=== sani [~sani@p50919E18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === MikeStyle [~mike@ip68-101-255-230.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:06] hi, um using ark and/or archive manager with the .rar plugin is there anyway to enter a password for a protected archive? [12:07] ... === _micha [~micha@e178148183.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Zugwrack [~Zugwrack@cpe-24-162-23-251.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === pax [pax@dd05.us] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === LuNaTiK^GuY [~andrea@c211-85.i03-5.onvol.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:10] Hey there...I assume there is just a 64bit available using Ubuntu? A Kubuntu ver? [12:11] y is kwin-baghira not in my theme lists in control centre? [12:11] Sorry..I meant there is a 64bit version for ubuntulinux..what about kubuntu? [12:11] i'm not sure there is...but u can always install ubuntu and then do "sudo apt-get install kde-desktop" :) [12:13] LuNaTiK^Guy: Ok thanks...I figured as much..but if there were two iso's then why not just go with kubuntu...heh [12:13] i'm not sure there is/isn;t...never checked === |rockinnerd| [~chris@ppp-69-215-235-99.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:14] I noticed when I went to kubuntulinux.org it was all in German...and my German isn't worth a hoot. [12:14] <|rockinnerd|> The application 'kwalletmanager' has requested access to the open wallet 'kdewallet'. Allow this? [12:15] <|rockinnerd|> ^^ oxymoronish, i think [12:16] <_jpowers> not really, if you think of them as separate things. [12:16] <_jpowers> on the other hand, I think it's probably not as user friendly as it could be. === _jpowers is now known as jpowers [12:16] <|rockinnerd|> true [12:17] i installed kwin-baghira from repos...but its not in the control centre..........plz help :) === troglodyt [~user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:17] LuNaTiK^GuY: you could try logging out and logging back into kde. [12:17] but I'm not sure that's a solution [12:17] <-- n00b [12:18] i did so [12:18] didnt work [12:18] find /usr -name kwin-baghira does work...i.e it is installed ;) [12:18] LuNaTiK^GuY: you don't see it under window decorations? [12:19] yes its there :) [12:19] wooops [12:19] itot it was a whole theme [12:19] not a win decoration [12:19] :( [12:19] <|rockinnerd|> what is the program that listens on the AIM port? [12:20] huh? [12:20] |rockinnerd|: what do you mean? === troglodyt [~user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _emmanuel [~emmanuel@bne75-4-82-226-116-58.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:20] <|rockinnerd|> It listens on the port for AOL Instant Messenger, (a console app) and prints the output of the convo or logs it [12:20] LuNaTiK^GuY: it's a windeco and a widget style, I think. [12:21] |rockinnerd|: no idea...didn't know that existed. interesting. [12:22] <_emmanuel> Hello ! :-) === Jeezis [nobody@jeezis.user] has joined #kubuntu [12:23] hi _emmanuel [12:23] <|rockinnerd|> i saw it in MultiTool Linux, but i cant seem to find the companion site [12:23] you might be able to rig something up with bitlbee. [12:24] but it's not ideally suited to your needs, I think [12:24] <|rockinnerd|> !bitlbee [12:24] I haven't a clue, |rockinnerd| === cabajgtr [~ben@h-67-101-115-18.snfccasy.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:24] <|rockinnerd|> jpowers: i just am using it for personal use. === stibby [~sbcl3@pcp0010580302pcs.coatsv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:25] <_emmanuel> Sorry if I am the ten thousandth guy that asks that, but my win and Fat 32 don't mount, and I need to access them : could somebody tell me where to find some help please ? [12:25] Can anyone help me with Grub on a dualboot thinkpad? [12:25] |rockinnerd|: I used to use bitlbee when I didn't want to run a gui client. It's a pretty neat tool, or was back then. [12:26] i;ve heard mixed things about bitlbee [12:26] <|rockinnerd|> maybe dsniff will do it === othernoob [~othernoob@p54A2C4E7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:26] _emmanuel: you need to get smbfs (apt-get install smbfs) [12:26] i use gaim for instant messaging and xchat for irc [12:26] cabajgtr: to access a local partition? [12:26] gaim's irc client still needs some work methinks [12:27] _emmanuel: do you get an error? [12:27] Jeezis: kopete's does too. [12:27] I had dual boot working, Kubuntu on sda2, but then a parsed up my hd, and added a logical partition, and i'm guessing it moved somthing weird, cuz grub gives an error on boot [12:27] jpowers: ick, i never liked kopete [12:27] could never get things working just how i wanted [12:28] Jeezis: I understand what you mean. In kopete's case I molded my needs to meet it rather than vice versa. :\ [12:28] I like the integration it has with kontact [12:28] <|rockinnerd|> cabajgtr, grab a knoppix cd and boot from it. [12:28] i'm up on an old sysrescue cd [12:28] <|rockinnerd|> chroot into your system [12:29] jpowers: arg, never surrender! :-p [12:29] Kubuntu is now on hda3 [12:29] I have mounted it === dargo is now known as dargo[Rolling] [12:29] <_emmanuel> cabajgtr: sorry, I was away, one minute... OK I try that [12:29] <_emmanuel> thx [12:29] actually, emmanuel, i was wrong [12:29] <|rockinnerd|> chroot /your/hda3/mountpoint [12:29] I was thinking network [12:29] you shouldnt need anyting to mount a fat32 [12:29] _emmanuel: are you mounting local partitions or network partitions? [12:30] what is chroot? [12:31] I can edit grub files as is... [12:31] <_emmanuel> local partitions [12:31] <_emmanuel> jpowers: local [12:31] jpowers: i've never used kontact too much [12:31] _emmanuel: does the partition show up in media:/? [12:31] <_emmanuel> I have one NTFS partition, and a second HD fat32 [12:32] <_emmanuel> jp : yes, they do, but unmounted [12:32] _emmanuel: what happens when you click them to mount them? === dargo[Rolling] is now known as dargoSmoke [12:32] Jeezis: I like kontact a lot. I wish someone would make the pocketpc sync stuff work better with kontact, though. [12:33] jpowers: what IS kontact? i've never really been interested in it before [12:33] <_emmanuel> jpowers: broken glass noise, and a "mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" message [12:34] Jeezis: kontact is a wrapper for a lot of the kde pim stuff. [12:34] <_emmanuel> jpowers: There are also 2 partitions that appear to be wrong sized [12:34] <_emmanuel> jpowers: one 1Kb, and one 830 Mb [12:34] Jeezis: korganizer, kmail, akregator, etc. [12:34] jpowers: ah, i understan [12:34] d === pax [pax@dd05.us] has joined #kubuntu === Jeezis aways for food [12:35] _emmanuel: that's strange. I don't really know what the issue is. [12:35] _emmanuel: have you tried mounting them from the command line? [12:35] is Kubuntu like linux or something like that? [12:35] <_emmanuel> jpowers: no, I haven't [12:35] <_emmanuel> pax: it IS Linux [12:35] _emmanuel: that's probably your best bet. [12:36] pax: I heard it was like t3h l00nix [12:36] ;) [12:36] hehe [12:37] _emmanuel: once you get it to mount successfully from the command line, add the correct info to your fstab. [12:37] _emmanuel: I don't know if that's the kubuntu way to do it. [12:37] some of my information is a little out of date [12:37] that's the way I'd do it, though. [12:37] <_emmanuel> Ok, I'll try that [12:37] <_emmanuel> thx jpowers === FireEgl [~FireEgl@68.220.225.67] has joined #Kubuntu [12:39] Can anybody help me with an GRUB Error 17? [12:40] how does PC-BSD compare to Ubuntu? [12:41] cabajgtr: what are you trying to do? [12:42] I had a successful dualboot from one harddrive in my thinkpad [12:42] I used partition magic to shrink my first (windowsNTFS) drive and used the free space for a shared Fat32 drive [12:43] my linux partition is at the end of my drive, it was sda2 (hd0,1 in grub) [12:43] but now it has become sda3 [12:44] Error 17 indicates GRUB can't id the partition type like you said. Check http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting [12:45] yeah, but any idea how to fix it? === FireEgl [~FireEgl@68.220.225.67] has joined #Kubuntu === dargoSmoke is now known as dargo [12:48] I don't want to give you wrong answer, but I would try to run grub: # grub > root (hd0,0) grub> setup (hd0) and quit === supernix [~steve@68-189-171-230.