problem will just melt in to the 100's of other questions stated here, could someone who knows about Ubuntu and linux in general just private message me?
[02:43] <v1ru5> dpkg doesn't work
[02:43] <holycow> jesus, i swear, every year that i am alive, i am amazed at how little thinking people want to do
[02:43] <v1ru5> can't install grub or lilo
[02:43] <othernoob> Chris_Tucker: in which hell do you work? ;)
[02:43] <CarlFK> my gf is cute: "I broke the internet"
[02:43] <v1ru5> but the base system seems to install ok
[02:43] <holycow> i am more and more amazed even
[02:43] <vader> Chris_Tucker; where I work they have switched to Mozilla...
[02:43] <Amaranth> please say you mean firefox
[02:44] <vader> yes
[02:44] <v1ru5>  i need help!
[02:44] <gianni> can someone tell me how i can mount a partition on login?
[02:44] <vader> I am the one who builds and maiintains all of the images
[02:44] <Seveas> v1ru5, paste the error on a pastebin
[02:44] <Chris_Tucker> othernoob, a school, im the admin for the summer :/ but thing is i cant really do much adminning due to schoolboard contracts with other tech's .. i just sit here and help people all day
[02:44] <Seveas> gianni, add a call to mount to system->prefs->sessions (3rd tab)
[02:44] <Chris_Tucker> vader, this school doesnt know what mozilla is
[02:45] <gianni> seveas>thanks
[02:45] <othernoob> Chris_Tucker: sounds like an..interesting job :/
[02:45] <vader> teach them dide... that is part of the IT admins job, to teach
[02:45] <james> gianni: either add it to your /etc/fstab file, or manually mount at prompt mount /dev/hda9 /mnt/disk1
[02:45] <vader> dude
[02:45] <v1ru5> Seveas: how can i do that without a mouse?
[02:45] <v1ru5> it gives out like 2 pages full of errors besides
[02:45] <Gourami> Seveas: Unable to determine IP address from host name for wwww.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:46] <Seveas> v1ru5, does the machine have a net connectioin
[02:46] <Seveas> connection*
[02:46] <Chris_Tucker> vader, they'll think im schemeing
[02:46] <Seveas> Gourami, www instead of wwww
[02:46] <v1ru5> i'm connected from it, from the lil console like thing
[02:46] <coobra> mouse is for pussys
[02:46] <coobra> :P
[02:46] <v1ru5> which doesn\t have much commands
[02:46] <Chris_Tucker> vader, these people are very very stubborn
[02:46] <Seveas> v1ru5, wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[02:46] <Seveas> v1ru5, and then run dpkg ..... | tee -a errorlog
[02:47] <Chris_Tucker> i have kubuntu, and i also have ubuntu livecd, im currently out of cd's and bandwidth, is it possible to use the stuff off livecd to switch the kubuntu installed over to gnome?
[02:47] <Seveas> and cat errorlog | python pastebin
[02:47] <Gourami> lol ok
[02:47] <vader> prove it to them and use IE6 against firefox....then show them all of the docs, that is what I had to do
[02:47] <Chris_Tucker> vader, i may
[02:47] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, no, the live cd contains no packages
[02:47] <coobra> hmm
[02:47] <v1ru5> Seveas: wget errored on me "read only filesystem@
[02:47] <Chris_Tucker> Seveas, damn .. that sucks
[02:47] <weiers> Hi... I just installed a GeForce6200 video card. But when I reboot the computer, the graphical interface does not want to start. I then logged in on commandline and did an apt-get install of nvidia-glx as well as nvidia-settings. I ran sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and I used VIM to set up a /usr/share/application/nvidia-settigns.desktop file. When I rebooted, Ubuntu would still not start the Graphical User interface (X-org)
[02:47] <Seveas> v1ru5, hmm
[02:48] <coobra> laptop 450mhz 198ram will it work :P
[02:48] <Seveas> wget .... -O /tmp/pastebin
[02:48] <v1ru5> ok
[02:48] <vader> Chris_Tucker: I beleive it would be worth your time to throw together a presentation....knock their sox off dude
[02:48] <Chris_Tucker> weiers, run the xorg config program
[02:48] <Chris_Tucker> vader, i may
[02:48] <weiers> Chris_Tucker - could you tell me how to do that?
[02:49] <Chris_Tucker> but vader, where could i find legit sites taht would infect ie?
[02:49] <keikoz> do somebdy could help about acpi? when i type acpi -t u just have No support for device type: thermal
[02:49] <Chris_Tucker> weiers, i seem to have forgotten :/
[02:49] <v1ru5> umm
[02:49] <vader> just type in spyware
[02:49] <keikoz> but i know that sensors exixsts
[02:49] <Tomcat_> weiers: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:49] <thoreauputic> weiers: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:49] <vader> in a google bar lol..........trust me
[02:49] <frank> Chris_Tucker: there are some. Try to find the image that opens up 100 notepad windows!
[02:49] <Chris_Tucker> thats it
[02:49] <v1ru5> Seveas: permission to the file is denied.. :S (i'm a total newb i know :(
[02:50] <Chris_Tucker> oooh! yea those
[02:50] <Seveas> v1ru5, looks like your disk is b0rked or something
[02:50] <Chris_Tucker> thanks frank, i wil
[02:50] <vader> gtg time for me to get work............bye
[02:50] <Chris_Tucker> l
[02:50] <Gourami> Seveas: sorry but that doesnt help me, that reads like something from ubuntuguide...I am using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba to set up the mnt
[02:50] <Seveas> does mount tell you it's read only?
[02:50] <weiers> thank Christ_Tucker, Tomcat_ and thoreauputic
[02:50] <v1ru5> Seveas: umm, how do i check that??
[02:50] <Christ_Tucker> your welcome
[02:50] <Seveas> v1ru5, type mount without arguments and check if you see ro
[02:51] <v1ru5> ok
[02:51] <Seveas> Gourami, are you trying to share folders on your machine ?
[02:51] <Chris_Tucker> bleh.. my kitkat went all melted :(
[02:51] <Daemonic> Ubuntu finally sent me some cds after months of waiting.. I have to say it's quite a nice distro.
[02:51] <Gourami> Seveas: no I am trying to mount a shared folder on another machine
[02:51] <v1ru5> Seveas: only cdrom has ro, all others are rw
[02:51] <Tomcat_> Chris_Tucker: I feel with you :I
[02:51] <Tomcat_> Daemonic: :D
[02:51] <Chris_Tucker> lol
[02:52] <Seveas> Gourami, then the script I gave you will automagically generate fstab lines if you run it...
[02:52] <Seveas> can't be easier
[02:52] <Seveas> oh, and dont do the chmod +s thing the wiki says
[02:52] <Seveas> it's an error
[02:52] <Chris_Tucker> Daemonic, you actually waited? im still waiting for mine, i got so impatient from all the stuff id read, i went and got it myself, dialup didnt stop me.
[02:52] <Gourami> so ok thanks I think, how on earth do I run the web url ?
[02:53] <Gourami> too late done it already
[02:53] <Daemonic> Chris_Tucker, slackware and gentoo kept me happy while waiting. =)
[02:53] <Chris_Tucker> ah,
[02:53] <Chris_Tucker> er .
[02:53] <Seveas> Gourami, chmod u-s /usr/bin/smbmnt
[02:53] <Daemonic> Chris_Tucker, I just installed ubuntu a couple hours ago... still playing around with it.. so far I like it...being based off of Debian is good.
[02:53] <Seveas> Gourami, wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/addsamba
[02:53] <Seveas> Gourami, sudo bash addsamba
[02:54] <Chris_Tucker> yea Daemonic, it is
[02:55] <v1ru5> the situation here; i've tried to install Ubuntu twice. Everything goes ok, at least it doesn't stop to any errors, but it seems it doesn't install the boot loader (neither lilo or grub) ok.. How to fix this // any ideas/help ????
[02:55] <Daemonic> I would have much rather installed it on my other box...which is now deceased because of a power supply failute..
[02:55] <Daemonic> failure*
[02:55] <v1ru5> cause the system gives me the "insert sys disk and press enter" when i try to boot from HD
[02:55] <Daemonic> damn power supply took out everything but the memory ...
[02:55] <Gourami> Seveas: is hostname case sensitive ?
[02:56] <pobstil> how can I disable gdm on startup, and enable other things?
[02:56] <Chris_Tucker> ok, im going to throw up a q, is there a way to download the ubuntu-desktop from the net while not on kubuntu? i'd like to download the gnome one and its requisites from here and carry them home on my thumbdrive because this is the only place in the town with highspeed, there is only dialup at homes
[02:56] <thoreauputic> pobstil: enable what, for instance?
[02:56] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, what kind of os are you on now?
[02:57] <Chris_Tucker> i have win98 and ubuntu livecd at my disposal
[02:57] <pobstil> well I want to use ubuntu as a server, and enable apache and sshd
[02:57] <v1ru5> can i get help here o_O
[02:57] <v1ru5> i'm really pissed ya know
[02:57] <v1ru5> don't have another box
[02:57] <Chris_Tucker> pobstil, to get you started, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:57] <v1ru5> just this
[02:57] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, I guess the best option is to download the ubuntu installer iso and use that at home to install ubuntu-desktop
[02:57] <v1ru5> which doesn't work, obviously
[02:57] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - guess you can't burn a CD where you are at?
[02:58] <thoreauputic> pobstil: disabling gdm is easy enough: echo "false" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager  (IIRC)
[02:58] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, i used my own burner in one of these computers before for kubuntu but now im out of discs
[02:58] <Seveas> v1ru5, do you have some sort of bootsector protection in your bios?
[02:58] <Antinomy> hey all - I get this error when installing from a 64 CD - could not retrieve bsdutils. Thoughts?
[02:58] <Chris_Tucker> :X wont have any more for 3 weeks
[02:58] <pobstil> how can I start sshd and apache on startup?
[02:58] <Seveas> v1ru5, and the Ubuntu installer should install grub. If that fails, it gives an error message...
[02:59] <v1ru5> Seveas: could it be the virus protection??
[02:59] <v1ru5> if i disable that and reinstall again.. could it work?
[02:59] <Seveas> pobstil, they are autostarted automagically when you install them (and added to the start-on-boot list)
[02:59] <CarlFK> thoreauputic - I found a better way to do "that": sudo sh -c 'echo >x'
[02:59] <Seveas> v1ru5, YES
[02:59] <v1ru5> ok
[02:59] <v1ru5> ->
[02:59] <Chris_Tucker> Seveas, is there a way to get teh ubuntu-desktop and its requisites .debs via what i have (livecd and w98)?
[02:59] <Antinomy> hey all - I get this error when installing from a 64 CD - could not retrieve bsdutils. Thoughts?
[02:59] <pobstil> ok thanks
[02:59] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, it is possible but very difficult because you will have to figure out all dependencies yourself
[02:59] <Chris_Tucker> pobstil, to get you started, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:00] <thoreauputic> pobstil: install openssh-server for sshd and it will be configured to startup
[03:00] <KB2000> is there a way to install ubuntu from a live cd? so i can do stuff while installing
[03:00] <Chris_Tucker> Seveas, not if what im trying rigth now works, if it does, synaptic will tell me them
[03:00] <pobstil> wont that basically start sshd on startup?
[03:00] <CarlFK> KB2000 - not yet.
[03:00] <Gourami> Seveas: see output error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/715
[03:00] <Chris_Tucker> Seveas, how, if i know them?
[03:00] <KB2000> carlfk: but it's gonna be possible?
[03:01] <slask3n> I did a expert-install and copied the remaining packages to disk so i dont need inserting the disc all the time, but then i accidentaly pressed enter on the "apt configure"-something and now it doesnt know that the packages is on the disk and asks for the cd, how can i change it back, or what should i write in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:01] <Chris_Tucker> pobstil, yes
[03:01] <pobstil> just for reference, can I do that without installing openssh-server?
[03:01] <weiers> I just did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in an attempt to get the computer to read/recognise the GeForce6200 card. It took me through a long process asking many questions. I chose the default options on them all, but when I rebooted the xserver still did not start
[03:01] <CarlFK> KB2000 - people are talking about it a few months ago - I havn't kept on on the progress
[03:02] <thoreauputic> pobstil: erm - how can you run an ssh server without installing it?
[03:02] <Chris_Tucker> pobstil, no, there isnt one there to start till you install one
[03:02] <pobstil> sshd is on there by default, you can start it without installing openssh-server
[03:02] <Gourami> Seveas: see output error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/715 (when u get a chance)
[03:03] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - I don't suppose you have access to your kubuntu box now?
[03:03] <thoreauputic> pobstil: hrm - ubuntu does *not* install an ssh server by default
[03:03] <thoreauputic> pobstil: only the client
[03:03] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, i will in an hour and a half
[03:03] <pobstil> gee maybe I did it without realising before then..
[03:04] <pobstil> :s
[03:04] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - somehow you need to get A) packages currently on your box and B) packages needed for kubuntu and then sort that out.  no clue how to get either list ;)
[03:04] <pobstil> well I'm off
[03:04] <Will_> Anybody know of a decent timer application? I just need something that will beep at me after 30 minutes.
[03:04] <Will_> (Yes, I could write a perl script)
[03:04] <thoreauputic> pobstil: and you start it with invoke-rc,d ssh start ( not sshd )
[03:05] <phixion> can anyone tell me how i go about running 'smart update'?
[03:05] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - but... if you could figure out some of the bigger ones, put those on the thumb, take home, add the thumb to your /etc/apt/sources.list and then let apt get the others over dialup
[03:05] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK i know how to get the list of things ubuntu-desktop needs, just go to kynaptic or synaptic and select it, it will say "you also need....."
[03:05] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - oh yeah...  there you go ;)
[03:06] <zerboxx> Is it "safe" to manually install firefox 1.0.6?
[03:06] <Chris_Tucker> add them to my sources.list as in thats a file with a list of things and where they are or as in thats a folder and dump them there?
[03:06] <Chris_Tucker> zerboxx i have been having some trouble with that
[03:06] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - yeah - just a sec ill find an example
[03:06] <zerboxx> Chris_Tucker: Ok, thanks
[03:06] <Chris_Tucker> it should work, but you may have trouble
[03:06] <Chris_Tucker> thanks CarlFK
[03:07] <thoreauputic> Will_: sleep 30m && mpg321 loudsong.mp3
[03:07] <qt2> so... i managed to get three people's, in addition to my own, volume buttons working toraise/lower PCM instead of the Master volume.... oh.. and  their mute buttons to boot ;)
[03:08] <zerboxx> qt2: yes you did! thanks again :)
[03:08] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - hmm, not as easy as I though... I have the CD image mounted, and the first line of my sources.list: deb file:///var/www/ubuntu-hoary hoary main restricted
[03:08] <linukso> Hi! <stupid question...>Is backports likely to break my system?</sq>
[03:08] <Will_> thoreauputic: *grin* I've already considered that... though it might be thr way to go
[03:08] <qt2> linukso, not really.
[03:09] <thoreauputic> Will_: I've written a little timer that needs Xdialog if you are interested
[03:09] <thoreauputic> Will_: it's pretty simple - my first GUI thing ;)
[03:10] <silveruno> help, i cant find the place where i can change the resolution
[03:10] <Will_> thoreauputic: Sounds interesting
[03:10] <thoreauputic> Will_:  http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/Timer_Script.html
[03:10] <Will_> You know, considering my degree I should really code my own in java
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, i'll figure it out. in a little over an hour im off work for 6 hrs, thats plenty of time to get the info i need and learn about that sources.list
[03:11] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - but there is a file: Packages.gz that apt-get is going to want, no clue how to create that
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> :)
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> ugh ok thats a prob
[03:11] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - you need to "create a repository"
[03:11] <thoreauputic> Will_: why java? Don't give in to the dark side, Luke! ;)
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> uh, cant i just dpkg -i these things?
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> and then apt-get the rest?
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> the smaller ones that is
[03:12] <colmore> if i need to have a setserial comman run before x starts, where should I put it?
[03:12] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - maybe...  no clue how depandancies are dealt with if you do that
[03:12] <qt2> thoreauputic, gtk based?
[03:12] <linukso> qt2: hmm, really dont want to break my system, but some of the stock ubuntu apps are a bit out of date...
[03:12] <colmore> such as, linukso ?
[03:12] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - I have a feeling it will be worth it to figure out how to make your thumb into a repository
[03:12] <Will_> thoreauputic: Required for my CS degree.
[03:12] <thoreauputic> qt2: yes, it uses the Xdialog thing
[03:12] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, i'll proably figure it out. messing around in synaptic will tell me what depends on what
[03:12] <qt2> linukso, i've been using it for  a few weeks, and MY system hasnt broke yet....
[03:13] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - yeah, but that messing around wont teach you anything ;)
[03:13] <Chris_Tucker> well, CarlFK the thumbdrive wont be on that computer, i have another computer with an httpd, could i do that?
[03:13] <qt2> silveruno, System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[03:13] <colmore> ./configuring isn't that hard really
[03:13] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - yes
[03:13] <linukso> colmore: f-spot, gaim, blam.
[03:14] <Will_> thoreauputic: This is ideal. Thanks!
[03:14] <qt2> thoreauputic, xdialog?
[03:14] <Will_> thoreauputic: As soon as the java version is ready, I'll let you know *grin*
[03:14] <silveruno> thanks
[03:14] <thoreauputic> qt2:  apt-cache show xdialog :)
[03:14] <colmore> don't know what #s 1 and 3 are
[03:14] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, think i could find a tutorial on the web for this?
[03:14] <kbrooks> Chris_Tucker: uh, maybe
[03:14] <colmore> repeat: what script should I modify to have something run at bootup, before X starts?
[03:14] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - one of us should.. I'v been looking
[03:14] <thoreauputic> Will_: *shudder* Java is Evil ;-)
[03:15] <Will_> thoreauputic: It's not _that_ bad. But I know how you feel
[03:15] <thoreauputic> Will_: heheh
[03:15] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, im fireing up google :)
[03:15] <qt2> thoreauputic, fun.
[03:15] <colmore> Java seems like dead tech next to runtime languages like ruby and python
[03:15] <Madeye> guys, how to get folder content size? i'm connecting through ftp
[03:16] <colmore> and anything you wouldn't want to use those for, you probably wouldn't want to use java for
[03:16] <stew2> Where can I download the latest ISO of breezy?
[03:16] <thoreauputic> Will_: just don't try to run any fancy commands with that timer - it won't understand more than a simple one
[03:17] <Will_> thoreauputic: I'm just happy with the visual bar. I often find myself doing things like reading, tidying, coding or playing games... And I need to spend X amount of time doing it. This is just what I need to remind me
[03:17] <thoreauputic> Will_: great :) It's GPL, of course ;-) heheh
[03:17] <stew2> Or is there a hoary I can download with all the patches added??
[03:18] <qt2> thoreauputic, heh, all i could use now is a dialog that mimics the default gnome volume contorl overlay... ;)
[03:18] <Will_> thoreauputic: I might consider making something similar in perl, python or ruby. It'd be a good thing for me to practice
[03:19] <thoreauputic> Will_: yeah, I did it as an exercise to improve my bash scripting :)
[03:19] <colmore> python is a pleasure after writing in other languages
[03:20] <Chris_Tucker> wow, CarlFK, first result on the good ole google.CA/linux.... https://www.bioinformatics.uwaterloo.ca/~tvinar/wiki/index.php?DebianLinuxPackaging
[03:20] <colmore> so does anyone know anything about the init process?  I need to put a command in there somewhere to get my tablet PC working
[03:20] <thoreauputic> Will_: I'm very much a beginner in scripting/programming
[03:20] <colmore> same here
[03:20] <colmore> basically i've learned that C is almost never worth the effort
[03:21] <tbasten> i just got an ATI radeon card and my old card was nvidia. I cant seem to uninstall nvidia-glx
[03:21] <mjr> good for you :)
[03:21] <Raptoid> selamlar.
[03:21] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - nice hit - I coulcn't even come close
[03:21] <Will_> thoreauputic: It's nice. I've only brushed through the code, but it does work, so you pass that test
[03:21] <thoreauputic> Will_: heh - yes i made sure it worked :)
[03:22] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, the university of waterloo is good for something :)
[03:22] <alkuovi> Firestarter shows an active connection to 127.0.0.1 from ipp and I have already found out that it is made by my printer. Is that connection necessary because I don't have other computers connected to network?
[03:22] <dim_> hi everybody
[03:22] <tbasten> Anyone have a Radeon card?
[03:22] <tbasten> Who can help me with mine
[03:22] <dim_> can anybody help install skype with ubuntu?
[03:22] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, now my only prob is, how do i get these packages?
[03:23] <thoreauputic> Will_: it barfs on commands that need arguments etc
[03:23] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - nother link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocalAptGetRepositories
[03:23] <dim_> i have a library problem
[03:23] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - wget them from archive.ubuntu.com
[03:23] <thoreauputic> Will_: but I think I put in a catcher for what it can't handle
[03:23] <jblu> Hi all, G4 Mac running Hoary ppc. Just starting.  When I dragged my Web site to my home folder, all the files have a lock on them. I did a chown my user but they are still locked. Is this right?
[03:23] <Chris_Tucker> ok CarlFK, thanks for all the help
[03:24] <Will_> thoreauputic: I'd look through, but I've only 19 minutes left on my current task.. I gotta hurry!
[03:24] <thoreauputic> Will_: haha
[03:24] <Chris_Tucker> bleh
[03:24] <Chris_Tucker> damnit
[03:24] <thoreauputic> Will_: I use it to remind me I have a pizza in the oven ;)
[03:24] <Chris_Tucker> i *clicked* the link
[03:25] <Chris_Tucker> now of course i did this at work and IE pops up..
[03:25] <Chris_Tucker> and now its frozen
[03:25] <tbasten> Can someone help me with uninstalling nvidia-glx please
[03:25] <dim_> anyone knows about installing the linux version of skype?
[03:25] <jblu> copying from a CD  to my home folder, all the files are locked. Is this normal?
[03:25] <alkuovi> dim_: did you follow the instructions from ubuntuguide when you installed skype?
[03:26] <rob^> jblu, yes, they are either read only or copied by a different user (maybe root)
[03:26] <dim_> no i downloaded the package from the skype.org site
[03:26] <alkuovi> dim_: ok, you should look this site http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype
[03:27] <dim_> thanks, I'll check
[03:27] <jblu> ok, so they are available to me then, right?
[03:27] <alkuovi> dim_: If you have already downloaded skype you can skip the wget command
[03:27] <CarlFK> dim_ - I know about it: don't do it ;)   use kphone or one of the other dozzen VoIP phones
[03:28] <rob^> jblu yes, but you have have to chmod/chown them to access them
[03:28] <jblu> I did , but they still show the lock on them
[03:28] <dim_> what is kphone?
[03:28] <rob^> what user owns the files?
[03:28] <rob^> the same user that your logged on with now?
[03:29] <rob^> dim_, a piece of military equipment
[03:29] <jblu> I did chown -R "my user"  /home/"my user"
[03:30] <rob^> jblu, ok, check to see if your user has read/write access to the files
[03:30] <jblu> k
[03:31] <rob^> jblu, an ls -la should look something like: -rw-rw-r-  1 rob rob
[03:31] <stew2> Is it possible to get a Hoary ISO with all the latest updates?
[03:31] <rob^> for example
[03:32] <CarlFK> stew2 - i don't think so
[03:32] <stew2> CarlFK Like it's possible to slipstream all the Windows XP updates into an XP distro.
[03:32] <jblu> drwxr-xr-x
[03:32] <CarlFK> stew2 - but much like installing fromt he live cd, I think it is in the works
[03:33] <dim_> alkuovi: thanks a lot for the information: the installation was successful
[03:33] <dim_> bye
[03:33] <cisco> can anyone help I get "Temporary failure in Name Resolution" right after clock ?
[03:33] <stew2> CarlFK K
[03:33] <rob^> jblu, is the user names the same as the one your logged on with
[03:33] <jblu> yes
[03:33] <stew2> CarlFK Cause I have a fast broadband connection at the internet coffee shop. But not at home. I have dialup at home and it's per minute.
[03:33] <stew2> (Ireland0
[03:33] <rob^> not only the ones with "d" in front, but the actual files
[03:33] <stew2> + a sticky keyboard
[03:33] <jblu> Just me and root on this computer
[03:33] <stew2> (not my doing)
[03:33] <CarlFK> stew2 - were you following what Chris_Tucker is doing?
[03:34] <cisco> can anyone help I get "Temporary failure in Name Resolution" right after clock at boot up ?
[03:34] <stew2> CarlFK Nope.
[03:34] <Chris_Tucker> he wants to plant them IN the iso and have them install with it
[03:34] <rob^> jblu, ie: -rw-r--r--  1 rob rob 327359 2005-07-22 22:19 faqguide.xml
[03:34] <stew2> Chris_Tucker, Yeah
[03:35] <jblu> thanks
[03:35] <stew2> Chris_Tucker, Yes I want the patches included.
[03:35] <CarlFK> stew2 - k - here is what you do: 1 on your box, figure out what packages you need.  take that list to the coffee shop.  get some good coffee ;)  3 use wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/something to get the .deb files you need
[03:35] <stew2> CarlFK, Take the whole box? Hehehe
[03:35] <stew2> CarlFK, I've done that too.
[03:36] <Chris_Tucker> stew2, just clarifing to CarlFK, i dont know how. i could make a 2nd cd that ran a script and had them on it but i dont know how to put them in the installer
[03:36] <CarlFK> stew2 - 4) take those files home and make your own little local apt-get repository - like explained https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocalAptGetRepositories or https://www.bioinformatics.uwaterloo.ca/~tvinar/wiki/index.php?DebianLinuxPackaging
[03:36] <stew2> Chris_Tucker, Hey! That'd be great!
[03:36] <Chris_Tucker> heh -_-
[03:36] <Chris_Tucker> do you know any bash scripting?
[03:36] <stew2> Chris_Tucker, No.
[03:36] <stew2> Chris_Tucker, Sorry.
[03:37] <Chris_Tucker> well learn how to make a simple script
[03:37] <Chris_Tucker> and learn how to have this script load on cd insert
[03:37] <guim> Dimitri?
[03:37] <Chris_Tucker> then plant your .deb files you got with wget on there
[03:37] <cisco> can anyone help I get "Temporary failure in Name Resolution" right after clock at boot up ?
[03:37] <Chris_Tucker> and make your script install them in the right order so dependancies work
[03:38] <Chris_Tucker> or you could "slipstream" them in, as CarlFK started to explain
[03:38] <rob^> cisco, yes, it couldnt look up the dns address of the time server
[03:38] <rob^> it may mean your internet connection was not up yet
[03:38] <rob^> you can disable it
[03:39] <cisco> no
[03:39] <othernoob> rob^: how?
[03:39] <slask3n> I did a expert-install and copied the remaining packages to disk so i dont need inserting the disc all the time, but then i accidentaly pressed enter on the "apt configure"-something and now it doesnt know that the packages is on the disk and asks for the cd, how can i change it back, or what should i write in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:40] <stew2> hopefully I can just steal broadband off the neighboor
[03:40] <stew2> or 'borrow' it. I'll give it back.
[03:40] <cisco> ok i was using a wireless card maybe that problem pcmcia services not started yet then.
[03:41] <CarlFK> stew2 - evaluateing it
[03:41] <rob^> to disable the clock sync on startup: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[03:43] <Chris_Tucker> hm ok ive installed my samba stuff, how do i access the computer (lan ip) 10.251.81.32?
[03:43] <rob^> Chris_Tucker, can you ping it?
[03:43] <Chris_Tucker> networ:/// is the default prefix it puts there but it doesnt work
[03:43] <Chris_Tucker> hm one sec
[03:44] <Chris_Tucker> yes
[03:44] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - do you have apache running? (that will be easier for the repo thing)
[03:44] <rob^> Chris_Tucker, have you tried Places -> network servers
[03:45] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK im not at that point yet, im figureing out once ive gotten my stuff with wget, how to land it on one of these windows computers to get it on my thumbdrive
[03:45] <Chris_Tucker> rob^ that has returned cannot access
[03:45] <Chris_Tucker> when i click on this domain
[03:45] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[03:45] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - got it.
[03:45] <Seveas> ah nvm
[03:46] <Will_> Gah. I'm too tired for this. I've slept too much these holidays, and I can't get out of the habit.
[03:46] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - why not plug the thumb drive into the box that you wget ed the files?
[03:46] <Chris_Tucker> woot i got access
[03:46] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK, never got this thing to work on linux before
[03:46] <Chris_Tucker> if i plug it in where will it appear?
[03:47] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - it will if it is a good distro ;)
[03:47] <Chris_Tucker> if i plug it in where will it appear?
[03:47] <din> Chris_Tucker, prob /dev/sda
[03:47] <CarlFK> oh... where... um.. desktop?
[03:47] <benny_> what is ubuntus kernel directory?
[03:47] <Chris_Tucker> ok
[03:47] <benny_> what is the path  i should ask
[03:48] <Chris_Tucker> Oh Em Gee!
[03:48] <sph> Is there a separate channel for ubuntu-ppc?
[03:48] <Chris_Tucker> OMG!
[03:48] <Chris_Tucker> damn i like this
[03:48] <Seveas> sph, no
[03:48] <Chris_Tucker> it picked it up instantly
[03:48] <Seveas> benny_, /usr/src/linux
[03:49] <Antinomy> OMG = the rap name of Ice cube's son (Oh My Goodness)
[03:50] <sph> has anyone tried to modify ubuntu-5.04 ppc so it will boot on an old world mac by using bootX instead of yaboot?
[03:50] <Chris_Tucker> it appeared on the desktop and as /media/usbdisk/
[03:51] <cisco> ok is there way to make pcmcia services start before ntpdate clock ?
[03:51] <nalioth> sph: yes, it can be done, i helped a guy t'other day do it (look for Harold in here)
[03:51] <sph> :) great
[03:51] <benny_> OK, don't laugh
[03:51] <benny_> benny@konflict:~$ cd /usr/src/linux
[03:52] <benny_> bash: cd: /usr/src/linux: No such file or directory
[03:53] <trakatran> ubuntu doesnt install de sources
[03:53] <qt2> sph, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallOnOldWorldMacs
[03:54] <sph> qt2, nalioth: thanks
[03:54] <Chris_Tucker> has anyone here tried using synergy on ubuntu?
[03:55] <cafuego> !wiki InstallOnOldWorldMacs
[03:55] <din> Chris_Tucker, no, but i use x2x with it right now :p
[03:55] <Chris_Tucker> x2x = ?
[03:56] <din> x2x is close to synergy, i control 3 comps in my office with 1 mouse and kb
[03:56] <Chris_Tucker> hm
[03:56] <Chris_Tucker> its not cross compatable with windows is it?
[03:56] <Chris_Tucker> cafuego what we are talking about is gui
[03:56] <din> no, it isn't
[03:56] <din> but synergy is afaik
[03:57] <cafuego> Chris_Tucker: vnc
[03:57] <qt2> Chris_Tucker, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynergyHowto
[03:57] <Chris_Tucker> yea i know din
[03:57] <Chris_Tucker> omh
[03:57] <Chris_Tucker> omg
[03:57] <rob^> Chris_Tucker, I just use XliveCD on windows systems
[03:57] <rob^> with ssh
[03:57] <Chris_Tucker> the wiki has everything
[03:57] <cafuego> run vnc through an ssh tunnel, works fine too.
[03:57] <qt2> whats what wiki's are good for ;)
[03:57] <Chris_Tucker> cafuego, i dont need teh vid going too, just keyb and mouse :)
[03:58] <Chris_Tucker> synergy is like a kvm just doesnt switch the vid and is software
[03:58] <Chris_Tucker> no lag either :)
[03:58] <cafuego> Chris_Tucker: that's not very useful for a box 2000km away ;-)
[03:58] <din> cafuego, with x2x or synergy, all you do is just pull your mouse to the side of the display, and voila.. it shows up on the next computer
[03:58] <Chris_Tucker> cafuego, i use vnc in those cases
[03:58] <Chris_Tucker> :)
[03:58] <silveruno> is there any danish people here, that can help me i danish please
[03:59] <ellric> hello guys
[03:59] <qt2> silveruno, help you do what exactly?
[03:59] <Ng> what should one do with reports of broken multiverse packages?
[03:59] <qt2> `lo ellric.
[03:59] <silveruno> i need to install java
[03:59] <Ng> silveruno: look in the wiki
[03:59] <qt2> Ng, bugzilla perhaps?
[03:59] <silveruno> wiki ?
[03:59] <Ng> silveruno: url is in the topic, go there and search for java :)
[03:59] <Seveas> silveruno: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[03:59] <qt2> silveruno, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:00] <Ng> qt2: hmm, I thought they weren't supposed to go in there, but that was a while ago
[04:00] <ellric> can someone direct me to a ubuntu packet archive? im looking for a kernel image package < 2.6.10
[04:00] <Chris_Tucker> holy shit
[04:00] <Chris_Tucker> they have made it REALLY easy to use synergy on ubuntu
[04:00] <Seveas> ellric, there are only packages for warty (old ubuntu version) with older kernels like that
[04:00] <qt2> Ng, just guessing, i dont know.
[04:00] <ellric> any ETA on 2.6.12 then?
[04:00] <silveruno> thanks, ill try
[04:00] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, whats synergy
[04:00] <qt2> ellric, for? breezy? hoary? warty?
[04:01] <ellric> hoary
[04:01] <Chris_Tucker> synergy lets you use two computers, in the graphical interface, with one keyboard and mouse
[04:01] <Chris_Tucker> drag your mouse to teh edge of one screen it appears on the next
[04:01] <Chris_Tucker> it does this via your network, and usually without any lag
[04:01] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, wow
[04:01] <zyth> Does ubuntu support Esperanto as a language?
[04:02] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, i can see some wicked uses in the office now :)
[04:02] <qt2> ellric, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42138
[04:02] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, thanks for that little droplet of enlightenment.
[04:02] <Seveas> zyth, yes
[04:02] <Chris_Tucker> killapop, im testing it here at work with ubuntu livecd and windows 98. (i forgot to mention its cross platform)
[04:03] <Seveas> zyth, language-support-eo - metapackage for Esperanto language support
[04:03] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, jeeeez
[04:03] <Chris_Tucker> i'll be usign it at home with xp and ubuntu
[04:03] <zyth> Seveas, thank you :)
[04:03] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, i'll hook up my ubuntufied laptop now and see :))))
[04:03] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, do u need it installed on both platforms.. one running as a host like vnc or anyhting?
[04:04] <Chris_Tucker> yes
[04:04] <ellric> qt2, whats Breezy?
[04:04] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, ok cool
[04:04] <Chris_Tucker> read the manuals. i tried to do it without reading them on windows - windows .. and its very hard if you dont read them
[04:04] <qt2> ellric, the current develpment version of ubuntu
[04:05] <killapop> Chris_Tucker, alrighty
[04:05] <drgplace> hello all
[04:05] <ellric> so there will be no 2.6.11+ for hoary?
[04:05] <Chris_Tucker> http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/index.html << and >>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynergyHowto
[04:07] <phixion> Can anyone give me some info please? What should I run after a fresh install of Ubuntu? 'upgrade', 'dist-upgrade' or do it through ubuntu update manager?
[04:07] <Seveas> phixion, upgrade
[04:07] <Seveas> and you should also have the security repositories enabled :)
[04:08] <phixion> I use the repositories in ubuntuguide.org, is that ok?
[04:08] <Chris_Tucker> how do i find out the dns name of my livecd run?
[04:08] <Seveas> phixion, NO
[04:08] <phixion> which ones should I be using? :)
[04:09] <Seveas> phixion: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[04:09] <robert__> Quick question re: partitioning during ubuntu install...
[04:09] <Chris_Tucker> bleh
[04:09] <Chris_Tucker> its jsut .. ubuntu..
[04:10] <Chris_Tucker> lol
[04:10] <drgplace> i upgrade to breezy an when it rebooted it now will not give me a windows session can some help
[04:10] <phixion> Seveas, should i delete the repositories in my sources.list and add them? or add them to the end?
[04:10] <robert__> I am replacing Fedora Core 4 with Ubuntu, already have a / and /home partition set up...
[04:10] <ellric> does anyone else is having problems with accessing SATA drives on a AMD64 system (32 bit ubuntu) with kernel 2.6.10?
[04:10] <Seveas> phixion, delete and add
[04:11] <robert__> During install process, I reformatted / and kept /home as is...
[04:11] <phixion> Seveas, thanks for the help
[04:11] <Joose^> hi
[04:11] <Seveas> phixion, wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/pastebin.php?download=38 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:11] <qt2> ...i dont understand why ubuntu doenst allow people to upgrade to the latest ernel via synapti... i mean... dont they want people to have the latest kernel+ubuntuedits?
[04:11] <robert__> But when I boot into ubuntu it logs me out immediately.
[04:11] <phixion> thankyou mate :)
[04:11] <qt2> most other distro's handle it that way, and ti seems to be a very good way to handle it... o.O;
[04:12] <Seveas> robert__, you might need to delete .Xauthority and .ICEauthority from your homedit
[04:12] <Seveas> homedir*
[04:12] <robert__> There was an option in the partitioning stage of the install that asked me if I wanted to "use" certain partitions
[04:12] <qt2> robert__, there's some files you need to remove to regain access.
[04:12] <robert__> qt2 -- the .Xauthority and .ICEauthority that seveas just mentioned?
[04:13] <tbasten> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51031
[04:13] <qt2> robert__, probably.
[04:15] <robert__> So I should just remove .Xauthority and .ICEauthority and reboot.
[04:15] <Joose^> ubuntu can be configurated (graphics, etc) for run with no much memory ram=
[04:15] <Joose^> ?
[04:15] <drgplace> how do i get x-window do restart
[04:15] <CarlFK> I wonder if apt-get upgrade would work with: alias wget='echo wget $1>>gets.sh'
[04:15] <phixion> Joose^, you tried using xfce?
[04:15] <CarlFK> drgplace - ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:15] <Joose^> no...
[04:15] <phixion> desktop environment, meant to be good for low end pcs
[04:16] <Chris_Tucker> OMG, IMO, synergy is better than dual monitors.
[04:16] <drgplace> I have upgraded to breezy an when it reboot it want start x-windows now.
