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| Unfrgiven | good morning all | 12:39 |
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| tseng | hi Unfrgiven | 12:39 |
| tseng | can you please do me a favor | 12:40 |
| Unfrgiven | tseng: yeah sure | 12:40 |
| ajmitch | hi Unfrgiven | 12:40 |
| tseng | find the BreezyGoals page and update status for devdocs | 12:41 |
| SloMo_ | tseng: can you look at my wavpack upload in revu? ;) this will give us a gstreamer plugin for wavpack | 12:41 |
| Unfrgiven | tseng: will do :) | 12:41 |
| tseng | ive been getting nags about it | 12:41 |
| tseng | thanks :) | 12:41 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: gday | 12:41 |
| tseng | SloMo_: ok | 12:41 |
| bddebian | Hello Unfrgiven | 12:42 |
| Unfrgiven | ive had a busy couple of weeks... first i was at auckland, then off to brisbane for a friend's wedding and then was quite sick for like a week and a half | 12:42 |
| tseng | SloMo_: reason you are patching ac? | 12:42 |
| tseng | SloMo_: had to retool? | 12:42 |
| Amaranth | I hate users. | 12:42 |
| SloMo_ | tseng: yes... otherwise i have to call autoreconf in rules ;) | 12:42 |
| bddebian | Amaranth: Don't we all? :-) | 12:42 |
| bddebian | Which of course mean I hate myself :-) | 12:43 |
| tseng | SloMo_: yeah its a contained patch. not bad if you had to do it :) | 12:43 |
| Amaranth | "w32codecs isn't illegal! WINE is copying DLLs from Windows! w32codecs is needed, don't tell us we can't talk about it! don't diss ubuntuguide if you don't have a replacement that does the same thing!" | 12:43 |
| tseng | SloMo_: did you build in pbuilder? the build deps look a bit slim | 12:44 |
| SloMo_ | tseng: but this is something for universe i think... licence is bsd-style | 12:44 |
| SloMo_ | tseng: yes it built in breezy pbuilder | 12:44 |
| tseng | yep, definately universe | 12:44 |
| tseng | k | 12:44 |
| bddebian | Amaranth: Take a break from #ubuntu ;-) | 12:44 |
| SloMo_ | tseng: can we have the gst plugin in gst-plugins-multiverse or is it a case for the normal gst-plugins package? | 12:45 |
| Amaranth | bddebian: I'm supposed to be running the channel. :) | 12:45 |
| bddebian | Oh well that wouldnt be good then :-) | 12:45 |
| tseng | SloMo_: it can be in in the multiverse one isnt bad | 12:45 |
| === Amaranth needs to get a CC decision on whether or not discussion of w32codecs should be allowed. | ||
| tseng | SloMo_: we need multiverse for the other ones.. faad and faac | 12:45 |
| tseng | and lame | 12:45 |
| SloMo_ | yes i know... and a -universe package seems overkill just for one plugin ;) | 12:46 |
| tseng | it would be silly to break off and do a universe one too i think | 12:46 |
| tseng | yeah | 12:46 |
| tseng | you are tapped into my brain | 12:46 |
| tseng | packaging looks pretty clean | 12:46 |
| crimsun | Amaranth: it usually helps if you deop yourself. Then people don't pound you with questions. | 12:47 |
| Amaranth | crimsun: The second I do they act like children. :/ | 12:47 |
| crimsun | and don't forget that tritium and I are also present if things get out of hand | 12:47 |
| tseng | anyone who is still in #ubuntu is a champion | 12:48 |
| bddebian | Heh | 12:48 |
| SloMo_ | tseng: why? ;) | 12:48 |
| tseng | becauses its loaded full of clue resistant people | 12:48 |
| === bddebian should be there for NuN but has been busy with MOTUToMerge.. :-( | ||
| tseng | wth is my login | 12:49 |
| tseng | crap | 12:49 |
| bddebian | Damn, 3 shy of 15 packages goal.. | 12:51 |
| tseng | siretart: ping? | 12:51 |
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| tseng | i guess im not commenting on that today | 12:53 |
| tseng | oh there it is | 12:53 |
| tseng | rock out | 12:53 |
| SloMo_ | tseng: you've uploaded pitfdll? is this usefull for something without w32codecs? | 12:54 |
| tseng | done and done | 12:54 |
| tseng | SloMo_: yes, and no | 12:55 |
| tseng | seb really wanted it | 12:55 |
| tseng | and it doesnt directly depend on w32codecs | 12:55 |
| SloMo_ | hmm | 12:55 |
| tseng | its just a loader :) | 12:55 |
| tseng | in the future, fluendo is seeking to legally lisence codecs | 12:56 |
| tseng | to end users | 12:56 |
| tseng | like mp3 and dvd especially | 12:56 |
| tseng | on top of gstreamer | 12:56 |
| SloMo_ | hmm... but this wouldn't allow us to distribute them | 12:56 |
| tseng | not in the current system | 12:56 |
| tseng | but we would definately look at being a distribution channel for them | 12:57 |
| tseng | somehow | 12:57 |
| tseng | we talked about this at UDU, but its still somewhere off in the future | 12:57 |
| tseng | we will see :) | 12:57 |
| SloMo_ | yes... and it would be easier for everybody to use pitfdll this way... now one just has to copy the dlls somewhere and everything works | 12:57 |
| tseng | i would totally pay for good unencumbered dvd support etc | 12:58 |
| tseng | and support fluendo | 12:58 |
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| SloMo_ | yeah that would be fine... even if i don't like the laws which render libdvdcss illegal ;) | 01:03 |
| tseng | even better if they manage great support for wmv/rma | 01:09 |
| tseng | and quicktime | 01:09 |
| tseng | w/o all this encumbered, horribly hackish stuff | 01:10 |
| SloMo_ | yeah... but do you think ms will licence wmv/wma to them? | 01:10 |
| tseng | just plug into my gstreamer :) | 01:10 |
| tseng | if they come up with the cash i dont see why not | 01:10 |
| tseng | they are on a big push to lisence to portable music players | 01:10 |
| tseng | why not linux | 01:10 |
| ajmitch | it might not fit well with their drm plans | 01:10 |
| tseng | eh the plugin can support the drm | 01:11 |
| SloMo_ | and might not fit well with their windows world domination plans ;) | 01:11 |
| tseng | i support drm decoders much more than buying drm music | 01:11 |
| tseng | there is alot of content out there in wmv | 01:12 |
| tseng | hm oops | 01:14 |
| tseng | should have put Arch: in pitfdll to i386 only | 01:14 |
| tseng | it has wine libs | 01:14 |
| SloMo_ | hehe | 01:14 |
| === tseng wonders what happened to evolution-sharp build | ||
| tseng | buildd not up to date or something | 01:16 |
| bddebian | When to buildds run? | 01:16 |
| tseng | wanna-build looks for new packages every 5 minutes iirc | 01:17 |
| tseng | and sends them to the next open buildd | 01:17 |
| tseng | we have an insane ammount of buildd processing power so it usually doesnt take long | 01:17 |
| bddebian | Hmm, I should check on octave then | 01:17 |
| bddebian | Uhm there ain't much on http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/buildlogs/ | 01:19 |
| tseng | oh so thats where that is | 01:19 |
| tseng | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/ is the "real deal" | 01:20 |
| bddebian | Does *-successful.gz mean I'm golden? | 01:22 |
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| tseng | yes | 01:24 |
| tseng | nice work | 01:24 |
| bddebian | kick ass. Thanks tseng | 01:25 |
| tseng | np | 01:25 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: got licq working? | 01:27 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Nope, that's YOUR job :-) | 01:28 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: j/k. I don't know exactly how you fixed the kde-gui thing that gets generated?? | 01:28 |
| ajmitch | simple, the patch gets applied before qt-gui is copied to kde-gui | 01:29 |
| ajmitch | I'll see if I have the patch up.. | 01:29 |
| ajmitch | http://ajmitch.dhis.org/debuild/tmp/licq-1.3.0/debian/patches/45_licq-gcc40-ftbfs.dpatch | 01:31 |
| bddebian | Hmm, how is that different than mine after ripping out the kde-gui part? :'-( | 01:33 |
| ajmitch | mine applied cleanly | 01:34 |
| ajmitch | make sure you start with fresh source, use dpatch-edit-patch | 01:34 |
| ajmitch | and add it to 00list | 01:34 |
| ajmitch | and it works | 01:34 |
| bddebian | I hate you. ;-P | 01:35 |
| lamont | bddebian: <bddebian> Does *-successful.gz mean I'm golden? | 01:39 |
| lamont | no | 01:39 |
| lamont | it means you're probably golden | 01:39 |
| lamont | if debian/rules or your makefile ignores errors, well..... | 01:39 |
| bddebian | Doh | 01:39 |
| tseng | lamont, the bubble-buster | 01:39 |
| bddebian | Well it isn't exaclty "MY" makefiles :-) | 01:39 |
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| bddebian | lamont: So how do I check if it really worked? | 02:58 |
| lamont | bddebian: you read the log file and make sure it did what you wanted it to do. | 02:59 |
| lamont | or you cross your fingers and hope that it's not a crackful makefile | 02:59 |
| bddebian | Heh. OK, thx | 03:00 |
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| bddebian | Anyone have an idea on this one: "make: execvp: ./configure: Permission denied" in a pbuilder? | 04:00 |
| \sh | morning | 04:04 |
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| bddebian | Heya \sh | 04:11 |
