=== Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:03] ok, how does one install mozilla extensions ?! [12:04] I don't find Colony [12:04] am I blind ? === luis_ is now known as lu|dinner === lu|dinner is now known as lu|snack [12:06] found it [12:06] Amaranth: given the time, it won't be mailed before monday === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-075-061.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:08] hub_: i don't need it anymore, thanks anyway [12:09] Amaranth: okay. good [12:09] i called someone, they'll have it to me on sunday [12:09] i just hope i don't lose /home [12:09] i don't have another copy of smeg 0.8 anywhere [12:09] :-/ === jlje [~agp@AMontpellier-152-1-50-103.w83-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:10] oh shit, i don't have another copy of my work on pymusique anywhere either [12:10] jlje reminded me :/ [12:12] i was going to make room to install in another partition hoary server install [12:13] i'm starting to think i will b0rk my stuff [12:14] i did it once and Amaranth is not really helping [12:14] lol [12:14] heh === Amaranth will upload everything to his server the second it's working again [12:14] if it works again === pax [pax@dd05.us] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dato [~adeodato@dato.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === dato [~adeodato@dato.developer.debian] has left #ubuntu-devel ["."] === eruin [~eruin@76.84-48-29.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hub_ is now known as hubWE === lsuactiafner [~noirrac@tpc-ip-nas-1-p43.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj [robertj@66.188.77.153] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlje [~agp@AMontpellier-152-1-50-103.w83-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === camilotelles [~Camilo@201.32.198.159] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj_ [robertj@66.188.77.153] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj__ [robertj@66.188.77.153] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont ->home === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LinuxJones [~willy@blk-222-221-81.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stratus [~stratus@201008051045.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === susus [~sz@p5089C6DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [~j@jupiter.physics.ubc.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === camilotelles [~Camilo@201.32.198.159] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gnobody [~jason@blk-222-50-94.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:49] hey [02:50] is X *still* broken? [02:52] Gnobody: you have reminded me of one of my favorite answers [02:52] "yes, signals are broken. But not that way." [02:52] I think it generally applies to X as well. === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@info12-74.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:52] damn [02:52] as for whether or not X is sane again, I couldn't say. But that's a #ubuntu question === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-162.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlje [~agp@AMontpellier-152-1-50-103.w83-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sfvt [~sfvt@pool-64-222-117-63.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [~bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:01] doko: nope [04:02] errr [04:02] infinity: libxt b-ds on libsm >= 1:6.0.4-2, and -3 is in the archive === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:30] infinity: right, I see what happened now. === bskahan [~bskahan@pool-70-19-107-83.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian thinks daniels is talking to himself === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:46] hey daniels [04:46] you do anything with preseed files? [04:51] CarlFK: nope, sorry [04:56] no prob === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:33] where i can find a package building (from scratch) manual from? [05:33] zwnj: The Debian New Maintainers Guide [05:33] seems building debian packages is harder that rpm [05:33] Nah [05:33] bddebian: thanks :) [05:34] Anyone know what is up with debdiff all of the sudden??? === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xhaker [~xhaker@213.201.220.244] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [06:17] mornign [06:19] Morning fabbione [06:34] heya guys [06:35] fabbione: morning [06:35] Hello trulux [06:38] bddebian: hi :) [06:39] anyone knows the time when Jane joins the channel? [06:39] Not me sorry [06:39] trulux, she is UTC or UTC+1 [06:41] Burgundavia: many thanks, I just need to show some more stuff to pitti and her === lexhider [~lexhider@dip-220-235-87-46.