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| bddebian | \sh_away: I'm heading out for a while but if you come around, octave builds fine in a pbuilder if you rip out the gcc4 patch. | 02:10 |
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| tseng | ajmitch: have an idea how to reinstall conf files that I removed? | 02:36 |
| tseng | ajmitch: --force-confmiss is no help | 02:36 |
| tseng | --force-all even | 02:36 |
| ajmitch | that's what mdz suggested.. but it was a dpkg option iirc | 02:39 |
| ajmitch | let me look it up | 02:39 |
| tseng | that is dpkg | 02:40 |
| ajmitch | apt-get --reinstall -o dpkg::options::=--force-confmiss <package> | 02:40 |
| ajmitch | with an install thrown in there | 02:40 |
| ajmitch | ok.. | 02:40 |
| tseng | i did dpkg -i --force-all | 02:40 |
| ajmitch | what package is it? | 02:40 |
| tseng | krb5-admin-server | 02:41 |
| ajmitch | just some conf files missing/ | 02:41 |
| ajmitch | ? | 02:41 |
| tseng | yes | 02:41 |
| tseng | well, it might actually be /var | 02:41 |
| ajmitch | otherwise I'd suggest purge & reinstall | 02:41 |
| tseng | done that too | 02:41 |
| ajmitch | damn | 02:41 |
| ajmitch | another resort is install in chroot, copy conffiles from there | 02:42 |
| ajmitch | but that's jst getting ugly | 02:42 |
| tseng | Starting Kerberos Administration Servers: kadmind: No such file or directory while initializing, aborting | 02:42 |
| tseng | open("/var/lib/krb5kdc/principal", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 02:43 |
| tseng | ah | 02:43 |
| tseng | i know how to create that I think | 02:43 |
| tseng | done | 02:43 |
| ajmitch | pre/postinst wasn't working properly? | 02:43 |
| tseng | well post tries to start the server | 02:44 |
| tseng | but no domain setup | 02:44 |
| tseng | on the first install it just opens a debconf window and tells you to make one | 02:44 |
| tseng | fixed in any case | 02:45 |
| tseng | strace++ | 02:45 |
| ajmitch | ah | 02:45 |
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| tseng | ajmitch: rebuilding blam here fixed the symbol problem | 03:15 |
| tseng | ajmitch: i just uploaded a bump, we'll see what happens | 03:15 |
| ajmitch | rebuilding didn't fix it for me | 03:17 |
| ajmitch | because I consistently got the warning about S_ISSOCK | 03:17 |
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| tseng | well i loaded up blam no problem | 03:18 |
| tseng | after rebuild | 03:18 |
| tseng | before it just crashed | 03:18 |
| tseng | hm inotify broke | 03:18 |
| tseng | in new kernel | 03:18 |
| tseng | or similar | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | I didn't build in pbuilder, which could have influenced it | 03:19 |
| tseng | i didnt either | 03:19 |
| tseng | i was feeling lazy | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | we'll find out soon then | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | blam probably needs updated for MONO_SHARED_DIR anyway | 03:19 |
| tseng | i thought i did that | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | I didn't check :) | 03:20 |
| tseng | i did not | 03:20 |
| tseng | what a lazy git | 03:20 |
| tseng | i actually shouldve merged new debian version | 03:23 |
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| ajmitch | looks like we've done a bit of c++ transitioning where it wasn't needed, according to debian-devel | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | libs implemented in C++ that export a C ABI | 04:10 |
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| bddebian | Hey ajmitch did you send up that patch? | 04:23 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: sorry, which patch? | 04:29 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: The class issue you helped me with the other night | 04:31 |
| ajmitch | ah, I thought you were working on that :) | 04:31 |
| ajmitch | since it was just a dpatch-edit-patch, add one line | 04:31 |
| bddebian | I can't even remember which package.. :-) | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | licq | 04:33 |
| bddebian | And of course everything I have been doing has been wrong.. :'-( | 04:33 |
| ajmitch | uh, why do you say that? | 04:34 |
| bddebian | Because I looked at over 10 packages in MOTUToMerge and was using source from the archive not from MOM.. :'-( | 04:35 |
| bddebian | I thought I asked tseng that but maybe I didn't phrase the question properly. | 04:36 |
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| bddebian | Jesus octave takes far too long to build | 05:01 |
| === tritium has not used Jesus octave. Is it better than gnu octave? ;) | ||
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| bddebian | :-) | 05:20 |
| tritium | just messing with you, bddebian ;) | 05:20 |
| bddebian | I know man :-) | 05:21 |
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| bddebian | \sh_away: I'm heading for bed. I put a new patch up for octave. If you get a sec, could you check it out for me? Thanks. https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12413 | 07:01 |
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| zanaga | hmmh.. should i file a bug against qemu to drop dependencies for proll and openhackware (which aren't in universe atm) or just bug someone to get them in to universe? | 10:12 |
| zanaga | qemu works just fine without them. | 10:12 |
| zanaga | and neither of them build out of the box on breezy | 10:12 |
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| ivan_ | can anybody tell where can I find a universes repository? | 10:23 |
| \sh | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu | 10:24 |
| ivan_ | thanks | 10:24 |
| \sh | ivan_: u need the sources.list? | 10:25 |
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| ivan_ | ya if its ok with you | 10:25 |
| \sh | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu main restricted universe multiverse | 10:25 |
| ivan_ | thanks | 10:25 |
| ivan_ | \sh: there seem to be an error, is it because i'm using ppc? | 10:30 |
| \sh | argl | 10:31 |
| \sh | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse | 10:31 |
| \sh | i missed the release | 10:31 |
| \sh | too early in the morning sorry | 10:31 |
| ivan_ | ok thanks | 10:32 |
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| siretart | zanaga: do you think you could provide a debdiff with changes needed for the current qemu package in breezy? | 10:58 |
| zanaga | siretart: sure | 10:58 |
| siretart | zanaga: if yes, send me the debdiff, I'll happily review it | 10:58 |
| ajmitch | hi siretart, * | 10:58 |
| siretart | huhu ajmitch | 10:58 |
| \sh | ah motu is waking up ,-) | 10:59 |
| zanaga | but it's just 2 lines, moving proll and openhackware from dependency to suggests (or recommends) no other changes | 10:59 |
| siretart | hi \sh :) | 10:59 |
| siretart | zanaga: ah. i see. | 10:59 |
| siretart | zanaga: why do you think the debian qemu maintainers have them in depends? | 10:59 |
| \sh | fixing kwave first..and then I have to check where this bloody libXcursor.la is coming from | 11:00 |
| ajmitch | \sh! | 11:00 |
| zanaga | siretart: as far as i can see openhackware is for PPC emulation, it provides a bios for full PPC emulation. proll is javastation PROM, so i would guess that is a bios for javastation emulation | 11:01 |
| zanaga | bochsbios provides support for x86, which we already have. | 11:01 |
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| siretart | hm. why aren't they in ubuntu, then? | 11:01 |
| ajmitch | license issues? | 11:02 |
| zanaga | as far as i can see openhackware fails to buils. | 11:02 |
| ajmitch | nah, shouldn't be... | 11:02 |
| zanaga | same goes for proll | 11:02 |
| zanaga | build even | 11:02 |
| siretart | zanaga: did these dependencies were added with the latest merge, and I didn't notice? | 11:02 |
| zanaga | yup | 11:02 |
| zanaga | i didn't notice them either before | 11:02 |
| siretart | damn | 11:03 |
| zanaga | openhackware fails to build due to an invalid flag for gcc | 11:03 |
| siretart | then I'd suggest that try to get proll and openhackware built and included into universe | 11:03 |
| zanaga | proll failed for some other reason | 11:04 |
| siretart | the problem is, that I'm way too busy to do that right now | 11:04 |
| siretart | :( | 11:04 |
| zanaga | does pbuilder leave build logs somewhere? | 11:04 |
| siretart | no, but debuild does | 11:04 |
| siretart | but I think you could pipe pbuilder through tee(1) | 11:05 |
| zanaga | too bad X is too broken atm, i can't get a pipe char atm ;) | 11:06 |
| ajmitch | hehe | 11:06 |
| ajmitch | I've heard a few people having that problem | 11:06 |
| siretart | zanaga: | <- here you are ;) | 11:06 |
| zanaga | thanks.. | 11:06 |
| === ajmitch hasn't restarted his X server for quite awhile | ||
| ajmitch | siretart: copy & paste might not work either :) | 11:07 |
| zanaga | i'm building with pbuilder now.. | 11:07 |
| zanaga | cc -c -Wall -g -O2 -fno-builtin -fno-common -nostdinc -mregnames -DBUILD_DATE=2005-07-24 -DBUILD_TIME=09:06:58 -Isrc/ -Isrc/libc/include -I/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.2//include -Isrc/dev -Isrc/dev/block -Isrc/dev/char -Isrc/dev/bus -DBIOS_BASE=0x05800000 -DBIOS_SIZE=507904 -Wa,-mregnames -o .objs/vectors.o src/vectors.S | 11:07 |
