[12:02] :D === Kibou [~kib@dsl-082-083-230-194.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:08] ac/dc rocks [12:08] im gonna have to cut this song up and make it the login sound [12:09] of course they do :) [12:09] i'm more into Metallica though AHAAH === othernoob [~othernoob@p54A2FCB5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:10] nah.. [12:10] metallica..lost intrest long time ago..rather listen to bon jovi instead [12:10] lol. [12:11] lost interest? [12:11] for what reason? [12:12] dunoo.. [12:12] st anger isnt too bad tho. [12:12] thats a goodie === _jose [~jose@201.243.202.210] has joined #kubuntu [12:13] erm [12:13] guess im into a little different stuff now..ill listen to old korn, rage, pantera,, [12:13] st anger is their worst :!!! [12:13] feh, there's been some great rock/metal this year, too much to worry about has-beens like metallica :P [12:13] hey nikkia!!! [12:13] nikkia: exaclty [12:13] has-beens??? [12:13] <_jose> hi [12:13] wots that supposed to mean! [12:13] the 2005 albums by vai, dream theater, robert plant, etc [12:14] oh come on [12:14] <_jose> can somebody help me installing nvidia drivers? [12:14] <_jose> a link or something? [12:14] !nvidia [12:14] it has been said that nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto [12:14] <_jose> thanks! [12:14] np [12:14] i love that bot. [12:14] its very usefull [12:15] and funny too :) [12:15] fortune fame [12:15] mirror pane [12:15] gone insane [12:15] but the memory remainsss [12:15] :) [12:15] LuNaTiK^GuY: the bottom line is, when someone considers st anger good, you KNOW you're not going to get anywhere discussing quality rock/metal with them :P === marsh [~marsh@82.45.11.66] has joined #kubuntu [12:16] hehe [12:16] try it [12:16] LuNaTiK^GuY: even ignoring the terrible musicianship, and lousy 3rd rate lyrics, it made rush's vapour trails look well engineered [12:16] i didnt consider st.anger good ...its their worst [12:16] but hey [12:16] black album is imoortal [12:16] ride the lightning is immortal [12:16] rush is decent..band with the most talent ever assembled..too bad they didnt use it [12:16] load and reload are great [12:17] LuNaTiK^GuY: no, MoP and JFA were the best [12:17] JFA ok :) [12:17] naaaah [12:17] we dnot agree here [12:17] sorry! :) [12:17] pantera rulz all [12:18] LuNaTiK^GuY: btw, ever heard dream theater's cover of master of puppets ? [12:18] no not really [12:18] (they covered the entire album) [12:18] wow [12:18] is it ay good? [12:19] they also released a complete cover of iron maiden's 'number of the beast' [12:19] IM :) woww [12:19] those are kings ;) [12:19] anyone listen to the system of a down cd..mezmerize? [12:19] LuNaTiK^GuY: yeah, altho LaBrie's vocals don't quite fit on a handful of lines [12:20] u know [12:20] when metallica is on stage [12:20] they dont just say "hey this is metallica" [12:20] they say "this is metallicAAAA" [12:20] lol [12:20] LuNaTiK^GuY: itym 'metallic-ah' [12:21] 'and we're-ah here-ah, to make-ah, you rock-ah' [12:21] what is the band known to give the best concerts of all time? [12:21] testmad, pink floyd [12:21] nope [12:21] believe it or not..queen [12:21] yeah i should think so [12:21] yet [12:21] testmad, queen's concerts were so-so, nothing in comparision to the experience that is a floyd concert [12:21] i drool at S&M :) [12:22] i woulda thaought kiss. [12:22] i mean, yes, mercury had stage presence, but pink floyd was an experience [12:22] Rock in Rio series ;) [12:22] yea..on 2 hits of blotter [12:22] hehe [12:22] all awesome [12:22] testmad, clearly, you've never been to one [12:22] there are lots of bands who had great experiences [12:22] ..uhh..before my time [12:22] testmad, i've seen them twice, and some of it cannot be adequately described in words, and i never took ANY drugs at them === markrian [~Markrian@82-68-11-182.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [12:23] ive only been to the laser light show..thats all [12:23] arguably phish is one such band, as were the dead, the allmans, jimi hendrix exp, zep, etc. [12:23] crimsun: zep were always hit and miss, depended on how out-of-his-head page was :P [12:23] i went to a clapton concert once. [12:23] and it was horrible.. [12:24] I'm trying to get a network up and runnning at home, I've configured all the cards, but they cant ping each other. I'm using a crossover cable. [12:24] the guy could barely sit up in his chair and play [12:24] crimsun: even hendrix, as stoned as he'd be, was never as bad as a fully loaded page playing 'all the wrong notes' [12:24] I'd give anything to have seen byrd play [12:24] bird, sorry [12:24] could it be my firewall? and if so - I can't find any ubuntu help on it :o? [12:25] or is