[12:13] <niran> anyone with some autotools knowledge want to help me fix some things?
[12:13] <niran> i'm trying to get out a release of gnome-app-install, but i don't know how to configure everything
[12:14] <niran> which i'll eventually learn, but i'd like to get it out there before i do that :)
[12:17] <sistpoty> niran: what's your problem?
[12:23] <niran> sistpoty, well, the original program was already set up to use autotools, but i've added files and folders and i'm not sure what i need to change
[12:23] <niran> or what to put in a Makefile.am
[12:25] <sistpoty> niran: for each new subdir, you need to put that after "SUBDIRS" into Makefile.am of the parent folder
[12:28] <niran> that's it?
[12:28] <sistpoty> not yet...
[12:28] <sistpoty> gnome-app-install is python?
[12:28] <niran> right
[12:29] <sistpoty> hm... sorry, but I don't know the automake-stuff for python... i could explain you some things for c if that would help
[12:30] <sistpoty> basically for c you could build a binary with yourtargetbinary_SOURCES=cfile1.c cfile2.c (and so on)
[12:31] <sistpoty> i assume, that for python some similar macros will exist
[12:32] <sistpoty> after you setup the .am-files, you need to run: aclocal, autoconf and automake, then you can call configure to build the actual makefiles
[12:32] <niran> hm, ok
[12:36] <sistpoty2> sorry, 24h-disconnect :/
[12:41] <herve> night all!
[01:09] <ajmitch> morning
[01:53] <tseng> how can i force dpkg to install missing config files
[01:54] <tseng> --force-confmiss is not helping much
[03:56] <bddebian> Wake up people, there's hackin' to be done! :-)
[04:39] <bddebian> Anyone awake?
[04:40] <ajmitch> nope
[04:40] <bddebian> ajmitch!!!
[04:41] <ajmitch> yes?
[04:41] <bddebian> ajmitch: Hi.  Do you know much about the MOM stuff?
[04:43] <ajmitch> hello
[04:43] <ajmitch> I know a little bit
[04:44] <bddebian> NM, I think I figured it out.  Regardless of whether it's Debian-dropped or Ubuntu-dropped, they need to be added manually if missing right?
[04:48] <ajmitch> yeah, if needed
[04:52] <bddebian> OK, thx, sorry to bother you
[05:10] <bddebian> I really wish someone would check all this work I'm doing.  I hope I am "helping" and not causing someone more work.. :-)
[05:30] <bddebian> Damn, debdiff is b0rked for me now too
[05:37] <bddebian> ajmitch: Where the hell is everyone tonight???
[05:42] <ajmitch> no idea
[06:31] <bddebian> Damn, I need my debdiff back... :'-(
[06:41] <tseng> hi ajmitch
[06:41] <tseng> just upload mono 1.1.8.2
[06:41] <tseng> might be the last big update.
[06:42] <bddebian> tseng: I know you seem to hate me but could you do me a favor?
[06:42] <tseng> what kind of favor
[06:43] <bddebian> Just look at a few of the bugs I have marked as uploadpending on bugzilla to make sure I am not causing someone else more work?
[06:43] <tseng> i dont hate you, you just have a poor signal/noise ratio
[06:43] <tseng> im not a patient person
[06:43] <tseng> ignore it :)
[06:44] <tseng> ok what bugs please
[06:44] <Burgundavia> tseng, have you been busy with RL?
[06:44] <tseng> Burgundavia: quite
[06:45] <Burgundavia> school?
[06:45] <tseng> work.
[06:45] <Burgundavia> ah
[06:45] <bddebian> 12562, 12561, 12489,12488, 12487.. That should be enough to see if I am causing problems
[06:45] <Burgundavia> ok, just haven't seen you
[06:45] <tseng> yep ive been barely on at all during the day
[06:45] <tseng> and scarce at night
[06:46] <Burgundavia> cheers
[06:47] <tseng> i cant seem to get the attachemnt on the first bug
[06:48] <tseng> hm you are doing a debdiff from the mom merged package to your package?
[06:48] <bddebian> tseng: Yeah, I screwed that one up.  Loaded it as octet-stream instead of text
[06:48] <tseng> im looking at 12561 now
[06:49] <tseng> i have a feeling you intended to debdiff mom-merge + bd work back to the previous ubuntu version
[06:49] <tseng> but it looks like you debdiffed to mom
[06:49] <tseng> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/attachment.cgi?id=3052
[06:49] <tseng> just bumped changelog there
[06:50] <tseng> is that what you intended?
[06:51] <bddebian> tseng: There were some debian/control changes I made from debian-dropped
[06:51] <tseng> they are not reflected in the patches you are posting
[06:52] <tseng> it does indeed sound pretty helpful what you are trying to do
[06:52] <tseng> get the merge work done for motu ahead of time
[06:53] <bddebian> You are looking at 12561 right?
[06:53] <tseng> its just not making it across the wire.. double check your debdiff
[06:53] <tseng> 12561, then 12489
[06:53] <tseng> they both only touch debian/changelog
[06:53] <bddebian> Did you read the note on 12561?
[06:53] <tseng> yes
[06:53] <tseng> which is great
[06:53] <tseng> its just not actually in the diff
[06:53] <bddebian> Because I didn't change it.  I didn't apply that part of the patch.
[06:54] <tseng> hm oh
[06:54] <bddebian> If I would have manually added libjack0.100.0 it would break the package
[06:54] <tseng> yes, so mom already took ours rightly
[06:54] <tseng> i see
[06:54] <bddebian> Aye
[06:55] <tseng> then, the changelog bumps arent that helpful
[06:55] <tseng> but the reporting is
[06:55] <bddebian> I probably shouldn't have bothered doing a new version.  That was the first one I did
[06:55] <tseng> yep.
