=== Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-075-061.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ng [~Ng@tenshu.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:13] anyone with some autotools knowledge want to help me fix some things? [12:13] i'm trying to get out a release of gnome-app-install, but i don't know how to configure everything [12:14] which i'll eventually learn, but i'd like to get it out there before i do that :) [12:17] niran: what's your problem? === jamessan|laptop [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] sistpoty, well, the original program was already set up to use autotools, but i've added files and folders and i'm not sure what i need to change [12:23] or what to put in a Makefile.am [12:25] niran: for each new subdir, you need to put that after "SUBDIRS" into Makefile.am of the parent folder [12:28] that's it? [12:28] not yet... [12:28] gnome-app-install is python? [12:28] right [12:29] hm... sorry, but I don't know the automake-stuff for python... i could explain you some things for c if that would help [12:30] basically for c you could build a binary with yourtargetbinary_SOURCES=cfile1.c cfile2.c (and so on) [12:31] i assume, that for python some similar macros will exist [12:32] after you setup the .am-files, you need to run: aclocal, autoconf and automake, then you can call configure to build the actual makefiles [12:32] hm, ok === sistpoty2 [~stefan@DSL01.212.114.234.12.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:36] sorry, 24h-disconnect :/ [12:41] night all! === lsuactiafner [~noirrac@tpc-ip-nas-1-p43.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:09] morning === defcon110010 [~no@26a4ef5dd3d1498a.session.tor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === defcon110010 [~no@26a4ef5dd3d1498a.session.tor] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] how can i force dpkg to install missing config files [01:54] --force-confmiss is not helping much === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [~sz@p5089C6DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [~danielb@CPE-65-26-216-107.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-162.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [~bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:56] Wake up people, there's hackin' to be done! :-) === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] Anyone awake? [04:40] nope [04:40] ajmitch!!! [04:41] yes? [04:41] ajmitch: Hi. Do you know much about the MOM stuff? === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43] hello [04:43] I know a little bit [04:44] NM, I think I figured it out. Regardless of whether it's Debian-dropped or Ubuntu-dropped, they need to be added manually if missing right? [04:48] yeah, if needed [04:52] OK, thx, sorry to bother you [05:10] I really wish someone would check all this work I'm doing. I hope I am "helping" and not causing someone more work.. :-) === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian loves to watch packages build that have a gazillion warnings.. :-) [05:30] Damn, debdiff is b0rked for me now too [05:37] ajmitch: Where the hell is everyone tonight??? [05:42] no idea === xhaker is away (Away, bnc logging) === REINOSOMASTER [reinosogn@200.97.38.207] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:31] Damn, I need my debdiff back... :'-( [06:41] hi ajmitch [06:41] just upload mono 1.1.8.2 [06:41] might be the last big update. [06:42] tseng: I know you seem to hate me but could you do me a favor? [06:42] what kind of favor [06:43] Just look at a few of the bugs I have marked as uploadpending on bugzilla to make sure I am not causing someone else more work? [06:43] i dont hate you, you just have a poor signal/noise ratio [06:43] im not a patient person [06:43] ignore it :) [06:44] ok what bugs please [06:44] tseng, have you been busy with RL? [06:44] Burgundavia: quite [06:45] school? [06:45] work. [06:45] ah [06:45] 12562, 12561, 12489,12488, 12487.. That should be enough to see if I am causing problems [06:45] ok, just haven't seen you [06:45] yep ive been barely on at all during the day [06:45] and scarce at night [06:46] cheers [06:47] i cant seem to get the attachemnt on the first bug === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-162.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:48] hm you are doing a debdiff from the mom merged package to your package? [06:48] tseng: Yeah, I screwed that one up. Loaded it as octet-stream instead of text [06:48] im looking at 12561 now [06:49] i have a feeling you intended to debdiff mom-merge + bd work back to the previous ubuntu version [06:49] but it looks like you debdiffed to mom [06:49] http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/attachment.cgi?id=3052 [06:49] just bumped changelog there [06:50] is that what you intended? === pax [pax@dd05.us] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:51] tseng: There were some debian/control changes I made from debian-dropped [06:51] they are not reflected in the patches you are posting [06:52] it does indeed sound