[12:02] <LuNaTiK^GuY> :D
[12:08] <TestMAD> ac/dc rocks
[12:08] <TestMAD> im gonna have to cut this song up and make it the login sound
[12:09] <LuNaTiK^GuY> of course they do :)
[12:09] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm more into Metallica though AHAAH
[12:10] <TestMAD> nah..
[12:10] <TestMAD> metallica..lost intrest long time ago..rather listen to bon jovi instead
[12:10] <TestMAD> lol.
[12:11] <LuNaTiK^GuY> lost interest?
[12:11] <LuNaTiK^GuY> for what reason?
[12:12] <TestMAD> dunoo..
[12:12] <TestMAD> st anger isnt too bad tho.
[12:12] <TestMAD> thats a goodie
[12:13] <LuNaTiK^GuY> erm
[12:13] <TestMAD> guess im into a little different stuff now..ill listen to old korn, rage, pantera,,
[12:13] <LuNaTiK^GuY> st anger is their worst :!!!
[12:13] <nikkia> feh, there's been some great rock/metal this year, too much to worry about has-beens like metallica :P
[12:13] <LuNaTiK^GuY> hey nikkia!!!
[12:13] <TestMAD> nikkia: exaclty
[12:13] <LuNaTiK^GuY> has-beens???
[12:13] <_jose> hi
[12:13] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wots that supposed to mean!
[12:13] <nikkia> the 2005 albums by vai, dream theater, robert plant, etc
[12:14] <LuNaTiK^GuY> oh come on
[12:14] <_jose> can somebody help me installing nvidia drivers?
[12:14] <_jose> a link or something?
[12:14] <TestMAD> !nvidia
[12:14] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:14] <_jose> thanks!
[12:14] <TestMAD> np
[12:14] <TestMAD> i love that bot.
[12:14] <TestMAD> its very usefull
[12:15] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and funny too :)
[12:15] <LuNaTiK^GuY> fortune fame
[12:15] <LuNaTiK^GuY> mirror pane
[12:15] <LuNaTiK^GuY> gone insane
[12:15] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but the memory remainsss
[12:15] <LuNaTiK^GuY> :)
[12:15] <nikkia> LuNaTiK^GuY: the bottom line is, when someone considers st anger good, you KNOW you're not going to get anywhere discussing quality rock/metal with them :P
[12:16] <TestMAD> hehe
[12:16] <TestMAD> try it
[12:16] <nikkia> LuNaTiK^GuY: even ignoring the terrible musicianship, and lousy 3rd rate lyrics, it made rush's vapour trails look well engineered
[12:16] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i didnt consider st.anger good ...its their worst
[12:16] <LuNaTiK^GuY> but hey
[12:16] <LuNaTiK^GuY> black album is imoortal
[12:16] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ride the lightning is immortal
[12:16] <TestMAD> rush is decent..band with the most talent ever assembled..too bad they didnt use it
[12:16] <LuNaTiK^GuY> load and reload are great
[12:17] <nikkia> LuNaTiK^GuY: no, MoP and JFA were the best
[12:17] <LuNaTiK^GuY> JFA ok :)
[12:17] <LuNaTiK^GuY> naaaah
[12:17] <LuNaTiK^GuY> we dnot agree here
[12:17] <LuNaTiK^GuY> sorry! :)
[12:17] <TestMAD> pantera rulz all
[12:18] <nikkia> LuNaTiK^GuY: btw, ever heard dream theater's cover of master of puppets ?
[12:18] <LuNaTiK^GuY> no not really
[12:18] <nikkia> (they covered the entire album)
[12:18] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wow
[12:18] <LuNaTiK^GuY> is it ay good?
[12:19] <nikkia> they also released a complete cover of iron maiden's 'number of the beast'
[12:19] <LuNaTiK^GuY> IM :) woww
[12:19] <LuNaTiK^GuY> those are kings ;)
[12:19] <TestMAD> anyone listen to the system of a down cd..mezmerize?
[12:19] <nikkia> LuNaTiK^GuY: yeah, altho LaBrie's vocals don't quite fit on a handful of lines
[12:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> u know
[12:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> when metallica is on stage
[12:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> they dont just say "hey this is metallica"
[12:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> they say "this is metallicAAAA"
[12:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> lol
[12:20] <nikkia> LuNaTiK^GuY: itym 'metallic-ah'
[12:21] <nikkia> 'and we're-ah here-ah, to make-ah, you rock-ah'
[12:21] <TestMAD> what is the band known to give the best concerts of all time?
[12:21] <nikkia> testmad, pink floyd
[12:21] <TestMAD> nope
[12:21] <TestMAD> believe it or not..queen
[12:21] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yeah i should think so
[12:21] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yet
[12:21] <nikkia> testmad, queen's concerts were so-so, nothing in comparision to the experience that is a floyd concert
[12:21] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i drool at S&M :)
[12:22] <TestMAD> i woulda thaought kiss.
[12:22] <nikkia> i mean, yes, mercury had stage presence, but pink floyd was an experience
[12:22] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Rock in Rio series ;)
[12:22] <TestMAD> yea..on 2 hits of blotter
[12:22] <TestMAD> hehe
[12:22] <LuNaTiK^GuY> all awesome
[12:22] <nikkia> testmad, clearly, you've never been to one
[12:22] <crimsun> there are lots of bands who had great experiences
[12:22] <TestMAD> ..uhh..before my time
[12:22] <nikkia> testmad, i've seen them twice, and some of it cannot be adequately described in words, and i never took ANY drugs at them
[12:23] <TestMAD> ive only been to the laser light show..thats all
[12:23] <crimsun> arguably phish is one such band, as were the dead, the allmans, jimi hendrix exp, zep, etc.
[12:23] <nikkia> crimsun: zep were always hit and miss, depended on how out-of-his-head page was :P
[12:23] <TestMAD> i went to a clapton concert once.
[12:23] <TestMAD> and it was horrible..
[12:24] <marsh> I'm trying to get a network up and runnning at home, I've configured all the cards, but they cant ping each other. I'm using a crossover cable.
[12:24] <TestMAD> the guy could barely sit up in his chair and play
[12:24] <nikkia> crimsun: even hendrix, as stoned as he'd be, was never as bad as a fully loaded page playing 'all the wrong notes'
[12:24] <crimsun> I'd give anything to have seen byrd play
[12:24] <crimsun> bird, sorry
[12:24] <marsh> could it be my firewall? and if so - I can't find any ubuntu help on it :o?
[12:25] <marsh> or is firestarter the way forward?
[12:25] <TestMAD> try a different cable
[12:25] <crimsun> that man played better coked out of his mind than most guys can ever hope to
[12:25] <marsh> Testmad - is there any way to test this one? 
[12:25] <TestMAD> pink floyd is awesome tho
[12:25] <marsh> I only got 1
[12:26] <TestMAD> uh..try hooking it up to another pc
[12:26] <nikkia> testmad, even the pre-show stuff at a floyd concert is usually mind blowing
[12:26] <marsh> TestMAD: - good plan - but due to financial difficulties I only have the 2 :(
[12:26] <TestMAD> my first place to look would be the cable tho..after it would be software
[12:27] <nikkia> testmad, first time i saw them, i saw some people ducking when the dive bomber flew overhead near the end of the pre-show :P
[12:27] <marsh> nikkia - aggreed -did you go to the live8?
[12:27] <TestMAD> you might be able to find a cheap ethernet canle at walmart.
[12:27] <TestMAD> like 10$ for 10ft
[12:27] <nikkia> marsh, no, couldn't get tickets, but that wasn't a true floyd concert in the  'full experience' sense anyway, i really hope they tour again
[12:27] <marsh> nikkia - first time I saw them it was a pig that made them duck!
[12:28] <nikkia> marsh, the dive bomber was pure audio effect, the 'model' dive bomber didn't come out until mid-show :)
[12:28] <marsh> with a huge set of bollox
[12:28] <nikkia> marsh, people were literally ducking to avoid a surround sound recording of a plane :P
[12:28] <TestMAD> gwar concerts are fun
[12:28] <marsh> Oh yeah - that was momentary pre-concert stuff, no?
[12:28] <nikkia> yeah
[12:28] <marsh> nikkia - I've seen it....
[12:28] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ur all lucky to live in places where concerts are easy to reach :(
[12:28] <TestMAD> if you ever goto a gwar concert..make sure you can throw away the clothes you wear.
[12:28] <LuNaTiK^GuY> as for me.....no
[12:29] <nikkia> LuNaTiK^GuY: I've only once travelled less than 150 miles to see a concert...
[12:29] <nikkia> and that was to see van halen
[12:29] <TestMAD> post or pre roth?
[12:29] <marsh> jumpin' about all over the place?
[12:29] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ohhh
[12:29] <nikkia> testmad, post roth, the right here, right now, tour
[12:30] <TestMAD> ah..haggar..eck
[12:30] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm off to sleeep
[12:30] <TestMAD> i prefer the roth days
[12:30] <TestMAD> heh
[12:30] <nikkia> testmad, it was ok, i didn't have a time machine to make roth rejoin :P
[12:30] <nikkia> besides, roth is terrible these days
[12:30] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Metallicaaa...damn rite!
[12:30] <TestMAD> i wish i woulda went to the tour that they did together
[12:30] <nikkia> skyscraper was alright, but after that, it degenerated into 'lounge songs' :P
[12:30] <marsh> nikkia - metallica? or underworld?
[12:31] <nikkia> marsh?
[12:31] <marsh> or van halen
[12:31] <marsh> ?
[12:31] <nikkia> marsh, DLR
[12:31] <marsh> skyscraper
[12:31] <nikkia> after he 'quit' van halen, skyscraper was alright, then it just went downhill
[12:31] <marsh> Hehehe...
[12:31] <marsh> I think the loony has a point...
[12:32] <marsh> time to hit the sack... :(
[12:32] <TestMAD> yea..he had some messed up vids tho
[12:32] <marsh> long day ahead tomorrow, and poor weather...
[12:32] <marsh> and some of that makeup was a bit dodgy too...
[12:32] <marsh> thanks fr the help guys.
[12:32] <nikkia> marsh, you're not supposed to eat it
[12:33] <marsh> take care, 
[12:33] <mchonis> hi all
[12:33] <marsh> nikkia: Hehehe...
[12:33] <TestMAD> wanna talk makeup...david bowie
[12:33] <marsh> g'night
[12:33] <TestMAD> nite
[12:33] <mchonis> I need help with my external hard drive
[12:33] <kalenedrael> usb?
[12:33] <mchonis> ya
[12:33] <mchonis> it used to work
[12:33] <mchonis> and now it doesn
[12:33] <mchonis> it still works with my windows machine tho
[12:33] <kalenedrael> what did you change?
[12:34] <mchonis> I hit the "update" button in kynaptic
[12:34] <mchonis> so alot
[12:34] <kalenedrael> ah, you likely got a new kernel
[12:34] <kalenedrael> umm, i don't know, really
[12:35] <kalenedrael> what does dmesg tell you when you plug it in?
[12:35] <mchonis> nada
[12:35] <mchonis> it doesnt detect it
[12:35] <kalenedrael> weird
[12:36] <kalenedrael> check if ohci_hcd, uhci_hcd, or ehci_hcd is loaded
[12:36] <kalenedrael> with lsmod
[12:36] <mchonis> ok.. i'm a total newb.. what?
[12:36] <nikkia> and then try another usb port
[12:36] <kalenedrael> well, you know what dmesg is :)
[12:36] <nikkia> usb is weird, sometimes ports 'just stop working'
[12:36] <kalenedrael> /sbin/lsmod
[12:36] <kalenedrael> yeah, try what nikkia suggested...
[12:36] <nikkia> and sometimes they'll 'just stop working' with a specific device
[12:37] <mchonis> changed ports.. still nothing
[12:37] <kalenedrael> hmm
[12:38] <kalenedrael> type /sbin/lsmod at a console and see if one of the *hci_hcd is listed
[12:38] <nikkia> i know what it might be :/
[12:38] <kalenedrael> oh, also check for usb_storage
[12:38] <nikkia> there's that 'new' 'fast' usb-storage driver, that is optimised for flash keys
[12:38] <nikkia> if it gets loaded, or installed in such a way to become the default usb-storage provider, it doesn't support usb HDDs
[12:39] <kalenedrael> hmm
[12:39] <kalenedrael> i have a usb drive that works great with the latest kernel
[12:39] <nikkia> i think the .10 kernel update included it, and my ipod stopped being recognised, i can't remember what i had to change to make it recognised again tho
[12:39] <kalenedrael> 2.6.13-rc3
[12:40] <Minuo> How can I get libalsa_out for alsaplayer?
