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[09:21] J'ai .... fam === rtcm [~jman@217.129.142.72] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jan1 grumbles, should have learnt spanish [09:21] jan1: we were trying to talk french :) [09:21] I know mr owner-of-murphy :) === Mez rit [09:22] they took my real mick [09:22] nick [09:22] jan1: who did? [09:22] someone who is prolly also called jani [09:22] ;) [09:23] jan1, didnt register it ? [09:23] ogra, I guess not :) [09:23] you really should [09:23] I am still an irc noob === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-14-228.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:27] seb128: WOOHOO! :) [09:27] hey daniel [09:27] TB today? [09:27] yeah [09:27] the hall is filling up... [09:27] 22:00 our time [09:28] TB in 30 mins :D [09:28] w00t [09:28] :P === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:33] Heya madduck [09:33] hi [09:34] t'aimes parler le franais de temps en temps, monsieur dholbach ? :) [09:35] JanC: de temps en temps, mais il me faut apprendre plus :) === seb128_ [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-38-197.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === \sh [~sh@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:39] bnt, c'est une distro franaise? [09:39] mais alors, c'est riglo! [09:44] gooie naant almal [09:44] ek gaan gou koffie kry, voor die afskraak begin [09:45] <\sh> JaneW: thank u very much :) [09:46] <\sh> finally another coffee junky ,-) [09:47] was that Dutch or Afrikaans? [09:47] <\sh> afrikaans [09:47] \sh lol [09:47] they look pretty similiar from distance at least :) [09:47] \sh wasn;t sure if anyone would understand [09:47] <\sh> JaneW: I can understand a bit :) [09:48] <\sh> at least: koffie [09:48] <\sh> lol [09:48] <\sh> ek = I [09:48] yes it is pretty similar to dutch, but with less funny characters I think [09:48] JaneW: if you know english and german, afrikaans can be read most of the times. at least the gist can be extracted most of the time. [09:48] good night all, someone does soemthing with a coffe before the meeting begins? [09:48] OH yeah smoke break, good idea :-) \sh care to join me.. ;-P [09:48] and visa versa and can figure out a lot of german (and norwegian) from knowing afrikaans [09:49] s/visa/vice/ IIRC [09:49] but yeah [09:49] sorry [09:50] sorry? dude... :) === gothcat [gothcat@c-459571d5.07-44-73746f50.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:50] anyway since everyone else seems to speak other languages, I thought I'd give it a try - not that my afrikaans is very good anyway. [09:50] where are you from? [09:50] <\sh> janew: there is a funny word..."mapumpaan" or something? My ex never told me how to write it ,-) [09:50] what? [09:50] meaning... [09:51] madduck: SA === Nafallo introduces his girlfriend gothcat to the world ;-) [09:51] JaneW: nice! i love your country! === joolz [~joolz@kiar.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:51] hi gothcat [09:51] <\sh> actually something like "lovley idiot" I actually don't know..she never gave me the meaning...but every time I smashed a glas, "Look, you mampumpaan" or something like this [09:51] madduck: I think it's pretty cool too [09:51] JaneW: hi [09:52] not mampaara ? [09:52] Hey madduck, how's it going [09:52] pitti! [09:52] <\sh> JaneW: well...I wrote it like it sounds in german ,-) [09:52] <\sh> JaneW: forget it ... totally OT :) [09:53] pitti: i am ready to roll but things are holding me back. see mail. there are two other non-debian projects like that. but i'm good. vacation on friday! [09:53] and i am reading this paper about a high-level cognitive architecture for robots and it's making me laugh. [09:55] 5 minutes === sistpoty [~stefan@DSL01.212.114.237.5.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:55] <\sh> g'evening sistpoty [09:55] hi sh [09:55] gna, i can't type your nick g [09:56] <\sh> sistpoty: i use xmodmap i know ;) [09:57] \sh :D [10:00] Tue Jul 26 20:00:18 UTC 2005 === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:00] good morning [10:00] evening mdz === Keybuk [~scott@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:01] Keybuk: will "the sab" be joining us today? [10:02] bread roll sent ... [10:02] I think so [10:02] did you just throw a bread roll at him scorr? === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-18.