| bddebian | \sh: Got a clue on that error above you? | 04:12 |
| \sh | what error? what clue? I just got up after 4 hours of sleep | 04:12 |
| bddebian | Oh, nm :-) | 04:12 |
| \sh | come on tell me .) | 04:13 |
| bddebian | Anyone have an idea on this one: "make: execvp: ./configure: Permission denied" in a pbuilder? | 04:13 |
| bddebian | I get that building oroborus | 04:13 |
| \sh | hmmmm | 04:15 |
| \sh | u tried chmod 755? | 04:15 |
| bddebian | And what is this about renaming yehia prior to building? | 04:15 |
| \sh | the libs must be renamed accordingly to the cxx transition rules | 04:16 |
| bddebian | Ohh, sorry I though you meant the package itself :-) | 04:16 |
| \sh | bddebian: yes that it is the fact ,-) | 04:16 |
| Burgundavia | tseng, thanks for fixing blam | 04:17 |
| tseng | Burgundavia: np | 04:19 |
| bddebian | Boy, how fscking weak am I.. :-( | 04:20 |
| \sh | bddebian: if the buildd is saying: package X is compiled very successfull, why don't u close the bug in bzilla? ,-) | 04:21 |
| \sh | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/o/octave2.1/2.1.71-2ubuntu2/ | 04:21 |
| bddebian | \sh: Can I close bugs? | 04:21 |
| \sh | u rock | 04:21 |
| \sh | bddebian: can't you? didn't u have editbug rights? you should close them as well... | 04:21 |
| \sh | anyways...I did it :) | 04:22 |
| bddebian | I have editbug rights but I didn't know if I could close them :-) | 04:23 |
| bddebian | \sh: BTW, chmod fixed it. How st00pid am I? :'-( | 04:23 |
| bddebian | Oh and lamont says I can't cheer unless I see that it "really" works. And I can't open those damn buildlogs :-( | 04:26 |
| \sh | well..first step: it builds second step: the users are not complaining *lol* | 04:27 |
| bddebian | Hmm | 04:27 |
| \sh | third step: you're always on the wrong side ,-) | 04:27 |
| bddebian | heh | 04:31 |
| ajmitch | users always complain :) | 04:34 |
| bddebian | That's what makes us (l)users :-) | 04:34 |
| bddebian | At least 2 more packages to go... | 04:36 |
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| quad | anyone else having trouble with networking + breezy | 04:39 |
| \sh | pppoe is working here... | 04:40 |
| \sh | and dhcp was working until friday afternoon just before I left the company... | 04:40 |
| sladen | quad: perhaps you could discribe the problem you're seeing | 04:40 |
| quad | \shyeah basically | 04:41 |
| quad | sladen.... it can't get a lease on the ip | 04:41 |
| quad | not sure why | 04:41 |
| quad | or how to describe it | 04:41 |
| quad | sladen: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51242 | 04:41 |
| sladen | try: sudo killall -9 dhclient[tab] | 04:42 |
| quad | someone else had it and fixed it like that | 04:42 |
| sladen | sudo dhclient[tab] eth0 | 04:42 |
| quad | sladen: i tried killing it | 04:42 |
| quad | and restarting | 04:42 |
| quad | \sh: you having the same problem? | 04:45 |
| \sh | quad: no..as I said, i can't try out dhcp after I'm in the company...so that will be after my kdevelop3 build try | 04:46 |
| quad | haha | 04:46 |
| quad | ohh | 04:46 |
| bddebian | \sh: You mean you STILL haven't fixed kdevelop3? | 04:49 |
| === bddebian hides | ||
| \sh | bddebian: riddell had to fix the main kde stuff first...cause of missing libXcursor.la | 04:49 |
| bddebian | Sure sure, make excuses. ;-P | 04:50 |
| \sh | *gg* | 04:50 |
| \sh | but if you want, fix kwaves asm issue on amd64 | 04:50 |
| bddebian | Uhm yeah sure, that's next on my list.. ;-) | 04:51 |
| bddebian | One more package an I may attempt your yehia though, just for a change of pace :-) | 04:51 |
| \sh | bddebian: leave yehia alone I just patched 3 issues in that :) so the last "void" thingie i will get also fixed ,-) | 04:52 |
| bddebian | Gah | 04:52 |
| bddebian | Well then, I guess I'll just keep nailing the "low-hanging fruit" :-) | 04:54 |
| \sh | yay...it's 5 o'clock | 04:54 |
| \sh | in 6 mins | 04:54 |
| \sh | what a nice morning...coffee, music from status quo...and 2 pbuilder running... | 04:57 |
| bddebian | You're a sick d00d \sh :-) | 05:00 |
| \sh | exactly | 05:00 |
| \sh | but I don't care *harhar* | 05:00 |
| \sh | bddebian: update your pbuilder :) | 05:02 |
| \sh | u missed half of the build-deps in terminator-x | 05:02 |
| \sh | and some infos about kde stuff | 05:03 |
| bddebian | \sh: ??? | 05:03 |
| \sh | it looks like to get rid of missing libXcursor.la u have to do the make -f admin/Makefile.common dance | 05:03 |
| \sh | bddebian: libxxf86dga-dev was missing | 05:03 |
| \sh | libjack-dev is not existing..libjack0.80.0-dev is correct | 05:04 |
| \sh | or I'm still sleeping.... | 05:05 |
| bddebian | \sh: It hadlibjack0.100.0 which we don't have. libjack-dev psuedo's libjack0.80.0 doesn't it? | 05:05 |
| comadreja | hey nice to see you're still awake :) | 05:05 |
| \sh | no :) | 05:05 |
| comadreja | I've been sleeping the whole day. | 05:05 |
| \sh | comadreja: lol...awake as in "ghost" ,-) | 05:05 |
| comadreja | :D | 05:06 |
| \sh | bddebian: my pbuilder was saying: libjack-dev is not correct..anyhow..lets see if it builds | 05:06 |
| bddebian | \sh: If I do apt-get install libjack-dev I get libjack0.80.0 | 05:06 |
| crimsun | don't use libjack-dev as a b-d | 05:07 |
| \sh | yeah | 05:07 |
| comadreja | what is a b-d ? | 05:07 |
| \sh | i used libjack0.80.0-dev as build-dep | 05:07 |
| comadreja | I see :) | 05:07 |
| comadreja | me too | 05:07 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Why? | 05:08 |
| \sh | it's a virtual package referencing libjack0.100.0 | 05:08 |
| crimsun | bddebian: you've already seen why. | 05:08 |
| bddebian | \sh: Not in everything I do | 05:08 |
| bddebian | WTF | 05:08 |
| bddebian | crimsun: No I haven't. Using libjack-dev works fine. libjack0.100.0 pukes because we ain't got it. What am I missing here gents? | 05:09 |
| \sh | doesn't matter...I fixed it :) uploaded | 05:09 |
| crimsun | bddebian: it's the way shared libs allowing parallel installs of multiple versions work | 05:10 |
| crimsun | bddebian: you should b-d on the specific version of -dev if you want to also allow other lib versions | 05:10 |
| bddebian | Uhm, can you dumb that answer down for me a little? :-) | 05:10 |
| crimsun | imagine libFooA is parallel-installable with libFooB, but libFoo-dev has multiple targets | 05:11 |
| crimsun | if you want to build against libFooB-dev, you should put libFooB-dev in the B-D | 05:11 |
| \sh | oh no | 05:12 |
| \sh | not again | 05:12 |
| crimsun | (allowing backporting requires another strategy, but that's another story) | 05:12 |
| \sh | clean: configure *grrr* | 05:12 |
| crimsun | timestamp skew? | 05:12 |
| bddebian | crimsun: OK gotcha | 05:12 |
| crimsun | or the infamous autotools screw? | 05:12 |
| \sh | no...those people are configuring the source in the clean target to get make distclean working | 05:13 |
| \sh | nasty shit | 05:13 |
| crimsun | eww | 05:13 |
| \sh | much better...make distclean will trigger ./configure run *shiver* | 05:14 |
| \sh | i won't fix it | 05:14 |
| \sh | too crappy this morning | 05:14 |
| \sh | and this is really interessting | 05:16 |
| \sh | classviewwidget.cpp:1067: error: redefinition of 'void ClassViewWidget::slotCreateAccessMethods()' | 05:16 |
| \sh | classviewwidget.cpp:1053: error: 'void ClassViewWidget::slotCreateAccessMethods()' previously defined here | 05:16 |
| \sh | this error i didn't have before the kde main update *strange* | 05:17 |
| \sh | and I wonder why I always write: Brian DeFreese... | 05:19 |
| \sh | bddebian: please rename yourself *lol* | 05:19 |
| bddebian | Egads, please call me asshole before Brian. That is my brothers name :-) | 05:20 |
| \sh | bddebian: no..really? | 05:20 |
| bddebian | Yes | 05:20 |
| \sh | ah come on u jocking | 05:21 |
| \sh | joking even | 05:21 |
| bddebian | Nope. | 05:21 |
| \sh | my sisters name is stephanie..also not a very nice name :) | 05:21 |
| bddebian | Oh, the name Brian is OK, just my brother that is not. ;-) | 05:21 |
| \sh | lol | 05:22 |
| \sh | oh I'm really mentally ill..."Rick Astley" | 05:22 |
| ajmitch | afternoon all | 05:22 |
| \sh | hey ajmitch | 05:23 |
| tritium | hello ajmitch | 05:23 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 05:23 |
| === ajmitch is glad that the demo of his code went ok today :) | ||
| \sh | congrats | 05:24 |
| ajmitch | coding overnight seems to have paid off ;) | 05:24 |
| bddebian | Heh | 05:24 |
| tritium | nice, ajmitch :) | 05:24 |
| ajmitch | just a number of annoying bugs that had to be squashed | 05:24 |
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| \sh | hmm... | 05:26 |
| === ajmitch sees the pics of vi & emacs on p.d.o :) | ||
| \sh | hmmm.. | 05:29 |
| jsgotangco | cats? | 05:29 |
| \sh | kittens :) | 05:29 |
| \sh | sweet | 05:29 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 05:29 |
| \sh | damn | 05:31 |
| \sh | I have to patch rezound again | 05:31 |
| tritium | bddebian, you sure wouldn't have missed West Lafayette today. It was 97, but the heat index was 115 | 05:33 |
