=== \sh is now known as \sh_away === crimsun [~crimsun@rchp4.rochester.ibm.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === venda [~sean@ndn-165-137-215.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === insanekane [~kane@202.83.34.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:10] anyone is running kde svn here ? === \sh_away is now known as \sh === insanekane [~kane@202.83.34.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:12] JRe: I can do [11:12] Riddell: no it's good i have found someone ;)+ [11:59] hehe KDE people like us http://www.very-clever.com/kde-blog/2005/07/26/kubuntu-is-great/ [12:00] :) === kane [~kane@202.83.34.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kane is now known as insanekane === insanekane is now known as insanekanefr === insanekanefr is now known as insanekane === insanekane [~kane@202.83.34.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:31] Riddell: http://jrepin.blogspot.com/2005/07/jlps-kde-35-previews-part-1.html they talk about media notifier :) [01:05] <\sh> Riddell: u start uploading 3.4.2? [01:06] \sh: ssh :) [01:06] <\sh> *oops* [01:07] <\sh> :) === froud [~froud@ndn-165-137-215.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:32] insanekane: you there [01:42] \sh: did you find the kwave maintainer [01:43] ? [01:54] <\sh> JRe: yes...I will try to build kwave with orig source [01:54] <\sh> and lets see [01:55] ko [01:55] ok === KabelKasper [~vloechte@i5387C1F9.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:03] JRe: if the icecream package works feel free to send it to revu [03:04] Riddell: ok [03:48] Riddell, ping [03:49] Mez: hi [04:51] JRe: do you happen to have a kay action for digikam that I can include in the pkg? [04:51] allee: you have contact with digiKam upstream ? [04:51] JRe: yes, that too ;) [04:52] allee: so you can make some lobying to make them register automaticly to media notifier [04:52] allee: with Kevin we have started lobying [04:52] JRe: yes for sure [04:52] allee: but ATM only Kscd do that ;) [04:53] allee: you can tell them that there is an exemple in KScd or they can contact me if they want more info [04:53] JRe: well for perfect integration digikam changes are needed. E.g, you can't pass the mount point of an USB mass-storage camera [04:54] allee: yeah you're right [04:54] allee: i think that Kevin have amaroK and digiKam on the sight for these kind of problem [04:55] JRe: thx, I'll check kscd trunk and try it. [04:55] allee: but the problem is that i am not sure that we will be able to backport medianofitier to KDE 3.4.2 [04:56] allee: (since ervin is going now to change the way that the plugged media will be notified by changing the HAL backend) [04:57] allee: you can test medianotifier if you want by compiling trunk =) [04:57] allee: (i fixed two bugs today =) ) [04:58] allee: (it's in kdebase/kioslave/media/ ) [04:59] JRe: I'll have a look at the commits. any estimate already for 3.5 final release date? [05:00] i know that we freeze features in august [05:00] allee: but i dunnow for the release :( [05:00] JRe: 'k np [05:00] allee: all i know is that trunk is pretty stable ATM [05:02] allee: anyway i really hope that we will be able to have 3.5 in Breezy [05:03] hmm, KDE 3.5 will be much later than the next 0.7* digikam release. But sounds in time for 0.8 [05:03] JRe: me too. Moving windows in minipager alone is worth having it! [05:04] allee: yes it rocks!!! I love also the new konqueror search bar, the new system:/ kioslave and of course the medianotifier =) =) [05:05] allee: August 22 Complete feature freeze [05:09] JRe: for KDE? [05:09] Riddell: yes http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=112001066511818&w=2 [05:10] Riddell: but dunnow if it's the real date ar just an estimation [05:11] Riddell: you have information on the freeze date ? [05:11] I think that's just a guess [05:11] there's no official date for freeze yet as far as I know [05:11] Riddell: ok! I hope it will be before september :) === allee nods [05:14] Riddell - is it worth building the i38n stuff for k3b [05:15] i38n? [05:15] that's a long word [05:15] ? [05:15] internationalisation [05:15] i18n [05:15] =) [05:16] Mez: isn't it part of the same sources? [05:16] seems not [05:16] http://k3b.plainblack.com/download [05:18] I think we can prob build a load of i38n packages [05:18] for k3b [05:21] Mez: good question! digikam* has/will splits docs out of main tarball too (GUI trans still in main tarballs). Is there a policy/suggestion how to handle those multilanguage pkgs in (k)ubuntu? [05:21] *shrugs* [05:22] I've split some stuff out of packages before [05:22] but well, this is different [05:22] I tend to release as one pkgs because splitting out dozends of pkgs is not the right solution [05:22] this involves making a new bas package [05:23] yeah [05:23] but if you only want i18n for one lang? [05:23] Mez: bas? [05:23] bas? [05:23] this involves making a new bas package [05:23] s/bas/base/ [05:23] ah [05:24] ah no it doesnt [05:24] Riddell! [05:24] *pokes* [05:24] theres already a k3b-i18n [05:24] shall I update? [05:24] I would also