firestarter the way forward? [12:25] try a different cable [12:25] that man played better coked out of his mind than most guys can ever hope to [12:25] Testmad - is there any way to test this one? [12:25] pink floyd is awesome tho [12:25] I only got 1 [12:26] uh..try hooking it up to another pc [12:26] testmad, even the pre-show stuff at a floyd concert is usually mind blowing [12:26] TestMAD: - good plan - but due to financial difficulties I only have the 2 :( [12:26] my first place to look would be the cable tho..after it would be software [12:27] testmad, first time i saw them, i saw some people ducking when the dive bomber flew overhead near the end of the pre-show :P [12:27] nikkia - aggreed -did you go to the live8? [12:27] you might be able to find a cheap ethernet canle at walmart. [12:27] like 10$ for 10ft [12:27] marsh, no, couldn't get tickets, but that wasn't a true floyd concert in the 'full experience' sense anyway, i really hope they tour again [12:27] nikkia - first time I saw them it was a pig that made them duck! === golan [~golan@85.116.138.113] has joined #kubuntu [12:28] marsh, the dive bomber was pure audio effect, the 'model' dive bomber didn't come out until mid-show :) [12:28] with a huge set of bollox [12:28] marsh, people were literally ducking to avoid a surround sound recording of a plane :P [12:28] gwar concerts are fun [12:28] Oh yeah - that was momentary pre-concert stuff, no? [12:28] yeah [12:28] nikkia - I've seen it.... [12:28] ur all lucky to live in places where concerts are easy to reach :( [12:28] if you ever goto a gwar concert..make sure you can throw away the clothes you wear. [12:28] as for me.....no [12:29] LuNaTiK^GuY: I've only once travelled less than 150 miles to see a concert... [12:29] and that was to see van halen [12:29] post or pre roth? [12:29] jumpin' about all over the place? [12:29] ohhh [12:29] testmad, post roth, the right here, right now, tour [12:30] ah..haggar..eck [12:30] i'm off to sleeep [12:30] i prefer the roth days [12:30] heh [12:30] testmad, it was ok, i didn't have a time machine to make roth rejoin :P [12:30] besides, roth is terrible these days [12:30] Metallicaaa...damn rite! [12:30] i wish i woulda went to the tour that they did together [12:30] skyscraper was alright, but after that, it degenerated into 'lounge songs' :P [12:30] nikkia - metallica? or underworld? [12:31] marsh? [12:31] or van halen [12:31] ? [12:31] marsh, DLR [12:31] skyscraper [12:31] after he 'quit' van halen, skyscraper was alright, then it just went downhill [12:31] Hehehe... [12:31] I think the loony has a point... [12:32] time to hit the sack... :( [12:32] yea..he had some messed up vids tho [12:32] long day ahead tomorrow, and poor weather... === mchonis [~mchonis@pool-71-104-145-138.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:32] and some of that makeup was a bit dodgy too... [12:32] thanks fr the help guys. [12:32] marsh, you're not supposed to eat it [12:33] take care, [12:33] hi all [12:33] nikkia: Hehehe... [12:33] wanna talk makeup...david bowie [12:33] g'night [12:33] nite [12:33] I need help with my external hard drive [12:33] usb? [12:33] ya [12:33] it used to work [12:33] and now it doesn [12:33] it still works with my windows machine tho [12:33] what did you change? [12:34] I hit the "update" button in kynaptic [12:34] so alot [12:34] ah, you likely got a new kernel [12:34] umm, i don't know, really [12:35] what does dmesg tell you when you plug it in? [12:35] nada [12:35] it doesnt detect it [12:35] weird [12:36] check if ohci_hcd, uhci_hcd, or ehci_hcd is loaded [12:36] with lsmod [12:36] ok.. i'm a total newb.. what? [12:36] and then try another usb port [12:36] well, you know what dmesg is :) [12:36] usb is weird, sometimes ports 'just stop working' [12:36] /sbin/lsmod [12:36] yeah, try what nikkia suggested... [12:36] and sometimes they'll 'just stop working' with a specific device [12:37] changed ports.. still nothing [12:37] hmm [12:38] type /sbin/lsmod at a console and see if one of the *hci_hcd is listed [12:38] i know what it might be :/ [12:38] oh, also check for usb_storage === __Ace__ [~love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu [12:38] there's that 'new' 'fast' usb-storage driver, that is optimised for flash keys [12:38] if it gets loaded, or installed in such a way to become the default usb-storage provider, it doesn't support usb HDDs === _StarScream [~am@81-178-226-73.