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:03] s/scorr/scott/ [10:03] pretty much [10:03] did it work? [10:04] not sure ... [10:04] sistpoty: are you here? [10:04] \sh: and you? [10:04] <\sh> yes [10:04] yes [10:04] <\sh> I'm here [10:04] excellent [10:04] lol :D I like the cheek Keybuk [10:04] how about the MOTU candidates? * [10:04] AnkurKotwal [10:04] * [10:04] RajasekarKarthik [10:04] * [10:05] Stefanpotyra [10:05] * [10:05] JorgeDaza [10:05] * [10:05] SebastianDroege [10:05] * [10:05] MartinMeredith [10:05] * [10:05] BarrydeFreese [10:05] * [10:05] ChristianBjlevik [10:05] firefox cut and paste leaves something to be desired [10:05] <\sh> Unfrgiven was approved (AnkurKotwal) [10:05] Mez: you're here [10:05] AnkurKotwal (unfrgiven) already IS a MOTU [10:05] AnkurKotwal is already MOTU but didnt show up for some time [10:05] yes, I'm here [10:05] hmm, the page is out of date [10:05] SebastianDroege <--- that's me [10:05] dholbach,ogra: please remove anyone who was already processed [10:05] mdz: I'm here (ChristianBjlevik) [10:05] <-- Barry deFreese === sistpoty is Stefanpotyra [10:05] mdz: i was invited to join [10:05] MartinKrafft [10:06] <-- Martin Meredith === siretart [siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === sabdfl [~mark@sabdfl.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:06] hi all [10:06] mdz, done [10:06] mdz: i'd have preferred if he had proudly removed himself from that list, but i'll caretake next time :) [10:06] apologies for being late [10:06] where are we on the agenda? [10:06] madduck: you're on the "needs to show up again" list, which means you were on the list for a previous meeting but weren't present for consideration [10:06] sabdfl: we just started :) [10:06] sabdfl: just sorting maintainer candidates [10:06] thanks [10:06] hi sabdfl [10:06] madduck: go ahead and move your name up to the top [10:06] sabdfl, was the bread roll stale? [10:06] Hello sabdfl [10:07] Mez: spectacularly [10:07] :) [10:07] ogra: thanks [10:07] hey madduck, welcome [10:08] ok, starting from the top then [10:08] is RajasekarKarthik present? === ogra has no idea who that is [10:08] <\sh> I didn't know him, honestly [10:08] ok, -> needs to show up again [10:09] karthik085 [10:09] sabdfl: thanks & hi [10:09] who didnt show up to CC either [10:09] Stefanpotyra [10:09] # [10:09] ? [10:09] so isnt a member [10:09] <\sh> yeah..but I never saw him on motu [10:09] Mez, i can read ;) [10:09] Stefanpotyra is /me [10:09] ogra - hit enter by msitake - was saying he;s not a meber [10:09] sistpoty: welcome [10:09] sistpoty, i havent seen many packages of you yet ... [10:10] hadn't much time recently... will be better after thursday [10:10] sistpoty, have you any more references ? [10:10] (exams) [10:10] ah [10:10] no more than on the wiki page [10:10] there's no rush; we can always consider you at a later date when you've had more time to devote to MOTU work [10:10] no problem for me ;) [10:10] sistpoty: thanks for working on ghc6 [10:10] you === elmo [~james@83-216-156-21.jamest747.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:10] + re welcome [10:11] sistpoty, yeah, and thatks for the revu work :) [10:11] thanks even [10:11] <\sh> sistpoty is one of our revu guys... [10:11] sistpoty: just add yourself to the agenda again when the time comes [10:11] ok, i will do so [10:11] sistpoty: welcome, it's good to have you here. it takes a little while to get everyone up to speed on your contribution, so make sure to keep a record of stuff you do, on your wiki page [10:12] ok, and thanks [10:12] next, JorgeDaza [10:12] does anyone know Jorge's IRC nick? [10:12] <\sh> comadreja [10:12] comadreja [10:12] comadreja: ping? [10:12] mdz, i'd like to see him as motu === hughsie [~hughsie@host86-132-126-70.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:12] he's comadrej, but his wife has her b-day oday [10:13] comadreja even [10:13] he aplologized before [10:13] <\sh> comadreja was working with me on the merger list and did quite good work [10:13] siretart: nice icons for revu2 :-) [10:13] his packaging skills improved a lot over the last weeks [10:13] ogra: we can consider him in absentia if there are sufficient references [10:13] i only heard good stuff about about him (but was away from irc the last ... hum ... days) [10:14] sabdfl: most planning work up to know was from sistpoty ;) - but thanks :) [10:14] mdz, i'd like to hear something from \sh or siretart [10:14] who has been sponsoring his uploads? === \sh was it [10:14] \sh, what do you think ? ready enough ? === siretart sponsored mainly slomo [10:14] <\sh> most of the time..if there wasn't a debdiff applied I mentioned this in the changelog incl. bug entry [10:14] \sh, but were the debdiffs you saw ok ? [10:15] <\sh> ogra: yes very good...no bugs [10:15] oki... [10:15] brb.. loo [10:15] I'm confident that he knows how to make packages, according to what I have seen from revu so far [10:15] so there would be a +1 from me... [10:15] siretart, thats what i wanted to hear ;) [10:15] seems good enough for MOTU and membership [10:15] agreed [10:15] agree [10:16] yep [10:16] cool :) [10:16] <\sh> and another plus is: he is freelancer and has sometimes more time then I have :) [10:16] freelancers don't have time. :) [10:16] hehe [10:16] i guess that's 3 out of 3 :-) [10:16] which is near impossible ;) [10:16] comadreja: welcome to the team [10:16] yay... i'll mail him :) [10:16] backl [10:16] who will pass the news on? [10:16] ok [10:16] Mez is up next [10:16] thanks ogra [10:16] isnt slomo up next? [10:17] Mez: you're right, my cursor was wrong [10:17] :P [10:17] slomo: are you here? [10:17] he is for sure [10:17] yes, i'm here [10:17] slomo gets my vote even though I don't get one :-) [10:17] :) [10:17] slomo... i guess there is consensus among MOTU for him [10:17] he did really rocking work for MOTUMedia, and used revu quite a lot [10:17] he gets mine as well - i sponsored some uploads for him and he did excellent work on finding patches and he works nicely with the team, [10:17] OR AM I WRONG ?? [10:18] bddebian: testimonials count, if you can elaborate a bit about your experience working with slomo [10:18] :) [10:18] <\sh> yes..he's doing good work and fixes my bloody typos ,-) === ertert [~legolas@port-212-202-9-78.