=== pax [pax@dd05.us] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] [12:05] <\sh> ok...uploaded another patch for ire [12:06] \sh... go to bed [12:10] <\sh> finishing my cigarette [12:11] this is really a poor excuse [12:11] you shouldn't smoke [12:11] you should have sex instead :-) [12:12] <\sh> well... [12:13] <\sh> you're right..I should order a "realdoll.com"? [12:13] :-) === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:29] <\sh> hahaha [12:29] <\sh> i got it [12:29] the doll? [12:29] ire builds on amd64? [12:29] you ordered the doll/ [12:30] <\sh> ajmitch: yes [12:30] <\sh> yes [12:30] <\sh> yes [12:30] \sh... [12:30] <\sh> *dancejump* [12:30] congrats :) [12:30] <\sh> 6 tries ;) [12:30] the breezy-changes readers will love you for it :) === herve is building zope2.7 [12:30] heh [12:30] that doesn't take long, thankfully [12:30] i thought i said some pretty silly stuff on breezy-changes [12:30] before daniels came along === pete [~omega@ua-83-227-176-123.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] herve: do you think we can get 2.8 in universe? :) [12:31] or they wonder is "Stephan Hermann" is a team of crazy maintainers that never sllep! [12:31] obviously [12:31] <\sh> doing the patch dance...amd64 fixed? [12:31] imagine if dholbach and sh were around at the same time [12:31] vs. seb and doko [12:31] do you volunteer? :-) [12:31] <\sh> * You don't want to know it, another source fix for amd64 [12:31] <\sh> lol [12:32] herve: 2.8 & a 3.0 package are in sid [12:32] iirc [12:32] at least I saw the uploads on the pkg-zope-developers list [12:32] haven't followed much [12:32] I'm still to use 2.7 [12:32] no, wait [12:32] some people might welcome 3 [12:32] today I just dream of dropping zope! [12:33] I find zope3 in unstable but not zope2.8 [12:33] ok [12:33] might still be in NEW [12:33] or in Fabio's repository === ajmitch wonders if ftp-master is back among us [12:33] (Fabio?) [12:33] nah, the mails said it was NEW [12:34] ok july 14th [12:34] so many things to remember :-) [12:35] ftp-master is still down [12:36] iirc fabio got the google SoC bounty for zope packaging [12:36] but I haven't seen him round ubuntu channels [12:37] didn't know that [12:37] yeah, I saw it on the BreezyBounties page [12:38] ok udu.wiki [12:38] s/ok/on/ [12:39] besides, #pkg-zope is so dead most of the time :) [12:39] ha right [12:40] I should remember to join it :-) [12:40] :) [12:46] <\sh> time to go to bed, part 2 [12:47] <\sh> cu later dudes [12:47] gn8 \sh_away :) [12:51] ok to put MOM stuff in revu seeing as I dont have upload access? [12:51] and link to it as pending upload? [12:53] Mez: for mom stuff just add a debdiff to the bugreport and link it at MOTUToMerge... why do you want to put it in revu? === Mez has no idea how to make a debdiff thats why [12:54] debdiff oldversion.dsc newversion.dsc [12:54] or just do diff -Naur oldversiondirectory newversiondirectory [12:54] erm [12:54] what if I'm not increasing version number? [12:54] or should the debdiff be from the current package in Ubuntu? [12:55] then just do the second... the diff should be against the mom-merged version afaik [12:55] there's no old version and no new version [12:55] I just changed the mom-merged slightly [12:56] I shouldnt have to increase the version number should i? [12:56] no... but as oldversiondirectory just take the plain mom-merged version [01:02] so it should be against the mom-merged version? [01:04] yes [01:05] SloMo_, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11175 look any good? [01:06] looks ok :) === DanielN is now known as DanielN`aw [01:21] night! === crimsun [~crimsun@rchp4.rochester.ibm.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|laptop [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] are one supposed to set the merge-bug status to pending after supplying a patch? [01:36] pete: afaik yes [01:37] yes [01:38] hmm.. how do one do that? === pete can't seem to find it :S [01:53] is there supposed to be a dropdown menu to the right of "Status:" on bugzilla? [01:58] nope... you can select the new status over the commit button and under the comment entry field [02:03] I only have "Leave as NEW" [02:03] do you have editbug rights? [02:03] probably not then [02:03] hmm ask ogra about that ;) [02:04] am I supposed to have editbug rights? [02:06] no idea ;) ask ogra === j_fletcher [~james@nukeh.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [~bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] Ahh, to work on more merge stuff or my "real" job... :-( [02:32] bddebian: what about both? :) [02:32] Work's VPN jacks up my local network :-( [02:33] SloMo_: And you are becoming a slave driver.. ;-) === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-96-129-148.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:48] hmm, i'll go to sleep ;) gn8 all :) [03:02] bddebian: doing both can be good :) === hitmaN\pc [~tommyb@host217-44-144-117.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hitmaN\pc [~tommyb@host217-44-144-117.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:17] ajmitch: I can't wrap my mind around MS products and Free Software at the same time ;-P [03:17] heh === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-065-138.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch works on a winXP desktop :) [03:18] Aye, that's how I'm VPN'd in to the office right now. :-( [03:41] Fsck I hate my job.. :'-( [03:41] bddebian: cisco vpn? [03:41] vpnc works great in linux [03:42] and if you modify the vpnc-connect script, it won't steal your default route [03:43] schweeb_: Aye, Cisco [03:43] schweeb_: Yeah but it might be tough to get Remote Desktop on GNU/Linux ;-) [03:44] no === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] not at all [03:44] there's tsclient [03:45] I'm using it right now [03:45] Really [03:45] Hmm [03:46] bddebian: go to Applications>Internet>Terminal Server Client [03:46] it does VNC, RDP (rdesktop), and probably some other stuff [03:46] Wow [03:46] looks like they eventually plan Citrix support === Amaranth [~travis@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-96-129-148.