[06:55] <tseng> 12488 is nice
[06:55] <tseng> same thing slomo did for my bugs
[06:58] <tseng> Burgundavia: whats new?
[07:00] <bddebian> Fixed 12562 attachment
[07:00] <tseng> rock
[07:02] <Burgundavia> Burgundavia, not much. More work with docs. Job search
[07:02] <bddebian> And for 12489 it had hoary and I bumped to breezy.  Do I not need a ubuntu+ version for that either?
[07:02] <tseng> if you change something
[07:03] <tseng> you increase the version
[07:03] <tseng> always :)
[07:03] <bddebian> But you just said... ;-)
[07:03] <tseng> i said that the maintainer can easily run dch -i himself
[07:03] <bddebian> Sorry, I'll shut up now.  So is what I'm doing OK?  I want to help but I don't want to cause someone else more work?
[07:04] <tseng> but at that time he will increase the ubuntu version
[07:04] <tseng> it doesnt cause more work for anyone but you
[07:04] <bddebian> Thats good because I have already hit about 10-15 of them :-)
[07:04] <tseng> hm cool
[07:05] <bddebian> BTW, do you happen to know what is up with debdiff?  I upgraded and now it's b0rked
[07:05] <tseng> nope
[07:05] <tseng> sorry.
[07:06] <bddebian> How would I do it by hand?  Just copy the extracted dir and diff -Nurp?
[07:06] <tseng> eh
[07:06] <tseng> i remember the changes I make
[07:06] <tseng> i unpack the debian version and press Replay
[07:07] <tseng> and ignore extraneous bits
[07:07] <tseng> i dont recommend it
[07:07] <bddebian> OK.  Well thanks.  Time for me to hit the sack.  Hopefully I can hit some more tomorrow.
[07:08] <tseng> have a good one.
[07:08] <bddebian> You too, thanks.
[07:25] <ajmitch> hi tseng
[07:25] <ajmitch> good to hear about 1.18.2
[07:32] <ajmitch> tseng: any plans to try & get beagle 0.0.12 in past the UVF committee? or is the same gtk# api instability issue?
[07:51] <ajmitch> yay, new blam bug
[07:53] <Burgundavia> everybody loves blam
[07:58] <ajmitch> yep
[08:03] <ajmitch> at least I see the bug too, which makes it easier to track down
[10:10] <herve> morning
[10:15] <ajmitch> hi herve
[02:19] (ogra/#ubuntu-motu) herve, done
[02:19] (herve/#ubuntu-motu) thanks
[02:20] <slomo> hmm... what to do with a package which needs configured kernel sources?
[02:21] <ajmitch> slomo: usually just needs the kernel headers to build
[02:21] <ajmitch> like hostap
[02:23] <ivoks> ok guys...
[02:23] <ivoks> see you when i get back to zagreb
[02:24] <herve> bye
[02:24] <slomo> ajmitch: linux-kernel-headers? ok... and stuff which builds kernel modules must be built with gcc 3.4?
[02:24] <ajmitch> slomo: afaik, yep
[02:24] <ajmitch> ivoks: see you later
[02:25] <ivoks> images at http://master.grad.hr/~ivoks/summer2005 in couple of minutes :)
[02:29] <tseng> wow
[02:29] <tseng> that place is amazing
[02:31] <herve> slomo, I don't see why we can drop ubuntu for rss2email
[02:32] <herve> debian is still using python2.3
[02:32] <slomo> herve: Nafallo looked at rss2email... mine is the line under Nafallo's ;)
[02:32] <herve> whoops, sorry
[02:32] <herve> Nafallo? :-)
[02:33] <Nafallo> herve: I saw. About to look at the package again now.
[02:35] <ajmitch> time for me to sleep, see you tomorrow :)
[02:35] <slomo> yeah... fixed mol :) is here someone who wants to look at it in maybe 15 minutes?
[02:35] <\sh> *phew*
[02:35] <Nafallo> herve: python == python-2.4 in ubuntu. no need to declare all that stuff.
[02:35] <\sh> warm+ shopping + a lot of to carry == terrible
[02:36] <Mithrandir> heh :-)
[02:36] <slomo> \sh: where do you live? it's cold here ;)
[02:36] <herve> Nafallo, yes but... http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/rss2email
[02:36] <herve> asking for a version of Python we don't have
[02:36] <\sh> slomo: nrw :) kerpen
[02:37] <\sh> herve: which one? 2.2? put 2.4 in ,-)
[02:37] <slomo> \sh: i live also in nrw... detmold near bielefeld ;) and it's cold enough to work here :)
[02:38] <\sh> slomo: really? yesterday it was 15 degrees and windy
[02:38] <comadreja> howdy all
[02:38] <comadreja> hey I lived in Oberhausen for three years
[02:38] <\sh> slomo: btw..i worked near bielefeld :)
[02:38] <Nafallo> sh: that's why gothcat and Simira are out shopping and me and Mithrandir is on IRC :-)
[02:39] <\sh> so u send your irls shopping ?;)
[02:39] <slomo> \sh: you think 15 is too warm? oh ok ;) hm, i have to go shopping later, too :)
[02:39] <\sh> +g
[02:39] <\sh> slomo: no now it 25
[02:39] <herve> \sh, python >= 2.3 << 2.4
[02:39] <\sh> herve: replace it
[02:39] <herve> that's my point
[02:39] <herve> we need to merge again
[02:40] <slomo> \sh: it's 15,8 here :P
[02:40] <Nafallo> sh: they sent themselves ;-)
[02:40] <\sh> Nafallo: lol...women ;)
[02:40] <herve> now you tell it, 23 is not much here
[02:41] <herve> ok, I mailed elmo about the sync requests
[02:42] <\sh> herve: ping ogra for editbugs...he's on
[02:42] <eruin> does anyone in here know what's required for nm-vpn-properties to not complain about missing vpn software?