[04:16] <Joose^> is in ubuntu, u can choose in the install not?
[04:16] <robert__> I'll take that as a yes. Thanks!
[04:17] <qt2> tbasten, tried doing it with compolsite disabled?
[04:17] <Joose^> phixion is in ubuntu, u can choose in the install not?
[04:18] <phixion> try looking for it in synaptic
[04:18] <phixion> brb
[04:18] <slask3n> I did a expert-install and copied the remaining packages to disk so i dont need inserting the disc all the time, but then i accidentaly pressed enter on the "apt configure"-something and now it doesnt know that the packages is on the disk and asks for the cd, how can i change it back, or what should i write in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:18] <holycow> heh
[04:18] <qt2> Joose^, it's in synaptic.
[04:19] <holycow> looks like the ubuntu fellas just added firefoxes last 'patch set' that makes fox crash with certain extensions
[04:19] <holycow> yey!
[04:19] <holycow> :)
[04:19] <qt2> holycow, lol.
[04:19] <Joose^> phixion oka
[04:19] <qt2> holycow, so they ported over the bugs too, eh? ;)
[04:20] <holycow> ehe, i just updated and fox stopped working :)
[04:20] <holycow> beautiful thing about linux is its so easy to get most apps to behave
[04:20] <holycow> just by deleting the user preferences for the app
[04:22] <phixion> Seveas, how can I upgrade firefox now? I have version 1.0.2, I don't think I have the right repositories to upgrade it
[04:22] <Joose^> i'm new ubuntu user and i wonder how i install for example a driver for the sound card, ubuntu find the driver or is manually the process?
[04:22] <Seveas> phixion, you have 1.0.2 with all 1.0.3/4/5 security patches applied
[04:22] <slask3n> I did a expert-install and copied the remaining packages to disk so i dont need inserting the disc all the time, but then i accidentaly pressed enter on the "apt configure"-something and now it doesnt know that the packages is on the disk and asks for the cd, how can i change it back, or what should i write in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:22] <Chris_Tucker> i wonder how nice edubuntu is gonna be
[04:22] <slask3n> ?
[04:23] <phixion> ok, so my system is fully up to date now?
[04:23] <Seveas> slask3n, remove the CD entry from /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:23] <Seveas> phixion, if after you edited sources.list you typed apt-get update && apt-get upgrade: yes
[04:23] <xav> hi everyone! i am using breezy at the moment and having some troubles with xorg and xkb... xorg tells me it couldnt find the keymap
[04:23] <phixion> Seveas, ok thankyou for the help :-)
[04:24] <Seveas> xav, looko at the topic...
[04:24] <xav> although iam pretty im using the right steeings
[04:24] <qt2> Joose^, what sound card?
[04:24] <xav> seveas: too late :)
 i wonder how nice edubuntu is gonna be <-- man, i don't speak english very well...
[04:24] <Joose^> qt2 yes
[04:24] <xav> seveas: i ve been running it for more than one month now
[04:24] <Seveas> xav, X in breezy is simply broken... no matter what your config is...
[04:24] <qt2> joolz, huh?
[04:24] <Chris_Tucker> ern,.. edubuntu is the educational version of ubuntu
[04:25] <xav> seveas: okay... i ll wait then
[04:25] <qt2> xav, you're outta luck till x is fixed. ;)
 i was thinking than u say that for me.. xD
[04:25] <xav> qt2: at least most of my keyboard is correctly working :)
[04:25] <Joose^> sorry
[04:25] <qt2> xav, indeed.
[04:26] <qt2> Joose^, so what sound card do you have?
[04:26] <xav> qt2: ... but it gets hard to do some latex work under emacs :(
[04:26] <Joose^> soundblaster
[04:27] <qt2> Joose^, which one?
[04:27] <xav> joose it should be automatically detected
[04:27] <qt2> Joose^, what zav said.
[04:28] <Joose^> qt2 yeah i know but in case don't detected it .. how install the driver...
[04:28] <Joose^> ?
[04:28] <xav> any idea when the fglrx driver for breezy will be released ,, (no xkb so no question mark)
[04:28] <xav> joose are u sure it is not mute
[04:28] <phixion> what do I need in the options part in my fstab file to make the HDD's appear in "computer"? 'users,defaults,errors=remount-ro'?
[04:29] <qt2> Joose^, if it's not detected, you can come back here, and people will help you. :)
[04:30] <Joose^> xav no, ubuntu detected it, i answerinf how install drivers in ubuntu...i mean.... how install a driver for example a sound card...!
[04:31] <megauser> hello ;-)
[04:31] <Gourami> hi Seveas please see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/715 re my mnt problem
[04:31] <Joose^> for the console .. i guess..
[04:32] <qt2> joolz, it varies from driver to driver.
[04:32] <qt2> oops
[04:32] <qt2> Joose^, it varies from driver to driver.
[04:33] <Joose^> qt2 ok... ; =
[04:33] <qt2> Joose^, most drivers can either be installed via synaptic, or downloaded and installed, with instructions on the webpage you downloaded them from.
[04:33] <phixion> Seveas, how do I install java now? its not in my repositories
[04:33] <Joose^> qt2 ummm now understand...
[04:34] <Seveas> phixion, download the jdk.bin from java.sun.com and run fakeroot make-jpkg jre_....bin
[04:35] <Scognito> hi
[04:35] <fresco> hello brothers!
[04:35] <weiers_> I did something very silly. I reinstalled Ubuntu because I could not get my new Nvidia card to work in a plug and play way. But when I reinstalled, i forgot to tell Ubuntu to put my /home/weiers directory on the partition hda7. Can somebody tell me how to change my fstab to do this?
[04:36] <gigaclon> anyway to change the Java theme in firefox
[04:37] <jazzbass_> bon alors j'ai regarg pour mon problme de vido
[04:37] <Seveas> jazzbass_, #ubuntu n'est pas un canal franais
[04:37] <Antinomy> anyone know of a good calendar app for ubu?
[04:37] <Seveas> jazzbass_, va  #ubuntu-fr pour franais
[04:37] <r0d> weiers,  how many harddrives do you have 7?
[04:38] <weiers_> I have two harddrives. HDA and SDA
[04:38] <qt2> http://moon.google.com/
[04:38] <Seveas> r0d, hda7 = 3rd logical partition on second primary
[04:38] <r0d> ahh logicall never used
[04:38] <r0d> whats the point to logical anyways
[04:38] <Antinomy> anyone know of a good calendar app for ubu?
[04:39] <sph> you can only have 4 primary - so you split one primary into several logical to get around the limit.
[04:39] <weiers_> When I look at my fstab, I do not see another dev/hda...... /home/weiers entry, but when I add /dev/hda7     /home/weiers default 0 0 entry, I cannot reboot
[04:39] <weiers_> At least the moment I moun /home/weiers the system stops working
[04:40] <Gourami> please can someone help me mounting a share on a remote computer, we are on a domain if that helps
[04:41] <erchache> hi
[04:41] <Antinomy> Folks - anyone know about what I can do to get UBU to recognize my keyboard?
[04:41] <fresco> Sorry, can someone give me an advice. How to allow only one copy of the process in memory? The thing is... How to make xine not to open files in several windows?
[04:41] <Antinomy> this is my 3rd install
[04:41] <erchache> im triying to install ubuntu amd64 but doesnt have sata_nv modules....how i can get it?
[04:41] <ruschi> Hi fellows. Is ther eabybody who can run "sketch" it fails with strange errors?
[04:41] <weiers_> Gourami, what networking programs do you have installed?
[04:42] <ruschi> error is in some tk call: TypeError: function takes at most 4 arguments (8 given)
[04:42] <sproingie> erchache: try getting linux-restricted-modules
[04:42] <Gourami> on Ubuntu or MS ? (local machine Ubuntu - remote 2003 server) I have samba and smbfs on the local machine
[04:42] <erchache> uhmm
[04:42] <erchache> sproingie: where?
[04:42] <dataw0lf> good morning people.
[04:42] <weiers_> ok, then I am not really qualified to help you. I did it for the first time today between two ubuntu computers using nfs.
[04:43] <qt2> "Studies have shown that grilled cheese on toast is 97% better than libtool."
[04:43] <Seveas> Gourami, try accessing it via places -> connect to server
[04:43] <sproingie> erchache: from apt.  should be linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-6-amd64-k8
[04:43] <erchache> hehehehe
[04:43] <erchache> im triying to INSTALL
[04:43] <erchache> you know
[04:43] <sproingie> erchache: actually i'm not sure that has sata_nv ... i thought it came with it
[04:43] <qt2> gotta love planet.ubuntulinux.org... ;)
[04:43] <Gourami> Seveas: it works via places, I can even right click and say mount
[04:43] <amichai> how do i reinstall an app?
[04:43] <Scognito> ive just installed hoary but cannot play mp3
[04:43] <weiers_> please, is anybody willing to help me change the place where I mount my /home folder?
[04:44] <Scognito> i read the wiki but gstreamer0.8-mad is not avaiable in the extra
[04:44] <sproingie> erchache: actually i think mine came with them.  what motherboard do you have?
[04:44] <Scognito> nor in universe
[04:44] <Scognito> some hin?
[04:44] <GusWrk> hey guys, I'm looking for a tool to monitor my network (kinda like ethereal) but that will alert me when traffic goes over a certain volume.  any ideas?
[04:44] <Gourami> Seveas: I cant get it working via the terminal (I want to set up a cron to copy files)
[04:44] <sproingie> how do i find out what package a file belongs to?
[04:44] <sph> nmap?
[04:44] <amichai> anybody?
[04:44] <amichai> how do i uninstall firefox?
[04:45] <reka> Scognito: it *is* in universe afaik
[04:45] <sproingie> i wonder if i just tought uboto a faq
[04:45] <GusWrk> nmap is just port scanning
[04:45] <sproingie> taught even
[04:45] <reka> Scognito: you enabled it?
[04:45] <fresco> amichai
[04:45] <Scognito> mmm
[04:45] <fresco> go to Synaptic package manager
[04:45] <amichai> fresco: ?
[04:45] <fresco> and uncheck firefox
[04:46] <Gourami> Seveas: did you see the output nick@ZATRM087:~$ sudo bash addsamba
[04:46] <Scognito> reka, i added deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:46] <weiers_> sproingie ... who was that comment aimed at. Are you able to help me change my the place where my /home directory is mounted
[04:46] <Scognito> as the wiki says
[04:46] <amichai> fresco: no cos it unistalls a bunch of dependencies i just want the apt-get command
[04:46] <reka> Scognito: which wiki might that be :-/
[04:46] <amichai> fresco: apt-get --reinstall or whatever
[04:46] <reka> ?
[04:46] <Scognito> the official
[04:46] <Poet_Will\> hello all
[04:46] <Scognito> in the topic
[04:46] <ruschi> apropos firefox: Still strange effects here under KDE. firefox does not react on keyboard entries nor does it follow links i clicked
[04:46] <slask3n> Why do I get this "Could not open resource for writing." errormessage all the time for?
[04:46] <sproingie> weiers_: just copy over the old /home to the new location then change it in fstab
[04:46] <joolz> i have serious mozilla-firefox problems in hoary since this mornings update
[04:46] <fresco> System-Administration-Synaptic Package Manager
[04:46] <joolz> constant segmentation faults
[04:47] <joolz> is it a known issue?
[04:47] <reka> Scognito: direct link to page?
[04:47] <sproingie> weiers_: make sure you use cp -a or you'll hose everyone's permissions
[04:47] <reka> Scognito: that looks like backports
[04:47] <Scognito> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:47] <reka> Scognito: for a sample sources.list with universe and multiverse enabled: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[04:47] <Scognito> btw i edited manually sources.list
[04:47] <slask3n> Why do I get this "Could not open resource for writing." errormessage all the time when i try runing a movie/mp3 for?
[04:48] <ruschi> in Firefox I can't type any url or fill out forms but opening links in new tab works, just I can't switch the tab then
[04:48] <sproingie> erchache: anyway, i have a amd64 on an nvidia mobo with only sata, and both ubuntu and kubuntu installed fine ... not sure what the problem is, but sata_nv should be on the install cd
[04:48] <joolz> anyone else have firefox segmentation faults since the last update?
[04:48] <ruschi> no
[04:48] <weiers_> sproingie ... ok, I am not quite sure which one is old and which one is new. Is the old one the one that I had on a previous install?
[04:48] <frank> joolz: its a common problem
[04:48] <fresco> Hey, folks. What does "Following applications won't be upgraded - firefox, firefox-gnome-support" ?
[04:49] <ruschi> just upgraded and it runs except fro the problems I told you before
[04:49] <joolz> has someone already filed a bug?
[04:49] <frank> yeah and the guy who made the package knows
[04:49] <sproingie> weiers_: i don't know what your particular setup is.  you're trying to reinstall without changing /home?  don't reformat /home, and it shouldn't destroy it
[04:49] <joolz> fresco: i guess it means good news for you :)
[04:49] <JanC> fresco : sounds like you use backports ?
[04:49] <joolz> frank: ok, thanks
[04:49] <fresco> :)
[04:50] <Gourami> SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it ??? what does that mean
[04:50] <jeran> Okay.. viruses aren't an issue for Linux.. what about spyware/adware?
[04:50] <rob^> jeran, nope
[04:50] <Scognito> got it working, tnx re
[04:50] <Scognito> ka
[04:50] <reka> Scognito: aha
[04:50] <weiers_> sproingie ... what happened is that I had a /home/weiers under a previous install on a seperate partition. I then reinstalled ubuntu, but neglected to tell the installer to keep that partition as home. it has now made a new /home partition (exactly the same name as my old home partition, but in the place that used to be only my root partition.
[04:50] <frank> joolz: the easiest way to update is to install the official firefox as a user
[04:50] <fresco> Well, yes
[04:50] <reka> Scognito: the repo you pasted is hoary-extras
[04:51] <fresco> am I doin' wrong?
[04:51] <weiers_> but now that space is very small, and all my settigns etc is in the other partition. sproingie
[04:51] <reka> Scognito: the topic with gstreamer0.8-mad tells you to look at section 2, which shows you how to enable universe and multiverse.
[04:51] <erchache> sproingie: im trying to install via netboot
[04:51] <erchache> i dont have cdrom
[04:51] <reka> Scognito: not hoary-extras :)
[04:51] <aio> i'm trying to find some information on connecting two pcs together via firewire for the purpose of filesharing.  anybody got any pointers?
[04:52] <rob^> aio, ouch
[04:52] <sproingie> erchache: ah. that's my usual preferred method too.  i guess unless you can find a netboot image that has the drivers, you'll need to burn a full iso
[04:52] <erchache> sproingie: when try to download release file fails....i think is for sata driver
[04:52] <erchache> i dont have cdrom!
[04:52] <erchache> im using pxe netboot
[04:52] <Antinomy> Anyone know what to do if UBUNTU doesn't recognize my keyboard after install?
[04:52] <Scognito> reka, eh he
[04:52] <rob^> ethernet is designed for data transfer, usb is designed for canon scanners <- or firewire in your case
[04:52] <phixion> buy a new keyboard Antinomy  :D
[04:52] <aio> rob^ painful to try?
[04:52] <stjepan> hello
[04:53] <erchache> sproingie: i doesnt have cdrom.....netboot pxe
[04:53] <Antinomy> phixion: so not funny at this point (third install)
[04:53] <stjepan> hello, Seveas
[04:53] <stjepan> where is Seveas?
[04:53] <sproingie> erchache: sounds like the problem may be at the remote end.  i don't know pxe unfortunately
[04:53] <aio> rob^ i've seen a link to do tcp/ip over firewire, but i'm not sure that's what i want.
[04:53] <dj28> rob^: firewire is fine for large data transfer
[04:53] <erchache> :S
[04:53] <dj28> in fact it's recognized as a networking device in most OSes
[04:53] <rob^> aio, I cant think of a good guide, if you already have nics in your pc thats a much easier way to do it
[04:53] <sproingie> weiers_: just go into fstab and change the partition it mounts for /home to the old one
[04:53] <aio> rob^ yeah - i'm specifically looking to access and manipulate video dumps - very large avi files.
[04:53] <slask3n> I get this error when try running a mediafile "Totem could not play 'file:///home/slask3n/Kai Tracid - Too many times.mp3'. - Could not open resource for writing." anyone knows why?rr
[04:53] <sproingie> weiers_:  then if you have new data in your new /home, just mount it somewhere else and copy the files over
[04:54] <aio> rob^ 100mbit is just going to be dog slow....
[04:54] <rob^> aio, well firewire may suit you better for that
[04:54] <rob^> but your case is not the norm
[04:54] <aio> rob^ I *could* do nfs, but that'd just be painful...
[04:54] <Antinomy> Anyone know what to do if UBUNTU doesn't recognize my keyboard after install?
[04:55] <rob^> aio, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26192.html
[04:55] <willert> Antinomy: what kind of keyboard do you have, anything special?
[04:55] <rob^> not sure how much info is there, might give you some pointers
[04:55] <Antinomy> willert: Nope, it's built in on my laptop
[04:55] <weiers_> sproingie ... my fstab has a /proc mount and a / mount and a none mount (swap) and then it mounts the cdrom and the floppy, but I do not see the /home mount there. Do I just create it?
[04:56] <willert> Antinomy: you are on hoary?
[04:56] <Antinomy> willert: compaq presario 4000 series AMD
[04:56] <Antinomy> willert: yes
[04:56] <dj28> aio: http://www.linux1394.org/eth1394.php
[04:56] <dj28> aio: might want to check that out too
[04:56] <dj28> not sure if it will help
[04:56] <Antinomy> willert: BUT - installed from x86 instead of 64
[04:56] <sproingie> weiers_: your /home is just a subdir of your root dir, so you don't need to worry about remounting it.  you will have to mv it to some other name tho
[04:56] <willert> Antinomy: and you can't type anything after boot-up?
[04:56] <Antinomy> willert: yep..nothing even in single mode
[04:57] <aio> rob^ looking at that link now, thx
[04:57] <Antinomy> willert: I blew away my dual boot and reinstalled - same problem
[04:57] <rob^> np
[04:57] <aio> dj28 i'll check that out, too, thx
[04:57] <sproingie> weiers_: mv /home /oldhome; mkdir /home; mount /dev/whatever /home; cp -a /oldhome/* /home
[04:57] <stjepan> heya
[04:57] <stjepan> I have adsl
[04:57] <stjepan> downloading works perfect
[04:57] <stjepan> but surfing is very slow
[04:57] <sproingie> weiers_: then edit /etc/fstab to point /home at the old home partition partition .  delete /oldhome when you verify everything works
[04:57] <stjepan> can you help me?
[04:59] <weiers_> sproingie,  I don't beleive I have anything in my current home (soon to be /oldhome) that I want to copy. ... this install is just about 30 minutes old. can I just move it and delete it then.
[04:59] <amichai> exit
[04:59] <stjepan> look
[04:59] <amichai> q
[04:59] <Stranjo> hlw, how can I change the locale of my distro?
[04:59] <sproingie> weiers_: yeah, probably
[04:59] <stjepan> hey
[05:00] <sproingie> weiers_: if you upgraded distros, you'll probably want to move your old .gnome dirs out of the way
[05:00] <stjepan> where can I paste log?
[05:00] <willert> Antinomy: sorry, I don't think I can help you there... my keyboard problem was due to the X transition in breeyz and I've no experiences with amd64 at all... do you have any chance to try the amd64 installer instead of the x86?
[05:01] <ruschi> q
[05:01] <ruschi> quit
[05:01] <Gourami> Seveas: I found the problem I think, its a windows 2003 server restriction http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8479&highlight=cli_negprot%3A+SMB+signing+mandatory+disabled+it.
[05:01] <nalioth> reka: ya been here all this time?
[05:01] <Antinomy> willert: I will try it now...thanks
[05:02] <reka> nalioth: somewhat
[05:02] <stjepan> so?
[05:02] <stjepan> where can I paste log?
[05:02] <nalioth> sproingie: #flood
[05:02] <stjepan> I want to show it to you!
[05:02] <stjepan> 
[05:02] <reka> *sigh*
[05:02] <sproingie> nalioth: yeah but that's a nasty hack
[05:03] <sproingie> nalioth: i guess a pasteserv wouldn't have all that nice hilighting and commenting either
[05:04] <MIK3MAN> hey peeps
[05:04] <stjepan> so?
[05:05] <MIK3MAN> anyone know the command like apt-get, but its like apt-find, it searches for packages??
[05:05] <Gourami> ok I now have my mount !! how do I refer to it from a terminal ??
[05:05] <stjepan> hey geks
[05:05] <stjepan> geeks
[05:06] <stjepan> http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1345KHML35MKU0TYGNKX3S86KY
[05:06] <stjepan> download this
[05:06] <stjepan> it is log
[05:07] <weiers_> sproingie , I think i did it right, but I am getting error when I say : mount /home/weiers: mount point  /home/weiers does not exist
[05:08] <weiers_> or do I need to create a new directory on the root partition called, home/weiers?
[05:08] <Gourami> what is the reference to go to a mount from the terminal ? //mountname eg ?
[05:09] <sproingie> weiers_: you just mount /home.  and you need to change your fstab if you're going to mount without giving it a partition
[05:09] <sproingie> Gourami: you just cd to the directory
[05:09] <JingleBells> i've been having trouble setting up VNC to work on :0 desktop
[05:09] <sproingie> Gourami: that's what mount does.  makes a partiton available as a directory
[05:09] <qt2> should i be installing any special nvidia driver for a geforce 4 mx 440?
[05:09] <stjepan> so?
[05:09] <stjepan> can you help me?
[05:09] <JingleBells> it works, provided i'm on the machine and click the "Allow access to this desktop" button that appears
[05:10] <weiers_> Sproingie... so I have now added the following line to etc/fstab
[05:10] <Gourami> sproingie: where does the directory sit (virtually)
[05:10] <JingleBells> which is useless when i'm not at the machine
[05:10] <sproingie> Gourami: wherever you mounted it
[05:10] <weiers_> /dev/hda7    /home    ext3    defaults   0     0
[05:10] <reka> qt2: depends ... if you want 3d accel/direct rendering, then yeah, probably.
[05:10] <sproingie> Gourami: usually the dir itself is in the root partition
[05:10] <Gourami> I cant find it under home
[05:10] <qt2> reka, hm, my card already has direct rendering it seems <.<;
[05:10] <sproingie> weiers_: ok, that looks good.  did you move the old /home out of the way?
[05:11] <JingleBells> I followed http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/x0.html is there anyway to stop the dialog that appeared?
[05:11] <weiers_> yes, sproingie
[05:11] <sproingie> Gourami: i lack the context, not sure what the problem you're having is
[05:11] <weiers_> now I type: mount /home  (sproingie
[05:11] <sproingie> weiers_: create a /home directory (mkdir /home)
[05:11] <weiers_> then it says: mount point /home does not exist
[05:11] <weiers_> ok ... I will create
[05:11] <reka> qt2: then you're good to go... (unless you want to see if there are any performance improvements with other drivers)
[05:12] <Gourami> sproingie: I have mounted a remote drive, under computer I now have the mount sitting there, I want to access it via the terminal. It is not a share on my local pc but on a remote server
[05:12] <xliu> anyone knows how to configure the shutdown window(it pops up when you choose Logout in the system menu)? As I reinstalled acpi and acpid yesterday, some choice element such as "suspend the system" disappers
[05:12] <sproingie> where did you mount it?
[05:12] <reka> stjepan: what are you trying to do?  what exactly is your problem?
[05:12] <qt2> reka, heh, i've learned not to mess with a good thing ;)
[05:12] <weiers_> WOW!!!!! Suddenly I get all my desktop icons back,
[05:12] <sproingie> Gourami: what command did you type to mount it?
[05:12] <sproingie> weiers_: sounds like it worked
[05:13] <gyaresu> hi folks
[05:13] <weiers_> I'm just looking because it still does not want to open my home folder in nautilus now
[05:13] <reka> qt2: understandable :)
[05:13] <Gourami> I used sudo bash addsamb sproingie
[05:13] <gyaresu> question: is nautilus capable of 'click + drag' selecting? cause i can't find any reference to it at all.
[05:13] <weiers_> sproingie... It also does not want to start my Thunderbird programme. I want to see if I still have al my old emails.
[05:13] <qt2> reka, i havent even touched my kernel yet o.o;
[05:14] <sproingie> Gourami: i have no idea how addsamb works ... sorry :(
[05:14] <thespiritoftal> hi
[05:15] <Whistler> I removed firefox and now i cant view help  files
[05:15] <reka> qt2: you make it sound like it's commonplace ... i've only recompiled once, and that was done by following instructions.
[05:15] <thespiritoftal> can someone tell me again how to install java in ubuntu? Today seveas has told me but I got disconnected :/
[05:15] <Whistler> any suggestions?
[05:15] <thespiritoftal> I have the .bin file already
[05:15] <Gourami> sproingie: is it smbmount or sudo smbmount ?
[05:15] <weiers_> sproingie (I wonder if I need to just log out and in)
[05:15] <Whistler> thespiritoftal www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:16] <reka> no
[05:16] <qt2> reka, it is if you're not using ubuntu.
[05:16] <erchache> well i install my own image mirror for ubuntu netboot install and fails
[05:16] <stjepan> can you help me/
[05:16] <stjepan> ?
[05:16] <tbasten> qt2, um it working but games are really laggy
[05:16] <reka> thespiritoftal: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]  (credit goes to Seveas)
[05:16] <erchache> i think i dont have sata driver installed
[05:16] <thespiritoftal> thx reka :)
[05:16] <erchache> yeha
[05:17] <Whistler> I removed firefox and now i cant view help  files
[05:17] <Whistler> any suggestions?
[05:17] <weiers_> sproingie - it does not even want to start my firefox now.
[05:17] <JingleBells> has _anyone_ run VNC on :0 ?
[05:17] <erchache> anybody know a netboot with sata enable?
[05:17] <reka> Whistler: reinstall firefox? :-/
[05:17] <erchache> how i can make my own netboot with sata?
[05:17] <Nermal> hmmmm
[05:18] <Nermal> any gstreamer plugins play m4a files ?
[05:18] <reka> Whistler: hmmm, looks like the help system is actually called 'yelp'
[05:18] <delire> great news: http://news.com.com/IBM+steps+into+open-source+Java+project/2100-7344_3-5798290.html?tag=nefd.top
[05:18] <stjepan> so?
[05:18] <stjepan> help me, please
[05:18] <Whistler> i know
[05:18] <stjepan> :(
[05:18] <reka> Whistler: maybe you removed that somehow...
[05:18] <Whistler> yelp: Depends: mozilla-firefox but it is not going to be installed
[05:18] <Nermal> ah.. faac
[05:18] <delire> Whistler: help fiels are in html. your default html reader is firefox. therefore you won't be able to read help file with your uninstalled default browser.
[05:18] <stjepan> :(
[05:19] <Amaranth> Whistler: Get rid of backports?
[05:19] <reka> stjepan: i don't know what your problem is....you never answered when i asked.
[05:19] <Whistler> so how can i make opera my default browser?
[05:19] <Amaranth> you can have opera be your default, you just have to leave firefox installed
[05:19] <Whistler> eem
[05:20] <delire> Whistler: there'll be something in the gnome control center to set this. have a poke around -- i don't use gnome here.
[05:20] <Amaranth> System->Preferences->Preferred Applications
[05:20] <sproingie> weiers_: not sure, it might not like the old profile info?  mozilla suite is notoriously fickle about old profiles
[05:20] <Whistler> Amaranth this sounds like windows that i have to have IE installed
[05:20] <Whistler> theres no opera in that list
[05:20] <Amaranth> Whistler: It's exactly the same, actually.
[05:20] <Amaranth> blame opera :P
[05:20] <Amaranth> they need to put themselves in that list
[05:20] <stjepan> sorry, reka?
[05:21] <stjepan> reka: can you repeat that, please?
[05:21] <Amaranth> Whistler: Windows uses IE for help, etc. Ubuntu uses firefox for help, etc.
[05:21] <Whistler> anyway what should i do tu make opera default?
[05:21] <Whistler> to
[05:21] <JingleBells> i'd rather have firefox installed than IE anyday :)
[05:21] <Whistler> me too
[05:21] <Whistler> =] 
[05:21] <delire> i'd rather be sitting on a beach earning 20%
[05:22] <nalioth> Whistler: system  > preferencec > preferred apps
[05:22] <Amaranth> eventually we'll have the gecko runtime environment seperate from firefox and yelp can just use it
[05:22] <delire> hmm
[05:22] <Whistler> nalioth theres no opera in that list
[05:22] <MIK3MAN> is there a repository I should be adding to install apt-get install java-package fakeroot??
[05:22] <Amaranth> Whistler: There is a 'custom' though.
[05:22] <nalioth> Whistler: i believe you can browse or add it
[05:22] <stjepan> reka?
[05:22] <Amaranth> MIK3MAN: multiverse
[05:22] <ep> What's a well regarded command line IRC client?
[05:23] <Amaranth> ep: irssi
[05:23] <stjepan> can you repeat that, pls?
[05:23] <weiers_> sproingie What is better. Reinstall the whole thing, but do it properly this time, or uninstall firefox and thunderbird and reinstall via synaptic?
[05:23] <Whistler> i am setting custom
[05:23] <MIK3MAN> Amaranth: I have it, and its updated
[05:23] <Whistler> opera %s
[05:23] <weiers_> sproingie, but as I said, I also cannot get nautilus to launch
[05:23] <Whistler> should i run enable run in terminal?
[05:24] <sproingie> weiers_: i don't know what's in your old home ... it might be better to just copy out your old /home somewhere else and selectively copy stuff back in (but not desktop stuff like icons, you'll want to recreate those)
[05:24] <nalioth> Whistler: opera is not a terminal program
[05:25] <MIK3MAN> Amaranth: correction, I dont have it, I have universe... can you show me??
[05:25] <nalioth> weiers_: sproingie is talking about all those nifty little .folders with your settings
[05:25] <Amaranth> !repositories
[05:25] <ubotu> repositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:25] <sproingie> weiers_: you can probably find your old mail file somewhere and reimport it, for example.  but using your old settings all at once may just cause pain
[05:25] <Amaranth> MIK3MAN: go there
[05:25] <erchache> how i can load scsi module on boot:  when i try to install?
[05:25] <erchache> i have sata
[05:25] <Whistler> any way of installing few apps via single apt-get command?
[05:25] <nalioths_dog> MIK3MAN: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[05:25] <Gourami> sproingie: if I go to computer the mount sits there exactly like filesystem does
[05:25] <nalioth> Whistler: list them on the same command
[05:25] <Amaranth> Whistler: sudo apt-get install foo bar baz
[05:25] <MIK3MAN> thanks guys!
[05:25] <Whistler> thx
[05:25] <sproingie> erchache: you should probably mention you're using PXE boot, lest people give you the same bad advice :)
[05:25] <sproingie> Gourami: a mount point is a filesystem
[05:26] <sproingie> when it's mounted anyway
[05:26] <Gourami> sproingie: how would you ref to that via terminal ?
[05:26] <sproingie> Gourami: you just cd to wherever you have it mounted
[05:26] <Gourami> \\mountname ?
[05:26] <sproingie> Gourami: i don't know where it puts smb mounts
[05:27] <Gourami> sproingie: thats my problem I dunno where it is
[05:27] <sproingie> Gourami: type 'mount' in a terminal
[05:27] <sproingie> Gourami: that will show you all your current mounts
[05:27] <Whistler> grr,
[05:27] <wing`> someone there can help me please?
[05:27] <sproingie> wing`: just ask
[05:27] <Gourami> ah ha /media/....
[05:27] <wing`> i downloaded enemy territory from 2 different website with 2 differente download managers and it gives me same fucking error
[05:28] <wing`> Md5 checksum
[05:28] <Gourami> what an odd place, thanks though sproingie
[05:28] <sproingie> media, what a wrong place to put smb mounts
[05:28] <wing`> error in md5 checksum
[05:28] <sproingie> it's probably a LSB thing
[05:28] <Gourami> sproingie: how can I kill it
[05:28] <sproingie> Gourami: umount /whatever/mount/point
[05:28] <sproingie> Gourami: note there's only one 'm' in umount.  blame at&t
[05:29] <wing`> sproingie, do you know how to fix that?
[05:29] <dverzolla> Hi, I want port the openoffice of Ubuntu-hoary to my default language (pt_BR). I find openoffice in the /pool/main/o/ directory. If I change the .deb's from default openoffice to my openoffice version this will work? My idea are do a CD for some students with total pt_BR support.
[05:29] <sproingie> Gourami: one 'n' even
[05:29] <sproingie> wing`: don't use the US repositories
[05:29] <sproingie> wing`: they appear to be permanently hosed
[05:29] <hacked`> guys, how do i know which driver my wifi card is using ?
[05:30] <wing`> ??, sry i dont get it
[05:30] <wing`> repositories?
[05:30] <reka> sproingie: interesting ... how is that at&t's fault?
[05:30] <Amaranth> reka: UNIX legacy
[05:30] <Gourami> sproingie: I get mount disagrees with fstab
[05:30] <thor|afk> sproingie: heh - I don't think he's getting enemy territory from a repo ;)
[05:31] <supernix> have they released a doc on how to secure ubuntu ?
[05:31] <wing`> im downloading it directly from IDSOFTWARE ftp
[05:31] <Gourami> sproingie: nevermind I had to do sudo
[05:32] <wing`> thor|afk, do you know what could be?
[05:32] <Whistler> can i have gnome and xfce installed at the same time?
[05:32] <weiers_> sproingie ... a logout and login got the programmes to work again
[05:32] <supernix> Whistler: I would think so I have Gnome and KDE at the same time
[05:33] <supernix> They are both just windows managers right ?
[05:33] <thor|afk> wing`: no idea, sorry - md5sum errors suggest bad downloads, of course
[05:33] <Amaranth> Whistler: I've got GNOME, KDE, and XFCE all on this machine.
[05:33] <dverzolla> Hi, I want port the openoffice of Ubuntu-hoary to my default language (pt_BR). I find openoffice in the /pool/main/o/ directory. If I change the .deb's from default openoffice to my openoffice version this will work? My idea are do a CD for some students with total pt_BR support.
[05:33] <supernix> what is XFCE ?
[05:33] <Whistler> Amaranth so can i just install?
[05:33] <Amaranth> !xfce
[05:33] <ubotu> Amaranth: Are you smoking crack?
[05:33] <Amaranth> haha
[05:33] <hondje> hehe
[05:33] <Whistler> =] 
[05:33] <Amaranth> Whistler: yeah
[05:33] <weiers_> sproingie ... thank you very much for your help. I just need to get my sound system to work properly. Last time Crimsun helped me with that by telling  uobotu bot to give me rirections. I might have saved the directions somewehere
[05:34] <hondje> supernix: XFce is a light weight desktop environment
[05:34] <supernix> ty hondje
[05:34] <hondje> It's pretty nice, worth looking at :)
[05:34] <reka> dverzolla: i could be wrong ... but check out the openoffice.org-l10n-pt-br package (portugese - brazil)
[05:34] <wing`> thor|afk, i used downloader for x, and after that i tried with the simple download manager from mozilla
[05:34] <wing`> and it doesnt works
[05:34] <JingleBells> tried wget?
[05:35] <Whistler> how do i install xfce?
[05:35] <dverzolla> reka, but if I junt put the file in the directory of CD installation and I burn a CD. The instalation will install the .br version?
[05:35] <JingleBells> have you got the URL for it wing`, i'll download it now
[05:35] <hondje> Whistler: 'sudo apt-get install xfce4' in a terminal
[05:35] <thor|afk> Whistler: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[05:35] <wing`> its a little big
[05:35] <wing`> 260mb
[05:36] <JingleBells> yeah, i'm on 10MBit :)
[05:36] <JingleBells> and i need to install ET anyway :)
[05:36] <wing`> ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/et/linux/et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[05:36] <reka> dverzolla: hmm, CD install ... that'll be tougher
[05:37] <dverzolla> reka, yes. I want distribute a CD with openoffice.BR for my students.
[05:37] <Whistler> and how do i start xfce?
[05:37] <JingleBells> pfft, what a crap FTP server
[05:37] <Amaranth> Whistler: log out and click the 'session' button
[05:37] <Amaranth> Whistler: on the login screen
[05:37] <wing`> its the official ftp
[05:37] <dverzolla> reka, I know if have a channel with ubuntu-developers?
[05:37] <dverzolla> reka, You know ;)
[05:38] <Whistler> ok ill try
[05:38] <Whistler> =] 
[05:38] <reka> dverzolla: not sure sorry ... i only know how you would go about changing it to brazilian after default english install
[05:38] <Quest-Master> dverzolla: #ubuntu-devel
[05:38] <erchache> fuck
[05:38] <Amaranth> erchache: Please don't swear.
[05:38] <dverzolla> reka, Ok, thanks
[05:38] <dverzolla> Quest-Master, Tks
[05:38] <erchache> i cant install ubuntu amd64 on my hp dl145 sata
[05:38] <reka> dverzolla: does the openoffice site provide a brazilian version?
[05:38] <erchache> i have a big problem on my job!
[05:38] <dverzolla> dverzolla, Yeap
[05:38] <Gourami> sudo mount or sudo smbmount ??
[05:38] <erchache> i never buy a hp server on my life
[05:39] <reka> dverzolla: is that yes for me?
[05:39] <dverzolla> reka, http://www.openoffice.org.br/saite/
[05:39] <dverzolla> reka, Yes ;)
[05:39] <reka> dverzolla: why not download that and install it for your students that way?
[05:40] <Gourami> to mount a remote share sudo mount or sudo smbmount ??
[05:40] <hypermodernist> Is there a Xen package for ubuntu or has anybody sucessfully installed Xen from the tarballs?
[05:40] <wing`> JingleBells, please tellme when you got the game
[05:40] <gyaresu> question: is nautilus capable of 'click + drag' selecting? cause i can't find any reference to it at all.
[05:41] <dverzolla> reka, I'm doing some CDs for students. They have very basic knowlegde about Linux.
[05:42] <reka> gyaresu: only in icon mode afaik
[05:43] <dabaR> hi.
[05:43] <gyaresu> reka, thanks, i'll look into it.
