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| JRe | anyone is running kde svn here ? | 10:10 |
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| Riddell | JRe: I can do | 11:12 |
| JRe | Riddell: no it's good i have found someone ;)+ | 11:12 |
| JRe | hehe KDE people like us http://www.very-clever.com/kde-blog/2005/07/26/kubuntu-is-great/ | 11:59 |
| Riddell | :) | 12:00 |
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| JRe | Riddell: http://jrepin.blogspot.com/2005/07/jlps-kde-35-previews-part-1.html they talk about media notifier :) | 12:31 |
| \sh | Riddell: u start uploading 3.4.2? | 01:05 |
| Riddell | \sh: ssh :) | 01:06 |
| \sh | *oops* | 01:06 |
| \sh | :) | 01:07 |
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| froud | insanekane: you there | 01:32 |
| JRe | \sh: did you find the kwave maintainer | 01:42 |
| JRe | ? | 01:43 |
| \sh | JRe: yes...I will try to build kwave with orig source | 01:54 |
| \sh | and lets see | 01:54 |
| JRe | ko | 01:55 |
| JRe | ok | 01:55 |
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| Riddell | JRe: if the icecream package works feel free to send it to revu | 03:03 |
| JRe | Riddell: ok | 03:04 |
| Mez | Riddell, ping | 03:48 |
| Riddell | Mez: hi | 03:49 |
| allee | JRe: do you happen to have a kay action for digikam that I can include in the pkg? | 04:51 |
| JRe | allee: you have contact with digiKam upstream ? | 04:51 |
| allee | JRe: yes, that too ;) | 04:51 |
| JRe | allee: so you can make some lobying to make them register automaticly to media notifier | 04:52 |
| JRe | allee: with Kevin we have started lobying | 04:52 |
| allee | JRe: yes for sure | 04:52 |
| JRe | allee: but ATM only Kscd do that ;) | 04:52 |
| JRe | allee: you can tell them that there is an exemple in KScd or they can contact me if they want more info | 04:53 |
| allee | JRe: well for perfect integration digikam changes are needed. E.g, you can't pass the mount point of an USB mass-storage camera | 04:53 |
| JRe | allee: yeah you're right | 04:54 |
| JRe | allee: i think that Kevin have amaroK and digiKam on the sight for these kind of problem | 04:54 |
| allee | JRe: thx, I'll check kscd trunk and try it. | 04:55 |
| JRe | allee: but the problem is that i am not sure that we will be able to backport medianofitier to KDE 3.4.2 | 04:55 |
| JRe | allee: (since ervin is going now to change the way that the plugged media will be notified by changing the HAL backend) | 04:56 |
| JRe | allee: you can test medianotifier if you want by compiling trunk =) | 04:57 |
| JRe | allee: (i fixed two bugs today =) ) | 04:57 |
| JRe | allee: (it's in kdebase/kioslave/media/ ) | 04:58 |
| allee | JRe: I'll have a look at the commits. any estimate already for 3.5 final release date? | 04:59 |
| JRe | i know that we freeze features in august | 05:00 |
| JRe | allee: but i dunnow for the release :( | 05:00 |
| allee | JRe: 'k np | 05:00 |
| JRe | allee: all i know is that trunk is pretty stable ATM | 05:00 |
| JRe | allee: anyway i really hope that we will be able to have 3.5 in Breezy | 05:02 |
| allee | hmm, KDE 3.5 will be much later than the next 0.7* digikam release. But sounds in time for 0.8 | 05:03 |
| allee | JRe: me too. Moving windows in minipager alone is worth having it! | 05:03 |
| JRe | allee: yes it rocks!!! I love also the new konqueror search bar, the new system:/ kioslave and of course the medianotifier =) =) | 05:04 |
| JRe | allee: August 22 Complete feature freeze | 05:05 |
| Riddell | JRe: for KDE? | 05:09 |
| JRe | Riddell: yes http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=112001066511818&w=2 | 05:09 |
| JRe | Riddell: but dunnow if it's the real date ar just an estimation | 05:10 |