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-162.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === GNULinuxer [~ghoseb@59.95.2.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:30] daniels: not to sound like a naggy mc nag nag, but what is holding linux-restricted-modules back? [07:31] davyd: a few things.. [07:31] it will be around soon again [07:31] 2.6.12 prior the last upload was not exactly stable [07:32] and adding more instability due to binary driver was going to be only an extra mess for me to get stuff fixed [07:33] so -4 is the go? [07:34] davyd: it did close a lot of bug... [07:34] rock and roll [07:34] does it look like the home stretch now? [07:34] i might have to break it again to get some ipw2x00 extra love, but i can do it outside the archive to test [07:34] or is there a heck of a lot of work remaining? [07:35] it's half way [07:35] in theory there is a lot of packaging work [07:35] but the code seems to be pretty stable [07:35] and in the beginning i had to focus on that [07:35] (reason why l-r-m isn't around yet) [07:36] + we had slightly less time than usual to work on l-r-m due to C++ and X transitions all together [07:36] that clearly are higher priority [07:36] (if X doesn't work.. you can play pingpong with l-r-m ;)) [07:45] yeah, it's just been full-on, and l-r-m hasn't been on my radar due to not being 'urgent holy shit needed last week' === davyd nods [07:48] I don't mind rebuilding the nvidia packages as required, I was mostly wondering if it was a time problem or a technical problem [07:48] I get the impression it's been a time problem [07:48] incidently, "libsexy" now has a spellchecking entry widget [07:48] I wonder how that would look in X-Chat [07:51] davyd: it's both actually.. [07:51] because X is removing /usr/X11R6 [07:51] or anyway killing part of it [07:51] that reflects on nvidia and ATI too [07:52] the gcc transition made impossible to build them [07:52] + the time [07:52] ok, I didn't notice that compiling nvidia-glx, but ok [07:52] is it going to break with -43? [07:52] but given that main needs to be stabilized first to build l-r-m properly... [07:52] i dunno... [07:52] i didn't upgrade X for a while [07:52] I guess I'll find out the hard way [07:52] (btw i do compile nvidia myself too...) [07:53] but to have a stable desktop to work on the kernel i had to stop upgrading X [07:53] so i dunno [08:00] I picked the wrong day originally to install breezy on my new machine [08:01] and it took until X -43 to get Xv working on my laptop [08:01] well, to be fair, that bug was present in warty and hoary also [08:01] yes [08:02] but that's why I took to upgrading X [08:03] lamont: ... which headers disappeared from dbus, exactly? [08:06] daniels: [08:06] fd_set et al === lamont needs to file the bug [08:06] pretty sure I called it dbus-signal.patch [08:07] and -ubuntu6 had the arch spec on mono-mcs [08:08] so you added some missing #includes [08:14] I added one missing include [08:14] and all was right with the world again [08:15] clearly it included something that _used_to_ include sys/signal.h [08:20] http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/byDate/today.html [08:20] enjoy the pain that is breezy-autotest, folks [08:21] interesting, amd64 is kicking butt [08:22] heh [08:24] buildLogs/Test/Lists/breezy-autotest.all.amd64:Total 159 package(s) in state Installed. [08:24] buildLogs/Test/Lists/breezy-autotest.all.i386:Total 97 package(s) in state Installed. [08:24] buildLogs/Test/Lists/breezy-autotest.all.ia64:Total 53 package(s) in state Installed. [08:24] buildLogs/Test/Lists/breezy-autotest.all.powerpc:Total 96 package(s) in state Installed. [08:24] hrm... maybe that was semi-spewage [08:25] does the latest kdelibs fix the uninstallable problem? [08:25] or do we need to do some kind of magic? [08:25] still no clue... dbus was blocking kdelibs for me [08:25] but that's built now. cool [08:26] it's the other way around for me.. [08:26] dbus can't build because of kdelibs.. === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@info1-5.