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fndfoxiness: hand off means, that12:00
LuNaTiK^GuYyet Windows rules on games.....and i find that to be the weakest point in Linux :S12:00
kbrooksfoxiness: when i said grandma i meant 'idiot', aka newb12:00
LuNaTiK^GuYits not linux's fault ok12:00
cafuegoaru: Keeps dropping out and reclaiming nick via nickserv.12:00
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LuNaTiK^GuYbut i want to play ANY game...with full hardware juice lol12:01
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: so....let me get this straight12:01
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flyingpenguin900LuNaTiK^GuY, play ut2k412:01
kbrooksflyingpenguin900: dont distract12:01
foxinessLuNaTiK^GuY, PS212:01
acid2Hey - where can I find a nice sources.list ?12:02
qt2is ti jsut me or does xffm4-icons seem like a messed up package, its icons for xffm, but it tries to remove xfce4, xfce4-devel & xffm4...? doesn't that seem a bit odd?12:02
foxinessbetter than all pnp12:02
LuNaTiK^GuYi dont want to buy a PS212:02
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: you want all games to automatically have 3D accel and everything without any configuration?12:02
LuNaTiK^GuYwot now?12:02
cafuegoacid2: sudo 'apt-setup'12:02
foxinesssafe your time and mony12:02
LuNaTiK^GuYkbrooks yes :)12:02
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sailor339Hey12:03
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foxinessLuNaTiK^GuY, you need to buy new harddisk soon than12:03
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: automatic is a bit diff to accomplish12:03
kbrooksfoxiness: ummm12:03
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kbrooksfoxiness: shush12:03
LuNaTiK^GuYkbrooks: its done in windows no?12:03
foxinessLuNaTiK^GuY, new vidocard >>>>>12:03
LuNaTiK^GuYu install it12:03
LuNaTiK^GuYetc etc12:03
LuNaTiK^GuYdone12:03
LuNaTiK^GuYi got an Nvidia 680012:03
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: directx and vid card drivers and thats it12:03
LuNaTiK^GuYpretty good card!!12:03
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LuNaTiK^GuYi had read an article12:04
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: however, linux is a bit harder12:04
everett_!ati12:04
uboturumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:04
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: link?12:04
LuNaTiK^GuYeven if Doom 3 was Open GL compliant...and playabe in linux........yet under windows it scored more frams12:04
ksymsI have edited /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc removing -nolisten tcp and it still starting with it, any idea?12:04
LuNaTiK^GuYwww.anandtech.com12:04
LuNaTiK^GuYlol12:04
fndomg12:04
kbrooksLuNaTiK^GuY: direct link12:04
foxinessubotu, is it support 3D12:04
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, foxiness12:04
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LuNaTiK^GuYlet me find it12:05
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LuNaTiK^GuYhttp://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/lh4058_review_08.jpg --> Win isnt looking that different....12:05
fndhmm harcd[ocp]  link might be use full on this12:05
fndhardocp even12:06
DaSkreechCan I apt-get downgrade a package?12:06
LuNaTiK^GuYDoom 3 battle: http://www.anandtech.com/linux/showdoc.aspx?i=224112:06
DaSkreechYes it is for X.org :)12:06
jasoncohenDaSkreech, yes12:06
DaSkreechjasoncohen: Wonderful is there a tutorial I can read?12:06
jasoncohenDaSkreech, you can downgrade a package easily in synaptic by selecting the package and choosing force version12:06
DaSkreechAh12:07
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flyingpenguin900What is the path to mice in ubuntu?12:07
AntinomyANyone suggest an alternative Distro than Ubuntu?12:07
AndaresAhh...12:07
jasoncohenDaSkreech, package > Force Version12:07
AndaresWhere is .xinitrc located in Ubuntu?12:07
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AndaresIt's not showing up with slocate.12:07
DaSkreechjasoncohen: and if the problem is that I can't get to Synaptic which is why I need to install an old package? :)12:07
LuNaTiK^GuYwindows scored better on a linux-compatible game......12:07
jasoncohenAntinomy, what are you looking for in a distro?12:07
Triffid_HunterAntinomy: gentoo?12:07
VirtuallLuNaTiK^GuY, looks like shit (I mean, like expected)12:07
LuNaTiK^GuYthats y i cant remove Win ;)12:07
Triffid_Hunterflyingpenguin900: /dev/input/mice should work12:07
jasoncohenDaSkreech, what did you do?12:07
qt2Andares, /dev/input/mice12:08
LuNaTiK^GuYVirtuall: why?12:08
DaSkreechjasoncohen: Up dated X12:08
Andaresqt2, why is it there?!12:08
jasoncohenDaSkreech, why are you running breezy?12:08
Virtualldon't know. imo even worse than xp12:08
AndaresHow do I use a window manager of my choice?12:08
qt2Andares, i dont know, because it should be!?12:08
DaSkreechtesting12:08
Antinomylet's see something as user friendly as Ubuntu - I just cant get it to work on my laptop12:08
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Andaresqt2, .xinitrc? the x server conf file?12:08
LuNaTiK^GuYVirtuall: i was talkin about Doom 3 lolllllllllllll12:08
jasoncohenDaSkreech, if you aren't a developer you shouldn't be using breezy. it's unstable12:08
fndi can think better than a game score, ohh wait i still run linux.. oh and OSX... must be bad12:08
AntinomyI've heard gentoo12:08
qt2Andares, install it, choose it in the session manager.12:08
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jasoncohenand it's not meant for regular users12:08
foxinessAntinomy, suse 9.312:08
qt2Andares, no, /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:09
Andaresqt2, I installed it manually.12:09
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Antinomyis that a good one?12:09
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AndaresDon't I have to edit stuff first?12:09
VirtuallLuNaTiK^GuY, i was talkin bout 1st screen12:09
Virtuall;)12:09
Antinomysuse 9.3 ok12:09
DaSkreechjasoncohen: Understood12:09
benplauthas anyone here successfully set up winetools with the wine cvs? (from the tutorial)12:09
LuNaTiK^GuYlol12:09
jasoncohenDaSkreech, downgrading something like xorg isn't going to be easy because of all of its dependencies.12:09
Antinomyhmmm....when is breezy coming out?12:09
jasoncohenyou should be using hoary12:09
Triffid_HunterAntinomy: i'm using it and i love it.. ubuntu started annoying me before it even started installing...12:09
LuNaTiK^GuYwot about Doom 3 wars.....Win performed better12:09
jasoncohenAntinomy, october12:09
DaSkreechjasoncohen: There are some Mono apps that work better under breezy that we are very interested in12:09
Andaresqt2, don't I need to edit some conf file to get it to be recognized? I installed it to /usr/share12:09
LuNaTiK^GuYany explanation?12:09
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AntinomyTriffid_Hunter: suse?12:09
Antinomyjasoncohen: cool, thanks12:09
DaSkreechjasoncohen: All of our machines run Ubuntu Hoary cept one12:09
Triffid_HunterAntinomy: haven't tried suse12:10
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AntinomyTriffid_Hunter: sorry which one? gentoo?12:10
jasoncohenDaSkreech, well, then you have to accept the instability and you should learn how to fix it yourself by reading the apt howto. you should be a knowledgable debian user12:10
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DaSkreechWhich isn't critical but when it breaks we like to fix it and document it to make life easier in the future :)12:10
jasoncohenif you came from sid it wouldn't be so bad12:10
Triffid_HunterAntinomy: that's what i'm using, yeah..12:10
benplautwine'd IE6 setup can't find an internet connection... any fix?12:10
Antinomyok thanks12:10
DaSkreechAh :-)12:10
jasoncohenDaSkreech, these things can be fixed but not easily12:10
AntinomyJust cant get UBU to work12:10
DaSkreechSid vicious12:10
jasoncohenapt is meant to upgrade- not downgrade12:10
jasoncohenyou would have to downgrade every package that depends on the new xorg version12:11
DaSkreechI'll use dpkg12:11
jasoncohento the old version12:11
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LuNaTiK^GuYbenplaut: why use IE?12:11
DaSkreechI just removed them12:11
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jasoncohenDaSkreech, what's wrong with mono 1.1.7 in backports?12:11
benplautLuNaTiK: required for setting up Wine12:11
LuNaTiK^GuYoh ic12:11
acid2W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90712:11
zukalki have a friend i'm trying to convince to make The Switch, but he's working with Freehand and Flash and needs his tools. is there any alternative to Wine in Ubuntu?12:11
acid2What can I do about that? (Apt-get update error)12:12
zukalki mean, is there any other program besides Macromedia's?12:12
qt2Andares, what WM is it?12:12
qt2WM/DE12:12
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Burgundaviaacid2, don't use marilliat. Hoary-extras from the backports project has the same packages, but compiled for hoary12:13
kbrooks!marillat12:13
ubotukbrooks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:13
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dkoh2hi12:13
kbrooks!marilliat12:13
ubotuI haven't a clue, kbrooks12:13
dkoh2would you guys know how to connect to a hp printer via ip?12:13
zukalk!marillat is evil12:13
ubotuokay, zukalk12:13
LuNaTiK^GuYwot do u ppl prefer....Mac OS or Win ?12:13
dkoh2I have samba installed12:13
bassinbo1what game on ubuntu can i try out my joy stick on?12:13
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acid2Burgundavia, ok12:14
guerbyedi, after much looking around openvpn static ip per client is not ipp.txt, you have to uncomment client-config-dir ccd, create a openvpn/ccd directory with one file per client containing ifconfig-push IP1 IP2 from the authorized list of pairs. Then all works perfectly :)12:14
psychonatebassinbo1, tuxkart has support I believe12:14
guerbyedi, thanks for your hint12:14
foxinessi want to install last ver of Mono 1.1.7  , but b4 that i want to uninstall 1.1.6 what i install it from souce package anyone can help please?!12:14
fnddkoh2: FAQ on priniting12:14
jasoncohenzukalk, you might want to look at crossover office. it's a commercial application based on wine that is setup to work with applications like dreamweaver, shockwave, photoshop, office etc specifically12:14
kbrooksubotu: marilliat is <reply>Please do not use marilliat. Hoary-extras from the backports project has the same packages in marilliat, but compiled for hoary12:14
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ubotukbrooks: okay12:14
psychonateI used to use an xbox controller with tuxkart.12:14
LuNaTiK^GuYfoxiness.....ur coding in C#?12:14
jasoncohenzukalk, it's $4012:14
kbrooksubotu: marilliat12:14
ubotuPlease do not use marilliat. Hoary-extras from the backports project has the same packages in marilliat, but compiled for hoary12:14
kbrooks!marilliat12:14
kbrooks!marilliat12:15
kbrooks!marilliat12:15
acid2guerby, try make uninstall12:15
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kbrooks!marilliat12:15
acid2ermm12:15
acid2foxiness, even12:15
foxinessLuNaTiK^GuY, no , i want to uninstall mono12:15
zukalkjasoncohen, thanks. are there programs made for Linux?12:15
dkoh2fnd: where is that faq?12:15
jasoncohenzukalk, no- they are windows programs that can run in crossover office. crossover office is basically a highly refined wine12:16
LuNaTiK^GuYis there some kind of uninstall script?12:16
acid2foxiness, if you built from source, try "make uninstall"12:16
foxinessacid2, k12:16
acid2maybe make remove, I think one of the exists in the Mono makefile12:16
foxinessthanks acid212:16
acid2it work?12:16
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Lukhola12:16
fnddkoh2: this is where i hand over to ppl, tbh i dont know, looked at local help12:16
tarvidsorry for being such a pest but is there a way to chroot ssh users such that they can only see their directory12:16
acid2lo12:16
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foxinessi will try it now and than will informed you12:17
acid2sure12:17
umberleighhey, gnome's menu configuration system seems to be broken on my fresh hoary install. i goto applications:/// or applications-all-users:/// in nautilus and it tells me they're not valid locations. any idea how to fix it / what might be up?12:17
jasoncohenacid2, not all packages built from source have a make uninstall function12:17
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acid2jasoncohen, I know12:17
Lukchile12:17
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acid2I think mono has an uninstall target, thats all12:17
zukalkjasoncohen, thanks. let's see if i save his soul before microsuck get him12:17
Lukhola12:17
jasoncohenumberleigh, it's not broken. it just wasn't added to 2.10. there's no way to edit menus by default in 2.1012:17
LuNaTiK^GuYanyone ever tried XP/DE?12:17
umberleigh:'-(12:18
Lukubuntu12:18
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Lukbye12:18
jasoncohenumberleigh, add hoary-backports and install smeg12:18
ColonelKernelmy power went out and now my /boot is 15% non-contiguous - how do I fix this?12:18
jasoncohenumberleigh, or download it directly12:18
foxinessLuNaTiK^GuY, me12:18
mactinyi seem to be gettting different reports, when exactly is breezy gonna come out12:18
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LuNaTiK^GuYfoxiness: is it good?12:18
jasoncohenumberleigh, http://www.realistanew.com/2005/03/18/gnome-menu-editor/12:18
acid2mactiny, october?12:18
Burgundaviamactiny, October 13, 200512:18
umberleighthanks jasoncohen12:18
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mactinyoh ok12:18
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mactinythanks12:18
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phixionanyone here ever have probs with Music Player when trying to open a few thousand mp3s?12:18
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acid2nope12:19
phixionmine seems to stop adding them after a while :/12:19
LuNaTiK^GuYi never tried opening a few thousand lol!! :)12:19
acid2they have bad tags then12:19
foxinessLuNaTiK^GuY, the desktop working but not the app that with me12:19
phixionstill says 'loading songs'12:19
acid2yea, clik12:19
LuNaTiK^GuYfoxiness: thanks12:19
acid2click*12:19
BlazingSteakSaucanyone know how to access a fat32 parition on ubuntu version 5.04?12:19
acid2and it will crash12:19
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acid2you need to locate the bad files12:19
ColonelKernelmy poor /boot!12:19
phixionhow do i do that? ;/12:19
foxinessLuNaTiK^GuY, you are welcome :)12:19
jasoncohenphixion, rhythmbox? how are you adding them?12:19
fndphixion: trya diff mp3 player12:19
kbrooksBlazingSteakSauc:12:19
acid2see the rhythmbox faq on the rhythm box website for more12:19
ksymsIs magic necessary to make X start without nolisten?12:19
kbrooks!mount12:19
ubotufrom memory, mount is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions12:19
jasoncohenBlazingSteakSauc, add the partition to /etc/fstab12:19
BlazingSteakSaucthat work for ntfs as well12:20
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BlazingSteakSauc?*12:20
kbrooksjasoncohen: use ubotu dude12:20
ColonelKernelis there anything I can do to fix my /boot - it is 15% non contiguous after a power outage - and im buying a UPS12:20
phixionyeah rhythm box12:20
acid2BlazingSteakSauc, yup12:20
jasoncohenphixion, did you go to library > add to library12:20
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kbrooksBlazingSteakSauc: use ubotu12:20
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BlazingSteakSauci got dual boot so that helps12:20
kbrooksacid2: cut it12:20
acid2kbrooks, ... ?12:20
jasoncohenkbrooks, i didn't know about that one12:20
phixionyeah i added my mp3 folder to library when starting up12:20
wing`someone there can tell me why when i exit Enemy Territory (game) the X dekstop gets bigger (zoom), and how i can fix it without restarting?12:20
BlazingSteakSauci got games and stuff on the ntfs so im not removing it12:20
nalioths_dogBlazingSteakSauc: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically12:20
ColonelKernelwing hit ctrl+alt++12:20
ColonelKernelhmm12:21
jasoncohenum, why?12:21
ColonelKernelctrl_alt_+12:21
BlazingSteakSauck12:21
wing`ok12:21
wing`thanks12:21
kbrooksacid2 and jasoncohen: I suggest you not make a user edit a configuration file12:21
wing`ill need to that always?12:21
jasoncohennalioth_wrkn, they should mount automatically anyways with mount -a12:21
acid2when did i suggest that?12:21
LuNaTiK^GuYwowww12:21
acid2o.O12:21
LuNaTiK^GuYthis is nice!12:21
nalioth_wrknphixion: depending on your hardware adding a few thousand to anything can slow things down12:21
BlazingSteakSauci wish my files would work on it that are windows compat only12:21
LuNaTiK^GuYCtrl Alt +/-12:21
LuNaTiK^GuY:)12:21
phixionim suprised if theres bad tags, even if I add my 'scene' folder with scene releases in it does the same12:21
jasoncohennalioth_wrkn, and that's run at boot up12:21
LuNaTiK^GuYWOW12:21
ColonelKernelwing` you shouldnt - I dont know why its doing that - what kind of video card?12:21
umberleighhow do i add backports to my repository? is it just a case of adding 'backports' as a sections keyword?12:21
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BlazingSteakSaucwine don't seem to finction with them12:21
wing`ColonelKernel, geforce mx440-se12:21
ColonelKernelwing` it shouldnt be a problem12:22
wing`:|12:22
naliothjasoncohen: ok12:22
Burgundaviaumberleigh, not yet12:22
jasoncohenkbrooks, that's exactly what they'll be doing if they follow the wiki12:22
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Burgundaviaumberleigh, www.ubuntuforums.org has the info12:22
flyingpenguin900Is there a way that I could download and install Nvidia drivers from the terminal?12:22
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ColonelKernelI run it on a mx4408xagp and it runs like a champ - maybe you dont have double buffering enabled or something12:22
kbrooksflyingpenguin900: yes12:22
Burgundaviaflyingpenguin900, yes12:22
acid2flyingpenguin900, wget12:22
umberleighthank12:22
umberleighBurgundavia, thanks12:22
flyingpenguin900Could someone walk me through that?12:22
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Burgundaviaflyingpenguin900, you can apt-get them12:22
LuNaTiK^GuYflyingpenguin900:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx12:22
droobhi all.12:22
wing`ColonelKernel, do you know where i can find those settings?12:22
acid2or that12:22
acid2:D12:22
foxinessacid2, i found to folder for mono 1.0.6 and 1.1.6 i dont remember wich one i install , is there away to know it12:23
jasoncohennalioth, auto is default. if you don't want it to mount you can add noauto12:23
ColonelKernelwing` in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:23
droobI'm a brand-new live CD users, and I'm pretty impressed.12:23
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acid2fonsken, hmm.. "mono -v" ?12:23
acid2actually12:23
BlazingSteakSaucdoes the sandisk solid state usb sticks need drivers for ubuntu12:23
acid2"mono -V"12:23
jasoncohenumberleigh, no12:23
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darkmatterg'afternoon all12:23
acid2maybe mcs -V12:23
BlazingSteakSaucim not on the os right now so can't try12:23
kbrooksBlazingSteakSauc: try it and see12:23
jasoncohenumberleigh, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/12:23
ColonelKernelwing` in the Modules section12:23
jasoncohenumberleigh, look at the example hoary configuration12:23
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LuNaTiK^GuYin 2 months i want to setup my ubuntu system to perfection12:24
LuNaTiK^GuYand impress my university buddies ;)12:24
Andaresqt2!!!12:24
foxinessacid2, Mono JIT compiler version 1.0.6 , thanks12:24
ColonelKernelIm pretty sure mine is close12:24
jasoncohenumberleigh, "sudo echo "deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" >> /etc/apt/sources.list12:24
acid2foxiness, :)12:24
Andaresxorg.conf has NOTHING to do with desktop environments12:24
ColonelKernelI cant figure out how to get mythtv running12:24
FlyingSquirrel32I'm setting up an NIS server and reading the doc that comes with the debian. It says I should add "+::::::" to the end of my /etc/passwd and shadow. Any ideas why?12:24
wing`ColonelKernel, load dri still there, maybe is that? ill remove it12:25
jasoncohenumberleigh, then "sudo apt-get update"12:25
ColonelKernelwing` if youre using the nvidia driver it shoudl be commented out - that game must have ran like crap otherwise12:25
jasoncohenColonelKernel, what's the problem? did you follow the guide on mythtv.org12:25
ColonelKerneljasoncohen yeah I did12:25
jasoncohenColonelKernel, i just helped someone setup mythtv on ubuntu last night. i've been using mythtv for quite a while12:25
droobI've got a drive of unknown filesystem hooked up as slave on a firewire bridge. The master drive mounts, but this one doesn't. I know it's a working pull from a linux system. Any ideas?12:25
jasoncohenColonelKernel, so, what's the problem?12:25
wing`ColonelKernel, im using hehe, i didnt even played the game... just enter and exit12:26
BlazingSteakSaucis there a way to ghost a already installed windows to allow the programs to work with out wine?12:26
ColonelKerneli was just tired it was late last night, Ill figure it out once I get my /boot fixed12:26
FlyingSquirrel32ColonelKernel: I fought with that and gave up. Of course I had a NVidia to complicate things.12:26
IcemanV9LuNaTiK^GuY: make sure you have everything installed that your college buddies threw at ya! THEN, they'll be impressed! ;)12:26
ColonelKernelI have an Nvidia as well12:26
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jasoncohenwhat's wrong with nvidia12:26
jasoncohenit's actually recommended12:26
ColonelKerneltvtime works well but it needs better deinterlacing12:26
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LuNaTiK^GuYIcemanV9: thats a bit tough :(12:26
phixionwell, i finally got azureus working after installing the website version instead of apt-get :) so im happy12:26
ColonelKernelI love nvidia and linux12:26
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jasoncohenColonelKernel, mythtv is not for watching tv. it's a full blown PVR app + more12:26
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LuNaTiK^GuYIcemanV9: Visual Studio, Dirext X games12:26
foxinessacid2, thanks its now uninstall suff....12:27
ColonelKernelall I want to do is watch tv with the best possible picture12:27
jasoncohenit's not worth the setup as a viewer12:27
FlyingSquirrel32jasoncohen, really? I wish I were at home, I'd give it another round.12:27
IcemanV9LuNaTiK^GuY: well, you have TWO months to figure it out. :p12:27
ColonelKerneltvtime is close but needs improvement12:27
ColonelKernelsomene ought to tell vektor to add tomsmocomp212:27
FlyingSquirrel32ColonelKernel, jasoncohen: I used TVTime12:27
othernoobdoes anyone know a better program than unrar to extract multiple rar files which are split up into several files?12:27
flyingpenguin900Is there some sort of nvidia command that edits the Xorg.conf?12:27
LuNaTiK^GuYIcemanV9: 2 months to do wot i did in 10yrs lol :)12:27
FlyingSquirrel32jasoncohen: very easy to set up12:27
jasoncohenFlyingSquirrel32, yes, i have mythtv setup so that i can schedule recordings on the web, watch my movies with IMDB info + dvd covers + info, record all my shows + auto-skip commercials and denoise for higher quality. i can play DVDs and my music, check weather etc.12:28
LuNaTiK^GuYIcemanV9: well we can rule out games...this is for student work :)12:28
jasoncohenFlyingSquirrel32, tvtime is just a simple viewer12:28
jasoncohenmythtv isn't12:28
foxinesshttp://patches.ximian.com/Ubuntu_Installation , any one here try beagle on ubuntu "is this link the best way to install it"12:28
LuNaTiK^GuYis there a Mono Binary?12:28
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IcemanV9LuNaTiK^GuY: yeah. too bad about games. :(12:28
jasoncohenmythtv is a PVR suite that has a backend server and a mysql database12:28
LuNaTiK^GuYthat can be installed by runnnig a script?12:28
flyingpenguin900Was I supposed to remove ati drivers before installing Nvidia drivers?12:28
ColonelKernelflyingpenguin900 use nano and its not an nvidia command - if yorue xorg.conf got overwritten it means there was a problem loading your driver and it overwrote your xorg.conf with a safe default and backed your old one up to xorg.conf.backup12:28
FlyingSquirrel32jasoncohen: I imagine Myth is worth the work.12:28
ColonelKernelflyingpenguin900 yes.12:28
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Chris_Tuckerwhat are .dsc's?12:28
droobothernoob: is unrar not working?12:28
jasoncohenit can support multiple tuners, commercial detection, dvd transcoding, access from the web12:29
DaSkreechCan you apt-get myth?12:29
jasoncohenFlyingSquirrel32, yes it is12:29
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LuNaTiK^GuYIcemanV9: is there a mono binary....with a simple ./configure make makeinstall script?12:29
flyingpenguin900ColonelKernel, how would I remove the ati drivers?12:29
jasoncohenDaSkreech, yeah, 0.17 is in ubuntu but it requires quite a bit of setup12:29
ColonelKernelflyingpenguin900 I dont know12:29
jasoncohenmythtv.org12:29
acid2LuNaTiK^GuY, svn has that method12:29
darkmatterIs there a .deb for Clearlooks 0.6.2 under Hoary?12:29
othernoobdroob: well, not really.. i have 26 files which are again split into 15 files..and it won't let me unrar e *.rar12:29
LuNaTiK^GuYsvn?12:29
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acid2subversion12:29
jasoncohendarkmatter, i think backports has it12:29
LuNaTiK^GuYacid2: wots svn?12:29
othernoobdroob: i have to type the name for each of em..which sucks12:29
acid2cept its ./autogen.sh make make install12:29
ColonelKernelhow do I fix non-contiguous data on my /boot?12:30
jasoncohendarkmatter, Package: gtk2-engines-clearlooks12:30
jasoncohenVersion: 0.6.2-1~5.04ubp112:30
droobothernoob: you could do it mini-shell script style.12:30
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ColonelKernelbbl12:30
FlyingSquirrel32What effect would adding "+::::::" have at the end of /etc/passwd?12:30
darkmatterjasoncohen: I've updated all my backports and can't seem to find it.12:30
othernoobdroob: like?12:31
LuNaTiK^GuYi'm updating all my system12:31
IcemanV9LuNaTiK^GuY: yep, it is in universe12:31
LuNaTiK^GuYinstalled kubuntu from scratch12:31
Chris_Tuckerhow could i have apt-get download things and store them but not install?12:31
akkFlyingSquirrel32: Makes it look at NIS for further password information.12:31
LuNaTiK^GuYunivers ok :)12:31
darkmatterall i get listed is the 0.5 version12:31
jasoncohendarkmatter, dists/hoary-backports-staging/main/12:31
jasoncohendarkmatter, it's still in staging. wait a week or so12:31
darkmattertthanks12:31
FlyingSquirrel32akk: Oh. Which would take priority for a machine, the local entry or the NIS?12:32
kbrooksChris_Tucker: *looks*12:32
dkoh2does anyone know who to print to a windows networked printer? I've got samba installed12:32
FlyingSquirrel32akk: (If the entry exists on both)12:32
dkoh2*how12:32
LuNaTiK^GuYanyway....my priority is Java...and i got netbeans running ok :) kdevelop is ok for c/c++....so now i'll get mono too :)12:32
Chris_Tuckerand -d12:32
jasoncohendarkmatter, what's so great about 0.6.2?12:32
flyingpenguin900In order for Xorg to use the Nvidia drivers wouldn't Xorg.conf have to be configured to use the Nvidia drivers?12:32
Chris_Tucker*ah12:32
kbrooksChris_Tucker: -d12:32
Chris_Tuckerapt-get -d12:32
kbrooks:P12:32
Chris_Tuckeryes12:32
kbrooksno12:32
kbrooksapt-get <option> -d ...12:33
darkmatternothing really. just can't get some of the newer themes to skin synaptic with 0.512:33
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droobothernoob: if it's just a matter of running unrar 26 times, might be easier to just do that.12:33
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akkFlyingSquirrel32: I think it goes by order in the file, so if the NIS is at the end, the local ones take priority.12:34
othernoobdroob: well yes, am at file 10 right now, but it's annoying as fuck..so, would you know a better cli prog to unrar files like these?12:34
droobis there a way to tell what filesystem an unmounted but connected disk uses?12:34
FlyingSquirrel32akk: Ahhh. Makes sense. Thanks.12:34
deliredroob: no12:35
akkFlyingSquirrel32: It's documented, somewhere, I'm sure, but I forget where ... maybe in man 5 passwd?12:35
droobhrm.12:35
flyingpenguin900How do uninstall ati drivers?12:35
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FlyingSquirrel32jasoncohen: How long will you be around here? I might give myth another try if I knew I had some backup.12:36
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Chris_Tuckerwoot its working :)12:36
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umberleighjasoncohen: i'm getting "http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary/hoary-backports/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found" etc.12:36
kbrooksah12:36
kbrooksless -E12:37
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umberleighwhen updating12:37
LuNaTiK^GuYhow can i add repositories in kynaptic?12:37
DaSkreechLuNaTiK^GuY: As far as I know you have to do it manually12:38
darkmatterumberleigh:mirrormax hastroubles on and off. servers probably backed up. try again later12:38
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umberleighalso: i had to add the repository in synaptic, sudo didn't like ">>" (i remember reading something in the docs about this, but i don't recall the workaround)12:38
LuNaTiK^GuYDaSkreech: which file?12:38
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IcemanV9LuNaTiK^GuY: /etc/apt/sources.list12:38
delireDaSkreech: i would have thought kynaptic offered the same interface that synaptic offers for adding repos..?12:39
DaSkreechNope12:39
umberleighdarkmatter: k12:39
delireodd12:39
DaSkreechIt's an great example of a subset :-)12:39
Chris_Tuckerany way i can override apt-get asking "do you want to continue?" --force-yes isnt overriding this12:39
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: perhaps try kpackage instead. my students find it very easy to use.12:39
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LuNaTiK^GuYkpackage?12:40
DekaPinkAnyone know any fun games for linux? xD12:40
LuNaTiK^GuYfrom where do i get it?12:40
Chris_Tuckerut2k4 :P12:41
othernoobDekaPink: minesweeper12:41
DekaPinkothernoob: I suck at minesweeper. xD12:41
foxinesssee you guys time to go12:41
Triffid_HunterDekaPink: ut200412:41
droobothernoob: beware my crappy, long unused shell skeeelz. try something like " find . -name "*html" -print | xargs unrar"12:41
poningruanyone know what the command is for bittornado?12:41
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: apt-get install kpackage12:41
droobothernoob: except with a string to find the first .rar file instead of "html"12:42
LuNaTiK^GuYdelire ur a lecturer?12:42
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cavediverHey, can someone tell me if the brown color shown before the wallpaper is shown, is hardcoded into some script. Can't change it. I set the desktop-color to blue. But still I get, brown - blue and then the wallpaper12:42
naliothponingru: believe it's just 'bittornado'12:42
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: yes12:42
Chris_Tuckerany way i can override apt-get asking "do you want to continue?" --force-yes isnt overriding this12:42
LuNaTiK^GuYdelire: may i ask wot field?12:42
cavediverChris_Tucker: -y12:42
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delireLuNaTiK^GuY: computer game development and design12:42
cavediverapt-get -y update i think12:42
DekaPinkOooooh... I've never played UT~12:42
FlyingSquirrel32akk: I'm a bit of a noob, but I don't see the value of shadow files. If a person can steal the passwd, wouldn't it be just as easy to get the shadow?12:42
Chris_Tuckerthanks cavediver12:42
othernoobdroob: i'm almost done, but I'll try your suggestion the next time, won't be too long ;)12:42
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LuNaTiK^GuYdelire: gosh!! we dont have that in malta :( :( :(12:43
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: i'm sure it won't be long ;)12:43
droobothernoob: you're unrar-ing research papers and bible study, right?12:43
LuNaTiK^GuYdelire: Why?12:43
othernoobdroob: less bible study, more research12:43
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delireLuNaTiK^GuY: games are everywhere. uni degrees in game development spread with them. some areas take more time than others.12:43
akkFlyingSquirrel32: I tend to think so too. I said yes to them this last time, but honestly I don't think it makes much difference.12:44
LuNaTiK^GuYdelire: but in malta....most businesses are concerned with the usual Databases, payrolls, networks.....nobody ever pointed to gaming :(12:44
flyingpenguin900What exactly do I need to apt-get to install nvidia kernel module on my machine?12:44
FlyingSquirrel32akk: If I set up NIS, will my shadow files with the encrypted passwords be flying around the network?12:44
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: well give them a kick in the arse then ;) it's a booming industry and it's not slowing down..12:44
LuNaTiK^GuYdelire: too much political interests in our Uni :(12:45
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: shame12:45
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akkFlyingSquirrel32: It's been about 10 years since I last used NIS for anything, I don't think I'm really your person for NIS questions.12:45
LuNaTiK^GuYdelire: YES!12:45
cavediverNoone know how to change that colour ?12:45
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FlyingSquirrel32othernoob: cool, I thought I was the only guy around here that did bible study :) What religion?12:45
thingfishyou mean denomination.12:46
akkFlyingSquirrel32: But if you set up the machine as a server, and serve the directory containing the shadow file, and make it world readable, then yeah.12:46
naliothok fellas, we are getting off topic12:46
LuNaTiK^GuYdelire: for ex. lately M$ released some of its S/W to students at very very cheap prices in malta.....as a result the government is forced to employ M$ stuff in education...Linux is UNHEARD of :(12:46
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: the usual story..12:46
thingfishChristianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, are religions.  Baptist, Presbyterian, Greek Orthodox, are denominations.12:46
othernoobFlyingSquirrel32: buddhism ;)12:46
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flyingpenguin900Ok, how would I find the name of what I need to apt-get to install nvidia kernel on my machine?12:47
Burgundaviathingfish, othernoob this is completely offtopic, plase find it elsewhere12:47
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FlyingSquirrel32akk: well, we'll see if I can make it work, and then harden afterward. In the LinuxJournal article they coupled it with kerberos. I might have to do the same12:47
Burgundavias/fine/take12:47
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thingfishso sorry folks12:47
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: linux sysadmins are very highly sought after these days. spend a year learning and become indispensable in malta.12:47
Burgundaviaflyingpenguin900, you need to apt-get nvidia-glx, it should get everything you need12:47
FlyingSquirrel32othernoob: never would have guessed it. :D12:47
Burgundaviaflyingpenguin900, then you need to follow wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:47
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flyingpenguin900Burgundavia, thanks I will try that12:48
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: linux sysadmins earn nearly twice that of MSCE admins here in scandinavia.12:48
LuNaTiK^GuYdelire: yes its wot i want to do now....the only honest lecturer is takin a lot of interest in me and 2 friends when we showed him we're ready to go against all norms and use Linux :)12:48
droobmore "mystery disk" fun: when I run "sudo fdisk -l", I see the master drive on the FW bridge, and my PB's drive, but not the slave.12:48
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othernoobBurgundavia: how are you today?12:49
bulbmy hoary achieved kernel panick after upgrade12:49
FlyingSquirrel32akk: another related thing, a little less NIS. If I set up a kerberos server on a network with M$ servers, will it interfere with the kerberos that the domain controllers run?12:49
Burgundaviaothernoob, not bad12:49
LuNaTiK^GuYdelire: another lecturer nearly threatened to fail me :(12:49
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: good on you. linux is the fastest growing OS. you can't go wrong.12:49
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: hmm12:49
bulbbooted now up with knoppix.12:49
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bulbi could chroot, but how can i find my harddrives?12:49
othernoobBurgundavia: that's completely offtopic, take it elsewhere ;)12:49
Burgundaviaothernoob, right, knew that was coming12:49
delirebulb: fdisk -l and see what's there12:49
othernoobBurgundavia: good12:49
thingfishhehe12:49
akkFlyingSquirrel32: I don't have a clue. I'm not the right person to be asking stuff like that.12:50
LuNaTiK^GuYlinux is a nice platform......i'll c wot i can do with it :)12:50
darkmattercavediver: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305512:50
bulbdelire: absolutely no answers12:50
FlyingSquirrel32akk: thanks anyway I'll go ask in #Linux12:50
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: hehe i've been using it for a long time and still amazed at the extensibility and flexibility of Linux.12:50
delirebulb: odd. type 'mount'12:51
phixiondecent cd / dvd burning apps for gnome? :)12:51
cavediverdarkmatter: thank you12:51
darkmatterno problem12:51
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bulb/dev/root on / type ext2 (rw)12:52
bulbis that is?12:52
delirebulb: are you using knoppix?12:52
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bulbyes12:52
bulbmachine won't boot12:52
fagrcan't i just log to other distro using ssh12:52
fagri opened port 22 and still it say connection refused12:53
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darkmatterphixion: gnomebaker, graveman! and serpentine.12:53
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delirebulb: ahah. try a 'mount -a' or see if you can find your other disks in the KDE devices menu and mount them. fdisk -l should have given you output i would have thought however.12:53
flyingpenguin900Burgundavia, that webpage you directed me to told me to run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable , but when I did it said the Xorg.conf has been modified cannot proceed12:54
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Burgundaviaflyingpenguin900, you can hand-edit the Xorg.conf12:54
flyingpenguin900Burgundavia, so I generated a new one by running Xorgconfig but same error12:54
flyingpenguin900Burgundavia, what do I need to do?12:54
phixionthankyou darkmatter12:54
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BurgundaviaI own an ATI card, and have not set up any nvidia cards12:54
darkmatteryour welcome12:54
delireflyingpenguin900: sounds like an annoying problem you have there..12:54
atilahi all; anyone offer an URL to download UT2K4 demo ? ? ? (but not the orginal site)12:55
AntinomyIf I create a partition without a mount point, will linux see it?12:55
Burgundaviaflyingpenguin900, ask here if someone has the same card as you12:55
bulbmount - a gives me "mount: mount point 0 does not exist"12:55
flyingpenguin900delire, extremely...12:55
flyingpenguin900Anyone here have a nvidia 6600gt that can help me set up my Xorg.conf12:55
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delireAntinomy: fdisk -l will see it, but to use it it will need to be mounted.12:55
_andreaanyway12:55
Antinomydelire: can I mount it from within linux once it's up and running?12:56
delirebulb: are you sure your other harddisks are plugged in and running?12:56
delireAntinomy: yes, of course.12:56
LuNaTiK^GuYi'll enjoy a day of ubuntu configuration tomorrow ;)12:56
LuNaTiK^GuYslowly and surely ;)12:56
delireLuNaTiK^GuY: ;) that's the spirit.12:56
bulbmaybe i should check12:56
LuNaTiK^GuYi'm tired now ;)12:56
Chris_Tuckerwhats the paste keyboard shortcut in terminal?12:56
Antinomydelire: thanks!12:56
bulbbut what else could give me kernel panick :)12:56
delireAntinomy: anytime.12:56
LuNaTiK^GuYdelire: sure :) 10x12:56
Antinomydelire: one more ?12:56
maddlerChris_Tucker: shift+ins12:56
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Chris_Tuckerthanks maddler12:56
delireAntinomy: sure12:56
maddlerChris_Tucker: np12:57
atilahi all; anyone offer an URL to download UT2K4 demo ? ? ? (but not the orginal site)12:57
akkIck! Running gnome-font-properties just blew away my gtk key bindings (emacs) even in running apps.12:57
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akkHow do I change them back and notify the current apps?12:57
bulbbut i'll try that. thanks anyway, delire!12:57
Antinomydelire: my x86 install of ubu wont see my keyboard. If I plug in an external key board (its a laptop) and I get in, can I fix the internal keyboard from within linux?12:57
maddlerAntinomy: which laptop?12:57
delireatila: http://www.3ddownloads.com/linuxgames/ut2k4/demo12:58
atilathanks delire :-)12:58
Antinomymaddler: compaq presario r4000 seriesAMD Athlon 6412:58
delireAntinomy: yes, what laptop?12:58
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Antinomymaddler: compaq presario r4000 seriesAMD Athlon 6412:58
Antinomydelire12:58
atilaubuntu RuLeZ :-) lol12:58
Antinomydelire12:58
Antinomymaddler: compaq presario r4000 seriesAMD Athlon 6412:58
Antinomysorry12:58
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delireAntinomy: AMD64 with an x86 install??12:59
atilabye -all12:59
delireciao12:59
maddlerAntinomy: why do use an x86 cd then?12:59
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Antinomydelire: yes, several ubu experts have told me to do it this way...12:59
maddler?!12:59
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deliresounds odd12:59
Antinomydelire: that it would be better like that12:59
maddlerbetter?12:59
delireAntinomy: it will cause all sorts of problems.12:59
FlyingSquirrel32akk: The reason shadow is different is that normally only root can read it, whereas anyone can read passwd.12:59
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Antinomydelire:  forum moderator told me this, some sort of media thing12:59
Antinomydelire: I'll paste the URL01:00
delireAntinomy: it's a vastly different architecture. send me the URL yep.01:00
maddlerAntinomy: btw... check on www.linux-on-laptops.com/compaq.html01:00
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maddlermaybe yopu could find some hint01:00
deliremaddler: good call01:00
maddlerdelire: :)01:01
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naliothAntinomy: how are we today?01:01
maddlerbeside that... I can't really see the point of installing the "wrong" distro...01:01
poningruhow come abc is not availble through the repository?01:01
Antinomynalioth hehehhe01:01
Antinomydelire: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50553&highlight=antinomy01:01
delireok01:01
Antinomynalioth things have gotten strange, my friend01:02
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naliothAntinomy: makes life interesting01:02
Antinomynalioth:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51067&highlight=antinomy01:02
Antinomynalioth you got dat right01:03
occybesides the ubuntupc guys.... who else sells Ubuntu based workstations?01:03
maddlerAntinomy: the only real thing... is the missing flash plugin...01:03
maddleroccy: if you live close to rome (.it) me... :)01:03
maddlergh01:03
occymaddler, heh01:03
delireAntinomy: you're right, you were advised to use the x86 version. odd..01:03
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Antinomymaddler, nalioth, delire: Here's the kicker: I tried doing the 64 install, it tells me it needs me to burn the CD at slower speeds cuz it cant grab dsbutils or something01:04
delireAntinomy: it will run, but i thought it would have been good awful slow for packages compiled for 64bit01:04
z|banditowhat package installs Tcl?01:04
z|banditoand how can i find this information in the future? :)01:04
DaSkreechGoogle!!01:04
DaSkreech:-)01:04
maddlerhttp://packages.ubuntu.com01:05
maddler:)01:05
z|bandito=\01:05
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maddlerand... yes... google! :D01:05
delireAntinomy: right.. well anyway, this is unrelated to the keyboard problem, which should be trivial to fix once booted.01:05
naliothAntinomy: good advice01:05
delirenalioth: impressive the installer mentions this.01:05
wing`anyone there who can help me with XQF? its working ok, but when i added my own server he dont find it (9999). but they are certainly online01:06
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Strifeso I was trying to mess around with ACPI so I could get suspend working on my laptop... by following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryPM?highlight=%28acpi%2901:06
Strifethe problem is01:06
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naliothAntinomy: you'll get more usability out of the i686 arch01:06
Strifethat when I did sudo update-grub like it suggested, that screwed everything up01:06
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delirez|bandito: 'apt-cache search keyword'.. select package from list 'apt-cache show packagename'01:06
StrifeI used to have a kernel option vga=77101:06
Strifewhich got overwritten01:06
Strifeand now I can't get it to actually work again01:07
maddlerStrife: edit menu.lst01:07
Flying-PenguinTriffid_Hunter: this is the linux computer I am working on... I changed driver from nv to nvidia and then I tryed to run glxgears and I got an error (its small so can I pm you?)01:07
maddlerman grub :)01:07
Strifemaddler: clearly... but why doesn't the default kopt actually work?01:07
delirez|bandito: in your case, 'apt-cache search tcl' (CLI) or search for it using synaptic (GUI)01:07
z|banditothanks01:07
Strifeand furthermore, why does a Wiki HOWTO give a wrong step?01:07
maddlerStrife: ask wiki's author...01:08
Strifeokay, well in addition to the vga thing....01:08
StrifeI can't play DVDs now either01:08
delireStrife: problematic yes.. your responsibility to mention this if you are sure the step is wrong and mention it to the author.01:08
maddler:)01:08
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Burgundaviamaddler, which wiki page are you referring to?01:08
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StrifeI'm hoping that if I fix that, then it will work again01:08
Strifebecause I didn't change ANYTHING else01:08
Flying-PenguinTriffid_Hunter: ARE YOU THERE?01:08
StrifeI didn't even install/uninstall software01:08
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delirelol 'Triffid_Hunter'01:08
Triffid_HunterFlying-Penguin: you'll need the nvidia-glx stuff as well to run opengl apps01:09
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Antinomythanks guys we'll see in am inute or two01:09
Antinomyminute, even01:09
Flying-PenguinTriffid_Hunter: let me talk to you in "##linux" as it seems you talk in there more01:09
deliretis late. night all.01:09
Triffid_Hunterhehe ask here for the ubuntu specifics, i just know the general linux pieces you need ;)01:09
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stabfacekillcan someone help explaing to me what kunbuntu is I know its like kde gui but why would I want it? or not want it?01:10
Burgundaviastabfacekill, kubuntu is ubuntu with a kde interface01:10
Triffid_Hunterstabfacekill: cos some people prefer kde over gnome01:10
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stabfacekillis there a significant difference?01:11
Burgundaviastabfacekill, if you have never used linux before, you can try kde, you might like it01:11
naliothstabfacekill: kde and gnome are desktop managers with kde following the human interface guidelines that microsoft follows, and gnome following the HIG that apple follows01:11
stabfacekillah I'm more comfortable with windows so odd's are that I should stick to gnome01:11
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stabfacekillok question two is there a way to put some sort of skin on the gnome icons?01:12
jpoestabfacekill:  KDE is more like windows than Gnome01:12
darkmatterstabfacekill, it just depens on the desktop you prefer. kde tends towards using A LOT of wizards.01:12
AndaresHow do I change my desktop environment from Gnome to <insert environment here>?01:13
z|banditoapt-get tells me that tcl is installed, but when i do locate libtcl.so i get no results..01:13
jnkAndares, you install the other env and choose it at the login prompt01:13
DaSkreechLike a kUbunutDesktop>01:13
darkmatterand the default config looks similar to win 9501:13
Andaresjnk, what does "installing it" entail?01:13
AndaresI'm not using a debian package.01:13
DaSkreechAndares: Apt-get <env>01:13
z|banditohow can i find the tcl installation?  or am I doing something else wrong?01:13
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DaSkreechz|bandito: Are you in a GUI?01:14
AndaresDaSkreech, xpde doesn't have a debian package.01:14
stabfacekillthemse don't apply to everything, and is there a way I can make windows transparent?01:14
z|banditono, i'm logged in via ssh01:14
jnkAndares, if you like the command line, you use apt-get or aptitude, if not you use the synaptic package manager or something like that. Either way what you do is telling the system "install this environment" and it does it for you01:14
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DaSkreechok try sudo apt-get update01:14
Andaresjnk Andares, if you like the command line, you use apt-get or aptitude, if not you use the synaptic package manager or something like that. Either way what you do is telling the system "install this environment" and it does it for you01:14
AndaresDaSkreech, xpde doesn't have a debian package.01:14
DaSkreechthen apt-cache search Tcl01:14
AndaresTcl?01:14
DaSkreechAndares: xp What-now?01:14
Andaresoh.01:14
z|banditoheh01:15
AndaresDAC1138, xpde.01:15
jpoestabfacekill:  For transparancy search www.ubuntuforums.org for transset01:15
Andares*DaS01:15
z|bandito:)01:15
stabfacekillthanks01:15
Andares*DaSkreech01:15
DaSkreechAndares: Yes?01:15
nukyhey guys, i was wandering if you could help me with something.. i'm trying to install my external hard drive and i've gone through lots of tutorials and installed a few usb packages and finally now it shows when i do lsusb as01:15
nukyBus 001 Device 003: ID 0402:5621 ALi Corp. USB 2.0 Storage Device01:15
nukyBus 001 Device 002: ID 046d:c501 Logitech, Inc. Cordless Mouse Receiver01:15
nukyBus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000001:15
AndaresDaSkreech Andares: xp What-now? XPDE.01:15
nukysorry, i didn't realise that would be multiple lines01:15
DaSkreechAs in teh Windows XP Desktop Environment?01:15
AndaresDaSkreech, yep.01:16
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DaSkreechAh01:16
AndaresIt's for Linux.01:16
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DaSkreechAndares: As in the Fisher Price interface?01:16
lsuactiafnernuky : mkdir /mnt/01 ; mount /dev/sd? /mnt/01 where ? defers to something a b c d e f ect should do01:16
AndaresDaSkreech, er.. what?01:16
lsuactiafnerdmesg | grep sd01:16
nukyjust wanted to know if anyone knew where i could find the device to mount it? i'vetried the mount command but it doesn't recognise the01:16
flyingpenguin_Triffid_Hunter: sorry my internet cut out...01:16
flyingpenguin_Triffid_Hunter: you said I need the nvidia-glx stuff what did you mean?01:16
darkmatterDaSkreech: If you like how Windows crashes, xpde will make you feel right at home ;)01:17
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nukyah.. cool.. trying it out now.. thanks01:17
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Andaresdarkmatter, huh? Is it unstable or something?01:17
Triffid_Hunterexactly that.. you need opengl drivers to run opengl apps...01:17
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darkmatterjust a little buggy01:17
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AndaresI am just going to go INSANE if I don't get something like w32.01:17
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DaSkreechAndares: Never heard of XPDE maybe one of the more adventurous can help01:18
flyingpenguin_Triffid_Hunter: ARE YOU THERE?01:18
naliothAndares: xpde is a spittin image of windoze DM for linux01:18
AndaresDaSkreech, You can still help me. Where does Ubuntu keep its list of desktop environments and where can I select different ones?01:18
Andaresnalioth, I know.01:18
AndaresI downloaded it!01:18
naliothAndares: search using synaptic01:18
PurpleBluis there any reason why my Samba is just sitting at the Loading screen?01:18
Andaresnalioth, er..01:18
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darkmatterAndares: it's actually better looking than xp01:18
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AndaresXPDE is not in APT!01:19
buzzzzHi, I'm planning an install of ubuntu on a machine with an intel processor with EM64T, and it seems that I can install the AMD64 version, but my question is can I still install an i386 version of a package if the equivalent ia64 package doesn't exist?01:19
z|banditoi needed the tk8.4-dev package01:19
Andaresdarkmatter, I know.01:19
z|banditoi might have gotten away with just tcl8.4-dev which was required for tk8.4-dev01:19
schasibuzzzz: search for amd64 chroot01:19
schasiI dont think theres another way01:19
AndaresHow do I _manually install_ a window manager? I just need to know that!01:19
schasiBut i _dont_ know01:19
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z|banditotrying to build eggdrop from source on hoary install FYI :)  thanks for the help01:20
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naliothbuzzzz: the pkg can be built easily from the source repositories01:20
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darkmatterAndares: is the package a deb or a source?01:20
Andaresdarkmatter, source and binary.01:20
Andaresno den01:20
Andares*deb01:20
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nukyhmmmm... i tried sda, sdb, sdc,etc... up to g but none of them exist.. how do i find out what it is? i only have one other hard disk.. the internal one, so shouldn't it be sdb?01:20
Andaresit's a .tar.bz2 that extracts to /bin and /src01:20
Andaresand includes an INSTALL file that does not apply to Debian.01:21
AndaresSince there is no .xinitrc file in Ubuntu apparently.01:21
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mikeis there a way you can get a list of all programs you installed (post-base installation?)01:21
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darkmatterAndares: extract to a directory of your choice01:21
buzzzznalioth: I know, I used debian ages ago... but I did enough compiling when i was using gentoo... I'm switching to get away from compiling stuff :)01:21
darkmatterthen cd to the directory01:21
naliothmike: use synaptic and filter with "installed"01:21
jnkmike, dpkg --get-selections (but that really all pacakges installed)01:21
Andaresdarkmatter, ...01:22
mikethanks01:22
Andares/usr/share, but HOW DO I GET THE XSERVER TO LOAD IT?!01:22
AndaresZ.z01:22
samurai7can anybody help tell me how can i install libgcc1 >=1:4.0.0.7 , because when i try it whit ap-get it says that i already have the newest version , but i have the 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 ?01:22
stevenjok I upgraded (security updates) firefox (hoary) and now firefox craxhes when I open extensions?!?01:22
AndaresSorry, I'm a bit stressed here.01:22
darkmatter./configure --prefix=/usr01:22
naliothbuzzzz: afaik, any pkgs avail for i386 but not _64 would have to be build (apt does it automajically)01:22
Andaresdarkmatter, no configure file.01:22
darkmatterhuh?01:22
AndaresGeneral installation instructions:01:23
Andares -Decompress the tar.gz in /usr/share as root01:23
Andares -Edit the .xinitrc file of the user you want to run XPde and put this line:01:23
Andares /usr/share/xpde/bin/startxpde01:23
Andares -Start X01:23
nukywould it be from the /dev/? the drive that is?01:23
Andaresslocate cannot locate a .xinitrc file.01:23
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naliothAndares: no, dont do that01:23
darkmattercheck for a session in gdm. can you select it from there?01:23
Andaresnalioth, huh? So what should I do?01:23
naliothAndares: have you extracted the files to those directories?01:23
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AndaresYes.01:24
AndaresWell, no.01:24
stevenjafter testing If I open extensions first the new firefox crashes but If I open themes (in firefox) and then extensions it opens and no crash01:24
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AndaresI extracted the WHOLE THING to /usr/share/xpde01:24
Andareswhich has subfolders bin and src01:24
Jason-Xstevenj have you logged out and back in again. My firefox was OK after this01:24
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buzzzznalioth: hmmm... so if an ia64 binary didn't exist in the repository, it would fetch the source, and build for ia64... correct?01:24
naliothAndares: Andares ok. hoary doesnt have an xinitrc01:24
occythe LINI PC the LINI PC*** - Hard Drive 10,000 rpm WD Raptor 73G 4.5ms seek time - Modem none - Monitors none - Optical Drive NEC 16X DVD+-r/RW 8X DL - Processor AMD Athlon 64 3700+ ClawHammer - RAM (Memory) 1024 MB RAM - Second Hard Drive none - Sound onboard AC97 sound - TV Tuner, IR remote, FM radio no - Video Cards nVidia 6600GT VGA+DVI+TV - Warranty 1 year - Wireless LAN 802.11g no01:24
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occy$1,291.0001:25
occyhmm01:25
Andaresnalioth, I know. How do I substitute?01:25
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naliothAndares: you need to open READONLY a .desktop file from /usr/share/xsessions and use it as a template to make your xpde startup file01:25
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Andaresk01:25
occyYou'd think there would be someone out there who you could just KNOW had a good Linux box you could buy and everything just worked.01:26
naliothbuzzzz: if the pkg is available for ubuntu, it can be built from ubuntu source for any arch ( i have to do it for my PPC all the time)01:26
stevenjJason-X, I just booted up from last night...01:26
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Kyralumm01:26
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Kyraldid an update to dpkg get released?01:26
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AndaresThanks, nalioth.01:26
AndaresThen what do I do, nalioth?01:26
naliothAndares: when you get done changing the settings to point to xpde, SAVE AS "xpde.desktop" in /usr/share/xsessions01:26
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AndaresOkay.01:26
balkianhiya01:26
AndaresThen how do I select it?01:26
DPadclearHow do you get 5.1 (ac3) decoding to work in mplayer?01:26
stevenjI'll be damned now firefox will not download anything....the new security updates is def. messed up01:27
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AndaresDPadclear, did you download its driver package?01:27
Andares*codec01:27
naliothAndares: after than, you log out or appleicantions > system tools > new login and select "xpde"01:27
AndaresOkay.01:27
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AndaresThanks!01:27
Antinomycan windows see ext3?01:27
darkmatterAndares: log out and select it frome 'sessions' at the gdm screen01:27
balkianis there any solution to the download problem with firefox?01:27
AndaresAntinomy, not without 3rd-party tools.01:27
KyralAntinomy, yes through a program01:27
Jason-Xmine won't download from some site but does from others wierd!01:27
Andaresokay.01:27
AntinomyAndares: but they're out there...01:27
balkiani tried saving link as... but sometimes it doesnt work01:27
AntinomyAndares: do they enable write/read?01:28
buzzzznalioth: cool, thanks01:28
amblin_anyone know why the new FF packages haven't been pulled?  i imagin lots of grandmas out there are getting pretty upset.01:28
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balkiany fijo que ningun espaol01:28
Burgundaviaamblin_, most grandmas don;t have web developer enabled01:28
naliothbuzzzz: np01:28
Burgundaviabalkian, #ubuntu-es01:28
aruwhy would they be pulled?01:28
amblin_oh that is the only issue?01:28
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flyingpenguin_Triffid_Hunter: are you there?01:28
flyingpenguin_traveller: you there?01:29
naliothbalkian: wtf?01:29
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Burgundaviaamblin_, it is only extensions really01:29
balkianwhat?01:29
stevenjis the firefox issue with certain extensions?01:29
Triffid_Hunterflyingpenguin_: what's up? still can't find nvidia-glx?01:29
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Burgundaviastevenj, seems to be01:29
naliothbalkian: ingles, espanol whats next?01:29
amblin_Burgundavia, any extension i thought01:29
flyingpenguin_Triffid_Hunter: I allready had it installed01:29
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Burgundaviaamblin_, some work01:29
balkiandunno01:29
balkianlol01:29
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balkianu said wtf, where am i from?01:29
Triffid_Hunterflyingpenguin_: so why won't glxgears run?01:29
stevenjBurgundavia, please dont tell adblock and tabbrowser?01:30
flyingpenguin_no01:30
flyingpenguin_Triffid_Hunter: can I pm you?01:30
mebaran151Burgundavia, Muine is written in C# right?01:30
naliothbalkian: not really, lol01:30
balkianwhat did u mean?01:30
Burgundaviastevenj, no idea, I run the latest crack (breezy)01:30
Burgundaviamebaran151, correct01:30
Razor-Xmebaran151: I kinda gave up on the Poignant Guide01:30
Burgundaviamebaran151, it has to use C to connect with gstreamer01:30
mebaran151Razor-X, hmm, it is a little wordy01:30
mebaran151you should just look at the examples though01:30
Razor-Xmebaran151: well, wordy's not the thing01:30
balkiani was just tryin xchat, and that was the first channel lol01:30
mebaran151they are pretty neat01:30
stevenjBurgundavia, I tried it...but x would not start and I did not know what to do01:30
Razor-Xwhen I think about programming, I never relate it to real life01:30
Burgundaviastevenj, mileage varies01:31
Razor-Xso, the way he explains things, I just can't relate to it01:31
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mebaran151Razor-X, that is what oop is all about01:31
Razor-Xbut yeah, I do read the examples01:31
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mebaran151creating an object to encapsulate the necessary01:31
balkianwell01:31
mebaran151facet of a real thing01:31
balkianc u soon01:31
balkianubunteros01:31
balkianbye01:31
amblin_Burgundavia, i guess the possibilty of some dead installations is better than reverting back to FF with some known exploits untill 1.06 can be packaged01:31
Razor-Xmebaran151: I use OOP not as a real-life ``interference'', but because it's easier to organize code that way01:31
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balkianwell just another question01:31
Razor-Xcode is more effecient, IMO, if it can be organized in the form of objects01:31
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mebaran151Razor-X, yeah, I understand that, but it boils down to that01:32
mebaran151just look at Chapter 601:32
Razor-Xbut, it's just a programming concept to me01:32
mebaran151the last 3 examples01:32
Razor-Xlike, code blocks being chutes thing01:32
mebaran151oh01:32
mebaran151yeah01:32
mebaran151he goes a little crazy01:32
Razor-Xkinda weird approach, heh01:32
Razor-XI read the examples though01:32
balkiandoes anybody know how can i write with ascii in linux? i mean, like pressing alt+ number, in windows01:32
Razor-Xdon't have the background yet to do it all, though01:32
mebaran151Razor-X, well then the pickaxe is perfect; you seem to want to learn by practice01:32
mebaran151and that is the authorative guide01:33
Razor-Xyeah, Pickaxe works great for me01:33
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Razor-Xbecause it writes in a style where I can interpret it01:33
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AndaresHere goes nothing.01:33
mebaran151it is a big reference book that if you know, you know how to do alot01:33
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mebaran151Why is trying to become an author01:33
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mebaran151(explains some things)01:33
Razor-XI can see that ;)01:33
stevenjhow do I fix firefox now?01:33
Razor-Xstevenj: fix?01:33
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mebaran151Burgundavia, dont know C just C#01:34
nukywhen i plug in my external hard drive, which is recognised by lsusb, i get this when i do tail /var/log/messages01:34
nukyJul 23 00:31:24 localhost kernel: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 401:34
nukyJul 23 00:31:24 localhost kernel: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices01:34
nukyJul 23 00:31:25 localhost usb.agent[17484] :      usb-storage: already loaded01:34
nukydoes anybody know how i can use that to mount it? because all the tutorials say to look for something with hd? or sd?01:34
KyralBackports 1.0.6 works....01:34
Razor-Xnuky: please don't paste more than 3 lines in the channel01:34
mebaran151why doesnt the next version of Ubuntu use Muine instead of Rhythmbox01:34
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Razor-Xuse pastebin or #flood for that01:34
mebaran151it seems to be the better app01:34
Burgundaviamebaran151, I think the only C is the gstreamer wrapper01:34
stevenjRazor-X, after upgrading it wont let uninstall extensions to test if one is conflicting...it wont let download and it keeps crashing01:34
mebaran151Burgundavia, yeah01:34
mebaran151I would figure as such01:34
Burgundaviamebaran151, muine is very good for what it does. It doesnt do some things01:34
Burgundavialike internet radio01:34
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nukysorry01:34
Razor-Xmebaran151: only greivance I have about Pickaxe is that, it explains syntax haphazardly, insofar01:34
mebaran151internet radio is the realm of streamtuner01:35
mebaran151Razor-X, that is the result of it being a reference book01:35
Razor-Xmaybe i'm just too used to legacy books and tutorials, but in my experience, you start with the concept of a variable, then variable types, then expand those concepts01:35
mebaran151Ruby aint like that01:35
Razor-Xfunctions, methods, instances, classes, all come later, from what i've read01:35
mebaran151because ther really are no types01:35
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mebaran151Fixnum is a class01:35
mebaran151that has methods01:35
mebaran151Ruby does not have primitives01:35
Razor-Xyeah01:36
Razor-XRuby's iterating is kinda weird01:36
mebaran151so you cant start with something that doesn't exist01:36
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Razor-Xtook me a while to understand the code block concept01:36
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mebaran151Razor-X, yep ... I still dont quite get it01:36
stevenjok I found my firefox problem--tabbrowser extension is not compatible with the new ubuntu sec. update....at least in my case01:36
MobusDoes anyone know of a good C++ programming environment (not just a compiler) that runs on Ubuntu? prefferasbly with the Borland Graphics Interface, but if it doesn't have it I could always add it.01:36
mebaran151espwhen you nest blocks01:36
andaresHoly ****, XPDE is LOADED with bugs.01:36
stevenjnow everything works fine01:36
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mebaran151it can get01:36
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mebaran151Mobus, Gnome has it its own01:37
Mobuscalled?01:37
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andaresLaunching from the start menu failed, my mouse got stuck dragging a window, and starting xchat crashed the interface.01:37
Mobusg++?01:37
mebaran151ajunta and glade for interface desigh01:37
mebaran151n01:37
Mechcozmohow do you install WINE?01:37
mebaran151ajunta is the frontend to g++01:37
Razor-Xstevenj: change the version string01:37
occyConnect 3D Radeon 9600XT 128MB AGP 8x Video Card  <-- this work with Linux?01:37
mike_Mechcozmo, apt-get install wine01:37
Razor-Xin about:config01:37
mebaran151you could always use emacs if you want a real IDE01:37
Razor-Xsimple azzat01:37
HoofI have hoary installed but why does Gnome always crashses?01:37
darkmatterandares: Yep, just like winxp01:37
aruoccy: ask google01:37
Razor-Xmebaran151: like I do ;)01:37
Mobusfrontend?01:37
MechcozmoMike_ i read their little blurb about using apt-get01:37
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Mechcozmoit said you had to add their server01:38
mebaran151Razor-X, if you are really hardcore ... use vim01:38
Razor-XI got ruby elisp first thing after I decided to buy into ruby01:38
Razor-Xewww, never ;)01:38
mebaran151though on hard days when I dont want to deal with terminal font01:38
mebaran151I use GEdit01:38
Mobuswell., I can't seem to create files in emacs, I can only open them...01:38
occyaru, google not giving me lov01:38
occyerr love01:38
mebaran151it is suprisingly powerful01:38
MobusI likek KATE01:38
Razor-Xahhh, I love my emacs ;)01:38
stevenjRazor-X, how do I do that..thanks01:38
Razor-XKate's nice01:38
mebaran151Kate is nice01:38
Mechcozmorepository01:38
Razor-XMobus: C-x C-f filename01:38
mebaran151GEdit is basically Kate for Gnom01:38
Razor-Xthe file doesen't have to exist01:38
mebaran151though I prefer Kate01:38
Mobusburt there's this dumbass in my tuba section whosae name is Kate, so I don't like usinmg it THAT much...01:38
Razor-Xafter that, C-x C-s and you save it01:38
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Razor-Xif you cant to change the name of the file, C-x C-w01:39
Razor-Xmebaran151: my Eterm is highly customized01:39
Razor-Xsince I use it all the time01:39
aruoccy: http://www.stanford.edu/~fenn/linux/radeon.shtml <- first hit on google01:39
mebaran151heheh I dont use eterms so much01:39
mebaran151I like chvt'ing01:39
occyaru, hmmm ok.01:39
Razor-Xwell, mine's tailored to my specificaitons ;)01:39
andaresdarkmatter, well, at least it runs faster.01:39
Razor-Xas is mon emacs ;)01:39
Antinomyin a dual-boot, do I HAVE to install windows first?01:39
mebaran151I use them enough though that I added transparency01:39
HoofWhy does gnome in Hoary crashing?  I can't add stuffs in the panel, because it crashes everytime...I cant create a new panel either...it's useless...how do i fix this?01:40
Razor-Xand all you people who complain about the RAM emacs uses, it uses 5 times less than KPDF ;)01:40
darkmatterAnybody recommend a good interface for Python? IDLE is great, but it's hard on the eyes (the font's and widgets make me dyslexic)01:40
mebaran151Razor-X, I find emacs too big though01:40
mebaran151as in it could be an OS in itself01:40
occyaru, talks all about RPM and Fedora.01:40
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andaresemacs is a great operating system; all it lacks is a good text editor.01:40
occydon't see no Ubuntu or Debian.01:40
Razor-Xmebaran151: actually, that's a very good feature01:40
occy:(01:40
mebaran151andares, exactly01:40
darkmatterandares: that's it's only grace01:40
Razor-Xever been stuck on a WinXP box with only cmd.exe to help you?01:40
andaresRazor-X, yep.01:40
Razor-XEshell is a godsend, trust me01:40
mebaran151Razor-X, heheh, yep01:40
Mechcozmoyes01:40
andaresEver been stuck in a Linux box with only bash to help you?01:41
Razor-Xand I have no problem about an OS that's smaller than my PDF viewer01:41
Kyralyes01:41
Mechcozmono01:41
Kyralits fun :D01:41
Razor-Xandares: I like BASH ;)01:41
andares:O!01:41
Mechcozmohow do you install WINE?01:41
mebaran151Razor-X, you know the cmd for WinXP01:41
occybetter than just having sh01:41
occyheh01:41
andaresRazor-X, so do I, but not when X DIES!!01:41
mebaran151is not so bad01:41
KyralIts called a base Gentoo install :D01:41
andaresMechcozmo, go to their site.01:41
Razor-Xmebaran151: I do, still pathetic though01:41
Mechcozmoi did01:41
mebaran151it has almost the number features as BASH01:41
Mechcozmoit said to use Synaptic01:41
kyncaniman ... is openoffice heavy ... 125 Mb to open a 2.5 Mb .xls ... and i've still not seen the end of it ...01:41
andaresMechcozmo, they have an APT repository entry you can use.01:41
mebaran151tab completion01:41
mebaran151path's are a little funky01:41
Kyralkyncani, gnumeric?01:41
Razor-Xkyncani: that's why you use LaTeX ;)01:42
kafeinekyncani, dont use openoffice:)01:42
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mebaran151I dont know LaTex well enough01:42
kyncanieeeh01:42
Razor-XI have a copy of XEmacs on the windows box, and a copy of MiKTeX01:42
mebaran151makes me sad :(01:42
KyralI love having a high-end system on a Linux box :D01:42
krowhats an easy way to grab a DNS zone file?  Like, say I want the zone file for foo.com?01:42
mebaran151Kyral, I got 64 bits here01:42
mebaran151it runs everything with out stressing at all01:42
Kyralmebaran151, thats Next summer :D01:42
Mechcozmoandares, it wants be to modify a file01:42
kyncaniKyral: gnumeric would only let me see the last page of this <10 pages docuument01:42
mebaran151all my serving needs, everything rock solid01:42
Mechcozmowhich i've tried before01:42
KyralSYSTEM i686 Ubuntu GNU/Linux, Kernel 2.6.10-5-386, GLIBC 2.3.2 | CPU AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2700+, 2167Mhz, 256KB Cache, 4293 BMIPs | RAM 324/504MB Used | SWAP 29/1474MB Used | STORAGE 5.0MB TmpFS, 19GB Ext3, 19GB unknown, 154GB VFAT, 253MB TmpFS, 256GB Ext3, 603MB ISO9660, 638MB ISO9660 | STATS Uptime 0.41, Users 1/2, Procs 80/36603, Load 0.30 | X11 1280x1024x24bit | http://auk.ca/v01:42
Mechcozmowhich didn't work01:42
mebaran151Kyral, only problem is a lot of programs are a little sketchy01:43
andaresMechcozmo, no it doesn't.01:43
Razor-Xif I save up enough money, on top of my Das Keyboard, i'll buy Lamport's LaTeX book01:43
Kyralwow, holy shit, I was like "WHO THE HELL IS THE OTHER USER!"01:43
andaresYou're doing something wrong.01:43
Mechcozmoyes01:43
mebaran151only thing that stresses it is encoding01:43
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Mechcozmoyou click "Download"01:43
mebaran151not even compiling01:43
Mechcozmothen "Ubuntu"01:43
aukhuh?01:43
Razor-Xmebaran151: I love encoding ;)01:43
Kyralbefore I realized that a SUDO session takes a user :P01:43
aukSYSTEM01:43
mebaran151Razor-X, you use mencoder or transcode01:43
Razor-Xencoding, programming, and writing documentation are what i'm good at01:43
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Razor-Xmebaran151: I haven't tried on a Linux box yet, actually01:43
Mechcozmoit shows an outdated version of Synaptic01:44
Kyralhmm01:44
Kyralhow would I purge something01:44
mebaran151eh, encoding in Windows is sucky01:44
Mechcozmowhich i couldn't figure out01:44
Razor-XI love AVISynth though01:44
Razor-Xmebaran151: not with AVISynth01:44
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Kyrallike kill it and all its depends that aren't being used?01:44
mebaran151nothing beats mencoder01:44
Razor-XLinux needs an AVISynth port01:44
mebaran151we have it01:44
mebaran151acidrip01:44
Mechcozmoand the same deal with the console01:44
Razor-Xreally?01:44
mebaran151try acidrip01:44
Razor-Xfscking crazy!01:44
mebaran151pretty full featured01:44
KyralI need to purge E1701:44
mebaran151I use it to make a script01:45
Razor-Xmmmm, what 3d filters does it support?01:45
jnkKyral, aptitude purge package-name01:45
mebaran151Razor-X, what you encoding01:45
Razor-Xmebaran151: generally, I remaster my crappy anime01:45
mebaran151I meant MPEG4 straight compilations01:45
Kyralcan I use the apt-get command for it? :P01:45
mebaran151haha, basically me too01:45
mebaran151if you want to do anime01:45
Razor-Xand how about rainbow noise filtering?01:45
Mechcozmois there an ffmpeg for Linux01:45
Mechcozmo?01:45
mebaran151Xvid has a codec specifically done for anime01:45
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jnkKyral, not if you want to remove all the dependecies (I think)01:45
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mebaran151Mechcozmo, mencoder is the front end01:45
Razor-Xmebaran151: really?01:45
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Kyraldebfoster :D01:45
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mebaran151if you want a sample01:45
Mechcozmocool01:45
jnkMechcozmo, it's in ubuntu01:45
naliothandares: did you get sorted?01:45
Mechcozmoneat01:46
Mechcozmobut about WINE01:46
robotgeekqt2, u there?01:46
Mechcozmofirst that, then other stuff01:46
Mechcozmo:-)01:46
mebaran151Xvid Anime codecs01:46
mebaran151are pretty good01:46
Kyralet w00t!01:46
Razor-XI started also trying to reencode some of the RvB stuff01:46
jnkKyral, yeah that'll do it01:46
mhzANY one ever installed Ubuntu from HardDisk? or NetBoot???01:46
KyralThe new episode of Full Metal Panic: The Second Raid was released :D01:46
mebaran151Razor-X, not familiar01:46
mebaran151best thing though01:46
mebaran151is Linux doesnt do regions very hard01:46
Razor-Xfor a mere 4 MB, I could remove quite a bit of their rainbow noise, and up the sharpness quite a few fold01:46
mebaran151soft region setting is sufficient01:46
Razor-XKyral: I saw that01:46
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KyralThe second episode?01:47
Razor-XKyral: not seen as in, watched, saw it on Anime Suki01:47
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jaggiHi :)01:47
Mechcozmoso... is anyone going to help with WINE?01:47
Kyralahh01:47
Razor-XI'm gonna get an old version of Azureus01:47
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mebaran151Mechcozmo, WINE is not going to save you01:47
Razor-Xbecause after Decentralization, it's too much for my RAM01:47
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KyralI use BakaUpdates and AnimeSuki :D01:47
Kyralerr01:47
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qt2robotgeek, that i am.01:47
KyralAnimeYume01:47
kyncaniyeah, -INT did it01:48
Razor-XI want to watch Texhnolyze01:48
mebaran151Kyral, I am looking so hard for a box set of Cowboy Bebop01:48
Mechcozmomebaran151: why do you say that?01:48
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satyapfyi... i'm using a livecd to run distributed.net and boinc on one of our windows boxes01:48
Yoda_Sabrehas anyone gotten pengaol to work im kinda stuck with aol at the moment not willingly mind you01:48
jaggimy grub isn't working, and lilo freezes when ubuntu's install is installing it... grub installs, but the system won't boot (comes up with Error 21 prior to the grub menu).  The drive setup is 3 drives, the first 2 are a hardware raid mirror with XP on it, the 3rd is the linux drive.  It's considered sdc when linux is up.  They're really ATA drives, though.01:48
mebaran151Mechcozmo, what are you trying to do01:48
Kyralmebaran151, I know where you can get the entire series.....legality is another question ;P01:48
Mechcozmoinstall WINE01:48
robotgeekqt2, yesterday we used xev, we could also have used showkey, which gives you the keypress, in hex though01:48
Mechcozmoand then play with it01:48
Razor-XYoda_Sabre: Linspire has released the source of a much better AOL dialer called, wait for it, AOL Dialer ;)01:48
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mebaran151Kyral, is the quality any good01:49
Mechcozmoi'm testing Ubuntu to see if it is a good Windows replacement for some friends of mine (as well as me)01:49
mebaran151I am stickler for that01:49
Razor-XI need a better torrent client01:49
Yoda_Sabrei'll look for it then01:49
jaggibeen working on this for a while but I haven't been able to get grub to work right.  I can boot from the ubuntu CD and, after hardware detection, mount the installed linux drive/partition...01:49
Razor-XAzureus is the only one where I can get above 100 k/s speed01:49
Razor-Xbut now, it takes waaaay too much RAM01:49
aruMechcozmo: what do you need to run with WINE?01:49
Razor-Xand i've fiddled with my settings to death01:49
Mechcozmomaybe some old games01:49
Mechcozmodunno01:49
mebaran151things like bittorrent shouldn't be done in Java01:49
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robotgeekRazor-X, have you tried the official bittorent client?01:49
mebaran151either really scripted or totally C01:49
Razor-Xrobotgeek: yeah01:49
Razor-Xmebaran151: no ASM? ;{01:49
mebaran151eh eh, perhaps01:50
Razor-Xs/{/)/01:50
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jaggiHi :)01:50
Razor-Xwoah, the brace gives the smilie a mustache01:50
Mechcozmoaru: maybe some old games...dunno really01:50
Razor-Xthat's my new smilie ;}01:50
mebaran151:{)01:50
robotgeekRazor-X, i get decent speeds with that, azureus keeps crashing for me!01:50
Razor-Xwell, now his lips look all cracked XD01:50
Razor-Xrobotgeek: same here01:50
aruhmm01:50
Razor-Xthe latter is because of RAM01:50
satyaptime to screen -r01:51
robotgeekRazor-X, ppc?01:51
Razor-Xsatyap: -r? hmmm, been a while since i've used screen01:51
Razor-Xrobotgeek: nopes01:51
Mechcozmo~sigh~01:51
blueyedcheers. the weekend has landed.01:51
satyapaye01:51
Razor-Xemacs buffers work fine for me ;)01:51
satyapi have a bunch of dnets running in screens01:51
blueyedscreen is AWESOME, Razor-X :)01:51
Razor-Xblueyed: i've used screen01:51
Razor-Xbut, I prefer my emacs buffers01:52
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HoofWhy does gnome in Hoary crashing?  I can't add stuffs in the panel, because it crashes everytime...I cant create a new panel either...it's useless...how do i fix this?01:52
Razor-Xshell is awesome, as is Eshell01:52
satyaphey, whatever works for you01:52
blueyedRazor-X: I like vi so I never must try emacs, right? ;)01:52
Razor-Xblueyed: hah, ;)01:52
Mechcozmoalright, will someone please tell me how to install WINE!?01:52
Razor-XI used to be a vi user01:52
mebaran151come on it is all about the vim01:52
Razor-Xbut, as you'll say it, I was ``seduced by the dark side''01:52
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Mechcozmoi'm trying to get this to work01:52
satyapbut you can use whatever you want01:53
robotgeekRazor-X, what happened..do u use vim now?01:53
Mechcozmoand becoming fairly angry at it01:53
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Razor-Xrobotgeek: my vim muscle-bindings have undone themselves01:53
satyapapt-get install wine didn't work?01:53
blueyedMechcozmo: you might want to try Crossover Office. It's a project worth to support if it fits your needs and it supplies IE and MS Office ect installs.01:53
Razor-Xi'm much happier too, on this Dvorak keyboard01:53
Mechcozmosatyap: no it didn't work01:53
cw2Hoof: first figure out what you did to break it because mine works fine01:53
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satyapwell, that's the extent of my knowledge01:53
Yoda_Sabregood luck getting something like doom3 running with wine01:53
robotgeekRazor-X, did u buy yourself a emacs foot pedal or something? cause u need 4 hands to use it01:53
Razor-Xblueyed: there is01:53
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Mechcozmoblueyed: don't care about IE nor Office (open office is fine)01:54
Razor-Xrobotgeek: I use just one01:54
Razor-Xsometimes two01:54
blueyedRazor-X: I know, but vi is already an alias for vim..01:54
Razor-Xmaybe it's better tailored to Dvorak *shrugs*01:54
Mechcozmoblueyed: however if it runs any other windows apps, i might be interested01:54
Razor-Xblueyed: vi's nasty, compared to vim, I mean01:54
Mechcozmoif i can install it.....01:54
robotgeekvim has a vi compatibility mode..but u lready knew that!01:54
satyapoooh yeah i9 should get dvorak01:54
blueyedMechcozmo: then use the backports and apt-get (or synaptic) wine.01:54
MrGardenHoseManis there any kind of firewall software for linux or am i going to end up buying a router?01:54
mebaran151blueyed, you don not want it01:54
Razor-XI mean jkl; is all over the place on my keyboard01:54
satyapmy productivity would plummet for a while though01:54
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Mechcozmosynaptic doesn't have wine in it01:54
Mechcozmoyou need to add the repository01:55
robotgeekplus vim now has a rss feed full of useful information!01:55
Mechcozmowhich, so far, hasn't worked01:55