[12:40] <nikkia> i might have had to blacklist the 'fast' driver with hotplug, can't remember
[12:40] <kalenedrael> Minuo, apt-cache search libalsa
[12:40] <kalenedrael> (i guess...)
[12:41] <Minuo> I get libalsaplayer0 and libalsaplayer-dev, both of w hich are installed
[12:41] <kalenedrael> hmm
[12:41] <Minuo> unless maybe its in the wrong directory
[12:41] <kalenedrael> no...
[12:41] <kalenedrael> what do you need that for?
[12:41] <kalenedrael> libalsa_out, that is
[12:41] <Minuo> I just want to switch over to dmix from arts for multi-source audio
[12:41] <Minuo> testing alsaplayer with dmix
[12:42] <kalenedrael> hmm
[12:42] <Minuo> it doesn't seem to be cooperating with me
[12:42] <kalenedrael> dunno, my sound has always just worked
[12:42] <Minuo> arts never works right for me
[12:42] <Minuo> especailly playing videos, there is always a delay on the sound
[12:42] <Minuo> never with arts
[12:43] <Minuo> err
[12:43] <Minuo> never with dmix/alsa, always with arts
[12:43] <_StarScream> anyone here knows they definately use a caching name server?
[12:45] <TestMAD> and y is that when im watching vids in kaffiene..that when i click a different spot on the progress bar..that theres like a 2-3 second pause..
[12:53] <nikkia> Minuo: because the default arts setup buffers audio
[12:53] <nikkia> and alsa will be buffering audio also, as will dmix, so you end up with a chain of enough audio buffering to create an audible delay
[12:53] <nikkia> Minuo: you can minimise it by changing the buffer size for arts in kcontrol
[12:54] <Minuo> nikkia: Ok, thanks, I'll give that a try
[01:13] <vito> hi every1, how do I find out what version of vncserver I'm running.. can any1 help me ?
[01:33] <von_stork> hey guys
[01:34] <von_stork> i need some help with kubuntu...
[01:34] <von_stork> is there anyone avaiable to help me
[01:43] <pajohn> i just burned a data dvd on my windoze comp, then i put it into my kubuntu comp, and i'm having problems
[01:43] <pajohn> with the permissions
[01:43] <pajohn> i have to be root in order to view/execute the files
[01:44] <pajohn> any ideas?
[01:44] <pajohn> i added uid=1000 to fstab
[01:44] <pajohn> still no luck
[01:45] <pajohn> i did chmod 555 /media/cdrom0
[01:45] <pajohn> but it seems that the dvd has its own permissions
[01:47] <hussam> can you access other dvd?
[01:48] <pajohn> what do you mean? i can access other dvd's (movies for example)
[01:48] <pajohn> no problem
[01:48] <pajohn> but it seems that this dvd already has preset permissions
[01:50] <pajohn> no ideas?
[01:51] <hussam> can you actually access it but not the files on it or the dvd itself?
[01:51] <pajohn> i can't even view the contents
[01:51] <pajohn> unless it's as root
[02:00] <emuflame> hrm, could someone point me in the right direction for setting up alsa it seems not to see my soundcard even tho the proper module is loaded :(
[02:03] <pajohn> from what i know
[02:03] <pajohn> go to control center
[02:03] <pajohn> sound and multimedia
[02:03] <pajohn> sound system
[02:03] <pajohn> hardware
[02:03] <pajohn> select the audio device: autodetect
[02:03] <pajohn> b/c some cards won't work with alsa
[02:28] <emuflame> pajohn: heh gave me /dev/dsp doesnt exist :(
[02:31] <crimsun> emuflame: what chipset?
[02:31] <emuflame> evil atiixp garbage
[02:31] <emuflame> on my laptop
[02:31] <crimsun> are you using alsa-source from universe?
[02:32] <emuflame> negative, i just installed this fresh
[02:32] <emuflame> perhaps that is my problem?
[02:32] <crimsun> there's your issue.
[02:32] <crimsun> !tell emuflame about alsa-source
[02:32] <crimsun> select the atiixp driver
[02:32] <crimsun> (not the atiixpm driver)
[02:34] <emuflame> yeah ok, ive blacklisted the atiixpm driver
[02:34] <emuflame> but alsa-source is what id need
[02:36] <emuflame> ok
[02:37] <emuflame> in that tell should i be replacing alsa-driver with the name of the alsa driver i need or just take that verbatim?
[02:37] <crimsun> up to you
[02:38] <emuflame> haha ok
[02:41] <emuflame> well
[02:41] <emuflame> i guess verbatim wasnt good
[03:08] <Nickos> hello everybody
[03:12] <Nickos> does anyone knows what version of kde the breezy badger will have?
[03:13] <crimsun> 3.4.1
[03:13] <Nickos> ok... thanks
[03:14] <Nickos> maybe i add it to my sources.list :)
[03:17] <hussam> crimsun: kde 3.4.2 will be out in a week or so, so I guess it will have 3.4.2
[03:17] <Nickos> that is better...
[03:17] <crimsun> hussam: I can't predict what isn't already out ;)
[03:18] <Nickos> the guys are pretty fast
[03:18] <TestMAD> i wish 4.0 would be out
[03:18] <TestMAD> but more than likely..3.5 at the most for breezy
[03:19] <hussam> crimsun: I'm actually hoping they backport kde 3.4.2 to hoary like kde 3.4.1
[03:19] <crimsun> I'm guessing they will
[03:19] <Nickos> debian is still shipping with 3.2 (to the stable release)
[03:20] <hussam> TestMAD: I doubt 3.5 will be out by breezy
[03:20] <hussam> crimsun: you mean the backport?
[03:21] <Nickos> Linux + KDE 3.4.1 = better than any mswindows version
[03:22] <Nickos> I wish i could do some (easy) transcoding to my DVDs
[03:22] <hussam> Nickos: heck Linux + any window manager is better than Microsoft Windows
[03:23] <Nickos> right
[03:23] <Nickos> maybe k3b give the solution for ever
[03:23] <Nickos> to transcoding i mean
[03:28] <bjoeern> hi
[03:29] <Nickos> hi <bjoeern>
[03:29] <bjoeern> how to install wireless lan under kubuntu?
[03:29] <bjoeern> with the KWIFIMANAGER
[03:30] <bjoeern> where to enter essid etc>?
[03:30] <crimsun> hussam: I mean 3.4.2 to Hoary
[03:33] <bjoeern> any1?
[03:33] <Nickos> sorry... i don't have wireless so i don't have experience
[03:33] <alakhia> had a question about a movie player ...
[03:34] <Nickos> ?
[03:34] <alakhia> i use mplayer but need something for my wife to use ... that is easy! :)
[03:34] <alakhia> any ideas? 
[03:34] <alakhia> kaffene (sp?) makes it hard to fast forward and rewind
[03:34] <hussam> crimsun: well hopefully. I'd love to see 3.4.2 in hoary.
[03:34] <Nickos> why? do you mean mplayer is hard to use it?
[03:35] <crimsun> hussam: it won't be in hoary but will be backported like 3.4.1.
[03:35] <alakhia> well, a prompt isn't very user friendly for my wife ...
[03:35] <Nickos> prompt?
[03:36] <alakhia> i like how dvd menus work in kaffene
[03:36] <emuflame> hrm
[03:36] <Nickos> what are you talking bout?
[03:36] <alakhia> command prompt
[03:36] <hussam> crimsun: that's what I meant. It fixes a kicker crash I am having in kde 3.4.1
[03:36] <alakhia> sorry ... i mean shell
[03:36] <Nickos> mplayer have a gui...
[03:36] <alakhia> hmmm, ok thanks
[03:38] <emuflame> hrm
[03:43] <Nickos> i have to reboot to my new KDE... compilation is finished.. bye everyone
[03:45] <cartel_> hi all
[03:45] <cartel_> where can i get helix-player 1.0.5? there is a security vuln in < that version
[03:46] <cartel_> and the ver in ubuntu cant play rtsp streams
[04:09] <ep> What's up with Firefox, Is there still a problem?
[04:23] <ep> I'm still running Firefox version 1.02.  The update I did a few days ago, updated Firefox.   This update susposedly had probems.   The updates I've done since have not mentioned a Firefox patch, I figured they would.  
[04:30] <ep> What version  of Firefox is in the backports or has it been removed?
[04:55] <Chris_Tucker> im having trouble watching a dvd in kaffeine, its a fresh isntall on a reasonably fast machine
[04:56] <Chris_Tucker> "the source cant be read"
[04:56] <Chris_Tucker> "maybe you dont have enough rights for this, or source doesnt contain data"
[04:56] <crimsun> have you installed the necessary libs?
[04:56] <Chris_Tucker> the dvd is in the drive and accessable from the desktop automount icon
[04:57] <Chris_Tucker> mm no... didnt know there were any extra needed
[04:57] <Chris_Tucker> what ones do i need?
[05:04] <Chris_Tucker> what libs do i need?
[05:06] <crimsun> wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:07] <Chris_Tucker> ok thanks
[05:13] <Chris_Tucker> bleh "no legal way in most countries" .. i think some industries are being bias there... it should be legal, you bought a dvd drive, it came with software, but the software wasnt compatable with linux, why shouldnt you be allowed to use it in linux legally?
[05:13] <kalenedrael> because linux has to use libdvdcss
[05:14] <crimsun> Chris_Tucker: no, the licenses are specifically for Windows
[05:14] <kalenedrael> but screw it, i don't give a shit about that
[05:14] <crimsun> Chris_Tucker: and we all know that Windows != Linux
[05:14] <Chris_Tucker> i am aware o 
[05:14] <Chris_Tucker> f this
[05:14] <crimsun> so we legally are not allowed to
[05:14] <kalenedrael> the dvd drive doesn't come with a license
[05:15] <kalenedrael> any software does, though
[05:15] <crimsun> it's inane, yes, but that's how it is.
[05:15] <kalenedrael> (last time i checked)
[05:15] <kalenedrael> you mean insane?
[05:15] <crimsun> no, inane
[05:15] <kalenedrael> (i know, inane is a word)
[05:15] <kalenedrael> i think insane is a better way to put it, but meh
[05:15] <crimsun> six of one kind or half a dozen
[05:16] <kalenedrael> well, still
[05:16] <kalenedrael> if you get a dvd drive but don't install any software, you didn't agree to anything
[05:16] <kalenedrael> or you shouldn't have, anyway
[05:20] <Chris_Tucker> thanks guys
[05:20] <Chris_Tucker> i now am watching a dvd :D
[05:23] <Chris_Tucker> im really likeing this... before i was running ubuntu on my 400mhz celery here, then i tried it on my amd duron 2000+, and its running so nice i think ima switch the way i have stuff set up and go linux mainly on the amd and use this thing for my simple windows stuff
[05:23] <MarcC-away> did the same thing here...from celeron to desktop PC after I got it how I wanted it.
[05:24] <Chris_Tucker> its 1 am here i have to work in 9 hrs but im hooked
[05:25] <kalenedrael> hmm
[05:25] <kalenedrael> it's 1am? what time zone are you in?
[05:25] <Chris_Tucker> NST - newfoundland
[05:25] <Chris_Tucker> that big island on the east coast
[05:26] <kalenedrael> ah
[05:26] <kalenedrael> yeah, that explains it
[05:26] <kalenedrael> you don't have that stupid daylight savings time either, right?
[05:26] <kalenedrael> i'm on the east coast of the US
[05:26] <Chris_Tucker> no we have that
[05:26] <kalenedrael> oh
[05:26] <kalenedrael> you're two time zones over, then?
[05:26] <ubuntu> hello
[05:26] <kalenedrael> hello
[05:26] <Chris_Tucker> i guess
[05:27] <kalenedrael> what time is it over there, precisely
[05:27] <kalenedrael> ?
[05:27] <Chris_Tucker> 12:56am
[05:27] <Chris_Tucker> Mon Jul 25 00:57:08 2005
[05:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. 12 hours exactly
[05:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mon Jul 25 12:57:42 CST 2005
[05:27] <kalenedrael> hmm
[05:27] <Chris_Tucker> im watching the matrix on my newly installed linux, how suiting ^_^
[05:28] <kalenedrael> 00:57?
[05:28] <kalenedrael> oh, you're in one of those half-hour-shifted zones
[05:28] <kalenedrael> 23:28 here
[05:28] <kalenedrael> oh, in the second matrix movie, trinity uses nmap to hack the power plant
[05:29] <Chris_Tucker> yep
[05:29] <Chris_Tucker> i noticed that the first time i saw it
[05:29] <Chris_Tucker> i hit pause.. framed back
[05:29] <kalenedrael> i saw it on the nmap website
[05:29] <Chris_Tucker> and studied it
[05:29] <kalenedrael> yeah, it's 'real' hacking, not the stupid 3D and fancy graphics crap you see in other movies
[05:30] <Chris_Tucker> yep
[05:30] <Chris_Tucker> they really thought the matrix stuff through well
[05:30] <TestMAD> hackers comes to mind
[05:30] <kalenedrael> yeah...
[05:30] <Chris_Tucker> its ALL real or possible
[05:30] <TestMAD> johnnie nmeonic
[05:31] <kalenedrael> well, obviously there are some movie twists
[05:31] <kalenedrael> like the car chase
[05:31] <kalenedrael> 1) if the agent can jump on a car and totally destroy it, why didn't he do it to trinity's car?
[05:32] <Chris_Tucker> wanted them alive
[05:32] <Chris_Tucker> to get the access codes to zion
[05:32] <kalenedrael> 2) if a few bullets can blow a car up, why doesn't trinity's car get blown up?
[05:32] <kalenedrael> (the twins shoot a few bullets at some car and it blows up)
[05:33] <kalenedrael> i suppose
[05:33] <Chris_Tucker> hm well thats true, they did pull that stunt
[05:33] <kalenedrael> but if the car flipped over, they could survive too
[05:33] <Chris_Tucker> 98% real or possible :)
[05:33] <kalenedrael> oh, and 3) why didn't the agent shoot out the car's tires as soon as possible?
[05:33] <kalenedrael> (or the twins for that matter)
[05:33] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know of an iTouch thinger that works with kaffeine? i have a logitech keyboard
[05:34] <Chris_Tucker> kalenedrael, 97
[05:34] <kalenedrael> heh
[05:34] <Chris_Tucker> stop massacreing my favorite movie :(
[05:34] <kalenedrael> heh
[05:34] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know of an iTouch thinger that works with kaffeine? i have a logitech keyboard
[05:35] <kalenedrael> the first one was great, the second and third were ok
[05:35] <kalenedrael> no, i don't know about such a thing
[05:37] <Chris_Tucker> ive seen something about one somewhere, i'll search tomorrow at work
[06:19] <weirdcreep> anyoen here from ubunut
[06:20] <weirdcreep> #ubuntu
[06:22] <thoreauputic> weirdcreep: of course - why do you ask?
[06:22] <Dhraakellian> $ startx -- :1
[06:22] <Dhraakellian> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[06:22] <Dhraakellian> hmm
[06:22] <weirdcreep> thoreauputic i am banned and dont know why
[06:23] <thoreauputic> weirdcreep: ah i see
[06:23] <weirdcreep> thoreauputic Can u plz ask for me[
[06:24] <thoreauputic> weirdcreep: why not /msg an op?
[06:24] <thoreauputic> weirdcreep:  /msg crimsun and ask him to look at the ban list? 
[06:25] <crimsun> I don't have ops here, I don't _think_
[06:25] <crimsun> seth_k does
[06:26] <crimsun> oh, he meant for #ubuntu?
[06:26] <thoreauputic> crimsun: yes
[07:25] <weirdcreep> hello crimsun
[07:27] <crimsun> weirdcreep: hi
[07:27] <weirdcreep> can u plz tell me why im banned on #ubuntu
[07:31] <crimsun> there's no reason listed, though daniels banned you
[07:31] <crimsun> he's very conservative about banning, so you must have done something extremely aggravating.
[07:32] <weirdcreep> yeah i tend to do extremely aggravatin things even tho i dont realize it
[07:33] <Paradoxx> *sigh* the version of kopete that ships with kubuntu dosen't work with msn...
[07:34] <Paradoxx> or rather the version of kubuntu i have dosen't work...
[07:34] <Paradoxx> outside of signing in thru a jabber server, does any1 have any ideas of how i could get it to work?
[07:35] <weirdcreep> jabber has msn?
[07:35] <Paradoxx> you can use the jabber protocol as a gateway to msn...
[07:35] <Paradoxx> for jabber servers that support it, that is...
[07:35] <crimsun> Paradoxx: it works here.
[07:35] <weirdcreep> really can u tell me more about that how it works
[07:36] <Paradoxx> ..sure i think i still have the link up
[07:36] <weirdcreep> tahnks
[07:36] <crimsun> Paradoxx: I'm using Kopete from hoary-updates, though, on kubuntu.org
[07:37] <crimsun>  *** 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary2 0
[07:37] <crimsun>         500 http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages
[07:37] <Paradoxx> weirdcreep: http://kde.ground.cz/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete+Jabber+Transport
[07:38] <Paradoxx> weirdcreep: thats the link weird...
[07:38] <Paradoxx> crimsun: i tried udpateing kopete with knaptic but it crashed midway, so i didn't bother..
[07:38] <crimsun> Paradoxx: update using aptitude
[07:39] <crimsun> I was just signed in to MSN a minute ago
[07:40] <weirdcreep> umm ill brb gonna boot into ubuntu i wanna try this msn jabber thing plz dont leave
[07:40] <Paradoxx> np
[07:40] <Paradoxx> *sigh* only one thing preventing me from making the linux switch atm...
[07:41] <Paradoxx> my winxp installation crashed the other day, and that was pretty much the last straw...
[07:41] <Paradoxx> i'm just trying to see if i can recover my stuff...
[07:41] <Paradoxx> all that animie etc would b a PAIN to red/l
[07:41] <Paradoxx> then its str8 ubuntu for me...
[07:43] <ricosuave17> hey im weirdcreep
[07:43] <Paradoxx> k
[07:43] <Paradoxx> w/b
[07:44] <ricosuave17> ok Paradoxx  dude i once tried jabber but i never understood it
[07:45] <Paradoxx> ricosuave17: np..what you mean exactly?
[07:45] <ricosuave17> i mean i dont know how it works in terms of actually chatting to people
[07:45] <Paradoxx> k
[07:45] <Paradoxx> well, i'm not sure if i'd b the best persons to explain it...
[07:46] <Paradoxx> but esesntially its a server based IM client...
[07:46] <Paradoxx> and diffrent persons can set up their own servers etc etc..
[07:46] <Paradoxx> it is open source if i recall correctly...
[07:46] <Paradoxx> hmm, let me check, when in doubt..google it..
[07:46] <Paradoxx> lol
[07:46] <ricosuave17> lol
[07:47] <ricosuave17> Paradoxx:  dude can i get that msn jabber link plz
[07:47] <Paradoxx> ricosuave17: http://kde.ground.cz/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete+Jabber+Transport
[07:48] <ricosuave17> Paradoxx:  r u an experinced linux person
[07:49] <Paradoxx> ricosuave17: nope..
[07:49] <ricosuave17> a noob?
[07:50] <Paradoxx> well, i'm learning... not sure, how much of a novice you consider a newb...
[07:50] <Paradoxx> but problems i have, i'm smart enough to figure out most stuff...
[07:50] <ricosuave17> ok then ill say were about equal in knowlodge
[07:50] <Paradoxx> i'm not gonna fold my arms and cry or anything..
[07:50] <ricosuave17> well i do
[07:51] <Paradoxx> i'm actually looking to make a full switch to ubuntu, after my last winxp installion died on me..
[07:51] <Paradoxx> thx to a damn hurricane that was causeing power disruptions..
[07:51] <ricosuave17> well i know waht thats like
[07:51] <ricosuave17> btw do u use jabber a lot
[07:51] <Paradoxx> lol, that will teach me to use my machine during a hurricane..
[07:52] <Paradoxx> yep, so, i'm gonna b putting together an external hd, and then hopefully pulling some stuff (animie, other files) from that hd, and then its str8 ubuntu for me...
[07:53] <Paradoxx> any problems i have after there, i'll just have to deal with i guess...
[07:53] <Paradoxx> if you just go to the jabber site, it has most of the stuff you would probably want to kno about jabber etc...
[07:53] <Paradoxx> http://www.jabber.org/
[07:54] <ricosuave17> but what server should i use cuase im trying to use the kopete thingy
[07:54] <Paradoxx> you tried the servers in the wiki?
[07:55] <ricosuave17> im not sure
[07:56] <ricosuave17> what server u use
[07:56] <Paradoxx> what you mean?
[07:56] <ricosuave17> its ask me for a server when i join
[07:56] <Paradoxx> what client you useing to connect to the servers?
[07:56] <ricosuave17> kopete
[07:57] <Paradoxx> try jabber.org.uk
[07:57] <Paradoxx> you might have to register first though
[07:58] <ricosuave17> yes taht what im trying to do
[07:59] <ricosuave17> r u in england
[07:59] <Paradoxx> nope
[07:59] <Paradoxx> though i'm love to go to college there...
[07:59] <Paradoxx> but thats another story..
[07:59] <Paradoxx> i'm from jamaica
[08:00] <ricosuave17> cool
[08:00] <ricosuave17> u smoke pot?
[08:02] <Paradoxx> *sigh*
[08:02] <Paradoxx> lol
[08:02] <Paradoxx> nope
[08:03] <ricosuave17> well i like jamaicans
[08:03] <Paradoxx> how many do you kno?
[08:03] <ricosuave17> few
[08:04] <Paradoxx> cool
[08:04] <Paradoxx> where you from?
[08:04] <ricosuave17> US hispanic
[08:05] <Paradoxx> cool
[08:05] <ricosuave17> lol. ur black?
[08:06] <Paradoxx> brown..i like to seperate myself from the commoners...
[08:07] <ricosuave17> really?
[08:08] <Paradoxx> just kidding lol
[08:08] <Paradoxx> haha, thought i typed that..
[08:08] <Paradoxx> :P
[08:10] <ricosuave17> really well i know jamica
[08:10] <ricosuave17> cause of james bond
[08:10] <Paradoxx> *sigh*
[08:10] <ricosuave17> no cause of the books
[08:10] <Paradoxx> don't believe everything you see...
[08:10] <Paradoxx> ...every1 down here, lives in trees
[08:10] <ricosuave17> no no dude the books are good
[08:11] <Paradoxx> oh ok..
[08:11] <Paradoxx> its intresting though...
[08:11] <ricosuave17> cause ian fleming lived in jamica
[08:11] <Paradoxx> when you tell some1 you are from ja...
[08:11] <ricosuave17> and had a hose there
[08:11] <Paradoxx> there responses, usually include
[08:12] <Paradoxx> 1. do you smoke weed/pot/cannibus / 2. Do you kno bob marley? / 3. People down there really live in trees? /4. Do you have electricity
[08:12] <Paradoxx> etc
[08:12] <Paradoxx> lol
[08:12] <ricosuave17> lol
[08:12] <ricosuave17> im hispanic im a culture person except for the pot thing. i like pot
[08:13] <Paradoxx> aight
[08:13] <ricosuave17> brb
[08:13] <Paradoxx> np
[08:14] <usaownz> Kewl
[08:15] <ricosuave17> ok im here again
[08:15] <ricosuave17> so Paradoxx do lots of people smoke?
[08:16] <Paradoxx> i kno a decent amount of ppl who do, i guess....
[08:16] <Paradoxx> it all depends who you talk to..
[08:16] <ricosuave17> i hear it legal for the natives
[08:16] <ricosuave17> or something like that
[08:16] <Paradoxx> i have never tried it myself though...
[08:17] <ricosuave17> i havent either
[08:18] <ricosuave17> i hear jamica is beautifull
[08:18] <Paradoxx> hehe, that you shoudl believe...
[08:18] <Paradoxx> i love the place..
[08:18] <scanner> Hi people
[08:18] <Paradoxx> though i'm dieing to get some diversity in my life
[08:18] <Paradoxx> scanner: hi
[08:18] <scanner> I'm a Genie
[08:18] <scanner> :-p
[08:18] <Paradoxx> how many wishes do i get??
[08:19] <ricosuave17> i want wished
[08:19] <scanner> i love Linux
[08:19] <scanner> :-)
[08:19] <ricosuave17> scanner:  dont ever say that
[08:19] <scanner> Ci sono italiani?
[08:19] <Paradoxx> only wish i want is world peace
[08:19] <ricosuave17> io sono
[08:19] <ricosuave17> io parlarle il italiano
[08:19] <Paradoxx> Leeeerrrrooooyyyy Jinkins...
[08:19] <cebonx> test only
[08:20] <Paradoxx> any1 here watched the clip?
[08:21] <mchonis> hey all
[08:21] <mchonis> I have a problem with a usb external hard drive
[08:21] <scanner> Do you know Megahal?
[08:21] <mchonis> It shows up on my desktop
[08:21] <mchonis> but it wont let me change or delete files or folders
[08:21] <Paradoxx> what filesystem is it?