[02:42] <herve> \sh, he did it yes
[02:42] <ogra> \sh, herve already has editbugs
[02:42] <slomo> tseng: btw... i've mailed elmo about the boo sync request 2 days ago... there was no answer :/
[02:42] <Nafallo> eruin: I guess it should support vpnc, and only vpnc
[02:42] <\sh> slomo: i will give u a tip :) go to your favorite turkish restaurant..and order doener+lamacun extra hot'n'strong :)
[02:42] <herve> argh! I could have added it to the list
[02:42] <\sh> ogra: ah ok
[02:43] <eruin> Nafallo, hmm, I have that installed and it still complains about missing VPN software
[02:43] <tseng> slomo: oh. did you tell him i am sponsoring you?
[02:43] <eruin> Nafallo, should I report it as a bug?
[02:44] <slomo> tseng: yes
[02:44] <\sh> ogra: r u in for laptop mission?
[02:44] <slomo> \sh: thanks :) i'll do this evening... the next is just 3 minutes from here ;)
[02:45] <herve> my mistake!
[02:45] <Nafallo> eruin: probably :-)
[02:45] <herve> rss2email can smoothly move to python2.4
[02:45] <herve> there is no version dependency written in hard
[02:46] <herve> slomo, I'll ask for boo to
[02:46] <herve> too
[02:46] <siretart> what is elmo's email?
[02:46] <slomo> thanks :) he has answered on irc and said i should send him a mail
[02:47] <herve> I mail to james@canonical.com
[02:47] <Nafallo> herve: indeed.
[02:47] <ogra> \sh, seems not, i didnt get mail about it
[02:47] <Nafallo> I thought I built it :-P
[02:48] <\sh> ogra: hehe so we have to buy some other stuff ;)
[02:49] <ogra> \sh, i will  do that anyway, the keyboard of this thing here freaks me out
[02:49] <\sh> ogra: why? if you don't want it...you know my address *lol*
[02:50] <ogra> heh
[02:50] <\sh> jesus..
[02:50] <\sh> I ate too much
[02:51] <ogra> \sh, keyboard, only partial working DVD rom and case are the real drawbacks of this lappie... and sine i travel more, 3.5kg are not the best weight...
[02:51] <Amaranth> it's easier to request a sync in #u-d
[02:51] <ogra> since even...
[02:51] <ogra> Amaranth, but not the preferred way
[02:52] <\sh> ogra: so don't buy a hp 6120
[02:52] <Amaranth> ogra: All the canonical employees seem to do it except you. :)
[02:52] <\sh> ogra: it's heavy then mine nc6000
[02:52] <ogra> \sh, my next one will be a lot smaller
[02:52] <\sh> but nicer actually
[02:52] <ogra> Amaranth, i do it too, but the preferred wa is email nevertheless
[02:52] <ogra> way even
[02:52] <herve> I like my dell x300
[02:53] <ogra> \sh, as long as it doesnt swallow half of my typed stuff and is a bit lighter i'm fine
[02:53] <\sh> but at home I prefere a nice workstation with a good tft+crt
[02:54] <\sh> so I have to get to my ex that she has to give it back to me *grmpf*
[02:54] <slomo> oh no... :( i've hacked together a few patches for mol to let it compile... then i noticed that it needs gcc 3.4 (kernel stuff) and all patches could be dropped :(
[02:55] <herve> not when it will move to gcc 4 :-)
[02:55] <herve> upstream may be interested
[02:55] <slomo> ok, i'll mail them later ;) hmm will the kernel be built with 3.4 until breezy release?
[02:55] <\sh> patching kdevelop3
[02:56] <herve> slomo, ask fabbione probably
[02:56] <slomo> ok
[03:02] <\sh> comadreja: ping
[03:02] <\sh> comadreja: I'd uploaded eyed3 with your patches
[03:03] <\sh> comadreja: did u get any reply from katie?
[03:06] <herve> ok, I switch project
[03:07] <herve> I stay here for questions and uploads
[03:08] <\sh> if anybody has time..please have a look on libhid, kwave (flac issues)
[03:09] <\sh> for kwave: debian is using libflac6 we have libfacl7 as I recall
[03:09] <\sh> libhid must use python2.4, and I don't come along with the autotools stuff in there
[03:10] <slomo> waahh... i destroyed the MOTUTOMerge wikipage ;) can someone tell me why it's broken?
[03:10] <\sh> swig/Makefile.am is mentioning 2.3, replaced it 2.4, but any attempt to aclocal,automake,autoconf bla doesn't work
[03:12] <comadreja> \sh: pong yes, thanks !
[03:12] <herve> slomo, nothing much
[03:12] <comadreja> \sh: I saw it on breezy-changes
[03:13] <\sh> comadreja: hmm...i don't have the mail
[03:13] <\sh> :(
[03:13] <comadreja> \sh: I also sent patches for module-assistant
[03:13] <herve> slomo, remove the newline you introduced in your own line
[03:13] <comadreja> \sh: is that mailing list katie ?
[03:13] <\sh> comadreja: no..katie is for upload
[03:13] <slomo> herve: thanks :)
[03:13] <\sh> breezy-changes when it's going to the buildd
[03:13] <\sh> comadreja: check the katie reply
[03:13] <comadreja> \sh: then I didn't receive katie's mail
[03:14] <\sh> comadreja: can u check breezy changes again?