pretty helpful what you are trying to do [06:52] get the merge work done for motu ahead of time [06:53] You are looking at 12561 right? [06:53] its just not making it across the wire.. double check your debdiff [06:53] 12561, then 12489 [06:53] they both only touch debian/changelog [06:53] Did you read the note on 12561? [06:53] yes [06:53] which is great [06:53] its just not actually in the diff [06:53] Because I didn't change it. I didn't apply that part of the patch. [06:54] hm oh [06:54] If I would have manually added libjack0.100.0 it would break the package [06:54] yes, so mom already took ours rightly [06:54] i see [06:54] Aye [06:55] then, the changelog bumps arent that helpful [06:55] but the reporting is [06:55] I probably shouldn't have bothered doing a new version. That was the first one I did [06:55] yep. [06:55] 12488 is nice [06:55] same thing slomo did for my bugs [06:58] Burgundavia: whats new? [07:00] Fixed 12562 attachment [07:00] rock [07:02] Burgundavia, not much. More work with docs. Job search [07:02] And for 12489 it had hoary and I bumped to breezy. Do I not need a ubuntu+ version for that either? [07:02] if you change something [07:03] you increase the version [07:03] always :) [07:03] But you just said... ;-) [07:03] i said that the maintainer can easily run dch -i himself [07:03] Sorry, I'll shut up now. So is what I'm doing OK? I want to help but I don't want to cause someone else more work? [07:04] but at that time he will increase the ubuntu version [07:04] it doesnt cause more work for anyone but you [07:04] Thats good because I have already hit about 10-15 of them :-) [07:04] hm cool [07:05] BTW, do you happen to know what is up with debdiff? I upgraded and now it's b0rked [07:05] nope [07:05] sorry. === tseng is a massochist and does it by hand [07:06] How would I do it by hand? Just copy the extracted dir and diff -Nurp? [07:06] eh [07:06] i remember the changes I make [07:06] i unpack the debian version and press Replay [07:07] and ignore extraneous bits [07:07] i dont recommend it [07:07] OK. Well thanks. Time for me to hit the sack. Hopefully I can hit some more tomorrow. [07:08] have a good one. [07:08] You too, thanks. === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === REINOSOMASTER [reinosogn@200.97.38.207] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:25] hi tseng [07:25] good to hear about 1.18.2 [07:32] tseng: any plans to try & get beagle 0.0.12 in past the UVF committee? or is the same gtk# api instability issue? [07:51] yay, new blam bug [07:53] everybody loves blam [07:58] yep [08:03] at least I see the bug too, which makes it easier to track down === Burgundavia cries about no news and generally lowers his signal to noise ratio === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@info1-5.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [~chrys@dsl-084-056-103-028.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:10] morning === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:15] hi herve === mitsuhiko [~blackbird@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [~blackbird@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-motu === warthylog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | for reviewing (NEW or updated)? go here: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ | First priority: MERGING , deadline was 2005-07-21 buglist: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge | http://wiki.debian.net/?EtchSlang2upgrade === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by ogra at Fri Jul 22 15:12:04 2005 === #ubuntu-motu [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup [02:19] (ogra/#ubuntu-motu) herve, done [02:19] (herve/#ubuntu-motu) thanks [02:20] hmm... what to do with a package which needs configured kernel sources? [02:21] slomo: usually just needs the kernel headers to build [02:21] like hostap [02:23] ok guys... [02:23] see you when i get back to zagreb [02:24] bye [02:24] ajmitch: linux-kernel-headers? ok... and stuff which builds kernel modules must be built with gcc 3.4? [02:24] slomo: afaik, yep [02:24] ivoks: see you later [02:25] images at http://master.grad.hr/~ivoks/summer2005 in couple of minutes :) [02:29] wow [02:29] that place is amazing [02:31] slomo, I don't see why we can drop ubuntu for rss2email [02:32] debian is still using python2.3 [02:32] herve: Nafallo looked at rss2email... mine is the line under Nafallo's ;) [02:32] whoops, sorry [02:32] Nafallo? :-) [02:33] herve: I saw. About to look at the package again now. [02:35] time for me to sleep, see you tomorrow :) [02:35] yeah... fixed mol :) is here someone who wants to look at it in maybe 15 minutes? [02:35] <\sh> *phew* [02:35] herve: python == python-2.4 in ubuntu. no need to declare all that stuff. [02:35] <\sh> warm+ shopping + a lot of to carry == terrible [02:36] heh :-) [02:36] \sh: where do you live? it's cold here ;) [02:36] Nafallo, yes but... http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/rss2email [02:36] asking for a version of Python we don't have [02:36] <\sh> slomo: nrw :) kerpen [02:37] <\sh> herve: which one? 2.2? put 2.4 in ,-) [02:37] \sh: i live also in nrw... detmold near bielefeld ;) and it's cold enough to work here :) [02:38] <\sh> slomo: really? yesterday it was 15 degrees and windy [02:38] howdy all [02:38] hey I lived in Oberhausen for three years [02:38] <\sh> slomo: btw..i worked near bielefeld :) [02:38] sh: that's why gothcat and Simira are out shopping and me and Mithrandir is on IRC :-) [02:39] <\sh> so u send your irls shopping ?;) [02:39] \sh: you think 15 is too warm? oh ok ;) hm, i have to go shopping later, too :) [02:39] <\sh> +g [02:39] <\sh> slomo: no now it 25 [02:39] \sh, python >= 2.3 << 2.4 [02:39] <\sh> herve: replace it [02:39] that's my point [02:39] we need to merge again [02:40] \sh: it's 15,8 here :P [02:40] sh: they sent themselves ;-) [02:40] <\sh> Nafallo: lol...women ;) [02:40] now you tell it, 23 is not much here [02:41] ok, I mailed elmo about the sync requests [02:42] <\sh> herve: ping ogra for editbugs...he's on === salgado [~salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eruin [~eruin@eruin.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] does anyone in here know what's required for nm-vpn-properties to not complain about missing vpn software? [02:42] \sh, he did it yes [02:42] \sh, herve already has editbugs [02:42] tseng: btw... i've mailed elmo about the boo sync request 2 days ago... there was no answer :/ [02:42] eruin: I guess it should support vpnc, and only vpnc [02:42] <\sh> slomo: i will give u a tip :) go to your favorite turkish restaurant..and order doener+lamacun extra hot'n'strong :) [02:42] argh! I could have added it to the list [02:42] <\sh> ogra: ah ok [02:43] Nafallo, hmm, I have that installed and it still complains about missing VPN software [02:43] slomo: oh. did you tell him i am sponsoring you? [02:43] Nafallo, should I report it as a bug? [02:44] tseng: yes [02:44] <\sh> ogra: r u in for laptop mission? [02:44] \sh: thanks :) i'll do this evening... the next is just 3 minutes from here ;) [02:45] my mistake! [02:45] eruin: probably :-) [02:45] rss2email can smoothly move to python2.4 [02:45] there is no version dependency written in hard [02:46] slomo, I'll ask for boo to [02:46] too [02:46] what is elmo's email? [02:46] thanks :) he has answered on irc and said i should send him a mail [02:47] I mail to james@canonical.com [02:47] herve: indeed. [02:47] \sh, seems not, i didnt get mail about it [02:47] I thought I built it :-P [02:48] <\sh> ogra: hehe so we have to buy some other stuff ;) [02:49] \sh, i will do that anyway, the keyboard of this thing here freaks me out [02:49] <\sh> ogra: why? if you don't want it...you know my address *lol* [02:50] heh [02:50] <\sh> jesus.. [02:50] <\sh> I ate too much === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-074-109.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] \sh, keyboard, only partial working DVD rom and case are the real drawbacks of this lappie... and sine i travel more, 3.5kg are not the best weight... [02:51] it's easier to request a sync in #u-d [02:51] since even... [02:51] Amaranth, but not the preferred way [02:52] <\sh> ogra: so don't buy a hp 6120 [02:52] ogra: All the canonical employees seem to do it except you. :) [02:52] <\sh> ogra: it's heavy then mine nc6000 [02:52] \sh, my next one will be a lot smaller [02:52] <\sh> but nicer actually [02:52] Amaranth, i do it too, but the preferred wa is email nevertheless [02:52] way even [02:52] I like my dell x300 [02:53] \sh, as long as it doesnt swallow half of my typed stuff and is a bit lighter i'm fine [02:53] <\sh> but at home I prefere a nice workstation with a good tft+crt [02:54] <\sh> so I have to get to my ex that she has to give it back to me *grmpf* [02:54] oh no... :( i've hacked together a few patches for mol to let it compile... then i noticed that it needs gcc 3.4 (kernel stuff) and all patches could be dropped :( [02:55] not when it will move to gcc 4 :-) [02:55] upstream may be interested [02:55] ok, i'll mail them later ;) hmm will the kernel be built with 3.4 until breezy release? [02:55] <\sh> patching kdevelop3 [02:56] slomo, ask fabbione probably [02:56] ok [03:02] <\sh> comadreja: ping [03:02] <\sh> comadreja: I'd uploaded eyed3 with your patches [03:03] <\sh> comadreja: did u get any reply from katie? [03:06] ok, I switch project [03:07] I stay here for questions and uploads [03:08] <\sh> if anybody has time..please have a look on libhid, kwave (flac issues) [03:09] <\sh> for kwave: debian is using libflac6 we have libfacl7 as I recall [03:09] <\sh> libhid must use python2.4, and I don't come along with the autotools stuff in there [03:10] waahh... i destroyed the MOTUTOMerge wikipage ;) can someone tell me why it's broken? [03:10] <\sh> swig/Makefile.am is mentioning 2.3, replaced it 2.4, but any attempt to aclocal,automake,autoconf bla doesn't work === slomo is blind [03:12] \sh: pong yes, thanks ! [03:12] slomo, nothing much [03:12] \sh: I saw it on breezy-changes [03:13] <\sh> comadreja: hmm...i don't have the mail [03:13] <\sh> :( [03:13] \sh: I also sent patches