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:39] hmm [12:39] i have a usb drive that works great with the latest kernel [12:39] i think the .10 kernel update included it, and my ipod stopped being recognised, i can't remember what i had to change to make it recognised again tho [12:39] 2.6.13-rc3 [12:40] How can I get libalsa_out for alsaplayer? === smux [~smux@home.mescaline.fr] has joined #Kubuntu [12:40] i might have had to blacklist the 'fast' driver with hotplug, can't remember [12:40] Minuo, apt-cache search libalsa [12:40] (i guess...) [12:41] I get libalsaplayer0 and libalsaplayer-dev, both of w hich are installed [12:41] hmm [12:41] unless maybe its in the wrong directory [12:41] no... [12:41] what do you need that for? [12:41] libalsa_out, that is [12:41] I just want to switch over to dmix from arts for multi-source audio [12:41] testing alsaplayer with dmix [12:42] hmm [12:42] it doesn't seem to be cooperating with me [12:42] dunno, my sound has always just worked [12:42] arts never works right for me [12:42] especailly playing videos, there is always a delay on the sound [12:42] never with arts [12:43] err [12:43] never with dmix/alsa, always with arts [12:43] <_StarScream> anyone here knows they definately use a caching name server? [12:45] and y is that when im watching vids in kaffiene..that when i click a different spot on the progress bar..that theres like a 2-3 second pause.. === tenshiKur0 [~tenshiKur@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === |rockinnerd| [~chris@adsl-69-212-158-188.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:53] Minuo: because the default arts setup buffers audio [12:53] and alsa will be buffering audio also, as will dmix, so you end up with a chain of enough audio buffering to create an audible delay [12:53] Minuo: you can minimise it by changing the buffer size for arts in kcontrol [12:54] nikkia: Ok, thanks, I'll give that a try === _markus [~markus@ACB5063C.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu === vito [~vito@smtp.quanta.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu === markrian [~Markrian@82-68-11-182.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [01:13] hi every1, how do I find out what version of vncserver I'm running.. can any1 help me ? === pajohn [~pajohn@pcp0010985117pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === troglodyt [~user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu === von_stork [~quem@85.138.26.21] has joined #kubuntu [01:33] hey guys [01:34] i need some help with kubuntu... === emuflame [~emuflame@198.30.138.170] has joined #kubuntu [01:34] is there anyone avaiable to help me === troglodyt [~user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu === pajohn [~pajohn@68.55.54.34] has joined #kubuntu [01:43] i just burned a data dvd on my windoze comp, then i put it into my kubuntu comp, and i'm having problems [01:43] with the permissions === ^wotan^ [~wotan@213.60.65.157] has joined #kubuntu [01:43] i have to be root in order to view/execute the files [01:44] any ideas? === ^wotan^ [~wotan@213.60.65.157] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === chavo [~chavo@4.sub-70-213-125.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:44] i added uid=1000 to fstab [01:44] still no luck [01:45] i did chmod 555 /media/cdrom0 [01:45] but it seems that the dvd has its own permissions [01:47] can you access other dvd? [01:48] what do you mean? i can access other dvd's (movies for example) [01:48] no problem [01:48] but it seems that this dvd already has preset permissions === emuflame [~emuflame@zt-198-30-138-170.eos.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:50] no ideas? [01:51] can you actually access it but not the files on it or the dvd itself? [01:51] i can't even view the contents [01:51] unless it's as root === othernoob [~othernoob@p54A2FCB5.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu [] === golanx [~golan@85.116.138.113] has joined #kubuntu [02:00] hrm, could someone point me in the right direction for setting up alsa it seems not to see my soundcard even tho the proper module is loaded :( [02:03] from what i know [02:03] go to control center [02:03] sound and multimedia [02:03] sound system [02:03] hardware [02:03] select the audio device: autodetect [02:03] b/c some cards won't work with alsa === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu === moua [david@men75-2-82-66-50-159.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === kevogod [~kevogod@68-115-7-181.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:28] pajohn: heh gave me /dev/dsp doesnt exist :( === ismael [~ismael@201.240.53.137] has joined #kubuntu [02:31] emuflame: what chipset? [02:31] evil atiixp garbage [02:31] on my laptop [02:31] are you using alsa-source from universe? [02:32] negative, i just installed this fresh [02:32] perhaps that is my problem? === ismael [~ismael@201.240.53.137] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:32] there's your issue. [02:32] !tell emuflame about alsa-source [02:32] select the atiixp driver [02:32] (not the atiixpm driver) [02:34] yeah ok, ive blacklisted the atiixpm driver [02:34] but alsa-source is what id need [02:36] ok [02:37] in that tell should i be replacing alsa-driver with the name of the alsa driver i need or just take that verbatim? [02:37] up to you [02:38] haha ok [02:41] well [02:41] i guess verbatim wasnt good === kinix [~kinix@98.Red-80-39-171.