[03:14] <comadreja> \sh: sure
[03:14] <\sh> argl
[03:14] <\sh> it can't go through
[03:15] <comadreja> \sh: now I can't find it... maybe I'm mistaken
[03:15] <\sh> i didn't do a source uploda
[03:15] <\sh> upload even
[03:16] <herve> hehe, I made the mistake too
[03:16] <\sh> but now
[03:16] <slomo> herve: when you're searching for stuff you can upload... look at mine ;)
[03:16] <herve> mol and the like?
[03:17] <slomo> yes... and the rest of the line ;) but leave tomboy and monodevelop alone, i think tseng wants to look at them (and for monodevelop the boo sync is required)
[03:18] <herve> I would have left the mono stuff anyway :-)
[03:22] <\sh> Accepted eyed3 0.6.6-1ubuntu1 (source)
[03:22] <\sh> yay
[03:25] <bddebian> Morning
[03:25] <slomo> bddebian: good morning :) you've forgotten to add pymol to MOTUToMerge ;) i've done that for you :P
[03:26] <\sh> slomo: have an eye on http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html
[03:26] <bddebian> I did about 5 or 6 last night.  Are we supposed to be adding them to MOTUToMerge??  I was just tagging the bugs as pendingupload.
[03:27] <slomo> bddebian: no idea... i do both for my stuff
[03:27] <slomo> \sh: this is nicer: http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/buildlogs/  :)
[03:27] <comadreja> :)
[03:27] <\sh> aeh
[03:27] <\sh> damn
[03:27] <\sh> comadreja: i mean
[03:28] <slomo> bddebian: no, that can't be... it's my job to be confused :)
[03:28] <herve> hello bddebian
[03:28] <bddebian> Heya herve
[03:28] <bddebian> I probably should add them to MOTUToMerge since there is no "good" way to see what I have already done with bugzilla
[03:30] <ogra> bddebian, there is ;)
[03:31] <ogra> bddebian, just take the tinyurl list, click on "edit search" and select only the pending ones....
[03:31] <ogra> like thet:
[03:31] <ogra> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&component=UNKNOWN&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=PENDINGUPLOAD&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chf
[03:31] <ogra> ieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=product&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=merging&field0-0-1=component&type0-0-1=substring&value0-0-1=merging&field0-0-2=short_desc&type0-0-2=substring&value0-0-2=merging&field0-0-3=status_whiteboard&type0-0-3=substring&value0-0-3=merging
[03:31] <ogra> whee, thats long...
[03:31] <ogra> sorry :)
[03:31] <\sh> lol
[03:32] <bddebian> w00t
[03:32] <bddebian> :-)
[03:33] <ogra> http://tinyurl.com/du8re
[03:33] <ogra> :)
[03:33] <ogra> thats the pending list
[03:33] <herve> the longuest query in the west -:)
[03:35] <Amaranth> i can't believe the logs are still crammed with bogofilter failings
[03:35] <siretart> ogra: I added the url to MOTUToMerge
[03:36] <ogra> thanks :)
[03:36] <siretart> Amaranth: thats because of http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12536
[03:36] <salgado> hey guys. I'm not sure this is the right place to ask for this, but I'm trying to create a new package, and every tutorial I read talk about dh_make, which doesn't seem to have any installation candidate on hoary
[03:36] <salgado> is there something I'm supposed to use instead of dh_make?
[03:36] <ogra> devscripts
[03:36] <bddebian> OK damnit, who is updating MOTUToMerge?? :-)
[03:36] <tseng> for tomboy
[03:36] <ogra> hey salgado btw :)#
[03:36] <tseng> i think elmo can just sync it
[03:37] <slomo> salgado: apt-get install dh-make ;)
[03:37] <salgado> yo ogra. how's it going?
[03:37] <bddebian> BTW, anyone know why debdiff is b0rked all of the sudden?
[03:37] <Amaranth> siretart: it's been 2 weeks since you filed that though...
[03:37] <ogra> salgado, edubuntu is drawing all my time :)
[03:37] <siretart> Amaranth: I know, but I cannot fix that bug myself
[03:38] <tseng> i mailed elmo to sync tomboy
[03:38] <tseng> MD needs manual
[03:38] <siretart> Amaranth: I don't know what to do else about it
[03:38] <tseng> after boo
[03:38] <tseng> its also in main
[03:38] <Amaranth> siretart: annoy people until they fix it :)
[03:38] <salgado> slomo, I don't seem to be able to do that in any hoary system I have access (it can't find any installation candidate)
[03:39] <tseng> its dh-make not dh_make
[03:39] <tseng> dh-make - Debianizing Tool for debhelper
[03:40] <ogra> while the binary is called dh_make onec its installed
[03:40] <salgado> tseng, then that means something is broken here
[03:40] <herve> maybe it's in universe and you don't have the source list
[03:40] <bddebian> slomo: Fix debdiff will ya?? :-)
[03:40] <salgado> Package dh-make is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:40] <slomo> bddebian: what are you talking about? ;)
[03:40] <\sh> yay...ymca is playin in the back....and kdevelop3 is building...does it mean kde is gay? ,-)
[03:41] <herve> bddebian, install latest devscripts from debian and you're set
[03:41] <siretart> salgado: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources has also a lot of interesting links for you, I think
[03:41] <ogra> herve, dh_make ? in universe ?
[03:41] <herve> no s
[03:41] <herve> just making suggestions :-)
[03:41] <salgado> siretart, yep, I'm looking there
[03:42] <bddebian> herve: Really?  I upgraded last night and it still pukes on me.. :-(
[03:42] <salgado> it's there
[03:42] <bddebian> ACK, what am I doing to MOTUToMerge????