[08:21] <mchonis> I tried changing this in the properties menu.. but nothing happens
[08:22] <mchonis> NTFS
[08:22] <mchonis> i think
[08:22] <scanner> Winzozz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:22] <mchonis> ya
[08:22] <mchonis> its from my windows machine
[08:22] <scanner> Well
[08:22] <Paradoxx> thats the prob
[08:22] <Paradoxx> you could probably try reading it with Captive
[08:22] <TestMAD> on read suuport of ntfs
[08:23] <mchonis> what is captive?
[08:23] <TestMAD> write is experimental
[08:23] <Paradoxx> its a prog that allows reading/writing to NTFS, but as test just said...
[08:23] <Paradoxx> do so at your own risk
[08:23] <scanner> yuo have to put umask=0222 to the /etc/fstab file
[08:23] <mchonis> hmm
[08:23] <mchonis> nah.. i'm not gonna risk it
[08:24] <mchonis> its got all the mp3's i've downloaded since junior high
[08:24] <mchonis> like 100 gigs
[08:24] <scanner> Open a terminal
[08:24] <Paradoxx> yea, thats a possible heart attack..
[08:24] <scanner> do a "sudo vi /etc/fstab"
[08:25] <scanner> Then add this line:
[08:26] <scanner> "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs umask=0222 0 0"
[08:27] <scanner> Hey mchonis
[08:28] <Paradoxx> scanner: what does that do scanner?
[08:28] <mchonis> ya
[08:28] <scanner> are you here?
[08:28] <mchonis> i'm here
[08:28] <Kmorph> Hi guys
[08:28] <scanner> Have you put this line in your "/etc/fstab"
[08:28] <scanner> ?
[08:29] <mchonis> I don't think i'm gonna do it.. I dun wanna risk losing my files
[08:29] <mchonis> thanks tho
[08:29] <scanner> Ok
[08:29] <mchonis> I put it in there.. but I commented it, in case I feel like doing it later
[08:29] <scanner> Goof
[08:30] <mchonis> goof?
[08:30] <scanner> good :-p
[08:30] <mchonis> o.. lol
[08:30] <scanner> sorry
[08:30] <scanner> :-)
[08:31] <Paradoxx> so scanner, that allows user to mount and read/write NTFS partitions?
[08:32] <scanner> Yes. Anyone know the software megahal?
[08:32] <Kmorph> Need some help. My Harddisk crashed and I'm using the Kubuntu Live CD to access it. The problem is that I need to be root to read from it once I mount it but I have no idea how to go about that. Help
[08:32] <scanner> I have used the same conf file and my usb harddisk
[08:32] <scanner> work properly
[08:33] <scanner> :-)
[08:33] <mchonis> yeh, but not worth risking 7 years worth of mp3s
[08:33] <Kmorph> The main idea is that I want to play my music from the hadr disk using Amorok
[08:33] <mchonis> (-:
[08:34] <scanner> :-O
[08:34] <scanner> 7 years?????????????
[08:34] <mchonis> o(^_^)o
[08:34] <mchonis> ya
[08:34] <scanner> Someone know Megahal?
[08:34] <mchonis> since the napster days
[08:35] <scanner> :-O
[08:35] <scanner> :-D
[08:35] <scanner> Hey?
[08:45] <TestMAD> nite all
[08:51] <ricosuave17> ok i want to install something using apt-get but it says its only avaliable as soruce what od i do
[09:14] <Kmorph> #hi licksjp
[09:14] <licksjp> Hi
[09:19] <Kmorph> licksjp::have you checked out the site?
[09:19] <licksjp> I'm checking now>kmorph
[09:20] <Kmorph> Ok -> licksjp
[09:31] <Kmorph> Is there a Japanese translation on Kubuntu
[09:31] <Kmorph> ?
[09:33] <licksjp> I hope Jp version in Kubuntu
[09:35] <Kmorph> licksjp::You can download the translated version of KDE
[09:42] <Kmorph> licksjp::brb
[09:42] <Computer__Guru> hai nikkia
[09:43] <licksjp> later>Kmorph
[09:43] <Computer__Guru> nikkia, ive completely redone my desktop.. i think you'd like this one :)
[09:44] <Computer__Guru> except it exploits nekkid women :D
[09:53] <Mose`> how to make shotcut of "Home" on desktop?
[09:59] <martinjh99> Is there a kubuntu-dev channel?
[10:09] <LuNaTiK^GuY> anybody ever used kdevelop3 ?
[10:20] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how can i get the c/c++ headers?
[10:22] <xsm> evening all
[10:23] <Mose`> hi
[10:23] <licksjp> hi
[10:24] <LuNaTiK^GuY> its morning here ;)
[10:24] <xsm> heh wheres here
[10:25] <licksjp> It's evening here?
[10:25] <xsm> here for me = nz
[10:26] <licksjp> I live in Japan
[10:26] <licksjp> >xsm
[10:27] <xsm> :)
[10:27] <licksjp> ^^
[10:27] <Mose`> :}
[10:28] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i live in malta ;)
[10:29] <licksjp> How many CD in kubunts?
[10:29] <xsm> licksjp: i just dl'ed the one and apt-geted the rest
[10:32] <licksjp> Can choose Language in Japanese about kubuntu
[10:32] <licksjp> ?
[10:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> i don't know
[10:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> yes
[10:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> hai
[10:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> in control center
[10:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> Country/Region and Language
[10:36] <licksjp> oic ,thank u>BROKEN_LADDER
[10:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> do all scripts in /etc/init.d/ get executed at boot up with "start" after them?
[10:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> like should /etc/init.d/realtime be executed as "/etc/init.d/realtime start"
[10:43] <insanekane> BROKEN_LADDER: yes
[10:43] <insanekane> BROKEN_LADDER: what gets started up depends on /etc/rc.<num> where <num> is your runlevel
[10:57] <olo> olo
[10:57] <olo> queria decir ola
[11:03] <ValheruLord> whats the grapohical installer name of kubuntu
[11:06] <charmi> Alguien sabe donde guarda kontact los archivos de configuracion para poder hacer una copia de seguridad
[11:17] <charmi> Alguien sabe donde guarda kontact los archivos de configuracion para poder hacer una copia de seguridad
[11:18] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how can i reconfigure x?
[11:23] <LuNaTiK^GuY> !x
[11:23] <ubotu> from memory, x is http://www.x.com
[11:26] <nikkia> bad ubotu, bad bad bad ubotu !
[11:26] <nikkia> ubotu: x is http://www.x.org
[11:26] <ubotu> ...but x is already something else...
[11:27] <nikkia> how do you change something ?
[11:28] <LuNaTiK^GuY> nikkia
[11:28] <LuNaTiK^GuY> wots the console command to reconfigure x?
[11:28] <nikkia> dunno
[11:28] <nikkia> i always configure by hand
[11:28] <LuNaTiK^GuY> any1 knows?
[11:28] <LuNaTiK^GuY> !xorg
[11:28] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, LuNaTiK^GuY
[11:29] <nikkia> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:29] <nikkia> try that
[11:30] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yeah i will
[11:31] <LuNaTiK^GuY> does debian 3.1 use xorg or xserver?
[11:31] <LuNaTiK^GuY> as in
[11:32] <LuNaTiK^GuY> does debian 3.1 use xorg?
[11:33] <P3L|C4N0> only Debian Sid
[11:33] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ic
[11:38] <pax> nikkia: I think it's forget
[11:38] <nikkia> pax, ah
[11:39] <nikkia> ubotu: forget x
[11:39] <ubotu> nikkia: i forgot x
[11:39] <nikkia> ubotu: x is http://www.x.org
[11:39] <ubotu> nikkia: okay
[11:39] <nikkia> pointing to one of paypal's dubious looking domains when people ask about X probably ISN'T the right behaviour :P
[11:39] <pax> hehe
[11:42] <nikkia> wheee, looks like firefox is getting near the end of its compilation
[11:43] <pax> gimme a .deb
[11:44] <nikkia> the only reason i have to recompile it, is because the one on moz's site is built against libstdc++5
[11:44] <nikkia> and i only have libstdc++6 :/
[11:44] <nikkia> (which iirc suggests that firefox was built with gcc 2.95)
[11:45] <pax> is the new ver in backports?
[11:45] <nikkia> dunno
[11:45] <nikkia> i'm setting up LFS here
[11:45] <pax> aha
[12:18] <nikkia> nice, no more 'script-fu' menu in gimp
[12:35] <jpatrick> LuNaTik^GuY
[12:50] <otep> yo
[12:53] <LuNaTiK^GuY> yes jpatrick ?@
[12:53] <michaelk> hi all
[12:54] <jpatrick> you got to help me get my KDevelop back
[12:54] <jpatrick> PM?
[12:54] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ok
[12:55] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how can i help?
[12:56] <jpatrick> go to the menu then KDevelop right-click -> edit menu then tell me what the name and command boxes say...
[12:57] <LuNaTiK^GuY> right click on each subprogram
[12:57] <LuNaTiK^GuY> or on the whole kdevelop pack?
[12:57] <jpatrick> yeah...
[12:57] <LuNaTiK^GuY> coz the entries are different
[12:57] <jpatrick> I know
[12:57] <jpatrick> reinstalling didn't work
[12:57] <LuNaTiK^GuY> the main is just KDevelop
[12:57] <LuNaTiK^GuY> no command option
[12:58] <rafaelf> Holas :-)
[12:58] <LuNaTiK^GuY> documentation viewer is KDevelop Assistant/kdevassistant %u
[12:58] <jpatrick> rafaelf -> #kubuntu-es
[12:58] <rafaelf> Alguien de la lista ha usado vmware en kumuntu?
[12:58] <jpatrick> rafaelf -> #kubuntu-es
[12:58] <LuNaTiK^GuY> c/c++ is: KDevelop: C/C++/kdevelop3 --profile CandCppIDE %u
[12:59] <LuNaTiK^GuY> kde/c++ is: KDevelop: KDE/C++/kdevelop3 --profile KDECppIDE %u
[12:59] <LuNaTiK^GuY> ide for ruby is: KDevelop: Ruby/kdevelop3 --profile RubyIDE %u
[01:00] <LuNaTiK^GuY> Scripting language is: KDevelop: Scripting / kdevelop3 --profile ScriptingLanguageIDE %u
[01:00] <LuNaTiK^GuY> multilangiuage is: KDevelop: Multilanguage / kdevelop3 %u
[01:00] <LuNaTiK^GuY> interface designer is : KDevelop Designer / kdevdesigner %i %m -caption "%c"
[01:00] <LuNaTiK^GuY> does that help jpatrick ?
[01:01] <jpatrick> yes
[01:01] <VincentMX> hi
[01:01] <wincide> hi all, i'm looking for a putty like program, but with qt, not gtk ... someone knows ??
[01:02] <jpatrick> wincide!
[01:02] <wincide> hi jpatrick 
[01:02] <wincide> :)
[01:03] <jpatrick> :)
[01:03] <hettar> whats wrong with just typing ssh x.x.x.x ?
[01:04] <VincentMX> why doesn't the ubuntu installer install kde by default? or at least ask either you want Gnome or KDE?
[01:04] <VincentMX> brb
[01:04] <jpatrick> because there's Kubunut
[01:04] <LuNaTiK^GuY> how can i get wmv codecs?
[01:04] <jpatrick> damn
[01:04] <jpatrick> Kubuntu*
[01:06] <wincide> hettar: that s good for me, but not for other users in this pc, i'd like a ssh gui 
[01:06] <wincide> i need a Xwindow ssh
[01:06] <wincide> :\
[01:12] <jpatrick> It works woohoo
[01:21] <mats> woho
[01:32] <hettar> hmm wireless really sucks the battery dry :(
[01:33] <ilba7r> hettar i heaaaar ya
[01:34] <mats> is there anyplaces where i can download kde bugfixes? 
[01:34] <ilba7r> i had the wirless card configured for a while then all of a sudden it does not work :(
[01:34] <hettar> what card ?