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_d [~ogra@p5089F37E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p5089F37E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:05] strange new nick...hmm...sudo /etc/init.d/ogra_d restart [04:06] ::) [04:06] hehe [04:36] There must be some cosmic plot to thwart me. First there's a tornado watch that drives me into the basement for an hour. After that, torrential downpour. When the rain lets up a bit, I run across the street to Target to buy an umbrella. So of course it only makes sense that when I step outside Target, it's sunny. === bddebian looks for the black helicopters === ajmitch upgrade his zope install [04:37] plenty of packages in the latest upgrade round, most of them probably by \sh [04:38] :-) === Tonio [~tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:51] hello [04:51] having a little question packagind an app... [04:51] the code is released as stable but contains a CVS folder in "admin" [04:51] Tonio: Hello. I don't know much but shoot and I'll try [04:52] Tonio: Remove all CVS folders so lintian won't complain :-) [04:52] and doesn't compile if I remove this... [04:52] yes [04:52] but if I remove this the code doesn't compile ;) [04:52] do you know why it doesn't compile? [04:52] here is the issue [04:52] Ahh [04:52] because it doesn't find the cvs folder [04:52] that's what is said.... [04:52] because a CVS dir ought to be just metadata [04:52] that is slightly crazy :) [04:52] supposed I know... but here is a specific case... [04:53] yes, but that's it [04:53] you could patch the makefiles such that it doesn't break [04:53] I'll try yes ;) [04:54] already compiled 8 apps, I'm okay know... thank's to all of you for your help [04:55] sounds like it's going well then :) [04:55] another question, do I have to add autoconf to deps if this is required by configure script ? === quad [~quad@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:55] blah, this no internet bug in breezy is killing me! [04:57] no internet bug? [04:59] my dhclient fails to get an ip [04:59] seems similar to: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51242 [04:59] but i can't get a static ip [05:00] Tonio: These are all new packages? [05:01] yes [05:01] I have about 20 to finish [05:02] Wow [05:02] I'm looking kde-apps for very popular and well noted apps that actually forgot, like klibido, kompos, ksystemlok etc... [05:02] ksystemlog excuse me [05:02] Nice [05:03] great, have you been talking with riddell & the others in the kubuntu team? [05:03] I found using kubuntu that the kde apps where no as present than gnome, and felt it was necessary to contribute, even thew I didn't knew anything about packaging... [05:03] yes [05:04] ah good :) [05:04] ajmitch: you know anything about my bug? any suggestions [05:04] in fact I started building a little repo and riddel came to me asking why didn't I do this directly fur the ubuntu breezy, which was a very good idea in fact ^^ [05:05] quad: no, I don't sorry [05:07] :( === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [~poningru@pool-68-238-172-217.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_d [~ogra@p5089BDCA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p5089BDCA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [~sz@p5089BDCA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:10] after 5 hours trying to understand everything lintian doesn't like, seeing this is a REAL pleasure ;) [06:10] tonio@Totoland:~/Datas/Informatique/Kubunbu_Repository/katalog/katalog-0.3$ lintian ../*.dsc [06:10] tonio@Totoland:~/Datas/Informatique/Kubunbu_Repository/katalog/katalog-0.3$ [06:10] :-) [06:10] You know you didn't have to fix the NMU errors right? :-) [06:11] no [06:11] but I don't understand why lol [06:12] I didn't do anything concerning this.... I should have been very inspired for a few minutes, but I don't remember what has changed on that point.... [06:29] NMU = non maintainer upload [06:29] which is correct, if you're doing the uploading :p [07:13] Gnight folks [07:13] good night, bddebian === paines [~al@p508A5026.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [~mpalmer@220-245-224-46-nsw.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb-aw1y [~bradb@modemcable082.64-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Panzerboy [~NoName@panzerboy.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === paines [~al@p508A5026.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [~chrys@dsl-084-056-122-038.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax8-058.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:23] <\sh> morning [10:24] hey \sh [10:24] ready for another round of merges? ;) [10:25] <\sh> hehe...first I have to do my job here ;) [10:25] <\sh> let me ceck my tickets here, and when I resolve them...sure :) [10:26] \sh: what sort of tickets? :) [10:26] <\sh> sivang: digital tv stuff [10:26] \sh: oh goody, I bet it's interesting no? [10:26] <\sh> sivang: hehe..well..sometimes yes, sometimes no...most of the time routine [10:28] so somehow I got on the laptop testing team, now I have to find a fax machine [10:28] ajmitch, did you sign up? [10:28] <\sh> ajmitch: lucky one u :) [10:29] ajmitch, as I got signed up [10:29] Burgundavia: well I got sent the email, without being on the wiki page [10:29] so I don't know :) [10:29] I got sent the mail, and I /am/ on there [10:29] ajmitch: cool for you :) [10:30] ajmitch, as did I. I think they are rewarding some of people who didn't sign up and are useful [10:30] ajmitch: someone told me they tracked active people in the mailing lists etc.. [10:30] Burgundavia: quite possibly [10:30] Burgundavia: exactly [10:30] <\sh> oh then it's clear ,-) [10:30] <\sh> I'm not active on the ML...don't have time for this [10:30] \sh: they'll track breezy-changes ;) [10:30] but you are active in package uploading [10:30] <\sh> lol === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:31] it got sent to the address I use for uploads === Burgundavia needs to fax that tomorrow [10:31] well, sent to matthew garrett actually :) [10:31] <\sh> they're scared that I use the laptop for package building [10:31] yes, that was odd [10:31] maybe they saw my laptop at UDU & felt sorry for me ;) [10:32] ouch [10:32] p2-400 :) [10:32] I had my fathers old panasonic toughbook from 1998 [10:32] I beat you [10:32] I never build packages on that clunker, unless it's needed [10:33] <\sh> I only have this nc6000 from my company..so I'm using it ,-) [10:34] :) [10:34] <\sh> my desktops are at my exwifes place..to be used by my son... [10:34] ah.. 