kyncaniMrGardenHoseMan: shorewall, firestarter, ...  apt-cache search -i firewall  for an extensive list01:55
blueyedmebaran151: vi? no, because I have the improved one.. :)01:55
satyapyeah i've seen nothing in that rss01:55
MrGardenHoseManthanks01:55
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satyapMrGardenHoseMan: try firehol01:55
amblin_been this way since hoary i think.. anyone know why i can install new FF extensions but cannot update them?01:55
Razor-Xactually, i'm IRCing in emacs, so, heh01:55
Razor-X;)01:55
robotgeeksatyap, i found it pretty useful. i am a relatively new used01:56
Mechcozmoblueyed: Crossover Office isn't in Synaptic either01:56
Razor-Xamblin_: about:config, change the version string01:56
mebaran151blueeyed the original is just weird01:56
cw2Mechcozmo: i just added the uniserve and multiverse hoary feeds and wine is there and "works"01:56
kafeineMechcozmo, crossover is paid for01:56
Razor-XI don't use Firefox, but I know that much ;)01:56
Yoda_Sabredang it i have to buy aol dialer01:56
Mechcozmokafeine: thanks01:56
satyaper...01:56
Mechcozmocw2: how would i do that?01:56
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blueyedHave a nice night, evening, morning, or lunch.. :) Mechcozmo: get it from the homepage, quite safe.01:56
satyapamblin: permissions?01:56
cw2Mechcozmo: add a repository and check the boxes?01:56
MechcozmoWINE?01:56
Mechcozmoeh?01:56
amblin_Razor-X, got that.. exts install, but if they update and i try to right click update, ff says it's found the update, then hangs01:57
darkmatterMechcozmo: crossover is proprietary, you need to purchase it from codeweavers01:57
blueyedUnfortunately the debian repositories aren't almighty yet. And sometimes even a bit behind (considering stable-releases at least).01:57
amblin_hah hey satyap01:57
Razor-Xamblin_: download them manually01:57
blueyedHAVE A GREA TTIME! w00hoo :)01:57
robert_pectolMrGardenHoseMan:   Wanna try a new firewall that I've been working on for Ubuntu?01:57
amblin_Razor-X, i wanna use FF updater.. that's what it's there for01:57
darkmatterof obtain it by questionable methods01:57
Mechcozmocw2: i tried to do that with WINE's repository however i couldn't figure out how to add it correctly01:57
satyapstable is always behind oh god not this again01:57
Razor-Xamblin_: you can't have everything ;)01:57
Mechcozmocw2: different versions they used01:57
cw2Mechcozmo: is it an ubuntu-wine repo or a debian one?01:58
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satyapamblin: any of this sound familiar?01:58
Mechcozmodebian01:58
cw2Mechcozmo: well duh01:58
Mechcozmo"Wine for Debian based distributions"01:58
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cw2Mechcozmo: just use ubuntu's universe and multiverse01:58
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kyncanirobert_pectol: a firewall especially made for ubuntu ??01:58
Mechcozmocw2: and how do I add those?  I don't see them01:59
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Mechcozmoah i see01:59
Mechcozmoi think01:59
Razor-XI started my btdownloadcurses01:59
robert_pectolkyncani:   Yes... well, more of a firewall script but yes!01:59
Razor-Xlet's see the speed that picks up01:59
Razor-XAzureus blazes at 99 k/s thanks to it's excellent UPnP plugin01:59
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Mechcozmocw2: testing by adding that checkbox02:00
benplautMechcozmo: follow the intructions for adding extra repositories at:  www.ubuntuguide.org02:00
Razor-Xi'm getting 2.8-3.3 k/s now02:00
kyncanirobert_pectol: what does it do ? why is it better than say, using this real easy firewall that's firestarter ?02:00
cw2Mechcozmo: the odd thing is, you add a new repo, choose hoary, then check all the boxes even though you have the other 2 already02:00
Razor-XI can even try btdownloadcurses.bittornado02:00
Razor-XI don't think it'll make that much of a difference02:00
Mechcozmocw2: i think that was messing me up before, thanks02:00
Razor-Xi'm getting 4 k/s02:01
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Razor-Xnow it's 3.302:01
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Razor-X2.502:01
satyaper, maybe there are few seeders?02:01
Razor-Xthis is just sad, robotgeek02:01
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cw2benplaut: those instructions are not the "correct" way, and are useless since the package manager has a working way to do it02:01
Razor-Xsatyap: I was getting 99 k/s here on Azureus02:01
Mechcozmocw2: do I choose winetools?02:01
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Mechcozmocw2: i guess what i want to know is, what package do i choose and how do i then set it up02:02
tom_Hi, I've just installed Ubuntu and am trying to setup my users, I wanted a root account and then 4 user accounts, the account which was made during installation has admin rights but I don't want that account to have them, I know how to take them off but after doing this disables me from installing software using Synaptic, I am also unable to 'su' on my other user accounts, so does anybody have any ideas how I can get 'su' working02:02
tom_ on my other accounts?02:02
cw2Mechcozmo: search for wine, check the box02:02
benplautcw2: well... it's simple copy/paste.. so...02:02
Razor-Xi'm not sure what Azureus does ``right'' but, it does something02:02
Razor-Xand my ports work right, that's for sure02:02
Mechcozmocw2: just "wine" ya?02:02
Razor-Xgasp! 6 k/s!!!!02:02
cw2benplaut: it's still not correct02:02
kafeinetom_, sudo02:02
robert_pectolkyncani:   Well, it's designed to provide stateful packet inspection for your Ubuntu box.  Why is it better?  Well, good question... maybe it's not!  But it is very simple to use and should do a more than adequate job of protecting you.  It's a simple init script with a config file!02:02
benplautcw2: what's not correct about it?02:02
Razor-Xfinishing in 30 hours, excellent ;)02:02
amblin_Razor-X, for what it's worth.. finally found an answer.02:03
hybrid_gothRazor-X!02:03
amblin_https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439502:03
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hybrid_gothu one dail up02:03
Razor-Xhybrid_goth: not a chance02:03
tom_kafeine: I once saw an Ubuntu page about Sudo but have been unable to find it since, do you know where I can find it?02:03
hybrid_gothlol02:03
cw2benplaut: they split one repo up into several lines, it "works", but it realy should be all one line02:03
hybrid_gothRazor-X: ok good :P02:03
kafeinetom_, try the wiki.ubuntu.com02:03
tom_thanks :)02:03
benplautcw2: oh02:03
cw2benplaut: that and they say to use backports, which has a shitload of broken things in it02:03
Razor-Xback to 3.8 k/s02:03
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Razor-Xso, anyone have advice? ;)02:04
tim_i have a tar.gz i need to extract files from. what gzip flags should i use to extract those files to a directory?02:04
cw2Razor-X: if we realy wanted a play by play of your dl status we'd just hack your pc02:04
kyncanirobert_pectol: maybe the real better thing is that its homemade ;) i think i'll stink with my homemade too ;) script that configures shorewall02:04
benplautcw2: i, and many (most?) others haven't had any trouble with backports...02:04
kyncanirobert_pectol: but glad to see you enjoy tweaking your box :)02:04
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cw2Razor-X: if you think it's too slow, deal with it, bt takes a while to hit full speed02:04
Razor-Xcw2: deal with it?02:04
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Razor-Xi've been using BT for 2 years now02:04
robert_pectolkyncani:   It's fun!02:04
Razor-Xit takes about 20 minutes to get to full speed02:05
cw2Razor-X: it's just the way it works, be patient02:05
Razor-Xbut, i've done this before02:05
Mechcozmofound it on the menu hehe02:05
jeranI converted a .rpm to a .deb... now how do I install it?02:05
Razor-XI can wait an hour02:05
Razor-Xand it'll go up in speed not a smidge02:05
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satyapjeran: dpkg -i02:05
cw2Razor-X: and it all depends on how many seeds are on line, how many people are downloading, and how many people leave theirs on after its done02:05
Razor-Xcw2: I know BT theory ;)02:05
Razor-XI was getting 99 k/s on this earlier on Azureus02:06
satyapto extract a tar.gz, tar -xzvf works for me02:06
Razor-Xthat's what i'm trying to say, it's not like this is my first torrent02:06
Razor-XAzureus does something right, I may just downgrade02:06
cw2Razor-X: then you should know that there's not realy anything you can do02:06
Razor-Xbecause speed is all I care about, fsck decentralize02:06
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Razor-Xcw2: was hoping somebody else knew something02:06
kyncanieeeh, azureus is a java prog !02:06
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Razor-Xkyncani: ;)02:07
Razor-XJava has it's uses02:07
Razor-XI use a nice little hypercube prog that is written in Java02:07
cw2java "works" fine, its just a memory hog02:07
Razor-Xit's garbage collection is garbage02:07
amblin_azureus firstt java app i've used that left me saying.. i liked it02:07
kyncanii'll wait till it's gpl-like ;)02:07
mebaran151cw2, even Ruby has better garbage collection02:07
cw2kyncani: there are gpl java implentations02:08
amblin_and it's a freaking hog02:08
Razor-Xmebaran151: if I could read Java source, I would like to write my own torrent client -- in Ruby02:08
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Razor-Xs/it's/its/02:08
cw2Razor-X: if you can read ruby source, you can read java02:08
jeranhow do you install ruby on Ubuntu, while i'm asking questions?02:08
Razor-Xcw2: but, not network specifics02:08
Razor-Xjeran: sudo apt-get install ruby1.802:08
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Razor-Xor aptitude, if you like it better (like me)02:09
kyncanicw2: hope azureus will run with kaffe02:09
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satyapor run the package manager02:09
jeranRazor-X: Will that get everything? Like IRB and all that?02:09
Razor-Xjeran: no02:09
satyapIRB!02:09
amblin_very doubtful it will run with kaffe02:09
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Razor-Xthat's the thing I don't like about the way Debian/Ubuntu distributes Ruby02:09
kyncaniNope, azureus depends on sun-j2sdk1.502:09
Razor-Xyou have to get anything sperate yourself02:09
Razor-Xsudo apt-get install irb1.802:09
Razor-Xsudo apt-get install ri1.802:10
jeranril?02:10
Razor-Xand whatever else you want02:10
jeranerr02:10
jeranri1.8?02:10
Razor-Xmebaran151: I saw a ruby/SDL wrapper02:10
amblin_rails will grab a few dependancies for ya02:10
Razor-Xjeran: ri is ruby documentation02:10
jeranoh yeah.. I'm use to using  ridoc, heh02:10
Razor-Xand don't forget to alias out irb and ruby02:10
Razor-Xbecause the 1.8 is annoying02:11
jeranThis sounds confusing already, lol02:11
jeranI'll leave that alone for now..02:11
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Razor-Xwell, I like it better than the supposed ``One Click Installer'' for windows02:11
jnr_Ubun2hi list. how do i disable the password dialog box when connecting to ubuntu from windows on a network?02:11
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kyncanijnr_Ubun2: use ssh ??02:11
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tom_Hey, is it possible for me to setup a user account which is able to run Synaptic only if the root password is given?02:12
Razor-Xok, back to Tales of Symphonia ;)02:12
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jnr_Ubun2kyncani, i'm trying to share the printer02:12
kafeinetom_, default accounts should be like this02:13
kyncanitom_: don't put this user in the admin group, enable root login. This user will have to use "su -c synaptic".02:13
jnr_Ubun2kyncani, did all the smb configurations, just that password thing bothering me. how do i get rid of it?02:13
Velcancan anyone suggest a good, easy to use, dvd ripper / encoder02:13
jnr_Ubun2allow all access02:13
kyncanijnr_Ubun2: sorry, no experience here :(02:13
jnr_Ubun2without any password box02:13
tom_I see, that's what I was looking for, thanks again :)02:13
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kafeine:)02:14
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cfulleri can't get via drivers to work right on a mini-itx can someone help02:14
jnr_Ubun2Kyncani, it's the access right? where to look.02:15
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Mobuswhat's the name of the "Frontend" for g++?02:15
slask3nhow do i set a sounddevice as standard? i have the soundoutput on the mainboard, but the mic is in the webcam thats connected through usb.. i have made it work in gnomemeeting, but i cant get it work in skype.. :s i actually just have to select the camera as mic in skype but i cant find any options for that in skype.. but it would be nice if i could have selected it as standard mic globally in the system, and not only in skype...02:16
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kafeinegnight02:16
amblin_Mobus, frontend or ide?02:17
kyncanijnr_Ubun2: you'll have to ask someone else, i have no experience in windows or samba, sorry :(02:17
Mobuside02:17
satyapouty02:17
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amblin_lots of them fo g++ but anjuta is gnome02:18
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Mobusanjuta, its aNA ide?02:18
MobusIS IT IN SYNAPTIC?02:18
Mobussry02:18
Mobuscaps02:18
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amblin_yes02:19
kyncaniMobus: sure, next time, just type "apt-cache policy anjuta" or search -> anjuta in synaptic02:19
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amblin_i was about to suggest apt-cach search02:20
Mobusyeah I just serched02:20
Mobusbut I always download from the commabnd line02:20
MobusI never download from the GUI02:20
kyncaniMobus: apt-cache search -i anjuta  then :)02:21
Mobustanks02:21
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kyncaniMobus: why do you download from cmd line and install from gui ?02:22
kyncaniwhy not go all command line or all gui ?02:22
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MobusI don't02:22
MobusI search in the GUI02:22
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Mobusand download and install rom the command line02:22
scottis there a package that links all the basic compiling tools?02:22
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kyncaniscott: build-essential ?02:23
scottkyncani: thanks02:23
Mobusdoes G++ come with the Borland Graphics Interface?02:23
amblin_no02:23
Mobusok...02:23
Mobusdoes it come with conio.h?02:23
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Mobusit had better02:24
Mobusi mean02:24
MobusI had a trial version of microsoft visual C++02:24
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Mobusman it sucked02:24
Mobusit had like NOTHING!02:24
amblin_why the bgi requirement?02:24
dices2Mobus: you use gnome or kde ?02:25
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Mechcozmocan't download anything!02:25
phixionwhat version of Firefox you using?02:25
dices2wget is your friend02:25
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kyncaniMobus: apt-file search conio.h  will tell you which package provide conio.h if any (there are). You'll have to install apt-file though02:25
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Mechcozmouh, whatever one came with ubuntu02:26
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Mechcozmophixion: whatever version came with Ubuntu02:26
gorothbonjour02:26
Mechcozmoapple trademarked that02:26
Mechcozmo:-p02:26
phixionu run an apt-get upgrade?02:26
Mechcozmoyeah02:26
Mechcozmowell02:26
Mechcozmoused the Ubuntu updater02:26
FlimFlamManetch or ubuntu - which would you pick for a semi-stable workstation?   :-)02:26
Mechcozmobut it updated02:26
scottI've heard some new apps are back-ported (what's the proper word they use?) to hoary. are some of these, like a newer version of totem, in some other repository/02:26
gorothdo you help me in french?02:27
Razor-Xgoroth: try #ubuntu-fr02:27
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goroththanx02:27
cfullerneed help with installing on a mini-itx with via chipset02:27
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darkmatterFlimFlamMan: Ubuntu, but only 'coz net-install takes to long02:27
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Mechcozmocfuller....ya?02:28
sonohello friends... is anybody having problems with firefox (amd64) after this morning's ubuntu updates?02:28
Mechcozmoyeah02:28
Mechcozmocan't download?02:28
kyncanisono: plenty, read /topic02:28
cfullerthe gui locks up and i can't seen to get the right video driver via doesn't work02:28
sonoOh I see...02:28
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sonothx dudes02:28
FlimFlamManwhat is the firefox issue?02:28
jnr_Ubun2i'm trying to allow access to my ubuntu machine on the network so i can print. I had trouble with the password box. How can i get rid of it?. Y'know the usual password box. It's a linux thing, where do you configure access rights etc.?02:28
sonogonna read02:28
Mechcozmoi can't download02:28
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MechcozmoAthlon 2500+02:29
kyncaniFIREFOX: security update that break firefox if you're using some extensions (like tabextension for example)02:29
sonodownload, install extensions, open left bars, and is totally an app problem, have tried much. gonna read now.02:29
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poningruok what do you people recomend for torrent client?02:29
dices2Azureous02:29
Mechcozmokyncani: i've got a virgin FF install, no extentions02:29
Mechcozmothat's what i was TRYING to install :-)02:29
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poningruazureus sucks02:30
poningruit uses up too much resources02:30
jnr_Ubun2Where do you configure access rights?02:30
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poningrudoes ABC work on linux?02:30
dices2Azureus does his thing good, better than the rest personally lol02:30
poningruwell yeah but too much resources02:30
amblin_jnr_Ubun2, you using cups directly or samba?02:30
poningruhogging02:30
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mikeare there other anti-virus scanners besides clamav?02:30
dices2Azereus plenty to burn =P02:30
mikeclamav alsways says i need to upgrade. dont know if i'm still protected or not02:31
poningrutornado does not allow more than one download at a time02:31
poningrufor some reason02:31
darkmattermike: fprot02:31
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Razor-XI just downgraded ym Azureus02:31
Razor-Xs/ym/my/02:31
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jnr_Ubun2amblin, i'm using Samba02:31
Razor-Xnow i'm a much happier person, indeed02:31
jnr_Ubun2amblin_, i'm using Samba02:31
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poningruanyone tried ABC in linux?02:31
cccponingru: use the one that comes with ubuntu if you want lightweight.02:32
Razor-XI tried bittornado and BitTorrent default02:32
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Razor-Xboth don't get good speed, for me02:32
poningruccc: which one?02:32
IIIEarsmike - clamav is okay it doesn't search very deeply in compressed files. - give f-prot a shot (also free)02:32
Razor-Xi'm gonna try console-ui for Azureus later02:32
poningrucause tornado only gets one download at a time02:32
kyncaniponingru: gnome-btdownload's cool02:32
poningruoh02:32
Razor-Xponingru: btdownloadmany02:32
poningrulet me try that02:32
mikealright02:33
phixionif gnome-btdownload or bittorrent had download spd cap id use em :/02:33
daryleI use Azureus and get decent speed.02:33
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poningruRazor-X: is that package?02:33
mikethanks IIIears02:33
Razor-Xponingru: nopes02:33
Xyc0Is there an applet that accurately tells your wireless signal strength?  Network Monitor doesn't do that.02:33
Razor-Xincluded in either BitTorrent or BitTornado02:33
Razor-Xor just lump it in a screen session02:33
Razor-Xone thing really needs to be made in Linux, embeddable mini-screen sessions02:33
Razor-Xthat can handle multiple instances of one program, like for you vi users, or multiple console apps, or such02:33
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Razor-Xand they can be embedded in screen sessions02:34
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Razor-Xno need for that in emacs buffers, but screen is still pretty awesome, don't wish any ill on the project ;)02:34
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scottanyone know the name of the X dev packages?02:34
Xyc0What is the name of an applet that reports the current wireless signal strength?02:34
phixionthere is no way of capping dload speed in bittorent right?02:34
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bruker11Hi! Can I install kubuntu from a harddisk?  I've added initrd.gz and vmlinuz in /boot and booted installer from lilo sucsessfully. But installer gives no option for installation from hard disk (fat32)02:34
Razor-Xphixion: of _course_ there is!02:35
phixioncommand?02:35
mrd`scott: x-dev?02:35
Razor-XI cap mine at 19 k/s02:35
phixioni run btdownloadcurses with max_upload_rate...02:35
Razor-Xphixion: what client are you using?02:35
Razor-Xwell, that should do it, i'ld think02:35
scottmrd`: thanks02:35
Razor-Xworks for me, anywho02:35
phixionbittorrent02:35
mrd`scott: If that doesn't have what you want, try xlibs-dev.02:35
mebaran151scott, x-dev02:35
mebaran151wil get most of them02:35
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darkmatterscott: x-window-system-dev02:35
mebaran151gtk-dev will get alot of them too02:35
jmspeexAny plans on updating firefox? 1.0.2 is kinda buggy...02:35
phixionwell, im running azureus atm, but id rather use bittorrent, if there was a way to cap dload speed.02:35
mrd`Anyone have a working link to the video of Mark Shuttleworth singing?02:35
Xyc0bruker11: http://www.kubuntu.org/02:36
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kyncanibruker11: i don't think you can install gnu/linux on fat32. You need reiserfs or ext3 (for the most popular ones)02:36
jon__awesome.02:36
jnr_Ubun2Can anyone recommend any OS Internet timing software - i.e. for a wireless02:36
jnr_Ubun2gateway in an Internet caf, so people can buy prepaid time etc.?02:36
bogabruker11: nope! That is not possible the way you are trying.02:36
darkmatterthat's the dev meta package02:36
lsuactiafnerjnr_Ubun2 : rtc in your kernel... /dev/rtc02:36
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lsuactiafnerreal time clock02:36
bruker11boga: so what to do then?02:36
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nukyhi, i've made lots of progress and just need a teeny bit of help to complete my usb hard disk installation.. if anyone can help PLEEEEEASE IM me as i don't want to clutter up the chat.. thanks heaps in advance.. i'm nearly done..02:37
IIIEarsjnr_Ubun2 - try sourceforge - there are several02:37
kyncanibruker11: use the installer to format your fat32 partition to reiserfs or ext302:37
cccjon__: :D02:37
hybrid_gothIIIEars: when are we throwing that winxp bashin party?02:37
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Xyc0Is there a reason that Ubuntu installs on EXT3 as opposed to RiserFS?02:38
bruker11I am installing FROM a fat32 partition, NOT to it. The installation partitions are ok02:38
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IIIEarshehe - i just got lazy and pitched it in a dumpster.02:38
bruker11sourcetarget i mean02:38
sproingieXyc0: defaults are easier to support.  use the expert installer if you want something else. i installed mine on xfs02:38
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Xyc0sproingie: but why pick Ext3?02:38
FLeiXiuSsproingie: Wouldn't XFS be a bit slower for local file moving.02:38
poningruRazor-X: are you saying bittornado should handle more than one download at a time?02:38
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Razor-X1.5 hrs remaining in my download ;)02:39
sproingieXyc0: because it's stable02:39
Razor-Xponingru: I thought it could02:39
kyncanibruker11: oh, got it wrong then, sorry02:39
Razor-Xbut, if not, use a screen session02:39
sproingieFLeiXiuS: xfs is zoomzoom fast on x86-6402:39
hybrid_gothRazor-X: what  pirated d/l are you getting now?02:39
bruker11got no burner you see...02:39
Razor-Xoh yeah, is Reiser4 supported by Ubuntu?02:39
IIIEarshybrid_goth - salvaged a pair of very nice 40g HDs- (packrat lol)02:39
darkmattersproingie: so is Reiser02:39
Razor-Xhybrid_goth: it (this one, at least) isn't pirated ;)02:39
hybrid_gothRazor-X: yes it is02:39
Razor-Xit's anime02:39
FLeiXiuSsproingie: I can concur with you on that one :-P.  But, I've not about to create a chroot environment.  I'm opposed to that.02:39
Razor-Xerrr, wait....02:39
kafeineRazor-X, no it isn't:) not yet, anyway02:39
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Razor-X*cough* i'm downloading nothing02:39
kafeineit still aint in vanilla02:40
Xyc0darkmatter: I donno, i just tried reiser, and i get alot of package errors02:40
dices2Anyone knows if it is possible to mount a partition making the owner of all the files in it to the one that mounts it ?  (ext3 partition)02:40
sproingiedarkmatter: i don't trust reiserfs, i've had it eat my data several times02:40
Razor-Xit's anime, thought, i'll admit that much02:40
hybrid_gothRazor-X: ok dont d/l wedding crashers or charlie and chocolate factory from mininova02:40
hybrid_gothanime pwns02:40
Razor-Xs/<\ht\>/h/02:40
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hybrid_gothRazor-X: ?02:40
Razor-Xok02:40
Razor-Xthat's a regexp02:40
Xyc0I AM 100% RID OF M$ weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee02:40
Razor-X(if I got it right)02:40
hybrid_gothRazor-X: the mpaa is seeding it02:40
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Razor-Xhybrid_goth: ahhh, really?02:41
=== Razor-X sweats
hybrid_gothXyc0: congrats02:41
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Razor-Xbut, is the movie a real movie? XD02:41
Xyc0cedega helps alot02:41
hybrid_gothRazor-X: yup it was on digg.com and i followed it up02:41
mrd`Ubuntu defaults to ext3 because it works well enough for most users and gracefully handles abrupt loss of power.02:41
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Razor-XI'm thinking of making a nice little partition of Reiser4 on here02:41
hybrid_gothRazor-X: no it is to catch ppl like us-- err you02:41
Razor-Xhybrid_goth: hehe, I understand02:41
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Razor-XI don't download movies much, though, mostly anime02:41
kyncaniXyc0: cedega for games ?02:42
catolhIs the libxcom included in the ubuntu package? Trying to install Firefox 1.0.6 but i get the message i dont have libxcom..02:42
sproingielibxcom: libufodefense02:42
Xyc0kyncani: yea, the only thing holding me back from borking windows02:42
kyncaniXyc0: i understand.02:42
hybrid_gothRazor-X: i get music and videos like systm02:42
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bruker11if i can not use a hard disk as source for installation of kubuntu, i'll stick with slack02:42
Razor-Xhybrid_goth: I occasionally get music, quite occasionally02:42
Xyc0kyncani: there are alot of FPS now for linux02:42
Razor-XI get books a lot, though02:43
Razor-Xnot fiction, nonfiction02:43
Xyc0UT, Doom, Quake02:43
hybrid_gothRazor-X: i got AC/DC back in black from bt it was AWESOME02:43
kyncaniXyc0: got unreal and nwn, they're fine. Still missing some real-time strategy though02:43
dices2Anyone knows if it is possible to mount a partition making the owner of all the files in it to the one that mounts it ?  (ext3 partition)02:43
Razor-Xhybrid_goth: they need more FLAC on BT02:43
hybrid_gothRazor-X: i get programming books from it that and hitchhikers guide02:43
Xyc0kyncani: every try glob2?02:43
Xyc0ever*02:43
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Razor-Xhybrid_goth: yeah, programming books here02:44
hybrid_gothRazor-X: flac? ogg!02:44
darkmatterNWN is sweet under Linux02:44
sproingieogg is lossy.  flac is not02:44
IIIEarskyncani - UT loki UT-2k4 native , FarCry loki, Americas Army,MOHAA etc02:44
Razor-Xhybrid_goth: ogg is lossy02:44
hybrid_gothis flac open source02:44
Razor-XI rip everything in FLAC02:44
mrd`Yes.02:44
Razor-Xof _course_02:44
hybrid_gothlol02:44
naliothhybrid_goth: yes02:44
Razor-XFREE Lossless Audio Codec02:44
kyncaniXyc0: once i think, (felt not that entertaning though) .. looking for smthing like starcraft, warcraft, aoe02:44
Razor-XFree as in libre, not as in beer02:44
hybrid_gothlol02:44
Xyc0kyncani: SC works great on cedega02:44
mrd`It's free as in both.02:44
hybrid_gothRazor-X: may have to try that. how big is a standard flac song02:45
sproingiewhat's flac's compression ratio like?02:45
kyncaniXyc0: a little old though ;)02:45
Razor-Xhybrid_goth: well, FLAC can do about 50% compression02:45
Xyc0SC rocks02:45
Xyc0:D02:45
Razor-Xnothing compared to MP3 or OGG, but awesome quality02:45
IIIEarskyncani - loki has adapted installers for quite a few popular games.02:45
hybrid_gothwow02:45
kyncaniXyc0: i have sc and war3 on wine, they're fine02:45
Razor-Xbut it can do magic to Classical02:45
mikewhen installing programs should i move the tar.gz file to /usr/bin or /usr/sbin?02:45
mrd`mike: You shouldn't put a tar.gz file in either of those.02:46
kyncaniIIIEars: yeah, i've seen one the other day i may try, don't remember the name right now02:46
Razor-Xright now I have Iced Earth (Night of the Stormrider) and Pink Floyd (Dark Side of The Moon (missing two songs, thanks to a friend who abused his CD)) on my HDD right now02:46
mikefolder only? mrd`?02:46
Xyc0kyncani: wine has always been iffy with me02:46
mrd`mike: What's in the .tar.gz file?02:46
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hybrid_gothRazor-X: ever listen too NIN? or Lamb of God? i love Floyd and Iced Earth02:46
mikeclam-av02:47
IIIEarsWine is a "PIA" - better than gin i have heard though. - lol02:47
hybrid_gotho_002:47
mrd`mike: Is it a source package for it?02:47
mikeyea02:47
hybrid_gothIIIEars: heh02:47
ubuntuhere on live cd, how to extract pics of my digital cam?02:47
mikei have it already from apt mrd` but its an older version02:47
MuelliHi Folks! My MPlayer and all other progs are hanging while accessing my sound (i suggest..) .. How to debug this?02:48
mrd`mike: Is the version from apt not new enough for you?02:48
mikesynaptic doesn' have the newest one, so i downloaded the new source02:48
Xyc0Muelli: Change the output plugin to one that supports your sound drivers02:48
ubuntuMuelli I got the same problem here!02:48
kyncaniXyc0,IIIEars: there were this one game, but i think it needs an old libc. That may be the sign that it won't be supported in a year or two ..02:48
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kyncani(don't remember the name)02:49
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Xyc0good info he he02:49
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kyncani:)02:49
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MuelliXyc0: It isn't that easy 'cos all my sound is scrambled up I think.. Every Software which wants to access my sound hangs up... O_o02:50
amblin_Muelli, system->preferences->multimedia system selector, what's the default sink for audio output02:50
codecainecan someone tell me how to keep speedstep_centrino from loading up?02:50
MuelliESD02:50
Xyc0Muelli: That is because it is using the wrong output02:50
Gnobodyis x still broken on breezy?02:50
Xyc0Muelli: Pick a program you wanna fix, maybe i can walk you through02:50
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MuelliHmm.. the test passes *g*02:50
kyncaniXyc0,IIIEars: kohan, immortal sovereigns, that was the title :)02:51
Muellithe sink is esdsink02:51
Razor-Xuggghhh!02:51
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Razor-Xanother CPU spike02:51
mrd`mike: Have you looked at clamav-freshclam?02:51
Razor-Xwhy?! I downgraded Azureus02:51
Razor-Xhmmm, just the JAR02:51
Razor-Xi'm gonna rip the whole thing out02:51
IIIEarssounds good - just frustrated enough with my struggle with ditributing restore images over lan at this moment to try a new games02:52
codecainewhere do i go to keep modules from loading in the kernel???02:52
Razor-Xmaybe because there's too much RAM being used... hmmm :(02:52
MuelliHmm.. But why does my ALSA not work, or better: How do I get it work?02:52
amblin_kyncani, loki did a "real" linux port of kohan if i remember correctly02:53
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kyncaniamblin: yeah, i think so. But as i said, it needs and old glibc and maybe that's a sign that it won't work at all in a year or two ?02:54
Xyc0Muelli: What sound driver are you using?02:54
amblin_ywah02:54
amblin_err yeah02:54
mrd`You can have multiple libcs installed.02:55
amblin_i miss loki... so much down the tubes02:55
Razor-Xhmmmm, wow, I only have 22948 MB of memory not used...02:55
Xyc0Razor-X: what did you fill it with02:55
hybrid_gothRazor-X: that pR0n fills up HHD quick02:55
Razor-Xnot HDD02:56
Razor-Xpsshhh, my HDD is a 40 GB02:56
hybrid_gothheh02:56
Razor-Xand this partition is 5 GB02:56
Xyc0Hot Hard Drive02:56
Xyc0with the pron02:56
hybrid_gothharddrive disc02:56
hybrid_gothlol02:56
Razor-Xcat /proc/meminfo: Inactive: 22948 kb02:56
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MuelliXyc0, a good question.. I didnt built the kernel... :-\ How do I check that out?02:56
mrd`Hard disk drive, but who's counting.02:57
codecainewhat's the equivalent to /etc/modules.conf in ubuntu???02:57
mrd`codecaine: /etc/modules maybe?02:57
Xyc0Muelli: well, lets start with what sound card you are using.02:57
codecainemrd, yes thanks02:57
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codecainearch linux02:57
IIIEarsRazor - nonone talks about the good pr0n does for the hardware manufacturing industry. - a lot of new hard drives needed - lol02:58
codecainemrd, im looking to stop speedstep_centrino from loading but its not in /etc/modules where else would it be loaded?02:58
hybrid_gothIIIEars: wget is nice for pR0n right nalioth ?02:58
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mrd`codecaine: You want /etc/hotplug/blacklist then.02:58
codecainemrd, ok.  which file is actually loading it?02:58
mrd`IIIEars: It's also responsible for advancing broadband, new video codecs, and jpeg2000's adoption.02:58
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IIIEarsheh02:59
hybrid_gothmrd`: really?02:59
hybrid_goth=D02:59
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Razor-Xhello?02:59
MuelliHmm Xyc0.. I think it should be Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)02:59
Razor-Xahh, there we are02:59
amblin_id go with broadband.. no lie02:59
Razor-Xneeded a router restart hmmm02:59
mrd`codecaine: hotplug is loading it because it probably thinks you have a centrino system; if you add speedstep_centrino to /etc/hotplug/blacklist, it won't load it at boot time.02:59
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Xyc0Muelli: I would use Esound03:00
hybrid_gothRazor-X: linksys wireless b?03:00
codecainemrd, thanks yes i do have centrino, but i need to try and remove it so my system runs full speed always, as im seeing performance issues with a centrino 1.6ghz03:00
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Razor-Xhybrid_goth: Netgear MR something-er-other03:00
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hybrid_gothRazor-X: ah cuz i got to reset mine when power goes out03:01
codecainemrd, how about laptop_mode, doesn't that turn down the disks too?  sometimes system takes a sec to respond quickly03:01
Razor-Xno, I needed to restart because the webadmin stopped working03:01
MuelliXyc: I suppose thats a good idea, but why shouldn't I use ALSA? Or is that something completly different?03:01
Razor-Xguess even routers need restarts03:01
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Razor-Xhaven't restarted this in half a year, I'm guessing03:01
scottis there an easy way to have make/autogen etc output colored?03:01
mrd`codecaine: I *suspect* hotplug is auto loading laptop_mode too, but I can't be certain.03:02
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hybrid_gothRazor-X: wow03:02
codecainemrd`, i think laptop_mode is in 2.6 kernel???03:02
codecaineit's not a module showing up in lsmod03:02
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Xyc0Muelli: ALSA is for Audigy class soundcards03:02
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mrd`codecaine: /etc/default/laptop-mode03:03
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Muelliargs03:03
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codecainemrd`, sweet thanks man.03:03
codecainefast answers!03:04
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codecainemrd`, what do i need to restart to make laptop-mode change go in effect?03:04
MuelliXyc0: We are talking 'bout drivers, right? Kind of kernel addons to communicate with the hardware. You're sure, that ALSA is just for Audigy Soundcards? Well, anyway. I need something what (emulates) ALSA or OSS :-\03:05
mrd`codecaine: Run 'sudo /usr/sbin/laptop-mode stop'.03:05
Xyc0Muelli: What exactly is your goal?03:05
mrd`Muelli: No, ALSA is for all sound cards.03:05
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mrd`Xyc0: ALSA stands for Advanced Linux Sound Architecture.03:06
codecainemrd`, great. impressive.03:06
MuelliMy primary goal is to get stepmania working. Stepmania needs ALSA or OSS hardware. Secondary goal is to get mplayer & stuff working properly.03:06
mrd`Muelli: Do you have sound in Ubuntu?03:07
amblin_Muelli, system->preferences->multimedia system selector, what's the default sink for audio output03:07
codecainemrd`, for speedstep to unload would i have to logout completely to do that?03:07
hacked`guys, how can i find out what kind of wifi card i have on my laptop03:07
Xyc0Muelli: use oss, alsa is not for all sound cards03:07
Antinomyhelp!03:07
amblin_if it's alsa.. then that's will be a prblem03:07
hacked`i mean its working, i just want to know03:07
AntinomyI got ubuntu to run03:07
codecainehacked`, maybe hal-device-manager03:07
mrd`Xyc0: Stop spreading lies, ALSA is for everything.03:07
Antinomyit doesn't recognize my keyboard03:07
mrd`codecaine: 'sudo rmmod speedstep_centrino'.03:07
codecainemrd`, tried that said it was in use?03:07
Antinomybut the mouse works03:07
mrd`codecaine: What's 'lsmod | grep speedstep_centrino' show?03:08
AntinomyI'm at the splah - any mouse only ops I can do to fix this?03:08
codecainemrd`, agh other dependencies on it, kill them first right?03:08
mrd`codecaine: Most likely.03:08
MuelliXyc0: k.. Then howto use OSS. I mean, i got snd_*_oss loaded :-\03:08
PurpleBluI am having a Samba problem.  I have been sitting in the Samba channel for several minutes.  Can anyone help?03:08
mrd`Muelli: You have ALSA, and Ubuntu includes OSS emulation by default.03:09
mrd`Muelli: Are you actually experiencing that StepMania isn't working for you, or are you making sure you have everything you need ahead of time?03:09
codecainemrd`, freq_table, processor has depend on speedstep03:09
codecainemrd`, try removing those and it says in use by speedstep03:09
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mrd`codecaine: You can use 'rmmod -f' to force them to be removed... it /should/ be safe, but no promises. :)03:10
mrd`codecaine: If you're concerned, rebooting is probably the safest bet.03:10
Muellimrd`: Stepmania is telling me, that it couldn't open /dev/dsp :-\03:10
codecainemrd`, ok think ill try force :)03:10
MuelliAnd by the way all my multimedia apps seem to be broken. At least they hang when they should play a movie or something03:10
amblin_Muelli, are you using stock ubuntu, gnome?03:11
Muelli(maybe a reboot helps *g*)03:11
mrd`Muelli: You have a '/dev/dsp' device, right?03:11
codecainemrd`, worked03:11
mrd`codecaine: Cool.03:11
codecainemrd`, thank you for your help03:11
koji-kabuto-workGood night, they excuse, installs Mplayer with codecs that explains the guide, I I want to reproduce video in mozilla-firefox.  Install mplayerplug-in, you load the buffer and when reproducing remains unemployed, who can be?03:11
mrd`codecaine: No problem.03:11
Muellimrd`: Yeah. At least I got an entry in my filesystem named /dev/dsp *g*03:12
Xyc0did anyone get what koji-kabuto-work said?03:12
Muelliamblin: what do you mean by "stock ubuntu" ?03:12
mrd`koji-kabuto-work: Pardon?03:12
Xyc0I think hes using a translator03:12
mrd`Muelli: He's just making sure you haven't messed around with the system or are using something other than Ubuntu 5.04 or 4.10.03:13
koji-kabuto-workMplayer in firefox does not work to me03:13
slask3nhow do i set a sounddevice as standard? i have the soundoutput on the mainboard, but the mic is in the webcam thats connected through usb.. i have made it work in gnomemeeting, but i cant get it work in skype.. :s i actually just have to select the camera as mic in skype but i cant find any options for that in skype.. but it would be nice if i could have selected it as standard mic globally in the system, and not only in skype...03:13
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codecainemrd`, im looking in /proc/cpufreq /proc/cpuinfo i dont see where it says what my current processor speed is, is this the correct place to look?03:14
amblin_koji-kabuto-work, you have installed mozplugger?03:14
mrd`codecaine: In /proc/cpuinfo, the 'cpu MHz' line is your current speed.03:14
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codecainemrd`, stuck on 500mhz then, im running 1.6ghz03:15
codecainemrd`, a reboot would maybe fix that?03:15
mrd`slask3n: You can specify your default audio source in System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector.03:15
IIIEars mrd - is there a command toprint that info to screen without opening the file/03:15
koji-kabuto-workamblin _ everything installed including mozplugger03:15
mrd`codecaine: Check if powernowd is running (e.g. 'ps -A | grep powernowd')03:15
amblin_mrd`, im guessing that he has it set to alsa instead of esound?03:15
mrd`IIIEars: What info?03:15
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codecainemrd`, yes it is03:16
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IIIEarsmrd - cpu frequency?03:16
PurpleBluAnyone use Samba around here?03:16
mrd`codecaine: Try killing it.03:16
codecainemrd`, is powernowd something that works with speedstep_centrino?03:16
hybrid_gothPurpleBlu: yes03:16
nukyhi, i'm trying to install my external usb hard disk and once i plug it in it says that everything is ok in the /var/log/messages but then after a while (a few minutes) this gets added:Jul 23 02:13:27 localhost kernel: acpi-cpufreq: Transition failed, Jul 23 02:13:30 localhost kernel: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 3 channel 0 id 0 lun 0, does anyone know what that means?03:16
mrd`IIIEars: Like 'grep "cpu MHz" /proc/cpuinfo'?03:16
mrd`Muelli: Is this a single user system?03:16
koji-kabuto-workthe buffer this good, but the reproduction does not make it03:16
IIIEarsmrd - ah - nice tip03:17
IIIEarsThanks :)03:17
PurpleBluhybrid_goth I am having problems getting it to work.  I got to Administrative mode, and nothing03:17
amblin_koji-kabuto-work, can mplayer play the video outside of firefox?03:17
codecainemrd`, killed but still same mhz03:17
mrd`IIIEars: I suppose 'grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo' is even simpler.03:17
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hybrid_gothPurpleBlu: what are you going to connect to?03:17
mrd`codecaine: Hm... my next guess would be reboot, sorry. :)03:17
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codecainemrd`, no biggie, should i stop powernowd from starting too?03:18
BockBilboanyone knows whats the name of those typical window maker docks?03:18
PurpleBluhybrid_goth I was told I can network a external HDD with a Windows Box if I used Samba03:18
koji-kabuto-workif, it reproduces videos without problems, single the problem is with firefox03:18
mrd`codecaine: It probably wouldn't hurt, though I don't expect it can do anything without speedstep_centrino loaded.03:18
IIIEarsmrd' - GAWD i LOVE linux. - hehe03:18
PurpleBluhybrid_goth I wanna network my external HDD.  Cause on Linux box I have the USB 2.003:19
hybrid_gothPurpleBlu: yes in windows turn on file sharing and share that HDD03:19
hybrid_gothis the HDD on the linux or windows box03:19
Muellimrd`: Yes it is03:19
andaresChinese? =O!03:19
codecainemrd`, ok03:19
PurpleBluhybrid_goth I want to connect the HDD to Linux box.  The share it from there.  Can I do that?03:19
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koji-kabuto-worksingle the problem is with firefox03:20
hybrid_gothPurpleBlu: yes03:20
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codecainemrd`, doing all this because if i load debian sarg with gnome my system is snappy, yet ubuntu is a bit sluggish03:20
codecainemrd`, i was thinking maybe cause all these modules03:20
nukywhen i plug in the usb drive, it is recognised and everything by ubuntu but there is no associates sd? to it.. does anyone know how i get that? all the tutorials say it's in the /var/log/messages when i plug it in but that only says about the scsi..03:20
hybrid_gothPurpleBlu: windows file sharing needs to be on03:20
Velcanwhat's the command again to run the xorg reconfig script?03:20
codecainenuky, i normally do a tail /var/log/messages or dmesg03:20
hybrid_gothimho it would be easier to connect it to the windows box03:20
IIIEarsPerpleBlu - Yes you can. - works very well. - takes a few moments for your machine to be accepted on the lan so be patient.03:20
mrd`codecaine: It's possible... on my system I actually prefer having the extra battery time over a super speedy system. :)03:20
PurpleBluhybrid_goth can you walk me through what I got to do?03:20
koji-kabuto-workmplayer reproduces PC videos03:20
hybrid_gothPurpleBlu: /msg me03:21
codecainemrd`, i got spoiled by xfce.  wow that is a snappy experience03:21
mrd`Muelli: Hm... so you're using the user account the installer created for you too?03:21
mrd`codecaine: Pfft, tty0. :)03:21
codecainemrd`, tty0?03:21
nukycodecaine: yeah i tried tail /var/log/messages but there's no section that mentions an sd? value.. only scsi3...03:22
IIIEarsPurpleBlu - taskbar > places > connect to server or connect to servers and select "windows share03:22
Velcan!xorg03:22
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Velcan03:22
mrd`codecaine: I think the first virtual terminal... but maybe I just made that up.03:22
codecainenuky, i thought you said a usb device?03:22
Velcan:(03:22
Muellimrd`: yes. Why aer you asking?03:22
kyncaniVelcan: dpkg-reconfigure ?03:22
Velcanyea03:22
codecainemrd`, oh ok thats what i had figured03:22
nukyi formatted it to fat32 too03:22
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codecaineps/0 is console tty's are ssh's right?03:22
mrd`Muelli: Just making sure that you should have access to /dev/dsp.03:22
Velcanwhat's the last part03:22
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Velcanxsession-xorg er something03:22
kyncaniVelcan: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:22
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Velcankk thanks03:23
kyncani;)03:23
codecainemrd`, do you use vi or vim?03:23
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mrd`codecaine: Emacs.03:23
mrd`Muelli: Has sound ever worked for you since installing Ubuntu?03:23
codecainemrd`, agh was gonna ask if sometimes you get like a second or two delay after you write a change and close like :wq03:23
Muellimrd`,03:24
Muelliarg03:24
nukyplease can anyone help with this.. i have tried all the tutorials i could find... i just need to know where to get a sd? from so i can mount.. because my linux doesn't seem to be assigning one automatically..03:24
codecainenuky, for usb drive?03:24
nukyyeah03:24
mrd`nuky: Do you have /dev/sda1 or anything?03:24
Muellimrd`: yeah. It actually does :-) xine plays sound03:24
IIIEarsPurpleBlu - consider Openssh for file transfers - a bit more effort to set up but less likely hacked03:25
mrd`Muelli: Hm...03:25
nukynah, there aren't any sda or anything.. but in the device manager and lsusb, the usb mass storage drive is recognised03:25
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MuelliI think I'll try a reboot in a minute :-/03:25
mrd`nuky: Is udev running? ('ps -A | grep udev')03:26
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nukyi think so.. it outputted:  1140 ?        00:00:00 udevd03:26
mrd`Hm.03:27
pc1_excuse, not to be written ingles well03:27
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sproingie!es03:28
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:28
nukyi can hear the disk spinning too.. before when it didn't recognise it, the disk didn't do anything but now the little red light is on on the casing but it doesn't go off or do anything..03:28
hybrid_gothhow do you share a folder in linux03:29
mrd`nuky: Sorry, no clue... I would expect udev would have added it automagically, but if it's not I'm lost.03:29
[2] BoxingFiend!fr03:29
ubotufr is, like, http://fr.ubuntuguide.org/ "Merci" to fr.ubuntuguide.org03:29
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[2] BoxingFiend!vi03:29
ubotu[2] BoxingFiend: I don't know, could you explain it?03:29
codecainenuky, does hal-device-manager let u know anything?03:29
IIIEarshybrid_goth - right click03:30
nukyso i think it's trying to do something. and at the end of my /var/log/messages there's this line appearing every so often: Jul 23 02:21:00 localhost kernel: acpi-cpufreq: Transition failed03:30
koji-kabuto--mmmm   that channel nobody conversation, thanks03:30
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codecainenuky, that looks unrelated to me03:30
jon__hello, im having a problem with ubuntu, i cant load xwindows and the error i get is XIO: IO error 104 connection reset by peer on xserver :0:003:30
nukycodecaine: ah ok, trying it now.. not tried it yet03:30
jon__can someone help me03:30
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mrd`jon__: What's causing that error?03:31
IIIEarsjon__ - Ask away. - grin - we don't bite. (hybrid_goth has had all of his shots.)03:31
mrd`jon__: Er, sorry, what're you doing that caused that error?03:31
nukyoh, the device manager.. yeah it recognises it and has listed it as USB 2.0 mass storage device03:31
nukythen there's an scsi host interface under it03:32
jon__well i couldnt change my screen resolution past 640x480 in gnome03:32
mrd`!xwindows03:32
ubotumrd`: No idea03:32
jon__so i went about editing xorg.config03:32
jon__eventually i deleted it and created a new one with xorg -configure03:32
jon__somewhere along the line xwindows stopped loading and i get an error about no screens found03:32
jon__and that one, the connection reset by peer error03:32
jon__im thinking i should reinstall my xserver but i dont know how because im very new (and grateful to have found this channel)03:33
codecainejon__, did you create a backup?03:33
IIIEarsjon_ - i am kinda new but i am guessing that your video card is using the wrong pci address interface. - try lspci - then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:33
jon__=)03:33
jon__no i didnt03:33
jon__iiiears: ok03:33
codecainedpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should help out03:33
jon__iiears: what switches should i use with lspci?03:33
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AhabI have a quesion about the backports project.  I need to use warty as opposed to hoary, on a paticular machine.  Looking around the ubuntu unoffical guide and the backports pages they just talk about hoary.  Where can I find a url to put in my sources.list file for warty backport packages?03:34
IIIEarsjon__ - lspci - and a long scroll   - maybe lspci | more03:34
AhabI tried google with not much luck.03:35
jon__im very new to linux and i've never used the lspci command before so i dont know what arguments or switches to include03:35
jon__i dont even know what the point of using it is03:35
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mrd`jon__: lspci -v will give you a more verbose listing.03:37
poningruanyone using bitornado does it allow more than one download at once?03:37
mrd`jon__: The man pages are also useful if you're going to be poking around in the command line for long, e.g. 'man lspci'.03:37
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IIIEarsjon__ - ls is list pci is pci devices03:37
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slask3nmrd`: sorry, for responding so slow.. but in smutimedia system selector, i can only select alsa, esd, oss, silence or custom.. i want to select my cam as my default microphone and not the input on the soundcard.. do you know how to do that?03:38
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b_e_n_zwhenever i download stuff from within firefox (like clicking on a file), it blinks for a second and nothing happens...03:39
mrd`slask3n: Sorry, I don't know how Skype is accessing your webcam's mic... do you have many other applications that you need to configure for your mic?03:40
hacked`guys03:40
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hacked`what do i have to search for in synaptic to get the linux source files03:40
desrtlinux-source03:41
crimsunhacked`: linux-source-2.6.1003:41
codecainelinux-source03:41
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skyhawkerafter installation of ubuntu, how can I mount an ntfs partition? I was not able to set the root password in setup, though I believe I changed it in 'Users and Groups' still can't login as root03:41
codecainecaptive-ntfs?03:41
crimsun!tell skyhawker about sudo03:41
jon__i get this error: i810(0) no valid modes03:41
codecaineor the ntfs libs03:41
hybrid_goth!root03:41
uboturumour has it, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo03:41
slask3nmrd`: skype uses the systemwide default input device.. and thats the inputchannel on my soundcard and not the webcam, this is what i need to change03:41
desrtskyhawker; with ubuntu you don't login as root03:41
jon__when using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:41
desrtskyhawker; you login as your normal user and use sudo to execute commands as root03:42
hacked`thanks guys, the readme that im reading says that i need the kernel include files and configuration must be available03:42
mrd`slask3n: Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you said you configured Skype to use a different input source than the system default.03:42
mrd`slask3n: Do you know if your webcam's mic is supported by Linux?03:42
poningruI think we need two support rooms03:42
nukywooo hooo!! :D i got the external usb hdd working... i set everything and restarted but this time with it powered on.. does anyone have any suggestions as to how i can work around that? as i had to plug the double ended usb to my pc to give it power and i won't always have the other pc around..03:42
hacked`guys, have any of you install the madwifi driver in ubuntu ?03:42
poningruone for a little expert help03:42
poningruand one for noob help03:42
desrthacked`; ya.  from CVS.  works awesomely.03:42
poningrufor people like me03:42
IIIEarsjon__ - add the info to the bus identifier exactly as it it prints out add a 0 (zero if needed - computers just don't translate things well.03:42
hacked`desrt, do you mind giving me a hand if you can03:43
desrthacked`; are you on hoary or breezy?03:43
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jon__iiiears: in xorg.conf?03:43
hacked`hoary03:43
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skyhawkerah that makes sense, so mounting the ntfs partitions should be no problem with sudo? (and accessable from normal user)03:43
desrthacked`; hoary comes with its own version in the restricted modules... should work... what card do you have?03:43
hacked`desrt, im not really sure, i know its a cisco aironet03:43
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nukynow that it is mounted, is there anything i can add to my fstab that would automatically mount it, even if it isn't turned on when i boot linux?03:44
hacked`desrt, problem is that i cant set my card to monitor mode, apparently with the madwifi driver i can03:44
mrd`skyhawker: Yes.03:44
desrthacked`; hmm.  for me that just worked right away03:44
desrthacked`; using kismet?03:44
IIIEarsjon__ - dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is much easier. - less possibiility of typos03:44
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codecainenuky, yes03:44
hacked`desrt, that is correct03:44
stabfacekillis there someway to make a second menu bar in kubutu?03:45
jon__iiiears: well that is what i used and i got the error concerning no valid modes for my chipset03:45
desrthacked`; i was just able to type 'sudo kismet'03:45
slask3nmrd`: no, im sorry my english is bad.. but the mic in the cam is working in gnomemeeting cause i can select inpputdevice there...03:45
hacked`desrt, its not as if my card doesnt work, it works, but i'd like to use madwifi, how can i tell what driver im using for my wifi card03:45
desrthacked`; i had to setup the kismet config file first... but it's pretty self-explanatory03:45
mrd`codecaine: The bigger issue is that udev isn't creating the device nodes---/etc/fstab won't do you any good otherwise.03:45
jon__the pci address i got from lspci is 0000:00:02.0, so what should i do with that?03:45
mrd`slask3n: Are there other applications that you use your mic with?03:45
desrthacked`; hm.  good question.03:45
stabfacekillis there someway to make a second bar in kubutu?03:45
codecainemrd`, agh yeah so that won't work03:45
IIIEarsjon__ - If you can CHEAT copy a working xorg file from a working session (live CD?)03:45
hacked`guys, how can i know what driver my wifi card is using03:45
desrthacked`; well... see if the ath driver is loaded03:46
desrtlsmod | grep ath03:46
hacked`no output03:46
desrtyou're not using madwifi03:46
jon__iiears: i have a live cd, how would i copy the working xorg.conf over without a floppy drive?03:46
hacked`i want to then03:46
desrthacked`; not all cisco aironet cards work with madwifi03:46
IIIEarsjon__ - hm - email?03:46
desrthacked`; most of them work with airo_cs03:46
hacked`desrt, how do i know03:46
jon__this channel is lovely by the way, im glad to finally fid support03:47
mrd`jon__: Boot the live cd, mount the hard disk, then directly copy the file?03:47
desrthacked`; b or g?03:47
IIIEarsjon__ - ubuntu.pastebin.com03:47
hacked`desrt, on the madwifi page, they say Cisco Aironet CB21AG03:47
hacked`desrt, g03:47
desrt!03:47
desrtweird.03:47
ubotudesrt: I don't know03:47
desrtok.  that's one of the madwifi ones, then03:47
slask3nmrd`, at least i think thats the problem.. that its not the systewide default.. but im not 100% sure.. no i have just tested it in gnomemeeting, and tried to test it in sound recorder now, but i have to reboot, cause the sound recorder and stuff is hanging.. are you here in 5 minutes? i need to reboot, the system is getting unstable :s03:47
hacked`ya but i dont know which model i have03:47
nukyi'm really sorry for asking without trying this but i'm worried i'll mess it up and won't be able to see the drive again.. but it's something along these lines that i add to my fstab: /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbdrive auto user,noauto 0 0 ?03:47
jon__i dont have a browser for my install though, because i have no xwindows03:47
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stabfacekillis there someway to make a second desktop bar in kubutu?03:47
desrthacked`; oh.. is it a pc card?03:47
hacked`minipci03:47
mrd`slask3n: Yeah, I should still be here.03:48
desrtthat should have said "it isn't..." :)03:48
jon__mrd`: i will try that03:48
slask3n=)03:48
desrthacked`; try lspci03:48
desrthacked`; it will tell you03:48
jon__where is the live cd xorg.conf stored?03:48
skyhawkerwhat's a good way to find out what hda#s my NTFS partitions are, and how do I mount them03:48
mrd`jon__: Same place it is now, /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:48
skyhawkerI tried the mount command, but I don't think I know enough about it yet03:48
IIIEarsjon__ - apologies - i am really new.03:48
benplautwell...03:48
hacked`desrt: desrt: all it says is: 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: AIRONET Wireless Communications Cisco Aironet Wireless 802.11b03:48
benplautWineTools works03:48
codecainemrd`, thanks again for help my system is faster now03:48
desrthacked`; you're sure it's a 'g' card?03:49
benplautCrossover Office works03:49
mrd`nuky: That looks right, but it won't do you any good if the device nodes aren't created correctly.03:49
hacked`if im not mistaken it is03:49
desrthacked`; the card seems to think it's b03:49
benplautwhat more is there to life?03:49
hacked`desrt, want me to pull it out ?03:49
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benplautoh, i forgot03:49
nukymrd`: what do you mean? if it doesn't assign the sda? stuff?03:49
IIIEarsjon__ - hm - possible to save it to the restore partition of your windows drive (fat32) - not dead simple but easier than wget03:49
benplautWireless only half works :P03:49
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codecainenuky, /dev/sda1 won't exist so it won't work03:50
desrthacked`; might be an idea?03:50
desrthacked`; lsmod | grep airo03:50
ramblingturtleskyhawker:  try a program called gparted03:50
codecainenuky, udevd creates those device files automagically03:50
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desrtjust out of curiosity03:50
mrd`nuky: That line tells 'mount' to use /dev/sda1 for it's data, but if /dev/sda1 doesn't exist it won't do you any good.03:50
hacked`airo       63776  003:50
desrtand it's working?03:50
hacked`sure is03:50
desrtyou -so- have a b card :)03:50
nukyoh i see.. making a little more sense now.. hmm... thanks.. will try some other stuff and see what happens..03:51
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hacked`quite possible03:51
jon__iiiears: so how would i do that?03:51
hacked`can with try with this madwifi, or whats the situation03:51
desrthacked`; not unless it's a g03:51
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stabfacekillis there someway to make a second desktop bar in kubutu?03:52
desrtlike, you can try to load the atheros drivers.. but it will almost definitely just do nothing03:52
hacked`desrt, why not unless its a g03:52
desrthacked`; the two different models of the card (b, g) use two different chipsets03:52
desrtand therefore two different drivers03:52
hacked`so CB21AG is g?03:52
anto9usstabfacekill: yes, but you'll find better answers in #kubuntu I would bet03:52
desrtyes03:52
stabfacekilloh I'm sorry03:52
mrd`stabfacekill: Sorry, I can't help you, but fyi it's 'kubuntu', not 'kubutu'.03:52
stabfacekillI didn't know it existed03:52
hacked`want me to pull it out to confirm? i thought in windows it was a g03:53
anto9usstabfacekill: no problem :)03:53
desrthacked`; sure.. take a look03:53
desrthacked`; write down the exact model number too.. and any part numbers or anything you find03:53
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hacked`desrt, dont leave though03:53
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desrthacked`; k.03:53
desrtbtw03:53
desrtyou can try 'modprobe ath_pci'03:54
nukyok.. i don't think it's linux.. it seems to be that the laptop usb doesn't provide enough power for it.. and it has to have an external power supply of some sort.. then it's fine and assigns all the necessary sda things...03:54
desrthacked`; but i doubt it will do anything :)03:54
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codecainenuky, looks like you figured it out03:54
slask3nmrd`: i cant make sound recorder record anything :s03:54
nukythanks guys.. :)03:54
mrd`slask3n: What webcam do you have?03:54
PurpleBluIIIEars, Okay when I got to Remote Places I see Samba Share and add Netwrok Folder03:54
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hacked`desrt: says cisco aironet mp1350    u58h004.03     0344096-0003:55
anto9usslask3n: have you checked your mixer settings?03:55
slask3nLogitech Quickcam Messenger03:55
codecainemrd`, i got another for ya.  when i run prelink on my system firefox, thunderbird don't prelink cause it says can't find some of the dependent libraries, do you know anything about that?03:55
desrthacked`; b03:55
slask3nanto9us: yes03:55
luckyaba_does anyone know how to get a graphical verson of bitchx.. mine only works in the terminal.. i am on gnome with ubuntu03:55
IIIEarsPurpleBlu - change to your windows machine for the right path name enter that on your linux machine.03:56
mrd`luckyaba_: bitchx is terminal only... you should look at Xchat or Gaim if you want a gui client.03:56
hacked`desrt, that sucks, so theres no way to get kismet to work then is there03:56
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anto9usslask3n: and your capture device is selected?03:56
desrthacked`; not unless the cisco driver does monitor mode (i don't know if it does)03:56
PurpleBluIIIEars, wait say that again.  I have both machines next to be.  Linux Desktop and Windows Notebook.03:56
luckyaba_ohh... well ill be03:56
luckyaba_ty03:56
slask3nmrd`: it didnt work at all earlier today but a guy here was kind enough to fix it for me.. he fixed the alsa settings and the mixer03:57
mrd`codecaine: Not sure, do you know where the libraries it's complaining about are located on the hard drive?  If so, check that they're listed in /etc/prelink.conf.03:57
benplautXchat is really good.. try it03:57
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luckyaba_thats what im using now03:57
desrthacked`; see this maybe http://www.bastard.net/~kos/wifi/monitor-cisco.html03:57
codecainemrd`, ok i will look thx03:57
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slask3nmrd`: so now my only prob is to get it defaulti think...03:57
codecainemrd`, make sure the paths to those libs are listed in that file?03:58
slask3nanto9us: what capture setting?03:58
mrd`slask3n: Is the Multimedia Systems Selector set to ALSA?03:58
slask3nanto9us: what capture device i mean03:58
anto9usslask3n: you need to set the device that captures the recording in the mixer03:58
slask3nno it was set to esd, but now its alsa03:59
mrd`codecaine: I *think* so... I'm not familiar enough with the /etc/prelink.conf file to know if those directories are recursively crawled or not... but adding extras shouldn't hurt.03:59
poningruanyone know why bitornado is not allowing me to download more than one file at a time?03:59
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dabaRls04:00
desrthmm04:00
codecainek04:00
codecainemrd`, where do you live?04:00
desrtmy wireless access point sends out beacons very erratically04:00
mrd`codecaine: Texas.04:00
luckyaba_does anyone know about proxies and shell accounts?04:01
hybrid_gothfor...04:01
luckyaba_I'm wondering if it would be worth it to get a shell account or can i just use free proxy for irc.. net ?04:01
slask3naah.. fuck.. now it seems to fucked up real bad again.. now im getting the "could not open resource for writing" errror again when i try to play a file/sound04:01
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hybrid_gothwatch the language plz04:02
slask3nsorry04:02
dabaRmine too... its ok04:02
mrd`luckyaba_: Whether it's worth it depends on what you want to do with it.04:02
slask3njust really pissed and depressed right now..04:02
codecainemrd`, do you work in it?04:02
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luckyaba_slask3n: try killall esd04:02
mrd`codecaine: Huh?04:02
MIK3MANhey peeps04:03
codecainemrd`, IT (information tech) lol04:03
codecainemrd`, do you work as linux admin or similar for work?04:03
dabaRslask3n: what program, do you have esd running?04:03
mrd`codecaine: Oh, no.  I'm a lowly CS student so I have a worthless job maintaining Visual Basic apps. >_>04:03
slask3nluckyaba_: no proccesses killed04:03
dabaRyo MIK3MAN04:03
MIK3MANI can say that I finally tried afew flavors of linux and I am back to ubuntu04:03
codecainemrd`, wow no kidding!04:03
MIK3MANdabaR: hey04:03
luckyaba_slask3n: can you only play 1 sound at a time?04:03
codecainemrd`, completely two different worlds04:03
hacked`desrt, i ordered an orinoco gold which uses the atheros driver, do you think ubuntu will detect it ?04:04
poningruso no one has a clue?04:04
desrthacked`; maybe04:04
dices2mrd i almost feel sorry for you04:04
desrt:)04:04
mrd`codecaine: Yep.04:04
codecainemrd`, how old?04:04
desrthacked`; i'm using a d-link DWL-G65004:04
mrd`codecaine: 20.04:04
desrthoary has some issues with it out of the box... but the CVS drivers are great04:04
codecainemrd`, how much time left for CS degree?04:04
mrd`codecaine: Um... two years?04:05
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dabaRyes, hacked` /me thinks too.04:05
MIK3MANdesrt: if you are having network probs I can help, I have the same hardware :O)04:05
desrtMIK3MAN; nope.  working great here :)04:05
slask3nluckyaba_ dabaR: no i cant play any sound at all cause i just get "could not open resource for writing" and no apps is running except xchat, console and gaim04:05
desrtMIK3MAN; 'cept it prevents my powerbook from going to sleep if it's plugged in04:05
dabaRso what app are you trying ot play sound in, and have you typed in esd in a terrminal followed by enter.04:05
desrtMIK3MAN; but such is the life of running CVS :)04:05
MIK3MANdesrt: ok cool, just checkin cause you know we have to configure, yeah I know... heh04:06
dabaResd should make a sound.04:06
anto9usponingru: it sounds like an application specific problem, maybe you could try bittornado's forums04:06
desrtMIK3MAN; :)04:06
codecainemrd`, what you pushing to do for job after cs?04:06
desrtMIK3MAN; thanks for the offer04:06
MIK3MANdesrt: np04:06
mrd`codecaine: Not sure, but anything free software related.04:07
MIK3MANponingru: I spent 2 freakin days configuring bittornado... you have a prob?04:07
codecainemrd`, good for you04:07
Razor-Xhaha04:07
Razor-Xgot my Azureus working! ;)04:07
dabaRRazor-X: you think its funny?04:07
poningruMIK3MAN: oh any help would be awesome04:07
Muellihm.. howto use ALSA on my box?04:07
poningruthe problem is04:07
luckyaba_slask3n: have you installed alsa and tried that?04:07
Razor-XMIK3MAN: 3 days?04:07
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Razor-XdabaR: I didn't laugh at anyone, just happy because of Azureus04:08
Muelliin fact I assume, that i run esd...04:08
MIK3MAN<Razor-X>: 2 days04:08
dabaRRazor-X: dont laugh like that.04:08
hybrid_gothdabaR: ? o_004:08
Razor-XdabaR: fine fine04:08
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dabaRok04:08
MIK3MANponingru: hold on I will help04:08
razerslutcan someone walk me through copying over my live cd xorg.conf to my installed ubuntu partition?04:09
poningruit cant download more than one torrent at a time04:09
codecainemdr, when i change wireless settings, i deactivate and reactivate, when i do this the wireless applet in gnome shows yellow exclamation mark, how to reset it?  its wireless connection.04:09
Razor-XMIK3MAN: I get nohting on BitTornado04:09
DAC1138Razor-X, no emotion allowed in here04:09
poningruRazor-X: yep04:09
dabaRnothing.04:09
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hybrid_gothDAC1138: heh04:09
Muellimrd`: Do you know how to switch from esd to ALSA? OR is this impossible?04:09
poningruoops I meant razerslut04:09
dabaRif youre happy, that means a ubuntu angel dies.04:09
DAC1138codecaine, can you use both wired and wireless network at the same time?04:09
dabaRha04:09
dabaRslask3n: wtf, is it working yet?04:09
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razerslutponingru: walk awya =)04:10
razerslutaway04:10
MIK3MANok first Razor: stupid question, you have compiled and are running btdownloadgui.py right?04:10
mrd`Muelli: It's not an either-or situation.  esd is just a sound demon that uses alsa/oss.04:10
codecainedark, yes04:10
codecaineDAC1138, yes04:10
poningrurazerslut: can you extract that xorg.conf from the cd?04:10
MrGardenHoseManwhat's the command to remove a full directory04:10
dabaRMuelli: did you try your System menu?04:10
MrGardenHoseManwell more like what's the flag for rmdir04:10
dabaRMrGardenHoseMan: which one?04:10
razerslutponingru: im not sure, let me try04:10
mrd`MrGardenHoseMan: 'rm -rf'04:10
codecaineDAC1138, creates a route for both interfaces04:10
DAC1138codecaine, okay, different than my problem/solution then04:11
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MrGardenHoseManthanks04:11
razerslutponingru: i dont know what directory it would be under on the live cd04:11
razerslutcan you tell me?04:11
poningrurazerslut: let me see04:11
poningruhmm04:11
coffeehi04:11
poningruhold on04:11
dabaRhi.04:11
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mrd`razerslut: What's wrong?04:11
coffeeI got a pb with gksudo and mount04:11
MuellidabaR: I tried System -> Multimedia. But when I try to change to ALSA it complains, that its not able to install a pipe or something...04:12
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razerslutmrd`: im trying to find xorg.conf on my live cd so i can copy it onto my install partition and see if i can get xwindows running again04:12
dabaRcoffee: what problem>?04:12
coffeewhen I do: sudo mount -o ro,loop  /home/alucard/download/systemrescuecd-x86-0.2.15.iso /media/iso it works04:12
Razor-XMIK3MAN: I didn't compile (I don't think so) and no, i'm running btdownloadcurses04:12
CentaurWhy doesn't ubuntu detect the newest upgrade of gaim?04:12
mrd`razerslut: Is it not in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?04:12
Muellimrd`: Hmm.. how come, that I can't change to ALSA in Gnome System Menu?04:12
dabaRMuelli: wel, it cant open a pipe, install it, somehow.04:12
coffeebut if I do: gksudo mount -o ro,loop  /home/alucard/download/systemrescuecd-x86-0.2.15.iso /media/iso04:12
coffeeit doesn't04:12
shane_reidi am brand new to ubuntu and havent used linux in a year or so, I finally got my damn broadcom wlan driver up, i can connect to the AP but i cant go to the real internet (ie. google.com)04:12
shane_reidcan someone help me?04:12
luckyaba_Centaur: either your repository is old or they haven't updated it yet04:13
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razersluter04:13
razerslutyes, it is04:13
razerslutso how do i mount another partition from this live ubuntu?04:13
MIK3MANRazor-X: you need to download and compile then run btdownloadgui.py, after that we can check the status on your connections04:13
coffeegksudo umount /media/iso    doesn't work but gksudo umount "/media/iso" works04:14
bob2wtf04:14
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bob2there's no need to "compile" python code04:14
mrd`Muelli: You should be able to... are you having a problem changing it?04:14
anto9usshane_reid: has the AP issued you an IP address?04:14
bob2and bittorrent and bittornado are in ubuntu already04:14
shane_reidcan someone please help with my network??04:14
coffee gksudo "mount -o ro,loop  /home/alucard/download/systemrescuecd-x86-0.2.15.iso /media/iso"04:14
coffeedoesn't work either04:14
shane_reidanto9us: yes, it has, i can go to http://192.168.0.1 and login to the router04:14
Razor-XI am not here right now because Azuerus is spiking CPU,p lease standb y04:14
Centaurluckyaba_: What if I reloaded the repository though?04:14
codecainemdr, how to reset wireless, when i make change to network applet, it stays with yellow exclamation like theirs a problem when theirs not??04:14
slask3ndabaR, luckyaba_, mrd` : thanks for all the help, but now im so pissed off and tired (its 4am here) so im goig to get some sleep and try again tomorrow... :)04:15
Muellimrd`: Yes. I really have :-( Its a german error message, so i dunno how to translate it correctly *g*04:15
coffeegood night slask3n04:15
luckyaba_Centaur: that might work... or maybe try another repositry?04:15
dabaRlatah04:15
luckyaba_slask3n: good luck night04:15
MuelliJust S04:15
codecaineturn on COMEDY CENTRAL funny stuff04:15
slask3nthanks =)04:15
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MuelliJust ESD is working. Neither ALSA nor OSS..04:16
Centaurluckyaba_: How can I find out what new repositories I can put in?04:16
dabaRcoffee: tried the other way which seems more correct? like  gksudo mount -o ro,loop "/home/alucard/download/systemrescuecd-x86-0.2.15.iso /media/iso"04:16
nukyhow do you uninstall things that you install using make?04:16
codecainemake uninstall04:16
dabaRMuelli: thst is what is installed.04:16
Muelliand cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp doesn't make any noise :-\04:17
codecainei guess depends on if the makefile had an uninstall script04:17
nukyoh.. hehe.. thanks.. installed a lot of crap in the wrong place...04:17
mrd`Muelli: Hm... but you said xine plays sound fine?04:17
coffeenow it works with  gksudo "mount -o ro,loop  /home/alucard/download/systemrescuecd-x86-0.2.15.iso /media/iso" weird04:17
dabaRya it is.04:17
Muelliyeea04:18
dabaRwhy gksudo anyhow04:18
dabaRfor mount...04:18
Muellimrd`: yeah.. I'll check again04:18
coffeeI am working on a nautilus script04:18
coffeethat's why04:18
luckyaba_Centaur: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/f-41.html   ...........check that out04:18
codecainecoffee, didn't know you could mount an iso as a filesystem04:18
dabaRaha04:18
nukyhow about an unload file? it looks like an uninstaller.. has a few rm commands when i opened it04:18
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codecainenuky, that's prolly it04:19
sabinhey guys I need some help04:19
Centaurluckyaba_: Thanks04:19
sabindoes ubuntu come with a configured version of wine?04:19
mrd`sabin: Shoot.04:19
coffeeno sabin04:19
mrd`sabin: No, but there's wine in universe.04:19
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nukylucky that time! should be careful in future!04:19
Muelliyeah mrd. xine's playing fine :-\04:19
mrd`Muelli: Can you tell what it's using to output sound?04:20
shane_reidCan someone please help me set up my network04:20
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dabaRno04:20
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sabincould someone point me to a howto on configuring it then?04:20
codefest_quit04:20
luckyaba_shane_reid: how so?04:20
mrd`sabin: Install wine and winesetuptk from universe.04:20
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luckyaba_shane_reid: shares?04:20
shane_reidluckyaba_: i can connect to my router, i am recieving an IP address from the router, but I cannot use the internet, ie. google.com04:20
codecaineshane_reid, do you need static set dns04:21
luckyaba_shane_reid: go into your terminal and ping www.yahoo.com04:21
dabaRcan you ping IP addresses?04:21
coffeecan you ping 216.239.39.9904:21
sabinI added the wine sourceforge repository and did a smart update so shouldn't I have it now?04:21
coffee(a google IP)04:21
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luckyaba_lol04:21
mrd`Muelli: If you can't figure it out any more sophisticatedly, while xine is playing music, run 'lsof | grep xine'.04:21
shane_reidNo, i cannot ping that04:21
shane_reidit says "network is unreachable"04:22
jeranKind of off-topic.. But how does the GIMP compare to Adobe Photoshop?04:22
Muellimrd`: I'd really like to, but I really can't find it in the options. Ill try that...04:22
dabaRlike, for an IP?04:22
razerslu1hello, im trying to copy over xorg.conf from my live cd to my ubuntu install partition, can someone help me?04:22
luckyaba_shane_reid: try killall dhcpcd04:22
mrd`Muelli: Actually, try 'lsof | grep "xine.*dev"'04:22
luckyaba_shane_reid: then dhcpcd eth004:22
dabaRluckyaba_: what?04:22
dabaRkill his dhcp server?04:22
luckyaba_restart it04:22
dabaRok, well, good luck.04:22
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dabaRrazerslu1: isnt it in lke, etc?04:23
shane_reidwell, first, i dont have dhcpcd running04:23
dabaRya04:23
shane_reidsecond, I dont have dhcpcd installed to run04:23
dabaRanyhow, router? well, have you power cycled?04:23
shane_reidyes, i have04:23
shane_reidall other pcs on the network are fine04:23
dabaRah04:23
razerslu1dabar: yes, etc/X11, but how do i copy it over to my install partition? i dont know how?04:24
shane_reidthe one i am talking to you guys on is using the same wireless network04:24
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dabaRand your computer is set up for dhcp?04:24
mrd`razerslu1: Mount your hard drive somewhere and then copy it over.04:24
shane_reidi am getting an IP from the router04:24
dabaRis the whatever key being transmitted, and wep turned off?04:24
shane_reidand the router reflects that when i look at its dhcp list04:24
shane_reiddabaR: how would i know that?04:24
dabaRrazerslu1: can you copy it to your disk at all?04:24
Muellilol mrd`  *g* I just got three /dev/null :-\ But as I can see, there a couple of plugins loaded. Like ESD, ALSA, ARTS, ...04:24
dabaRshane_reid: um, wireless setup wiki.04:25
shane_reidwill read04:25
razerslu1mrd`: how do i mount my harddrive?04:25
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dabaRrazerslu1: are you running the live cd now, or not?04:25
sabinmrd: what do I need to do after I install the winesetuptk?04:25
mrd`razerslu1: First, check if it's already mounted: run 'mount'04:25
codecainerazerslu1, mount /dev/hda* /mnt/disk04:25
mrd`sabin: Run 'winesetuptk'.04:25
razerslu1its not mounted04:26
mrd`razerslu1: 'mkdir /media/hda1; mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1'04:26
dabaRrazerslu1: are you on the live CD, or in your Ubuntu install?04:26
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mrd`dabaR: He's on the live CD.04:26
dabaRand he is in like X?04:26
razerslu1yes i am04:26
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dabaRwhy not just run the dpkg-reconfigure, do you have some kind of graphics card or something?04:27
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razerslu1no, integrated graphics, but reconfigure hasnt worked for me04:27
razerslu1neither has a couple other things04:27
razerslu1someone suggested this so i am doing it04:27
razerslu1=)04:27
razerslu1it seems like a roundabout way, cheating even04:27
dabaRwhy do you want the file, anyhow, is it xorg even?so running live cd, well, just copy the file on a disk?04:27
razerslu1i dont know how to copy the file to disk though04:28
razerslu1im very new04:28
razerslu1i prefer to learn with people than through the docs04:28
dabaRwell copy it to a floppy disk04:28
razerslu1=D04:28
mrd`razerslu1: 'cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /mnt/hda1/etc/X11/xorg.conf' should work.04:28
dabaRor a USB key04:28
razerslu1i dont have a floppy drive, its an emachine04:28
mrd`razerslu1: Assuming you already mounted the hard drive.04:28
dabaRwhat does it have?04:28
shane_reiddabaR: i am using kubuntu, and using kwifimanager, it shows I am connected, have a signal, an ip address and exnryption is off (which it should be)04:28
dabaRsned it to a server04:28
razerslu1mrd`: thank you, learning already04:28
dabaRwant a user?04:28
andaresHi.04:28
dabaRyo04:28
redtechisnt there a smbmount command or something similiar?04:29
andaresWhere does GCC keep its list of header directories?04:29
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razerslu1dabar: you'll have to explain though04:29
razerslu1dabar: io've never done that04:29
dabaRopen a terminal04:29
orangerangeHello, I'm trying to get live online customer support at imagestation.com, which is a part of sonystyle. On http://imagestation.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/imagestation.cfg/php/enduser/acct_login.php?p_sid=2CCTH7Lh&p_lva=5111&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD0xMDcmcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3BhZ2U9MQ**&p_li=&p_next_page=live.php, I enter my email address and password, and I am then brought to the next scre04:29
orangerangeen, which is a java chat program. I can read whateevr the customer service agent is writing, but I cannot input text in the text box. Can anyone please help me? If you don't have an account, you can get one for free on the abovementioned link. Thank you in advance.04:29
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razerslu1dabar: alright04:30
dabaRok04:30
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dabaRftp there, and then open another terminal04:31
dabaRI cant see your private msgs04:31
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mrd`dabaR: Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be.04:31
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dogmeatgreets, are folks migrating here from debian?04:31
dabaRmrd`: go ahead.04:31
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redtechcould someone assist me in the proper way to mount a windows share?04:32