[01:34] <ilba7r> broadcom
[01:34] <ilba7r> i followed the how to to install the ndiswrapper
[01:35] <hettar> hmm I had to install a newer ndiswrapper than comes with ubuntu for my broadcom to work
[01:35] <ilba7r> ndiswrapper 1.2
[01:35] <ilba7r> worked for a while
[01:35] <hettar> yeah I think so
[01:35] <ilba7r> then had to many disconnections
[01:35] <ilba7r> and finally it will not work
[01:36] <hettar> I had a linksys wireless router which used to do that. After they replaced it 3 times I told them to give me another brand
[01:36] <ilba7r> do not know if it is the wrapper or the driver bcmwl5
[01:37] <hettar> I use the bcmwl5 and haven't had any problems with it
[01:37] <ilba7r> i do not have linux support for mine
[01:37] <ilba7r> works well on window
[01:37] <ilba7r> hettar did you use the driver that comes with window
[01:38] <hettar> I will never get a laptop with broadcom again. They suck. My ASUS W2 should arrive this week. It has an intel
[01:38] <ilba7r> or did you download it from the web
[01:38] <hettar> ilba7r: yeah, but I have found that it doesn't work until I actual configure everything once
[01:38] <hettar> I got the one from the ndis site
[01:38] <hettar> err ndiswrapper site
[01:39] <ilba7r> i tried to re download it but unfourtanetly the link is dead
[01:39] <hettar> I can send you nid to try if you want. I have a 4306 card
[01:40] <ilba7r> thats my card
[01:40] <ilba7r> would be great if you can
[01:40] <ilba7r> lol
[01:41] <hettar> damn battery got too flat :(
[01:41] <ilba7r> :(
[01:41] <ilba7r> was telling you that my card is exactly like yours
[01:42] <ilba7r> would appreciate it if you can send me the driver
[01:42] <ilba7r> ilba7r@gmail.com
[01:42] <hettar> k
[01:42] <ilba7r> :)
[01:43] <ilba7r> oh you can send the file directly through x-chat nice
[01:46] <hettar> I've also got a dodgy shell script which scans for networks and connects to any for which I have a configuration file
[01:46] <hettar> I run it as a daemon on startup.
[01:46] <hettar> as I said it is pretty dodgy
[01:46] <ilba7r> the file did not come through do not know why
[01:46] <ilba7r> perhaps my firewall
[01:46] <ilba7r> can you send it by mail better
[01:46] <hettar> probably my firewall. I'll email it
[01:46] <ilba7r> thanx
[01:47] <ilba7r> i too had the disconnection everytime it pick up the signal of another router
[01:47] <ilba7r> i used kwifimanager to try to fix that with no help
[01:54] <simone> hi
[01:55] <simone> i have a problem with kubuntu 5.04 and password in the network setting
[01:55] <ilba7r> ?
[01:56] <ilba7r> can you explain more
[01:56] <hettar> still sending
[01:56] <simone> when i write the password
[01:57] <simone> not enter in administration setting
[01:57] <simone> scuse me for my bed english
[01:57] <ilba7r> oh hettar you have slow connection sorry for troubling you like that
[01:58] <ilba7r> simone press kde menu>system>networking
[01:58] <ilba7r> you can manage your network from there
[01:58] <simone> it is not
[02:00] <simone> I use Control Centre
[02:00] <hettar> ilba7r: No I have broadband but the link is rather saturated at the moment
[02:00] <ilba7r> i had a problem like that sometime the control center crash when you go to administrative mode
[02:01] <simone> yes, i have this problem
[02:01] <_otep> have you added the your "normal user" to the /etc/sudoers?
[02:01] <_otep> have you added your "normal user" to the /etc/sudoers?
[02:02] <hettar> or just add them to the admin group in k/ubuntu
[02:02] <ilba7r> _otep just putting normal user there
[02:02] <simone> otep: no
[02:02] <_otep> add it
[02:02] <ilba7r> thanx for the tip _otep
[02:02] <simone> :-)
[02:03] <hettar> ilba7r: should be there now
[02:03] <_otep> dont ask me what to exactly add tho.
[02:03] <_otep> otep    ALL=(ALL) PASSWD: ALL
[02:03] <_otep> is what i did
[02:03] <ilba7r> will check it now
[02:03] <_otep> w/c is pretty dumb, i think
[02:04] <simone> ok
[02:04] <ilba7r> does it solve the crash of the printmanager too when you use administrative mode
[02:04] <_otep> and dont forget, "man sudoers"
[02:04] <hettar> ilba7r: hang on my mail server rejected the sys file :\
[02:05] <hettar> I'll have to tar it up
[02:05] <simone> otep:?
[02:05] <_otep> yo?
[02:05] <ilba7r> ok
[02:08] <simone> :-(
[02:08] <hettar> try now
[02:09] <ilba7r> got it herrar
[02:09] <ilba7r> thanx a lot
[02:09] <ilba7r> ok will go try it now 
[02:09] <ilba7r> take care
[02:09] <hettar> later. I'm off to bed
[02:09] <_otep> simone: what?
[02:09] <simone> i'm not enter in the network setting
[02:11] <_otep> what do you see?
[02:11] <simone> i reboot the pc
[02:11] <_otep> ok
[02:12] <_otep> what did you do anyway
[02:12] <_otep> errr...
[02:14] <dark_joger> hi every one............................;p
[02:43] <hussam> koffice 1.4.1 has been released. will be see Kubuntu packages?
[02:59] <simone> .-)
[03:10] <ubotu> ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT has landed!
[03:22] <nimatar> hello,
[03:22] <nimatar> I was following this how-to: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#h2get
[03:22] <nimatar> but getting an error
[03:22] <nimatar> nimatar@polaris:~$ gpg  --keyserver  wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net  --recv-keys  1F41B907
[03:22] <nimatar> gpg: keyring `/home/nimatar/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
[03:22] <nimatar> gpg: keyring `/home/nimatar/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created
[03:22] <nimatar> gpg: can't get key from keyserver: Timeout della connessione
[03:22] <nimatar> gpg: Total number processed: 0
[03:22] <nimatar> has anybody any idea on how to solve?
[03:24] <paines> nimatar: firewall ?
[03:25] <nimatar> paines: I've a router, but i've abilitated DMZ so all ports should be open...
[03:25] <paines> then try another keyserver
[03:25] <nimatar> or does kubuntu install iptables by default?
[03:25] <paines> kde comes with kgpg
[03:25] <paines> is a frontend for gpg 
[03:25] <paines> u can import/export keys
[03:26] <paines> give it a try
[03:26] <paines> kubuntu does install iptables by default
[03:26] <paines> but there are no rules configured iirc
[03:26] <nimatar> so that's not the problem, right?
[03:27] <paines> no, should not be
[03:27] <nimatar> ok thanks
[03:27] <paines> like i said, try this kgpg tool
[03:27] <paines> in there you can choose betwenn 5 diffrent keyservers
[03:27] <paines> query for a gpg by hex number or email adress
[03:27] <paines> and so on
[03:27] <paines> imho, a nice tool
[03:28] <nimatar> ok, I'will try that
[03:28] <nimatar> The GnuPG configuration file was not found. Please make sure you have GnuPG installed. Should KGpg try to create a config file ?
[03:29] <nimatar> I answered yes, ok?
[03:29] <paines> yes
[03:31] <paines> nimatar: when I queried for my keys I had to try it whith diffrent keyservers too
[03:32] <othernoob> how do i switch between desktops again?
[03:41] <simone> hi
[03:41] <jpatrick> hi
[03:42] <simone> i have a problem with a lan
[03:42] <jpatrick> ok...
[03:43] <simone> i've 2 pc, server with 192.168.0.1 and client 192.168.0.2
[03:44] <simone> server is connected to internet
[03:44] <simone> with ppp0
[03:45] <jpatrick> it's a gateway?
[03:45] <simone> yes
[03:45] <simone> the problem is...
[03:45] <jpatrick> is the pc in question using Windows?
[03:45] <simone> in the remote address client not exsist
[03:46] <simone> client use winxp
[03:46] <simone> scuse me, server not exsist
[03:47] <simone> i see the client but not me, not the server
[03:47] <nimatar> KGpg keeps saying "Importing..."
[03:48] <jpatrick> hm...
[03:49] <paines> nimatar: since when ?
[03:50] <nimatar> since 15 minuts
[03:50] <nimatar> or something like this
[03:50] <simone> the client see the client
[03:50] <simone> the server see only the client
[03:50] <simone> !?
[03:50] <ubotu> simone: Wish i knew
[03:51] <nimatar> paines i've also tried some other servers but I always get a timeout
[03:51] <paines> nimatar: you changed ther server ? becuase it should only take a couple of minutes
[03:51] <paines> hmm
[03:51] <paines> strange
[03:51] <paines> nimatar: you sure that all ports on fw are open ?
[03:52] <nimatar> yes they shold be
[03:52] <Riddell> hoary using volunteers needed to test koffice 1.4.1
[03:52] <segfault2k> hi people :D
[03:52] <nimatar> I never had problems
[03:52] <segfault2k> Riddell: hi man :D
[03:52] <segfault2k> how r u
[03:53] <simone> :-(
[03:53] <Riddell> segfault2k: I'm all good.  are you volunteering?
[03:53] <segfault2k> for why?
[03:53] <Riddell> segfault2k: for testing koffice 1.4.1 packages
[03:53] <segfault2k> eee
[03:53] <segfault2k> yeah :D
[03:53] <segfault2k> thats what for i come
[03:53] <segfault2k> XD
[03:54] <Riddell> deb http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/hoary-koffice141 hoary-updates main
[03:54] <segfault2k> i have to compile it? or do whe have mirrors?
[03:54] <segfault2k> yeah :D
[03:54] <segfault2k> thanks
[03:54] <simone> thanx
[03:54] <simone> bye
[03:54] <Riddell> just use that, install and tell me if it works
[03:54] <segfault2k> ok ;)
[03:54] <segfault2k> hey a question, breezy stills broken?
[03:54] <Riddell> segfault2k: as far as I know X is still broken but will be fixed soon
[03:55] <segfault2k> rlz :D
[03:56] <segfault2k> The following packages will be upgraded:
[03:56] <segfault2k>   karbon kchart kformula kivio kivio-data koffice koffice-data koffice-libs
[03:56] <segfault2k>   koshell kpresenter krita kspread kugar kword
[03:59] <segfault2k> is upgrading Riddell 
[04:02] <segfault2k> 2 minutes to go :D
[04:02] <segfault2k> 2 minutes to middddddddddddddnight :D
[04:03] <segfault2k> good song :P
[04:11] <Riddell> segfault2k: any luck?
[04:12] <segfault2k> http://loretito.homelinux.org/~segfault/koffice141.png
[04:12] <segfault2k> look at the shot
[04:13] <Riddell> segfault2k: looks good to me
[04:13] <segfault2k> yeah :D
[04:14] <segfault2k> :p
[04:14] <segfault2k> is fine :D
[04:14] <segfault2k> rules =D
[04:14] <segfault2k> thanks
[04:14] <Riddell> segfault2k: gonnae no start KDE/Gnome flamewars in #ubuntu
[04:14] <Riddell> segfault2k: don't tell anyone, it's not released yet
[04:14] <segfault2k> [10:14]  <Riddell> segfault2k: don't tell anyone, it's not released yet - np =X
[04:15] <segfault2k> [10:14]  <Riddell> segfault2k: gonnae no start KDE/Gnome flamewars in #ubuntu <- i stop :D, there was only a joke
[04:15] <Riddell> segfault2k: not everyone in #ubuntu understands jokes :)
[04:15] <segfault2k> hahah ok
[04:15] <segfault2k> i'll remember it for the next time
[04:23] <Chambers_> hey guys, are there any programs similar to newsleecher for linux?  I've tried PAN and don't really like it
[04:23] <segfault2k> kontact
[04:24] <Chambers_> isn't that just for contacts?
[04:24] <segfault2k> is a complete pim
[04:25] <Chambers_> i don't need a PIM
[04:25] <paines> knode
[04:27] <Chambers_> knode is great for reading, how about d/ling binaries?
[04:27] <segfault2k> Riddell: do you have some i18n's for koffice
[04:28] <buz> Chambers_: klibido
[04:34] <Chambers_> thanks guys!
[04:37] <jpatrick> right
[04:38] <apokryphos> hey segfault2k -- how you doin'? Long time no speak :)
[04:38] <segfault2k> wazap apokryphos how r u man
[04:39] <apokryphos> Yeah, really great. Finding it hard to contain my excitement -- just got my new iRiver PMP -- so great =)
[04:39] <segfault2k> its like an ipod?
[04:39] <apokryphos> Yup; quite like it. All iRiver devoutees will say "better" :P
[04:40] <apokryphos> can play videos, which is pretty cool. Screen is bigger than it looks (3.5") which is gravy
[04:40] <segfault2k> ho its rlz :D
[04:40] <segfault2k> *oh
[04:40] <segfault2k> congratulations man
[04:40] <segfault2k> well man, i have to go, take care, see ya, congratulations again
[04:40] <apokryphos> hehe
[04:41] <apokryphos> yeah, see ya.