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:26] fabbione: yeah, you need to break the loop there [08:26] daniels: how? [08:26] autotest = randomly rebuild already built source packages? [08:26] daniels: or better.. in what order? [08:27] bob2: use the debs from breezy, and a snapshot of the source from same. build, and then throw away (well, notreally, but effectively) the resulting debs [08:27] ah, neat [08:27] fabbione: i assume disable dbus support in kdelibs, build dbus off that, and rebuild kdelibs off dbus [08:27] that's if you're bootstrapping [08:27] daniels: or find an older, installable kdelibs [08:27] right [08:27] hmmmm [08:27] ok [08:28] giving the morgue is broken, it's going to be difficult [08:28] my issue right now is that it still isn't installable, since libopenexr-dev isn't available from breezy [08:29] daniels: anything wrong with this list for an xorg-split kind of world?? autotools-dev cdbs debhelper libfltk1.1-dev xlibmesa-gl-dev xlibmesa-glu-dev [08:30] lamont: xlibmesa-gl-dev | libgl-dev, libglu1-xorg-dev | libglu-dev === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:31] ok [08:31] that's openexr, fwiw [08:31] must, must provide alternatives === lamont goes to bed [08:32] night lamont [08:33] night dude [08:34] daniels: and feel free to look at all the missing X* symbols in imlib2 if you're really looking for something to distract you from xorg proper. :) [08:35] ot [08:35] er [08:35] it's saturday [08:36] lamont: example build log though? 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[02:30] Mithrandir: yes. [02:30] i told elmo already [02:31] the morgue? [02:31] Mithrandir: are you going to be around monday? [02:31] highvoltage: morgue.ubuntu.com [02:32] fabbione: sure [02:33] Mithrandir: we need to talk about Xen, but not now. i am moving al the stuff around the office today and reconfiguring tomorrow [02:33] Mithrandir: i am on a 80x24 12" monitor atm :) [02:33] and can't really do much [02:33] fabbione: heh, ok. [02:34] ok.. i am offline again.. time to switch my ws to 3x21" :) [02:34] i wonder what resolution can handle the Sun monitor... === luis_ [~louie@c-66-31-46-131.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:37] I'd like to have piuparts from unstable included in ubuntu. it seems useful for doing qa of packages. who do I need to ask? [02:37] in universe, that is === eruin [~eruin@76.84-48-29.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === swarm [~swarm@host35-125.pool80181.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:38] Mithrandir, there obviously is no limit on 65000 files in a ext3 directory ;) [02:38] Mithrandir, (as you told me) [02:38] see http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/ [02:41] siretart: email elmo to sync it [02:41] it would be nice if pbuilder could do the same things [02:41] or piuparts use the pbuilder chroot [02:41] (sbuild) === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-18-104.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:42] heh: [02:42] find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for .: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver. Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option. Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched. [02:42] hi [02:42] daniels: around? [02:43] tseng: piuparts can use the base.tgz of pbuilder [02:43] ogra: sorry, 32k directories. :-) [02:43] siretart: rock. [02:43] ogra: try seq 40000 | xargs mkdir [02:44] seb128: ELATEONASATURDAYNIGHT [02:44] hah, nice that find can work around some disk corruption [02:44] bob2: just trying to make sure to not conflict with his uploads before upload a xft to drop XOPEN_SOURCE from here [02:44] bob2: if he's away that's fine :) [02:45] Mithrandir, seriously i wont try it on *this* PII 233 ;) [02:45] ah :) [02:45] ogra: get a real computer. ;-) [02:45] Mithrandir, thats a *server* *g* [02:46] Mithrandir, but once i mived all this crap to the DC i'll upgrade the machine ;) [02:46] moved even [02:46] ogra: :-) [02:46] opteron ! [02:47] tseng: dude, beagle appears to ftbfs here... === robertj_ [robertj@66.188.77.153] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:49] thom: libgmime-cil is out of sync with the thing it's binding [02:49] yes [02:50] gmime 2.1 is a hard dep for 0.12 [02:50] 0.12 is not uploaded because it does nothing but explode here [02:50] stay tuned [02:51] thom: want to look at blam/mozilla bug? === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-074-109.