[05:43] <MIK3MAN> I have a problem : when I run the fakeroot make command it tells me that I should not be doing it as root, but as a non-root user. When I run as a non-root user I do not have permission to create the .deb file. Is there a work around this??
[05:44] <gigaclon> sudo?
[05:44] <wing`> someone there can help me with a lan problem?
[05:44] <DevGet> Is it possible to have booth kde and gnome installed?
[05:44] <bob2> MIK3MAN: use fakeroot as a normal user
[05:44] <gigaclon> yes
[05:44] <reka> DevGet: absolutely
[05:44] <bob2> that works fine for everyone else
[05:44] <bob2> aside from on like mipsel
[05:44] <delire> hypermodernist: a question that's been on my mind too. i see it's in SuSE..
[05:44] <DevGet> just install kubuntu-desktop?
[05:44] <gigaclon> ya
[05:45] <wing`> i got two cards, eth0 (router ADSL modem, configured with DHCP) and eth1 (direct connection to a windows XP machine) do i have to put IP Address and stuff in eth1, or just leave it DHCP too?
[05:45] <DevGet> k, thx :)
[05:45] <reka> DevGet: yes, if you want KDE
[05:45] <reka> DevGet: then jsut select it from the sessions menu at the login screen
[05:45] <bob2> wing`: depends what you want to do
[05:45] <bob2> it's find if you're ok to statically configure windows, too
[05:45] <DevGet> reka, k, so i will keep gdm as login manager?
[05:46] <wing`> bob2, i want to share the internet connection with the WIndows pc
[05:46] <reka> DevGet: yep
[05:46] <DevGet> good :)
[05:46] <bob2> wing`: yes, I know
[05:46] <Amaranth> fabbione: ??
[05:46] <Swoop|Around> question: how do i unpack a single file from a backup.tar.bz2 file ?
[05:47] <bob2> fabio uses like pana irci from 1943 or something
[05:47] <wing`> and i dont know what to put in the windows pc network meno (its all set to AUTO), and dont know what to put in eth1.. :/
[05:47] <fabbione> Amaranth: ?
[05:47] <Swoop|Around> somehow my xorg.conf is messed up (didnt touch it though since i havent used the computer for over 10 days, and worked before i left)
[05:47] <wing`> meno = menu
[05:47] <JingleBells> right, just downloading off a mirror wings, 1.1MB/sec :)
[05:47] <bob2> Swoop|Around: man tar, tar -jxf foo.tar.bz2 path/to/file
[05:47] <Amaranth> fabbione: what was that?
[05:47] <Swoop|Around> so i want to extract only the xorg.conf file from the backup.tar.bz2
[05:47] <bob2> wing`: well, decide what you want to do
[05:47] <Swoop|Around> thanks bob2 :D trying now
[05:47] <wing`> bob2, i dont know what to do, i just want it to work
[05:48] <bob2> wing`: well, you need to make some sort of decision
[05:48] <wing`> bob2, about what?
[05:48] <masterplan> hi, if i install the ubuntu AMD64 version, will all the packages i install be 64bit complaint/
[05:48] <bob2> wing`: go find a windows using friend and get them to show you how to configure windows with a statically assigned ip
[05:48] <wing`> i can do that
[05:48] <masterplan> what is BREEZY ?
[05:48] <bob2> masterplan: nearly all the packages in the ubuntu amd64 port are 64-bit amd64 binaries, yes
[05:49] <dabaR> wing`: its easy.
[05:49] <fabbione> Amaranth: my client remembers bans and kicks people on join if bans expired for any reason
[05:49] <bob2> masterplan: the development version of ubuntu, which is not ready for general users yet
[05:49] <sproingie> masterplan: yes, everything you install is 64bit.  you will probably want to add a 32bit chroot for some apps tho
[05:49] <dabaR>  /query me
[05:49] <masterplan> how can i know if a package is or not ?
[05:49] <wing`> but i dont know what gateway i should put, what ip address in both eth
[05:49] <bob2> masterplan: is it openoffice? no? then it's native.
[05:49] <bob2> wing`: the gateway is the internal ip of your linux machine
[05:49] <masterplan> k
[05:49] <masterplan> :)
[05:49] <sproingie> bob2: openoffice is 32bit?
[05:49] <masterplan> how can i find informatin on chrooting 32bit?
[05:49] <bob2> (afaik)
[05:50] <sproingie> !32bit
[05:50] <ubotu> sproingie: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:50] <masterplan> yeah
[05:50] <dabaR> gateway is usually not needed.
[05:50] <bob2> sproingie: I'm pretty sure it still doesn't build on amd64
[05:50] <sproingie> !chroot
[05:50] <wing`> bob2, ok so it is 192.168.254.1
[05:50] <ubotu> methinks chroot is at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[05:50] <bob2> dabaR: gateway is always needed
[05:50] <dabaR> for what?
[05:50] <masterplan> tnx
[05:50] <Amaranth> fabbione: we do unban some of those people...
[05:50] <sproingie> masterplan: that link above is an excellent resource for 32bit chroot
[05:50] <bob2> dabaR: so the computer can reach the internet?
[05:50] <_frank> masterplan: a few things are hard to get working. flash pluggin, windows codecs, I had problems with sound and media players for KDE
[05:50] <dabaR> what are you guys setting up?
[05:51] <samantacruch> hi friends
[05:51] <sproingie> i installed 32bit firefox to get flash
[05:51] <dabaR> ho friend/
[05:51] <dabaR> hi.
[05:51] <samantacruch> i need to know how can i say UBUNTU to load proftpd at Start (boot) .. thanks!
[05:51] <sproingie> not that i ever make much use of flash actually, but it's nice to have sometimes
[05:51] <_frank> sproingie: did you get kaffeine to work?
[05:51] <MIK3MAN> bob2: when I run the makeroot command as a non-root user it denies me permission to compile the .deb file I need to dpkg....
[05:51] <samantacruch> =)
[05:51] <bob2> samantacruch: just install it
[05:52] <bob2> MIK3MAN: you mean "fakeroot"?
[05:52] <sproingie> _frank: far as i know, that works in 32bit.  come to think of it, sound didn't work tho.  i don't do much media stuff on the linux box
[05:52] <samantacruch> bob2,  but dont start at boot
[05:52] <sproingie> _frank: er i mean it works in 64 bit
[05:52] <MIK3MAN> bob2: yeah sorry, fakeroot
[05:52] <bob2> MIK3MAN: also, you'd need to paste the entire error, including the command line you used to #flood
[05:52] <bob2> sproingie: yes it does
[05:52] <bob2> bah
[05:52] <bob2> samantacruch: yes it does
[05:52] <_frank> sproingie: I never could get kaffeine to work. And had a hard time getting the chroot to see stuff in /media even though /media was binded
[05:52] <smite> hey.. how can i upgrade libc6 to version 2.3.2.ds1-21?
[05:52] <samantacruch> bob2, i'm sure it dont
[05:53] <bob2> samantacruch: and I'm sure it does
[05:53] <sproingie> only media stuff i use on linux is stills from my camera
[05:53] <unf> hi
[05:53] <bob2> samantacruch: explain why you think it doesn't
[05:53] <wing`> bob2, do you know where i can get a step-by-step tutorial for making lans trough winxp and ubuntu?
[05:53] <sproingie> obviously don't need many codecs for that
[05:53] <bob2> smite: don't screw with libc, please
[05:53] <smite> libc6 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is too old for most stuff... i need to install the newer one
[05:53] <bob2> you don't need to upgrade it, whatever you may think
[05:53] <smite> bob2: why not?
[05:53] <bob2> smite: no, you don't
[05:53] <dabaR> smite, it is bad for your health.
[05:53] <Spiritual_Vagabo> hi, i just installed Ubuntu
[05:53] <bob2> smite: the software you're trying to use is not intended for use on your version of ubuntu
[05:53] <bob2> smite: find software that is
[05:53] <smite> synaptic returns: gtk2-engines-experience:
[05:54] <smite> Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[05:54] <bob2> wing`: no, sorry.  it\'s just normal network setup
[05:54] <Spiritual_Vagabo> but I am unable to get internet working
[05:54] <sproingie> _frank: never tried looking at media in the chroot actually.  only external devices i have are my mmc/sd card reader and my camera itself
[05:54] <bob2> smite: so, your sources.list is broken
[05:54] <Spiritual_Vagabo> i have a DSL Broadband connection
[05:54] <bob2> smite: for example, you pointed it at some Debian packages
[05:54] <dabaR> smite, ya, your sources.list has something it shouold not.
[05:54] <bob2> smite: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood and we'll tell you which lines to nix
[05:54] <Spiritual_Vagabo> can anyone tell me wat I shud do to get it working?
[05:55] <smite> bob2: ok, i tried to use a debian repo because compiling experience-engine failed :-/
[05:55] <_frank> Spiritual_Vagabo: do you have a username/password for internet?
[05:55] <samantacruch> bob2,  because when he finished to boot and i try to ftp on he dont work and netsta -an dont report me any 21 used, then if i do proftpd command line it work!
[05:55] <smite> alright... how do i use 2 channels at once in irssi?
[05:55] <hybrid_goth> Spiritual_Vagabo: they easiest way is to get a router
[05:55] <wing`> bob2, i need to put an static ip in my eth1 (ubuntu) interface too?
[05:55] <bob2> samantacruch: well, someone broke it, by default it runs
[05:55] <JingleBells> wing`, I downloaded it off a 3dgamers mirror and it works fine
[05:55] <sproingie> she's a programmer, but she still pulls this "that's technology, i'm a girl, that's too hard" business.  i can't figure her out.
[05:55] <bob2> wing`: yup
[05:55] <hybrid_goth> smite: /j channel then alt 1 alt 2 alt 3
[05:55] <wing`> JingleBells, :/
[05:55] <samantacruch> bob2,  where can i put the proftpd command and ubuntu load me at start?
[05:55] <JingleBells> http://3dgxfer3ra.3dgamers.com/%5E1581417761/3dgamers/games/wolfensteinet/et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[05:56] <Spiritual_Vagabo> _frank, yeah, but I have a router and its all set up on taht
[05:56] <wing`> but you got the same problem with IDSOFTWARE ftp?
[05:56] <JingleBells> it was too slow to test, you'd have been waiting 4 hrs :)
[05:56] <bob2> samantacruch: sudo update-rc.d proftpd defaults
[05:56] <Spiritual_Vagabo> hybrid_goth, I have done the easy bit, but it dont seem to be that easy
[05:56] <bob2> MIK3MAN: where are you running that command?
[05:56] <samantacruch> bob2,  thanks much
[05:56] <djp> anyone have any idea why firefox seems to lock-up at certain times? page appears to be still oading, however if you try and stop the load, press on the back arrow etc., nothing happens... if you try and quit you have to force quit in order to then restart firefox over again. any ideas?
[05:57] <JingleBells> md5 is 2d2373f29f02e18d365d7f1860eee435
[05:57] <wing`> Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: 5ccbde57e325af16acca64cc929dfa2e is different from b8b59bc515d86cc845fb52f5d2c14423
[05:57] <dabaR> djp: cause it is a program.
[05:57] <_frank> is the us archive still broken?
[05:57] <dabaR> is it?
[05:58] <JingleBells> 270965248 et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[05:58] <wing`> bob2, and what gateway i should put in eth1 setup?
[05:58] <rndrdbrian> A little problem, trying to mount my  usb memory card reader, "mount /dev/sda1 /media/xd -t vfat" gives /dev/sda1 does not exists.
[05:58] <JingleBells> thats the szie I have
[05:58] <JingleBells> size*
[05:58] <djp> dabaR: do you consider firefox to be a pretty flaky browser then?
[05:58] <smite> bob2: i pasted sources.list
[05:58] <tbasten> I have downloaded the ATI drivers for my graphics card. I ran the config and i have now got a "Error activating XKB configuration."
[05:58] <Chris_Tucker> uhm
[05:58] <dabaR> well, it crashes, epiphany more often, I use epiphany moer anyhow.
[05:58] <Chris_Tucker> how can i force apt-get to ignore dependancies?
[05:58] <wing`> LOL JingleBells
[05:58] <dabaR> djp: I mean, its a program, it crashes, thats how I think.
[05:58] <wing`> mine got 64mb
[05:59] <wing`> i think i found the error
[05:59] <wing`> :P
[05:59] <dabaR> maybe you can submit a bug or something.
[05:59] <reka> djp: something to try: type 'about:config' in the url bar, then filter for 'ipv6' and set the found setting to true.
[05:59] <Chris_Tucker> these dependancies on this specific app are wrong
[05:59] <Chris_Tucker> so i have to override, how would i do this?
[05:59] <JingleBells> the ID ftp was incredibly slow
[05:59] <JingleBells> 30k/sec
[06:00] <tbasten> Anyone know how to setup the drivers for an ATI card?
[06:00] <rndrdbrian> can anyone help please?
[06:00] <tbasten> i was first
[06:00] <tbasten> :P
[06:01] <reka> Chris_Tucker: er, forcing could lead to breakage ... but there should be an option: 'man apt-get'
[06:01] <Spiritual_Vagabo> wat? cant any one help me to get internet going on ubuntu?
[06:01] <wing`> whats better gnome or kde? :P
[06:01] <dabaR> rndrdbrian: well, it does not exist.
[06:01] <reka> !ati
[06:01] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:01] <dabaR> Spiritual_Vagabo: for what? wireless?
[06:01] <Spiritual_Vagabo> no, dsl broadband thru a router
[06:01] <dabaR> wing`: gnome.
[06:01] <dabaR> :)
[06:01] <Chris_Tucker> reka, i no longer need this, turns out its not a dependancy, but an already broken package for some reason
[06:01] <reka> tbasten: those aren't the "official" ati.com drivers though
[06:02] <rndrdbrian> dabaR, I have alsao tried sda1 - sda4, through to sdd1 to sdd4. neither exist
[06:02] <tbasten> reka, ? i downloaded them from the ati site
[06:02] <tbasten> reka, i got the ati installer
[06:02] <dabaR> sure it is connected? did it work before?
[06:02] <tbasten> so... where do i get from?
[06:02] <dabaR> Spiritual_Vagabo: ok, well, a router, that means set up your conmputer for dhcp/.
[06:02] <dabaR> and it works like a charm.
[06:02] <reka> tbasten: that wiki page talks about the xorg-fglrx drivers.
[06:02] <dabaR> rewboot power cycle, whatever you have to do,.
[06:03] <Spiritual_Vagabo> yeah dabaR
[06:03] <djp> reka: network.dns.disableIPv6, would that be the one? iti s currently set as false. should i change that to true?
[06:03] <Spiritual_Vagabo> i need to configure DHCP
[06:03] <tbasten> reka, on the ati dite?
[06:03] <tbasten> sire
[06:03] <tbasten> site*
[06:03] <dabaR> haha
[06:03] <natu> how can i execute multiple server clients in one shell???
[06:04] <reka> djp: worth a shot... worked for sluggishness in another FF user today
[06:04] <natu> i have the object files
[06:04] <dabaR> ok, later guys, Im hungry. Spiritual_Vagabo set up your computer for dhcp, power cycle the modem and router, bring down the interface, then bring it up, and it should work.
[06:04] <reka> tbasten: this site: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:04] <djp> reka: sometimes firefox will completely shut down itself!
[06:04] <natu> how can i execute multiple server clients in one shell???
[06:04] <reka> tbasten: if you want to use the ati drivers, search the ubforums, possibly even the wiki might have a page
[06:04] <natu> can anyone help me....
[06:04] <Spiritual_Vagabo> dabaR, how do i bring down the interface?
[06:04] <rndrdbrian> so how should I be mounting the memory card?
[06:04] <hybrid_goth> natu: screen
[06:04] <hybrid_goth> ?
[06:04] <reka> djp: what version, ooi?
[06:05] <dabaR> sudo ifdown eth0 for example
[06:05] <dabaR> sudo ifup eth0 bringsw it back up.
[06:05] <tbasten> reka, done all of that
[06:05] <hybrid_goth> !screen
[06:05] <ubotu> hybrid_goth: I give up, what is it?
[06:05] <hybrid_goth> what!
[06:05] <hybrid_goth> some bot!
[06:05] <tbasten> reka,  can i msg you the error i am getting?
[06:05] <dabaR> powere cycling is done first turn off both router and modem, then turn on modem, wait for solid lights, and then tyurn on the router, then ifdown, ifdown.
[06:05] <andrewf> Hi, I just installed libflash-mozplugin and I can't get firefox working with it
[06:05] <reka> tbasten: pastebin would be better
[06:05] <xoz> djp: how large is your RAM?
[06:05] <dabaR> hybrid_goth: tell him what it is.
[06:06] <wing`> dabaR, can you help me setting up a network?
[06:06] <dabaR> wing`: likely:)
[06:06] <dabaR> depends.
[06:06] <tbasten> i dont know how to do that so is it ok to msg it?
[06:06] <hybrid_goth> dabaR: how
[06:06] <dabaR> I told you to /query me a while ago
[06:06] <djp> completely frozen again reka...
[06:06] <djp> xoz: 512mb
[06:06] <dabaR> hybrid_goth: you query me too.
[06:06] <reka> djp: what version of FF?
[06:07] <nova> Hi, how do I change icon themes in ubuntu?
[06:07] <djp> reka: 1.0.2
[06:07] <tbasten> Reading package lists... Done
[06:07] <tbasten> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:07] <tbasten> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[06:07] <tbasten>   xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:07] <tbasten> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:07] <tbasten> Need to get 0B/3185kB of archives.
[06:07] <tbasten> After unpacking 10.2MB of additional disk space will be used.
[06:07] <tbasten> Preconfiguring packages ...
[06:07] <kolcvk> guys , how to install downloaded .deb binary ?
[06:07] <tbasten> (Reading database ... 97904 files and directories currently installed.)
[06:07] <tbasten> Unpacking xorg-driver-fglrx (from .../xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb) ...
[06:07] <don-o> is there a wiki page that gives more detail about the X problem in breezy?
[06:07] <xoz> djp: i would use mozilla over firefox.
[06:07] <tbasten> dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by nvidia-glx'
[06:07] <tbasten> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb (--unpack):
[06:07] <tbasten>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[06:07] <tbasten> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:07] <tbasten>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb
[06:07] <natu> hybrid_goth: if i want to use a script to startup the clients???
[06:07] <reka> tbasten: STOP
[06:07] <tbasten> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:08] <kolcvk> guys , how to install downloaded .deb binary ?
[06:08] <don-o> kolcvk: dkpg  -i dowloaded.deb
[06:08] <xoz> idiot
[06:08] <kolcvk> thanks
[06:08] <reka> tbasten: do NOT paste in the channel
[06:08] <Antinomy> anyone understand the Debootstrap Error?
[06:08] <reka> sorry, should have forewarned him
[06:08] <natu> hybrid_goth: if i want to use a script to startup the clients???] 
[06:08] <reka> tbasten: paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:08] <keikoz> a little question... about what i can see in the dmesg;  where are in this listing starting the scripts of /etc/rcS.d ?
[06:09] <keikoz> i can't determine it ...
[06:09] <bob2> keikoz: dmesg has nothing to do with those scripts
[06:09] <bob2> except in that the the kernel runs init to begi nwith
[06:10] <tbasten> reka, ok, pasted
[06:10] <keikoz> dmesg yes but he can't give information because of one of this scripts no ?
[06:10] <stjepan> heya
[06:10] <stjepan> where is ifcfg-eth0 script in ubuntu?
[06:11] <reka> tbasten: hmmm ... why is it complaining about nvidia-glx, when you have an ati card.
[06:11] <vader> bob2: when you got me to do the modprobe apm last night.... it will even tell me when the battery is fully charged now, thanx dude
[06:11] <Spiritual_Vagabo> thx dabaR
[06:11] <maddler> hello!
[06:11] <reka> tbasten: you didn't follow the nvidia instructions did you? *wince*
[06:11] <stjepan> so?
[06:11] <Spiritual_Vagabo> i wil try that and get back if needed
[06:11] <maddler> is anyone using firefox > 1.0.2 on amd64?
[06:11] <stjepan> do you know where is it?
[06:11] <stjepan> or can you find it, please?
[06:11] <hybrid_goth> !screen
[06:11] <ubotu> it has been said that screen is a terminal multiplexer http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935
[06:11] <stjepan> never midn
[06:11] <stjepan> I will try myself
[06:11] <hybrid_goth> !good bot
[06:11] <ubotu> thanks hybrid_goth :)
[06:12] <tbasten> reka, i replace my old nvidia card with ati card so my system is currently setup for nvidia
[06:12] <reka> tbasten: i see.
[06:12] <reka> tbasten: remove the nvidia stuff
[06:12] <tbasten> eder
[06:12] <tbasten> eer*
[06:12] <reka> uh, yeah....
[06:12] <tbasten> just nvidia-glx
[06:12] <maddler> and... is breezy sable enough?
[06:13] <reka> tbasten: try that one first
[06:13] <tbasten> done
[06:13] <stjepan> oh
[06:13] <stjepan> I can't find it
[06:13] <reka> now try install the xorg one
[06:13] <stjepan> can you help me?
[06:13] <reka> tbasten: /msg me if an error comes up
[06:13] <stjepan> I am finding file ifcfg-eth0
[06:13] <tbasten>  trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin/fgl_glxgears', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-0
[06:13] <tbasten> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[06:13] <tbasten> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:13] <tbasten>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb
[06:13] <tbasten> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:14] <stjepan> so?
[06:14] <reka> *sigh*
[06:14] <reka> tbasten: use /msg with one line
[06:14] <reka> tbasten: to open the window, then paste the rest
[06:15] <tbasten> reka, is that what u mean?
[06:15] <reka> djp: well, from what i've seen, a lot of people have problems with FF.  check the ubforums and the bugzilla
[06:15] <reka> tbasten: yes.
[06:16] <samantacruch> bob2,  root@linux:~ # update-rc.d proftpd defaults
[06:16] <samantacruch>  System startup links for /etc/init.d/proftpd already exist.
[06:16] <stjepan> do you know how to set MTU for my eth0?
[06:16] <samantacruch> but it dont start at boot
[06:16] <bob2> samantacruch: ls -ld /etc/rc2.d/S*proft*
[06:16] <samantacruch>  ls -ld /etc/rc2.d/S*proft*
[06:16] <samantacruch> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           17 2005-07-22 18:13 /etc/rc2.d/S20proftpd -> ../init.d/proftpd
[06:16] <samantacruch> root@linux:~ #
[06:17] <bob2> well, it's being started
[06:17] <stjepan> so?
[06:17] <bob2> maybe you screwed up the config or something
[06:17] <samantacruch> but if i restart
[06:17] <samantacruch> it dont start
[06:17] <bob2> I cannot guess what you did, sorry
[06:17] <samantacruch> i did nothing
[06:17] <samantacruch> :(
[06:17] <djp> reka: version of ff is 1.0.2
[06:17] <reka> djp: well, from what i've seen, a lot of people have problems with FF.  check the ubforums and the bugzilla
[06:18] <bahblahblahbah> hi
[06:18] <smite> so any idea how i can install the experience-engine??
[06:18] <smite> parser.c:2: warning: `yysccsid' defined but not used
[06:18] <smite> make[1] : *** [parser.lo]  Error 1
[06:19] <Seveas> smite, that is a warning, not an error
[06:19] <Seveas> the error must be earlier, paste the complete output on a pastebin
[06:19] <bahblahblahbah> how can i mount an ntfs partition?
[06:19] <jblu> I added files from a CD burned on OS X.  The permissions are screwed up, and the files all have a lock.  It says the date it was created was 31 December, 1969! Somebody?
[06:20] <dabaR> !mountwindows
[06:20] <ubotu> somebody said mountwindows was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:20] <smite> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/andrew/experience-0.9.6/src'
[06:20] <smite> make: *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[06:20] <Seveas> bahblahblahbah: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[06:20] <smite> thats all
[06:20] <dabaR> jblu: go back in time.
[06:20] <smite> make error 1.. again :-/
[06:21] <bahblahblahbah> thx all
[06:21] <Amaranth> bahblahblahbah: it'll be read only
[06:21] <Seveas> smite, do you have flex and bison installed?
[06:21] <jblu> well, can I do a touch in terminal, to correct the date with what command?
[06:21] <nova_> Hi, how do I change icon themes in ubuntu using gnome? When I drag the icon sets I've downloaded into the icon tab of the theme dialog it says invalid format
[06:22] <Seveas> jblu, touch * will update timestamps of all files
[06:22] <Seveas> see the manpage for touch for full detail :)
[06:22] <dabaR> nova, faqs at art.gnome.org
[06:22] <jblu> for all folders in a folder?
[06:22] <smite> Seveas: no
[06:22] <Seveas> nova_, then the icon theme is not correct
[06:22] <genghis> anywhere I can get the version of mozilla-firefox I had yesterday before apt broke it utterly?
[06:22] <slask3n> where are the packages stored when selecting "copy remaining packages to disk" in expert install? i have lost my sources.list and now i have to download every package even if i know it exist on the disk..
[06:22] <Seveas> smite, yy* functions are for bison and flex, install these
[06:23] <Seveas> slask3n, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:23] <djp> ok i have noticed that if i click on anything like a link to an m3u playlist (normally opens totem), pdf file (normally open xpdf), in firefox, nothing happens...
[06:23] <Seveas> slask3n: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[06:23] <genghis> djp:  you're lucky.  mine won't launch at all
[06:23] <djp> i think the laterst update of firefox has caused problems
[06:23] <djp> genghis: have u recently updated ff?
[06:23] <Seveas> djp, the security update broke a lot
[06:24] <genghis> djp: security update provides a version which segfaults on exec
[06:24] <djp> Seveas: ahh, thanks.
[06:24] <genghis> Seveas:  is there an archive of older .debs ?
[06:24] <Seveas> genghis, download the older .deb manually and run dpkg -i --force-downgrade filename.deb
[06:24] <djp> Seveas: is this being "fixed"?
[06:24] <genghis> Seveas:  i've been looking for the package but can't find it
[06:24] <Seveas> djp, yes
[06:24] <Seveas> genghis, hang on
[06:25] <djp> cheers Seveas, just grin and bare it then for a while... :(
[06:25] <genghis> dpkg I am familiar with, thankfully.  have been using debian for years before this
[06:25] <smite> Seveas: no difference.. installed them and same error
[06:25] <genghis> Seveas:  also filed it with bugzilla.
[06:25] <dabaR> why switch to ubuntu then, genghis just something new?
[06:26] <Seveas> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.4_i386.deb
[06:26] <genghis> dabaR:  it's generally a more coherent distro imho
[06:26] <Seveas> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.4_i386.deb
[06:26] <dabaR> whats coherent mean?
[06:26] <Seveas> ah wait, these are the latest
[06:26] <Seveas> take the ubuntu5.3 versions
[06:26] <genghis> dabaR:  it all works together better
[06:27] <genghis> Seveas:  5.3 isn't there
[06:27] <Daemonic> would I break everything if I changed my apt-sources to those of debians?
[06:27] <dabaR> genghis: ok.
[06:27] <dabaR> thanks
[06:27] <Seveas> genghis, hmm, i see
[06:27] <Seveas> i'll keep looking
[06:27] <genghis> i tried that already :-)
[06:28] <genghis> deleting archive packages, btw, isn't imho the most clever idea.
[06:28] <Despeeh> Daemonic I dont know, but i downloaded couple programs from Breezy repos , and my 5.04 hoary crashed badly
[06:29] <Daemonic> Despeeh, crashed how? what did you install?
[06:29] <Seveas> http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3_i386.deb
[06:29] <Seveas> http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3_i386.deb
[06:30] <Seveas> the german archive still has it :)
[06:30] <thespiritoftal> when I type  "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" as written in ubuntuguide it says GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[06:30] <thespiritoftal> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.Anyone who knows the reason?
[06:30] <slask3n> Seveas: thanks, but ive fixed the sources.list now.. but can i add /var/cache/apt/archives/ as an repository?
[06:30] <jblu> touch * worked, thanks:)
[06:30] <Seveas> slask3n, no need to, apt will pick up debs in there
[06:30] <Despeeh> I did install latest firefox , gaim and vlc
[06:30] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, you should type that in a terminal
[06:31] <genghis> Seveas:  thanks
[06:31] <jblu> I can't find VLC, I have universe enabled
[06:31] <Seveas> jblu, try apt-get update
[06:31] <weiers> Hi, struggling setting up my alsa-sound. I have now followed a number of steps (without any hitches) to compile the alsa-source. It ended with a command dpkg -i ../alsa*.deb. But still no sound. I also edited the /etc/esound/esd.conf as suggested in the ubuntu wiki. Where do I go now to get my sound to work?
[06:31] <Seveas> !info vlx
[06:31] <Seveas> !info vlc
[06:31] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[06:31] <jblu> thx
[06:31] <dj28> vlc
[06:31] <dj28> er
[06:31] <slask3n> Seveas: no it doesnt.. ive tested.. i asked you earlier today and you said i should remove the cd-rom rep and then it would check.. i installed quanta now, and i KNOW thats on the cd, and the on the disk now, but synaptic downloaded every package anyway..
[06:32] <haffe> Hello. I noticed that I have libcairo installed. Is there someway I can try libcairo out with the glitz backend?
[06:32] <genghis> slask3n:  if the downloaded version is newer, it will, yes
[06:32] <tbasten>  you formerly had an nvidia card, installed the xorg-fglrx drivers, and you get this error and no direct rendering
[06:33] <tbasten> i mean "i"
[06:33] <nova_> does it matter whether the themes I download is for metacity or gtk2?
[06:33] <slask3n> genghis: it download EVERY package NO MATTER WHAT.. :s
[06:33] <Daemonic> what scripting language would I want to write a simple script to communicate with a serial port?
[06:33] <weiers> crimsun ? I wonder if you could perhaps give me a small bit of advice about setting up my alsa-sound. You helped me last time and I've been following your instructions. There must just be something small that I am doing wrong.
[06:33] <genghis> slask3n:  if they're not newer, you can force a source by using apt-get -t
[06:33] <Daemonic> I need to send a few simple strings of text to the serial port and receive a few in response...
[06:34] <Daemonic> could I do that with a bash script?
[06:34] <tbasten> I formerly had an nvidia card, installed the xorg-fglrx drivers, and you get this error and no direct rendering. Anyone have any clue?
[06:34] <The_Vox> Daehlie: shell scripting...sh if you need portability, bash if you don't care about portability
[06:35] <rndrdbrian> does anyone know how to mount usb memory card reader in ubuntu?
[06:35] <weiers> Could anyone help me activate my soundcard?
[06:35] <The_Vox> Daemonic: shell scripting...sh if you need portability, bash if you don't care about portability
[06:35] <genghis> rndrdbrian:  put a card in it and look what you have afterwards, usually works for me
[06:36] <rndrdbrian> genghis, that fails to work.
[06:36] <genghis> what sort of memory card?
[06:37] <rndrdbrian> xd memory card, lexar multimemory card reader
[06:37] <genghis> jeez
[06:37] <slask3n> genghis: i use synaptic as the frontend, and i know it can use the disk as an repository becouse i always been doing it, just this time i fucked up and now it asks for the cd-rom.. Seveas told me to remove the cd-rom from the sources.list and i did, so now it downloads the package from internet since i dont have the cd-rom rep installed.. thats ok, but a bit irritating since every package already is on the harddrive.. but apt doesnt know
[06:37] <The_Vox> rndrdbrian: what does your /var/log/messages say when you plug in a card into the reader?
[06:37] <samantacruch> bob2,  how can i install proftpd.. if i do that with tarball i have this error, but with atp-get i am not able to find it.. so there is no some ubuntu package?
[06:37] <genghis> slask3n:  try moving all the packages you know you have into /var/cache/apt/archive
[06:37] <Seveas> slask3n, it is odd that packages in /var/cache/apt/archives aren't picked up
[06:38] <rndrdbrian> The_Vox, it says that it has found the 256mb card at sda
[06:38] <Seveas> slask3n, unless the packages online are newer
[06:38] <The_Vox> rndrdbrian: mount sda1 somewhere and there you go
[06:39] <rndrdbrian> mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[06:39] <The_Vox> samantacruch: you need either universe or multiverse...I'm seeing proftpd packages here
[06:39] <rndrdbrian> neither does sda2,3, or 4 or sdb or sdc
[06:40] <elmagozizou> Hi does Any one has configured nvidia card and get all the perform?
[06:40] <slask3n> Seveas, genghis: i think so too.. but the only thing ive done this time that i didnt before is to accidently press the "configure apt"-somtehing during expert install, and thats after the packages has been copied so thats why it doesnt work..
[06:40] <weiers> I get the impression I am being ignored. Am I being paranoid? Or am I just asking the wrong question? Or is there nobody who knows the answer?
[06:40] <dabaR> samantacruch: there is a package.
[06:40] <dabaR> !info proftpd
[06:40] <ubotu> proftpd: (Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-8 (hoary), Packaged size: 346 kB, Installed size: 816 kB
[06:40] <dabaR> add universe.
[06:40] <slask3n> Seveas, genghis: but there should be a way to fix it shouldnt it?
[06:41] <The_Vox> elmagozizou: depends on what you mean by "all the performance"...my nvidia card works pretty well for gameing...but it *is* slower than on windows for some games.
[06:41] <haffe> rndrdbrian: Have you verified that the memory card is detected by the kernel?
[06:41] <samantacruch> dabaR,  how can i add universe?
[06:41] <dabaR> !repositories
[06:41] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:41] <rndrdbrian> haffe, how do I do that?
[06:42] <dabaR> samantacruch: there^
[06:42] <haffe> rndrdbrian: Start a terminal and type dmesg | grep exar
[06:42] <samantacruch> oh roger
[06:42] <weiers> What do I do to activate my soundcard?
[06:42] <rndrdbrian> haffe, it seems to
[06:42] <elmagozizou> The_Vox, yeah..i mean, i install the module and anabled it...an ib install all the nvidia packages that i need...but for example i cant play tuxracer well and my screensavers doesnt see very well neither
[06:43] <haffe> weiers: It should have been detected automaticly. Are you sure that it isn't just muted?
[06:43] <dabaR> weiers: do you have two?
[06:43] <congelando> algum brasileiro ae
[06:43] <elmagozizou> The_Vox, the only thing that works fine is 3ddesktop
[06:43] <haffe> rndrdbrian: Ok. Have you looked under /media where HAL should have made a device for you?
[06:43] <zeasier> maybe lots of people are asking this, maybe not. is anyone having firefox crash when you close a tab?
[06:43] <The_Vox> elmagozizou: did you modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to use the nvidia drivers instead of the nv drivers?
[06:43] <congelando> i using my adsl modem with router.. how i can configure ubuntu to conect with the internet
[06:44] <Seveas> zeasier, the latest ubuntu AND official versions break a lot
[06:44] <elmagozizou> The_Vox, I allready check that but im goin to put that in private to you...so you can check it...
[06:44] <Seveas> zeasier, if you run 1.0.6 or the latest ubuntu security update, you should downgrade.
[06:44] <zeasier> Seveas - yeah it seems to be my latest version too
[06:44] <rndrdbrian> haffe /media/usb0 is empty, as is /media/usb
[06:44] <weiers> haffe / dabaR I don't think I have two. I had problems once before when I installed Ubuntu. It is built in on An Intel Centrino motherboard. At that Stage Crimsun sent me a number of commands trhough a bot (Ubouto) to download, compile and install alsa
[06:44] <haffe> Hmm.
[06:44] <The_Vox> zeasier: the FF updates are having trouble, both from ubuntu and from mozilla foundation...you can only suck it up and wait for yet another update
[06:44] <weiers> haffe /dabaR I did that again this time, but still no sound
[06:45] <zeasier> Seveas - so how can i downgrade with apt?
[06:45] <The_Vox> elmagozizou: just make sure that it says "nvidia" and not "nv" under the Devices section
[06:45] <Amaranth> they released firefox 1.0.6 to fix an abi/api break in 1.0.5 but 1.0.6 broke somewhere else
[06:45] <haffe> rndrdbrian: What device is the memory card detected as?
[06:45] <Amaranth> seemingly only on linux
[06:45] <Seveas> zeasier, manually download the debs and run dpkg -i
[06:45] <Seveas> http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3_i386.deb
[06:45] <rndrdbrian> haffe, how do you mean?
[06:45] <Seveas> http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3_i386.deb
[06:45] <Amaranth> Seveas: nice try
[06:45] <dabaR> congelando: just a sec
[06:45] <zeasier> Seveas - cool thanks
[06:45] <phixion> anyone want to help a linux newbie setup rtorrent? :/
[06:45] <rndrdbrian> dmesg says /dev/sda
[06:45] <elmagozizou> The_Vox, what section you want to see?
[06:46] <Despeeh> is here someone who can help me with mounting ntfs stuff fromn windows
[06:46] <biscuit_> Whenever i try to configure ALSA and test it, it says no constucted pipeline or somthing like that
[06:46] <ztx_> how do I boot the ubuntu livecd without X?
[06:46] <supernix> Does anyone know anything about the evolution email client ?
[06:46] <weiers> biscuit_ that is the problem that I have now.
[06:46] <The_Vox> elmagozizou: Section "Device"
[06:46] <biscuit_> weirs: Anyone here know whats wrong with it
[06:47] <weiers> biscuit_ the previous time I got it fixed. I am sure I am just leaving somethign out.
[06:47] <biscuit_> weiers*
[06:47] <dabaR> congelando: you there?
[06:47] <Seveas> Amaranth, please leave the breezy X part in it
[06:47] <biscuit_> weiers: It says that it's installed in synatpic, but it still won't work
[06:47] <Amaranth> Seveas: you want breezy X or firefox? we don't have room for both
[06:47] <Seveas> ah crap
[06:47] <dabaR> @me
[06:47] <Seveas> i see it now :)
[06:47] <dabaR> :p
[06:48] <biscuit_> Anyone have or remember dialup?
[06:48] <genghis> Amaranth:  i'm checking the bugzilla suggestion about removing all extensions before upgrade.  if it works that's more useful info
[06:48] <Chris_Tucker> im on dialup right now
[06:48] <The_Vox> elmagozizou: it seems to be fine...should be working allright.
[06:48] <biscuit_> r anyone know about Linuxant
[06:48] <weiers> biscuit_ I have the same situation.  Did you do a sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) alsa-source thing?
[06:48] <Chris_Tucker> biscuit_,  your getting to the conexant driver arent you?
