[08:09] <Yendor> I'm getting "locale set to CX" messages whenever I try to start a Java GUI program on my Ubuntu Breezy install today...
[08:09] <Yendor> This was all working fine on Friday.
[08:09] <Yendor> Does anyone know of a fix for this?
[08:10] <Yendor> I've googled and found this problem on multiple Linux variants and multiple JVM implementations.
[08:17] <Yendor> Is anyone else even out there?
[08:18] <wasabi> I'm sorta here.
[08:19] <Yendor> Hey
[08:20] <Yendor> Have you ever heard of this issue?
[08:22] <wasabi> No.
[08:23] <Yendor> Bleah.  :(
[08:23] <Yendor> I can't run my IDE or my Database-connecting application.
[08:24] <wasabi> Is your locale set to CX, by chance?
[08:24] <Yendor> laf
[08:24] <Yendor> No.  :)
[08:24] <Yendor> en_US
[09:06] <marcin> hi all
[09:08] <jbailey> Hi Marcin.
[09:09] <marcin> so, my question is what is a status of this project?
[09:09] <marcin> today I found noninstallable package in hoary multiverse 
[09:09] <wasabi> Not sure I understand the question?
[09:09] <wasabi> Status of hte project?
[09:10] <jbailey> Depends which part of the project you mean?
[09:10] <marcin> jde (java development environment for emacs) and this package is noninstallable because there is no Java in ubuntu
[09:10] <jbailey> The Ubuntu Java project is primarily focussed around getting a Free Software implementation into Ubuntu
[09:10] <marcin> (no beanshell package)
[09:11] <marcin> well you got this: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackagingProgress url in topic - while 'This page does not exist yet. '
[09:11] <jbailey> I don't know beanshell at all.
[09:11] <marcin> so, I would like to know how things are going ;)
[09:11] <wasabi> Nobody is working on fixing every package in Multiverse.
[09:12] <wasabi> We're open to help though.
[09:12] <wasabi> The primary focus has been targetting specific demanded applications and doing the related work to get them suitable for main.
[09:12] <wasabi> Currently OpenOffice and Eclipse.
[09:12] <jbailey> Mostly we've (And then, mostly wasabi) been getting the base Free Java stuff in and sane.
[09:12] <wasabi> It will probably continue in that direction until there is other external momentum.
[09:13] <marcin> wasabi, ok so i think that I could work on Eclipse and this jde package
[09:13] <wasabi> Eclipse is in Universe on breezy currently.
[09:13] <wasabi> But there's obviously a TON of work to do with it.
[09:13] <marcin> hmm so I need to switch to breezy...
[09:13] <wasabi> Like, I want eclipse-cdt and all the other plugins packaged.
[09:13] <jbailey> wasabi: Do you have a current TODO list?
[09:14] <wasabi> No. I probably never will either.
[09:14] <wasabi> =)
[09:14] <jbailey> What's the best way to get people to help on the Eclipse package, and presumably form an eclipse packaging team?
[09:14] <jbailey> (We could put out a call for assistance on ubuntu-devel)
[09:14] <marcin> wasabi, and what about JRE or JDK packages? I'm still on hoary so I don't know which java implementation you use to build these Eclipse packages?
[09:15] <wasabi> marcin, we are currently standardized on GCJ 4.
[09:15] <marcin> wasabi, so there is no Sun Java?
[09:15] <wasabi> There isn't.
[09:15] <wasabi> And hopefully there never is. ;)
[09:16] <marcin> wasabi, hmm and what about performance?
[09:16] <wasabi> It's decent.
[09:16] <marcin> wasabi, how fast is Eclipse on gcj?
[09:16] <wasabi> jbailey, I haven't been paying attention for a few weeks. Is breezy frozed?
[09:16] <wasabi> I've been totally out of the loop or awhile.
[09:16] <jbailey> wasabi: Upstream version freeze, not feature freeze.
[09:16] <jbailey> Another 2 weeks until feature freeze.
[09:16] <wasabi> Okay. I guess I should get this one last change for the symlinks up.
[09:16] <wasabi> And leave it like that until post breezy.
[09:16] <jbailey> Still room for packaging cleanup in there.  That's why I need to write that JavaPackagingPolicy soonish.
[09:17] <wasabi> I just don't have time for anything except occassional hacking.
[09:17] <wasabi> And it's going to continue that way for the foreseeable future.
[09:17] <wasabi> And some random at-work IRC chatting.
[09:17] <jbailey> wasabi: Do you have a simple Java/ant package that I can use to base the packaging policy off of?
[09:17] <wasabi> jsch
[09:18] <jbailey> 'kay, thanks.
[09:18] <marcin> hmm this is a question for #ubuntu but sorry
[09:19] <wasabi> I hate to be flakely, but that's just the way my life is right now.
[09:19] <marcin> I'm still on hoary - is breezy installable/usable?
[09:19] <Yendor> Yes, unless you want Java stuff right now.
[09:19] <Yendor> :-P
[09:20] <marcin> ok, so I'll try to dist-upgrade... or hmm maybe I'll use my second hdd first
[09:20] <marcin> anyway I'll have pretty much time in August
[09:22] <marcin> wasabi, and what about compatibility and stability of these gcj based things?
[09:22] <wasabi> What about it?
[09:23] <marcin> wasabi, well, I remember that I had FC3 before ubuntu 
[09:23] <marcin> wasabi, and they had some gcj based apps
[09:24] <marcin> wasabi, ant, and totally unusable tomcat