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:51] tseng: not really :-) [02:52] meh [02:52] sounds like we are at a stand-off [02:53] If my HD worked I'd look at blam :) [02:53] If grub spits out Error 17 when it's supposed to load the menu of choices it can't read /boot, right? [02:55] can anyone tell me why mono isnt building === camilotelles [~Camilo@201.32.198.159] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zwnj [~behnam@81.31.160.199] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:57] fabbione: will the kernel be built with gcc 3.4 until breezy release? [02:58] slomo: probably [02:59] fabbione: ok, thanks === aigarius [~aigarius@159.148.239.80] has joined #ubuntu-devel === scorpix [~arabian@as8-101.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [~bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:25] Morning [03:32] morning, bddebian [03:32] (or good afternoon, from my timezone) [03:37] Heya highvoltage === jdthood [~jdthood@aglu.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === scorpix [~arabian@as8-101.qualitynet.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.114.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thierry [~thierry@modemcable094.69-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:02] bddebian: do you think canonical/ubuntu will support the hurd kernel and release a ubuntu gnu/hurd, once it hits v1.0? [04:02] i doubt canonical will, but ubuntu might if there's community interest [04:02] seb128 : Looks like XOPEN_SOURCE still hasn't been completely purged from the X dependency chain, so you should probably stop uploading things to "fix" it... [04:03] infinity: hum? what package has been b0rked? [04:03] not sure there will be interest though [04:03] infinity: xft? [04:03] seb128 : pango still has it in its .pc file. [04:03] infinity: yeah, due to xft [04:03] infinity: that's why I've uploaded xft ... should be fine now [04:04] then I can upload gtk [04:04] then I can work :p [04:04] seb128 : Ahh. Hrm. Kay. Of course, several X libs here still show it as well (sm, xmu, xt, xtrap) [04:04] infinity: pango don't use those [04:04] Heh. Kay. :) [04:04] highvoltage: I doubt it but I am working on creating an Ubutnu Hurd derivative [04:04] So, xft, pango, gtk, gdk, PROFIT? [04:05] bddebian: ah, that will be nice (at least for testing) [04:05] infinity: that's the plan :) [04:05] And I can sort out the rest of the X libs that still look goofy later. [04:05] bddebian: cool, send me the gcc-4.0 fixes if you do so, then :) [04:05] seb128 : Once you've done those uploads, are we ready for me to do a mass give-back to the buildds again, and see what blows up? [04:05] infinity: do you know how is xorg/xkb nowadays? [04:05] infinity: I still have -33 here [04:05] Hey any chance one of you "main" types can sync devscripts from Debian unstable? It's broken in breezy atm [04:06] infinity: yeah [04:06] seb128 : Not sure, I run X in hoary still, my breezy stuff is all chrooted. Probably should switch this month, though. [04:06] bddebian : Yeah, I was goign to request that sync once the Debian uploads settled down a bit (there've been a few in a row) [04:06] infinity: could you perhaps tell me why mono isnt building? [04:06] bddebian : I assume it's the breakage of "debdiff" you want fixed (same as me)? [04:06] infinity: Ah, OK, thx [04:07] infinity: Yes, debdiff :-) [04:07] infinity: or, seeming hasnt entered buildd more specifically [04:07] tseng : Specific package(s)? [04:07] infinity: mono 1.1.8.2 [04:08] tseng : dep-wait on mono-classlib-1.0... I assume this is incorrect? :) [04:08] infinity: yes, that must be from my previous upload [04:08] infinity: we managed to get it bootstraping internally [04:09] tseng : Freed up, shold build shortly. [04:10] should, too. [04:10] infinity: cheers [04:16] mdke: you should be able to access my server on port 22 now === darkling [~hugo@81-5-136-19.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@info1-159.