| zanaga | cc1: error: invalid option 'regnames' | 11:07 |
| siretart | ajmitch: oh. damn :( | 11:07 |
| === zanaga wonders how that came out | ||
| ajmitch | siretart: poor fabbione was having real issues with that | 11:07 |
| siretart | ajmitch: I can imagine | 11:07 |
| zanaga | gaim -> jabber -> irc, is not the best combination =) | 11:07 |
| ajmitch | zanaga: probably an option removed from gcc 4.0 | 11:07 |
| zanaga | it doesn't work with gcc-2.95 which was the original build dep for it | 11:08 |
| siretart | zanaga: try building with gcc-3.4 | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | -mregnames | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | -mno-regnames | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | On System V.4 and embedded PowerPC systems do (do not) emit regis | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | ter names in the assembly language output using symbolic forms. | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | hardly important.. :) | 11:08 |
| zanaga | dropping and trying | 11:08 |
| siretart | yeah | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | (from info gcc-3.3) | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | it's still in the 4.0 info pages | 11:09 |
| siretart | the -m flags are architecture specific | 11:09 |
| zanaga | lets see now | 11:10 |
| ajmitch | perhaps it is misdetecting the architecture | 11:10 |
| zanaga | neat | 11:10 |
| zanaga | it builds.. | 11:10 |
| zanaga | i wonder if it works too ;) | 11:10 |
| ajmitch | heh | 11:10 |
| siretart | zanaga: you rock! | 11:10 |
| zanaga | hmm.. lets see if qemu can boot my PPC hoary cd | 11:10 |
| zanaga | no, wait.. i misread =( | 11:12 |
| \sh | *grmpf* | 11:13 |
| \sh | argl | 11:13 |
| \sh | i can't build kde stuff again | 11:13 |
| \sh | * Stop installing libXcursor.la. | 11:13 |
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| \sh | and all .la from kde are referencing libXcursor.la | 11:13 |
| \sh | *banghisheadonthedesk* | 11:14 |
| ajmitch | \sh: evil | 11:14 |
| siretart | \sh: be careful, this could hurt. much | 11:14 |
| \sh | ajmitch: yes...and I'm looking for an issue in the source | 11:14 |
| ajmitch | most likely in the libtool abyss | 11:15 |
| \sh | I should prio all mails from daniels...bold, red, blink | 11:15 |
| \sh | yeah...cd /usr/lib/kde3/ ; grep libXcursor.la * > messed | 11:15 |
| zanaga | curses.. | 11:19 |
| zanaga | the instruction is required | 11:19 |
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| \sh | hmmm...3 pbuilder on a 1.6GHz machine is not fast enough *grrr* | 12:42 |
| ajmitch | heh | 12:42 |
| \sh | cleaning the merge list | 12:42 |
| === ajmitch is trying to get mini-dinstall setup that it runs pbuilder on install | ||
| ajmitch | plus a few other checks :) | 12:42 |
| \sh | kwave , pycaml, rpy | 12:43 |
| \sh | phew | 12:43 |
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| slomo | \sh: why have you linked the buildlogs of mol in the bugreport? | 12:52 |
| \sh | slomo: to show that it build | 12:52 |
| slomo | ah ok ;) | 12:53 |
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| \sh | hmmm...it looks like that I'm trying to let the buildds burn ,-) | 12:54 |
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| slomo | \sh: do you know why bogofilter is built and fails over and over again on the buildds? | 12:58 |
| \sh | slomo: no...:( | 12:59 |
| ajmitch | missing tdb-dev | 01:02 |
| slomo | ajmitch: yes but why is the building retried endlessly? | 01:04 |
| ajmitch | because it'll sit there & retry forever | 01:05 |
| ajmitch | yes it's annoying :) | 01:05 |
| ajmitch | I don't know why it's not in dep-wait | 01:06 |
| \sh | damn...now I have to patch everything by myself | 01:08 |
| ajmitch | \sh: why? | 01:08 |
| \sh | ajmitch: rezound...I found a patch for some issues with gcc4 and the patch is not applying correctly :( | 01:08 |
| ajmitch | ah | 01:09 |
| ajmitch | I thought you meant that you had to do the whole MOM merging by yourself :) | 01:09 |
| \sh | nono ,-) | 01:13 |
| \sh | or I hope not ,-) | 01:14 |
| tseng | ajmitch: blam wfm | 01:14 |
| ajmitch | tseng: yeah, I see it compiled cleanly, thanks | 01:15 |
| slomo | \sh: have you already tested the kwave patch? | 01:26 |
| \sh | slomo: it's building..and applying..but I have some debian/rules problems :( | 01:29 |
| \sh | just now I'm patching rezound :( | 01:29 |
| slomo | \sh: yeah it's building... but does it really work? ;) don't send this out in the wild before running it please ;) | 01:30 |
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| \sh | slomo: I don't have any clue about what I'm using it for ,-) | 01:32 |
| \sh | but I will test it :) | 01:32 |
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| slomo | \sh: wonderful ;) i even don't know what kwave is good for =) i think you can somehow open a flac file and look somewhere at the tags... and the vendor field is the interesting... should be something like "Encoded by...." | 01:33 |
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| \sh | slomo: let's have a look..I'm installing it now ;) | 01:34 |
| \sh | slomo: works :) | 01:36 |
| \sh | actually no segfault...but I don't have any flac file with vendor settings[ | 01:36 |
| slomo | every flac file has one... isn't there somewhere something like "Encoded by:"? | 01:37 |
| ajmitch | hmm, pbuilder & mini-dinstall won't work well | 01:38 |
| slomo | the vendor field contains the name of the encoder | 01:38 |
| ajmitch | since I won't usually upload an orig.tar.gz with it | 01:38 |
| \sh | you load a flac-file and then you have the file infos | 01:38 |
| slomo | ok... well it doesn't segfault so it seems to work... weird flac api ;) | 01:39 |
| \sh | now lets hope that it compiles for the other archs | 01:42 |
| \sh | now it goes for rezound | 01:49 |
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| \sh | ok..patch applied correctly | 01:51 |
| ogra | \sh, www.grawert.net/mediawiki_1.4.7-0ubuntu1_all.deb | 01:53 |
| ogra | ;) | 01:53 |
| ogra | no configuration yet.... | 01:53 |
| tseng | hm awesome @ mediawiki | 01:53 |
| ogra | yes, but there is still some way to go for the package to get rid of commandline config... | 01:54 |
| \sh | damn another bug | 01:55 |
| ogra | you still have to chmod the config dir... etc... | 01:55 |
| slomo | wahh... X11/XKBlib.h includes X11/extensions/XKBstr.h which is not in libx11-dev but somewhere else ;) | 01:56 |
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| herve | morning | 01:57 |
| \sh | slomo: apt-file is your friend ,-) | 01:58 |
| slomo | \sh: but this only searches in installed packages? | 02:00 |
| \sh | no | 02:01 |
| \sh | sudo apt-get install apt-file curl | 02:01 |
| \sh | sudo apt-file update | 02:01 |
| slomo | hm ok, thanks :) a new candidate for my toolbox ;) | 02:01 |
| \sh | ok..another patch generated | 02:02 |
| \sh | rebuilding rezound | 02:02 |
| \sh | and it looks like we have to rebuild some stuff from kde main :( libXcursor.la is not installed anymore ,-) | 02:03 |
| slomo | hmm... why has /usr/X11R6/include disappeared? | 02:15 |
| \sh | it should be /usr/include/X11 now or something similar | 02:16 |
| herve | I think /usr/X11R6 is the one disappearing | 02:16 |
| herve | and not only because X11R7 is close :-) | 02:16 |
| \sh | lol | 02:17 |
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| slomo | hehe ok :) on what version of X is the breezy version based? 7.0pre or 6.9pre? | 02:17 |
| === ajmitch fights apache & mod_rewrite :) | ||
| ajmitch | yay, it works | 02:18 |
| herve | you have no excuse, the rewrite rule doc is quite good :-) | 02:20 |
| \sh | what the helll | 02:20 |
| TheMagus | Is there anyone around who can answer some questions regarding filing bugs in malone? | 02:20 |
| \sh | i386,amd64,ia64 successfull, ppc failed | 02:20 |
| \sh | gcc -pipe -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/gc -O2 -DUSE_GC=1 -Istage2 -Ilib -I- -c stage2/RealMath.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/RealMath.o | 02:21 |
| \sh | cc1: note: obsolete option -I- used, please use -iquote instead | 02:21 |
| herve | I guess malone changed a lot last time I used it | 02:21 |
| ogra | TheMagus, just ask and see | 02:21 |
| herve | which was maybe two month ago | 02:21 |
| TheMagus | well, how am I supposed to file them in order for them to be addressed? | 02:21 |
| herve | \sh, gcc 4 or 3.4? | 02:21 |
| herve | a bug is meant to be addressed, no? :-) | 02:22 |
| TheMagus | I filed a bug (469) that hasn't been addressed for months... all that's needed is a re-import of the Debian package | 02:22 |
| ogra | ajmitch, btw, did you care for pymad ? | 02:23 |
| herve | ho it's more of a human issue than a malone issue | 02:23 |
| TheMagus | herve, so what can I do to fix it? | 02:23 |
| ogra | become a MOTU ? ;) | 02:24 |
| ogra | poke us even harder ? :) | 02:24 |
| ogra | or wait :) | 02:24 |
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| herve | I'm consufre, fix the bug or the package? | 02:24 |
| TheMagus | I have a few of those bugs... they're reported in Malone, I also reported them in Debian, they're fixed in Debian, but still not in Breezy | 02:24 |