sabinI feel so stupid what is the command to run a program again?04:32
mrd`sabin: ... um... 'programname'?04:33
travisbickklehow come it says the firefox versions are broken but i just installed 1.0.604:33
MuelliHmm.. In fact catting /dev/urandom to /dev/dsp should work, shouldn't it??04:33
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mrd`Muelli: Yeah, it works for me.04:34
Muellihmm...04:34
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Muellistrange...04:34
MuelliWell.. Totem plays too :-\ But I can't figure out on which divice it sends :-\04:34
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Muellis/sends/plays04:35
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kd5pbowhat is the default root password?  I set a new one in single user mode, but I cant' access any of the system apps in gnome04:36
Muellifuser /dev/dsp tells me, that esd is using that device...04:36
codecaineg'nite all04:36
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mrd`!tell kd5pbo about sudo04:36
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dices2firefox 1.06 is to fix the broken 1.0504:38
kd5pbothanks, but sudo wanted a password.  I've set a root password, is there a way to use the system apps (e.g. user manager) from a regular user?04:39
Nardok what program do i need to use to write an iso with04:39
jeranHow do I properly set up an alias?04:39
MuelliHmm... I am thinking of installing windows to get that #$!/$ sound workin' !04:39
dices2sudo passwd root04:39
dices2=P04:39
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mrd`Nard: Burn an iso to disc or create one?04:40
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Nardburn it to the disk mrd`04:40
mrd`kd5pbo: The password sudo asks for is yours.04:40
kd5pboo.04:40
kd5pboi c.04:40
Muelli=)04:40
mrd`Nard: Nautilus can burn isos.  Right click the iso file.04:40
MuelliI wondered about the root thing, too *g*04:40
travisbickklewhats nautilus again04:41
dbernar1the file mangler04:41
kd5pbolack of security04:41
travisbickkleoh ok04:41
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redtechAH HA/.  got it04:41
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razerslutwell copying my xorg.xonf file over worked04:41
mrd`razerslut: That's good.04:42
razerslutnow can someone help me change my screen resolution when gnome wont let me go past 640x480?04:42
razerslutmrd`: yes im happy, thank you very much04:42
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Nardok mrd' i went into i right clicked it but there is no option to burn it with04:42
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mrd`Nard: Oh, really?04:42
Nardyes really04:42
nukyhow do i remove a kernel module? there's no /kernel/... hmmm... i'm sure that's where i put it...04:43
travisbickklehow do i get to my other ntfs partitions so i can open my files from within linux?04:43
mrd`Nard: Do you have nautilus-cd-burner installed?04:43
Muellihmm... I'll go sleeping.. gn8 guys...04:43
razerslutthe reason i started altering my xorg.conf file in the first place was to get gnome to support a higher viodeo mode. my monitor supports 1280x1024 @ 60 hz04:43
mrd`nuky: 'rmmod module_name'04:43
Nardi have no clue mrd'04:43
razerslutbut i dont know how to make it go04:43
nalioths_dogtravisbickkle: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically04:43
mrd`Nard: Can you open synaptic or a terminal?04:44
Nardyeah04:44
nukyah... so is there a /kernel/? i'm sure during the install i moved stuff there...04:44
mrd`(A terminal would be quicker.)04:44
travisbickkleok04:44
Nardgot it04:44
Nardnow what04:44
mrd`Nard: Did you open Synaptic or a terminal?04:44
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Nardterminal04:44
Nardbetter04:44
Marble2what's the command to convert an rpm to a deb?04:44
razerslutfor some rason alt ctrl +/- doesnt work either inside x04:44
razerslutreason04:44
mrd`Nard: run 'dpkg -l nautilus-cd-burner'04:44
mrd`Marble2: alien?04:45
dbernar1Marble2: is there no deb?04:45
Marble2just alien file.rpm04:45
Marble2dbernar1: correct04:45
benplautMarble2: alien -i package.rpm04:45
Marble2k04:45
Marble2ty04:45
nukyit says that the module doesn't exist but it's causing me to halt when i boot up and i have to use ctrl+c04:45
travisbickklenalioths_dog what do i download? or do i just do what this website says04:45
mrd`Marble2: 'alien -i package.rpm' will install it. -d will convert it to .deb04:46
Nardmrd` Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold04:46
Nard| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed04:46
Nard|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)04:46
Nard||/ Name           Version        Description04:46
Nard+++-==============-==============-============================================04:46
Nardii  nautilus-cd-bu 2.10.0-0ubuntu CD Burning front-end for Nautilus04:46
Nardoh that was long04:46
Nardsorry04:46
travisbickkleit just looks like a text file04:46
naliothtravisbickkle: you "save page as" and follow the directions in the file04:46
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travisbickklesave it as a text file?04:46
naliothtravisbickkle: yes, and read it04:46
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travisbickkleoh ok04:46
glickexcuse me how do i clear the history list in totem?04:46
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dices2*cough p0rn*04:48
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concept10glick, is it difficult to get hose porn links out of there?04:48
radiodogdices2: good call04:48
glickconcept10, yes04:48
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concept10heh04:48
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mrd`glick: I think going to Places->Recent Documents->Clear Recent Documents should do.04:49
mrd`But, maybe not.04:49
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radiodogglick: you could always just lock your screen04:49
glicknah i cant radiodog04:49
travisbickklenalioth it didnt work it said no such file or directory04:50
glickyup that did it thanks radiodog04:50
travisbickklewas i supposed to save the page in a certain play04:50
glickdoes mplayer keep a history?04:50
travisbickkleplace*04:50
concept10glick, i dont see a way to do it04:50
naliothtravisbickkle: did you save it to your home directory?04:50
radiodogshould probably nuke .bash_history04:50
travisbickklethe desktop04:50
naliothtravisbickkle: in the terminal, did you cd to Desktop?04:51
glickgood idea radiodog04:51
travisbickklecd to desktop whats that mean04:51
radiodogcd = change directory04:51
travisbickklei just did what it said : sudo bash winmac_fstab04:51
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naliothtravisbickkle: go to applications > system tools > terminal  (not root terminal)04:52
Super_BQhi04:52
travisbickklethan this came up: bash: winmac_fstab: No such file or directory04:52
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naliothtravisbickkle: and open a terminal04:52
Super_BQi'm new to Unix so have a stupid question04:52
travisbickklethats what i did04:52
travisbickkleok04:52
Super_BQdo the files in unix (Ubuntu) have to be defragged like in windoze?04:52
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NeoGeo64exr3 doesnt fragment04:52
NeoGeo64i dont know why but it doesnt04:53
travisbickkleso in the terminal i need to cd to desktop?04:53
NeoGeo64ext3*04:53
naliothtravisbickkle: you need to enter "cd Desktop" enter04:53
travisbickkleoh ok04:53
pudlandquestion..... in terminal, SU password not accepted04:53
naliothtravisbickkle: and try the command again04:53
nalioths_dogpudland: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo04:53
keikozdo somebody having a Asus P5 mobo can run the lm_sensors ?04:53
travisbickkleoh ok04:53
pudlandoh ok04:53
travisbickkledamn and its case sensitive04:53
Super_BQNeoFax: fstab tells me i'm using ext3 - no degra required?04:54
radiodogtravisbickkle: dude, everything is case sensitive!04:54
BounceBounceSuper_BQ, that's right04:54
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ubuntuhey, I got this problem04:55
Super_BQwow.. that's amazing to have an OS that doesn't worry about defragmentation04:55
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ubuntuI had this extra partition I deleted... it had nothing on it but a lost+found dir04:55
travisbickklelol its taking me like 3times as long to do 1 thing that takes me 2 secs in windows thats how newbie i am04:55
ubuntuit broke thing... when I try to boot, it says problem starting operation system04:56
ubuntuany way to fix that?04:56
travisbickklenalioth how come the ntfs drives got mounted as read-only?04:56
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naliothtravisbickkle: because writing to NTFS from linux can crash the data on a NTFS partition04:57
pudlandnalioths_dog thanks, thats diff for me04:57
CarlFKunless you use the MS drivers via Captive04:57
imaekIs there a somewhat easy way to write a .sh script that will connect to my FTP server, and upload a text file with my IP address in it?04:58
travisbickkleso its better to reformat one as fat32 if i want more space for linux?04:58
naliothtravisbickkle: yes04:58
CarlFKimaek - do you just want to know what your IP is?04:58
imaekno04:58
imaekwell04:58
imaekfrom a remote computer04:58
CarlFKyeah04:58
naliothtravisbickkle: if you want to share files tween linux and windows, fat32 is best04:58
imaekIs there an easy way to do that?04:59
naliothtravisbickkle: if you dont want to share, ext3 is best04:59
pudlandexit04:59
CarlFKimaek - yes.  get an account with dyndns.com or something04:59
pudlanddoooohp04:59
CarlFKand04:59
travisbickklecan u have like a 100gb partition as fat32?04:59
ubuntuwell? Anyway to fix my problem? Why would deleting a partition with just lost+found on it break things?04:59
naliothtravisbickkle: sure04:59
imaekokay, CarlFK.04:59
travisbickkleoh i havent used fat32 since windows 9804:59
ubuntutraveller, make it fat1604:59
Super_BQyou guys using Samba for network file sharing?05:00
CarlFKimaek - you can either update it when  dhcp gets a new IP, or...05:00
ubuntutravisbickkle, I mean05:00
naliothubuntu: fat16 on a 100gb HD?05:00
Super_BQwhy not keep it in native unix format?05:00
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CarlFKimaek - ther is a thing that will monitor what the IP is and update DNS when it sees a change - the 2nd one will deal with errors05:00
naliothSuper_BQ: probably for sharing reasons05:01
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Super_BQI actually have a problem with firestarter (firewall) and my Samba05:01
CarlFKSuper_BQ - so dump firestarter ;)05:01
robotgeekahuman01, the beauty of choice!05:01
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Super_BQeven though I try to tell it to allow SMB port 137-139 & 445... my windoze machine can't see it05:02
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robotgeekahuman01, sorry..tab completion error05:02
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CarlFKSuper_BQ - so dump firestarter - really.05:02
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ubuntuwell? Anyway to fix my problem? Why would deleting a partition with just lost+found on it break things?05:02
Super_BQCarlFK: it looks like a nice program.. everything else works (SSH, FTP, etc.)05:02
CarlFKSuper_BQ - what problem does firestarter solve?05:02
imaekCarlFK - When it asks me for "what interface I'm using", what should I put?05:02
CarlFKimaek - um... what is asking?05:03
Super_BQCarlFK: i'm not competent to use iptables to build a decent firewall05:03
imaekOh05:03
imaekwtf05:03
damneinstieni have a question. I have a centrino laptop and i hate the setting which runs cpu at max speed when plugged in. is there any way to change that?05:03
imaekI am stupid.05:03
imaekIt's eth005:03
bob2damneinstien: of course05:03
kangtQchi there i'm looking for an IDE for tex/latex with gnome ? any idea please ?05:03
damneinstienbob2: how?05:03
Super_BQCarlFK: what are you using for firewall/routing?05:03
CarlFKSuper_BQ - so dont.  again - what problem are you trying to solve?05:03
travisbickkledoes totem play .vob files?05:03
bob2kangtQc: most people just use their normal text editor (ie vim or emacs)05:03
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bob2travisbickkle: mplayer can05:04
naliothSuper_BQ: some reading for you http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13005:04
imaekCan someone ( CarlFK ) try this for me? http://imaek.ath.cx/05:04
robert_pectolSuper_BQ:   My new Ubuntu firewall script works with Samba...  wanna try it out?  I'm looking for folks to test it out and give me feedback.05:04
robotgeekkangtQc, kile will run on gnome, though it's a kde app05:04
kangtQcyes bob2 but just waana know if something more frindly exists05:04
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ubuntuanyway, any ideas on how to fix this!? My root filesystem and /boot is intact, but since deleteing the partitition with lost+found on it, it no longer boots05:04
bob2damneinstien: /etc/default/powernowd05:04
CarlFKSuper_BQ - for routing I use shorewall - the problme it solves is getting my other boxes on the net.  - is that what your samba box is doing?05:04
damneinstienbob2: what setting in particular?05:05
Super_BQmy ubuntu box holds all my ftp files05:05
Super_BQI use samba for the LAN05:05
CarlFKimaek - look for a package called ddclient (thats the 2nd way)05:05
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robotgeekkangtQc, have u tried lyx? it's pretty good too. though, style sheets can be a pain sometime, which defeats the purpose!05:05
ubuntuugh, I SEE!!05:05
ubuntuI CAN SEEE!!!05:05
Super_BQwhen i'm away. i want to be able to connect to my ubuntu box via ssh/ftp05:05
razerslutwhat section do the horizontal and vertical refresh rates go under in my xorg.conf file? can someone tell me05:05
razerslut?05:05
ubuntusince deleting /dev/hdc3, /dev/hdc4 became /dev/hdc305:05
CarlFKSuper_BQ - what whould you loose if you didn't use the firewall?05:05
kangtQcrobotgeek, i'm gonna test both05:05
ubuntuNOW I KNOW THANKS TO YOU ALL!!05:05
travisbickklebob2 how do i install mplayer?05:05
kangtQcthx for info :)05:05
travisbickklelooks hard05:06
bob2travisbickkle: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:06
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bob2damneinstien: powernowd doesn't appear to be able to do what you claim05:06
CarlFKimaek - no good.05:06
bob2damneinstien: perhaps you install cpufreqd by accident05:06
Super_BQCarlFK: well i don't know how to configure ipforwarding for the LAN windoze boxes (so http doesn't route)05:06
ubuntucan I use UFS?05:06
Super_BQCarlFK: anotherwords, firestarter would automatically route for me but kills my SMB LAN connection05:06
bob2ubuntu: you can read from them05:06
damneinstieni believe i have cpufreqd05:07
bob2damneinstien: then configure it, or install powernowd05:07
kangtQcbtw i have to write courses any idea idea of wich latex class is better to do that ?05:07
CarlFKSuper_BQ - got it.  so it is a gateway box, and you do need something to make it a gateway.05:07
ubuntubah, I think I will just install Solaris 10 on my laptop05:07
bob2powernowd is the default, and it was originally installed on your machine05:07
bob2ubuntu: that won't be much fun05:07
Razor-XkangtQc: you have to write courses?05:07
Super_BQCarlFK: yes05:07
CarlFKSuper_BQ - I see lots of people wanting to run a firewall on a desktop box and all it does it cause problems05:08
radiodogdoes gnome do transparency all by it self?05:08
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radiodogi know gnome-terminal can...05:08
bob2radiodog: no05:08
kangtQcRazor-X, i m not really sure of my english here, you know i have to teach people things05:08
kangtQc:)05:08
bob2gnome-terminal doesn't do transparency05:08
Super_BQCarlFK: no it's only a PII-266Mhz box so no point running as a desktop also05:08
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razerslutwhat section do the horizontal and vertical refresh rates go under in my xorg.conf file? can someone tell me05:08
bob2it just displays portions of the background image as it's background05:08
robotgeekradiodog, aterm/eterm05:08
robotgeekpseudo transperency05:09
Super_BQCarlFK: is shore? a gui like firestarter in Gnome?05:09
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bob2Super_BQ: no05:09
Razor-XkangtQc: ohh heh05:09
imaekWhat port is SSH on?05:09
radiodog2205:09
Razor-XI just use simple ``article'' mode for that05:09
bob2imaek: /etc/services05:09
Razor-XI do math lecture notes for friends05:09
ubuntuwhere is grub.conf?05:09
radiodog/boot/grub05:09
ubuntuI think I need to fix that05:09
bob2ubuntu: nowhere05:09
kangtQcok Razor-X gonna try with this05:09
bob2radiodog: /bin/grub/menu.lst is wha you mean05:10
CarlFKSuper_BQ - no - lots of config files.  I got it to work, but it was kinda a pain05:10
ubuntuhow can i fix grub?05:10
bob2(grub.conf is a redhat-ism)05:10
radiodogbob2: fair enough05:10
ubuntu/ is not located on /dev/hdc4 anymore05:10
h08817how can i do a dual boot with grub05:10
h08817i am working with winxp pro right now05:10
Super_BQCarlFK: k. brb phone05:10
radiodogh08817: yup05:10
bob2h08817: it sets it up by default05:10
Razor-Xh08817: Ubuntu takes care of it05:10
Razor-Xbut, reading the docs doesen't hurt05:11
h08817do i have to give it any commands or anything to choose what partition to boot to?05:11
Razor-X(I committed a fair bit to memeory, meself, the rest I refer to if I need to)05:11
ubuntuI need to fix it05:11
ubuntumake it choose /dev/hdc305:11
Razor-Xh08817: most likely, no05:11
andaresHi..05:11
ubuntunot /dev/hdc405:11
Razor-Xs/memeory/memory/05:11
travisbickkledoes synaptic show the latest versions of these packages?05:11
Razor-Xubuntu: open up /boot/grub/menu.list as root05:11
h08817ok thanks i'll give ubuntu a try right now05:11
radiodogguys, for ubuntu (the user), can he run base-config to re-install grub?05:12
h08817anything i should know before installing?05:12
Razor-Xlock for that entry, and then replace away05:12
Razor-Xradiodog: the basic user can't, root can05:12
bob2travisbickkle: it shows the ubuntu versions of the packages, yes05:12
Razor-Xh08817: depends on what you want to know05:12
bob2radiodog: no, just use grub-install05:12
radiodogRazor-X: i meant user, as in irc user05:12
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ubuntuwhat do I need to run after modifying menu.1st?05:12
Razor-XI needed to do a nothing-can-go-wrong in about 1 hour05:13
kangtQckillall gnome-panel05:13
Razor-Xso I made sure to know what I was tinkering with and what can go wrong, so I can fix everything before the 1 hour passes05:13
Razor-Xubuntu: not 1st05:13
travisbickkleoh is it better to run the ubuntu version? instead of the regular linux version?05:13
Razor-Xlst05:13
andareskillall your_base05:13
h08817Razor-X: well i am a noob so i don't know what to ask05:13
bob2travisbickkle: it's far easier to use the ubuntu packages, yes05:13
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Razor-Xyou should change your console fonts, so that you can tell the difference05:13
ubuntuwhat do I need to run after modifying menu.1st?05:13
ubuntuoh05:13
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Razor-Xh08817: maybe you should get a feel for the GRUB docs before starting Ubuntu05:14
Razor-Xof course, a thorough Linux learning would incorporate learning the command-line, but not many users nowadays like doing that ;)05:14
travisbickklebut its 1.0.2 for the ubuntu thunderbird when the latest is 1.0.505:14
radiodogrtfm!!!1!one!one! *grin*05:14
Razor-Xradiodog: hah, too true05:14
ubuntudo I just edit and reboot?05:14
h08817well i think i'll just give it a run and hopefully it will all work fine05:14
ubuntuor do I need to run something?05:14
bob2travisbickkle: yup05:14
Razor-Xubuntu: run grub-install05:14
ubuntulike I do in lilo05:14
bob2travisbickkle: why do you want 1.0.5?05:15
Razor-Xat least, I do, just in case05:15
h08817and ndiswrapper should alow me to use my netgear usb for internet right?05:15
travisbickklei dunno i just wanted the same version i am already running on windows05:15
bob2h08817: is it a ma-111?05:15
ubuntudf: `/proc/bus/usb': No such file or directory05:15
ubuntuCould not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.05:15
Razor-Xh08817: yeah, i'ld think so05:15
h08817bob2: no WG11105:15
bob2travisbickkle: 1.0.5 allegedly only has security fixes, which are already in ubuntu's 1.0.205:16
ubuntuI hadto mount and chroot from a boot disc btw05:16
ubuntuhow to I transfer proc over?05:16
travisbickkleoh they are up to 1.06 now05:16
radiodogbefore you chroot, mount proc on the environemnt you're about to chroot into (if that makes sense)05:17
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travisbickkleas long as it has the rss extension i dont care05:17
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razerslutwhat is nautilus?05:17
ubuntusounds familiar, I foget how... mount /proc /mnt/foo/proc?05:17
Razor-Xrazerslut: it's a file manager05:17
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razerslutfor some reason it wont load at startup, what should i do?05:17
j_fletcherrazerslut: maybe google knows :), its the file manager that ubuntu use05:18
razersluti just edited my xorg.conf to include horizontal and vertical refresh rates and now xwindows is acting buggy05:18
j_fletcherrazerslut: go into safe mode05:18
Burritohi05:18
ubuntunautlus is a tool of the devil, don't use it05:18
razerslutnautilus didnt load at startup which it normally does and many menu items wont load05:18
h08817ok thanks all i'll try ubuntu and tell u what i think and be back for a lot!!! of help05:18
ubuntuit installs spyware05:18
razerslutthey say unsupported axction05:18
Razor-Xubuntu: hah ;)05:18
fortysixand2spyware?05:18
Razor-Xdon't dissuade people with info that isn't true05:18
Burritodoes anybody know what can i do about flashplayer in firefox?05:18
razersluthow do i go into safe mode?05:18
Burritoit doesnt work05:18
Razor-XI don't think there _is_ spyware for Linux05:18
Burritoit doesnt works05:18
fortysixand2ummm, I doubt it05:18
ubuntunautlus is an evil tool used by the underpants gnomes to steal your undies05:18
j_fletchergrub should ask you razerslut05:19
ubuntuDON'T RUN IT!05:19
razerslutyou mean like recovery mode? alright.05:19
razerslutthank you05:19
ajax_ubuntu, I have used nautilus since about .8, what's your problem?05:19
Razor-Xubuntu: everyone has opinions05:19
j_fletcherajax_: it steals his pants appanretly...05:19
Razor-Xtrust me, you're no the only one05:19
ubuntuajax_, it steals yer undies05:19
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Razor-Xwe just don't get heated all the time about our opinions (note ``all the time'')05:19
ajax_nah05:19
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radiodogubuntu: mount -t proc proc /proc05:20
Razor-XIn this equation, h and k are the horizontal shift and the vertical shift respectively.05:21
Razor-Xerrrr! that was meant for notes-compendium.tex05:21
Razor-Xsorry05:21
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ubunturadiodog, yeah, did it like seconds before you spoke :)05:21
andaresHahahahaha[loop inf] 05:22
digitalfoxwhat's the module for the Joliet extensions?05:22
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ubuntudid'nt I need to do some "env" thing before I chroot?05:22
Razor-Xchroot sound like some drug05:22
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jbluHi, I bought a laserjet 1022 today, has anyone got this working on Hoary ppc?05:22
Razor-XI dunno why, it's like ``Let's take some chroot''05:22
ubuntuajax_: so you (as with thousands of developers) are using xmlHttpRequest stuff?05:22
ubuntuthe latest fad :(05:22
Jet2k5is there a seperate ubuntu amd64 channel?05:23
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radiodogJet2k5: i've asked that, they said "you're here"05:23
Razor-Xradiodog: exactly05:23
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setitehey people05:23
ubuntuI wrote an html based RSS Reader that uses pure javascript.. .only a simple php script to act as a go between to fetch feeds from external servers05:23
setiteim back on ubuntu05:23
Razor-Xnow, you can pretend that us 32 bit users don't exist, and it'll become a 64 bit channel ;)05:23
ubuntuuses the dom :P05:23
Razor-Xthen pretend we're back05:23
setitegave it up for a while but i decided to try it again05:24
Razor-Xeven simpler than multi-tasking your irc client!05:24
setiteyay 64-bit channel!!!05:24
radiodogubuntu: pure javascript, you sound so proud. i'd be so ashamed.05:24
setiteand good news... my resolution works ont he new ubuntu05:24
setitewoooo!!05:24
setitenow i gotta recall how to use ubuntu again05:24
ubunturadio: I like to push the limit... not on public sites though05:24
jbluexit05:24
ubuntuI'd never use pure javascript on a site for public consumption05:24
radiodogubuntu: grin. only on one release of one browser when the moon's out...05:25
ubuntujust to enhance the UI, but the site would be usable without it05:25
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radiodogjblu: you need a /05:25
ubunturadiodog, I spent 7 hours today fixing layout problems with IE5/mac :(05:25
robotgeekradiodog, too late05:25
ubuntudamn thing has more holes than swiss cheese05:25
Jet2k5who do I contact if I want to be a mod in the forums?05:25
robotgeekubuntu, i pity you!05:25
Razor-Xubuntu: well, then what about IE6 in XP?05:25
ubuntuanyway, trying to run grub-install, got a problem :(05:25
Razor-Xit just broke in the XP on this box05:26
Razor-Xdunno why, don't care, frankly05:26
ubuntuRazor-X, oh, IE6 isn't difficult05:26
robotgeekIE5 on a mac is the crappiest browser around05:26
ubuntuit's IE5 on mac that gets me :(05:26
ubuntuand the client uses it05:26
Jet2k5IE sucks either way05:26
Razor-Xonly thing is, it gave me a bit of a headache installing MiKTeX05:26
Jet2k5no matter what platform :)05:26
ubuntuI gave up.. I just hide the stylesheet from IE5/mac05:26
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ubuntuat least the content is accessible then05:26
ubuntuplain, but usable05:26
robotgeekRazor-X, on windowz boxen?05:26
Razor-Xrobotgeek: yeah05:27
ubuntuanyway: here's my problem05:27
ubunturoot@ubuntu:/ # grub-install /dev/hdc105:27
ubuntuCould not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.05:27
Razor-Xby the way, is boxen an English word? ;)05:27
z|banditoif you build something using ./config , make , make install  where does it get put?05:27
ubuntu/dev/hdc1 IS /boot05:27
robotgeekRazor-X, it installed withough a hitch!05:27
radiodogit is now (boxen, i mean)05:27
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ubuntuwhat gives?05:27
Jet2k5Razor-X:05:27
Jet2k5no05:27
Jet2k5but I understand it :P05:27
razersluthi can someone help me get x into 1280x1024 @ 60 hz05:27
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=== Razor-X rarely ever uses internet slang
ubuntusorry, it's just that I dont use grub05:27
razerslutwhich my monitor supports?05:27
Razor-Xtoo volatile for my tastes05:27
Jet2k5boxen = mulitple boxes ( as refering to a computer )05:27
radiodogubuntu: okay, so if /boot is mounted, then /boot/stuff is actually (hdc1)/stuff05:28
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Razor-Xthen why isn't the plural of fox, foxen?05:28
ubuntuyeah05:28
Jet2k5razerslut: open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:28
ubunturadiodog,05:28
Razor-X;)05:28
Razor-Xgotta love this inconsistency05:28
radiodogJet2k5++05:28
ubunturadiodog, so how come it doesnt work?05:28
razerslutjet2k5: k i did that and added in my refresh rates and supported modes, but they dont show up under preferences05:28
Jet2k5razerslut: change the values of your current resolution to "1280x1024"05:28
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Razor-Xrazerslut: were you root when you did it?05:28
travisbickklehow do i install java?05:28
setitewhich repository has the mp3 version of the media player05:28
Razor-X!java05:28
ubotuwell, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.05:28
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Jet2k5razerslut: what are you using to change the resolution?05:29
radiodogsystem -> prefs -> screen res, isnt it?05:29
razerslutrazor: i used sudo, so yeah05:29
Razor-Xrazerslut: cool05:29
razerslutjet25k: im trying to use preferences under gnome05:29
razerslutshould ui use something else? i assumed that since i edited it into xorg.conf it would be there under preferences05:29
Jet2k5razerslut: did you restart X?05:29
razersluta couple times.05:29
razerslutshould i retsart the computer as well?05:29
Razor-Xnopes05:29
razersluti logged out anyway, that would do it right?05:30
Jet2k5razerslut: post your xorg.conf somewhere and let me look at it05:30
Razor-Xin Linux, the concept of computer restarting is very rare05:30
Razor-Xit's a Windows thing only05:30
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Jet2k5razerslut: no, the n00b way is just to reboot05:30
razersluti dont have any webspace, unfortunately. i can dcc it to you =)05:30
fortysixand2pastebin?05:30
radiodograzerslut: have you tried System -> Prefs -> Screen Res.05:30
Razor-Xrazerslut: pastebin05:30
ubuntuso why won't this work if it IS /boot? grub-install /dev/hdc105:30
Jet2k5razerslut: I don't want to give out instruction to do init 3 and all might get you comfused05:30
travisbickklecan i just download java or do i have to get a java ready package or sumthin?05:30
razerslutradiodog: that is what i am using, 1280x1024 just isnt showing up05:30
Razor-XJet2k5: ;)05:30
razerslutim at 1024x768 which i dont want =)05:30
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radiodograzerslut: set up ssh, give me root, and i'll do it.05:30
Razor-Xrazerslut: how sad... that's the res i'm using05:30
razerslutrazor-x: alright05:31
Jet2k5Razor-X: there is soo many I can't keep track :P05:31
Razor-Xsoon, people will demand 3495234234x23423423405:31
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biscuit_Sigh.....05:31
Jet2k5bah I'm using 1024x76805:31
nalioth!java05:31
ubotumethinks java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.05:31
ubuntuRazor-X, I have a client that uses imacs at 640x48005:31
Jet2k5went from 1280x102405:31
Jet2k5sucks bad05:31
biscuit_Im using whatever it's set at.... it's ok05:31
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ubuntuand assumes the whole world uses that res05:31
razerslutrazor-x: just past my xorg.conf in there and you will find it?05:31
fortysixand21024x768 looks like crap on a widescreen  :)05:31
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Razor-Xrazerslut: give us the URL, and yeah, we will05:32
Jet2k5razerslut: yes paste it there, and give us the link05:32
razerslutalright05:32
biscuit_1024x768 does look kinda bad on Linux for some reason and not windows.. but it could be the 17 inchmonitor......05:32
ernalguien sabe hablar espaol?05:32
Razor-Xfunny thing, the URL is Universal05:32
biscuit_Umm05:32
Jet2k5razerslut: hurry because I just did this, while its fresh on my mind05:32
Razor-Xern: #ubuntu-es05:32
biscuit_I understood two words!05:32
robotgeekbiscuit_, maybe u need to use 96 dpi05:32
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ernvale! :)05:32
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Jet2k5biscuit_: it's just the gnome desktop05:32
Razor-Xthen again, i'm one of the only people who has such modest requirements anywho05:32
Jet2k5you have two panels to worry about, windows only has 1 ;)05:33
robotgeekbiscuit_, i changed mine...it looks awesome!05:33
Razor-Xscores of bleating Windows users who can only play games on the internet and nothing more make my box look infantile at best05:33
Jet2k5biscuit_: try making your panels smaller, to make some space and make it lok better :)05:33
Razor-Xbecause my parents think technology is useless ;{05:33
biscuit_So im getting a vibe to switch to 1024x768?05:33
Razor-Xs/{/)05:33
biscuit_Well.... ok05:33
Razor-X/05:33
travisbickklehow do i add multiverse?05:33
biscuit_Umm05:33
robotgeekbiscuit_, noooo!05:33
Jet2k5uncomment it from your /etc/apt/sources.list05:33
biscuit_Does anyone here know about Linuxant ?05:33
travisbickklei set added universe05:33
Razor-X!repositories05:33
ubotusomebody said repositories was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:33
fortysixand2www.ubuntuguide.org05:34
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hybrid_gothtravisbickkle: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:34
Jet2k5or that05:34
Razor-X!guide05:34
ubotuI haven't a clue, Razor-X05:34
Razor-X!ubuntuguide05:34
ubotuI guess ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.05:34
setiteok i cant find the thing on the ubuntu wiki to automount my windows drive05:34
hybrid_gothRazor-X: dont suggest the gui suggest the wiki05:34
Razor-Xquestions so common we have bots give you dry answers so as not to waste our precious wrist fluid ;)05:34
ubuntuwell?05:34
setitei search ntfs like i used to and it automatically goes to some bulgarian version05:34
biscuit_Does anyone here use WINE?05:34
razersluthttp://pastebin.com/31896305:34
razerslutrazor-x:http://pastebin.com/31896305:34
Razor-Xbiscuit_: i'm pretty sure a multitude of people do, are they here, that is the question05:35
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robotgeekbiscuit_, i can dcc my xorg.conf file. i dunno if it's allowed/possible here!05:35
Razor-X;) I love messing with people by doing that05:35
biscuit_robotgeek: I had no idea what you just said05:35
Razor-Xnobody realizes that thousands of people have the same problem as them, hehe05:35
Jet2k5razerslut: looks good05:35
biscuit_And on WINE can you use the Windows XP folder instead of the fake one05:35
Jet2k5razerslut: reboot, and see if it works05:35
robotgeekbiscuit_, send you my xorg.conf05:35
biscuit_Because i can get hardly anything to run because of missing .dll files05:36
Jet2k5if not try removing the "HorizSync and VertRefresh05:36
frantinahellooooooo...............05:36
biscuit_robotgeek: Still have no idea what your talking about05:36
Jet2k5frantina: yes?05:36
biscuit_Well i do05:36
biscuit_But yeah05:36
razerslutjet25k: alright05:36
robotgeekbiscuit_, cause my desktop looked like crap. stick to the  1024 x 768 resolution05:36
Razor-Xgah, I have to start my web browser05:36
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Jet2k51024 x 768 is standard now05:37
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Razor-Xyeah05:37
robotgeekbiscuit_, but just change the dpi to 96 instead of the 7505:37
Razor-Xas is 512 MB of RAM05:37
biscuit_Grr i can't autoalign my monitor in ubuntu05:37
Jet2k5Razor-X: yepp :)05:37
Razor-Xand 80 GB CPUs05:37
biscuit_But i could in Puppy Linux off of my iPod05:37
Razor-Xand 64 MB GPUs05:37
radiodogi'm battling with the nvidia driver trying to get 1280x102405:37
Jet2k5Razor-X: huh?05:37
Razor-XI only meet the res requierment ;)05:37
robotgeek:)05:37
biscuit_Hey05:37
frantinahaloooo05:37
robotgeeki only meet the ram resolution05:37
Razor-XGraphics Processing Unit05:37
frantinabiscuit05:37
robotgeekfrantina, we hear ya!05:38
biscuit_How do i change the DPI robotgeek?05:38
Jet2k5radiodog: it's not always the video card but the monitor05:38
biscuit_Ya05:38
robotgeekokay..05:38
biscuit_I hear ya05:38
Jet2k5make sure your monitor supports it05:38
biscuit_Watcha need05:38
frantinahalo robot koe wong endi05:38
Razor-XLaTeX books cost an arm-and-a-leg -_-05:38
Jet2k5what?05:38
Jet2k5frantina: what language are you speaking? chinnese?05:38
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frantinaono seng bisa bahasa jowo ra yah05:38
razersluteverything is well now05:38
razersluthallelujah05:38
Jet2k5dkdkf ajfa;dfj dto you too!05:38
razerslut=D05:38
biscuit_ARE YOU SPEAKING CANADIAN :-P!05:38
Razor-Xbiscuit_: XD05:38
Jet2k5razerslut: your welcome :P05:38
frantinayes jt05:38
Razor-Xami bhalo achi?05:38
Razor-Xtomi acho?05:38
radiodogJet2k5: want to give me some insight? the nv driver does 1280x1024 fine05:38
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razersluthow hard is it to switch to kde under ubuntu?05:39
Razor-Xki bhasha bolchen?05:39
Razor-X;)05:39
frantinano i spkng java05:39
biscuit_How do i change the dpi?05:39
robotgeekRazor-X, that sounds bengali05:39
razerslutand is it easy to switch back and forth between kde and gnome?05:39
Razor-Xrobotgeek: that's because it is05:39
Jet2k5radiodog: the video card usually supports it, but not the monitor :)05:39
robotgeekbiscuit_, pulling up the link05:39
biscuit_Thanx.05:39
Jet2k5radiodog: the monitor is what limits your higher resolution05:39
robotgeekRazor-X, telugu/tamil!05:39
Razor-Xrobotgeek: kickass!05:39
travisbickklehybrid goth what do i do after i get to the sources list to add multiverse?05:39
radiodogJet2k5: but if nv can get the monitor into 1280x1024 fine...05:39
Razor-X(although I don't know tamil)05:39
Jet2k5radiodog: then what are you complaining about?!?05:39
biscuit_Does anyone know if you can use an actual Windows XP folder instead of the default onme set up with wine?05:39
Razor-Xbiscuit_: you can05:40
Jet2k5razerslut: stick to gnome05:40
Jet2k5lol05:40
biscuit_Razor-X: How do you05:40
biscuit_KDE... Grr05:40
Jet2k5razerslut: sometimes 2 DMs is not worth the trouble :P05:40
biscuit_I couldn't ever connect through it05:40
frantinarazor  h are u05:40
Razor-Xspecify the pathname of the program you want to run to WINE05:40
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Razor-Xfrantina: I'm good, you?05:40
biscuit_?05:40
frantinasam05:40
Jet2k5You guys understand each other?05:40
Razor-X......05:41
biscuit_I know how to run things in it.. but the progs i run try to look for XP .dll files05:41
Jet2k5............05:41
Razor-XJet2k5: you really think so?05:41
Jet2k5Razor-X: nah05:41
Jet2k5:P05:41
Jet2k5>.<05:41
biscuit_Which the default WINE installation doesn't come with05:41
Jet2k5brb05:41
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Razor-Xbiscuit_: try finding the DLLs and copying them yourself05:41
frantinarazor can't u spk  java05:41
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fortysixand2can you copy those files from a windows install?05:41
biscuit_Yea05:42
biscuit_Im trying05:42
Jet2k5frantina: I can speak yo mommma05:42
Jet2k5j/k05:42
Razor-Xfrantina: I can't speak any shortening of the English language05:42
Jet2k5I've been doing Your momma jokes all day05:42
biscuit_But even when i replace the folder in magically remembers the old setup05:42
Razor-Xwell, I _can_, I don't want to though05:42
Razor-Xit devalues an already devolving language05:42
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Jet2k5ah come one Razor-X , show us your magic!05:42
Razor-XJet2k5: ;)05:42
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Jet2k5damn it I hate 1024x76805:43
biscuit_Does anyone still use (or remember) dialup?05:43
Razor-XJet2k5: how would you like 1.6 ghz, 32 MB VRAM, or 40 GB HDD?05:43
fortysixand2I remember dial-up05:43
Razor-Xbiscuit_: some, yes05:43
frantinaabdi tenya hoan razor u im pls lague inglis05:43
Razor-Xsome the former, most the latter05:43
Razor-Xsome neither05:43
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biscuit_Does anyone here know what Linuxant is?05:43
Razor-X....., ok then05:43
Razor-Xbiscuit_: google is your friend05:44
fortysixand2they sell something about drivers05:44
biscuit_Google has sorta helped me.. and failed me in this matte05:44
biscuit_Yeea05:44
biscuit_I put in a key05:44
Razor-Xbrb05:44
biscuit_And it says it's valid05:44
Razor-Xbiscuit_: then you can't use google right ;)05:44
Jet2k5Razor-X: I have all the others just a p4 2.0GHz processor05:44
frantinabisciuit u good05:44
biscuit_But still doesn't say i have a license05:44
Jet2k5so i already have all that :P05:44
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biscuit_Does P4 3.00 ghz w/ HT get any standing here?05:44
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fortysixand2"standing"?05:45
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biscuit_"Credit:05:45
biscuit_"*05:45
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Jet2k5biscuit_: no too fast05:45
biscuit_..Some idiot at Gateway installed my processor twice....05:45
Jet2k5lol05:45
Jet2k5gateway05:45
biscuit_So it says 2x P405:45
biscuit_GATEWAY COWS OUR COOL!05:46
Jet2k5I have a system here that is missing core components05:46
Jet2k5amd64 proc, mobo, ram, and video card05:46
Jet2k5everything else I have05:46
fortysixand2lol05:46
biscuit_Lol05:46
Jet2k5I freaking ran out of money :P05:46
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Jet2k5so I have my 160 sata 150 drive sitting around05:46
razersluti guess thats why they offer ubuntu and kubuntu05:46
Jet2k5along with the DVD-RW05:46
setitegotta love ubuntu... the stuff i couldnt work works and now i cant work what i used to be able to05:46
razerslutkubuntu was what i installed first and i like dit05:46
setiteok i cant find out how to make my c drive mount05:47
biscuit_Why don't you deck out another comp then05:47
Jet2k5razerslut: then pick one :P05:47
Jet2k5just don't get both, it tends to mess somethings up05:47
razerslutis it hard to add a 3rd party  app to your keyboard shortcut list?05:47
razerslutlike xchat?05:47
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Jet2k5biscuit_: I have the money05:47
setitedo i have to do a real reboot05:47
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biscuit_setite: Is it formated in NTFS (figuring its a windows install)?05:47
biscuit_Shock05:47
Jet2k5biscuit_: I'm spending 300+ dollars on an LCD screen05:47
biscuit_A Real Reboot!05:47
biscuit_Lol05:47
Jet2k5so that takes me down a bit05:47
setiteya05:47
biscuit_I spent 450 on mine.. so yeah05:47
Jet2k5yeah05:47
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Jet2k5biscuit_: play games on it?05:47
biscuit_And 1300 on this comp...05:47
setitethee was a tutorial on the wiki that worked fine05:47
biscuit_Dang rite05:47
biscuit_Lol05:47
setitebut i cant find it now05:48
robotgeekbiscuit_, it's on ubuntuforums.org, in the list of howto's... can't find it right now :(05:48
Jet2k5biscuit_: whas the response time?05:48
ducky_Anyone, ever get Unbuntu to install under Vmware?05:48
biscuit_128 MB ATI RADEON X300SE Card05:48
biscuit_And really quick05:48
Jet2k5biscuit_: response time , on the LCD monitor :P05:48
biscuit_Ummm05:48
ducky_It's not detecting my any partitions05:48
biscuit_LCD? Monitors have response time05:48
biscuit_Well its faster than me05:48
biscuit_So i guess it's fast05:48
Jet2k5lol05:48
biscuit_Lol05:48
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Jet2k5your of no good :P05:48
biscuit_Though im kinda slow05:49
Jet2k5well mine is going to have 8ms response time05:49
biscuit_Yea it's really fast05:49
Jet2k5which is good for gaming :P05:49
biscuit_Lol05:49
Jet2k5no ghosting05:49
Jet2k5whats so ever05:49
Jet2k5w00t05:49
Jet2k5I hope05:49
biscuit_Cani borrow it?05:49
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biscuit_cough steal cough05:49
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Jet2k5of course you can!05:49
biscuit_Lol05:49
Jet2k5heh05:49
j_fletcherk, i'm trying to use certain desklets, but it says i need "Theme, Weather and bla sensors" I can't find them on gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org -- any ideas?05:49
biscuit_At least most of you can get Broadband... i live to far away from it05:49
Jet2k5you guys know I got kicked out of #python for saying LOL05:49
Jet2k5:P05:49
Razor-Xback05:49
biscuit_My godly machine is hindered by the dialup plauge05:49
Jet2k5and using facial expresions :P05:49
setiteoh i know what it didnt work05:49
biscuit_Lol05:50
Computer__Guruhai, fsckers05:50
setitei have sata... so its sda not hda05:50
setiteahhhh05:50
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robotgeekbiscuit_, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2097605:50
Jet2k5ahh05:50
Razor-XJet2k5: thank god ;)05:50
Razor-Xlol's been overused05:50
Jet2k5Razor-X: lol05:50
Razor-Xlaugh05:50
Razor-Xout05:50
biscuit_Lol05:50
Razor-Xloud05:50
biscuit_Totally05:50
Jet2k5lol05:50
biscuit_Lol05:50
Razor-Xlaugh-out-loud05:50
Jet2k5shit I can't get away from it05:50
Razor-Xdude, emote it05:50
Jet2k5opps05:50
Razor-Xyou people aren't using it correctly05:50
fortysixand2ell-oh-ell05:50
Razor-Xan emote is preceded by a `*'05:50
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Jet2k5Laughing ...05:50
ducky_I get no partitionable media were found.  When installing under Vmware.  Anyone else have that problem?05:50
Razor-Xso, wouldn't it be *lol?05:50
razersluthi ducky05:50
La_PaRCawow, my firefox is really acting weird05:50
Jet2k5Razor-X: :lol:05:51
robotgeekRazor-X, *lol*05:51
Jet2k5or we can speak l33705:51
Razor-Xbut, AOL'rs can't use punctuation ;)05:51
Jet2k5I would of got banned if I did that :P05:51
fortysixand2I remember AOL05:51
ducky_razerslut: hi05:51
Razor-Xsince this speech is derived from them ;)05:51
fortysixand2i had it at version 2.0 or so05:51
Jet2k5fortysixand2: good 'ol days05:51
Razor-Xi've broken free05:51
User708Hello, if anyone would be kind enough to teach me how to download binary files such as getting Java, It'd be very helpful. Please message me in private.05:51
fortysixand2Jet2k5:  no doubt05:51
Razor-Xi'm ``lol''-less05:51
Razor-X;)05:51
Jet2k5I can't remember how I got into Linux05:51
biscuit_binary he says05:51
biscuit_Hmmmm05:51
Jet2k5man it's been a year already05:51
AntinomyI used to use compuserve chat in the late 80s05:51
Razor-X!java05:51
ubotuhmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.05:51
fortysixand2I remember having it before it had a web browser05:52
Razor-XAntinomy: I wasn't born then05:52
Jet2k5I've been pimping distros left and right down Linux square :P05:52
Razor-XI was alive in the AOLer days05:52
AntinomyRazor-X: how sad. we had fun05:52
fortysixand2I started on Red Hat 5.205:52
Razor-Xonly, I was a bit too infantile to use the internet effectively05:52
ph00fortysixand2 : me too05:52
Jet2k5I started on mdk 10.005:52
biscuit_So can anyone help on my WINE problem?05:52
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Razor-XI started on Debian ;)05:52
Jet2k5biscuit_: sorry don't knwo it05:52
biscuit_About trying to set it to read from my windows xp folder05:52
robotgeekbiscuit_, you would need to get the values for the xorg.conf, i can lend you mine :)05:52
Razor-Xbiscuit_: copy the DLLs you need05:52
Jet2k5this is my first debian system and I hate it05:52
Antinomybiscuit_: Quit drinking05:52
fortysixand2ph00:  seems like severa years05:52
Jet2k5bah love it :P05:52
biscuit_And i did make a copy of that folder on linux05:52
Razor-XJet2k5: hah05:53
biscuit_I STARTED ON THIS!05:53
robotgeekJet2k5,make up ur mind!05:53
Rockretis possible make upgrade firefox (1.0.2 to 1.0.5) ?05:53
Jet2k5GOOD FOR YOU!05:53
biscuit_2 weeks ago!05:53
Razor-XI tried Red Hat and Mandrake after Debian05:53
ph00RedHat 5.2, Mdk 6.0, then Slack 3.6, Slak 7.0, then freebsd, recently unubuntu and netbsd05:53
Jet2k5Rockret: yeah, get it from firefox website05:53
Razor-Xbut, ewww, those are the only words I have05:53
Razor-XSlack and Gentoo kick serious ass05:53
Jet2k5Rockret: I don't think you will find it in a repo05:53
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biscuit_Razor-X: But they are in like a million subroots05:53
Rockretok05:53
Razor-XRockret: it's the exact same05:53
Jet2k5Razor-X: I just got in an argument about gentoo gui installer05:53
biscuit_nickrud: Wtf?05:53
setitehey whats the sound control that you open from the terminal that has the ghetto UI05:53
robotgeekI tried ydl, (sucked, except for the hardware detection and configuration..worked beautifully)05:53
Jet2k5Razor-X: they said it will bring retards to gentoo05:53
Razor-Xbiscuit_: that's what ``find'' is for, no?05:54
User708Ubotu, Is it in Binary because Binary is hard to install and it takes me forever because of using Terminal.05:54
ubotuUser708: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about05:54
Razor-XJet2k5: it will05:54
Jet2k5Razor-X: so I guess they can call it Gentoo for the Gifted :P05:54
nickrudeh, not well said, but a lot of new users05:54
biscuit_Razor-X: Lol i did a find05:54
Razor-XI need a retard-free distro left05:54
robotgeekthen debian, i learnt all about kernel recompiles!05:54
Rockretone question: in my bios , do I need turn on plug and play option ?05:54
biscuit_And yea05:54
Razor-XUbuntu i'll support05:54
biscuit_Thats what came up05:54
Razor-Xbut when retards give me a headache05:54
Razor-Xmy secret summer retreat05:54
biscuit_MY BIOS GIVES ME A TEMEPERATURE!05:54
biscuit_Lol05:54
setitei have no sound05:54
Jet2k5Razor-X: yeah but that's not how the developers feel :P05:54
Razor-Xwith a special someone (portage) XD05:54
Jet2k5setite: me neither05:54
RockretAPIC or PIC ?05:54
Jet2k5Rockret: huh?05:54
setitewell i want sound05:55
Jet2k5setite: for?'05:55
biscuit_Ummm.. btw when i try to set up alsa and test it.. it says failure to contrust test pipeline?05:55
setitethere is a sound mixer that you open from the terminal... anyone know what it is05:55
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Jet2k5setite: alsamixer05:55
fortysixand2alsamixer05:55
robotgeekalsamixer05:55
Jet2k5w00t05:55
Razor-Xsetite: alsamixer05:55
Razor-Xbastards05:55
Jet2k5beat you gusy ;P05:55
fortysixand2dang05:55
setiteyea how do i open that05:55
Razor-Xyou beat me05:55
fortysixand2lol05:55
setitejust type that in05:55
Jet2k5Razor-X: that's just too late dude05:55
Razor-Xis alsa easy to type on a QWERTY keyboard?05:55
Jet2k5yeah05:55
RockretI have two NIC, and when two are active ... do not work05:55
Jet2k5in the command line05:55
Razor-Xdamned QWERTY acronyms, you and your ancient standards ;)05:55
nickrudbiscuit_, try doing killall esd, then trying to set the pref to alsa; you probably don't have a card that handles hardware sound stream mixing05:55
Jet2k5lol05:56
Jet2k5well guys it's been fun05:56
Jet2k5bbl05:56
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Jet2k5time to play some Halo 205:56
Jet2k5w00t w00t05:56
fortysixand2later05:56
biscuit_killall esd?05:56
Razor-XHalo 2 is overrated05:56
Razor-XHalo 1 kiced ass05:56
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biscuit_Halo 2 should be made for pc05:56
Jet2k5Razor-X: not when you are the top 10 in the country :P05:56
Razor-Xthey should release a Halo 1 with a graphics overhaul05:56
biscuit_XBOX IS FOR PANZIES!!!05:56
Razor-XJet2k5: you need a life man05:56
robotgeekgnu chess rocks! :)05:56
Jet2k5biscuit_: no shit, why do you think I'm building a computer05:56
Razor-Xthat's coming from a 15 year old05:56
Jet2k5Jet2k5: j/k05:56
Jet2k5lol05:56
biscuit_733 mhz piece of junk05:56
biscuit_Lol05:56
Jet2k5Razor-X: I'm 1605:56
Jet2k5lol05:56
Razor-Xdude, it's all about GNU go05:56
Jet2k5:P'05:56
Razor-XJet2k5: PWNED, you are, PWNNNNNNDDDD05:57
robotgeek;)05:57
Razor-XXD05:57
Razor-XGo kicks ass05:57
setitehow do i work the alsamixer... what key turns things on that are off05:57
fortysixand2m mutes05:57
Razor-Xsetite: tab and the arrow keys, IIRC05:57
biscuit_When i try to opne alsamixer in terminal05:57
fortysixand2i use arrow keys05:57
biscuit_It gives me an error05:57
Razor-Xor you can read the man page?05:57
Jet2k5Razor-X: I will kick some ass for you, and stand on his back and shove a flag up his arse the says " for Razor-X "05:57
Razor-XI don't like arrow-keys in the terminal anymore05:57
nickrudbiscuit_, what's the error05:57
biscuit_fucntion snd_ctl_open failed05:57
User708It's too hard to download Java...You need to do too much with the Terminal05:57
Razor-XJet2k5: do it ;)05:57
robotgeek The Up and Down Arrows control the volume for the currently selected device. You can also use + or - for the same purpose. Both the  left  and05:57
robotgeek       right signals are affected. For independent left and right control, see below.05:57
biscuit_for default05:57
biscuit_No such file05:57
fortysixand2I use "sudo" for alsamixer05:57
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Razor-Xi'll do the same in UT for ya05:57
Jet2k5Razor-X: lol, later man05:57
robotgeekfrom the max page05:57
Jet2k5peace guys05:58
Razor-XI owned a short clan for a while05:58
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Jet2k5my homies05:58
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Jet2k5my friends05:58
biscuit_{iece05:58
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Jet2k5and my lovers05:58
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Razor-Xwe used to do all sword practice sessions05:58
biscuit_Lol05:58
setitewell up and down wont turn on things that are set to off05:58
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Jet2k5oh yeah I know you want me biscuit_05:58
Jet2k5lol05:58
biscuit_Lol05:58
Razor-Xmmm, gay love XD05:58
Jet2k5:X05:58
biscuit_Ummmm05:58
jeranI'm confused how to start downloading Winex... Cedega.. Whatever it's called05:58
Jet2k5lol!05:58
Razor-X(no, i'm not gay)05:58
biscuit_"backs away05:58
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biscuit_Far away05:58
Jet2k5jeran: heh me too05:58
Jet2k5later05:58
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Razor-Xjeran: the latter05:58
Razor-Xyou can compile Cedega from the CVS, I hear05:58
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Sleeperhey hey all . how do i setup a user and not sudo ?05:59
Sleeperroot i mean05:59
Razor-XSleeper: set it up in a sudo -s05:59
biscuit_You mean set up a root?05:59
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Razor-Xyeah, I miss my UT clan days, that was before Euler and his allure ;)05:59
Razor-XI used to help out on n00b servers05:59
mikesleeper i think when you go into users and groups and create a user when you sudo'd into it, will make a non-sudo user05:59
Razor-Xand sometimes, I used to forget I was on a server with n00bs06:00
Razor-Xand they'ld die06:00
Razor-Xand their little typed screams were so fscking hillarious XD06:00
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setiteok i cant turn on the tone06:00
Sleeperi jsyt want to be able to run su and enter a root PW06:00
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hybrid_gothRazor-X: play a real game! crawl or nethack06:00
Razor-X``stop it ur suppsed to be helping us!''06:00
Razor-Xhybrid_goth: nethack all the way man06:00
setitewhat turns things off and on06:00
Sleeperi dont want sudo. i havent setup a root pw yet06:00
biscuit_nickrud: Do you know the whats wrong?06:00
biscuit_Root pw.. isn't that like your main user pass?06:01
nickrudbiscuit_, is this a sound blaster audigy?06:01
biscuit_No06:01
setitei have sb audigy 2 zx06:01
setitezs*06:01
setitehelp06:01
biscuit_Realtek 97 rear HD06:01
nickrudheh, wrong error path, then06:01
biscuit_So.....06:01
biscuit_Do i find the file, and put it into the path06:01
nickrudbiscuit_, no, I've seen that error, it usually has to do with lack of support for a card, or the wrong driver for the card getting loaded06:02
nickrudor no driver06:02
biscuit_...06:02
biscuit_Oh06:02
biscuit_Where would i find a linux driver for it?06:02
biscuit_Just luck of google?06:02
jeranis it worth the 5 bucks a month to get the prepackaged things from Transgaming?06:02
biscuit_NEVER!06:02
biscuit_DO NOT PAY06:02
biscuit_DO IT YOURSELF!06:02
setitehelp me06:02
setitei know why it wont work06:02
Razor-Xbiscuit_: ..............06:02
setitebut i cant turn on the output jack06:02
jeranbiscuit_: Me < Linux n00b06:03
Razor-Xjeran: no point, you can though06:03
biscuit_jeran: Me too06:03
Razor-Xjeran: better to learn than pay06:03
nickrudbiscuit_, if you could, post lsmod | grep snd on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl (the lsmod | grep snd is done in a terminal)06:03
jeranTrue06:03
Razor-Xit'll be a learning experience ;)06:03
Sleeperok. how come the install didnt ask me for a root pw to add .. andf how do i do so ?06:03
biscuit_In theory you could run DX from WINE06:03
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Razor-X(as much as I know you people hate to learn)06:03
biscuit_But it would have to be setup just rite06:03
Razor-Xdude, OMG, i'm sounding like my teachers06:03
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biscuit_If the app could find the DX libs.....06:03
biscuit_Lol06:03
fortysixand2learning is good06:03
setitecedega aint that expensive though06:04
setitesome lessons arent worth it in the grand scheme of things06:04
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setitehaha got it.. you press m to enable06:04
setitewoot06:04
setitemakes no damn sense though06:04
fortysixand2why not?06:04
biscuit_nickrud: i typed that into a terminal.. but it just went to a new line06:04
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SysFaildoes anybody know anything about using squashfs in ubuntu???06:05
robotgeeksetite, are us using pbbuttonsd?06:05
Razor-Xsetite: i'm 15, and I can do it06:05
Razor-Xnot that hard, really06:05
setitecant do what06:05
setiteand what is pbbuttonsd06:05
biscuit_Im 13.. and im screwed....06:05
nickrudthen, you probably have no sound drivers installed :)06:05
fortysixand2i feel old06:05
fortysixand2:(06:05
Razor-Xbiscuit_: you can do it ;)06:05
biscuit_Lol06:05
Razor-Xat least, I could, two years ago06:05
setite48 eh?06:05
fortysixand2lol, not quite06:05
setiteor is that 46 and 2 months06:05
hybrid_gothi am 14 =D06:05
biscuit_Lol06:06
setitejesus why so many kids in here06:06
biscuit_IM ALMOST 14!06:06
setitejesus06:06
biscuit_Lol06:06
Razor-Xsetite: we're your future06:06
biscuit_Kids kick ass06:06
Razor-Xthe _learned_ future ;)06:06
fortysixand2is ANYONE over 27?  :(06:06
Razor-Xwhere we use our ignorant elders as slaves06:06
setitewell that explains why you folk are so hyper06:06
biscuit_<<-Enviromental Engineering all the way!06:06
setiteok well im off to install the cedega i paid for06:06
hybrid_gothwe are the linux generation06:06
Razor-Xtelling them that we know more than you, only to enslave you in our clutches for eternity!06:06
biscuit_Paid06:06
hybrid_gothbooyah!06:06
biscuit_YOU PAID!06:06
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Razor-XMUAHAHAHAHA, YOUTH JIHAD06:06
robotgeekfortysixand2, m close!06:06
biscuit_WHY!06:06
fortysixand2sweet, I feel better06:06
biscuit_PAYING IS FAILING!06:06
ph00fortysixand2 : I'm old enough to use Slackware 3.606:06
hybrid_gothheh06:07
fortysixand2lol @ph0006:07
Computer__Guruumm06:07
hybrid_gothph00: you mean when it was released06:07
Computer__GuruI paid for crossover office06:07
ph00and debian potatoe06:07
Sleeperslackware rules. im just learning this deb-ubuntu stuff..06:07
fortysixand2just wanted to make sure I wasn't the geezer06:07
Computer__Guruit's uhhhh not free06:07
Razor-XSleeper: definitely06:07
AntinomyI'm old enough to date women who are too young for me.06:07
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robotgeeklol06:07
ph00ya - well, windows 98 really sucked, so that's whein I switched06:07
biscuit_Hmmmmm...06:07
biscuit_Windows 98...06:07
biscuit_That was good06:07
biscuit_Windows ME06:07
biscuit_Lol06:07
john023windows XP06:08
Computer__Gurume was junk06:08
biscuit_Has anyone in here ever used ME06:08
Computer__Guruxp is pretty nice06:08
jeran_I downloaded Ubuntu(on a 56k modem, it took me 4 days) and I just dropped Windows XP that day and here I am..06:08
biscuit_I had one gig of ram!06:08
ph00XP = eXtra Problems?06:08
Antinomybiscuit_: yep.06:08
Computer__Gurui got an hp 1ghz that shipped with me06:08
biscuit_And ME ... welll06:08
biscuit_Lol06:08
hybrid_gothbiscuit_ i have it sucked06:08
robotgeekbiscuit_, yep. 'ME' was not even an OS06:08
biscuit_Yea06:08
biscuit_It was A FAILURE!06:08
hybrid_gothme deleted itself  from my comp06:08
AntinomyI'm old enough to remember hoping Carter would beat Ford06:08
hybrid_gothimho ME 2 = longohorn or vista06:09
Computer__Guruhybrid_goth: lol06:09
ph00well, he did06:09
biscuit_So does that mean your old?06:09
Antinomythank god06:09
nickrudheh, I voted for carter06:09
biscuit_Longhorn.. another failure06:09
biscuit_In the making06:09
ph00Carter was the best president the US ever had06:09
robotgeekit's Vista now!06:09
Antinomybiscuit_: no, it means I am a certain age. "old" is a matter of opinion06:09
biscuit_Im waiting for the Mac For Intel Hardware06:09
fortysixand2biscuit_ : define failure06:09
jeran_I've heard Longhorn will be cool, it's so simplified that it won't even require you connect a mouse or keyboard to it.. It just does everything by itself06:09
setiteomg the sound sucks on here06:09
hybrid_gothi wont vote till i am 22 cuz i turn 18 the month after the election for prez atleast06:09
Computer__Gurui hear longhorn is actually kinda nice.. heard the interface is pretty much xml based, so anything can be changed06:09
john023windows shorthorn06:10
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Antinomyph00: Roosevelt and Truman were better, so was Lincoln (obviously)06:10
jeran_Although Microsoft says it's stable as long as you DON'T plug in a keyboard or mouse06:10
biscuit_Oh06:10
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nickrudhybrid_goth, so vote for dog catcher, it's an election :)06:10
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biscuit_Someone told me Longhorn was another bug in the making06:10
biscuit_Though i heard it looked really nice06:10
fortysixand2someone?  sounds like a trustworthy source06:10
biscuit_I'll wait until i see how people rate the reliablitie06:10
fortysixand2:p06:10
digitalfoxwho here has installed UT on Ubuntu?06:10
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biscuit_Lol06:10
cdawsonDoes anyone here know of a good distro that still uses 2,4 kernel.  I assume I cannot use ubuntu because of udev, which relies on 2.6, no?06:10
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robotgeeki saw the screenshots over at flexbeta, not really something new!06:11
jeran_It's pretty smoothed out graphics.. It's got that 'cool' initial look.. Kinda like XP did with that blue/green bar orginally06:11
radiodoggentoo will do it.06:11
hybrid_gothcdawson: slackware 7.106:11
biscuit_That someone brought me to linux, runs like 3 distros on his comp, can probally outsmart a good many of us... So yeah06:11
radiodoger, that was for cdawson06:11
biscuit_Cool06:11
cdawsonhybrid_goth:  a modern distro, I should have said.06:11
nickrudbiscuit_, maybe you can post sudo lspci on pastebin, it'll tell us something about your hardware06:11
Computer__Guruyou people spend so much time slamming microsoft, you never stop to realize the technological advances they're responsible for...if they hadn't kept making bigger, and more bloated software, we wouldn't have near the processor power we do now :D06:11
biscuit_My Aunt Jenny still wants to slap bill gates06:11
biscuit_Yea06:11
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hybrid_gothcdawson: good luck there06:11
biscuit_Computer__Guru has a point06:11
biscuit_I think Microsoft kicks ass!06:11
Computer__Guruyeah i do06:12
hybrid_gothph00: hell yea i fsckin love screen06:12
biscuit_I just don't like some of the things in it06:12
nickrudComputer__Guru, I've never thought of it that way, maybe I should send money.... nah06:12
ph00I knew of it before - but it's pretty cool06:12
Computer__Gurui definately dont diss em for realizing and living the american dream06:12
jeran_That is true.. but the only point we have faster processors is so they could make Windows XP run 'fast'06:12
biscuit_Lol06:12
AntinomyActually, Gates isn't really evil. I mean, there are corporations that work the fingers of children TO THE BONE and we don't spend half as much time bitching about them. Just a matter of perspective.06:12
biscuit_The only reason XP sucks for most people is that most peeps have 256 ram06:12
biscuit_If you get 1 gig for XP06:12
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biscuit_It takes off06:12
biscuit_Like really really fast06:12
hybrid_gothComputer__Guru: nice one and then ppl with small OSes could kick ass06:12
jeran_I have 512, it's nice at 51206:12
radiodogbut, a gig of ram in gentoo will take off more.06:13
biscuit_I had a 1 ghz processor with 1 gig... and XPran beatiful06:13
biscuit_Yea06:13
biscuit_I have 512 too.. and it runs beatiful too06:13
Computer__Gurui have 384 and i like it just fine06:13
ME_HereHey guys any of you downloaded QT406:13
jeran_what is QT4??06:13
biscuit_ME!06:13
biscuit_ME!06:13
fortysixand2XP runs ok on a Turion 2Ghz and 1.5GB of RAM06:13
biscuit_HISSS!06:13
Computer__Guruthere's another 256 floating around here somewhere, i need to throw it in the box06:13
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biscuit_1.5 gig of ram fortysixand2 :-D06:13
ME_Herejeran_: it's a gui development library06:13
jeran_Ubuntu works good on my Compaq Laptop.. I must say I was surprised06:13
radiodogi've got 512 ddr400 in dual channel....ooohhh.06:13
biscuit_Lol06:14
ph00problem with XP is not it's performance, it's the whole fscking closed corporate model06:14
biscuit_My processor still rulez06:14
biscuit_Yea06:14
radiodogph00: good call!06:14
jeran_ME_Here: That is actually what I was thinking.. but I was just making sure it wasn't some kind of game :-P06:14
biscuit_Im trying to figure out how to crack open explorer and shell32...06:14
ME_Herejeran_ : aight06:14
biscuit_I liek the mac look06:14
Computer__Guruas long as you have at least 256mb ram, xp actually runs (and operates good enough to work on) ok on a p-2 26606:14
biscuit_So im trying to integrate it06:14
glickhey does anyone have any other words for "virtual" or "emulation" "simulator" etc?06:14
vaderI am running 256 on this Dell laptop and Ubuntu is running awsome on it06:14
Computer__Gurui mean it sucks, but it *does* work and is stable06:15
Mobusglick: Imaginary06:15
ME_Hereglick: brain stimulator06:15
ME_Herelol06:15
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biscuit_glick: Drugs?06:15
MobusGlick: illegal?06:15
radiodogglick: computer culture!06:15
Computer__Guruthis is a dell optiplex gx240 w/384mb ram, and a 1.7ghz p406:15
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glickfor godsake be real06:15
Mobusglick: RIAA?06:15
Computer__Guruand k/ubuntu runs beautifully06:15
Punkcuthey ubuntu guys. I got a buddy whose got some serious nvidia graphics problem. You guys got a doc somewhere on installing nvidia support and accelerated graphics?06:15
biscuit_Does anyone like havetrouble seeing the XP Start bar when started up Windows XP06:16
radiodogthis is a amd athlon 64 3000+ with 512ram, 1.8ghz06:16
biscuit_I think the worst thing about XP though is XP SP206:16
MobusI agree06:16
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Computer__GuruI have SP2 installed on my xp box...06:16
radiodogbiscuit_: is SP2 the one that crippled a bunch of dell machines?06:16
Computer__Guruwhile i dont know if im a fan06:16
Computer__Guruit hasnt broken anything06:16
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Computer__Guru*shrug*06:16
biscuit_This is a Intel Pentium 4 Processor w/HT 3.00 ghz with 512 Ram, 128 MB ATI RADEON 300XSE06:16
biscuit_Ummm06:16
MobusBiscuit: Run your mouse at the VERY bottom of the screen, and it SHOULD pop up06:16
ph00before sp2 IE was shite06:17
vaderI have it installed on all of the boxes at work and it is good for my job06:17
radiodogbiscuit_: what's your fsb?06:17
ph00totally virus-prone06:17
biscuit_SP2 and DirectX 9.0c = Hate06:17
biscuit_FSB?06:17
biscuit_Umm06:17
fortysixand2IE isn't shite now?   :p06:17
biscuit_800 mhx06:17
biscuit_mhz*06:17
Computer__Guruph00: it's still virus prone06:17
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davidmccabeHi folks.06:18
fortysixand2hi06:18
nickrudglick, you can get a decent thesaurus by installing dictd and dict-moby-thesaurus06:18
radiodogHi.06:18
davidmccabeWhat package must I install to get the AM_PATH_PYTHON macro in my autoconf library? it isn't python-dev.06:18
Mobushi radiodog06:18
vaderholly coew I have been installing the same thing for 5 mins lol....must be a huge program lol06:19
vadercow^^06:19
Computer__Guruie still renders pages a lot better than any other browser, and the ms java extensions added some really nice functionality.. but the downfalls aren't worth the eye candy/extra handlers06:19
Super_BQwell.. i'm almost 100% happy with Ubuntu06:19
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Super_BQdespite ONE problem I can't fix :|06:19
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davidmccabeI'm about 89% happy, compare with 65% or so with Gentoo.06:19
ph00I'd fall in love with any OS that only ever gave me one problem!06:19
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Super_BQif I was smarter.. i would throw out the Firestarter firewall program but I really don't know enough of IPTABLES and IPFORWARDING to make this box into a decent gateway06:19
glen_Question - I'm using a modem to connect to the net - using diler that comes with Gnome - I need to set the init string.... any ideas how?06:20
davidmccabeph00: *that he can't fix*06:20
biscuit__Sorry06:20
biscuit__Dam Linuxant Driver06:20
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biscuit__glen? Are you using Linuxant?06:20
glen_yes i am06:20
davidmccabeOk, so obviously nobody knows the answer to my question here. Does anybody know how I might look it up?06:20
biscuit__Umm06:20
biscuit__Full version?06:20
nickrudSuper_BQ, I'm gonna be looking into that, and I'll be looking at the package impasq06:20
glen_it's a pain - I should have bought a modem06:20
biscuit__Yea06:20
Super_BQI can see how firestarter would make setting up a firewall easy but it's far too restrictive and lacks more custom options :(06:21
biscuit__Full version though?06:21
glen_yes full version06:21
biscuit__Oh06:21
biscuit__When you entered your key06:21
Super_BQnickrud: you looking at setting up a firewall?06:21
nickrudSuper_BQ, s/impasq/ipmasq/06:21
biscuit__Did it still say License stauts :FREE06:21
DanglyBitswhat is the ubuntu equivalent of firefox-1.0.6?06:21
biscuit__But Said that the key was entered06:21
glen_nope - status OK06:21
biscuit__Oh....06:21
biscuit__I entered a key06:21
biscuit__It took it06:21
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biscuit__But still said it was free06:21
biscuit__Lol06:21
Super_BQnickrud: oh but i'm unfamiliar with the classic way of "programming" config files :(06:21
biscuit__Im going to downgrade a version...06:21
Super_BQit's bad enough to get me to sudo apt-get install xxxx06:22
biscuit__Glen... is your download rate halfway decent though06:22
biscuit__Like about 3 - 406:22
nickrudSuper_BQ, so am I, that's why I'll probably be using ipmasq, 'people who know lots more than me' say I should06:22
biscuit__Bcuz onwindows my dialup modem ruled!06:22
biscuit__Now it sucks...06:22
DanglyBitsanyone....what is the ubuntu equivalent of firefox-1.0.6?06:22
IcemanV9DanglyBits: n/a06:23
Super_BQat the moment.. in order for my Samba to work is I have to stop the firestarter - then my windoze boxes can access the linux files06:23
Super_BQhowever, I lose the routing/ipforwarding that firestarter has06:23
ph00DanglyBits : I just keep using the about:config trick - might be incorrect, but seems to work06:23
vadersee you all later....time for my shower and then bedddddzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz06:24
Super_BQif only firestarter could edit any UPD PORTS i want it to allow06:24
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Super_BQtheir allow policy for SMB is TOO generic06:24
nickrudSuper_BQ, yeah, firestarter used to let you do UDP, I don't know why it doesn't now06:24
Super_BQand doesn't even let port 445 which is required for windows/Samba to look06:24
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glen__sorry - my connect dropped - which is my problem06:25
biscuit__Hmmm06:25
biscuit__Mine drops every hour06:25
biscuit__I dunno why06:25
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fortysixand2dial-up?06:25
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akkAnyone with a clue about ruby?06:25
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glen__Linuxant support want me to try setting the init string...  yes dial up06:26
akkdocdiff installs its ruby files to /docdiff ... I suspect they should go somewhere else (ruby isn't finding them there).06:26
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biscuit__glen__ What speed are you trying to get it to dialup at06:26
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biscuit__Try setting the string(or set up in ppconfig) to force it at 57,600 bps06:26
matttis there a command line tool to reconfigure networking?06:27
Super_BQdon't you just edit the /etc/network/interfaces file?06:27
fortysixand2reconfigure how?06:28
Super_BQand then edit /etc/network/run/ifstate06:28
woodwizzlemattt: ifconfig?06:28
Super_BQpico06:28
Razor-Xany Wheel of Time fans in the house? ;)06:28
matttno, i wanted a front-end to change from static to dhcp :P06:28
Razor-XSuper_BQ: pico is non-free06:28
Super_BQifconfig only shows - not edits06:28
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nickrudlol06:28
davidmccabeI *hate* having separate -dev packages!!06:28
Razor-Xdavidmccabe: annoying, no?06:28
davidmccabeworst part about ubuntu so far by a long shot.06:28
akkHow do I tell what repository/component a package came from?06:29
davidmccabehi Razor-X... we've met on #math?06:29
Razor-Xdavidmccabe: hmmmm... yeah, I think so06:29
Super_BQwell. it took me over 3 hours to install ubuntu on a PII-266Mhz box06:29
Razor-XI thought you were an Ubuntu frequenter06:29
fortysixand2ouch06:29
davidmccabeRazor-X: the worst part is when you have no idea what package something comes from.06:29
matttyah, ubuntu is supposed to have the fastest installer ... didn't seem so to me06:29
Razor-Xahhh, yeah06:29
Super_BQi wonder how much faster the install would be on a new PC ?06:29
matttarchlinux installs like 10x faster.06:29
davidmccabeRazor-X: like the stupid AM_PATH_PYTHON macro. it's not in python-dev. where is it?!06:29
nickrudmattt, dhcp on ethernet?06:29
Razor-Xlike the X dev packagaes06:29
Razor-Xs/packagaes/packages/06:29
davidmccabeaggghhhrggh06:29
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matttalthough, it doesn't install gnome right off the bat06:30
jasmuzSuper_BQ: that is ok, compared to the 1 hour install in my 1.68ghz AMD06:30
Super_BQand Gnome just barely runs06:30
Razor-XSuper_BQ: of course06:30
Super_BQjasmuz: haha06:30
matttnickrud: nah, i just used the gnome network tool to do it ... thanks.06:30
Razor-Xfor your purposes, E or Fluxbox would be more adequate06:30
ph00OMG Gnome on a 266!06:30
fortysixand2kanotix installed in like 15 minutes06:30
ph00lol9ololol ell-oh-ell06:30
nickrudmattt, so, that thing actually works :)06:30
Super_BQmy only intentions for this box is a gateway (no desktop)06:30
Razor-Xph00: I ran KDE on my 48606:30
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davidmccabeRazor-X: 1.0?06:30
matttnickrud: appears so :P06:30
Razor-X3.006:30
Super_BQRazor-X: :)06:31
jasmuzSuper_BQ: when i say 1 hour, its from a boot cd install to the login screen06:31
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ph00Razor-X : glutton for punishment?06:31
Razor-Xph00: thin client ;)06:31
Super_BQjasoncohen: not bad...06:31
Razor-Xjust for kicks, I told myself, I have to see it run KDE06:31
Super_BQjasmuz: not bad06:31
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Razor-Xthe only way it would be remotely responsive would be to use a thin client06:31
Super_BQok what's a thin client?06:31
ph00it still probably was painful06:32
Razor-XSuper_BQ: hmmm, google would do a better job than I would explaining that06:32
Razor-Xph00: not too much06:32
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Dr_Williscpu & ram and Video and network card. :) gets the os off a server06:32
Super_BQthe 2MB built-in video card in my PII Dell box doesn't do justice for graphic display06:33
Razor-XDr_Willis: very little is done by the CPU or the RAM06:33
ph00that's something linux can't really fix06:33
Super_BQstuck at some 800 x 600 res... while before when it was on Windows 2000 - I could get 1076 x 76006:33
Razor-Xmost of it is processed by the server itself06:33
jasmuzSuper_BQ: why dont you slap on XFCE instead of Gnome ...it must be sloow06:33
Super_BQthe solution? - put in a new vid card06:33
Dr_Willis:P06:33
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Razor-Xratpoison ;)06:33
Razor-X;)06:33
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Dr_WillisIve been testing out "MatchBox" for a light window manager06:34
Razor-X(in a french accent)06:34
ph00robotgeek : similar to blackbox?06:34
Razor-Xactually, try E06:34
jasmuzrobotgeek: openbox is nice but not that nice06:34
robotgeekjasmuz, why not?06:34
Super_BQjasmuz: i've never heard of XFCE - i'm too afraid to break this box by trying to remove Gnome and install a new GUI06:34
robotgeekph00, yes06:34
jasmuzrobotgeek: needs to be polished a bit06:34
ph00what difference?06:34
fortysixand2XFCE is good06:34
radiodogxfce rocks!06:34
fortysixand2pretty fast06:34
robotgeekSuper_BQ, openbox works even in gnome :)06:34
Dr_WillisHmm why do you think you need to 'remove gnome' ?06:34
radiodogvery fast.06:34
hybrid_gothxfce pwns06:34
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jasmuzSuper_BQ: just download and install, you wont need to uninstall gnome06:35
Super_BQDr_Willis: i dunno.. i mean it does take up hard space?06:35
ph00windowmaker is faster than xfce by factors06:35
radiodogi'm with hybrid_goth06:35
nickrudSuper_BQ, you would install xfce in parallel to gnome, and just choose it from the login screen06:35
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fortysixand2especially on older hardware06:35
ed1tGNOME!06:35
Razor-Xyeah, XFce is awesome06:35
hybrid_gothor laptops06:35
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letschatti tried ubuntu a month ago. i have a wireless card. i moved from debian kde 2, 2.6.606:35
radiodogor just in general.06:35
Razor-Xthere needs to be a light, KDE derivative Window Manager06:35
fortysixand2ehhh, KDE runs great on this laptop06:35
Razor-XI love some of the KDE tools too much to part with them06:35
Dr_WillisSuper_BQ,  a little. :P a few mb perhaps06:35
Razor-Xlike KPDF06:35
fortysixand2but I run xfce on the old Dell06:35
radiodogthey're working it, there's a fork (isnt there?)06:35
ph00and blackbox doesn't work quite right on ubuntu for me06:35
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Dr_WillisThers that kdelite in the works06:36
Super_BQi c - but really.. this box won't have much use as a desktop - just want it to router/firewall/ftp/ssh/ - and currently.. SAMBA does not work with Firestarter06:36
Razor-Xradiodog: there is?06:36
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robotgeeki am using openbox. while u are at it, get denu from denu.sf.net to move your menus around to different wm's06:36
radiodogwasnt it on slashdot?06:36
Super_BQsurprisingly.. EVERYTHING else I can connect through firestater06:36
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letschattis it me or is kde 3.4 slow as a pig ?06:36
Razor-XI never had the attention span to read a periodical06:36
Razor-Xletschatt: it's you ;)06:36
letschatti have an athlon 600 with 256 megs of ram06:36
MrBiscuitGlen?06:36
MrBiscuitAccept?06:36
letschattno hold on razor06:36
Razor-Xletschatt: 1.6 ghz 256 MB of RAM06:37
letschatti think we in the linux community are sometimes zealots06:37
hybrid_gothwe are06:37
letschattblinded like the right wing cronies06:37
Razor-Xwe are06:37
Razor-XI'm a left wing zealot06:37
Razor-XI'm a fascist zealot06:37
fortysixand2+106:37
letschatti tried. i tried my very best06:37
Razor-Xand i'm fscking proud06:37
letschattto completely move over to linux06:37
Razor-Xas some would say ``i'm no moderate panzy''06:37
letschatti am a proud NDP (canada) leftist myself.06:37
hybrid_goth i am a constituionalist06:37
calci'm a wingless zealot06:37
Super_BQletschatt: LOL!06:38
ph00letschatt : same06:38
jasmuzcalc: damm right06:38
Razor-Xlook, I burned Bush's effigy when he came into power, at my school06:38
letschattbut i gave up. i spent countless hours trying to apt-fu.ck my way until i got the mofo right06:38
Super_BQletschatt: NDP had put our province into mass debt!!!06:38
letschattwasn't the NDP super it was the recession.06:38
Razor-Xletschatt: that's what Linuxs is all about06:38
letschattanyway06:38
Razor-Xwell, not only burned, I did other things too06:38
radiodogi love the challenge.06:38
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letschattwhat i wanna say is that linux developers need to take feedback from ordinary people rather than create one useless copycat livecd distro after another06:39
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Razor-Xoh yeah, for you Wheel of time readers out there, i'm going to start a Wheel of Time channel06:39
Sponge_I have drunk too much rum!!!06:39
Razor-XPM me if you're interested06:39
Super_BQletschatt: recession? explain why our neighbour Alberta managed to pay their provincial debt last year?06:39
letschatti think questioning what's pushed down our throats as divine is the right way to make linux06:39
Razor-XI've tailored almost everything on my box to work to my tastes06:39
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robotgeekplease use ubuntu-offtopic!06:39
Sponge_Ubuntu... are you going to forgive me??? the hangover will be terrible!!!06:39
letschattalberta=oil06:39
radiodogRazor-X: ever play the WoT UT-ish game?06:39
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letschattalberta=low population, fewer immigrants06:39
Razor-Xradiodog: nopes06:39
letschattnot that immigrants are necessarily bad06:39
Razor-XI've heard of it though06:39
radiodogRazor-X: it's pretty much UT06:39
Sponge_Ohhh my... god.... hell I', drunk!!!06:39
Razor-Xas any self-respecting WoT obsessee has06:39
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Razor-XI love UT ;)06:39
Super_BQlower population means a more expensive country to run06:40
letschattbut when immigrants first come in and we take the biggest chunk, we have to pay for a lot of services before we start collecting taxes from them06:40
Sponge_Razor-X: Ubuntu doesn't love me :P06:40
Razor-XSponge_: hehehe06:40
letschatti removed ubuntu entirely. they dropped the ball on my foot with kde 306:40
Super_BQwhat really happened was simply the type of gov;t.. Clien sent all their welfare collectors to BC (in fact gave them a free bus ticket) - then NDP got scared and put in a 1 month stand down06:40
Razor-Xletschatt: this isn't #politics06:40
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radiodogSponge_: you know what this means. no one loves  you, and noone ever will. :D06:40
Razor-X(i've been there before)06:40
DaSkreechCan someone tell me which package installs /usr/bin/X11/X?06:40
letschatti don't wanna discuss politics06:40
Super_BQthen the forresty instustry packed and taxes were raised06:41
Razor-XDaSkreech: X.org06:41
letschattrohitkn.blogspot.com read my views then come argue with me lol anyway06:41
Sponge_rodiodog: Go to hell... burn yourself :P06:41
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letschattso what i wanna talk about is kubuntu. i love kde over gnome but..06:41
DaSkreechRazor-X: Doesn't do it for me :-(06:41
Razor-XBlogs... a very nice colloquial term for text in odd interfaces06:41
letschatti find that and i know you won't like this my friends06:41
Razor-Xuseless, in my opinion06:41
robotgeekhmm....06:41
Sponge_razor-x: How do I load a module at startup? I need to enable a ti-calc compatibility at boot time. How do I do that? What do I need to modify?06:41
letschatti find that windows on my pc win 2000 runs lightyears faster than linux .. on my PC06:41
k-0tikanybody know when the next version of kubuntu is coming out?06:41
DaSkreechxorg-common and xserver-xorg?06:41
robotgeek/etc/modules06:42
letschatti don't write a typical chick blog06:42
radiodogSponge_: /etc/modules06:42
Razor-XSponge_: a kernel module... you have to recomipile, IIRC06:42
nickrudDaSkreech, you can do dpkg -s /path/to/file to figure out which package owns a file06:42
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Razor-Xif you want it incorporated in your kernel, I mean06:42
letschatt99% of the blogs are worthless. i try to make mine, one which will give you something to think about06:42
nickrudDaSkreech, thats dpkg -S , sorry06:42
Super_BQi'm very impressed with the network file transfer speed on ubunto06:42
Razor-XDaSkreech: the latter06:42
Razor-Xwhat is a blog?06:42
Sponge_Razor-X: Really? But I can do it manually, with modproble. But can I build something like a script or whatever?06:42
Razor-Xread this06:42
Razor-Xit's a bunch of text06:42
Razor-Xwith a date on the top06:42
Super_BQon a 266Mhz box I can samba transfer around 8MBs06:42
Razor-Xwith nice, flashy interfaces06:42
