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| carlos | morning | 10:24 |
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| sivang | morning carlos | 11:39 |
| carlos | sivang, morning | 11:39 |
| sivang | carlos: whats' the new days brings for launchpad development ? | 11:40 |
| carlos | ? | 11:41 |
| dilys | New Malone bug 1564 filed on The Launchpad by Carlos Perello Marin: Cache problems with SQLObject | 11:52 |
| dilys | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1564 | 11:52 |
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| === cprov waves morning all | ||
| jordi | hi | 01:42 |
| daf | oi | 01:42 |
| carlos | jordi! | 01:49 |
| jordi | hi carlos | 01:50 |
| carlos | jordi, dude, finally, I have a table in my house so you can come to have dinner when you want :-) | 01:51 |
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| jordi | carlos: yay. | 01:53 |
| jordi | have you visited IKEA? | 01:53 |
| carlos | jordi, my sister | 01:54 |
| jordi | nice | 01:55 |
| jordi | -rw------- 1 jordi jordi 790M 2005-07-25 13:02 Mail/caughtspam | 01:55 |
| jordi | hmm. no wonder it took a while to open | 01:56 |
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| carlos | jordi, :-D | 01:56 |
| jordi | hi sabdfl | 01:57 |
| sabdfl | hey jordi | 01:57 |
| sabdfl | carlos: are we near 1.0 yet? | 01:57 |
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| jordi | Hmm, is the 1.0 release announcement going to be translated as the Matar release notes? | 01:58 |
| carlos | sabdfl, the import process is stalled, I'm waiting for stub to know where the problem is, but I think we would send it as soon as we check that production update scheduled for today does not breaks anything | 01:58 |
| jordi | if so, I guess I can use access to the draft to translate it. | 01:58 |
| carlos | sabdfl, as I suspect that the problem is with our sendmail queue | 01:59 |
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| carlos | sabdfl, is stub around? | 01:59 |
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| dilys | Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial] Moved poparser warnings to the logging system (patch-2161: carlos.perello@canonical.com) | 02:07 |
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| dilys | New Malone bug 1566 filed on Rosetta by Carlos Perello Marin: Duplicated msgids and wrong exports prevents some .mo exports | 02:18 |
| dilys | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1566 | 02:18 |
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| carlos | see you later | 02:22 |
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| kiko_ | thanks for filing that bug carlos | 02:32 |
| kiko_ | I was going to go crazy about it | 02:32 |
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| SteveA_ | hi | 02:40 |
| jamesh | carlos: approved your rosetta-karma branch. | 02:40 |
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| bradb | morning | 03:25 |
| bradb | SteveA_: might you have some time to look at the IBugTaskSet.search refactoring patch this morning? | 03:33 |
| SteveA_ | bradb: yes | 03:39 |
| bradb | cool, thanks | 03:39 |
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| dilys | New Malone bug 1569 filed on The Launchpad by Brad Bollenbach: makepagetest.py raises an exception preventing me from creating a test for the BugTaskAssigneeWidget | 04:37 |
| dilys | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1569 | 04:37 |
| jblack | Morning guys | 04:43 |
| carlos | jamesh, cool, thanks | 04:46 |
| carlos | stub, around? | 04:46 |
| carlos | jblack, morning | 05:02 |
| bradb | BjornT: in your Bug 1555 report, I see: | 05:03 |
| bradb | From: =?utf-8?q?Bj=C3=B6rn_Tillenius_via_Malone_=3C1555=40bugs=2Elaunchpad?=@bugzilla.warthogs.hbd.com, | 05:03 |
| bradb | =?utf-8?b?LnVidW50dS5jb20+?=@bugzilla.warthogs.hbd.com | 05:03 |
| bradb | Any idea what that's about? | 05:04 |
| BjornT | bradb: yes, i've already fixed it. even CC:ed you when i fixed it. | 05:06 |
| dilys | Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/dists--devel--0: [trivial] production-1.26 config (patch-101: stuart.bishop@canonical.com) | 05:06 |
| bradb | BjornT: cool, thanks | 05:07 |
| daf | SteveA_: hi | 05:20 |
| stub | carlos: yo | 05:27 |
| carlos | stub, hi | 05:29 |
| carlos | stub, could you check what happens on production that poimport seems to be stalled? | 05:29 |
| stub | eh? | 05:29 |
| carlos | stub, I don't get emails from it and the sql query that you send me to know the amount of .po imports pending does not changes since Sturday | 05:29 |