| bddebian | Well it wasn't exaclty cool here either :-) | 05:34 |
| crimsun | you're right. I'm glad I've been at work for most of the day, since it's a balmy 72F. | 05:35 |
| tritium | dang, had to work a Sunday? | 05:35 |
| crimsun | unfortunately. Our team has a presentation to management tomorrow at noon. | 05:36 |
| tritium | Oh, I see. | 05:36 |
| crimsun | "plz justify why we are spending $lots kthx" | 05:37 |
| \sh | patch no. 5 for rezound :( | 05:37 |
| tritium | ah, one of those... | 05:37 |
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| bddebian | Ohh mkfontdir: command not found.. :-( | 05:44 |
| \sh | yes | 05:44 |
| bddebian | yes what? | 05:45 |
| \sh | bddebian: and please leave the version number from MoM...so do a dch -a instead of dch -i | 05:45 |
| bddebian | Oh sure NOW you tell me :-) | 05:46 |
| bddebian | Do I even need to bother with modifying the changelog? | 05:46 |
| \sh | hmm... | 05:46 |
| crimsun | (no) | 05:46 |
| crimsun | (unless something _drastic_ was necessary) | 05:46 |
| bddebian | Oh and what should mkfontdir come from? | 05:46 |
| \sh | xutils | 05:47 |
| bddebian | Ahh, and that's b0rked still? | 05:47 |
| \sh | but we're w8ing for daniels | 05:47 |
| \sh | yes | 05:47 |
| \sh | same applies to xmkmf | 05:47 |
| === bddebian keeps getting little bits of information at a time :-) | ||
| \sh | MoM mentioned versions are not in the archives.... | 05:47 |
| \sh | means, those are the proposed new ubuntu version numbers | 05:48 |
| \sh | if there is a merge from libapt-pkg-perl_0.1.15 <- debian version then our merge is libapt-pkg-perl_0.1.15ubuntu1 <- new ubuntu version not in the archive | 05:49 |
| === bddebian shoots himself | ||
| \sh | bddebian: please write everthing down and put it on a wikipage ;) | 05:49 |
| bddebian | \sh: ?? | 05:49 |
| \sh | bddebian: put it on wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUStartersGuide ,-) | 05:50 |
| \sh | forget it...just joking | 05:50 |
| bddebian | \sh: Actually that is a good idea | 05:51 |
| \sh | I know ;) | 05:53 |
| bddebian | Damn, do broken apps count towards my 15 goal? :-) | 05:54 |
| \sh | ok..last coffee...before i hit the shower | 05:59 |
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| tritium | good night :) | 06:04 |
| \sh | 1 liter of coffee in my system..this isn't a good start for the day | 06:04 |
| \sh | hey tritium good morning | 06:04 |
| tritium | \sh, good morning to you :) | 06:05 |
| bddebian | wb tritium :) | 06:05 |
| tritium | bddebian, thanks, and good night! | 06:05 |
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| \sh | hitting the shower | 06:12 |
| bddebian | Enjoy ;-) | 06:13 |
| \sh | nice... | 06:26 |
| \sh | refreshing | 06:26 |
| bddebian | :-) | 06:26 |
| \sh | and now 30 mins left to go to a bakery and get some food | 06:27 |
| \sh | yeah I fixed rezound | 06:28 |
| crimsun | great :) | 06:28 |
| bddebian | Damn there are still a ton of merges on bugzilla.. :'-( | 06:28 |
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| \sh | bddebian: peanuts | 06:33 |
| bddebian | peanuts? | 06:33 |
| \sh | in germany this is a word for "it's nothing" | 06:34 |
| bddebian | Same in US. Just still think you're crazy :-) | 06:34 |
| bddebian | Especially if I keep doubling your work. ;-P | 06:35 |
| bddebian | OK, time for bed before the wife disowns me. Gnight folks. | 06:42 |
| crimsun | cya | 06:42 |
| \sh | cu bddebian sleep well :) and greetings to your wife ,-) | 06:44 |
| bddebian | Heh, thx | 06:44 |
| Burgundavia | \sh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposalForABetterQAForUbuntu <-- what should I do with this page? | 06:45 |
| \sh | burn it | 06:45 |
| \sh | pls .) | 06:46 |
| Burgundavia | \sh, old stuff we archive | 06:46 |
| \sh | no..I just wanted to delete it... | 06:46 |
| Burgundavia | \sh, we should keep it, if someone wants to refer to it later | 06:47 |
| \sh | ok...keep it then... | 06:47 |
| \sh | but can u mark it as obsolete? | 06:48 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 06:48 |
| Burgundavia | I am going to send a mail to the -devel list explaining the CategoryArchive | 06:48 |
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| \sh | ok..time to leave home ... laters gentlemen | 06:57 |
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| \sh | re | 07:35 |
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| Burgundavia | \sh, the past tense of build, is built. | 09:07 |
| \sh | right | 09:08 |
| \sh | but my grammar is terrible since the beginning ;) | 09:08 |
| Burgundavia | so when you file those one line closers, it would be "built" | 09:09 |
| \sh | Burgundavia: I'll save it into my longtime memory :) | 09:11 |
| Burgundavia | longterm | 09:12 |
| \sh | yes | 09:13 |
| \sh | saved | 09:13 |
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| siretart | morning, motus! | 11:07 |
| comadreja | morning :) | 11:08 |
| siretart | wtf? \sh is uploading stuff since 4:30am?! ROCK!! | 11:12 |
| \sh | sure | 11:14 |
| \sh | and I fixed rezound this morning | 11:15 |
| \sh | and infinity send me to bed | 11:16 |
| \sh | just like my mom in early days ,-) | 11:16 |
| siretart | \sh: you are unbelivable! ROCK!! | 11:16 |
| \sh | siretart: no mental ill is the correct description ,-) | 11:17 |
| jsgotangco | hail \sh the future of MOTU :) | 11:17 |
| \sh | i have to fix kdevelop... | 11:18 |
| siretart | I'd also love to do more motu stuff, but my Studienarbeit has to be finished in exactly 1 week :( | 11:18 |
| \sh | siretart: u and dholbachs prio is university...and finish it... | 11:18 |
| siretart | espc. when I read news like this: http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2005/8428.html (sorry, german) | 11:18 |
| siretart | aye | 11:19 |
| siretart | I think they are 'just' waiting for reviews of their packages for inclusion in universe :( | 11:20 |
| \sh | jesus crap | 11:20 |
| HostingGeek | hey | 11:48 |
| HostingGeek | whats peoples opinions on conary? | 11:49 |
| \sh | *grmpf* brb | 11:53 |
| HostingGeek | Its used in foresight linux | 11:53 |
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| slomo | good morning :) | 12:59 |
| siretart | hi slomo | 12:59 |
| mort_ | hello ubuntu people! | 01:04 |
| mort_ | is there some kind of wnpp for ubuntu? | 01:04 |
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| JRe | yes | 01:05 |
| mort | URL? | 01:05 |
| JRe | mort: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSuggestedPackages | 01:06 |
| mort | JRe: cool, thanks | 01:06 |
| JRe | Riddell: mmm we should remove abaKus and Kasablanca from SuggestedPackages. Should i ? | 01:07 |
| Riddell | JRe: sure, probably various that need speaned up there | 01:07 |
| Riddell | although neither abakus nor kasablanca are in yet I think | 01:07 |
| JRe | Riddell: i have moved them to currenlty beeing worked on | 01:11 |
| Riddell | JRe: can you add icecream to that page | 01:11 |
| JRe | Riddell: it's same for kio-apt and kiosktool no ? | 01:11 |
| JRe | Riddell: sure | 01:12 |
| Riddell | it is | 01:12 |
| mort | I asked because I want to take webCDWriter into debian. the upstream guy has a package for ubuntu(http://joerghaeger.de/webCDwriter/debian.html) but doesn't seem to have had any communication with ubuntu | 01:12 |
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| JRe | mort: The package webcdwriter_2.7.1-1_i386.deb was built on Ubuntu Linux 5.04. | 01:15 |
| JRe | mort: you're sure it's a debian package? | 01:16 |
| mort | JRe: It's a ubuntu package, I was just looking for some feedback he received so I could improve it | 01:17 |
| JRe | mort: ho it's Java! so better to add it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates | 01:18 |
| mort | JRe: I could... but I'm not interested seeing it in ubuntu, I don't even run it! | 01:19 |
| ogra | mort, you can improve it ;) make it compile cleanly with gcj which is in the default install now | 01:19 |
| JRe | mort: mmm seems to be usefull! | 01:20 |
| mort | ogra: what bugs me much more is the missing depends. it _needs_ java and cdrecord to run but doesn't depend on it at all | 01:21 |
| ogra | thats bad... | 01:21 |
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| mort | JRe: it is useful! that way people who burn seldom can use some else's cd writer without needing to buy one | 01:22 |
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| mort | howdy DanielN`aw | 01:55 |
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| slomo | tseng: your tomboy upload is missing the patch i've added to bugzilla and has failed building because of that :( | 03:32 |
| slomo | tseng: oh no... it has failed because of something else... never mind... | 03:33 |
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| tseng | slomo: i see | 03:34 |
| tseng | slomo: the debian maintainer intentionally dropped that patch when he merged with ubuntu | 03:34 |