[03:43] <slomo> bddebian: hehe, same happened to me a few minutes ago ;) remove the newline you've inserted... at least that was my mistake
[03:43] <salgado> this is what you get on shared-root machines; someone fucked up my sources.list
[03:43] <bddebian> phew
[03:44] <bddebian> Hmm, maybe I haven't been as busy as I thought :-(
[03:47] <ogra> salgado, worst case, pluu it from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/devel/dh-make and install with dpkg -i
[03:47] <ogra> s/pluu/pull
[03:48] <salgado> thanks ogra. I fixed the sources.list and now it's installable. :)
[03:48] <ogra> ah, great :)
[03:48] <bddebian> herve: Ohh, you said from Debian for devscripts.  Missed that part
[03:48] <herve> yes, latest unstable
[03:48] <bddebian> Maybe some nice MOTU should upload that.. ;-)
[03:49] <slomo> herve: can we sync that for breezy?
[03:49] <herve> it's probably in main as ogra told
[03:49] <bddebian> Oh yeah
[03:49] <herve> I saw ftbfs on some archs with the debian package
[03:49] <herve> or maybe just some debian buildds are down
[03:53] <\sh> i did it...
[03:53] <\sh> oh god..what did I du
[03:53] <\sh> s/du/do/
[03:55] <\sh> ogra: your fault
[03:55] <\sh> gna
[03:57] <bddebian> Do we have the source for the new devscripts in the archive?
[03:59] <herve> no
[04:04] <bddebian> Well get to work people!! ;-)
[04:05] <herve> a ubuntu hurd distro, you call that work? :-)
[04:06] <bddebian> herve: Well I'm looking at MOTUToMerge atm but I wanna get going on GNU/Hurd :-)
[04:13] <tseng> does anyone know how to use iptables to forward one port to another
[04:14] <tseng> i want to run ssh on port 22
[04:14] <tseng> and be able to get it at 443 also
[04:14] <siretart> tseng: add a line in sshd_config, no need for iptables
[04:14] <tseng> it can listen to both?
[04:14] <slomo> tseng: $IPT -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i $ext --dport $port -j DNAT --to localhost:$port
[04:14] <slomo> tseng: that should work ;)
[04:15] <siretart> tseng: jepp
[04:15] <tseng> i use port 443 to trick the proxy at work
[04:15] <tseng> holy crap, thanks siretart
[04:15] <siretart> slomo: then iptables would not be able to accept requests on port 22
[04:15] <tseng> (and slomo)
[04:16] <siretart> nm
[04:16] <slomo> siretart: why?
[04:17] <siretart> slomo: on the second thought, never mind ;)
[04:21] <bddebian> slomo: Oh no, you have work to do.. :-)
[04:23] <slomo> bddebian: sure... but without something to eat i can't work tomorrow :P
[04:25] <bddebian> slomo: Ah, good point :-)
[04:27] <\sh> ok..another build of kdevelop3 before upload
[04:29] <bddebian> I keep meaning to try kdevelop
[04:33] <herve> bddebian, can I go to the bathroom?
[04:36] <ogra> herve, you go to bddebian's bathroom ?
[04:37] <herve> no, I wait for his approval
[04:37] <bddebian> I suppose.  But you have 5 minutes :-)
[04:38] <ogra> bddebian, come on, give him approval before his chair gets wet
[04:38] <ogra> heh :)
[04:39] <bddebian> Holy crap octave2.1 is taking forever to build.. :-(
[04:39] <\sh> bddebian: what r u doing? octave2.1?
[04:39] <\sh> *lol*
[04:40] <bddebian> I am working on MOTUToMerge.  Should I not be?
[04:40] <\sh> bddebian: no its ok..please patch :)
[04:40] <bddebian> The only dropped patches were a build-dep and update Standards version
[04:42] <\sh> bddebian: no..if the build failes. you have to patch :)
[04:43] <bddebian> No I don't, I'm just a slave, not an MOTU ;-P
[04:43] <bddebian> j/k So far it's building it is just taking a while. :-)
[04:58] <\sh> herve: i just read the backlog...what did u say? I supposed to be in the laptop team? ah come on :) I just requested a HP BladeCenter for the other two transitions ,-)
[04:58] <herve> I just read the wiki page
[04:59] <\sh> I'm just on this page...
[04:59] <\sh> herve: which one?
[04:59] <\sh> LaptopTesting?
[04:59] <herve> no, there was Team in the name
[05:00] <\sh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[05:00] <\sh> ?
[05:00] <herve> yep
[05:00] <\sh> ah..from this page the people were choosen
[05:01] <jsgotangco> right
[05:01] <herve> I'm not sure
[05:01] <\sh> it doesn't mean, that someone will be on for those laptops...
[05:01] <jsgotangco> i received a confirmation email last night
[05:01] <herve> I don't see siretart for instance
[05:02] <tseng> im not on that page
[05:02] <tseng> should I be?
[05:03] <\sh> is siretart in?
[05:03] <jsgotangco> tseng: i think you should you deserve one
[05:03] <tseng> jsgotangco: well, i already got the email
[05:04] <\sh> laptop testing is a hard jo
[05:04] <herve> yeah, especially with a dell
[05:04] <herve> and worst with a compaq
[05:04] <jsgotangco> ouch no compaq please...i'd rather settle with my crappy taiwan no name unit
[05:04] <\sh> well..I think I deleted this mail ,-)
[05:05] <tseng> i asked about ppc/amd64 kit awhile back
[05:05] <jsgotangco> they'll give you an acer hah *joke*
[05:05] <tseng> nah :P
[05:06] <jsgotangco> i saw this ridiculously priced acer ferrari with carbon fiber last night
[05:06] <tseng> yeah
[05:06] <tseng> the Sun guys have them
[05:07] <ogra> jsgotangco, dont but it !