DaSkreechnickrud: Thanks but hte problem is the file isn't there06:42
ph00letschatt : linux isnt necessarily faster than windows, but youi can make it go faster with appropriate customizations06:43
letschattthat's true razor opinions are like assholes everyone has one and it stinks06:43
robotgeekSponge_, just add the module name w=to /etc/modules, will be loaded at startup06:43
Super_BQbefore I had redhat 7.0 and was lucky to scrape 2MB/se06:43
Razor-Xis that _really_ an excuse to make a whole dictionary of new terms and fantasize about `blogdom'?06:43
Razor-Xor is the human race craving something new?06:43
letschatti mean i read some blogs regularly.. most don't garner the same audience06:43
Super_BQNO windows OS on a 266Mhz box can transfer files that fast06:43
robotgeeki believe the term is blogosphere06:43
Razor-Xthere we are06:43
Sponge_robotgeek: I need a symlink? or something like that?06:43
Razor-Xthey even cover `bloggers' on news channels06:43
Razor-Xbloggers have been around before there were `blogs'06:43
Razor-Xthe word `blog' is fancy HTML, nothing more!06:43
DaSkreech:-O06:44
robotgeekSponge_, if you know the name of the module, which u modprobe, to the end of the file06:44
ph00Super_BQ : especially if they are using SMB06:44
letschattwell on my athlon 600 with 256 megs of ram06:44
letschatti run windows way faster06:44
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Sponge_robotgeek: It's the one to enable ti-calc compatibility....06:44
Razor-Xletschatt: you need to optimize your linux some more06:44
letschatti think i do too indeed06:44
ph00letschatt : have you customized your kernel?06:44
La_PaRCaOk, I just installed XFCE... how do I add it to the session selecting thingie when gdm starts?06:44
Computer__Guruheya letschatt06:44
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letschattno i should have. the bloody thing doesn't even have apm support06:44
ph00trimmed unnecessary services?06:44
radiodogletschatt: hardware acceleration?06:44
Razor-XLa_PaRCa: it should put itself automatically06:44
robotgeekSponge_, i don't know which module that is. do u know the name of the module06:44
Sponge_Alcohol... I love the rum!!! ... tomorrow will be hangover time!!!06:44
Computer__Gurui didnt see your message on dalnet until it was too late06:44
La_PaRCaRazor-X, need I restart my machine?06:45
letschattcan you explain some more on that acceleration?06:45
Sponge_robotgeek: Yes, I do. But I'm too lazy to look for the exact name. Just I needed to now the way to get it loaded on boot time... :P06:45
letschatti turned off some daemons. man that old debian with 2.2 was a breeze to work with. ubuntu is too .. far too much like xp06:45
Razor-XLa_PaRCa: in Linux, a rule of thumb is, you almost never need to restart your machine06:45
k-0tikanybody know when the next version of ubuntu is coming out?06:45
Razor-Xthat's a Windows thing06:45
letschattxp=xtreme pain06:45
robotgeekSponge_, maybe too drunk06:45
ph00letschatt : ;every linux user should compile their own kernel, preferrably before they use irc06:45
Razor-Xsimply logout, and login again06:45
Super_BQph00: i couldn't believe the speed difference!!06:45
La_PaRCaRazor-X, I know. I jusr restarted X... its not there.06:45
Razor-XLa_PaRCa: odd....06:45
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letschatti never denied that but i think it's time linux moved to a different VM paradigm.06:46
radiodogRazor-X: i found i did when: i killed nvidia-kernel, but couldn't rmmod it.06:46
calcletschatt: i think that is a compliment about ubuntu being like xp ;)06:46
letschattlinux doesn't disk cache squat unless it absolutely HAS TO06:46
Super_BQcan I do this in ubuntu ?06:46
Super_BQhttp://www.zdnetasia.com/insight/network/0,39044847,39095280-39000223c-1,00.htm06:46
Razor-Xsomeone needs to explain to me why you need to create a whole set of new words for an old concept like the `blog', I obviously don't understand06:46
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Super_BQbut then i have to enable DNS :|06:46
letschattwhat? xp is the worst POS i have ever had the misfortune to vomit on my friend it's sh.it06:46
Computer__Guruletschatt: are you mad? I love the way ubuntu works! It's the best apt-based distribution available, by far.06:46
robotgeekcause they are now RSS enabled?06:46
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Sponge_robotgeek: There is a rum looking at me, if feel like it getting evaporating... so I can't let it escape. SO LET me be drunk... at least just for a drunk! :P06:46
radiodoghey, easiest way to do Static IP networking in ubuntu?06:46
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letschatti don't know guru. ubuntu is bloated. it came with 100s of apps i didn't want. didn't one a single one06:47
calcletschatt: eh linux disk caches everything it has room for (more or less)06:47
Sponge_I mean, just for a time...06:47
Razor-Xrobotgeek: *gasp* ;)06:47
Computer__Gururadiodog: edit /etc/network/interfaces06:47
Super_BQradiodog: yes I thought it was easy to change within Gnome (much like Windows)06:47
robotgeekif u wanna go cli, vi /etc/network/interfaces06:47
Sponge_(Forgive me about my poor english... I'm a spanish-talking dude... ok?)06:47
Computer__Gururadiodog: and set the static options06:47
calcletschatt: as far as user friendly its not bad, most people say linux isn't up to par with windows yet ;)06:47
letschattthe best part about ubuntu.. only good part is that it doesn't keep ancient decades old packages. it gives you the latest there is06:47
Razor-Xemacs man, it's all about emacs06:47
robotgeekor network-admin06:47
Razor-Xemacs /etc/network/interfaces06:47
La_PaRCaRazor-X, so, no advise on how to get XFCE in that menu?06:47
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letschattlol i love command line.06:47
Razor-XLa_PaRCa: ask others, they would know06:47
La_PaRCaRazor-X, blasphemer!06:47
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La_PaRCaRazor-X, its all about the six06:47
jcapotehow many cds are required to install ubuntu06:47
calcjcapote: 106:48
Super_BQ106:48
ed1tjcapote 106:48
fortysixand2106:48
robotgeekRazor-X, do u use a emacs footpedal ;)06:48
Super_BQhahaa06:48
DaSkreech106:48
Computer__Guruor at the very least masochist06:48
letschattin my CS @ university of waterloo (canada) days ion3 wm sped me up by a factor of 3-406:48
BlazingSteakSaucanyone know of a decent aol dialer that is not peng or from linspire im stuck with it as my isp06:48
La_PaRCaRazor-X, I mean... the VI06:48
Dr_Willis1.00000000000000106:48
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calcBlazingSteakSauc: i think those are the only ones06:48
ph00letschatt : I'm in Guelph06:48
calcBlazingSteakSauc: so few people use AOL on linux its not in big demand06:48
letschattright on ph00. got a job yet?06:48
DaSkreechMudda!06:48
BlazingSteakSaucdan linspire i got to buy06:48
La_PaRCagonna log out, see if its there... if not... someones in trouble06:48
ph00no - disabled06:48
DaSkreechis there a Xconfigurator for X.org?06:48
jcapoteanyone running 5.04 on a centrino laptop?06:49
BlazingSteakSaucpeng iss retarded06:49
ed1tyea me06:49
radiodogjcapote: one.06:49
robotgeekDaSkreech, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:49
letschattlinux has it's place. i've spent countless hours at co-op terms perfecting a system for their business. i've spent days at home hours on end trying to get wireless to work and stuff to compile06:49
ed1tim running on IBM Thinkpad R25 1.7 centrino06:49
calcBlazingSteakSauc: well it does connect to the most retarded isp, it probably wore off on it06:49
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Super_BQis anyone besides me running Ubuntu on a PII-266Mhz box???06:49
Dr_Willisive been fighting with my Compaq V2311 :P06:49
jcapoteed1t: how do you control cpu frequency scaling06:49
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letschattbut i can't afford a new machine and frankly as much as i hate the way windows does some things, it runs faster06:49
BlazingSteakSaucit is the only isp i can use at the moment sadly06:49
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ed1tjcapote, wat u mean?06:49
glen_If I've setup my isp dialer using pppconfig....  is there a way to start/stop it via a GUI using Ubuntu?06:50
fortysixand2jcapote: cpufreqd?06:50
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calcletschatt: kde might run faster on it than gnome if you are low on memory (didn't see your specs)06:50
jcapotedoes it automatically scale based on load?06:50
jasmuzSuper_BQ: im going to install into a AMD 300mhz06:50
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jcapotethat's my main concern06:50
ed1tjcapote, yea06:50
radiodogletschatt: gentoo will blow that notion out of the water. if you're up for it.06:50
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letschattathlon 60006:50
calcletschatt: but best bet is to use something like blackbox/fluxbox06:50
setitehow do i install a tarball06:50
jcapotecan you overide it?06:50
fortysixand2powernowd scales by load06:50
ed1tjcapote, hmmm dunno never played withit06:50
hybrid_gothsetite: untar it06:50
ed1twith it*06:50
La_PaRCaum... xfce4.desktop is not in /usr/share/xsessions06:50
Dr_Willis"MatchBox"  is nice and lite..  a little odd at times06:50
robotgeeksetite, gunzip *.tar , ./configure, make , make install06:51
letschattradiodog: as a CS person i've spent so much time on linux i think i am gonna let it slide until i have the balls to stay up again. sudo (sudo should be nuked)06:51
Super_BQjasmuz: hope you have lots of RAM... just boot up into Gnome sucked about 200MB06:51
setitedamn i was hoping you wouldnt say that06:51
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BlazingSteakSaucjasmuz i installed ubuntu on a 100mhz p1 with 16megs ram works but slow as crazy06:51
jcapoteed1t: so the defaults have suited you fine?06:51
letschattgentoo.. i've heard some good things about but i'll wait06:51
Super_BQBlazingSteakSauc: it works!?06:51
BlazingSteakSaucyup06:51
ed1tjcapote, yea it works fine for me06:51
Super_BQsheezes06:51
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calcSuper_BQ: linux uses what you have, free doesn't report very accurate numbers as well06:51
jasmuzSuper_BQ: i dont plan on using Gnome as default GUI06:51
BlazingSteakSauccentos failed lol06:51
Super_BQcalc: anotherwords more ram = faster performance?06:52
calcthe -/+ buffers/cache first number is not just what your apps are using06:52
letschattathlon 600, matrox dualhead 32 megs, 256 meg ram, broadcom wireless pci card, audigy sound.06:52
calcit also includes other stuff like inode cache, etc06:52
ph00BlazingSteakSauc : is centos the one that was copying windows?06:52
BlazingSteakSauci took ubuntu to my networking class for fun06:52
calcSuper_BQ: yea06:52
BlazingSteakSaucim not sure06:52
nickrudDaSkreech, I was so boggled that a binary under user was not in dpkg -S, I did a bit of digging: It's part of xserver.org, and the install/remove scripts do some interesting things06:52
letschatti managed to get the very bare minimum win 2k on it that's why it runs fast. ubuntu laid waste to my machine06:52
fortysixand2I hate my broadcom card06:52
calcSuper_BQ: i run kde on 128mb at work in vmware and it only shows like its using around 60MB ram06:52
BlazingSteakSauci got it from someone in the class06:52
nickrud*xserver-org06:52
letschatti love my broadcom card. forty msg me i'll tell you some settings you need to get (i got 4x the default speed)06:52
calcSuper_BQ: on my home box running gnome and firefox it shows its using 464MB (probably not too accurate)06:53
setitewell i run ubuntu on a amd 64 at 2.75 ghz... take that mr i love to use old computers06:53
ed1tletschatt, broadcom ethernet or wireless?06:53
letschattfirefox, kde, X, XFS and some print daemon i don't need take up 200 megs of my ram06:53
DaSkreechnickrud: Keep talking :)06:53
Super_BQwell.. I think I need to find out hot to Disable NETBIOS over TCP/IP in an effort to get Samba going through firestater06:53
ed1ti got a broadcom gigabit ethernet06:53
calcSuper_BQ: there are ways to get more accurate numbers but its not simple to do06:53
fortysixand2mine is wireless06:53
fortysixand2 :(06:53
Super_BQcalc: so TOP won't do?06:53
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Sleepersomeone throw me a bone here... how do i create a root pw then just su ..? is it like freebsd where i add it to wheel groups etc .. ?06:53
BlazingSteakSauci got a 1.66ghz on this machine the pcs we use in the class are donated so we are allowed to screw with em06:54
letschatti bought broadcom in the microsoft rebranding. turn off bluetooth rule # 1. disable power save mode.06:54
calcSuper_BQ: well with firefox the numbers may actually be accurate06:54
letschatttransfer at a constant rate. don't choose automatic06:54
calcSuper_BQ: you can look at /proc/(pid)/status to see06:54
nickrudDaSkreech, if all you want is the file, aptitude install xserver-xorg; if you want to understand what's going on, look at xserver-xorg* in /var/lib/dpkg/info06:54
calclooks like firefox on my box is using a real 234MB+06:54
setitegod now i recall why i hate linux06:54
nickrudDaSkreech, I'm not going to put in the time, myself06:54
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DaSkreechnickrud: Ok thanks06:54
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BlazingSteakSauci love firefox it is killer on linux or windows06:55
calcsetite: eh?06:55
jasmuzSleeper: sudo passwd ****06:55
BlazingSteakSauclinux preferably06:55
letschattfirefox rules!! konqueror.. errrr06:55
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setitecalc : i hate how hard a simple thing can become06:55
jcapotehow long does it usually take for .debs to be created out of popular software, such as firefox06:55
ed1tFF!06:55
jasmuzfirefox roxz!06:55
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BlazingSteakSauci got fire fox as defualt for this windows boot06:55
setitealso i hate the grub wont use my usb keyboard06:55
ed1tjcapote, it all depends, FF have some problems06:55
hybrid_gothjcapote: alien06:55
calcBlazingSteakSauc: well i do have 15+ firefox windows open, but using that much ram is still kinda bad06:55
the_beginnerWhere do i install the drivers to for a modem if im trying to set up an internet connection? /dev?06:56
bob2jcapote: do you mean "when will firefox 1.0.6 be in hoary?"?06:56
calcsetite: that is your bios faul06:56
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calcsetite: fault06:56
fortysixand2grub uses my USB keyboard just fine06:56
BlazingSteakSaucwhy 15?06:56
jcapoteis it?06:56
calcsetite: tell you bios to use dos mode for keyboard06:56
fortysixand2that's a BIOS problem06:56
bob2the_beginner: you don't need drivers for a modem06:56
setiteok06:56
Super_BQok brb. gonna play with network stuff06:56
ed1tjcapote, there are some minor bugs...but u can fix it urself06:56
BlazingSteakSaucsetite i know what you mean mine don't work either06:56
setitethat still leaves me with the fact that i already forgot how to install a program on here06:56
ed1tjcapote, like it will show you the wrong version, it will show u 1.0 instead of 1.0.406:56
BlazingSteakSauci use a ps2 usb adaptor to get it to work06:57
bob2jcapote: new versions of software tend to go into the development branch of ubuntu pretty quickly06:57
the_beginnerIts an Alcatel speedtouch 330, i'm pretty new to Linux, ive just been following what it says on this site but its too confusing06:57
fortysixand2setite: apt-get install <program name>06:57
calcsetite: system -> administration -> synaptic06:57
setiteand once again half my problem is that i refuse to use the 32 bit version06:57
bob2jcapote: stable versions of ubuntu do not get new versions of software06:57
Sleeperjasmuz i keep getting try again06:57
setiteyea but that only works for programs that i have a repo for06:57
calcsetite: or like fortysixand2 in a console window run sudo apt-get install <program name>06:57
the_beginnerIve downloaded drivers off sourcefourge, and this firmware stuff or something, i think i have to extract that to somewhere?06:57
setitei need to find a mozilla repo06:57
calcsetite: yea only for about 16000 programs06:57
calcsetite: mozilla is already in ubuntu06:57
La_PaRCaok, someone care to tell me why I just installed Xfce and its not listed under the gdm sessions?06:57
BlazingSteakSauccalc some keyboards like mine will no function period at install in usb or at login window06:57
setiteyea but its not that up to day06:58
setitedate*06:58
IIIEarslol@calc 16000 "only" - grin06:58
bob2the_beginner: Im pretty sure  you only need the speedtouch package06:58
jcapoteso packages in the repositories are never updated06:58
the_beginnerIts too confusing, chat script?06:58
calcsetite: it is here: Version: 2:1.7.8-1ubuntu206:58
bob2the_beginner: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/06:58
the_beginnerpap secrets chap secrets etc *gives up*06:58
the_beginnerlol06:58
calcor was as of earlier this week06:59
Computer__Guruit's not confusing if you take like to minutes to stop and look at it to see how it works06:59
Computer__Gurutwo06:59
calclooks like 1.7.10 is out now06:59
the_beginnerOh its that page ! thanks !06:59
BlazingSteakSaucim glad yolinux is back up a few days ago i checked it and it was down06:59
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bob2the_beginner: if you don't understand a specific part, please ask the channel for help06:59
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bob2having someone walk you through the entire process is kinda inefficient, tho06:59
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BlazingSteakSauc1.7.10 now?07:00
calchmm 1.7.10 came out yesterday07:00
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BlazingSteakSaucdang07:00
calcit will probably be in ubuntu in the next couple days07:00
the_beginnerYeah, thanks anyway, i'll go figure , if i have a question i think is specific enough i'll hit you guys with it :-)07:00
La_PaRCaSome help with Xfce? It doesnt appear in the gdm sessions.07:00
Computer__Guruhrmm07:00
Computer__Guruhow did you install it?07:00
jasmuzgood night folks07:01
Computer__Guruxfce is nice :)07:01
jcapoteso from what I gather from the forms, it seems that the firefox for hoary now is 1.0.2 with security patches applied07:01
bob2yes07:01
bob2that's always bee nthe case07:01
Computer__Gurujcapote: but they're patches to the extent that it becomes, essentially, 1.0.407:01
La_PaRCaComputer__Guru, um, I just noticed I installed xfce not xfce407:02
jcapotebut is it as secure as 1.0.607:02
La_PaRCaComputer__Guru, uninstalled that and went for xfce407:02
bob2jcapote: that's the point...yes07:02
Computer__Guruthere ya go :)07:02
calc1.0.6 just had a patch for plugins anyway, wasn't it?07:02
bob2or will be when pitti uploads the latest fixes07:02
jcapoteyou could always just install inside /opt07:02
jasoncohenjcapote, that's correct. if you read the security notes, it has the patches from 1.0.3, 1.0.4 and 1.0.5. 1.0.6 just was a bugfix release to fix the API changes from 1.0.507:02
jcapotebut it won't be optimized for ubuntu+gnome07:03
La_PaRCaComputer__Guru, another thing. My firefox started acting weird after the last update. It now doesnt open links to zip or pdf files for some reason.07:03
La_PaRCaColonelKernel, when I click on a link to a zip file, it just sits there.07:03
Computer__Guruodd07:03
BurgundaviaLa_PaRCa, known bug07:03
Computer__Gurureconfigure it?07:03
jasoncohenwhat does that mean anyways- optimized for gnome + ubuntu?07:03
Computer__Guruah, known bug07:03
La_PaRCaBurgundavia, ok, thanks. I was looking over bugzilla earlier and didnt see it.07:03
jcapoteno idea, just saying what I read in the forums07:03
BurgundaviaLa_PaRCa, as did lots. I have closed about 5 duplicates07:04
IIIEarsjasoncohn - ubuntu sudo?07:04
La_PaRCaBurgundavia, haha.07:04
jasoncoheni find the mozilla built to be faster on startup + faster at browsing than the ubuntu build so i don't see what this optimization is doing07:04
La_PaRCaBurgundavia, thats why I always ask here before posting.07:04
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jasoncohenIIIEars, and why would you need sudo for firefox?07:04
ColonelKernelLa_PaRCa, using the latest ubuntu firefox update eh?07:04
BlazingSteakSauci got a file ealier for making ubuntu show ntfs and fat systems but the terminal failed to do anything with it07:04
La_PaRCaColonelKernel, yup.07:05
jasoncohen!mount07:05
uboturumour has it, mount is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions07:05
La_PaRCaIts cramping my style.07:05
IIIEarsjasoncohen - else isn't linux=linux?07:05
woodyKernel? which version?07:05
La_PaRCaI need a connection better than 128kbps07:05
jasoncohenBlazingSteakSauc, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions'07:05
ColonelKernelLa_PaRCa, get the latest firefox from mozilla, install it locally, and use that until the ubuntu folks fix the browser07:05
jasoncohenIIIEars, i don't know what you're talking about.07:05
ColonelKernelthe ubuntu version of firefox is broken07:05
BlazingSteakSauclet me see if thats the one07:05
calcColonelKernel: broken, how?07:05
La_PaRCaColonelKernel, nah, its not THAT bad. I can live with it.07:05
IIIEarswhat else distinguishes ubuntu from Debian?07:05
calc1.0.6 wasn't even a security fix07:06
calcit just fixed some plugin breakage07:06
woodycalc07:06
BurgundaviaIIIEars, faster and more consistent release cycle. New packages in the stable version07:06
ColonelKernelcalc, for me, links dont work - like if I try to d/l something from sourceforce, it doesnt hapen07:06
Burgundaviacalc, .6 didn't solve all the breakage07:06
woody#calc07:06
BlazingSteakSaucthat different then what was given to me07:06
calcand since plugins don't work on my version of ubuntu its no big deal (for me anyway)07:06
calcBurgundavia: odd07:07
woody!07:07
ubotuWish i knew, woody07:07
jasoncohenIIIEars, it's optimized for desktop usage. debian has no default set of installed packages. you install what you want. they don't fiddle with stuff to make it work by default. ubuntu has templates for many packages with optimized settings07:07
BlazingSteakSaucgonna save it to my thumb drive to load in the os07:07
calci have 1.0.5 here and it works fine for me07:07
La_PaRCaBurgundavia, how about a flash thing. It is freezing my firefox every time the plugin unloads. Known too?07:07
ColonelKernelwell my firefox worked fine before the update, but the 1.0.6 from firefox I installed locally simeply screams07:07
IIIEarsBurgundavia, Ah - appreciate the clarification. - Ubuntu is much better than any other distro i tried07:07
Burgundaviacalc, it is only a select set of extensions07:08
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BurgundaviaLa_PaRCa, no idea, but I assume it is part of the breakage07:08
jasoncohenIIIEars, ubuntu only supports packages that are important to most users. debian is a better server distrobution as it has a longer life, security support on many more packages and is more thoroughly tested07:08
jasoncoheni would recommened ubuntu for a desktop user and debian for a server07:08
La_PaRCaBurgundavia, ok, will just wait for the next update.07:08
BlazingSteakSaucsandisk usb sticks require no work to be seen or read even with fat 32 on em07:08
BurgundaviaUbuntu generally only supports the best of the breed packages. So only one of each server07:08
hybrid_gothdebian wont break07:08
Burgundaviaone webbrowser, etc.07:08
calcBurgundavia: ok, yea they probably wouldn't even work on mine in any case so no problem for me :)07:08
IIIEarsBSD for servers. Debian? - if you say so.07:09
La_PaRCahungry07:09
La_PaRCaI wish I had some pizza07:09
calchybrid_goth: debian doesn't break? in unstable it does :)07:09
calcactually debian breaks other times too07:09
calcthe version of gzip they shipped in sarge is fubar07:09
ColonelKerneli couldnt get any mozilla browser plugins installed on bsd07:09
calcdoesn't work properly with apt-get07:09
La_PaRCaeverything breaks07:10
calcso eg apt-get source fails ~ 50% of the time for me07:10
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jasoncohenwhy does ubuntu's apache2 server default to an FTP view. debian's goes to the default apache web page if you go to http://serverip and doesn't show the different directories07:10
jasoncohenon mythweb, it tries to open the php file rather than loading the page07:10
IcemanV9ColonelKernel: install linuxwrapper07:10
ColonelKernelIcemanV9, ill install ubuntu instead07:10
ColonelKernelactually I use centos for my server07:11
BlazingSteakSaucno wine for ubuntu??07:11
La_PaRCajasoncohen, I think its because the ubuntu package doesnt come with the default pages in the webserver directory07:11
IIIEarsget the update for gzip there was a recent flaw published07:11
ColonelKernelBlazingSteakSauc, I use cedega and that works fine on cedega07:11
calchmm they finally fixed gzip on Jul 11 in debian and forgot to upload it to stable-proposed-updates07:11
BlazingSteakSaucwell the isp is only windows or mac so wine or something close i need to get it installed07:11
ColonelKernelBlazingSteakSauc, crack rocks?07:12
Razor-Xkeroberos!07:12
Razor-XXD07:12
jasoncohenLa_PaRCa, it's in the same location as in debian - /var/www/apache2-default07:12
La_PaRCaPIZZA!07:12
Razor-XBlazingSteakSauc: no ISP is Windows or Mac only07:12
setitegah!07:12
BlazingSteakSaucyes07:12
hybrid_gothlol07:13
calcRazor-X: AOL is more or less07:13
naliothBlazingSteakSauc: yer kiddin me "windows or mac" what kind of crap is that?07:13
setitecedega is evil07:13
supernixtestedd07:13
La_PaRCajasoncohen, yeah, but I think it comes empty by default on ubuntu. Might be wrong tho.07:13
jasoncohenbut http://serverip automatically opens that page on debian and not on ubuntu. ubuntu also doesn't seem to know how to start mythweb correctly07:13
setitei renewed my service but the site is being screwy07:13
hybrid_gothAOL is jsut harder to config with linux07:13
supernixSo much for automatic spell correction07:13
hybrid_gothyou can still connect07:13
setiteAOL!!!!07:13
setiteAOL and linux.. thats funny as hell07:13
calcAOL uses nonstandard tcp protocol shit07:13
BlazingSteakSaucim stuck is aohell and the recent version are all win or mac07:13
thechitowncubslol07:13
jasoncohenLa_PaRCa, i just installed apache2 on ubuntu and /var/www/apache2-default is there. it's not empty07:13
hybrid_gothits just their pretty lil training wheels browser07:13
jasoncohenif i click apache2-default it opens the page07:13
BlazingSteakSaucverson 3 is had linux version07:13
IIIEarsBlazingSteakSauc - Yep - AOL? - some groups there are the best on the web. windows only seems kind of silly. I hope you can get wine to configure it.07:13
La_PaRCajasoncohen, um, whats in it?07:13
BlazingSteakSaucslow as hell though07:13
setiteyea aol software is not necessary for inet usage via aol07:14
setiteits their browser and little AOL only features interface07:14
jeran_What's the difference between Cedega and Winex?07:14
BlazingSteakSauci got sites saved on aol07:14
BlazingSteakSaucneed to get em off or use it07:14
Razor-Xsetite: no, I think you need an AOL Dialer07:14
Razor-Xthey use a proprietary dialer07:14
jasoncohenLa_PaRCa, all the same stuff on my debian box07:14
La_PaRCajasoncohen, thats because the web root directory is /var/www/ not /var/www/apache2-default07:15
BlazingSteakSauconce i get this linux part online im not using this lame windows again07:15
La_PaRCajasoncohen, if you move everything inside apache2-default to /var/www/ it will work07:15
BlazingSteakSaucbut at the moment going to better isp is not an option07:15
setitewell back in the aol 2.0 days you could use any dialer to get on with aol inet07:15
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setitehavent used them since cable was available in my state07:15
IIIEarsRazor-X - Read something about a proprietory protocol. - not too sure if it's about PPP or TCP (would be a pain to use only AOLpeng to connect.)07:16
setitei still pay for aol to keep my screenname though :(07:16
jasoncohenLa_PaRCa, it works on debian with /var/www/apache2-default07:16
BlazingSteakSaucsomeone else is paying the bill here i told em this isp sucks and over charges but they don't listen07:16
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La_PaRCajasoncohen, ubuntu is not debian, the conf files are different!07:16
biscuit_Hi07:16
Razor-XIIIEars: there's another free dialer07:16
BlazingSteakSaucaol uses ppp/slip07:16
setiteis there an easy way to get my mouse to work07:16
regeya_indeed, ubuntu != debian, hth07:17
setiteand i mean truly easy07:17
jasoncohenLa_PaRCa, that's precisely what i'm asking. what do i have to change07:17
setitelike just installing one file07:17
biscuit_Does anyone know how to use the Windows XP folder instead of the WINE default on WINE?07:17
La_PaRCajasoncohen, ah ok07:17
Razor-Xwhat's the command-line client to listen to podcasts?07:17
biscuit_pppconfig rules!07:17
setiteall the mouse buttons i mean, on an mx-51007:17
Razor-Xbiscuit_: #wine07:17
biscuit_Ok07:17
biscuit_Thanks07:17
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rob^Ubuntu just got a really good review in one of this months PC mags in Australia..07:17
biscuit_Umm07:17
biscuit_Yea07:18
cafuego Which pc mag? APC?07:18
BlazingSteakSauclooks like im basicly screwed on getting online07:18
biscuit_Im already there07:18
rob^cafuego, no not apc (they have fedora on the cover), it wasnt pc authority either07:18
rob^another one, I forget the name07:18
biscuit_BlazingSteakSauc: whats wrong?07:18
cafuegorob^: yeh, APC is frighteningly windows/redhat-only focused.07:19
setiteaol is evil07:19
setiteget rid of them07:19
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calcClearTCP A network service that passes 8-bit raw data through a tunnel to the remote host without applying network protocols. Typically used by ISPs who provide ports to America Online (AOL) using the CVX switch. CVX switch supports clear and transparent TCP connections. Also referred to as TCP-Clear. TCP-Clear tunnels can be established for SLIP, asynchronous, and PPP connections.07:19
BlazingSteakSaucaol is a pain to get workon on linux i wanna switch but can't07:19
biscuit_Lol07:19
biscuit_AOL07:19
biscuit_You poor poor soul07:19
biscuit_Well07:19
BlazingSteakSaucyeah i know07:19
biscuit_There is another route07:19
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rob^cafuego, yeah tell me about it07:19
biscuit_Do you know your dialup number?07:19
BlazingSteakSaucbut its better then a can and string right07:19
BlazingSteakSaucyup07:19
biscuit_Lol07:19
biscuit_No07:19
biscuit_It07:19
biscuit_Isn't07:19
biscuit_Ok07:19
setiteget older, get a job, and buy your own internet :)07:19
biscuit_Well07:19
biscuit_Go to pppconfig in the terminal07:20
BlazingSteakSaucbiscuit_ i know of a worse isp then aol if that suprises you07:20
biscuit_Lol07:20
La_PaRCajasoncohen, on /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default change all instances of /var/www for /var/www/apache2-default07:20
biscuit_What?07:20
rob^setite, yep pretty much :)07:20
Razor-XBlazingSteakSauc: NetZero?07:20
BlazingSteakSaucfastnet07:20
fortysixand2I call BS07:20
biscuit_Lol07:20
setiteit may be worse.... but not as lame and evil07:20
biscuit_NetZero stole everything from Juno07:20
setitehey netzero was cool07:20
biscuit_Juno had the first dialup accelerator07:20
BlazingSteakSaucthe dude on this one chat got kicked every hour for no rerason07:20
biscuit_Before AOL *SHOCK07:20
setitei liked having free internet while it lasted07:20
Razor-Xsetite: not anymore ;)07:21
biscuit_Had the first *mass online web storage07:21
Razor-Xif you liked 14.4 k, well *shrugs*07:21
jasoncohenLa_PaRCa, lol, i just found that myself. thanks though07:21
biscuit_Is cheap and reliable07:21
BlazingSteakSauci used up netzero's limit in 1 day07:21
biscuit_Lol07:21
biscuit_Well07:21
biscuit_Get Juno07:21
La_PaRCajasoncohen, however, why dont you just put your site under /var/www ?07:21
biscuit_NetZero Sucked always07:21
IIIEarsJuno - roamed the net when dinosaurs walked the earth. pioneer. - grin07:21
Razor-XBlazingSteakSauc: you can keep your AOL ;)07:21
biscuit_Lol07:21
biscuit_Juno07:21
setitefree never fully sucks07:21
biscuit_Is Old07:21
Razor-XAOL makes you pay for crap07:21
La_PaRCajasoncohen, um, and about mythweb, do you have php installed?07:21
setiteaol is a joke07:21
biscuit_But kicks AOL's ass and earthlinks and msns07:21
jasoncohenLa_PaRCa, my real issue is that a guy running ubuntu has http://serverip/mythweb/ try to open the php file rather than showing the site07:21
BlazingSteakSaucRazor-X im not payin for it07:21
setitewhat is it.. 25$ a month now07:21
Razor-Xbiscuit_: I love Earthlink07:22
biscuit_AOL is like Alice in Wonderland.... Though up by some guy on drugs07:22
biscuit_Lol07:22
setitethats so sad.. here you can get basic cable for 5 bucks more07:22
Razor-Xwhat with my fiber optic lines07:22
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biscuit_Razor-X: Earthlink dialup..... you poor poor soul07:22
biscuit_Lol07:22
hybrid_gothaol is internet w/training wheels07:22
biscuit_I live to far for DSL :-(07:22
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Razor-Xbiscuit_: you know, Earthlink gives DSL, right?07:22
BlazingSteakSaucwell when i get my wireless network funnun im looking for a hotspot to tap into07:22
setitedsl is lame07:22
thechitowncubswhy is everyone still talking about aol07:22
biscuit_Yea07:22
thechitowncubsmy god07:22
biscuit_Lol07:22
Razor-Xsetite: yeah, stick with your shitty cable07:22
thechitowncubsit doesn't deserve all this attention :)07:22
biscuit_Cable07:22
biscuit_Haha07:22
setitesprint has been promising dsl throughout vegas for years07:22
Razor-Xsad thing is, Cable will never be as fast as DSL07:22
calcyou can actually download the source for the aol dialer from linspire07:22
Razor-XXD07:22
La_PaRCajasoncohen, um, thats because he doesnt have php installed.07:22
calcand then compile it yourself07:23
calchttp://www.linspire.com/lindows_products_details.php?product_id=12787&pg=specs07:23
biscuit_Lol07:23
Razor-Xcalc: exactly07:23
biscuit_Who would want it calc?07:23
Razor-Xthat's the dialer07:23
rob^calc, thats just dumb07:23
setiteand they havent got it because they cant get it to work consistently withint a few miles of their datacenter07:23
La_PaRCajasoncohen, he needs apache2-php-mod07:23
BlazingSteakSauccalc it wanted me to buy07:23
setitecable rocks it here07:23
calcbiscuit_: whoever uses aol? :)07:23
biscuit_Everyone.. just use pppconfig for your dialup concerns07:23
Razor-Xsetite: Cable slows down when multiple users use the line07:23
biscuit_Lol07:23
rob^if you knew how to compile things, you wouldnt use aol07:23
regeya_j00 r s0 l33t07:23
calcBlazingSteakSauc: if you use linspire and want to get the deb you have to buy it maybe07:23
setitei get great speeds... i never get disconnected... and i dont have to live in the ghetto where the cable company is07:23
Razor-XDSL slows only when I use the phone, and only barely07:23
La_PaRCajasoncohen, sorry, its libapache2-mod-php407:23
calcBlazingSteakSauc: to get the source you just download the tar.gz and .dsc and extract and rebuild it07:23
setitewhere the phone company is i mean07:23
regeya_OMG LOL IHBT IMHO HTH HAND07:24
Razor-Xso, if it's a busy night, 20 people on your block watching stuff, another 10 browsing/downloading, prepare for massive slowdown07:24
biscuit_BlazingSteakSauc.. just use pppconfig07:24
jasoncohenLa_PaRCa, thanks07:24
setitenah not here07:24
biscuit_AOL is a mad resource hog07:24
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biscuit_MAD MAD MAD!07:24
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BlazingSteakSauci'll try the pppconfig07:24
Razor-XSDSL kicks ass ;)07:24
La_PaRCaI wonder if its too late to call domino's...07:24
setitethe lines are big enought that my speeds are the same no matter what time of day it is... the slowdown used to happen years ago07:24
Razor-XCable can't even _touch_ SDSL07:24
biscuit_*Wishes he lived close enough for DSL07:24
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regeya_l33t07:24
biscuit_FIBER OPTIC RULES!07:24
setitechildren... think you know it all07:24
Razor-Xsetite: and I use Fiber Optic DSL07:24
biscuit_But i don't have it....07:25
regeya_l33t l33t l33t07:25
BlazingSteakSaucbiscuit_ i got enough space to habdle the little punk07:25
Razor-Xcomes with a rich house XD07:25
aru_I wish I could get something besides MSN :)07:25
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setitecable is fiber optic too numbskull07:25
calcRazor-X: what speed SDSL?07:25
biscuit_BlazingSteakSauc: I have a P4 3.00 ghz proc w/ HT with 512 MB ram and it screwwd up my comp07:25
Razor-Xsetite: don't use your ``age == superiority'' to me07:25
Razor-Xsetite: depends on your location07:25
calcRazor-X: when i had SDSL it topped out at only ~ 1.1Mbps07:25
Razor-Xcalc: it can go much faster07:25
regeya_I don't have DSL, don't have DSL available, but my neighbors are several yards away.  I'm happy.07:25
calcRazor-X: but that was ~ 6-7 years ago07:25
Razor-Xthat's some slow SDSL shit07:25
Tachey guys... the new version is about to be released and I havent gotten my batch of cds for this release..... should i be emailing someone to see if i got skipped? or are there just too many people wanting cds.....07:25
setitecox cable in vegas replaced all their lines with fiberoptics for more robust dependable service07:25
BlazingSteakSauclol sucks for you aol has yet to get outa line on here07:25
Razor-Xahhh, ok07:25
setiteand bla bla... so all i know is i get fast speeds always07:26
biscuit_Lol07:26
regeya_apt-zip is my friend.  go to work, plug in a usb drive, run the script, bring the debs home.  yay.07:26
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vladuz976can someone help me please. i am getting errors trying to mount/format a new drive07:26
Whistlerhow can i clear apt-get cache?07:26
biscuit_Fiber Optic Still Rules!07:26
setiteand the phone company cant get it right...07:26
calcsupposedly sdsl tops out at 2320kbps 2.3Mbps07:26
calcaccording to wikipedia07:26
regeya_biscuit_ l33t l33t l33t07:26
Razor-Xcalc: exactly07:26
calcperhaps you didn't really have real sdsl?07:26
biscuit_Isn't FO connect at 100 mbps?07:26
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BlazingSteakSauci hope you got no rats biscuit_ or by by fiber07:26
calc2.3Mbps is slow compared to cable07:26
setiteproblem with dsl is that it has distance limits07:26
fortysixand2Cox around here gets up to about 480KBps sustained downloads07:26
biscuit_BlazingSteakSauc: Ummmm.....07:26
fortysixand2my dad's DSL is shite in comparison07:26
biscuit_What does that even mean?07:26
Razor-XBlazingSteakSauc: if you can afford Fiber Optic, I don't think there'll be rats around07:27
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calcfortysixand2: which is about 1.5x sdsl speed :)07:27
setitefortysixand2 same here... that and about 100kbps more on a good day07:27
Whistleri am using 128kbps07:27
Whistler:P07:27
fortysixand2lol07:27
razerslutis there a way to play shoutcast in linux?07:27
BlazingSteakSaucyou ever hear of the country going fiber?07:27
calcfortysixand2: i get about the same from cox on their 4Mbps plan07:27
BlazingSteakSaucrats killed the plan07:27
setiteand i get 80kbps upload to one person and up to 170kbps uploading on a torrent07:27
regeya_we all know that if you can afford fiber, not only do you not have rodents, but your fecal matter has no odor07:27
biscuit_I am using 56k with an average of 1 - 4 kbps!07:27
GoRi||ahey, i got a tvtuner card, and all the channels are off by one...its a brooktree based card07:27
biscuit_WOOT!07:27
IIIEarsfortysixand2 - socal.rr.com gets about 600kbs07:27
Razor-XBlazingSteakSauc: I don't live in the country, thank god07:27
GoRi||aany ideas?07:27
biscuit_TAKE THAT!07:27
BlazingSteakSaucbit throught the fiber07:27
biscuit_Hey07:27
fortysixand2I am on the 4Mbps plan too07:27
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regeya_biscuit_, same here07:27
biscuit_The country kicks but!07:27
regeya_indeed.07:27
biscuit_regeya: Do you have linuxant?07:27
setiteim on whatever their mid plan is07:28
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Razor-Xbiscuit_: yeah *cough hick *cough07:28
fortysixand2IIIEars:  is that a 4Mb plan?07:28
BlazingSteakSaucno as in hillbilly razor the who US was going to be fiber07:28
vladuz976can someone help please?07:28
regeya_biscuit_, good lord no.07:28
setiteit used to be slower but they upped everyones plan07:28
biscuit_Razon-X: Lol... at least i won't get shot when i walk out my door :-P07:28
calcrazerslut: just use any player to connect to the server07:28
supernixhow safe are the backport mirror to have ?07:28
biscuit_regeya.. i do, can you help07:28
biscuit_Lol07:28
Razor-Xbiscuit_: I don't live in an urban metropolis07:28
calcrazerslut: if you mean to stream yourself there is a sever called icecast that does it07:28
regeya_biscuit_, I just threw away a conexant modem07:28
Razor-XI hate those places07:28
setitethats southern cali road runner?07:28
Razor-XSuburban is the way to go07:28
biscuit_Lol07:28
IIIEarsfortysixand2 - they promised speeds up to 3mbs a bit more cash and you will be promised 6mbs07:28
Razor-XSoCal just bites off us07:28
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Razor-Xmost of 'em (not all) are beach idiots07:28
biscuit_But can you yell out loud wihout getting arrested?!?07:29
Razor-Xstill, lots o good programmers come from SoCal07:29
Razor-Xbiscuit_: yes07:29
calcBlazingSteakSauc: the whole country isn't going fiber to the curb for a very long time07:29
regeya_biscuit_, for full support you have to pay for a license, which stinks.  paying for a license for a cheap modem, versus buying a real modem...hm.07:29
biscuit_Doh!07:29
supernixthis is what I am talking about http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/07:29
biscuit_regeya: Keygen...07:29
biscuit_Lol07:29
fortysixand2IIIEars: cox here only goes up to 5Mb.  But it's $15 more than 4Mb, and it's not worth it to me.07:29
supernixanyone else using those ?07:29
biscuit_But it takes my key07:29
biscuit_But then07:29
biscuit_It like07:29
Razor-Xthat, and my dad can afford a nice house ;) being a Mechanical Engineer and all07:29
biscuit_Still says its free07:29
calcBlazingSteakSauc: probably more than a decade away at minimum07:29
biscuit_ENGINEERING ALL THE WAY!07:29
BlazingSteakSaucthey need to get the problem of rats chewing trhrough before they try again07:29
regeya_biscuit_, I have a cute little external modem that has an on-off switch, flashy lights, and plugs into a 9-pin serial port.07:29
biscuit_Lol07:29
BlazingSteakSaucthey tried once and thong they did worked07:30
biscuit_Im really thinking about buying one when i get home from the BS National Scout Jambo07:30
IIIEarsfortysixand2 - i have to agree. 600kbs is plenty fast for the occasional iso07:30
biscuit_How much was it07:30
biscuit_Ummm07:30
fortysixand2yup07:30
BlazingSteakSaucthey covered it kevlar even07:30
biscuit_I would kill someone to get 600 kbps07:30
setitedamnit i need to install flash too07:30
setitegrrrrr07:30
calcat 400KBps you can download an iso in ~ 30min07:30
biscuit_THOUGH MY DIALUP ON WINDOWS RULZ07:30
setitethey need one huge repo with everything you cna think of07:30
biscuit_I once got a d/l rate of 2,280 kbps!07:30
biscuit_So beat that!07:30
calcanything over that is plenty for most uses07:30
biscuit_Over Dialup!07:30
regeya_biscuit_, I would assume then that your keygen license is no good :-)  I don't remember how much my external was, biscuit_ plus I've had it for a while.07:31
biscuit_Woot!07:31
IIIEarscalc - yep - few servers give you that much most are somewhere around 200kbs07:31
calcIIIEars: bittorrent :)07:31
biscuit_regeya: is that external modem any good07:31
regeya_heh07:31
BlazingSteakSaucbiscuit_ i saw a cable line go to sub dialup while downloading07:31
setitewell thats why you use flashget or reget or another download accelerator07:31
regeya_naw07:31
fortysixand2biscuit_:  difference between Kbps and KBps, you know07:31
setiteso that you can bump back up to 400-50007:31
BlazingSteakSauc500bps07:31
biscuit_?07:31
regeya_300 baud all the way BAYBEE07:31
Razor-Xbiscuit_: I don't want to be an engineer07:31
calcregeya_: no 110 baud? :)07:31
Razor-Xmy dad doesen't like what I want to be ;)07:31
biscuit_What do you want to be?07:31
biscuit_What is that?07:32
regeya_calc: now let's not be too silly07:32
setitebiscuit... time for your ridalyn(s?)07:32
Razor-XI wanna sit on some university board and be a math professor ;)07:32
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setitei keep forgetting how to spell that07:32
fortysixand22280 kbps = 285KBps07:32
fortysixand2that's slow07:32
biscuit_Yea07:32
fortysixand2:p07:32
biscuit_But over dialup07:32
biscuit_It's not07:32
fortysixand2ummmm07:32
calcregeya_: i have lots of 5.25" floppies laying next to me07:32
fortysixand2how?07:32
biscuit_I have no friggin clue07:32
setitei dont think dialup can physically handle that07:32
BlazingSteakSauclol07:32
calcregeya_: i noticed earlier that one of them even is an original atari disk with their label on it07:32
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biscuit_But that's the readout07:32
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biscuit_5.25 inch floppies RULED!07:33
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regeya_calc: I have a box sitting on my desk, but mine were for an x86 tandy 1000.07:33
biscuit_THEY HAD THE STUPIDEST YET COOLEST GAMES!07:33
regeya_whee.07:33
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setitewell my ruler reads out that i have a 1 foot tool... but readings arent always accurate07:33
setite:)07:33
calc8" floppies are too old for me, i've seen them before but never used a system that used them07:33
BlazingSteakSauci use em but long time ago07:33
Razor-Xbiscuit_: dude, Space Taxi fscking pwnz!!!07:33
biscuit_Ummm07:33
BlazingSteakSauci use only my usb stick were ever possible07:33
biscuit_All the way!07:34
biscuit_I never had that one07:34
Razor-Xok, I think we should shift the channel  back to #ubuntu and not #ubuntu-offtopic07:34
sproingiehey taxi!07:34
BlazingSteakSauclol07:34
regeya_I remember an IBM word-processing system that was much larger than an XT that had internal dual 8" floppies.07:34
regeya_one drive had the software on it, the other was for data.07:34
razerslutThere is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg07:34
Razor-Xon that note, I hate WYSIWYG word processing ;)07:34
setitewhere can i get a list of debian/ubuntu repos... preferrably 64bit07:34
BlazingSteakSaucanyone ever seen the firsr hd?07:34
razerslutwhat does this mean when trying to play a shotcast in rhythmbox?07:34
regeya_always look on the bright side of life07:34
BlazingSteakSauc1meg and huge as crap07:34
setiteis there non-wysiwyg work processors07:35
Razor-Xsetite: LaTeX07:35
setitei mean i never get more than what i see with notepad07:35
biscuit_Hmm07:35
BlazingSteakSaucmy prof has one for show07:35
regeya_setite: what Razor-X said :-)07:35
biscuit_Well i guess i better get back to cracking hsfconfig07:35
calcbiscuit_: fullheight 5.25" probably07:35
sproingieRazor-X: i'd hardly call latex a wp07:35
biscuit_Linxuant... grrr07:35
setitelatex a repo list or a lame text editor07:35
regeya_if you like punishing yourself you could use groff07:35
Razor-XI write with LaTeX, only word I can call it is ``beautiful''07:35
Razor-Xsproingie: it processess words, does it not?07:35
Whistleri have 128kbps and i have no chanses to have better07:35
Whistler=[07:35
sproingieRazor-X: one usually thinks of some sort of editor07:36
BlazingSteakSaucWhistler you can get better07:36
BlazingSteakSaucget hdsl07:36
calcback in 1994 i helped install a 250GB optical jukebox, took up two full racks07:36
biscuit_Umm07:36
Whistlerhdsl?07:36
Razor-Xusually, but usual and always is not the same07:36
setiteomg... latex looks like something for a nerd to feel more special07:36
biscuit_Is ISDN anygood?07:36
BlazingSteakSauchighest grade of dsl07:36
regeya_setite: I agree.07:36
sproingielout was popular for typesetting for a while07:36
BlazingSteakSaucisdn is old07:36
calcbiscuit_: if you don't have broadband it is07:37
setitesorry but it seems to be a little overkill to use code or syntax for simple word processing07:37
calcbiscuit_: 128kbps when you use both channels07:37
sproingieit didn't really catch on tho07:37
Razor-Xand Word looks like something that retards use because of their brainlessness07:37
Razor-X;)07:37
Razor-Xi'm a nerd, and I don't deny it07:37
setiterazor... you will learn this well one day07:37
Razor-XI wear math terms to school in big font on my chest07:37
BlazingSteakSaucatm is the best out there07:37
setiteI once asked someone what makes native americans so special07:37
regeya_setite: bear in mind that latex is old, and that markup took the place of wysiwyg07:37
biscuit_YES07:37
setitei was told one thing...07:37
Razor-Xand nobody can beat me up because i'm bigger than most ;)07:37
calcapparently isdn is very popular in germany07:37
biscuit_I HAVE AN IDEA *the first07:37
WhistlerBlazingSteakSauc i dont think my telecom provides it07:37
BlazingSteakSaucits in the hunreds of MBS07:37
setitethey have one of the most advanced languages of any peoples07:38
calci remember seeing a pirate bbs listing it had isdn lines in very early 1990s07:38
setiteto which i replied07:38
BlazingSteakSaucbanks use it for obvious reasons07:38
Razor-XWord Processor: A word processor (also more formally known as a document preparation system) is a computer application used for the production (including composition, editing, formatting, and possibly printing) of any sort of viewable or printed material.07:38
BlazingSteakSaucall them credit cards07:38
Razor-Xfrom Wikipedia07:38
regeya_setite: which natives?  I call B.S.  navaho, for example, has no concept of the hypothetical.07:38
razerslutThere is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg07:38
setitethat is why when the "white-man" came they still had bows and arrows\07:38
sproingieRazor-X: it's already factually incorrect with respect to hardware WP's07:38
razerslutwhat does this mean inside rhythmbox?07:38
BlazingSteakSaucatm is probly too much for a common person to use07:39
calcrazerslut: probably need to install gstreamer-mad07:39
IIIEarshehe BBS servers they were always busy (9600 modems) dial hang up dial hang up repeat...07:39
setitethere are some bits of knowledge that are purely a waste of time07:39
Razor-Xthe advantages of LaTeX, is that, it can be converted to almost any documentation format on earth that's OS portable07:39
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HaroldEvening, all07:39
setitelife is short... so think about what you seek to gain when you spend hours learning how to use a non-wysiwyg word editor...07:39
regeya_I learned that from a missionary who gave a talk in the four corners area who in a bible study section "now let's say Johnny got Judy pregnant..."07:39
Razor-Xsetite: and those who don't learn those pieces of knowledge eventually have those same bits bite them in the ass07:39
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setitebecause you think me lazy, but i think your wasting time..07:39
regeya_and Johnny and Judy were people in the study group...you get the picture.07:40
mikeanyone here use fwbuilder?07:40
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Razor-XI'm lazy, lazier than most07:40
setiteyes im sure not knowing how to use latex will bite me in the ass07:40
Razor-Xbut, I like knowing everything about what I use07:40
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DaSkreechjeran_: WineX was renamed Cedega07:40
setiteyour how old07:40
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La_PaRCawow07:40
Razor-X15 man, 1507:40
La_PaRCaxfce is wicked fast07:40
razersluthi im having trouble playing shoutcast inside gnome, can someone help me?07:40
Razor-Xmy personal philosophy is that, from whta I use, I try and learn almost everything07:40
biscuit_How do you set so that Wine reads from the Windows XP folder (if its installed) or replace the fake one it makes07:40
setitethats like trying to learn how to make condoms so you can have sex07:40
BlazingSteakSaucxfce is in the ubuntu cd isn't it07:40
IIIEarsDoes wine work with files from  xp?07:41
Razor-Xsetite: anything wrong with that?07:41
biscuit_IIIEars: For me, no07:41
Razor-Xoh -- I forgot07:41
HaroldLa_PaRCa, It's fast, isn't it?07:41
regeya_setite: I agree, but I use quarkxpress for a living and I think that's about as low-level as one needs to be for typesetting.  but bear in mind setite that latex was designed for terminal/text editor use and that it's designed to make most manual typesetting such as footnotes, TOCs, etc. easy.07:41
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biscuit_Though im trying to work on it so it will07:41
BlazingSteakSaucIIIEars i found some files will07:41
Razor-XAmerica has made it a status symbol that increases the more you don't know07:41
biscuit_Yes07:41
biscuit_Some will07:41
La_PaRCaHarold, it is, it is07:41
setiteyes... when a girl sees you trying to make condoms... shell run off with the guy who has a few ready-made ones in his waller07:41
setitewallet*07:41
IIIEarsbiscuit - that helps - thanks07:41
k-0tikhas anyone here  used fwbuilder?07:41
BlazingSteakSaucdoom3 ain't one of em07:41
Razor-Xthe more idiotic you are the ``cooler'' you are07:41
biscuit_Lol07:41
HaroldAnyone: Know how to get a pcmcia usb 2.0 card recognized/working?07:41
Razor-Xsetite: I don't care about sex, you know?07:41
Razor-X*gasp*07:41
biscuit_Halo isn't one of them either, or Dreamweaver, or Flash MX07:41
biscuit_Or Juno07:42
setitekids these days... next subject07:42
biscuit_*trying to think what else he tried07:42
IIIEarsebaying an old '98 disk sounds like whats needed07:42
biscuit_Or the AIM INSTALLER!07:42
regeya_Razor-X, could you mention this to any GNOME devs you may know?  This business of dumbing down the desktop...07:42
Razor-Xsetite: yeah, I guess we just aren't like our animal brethren anymore07:42
BlazingSteakSaucaim is gay07:42
setitecedega has a stupid website07:42
BlazingSteakSauci use trillian07:42
biscuit_I use Gaim07:42
biscuit_But i go bored07:42
regeya_aim is...gay?07:42
Razor-Xregeya_: there's a reason I don't use Gnome07:42
biscuit_got*07:42
setitehaha... so all people who have sex are animals?07:42
setitethen so be it07:42
BlazingSteakSaucyes aim is gay07:42
Razor-Xsetite: I never said that07:42
BlazingSteakSauctrillian is better07:43
sproingieaim is happy, or homosexual?  i'm not sure how this has a bearing on how it works07:43
k-0tikpeople are animals07:43
setitethen what is your point07:43
HaroldHello everyone.  How do I get my pc card to work on Ubuntu?  It's a USB 2.0 hub.07:43
Razor-XI just say that we're getting farther away from the animals07:43
BlazingSteakSauchomo kind07:43
k-0tikpeople are animals, the earth is round gaim is not gay07:43
regeya_so aim wears brightly colored shirts and has anal sex?07:43
Razor-X;)07:43
k-0tikthere said and done07:43
sproingieBlazingSteakSauc: what are you, like 9 years old?07:43
setitei though gaim was gay07:43
Razor-Xk-0tik: pwnage ;)07:43
setiteGayAIM07:43
BlazingSteakSaucno07:43
setiteright?07:43
razersluthi im having trouble playing shoutcast inside gnome, can someone help me?07:43
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BlazingSteakSauctrillian is a far supirior program07:43
k-0tikw0w007:43
biscuit_Hmmm07:43
setitetrillian rocks now that it finally transfers files on aim07:44
biscuit_Lol07:44
razersluthi im having trouble playing shoutcast inside gnome, can someone help me?07:44
biscuit_Finally!! Woot *Sarcasm07:44
setitesupirior?07:44
setitewow07:44
Madpilothi again all... you know there is #ubuntu-offtopic on which to discuss the sexual preferences of your favourite programs... ;)07:44
BlazingSteakSauci know my spelling is not good07:44
setitehey slut... dont spam... we heard you the first time07:44
HaroldAnyone: Do I need to install more drivers to get a USB 2.0 pc card to work in Ubuntu?07:44
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IIIEarsrazerslut -adding the python extension for your music player may help on a fresh install07:44
razerslutiiiears: how will i do that?07:44
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regeya_heh Madpilot07:44
BlazingSteakSaucunless im doing something for a class i don't care if it is right as long as the point gets across07:45
jasoncohenthat's strange. when i install libapache-mod-php4 on ubuntu php4.load and php4.conf are not added to /etc/apache2/mods-enabled as they are in debian07:45
jasoncohenany reason why07:45
jasoncohenthis would explain why it doesn't know what to do with php files07:45
IIIEarssynaptic search your music player name and add the musicplayer-py07:45
setiteubuntu hoary did 2 things to make my life easier... it figured out how to make my resolution work... and music works too without extra downloads07:45
razerslutiiiears: what is synaptic search, i dont know07:46
setitenow i just need to get all my mouse keys mapped... and find some better repos07:46
regeya_I used to love LyX, used it for some papers in college, and I recently realized that modern wordprocessors tend to have most the whizbang features that used to be unique to latex/lyx built in now...then again, I don't write papers these days, and rarely need to use a WP...meh...I'm done.07:46
setiteand i need to get some equalizer presets.. ebcause this sounds horrible07:46
biscuit_*I need a life...07:46
IIIEarsyes sysnaptic 16,000 apps available for ubuntu just bring it up. - grin07:47
BlazingSteakSaucso Cedega works with guildwars07:47
razerslutwhat is the best mediaplayer for ubuntu linux?07:47
razerslutiiiears: awesome, thank you.07:47
biscuit_Lol07:47
Flying-PenguinI just switched from a 9800 to a nvidia 6600 and now my cedega games don't work :( can anyone tell me how to make sure all parts of my drivers are working properly?07:47
biscuit_In theory07:47
biscuit_WINE could work with WinGames07:47
rob^razerslut, totem-xine07:47
biscuit_BlazingSteakSauc: You have GW?07:47
BlazingSteakSaucyup07:47
biscuit_Awesome07:47
biscuit_That game rulez07:47
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BlazingSteakSaucyeah07:48
BlazingSteakSauci can't find a good team for my mage to do the asencion trials though07:48
biscuit_Hmm07:48
biscuit_Im at the Aurora Glade.. not that far yet07:48
razerslutrob: even for music?07:48
biscuit_Ima mage too.. it can be tough07:48
biscuit_Try to get a lot of monks and tanks07:49
k-0tiknobody here uses fwbuilder!@07:49
k-0tik?07:49
BlazingSteakSaucmy war is past there07:49
BlazingSteakSaucbiscuit_ im a e/mo in gw07:49
biscuit_E/R07:49
biscuit_In GW07:49
BlazingSteakSaucand a w/e07:49
IIIEarsmonks and tanks sounds like a 20th century crusade.07:49
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biscuit_Lol07:49
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setiteblazing do you have cedega07:50
BlazingSteakSaucw/mo is a stupid combo07:50
BlazingSteakSaucno07:50
sproingiei'm picturing a guy in a brown robe poking his head out of a m1a107:50
biscuit_Cedega....07:50
IIIEarsrofl07:50
setiteim pissed... i renewed my subscription and half the site says im subscribed.. the other half says i need to subscribe07:50
setiteso i cant download07:50
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rob^!cedega07:50
ubotucedega is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega07:50
biscuit_Why waste money on it07:50
setiteits 5$ a month...07:51
setitei can spart that07:51
biscuit_Yea07:51
biscuit_But07:51
IIIEarsdoes cedega work with files from XP?07:51
setiteno buts07:51
biscuit_Thats $60 less you had07:51
sproingie"brother jerome, enemy sighted, load ordnance and position for fire"07:51
biscuit_And when in theory you good run those games from WINE07:51
biscuit_But it would take some work07:51
BlazingSteakSaucbiscuit_ what version of gw did you getr07:51
setitei waste alot of money07:51
IIIEarsAmen! - praise the lord and pass the ammunition...07:51
biscuit_Version?07:51
setiteplus i liek to support the cedega team07:51
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biscuit_Isn't there only one?07:51
Agrajag"brother mhenlo, call in air support!"07:51
BlazingSteakSaucno07:52
setitethats what my measley sacrifice07:52
BlazingSteakSaucthe collector has some added stuff07:52
setitehaha i like mhenlo07:52
biscuit_Like Standard and Collectory07:52
biscuit_Oh07:52
biscuit_I have Standard07:52
setitei havent played taht game in a bit07:52
BlazingSteakSaucall my chars have a glow of the hands07:52
sproingiei think in the OGRE universe, the vatican has their own ogres07:52
sproingiepainted in the swiss guard colors07:52
IIIEarsWhat is "GW"?07:52
biscuit_Wicked07:52
BlazingSteakSaucGuild Wars07:53
IIIEarsAh - thanks07:53
IIIEarsbetter than everquest?07:53
BlazingSteakSaucright now i wish i had yahoo dsl07:53
setitei love linux but i wish it didnt appear to be the poor mans OS07:53
BlazingSteakSaucyou mean evercrack don't you07:53
sproingieIIIEars: depends on what you like about mmorpg's07:53
IIIEars(haven't tried any mmorpg's)07:53
BlazingSteakSaucgw makers claim it to be a corpg07:54
setiteguildwars is the best ive played of the whole medieval thing07:54
setiteCoH is my fave though07:54
BlazingSteakSauclame name change for the class07:54
sproingieIIIEars: me neither.  tho GW is more like an online game like diablo than a MMORPG.  instanced, not shared with everyone07:55
setitethe realms are instanced... but its still an mmo i think07:55
setitewhats the c stand for07:55
biscuit_Lol07:55
biscuit_Well07:55
biscuit_Blazing07:55
biscuit_It is a CoRPG07:55
Agrajagcooperative07:55
biscuit_Hey brb07:55
sproingieIIIEars: the other non-mmorpg like thing about it being that online is free.  you just buy the game07:55
BlazingSteakSauccoop rpg is the so calle dname07:55
setiteoh... i see the distinction07:55
setiteyea i can half agree with that07:55
BlazingSteakSauci don't07:56
BlazingSteakSaucyou got henchmen you can hire so how can it be a corpg07:56
BlazingSteakSaucco needs players and it is not set were you must use players07:56
setitegod so picky07:56
jasoncohenfor some reason in debian, when libapache-mod-php4 is added, php4.load and php4.conf are added to /etc/apache2/mods-enabled. the same isnt done in ubuntu so it doesn't know what to do with php files07:57
BlazingSteakSaucits the reality of it07:57
IIIEarsjust took a peek - subscription sites may be okay for some. - i change games a lot. (FPS Fanatic)07:57
jasoncohenwhich is pretty dumb. if you're installing libapache-mod-php4 it serves to reason you want php support, heh07:57
IIIEarsGW - may be a good start at mmorpg07:58
BlazingSteakSauci still prefer NWN over GW for game play07:59
BlazingSteakSaucvery open in what you can do it has a moduale creator with it for custome games07:59
danielsi think discussions of various games are offtopic here07:59
danielscan you please move them to #ubuntu-offtopic or somewhere else?07:59
Whistlerhow to i start ssh server on my system?08:00
BlazingSteakSaucwhy no one is asking an ubuntu question really08:00
setitewhoever posted the ubuntu cedega cvs link thanks08:00
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biscuit_Grrrr08:00
danielsWhistler: install openssh-server08:00
BlazingSteakSauclol08:00
biscuit_*Is now convinced investing in a external modem is the best thing to do08:00
danielsBlazingSteakSauc: huge discussions of games discourage on-topic conversation08:00
setiteshit the instlaler errored08:01
setitegrr08:01
IIIEarsjust have to try it  guess. - look for me next week iiiears-something-or-other08:01
biscuit_Darn Linuxant08:01
setite--------- Error log - file /home/setite/.WineCVS/sources/cvscedega/ErrorLog : ---------08:01
setite/home/setite/.WineCVS/Functions/RunWineCVS: line 728: cvs: command not found08:01
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BlazingSteakSaucif none asking a question we might as well talk on something08:01
razersluthow difficult is it to change folder icons under gnome?08:01
setiteError in CVS checkout08:01
setiteTry fixing the error based on the output above, and08:01
setiterun the script again, without paramaters (Eg: WineCVS.sh)08:01
La_PaRCasetite, apt-get install cvs08:01
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BlazingSteakSaucnow peeps start to ask again08:01
biscuit_Lol08:02
setitethanks la parca08:02
razersluthow difficult is it to change folder icons under gnome?08:02
biscuit_How do i get WINE to read from another Windows foler (Like the Windows XP that i copied onto linux)?08:02
IIIEarsrazerslut - not too difficult - a few choices included in ubuntu already. there are others and tips about installing on gnomelook.org08:02
razerslutalright thank you08:02
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razerslutthis really is a good support channel, you guys have helped me with everything i needed.08:02
razerslutgood job.08:02
dabaRthanksa08:03
setiteshit i dont have a c compiler08:03
dabaRit sucks as a channel, but ok.08:03
setitethats screwy08:03
IIIEarsWelcome to Ubuntu! ("Windows users" "linux community")08:03
dabaRsetite install it/.08:03
biscuit_Anyone have any suggestions on my prob?08:03
setiteyea i know08:03
dabaRhaha08:03
setiteapt-get install gcc08:03
setiteis that sufficient?08:03
dabaRI dont haev any08:03
dabaR!info build-essential08:04
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 10.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB08:04
supernixHi can someone tell me why Kubuntu erased my change in the dns server section of the network section ? I added localhost but it got erased somehow and I am using dhcp to connect to the net with my cable modem08:04
HrdwrBoBdhcp automatically updates your DNS08:04
dabaRsetite: grab that08:04
supernixhmmm HrdwrBoB so it will always erase my changes then correct ?08:04
setitejesus so many erros08:05
setitei guess i should have got all the apps it said i would need08:05
HrdwrBoByes08:05
setitei thought i did08:05
HrdwrBoByou can do it manually though08:05
dabaRwith apt? for build essential, or for teh compilation?08:05
IIIEarsDHCP is a nice convenience. - is it a security risk?08:05
setiteok i have to do this08:05
setiteapt-get install cvs build-essential bison flex-old libasound2-dev x-window-system-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg62-dev libfreetype6-dev libxrender-dev libttf2 libttf-dev libsdl1.2-dev libsdl-ttf2.0-dev libsdl-net1.2-dev libsdl-gfx1.2-dev msttcorefonts libfontconfig1-dev08:05
setitebut i get an error08:05
supernixHrdwrBoB: how can I make the addition of localhost permanent in the dns selection ?08:05
setiteE: Couldn't find package libsdl-ttf2.0-dev08:05
setiteso i need a better repo?08:06
HrdwrBoBsupernix: to be honest, I'm not sure08:06
supernixok thanks for your assistance HrdwrBoB08:06
setiteanyone knwo where i can find that08:07
dabaRsetite: add universe08:07
setitelibsdl-ttf2.0-dev08:07
setiteok08:07
dabaR!repositories08:07
ubotuhmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:07
setitegod i feel so stupid... i learned all this on warty and forgot08:07
dabaRits same08:08
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dabaRwhy gettinng all that?08:08
BlazingSteakSaucim gonna go try to get this working08:09
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setitethanks ubotu.. i know how to add repos.. i just forgot that there were extras on the current one08:09
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setiteperfect.. the universe did the trick08:09
setitegod i love this room08:09
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thechitowncubssetite: good08:10
setitei also love ubuntu08:10
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mathwizxphey. that's my song08:10
thechitowncubssetite: don't get too excited08:10
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setiteman i wouldnt have touched windows since 95 had i known about his when i tried redhat so many years ago08:10
setitei wont get too excited08:10
dabaRok08:10
La_PaRCasetite, um, ubotu is a bot by the way08:11
setitebut every single breakthrough.. no matter how small is still somethign08:11
setiteok...08:11
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kertratsI have a question08:11
dabaRno08:11
setiteoh thats what all the ! were for08:11
setite!ubuntu08:11
ubotufrom memory, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'.08:11
kertratswhen I was running windows, my computer shut down automatically if it got too hot08:11
setitehaha nice answer08:11
setite!woman08:11
ubotusetite: I haven't a clue08:11
setitehaha!08:11
setitenice08:11
setite!ubotu08:11
ubotuhmm... ubotu is uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu!08:11
kertratswill it still do that on ubntu?08:11
setitekertrats i think so.. thats a bios setting is it not08:12
IIIEarsUbotu you are a genius! - sly grin08:12
ubotuIIIEars: what are you talking about?08:12
setiteon my overclocking mobo it is08:12
kertratsI thought so, but I figured I would check08:12
La_PaRCa!ubotu woman is a thing men tend to not understand08:12
ubotuLa_PaRCa: okay08:12
razerslutcan someone walk me through changing my logins and slash screens in gnome, or point me to a howto for it?08:12
setiteubotu i love you08:12
Madpilot!good bot08:12
ubotuNo idea, setite08:12
ubotuthanks madpilot :)08:12
kertratsbecause I don't want to break the computer :(08:12
La_PaRCa!woman08:12
ubotuI guess woman is a thing men tend to not understand08:12
La_PaRCaperfect!08:12
Computer__Guruyou should probably forget that08:13
thechitowncubs!woman08:13
setiteyea well because pcs cost money i cant guarantee08:13
setitebut from my overclocking knowledge its a hardware setting that monitors temps08:13
thechitowncubs!amarok08:13
ubotu[amarok]  a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. amaroK makes playing the music you love easier than ever before - and looks good doing it. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/08:13
thechitowncubswow08:13
jblubob2 are you on?08:13
Computer__Guruyou'll get yelled at for putting in stuff like that08:13
setiteyou can customize in windows to a even safer temp.. but at a certain temp your motherboard will force your pc to shut down08:13
razerslutcan someone walk me through changing my logins and slash screens in gnome, or point me to a howto for it?08:13
La_PaRCaComputer__Guru, who is ever gonna ask that tho?08:13
Madpilotyou can also talk to the bot privately - just "/msg ubotu <foo>"08:13
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thechitowncubs!audioscrobbler08:13
ubotuthechitowncubs: Wish i knew08:13
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: the ! things are all listed08:14
aruis there a way to make ubuntu autologin to a certian user?08:14
Madpilothttp://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:14
setiteno!!!!08:14
setiteit still errored after all that08:14
setite::tear::08:14
dabaRrazerslut: well, art.gnome.org has faqs for that stuff, but, dont post twice, also, and loginscrenn is changed in the system menu08:14
setitemake[1] : Leaving directory `/home/setite/.WineCVS/sources/cvscedega/winex/unicode'08:14
setitemake: *** [unicode/libwine_unicode.so]  Error 208:14
setiteError in Make08:14
thechitowncubs!audioscrobbler is a music service that builds a profile of your musical taste using a plugin for your media player08:14
ubotuokay, thechitowncubs08:14
thechitowncubs!audioscrobbler08:14
ubotuwell, audioscrobbler is a music service that builds a profile of your musical taste using a plugin for your media player08:14
thechitowncubsgood job08:15
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La_PaRCaMadpilot, thats a biiiigggg list08:15
jcapotelast question before I install, how long does the average ubuntu install take?08:15
setitefast08:15
Burgundavia45 minutes08:15
La_PaRCajcapote, 20 to 40 mins08:15
dabaRhalf hour. depends on cd reading speed, too.08:15
MadpilotLa_PaRCa: the most recent stuff is on top of the first page, and it's searchable08:15
jcapote1.6ghz pentium m, 512 ram08:15
thechitowncubsjcapote: what kind of processer?08:15
setitetook me around 15 mins08:15
setitebut i have a fast pc though08:15
thechitowncubsjcapote: i'd give it 20min08:15
jcapoteok08:15
jcapoteill time it08:15
arujcapote: I can smoke two cigarettes during the install on my 1GHz amd laptop08:15
aruthat help?08:15
thechitowncubsjcapote: i'd like to know the results08:15
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MadpilotLa_PaRCa:  oddball stuff is sometimes cleaned off the bot's list08:16
setiteanyoen knwo what that libwine error is08:16
setitemake[1] : Leaving directory `/home/setite/.WineCVS/sources/cvscedega/winex/unicode'08:16
setitemake: *** [unicode/libwine_unicode.so]  Error 208:16
setiteError in Make08:16
jasoncohendoes anyone else notice that after libapache-mod-php4 is installed, php doesn't work? i tried the simple example on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installphpapache and it just tried to open testphp.php in gedit08:16
aruI dunno, paste it a few more times...08:16
thechitowncubsplease don't paste code in here setite08:16
thechitowncubsuse http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl08:16
setite../include/winbase.h:1499: error: syntax error before '*' token08:16
setitethats just one line08:16
setitei wont post multi lines08:17
La_PaRCajasoncohen, its libapache2-mod-php408:17
jbluquestion please08:17
thechitowncubs!abiword08:17
ubotuthechitowncubs: No idea08:17
jasoncohenLa_PaRCa, oh, heh08:17
dabaRjblu: no.08:17
jbludoes someone know if laserjet 1022 has a driver08:17
La_PaRCajblu, here you go, this one is for you. ?08:17
jbluyes08:18
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jasoncohenLa_PaRCa, that worked, thanks08:18
La_PaRCa!linuxprinting08:18
ubotuLa_PaRCa: I don't know, could you explain it?08:18
thechitowncubs!abiword is a Gnome/GTK based word processor for more information goto: http://www.abisource.com/information/about/08:18
ubotuthechitowncubs: okay08:18
jblujust bought it today08:18
jasoncohenLa_PaRCa, ubuntuguide just says to install php4 which depends on libapache-mod-php408:18
La_PaRCaubotu linuxprinting is http://www.linuxprinting.org08:18
ubotuLa_PaRCa: okay08:18
thechitowncubs!abiword08:18
ubotumethinks abiword is a Gnome/GTK based word processor for more information goto: http://www.abisource.com/information/about/08:18
La_PaRCajblu, check linuxprinting.org08:19
jbluyes, found some nasty remarks from others, and some tries at hacking, nothing recent08:19
setite!woman is a complex, evil, seductive creature08:19
ubotu...but woman is already something else...08:19
setite!woman08:19
ubotuhmm... woman is a thing men tend to not understand08:19
setiteoh someone beat me to that08:19
setitebut i tried that like 5 mins ago08:20
jbluI think I should return it!08:20
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setite!knob08:20
ubotusetite: I don't know08:20
setite!windows08:20
uboturumour has it, windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative08:20
bob2jblu: ?08:20
jbluyes08:20
Computer__Guruyou guys should stop putting stuff int he bot.. ur gonna get yelled at08:20
dabaRplease message the bot08:20
dabaRif you wanna talk to him08:20
setite!bill gates08:20
ubotusetite: I give up, what is it?08:20
setite!billgates08:20
ubotuWish i knew, setite08:20
setite!devil08:21
ubotusetite: Wish i knew08:21
La_PaRCajblu, should be detected automatically by cups methinks.08:21
Burgundaviasetite, please stop filling the bot with useless information and flooding the channel08:21
jbluI just bought a laserjet 1022 today, can't find a driver,08:21
thechitowncubssetite: what are you doing?08:21
setitei fed him one thing08:21
setitei was seeing what the bot knew about windows08:21
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jbluIt stops at laserjet 101508:21
setitei was dissappointed with the bill gates answer i must say08:21
La_PaRCasetite, you can do all that via private message08:21
dabaR /msg ubotu bill gates08:21
Madpilotsetite: "/msg ubotu <foo>" for a non-flooding chat08:21
jcapoteok guys im off to install ubuntu08:21
dabaRsee ya08:22
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dabaRsoon when you need help08:22
IIIEarsthechitowncubs - music for IRC xmms to X-Chat 1.0a (Not for #Ubuntu of course)08:22
thechitowncubsgood job on the google08:22
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La_PaRCajblu, have you tried with any of the other laserjets drivers?08:22
Computer__Gurusetite: not everybody int he open source community views microsoft as 'the enemy' or something evil and bent on worldwide domination.. we just don't see their products as worthy of the purchase price08:22
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Ali`Ghey all08:23
Ali`G  Tcl cannot be found on this system.08:23
Ali`G  Eggdrop requires Tcl to compile. If you already have Tcl installed on08:23
Ali`G  this system, and I just wasn't looking in the right place for it, re-run08:23
_ryanif anyone could advice me on this seemingly simple error (on my part), it would be much appreciated. I uploaded the text to a webpage so I don't clutter the channel: http://www.freewebs.com/ryanazar/please_help.html08:23
Ali`G  ./configure using the --with-tcllib='/path/to/libtcl.so' and08:23
Ali`G  --with-tclinc='/path/to/tcl.h' options.08:23
Ali`G  See doc/COMPILE-GUIDE's 'Tcl Detection and Installation' section for more08:23
Ali`G  information.08:23
Ali`Gwhere do i get it from08:23
jbluIt doesn't see the usb, I read something about it being funky code involving usb08:23
aruI hate you08:23
jblufor this model08:23
proof_of_deathme too08:23
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dataangelI'm trying to build an X11 app and I'm getting this error: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11" But I have libx11-dev and x-dev installed. What am I missing?08:23
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La_PaRCajblu, sorry, I dont know about this specific model.08:24
proof_of_deathis this what people do on the ubuntu server? just sit here and spam with their problems?08:24
jblubut it's over my head!  I think it's going back08:24
_ryanproof_of_death: isn't that what it is for?08:24
Agrajagthis isn't an ubuntu server08:24
La_PaRCaAli`G, apt-get install tcl08:24
lirazI'm having some trouble with booting into windows. There is no option in the grub menu... so basically what I'm wondering is how do I tell the number of a hardrive. I have /dev/sda and /dev/sdb(both big sata drives). windows is installed on /dev/sdb(first partition). I'm guessing that it would be root(hd,1,0) but I honestly am not sure :/08:24
Agrajagthis is a channel on freenode, which probably runs on several OSes08:24
jbluthnx La_paRCa08:24
_ryanif anyone can suggest a place for me to go to get help, i would be happy to go elsewhere.08:24
BurgundaviaAgrajag, yes it is08:24
AgrajagBurgundavia: every node on freenode runs ubuntu?08:25
proof_of_death*checks url* oh. well then. i just clicked "ubuntu servers" in x-chat. i didn't bother to look at the address :-X08:25
BurgundaviaAgrajag, no08:25
jbluu2 bob208:25
BurgundaviaAgrajag, that link in xchat just goes here, to make it easy for new people08:25
_ryani do not want to disturb others, i just need help for my question :X08:25
Agrajagahahahaha wow08:25
AgrajagI never knew they had that, I already had a .xchat08:25
_ryani am guessing this isn't the place to get help, I appologize.08:26
_ryantalk to yall later08:26
Agrajagyeah it is08:26
_ryanit is? :X08:26
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Agrajagwho said it wasn't?08:26
La_PaRCa_ryan, what is your question?08:26
proof_of_deathyes. i was just unaware. consider me enlightened08:27
dataangelliraz: I think you want root(hd1,0)08:27
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dataangelliraz: No harm in trying it I think, don't think trying to boot off something nonbootable will mess up anything.08:27
La_PaRCathis is the ubuntu support channel after all08:27
dataangelliraz: Notice there's only 1 comma, too08:27
lirazdataangel, right. Just wondering though how the numbering works - fdisk -l wont give me numbers etc08:27
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lirazyep ;)08:27
_ryanLa_PaRCa: I am trying to compile a simple program and gcc is giving me a few errors, i set up a small log showing what gcc spit out and what command i used here: http://www.freewebs.com/ryanazar/please_help.html08:27
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setitewhats that ubuntu pastebin again08:28
La_PaRCa_ryan, ok. That is helpful.08:28
_ryanLa_PaRCa: thanks for taking the time ( :08:28
dataangelliraz: Grub is funky because it uses it's own numbering scheme I'm pretty sure hdX corresponds to drive number X. So /dev/sdb would be your second drive, which in 0 based counting makes it hd1, and first partition is partition 0, so that seems right.08:28
paxliraz: for numbers, run the command grub and use tabbing08:28
proof_of_deathi don't believe includes are supposed to have those () around them08:29
proof_of_deathi write C++, and i've never seen that. at most ""08:29
_ryanproof_of_death: this i am aware, if i used normal braces it would comment them out in the html08:29
dataangelLa_Parca: Next time use www.rafb.net/paste It's setup exactly for that purpose, save yourself some time :)08:29
_ryandataangel: thanks for the link :D08:30
dataangelLa_Parca: Do you have libx11-dev installed?08:30
jbluwhat is the correct # setting for files in ~home?  My copied music and docs all have locks and sudo chown doesn't change it.08:30
lirazdataangel, ok. let me try re-work my grub.conf then08:30
lirazjust moved from fedora08:30
dataangelLa_Parca: It'll also let you keep the <> ;) But for future reference you can use those in HTML, just put &lt; &gt; (lt for less than, gt for greater than) Not too bad if you use find replace08:30
jbluI have to change one by one08:30
_ryandataangle: the question is not la parca's, it is mine08:31
dataangel_ryan: Doh, read you addressing him :P08:31
_ryandataangle: but tahnks for the tips :-D08:31
dataangel;)08:31
dataangelliraz: If you still have a grub.conf from fedora, you can use that as a reference08:31
La_PaRCa_ryan haha... libx11-dev is the way to go08:32
La_PaRCadataangel, thanks08:32
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Razor-Xback08:32
_ryanLa_PaRCa: but i have the header files in the folder, is that not correct?08:32
dataangelliraz: I find it useful when I'm trying different distributions if I find one that 'just works' when I install to backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /boot/grub/grub.conf and any other settings files that maybe tricky.08:32
razerslutcan someone tell me how to install a gtk theme?08:33
_ryanLa_PaRCa: in addition, i just checked synaptic and it says libx11-dev is installed.08:34
holycowdownload one from art.gnome.org08:34
holycowthen08:34
holycowopen up the theme dialog, and select install08:34
lirazdataangel, long story short - I reformatted, tried to reinstall fedora with faulty .iso. Dont want to re-download so I'm using ubuntu ;)08:34
setitehttp://www.freewebs.com/maddmarshall/cedegacvs.html08:34
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=== Razor-X loves LaTeX
lirazI was silly not to back up my good configs08:34
IIIEars"Themes" app in ubuntu allows some themes to be added by dragging and dropping them. - nice08:35
nomasteryodaliraz, but now you have fun Ubuntu08:35
nomasteryoda=)08:35
La_PaRCa_ryan, however, you are calling X11/Xlib.h08:35
La_PaRCa_ryan, and the header file is in the same folder as what you are compiling08:35
razerslutiiiears: dragging from where to where?08:35
razerslutwhenever i try to use the theme dialouge i get invalid file format08:35
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Razor-Xnomasteryoda: is there a reason you prepended a ``no'' before ``masteryoda''?08:36
Razor-Xlike, are you Sidious? ;)08:36
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_ryanLa_PaRCa: they are copies. i put them in there because i kept getting that error when i tried to build. the real files are in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/08:36
IIIEarsrazerslut  preferences > Theme > Theme Details08:37
nomasteryodaRazor-X, lol... nah, just when Luke said, "I can't lift the X-wing"... no, master yoda08:37
Razor-Xnomasteryoda: ohhh, ;)08:37
Razor-XI rewatched the OT again08:37
nomasteryodaty08:37
La_PaRCa_ryan, I am not sure then. You'll have to ask someone that knows a little more about c08:37
dataangelAnyone know why ld can't find -lX11 even though I have the x11-dev package installed?08:37
La_PaRCa_ryan, and ubuntu and X programming08:37
Razor-Xit's nowhere near as good as PT, IMO, but hell, I grew up in the PT Generation08:37