| herve | I can't even find what package it is on the malone page | 02:24 |
| TheMagus | ogre, who do I poke? where do I find a stick long enough? | 02:24 |
| ogra | terrex, please dont do that | 02:25 |
| TheMagus | herve, the package is sl-modem | 02:25 |
| herve | seriously, guys | 02:25 |
| ogra | TheMagus, you just fond it in here :) but i also saw your mail.. i'll get imported, dont worry... additionally we have bugday every wednesday ... | 02:26 |
| herve | malone got a clean interface | 02:26 |
| herve | so clean you can't even find the package! | 02:26 |
| ogra | s/i'll/it'll | 02:26 |
| comadreja | hello all :) nice to be with again | 02:26 |
| herve | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1109 | 02:26 |
| comadreja | \sh, I saw your upload | 02:26 |
| herve | tell me I'm not blind and the word sl-modem is not written on this page | 02:27 |
| ogra | herve, yes | 02:27 |
| TheMagus | ogra, nice | 02:27 |
| herve | I'm blind? :-) | 02:28 |
| TheMagus | herve, I can see the string "sl-modem" on my page | 02:28 |
| ogra | TheMagus, in 1109 ? | 02:28 |
| TheMagus | ogra, no, not 1109, 469... I did mention I filed a few bugs, right? | 02:28 |
| herve | even so, there's no package information on this page | 02:29 |
| ogra | TheMagus, yes, i was wondering why herve searched for sl-modem in there | 02:29 |
| \sh | comadreja: good :) | 02:29 |
| comadreja | \sh: the other one... is there a problem with it ? | 02:29 |
| herve | ogra, I search for a package name | 02:29 |
| ogra | gringotts | 02:29 |
| TheMagus | herve, 469 is on sl-modem... 1109 is on gringotts... | 02:29 |
| ogra | its written there | 02:29 |
| TheMagus | ogra, herve, 1177 is on gnucash | 02:30 |
| herve | Ubuntu gringotts | 02:30 |
| herve | I thought it was some silly name indicating the bug is in ubuntu | 02:30 |
| ogra | yeah | 02:30 |
| ogra | herve, nope, thas right... gringotts could have the same bug in gentoo or redhat... so this prefix is required | 02:31 |
| TheMagus | ogra, another question on Malone... where do my bug reports go? I mean is there a mail sent somewhere or something? | 02:31 |
| herve | sure but the column is named "upstream / distro" | 02:31 |
| herve | not "distro / package" | 02:31 |
| ogra | TheMagus, mail and #ubuntu-bug ... we have a reporting bot :) | 02:32 |
| ogra | #ubuntu-bugs sorry | 02:32 |
| herve | TheMagus, gringotts is fixed in Debian? | 02:32 |
| ogra | herve, bug-upstream == distro bugtracker | 02:32 |
| TheMagus | herve, yes it is... the bug in Debian is 316043 (as mentioned in the Malone bug report :-) | 02:33 |
| ogra | so upstream for the bug would be redhat/gringotts for example | 02:33 |
| TheMagus | ogra, ah, nice to know they aren't totally lost :-) how many bugs are unresolved at the moment? | 02:34 |
| ogra | no idea... malone is still not widely used by us... we're starting slowly to do more in there.... | 02:34 |
| TheMagus | oh, ok, that also explains some things | 02:35 |
| ogra | its stabilizin and will be v1.0 very soon.. | 02:35 |
| TheMagus | I was starting to get really fed up with it, and the apparent inactivity on closing bugs in it | 02:35 |
| TheMagus | this means I won't give up | 02:35 |
| slomo | \sh: kwave haven't built on amd64 :( | 02:36 |
| ogra | but currently we have more important bugs to solve, we have a lot of ongoing transitions that should have been completed a while ago... we're lacking manpower... so the best to get your bugs closed is to help out in here ;) | 02:36 |
| herve | gringotts got important fixes in Debian | 02:36 |
| herve | we should get the latest package | 02:36 |
| ogra | i.e. see topic ;) | 02:36 |
| ogra | hmm, malone doesnt show the version... | 02:37 |
| TheMagus | ogra, yes... I've seen some mentions of C++ ransitions and stuff on the dev mailing list | 02:37 |
| ogra | if its a ubuntuX package it would be covered by the merge stuff | 02:37 |
| ogra | TheMagus, yes and we have some 200 open merge bugs that should have been solved on the 21st, X transition to modularization (which causes a lot of pain for us all) and the newest is a complete slang1/2 transition | 02:39 |
| TheMagus | ogra, ah, sounds painful indeed... | 02:39 |
| ogra | yep | 02:39 |
| TheMagus | if BT get their arse into gear and actually turns on ADSL in the area where we live I might try to chip in a bit | 02:40 |
| herve | TheMagus, you run breezy? | 02:40 |
| ajmitch | ogra: yes, done pymad, just haven't uploaded | 02:41 |
| TheMagus | herve, no, not yet... I just can't keep a Breezy system up-to-date over a modem connection | 02:41 |
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| ogra | ajmitch, ok, thanks a lot :) | 02:41 |
| herve | no, nothing | 02:41 |
| herve | breezy-changes say we have 1.2.1-4 | 02:42 |
| herve | but I have 1.2.8+1.2.9pre1-5 | 02:42 |
| herve | so our version got the fix | 02:42 |
| ajmitch | TheMagus: it just takes patience :) | 02:42 |
| TheMagus | herve, good... then that Malone bug (1109) can be closed | 02:42 |
| TheMagus | ajmitch, I don't have the time... I work full time and do this only weekends and evenings... plus I'm married | 02:43 |
| herve | once I get how to close a bug :-) | 02:43 |
| \sh | yay...4 patches in a row...that's too much for me today...and kwave failed on amd64 | 02:43 |
| ajmitch | TheMagus: ah, that is a little harder.. | 02:43 |
| herve | ajmitch is married too, no? :-) | 02:43 |
| ajmitch | herve: pfft, no | 02:43 |
| ogra | heh | 02:43 |
| herve | hehe | 02:43 |
| TheMagus | herve, I guess malone is about as intuitive for bug-closers as it is for bug-reporters ;) | 02:44 |
| slomo | \sh: and there isn't a buildlog for kwave... | 02:44 |
| TheMagus | ajmitch, yes... I need a faster connection to keep up | 02:44 |
| ogra | slomo, its not copied yet... wait some minutes | 02:45 |
| \sh | slomo: not now | 02:45 |
| \sh | but I don't understand oo2c ppc build | 02:45 |
| \sh | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/o/oo2c/1.5.9-4ubuntu1/ | 02:45 |
| \sh | and I hope rezound is building now, after I patched the holy crap out of it | 02:46 |
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| TheMagus | well, I'm off... thanks ogra and herve... nice to meet you all... hopefully I'll be able to be here a bit more after Wednesday (official cut-over date for ADSL here) | 02:46 |
| herve | yoohoo \o/ | 02:47 |
| ogra | TheMagus, we appreciate every helping hand even if its only on weekends for some hours ;) | 02:47 |
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| ajmitch | TheMagus: see you round :) | 02:47 |
| ogra | yeah | 02:47 |
| herve | at least, I think I closed the bug | 02:47 |
| ogra | you think ?? | 02:47 |
| herve | It's marked "fixed", nothing more | 02:48 |
| ajmitch | herve: malone is confusing you as well? ;) | 02:49 |
| herve | did I tell such a thing? :-) | 02:49 |
| \sh | yay...rezound is crap | 02:49 |
| TheMagus | ogra, I should be able to do that... no problem... I'll be back here asking for MOTU status ASAP | 02:49 |
| tseng | if you are confused by something in malone | 02:49 |
| tseng | you need to file abug with the use case | 02:49 |
| \sh | yahooo....i finally made it... | 02:50 |
| ogra | TheMagus, yay... i'm waiting for you ;) | 02:50 |
| tseng | or it will stay broken | 02:50 |
| herve | yes, making my way to it | 02:50 |
| TheMagus | herve, it shows up as 'fixed', that's good enough for me | 02:50 |
| TheMagus | ogra, you live in here? | 02:50 |
| ogra | half way, yes... | 02:50 |
| ogra | *g* | 02:50 |
| TheMagus | :) | 02:51 |
| TheMagus | well, see you in here soon again! | 02:51 |
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| ajmitch | ogra: uploaded pymad | 02:53 |
| ajmitch | hopefully I didn't break it too badly ;) | 02:53 |
| ogra | ajmitch, we'll see :) close the bug if it works ;) | 02:53 |
| ajmitch | works for me(tm) | 02:54 |
| ajmitch | I tested the upgrade a couple of times | 02:54 |
| herve | ok, my bugs are already reported | 02:55 |
| herve | 168, let's give them a rest :-) | 02:55 |
| herve | see you around | 02:56 |
| slomo | \sh: the kwave-amd64 problem lies upstream i think... there seems to be some assembler stuff in it | 02:56 |
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| zyga | who was packaging gnomebaker for amd64 recently? | 02:57 |
| \sh | slomo: *grrrrr* | 02:57 |
| \sh | finally I fixed rezound | 02:58 |
| \sh | and reported all patches to debian as well | 02:58 |
| \sh | hmm...ppc is also 64bit arch, right? | 03:01 |
| slomo | \sh: nope... normal ppc is 32bit but ppc64 also exists | 03:01 |
| \sh | so what arch we're building ppc for? 32 or 64? | 03:02 |
| slomo | 32 | 03:02 |
| \sh | grrrr... | 03:02 |
| slomo | why? | 03:03 |
| comadreja | can a package have two maintainers ? the merged version has two, is that a problem ? | 03:03 |
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| \sh | slomo: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/o/oo2c/1.5.9-4ubuntu1/oo2c_1.5.9-4ubuntu1_20050724-1250-powerpc-failed.gz | 03:04 |
| slomo | \sh: saw that... where is NaN (not a number?!) defined? | 03:05 |
| comadreja | slomo NaN is afaik a division by 0 | 03:05 |
| comadreja | slomo means Not a Number | 03:06 |