| carlos | stub, the rosetta-poimport script | 05:30 |
| stub | could you check what happens on production that poimport seems to be stalled? <== does not parse | 05:30 |
| daf | >>> de_carlos(_) | 05:31 |
| daf | "poimport seems to be stalled on production, could you check what's causing it?" | 05:31 |
| carlos | stub, hmm, could be, that kind of expression is valid in Spanish :-D | 05:31 |
| stub | oh... | 05:31 |
| carlos | at least people understand me, sorry | 05:31 |
| carlos | daf, thanks | 05:32 |
| daf | :) | 05:32 |
| daf | carlos speaks English, he just sometimes does it in a different order to the rest of us | 05:32 |
| carlos | yeah, that part is a bit difficult for me, the order change... | 05:33 |
| stub | it has been running for around 80 hours, and is happily chewing up 99% CPU | 05:33 |
| daf | yay | 05:33 |
| carlos | hmm | 05:33 |
| stub | Shall I kill it so you can check its logs? | 05:33 |
| carlos | stub, could be it a problem with the sendmail queue? we are using it a lot | 05:33 |
| carlos | stub, it sent about 1700 emails before getting stalled | 05:34 |
| carlos | not sure if it's related but as you had some problems with the sendmail queue and had to change the way it works.... | 05:35 |
| stub | I can't check that - needs elmo unless you are logging stuff anywhere | 05:35 |
| === stub should tee the output to a file | ||
| stub | Shall I kill it? | 05:35 |
| carlos | stub, yeah, please, kill it. That way I can see the output and guess if it's a problem or it's normal | 05:36 |
| dilys | Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: fix spurious pofile creation [r=stevea] (patch-2162: mark.shuttleworth@canonical.com) | 05:36 |
| stub | killed | 05:37 |
| carlos | stub, thanks | 05:37 |
| carlos | stub, another question | 05:37 |
| carlos | stub, do you have scheduled gina run on production already? | 05:37 |
| carlos | stub, martin needs language packs as soon as possible and I need ubuntu imported into launchpad to do that | 05:38 |
| carlos | I can implement a workaround for that, but I prefer if we do it the right way | 05:38 |
| stub | Nope - not scheduled. A version of Gina that should be runnable will be landing today though. I suspect Kinnison and Mark will want it to be run | 05:38 |
| carlos | Kinnison, sabdfl: Could I assume that gina will be executed on production later today? | 05:39 |
| Kinnison | carlos: no | 06:01 |
| carlos | Kinnison, when will you know if it will be executed? | 06:02 |
| Kinnison | We've not discussed it yet | 06:03 |
| Kinnison | Currently we can't publish what we import | 06:03 |
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| carlos | ok, then I will execute plan B | 06:04 |
| carlos | Kinnison, thanks | 06:04 |
| sabdfl | carlos: that landing was for you | 06:13 |
| sabdfl | you know the problem where looking at a pofile creates it? | 06:13 |
| sabdfl | it's fixed by that landing | 06:13 |
| carlos | sabdfl, yeah! | 06:13 |
| carlos | cool | 06:13 |
| carlos | I thought you landed it already and daf and I got confused because the code was still creating it | 06:13 |
| carlos | sabdfl, thank you! | 06:14 |
| sabdfl | carlos: you're welcome | 06:14 |
| daf | cool! | 06:14 |
| sabdfl | there's a general pattern in there that i would like you guys to look at | 06:14 |
| sabdfl | first, for content object Foo we have a DummyFoo in the same file | 06:14 |
| daf | that means I can take another look at #1024 | 06:14 |
| sabdfl | it's also registered in zcml/foo.zcml | 06:14 |
| sabdfl | ok so far? | 06:15 |
| daf | yup | 06:15 |
| daf | presumably implementing IFoo | 06:15 |
| carlos | yeah | 06:15 |
| sabdfl | daf: yes, but not necessarily completely | 06:16 |
| sabdfl | then in browser/traversers.py you have a little magic | 06:16 |
| carlos | daf, fixing 1024 would be really good | 06:16 |
| sabdfl | user = getUtility(ILaunchBag).user | 06:17 |
| sabdfl | if request.method in ['GET', 'HEAD'] : | 06:17 |
| sabdfl | return potemplate.getPOFileOrDummy(name, owner=user) | 06:17 |
| sabdfl | elif request.method == 'POST': | 06:17 |
| sabdfl | return potemplate.getOrCreatePOFile(name, owner=user) | 06:17 |
| sabdfl | this is slightly evil, but SteveA_ concurs it's the best way to handle this | 06:17 |
| sabdfl | essentially, when we are traversing as a GET, or HEAD, we traverse onto the DummyFoo | 06:17 |
| sabdfl | (if we don't have a real one) | 06:17 |
| sabdfl | but when we are traversing for a POST, we create the Foo if we don't have it | 06:18 |