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:18] mdz: Slomo has been very helpful/supportive of my efforts [10:18] \sh - you missed out an eye again [10:18] he did real rocking work in helping fellow MOTU's and MOTUs to be in #ubuntu-motu [10:18] sounds like a ringing endorsement from MOTU [10:18] absolutely [10:18] he's done grat work [10:18] great even [10:18] slomo's helped out a lot with me aswell [10:18] Oh you beat me to it ogra :-) [10:19] + he's a backporter - so even better :D [10:19] \sh: I need someone to do that for me ;) [10:19] Keybuk,sabdfl: votes? [10:19] ++ [10:19] slomo: can you say in one sentence where you'd like to take ubuntu? in the sense of how you'd like to enhance it and which areas you'd like to contribute to? [10:19] <\sh> JaneW: ask slomo, he's quite good in things like this :) [10:20] sabdfl: i want to help wherever i can... mostly fixing bugs, packaging new stuff (mostly multimedia related) and so on... and i'm searching for new areas where i can be useful ;) [10:20] ok. great endorsements from the MOTU, so +1 from me [10:20] <\sh> slomo said to me, he will cxx trans the ace package :) [10:20] slomo: what specific areas of multimedia interest you, out of curiosity? [10:20] \sh: psss ;) i'll try but i can't promise anything [10:21] <\sh> slomo: I will help you when I can :) [10:21] slomo: great wiki page - makes it an easy +1 from me :-) [10:21] mdz: mostly supporting new formats... currently i'm working on a gst-plugins-multiverse package which was started by tseng [10:21] slomo: interesting, I'd like to hear more about it later [10:21] +1 from me [10:21] SUPER! :) [10:22] yay [10:22] thanks everybody :) [10:22] slomo: you did some work on the bug tracking system, are you interested in this work? [10:22] slomo: congratulations [10:22] wlcome ! [10:22] <\sh> slomo: welcome to the real world :) === Mez feels nervous [10:22] slomo: welcome to the team! :) === mdz shines the spotlight on Mez [10:22] drumroll [10:22] doko: what exactly do you mean? === Mez shines a laser at mdz [10:22] Mez has been spearheading the official backports project [10:22] slomo: let's delay that after the meeting [10:22] ...Mez sucks at persuading people to get his key signed ;o) === ogra thinks Mez should show us that he is capable to build empty packages ; [10:23] ;) === jasoncohen [~jason@pcp0011382713pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:23] doko: ok, fine with me :) [10:23] Keybuk - just cause I dont have enough money to buy you a pint or 7,or enough to travel [10:23] ogra: empty packages? === Mez slaps ogra [10:23] mdz, he wants to build a empty transition package [10:23] Mez has done quite a bunch of packages in revu, they looked fine so far.. [10:23] Mez: you have to buy elmo a pint, not Keybuk :-) [10:23] mdz, but didnt get it working today :) === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:24] pitti, to get Keybuk to sign my key [10:24] Mez has updated the k3b package which was great (and is now doing k3b-i18n) [10:24] ogra: yes, obviously, I've not made a blank package, but I'm working on it :D [10:24] but to be honest i think he's already in a state to build good "non-empty" packages ;) [10:24] Mez has been very active, we've corresponded a few times. can't comment on packaging but i do appreciate his input and ideas [10:24] It's really confusing D: [10:24] <\sh> I had an "quick" overview about the packages of Mez in REVU..and they looked quite good...but sometimes he's asking too many stupid questions ;-) [10:25] Mez: what sort of work have you done on kubuntu so far? [10:25] <\sh> mez is also doing quite good work with k3b [10:25] \sh - that'd be cause I'm nervous so far [10:25] <\sh> I think riddell can say also some things about mez [10:25] <\sh> Riddell: ping? [10:25] mdz: working on packaging k3b mainly, and I've packages konversation 0.18 [10:25] Mez, if you promise to ask twice for packages you cant cope with i'm fine with a +1 :) [10:25] carpet guy is at the door, back in a moment [10:25] ogra: I ask 3 times for packages I can lol - so thats nota problem [10:26] <\sh> Mez: u don't have too :) [10:26] heh [10:26] ogra: cope? coop? [10:26] cope [10:26] oh, and kubuntu - I'm also helping the katapult project along [10:26] mdz: send 'em home with carpet burns, i say [10:26] I support Mez's his maintainership === Nafallo gets the dictd [10:26] Nafallo, not cope -> coop rather ;) === sabdfl hopes bubbles isn't listening [10:26] \sh - I'm nbervous, I dont like getting things wrong and getting b***ched at for it :D === siretart also supports Mez. He was very helpful in #ubuntu-motu and is a really quick learner [10:27] I'd rather ask quesitons than act on intuition and get it wrong [10:27] <\sh> so +1 for Mez from me... [10:27] and: he is available :) [10:27] Mez: good approach [10:27] siretart, no, I have a gf :P [10:27] ;) === Yann2 [~Yann2@p54A5D7C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] [10:27] but I know what you mean [10:28] hmm, that could be a substantial draw on Mez's time ... :) [10:28] Mez: make your gf available to :-) [10:28] Keybuk: lol [10:28] Nafallo: That could be taken the wrong way.. ;-P [10:28] Nafallo, I'm trying to persuade her to move to kubuntu - but she doesnt wanna have to lose all her movies :D [10:28] <\sh> JaneW: yes it is... [10:28] bddebian: dooh! ;-) [10:28] I found dependency problems on konversation .18 and firefox 1.0.4 from backports-staging and Mez was on it almost immediately. he packaged and had a new konversation that same night (a dependency on kdelibs 3.4.1 prevented kubuntu-desktop from installing) [10:28] bddebian, Nafallo did that too, meet her in -artwork ;) [10:28] heh [10:28] ogra: gothcat is here ;-) [10:29] hi gothcat :) [10:29] but to be fair - my gf loves (k)ubuntu - and has done some artwork for it :D [10:29] *Shrugs* [10:29] when where are problems Mez fixes them immediately [10:29] ogra: hi *waves* [10:29] Mez, poke her to the artwork team ;) [10:29] <\sh> Mez: hug her :) love her :) don't give her away :) chain her with a ring ;) [10:29] heh :) [10:29] ogra :D will try [10:29] and \sh - all in due time [10:29] ok, mdz will be afk for a few minutes, i'll chair till he's back [10:30] Mez: you get +1 from me. keybuk? [10:30] \sh: give her to *ubuntu rather ;-) [10:30] ++ also === slomo also supports Mez, he helped me with some things, was really responsive and his stuff at revu looks fine for me ;) [10:30] ty sabdfl, keybuk (I'll get you a pint at some point whe/if I'm in brum) [10:30] that's post-bribery! [10:30] ok, Mez, in mdz's absence I'm happy to go with keybuk's +1 and mine [10:30] welcome aboard [10:30] yay [10:31] heh, that would involve _me_ being in Brum at some point! :-/ [10:31] hello MOTUMez [10:31] WOW! :) === sabdfl was already typing before the bribery came through.. Brazil lag is great :-) [10:31] heh [10:31] <\sh> Mez: welcome :) Backport MOTU SPOC :) [10:31] Mez: Congrats man :-) [10:31] Keybuk: somehow i think you always land with your Brum in the butter [10:31] hello [10:31] Mez: Welcome to the Team! :) [10:31] Mez: yay! congrats :-). [10:31] so it sems we have a MOTUBackports leader now :) [10:31] congrats Mez :) [10:31] Keybuk, yeah, thats what I though [10:31] :D [10:31] congrats comadreja :-) [10:31] <\sh> comadreja: congrats for becoming a MOTU dude :) [10:32] :D [10:32] comadreja: You, too! Welcome in MOTU Land ;) [10:32] and congrats comadreja :) [10:32] Yeah comadreja, congrats in absentia :-) [10:32] :D [10:32] comadreja, i just mailed you :) [10:32] bddebian: you're up! [10:32] thanks !!! [10:32] Uh oh [10:32] comadreja: welcome :-) [10:32] I found an open wlan [10:32] comadreja: :-) [10:32] I'm sitting on the street :D [10:32] hehe === Amaranth [~travis@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:32] comadreja: look out for those black helicopters [10:32] hey Amaranth [10:32] bddebian: don't leave after this. we need to talk zope-* [10:32] ogra: did we ever have so many MOTUs in one night? [10:32] enjoy the party and congrats to your wife for her b-day [10:32] morning Amaranth :-) [10:33] madduck: We do? [10:33] bddebian: we do. [10:33] dholbach, nope :) [10:33] madduck: OK [10:33] bddebian: how's NUN coming along? [10:33] ogra: it feels SOOO good :) [10:33] yeah !! [10:33] congratulations Mez [10:33] sabdfl, nun's coming along well :D [10:33] sabdfl: Good but to be honest I have been slacking a little with NUN lately trying to help with MOTUTOMerg [10:33] +e [10:33] wher you did a great job ! [10:33] ok [10:34] bddebian: where would you say you've been making your biggest contribution? [10:34] and do you have an area you'd like to focus on going forward from a code + packaging point of view? [10:34] <\sh> bddebian helped us a lot with tagging merge bugs... [10:34] we are down to less the 100 merges from 220 in 5 days ... [10:34] !!!!! [10:34] <\sh> ogra: under 100 [10:34] I hope the merge issues but I haven't gotten a great deal of feedback except from \sh [10:34] then even [10:34] bddebian: I saw some uploads with your name on them; who has been sponsoring you? [10:34] that's awesome bddebian - thanks! [10:34] sabdfl: Anywhere I can help to be honest [10:35] ahh, so it's bddebian that's been filling my