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[01:59] <\sh> Mithrandir: I send u my ssh key for ravel... [02:00] <\sh> (my new one :() [02:01] you have? [02:02] <\sh> I'll send it 3 mins ago :) [02:03] <\sh> to your canonical address [02:03] <\sh> msgid <200507261358.31686.sh@sourcecode.de> [02:16] hmm [02:16] http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/debtags-edit/ [02:16] why no orig.tar.gz ? === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jbailey [~jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:20] Mez: because it's a native package... but seems like the ubuntu changes (just rebuilds) can be dropped with this package so no need to worry ;) === Gazer [~gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === o_0 is now known as HostingGeek [02:41] Mez: Just the man I've been looking for. :) [02:41] what have I done now [02:41] Mez|Hidingfrom: Any reason why firefox is still in backports? It's not needed and may or may not be messing up upgrades. [02:41] Amaranth - ah... yes - I shall pull [02:42] hmm [02:42] though thing is it'll caus eproblems cause BP has a higher version than Sec. [02:42] as it's based off the breezy version [02:42] ? === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@info2-44.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] err [02:43] Oh, ubuntu0.1 [02:43] shit [02:43] yeah [02:44] Well, supposedly jdong fixed the problems but we've had a couple users in #ubuntu with firefox and mozilla-firefox packages conflicting because they're trying to own the same files. [02:44] Amaranth, backports conflicts and bumps the mozilla-firefox version [02:44] oh, it Conflicts now? [02:45] ah shit [02:45] no [02:45] http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp/sources/firefox-1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5.debian-rules [02:45] it should be Depends: mozilla-firefox (= ${Source-Version}) [02:46] but, unless they're downloading the debs [02:46] instead of using the repository [02:46] then it shouldnt be a problem [02:48] Amaranth: do you see any problem with that control file? [02:49] 1.0.4? [02:49] that['s what we worked form [02:49] but, we obv changed for .6 [02:50] but, in theory it shouldnt cause problems (and hasnt so far) [02:50] cause it "overrides" [02:50] mozilla-firefox [02:50] i'm not very good at all that crap [02:50] or should Itr be pre-depend [02:50] 'firefox' vs 'mozilla-firefox' and provides and etc are all a bit over my head still === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-18.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:48] <\sh> slomo: ping [03:48] \sh: pong [03:48] <\sh> slomo: imms ftbfsing on amd64 [03:49] ok, i'll look at it :/ [03:52] hmm... i need an amd64 machine around me ;) [03:54] hm, in which X library is XQueryPointer and XOpenDisplay located? and why does it work on every other architecture? ;) [03:54] <\sh> apt-file ,-) [03:55] apt-file can search for library functions? ;) [03:57] <\sh> normally u will have a manpage in lib*-dev packages for this function ,-) [03:57] <\sh> slomo: and to your question...it's a secret...i can't tell you ,-) [03:57] \sh: the question regarding eris or this question? ;) [03:58] <\sh> slomo: i will check it when I'm home...in the moment I'm also busy with my "normal work" here ==> has nothing to do with linux at all ;) [03:58] np :) maybe i've already solved this until then ;) [03:59] <\sh> slomo: check CxxLibraryList if it's already transitioned...I don't know if this lib was a c++ lib [04:00] it is... and was fixed by you ;) [04:01] <\sh> really? *shrug* [04:03] yep... on 31 may, at least that is what the changelog says [04:10] <\sh> must be the truth [04:11] <\sh> oh.../topic === jbailey [~jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:15] \sh: these 2 functions are in -lX11 it seems... [04:16] now we need someone on amd64 to test it... hm :( [04:19] <\sh> slomo: I'm w8 for mithrandir to reactivate my account on ravel :) [04:19] \sh: what does this do: dh_makeshlibs -plibatlas-cpp-0.5c2 -V 'libatlas-cpp-0.5' ? [04:19] <\sh> jesus [04:19] <\sh> damn [04:20] <\sh> one moment dude [04:20] hehe ok [04:22] <\sh> fix uploaded [04:22] <\sh> txj [04:23] <\sh> aeh thx [04:23] for libatlas-cpp? ok thanks :) when it's in the archives you can just upload the debdiff i sent you last night... and then i can fix sear ;) [04:24] <\sh> for eris? [04:24] <\sh> ok..this evening ;-) === \sh will do everything this evening [04:25] hehe... hopefully libatlas-cpp is in the archives by then ;) [04:25] hm, you got the mail last night? [04:26] <\sh> slomo: yes :) [04:26] ok fine :) hm, maybe i can upload this myself this evening ;) === |QuaD-_ [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh smoking === Nafallo [nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez pokes Nafallo in the eye === Mez runs away giggling [04:45] siretart: ping [04:45] Mez: pong [04:45] Mez: poking in other's eyes is not nice.. [04:46] it was a friendly poke in the eye [04:46] is there any other type? [04:47] ;) === ogra hands siretart a handkerchief to dry the tears from poking.... [04:47] thnx :) === siretart hands over to Nafallo [04:48] oh, i muddled that :) [05:00] lol === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [~herzi@d059118.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [~bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:24] Morning [05:25] hehe, morning all :-) [05:25] Heya Nafallo [05:27] hmm [05:28] meeting @ 00:00 UTC+2 *yawns* [05:28] Meeting? [05:28] TB [05:28] Ahh, not for us neophytes then :-) [05:29] aha! that's 22:00 UTC+2 [05:29] nice [05:30] damn evolution translates the timezones for me :-P. [05:39] Nafallo, gworldclock ;) === bddebian pokes ogra just for fun :-) === ogra pokes back [05:40] ogra: baah. put a worldmap on it and I might consider it ;-) [05:40] pffft... all these gui addicted guys around here [05:40] just switch your life to UTC and be happy [05:40] ogra: command line disintegration [05:41] heh === Mithrandir hugs zsh [05:41] Mithrandir, depens where you live .... this will correlate with the happyness :) [05:41] we should make zsh Essential: yes and make all user's shell be zsh [05:43] bah [05:43] <-- basher [05:43] i got pissed off having back/forward not work [05:43] im too lazy for zsh [05:44] $ echo $0 [05:44] bash [05:44] zsh is the peak of laziness. [05:44] love. [05:44] Mithrandir: dude, you have to config it [05:44] entirely too much work. === siretart also loves zsh [05:44] nah, you just have to hold down tab and think about what you want to do [05:45] zcomp esp? [05:45] i guess ESP doesnt translate [05:45] does zsh already support utf8? it doesn't last time i used it... [05:45] psychic [05:46] slomo: not too well, no :-/ [05:46] tseng: yeah, it's psychic [05:47] well this was the first reason why i stayed with bash ;) [05:48] <\sh> ah Mithrandir === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-96-129-148.