| slomo | comadreja: yeah but where is it defined? math.h? hmm *grepping* | 03:06 |
| \sh | slomo: I think it's something else..because of this -I- | 03:06 |
| slomo | \sh: well that will be in the x86 buildlog as well i think... | 03:07 |
| \sh | yeah | 03:08 |
| \sh | but I fix this as well | 03:08 |
| \sh | so lets check for NaN | 03:08 |
| slomo | i've grepped /usr/include and it's defined nowhere there... | 03:08 |
| comadreja | afaik it's a compiler thing, not defined anywhere, so it has to be defined in the program itself | 03:09 |
| zyga | NaN does not seem like a compiler thing, not i C at least | 03:10 |
| \sh | it's inside the source | 03:11 |
| \sh | "NaN' for illegal numbers. | 03:11 |
| \sh | IF Low.IsNaN(real) THEN COPY("NaN", str); RETURN END; | 03:11 |
| zyga | that looks like some very crappy language | 03:11 |
| slomo | \sh: hm, and why can't it be found by gcc? | 03:11 |
| slomo | \sh: wtf... what's that language? ;) | 03:12 |
| zyga | gnu basic ;-) ? | 03:12 |
| \sh | slomo: i don't have a clue...but it's only occuring on ppc | 03:12 |
| slomo | hm i'll test it later on ppc :) | 03:12 |
| \sh | oberon | 03:13 |
| \sh | oberon2 | 03:13 |
| \sh | I like wirth | 03:13 |
| slomo | hm | 03:13 |
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| \sh | hmmm | 03:20 |
| \sh | i would like to have 2.1.8 in the tree...cause this is maintained...1.5.9 is from 2002 *ugh* | 03:22 |
| slomo | is 2.1.8 in debian? | 03:22 |
| \sh | no...1.5.9 is latest in debian | 03:23 |
| Amaranth | anything depend on it? | 03:23 |
| Amaranth | well, i suppose you could have both.. | 03:24 |
| tseng | it depends on itselfg | 03:24 |
| tseng | thats about it | 03:24 |
| \sh | hmmm...libooc-xml | 03:24 |
| \sh | hmmm...libooc-x11 | 03:24 |
| \sh | hmmm...libooc-vo | 03:24 |
| tseng | im guessing thats the same source | 03:24 |
| \sh | no | 03:25 |
| slomo | hmm, i'll take the xfce4 stuff... or is anybody already working on it? | 03:26 |
| ogra | slomo, crimsun and jani are the xfce4 team... | 03:28 |
| ogra | we dont use debians xfce4 | 03:28 |
| slomo | ah ok... so close these bugs? | 03:28 |
| ogra | slomo, nope, but poke _them_ to do that and get the sync done... its UVF and they should already work on it... but i havent seen any sign they do so.... | 03:29 |
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| slomo | ogra: ok | 03:30 |
| slomo | crimsun is away over the weekend ;) | 03:31 |
| \sh | slomo: i have a patch for amd64 | 03:33 |
| slomo | \sh: for kwave? | 03:33 |
| \sh | jepp | 03:33 |
| slomo | cool :) | 03:34 |
| \sh | hmmm.. | 03:36 |
| \sh | applied but this is complaint by amd64 | 03:36 |
| \sh | *strange* | 03:36 |
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| \sh | lets revert the patch they applied and check | 03:42 |
| ajmitch | looks like I'll be doing all-night coding again :) | 03:42 |
| jsgotangco | ajmitch: sad, since its a nice sunday night..hehe | 03:43 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: yeah, but I need this done by tomorrow morning :) | 03:43 |
| ajmitch | s/tomorrow/this/ | 03:43 |
| ajmitch | :) | 03:43 |
| ogra | phew, dholbachs gparted packge get heavy critics in the utnubu ML | 03:49 |
| tseng | :/ | 03:50 |
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| ivoks | herve: ping | 03:57 |
| herve | yo ivoks | 03:58 |
| herve | really nice photographs | 03:58 |
| tseng | ogra: is there an archive of that? | 03:58 |
| ivoks | thanks | 03:58 |
| tseng | ogra: i proabbly have a few things on their list | 03:58 |
| ogra | tseng, dunno, i just got my first mail from the list and it was a gparted bashing one .... i havent looked for an archive yet | 03:59 |
| tseng | http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/utnubu-discuss/ | 03:59 |
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| \sh | ok..doing another upload of kwave | 04:02 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: that didnt sound nice at all from the looks of the mail | 04:02 |
| ogra | nope | 04:03 |
| tseng | man joss is such a tool | 04:04 |
| tseng | i think ill avoid reading this for awhile | 04:04 |
| zyga | btw why is ubuntu spelled backwards? | 04:11 |
| ajmitch | zyga: because it's a debian project to get ubuntu changes back into debian | 04:12 |
| jsgotangco | heh utnubu is a debian project to have ubuntu changes to debian | 04:13 |
| \sh | holy crap | 04:14 |
| \sh | clean: configure *grrrr* | 04:14 |
| zyga | heh :) | 04:15 |
| zyga | makes sense :) | 04:15 |
| zyga | something interesting cought my eye there | 04:16 |
| zyga | how fed up is everyone with autotools | 04:16 |
| \sh | hmmm....do I get an oscar if I manage to fix the merge list? ,-) | 04:20 |
| ajmitch | \sh: nah, just copious amounts of beer ;) | 04:21 |
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| \sh | my hands are paining ,-) | 04:23 |
| ogra | \sh, take a break, we _need_ you ! | 04:26 |
| ogra | (or do some inverstment and get a brain interface) | 04:26 |
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| ivoks | ogra: i'm working on backup software | 04:26 |
| ogra | yay | 04:27 |
| \sh | ogra: well... | 04:27 |
| ivoks | i guess it will be over for 1.9. | 04:27 |
| ivoks | ok, guys.. | 04:27 |
| ivoks | see you.. back to the beach | 04:27 |
| \sh | ogra: I'm waiting for some packages to compile and get into the archives...I have some which are build-dep on those | 04:27 |
| comadreja | \sh may I help you ? | 04:28 |
| \sh | but it looks like, that man is beating machine | 04:28 |
| ogra | *sigh* i know this situation... | 04:28 |
| \sh | comadreja: take whatever you like...put your name in the changelog...and send me the bugs via jabber | 04:29 |
| comadreja | \sh but any particular package ? | 04:29 |
| comadreja | \sh anyone that would help you ? | 04:29 |
| \sh | comadreja: no...any from the merge list which is not in pending state ,-) | 04:30 |
| comadreja | \sh which jabber address ? | 04:30 |
| \sh | sh at linux-server.org | 04:30 |
| \sh | I'm missing my at sign...*grrr* | 04:31 |
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| bddebian | Morning | 04:31 |
| ajmitch | hi bddebian | 04:31 |
| comadreja | hello there bddebian | 04:31 |
| bddebian | Hello ajmitch, comadreja | 04:31 |
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| herve | hello bddebian | 04:32 |
| bddebian | Heya herve | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | yay, mono install bug | 04:43 |
| \sh | ok..showering time..brb | 04:43 |
| ajmitch | tseng: looks like a manpage migrated into mono-utils, without it having the right conflicts, etc | 04:44 |
| tseng | ajmitch: yes | 04:44 |
| tseng | bug me in a bit | 04:44 |
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| ajmitch | sure | 04:45 |
| tseng | cvs co evolution-sharp -r0.7 | 04:47 |
| tseng | how do i checkout a tag | 04:47 |
| tseng | oh | 04:47 |
| ajmitch | same way, iirc | 04:48 |
| herve | think too | 04:48 |
| tseng | it was -r EVOLUTION_SHARP_0_7 | 04:50 |
| tseng | buh now that is stupid | 04:51 |
| tseng | beagle guys didnt bump configure check on evo sharp | 04:51 |
| tseng | but if you build with 0.6 it explodes horribly | 04:51 |
| tseng | better.. there is no 0.7 release, you have to pull the tag from cvs | 04:51 |
| bddebian | If I change the control file for build-deps I should bump the ubuntuX version right? | 04:55 |
| ajmitch | yes | 04:56 |
| bddebian | thx ajmitch | 04:57 |
| tseng | my beagle is only using 33m atm | 05:00 |
| tseng | we'll see if it makes anyones box fall over | 05:00 |
| ajmitch | let me try | 05:02 |
| ajmitch | I've never had beagle stay up longer than a few minutes due to mem usage | 05:02 |
| tseng | eh | 05:03 |
| tseng | you need to get evo-sharp from cvs | 05:03 |
| tseng | if you have time, thatd be great | 05:03 |
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| tseng | cvs co -r EVOLUTION_SHARP_0_7 evolution-sharp | 05:04 |
| tseng | from gnome cvs | 05:04 |
| tseng | then build beagle 0.12 | 05:04 |
| tseng | its up to 46mb res now | 05:05 |
| tseng | 22 shared | 05:05 |
| tseng | 16069 brandon 16 0 122m 62m 11m S | 05:07 |
| tseng | hm :/ | 05:07 |
| tseng | but i am running EXERCISE_THE_DOG=1 | 05:07 |
| === ajmitch has to get the build deps first | ||
| tseng | turns off all throttling | 05:07 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:07 |
| ajmitch | planning to package evo sharp 0.7? | 05:08 |
| tseng | yes | 05:08 |
| tseng | ill have to do an epoch or something | 05:08 |
| ajmitch | why would you need that? | 05:08 |
| tseng | because there is no 0.7 tarball | 05:08 |
| tseng | id be rolling my own | 05:08 |
| ajmitch | or go for the ugly 0.6.999+0.7 | 05:09 |
| ajmitch | or 0.7~1 | 05:09 |
| tseng | yes | 05:09 |
| bddebian | Heh | 05:09 |
| ajmitch | either way avoids the epoch | 05:09 |
| tseng | is epoch bad? | 05:09 |
| ajmitch | it's permanent | 05:09 |
| tseng | oh. | 05:09 |
| ajmitch | so you carry it round with you for the life of the package | 05:09 |
| tseng | ill take the first them | 05:09 |
| ogra | tseng, epoch is the worst you can do | 05:10 |
| tseng | 0.6.99+0.7 | 05:10 |
| tseng | i was thinking 0.6.99_epoch | 05:10 |
| tseng | or something like that | 05:10 |