[05:07] <herve> hehe
[05:07] <jsgotangco> ogra: no way, after your warning before...
[05:07] <ogra> jsgotangco, i have the cheap version of it, its the crappiest HW i ever had
[05:07] <ogra> though the ferrari might have a better keyboard
[05:07] <jsgotangco> nice paint job though...as if i have to wax a laptop
[05:08] <bddebian> heh
[05:08] <\sh> ogra: if you don't need it..give it to me..i can create a buildd
[05:08] <\sh> ,-)
[05:08] <ogra> \sh, if i dont use it as laptop i can do that too ;)
[05:09] <\sh> ogra: please provide a chroot, pbuilder and login ,-)
[05:09] <ogra> currently it still has the amd64 advantage... i wont give it up yet :)
[05:09] <\sh> I just calculated.
[05:09] <ogra> \sh, haha... vial mobile link if i'm travelling ?
[05:09] <ogra> s/vial/via
[05:10] <\sh> i'm just working 1 1/2 years for ISH...after another 1 1/2 years it's time to change the company again
[05:10] <\sh> so new company, I hope there will be a new laptop ,-)
[05:10] <ogra> \sh, every time is a good time to leave ISH ;)
[05:10] <\sh> ogra: but not without a new job, dear :)
[05:11] <\sh> ogra: or are u proposing me a room in your house, where I can live for free? ,-)
[05:11] <ogra> \sh, depends, withot job you wont have to pay your ex :)
[05:11] <\sh> ogra: yeah..but without a  jon I can't pay my flat
[05:11] <bddebian> heh
[05:12] <\sh> job
[05:12] <ogra> \sh, you could try to share the cellar with my mental ill landlord, but i doubt that will be fun :)
[05:12] <\sh> is missing
[05:12] <tseng> http://tseng2.ath.cx:3000/admin
[05:12] <tseng> ruby on rails > *
[05:12] <tseng> so far that app has < 10 lines of code I wrote
[05:12] <\sh> ogra: oh no..forget it..
[05:12] <ogra> tseng, so take over maintainershoip
[05:12] <tseng> ogra: i asked elmo to sync it
[05:12] <tseng> ogra: i tested the debian version
[05:13] <tseng> there was a guy in here who wanted to be maintainer of rails stuff
[05:13] <\sh> ogra: behappy, that there r no "VisualBasicForLinux" freaks ,-)
[05:13] <tseng> i havent seen him again
[05:13] <ogra> tseng, we still have no MOTU for the ubuntu maintenance
[05:13] <tseng> ogra: the debian maintainer is fast + good
[05:13] <tseng> we just need syncs now
[05:14] <tseng> i am watching it casually
[05:14] <ogra> tseng, but makes crappy split ruby packages according to allthe complaints
[05:14] <tseng> hm i dont want ruby core
[05:14] <ogra> and i'm not after repackaging it
[05:14] <ogra> exactly
[05:14] <tseng> i will make sure rails stays up to date and working
[05:14] <tseng> thats about it
[05:17] <ogra> btw, the art team is after getting gnome-art in.... anybody interested in maintaining a ruby gtk app ?
[05:17] <bddebian> Crap, octave2.1 is taking FOREVER.  I gotta go get some honey-do's done before she gets home.. :-)
[05:20] <\sh> bddebian: same for kdevelop3
[05:20] <\sh> it's building here since 2 h
[05:22] <lamont> \sh:  http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Test/byDate/today.html is also interesting
[05:23] <\sh> lamont: purpose of Test?
[05:23] <ogra> \sh, complete autorebuild of the archive
[05:23] <\sh> aye
[05:24] <lamont> yeah
[05:24] <lamont> atm, it just has main in it.
[05:24] <lamont> should get universe sometime soonish
[05:24] <\sh> lamont: w8 with universe until the last merges are done and the rest of the transitions...
[05:25] <slomo> reee
[05:25] <\sh> after all...please have a look: libhid, kwave (MoM Merges) ,-)
[05:25] <lamont> \sh: it'll just be run over and over and over and over
[05:26] <lamont> \sh: the big thing that autotest is catching is things that we ahve binaries in the archive, but can't rebuild them.
[05:26] <\sh> I think this is my hp bladecenter what i requested? ,-)
[05:26] <jsgotangco> ok time for me to sleep, good night everyone
[05:26] <ogra> nigh jsgotangco
[05:26] <tseng> bye jsgotangco
[05:26] <\sh> night jsgotangco
[05:31] <slomo> siretart: thanks for uploading the linkchecker package :)
[05:36] <bddebian> OK, octave2.1 is done
[05:38] <slomo> tseng: does the new mono include the debugger?
[05:42] <tseng> slomo: no the debugger is a seperate package
[05:42] <tseng> and is kind of WIP
[05:42] <slomo> tseng: is it somewhere in breezy? would be nice to enable it in monodevelop ;)
[05:42] <tseng> no
[05:46] <\sh> oh no
[05:48] <\sh> libXcursor...
[05:48] <\sh> damn
[05:48] <\sh> again
[05:51] <\sh> rebuild
[05:54] <slomo> \sh: what packages were bugging you? libhid... and?
[05:57] <\sh> kwave
[05:57] <\sh> libhid i have the solution what to do..but autotools is bugging me
[05:57] <\sh> kwave: debian is using libflac6 and we have libflac7 and this is bugging me as well...