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:54] <\sh> ok..guys..just going home...bbl [05:54] Later \sh === Danten [~danten@h215n4c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:05] siretart, whats the ationale to put all the MOTU transitions on the TB agenda ? [06:06] we have to do them all anyway, i dont understand why you want to discuss them at the TB ... [06:06] ... since they have nothing to do with the TB [06:14] ogra: I wasn't too sure, I wanted to check that with you anyways. [06:14] ogra: the probles is, that I wanted to know, what is the status about currently ongoing transistions, and what transistions are planned for breezy [06:15] siretart, we _have_ to do all of them... with highest priority [06:15] slang and aalib are transitioned in main.... we have to care for the universe stuff here === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:15] *gulp* [06:15] glu has to wait for xorg, there we have no choice... [06:16] and as i understand the haskell stuff this waits for xorg too [06:16] not necessarily [06:16] the matter with ghc is a bit more complicated === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-090-211.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:17] I'll take the transition stuff off from the agenda [06:17] siretart, did you already ask someone with direct access to the buildds fro the right hooks for ghc ? [06:18] ogra: yes, cpphs could already be built with hugs, haskell-utils should be doable [06:19] doesnt sond like its not doable within the next weeks [06:19] after that, we are a bit unsure how to proceed with ghc6, because since the latest upstream revision, it needs ghc6 to be built :/ [06:19] yes, thus my question about hooks on the buildd [06:19] cpphs was already uploaded, haskell-utils can be built, it needs 'fixed' builddepends for sbuild [06:20] what hooks are there on the buildd? [06:21] none, some buildd admin has to provide them manually ... [06:21] lets discuss it with infinity... i think doko is also someone who knows a small bit about bootstrapping [06:22] ok [06:22] I thought someone had built ghc6-bootstrap? [06:22] i saw that too anywhere in here... [06:23] sistpoty has [06:23] and it doesnt work ? [06:23] but in that form, it is not that usable, will have to recheck with him [06:23] it downloads stuff at build-time [06:24] Can't it just be used to build haskell-utils and the full ghc6 ? [06:25] I havn't checked it yet, have to work here, still :( [06:26] ogra, siretart: please talk with infinity, he has to do it on the build machine anyway [06:26] doko: ok, we will do [06:26] doko, thanks, thats what i thought [06:41] <\sh> slomo: ping [06:41] \sh: pong [06:42] <\sh> slomo: atlas-cpp went through [06:43] \sh: fine :) can you please upload the new eris version then? :) [06:43] guys, dont forget to put yourself on the agenda today for upload rights .... [06:44] <\sh> will do just now...give me some minutes to relax from work...:) I just had a look only [06:44] \sh thought you already were on the agenda and had upload rights [06:44] :P [06:45] TB meeting today? [06:45] yup [06:46] in like... 3.25 hours === bddebian wonders if he should join just to sit in.. [06:48] bddebian, everyone is welcome to si in [06:50] ogra: I cound 5 on MaintainerCandidates [06:51] err s/5/7/ === bddebian should probably remove himself for now [06:51] cound? [06:52] bddebian: why? [06:52] siretart: Probably not ready yet :-) === zorglub [~zorglub@wahe.diwi.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zorglub [~zorglub@wahe.diwi.org] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [07:15] siretart: hi, tell me, if I upload again katalog today (correct with good deps etc...) will it overwrite the old version ? [07:20] Tonio: you need up increment the version, if that's what you're asking [07:23] okay, do I need to put -1ubuntu0 [07:23] or -0ubuntu1 === dnakata [~kvirc@alyson.feriteninjas.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:25] <\sh> -0ubuntu1 [07:27] Tonio, always -0ubuntu1 so the debian package will overwrite it once there is a debian -1 version [07:28] (which would be the first debian package) [07:28] Tonio: for revu you best keep the version as is... it will be overwritten then === jan1 [~pet@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:28] hello all [07:28] <\sh> did i say , that siretart and sistopy are rocking dudes? this nice little password recovery tools is GREAT! [07:28] with every new package you increment the last number (indeed only if you do "real" uploads, not revu uploads) i.e. -0ubuntu2 [07:29] Hello Jan1 [07:29] hmm someone took jani [07:29] Tonio, but a package that gets intially packaged for ubuntu and doesnt exist in debian should always have 0ubuntu1 [07:29] ogra: ok ant hnaks for the info [07:30] took me a long moment but my packages are clean now ;) [07:39] ogra: I'm just uplaoding right now, but it appears to upload to fast to me. [07:39] can you confirm me that you can see the files on the server ? [07:39] Tonio, nope [07:39] i dont have access to the revu server [07:39] ask siretart [07:40] excuse ma ;) [07:40] me [07:40] Tonio: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=185 is this your upload? [07:40] np [07:40] Tonio: siretart is REVU master :-) [07:41] atm. until we get that vserver for revu [07:41] k [07:41] I don't have the feeling that .orig.tar.gz file is sent.... [07:42] it was not [07:42] dput -P *_source.changes [07:42] isn't that correct ? [07:42] <\sh> debuild -S -sa [07:42] Yes [07:42] how did you run dpkg-buildpackge? [07:42] <\sh> for source upload [07:42] Ohh [07:42] whoops [07:42] debuild -s [07:43] as \sh said, always use '-S -sa' instead of plain '-S' [07:43] for revu, that is [07:43] okay [07:43] I'm doing it then overwrite everthing.... sorry ;) [07:44] can you delete all of those uploads ? [07:45] or do I have to modify version to get it overwritten ? [07:49] if you want an upload nuked, make a comment [07:50] an admin like \sh, me, ajmitch, tseng or dholbach will have possibility to nuke an upload [07:51] okay ;) Cause I don't want to create a mess on the server... [07:51] I'll wait for them to nuke [07:52] you say "will" [07:52] don't you have it at the moment ? [07:52] Tonio: you can update uploads without creating new entries. the main page lists only one entry per sourcepackage [07:53] yes but it says "nothing to do with .source file" if ti try tu overwrite... [07:53] delete the source file [07:53] k [07:54] nice ;) [07:54] <\sh> preparing some coffee and getting refreshed for the meeting ;-) [07:54] eta 2h, yes? [07:54] damn, and I'm still in the office and have to work [07:54] :/ [07:55] <\sh> yeah..but I have to smell fresh and yummy before I can stand in the middle of the arena ,-) [07:55] ah, you applied for main. :) gogogo! :) [07:56] <\sh> siretart: yes..sadly ,-) [07:56] ;) [07:58] <\sh> it's all ogras fault, I'll tell him, when they're finished with me *lol* === rtcm [~jman@217.129.142.