| tseng | +0.7 makes sense | 05:10 |
| ajmitch | ah | 05:10 |
| tseng | oh you guys mean epoch-as-version | 05:11 |
| ajmitch | epoch is like 1:version | 05:11 |
| ogra | yep | 05:11 |
| tseng | i was going to tack it on the end | 05:11 |
| tseng | heh | 05:11 |
| ajmitch | that's not so bad then | 05:11 |
| tseng | +0.7 is cleaner | 05:11 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 05:11 |
| ajmitch | though still not very clean | 05:11 |
| ajmitch | but it's what you commonly see | 05:12 |
| ajmitch | for things like 2.0alpha | 05:12 |
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| tseng | well im pretty happy with beagle 0.12 | 05:12 |
| tseng | ill package today and see what amd64 guys have to say | 05:12 |
| tseng | ogra: i think/hope ill get an amd64 from the laptop program | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | great | 05:13 |
| ogra | tseng, did you het mail from claire ? | 05:13 |
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| ogra | s/het/get | 05:13 |
| tseng | ogra: the email wasnt clear, but thats why im on it | 05:13 |
| ogra | tseng, great... i didnt... :/ | 05:14 |
| tseng | hm | 05:14 |
| === \sh neither :( | ||
| ogra | they know how busy i am :) | 05:14 |
| tseng | it does say "community members" :P | 05:14 |
| === ajmitch was never on the laptop team list | ||
| tseng | not "canonical dudes" | 05:14 |
| ajmitch | ah well | 05:14 |
| === \sh is no canon food dude ,-) | ||
| === tseng is community member #0 | ||
| === ajmitch is just a lazy bum | ||
| bddebian | amen | 05:15 |
| bddebian | :-) | 05:15 |
| ajmitch | quiet you | 05:15 |
| tseng | im not sure how to return this to claire, i have no printer/fax | 05:15 |
| \sh | actually...are there 3ghz laptops? ,-) | 05:15 |
| jsgotangco | ogra: im surprised | 05:15 |
| tseng | i wonder if she can take a gpg clearsign | 05:15 |
| bddebian | \sh: Did you happen to see my "notes" last night? | 05:16 |
| jsgotangco | yeah i dont have a printer either | 05:16 |
| \sh | tseng: snail mail | 05:16 |
| tseng | \sh: i could fax it before that | 05:16 |
| jsgotangco | i should buy one of those multifunction printers | 05:16 |
| \sh | bddebian: "notes"? which one | 05:16 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, i wouldnt have th etime... once i have istallable edubuntu CDs you wont see me anymore bcause i have to test and tweak all the time | 05:16 |
| tseng | if i bought a printer i could fax it at office max | 05:16 |
| \sh | bddebian: I don't have a backlog of IRC | 05:16 |
| bddebian | \sh: Ahhh | 05:16 |
| tseng | bye ogra :( | 05:16 |
| jsgotangco | lol | 05:17 |
| bddebian | \sh: I wondered if you could look at the octave diff I put up on the bug? | 05:17 |
| ogra | tseng, it wont be _this_ bad... but i'll be heavily busy | 05:17 |
| ajmitch | ogra: we'll miss you | 05:17 |
| ogra | heh | 05:18 |
| ajmitch | by then, hopefully dholbach will be around to lead the MOTUs | 05:18 |
| \sh | bddebian: will do...let me finish the asc upload..takes a while....442kbit/s upstream + 9 MB source == slow like hell | 05:18 |
| ajmitch | if \sh doesn't take up that role ;) | 05:18 |
| ogra | i'll be back ! | 05:18 |
| bddebian | \sh: No rush, thanks | 05:18 |
| \sh | ajmitch: no ways | 05:18 |
| bddebian | Later ogra | 05:18 |
| ajmitch | \sh: heh, why not? | 05:18 |
| ogra | \sh, ?? not ?? | 05:18 |
| \sh | it's enough for me to have my job + night duties + packaging and fixing stuff | 05:19 |
| tseng | ajmitch: i still have memory free | 05:19 |
| ogra | \sh, we already planned 6h/day for you ... | 05:19 |
| tseng | ajmitch: a whoping 11mb :) | 05:19 |
| ogra | :) | 05:19 |
| \sh | we can talk about it in 1 1/2 years time, when I need to search a new job | 05:19 |
| ajmitch | tseng: great | 05:19 |
| ogra | \sh, nah, volunteering 6h/day indeed... | 05:19 |
| \sh | ogra: who is we, and why that? ,-) | 05:19 |
| ajmitch | ogra: 6h/day isn't much :) | 05:19 |
| ogra | ajmitch, lets raise it to 10h ? | 05:20 |
| ajmitch | be nice, 8 will do | 05:20 |
| \sh | u guys r crazy | 05:20 |
| \sh | when should I have sex? | 05:20 |
| ogra | ok, 8.5 .... | 05:20 |
| tseng | make it quick | 05:21 |
| tseng | and youll be fine. | 05:21 |
| ogra | lol | 05:21 |
| jsgotangco | man my wife is playing around with google earth and im green with envy at the moment.... | 05:21 |
| tseng | the little bit i saw of google earth didnt look that useful | 05:22 |
| \sh | what does this mean? universe/sound/rezound_1: Not-For-Us [optional:] | 05:22 |
| jsgotangco | tseng: lots of eye candy though | 05:22 |
| tseng | yes | 05:23 |
| tseng | bbl | 05:23 |
| jsgotangco | i can even see our house in chicago.. | 05:23 |
| bddebian | OK darnit. packagesearch build-deps libdebtags1-dev (>= 1.0.3) and as far as I can tell we only have libdebtags-dev 0.9.9 | 05:25 |
| bddebian | Should I try it with just libdebtags-dev 0.9.9? | 05:27 |
| slomo | bddebian: look at what have changed between the versions and try if it builds ;) | 05:40 |
| jsgotangco | *yawn* good night folks | 05:41 |
| ajmitch | night jerome | 05:41 |
| ajmitch | hmm, nearly 4am here :) | 05:41 |
| bddebian | slomo: It depends libdebtags1-dev and we don't have it | 05:41 |
| jsgotangco | ajmitch: you should sleep hehe | 05:41 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: I'll sleep after work today - I think I'll leave at about lunchtime or so :) | 05:41 |
| slomo | bddebian: try with libdebtags-dev ;) | 05:42 |
| jsgotangco | alright :) | 05:42 |
| ajmitch | slomo: it probably won't work | 05:42 |
| slomo | jamessan: maybe | 05:43 |
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| bddebian | Nope, it pukes.. :'-( | 05:46 |
| ajmitch | hi Arrogance | 05:46 |
| bddebian | So what should I mark the bug as "upstream" ?? | 05:47 |
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| Arrogance | hi aj | 05:47 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:comadreja] : ubuntu-meeting | ||
| tseng | uh | 05:47 |
| comadreja | what ? | 05:47 |
| tseng | sigh | 05:47 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: you could always just ask that we have libdebtags1-dev in breezy :) | 05:47 |
| comadreja | sorry, do I have privileges for that ?! | 05:47 |
| ajmitch | comadreja: yes... | 05:47 |
| comadreja | damn | 05:47 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Aye fair enough but shouldn't I tag the bug for now? | 05:47 |
| ajmitch | if someone has what the topic used to be, please restore it | 05:48 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:slomo] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | for reviewing (NEW or updated)? go here: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/ | First priority: MERGING , deadline was 2005-07-21 buglist: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge | http://wiki.debian.net/?EtchSlang2upgrade | ||
| comadreja | does anyone have the old topic | 05:48 |
| tseng | good job slomo | 05:48 |
| ajmitch | thanks slomo | 05:48 |
| comadreja | thanks :D | 05:48 |
| tseng | :) | 05:48 |
| bddebian | slomo is my hero again!! :-) | 05:48 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: yes, write something, whatever you need.. | 05:48 |
| slomo | tseng: there's a new cowbell release ;) i'm packaging it atm :) | 05:48 |
| tseng | slomo: rock on! | 05:49 |
| tseng | slomo: he fixed my bug | 05:49 |
| tseng | or feature request rather | 05:49 |
| tseng | im using cvs | 05:49 |
| tseng | s/cvs/svn | 05:49 |
| \sh | if you have not enough work...come get some ,-) | 05:50 |
| === \sh bangs his head | ||
| ajmitch | \sh: can I defer it a day? :) | 05:50 |
| ajmitch | I've got to get this work done in the next ~5 hours ;) | 05:50 |
| ajmitch | and irc is far too distracting | 05:50 |
| \sh | ajmitch: I'm cxx trans some libs which r missing *grrr* | 05:50 |
| ajmitch | \sh: ? | 05:51 |
| \sh | some libs are not finished by the cxx trans | 05:51 |
| bddebian | Gotta run for a bit | 05:53 |
| ajmitch | \sh: fine, I'll note those that are just very broken | 05:54 |
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| slomo | tseng: it's uploaded on revu | 05:55 |
| \sh | ajmitch: check ace ,-) | 05:55 |
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| ajmitch | like libcrypto++, evil thing that it is | 05:56 |
| ajmitch | btw your wine upgrade broke my games ;) | 05:56 |
| tseng | ogra: are we allowed to upload NEW packages to universe | 05:56 |
| ajmitch | wb ogra | 05:56 |
| \sh | ajmitch: good ,-) | 05:56 |
| ajmitch | pff :P | 05:56 |
| \sh | ajmitch: actually it's not newed anymore ,-) | 05:57 |
| ajmitch | ? | 05:57 |
| \sh | ajmitch: the binaries were newed :( only god knows why | 05:58 |
| ajmitch | yes | 05:58 |
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| ajmitch | and I got the new package in an upgrade | 05:58 |
| ajmitch | and now diablo 2 complains about directx | 05:59 |
| \sh | ajmitch: test them | 05:59 |
| \sh | those are scotties packages from winehq | 05:59 |
| ajmitch | I know | 05:59 |
| \sh | btw..he never replied to my mail | 05:59 |
| \sh | :( | 05:59 |
| tseng | hm i wonder if starcraft plays nicely full screen | 05:59 |
| \sh | so I have those packages now on my ass | 05:59 |
| tseng | i tired it a few years ago and it played slowly, and only allowed a very small window | 06:00 |