prefer one pkg per lang, but in general for KDE apps this generates an order of magnigute more pkgs :( [05:25] kde has one package per land [05:26] I splitting is 'easy' but what user want is I want lang1 lang2, ... and later does not care about -doc- [05:26] lol [05:27] that's something apt/deb pkg mngnt does not support :( [05:27] should make -i18n- depend on -doc- [05:28] Mez: we do have a kde-i18n package I see, so yes that should be updated [05:28] (even if the strip package stuff means it won't work yet) [05:28] mhmm, isn't all this s/i18n/l10n/. Who cares ;) [05:29] strip package stuff? [05:29] Mez: this approach does not scale and is messy like all meta pkgs that don't have a no-much-changing set of pkg [05:30] Mez: when main packages get uploaded to the server their .mo files get stripped so they can be put in language-pack-xx, but it doesn't work right for kde yet [05:31] Riddell: Are there plans to handle doc too this way (.html, docbook etc) [05:31] +? [05:33] allee: no, docs stay in kde-i18n-xx [05:36] he, he, core kde tarballs solve the problem already ;) Looks like localepurge is still the only rescue after one downloaded lots of (useless) bytes. ;) === \sh is now known as \sh_away === fromoze [~fromoze@148.Red-83-39-71.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fromoze [~fromoze@148.Red-83-39-71.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:14] Riddell: uploading to REVU [06:16] Mez: icecream? [06:16] or k3b-i18n? [06:16] huh? [06:16] no, it was JRe looking at icecream [06:16] k3b-i18n [06:16] ah lol === \sh_away is now known as \sh === KabelKasper [~vloechte@i5387C1F9.versanet.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === froud_ [~froud@ndn-165-137-215.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:42] <\sh> Riddell: ping...does it make sense to rebuild kde apps for cxx trans after your uploads? ,-) [07:45] \sh: how do you mean? [07:47] <\sh> Riddell: we have some kde apps to rebuild because of the cxx transition...and I'm asking if I should w8 for the surprise? or can I just rebuild without any hassle? [07:47] <\sh> updating to the latest libs? [07:48] \sh: it shouldn't make a difference going from kdelibs 3.4.1 to kdelibs 3.4.2 so you should be fine to upload [07:48] <\sh> thx :) [07:48] \sh: who is we and what are the apps? [08:12] digikam in breezy yet [08:12] is that a question? [08:12] <\sh> Riddell: wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseUnmetDeps [08:12] er [08:12] maybe [08:14] Mez: digikam & co gets love at this very moment ;) [08:14] lol [08:14] kool [08:15] preliminary pkgs build on breezy last night but I've to finish license/copyright review :( [08:16] digikam = pretty b0rke din hoary [08:16] Mez: in forum you'll find my hoary repo that fixes it ;) [08:17] allee... link? [08:17] http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary/Pkgs.php === venda [~sean@ndn-165-137-215.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez pokes riddell [09:23] you gonna build 3.4.2 for hoary ? [09:23] Mez|likescheese: yes [09:24] w00t :d [09:24] hehehehe :D [09:24] good [09:24] :D [09:24] cant wait [09:24] is 3.4.2 gonna go into breezy? [09:25] <\sh> Mez: when it's backported to hoary...what do u think? ,-) [09:25] btw allee your repos still dont work [09:25] \sh is it being backported though? [09:25] Mez: eh? I used them yesterday no problem [09:25] and \sh I thoght there was an upstram version freeze [09:25] Mez: what goes wrong on your side [09:26] allee, try anything under "my tags" [09:26] and it errors [09:26] <\sh> Mez: I think it has to go in ... and riddell will get the permission [09:27] doesnt that mean everything needs a rebuild against 3.4.2 [09:28] <\sh> nope...it's not breaking the binary format of the libs [09:29] hmm. [09:29] oh yeah, can use things with libs from before [09:29] but, cant use things with libs from after [09:30] <\sh> Mez: between 3.4.1 and 3.4.2 shouldn't be any bigger changes..bugfixes, polishing, but not many new things, riddell stop me before I'm writing nonsense [09:31] bugfixes only, binary compatiblity is kept of course [09:31] no string changes [09:32] fair enogh [09:32] Mez: almost-ready 0.7.4 debs have no problem with tags. I'll downgrade to 0.7.2 later. Right now I need working 0.7.4 [09:32] + for love ;) [09:33] well, they just say the protocol sint recognised [09:34] oh? Care to logout in? Maybe io-slave don't get picked up dynamicly update. Anything in ~/.xsession-error? [09:34] meh, too much hassle for a logout at the mo [09:34] building [09:35] Mez: 'k (hint: you need a testuser account for display :1) [09:35] o_O === m-fox [~m-fox@port-212-202-9-78.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:01] tech board, #ubuntu-meeting, now [10:14] Riddell, I'm assuming you're there for me? [10:15] I'm always here for you baby [10:21] o_O [10:21] dont let Emily hear you say that === m-fox [~m-fox@port-212-202-9-78.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [11:43] <\sh> Riddell: thx for all :) [11:43] very welcome [11:50] \sh, Mez: contratulation! [11:50] ty :D [11:50] congratulation even [11:53] <\sh> thx :)