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:30] tseng : Built. [04:31] tseng, ah cool, i was just uploading now :D [04:31] tseng, btw we have a docteam linode set up now so as soon as we have a subdomain pointing at it, i'll let you know and you can close our account on your server [04:32] mdke: ok, rock on [04:32] infinity: thanks dude [04:33] wth [04:33] http://www.magicalforest.se/tmp/libxaw_7.0.2-3.diff [04:34] infinity: if you still have a few moments, could you look at that buildlog [04:34] infinity: apt cache troubles [04:35] builds cleanly on amd64 and should fix xkbutils ftbfs [04:35] :-) === hunger [vax@p54A67511.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:36] Nafallo, my hero! [04:36] Is xkb broken again? [04:36] yup [04:36] bob2 What is the workaround this time? [04:37] I dunno if there is one === shackan [~shackan@host137-78.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger sighs. [04:37] hunger: to dep-wait on xkb-utils :-) [04:37] my work around was "not upgrade until breezy went a week without being fucked" [04:37] breezy is basically unusable most of the time:-( [04:38] bob2: what's the fun in that? ;-) [04:38] funny that ive been using it the entire time [04:38] bob2: Can't do that... I need the new kernel. [04:38] is there some known problem with udev? [04:39] tseng: proof that I'm lazier than you [04:39] bob2: ^^ [04:39] bob2: Actually rebuilding the kernel a couple of times would have saved lots of time. [04:39] it seems that it doesn't start here at all.. [04:39] fabbione: Yeap. It does not create /dev/input/mice for me anymore. [04:39] hunger: exactly... [04:39] and /dev/input/mice [04:39] fabbione: run udevstart manually and it will be there. [04:40] ha, that's why my usb mouse stopped to work some times [04:40] I unplugged and replugged it and it was ok [04:40] hmm [04:40] no [04:40] no luck [04:41] or maybe that was a X issue [04:41] fabbione: I talked to someone here about that two weeks ago... said it worked for him and that I should debug myself. [04:42] dang. does not fix xkbutils *goes back to hack on it*. [04:42] it's definetely a udev problem [04:43] Any change of getting a xkb fixed soonish? And a "startx" would be nice to have at some point, too;-) [04:43] X will be fixed in the next few days, hopefully [04:43] fabbione: Yeap, that was what we found out 2 weeks ago, too:-) [04:43] hunger: installed xinit? [04:44] mousedev is not modprobed.. so it could either be udev or hotplug [04:44] if i modprobe that manually.. everything works [04:44] Nafallo: There is no xinit... startx used to be part of xbase-clients, but that is basically empty nowadays. [04:45] hmm, xinit has to be NEWed ;-) [04:45] hunger: yea, daniels is spliting it. [04:45] hunger, xbase-clients is split [04:45] fabbione: mousedev is loaded here... I do have /dev/input/mouse*, but no /dev/input/mice. [04:45] hunger, it will disappear completely or get converted to as metapackage eventually [04:46] s/as/a [04:46] ogra: Thanks for the info! === shackan [~shackan@host137-78.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [~mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robertj_ [robertj@66.188.77.153] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdthood [~jdthood@aglu.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:17] tseng : Which build log? [05:22] hmm, #12888 is a very interesting big [05:22] bug === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:24] buildLogs/Test/Lists/breezy-autotest.all.amd64:Total 729 package(s) in state Building. [05:24] buildLogs/Test/Lists/breezy-autotest.all.amd64:Total 138 package(s) in state Dep-Wait. [05:24] buildLogs/Test/Lists/breezy-autotest.all.amd64:Total 1 package(s) in state Failed. [05:24] buildLogs/Test/Lists/breezy-autotest.all.amd64:Total 618 package(s) in state Installed. [05:24] buildLogs/Test/Lists/breezy-autotest.all.amd64:Total 13 package(s) in state Uploaded. [05:24] buildLogs/Test/Lists/breezy-autotest.all.amd64:Total 1499 package(s) [05:24] oops. [05:24] anyway, it's < 50% of main that has actual build failures on amd64... [05:25] infinity: it worked itself out [05:25] and < 10% that are missing build-depends [05:25] sounds good.. [05:25] how is this compared to the other arches ? === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-206-191-39-90.