| sabdfl | this fits with the idea that you should only INSERT or UPDATE on a POST, a GET or HEAD should always be read-only (SELECT) | 06:18 |
| sabdfl | make sense? | 06:18 |
| daf | yep | 06:19 |
| sabdfl | carlos, daf: i think the POMsgSetView implementation could be much simpler, using this pattern | 06:19 |
| sabdfl | essentially, it's doing the same thing: show a blank (Dummy) if we don't have one on read, and create it if we don't have one on write | 06:19 |
| daf | yeah, I think the pattern is sound | 06:20 |
| carlos | yeah, that way we create the objects only when are needed | 06:21 |
| daf | laziness is good | 06:21 |
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| bradb | BjornT: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1235 appears to be fixed. Is it? | 07:05 |
| bradb | SteveA_: Any news on the IBugTaskSet.search refactoring review? | 07:06 |
| SteveA_ | carlos, sabdfl, daf: the "testing the type of request in the traverser" hack will appear in the navigation stuff (although i haven't worked out exactly how yet) | 07:07 |
| SteveA_ | bradb: not yet. busy speccing. | 07:07 |
| bradb | ok | 07:07 |
| dilys | Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/dists--devel--0: [trivial] production-1.26 config (patch-102: stuart.bishop@canonical.com) | 07:28 |
| bradb | BjornT: What's your reviewer availability looking like? I was wondering if you might have a chance to review my BugTaskAssigeeWidget branch today(ish)? | 07:40 |
| bradb | or salgado? | 07:40 |
| salgado | bradb, don't count on me for reviews this week. I'll probably won't have time for them because of the sprint | 07:43 |
| bradb | ok, i'll put it in BjornT's queue, thanks | 07:44 |
| mpt | http://slashdot.org/cheesyportal.pl | 07:52 |
| mpt | (works best in Netscape 4) | 07:53 |
| dilys | Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--production--1.26: Cherry pick patch-2153 into production (patch-1: scott@canonical.com, rocketfuel@canonical.com) | 07:57 |
| jordi | sorry, just came back home | 08:01 |
| carlos | stub, hi, around? | 08:10 |
| SteveA_ | bradb: ping | 08:14 |
| jordi | My biggest problem right now is that I know little of how Canonical and/or launchpad works internally. I guess it'll take a few weeks. | 08:17 |
| jordi | SteveA_: who will I have to report and ask questions to? You, or daf/carlos? | 08:18 |
| kiko | ME | 08:22 |
| jordi | kiko! | 08:24 |
| jordi | POP THE TRUNK, kiko | 08:24 |
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| kiko | you said | 08:25 |
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| elmo | err, we know the librarian and authserver are down, right? | 08:38 |
| elmo | ah, looks like a production update | 08:39 |
| elmo | stub: it might be nice if 'warn-elmo' was in the update procedure to avoid me panicing when nagios starts whining | 08:39 |
| daf | echo "I'm updating production, kthxbye" | mail elmo@ubuntu.com | 08:42 |
| elmo | 550 User elmo unknown | 08:42 |
| daf | pedant | 08:43 |
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| bradb | SteveA: are bugtask_attrname and query_arg acceptable? | 08:44 |
| SteveA | maybe just attr_name and attr | 08:45 |
| SteveA | if that is clear in the context | 08:45 |
| SteveA | keep them consistent with each other | 08:45 |
| bradb | one is the name of an attribute of an IBugTask, the other is a value passed to the function to filter the results based on the value | 08:46 |
| bradb | so, attr_name and attr, respectively? | 08:46 |
| SteveA | is attr_name and attr clear to you, in that code? | 08:48 |
| jblack | elmo: vyi, vostok's root filesystem is up to 64% used | 08:48 |
| elmo | jblack: yeah, I know | 08:49 |
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| bradb | SteveA: IMHO, not really | 08:52 |
| bradb | SteveA: that's why i suggested bugtask_attrname and query_arg, since those names seem to more clearly describe what their values represent | 08:52 |
| SteveA | i really think they should be related | 08:52 |
| dilys | Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial] fixes to '(Required)' presentation and the translations download form (patch-2163: mpt@canonical.com) | 08:52 |
| SteveA | query_arg is ba | 08:52 |
| SteveA | bad | 08:52 |
| bradb | SteveA: if you want, i'll happily change it to be attr_name and attr, respectively | 08:54 |
| SteveA | because it is just saying what you intend to do with it | 08:55 |
| SteveA | and does not express how it is related to that name | 08:55 |