[04:41] <otep[eat] > apok i ahve a pmp but i think archos rocks
[04:41] <apokryphos> Haven't heard of it.. is it good?
[04:41] <apokryphos> how'd you like your PMP? 
[04:42] <apokryphos> oh wait, I have seen them; handy Google images
[04:42] <otep[eat] > better than iPod, imo, since it plays different kinds of media
[04:43] <Chambers_> is it strictly audio?
[04:43] <otep[eat] > iRiver? no
[04:43] <apokryphos> only feature that iPod seems to have over is the artist/album/title sorting, which would come in pretty handy
[04:43] <apokryphos> this has a search though, so I'll have to sit tight to find out whether it makes up for it
[04:43] <otep[eat] > i dunno bout that since i dont have an iPod =D
[04:43] <apokryphos> Chambers_: photo/video (xvid etc)
[04:44] <Chambers_> that's awesome
[04:44] <otep[eat] > archos can record from tv, iriver doesnt
[04:44] <Chambers_> i want that
[04:46] <apokryphos> record from TV? Nice. iRiver has TV out... will have to wait to see how decent it is
[04:49] <Chambers_> do both of them work on linux?
[04:50] <apokryphos> Chambers_: archos... I dunno. But iRiver runs on a Linux system
[04:50] <apokryphos> (that's a yes)
[04:50] <Chambers_> very cool indeed
[05:03] <supernix> WASSUP
[05:06] <MIK3MAN> hey people
[05:07] <MIK3MAN> I actually installed Kbuntu, and I now have problems installing additional software, synaptic is replaced with Knaptic and I cant update the repositories. Can anyone offer me a link or help?
[05:07] <otep[eat] > have you tried apt-get?
[05:08] <MIK3MAN> otep[eat] : yeah, but like I said the repositories are not updated so it says package not found
[05:08] <otep[eat] > hmmm
[05:09] <MIK3MAN> otep[eat] : I tried editing /etc/apt/sources.list like it says, but I dont have permission
[05:09] <MIK3MAN> otep[eat] : do you know the console command to give me permission to edit this file?
[05:10] <otep[eat] > su?
[05:11] <MIK3MAN> no its a chmod command I believe
[05:11] <otep[eat] > hmm?
[05:11] <aseigo> MIK3MAN: do you prefer a console editor like vim or a graphical one like kwrite?
[05:11] <aseigo> (because you can do it with either, but the instructions are slightly different ;)
[05:11] <MIK3MAN> aseigo: I like visual like Kate
[05:12] <aseigo> MIK3MAN: ok.. you are running ssh on your machine, right?
[05:12] <aseigo> oh, wait. .. nmind.. no root password on kubuntu. feck.
[05:12] <MIK3MAN> heh
[05:12] <aseigo> well, fair enough... Alt-F2 (run command), kate for the command, then hit the options button
[05:12] <MIK3MAN> its up now yeah, but I have to warn it is a diff machine, its beside me
[05:13] <MIK3MAN> ok hold on :)
[05:13] <aseigo> select run as different user, root, put your password in and hopefully their patched kdesu works here =P
[05:13] <otep[eat] > cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:13] <otep[eat] > ooops
[05:13] <otep[eat] > sorry
[05:14] <aseigo> oh .. it's on a different machine? 
[05:14] <aseigo> hum... well, then ssh in and use sudo .. sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <otep[eat] > ei aseigo, why dya need to go through all that ssh and stuff? just wanna know
[05:17] <MIK3MAN> kate was crashing, I am rebooting the machine guys, I did sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list last night, but didnt know how to save the changes. 
[05:17] <MIK3MAN> I also did some chmod crap last night with that file... I think what I did was messed up!!
[05:19] <aseigo> otep[eat] : hrm? oh... well, i usually use fish:// to edit files remotely if i'm using kwrite/kate ... e.g. fish://root@somebox/path/to/file
[05:19] <otep[eat] > hmmm ok
[05:20] <aseigo> otep[eat] : and a trick is to fish:// to your local box .. e.g. fish://root@localhost/path/to/file to edit a local file as root ;)
[05:20] <PaNTHeRa_> i have a internet connection on windows, but when i pass to kubuntu, no internet [sorry i am not english] 
[05:20] <PaNTHeRa_> what can i do ?
[05:20] <MIK3MAN> otep[eat] : from what I see (and I am a linux noob) Synaptic was replaced with Kynaptic and the repository list in Kynaptic is only pointing to deb cdrom... etc... so when you do apt-get it searches the cdrom
[05:21] <MIK3MAN> or the existing packages I should say
[05:21] <otep[eat] > kynaptic cuz kubuntu uses kde, right? but you can also install synaptic... which i did
[05:21] <otep[eat] > hmmm
[05:22] <otep[eat] > did you chose "expert mode" when installing kbuntu?
[05:22] <MIK3MAN> otep[eat] : the real question should be... why is there not a gui in Kynaptic to switch repositories
[05:22] <otep[eat] > MIK3: that i dunno =D maybe in the future
[05:23] <sproingie> bleah, kynaptic
[05:23] <otep[eat] > ahhaha
[05:23] <MIK3MAN> guys wait.. you can open a terminal in Kate?? this may help
[05:24] <MIK3MAN> aseigo: you think fish will work for me?
[05:24] <otep[eat] > sproingie: aptitude looks niec
[05:24] <sproingie> i wish there was a gui version of it, draggable panes, scroll with mouse wheel, etc
[05:25] <sproingie> but otherwise the same functionality
[05:26] <MIK3MAN> I think I got kate as root user, hold on
[05:26] <sproingie> as it is, kynaptic isn't even as functional as synaptic.  and i find synaptic primitive
[05:26] <ep> Kynaptic is simple and easy to use, but it misses some powerful functions of its big brother, Synaptic.
[05:27] <ep> Hence, Kynaptic is more suited for new users, while experienced users might find Synaptic more appropriate.
[05:27] <sproingie> there should be an apt: kioslave
[05:27] <sproingie> clicky icons for packages
[05:27] <sproingie> drag them to the desktop to install
[05:27] <sproingie> drag to the trash to uninstall
[05:31] <MIK3MAN> holy crap guys, I got it!! added hoary main http, and universe
[05:31] <MIK3MAN> :O)
[05:32] <MIK3MAN> now, whats the apt-get for firefox?
[05:34] <buz> apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[05:36] <MIK3MAN> buz: thanks, do you know if that puts it in the Kmenu?
[05:36] <ValheruLord> when trying to grub-install hda The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly wtf is this?
[05:45] <Chris_Tucker> my shipit cds just came in ^_^
[05:46] <Chris_Tucker> im about to get all the packages needed and plant them on a cd for KDE install
[05:56] <karmabutcher> i'm running ubuntu hoary with kde installed and I would like to add the kubuntu repository but I can't find it where is it?
[05:56] <crimsun> see the topic
[05:56] <YellowSock> Hi all. Would you recommend Kubuntu or Ubuntu or SuSE?
[05:57] <YellowSock> Why
[05:57] <karmabutcher> crimsun, which part?
[05:57] <crimsun> karmabutcher: the last?
[05:57] <karmabutcher> crimsun, I've read the kubuntu wiki and several other places but no info
[05:57] <karmabutcher> crimsun, thanks i'll have a Look
[05:57] <crimsun> you know, the part that screams "KDE 3.4.1 http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-341.php"
[05:58] <crimsun> YellowSock: try them all.
[05:58] <YellowSock> i have suse, but its kinda borin.. 
[05:58] <YellowSock> i wonder if im gonna like kubuntu or wanna switch back to suse
[05:58] <crimsun> obviously I can't tell you if you'll like Kubuntu
[05:58] <YellowSock> mm.. have u tried suse?
[05:59] <crimsun> not since the 6.0 days
[05:59] <karmabutcher> crimsun, thank you that should update my kde version to the newest one and do I need another repository too for other kubuntu files?
[05:59] <YellowSock> crimsun, wow. thats pretty old!!! umm... does kubuntu do rpms? and samba?
[05:59] <karmabutcher> for example qt-config and other kde files are missing in ubuntu
[06:00] <crimsun> karmabutcher: see the other part of the topic if you want updated KOffice
[06:00] <karmabutcher> crimsun, thanks, and is there a central kubuntu repository?
[06:01] <crimsun> YellowSock: Kubuntu uses Debian as its base, so it uses debs. Via the alien tool, it can use RPMs, but they're not recommended. Always stick to official Kubuntu debs.
[06:01] <crimsun> YellowSock: and yes, Kubuntu has Samba.
[06:01] <YellowSock> oui. 
[06:01] <crimsun> karmabutcher: yes, it's the same as the Ubuntu repository.
[06:02] <karmabutcher> crimsun, i must have my sources file misconfigured then ;_;
[06:02] <crimsun> more than likely.
[06:02] <karmabutcher> crimsun, thank you
[06:03] <YellowSock> wudda u gys think of pclinuxos??
[06:15] <karmabutcher> is there a master list of ubuntu repositories because the ubuntu guide lists us mirrors and those have had problems
[06:23] <[Relic] > dual boot ->  unable to install grub to (hd0) fatal error;  hd0 is the win boot disk, hd1 is the main kubuntu install so I am assuming it must go there, but not sure what to do to get it there
[06:23] <[Relic] > thought I saw something about map? on some page but can't remember where or how to run it
[06:36] <[Relic] > I am wondering if I should have switched the boot marker to the primary linux partition, but not sure on that, I can't seem to find any info on it
[06:58] <_otep> what do i do if i only have 70K free on my / partition
[07:02] <akrus> hello
[07:02] <akrus> can someone help me with fglrx?
[07:02] <akrus> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENOMEM"
[07:03] <akrus> i get this error
[07:16] <ztonzy> apokryphos: hellp
[07:16] <ztonzy> -p +o
[07:17] <apokryphos> ztonzy: hey
[07:18] <ztonzy> mm, icecream, magnum classic snacksize :)
[07:19] <apokryphos> hehe, nice ;-)
[07:19] <ztonzy> indeed
[07:19] <ztonzy> too bad that was the last magnum in my freezer
[07:20] <ztonzy> too much candy ;)
[07:21] <_StarScream> at the risk of sounding queere has anyone seen those ice-screams "gay-time"....no i'm being serious.
[07:21] <apokryphos> whatevayourflava
[07:21] <apokryphos> _StarScream: no; they sound a little disturbing though
[07:21] <ztonzy> no I haven't
[07:21] <_StarScream> apokryphos: well see the thing is they are quite tastey and were originally started before gay = homosexual. 
[07:22] <nikkia> hmmmm
[07:32] <apokryphos> _StarScream: Yah. The more disturbing part is the "gay-time"; has a sneaking resemblance to "milk-time".. where all the ickle kids sit on the carpet while teacher tells a story :|
[07:32] <apokryphos> nikkia: hey :)
[07:32] <_StarScream> hahah
[07:33] <nikkia> well, i've really messed that up :/
[07:33] <nikkia> apokryphos: i can't get access to my kde wallet :(
[07:33] <apokryphos> how come?
[07:33] <_StarScream> anyone use a PPC with kubuntu and breezy
[07:34] <nikkia> i told it not to display a systray icon, cos it was annoying me
[07:34] <nikkia> now i can't get to it anywhere :/
[07:34] <apokryphos> kcontrol?
[07:34] <nikkia> apokryphos: no sign of it in kcontrol
[07:34] <apokryphos> nikkia: Security & Privacy -> KDE Wallet
[07:34] <nikkia> i've tried dcop, but 'dcop kded kwallet reconfigure' doesn't bring up a dialog
[07:35] <nikkia> apok, not there, here
[07:35] <apokryphos> confused... you can get the systray to display from kcontrol
[07:35] <nikkia> apokryphos: its probably in kdeaddons, which i haven't compiled yet :P
[07:36] <apokryphos> ah
[07:37] <apokryphos> hm, no, it should be in kdelibs
[07:38] <nikkia> apokryphos: the kcontrol applet for it ?
[07:38] <apokryphos> nikkia: Sure.
[07:38] <nikkia> kdewallet* is in kdelibs, but i'm not sure about the kcontrol stuff for it
[07:38] <apokryphos> why shouldn't it be?
[07:38] <nikkia> apokryphos: because kde can be weird like that sometimes :)
[07:39] <apokryphos> kdelibs-data holds all kcontrol stuff
[07:41] <VincentMX> i have created a dutch kubuntu channel (#kubuntu-nl). how do i get people on it? i've heard about registering at some kubuntu team or something
[07:42] <apokryphos> VincentMX: person to speak to is probably Riddell 
[07:43] <VincentMX> ok
[07:43] <apokryphos> nikkia: any idea if I could use the rename command to delete, say, the first 10 characters of loads of files?