[06:48] <biscuit_> weiers_ No, it just came like installed with it
[06:48] <rndrdbrian> haffe, I've put the memory card back into the camera, seems there could be a problem with it....
[06:48] <biscuit_> Chris_Tucker: Yea
[06:48] <rndrdbrian> thanks for the help
[06:49] <Chris_Tucker> biscuit_ , two words: have fun.
[06:49] <supernix> Does anyone know anything about the evolution email client ?
[06:49] <biscuit_> Chris Tucker: What modem do you have?
[06:49] <Chris_Tucker> i had to use an older 33.6k isa modem
[06:49] <jedediah> supernix, Yeah.
[06:49] <elmagozizou> The_Vox, yeah but it doesnt...I dont know what else to do...
[06:49] <anacron> i tried to update my videocard bios, but in the end it says some error, if i boot my computer now, will it work, or do i have to flash my backup-bios now, before i boot?
[06:49] <biscuit_> Oh
[06:49] <Chris_Tucker> i have a new aopen 56px but it only works in windows
[06:49] <biscuit_> Linuxant ain't no fun
[06:49] <The_Vox> elmagozizou: neither do I...I've never had problems with my nvidia card
[06:49] <supernix> jedediah: is it defunct ?
[06:49] <Chris_Tucker> the linux driver from linuxant... sucks. you MAY get it to work
[06:49] <biscuit_> Im trying to figure out how to manually edit the driver
[06:50] <biscuit_> I get it to work
[06:50] <Chris_Tucker> but unless you pay for it your limited
[06:50] <Chris_Tucker> ag
[06:50] <biscuit_> But it won't take my key
[06:50] <biscuit_> It does
[06:50] <Chris_Tucker> ah
[06:50] <elmagozizou> The_Vox, bad luck for me...
[06:50] <biscuit_> But still says its free
[06:50] <biscuit_> *cough keygen *cough
[06:50] <jedediah> supernix, defunct? I don't think so. . . I use it, and I haven't heard anything about it being discontinued.
[06:50] <biscuit_> :-P
[06:50] <jedediah> supernix, I could be wrong though, let me know if you've heard otherwise
[06:50] <The_Vox> anacron: if you get an error when flashing a bios, you better make sure you flash it again without errors before rebooting...if you want to be able to use that piece of hardware, that is.
[06:50] <haffe> usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[06:50] <haffe>   Vendor: Konica    Model: KD-310Z           Rev: 1.00
[06:50] <haffe>   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 00
[06:50] <supernix> I just could not find a site for it I Looked on Novell but no listing for it
[06:50] <haffe> rndrdbrian: As an example. This is the line for my digital camra
[06:51] <jedediah> supernix, http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/
[06:51] <Chris_Tucker> im trying to wget stuff to make my own lan repository, how do i know the address to a .deb?
[06:51] <biscuit_> I stil don't think what Linuxant is doing is legal.. I mean isn't all linux software under open source
[06:51] <The_Vox> biscuit_: no
[06:51] <Chris_Tucker> i mean how do i know the address to a .deb on the official servers?
[06:52] <ztx_> how do I boot the ubuntu livecd without X?
[06:52] <biscuit_> Yea
[06:52] <anacron> The_Vox: do you have any expirience flashing videocard's, since i have only flashed bios, and it actually took a while to write it, so im not even sure if it did write something in the videocard bios, or did it stop before the writing scene
[06:52] <dabaR> later. good luck:)
[06:52] <The_Vox> anacron: none at all, never tried flashing a vidcard.
[06:52] <biscuit_> Chris_tucker: Have you ever had like a conexant modem
[06:53] <elmagozizou> How do I Zip a folder?
[06:53] <supernix> jedediah: are you using Gnome or KDE ?
[06:53] <hanaGone> zip
[06:54] <hanaGone> file-roller
[06:54] <Chris_Tucker> biscuit_ only working in windows
[06:54] <Chris_Tucker> never got the linuxant to work
[06:54] <supernix> ty also for the link jedediah I don't know why I did not see that before
[06:54] <biscuit_> Chris_Tucker: What modem do you have
[06:54] <biscuit_> It works fine for me
[06:55] <The_Vox> mmm...dpkg and dselect updates?
[06:56] <Chris_Tucker> Aopen FM56px
[06:56] <tbasten> how do i enable Direct rendering for an ATI card?
[06:56] <biscuit_> Which package did you try to install?
[06:56] <biscuit_> HSF, HCF?
[06:56] <yonil> is there a way to make the synaptic package updates tool ignore some packages? ( there are some packages which i dont want to update)
[06:56] <ep> whats the CLI method to see if a package is already installed, for example w32codecs
[06:57] <Amaranth> yonil: man apt_preferences
[06:57] <Chris_Tucker> its soft controlled
[06:57] <jedediah> supernix, I have a few different linux desktops. RIght now I'm in Gnome, but I run KDE and enlightenment too when I feel in the mood.
[06:57] <thespiritoftal> I type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in the terminal and get the error message Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.Anyone can tell me why?
[06:57] <biscuit_> So
[06:57] <biscuit_> HSF?
[06:57] <Chris_Tucker> yes
[06:57] <biscuit_> What did it do when you tried to install it?
[06:57] <Chris_Tucker> nothing
[06:57] <Chris_Tucker> os wouldnt use it
[06:57] <biscuit_> Did you get the debian pack
[06:58] <thespiritoftal> noone knows? :/
[06:58] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - do you have the 2 URL's about making repositories?
[06:58] <Chris_Tucker> i never had debain at the time
[06:58] <biscuit_> And the right one for the right os for the right kernel?
[06:58] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK yes
[06:58] <biscuit_> What do you have now
[06:58] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - good.   me too - just foudn them
[06:58] <CarlFK> ;)
[06:58] <Chris_Tucker> but CarlFK i dont know how to find out the url im supposed to use with wget
[06:58] <BockBilbo> is there any known problem with the last firefox security upgrade in hoary?
[06:58] <DekaPink> Hello, my lovelies~
[06:58] <BockBilbo> seens that doesnt download the stuff
[06:59] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - I am working on that ;)
[06:59] <Chris_Tucker> biscuit_ debain based ubuntu :) but i use a smoothwall
[06:59] <BockBilbo> i have to do it manually
[07:00] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - are you on the ubuntu mail list?
[07:00] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
[07:00] <biscuit_> Chris_Tucker Why don't you try do get it now
[07:00] <Chris_Tucker> CarlFK not yet but i will be in a sec
[07:00] <Chris_Tucker> biscuit_ because i use a smoothwall
[07:00] <ep> If I do apt-cache search w32codecs, nothing is listed.  However, I may of installed this by adding an extra repository (backport) and then later removing it.  How can I determine if its installed?
[07:00] <Chris_Tucker> i rout my dialup
[07:00] <biscuit_> Smoothwall?
[07:00] <Chris_Tucker> yes
[07:00] <Chris_Tucker> its a standalone computer
[07:00] <biscuit_> What do you mean?
[07:00] <biscuit_> Like do you connect directly with a modem
[07:00] <biscuit_> Or what
[07:00] <Chris_Tucker> that runs a distro of linux called smoothwall, its a router/firewall that can rout even dialup
[07:00] <Chris_Tucker> smoothwall.org
[07:00] <CarlFK> Chris_Tucker - either sign up now or give me your email so I can cc you the post
[07:00] <Chris_Tucker> no gui
[07:00] <don-o> ep: dpkg -l will tell you what is installed
[07:00] <Chris_Tucker> its just meant to sit there, web interface
[07:00] <tbasten> um, i am trying to enable direct rendering. I have commanted load "GLcore and load "dri" but its still not turning on
[07:01] <ep> cool, i can pipe that to grep, thanks!
[07:01] <biscuit_> Umm kinda a dumb question but whats a nvram.bin file?
[07:02] <ray_> biscuit_, aint too stupid cuz i have no idea
[07:02] <biscuit_> I see.. so does anyone know what it is?
[07:02] <jblu> can someone recommend a audio file converter, for AU or .snd to .wav?
[07:02] <ray_> biscuit_, did you try google
[07:02] <arpan> hi, i just installed ubuntu
[07:02] <moogman> Hey, I'm trying to install the cm (computer modern) font package. Does anyone know where I can find it?
[07:02] <lukus001> can somone tell me how i print by command... ive set up a printer but most of my aps dont see nore can they print via defult post script
[07:03] <ray_> woo hooo arpan!
[07:03] <muelli> hi folks. I'm just trying to get Stepmania working on my Ubuntu box, but as I start the game I get: "liblua.so not found..." But i definitly have lua installed :-(
[07:03] <biscuit_> I will.. but a restricted dialup connection is kinda slow :-P
[07:03] <jedediah> supernix, What desktop ar eyou running?
[07:03] <Sonderblade> is there an ubuntu package for gtk 2.7?
[07:03] <Burgundavia> rg
[07:03] <arpan> i have a dsl router and everytime I boot into ubuntu, to connect to the net, i need to do: ifdown then ifup and then i am connected
[07:03] <lukus001> can somone tell me how i print by command on programs such as cpdf
[07:04] <lukus001> xpdf*
[07:04] <arpan> wat do i do so that I dont need to do this everytime
[07:04] <Cooner750> hello
[07:04] <tbasten> is there a channel where i can discuss my video (ATI) card issues?
[07:04] <biscuit_> I have an ATI card, whats up with it?
[07:04] <ray_> tbasten, whats the problem
[07:04] <drcode> hi all
[07:04] <drcode> I didnt secess with realplayer in firefox
[07:04] <tbasten> i am trying to enable direct rendering
[07:05] <drcode> its work with totem
[07:05] <supernix> jedediah: I am running KDE
[07:05] <supernix> that actually is my primary desktop I do have Gnome installed though
[07:05] <drcode> but then the wmv movies of media player dosnt work
[07:05] <drcode> mplayer plugin support real?
[07:05] <ray_> tbasten, do you have the fglrx driver
[07:05] <tbasten> yeah, installed it about 1 hours ago :)
[07:06] <ray_> tbasten, did u modify x settings
[07:06] <tbasten> Eer, i have been editing my xorg.conf
[07:06] <The_Vox> drcode: yes, mplayer supports real format by using some codecs
[07:06] <Cooner750> is it ok to format the partition with my broken Ubuntu install on; and have GRUB still work so I can boot windows?
[07:06] <tbasten> u wanna see if. its in paste.ubuntu.org
[07:06] <tbasten> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/717
[07:07] <biscuit_> Ummm
[07:07] <ray_> ok
[07:07] <muelli> anyone got an idea, why I get "liblua.so not found" when I start stepmania?
[07:07] <biscuit_> Cooner750.. i had a bad expierence with that
[07:07] <drcode> what codec?
[07:07] <Cooner750> oops. Well I just formatted the partition
[07:07] <biscuit_> I formated that partition
[07:07] <drcode> I Install realplayer mplayer-plugin , mozpluger or somthig ?
[07:07] <biscuit_> And grub kept coming up with an error 15
[07:07] <biscuit_> Just popin the ubuntu isk
[07:07] <biscuit_> You should be fine
[07:07] <biscuit_> If you install that again
[07:07] <biscuit_> Or
[07:07] <Cooner750> Is there anyway to get GRUB off of the MBR? I'm installing another distro just temporary to see if it's a computer problem that's giving me the error
[07:07] <biscuit_> Pop in that disk
[07:08] <biscuit_> And ski[p to the grub bootloader section
[07:08] <Cooner750> k. I'll have to make a install cd
[07:08] <ray_> tbasten, yous looks alot diferent than mine
[07:09] <The_Vox> drcode: mplayer-plugin if you want your browser to do inline videos...and you need to install the mplayer codecs too....go to mplayerhq.hu and download the tarball, untar it and stick the results in /usr/lib/win32
[07:09] <biscuit_> Does anyone know what an nvram.bin file is
[07:09] <biscuit_> Im tryign to install somthing but it says it can't read to that file
[07:09] <drcode> thanx man
[07:10] <lukus001> can somone please tell me how i can use the print by command that you get on most applications
[07:11] <muelli> Is there anybody with experiences installing stepmania on a ubuntu box?
[07:11] <djp> Seveas: can you just confirm that i have this right? if i try and open a file, say an .ogg file in the current firefox release, nothing happens due to the nature of the current problems. my only solution would be to right click and download relevant file type for now? reason i ask, is that chasing up the forums doesn't mention my problem, although i gather it is related...
[07:12] <Seveas> djp, confirmed
[07:12] <drummer> Are there any folks knowledgeable on Evolution Email on line?
[07:12] <drcode> the_vox: this essential codecs package
[07:13] <drcode> bcz it come with dlls ?
[07:13] <Cooner750> Would the partition being in EXT2 cause any issues with UBuntu
[07:13] <Cooner750> ?
[07:13] <djp> Seveas: thanks
[07:14] <biscuit_> Anyonee have linuxant
[07:16] <wing`> bob2, are you there?
[07:16] <muelli> Hmm.. Am I the only one having problem with Stepmania or liblua?
[07:17] <ray_> what is Stepmania?
[07:17] <wing`> anyone there can help me with dhcp3-server?
[07:17] <The_Vox> drcode: I use the "all" codecs package...I *think* the realplayer codecs are part of the essential package, but am not sure
[07:17] <muelli> Ray: Stepmania is a "Dancing Simulation" aka DDR
[07:17] <The_Vox> wing`: what's the problem?
[07:17] <ray_> ok
[07:18] <muelli> And it wants liblua. Although I installed lua, it still complains :-(
[07:19] <wing`> The_Vox, my ubuntu<>xp lan is working with dhcp3, but windows cant get the DNS
[07:19] <wing`> my modem is a router
[07:19] <ray_> muelli, in terminal when you type loacte liblua does it showup?
[07:19] <wing`> so i already tried 192.168.254.254 (modem ip) as DNS
[07:19] <turkuaz> Topic seems to have changed, is X still boken in breezy?
[07:19] <wing`> and already tried lots of other dns address
[07:19] <neighborlee> panel applet notifier wants me to dist-upgrade instead of normal route, that plus it says I need like 240MB of updates...is this dist-upgrade ( breezy here ) and large amoung of updates likely to break my breezy system meaning should I just reinstall ? ;))
[07:19] <muelli> ray_: yeah. I got some liblualib.so files, cos I install nearly all versions ever existed :D
[07:19] <thespiritoftal> can someone pls help me?I type the commands I see in ubuntuguide and everytime there is a problem
[07:20] <Seveas> muelli, install liblua40 or liblua50
[07:20] <mecca> hey guys -- i just installed ubuntu for the first time and the only resolution i have available is 640x480... i cant find an XF86Config in /etc/X11
[07:20] <muelli> Seveas, already done
[07:20] <apokryphos> thespiritoftal: not a good idea to use it.
[07:20] <neighborlee> thespiritoftal, we need more iknfo
[07:20] <mecca> does ubuntu use x.org?
[07:20] <neighborlee> info
[07:20] <apokryphos> !resolution
[07:20] <ubotu> from memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:20] <neighborlee> mecca, yes
[07:20] <thespiritoftal> for example when I type sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 it says E: Some packages could not be authenticated
[07:20] <mecca> ah then im screwwed :P
[07:20] <mecca> ok ill read that thanks
[07:20] <muelli> I also linked one of the liblualib.so's to stepmaina dir... But didn't help
[07:20] <Seveas> muelli, then sudo ln -s /usr/lib/liblua50.so /usr/lib/liblua.so
[07:20] <apokryphos> thespiritoftal: you need backports respository for that
[07:21] <thespiritoftal> what do I have to do to get backports respository?
[07:21] <apokryphos> thespiritoftal: you also need gpg keyes to not get that error
[07:21] <apokryphos> !kudos
[07:21] <ubotu> hmm... kudos is at Multi-page: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf.html Single-page (large): http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ by Chua Wen Kiat
[07:21] <muelli> Seveas, done that too, but doesn't help
[07:21] <thespiritoftal> I already changed the text file
[07:21] <apokryphos> thespiritoftal: check that guide there. It'll walk you through it
[07:21] <turkuaz> thespiritoftal, dont forget to apt-get update then apt-get upgrade
[07:21] <Seveas> thespiritoftal: To find out the location of backports, go to backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[07:21] <thespiritoftal> can you help me how?
[07:21] <muelli> ./stepmania: error while loading shared libraries: liblua.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:21] <Seveas> muelli, sudo ldconfi
[07:21] <Seveas> muelli, sudo ldconfig
[07:21] <apokryphos> thespiritoftal: yes, add the repositories as suggested in that guide, and then execute the gpg commands to get the keys set up etc.
[07:22] <aasics> what does Ubuntu use for the automatic detection of USB jumpdrives, etc
[07:22] <muelli> sevw
[07:22] <muelli> args
[07:22] <tbasten> Anyknow know how to enable direct rendering (ATI card)
[07:22] <thespiritoftal> what do you mean with gpg commands?
[07:22] <phixion> configure: error: Could not find openssl's crypto library - anyone know where I can get the files I need to stop this happening?
[07:22] <muelli> Seveas, still no luck :-(
[07:22] <apokryphos> thespiritoftal: you'll see in the guide
[07:22] <Seveas> aasics, hotplug + pmount
[07:22] <Cooner750> i'm downloading a distro called "Berry Linux" to see if it causes errors to. If it does; it's a computer problem
[07:23] <aasics> Seveas: thank you
[07:23] <wing`> The_Vox, can you help me?
[07:23] <Seveas> muelli, then I give up, I never used lua or that program myself...
[07:23] <theplateau> is there a ls option to view permissions in octal?
[07:24] <muelli> I don't even know, what lua is about :D But I still wonder why it just does not want to check, that this damn file is there! Thanks anyway :-)
[07:25] <hyphenated> theplateau: whafor? can you use stat instead?
[07:26] <phixion> configure: error: Could not find openssl's crypto library - i already installed openssl, what do i need to do to fix this? im trying to install rtorrent
[07:26] <arpan> hi, i installed enlightenment on ubuntu using synaptic, but when I logged out, it dint appear in the sessions list, and hence I am unable to log into it. what do i do?
[07:27] <thespiritoftal> now I am in the site that you told me Seveas there are some urls of ubuntu backports... what do i have to do with them?
[07:27] <Seveas> arpan, you need to create a .desktop file for it
[07:27] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, add them to /etc/apt/aources.list
[07:27] <moo> is linux POSIX compliant?
[07:27] <arpan> hoow and where do i create it Seveas ?
[07:27] <Seveas> moo, yes
[07:27] <hyphenated> phixion: libssl-dev ?
[07:28] <Seveas> arpan, it should be in /usr/share/xsessionstake gnome.desktop as example and editi it to start enlightenment
[07:28] <Seveas> but leave the gnome.desktop there!
[07:28] <arpan> thx
[07:29] <phixion> ill try hyphenated, thankyou
[07:29] <DekaPink> How do I remove something I installed from source? :3
[07:29] <roastpork> Sorry if you'd heard this one before but are the mirrors having some issues, specifically with universe?
[07:30] <arpan> Seveas, isnt there a simpler way of doing it
[07:30] <arpan> ?
[07:30] <Seveas> DekaPink, you should install from source with checkinstall, otherwise you can't uninstall....
[07:30] <^DodGeR^> howdy every1
[07:30] <ep> realplayer on windows used to be kind of invasive, how is it on linux?
[07:30] <DekaPink> Seveas: Okay... I'll keep that in mind from not on... :D
[07:30] <drummer> Where can I find the current list of sites etc for sources.list?
[07:30] <phixion> hyphenated, sorted, thanks!
[07:30] <Seveas> arpan, find someone who already did this (google for enlightenment.desktop might help) and use that :)(
[07:31] <Seveas> drummer: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[07:31] <turkuaz> can totem play wmv's?
[07:31] <anacron> does anyone have an hercules 9800 xt graphics card?, if someone does could you send me your bios file, or maybe somebody could show me where to get one?
[07:31] <arpan> k
[07:31] <wing`> can anyone help me fixing up my dns
[07:31] <Seveas> turkuaz, if you install totem-xine and the codecs from mplayerhq.hu: yes
[07:32] <wing`> please
[07:32] <don-o> [,gl 2
[07:32] <drummer> Seveas:  Thanks
[07:32] <apokryphos> Seveas: why not backports in there as well?
[07:32] <Seveas> apokryphos, backports on by default is still icky
[07:32] <thespiritoftal> I added them and now it says E: Malformed line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist) how should i exactly add them? I typed it under Backports adding a "deb" in front of the url
[07:32] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, paste your sources.list on the pastebin please
[07:33] <turkuaz> Seveas, i guess thats a manual install and not from a repository?
[07:33] <Seveas> Teal`C, you shouldn't watch so much SG1 :)
[07:33] <thespiritoftal> how to paste on the pastebin?
[07:33] <apokryphos> thespiritoftal: you didn't follow the exact instructions; you'd have to add more
[07:33] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, go to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:33] <ep> mplayer seems to play everything I throw at it, xine is also ok.  Its the only two I use.   I'd like to  uninstall everything else but I'm not sure this is easily doable.
[07:33] <thespiritoftal> ok
[07:34] <Seveas> ep, the only other installed by default is rhythmbox
[07:34] <Seveas> turkuaz, totem-xine can be installed from the repositories
[07:34] <thespiritoftal> I pasted it
[07:34] <thespiritoftal> can you have a look?
[07:34] <apokryphos> thespiritoftal: link?
[07:34] <dverzolla>  I'm burning a CD with Ubuntu-Hoary, but I need to change de default xorg.conf file that come with installation. Anyone knows how I can do this?
[07:34] <Seveas> the codes can be installed from the backports repositories, but manually installing from the mplayer site is prefered
[07:35] <ep> Seveas, I don't understand what your saying.  I don't have rhythmbox (that I know of)  Do I want it?
[07:35] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, looking...
[07:35] <thespiritoftal> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/719
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> dverzolla,  You mean you are remastering a live cd?
[07:35] <thespiritoftal> okie
[07:35] <dverzolla> Dr_Willis, No, a install CD...
[07:35] <Seveas> ep, you said you wanted to remove every media player you don't want, I mentioned one that i though was installed by default so you know whatr to remove :)
[07:35] <apokryphos> thespiritoftal: delete lines 37-39, and add...
[07:35] <apokryphos> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[07:35] <apokryphos> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[07:36] <ray_> dverzolla, edit xconf
[07:36] <ep> ah ok
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> dverzolla,   there is the x configuration script/tools - or ya can manually edit the x.org file (back it up first)
[07:36] <dverzolla> Dr_Willis, I know that xorg.conf are auto generated. But I need put 2 linux in xorg.conf
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> 2 linux?
[07:36] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, the first 3 lines under backports are wrong, remove those and leave only the last 2
[07:36] <dverzolla> Dr_Willis, 2 Lines
[07:36] <ray_> ok what cd burning app should i get?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> its a text file :P fire up your text editor.
[07:36] <Seveas> thespiritoftal, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/720
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> what does this have to do with burning a cd at all however? :P
[07:37] <Seveas> ray_, gnomebaker
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> ray_,  i like k3b for general ussage. but depends on what you are making.
[07:37] <dverzolla> Dr_Willis, You know what are the script/tools?
[07:37] <dverzolla> where!
[07:37] <ep> Kb3 is awsome IMO, puts NERO to shame, if you are familar with NERO
[07:37] <ray_> yeah i like k3b a little better because you can burn vcd
[07:37] <ray_> but i wanted something gnome
[07:38] <thespiritoftal> so is it ok this way?
[07:38] <Teal`C> Seveas, Jaffa, KREE!!!
[07:38] <Teal`C> :P
[07:38] <ray_> ive never had good luck with gnomebaker
[07:38] <ray_> its slower
[07:38] <dverzolla> Dr_Willis, I mounted (mount -t loop initrd) and find in the directory for some script. But I don't find anything.
[07:39] <apokryphos> thespiritoftal: if you follow the instructions, then yes. Just sudo apt-get update now
[07:39] <wing`> ANyone there can help me with DNS ?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> dverzolla,  Hmm the initrd dosent have anything to do with X really
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> the x.org config is in /etc/somthing.
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> unless i have REALLY missed somthing  here. :P
[07:40] <dverzolla> Dr_Willis, I get the packets that are in pools directory. xorg-common, xorg-utils, etc ...
[07:41] <dverzolla> Dr_Willis, dpkg-deb -x in all, but I find anything too
[07:41] <azambuja> hello
[07:41] <dverzolla> Dr_Willis, the X system are configured by some script?
[07:41] <azambuja> im new to ubuntu
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> what 2 lines are you trying so hard to add to the X config?
[07:41] <ray_> hello
[07:41] <azambuja> and im loving it btw
[07:41] <Seveas> wing`, what's the problem?
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> dverzolla,  linux is all about scriots and text file configs :P
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> scripts.
[07:41] <Seveas> azambuja, welcome aboard!
[07:41] <azambuja> is there a good bootsplash and framebuffer tutorial or how-to?
[07:41] <hacked`> guys, whats wlanng  ?
[07:41] <dverzolla> Dr_Willis, But where I can find this one ? :P
[07:41] <thomas___> hoary. asrock k7vt6. lsmod sais snd_via82xx is loaded. alsamixer said everything's on. installed codecs from http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs. still no sound. wtf?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> dverzolla,  its in /etc/X11/x.org or similer.
[07:42] <hacked`> guys, where can i download the wlanng driver ?
[07:42] <Seveas> azambuja, yes: don't use it, the devs will implement it for breezy/breezy+1
[07:42] <dverzolla> Dr_Willis, junto 2 lines I need put in the file!
[07:42] <wing`> Seveas, my network is configured to work using dhcp3, everything is fine only dns in the client isnt working
[07:42] <apokryphos> azambuja: there is on the wiki somewhere
[07:42] <dushtabuddhi> hello, any new firefox builds available ?
[07:42] <qt2> dverzolla,  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:42] <dverzolla> Dr_Willis, just 2 lines
[07:42] <wing`> i cant ping www.google.com for example, just the googles IP
[07:42] <ray_> dushtabuddhi, in backports
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> dverzolla,  then find the file and fire up an editor and have a blast. :P
[07:42] <Seveas> wing`, cat /etc/resolv.conf are the addresses it gives correct?
[07:42] <azambuja> Seveas: next version?
[07:42] <Seveas> azambuja, yes
[07:42] <dverzolla> qt2, I know! I'm doing my own Ubuntu!
[07:42] <ray_> wing`, dns problem
[07:42] <azambuja> Seveas: grub image then i can change?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> dverzolla,  what/where did you discovre these 2 magical lines that are needed. :P
[07:42] <Seveas> azambuja, that's easy
[07:43] <wing`> Seveas, in the server?
[07:43] <^DodGeR^> set manual dns servers manually wing` ? in /etc/resolv.con
[07:43] <wing`> because the client is a windowxp machine
[07:43] <azambuja> Seveas: when is it coming out? the next version?
[07:43] <qt2> dverzolla, ...if you know, then why did you ask?
[07:43] <Seveas> azambuja, there is a tutorial on the forums (ubuntuforums.org)
[07:43] <Seveas> azambuja, october (every april and october there's a new version)
[07:43] <azambuja> Seveas: ok, im gonna search it
[07:43] <dverzolla> qt2, sorry
[07:43] <Seveas> wing`, no, on the pc that gives errors
[07:43] <dverzolla> qt2,
[07:43] <dverzolla> Dr_Willis,
[07:43] <dverzolla> I'm doing my own Ubuntu Linux
[07:43] <nldk> hello
[07:43] <wing`> Seveas,  the pc that gives errors is windowsxp
[07:44] <azambuja> Seveas: but i dont have to reinstall the system then, have I? what i like about ubuntu is that i can update without having to reinstall
[07:44] <dverzolla> And I need change this file for a install CD
[07:44] <azambuja> Seveas: i used gentoo ;-)
[07:44] <ed1t> dverzolla, wat u mean u doing ur own ubuntu box?
[07:44] <Seveas> wing`, ah :)
[07:44] <thomas___> sound not workingm HELP! hoary. asrock k7vt6. lsmod sais snd_via82xx is loaded. alsamixer sais everything's on. installed codecs from http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs. still no sound..
[07:44] <nldk> problem with converting Danish characters between Windows and Gnome
[07:44] <nldk> Can anyone help?
[07:44] <dverzolla> ed1t, I'm changing some languages packets, some configurations
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> the install cd runs the dpkg- config scripts as the packages are installed.
[07:44] <Seveas> wing`, then open the network config thing in XP and look for fns server addresses
[07:44] <ed1t> k
[07:44] <Seveas> and if they are wrong, set them to the correct ones
[07:44] <xoz> dverzolla: then you should be familiar with the data in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ which contains scripts for configuration
[07:44] <wing`> Seveas, its all set to auto (dhcp)
[07:44] <Razor-X> dverzolla: my box would pain itself to call it Ubuntu still ;)
[07:45] <Seveas> wing`, so the dhcp server is faulty
[07:45] <dverzolla> xoz, Yes!
[07:45] <Razor-X> but, it's heavily tailored to _my_ tastes, I have no intention of doing anything with my modifications other than some smooth computing
[07:45] <Seveas> either teach the dhcp server to use the correct values or hard-code them in the clients :)
[07:45] <azambuja> Seveas: i wont have to reinstall the system right? apt will take care of everything?
[07:45] <dverzolla> Razor-X, I need translate some packets, some thinks for my company
[07:46] <Seveas> azambuja, reinstalls are only neccessary when you f* up your system :)
[07:46] <dverzolla> xoz, I will try
[07:46] <nldk> problem with converting Danish characters between Windows and Gnome
[07:46] <nldk> Can anyone help?
[07:46] <Seveas> nldk, describe the problem, otherwise no one can...
[07:46] <Razor-X> dverzolla: good luck ;)
[07:46] <azambuja> Seveas: ok. so i will wait for the framebuffer and bootsplash :-)
[07:46] <muelli> Alright. I head on with stepmania problems :-) Now i need the libavformat.so does anyone know where to get this file?
[07:46] <nldk> OK - here goes
[07:46] <wing`> Seveas, can you help me fixing it? i already tried changing the DNS in the /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf to 192.168.254.254 (my modems router IP) and too lots of valids DNS from my isp too, but it doesnt works
[07:46] <nldk> I have some files with names that use danish characters in Windows
[07:46] <dverzolla> Razor-X, thanks ;)
[07:47] <dverzolla> All, excuse for my english
[07:47] <PIANIST> good day!
[07:47] <Razor-X> dverzolla: if you're thinking about a custom term, try compiling urxvt
[07:47] <Seveas> wing`, did you restart the dhcp server after changing the config file?
[07:47] <^DodGeR^> wing`,  u ened to add a static dns server in windows
[07:47] <nldk> When I zip them with Winzip and copy and extract them in Ubuntu, they don't display correctly
[07:47] <Razor-X> it's in unicode, so it should help you with any language problems
[07:47] <thomas___> "cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp" doesn't bring any sound whatsoever either, grr
[07:47] <wing`> Seveas, yes
[07:47] <thomas___> sound not workingm HELP! hoary. asrock k7vt6. lsmod sais snd_via82xx is loaded. alsamixer sais everything's on. installed codecs from http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs. still no sound..
[07:47] <wing`> ^DodGeR^, ill try that
[07:47] <nldk> I guess it's because Windows uses iso-8859-1 and Ubuntu UTF8
[07:47] <^DodGeR^> in windows under the netwok config set the dns sevrer
[07:47] <Seveas> thomas___, which program?
[07:48] <Seveas> thomas___, do you hear system sounds?
[07:48] <thomas___> mp3blaster. doesn't matter, no system sounds, no cat to /dev/dsp..
[07:48] <thomas___> nothing
[07:48] <dverzolla> Razor-X, I will use the default from gnome
[07:48] <Razor-X> thomas___: why did you cat that to /dev/dsp?
[07:48] <Razor-X> dverzolla: heh, ok ;)
[07:48] <Seveas> nldk, that's windows-brain-deadness
[07:48] <Razor-X> I like my own custom Eterm, meself
[07:48] <PIANIST> a question. Am I able to connect through the Internet via ssh to a machine behind an gateway? Cause the IP adress I see is the IP of the Gateway. And if I know the IP of the Client behind the Gateway (actually i am knowing it) can I connect?
[07:48] <thomas___> Razor-X: read that on a forum to check out if anything gets there
[07:48] <Seveas> nldk, windows does not use unicode, ubuntu does
[07:48] <ray_> I just got mywindows shared printer to work ..wooooo hoooooo
[07:49] <dverzolla> xoz, The var directory are in initrd.gz ?
[07:49] <nldk> Seveas: I know :-)
[07:49] <Razor-X> PIANIST: try it, no harm done
[07:49] <nldk> Seveas: Do you have any suggestions?
[07:49] <Seveas> nldk, iconv might help, I just don't know how to apply it to zipfiles...
[07:49] <PIANIST> Razor-X: I want to know if it is possible
[07:49] <Triffid_Hunter> PIANIST: yes.
[07:49] <Seveas> thomas___, what does lsof /dev/dsp say?
[07:49] <thomas___> come on, noone havy any idea?
[07:49] <AlexBO> Hello!I've a question about a OpenSource program about DataBase: mosaico. I know that this isn't the right channel. Can you redirect me to a right one? (well...if there are anybody that can help me, I won't refuse of course! ;-) )
[07:49] <nldk> Changing my default locale to iso-8859-1 helped, but I guess that will cause some other problems
[07:49] <Seveas> thomas___, be patient...
[07:49] <thomas___> Seveas:
[07:49] <thomas___> COMMAND  PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[07:49] <thomas___> esd     2371 thomas    5w   CHR   14,3      6499 /dev/dsp
[07:49] <Razor-X> thomas___: you coulda just echo'ed something else, it's not nice to echo vmlinuz, and maybe you need to be root to do it
[07:49] <Triffid_Hunter> PIANIST: does the gateway have ssh? if not, you'll have to forward a port through the gateway first
[07:49] <apokryphos> Triffid_Hunter: hehe, your name refer to "The Day of the Triffids"? Great book.
[07:49] <PIANIST> and how do I tell ssh to connect to client x behind gateway y???
[07:50] <Seveas> thomas___, good now esdplay /usr/share/sounds/login.wav
[07:50] <thomas___> Razor-X: catted /dev/urandom, too. did that on my other machine a while back, nixe noise
[07:50] <xoz> dverzolla: initrd is just for booting... very basic root dir... not even a real one.
[07:50] <PIANIST> Triffid: Yes I forward the port. but there are several clients.... how do I say wich I want to connect to?
[07:51] <thomas___> Seveas: esdplay: command not found
[07:51] <Seveas> thomas___, on Ubuntu you cannot use /dev/dsp directly...
[07:51] <dverzolla> xoz, You know where I can find these scripts in the Hoary-CD?
[07:51] <thomas___> oh, right. did that on a debian
[07:51] <Triffid_Hunter> PIANIST: when you forward the port, you forward it to a particular ip...
[07:51] <Seveas> thomas___, sudo aptitude install esound-clients
[07:51] <dverzolla> xoz, All are archived ;(
[07:51] <AlexBO> Well. I've already found the software. bye
[07:51] <xoz> dverzolla: it is just used so that the modules not compiled statically needed to load the ide drivers and rootfs can be loaded before actually loading the real root.
[07:51] <highvoltage> dverzolla: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:51] <thomas___> Seveas: nothing
[07:51] <Razor-X> thomas___: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[07:51] <highvoltage> all the scripts you need are on your system
[07:51] <thomas___> Razor-X: u
[07:52] <thomas___> f kde:)
[07:52] <PIANIST> lets say so... I have the port open on the firewall configuration so no forwarding actually. is it also possible ?
[07:52] <Razor-X> thomas___: I like it meself
[07:52] <PIANIST> <-- sorry German
[07:52] <Seveas> thomas___, what nothing...?
[07:52] <thomas___> Seveas: no sound to hear esdplay'ing that
[07:52] <Seveas> thomas___, but esdplay exited after about 11 seconds?
[07:52] <thomas___> Razor-X: everybody's different, don't wanna start a flame
[07:52] <dverzolla> /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg.config
[07:52] <xoz> dverzolla: read the documentation. you cannot fish here because the info and familiarization with the boot mechanism takes time and understanding.
[07:53] <dverzolla> highvoltage, thanks
[07:53] <thomas___> Seveas: yeah, exited
[07:53] <JingleBells> can someone tell me how to setup XMMS to mute itself and not the entire system?
[07:53] <dverzolla> xoz, Ok! I will search... thanks
[07:53] <Seveas> thomas___, paste the output of amixer on the pastebin
[07:53] <JingleBells> i have it setup to use the ESD output plugin, and now mute in XMMS does sod all
[07:53] <PIANIST> triffid_Hunter: still here?
[07:53] <Razor-X> wow, that's sad, my PDF viewer is taking up more memory than my emacs is ;)
[07:53] <Razor-X> (stupid vi trolls ;)
[07:54] <wing`> ^DodGeR^, its not working man
[07:54] <Razor-X> 5 times more memory, actually
[07:54] <Gerriall> Hey guys. Does Ubuntu support WPA for Wireless with a standard load? Or do I need to add something else to make that work?
[07:54] <thomas___> Seveas: where's the pastebin here?
[07:54] <PIANIST> !seeb Triffid_Hunter
[07:54] <ubotu> PIANIST: Are you smoking crack?
[07:54] <Triffid_Hunter> PIANIST: does your gateway have ssh, or are you forwarding ports?
[07:54] <Razor-X> Gerriall: wireless itself isn't standard
[07:54] <Seveas> thomas___, paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> gotta hate nonstandard  standards.
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> :(
[07:54] <PIANIST> ? ubotu: what ??????????? why?
[07:54] <thomas___> yeah, just got it
[07:54] <^DodGeR^> ok wing` , u got a windows box that cant resolv ip's ? and its net is configured via dhcp ?
[07:54] <Seveas> PIANIST, ubotu is the bot in here
[07:54] <thomas___> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/721
[07:54] <Seveas> you mispelled !seen
[07:55] <PIANIST> Triffid: it has ssh. But I am NOT forwarding.... is it still possible
[07:55] <Razor-X> Dr_Willis: you mean like every single fscking thing that MS does?
[07:55] <muelli> Hmm... I need the libavformat.so but I don't know where to get it. Does anyone in here?