| SteveA | maybe you can try this | 08:55 |
| SteveA | write a comment above the 'for' loop | 08:55 |
| SteveA | that explains what is done with the name and the object | 08:55 |
| SteveA | and then change the names to make them clearest in that comment. | 08:55 |
| SteveA | bradb: write the comment | 08:55 |
| SteveA | see how it comes out | 08:55 |
| SteveA | you will find some better names like this | 08:56 |
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| SteveA | i think the comment will be good to add anyway | 09:00 |
| bradb | the comment i had was: | 09:00 |
| bradb | # Loop through all the foreign key columns and build WHERE | 09:00 |
| bradb | # clauses for them. Note that each param's name is (not so | 09:00 |
| bradb | # coincidentally) named identically to its corresponding | 09:00 |
| bradb | # database table column. | 09:00 |
| SteveA | you are not looping over foreign key columns, though | 09:02 |
| bradb | right, i'm looping over the names of them | 09:03 |
| SteveA | so, you should use the term "arguments" | 09:03 |
| bradb | true | 09:04 |
| SteveA | if you say "take the arguments to this method that refer to foreign key columns in BugTask..." | 09:05 |
| SteveA | "note that the name of each argument is named the same as its corresponding database column" | 09:05 |
| SteveA | so you have arg_name and arg_value | 09:05 |
| SteveA | i also think | 09:05 |
| SteveA | that you should change the list of kw args into a dict right at the top of the method | 09:05 |
| SteveA | or even into two dicts | 09:06 |
| SteveA | and explain it there | 09:06 |
| SteveA | then the rest of the code gets a bit simpler | 09:06 |
| SteveA | anyway, consider it | 09:06 |
| bradb | sure, i could try that | 09:06 |
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| daf | hmm | 09:12 |
| daf | how do I use unicode strings in psql? | 09:12 |
| lifeless | in what sense ? | 09:13 |
| daf | select foo from bar where foo = 'some string that has weird unicode characters'; | 09:15 |
| lifeless | I don't know if psql is unicode enabled ,,, but try this - ensure your LANG etc are unicode ones, not C. | 09:16 |
| lifeless | then just type. | 09:16 |
| daf | aha | 09:16 |
| daf | no, it does weird stuff if I just type | 09:16 |
| daf | but I can encode it as UTF-8 and then use \x | 09:16 |
| daf | hmm, not sure if that's actually working | 09:18 |
| daf | ah, using \e works | 09:19 |
| daf | carlos: https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/file81d4ky.html | 09:21 |
| carlos | ok, so we have 5 msgids that use it... | 09:22 |
| carlos | daf, so we should be careful when fixing our database | 09:22 |
| daf | yep | 09:22 |
| carlos | daf, the problem is that from time to time, people will add it again | 09:22 |
| dilys | Merge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.5: new build (patch-55) | 09:22 |
| daf | https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/fileD8K41w.html | 09:22 |
| daf | they looks fairly sane | 09:23 |
| === carlos hopes the extra memory arrives on time before I leave to Brazil... 512MB is not a good amount of memory to work on launchpad + evolution + firefox... | ||
| jblack | lifeless: I'm starting work on the bazaar roadmap. Anything you'd like to see in there? | 09:24 |
| lifeless | jblack: roadmap? | 09:24 |
| lifeless | how was the flight back ? | 09:24 |
| jblack | Not bad. Got a solid 5 hours of sleep. :) | 09:24 |
| jblack | The roadmap is a request from the benevolent self-appointed one. How the baz community is getting over to the bzr way of doing things | 09:31 |
| lifeless | jblack: well, I'd like to have some sense of feature-dfference, what features are considered must-haves and what are likely to be dropped. you'll need to talk with mpool and abentley heavily on this | 09:35 |
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| jblack | Yeah. I think that comes along with. :) | 09:38 |
| jblack | Sorry for the latency. I'm trying a a pcmcia equivilant of a cell phone out. so far, its not very impressive. | 09:39 |
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| bradb | SteveA_: I just emailed you with the bit of BugTaskSet.search that I rewrote based on our discussion earlier. | 09:45 |
| lifeless | jblack - I suggest you spend a day or so just using bzr, and get a real feel for it | 09:45 |
| bradb | Could you take a look when you get a chance? | 09:46 |
| lifeless | it will make it much easier to write relevant stuff | 09:46 |
| jblack | Yeah. I plan on doing that. :) | 09:48 |