[07:43] <apokryphos> Might be doable in krename, but i can't figure it out.
[07:44] <insanekane> apokryphos: im sure it is doable in krename ... its in the docs as an example iirc
[07:44] <insanekane> docs == help
[07:44] <apokryphos> heh, ok -- checking that now. Thanks insanekane 
[07:44] <insanekane> apokryphos: iirc, it uses python list slice like syntax
[07:45] <insanekane> apokryphos: check if it's really there; then you can decide whether to thank or beat up :)
[07:45] <nikkia> apokryphos: sure
[07:46] <apokryphos> insanekane: gah, I'll need to compile from source. .deb package seems to not have the documentation
[07:46] <apokryphos> ah, they have PDF on their site
[07:47] <apokryphos> err, they don't have it in html -- odd.
[07:47] <nikkia> apokryphos:  just tell it to replace ^*whatever the syntax for 10 '.'s is  with ""
[07:48] <Riddell> VincentMX: hi
[07:48] <VincentMX> hi
[07:50] <apokryphos> nikkia: if only I knew the syntax for it :P
[07:50] <apokryphos> I should brush up on my bash
[07:50] <nikkia> apokryphos: ^..........  would do at a pinch
[07:51] <nikkia> apokryphos: you *probably* want to make sure that the filename pattern ensures nothing with less than 10 characters in the filename is renamed too :P
[07:51] <apokryphos> nah; it'll be for all things in a folder, so no problems there
[07:52] <nikkia> apokryphos: there's nothing with <=10 character filenames?
[07:52] <apokryphos> ah; so does a . act as a "?" -- single unknown character
[07:52] <nikkia> because rename's going to try to rename any that don't have more than 10 characters to "" :)
[07:52] <apokryphos> nikkia: in this folder, no.
[07:52] <nikkia> apokryphos: actually, ? might be what you want
[07:52] <apokryphos> ah, ok. One sec.
[07:52] <nikkia> i can never remember which is 'any character' and which is 'any character, or no character'
[07:53] <nikkia> i need to brush up my regex again, i can feel it slipping away
[07:57] <apokryphos> nikkia: so something like rename s/????// ./*  
[07:58] <apokryphos> nikkia: don't think that would work, would it? Wouldn't you have to specify which characters, or does it automatically take the first few? And would it automatically leave all other characters?
[08:00] <NetSKaVeN> hell-o!
[08:01] <nikkia> apokryphos: that's why i said you wanted ^ in the regex
[08:01] <nikkia> as ^ should match the start of the string
[08:03] <nikkia> looks like .{10} won't work, because the bound insists on them all being the same character as the first .
[08:03] <nikkia> ^..........  works tho
[08:04] <nikkia> well, works with sed, doesn't work with rename
[08:04] <apokryphos> ah
[08:04] <apokryphos> krename has the perfect option for this... hah, how did I miss it
[08:04] <ztonzy> there's isn't any "shippit" Kubuntu disks ?
[08:05] <apokryphos> ztonzy: nope, not yet at least
[08:05] <Riddell> ztonzy: sadly not
[08:05] <ztonzy> Riddell: :(
[08:06] <ztonzy> Riddell: in meantime I have ordered 10 cds from Ubuntu
[08:09] <apokryphos> ztonzy: are you going to use all those? ;-)
[08:14] <ztonzy> apokryphos: no but to give away
[08:14] <wincide> Riddell:hi again!,  take this letter  just for the topic , Espaol indeed Espanol :) thx 
[08:15] <apokryphos> wincide: you can change the topic, too ;-)
[08:15] <wincide> ? ok
[08:15] <wincide> i'll change then :)
[08:16] <apokryphos> cool
[08:16] <wincide> kubuntu community is growing !, nice :D
[08:16] <apokryphos> =)
[08:21] <ztonzy> apokryphos: hmm...again...how do I know how I got kde 3.4.1 ?
[08:21] <apokryphos> ztonzy: kde-config --prefix
[08:22] <ztonzy> hmm no
[08:22] <apokryphos> gah, heh, same mistake as last time
[08:22] <apokryphos> kde-config --version
[08:23] <ztonzy> Qt: 3.3.3 / KDE: 3.4.1 / kde-config: 1.0  :)
[08:23] <ztonzy> anything to update ?
[08:23] <apokryphos> nope; 3.4.1 is latest
[08:24] <PieD> (qt 3.3.4 is available, but the upgrade is usually useless...)
[08:25] <ztonzy> ## Marillat <-- that repositry...workfull ?  last time I used it got error
[08:26] <apokryphos> It's recommended that you don't use it; Multiverse/Universe/Backports seem to cover everything though, so you should be fine with just those
[08:27] <ztonzy> I do have those too...I remove the marillat then
[08:31] <simonbp> Hi! I'm new to kubuntu and irc. I just did my first install of Kubuntu. It was very nice. Just to try things out, I'd like to ask how one installs cdrdao the kunbuntu way. It doesn't seem to be availabel in Kynaptic
[08:31] <simonbp> and it didn't come pre-installed
[08:32] <simonbp> also tried apt-get install cdrdao and it couldn't find it. Normally i'd just add something to my sources.list. That doesn't seem very 'kubuntu' though.
[08:33] <jpowers> simonbp: that's what I did
. What needs to be added?
[08:34] <jpowers> in fact, if you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, you'll see that there are repositories commented out that you can uncomment to get access to most things.
[08:35] <jpowers> simonbp: nothing needs to be added, I don't think.  Just uncomment the source that contains the universe repository.
[08:35] <jpatrick> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[08:35] <jpatrick> ^^that
[08:35] <jpowers> yeah, what jpatrick said
[08:35] <jpowers> :\
[08:35] <simonbp> Well, whaddaya know! Thanks. You've all been most helpful!
[08:35] <jpatrick> :D
[08:41] <Slipaway172> ubuntu rules all
[08:42] <ztonzy> heh
[08:42] <ztonzy> what was that ?
[08:43] <ztonzy> kidgames... 
[08:56] <Ghete1> is there something like ksnapshot (in that it has great command line support) that i can use in windows?
[09:11] <Sturmkind> hello
[09:17] <boobeek> hi
[09:26] <[Relic] > Anyone awake?  :)
[09:27] <TestMAD> i am
[09:27] <TestMAD> im always awake
[09:27] <[Relic] > I tried finding info on dual boot, and I have kubuntu installed, but the grub program doesn't show windows as a boot option
[09:28] <TestMAD> what version of windows?
[09:28] <[Relic] > now I need to figure out if it is possible or if I really bothced things completely
[09:28] <[Relic] > win98se fat32, all the data is there and accessible with this, just not a way to boot into it
[09:29] <TestMAD> was it installed before or after kubuntu?
[09:29] <[Relic] > yes
[09:29] <TestMAD> well..wich one was it?
[09:29] <[Relic] > but the only way I could get past the grub install error, was make the linux partition the boot
[09:29] <TestMAD> hmm..
[09:29] <[Relic] > installed before linux
[09:30] <TestMAD> what install error did you get?
[09:30] <[Relic] > unable to install grub in (hd0) fatal error
[09:30] <TestMAD> !grub
[09:30] <ubotu> grub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[09:34] <[Relic] > that explains what grub is but doesn't really give me a clue to what I need to do
[09:47] <error403> is it just me having compatibility issues, or is Xine MUCH superior to gstreamer?
[09:55] <Kejk_PL> error403: xine is different to gstreamer
[09:55] <Kejk_PL> I find mplayer best player :)
[09:55] <error403> im not on about players... just engines...
[09:55] <error403> im using amarok
[09:55] <error403> and on the gstreamer engine, audio playback is really screwed up
[09:55] <error403> like, crackles and stuff
[09:55] <error403> but
[09:55] <error403> on Xine, works fine...
[09:55] <Kejk_PL> error403: oh, sorry, :)
[09:55] <simonbp> Anyone know where I can go to get a driver for an HP PSC1350xi all-in-one? A few drivers for similar models come with kubuntu, but not for my exact model. They work,but not satisfactorily.
[09:56] <Kejk_PL> error403: gstreamer have problems with crossfading
[09:56] <error403> simonbp, bitch and moan till HP until they make their own?
[09:56] <Kejk_PL> simonbp: linuxprinting.org
[09:57] <error403> s/till/to
[09:57] <simonbp> I'm on it :p
[09:57] <error403> Kejk_PL, i turned crossfading off
[09:58] <nikkia_> grrrr
[09:59] <nikkia> why is java so fickle about UTF-8 ?
[10:03] <ztonzy> hmm
[10:03] <nikkia> i don't even think its that unreasonable to expect a .java file to be compiled to the same .class file on different environments
[10:03] <ztonzy> is ubuntuforum down ?
[10:03] <nikkia> obviously, thats why sun never offered me a job :P
[10:13] <error403> erm, is msttcorefonts broken package?
[10:14] <error403> me screams obscenities at nikkia 
[10:14] <error403> erm...
[10:14] <error403> anyway...
[10:14] <error403> please, warn people before you scream
[10:15] <error403> some of us have sensitive hearing (we never get out in the "real world"
[10:15] <nikkia> error403: witness the idiocy of sun:
[10:15] <nikkia> http://pastebin.com/320501
[10:15] <error403> nikkia, i already have...
[10:15] <nikkia> oops, hold on, i'll put the actual code in there
[10:16] <nikkia> http://pastebin.com/320504
[10:16] <error403> nikkia, apart from the fact i have NEVER developed in Java, sure...
[10:16] <nikkia> there, silly, isn't it ?
[10:16] <nikkia> error, the point is, the constant string in the code, is interpreted differently at compile time based on the environment
[10:16] <_StarScream> anyone running breezy here?
[10:19] <simonbp> I've got a USB scanner and am running Hoary Hedgehog. Kooka isn't seeing it. How do I get it up and running, in general terms?
[10:19] <error403> nikkia, i see what you mean...
[10:20] <fjleon> hey guys, i cant type  on konsole
[10:20] <_StarScream> simonbp: does dmesg pick up the device?
[10:20] <fjleon> i can type them everywhere else
[10:20] <fjleon> can anyone help me?
[10:20] <error403> fjleon, why do you need to?
[10:20] <nikkia> error403: i couldn't understand why i was getting strange exceptions from my code, after switching from kubuntu to LFS
[10:20] <fjleon> error403: using nano and such
[10:21] <nikkia> error403: then i realised, they were all array bounds issues with strings, and i checked, sure enough i'd set my locale to non-UTF-8
[10:21] <fjleon> error403: if i can use them on a real tty console, i could use them too on a x console
[10:21] <nikkia> then i also realised, that it didn't make a fig of difference at *runtime* only at compile time
[10:22] <error403> lol
[10:22] <nikkia> fjleon: check your 'encoding' setting in the menu
[10:22] <fjleon> nikkia: i set it to iso-8859-1
[10:22] <nikkia> fjleon: default *should* be UTF-8 on kubuntu
[10:22] <nikkia> fjleon: there you go then, that's why
[10:22] <fjleon> i tried utf 8
[10:22] <fjleon> everything
[10:22] <fjleon> i tried linux console... or xfree 4.x mode
[10:22] <simonbp> I'm pretty sure. The trick is that it's an HP all-in-one job. The printer is picked up for sure, not sure about the scanner.
[10:22] <fjleon> i have done every combination
[10:22] <nikkia> fjleon: set it to utf-8, save settings as default... restart konsole
[10:23] <error403> fjleon, use something like xterm instead?  personally, i find Konsole way too feature-loaded, considering its a terminal emulator...
[10:23] <fjleon> error403: no way, i love the tabs
[10:23] <error403> hehe
[10:23] <nikkia> error403: *shrug* depends what you want, i couldn't live with 20 xterms on screen anymore :)
[10:23] <error403> nikkia, why you need that many?
[10:23] <nikkia> error403: usually doing several things at once
[10:24] <error403> nikkia, me too, but i can usually do it all with 2-3 xterms
[10:24] <nikkia> and before you suggest 'screen', it means sacrificing a key :P
[10:24] <fjleon> nikkia: i did what you said and doesn't work
[10:24] <nikkia> fjleon: strange
[10:24] <_StarScream> simonbp: unplug it, then plug it in again, and type dmesg
[10:24] <_StarScream> then paste the output to a pastebing
[10:24] <_StarScream> bin*
[10:24] <fjleon> nikkia: i had to dpkg-reconfigure locales in order to add my iso 8859-1 locales. i also left turned on the utf ones
[10:25] <fjleon> at least i could get accents to work on openoffice and kde as a whole
[10:25] <nikkia> fjleon: its possible you've changed your default locale somehow
[10:25] <fjleon> just not in konsole or xterm or whatever
[10:26] <fjleon> nikkia: i tried this before changing anything... on every distro that defaults to utf 8 i have had this same problem
[10:27] <Wizzard> hi there, does anybody know some repository where can I find KMplayer?