[07:55] <wing`> ^DodGeR^, yes
[07:55] <PIANIST> Seveas: O i c
[07:55] <wing`> ^DodGeR^, it cant resolve ips, but it is connected and configured over dhcp
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> Razor-X,  their standard is 'screw with everyone else'
[07:55] <Razor-X> oh yeah, '`s' and `b' are next to each other on you people's keyboards *frowns*
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:55] <^DodGeR^> u want to configure the windows box to use static information wing` , ie give it an ip/gateway / dns server etc manually, forget dhcp (if possible)
[07:55] <Razor-X> Dr_Willis: I have yet to see and RFC they follow dilligently
[07:55] <Razor-X> s/and/a/
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> cant resolive www to ip# , implies a dns server setting is wrong.. if it cant even ping the ip#'s directly - gateway issue.
[07:56] <wing`> ^DodGeR^, i already tried this way, but it dont even connects
[07:56] <Seveas> thomas___, maybe you have mulitple soundcards..?
[07:56] <wing`> ^DodGeR^, i got closest with DHCP
[07:56] <Seveas> or an onboard and normal card...
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> Razor-X,  RFC's are for  the commoners.
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:56] <wing`> ^DodGeR^, at least its connected, and the internet is shared
[07:56] <Razor-X> Dr_Willis: ;)
[07:56] <wing`> ^DodGeR^, only this small dns problem
[07:56] <Seveas> wing`, you can use DHCP for ip addresses whilst using static DNS servers
[07:57] <thomas___> Seveas: was my first thought, too. but just the onboard one
[07:57] <wing`> Seveas, im trying that, but its not working
[07:57] <Razor-X> i'll bet you, more than half of the people here aren't those `commoners'
[07:57] <Seveas> thomas___, surrround set and speakers plugged only in the back sockets ?
[07:57] <wing`> Seveas, my DNS here in linux is 192.168.254.254 because its a router modem
[07:57] <PIANIST> Triffid_Hunter: it has ssh. But I am NOT forwarding.... is it still possible
[07:57] <Razor-X> I feel like playing some Fantasy RPG.... or making one....
[07:57] <wing`> Seveas, so i dont know what to put in the static dns window
[07:57] <Triffid_Hunter> PIANIST: man ssh. find the tunneling section. you want the -L option
[07:57] <Seveas> wing`, 192.168.254.254
[07:57] <^DodGeR^> the ip of the linux router wing`
[07:57] <wing`> in the STATIC dns?
[07:57] <^DodGeR^> right
[07:58] <thomas___> Seveas: yeah, just speakers in there
[07:58] <wing`> one moment
[07:58] <Seveas> wing`, on the windows machine in the static dns indeed
[07:58] <thespiritoftal> can someone tell me how to install java? I have the bin file...
[07:58] <wing`> ill try that
[07:58] <Muelli> Hmm... Does no one know where to get the libavformat.so ?
[07:58] <Seveas> wing`, plug em in the front speaker sockets
[07:58] <Razor-X> thespiritoftal: ./foo.bin
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> the ubuntu wiki/forums have detailed docs on java installing. :P
[07:58] <^DodGeR^> !java
[07:58] <ubotu> java is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[07:58] <^DodGeR^> @ thespiritoftal
[07:59] <xoz> Muelli: install apt-file
[07:59] <arpan> hi, any enlightenment users here?
[07:59] <Seveas> Muelli, install ffmpeg
[07:59] <xoz> ubutu, who owns you?
[07:59] <Muelli> i'll try xoz
[07:59] <Seveas> xoz, cafuego
[08:00] <xoz> ubotu: who owns you
[08:00] <ubotu> xoz: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:00] <thomas___> Seveas: meant "<@Seveas> wing`, plug em in the front speaker sockets" for me? i only have the back sockets, none on the front on this box..
[08:00] <Muelli> Seveas, i already did, but there is definitly no libavfomat._so_ there is a .a
[08:00] <PIANIST> Triffid_Hunter: When I am not wrong it means that I connect to the gateway with the IP and port of the Client as parameter for the -L option ?
[08:00] <xoz> Seveas: similar factoids with dpkg?
[08:00] <Triffid_Hunter> PIANIST: yep
[08:00] <Seveas> thomas___, yeah sorry was meant for you but you misunderstood my earlier question. Discard it :)
[08:00] <PIANIST> ok thnx dude
[08:00] <apokryphos> xoz: he's a blootbot too
[08:01] <Seveas> Muelli, hmm
[08:01] <thomas___> Seveas: another idea?
[08:01] <PIANIST> cya  @  all
[08:01] <Muelli> I checked on rpmfind.com too :-/
[08:01] <Seveas> thomas___, not really... are you sure the speakers are switched on?
[08:01] <wing`> Seveas, not working
[08:01] <wing`> Seveas,  no way, its not resolving
[08:02] <thomas___> Seveas: yeah, and everything works in windows, too ..
[08:02] <Cooner750> alright. I got error 15 after formatting the Ubuntu partition. So I installed Ubuntu again just to be able to boot windows. Anybody know why this error appears
[08:02] <Cooner750> ?
[08:02] <wing`> Seveas, my ubuntu is configured with dhcp3, dns = 192.168.254.254
[08:02] <wing`> wing`, and windows got the IP, but no DNS
[08:02] <thomas___> Seveas: this is really frustrating. i'm trying to get my little brother switch to linux (ubuntu) and his sound doesn't work :(
[08:02] <wing`> oops
[08:02] <Cooner750> this error: http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/cooner750/darn_errors.html
[08:02] <wing`> Seveas,
[08:03] <Cooner750> thomas___: do you have the audio codecs installed (aka trying to play mp3s?)
[08:03] <Cooner750> ?
[08:03] <Seveas> coobra, sounds like an error in the installer...
[08:03] <thomas___> Cooner750: yeah
[08:03] <Cooner750> Do the other sounds work (system sounds)?
[08:03] <thomas___> Cooner750: did the "install multimedoa codecs" from the inofficial german howto
[08:03] <wing`> ^DodGeR^, are you there?
[08:03] <thomas___> Cooner750: no sound works at all
[08:03] <Seveas> thomas___, i'm out of clue now too: all diagnostics show it should work....
[08:03] <Cooner750> Try http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/cooner750/codecs82456.html
[08:03] <^DodGeR^> wing`,  im here yes
[08:03] <thomas___> Seveas: exactly what i thought..
[08:04] <^DodGeR^> wing`, windows shoudl really eb the easiest to configure dns/routing for
[08:04] <wing`> ^DodGeR^, its not working
[08:04] <wing`> ^DodGeR^,  maybe the problem is in my dhcp server?
[08:04] <thomas___> Cooner750: they're all already installed..
[08:04] <wing`> ubuntu
[08:04] <Seveas> Cooner750, that error on the webpage is not grub error 15....
[08:04] <Cooner750> I know
[08:04] <^DodGeR^> if thw windows box can ping the gateway and dns server it should work wing`
[08:04] <Cooner750> I know why I got the GRUB error. That's not the issue
[08:04] <Seveas> ok
[08:04] <wing`> i read something about dnsmasq
[08:04] <Cooner750> It's the error I get when Ubuntu starts to load
[08:04] <wing`> dont know
[08:04] <Seveas> this is probably an intrd error
[08:05] <Seveas> or a malformed menu.lst
[08:05] <wing`> ^DodGeR^, maybe its not working because my DNS is my modem IP
[08:05] <Cooner750> I've had the same problem with a different distro on a pendrive
[08:05] <Cooner750> same error
[08:05] <thomas___> FUCK
[08:05] <Seveas> wing`, use one of your providers dns servers then...
[08:05] <^DodGeR^> yeah wing` - try using an open DNS server ..
[08:05] <Chris_Tucker> how can i find the urls to the repository stuff so i can download the .deb files with wget?
[08:05] <Cooner750> thomas___: did you do the gst-register step?
[08:05] <^DodGeR^> wing`, use the ip of a DNS server your isp gave u
[08:06] <^DodGeR^> maybe that works wing`
[08:06] <wing`> ok
[08:06] <wing`> ill call my isp
[08:06] <Cooner750> open a terminal and type gst-register-0.8 and hit enter
[08:06] <Cooner750> see what that does
[08:06] <Seveas> Chris_Tucker, apt-cache show $packagename
[08:06] <Muelli> Hmm... Still no libavformat.so :-\
[08:06] <Seveas> Muelli, apt-file search indicate the file does not exist on Ubuntu...
[08:06] <zerboxx> What is the easiest way to see information re: my partitions?
[08:06] <Seveas> zerboxx, sudo fdisk -l
[08:07] <Chris_Tucker> thanks Seveas
[08:07] <Cooner750> My steps for installing codecs have worked every time. I know I can play MP3s amd
[08:07] <Muelli> hmm Seveas .. So what to do? *g*
[08:07] <Cooner750> and*
[08:07] <Cooner750> Mpegs
[08:07] <zerboxx> Seveas: Is there a way to see how much space each has, and how much they're currently using?
[08:07] <Seveas> Muelli, ENOCLUE :)
[08:07] <NightLord> i just installed wine using apt-get, how do i get it to automatically run when i click an exe?
[08:07] <Cooner750> http://www.myfilestash.com/userfiles/cooner750/codecs82456.html --- I'll have to put that on my website some day
[08:07] <Seveas> zerboxx, df -h
[08:07] <xoz> zerboxx: df -h
[08:07] <drummer> Help please - I pasted in the repository lists from paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 and now I get an error message of "W: Couldn't stat source package list...." for every line in sources.list
[08:07] <Cooner750> NightLord: Right click on the EXE and then "Properties"
[08:07] <Cooner750> go to the "Open With" tab
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> NightLord,  ive found that rarely works out well.
[08:07] <zerboxx> Seveas: xoz: Just what I was looking for, thanks!
[08:08] <Seveas> drummer, apt-get update
[08:08] <Cooner750> Click "Add" (if wine isnt there already) and find wine in the list. Should be towards the bottom
[08:08] <drummer> Seveas - I'll try that.
[08:08] <Muelli> Seveas,  *g* well.. Do you know, if that file is for debian out there?
[08:09] <arpan> hi, can i have 2 GUI desktops open on ubuntu?
[08:09] <NightLord> thanks
[08:10] <Cooner750> NightLord: Did it work?
[08:10] <zooko> Greetings, People of #ubuntu!  Where can I get w32codecs?
[08:10] <Seveas> arpan, yes
[08:10] <^DodGeR^> u can arpan , i ran gdm twice - worked fine
[08:10] <arpan> Seveas, how do i do it?
[08:11] <klaym> anyone know which is the most popular p2p client out there? (most users - most files)
[08:11] <klaym> I mean p2p network
[08:11] <Seveas> arpan, applications -> system tools -> new login
[08:11] <xoz> dverzolla: don't pm me
[08:11] <everett_> klyam, most of them are pretty overloaded.
[08:11] <xoz> klaym: try gtk-gnutella
[08:11] <Seveas> arpan, and if you install the xnest package: applications -> system tools -> new login in nested windows (that one is really cooL)
[08:11] <Jinkguns> Bittorrent is really where it is at.
[08:12] <klaym> yea I'd guess bittorrent too
[08:12] <phixion> buh having so much trouble trying to get rtorrent working
[08:12] <Jinkguns> They have some good bittorrent search sites up if you google it.
[08:12] <arpan> ^DodGeRthx guys
[08:12] <arpan> its working
[08:13] <Jinkguns> How do I kill wanda the fish? <:
[08:13] <ep> zooko, to install w32codecs you have to add a backport repository to your sources.list, update and apt-get install
[08:13] <Seveas> Jinkguns, with a shotgun :)
[08:13] <Jinkguns> :D
[08:13] <zooko> ep: I have deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted , but apt-cache search says no w32codecs.
[08:14] <zooko> 
[08:14] <zooko> I'm now following the instructions involving running a gstreamer thing...
[08:14] <thespiritoftal> friends when I do "sudo apt-get upgrade after hitting y it aborts without saying anything :/ does anyone know why this happens?
[08:14] <Seveas> zooko, you need hoary-extras instead of hoary-backports
[08:14] <zooko> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[08:14] <zooko> Seveas: thanks!
[08:14] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is not the best source of information....
[08:14] <wing`> ^DodGeR^, nothing
[08:14] <wing`> ^DodGeR^, dont works
[08:14] <zooko> ubuntuguide failed me already before I came to this channel.
[08:14] <Jinkguns> DIE WANDA DIE *Click*
[08:14] <klaym> where can I find 'BitTorrent Meta File' (gnome bittorrent asking me on initial startup :P)
[08:15] <^DodGeR^> very weird wing` , is there another box u can route the windows box through ?
[08:15] <zooko> Oh, I see that it *does* say hoary-extras in there.  The text was too much so I didn't see that part...
[08:15] <wing`> no
[08:15] <^DodGeR^> ugg
[08:15] <xoz> thespiritoftal: how large is the total upgrade in disk size?
[08:15] <wing`> its pinging googles ips but not www.google.com
[08:15] <wing`> same with the other websites
[08:15] <wing`> the windows client
[08:16] <wing`> why is that :/
[08:16] <Jinkguns> Has anyone here have experince with kernel-package? I need to downgrade from 2.6 to 2.4 with a fully compiled source in /usr/src/linux and install matching kernel headers.
[08:16] <^DodGeR^> good q wing` , it 'should' work fine really - set windows dns sevrer manually and reboot windows ? no clues :(
[08:16] <phixion> anyone here use rtorrent?
[08:17] <Seveas> Jinkguns, you are going to run into a LOT of problems when you run 2.4
[08:17] <apokryphos> phixion: yup
[08:17] <Seveas> Jinkguns, ubuntu relies heavily on 2.6
[08:17] <phixion> apokryphos, im having so many probs getting it working, u fancy helping me? ;/
[08:17] <xoz> thespiritoftal: no pm please
[08:17] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Y do the NetBeans fonts look so 'old-fashioned'
[08:17] <zooko> thanks!
[08:17] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ?
[08:17] <thespiritoftal> sorry
[08:17] <apokryphos> phixion: what's the prob, and what app you using?
[08:18] <Jinkguns> Well this scanning tunneling electron microscope software that turns this computer connected to $4,000 worth of scientific equipment into something useful likes 2.3.
[08:18] <Jinkguns> *2.4
[08:18] <Jinkguns> :(
[08:18] <phixion> well, im issuing the command 'rtorrent file.torrent'
[08:18] <xoz> Jinkguns: 2.4 to 2.6, you can use make oldconfig.. but downgrade, good luck!
[08:18] <phixion> rtorrent: error while loading shared libraries: libtorrent.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:19] <Jinkguns> o.O
[08:19] <rathel> is there a console command that I could use to convert png to xpm? instead of opening up the gimp and doing it that way.
[08:19] <apokryphos> phixion: where did you get that program from? I don't see it in the repos
[08:19] <apokryphos> phixion: I really recommend using azureus
[08:19] <Jinkguns> How do I install depmod.modutils? It sin't on synaptic's universe repositories.
[08:19] <xoz> rathel: man imagemagick
[08:19] <wing`> ^DodGeR^,  :/
[08:19] <Seveas> rathel, mogrify -format xpm
[08:19] <wing`> ^DodGeR^, i'll have to give up and stall windows again here lol
[08:19] <phixion> dloaded it
[08:19] <phixion> azureus spits out loads of errors tho
[08:20] <Seveas> rathel, part of imagemagick
[08:20] <wing`> ^DodGeR^, i'll have to give up and install windows again here lol
[08:20] <rathel> okay, thanks.
[08:20] <apokryphos> phixion: like what?
[08:20] <phixion> when i start azureus i get an update popup
[08:20] <phixion> then i get an error for tht
[08:20] <qt2> wow...
[08:20] <phixion> then it randomly spits out errors
[08:20] <qt2> my firefox extentions page looks VERY strange...
[08:20] <apokryphos> phixion: ignore it
[08:20] <qt2> o.o;
[08:20] <qt2> https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/?application={ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}
[08:20] <apokryphos> phixion: asking to update is not an error message
[08:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Linux systems should use a SAME base-font for all apps on a current system....y does every app have different foints in the menubars???
[08:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> it's irritating
[08:21] <phixion> lol... i know, i mean the update box pops up with .zip files in (windows updates) and then i get an error in the bottom right corner
[08:21] <LuNaTiK^GuY> those are some design-cues that M$ has got an edge over Linux  IMHO
[08:21] <HappyFool> firefox still broken ?
[08:21] <Seveas> LuNaTiK^GuY, bull...
[08:21] <apokryphos> HappyFool: yes
[08:21] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Seveas why?
[08:21] <^DodGeR^> wing it shouldnt need a reinstall
[08:21] <doonz> is it possible to run windows games on ubuntu?
[08:22] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i dont like having a trillion fonts all around
[08:22] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i want a standard!
[08:22] <ep> what version of firefox is broken?
[08:22] <Jinkguns> doonz, www.winex.com
[08:22] <Seveas> LuNaTiK^GuY, read up about qt/gtk/gth2 and understand the differences....
[08:22] <joolz> ep: the last one
[08:22] <joolz> ep: if you're on hoary: don't do todays ff update!!
[08:22] <doonz> thnx Jink
[08:22] <Seveas> you make your own standard by only using programs that are based upon one of these..
[08:22] <LuNaTiK^GuY> the differences should be there in the first place darnnnnnnn
[08:23] <qt2> is there a reason my firefox extentions page is showing up in like... rss mode?
[08:23] <apokryphos> Err, why shouldn't the differneces be there?
[08:23] <Seveas> brb
[08:23] <wing`> :/
[08:23] <apokryphos> If you're using a different toolkit you should expect different customizations
[08:23] <ep> i did one yesterdaty or the day before, can't recall -- but I haven't notice anything wrong with firefox.
[08:23] <LuNaTiK^GuY> apokryphos, ok how can i get ONE standard look?
[08:23] <Jinkguns> oops
[08:23] <Jinkguns> dooz, http://www.transgaming.com/
[08:23] <Jinkguns> There. :D
[08:23] <xoz> talking of people talking in different language....
[08:23] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: Not sure how to do it for gnome, since I don't use it; for kde I do.
[08:24] <Jinkguns> Winex from transgaming is $5 a month, but it worked for me really well.
[08:24] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i think i'll be going on to Kubuntu :(
[08:24] <noddaba> alright, so a co-worker hosed our box by moving the rootdir to a subdir, and now i can't even ls.  i recall (maybe i'm wrong) that there's a way to still get a directory listing just using built in bash stuff.  isn't it like:    for x in .; do echo $x; done ?
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> qt2,  ive noticed probvmes with it for the last 2 days
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> qt2,  not sure whats going on with them
[08:24] <LuNaTiK^GuY> darn i love gnome for some of its features :(
[08:24] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: just to get similar fonts? Sounds like a bad reason. Don't get me wrong, I recommend Kubuntu over ordinary Ubuntu, but for other reasons :P
[08:24] <qt2> Dr_Willis, *asks in #firefox*
[08:24] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i dont wish to part
[08:24] <HappyFool> noddaba: try maybe 'for x in *; do echo $; done'
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> qt2,  it was messing up under windows and linux for me both
[08:25] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: you don't need to part. Install kubuntu and see if you like it; you can use both at the same time
[08:25] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: unless you're low on space...
[08:25] <LuNaTiK^GuY> apokryphos, i find it very irritating to have to face different font-types for every app
[08:25] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i tried kubuntu...its was nice
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> heh first thing i normally do is instll the kubuntu packages.
[08:25] <xoz> noddaba: try for i in *; do echo $i; done
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> so i got both
[08:25] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but i found ubuntu more functional in some respects
[08:26] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: any examples?
[08:26] <LuNaTiK^GuY> apokryphos, it may be i learnt more in gnome....when i was yet a beginner with Kubuntu :)
[08:26] <LuNaTiK^GuY> u tihnk i should go for Kubuntu?
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> i install ubuntu, then simple apt-get kubunut-somthing :P heh heh best of both worlds
[08:26] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: I think you should definitely try it out
[08:27] <xoz> ubuntu is good for desktop but not for serious server or development system
[08:27] <apokryphos> Dr_Willis: kubuntu-desktop
[08:27] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i did use Kubuntu
[08:27] <noddaba> HappyFool, xoz, that did it, thanks
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> i imagine eventually they will ask during install  what you want.
[08:27] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, try it out now, ask questions in #kubuntu and see how it goes
[08:28] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ok i'll do that :)
[08:28] <LuNaTiK^GuY> what am i expecting?
[08:28] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: an amazing desktop environment ;-)
[08:28] <phixion> repos are sooooooo slowwwwwwwwwww
[08:28] <LuNaTiK^GuY> kdevelop is awesome......and so is k3b
[08:28] <LuNaTiK^GuY> something of the sort should be in gnome :S
[08:29] <ep> Where can I read up on the firefox bug?
[08:29] <qt2> Dr_Willis, perhaps it has something to do with the new deer park alpha?
[08:29] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: amaroK is probably my favourite at the moment
[08:29] <apokryphos> especially development version of it; got some excellent new stuff
[08:29] <LuNaTiK^GuY> u can burn cd/dvd with amaroK?
[08:29] <ep> our ubuntu/firefox bug
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> qt2,  not sre what ya mean :P i went with a clean firefox install yesterday and the site was all messed up.. went back later and it worked.. but acted odd in ways
[08:29] <The_Vox> apokryphos: amarok rules...except it insists on killing kde or X (haven't debuged what exactly) in my box every now and then and pissing me off
[08:30] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: oh, I meant just as "my favourite app" at the moment. You can burn CDs with it though via k3b
[08:30] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and in gnome?
[08:30] <wing`> anyone here can help me with a DNS problem?
[08:30] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wots the k3b substitute?
[08:30] <apokryphos> The_Vox: sounds odd; are you sure it's down to amaroK? Are you running the version from the repositories?
[08:30] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: there's apps like gnomebaker I think
[08:30] <The_Vox> apokryphos: yes and yes
[08:30] <apokryphos> none as advanced, though
[08:30] <HappyFool> here's a thread about b0rken firefox; it seems it might involve extensions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50686&page=1&pp=10
[08:31] <taz> Question : I have installed a samba server here.. When i try to connect to a folder i have shared it wont accept my usal login.. Is it different logins for samba?
[08:31] <The_Vox> apokryphos: once every 10 or so times, when I hit stop X or KDE bombs
[08:31] <apokryphos> The_Vox: sounds really mean; you should compile a bug report
[08:31] <apokryphos> The_Vox: though, I'd recommend compiling 1.3beta2 from source. New features there -- great stuf.
[08:31] <apokryphos> *stuff
[08:31] <xoz> taz: possible encryption problem.... one expects plain text, the other expects encryption.
[08:32] <The_Vox> apokryphos: I've been thinking about doing that, actually...and see if my luck gets better and they got the marginal bug that is killing me :)
[08:32] <ep> Here it is, I found the ubuntu bug information on the firefox page!  It detected I was using ubuntu firefox and game be the url of the bug report.
[08:32] <HappyFool> taz: i think you need to add your user to the smb database using 'smbpasswd' (this is if you want to connect *to* a linux box, not from)
[08:32] <xoz> taz: try another client or check configuration of the samba server.
[08:32] <occy> grrr
[08:32] <apokryphos> The_Vox: hopefully; it's definitely worth trying out
[08:32] <The_Vox> HappyFool: it depends on the security mode you chose in smb.conf
[08:32] <taz> HappyFool, ah okis :)
[08:32] <LuNaTiK^GuY> once i get kubuntu-desktop....does that mean i'll have kde replace my gnome?
[08:32] <xoz> taz: assuming you have correct smbpasswd
[08:33] <taz> xoz, i recognice the problem you talk about..
[08:33] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: no
[08:33] <The_Vox> LuNaTiK^GuY: you can chose gnome or kde in the login screen
[08:33] <xoz> taz: and?
[08:33] <LuNaTiK^GuY> oh ic ;)
[08:33] <LuNaTiK^GuY> so no need to install kubuntu from scratch :)
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> LuNaTiK^GuY,  heh right...
[08:33] <apokryphos> Nope, never.
[08:33] <taz> xoz, i will try.. i did set a new smb password now..
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> LuNaTiK^GuY,  its trivially easy.
[08:33] <DekaPink> Bit of a stupid question here... Has gnome ever been ported to windows? xD
[08:34] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but will my installed net beans be on kde too?
[08:34] <qt2> Dr_Willis, http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2005/07/12/deer-park-alpha-2-released/ <- i'm referring to this.
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> DekaPink,  with cygwin you can get X and gnome going.
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> DekaPink,  i Think... :P
[08:34] <xoz> taz: OS X smb support had problems also... we have to fool it to recognize plain text authentication.
[08:34] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: net beans?
[08:34] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yeah the Java IDE...Netbeans
[08:34] <noddaba> alright, so while most of the files are still there, /bin and /etc are gone.  i can get to scp and rcp in /usr/bin, but I'm assuming because the /etc dir is gone, it cant figure out who i am, so I get this error when trying to scp:  unknown user 0  Any ideas?
[08:34] <DekaPink> Cr_Willis: Cool... :D Yeah, I really don't know which way is up in cygwin. Hehe.
[08:34] <taz> xoz, nah.. did not work with the password i set...
[08:34] <DekaPink> Dr*
[08:35] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: all your programs should run fine still of course, no idea what that is though.
[08:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> the free IDE from Sun
[08:35] <xoz> taz: check /etc/samba/smb.conf ... try reversing the option regarding password encryption.
[08:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> its awesome
[08:35] <apokryphos> DekaPink: you can use Tab for autocompletion of nicks in IRC
[08:35] <DekaPink> apokryphos: How keen... Thank you. :D
[08:35] <taz> xoz, ok, will try.. thx
[08:35] <xoz> taz: you can also try commandline instead of gui to have full control of the client's option
[08:35] <taz> ok
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> qt2,  what the heck is deerpark? yet another browser branching? :P
[08:36] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wots the difference between X and something like Gnome or KDE?
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> X is what Gnome and KDE run on top of
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> X is the foundation. Gnome is the House.
[08:36] <Seveas> LuNaTiK^GuY, X is the core, gnome and kde are the desktop envronments...
[08:36] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: GNOME and KDE are GUI desktop environments
[08:36] <Seveas> Dr_Willis, nice one
[08:36] <LuNaTiK^GuY> hmmm
[08:36] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wot is X's job?
[08:37] <LuNaTiK^GuY> to keep everything running even if gnome-panel is killed?
[08:37] <qt2> Dr_Willis, http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:Home_Page <- Its the codename for FireFox 1.1...
[08:37] <apokryphos> err... no. GNOME relies upon the X server to run
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> qt2,  yea - just found the faq. :P  gesh cant they just call it FireFox Beta1.1 :P
[08:38] <LuNaTiK^GuY> is there an analogy in Windows?
[08:38] <LuNaTiK^GuY> :)
[08:38] <ep> will the firefox problem be fixed with a future upgrade?
[08:38] <qt2> Dr_Willis, no, because it's Alpha 2... *snicker*
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> qt2,  yea - just found the faq. :P  gesh cant they just call it FireFox Alpha2.1.1.1.1.11.1 :P
[08:38] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: I tend to think of it in levels. X is just the level below DEs
[08:39] <djp> ep: hopefully. Add any comments you have here https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12854
[08:39] <qt2> Dr_Willis, deer park sounds cooler. ;)
[08:39] <qt2> speaking of which... longhorn finally got renamed... :(
[08:39] <mebaran151> LuNaTiK^GuY, windows isnt quite so modular
[08:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> apokryphos, hmmm ok.....each time i try learning something new with Linux...its like there's so much to handle :(
[08:39] <xoz> LuNaTiK^GuY: in windows, you mess the graphics, you're dead. in linux, X, desktop, etc are just separate processes .. you fucked one of them, the kernel is still working... no blue screen of *death*
[08:39] <Morti> qt2: What're they calling it now?
[08:39] <mebaran151> you cant start windows without starting its implementation of x
[08:40] <mebaran151> X draws windows on your screen
[08:40] <qt2> moquist, http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/default.mspx <= Windows Vista
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> qt2,  "Trailor Park"
[08:40] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yes the modularity part i got
[08:40] <LuNaTiK^GuY> it shows all over
[08:40] <mebaran151> it is the abstraction of the video device
[08:40] <LuNaTiK^GuY> sometimes i liked it...sometimes i dont :)
[08:40] <mebaran151> so that every application doesnt need to know about the framebuffer
[08:40] <mebaran151> in this case it is very GOOD
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> LuNaTiK^GuY,  linux is all about "Layers and Legos" little programs (legos) form together to make layers.. that then have more layers of software on them..
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:40] <mebaran151> as X hosts programs for you
[08:40] <xoz> LuNaTiK^GuY: KISS --- keep it simple stupid.
[08:40] <mebaran151> if something goes astray you can just kill and restart X
[08:41] <The_Vox> LuNaTiK^GuY: X paints pixels in your screen...kde or gnome or enlightenment or whatever else just tells X which pixels to paint and with what characteristics to paint them
[08:41] <taz> xoz, question.. in smb.conf some lines are commented with ; in the beginning.. is that line "disabled" then? -> ;   guest account = nobody
[08:41] <mebaran151> it is up to a manager like GNOME or KDE to actually tell X what windows to draw
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> ; is a commented out line
[08:41] <LuNaTiK^GuY> hmmm
[08:41] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ok X is nice ;)
[08:41] <xoz> taz: yep, they are commments
[08:41] <The_Vox> taz: yes
[08:41] <taz> okis
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> however ; foo=bar   MAY be the default anyway its just showing the setting and its 'normal' setting.
[08:41] <qt2> modularity is good, but it needs unification.
[08:41] <taz> xoz,  encrypt passwords = true
[08:41] <qt2> ...that sounds retarted when i say it that way.... XD
[08:42] <xoz> and if you're good, you can request X to paint other people's desktop in your desktop and know what they are doing in real time :)
[08:42] <apokryphos> LuNaTiK^GuY: aha -- [[X_Window_System] ] 
[08:42] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ok now can i ask something else?
[08:42] <mebaran151> shoot
[08:42] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i aam playing dvd's
[08:42] <LuNaTiK^GuY> they run fine
[08:42] <xoz> taz: yep
[08:42] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but
[08:43] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i took a look at CPU usage
[08:43] <taz> xoz, that was already set..
[08:43] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and its like at 30%
[08:43] <LuNaTiK^GuY> in WinXP it never went up that high :S
[08:43] <xoz> taz: try false
[08:43] <xoz> taz: or use a client that use encryption
[08:43] <mebaran151> LuNaTiK^GuY, how do you actually know?
[08:43] <LuNaTiK^GuY> coz i checked the CPU usage too
[08:43] <LuNaTiK^GuY> lo.
[08:43] <LuNaTiK^GuY> lol
[08:43] <mebaran151> I think WinXP takes out its own processes when it gives you CPU usage
[08:44] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and it ran smoother in XP
[08:44] <mebaran151> so that when nothing is running you get 0 usage at all (it basically forgets the kernel)
[08:44] <LuNaTiK^GuY> every 5 seconds or so..i'm getting a slight drag
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> you may want to enable the DMA access for the dvd drive also.
[08:44] <mebaran151> LuNaTiK^GuY, what player are you using
[08:44] <mebaran151> try mplayer
[08:44] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yes i think i have to....
[08:44] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i used both Xine and Totem
[08:44] <mebaran151> overall better system
[08:44] <LuNaTiK^GuY> same results
[08:44] <RodrigoDLM> Hi everyone
[08:44] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ok i'll get mplayer
[08:44] <taz> xoz, will try that... false.. btw.. when i share a folder.. what is the "browseable" setting for?
[08:44] <mebaran151> actually
[08:44] <mebaran151> if you are comfortable
[08:44] <xoz> LuNaTiK^GuY: mplayer is the *best*
[08:45] <mebaran151> it is best to compile mplayer from source
[08:45] <mebaran151> because than you can enable really nifty features
[08:45] <LuNaTiK^GuY> is there something like PowerDVD for linux? lol
[08:45] <mebaran151> like large-file support and SSE2 extension
[08:45] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i love it :S
[08:45] <Burgundavia> actually, mplayer is best avoided
[08:45] <wing`> anyone there that knows about DNS and dhcp can help me
[08:45] <mebaran151> LuNaTiK^GuY, mplayer
[08:45] <mebaran151> Burgundavia, why?
[08:45] <mebaran151> works flawlessly in my custom compile
[08:45] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ok mplayer it will be
[08:45] <xoz> taz: its contents are listed
[08:45] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, not pretty, doesn't integrate well with anything, hostile upstream
[08:45] <sksjda> wing` me too i have same proplem setting it
[08:46] <wing`> sksjda, everything is working here, internet shared and stuff... but the FUCKING dns dont work in the client
[08:46] <taz> xoz, via smb? .. ok..
[08:46] <mebaran151> Burgundavia, I am trying to write a GTK2 frontend for it right now
[08:46] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i get an error "New_face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong" when starting mplayer
[08:46] <ep> i think mplayer is pretty.  Its those win-amp skins i cant' stand :p
[08:46] <wing`> sksjda, i can only ping by ip, if i put the hostname nothing works
[08:46] <mebaran151> but yeah, it's a little shallow on integration
[08:46] <taz> xoz, how do i restart the smbd?
[08:46] <mebaran151> unfortunately it has the best codecs in the business
[08:46] <xoz> taz: sudo /etc/init.d/smb restart
[08:47] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, rb and totem would be better targets if you are trying to help ubuntu
[08:47] <felixdz2> Can anybody tell me the package name of the little thingy that tells you how mcuh power you have in your laptop?
[08:47] <mebaran151> rb?
[08:47] <Burgundavia> rhythmbox
[08:47] <taz> xoz, you are a star :)
[08:47] <mebaran151> rhythmbox seems to fit all my needs
[08:47] <mebaran151> and it works flawless
[08:47] <mebaran151> and I am on AMD64
[08:47] <mebaran151> not sure what to fix .....
[08:47] <sksjda> i have proplem setting the DNS and i have static config not dhcp
[08:48] <mebaran151> it looks nice an reads my ipod
[08:48] <drummer> ok I've run apt-get update 3 times and I still get error messages when I fire up synaptic   errors are: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:48] <wing`> my DNS works only in server
[08:48] <wing`> its not working @ client
[08:48] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, extended it mostly
[08:48] <mebaran151> with what?
[08:48] <mebaran151> it feels pretty complete
[08:48] <Burgundavia> cd playback
[08:48] <Burgundavia> zeroconf support
[08:48] <mebaran151> ah
[08:48] <Burgundavia> ripping
[08:48] <mebaran151> cd playback
[08:48] <Burgundavia> track editing
[08:49] <mebaran151> I dont think that should be part of rhythmbox, editing
[08:49] <Burgundavia> s/track/tag
[08:49] <xoz> drummer: meaning either it is true or you messed up with your config. try using another mirror site?
[08:49] <mebaran151> itunes is the standard
[08:49] <Burgundavia> yes
[08:49] <drummer> xoz: what other mirror site and how to I configure to use that site?
[08:49] <mcphail> felixdz2: i think the battery monitor just comes as part of the gnome desktop
[08:49] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, I would love you if you could get a nice notification icon, ala the muine one
[08:50] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how can i set mplayer to play dvd-s from another drive
[08:50] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i have 2?
[08:50] <xoz> drummer: try apt-setup.. not sure. search in www.ubuntu.org?
[08:50] <taz> xoz, /etc/init.d/samba restart   ... fyi ;)
[08:50] <drummer> xoz: Ok I'll do some looking
[08:50] <xoz> taz: heh. is it working?
[08:51] <chaps0063> Can someone recommend a good WM?
[08:51] <xoz> openbox if you want small and powerful
[08:51] <taz> xoz, nopes.. as username i use an account i have.. that is supposed to work i guess? .. will try with the encrypt=false option now..
[08:51] <blacktooth> xfce4!!!
[08:51] <ed1t> gnome!
[08:51] <mebaran151> Burgundavia, I dont know muine
[08:51] <felixdz2> I installed yesterday with xfce4 in a minimal system. Decided I wanted gnome back. So I have just did apt-get install gnome-desktop
[08:52] <mebaran151> as I am amd64
[08:52] <nophix> none!
[08:52] <ed1t> lol
[08:52] <felixdz2> But the applet doesn't seem t be there
[08:52] <ed1t> use teh command line
[08:52] <nophix> no, use your own mind and try them all out :P
[08:52] <felixdz2> I find Fluxbox good for some things
[08:52] <xoz> taz: create a passwd... smbpasswd.. don't use your account since it may not be encrypted.
[08:52] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, the muine notification thing allows me to queue music without opening the whole muine window
[08:52] <mcphail> felixdz2: have you right clicked on the top panel?
[08:52] <mebaran151> oh
[08:52] <mebaran151> you mean like a little box
[08:53] <taz> xoz, i did create a password with smbpasswd ... what username am i supposed to have then?
[08:53] <ep> damn power company, lost electricity and my computer died.   I gotta get me on of uninteruptable power thingies
[08:53] <xoz> taz: ah... what i mean is make sure you don't enable synchronization with your account password...ignore it
[08:54] <xoz> taz: gotta sleep... night and good luck!
[08:54] <taz> xoz, oh.. w8.. hmm
[08:54] <taz> xoz, machine 127.0.0.1 rejected the (anonymous) password change: Error was : Account disabled.
[08:54] <taz> xoz, ahh....
[08:54] <LuNaTiK^GuY> hmmmm
[08:54] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i cant get mplayer to play from my second drive
[08:54] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, ya
[08:54] <taz> xoz, guess i have to specify wich user for smbpassword too ;)
[08:55] <felixdz2> mcphail, I figured it out. I just needed apt-get install gnome-applets-dbg
[08:55] <ep> can i get a fairly cheap uninteruptable power backup (supply) for a home-desktop system and still expect it to work?
[08:55] <mebaran151> Burgundavia, could you send me a screen shot
[08:55] <mebaran151> I think doing it wouldnt be too hard
[08:55] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, let me find you one
[08:55] <felixdz2> Thanks anyway
[08:55] <mcphail> ok
[08:55] <mebaran151> though mplayer is easier to extend as EVERYTHING can be set at the cli
[08:55] <mebaran151> I dont know if I can do that with rhytmbox
[08:56] <wing`> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=267217#post267217
[08:57] <doonz> um guys i just installed cedega4.4 but um how do i work it?
