=== poningru [~poningru@pool-70-110-66-96.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Unfrgiven [~ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:39] good morning all [12:39] hi Unfrgiven [12:40] can you please do me a favor [12:40] tseng: yeah sure [12:40] hi Unfrgiven [12:41] find the BreezyGoals page and update status for devdocs [12:41] tseng: can you look at my wavpack upload in revu? ;) this will give us a gstreamer plugin for wavpack [12:41] tseng: will do :) [12:41] ive been getting nags about it [12:41] thanks :) [12:41] ajmitch: gday [12:41] SloMo_: ok [12:42] Hello Unfrgiven [12:42] ive had a busy couple of weeks... first i was at auckland, then off to brisbane for a friend's wedding and then was quite sick for like a week and a half [12:42] SloMo_: reason you are patching ac? [12:42] SloMo_: had to retool? [12:42] I hate users. [12:42] tseng: yes... otherwise i have to call autoreconf in rules ;) [12:42] Amaranth: Don't we all? :-) [12:43] Which of course mean I hate myself :-) [12:43] SloMo_: yeah its a contained patch. not bad if you had to do it :) [12:43] "w32codecs isn't illegal! WINE is copying DLLs from Windows! w32codecs is needed, don't tell us we can't talk about it! don't diss ubuntuguide if you don't have a replacement that does the same thing!" [12:44] SloMo_: did you build in pbuilder? the build deps look a bit slim [12:44] tseng: but this is something for universe i think... licence is bsd-style [12:44] tseng: yes it built in breezy pbuilder [12:44] yep, definately universe [12:44] k [12:44] Amaranth: Take a break from #ubuntu ;-) [12:45] tseng: can we have the gst plugin in gst-plugins-multiverse or is it a case for the normal gst-plugins package? [12:45] bddebian: I'm supposed to be running the channel. :) [12:45] Oh well that wouldnt be good then :-) [12:45] SloMo_: it can be in in the multiverse one isnt bad === Amaranth needs to get a CC decision on whether or not discussion of w32codecs should be allowed. [12:45] SloMo_: we need multiverse for the other ones.. faad and faac [12:45] and lame [12:46] yes i know... and a -universe package seems overkill just for one plugin ;) [12:46] it would be silly to break off and do a universe one too i think [12:46] yeah [12:46] you are tapped into my brain [12:46] packaging looks pretty clean [12:47] Amaranth: it usually helps if you deop yourself. Then people don't pound you with questions. [12:47] crimsun: The second I do they act like children. :/ [12:47] and don't forget that tritium and I are also present if things get out of hand [12:48] anyone who is still in #ubuntu is a champion [12:48] Heh [12:48] tseng: why? ;) [12:48] becauses its loaded full of clue resistant people === bddebian should be there for NuN but has been busy with MOTUToMerge.. :-( [12:49] wth is my login [12:49] crap [12:51] Damn, 3 shy of 15 packages goal.. [12:51] siretart: ping? === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-124-17.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] i guess im not commenting on that today [12:53] oh there it is [12:53] rock out [12:54] tseng: you've uploaded pitfdll? is this usefull for something without w32codecs? [12:54] done and done [12:55] SloMo_: yes, and no [12:55] seb really wanted it [12:55] and it doesnt directly depend on w32codecs [12:55] hmm [12:55] its just a loader :) [12:56] in the future, fluendo is seeking to legally lisence codecs [12:56] to end users [12:56] like mp3 and dvd especially [12:56] on top of gstreamer [12:56] hmm... but this wouldn't allow us to distribute them [12:56] not in the current system [12:57] but we would definately look at being a distribution channel for them [12:57] somehow [12:57] we talked about this at UDU, but its still somewhere off in the future [12:57] we will see :) [12:57] yes... and it would be easier for everybody to use pitfdll this way... now one just has to copy the dlls somewhere and everything works [12:58] i would totally pay for good unencumbered dvd support etc [12:58] and support fluendo === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] yeah that would be fine... even if i don't like the laws which render libdvdcss illegal ;) [01:09] even better if they manage great support for wmv/rma [01:09] and quicktime [01:10] w/o all this encumbered, horribly hackish stuff [01:10] yeah... but do you think ms will licence wmv/wma to them? [01:10] just plug into my gstreamer :) [01:10] if they come up with the cash i dont see why not [01:10] they are on a big push to lisence to portable music players [01:10] why not linux [01:10] it might not fit well with their drm plans [01:11] eh the plugin can support the drm [01:11] and might not fit well with their windows world domination plans ;) [01:11] i support drm decoders much more than buying drm music [01:12] there is alot of content out there in wmv [01:14] hm oops [01:14] should have put Arch: in pitfdll to i386 only [01:14] it has wine libs [01:14] hehe === tseng wonders what happened to evolution-sharp build [01:16] buildd not up to date or something [01:16] When to buildds run? [01:17] wanna-build looks for new packages every 5 minutes iirc [01:17] and sends them to the next open buildd [01:17] we have an insane ammount of buildd processing power so it usually doesnt take long [01:17] Hmm, I should check on octave then [01:19] Uhm there ain't much on http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/buildlogs/ [01:19] oh so thats where that is [01:20] http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/ is the "real deal" [01:22] Does *-successful.gz mean I'm golden? === AstralJava [~jaska@cm-062-241-217-117.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:24] yes [01:24] nice work [01:25] kick ass. Thanks tseng [01:25] np [01:27] bddebian: got licq working? [01:28] ajmitch: Nope, that's YOUR job :-) [01:28] ajmitch: j/k. I don't know exactly how you fixed the kde-gui thing that gets generated?? [01:29] simple, the patch gets applied before qt-gui is copied to kde-gui [01:29] I'll see if I have the patch up.. [01:31] http://ajmitch.dhis.org/debuild/tmp/licq-1.3.0/debian/patches/45_licq-gcc40-ftbfs.dpatch [01:33] Hmm, how is that different than mine after ripping out the kde-gui part? :'-( [01:34] mine applied cleanly [01:34] make sure you start with fresh source, use dpatch-edit-patch [01:34] and add it to 00list [01:34] and it works [01:35] I hate you. ;-P [01:39] bddebian: Does *-successful.gz mean I'm golden? [01:39] no [01:39] it means you're probably golden [01:39] if debian/rules or your makefile ignores errors, well..... [01:39] Doh [01:39] lamont, the bubble-buster [01:39] Well it isn't exaclty "MY" makefiles :-) === jamessan|laptop [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === j_fletcher [~james@nukeh.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === REINOSOMASTER [reinosogn@200.97.39.107] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-065-080.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] lamont: So how do I check if it really worked? [02:59] bddebian: you read the log file and make sure it did what you wanted it to do. [02:59] or you cross your fingers and hope that it's not a crackful makefile [03:00] Heh. OK, thx === Amaranth [travis@ip68-96-139-61.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === REINOSOMASTER [reinosogn@200.97.39.107] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jaldhar [~jaldhar@pcp09354467pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] Anyone have an idea on this one: "make: execvp: ./configure: Permission denied" in a pbuilder? [04:04] <\sh> morning === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax9-116.