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lu|snack is now known as lu|away === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:32] ogra: care for a couple of uploads to main? ;-) [05:33] Nafallo, not now... i'm currently busy with other stuff... can you send me a list ? === {Seb} [~seb@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:34] <{Seb}> how is Xorg looking in Breezy? [05:34] <{Seb}> Broken? [05:34] sebest: yes. [05:34] ogra: sure, either that or I nag Tollef after dinner :-). [05:35] Nafallo, youre already there ? [05:35] I shall probably test the packages first :-) [05:35] Nafallo, great idea ;) [05:35] ogra: yepp, since yesterday evening :-) [05:35] nice :) [05:36] he's hacking dinner, while I'm hacking Xorg ;-) [05:36] <{Seb}> Nafallo: can you tell me if there are any outstanding issues with Xorg? [05:36] I'd rather do dinner, really === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:37] Seb: xkb is broken. [05:37] Seb: hopefully not long though ;-) [05:37] <{Seb}> when i'm upgrading - what do i need to be careful of then? [05:37] <{Seb}> upgrading from Colony 2 install i mean [05:38] xorg [05:38] <{Seb}> i guessed that :-) [05:38] <{Seb}> i mean which packages are broken? [05:39] seb128, he said, xkb [05:39] <{Seb}> Nafallo: how do you mean xkb is broken? [05:40] Seb: keyboard doesn't work? [05:40] seb128, I'd imagine it doesn't work without user-side hacking === HiddenWolf grumbles at autocompletion, sorry seb128 [05:40] <{Seb}> dang [05:41] <{Seb}> Nafallo: will Xorg -44 sort it> [05:41] <{Seb}> *it? [05:41] /set completion_amount 0 === bskahan [~bskahan@pool-70-19-107-83.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:41] yay! keyboard works again :-) [05:41] Seb: dunno, ask daniels :-) [05:42] daniels /away socializing === HiddenWolf wonders how you hack to fix a broken keyboard, since you obviously can't use the keyboard [05:42] HiddenWolf: assuming you're talking about broken X-chat completion, that was for you [05:42] the option is persistant, and will switch back to the old "readline" style completion [05:42] hmm, gone :-) [05:42] davyd, yeah, xchat seems to autocomplete sometimes without my pressing [05:42] Nafallo: What do I need to do to get it working here, too? [05:42] HiddenWolf: you may have an autocompletion character set [05:43] davyd, in english that means? [05:43] which allows you to type dav: and it expands to davyd: [05:43] hunger: http://www.magicalforest.se/tmp/libxaw_7.0.2-3.diff [05:43] hunger: http://www.magicalforest.se/tmp/xkbutils_7.0-3.diff [05:43] now, I'm really gone :-) [05:43] that'd be the second most annoying feature, right after the one where tab matches the first option, rather then matching as much as possible [05:43] davyd, how do I kill this? I'd rather not have my pc think for itself [05:44] HiddenWolf: the completion character is in the preferences [05:44] annoying feature -> bug [05:44] for the dumb tab completion you'll need to give the command I gave originally === grover [~grover@216-99-218-29.dsl.aracnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mitsuhiko [~blackbird@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:45] Nah, I like tab completion, it just has to do it when I want to, not at random [05:46] it doesn't turn off tab completion [05:46] it just goes to the old gnu-readline style [05:46] like it used to be [05:47] like it is in zsh === bska|mobile [~bskahan@pool-70-19-88-181.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:52] nafallo, how soon do you think it'll be before xorg is unbroken? === ogra [~ogra@p5089F159.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zwnj [~behnam@81.31.160.199] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shackan [~shackan@host137-78.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:00] HiddenWolf : A week would be a good estimate for X to be mostly happy for most users. [06:02] after X is happy, is there going to be another colony release/ [06:03] You'd have to ask Kamion, who appears to be having himself a weekend away from IRC. Something I should also do. [06:07] infinity: thank you. I really need to upgrade to breezy, but I don't feel like messing a lot. :( === _mitsuhiko [~blackbird@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === warthylog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Topic for #ubuntu-devel: Ubuntu Development | #ubuntu for support and general discussion | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DeveloperResources | If you have unexpectedly lost editbugs privileges, talk to mdz/ogra/kiko | Colony