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_ryanLa_PaRCa: thankyou for you're time :-D08:37
nomasteryodadataangel, did you do ldconfig08:38
Razor-Xdataangel: I think you need the X.org ones too08:38
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Razor-XI have the X dev libraries, just don't remember what the package name was08:38
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La_PaRCaubotu tell me about cedega08:39
Razor-Xanyone here listen to podcasts?08:39
dataangelRazor-X: apt-cache search xorg doesn't bring up any xorg-dev packages. I just did sudo ldconfig, didn't seem to help. Hrm... maybe I have to start a new shell...08:39
Razor-X!cedega08:39
ubotuI heard cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega08:39
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ws008hai08:39
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doctor_salviawow guys tonight is nice... kicken back after my days work and smoking my ever so great concoction of pipe tobacco and salvia.08:40
doctor_salviaindeed its great08:40
thechitowncubslol08:40
doctor_salviau ever tried salvia?08:40
doctor_salviaits legal08:40
thechitowncubsI've heard of it08:40
Razor-X.....08:40
thechitowncubsis it powerful?08:40
doctor_salviadepends08:40
doctor_salviatheres the leaves then theres extracts08:41
Razor-Xhahaha, people care more about euphoria than legality anyways08:41
Razor-Xthat much i've observed ;)08:41
doctor_salviaindeed08:41
doctor_salvialol08:41
doctor_salviai smoked a bowl of salvia 20x (20 times the power of the leaves) and forgot who i was08:41
thechitowncubsweed > salvia or salvia > weed?08:41
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doctor_salviait adds a nice but odd touch if its been aged i na jar and gotten slightly moldy08:41
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doctor_salviasalvia is about as good as weed08:42
thechitowncubsthats interesting08:42
doctor_salviadoesnt last as long08:42
zophyxwhat's the best text editor to use for programming ?08:42
doctor_salviamix em ;)08:42
thechitowncubsvim08:42
setitewhat does ubuntu use08:42
setitexorg or the other08:42
thechitowncubsxorg08:42
setitei forget which is the older one08:42
setiteok08:42
thechitowncubsxfree is the other08:42
dataangelRazor-X: Do I have to run ldconfig as a normal user? :/08:42
doctor_salviasalvia + weed = wow (STONED AS FUCK)08:42
Razor-Xdoctor_salvia: emacs08:42
Razor-Xdataangel: nopes08:42
thechitowncubslmao08:43
dataangelRazor-X: I installed wxwidgets-dev, which I'm pretty sure should've pulled in any X11-dev packages.08:43
doctor_salviaRazor-X: what about it??08:43
Razor-Xdoctor_salvia: best text editor, bar none08:43
danielsdataangel: which headers/libraries are you actually trying to install?08:43
HrdwrBoBdataangel: better to get build-dep wxwidgets08:43
doctor_salviaRazor-X: bit confusing at times but yes08:43
Razor-Xdataangel: build-dep helps there08:43
Razor-Xdoctor_salvia: never found it confusing, meself08:43
doctor_salviaRazor-X: meh08:44
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Razor-Xjust flowed naturally to me, like water does to bottles, and words do to LaTeX ;)08:44
thechitowncubsdoctor_salvia: pm08:44
Razor-XHrdwrBoB: do you happen to remember the name of that one CLI Podcast listening client?08:44
Razor-XI found a Ruby one, but this weird RSS+Podcast business is... yeah08:44
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lirazno luck with grub.08:45
dataangeldaniels: I'm just trying to get a simple X11 example to compile. ld complains -lX11 can't be found08:45
setitewhere can i get libgtk-1.208:45
danielsdataangel: libx11-dev08:45
danielssetite: universe08:45
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dataangeldaniels: already have it :/08:45
setitewell i have universe but its not finding the package08:45
dataangeldaniels: Already ran sudo ldconfig too08:45
vladuz976does anybody know a word processor capable of japanese input08:46
danielsdataangel: you probaby need -L/usr/X11R6/lib then08:46
setiteyou know i think this script may be flawed08:46
dataangeldaniels: How do I setup -lX11 to correspond to that? I imagine there's a ton of stuff out there I may want to install from source that uses -lX1108:46
razersluthow do i run a bin file that i have downloaded?08:47
doctor_salviasudo08:47
doctor_salvia*hits the pipe*08:47
doctor_salvialol08:47
deFryskrazerslut, depends on what binfile it is08:48
joolzrazerslut: chmod +x file ; ./file08:48
deFryskrazerslut, ./ or sh08:48
razerslutit's a java plugin for firefox08:48
dataangeldaniels: Tried -L/usr/X11R6/lib instead -- now I get a ton of undefined reference errors :P08:48
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razerslutah08:48
Pyrotashi08:48
deFryskrazerslut, ./ and use sudo08:48
razerslutokay08:48
razerslutthank you08:48
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joolzrazerslut: not if it's a plugin08:48
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joolzthen you have to install in from within ff08:48
doctor_salviarazerslut... get a better source list for synaptic08:49
joolzand be prepared for trouble of you're on hoary08:49
joolzrazerslut: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1285408:49
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Razor-Xuggghhh08:49
lirazFails when trying to boot off my new configuration which uses the following layout( last post - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15934 ). /dev/sdb1 = the windows drive(two sata drives). I am greeted with "Fs type unkown : partition type 0x7" and "NTLDR missing"08:49
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aruRazor-X: go to offtopic and check this out08:50
Razor-Xok08:50
deFryskjoolz, package firefox (not mozilla-firefox) from backports works fine here08:50
dataangelliraz: Weird, I never had to resort to any strange tricks like that with xp08:51
setitehey what does it mean if my compiler cant create executables08:51
razerslutactually its' an RPM now that i look08:52
razersluthow do i get on synaptic?08:52
Madpilotrazerslut: System - Admin - Syn Pkg Mngr08:53
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Madpilot!synaptic08:55
uboturumour has it, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto08:55
setitewhat is a c compiler08:55
setitelike the name of one08:56
Computer__Gurugcc08:56
travellergcc08:56
setitei have gcc but im gettin an error08:56
Computer__Gurui might teach myself python08:56
setitechecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables08:56
Computer__Gurudoesnt sound like you have any version of gcc i have ever used08:57
Pyrotashow i can install icq on linux??08:57
setitei just did apt-get install gcc08:57
La_PaRCa!gaims08:57
ubotuLa_PaRCa: I don't know08:57
La_PaRCa!gaim08:57
uboturumour has it, gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/08:57
Computer__GuruPyrotas: there's about a dozen programs that do many im protocols, including icq08:57
jeran_Pyrotas: Gaim does ICQ..08:57
Computer__Guruthere's a howto for gaim?08:58
Computer__Guruthats funny08:58
Computer__Gurugaim -v:08:58
Computer__GuruGaim 1.4.008:58
supernix!java08:58
ubotusomebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.08:58
La_PaRCaComputer__Guru, thats what makes the community great.08:59
supernixthat is so kewl08:59
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supernix!dhcp08:59
ubotusupernix: I don't know08:59
supernix:((08:59
supernixcrap someone needs to write a dhcp primer08:59
jon__where would a java plugin for firefox be in synaptic?08:59
Computer__GuruLa_PaRCa: okay, my point was if you need instructions on how to use gaim... actually getting to the howto is out of the question, lol08:59
Madpilotsupernix: you can /msg ubotu <something> to chat with the bot - and to teach it new stuff08:59
supernixkewl09:00
Madpilot!java09:00
ubotuit has been said that java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.09:00
Pyrotasthx09:00
Madpilotjon__: see the URL that ubotu just posted...09:00
supernixI found out just now I think how to enable localhost for dns server with dhcp but honestly I am to tired to explain it right now09:00
Computer__Gurunot like its that difficult09:02
Computer__Guruand lemme tell ya09:02
razerslutcould someone explain to me how synaptic works?09:02
Computer__Guruwhen you run a local nameserver09:03
Computer__Gurushit loads fast09:03
Madpilotrazerslut: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto09:03
supernixactualy Computer__Guru it is a problem just adding the nameserver in the list fails09:03
dataangelthis is weird, I have to specify -L/usr/X11R6/lib but it's in /etc/ld.so.conf and I've run ldconfig.09:03
supernixeach time dhcp reloads it overwrites your changes09:03
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supernixI had to edit dhcpd.conf to get it to work09:04
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Computer__Guruso turn off dhcp addressing, and assign your box a static ip outside the dhcp range of the router09:04
doctor_salviaTEXAS!?!?!09:04
doctor_salviayou know what comes fro mtexas?!?!09:04
supernixif you want to use a localhost dns server you have to edit dhcpd.conf and uncomment the line about prepend domain-name-server 127.0.0.1;09:04
doctor_salvia:-)09:04
supernixI am running a cable modem and such so not good if I wish to maintain my net connection09:05
Pyrotasand how can i install Gaim?09:05
Computer__Gurui'm just waiting for the person who controls the router here to enable me on 22,80, & 1309:05
Computer__Guruerr 11309:05
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dabaRPyrotas: it is installed.09:05
doctor_salviaapt-get install gaim09:05
Computer__Guruyeah you already got it09:05
dabaRin Apps>Internet09:05
Daemonicdoctor_salvia: enlighten me.. what comes from texas?09:05
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dabaRbush09:05
Daemonic...so?09:05
Computer__GuruDaemonic: dont encourage him, heh09:05
doctor_salviaDaemonic: lol im messin wit cha man09:05
_andreaI installed the Nvidia driver and it works allright...yet at 1024x768 my mAX resolution is 60Hz...when usually its 80Hz...how can i fix it?09:06
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Madpilot"what comes from Texas" could get political & ugly instantly, given the current occupant of the White House...09:06
Computer__GuruLuNaTiK^GuY: modelines09:06
doctor_salviaLOL09:06
doctor_salviayea09:06
doctor_salviait really could09:06
Pyrotasthx09:06
LuNaTiK^GuYComputer__Guru:  modelines? how can i access them?09:06
DaemonicMadpilot: bah...09:06
Computer__GuruLuNaTiK^GuY: /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:07
LuNaTiK^GuYoh ic09:07
doctor_salviaDaemonic: but yea im just messin09:07
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doctor_salviaDaemonic: smoke some salvia :-)09:07
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Computer__GuruI can't speak intelligently on everything that comes from Texas, but I can name at least one billionaire businessman and one national traitor09:07
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Computer__GuruRoss Perot and George W. Bush, of course09:08
doctor_salviasage??!?!09:08
doctor_salviaSAGE09:08
DaemonicSalvia Sal"vi*a, n. L., sage. (Bot.)09:08
Daemonic   A genus of plants including the sage.09:08
doctor_salviasagewisdom.com09:08
MadpilotComputer__Guru: that's *exactly* what I mean. leave it alone, please09:08
Daemonic=P09:08
LuNaTiK^GuYComputer__Guru: which part do i fix?09:08
Computer__Guruheh, okay09:08
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Computer__GuruLuNaTiK^GuY: that i cant tell ya09:08
Computer__GuruLuNaTiK^GuY: but therein lies your problem09:08
Computer__Guruyou're going to need to put in some custom modelines09:09
doctor_salviaDaemonic: i smoked some 20x and forgot who i was09:09
prodigyI'm just new using Ubuntu Hoary..how do I install JRE and get it to work for a game?09:09
Computer__Gurujava:09:09
Computer__GuruUsage: java [-options]  class [args...] 09:09
Computer__Guru           (to execute a class)09:09
Computer__Guru   or  java [-options]  -jar jarfile [args...] 09:09
Computer__Guru           (to execute a jar file)09:09
Computer__Guruwhere options include:09:09
LuNaTiK^GuYcan i reconfigure X?09:09
Computer__Guru    -d32          use a 32-bit data model if available09:09
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Computer__Guru    -d64          use a 64-bit data model if available09:09
Computer__Guru    -client  to select the "client" VM09:09
Computer__Guru    -server  to select the "server" VM09:09
Computer__Guru    -hotspot  is a synonym for the "client" VM  [deprecated] 09:09
doctor_salviaDaemonic: lol09:09
Computer__Guru                  The default VM is client.09:09
Computer__Guru09:09
La_PaRCaubotu tell prodigy about java09:09
Computer__Guru    -cp <class...09:09
dataangelprodigy: www.ubuntuguide.org09:09
Computer__Guruoops09:09
Computer__Gurusorry09:09
Computer__Guru!java09:09
ubotuI heard java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.09:09
dataangelprodigy: Covers how to install JRE09:09
BurgundaviaDaemonic, doctor_salvia this is completely offtopic for here09:09
Computer__Guruubuntuguide:09:09
Computer__Gurush: ubuntuguide: command not found09:09
Madpilot!pastebin09:09
ubotumethinks pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood09:09
Computer__Guru!ubuntuguide09:09
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uboturumour has it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.09:09
Burgundaviadataangel, please don't recommend ubuntu guide09:09
dataangelBurgundavia: Why?09:10
LuNaTiK^GuYHow do I reconfigure X?09:10
Computer__GuruMadpilot: that was actually a !! error, i didnt mean to paste anything09:10
doctor_salviaDaemonic: some nice salvia will make you nice and CURLDED UP IN A BALL TREMBLING CUZ YOU DONT KNOW WHO YOU ARE OR HOW YOU GOT THERE09:10
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Burgundaviadoctor_salvia, this is completely offtopic, please take it elsewhere09:10
Computer__Gurudoctor_salvia: that's the truth... salvia is kinda scary, heh09:10
Daemonicdoctor_salvia: yeah, umm, ooooook.09:10
MadpilotComputer__Guru: paste to the wrong window? ;) been there, done that...09:10
Madpilot...but mine was lots shorter!09:10
dataangelBurgundavia: It's updated for the latest release and at least was accurate for me.09:10
doctor_salviaBurgundavia: sorry lol09:11
Burgundaviadataangel, did you see the link ubotu posted09:11
Burgundaviadataangel, the wiki is a better resource09:11
Computer__GuruMadpilot: no, i typed !java which tried to execute 'java', when i should have typed !!!java to say !java09:11
dataangelBurgundavia: gotcha09:11
Burgundaviadataangel, cheers09:11
La_PaRCaComputer__Guru, ah, you have it easy09:11
prodigyI'm on the wiki but I don't even know where to go09:11
setiteanyone got cedega to run on hoary 64bit?09:11
La_PaRCaComputer__Guru, its not complex at all09:11
prodigySalvia made me hallucinate 3d textures09:11
MadpilotComputer__Guru: huh? !java works for me to get ubotu. why three !s?09:11
Computer__Gurunow, I never said it was complex09:11
IIIEarsWhat Theme packages are suitable for Ubuntu?                                  Metacity?, GDM?,GTK1?, GTK2?09:12
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prodigyand laugh uncontrollably09:12
La_PaRCaIIIEars, GTK209:12
IIIEarsHello Seveas! :)09:12
Computer__GuruMadpilot: I use bangexec on gaim. if you !something it executes 'something' with stdout being the room/conversation that has focus09:12
MadpilotIIIEars: metacity works too09:12
prodigyI'm completely new at Linux, I have no experience at all09:12
prodigyI'm looking for step by step instructions on how to install Java09:12
Computer__GuruMadpilot: !!something does the same, but only echoes the output to you09:12
IIIEarsLa_PaRCa, - Thank You09:12
setiteno one has worked cedega on hoary 6409:13
Computer__GuruMadpilot: and !!!something will say !something09:13
MadpilotComputer__Guru: ouch. that sort of messes with using ubotu, doesn't it?09:13
La_PaRCaComputer__Guru, rofl09:13
Computer__GuruMadpilot: that's why when i typed !java you all saw all that bs09:13
Computer__Gurui meant to type !!!java09:13
dabaRAnd I care because09:13
Computer__Guruubuntuguide:09:13
Computer__Gurush: ubuntuguide: command not found09:13
IIIEarsMadpilot - couldn't find a metacity or GTK2 theme on gnomelook.org that worked using "install theme"09:13
La_PaRCasmooth09:13
Computer__Guru!ubuntuguide09:13
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.09:13
Computer__Gurusee?09:14
prodigyoh okay09:14
MadpilotIIIEars: um, could have sworn I used metacity themes a few weeks ago... maybe not09:14
IIIEarsMadpilot - Bad packages? - Ubuntu is slightly different? - (shrug)09:14
dabaRIIIEars: did you read the faqs at art.gnome.org?09:14
IIIEarsdabar - erm - No, missed that.09:15
IIIEarsgnomelook.org?09:15
dabaRthose are good, as I said, art.gnome.org09:15
Madpilot!themes09:15
uboturumour has it, themes is http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/09:15
dabaRanything to do with skinning, the faqs have it, except the mouse cursors.09:15
IIIEarsi'll take a peek - Thanks09:16
prodigywhere to I type apt-get install build-essential?09:16
mebaran151xterm prodigy09:16
dabaRwhy, prodigy ?09:16
prodigyI'm a complete newb09:16
prodigyI'm trying to install Java for hoary09:16
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dabaRits not in build-essential09:16
dabaRprodigy: follow the wiki.09:16
setitehow do i install a .deb09:16
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setitedpkg -i right09:17
Computer__Guruyeah09:17
dabaRya, why install it like that?09:17
setiteok thats not working09:17
Computer__Gurualthough id add a --no-act at first09:17
Computer__GurudabaR: if you downloaded or built your own .deb file thats how you have to do it09:17
setite--no-act ?09:17
setitewhats that09:17
Computer__Guruor run your own custom repository09:17
dabaRwtf? look at that wiki:)09:18
Computer__Gurusetite: puts the op through a dry run to see if there will be errors09:18
dabaRoff course I did not.09:18
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jasoncohenprodigy, it's also in hoary-extras09:18
setiteok i need to force the architecture now09:18
setite--force-architecture?09:18
prodigyI already downloaded the self-extraxting files that end in .bin and I applied the changes in the Synaptic Package Manager, what do I do next?09:18
Computer__Guruwhat are you installing?09:18
Computer__Gurui dont think ive ever had to force arch09:19
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setitei had to09:19
setiteim installing cedega09:19
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Computer__Guruheh09:19
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prodigyhow do I install the Ubuntu packages fakeroot, java-package, and java-common?09:20
prodigyor is that not for Hedgehog?09:21
dabaRit gives you commands.09:21
Computer__Guruapt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common09:21
prodigyI type that in the terminal?09:21
Computer__Gurusure09:21
prodigymy problem is when I go to the terminal it closes like in 2 seconds09:21
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Madpilotprodigy: they're also installable thru Synaptic, if you'd rather use a GUI09:22
bjvah, speaking of apt-get. -_-09:22
jeran_G,night Everyone09:22
bjvso i uncommented the 2 lines to get to the universe repo, but i still cant find the package after updating apt-get09:22
dabaRprodigy: yes, that would be a problem.09:22
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prodigyokay I'm getting it now09:22
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bjvdo i have to re-comment things too?09:23
bjvim a little lost.09:23
thespiritoftalhi09:23
thespiritoftalhow can I see how many space is left in my harddisk?09:23
Madpilotbjv: which package?09:23
bjvum09:23
Computer__Gurudf -Th09:24
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bjv"Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate"09:24
LuNaTiK^GuYHow can i reconfigure X?09:24
bjvmicrosoft fonts or something09:24
Computer__Guruthen dont install them :D09:24
bjvbut i wants teh fonts (im installing winex)09:24
doctor_salviawww.fat-pie.com w00t09:24
prodigyI can't find the ubuntu package java-package but I have fakeroot and java-common09:25
Madpilotbjv: msttcorefonts is in multiverse09:25
prodigywill these work?09:25
bjvmultiverse?09:25
bjvdifferent from universe?09:25
Computer__Guruthats a pretty ugly site09:25
Madpilot!respositories09:25
ubotuMadpilot: Are you smoking crack?09:25
IIIEarsOkay - Themes - The Drag and drop or add path in the box didn't work adding them manually did. - Very Happy "G5-ish" looks nice09:25
Madpilot!repositories09:25
uboturepositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:25
Madpilotbjv: see the URL that obotu just posted09:26
Seveas!forget repositories09:26
ubotuSeveas: i forgot repositories09:26
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MadpilotSeveas: huh?09:26
Seveasuboru repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/NewUserGuideAddingRepositories09:26
MadpilotSeveas: nvrmind, forgot that d*mned bad URL...09:26
thespiritoftalsorry just got disconnected how can i see how many free space is left in my harddisk?09:26
dabaRprodigy: java-package is also in multiverse.09:26
prodigywhich is where?09:27
dabaRSeveas: uboru, eh?09:27
HappyFoolthespiritoftal: df, on the command line. i think nautilus might tell you too09:27
Seveasubotu repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:27
ubotuokay, Seveas09:27
thespiritoftalthanks happyfool09:27
Seveasthey changed it back again09:27
dabaRprodigy: check out the repo for new users wiki09:28
Seveassomeone forgot that Good URLs Don't Change09:28
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Madpilotprodigy: see that "AddingRepositories" URL that Seveas has been posting09:28
setitedamn the force architecture only half works09:28
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setitei can get the installer to start running but it hangs09:28
MadpilotSeveas: it seems like we've been playing "musical URLs" on that one for a week or two now?09:28
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Seveas:)09:28
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knowledge_I really hope I don't get kicked for this, but it's worth it because I tihnk it's a good cause09:29
jon__could someone post the link to the synaptic howto?09:29
Razor-Xwhen a python app returns an error ``No module named players''09:29
knowledge_http://www.petitiononline.com/linuxswp/petition.html09:29
Razor-Xwhat package do I need to download now?09:29
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MadpilotSeveas: who keeps messing with the wiki's URLs?09:29
dabaRjon searching the wiki can09:29
Madpilot... and ubotu's bangs?09:29
jon__WIKI09:29
jon__explain09:29
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HappyFool!synaptic09:29
ubotusynaptic is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto09:29
SeveasMadpilot, there was an argument about NewUserGuide wiki things lately09:30
Computer__Guruknowledge_: the open source community won this round already. The EU Parliament voted against it something like 200 to 1209:30
dabaRwiki.ubuntu.com/FindPage09:30
bjvok, that link didnt actually tell me where the multiverse is09:30
bjv1 sec09:30
setite!cedega09:30
ubotusomebody said cedega was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega09:30
knowledge_Computer__Guru, that blows09:30
Computer__Gurublows?09:30
dabaR /msg ubotu cedega09:30
Seveasknowledge_, this is another petition09:30
Computer__Guruuhh, the software patent act was DENIED09:30
mgcrossenyone know of any good howto's for hotkeys? wanna set it up to use my defaul apps: firefox, amarok, etc...09:30
SeveasComputer__Guru, this is another petition09:30
mgcrosser anyone09:30
mgcrosslol09:30
Computer__Guruoh09:30
Computer__Guruok09:30
Computer__Guruwhat are we petitioning this time?09:31
Seveasmgcross, 'hotkeys' as in extra keys on your keyboard?09:31
knowledge_Computer__Guru, meaning that there will be no shockwave?09:31
SeveasComputer__Guru, shockwave on linux09:31
Razor-Xso, if a python app complains about ``player'' what should I give it?09:31
bjv:\      ok, that was easy enough09:31
HappyFoolmgcross: look under System -> Preferences -> Keyboard shortcuts09:31
thespiritoftalhow can i update mozilla firefox?09:31
Computer__Guruoh09:31
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Seveasthespiritoftal, you shouldn't09:31
HappyFoolRazor-X: in what context is this?09:31
dabaRthespiritoftal: update how?09:31
Computer__Guruso swp is shockwave player, not software patents :D09:31
Computer__Gurumy bad09:31
Seveasthechitowncubs, latest ubuntu and official firefox break all extensions again09:32
HappyFoolColonelKernel: i thought software patents too ;)09:32
setitegive up spirit.. it more trouble than its worth09:32
thechitowncubsSeveas: why are you telling me?09:32
Razor-XHappyFool: running a python app09:32
Computer__GuruSeveas: thats not good..09:32
mgcrossSeveas: I set up "hotkeys deamon" and it works great....volume mute etc alll work now (special keys on compaq keyboard)09:32
Madpilot:) for a better browser: www.opera.com/download09:32
Razor-XMadpilot: hehehe09:32
HappyFoolRazor-X: i meant, what python app, or what kind of app ;)09:32
SeveasMadpilot, too bad that opera sucks so hard...09:32
dabaRbetter than what?09:32
Razor-XHappyFool: iPodder09:32
knowledge_Could actually be that linux uses less battery?09:32
Seveasknowledge_, yes09:33
Razor-Xagainst my will to take a GUI app, but :(09:33
mgcrossSeveas: just that the config file uses xmms and mozzila instead of firefox evolution, etc09:33
knowledge_because I notice that when on battery it turns the HD off, and the fans when not needed....that's cool09:33
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setitehow do i install from a tar gain09:33
setitemake09:33
dabaRunpack a tar09:33
HappyFoolRazor-X: hm. ok, i don't know. I don't think 'player' is a generic python term. What if you supply 'mpg321' or something similar?09:33
setitemake-install09:33
MadpilotSeveas: your opinion; I've been using Opera since 4.x and 8 is the best yet...09:33
setitesomething09:33
Razor-Xsetite: unpack, ./config, make, make install09:33
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SeveasMadpilot, I guess you never tried any reallt advanced css tricks :)09:33
Razor-XHappyFool: mpg123 and ogg123 are already up and configured on this box09:33
knowledge_when I ran windows, the battery would die in 20 minutes....(no joke, bad cells)...but it's doing fairly well right now09:34
mebaran151Razor-X, what you playing with now?09:34
dabaRman tar09:34
bjvMadpilot, did you search somewhere to find if the mstt fonts were in multiverse?09:34
bjvor did you just guess09:34
Razor-Xmebaran151: wanted to experience this ``podcasting'' thing09:34
mebaran151oh yeah09:34
mebaran151the next big thing09:34
Razor-Xyeah, supposedly09:34
Madpilotbjv: in Synaptic09:34
Seveasbjv, apt-cache search msttcorefonts will tell you :)09:34
mebaran151haha09:34
mebaran151(my sarcasm)09:34
Razor-XI was never into internet fads, meself, but if Leo, Patrick, and Kevin host a show on a Podcast09:34
Razor-Xi'm sold09:34
mebaran151you could always record the news as an mp3 and burn it to your ipod09:34
setitewhats a good bittorrent client09:34
MadpilotSeveas: I've done some middling advanced CSS, it works just as well in Opera as in FF09:35
setiteazureus is giving me shit on the install09:35
Razor-Xmebaran151: I don't have an iPod ;)09:35
mebaran151ah, ok09:35
setiteit wont config and there is no make file i guess09:35
knowledge_the only thing that doesn't work right in ubuntu for me is ummm.....what's it called...OH hibernate09:35
bjvim pretty sure i know what apt-cache search will say.. the "E: Couldn't find package XYZ" sort of tipped me off09:35
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mebaran151Razor-X, as far as I can tell podcasting looks like recording internet radio09:35
Seveasknowledge_, yeah, that's still a PITA09:35
mebaran151which streamripper does very well09:35
Razor-Xmebaran151: something like that, yeah09:35
knowledge_PITA?09:35
mebaran151have you used streamripper09:35
Seveasespecially if you use ATI/NVIDIA/atheros/ndiswrapper...09:35
HappyFoolbjv: then you haven't added the appropriate repositories09:35
Madpilotbjv: you need to have multiverse enabled to find the MS fonts09:35
Seveaspain in the ass09:35
mgcrossno one uses the hotkeys deamon?09:35
bjvalthough i got multiverse added to my sources.list09:35
Razor-Xmebaran151: no, but i've used similar apps before09:35
mgcrosser daemon?09:35
knowledge_Seveas, yeah I think I do....09:35
bjvive got the ms fonts. :P09:35
concept10did you guys know there is an extension in firefox to search ubuntu packages?09:36
mebaran151streamripper is decent09:36
thespiritoftalI can't install java as written in ubuntuguide... when I do sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 it says E: Some packages could not be authenticated09:36
bjvnow its "Couldn't find package libsdl-ttf2.0-dev"09:36
bjv:/09:36
anacronbjv: how 'bout installing it?09:36
thespiritoftalanyone can help me please?09:36
Seveasbjv, that's in universe09:36
bjvi am apt-get installing?09:36
bjvwait.09:37
SeveasFilename: pool/universe/s/sdl-ttf2.0/libsdl-ttf2.0-dev_2.0.6-5_i386.deb09:37
bjvok.09:37
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knowledge_I can't believe there's no shockwave for linux....what if I want addictinggames.com?09:37
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knowledge_those macromedia bastards09:37
paxconcept10: yes and there's another one to search the forums, now you have to make one that search the wiki :)09:37
bjv(i had just edited the universe entry to read mulitverse)09:37
anacronbjv: and add more sources, like universe09:37
bjvi assumed universe was *inside* multi09:37
setitehey whats the thing for rpms09:37
setitedpkg alien -i?09:37
Seveassetite, alien09:37
HappyFoolbjv: good, but unfortunately flawed intuition; they are disjoint ;)09:37
Seveasalien -i foo.rpm09:37
setiteok09:37
HappyFoolbjv: you need main *and* restricted *and* universe *and* multiverse09:38
Seveasbjv: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3809:38
bjvnevar!09:38
bjvim already editing.09:38
Madpilotin this case, the multiverse does not contain the universe. go figure!09:38
HappyFoolyeah, maybe09:38
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HappyFoolaargh. maybe universe-non-free would be more accurate a name09:38
knowledge_why am I watching the weather channel?09:39
Madpilotis Breezy going to ship with all it's repos enabled? would be a great help to noobs...09:39
SeveasMadpilot, no09:39
Razor-Xknowledge_: beter than watching the price of a Japanese game bounce up and down using an exchange rate calculator09:39
pan_hi all09:39
HappyFooli imagine there are support and maybe even legal issues why uni/multi can't be enabled09:39
Seveassupport issues indeed :)09:39
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knowledge_Razor-X, ....I'll agree, but only because I have no clue what the he..ll that is09:40
MadpilotI know the multiverse stuff is nonFree, but if none of it is installed by default why not enabled the repos?09:40
knowledge_Razor-X, thanks again for your help09:40
Madpilot*enable09:40
holycowthis is goddamned weird09:40
SeveasMadpilot, because universe and multiverse are not officially supported09:40
holycowafter last nights upgrade of ffmpeg ...09:40
HappyFoolMadpilot: i think the idea is that only stuff which is officially supported (i.e., main + restricted) is available by default09:41
holycowi get sound but no dialogue09:41
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Razor-Xknowledge_: your welcome09:41
Razor-X;)09:41
MadpilotOK, that makes sense. still, all the stuff that people "need" seems to be in uni/multi...09:41
Razor-Xyou don't know what a currency exchancge rate is?09:41
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HappyFooli have a feeling the number of users coming into #ubuntu is a small, and possibly non-representative sample of 'all' users09:42
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IIIEarsHappyFool - not too many return after things are running smoothly09:42
holycowor rather, its very far back in the mix09:43
holycowwould anyone have a clue how to bring back dialogue into the mix?09:43
holycowon a dvd that is09:43
Madpilotthat sort of thing seems impossible to measure, tho09:43
knowledge_I wonder what that constant high pitched noise is comming from my lappy toppy09:43
Madpilotknowledge_: it's about to explode? ;)09:43
HappyFoolMadpilot: true. and i'm sure ubuntu would *love* to ship mp3 codecs and a dvd player, if it were legally possible09:43
knowledge_Madpilot, seems soo09:44
mgcrosshmmm no takers huh?09:44
IIIEarsIs Ubuntu in the Browser Agent string? - some sites keep % stats. - would be interesting to have a guess at how many there are.09:44
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MadpilotIIIEars: you can always edit your string, if you're feeling hardcore... ;)09:45
HappyFoolmgcross: my 'special' keys work fine without any special daemons running09:45
IIIEars<< - caught red handed - I am using Windows 3.1 - embarrased09:45
Razor-Xany portable MP3 players you people reccomend?09:45
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Razor-X$100 and under, rather09:45
knowledge_I gotta question....how'd so many of you guys learn the command line so well?09:45
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HappyFoolIIIEars: it's in general.useragent.vendorComment -- not sure if that's sent as part the HTTP headers09:46
Razor-Xknowledge_: experience, and in my case, no alternative09:46
knowledge_actually....linux in general, I mean there's SO much to know about it09:46
Madpilothardcore *nix geeks thing GUI is evil09:46
DaemonicRazor-X: ZEN09:46
HappyFoolknowledge_: practice ;)09:46
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IIIEarsfirefox makes it a small edit to change09:46
knowledge_Razor-X, yeah, but I'm sick of reinstalling ubuntu09:46
Razor-Xsee, I tried to get X to work on a box with a defficient box with an onboard card09:46
IIIEarsHappyFool - Brb09:46
knowledge_I installed mandrake at least 14 times a week when I was using it...09:46
Razor-Xand, yeah, I failed on my first attempt, and learned the command-line trying to survive ;)09:47
Razor-Xknowledge_: you know, if you mess up something... you can fix it?09:47
Razor-Xmost always09:47
Razor-XMadpilot: I think GUI is pretty evil09:47
knowledge_Razor-X, yeah, if you know what you did to mess it up....but most of the time I'm copying and pasting someone elses commands09:47
prodigyI just downloaded the Sun JDK beans, what do I do next to get Java to work?09:47
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knowledge_prodigy, ?09:48
knowledge_jdk beans?09:48
prodigynetbeans09:48
prodigyit's a jdk09:48
knowledge_ohhh09:48
MadpilotRazor-X: sure, but you also seem pretty hardcore...09:48
knowledge_oh...sorry09:48
prodigyfrom sun java09:48
Razor-Xknowledge_: there are nice online guides09:48
Flying-Penguinhey guys.... how do you install doom3 on linux?09:48
Razor-XI guess that's the problem from receiving instructions from others *shrugs*09:49
knowledge_does that require patience and effort?09:49
Razor-XMadpilot: hah, do I really? ;)09:49
Razor-Xknowledge_: yes09:49
knowledge_damn09:49
knowledge_lol09:49
Razor-X;)09:49
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prodigywhere do I type in commands at?09:49
prodigyI'm lost09:49
prodigyI'm on the wiki09:49
prodigyand it's telling me all this stuff with no explanation09:49
knowledge_^ my problem with linux09:50
Razor-Xtheterminal09:50
Razor-X*the terminal09:50
knowledge_most people assume the reader knows what's going on...09:50
prodigyonce I get to the terminal, it closes on me09:50
prodigywhy does that happen?09:50
Flying-PenguinHOW do you install doom3 on linux???09:50
Madpilotprodigy: Applications - System Tools - Terminal09:50
prodigyI know that much, but the terminal always closes on me after it asks me for a password09:50
Razor-Xis there a Linux specific version?09:51
Razor-Xprodigy: not the Root terminal, just the terminal09:51
knowledge_Flying-Penguin, http://www.google.com/search?q=+doom3+on+linux&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial09:51
prodigyahhhhh09:51
prodigythanks!09:51
Razor-Xthe fact of the matter is, Linux is an OS based on the command-line09:51
Razor-XUbuntu is the best attempt yet, IMO, of making it user-friendly09:52
Razor-Xbut you can't change its basis09:52
Flying-Penguinknowledge_: thats not what I asked09:52
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Razor-Xbecause, most users have never seen a terminal in their life, previous to Ubuntu, or used it quite sparingly09:52
Computer__Guruthats funny09:53
Computer__Gurui wouldnt say most09:53
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Computer__Gurujust most recent users09:53
Computer__Guruive been around this for some years09:53
Razor-Xtrue that09:53
Razor-Xbut, I learned by a mistake, so *shrugs*09:54
Computer__Guruten or so09:54
Computer__Gururight on09:54
Razor-Xi've used it for 4 users, insofar09:54
prodigywhat if it says unable to lock the administration directory?09:54
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prodigywhat do I do?09:54
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knowledge_Razor-X, surprisingly I was very mildy getting better at the command line while using mandrake thanks to a fellow name Dana Olsen...that guy spent COUNTless our with me explaining things...then I forgot it all09:54
Razor-Xprodigy: prepend a ``sudo''09:54
jeran_I'm new-ish to Ubuntu.. I started on Red Hat 7 and I had a book that taught me a few tricks for the command line...09:54
knowledge_hours*09:54
Razor-Xknowledge_: I can do that, and there are guides out there as well09:54
prodigyI have prepended a sudo09:54
Super_BQis there a chance that Ubuntu can catch a virus?09:54
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prodigymy command is sudo apt-get update09:55
Super_BQi'm seeing funny packets coming through my firewall09:55
Razor-XSuper_BQ: very rare09:55
knowledge_oh yeah, but I don't feel like being a burden on anyone...that feeling sucks09:55
lirazI still am unable to boot into my windows xp partition. I either get no response or NTLDR missing or unkown partition type 0x7(with the many configs i've triedO09:55
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Razor-Xprodigy: should work fine09:55
Razor-Xknowledge_: the best way to learn is to drown09:55
Razor-Xyou either learn to float, or you die trying ;)09:55
Razor-Xmore than likely, the former09:55
knowledge_Razor-X, makes sense...09:56
prodigyE:Unable to lock the administration directory, (etc) is another process using it?09:56
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prodigythat's my error09:56
Razor-Xprodigy: prepend a ``sudo''09:56
Madpilotprodigy: what command did you enter?09:56
LuNaTiK^GuYis installing nvidia different in kubuntu than in ubuntu?09:56
prodigysudo apt-get update09:56
knowledge_everything with linux is cool with me until you get into the whole make, make install...yadda yadda, because I don't know where the files are going, how to unmake...and unmake,,,install09:56
bjvthat usually means there is another apt-get running in another terminal09:56
bjvi dont think so, lunatik09:56
Razor-XLuNaTiK^GuY: nopes09:56
itayhi! I installed kubuntu and every boot it tries to get the time from ntp.ubuntu.org. it takes 20 seconds and then failed, how can I cancel this option?09:56
Madpilotprodigy: is Synaptic still running? if it is, close it09:56
Super_BQsomehow i'm getting 'microsoft-ds' on port 445 from the outbound (external) connection09:57
prodigyyes it is09:57
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prodigythanks09:57
Super_BQand I beleive that is what is buggering up my samba on the LAN09:57
Razor-Xwow, i'm hearing *Patrick*09:57
prodigyhaha it works09:57
prodigythanks09:57
Razor-Xcrazy!09:57
knowledge_itay, kubuntu?09:57
thechitowncubsgood night everyone09:57
Super_BQthe IP is 24.70.132.6809:57
The_Voxknowledge_: the files usuall go under /usr/local/<someplace> unless you tell it otherwise with a --prefix=/<somethingelse>09:57
thechitowncubs3am here09:57
knowledge_The_Vox, aha, I see...09:57
prodigyah, I can't find java-package09:57
Super_BQshows as being "an active connection"09:58
Razor-Xwoooh! Kevin's an Opera user!!!!09:58
LuNaTiK^GuYhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver --> this should work with kubuntu?09:58
The_Voxknowledge_: and to uninstall...if you are lucky, "make uninstall" works...if you are unlucky (and the developer a lazy bastard) you have to go hunt files by hand09:58
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The_VoxLuNaTiK^GuY: yes09:58
knowledge_I think it'd be cool if there was a converter for tar.gz....or you know the "make" sorta programs to make them .deb09:58
knowledge_thechitowncubs, where are you from...09:58
knowledge_wow...nevermind09:58
thechitowncubsChicago09:58
knowledge_I'm a moron09:58
Razor-Xknowledge_: or ``make clean''09:58
knowledge_me to09:58
thechitowncubsya09:58
thechitowncubslol09:58
knowledge_o*09:58
thechitowncubsu have the same ip09:59
Super_BQbrb09:59
thechitowncubsisp*09:59
knowledge_comcrap?09:59
thechitowncubsknowledge: what part of chicago u from09:59
HappyFoolLuNaTiK^GuY: i'd recommend the wiki instructions instead09:59
thechitowncubsyes sir09:59
bjvlunatik, i followed that exact faq just a few seconds ago. :P09:59
bjvyes it worked.09:59
HappyFool!binarydriver09:59
ubotuHappyFool: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about09:59
HappyFool!binarydriverhowto09:59
LuNaTiK^GuYThe_Vox: also after doing all the guide says...should i modify the xorg.conf?09:59
ubotubinarydriverhowto is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto or ask !Display !Resolution !ati !nvidia Please use /msg <your_question> to avoid flooding the channel09:59
knowledge_Rogers park....now in Niles09:59
LuNaTiK^GuYHappyFool: can u point them to me?09:59
thechitowncubsI'm in Lake Zurich09:59
HappyFoolLuNaTiK^GuY: look at what ubotu just posted10:00
thechitowncubswell10:00
thechitowncubsim off10:00
paxDeal of the day: Seagate 120GB Hard Drives @ CircuitCity for $40 if you don't mind MIR.10:00
The_VoxLuNaTiK^GuY: check it...in most instances it *should* be modified by debconf when installing the -glx package, but..."trust but verify" should be your life's motto :)10:00
prodigypax, is this David?10:00
Madpilotme too. 0105 here, and I have to work Saturdays (blech). good night/morning/evening/whatever, all10:00
itayknowledge_, yes I installed kubuntu10:00
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itayhow can I cancel this time update?10:01
knowledge_you know what's weird...when I made my upper bar (forgot what it's called) transparent, the whole thing was transparent.....now I can't get it to be fully transparent, anyone know what's up with that?10:01
paxprodigy: no I wacked him and stole his nicknam10:02
paxname*10:02
prodigyseriously is it David Hulihan?10:02
knowledge_itay, although I have kde installed (for some God forsaken reason) I'm not familiar with it as much as gnome...10:02
paxprodigy: nop.10:02
prodigyah okay10:02
itayI'm not sure it's because KDE10:02
knowledge_no no...it's not10:03
Computer__Gurukde is nice :)10:03
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knowledge_but I don't know where you'd go in KDE to disable it10:03
itaywhy ubuntu tries to get the time from the internet?10:03
The_Voxitay: because it's the smart thing to do?10:03
LuNaTiK^GuYHappyFool: the wiki has much less steps than the unofficial guide10:03
knowledge_Computer__Guru, I used to, but I'm really diggin gnome10:03
Computer__Guruive used gnome enough to know i like kde better :D10:03
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HappyFoolLuNaTiK^GuY: ok. for nvidia the process should be fairly simple10:03
xeroxHello.10:03
prodigyI'm trying to get Java to work for Hoary10:03
prodigycan someone help me with this?10:04
knowledge_Computer__Guru, whatcha mean?10:04
Computer__Gurujava is simple..10:04
xeroxDo you know how to get a more recent automake on ubuntu hoary?10:04
Computer__Guru!java10:04
ubotuI heard java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.10:04
itayknowledge_, how do you disable it in ubuntu? maybe you can run the GUI that you disable it in in a shell and see the command?10:04
HappyFoolprodigy: what's the problem?10:04
prodigyhow do I check my source list and ensure multiverse is added?10:04
prodigywell I know I need java-package, java-common, and fakeroot10:04
prodigybut I don't have java-package10:04
prodigyand I can't find it10:04
thespiritoftalis there any interface with which I can write Python scripts?10:05
Computer__Guruknowledge_: just sayin i decided to give gnome a go when it started getting big.. went back to kde pretty quick.. kde is feature rich10:05
The_Voxitay: cd /etc/rc2.d/ && sudo rm -f S20ntpdate10:05
Computer__Guruand feature rich is good :D10:05
HappyFoolprodigy: what architecture (x86/ppc/amd64) are you on? (not sure it matters, but...)10:05
prodigyx8610:05
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The_Voxitay: cd /etc/rc2.d/ && sudo rm -f S20ntpdate && sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate stop10:05
The_Voxitay: second command series is the correct one10:05
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knowledge_itay, I have "boot-up manager" installed.10:05
VarangerI am getting a strange noise when playing audio in Linux, I have recently configured my soundcard10:05
HappyFoolprodigy: java-package is in the 'multiverse' repository -- have you enabled that?10:05
The_Voxitay: but...why don't you want it to keep the clock correct?10:05
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bjvvi /etc/apt/sources.list   ?10:05
prodigyNo, how do I do that?10:05
bjvat prod10:05
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HappyFool!repositories10:06
ubotuI heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:06
concept10Has anyone installed Nvu 1.0 on hoary?10:06
bjvvi /etc/apt/sources.list10:06
Computer__Guru!vi10:06
ubotuI don't know, Computer__Guru10:06
HappyFoolbjv: read that page10:06
knowledge_itay, if you can find that in your system (synaptics) you found your answer10:06
HappyFoolag10:06
HappyFoolnot bjv, sorry10:06
bjvprodigy: uncomment the 2 universe lines in that file10:06
HappyFoolprodigy: read that page10:06
bjvthen copy them, and change the 2 "universe" to "multiverse"10:06
knowledge_Computer__Guru, maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance, but now that I have gnome all decked out...I'm dreading going thru the hassle again10:07
HappyFoolbjv: you're assuming he can use vi ;)10:07
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knowledge_Computer__Guru, damn it...lol, now I feel like booting up kde10:08
knowledge_brb10:08
holycowthere we go!10:08
holycowweeeeird10:08
paxanyone can use vi. vimtutor will get you going in less than 20 minutes10:08
itaythank you, I will check it10:08
xeroxDo you people have automake 1.4-p6 installed on ubuntu?  It's rather old, and I need to update it, also I seem unable to find a more recent version for ubuntu.  Can you help me?10:09
holycowall of a suddent i haveto manually select sound -> en/fr to get dialogue10:09
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holycowwtf?10:09
bjvits not that hard :P10:09
bjvjust press insert to type :P10:09
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bjvand ctr-c, then shift ':' wq to save/exit :P10:09
bjvthere, now he knows how to use vi10:09
Razor-Xewwww!10:09
Razor-Xyou taught vi?!10:09
HappyFoolxerox: i see a whole set of automake packages, including automake1.4 through automake1.910:09
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Razor-Xuse emacs10:09
xeroxHappyFool: where?10:10
Razor-Xthen Control+h, hit `t', and learn thenceforth10:10
HappyFoolxerox: 'apt-cache search automake'10:10
HappyFoolxerox: or look on packages.ubuntu.com10:10
xeroxHappyFool: are them for breezy or hoary?10:10
HappyFoolin this case prodigy can just use synaptic, so the point is moot10:10
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HappyFoolxerox: hoary, i hope! I don't have breezy repos enabled10:10
knowledge_hi10:10
knowledge_lol10:10
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xeroxHappyFool: do using ``multiverse'' in your sources.list brings error in the apt-get update process?10:11
HappyFoolxerox: not usually -- i haven't run it this morning10:11
xeroxUsing this: deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main universe multiverse restricted   I get some errors.10:12
xeroxThe errors go away if I remove ``multiverse''.10:13
xeroxDoes it make any sense?10:13
HappyFoolxerox: maybe try changing it.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com (this is in /etc/apt/sources.list)10:13
paxtry to change it with something else10:13
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HappyFooland try the update again10:13
The_Voxxerox: I just ran update and didn't get errors...and I have multiverse10:13
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tehmandidoes anyone know how I can change my display to kde instead of GNOME?10:13
LuNaTiK^GuYhow can i overrid refresh rates of my monitor...its doing 60Hz max...but i know it can go up to 80hz!!10:13
HappyFoolxerox: maybe the it mirror is having problems10:13
xeroxLet's try.10:13
The_Voxxerox: I use mx.<blah> as my mirror, tho10:14
HappyFooltehmandi: install kubuntu-desktop, and choose kde on login (it's under 'session', in think, at the bottom of the login screen)10:14
xerox99% [6 Packages bzip2 0]  [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.151)]  [Wabzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.10:14
The_VoxLuNaTiK^GuY: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:14
knowledge_wow...kde is not 1024X768 friendly10:14
xeroxErr http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages10:14
xerox  Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)10:14
bob2xerox: sounds like you're behind a broken proxy10:14
tehmandiHappyFool, how do I get kubuntu?10:14
LuNaTiK^GuYThe_Vox: i dont know where and what to edit!10:14
HappyFooltehmandi: install 'kubuntu-desktop'10:14
tehmandioh10:14
HappyFooltehmandi: it's an ubuntu package10:14
xeroxbob2: argh, damn.  This is indeed possible, I'm on a mobile connection.10:14
HappyFooltehmandi: you can install it with synaptic10:14
tehmandithat's the command?10:14
tehmandioh10:14
tehmandiok10:15
tehmandity10:15
xeroxbob2: is there a way to get the files from ftp or something?10:15
The_VoxLuNaTiK^GuY: it's actually pretty obvious...the line you want is Refresh or VertRefresh or something like that10:15
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bob2xerox: sure10:15
vinboyhi guys10:16
bob2xerox: same address, just s/htp/ftp/10:16
vinboyi'm newbie10:16
LuNaTiK^GuYThe_Vox: 10ks i;ll see wot i can do10:16
xeroxbob2: thank you very much, I'm trying.10:16
vinboyhow do i get the development environment software for ubuntu?10:16
Computer__Guruumm10:16
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Computer__Gurucan you be a little more specific?10:16
HappyFoolvinboy: install the build-essential package for C/C++ compilers10:16
xeroxGet:3 ftp://it.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiverse Packages [88.4kB] 10:17
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xerox-t, even10:17
bob2vinboy: with synaptic.  the basic toolchain is installed by getting the 'build-essential' package, but you'll need a lot more than that for compiling useful apps10:17
knowledge_lol10:17
vinboyHappyFool: are they included in the CD iso?10:17
HappyFoolvinboy: yip10:17
vinboyic10:17
vinboythanks guys10:17
setite finally my transgaming account works so i dont have to try the cvs.. .i pray that this is easier10:17
vinboyi wonder why Ubuntu has only 1 cd and fedora has 4 cds10:17
lirazdo the ubuntu reps really lack maintainers because my update is telling me to get firefox-1.0.210:17
knowledge_what resolution do most of you run?10:18
lirazI've just moved from fedora10:18
xeroxNow it sleeps on "Hit ftp://it.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages" \n "99% [Waiting for headers] "10:18
Computer__Gurui bought maya6 for a very small amount of money from an improperly placed ebay auction :D10:18
bob2vinboy: because ubuntu only puts some of it on cd10:18
bob2vinboy: the other 14 cds worth of software is available over the internet10:18
The_Voxvinboy: because ubuntu (and most debian-based distros) pretend that you have an internet connection and can just pull packages from the internet...messing around with CDs is a waste of time, IMNSHO10:18
vinboyyea.. maybe10:19
Computer__Gurui thought it was 81gb10:19
Computer__Guruthats a lot more than 14 cds10:19
alkuoviLuNaTiK^GuY: What monitor are you using?10:19
vinboyand... do u know how the Fedora has the Add/Remove Programs10:19
vinboydoes Ubuntu has it?10:19
xerox:|10:19
vinboyi think it is very handy10:19
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knowledge_I notice no speed difference between KDE and Gnome10:19
The_Voxliraz: they backport patches, not update versions. If you want 1.0.6 you need to use the backports repository10:19
knowledge_people say Gnome is faster10:20
OompaHey has anyone here ever used enlightenment on Ubuntu?10:20
The_Voxknowledge_: I use 1600x120010:20
tehmandihow can I enable the ability to login as root?10:20
rayn_does anyone know how to trasnfer files between windows and ubunut?10:20
Myrttihrm.10:20
knowledge_The_Vox, doesn't that hurt your eyes at all?10:20
bob2vinboy: of course, ubuntu has the same highly sophisticated package management system debian has10:20
rayn_help anyone?10:20
bob2Computer__Guru: 91GB or so for all 3 architectures and all 3 branches10:20
bob2rayn_: be more specific10:20
Myrttimy computer doesn't know how to fetch ip-configuration via dhcp anymore at startup10:20
The_Voxknowledge_: not really...I have a 19" monitor...tho I *do* use small fonts (9pt)10:20
bob2Oompa: lots of people have10:21
bob2tehmandi: why do you want to do that?10:21
setitefedora has several more gigs of stuff.. yet somehow it doesnt work as well or do as much for me10:21
tehmandibob2, to be able to access everything10:21
knowledge_The_Vox, wow, my laptop defaults at that res, and it just kills me, although I don't like 1024/768 too much, I'm slowly moving up (I used to use 8X6)10:21
lirazThe_Vox, backport?10:21
tehmandibob2, my account doesn't have permissions to do certain things10:21
xeroxGreat, using ftp everywhere worked like a charm.  Thanks again.10:21
bob2tehmandi: why do you want to do that?10:22
paxMS Fedora is bloated indeed10:22
bob2tehmandi: yes, I know.  use sudo for those things.10:22
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prodigyOkay, I just downloaded jdk-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin and my terminal is telling me it doesn't exist10:22
The_Voxrayn_: use pscp (search google for "putty"...pscp is made by the same guys) on windows or configure samba in your ubuntu box10:22
prodigywhy is this happening?10:22
bob2prodigy: then it's in another directory10:22
tehmandibob2, I mean...I can't change permissions and stuff10:22
Myrttisudo chmod10:22
The_Voxknowledge_: I'd use higher res, but the monitor can't give it.10:22
prodigyhow do I find where it is?10:22
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Myrttiupdatedb locate10:23
knowledge_The_Vox, what's the purpose of that? More desktop space?10:23
bob2tehmandi: yes, I know.  what specifically are you trying to do?10:23
knowledge_The_Vox, or just preference/10:23
knowledge_?*10:23
The_Voxliraz: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org if I remember right...that site will give you directions on how to use their repos10:23
bob2prodigy: if you downloaded it with firefox, it'd be in ~/Desktop by default10:23
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rayn_hey bob210:23
tehmandibob2, changing permissions so I can access my root partition and make changes.  It also sometimes tells me I can't mount, etc10:23
rayn_i wanna trasnfer files between partitions10:23
bob2tehmandi: so, use sudo for those things in particular10:24
The_Voxknowledge_: both. When I log in, my session opens 8 konsoles with multiple tabs, 2 emacs windows and 8 other programs...that's just the minimum for me to wake up to :) After a couple of days, I'm using 16 vdesks instead of the 8 I have configured for my session start lol!10:24
bob2rayn_: yo ucan't write to NTFS from linux, and windows (without extra software) can't write to any useful linux filesystem10:24
nmoorehas anyone else experienced this problem: somebody has logged in to my system remotely via ssh somehow, the only account is my own account and the password is very secure, i can't think what could have gone wrong10:24
bob2rayn_: do you have a fat32 partition to share things on?10:24
tehmandibob2, like how?10:25
knowledge_The_Vox, wow10:25
rayn_bob2: yeah I created a fat32 partition with /windows set as the mount point10:25
knowledge_ok this sucks...i don't like kde, I'm going back to Gnome...brb10:25
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ubuntu_k10:25
The_Voxrayn_: while in ubuntu you just need to mount the partition...usually "sudo mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /mnt" will do it...all your windows stuff will be under /mnt10:25
tehmandibob2, how can I use sudo when I am in my home folder when using things like konqueror?10:25
bob2tehmandi: sudo mount /mnt/whatever/10:25
The_Voxrayn_: you can't see the linux disks under windows, it's too braindead10:25
prodigyhow do I switch to the desktop directory in my terminal?10:25
bob2tehmandi: you don't do that sort of thing with konqueror10:25
bob2prodigy: cd ~/Desktop10:25
rayn_thats fine but linux can see a fat32 partittion10:25
rayn_?10:25
The_Voxrayn_: yes10:26
bob2rayn_: yes10:26
tehmandibob2, then how do I chang permissions?10:26
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bob2tehmandi: what EXACTLY are you trying to do?10:26
bob2tehmandi: in general, you don't need to play with /etc/ or /usr/ with konqueror10:26
Myrttiin the meantime, could anyone help me with the dhclient problem? My computer doesn't get IP addresses or anything else in startup anymore10:26
exhuwhy basic installation of 5.04 doesn't work as properly as desktop installation?10:26
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knowledge_Much better10:26
tehmandiI was trying to look in my root partition10:26
bob2xerox: for example?10:26
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bob2tehmandi: your root partition? as in /?10:27
bob2bah10:27
rayn_vox: can u dcc chat me10:27
bob2exhu: for example?10:27
tehmandibob2, yes10:27
prodigyI need help installing java for hoary10:27
bjvThe_Vox: ive got ext2 drivers for my windows 2000 box10:27
The_Voxrayn_: no10:27
bob2Myrtti: does dhclient work manually?10:27
prodigyI enabled multiverse packages10:27
Myrttibob2: yes10:27
prodigyand I downloaded make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin10:27
bob2Myrtti: paste /etc/network/interfaces to #flood10:27
bjvi believe i got them off sourceforge10:27
prodigyerr jdk etc10:27
prodigywhat do I do next?10:27
rayn_vox: i typed ur sudo command but it didnt work10:27
bob2prodigy: which step on the howto is confusing you?10:27
The_Voxbjv: I've heard of dead partitions with that crap, wouldn't use it for money. On the other hand, I haven't touched windows in 10 years, except inside vmware :)10:27
bob2tehmandi: and what isn't working for yu?10:27
lirazThe_Vox, so what is the difference between backport and update. I mean I do have a few 'updates' just not many10:27
prodigy$ fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin10:28
prodigythat one is confusing me10:28
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tehmandibob2, whenever I go into certain things or tr to write to the partition, it tells me I lack permission10:28
bob2prodigy: so, cd ~/Desktop, then run it10:28
bob2tehmandi: and what is an example of one of these "certain things"?10:28
The_Voxliraz: backport is a project that tries to keep ubuntu releases with current versions of some programs....the packages from that will show up as updates in kynaptic/synaptic10:29
tehmandibob2, like, putting a regular folder to hold stuff10:29
exhubob2, sudo apt-setup fails to run, it says non-ubuntu cdrom is inserted. while the same command on my ubuntu-desktop installation and with the same official CD works :(10:29
bob2tehmandi: where?10:29
prodigyno such file or directory10:29
bob2exhu: so don't use apt-setup, you don't need it10:29
tehmandibob2, just in /10:29
prodigyoh nm10:29
prodigywrong case10:29
bob2tehmandi: so, why are you trying to put things there?  as a user, you put things in your home directory.10:29
exhubut how can I install/uninstall packages in so convenient way when I don't have X ?!10:29
tehmandibob2, home as in...my ext3?10:30
bob2exhu: so, you didn't do a default install?10:30
bjvwell vox, i use em. and i trust them to copy from ro linux to my fat part, when under windows10:30
bjvi dont try to write to ext2/310:30
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bob2tehmandi: as in ~/ or the desktop in KDE10:30
tehmandibob2, so I never should need to touch the root partition?10:30
bob2tehmandi: indeed10:31
prodigywhen I move something to the trash, is it deleted automatically?10:31
lirazThe_Vox, that's kinda confusing... why not have it integrated into ubuntu updates officially?10:31
exhubob2, I selected basic/server installation10:31
bob2unless you're doing maintenance, which you won't be doing with konqueror10:31
tehmandibob2, oh I see. ok thanks then10:31
bob2exhu: well, there you go, that was silly10:31
prodigyor must I "empty the trash can"10:31
Myrttiyes10:31
The_Voxliraz: policy. Security holes are patched by porting the patches to the version that was in the release, not by upgrading to the latest version.10:31
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tehmandibob2, I am having another problem10:31
prodigyhow do I empty the trash?10:31
tehmandibob2, Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:31
tehmandiW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:31
Myrttithanks a bunch10:32
bob2tehmandi: a) don't paste errors in here10:32
bob2tehmandi: b) sudo apt-get update10:32
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HappyFoolprodigy: right click on trash, choose 'Empty Trash'10:32
prodigycould someone please tell me how to empty the trash?10:32
Myrtti^10:32
bob2prodigy: presumably right click on it10:32
The_Voxliraz: it's a matter of consistency. If you update stuff just because it's new, sooner or later (most times sooner) you'll break something that was working in previous versions...most people that use linux in production environments don't like that one bit.10:32
bob2prodigy: the shell has nothing to do with the trash, tho10:32
prodigyI cannot find the trash10:33
bob2then ignore it10:33
exhubob2, why silly, it's suggested to install either desktop (default) or basic. I need a server and not a 2GB of bloated software.10:33
thespiritoftalI have a *.tar.gz file how do i extract it?10:33
Myrttirm -rf ~/Trash*10:33
bob2exhu: a) haha bloated, b) 1.2GB10:33
Myrttino, not that way10:33
Myrtti.Trash10:33
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knowledge_just keep in mind that it's late and I'm slow10:33
lirazThe_Vox, right. So official is for patches and not true 'version updates'? if so do i have to disable updates repo?10:33
bob2exhu: anyway, don't use apt-setup, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list with a text editor, if you feel the need10:33
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tehmandibob2, it failed to fetch EVERY file10:34
prodigyrm -rf /~Trash will empty the trash?10:34
bob2tehmandi: perhaps your network connection is screwed then, or ca.archive10:34
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exhubob2, what is the nice console-based package installer?10:34
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bob2prodigy: dude, be a lot more careful10:34
HappyFoolaptitude10:34
bob2prodigy: running random commands from strangers that you're not even typing correctly is VERY dangerous10:34
bob2exhu: aptitude is excellent10:34
thespiritoftalhow do i extract a tar.gz archive?10:34
HappyFoolprodigy: the trash can is in the bottom right corner of the desktop10:34
tehmandibob2, how would I fix my network connection?10:34
bob2thespiritoftal: tar -zxf foo.tar.gz10:34
bob2tehmandi: is that the problem?10:35
prodigyoh thanks10:35
exhubob2, ok, thanks.10:35
tehmandibob2, I dont know.  All I know is that it can't fetch the files10:35
The_Voxliraz: uhm...no, the updates repo downloads patched packages, not new-version packages...so leave the repo working, it's where you get security stuff from.10:35
tehmandibob2m it says connection refused10:35
exhubob2, why is my HDD always busy? Automatic defragmentation or what?10:35
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bob2exhu: no idea, perhaps you're using a dodgy FS like reiser10:36
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bob2tehmandi: then try a different mirror10:36
HappyFoolexhu: maybe updatedb is running -- check with top10:36
exhubob2, ext3fs. System monitor says 0 bytes of swap is used and total of 152 megs of ram allocated...10:36
bob2awesome10:36
bob2maybe what HappyFool said10:37
HappyFoolupdatedb has a penchant for starting up when i'm watching dvd's -- most annoying10:37
tehmandibob2, where do I specify mirrors?10:37
prodigywhat if terminal tries to create a directory but permission is denied?10:37
bob2tehmandi: I don't know how you would do it10:37
bob2I'd just edit /etc/apt/sources.list10:37
knowledge_does anyone know how to make the menu and taskbars completely transparent? I had done it once, but when I restarted, it wasn't fully transparent...meaning that you could still see a background behind the "Applications" "Places" etc10:37
LuNaTiK^GuY!repositories doesnt work with Kubuntu.....10:38
ubotuLuNaTiK^GuY: No idea10:38
bob2LuNaTiK^GuY: dude, the bot is not a person, asking it questions is not going to work10:38
LuNaTiK^GuYi know10:38
bob2LuNaTiK^GuY: if you have a specific kubuntu question, #kubuntu10:38
HappyFoolLuNaTiK^GuY: yeah, good point10:38
LuNaTiK^GuY:(10:38
LuNaTiK^GuYjust that nobody answerred lol10:38
HappyFoolLuNaTiK^GuY: there's another page for repositories; stand by10:38
prodigywhat if terminal tries to create a directory but permission is denied?10:38
LuNaTiK^GuYHappyFool: 10ks tyt10:39
bob2prodigy: then the java instructions are wrong10:39
HappyFoolprodigy: then you are trying to create a directory somewhere you don't have permission to10:39
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prodigywhy don't I have permission?10:39
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bob2prodigy: because users don't screw around in /usr/, which is what the broken java software is trying to do10:39
exhuHappyFool, why top doesn't display all the tasks?10:40
lirazThe_Vox, so it will first try *update* firefox to 1.0.6 then check if their are any security patches available in 'updates'?10:40
HappyFoolexhu: i don't know; doesn't it?10:40
liraz*there10:40
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exhuApplications->System Tools->System Monitor displays twice more tasks!10:41
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exhuHappyFool, Applications->System Tools->System Monitor displays twice more tasks!10:41
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exhuHappyFool, probably bug with terminal emulator?10:41
HappyFoolexhu: maybe make you terminal window bigger, something like that10:41
HappyFoolexhu: or start 'top' after resizing the terminal10:42
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HappyFoolLuNaTiK^GuY: hmm, i can't find the page i was thinking of10:42
Ailleantsianis there anyone here that could possibly help me with what seems to be a conflict ?10:42
bob2Ailleantsian: it's way easier if you just ask your question10:42
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prodigyIm trying to install java and still encountering difficulties10:43
bob2yes, the instructions are broken10:43
HappyFoolprodigy: what have you done so far?10:43
bob2just install it to ~/java/ or something10:43
hhu33the VLC media player playing the cd, as well as the stream, but i cant hear nothing...10:43
exhuHappyFool, yes it's terminal window small. But is top capable of navigating through the list of taks?10:43
prodigyI downloaded jdk-1_5-0-linux-1586.bin10:43
bob2yes, we know10:43
Myrttithanks bob210:44
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knowledge_wow i'm tired...I'm off to sleep10:44
prodigyand I tried to go to desktop and put make-jpkg jdk etc.bin10:44
HappyFoolexhu: type '?' to see help -- sorry, i don't know top all that well. usually i'm only interested in the 'upper' tasks10:44
AilleantsianI am running ubuntu with KDE  my sound was working a treat then i installed ndiswrapper and my driver for my wlan and now  when i boot i get the messege that it was unable to start the device meaning my sound10:44
knowledge_later guys10:44
hhu33i forgot the comand to kill something then restart the player....10:44
hhu33anybody ?10:44
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bob2prodigy: "etc.bin"?10:44
HappyFoolprodigy: stand by, let me load the wiki page10:45
bob2hhu33: pkill esd, but that's a pretty shit solution10:45
prodigymake-jpkg jdk-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin10:45
hhu33yeah, thats the command10:45
HappyFoolprodigy: you need fakeroot for that10:45
prodigybut it kept telling me permission was denied when I tried to make a directory and it messed up or something10:45
itayI donwloaded BUM because I want to remove the time update from boot, but in "Startup and shutdown script"  the script "ntpupdate" can't be uncheck (the checkbox is grey). what can I do?10:45
prodigyI have fakeroot10:45
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LuNaTiK^GuYisnt all java stuff available from synaptic? its easy to install no?10:45
HappyFoolprodigy: the exact command is 'fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin'10:45
WeirdAlk never mind10:45
bob2itay: just leave it10:45
WeirdAlthxbai10:45
Myrttiwtf10:45
l4k3n70I Have 2 SATA and one IDE and I want to dual boot unbuntu and WINXP do i need SATA drivers to install unbuntu on the SATA drive that I have Windows on10:45
bob2itay: or rm it from /etc/rcS.d/10:45
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Myrttinow my localhost sends me messages stating "localhost"10:46
hhu33thanks bob2 , the command works10:46
hhu33:)10:46
prodigythat's what I did10:46
hhu33i can play the streams very clear now10:46
hhu33:)10:46
prodigyBut..it says permission denied when creating directories10:46
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hhu33by the way, what ESD mean ?10:47
itaybob2, I want to remove it because it takes 20 seconds every boot and fails10:47
HappyFoolprodigy: you typed that exact command?10:47
bob2itay: sounds like your network is broken10:47
bob2itay: anyway, rm will do the job10:47
prodigyyes10:47
prodigyI'm trying it again right now10:47
exhuHappyFool, how to setup console font and console (text-mode) display character mappings and kbd layout?10:47
holycowitay, just uninstall the ntupdate package10:48
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prodigymkdir: cannot creature directory <> Permission denied10:48
l4k3n70I Have 2 SATA and one IDE and I want to dual boot unbuntu and WINXP do i need SATA drivers to install unbuntu on the SATA drive that I have Windows on10:48
HappyFoolexhu: um. you can change the font with 'Edit -> Current Profile' -- i don't know about the other stuff10:48
HappyFoolexhu: oh, you don't have gnome10:48
Ailleantsiani need a reboot brb10:48
HappyFoolexhu: sorry, i'm not sure10:48
hhu33how to install a .bin file ?10:49
HappyFoolprodigy: hmm. that looks odd. What does 'pwd' say?10:49
Computer__Guruhhu33: chmod +x whatever.bin && ./whatever.bin10:49
thespiritoftalhow can i extract a *.tar.gz archive?when I do tar -zxf foo.tar.gz it gives error saying "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format" Can anyone help?10:49
hhu33ok10:50
HappyFoolthespiritoftal: run 'file foo.tar.gz' -- it will try to guess what kind of file it is10:50
Computer__Gurutry tar jxf10:50
HappyFoolthespiritoftal: maybe it's not gzipped, (i.e., plain tar), in which case, just tar xf foo.tar.gz will work10:50
Computer__Guruah10:50
hhu33tar: ./realplay: Cannot change ownership to uid 501, gid 501: Operation not perm10:51
exhuHappyFool, I meant when I am without X, in case of a server installation10:51
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HappyFoolexhu: yeah, i realized that. sorry, i'm not clued up on tweaking console fonts10:51
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prodigywhat is pwd?10:52
HappyFoolprint working directory10:52
prodigywhen i type that in it says home/prodigy/desktop10:52
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Ailleantsianno it didnt work :(10:52
hhu33It says the .bin file was installed successfull but I cant see it in the Applications menu10:52
hhu33:(\10:52
prodigyI still haven't successfully gotten past fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin10:53
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prodigywhen trying to install Java10:53
Ailleantsianthe error i am getting is : sound server informational messege: error while initializing the sound driver, device: default cant be opened for playback(no suh device10:53
Ailleantsianbut was working before i installed ndiswrapper :(10:54
Ailleantsianand got my device to run10:54
HappyFoolprodigy: can you maybe paste the whole error, with the command, to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?10:54
prodigydoes jdk-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin have to be somewhere other than the desktop?10:54
HappyFoolprodigy: it should work there10:55
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prodigymaybe it has something to do where it says full name[root] 10:55
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HappyFoolprodigy: please paste the full error up on the pastebin10:56
LuNaTiK^GuY!alsa10:56
ubotuLuNaTiK^GuY: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:56
LuNaTiK^GuYerrr ;) how cna i configure alsa?10:56
LuNaTiK^GuY:)10:56
prodigyhow do I do that?10:56
hhu33also when I install some programs from PMS, It will say that it was installed successfully but i cant see it in the Applications menu. Where did they all go ?10:56
HappyFoolprodigy: point your browser (firefox) to the url10:56
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HappyFoolprodigy: then, select the text in the terminal window with the mouse, right click and choose Copy. Then, right click on the text box in the browser, and choose paste10:57
bob2hhu33: they're installed but don't have menu items10:57
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chaitathi guys, how can i convert .mp3 into .wma10:57
bob2hhu33: add menu items if you care, or just run them from the run command box or the terminal10:57
bob2chaitat: why do you want to do that?10:58
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setitehow do i uninstall10:58
setitewith dpkg10:58
hhu33bob2, which directory they go installed ?10:58
HappyFoolAilleantsian: try checking in 'lsmod' to see if your sound driver has been loaded10:58
chaitatbob2, my gf have asked me to do that without any reason Y_Y10:58
prodigyokay I posted it10:58
hhu33all the programs from PMS10:58
bob2setite: dpkg --remove blah10:58
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chaitatbob2, she's running winxp10:58
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bob2hhu33: I don't know what "PMS" means10:58
hhu33is it in the /tmp ?10:58
HappyFoolAilleantsian: also, look in /var/log/dmesg for error messages relating to sound10:58
hhu33Package Management System10:59
hhu33sorry10:59
bob2hhu33: but they get installed to lots of places.  binaries usually end up in /usr/bin/10:59
chaitatbob2,  Pulse width Modulation Somehing :P10:59
HappyFoolchaitat: afaik windows media player can play mp3s (?)10:59
HappyFoolprodigy: loading it now10:59
chaitatHappyFool, yup with a codec10:59
setiteok how is there another way to uninstall10:59
chaitatHappyFool, any simple way to convert it to wma?  I only know how to convert wma to mp310:59
hhu33thanks a lot bob2  :)11:00
bob2setite: if you're having a problem, just tell us what it is11:00
AilleantsianHappyfool the sound was working before I got my wlan working11:00
setitei need to remove point2play because i didnt install it under the chroot11:00
hhu33is there a GUI program for configuring IP tables >?11:00
bob2setite: I assume something is throwing an error?11:00
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scenaQuestion. How do you modify /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ?02:19
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prodigywhat are torrents and how do I use them?02:20
scenaEverytiem I try, it won't let me.02:20
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bob2scena: echo 1 | sudo tee -o /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward02:20
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prodigychange name02:22
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scenabob: why is it i have to do it that way, erather than use a text editor?02:22
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bob2because it's not a text file02:23
LasseLprodigy, you should have a program installed called gnome bittorrent02:23
tom__Hey, I've just downloaded and installed MonoDevelop (an IDE for .net languages) and I am unable to find it on the Applications or using 'apropos', however I can run it if I type 'monodevelop' in the console, is there any way I can put a link on my Applications menu for it?02:23
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HappyFoolprodigy: http://www.bittorrent.com/ for more02:23
scenait says -o is an invalid option02:23
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bob2!+smeg02:23
ubotufrom memory, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.02:23
LasseLprodigy, a torrent is like a link -- feed the torrent to a bittorrent program and you will get the file02:23
Amaranthwe got + for public now?02:24
bob2scena: ah, indeed, my mistake. echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward02:24
Ocidtom__: which monodevelop gives you the path02:24
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prodigyhow do I feed the bittorent the link?02:24
scenapermission denied02:24
tom__Ocid: Hmm, I don't really understand what you mean02:24
LasseLprodigy, the torrent is a small file that you download02:24
bob2scena: make sure you typed exactly what I said02:24
Ocidtom__: just type 'which monodevelop' on the console02:25
prodigyI think I got it02:25
scenai did02:25
tom__Ocid: /usr/bin/monodevelop02:25
scenasudo echo 1 | tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward02:25
LasseLprodigy, here's a better program: http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/#azureus02:26
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tom__Ocid: How do I then make a link in my Applications menu to this? In fact, I'll check the wiki02:26
Ocidtom__: then use smeg02:26
Ocid!smeg02:26
ubotusmeg is probably a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.02:26
LasseLprodigy, i meant http://ubuntuguide.org/#azureus02:26
Amaranthack02:26
bob2scena: no, that's not what I said02:26
bob2scena: try again02:26
Amaranthmy computer beeps when you say smeg02:26
scenabob: can you retype it? im on a crappy telnet irc client & its scrolled by02:26
LasseLsmeg, smeg, smeg02:26
bob222:24:04 @         bob2 | scena: ah, indeed, my mistake. echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward02:26
scenaAh! ok, i see02:27
scenasudfo was iun the wrong spot02:27
scenamakes sense02:27
scenaone sec02:27
scenabob: that was it. worked like a champo02:27
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scenabob: thanks!!02:27
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yonilhow is the file defining mounting points called ?02:28
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bob2 /etc/fstab02:28
yonilthanks02:28
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tom__Thanks Ocid :)02:29
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MrMoany idea how I could figure out why on earth my awstats script in /etc/cron.d/ is not getting picked up by cron?02:32
MrMothis is really annoying. I hardly want to run it by hand myself.02:32
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LuNaTiK^GuYhow can i add a new theme to kopete?02:36
MrMookay looked like a switch in the /etc/init.d/cron script02:36
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vinboy:-o02:37
prodigyI have three files to install a program, control.tar.gz data.tar.gz and debian-binary, what do I do with them?02:37
Deterministsomething very strange is going on with this system. hda = ubuntu drive, hdb = windows xp drive. both bootable. hda has grub with a windows xp entry. when the windows XP drive is in (i have HD drawers) it boots into windows even if the windows drive is slave ignoring hda with grub entirely.02:37
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bob2prodigy: you complain to whoever gave them to you02:37
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Deterministwhen the windows drive isnt it , grub loads like a charm02:38
bob2please don't tell me you attacked a .deb with file-roller02:38
Determinists/it/in02:38
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Deterministhelp please02:38
SeveasDeterminist, look at your bios....02:38
bob2please don't do that02:38
Seveasthe boot ordere is determined in there02:38
bob2you asked for help, now wait02:38
Deterministbob2, ok02:39
DeterministSeveas, my bios has hd as first boot device and Cdrom as 2nd. it shouldnt boot from the slave first then master ... that just doesnt make sense02:39
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Seveasprodigy, ditch these files and use the .deb file that you pulled them from02:39
prodigyhow do I use a .deb file?  I'm a newb02:40
SeveasDeterminist, having two drives bootable already sounds odd to me...02:40
Seveasprodigy, dpkg -i filename.deb02:40
Ocidprodigy: dpkg -i debfilehere02:40
bob2prodigy: what are you trying to do now?02:40
Seveaswhere did you get the debfile from?02:40
DeterministSeveas, did that to allow grub to boot into winxp02:40
Seveasprodigy, you almost never have to touch .deb files yourself..02:40
Deterministis there some way to remove the boot record from the winxp drive?02:41
Seveasprodigy, software usually is installed from a repository with the package manager02:42
eruindoes anyone in here know what's required for nm-vpn-properties to not complain about missing vpn software?02:42
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SeveasDeterminist, cfdisk can do that for you, but be careful with it02:42
Deterministcfdisk?02:42
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nukywhat's the command to find out if something is installed on my system? is it grep something?02:43
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Seveasnuky, dpkg -l02:43
Nameeaterdpkg -l packagename02:43
SeveasDeterminist, that's a program for managing partitions :)02:43
Seveassudo cfdisk (in a terminal)02:43
Mobiusany suggestions for addressbook packages?02:43
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nukyoh.. oh, egrep is searching for files.. thanks02:43
razerslutcan someone help me with installing a different login for gnome?02:44
carolHi all, I need some help with connecting to the internet with a 56k analog modem in Hoary. Basically, how do I do it?02:44
Seveasrazerslut, be a bit more specific. Do you mean a login manager theme or a new user?02:44
Nameeatercarol: is it an internal?02:44
razerslutseveas: yes, login manager theme02:45
razersluti know there is a dialouge to speed this along but i cannot find it now02:45
carolYes, it is a Conexant HSF and appears in the Device Manage list02:45
bob2that would make it a winmodem, which will be annoying to get working02:45
Nameeateryou require the linuxant drivers which I think unfortunately cost money to get anything better than 14.4k02:46
carolIt has worked with other Debian distros, so I don't know if it is just me or if it lack of a driver02:46
LinuxJonesrazerslut, you want to install a new gnome login screen ?02:46