for module-assistant [03:13] slomo, remove the newline you introduced in your own line [03:13] \sh: is that mailing list katie ? [03:13] <\sh> comadreja: no..katie is for upload [03:13] herve: thanks :) [03:13] <\sh> breezy-changes when it's going to the buildd [03:13] <\sh> comadreja: check the katie reply [03:13] \sh: then I didn't receive katie's mail [03:14] <\sh> comadreja: can u check breezy changes again? [03:14] \sh: sure [03:14] <\sh> argl [03:14] <\sh> it can't go through [03:15] \sh: now I can't find it... maybe I'm mistaken [03:15] <\sh> i didn't do a source uploda [03:15] <\sh> upload even [03:16] hehe, I made the mistake too [03:16] <\sh> but now [03:16] herve: when you're searching for stuff you can upload... look at mine ;) [03:16] mol and the like? [03:17] yes... and the rest of the line ;) but leave tomboy and monodevelop alone, i think tseng wants to look at them (and for monodevelop the boo sync is required) [03:18] I would have left the mono stuff anyway :-) [03:22] <\sh> Accepted eyed3 0.6.6-1ubuntu1 (source) [03:22] <\sh> yay === bddebian [~bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:25] Morning [03:25] bddebian: good morning :) you've forgotten to add pymol to MOTUToMerge ;) i've done that for you :P [03:26] <\sh> slomo: have an eye on http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html [03:26] I did about 5 or 6 last night. Are we supposed to be adding them to MOTUToMerge?? I was just tagging the bugs as pendingupload. [03:27] bddebian: no idea... i do both for my stuff [03:27] \sh: this is nicer: http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/buildlogs/ :) [03:27] :) === bddebian is always so confused.. :-) [03:27] <\sh> aeh [03:27] <\sh> damn [03:27] <\sh> comadreja: i mean [03:28] bddebian: no, that can't be... it's my job to be confused :) [03:28] hello bddebian [03:28] Heya herve [03:28] I probably should add them to MOTUToMerge since there is no "good" way to see what I have already done with bugzilla [03:30] bddebian, there is ;) [03:31] bddebian, just take the tinyurl list, click on "edit search" and select only the pending ones.... [03:31] like thet: [03:31] https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&component=UNKNOWN&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=PENDINGUPLOAD&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chf [03:31] ieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=product&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=merging&field0-0-1=component&type0-0-1=substring&value0-0-1=merging&field0-0-2=short_desc&type0-0-2=substring&value0-0-2=merging&field0-0-3=status_whiteboard&type0-0-3=substring&value0-0-3=merging [03:31] whee, thats long... [03:31] sorry :) [03:31] <\sh> lol [03:32] w00t [03:32] :-) [03:33] http://tinyurl.com/du8re [03:33] :) [03:33] thats the pending list [03:33] the longuest query in the west -:) [03:35] i can't believe the logs are still crammed with bogofilter failings [03:35] ogra: I added the url to MOTUToMerge [03:36] thanks :) [03:36] Amaranth: thats because of http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12536 [03:36] hey guys. I'm not sure this is the right place to ask for this, but I'm trying to create a new package, and every tutorial I read talk about dh_make, which doesn't seem to have any installation candidate on hoary [03:36] is there something I'm supposed to use instead of dh_make? [03:36] devscripts [03:36] OK damnit, who is updating MOTUToMerge?? :-) [03:36] for tomboy [03:36] hey salgado btw :)# [03:36] i think elmo can just sync it [03:37] salgado: apt-get install dh-make ;) [03:37] yo ogra. how's it going? [03:37] BTW, anyone know why debdiff is b0rked all of the sudden? [03:37] siretart: it's been 2 weeks since you filed that though... [03:37] salgado, edubuntu is drawing all my time :) [03:37] Amaranth: I know, but I cannot fix that bug myself [03:38] i mailed elmo to sync tomboy [03:38] MD needs manual [03:38] Amaranth: I don't know what to do else about it [03:38] after boo [03:38] its also in main [03:38] siretart: annoy people until they fix it :) [03:38] slomo, I don't seem to be able to do that in any hoary system I have access (it can't find any installation candidate) [03:39] its dh-make not dh_make [03:39] dh-make - Debianizing Tool for debhelper === jamessan|laptop [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] while the binary is called dh_make onec its installed [03:40] tseng, then that means something is broken here [03:40] maybe it's in universe and you don't have the source list [03:40] slomo: Fix debdiff will ya?? :-) [03:40] Package dh-make is not available, but is referred to by another package. [03:40] bddebian: what are you talking about? ;) [03:40] <\sh> yay...ymca is playin in the back....and kdevelop3 is building...does it mean kde is gay? ,-) [03:41] bddebian, install latest devscripts from debian and you're set [03:41] salgado: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources has also a lot of interesting links for you, I think [03:41] herve, dh_make ? in universe ? [03:41] no s [03:41] just