| JRe | Riddell: you have information on the freeze date ? | 05:11 |
| Riddell | I think that's just a guess | 05:11 |
| Riddell | there's no official date for freeze yet as far as I know | 05:11 |
| JRe | Riddell: ok! I hope it will be before september :) | 05:11 |
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| Mez | Riddell - is it worth building the i38n stuff for k3b | 05:14 |
| Riddell | i38n? | 05:15 |
| Riddell | that's a long word | 05:15 |
| Mez | ? | 05:15 |
| Mez | internationalisation | 05:15 |
| Riddell | i18n | 05:15 |
| JRe | =) | 05:15 |
| Riddell | Mez: isn't it part of the same sources? | 05:16 |
| Mez | seems not | 05:16 |
| Mez | http://k3b.plainblack.com/download | 05:16 |
| Mez | I think we can prob build a load of i38n packages | 05:18 |
| Mez | for k3b | 05:18 |
| allee | Mez: good question! digikam* has/will splits docs out of main tarball too (GUI trans still in main tarballs). Is there a policy/suggestion how to handle those multilanguage pkgs in (k)ubuntu? | 05:21 |
| Mez | *shrugs* | 05:21 |
| Mez | I've split some stuff out of packages before | 05:22 |
| Mez | but well, this is different | 05:22 |
| allee | I tend to release as one pkgs because splitting out dozends of pkgs is not the right solution | 05:22 |
| Mez | this involves making a new bas package | 05:22 |
| Mez | yeah | 05:23 |
| Mez | but if you only want i18n for one lang? | 05:23 |
| allee | Mez: bas? | 05:23 |
| Mez | bas? | 05:23 |
| allee | <Mez> this involves making a new bas package | 05:23 |
| Mez | s/bas/base/ | 05:23 |
| allee | ah | 05:23 |
| Mez | ah no it doesnt | 05:24 |
| Mez | Riddell! | 05:24 |
| Mez | *pokes* | 05:24 |
| Mez | theres already a k3b-i18n | 05:24 |
| Mez | shall I update? | 05:24 |
| allee | I would also prefer one pkg per lang, but in general for KDE apps this generates an order of magnigute more pkgs :( | 05:24 |
| Mez | kde has one package per land | 05:25 |
| allee | I splitting is 'easy' but what user want is I want lang1 lang2, ... and later does not care about <pkg>-doc-<lang> | 05:26 |
| Mez | lol | 05:26 |
| allee | that's something apt/deb pkg mngnt does not support :( | 05:27 |
| Mez | should make <pkg>-i18n-<lang> depend on <pkg>-doc-<lang> | 05:27 |
| Riddell | Mez: we do have a kde-i18n package I see, so yes that should be updated | 05:28 |
| Riddell | (even if the strip package stuff means it won't work yet) | 05:28 |
| allee | mhmm, isn't all this s/i18n/l10n/. Who cares ;) | 05:28 |
| Mez | strip package stuff? | 05:29 |
| allee | Mez: this approach does not scale and is messy like all meta pkgs that don't have a no-much-changing set of pkg | 05:29 |
| Riddell | Mez: when main packages get uploaded to the server their .mo files get stripped so they can be put in language-pack-xx, but it doesn't work right for kde yet | 05:30 |
| allee | Riddell: Are there plans to handle doc too this way (.html, docbook etc) | 05:31 |
| allee | +? | 05:31 |
| Riddell | allee: no, docs stay in kde-i18n-xx | 05:33 |
| allee | he, he, core kde tarballs solve the problem already ;) Looks like localepurge is still the only rescue after one downloaded lots of (useless) bytes. ;) | 05:36 |
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| Mez | Riddell: uploading to REVU | 06:14 |
| Riddell | Mez: icecream? | 06:16 |
| Riddell | or k3b-i18n? | 06:16 |
| Mez | huh? | 06:16 |
| Riddell | no, it was JRe looking at icecream | 06:16 |
| Mez | k3b-i18n | 06:16 |
| Mez | ah lol | 06:16 |
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| \sh | Riddell: ping...does it make sense to rebuild kde apps for cxx trans after your uploads? ,-) | 07:42 |
| Riddell | \sh: how do you mean? | 07:45 |