CD 2 released | yes, X is broken. | deadline for outstanding merges is 2005-07-21 === Topic (#ubuntu-devel): set by Kamion at Wed Jul 20 15:09:16 2005 [07:02] (CarlFK/#ubuntu-devel) if i hit Scroll lock just right, I can get it to stop with: tail /var/log/syslog - no such file [07:14] it seems like the install is still progressing, but the console is just being flooded with that error so I can't see the status of the install === bytee_ [~byte@byte.fedora] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:17] hi ubuntites! casper does liveCDs, has anyone thought of, or is anyone working on making it so that casper does USB thumb drive installs ? === swarm [~swarm@host35-125.pool80181.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carl [~carl@c-67-163-11-94.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chrissturm [~chris@83-65-246-1.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MagnusR [~magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thesaltydog [~fabio@62.211.45.57] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Chand [~chand@ABordeaux-151-1-15-9.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zwnj [~behnam@81.31.160.199] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === thesaltydog [~fabio@62.211.45.57] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === nasdaq7 [~gfhgfa@tkp-ip-nas-1-p130.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thesaltydog [~fabio@62.211.45.57] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:43] does anybody know if there is a patch available to let gnome-app-install working on Hoary? [07:50] dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find path for libhal.so.1 [07:50] bad hal [07:54] hey lamont === nasdaq7 [~gfhgfa@tkp-ip-nas-1-p130.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [07:54] lamont: there was no need to bootstrap dbus <-> kdelibs [07:54] kdelib first, than dbus did it === Mez downgrades dpkg [07:54] fabbione: that's because you had a dbus to install [07:54] hmm yes, but it was a very old version === lamont had no version [07:55] well, maybe in hoary [07:55] meh [07:55] and what I did was install kdelibs4-dev (with hoary allowed), and then built dbus [07:55] yeah gotcha [07:56] food is ready [07:56] later === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:05] does anybody know if there is a patch available to let gnome-app-install working on Hoary? === scorpix [~arabian@as8-101.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:07] is there any news about Colony 3? === mitsuhiko [~blackbird@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Panzerboy [~stelu@panzerboy.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:11] scorpix: From what I understand the next colony will be released once xorg gets somewhat more stable. [08:12] scorpix: Someone mentioned something about it being ready in a week or so... === scorpix [~arabian@as8-101.qualitynet.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [08:36] has anyone tried todays install? mine errors near the beginnig === syndicate [~forgue@anthracite.aca.oakland.edu] has joined #Ubuntu-Devel === {Seb} [~{Seb}@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:52] seb128: are we going to see xchat-gnome for breezy? === zwnj [~behnam@81.31.160.199] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:57] <{Seb}> mdz: what advantages does xchat-gnome have over plain xchat? [09:05] seb: xchat-gnome is a new frontend for the popular X-Chat IRC client targeted towards the GNOME platform. Our eventual goals include full desktop integration and HIG compliance. === jljes is now known as jlj [09:15] <{Seb}> great [09:15] <{Seb}> hope it gets into Breezy [09:16] doesnt build for me :( === chrissturm tries the svn version === MagnusR [~magru@85.194.14.142] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === mitsuhiko [~blackbird@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:25] anyone know of a way i can fsck my linux HD from windows? [09:25] i know this isn't a -devel question === Amaranth is desperate [09:28] Amaranth, #ubunto === bska|mobile [~bskahan@pool-70-19-88-181.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:33] Amaranth: Knoppix springs to my mind there... [09:33] No CDs. [09:34] Amaranth: ntfs or fat? [09:34] hmm, i think fat32 [09:34] Amaranth: belay thay---- I've got reading problems [09:34]