[12:48] <calc> ugg!
[12:49] <calc> 2.6.12-4 downgraded ipw2200 from 1.0.4 -> 1.0.1 which broke it entirely instead of going to 1.0.6 which probably fixed whatever bugs 1.0.4 had and actually works as well :\
[12:49] <crimsun> err
[12:51] <calc> 11601 wasn't even about ipw2_2_00
[12:51] <calc> it was for ipw2100
[12:51] <calc>   (Closes: #11601, #12417, #10627, #11696)
[12:52] <calc> 12417 is real for ipw2200 but was also fixed in 1.0.5
[12:52] <calc> also note 12417 did cause problems but didn't cause it to completely stop working for me unlike the current 1.0.1
[12:53] <crimsun> so the better option is to upgrade ipw2200 to 1.0.6
[12:54] <crimsun> I haven't checked if that implies we need to update ieee80211, too
[12:54] <calc> 10627 might be fixed in new firmware but can't really tell since it says some WEP fixes
[12:54] <calc> crimsun: yea
[12:55] <calc> crimsun: maybe 1.0.6 refers user to ieee80211.sf.net site
[12:55] <crimsun> probably ipw2100 to 1.1.2 as well
[12:56] <crimsun> yeah, ipw2100 1.1.2 and ipw2200 1.0.6 both need the separate ieee80211 1.0.2
[12:56] <calc> btw 11696 sounds like it might be related to the firmware problem that was fixed in 1.0.5 also
[12:57] <crimsun> so if possible, ieee80211 1.0.3, ipw2100 1.1.2, and ipw2200 1.0.6
[12:57] <crimsun> I really miss my P4 build machines
[12:57] <crimsun> it's gonna be a pain testing on this celeron
[12:59] <calc> do i need to file a bug in bugzilla stating 1.0.1 doesn't work at all for me? :)
[01:00] <calc> i think i have feeling why it doesn't work at all for me too :)
[01:00] <calc> after reading the changelog between 1.0.4 and 1.0.1
[01:01] <calc> it appears among other things doing that completely removed support for WPA
[01:01] <calc> downgrading the driver to support WEP and nuking WPA support is er beyond stupid
[01:02] <calc> WEP can be cracked in an insignificant amount of time, its worse than useless
[01:03] <crimsun> many manufacturers don't even enable WEP by default
[01:03] <calc> of course the usefulness of an insecure protocol may vary by user
[01:04] <calc> hmm didn't know about that
[01:05] <calc> i need to look into upgrading to WPA2, the new bios for my AP supports that too
[01:06] <calc> hmm it seems WPA2 mainly just requires that the hardware do AES
[01:07] <calc> appears WPA2 is just a slightly updated WPA to fully comply with the 802.11i standard
[01:08] <calc> while some older WPA hardware already supported most of it but wasn't required to
[06:06] <fabbione> morning
[06:14] <crimsun> morning, fabbione. I presume you found what you needed?
[06:20] <fabbione> crimsun: yup.. thanks :)
[06:20] <crimsun> great :)
[02:11] <zul> morning
[02:20] <chmj> hi chuck 
[02:21] <zul> hey chmj 
[03:36] <zul> hey jeff
[03:58] <jbailey> Heya Chuck.
[03:58] <jbailey> Glad to have you over last week, thanks for coming.
[04:00] <fabbione> did you 3 meet?
[04:00] <fabbione> jbailey: did you also sign his key?
[04:00] <jbailey> fabbione: I didn't, although I would have.  I've met him more than once.
[04:00] <jbailey> It hadn't come up, sorry.
[04:00] <jbailey> ...
[04:00] <jbailey> 3 ?
[04:00] <jbailey> =)
[04:00] <fabbione> because that would give zul the option to be a MOTU
[04:00] <jbailey> ARE YOU CALLING ME FAT?
[04:00] <fabbione> uh?
[04:00] <jbailey> *g*
[04:00] <fabbione> who said FAT?
[04:01] <jbailey> One of us has to be doubled in order to make 3 of us.
[04:01] <jbailey> And since youv'e never met Chuck, you must mean me. =)
[04:01] <zul> fabbione: willy signed my key long time ago
[04:01] <fabbione> zul: willy isn't an ubuntu devel
[04:02] <zul> doh!
[04:02] <fabbione> even tho i did sign his key
[04:02] <jbailey> fabbione: When did we stop trusting the Debian web of trust?
[04:03] <fabbione> jbailey: i am not sure multihops are valid.. but i definetely trust willy's judgement
[04:03] <fabbione> and i am happy with that
[04:03] <jbailey> =(
[04:04] <fabbione> jbailey: i need to get in touch with the Firewall guy...
[04:04] <fabbione> is he active or MIA?
[04:04] <jbailey> Which Firewall guy?
[04:04] <jbailey> My SoC student?
[04:04] <fabbione> the one you are mentoring...
[04:04] <fabbione> yes
[04:04] <fabbione> is he active?
[04:05] <jbailey> He's active.  carstenh, we were chatting this morning.
[04:05] <fabbione> ah ok
[04:05] <jbailey> on #ubuntu-devel even. =)
[04:05] <zul> stupid ksh
[04:06] <jbailey> zul: Can you join #ubuntu-motu for a sec?