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:49] is that some sort of auto detect? [12:49] if (hd0,0) is not the right one, use tab for the list [12:50] well it's a shot to restore grub to the MBR === hippie [~hippie@pc-200-74-33-41.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [~ubuntu@d205-250-53-34.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:56] shouldn't it be the other way around? [12:56] kubuntu has joined #ubuntu [12:56] Hey, I'm just trying out the live cd for kubuntu for my ibook [12:56] i was wondering. [12:56] heh [12:56] its not letting me connect via kopete [12:56] hmm, device doesnt exist, but I can't get it to display partitions === dooglio is not a big fan of kopete [12:57] keeps saying my passwords wrong.. [12:57] gaim works a heck of a lot better [12:57] yah but it was the only thing on my live cd. [12:57] bummer [12:57] i think [12:57] lemme check. [12:57] if it's kunbuntu, i imagine gaim would not be installed [12:57] I can't remember that grub page in the wiki .. it was great === tag [~tag@dsl-213-023-254-097.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:58] !grub [12:58] hmm... grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto [12:58] nah not that one [12:59] cabajgtr: here it is, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows === ubuntu is now known as andrewguy === Jeezis [nobody@jeezis.user] has joined #kubuntu === delltony [~delltony@c-24-99-11-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === emkay [~emkay@p548058F1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === andrewguy [~andrew@d205-250-53-34.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:18] hey? [01:18] hi [01:18] gotta question for you guys.. [01:18] hah i'm really noob [01:18] i'll admit [01:18] at least to Linux [01:18] but how do i get back into the GUI from the terminal in kubuntu [01:19] did you ctrl alt f2 or something like that? to go to a virtual shell? [01:19] if so alt f7 should bring you back to the gui [01:19] nope, I hit alt crt delete [01:20] and it brougt me to terminal for some reason. [01:20] you can try and run sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start [01:21] or type startx [01:21] nice thanks man.. [01:21] whats startx mean anyways? [01:21] i starts the x server [01:21] without x you get no gui === MCCPicky [~ubuntu@CPE-60-229-151-196.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === hon [~hon@khordad.ee.queensu.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:22] have you did a full shutdown now -r to reboot? === _hon [~hon@khordad.ee.queensu.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:23] since you wanted to do that with control alt backbackspace restarts x by the way not ctrl alt delete [01:24] did the forementioned work? === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.22] has joined #kubuntu [01:28] yeah it worked thanks man. [01:28] If I got this right.. [01:28] Ubuntu is gnome [01:29] and Kubuntu is KDE [01:29] ? === crimsun [~crimsun@rchp4.rochester.ibm.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:30] yeah basically [01:30] kubuntu is ubuntu with kde === Egg098 [~Egg098@dsl-80-44-185-222.access.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu === Egg098 [~Egg098@dsl-80-44-185-222.access.as9105.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === Egg098 [~Egg098@dsl-80-44-185-222.access.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:31] but you can have several different managers running [01:31] for instance i have flux,kde and gnome [01:31] all on ubuntu === Jeezis [nobody@jeezis.user] has joined #kubuntu [01:43] delltony: why do you have flux kde and gnome? === aseigo [~aseigo@aseigo.kde] has joined #kubuntu === jochen [~jochen@p549D29BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === sebastien [~sebastien@lns-vlq-13-nan-62-147-202-135.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === filo [~filo@ip216-239-85-89.vif.net] has joined #kubuntu === mdipi [~mdipi@ip70-188-157-196.