making suggestions :-) [03:41] siretart, yep, I'm looking there === salgado looks for dh-make on hir breezy chroot [03:42] herve: Really? I upgraded last night and it still pukes on me.. :-( [03:42] it's there [03:42] ACK, what am I doing to MOTUToMerge???? [03:43] bddebian: hehe, same happened to me a few minutes ago ;) remove the newline you've inserted... at least that was my mistake [03:43] this is what you get on shared-root machines; someone fucked up my sources.list [03:43] phew [03:44] Hmm, maybe I haven't been as busy as I thought :-( [03:47] salgado, worst case, pluu it from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/devel/dh-make and install with dpkg -i [03:47] s/pluu/pull [03:48] thanks ogra. I fixed the sources.list and now it's installable. :) [03:48] ah, great :) [03:48] herve: Ohh, you said from Debian for devscripts. Missed that part [03:48] yes, latest unstable [03:48] Maybe some nice MOTU should upload that.. ;-) [03:49] herve: can we sync that for breezy? [03:49] it's probably in main as ogra told [03:49] Oh yeah [03:49] I saw ftbfs on some archs with the debian package [03:49] or maybe just some debian buildds are down [03:53] <\sh> i did it... [03:53] <\sh> oh god..what did I du [03:53] <\sh> s/du/do/ [03:55] <\sh> ogra: your fault [03:55] <\sh> gna [03:57] Do we have the source for the new devscripts in the archive? === StoneTable [~stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:59] no [04:04] Well get to work people!! ;-) [04:05] a ubuntu hurd distro, you call that work? :-) [04:06] herve: Well I'm looking at MOTUToMerge atm but I wanna get going on GNU/Hurd :-) [04:13] does anyone know how to use iptables to forward one port to another [04:14] i want to run ssh on port 22 [04:14] and be able to get it at 443 also [04:14] tseng: add a line in sshd_config, no need for iptables [04:14] it can listen to both? [04:14] tseng: $IPT -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i $ext --dport $port -j DNAT --to localhost:$port [04:14] tseng: that should work ;) [04:15] tseng: jepp [04:15] i use port 443 to trick the proxy at work [04:15] holy crap, thanks siretart [04:15] slomo: then iptables would not be able to accept requests on port 22 [04:15] (and slomo) [04:16] nm [04:16] siretart: why? [04:17] slomo: on the second thought, never mind ;) === siretart dizzy === slomo goes shopping now ;) [04:21] slomo: Oh no, you have work to do.. :-) [04:23] bddebian: sure... but without something to eat i can't work tomorrow :P === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@info1-159.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:25] slomo: Ah, good point :-) [04:27] <\sh> ok..another build of kdevelop3 before upload [04:29] I keep meaning to try kdevelop [04:33] bddebian, can I go to the bathroom? [04:36] herve, you go to bddebian's bathroom ? [04:37] no, I wait for his approval === herve is scared (and a bit fidgety) [04:37] I suppose. But you have 5 minutes :-) === herve runs! [04:38] bddebian, come on, give him approval before his chair gets wet [04:38] heh :) [04:39] Holy crap octave2.1 is taking forever to build.. :-( [04:39] <\sh> bddebian: what r u doing? octave2.1? [04:39] <\sh> *lol* [04:40] I am working on MOTUToMerge. Should I not be? [04:40] <\sh> bddebian: no its ok..please patch :) [04:40] The only dropped patches were a build-dep and update Standards version [04:42] <\sh> bddebian: no..if the build failes. you have to patch :) [04:43] No I don't, I'm just a slave, not an MOTU ;-P [04:43] j/k So far it's building it is just taking a while. :-) [04:58] <\sh> herve: i just read the backlog...what did u say? I supposed to be in the laptop team? ah come on :) I just requested a HP BladeCenter for the other two transitions ,-) [04:58] I just read the wiki page [04:59] <\sh> I'm just on this page... [04:59] <\sh> herve: which one? [04:59] <\sh> LaptopTesting? [04:59] no, there was Team in the name [05:00] <\sh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam [05:00] <\sh> ? [05:00] yep [05:00] <\sh> ah..from this page the people were choosen [05:01] right [05:01] I'm not sure [05:01] <\sh> it doesn't mean, that someone will be on for those laptops... [05:01] i received a confirmation email last night [05:01] I don't see siretart for instance [05:02] im not on that page [05:02] should I be? [05:03] <\sh> is siretart in? [05:03] tseng: i think you should you deserve one [05:03] jsgotangco: well, i already got the email [05:04] <\sh> laptop testing is a hard jo [05:04] yeah, especially with a dell [05:04] and worst with a compaq [05:04] ouch no compaq please...i'd rather settle with my crappy taiwan no name unit [05:04] <\sh> well..I think I deleted this mail ,-) [05:05] i asked about ppc/amd64 kit awhile back [05:05] they'll give you an acer hah *joke* [05:05] nah :P [05:06] i saw this ridiculously priced acer ferrari with carbon fiber last night [05:06] yeah [05:06] the Sun guys have them [05:07] jsgotangco, dont but it ! [05:07] hehe [05:07] ogra: no way, after your warning before... [05:07] jsgotangco, i have the cheap version of it, its the crappiest HW i ever had [05:07] though the ferrari might have a better keyboard [05:07] nice paint job though...as if i have to wax a laptop [05:08] heh [05:08] <\sh> ogra: if you don't need it..give it to me..i can create a buildd [05:08] <\sh> ,-) [05:08] \sh, if i dont use it as laptop i can do that too ;) [05:09] <\sh> ogra: please provide a chroot, pbuilder and login ,-) [05:09] currently it still has the amd64 advantage... i wont give it up yet :) [05:09] <\sh> I just calculated. === bddebian thinks someone needs to send him a Power4 RS/6000 or Smash-n-toss G5 to test with.. ;-P [05:09] \sh, haha... vial mobile link if i'm travelling ? [05:09] s/vial/via [05:10] <\sh> i'm just working 1 1/2 years for ISH...after another 1 1/2 years it's time to change the company again [05:10] <\sh> so new company, I hope there will be a new laptop ,-) [05:10] \sh, every time is a good time to leave ISH ;) [05:10] <\sh> ogra: but not without a new job, dear :) [05:11] <\sh> ogra: or are u proposing me a room in your house, where I can live for free? ,-) [05:11] \sh, depends, withot job you wont have to pay your ex :) [05:11] <\sh> ogra: yeah..but without a jon I can't pay my flat [05:11] heh [05:12] <\sh> job [05:12] \sh, you could try to share the cellar with my mental ill landlord, but i doubt that will be fun :) [05:12] <\sh> is missing [05:12] http://tseng2.ath.cx:3000/admin [05:12] ruby on rails > * [05:12] so far that app has < 10 lines of code I wrote [05:12] <\sh> ogra: oh no..forget it.. [05:12] tseng, so take over maintainershoip [05:12] ogra: i asked elmo to sync it === ogra is most annoyed by all the ruby stuff [05:12] ogra: i tested the debian version [05:13] there was a guy in here who wanted to be maintainer of rails stuff [05:13] <\sh> ogra: behappy, that there r no "VisualBasicForLinux" freaks ,-) [05:13] i havent seen him again [05:13] tseng, we still have no MOTU for the ubuntu maintenance [05:13] ogra: the debian maintainer is fast + good [05:13] we just need syncs now [05:14] i am watching it casually [05:14] tseng, but makes crappy split ruby packages according to allthe complaints [05:14] hm i dont want ruby core [05:14] and i'm not after repackaging it === tseng neither [05:14] exactly [05:14] i will make sure rails stays up to date and working [05:14] thats about it [05:17] btw, the art team is after getting gnome-art in.... anybody interested in maintaining a ruby gtk app ? [05:17] Crap, octave2.1 is taking FOREVER. I gotta go get some honey-do's done before she gets home.. :-) [05:20] <\sh> bddebian: same for kdevelop3 [05:20] <\sh> it's building here since 2 h === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:22] \sh: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/byDate/today.html is also interesting [05:23] <\sh> lamont: purpose of Test? [05:23] \sh, complete autorebuild of the archive [05:23] <\sh> aye [05:24] yeah [05:24] atm, it just has main in it. [05:24] should get universe sometime soonish [05:24] <\sh> lamont: w8 with universe until the last merges are done and the rest of the transitions... [05:25] reee [05:25] <\sh> after all...please have a look: libhid, kwave (MoM Merges) ,-) [05:25] \sh: it'll just be run over and over and over and over [05:26] \sh: the big thing that autotest is catching is things that we ahve binaries in the archive, but can't rebuild them. [05:26] <\sh> I think this is my hp bladecenter what i requested? ,-) [05:26] ok time for me to sleep, good night everyone [05:26] nigh jsgotangco [05:26] bye jsgotangco === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-206-191-39-90.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] <\sh> night jsgotangco === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:31] siretart: thanks for uploading the linkchecker package :) === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:36] OK, octave2.1 is done === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:38] tseng: does the new mono include the debugger? [05:42] slomo: no the debugger is a seperate package [05:42] and is kind of WIP [05:42] tseng: is it somewhere in breezy? would be nice to enable it in monodevelop ;) [05:42] no === mitsuhiko [~blackbird@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:46] <\sh> oh no [05:48] <\sh> libXcursor... [05:48] <\sh> damn [05:48] <\sh> again [05:51] <\sh> rebuild [05:54] \sh: what packages were bugging you? libhid... and? === ogra [~ogra@p5089F159.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:57] <\sh> kwave [05:57] <\sh> libhid i have the solution what to do..but autotools is bugging me [05:57] <\sh> kwave: debian is using libflac6 and we have libflac7 and this is bugging me as well... [05:58] ok, you do libhid and i look at kwave ;) [05:58] <\sh> libhid i'M too stupid for it...or automake doesn't like me [05:59] hmm... what's exactly the problem? [06:01] <\sh> in the swig dir...exchange in Makefile.am python2.3 dir with python2.4 [06:01] <\sh> after that, I have to rebuild the files with aclocal automake autoconf..but it doesn't work [06:01] <\sh> neither in chroot nor in rules files [06:08] \sh: just change it in Makefile.am and Makefile.in ;) [06:08] <\sh> this is not the right solution... [06:09] ogra, is there a hard fast date for all these main inclusion reports. Is it fine if I work on them over the next week? [06:10] feature freeze is august 11th, until then they should be finished === _mitsuhiko [~blackbird@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:12] \sh: yes, that's not the cleanest solution but it will work until autoreconf works again ;) and the old patch in libhid which can't be applied does exactly the same [06:12] ogra, ok [06:13] slomo: do you have access to ppc hardware and could try building qemu for ppc? [06:14] siretart: sure... i can try on my ibook [06:14] slomo: http://bugs.debian.org/319527 has the patch in question [06:15] it's not urgent, merges are way more important [06:15] siretart: i'm multitasking capable ;) what patch do you mean? isn't this the same patch as you've uploaded? [06:16] slomo: the latest message mentions http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2005-06/msg00004.html [06:17] hm seems to be the solution for the problem i had yesterday [06:17] ah, the latest posts are only on my inbox, and not yet on http://bugs.debian.org/319527 === warthylog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | for reviewing (NEW or updated)? go here: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ | First priority: MERGING , deadline was 2005-07-21 buglist: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge | http://wiki.debian.net/?EtchSlang2upgrade === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by ogra at Fri Jul 22 15:12:04 2005 [07:23] <\sh> slomo: offlineimap? [07:23] \sh: yes? [07:24] <\sh> uploaded? i just read the buglist... [07:24] <\sh> don't find it [07:25] \sh: no... not uploaded but can be uploaded ;) [07:25] <\sh> ah [07:25] <\sh> Just upload the mom-merged version... seems fine [07:25] <\sh> it's a bit strange;) [07:25] hehe... that's just a request for uploading ;) [07:26] OK darn it. I just made a small two line change to config.guess and when I do diff -Nurp /foo.old/bar /foo/bar I get much more than just the two lines I changed. What gives? [07:27] bddebian: is config.{sub,guess} included in the diff? [07:27] slomo: It is config.guess yes [07:28] ok... i don't know what to do then ;) you can just delete the config.guess stuff from the diff... or add your changes to clean sources ;) === bddebian jumps off a cliff [07:29] <\sh> offlineimap uploaded [07:31] \sh: i'm currently converting kwave to the new flac... can you please run and test it when i'm finished? i have no kde installed [07:32] <\sh> slomo: sure...send me the patches. [07:32] <\sh> sh at sourcecode.de ;) [07:32] <\sh> or put them into the bug entry [07:32] ok [07:32] but i think i don't have enough time this evening... will finish it tomorrow [07:32] <\sh> no pro [07:32] <\sh> b === MagnusR [~magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Chand [~chand@ABordeaux-151-1-15-9.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:40] w00t, /me breaks the 10 packages mark. Though I swear I am missing some packages that I already re-built??? === bddebian is vying for ogra love.. :-) === ogra hugs bddebian [07:47] <\sh> gatos uploaded [07:52] <\sh> ok..uploading time today...i don't have luck today with patching source [07:53] \sh: thanks :) i think i understood all changes in the flac++ api... you get the patch tomorrow, i'm out this evening ;) [07:53] To test more packages or not to test.. That is the question [07:53] <\sh> slomo: u rock...I don't have any clue about flac [07:54] <\sh> mol uploaded [07:55] \sh: i've known only the C api... but fortunatly the c++ api is almost identical, just everything wrapped in nice classes :) [07:57] Something doesn't look right with hardware monitor. apt-get source doesn't get an ubuntuX version but MOM says ubuntu2 ?? [07:58] hmm... why is bogofilter built over and over again and fails every time? [07:59] <\sh> bddebian: hmmm [08:00] <\sh> bddebian: u sure octave2.1 build ok? [08:00] \sh: Worked for me(tm) [08:00] <\sh> cause debuild -S tells me something else === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:00] <\sh> all patches are failing [08:01] <\sh> and why nobody is assigning the bugs to themselfs *grrr* [08:02] \sh: All what patches? [08:02] I don't assign the bugs to myself because I am not an MOTU [08:02] <\sh> bddebian: and? now octave2.1 is yours...also in bugzilla...please have a look thx :) [08:03] <\sh> bddebian: if you're working on a package..it's nice to assign it to you, so we can have a look what work u have done..:) [08:04] \sh: OK, I just thought that was bad since I wasn't MOTU? [08:04] <\sh> bddebian: also important to put a nice link on your wiki ,-) [08:04] <\sh> bddebian: come on..stop with this MOTU stuff...to fix bugs u don't need to be motu :) === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:04] \sh: This is on i386? [08:04] <\sh> bddebian: debuild -S works also on amd64 ,-) [08:05] <\sh> and patches are applied on all archs :) [08:05] \sh: I am not saying that to be sarcastic, I