nukyis there a repository that has ctags install?02:46
nukyoh it's called exuberant-ctags02:46
kestascan windows use linux modems?02:46
nukysorry guys02:46
carolNameeater: how do I know if the driver is loaded?02:46
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HappyFoolkestas: that sounds a bit backwards. Do you perhaps mean can linux use winmodems ?02:47
LinuxJonescarol, for a list of loaded modules do lsmod02:47
razerslutlinuxjones: yes.02:47
Nameeatercarol: I'm not sure sorry :) its doubtful it would come with it preloaded02:47
razerslutcarol: hi02:47
kestasnope I know linux cant use winmodems, but I dont know if windows can use linmodems or not02:47
prodigywhat do I do after I unpack a .deb and it's says setting up?02:47
kestas(cant use winmodems without hassle I mean)02:48
prodigyapp-get update?02:48
Mortiprodigy: Wait?02:48
Seveasrazerslut, art.gnome.org/faw.php02:48
HappyFoolkestas: i don't think there is such a thing as a "linmodem" that is not really a winmodem02:48
Seveasrazerslut, art.gnome.org/faq.php02:48
Nameeaterkestas: a linmodem is just a modem that works in linux, as far as I'm away there is no such thing a strickly linux modem02:48
HappyFoolkestas: if you know of one, i'd be curious to know what is is02:48
Seveasprodigy, nothing :)02:48
Arafangionkestas: A linmodem that windows can't use will never really exist, as presumeably the linmodem driver is made free.02:48
Arafangionkestas: And thus it can be reverse engineered.02:48
prodigyhow do I run the program?02:49
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Seveasdepends on what it is02:49
kestasokay thanks02:49
LinuxJonesrazerslut, sudo gdmsetup then go to Graphical Greeter then Install new theme02:49
razerslutyeah, that's what i did. remember now. =D02:49
LinuxJonesrazerslut, of course you will have to have a new theme already downloaded02:50
carolNameeater: I don't see the modem when doing lsmod; however, it just might be that the module isn't loaded in memory.02:50
LinuxJones:)02:50
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liablecarol: how did you get it working in debian?02:51
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carolNameeater: When I go to the Network configuration utility there is a device listed for the modem02:51
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Nameeaterwhats stopping it from working?02:51
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leninhi, anyone connected from spain to give me some help please ???02:52
carolNameeater: The interface is ppp0 and in properties the device is /dev/modem; however, there is no /dev/modem file in /dev02:52
LinuxJonescarol, can you configure the modem under the device properties ?02:52
carolNameeater: This modem worked with Xandros Debian02:52
DeterministSeveas, if i use cfdisk to alter the boot flag on hdb1 , could that corrupt the data on it?02:52
prodigyroot@Ubuntu:/home/prodigy # dpkg -i  cedega_4.4-1_i386.deb02:53
prodigy(Reading database ... 59845 files and directories currently installed.)02:53
prodigyPreparing to replace cedega 4.4-1 (using cedega_4.4-1_i386.deb) ...02:53
prodigyUnpacking replacement cedega ...02:53
prodigySetting up cedega (4.4-1) ...02:53
prodigyhow do I use cedega now?02:53
lsuactiafnerDeterminist : might.02:53
konradprodigy: from command line: cedege game.exe02:53
PIANISTprodigy: cedega <path to exe file>02:53
carolHi LinuxJones: I can access the pages and put the parameters in; however, auto detect does not work, probably because there is no /dev/modem file, but I don't know how to create one.02:53
liablecarol: dunno, try installing slmodem package.02:54
konrador use point2play application (if you have LEGAL version of cedega, you have this too)02:54
LinuxJonescarol, what kind of modem is it ?02:54
lsuactiafnerprodigy : cedega winnt32.exe02:54
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leninhi, anyone connected from spain to give me some help please ???02:54
bob2trying to run winnt32.exe sounds like a bad idea02:54
bob2lenin: #ubuntu-es02:54
carolLinuxJones: It is a conexant HSF02:54
lsuactiafnerconexant sucks.02:55
carolliable: Thanks for the suggestion. What is slmodem package?02:55
konradcarol: uhh, you have a big problem02:55
lsuactiafnerwhenever i see something made by emi dont use it..02:55
konradcarol: connexant linux drivers are not free02:55
lsuactiafnerslmodem is for lucent i think...02:55
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annewhat is the best program to use for downloading music02:56
konradcarol: if you still have Xandros, try to copy DEB from them02:56
HappyFoolslmodem is for smartlink02:56
konradanne: wget :)02:56
konradanne: use what you like02:56
annedo i find that i synaptic02:56
carolkonrad: how do I know which is the right DEB file?02:56
lsuactiafnercarol : best thing you can do is to buy a new lucent internal modem for almost the same price as a movie ticket02:56
lsuactiafnerthey work in linux02:56
konradanne: if you want torrent, use torrent, emule - use aMule or xMule02:56
lsuactiafnerbut an externalmodem is btter02:56
lsuactiafnerwget rocks02:57
ColonelKerneli cant even remember the last time I used a modem02:57
HappyFoolcarol: you can try going here and see what scanModem suggests: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/02:57
konradcarol: I don't know, try to find cnx* package02:57
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carollsuactiafner: Thanks and that is a good option. Is this something I can get locally at CompUSA or similar place?02:57
LinuxJonescarol, this might be of some use to help get you up and running >> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-9323.html02:57
annekonrad: i am used to emule in windows, but how can i download that into ubuntu02:57
konradapt-get install amule02:58
konrador use synaptic02:58
annethank you02:58
razersluthi02:58
podgeAnyone here running nforce2?02:58
konradcarol: if you are using kernel 2.4 (probalby U R using 2.6 ;/) I can send you free drivers02:58
konradanne: no problem02:59
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konradcarol: but for linux 2.6 U have to pay :/ or try copy it from Xandros, little chance to work :(02:59
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konradcarol: best way is to buy used external modem - they are not expencieve now and works better03:00
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carolkonrad: I am using Hoary, which I think is 2.6.03:04
Nameeatercarol have you tried using the other ttyS1 etc instead of /dev/modem?03:04
carolLinuxJones: That is a great link! It will take some to read it in depth.03:04
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konradcarol: yes :( every moder distro is using 2.6, so you can;t use free (as in beer) drivers03:05
carolNameeater: Good question. Yeah, I tried that.03:05
LinuxJonescarol, have fun :)03:05
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razersluthow can i change my splash screen?03:06
konradNameeater: if he is using Connexant chipset based modem, he won't get it work without expensieve drivers03:06
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Nameeaterkonrad: well some how s/he(?) got it working before, so it is worth looking into...03:07
scorpio2002hi there!03:07
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scorpio2002I need help with vsftpd. I can't get it to work anymore03:07
konradNameeater: s/he had Xandros, it provides connexant drivers03:07
scorpio2002if you can, take a look at the last post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=268203#post26820303:07
bob2scorpio2002: "anymore"?03:08
konradNameeater: I had suh modem (HSF based) - without that drivers it is imposible to get it work03:08
Nameeaterkonrad: ah :)03:08
carolKonrad: Nameeater: LinuxJones: I will probably will get a new modem, but it will have to be a pcmcia modem. Any suggestion as to which is good?03:08
scorpio2002bob2, yes...03:08
scorpio2002I installed it and it was working03:08
LinuxJonesrazerslut, in gdmsetup make sure you have graphical greeter selected for "Local" logins. Download a new theme and install in the Graphical Greeter section of gdmsetup. Then select the theme once installed and that should be it.03:08
scorpio2002I mean03:08
scorpio2002I could get it to run03:08
bob2scorpio2002: then what did you change that stopped it working?03:08
scorpio2002now I can't03:08
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scorpio2002bob2, the conf file03:09
scorpio2002but I have even restored back the old one03:09
bob2so change it back03:09
razerslutlinuxjones: that works for logins and splash screens?03:09
scorpio2002bob2, already done03:09
scorpio2002I even uninstalled and reinstalled it via apt-get :|03:09
LinuxJonescarol, I don't have any pcmcia devices :(03:09
konradcarol: don't know - I haven't used modems for very long time, especially pcmcia (on fact, I'v never used pcmcia card :p)03:09
scorpio2002don't knwo what the hell is going on :P03:09
razerslutme either03:10
razerslutin fact03:10
razerslutAAGH03:10
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razerslutTHE PANIO03:10
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LinuxJonesrazerslut, sorry I mis-understood :D03:10
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konradcarol: try google: pcmcia modem linux :)03:11
nukyhi, has anyone download the JavaBrowser plugin for vim and got it working?03:12
razerslutcan you explain the splash screen process? cuz i know it is different03:12
konradcarol: http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ftp/SUPPORTED.CARDS03:12
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carolkonrad: Nameeater: LinuxJones: Thanks for all the help and advice.03:12
razerslutthat must really suck to have a piece of hardware that just wont work with your os03:12
razerslutDAMN THE MAN.03:12
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aykhi, when the broken firefox will be withdrawn from the official deposit?03:14
LinuxJonescarol, GL :)03:14
konradwha tis wrong with Firefox?03:14
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HappyFoolkonrad: seems to break with extensions03:15
razerslutcan someone explain how to change my splash screens?03:15
HappyFoolkonrad: there's a longish thread on ubuntuforums about it03:15
aykayk: it is a very disturbing problem, all the newbies are lost and the reputation of ubuntu in suffered......03:15
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konradHappyFool: OK - but for me it works :)03:16
NESticlewow this channel is massive.03:16
bob2razerslut: be more specific03:16
highvoltagerazerslut: which ones?03:16
bob2ayk: when it's fixed03:16
bob2razerslut: do you mean the gnome ones?03:16
highvoltagerazerslut: gdm themes are in /usr/share/gdm/themes03:16
chowennehey03:17
highvoltagevarious other splash screens are in /usr/share/pixmaps03:17
razerslutyes gdm splash screens03:17
razerslutnot the login screens. i've downloaded some from gnomelook.org and want to install them03:17
highvoltagegdm uses xml-like theming.03:18
chowenneis there anybody who talks netherlands03:18
razerslutdo i need to edit a config file?03:18
highvoltage/usr/share/pixmaps/splash03:18
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highvoltagejust backup the old one and replace with a new one.03:18
HappyFoolchowenne: try joining #ubuntu-nl03:18
LinuxJoneschowenne, you can join #ubuntu-nl03:18
Seveaschowenne, ja03:18
chowenneok fijn03:19
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razersluthighvoltage: thank you03:20
razerslutwhat is #ubuntu-nl?03:20
chowenneseveas:kan jij me uitleggen hoe dit hie werkt03:20
razerslutah03:20
razersluti see.03:20
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djprazerslut: applications/configuration editor/apps/gnome-session/options03:21
razersluteven better03:21
razerslutthank you03:21
djprazorslut: then just edit the location of splash_image03:21
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chowennecan anone tel me what the meening is from this chatroom03:23
HappyFoolchowenne: this chat room is for ubuntu linux03:24
HappyFoolchowenne: www.ubuntulinux.org03:24
LinuxJoneschowenne, it's a help channel03:24
chowenneok thanks03:24
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razerslutTROYBM IS OFFENDING ME03:27
chowenneis there a posibility for to download  a shockwave plugin at ubuntu?03:27
phixion_i keep getting random crashed in firefox when clicking on some links... any ideas?03:28
phixion_crashes*03:28
HappyFoolchowenne: only flash, not shockware, i think03:28
HappyFoolphixion: have you updated firefox recently?03:28
hondjeno shockwave03:28
hondjemacromedia hates us :(03:28
HappyFoolphixion: see /topic -- latest firefox is broken, probably due to extensions03:28
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chowenneok i dont know much about ubuntu, i just have it03:29
phixion_I did a fresh install yesterday03:29
phixion_and did an upgrade... i have 1.0.2 with all latest security patches03:29
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joolzHappyFool: any sign of a solution?03:29
HappyFooljoolz: i don't know -- i'm just a user ;)03:30
knudsen_Hello. I am running Ubuntu on my laptop and on my server. If I login to my server (using ssh -X), I get error messages like "unable to open display" if I try to start programs like gftp-gtk. What can be wrong?03:30
joolzHappyFool: so am i, but i'm mostly on #ubuntu-nl, not here03:31
HappyFooljoolz: from what i've heard here, i believe even the mozilla distributed 1.0.6 has problems03:31
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joolzomg03:31
hondjeknudsen_: is X running on the server?03:31
phixion_HappyFool, im using an updated 1.0.2.. surely that shouldn't crash?03:31
joolzphixion_: you bet it will03:31
phixion_gah03:31
joolzon hoary, too03:31
hondjeAPI changed or something03:31
joolzyes03:31
HappyFoolphixion: the updates include security fixes up to 1.0.603:31
phixion_whys it taking so long to sort it03:32
HappyFoolphixion: so, unfortunately, it will break03:32
joolzphixion_: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1285403:32
HappyFoolphixion: it's not hard to downgrade03:32
knudsen_hondje: hmmm ... how do I check that?03:32
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HappyFoolphixion: oh, maybe it is03:32
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hondjeknudsen_: hrm, I suppose ps aux | grep X11 would show it03:32
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knudsen_hondje: it's not running. I'll see if I can start it in some way.03:33
hondjeknudsen_: okay, if you get stuck I'm sure I or someone could help you get it going :)03:33
knudsen_hondje: I would appreciate any help at this step so I am not screwing anything up :-) I guess that apt-get install the_right_package will do the trick.03:34
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hondjeknudsen_: depends on what your server is running03:34
knudsen_hondje: Just the standard ubuntu server installation.03:35
hondjeknudsen_: if it's debian or ubuntu, apt-get will do all the work for you, and since you have ubuntu running on your laptop it wont' take much work03:35
hondjeoh, okay03:35
hondjesudo apt-get install xserver-xorg 'should' do the trick03:35
annehow do i get my printer to work in ubuntu, it is  a brother dcp-4020c03:35
hondjeI haven't tried to install JUST X without the rest in ubuntu03:36
scorpio2002is there an expert about vsftpd? :D03:36
sorush20guys I'm having problems ejecting a CD03:36
bob2that's an annoying way to ask a question, fwiw03:36
scorpio2002I need help. can't get the anonymous user to upload file03:36
sorush20its a CD rw .. can anyone help please03:36
bob2sorush20: ask on the ubuntu-user mailing list03:36
knudsen_hondje: Thanks, I'll try that.03:36
sorush20where is that?03:36
sorush20bob2 where is that03:36
knudsen_anne: try system --> administration --> printing03:36
bob2bah03:36
bob2scorpio2002: ask on the ubuntu-user list03:37
bob2sorush20: explain what your problem is03:37
scorpio2002bob2, I managed to get vsftp to work again, but I can't get the anonymous user to upload files :| I checked the conf file and i enabled "anon-upload"03:37
HappyFoolsorush20: is the CD mounted?03:37
sorush20no..03:37
scorpio2002bob2,ok, thank you :D03:37
sorush20its not mounting03:37
hondjewhat kind of CD is it03:37
sorush20CRW03:37
hondjeif it's an audio cd, you don't want to mount it03:38
sorush20data03:38
hondjewait, it's not mounted but you can't eject it?03:38
sorush20yes...03:38
hondje'mount' doesn't show it?03:38
sorush20no..03:39
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chowenneis there anyone who has a sugestion for fine movieplayer for ubuntu03:39
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sorush20when I try to mount it doesn't work03:39
hondjewhat error does it give you03:39
sorush20nothing.. at all..03:39
hondjethen how do you know it doesn't work?03:39
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sorush20good media plyer for ubuntu is xine... or mmx..03:40
HappyFooli'm watching 'the two towers' with xine right now. works for me.03:40
chowenneok i will have a look03:40
joolzmplayer03:40
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sorush20well the CD is in there and its not coming out even when I press eject..03:40
joolzbut i prefer it to the others03:40
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joolz"feels" better03:40
phixion_chowenne try vlc too, apt-get install vlc03:41
dami found music player that works fines03:41
hondjesorush20: what does fuser /media/cdrom0 say? (or cdrom1)03:41
HappyFoolsorush20: if mount returns no message, then it probably worked03:41
chowenneok03:41
trevisorush20...open a terminal... umount <cdrom>03:42
sorush20nothing..03:42
razersluthttp://www.chrisruzin.net/images/uploads/dancing_boy.gif03:42
HappyFoolon the command-line, no message usually means success ;)03:42
sorush20fuser /media/cdrom0 returns no command reply03:42
hondjehe said it wasn't shown after running mount03:43
bastiomg fucking radeon drivers are worthless03:43
sorush20I just stuck a paper clip in the cdrom hole to manual relase it...03:43
hondjethat's one way to do it03:43
chowennephixion:its maby a stupit question but do i have to download vlc or what?03:43
annei cannot find my printer in ubuntu system, what do i do03:44
trevichowene...download xine first03:44
phixion_yes chowenne03:44
HappyFoolanne: maybe look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters03:44
phixion_type: sudo apt-get install vlc03:44
andaresHi.03:45
sorush20is there a command that I can blank the CDRW... you see when I use CDDVD creator there is no such option , however there is an option in the CD Baker program..03:45
andaresWhat does /etc/apt/preferences do?03:45
sorush20I've tried both but they don't work could someone give me the command line for the blanking CD03:46
phixion_sudo umount /dev/cdrom03:46
phixion_cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom blank=fast03:46
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HappyFoolandares: you can put 'Pinning' setup there, for one. Download the apt-howto and read it for more03:46
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andaresHappyFool, I'm just following a tutorial!03:46
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andaresIt says I can't install a package because it doesn't have version info.03:46
mpmcWhats that about Firefox?03:46
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andaresI think that's what is in /etc/apt/preferences.03:47
mpmcjoin #php03:47
hondjenever!03:47
mpmcoops03:47
hondje:003:47
HappyFoolandares: o03:47
bastianyone that is very pro and could help me install/configure radeon drivers by connecting to me via vnc?03:47
HappyFoolhmm03:47
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joolzmpmc: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1285403:47
sorush20I get the message that Unable to mount media there is probebly no media in the drive.. ? can anyone help...03:47
HappyFoolandares: i'm not following03:47
hondje!tell basti about ati03:47
andaresAh.03:47
andaresAlso, Forcing version is CRASHING SYNAPTIC! :(03:48
hondjesorush20: what's on that cd right now03:48
andareshttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2021603:48
andaresI'm trying to complete this.03:48
sorush20data files.. no music..03:48
hondjehow are you trying to mount it?03:48
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heikehi03:48
sorush20I now get the message that the CD is in an unknown format and can not be mounted...03:48
andaresHappyFool, why is this not working? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2021603:49
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HappyFoolandares: it's loading.03:49
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heikehallo peter pinguin hier03:49
sorush20Just a few min.. ago the CD was mounted and I could see the data on the CD and also read from it.. however when I tried to blank the CD using the GUI CD Baker it seemed to crash and I had to use the Paper clip to manually eject..03:49
heikehallo peter pinguin hier03:50
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hondjesorush20: how are you trying to mount it? What are doing exactly?03:50
just_inhi - mplayer, xmms and totem are having problems playing sound - totem will show video, mplayer and xmms hang03:50
hondjeusinga  gui, using mount in a terminal...?03:50
chowenneeindelijk iemand die nederlands spreekt een vraag je ik kan ik mijn paketten bij syppakketbeheer heb opgehaals niet meer vinden03:51
just_inbut my system sounds work fine03:51
andaresHappyFool, wow... On a 56k?03:51
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chowennekan iemand mij daar mee helpen03:51
hondjechowenne: #ubuntu-nl03:51
sorush20hondje I go to My COmputer and right click on the drive and select mount.. however this is the reply the I get at the moment...03:51
sorush20mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,03:51
sorush20       missing codepage or other error03:51
sorush20       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try03:51
sorush20       dmesg | tail  or so03:51
HappyFoolandares: erk. this is taking long03:51
HappyFoolandares: yip03:51
mpmcDamm... Partition Magic!03:51
NuuBi followed the lamp for hoary wiki install verbatim - i found apache is running suexec, yet apache says they dont put it in the default install and it is not for beginners - so the ubuntu install has it in the default config - why?03:51
chowenneok03:51
HappyFoolchowenne: /join #ubuntu-nl -- if Seveas is there, he'll be able to help03:52
hondjesorush20: open a terminal and type in dmesg | tail and paste it in #flood03:52
mpmcI resized the partition with Partition Magic which messed up UB' So I had to reinstall.. :@03:52
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xPhi03:53
razersluthi03:53
HavoKhi03:53
xPpeter pinguin03:53
xPpeter pinguin03:53
xPpeter pinguin03:53
xPpeter pinguin03:53
razerslutok03:53
razerslutit is penguin though03:53
razerslutk?03:53
NuuBi know ubuntu is not exclusively for beginners, but it is the best for beginners i have ever found. i was under the impression that ubuntu's developers made it to some extent with beginners in mind03:53
xPi search tehm03:53
xPpeter pinguin03:54
sorush20how do I use the flood03:54
sorush20#flood03:54
HappyFoolsorush20: /join #flood03:54
HappyFoolthen just paste whatever there03:54
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NuuBso i am puzzled by suexec being there since it is considered advanced by the apache group03:54
HappyFoolandares: still loading...03:54
HappyFoolandares: are you running warty ?03:55
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just_inI'm running hoary and I'm having a sound problem with totem, mplayer and xmms - totem plays video but no sound, while xmms and mplayer hang - can anyone point me in the right direction as to a fix?03:55
HappyFoolNuuB: just having apache is relatively advanced for most desktop users ;)03:55
phixionjust_in have you dloaded all the codecs?03:55
bob2xP: please don't do that again03:55
HappyFooljust_in: you need to tell xmms to use the esd output; i think it's under preferences/setup, somewhere like that03:56
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sorush20yes.. its in the flood..03:56
_andreas<a href="http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21232">High frequency noise using kernel 2.6.10</a>  Can anyone help? When ACPI=OFF then the noise is gone, if ACPI=ON then acpi functions work, but the noise drives you crazy.03:56
xPhalllllllooooooooo peter pinguin hier sash03:56
sorush20I've put the result of dmesg|tail03:56
hondjesorush20: I'd guess the CD is a coaster03:56
HappyFooljust_in: i think something similar applies to mplayer -- maybe -ao esd, something like that03:56
NuuBif i had to guess, i would say it has to do with no root, and default user getting permissions and using sudo03:56
just_inHappyFool: thanks03:57
sorush20what do you mean a coaster..03:57
sorush20did you guys see the flood.03:57
hondjethat it's bad03:57
hondjeThat's just my guess though, that sorta stuff isn't in my area of expertise03:57
hondjepretty much nothing is, now that I think about it03:57
HappyFoolsorush20: rendered useless as a CD, but now usable as a coffee-cup coaster03:57
nukyhow do i convert a text file in DOS format to UNIX format?03:57
hondjenuky: dos2unix <file> i believe03:58
sorush20linux rendered it useless... that's all I know..03:58
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leninhi, i can't automatise my dsl connection at startup. i need to execute two commands (eaglectrl -d and startadsl). any help please?03:58
nukynah command not found..03:58
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NuuBwell yes, advanced for most desktop users, but most desktop users stick with windows - anyone trying to get into unix/linux is likely more advanced than the average desktop user, yet can still be not advanced enough to just be up and running with linux and certain daemons at an advanced administrative level03:59
HappyFoolnuky, hondje: dos2unix is what i used on fedora, but i can't find it with apt-cache search03:59
sorush20right guys I'm about to use another cd here goes..03:59
hondjelenin: add them to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh maybe03:59
NuuBerr, in reply to HappyFool03:59
knudsen__hondje: Sorry, but I lost connection. Did you answer my question about how to start the x-server? If not, then nevermind. Thanks anyway!03:59
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chowennebye bye03:59
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hondjedag dag04:00
SG1ok, So I'm new to Ubuntu... and I'm wondering what the Ubuntu's name is for what Debian's testing and unstable are..04:00
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hondjeSG1: different system04:00
SG1hondje: could you explain04:00
xPhalllllllooooooooo peter pinguin hier sash04:00
hondjeeach release is stable for 18 months, IIRC, and there's one unstable release (right now breezy)04:00
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HappyFoolandares: page has loaded. I see it's for warty, though04:01
hondjeso in a couple more, as I understand it, there will be 3 stable releases04:01
sorush20Right this cRW is not mounted and I'm going to click on the make CD blank on the Gnome Baker04:01
NuuBwhy does ubuntu's default install of apache include suexec?04:01
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sorush20is anyone using this program.. and should I know anything before I do this..04:01
phixionwhy not mount it first?04:01
HrdwrBoBwell.. I imagine it would blank the CD :)04:01
HrdwrBoBphixion: you can't blank it when it's mounted04:02
xPl04:02
phixionah k04:02
HrdwrBoBand I assume he knows what's on the CD04:02
sorush20Yes it has been mounted already..04:02
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bodyc0unthallo04:02
SG1hondje: so.. if I wanted the lastest and greatest to mess around (I ran debian unstable on this previously....) ... I would use breezy?04:02
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sorush20why can you blank it when its mounted...04:02
sorush20and what should I do..04:02
hondjeSG1: Yes, but like Sid its undergoing major borkage thanks to switching to gcc404:03
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hondjeI gather it runs decent enough for unstable, but definately not for newbies04:03
annei have found a printer driver for my printer that works in windows, but its for debian version, can i use that in ubuntu04:04
annesorry it works in linux i ment,04:04
Bodycounthallo peter pinguin04:04
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_ac_chan_hello.. anybody here use pptpconfig04:04
SG1hondje: yeah, I know ;) I have most machines on debian testing04:05
SG1hondje: this is my breakable machine04:05
Bodycounthallo peter pinguin biste hier04:05
_andreashttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21232 High frequency noise using kernel 2.6.10 - Can anyone help? When ACPI=OFF then the noise is gone, if ACPI=ON then acpi functions work, but the noise drives you crazy.04:05
hondjethen get your break on ;-)04:05
_andreasplease..;)04:05
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SG1hondje: so there's no testing equivilent?04:05
sorush20do I have to mount a CD when I want to burn and iso image to it.. or not..04:05
sorush20can anyone help please..04:05
hondjeSG1: Nope, either released or unreleased, really04:06
HappyFoolsorush20: no, you mount a CD when you want to browse files on it, more or less04:06
hondjeKinda weird, but it makes sense with a 6 month release cycle04:06
HappyFoolsorush20: if you want to blank it, or write an ISO image to it, the CD should not be mounted04:06
HappyFoolanne: what printer model did you have again?04:07
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SG1hondje: ok thanks.04:07
hondjeno problem, SG104:07
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sorush20guys the problem is happening agian..04:08
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bluefoxicyFirefox 1.5 will rule.04:09
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sorush20I cant eject the CD.. and I get this message it in the flood04:09
thr1cenot better than konq :)04:09
hondjefuser /media/cdrom004:10
sorush20what does fuser mean04:10
thr1ceit'll find what's using it04:11
HappyFooltry maybe fuser /media/hdc too04:11
konradand lsof /dev/hdc :)04:11
sorush20this is what I get; /media/cdrom0:       29749c04:11
HappyFooli'm playing a DVD and fuser /media/cdrom0 shows nothing, but /dev/hdc does04:11
HappyFoolerr04:11
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sorush20can anyone help please..04:12
HappyFooland what does 'ps 1374' say?04:12
HappyFoolag04:12
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HappyFool'ps 29749'04:12
Bodycounthallo peter pinguin biste hier04:12
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blackgeckocan anyone tell why theresnt /lib/modules/'uname -r'/include ??04:13
hondjethe letter implies it's a shell04:13
bob2blackgecko: because you didn't install linux-headers-`uname -r`04:13
Bodycounthallo peter pinguin biste hier04:14
blackgeckobob2: thanks am new to ubuntu?04:14
bluefoxicyoh man, hitting 'back' loads the prior page instantly04:14
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blackgeckobob2: are there other repos that i should add to my sources.list ???04:15
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bob2blackgecko: no04:16
sorush20ubuntu is shit04:17
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bob2insightful04:17
hondjewow04:18
hondjethat kid just proved there IS a market for that pointless nero-linux thing04:18
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bluefoxicyNot only is Ubuntu shit04:21
bluefoxicybut it's THE shit04:21
catolhAny way to get my Ubuntu installation in english, and make it use a norwegian keyset?04:21
blackgeckowhy do you say that ??04:21
bluefoxicyNone of that immitation shit that you get from french people04:21
catolhBecause the norwegian translation in ubuntu is a mix of english, danish, swedish and norwegian.. :o04:21
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catolhAnd when i type the norwegian characters in x-chat.. i see them.. but other's see them as gibberish..04:22
bob2bluefoxicy: please read the Code of Conduct04:22
_andreasubuntu is BEST for a newbie as I am man.04:22
blackgeckowell you can start a real translation and  give the comuniti something back not just complain04:22
_andreascan do every thing.04:22
_andreasincl vmware, cxoffice for my outlook etc04:23
_andreaswith no complaints.04:23
_andreasubuntu = no shit04:23
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catolhblackgecko, well i could do that.. if i knew how..04:23
HappyFoolwho was looking for dos2unix earlier? it's in the sysutils package04:23
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flodineanyone running E17 that can help me04:24
HappyFoolcatolh: i think you can choose a different keyboard layout under System -> preferences -> keyboard preferences04:24
tobias_Anyone got a working keyboard in X in breezy?04:24
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HappyFoolcatolh: i see two norwegian keyboard layouts there04:24
catolhHappyFool, ok, ill try that04:24
kestastobias_: nope everyone in breezy didnt use keyboards in X04:25
flodinewow no one tried E17 on ubuntu04:25
catolh <- what does that look like to you guys? gibberish? or funny letters?.. :p04:26
bob2er, of course they have04:26
hungerkestas : I keep getting a (EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap04:26
HappyFoolfunny letters04:26
bob2perhaps they're not around now, or waiting for you to get to your question04:26
HappyFoolcatolh: third one is an a with a circle over it04:26
HappyFoolcatolh: second circle with a slash. the first a melded into e04:26
blackgeckocatolh: you can join the translation tem or send them a mail, and offer some help, they sure be glad04:26
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catolhok, seems to be right.. but perhaps only ubuntu users can see it. When im talking to windows users over x-chat, it appears like gibberish to them.04:27
hungercatholh: it is glibberish for me A with ~ above plus some ascii stuff.04:27
bob2IRC unfortunately is not very internationalisation friendly04:27
knudsen__Hello. Is there a command showing a complete list of users existing on the system?04:27
bob2since everyone uses different encodings04:27
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hungercatolh: IRC is not transmitting the encoding used by you... so if the encoding matches all is well and others will just see glibberish.04:28
kyncaniknudsen__: uh, cat /etc/passwd ? ;)04:28
HappyFoolknudsen__: system -> administration -> users and groups, maybe ?04:28
knudsen__kyncani: thanks!04:28
catolhok04:28
_andreas_bob2 ah, you already read it? acpi=off the noise disappears. THATS a strange thing.:(04:28
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linuksocatolh: xchat uses utf-8 as default, windows users only understand iso-8859-1. You can change the charset for each server i xchat04:28
hondjeI bet IRC is transmitting it fine, the clients probably aren't set up with UTF-8 for encoding04:29
catolhlinukso, how? please tell me.. :)04:29
bob2that's usually the case04:29
linuksocatolh: Hmm, hold on.04:29
aykdo you know a graphical tool that permit to do underclocking ?04:29
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linuksocatolh: in x-chat's server list, select "edit". There you can change the charset.04:30
hungerAny ideas how to fix xkb in breezy?04:30
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gigaclonwhen brezzy comes out will it be eazy to upgrade?04:30
bob2gigaclon: yes04:30
linuksocatolh: if you also want just english in apps, edit /etc/enviroment04:31
thereseIs someone who success to launch Kubtuntu on a Imac G5 ?04:31
kyncaniayk: there's command line cpufrequtils04:31
p_mashmash it04:31
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michelhallo04:32
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kyncaniayk: powernowd can automatically underclock a cpu when it's not used04:32
catolhdont have the option to choose iso-8859-1, only iso-8859-15 and some others04:32
catolhshould i try iso-8859-15 ?04:33
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_andreashttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21232 High frequency noise using kernel 2.6.10 - Can anyone help? When ACPI=OFF then the noise is gone, if ACPI=ON then acpi functions work, but the noise drives you crazy. anyone help please?04:34
nalioththerese: i can't even get ubuntu installed on an iMac G504:34
linuksocatolh: you can just type which charset you want, but iso-8859-15 should do it to I guess04:34
bob2_andreas: so, file a bug04:34
bob2_andreas: no one here is an ubuntu kernel developer04:34
catolhlinukso, ok thanks. Ill try that04:34
bob2aside from fabio, and he's eating apricot danishes04:34
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hondjethey make apricot danishes? :o04:34
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_andreasbob2 oh, ok. :) just looking for a hint to solve my ONLY ubuntu problem :)04:35
HappyFooleeu04:35
naliothAntinomy: good day!04:35
aykkyncani: ok, on windows i know Centrino Hardware Control (screenshot : http://www.pbus-167.com/chc/status.gif ) but i haven't find anything similar under linux04:35
gvrocha_can anyone tell me whether it is possible to add the debian repositories to the synaptic pckg mgr04:35
Antinomynalioth yo man!04:35
_andreasbob2 actually running SILENT, without acpi enabled.04:35
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Antinomynalioth can I chat with you for 2 seconds...really, literally 2 seconds04:35
naliothgvrocha_: it's not adivsed to mix debian with ubuntu pkgs04:35
kyncaniayk: what do you want to do, why ?04:35
bob2gvrocha_: yes, but it's a terrible idea, don't do it04:35
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gvrocha_nalioth: hum... what could go wrong?04:35
hondjeother than everything breaking, it could turn your pets against you04:36
concept10My panel crashed and I keep getting this error: I've detected a panel already running,and will now exit. Anyone know how to fix this?04:36
bob2haha04:36
naliothgvrocha_: the pkgs are compiled differenty and may break ubuntu04:36
gvrocha_nalioth: i see...04:36
HappyFoolconcept10: maybe do 'pkill gnome-panel' and try again04:37
fryerfoxnalioth: what do you suggest doing if there is a .deb that you need to install then?  Use a source package and compile it yourself, perhaps?04:37
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gvrocha_nalioth: Are there any other repositories for Ubuntu other than the ones that are "pre-configured" (I mean other than the universe ones)?04:37
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bob2gvrocha_: what package in particular do you want?04:38
sorush20Guys when I use GNOME Baker to blank a CD RW I get the message that there is no media in the drive... this is not true .. I can double click on the CD Drive and I can browse the CD... I understand to blank a CD it must be unmounted... could you please help with this problem..04:38
peterbeHi all. My mozilla-firefox crashes with a Segmentation fault!! It was working fine yesterday but today I've done a apt-get upgrade which only upgraded apt-get and dselect (I think). What to do?04:38
naliothfryerfox: waht pkg would that be (and is it not available in all the ubuntu repos)?04:38
bob2sorush20: right click and umount it04:38
fryerfoxthere's a developement package for an embedded Linux platform (developer.axis.com) that includes cross-compilers, etc.04:38
bob2peterbe: /topic, it's known broken04:38
sorush20bob2, that would be a good If the unmount option exsited..04:38
gvrocha_Do you know what the latest version of graphviz for Debian is? I guess it may be more to date than the one in the Ubuntu repository..04:38
bob2sorush20: then unmount it from the terminal04:39
aykkyncani: i want to downvolt my proc by changing the vcore to have a lower temperature and have the fan running less04:39
bob2gvrocha_: http://packages.debian.org/graphviz04:39
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kestasis downvolt a word?04:39
bob2not in english04:39
knudsen__I am running proftpd, and I can log in using my user name and password. If I add a new user (useradd testuser) and provide a password (passwd testuser ...), then testuser cannot log in. What can be wrong?04:39
kyncaniayk: use powernowd then, it will automagically lower your cpu freq and reset it to max speed when needed (using it here)04:39
naliothfryerfox: if not available via ubuntu repos, compiling by hand is preferable04:40
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peterbebob2: there's nothing about that in the topic.04:40
sorush20bob2 do i JUST TYPE unmount cdrom004:40
aykkeikoz: overclocking <-> downvolting04:40
keikoz?04:40
bob2peterbe: oh, ok.  it is screwed, yes, with some extensions04:40
bob2sorush20: no04:40
bob2sorush20: sudo umount /media/cdrom004:40
keikozi'm not an overclocker xD04:40
kyncaniayk: processor usually running at 200mhz here (max 1.6 ghz)04:40
peterbebob2: Any ideas what I can do?04:41
fryerfoxnalioth: that'll be a real headache...  Is there a list of changes that could be made once you have installed from a .deb?04:41
aykkyncani: ok, thanks, i will try powernowd04:41
bob2wait for it to be fixed04:41
naliothfryerfox: and use "checkinstall" instead of "make install" (checkinstall makes and installs a .deb for easy system maintenance)04:41
bob2or downgrade to the previous version04:41
kyncaniayk: you'll also want cpufrequtils to see current cpu freq04:41
peterbebob2: how do I do that?04:42
fryerfoxnalioth - OK, I'll try that... thnx04:42
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mpmcHow do, I start something on but up.. and how do I get it to run as it needs super user prvis..?04:42
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mpmcboot*04:42
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rizlahi folks04:43
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rizlai need help, please04:43
rizlai can't open rar archives04:43
sorush20bob2, it can not find the command unmount..04:43
rizlai've already installed unrar and rar-2.8004:43
concept10HappyFool, any more suggestions? that doesnt work?04:43
mpmclol04:43
bob2sorush20: I didn't say unmount, it's umount04:43
gigaclonrizla try ark04:43
rizlaark?04:43
bob2ark calls the command line unrar tool04:43
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fryerfoxbtw, I really am impressed with Ubuntu as a distro - I have generally used Redhat and have tried Debian and Mandrake, but Ubuntu is a nice development system once you set the root password.04:44
aykkyncani: what's the name of the package to have the cpufrequtils ? cpufreqd ?04:44
HappyFoolconcept10: hmm. other that logout and login, no04:44
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HappyFoolconcept10: does 'pgrep gnome-panel' show anything ?04:44
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naliothfryerfox: set the root password? why would you do that?04:44
mpmcYes, Ubuntu support's eveything on my System :s04:44
mpmcFedora Didn't :s04:44
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rizlagigaclon,  t says: an error occured..04:45
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rizlamay be the file is corrupted04:45
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fryerfoxnalioth: it's exhausting typing sudo every time I want to do something that requires lower level access (such as direct access to eth0)04:45
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mpmcor it dont have the access righta04:45
annei have a wireless network at home, four other computers are using windows, i am using ubuntu, why is not my computer appearing in the other computers an vise verca04:46
naliothfryerfox: so type "sudo -s" for a root terminal04:46
Daveyanne: firewall?04:46
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naliothanne: using samba on your ubuntu?04:46
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rekarizla: have you tried 'unrar-nonfree'?04:46
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annenalioth, no havent used samba, what is that04:47
rizlano reka04:47
rizlai haven't repoo nonfree..04:47
rekarizla: give it a go ... it opened one of my files unrar couldn't04:47
fryerfoxnalioth: why is there a general discomfort with using a root account in Ubuntu?04:47
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rekarizla: it's in multiverse04:47
leninanyone plays championship manager 01/02 ???04:47
mpmcanne: That will most likely fix your prob :P use the pckmgr to get it04:48
rizlareka,   i haven't it in synaptic list..04:48
nukyhey, does anyone know how i can set system wide keyboard shortcuts for maximising, minimising windows?04:48
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anneok, in synaptic?04:48
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reka!tell rizla about repositories04:48
mpmcyes04:48
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Varangercrimsun: are you here?04:49
concept10HappyFool, after killing the panel 5 times it went away. Confused on panel activity, I am.04:49
azambujahello04:49
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fryerfoxhello04:49
Sleeperhello all. just wondering what wireless app you guys use04:49
rekarizla: see the link ubotu pm'ed you04:49
gigaclonin x-chat, in the channels to join box, what is the delimiter to join multiple channels on connect?04:49
rizlareka,  ok, i'm gonna try04:49
Sleeperim trying ndiswrapper but im getting errors04:49
hondjegigaclon: , without spaces04:49
mpmcanne: in terminal type man samba04:49
hondjelike #ubuntu,#another,#third04:50
azambujai need some help. i have configured networking and it works fine, but when i reboot it doesnt work. Then i dont change a bit in the configuration and run networking restart and it works fine04:50
mpmconce installed04:50
fryerfoxSleeper: I found that if you type: rmmod ipw2200\n modprobe ipw2200\n/etc/init.d/networking restart\n then it restarts a shut-down wifi card04:50
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fryerfoxwhere \n means new line04:50
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anneI have also trouble whith my printer, tried lo download sane and xsane, but what do i do to install it, used system, administration and printing, but the rigt driver device is not there04:50
mpmcwhere as windows is \r\n04:51
rekagigaclon: x-chat > server list > edit > channels to join04:51
azambujaanyone got ideas?04:51
fryerfoxmpmc: I wouldn't be typing /etc/init.d/... in Windows :)04:51
Sleeperfryfox its asking for kernel sources ..04:51
Sleeperooops04:51
Sleeperfryefox04:51
DekaPinkHaving a patent for emoticons... What's the world coming to...04:51
fryerfoxSleeper: what wifi card do you have?04:51
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Sleeperbrodcom04:52
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leninanyone plays championship manager 01/02 ???04:52
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mpmcazambuja: try adding it to start up.. I'm trying to find out how to start something myself04:52
HappyFoolDekaPink: where's that?04:52
bob2lenin: this doesn't sound very ubuntu-related04:52
sorush20bob2, blanking cd seems to keep on failing.... what can I do... i have put the results in the flood.. can you help...04:52
Sleeperbroadcom bcm15 from the ndiswrapper INSTALLATION site04:52
azambujampmc: it is starting up04:52
mpmcoh lol04:52
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fryerfoxsleeper: have you tried: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4498704:52
mpmcchecked the error logs?04:52
Sleeperit works fine in slackware04:52
leninbob2, yes i know. but i wanna exe this one under ubuntu04:52
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fryerfoxsleeper: did you insmod ndiswrapper04:53
bob2lenin: http://appdb.codeweavers.com/04:53
chakriwhat is the command to hibernate04:53
leninbob2, thanks04:53
DekaPinkHappyFool: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/0,39020645,39210396,00.htm04:53
Sleeperwell when i do make i get kernel sources error04:53
chakrii installed kubnutu and now hibernate is not there04:53
chakrican any one help me04:53
Sleeperjust wondering where i can get kernel sources04:54
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bob2chakri: sudo /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh04:54
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chakrioh04:54
chakriwill it work in kde also04:54
bob2it doesn't care04:55
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fryerfoxsleeper: you might want to post on the ubuntu forums - but I don't think you should need to rebuild from the kernel sources if you can find a module that suits you04:55
chakriand one more thing when i resume from hibernation , my keyboard and mouse are not working04:55
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chakribop2 help me04:55
bob2then record that on wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryPMTesting04:55
soultakerI need help04:55
bob2please don't be annoying04:55
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bob2soultaker: you need to ask a question04:55
soultakeri have 3 Hd two on NTFS windows XP the last one on ubuntu04:56
DekaPinkHuh... Is it hard to make themes for GDM? :304:56
gigaclon!w3204:56
ubotugigaclon: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?04:56
soultakerthe grb send me and error wen i try to boot on the XP04:56
highvoltageDekaPink: no, it isn't.04:56
gigaclon!mount04:56
ubotumount is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:56
mpmc!info emule04:56
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highvoltageyou edit 'n xml template.04:56
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podgeSleeper: What are you trying to do?04:56
soultakerntdlr missing04:56
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naliothsoultaker: your ntldr got eaten04:57
soultakerhow can i fix it04:57
naliothsoultaker: you only have one instance of XP on your machine?04:57
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soultakeryes only one04:58
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naliothsoultaker: i'm not sure how to regenerate a ntldr (are you sure grub is pointing at the right partition?)04:58
soultakeri me  Newb here04:59
blazinthow to find out which deb a given file belongs to?04:59
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NuuBi am needing to use sudo to get anything done - many of the programs are not wanting my default user to do anything - and i thought the default user shared certain high level privilages??04:59
bob2blazint: dpkg -S filename04:59
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HappyFoolNuuB: the priviledge the default user has is being able to use sudo05:00
blazintbob2, thanks, let me try05:00
bob2NuuB: which programs aren't working?05:00
podgeSleeper: Check out wiki.ubuntu.com and search for Kernel05:00
HappyFoolNuuB: ordinary users cannot use sudo05:00
gigaclon:)05:00
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Sleeperpodge im looking thanks man05:00
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naliothsoultaker: i'm not familiar with grub, to tell you where to look (i run PPC machines)05:00
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zone17Hi, I am trying to use configure script on some software but I get the error http://nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=44859, what package do I need exactly?05:00
Sleeperbut if i cant gte it.. im putting slackware on that laptop05:01
naliothsoultaker: but i'd look at where your grub is pointing05:01
podgeSleeper: What are you trying to compile?05:01
soultakeris ponting to Hd0105:01
bob2zone17: what are you trying to compile?05:01
zone17Some kde program made by a friend05:01
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naliothanybody can help soultaker with a grub issue?05:02
Sleeperpodge i just want to get ndiswrapper05:02
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podgeSleeper: There are debian packages for ndiswrapper..05:03
NuuBmy default user is being denied by many programs and i am needing to use sudo - i thought the default user was supposed to have high level permissions?05:03
HappyFoolSleeper: the version that comes with ubuntu is not sufficient?05:03
podgeSleeper: They are on the front page.. http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/05:03
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HappyFoolNuuB: read wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:03
NuuBfor example, i cannot create a file with nano unless i sudo05:03
soultakerwell i gone to reinstall the windows XP05:03
Sleeperhappyfool. no idea there was a version that came with...05:03
bob2NuuB: sure you can05:04
Chris_Tuckeri have a usbdisk and its suddonly telling me "read only filesystem"05:04
soultakerand do and stand alone of ubuntu Linux05:04
Chris_Tuckerhow can i unmount the device safely?05:04
bob2NuuB: you can't create afile outside your home dir without sudo, yes, and that's how it's supposed to work05:04
HappyFoolSleeper: ah. well, i have a 'ndiswrapper.ko' file -- and i don't even use ndiswrapper05:04
kyncaniaik: my bad, cpufrequtils is not available in hoary, will be on breezy. Forget about it then (breezy is not stable)05:04
soultakeri hate to change the HD on boot on the bios05:04
naliothsoultaker: stand alone? on another box?05:04
soultakerthe same one05:04
HappyFoolChris_Tucker: that might happen if there's a filesystem error05:04
NuuBah, k, home dir05:04
HappyFoolChris_Tucker: take a look in /var/log/dmesg05:04
zone17How do I install qt? Since there is no package named qt, what is the right one? Sorry if it's stupid.05:04
soultakerbut with out the XP hard drivers05:04
bob2zone17: libqt3-mt-dev05:05
Sleepermaybe in the kde05:05
soultakerhehehehe i love this linux but is shure hate the XP on the same Pc05:05
naliothsoultaker: you are getting rid of XP?05:05
bob2assuming the software isn't too badly written05:05
Chris_TuckerHappyFool no errors05:05
Sleeperjust use vmware05:05
Chris_Tuckeri just need to know how to safely unmount05:05
zone17bob2, but that is already installed05:05
zone17bob2, why do it fail then?05:05
HappyFoolChris_Tucker: hmm. i don't know -- you can't right click on it's icon and choose unmount ?05:06
soultakeri whant to05:06
bob2zone17: perhaps you don't have a toolchain then05:06
bob2zone17: sudo aptitude install build-essential05:06
soultakerXP shure bring me a  lot of virus05:06
soultakerbut i need time to migrate to linux05:06
Chris_TuckerHappyFool: never knew that was an option05:06
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zone17bob2, thanks, I didn't have that, I'll try again :-)05:07
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HappyFoolChris_Tucker: that worked then?05:07
zone17bob2, I still get the same error.05:07
bob2zone17: paste it to #flood05:07
HappyFoolChris_Tucker: it's a little worrying that the disk suddenly became read-only05:08
Chris_TuckerHappyFool to unmount, yes05:08
azambujaHappyFool: any ideas why my networking just works when i restart it after booting? thanks05:08
Chris_TuckerHappyFool: its doing it again, does it when i try and add more files05:08
HappyFoolazambuja: maybe a module needed for it has not yet been loaded05:08
Chris_Tuckeryet only 16/117 mb used05:08
HappyFoolazambuja: take a look at 'lsmod'; if any modules there are likely to be needed for your networking hardware, add them to /etc/modules05:09
zone17bob2, done05:09
bob2zone17: /usr/share/doc/libqt3-mt-dev/READHE.Debian, iirc05:09
bob2you need to export an environment variable05:09
HappyFoolazambuja: look in /var/log/messages, /var/log/syslog and /var/log/dmesg for clues as to which modules are important05:09
HappyFoolChris_Tucker: is it a FAT (i.e., windows) filesystem on the usb stick/disk/whatever ?05:09
Chris_Tuckeryes05:09
Chris_Tuckeri just formatted it with its own formatter again, its in a camera so that was easy05:10
soultakertime to try05:10
Chris_Tuckertrying everything i did again05:10
soultakerlarter05:10
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pluffsyhello05:10
zone17bob2, I don't have that readme file, how do I get that?05:10
HappyFoolChris_Tucker: maybe unmount, and run 'dosfsck -n /dev/<whateveryourusbpartitionis>'05:10
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bob2zone17: .gz, it seems05:10
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HappyFoolChris_Tucker: that's a filesystem check05:11
HappyFoolChris_Tucker: -n means it won't try to repair it05:11
zone17bob2, yes but only changelog.Debian.gz05:11
phixionanyone know much about muh? im running it on my local machine, I've set the config file correctly, what address should I be connecting to through irc?05:11
Chris_TuckerHappyFool, i reformatted the filesystem on the chip just now, i'll fsck it if the problem presists05:11
nuky`is there any way to speed up firefox? mine takes ages to load and i don't have any extra themes or extensions05:11
bob2zone17: well, I have /usr/share/doc/libqt3-mt-dev/README.Debian.g05:11
pluffsydo you know if there are some like database where I can find info about services I can use to call to normal swedish phones (I live in sweden)? Skype can do it, but I really don't wanna use a closed protocol for communication. I guess I need some service that supports some gnomemeeting protocol.05:11
bob2er, gz05:11
HappyFoolChris_Tucker: you can use 'sudo fdisk -l' to find out what the partition is (probably /dev/sda1)05:11
azambujaHappyFool: but how can it works when i restart it simply, without loading any extra thing?05:11
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naliothnuky: use galeon or kazehakase05:12
Chris_TuckerHappyFool, i knew it was sda1 all along05:12
HappyFoolazambuja: maybe the module gets loaded in between -- i don't know05:12
kutucapenalioth, how about epiphany?05:12
HappyFoolazambuja: that is my best guess05:12
azambujaHappyFool: humm. i have two cards, i put both of them on etc/modules you suggest?05:12
nukynalioth, thanks, googling them.. still pretty new to ubuntu!05:12
HappyFoolazambuja: i don't know; try it and see05:12
zone17bob2, would you mind pasting to #flood just what the export is?05:12
naliothkutucape: they are all 3 gecko based, and all 3 use gtk205:13
azambujaHappyFool: ok, thanks a lot happyfool05:13
bob2zone17: something's pretty wrong if you don't have that file05:13
bob2export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt305:13
bob2export QMAKESPEC=linux-g++05:13
flodinecan someone tell me the command to take snapshots05:13
zone17bob2, I have the /usr/share/doc/libqte-mt3-dev, but it only contains changelog information files in .gz05:14
kutucapenalioth, from your point of view, which one is faster?05:14
bob2zone17: you don't have libqt3-mt-dev installed?05:14
zone17bob3, yes05:14
zone17bob2, sorry, yes..05:14
bob2ETOOMANYNEGATIVES05:14
naliothkutucape: kazehakase05:14
bob2zone17: do you have it installed or not?05:14
zone17bob2, doing dpkg -l | grep qt show it05:14
HappyFoolheh05:15
nukyoh they are different browsers.. i was just wandering if i could speed up firefox.. thanks.. i'll look into them though05:15
bob2zone17: libt3-mt-dev, not libqt3e-mt-dev?05:15
zone17bob2, I have libqte-mt3-dev installed05:15
kutucapenalioth, i never hear that before...05:15
bob2zone17: you need libqt3-mt-dev installed05:16
bob2not libqt3e-mt-dev05:16
kutucapeis kazehakase on ubuntu repositories?05:16
nalioth!info kazehakase05:16
ubotukazehakase: (gecko based web browser using GTK), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 0.2.6-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 554 kB, Installed size: 1472 kB05:16
nukykutucape: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/kazehakase05:16
zone17bob2, aaah!05:16
phixionanyone know much about muh? im running it on my local machine, I've set the config file correctly, what address should I be connecting to through irc?05:16
kutucapei think i shourd try it :D05:16
kutucape*should*05:17
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nukyit's in synaptic too.. i just have the standard repositories05:17
lenincan i use a "public" proxy server for improve my internet connection ???05:17
bob2how would that help?05:17
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bob2you still need to shove the data down your home internet connection05:18
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GrahamI've just installed Ubuntu (hurrah!). I got a fatal error when trying to install GRUB so installed LILO instead. However, LILO boots to Linux by default and doesn't give me an option to boot to WinXP. how can I boot to the latter by default, or be given an option?05:18
naliothkutucape: open synaptic and search for 'browsers' they are all free to use. use them all and keep using the ones you like05:18
leninbob2, but proxy catch web and save it. its fastr uh ?05:18
AndaresHas anyone had problems forcing package versions in Synaptic?05:18
bob2lenin: no05:18
bob2Andares: if it crashes, file a bug05:19
AntinomyI need to make a list of user names from the command line. Does anyone know a command for this?05:19
bob2but you shouldn't really need to do that, anyway05:19
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nukyis it worth installing the mozilla suite, calendar and all? does anyone make good use of it or recommend it?05:19
Andaresbob2, but that would taaake too long! :(05:19
Antinomynuky: I would do the standalone05:19
kutucapeokeanos, thanks05:19
Arafangionlenin: There is only one situation in which using an open proxy server can improve your webbrowsing.05:19
HappyFoolAntinomy: cat /etc/passwd|cut -f 1 -d ':'05:19
zerboxxIs it possible to open *.lit files in linux?05:19
kutucapeokeanos, thanks05:19
bob2Andares: huh? compared to what?05:19
Antinomynuky: fire fox, thunderbird, sunbird05:20
HappyFoolAntinomy: that lists system users too05:20
naliothAntinomy: "ls /home/"05:20
bob2nuky: it's being phased out05:20
Arafangionlenin: And that's if you have a very slow (And I mean very slow) connection to the internet, and the proxy compresses the traffic for you.05:20
Antinomynalioth thanks05:20
bob2nuky: e.g. it may not be in ubuntu main at all for breezy05:20
InitMassmy firefox closes when i close a tab, why is that?05:20
nukyoh i see.. thanks05:20
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bob2InitMass: do you have lots of extenions instaled?05:21
naliothzerboxx: you will need to google "convert lit"05:21
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gvrocha_bob2: the package with the instalation of graphviz version2.2 depends on a whole bunch of stuff... If I download the .deb file, dpkg won't take care of getting the dependencies... Is there anyway of automating the process?05:21
InitMassbob2, i haven't installed anything new lately05:21
phixionhow can i find my ip on my network?05:21
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zerboxxnalioth: ok, thanks05:21
bob2gvrocha_: er, don't use packages from debian, at all05:22
bob2phixion: 'ip a'05:22
phixionthx bob05:22
lsuactiafnerhow do i add two root passwds on one box?05:22
bob2InitMass: did you get a security update in the past couple of days?05:22
Andaresbob2, bypassing Synaptic and finding a way to force installing a "versionless" package.05:22
bob2lsuactiafner: just use sudo05:22
Arafangionlsuactiafner: I'd have two admin accounts, and use sudo.05:22
bob2Andares: wtf05:22
gvrocha_bob2: what if I need a newer version of graphviz that is not available in the Ubuntu repository?05:22
bob2Andares: "versionless"?05:22
lsuactiafnerno i dont sudo..05:22
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InitMassbob2, i have my system up to date05:22
bob2gvrocha_: then wait or compile it from source05:22
ompaulanyone know any tool that is like ispell for grammer? even if there is one wrapped up in a word processer I would consider it05:22
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kyncanilsuactiafner: two root passwords ??05:22
bob2InitMass: and do you have lots of extensions installed?05:22
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lsuactiafneryeh..05:22
leninArafangion, thanks to you and bob for help me05:23
jeran__How do you install from a .sh file?05:23
InitMassbob2, but when i open FF in a terminal i can see a segmentation fault when closing a tab05:23
lsuactiafnerneed my flatmate to get root on a remote box but i dont want to share a passwd05:23
Andaresbob2, Package enlightenment has no available version, but exists in the database.05:23
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dabaRjeran__: a /sh file is a script05:23
gvrocha_bob2: where can I get instructions to compile stuff from source? And that still leaves me with the dependecies issue right?05:23
ashokfolks, how can i create a folder which can be used as a shared folder between users05:23
bob2InitMass: do. you. have. extensions. installed?05:23
ompaullsuactiafner, that is a job for sudo05:23
jeran__dabaR: How do I run that script?05:23
dabaRjeran__: do you have it executable yet? ls -l will tell you.05:23
ramblingturtleI cant figure out how to install the new firefox so that way i can get the plugins working.05:23
kyncanilsuactiafner: you can use ssh then05:23
bob2Andares: then there's nothing to install05:23
InitMassbob2, yes i do05:23
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paperashok, mkdir folder05:23
lsuactiafnerlets hope playin with /etc/passwd aint a bad idea..05:23
paperashok, then chmod a+rwx folder05:23
ompaullsuactiafner, it is05:23
bob2InitMass: if so, you've hit the bug in the security patched version this week.  pitti is working on it, it should be fixed soon.05:23
Arafangionbob2: You know, an eubuntu could be nice... ubuntu with enlightenment desktop manager!05:23
bob2lsuactiafner: don't do that05:24
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paperheh05:24
lsuactiafnererr shadow is even a better worse idea..05:24
dabaRJeran: does the file show soemthing like -r-xr-xr-x  1 dbernar1 dbernar1 7294970 2005-07-11 04:42 (ebook - pdf) Java Swing (O'Reilly).pdf ?05:24
Andaresbob2, but it shows up in the list!05:24
ashokpaper, iam unable to do that in the home folder05:24
bob2Andares: that error means the package doesn't exist05:24
bob2Andares: because other things mention it05:24
kyncanilsuactiafner: :)05:24
dabaRJeran: the x would symbol that it is executable, is it?05:24
paperyour home folder needs to have write/read permissions05:24
ompaullsuactiafner, you need to use the command sudo to achieve what you want to achieve05:24
paperfor other users05:24
bob2gvrocha_: talk to the graphviz people, and, no, not usually05:24
InitMassbob2, is it a serious thing or is it easy to solve?05:24
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bob2InitMass: how do you mean?  it will segfault until pitti sorts out the patch, yes.05:24
JerandabaR: Okay, That fixed it.. I'm trying to install Crossover Office.. It doesn't like that i'm using Sudo :-/05:24
ompaullsuactiafner, and the big advantage is that sudo gets all the access logged05:25
gvrocha_nalioth: how do I join ##apple?05:25
bob2or whoever is working on it now05:25
Andaresbob2, Hmm... There's gotta be a way that I can install Enlightenment DR17 in Ubuntu!05:25
paperAndares, have fun with that05:25
dabaRgvrocha_: /join #apple05:25
bob2Andares: sure, get the source and compile it05:25
lsuactiafnertwo root passwds is a good idea.. funny it aint implemented by shadow and passwd already05:25
gvrocha_thanks dabaR05:25
bob2Andares: bear in mind it's unstable and rather featureless05:25
bob2lsuactiafner: it's a stupid idea, use sudo05:25
InitMassbob2, i mean. will it take a long time to fix you think?05:25
paperbob2, it is not featureless at all05:25
bob2also, it's easy to do05:25
dabaRpaper: ashok , paper, why would he allow write to his home folder?05:25
bob2paper: which language do I script it in?05:25
bob2InitMass: no, should only be a day or two, I gather05:25
dabaRashok: by default, you can read files in other users folders...05:25
paperbob2 im sorry i thought you meant e1705:26
kutucapewhere can i find a quartz like window manager?05:26
kutucape!quartz05:26
ubotukutucape: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:26
lsuactiafnerbob2 : might sound funny to you but i really dont like usin some programs, phobia effect..05:26
dabaRashok: just read their files, and they yours, dont allow write between users...theyll erase your files eventually.05:26
InitMassbob2, ok good. but if i remove the installation of FF and reinstall it. do you think that will solve my problems?05:26
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Andaresbob2, I know that. But this guide should work! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&page=1&pp=10&highlight=e1705:26
ashokoki dabar..05:26
kyncanilsuactiafner: if you cant a remote admin access, ssh is the most convenient and secure way to do it. As for the root thing, anyone with id 0 can do anything i think. Maybe a set up with two accounts with id 0 (never tried it though)05:26
dabaR+ if you a+w then your web server can even erase your files.05:26
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Andaresbob2, I tried getting the source, it gives me compile-time errors!05:26
bob2paper: I was talking about e17...compared to, say, sawfish, it's a little bare05:26
lsuactiafnerkyncani : thanks05:27
paperbob2, eh to each their own, I am quite happy with e17 and everything that comes with it05:27
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bob2Andares: no, that guide is wrong and written by someone with little idea of how ubuntu works05:27
dabaRJeran: that fixed what? it was just a command to get info, ls -l was, does not fix anything, makes no changes.05:27
bob2Andares: those packages do not work on ubuntu hoary, no matter how much screwing around you do05:27
lsuactiafneryeh thats worked kyncani05:27
dabaRJeran: if the file is executable, type in ./filename.sh05:27
JerandabaR: It wasn't executable, I made it executable and it worked05:27
dabaRaha05:27
kyncanilsuactiafner: ;)05:27
dabaRok05:27
bob2Andares: if it doesn't compile, then report a bug to the e17 developers05:27
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[Spooky] anyone have the link for installing the ATI card ?05:28
lsuactiafnerheh i like playin around with bad ideas. they tend to work and create a funny effect later on05:29
bob2[Spooky] : if you mean "installing the ATI binary drivers", then wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:29
dabaRwiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowTo05:29
GrahamI have an Acer laptop and need to get wlan working - are there any specific or generic drivers available?05:29
[Spooky] bob2: thanks05:29
Andareseet_lib.c:772: error: `uLongf' undeclared (first use in this function)05:29
Andares:X05:29
bob2that could be a bug, or it could be you nto following the instructions05:30
dabaRGraham: you will n eed to know the exact model of the card. There is no generic driver, do you have the cd with the drivers?05:30
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GrahamdabaR: I've downloaded the Windows driver from Acer's website to see if it has the model name of the card, but it doesn't.05:31
[Spooky] bob2: hm that didnt work...05:31
GrahamdabaR: And I can't boot into Windows to check because LILO doesn't give me an option; it boots straight into Linux05:31
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InitMassbob2, if i remove the firefox extension dir in my ~. will that solve the problem?05:32
bob2"didnt work"?05:32
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hybrid_gothwhats the apt command to build05:32
bob2InitMass: I thin kso05:32
dabaRGraham: haha, youre screwed for windows. Are you gonna be installing that again? do you plan on dual booting?05:32
[Spooky] bob2: is it possible to install Windows after Linux ?05:32
bob2hybrid_goth: apt doesn't build things05:32
blkdominihi all05:32
bob2[Spooky] : yes, but windows is shit and overrides the MBR, so you need a linux boot floppy or live cd to undo the damage05:32
Chris_Tuckerhow can i tell what processes are using /dev/sda1?05:32
bob2hybrid_goth: unless you mean 'apt-get -b source foo'05:33
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Chris_Tuckeri have to disconnect it but appearantly its "busy"05:33
hybrid_gothbob2: for deb-src repos05:33
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prodigyI'm trying to install Nicotine with Ubuntu Hoary05:33
[Spooky] bob2: hm ok, well then i would like to fix the fgrlx install instead :/05:33
bob2hybrid_goth: then as above05:33
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hybrid_gothok ty much bob205:33
prodigybut I'm stuck on python setup.py install --prefix=<dir>05:33
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blkdominianyone know games for ubuntu?05:33
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bob2[Spooky] : so, explain what "doesnot work" means05:33
prodigywhat do I type?05:33
GrahamdabaR: Yeah, I wanted to dual boot. When I tried to install GRUB it identified that windows xp is installed on my drive, but I had a fatal error when installing GRUB so had to go with LILO. How can I boot to xp?05:33
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ubuntuI run grub-install /dev/hda05:34
ubuntuCould not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.05:34
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deFryskprodigy, sudo apt-get install nicotine05:34
InitMassbob2, yes it did :)05:34
dabaRblkdomini: synaptic knows of every package your computer is set up to possibly know of.05:34
zukalkhey does anyone know where the gnome-panel definitions are stored? the drawers i have, their position, etc05:34
ubuntu/dev/hda is /boot though05:34
ompaulChris_Tucker, that is a strange question, but a program called lsof would be a useful place to start looking, then look at how the drive is mounted and hey presto with a little help you can get a grip on this05:34
blkdominithank you dabar!!05:34
bob2prodigy: nicotine is in Ububuntu already05:34
[Spooky] bob2: i get this: Paketet fglrx-driver r ett virtuellt paket som tillhandahlls av:05:34
[Spooky]   xfree86-driver-fglrx 4.3.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu1105:34
[Spooky]   xorg-driver-fglrx 6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu1105:34
prodigyfriggin, that was so easy, I should have known05:34
prodigythanks05:34
deFryskprodigy, ;p05:34
ubuntuWHY WHY WHY!?05:34
shalihow can I use scp to copy a file from a linux box to a windows system?05:34
thechitowncubswow, im baffled05:34
hondjeshali: using something like winscp05:34
dabaRGraham: reinstall? also, maybe, you can fix the mbr05:35
ubuntucygwin05:35
kutucapeshali, use pscp05:35
bob2shali: run pscp on the windows side05:35
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bob2shali: google for 'ssh putty' to find it05:35
bob2[Spooky] : I don't speak french or whatever that is05:35
[Spooky] bob2: when doing: sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver05:35
hybrid_gothgoogle putty it is the first one05:35
dabaRwelcome, blkdomini .05:35
shalihondje: yes, I know to use winscp and something like that. But i want to know how to do it with the command line05:35
Chris_Tuckerompaul, that returns blank .. nothing open05:35
dabaR[Spooky] : well, install one of those, do you use hoary?05:35
hondjethen listen to them :)05:35
Chris_Tuckeryet when i go to unmount the device is busy05:36
GrahamdabaR: Well surely windows is still there as grub recognised it - I assume to access it I must need to fix the mbr, correct?05:36
[Spooky] bob2: yes05:36
zukalkbob2, french?? sounds more like swedish or something05:36
sorush20i forgot to take notes..05:36
ubuntudo I need to run grub-install after modifying menu.1st?05:36
[Spooky] i mean dabaR05:36
sorush20can you tell me agian..05:36
dabaR[Spooky] : then, insall the xorg one05:36
LinuxJonesubuntu, nope05:36
bob2[Spooky] : what does the error mean?05:36
bob2zukalk: ok, english is all I speak, unfortunately05:36
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ubuntuoh cool05:37
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dabaRthere are two packages, it is telling you that there is no fglrx-driver, but that there are those two possible matches, choose one. Hoary uses xorg, and so should your card.05:37
ubuntulol.. watching Trekkies on HBO... people are weird :P05:37
ompaulChris_Tucker, what does df say about /dev/sda1 ?05:37
ubuntuImagine seeing someone at the grocery store wearing a crappy home made star fleet uniform :P05:37
dabaRGraham: I have very little Idea on how to fix the grub. You put in the cd, choose to fix the install already there, and then go command line, then you type in a command, and it works. I am sure google will give you tutorials if support.m$.com wont.05:38
Chris_Tuckerompaul. the same it did 10 minutes ago, 122M 14M 108M 12% /media/usbdisk05:38
GrahamdabaR: Thanks - I'll google.05:38
prodigywhat if Nicotine is telling me I can't log in--invalid pass?05:38
zukalkdoes anyone know where the gnome-panel definitions are stored? the drawers i have, their position, etc05:39
deFryskprodigy, /j Nicontine ?05:39
dabaRLinuxJones: really doesnty have to run it?05:39
deFryskprodigy, /j #Nicontine ?05:39
dabaRupdate-grub05:39
prodigywhere do I type that?05:39
Chris_Tuckerhere05:39
ompaulChris_Tucker, you can try 'sudo umount /media/usbdisk' if there is no joy from that, have you a terminal or program running off data on that disk?05:39
ashokhow can i login as root ?05:39
deFryskprodigy, in jout txt bar05:39
[Spooky] dabaR: done that getting the same error...05:39
dabaRwelcome, Graham.05:39
ompaulashok, you don't you use sudo05:39
ompaul!sudo05:39
ubotuwell, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:39
Chris_Tuckerompaul, nope05:39
prodigythere's no one on Nicotine05:40
Chris_Tuckerhm wait05:40
Chris_Tuckerit just stopped05:40
Chris_Tuckerits working now05:40
dabaR[Spooky] : getting same error when you type in sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx?05:40
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deFryskprodigy, you have to set up nicotine with user and pass like in soulseek05:40
LinuxJonesdabaR, that's one of the nice things about grub is that you don't have to re-write the information every time a change is made to the config file :)05:40
prodigyI did05:40
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deFryskthen login05:40
ompaulChris_Tucker, you can chance 'sudo umount -f /media/usbdisk' but that can damage data on that partition05:40
prodigywhen I login it doesn't ask me for the password05:40
dabaRLinuxJones: really? I always thought you have to update-grub, I guess another one of those things you laern from the ubuntuguide:)05:41
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[Spooky] dabaR: yepp05:41
deFryskprodigy, it should when you connect I guess05:41
hybrid_goth!backports05:41
ubotubackports is, like, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports05:41
LinuxJonesdabaR, just make your changes to menu.lst and that's it :)05:41
dabaRcool.05:41
dabaR[Spooky] : can you paste the error?05:41
[Spooky] dabaR: you can swedish ?05:42
D1can anyone recommend a good ident server that works out of the box without little configuration?05:42
dabaR /join #flood05:42
Chris_Tuckerompaul, it unmounted already05:42
dabaRI can tell from the context05:42
phixionanyone able to help me? ive set up muh (irc bouncer) on my local machine, its connected to the server but im having problems connecting. which IP should I be connecting to in IRC to connect to the bouncer.05:42
ompaulChris_Tucker, funny thing usb :)05:42
dabaRWhen ubotu says something is in the restricted section, is that main?05:42
LinuxJonesdabaR, unless your bootloader get's overwritten by say installing Windows then you would have to update-grub05:43
dabaRaha, thats what you use it for...05:43
prodigywhat's a good server for Nicotine?05:43
prodigyI can't seem to connect to any05:43
dabaRGraham: you will need to get your lilo/grub again after you isntall windows./05:43
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Chris_Tuckerok this is odd05:44
stjepanhello05:44
dabaRhi05:44
dabaRstjepan.05:44
stjepando you know how to install KDE without downloading?05:44
Chris_Tuckerwhy does df tell me i have only 25 m used on the camera, out of 128, yet when i try to cp or mv something to it, it says no space left05:44
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stjepanpozdrav, dabaR05:44
stjepan:)05:44
deFryskprodigy set up you nicotine in settings05:44
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stjepanso?05:45
stjepanI have Ubuntu Install CD05:45
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stjepanand repository DVD05:45
ramblingturtleanyone know of a program that is like gparted but allows you to mount or unmount different partitions05:45
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stjepanramblingturtle: what's wroing with mount and unmount?05:46
stjepando you know how to install KDE?05:46
stjepanno?05:46
stjepan:(05:46
ashokhow do i give access using chmod for a complete folder05:46
dabaRstjepan: so, you need to install the kde from the dvd?05:46
ubuntuthat didn't work... I modified my menu.1st file and rebooted, still get errors, still tries to boot the wrong patition05:47
dabaRthe whole kubuntu-desktop?05:47
tritium /set completion_amount 005:47
Xenguyashok: chmod -R05:47
LuNaTiK^GuYstjepan: i tihnk it is:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:47
stjepandabaR: yeah05:47
ramblingturtlestjepan: i am looking for gui based programs to put together a control center for family05:47
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D1identd servers anyone?05:47
ashokit says No such file or directory05:48
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WebMavenHi folks.05:48
HappyFoolD1:05:48
HappyFoolfrik, stupid enter key05:48
WebMavenIs the dpkg update legit?05:48
D1hehe05:48
antrixhello all, a python libraries question. I've got python2.4-sqlite installed, but it seems to be linked against libsqlite (2.8.15) Why don't we have pysqlite linked against sqlite3 ?05:48
HappyFoolD1: try 'apt-cache search identd'05:48
Chris_Tuckerwhats the prefix to cp to a network server?05:48
D1I know that.05:48
D1I just need a recommendation05:49
Chris_Tuckernetwork:/// or network://05:49
HappyFoolD1: oh, sorry, not a clue ;)05:49
D1on a good identd server that works out of the box05:49
ashokwats wrong with this - sudo chmod +rwxX *.*05:49
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HappyFoolashok: what are you trying to do? that looks dangerous05:49
LuluGouveiae ae turma do #ubuntu05:49
Xenguyashok: man chmod05:49
HappyFoolChris_Tucker: in nautilus, something like 'smb://computer/share' for windows share05:50
ashoki want to give write permission to a particular folder05:50
Chris_Tuckernvm i dragged and dropped05:50
LuluGouveiaE AE PORRA05:50
LuluGouveiaME DA OI CARALHO :)05:50
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misfit_toyanybody have a recommendation for a wireless USB NIC that works outta the box with Ubuntu?05:50
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stjepanheya05:51
Xenguyashok: write permission to who? (User, Group, or All?)05:51
ashokall05:51
nukycan anyone recommend a good scheduling program.. just to keep timetables, appointments, etc..05:51
HappyFoolashok: *.* is a dos-ism - just * will do. Also, try +rwX, not xX. Finally, what folder is this?05:51
stjepanapt-get install kubuntu-desktop doesn't work05:51
misfit_toynuky, evolution has great calendaring built in05:51
stjepan:(05:51
dabaRstjepan: got an answer yet?05:51
dabaRok05:51
stjepanno05:51
dabaRgood05:51
stjepan:)05:51
ashokits just a shared docs folder05:51
stjepansi normalan?05:51
stjepan:)05:51
Xenguyashok: something like -> chmod a+w filenames05:51
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dabaRstjepan: add your dvd to your sources.list05:51
stjepanhehe05:52
dabaRas much as one can be, yes, stjepan .05:52
stjepanhow?05:52
misfit_toyanybody have a recommendation for a wireless USB NIC that works outta the box with Ubuntu?05:52
Xenguyashok: will change permissions on files in that directory05:52
sorush20Hi.. I have been trying to sort this problem out for more than two days.05:52
stjepanoh05:52
stjepanI have it on linst05:52
stjepandabaR: OK05:52
stjepanwhat now?05:52
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HappyFoolmisfit_toy: look here maybe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards05:53