[08:57] <sksjda> i have proplem .. i v'e setting the network and i can ping router and other computers but can't access to internet .  any ideas ?
[08:57] <HappyFool> i really *hate* nethack. stupid game.
[08:57] <taz> ppl... i have installed samba.. do i need to add a user account for smbd to be able to connect to my linux machine?
[08:58] <spamalope> wow frw
[08:58] <spamalope> er ftw
[08:58] <taz> and would "smbpasswd -L -a testuser" work?
[08:58] <Seveas> taz, you can use existing system accounts
[08:59] <Seveas> taz, you need to set samba passwords for them though
[08:59] <taz> Seveas, yes, but to do that i have to enable it? right?
[08:59] <MrGardenHoseMan> is there anything that can convert .bin .cue to iso that comes with ubuntu
[08:59] <taz> Seveas, ok
[08:59] <Seveas> taz, yes, with smbpasswd
[08:59] <Seveas> MrGardenHoseMan, bchunk
[08:59] <MrGardenHoseMan> comes with ubuntu?
[08:59] <Seveas> sksjda, can you ping 194.145.194.141
[09:00] <PurpleBlu> what is a ASP file?
[09:00] <mebaran151> Burgundavia, looking at the docs
[09:00] <taz> Seveas, Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user tazsmb. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?  .....
[09:00] <Seveas> MrGardenHoseMan, from the Ubuntu repositories, yes
[09:00] <mebaran151> doesnt look there is an easy way to pass a new playlist to the player
[09:00] <taz> Seveas, so i cant add a virtual user for smbd?
[09:00] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks
[09:00] <Seveas> taz, no
[09:00] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, damn
[09:00] <mebaran151> Muine, by contrast can be passed by a simple cli option
[09:00] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, muine ui --> http://www.nat.org/2004/october/muine.png
[09:00] <taz> Seveas, i see :)
[09:01] <HappyFool> taz, have you read this? :
[09:01] <HappyFool> !samba
[09:01] <ubotu> samba is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[09:01] <taz> no..
[09:01] <mebaran151> Burgundavia, Muine looks nice ....
[09:01] <taz> but i will now :)
[09:01] <HappyFool> taz: also take a look at www.samba.org -- there's a comprehensive setup howto there
[09:01] <mebaran151> looks it integrates wtih goobox
[09:01] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, it is not
[09:01] <mebaran151> oh
[09:01] <mebaran151> I love goobox
[09:01] <mebaran151> best cdripper out there
[09:02] <taz> HappyFool, i just need answers about if i need to use "add user" in smbpasswd or just "enable user" ...
[09:02] <mebaran151> soundjuicer is SLOW ......
[09:02] <Burgundavia> you can drag and drop between muine and serpentine though
[09:02] <mebaran151> serpentine?
[09:02] <highvoltage> goobox?
[09:02] <highvoltage> perhaps i should try that...
[09:02] <mebaran151> why is soundjuicer so slow anyway?
[09:02] <HappyFool> taz: i think you need to "add" them; samba keeps a separate list of users -- however, all samba users must be system users. this is rather annoying, imo -- samba used to have an entirely separate user list
[09:03] <taz> HappyFool, yeah.. the best would be if samba had a separate user database.. :)
[09:03] <audiohelp> hoary. asrock k7vt6 mobo. lsmod, lspci, lsof /dev/dsp and amixer outputs here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/318681 . works in win. why does audio not work in ubuntu??
[09:03] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, no idea
[09:03] <taz> HappyFool, its good that you can set different passwords though
[09:03] <murrayc> So, on breezy, apt-get is complaining that openoffice.org2-core has unmet dependencies. How can I tell apt-get to just remove openoffice2.org2 and stop caring about it?
[09:03] <Burgundavia> mebaran151, if you dig it apart, you canrobably find out
[09:04] <hybrid_goth> murrayc: breezy working over there?
[09:04] <LuNaTiK^GuY> mplayer just wont work :(
[09:04] <murrayc> No, X is broken too.
[09:04] <taz> HappyFool, now it works.. i just did a "smbpasswd -L -a myuser"  .. (Add a new user and then set a password for it..)
[09:05] <HappyFool> taz: ok -- is that user a 'system' user ? (i.e., exists in /etc/passwd)
[09:05] <doonz> anyone installed Cedega before?
[09:05] <audiohelp> need audio help! asrock k7vt6 mobo. lsmod, lspci, lsof /dev/dsp and amixer outputs here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/318681. almsamixer sais everything is on. works in win. why does audio not work in ubuntu-hoary??
[09:06] <everett_> How can I use the automatically generated config file 2.6.10-5-38 in /boot/ to compile a 2.6.10 kernel in /usr/src/ ?
[09:06] <taz> HappyFool, yes, it was.. it was not possible to add a user not existing in the system... (virtual)
[09:06] <taz> HappyFool, if i try i would get this: Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user test. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?
[09:07] <HappyFool> everett_: i think you copy it to /usr/src/linux-<whatever>/.config -- i.e., it needs to be called .config, and be in root of the linux source tree
[09:07] <HappyFool> everett_: take a look here:
[09:07] <HappyFool> !kernelhowto
[09:07] <ubotu> I guess kernelhowto is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto
[09:07] <fabrice_> hi
[09:08] <everett_> hrm
[09:08] <BollocksMacenzie> Does anyone know how to change the programs associated to certain file extensions? Totem keeps insisting on playing Real Player files despite having Real Player 10 and no rm plugin for totem...
[09:08] <HappyFool> everett_: building a new kernel is not trivial, afaik -- you need to make an initrd image, update grub, etc. That page should tell you more.
[09:08] <LuNaTiK^GuY> when starting mplayer i get: New_face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. PLease supply the text font file
[09:09] <Seveas> LuNaTiK^GuY, that's normal
[09:09] <everett_> Happy, I've done it before, I would just like to use the same config so I don't have to go through prompts for an hour and deal with ugly error messages on boot up. :D
[09:09] <Seveas> HappyFool, make-kpkg --initrd does that for you :)
[09:09] <LuNaTiK^GuY> getting errors is normal?
[09:09] <nophix> LuNaTiK^GuY: just select a font in preferences
[09:09] <Seveas> LuNaTiK^GuY, it's not an error...
[09:09] <Seveas> it's a warning...
[09:10] <LuNaTiK^GuY> where are the fonts stored?
[09:10] <nophix>  /usr/share/fonts/
[09:10] <audiohelp> need audio help! asrock k7vt6 mobo. lsmod, lspci, lsof /dev/dsp and amixer outputs here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/318681. almsamixer sais everything is on. works in win. why does audio not work in ubuntu-hoary??2~
[09:11] <audiohelp> plz
[09:11] <audiohelp> =)
[09:11] <LuNaTiK^GuY> 10ks :)
[09:11] <BollocksMacenzie> Has anyone found out how to change associated file types for programs?
[09:11] <Seveas> still no luck with it thomas___/audiohelp :)
[09:11] <Seveas> ?
[09:12] <audiohelp> Seveas: nope :((
[09:12] <audiohelp> seems like my little brother's meant to be stuck with windows.. :/
[09:12] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i cant play a dvd from my second drive....why?
[09:12] <Seveas> BollocksMacenzie, rightclick on a file, select properties, tab 'open with'
[09:13] <Centaur> I installed a printer and I could do a test page but I don't see the printer in openoffice when I want to print, what do I do?
[09:14] <Kamzi> try going to tools, printer admin
[09:14] <everett_> Seveas: Ever feel like saying "because ubuntu hates you" in response to questions? :D
[09:14] <Kamzi> yea
[09:15] <blacktooth> does ubuntu see the printer?
[09:15] <BollocksMacenzie> Seveas: cheers... Hadn't found that! Was searching through Real Player properties ands totem properties! Does it change the association for all the files of the same type?
[09:15] <Kamzi> anyone got any suggestions for 56k modems unbuntu will like ?!
[09:15] <hyphenated> Kamzi: external serial ones ;-)
[09:15] <blacktooth> non software ones!!!
[09:15] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i really want to...but can't see myself switching to Linux full-time.....i never manage to get anything to work :(
[09:15] <Seveas> BollocksMacenzie, yes
[09:16] <BollocksMacenzie> Seveas: Cheers!
[09:16] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm so stupid i think lol
[09:16] <everett_> LuNaTiK^GuY, it takes time to understand and get the hang of. It took me years to get comfortable using.
[09:16] <rose_> oh my god
[09:16] <Kamzi> hyphenated: i was really looking for internal, though trial and error has shown me that an external would probably easier
[09:16] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but i dont have years :(
[09:16] <everett_> :(
[09:16] <everett_> Cancer?
[09:16] <LuNaTiK^GuY> dont get me wrong
[09:16] <everett_> :D
[09:16] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Ubuntu is the best i've tried
[09:16] <LuNaTiK^GuY> from all the rest
[09:17] <Kamzi> hyphenated: i suppose us robotics would be ideal ?
[09:17] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i went further with it than i did with others
[09:17] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but not as half as far as with Windows
[09:17] <blacktooth> back to windows then?
[09:17] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i admit i've been using Win for YEARSSSS
[09:17] <everett_> pfft.
[09:17] <Centaur> blacktooth: ubuntu knows the printer is there
[09:17] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i dont want to go back
[09:17] <kutucape> what's the meaning firefox is broken?
[09:17] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i want to learn this!! :S
[09:17] <nophix> LuNaTiK^GuY: why?
[09:17] <everett_> What is your current problem?
[09:17] <klaym> lunatik^guy: just out of curiosity, what's your age?
[09:17] <wing`> anyone can help me with my problem? ->>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=267217#post267217
[09:17] <LuNaTiK^GuY> 19
[09:17] <klaym> ok
[09:18] <ep> right, no time left
[09:18] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i need it for my Univ course!!
[09:18] <everett_> I tell ya he's got cancer. :D
[09:18] <LuNaTiK^GuY> rite here and now :)
[09:18] <hyphenated> Kamzi: I had zero problems and zero inconvenience when i had to use a serial modem. internal ones, on the other hand.. gosh, it never ended
[09:18] <blacktooth> does open office know the printer is there!!!?
[09:18] <Seveas> everett_, language....
[09:18] <Seveas> LuNaTiK^GuY, go to tldp.org and read some beginners docs
[09:18] <Centaur> blacktooth: No it doesn't, I just checked to see that firefox knows it's there
[09:18] <Seveas> LuNaTiK^GuY, browsing through the wiki helps too
[09:18] <everett_> errr, language? o.O Whjat did I say?
[09:19] <Seveas> your last line...
[09:19] <blacktooth> does firefox know it is there!!!!
[09:19] <ompaul> everett_, be nice to people that is all :) it is a lot easier
[09:19] <blacktooth> a question or a fact?
[09:19] <DekaPink> Let's hear it for accidentally uninstalling xchat. xD
[09:19] <Centaur> blacktooth: Yes, firefox can see the printer, openoffice does not
[09:19] <klaym> lunatik^guy: it's as simple as this: you download (or order!) a Ubuntu install cd, you stick it in and push the enter key in order to install it.
[09:19] <Se7h> question: isnt OSS enable by default?
[09:19] <everett_> Oh. Well it was meant as a friendly joke. :/
[09:19] <Seveas> Se7h, oss is ddeprecated....
[09:20] <Seveas> everett_, sorry, i see it now
[09:20] <Seveas> everett_, i missed a part
[09:20] <wing`> anyone can help me with my problem? ->>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=267217#post267217
[09:20] <klaym> and then you take a guide and install all programs you need, codecs etc
[09:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> klaym....i did that.....first thing that happened was Nvidia got loaded badly...so i had to go in console...edit the xorg.conf etc etc
[09:20] <everett_> Lun, if it is a university course, it should be very basic.
[09:20] <Se7h> Seveas ye, but i need it
[09:20] <blacktooth> open office is the culprit...if ubuntu sees it and office does not...pretty obvious!!!
[09:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> In windows....u just log on...and install the driver from cd and its all fine :S
[09:20] <kutucape> wing`, it's firewall problem
[09:20] <everett_> Unless itis an advanced class.
[09:20] <Seveas> Se7h, why..?
[09:20] <Se7h> Seveas pymedia
[09:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> that's the problem lol
[09:21] <wing`> kutucape, the only firewall im using is firestarter to share the connection
[09:21] <Centaur> blacktooth: yes, I understand that but I was wondering how I can fix that
[09:21] <wing`> kutucape, and its configured to allow 192.168.0.254 (my other pc ip)
[09:21] <kutucape> can you access the internet from winXP?
[09:21] <blacktooth> more people here more qualified than i am....sorry!!!???
[09:21] <wing`> i can ping IP address
[09:21] <Se7h> Seveas so, is it?
[09:21] <wing`> and thats all
[09:21] <everett_> Lu, linux isn't completely developed yet, I started using it six years ago, ubuntu was a god send compared to what I was used to. As you use linux, it will become more friendly. :D
[09:22] <blacktooth> been struggling with ubuntu all day at college!!!
[09:22] <Seveas> Se7h, it's not enabled by default afaik. and esd hogs /dev/dsp anyway
[09:22] <wing`> kutucape, ?
[09:22] <ep> linux is a programmers dream actually stuff may be harder to learn but its easier to use!   We forget that we have had a lot of investment time-wise learning windows as well.
[09:22] <LuNaTiK^GuY> everett_, thats ok....i can appreciate the open source effort being put in it...just when will Linux be developed completely?
[09:22] <LuNaTiK^GuY> :)
[09:22] <kutucape> so try to use nslookup on windows command prompt
[09:22] <kutucape> ex: nslookup google.com
[09:22] <bur[n] er> LuNaTiK^GuY: hopefully it never dies!
[09:22] <bur[n] er> :)
[09:23] <Centaur> blacktooth: Okay, thanks though
[09:23] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i dont want it to die
[09:23] <bur[n] er> complete
[09:23] <klaym> lunatic^guy: I solve my Ubuntu problems with these manners: 1. type in Google/Ubuntuforums search the error I get, it might be found and fixed on a forum already, 2. come ask here, or 3. post a new thread about it on ubuntuforums
[09:23] <bur[n] er> sounds dead ;)
[09:23] <everett_> When project looking glass is ported. :D
[09:23] <Se7h> Seveas come again?
[09:23] <Se7h> (im noob on cfgs
[09:23] <blacktooth> no swet sorry i could not help.
[09:23] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i want it to be a 100% desktop contender that kick windows's ass...i know u say it DOES ALREADY....but for a noob it doesnt ;)
[09:23] <LuNaTiK^GuY> lol
[09:23] <Kamzi> lol
[09:23] <wing`> kutucape, it says DNS Timed out, but it finds a IP Address..
[09:23] <bur[n] er> LuNaTiK^GuY: use it for awhile, find bugs, patch them, make ubuntu better :)
[09:23] <Kamzi> linux wasn't made for noobs
[09:24] <Seveas> Se7h, in short: try to find a replacement for pymedia because using oss will give you problems
[09:24] <MrGardenHoseMan> linux runs on a FAT filesystem right?
[09:24] <everett_> Linux will never be fully developed, linux will develop the user, grasshopper.
[09:24] <Seveas> MrGardenHoseMan, no
[09:24] <LuNaTiK^GuY> bur[n] er, how do u expect me to patch it?????
[09:24] <Seveas> MrGardenHoseMan, linux runs on GOOD filesystems, no fat crap
[09:24] <Se7h> Seveas problem is, cant find any
[09:24] <bur[n] er> MrGardenHoseMan: it can mount and read/write fat32, but not be installed on it
[09:24] <Hyuma> hi to all
[09:24] <blacktooth> lol!!!
[09:24] <Seveas> Se7h, what is pymedia?
[09:24] <blacktooth> lo
[09:24] <Hyuma> how to use md5sums guys?
[09:24] <bur[n] er> LuNaTiK^GuY: ok, we'll start small, just use it for a bit ;)
[09:24] <Hyuma> I've launch
[09:24] <Hyuma> md5sum.exe file.md5 file.iso
[09:24] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Kamzi, so ur telling me to go back to Win? :(
[09:24] <MrGardenHoseMan> ahh as long as it can write to it
[09:24] <LuNaTiK^GuY> (sniff)
[09:24] <wing`> kutucape, ?
[09:24] <bur[n] er> pymedia == python & gstreamer?
[09:24] <Se7h> Seveas a python module for audio/video encoding/decoding
[09:25] <nophix> bur[n] er: of course it can, but that's just stupid :)
[09:25] <kutucape> wing`, tell me your /etc/resolv.conf content
[09:25] <Seveas> Se7h, pymusique ..?
[09:25] <Se7h> o.0
[09:25] <bur[n] er> MrGardenHoseMan: i rebuttle, you may install it on fat32, but it's silly ;)
[09:25] <kutucape> resolv.conf must point to some dns server out there
[09:25] <wing`> search domain.invalid
[09:25] <wing`> nameserver 192.168.254.254
[09:25] <wing`> 192.168.254.254 is my router ip address
[09:25] <bur[n] er> windows can read & write ext2/3 just fine though
[09:26] <Seveas> bur[n] er, you cannot install ubuntu on fat...
[09:26] <klaym> Lunatik^guy: do as I said and be specific about the error you get (write it on a piece of paper if you can't paste it right away on a pastebin) and ask about it on forums or here, and you will solve all problems. it asks for a lot of patience
[09:26] <qt2> this is very strange
[09:26] <qt2> my other ubuntu box...
[09:26] <blacktooth> with 3rd party software!!!
[09:26] <kutucape> try to add another dns server ip's
[09:26] <qt2> like... evrything randomly crashes.
[09:26] <qt2> EVERYTHING
[09:26] <Se7h> Seveas thats for itunes
[09:26] <qt2> even x drops out and reboots sometimes.
[09:26] <ompaul> wing`, what is the default route on the windows box? (ug I said the w word :))
[09:26] <Seveas> Se7h, ah...
[09:26] <bur[n] er> well, i was right then... regardless if you can or not, fat sucks
[09:26] <qt2> stops just short of the kernel.
[09:26] <Seveas> qt2, which version of Ubuntu?
[09:26] <cikilin> how i check if i have a router/firewall and then if i have port ...UDP open?
[09:26] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ok....i want a PowerDVD substitute...i was told it mplayer...yet i cant get my 2nd dvd drive to work on it
[09:26] <qt2> Seveas, Hoary.
[09:27] <wing`> ompaul, sry, but how do i know that?
[09:27] <bur[n] er> ompaul: different on different networks
[09:27] <mebaran151> oh
[09:27] <mebaran151> LuNaTiK^GuY, easy to fix
[09:27] <mebaran151> you just have to specify your dvd-device
[09:27] <LuNaTiK^GuY> mebaran151, i'm all ears :)
[09:27] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how?
[09:27] <mebaran151> -dvd-device /dev/hdb
[09:27] <wing`> kutucape, i changed it to an DNS server ip, i need to restart something now?
[09:27] <mebaran151> at the cli
[09:27] <ompaul> bur[n] er, it is something I remember having to set in  a place I was working eariler this year
[09:27] <bur[n] er> ompaul: could be 192.168.1.1 192.168.0.1 192.168.2.1 10.0.0.1 or some other set
[09:27] <mebaran151> then you just do
[09:27] <cikilin> can anybody use azureus?
[09:28] <bur[n] er> cikilin: sure
[09:28] <kutucape> nope, just type on your console (linux) say: dig google.com
[09:28] <blacktooth> yes!
[09:28] <cikilin> so how i check if i have a router/firewall and then if i have port ...UDP open?
[09:28] <HappyFool> tritium: do you have any extensions?
[09:28] <mebaran151> tritium, hint download
[09:28] <ompaul> bur[n] er, no if I understand the issue wing` is routing via the linux machine, wing` am I right?
[09:28] <mebaran151> mine wont download anyting any more
[09:28] <kutucape> then try on winXP box with nslookup command
[09:28] <wing`> yea
[09:28] <wing`> my Router modem is connect to eth0 here in linux
[09:28] <cikilin> burn[n] er?
[09:28] <wing`> and eth1 is connected to windows
[09:28] <kutucape> did you set the gateway on winxp box to linux box ip?
[09:28] <everett_> Weird.
[09:28] <tritium> HappyFool, no
[09:28] <LuNaTiK^GuY> mebaran151, -dvd-device /dev/hdb??? why hdb????
[09:29] <wing`> its all set by DHCP (Auto in windows)
[09:29] <wing`> and its working
[09:29] <tritium> mebaran151, it's an ubuntu package, not a download
[09:29] <HappyFool> tritium: there's a thread about this on ubuntuforums -- it looks like ppl without problems generally don't have extensions installed
[09:29] <wing`> expect the dns
[09:29] <everett_> Apt-get says a it can't find a package I tell it to install but it's there in the directory.
[09:29] <cikilin> burn[n] er can u tell me how to check?
[09:29] <mebaran151> LuNaTiK^GuY, because I am guesing hda is your first drive
[09:29] <tritium> HappyFool, ah, thanks.  Not that it's a problem to not have problems ;)
[09:29] <wing`> only the dns is not working
[09:29] <mebaran151> or else it might hdc or hdd
[09:29] <mebaran151> do you have other ide drives installed with scsi
[09:29] <kutucape> wing`, yes, try to make static ip for winXP box
[09:29] <LuNaTiK^GuY> mebaran151, its my DVD drive....dvd-rom/cd-rom
[09:29] <mebaran151> or IDE ATA
[09:29] <mebaran151> yeah
[09:29] <mebaran151> but what else is in yoru computer
[09:30] <mebaran151> harddisk
[09:30] <LuNaTiK^GuY> one hard drive with lots of partitions
[09:30] <wing`> ok, but what ip and gateway?
[09:30] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and 2 optical drives
[09:30] <cikilin> how i check if i have a router/firewall and then if i have port ...UDP open on azureus pls
[09:30] <LuNaTiK^GuY> a dvd rewriter
[09:30] <Kamzi> any one here a uk ubuntu user ?
[09:30] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and a dvd rom
[09:30] <blacktooth> yea...for what it is worth!
[09:31] <wing`> kutucape,  what ip and gateway do i put there?
[09:31] <mebaran151> LuNaTiK^GuY, what kind of harddrive
[09:31] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i did /dev/cdrom1....and it seems to be reading it...but i get no picture...and cpu is on 100% lOAD!!!
[09:31] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ATA-133 hard drive
[09:32] <mebaran151> ok
[09:32] <mebaran151> it is probably hdc
[09:32] <mebaran151> hda is the harddrive
[09:32] <mebaran151> hdb is probably the second drive
[09:32] <mebaran151> (your first optical)
[09:32] <mebaran151> and your third drive second optical should be hdc
[09:32] <Seveas> mebaran151, depends completely on the wiring
[09:32] <mebaran151> yeah
[09:32] <mebaran151> I am guessing he didnt build it himself
[09:32] <mebaran151> though
[09:32] <mebaran151> and most places set it up as such
[09:32] <Seveas> primary master = hda primary slave = hdb secondary master = hdc seecondary slave = hdd
[09:32] <HappyFool> hmm - anyone know how i get '-rootwin' to work in mplayer?
[09:33] <ray_> what do you  guys use for playing mp3's?
[09:33] <mebaran151> mplayer for EVERYTHING
[09:33] <Seveas> beep-media-player
[09:33] <mebaran151> yeah beep media player is nice
[09:33] <bina> ray_ xmms
[09:33] <blacktooth> wmp10....lol!!!
[09:33] <Seveas>  /kick blacktooth
[09:33] <LuNaTiK^GuY> mebaran151,  hdc wont work
[09:33] <Seveas> :)
[09:33] <ray_> beep media is like the same thing as xmms right?
[09:33] <blacktooth> sarcasm...lol!!!!!
[09:34] <Seveas> ray_, it's a gtk2 port (thus better lookig_ port of xmms
[09:34] <LuNaTiK^GuY> cdrom1 got my drive spinning....but my CPU fired up to 100% and mplayer just gave me a black screen
[09:34] <anatole> wmp10? where?
[09:34] <ray_> Seveas, is it in universe?
[09:34] <Seveas> ray_, yes
[09:34] <DekaPink> Is there any easy way to uninstall all the stuff kde needed to install when I got it with apt-get? :3
[09:34] <ray_> Seveas, thanks
[09:34] <Rockret> hello all
[09:34] <Seveas> and there is a nice Ubuntu skin on http://ubuntu-nl.org/files/4Humans.tgz
[09:35] <mebaran151> LuNaTiK^GuY, what is cdrom1
[09:35] <highvoltage> DekaPink: apt-get remove stuff
[09:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> cdrom1 i tihnk is my second dvd-rom
[09:35] <mebaran151> you passed /dev/cdrom1
[09:35] <DekaPink> highvoltage: I know that much... Just... that's alot of stuff to remove, I was hoping there was a way to do it all at once.
[09:35] <mebaran151> did you pass it as dvd-device
[09:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yes i did
[09:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yes
[09:35] <mebaran151> let me do a quick test
[09:36] <mebaran151> using my Cowboy Bebop dvd I just got
[09:36] <LuNaTiK^GuY> tyt
[09:36] <ray_> oooo much nicer than xmms.....ist there more skins?
[09:36] <mebaran151> ray_, you can dll them .. but they arent pkged ... yet
[09:37] <qt2> Seveas, any ideas?
[09:37] <Seveas> qt2,  i think your memory has gone bad
[09:37] <ray_> mebaran151, you dont know where offhand do you?
[09:37] <Seveas> run memtest86 (from the boot menu)
[09:38] <mebaran151> not really
[09:38] <mebaran151> hmm
[09:38] <everett_> Okay, I'm compiling my 2.6 kernel with the same .config that was in boot using make. What is the next step? make install?
[09:38] <mebaran151> doesnt' mplayer work with AC3?
[09:38] <Seveas> you can use xmms skins on beep...
[09:38] <ray_> mebaran151, dont worry i will find them
[09:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> mebaran151, did it work?
[09:39] <mebaran151> yeha it opened
[09:39] <tritium> everett_, I'd encourage you to build a kernel .deb package with the "make-kpkg" tool after installing the package "kernel-package"
[09:40] <everett_> well I'm already running make, can I run make-kpkg after I'ved maked the /usr/src/linux ?
[09:40] <bartek> please help how instal ati driver in the ubuntu
[09:40] <LuNaTiK^GuY> mebaran151, so wot can i do?
[09:41] <mebaran151> hmm works on mine
[09:41] <mebaran151> 0 percent cpu usage
[09:41] <mebaran151> did you compile mplayer yourself
[09:41] <LuNaTiK^GuY> no
[09:41] <mebaran151> it is usually better to do it that way
[09:41] <HappyFool> !fglrx
[09:41] <mebaran151> do it that way
[09:41] <ubotu> well, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:42] <mebaran151> so you can use FLGRX
[09:42] <qt2> Seveas, how long should i let this run fo?
[09:42] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i miss good old PowerDVD for these reasons lol
[09:42] <HappyFool> bartek: read the binaryhowto page ubotu posted
[09:42] <Seveas> qt2, at least an hour
[09:42] <qt2> alrighty.
[09:43] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how can i uninstall mplayer?
[09:43] <hybrid_goth> apt-get remove mplayer
[09:43] <hybrid_goth> LuNaTiK^GuY: but sudo it
[09:43] <klaym> lunatik^guy: use synaptic to remove programs
[09:43] <tritium> and use the full package name
[09:44] <mebaran151> has anyone written a DTS decoder for mplayer yet?
[09:44] <hybrid_goth> dts?
[09:45] <hybrid_goth> tritium: srry  i would say mplayer blah but it is mplayer-g4 here and idk the x86 equal
[09:45] <tritium> hybrid_goth, no worries at all, buddy
[09:45] <mebaran151> hybrid_goth, mplayer-386 I think
[09:45] <mebaran151> or mplayer 686
[09:45] <stian__> how do i extract .tar.bz2?
[09:45] <hybrid_goth> ah ty
[09:45] <mebaran151> tar xjvf
[09:46] <ray_> rock lobster!
[09:46] <hybrid_goth> mebaran151: darnit beat me to the tar question =P
[09:46] <Rockret> does anyone knows if ubuntu have support (driver hotplug) to webcam creative go plus ?
[09:46] <ray_> stian__, file roller
[09:46] <surfdue> im a frosted weat cake
[09:46] <surfdue> oh sorry wront channel
[09:46] <londonboi2k3> Hi guys, im trying to connect to my linux box from windows with smb but it keeps asking me for a password! Anyone here got exp with samba would like some help please ;)
[09:47] <Rockret> what version of gnome that came with ubuntu 5.04?
[09:47] <ray_> 2.10 i think
[09:47] <Triffid_Hunter> londonboi2k3: it'll ask for a password unless you set the security to user, and add some anonymous shares
[09:47] <kbrooks> Rockret: 2.10
[09:47] <taromaru> hiya
[09:47] <Rockret> kbrooks, thanks
[09:47] <Seveas> londonboi2k3, use smbpasswd to set one (on the ubuntu box)
[09:47] <hybrid_goth> londonboi2k3: do you want to connect from or to the linux box
[09:47] <surfdue> Cchow do u copy in xchat?
[09:47] <ray_> is there a newer version than 2.10
[09:47] <taromaru> select and ctrl+c
[09:47] <londonboi2k3> Seveas thanks
[09:48] <Rockret> 2.12 ?
[09:48] <londonboi2k3> hybrid_goth from windows
[09:48] <hybrid_goth> surfdue: highlight and ctrl c
[09:48] <brummie> need help, got no sound.
[09:48] <mm23> Hi: I have a problem with perl. For some reason, I can't build ANY modules with perl (I apt-getted it..) because the Build module does not come with perl
[09:48] <taromaru> does somebody succesfully configured advancemame with svgalib in ubuntu?
[09:48] <surfdue> i like pie
[09:48] <surfdue> ;|
[09:48] <Rockret> what is big diference bewteen debian 3.1 and ubuntu 5.04 ?
[09:48] <ray_> brummie, ok.....i know what u have to do
[09:48] <surfdue> is tehre  aprogram for ubuntu
[09:48] <mm23> which is odd, because every other distro I have ever used has always had the build module come with Perl as default, along with a lot of others
[09:48] <Rockret> more friendly ?
[09:48] <_andrea> hey its me again on KDE :)
[09:48] <taromaru> brummie you dont have sound or you can only listen to one sound source?
[09:48] <hybrid_goth> Rockret: debian is newer
[09:48] <mm23> I don't know why I don't have it, nor do I know how to get it
[09:48] <brummie> no sound
[09:48] <LuNaTiK^GuY> me again :)
[09:49] <londonboi2k3> with smbpassd i get Failed to find entry for user aaron
[09:49] <brummie> first time user btw
[09:49] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'll think i'll keep on kubutnu :)
[09:49] <Belutz> is there already an update for firefox and thunderbird?
[09:49] <Seveas> londonboi2k3, smb users must be system users...
[09:49] <kbrooks> surfdue: for what?
[09:49] <LuNaTiK^GuY> more windows like for a noob like me ;)
[09:49] <ray_> brummie, u need the newer version of alsa i bet
[09:49] <surfdue> um 4 speak reconization
[09:49] <surfdue> does anyone here like windows?
[09:49] <kbrooks> surfdue: why?
[09:49] <brummie> the harware is not new
[09:49] <surfdue> im just wondering
[09:49] <londonboi2k3> hmm, i am a little lost now :(
[09:49] <taromaru> take a look at the minislack project wiki, there you can see howto set up sound manually
[09:50] <ray_> brummie, what soundcard u got?
[09:50] <ray_> i dont like windows
[09:50] <mm23> has anyone else had this problem with perl or know how to fix it? For some reason, I can't build ANY modules with perl (I apt-getted it..) because the Module::Build module does not come with perl from apt-get
[09:50] <taromaru> man alsaconf?
[09:50] <surfdue> does anyone here like windows?
[09:50] <brummie> cmi media 5.1 thing but showing as via 8233a
[09:50] <surfdue> answer me!!! :(
[09:50] <mm23> does anyone know what package I need to apt-get or what?
[09:50] <londonboi2k3> Seveas, can you help me do this from the command line if possible as im on my windows box, and ssh'd in to my linux box
[09:50] <ray_> I ANSWERED U
[09:50] <kbrooks> surfdue: i dont like windows
[09:50] <surfdue> u all are evil
[09:50] <tritium> surfdue, please don't demand like that
[09:50] <ray_> brummie, are you listening to me
[09:51] <brummie> yes :D
[09:51] <kbrooks> ray_: prefix with nick next time pls
[09:51] <ray_> kbrooks, what?
[09:51] <everett_> surf, please come back when you are grown up.
[09:51] <surfdue> ray_,  kbrooks is allitle insane
[09:51] <surfdue> if u know what i mean k
[09:51] <kbrooks> surfdue: i'm not
[09:51] <ray_> surfdue, u like windows?
[09:52] <blacktooth> everybody likes windows...don't they?
[09:52] <mm23> so nobody knows why Ubuntu's perl doesn't ship with Module::Build so nothing, not even cpan can build any modules?
[09:52] <kbrooks> ray_: use: nick: text
[09:52] <mm23> or know where I can get it?
[09:52] <highvoltage> surfdue: making trouble in #ubuntu now ;)
[09:52] <londonboi2k3> any help at all guys with samba?
[09:52] <ray_> kbrooks, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:52] <kbrooks> omigosh
[09:52] <tritium> ray_, don't talk that way please
[09:52] <hybrid_goth> ray: calm down plz
[09:52] <Seveas> ray_, language.....
[09:53] <hybrid_goth> !code of conduct
[09:53] <ubotu> hybrid_goth: I give up, what is it?
[09:53] <kbrooks> !coc
[09:53] <ubotu> I heard coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[09:53] <hybrid_goth> !coc
[09:53] <ray_> tell kbrooks faggot to calmdown
[09:53] <mm23> I guess you guys are too focused on your internal little fights to help anyone :o
[09:53] <teprrr> uhh, are you serious that there's no aclocal in ubuntu?
[09:53] <hybrid_goth> mm23: we dont know everything
[09:53] <blacktooth> alcohol!!!!!????
[09:53] <hybrid_goth> !hybrid_goth
[09:53] <ubotu> well, hybrid_goth is a wonderfull person deserving of great riches and money
[09:53] <keikoz> what is better ? ext3 or reiserfs bye your opinions ?
[09:54] <kbrooks> mm23: we dont know everything
[09:54] <desrt> teprrr; aclocal is part of autoconf
[09:54] <kbrooks> !kbrooks
[09:54] <ubotu> kbrooks: Wish i knew
[09:54] <taromaru> so...
[09:54] <HappyFool> teprrr: what's aclocal again?
[09:54] <hybrid_goth> keikoz: i like ext3
[09:54] <taromaru> some help setting up svgalib properly?
[09:54] <teprrr> desrt, hmm. oh.
[09:54] <highvoltage> keikoz: if you're generally unsure, use ext3
[09:54] <desrt> teprrr; install the corresponding autoconf version
[09:54] <kbrooks> taromaru: ask
[09:54] <teprrr> desrt, I don't have it and I have autoconf installed..
[09:54] <keikoz> but the ext3 needs an initrd on boot using grub
[09:54] <everett_> keikoz, I prefer reiserfs, it has distinct performance gains when dealing with smaller files.
[09:54] <kbrooks> teprrr: build-essential
[09:54] <desrt> teprrr; you probably have something like aclocal-1.9 or -1.4 or something
[09:55] <everett_> ext3 is also old. :D
[09:55] <kbrooks> everett_: *discards*
[09:55] <keikoz> i'd like a fs that doesnt need initrd
[09:55] <hybrid_goth> keikoz: ext3 is more n00b friendly
[09:55] <teprrr> HappyFool, don't know actually. it has something to do with kde's build system :p
[09:55] <blacktooth> but it works.
[09:55] <kbrooks> everett_: no trolling please
[09:55] <desrt> teprrr; you can use update-alternatives to symlink one of them to 'aclocal'
[09:55] <teprrr> desrt, ah. okay
[09:55] <keikoz> ok, thx for giving your opinions :o)
[09:55] <everett_> trollng? How so? I was just stating my preference and why it was indeed my preference.
[09:56] <hybrid_goth> keikoz: best of luck
[09:56] <creasy> hello, can anyone help me with instalation of ubuntu ? :(
[09:56] <taromaru> which package installs svgalib?
[09:56] <ed1t> creasy, wat part?
[09:56] <everett_> creasy, what is the problem?
[09:56] <hybrid_goth> creasy: ask dont ask to ask
[09:56] <taromaru> I read svgalib required to link manually each application to svgalib
[09:56] <creasy> :) i have problem with my network
[09:56] <taromaru> but I obviously dont know how to do that
[09:56] <ed1t> creasy, wat is it?
[09:56] <kbrooks> taromaru: you dont have to
[09:56] <tritium> taromaru, "apt-cache search svgalib" will help you find it
[09:57] <taromaru> i already did that
[09:57] <creasy> instalation cant see my network card
[09:57] <HappyFool> taromaru: you possibly need libsvga1-dev
[09:57] <kbrooks> taromaru: install svgalib
[09:57] <teprrr> desrt, hmm. it's not available from ubuntu repos though?
[09:57] <everett_> creasy, try using the command lspci and tell me what you see.
[09:57] <creasy> and becouse of that it cant continue to instal basic system
[09:58] <DPadclear> How do I build a quick .deb file if I have nss-mdns_0.5-1.diff.gz  nss-mdns_0.5-1.dsc  nss-mdns_0.5.orig.tar.gz
[09:58] <desrt> teprrr; yes.  it is.
[09:58] <teprrr> desrt, ah. forget. installing automake worked :p
[09:58] <keikoz> do is it possible to change the fs of a partition, leaving there the datas ?
[09:58] <musicman2059> Keikoz: AFAIK no
[09:58] <keikoz> i guessed the answer :p
[09:58] <creasy> everett_ .. im real noob to all of this but i realy want to learn, but just dont know how :/
[09:58] <desrt> teprrr; automake depends on autoconf :)
[09:58] <musicman2059> to change the fs would require a format :P
[09:59] <blacktooth> will destroy all data!!!
[09:59] <everett_> creasy, your problem isn't caused by your lack of experince, it is probably an issue with your network card. What type is it?
[09:59] <keikoz> i did hope some strange soft
[09:59] <everett_> Do you know?