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:01] \sh good luck, you've been very productive lately [08:07] <\sh> jan1: actually I'm doing this only to support riddell... [08:07] nevertheless you're productive :) [08:08] there's no exuse for that === Riddell hugs \sh === ivoks [ivoks@cmung5804.cmu.carnet.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:09] hi guys [08:09] Hello ivoks [08:09] h iivoks [08:09] this backup stuff is harder than i tought :( [08:09] <\sh> Riddell: I love u too :) [08:10] \sh hi [08:10] <\sh> hey ivoks === \sh learned something [08:10] <\sh> READ THE FCKING MANUALS :) or in my case REPORTS ,-> [08:11] anyone wants to contribute or see my work i have done in last 2 days [08:11] ? [08:12] none? :( [08:12] no one [08:12] ivoks: If I could I would :-) [08:13] you could check it out and run it :) [08:13] <\sh> ivoks: u created the desaster recovery backup option for ubuntu breezy especially for my laptop? ,-> [08:14] rsnapshot is very nice for that [08:14] \sh :-) [08:14] <\sh> but not if your hd is dieing suddenly...evenings it's working, mornings it's broken [08:14] \sh i did catch up python so well :) [08:15] <\sh> and no...it's not the folk song of cat stevens [08:15] \sh want to try it? [08:16] ogra, so can elmo do a sync and say ignore ubuntu1 patches en-gross for a list of packages skipping MOM? [08:16] yep [08:16] <\sh> ivoks: honestly: not today, cause I have other thoughts in my head and other things to think of...but please give me link to test it tomorrow [08:17] ogra could you help me? :( === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:19] http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/backup.py [08:19] don't take it seriuosly, it's just begining [08:20] 3kb file [08:22] <\sh> that's all? [08:22] :( [08:22] <\sh> I'm tired? [08:22] <\sh> lol [08:22] feel free to contribute [08:22] :) [08:22] I'm just nitpicking ivoks, this is not a priority if you want a working app [08:22] <\sh> I don't code gtk [08:23] <\sh> I'm the kde guy ,-) use python-kde3 ,-) [08:23] but there is a tarfile module in python, so you don't need to exec tar.Or so I think. [08:23] jan1 thanks for the tip [08:24] jan1 i'm quite new to python and gtk... this wasn't so hard to do, but whole day i'm busting my head how to create treeview of folders on disk [08:24] with checkboxes [08:25] I don't know python either aside from occasional reading of source and a few scripts [08:25] I just remembered I used tarfile once and it's slower than execcing tar itself :( [08:26] eh [08:26] ivoks, hmm, thats *very* basic :) [08:26] ogra yeah, it's 4 hours of work [08:27] and 20 hours of trying to figure out how to create treeview of folders [08:27] i will continue my work, don't worry... [08:28] ivoks, it just created a 1.5 gig file in temp until my / ran out of space .... [08:28] :) [08:28] you should do some size checks [08:28] ogra i know [08:28] i wanted to do a treeview with size column [08:28] and you should warn testers about that ;) [08:29] sorry [08:29] <\sh> ok...now for coffee and a shower... [08:29] if you use xfs for / your system is fucked after running out of space [08:29] completely [08:29] ok, guys, backup.py is potentional DOS [08:29] ogra: what happens then? === slomo worries [08:30] slomo: then you better have fullbackups ;) [08:30] slomo boot ubuntu installation and delete some files [08:30] slomo, it starts to write zeros [08:30] oh... [08:31] slomo, its not easy to get it running again... but the xfs repair tools can do it.... its just a lot of work :) [08:31] omg... well, this means i have to keep an eye on my free disc space ;) [08:31] slomo, www.grawert.net has a simple diskchecker script from the days i ran xfs systems ;) === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:32] herve hi [08:32] hello [08:32] ogra: what do you use now? [08:32] Heya herve [08:32] hey ivoks! [08:32] ext3 [08:32] but thats sloow...compared to xfs ... [08:33] ogra, tried reiser? [08:33] ogra, I removed xfs when I began to lost files at fsck [08:33] herve what's up? [08:33] ivoks, nothing much, my work days are still the way to hell [08:33] ogra, and I found it slow :-) (to copy files, if we don't mean the same) [08:33] jan1, i will never let anything hans reiser designed nearer then 10m to any of my systems [08:34] :) [08:34] ogra, watch out at conferences then :) [08:34] herve, we talked about running out of space with xfs... which is the nly issue i know about xfs... [08:35] hmm is someone working on that? [08:35] or use reiser over nfs on a server 11 meters away :) [08:35] when fsck happened, files were just deleted, not moved to any lost+found or consistent state [08:35] herve, xfs is great if you know it good enough... i ran a 3TB san array with it in '98 it was the fastest in town... but the mallest files on there were about 600MB [08:35] I found it both fast and lossless, but YMMV of course [08:36] yes, probably not suited to my needs [08:36] well... see you guys [08:36] bye ivoks [08:36] i'm off to beach [08:36] enjoy your days :-) [08:36] you lucky [08:36] i have seen companys going down the drain because of missing backups and reiserfs [08:36] herve i'll try (i don't know how i'll manage that cause ogra just gave me a slap :) [08:36] hans sells stuff as stable thats far from that [08:37] I never managed servers, but for workstation use it's cool IMO [08:37] yes, like the editor of the crap I fight with everyday... [08:37] all my servers are on XFS === siretart loves ext3. stable, tested, rocking. [08:37] jan1, yes, if you dont have valuable data on thm [08:37] I don't :) [08:37] i really hate reisers