[10:27] <fjleon> Wizzard: use kaffeine
[10:27] <Wizzard> I want KMplayer
[10:27] <error403> lol
[10:28] <Wizzard> Kaffeine is good too
[10:28] <fjleon> i think kmplayer is discontinued and obsolete
[10:28] <Wizzard> absolete???
[10:29] <fjleon> hmm i was wrong, it is still active
[10:29] <fjleon> was inactive for a long time
[10:29] <Kejk_PL> pure mplayer (with gui or not) is the best
[10:29] <[Relic] > how does one edit the grub partition info?
[10:29] <Wizzard> but it is not at the official Ubuntu repositories
[10:29] <Kejk_PL> kaffeine hangs very oft
[10:29] <Wizzard> mplayer is not a KDE app
[10:30] <fjleon> go to http://www.xs4all.nl/~jjvrieze/download.html
[10:30] <fjleon> and download the debs
[10:30] <fjleon> then dpkg -i *.deb
[10:30] <Wizzard> thx much... so it is not at the repos
[10:30] <Kejk_PL> and stay is system, even after quit command it take 50 % of processor - probebly bug
[10:31] <Wizzard> yes, Kaffeine hangs after shutdown
[10:43] <supernix>  Hey just curious does anyone here use recertified drives ?
[10:45] <nikkia> i'd take that as a 'no' if i were you
[10:46] <supernix> LOL definately
[10:46] <supernix> that or just nobody wants to talk to me
[10:46] <supernix> Just saw those prices and they were so cheap so I said hmmm what about that 
[10:47] <zecrazytux> can anybody send me his sources.list please ?
[10:47] <nikkia> well, 'recertified' is a less ugly way of saying 'reconditioned', which is a less ugly way of saying 'returned as broken, fiddled with, and might work again'
[10:47] <mats> zecrazytux: run apt-setup . Then you get a new list
[10:47] <mats> ;)
[10:48] <zecrazytux> lol
[10:48] <zecrazytux> thx
[10:48] <supernix> nikkia: I see didn't know how thorough they were about fixing those suckers
[10:49] <nikkia> supernix: depends on the company i guess
[10:49] <nikkia> supernix: if apple are involved 'not very' :)
[10:49] <nikkia> as i've had 2 apple 'reconditioned' machines that were DOA
[10:49] <othernoob> hey where can i find a list of supported hardware?
[10:50] <supernix> LOL so apple still sucks
[10:50] <othernoob> i mean, supported by default..
[10:50] <nikkia> supernix: this was a few years ago, so i dunno about 'still'
[10:50] <nikkia> supernix: one was a biege G3, the other a iMac
[10:50] <supernix> I am trying to find the best yet cheapest computer for a friend
[10:51] <supernix> I would like to find something that could run Linux or Windows well
[10:51] <nikkia> there are machines that run windows well ? :)
[10:52] <supernix> Mine always ran Windows great and Linux even better
[11:01] <supernix> anyone know which Athlon is the fastest now ?
[11:02] <PieD> supernix: the Athlon with the biggest number is the fastest :)
[11:02] <supernix> just curious I saw one that said sempron so didn't know if that was the latest greatest Athlon
[11:03] <PieD> sempron ??
[11:03] <PieD> sempron are the celeron@AMD :)
[11:04] <PieD> AMD Opteron are the fastest
[11:04] <PieD> but they cost a lot...
[11:04] <PieD> Sempron << Athlon 64 < Athlon 64FX < Opteron
[11:04] <PieD> (I don't include the dual core...)
[11:05] <mdipi> hey all
[11:06] <mdipi> i edited my boot config file, so that OS X would be my defualt boot 
[11:06] <mdipi> but now yaboot doesnt come up at all
[11:06] <mdipi> anyone think they can help me out here?
[11:12] <[Relic] > how can you edit a read only file that has root as an owner?
[11:13] <mdipi> erm good question
[11:13] <mdipi> so am i pretty much fucked here?
[11:20] <_StarScream> mdipi: sudo?
[11:20] <jatos3> hi everyone
[11:21] <boobeek> hy
[11:23] <jatos3> what clients are ppl here using to get on IRC
[11:23] <jatos3> I am using irssi
[11:24] <mats> irssi-text ;)
[11:24] <jatos3> yeah I am using the text version
[11:24] <jatos3> are there any half decent console file managers?
[11:25] <jatos3> I just wondering, because thats the type of thing I would find useful when I couldn't be bothered to load KDE
[11:25] <mdipi> _StarScream: that didnt come to mind, thanks, i still cant figure out the letters before the drive number though :/ I need to see the partition table somehow
[11:25] <_StarScream> macfdisk
[11:25] <jatos3> wheres the best place to get that
[11:26] <jatos3> oh and one other thing I would like, a something like ark for the console
[11:26] <jatos3> is macfdisk in the repos's?
[11:26] <Kejk_PL> jatos3: mc
[11:27] <jatos3> sorry to keep asking laods of questions, how I do switch console sessions in console
[11:28] <LuNaTiK^GuY> You guys have simply NO IDEA what i just did ;)
[11:28] <jatos3> oh?
[11:28] <jatos3> what did you jsut do?
[11:28] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i resigned from my student summer job to have more time to play with linux
[11:29] <jatos3> I know linux is good by resigning from your job just to play with it?
[11:29] <LuNaTiK^GuY> its just a 2 month job anyway
[11:29] <jatos3> ah
[11:30] <jatos3> if wasn't for the fact WINE doesn't run much more than notepad I would probably rairly touch windows
[11:30] <jatos3> kubuntu is just so cool
[11:30] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i needed more time.........i'm doing the Cisco CCNA course....i need to start learning C, and i'm learning some linux stuff
[11:30] <LuNaTiK^GuY> sooo
[11:30] <LuNaTiK^GuY> out goes my job ;)
[11:30] <jatos3> which is more that can be said for any distro running gnome (I am a bit biast here_
[11:30] <jatos3> ah
[11:30] <LuNaTiK^GuY> and i need to spend more time at the beach :)
[11:31] <mdipi> _StarScream, can i just use fdisk?
[11:31] <jatos3> how much does a CCNA cost?
[11:31] <_StarScream> mdipi: don't think so
[11:31] <jatos3> is there such a thing as fdisk on linux? thought that was just DOS
[11:31] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i'm from Malta....and through University student conditions i got it at Lm240
[11:31] <mdipi> _StarScream : any clue where i can get macfdisk? since its not installed by defualt and its not on FINK
[11:31] <_StarScream> mdipi: oh are you on Osx, i thought you were on kubuntu
[11:32] <_StarScream> if your using osx, just use the installer cd
[11:32] <jatos3> if hes on OS-X then why s he in a kubuntu room to get help?
[11:32] <_StarScream> shrug
[11:32] <mdipi> jatos3 : because my yaboot doesnt show up anymore
[11:32] <jatos3> lol
[11:32] <jatos3> kk
[11:33] <mdipi> jatos3: so i need to find a way to mount my kubuntu partition so i can edit the conf file
[11:33] <_StarScream> mdipi: ah, load the kubuntu install cd, then use another term
[11:33] <_StarScream> and chroot
[11:33] <LuNaTiK^GuY> anyone ever used kdevelop3 ?
[11:33] <jatos3> mount /dev/???? /folder
[11:33] <jatos3> something liek that
[11:33] <_StarScream> LuNaTiK^GuY: yeh i really like it
[11:33] <mdipi> _StarScream, i'll try that
[11:33] <LuNaTiK^GuY> _StarScream: i've got some serious trouble...can u help?
[11:33] <jatos3> is your hard drive the kubuntu secondary or primary, slave or master?
[11:34] <_StarScream> LuNaTiK^GuY: don't ask to ask..just ask
[11:34] <mdipi> jatos3: isnt there something besides dev, i rmember some letters that i cant seem to rmember now before the number of the partition, thats why i need the partition table
[11:34] <jatos3> yeah
[11:34] <LuNaTiK^GuY> _StarScream: i opened the ready made Hello World program in C....and just tried to run it...but i'm getting errors
[11:34] <jatos3> is your hd on the secondary or primary IDE lead
[11:34] <jatos3> and is it set to secondary or master
[11:34] <jatos3> then I can tell whether is hda1 or hdb1 etc...
[11:35] <_StarScream> LuNaTiK^GuY: i am assuming you compiled it?
[11:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> aclocal / aclocal: configure.in: 8: macro / `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library / make: *** [all]  Error 1
[11:35] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i cliked the execute program button
[11:35] <jatos3> I wouldn't though that the hello world program could run error free.
[11:36] <jatos3> compile it first LuNaTiK^GuY 
[11:36] <mdipi> jatos3: i only have one drive, so i take it master, since its a daul boot
[11:36] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i get the same error with "compile file"
[11:37] <jatos3> and is the kubuntu first, second, third etc on the partition table
[11:37] <mdipi> 5th
[11:37] <LuNaTiK^GuY> jatos3: i get the same error with "compile file"
[11:38] <mdipi> jatos3: my swap is 4th and OS X is 3rd
[11:38] <jatos3> mdipi: the command is: mount /dev/hda5 /<folder to mount to>
[11:38] <jatos3> right I am not sure whats wrong there
[11:38] <jatos3> I am a (free)basic guy
[11:39] <mdipi> jatos3: mount: /dev/hda5/: unknown special file or file system.
[11:39] <mdipi> ugh thats a bitch
[11:39] <jatos3> are
[11:39] <mdipi> jatos3, thanks anyway, i might try to see if i can run the live cd and do somethign from there
[11:40] <LuNaTiK^GuY> it says "there is no makefile in this directory, and no configure script for this project. run automake and friends?" i say yes...and then those erros come up
[11:40] <jatos3> try /dev/hdb5, /dev/hdd5 and /deb/hdc5
[11:40] <mdipi> okay
[11:40] <jatos3> */dev/hdc5
[11:40] <jatos3> ok
[11:40] <mdipi> jatos3: same error
[11:41] <jatos3> on all of those ones?
[11:41] <mdipi> jatos3: yeah :(
[11:41] <jatos3> dammit
[11:41] <jatos3> try changing the numbers
[11:41] <mdipi> iight
[11:42] <jatos3> actually try mount /dev/loop0 /mount-folder
[11:42] <jatos3> you will prolly find that mounts all your drives in whatever the mount folder is
[11:43] <mdipi> gah nothin
[11:43] <mdipi> im gonna just wipe the partition
[11:43] <mdipi> i think
[11:43] <jatos3> right, in which case its time to make use of Google...
[11:44] <mdipi> yeah lol, i tried it earlier and thats why i came here
[11:44] <jatos3> oh!
[11:44] <jatos3> then I am kinda stuck as to what todo
[11:45] <mdipi> yeah i dont really have anything important
[11:45] <mdipi> so im gonna nuke the shit outta it
[11:45] <jatos3> kk
[11:45] <jatos3> lol
[11:45] <jatos3> anyway know any good lin games?
[11:45] <mdipi> :/ nope
[11:45] <jatos3> preferrable ones in the debian sarge repos
[11:46] <jatos3> me not been the most authodox person I have added the debian sarge repos to my kubuntu sources.list
[11:46] <jatos3> amazingly with no problems... well apart from the fact that frozen bubble opened in kate when loaded from KDE menu
[11:47] <jatos3> so whats everyone doing on saturday
[11:47] <jatos3> just to strike up some konversation here
[11:48] <jatos3> and no that wasn't a typo...
[11:48] <simonbp> I never plan that far in advance.
[11:48] <jatos3> lol ;-)
[11:49] <jatos3> when I am 18 my staturday nights will probably consists of multiple nights on the town
[11:49] <jatos3> only year (exactly from this day as it so happens) till I am 18
[11:50] <simonbp> Happy birthday.
[11:50] <jatos3> thanks
[11:51] <jatos3> I was just curious to see there if anyone would spot its my birthday from that comment
[11:51] <jatos3> some people (usually a but like me if I am honest) who miss obvious things like that
[11:51] <jatos3> *bit like me
[11:52] <jatos3> me's tired goodbye
[11:56] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i installed kwin-baghira from the repos.....how do i apply the theme
[11:56] <LuNaTiK^GuY> its not in control centre
[12:01] <nikkia> oh, /var/lib, of course
[12:02] <LuNaTiK^GuY> i need some little help plzzzzz