| ajmitch | it used to play nicely | 06:01 |
| ajmitch | I played it recently in a window | 06:01 |
| ajmitch | not as fun as diablo 2 though | 06:02 |
| ajmitch | evil broken source | 06:02 |
| === ajmitch hacks some more | ||
| tseng | anyone tried halflife on wine? | 06:03 |
| slomo | tseng: yes, I've tried it years ago ;) wasn't much fun but it worked... | 06:03 |
| tseng | too bad all my cds are at my parents house | 06:03 |
| tseng | holy crap, \sh is a madman | 06:07 |
| tseng | dholbach jr. | 06:07 |
| \sh | what | 06:07 |
| tseng | you are uploading like crazy :) | 06:08 |
| \sh | crap | 06:08 |
| tseng | no, its good | 06:08 |
| \sh | only getting rid of this old crap ,-) | 06:08 |
| ajmitch | yeah, my gmail account is straining under the load | 06:08 |
| \sh | and my laptop was burning this morning and afternoon | 06:08 |
| \sh | 3 to 4 pbuilder parallel | 06:09 |
| ajmitch | heh | 06:09 |
| ajmitch | insane | 06:09 |
| \sh | hmmm...openvrml 0.14.3 is obsolete | 06:10 |
| \sh | 0.15.9 maintained | 06:10 |
| ajmitch | isn't vrml obsolete? :) | 06:10 |
| \sh | well..not for the frozenapps list | 06:10 |
| \sh | *grrr* | 06:10 |
| \sh | why did I ask infinity | 06:11 |
| \sh | ogra: how do i go with it? It looks like that openvrml needs a new version :( | 06:12 |
| \sh | 0.14.3 is not maintained anymore from upstream | 06:13 |
| \sh | hmmm | 06:15 |
| \sh | mozilla-plugin development..which package? | 06:15 |
| ajmitch | firefox-dev ? | 06:16 |
| \sh | no...mozilla-dev | 06:17 |
| \sh | I hope...;) | 06:17 |
| \sh | ok...let it build..need some food | 06:17 |
| ajmitch | not sure if we're using mozilla-dev for anything, or moving everything to firefox | 06:20 |
| tseng | ive moved all my stuff to firefox-dev | 06:20 |
| tseng | rdepends on mozilla might be a good indicator? | 06:21 |
| ogra | tseng, rather NEW then new upstream versions of existing packages ;) | 06:21 |
| \sh | I'll try it first with mozilla and then firefox | 06:21 |
| ogra | \sh, ask for a sync, ok with me to overrid UVF for that | 06:22 |
| \sh | ogra: no sync..debian is just old | 06:22 |
| ogra | hmm... | 06:22 |
| ogra | \sh, its a merger ? | 06:23 |
| \sh | and their r no gcc4 patches at upstream for 0.14.3 | 06:23 |
| \sh | ogra: cxx | 06:23 |
| \sh | trans | 06:23 |
| \sh | and that was the reason noone took it ,-) | 06:24 |
| \sh | and Ihave the crap again on my **** | 06:24 |
| ogra | what is planned in debian ? any bugreports there etc.. ? | 06:27 |
| ogra | (probably doko can tell) | 06:27 |
| \sh | no | 06:28 |
| \sh | nothing...i checked...and upstream is refering to new releases | 06:28 |
| ogra | oki | 06:29 |
| \sh | i need to get the build-deps straight | 06:29 |
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| \sh | woah...build-deps correct...building now | 06:35 |
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| \sh | damn | 07:33 |
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| \sh | hey DanielN | 07:52 |
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| DanielN | \sh, hey! glad to be back again :) | 07:58 |
| bddebian | \sh: Hey, I have to get back to painting but any chance you had a sec to look at octave yet? | 07:58 |
| \sh | bddebian: I'm just fcking the openvrml package here...it take ages | 07:58 |
| \sh | 26388 root 18 0 424m 417m 3844 R 64.2 82.7 1:54.25 cc1plus | 07:59 |
| bddebian | \sh: OK, np, thanks | 07:59 |
| \sh | bddebian: when this is built i will check it...believe me... | 07:59 |
| bddebian | No worries, I know you're busy | 07:59 |
| bddebian | bbiab | 07:59 |
| \sh | i want to crack the 50 upload mark..today ,-) | 07:59 |
| \sh | any motu awake who can upload? ;) | 08:01 |
| ajmitch | awake, just.. | 08:04 |
| \sh | damn...where is nsISupports.idl | 08:06 |
| \sh | now I need a chroot *grrr* | 08:08 |
| DanielN | :) | 08:08 |
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| \sh | now I know why nobody wanted to take openvrml | 08:10 |
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| ogra | guys mpathy likes to care for some ruby stuff... in motu world | 08:11 |
| mpathy | hi there.. I "repaired" a ubuntu-package where shall I upload it? | 08:11 |
| mpathy | hey WAIT.. i am a newbie ;) | 08:12 |
| tseng | revu | 08:12 |
| tseng | see the topic | 08:12 |
| ogra | mpathy, this doesnt stay like this for long if you hang around here | 08:12 |
| Mez | mpathy, be warned it cna take a good long time for it to go through REVU (unless you submit close to a review day) | 08:13 |
| Lathiat | tseng: how did the RoR showing-off go? :) | 08:14 |
| tseng | Lathiat: hm well | 08:14 |
| tseng | Lathiat: we were going to make a webapp for doing firewall changes | 08:14 |
| tseng | Lathiat: but the higher-ups have cold feet | 08:14 |
| tseng | it would be a form to request src-> dest ip ranges and ports | 08:15 |
| tseng | infosec could approve each | 08:15 |
| mpathy | oh.. okay.. its only a small change.. | 08:15 |
| tseng | and then it would spit out a Cisco PIX config | 08:15 |
| Mez | hmm | 08:16 |
| Mez | where do you find the shlibs thing? | 08:16 |
| Mez | file? | 08:16 |
| Mez | cause for some reason, i'm getting somting output a dependency on phpapi-20020918-zts | 08:16 |
| Mez | which doesnt exist | 08:16 |
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| \sh | damn more damn damage | 08:17 |
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| tseng | slomo: link to your latest cowbell please? | 08:19 |
| \sh | grmpf...i have to fix configure.ac | 08:19 |
| \sh | and I'm a complete autoconf noob | 08:19 |
| tseng | slomo: oh.. we need more reviewers I guess. | 08:19 |
| mpathy | ogra: okay I'll have a look at these documentations.. then I start with this MOTU thing but slooow :) | 08:19 |
| siretart | mpathy: if your fixes are rather small, consider prividing debdiffs, since for small changes, they are more easy to review | 08:20 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: please don't vote for this version ;) it works but the copyright stuff has to be fixed | 08:20 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=170 | 08:21 |
| mpathy | siretart: debdiffs? huh? as I said, i am a newbie.. but I trieng to read me through this things.. :) | 08:21 |
| siretart | mpathy: ah, ok, sorry then ;) | 08:21 |
| siretart | mpathy: do you know what a debian sourcepackage is? and understand what's this .dsc file about? | 08:22 |
| Mez | siretart, please pull http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=165 from revu | 08:22 |
| mpathy | siretart: 1. yes 2. dont know :) | 08:22 |
| Mez | (for now) | 08:22 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: yeah it can wait | 08:22 |
| siretart | Mez: you want php-clamav archived or nuked? please make a comment in future | 08:22 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: i've already mailed upstream for clarification... and i'll upload the package tomorrow to svn when i've access | 08:23 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: awesome | 08:23 |
| tseng | to svn? | 08:23 |
| siretart | mpathy: if you do a "dpkg-buildpackage", then you'll gett some shiny .dsc file in '..' | 08:23 |
| siretart | mpathy: now try 'debdiff origpackage.dsc modifiedpackage.dsc' | 08:24 |
| Mez | siretart: well, I'm confused - it depends on PHP with zts, and refers to a package that isnt in debian or ubuntu, and nether seems to install any zts build of php | 08:24 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: this debian mono svn thing... meebey suggested to upload the package there | 08:24 |
| tseng | ohh | 08:24 |
| tseng | that is awesome | 08:24 |
| siretart | Mez: so you want it nuked, yes? please provide such information directly to revu | 08:24 |
| tseng | yes its much better that way | 08:25 |
| Mez | siretart, done | 08:25 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: btw... you wanted to talk with me regarding gstreamer-plugins-multiverse :) | 08:26 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: yes! | 08:26 |
| tseng | now where did i put it | 08:27 |
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| mpathy | siretart: okay i will try that.. hope to send my patch for 'alexandria' next weekend! | 08:28 |
| mpathy | or debdiff.. | 08:28 |
| mpathy | whatever it is called :) | 08:28 |
| siretart | mpathy: cool! | 08:28 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: http://tseng2.ath.cx/~brandon/gst-plugins/ | 08:29 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: wanna see what you can do with this? | 08:29 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: its a work in progress, could add lame and some other goodies | 08:30 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: thanks, i'll look at it :) when i change something where shall i send the changes? | 08:31 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: revu | 08:31 |
| tseng | for checkin hopefully :) | 08:31 |
| SloMoSnail | ok :) | 08:32 |
| Lathiat | tseng: sweet | 08:32 |
| herve | re | 08:32 |
| tseng | Lathiat: oh, i did a rails app at home though | 08:33 |
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| \sh | building again and again and again... | 08:36 |