rubbish [08:37] 4TB server too :) [08:37] siretart++ [08:37] ogra i agree [08:38] well... off i go [08:38] herve, nothing was deleted... did youtry xfsrestore ? [08:39] ok, I admit, I read quite no doc [08:39] I expect it to work out of the box [08:39] like ext3 doe [08:39] s [08:39] herve, if you know the tools and use them, xfs will never leave you alone :) [08:39] or break... [08:40] but having xfs on small disks that run out of space every now and then is a PITA... [08:40] sure thing I'm supposed to know the tools I use [08:40] anyway, ext3 is more suited for ws and laptops [08:41] yup... [08:41] has anyone experience with jfs ? i never used it [08:41] <\sh> I'm running xfs now on the lap [08:41] <\sh> reiserfs on the usb hd [08:42] \sh, btw, if you only want main upload rights for KDE i wont vote for you ! at least one gnome related package every release must happen too... :) [08:44] <\sh> ogra: now look what u did [08:44] ogra, there are some blog entries by john goerzen (he's on planet debian) regarding jfs among other fs-s IIRC [08:44] not a "nice to have" [08:45] its a "must!!" [08:45] I'm pretty sure to find the same on reiserfs :-) [08:45] <\sh> ogra: am I allowed to quote u? [08:45] sure :) [08:46] and i said "gnome related" dont mess with seb128 ;) [08:46] <\sh> ogra: please check and black out some things u don't want to see [08:47] thats ok :) [08:47] <\sh> the TB will kill me [08:47] How soon is meeting and should I come? [08:47] <\sh> and sabdfl will send me a brazil shemale [08:47] heh... dont worry [08:47] \sh: ;-) [08:47] ahahhahha [08:47] bddebian, why not [08:48] ogra: Dunno [08:48] Unfrgiven, coud you remove yourself from the MaintainerCandidates page please [08:49] woah, I accidentally turned off the powersupply in my office [08:49] heh [08:49] furtunatly I'm working on a sunray and laptop :) [08:49] siretart: lol... how has this happened? :) [08:50] I kicked the junction box :/ [08:50] <\sh> slomo: u sure liberis is c++? === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:52] \sh: it's coded in c++ if that is what you want to know ;) and it's currently not installable because of libraries it depends on which were renamed because of cxxtransition [08:52] <\sh> *grmpf* [08:52] <\sh> i did it by myself *lol* [08:53] <\sh> *shakeshishead* [08:54] ogra, I saw edubuntu-meta is a new package unrelated to ubuntu-meta. Isn't it annoying to keep them in sync, I mean the update scripts? I remember lokking a while back at kubuntu-meta and ubuntu-meta and there were slight inconsistencies which were from time to time eliminated [08:54] \sh: one of this libraries is libatlas which you finally fixed today ;) [08:54] <\sh> yeah [08:54] <\sh> and liberis i did as well [08:54] I am wondering what the cleanest way to do a xubuntu-meta be (based on xfce4) [08:54] <\sh> *shrugs* [08:55] jan1, they are completely separate distros [08:55] I mean from code-reuse perspective [08:55] that's all done, now?All you do is modify the seed description? [08:56] when soemthing goes into ubuntu-minimal or standard is it automatically picked up? [08:56] grrr those money problems... [08:57] jan1, since i use these metapackages unmodified, yes [08:57] <\sh> slomo: for u it build properly only installing the deb was the problem? [08:57] ogra, hanks [08:58] the only diferent ones are -server and -desktop [08:58] \sh: yes... installing was the problem because of this weird dh_makeshlibs hack... the now built versions should have correct dependencies [08:59] -server installs a complete classroom ltsp environment... -desktop is the desktop with edu apps [09:00] <\sh> slomo: will try in chroot..mom [09:04] <\sh> slomo: works..uploading [09:04] \sh: thanks :) [09:04] <\sh> slomo: np [09:13] <\sh> can it be that kimbada a bad package is? [09:16] I'll merge the python packages === dholbach [foobar@td9091d1a.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:17] hola dholbach [09:17] hellas [09:17] :-D [09:17] how are you all? [09:17] hi dholbach :) [09:18] hey slomo :) [09:18] daniel!!! [09:19] <\sh> DHOLBACH :) [09:19] WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO! :) === \sh throws a cup of coffee to Daniel :) === dholbach already has one :) [09:20] hey, don't burn him! [09:20] <\sh> well...beer has to wait until u r in berlin ;-) [09:20] herve: how are you? :) [09:20] globally fine :-) === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:21] and locally? [09:21] not a good day [09:22] what went wrong? [09:23] ho the same things we discuss often [09:23] girls, money, job :) [09:24] <\sh> oh..same applies to me..but remove girls ,-) [09:24] and same for me... when you remove job ;) === \sh will order a "realdoll.com" at a later time ,-) [09:24] herve: i can imagine [09:24] hi dholbach [09:24] siretart: hey reinhard, how's it going? [09:24] still in the office [09:25] want to go home :/ [09:25] :-( [09:25] siretart: who do i have to talk to, to make them let you? [09:25] hehe. I'm alone here :)) [09:25] dholbach: did svenl answer you? [09:25] then go :) [09:26] siretart, haha [09:26] i know ;) [09:26] siretart: sven luther on utnubu-list? i answered him today [09:26] siretart, answer is a really friendly word [09:27] ogra: you know how much i appreciate friendly people [09:27] yeah, I also consider his signature ( that line with 'friendly' ) rather sarcastic [09:27] heh [09:27] <\sh> what is with svenl? he was the debian release maintainer working for those pegasos guys, right? [09:28] hehe [09:28] \sh, you dont want to have to do anything with him [09:28] he is.. let's say it in a nice way, a quite difficult person.. [09:28] belive me [09:28] last time I heard about him, he was on #u-d [09:28] siretart, youre to polite... really === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:29] that's the good thing about life... things can improve :) [09:29] and the debate was described as "fight" [09:29] <\sh> ogra: u introduced him last time..and I was begging for a pegasos machine ,-> [09:29] dholbach, in case of svenl i doubt that [09:30] \sh, thast svenl if he has a real good day and feels nice and polite facing other people: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/utnubu-discuss/2005-July/000019.html [09:31] \sh, look at the reply ;) [09:31] ok, /me home, want to catch the tb meeting.. cu [09:31] <\sh> ugh [09:33] Hey, I want a Pegasos machine!! :-) [09:33] <\sh> forget it [09:33] <\sh> only gentoo guys will get some ,-> [09:33] bddebian: me too ;) [09:34] <\sh> ogra: now u know, why I don't want to mess around with 'hardcoded' people [09:34] heh [09:35] :'-( \sh :-) [09:37] dholbach, welcome back [09:37] <\sh> bddebian: it's easier to get them from ebay [09:37] hey Burgundavia, nice to see you too [09:37] \sh: Aye [09:38] dholbach, you had school, no? [09:38] Burgundavia: i'm still busy with my thesis and i'll have to hand it in in 3,5 weeks [09:39] <\sh> u won't believe it...I'm patching now a 10MB source [09:39] <\sh> gzipped [09:39] dholbach, good luck [09:39] thank you :) [09:39] \sh: good look :) when you have time look at ace... 24 mb gzipped sources ;) [09:39] <\sh> actually it's only a couple of bytes... [09:39] <\sh> slomo: I gave up with ace [09:40] <\sh> the latest upstream release should work with gcc4 [09:40] <\sh> slomo: cxx transition ,-) [09:40] \sh: fine... that was also my proposed fix... and even the debian guys think the same ;) [09:41] <\sh> slomo: but the rules file is a mess^10 [09:41] <\sh> u have to patch everything from the beginning, i had problems with finding qmake etc. [09:42] \sh, the same with hydrogen yesterday [09:44] <\sh> herve: no...better...it didn't comply to the standard qt build rules...didn't get the QTDIR correctly etc. only my tries to build latest ace :( [09:45] <\sh> slomo: but I think u will manage it :) [09:45] \sh, mine too [09:46] ok, let's move to the python standards [09:46] here I am comfortable :() [09:46] \sh: what? ace? i don't think so ;) i would wait until the new upstream release is in debian... that would be too much to patch [09:47] <\sh> slomo: when it will be finished? etch+1 ? ,-) [09:48] \sh: no idea... hopefully sometime soon before breezy release ;) otherwise i can try to hack a package around the new version together... [09:52] btw... while we're at new versions ;) can someone look at http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=166 ? === sistpoty [~stefan@DSL01.212.114.237.5.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed [~daniel@iD4CC14FD.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:00] tritium: michael! how's it going? [10:00] Hey dholbach :) [10:00] I'm doing well, thanks. How are you? [10:00] a bit tired, but i'm fine - thanks :) [10:00] It's great to see you! [10:01] Heya tritium [10:01] hey there bddebian [10:02] meeting started [10:02] <\sh> meeting time [10:02] it's nice to see you all too - in one month i'll have more time again, to hang out with you too :) [10:02] me too :) [10:02] yay! [10:03] <\sh> dholbach: u r attending TB? yes, come on ,) [10:04] sh: absolutely - i'm already there [10:04] <\sh> oh :) [10:06] hi folks [10:06] hi siretart [10:07] huhu sistpoty :) [10:08] <\sh> hmmm...fixed kimbada === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [~gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed [~daniel@iD4CC1A38.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-96-129-148.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:39] o_O [10:39] I jsut said to my gf [10:39] #you cna call me adam now [10:39] and she said waht [10:40] I said MOTU [10:40] she said [10:40] oh *drools* he-man [10:40] grr [10:40] hrhr [10:40] :-) [10:40] lol [10:40] hello jbailey [10:41] jbailey: hi jeff :) [10:41] lol, and she's gonna be in #ubuntu soon :D [10:43] Hi. =) [10:43] Mez: :-) [10:43] Heya jbailey [10:43] re after long time without network access :-) [10:46] and thats her [10:46] Emly [10:51] morning === ajmitch is missing a meeting again :( [10:52] ajmitch: hey andrew :) [10:53] hi ajmitch [10:53] morning ajmitch [10:54] hi === spacey_ki [~spacey@87.76.17.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:05] is it really necessary to force debhelper >= 4.2.28 if we want Python 2.4? [11:07] it's for a rocking dh_python, i recall [11:07] 4.2.28 says 'Add 2.4 to python_allversions' [11:08] so if you don't use that version or higher, it complains [11:08] what complains? [11:11] dh_python === ajmitch wonders if he should ever apply for main upload rights :) [11:11] but the package remains 100% usable? [11:11] I'd really like to drop two ubuntu versions :-) [11:12] ? [11:12] it only really matter for backports now, I think [11:13] since a newer debhelper is in sid [11:13] yes, me fool [11:13] we DO have debhelper >= 4.2.28 in breezy [11:13] yoohoo! [11:13] of course.. [11:14] if we didn't, then there'd be no point having that build-dep :) [11:14] 4.2.28 went into hoary as well [11:14] sometimes I just follow the rules too much -:) [11:14] hehe [11:15] so backporting to sarge would be the only one to lookout for :) [11:15] or warty, if you're desperate === ajmitch must go off to work, will bbiab [11:15] that was an awesome meeting - thanks to all of you who were involved so much! [11:15] yeah, backporting in a word ;-) [11:15] LET'S MAKE BREEZY UNIVERSE ROCK! === SloMo_ [~slomo@p5487DBA3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:16] dholbach: how much longer on your thesis? [11:16] if we have \sh & dholbach, there won't be any work left for the rest of us ;) [11:16] ajmitch: i'll be out of trouble (thesis handed in, project done with my dad, moved, ...) in early september [11:16] ajmitch: don't worry :) === ajmitch will just have to sit back & relax then... :) [11:17] siretart: is it just the normal ghc6 circular-dep-wait-from-hell issue? === bddebian doesn't comment on ajmitch [11:17] bddebian: a good thing, too [11:17] lamont: more or less, yes [11:17] ajmitch: :-) [11:17] lamont: we tried working around that, but didn't succeed [11:18] ok, 4 packages less to merge! [11:18] night all [11:18] herve: super! thank you! [11:18] herve: sleep tight [11:18] night herve :) [11:18] <\sh> thx herve and good night :) [11:18] nigh herve and thanks :) [11:18] Later her [11:18] herve even [11:18] argh! I lost the fourth one! [11:18] Damn tab completion [11:18] night all [11:19] herve: zope-* ? [11:19] hehe, thanks all [11:19] <\sh> I need a towl now... [11:19] ajmitch, I did two today, too, yes === jan1 [~pet@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:19] herve: which ones? I forgot to take a couple on the list that I worked on [11:20] lamont: the problem is that libgmp3 is not available in breezy anymore, it was transitioned to libgmp3c2, so ghc6 is not installable anymore [11:20] siretart: right. bludgeon as needed. got it. [11:20] hello again ! [11:20] back home [11:20] ANd haskel-utils build-deps ghc6 and ghc6 depends haskel-utils right? [11:20] Heya comadreja [11:20] yep, [11:20] ok, got back the fab fourth -:) [11:20] congratulations to all new motus :D [11:20] siretart: "sometime this week" fit within your needs? [11:21] lamont: sure === tritium congratulates all the new MOTUs [11:21] but haskell-utils should build with slightly modified build-deps (alternate dependency problem) [11:21] who are the new motus? [11:21] <\sh> comadreja , slomo, madduck, nafallo [11:22] yeah, congrats to you [11:22] martin? you wouldn't have hesitated long ;() [11:22] wee! :-D [11:22] congrats Nafallo and others [11:22] <\sh> hmmm... [11:22] \sh: hmmm...? [11:23] \sh: packaging jabberd for main? ;-) [11:23] (1) [11:23] Yeah congrats Nafallo, SloMo_, madduck, and comadreja!!! [11:23] dholbach, when you finish we need to have a celebration :) [11:23] <\sh> Nafallo: actually ejabberd is much more stable then jabberd2 [11:23] tritium: absolutely :) [11:23] ajmitch, that was zope-stripogram and zope-rdfgrabber, the last ones if I reacll [11:23] <\sh> but I can try to fix X now ,-) [11:23] :) [11:24] try is the word :-) [11:24] \sh: hahaha. [11:24] \sh: ejabberd for main then :-) [11:24] <\sh> Nafallo: breezy +1 :) [11:24] \sh: atleast for breezy+1 if jabberd2 haven't settled down :-) === DanielN`aw [~daniel@84-72-116-21.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:25] Here I go [11:25] \sh: when you fix X you're my hero ;) [11:25] hi and bye DanielN :-) [11:25] see you all later [11:25] <\sh> SloMo_: no ways..I don't like flying around in pyjamas ,-) === TMM [~hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:26] how do we get now the upload rights btw ? [11:27] wiki.ubuntu.com/Uploads knows === DanielN`aw is now known as DanielN [11:27] cool, thanks :) [11:28] brb === jamessan|laptop [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:29] I was finished with the mails before the meeting was over :-) [11:29] actually uploads@ was sent before the weekend ;-) [11:31] Good evening, everyone. [11:31] <\sh> hey tritium [11:32] Heya tritium [11:32] hi bddebian, hi \sh ! [11:32] Heya DanielN === tritium rephrases: good night, all! :) === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-18.ecn.purdue.edu] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ajmitch guesses he uploaded zope-stripogram before herve did.. [11:37] <\sh> hey DanielN [11:38] :) [11:38] how's the merge list looking now? [11:38] Long :-) [11:38] good night everybody :) [11:38] very useful, bddebian [11:38] night dholbach [11:38] Gnight dholbach [11:39] ajmitch: That's me :-) [11:39] :P [11:39] night you two :) [11:39] ajmitch: Down to 89 and some I have already tagged as pendingupload === ajmitch grabs hardware-monitor [11:41] Didn't I already do that? [11:41] you set it as pending & left a comment there [11:41] <\sh> ajmitch can upload :) [11:41] but someone still has to do the upload [11:41] Oh, sorry [11:44] and it's an app that I use :) [11:44] Ah, nice === bddebian hopes it builds [11:45] it ought do [11:45] :-) [11:45] since looking at the ubuntu diff, there are minimal changes [11:45] they can probably all be dropped, in fact === ajmitch checks on libgtop2-dev version in sid === rtcm [~jman@217.129.142.72] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:46] yeah, might be to good to drop them all [11:47] Didn't believe me eh? :-) [11:47] Mez: are backports from archive.u.c. working yet? [11:47] the ones that are in the archive, yes [11:47] OK, I gotta head home. Later folks. I'll try to hit a few more merges tonight [11:47] Mez: how do you add packages to be backported? [11:47] http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Lists/hoary-backports.all.i386 [11:48] siretart, I poke elmo [11:48] bddebian: I've got to review anything you put up, remember :) [11:48] ajmitch: Aye :-) [11:48] bddebian: thanks for that :) [11:48] dholbach: For what? [11:48] ajmitch: i was doing some reviews as well :) === ajmitch grabs snacc, just for fun [11:48] bddebian: being involved like that [11:48] dholbach: Oh, no problem. :-) [11:48] Mez: ah, I see. do you have a policy what will be/can be backported? what about main packages? [11:48] Catch ya'll later. [11:49] dholbach: ok, anyway to make sure we don't grab & review the same? :) [11:50] apart from the timezone separation ;) [11:50] Any motu up for correcting php4-gd2? [11:50] sources are still available in archive.ubuntu.com [11:51] but the package does not build because debian/rules isn't executable [11:51] Seveas: what's the problem? [11:51] ah [11:51] that's the *only* compile-time problem [11:51] so far ;) [11:51] Mez: I didn't know you were allowed to backport things like mono? :) [11:52] ajmitch, I just built the package :) [11:52] it's the *only* problem :) [11:52] good [11:52] ajmitch [11:52] I dont [11:52] in what section is the package? [11:52] universe [11:52] hmm [11:52] otherwise I would not have talked to the MOTU [11:52] apt-get source isn't getting it for me [11:52] true [11:53] Seveas: well we can care for multiverse as well [11:53] but the files are still there on archive.ubuntu.com [11:54] php4-gd ? [11:54] or is it gd2? [11:54] php4-gd installs fine [11:55] php4-gd2 is the package i'm talking about [11:55] no idea why it's not showing in the sources list then? [11:56] Mez: you're not backporting mono stuff, but what are you asking about in #u-devel then? [11:56] It shows up in lamont's buildlogs, last entry is from october [11:56] ok folks, I'm off for my bed [11:56] gn8 folks! [11:56] night siretart [11:56] ajmithc - what? [11:57] ajmitch, I'm just looking at a dep-wait on the backport buildds thats all [11:57] gn8 siretart [11:57] Mez: so someone else in the backports team is? [11:57] ajmitch: what package are you referring to [11:57] Mez: gtk-sharp-unstable & cli-common are both mono packages [11:58] they're part of mono? or depend on mono [11:58] does anybody know, who anthony.mercatante@laposte.net is? [11:58] gtk-sharp2-unstable is C# bindings to gtk+ [11:58] see, I didnt know that === Mez slaps himself [11:59] cli-common is a package that has scripts for building any mono package [11:59] bah [11:59] hmm what's the problem with gtk-sharp2-unstable? [11:59] so someone was probably backporting beagle :) [12:00] ajmitch: yes, we had beagle in the old backports ;) [12:01] \sh: what was the package you uploaded today for me which failed on amd64? eris? === sistpoty needs some sleep... gn8 folks === sistpoty [~stefan@DSL01.212.114.237.5.NEFkom.net] has left #ubuntu-motu []