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === wincide [~trax@83.33.168.30] has joined #kubuntu === troglodyt [~user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu === darkmatter [~darkmatte@206-163-250-45.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #kubuntu === darkmatter [~darkmatte@206-163-250-45.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === troglodyt [~user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu === yasser [~yasser@59.93.163.88] has joined #kubuntu === yasser is now known as coolblue === yasser [~yasser@59.93.163.88] has joined #kubuntu === yasser [~yasser@59.93.163.88] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.220] has joined #kubuntu === knoppix [~knoppix@c-24-5-165-133.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #Kubuntu === _root [~root@ppp7-adsl02-208.the.forthnet.gr] has joined #kubuntu === coolblue [~yasser@59.93.163.88] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === dutch [~dutch@cpe-065-190-182-028.nc.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === _root is now known as Nickos [03:08] hello everybody === Heart_2 [~jzdgc@p549C36F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [03:12] does anyone knows what version of kde the breezy badger will have? [03:13] 3.4.1 [03:13] ok... thanks [03:14] maybe i add it to my sources.list :) [03:17] crimsun: kde 3.4.2 will be out in a week or so, so I guess it will have 3.4.2 [03:17] that is better... === glenn [~glenn@106.149.202.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:17] hussam: I can't predict what isn't already out ;) [03:18] the guys are pretty fast [03:18] i wish 4.0 would be out [03:18] but more than likely..3.5 at the most for breezy === alakhia [~alakhia@69.107.51.14] has joined #kubuntu [03:19] crimsun: I'm actually hoping they backport kde 3.4.2 to hoary like kde 3.4.1 [03:19] I'm guessing they will [03:19] debian is still shipping with 3.2 (to the stable release) [03:20] TestMAD: I doubt 3.5 will be out by breezy [03:20] crimsun: you mean the backport? [03:21] Linux + KDE 3.4.1 = better than any mswindows version [03:22] I wish i could do some (easy) transcoding to my DVDs [03:22] Nickos: heck Linux + any window manager is better than Microsoft Windows [03:23] right [03:23] maybe k3b give the solution for ever === slicslak [~slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:23] to transcoding i mean === bjoeern [~bjoeen@dsl-084-060-098-090.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:28] hi [03:29] hi === __Ace__ [~love@130.235.186.240] has joined #kubuntu [03:29] how to install wireless lan under kubuntu? [03:29] with the KWIFIMANAGER [03:30] where to enter essid etc>? [03:30] hussam: I mean 3.4.2 to Hoary [03:33] any1? [03:33] sorry... i don't have wireless so i don't have experience [03:33] had a question about a movie player ... [03:34] ? [03:34] i use mplayer but need something for my wife to use ... that is easy! :) [03:34] any ideas? [03:34] kaffene (sp?) makes it hard to fast forward and rewind [03:34] crimsun: well hopefully. I'd love to see 3.4.2 in hoary. [03:34] why? do you mean mplayer is hard to use it? [03:35] hussam: it won't be in hoary but will be backported like 3.4.1. [03:35] well, a prompt isn't very user friendly for my wife ... [03:35] prompt? [03:36] i like how dvd menus work in kaffene [03:36] hrm [03:36] what are you talking bout? [03:36] command prompt [03:36] crimsun: that's what I meant. It fixes a kicker crash I am having in kde 3.4.1 [03:36] sorry ... i mean shell [03:36] mplayer have a gui... [03:36] hmmm, ok thanks [03:38] hrm === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === JayParadise [~james@24.211.50.39] has joined #kubuntu === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [03:43] i have to reboot to my new KDE... compilation is finished.. bye everyone === cartel_ [~cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #kubuntu [03:45] hi all [03:45] where can i get helix-player 1.0.5? there is a security vuln in < that version [03:46] and the ver in ubuntu cant play rtsp streams === emuflame [~emuflame@zt-198-30-138-170.eos.net] has joined #kubuntu === ep [~ep@ip68-97-122-98.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === _glenn [~glenn@68.202.149.106] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax9-116.