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:00] Hey guys, I updated my OS X and now Yaboot doesnt show up at the begining of boots [02:01] anyone think they know a workaround? or a way to help? === karlchen [~karlchen@p54A238D0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [02:12] i was checking them out as a school project my primary one uses only kde === aseigo [~aseigo@aseigo.kde] has joined #kubuntu [02:14] gah!! [02:14] i really love how the postfix documentation fails to make a big deal out of the fact that it all runs in a chroot, so you need to copy chunks of /etc === JayParadise [~james@cpe-024-211-050-039.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === redguy [~mati@aia228.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu === _otep [~otep@AP-203.167.31.177.sysads.com] has joined #kubuntu === _otep i only have 70K left on my "/", anyone can tell me what should i do? =( === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:49] _otep: uninstall anything you don't really need [02:49] <_otep> that i did [02:49] <_otep> kdevelop is the first one to go [02:50] <_otep> am thinking of removing kynaptic but that also removes kde-desktop [02:51] kde-desktop is a meta package, it is only useful for upgrades, you may remove it. [02:52] if you have both amarok and kafeine installed, remove amarok and keep kaffeine. [02:52] <_otep> oh... [02:53] <_otep> you sure with that? heheh [02:54] yeah kaffeine will play both audio and video. [02:55] kaffeine uses xine engine [02:55] <_otep> hmmm\ [02:55] <_otep> ok === _martin [~martin@ppp-82-135-15-164.mnet-online.de] has joined #kubuntu === _martin is now known as BorisH [02:56] <_otep> uhhh [02:56] Riddell: Thanks for the koffice 1.4.1 packages. you guys are awesome. most recent kde and most recent koffice. This is truly great work. [02:56] <_otep> any warranty? [02:56] <_otep> j/k [02:57] also if you have documents of personal files and you have a cd burner, move them to a cd [02:58] don't remove kynaptic however unless you have synaptic installed. [03:00] <_otep> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/765 === sedeki [~sedeki@81-232-166-56-no30.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:02] why is that partitioned to a lot of drives? [03:02] <_otep> hda6-7? [03:02] yeah [03:03] <_otep> someone i know told me to do that [03:03] <_otep> i had this problem, sort of, before [03:04] that wan not really necessary, I know some keep /home on a different drive. although you seem to have enough space left in /usr and that's were most programs are installed [03:04] <_otep> i reinstalled and did his suggestion for the partitioning [03:04] <_otep> yeah [03:04] <_otep> im thinking of resizing "/" [03:05] <_otep> but gparted just shows the partitions [03:05] <_otep> cant resize 'em [03:05] are you in as root? [03:05] <_otep> nope [03:06] <_otep> normal user [03:06] heh...type 'sudo gparted' [03:06] that might work [03:07] <_otep> ok ill try [03:07] I still have 26 GB empty left and I'm pretty sure the rest of the guys here have more ( just thought I would rub that in lol ). Shame on me lol :) [03:07] just kidding [03:07] <_otep> ahhah [03:08] <_otep> actually im just trying out kubuntu and i liked it [03:09] <_otep> went on installing other packages not minding im using only a 10GB hd [03:09] can gparted actually resize partitions? [03:09] well 10GB is usually more than enough. [03:09] it can [03:09] <_otep> stibby: right-click only shows umount and information, i mean resize is shaded [03:10] you may lose data, however [03:10] hmm [03:10] yeah it's never safe to resize partitions [03:11] I have to reboot, brb good luck _otep [03:11] <_otep> hahah === _otep cries like a fscking baby === _otep =,,,( [03:12] <_otep> maybe i should just get a bigger hd === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@adsl-69-227-57-228.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #KUBUNTU === _hon [~hon@khordad.ee.queensu.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === hon [~hon@khordad.ee.queensu.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === hon [~hon@khordad.ee.queensu.ca] has joined #kubuntu === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [03:17] <_otep> yo [03:17] _otep: what did you decide to do? [03:18] <_otep> i asked on #ubuntu =D [03:18] that would work :) === sedeki [~sedeki@81-232-166-56-no30.