dabaRstjepan: post your sources.list to pastebin -> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/05:53
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dabaRwhoever was trying to install that acer card, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto05:53
stjepandabaR: all is commented, only DVD is not05:54
misfit_toyHappyFool, thanks, I keep forgetting about that link, duh.05:54
AntinomyCan anyone suggest another good linux distro? Ubu is just not working with my laptop.05:54
dabaRis there kubuntu-desktop on the dvd? can you use synaptic to see what is on the dvd? cause if it was set up right in sources.list, you should be able to.05:54
HappyFoolAntinomy: look maybe on distrowatch.com05:54
dabaRAntinomy: ya, um, exactly, or something like that.05:54
AntinomyHappyFool: ok, thanls05:55
Antinomythanks05:55
dabaRAntinomy: if it dont work in ubuntu, it should be pretty much the same everywhere, what is not working?05:55
stjepandabaR: no, there is not kubuntu-desktop05:55
sorush20I have two computers.. a laptop that I'm running on ubuntu and talking to you right now.. and a pc which I reluctantly changed to a dual boot OS. The problem began when I tried to check or viruses on my pc since the OS Win XP was unusually slow. I had kaspersky anti virus running but it seemded to have no effect. Then I decied to download Panda antivirus and installed it. I ran a full scan and found 95 infected files included 05:55
AntinomydabaR: it's a long story.  Got an afternoon?05:55
sorush20As It began to load XP again.. it frooze...05:56
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stjepan:(05:56
stjepanwhat should I do?05:56
dabaRand now you want xp to load again?05:56
Antinomydabar: after solving about 3,000 other problems with the help of this very generous community, it's just hanging at the "Ubuntu" screen right after login05:56
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dabaRstjepan, is there a list of files in synaptic?05:56
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prodigyI'm using Nicotine and I'm just setting it up, 'm using mail.slsk.org:2240 as a server to connect05:57
ashokoki xenguy05:57
dabaRAntinomy: erase everything in your /tmp folder, maybe that will help. sudo rm /tmp/*05:57
stjepandabaR: what list of files?05:57
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prodigybut I get the message Can't connect to server mail.slsk.org:224005:57
[Spooky] dabaR and bob2 thanks for the time, i will see if i can fix this error...05:57
AntinomydabaR: I'm tired, and I'm afraid I will be fixing problems for as long as I have this.05:57
dabaRstjepan: you know, synaptic gives you a list of packages you can install.05:57
hybrid_gothph00: how is it going05:57
LuluGouveiaHELP05:57
dabaRAntinomy: go to sleep, fix it in the morning.05:57
AntinomydabaR: I'm learning a ton, but I would like to use it one of these days05:57
stjepandabaR: yeah05:57
dabaRI use debian right now, and I had the same thing, that fixed it.05:57
AntinomydabaR: this is the third morning.05:57
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stjepandabaR: there is only CD in repositories05:58
prodigyI need help with Nicotine05:58
deFryskprodigy, firewall ?05:58
stjepandabaR: how will I add DVD?05:58
dabaRstjepan: the dvd, right?05:58
dabaRoh05:58
LuluGouveiaHELP! COMO EU CONECTO VIA ADSL COM O UBUNTU 5.04 LIVE CD?05:58
prodigyI don't think I have a firewall05:58
LuluGouveiaHELP! COMO EU CONECTO VIA ADSL COM O UBUNTU 5.04 LIVE CD???? PLIS05:58
ph00hybrid_goth : pretty good, except that I have all these instances of gpg-agent running and I don't know hwat's starting them all, or how I can kepp from having 8 or 10 of them running at once05:58
dabaRwell, tell me what the cd entry looks like, I cant come up with it.05:58
LuluGouveiaHELP! COMO EU CONECTO VIA ADSL COM O UBUNTU 5.04 LIVE CD???? PLIS???05:58
dabaRLuluGouveia: sudo ppoeconf05:58
hybrid_gothph00: wow05:58
LuluGouveiadabaR VC E BRASILEIRO?05:58
hybrid_gothLuluGouveia: #ubuntu-es05:58
HappyFoolLuluGouveia: we do not speak your language. try /join #ubuntu-pt or /join #ubuntu-es05:59
dabaRLuluGouveia: nope.05:59
stjepandabaR: how do you mean?05:59
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dabaRhybrid_goth: in brasil they speak portuguese05:59
dabaR:)05:59
stjepandabaR: what it looks like???05:59
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ashokthis gives an error - sudo chmod a+rwX *05:59
ph00brazil is portugese, so prob -pt05:59
dabaRlike, msg me the line you have in sources.list abiout the cd.05:59
HappyFoolthere's also a #ubuntu-br05:59
prodigyIs there anyone who could help me with Nicotine please?05:59
dabaRI was there the other day.05:59
Antinomywindows, 1; ubuntu 005:59
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prodigyI don't know why I can't connect, it says the server is down05:59
LuluGouveiaNINGUEM AJUDA LA05:59
LuluGouveia:(05:59
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LuluGouveiaAPRENDAM A FALAR PORTUGUES PRA ME AJUDAREM06:00
dabaRLuluGouveia: is it a router+adsl modem?06:00
ashokpls help.. sudo chmod a+rwX *06:00
ashok gives an error06:00
ph00njeff@pita:~$ man nicotine06:00
ph00No manual entry for nicotine06:00
jcapoteis gstreamer0.8-mad in the hoary-extras repo, or do i have to add another one06:00
sorush20so.. I installed Ubuntu... to see if I could recover through that... I installed ubuntu and grub loader and was able to have access to the routen boots.. like ubuntu kernels and windows xp.. when I selected xp nothing happened just the same really it just froze...  I restarted a few times and searche on the net for a solution searching on... XP will not boot.. somewhere on the web I found a solution referring to XP recovery co06:00
stjepandeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted06:00
jcapoteim following the guide over at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-42ee8db829cfca66a3a0f4f71a6682392bbe459c06:00
LuluGouveiadabaR Velox... adsl modem 256k...06:00
stjepandabaR: so?06:00
WebMavenLuluGouveia:  #ubuntu-pt or #ubuntu-es06:01
prodigyI'm using Nicotine and I'm just setting it up, 'm using mail.slsk.org:2240 as a server to connect06:01
ph00so, anyone have similar experience witrh gpg-agent?06:01
prodigyand the server is not responding06:01
jcapotegstreamer0.8-mad anyone?06:01
chillywillygstreamer sucks06:02
chillywillyimho06:02
WebMavenIs the dpkg update legit?06:02
prodigyare you talking to me?06:02
WebMavenno, just asking generally.06:02
jcapotei dont care, i just want mp3 support06:02
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dabaRLuluGouveia: sudo pppoeconf06:02
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sorush20guys if I renew MBR will I loose GRUB06:03
WebMavenI see dpkg and dselect updates, and it occured to me that that would be a great way to compromise systems.06:03
LuluGouveiadabaR tank you!06:03
dabaRjcapote: what is needed? what do you need?06:03
dabaRLuluGouveia: welcome.06:03
dabaRthat should do it.06:03
prodigyCan someone please give me help with Nicotine?06:03
prodigymaybe just a server name?06:03
ph00hybrid_goth : lots of enthusiasm in this chan, but not much direction06:03
HappyFoolsorush20: that's ok, you can restore it relatively easily06:04
HappyFoolsorush20: see here:06:04
HappyFool!recover06:04
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, recover is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows06:04
jcapotedabaR: im following the guide over at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-639a621dfdd2455b114477921b28145252b78050 but i cant find gstreamer0.8-mad in the repository it told me to add06:04
nJesswhere to the shipit CDs ship from?06:04
nJessdo*06:04
dabaRjcapote: well, I mean, add universe and multiverse and everything.06:04
jcapoteyea06:04
dabaRjcapote: for a ready to use sources.list use06:04
dabaR!sources.list06:04
ubotudabaR: No idea06:04
dabaRoh well.06:04
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jcapotei added this06:05
jcapotedeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted06:05
HappyFoolgstreamer0.8-mad is in universe06:05
HappyFooljcapote: no, thats backports06:05
dabaRremove it:)06:05
prodigyCan't connect to server mail.slsk.org:2240 (-5, 'No address associated with hostname')06:05
jcapoteoh06:05
dabaRadd universe06:05
HappyFooljcapote: you need archive.ubuntu.com06:05
tritiumph00, it depends on who's here, what type of help people are asking for, and the familiarity of the people in the channel with that subject06:05
ashokpls tell me how to give permissions to a folder06:05
jcapotethats what the documentation told me to install06:05
ashokso that the user can create new files in the folder06:05
jcapoteok thanks guys06:05
HappyFoolashok: 'sudo chmod a+rwx /path/to/folder'06:06
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prodigyneed help with Nicotine badly06:06
dabaRashok: sudo chmod a+w /folder06:06
prodigyon Ubuntu Hoary06:06
dabaRI need to quit smoking too.06:06
prodigythe program06:06
nonedeadcan some one help me06:06
ashokThanks.. it worked06:06
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pepsixsmoking is good for you06:07
HappyFoolnonedead: only if you ask a question06:07
pepsixthey did a study06:07
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ivan_qksup06:07
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nonedeadhow do i install ut2004 on ubuntu06:07
idshi, if i install ubuntu will i receive apt-get packages from the same place as the debian sources with the same maintainance, or is it from different locations?06:07
prodigyCan't connect to server mail.slsk.org:2240 (-5, 'No address associated with hostname')06:07
ivan_qki need help, wich command terminates startx?06:07
nonedeadim new to linux06:08
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ivan_qknonedead, u need instal wine fist06:08
dabaRme too06:08
ivan_qkthen instal ut2004 from there06:08
prodigyI"m sure there's someone in here experienced with the program Nicotine that can help me run it, isn't there?06:08
HappyFoolivan_qk: you can kill X with Ctl-Alt-Backspace06:08
deFryskprodigy, http://nicotine.thegraveyard.org/06:08
nonedeadi dont know how to install anything in linux06:08
dabaRids: different location06:09
ivan_qkHappyFool, yes, but i wanna kill from console06:09
dabaRdifferent packages06:09
idsdabaR: but the apt-get system is the same?06:09
dabaRit is apt-get yes.06:09
nonedeadhow do i install wine06:09
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dabaRsudo aptitude install wine06:09
deFrysknonedead, sudo apt-get install wine06:09
HappyFoolivan_qk: hmm. 'pkill X' maybe ?06:09
ivan_qksudo apt-get install wine06:09
dabaR!info wine06:09
ubotuwine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB06:09
dabaRin universe, so add universe to your sources.list06:10
idsdabaR: so apt-get packages are maintained by different people than those who maintain debian?06:10
ivan_qkHappyFool, dunno, another solution?06:10
HappyFoolivan_qk: you tried that? ;)06:10
djpdoes nautilus cd writing not work under hoary? i just tried to use it (i normally use cdrecord), but it keeps asking me to insert a disc into the drive!06:10
dabaRids: apt-get is copnfigurable to get packages from where you tell it to.06:10
ashokwhenever i open my system monitor, i see that my swap memory is never used. pls tell me why06:10
dabaRids: your ubuntu apt-get should/will be configured to get the packages from teh ubuntu servers.06:10
ivan_qklol06:11
ivan_qkok06:11
HappyFoolivan_qk: try 'ps aux|grep X' and then 'kill <pid>' where pid is whatever you saw previously06:11
deFryskdjp, where else to write it on ?06:11
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ompaulashok, because you have not got a high enough load on the machine, i.e. your working well within the limits of the machine06:11
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nonedeadwhere do i get wine06:11
djpdeFrysk: the disc is in the drive!06:12
tritiumnonedead, universe06:12
nonedeadwhat06:12
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deFryskdjp, ooh06:12
djpdeFrysk: any ideas?06:12
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nonedeadwhat is the univerce06:12
tritium!repositories06:12
ubotuwell, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:12
deFryskdjp, try another disc ?06:12
tritiumsee that above, nonedead regarding adding repositories06:12
HappyFoolhmm. according to this there's a ut2004 for linux anyway: http://www.unrealtournament.com/ut2004/downloads.php06:13
HappyFoolor is that just the game server?06:13
djpdeFrysk: no, done that. it is a nautilus issue i gather. i can write to disc using cdrecord so just wondered if anyone knew how to get nautilus working iz all...06:13
nJessthere is a ut for linux happyfool06:13
nJessi have it06:13
Dr_Willistheres a native port of ut2004 i do belive06:13
nonedeadthe install dvd is compatable for linux06:13
nJessbut i can't make it work in ubuntu06:13
HappyFoolthe demo download is tiny for linux/mac compared to windows. weird06:14
Dr_Willisthe installer on the cds of ut2004 worked - but had a few little oddieits. :P06:14
nonedeadit has win and lin install on one disk06:14
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prodigyokay, I visited the nicotine website and I got a server to connect to but it's telling me INVALIDPASS06:14
deFryskdjp, remove the disc , reinsert it and let nautilus writer open itself and try again06:14
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vinboyhow do I install eclipse?06:14
deFryskso close nautilus writer first06:14
prodigyit doesn't even ask me for my password before it says invalidpass06:15
prodigywhy?06:15
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deFryskprodigy, you can fill it in in prefs - server06:15
AntinomyCan someone tell me what Kebuntu is?06:16
prodigyhow do I do that?06:16
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deFryskprodigy, just check the settings properly ok ?06:16
deFrysksettings in nicotine that is06:16
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Mikshow can i change the font color in the gnome panel?06:16
HappyFoolAntinomy: kubuntu is kde-ified ubuntu - i don't know 'kebuntu'06:16
AntinomyHappyFool: my god, I misspelled it. Forgive me?06:17
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prodigyI have checked the settings and set up a username and password06:17
AntinomyHappyFool: is it worth using? Will it install (unlike Ubu?)06:17
guieyyeyeyeyeyyeyeyyyy06:17
deFryskprodigy, then i do not know, works fine here :(06:17
HappyFoolAntinomy: it uses the same kernel / system libraries /etc as ubuntu06:17
dabaRvinboy: you use the eclipse.org site06:17
HappyFoolAntinomy: only the desktop environment is different (i.e., kde, not gnome)06:18
dabaRwtf is this nicotine thing?06:18
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=== Topic (#ubuntu): set by Amaranth at Fri Jul 22 18:47:01 2005
(Seveas/#ubuntu) and if you have such a reason: use make-kpkg07:01
(Chris_Tucker/#ubuntu) Seveas, i was told debain has the realtime linux stuff and that that allows me to set a cpu precentage07:01
(Seveas/#ubuntu) NEVER use make/make install directly07:02
(nJess/#ubuntu) okay07:02
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(HappyFool/#ubuntu) Chris_Tucker: i think you'll need a rtlinux for hard realtime07:02
(nJess/#ubuntu) what is the command to wipe out hda207:02
(nJess/#ubuntu) ?07:02
(nikkia/#ubuntu) Chris_Tucker: if you mean realtime-lsm, it doesn't07:02
nikkiaerm, ubuntu doesn't, that is07:02
SeveasChris_Tucker, but Ubuntu does not include the realtime stuff patches to the kernel07:02
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HappyFoolChris_Tucker: i don't think normal linux supports hard real-time07:02
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SeveasnJess, mkfs can put a new filesystem on it (like format does on windows)07:02
nJessok07:03
Seveaseverett_: You can find compilation instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto07:03
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sorush20Seveas, whawt do I do when I have logged in via the live cd...07:03
KageKeeperwow..lots of people07:03
Seveassorush20, first try: sudo fdisk -l07:04
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Seveasif the information it gives is correct, you should follow wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringGrubAfterInstallingWindows07:04
Seveasthat page gives instructions for manually installing grub from the live CD07:04
KageKeeperok..I have a quesion concerning sound. I have read several things on the forums and the wiki and still no luck. For some reason I have no /dev/dsp or /dev/snd....?07:04
SeveasKageKeeper, what kind of soundcard do you have?07:05
SeveasI bet Audigy07:05
dabaR$2007:05
HappyFoolzim dollars? ;)07:05
KageKeeperSB Live 24 bit07:06
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SeveasKageKeeper, same difference (in this area)07:06
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ArthurChapelKageKeeper: what does cat /proc/asound/cards say?07:06
AndaresHow do I correct this problem?07:06
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KageKeeperI have no /proc/asound07:06
AndaresIn file included from /usr/include/sys/stat.h:105,07:06
Andares                 from <stdin>:1:07:06
Andares/usr/include/bits/stat.h:70: error: field `st_atim' has incomplete type07:06
Andares/usr/include/bits/stat.h:71: error: field `st_mtim' has incomplete type07:06
Andares/usr/include/bits/stat.h:72: error: field `st_ctim' has incomplete type07:06
dabaRjeran gets no money from me....07:07
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tforthow do you disable GDM so that i can just start in terminal and startx?07:07
Andaresgulp.07:07
SeveasAndares, NEVER!! paste in here07:07
dabaRAndares: that is not enough for that.07:07
HappyFoolAndares: please don't paste here07:07
AndaresGulp!07:07
djpsorry, i had to disappear and feed to family... did anybody have any idea if cd writing under nautilus is broken at the moment with hoary?07:07
LinuxJonestfort, update-rc.d -f gdm remove07:07
dabaRAndares: you can use pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl, or #flood07:07
SeveasKageKeeper, can you paste the output of the following command on a pastebin please: lspci && lsmod07:07
tfortkill thanks linux07:07
dabaRdjp: no it is not07:07
tfortk07:08
AndaresI thought 5 lines was acceptable?07:08
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dabaRAndares: what are you compiling?07:08
AndaresAnyway, http://rafb.net/paste/results/Hqq5oZ64.html07:08
tfortnow just time to make my openbox default on x07:08
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naliothAndares: 2 lines, more go to #flood or a pastebin, please07:08
tfortLinuxJones, i can do that just in the .xinitrc right/07:08
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Andaresdabar, Nothing, just a test file that only has #include <sys/stat.h> in it.07:08
SeveasAndares, not if it is compiler errors....07:08
sorush20Seveas, I only seem to have one partition...07:08
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Seveassorush20, and is that correct?07:08
Andaresecho '#include <sys/stat.h>' | gcc -c -xc - is what I did.07:08
sorush20no..07:09
djpdabaR: ok thanks. do you have any idea why when i try to write files to a cd, it keeps asking me to insert a blank disc in drive, when one is already inserted?07:09
dabaRis it a rw?07:09
sorush20I should have a swap ubuntu, root ubuntu, and windows xp,07:09
djpdabaR: no07:09
sorush20Seveas, what shoudl i do..07:09
dabaRjust a completely blank cd out tha box?07:09
catolhI installed gnome-bluetooth, but dont i need to install my bluetooth usb adapter? Its a linksys usb thingie.. :o07:09
Seveassorush20, then I am afraid your disk is messed up07:09
KageKeeperSeveas: Posted07:10
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dabaRcatolh: does it work?07:10
Seveassorush20, can you paste the output of sudo fdisk -l on a pastebin please07:10
tfortwhat's a good macro program? want to set a few keys for my openbox07:10
catolhdabaR, well.. started the manager and i am currently scanning for devices. it stops on 5%07:10
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SeveasKageKeeper, it's an Audigy LS :)07:10
dabaRcatolh: then, yeah, you need to install something else.07:10
sorush20Seveas, I will type it out.. because its on the other computer...07:10
catolhdabaR, ever used a linksys usb adapter?07:11
dabaRno. USB != good idea.07:11
dabaRI mean, if you ahve to use it...07:11
catolhI have to use it, i dont have bluetooth on my mainboard07:11
dabaRdjp: completely blank cd out the box? and you have others and tried another disc?07:12
SeveasKageKeeper, audigy drivers are a bit of a problem. I cannot help you very much because i don't have any experience with it myself. But I do know that some people on the forums got it to work. You can search there for 'Audigy driver install' or open a new topic.07:12
KageKeeperSeveas: Thank you. I will search for that. :)07:12
dabaRcatolh: well, its an adapter, did you plug/ turn on another bt device you are going to connect?07:12
catolhyep07:13
dabaRand its discoverable, everything set up?07:13
catolhyeah07:13
dabaRnice07:13
djpdabaR: yep. keep getting message when i choose to write to disc, "Insert blank disc Please put a blank disc, with at least 13 MB free, into the drive."07:14
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AndaresHere's a glibc fix: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-hacker/2003-01/msg00003.html07:14
AndaresApparently glibc is _built improperly_.07:14
dabaRdjp: I had some issues too with the rw discs, dunno...file a bug?07:15
HappyFoolAndares: sorry, what's the problem again?07:15
SeveasAndares, so you should for now simply include time.h manually :)07:15
SeveasAndares, this will be fixed when Ubuntu updates glibc07:16
AndaresSeveas, I can't! I'm installing Enlightenment and I'm not about to rewrite their stuff.07:16
djpdabaR: looks that way... thanks anyway07:16
tfortwhat's a good keybinding program?07:16
AndaresOkay, that's good. Right now I'll just patch it.07:16
Seveashmm, wait... patch is from 200307:16
HappyFoolAndares: i don't get that error here07:16
Seveasshould be fixed already07:17
HappyFoolAndares: the test command in that message works for me07:17
Seveasand indeed, /me gets no error at all...07:17
sorush20Seveas, Disk /dev/hda: 163.9 GB 163ect.. 86 heads 15 sectors/track, 248196 cylinders, units = cylinders of 1290*512 = 660480, Device, /dev/hda1, boot, *, Start, 1, End, 208090, blocks, 134217727+ id, 4 System , Fat 16 <32M, Disk /dev/hda1: 137.4GB 137438952960 bytes, 86 heads, 15 sectors/track, 208089 cylinders, units = clylinders of 1290*512=660480 bytes, device /dev/hdalp1, boot, *, start, 1, End, 208090, Blocks, 134217727+,07:17
SeveasAndares, which version of glibc do you use07:17
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HappyFoolhmm, interesting, zope needs older python07:18
sorush20Seveas, there seemes to be two boot partitions... and there seemes to be something really wrong.. abouttheir arragnement....07:18
dabaRhaha,, funny story, some guy comes to #debian, and cant get help so he gets frustrated, and they tell him to f off, and so he says, ok now that Ive wasted my and your time, Im off to work. And one of the guys there says, "Ok, dude, dont be stingy with the fries..."lol...07:18
dabaRtotal burn.07:19
Seveassorush20, if that is the complete output of sudo fdisk -l, your disk is messed up.... try manually installing grub on it (from that wiki url i gave) and see whether that helps...07:19
dabaR@seveas: whats up?07:19
dabaRcome back down...07:19
SeveasdabaR, the roof is up07:19
sorush20Seveas, where is the uri.. again..07:19
dabaRso is the sunl~;)07:19
Seveassorush20, wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringGrubAfterInstallingWindows07:20
SeveasdabaR, if you say so :)07:20
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dabaRSeveas: you get the sun metaphore, icarus and stuff?:) ok enough about that.07:20
catolhDoes gnome-bluetooth support usb bluetooth adapters?07:21
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ashokfolk, while booting, sometimes ubuntu displays "critical temperature reached" , is there something i can do regarding this ?07:21
catolhThis is all pretty new to me, since i recently jumped to ubuntu from winxp.. :o07:21
djpcatolh: yes07:21
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Seveasashok, move to the north pole? Or update your drivers/disaple temperature stuff if this is an incorrect reading.07:22
sorush20Seveas, this uri does not exsist, wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringGrubAfterInstallingWindows07:22
catolhdjp, do you know what i need to do to make it work? I've installed gnome-bluetooth via the package manager, and i've connected the adapter to my usb port (it's detected in the device manager). Any idea what else needs to be done?07:22
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Seveassorush20, crap, someone must have changed it07:23
Seveashang on07:23
ashokits not incorrect reading, my laptop shuts down immdtly07:23
Seveassorush20, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows07:23
Seveasashok, so the laptop is really that hot..?07:23
ashokYes07:24
swarmwhy in hoary ubuntu /etc/esound/esd.conf has auto_spawn set to 0 and audio players doesn't work while setting auto_spawn to 1 all works? Is a default feature of to make audio players not working or I have missed something?07:24
Seveasashok, and it gets that hot during a cold boot ?!?07:24
ashoksometimes it shuts down even when i am working07:25
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Seveasashok, I have that on one of my laptops and it's because my fan is too dusty. You should try to clean the fan07:25
hybrid_gothAndares: heh07:25
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ashokoh oki. i shall try that out. thanks for ur help07:26
canatellahi07:26
canatellais the transition to modular Xorg completed ?07:27
AndaresSeveas Andares, which version of glibc do you use07:27
Baalkorhi07:27
AndaresWhat do you mean? libglib, libc, etc?07:27
catolhHow do i go about and enabling direct rendering on ubuntu?07:28
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erchachehi07:28
erchachei have a lot of problems to install a hp dl145 with ubuntu 45 via netboot pxe07:28
Baalkor(For the Direct rendering : just type glxinfo @ grep direct for know if Direct rendeing is enable07:28
erchacheis it a bug or what?07:28
swarmcatolh: xorg.conf Section "Module" ... load "dri"07:29
erchachebecause i install my own apache server to make mirror distro and doesnt runs07:29
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AndaresSeveas, I use libc6 and glib2.07:29
DekaPinkMmmm... Apache.07:29
catolhswarm, did a whereis xorg.. didnt find.. :o07:29
DekaPinkI used to run it on windows. :307:29
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swarmcatolh: /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:30
SeveasAndares, that gives no information at all...07:30
catolhthanks07:30
razersluthi i just tried to login on soulseek using nicotine and i got this error07:30
razerslut12:29:32 Can not log in, reason: INVALIDPASS07:30
razerslutanyone know why?07:30
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AndaresSeveas, Well, what information would be useful?07:30
KyralWrong password?07:30
sorush20Seveas, i don't follow the wiki file... its talking about an fstabs... where do I find this anyways....07:30
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kolcvk!mplayer07:31
ubotuit has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto07:31
Kyralsorush20, /etc/fstab07:31
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SeveasAndares, dpkg -l *glibc*07:31
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Seveassorush20, are you at the prerequisites part?07:31
catolhweird, there is a "load "dri"" in xorg.conf.. and then i checked if direct rendering was enabled with "glxinfo | grep direct", and it said "direct rendering: no".. new drivers?.. :o07:32
razerslutkyral: im sure that is what it is but i dont know why i am getting it.07:32
AndaresSeveas, http://rafb.net/paste/results/UIAQF470.html07:32
sorush20Seveas yes..07:32
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SeveasAndares, sorry my mistake: dpkg -l *libc6* and please maximize your terminal before typing it07:33
AndaresOkay.07:34
teferiboo, linux-image-2.6.12-4, but still no linux-restricted-modules-2.6.1207:34
teferioh well.07:34
Bitmastrohi all07:34
Seveassorush20, simply read on and follow the instructions. Ask here if you don't understand something or somthing goes wrong07:34
AndaresSeveas, http://rafb.net/paste/results/eZmsUH71.html07:34
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tforti'm working with keybinding but i can't seem tog et pgdn tow ork in openbox , anyone have any ideas what it may be?07:35
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Seveasbrb...07:35
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catolh*.run files.. executables?07:36
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Andarescatolh, I don't think os.07:36
Andares*so07:36
Bitmastroanyone here with a davicom network card?07:36
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HappyFoolAndares: looks like you have the right libc to me07:36
HappyFoolcatolh: might be. what does 'file <filename>' tell you?07:36
catolhAndares, the "new ATI driver installer" is a *.run file.. :o07:36
Andaresyep....07:36
Andarescatolh, try chmod +x filehere and then ./filehere in console07:37
catolhk07:37
HappyFoolcatolh: have you tried installing the ubuntu provided drivers?07:37
HappyFool!ati07:37
ubotufrom memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:37
sweetpwhy doesn't "sudo apt-get update firefox" work?07:37
HappyFoolcatolh: read that wiki page for more info07:37
catolhHappyFool, ok ill check it out07:37
tfortsweetp, upgrade maybe?07:37
sweetpah07:37
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sweetpsilly me07:38
chrissturmsweetp: its apt-get upgrade, and doesnt take a parameter07:38
sweetpThe following packages have been kept back:07:38
sweetp  mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support07:38
sweetp0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.07:38
HappyFoolsweetp: latest firefox has some issues07:38
sweetpah ok, thanks07:39
sorush20Seveas, when I type the following mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/work as in the uri you mentioned I get the message that mount:you must specity the filesystem type07:39
tfortdon't deal with it, i have those as well all the time, they're blocked i believe07:39
HappyFoolsweetp: though i don't know why your apt-get isn't upgrading, that's kind of weird07:39
sorush20how can I resolve thsi...07:39
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sweetpi upgraded everthing last night07:39
HappyFoolAndares: so that gcc command (from the redhat mailing list) gives you an error?07:39
sweetpbut FF wasn't upgraded07:39
sweetp:(07:39
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thesaltydogsomebody knows where can I get the patch for gnome-app-install in Hoary? It doesn't work..07:39
tfortanyone here use openbox07:39
kangtQchi there is ther anyone using latex please ?07:39
sweetpthesaltydog: where does it get stuck?07:40
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tomikihello07:40
HappyFoolkangtQc: i do, though not much on ubuntu07:40
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basti!tell basti about ati07:40
kangtQcok HappyFool  do you know how i can use accent with latex ? i have to write in french07:40
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tomikiy have one portatil pc p2 36607:40
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Baalkorascii07:41
HappyFoolkangtQc: i think it's just \'a or \`a ?07:41
thesaltydogsweetp, it runs, and goes in an infinet loop, without display anything, with the clock-cursor-icon running07:41
tomikiand want to install ubuntu , but my pc have not a cd rom07:41
HappyFoolkangtQc: also, if you use the right package, you can put in the characters in as is -- i don't remember the details07:41
kangtQcok there's not an easiest way ?07:41
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tomikibut y have de iso in the hd07:41
kangtQcok HappyFool gonna check07:41
sweetpwierd, mie does that too07:41
sweetpmine*07:41
Bitmastrotomiki what os are you currently running?07:42
Une-ga-dihignomebaker will not do anything without crashing, anybody recommend something else?07:42
dabaRtomiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetbootInstallHowto?highlight=%28netinstall%2907:42
thesaltydogsweetp, someone told me there is a patch somewhere..07:42
sweetpand add remove applications gets stuck, any ideas?07:42
AndaresHappyFool Andares: so that gcc command (from the redhat mailing list) gives you an error?07:42
AndaresYes.07:42
Bitmastroune-  use k3b07:42
AndaresThe same error.07:42
sweetpoh, ill have to look07:42
tomiki[bitmastro]  my pc its running win xp07:42
Bitmastrouse the grub xo method on the link given by dabelt07:43
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Bitmastro*grub xp07:43
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djpdabaR: solution to my problem with nautilus and writing to cd. i needed to use configuration editor and enable burnproof and overburn. all working now. though you might like to know...07:43
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dabaRcool07:43
sorush20guys is there a way of backing up partiotion table and boot record so that I don't get into this mess again..07:44
dabaRok, Im off07:44
Bitmastroi have a lot of tulip_stop_rxtx() in my dmesg (davicom card) and my ethernet is half working... any suggestion?07:44
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sweetpim off too, thanks for your help07:45
sweetpgood luck saltydoy07:45
sweetpdog*07:45
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catolhfinally, direct rendering enabled.. thanks HappyFool07:46
catolh:)07:46
HappyFoolcatolh: cool07:46
catolhAnd now to get cedega working.. :s07:46
thesaltydogsweetp, bye07:46
HappyFoolAndares: odd07:47
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Andares>.< This is so stupid. Either I am going to figure out how to fix this header file or I'll install a different distro.07:47
HappyFoolAndares: maybe you need the linux-headers package too07:47
HappyFoolAndares: but that's a complete guess07:47
HappyFoolAndares: and probably wrong07:47
AndaresHmm... I don't think so.07:47
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HappyFoolAndares: what does gcc --version|head -1 say ? and 'uname -r' ?07:48
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AndaresHappyFool, 3.3.507:49
AntinomyFOlks, my ubuntu install is hanging at the "Ubuntu linux for human beings" screen07:49
dmouritsendkhave anybody here tried using gnome-vfs/nautilus to mount a webdav resource?07:49
Antinomyideas?07:50
nubbeI got trouble playing some quicktimes, especially hi-quality, I got totem-xine and w32codecs. Need some help07:50
HappyFoolAndares: and (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2) ?07:50
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Andares2.6.10-5-38607:50
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AndaresHappyFool, 2.6.10-5-386 for uname -r07:51
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catolhanyone installed the Cedega tgz package on ubuntu before?07:53
HappyFoolAndares: odd. we seem to have the same gcc and libc. could you just install linux-headers-386 and see if it makes a difference? I can't think of any other differences07:53
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tomikihi07:54
basticould someone please help me installing/configuring the ati drivers?07:54
tomikii have a portatil but dont have a cdrom07:54
ompaulsorush20, there is a way to do it on other distros, I can't find that way atm, I will keep looking if you want07:54
tomikii need07:54
tomikia disket07:54
tomikior command for install07:54
ompaulthere is my answer:)07:55
AndaresOkay.07:55
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tomikiubuntus of hd07:55
poningrutomiki: whats a portatil?07:55
bastilaptop I think ;P07:55
tomikithosiba07:55
tomikiportege07:55
tomikibut i need07:55
HappyFoolAndares: you did install the 'build-essential' package, right? to get gcc etc.07:55
poningruoh gotcha07:55
tomikithe command07:55
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tomikior the disket07:55
AndaresHmm...07:56
AndaresI got gcc...07:56
tomikifor install ubuntus07:56
tomikiof my hd07:56
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bagpuss_thecatis there any recommended bootsplash system to use with Hoary? I've had a look at upower, usplash, fbsplash, and splashy, but none seem to be _the_ one to use07:56
poningrutomiki: hold on I think there was something about install off of a network07:56
poningrudont remember anything about installing from a hd though07:56
AndaresErm.. nope.07:56
Andares1 sec, lemme get that.07:56
HappyFoolAndares: try installing build-essential -- maybe there's some missing dependency07:56
ompaul!grub floppy07:56
ubotusomebody said grub floppy was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy?highlight=%28floppy%29%7C%28grub%2907:56
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tomiki[poningru] 07:56
black-whispbasti: for gamin g purpose?07:56
AndaresHappyFool, k.07:57
tomikii am other person07:57
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tomikii am one friend07:57
tomiki;)07:57
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black-whispbasti do you need the ati driver for gaming pupose?07:57
bastiblack-whisp, well, for getting an usable desktop, now my resolution is shit07:57
bastiand I cant change it07:57
black-whispbasti okay try: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx07:58
bastidone it07:58
AndaresHappyFool, still broken.07:58
bastiand I changed my xorg.conf07:58
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bastifglrxinfo07:59
bastidisplay: :0.0  screen: 007:59
bastiOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org07:59
poningrutomiki: here is what I found07:59
poningruhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsServerNetworkInstall?highlight=%28network%29%7C%28install%2907:59
black-whispbasti: hmm try at the #ati channel07:59
basti:S07:59
black-whispthey might be able to help there basti, im not a ati wiz. sorry.  :S07:59
tomikithank you07:59
AntinomyDoes anyone know a command that will let me launch the GUI from the command line?08:00
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bastiI installed the nvidia driver on my brothers pc. so much simpler....08:00
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bastiI hope ati burn in hell for this crappy driver08:00
catolhso games run like shit in wine right?08:00
nikkiabasti, its not like the fact that the ati drivers are terrible is some big secret :)08:01
m0r0njust install winxp for gaming08:01
catolhand i need to pay for Winex (cedega) to get a useable performance?.. :\08:01
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nikkiabasti, unless you bought the card more than 5 years ago, you should have known about it :)08:01
paulproteuscatolh: I don't think that's correct.08:01
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basti;(08:01
m0r0nYou do need two operating system, ubuntu and winxp08:01
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catolhpaulproteus, so.. wine is useable?..08:01
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BlazingSteakSaucanyone know how to force a fat32 hd to mount probperly i got the ntfs one mounted but the commands for the fat32 one did not work it shows it but not the files in it08:02
HappyFoolAndares: do you have CFLAGS or any other variables like that set?08:02
poningrutry mounting again some where else08:03
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poningruits most likely something simple08:03
coreyois there a way to tell apt to grab and download it only without checking dependencies?08:03
BlazingSteakSaucit mounts in media08:03
BlazingSteakSaucboth do08:03
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bz0b hello fellow ubuntu users, i just loaded up a live disk of ubuntu 5.04, and i was wondering, how do i get root?08:03
basticoreyo, -f08:03
poningrubz0b: sudo <command>08:03
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paulproteusbz0b: sudo su -08:03
bz0bah, i see thanks08:04
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poningruwell yeah I guess what paulproteus said makes sense08:04
nikkiapaulproteus: sudo -s is a better suggestion08:04
coreyobasti: apt-get -f --download-only <package> still complains about dependencies08:04
poningruasheesh since when do you hang out here?08:04
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nikkiapaulproteus: or if people want the equivalent of su -, then sudo -i08:04
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paulproteussudo -i !08:04
catolhhow do i install the activex plugin for firefox?08:04
paulproteusI'll start using that in the future.08:05
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poningrucatolh: hold on let me get the help link08:05
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nemik hello, i'm looking for some advice on a problem with ubuntu. i use older pentium computers (PII) that query a phone via serial commands ever 10 seconds and then if there is a message there, they send it via cURL to a PHP script. i install ubuntu with server minimal option but find that it loses permissions on folders often and the daemon then no longer functions correctly. any help?08:05
nikkiapaulproteus: if people ask about editing files as root, sudo -e {filename} is a good one to remember too08:05
BlazingSteakSauci used sudo mkdir /media/windows08:05
BlazingSteakSaucsudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=00008:05
BlazingSteakSaucit failed to work08:06
hybrid_gothis it in /etc/mtab and /etc/fstab?08:06
catolhponingru, thanks :)08:06
poningrucatolh: http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/plugin.htm#download08:07
paulproteusnikkia: Interesting.08:07
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catolhponingru, thanks again :)08:08
poningrunp08:08
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BlazingSteakSaucanyone know of another way to mount it?08:09
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poningruthere is a mozillazine forum thread about help with activex plugin08:09
poningruforum.mozillazin.org08:09
liranis it possible to put debian repositories of apt for ubuntu?08:09
poningruerr08:09
poningruforum.mozillazine.org08:09
poningruliran: its possible but not reccomended08:09
doonzhey just mounted a ext3 drive but its got a lock on it and i cant do anything to that drive08:09
liranponingru: its just that debian has so many :p08:10
catolhponingru, weird.. tried out the precompiled plugin and i got "Installation of npmozax.dll failed. Error code -202"08:10
poningrucatolh: you do realize that this is win only08:10
catolhoh..08:10
naliothliran: possible but not advised. debian pkgs can break ubuntu08:11
catolhheh.. didnt know.. :p08:11
poningruoh maybe I should have mentioned that08:11
poningrudoh08:11
poningrusory08:11
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tfortjust wondering08:11
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poningruyeah you can use wine catolh08:11
tforthow do i use the update-rc.d to add a daemon?08:11
tforti want to put mpd on it to startup everytime08:11
tfortnot use to debian's style of doign this08:11
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poningrucatolh: hold on08:12
zukalkdoes anyone know where the gnome-panel definitions are stored? the drawers i have, their position, etc08:12
tfortnvm, just ifgured it out08:12
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Juhazzukalk, gconf08:13
DekaPinkMy friends won't listen to me and try Ubuntu... damn them... xD08:13
zukalkJuhaz, thanks08:13
BlazingSteakSauclol08:13
naliothDekaPink: thats' their loss08:13
DekaPinkIt's my fault in one case... I got my friend on Fedora once, but I hardly knew more than he did about it... So he kind of... equates linux with not working.08:14
BlazingSteakSaucubuntu is cool just need to get something working for it to pwn08:14
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poningrucatolh: yeah sorry you have to use win for that08:14
catolhso, activex in linux is not a possibility?08:15
catolh:o08:15
poningruyeah sorry08:15
Seveascatolh, indeed08:15
hondjecatolh: you can use cedega08:15
hondjebut it's not free :(08:15
poningruum thats not free08:15
naliothDekaPink: show your friend a LiveCD08:15
poningrutry wine they have an ok experimental implementation going on08:15
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catolhI just installed wine tho, and tried to install steam. But it said i needed mozilla's activex plugin and "tried" to download, but ended in an error08:16
poningruah ic08:16
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gigaclonI had that same problem08:16
catolhso im basically screwed?..:p08:16
DekaPinknalioth: I put Ubuntu on his computer, but then he just moaned about how he'd never use it. xD And my one other friends won't even have live cds shown to them... I d'know why... o.O Strange bunch of windowsholics....08:16
poningrucatolh: yeah sorry08:16
coreyowhat's the name of the utility that will spit out X keycodes as you type them?08:17
tommi--Hi. My computer broke, probably motherboard or processor, and I'm thinking of changing from Intel P IV to amd 64. Do I have to reinstall ubuntu?08:17
BlazingSteakSaucwere is there a dowload of the debian wine binary winehq links failed to load for me08:17
catolhponingru, so basically the only thing i need to get steam working is cedega?08:17
hybrid_gothtommi--:  yes08:17
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poningrucatolh: yeah08:17
hybrid_gothfor 64bit08:17
poningrubut just use winxp for that08:17
poningrutommi--: if you dont wanna use 64bit then I dont think so08:17
catolhok, will do08:18
poningrubut not sure08:18
poningrucatolh: good luck08:18
DekaPinkBlazingSteakSauc: sudo apt-get install wine08:18
catolhponingru, thanks :)08:18
BlazingSteakSauci'll try that but i still got prblems with it even after08:18
BlazingSteakSauclike the isp is gay and its the only one i got at the moment08:19
DekaPinkBlazingSteakSauc, I'm sure that despite your ISPs faults, it has no such sexual orientation. :P08:19
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BlazingSteakSaucis not the sexual kinda gay the kinda gay is in it freakin sucks08:20
nonedeadwhere do i get wine08:20
DekaPinkBlazingSteakSauc, the word gay is not synonymous with sucking. :P08:20
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BlazingSteakSauci got no choice in using some other isp though right now08:20
tommi--Argh, I just a month ago did reinstall due to dependency problem. What processor should I buy? I haven't looked at those for over a year so I don't know. I live in Finland so everything is 4-10 months behind usa in computer technologies.08:20
BlazingSteakSaucit is in that kinda of way08:20
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bz0banybody watch this yet: http://www.hackingdefined.com/movies/whax-aircrack-wep.html08:21
bastiis there any point in updating my kernel? I got 2.6.10-5-38608:21
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zukalkif i make a copy of my ~/.gconf/apps/panel/, can i, let's say, delete everything that's in my panel, and then restore it with the backup of the folder?08:21
razersluthi, what is the best mp3/music player to use in ubuntu?08:21
nonedeadwhere di i get wine08:21
naliothrazerslut: that is a subjective question08:21
razerslutwell let us go with opinions08:22
bz0bexuse me, but what is ubuntu's package manager, like the program that updates and downloads and installs pacakges for me? e.g. yum is red hat and fedora08:22
razersluthehe08:22
razerslutrhythmbox does not play mp3 without a plugin08:22
mjrrazerslut, rhythmbox (the "Music player") is the default and I find it quite all right08:22
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nonedeadhey i need help08:22
razersluti have heard of xmms many times and continue to hear about it08:22
naliothbz0b: apt-get or its frontend synaptic08:22
niccotommi-- wha tha heck are you talking about? i would think that usa is behind in computer tecnologies than europe / scandinavia.08:22
razerslutmjr: how do i make it play mp3's though?08:22
nikkiarazerslut: i really wouldn't recommend xmms08:22
catolhi get these annoying sounds some times.. just suddenly a "pling pling!".. im not doing anything, is it because the trashbin has stuff in it?08:22
nalioths_dograzerslut: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support08:22
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mjrrazerslut, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:22
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razerslutthank you08:22
Dr_Willisyea.. what they said. :P08:22
NoOnehi !08:23
nikkiaxmms is very closely tied to the OSS sound system, and as modern linux systems use alsa not OSS, it tends to be buggy and crash08:23
nonedeadi need help08:23
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tommi--nicco: I'm sorry, I don't know what I wrote. I meant Finland is behind usa.08:23
Seveasnikkia, nonsense, xmms can use alsa or esd too...08:23
nikkiaSeveas: both of which are VERY buggy output plugins08:23
Dr_Willisthe 'beep media player' is not too bad. ive had no problems with xmms however.08:23
paulproteusquodlibet is great!08:23
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nikkiaSeveas: xmms is closely tied to OSS, many of the developers are the same between the two products08:24
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tommi--nicco: I should've read your text twice.08:24
Seveasnikkia, they work fine for both xmms and beep08:24
BlazingSteakSaucgah i need a new isp08:24
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tommi--nicco: Well, I I have thought that's the way, at least in prices. But never mind, I still don't what to buy :)08:24
phixionhowdy ubuntians :)08:24
nonedeadWHERE DO I GET WINE08:24
Seveasphixion, that is ubuntutites08:24
nikkiaSeveas: not here, xmms will randomly break up with alsa as the output, and just plain crash every 2-3 minutes with arts or esd as the output plugin08:24
naliothnonedead: that is uncalled for08:24
phixion:D08:24
Seveasnonedead, stop shouting08:24
naliothnonedead: all your software comes from using synaptic08:25
zukalknonedead, no need to shout. someone already told you that, but you didn't pay attention08:25
Seveasnonedead, and enable universe & multiverse and use synaptic08:25
bagpuss_thecatnonedead: is that a statement, or a question?08:25
bagpuss_thecatproper grammar usually helps08:25
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BlazingSteakSauclooks like a question to me08:25
phixionSeveas, how do i enable universe & multiverse in synaptic?08:26
Seveasphixion: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:26
phixionthanks :)08:26
SeveasDekaPink, Ubuntu Lite is Ubuntu on P2 200 + 64mb or less08:26
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DekaPinkSeveas: Oooooh. Okay.08:27
Seveasordinary ubuntu won't run nicely on such machines :)08:27
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jcapoteanyone here using a synaptics touchpad?08:27
BlazingSteakSaucit has08:27
Dr_Willishow about UbuntuUltraLigh :P08:27
BlazingSteakSauci ran reg ubuntu on a 100mhz p1 with 64 meg ram for the hell of it08:27
jcapotei was wondering if there was a way to configure it08:27
Seveasjcapote, I use it on 2 laptops, worked out of te box08:27
Deterministi cant seem to be able to add the winxp entry under grub's menu.lst , any ideas on how this could be done? winxp is on hdb108:27
BlazingSteakSaucit may run slow but no errors08:27
jcapoteyea but i dont like the out of the box config08:28
jcapotei want to turn off "touch to click"08:28
Seveasjcapote, then you need to edit xorg.conf08:28
jcapoteok08:28
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SeveasDeterminist, in private chat08:29
DeterministSeveas, thank you sir08:29
niccotommi-- you wrote that finnland is behind usa in computer technologies and i dont think thats the case. i think that we in europe and scandinavia is superior in computer technologies than usa thei are kinda stone age in my opinion. im running on a amd 64 3400+ proccessor. works fine. shouldt really matter what proccessor you buy to run ubuntu on.08:29
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goofyheadedpunkI'm trying to get an rsync server running on my box, and I'd like it to come up at boot time. I run hoary, and have done very little modifications to the bootscipts. I've got a proper rsyncd.conf and I've edited /etc/defaults/rsync so that RSYNC_ENABLE=inetd. When I run /etc/init.d/rsync restart && ps -A | grep rsync I get nothing. /etc/init.d/rsync is edited so that RSYNC_ENABLE=true ( there are few comments in the file, so I 08:30
Dr_WillisI got ubuntu on my laptop with a TUrion cpu.08:30
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goofyheadedpunkStarting the daemon manually from the command line works, but that's a pain.08:30
roscohi08:30
Seveasnikkia, I missed your last message. But these crashes are not xmms' fault as it works fine on all systems i've seen so far...08:31
chrissturmgoofyheadedpunk, the rsync doesnt need to run. its started by inetd08:31
kyncanigoofyheadedpunk: you've setup inetd (and you should not), that means inetd will start rsync when needed08:31
jcapoteSeveas: you can also configure it through synclient08:31
jcapote:)08:31
Seveasjcapote, ah08:31
nikkiaSeveas: so its not xmms' fault when xmms just ups and dies? sorry, don't believe you, i've seen erratic behaviour from xmms on any non-OSS sound system since what seems like forever, and not just on my hardware either08:31
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nikkiaSeveas: the web is riddled with likewise comments about xmms 'not working properly' on alsa, arts, esd, etc too08:32
HappyFoolhmm. plone.org is not a sterling advertisement for the plone product08:32
DekaPinkHuh... Can I install the latest Firefox somehow? :308:32
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SeveasDekaPink, you shouldn't08:32
roscoI'm planning to install 4 or 5 linux workstations in replacement of w2k, for office and web purposes. Do you think that ubuntu is the good choice to minimize the migration difficulties (for the users ?). And what window manager do you think is the best for old windows users ? (gnome/kde ?)08:32
Seveaslatest official FF and ubuntu packages are buggy08:33
nJessuse KDE08:33
nJesswindows users will adapt better to KDE08:33
bz0bwhat does this mean?08:33
bz0bhttp://www.hackingdefined.com/movies/whax-aircrack-wep.html08:33
bz0bnvm that link08:33
DekaPinkSeveas: Okey dokey. :308:33
bz0b  No volume groups found08:33
bz0b/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot: Cannot find LVM device08:33
bz0bFailed to create initrd image.08:33
bz0bdpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 (--configure):08:33
bz0b subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 208:33
bz0bErrors were encountered while processing:08:33
bz0b linux-image-2.6.10-5-38608:33
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Seveasfool08:33
Seveasnever paste in here08:33
DekaPinkI find I like ghome better than KDE~08:33
goofyheadedpunkI see I'm confused then. Hehe, I read inetd in /etc/defaults/rsync as initd. Hehe. Woops, thanks.08:33
goofyheadedpunkkyncani: Why shouldn't inetd spawn rsyn?08:33
BlazingSteakSaucwere can i get a wine version that works for 5.0408:34
mjrrosco, yes, and the latter is a matter of taste, which in my case goes towards gnome08:34
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demirghi everybody, can anyone show me a tried howto about installing nvidia geforce ddr 256 driver at ubuntu???08:34
DekaPinkBlazingSteakSauc, well, you said that you tried to get the debian one from the site... they have a ubuntu section with instructions? :308:34
BlazingSteakSaucthe link on winehq failed08:35
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BlazingSteakSaucit just sent me to the doc08:35
raven3x7hello08:35
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nikkiademirg: just follow any of the howto's on the subject, but make sure you do not get the latest driver, you need the last non-7xxx series driver for the Geforce 25608:35
gooktimeAnyone care to recommend a good RSS aggregator?08:36
raven3x7i just noticed that amorok crashes with the nv 6629 driver in ubuntu hoary08:36
raven3x7amarok08:36
BlazingSteakSauci need the download not the doc08:36
razerslutk wiki says i need to install gstreamer0.8-mad to play mp3 files in rhythmbox but that package isnt in synaptic08:36
DekaPinkBlazingSteakSauc,  How is your ISP keeping you from using syanptic and/or apt-get? :p08:36
DekaPinksynaptic*08:37
raven3x7razerslut add repositories08:37
BlazingSteakSaucits a realy dumb isp they had linux version way back but they are pure mac and windows now08:37
raven3x7!repositories08:37
uboturepositories is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:37
osarapikhello, how can i put spanish ""s in the console?08:37
demirgnikkia why not non-7xxx, I tried  7667...08:37
BlazingSteakSaucbrb08:37
bastiif I would like to install the 2.6.11 kernel what would I hae to do?08:37
nikkiademirg: because nvidia no longer support anything older than the geforce 408:37
Seveasosarapik, depends on your keyboard settings08:37
nikkia(and a handful of geforce 2 devices, but not all)08:37
razersluti added repositories and it still is not there08:38
razerslutany ideas?08:38
DekaPinkBlazingSteakSauc, you can still sign into it, I should think....08:38
raven3x7nikkia  i believe its anything older the geforce 208:38
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snickkershey guys. I'm getting an error whenever i try to do something in kde that needs a root password. Example (on a newly installed hoary): I click System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup. Enter root password. Error: Failed to run gdmsetup  child terminated with 1 status08:38
nikkiaraven3x7: no, most of the geforce 2 and 3 series are EOL'ed too08:38
raven3x7razerslut you did an apt-get reload?08:38
Seveassnickkers, you do NOT need a root password for that08:38
razerslutno08:38
snickkersseveas: it asks for a password08:38
razerslutis that what i type in the term?08:38
raven3x7razerslut you did an apt-get update sorry08:38
nikkiaraven3x7: there are exceptions on onboard stuff, and pro- cards08:38
Seveassnickkers, in fact, Ubuntu doesn't set one by default and you shouldn't set one yourself08:38
demirgnikkia: thanks, i will try 6111 :)08:38
Seveassnickkers, it needs YOUR password, it's sudo08:39
Seveassnickkers: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:39
BlazingSteakSaucback08:39
razerslutraven3x7: that is what i should type, apt-get update?08:39
snickkersoh, ok. thanks. So, during install (expert install) when it asked for an administration password - what was that?08:39
nonedeadhow do install wine08:39
raven3x7nikkia interesting... i just saw that there were som gf2 cards in thee and supposed that all werew still supported08:39
nJesssudo apt-get install wine08:39
nonedeadi got the first part08:40
nonedeadthanks08:40
Seveassnickkers, ok, expert install does want a root password (on warty)08:40
nikkiaraven3x7: i suspect the ones that are in there are ones that nvidia has some contractual obligation to support :)08:40
DekaPinkBlazingSteakSauc, so you're saying you can't sign on to your ISP in linux?08:40
Seveasbut still the menu uses sudo and that needs a user password NOT the root password08:40
BlazingSteakSaucyup08:40
BlazingSteakSaucits a retarded isp08:40
DekaPinkBlazingSteakSauc, what kind of service is it?08:40
raven3x7razerslut you need to sudo apt-get update or u can use synaptic and push the reload button08:40
BlazingSteakSaucaohell08:40
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snickkersok, so root password is only really for rescue boot (pressing ESC at grub load)?08:40
BlazingSteakSauci told them it sucks and to go some were cheaper and better08:41
DekaPinkBlazingSteakSauc, Oooooh... I don't know anything about them. Heh.08:41
Seveassnickkers, not even for that: if you don't have a root password set, that will auto-login08:41
razerslutgstreamer0.8-mad still isnt in my package list, what should i do?08:41
nonedeadthank you its installing now08:41
nikkiaraven3x7: tbh, its going to be a nightmare for distros like ubuntu that offer a means to install the nvidia drivers08:41
BlazingSteakSaucaohell=aol08:41
Seveasand ESC at grub load has NOTHING to do with Ubuntu passwords...08:41
shanhello everyone :)08:41
Seveasthose are grub passwords08:41
Seveashi Shachaf08:41
Seveasshan*08:41
DekaPinkBlazingSteakSauc, yes, I know. I'm not quite that daft. xD08:41
snickkersahhh ok. cool. Ubuntu is very nicely set up08:41
raven3x7nikkia nvidia supposedly will release legacy drivers for the older cards08:41
Seveassnickkers, it is indeed :)08:41
BlazingSteakSaucsome are08:41
DekaPinkThe only problems I've had with Ubuntu are ones I caused myself. xD08:42
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nikkiaraven3x7: no, their official word is 'use the last 6xxx series driver'08:42
SeveasDekaPink, hehe :)08:42
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nikkiaraven3x7: even if they do release updated 'legacy' drivers, which i doubt, it still means you split the nvidia-glx drivers into two seperate drivers08:42
DekaPinkLike accidentally screwing up gaim... but I fixed that. :308:42
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raven3x7nikkia im sure i read that somewhere on nvidias site maybe though they changed strategy?08:42
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nonedeadhey will i be able to run ut 2004 on wine08:43
DekaPinkNow if I could only figure out how to uninstall crossover office since I don't really have a use for it. o.O08:43
BlazingSteakSaucnvidia drivers are universal as they always have been08:43
alejandroholas08:43
razerslutgstreamer0.8-mad still isnt in my package list, what should i do?08:43
DekaPinknonedead: Isn't there a native linux version of that game?08:43
raven3x7razerslut are you sure?08:43
nikkiaraven3x7: they keep old drivers around, so presumably will offer 6111 for 'ever', but still, it makes nvidia-glx hard to implement08:43
razerslutshould i reboot?08:43
razerslutit isnt on the package list at all, for some reason08:43
raven3x7no wont help08:43
nonedeadi cant get the .sh to run08:43
Seveasrazerslut, never reboot :)08:43
jcapotehow can i make it so that when i close the screen on my laptop, it doesnt lock the laptop08:43
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DekaPinkBlazingSteakSauc, Have you asked around to see if there's a way to get your aol to work? x)08:44
alejandroexit08:44
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raven3x7nikkia actually 7174 is the last to support older cards i blieve08:44
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Seveasrazerslut, enable universe and do apt-get update08:44
BlazingSteakSaucyeah only 2 options so far and both suck08:44
Seveasjcapote, edit /etc/acpi/lid.sh08:44
razerslutseveas:E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:44
razerslutE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:44
catolhis it normal for mplayer to "bork up" if i install a new ati driver?08:45
raven3x7razerslut are you using both synaptic and apt-get? or did u use apt-get without udo?08:45
raven3x7sudo08:45
razersluti did both08:45
razerslutand used sudo08:45
Seveasrazerslut, close synaptic08:46
razerslutseveas: alright, i will never reboot08:46
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ed1trazerslut, is your synaptic package maager open?08:46
razerslutalready closed.08:46
ed1tmanager*08:46
raven3x7razerslut dont use synaptic and apt-get at the same time08:46
snickkersI checked that RootSudo URL you pasted seveas, still didnt address my problem, which still stands (despite my previous misconception about *which* password was being requested)... I'll repeat my question...08:46
Seveasrazerslut, reboots are only neccessary when you do a kernel upgrade08:46
razerslutokay08:46
razerslutgood08:46
razersluti like that08:46
snickkershey guys. I'm getting an error whenever i try to do something in kde that needs a sudo password. Example (on a newly installed hoary): I click System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup. Enter password. Error: Failed to run gdmsetup  child terminated with 1 status08:46
crocodilehello everyone08:46
razerslutalright, the apt-get worked now08:46
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Seveassnickkers, the expert install does not setup sudo properly08:47
Seveasadd yourself to /etc/sudoers as root08:47
razersluthowever, the package i need still is not there08:47
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razerslutany ideas?08:47
raven3x7razerslut try sudo apt-cache search gstreamer and see if you can find gstreamer-mad in the results08:47
Seveasrazerslut, paste your sources.list on a pastebin please08:47
snickkersok. I'm not adverse to a reinstall. as a n00b, is doing a non-expert install a wise move?08:48
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Seveassnickkers, the 'expert' install is not a wise move as n00b. The 'server' and default install are08:48
snickkersok, thanks. Probably best to reinstall to avoid further complications08:49
razerslutseveas: where is this file located?08:49
crocodileI have two NICS in my computer, one connected with cablemodem, and other connected with other computer (win 98). My problem is when two are active, connections not work. Only works if one nic is active. Any idea to solve that problem ?08:49
Seveasbut you should simply setup sudo properly now by adding yourself to /etc/sudoers and this problem will be gone :)08:49
Seveasrazerslut, /etc/apt/sources.list08:49
razerslutk thanks08:49
snickkersok08:49
Seveassnickkers, the line should look like: dennis  ALL=(ALL) ALL08:49
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Seveasreplace dennis with your login name08:49
razerslutseveas: http://pastebin.com/31924708:50
snickkersok, I'm having more trouble. I can't edit sudoers cos i'm not in the sudoers file - chicken/egg problem08:50
Seveasrazerslut, that's not the complete file....08:50
Seveasplease paste the complete file there08:50
snickkersoh its ok, i got it now08:50
Seveassnickkers, you have set a root password, you can use su to become root :)08:51
snickkersyeah, i realsed that a seconds after i said it :P08:51
osarapikanother question, uhm.. to compile a kernel 2.6.12.3, is there some configure file in the web that works well?08:51
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Seveasosarapik, use te ubuntu kernel sources...08:52
Seveasbut 2.6.12 will not work properly on hoary...08:52
snickkersIT WORKED *hugs Seveas* you're a genious - thanks heaps :D08:52
osarapikok, thanks seveas08:52
razersluthttp://pastebin.com/319249 seveas08:52
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Seveasrazerslut, that sources.list dows not include universe, that's why it does not appear :)08:53
Seveasrazerslut, delete all lines from that file and add all lines from paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3808:53
razerslutok, thanks08:54
Seveasthat is a complete listing of all official ubuntu repositories08:54
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snickkersI'm sure I'll be back shortly with more Qs :P08:54
thespiritoftalI have installed amule and want to remove it how can i do that?08:54
icemanAnyone able to give me the pros and con's on going to a 64 bit  system..08:54
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binaicaman: pro, you can add up to 2^64... i think :)08:54
grimsteri get an error "Kernel panic - not syncing: no init found. try passing the init= option to kernel."08:55
Seveasiceman, pro: you're prepared for the next decade of computing. con: lots of proprietary software is still missing (like flash)08:55
icemanbina looking at geting a low end AMD 64 2800 system .... barebones cheap ...08:55
raven3x7nikkia i see what you mean with nvidia-glx. they will need to split it up in two packages i suppose. btw amarok does not work with nv 662908:55
Seveasand con: it's too new to be rock-solid stable (but it's good)08:55
binaiceman: cool08:56
grimsteranyone know what my error means?08:56
HappyFooliceman: what are you planning on using your computer for?08:56
binadoesnt unix time roll over for 32 bit procs in 2038?08:56
binawill 64 bit processors still count up08:56
nJessgrimster, it means you have no boot command going to the kernel08:56
nikkiaraven3x7: its just going to be a neverending source of headaches08:56
grimsterand how do i fix that?08:56
icemanHappyFool high end gamming ... and to start looking into 64 bit computing ...08:57
nonedeadhow do i use it08:57
Seveasgrimster, did you compile your own kernel..?08:57
grimsterno08:57
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grimsteri downloaded the iso file from the site08:57
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Seveasbina, 2039 actualy if struct timval does not change08:57
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HappyFooliceman: i'd check that games you're interested in have 64 bit versions first08:57
Seveasiso file for what..?08:57
nikkiaraven3x7: since the 'driver' is just a stub loader for a binary module, its a shame nvidia didn't make the stub detect the hw and load the older binary if the card isn't supported, at least that way it could be distributed as one driver package08:57
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grimsterboot disc for ubuntu08:57
HappyFooliceman: i'm under the impression a good graphics card is more important, though i may be wrong08:58
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crocodiledoes anyone can help to make work two nics in my computer using ubuntu ?08:58
Seveasgrimster, do an md5sum check of the iso08:58
binacan you run 32 bit apps on 64 bit procs?08:58
crocodilehello08:58
Seveasbina, yes08:58
icemanHappyfool well farcry is 64 bit ... and i beliee doom 3 is as well ...08:58
signbarnGiven a choice for a download on a webpage, is it better to choose the .tar.gz with a script installer or do something like alien an .rpm?08:58
raven3x7nikkia yeah and to get that old drivers to work properly on future x.org implementations. highly unlikely it will be possible to support it in a year or so if they dont make a legacy package08:58
grimstersomeone said that the computer wasnt recognizing my hard drive last night08:58
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nikkiaraven3x7: *nod*08:58
ed1tsignbarn, .tar.gz08:58
signbarnthanks08:58
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masta_does anyone know what would make my screen shake?08:59
nikkiaraven3x7: the whole deal really leaves a bad taste in my mouth, i always used to say 'nvidia are great, they support (almost) all of their hardware for years'08:59
ed1tsignbarn, .rpms are for redhat based distros08:59
sproingiean earthquake?08:59
cloudhi..there's someone who can help me with samba?08:59
masta_neg no earthquakes08:59
grimstermasta if you have a fan on near your screen it will shake :p08:59
icemanI know 64 bit is still a  evolving platform, but it will be the future of the desktop soon ..08:59
sproingienikkia: something go wrong with nvidia drivers?08:59
nikkiaraven3x7: i mean, prior to this split, the only released nvidia card that had no driver support was the NV1, and that was so utterly understandable that it wasn't worth counting :)08:59
signbarnedlt: doesn't alien turn .rpms into .debs?08:59
cloudnikkia: hi man how are u?:D08:59
masta_no.. it seems to be linked to usage i.e. once you run ut2004 it will start to shake after a while08:59
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raven3x7nikkia on windows tnt cards havent been supported for about 2 years09:00
sproingiemasta_: up and down, or across or wavy picture or what?09:00
nikkiaraven3x7: thats not true09:00
Seveassignbarn, it does....09:00
masta_wavy09:00
cloudnikkia: do u know why my xp clients can't read my shared files with samba? it says to me "access denied".-.09:00
sproingiemasta_: you have a crt i take it?09:00
masta_correct09:00
nikkiaraven3x7: i work with TNT based hardware at work, and just recently dl'ed nvidia's driver package for XP, and it detected and used the card just fine09:00
sproingiemasta_: i'd say your crt has problems09:00
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icemannikkia yea even nvidia's newest drivers still support the older tnt cards ..09:01
nikkiaiceman: the latest linux drivers do not09:01
Seveascloud, you need to create a samba password with smbpasswd09:01
signbarnSeveas, is it messy or something?09:02
cloud!???09:02
ubotucloud: No idea09:02
nikkiaiceman: which is the point, the latest linux drivers support GF4 and up, and a handful of specific GF2 and GF3 based cards09:02
Seveassignbarn, rpm's are messy :)09:02
raven3x7nikkia i mean they havent released any new drivers for about two years. xp has been around for more so naturally there are xp drivers09:02
icemannikkia humm i just moved up from a nvidia 400 series to a 5500 but both worked for me ...09:02
masta_sproingie: ill try a different one, thanks09:02
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Seveasnikkia, the 7667 still supprts tnt2....09:02
cloudSeveas: i executed and changed password for my user...but i can't read the files in the other computers...my xp clients..09:03
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nikkiaseveas, uh? since when?09:03
raven3x7Seveas are you sure?09:03
DekaPinkI wish I knew why games were running so slow on my linux partition. :309:03
BlazingSteakSaucxfce works on ubuntu right?09:03
Seveasnikkia, raven3x7 the nvidia.com site says so...09:03
icemanI wonder if 64 bit at this time is worth the $200.00 it would cost me to upgrade ...09:03
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Seveashttp://nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp09:04
nikkiaSeveas: i don't think it does09:04
paulproteusiceman: It depends - what do you have currently?09:04
sproingieiceman: probably not.  you using anything that could make use of 64 bit?09:04
BlazingSteakSauciceman 64 bit is smoking09:04
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Seveasif i select graphics - tht2 - linux it gives me that...09:04
nikkiaSeveas: that's a flaw in their web interface then09:04
sproingieiceman: 64 bit doesnt become useful until you have a database and over 4 gig of ram09:04
icemanpaulproteus a P4 2.8 ... non hyper threading Dell09:04
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nikkiaseveas, the readme for 7667 states:09:05
nikkiaBelow are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver.09:05
nikkiaThese GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA09:05
nikkiaGPU driver releases.09:05
nikkiaand then in the list:     RIVA TNT2 Ultra                    0x002909:05
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raven3x7nikkia iceman new nvidia windows drivers dont support tnt1 based cards i use one on this pc09:05
Seveasnikkia, hmm, a flaw indeed09:05
sproingieiceman: basically, all 64 bit mode does for most apps is give you more usable registers09:05
testtthow do I change the mouse driver ? it scroll by itself right now09:06
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grimsterim haing a problem with my 64bit while using my lanparty mobo09:06
grimsteri cant figure out why :\09:06
icemancurious thing is ... what will be the large gains in 64 bit in the next year ...09:06
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JDahlis someone using wireless network on an IBM t40p? I could use some advice09:07
sproingiei think if you want to support an 8 year old card, you should run an 8 year old kernel09:07
BlazingSteakSaucbesides faster running of 32 bit apps09:07
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drcodehi all09:07
drcodeI need some help09:07
nikkiaraven3x7: its interesting to note that the GF2MX is listed as supported, i'm fairly sure it wasn't before when they first announced the split in supported cards09:07
icemantheir barely touching the math of the 64 bit platform ... and comparinr 16 and 32 bit ... and now 32 to 64 bit ...09:07
robotgeeksproingie, why not have kernel support, but just not built on. or in modules, u want it , u load  it!09:07
everett_Speak, and yea might be answered, drcode... drcode.... drcode....09:08
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sproingieiceman: even 64 bit isn't interesting as far as bus sizes go.  even the ps2 has a 128 bit bus.  32 bit instructions, but it transfers 4 at a time09:08
drcodeI try to download with bitchx09:08
drcodesome bot I see that the  file is send but it dosnt estblish09:08
drcodeany idea?09:08
raven3x7nikkia i didnt really read all the cards. maybe they discovered that it worked by accident or something09:08
nikkiaraven3x7: makes me wonder if they want to support everything, but haven't yet got OpenGL 2 support working on anything but the current list09:08
Seveasdrcode, this is not a general irc help channel, go to #bitchx or so....09:08
crocodilein gnome .. exist some ftp client ?09:08
Seveascrocodile, gftp or the places -> connect to server menu item09:09
nikkiaraven3x7: because this driver split is all about OpenGL 2.009:09
drcodewhat is there irc server?09:09
everett_drcode, your probaby running a firewall.09:09
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drcodeyes09:09
robotgeekcrocodile, gftp09:09
drcodebut I open all pors09:09
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drcodeports09:09
crocodileok09:09
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sproingienikkia: at least nvidia is actually supporting ogl 2.0... i'll wait in vain for ATI to ever support it09:09
nikkiaraven3x7: and i know that part of the problem is that the older cards have very limited texture sizes, and i believe OpenGL 2.0 gets rid of a lot of the 'must be < 1024 pixels wide/high' stuff09:10
icemanmemory still needs to evolv to catch up to the 64 bit platform.. but to move to a kv8 pro Motherboard and a AMD 2800 cpu, would there be a noticable gain from a 2.8 P4 ...09:10
raven3x7nikkia i dont think even all 7 series cards support hardware opengl 2.009:10
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everett_drcode, you'll probably need to ask someone more familiar with bitchx and firewalls.09:10
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sproingie*shrug* ati drivers are stable now, they're damn fast for blender, but my next card will be an nvidia nonetheless09:10
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sproingiei'm not so much burned by ATI, just disappointed09:10
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sproingieSeveas: a little spring cleaning?09:11
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raven3x7nikki then it might be that they need a minimum of onboard memory to get opengl 2.0 working09:11
Seveassproingie, yeah sort of09:11
trs81hey .. I've got acpi s3 sleep working, but it only works once per reboot. using an asus w5a laptop. any ideas?09:11
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mbirkisaafter installing the 1.0.2 firefox update... i am unable to download stuff without right clicking the download link :( this is amd64, is there a bug database or something on ubuntu?09:11
nikkiaraven3x7: no a lot of the older cards cannot store textures that they should be capable of, due to limitations in the GPU firmware09:11
Seveasmbirkis, known bug, the latest official and ubuntu package break a lot09:12
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sproingiei always liked moo's ban command set09:12
nikkiaraven3x7: in most cases, nvidia should be able to correct those, if they are so inclined, as nvidia has almost always used soft-firmware09:12
Seveasmbirkis, downgrade to the previous version09:12
mbirkisSeveas: ok... thnx09:12
sproingie@newt <user> for <duration>09:12
the_beginnerHi guys , newb question here from the_beginner....If i'm trying to copy a pdf from cd to linux how do i do it if its got a ' in..... usually i can just go like cp "Akoolpdf.pdf" /path/path/path  .... But if its got a ' in, e.g. cp "A'koolpdf.pdf" /path/path/path, it doesn't work, do i have to rename the file first??09:12
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Seveasthe_beginner, escape the '09:12
Seveasmv A\'koolpdf.pdf09:13
Seveasetc...09:13
raven3x7nikkia interesting. didnt know that... i might be a bit too much work though to get support for those cards then though09:13
nikkiaraven3x7: for example, a TNT2 cannot store a texture of 4096x256, it has the ram, it just can't, the firmware limits texture size to 204809:13
mbirkisSeveas: err... how do i downgrade??09:13
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the_beginner"escape" the ' ??? is that some Linux command, or did you just mean leave it out?09:13
Seveasmbirkis, in private chat09:13
the_beginnerlol09:13
mbirkisSeveas: ok09:14
the_beginnerOh i see, is that what the slash is about? stick one of them in before the ' ?09:14
Seveasyes09:14
raven3x7nikkia you seem to be into grph cards a lot09:14
icemanbut to move to a kv8 pro Motherboard and a AMD 2800 cpu, would there be a noticable gain from a 2.8 P4 ...09:14
the_beginnerOh hehe, yeah the error has one of them in or something09:14
sproingieodd.  in double-quotes, a single-quote should already be escaped09:14
nikkiaraven3x7: i program OpenGL stuff for a living :P09:14
the_beginnerMaybe its telling me what to do but i'm just being dumb >_<09:15
the_beginnerlol09:15
the_beginnerThanks anyway09:15
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tux_opa09:15
nikkiaraven3x7: and i've had the misfortune of working with the TNT2 and i740 in that capacity, the i740's GL implementation is even more broken than the TNT2s :)09:15
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raven3x7nikkia now that would explain it. ;) must be a cool job actually to work on that stuff09:15
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tux_hello people09:16
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tux_Hey... I need some help...09:16
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Seveastux_, read the topic: just ask09:16
tux_I 'm working in ubuntu... but I need to access my windows partition...09:16
grimsterdoes anyone else have a 64amd and an nvidia nforce3 250gb chipset mobo?09:16
Seveastux_: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically09:16
keikozmount it09:16
tux_tks09:16
the_beginnerYou know i think everyone should consider getting linux, just for the level of realtime help & support in these places, lol.09:16
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Seveasthe_beginner, hehe :)09:17
raven3x7nikkia my tnt1 seems to handle gl better than dx on windows though09:17
sproingiegrimster: i have such a setup09:17
grimsterim having a problem and i have no idea why09:17
nikkiaraven3x7: oh, nvidia's GL implementations are always fast09:17
AlexBOhello friends!what is the folder of fonts?09:17
SeveasAlexBO, /usr/share/fonts09:17
AlexBOSeveas: thanks! bye09:17
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osarapik__grimster, i have a  buddy that has this mobo, a nforce3 with an amd 64bit09:18
osarapik__it's run fast09:18
osarapik__=)09:18
sproingiegrimster: there's no need to msg me09:18
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tux_Hey guys...  what do you now about XPde??09:18
nikkiaraven3x7: unbelievably fast sometimes... one thing i was working on, we had a 70,000 polygon model, and we thought we'd try rendering it in realtime, just for a laugh, on a TNT2 *PCI*, it managed 20fps - with realtime shadows and reflections, not enough for our needs, but still impressive really09:18
sorush20does the sis graphic card work with ubuntu...09:18
sproingiegrimster: what's the prob you're having with it?09:18
grimsterwell my ubuntu installation is not loading09:18
grimsteri get the error..09:18
grimsteri get an error "Kernel panic - not syncing: no init found. try passing the init= option to kernel."09:18
raven3x7nikkia in fact i played jedi academy on this card (stb velocity 4400)09:19
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Seveasgrimster, did you perform an md5sum check of the .iso file?09:19
grimsterit worked before i got the new processor and mobo09:19