| tseng | slomo: erm, *you* added a patch to tomboy? | 03:35 |
| tseng | i do not recall this | 03:35 |
| slomo | tseng: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/attachment.cgi?id=3053 | 03:35 |
| tseng | oh | 03:35 |
| tseng | i suck | 03:35 |
| tseng | debian has a different name for libdbus-cil | 03:35 |
| slomo | tseng: the workaround with uint | 03:35 |
| tseng | we have libdbus-1-cil | 03:35 |
| tseng | um ok | 03:36 |
| tseng | can you talk to me tonight | 03:36 |
| tseng | i am at work | 03:36 |
| slomo | ok, np :) | 03:36 |
| jbailey | Is a signature from a DD considered good enough for MOTU application? | 04:04 |
| jbailey | (and uploading?) | 04:04 |
| Amaranth | can you get a path to ogra's key? | 04:06 |
| Amaranth | http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/ | 04:07 |
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| zul | yo | 04:07 |
| jbailey | zul: | 04:07 |
| jbailey | <Amaranth> can you get a path to ogra's key? | 04:07 |
| jbailey | <Amaranth> http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/ | 04:07 |
| Amaranth | just need to figure out what ogra's key is :) | 04:08 |
| ogra | hehe | 04:08 |
| jbailey | (zul's been doing a pile of work with fabionne and the Ubuntu kernels) | 04:08 |
| ogra | since you ping me all the time... | 04:08 |
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| zul | i thought i was already accepted as a motu | 04:08 |
| ogra | A2D06936 | 04:08 |
| jbailey | zul: Dunno. If not, what's Fabio talking about then? | 04:08 |
| zul | hmmm...not there | 04:09 |
| ogra | zul, err, arnet you uploading already since ages ? | 04:09 |
| zul | never uploaded all my patches for kernel and stuff has gone though fabio | 04:09 |
| ogra | oh | 04:10 |
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| zul | yeah so do i ;) | 04:10 |
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| zul | ogra: i think it was like a week after tseng | 04:14 |
| ogra | yep | 04:15 |
| zul | and i remember sending an email to mako saying that willy signed my key | 04:15 |
| zul | just never uploaded anything | 04:15 |
| ogra | oh, do it then.... | 04:16 |
| \sh | re | 04:16 |
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| \sh | hmm...anyone using actual xkbconfig bla and has a working keyboard layout? | 04:20 |
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| Tonio | hi everyone | 04:46 |
| Tonio | I'm juste subscrbing as an uploader, but didn't found the url to upload my public key..... | 04:46 |
| Tonio | can someone help me on that point ? | 04:47 |
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| bddebian | Hello | 04:48 |
| comadreja | \sh I just upgraded and keyboard still doesn't work here | 04:50 |
| comadreja | \sh same problem | 04:50 |
| \sh | ok..:) | 04:50 |
| \sh | after xorgconf? | 04:50 |
| comadreja | nopes, I haven't done that | 04:50 |
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| comadreja | how's that ? | 04:51 |
| bddebian | Heya tritium | 04:51 |
| \sh | hmmm..ok..I will test later...right now I'm trying to fix some other packages and upload | 04:51 |
| tritium | hello bddebian | 04:51 |
| bddebian | \sh: Thanks for uploading all of those! :-) | 04:51 |
| siretart | Tonio: I ment uploading to public keyservers ;) - if your ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf is correct, you can upload your key with gpg --send-keys <yourid> | 04:52 |
| Tonio | okay, not very familiar with encryption and keys at this time ;) | 04:52 |
| Tonio | any public keyserver is possible ? | 04:53 |
| siretart | yes, the big ones are exchanging keys | 04:54 |
| Tonio | okay, sorry for the confusion ;) | 04:54 |
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| Tonio | gpg: success sending to `wwwkeys.pgp.net' (status=200) | 04:54 |
| Tonio | should be okay | 04:55 |
| \sh | bddebian: np | 04:55 |
| siretart | jepp. Now I would have been able to retreive it myself ;) | 04:55 |
| retrix | hi, i just did a sudo pbuilder create to test a package, is there anything special i have to do to use ubuntu repositories? | 04:59 |
| retrix | i notice it seems to be using sid | 04:59 |
| \sh | retrix: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto | 05:00 |
| \sh | there is the magic described | 05:00 |
| retrix | \sh, thanks i just found it as you wrote that :) | 05:00 |
| bddebian | \sh: Shall I continue or am I causing more work than I'm helping?? :) | 05:00 |
| \sh | bddebian: do whatever you can... | 05:02 |
| Tonio | concerning pbuilder, if that can help people here I have done a scripts that completly automates the packaging... | 05:02 |
| Tonio | you are just prompt to give email, desc etc, and then all steps are done automaticly... | 05:02 |
| Tonio | even adding/remove packages to the chroot is possible | 05:03 |
| Tonio | if that can help... | 05:03 |
| \sh | Tonio: can u write a wiki page to it? | 05:03 |
| Tonio | maybe yes | 05:03 |
| \sh | make it a subpage to PbuilderHowto | 05:03 |
| \sh | would be great | 05:04 |
| ogra | Tonio, is your key signed already ? | 05:04 |
| Tonio | not at this time, cause a lot of things to do, but I will ;) | 05:04 |
| Tonio | ogra, yes | 05:04 |
| ogra | great :) | 05:04 |
| Tonio | you mean ? uploaded ? | 05:04 |
| Tonio | \sh the only thing is that it is not sh or even perl, but php-cli script | 05:05 |
| \sh | ug | 05:05 |
| Tonio | don't ask me why but I really hate perl ;)= | 05:05 |
| \sh | can we convert it to plain bash? | 05:05 |
| Tonio | so I do everything with php | 05:05 |
| \sh | or python | 05:05 |
| Tonio | why convert it ? | 05:05 |
| bddebian | \sh: My question was more, is it helping? :-) | 05:05 |
| ogra | Tonio, nope, i mean signed by someone else you met i person... | 05:05 |
| Tonio | juste install php-cli and then it works like perl | 05:06 |
| \sh | bddebian: sure :) everything helps dude :) | 05:06 |
| ogra | Tonio, thats a requirement | 05:06 |
| \sh | Tonio: well..actually nobody installs php-cli ;) | 05:06 |
| Tonio | you can put the script in /usr/bin and type the script name.... | 05:06 |
| \sh | even not a php dev like me for cli work ;) | 05:06 |
| Tonio | \sh hehehe I know ;) but I love php | 05:06 |
| ogra | what is php-cli ? | 05:06 |
| \sh | sh, perl, python ;) | 05:06 |
| Tonio | ogra, no I dndn't perofm that step.... | 05:07 |
| \sh | php-cli is php interpreter for commandline | 05:07 |
| ogra | heh, there are funny things in this world :) | 05:07 |
| Tonio | is there a wiki explaining all of this ? cause I'm not very confortable and surely newbie with using keys.... | 05:07 |
| ogra | Tonio, you'll need a valid signature ... | 05:07 |
| Tonio | how to get it ? | 05:08 |
| ogra | Tonio, go to a keyigning party anywhere near you or find someone through biglumber.com to sign your key | 05:08 |
| Tonio | okay | 05:08 |
| ogra | you need to meet in person.... | 05:08 |
| jsgotangco | keysigning is fun | 05:08 |
| ogra | the signature makes your key valid... | 05:08 |
| bddebian | You mean we can't use invalid signatures? ;-P | 05:08 |
| tseng | bddebian: we have to recognize the signers | 05:09 |
| ogra | bddebian, trying to fall back into the joking corner ? i thought you meved on to being MOTU :-p | 05:09 |
| bddebian | tseng: I was kidding.. Sheesh.. :-) | 05:09 |
| \sh | sorry...when I'm a bit harsh today :( the body of my grandma died this morning around 11 o'clock...and now I understand why I was up so early this morning | 05:09 |
| jsgotangco | people were making fun of my handwritten passport during UDU | 05:09 |
| bddebian | ogra: Oh if I become an MOTU I can't joke anymore? | 05:09 |
| ogra | moved even | 05:09 |
| tseng | bddebian: not funny. | 05:09 |
| jsgotangco | \sh: sorry to hear about that, read it on your blog... | 05:10 |
| ogra | bddebian, we'll discuss it at the next MOTUMeeting *g* | 05:10 |
| === bddebian knows nothing about MOTUMeeting | ||
| \sh | jsgotangco: well...actually my father reported she's going to die, at this day...today it was the end..actually it was the best | 05:10 |
| ogra | bddebian, its the one with the many topics: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMeeting | 05:11 |
| bddebian | ogra: Uhm, I don't see any agenda items on MOTUMeeting? | 05:12 |
| ogra | bddebian, thats what i meant :) | 05:13 |
| Tonio | ogra just in case I'm not that stupid... How to contact them for the key signing ? Joining the key to an email and wait ? | 05:14 |
| bddebian | Tonio: You need to meet face to face with people to get your key signed typically | 05:15 |
| Tonio | face to face ? you mean, IRL ????????? | 05:15 |
| ogra | Tonio, nope, you need to meed in person | 05:15 |
| bddebian | Tonio: Yes | 05:15 |
| \sh | argl..i need xmkmf | 05:15 |
| jsgotangco | Tonio: aye, that's the fun with keysigning... | 05:15 |
| ogra | Tonio, email isnt enough to make it trustable | 05:15 |
| Tonio | damn........................ | 05:15 |