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [04:09] What's up with Firefox, Is there still a problem? [04:23] I'm still running Firefox version 1.02. The update I did a few days ago, updated Firefox. This update susposedly had probems. The updates I've done since have not mentioned a Firefox patch, I figured they would. [04:30] What version of Firefox is in the backports or has it been removed? === mikec [~mikec@22.caba8.xdsl.nauticom.net] has joined #kubuntu === pussfeller [~todd@t1-rtc-woodlawn.rtcol.com] has joined #kubuntu === evwr [~evwr@r02epwb66.desktop.umr.edu] has joined #kubuntu === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu === evwr [~evwr@r02epwb66.desktop.umr.edu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Chris_Tucker [~ChrisTuck@stjhnf01-23-142163031226.nf.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [04:55] im having trouble watching a dvd in kaffeine, its a fresh isntall on a reasonably fast machine [04:56] "the source cant be read" [04:56] "maybe you dont have enough rights for this, or source doesnt contain data" [04:56] have you installed the necessary libs? [04:56] the dvd is in the drive and accessable from the desktop automount icon [04:57] mm no... didnt know there were any extra needed [04:57] what ones do i need? [05:04] what libs do i need? [05:06] wiki/RestrictedFormats [05:07] ok thanks === MarcC-away [~Marc@24-53-224-115.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:13] bleh "no legal way in most countries" .. i think some industries are being bias there... it should be legal, you bought a dvd drive, it came with software, but the software wasnt compatable with linux, why shouldnt you be allowed to use it in linux legally? [05:13] because linux has to use libdvdcss [05:14] Chris_Tucker: no, the licenses are specifically for Windows [05:14] but screw it, i don't give a shit about that [05:14] Chris_Tucker: and we all know that Windows != Linux [05:14] i am aware o [05:14] f this [05:14] so we legally are not allowed to [05:14] the dvd drive doesn't come with a license [05:15] any software does, though [05:15] it's inane, yes, but that's how it is. [05:15] (last time i checked) [05:15] you mean insane? [05:15] no, inane [05:15] (i know, inane is a word) [05:15] i think insane is a better way to put it, but meh [05:15] six of one kind or half a dozen [05:16] well, still [05:16] if you get a dvd drive but don't install any software, you didn't agree to anything [05:16] or you shouldn't have, anyway [05:20] thanks guys [05:20] i now am watching a dvd :D [05:23] im really likeing this... before i was running ubuntu on my 400mhz celery here, then i tried it on my amd duron 2000+, and its running so nice i think ima switch the way i have stuff set up and go linux mainly on the amd and use this thing for my simple windows stuff [05:23] did the same thing here...from celeron to desktop PC after I got it how I wanted it. [05:24] its 1 am here i have to work in 9 hrs but im hooked [05:25] hmm [05:25] it's 1am? what time zone are you in? === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp198-41.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:25] NST - newfoundland [05:25] that big island on the east coast [05:26] ah [05:26] yeah, that explains it === ubuntu [~ubuntu@201.248.138.99] has joined #kubuntu [05:26] you don't have that stupid daylight savings time either, right? [05:26] i'm on the east coast of the US [05:26] no we have that [05:26] oh [05:26] you're two time zones over, then? [05:26] hello [05:26] hello [05:26] i guess [05:27] what time is it over there, precisely [05:27] ? [05:27] 12:56am [05:27] Mon Jul 25 00:57:08 2005 [05:27] hm. 12 hours exactly [05:27] Mon Jul 25 12:57:42 CST 2005 [05:27] hmm [05:27] im watching the matrix on my newly installed linux, how suiting ^_^ [05:28] 00:57? [05:28] oh, you're in one of those half-hour-shifted zones [05:28] 23:28 here [05:28] oh, in the second matrix movie, trinity uses nmap to hack the power plant [05:29] yep [05:29] i noticed that the first time i saw it [05:29] i hit pause.. framed back [05:29] i saw it on the nmap website [05:29] and studied it [05:29] yeah, it's 'real' hacking, not the stupid 3D and fancy graphics crap you see in other movies [05:30] yep [05:30] they really thought the matrix stuff through well [05:30] hackers comes to mind [05:30] yeah... [05:30] its ALL real or possible [05:30] johnnie nmeonic [05:31] well, obviously there are some movie twists [05:31] like the car chase [05:31] 1) if the agent can jump on a car and totally destroy it, why didn't he do it to trinity's car? [05:32] wanted them alive [05:32] to get the access codes to zion [05:32]