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:11] Heya \sh [04:12] \sh: Got a clue on that error above you? [04:12] <\sh> what error? what clue? I just got up after 4 hours of sleep [04:12] Oh, nm :-) [04:13] <\sh> come on tell me .) [04:13] Anyone have an idea on this one: "make: execvp: ./configure: Permission denied" in a pbuilder? [04:13] I get that building oroborus [04:15] <\sh> hmmmm [04:15] <\sh> u tried chmod 755? [04:15] And what is this about renaming yehia prior to building? [04:16] <\sh> the libs must be renamed accordingly to the cxx transition rules [04:16] Ohh, sorry I though you meant the package itself :-) [04:16] <\sh> bddebian: yes that it is the fact ,-) [04:17] tseng, thanks for fixing blam [04:19] Burgundavia: np [04:20] Boy, how fscking weak am I.. :-( [04:21] <\sh> bddebian: if the buildd is saying: package X is compiled very successfull, why don't u close the bug in bzilla? ,-) [04:21] <\sh> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/o/octave2.1/2.1.71-2ubuntu2/ [04:21] \sh: Can I close bugs? [04:21] <\sh> u rock [04:21] <\sh> bddebian: can't you? didn't u have editbug rights? you should close them as well... [04:22] <\sh> anyways...I did it :) [04:23] I have editbug rights but I didn't know if I could close them :-) [04:23] \sh: BTW, chmod fixed it. How st00pid am I? :'-( [04:26] Oh and lamont says I can't cheer unless I see that it "really" works. And I can't open those damn buildlogs :-( [04:27] <\sh> well..first step: it builds second step: the users are not complaining *lol* [04:27] Hmm [04:27] <\sh> third step: you're always on the wrong side ,-) [04:31] heh [04:34] users always complain :) [04:34] That's what makes us (l)users :-) [04:36] At least 2 more packages to go... === quad [~quad@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] anyone else having trouble with networking + breezy [04:40] <\sh> pppoe is working here... [04:40] <\sh> and dhcp was working until friday afternoon just before I left the company... [04:40] quad: perhaps you could discribe the problem you're seeing [04:41] \shyeah basically [04:41] sladen.... it can't get a lease on the ip [04:41] not sure why [04:41] or how to describe it [04:41] sladen: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51242 [04:42] try: sudo killall -9 dhclient[tab] [04:42] someone else had it and fixed it like that [04:42] sudo dhclient[tab] eth0 [04:42] sladen: i tried killing it [04:42] and restarting [04:45] \sh: you having the same problem? [04:46] <\sh> quad: no..as I said, i can't try out dhcp after I'm in the company...so that will be after my kdevelop3 build try [04:46] haha [04:46] ohh [04:49] \sh: You mean you STILL haven't fixed kdevelop3? === bddebian hides [04:49] <\sh> bddebian: riddell had to fix the main kde stuff first...cause of missing libXcursor.la [04:50] Sure sure, make excuses. ;-P [04:50] <\sh> *gg* [04:50] <\sh> but if you want, fix kwaves asm issue on amd64 [04:51] Uhm yeah sure, that's next on my list.. ;-) [04:51] One more package an I may attempt your yehia though, just for a change of pace :-) [04:52] <\sh> bddebian: leave yehia alone I just patched 3 issues in that :) so the last "void" thingie i will get also fixed ,-) [04:52] Gah [04:54] Well then, I guess I'll just keep nailing the "low-hanging fruit" :-) [04:54] <\sh> yay...it's 5 o'clock [04:54] <\sh> in 6 mins [04:57] <\sh> what a nice morning...coffee, music from status quo...and 2 pbuilder running... [05:00] You're a sick d00d \sh :-) [05:00] <\sh> exactly [05:00] <\sh> but I don't care *harhar* [05:02] <\sh> bddebian: update your pbuilder :) [05:02] <\sh> u missed half of the build-deps in terminator-x [05:03] <\sh> and some infos about kde stuff [05:03] \sh: ??? [05:03] <\sh> it looks like to get rid of missing libXcursor.la u have to do the make -f admin/Makefile.common dance [05:03] <\sh> bddebian: libxxf86dga-dev was missing [05:04] <\sh> libjack-dev is not existing..libjack0.80.0-dev is correct [05:05] <\sh> or I'm still sleeping.... [05:05] \sh: It hadlibjack0.100.0 which we don't have. libjack-dev psuedo's libjack0.80.0 doesn't it? [05:05] hey nice to see you're still awake :) [05:05] <\sh> no :) [05:05] I've been sleeping the whole day. [05:05] <\sh> comadreja: lol...awake as in "ghost" ,-) [05:06] :D [05:06] <\sh> bddebian: my pbuilder was saying: libjack-dev is not correct..anyhow..lets see if it builds [05:06] \sh: If I do apt-get install libjack-dev I get libjack0.80.0 [05:07] don't use libjack-dev as a b-d [05:07] <\sh> yeah [05:07] what is a b-d ? [05:07] <\sh> i used libjack0.80.0-dev as build-dep [05:07] I see :) [05:07] me too [05:08] crimsun: Why? [05:08] <\sh> it's a virtual package referencing libjack0.100.0 [05:08] bddebian: you've already seen why. [05:08] \sh: Not in everything I do [05:08] WTF [05:09] crimsun: No I haven't. Using libjack-dev works fine. libjack0.100.0 pukes because we ain't got it. What am I missing here gents? [05:09] <\sh> doesn't matter...I fixed it :) uploaded [05:10] bddebian: it's the way shared libs allowing parallel installs of multiple versions work [05:10] bddebian: you should b-d on the specific version of -dev if you want to also allow other lib versions [05:10] Uhm, can you dumb that answer down for me a little? :-) [05:11] imagine libFooA is parallel-installable with libFooB, but libFoo-dev has multiple targets [05:11] if you want to build against libFooB-dev, you should put libFooB-dev in the B-D [05:12] <\sh> oh no [05:12] <\sh> not again [05:12] (allowing backporting requires another strategy, but that's another story) [05:12] <\sh> clean: configure *grrr* [05:12] timestamp skew? [05:12] crimsun: OK gotcha [05:12] or the infamous autotools screw? [05:13] <\sh> no...those people are configuring the source in the clean target to get make distclean working [05:13] <\sh> nasty shit [05:13] eww [05:14] <\sh> much better...make distclean will trigger ./configure run *shiver* [05:14] <\sh> i won't fix it [05:14] <\sh> too crappy this morning [05:16] <\sh> and this is really interessting [05:16] <\sh> classviewwidget.cpp:1067: error: redefinition of 'void ClassViewWidget::slotCreateAccessMethods()' [05:16] <\sh> classviewwidget.cpp:1053: error: 'void ClassViewWidget::slotCreateAccessMethods()' previously defined here [05:17] <\sh> this error i didn't have before the kde main update *strange* [05:19] <\sh> and I wonder why I always write: Brian DeFreese... [05:19] <\sh> bddebian: please rename yourself *lol* [05:20] Egads, please call me asshole before Brian. That is my brothers name :-) [05:20] <\sh> bddebian: no..really? [05:20] Yes [05:21] <\sh> ah come on u jocking [05:21] <\sh> joking even [05:21] Nope. [05:21] <\sh> my sisters name is stephanie..also not a very nice name :) [05:21] Oh, the name Brian is OK, just my brother that is not. ;-) [05:22] <\sh> lol [05:22] <\sh> oh I'm really mentally ill..."Rick Astley" [05:22] afternoon all [05:23] <\sh> hey ajmitch [05:23] hello ajmitch [05:23] Heya ajmitch === ajmitch is glad that the demo of his code went ok today :) [05:24] <\sh> congrats [05:24] coding overnight seems to have paid off ;) [05:24] Heh [05:24] nice, ajmitch :) [05:24] just a number of annoying bugs that had to be squashed === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] <\sh> hmm... === ajmitch sees the pics of vi & emacs on p.d.o :) [05:29] <\sh> hmmm.. [05:29] cats? [05:29] <\sh> kittens :) [05:29] <\sh> sweet [05:29] yeah [05:31] <\sh> damn [05:31] <\sh> I have to patch rezound again [05:33] bddebian, you sure wouldn't have missed West Lafayette today. It was 97, but the heat index was 115 [05:34] Well it wasn't exaclty cool here either :-) [05:35] you're right. I'm glad I've been at work for most of the day, since it's a balmy 72F. [05:35] dang, had to work a Sunday? [05:36] unfortunately. Our team has a presentation to management tomorrow at noon. [05:36] Oh, I see. [05:37] "plz justify why we are spending $lots kthx" [05:37] <\sh> patch no. 5 for rezound :( [05:37] ah, one of those... === StoneTable [~stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:44] Ohh