[03:56] <Riddell> \sh_away: should be kdevelop ok to build not in breezy.  make sure you depend on the latest kdelibs and libcvs
[09:41] <\sh> hey jre
[09:41] <JRe> heyq
[03:50] <Riddell> hoary using volunteers needed to test koffice 1.4.1
[04:46] <JRe> Riddell: repo ?
[04:46] <Riddell> JRe: top one at http://kubuntu.org/hoary-koffice-141.php
[04:47] <JRe> Riddell: what kind of test? just installing the packages ?
[04:47] <Riddell> JRe: yes please
[04:48] <JRe> Riddell: ok i do it immediatly
[05:05] <JRe> Riddell: ok installed succesfully
[05:06] <JRe> (before i had 1.4)
[05:06] <JRe> Riddell: i've starting to use kword it works great
[05:06] <JRe> Riddell: no dep problems or things like that
[05:07] <JRe> Riddell: in short: well done :)
[05:08] <Riddell> JRe: rocking
[05:08] <Riddell> thanks for testing
[05:08] <JRe> Riddell: you're welcome! thanks for packaging :)
[05:08] <Riddell> now...koffice 1.4.1 or openoffice :)
[05:09] <JRe> Riddell: i think that as long as koffice will not perfectly handle .doc and .xls it's better to have openoffice
[05:09] <JRe> Riddell: but it's just IMHO ;)
[05:10] <Riddell> your opinion is valuable 
[05:11] <JRe> (.doc and .xls bad handling often leads the user to return to window)
[05:57] <JRe> Riddell: i am going to work on the Krecipes 0.8.1 release
[05:57] <Riddell> JRe: cool
[05:57] <JRe> Riddell: you prefer that i make a whole package
[05:58] <Riddell> hopefully it will have got rid of some of those random libraries
[05:58] <Riddell> JRe: splitting up sounds best to me
[05:58] <JRe> Riddell: or that i separate binaries and recipes (arch indep) data
[05:58] <JRe> Riddell: if there is unusefull lib i'll clean the makefile
[06:05] <JRe> Riddell: BTW there is KTvSchedule in REVU, when you have time you can take a look at it. There is some improvments, and i think it will soon start to be usable
[06:05] <JRe> Riddell: (v0.1.9)
[06:06] <Riddell> JRe: added to TODO (after KDE 3.4.2 :)
[06:06] <JRe> Riddell: ok :)
[10:42] <allee> Riddell: koffice 1.4.1 installs fine. Played a bit with kspread: fine too
[10:43] <allee> are there plans to move digikam to main?
[10:45] <Riddell> allee: I'm yet to be convinced that digikam is any good
[10:45] <Riddell> but feel free to convince me :)
[10:46] <allee> Riddell: what problem do you have with digikam?
[10:48] <allee> In case you have ppc, most endian problems are fixed now ;)
[10:48] <allee> s/most/all known/
[10:48] <Riddell> well I tend to just sort my photos by directory, dikicam does all sorts of clever stuff that I don't really want to know about
[10:50] <allee> hmm, your way is the default in you don't touch the 'clever stuff', afaiu.
[10:50] <allee> with 0.8-svn digikam even got rid of some config options ;)
[11:12] <allee> sebas: why do you use(?) digikam
[11:21] <sebas> It works :)
[11:21] <allee> that's better than nothing ;)
[11:21] <sebas> And it's a nice app, I mainly use it to download and view my photos.
[11:22] <sebas> Another one, I'm trying to get guidance running in breezy.
[11:22] <sebas> I'm done with fixing compile problems, but now kcontrol can't find my modules.
[11:22] <sebas> They're in /usr/lib/kde3
[11:22] <sebas> kcmshell doesn't list them, though.
[11:23] <sebas> allee: Seriously, it's one of the coolest apps in KDE, I *really* like it.
[11:23] <allee> libs are not enough you need some desktop files too
[11:23] <sebas> Ah, then I'll check if these got installed properly.
[11:24] <allee> sebas: thx.  Can I cite you on #digikam? ;)
[11:25] <sebas> Sure.
[11:25] <sebas> I like the OpenGL slideshow, btw, although it doesn't work on my radeon.
[11:25] <allee> done ;)
[11:25] <sebas> Ok.
[11:26] <allee> doesn't work?  Not at all? only slow? ...?
[11:26] <sebas> Stays black
[11:26] <sebas> On my nvidia it works fine.
[11:27] <sebas> I've replied in a bugreport already, so it *should* be know ... 
[11:27] <allee> oh, I've no problem in sarge with radeon cards
[11:28] <sebas> Which radeon?
[11:28] <sebas> And which driver?
[11:29] <sebas> I'm running sid, xorg from cvs with oss driver.
[11:29] <allee> 9000 and 9200, 7000 and 7500 afair
[11:29] <allee> sarge: so xfree 4.3
[11:30] <sebas> Hm, i've got a 7500
[11:30] <sebas> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107410 This one actually.
[11:30] <sebas> Other OpenGL apps work just fine. ($GF is addicted to supertux)
[11:40] <allee> sebas: I've found a 7500 but the offcie it closed now.  I'll try tomorrow ...
[11:41] <sebas> Great :)
[11:41] <sebas> allee: Let me know if you need more feedback/info/flames ;-)
[11:41] <sebas> sebas@kde.nl
[11:42] <allee> okay.  I appoint you to may hoary beta tester.  You have my repo in your sources.list so stay tuned ;)
[11:43] <sebas> allee: Ok. :)
[11:44] <sebas> Riddell: As to guidance, I'm bugging Simon now, who hopefully gets back online this week and will fix pykdeextensions (that's where the problems left are at the moment).
[11:47] <Riddell> sebas: cool
[11:47] <Riddell> and then it'll be ready for packaging?
[11:47] <allee> sebas: @kde.nl?  did you happen to have bbc with toma in rinses garden?
[11:48] <sebas> Riddell: Jep, I hope so. displayconfig might be excluded from packaging until we get the dualhead stuff flying, but I think that issues that might appear with the code can be easily fixed.
[11:49] <sebas> allee: Jep :)
[11:49] <allee> he, with toma and rinse around you, you can't dislike digikam, too dangerous ;)
[11:49] <sebas> The tricky stuff is the kcontrol magic (tricky as in "Let's Simon fix that" ;-))
[11:50] <sebas> allee: I think most of the photos for the dutch digikam docs/ are from me :)
[11:51] <allee> sebas: heh!
[11:59] <sebas> Riddell: Would you like intermediate hints how to fix smallish install problems or should I wait with bugging you until we get it actually running in breezy?
[11:59] <sebas> It might take a couple of days for Simon to reply, and I'm on holiday for a week beginning on friday.
[12:00] <Riddell> sebas: if you have hints that sounds good
[12:00] <Riddell> but currently I'm packaging kde 3.4.2 so not looking at guidance 
[12:00] <sebas> Ok, I'll just CC: you in the e-mail to Simon then. It has most of the hints I could figure out.
[12:00] <Riddell> cool
[12:01] <sebas> That's no problem, of course. :)
[12:01] <sebas> Are you going to upload hoary backports of 3.4.2?
[12:02] <sebas> Yeah, a new snapshot build of OOo2 would be kewl, now the KDE stuff is merged.