just didn't think it was appropriate. [08:06] <\sh> bddebian: i'm not sarcastic :) I'm just trying to get u a nice list of bugs..so you can tell anybody: u see, i did this and that...:) [08:06] Ahh :-) [08:06] <\sh> bddebian: and the infos are in the entry https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12413 [08:07] \sh: You just did apt-get source and then debuild -S ?? [08:07] <\sh> bddebian: no..I just took the merge sources [08:07] <\sh> got it from scotts page.. [08:07] <\sh> appropriate way [08:07] Damnit, this is what I keep asking [08:07] Grr [08:07] <\sh> apt-get source is "the actual source" [08:08] <\sh> in the archives [08:08] <\sh> and I know this builds.. [08:08] I know, which is why I kept asking if that is the appropriate way. I might as well start over. [08:08] <\sh> bddebian: ok...some infos... [08:08] <\sh> try first the sources from scotts page [08:09] <\sh> if this is not working out properly...take debian source [08:09] Getting them how? With wget or some such? [08:09] <\sh> and try to apply all the patches dropped by ubuntu === mitsuhiko [~blackbird@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:09] <\sh> wget sure [08:10] \sh: i have a compiling version of the kwave flac plugin... BUT i don't think it's right at one position... will look at the flac sources ;) what a bad documentation... [08:10] Any better suggestions than wget, sinc wget won't do wildcards?? :-) [08:10] <\sh> bddebian: right mouse click-> copy link address [08:10] <\sh> and then wget "" [08:10] <\sh> in your fav. console [08:10] <\sh> easy [08:10] <\sh> fast [08:10] <\sh> reliable [08:11] :-) OK === bddebian feels like a fucking idiot as usual [08:11] <\sh> bddebian: u r not..I know it...I know how u feel, friend :) [08:13] \sh: Do you usually just dpkg -x the dsc? [08:14] <\sh> yepp [08:16] dpkg -x wants a target directory?? [08:16] <\sh> dpkg-source -x [08:16] Ohh duh [08:20] Ahh, now it pukes. Gee thanks \sh. ;-) [08:20] \sh: you've mail... please test :) this looks really weird but it seems that this is the right way... [08:21] <\sh> slomo: kwave? [08:21] yes [08:21] <\sh> thx :) will check it later..not today anymore :( [08:23] ok, please query me when you test it... or write a mail :) the critical part is the vendor string of the vorbis comments in flac files... just check if they get displayed correctly [08:25] bye bye :) i'll be back tomorrow [08:25] Bye slomo. You still ROCK ;-) [08:43] Shoot, the Debian version of octave doesn't choke like that.. :-( [08:43] <\sh> ok..trying again to fix kdevelop3 [08:44] <\sh> it's not the debian version...it's a mix of debian and ubuntu [08:44] <\sh> to get the debian version directly: packages.debian.org and then unstable ,-) [08:45] \sh: I know, I did and it doesn't choke on the patches the way the Ubuntu version does :-( [08:46] <\sh> bddebian: the mom version is a mix of debian upstream and ubuntu [08:47] <\sh> bddebian: so..check debian if it's working..and try to apply the dropped patches of ubuntu ,) [08:47] Aye. There are not dropped patches of ubuntu, just debian and they are just build-deps and standards version :-( [08:48] Interesting. The 01_gcc4.patch has 2.1.69.. [08:48] <\sh> hmm... [08:49] <\sh> remove it temporarily [08:50] Building now.. [08:51] debuild -S works. Trying debuild -us -tc === {Seb} [~{Seb}@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:55] <\sh> bddebian: please build it until the end in a pbuilder.. [08:55] <\sh> to check if it has no gcc4 issues anymore [08:55] <{Seb}> hi people [08:56] <{Seb}> i would love to help out with ubuntu [08:56] <{Seb}> and someone told me to come here [08:58] {Seb}: What kind of help do you want to do? There are many ways to help. [08:59] Not that I personally am any help :-) [08:59] <{Seb}> not too sure, what 'positions' are available? [08:59] I mean do you want to help new users, document, fix bugs, build-packages, what?? [09:00] <{Seb}> i couldn't fix packages [09:01] <{Seb}> i've had experience with documentation\ [09:01] <{Seb}> done stuff for hula and beagle [09:03] {Seb}: Well you could check out the doc team on the wiki, or the NuN (New User Network) is trying to do some docs for n00bs. Their wiki is here: v [09:03] <\sh> {Seb}: check topic..https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge 1. prio...check packages from MoM [09:03] Do [09:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserNetwork [09:09] <\sh> ok...I'm gone..need some sleep === {Seb} [~{Seb}@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === MagnusR [~magru@85.194.14.142] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === mitsuhiko [~blackbird@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:54] morning all! [10:54] hey ajmitch :) [10:54] good to see the merge bug list slowly creeping down [10:54] indeed [10:57] zzz... hu? [10:57] hey herve [10:57] not asleep yet? :) [10:58] it's just 23h here :-) === rem_ [~rem@adsl-169-48-bs1.datacomm.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:25] someone has a version of tla > 1.3.3 ? 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