[09:59] <creasy> one sec.
[09:59] <azambuja> hi
[09:59] <hybrid_goth> but you could partition with diff fs then get files and delete first partition
[09:59] <teprrr> desrt, ya, thanks a lot :)
[09:59] <azambuja> where can i found the guide to play encrypted dvds?
[09:59] <keikoz> hybrid_goth that's what i will make i guess
[10:00] <keikoz> and is possible to transfer an entire linux systeme from a partition to another (changing its fstab) without pbl ?
[10:00] <HappyFool> !restricted
[10:00] <keikoz> (i know, i ask a lot)
[10:00] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:00] <LuNaTiK^GuY> my second dvd drive is /dev/hdd :) :) :) :) its workinggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
[10:00] <HappyFool> azambuja: go to the url that ubotu just mentioned
[10:00] <mebaran151> LuNaTiK^GuY, good
[10:00] <ailleantsian> I was wondering if someone here cau help me with my sound drivers for ubuntu
[10:00] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm switchin to KDE
[10:01] <LuNaTiK^GuY> konquror is so much better at giving details :)
[10:01] <azambuja> ubotu: thanks
[10:01] <ubotu> bitte, azambuja
[10:01] <azambuja> HappyFool: thanks
[10:01] <LuNaTiK^GuY> now Ubuntu is kicking ass :)
[10:01] <blacktooth> it's workinggggggggggg....lol!!!!
[10:01] <musicman2059> I'm switchin to XFCE once I get libgtk2-devel
[10:01] <musicman2059> w00t
[10:01] <creasy> everett_ can we go on priv ?
[10:01] <blacktooth> nice!!!
[10:01] <Razor-X> !java
[10:01] <ubotu> I guess java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[10:02] <MrGardenHoseMan> what do i use to display .nfo files?
[10:02] <Razor-X> MrGardenHoseMan: a text editor
[10:02] <azambuja> it tells me to install libdvdcss2, which i cant find in synaptic
[10:03] <blacktooth> non-free!????
[10:03] <HappyFool> azambuja: it also tells you you need to add extra repositories, at the top somewhere
[10:03] <azambuja> HappyFool: they are added
[10:03] <azambuja> HappyFool: multiverse universe?
[10:03] <azambuja> HappyFool: all of them
[10:03] <HappyFool> azambuja: no, backports hoary-extras, i think
[10:04] <flipy> Hi!
[10:04] <flipy> After setting up the apache and finally php, I'm trying to configure drupal
[10:04] <azambuja> HappyFool: lets try
[10:04] <[loonz] > what's the problem with firefox?
[10:04] <flipy> I've done the testphp.php to try phpinfo()
[10:05] <flipy> but drupal won't execute, the web browser tries to download the file instead of running it
[10:05] <racho> hi
[10:05] <[loonz] > when are going to have the ubuntu users the last version of Firefox?
[10:05] <azambuja> HappyFool: NOT_AUTENTICATED but lets go :-)
[10:05] <HappyFool> azambuja: heh
[10:05] <everett_> creasy here isn't getting the driver for his EtherExpressPro/100 (eepro100, original Becker driver) loaded on install time, any ideas?
[10:06] <HappyFool> azambuja: i actually used marillat's libdvdcss2 before that got all out of sync with ubuntu, but i think backport's ought to work
[10:07] <azambuja> HappyFool: totem is auto-playing it
[10:07] <azambuja> HappyFool: lets see
[10:08] <HappyFool> azambuja: fwiw i use xine; i think bog-standard totem seems to not be recommended. i think ppl use totem-xine, gmplayer or vlc, usually
[10:08] <ailleantsian> can anyone recommend where i can go to get help on my sound drivers
[10:10] <nvidiarox> hi, how do i install nvidia drivers?
[10:10] <Super_BQ> any Samba users that managed to get it work right with Firestarter ?
[10:10] <nvidiarox> i just installed ubuntbu, how do i setup nvidia with it?
[10:10] <Razor-X> someone _seriously_ needs to fork the Azureus project
[10:10] <tritium> nvidiarox, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:10] <Burgundavia> nvidiarox, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:10] <robotgeek> sorry to ask again, but is FFox 1.0.6 also broken? I upgraded it on my Windows boxen in the lab just today
[10:10] <robotgeek> though it has nothing to do with ubuntu :)
[10:11] <Super_BQ> despite how it says you can allowed SMB port 137-138 under the incoming policies
[10:11] <Razor-X> after decentralization, it takes more than my 256 MB of RAM can handle
[10:11] <poningru> nvidiarox: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/Official_nVidia
[10:11] <poningru> or what they said
[10:11] <poningru> anyone know why totem is used as the default player?
[10:11] <poningru> its sucks so much
[10:11] <DekaPink> Oh, there we go... apt-get remove kde*
[10:11] <desrt> poningru; actually, it doesn't
[10:11] <poningru> why not vlc or something?
[10:11] <wezzer-> use mplayer
[10:11] <desrt> poningru; apt-get install totem-xine
[10:11] <Super_BQ> I know it's firestarter causing the block because samba works perfect when I disable the firewall - so I have the shares done right
[10:12] <poningru> desrt: I know
[10:12] <liquidten> poningru: because totem supports many many more file types than vlc
[10:12] <Dr_Melectaus> Im haveing a few problems gnome bittorrent, when i open it the choose torrent to open appears, but once i choose a torrent the window dissapears and nothing else happens. Ive tried reinstalling it but not sure if i done it righ
[10:12] <poningru> liquidten: please give example
[10:12] <jasoncohen> what's wrong with firefox 1.0.6? As long as you upgrade your extensions it's fine? are there certain extensions causing problems. i have 1.0.6 with extended preferences 1.2.7.1
[10:12] <Dr_Melectaus> **correctly
[10:12] <nvidiarox> should i use offical nvidia drivers or the unbutbu ones?
[10:12] <everett_> ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[10:12] <jasoncohen> and is ubuntu's firefox having the same issues as 1.0.6?
[10:12] <samu> i never managed to play anything in totem
[10:12] <poningru> and which cannot be solved by adding those libs
[10:12] <everett_> I am never compiling using a .config from a binary file again....
[10:12] <everett_> I'm being drowned in useless modules
[10:13] <poningru> I bet you half of these people do not use totem
[10:13] <tritium> nvidiarox, the ubuntu ones please
[10:13] <nvidiarox> k
[10:13] <poningru> how about making totem-xine or vlc the default
[10:13] <Dr_Melectaus> Im haveing a few problems gnome bittorrent, when i open it the choose torrent to open appears, but once i choose a torrent the window dissapears and nothing else happens. Ive tried reinstalling it but not sure if i done it correctly
[10:13] <everett_> xine/mplayer all te way
[10:13] <Jeandre> The Ubuntu update manager reports "W: GPG error"s "signatures were invalid: BADSIG". Am I doing something wrong, or is there a problem with security.ubuntu.com ?
[10:13] <djp> poningru: i do!
[10:14] <poningru> djp: ?
[10:14] <everett_> Dr, try opening it in a terminal to see if there is error output.
[10:14] <Dr_Melectaus> thanks everett_
[10:14] <djp> poningru: use totem!
[10:14] <Super_BQ> any Samba users that managed to get it work right with Firestarter (firewall)
[10:14] <poningru> djp: I am not getting into a zealot wars
[10:15] <poningru> all I am saying is that compared to other players totem seems choppy
[10:15] <jasoncohen> poningru, there's discussion of making totem-xine the default in breezy
[10:15] <jasoncohen> i think it would be a very good idea
[10:15] <poningru> oh ok
[10:15] <robotgeek> poningru, true :)
[10:15] <liquidten> mplayer doesn't support DVD menus so i rarely use that, but xine does, but xine takes too long to start up where totem-xine will startup in 2 seconds.   Totem-gstreamer just sucks
[10:15] <Dr_Melectaus>  everett_  melectaus@ubuntu:~$ open gnome bittorrent
[10:15] <Dr_Melectaus> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[10:15] <Dr_Melectaus> Could not get a file descriptor referring to the console
[10:15] <HappyFool> Super_BQ: have you tried using netstat -lnpt and netstat -lnpu to find out which ports samba is listening on?
[10:15] <everett_> O.o
[10:16] <anacron> o.O
[10:16] <everett_> not a (&*^(@&% clue what that is about.
[10:16] <samu> totem sucks
[10:16] <HappyFool> Super_BQ: according to /etc/services, you'll need at least 137, 138 and 139 open (tcp and udp)
[10:16] <Dr_Melectaus> to run it in terminal, it is open <file>
[10:16] <poningru> Dr_Melectaus: what do you open a torrent file in?
[10:16] <djp> once gstreamer comes on i think things will improve. that is why i think it is the default player and not the xine version. gstreamer will be a good asset in the future
[10:16] <poningru> what browser I mean
[10:16] <HappyFool> Super_BQ: and 445 (tcp and udp)
[10:16] <Dr_Melectaus> poningru, i open it with gnome bitttorrent
[10:16] <liquidten> gstreamer is too cpu intensive for me
[10:16] <Super_BQ> HappyFool: how do I enable port 445?
[10:16] <Dr_Melectaus> - 1t
[10:17] <HappyFool> Super_BQ: um. doesn't firestarter let you open specific ports?
[10:17] <Super_BQ> HappyFool: firewall only allows me to like add (policies) for SMB default ports
[10:17] <poningru> no I mean what executable do you open?
[10:17] <poningru> do you open the -bin file or the sh file?
[10:17] <everett_> drivers/isdn/capi/capidrv.c:2108:10: warning: #warning FIXME: maybe a race condition the card should be removed here from global list /kkeil, hahaha, I love kernel output. :D
[10:17] <Super_BQ> HappyFool: only shows port 137-139 that I can allow
[10:17] <Super_BQ> HappyFool: incoming (LAN)
[10:18] <HappyFool> Super_BQ: i don't know firestarter, or firewalls generally, sorry
[10:18] <Dr_Melectaus> poing, ill just check
[10:18] <HappyFool> Super_BQ: isn't there a 'custom' option somewhere?
[10:18] <Super_BQ> HappyFool: when I try to connect - the events show the UDP port 137 is blocked
[10:18] <everett_> Super, try emailing / contacting the company/developer too.
[10:18] <everett_> It should be in their documents.
[10:18] <Dr_Melectaus> poningru,  .torrent
[10:18] <jasoncohen> Super_BQ, what's the problem. i use firestarter
[10:18] <djp> Dr_Melectaus: do you normally open it via firefox? i.e., click on a torrent link and then use the default app to download it?
[10:18] <Super_BQ> i've googled and apparently there's tons of people with the same problem but no real simple fix
[10:18] <HappyFool> Super_BQ: so allow 137? or are you?
[10:19] <Super_BQ> jasoncohen: how did you configure for samba?
[10:19] <icebreak> hi
[10:19] <HappyFool> Super_BQ: maybe you need to set the firewall manually using iptables -- i don't know much about that though, sorry
[10:19] <jasoncohen> Super_BQ, you need to open port 137-139 on the samba server
[10:19] <Dr_Melectaus> djp, i go to apps>interweb>gnome bittorrent
[10:19] <icebreak> i just installed ubuntu, and i work in refresh 60hz
[10:19] <Super_BQ> HappyFool: even when I right click on the block message to allow it - it still comes up with the same problem
[10:19] <icebreak> how can i turn it to 100 ?
[10:19] <icebreak> ?
[10:19] <HappyFool> Super_BQ: hmm. do you really need a firewall? what other services are you running?
[10:19] <Super_BQ> jasoncohen: but the samba server works fine when I stop the firestarter firewall
[10:19] <jasoncohen> Super_BQ, go to policy, right click, choose add rule, then select name and choose samba
[10:20] <jasoncohen> that should show 137-139 445
[10:20] <Super_BQ> HappyFool: ssh, ftp, http seem to work fine
[10:20] <jasoncohen> hit add and then hit apply
[10:20] <jasoncohen> apply policy
[10:20] <jasoncohen> otherwise it won't take affect
[10:20] <djp> Dr_Melectaus: ok. reason i ask, is i always go via a torrent link and open it via firefox. unfortunately this no longer works with the latest security update for ff... :(
[10:20] <icebreak> can anybody help me with refresh rate?
[10:20] <Super_BQ> jasoncohen: OH so I just manuall ADD 445 ?
[10:20] <jdorse> man.. my firefox has suddenly started seg faulting today
[10:21] <jasoncohen> Super_BQ, no...445 is there
[10:21] <Dr_Melectaus> ok thanks dj28
[10:21] <Dr_Melectaus> djp
[10:21] <Dr_Melectaus> *^
[10:21] <Super_BQ> jasoncohen: when I add it only shows 137-139
[10:21] <jdorse> like usualy when I close a second tab
[10:21] <jasoncohen> Super_BQ, when you click on the drop down name menu and choose Samba (SMB) don't you see 137-139 445
[10:21] <liquidten> firefox is broken right now  i think now would actually be the perfect time to use the Deer Park Alpha 2 build
[10:21] <jasoncohen> Super_BQ, add 445
[10:21] <jasoncohen> then hit add and apply policy
[10:21] <everett_> OMFG WILL THIS KERNEL EVERFINISH COMPILING.
[10:21] <jasoncohen> Super_BQ, i'm using firestarter 1.0.3 from backports so it might be a bit different
[10:21] <kbrooks> everett_: calm
[10:21] <jdorse> can I revert back to the previous firefox?
[10:22] <everett_> At this rate I am going to miss SG-1.
[10:22] <icebreak> can anybody help me with installing nviia drivers?
[10:22] <everett_> That, will be not be acceptable.
[10:22] <jasoncohen> jdorse, upgrade your extensions or remove them
[10:22] <everett_> !nvidia
[10:22] <jasoncohen> extensions are causing the issue
[10:22] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:22] <kbrooks> everett_: it is not the end of the world
[10:22] <everett_> blasphemy.
[10:22] <jdorse> jasoncohen, I've had it do it without any extensions
[10:22] <jasoncohen> jdorse, tools > extensions > upgrade
[10:22] <everett_> ;D
[10:22] <jasoncohen> jdorse, really...
[10:22] <jdorse> there is no such button
[10:23] <jasoncohen> jdorse, are you using ubuntu's firefox or backports?
[10:23] <jdorse> ubuntu
[10:23] <djp> jdorse: yes you can revert
[10:23] <Super_BQ> jasoncohen: I only could add a separate entry of SMB with 445
[10:23] <jasoncohen> jdorse, do you hae any extensions there?
[10:23] <jasoncohen> Super_BQ, that's fine
[10:23] <icebreak> what is linux-restricted-modules and how do i install it?
[10:23] <jdorse> no, I totally wiped out my .mozilla dir
[10:23] <jasoncohen> just make sure you hit apply policy
[10:23] <mtraker> hi
[10:23] <tritium> icebreak, the easiest way is to install linux-686, or whichever architecture you have.
[10:23] <nuky> hey all.. :)
[10:23] <jdorse> I did rm -rfv ~/.mozilla
[10:24] <jasoncohen> jdorse, you should have backed it up
[10:24] <tritium> That will pull in linux-restricted-modules as a dependency
[10:24] <Super_BQ> jasoncohen: you know the funny thing is.. I had it working before I rebooted
[10:24] <jasoncohen> jdorse, mv .mozilla .mozilla.backup
[10:24] <jdorse> I did.
[10:24] <jdorse> copied then removed
[10:24] <jdorse> I've been slowly trying to move things back
[10:24] <tritium> icebreak, they provide ati, nvidia kernel modules for example (among others)
[10:24] <djp> jdorse: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51049&highlight=firefox
[10:24] <Tifa> icebreak: linux-restricted-modules is a collection of kernel modules (mostly drivers I think) which have licenses which make them non-free in some way
[10:24] <icebreak> i seem to have it installed
[10:24] <jasoncohen> jdorse, ok then- try the official 1.0.6 build
[10:24] <icebreak> but i cant get glx to work
[10:24] <icebreak> i get direct render: no
[10:24] <jasoncohen> jdorse, it's easy to install
[10:24] <nuky> can i ask a really quick question? how do i search for files in ubuntu?
[10:25] <mtraker> I want to install pyvoice in ubuntu, It's possible?
[10:25] <icebreak> the FAQ didnt work
[10:25] <icebreak> i did nvidia-glx enable
[10:25] <jasoncohen> jdorse, instructions are here - http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1.0.6.html
[10:25] <icebreak> and yet it dosnt work
[10:25] <tritium> icebreak, you also need fglrx stuff installed.  Did you follow the BinaryDriverHowto?
[10:25] <nuky> like i wanna know where perl is.. so i did "find / perl" but that bring up lots of crap
[10:25] <jasoncohen> jdorse, download here  - http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
[10:25] <icebreak> yeah i did
[10:25] <icebreak> and no it dosnt work
[10:25] <jdorse> jasoncohen, I think I'll just downgrade to ubuntu5.3
[10:25] <HappyFool> mtraker: possibly; what libraries does it require?
[10:25] <jasoncohen> jdorse, i wouldn't
[10:25] <pavilionubuntu> hi, i have a big problem.... i need ubuntu in my new notebook HP Pavilion6062 (amd 64bits), when im starting install ubuntu (original cd, 64bits), after the menu, screen is down and the system stoped. i think that is the resolution, can i change this? what can i do?!!!! THXXXX
[10:25] <jdorse> it was working fine.
[10:25] <jasoncohen> jdorse, then you'll have no security updates since 1.0.2
[10:26] <tritium> Fiercetactics, please don't do that
[10:26] <icebreak> what could be the problem ?
[10:26] <jasoncohen> jdorse, this won't overwrite firefox
[10:26] <slask3n> jdorse: what is ubuntu5.3 ? :P
[10:26] <jasoncohen> it'll keep your ubuntu version
[10:26] <jdorse> jasoncohen, I don't want to run one from my home dir.
[10:26] <jdorse> that's nasty
[10:26] <tritium> icebreak, perhaps you followed it incorrectly or your card is not supported?  that's a tried and true wiki page.  Many have followed it successfully.
[10:26] <jasoncohen> jdorse, you can install in /opt
[10:26] <bojan> hi! i am looking for an expirienced anjuta user, for some help
[10:26] <Rawplayer> is there some official ubuuntu ppc channel!
[10:26] <icebreak> i have the gefocre 6600gt
[10:26] <nuky> anyone? i've tried lots of things... like find / (perl) find . -perl and even tried a few egrep ones but non of them seemed to work
[10:26] <icebreak> i would think it is supported
[10:26] <jdorse> jasoncohen, I'd rather not make an end run around the package manager.
[10:27] <jasoncohen> jdorse, nevermind- if you backup to 5.3 you'll have security updates to 1.0.4
[10:27] <pavilionubuntu> hi!!!:S
[10:27] <jasoncohen> jdorse, whatever you want- i have both installed w/o problems. there are absolutely no conflicts since i installed it to my home dir as a user
[10:27] <jasoncohen> feels faster too
[10:28] <msieradzki> really firefox is broken?
[10:28] <jdorse> jdorse, but I'll forget to upgrade when the next set of security packages comes along...
[10:28] <jasoncohen> jdorse, wait- i'm sorry 5.3 isn't available any more
[10:28] <jasoncohen> msieradzki, for some
[10:28] <msieradzki> mozilla-firefox is broken and firefox works
[10:28] <bojan> anjuta throws always an error message when i try to create a c++ project
[10:28] <jasoncohen> jdorse, only the original hoary package
[10:28] <msieradzki> i have been upgrading from ubuntu hoary, and i got of course mozilla-firefox
[10:28] <msieradzki> when i switched to firefox package it began to work
[10:28] <jasoncohen> msieradzki, do you have backports?
[10:28] <msieradzki> firefox (1.0.6)
[10:28] <msieradzki> no
[10:29] <jasoncohen> well...1.0.6 is only in backports
[10:29] <msieradzki> i'm using breezy, so what for?
[10:29] <jasoncohen> oh, ok
[10:29] <jdorse> 1.0.6 is in backports?
[10:29] <jasoncohen> in breezy, the package is firefox
[10:29] <jdorse> hrm
[10:29] <sturmkind> hello
[10:29] <jasoncohen> mozilla-firefox is just a dummy package for upgrade
[10:29] <pavilionubuntu> hi.....
[10:29] <mtraker> HappyFool,  the message when i run pyvoiceit's this: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module pytspc: This Python has API version 1012, module pytspc has version 1011.
[10:30] <HappyFool> mtraker: so you probably need to compile pyvoiceit for ubuntu
[10:30] <msieradzki> in breezy it isn't automagically upgrading to "firefox" package, i have thinked about reporting bug but as i've said it is from mozilla-firefox package
[10:30] <bojan> HappyFool: anjuta throws always an error message when i try to create a c++ project
[10:30] <slask3n> I get this error when try running a mediafile "Totem could not play 'file:///home/slask3n/Kai Tracid - Too many times.mp3'. - Could not open resource for writing." anyone knows why?
[10:30] <HappyFool> bojan: i'm afraid i'm not an anjuta user -- was that message intended for someone else?
[10:31] <sturmkind> hello, is it possible that much of the ubuntu hoary cd's are buggy? i get about 300 and want to give it to some lugs and two universities but vom 30 i test only one works ;-(
[10:31] <stian__> slask3n: tried xmms?
[10:31] <bojan> HappyFool: excuse me, i thought that you also use anjuta
[10:31] <Le> Bonsoir all, i got a problem with my laptop and a screensaver from i d'ont know where any more because i 've shut down (or i beleive i have done it) If i don't type or move my mouse, a blackscreen appears. Well is there any one who can help me please ?
[10:31] <liquidten> sturmkind:  Yes it is.  About 25 out of the thirty they sent me were 100% bad.
[10:31] <HappyFool> mtraker: that should not be too difficult; the only possibly hard part is finding out what libraries pyvoiceit needs installed
[10:32] <jdorse> ubuntu should really fix the package in hoary.
[10:32] <thingfish> misfit_toy: you watching?
[10:32] <sturmkind> liquidten: urks ;-( thats hard
[10:32] <liquidten> sturmkind:  they failed md5sum tests and on each install they failed trying to install bsd-utils(or something like that) the other 5 worked fine though
[10:32] <tritium> jdorse, it's being worked on
[10:32] <Super_BQ> jasoncohen: sorry no dice :(
[10:32] <jdorse> tritium, until then, they should pull the updated broken one :P
[10:32] <Super_BQ> jasoncohen: do I have to make changes to the 'outbound traffic policy' ?
[10:33] <sturmkind> liquidten: the 30 i test won't start on bootup only one works fine. i have to test much more cds tomorrow
[10:33] <tritium> jdorse, you're free to uninstall it
[10:33] <jdorse> I just did, but less tech savvy users won't be able to do that.
[10:34] <Super_BQ> jasoncohen: still comes up with port 137 source 10.0.0.3 (me) UDP SMB in the Events
[10:34] <sturmkind> so i have to play some pen and paper ;-) cheers
[10:34] <slask3n> stian__: no, but it seems like its the sound-output device or something thats fucking..
[10:34] <djp> jdorse: it is due to the security updates that it is left. as tritium says though you can down grade. i'm just sticking with it and waiting for the fix...
[10:35] <stian__> slask3n: yes I think so. Check if any other audio programs work.
[10:35] <slask3n> stian__: i have tested musicplayer etc however
[10:35] <wing`> is there anyone who can help me sharing internet to windows?
[10:35] <wing`> ubuntu > win
[10:35] <stian__> slask3n: hmm.. oeky, sorry cant help you.
[10:35] <wing`> please
[10:35] <tritium> djp, excellent point
[10:35] <slask3n> stian__: ok, thanks for the try at least :)
[10:36] <stian__> :)
[10:37] <wing`> please i need some help sharing internet connection with an windows box
[10:37] <djp> jdorse: it's pretty secure for me at the moment... i can't even click on a link to a media file in order to open it! nothing happens! but i just workaround it by right clicking and downloading to hard disk that way.
[10:37] <djp> ;)
[10:37] <edi> wow, ubuntu is great!!!
[10:38] <xliu> what is WindowMaker
[10:38] <slask3n> I get this error when try running a mediafile "Totem could not play 'file:///home/slask3n/Kai Tracid - Too many times.mp3'. - Could not open resource for writing." anyone knows why? I have tested in other players like musicplayer too, but get the same message "Could not open resource for writing".. seems like its the sounddevice or something beyond my knowledge..i have just reformatted the system, but i got it a couple times before to, bu
[10:38] <slask3n> t then i could just reboot and it was ok. its not like that now, i have rebooted 3 times and it still doesnt work.. .s
[10:38] <thingfish> does ubuntu use defoma?
[10:38] <edi> xliu: is a window manager, next step look...
[10:38] <edi> thingfish, i think so
[10:38] <thingfish> thanks, edi.
[10:39] <wing`> man, no one knows about lan here?
[10:39] <wing`> i need some help in a easy problem
[10:39] <Dr_Melectaus> Is ubuntu not meant to play DVD's ?
[10:40] <edi> slask3n, try if you can copy these files
[10:40] <kbrooks> Dr_Melectaus: it is.
[10:40] <kbrooks> Dr_Melectaus: er, yes and no
[10:40] <edi> Dr_Melectaus, yes, of course
[10:40] <Dr_Melectaus> i put schindlers list in. didnt work, then tried a few others and got squat
[10:40] <thingfish> many distros need extra stuff in order to play DVDs, Dr_Melectaus.
[10:40] <edi> Dr_Melectaus, try installing xine
[10:40] <kbrooks> Dr_Melectaus: do you have a cd or dvd drive?
[10:40] <Dr_Melectaus> For some reason my machine doesnt want to play DVD's
[10:40] <Dr_Melectaus> yes i have a cd/dvd drive lol
[10:40] <portahex> libdvdcss
[10:41] <edi> Dr_Melectaus, try invoking the file player from a console
[10:41] <kbrooks> Dr_Melectaus: NO i mean either
[10:41] <qt2> so... i have no idea what the hell is wrong :(
[10:41] <qt2> like... everything randomly crashes.
[10:41] <qt2> even x drops out and reboots sometimes.
[10:41] <slask3n> edi: the mediafiles? all the permission are correct, and i have run them several times before.. as said i think its the sound-device or something..
[10:41] <qt2> crashing stops just short of the kernel.
[10:41] <HappyFool> qt2: you still running that memory test?
[10:41] <qt2> and it's not my memory.
[10:41] <qt2> HappyFool, yep, no errors.
[10:41] <edi> slask3n, can you launch alsaplayer?
[10:41] <Dr_Melectaus> kbrooks, sorry?
[10:42] <HappyFool> qt2: hmm. are you running any closed-source (nvidia/ati/winmodem) drivers?
[10:42] <edi> qt2, can see logs under /var/log/...
[10:42] <kbrooks> Dr_Melectaus: do you have a cd OR dvd drive? one or the other, not both
[10:42] <qt2> HappyFool, none at all.
[10:42] <edi> qt2, messages and syslog are good starting points
[10:42] <poningru> Stop it
[10:42] <poningru> this is a safe zone
[10:42] <Dr_Melectaus> i have both
[10:42] <poningru> sorry wrong window
[10:42] <Dr_Melectaus> its a combo
[10:42] <kbrooks> Dr_Melectaus: just checking
[10:42] <slask3n> edi: how do i do that? i tried alsaplayer now so i wouldnt look like a fool :P but i got "bash: alsaplayer: command not found"
[10:42] <kbrooks> Dr_Melectaus: i cant play dvds :(
[10:42] <portahex> how is this complex? you need decss
[10:43] <portahex> gah
[10:43] <Dr_Melectaus> kbrooks, the drive ive got is a dvd/cd drive
[10:43] <edi> slask3n, i think you need alsa (sound drivers)
[10:43] <occy> any eta on firefox getting fixed?
[10:43] <portahex> try downloading and dpkg -i'ing ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.8-0.0_i386.deb
[10:43] <Dr_Melectaus> kbrooks, me neither by the looks of things
[10:43] <djp> Dr_Melectaus: regarding dvd's, no to a point. for some info if you are interested read the following http://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html
[10:43] <HappyFool> qt2: sorry, i don't know. it sounds like faulty hardware. have you looked in the logs as edi suggested?
[10:43] <kbrooks> portahex: Ni,
[10:43] <kbrooks> No*
[10:43] <thingfish> occy - there's someone else who used to be a fedora person.
[10:43] <slask3n> edi: arent alsa installed from the beginning? it always has before..
[10:43] <occy> thingfish, heh
[10:43] <qt2> HappyFool, saw nothing of signifigance before, i'll check again though.
[10:43] <thingfish> hi occy
[10:43] <slask3n> edi: but ill check now
[10:43] <occy> thingfish, :)
[10:43] <kbrooks> portahex: DO NOT direct people to use marillat.
[10:44] <everett_> Anybody bored? Wanna get in a zealot debate? Okay, I'll start, monolithic vs micro kernels.
[10:44] <edi> slask3n, yes, please, look for it in synaptic
[10:44] <HappyFool> qt2: maybe you should run 'badblocks' on your hard-drive, i guess from the livecd
[10:44] <portahex> kbrooks, feel free to suggest a more suitable repo. or answer their problem.
[10:44] <guerby> hi, any openvpn user out there? I'd like to assign a fixed IP to each client, it looks like it's done with the "ipp.txt" file but I cannot find the file format in the doc, any idea?
[10:44] <Dr_Melectaus> are there any other torrent clients other than bittorrent
[10:44] <thingfish> yeah, I mean even debian has to go to marillat.
[10:44] <thingfish> for libdvdcss
[10:44] <kbrooks> portahex: marillat is a debian repo and is therefore incompatible with ubuntu
[10:45] <thingfish> ah
[10:45] <Burgundavia> portahex, hoary-extras for the backports has the same stuff, compiled for ubuntu
[10:45] <kbrooks> portahex: just because ubuntu is based on debian doesnt mean they look or taste the same, etc
[10:45] <edi> guerby: in config files: "remote xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"
[10:45] <Dr_Melectaus> are there any other torrent clients other than bittorrent
[10:45] <thingfish> maybe it's in universe or multiverse then.
[10:45] <edi> Dr_Melectaus, try azureus, it's good a lot
[10:45] <portahex> odd, that exact package installed for me a few seconds ago
[10:45] <HappyFool> Dr_Melectaus: i think i used bittornado for a while
[10:46] <kbrooks> portahex: irrevelant
[10:46] <slask3n> edi: i got alsa-base, gstreamer0.8-alsa, alsa-utils, and libpt-plugin-alsa installed.. and im installing alsaplayer-alsa now
[10:46] <portahex> kbrooks, so suggest something better.
[10:46] <kbrooks> portahex: *newbies*
[10:46] <Burgundavia> portahex, hoary-extras has the same packages, compiled for hoary
[10:46] <slask3n> edi: or should i install it? i never been using it before
[10:46] <edi> slask3n, you may have alsamixer in /usr/bin
[10:47] <edi> slask3n, don't you?
[10:47] <Burgundavia> portahex, marilliat is compiled against a newer libc than hoary and thus causes all kinds of problems
[10:47] <everett_> You know what would be nice? An OSS encryption scheme, end users use it for free, all the big media giants have to pay liscensing fees. :D
[10:47] <kbrooks> everett_: gnupg
[10:47] <Dr_Melectaus> for christ sake, im installing programs but there not there
[10:48] <La_PaRCa> wow
[10:48] <edi> Dr_Melectaus, what programs?
[10:48] <slask3n> edi: no i havent, i have installed ubuntu many times, and just installed the gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3-support, and then everything has been working fine.. but yes, alsamixer is in /usr/bin/
[10:48] <La_PaRCa> I updated my firefox and now the flash plugin is killing it everytime
[10:48] <everett_> not there as in not in the /usb/bin or not in the gnome menu?
[10:48] <Dr_Melectaus> well, i just tried bittornado
[10:48] <portahex> fine. and nobody thought to actually answer the problem people had, then? fuck it, i really have less than zero to gain from this channel
[10:48] <edi> slask3n, try executing it
[10:48] <Dr_Melectaus> it installed. But i tried running it thru terminal, and tried thru apps> run prog
[10:48] <kbrooks> sheesh
[10:48] <flipy> does anyone have drupal installed?
[10:49] <Dr_Melectaus> looked in apps>interweb>
[10:49] <edi> Dr_Melectaus, and what is the error you get?
[10:49] <everett_> portahex, how about you realize how many people have problems,combined with the fact only a few experinced users are available for answers, and consider that most problems can be fixed by reading the forums/documentation.
[10:49] <Dr_Melectaus> edi, try t open the torrent and it says so and so cant be displayed
[10:49] <slask3n> edi: AlsaMixer output: "Card: Camera; Chip: USB Mixer; View: Playback; Item: Auto Gain Control"
[10:50] <edi> pexi, spain?
[10:50] <pexi> si
[10:50] <edi> Dr_Melectaus, from browser?
[10:50] <flipy> how can I change the password for root in mysql'
[10:50] <flipy> ?
[10:50] <edi> slask3n, you have a camera and it has been put first in device list
[10:50] <Dr_Melectaus> melectaus@ubuntu:~$ open bittornado
[10:50] <Dr_Melectaus> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[10:50] <Dr_Melectaus> Could not get a file descriptor referring to the console
[10:50] <edi> slask3n, try alsamixer -c 1
[10:50] <terje> hello, how do I get sshd to start when the system boots?
[10:51] <qt2> HappyFool,  i'm seeing lots of stack traces and stuff in /var/log/messages... <.<;
[10:51] <slask3n> edi: how do i fix that? the camera is my microphone..
[10:51] <resiak> everett_: The point is that this channel is utterly useless at actually answering questions. portahex may have not been recommending the Official Ubuntu Way, but why didn't those people who stabbed him for it just answer the original question?
[10:51] <edi> Dr_Melectaus, save your file, open a console and type "bittornado <filename>"
[10:51] <lydon> terje: if you use apt-get install sshd, then it should start automatically anyway
[10:51] <djp> Dr_Melectaus: why don't you right click and save as, the torrent file you wish to download in firefox. then browse to the .toorent file you have downloaded and double click it. it should open the default gnome-bittorrent program
[10:51] <edi> slask3n, have you tried "alsamixer -c 1"?
[10:51] <Burgundavia> resiak, no it is not and I clearly answered why not to use marilliat and provided a different option
[10:51] <terje> Thanks Lydon, I've already installed it.
[10:52] <terje> Do I not need to get the init scripts configured or does the package do that?
[10:52] <lydon> terje: the package should do that automatically
[10:52] <terje> thanks
[10:52] <Dr_Melectaus> djp the file is on my desktop
[10:52] <everett_> resiak, what was his original question before he threw the hissy fit?
[10:52] <slask3n> edi: yes im in there now, it says "Card: VIA 8235; Chip: Realtek ALC650E; View: Playback; Item: Master" this time..
[10:52] <Dr_Melectaus> it doesnt work when i open it
[10:52] <lydon> no problem
[10:53] <resiak> everett_: portahex was _answering_ someone
[10:53] <edi> slask3n, you have to invert the order of your modules
[10:53] <Dr_Melectaus> Couldn't display "/home/melectaus/Desktop/OST-...8Retail%29-2004-MUSiQ.torrent".
[10:53] <djp> Dr_Melectaus: right click on the file and see if gnome-bittorrent is set as the default app to open the .torrent file
[10:53] <resiak> Burgundavia: You told portahex. Why didn't you answer the original question that he answered (wrongly) if you know the answer and have time to type it out?
[10:53] <slask3n> edi: how do i do that? i am a semi-n00b, and a real n00b when it comes to this..
[10:53] <lydon> has anyone installed baghira (I think that's spelled right) on Ubuntu?
[10:53] <guerby> edi, thanks (I assume I have to do this on the server only and "remote" is the client name let's try...
[10:54] <Dr_Melectaus> gnome bittorrent isnt there
[10:54] <La_PaRCa> Um... the flash plugin is blocking my firefox when I try to close a page that has any flash in it
[10:54] <Dr_Melectaus> i tried totally removeing it, then reinstalling it
[10:54] <Burgundavia> resiak, I can in the middle of dispute. I only mentioned hoary-extras, because it provides marilliat for hoary
[10:54] <Dr_Melectaus> but it isnt appeating
[10:54] <edi> slask3n, i have been looking for a solution
[10:54] <Dr_Melectaus> appearing*
[10:54] <djp> Dr_Melectaus: if it isn't, use the open with other application... and search for gnome-bittorrent to open the file
[10:54] <resiak> Burgundavia: I'm well aware of that.
[10:54] <edi> slask3n, open /etc/modutils/alsa-base in a text editor, please
[10:54] <Dr_Melectaus> gnome-bittorrent isnt there
[10:54] <slask3n> edi: ok
[10:55] <pexi> Dr_Melectaus, you can use azureus
[10:55] <Burgundavia> resiak, the livdvdcss question?
[10:55] <edi> slask3n, go to the end of the file
[10:55] <resiak> Burgundavia: _Yes_.
[10:55] <Burgundavia> resiak, hoary-extras provides that
[10:55] <edi> slask3n, you will see lines that start with "options"
[10:55] <Dr_Melectaus> pexi, how do i download azureus
[10:55] <djp> Dr_Melectaus: be aware that azureus requires sun java
[10:55] <slask3n> edi: yes
[10:55] <Dr_Melectaus> ok
[10:55] <pexi> http://azureus.sf.net
[10:55] <resiak> Burgundavia: _I_ _KNOW_.
[10:55] <resiak> *gone*
[10:55] <edi> Dr_Melectaus, go to the download page (with browser), look for it in google
[10:55] <Burgundavia> resiak, ok
[10:56] <qt2> HappyFool, would you like me to post it up somewhere?
[10:56] <edi> slask3n, look for the id of your card "viaxxxxxxx"
[10:56] <djp> Dr_Melectaus: for your info... http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html
[10:56] <slask3n> edi: options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2 :: options snd-bt87x index=-2 :: options snd-intel8x0m index=-2 :: options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2
[10:56] <Dr_Melectaus> edi, cant i apt get it
[10:56] <mike_> how do I use a diff file to apply patches to source?
[10:56] <edi> slask3n, change it ...
[10:56] <qt2> Dr_Melectaus, http://azureus.sf.net/
[10:56] <HappyFool> qt2: your logs?
[10:56] <HappyFool> qt2: you seeing anything useful?