| \sh | listenin to shermann "Master Of Patches" | 08:37 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: you simply took the gstreamer-plugins package and changed some stuff? in the rules there's so much stuff we don't need... | 08:38 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: yep | 08:38 |
| siretart | \sh: lol | 08:38 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: its a pretty quick-n-dirty hack | 08:38 |
| tseng | Lathiat: http://tseng2.ath.cx:3000/admin | 08:38 |
| tseng | Lathiat: i spent an hour or two on this and the rails pdf | 08:39 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: would it be ok to rewrite the package from scratch? i think i can create a rules with <100 lines ;) | 08:39 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: sure. | 08:39 |
| \sh | siretart: no fun anymore...this source eats up my mem just like a lion on mad cow desease | 08:39 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: its all yours if you'll take it | 08:39 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: fine :) but it can take some time... | 08:41 |
| \sh | start to swap...now | 08:41 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: no problem | 08:41 |
| \sh | 24333 shermann 18 0 410m 367m 3004 D 27.5 72.9 0:35.92 cc1plus | 08:41 |
| \sh | and increasing | 08:41 |
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| tseng | can someone say something in utf8? | 08:54 |
| \sh | no | 08:55 |
| tseng | trying to make screen+irssi work | 08:55 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: | 08:55 |
| \sh | i don't have any umlauts | 08:55 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: erm, i want to get irssi to print utf8 instead of garbage. you know | 08:55 |
| herve | caf | 08:56 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: ah ok... so how can i help other than giving you a few utf8 characters? ;) | 08:57 |
| tseng | that would be perfect | 08:57 |
| tseng | i have us keyboard | 08:57 |
| herve | no compose key? | 08:57 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: <--- these are utf8 characters... and you can get some with altgr+6 for example... the not-symbol | 08:58 |
| tseng | altgr? | 08:58 |
| herve | slomo, us keyboard :-) | 08:58 |
| tseng | thos came as ? | 08:58 |
| SloMoSnail | hmm, \sh how is this key called on us keyboards? ;) | 08:59 |
| tseng | irssi must be wrong | 08:59 |
| herve | tseng, so irsii doesn't get it | 08:59 |
| tseng | yes | 08:59 |
| tseng | i fixed screen already | 08:59 |
| ajmitch | irssi is displaying the accents here | 08:59 |
| \sh | rebuilding again | 08:59 |
| \sh | removing all mozilla-plugin crap | 09:01 |
| ajmitch | sounds like \sh is having fun | 09:01 |
| \sh | bloody rest of the cxx trans...and this lib is getting me crazy | 09:02 |
| \sh | making even | 09:02 |
| \sh | increasing caffeine level | 09:02 |
| \sh | i thought my 4 patches for rezound this morning were enough... | 09:03 |
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| \sh | start swaping now | 09:05 |
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| tseng | i am now utf-8 enabled. | 09:17 |
| \sh | hmm | 09:17 |
| \sh | I screwed now everything | 09:18 |
| \sh | just try again 0.14.3 | 09:18 |
| herve | can you read caf? | 09:23 |
| tseng | herve: yes. | 09:23 |
| herve | welcome to utf8 land then :-) | 09:23 |
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| tseng | thanks. | 09:29 |
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| tseng | also moved screen to a more convenient server | 09:30 |
| tseng | schweeb: holy crap its you | 09:30 |
| schweeb | indeed | 09:30 |
| \sh | if this is going to work now...I will upload this piece of crap and start smoking weed again | 09:32 |
| schweeb | o_O | 09:32 |
| \sh | 0.15.9 is broken like hell..and 0.14.3 is not better | 09:33 |
| herve | what package? | 09:34 |
| \sh | openvrml | 09:34 |
| \sh | the last bit of cxx trans | 09:34 |
| \sh | so infinity is happy | 09:34 |
| \sh | and I have peace | 09:34 |
| \sh | no | 09:34 |
| \sh | man | 09:34 |
| \sh | dudes | 09:34 |
| \sh | I finally made it | 09:34 |
| \sh | woooo | 09:34 |
| \sh | bloody hell...I fixed it | 09:35 |
| tseng | \sh++ | 09:35 |
| \sh | ok...one last bit of crap in rules...missing c2 | 09:36 |
| SloMoSnail | \sh: congratulations :) bddebian has to give you the hero of the day status ;) | 09:36 |
| \sh | last rebuilding of openvrml... | 09:37 |
| herve | \sh, I'll buy you a beer if we meet some day | 09:37 |
| herve | s/if/when :-) | 09:37 |
| siretart | \sh: rock! | 09:38 |
| \sh | *phew* I'm finished now | 09:39 |
| \sh | I didn't drink any alcohol...but my head is spinning | 09:39 |
| comadreja | hey congrats \sh | 09:40 |
| SloMoSnail | \sh: i know that feeling... was coding some java stuff this afternoon ;) | 09:41 |
| \sh | SloMoSnail: eeek | 09:42 |
| \sh | .oO(would ogra say now) | 09:42 |
| SloMoSnail | does he like java as much as i do? ;) | 09:42 |
| \sh | well...I think he loves java *eg* | 09:43 |
| tseng | :) | 09:46 |
| tseng | i do alot of tcl at work | 09:46 |
| tseng | i work on other peoples very bad tcl | 09:46 |
| tseng | i dont want any of your complaining about java :P | 09:46 |
| === ajmitch codes php for a living :P | ||
| tseng | i do that too | 09:47 |
| ajmitch | almost as bad as VB | 09:47 |
| tseng | but i threw the old php out the window | 09:47 |
| tseng | and started fresh | 09:47 |
| ajmitch | good move | 09:47 |
| tseng | i want to move to rails | 09:47 |
| tseng | have to convince my boss | 09:47 |
| \sh | java is the real hackers language...just like .net crap *rotfl* | 09:48 |
| tseng | ajmitch: sudo pbuilder build evolution-sharp-0.6.99+0.7-0ubuntu1.dsc | 09:48 |
| tseng | gross | 09:48 |
| comadreja | I like C++ | 09:49 |
| \sh | burn buildd burn | 09:50 |
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| tseng | i do like tcl, when its not horribly obfusticated and poor | 09:50 |
| comadreja | if tseng can forgive me... I hate tcl | 09:50 |
| comadreja | :) | 09:50 |
| tseng | what about it? | 09:51 |
| tseng | everyone seems to hate it | 09:51 |
| tseng | i just hate the coder behind me | 09:51 |
| comadreja | the syntax, is not intuitive | 09:51 |
| tseng | i write it in sort of C style | 09:51 |
| tseng | foreach host $hosts { | 09:52 |
| tseng | ... | 09:52 |
| tseng | } | 09:52 |
| comadreja | I like that seems perl :) what do you think about perl ? | 09:52 |
| tseng | it is kind of odd when you reference variables w/ w/o $ | 09:52 |
| tseng | most perl ive seen is pretty obfusticated | 09:52 |
| tseng | if i had to write it I would probably be a little more explicit and clean C style | 09:53 |
| tseng | might not be so bad | 09:53 |
| comadreja | it's quite ok, I like it. I'd like to learn more python, I love OOP | 09:53 |
| comadreja | it's gotta be really cool | 09:53 |
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| tseng | hm i dont like the indenting logic bit | 09:54 |
| tseng | i like my {} | 09:54 |
| tseng | with proper indenting of course | 09:55 |
| comadreja | that's true | 09:55 |
| comadreja | spaces or tabs ? :D | 09:55 |
| tseng | tabs | 09:55 |
| siretart | are there tcl/gtk2 bindings? ;) | 09:55 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: when you've done some python code you will like the indenting stuff ;) | 09:55 |
| tseng | tabstop=4 | 09:55 |
| comadreja | I use tabstop=2 | 09:56 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: ill learn python exactly when i have to | 09:56 |
| tseng | siretart: yes | 09:56 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: btw... did you have a look at nemerle? what's your opinion regarding that language? :) | 09:56 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: i have not | 09:57 |
| tseng | SloMoSnail: but boo seems pretty slick | 09:57 |
| tseng | im not that much of an OO guy, though | 09:57 |
| tseng | hm oh. nemerle is like proceedural c#? | 09:59 |
| \sh | ok...last lib I can do for today...yehia | 09:59 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: nope... it's really weird ;) you can code exactly like in c# (ok, syntax is a bit different) and you can code some pieces functional ;) | 10:00 |
| herve | you can do functional with python too | 10:01 |
| SloMoSnail | herve: please show me some examples :) | 10:02 |
| herve | map, apply, filter, list comphrensions, generator expressions, iterators, collections... | 10:05 |
| herve | of course it's not a dedicated functional language | 10:05 |
| siretart | lambda | 10:05 |
| herve | lambda too | 10:05 |
| Amaranth | map, filter, and lambda are getting the ax in Python 3 | 10:07 |
| Amaranth | probably apply too | 10:07 |
| SloMoSnail | the ax? | 10:07 |
| Amaranth | will no longer exist | 10:07 |
| Amaranth | being removed from the language | 10:07 |
| herve | they get faster and more memory efficient replacements | 10:08 |
| SloMoSnail | ah ok... | 10:08 |
| Amaranth | because they're annoying | 10:08 |
| herve | iterators and generators are powerful but simple concepts | 10:08 |
| Amaranth | http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=98196 | 10:09 |
| Amaranth | ah, iterators and generators rock | 10:09 |