[05:58] <slomo> ok, you do libhid and i look at kwave ;)
[05:58] <\sh> libhid i'M too stupid for it...or automake doesn't like me
[05:59] <slomo> hmm... what's exactly the problem?
[06:01] <\sh> in the swig dir...exchange in Makefile.am python2.3 dir with python2.4
[06:01] <\sh> after that, I have to rebuild the files with aclocal automake autoconf..but it doesn't work
[06:01] <\sh> neither in chroot nor in rules files
[06:08] <slomo> \sh: just change it in Makefile.am and Makefile.in ;)
[06:08] <\sh> this is not the right solution...
[06:09] <Burgundavia> ogra, is there a hard fast date for all these main inclusion reports. Is it fine if I work on them over the next week?
[06:10] <ogra> feature freeze is august 11th, until then they should be finished
[06:12] <slomo> \sh: yes, that's not the cleanest solution but it will work until autoreconf works again ;) and the old patch in libhid which can't be applied does exactly the same
[06:12] <Burgundavia> ogra, ok
[06:13] <siretart> slomo: do you have access to ppc hardware and could try building qemu for ppc?
[06:14] <slomo> siretart: sure... i can try on my ibook
[06:14] <siretart> slomo: http://bugs.debian.org/319527 has the patch in question
[06:15] <siretart> it's not urgent, merges are way more important
[06:15] <slomo> siretart: i'm multitasking capable ;) what patch do you mean? isn't this the same patch as you've uploaded?
[06:16] <siretart> slomo: the latest message mentions http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2005-06/msg00004.html
[06:17] <slomo> hm seems to be the solution for the problem i had yesterday
[06:17] <siretart> ah, the latest posts are only on my inbox, and not yet on http://bugs.debian.org/319527
[07:23] <\sh> slomo: offlineimap?
[07:23] <slomo> \sh: yes?
[07:24] <\sh> uploaded? i just read the buglist...
[07:24] <\sh> don't find it
[07:25] <slomo> \sh: no... not uploaded but can be uploaded ;)
[07:25] <\sh> ah
[07:25] <\sh> Just upload the mom-merged version... seems fine
[07:25] <\sh> it's a bit strange;)
[07:25] <slomo> hehe... that's just a request for uploading ;)
[07:26] <bddebian> OK darn it.  I just made a small two line change to config.guess and when I do diff -Nurp /foo.old/bar /foo/bar I get much more than just the two lines I changed.  What gives?
[07:27] <slomo> bddebian: is config.{sub,guess} included in the diff?
[07:27] <bddebian> slomo: It is config.guess yes
[07:28] <slomo> ok... i don't know what to do then ;) you can just delete the config.guess stuff from the diff... or add your changes to clean sources ;)
[07:29] <\sh> offlineimap uploaded
[07:31] <slomo> \sh: i'm currently converting kwave to the new flac... can you please run and test it when i'm finished? i have no kde installed
[07:32] <\sh> slomo: sure...send me the patches.
[07:32] <\sh> sh at sourcecode.de ;)
[07:32] <\sh> or put them into the bug entry
[07:32] <slomo> ok
[07:32] <slomo> but i think i don't have enough time this evening... will finish it tomorrow
[07:32] <\sh> no pro
[07:32] <\sh> b
[07:40] <bddebian> w00t, /me breaks the 10 packages mark.  Though I swear I am missing some packages that I already re-built???
[07:47] <\sh> gatos uploaded
[07:52] <\sh> ok..uploading time today...i don't have luck today with patching source
[07:53] <slomo> \sh: thanks :) i think i understood all changes in the flac++ api... you get the patch tomorrow, i'm out this evening ;)
[07:53] <bddebian> To test more packages or not to test.. That is the question
[07:53] <\sh> slomo: u rock...I don't have any clue about flac
[07:54] <\sh> mol uploaded
[07:55] <slomo> \sh: i've known only the C api... but fortunatly the c++ api is almost identical, just everything wrapped in nice classes :)
[07:57] <bddebian> Something doesn't look right with hardware monitor.  apt-get source doesn't get an ubuntuX version but MOM says ubuntu2 ??
[07:58] <slomo> hmm... why is bogofilter built over and over again and fails every time?
[07:59] <\sh> bddebian: hmmm
[08:00] <\sh> bddebian: u sure octave2.1 build ok?
[08:00] <bddebian> \sh: Worked for me(tm)
[08:00] <\sh> cause debuild -S tells me something else
[08:00] <\sh> all patches are failing
[08:01] <\sh> and why nobody is assigning the bugs to themselfs *grrr*
[08:02] <bddebian> \sh: All what patches?
[08:02] <bddebian> I don't assign the bugs to myself because I am not an MOTU
[08:02] <\sh> bddebian: and? now octave2.1 is yours...also in bugzilla...please have a look thx :)
[08:03] <\sh> bddebian: if you're working on a package..it's nice to assign it to you, so we can have a look what work u have done..:)
[08:04] <bddebian> \sh: OK, I just thought that was bad since I wasn't MOTU?
[08:04] <\sh> bddebian: also important to put a nice link on your wiki ,-)
[08:04] <\sh> bddebian: come on..stop with this MOTU stuff...to fix bugs u don't need to be motu :)
[08:04] <bddebian> \sh: This is on i386?
[08:04] <\sh> bddebian: debuild -S works also on amd64 ,-)
[08:05] <\sh> and patches are applied on all archs :)
[08:05] <bddebian> \sh: I am not saying that to be sarcastic, I just didn't think it was appropriate.