| bddebian | Tonio: The person needs to be able to validate you are who you are | 05:15 |
| jsgotangco | Tonio: you get to mess around with people's mugshots... | 05:16 |
| bddebian | Tonio: and usually that is via a passport, drivers-license, some type of official identification | 05:16 |
| Tonio | so the validating guys spend they time meeting people ? that's horrible lol | 05:16 |
| ogra | Tonio, keysigning means each of you shows your ID card and verifys that the key is really yours... its your identity like a signature in real life | 05:16 |
| jsgotangco | Tonio: you can't completely trust someone you haven't met face to face... | 05:16 |
| bddebian | Tonio: No, no. Once you have your key signed by someone in the web of trust, validation is fairly straightforward. | 05:17 |
| Tonio | I can understand that yes, but it's gonna take a while, certainly, I'm not ready to upload those packages ;) | 05:17 |
| Tonio | So I have to send an email to one of those personns and say I need a keysigning so I'd like the meet him.... | 05:17 |
| === bddebian adds "Get a sense of humor" to MOTUMeeting agenda then runs away | ||
| ogra | Tonio, after you have a key you can apply for becoming a ubuntu memeer... onyl after that you can become a MOTU and get upload rights | 05:18 |
| ogra | bddebian, you will have to hold a talk about it then ;) | 05:18 |
| ogra | s/memeer/member | 05:19 |
| Tonio | I'll do, no pb, I was just dissapointed because I didn't knew that kind of process at all.... | 05:19 |
| \sh | hmmm...3 pbuilder is not good for my laptop | 05:19 |
| bddebian | ogra: Nah, I will keep my mouth shut since I already annoy tseng and crimsun | 05:19 |
| ogra | \sh, you said that yesterday already... still no additional HW ? | 05:19 |
| \sh | no | 05:19 |
| lamont__ | \sh: more than one is silly unless you have an SMP laptop | 05:19 |
| \sh | lamont__: I have time ;-) | 05:20 |
| jsgotangco | Tonio: sure it's a challenge, but there's a sense of accomplishment and connection with people once you've done it | 05:20 |
| bddebian | \sh: Maybe I should fire up my old Dual P2 450Mhz Compaq proliant for ya? ;-) | 05:20 |
| jsgotangco | once the connection is there, everything is quite easy.. | 05:20 |
| Tonio | jsgotangco: agree ;) | 05:20 |
| \sh | Riddell made me the offer to use his fast server ;) | 05:20 |
| bddebian | Ahh | 05:20 |
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| lamont__ | \sh: 3 in series will execute faster than 3 in parallel on a UP machine | 05:21 |
| Tonio | jsgotangco: will he need me to come with the key, or will he find it uploaded on the keyserver | 05:22 |
| \sh | lamont__: too late...only 2 running now ,-) | 05:22 |
| \sh | 3rd one finished and uploaded | 05:22 |
| \sh | but I need a working X .. more likely | 05:22 |
| bddebian | Tonio: Just print out your fingerprint | 05:23 |
| \sh | xmkmf is holding 2 packs...kdebase is w8ing for rebuild | 05:23 |
| \sh | gnagna | 05:23 |
| \sh | dia --export-to-format=png-libart --export=chat-bind.dia.png.tmp chat-bind.dia | 05:23 |
| \sh | and this is ugly< | 05:23 |
| Tonio | bddebian: okay, let me translate in french, lol I don't know what is fingerprint... | 05:23 |
| jsgotangco | Tonio: you might find this handy http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/gpg-party.html | 05:26 |
| bddebian | Tonio: "gpg --fingerprint <your email address here> | 05:27 |
| bddebian | " | 05:27 |
| Tonio | thanks ;) | 05:28 |
| \sh | uga | 05:30 |
| \sh | what crap | 05:30 |
| \sh | anyone have time to ldaptor? | 05:31 |
| bddebian | \sh: Time to what? | 05:34 |
| \sh | http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10503 | 05:34 |
| \sh | try to build and fix ;) | 05:34 |
| \sh | actually give me a hint what it does. | 05:35 |
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| bddebian | \sh: Hey, this is assigned to you, it's your problem. ;-P | 05:35 |
| bddebian | Oops, sorry, I joked again.. :-( | 05:36 |
| \sh | I know :) | 05:36 |
| Tonio | Just a little question, because siretart explained to me that I could upload to REVU without a signed key, what is the differences between the two process ? | 05:42 |
| bddebian | Tonio: REVU are packages that need to be reviewed by an MOTU | 05:42 |
| bddebian | Tonio: MOTU uploads go directly to the build process and archive | 05:43 |
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| Tonio | lol okay, that's clear now. | 05:43 |
| Tonio | so I'll start with revu and then maybe on of those days motu when my key is signed. | 05:43 |
| siretart | Tonio: exactly. REVU is just a platform for making the reviewing for MOTUS more easy | 05:44 |
| bddebian | Tonio: Well to clear up a little. REVU is only for packages that we don't currently have in the archive (as far as I understand it anyway). If you are fixing and existing package then you need to put them on bugzilla or launchpad | 05:44 |
| bddebian | But don't quote me, I'm st00pid :-) | 05:45 |
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| \sh | bddebian: forget ldaptor...I fixed it | 05:47 |
| \sh | or better workaround it | 05:47 |
| bddebian | Damn man, you are too fast :-) | 05:48 |
| === bddebian crawls back to his hole | ||
| === slomo gets back to work on MOTUToMerge... enough java for today ;) | ||
| \sh | bddebian: No..I'm just a bit frustrated | 05:49 |
| siretart | \sh: about what? | 05:49 |
| \sh | siretart: my grandma was dieing...and today her body died | 05:49 |
| siretart | \sh: oh :( - I'm sorry for you.. | 05:50 |
| \sh | my father called me a couple of days ago, that she will go in a couple of hours, days...and I found myself this morning sitting at 4am in front of the computer...think I knew already that today will happen somethin | 05:51 |
| \sh | g | 05:51 |
| siretart | :( | 05:51 |
| \sh | so I left work..and went to bed..not to think about all this..dreamed again..and now I'm just working,..not to think of anything else | 05:53 |
| \sh | bddebian: actually I'm human :) | 05:53 |
| \sh | and not a machine ;) | 05:54 |
| \sh | and yes | 05:55 |
| \sh | linephone for i386, amd64, ppc | 05:55 |
| siretart | rock! | 05:55 |
| bddebian | \sh: Sorry to hear that. :-( | 05:55 |
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| \sh | bddebian: that's the way life goes...ups and downs.. | 05:57 |
| SCOGroup | :P | 05:58 |
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| bddebian | OK, meeting time.. :-( | 05:58 |
| jsgotangco | what the hehe | 05:58 |
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| siretart | bddebian: meeting? | 05:59 |
| bddebian | Work :-( | 05:59 |
| siretart | ah ok. hf | 05:59 |
| SCOGroup | :( | 05:59 |
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| Tonio | does the change file need to be signed to REVU ? | 06:03 |
| JRe | Tonio: you have to sign the package with a key belonging to the keyring i guess | 06:04 |
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| Tonio | logic.... How to perform this, during package creation with pbuilder ? | 06:04 |
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| siretart | Tonio: yes, please sign the .changes file with debsign, if you run dpkg-buildpackage with -us -uc | 06:10 |
| Tonio | k | 06:12 |
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| \sh | patching time | 06:32 |
| DanielN | :) | 06:33 |
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| \sh | and 3 bugs closed | 06:39 |
| bddebian | \sh: Are you SURE you aren't a machine? :-) | 06:40 |
| \sh | bddebian: yes I'm sure..and you should be at a meeting? ,-) | 06:40 |
| bddebian | \sh: Bah screw em :-) | 06:41 |
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| \sh | actually I want to have the new ubuntu shirt: merger of the month *harharhar* | 06:41 |
| Tonio | ok done for the source signing... | 06:41 |
| Tonio | is it also necessary to sign the binary package ? | 06:41 |
| siretart | Tonio: please don't upload binary packages, we can only review what we can read ;) | 06:43 |
| Tonio | ah okay.... | 06:44 |
| Tonio | then you're rebuilding them by yourself ? | 06:44 |
| \sh | yes | 06:44 |
| \sh | right now...later it will be done automatically | 06:45 |
| Tonio | okay... | 06:45 |
| \sh | hmm...12 packages from 14:30utc | 06:47 |
| bddebian | Wow | 06:48 |
| === bddebian better get crackin' | ||
| slomo | can someone request a sync of ace from debian at elmo? the ubuntu changes can be dropped | 06:57 |
| bddebian | \sh: I just noticed the t-shirt comment. LOL. Now stop joking around. ;-) | 06:58 |
| \sh | bddebian: why? | 06:59 |
| bddebian | \sh: Because I get in trouble for it. :-) | 06:59 |
| siretart | slomo: is there a bugzilla bug? | 06:59 |
| slomo | siretart: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10580 | 07:00 |
| \sh | bddebian: if you work hard...you can make jokes as long as u want *lol* | 07:00 |
| bddebian | \sh: No apparently I can't. Of course, maybe I'm not working hard? :-) | 07:00 |
| \sh | bddebian: come fill in some bugs ,-) | 07:00 |