| Amaranth | filter(), reduce(), map(), etc just confuse | 10:09 |
| herve | I never remember the syntax :-) | 10:09 |
| herve | Amaranth, Python 3 != Python 3000 | 10:10 |
| Amaranth | whatever | 10:10 |
| Amaranth | it's wishlist thing | 10:10 |
| Amaranth | but they'll be cut ASAP, i'm sure of that :) | 10:10 |
| herve | sure thing | 10:11 |
| Amaranth | some of these things are already happening or have happened | 10:12 |
| Amaranth | in PEP3000, i mean | 10:12 |
| Amaranth | "Remove distinction between int and long types" | 10:12 |
| herve | yes, Python 3000 are all the ideas for the future of Python | 10:13 |
| herve | not all make it | 10:13 |
| Amaranth | I'm aware. | 10:15 |
| Amaranth | Pretty sure reduce, map, filter, and lambda are all toast though. :) | 10:15 |
| herve | I won't miss them | 10:15 |
| Amaranth | Not many will. | 10:15 |
| \sh | does anybody have a clue about yehia? | 10:16 |
| Amaranth | A lispy guy I know was bragging to me about how all languages were moving to lisp, even my "precious Python". I showed that to him, he now hates Python religiously. | 10:16 |
| tseng | here comes a new beagle | 10:22 |
| tseng | hm no excitement | 10:24 |
| tseng | i want to hear from you amd64 guys, thumbs up / thumbs down | 10:24 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: hehe, i don't use beagle as i always know where my stuff is :) | 10:24 |
| === bddebian puts \sh "Hero of the Day" plaque on his wall | ||
| tseng | that song sucked | 10:25 |
| bddebian | Metallica r0x j00 d00d | 10:26 |
| tseng | they did | 10:26 |
| bddebian | Heh | 10:26 |
| tseng | in 1984 | 10:26 |
| tseng | not in 1994 | 10:26 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: yes... long long time ago ;) | 10:26 |
| tseng | i still have and justice for all, ride the lightning, master of puppets | 10:26 |
| \sh | bddebian: for what? | 10:26 |
| tseng | the good stuffs | 10:26 |
| bddebian | \sh: I dunno, that's what SloMoSnail said :-) | 10:27 |
| \sh | gnarf | 10:27 |
| bddebian | tseng: Yeah, Fade To Black rocked | 10:27 |
| SloMoSnail | bddebian: for openvrml | 10:27 |
| tseng | i can play most of that song | 10:27 |
| bddebian | Nice | 10:27 |
| tseng | the hetfield bits | 10:27 |
| tseng | its really fun | 10:27 |
| bddebian | \sh: Any time to look at octave yet? | 10:27 |
| \sh | bddebian: hahahaa... | 10:27 |
| bddebian | What happed to libsigc++ did someone upload it? | 10:27 |
| \sh | just now | 10:27 |
| \sh | i should have... | 10:28 |
| \sh | i'm not sure | 10:28 |
| \sh | too many uploads | 10:28 |
| bddebian | Heh | 10:28 |
| \sh | Accepted libsigc++ 1.0.4-9ubuntu1 (source) | 10:28 |
| \sh | * Resynchronise with Debian. * Sponsord for Barry DeFreese (Closes: Ubuntu #12482) | 10:28 |
| \sh | yes | 10:28 |
| bddebian | Hmm | 10:28 |
| === bddebian ++ ;-P | ||
| \sh | working on yehia right now...to get this cxx stuff from his ass | 10:31 |
| \sh | downloading octave2.1 | 10:32 |
| bddebian | \sh: Anything I can do to help on the cxx stuff? (Not that I know C++) | 10:33 |
| \sh | no.I'm just finished now | 10:33 |
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| bddebian | Oh OK, sorry | 10:34 |
| bddebian | Sheesh, I think peacock needs just a few more build-deps | 10:34 |
| bddebian | If the only thing missing from a Dropped Debian patch is an updated standards version, is it worth a diff? | 10:35 |
| \sh | bddebian: I'm just uploading octave...please check the buildlogs | 10:36 |
| \sh | damn | 10:37 |
| \sh | bddebian: please check your inbox for a mail from katie pls | 10:38 |
| bddebian | \sh: Nothing yet | 10:38 |
| \sh | bddebian: will come..or is your mail not whitelisted? | 10:38 |
| bddebian | I don't know about "katie" but I have been getting mails from bugzilla | 10:39 |
| tseng | katie is the ubuntu upload manager | 10:39 |
| bddebian | Ah | 10:40 |
| bddebian | How would I be in there? Just from being the bugzilla contact? | 10:40 |
| bddebian | Or from the changelog? | 10:40 |
| bddebian | \sh: BTW, did you test it to make sure I didn't fsck it up? ;-) | 10:41 |
| bddebian | tseng: Is my noise ratio too high again? | 10:43 |
| tseng | no | 10:43 |
| tseng | its quickly decreasing :) | 10:43 |
| tseng | welcome aboard | 10:43 |
| bddebian | OK thanks. Let me know if I get to loud again. (Seriously) | 10:43 |
| ajmitch | if you don't know if your address is whitelisted, then it most likely isn't | 10:44 |
| tseng | someone uploaded it for him i thought | 10:44 |
| tseng | like you used to do to my sources | 10:44 |
| tseng | pre-keysigning | 10:44 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I've heard of blacklisted and rbl but wtf is whitelisted? | 10:45 |
| tseng | bddebian: no one can upload to ubuntu until you are whitelisted | 10:45 |
| tseng | bddebian: opposite of blacklist | 10:45 |
| bddebian | Oh, I'm not uploading. I'm just one of your slaves :-) | 10:45 |
| tseng | yes. | 10:46 |
| \sh | error: invalid use of void expression | 10:48 |
| \sh | argl | 10:48 |
| \sh | what was the fix for it...*think* | 10:48 |
| herve | night all | 10:48 |
| tseng | \sh: hitting the author with K&R? | 10:48 |
| \sh | tseng: the author is crap...last mail from 2004 | 10:50 |
| \sh | one | 10:50 |
| tseng | heh | 10:50 |
| === tseng dinner | ||
| SloMoSnail | bddebian: are you searching for some work? :) i need a wavpack package but i even can't compile it by hand as the sources seem to be broken ;) | 10:56 |
| bddebian | slomo: Is it on the buglist? | 11:01 |
| SloMoSnail | nope... there is currently no package | 11:02 |
| \sh | hmmm.... | 11:02 |
| \sh | what is the best fix for invalid use of void expression? | 11:02 |
| SloMoSnail | \sh: depends on the actual code ;) paste it somewhere | 11:03 |
| bddebian | Well what good is that then? Aren't we supposed to be concentrating on MOTUToMerge? :-) | 11:03 |
| bddebian | \sh: int ;-P | 11:03 |
| SloMoSnail | bddebian: i'm currently working on gstreamer-plugins-multiverse... and a wavpack plugin would be nice ;) but i've solved the problem :) | 11:04 |
| \sh | void erase(iterator it) { G_Node<T>(g_node_unlink(it.node)); } | 11:04 |
| \sh | void erase(iterator start, iterator end) { | 11:04 |
| \sh | for (iterator it = start; it != end; ++it) | 11:04 |
| \sh | G_Node<T>(g_node_unlink(it.node)); | 11:04 |
| \sh | } | 11:04 |
| SloMoSnail | bddebian: tomorrow i'll work further on MOTUToMerge | 11:04 |
| bddebian | SloMoSnail: Then what do you need me for? :-) | 11:05 |
| \sh | doesn't matter... | 11:07 |
| SloMoSnail | bddebian: hmm... don't know ;) do you want to package it? :) | 11:07 |
| bddebian | SloMoSnail: I thought you said you just fixed it? | 11:08 |
| === bddebian is lost again | ||
| SloMoSnail | bddebian: yes it compiles now... but there currently is no package so i have to create one ;) | 11:08 |
| bddebian | Ahhh | 11:09 |
| \sh | so if somebody wants some fun tonight: apt-get source yehia...rename it and compile .) infos about cxx transition is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyToolchainTransition | 11:11 |
| bddebian | SloMoSnail: I'm not sure if I am the person to package something from source or not. :-) | 11:14 |
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| \sh | ok...time for me to hit my bed | 11:15 |
| \sh | for today it's enough | 11:15 |
| SloMo_ | gn8 \sh :) | 11:15 |
| bddebian | \sh: Good work man. :-) And gnight | 11:15 |
| bddebian | Oh, and thanks! | 11:15 |
| \sh | bddebian: octave2.1 uploaded | 11:15 |
| \sh | check the buildlogs for any problems... | 11:16 |
| bddebian | \sh: Awesome, thanks | 11:16 |
| === bddebian doesn't know how to check buildlogs for Ubuntu but will find out | ||
| \sh | http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/buildlogs/ | 11:16 |
| \sh | and check for octave2.1 ;) | 11:17 |
| bddebian | Ahh, thanks again :-) | 11:17 |
| \sh | if it's "success" and "green", for all archs: everything is ok...if one or many are red...fix | 11:17 |
| bddebian | :'-( | 11:18 |
| \sh | what? | 11:18 |
| bddebian | Just kidding around. Ignore me and go to bed. :-) | 11:18 |
| \sh | just closed another bug | 11:20 |
| \sh | ok...g'night everybody...cu tomorrow | 11:21 |
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| SloMo_ | bddebian: you only learn by trying ;) | 11:26 |
| bddebian | SloMo_: Amen :-) | 11:27 |
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| bddebian | Hmm, did \sh upload slmon too? | 11:30 |
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| bddebian | SloMo_: I think you need a few more nick aliases ;-) | 11:33 |
| Amaranth | yay for trolls | 11:35 |
| Amaranth | "Please quit being such a traitor. The whole Linux community can live w/o these apps you just mentioned." | 11:35 |
| bddebian | Who's a troll? | 11:35 |
| Amaranth | when i was talking about why mono was good | 11:35 |
| Amaranth | oh, some guide on the forums who thinks M$ must die!!!!111one!! | 11:35 |
| Amaranth | omg | 11:35 |
| Amaranth | :P | 11:35 |
| bddebian | Ah, just punch them in the throat :-) | 11:35 |
| Amaranth | err, guy | 11:36 |
| Amaranth | i can't talk | 11:36 |
| Amaranth | type | 11:36 |
| Amaranth | fuck | 11:36 |
| bddebian | Amaranth: Such language. :-) | 11:48 |
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