[08:06] <\sh> bddebian: i'm not sarcastic :) I'm just trying to get u a nice list of bugs..so you can tell anybody: u see, i did this and that...:)
[08:06] <bddebian> Ahh :-)
[08:06] <\sh> bddebian: and the infos are in the entry https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12413
[08:07] <bddebian> \sh: You just did apt-get source and then debuild -S ??
[08:07] <\sh> bddebian: no..I just took the merge sources
[08:07] <\sh> got it from scotts page..
[08:07] <\sh> appropriate way
[08:07] <bddebian> Damnit, this is what I keep asking
[08:07] <bddebian> Grr
[08:07] <\sh> apt-get source is "the actual source"
[08:08] <\sh> in the archives
[08:08] <\sh> and I know this builds..
[08:08] <bddebian> I know, which is why I kept asking if that is the appropriate way.  I might as well start over.
[08:08] <\sh> bddebian: ok...some infos...
[08:08] <\sh> try first the sources from scotts page
[08:09] <\sh> if this is not working out properly...take debian source
[08:09] <bddebian> Getting them how?  With wget or some such?
[08:09] <\sh> and try to apply all the patches dropped by ubuntu
[08:09] <\sh> wget sure
[08:10] <slomo> \sh: i have a compiling version of the kwave flac plugin... BUT i don't think it's right at one position... will look at the flac sources ;) what a bad documentation...
[08:10] <bddebian> Any better suggestions than wget, sinc wget won't do wildcards?? :-)
[08:10] <\sh> bddebian: right mouse click-> copy link address
[08:10] <\sh> and then wget "<shift+insert>"
[08:10] <\sh> in your fav. console
[08:10] <\sh> easy
[08:10] <\sh> fast
[08:10] <\sh> reliable
[08:11] <bddebian> :-) OK
[08:11] <\sh> bddebian: u r not..I know it...I know how u feel, friend :)
[08:13] <bddebian> \sh: Do you usually just dpkg -x the dsc?
[08:14] <\sh> yepp
[08:16] <bddebian> dpkg -x wants a target directory??
[08:16] <\sh> dpkg-source -x
[08:16] <bddebian> Ohh duh
[08:20] <bddebian> Ahh, now it pukes.  Gee thanks \sh. ;-)
[08:20] <slomo> \sh: you've mail... please test :) this looks really weird but it seems that this is the right way...
[08:21] <\sh> slomo: kwave?
[08:21] <slomo> yes
[08:21] <\sh> thx :) will check it later..not today anymore :(
[08:23] <slomo> ok, please query me when you test it... or write a mail :) the critical part is the vendor string of the vorbis comments in flac files... just check if they get displayed correctly
[08:25] <slomo> bye bye :) i'll be back tomorrow
[08:25] <bddebian> Bye slomo.  You still ROCK ;-)
[08:43] <bddebian> Shoot, the Debian version of octave doesn't choke like that.. :-(
[08:43] <\sh> ok..trying again to fix kdevelop3
[08:44] <\sh> it's not the debian version...it's a mix of debian and ubuntu
[08:44] <\sh> to get the debian version directly: packages.debian.org and then unstable ,-)
[08:45] <bddebian> \sh: I know, I did and it doesn't choke on the patches the way the Ubuntu version does :-(
[08:46] <\sh> bddebian: the mom version is a mix of debian upstream and ubuntu
[08:47] <\sh> bddebian: so..check debian if it's working..and try to apply the dropped patches of ubuntu ,)
[08:47] <bddebian> Aye.  There are not dropped patches of ubuntu, just debian and they are just build-deps and standards version :-(
[08:48] <bddebian> Interesting.  The 01_gcc4.patch has 2.1.69..
[08:48] <\sh> hmm...
[08:49] <\sh> remove it temporarily
[08:50] <bddebian> Building now..
[08:51] <bddebian> debuild -S works.  Trying debuild -us -tc
[08:55] <\sh> bddebian: please build it until the end in a pbuilder..
[08:55] <\sh> to check if it has no gcc4 issues anymore
[08:55] <{Seb}> hi people
[08:56] <{Seb}> i would love to help out with ubuntu
[08:56] <{Seb}> and someone told me to come here
[08:58] <bddebian> {Seb}: What kind of help do you want to do?  There are many ways to help.
[08:59] <bddebian> Not that I personally am any help :-)
[08:59] <{Seb}> not too sure, what 'positions' are available?
[08:59] <bddebian> I mean do you want to help new users, document, fix bugs, build-packages, what??
[09:00] <{Seb}> i couldn't fix packages
[09:01] <{Seb}> i've had experience with documentation\
[09:01] <{Seb}> done stuff for hula and beagle
[09:03] <bddebian> {Seb}: Well you could check out the doc team on the wiki, or the NuN (New User Network) is trying to do some docs for n00bs.  Their wiki is here: v
[09:03] <\sh> {Seb}: check topic..https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge 1. prio...check packages from MoM
[09:03] <bddebian> Do
[09:03] <bddebian> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserNetwork
[09:09] <\sh> ok...I'm gone..need some sleep
[10:54] <ajmitch> morning all!
[10:54] <comadreja> hey ajmitch :)
[10:54] <ajmitch> good to see the merge bug list slowly creeping down
[10:54] <comadreja> indeed
[10:57] <herve> zzz... hu?
[10:57] <ajmitch> hey herve
[10:57] <ajmitch> not asleep yet? :)
[10:58] <herve> it's just 23h here :-)
[11:25] <herve> someone has a version of tla > 1.3.3 ?
[11:25] <herve> *before* 1.3.3
[11:31] <siretart> gn8 folks
[11:31] <herve> night