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === sedeki [~sedeki@81-232-166-56-no30.tbcn.telia.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [03:20] <_otep> hahah === rhodry [~rhodry@ppp28-135.lns1.syd2.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu === rhodry [~rhodry@ppp28-135.lns1.syd2.internode.on.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [03:33] <_otep> yo [03:36] hey [03:37] has anyone ever tried to get a firmware update from lite-on? [03:37] <_otep> am trying to umount /usr, getting a "device is busy" [03:37] not surprising [03:38] <_otep> oh =D [03:39] not surprising that /usr is in use, given how much stuff is in, say /usr/bin [03:39] !;) [03:39] Dhraakellian: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? [03:39] would someone please try to get ANY firmware from http://www.liteonit.com/ODD/English/e_downloads/e_firmware_cd-rw.asp [03:39] quiet, bot. The belt on the weird guy's head is none of your concern [03:40] _otep, trying to repartition or resize partitions? [03:40] <_otep> yup [03:40] I'd probably do stuff like that from a liveCD [03:40] <_otep> hmmmm [03:40] <_otep> right [03:40] <_otep> havent thought of that [03:41] is there any recent developement around kynaptic? [03:41] or should we really use synaptic instead? === Dhraakellian feels kind of ashamed using synaptic so much [03:42] why do you even use synaptic? [03:42] coming from gentoo and doing all the package management from the commandline [03:42] I am still using kynaptic + vim /etc/apt/source.list [03:42] but I think this should get really improved for all the users [03:43] not just command liners ;) [03:43] heh [03:45] is there anyone trying to *cough* fork *cough* synaptic? [03:46] because it doesn't seem to have any complicated parts, or maybe I am wrong :) === jake1 [~catrin@pool-68-163-167-42.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:47] after gimp and inkscape I really don't want to get depended on another gtk app [03:47] i have a question that maybe one can help me with [03:48] i installed Ubuntu and then i set up my repositories in order to get Kubuntu and i did, but unfortunately when i boot now all i get is the Kubuntu login panel but not the GUI [03:48] the KDE GUI that is [03:48] is there something i am doing wrong [03:48] do you have kdm installed? [03:48] i think that it did install it [03:49] /etc/init.d/kdm start [03:49] it asked me what i would like to use for my default [03:49] and the options were gdm and kdm [03:49] i selected kdm [03:52] Dhraakellian i typed that in (it required sudo) but the output says "Starting K Display Manager" "[fail] " [03:52] EOL [03:52] does startx work? [03:52] EOL (end of line) [03:53] Fatal server error: server is already active for display 0 if this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.XO-lock and start again [03:54] sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop [03:54] sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start [03:54] stopped [03:54] back to a >console type interface [03:55] with terminal output reading "Linux login:" [03:55] then login [03:55] and then type /etc/init.d/kdm start [03:56] hld on [03:56] ok... [03:56] now i am at the kubuntu login panel.. which was working before [03:56] i will login [03:56] and see if KDE is there or if it swaps back to gnome [03:57] nope [03:57] back at gnome [03:57] hmm on that login thing if i'm not mistaken isn't there a session selector? [03:57] jake1: are you selecting KDE from the sessions menu when logging in? [03:58] :) [03:58] no aseigo i am not [03:58] should i be? [03:58] lol === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [03:59] make it default [03:59] yeah its just a different interface the session might still be defaulted to gnome instead of kde [03:59] please hold [03:59] i had to change mine to kde now that i think of it [03:59] ok... little drop down menu had kde listed [04:00] i selected it [04:00] now login and "should" work [04:00] it is now initializing system service [04:00] which is definately different [04:00] its working ;) [04:00] why cnt things happen automatically [04:00] why can't i be a millionare? [04:00] like those machines that inject cream into your hostess cupcakes [04:01] those are automatic [04:01] set it and forget it === Dr_Melectaus [~ryan@ACC8B7E5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:01] i want a automatic date from hot girls :D [04:01] :-\ [04:01] me too [04:01] the KDE seems to take a little bit longer than gnome to load [04:01] try gentoo one day and see how much ubuntu makes your life easy [04:01] delltony, khotnewchicks? [04:01] haha [04:02] indeed [04:02] im gonna laugh my ass off if apt-cache search shows that [04:02] gentoo and kubuntu both have their advantages [04:02] Dhraakellian, true [04:02] does ubuntu support drivers for Apple's Airport extreme [04:02] i use gentoo stricky for my server [04:02] http://theobromas.blogspot.com/2005/05/new-resources-urgently-needed.html [04:02] jake do this man [04:02] take note of this very good tip [04:03] apropos [04:03] jake1: yes, it does load for a bit longer. a combination of having more infrastructure in the desktop and the lame ass slowness of the gnu toolchain at runtime linking of c++ apps [04:03] type apropos and it will tell you what packages have the stuff === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [04:04] that's a whatis database in UNIX i believe [04:04] aseigo, out of curiosity, what distro did you use before kubuntu? [04:04] specifically for strigs [04:05] err. [04:05] strings [04:05] Dhraakellian: same ones i'm still using ;) [04:05] heh [04:05] multiple computers? [04:05] Dhraakellian: i'm typing this on my laptop which is running suse. i have two boxes with kubuntu here though [04:05] yes.. a few of them [04:05] anyone ever gotten sl-modem to install on ubuntu hoary? [04:06] suse is on my list of distros to try [04:06] it's pretty good indeed [04:06] I think I'll probably stick with kubuntu until at least KDE 3.5 [04:06] so I can see what the upgrade is like [04:06] i'm running the 686-smp image and i get sl-modem-modules-new depend errors [04:07] mmmm... [04:07] so much juicier kde is [04:07] not trying to start a bash herre but why do folks like gnome so much i hate it. if i want something like that without all the bells and whistles then hell ill just run flux and make the damn thing how i want it [04:08] maybe kde reminds them so much of windows [04:08] and they don't like that === Dhraakellian actually installed e17 on here yesterday [04:08] i guess [04:08] i mean the K is the start menu [04:08] well true but i have a girl in a thong on mine [04:09] change kside.jpg :) [04:09] and the banner on the side you can make it to whatever you want [04:09] jake1, KDE can look like windows [04:09] it can also look like a mac [04:09] it can also look like something totally unique [04:09] all i can say is this [04:10] i was shy of linux for a long time till i stepped into gentoo [04:10] and when i found out that i set it up and forget about it [04:10] heh [04:10] then i loved linux and never looked back [04:10] ubuntu is cool in that you don't have to freakin compile everything. [04:10] it pisses folks off at work when i run two os's at the same time [04:10] at the same time? === Dhraakellian notes that the location of his kmenu is probably closer to the location of the little apple icon in the corner of the screen on Mac OS [04:10] yeah [04:10] wine? [04:11] blah vmware [04:11] Dhraakellian: you know any good sources for KDE themes and what not [04:11] how usable is that really? [04:11] to give it a whole new unique look [04:11] jake1, kde-look.org [04:11] very actually [04:11] cause if it borks you just hit reload snapshot [04:11] and bam instant back to where you left off [04:11] it virtual boots so takes no time [04:11] good idea [04:11] if apps are using my dvd drive and experience weird exits, or problems, the drive won't eject and i can't find a way to make it usable again without rebooting. [04:12] anyone have any idea what i can do? [04:12] i shall give that a looksie [04:12] not even sudo eject works [04:12] jake1, and its sister site, kde-apps.org, has a bunch of kde-based applications that aren't shipped