[10:56] <edi> slask3n, please, do a lsmod in a console
[10:56] <qt2> HappyFool, the message log is the only one with any thing about crages...
[10:57] <qt2> HappyFool, lots of stack traces and stuff...
[10:57] <slask3n> edi: should i reverse the order here? doing lsmod now..
[10:57] <Apophis> my cousin installed ubuntu today ubuntu , ubuntu could find his modem ;( what can we try ?
[10:57] <HappyFool> qt2: um. you can put it up on the pastebin, i guess, but i'm not sure i'll be able to help
[10:57] <HappyFool> !pastebin
[10:57] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[10:57] <edi> mike_, depends on the kind of diff, but may be something as "patch -p1 < file.diff" under the directory of the application
[10:57] <HappyFool> qt2: also, i'm sleepy and i want to go to bed soon ;)
[10:57] <azambuja> hi
[10:57] <Apophis> modem Best Data Fax modem
[10:58] <edi> slask3n, you have to tell me about the snd-card-xxxxx lines
[10:58] <azambuja> anyone could please help me with one annoying thing?
[10:58] <azambuja> i have configured the network properly and it works fine. but when i reboot it cant connect to the net. Then i do a network restart and everything is fine
[10:59] <azambuja> how can i fix this? what can it be?
[10:59] <loderunner> I've managed to royally screw my file ownerships
[10:59] <mike_> edi, how can I tell?
[10:59] <slask3n> edi: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/722
[10:59] <edi> slask3n, have i explained it correctly? my english is not much good
[10:59] <edi> slask3n, ok, lets see
[10:59] <taromaru> coudl somebody tell me a  command to Block a desktop?
[10:59] <slask3n> edi: i pasted it in pastebin.. your english is ok :)
[10:59] <taromaru> xlock or something else
[10:59] <edi> slask3n, tnx
[10:59] <mike_> edi, starts like this  diff -X ignore -Nru clean/wine/dlls/d3d8/basetexture.c patch/wine/dlls/d3d8/bas$--- clean/wine/dlls/d3d8/basetexture.c  2005-06-03 19:08:48.000000000 +0100
[10:59] <mike_> +++ patch/wine/dlls/d3d8/basetexture.c  2005-06-14 13:41:56.000000000 +0100
[10:59] <mike_> @@ -130,7 +130,7 @@
[10:59] <mike_>      return This->levels;
[10:59] <mike_>  }
[10:59] <slask3n> edi: where are you from?
[10:59] <loderunner> I need to find a way to change owners for everything in a dir, all subdirs, files and hidden files.  It's the hidden files that's the tricky part
[11:00] <mike_> sorry for spam people
[11:00] <edi> slask3n, spain
[11:00] <edi> :)
[11:00] <loderunner> I can't do chown -R .* because that affects, well, everything
[11:00] <taromaru> as me!
[11:00] <slask3n> edi: ok.. i want to go to spain now! its cold here in norway! :P hehe
[11:00] <loderunner> can anyone help me?
[11:00] <taromaru> norway is great
[11:00] <taromaru> sweden is so too
[11:00] <HappyFool> loderunner: maybe you can use 'find' in conjunction with chown
[11:01] <resiak> loderunner: chown * .[^.] *
[11:01] <slask3n> edi: did you get anything out of the lsmod?
[11:01] <resiak> loderunner: -R etc as well.
[11:01] <edi> slask3n, this is your snd card: snd_via82xx
[11:01] <resiak> loderunner: .[^.] * means "starts with a dot, then one non-dot character, then anything else.
[11:01] <slask3n> edi: that can be correct.. its a asus a7v8x and is using via chipset
[11:01] <loderunner> oh cool
[11:01] <loderunner> that's exactly what I need
[11:01] <loderunner> thnx a bunch
[11:02] <resiak> loderunner: Unless you have files that start with .. but aren't just ..
[11:02] <edi> slask3n, and this is the other driver: snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio
[11:02] <loderunner> I shouldn't have...
[11:02] <slask3n> edi: snd_usb_audio is the camera
[11:02] <slask3n> edi: thats almost ecverything i know :P
[11:03] <edi> slask3n, put it at the end of /etc/modutils/alsa-base:
[11:03] <HappyFool> resiak: not that it really matters, but that seems to not match the filename '...'
[11:03] <akk> Anyone know much about font rendering?
[11:03] <Apophis> my cousin installed ubuntu today ubuntu , ubuntu couldnt find his modem ;( what can we try ?
[11:03] <edi> slask3n, "options snd-via82xx index=1" and next line "options snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio index=2"
[11:03] <akk> I'm getting pixellated fonts in hoary in a lot of apps, trying to figure out how to fix them.
[11:04] <desrt> Apophis; is it a winmodem?
[11:04] <edi> slask3n, sorry: "options snd_usb_audio index=2"
[11:04] <slask3n> edi: should i remove the stuff thats there from before?
[11:04] <resiak> HappyFool: No, it doesn't. If you start files with .., it doesn't work. But most people don't, and it's easier than find . -print0 | xargs -0 chown +R badger:snake
[11:04] <edi> slask3n, not "snd_ac97_codec" (paste problem)
[11:04] <HappyFool> Apophis: have you been to the linmodem site? http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[11:04] <edi> slask3n, no, add it at the end of file
[11:04] <bina> anyone know of a way to reduce the delay in sound when using aRts in KDE?
[11:04] <resiak> HappyFool: And before you say "You don't need -print0 or -0", you do, if we're expecting stupidly-named files.
[11:05] <desrt> or http://www.linmodems.org/ even
[11:05] <mike_> what command do I type to apply a .diff as a patch?
[11:05] <edi> slask3n, then open a terminal and execute "update-modules"
[11:05] <everett_> bina, I always turn of arts in favor for alsa
[11:05] <resiak> mike_: patch -p0 < file.patch
[11:05] <everett_> *off
[11:05] <resiak> mike_: If that fails, try -p1
[11:05] <mike_> ok
[11:05] <bina> everett_: how do you do that?
[11:06] <nothingssomethin> can someone help me please
[11:06] <everett_> go to control panel, sound and check disable sound server
[11:06] <mike_> resiak, it's asking the file to patch
[11:06] <everett_> make sure alsa is installed.
[11:06] <everett_> then add alsa to your startup. Which I don't remember how to do right now.
[11:06] <edi> slask3n, have you done it?
[11:06] <slask3n> edi: i dot know its correct but now the file looks like this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/723
[11:06] <everett_> !alsa
[11:06] <ubotu> everett_: I haven't a clue
[11:07] <resiak> mike_: You cd into the directory of what you need to patch, then do patch -p0 (or -p1 if that fails) < /path/to/the/patch
[11:07] <Andares> Hi.
[11:07] <edi> slask3n, right
[11:07] <nothingssomethin> i hvae ubuntu and i just wanted to know how to let a windows computer over  a small network see 1or 2 folders from ubuntu and it can't see them
[11:07] <edi> slask3n, now do the "update-modules" in a console
[11:07] <mike_> resiak, cheers
[11:07] <Andares> In Ubuntu, I've noticed a serious quality degredation between music on XP and Ubuntu.
[11:07] <Andares> How can I correct this?
[11:07] <edi> Andares, degradation?
[11:07] <slask3n> edi: bash: update-module: command not found
[11:07] <Andares> edi
[11:08] <edi> slask3n, update-modules
[11:08] <slask3n> oops
[11:08] <Andares> Yes, it sounds like it's 32k sound.
[11:08] <Andares> But it's 128k
[11:08] <aru> all my Hank Williams Sr. sounds perfect :)
[11:08] <edi> Andares, what sound card do you have?
[11:08] <Andares> Strange.
[11:08] <Andares> edi, Crystal SoundFusion is all I know.
[11:08] <nothingssomethin> can anyone please help me or give me some pointers
[11:08] <slask3n> edi: still same problem "could not open resource for writing"
[11:08] <edi> Andares, could it be volume (pcm too high and master too low...), please, play with mixer
[11:08] <anatole> Andares: try and set the pcm sound to 75%
[11:09] <nothingssomethin> maybe sugest a ubuntu page
[11:09] <aru> it isn't rap music you are playing is it, because I head ubuntu doesn't support rap...
[11:09] <akk> Nobody else has seen this blocky font problem?
[11:09] <edi> slask3n, yes, you have to do "/etc/init.d/alsa restart" and it may work
[11:09] <Andares> edi, k.
[11:09] <nothingssomethin> how can it not soupport rap
[11:09] <nothingssomethin> really
[11:09] <slask3n> aru: for me you talking? :P no, its hard-trance/acid
[11:09] <akk> I've tried uncommenting subpixel and autohinting in /etc/fonts/local.conf, but neither one seems to make any difference.
[11:09] <aru> :)
[11:09] <edi> Andares, I have an audigy and have same problem when mixer is not correctly switched
[11:09] <bina> everett_: k thanks
[11:09] <nothingssomethin> aru are you sereous
[11:10] <aru> nothingssomethin: someone said it once as a joke, and I found it funny and decided to repeat it
[11:10] <nothingssomethin> i thought so
[11:10] <nothingssomethin> lol
[11:10] <resiak> ...
[11:10] <Andares> edi, COOL! :)
[11:10] <aru> but I do have a bridge for sale
[11:10] <Andares> Works now.
[11:10] <sun_> hi ubuntu is great i just installed it and i think its running about 10x faster than debian on inspiron 9300.  i was wondering if there's a way to install debian packages which are not in the ubuntu archive?  for example i *really* would like to use ion3 as the window manager.
[11:10] <slask3n> edi. no.. still the same
[11:10] <edi> Andares, right!
[11:11] <nothingssomethin> aru does ubuntu soupport windows fileshare both ways
[11:11] <edi> nothingssomethin, of course, within samba
[11:11] <Andares> nothingssomethin, yes.
[11:11] <aru> I'm not sure, I don't have windows
[11:11] <nothingssomethin> ubuntu comes with samba tho
[11:11] <everett_> sun_, are you familar with synaptic?
[11:11] <nothingssomethin> am i right
[11:11] <edi> slask3n, I can't imagine why does not work. let me see something
[11:11] <sun_> everett_ im used to just using aptitude on the command line, synaptic is a gui from what i understand?
[11:11] <slask3n> nothingssomethin: if its smb you mean so yes.. :) install smb and you can have a winshare on linux too
[11:12] <emX> sun_: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the 'universe' sections and you'll get access to most debian packages (including ion3, which I'm using right now)
[11:12] <everett_> Yes, it is installed in ubuntu  by default, very helpful.
[11:12] <emX> sun_: then 'apt-get update', followed by 'sudo apt-get install ion3'
[11:12] <robert_pectol> akk:   I noticed a somewhat "blocky" looking font in xmms but everything else looks good here.
[11:12] <everett_> go to system > administration, synaptic
[11:12] <emX> sun_: *'sudo apt-get update'
[11:12] <nothingssomethin> are there any goood smb pages i can read for begners
[11:12] <slask3n> edi: just tell me what you need to see, and ill copy the file/consoleoutput for you.. or you can command me to do things :) youre my master now! ;) hehe :p
[11:12] <sun_> emX thanks _a lot!_ im sure you appreciate why i really must have ion3 since you seem to be a fan also
[11:12] <nothingssomethin> beginers
[11:13] <emX> sun_: i'm very,very,very,very happy with it. ion3/screen makes my day.
[11:13] <akk> robert_pectol: I'm seeing it in all terminal clients, in fvwm titlebars, and in gtkfontsel ... basically everywhere except xchat.
[11:13] <edi> slask3n, can you reboot? problem can fix with a reboot
[11:13] <edi> slask3n, ill stay here until problem will fix
[11:13] <slask3n> edi: ok, ill be back soon :)
[11:13] <robert_pectol> akk:   That's odd!  I wish I knew what to tell you!
[11:14] <Apophis> my cousin installed ubuntu today ubuntu , ubuntu couldnt find his modem ;( what can we try ?
[11:14] <incompetence> hi
[11:14] <Apophis> make : BestData
[11:14] <Apophis> fax modem
[11:14] <edi> hi incompetence
[11:14] <everett_> Apophis, was your cousin in here befopre under the name creasy?
[11:15] <Apophis> plz help
[11:15] <catfox> hi all. can anyone point to somewhere with examples of ubuntu xorg.conf and fstab files? i don't have access to my hoary box to get them
[11:15] <incompetence> i messed up my dbus/hal/gnome-volume-manager i installed a self compiled 2.6.12.3 kernel
[11:15] <everett_> catfox, want me to just send you mine?
[11:15] <Apophis> evernett_ No
[11:15] <akk> robert_pectol: For instance, http://shallowsky.com/tmp/screenshot.png
[11:15] <Apophis> can u guys plz help me out.
[11:15] <akk> (that's with one of the msttcorefonts, but lots of native fonts display just as badly)
[11:15] <incompetence> g-v-m tells me now "Error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable"
[11:16] <catfox> everett_, sure thanks. i need an xorg.conf with a synaptics setup though
[11:16] <everett_> well for starters try using "cardname linux" at google.
[11:16] <Apophis> no linux drivers on bestdata.com ;(
[11:16] <everett_> errr, that I don't have.
[11:16] <chris24tnt> hi, everyone. i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, and i'm having a little trouble finding documentation on getting the wifi adapter working
[11:16] <chris24tnt> anyone here had any luck with that?
[11:16] <La_PaRCa> chris24tnt, what wi.fi adapter?
[11:17] <chris24tnt> lemme check
[11:17] <Apophis> evernett_ any suggestions?
[11:17] <akk> chris24tnt: I find I have to ifconfig my cardbus ethernet card by hand the first time, and then after that it gets configured correctly.
[11:17] <chris24tnt> 0000:02:06.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[11:17] <edi> catfox, see my xorg.conf in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/724
[11:18] <akk> chris24tnt: For some reason ifup doesn't configure it from /etc/network/interfaces the way it does on other debian distros, haven't figured out why (maybe a HAL thing?)
[11:18] <chris24tnt> hmmm
[11:18] <robert_pectol> akk:   Ouch!  Not to pretty!
[11:18] <catfox> edi, thanks i'll take a look
[11:18] <chris24tnt> but how do i turn it on?
[11:18] <everett_> catfox, you still want my xorg.conf?
[11:18] <edi> catfox, my fstab: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/725
[11:18] <chris24tnt> brb
[11:18] <akk> robert_pectol: Yeah, I'm trying to switch to ubuntu from sid for daily work, but I need to make screenshots for a book.
[11:19] <chris24tnt> back
[11:19] <slask3n> edi: I was forgetting somethinng.. i think it all started when i plugged in the usb web camera..
[11:19] <slask3n> edi: still have the same problem too.. should i unplug the webcam?
[11:19] <edi> slask3n, yes, of course
[11:19] <slask3n> edi: but, i need the webcam to use its microphone.. thats the problem..
[11:19] <chris24tnt> akk, i'm just not sure how to get it turned on, and i also want to link it to the wifi button on my laptop so that i can conveniently enable and disable it
[11:20] <slask3n> edi: but the mic doesnt work either though...
[11:20] <catfox> everett_, do you have synaptics section?
[11:20] <edi> slask3n, join #edi, please
[11:21] <akk> chris24tnt: Does dmesg make it look like the card is recognized? Does lsmod show a module that looks like it's for the card?
[11:22] <poningru> I had a question
[11:22] <poningru> is it possible to do the repositories as a torrent client thing?
[11:23] <Burgundavia> poningru, not within the current framework
[11:23] <edi> poningru, i have heard about some experiments with debian
[11:23] <edi> slask3n, ???
[11:23] <poningru> Burgundavia: well obviously but scrap the entire thing and start over new
[11:23] <poningru> edi: linky?
[11:24] <chillywilly> earl
[11:24] <poningru> to a discussion or something
[11:24] <edi> poningru, i do not remember
[11:24] <chillywilly> google is your freind
[11:25] <chris24tnt> akk, i'm looking around, but i can't seem to find any sign of a loaded module for my wifi adapter
[11:25] <chris24tnt> and i can't find it on dmesg either, although that's quite a jumble of stuff to glance through
[11:25] <everett_> catfox, no.
[11:25] <qt2> HappyFool, http://pastebin.com/318786
[11:25] <everett_> but if you google it I'm sure you will.
[11:25] <qt2> http://pastebin.com/318786 <- anyone happen to know what might be causing this sort of stuff...?
[11:26] <akk> chris24tnt: in dmesg it'll be one of the last few lines if you just inserted the card. It's chronological.
[11:26] <chris24tnt> oh no, it's built in
[11:26] <poningru> anyone ever tried qtorrent?
[11:26] <chris24tnt> so any idea where it might end up?
[11:26] <poningru> is it anygood?
[11:26] <akk> chris24tnt: Oh, I just scrolled up and saw it's a broadcom.
[11:26] <chris24tnt> ya :)
[11:27] <akk> chris24tnt: You'll probably have to google on that. Broadcom is one of the companies that keeps their specs secret.
[11:27] <chris24tnt> i read somewhere that i might need to install something so that i can install the windows drivers
[11:27] <chris24tnt> akk, lovely; guess you get what you pay for :P
[11:27] <akk> chris24tnt: Yeah. I think there's a native driver in development too (reverse engineered) but I don't know how well it works.
[11:27] <chris24tnt> hmmmm
[11:27] <akk> chris24tnt: If you google I'm sure you'll find both of those.
[11:28] <chris24tnt> k, i'll give it a try. are you interested, if i find the answer?
[11:28] <Andares> Hmm...
[11:28] <Andares> There seems to be sort of a muffler on the sound.
[11:28] <Andares> Pads it over a bit, eliminates sharp tones, etc.
[11:28] <Andares> Does it exist?
[11:28] <Andares> How do I eliminate it?
[11:29] <Andares> Also, how do I set Ubuntu to work on two monitors?
[11:29] <tarvid> running proftpd, login as a user and i can read /etc - not good
[11:30] <chris24tnt> also, firefox continually closes out my tabs, and i have no idea why. if i click a link that opens a tab, it opens but closes the tab when i click on it. if i hit ctrl+t, it just gives me a lovely blank screen
[11:30] <tarvid> can i fix this or should i look for a chrrot solution?
[11:30] <Andares> Heh.
[11:30] <Andares> I use to know a chris123nt.
[11:30] <Nimble> how do I rename a file in Ubuntu, as in whats the commmand
[11:31] <tarvid> Nimble, mv a b
[11:31] <Chris_Tucker> mv oldname newname
[11:32] <robert_pectol> tarvid:   Last time I configured proftpd, there was an option in the config file to chroot the users to their home directories.
[11:32] <robert_pectol> tarvid:   That's what I'd do if possible.
[11:33] <qt2> are there other ubuntu related channels? such as #ubuntu-dev, for example?
[11:33] <chris24tnt> hmmm...it seems that there is a windows ndis driver compatibility layer at linuxant.com, but it's not free, and it seems to get varying success rates
[11:33] <cafuego> qt2: Yes. Also #kubuntu, #ubuntu-doc
[11:33] <Nimble> How do I delete a file now?
[11:34] <everett_> !kernel
[11:34] <qt2> cafuego, so there's no dev channel?
[11:34] <supernix> anyone know what the deal is with that really long version string for the synaptic upgrade ?
[11:34] <cafuego> qt2: There probably is.
[11:34] <taz> Nimble, you just wanna know how to delete a file? or what?
[11:34] <Nimble> what command deletes a file
[11:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> does a windows user prefer kde or gnome?
[11:35] <taz> rm
[11:35] <Nimble> is what I would like to know =D
[11:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i think i like kde better....altough some features in gnome are nice ;)
[11:35] <taz> Nimble, rm = remove
[11:35] <sun> hi what's a virtual package?
[11:36] <tarvid> thanks for the proftp help, i don't know what i did but at least i can no longer read /etc/passwd
[11:36] <highvoltage> sun: it's a package that installs other packages
[11:36] <delire> sun: it's a meta package, eg one that represents the installation of several other packages.
[11:36] <delire> sun: purely there for convenience and brevity.
[11:36] <sun> highvoltage when i tell aptitude to install it, it doesnt do anything, why not?
[11:36] <highvoltage> for example, you might have a virtuall package called "games-all", which will install all the games available.
[11:36] <highvoltage> sun: the virtual package might already be installed
[11:36] <Virtuall> heyko, stop highlighting me
[11:36] <Virtuall> virtual is written with one l
[11:37] <Virtuall> ;)
[11:37] <Virtuall> hey*
[11:37] <Virtuall> oops
[11:37] <Virtuall> pressed tab
[11:37] <Virtuall> lol
[11:37] <sun> is kino the best for taking home videos off dv camera and working with them on ubuntu?
[11:37] <Virtuall> forget it
[11:37] <Virtuall> :D
[11:37] <delire> LuNaTiK^GuY: save the majority of users that will do it anyway alot of time.
[11:37] <delire> sun: kino. it's excellent
[11:38] <sun> thanks
[11:38] <LuNaTiK^GuY> delire: i agree....although its not difficult to follow the instructions on the ubuntu guide
[11:38] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: it is
[11:38] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how?
[11:38] <LuNaTiK^GuY> all i did was copy the commands
[11:38] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and it all worked
[11:38] <kbrooks> for newbies who want to know WHAT THE COMMANDS do
[11:38] <LuNaTiK^GuY> apt-get is a sort of package manager
[11:38] <delire> LuNaTiK^GuY: it's more the annoyance, i don't think it's so difficult, but many have no idea what those commands are.
[11:39] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: you certainly  DO not know what the commands do
[11:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> apt-get install mypackage
[11:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wots so tough?
[11:39] <nothingssomethin> if i install smb on ubuntu is there a graphical interface that i can use  ....for anyone
[11:39] <justeco> I can't seem t find a flash plugin for Mozilla in any repositories.  Has it been removed due to licensing or something?
[11:39] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: uh, other commands, not just apt. for example, wget
[11:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yes ok
[11:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> kbrooks
[11:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm still learning
[11:39] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: 'what does -c do?'
[11:39] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: that's a mere example
[11:39] <LuNaTiK^GuY> -c ....its a command to show u want to resume the download
[11:40] <delire> .. there's my 0.02 Euro cents
[11:40] <Andares> o_()
[11:40] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm coming form windows
[11:40] <LuNaTiK^GuY> so i'm finding some stuff very tough to deal with
[11:40] <taz> nothingssomethin, what are you going to use smb for? sharing files on your linux machine?
[11:40] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: i'm saying in general
[11:40] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but i'm learning bits here and there
[11:41] <taz> nothingssomethin, in that case in gnome you have a GUI when you rightclick on a folder and chose "share"
[11:41] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: YOU DO want to know what the commands do? then use manual pages, google, etc.
[11:41] <LuNaTiK^GuY> kbrooks....i DO agree with u
[11:41] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: unfortunately
[11:41] <justeco> Anyone have some insite into where the flash plugin disappeared to?
[11:41] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but i'm willing to learn
[11:41] <bach_lap> thats good
[11:41] <LuNaTiK^GuY> it takes time
[11:41] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: for total noobs who dont want to learn, ...
[11:41] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: ^^^^
[11:41] <delire> kbrooks: precis, just use
[11:41] <LuNaTiK^GuY> if u dont want to learn..........Linux is a learning platform
[11:42] <robert_pectol> tarvid:   I can msg you with an example proftpd config file that will put the users in a chroot environment if you want...
[11:42] <LuNaTiK^GuY> its free to get....but theres a price....a steep learning curve
[11:42] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: how about grandma?
[11:42] <ksyms> How do I open my xserver so other applications can connect to it?
[11:42] <delire> LuNaTiK^GuY: but it can be a general purpose OS. and a good migration target for those that don't want to learn
[11:42] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: as in the idiot user
[11:42] <LuNaTiK^GuY> grandma? i never got on the net faster than i do with linux
[11:42] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i never got an office suit faster than i did with linux
[11:42] <LuNaTiK^GuY> thats enough for grandma
[11:42] <bach_lap> hehe
[11:42] <delire> LuNaTiK^GuY: but you're obviously a smart and curious person interested in computing.
[11:43] <kbrooks> delire: yes, but can you think of a scenario where someone does not want to learn and just wants to DO SOMETHING?
[11:43] <LuNaTiK^GuY> windows takes ma at least 6 hours to set up properly
[11:43] <bach_lap> but if u think about it.. u have to learn windows too
[11:43] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: lol, for me, its days
[11:43] <LuNaTiK^GuY> although i agree some aspects of windows are easier to deal with
[11:43] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Linux is improving at a rapid rate
[11:43] <Andares> Hmm...
[11:43] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and Ubuntu is testimony to it
[11:43] <Andares> How do I configure my second monitor in Ubuntu?
[11:43] <BockBilbo> does de download option of firefox work fine for you guys in ubuntu?
[11:44] <ksyms> How do I open my xserver so other applications can connect to it?
[11:44] <BockBilbo> i mean, clicking on a url to download a file.. does it open the firefox download manager?
[11:44] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: "easier" is irrevelant. how easy is linux? how easy is windows? there's no way to measure how either is "easier".
[11:44] <BockBilbo> it doesnt work for me since i upgraded last day
[11:44] <foxiness> how can i uninstall mono "not .deb" i dont remember the Instructions , coz its long time now from i do that on april
[11:44] <delire> kbrooks: sit down at a computer and print something. i oversaw several Ubuntu machines at a festival on the weekend. Ubuntu held up really well. most took around 10mins to get used to basic navigation. printing something was a little trickier however.
[11:44] <kbrooks> delire: 10 minutes is too long.
[11:44] <foxiness> i want to install now the last one 1.7
[11:44] <LuNaTiK^GuY> kbrooks.....i've been using win for 10 yrs...so its 2nd nature...so i may find it easier...but i'm getting the hang of PARTS of linux
[11:45] <LuNaTiK^GuY> with time
[11:45] <kbrooks> delire: for windows, it takes a MINUTE to get used navigation
[11:45] <foxiness> sorry Mono 1.1.7
[11:45] <delire> kbrooks: perhaps.. however having seen Linux in very public situations several times in the past, it's getting there. it's really close.
[11:45] <Prof_Frink> LuNaTiK^GuY: best way to learn something is to play with it
[11:45] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Prof_Frink: thats exactly wot i'm doing
[11:45] <oggah> been using windows for ten years also. started with win95 1994 I think :)
[11:46] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm tryong to do stuff i do with win on Linux
[11:46] <delire> kbrooks: win32 has the benefit of familiarity. it is recognised, thus comforting. first barrier overcome.
[11:46] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: example?
[11:46] <jakeB> it also has great development environments
[11:46] <LuNaTiK^GuY> the first thing that got me to use linux are the gui's...very mac like
[11:46] <oggah> have been studying the linuxcommunity seriously for the last year.
[11:46] <foxiness> its safe to install mono 1.1.7 over 1.1.6 (sorcepackage) ?
[11:46] <LuNaTiK^GuY> internet...office work...programming work....mutimedia
[11:46] <delire> kbrooks: that folk can sit down on a new OS, Ubuntu, and be up and running in 10mins on average is impressive in itself.
[11:46] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: ummm... guis can be "not mac like"
[11:46] <aru> LuNaTiK^GuY: customizable, so you don't have to stare at xp luna for 5 years until an update
[11:46] <foxiness> coz i dont know how can i uninstall it now
[11:47] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i like the MAC standard
[11:47] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: for example, look at kde
[11:47] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i usually mod my gnome/kde to look like a MAC :)
[11:47] <oggah> kde and gnome is slow! go for xfce, fluxbox or something light :)
[11:47] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: i like the windows standard
[11:47] <kbrooks> oggah...
[11:47] <Andares> Ahh...
[11:47] <LuNaTiK^GuY> kde is similar to Windows
[11:47] <kbrooks> oggah: speed is irrevelant
[11:47] <Andares> I need a window manager that's like Windows 2000/XP.
[11:47] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yet its much more modifiable
[11:47] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: i customized gnome
[11:47] <Andares> Or I will go INSANE.
[11:47] <Andares> ;x
[11:47] <oggah> Andares, xfce4-
[11:47] <kbrooks> Andares: customize gnome
[11:47] <kbrooks> oggah: wrong
[11:48] <Andares> oggah, k.
[11:48] <oggah> kbrooks, whats right?
[11:48] <kbrooks> oggah: customizing gnome
[11:48] <kbrooks> oggah: want a ss?
[11:48] <Amaranth> Andares: Why do you want to make GNOME look like ass^WWindows?
[11:48] <kbrooks> as in screenshot
[11:48] <Andares> What the hay?
[11:48] <kbrooks> Amaranth: be nice, please
[11:48] <LuNaTiK^GuY> look at this...in windows ur given one GUI...and like it or not...u must stick to it....so yes u must learn it...in Linux ur given choice...and sometimes its tougher to choose than to actually USE it....
[11:48] <Andares> This looks nothing like NT 5.00.. It looks like Mac.
[11:48] <delire> Andares: KDE can be setup to be almost undetectably Windows like.
[11:49] <oggah> is it easy to get gnome / kde look like mac os x?
[11:49] <Andares> Amaranth, because making a cold conversion from Windows XP to Linux is stressing me out.
[11:49] <boudewijn> i've got a question: how can i force my cdrom to eject?
[11:49] <kbrooks> oggah: yes very easy
[11:49] <Andares> boudewijn, sledgehammer.
[11:49] <oggah> show me som screendumps :)
[11:49] <kbrooks> oggah: do you want a ss or not?
[11:49] <qt2> if i do a apt-get dist-upgrade, as per the ubuntu updat managers instructuions, i get an error saying "The following packages have been kept back: libwnck16" ...why?
[11:49] <Andares> or use a paperclip.
[11:49] <Amaranth> kbrooks: I can't, I'm in a bad mood.
[11:49] <oggah> sure
[11:49] <boudewijn> Andares, lol
[11:49] <delire> oggah: yes of course: http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=15431&file1=15431-1.jpg&file2=15431-2.jpg&file3=15431-3.jpg&name=KDE+3.3+-+Xorg+6.8+Beta+-+Unbeatable
[11:49] <kbrooks> oggah: uh, this is for windows
[11:49] <Amaranth> kbrooks: my linux HD crashed taking all the work i did on smeg 0.8 with it
[11:49] <kbrooks> Amaranth: be calm?
[11:49] <Andares> boudewijn, there's a little slot you can stick a paperclip into that'll make it eject.
[11:49] <Amaranth> kbrooks: and i don't have any CDs so i'm stuck on windows
[11:49] <kbrooks> Amaranth: oh my gosh
[11:49] <qt2> followed "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded."
[11:50] <kbrooks> Amaranth: i feel sorry for you. but i have .....
[11:50] <kbrooks> a way
[11:50] <delire> Amaranth: ouch.
[11:50] <qt2> how do i upgrade that, and why does it not want to upgrade...?
[11:50] <chero> Hello
[11:50] <oggah> kbrooks, try dcc send.
[11:50] <Amaranth> kbrooks: i can't touch this HD, it's got to keep windows on it
[11:50] <kbrooks> Amaranth: why?
[11:50] <oggah> delire, gosh. so great lookin!
[11:50] <delire> qt2: try an apt-get upgrade, again.
[11:50] <LuNaTiK^GuY> http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=15431&file1=15431-1.jpg&file2=15431-2.jpg&file3=15431-3.jpg&name=KDE+3.3+-+Xorg+6.8+Beta+-+Unbeatable
[11:50] <chero> I'm a Linux newbie, no experience besides Knoppix. How do I mount the other windows partitions located on my HD?
[11:50] <LuNaTiK^GuY> WOWWW
[11:50] <kbrooks> Amaranth: are you scaresd?
[11:50] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i want that ;)
[11:51] <LuNaTiK^GuY> be rite with u chero
[11:51] <delire> oggah: frankly it's horrible to me, but yes, it's possible to have an OSX clone on KDE easily.
[11:51] <Amaranth> kbrooks: 1) it's not mine 2) it's got games on it 3) other people need windows to be on it
[11:51] <oggah> delire, looks better than mac os x :) does it require alot of ram?
[11:51] <gigaclon> !mount
[11:51] <ubotu> I heard mount is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:51] <delire> oggah: about as much.
[11:51] <gigaclon> !tell chero about mount
[11:51] <msieradzki> can i get transparent windows in current ubuntu (breezy) or i need to wait for some new x server or something like that?
[11:51] <kbrooks> Amaranth: ok ok
[11:51] <delire> oggah: would take you about a day, but it would be yours ;)
[11:51] <LuNaTiK^GuY> follow ubotu :)
[11:51] <oggah> =)
[11:51] <flyingpenguin900> HOLY
[11:51] <qt2> delire, no difference.
[11:51] <kbrooks> flyingpenguin900: what?
[11:51] <Amaranth> kbrooks: i think the other HD is savable, i just need to figure out how
[11:52] <delire> qt2: try to apt-get install that package.
[11:52] <kbrooks> Amaranth: well, i heard freezing it
[11:52] <kbrooks> no
[11:52] <Amaranth> kbrooks: if i had my hoary CD i'd boot up in rescue mode
[11:52] <kbrooks> cooling
[11:52] <Amaranth> kbrooks: i don't have a crashed head
[11:52] <kbrooks> Amaranth: ah
[11:52] <flyingpenguin900> anywho... the reason I asked all those questions befor... was because my other computer was running an ATI card and I just put in an nvidia... now X won't start
[11:52] <kbrooks> Amaranth: sorry
[11:52] <flyingpenguin900> I need help uninstalled my fglrx drivers :(
[11:53] <kbrooks> Amaranth: what do you have
[11:53] <kbrooks> flyingpenguin900: no, you dont
[11:53] <foxiness> flyingpenguin900, xorgconfig
[11:53] <Amaranth> kbrooks: the partition table and/or FATs (or equivalent) are corrupted
[11:53] <qt2> delire, aye, that worked, but why was it being held back?
[11:53] <delire> oggah LuNaTiK^GuY http://img38.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img38&image=screen_lynucs_1759409500411796a9ba106_1.jpg
[11:53] <Amaranth> i guess on ext3 it'd be a superblock
[11:53] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Linux is not ALL easy...but its improving....but we shouldnt expect it to be a Windows copy...although IMHO it should follow some guidelines
[11:53] <flyingpenguin900> background: I used fglrxconfig to config my xorg.conf, I also compiled my drivers from the xorg.rpm (someone helped me)
[11:54] <kbrooks> flyingpenguin900: oh gosh
[11:54] <LuNaTiK^GuY> delire: a pure Aqua :)
[11:54] <flyingpenguin900> foxiness, run xorgcinfig?
[11:54] <kbrooks> flyingpenguin900: WHO helped you?
[11:54] <oggah> delire, thats a nice desktop. But guess it will be very sluggish.
[11:54] <oggah> slow.
[11:54] <delire> qt2: i don't know, i'd have to see the output. usually packages are 'held back' when they require another package to be installed /*first*/.
[11:54] <flyingpenguin900> I think delire helped... or it was something close hold on I will check
[11:54] <kbrooks> flyingpenguin900: i'd like to beat the person who helped you up
[11:54] <foxiness> flyingpenguin900, yeah
[11:55] <delire> oggah: don't know. a decent graphics card, should be no problem. i however choose to go in the absolute other direction. i have personal issues with icons.
[11:55] <LuNaTiK^GuY> if its a theme on top of gnome/kde it will run just as fine i guess
[11:55] <LuNaTiK^GuY> is the linux community fearing Longhorn a little bit?
[11:55] <flyingpenguin900> why whould you like to beet them?
[11:55] <LuNaTiK^GuY> its like gonna be the BIG BANG from M$
[11:56] <aru> LuNaTiK^GuY: Longhorn is a myth
[11:56] <Prof_Frink> LuNaTiK^GuY: s/longhorn/vista
[11:56] <kbrooks> flyingpenguin900: because rpm is incompatible with debian
[11:56] <kbrooks> annd ubuntu
[11:56] <LuNaTiK^GuY> y a myth?
[11:56] <fnd> longhorn, who cares
[11:56] <qt2> delire, i see, thank you anyway.
[11:56] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wot if by some remote chance...longhorn comes out to be this super-sable bomb as promised
[11:56] <flyingpenguin900> kbrooks, I know that!!! ati only has rpms I hat to alien it
[11:56] <kbrooks> http://www.winsupersite.com/
[11:57] <LuNaTiK^GuY> XP is already "Ok"
[11:57] <aru> LuNaTiK^GuY: you mean like how XP got everyone to leave NT, 2000, and 98?
[11:57] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: "latest updates" on the left
[11:57] <qt2> LuNaTiK^GuY, maybe the envisioned version of vista held some weight, but what it's become is nothing special.
[11:57] <foxiness> why when i try to run (blam,BloGTK,F-spot) from user acoount not working that if i try sudo it will run ?!
[11:57] <ksyms> I tried to remove the '-nolisten' from the file /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc but X still starting with this option, what is the file I should edit so X will not start with nolisten?
[11:57] <fnd> LuNaTiK^GuY: XP sucks donkeys, end off
[11:58] <LuNaTiK^GuY> fnd...example?
[11:58] <kbrooks> fnd: be nice
[11:58] <fnd> hands off :)
[11:58] <foxiness> fnd, dont say suck to xp
[11:58] <cafuego> and unless every PC users on the planet is going to buy a new 64bit multicore smp box with 4 GB ram, Longhorn won't run very well on their machines.
[11:58] <kbrooks> cafuego: LH == BLOATED PIECE OF CRAP
[11:59] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i wont buy that....is that really wot longhorn needs???????
[11:59] <cafuego> kbrooks: That's what I said.
[11:59] <LuNaTiK^GuY> pay attn to Bloated...MANY linux distros ARE bloated
[11:59] <kbrooks> LuNaTiK^GuY: uh, no] 
[11:59] <cafuego> LuNaTiK^GuY: At some stage in the past there was talk about either it or whatever comes after it requiring a 4-way SMP box.
[11:59] <foxiness> fnd, can you think your grandma will use linux ?!
[11:59] <kbrooks> cafuego: what's that?
[11:59] <mdke> does anyone know if I need a user to be in a particular group to be able to run a cronjob in hoary? I've made a crontab for a user and it is not getting run >_<
[11:59] <kbrooks> foxiness: uh
[11:59] <aru> does anyone know why that Will_ guy keeps getting nick collidded?
[11:59] <mdke> help!!
[11:59] <kbrooks> WAIT