| carlos | stub, ping | 09:51 |
| SteveA_ | bradb-brb: much better. | 09:56 |
| dilys | New Malone bug 1572 filed on Rosetta by Carlos Perello Marin: Problems with encoding and .po exports when it's not UTF-8 | 10:12 |
| dilys | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1572 | 10:12 |
| daf | carlos: cheers | 10:12 |
| carlos | daf, it took some time as production was down | 10:12 |
| dilys | Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: show distrorelease language stats on distrorelease page [r=stevea] (patch-2164: mark.shuttleworth@canonical.com) | 10:14 |
| bradb | SteveA_: cool, can i merge it? | 10:16 |
| SteveA_ | yes | 10:16 |
| bradb | cheers | 10:17 |
| BjornT | bradb: i won't have time to review your branch today, still have a lot to do before i leave for brazil. i could review it during the trip, though. (i might be able to review it tomorrow morning before i leave) | 10:23 |
| BjornT | bradb: and bug #1235 isn't fixed. it's still possible to go past the last bug and get a system error | 10:24 |
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| bradb | BjornT: re: the review, sure, whenever you have time. no urgent rush. re: the bug, ok, just making sure. | 10:36 |
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| bradb | SteveA_: right now, when my constraint function on IBug.duplicateof returns False, all I see in the form is the rather de-humanized "Constraint not satisfied" error message. Where can I read up on how to display a useful error message when a field's constraint is not met? | 10:40 |
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| SteveA_ | <bradb> SteveA_: right now, when my constraint function on IBug.duplicateof returns False, all I see in the form is the rather de-humanized "Constraint not satisfied" error message. Where can I read up on how to display a useful error message when a field's constraint is not met? | 10:43 |
| SteveA_ | bradb: i'd have to look into it, and i can't here | 10:43 |
| SteveA_ | bradb: save it until you're in brazil | 10:43 |
| bradb | ok | 10:43 |
| daf | hmm | 10:44 |
| daf | which continent is mpt on? | 10:45 |
| jblack | When I left him, the southamerican one | 10:45 |
| daf | aha | 10:46 |
| daf | Brazil-people: where's mpt? | 10:46 |
| salgado | daf, he's probably comming back soon. we had a problem here and everybody got disconnected | 10:47 |
| daf | ok | 10:47 |
| daf | thanks | 10:47 |
| carlos | btw, will we have network at the hotel? | 10:47 |
| salgado | carlos, I don't think so, but the office is 2 blocks from the hotel | 10:48 |
| carlos | ok | 10:49 |
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| daf | aha! | 10:50 |
| daf | mpt: I need some help making a table look non-hideous | 10:51 |
| mpt | daf: <thead> | 10:51 |
| mpt | Now what's your question? | 10:51 |
| daf | hmm | 10:51 |
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| dilys | Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: Rosetta karma support r=stub,jamesh (patch-2165: carlos.perello@canonical.com) | 11:24 |
| daf | carlos: yay! | 11:25 |
| carlos | daf, ;-) | 11:25 |
| carlos | stub, hi, is this patch ok? https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/file2kLFHW.html | 11:30 |
| carlos | stub, I forgot to commit that branch | 11:30 |
| carlos | stub, and the production update broke the imports again | 11:31 |
| stub | carlos: I've fixed those permissions on production. Please commit the patch. | 11:32 |
| carlos | stub, ok | 11:32 |
| carlos | stub, thanks | 11:33 |
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| jblack | Is the mailing list manager broken? | 11:36 |
| Mez | ooh, i like the addition to -bugs :D | 11:36 |
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| Mez | and group calendar! | 11:37 |
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| jblack | elmo: ping | 11:46 |
| Mez | how do you reassign which "project" owns a "package" | 11:49 |
| dilys | Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [r=SteveA] refactor BugTaskSet.search; remove function-defined-within-a-method crack, remove ILaunchBag depedence, improve variable names and comments. (patch-2166: brad.bollenbach@canonical.com) | 11:54 |
| jblack | Mez: Since everyone else seems rather quiet... ;) | 11:56 |
| jblack | mez: presuming that you mean a product rather than a package, I've usually gotten a launchpad admin to do it | 11:56 |
| Mez | ok | 11:59 |
| Mez | hmm | 11:59 |
| Mez | how to remove a branch | 12:01 |
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