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raven3x7nikkia for a card that was released about 6 years ago that is impressive indeed09:19
sproingiegrimster: you're using the same kernel on a new mobo?09:19
sproingiegrimster: that may well not work at all09:20
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raven3x7TNT2 pci?09:20
nikkiaraven3x7: it was faster on the TNT2 than it was on my old 9200SE :P09:20
grimsteri guess so, my windows installation doesnt work either09:20
nikkiaraven3x7: yes, as in a TNT2 with 32MB of vram, sat in a plain 33MHz PCI slot :)09:20
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osarapik__grimster, do you have the 64 bit ubuntu cd?09:20
Seveasnikkia, raven3x7 would you mind taking this off-topic discussion outside the channel...09:20
sproingiegrimster: ouch.  i cant imagine you switched to sata, since you have the same hd09:20
raven3x7i wasnt aware they even released tnt2s on pci09:21
nikkiaraven3x7: the hardware it was running on has no AGP ports, which i thought was a bit odd for a Athlon XP 2800+09:21
sproingiegrimster: i don't know what else could be failing.  does anything boot, like a livecd?09:21
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grimsteri use sata09:21
sproingiegrimster: that's it then09:21
grimsterthats a problem?09:21
sproingiegrimster: you need the nvidia sata driver, and your old kernel doesn't have it09:21
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grimsterhmm09:22
grimsteri have a raid driver floppy09:22
Seveassproingie, isn't that driver awfully new?09:22
JDahlI am trying to configure my wireless network, but I cannot choose "eth1" under system->administration->networking. Where can I check if eth1 is setup at all? During installation I was asked to choose between setting up ethernet or wireless, but I chose ethernet at the time09:22
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PIANISThey guys... anyone uses lostirc?09:22
sproingiegrimster: the installer will install it09:22
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grimsterwhat installer?09:22
sproingieSeveas: beats me09:22
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sproingieSeveas: it seems plenty stable to me09:22
VeloxSQuestion: I recently installed Ubuntu, today I went to compile WINE, and I used Synaptic to install GCC and such, but makedep seems to be missing.09:22
grimsterim still in bios on that computer :\ lol cant get any OS installed on it09:22
emXhey all; trying to get my brother's warty->hoary upgrade polished off...still can't get sound to work.09:22
sproingiegrimster: the ubuntu installer.  your old configuration might not have bothered to install it09:23
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Seveassproingie, yeah good call09:23
sproingiegrimster: i would guess the 64 bit kernels have it compiled in, since it's a common chipset09:23
grimsterthe ubuntu installer doesnt fully load though..?09:23
Seveassproingie, hehe, Ubuntu kernels are minimalistic09:23
emXhe has a cs46xx compatible card, modules are loaded, tried editing (asound|esd).conf, still no go.09:23
Seveassproingie, drivers are almost never compiled into the kernel09:23
Ba2how do I enable directsound under wine?09:23
Seveasalways modules09:23
Seveasand they need to be in initrd, which the installer does09:24
sproingieSeveas: yeah but how would it load the module without the driver?09:24
grimsterso i have to download a 64bit ubuntu iso file?09:24
Seveassproingie, initrd :)09:24
sproingieSeveas: how it loads the kernel at all is a mystery, but probably some bios trick09:24
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sproingieSeveas: even the initrd is on the disk.  like i said, i'm guessing some kind of bios support09:24
Seveassproingie, bios loads grub, grub loads kerenel + initrd (which contains modules), kernel loads modules09:24
Seveassproingie, indeed, but the fact that the kernel starts means that grub is ok with it09:25
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grimstersproingie tell me what to download or install please09:25
emXi know nobody wants to fix another sound problem (i idle here often enough to know that :-), but any ideas?09:25
SeveasI think that the module is just missing from initrd09:25
sproingiegrimster: if you have another linux that can target the disk, you can copy a new initrd with the proper module09:25
tvonDid something change with inotify in 1.6.12-4?09:25
sproingiegrimster: that's pretty hairy tho ... you'll probably just need to reinstall09:25
tvoner, 2.6.12-409:25
grimsterokay...you just lost me09:25
grimsterthis is my first time with linux, :\09:26
tvonI don't seem to have /dev/inotify and I have the argument passed during boot09:26
sproingiegrimster: yeah, it means you probably don't have that setup.  sorry, but changing motherboards is a rough ride with any OS09:26
tvonand I see nothing in changelog.Debian09:26
carlAmaranth, why?09:26
tvon(about inotify in the recent release)09:26
grimsterso what should i do?09:26
Seveasgrimster, try reinstalling....09:26
sproingiegrimster: i think you're going to have to stick the install CD in and reinstall.09:26
grimsterbut i told you i get an error message09:27
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grimsteryou said its because i use sata09:27
sproingiegrimster: the motherboard manufacturer might have a disk for windows that can fix the windows side.  otherwise you're looking at a reinstall there too09:27
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sproingiegrimster: yep, the sata drivers are specific to the motherboard09:27
grimsterwell i have a cd that came with the mobo and a raid diskette09:27
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Amaranthcarl: What?09:28
grimsterwhat would have the sata drivers?09:28
carlwhy fsck from win?09:28
Amaranthcarl: because i kill my /boot and i think a fsck will fix it09:28
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sproingiegrimster: the raid disk might have the sata drivers.  beats me what's on it tho, it probably requires a working os to install09:28
grimsterhum09:28
Amaranthcarl: i have no ubuntu CD and no blank CDs09:28
grimsterill try to figure this out, one second brb09:28
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Amaranthcarl: i'm hoping a fsck will fix it, otherwise i just lost smeg 0.809:28
VeloxSQuestion: I recently installed Ubuntu, today I went to compile WINE, and I used Synaptic to install GCC and such, but makedep seems to be missing.09:28
carlAmaranth, what abourt floppys?09:28
maneyokay, how do i do something so brain-dead stupid easy I haven't had to think about it in years.  I've got a plain ol' WAV file - what in Hoary plays it (and why isn't it just there?)09:29
Fanskapethmm anyone know how to config grub to boot BeOS ?09:29
aruwhat is it all these people are using WINE for?09:29
Amaranthcarl: nope, otherwise i'd be using tomsrtbt already09:29
sproingiemaney: just about anything should play a pcm wav09:29
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maneysproingie: not sound player09:29
sproingiemaney: wav isn't actually a single file format, it's a meta format09:29
JDahlHow can I configure my atheros wireless netcard post install? It shows up in lspci, but there is no eth1 in the networking applet09:29
sproingiemaney: it usually means 44.1khz pcm audio tho09:29
maneysproingie: that's the case here, in fact09:30
sproingiemaney: soundplayer doesn't play it?  how crummy.  try anything else.09:30
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Amaranthcarl: basically i need an fdisk and fsck for windows that understand ext3 filesystems09:30
carlAmaranth, i hear thare are ext2 for win, but A) they cost $ and  B) I would worry that in trying to get them to work things get worse09:30
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sproingiemaney: it's like one of the simplest audio formats there is09:30
maneysproingie: what else?  if I need to play hunt the wumpus for simple stuff i may as well use Sarge and skip all this Gnome overhead09:31
grimsterhmm anyone have any ideas on how to install sata drivers for a nforce3 250 mobo?09:31
maneysproingie: yeah, that's why I'm flabbergasted that it doesn't Just Work09:31
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sproingiemaney: don't ask me, i run kde :)09:31
carlAmaranth, does the box or nic support PXE netboot?09:31
grimstersproingie09:31
Amaranthcarl: possibly09:31
sproingiegrimster09:31
carlAmaranth,  what do you use for a dhcp server?09:32
grimsterit say i can install the nvidia raid or the nvidia storage controller09:32
Amaranthmy cable modem09:32
grimstershoul;d i try the storage controller?09:32
sproingieCarl: cne way to make windows read ext2 is to run colinux and export the fs via samba09:32
ompaulmaney, the same reason that it does not 'just work' in sarge09:32
grimstersproingie ^^09:33
maneyompaul: well, I suppose I should have said Woody, but yeah, it's easy09:33
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carlsproingie, samba isn't going to let him reparir a broken fs09:33
robotgeekdoes anyone know how do i check from the command line if headphones have been plugged in?09:34
sproingiecarl: no, i don't suppose so.  it's ok for reading a working fs09:34
grimstersproingie should i try to install the NVIDIA NForce storage controller?09:34
grimsteris that the SATA driver?09:34
arurobotgeek: I would check the plug first :)09:34
sproingiegrimster: that's probably what you want.  the name of the module is sata_nv, that's all i know09:35
robotgeekaru, i know...09:35
robotgeekand btw, smiling will get you sued now!09:35
sproingiegrimster: i'd install everything that says nforce09:35
arudammit! :/09:35
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ompaulmaney, :-) perhaps, but there is a situation where one should have some understanding why something is not 'free' in the RMS sense, after all there are those that would love to make the ownership of Linux illegal, look at the patents thing for one, the mpg encumberment, if nothing else that comes to the fore, at that point can choose to think in a political way or not, but if it just works then they do not have a chance09:35
grimsternvatabus.sys is the file it has on the floppy i think09:35
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maneyompaul: oh, WAV is unfree?  funny, i never heard that before09:36
sproingiegrimster: that's what you need for windows.  not sure how you'll install that without a working windows tho09:36
ompaulsorry maney woops09:36
sproingiegrimster: that's possibly what you'll need as a OEM driver floppy to install windows tho09:36
grimsterin at the reformat windows screen09:36
maneyompaul: hey, if there were some sensible reason for it not to work I wouldn't be so peissed that it doens't  :-)09:36
grimsterim in the SCSI/RAID installation part09:36
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robotgeeksee, my problem is that when i use aumix to increase the volume,there are two channels ..Master (which increases the volume of the headphones) and PC Speaker which increases the volume of the speaker on the laptop09:37
grimsterhopefully i can get this installed then ubuntu :)09:37
ompaulmaney, apt-get install oggdec might help09:37
maneyompaul: yeah, i guess it's time to start trying one thing s, then another...09:38
robotgeekand I want to 'intelligently' turn off the speakers if headphone is inserted.09:38
ompaulmaney, I typically go for all the oggvorbis stuff to start09:38
maneyompaul: ogg is useless to me, I'm afraid09:38
robotgeekin the volume control panel, there's a headphone detection flag which works well..there must be a cli version, i dunno where it is!09:38
ompaulmaney, that codec does wav09:39
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maneyompaul: codec, check.  what interface works with it?09:40
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JDahlby googling on my wireless network it seems I need madwifi drivers... do I need to download and compile those myself?09:40
ompaulmaney, totem should pick it up with little or no prompting09:40
SeveasJDahl, no09:40
Seveasthey should be installed by the installer09:40
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Seveasompaul, /usr/share/sounds/*09:41
maneyompaul: if it does it will be the first time totem has done anything right for me.  BTW, aptitude finds nothing matching oggdec.  any idea what it's called?09:41
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JDahlSeveas, lspci shows my network card, but not dmesg.09:41
aruSystem > Administration > Synaptic then search for ogg09:41
maneyompaul: heck, never though of throwing totem at it - it says there "movie player"09:42
SeveasJDahl, modprobe ath_pci09:42
grimsteralright no im loosing my paitients, this is the fourth day ive wasted trying to get this to work09:42
maneywell, there we go.  the "movie player" plays sounds better than the "sound player".09:42
ompaulmaney, I listens to lots of stuff with precious totem :)09:42
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maneythanks ompaul!09:43
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ompaulmaney, np09:43
JDahlSeveas, FATAL: Module ath_pci not found.09:43
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artist303hi all09:43
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SeveasJDahl, do you have the restricted-modules package installed?09:44
ivan_qkhi, which diretory si top-level kernel directory?09:44
ompaulivan_qk, for source?09:44
ivan_qkyes09:44
SeveasJDahl, package linux-686 (intel CPU) or linux-k7 (AMD)09:44
artist303is it normal that the gFtp does not support FTPS?09:44
Seveas /usr/src/linux09:44
artist303do i have to compile it from source?09:44
Seveasartist303, on Ubuntu: yes09:44
PDanihi09:44
ivan_qki wanna recompile kernel09:44
Seveasartist303, on Ubuntu: yes <-- the not supporting sftp part09:44
PDanii tried to compile lirc modules, and i got the next message:09:45
sorush20guys what is the basic way of installing from source...09:45
ivan_qki trying some stuffs for learn linux09:45
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Seveasivan_qk: You can find compilation instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto09:45
sproingieivan_qk: what for?09:45
PDani/usr/src/linux/ is not a valid kernel source tree.09:45
PDanibut /usr/src/linux is a valid kernel source09:45
JDahlSeveas, this is new installation, and I never bothered to install a 686 kernel instead of the default 386. Do I need to?09:45
Seveasivan_qk, but don't unluss you have a good reason...09:45
sproingieJDahl: it'll make virtually no difference09:45
SeveasJDahl, linux-386 should contain it too, lemme check09:45
anachronismJDahl, i switched, but i notice no difference09:45
ivan_qknot really, i just wanna learn09:45
PDaniany idea?09:45
artist303Seveas: so it looks like that ftps support wasn't configured in the gftp package? why?09:45
Seveasghem JDahl it seems that it does *not*09:45
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Seveasartist303, ENOIDEA09:45
SeveasJDahl, you should install linux-686 to get the atheros module09:46
resiakGo go OpenSSH license being incompatible with the GPL!09:46
artist303Seveas: hm, ok. thanks09:46
JDahlSeveas, ok - thanks!09:46
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anachronismI once read that the 386 only can handle up to 860 MB of RAM and the the 686 can handle more than that, is it true?09:46
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sproingieeven that is incompatible with the GPL09:47
paulproteusresiak: Eh?09:47
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sproingieanachronism: you can address up to at least 2 gigs on any x86 cpu supported by linux09:48
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ivan_qkSeveas, thanks for the url09:48
anachronismwow okay thank you for that information09:48
grimsteri still cant find the drivers sproingie09:49
sproingieanachronism: if you have more than 2 gigs you might need the address extension stuff in a newer kernel, but i dont think even that takes a recompile09:49
sproingiegrimster: on the ubuntu install cd?09:49
Seveassproingie, it will :)09:49
grimsteri cant get it to load09:49
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grimsterwhat else can i use instead of sata?09:49
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sproingiegrimster: nothing, if your drive is sata, you need sata09:49
arua typewriter?09:49
anachronismno no, i only have 1024 MB of Ram, i switched to the 686 kernel image because i read the previously mentioned (mis)information, but as i said, i noticed no difference in Ubuntu09:50
grimsterwell im kind of lost and this driver disc is not working09:50
sproingiegrimster: if you're using the ubuntu install cd, try just installing.  if it manages to install, it has the drivers built in09:50
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grimsterit wont load man09:50
sproingiegrimster: otherwise it will croak the moment it starts to install packages, possibly during partitioning09:50
sproingiegrimster: where does it die?09:50
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grimsterafter i hit enter to start the cd to load09:51
grimsteri see the ubuntu screen09:51
grimsterthat says type server or just hit enter09:51
grimsterand i hit enter09:51
grimsterit goes for like 10 seconds and then it stops at that error i told you before09:51
sproingieanachronism: stuff like media players gets a real speed boost with a compile for the cpu you're using.  a kernel is a pretty dumb thing that just runs your chipset and other hardware, so cpu optimizations don't help much09:51
sproingieanachronism: a lot of the difference between x86 cpu's is floating point.  the kernel doesn't even use it at all09:52
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naliothgrimster: did you check your md5 checksum before you burned the disk (if it is a burnt disk)?09:52
Seveasgrimster, i think sproingie and I misunderstood the problem09:52
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Seveasgrimster, did you put your CD drive on sata via a converter?09:52
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Andriyushkahello09:52
grimsterdo you understand it now? :\09:52
ompaulgrimster, okay, I have seen this before, simple recovery available, choose to install server, then when it is finished do this 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'09:52
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grimsteruh let me try09:52
anachronismsproingie: thank you for all that information :) I didn't even compile, i just downloaded the image via synaptic and boot it via grub. But i will keep that image now. thanks again09:53
JDahlSeveas, thanks for the help - that could've taken me along time to figure out!09:53
Andriyushkadoes asyone here know the .conf file with all the customisation information of nautilus is?09:53
grimsternow i got a bunch of error that came up09:53
SeveasAndriyushka, customization of what..?09:54
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grimsterand it still didnt load fully09:54
Seveasgrimster, did you put your CD drive on sata via a converter? <--09:54
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Andriyushkalike background and theme selection09:54
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grimsterwhat do you mean a converter?09:54
ompaul /home/username/.nautilus/metafiles09:54
SeveasAndriyushka, that's not in a conf file09:54
Andriyushkaok THX09:54
Andriyushka:)09:54
sproingieSeveas: that would be an odd thing. i think most people just plug it into the ide controller09:54
Andriyushkaok09:54
SeveasAndriyushka, http://art.gnome.org/faq.php09:54
Seveassproingie, afaik sata does not support cd drives09:55
ompaulgrimster, you started the machine afresh?09:55
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grimsterwell im attempting to09:55
Seveassproingie, so the cd drive must be plugged into a normal ata port09:55
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Andriyushkaok thank you09:55
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grimsteri just bought a new mobo and upgraded from a 32 to a 6409:55
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arugrimster: reinstall with the 64 bit iso09:55
ompaulgrimster, okay this is bit?09:55
sproingiearu: mmm next problem he'll have is getting a 32bit chroot going09:56
grimsterthe computer doesnt work. period.09:56
ompaulgrimster, like aru said09:56
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grimsterim on another computer09:56
grimsterthat computer has no OS on the hdd09:56
arusproingie: go buy a p200?09:56
SynapseRIs it possible to use a bluetooth modem in ubuntu-live ?09:56
sproingiearu: got a p166 sitting next to me.  thought i'd use it for hacking forth or something like that09:57
arusproingie: donate it to grimster to solve his problem :)09:57
sproingiearu: full tower.  shipping would cost twice as much as what it's worth09:57
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arugood point09:57
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teferiSynapseR: i don't see why not, you'd just have to grab the relevant packages if it doesn't have the bluetooth stuff already09:58
grimsterwhats a p166?09:58
teferippp stuff already comes installed , so...09:58
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sorush20guys.. I'm having problems installing ndiswrapper...09:58
SynapseRteferi : which packages would I be looking for ?09:58
sproingiegrimster: 166 mhz pentium. ancient.09:58
grimsterrofl09:58
grimstersproingie can i pm you fora  sec?09:59
sorush20I'm trying to compile from the source.. but I just don't know the basics... can someone help please.. ?09:59
sproingieactually she has an original ibm xt sitting around somewhere09:59
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sproingieshe being the owner of the p16609:59
aruI have some computer I was going to fix for someone at work, then they got fired... I should install something on it and use it10:00
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teferigrab bluez-utils, bluez-hcidump, bluez-pin10:00
osarapik__i have a p133-48MB for my mother, it's is disconnected since ... six months :D10:00
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teferiuse "rfcomm" to set up a rfcomm channel to your phone10:00
teferiuse "pppconfig" to set up a ppp connection using /dev/rfcomm0 as a modem10:01
ompaulsorush20, what package is it, where did you get it,10:01
teferi(you'll have to find the username and password to use from your provider)10:01
Fanskapethmm so we don't have any good old BeOS users around here? :D10:01
raven3x7 is it possible to get dma on startup on ubuntu hoary?  i edited the hpdarm file according to the unofficial guide but that doesnt work10:01
AlexBOwhere can i dowload plugin for xine?10:01
teferipppconfig is lovely, incidentially...setting up a modem in linux these days is just ridiculously easy10:01
raven3x7!dma10:02
ompaulsorush20, to make life easy do this 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'10:02
sorush20I have used synaptic to install the ... .here is the link to the package.... http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-1.2.tar.gz10:03
AlexBOhello!where can i dowload plugin for xine?10:03
SynapseRteferi : I want to use it for a GPRS dial in - *99#10:03
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SynapseRwill that work with pppconfig ?10:03
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sorush20ompaul thats all verywell but the problem is that I'm trying to use ndiswrapper to get an internet connection running on my pc... so apt-get will not work with out a connection...10:04
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ompaulsorush20, you have a CD it might be that in there you will find such a package10:04
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kolcvkis there some web editor like Dreamweaver on Linux ?10:05
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MobusEVIL!10:05
MobusWYSIWYG IS THE SOURCE OF ALL EVIL IN THIS WORLD!10:05
ompaulsorush20, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu that might help a little10:05
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aruactually WYSIWYG is a good song...10:06
ompaulMobus, you could strip that comment back with a lack of caps lock10:06
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raven3x7kolcvk nvu10:06
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sorush20the utili.. package is there.. however the modules are not.... I do have the modules package on the ubuntu system its just a matter of installing it...10:06
Mobusactually, i just held SHIFT, I didn't use cpas lock10:06
Mobuscaps*10:06
sorush20ompaul how do I install a .deb package...10:06
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zukalksorush20, sudo dpkg -i <filename.deb> ?10:07
raven3x7Mobus frontpage is the source of all evil10:07
JackMcCracksorush20: dpkg -i bla.deb10:07
arusorush20: did you check Synaptic for the app you want?10:07
MobusThat too10:07
aruor package10:07
DAC1138people who say things are evil are evil10:07
Mobusfrontpage is a type of WYSIWYG10:07
_blakehi all10:07
aruPitchshifter has a song on their first album called WYSIWYG10:07
zukalkMicrosuck is the main source of evil10:07
Mobushewwo10:07
MobusThat also10:07
kolcvk:)10:07
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anachronismwhat kind of genre is pitchshifter? sorry for being off-topic10:08
ompaulsorush20, dpkg -i package.deb10:08
phixionMmm, when I click on some links in firefox (dloadable links) it doesnt work, anyway of getting it to work?10:08
DAC1138sounds like a sport10:08
GochfulshiganI AM MOBUS GOCHFULSHIGAN DORPHIN! FEEL MY WRATH! FOR I AM AN UBUNTU USERS! AHHAHAHAHA!10:08
DAC1138"pitchshifting"10:08
epilochey DAC113810:08
Gochfulshigan-s10:08
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Gochfulshiganat the end10:08
DAC1138epiloc, howdy10:08
epilocjust wanted to say thanks for all the help...  and I have a weird question for you10:09
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DAC1138uh oh, i guess we know who to boot instantly10:09
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ompaulepiloc, no it is never ever weird, just not often :)10:09
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epilocyeah, beter hurry10:09
sorush20aru: I don't have internet on that computer until i use ndiswrapper to intall a Linksys card. for wireless conncection10:09
DAC1138epiloc, what weird question?10:09
M509I am M509.  We are the borg.  You will now be assimilated. Resistance is Futile10:09
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arusorush20: alrighty :)10:09
epilocwell, does anyone have any experience with CPAN?10:10
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ompaulM509, we are real you will be written out :)10:10
MobusAhh that;'s better10:10
raven3x7pitchshifter are nu metal i believe. never heard them my self though. btw wayyyy off topic10:10
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epilocactually, ill get more specific.  im having trouble installing Net::Pcap10:10
Mobussry about my little outburst... I kinda had to get it out of my system...10:10
raven3x7\m/10:10
djpraven3x7: u told someone ealrier to use !dma for info on dma and ubuntu. could you tell me how i type that command in order to get the advice?10:11
epilocanyone had troubles installing Net-Pcap?10:11
zukalk!dma10:11
raven3x7djp i typed that for my self  actulally !dma should do it10:11
thespiritoftalcan someone tell me how to extract a *.tar.gz archive?10:11
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zukalkdjp, ubotu will PM you with info about dma10:12
DAC1138ah, tr0ll quit, i guess he found we were on to his game10:12
raven3x7actually10:12
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thenukethespiritoftal: tar xvzf .tar.gz10:12
DAC1138tr0ll, welcome back, IRC problems?10:12
DAC1138epiloc, what is pcap?10:12
djp!dma10:12
razerslutwhat package/plugin do i need to install to play .avi files in totem?10:12
DAC1138epiloc, wireless app?10:12
epilocDAC1130, a network util10:12
thenukethespiritoftal: man tar and or man gzip would work also ;)10:12
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thespiritoftalthx the nuke :)10:12
DAC1138epiloc, you cant install it from apt-get?10:12
sorush20guy... could some one really just try to look at the package for me and let me know how to install it...  please...10:12
epilocim using wget10:13
epilocfrom a website10:13
JackMcCrackhow can i disable the gnome window decoration, just for licq? any hints?10:13
hou5toni don't think some of my stuff is updating ... I see on the website that the latest Gaim is 1.4, but my Synaptic says I'm up to date with 1.1.4 ??/  what's up10:13
thenukethespiritoftal: thespiritoftal or tar --help and or gzip --help :-)  I dont blame you but you should always try to figure it out by yourself, most often you can figure it out and learn something :)10:13
HappyFoolsorush20: which package?10:13
razerslutwhat package/plugin do i need to install to play .avi files in totem?10:14
anachronismhou5ton: is there "ubuntu" in front of the version information?10:14
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sorush20here is a link to it.... http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-1.2.tar.gz10:14
raven3x7hou5ton ubuntu ussually only backports security and bug fixes. it doesnt upgrade software\10:14
tom__how can I change the mouse driver ? it scrolls by itself right noiw ..10:14
naliothrazerslut: w32codecs10:14
sorush20happyfool, i try to make, and I get the following error saying that could not find the kernel source in a location10:14
sorush20could you help..10:14
hou5ton1.1.1-4-1Ubuntu-1.3 ... or something like that10:15
razerslutnalioth: is that in synaptic?10:15
JackMcCracktom__: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:15
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anachronismrazerslut: i think "totem-xine" should work too, the package10:15
tom__thanks jack10:15
raven3x7razerslut you will probably be much better off with mplayer though10:15
aruanachronism: did you get my privmsg?10:15
hou5tonoh ... I'm obviously new at this ... but I thought it auto-upgraded software10:15
HappyFoolsorush20: you are aware that ubuntu comes with a version of ndiswrapper already?10:15
naliothrazerslut: ubotu sent you a msg10:15
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razerslutraven3x7: how shall i install this? google might tell me huh?10:16
sorush20well... yes.. I can get as far as installing the inf file for the network card and beyond that I'm lost?10:16
naliothrazerslut: dont use backports regularly, cuz it maymake your system unable to upgrade10:16
Mobusok I just downloaded xmame from the package manager, but where did it install it to? How do I open it?10:16
raven3x7razerslut with apt or synaptic of course10:16
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hou5tonhow do I make Ubuntu get the latest version of software?10:16
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HappyFoolsorush20: i don't use ndiswrapper; my point is, i doubt you need to compile anything10:16
gigaclon!backports10:17
ubotuI heard backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports10:17
thenukehou5ton: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade10:17
thenukehou5ton: or use synaptic10:17
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xzzyhi! first time install. nice. went well..except10:17
ompaultech installs email for boss - boss gets ideas about email - emails all his minions - then walks around to their offices to see if they got it - strange the things that stick in your mind from 15 years ago10:17
HappyFoolsorush20: is there nothing on the wiki regarding ndiswrapper?10:17
thenukexzzy: :-) but?10:17
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dabaRMobus: tried xmame in a terminal?10:17
Mobustyping in xmame?10:17
demirgnikkia: you there?10:17
xzzydidn't get to set root passwd. Just user How to set root, now?10:18
ompaul!sudo10:18
ubotusomebody said sudo was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo10:18
HappyFoolsorush20: have you read this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper10:18
hou5tonthenuke:  I'm in Synaptic right now ... and it says I already have the latest version10:18
artist303I have found the solution for the gFtp "bug"! Maybe it was a packaging problem, if there is no openssl on the machine then build gFtp from source, FTPS support will not be enabled.10:18
nalioths_dogxzzy: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:18
nikkiademirg: sort of10:18
ompaulxzzy, that !sudo ref was for you :)10:18
raven3x7hou5ton ubuntu upgrades only bugs and security. when gaim realeses a new version with bug fixes they get put intu ubuntus version instead of updating the whole package10:18
xzzythank you!10:18
demirgnikkia: :)10:18
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nikkiademirg, i'm wading thru building a LFS system10:18
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demirgnikkia: can i ask you a small thing?10:19
xzzyyes! Thanks!10:19
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nikkiademirg: what is it?10:19
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tux_Hey people... I'm back....10:19
demirgnikkia: i tried NVIDIA-6111 but i get an error message like:10:19
dabaRMobus: sure, tried that? hit enter after.10:19
hou5tonraven3x7:  so ... if I want the latest version of Gaim ... do I just need to get it from their site?  I'm obviously not quite understanding where to go from here.10:19
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razerslutto install mplayer should i select all the mplayer packaes in synaptic or just a specified few?10:19
artist303In configure there is no option to --enable-ssl, but --disable-ssl10:19
demirgnikkia: The rivafb driver conflicts with the NVIDIA driver; the NVIDIA kernel module will still be built and installed,10:19
demirg         but be aware that the NVIDIA driver will not be able to  function properly if the rivafb module is loaded!10:19
raven3x7hou5ton, yes10:20
Mobusdabar: it still doesn't work10:20
arurazerslut: read the information about each one and see if you need it10:20
nikkiademirg, that's just a warning10:20
naliothartist303: if --disable is the only option you see, ssl is compiled in by default10:20
arurazerslut: some may be plugins for oddball stuff you wont need10:20
demirgnikkia: do u have any idea how to fix it?10:20
artist303so if there is no openssl, then complies without FTPS support without any complain10:20
_erazor_I am about to install ubuntu, can I install it on a Raid 0 stribeset on VIA VT8237 Southbridge SATA-Raid? Please query me the answer.10:20
nikkiademirg: unless you actually have the rivafb loaded, in which case, don't use the framebuffer :P10:20
demirgnikkia: yea but i cannot log on to X because of that warning :)10:21
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raven3x7razerslut safe bet is mplayer-38610:21
hou5tonwell ... isn't that special ... they don't have it on their web site for Ubuntu10:21
razerslutraven3x7: alright10:21
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hou5tonwindows, fedora, RH and Mandrake10:21
nikkiademirg, its more likely you can't log on to X because you haven't configured X properly yet :)10:21
artist303nalioth: I think it was not intended to build this way by ubuntu packagers10:21
demirgnikkia, might be true :)10:21
raven3x7hou5ton, debian should work10:22
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jodeHi, I upgraded firfox to 1.0.6 and now it isn't working right, getting errors . Is there anyway to undo the upgrade10:22
_erazor_would someone please answer me? :)10:22
raven3x7hou5ton, no debian?10:22
hou5tonraven3x7:  it doesn't list a Debian version10:22
naliothartist303: i'm sorry, i havent followed what you are trying to do, please inform me10:22
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raven3x7you could try using alien with one of rpms. or you could check if debian sid has 1.410:23
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osarapik__the xmms show playing but i don't listen anything, any idea?10:23
raven3x7hou5ton, you could try using alien with one of rpms. or you could check if debian sid has 1.410:23
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_erazor_I am about to download ubuntu, can I install it on a Raid 0 stribeset on VIA VT8237 Southbridge SATA-Raid? Other linux distributions always detect the RAID0 as 2 independent discs so I can not install them without destroying the RAID.10:23
epilocI wouldnt reccomend alien unless last option10:24
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ezsquirtosarapik : set output to libesd10:24
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jodecan someone help me?10:24
hou5tonraven3x7:  or ... I suppose I could experiment with FC4 ... wonder what it's like10:24
raven3x7hou5ton, alternativly you could try compiling but custom packages are a pain to manage10:24
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demirgnikkia, ERROR: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'.  This is most likely because the kernel module was built using the wrong kernel source files. Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your kernel;10:24
grimsterwhat is a free iso burning program?10:24
arunautilus10:24
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hou5tonraven3x7:  compiling a custom package would be way above my head right now10:24
demirgnikkia, this was the error message i got10:24
gigaclonk3b grimster10:25
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tahorghi10:25
anachronismgrimster, "K3b"10:25
arugrimster: nautilus10:25
fabien_je suis franais10:25
thingfishhou5ton: if it's like the rest of the fedoras, it's a bleeding edge bug collection.10:25
tahorgfabien_: /j ubuntu-fr10:25
tahorg#10:25
hou5tonthingfish:  thanks for the warning ... maybe i'll reconsider  :-)10:25
zukalkfabien_, on t'aidera mieux chez #ubuntu-fr10:25
fabien_oui tahorg10:25
raven3x7dunno about FC4 but i didnt like FC3 much and the whole livna vs other repos thing was pissing me off really10:25
aruraven3x7: #ubuntu-offtopic10:25
grimsteri need a iso burner for windows though10:25
tahorganyone can tell me what's the xorg's option to be able to switch to VT on breezy10:25
grimsterthis computer is windows10:26
arugrimster: cdburnerxp10:26
fortysixand2fireburner10:26
tahorg(I know I know I should'nt use breezy)10:26
raven3x7aru k10:26
tahorgI've tried DontVTSwitch "off"10:26
tahorgbut it does'nt seem to be it10:26
HappyFooltahorg: someone said that getty (or something) was broken in breezy10:26
arugrimster: http://www.cdburnerxp.se/ <- freeware10:26
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gigaclonalcohol 120 is nice windows burner/emulator but not free at all10:27
phixionuse daemon tools in windows :)10:27
tahorgHappyFool: no, it's just fine for me. I just want to be able to switch from X to console10:27
hmrochahello10:27
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fortysixand2alcohol 120 rocks10:27
tahorgHappyFool: ctrl-alt-fx and all10:27
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HappyFooltahorg: ok, i give up then ;). i was just relaying rumours.10:27
hybrid_caffeinefortysixand2: is there a linux alcohol10:27
benwcgrimster msg me your email and I'll send you a shell iso burner10:27
tahorgHappyFool: thanks10:28
fortysixand2hybrid_caffine:  not to my knowledge :(10:28
aruor just get the free one I posted10:28
hybrid_caffeine:'(10:28
SynapseRis there a way to load unbuntu-live to ram so that you can use the drive ?10:29
grimsteraru10:29
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hou5tonI thought Ubuntu would be a little more current on app versions?10:29
arugrimster: yes?10:29
nemiki'm having some problems with ubuntu losing permissions after a while with a daemon running every 10 seconds. after 18 hours or so, it says it cannot access a folder that i set to chmod 777. what is wrong?10:29
grimsterare you any good with installing sata drivers?10:29
arugrimster: nope10:29
grimsteris anyone? :\10:29
benwcI have done it a few times. What do you need to know10:30
thenukeSynapseR: I guess you have to install another drive :)10:30
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benwcAll sata drives come with a floppy to install them10:31
SynapseRcan't on my laptop :(10:31
thenukeSynapseR: but you could atleast try unmounting the drive10:31
elmagozizouHi..I need to configurate my nvidia card...is a MX 4000..but tuxracer doesnt see well and neither my opengl sceensavers..I already install the module and enabled it...and i install al nvidia packages posible...any help?10:31
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elmagozizouthe only thing is fine is 3ddesktop10:31
grimsteraru10:31
aruyes!?10:31
grimsterthe program you said set the disc to non bootable10:31
aruheh, thjat sucks10:31
grimsterlol10:32
arumaybe that was why I quit using it... I can't remember10:32
aruits break time...10:32
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benwcanyone have expeirence with setting up multiple IPs on one eth ?10:33
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fortysixand2why would you want/need multiple IPs on one device?10:34
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fortysixand2just curious10:34
HappyFoolelmagozizou: what does 'glxinfo|grep direct' say? It should say this :   "direct rendering: Yes"10:34
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hou5tonraven3x7:  it doesn not appear the Debian has the newest version available either10:34
grimsteroi aru, i got it set to bootable :)10:34
_erazor_I am about to download ubuntu, can I install it on a Raid 0 stribeset on VIA VT8237 Southbridge SATA-Raid? Other linux distributions always detect the RAID0 as 2 independent discs so I can not install them without destroying the RAID.10:34
zone17Hi, I am trying to install some software via source, when I run the configure script I get the error "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1.0) (headers and libraries) not found.", what is the packagename I need to install to get this working?10:35
benwcfortysixand2 I have more than one IP from my ISP and I want to setup multiple SSL's on my server10:35
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gichia10:35
gic:)10:36
fortysixand2hmmmm10:36
raven3x7hou5ton looks like alien is your only option if you absulutely need 1.4 and dont want to compile...10:36
HappyFoolzone17: i think it's libqt3-mt-dev10:36
gicwhat do i do to get shoutcast streams (mp3) on the ubuntu liveCD?10:36
HappyFoolzone17: also, check that the app you're compiling isn't already available in the ubuntu repositories; you can check here: packages.ubuntu.com10:36
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zone17HappyFool, it isn't its from a friend..10:37
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zone17HappyFool, trying to apt get, I get "Package libqt3-mt-dev is not available"10:37
elmagozizouHappyFool, say yes10:37
fortysixand2benwc:  I do not know how, but this might help:  http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Alias/10:37
zone17I am using the repos from ubuntu guide10:37
HappyFoolzone17: ubuntuguide is not really recommended10:37
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fortysixand2HappyFool:  why not?10:38
HappyFoolzone17: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list up on a pastebin? e.g. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:38
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dabaRzone17: what softwarte? Out of curiosity, I had the same error once10:38
HappyFoolfortysixand2: the reasons may be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines10:38
dabaRzone17: the reason their sources.list is not good, is that it kind of suggests to have backports open at all times.10:38
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DekaPinkOoooh... Hey... I've seen sites that have tutorials and stuff for puting linux on an xbox... I don't suppose that would work with Ubuntu? :310:39
raven3x7zone17, you probably need libqt-dev10:39
grimsteruhh10:39
fortysixand2" However, feel free to reccomend ubuntuguide to those who just want a quick fix"10:39
grimsteri get an error "EMM386: Warning: Address line A20 is already enabled"10:39
zone17I think it's libqt3-dev, but then I get broken dependencies, hmm10:40
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fortysixand2and it said nothing about the repos from ubuntu guide.10:40
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raven3x7zone17? it doesnt install?10:40
zone17dabaR, what is the problem with backport?10:40
zone17raven3x7, no10:40
grimsterwhat does the error "EMM386: Warning: Address line A20 is already enabled" mean?10:41
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nikkiagrimster: it means you're using the wrong OS :P10:41
raven3x7zone17, libqt-dev i mean10:41
dabaRzone17: well, no problem, a feature:)10:41
grimsteruh10:41
grimsternikkia: how do i fix that lol10:41
HappyFoolzone17: i suspect libqt3-mt-dev is correct10:41
zone17raven3x7, nothing called just libqt-dev, only libqt3-dev10:42
zone17yes10:42
HappyFoolzone17: i can help you install it if i can see your sources.list10:42
zone17HappyFool, I am on it :-) one moment10:42
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zone17HappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/73110:43
phixionanyone know why im having probs dloading in firefox? e.g. i click on a link containing a .tar.gz and it does nothing10:43
raven3x7zone17 bacports may be creating that problem10:43
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dabaRzone17: the feature is that backports contain newer packages. Some of these packages can cause breakage of some sort...If you leave backports opened, if you update, you get all the new versions, even if you dont need them. Backports should only be uncommented while getting a specific package from them.10:43
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arugrimster: awesome! :)10:43
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zone17davaR, ok thanks! I didn't know10:43
yahalomi just setup my router so i no longer need pppoeconf to dial my connection, how do i turn it off?10:44
HappyFoolzone17: hmm. you have more than one universe entry10:44
aarcanehey, the settings I set in kcmsell kdm aren't showing up in kdm after I log out or even restart KDM..  what gives ?10:44
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HappyFoolzone17: and the same for multiverse10:44
dabaRzone17: sure10:44
raven3x7HappyFool, really didnt know that?10:44
gicHi again, could someone please help me to get mp3 decoding up and running please?10:44
aru!mp310:45
ubotuaru: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:45
aruarse10:45
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HappyFoolraven3x7: you can check out the pastebin url to see what i'm talking about10:45
aruwhat is it, restricted?10:45
aru!restricted10:45
anachronismHappyFool, i think "poff" is the command to turn it off10:45
uboturumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:45
arugic: try that link10:45
dabaRfor dsl, poff dsl-provider10:45
zone17HappyFool, but they are not the same, are they wrong?10:45
gicaru, thank u10:45
aruno problem10:45
arusomeone should set !mp3 to do the same as !restricted, I do !mp3 first every time10:46
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raven3x7HappyFool, i was actuallly asking about multiverse. wasnt really clear about that though10:47
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HappyFoolzone17: try this10:47
Seveasubuntu mp3 is read http://wiki.ubutnu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support10:47
BobaFettHey guys... im a bit lost with the gnome panel... how can I add folders with launchers into the 'applications' part of my gnome menu?10:47
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Seveasubotu mp3 is read http://wiki.ubutnu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support10:47
ubotuokay, Seveas10:47
HappyFoolzone17: sorry, try this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/73210:47
Seveasubotu divx is read http://wiki.ubutnu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about divx support10:47
ubotuokay, Seveas10:47
aru!mp310:47
ubotuhmm... mp3 is read http://wiki.ubutnu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support10:47
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aruawesome10:48
Seveasubotu quicktime is read http://wiki.ubutnu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about quicktime support10:48
ubotuSeveas: okay10:48
HappyFoolzone17: i've left backports uncommented, but you may want to comment them out for day-to-day use10:48
zone17HappyFool, thanks - I'll try that!10:48
Seveasubotu dvd is read http://wiki.ubutnu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about dvd support10:48
user12how to switch between lang ?10:48
ubotu...but dvd is already something else...10:48
dabaRaru, could you?10:48
HappyFoolzone17: remember to run 'sudo aptitude update' after changing sources.list10:48
arudabaR: what?10:48
DekaPinkHuh... You -can- put ubuntu on an xbox...10:48
zone17yes10:48
hmrochawhat package do i need to listen to AAC audio files in totem ?10:49
grimsterwhat mobo would you guys recommend for a amd64 3700+ socket 754?10:49
aru!dvd10:49
ubotudvd is, like, There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem10:49
Seveashmrocha, read the page i've been feeding ubotu :)10:49
DekaPinkhttp://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/1833 Too bad I can't understand it. xD10:49
HappyFoolraven3x7: multiverse is distinct from universe; multiverse is 'non-free' software, for various values of non-free10:49
grimsteranyone?10:49
annei am having trouble whith mozilla firefox, to be able to use the bank services and other things, i need to get firefox to allow pop ups, how do i fix that10:49
aruSeveas: guess we need !aac also :)10:49
Seveasubotu aac is read http://wiki.ubutnu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about aac support10:49
ubotuSeveas: okay10:49
Seveasaru, feel free to add things yourself too10:50
user12;) what is the key i can switch between langs   ? like alt + shift ?10:50
raven3x7HappyFool, but how could it break dependencies?10:50
grimsteraru10:50
aruSeveas: I wasn't sure how it worked10:50
arugrimster: yes?10:50
grimsterwhat mobo would you recommend for a amd64 3700+ socket 754?10:50
HappyFoolraven3x7: zone17 had two universe entries, and two multiverse entries10:50
grimsteri think im just going to return this one10:50
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arugrimster: I have no experience with 64bit anything, so I'm not the right person to ask :)10:50
HappyFoolraven3x7: that may not have caused problems, but if the mirrors got out of sync.. well, i don't know what would happen10:51
grimsterknow anyone who is?10:51
Seveasaru, it's simple: ubotu foo is bar bazz quux would add !foo to point to bar baz quux10:51
zone17HappyFool, I get this result with your source.list http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/73310:51
raven3x7HappyFool, ok i get it now sorry10:51
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aruSeveas: I'm just afraid my entries would end up looking like your example :)10:51
BobaFettHey guys... im a bit lost with the gnome panel... how can I add folders with launchers into the 'applications' part of my gnome menu?10:51
HappyFoolzone17: hmm. comment out backports10:51
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zone17have already done that10:51
SynapseRBobaFett : sudo apt-get install smeg10:52
fran7join #ubuntu-es10:52
HappyFoolzone17: erk10:52
zone17yes erk lol10:52
dabaRBobaFett: there is a program called smeg10:52
annei need to allow pop up commercial on the web, how can i do that10:52
HappyFoolzone17: let me see what happens if i install it here10:52
zone17HappyFool, really? Thanks!10:52
dabaRCheck out smeg.realista.org or something like that, or just type in smeg menu editor for gnome in google10:52
HappyFoolzone17: i get no conflicts here10:53
HappyFoolzone17: i'm not actually installing, just running the command10:53
KyralGah, when the hell is Thunderbird 1.0.6 gonna enter Breezy?10:53
graabeinstone roses s/t + red wine. cheers people!10:53
zone17HappyFool, what then could be causing my error?10:53
dabaRanne: what browser are you using?10:53
SynapseRanyone know how to enable bluetooth with rfcomm ?10:53
zone17And how do I fix it10:53
BobaFettSynapseR: smeg doesn't let me add folders right into the menu, I have to build the separate launchers... I have Crossover's launchers inside a folder in the .gnome2 folder in Home, but I can't get them to show in my menu :(10:53
HappyFoolzone17: maybe you have a package installed which is conflicting10:53
annefirefox10:53
recoverI tried to add a chrome file for mozilla-firefox that didn't exists, still, firefox doesn't react to the file, the case is correct, does this have anything to do with ubuntu/apt-get system?10:53
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dabaRanne I think the web features tab in Edit>Preferences/properties does that.10:54
dabaROr one of those tabs.10:54
SynapseRdid you try 'killall gnome-panel'10:54
zone17HappyFool, how do I find out which program that is?10:54
HappyFoolzone17: what does 'dpkg -s libqt3c102-mt|grep Version' say ?10:54
dabaRzone17: what program was it again that you are installing?10:54
HappyFoolzone17: lets try the packages listed in that error message10:54
AmaranthBobaFett: file a bug in crossover's bugzilla or whatever10:54
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AmaranthBobaFett: all paying customers should have access to it10:54
zone17HappyFool, Version: 3:3.3.4-310:55
HappyFoolzone17: ah10:55
annejust removing the block doesnt help10:55
HappyFoolzone17: i have Version: 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu310:55
zone17hmm, ok10:55
BobaFettAmaranth: But if it doesnt show up on the menu, it should be a gnome issue, right? my crossover works just fine...10:55
HappyFoolzone17: i would guess you've installed a backports qt/kde app?10:55
AmaranthBobaFett: no, it's a crossover issue10:56
AmaranthBobaFett: They aren't setting something up right10:56
supernixanyone know what is best to rip a cd ?10:56
HappyFoolzone17: if not, you can try to force an install of the ubuntu version10:56
dabaRanne what site?10:56
zone17HappyFool, proberly.. and trying to apt-get remove the packages.. ofcourse then 500 others needs to be removed :-)10:56
Amaranthtrust me, i know more about the menuing system than anyone really wants to :)10:56
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SeveasAmaranth, lol :)10:56
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HappyFoolzone17: well, you can try to run this command: 'sudo aptitude install libqt3c102-mt=3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3' and see what conflicts are raised10:57
anneweb editor, http editor, to enter the bank to pay bills and so10:57
BobaFettOkay...will pay a visit to crossover's bugzilla then :)10:57
BobaFettthanks guys! :)10:57
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zone17HappyFoo, I have no problem running that command and installing10:58
hmrochaSeveas, what page? (sorry, i wasn't here)10:58
HappyFoolzone17: hmm10:58
HappyFoolzone17: ok, now try installing libqt3-mt-dev10:58
HappyFoolzone17: maybe it was upgraded from backports just because there was a newer version available10:59
Seveas!aac10:59
ubotuit has been said that aac is read http://wiki.ubutnu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about aac support10:59
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HappyFoolzone17: in which case, warnings about not using backports would appear to be justified ;)10:59
zone17HappyFool, than I get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/73410:59
nonedeadhey10:59
dabaRwhat is the URL anne?10:59
zone17Yes indeed!10:59
benwcdoes any one know a where I can find a precompiled kernel with ip_alias built in?10:59
catolhArgh, X lag's when i copy stuff from my DVD-rom.. Any way to make it stop?10:59
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HappyFoolzone17: hmm. ok, stand by...11:00
nonedeadhow do i fix wine11:00
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nonedeadi want to play a game11:00
misfit_toynonedead, that's a pretty vague question11:00
nonedeadwhat do i do11:00
annedabaR i am quite new at using ubuntu, so you have to explaine like youre telling a kid how to do things. url is http://tylldalen.net11:00
hmrochaSeveas, thanks, i'll read that11:00
HappyFoolzone17: what does 'sudo aptitude install libxft-dev' say?11:00
dabaRYa, sorry, anne.11:00
dabaRone sece11:01
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b00hey,  this ubuntu box im using, doesnt have a gcc  (i.e, no link to actual gcc-3.4)11:01
b00is that a broken install or what ?11:01
zone17HappyFool, looks like a lot of mess "libxft-dev: Depends: libfontconfig1-dev but it is not installable"11:01
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hmrochaSeveas, the link is not correct11:01
hmrochaSeveas, s/ubutnu/ubuntu11:01
mpmcWhere can I get more looks for Gnome?11:01
nonedeadwhat do i do when i want to install a windows game11:01
searcher`b00: sudo apt-get install build-essential11:01
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raven3x7b00, its not installed by default. use apt-get install build-essential11:02
HappyFoolzone17: maybe we need to rollback all of these to the hoary versions11:02
ompaulwhat way can you determine which packages come from a particular repository?11:02
fran7join #ubuntu-es11:02
AntonGLI need help to format my memory stick, mkdosfs says I am trying to create a too large file system...11:02
zone17HappyFool, how is that done?11:02
raven3x7searcher`, you beat me to it11:02
ompaulI'll rephrase that what way can you determine which installed packages come from a particular repository?11:02
emXhey all; trying to get my brother's warty->hoary upgrade polished off...still can't get sound to work.11:02
gicman, ubuntu liveCD is pure porn! =)11:02
zone17HappyFool, you don't need to explain, perhaps just a link..11:02
Seveashmrocha, argh indeed11:02
b00searcher`, raven3x7 ok11:02
mpmcWhere can I get a new look for gonme?11:02
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Seveasubotu aac is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about aac support11:02
ubotu...but aac is already something else...11:02
HappyFoolzone17: for each package, do this: 'apt-cache show <package-name>|grep ^Version'11:02
Seveas!forget aac11:02
ubotuSeveas: i forgot aac11:02
Seveas!forget mp311:02
ubotui forgot mp3, Seveas11:02
Seveas!forget quicktime11:02
ubotui forgot quicktime, Seveas11:02
Seveasubotu aac is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about aac support11:03
dabaRhttp://tylldalen.net does the front page right away open a pop up?11:03
HappyFoolzone17: e.g., for libxft-dev, you'll see this:            Version: 2.1.2-6ubuntu111:03
dabaRSeveas: why not msg the bot?11:03
Seveasubotu aac is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about aac support11:03
ubotuokay, Seveas11:03
SeveasdabaR, good point11:03
b00whats inside build-essential ?11:03
HappyFoolzone17: so the version you want is 2.1.2-6ubuntu111:03
b00links ?11:03
b00compiler, linker, make , all seems to be here11:03
mpmcAnyone?11:04
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HappyFoolzone17: to install that version, do this: 'sudo aptitude install <package>=<version>'11:04
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Seveasmpmc, art.gnome.org / gnome-looko.org11:04
mpmcwhere can I get new looks for gnome?11:04
raven3x7b00, all the basic stuff for compiling11:04
nonedeadanyone help11:04
mpmcok11:04
Seveasgnome-look.org that is11:04
mpmclol11:04
HappyFoolzone17: e.g., 'sudo aptitude install libxft-dev=2.1.2-6ubuntu1'11:04
La_PaRCahey11:04
HappyFoolzone17: hmm11:04
mpmchttp://art.gnome.org11:04
HappyFoolzone17: as long as apt-cache doesn't also show installed versions11:04
zone17HappyFool, ok I think I got it, thanks a lot!11:05
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anneno, when i enter the editor, i am editing and running that wrb site, and has done that in windows for a long time, but after using ubuntu i cant edit my site because its blocked when i enter my password11:05
HappyFoolSeveas: i don't suppose you know how apt-cache works if there's an installed package no longer available via apt? will it show the apt-gettable version, or the installed version?11:05
nonedeadmisfit11:05
dabaR[16:04] CWC-DanB[66298] 650366676311:05
dabaRCelia Needed username and password for the account. Verified security, reset password with permission. Educated on secret question and changing password. Confirmed able to log in.11:05
antonymousOkay, who wants to play a fun game called help out the n00b?11:06
HappyFoolzone17: all the versions should have the word 'ubuntu' in them11:06
searcher`HappyFool: apt-cache shows you the cached version of the repositories you are using11:06
ompaulb00 lots of good stuff apt-cache depends build-essential11:06
SeveasHappyFool, apt-cache shows all installed and available versions, so in the case you mention it will show the installed version only11:06
dabaRanne: weird. Tried using another browser to see?11:06
La_PaRCaAntonGL, It depends... how useful/clueful is this n00b subject?11:06
HappyFoolSeveas: bother11:06
zone17HappyFool, yes11:06
antonymousI just installed hoary on a B&W G3, and for some reason I can't figure out how to mount the second hard drive11:06
HappyFoolzone17: ok, scrap that idea11:06
epilocheh, aimsniff is fun11:06
La_PaRCaantonymous,  It depends... how useful/clueful is this n00b subject?11:06
searcher`Seveas: apt-cache shows installed packages as well?11:07
nonedeadmisfit_toy: can u help me get wine to work11:07
dabaRsudo aptitude install epiphany-browser will install another browser similar to ff, to try.11:07
HappyFoolzone17: ok, you can find the version numbers via packages.ubuntu.com11:07
annewhen i try to enter my web site, i get blocked and can not get in, what about netscape, maybe thats a possibility11:07
misfit_toynonedead, I don't use wine, sorry11:07
hmrochaSeveas, it's working, thanks :)11:07
zone17HappyFool, no problem11:07
Seveassearcher`, apt-cache policy does11:07
misfit_toynonedead, have you tried asking in #wine?11:07
nonedeadthen what do u use for win emulation11:07
antonymouswell, for some reason I can run ubuntu fine on my PC, but I can't remember what I did to set up my 2nd HD on that11:07
HappyFoolzone17: there's another possibility which i haven't tried -- you can maybe get apt-get to downgrade using pinning11:07
Seveassearcher`, HappyFool apt-cache search will not11:07
misfit_toynonedead, crossover office, but rarely11:08
Seveasapt-cache show will (afaik)11:08
HappyFoolSeveas: apt-cache show is probably similar to apt-cache policy ?11:08
epilochttp://www.aimsniff.com/11:08
SeveasHappyFool, apt-cache show shows all package info, policy shows the version available and which one it wil install / has installed11:08
ompaulantonymous fdisk -l /dev/hdb might be a good place to start11:08
AntonGLCan someone show me how to format my usb stick?11:08
benwchas anyone ever installed ip_alias.o  if so can you point me in the right direction?11:08
zone17HappyFool, yes I am reading about that actually now, I'll try that. Thanks again!11:09
SeveasAntonGL, mkfs.vfat /dev/sda (oslt)11:09
HappyFoolzone17: ok, good luck11:09
antonymouswhoa, there's a second anton...I'll give that a shot paul, thanks11:09
ompaulHappyFool, to get the high up or low down apt-cache --help :)11:09
zone17Thanks! :-)11:09
HappyFoolompaul: yeah, i'm looking at the man page, but niggly details like this aren't too clear11:09
AntonGLSeveas it says i am trying to make too large a file system...11:10
AntonGLthe stick is only 128 mb11:10
hmrochaSeveas, i'll switch all computers in my department from mandrake to ubuntu :)11:10
SeveasAntonGL, then browse through the manpage for mkfs.vfat :)11:10
Seveashmrocha, rock on! :)11:10
hmrochaSeveas, i think the students will like it11:10
hmrochaSeveas, i've been distributing ubuntu cd's to the students11:11
antonymoushmmm...fdisk gives me an I/O error on hdb11:11
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ivanholas11:11
dabaRolah.11:11
dabaR!es11:11
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:11
hmrocha!pt11:12
ubotuhmm... pt is http://pt.ubuntuguide.org/   Obrigado Autor: Chua Wen Kiat Co-Autor: Marco Da Silva Helper PT: Tiago Geada11:12
ompaulantonymous and what is that error11:12
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dabaRnice. ubuntuguide link:)11:12
HappyFoolheh11:12
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HappyFooli thought we were casting aspersions on ubuntuguide, and there ubotu is recommending it! ;)11:13
antonymousompaul: I think my 2nd HD is on hdd, so I tried "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd" and it listed the correct HD11:13
tritiumHappyFool, yes, ubuntuguide should not be recommended, in general11:13
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antonymous/dev/hdd3 is the Apple_UNIX_SVR2 untitled (the biggest one)11:13
sorush20hi guys.. its me again...11:14
tritiumI know, HappyFool11:14
ompaulantonymous, so now you should see what way you had it laid out11:14
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dabaRhey sorush20 .11:14
antonymousompaul, yes I can see how it's laid out, but I still don't really know how to mount it11:14
sorush20I'm very close to a breakthough.... after a whole day....11:14
sorush20I'm using a network card that isn11:15
antonymousompaul: do I need to edit fstab?11:15
ompaulantonymous,  okay so the thing is how do you want to mount it if you mkdir /foo then you can mount /dev/hdd1 /foo now this information can be put in /etc/fstab11:16
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ompaulantonymous, entries like --> /dev/hda9       /srv            ext3    defaults        0       2  would help11:17
user12where is Control Center11:17
user12?11:17
ompauluser12, gnome-control-center ?11:17
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Seveasuser12, all applications in gnome-control-center can be started from the system menu11:17
antonymousompaul: sorry if I wasn't giving enough info11:17
antonymoushere's what I haphazardly threw into my fstab a few minutes before joining the chat:11:18
antonymous/dev/hdd/ext3defaults0011:18
aruAntinomy: great fstab page http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html11:18
ompaulantonymous you want to mount it as / that is not good as / belongs to your working system11:18
ompaulantonymous, care for a pm?11:19
user12could not found gnome control panel .. !11:19
antonymousah, I shouldn't mount as /?11:19
Seveasuser12, gnome-control-center11:19
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ompaulantonymous, mind if I pm you?11:19
antonymoussure, I'm even MORE of a n00b at IRC though, don't know much about pm11:20
antonymousyes, please do11:20
ompaulohh sugar11:20
user12i try  but i try system preference and could not found it11:20
aruantonymous: that link was for you11:20
user12where is gnome-control-panel11:21
antonymousoops, forgot to say thanks...I was too busy reading it...thank you!11:21
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aruantonymous: my nick completion gave someone elses nick :)11:21
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sorush20anyone here using ndiswrapper11:22
SynapseRwhat dialup program is there in ubuntu ?11:22
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HappyFoolSynapseR: the network adminstration tool should let you setup dial-up11:23
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aru!fstab11:23
ubotuaru: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:23
HappyFoolSynapseR: System -> Admin -> Networking11:23
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HappyFoolSynapseR: if you care, i think the guts are driven by pppd/wvdial; you can also setup a dial-up config on the command line with pppconfig11:24
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SynapseRmodem (ppp0) is not configured11:24
SynapseRwhen I rightclick configure,11:24
SynapseROK is greyed out no matter what i enter11:24
nonedeadhow do i run .sh files11:24
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SynapseRalso /dev/rfcomm0 is not listed under modem ports11:25
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AMCDeathKnighthi11:25
DekaPinkPah... Damn my apparently not supported video card... Or something. :311:25
HappyFoolSynapseR: click on the modem, then click on properties. hmm -- are you running ubuntu 4.10 or 5.04?11:25
nonedeadow do i run the .sh files11:25
SynapseRmy cellphone is paired to the notebook11:25
SynapseR5.0411:25
SynapseRvia bluetooth11:25
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nonedeadcan some one help me11:26
HappyFoolSynapseR: hmm. sorry, i don't know much about getting that side of bluetooth working11:26
DekaPinkI'm guessing that when I do fglrxinfo, it should tell me like... ATI... instead of what it does... which is mesa3d. :311:26
HappyFoolnonedead: try 'chmod a+x <thefilewhichendsin.sh>' and then './<thefilewhichendsin.sh>'11:26
nonedeadhey can some one help me11:26
nonedeadwhat11:27
SynapseRHappy, but even if i choose my normal modem , th OK button is still greyed out11:27
nonedeadwhat does that mean11:27
HappyFoolDekaPink: 'glxinfo|grep direct' says this on my machine:           direct rendering: Yes11:27
nonedeadim new to linux11:27
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HappyFoolSynapseR: where is this?11:28
nonedeadhappy fool: im new to linux11:28
HappyFoolnonedead: right click on the file and choose 'Properties'11:28
HappyFoolnonedead: then click on the 'Permissions' tab11:29
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SynapseRunder network settings -> modem connection (right click -> configure)11:29
nonedeadok11:29
nonedeadok11:29
HappyFoolnonedead: opposite 'Owner', tick the 'Execute' box, then click 'Close'  (execute must be ticked)11:29
HappyFoolnonedead: then double click the file11:29
DekaPinkHappyFool: It's telling me no.11:29
phixionhappyfool, can you help me? I am having problems saving links on websites e.g. if theres a link to a .mp3 and i click it, firefox does nothing - is it part of the firefox probs or something else?11:30
nonedeadhow do i get into the root11:30
HappyFoolSynapseR: ok, i have right-click -> Properties, but much the same thing, i guess11:30
HappyFoolphixion: might be, i don't know11:30
HappyFoolDekaPink: ok, sorry, i was being silly: that just confirms your drivers aren't accelerating, as you thought11:31
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HappyFoolDekaPink: an alternative test, i suppose11:31
nonedeadhappy: im not owner11:31
phixionok cheers, do you happen to know of a newsgroup downloader app with nzb support?11:31
DekaPinkHappyFool: Well... Thanks, I guess. :D11:31
HappyFoolphixion: i don't know what that is, sorry ;)11:31
HappyFoolphixion: try 'apt-cache search nzb'11:31
phixionok thx again :)11:32
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HappyFoolSynapseR: i think you might need to enter the required info for the OK button to be ungreyed11:32
phixionwell, basically .nzb files give you all the files you need to dload on the newsgroups for a certain release, so u dont have to keep refreshing the entire group :)11:33
DoonzErr http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports Release.gpg11:33
Doonz  Could not connect to ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net:80 (66.90.101.204), connection timed out11:33
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HappyFoolSynapseR: i'm guessing you're using GPRS or something ?11:33
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Doonzthats what im getting when i try updating more repositories11:33
DekaPinkAnd I'm trying to ./ a file and it's saying the command isn't found... I know there's something I can do abotu this... just can't remember exactly what... :311:33
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abbe80how can I list all files in a dir that starts with "b" ?11:33
HappyFoolDekaPink: chmod a+x <thefile>11:33
recoverWhich java package do I need for azureus to work?11:34
HappyFoolabbe80: 'ls b*'11:34
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DekaPinkHappyFool: Thank you... :-D Sorry I'm so slow. Hehe.11:34
everett_Quick question for anyone who has built kernel-headers with kernel-package, I installd the .deb created by running make-kpkg kernel headers, and cd into /usr/src/kernel-headers.2.4.10/ but when I run make I get mv: cannot stat `include/asm-i386/asm_offsets.h.tmp': No such file or directory make: *** [include/asm-i386/asm_offsets.h]  Error 111:34
abbe80:-)11:34
HappyFoolDoonz: that backports mirror is probably down; you can maybe use another mirror. I think they're listed at the backports site11:35
SynapseRyep GPRS11:35
Doonzbackport site?11:36
SynapseRthats what i'm trying to get working11:36
Doonzgot an addy?11:36
DaSkreechAllr ight Let do this11:36
DaSkreechLeeeerroooooyyyyy11:36
HappyFool!backports11:36
ubotuhmm... backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports11:36
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DaSkreechJenkins!!!!11:36
HappyFoolSynapseR: i may be wrong, but i think GPRS won't look like a normal modem11:37
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anachronismDaSkreech, it's off-topic, but i saw that movie-file too11:38
HappyFoolSynapseR: hmm. nothing on gprs on the wiki, it appears11:38
anachronismDaSkreech,  forgot to add "lol" to my message11:39
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wezzer-good evening11:39
wezzer-can I share public folders (authentication=no) and home folders (authentication=yes) in same time using samba?11:39
HappyFoolSynapseR: googling for 'ubuntu gprs' yields some hits, like this one: http://wildbill.nulldevice.net/archives/000104.html11:40
anachronismDaSkreech, "at least i have chicken"11:40
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DaSkreechMy hero11:40
DaSkreechNO Words!11:40
HappyFoolwezzer-: you should be able to11:40
DaSkreechIt detracts from the now Dahling11:40
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wezzer-HappyFool: what should I put into smb.conf line: security = user / share ?11:40
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annewhat do i do to install opera browser on my computer, step by step11:41
tirzahhowdy; ? for anyone, I've been seeing some discussions regarding java, and unfortunately I need it; I've installed (per starterguide inst); but FireFox still insists its missing the JRE is there anothre step I'm needing?11:41
HappyFoolwezzer-: security = user, i think11:41
everett_could someone tell me why /usr/src/Kernel-headers-2.6.10 is incomplete after doing make-kpkg kernel-headers ??11:41
HappyFoolwezzer-: in the share definition, you put this for anonymous access:  guest ok = yes11:41
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wezzer-HappyFool: ahum, that sounds cool11:42
wezzer-HappyFool: I'll try11:42
HappyFoolwezzer-: read 'man smb.conf' for (much) more11:42
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Yukiwhat is the command to get KDE on ubuntu?11:43
hybrid_gothYuki: sudo apt-get install kde11:43
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Yukikk tyty11:43
HappyFoolYuki: easiest is to install the kubuntu-desktop package11:43
hybrid_gothor download kubuntu11:43
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tirzahwhy is KDE considered better than GNOME?11:43
hybrid_gothtirzah: by who?11:44
HappyFooltirzah: why is coca-cola better than pepsi?11:44
tirzahgood point11:44
thenuketirzah: it is not?11:44
annei have to install opera in my computer, anybody know ho to do that, since that program is not in the synaptic11:44
Deterministanne, using the deb package11:44
tirzah?11:44
HappyFool!opera11:44
ubotu[opera]  a very powerful and speedy web browser with a superfluity of features while placing stress upon visual aesthetics. Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/11:44
tirzah:)11:44
thenuketirzah: but of course it is if you ask the ones who like KDE more11:44
anne i am new at this so i need step by step please11:44
tirzahok11:44
hybrid_gothi saw opera in breezy11:45
hybrid_gothrepos11:45
hybrid_gothunder nonfree11:45
hmrochaSeveas, is X still broken in breezy?11:45
tirzahI'm using Opera right now...11:45
HappyFoolanne: go to that URL (www.opera.com/download/)11:45
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Deterministanne, ok , go to that address ubotu just posted , download the latest version's .deb package11:45
HappyFoolanne: i presume there are further instructions there; if not, ask for more help11:45
Deterministi wish this last reinstall would work :/11:46
Yukiin synaptic, will installing kubuntu desktop be enough for KDE or do I need to mark ALL of them for installation?11:46
hybrid_gothubuntu need to have it set so double clicking .debs would run dpkg -i on them11:46
tirzahOk, does anyone know how to get java to work in Firefox?  I've got sun-jre (whatever ver) installed, restarted FF, but yet FF still says I'm missing JRE..11:46
Deterministi just backed up 60 gigs of data to a friend's drive and am reinstalling winxp and hoary for the dual boot hoping it'll work this time :/11:46
HappyFoolYuki: as hybrid_goth suggested, you can just install kde -- kubuntu-desktop probably gets other things too11:46
hybrid_gothYuki: you would download kubuntu but if you already have ubuntu install kde11:46
annei have done that and its successfully saved on my computer, but i dont know how to find it there and get it started11:46
Yukikk11:47
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Yukiso just the kubuntu desktop package then?11:47
HappyFoolanne: ok; you need to start a terminal (Applications -> System tools -> Terminal)11:47
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hybrid_gothYuki: outta work11:47
Yukiwhat about kubuntu live and kubuntu default settings?11:47
HappyFoolanne: do you know where the file you downloaded is?11:47
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hybrid_gothdont worry of kubuntu live11:47
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stvnogra: you there?11:48
Yukiok, what about default settings then?11:48
annefile management i think, in norwegian arkivhndtering11:48
epilocdoes anyone here have experience with PCAP ?11:48
hybrid_gothYuki: if you want them11:48
funkyHatis firefox from backports safe (i.e. = more likely to work than current hoary build! :|) to use?11:48
HappyFoolanne: um. ok, let's hope we can find it11:48
Yukiwhat are they for?11:48
hybrid_gothepiloc: isnt that used in windows11:48
funkyHatand can i get back to the hoary build if i need to?11:48
hybrid_gothYuki: defualt settings i.e. themes and such11:48
annenow i am in terminal11:49
hybrid_gothYuki: if you are new grab them11:49
HappyFoolanne: ok, does 'ls *.deb' list the opera file you downloaded ?11:49
Yukikk11:49
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epilochybrid_goth, no.11:49
epilochybrid_goth, you are thinking of winPcap i think11:49
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annei am so stupid about this, i dont understand what you mean11:49
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hybrid_gothepiloc: ah b/c i remember something like that from my win days :)11:50
george_hi11:50
epilochybrid_goth, like all things, that was stolen from unix11:50
annetell me what to write in the terminal11:50
hybrid_gothepiloc: ah go figure11:50
george_ubuntu rocks11:50
epilocim trying to do a little packet sniffing on my network11:50
HappyFoolanne: type this:                    ls *.deb11:50
hybrid_gothepiloc: win32Pcap i think11:50
postmoderndoes gnome-ppp come on the ubuntu install cds?11:50
HappyFoolanne: then <enter>11:50
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everett_Anyone here use make-kpkg kernel_headers before?11:51
Yukiwhich is better: kopete or GAIM?11:51
hybrid_gothepiloc: yes i know of it dont know it11:51
george_dont know11:51
postmodernyuacht, gaim for gnome imho11:51
postmoderner11:51
postmodernYuki, gaim for gnome11:51
Yukiwhat about kde?  I won't be using gnome anymore11:51
annecommand not found it says11:51
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obvious_ronWhat do I need to do to get the main Firefox build (1.0.6) via Synaptic?11:51
HappyFoolanne: the file you downloaded is called this, right? : opera-static_8.01-20050615.1-qt_en_i386.deb ?11:52
funkyHatYuki, kopete11:52
postmodernYuki, use kopete then11:52
Yukikk ty11:52
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HappyFoolanne: hmm, that's odd11:52
anneyes11:52
Kyralobvious_ron, its out of Apt11:52
KyralIf you want it you need to build it from the Breezy Source11:52
HappyFoolanne: 'ls *.deb' says command not found ?11:52
AndrewcoolHello11:52
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anneyes , is there space between ls and * maybe11:52
HappyFoolanne: that's an ell (lowercase L), not a one (1)11:53
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HappyFoolanne: yes, there is a space11:53
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AndrewcoolI just got my new Ubuntu cds..using the live cds for now :D11:53
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teferii fucking well should be after the past week11:53
annei understand and wrot l for lover11:53
george_how do i get soundjuser to rip mp3s11:53
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HappyFoolanne: ok, sorry, just trying to guess the error11:54
drackohey, im new linux user, how i can compile kernel to do new changes?11:54
HappyFoolanne: did it list any files now?11:54
HappyFoolnew linux users do not usually need to compile kernels ;)11:54
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obvious_ronKyral: I'm a newbie, so building from source code is Greek to me.  ^_^11:54
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nubbeobvious_ron, u have to add a Backports staging repository11:55
drackolol11:55
hybrid_gothobvious_ron: it isnt hard11:55
annei am just grateful for your help. is it root terminal or just terminal i must write commands in11:55
HappyFoolanne: just terminal11:55
LinuxJonesdracko, you should not compile your own kernel unless you absolutely have to.11:55
ubuntu_I have a question on the installation on Ubuntu11:55
hybrid_gothif in terminal you must sudo11:55
hybrid_gothroot you dont11:55
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drackowell, i wanna learn, is i dont learn how to compile kernel, well i think i back to window system11:55
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drackolol, my englis is very very bad11:56
hybrid_gothdracko: there is a pkg that guides you through it but i cant think of the name11:56
annethats what i did, could you maybe take me step by step throug download again11:56
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HappyFoolanne: you have downloaded the file; we just need to find it11:56
andrewcool2Dracko: Can you help me with the installation of Ubuntu11:57
HappyFoolanne: type this command, and tell me what the output it:   'find -name opera-static_8.01-20050615.1-qt_en_i386.deb'11:57
demirghi, can anyone help me about nvidia-rivafb conflict???11:57
drackoi downloaded the most new linux kernel version, but i waanna change my actually version for the new one11:57
HappyFoolanne: you can cut-and-paste from x-chat to the terminal11:57
HappyFoolanne: select the text with the mouse, right-click and choose 'Copy'; then, in the terminal, right-click and choose 'paste'11:58
crimsundemirg: sure, what do you need to know?11:58
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HappyFooloh bother, x-chat doesn't have right-click copy11:58
hybrid_gothhighlight11:58
hybrid_gothit11:58
HappyFoolanne: sorry; in x-chat, select the text with the mouse and press Ctrl-C to copy11:58
hybrid_gothhold ctrl and press c11:58
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hybrid_gothHappyFool: ;-P11:59
crimsundracko: 2.6.12.3 or 2.6.13-rc3[-git5] ?11:59
andrewcool2Can somebody help me with the expert mode of Ubuntu11:59
HappyFoolhybrid_goth: annoying interface glitch in my opinion11:59
hybrid_gothandrewcool2: ask your question11:59
hybrid_gothHappyFool: i prefer irssi11:59
demirgcrimsun: when i try to install nvidia driver it gives me warning saying that rivafb conflicts with nvidia, it may prevent nvidia from running correctly and it doesn't :)11:59
nebularcd #winehq12:00
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