| bddebian | Trying to build hardware-monitor as we speak :) | 07:01 |
| \sh | and I will let libbuffy fly | 07:01 |
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| siretart | slomo: then I'd suggest reassigning the bug to elmo | 07:02 |
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| \sh | but configure is not doing as expected | 07:03 |
| \sh | damn cdbs | 07:03 |
| bddebian | \sh: There's another.. :-) | 07:03 |
| \sh | so I have to patch something...*grrr* | 07:04 |
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| slomo | siretart: never mind... the debian version doesn't build out of the box :/ some c++ weirdness... lets look for a fix ;) | 07:07 |
| bddebian | Hey, what happened to licq? | 07:07 |
| \sh | done? | 07:07 |
| \sh | I think I did it | 07:07 |
| \sh | i don't know anymore | 07:08 |
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| bddebian | \sh: You fixed the gcc4 fsckage? | 07:08 |
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| \sh | actually...I don't know anymore..can be... | 07:08 |
| bddebian | Heh | 07:08 |
| bddebian | OK, I wanna do debtags but I KNOW it isn't going to work | 07:09 |
| \sh | I uploaded on friday | 07:09 |
| bddebian | debtags? | 07:09 |
| \sh | but looks like | 07:10 |
| \sh | yeah I fixed it ,-) | 07:10 |
| \sh | why? | 07:10 |
| bddebian | does it make libdebtags1-dev?? | 07:10 |
| bddebian | If not, how did you get around the build-dep for libdebtags1-dev? | 07:11 |
| \sh | bddebian: apt-get source licq? ,-) | 07:11 |
| \sh | no licq | 07:11 |
| bddebian | \sh: No, I meant debtags.. | 07:12 |
| bddebian | Ack, I'm getting confused | 07:12 |
| \sh | oh no..I never touched debtags | 07:12 |
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| \sh | damn | 07:14 |
| \sh | the merge diff b0rked the whole upstream source | 07:17 |
| \sh | I have to start from the debian package..not from the merge | 07:18 |
| bddebian | How should I tag a bug for a missing build-dep? | 07:21 |
| bddebian | NEEDINFO? UPSTREAM? | 07:22 |
| \sh | which packages? | 07:22 |
| bddebian | In this case debtags | 07:22 |
| \sh | ask in -devel...what about debtags | 07:23 |
| \sh | if this is missing..what package are u working on? | 07:23 |
| bddebian | ?? | 07:23 |
| \sh | u said: missing build-dep == debtas | 07:23 |
| \sh | debtags even | 07:23 |
| \sh | so what package are u working on? | 07:23 |
| bddebian | \sh: No, debtags is missing build-dep libdebtags-dev (>= 1.0.3) | 07:24 |
| \sh | resync from debian? | 07:25 |
| \sh | ask in -devel if it's ok to break UVF for that | 07:25 |
| \sh | and if it's ok...then ping elmo for sync | 07:25 |
| bddebian | Break UVF? | 07:25 |
| bddebian | Ohh, nm | 07:26 |
| \sh | UpstreamVersionFreeze | 07:26 |
| bddebian | I asked about it the other day and they said it's Universe | 07:26 |
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| bddebian | OK< gotta go back and check on my installers. bbiab. | 07:27 |
| Tonio | I just uploaded the first package | 07:29 |
| Tonio | if everything is correct I will add the 20 others... | 07:29 |
| Tonio | thanks to all of you for your help ! | 07:29 |
| siretart | Tonio: your upload was successfull. btw, did you check your packages with lintian and linda? | 07:31 |
| Tonio | I'm using debuild 6S | 07:32 |
| Tonio | it is supposed to perform that yes.... | 07:32 |
| Tonio | well, that's what is said in the man ;) | 07:33 |
| siretart | Tonio: please rerun lintian on the .dsc file | 07:33 |
| Tonio | okay | 07:33 |
| Tonio | then reupload ? | 07:34 |
| siretart | I'd say so, you will get reviews that tell you to fix the lintian warnings ;) | 07:34 |
| siretart | for NEW packages, please dont use -1 as revision but -0ubuntu1. | 07:35 |
| Tonio | siretart: no warning... | 07:35 |
| siretart | lintian will cry about that, ignore that | 07:35 |
| \sh | any amd64 guru here? | 07:35 |
| Tonio | okay for -1 | 07:35 |
| siretart | Tonio: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/incoming/katalog-0507251930/lintian this is what I get | 07:35 |
| Tonio | yes I have it too... | 07:36 |
| Tonio | which means ? | 07:36 |
| siretart | that you should fix them ;) | 07:37 |
| Tonio | lol okay | 07:37 |
| Tonio | didn't knew that it was necessary ;) | 07:37 |
| Tonio | I'll do | 07:37 |
| \sh | siretart: do u have an amd64? | 07:38 |
| Tonio | siretart: sorry I'll be a pain in the ass for the first package, but it'll be okay for the others ^^ | 07:38 |
| siretart | \sh: yes, at home | 07:38 |
| siretart | Tonio: no problem, your welcome. we all had our first packaging experience ;) | 07:39 |
| \sh | siretart: can u look at this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/x/xmms-jack/0.14-3ubuntu2/xmms-jack_0.14-3ubuntu2_20050725-1749-amd64-failed.gz | 07:39 |
| siretart | \sh: that jack.o was compiled without -fPIC. this is not that urgent on i386. but will fail on amd64 | 07:41 |
| siretart | and on nearly every other architecture, I read | 07:41 |
| \sh | hmmm.. | 07:44 |
| \sh | only jack.o? cause I set -fPIC | 07:44 |
| \sh | should I set it in the CFLAGS? | 07:44 |
| siretart | I think yes, I can try it out when I get home | 07:45 |
| \sh | I'll upload with a change | 07:46 |
| bddebian | siretart: Hey, you never check MY uploads that fast ;-P | 07:48 |
| siretart | bddebian: I get copies of output of 'process_uploads.sh', a lintian output is included there | 07:50 |
| bddebian | siretart: Ahh :-) | 07:50 |
| \sh | siretart: i have to bug u again ;)http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/g/gtk-gnutella/0.95.3-1ubuntu1/gtk-gnutella_0.95.3-1ubuntu1_20050725-1747-amd64-failed.gz | 07:51 |
| \sh | vmsg.c: In function 'handle_time_sync_reply': | 07:51 |
| \sh | vmsg.c:1189: error: duplicate case value | 07:51 |
| \sh | vmsg.c:1189: error: previously used here | 07:51 |
| \sh | but I don't see a case here ,-) | 07:52 |
| siretart | \sh: I'd have to look in the source, I'll do that when I get home, ok? | 07:52 |
| \sh | siretart: thx | 07:53 |
| \sh | oi..rain and a lot of it | 07:54 |
| slomo | hmm, we have wxwindows2.4 as a merger... shall i look at it or mark the bug resolved because of 2.6? | 07:57 |
| siretart | slomo: I think we will need both | 07:58 |
| slomo | ok, i'll take it ;) | 07:58 |
| bddebian | Ack, schooltool doesn't look right | 07:59 |
| slomo | hmmmmm... wxwindows2.4 is a native package? | 07:59 |
| siretart | wtf? | 08:00 |
| Tonio | siretart: W: katalog source: changelog-should-mention-nmu -> do I have to manage with this too ? | 08:00 |
| siretart | Tonio: ignore this. lintian does not now about ubuntu specialities | 08:01 |
| siretart | Tonio: basically, all of our uploads are nmu's, in debian terms | 08:01 |
| slomo | ah ok, we have already a newer wxwindows2.4 version in the archives... no need to worry, siretart ;) | 08:01 |
| siretart | ok | 08:01 |
| Tonio | siretart: okay | 08:02 |
| slomo | Tonio: hmm, maybe you want to look at cdbs... this will make your rules much smaller ;) also the build-deps doesn't seem right to me | 08:05 |
| siretart | slomo: I think it won't hurt to make the first packages without cdbs | 08:06 |
| siretart | slomo: after all, you understand what cdbs does for you | 08:06 |
| Tonio | what's the problem with deps ? | 08:06 |
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| slomo | Tonio: just debhelper for a kde package seems a bit weird... i think at least kdelibs-dev or something similar is needed | 08:08 |
| siretart | Tonio: did you try to build your package in pbuilder? | 08:09 |
| siretart | pbuilder is great to check build dependencies | 08:09 |
| Tonio | works fine but that's true I have to add libe manually | 08:10 |
| Tonio | then the binary packagehas the correct deps... | 08:10 |
| bddebian | Grrr | 08:10 |
| Tonio | best thing is maybe to build it within pbuilder and then modify the deps manually isn't it ? | 08:10 |
| siretart | please note that all packages are autobuilt in ubuntu, so with wrong build deps, your package will FTBFS (fail to build from source) | 08:10 |
| bddebian | Or like unnecesary patches for gcc4 :-) | 08:11 |
| Tonio | yes I understand.... | 08:11 |
| JDahl | Debian Unstable recently included a much newer version of OpenAFS, which I would love to see included in Breezy/Universe (The current packages are not really useful since they only work for kernel 2.4). Whom do I beg, and is there an official mailinglist for requests like that? | 08:12 |
| slomo | siretart: ok, maybe you're right :) but i think when he first sees cdbs he feels like me and wonders why he struggled with all these stuff in rules ;) | 08:12 |
| siretart | slomo: with purpose :) | 08:13 |
| slomo | siretart: and it seems many don't know what cdbs can do for them ;) so it's maybe better when he googles for it right after his first package | 08:16 |
| siretart | slomo: cdbs has also quite annoying bugs | 08:16 |