with KDE itself === d [~d@213.78.209.47] has joined #kubuntu [04:12] you type sudo eject /dev/hdc [04:12] i'll tryy [04:12] being hdc as your dvd or cdrom [04:12] what is the kde gui for enabling/disabling system daemons called? [04:12] eject alone always works [04:12] except when the drive "freezes" [04:12] d use bum [04:13] hdc is not my cdrom though [04:13] boot up manager [04:13] mmmmmm... apps [04:13] i like apps [04:13] they are sexy [04:13] the eject command is in a non-killable status. [04:13] frozen [04:14] big fat D [04:14] dell: do you know what the kde method involves- there is a front end to enable ssh and stuff === BROKEN_LADDER reboots :( [04:14] well bum shows all the stuff in init.d [04:14] and you can turn it on and off [04:14] how come my wireless cards signal meter is not in the panel [04:14] to make it load with the rcupdate === evwr [~evwr@r02epwb66.desktop.umr.edu] has joined #kubuntu [04:16] you can also try a terminal version which i like better d [04:16] called rcconf === evwr [~evwr@r02epwb66.desktop.umr.edu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:16] how can i tell which version of KDE this is? [04:16] i just loaded it now and ssh is here with a * in it indicating its running on the runlevel [04:17] do all the themes and styles work with one another [04:17] jake1: control center ? [04:18] to your ..which kde version this is -question [04:18] othernoob: where in the control center [04:18] ? [04:19] eh.. when you open it it should be right there KDE VERSION: 3.4.0 for example.. on the right side === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@adsl-69-227-57-228.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #KUBUNTU [04:19] ah [04:19] ok [04:19] hld on a jiff [04:19] 3.4.0 [04:21] which theme do you guys like the most [04:22] lipstick is pretty good i used it for a while [04:22] Plastik is the best KDE theme [04:23] aww i have to agree [04:23] fuck... there is no point in getting a new theme [04:23] i jst noticed that i have a really tiny dead pixel on my LCD [04:23] man [04:24] aww my childish eyes :( [04:24] now it's all messed up [04:24] NOTHING WILL BE THE SAME EVER AGAIN [04:24] i like keramik :) but plastik rocks as well [04:24] plastik widget style, crystal windec [04:24] it might be spunk rub it off ;) [04:25] and icon set, color scheme, and wallpapers vary [04:25] any of you guys know of a good source of "internet tv"..like news, tech, whatever in something like ogg theora? [04:25] or any format really.. [04:26] freely available mind you.. [04:26] i want to find like a Matrix theme [04:26] that would be kinda cool [04:27] you mean with the transparent everything? [04:27] yea sure [04:28] why not [04:28] BROKEN_LADDER, you ever watch Systm ? aka "the broken" [04:28] haven't figured how to do it in kde but in flux you can make eveything transparent [04:29] is there an app for linux that works with iTunes music Sharing [04:29] cuz that would be kinda cool [04:29] to play itunes? [04:30] yea to play the music being shared from iTunes library [04:30] jake1 type this you using xchat? [04:31] huh?? [04:31] yea i am [04:31] but not on Linux [04:31] on Tiger [04:31] with my G5 [04:31] never heard of it [04:31] well none the less on the linux box type apt-cache search itunes [04:31] you will get the following [04:31] juk - music organizer and player for KDE [04:31] pymusique - iTMS client [04:32] ah [04:32] i think os x is vile. [04:32] pymusicque i thnk s your answer [04:32] absolutely it is [04:32] what is "pure kgx"? [04:32] every time apple hacks it so pymusique breaks, it just gets hacked to work again. [04:32] kde gnu/linux xorg? [04:32] I like osx [04:33] I run osx on my mac [04:33] well its like drms they take and change the stuff for it and folks hack it ove and over and over [04:33] I think it works pretty well and it's quite pretty. [04:33] but i hate wmvs so i don't even bother [04:33] osx just feels so bulky and slow === JayParadise [~james@cpe-024-211-050-039.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:34] oh and by the way you guys into dvds and xvid? === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:34] :-\ [04:34]