INBOX, is it? :) [10:35] mdz: No one, that is part of the reason I have come. [10:35] Keybuk: Probably, sorry [10:35] Keybuk, yes [10:35] heh [10:35] bddebian: are you a gnome or kde type? or something lighter? [10:35] Keybuk: install procmail dude ;-) [10:35] bddebian: I don't follow; who has been uploading your packages for you? [10:35] <\sh> Keybuk: yes, with my name on it [10:35] Nafallo: I still read all the merge-o-matic traffic [10:35] mdz, \sh mostly [10:35] mdz: \sh for the merge stuff, I don't think anyone has looked at my REVU stuff [10:36] sabdfl: I probably don't have the skillset for that yet [10:36] \sh: what is your assessment of his packaging work? [10:36] bddebian: i hope we'll all cover some stuff on review day, 28th of july *hint hint* [10:36] bddebian, would you prefer to wait 2 weeks ? [10:36] \sh,bddebian: ah, so these were purely MOM output then? [10:36] dholbach: OK [10:36] mdz, yep [10:36] mdz: Which? [10:36] bddebian, the uploads [10:36] <\sh> mdz: yes..most of the time he tested the MOMs and tagged the bugs for me...so I could take it easily [10:36] morning *late* [10:37] Amaranth, we get used to it *g* [10:37] ogra: As with CC, I'm not expecting anything so if you all think I should wait, I am fine with that [10:37] Hello Amaranth [10:37] <\sh> mdz: after all, I'm lacking with reviewing...so someone else needs to talk about his new packages [10:37] bddebian, i'd like to see some more stuff from you beyond MOM [10:37] Fair enough [10:38] bddebian: you're making a big impression on the bug front, tagging etc, so your contribution is hugely appreciated [10:38] sabdfl: Thank you [10:38] on the packaging front, maybe find a package that really interests you and jazz it up some [10:38] isn't bddebian the weirdo behind the Debian GNU/Hurd stuff? [10:38] bddebian, but i'm sure youre good to go in weeks.... you'll get my vote, just go on as you do ;) [10:38] ogra: Have some suggestions [10:38] s/weeks/2 weeks [10:38] Amaranth: Yep :-) [10:38] <\sh> bddebian: We need you...you and your jokes :) and you and your knowledge..let's do some realwork and don't tell yourself, u r a noob, you are not [10:38] once the motu are more familiar with your approach, come back [10:38] bddebian: pkg-zope will have enough (!) grounds for you to profile yourself, if you are interested! [10:39] I think bddebian's making some great contributions, but I'd like to see a bit more packaging from him first [10:39] bddebian: exactly what stephan said - it's always funny with you - you'll enhance the MOTU team in a great way :) [10:39] <\sh> Keybuk: sorry for spamming your inbox btw ,-) [10:40] Nafallo: around? [10:40] sabdfl: here :-) [10:40] \sh: hey, it's no problem ;) rather I saw more than less when it comes to merge traffic and -changes :p [10:40] absolutly. and now, as we have more MOTU's reviewing should go more quickly ;) [10:40] Nafallo: got your pitch ready to roll? :-) [10:40] Nafallo is a +1 from me in advance [10:40] ogra: care to elaborate? [10:40] siretart: and i'll do some reviewing this night ;) [10:40] there's not much detail on it might be worth finding a specific [10:41] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChristianBj%c3%a4levik [10:41] sorry [10:41] he's around since a looong time, helped a lot with the MOTU already ... [10:41] well, I've been around helping out and mostly applied patches here and there :-) [10:41] I've one of those trying to backport stuff for UniverseSecurity. [10:41] OK, gents thanks. SOrry for spacing there for a sec [10:41] Nafallo: would you like to get more involved in universe security? [10:42] bddebian: what are you sorry-ing for? :) [10:42] dholbach: Delayed reaction :-) [10:42] Nafallo: astharot hasn't been around recently, he has some RL issues [10:42] pitti: at some point. [10:43] pitti: I want to get back on that horse, but right now I feel like I should do some other packaging to :-) [10:43] Nafallo: right, no objection to that :-) [10:44] ok. Nafallo - it would help us for this if there was more of a list of packages you've touched on your wiki page [10:44] if ogra and the motu are ++ for you, then that's the ticket, but it helps to have some specifics on your wiki page so the TB have a bit of context === ogra considers Nafallo to be very carful with packaging and a good teamworker [10:44] thats a good vote of confidence [10:44] <\sh> I thought nafallo is motu already.. [10:44] heh [10:44] anybody else on the MOTU worked with Nafallo? [10:44] sabdfl: I know. I did that page for CC, but I haven't got a history on my harddrive anymore ;-) [10:44] <\sh> +1 for nafallo [10:44] I really wondered why isn't a motu yet. I've only seen good work from him so far [10:44] who's been sponsoring Nafallo's uploads? [10:45] Keybuk: good question. I've been visiting Tollef and Karianne this weekend :-) [10:45] so I haven't read through my e-mail yet ;-) [10:46] so.. more questions? :-) [10:46] well you couldn't get a better mentor than tollef :-) [10:47] based on motu recommendations, I'm happy with Nafallo [10:47] Nafallo, didnt you also do patch stuff for the Cxx transition ? [10:47] as long as Tollef doesn't teach him to bite [10:47] heh [10:47] tollef bites ? [10:47] lol [10:48] ogra: hmm, not sure. _that_ was some time ago :-). === sabdfl has no idea what canonical people get up to in their spare time :-) [10:48] Keybuk: sounds like this debconf was THE debconf not to miss :) [10:48] ok, +1 from me too === ogra makes a note to keep distance to tollef in the future [10:48] ++ from me [10:48] dholbach, it was :( [10:48] welcome aboard Nafallo [10:48] yay [10:48] gothcat, hug him from us please ;) [10:49] yay! thanx sabdfl mdz Keybuk and all supporters! :-D [10:49] Nafallo: welcome in MOTU Land! :) === \sh does the MOTU dance for Nafallo [10:49] finally === Nafallo does the security dance :-) [10:49] Nafallo: congratulations [10:49] incredible :) [10:49] <\sh> Nafallo: give pitti a hand...he needs at least 8 more :) === gothcat hug Nafallo and give him a kiss [10:49] ********* everybody who got approved, please get yourself of the wikipage !!! ************ [10:50] off even [10:50] :'-( [10:50] :-) [10:50] Nafallo: congrats :-) === ogra hugs bddebian [10:50] there is still one more candidate to process; madduck added himself since the start of the meeting [10:50] *applause* [10:50] bddebian, next time [10:50] *** and put yourself on wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU and read wiki.ubuntu.com/Uploads *** [10:50] pitti: thanx for everything :-) [10:50] mdz, is this something we need to discuss ? [10:50] <\sh> so...i can jump out for a 2 mins [10:50] ogra: No worries, I'm just happy to help, if I'm helping :-) [10:50] ogra: get on what wikipage? :-) [10:50] Nafallo: well, thanks to you for your work so far. maybe bugzilla finally gets uploaded :-) [10:51] ogra: pardon? [10:51] Nafallo, off from MaintainerCandidates and on the MOTU page [10:51] mdz, madduck [10:51] pitti: you haven't yet? oki, I'll up that ASAP then ;-) [10:51] ogra: ah, oki. I will :-). [10:51] ogra: unless he has changed his mind, yes, he is on the agenda [10:51] mdz, i thought he's DD long enough ;) [10:51] is madduck a member yet? [10:51] no, doko and mako told me to just come here. [10:52] -- for madduck, he's one o' dem dere Debian types.. ;-P === bddebian is kidding and will shut up [10:52] morning [10:52] <\sh> back [10:52] Morning ajmitch [10:53] sabdfl: when i created my wikipage and applied for maintainer, the member council didn't even exist yet. and ubuntu was still no-name-yet. :) [10:53] mdz, ... long enough to just wave him through i meant :) [10:53] madduck: ok :-) [10:54] madduck: you did write the "wrong" book however ;-P [10:54] hehe [10:54] it wasn't exactly "wrong" :-) [10:54] doko: if my book does not apply to ubuntu, then you guys did something wrong. :) [10:54] Doh, nice retort [10:55] madduck: sounds a bit too much like "L'etat c'est moi!" for me ;-) [10:55] i'm happy to go +1 on madduck, based on conversations at debconf, and his existing status as a DD w.r.t. packaging skills [10:55] can you guys please stick to languages we understand? :-) [10:55] dholbach: that was not the intention. but i get stabbed from debian dudes about this book all the time. [10:55] madduck++ :-) [10:55] +1 [10:55] <\sh> pitti: "Der Staat bin ich" [10:55] pitti: sure. swedish or norweigan? :-) === ajmitch wants him in for his zope expertise :) [10:56] \sh: thanks [10:56] I think having madduck's skills and energy in Ubuntu would be an asset [10:56] madduck: i hope you don't listen to them :) [10:56] so he has +1 from me, though I think he still needs CC approval to become a member? [10:56] dholbach: either that, or i reply appropriately. [10:57] madduck, i'd like to see you more often around doing some teamwork, but who am i to judge _your_ packaging :) [10:57] since you are our upstream :) [10:57] huh? [10:57] +1 for madduck based on Debian involvement and firsthand interaction [10:58] ogra: i hope to be able to display more teamwork with pkg-zope. [10:58] He needs to go through the CC still though, doesn't he? === \sh will read madducks book [10:58] though I wonder whether we should score on ability to hold a tune ... [10:58] \sh: Look at the first page of Chap. 6 ;-P [10:58] Amaranth: i will happily do so. i was told by mako i could just skip it. [10:58] ah [10:58] bddebian: :) [10:58] let's take a leap of faith on madduck, i think it's worth it [10:58] so +1 from me :) [10:59] sabdfl: sounds good to me [10:59] sabdfl: Just because you got to drink with him... ;-) [10:59] heh [10:59] madduck: great, I'll look forward to that :) [10:59] bddebian: "sing" [10:59] bddebian: not drink. [10:59] got drunk ? [10:59] well, that too [10:59] madduck: that's because we were out of booze by the time we found the guitar [10:59] still looking for the footage of that... [10:59] sabdfl: rotfl [10:59] hahaha :) [10:59] sabdfl: the country of Finland was out of booze [11:00] madduck, you were one of the choir ?? [11:00] i appreciate your faith. i will try to make the next CC meeting nevertheless. [11:00] madduck: Ahh :-) [11:00] ogra: NO SIR. NEVER. :) [11:00] hahaha [11:00] ok [11:00] <\sh> hmm..next amazon order [11:00] madduck: welcome to the team [11:00] madduck: super... good to have you in the MOTU team [11:00] thx dudes [11:00] <\sh> welcome madduck :) [11:00] madduck: great, put your name down on the zope page :) [11:00] madduck, willkommen aus der eifel ;) [11:01] ajmitch: it's already there. :) [11:01] ah good [11:01] alright guys, what's up next? [11:01] \sh for upload to main [11:01] madduck: welcome :-) === \sh hides [11:01] <\sh> It's all ogras fault [11:01] Damn madduck doesn't even do anything and HE gets in *sniff* *sniff* [11:01] \sh: how long have you been working in universe now? === ogra grabs the spot from mdz and points it on \sh [11:01] :-) [11:01] bddebian: he has a long history in debian [11:02] <\sh> mdz: I think since breezy started? [11:02] ajmitch: I was kidding again. I'll shutup again [11:02] <\sh> some weeks after? [11:02] \sh: is that all? it seems like longer ;-) [11:02] he dd an uncountable number of uploads as MOTU ... [11:02] <\sh> mdz: hehe...for me as well :) [11:02] \sh: the agenda says you are interested in working on KDE [11:02] the sheer amount of uploads listed in breezy-changes speak for themselves [11:02] \sh's been here since I've known ubuntu [11:02] probably just because of his OCD in flooding breezy-changes :) [11:02] of \sh that is === pitti_ [~pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:02] <\sh> mdz: yes...actually I want to help Riddell to maintain the kde stuff in main [11:02] Riddell: are you around? [11:02] \sh, remember my words ;) [11:03] yep, \sh has done some great stuff [11:03] <\sh> mdz: but ogra told me, i have to upload as well some gnome related packages once or twice a release [11:03] fixing beasties, merges, making packages === pitti_ hates if his computer freezes in the middle of a meeting [11:03] at least !! [11:03] ogra: his one package can be smeg :) [11:03] ogra: ;-p [11:03] pitti_: because you like freeze during normal work? :) [11:04] Riddell: so I take it you are satisfied with the quality of his work and would be glad to have him uploading KDE packages to main independently? [11:04] <\sh> ogra: yeah :) [11:04] pitti: Did you ever get X going again? [11:04] mdz, you could give him firefox and he could handle it easily... (not that i'd vote for that) === \sh *shrugs* [11:04] \sh: what did you to to make ogra say such a terrible thing? ;-) [11:04] s/to/do/ [11:04] ogra: That's _evil_. === mvo giggles [11:04] hahaha :) [11:04] mdz: yes, I think he'd be really useful in main [11:04] mdz, he fixes the worst bugs in minutes [11:04] <\sh> mdz: well I worked with him in the same company..and told him I was a Gentoo Dude ,-) [11:04] I think \sh must have slept with ogra's gf or something [11:04] dholbach said he wants firofox though [11:05] seb128: I! WILL! GRILL! YOU! :) [11:05] Mez, i wouldnt be this friendly then :) [11:05] lol [11:05] dholbach: Why do you like pain? [11:05] that's friendly? [11:05] seb128, thinderbird too ? [11:05] Amaranth: that's a long story [11:05] seb128: ++ :-) [11:05] dholbach: I love you too :) [11:05] oookkkkkk [11:05] OUCH [11:05] back on topic [11:05] seb128, i mean they are a unit :) [11:06] right, that's for dholbach too [11:06] +1 [11:06] :) [11:06] \sh: we have no independent restrictions, once you're in main, you can upload anything. can i take it you will get reviews of any changes before uploading a Base or Essential package? [11:07] ogra, seb128, pitti: could you please stop it? you're giving me a huge headache :) [11:07] <\sh> sabdfl: yes...this is what I like to have before doing any harm to X [11:07] \sh: you have been involved enough to know where and whom to ask if you're unsure about an upload, yes? [11:07] \sh: No kernel updates that print 'pwned' to the screen a million times :) [11:07] <\sh> mdz: I will ask the right people :) or you can kick me again and again :) [11:07] what a good idea Amaranth [11:07] tempting as that might be :-) [11:07] right so I'll put dholbach 's name against those tasks... [11:08] JaneW: kthx [11:08] hehe [11:08] ...nobody could do more harm to X than daniels >:o) === dholbach is off... crying [11:08] <\sh> Amaranth: I will never touch the kernel ! Promise [11:08] \sh: not into punishment, prefer to get these things straight socially rather than sending in elmo :-) [11:08] \sh: you're too far away; perhaps ogra could be my proxy in that case [11:09] mdz, only 60km... thats esasy, i'll do it with a long stick ;) [11:09] \sh: hey, it would be great to have patches for the kernel! just careful with those unannounced uploads :-) [11:09] on that basis, and Riddell's recommendation, +1 from me [11:09] indeed, ++ from me, based on sheer number of uploads and competance thereof [11:10] <\sh> sabdfl: no