| \sh | Riddell: we have some kde apps to rebuild because of the cxx transition...and I'm asking if I should w8 for the surprise? or can I just rebuild without any hassle? | 07:47 |
| \sh | updating to the latest libs? | 07:47 |
| Riddell | \sh: it shouldn't make a difference going from kdelibs 3.4.1 to kdelibs 3.4.2 so you should be fine to upload | 07:48 |
| \sh | thx :) | 07:48 |
| Riddell | \sh: who is we and what are the apps? | 07:48 |
| Mez | digikam in breezy yet | 08:12 |
| Riddell | is that a question? | 08:12 |
| \sh | Riddell: wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseUnmetDeps | 08:12 |
| Mez | er | 08:12 |
| Mez | maybe | 08:12 |
| allee | Mez: digikam & co gets love at this very moment ;) | 08:14 |
| Mez | lol | 08:14 |
| Mez | kool | 08:14 |
| allee | preliminary pkgs build on breezy last night but I've to finish license/copyright review :( | 08:15 |
| Mez | digikam = pretty b0rke din hoary | 08:16 |
| allee | Mez: in forum you'll find my hoary repo that fixes it ;) | 08:16 |
| Mez | allee... link? | 08:17 |
| allee | http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary/Pkgs.php | 08:17 |
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| Mez | you gonna build 3.4.2 for hoary ? | 09:23 |
| Riddell | Mez|likescheese: yes | 09:23 |
| Mez|French | w00t :d | 09:24 |
| Mez|French | hehehehe :D | 09:24 |
| Mez|French | good | 09:24 |
| Mez|French | :D | 09:24 |
| Mez | cant wait | 09:24 |
| Mez | is 3.4.2 gonna go into breezy? | 09:24 |
| \sh | Mez: when it's backported to hoary...what do u think? ,-) | 09:25 |
| Mez | btw allee your repos still dont work | 09:25 |
| Mez | \sh is it being backported though? | 09:25 |
| allee | Mez: eh? I used them yesterday no problem | 09:25 |
| Mez | and \sh I thoght there was an upstram version freeze | 09:25 |
| allee | Mez: what goes wrong on your side | 09:25 |
| Mez | allee, try anything under "my tags" | 09:26 |
| Mez | and it errors | 09:26 |
| \sh | Mez: I think it has to go in ... and riddell will get the permission | 09:26 |
| Mez | doesnt that mean everything needs a rebuild against 3.4.2 | 09:27 |
| \sh | nope...it's not breaking the binary format of the libs | 09:28 |
| Mez | hmm. | 09:29 |
| Mez | oh yeah, can use things with libs from before | 09:29 |
| Mez | but, cant use things with libs from after | 09:29 |
| \sh | Mez: between 3.4.1 and 3.4.2 shouldn't be any bigger changes..bugfixes, polishing, but not many new things, riddell stop me before I'm writing nonsense | 09:30 |
| Riddell | bugfixes only, binary compatiblity is kept of course | 09:31 |
| Riddell | no string changes | 09:31 |
| Mez | fair enogh | 09:32 |
| allee | Mez: almost-ready 0.7.4 debs have no problem with tags. I'll downgrade to 0.7.2 later. Right now I need working 0.7.4 | 09:32 |
| allee | + for love ;) | 09:32 |
| Mez | well, they just say the protocol sint recognised | 09:33 |
| allee | oh? Care to logout in? Maybe io-slave don't get picked up dynamicly update. Anything in ~/.xsession-error? | 09:34 |
| Mez | meh, too much hassle for a logout at the mo | 09:34 |
| Mez | building | 09:34 |
| allee | Mez: 'k (hint: you need a testuser account for display :1) | 09:35 |
| Mez | o_O | 09:35 |
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| Riddell | tech board, #ubuntu-meeting, now | 10:01 |
| Mez | Riddell, I'm assuming you're there for me? | 10:14 |
| Riddell | I'm always here for you baby | 10:15 |
| Mez | o_O | 10:21 |
| Mez | dont let Emily hear you say that | 10:21 |
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| \sh | Riddell: thx for all :) | 11:43 |
| Riddell | very welcome | 11:43 |
| allee | \sh, Mez: contratulation! | 11:50 |
| Mez | ty :D | 11:50 |
| allee | congratulation even | 11:50 |
| \sh | thx :) | 11:53 |
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