| siretart | and is sometimes hard to debug, but for simple packages, it's great | 08:17 |
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| \sh | ah won :) | 08:18 |
| slomo | siretart: ok... i haven't found any bugs until now ;) what is the most annoying one? | 08:19 |
| siretart | slomo: choose one: http://bugs.debian.org/cdbs | 08:21 |
| siretart | ;) | 08:21 |
| SloMoSnail | hum... i haven't said anything ;) some of them are nearly 2 years old... | 08:23 |
| \sh | siretart: ok..jack.o is compiled with -fPIC...but amd64 complains again | 08:28 |
| \sh | siretart: can u check alter on xmms-jack? | 08:28 |
| siretart | will do later | 08:30 |
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| \sh | *yawn* | 08:34 |
| \sh | I think I retire today | 08:35 |
| j_fletcher | hehe :) | 08:41 |
| \sh | but just now | 08:48 |
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| \sh | hey herve | 08:48 |
| herve | hello | 08:48 |
| herve | I was about to say "morning" :)- | 08:48 |
| herve | who was fighting againt qemu? | 08:48 |
| tseng | herve: did you send boo changes to debian | 08:48 |
| \sh | siretart: ? | 08:49 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: boo is synced already | 08:49 |
| tseng | uh? | 08:49 |
| tseng | that wasnt my question | 08:49 |
| tseng | he made ubuntu changes | 08:49 |
| SloMoSnail | tseng: ah sorry... i can't read :( | 08:50 |
| herve | tseng, this is how elmo works, the packages are named with my name but signed by the auto archiver | 08:50 |
| tseng | herve: oh right, so that was just a sync | 08:50 |
| herve | it really is a sync | 08:50 |
| tseng | herve: thanks. im dumb | 08:50 |
| siretart | herve: I uploaded it, it still needs a patch from debian bts, and some dependencies | 08:51 |
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| herve | siretart, because I read a new version was out | 08:52 |
| herve | I sent my application to the laptop testing team today :-) | 08:52 |
| tseng | nice | 08:52 |
| siretart | :) | 08:53 |
| herve | if you are too | 08:53 |
| herve | note the fax number given in the application form is wrong | 08:53 |
| herve | it's Claire's number | 08:53 |
| herve | use the one from her signature | 08:54 |
| herve | else you will hear "canonical, hello" from the fax machine :-) | 08:54 |
| \sh | lol | 08:54 |
| \sh | hello claire *peeep* | 08:54 |
| herve | no, she can redirect the call to her fax machine at worst | 08:55 |
| herve | ok, I look what I can upload | 08:55 |
| \sh | what? | 08:56 |
| herve | + at | 08:57 |
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| siretart | herve: I'm really busy this week, if you want a working qemu, coordinate with slomo | 08:58 |
| herve | ok | 08:58 |
| herve | but I hope the compilation is not eating too much resource | 08:58 |
| herve | my laptop gets easily on fire | 08:58 |
| \sh | hehe | 08:59 |
| \sh | my laptop burns ;) | 08:59 |
| \sh | ok..if this is not a oneline I will go to bed for today | 09:00 |
| \sh | crap oneliner...upload | 09:00 |
| SloMoSnail | herve: is someone already working on an updated debian package for 0.7.1? | 09:02 |
| \sh | ugh....source is 3.0 diff is 6.6M | 09:03 |
| \sh | bla | 09:03 |
| herve | I don't known that | 09:03 |
| siretart | ok, driving home. byw folks | 09:05 |
| herve | see you | 09:06 |
| \sh | siretart: cu .. | 09:07 |
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| herve | I'll be back... | 09:43 |
| herve | :-) | 09:43 |
| bddebian | Thanks for the warning ;-) | 09:43 |
| \sh | I'm not in bed :( | 09:44 |
| bddebian | \sh: Be quiet and get to work. ;-P | 09:44 |
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| \sh | bddebian: hmmmm.... | 09:51 |
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| herve | re | 10:16 |
| \sh | re herve | 10:17 |
| \sh | last cigarette for today..then bedtime | 10:17 |
| \sh | I completly exhausted | 10:17 |
| herve | I can imagine | 10:17 |
| siretart | re | 10:17 |
| siretart | \sh: what packages did you want me to look at? | 10:18 |
| herve | hmm... one package I "uploaded" today failed to build | 10:18 |
| \sh | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/x/xmms-jack/0.14-3ubuntu3/xmms-jack_0.14-3ubuntu3_20050725-1919-amd64-failed.gz | 10:18 |
| bddebian | wb herve | 10:18 |
| \sh | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/g/gtk-gnutella/0.95.3-1ubuntu1/gtk-gnutella_0.95.3-1ubuntu1_20050725-1747-amd64-failed.gz | 10:18 |
| bddebian | \sh: Last cigarette??? Nooo :-) | 10:18 |
| bddebian | wb siretart | 10:18 |
| \sh | bddebian: yes for sure | 10:20 |
| siretart | hi bddebian | 10:20 |
| \sh | siretart: if you can fix it somehow, please upload and update the bugs | 10:21 |
| \sh | http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10441 | 10:21 |
| \sh | http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10616 | 10:22 |
| herve | something changed with the qt3 headers? | 10:23 |
| \sh | it's ok when I retire for this evening? yes? bddebian? | 10:23 |
| siretart | \sh: you must fall from your chair of tiredness, go and sleep well! | 10:24 |
| \sh | herve: yeah..riddell uploaded after the last xorg mess..libXcursor.la is not installed anymore | 10:24 |
| bddebian | \sh: Oh, I guess so. :-) Good work as usual. :-) | 10:24 |
| \sh | hehe | 10:24 |
| herve | I mean, compiling a package depending on libqt3-headers and libqt3-mt-dev | 10:24 |
| \sh | no..that's always the same | 10:25 |
| herve | configure: error: qmake not found in current PATH. Maybe QT development environment isn't available (qt3-devel). | 10:25 |
| \sh | ah | 10:25 |
| herve | but the dependencies seem good | 10:25 |
| \sh | qt3-tools | 10:25 |
| \sh | bla | 10:25 |
| herve | qt3-tools is missing? | 10:25 |
| \sh | qt3-dev-tools | 10:25 |
| \sh | or qt3-apps-dev | 10:25 |
| herve | I see no such thing | 10:26 |
| siretart | \sh: you won't beleive it, xmms-jack_0.14-3ubuntu3 got built here 'as is' | 10:26 |
| \sh | qt3-dev-tools: | 10:26 |
| \sh | siretart: no | 10:26 |
| \sh | strange | 10:26 |
| siretart | yeah | 10:26 |
| === siretart confused | ||
| \sh | me too | 10:26 |
| \sh | (c) aol.com | 10:26 |
| siretart | argl | 10:26 |
| siretart | sorry | 10:26 |
| siretart | this was inside my i386 chroot :/ | 10:27 |
| herve | the buildd can be b0rked sometimes | 10:27 |
| herve | I hope lamont is not here :-) | 10:27 |
| \sh | he's lurking around, I think..suddenly he appears and mumbling something, that 3 pbuilders in series are better then in a row ,-) | 10:27 |
| \sh | I don't believe it (tm) | 10:28 |
| siretart | :) | 10:28 |
| \sh | sorry lamont :) just joking | 10:28 |
| herve | so \sh you mean qt3-dev-tools is missing? | 10:29 |
| \sh | yes | 10:29 |
| \sh | herve: in debuild state or inside the pbuilder | 10:29 |
| \sh | ? | 10:29 |
| herve | strange debian is ok | 10:29 |
| herve | the pbuilder | 10:30 |
| herve | compilation failed on all buildds | 10:30 |
| \sh | herve: which one? | 10:30 |
| \sh | no... | 10:30 |
| \sh | i didn't ask | 10:30 |
| \sh | nono | 10:31 |
| \sh | I'm off | 10:31 |
| \sh | buffy? | 10:31 |
| bddebian | Later \sh | 10:31 |
| \sh | ok..g'night... | 10:31 |
| \sh | thx siretart for helping me out | 10:31 |
| \sh | bddebian: and don't forget your jokes :) | 10:32 |
| bddebian | \sh: I'm not allowed. ;-P | 10:32 |
| \sh | herve: if I can help you...send a mail to sh at sourcecode.de or something.. | 10:32 |
| \sh | anyways. | 10:32 |
| bddebian | Damn I wish this bugzilla-daemon would stop sending me e-mails.. :-) | 10:33 |
| === lamont__ bemoans his lack of rotten vegetables | ||
| bddebian | Uhm.. | 10:34 |
| herve | \sh_away, sorry I was cooking rice :-) | 10:36 |
| herve | \sh_away, no, think of something else, have rest, and dream sweet dreams | 10:37 |
| herve | Riddell, ping | 10:39 |
| bddebian | Should I bother with the xfc3 merge issues or is that a xfce team job? | 10:42 |
| bddebian | Err s/xfc3/xfce/ | 10:42 |
| herve | there's a team so keep it for the end | 10:43 |
| herve | gaah! hydrogen can't find the qt3 headers | 10:43 |
| Riddell | herve: hi | 10:45 |
| SloMoSnail | bddebian: no... ogra said that's the job of the xfce team and one of them meant he's working on it | 10:46 |
| herve | Riddell, hi | 10:46 |
| herve | Riddell, did you change the package where the qt3 headers go compared to debian? | 10:46 |
| Riddell | herve: nope | 10:48 |
| herve | I have a package that can't find the qt3 headers | 10:48 |
| herve | hmm | 10:48 |
| herve | it also says it can't find qmake | 10:48 |
| herve | but the package is installed... | 10:48 |
| === bddebian tags all xfce* bugs to xfce team.. ;-P | ||
| herve | doko, ping | 10:51 |
| herve | bddebian, it will assign bugs to them? | 10:51 |
| bddebian | herve: I was kidding. Man everyone is so serious around here. :-) | 10:52 |
| herve | well it is a serious job :-) | 10:53 |
| bddebian | Hmm, the debian-dropped patch has build-depends python2.4 but the merged sorce package has 2.4? Which do I use? Leave 2.4? | 10:57 |
| herve | maybe the debian one moved to python2.4? | 10:58 |
| SloMoSnail | hm, when a package just needs g++ to build... must i add anything like libstdc++-dev or g++ to build-deps? | 10:58 |
| herve | anyway, it's hard to answer like that | 10:58 |
| herve | SloMoSnail, no, build-essential is induced | 10:58 |
| bddebian | herve: Sorry I meant the dropped patch still has python2.3 but the merged source has 2.4 | 10:58 |
| herve | check it's coherent and test the build | 11:00 |
| bddebian | Of course | 11:00 |
| herve | I doubt MoM is bug-free | 11:00 |
| bddebian | WHAT? | 11:00 |
| bddebian | ;-) | 11:00 |
| SloMoSnail | hmm... what will this be fixed automatically? http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/i/icu/2.1-3ubuntu1/icu_2.1-3ubuntu1_20050725-2138-i386-failed.gz | 11:01 |
| SloMoSnail | other archs built without problems | 11:01 |
| herve | surely temporary error | 11:02 |
| herve | ping lamont otherwise | 11:02 |
| SloMoSnail | ok, thanks | 11:03 |
| bddebian | SloMoSnail: How goes things? | 11:03 |
| SloMoSnail | bddebian: fine :) have fixed 5 mom-packages and currently i'm packaging dirac for gstreamer-plugins-multiverse ;) | 11:04 |
| Burgundavia | isn't dirac FLOSS? | 11:05 |
| SloMoSnail | FLOSS? | 11:05 |
| bddebian | SloMoSnail: Nice | 11:05 |
| Burgundavia | sladen, Free/Open source software | 11:06 |
| herve | there's a license isssue on dirac? | 11:06 |
| herve | Free/Libre... | 11:06 |
| herve | else you miss the L :-) | 11:06 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 11:06 |
| SloMoSnail | not afaik... it's under MPL and as far as the developers know they even don't infrige any patents | 11:06 |
| Burgundavia | ah, then why multiverse? | 11:07 |
| herve | maybe it hasn't been reviewed for legal issue | 11:07 |
| Burgundavia | I just want it in ubuntu, dont really care about where it goes | 11:07 |
| SloMoSnail | dirac will go to universe i think... but it doesn't make sense to do 2 different gst-plugins packages for multiverse and universe ;) | 11:07 |
| === herve just killed his firefox searching for "-" in a 160k diff... | ||
| doko | herve: pong | 11:09 |
| Mez | any MOTU "admin" here | 11:10 |
| Mez | prefereably dholbach or ogra | 11:10 |
| bddebian | Wow, next goal 30 | 11:10 |
| herve | doko, I am merging zope2.7 with latest debian, unless you want to do something special? | 11:10 |
| lamont__ | SloMoSnail: the only log I currently have for icu is from ppc on autotest | 11:11 |
| SloMoSnail | lamont: hmm, at http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/i/icu/2.1-3ubuntu1/ are all buildlogs | 11:13 |
| doko | herve: that's ok | 11:13 |
| bddebian | Well I'm heading home. Later folks. | 11:13 |
| herve | bye bddebian | 11:14 |
| lamont__ | SloMoSnail: yeah - I'm trying to be lazy... :) and the fact that it's not in my mailbox means that either (1) it was automatically queued, or (2) it hasn't made it through the straw to my machine yet | 11:14 |
| lamont__ | and given that it's only 40 minutes old, it's probably option #2 | 11:14 |
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| SloMo_ | hmm... connection has disappeared :/ | 11:15 |
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| ajmitch | morning all | 11:25 |
| === ajmitch somehow got a laptop testing team email as well | ||
| herve | morning ajmitch | 11:26 |
| herve | ajmitch, I sent my application today :-) | 11:26 |
| ajmitch | hey herve | 11:26 |
| ajmitch | good to see you merging zope2.7 changes | 11:26 |
| ajmitch | are there many changes there? | 11:26 |
| ajmitch | & what zope packages are left? | 11:27 |
| === ajmitch will get a list of zope packages we've modified & put them into baz archives for sending to the debian team | ||
| herve | some patches are in the new zope2.7 from debian | 11:27 |
| herve | others are still specific to ubuntu | 11:27 |
| herve | I haven't touched products | 11:28 |
| ajmitch | ok | 11:28 |
| herve | and won't today, it's already bedtime | 11:28 |
| ajmitch | the products I've merged have been simple merges | 11:28 |
| ajmitch | ok :) | 11:28 |
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| siretart | \sh_away: I uploaded xmms-jack_0.14-3ubuntu4. a real ugly package, which should be repackaged by someone who knows what he does. perhaps with cdbs | 11:42 |
| \sh | damn I can't sleep cause I#m hungry | 11:43 |
| herve | hehe | 11:43 |
| \sh | thx siretart ... | 11:43 |
| herve | but what are you doing here? | 11:43 |
| herve | looking for TheFridge? ;-) | 11:43 |
| \sh | I'm eating..finally I start cooking ;) | 11:43 |
| herve | everything happens! | 11:43 |
| whiprush | hey! no fridge jokes! | 11:44 |
| siretart | \sh: the orig tarball is a mess, too | 11:44 |
| \sh | siretart: well...next release...we need more time | 11:44 |
| Burgundavia | whiprush, I am hungry, where is TheFridge ? | 11:44 |
| whiprush | don't know. | 11:44 |
| Burgundavia | who is working on it? | 11:44 |
| whiprush | maybe I should bug jdub about it more. | 11:44 |
| ajmitch | whiprush: nothign wrong with fridge jokes :) | 11:44 |
| whiprush | Burgundavia: I'm a second on it on the spec. | 11:45 |
| ajmitch | \sh: amazing work on the merges :) | 11:45 |
| siretart | absolutley | 11:45 |
| whiprush | but last I heard we were waiting on art or something. | 11:45 |
| \sh | actually I have to think about my mental state...eating at this time at night is not good | 11:45 |
| whiprush | but that was over a month ago. | 11:45 |
| SloMo_ | \sh: don't worry... i'm eating a pizza atm :) | 11:45 |
| siretart | \sh: depends on what you're gonna eat. Midnight snacks are great :) | 11:45 |
| ajmitch | \sh: it's not that late there | 11:45 |
| siretart | ajmitch: in .au? haha :) | 11:46 |
| herve | yes, you're just having breakfast with ajmitch :-) | 11:46 |
| \sh | actually...it's a mixture of kidney beans, tabasco, sliced sausages | 11:46 |
| \sh | quick hack | 11:46 |
| Burgundavia | whiprush, who is lead? | 11:47 |
| \sh | just a patch for my stomach | 11:47 |
| SloMo_ | \sh: sounds nice :) | 11:47 |
| siretart | \sh: I will have to look at the other package tomorrow, I definitly need some sleep now. sorry | 11:48 |
| ajmitch | siretart: what has .au got to do with anything? :) | 11:48 |
| \sh | yeah...taste as well...wonder | 11:48 |
| siretart | ajmitch: the time, ;) | 11:48 |
| \sh | siretart: no prob...I saw ire is also ftbfsing again on amd64... | 11:48 |
| siretart | timezone, even | 11:49 |
| siretart | \sh: if you want to look some obscure stuff, look at xmms-jack, and my patches. I converted the packages to dpatch, btw | 11:49 |
| whiprush | Burgundavia: jdub | 11:49 |
| siretart | I have no idea why it could be build on i386 at all | 11:49 |
| Burgundavia | whiprush, ah, ok | 11:49 |
| \sh | siretart: I will :) I want to know the hidden secrets of amd64 | 11:50 |
| whiprush | maybe he's overtasked. | 11:50 |
| whiprush | maybe we're supposed to Just Do It(tm) | 11:50 |
| ajmitch | siretart: well, it's about 8am in eastern .au :) | 11:50 |
| === ajmitch is only 2 hrs TZ different from there | ||
| siretart | ajmitch: hui. its 23:50 here, and I'm off for bed now :) | 11:50 |
| siretart | gn8 folks! | 11:50 |
| ajmitch | night | 11:51 |
| herve | night | 11:51 |
| SloMo_ | gn8 | 11:51 |
| === ajmitch tries to get this zope merge in place :) | ||
| Burgundavia | whiprush, I would take the lead and start bugging AndyFitz. He is the one that needs to get the art to you | 11:52 |
| whiprush | hmmm, good idea. | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | silly postinst should be removed, in favour of a debhelper one | 11:52 |
| Lathiat | hrm, anyone know what the current state of X in breezy is | 11:52 |
| Burgundavia | Lathiat, depends on your system | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | Lathiat: probably broken as ever | 11:52 |
| Lathiat | i am currently back on hoary and wondering if an upgrade is a worse idea than bad | 11:52 |
| herve | ajmitch, yes it should | 11:53 |
| Lathiat | before my xkb was broken, fonts were screwed but somewhat working, otherwise working | 11:53 |
| Lathiat | any change on that? | 11:53 |
| \sh | Lathiat: x is broken.... | 11:53 |
| \sh | Lathiat: use xmodmap + xkeycaps...I think the trick came from comadreja | 11:53 |
| Lathiat | well, my keyboard was usable, just shortcuts and ctrl+alt+f1 wouldnt work, and i couldnt change my font dpi | 11:54 |
| Lathiat | maybe i'll install breezy on a seocnd partition and wait till next week | 11:54 |
| Lathiat | so i can at least get some work done :) | 11:54 |
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| \sh | damn | 12:00 |
| \sh | I'm stupid | 12:00 |
| === ajmitch is also | ||
| ajmitch | forgot to re-remove the postinst in a zope package I merged :) | 12:01 |
| \sh | and I blown away some ashes from my cigarette..which was burning...I don't find it...*grmpf* | 12:02 |
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