mkfontdir: command not found.. :-( [05:44] <\sh> yes [05:45] yes what? [05:45] <\sh> bddebian: and please leave the version number from MoM...so do a dch -a instead of dch -i [05:46] Oh sure NOW you tell me :-) [05:46] Do I even need to bother with modifying the changelog? [05:46] <\sh> hmm... [05:46] (no) [05:46] (unless something _drastic_ was necessary) [05:46] Oh and what should mkfontdir come from? [05:47] <\sh> xutils [05:47] Ahh, and that's b0rked still? [05:47] <\sh> but we're w8ing for daniels [05:47] <\sh> yes [05:47] <\sh> same applies to xmkmf === bddebian keeps getting little bits of information at a time :-) [05:47] <\sh> MoM mentioned versions are not in the archives.... [05:48] <\sh> means, those are the proposed new ubuntu version numbers [05:49] <\sh> if there is a merge from libapt-pkg-perl_0.1.15 <- debian version then our merge is libapt-pkg-perl_0.1.15ubuntu1 <- new ubuntu version not in the archive === bddebian shoots himself [05:49] <\sh> bddebian: please write everthing down and put it on a wikipage ;) [05:49] \sh: ?? [05:50] <\sh> bddebian: put it on wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUStartersGuide ,-) [05:50] <\sh> forget it...just joking [05:51] \sh: Actually that is a good idea [05:53] <\sh> I know ;) [05:54] Damn, do broken apps count towards my 15 goal? :-) [05:59] <\sh> ok..last coffee...before i hit the shower === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:04] good night :) [06:04] <\sh> 1 liter of coffee in my system..this isn't a good start for the day [06:04] <\sh> hey tritium good morning [06:05] \sh, good morning to you :) [06:05] wb tritium :) [06:05] bddebian, thanks, and good night! === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:12] <\sh> hitting the shower [06:13] Enjoy ;-) [06:26] <\sh> nice... [06:26] <\sh> refreshing [06:26] :-) [06:27] <\sh> and now 30 mins left to go to a bakery and get some food [06:28] <\sh> yeah I fixed rezound [06:28] great :) [06:28] Damn there are still a ton of merges on bugzilla.. :'-( === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:33] <\sh> bddebian: peanuts [06:33] peanuts? [06:34] <\sh> in germany this is a word for "it's nothing" [06:34] Same in US. Just still think you're crazy :-) [06:35] Especially if I keep doubling your work. ;-P [06:42] OK, time for bed before the wife disowns me. Gnight folks. [06:42] cya [06:44] <\sh> cu bddebian sleep well :) and greetings to your wife ,-) [06:44] Heh, thx [06:45] \sh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposalForABetterQAForUbuntu <-- what should I do with this page? [06:45] <\sh> burn it [06:46] <\sh> pls .) [06:46] \sh, old stuff we archive [06:46] <\sh> no..I just wanted to delete it... [06:47] \sh, we should keep it, if someone wants to refer to it later [06:47] <\sh> ok...keep it then... [06:48] <\sh> but can u mark it as obsolete? [06:48] yes [06:48] I am going to send a mail to the -devel list explaining the CategoryArchive === Panzerboy [~NoName@panzerboy.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:57] <\sh> ok..time to leave home ... laters gentlemen === thoreauputic_ [~prospero@wolax7-142.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu === comadreja [~comadreja@80.224.108.186] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:35] <\sh> re === MagnusR [~magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [~blackbird@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax7-142.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [09:07] \sh, the past tense of build, is built. [09:08] <\sh> right [09:08] <\sh> but my grammar is terrible since the beginning ;) [09:09] so when you file those one line closers, it would be "built" [09:11] <\sh> Burgundavia: I'll save it into my longtime memory :) [09:12] longterm [09:13] <\sh> yes [09:13] <\sh> saved === JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [~chrys@dsl-084-056-099-133.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [~Mez@82.13.236.115] has joined #ubuntu-motu === comadreja [~comadreja@comadreja.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:07] morning, motus! [11:08] morning :) [11:12] wtf? \sh is uploading stuff since 4:30am?! ROCK!! [11:14] <\sh> sure [11:15] <\sh> and I fixed rezound this morning [11:16] <\sh> and infinity send me to bed [11:16] <\sh> just like my mom in early days ,-) [11:16] \sh: you are unbelivable! ROCK!! [11:17] <\sh> siretart: no mental ill is the correct description ,-) [11:17] hail \sh the future of MOTU :) [11:18] <\sh> i have to fix kdevelop... [11:18] I'd also love to do more motu stuff, but my Studienarbeit has to be finished in exactly 1 week :( [11:18] <\sh> siretart: u and dholbachs prio is university...and finish it... [11:18] espc. when I read news like this: http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2005/8428.html (sorry, german) [11:19] aye [11:20] I think they are 'just' waiting for reviews of their packages for inclusion in universe :( [11:20] <\sh> jesus crap [11:48] hey [11:49] whats peoples opinions on conary? [11:53] <\sh> *grmpf* brb [11:53] Its used in foresight linux === rem_ [~rem@adsl-169-48-bs1.datacomm.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _Firetech [~Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p5089DA0D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-077-171.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] good morning :) [12:59] hi slomo [01:04] hello ubuntu people! [01:04] is there some kind of wnpp for ubuntu? === mort_ is now known as mort [01:05] yes [01:05] URL? [01:06] mort: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSuggestedPackages [01:06] JRe: cool, thanks [01:07] Riddell: mmm we should remove abaKus and Kasablanca from SuggestedPackages. Should i ? [01:07] JRe: sure, probably various that need speaned up there [01:07] although neither abakus nor kasablanca are in yet I think [01:11] Riddell: i have moved them to currenlty beeing worked on [01:11] JRe: can you add icecream to that page [01:11] Riddell: it's same for kio-apt and kiosktool no ? [01:12] Riddell: sure [01:12] it is [01:12] I asked because I want to take webCDWriter into debian. the upstream guy has a package for ubuntu(http://joerghaeger.de/webCDwriter/debian.html) but doesn't seem to have had any communication with ubuntu === ogra [~ogra@p5089DA0D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] mort: The package webcdwriter_2.7.1-1_i386.deb was built on Ubuntu Linux 5.04. [01:16] mort: you're sure it's a debian package? [01:17] JRe: It's a ubuntu package, I was just looking for some feedback he received so I could improve it [01:18] mort: ho it's Java! so better to add it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates [01:19] JRe: I could... but I'm not interested seeing it in ubuntu, I don't even run it! [01:19] mort, you can improve it ;) make it compile cleanly with gcj which is in the default install now [01:20] mort: mmm seems to be usefull! [01:21] ogra: what bugs me much more is the missing depends. it _needs_ java and cdrecord to run but doesn't depend on it at all [01:21] thats bad... === havoc [~havoc@CPE-24-167-241-63.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:22] JRe: it is useful! that way people who burn seldom can use some else's cd writer without needing to buy one === HostingGeek is now known as Mircosoft === jamessan|work [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [~infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thesaltydog [~yoshi@80.23.61.194] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DanielN`aw [~daniel@84-72-116-21.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:55] howdy DanielN`aw === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jbailey [~jbailey@24.203.249.139] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mantas [~mantas@193.219.181.179] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mantas [~mantas@193.219.181.179] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === mgalvin [~mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rem_ [~rem@adsl-169-48-bs1.datacomm.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] tseng: your tomboy upload is missing the patch i've added to bugzilla and has failed building because of that :( [03:33] tseng: oh no... it has failed because of something else... never mind... === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@info1-65.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] slomo: i see [03:34] slomo: the debian maintainer intentionally dropped that patch when he merged with ubuntu [03:35] slomo: erm, *you* added a patch to tomboy? [03:35] i do not recall this [03:35] tseng: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/attachment.cgi?id=3053 [03:35] oh [03:35] i suck [03:35] debian has a different name for libdbus-cil [03:35] tseng: the workaround with uint [03:35] we have libdbus-1-cil [03:36] um ok [03:36] can you talk to me tonight [03:36] i am at work [03:36] ok, np :) [04:04] Is a signature from a DD considered good enough for MOTU application? [04:04] (and uploading?) [04:06] can you get a path to ogra's key? [04:07] http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/ === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:07] yo [04:07] zul: [04:07] can you get a path to ogra's key? [04:07] http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/ [04:08] just need to figure out what ogra's key is :) [04:08] hehe [04:08] (zul's been doing a pile of work with fabionne and the Ubuntu kernels) [04:08] since you ping me all the time... === Mircosoft is now known as HostingGeek [04:08] i thought i was already accepted as a motu [04:08] A2D06936 [04:08] zul: Dunno. If not, what's Fabio talking about then? [04:09] hmmm...not there [04:09] zul, err, arnet you uploading already since ages ? [04:09] never uploaded all my patches for kernel and stuff has gone though fabio [04:10] oh === ogra thinks he remembers zul becoming a MOTU once [04:10] yeah so do i ;) === lamont__ [~lamont@15.238.5.154] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:14] ogra: i think it was like a week after tseng [04:15] yep [04:15] and i remember sending an email to mako saying that willy signed my key [04:15] just never uploaded anything [04:16] oh, do it then.... [04:16] <\sh> re === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-064-033.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:20] <\sh> hmm...anyone using actual xkbconfig bla and has a working keyboard layout? === retrix [~sam@ppp202-51.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio [~tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] hi everyone [04:46] I'm juste subscrbing as an uploader, but didn't found the url to upload my public key..... [04:47] can someone help me on that point ? === bddebian [~bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] Hello [04:50] \sh I just upgraded and keyboard still doesn't work here [04:50] \sh same problem [04:50] <\sh> ok..:) [04:50] <\sh> after xorgconf? [04:50] nopes, I haven't done that === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-18.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:51] how's that ? [04:51] Heya tritium [04:51] <\sh> hmmm..ok..I will test later...right now I'm trying to fix some other packages and upload [04:51] hello bddebian [04:51] \sh: Thanks for uploading all of those! :-) [04:52] Tonio: I ment uploading to public keyservers ;) - if your ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf is correct, you can upload your key with gpg --send-keys [04:52] okay, not very familiar with encryption and keys at this time ;) [04:53] any public keyserver is possible ? [04:54] yes, the big ones are exchanging keys [04:54] okay, sorry for the confusion ;) === siretart is using sks.keyserver.penguin.de as keyserver, but I heard keyserver.ubuntu.com was also operative [04:54] gpg: success sending to `wwwkeys.pgp.net' (status=200) [04:55] should be okay [04:55] <\sh> bddebian: np [04:55] jepp. Now I would have been able to retreive it myself ;) [04:59] hi, i just did a sudo pbuilder create to test a package, is there anything special i have to do to use ubuntu repositories? [04:59] i notice it seems to be using sid [05:00] <\sh> retrix: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto [05:00] <\sh> there is the magic described [05:00] \sh, thanks i just found it as you wrote that :) [05:00] \sh: Shall I continue or am I causing more work than I'm helping?? :) [05:02] <\sh> bddebian: do whatever you can... [05:02] concerning pbuilder, if that can help people here I have done a scripts that completly automates the packaging... [05:02] you are just prompt to give email, desc etc, and then all steps are done automaticly... [05:03] even adding/remove packages to the chroot is possible [05:03] if that can help... [05:03] <\sh> Tonio: can u write a wiki page to it? [05:03] maybe yes [05:03] <\sh> make it a subpage to PbuilderHowto [05:04] <\sh> would be great [05:04] Tonio, is your key signed already ? [05:04] not at this time, cause a lot of things to do, but I will ;) [05:04] ogra, yes [05:04] great :) [05:04] you mean ? uploaded ? [05:05] \sh the only thing is that it is not sh or even perl, but php-cli script [05:05] <\sh> ug [05:05] don't ask me why but I really hate perl ;)= [05:05] <\sh> can we convert it to plain bash? [05:05] so I do everything with php [05:05] <\sh> or python [05:05] why convert it ? [05:05] \sh: My question was more, is it helping? :-) [05:05] Tonio, nope, i mean signed by someone else you met i person... [05:06] juste install php-cli and then it works like perl [05:06] <\sh> bddebian: sure :) everything helps dude :) [05:06] Tonio, thats a requirement [05:06] <\sh> Tonio: well..actually nobody installs php-cli ;) [05:06] you can put the script in /usr/bin and type the script name.... [05:06] <\sh> even not a php dev like me for cli work ;) [05:06] \sh hehehe I know ;) but I love php [05:06] what is php-cli ? [05:06] <\sh> sh, perl, python ;) [05:07] ogra, no I dndn't perofm that step.... [05:07] <\sh> php-cli is php interpreter for commandline [05:07] heh, there are funny things in this world :) [05:07] is there a wiki explaining all of this ? cause I'm not very confortable and surely newbie with using keys.... [05:07] Tonio, you'll need a valid signature ... [05:08] how to get it ? [05:08] Tonio, go to a keyigning party anywhere near you or find someone through biglumber.com to sign your key [05:08] okay [05:08] you need to meet in person.... [05:08] keysigning is fun [05:08] the signature makes your key valid... [05:08] You mean we can't use invalid signatures? ;-P [05:09] bddebian: we have to recognize the signers [05:09] bddebian, trying to fall back into the joking corner ? i thought you meved on to being MOTU :-p [05:09] tseng: I was kidding.. Sheesh.. :-) [05:09] <\sh> sorry...when I'm a bit harsh today :( the body of my grandma died this morning around 11 o'clock...and now I understand why I was up so early this morning [05:09] people were making fun of my handwritten passport during UDU [05:09] ogra: Oh if I become an MOTU I can't joke anymore? [05:09] moved even [05:09] bddebian: not funny. [05:10] \sh: sorry to hear about that, read it on your blog... [05:10] bddebian, we'll discuss it at the next MOTUMeeting *g* === bddebian knows nothing about MOTUMeeting [05:10] <\sh> jsgotangco: well...actually my father reported she's going to die, at this day...today it was the end..actually it was the best [05:11] bddebian, its the one with the many topics: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMeeting [05:12] ogra: Uhm, I don't see any agenda items on MOTUMeeting? [05:13] bddebian, thats what i meant :) [05:14] ogra just in case I'm not that stupid... How to contact them for the key signing ? Joining the key to an email and wait ? [05:15] Tonio: You need to meet face to face with people to get your key signed typically [05:15] face to face ? you mean, IRL ????????? [05:15] Tonio, nope, you need to meed in person [05:15] Tonio: Yes [05:15] <\sh> argl..i need xmkmf [05:15] Tonio: aye, that's the fun with keysigning... [05:15] Tonio, email isnt enough to make it trustable [05:15] damn........................ [05:15] Tonio: The person needs to be able to validate you are who you are [05:16] Tonio: you get to mess around with people's mugshots... [05:16] Tonio: and usually that is via a passport, drivers-license, some type of official identification [05:16] so the validating guys spend they time meeting people ? that's horrible lol [05:16] Tonio, keysigning means each of you shows your ID card and verifys that the key is really yours... its your identity like a signature in real life [05:16] Tonio: you can't completely trust someone you haven't met face to face... [05:17] Tonio: No, no. Once you have your key signed by someone in the web of trust, validation is fairly straightforward. [05:17] I can understand that yes, but it's gonna take a while, certainly, I'm not ready to upload those packages ;) [05:17] So I have to send an email to one of those personns and say I need a keysigning so I'd like the meet him.... === bddebian adds "Get a sense of humor" to MOTUMeeting agenda then runs away [05:18] Tonio, after you have a key you can apply for becoming a ubuntu memeer... onyl after that you can become a MOTU and get upload rights [05:18] bddebian, you will have to hold a talk about it then ;) [05:19] s/memeer/member [05:19] I'll do, no pb, I was just dissapointed because I didn't knew that kind of process at all.... [05:19] <\sh> hmmm...3 pbuilder is not good for my laptop [05:19] ogra: Nah, I will keep my mouth shut since I already annoy tseng and crimsun [05:19] \sh, you said that yesterday already... still no additional HW ? [05:19] <\sh> no [05:19] \sh: more than one is silly unless you have an SMP laptop [05:20] <\sh> lamont__: I have time ;-) [05:20] Tonio: sure it's a challenge, but there's a sense of accomplishment and connection with people once you've done it [05:20] \sh: Maybe I should fire up my old Dual P2 450Mhz Compaq proliant for ya? ;-) [05:20] once the connection is there, everything is quite easy.. [05:20] jsgotangco: agree ;) [05:20] <\sh> Riddell made me the offer to use his fast server ;) [05:20] Ahh === jsgotangco still has a dual PPro HP server at home.. [05:21] \sh: 3 in series will execute faster than 3 in parallel on a UP machine [05:22] jsgotangco: will he need me to come with the key, or will he find it uploaded on the keyserver [05:22] <\sh> lamont__: too late...only 2 running now ,-) [05:22] <\sh> 3rd one finished and uploaded [05:22] <\sh> but I need a working X .. more likely [05:23] Tonio: Just print out your fingerprint [05:23] <\sh> xmkmf is holding 2 packs...kdebase is w8ing for rebuild [05:23] <\sh> gnagna [05:23] <\sh> dia --export-to-format=png-libart --export=chat-bind.dia.png.tmp chat-bind.dia [05:23] <\sh> and this is ugly< [05:23] bddebian: okay, let me translate in french, lol I don't know what is fingerprint... [05:26] Tonio: you might find this handy http://www.cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/gpg-party.html [05:27] Tonio: "gpg --fingerprint [05:27] " [05:28] thanks ;) [05:30] <\sh> uga [05:30] <\sh> what crap [05:31] <\sh> anyone have time to ldaptor? [05:34] \sh: Time to what? [05:34] <\sh> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10503 [05:34] <\sh> try to build and fix ;) [05:35] <\sh> actually give me a hint what it does. === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:35] \sh: Hey, this is assigned to you, it's your problem. ;-P [05:36] Oops, sorry, I joked again.. :-( [05:36] <\sh> I know :) [05:42] Just a little question, because siretart explained to me that I could upload to REVU without a signed key, what is the differences between the two process ? [05:42] Tonio: REVU are packages that need to be reviewed by an MOTU [05:43] Tonio: MOTU uploads go directly to the build process and archive === ogra_ [~ogra@p5089F37E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:43] lol okay, that's clear now. [05:43] so I'll start with revu and then maybe on of those days motu when my key is signed. [05:44] Tonio: exactly. REVU is just a platform for making the reviewing for MOTUS more easy [05:44] Tonio: Well to clear up a little. REVU is only for packages that we don't currently have in the archive (as far as I understand it anyway). If you are fixing and existing package then you need to put them on bugzilla or launchpad [05:45] But don't quote me, I'm st00pid :-) === ozamosi [~ozamosi@80.252.185.147] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:47] <\sh> bddebian: forget ldaptor...I fixed it [05:47] <\sh> or better workaround it [05:48] Damn man, you are too fast :-) === bddebian crawls back to his hole === slomo gets back to work on MOTUToMerge... enough java for today ;) [05:49] <\sh> bddebian: No..I'm just a bit frustrated [05:49] \sh: about what? [05:49] <\sh> siretart: my grandma was dieing...and today her body died [05:50] \sh: oh :( - I'm sorry for you.. [05:51] <\sh> my father called me a couple of days ago, that she will go in a couple of hours, days...and I found myself this morning sitting at 4am in front of the computer...think I knew already that today will happen somethin [05:51] <\sh> g [05:51] :( [05:53] <\sh> so I left work..and went to bed..not to think about all this..dreamed again..and now I'm just working,..not to think of anything else [05:53] <\sh> bddebian: actually I'm human :) [05:54] <\sh> and not a machine ;) [05:55] <\sh> and yes [05:55] <\sh> linephone for i386, amd64, ppc [05:55] rock! [05:55] \sh: Sorry to hear that. :-( === HostingGeek is now known as SCOGroup [05:57] <\sh> bddebian: that's the way life goes...ups and downs.. [05:58] :P === bddebian kicks SCOGroup [05:58] OK, meeting time.. :-( [05:58] what the hehe === susus [~sz@80.137.243.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:59] bddebian: meeting? [05:59] Work :-( [05:59] ah ok. hf [05:59] :( === SCOGroup is now known as scogroup [06:03] does the change file need to be signed to REVU ? [06:04] Tonio: you have to sign the package with a key belonging to the keyring i guess === scogroup is now known as HostingGeek [06:04] logic.... How to perform this, during package creation with pbuilder ? === HostingGeek is now known as SCOgroup === SCOgroup is now known as HostingGeek === HostingGeek is now known as SCOlawyer [06:10] Tonio: yes, please sign the .changes file with debsign, if you run dpkg-buildpackage with -us -uc [06:12] k === DanielN`aw is now known as DanielN === SCOlawyer is now known as HostingGeek === blueyed [~daniel@i53870A97.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:32] <\sh> patching time [06:33] :) === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:39] <\sh> and 3 bugs closed [06:40] \sh: Are you SURE you aren't a machine? :-) [06:40] <\sh> bddebian: yes I'm sure..and you should be at a meeting? ,-) [06:41] \sh: Bah screw em :-) === Panzerboy [~NoName@panzerboy.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:41] <\sh> actually I want to have the new ubuntu shirt: merger of the month *harharhar* [06:41] ok done for the source signing... [06:41] is it also necessary to sign the binary package ? [06:43] Tonio: please don't upload binary packages, we can only review what we can read ;) [06:44] ah okay.... [06:44] then you're rebuilding them by yourself ? [06:44] <\sh> yes [06:45] <\sh> right now...later it will be done automatically [06:45] okay... [06:47] <\sh> hmm...12 packages from 14:30utc [06:48] Wow === bddebian better get crackin' [06:57] can someone request a sync of ace from debian at elmo? the ubuntu changes can be dropped [06:58] \sh: I just noticed the t-shirt comment. LOL. Now stop joking around. ;-) [06:59] <\sh> bddebian: why? [06:59] \sh: Because I get in trouble for it. :-) [06:59] slomo: is there a bugzilla bug? [07:00] siretart: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10580 [07:00] <\sh> bddebian: if you work hard...you can make jokes as long as u want *lol* [07:00] \sh: No apparently I can't. Of course, maybe I'm not working hard? :-) [07:00] <\sh> bddebian: come fill in some bugs ,-) [07:01] Trying to build hardware-monitor as we speak :) [07:01] <\sh> and I will let libbuffy fly === \sh is listening to Queen - Wembley Concert '86 [07:02] slomo: then I'd suggest reassigning the bug to elmo === ogra_d [~ogra@p5089F37E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:03] <\sh> but configure is not doing as expected [07:03] <\sh> damn cdbs [07:03] \sh: There's another.. :-) [07:04] <\sh> so I have to patch something...*grrr* === herzi [~herzi@c206083.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:07] siretart: never mind... the debian version doesn't build out of the box :/ some c++ weirdness... lets look for a fix ;) [07:07] Hey, what happened to licq? [07:07] <\sh> done? [07:07] <\sh> I think I did it [07:08] <\sh> i don't know anymore === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-086-247.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:08] \sh: You fixed the gcc4 fsckage? === punkrockguy318 [~lukas@68.84.69.24] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:08] <\sh> actually...I don't know anymore..can be... [07:08] Heh [07:09] OK, I wanna do debtags but I KNOW it isn't going to work [07:09] <\sh> I uploaded on friday [07:09] debtags? [07:10] <\sh> but looks like [07:10] <\sh> yeah I fixed it ,-) [07:10] <\sh> why? [07:10] does it make libdebtags1-dev?? [07:11] If not, how did you get around the build-dep for libdebtags1-dev? [07:11] <\sh> bddebian: apt-get source licq? ,-) [07:11] <\sh> no licq [07:12] \sh: No, I meant debtags.. [07:12] Ack, I'm getting confused [07:12] <\sh> oh no..I never touched debtags === bddebian shoots himself again [07:14] <\sh> damn [07:17] <\sh> the merge diff b0rked the whole upstream source [07:18] <\sh> I have to start from the debian package..not from the merge [07:21] How should I tag a bug for a missing build-dep? [07:22] NEEDINFO? UPSTREAM? [07:22] <\sh> which packages? [07:22] In this case debtags [07:23] <\sh> ask in -devel...what about debtags [07:23] <\sh> if this is missing..what package are u working on? [07:23] ?? [07:23] <\sh> u said: missing build-dep == debtas [07:23] <\sh> debtags even [07:23] <\sh> so what package are u working on? [07:24] \sh: No, debtags is missing build-dep libdebtags-dev (>= 1.0.3) [07:25] <\sh> resync from debian? [07:25] <\sh> ask in -devel if it's ok to break UVF for that [07:25] <\sh> and if it's ok...then ping elmo for sync [07:25] Break UVF? [07:26] Ohh, nm [07:26] <\sh> UpstreamVersionFreeze [07:26] I asked about it the other day and they said it's Universe === siretart [siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:27] OK< gotta go back and check on my installers. bbiab. [07:29] I just uploaded the first package [07:29] if everything is correct I will add the 20 others... [07:29] thanks to all of you for your help ! [07:31] Tonio: your upload was successfull. btw, did you check your packages with lintian and linda? [07:32] I'm using debuild 6S [07:32] it is supposed to perform that yes.... [07:33] well, that's what is said in the man ;) [07:33] Tonio: please rerun lintian on the .dsc file [07:33] okay [07:34] then reupload ? [07:34] I'd say so, you will get reviews that tell you to fix the lintian warnings ;) [07:35] for NEW packages, please dont use -1 as revision but -0ubuntu1. [07:35] siretart: no warning... [07:35] lintian will cry about that, ignore that [07:35] <\sh> any amd64 guru here? [07:35] okay for -1 [07:35] Tonio: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/incoming/katalog-0507251930/lintian this is what I get [07:36] yes I have it too... [07:36] which means ? [07:37] that you should fix them ;) [07:37] lol okay [07:37] didn't knew that it was necessary ;) [07:37] I'll do [07:38] <\sh> siretart: do u have an amd64? [07:38] siretart: sorry I'll be a pain in the ass for the first package, but it'll be okay for the others ^^ [07:38] \sh: yes, at home [07:39] Tonio: no problem, your welcome. we all had our first packaging experience ;) [07:39] <\sh> siretart: can u look at this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/x/xmms-jack/0.14-3ubuntu2/xmms-jack_0.14-3ubuntu2_20050725-1749-amd64-failed.gz [07:41] \sh: that jack.o was compiled without -fPIC. this is not that urgent on i386. but will fail on amd64 [07:41] and on nearly every other architecture, I read [07:44] <\sh> hmmm.. [07:44] <\sh> only jack.o? cause I set -fPIC [07:44] <\sh> should I set it in the CFLAGS? [07:45] I think yes, I can try it out when I get home [07:46] <\sh> I'll upload with a change [07:48] siretart: Hey, you never check MY uploads that fast ;-P [07:50] bddebian: I get copies of output of 'process_uploads.sh', a lintian output is included there [07:50] siretart: Ahh :-) [07:51] <\sh> siretart: i have to bug u again ;)http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/g/gtk-gnutella/0.95.3-1ubuntu1/gtk-gnutella_0.95.3-1ubuntu1_20050725-1747-amd64-failed.gz [07:51] <\sh> vmsg.c: In function 'handle_time_sync_reply': [07:51] <\sh> vmsg.c:1189: error: duplicate case value [07:51] <\sh> vmsg.c:1189: error: previously used here [07:52] <\sh> but I don't see a case here ,-) [07:52] \sh: I'd have to look in the source, I'll do that when I get home, ok? [07:53] <\sh> siretart: thx [07:54] <\sh> oi..rain and a lot of it [07:57] hmm, we have wxwindows2.4 as a merger... shall i look at it or mark the bug resolved because of 2.6? [07:58] slomo: I think we will need both [07:58] ok, i'll take it ;) [07:59] Ack, schooltool doesn't look right [07:59] hmmmmm... wxwindows2.4 is a native package? [08:00] wtf? [08:00] siretart: W: katalog source: changelog-should-mention-nmu -> do I have to manage with this too ? [08:01] Tonio: ignore this. lintian does not now about ubuntu specialities [08:01] Tonio: basically, all of our uploads are nmu's, in debian terms [08:01] ah ok, we have already a newer wxwindows2.4 version in the archives... no need to worry, siretart ;) [08:01] ok [08:02] siretart: okay [08:05] Tonio: hmm, maybe you want to look at cdbs... this will make your rules much smaller ;) also the build-deps doesn't seem right to me [08:06] slomo: I think it won't hurt to make the first packages without cdbs [08:06] slomo: after all, you understand what cdbs does for you [08:06] what's the problem with deps ? === JDahl [~qwerty@ca-stmnca-cuda4-gen2t1-68.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:08] Tonio: just debhelper for a kde package seems a bit weird... i think at least kdelibs-dev or something similar is needed [08:09] Tonio: did you try to build your package in pbuilder? [08:09] pbuilder is great to check build dependencies [08:10] works fine but that's true I have to add libe manually [08:10] then the binary packagehas the correct deps... [08:10] Grrr [08:10] best thing is maybe to build it within pbuilder and then modify the deps manually isn't it ? [08:10] please note that all packages are autobuilt in ubuntu, so with wrong build deps, your package will FTBFS (fail to build from source) [08:11] Or like unnecesary patches for gcc4 :-) [08:11] yes I understand.... [08:12] Debian Unstable recently included a much newer version of OpenAFS, which I would love to see included in Breezy/Universe (The current packages are not really useful since they only work for kernel 2.4). Whom do I beg, and is there an official mailinglist for requests like that? [08:12] siretart: ok, maybe you're right :) but i think when he first sees cdbs he feels like me and wonders why he struggled with all these stuff in rules ;) [08:13] slomo: with purpose :) [08:16] siretart: and it seems many don't know what cdbs can do for them ;) so it's maybe better when he googles for it right after his first package [08:16] slomo: cdbs has also quite annoying bugs [08:17] and is sometimes hard to debug, but for simple packages, it's great === \sh is fighting with cdbs and autotools updating war === SloMoSnail [~slomo@p5487C289.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:18] <\sh> ah won :) [08:19] siretart: ok... i haven't found any bugs until now ;) what is the most annoying one? [08:21] slomo: choose one: http://bugs.debian.org/cdbs [08:21] ;) [08:23] hum... i haven't said anything ;) some of them are nearly 2 years old... [08:28] <\sh> siretart: ok..jack.o is compiled with -fPIC...but amd64 complains again [08:28] <\sh> siretart: can u check alter on xmms-jack? [08:30] will do later === ogra [~ogra@p5089F37E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:34] <\sh> *yawn* [08:35] <\sh> I think I retire today [08:41] hehe :) [08:48] <\sh> but just now === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:48] <\sh> hey herve [08:48] hello [08:48] I was about to say "morning" :)- [08:48] who was fighting againt qemu? [08:48] herve: did you send boo changes to debian [08:49] <\sh> siretart: ? [08:49] tseng: boo is synced already [08:49] uh? [08:49] that wasnt my question [08:49] he made ubuntu changes [08:50] tseng: ah sorry... i can't read :( [08:50] tseng, this is how elmo works, the packages are named with my name but signed by the auto archiver [08:50] herve: oh right, so that was just a sync [08:50] it really is a sync [08:50] herve: thanks. im dumb [08:51] herve: I uploaded it, it still needs a patch from debian bts, and some dependencies === TMM [~hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:52] siretart, because I read a new version was out [08:52] I sent my application to the laptop testing team today :-) [08:52] nice [08:53] :) [08:53] if you are too [08:53] note the fax number given in the application form is wrong [08:53] it's Claire's number [08:54] use the one from her signature [08:54] else you will hear "canonical, hello" from the fax machine :-) [08:54] <\sh> lol [08:54] <\sh> hello claire *peeep* [08:55] no, she can redirect the call to her fax machine at worst [08:55] ok, I look what I can upload [08:56] <\sh> what? [08:57] + at === Danten [~danten@h3n9c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:58] herve: I'm really busy this week, if you want a working qemu, coordinate with slomo [08:58] ok [08:58] but I hope the compilation is not eating too much resource [08:58] my laptop gets easily on fire [08:59] <\sh> hehe [08:59] <\sh> my laptop burns ;) [09:00] <\sh> ok..if this is not a oneline I will go to bed for today [09:00] <\sh> crap oneliner...upload [09:02] herve: is someone already working on an updated debian package for 0.7.1? [09:03] <\sh> ugh....source is 3.0 diff is 6.6M [09:03] <\sh> bla [09:03] I don't known that [09:05] ok, driving home. byw folks [09:06] see you [09:07] <\sh> siretart: cu .. === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p5089F37E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-068-059.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p5089F37E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:43] I'll be back... [09:43] :-) [09:43] Thanks for the warning ;-) [09:44] <\sh> I'm not in bed :( [09:44] \sh: Be quiet and get to work. ;-P === poningru [~poningru@pool-71-243-232-49.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:51] <\sh> bddebian: hmmmm.... === schweeb_ [~chris@209.120.232.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elph0 [~elph0@200.232.27.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elph0 [~elph0@200.232.27.125] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-073-135.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:16] re [10:17] <\sh> re herve [10:17] <\sh> last cigarette for today..then bedtime [10:17] <\sh> I completly exhausted [10:17] I can imagine [10:17] re [10:18] \sh: what packages did you want me to look at? [10:18] hmm... one package I "uploaded" today failed to build [10:18] <\sh> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/x/xmms-jack/0.14-3ubuntu3/xmms-jack_0.14-3ubuntu3_20050725-1919-amd64-failed.gz [10:18] wb herve [10:18] <\sh> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/g/gtk-gnutella/0.95.3-1ubuntu1/gtk-gnutella_0.95.3-1ubuntu1_20050725-1747-amd64-failed.gz [10:18] \sh: Last cigarette??? Nooo :-) [10:18] wb siretart [10:20] <\sh> bddebian: yes for sure [10:20] hi bddebian [10:21] <\sh> siretart: if you can fix it somehow, please upload and update the bugs [10:21] <\sh> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10441 [10:22] <\sh> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10616 [10:23] something changed with the qt3 headers? [10:23] <\sh> it's ok when I retire for this evening? yes? bddebian? [10:24] \sh: you must fall from your chair of tiredness, go and sleep well! [10:24] <\sh> herve: yeah..riddell uploaded after the last xorg mess..libXcursor.la is not installed anymore [10:24] \sh: Oh, I guess so. :-) Good work as usual. :-) [10:24] <\sh> hehe [10:24] I mean, compiling a package depending on libqt3-headers and libqt3-mt-dev [10:25] <\sh> no..that's always the same [10:25] configure: error: qmake not found in current PATH. Maybe QT development environment isn't available (qt3-devel). [10:25] <\sh> ah [10:25] but the dependencies seem good [10:25] <\sh> qt3-tools [10:25] <\sh> bla [10:25] qt3-tools is missing? [10:25] <\sh> qt3-dev-tools [10:25] <\sh> or qt3-apps-dev [10:26] I see no such thing [10:26] \sh: you won't beleive it, xmms-jack_0.14-3ubuntu3 got built here 'as is' [10:26] <\sh> qt3-dev-tools: [10:26] <\sh> siretart: no [10:26] <\sh> strange [10:26] yeah === siretart confused [10:26] <\sh> me too [10:26] <\sh> (c) aol.com [10:26] argl [10:26] sorry [10:27] this was inside my i386 chroot :/ [10:27] the buildd can be b0rked sometimes [10:27] I hope lamont is not here :-) [10:27] <\sh> he's lurking around, I think..suddenly he appears and mumbling something, that 3 pbuilders in series are better then in a row ,-) [10:28] <\sh> I don't believe it (tm) [10:28] :) [10:28] <\sh> sorry lamont :) just joking [10:29] so \sh you mean qt3-dev-tools is missing? [10:29] <\sh> yes [10:29] <\sh> herve: in debuild state or inside the pbuilder [10:29] <\sh> ? [10:29] strange debian is ok [10:30] the pbuilder [10:30] compilation failed on all buildds [10:30] <\sh> herve: which one? [10:30] <\sh> no... [10:30] <\sh> i didn't ask [10:31] <\sh> nono [10:31] <\sh> I'm off [10:31] <\sh> buffy? [10:31] Later \sh [10:31] <\sh> ok..g'night... [10:31] <\sh> thx siretart for helping me out [10:32] <\sh> bddebian: and don't forget your jokes :) [10:32] \sh: I'm not allowed. ;-P [10:32] <\sh> herve: if I can help you...send a mail to sh at sourcecode.de or something.. [10:32] <\sh> anyways. [10:33] Damn I wish this bugzilla-daemon would stop sending me e-mails.. :-) === lamont__ bemoans his lack of rotten vegetables [10:34] Uhm.. [10:36] \sh_away, sorry I was cooking rice :-) [10:37] \sh_away, no, think of something else, have rest, and dream sweet dreams [10:39] Riddell, ping [10:42] Should I bother with the xfc3 merge issues or is that a xfce team job? [10:42] Err s/xfc3/xfce/ [10:43] there's a team so keep it for the end [10:43] gaah! hydrogen can't find the qt3 headers [10:45] herve: hi [10:46] bddebian: no... ogra said that's the job of the xfce team and one of them meant he's working on it [10:46] Riddell, hi [10:46] Riddell, did you change the package where the qt3 headers go compared to debian? [10:48] herve: nope [10:48] I have a package that can't find the qt3 headers [10:48] hmm [10:48] it also says it can't find qmake [10:48] but the package is installed... === bddebian tags all xfce* bugs to xfce team.. ;-P [10:51] doko, ping [10:51] bddebian, it will assign bugs to them? [10:52] herve: I was kidding. Man everyone is so serious around here. :-) [10:53] well it is a serious job :-) [10:57] Hmm, the debian-dropped patch has build-depends python2.4 but the merged sorce package has 2.4? Which do I use? Leave 2.4? [10:58] maybe the debian one moved to python2.4? [10:58] hm, when a package just needs g++ to build... must i add anything like libstdc++-dev or g++ to build-deps? [10:58] anyway, it's hard to answer like that [10:58] SloMoSnail, no, build-essential is induced [10:58] herve: Sorry I meant the dropped patch still has python2.3 but the merged source has 2.4 [11:00] check it's coherent and test the build [11:00] Of course [11:00] I doubt MoM is bug-free [11:00] WHAT? [11:00] ;-) [11:01] hmm... what will this be fixed automatically? http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/i/icu/2.1-3ubuntu1/icu_2.1-3ubuntu1_20050725-2138-i386-failed.gz [11:01] other archs built without problems [11:02] surely temporary error [11:02] ping lamont otherwise [11:03] ok, thanks [11:03] SloMoSnail: How goes things? [11:04] bddebian: fine :) have fixed 5 mom-packages and currently i'm packaging dirac for gstreamer-plugins-multiverse ;) [11:05] isn't dirac FLOSS? [11:05] FLOSS? [11:05] SloMoSnail: Nice [11:06] sladen, Free/Open source software [11:06] there's a license isssue on dirac? [11:06] Free/Libre... [11:06] else you miss the L :-) [11:06] yes [11:06] not afaik... it's under MPL and as far as the developers know they even don't infrige any patents [11:07] ah, then why multiverse? [11:07] maybe it hasn't been reviewed for legal issue [11:07] I just want it in ubuntu, dont really care about where it goes [11:07] dirac will go to universe i think... but it doesn't make sense to do 2 different gst-plugins packages for multiverse and universe ;) === herve just killed his firefox searching for "-" in a 160k diff... [11:09] herve: pong [11:10] any MOTU "admin" here [11:10] prefereably dholbach or ogra [11:10] Wow, next goal 30 [11:10] doko, I am merging zope2.7 with latest debian, unless you want to do something special? [11:11] SloMoSnail: the only log I currently have for icu is from ppc on autotest [11:13] lamont: hmm, at http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/i/icu/2.1-3ubuntu1/ are all buildlogs [11:13] herve: that's ok [11:13] Well I'm heading home. Later folks. [11:14] bye bddebian [11:14] SloMoSnail: yeah - I'm trying to be lazy... :) and the fact that it's not in my mailbox means that either (1) it was automatically queued, or (2) it hasn't made it through the straw to my machine yet [11:14] and given that it's only 40 minutes old, it's probably option #2 === SloMo_ [~slomo@p5487B4FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:15] hmm... connection has disappeared :/ === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:25] morning all === ajmitch somehow got a laptop testing team email as well [11:26] morning ajmitch [11:26] ajmitch, I sent my application today :-) [11:26] hey herve [11:26] good to see you merging zope2.7 changes [11:26] are there many changes there? [11:27] & what zope packages are left? === ajmitch will get a list of zope packages we've modified & put them into baz archives for sending to the debian team [11:27] some patches are in the new zope2.7 from debian [11:27] others are still specific to ubuntu [11:28] I haven't touched products [11:28] ok [11:28] and won't today, it's already bedtime [11:28] the products I've merged have been simple merges [11:28] ok :) === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [~slomo@p5487B4FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:42] \sh_away: I uploaded xmms-jack_0.14-3ubuntu4. a real ugly package, which should be repackaged by someone who knows what he does. perhaps with cdbs [11:43] <\sh> damn I can't sleep cause I#m hungry [11:43] hehe [11:43] <\sh> thx siretart ... [11:43] but what are you doing here? [11:43] looking for TheFridge? ;-) [11:43] <\sh> I'm eating..finally I start cooking ;) [11:43] everything happens! [11:44] hey! no fridge jokes! [11:44] \sh: the orig tarball is a mess, too [11:44] <\sh> siretart: well...next release...we need more time [11:44] whiprush, I am hungry, where is TheFridge ? [11:44] don't know. [11:44] who is working on it? [11:44] maybe I should bug jdub about it more. [11:44] whiprush: nothign wrong with fridge jokes :) [11:45] Burgundavia: I'm a second on it on the spec. [11:45] \sh: amazing work on the merges :) [11:45] absolutley [11:45] but last I heard we were waiting on art or something. [11:45] <\sh> actually I have to think about my mental state...eating at this time at night is not good [11:45] but that was over a month ago. [11:45] \sh: don't worry... i'm eating a pizza atm :) [11:45] \sh: depends on what you're gonna eat. Midnight snacks are great :) [11:45] \sh: it's not that late there [11:46] ajmitch: in .au? haha :) [11:46] yes, you're just having breakfast with ajmitch :-) [11:46] <\sh> actually...it's a mixture of kidney beans, tabasco, sliced sausages [11:46] <\sh> quick hack [11:47] whiprush, who is lead? [11:47] <\sh> just a patch for my stomach [11:47] \sh: sounds nice :) [11:48] \sh: I will have to look at the other package tomorrow, I definitly need some sleep now. sorry [11:48] siretart: what has .au got to do with anything? :) [11:48] <\sh> yeah...taste as well...wonder [11:48] ajmitch: the time, ;) [11:48] <\sh> siretart: no prob...I saw ire is also ftbfsing again on amd64... [11:49] timezone, even [11:49] \sh: if you want to look some obscure stuff, look at xmms-jack, and my patches. I converted the packages to dpatch, btw [11:49] Burgundavia: jdub [11:49] I have no idea why it could be build on i386 at all [11:49] whiprush, ah, ok [11:50] <\sh> siretart: I will :) I want to know the hidden secrets of amd64 [11:50] maybe he's overtasked. [11:50] maybe we're supposed to Just Do It(tm) [11:50] siretart: well, it's about 8am in eastern .au :) === ajmitch is only 2 hrs TZ different from there [11:50] ajmitch: hui. its 23:50 here, and I'm off for bed now :) [11:50] gn8 folks! [11:51] night [11:51] night [11:51] gn8 === ajmitch tries to get this zope merge in place :) [11:52] whiprush, I would take the lead and start bugging AndyFitz. He is the one that needs to get the art to you [11:52] hmmm, good idea. [11:52] silly postinst should be removed, in favour of a debhelper one [11:52] hrm, anyone know what the current state of X in breezy is [11:52] Lathiat, depends on your system [11:52] Lathiat: probably broken as ever [11:52] i am currently back on hoary and wondering if an upgrade is a worse idea than bad [11:53] ajmitch, yes it should [11:53] before my xkb was broken, fonts were screwed but somewhat working, otherwise working [11:53] any change on that? [11:53] <\sh> Lathiat: x is broken.... [11:53] <\sh> Lathiat: use xmodmap + xkeycaps...I think the trick came from comadreja [11:54] well, my keyboard was usable, just shortcuts and ctrl+alt+f1 wouldnt work, and i couldnt change my font dpi [11:54] maybe i'll install breezy on a seocnd partition and wait till next week [11:54] so i can at least get some work done :) === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-18.ecn.purdue.edu] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:00] <\sh> damn [12:00] <\sh> I'm stupid === ajmitch is also [12:01] forgot to re-remove the postinst in a zope package I merged :) [12:02] <\sh> and I blown away some ashes from my cigarette..which was burning...I don't find it...*grmpf*