unannounced uploads :) promise [11:10] \sh++ [11:10] +1, based on evident MOTU work, Riddell's endorsement, MOTU endorsement and first-hand interaction [11:10] one more... [11:10] w00t! [11:10] YAY !! [11:10] congratulations stephan :) [11:10] congrats [11:10] \sh: thanks for your fantastic contribution and leadership so far, very glad to have you on board as a main uploader [11:10] congrats \sh ! [11:10] \sh: congratulations! you ROCK!! [11:10] ogra: \sh can't do any GNOME work, seb128 will bite him [11:10] woohoo! :-) [11:10] \sh: congrats indeed [11:10] \sh: well done [11:11] we should have a song to sing for new members and maintainers, a different verse for each phase of the process [11:11] \sh: now get jabberd2 into main ;-) [11:11] Amaranth, yes, i guess they would clash a bit :) [11:11] Amaranth: I'm happy to give some packages, you want gtk? :p [11:11] <\sh> sabdfl: thank you very much :) It's really a pleasure and honour to work with those great people around here :) [11:11] \sh: keep it up! [11:11] seb128 only bites ME when i have dumb ideas, he's otherwise quite easy going [11:11] ah ah [11:11] mdz, shtoom meetings ?? [11:11] Ghc6 transition? [11:11] welcome \sh! :-) [11:11] yes, I brought that on the topic [11:11] sabdfl: thanks for switching back to browser mode (from me and differents users who pinged me about that) :) [11:12] <\sh> Nafallo: if jabberd2 is ready for real work...I just kicked it [11:12] I'm not really sure if the TB is the right address for that [11:12] sistpoty: what is the question regarding ghc6? [11:12] \sh: :-) [11:12] <\sh> pitti: thx :) [11:12] seb128: you're welcome, and sorry for the brain fart previously [11:12] np [11:12] but I (and sistpoty) would like to know how to proceed with that. [11:12] sistpoty: it looks to me like a buildd admin issue [11:13] if it can't be handled by normal uploads [11:13] siretart, get infinity to provide you the right buildd hooks for bootstrapping it [11:13] ok, then that point is done, and we will get in touch with infinity, sorry for bothering [11:13] ok [11:14] or lamont [11:14] okay === \sh needs a coffee on this shockwave [11:14] is there any other business? [11:14] rants, raves, kudos or rotting vegetables? [11:14] nothing from me [11:14] just having fun here with the Launchpad team [11:15] that was a superb meeting :) === ogra sniffs for vegetables [11:15] anybody been watching Rosetta recently? [11:15] it's looking guuuuuurd [11:15] sabdfl: the pressure is now on to get the rosetta launchpadintegration landing page in place [11:15] sabdfl, nope, but malone starts to look really nice :) [11:15] siretart: given instructions on what debs to install from where (that meet sanity requirements), I or infinity can bootstrap whatever [11:15] ogra: still have quite a bit of work to do on malone === SloMo_ [~slomo@p5487DBA3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:16] sabdfl, but it gets nearer the usable state we need it... [11:16] s/the/to the [11:16] ok, I'm not hearing any further TB business, so let's adjourn [11:16] thanks to everyone for your participation [11:16] ogra: cool. bradb gets here thursday [11:16] cool, thanks to all [11:16] thanks everyone, good night [11:16] sabdfl, great :) === sabdfl [~mark@sabdfl.silver.supporter.pdpc] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [11:16] and congrats to our new MOTUs [11:16] night [11:16] <\sh> thanks to you guys :) [11:16] the next TB meeting takes place in the middle of my annual leave, but I'll try and find a not-too-well-secured wifi point for it === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-18.ecn.purdue.edu] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [11:16] thank you [11:16] night everyone [11:16] thanks mdz === pitti [~pitti@195.227.105.180] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [11:17] lamont: we just need the ghc6-package (that from debian/unstable would imo suffice) [11:17] gn8 everyone [11:17] sistpoty: ok [11:17] agenda flushed for the next meeting === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] [11:18] <\sh> cu around guys :) === \sh [~sh@server3.servereyes.de] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === bddebian [~bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === jan1 [~pet@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === sistpoty [~stefan@DSL01.212.114.237.5.NEFkom.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === Keybuk [~scott@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === gothcat [gothcat@c-459571d5.07-44-73746f50.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === dholbach [foobar@td9091d1a.pool.terralink.de] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Verlassend"] === hughsie [~hughsie@host86-132-126-70.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === rtcm [~jman@217.129.142.72] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === Amaranth [~travis@amaranth.user] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation]