| \sh | SloMo_: no...imms | 12:01 |
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| SloMo_ | ok, thanks... i'll look at it now | 12:02 |
| SloMo_ | hmm, what would i give now for a ssh login on some amd64 machine :( is someone on amd64 here who has some time to test a few changes to this package? | 12:05 |
| dholbach | SloMo_: eris built on all 4 architectures | 12:09 |
| \sh | amd64 machine? yes there was something | 12:10 |
| \sh | Mithrandir: ping u got my mail? :) | 12:10 |
| SloMo_ | dholbach: yeah this was why i asked ;) | 12:10 |
| === ajmitch has a powerpc box to build on now, if he has the patience :) | ||
| ajmitch | I don't think a 400MHz G3 is going to fly | 12:11 |
| SloMo_ | \sh: can you look at imms then? ;) btw, what are you asking Mithrandir to do for you? | 12:14 |
| \sh | SloMo_: tomorrow morning as my first duty :) | 12:15 |
| \sh | ok...time for me to go to bed.. | 12:18 |
| \sh | tomorrow more :) | 12:18 |
| SloMo_ | ok, gn8 \sh :) | 12:18 |
| \sh | and thx again to all of you :) | 12:18 |
| dholbach | bye sh :) | 12:21 |
| SloMo_ | hmm... now i've something to upload and have to wait for my key to be added ;) does someone wants to upload it for me? | 12:24 |
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| dholbach | hey crimsun | 12:28 |
| Nafallo | ogra: ping | 12:28 |
| crimsun | hey dholbach | 12:28 |
| ogra | Nafallo, ? | 12:29 |
| Nafallo | ogra: didn't you fix dput to default to ubuntu? making some of the stuff on wiki.u.c/Uploads irrelevant? :-) | 12:29 |
| ogra | Nafallo, yep | 12:29 |
| Nafallo | ogra: nice. I'm glad I have some sort of memory ;-) | 12:30 |
| ogra | Nafallo, but you never know if someone misses the merge stuff and just syncs, so dont delete it completely | 12:30 |
| ogra | i.e. overrides my changes to dput and pulls the plain debian version in | 12:30 |
| ogra | but feel free to correct the page ;) | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | ogra: naah, I'm just to lazy to edit things. so I probably do not edit the wiki either ;-) | 12:31 |
| ogra | :) | 12:32 |
| Nafallo | I will probably be to most lazy MOTU yet ;-) | 12:33 |
| dholbach | Nafallo: that's a tough competition :/ | 12:33 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: get in line! ;) | 12:33 |
| Nafallo | dholbach: well, you got IRL-stuff going on ;-) | 12:33 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: and you got debian :-P | 12:33 |
| === ajmitch is one of the laziest.. | ||
| Nafallo | I got Ubuntu :-) | 12:34 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: not at all | 12:34 |
| Nafallo | and porn-torrents ;-) | 12:34 |
| === DanielN is now known as DanielN`aw | ||
| ajmitch | yay, new server for work might be debian | 12:35 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: we have quite a lot of motus on the list that never did more than 1-2 uploads themselves | 12:35 |
| ajmitch | for a few weeks I didn't do any | 12:35 |
| === dholbach adds an "at all" to his previous sentence | ||
| ajmitch | I've got a lot of catching up to do ;) | 12:35 |
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| pete | Hi all :) could someone answer my question on this bug, please :-) http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11613 | 01:05 |
| SloMo_ | pete: i would incorporate the patch | 01:08 |
| pete | SloMo_: ok, thanks | 01:08 |
| ajmitch | it should be in debian soon, and we can fix up changes next time round | 01:09 |
| ajmitch | so long as it builds now :) | 01:09 |
| pete | hmm.. but after setting the bug-state to NEEDINFO I can't set it to PENDING, what should I do? | 01:15 |
| SloMo_ | pete: maybe reassign to you and then set to pending | 01:17 |
| SloMo_ | pete: but don't know whether this works ;) | 01:17 |
| pete | SloMo_: it did :P | 01:18 |
| Mez | pete, do you have Editbugs | 01:19 |
| Mez | grr | 01:19 |
| Mez | brb | 01:19 |
| ajmitch | should I get wxwidgets 2.6 dragged in from experimental? | 01:20 |
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| crimsun | I asked already, doko has it covered | 01:21 |
| crimsun | he wants it in main | 01:21 |
| crimsun | which is fine by me, cos then I can build vlc against it :) | 01:21 |
| tseng | rock on | 01:21 |
| tseng | it would be nice to have another decent video player | 01:21 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: wonderful | 01:21 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: that'll let me get boa constructor 0.4.0 in, instead of merging for 0.3.0 | 01:22 |
| === ajmitch will have to fix his own wx-dependant packages though | ||
| crimsun | yep, been waiting for wxwidgets2.6.1 forever =) | 01:22 |
| ajmitch | gnue-designer doesn't like it, last I saw | 01:23 |
| ajmitch | but I'll bug uptream mercilessly | 01:23 |
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| lamont | GC.c:83: error: static declaration of 'static_objects' follows non-static declaration | 01:42 |
| lamont | ../includes/Storage.h:408: error: previous declaration of 'static_objects' was here | 01:42 |
| lamont | someone want to really make ghc6 actually compile with gcc-4.0 while I go to class for a while??? | 01:43 |
| === lamont looks signficantly at siretart | ||
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| Mez | siretart, ping | 01:57 |
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| Tonio | little question concerning the licence in the copyright folder in a package | 02:11 |
| tseng | Lathiat: | 02:11 |
| tseng | Lathiat:s:f:g | 02:11 |
| Tonio | supposing the licence is GPL, do I just have to paste the gpl licence . | 02:11 |
| tseng | i typed l: | 02:12 |
| Tonio | ? | 02:12 |
| Lathiat | tseng: well uh | 02:12 |
| Lathiat | tseng: yourou have somethign sucky somewhere | 02:12 |
| tseng | Lathiat: like a regex | 02:12 |
| tseng | l:s:f:g | 02:13 |
| tseng | rock on. | 02:13 |
| Lathiat | tseng: :) | 02:13 |
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| SloMo_ | gn8 everybody :) | 02:25 |
| bddebian | Gnight SloMo_ | 02:26 |
| tseng | \sh_away: interested in checking out mythtv? looks like C++ vs gcc4 issue to me | 02:51 |
| tseng | \sh_away: on my latest test build | 02:51 |
| ajmitch | hey tseng | 02:51 |
| tseng | hi | 02:52 |
| tseng | im updating my desktop to breezy | 02:52 |
| tseng | for kicks | 02:52 |
| ajmitch | lovely | 02:53 |
| ajmitch | I think there's still X breakage | 02:53 |
| tseng | i know the gorey details | 02:54 |
| tseng | ive been runny breezy on my laptop (main machine) since it opened | 02:54 |
| Burgundavia | actually, the people that updated early (like myself), seem to have a better time of it | 02:55 |
| tseng | meh | 02:55 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: yeah, I haven't shut down my X server for a few weeks | 02:55 |
| ajmitch | so things still run for me | 02:55 |
| chillywilly | hi ajmitch | 02:55 |
| ajmitch | hello chillywilly | 02:55 |
| tseng | i havent had X break badly enough yet that i couldnt fix | 02:55 |
| tseng | and i update every day | 02:55 |
| tseng | you guys just arent persistant enough | 02:55 |
| ajmitch | xlibs still fails with /etc/X11/xkb stuff here | 02:56 |
| tseng | or you want to press funnny keys on non-US keyboards | 02:56 |
| ajmitch | again | 02:56 |
| Burgundavia | I have only had X not start once | 02:56 |
| tseng | ajmitch: dude i fixed that by hand days ago | 02:56 |
| ajmitch | tseng: congratulations | 02:56 |
| tseng | ill fix it again | 02:56 |
| ajmitch | I've done that once, first time it broke | 02:56 |
| bddebian | Yeah ajmitch :-) | 02:56 |
| tseng | no big deal | 02:56 |
| tseng | damn naysayers | 02:56 |
| chillywilly | settle down fellas | 02:56 |
| tseng | dude | 02:57 |
| === bddebian boots chillywilly | ||
| chillywilly | don't make we whip the trout out | 02:57 |
| bddebian | heh | 02:57 |
| chillywilly | I'll do it ;) | 02:57 |
| ajmitch | you have the right to make jokes in here only after you've got a few packages uploaded | 02:58 |
| bddebian | Hmm, does that include me too? | 02:58 |
| chillywilly | pffft | 02:58 |
| chillywilly | ajmitch: you need to loosen up some | 02:58 |
| bddebian | chillywilly: Don't work, tseng hates me too :-) | 02:59 |
| bddebian | Err s/work/worry | 02:59 |
| === chillywilly is not effected in the least bit | ||
| chillywilly | but I *thought* ajmitchie was my buddy | 02:59 |
| bddebian | :-) | 03:00 |
| chillywilly | we go back a long way ;) | 03:00 |
| chillywilly | I remember when ajmitchie used to run mandrake ;) | 03:00 |
| ajmitch | that was a long time ago | 03:00 |
| bddebian | haha | 03:00 |
| bddebian | Mandark | 03:00 |
| ajmitch | I don't admit to that anymore | 03:00 |
| chillywilly | lol | 03:00 |
| tseng | oh man | 03:01 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, I ran into a nasty bug with networkmanager and X being dead | 03:01 |
| bddebian | chillywilly is probably the only person in here who has a chance of knowing who Mandark is.. ;-P | 03:01 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: I haven't used networkmanager yet | 03:01 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch, nm kills networking without the whole thing running (which requires X) | 03:02 |
| Burgundavia | so I couldn't update anything | 03:02 |
| === chillywilly is trying to get samba to allow network browsing across an openvpn tunnel via WINS | ||
| bddebian | Ugh, why? | 03:02 |
| chillywilly | I am building a VPN for MX | 03:02 |
| chillywilly | I thought it would be fun ;) | 03:02 |
| ajmitch | chillywilly: so when will you be helping out with motu work? :) | 03:03 |
| chillywilly | hey Ic an ping the end-points of the tunnel and hosts in each private subnet...just gotta get samba to cooperate | 03:03 |
| chillywilly | *sigh* | 03:03 |
| bddebian | chillywilly: Which side is wins on or are you trying to make Samba the WINS? | 03:04 |
| chillywilly | ajmitch: hey, I at least have a vague idea of how it's al done now :) | 03:04 |
| chillywilly | all* | 03:04 |
| ajmitch | chillywilly: great, you can start fixing stuff then | 03:04 |
| bddebian | ajmitch is a slave driver | 03:04 |
| tseng | yes plz | 03:04 |
| chillywilly | bddebian: the openvpn server end of the tunnel is the WINS server now | 03:05 |
| chillywilly | 10.8.0.1 or some such | 03:05 |
| tseng | *then* you can give me crap about trout | 03:05 |
| bddebian | chillywilly: Are you getting name resolution at all? | 03:05 |
| chillywilly | bddebian: nope | 03:05 |
| chillywilly | not across the tunnel | 03:05 |
| chillywilly | think I will read through the howto book anyway | 03:05 |
| bddebian | Add a hosts entry ;-P | 03:05 |
| chillywilly | yea I suppose I could do that, but should I have to? | 03:06 |
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| chillywilly | I only have wins in the resolve line | 03:06 |
| ajmitch | ah, snacc has a nice big diff.. | 03:07 |
| bddebian | WINS can be problematic across routers. You'd be better off with dns or hosts | 03:07 |
| chillywilly | bah | 03:07 |
| === bddebian thinks daniels hates him too | ||
| crimsun | nah, he's probably strangling xorg | 03:08 |
| bddebian | :-) | 03:08 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: I added a comment about dropping all ubuntu changes to hardware-monitr, if you don't mind :) | 03:08 |
| tritium | hello all | 03:08 |
| bddebian | Of course it probably doesn't help that I am annoying.. :-) | 03:08 |
| tseng | hi | 03:08 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Isn't that what I said in my comment? | 03:08 |
| bddebian | Hello again tritium :-) | 03:09 |
| chillywilly | I don't think it wants to use the tunnel because it is not a broadcast interface | 03:09 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: no, you said that the ubuntu dropped parts can be ignored | 03:09 |
| ajmitch | I'm saying that it can be a straight sync, drop all ubuntu changes | 03:09 |
| bddebian | Ooohh | 03:09 |
| ajmitch | minimising changes is good, it means we don't have to sync it next time round :) | 03:10 |
| tritium | bddebian, want to give me a tutorial on merging? From today's meeting where you got recognition for it, I figure you're good at it :) | 03:10 |
| bddebian | tritium: Nah, I suck :-) | 03:10 |
| bddebian | tritium: Whatdo you want to know? ( I keep meaning to put up a wiki ) | 03:10 |
| bddebian | tseng: What is the packagename for mythtv? | 03:11 |
| tritium | bddebian, teach me everything you know, master jedi | 03:11 |
| === ajmitch has a script or two to streamline merging | ||
| tritium | I've been gone so long, I want the Merging 101 with illustrations course | 03:12 |
| ajmitch | tritium: grab merge files from MOM, read REPORT, do as it says ;) | 03:12 |
| tseng | bddebian: mythtv? | 03:12 |
| crimsun | the REPORT's fairly useful | 03:13 |
| tritium | ajmitch, many thanks. Please tell me what your scripts do? | 03:13 |
| ajmitch | check that it builds, works as intended, and that unwanted changes haven't crept in | 03:13 |
| ajmitch | tritium: just some things to run wget, put the files in a new directory | 03:13 |
| ajmitch | and a script to get a list of changed packages with regards to sid | 03:13 |
| === ajmitch takesa look at oregano | ||
| tritium | are you making them available? | 03:14 |
| havoc | mmm, oregano | 03:14 |
| ajmitch | no, a 3 line shell script isn't something I'd normally think to publish :) | 03:14 |
| chillywilly | hey havoc | 03:15 |
| tritium | ajmitch, okay ;) | 03:15 |
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| ajmitch | tritium: mkdir, cd, and wget don't make for interesting reading | 03:16 |
| tritium | fair enough | 03:16 |
| bddebian | tseng: apt-get source myth-tv yeilds nothing | 03:17 |
| tseng | i didnt say myth-tv | 03:17 |
| tseng | not once. | 03:17 |
| ajmitch | tritium: some packages you may wish to merge changes by hand instead of relying on MOM | 03:17 |
| bddebian | I meant mythtv, that was a typo | 03:17 |
| ajmitch | especially when it's useless config.* changes | 03:18 |
| tseng | well, its there | 03:18 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: look in multiverse kthx | 03:18 |
| bddebian | I should have universe/multiverse | 03:18 |
| tritium | ajmitch, okay, thanks. Let me orient myself a bit here... | 03:18 |
| bddebian | tritium: Sorry, ajmitch is obviously faster than me.. :-) | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: good, because it's there, under the name of mythtv | 03:19 |
| tritium | bddebian, no problem | 03:19 |
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| bddebian | Bah, why am I bother with shit in multiverse? :-) | 03:21 |
| bddebian | Hey mythtv_0.18.2 whatya know.. :-) | 03:23 |
| === ajmitch is suprised that bddebian is still here - weren't you told not to associate with ubuntu? ;) | ||
| bddebian | ajmitch: Oh, I should show you his reply | 03:24 |
| bddebian | brb.. smoke | 03:25 |
| ajmitch | was it a private mail? | 03:25 |
| chillywilly | who told him not to associate with ubuntu? | 03:25 |
| ajmitch | RMS, of course :) | 03:26 |
| chillywilly | are you serious?!? | 03:26 |
| ajmitch | ubuntu distributes non-free software | 03:27 |
| chillywilly | so does everyone else | 03:27 |
| crimsun | brb | 03:27 |
| bddebian | ack, why is mythtv using gcc-3.3...?? | 03:31 |
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| tseng | so after all that | 03:45 |
| tseng | X still cant find fixed | 03:45 |
| tseng | wtf | 03:45 |
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| tseng | fixed the font paths | 03:45 |
| tseng | what was the fix for that? | 03:45 |
| bddebian | Why does common.h fail on lines 61 and 65 and not 63. Makes no sense.. | 03:46 |
| bddebian | Ohh, nm | 03:46 |
| bddebian | tseng: Why not pull the newer version from upstream? | 03:49 |
| bddebian | Because of UVF? | 03:49 |
| tseng | the newer version only has small fixes | 03:49 |
| tseng | we can proabbly get it approved | 03:49 |
| tseng | if it started building | 03:49 |
| tseng | BWAR you made me miss grub | 03:50 |
| bddebian | Supposedly if has gcc4 fixes according to a Fedora mailing list | 03:50 |
| tseng | hm | 03:50 |
| tseng | can you test it ? | 03:50 |
| bddebian | Sure but building packages from scratch isn't exaclty my strong suite yet :-) | 03:51 |
| tseng | the build at least, i can test using it | 03:51 |
| tseng | dude its not "from scratch" | 03:51 |
| bddebian | Well I mean from upstream source :-) | 03:52 |
| tseng | meh | 03:52 |
| ajmitch | yeah, we need hct, it sounds like good crack | 04:00 |
| ajmitch | might make some of this merging a bit saner | 04:01 |
| bddebian | hct? | 04:01 |
| bddebian | tseng: Trying now | 04:01 |
| ajmitch | hypothetical changeset tool | 04:01 |
| bddebian | Ahh | 04:01 |
| bddebian | Speaking of which, is debdiff fixed in main yet? | 04:01 |
| === ajmitch shrugs | ||
| bddebian | Nope.. :-) | 04:05 |
| bddebian | Damn mythtv is as bad or worse than octave | 04:12 |
| bddebian | tseng: Do you know if mythplugins and myththemes are built into the current package? | 04:14 |
| crimsun | wow | 04:30 |
| crimsun | these Xfce-related ones will disappear once 4.2.2 from os-works is merged | 04:30 |
| bddebian | Glad I didn't start on those yet then :) | 04:31 |
| crimsun | yeah, we need to merge them from os-works, so you'll want to ignore the xf* ones | 04:32 |
| crimsun | bbl | 04:40 |
| bddebian | tseng: Dunno if you are still around or not but the updates from svn for mythtv get ALOT further. Now it chokes on a missing class declaration in libmpeg (I think) | 04:42 |
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| bddebian | If a merged package FTBFS due to missing dependency, what should I tag it as? UPSTREAM? | 04:56 |
| === bddebian loves this channel this time of night.. :-) | ||
| Tonio | someone out there ? | 05:20 |
| bddebian | Nope :) | 05:20 |
| Tonio | lol | 05:20 |
| Tonio | bddebian: can you revue packages ? because I think all the problems in my packages are resolved, but before uploading everything, I'd just like to see if it seems correct ;) | 05:21 |
| bddebian | Whassup? Not that I can help but I'll try | 05:21 |
| bddebian | Tonio: No, I'm not an MOTU, sorry | 05:21 |
| Tonio | okay ;) | 05:21 |
| Tonio | I'll start the upgrade and we'll see ;) | 05:22 |
| bddebian | Good luck :-) | 05:26 |
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| ajmitch | looks like you have a good list of merge bugs there bddebian ;) | 05:37 |
| bddebian | like anyone cares.. :'-( | 05:38 |
| bddebian | ;-P | 05:38 |
| ajmitch | bah, stop whining :P | 05:38 |
| bddebian | OK, the ubuntu dropped patches for caudium are just weird | 05:38 |
| === ajmitch takes a look at libccaudio | ||
| crimsun | caudium was pretty crazy | 05:39 |
| bddebian | And ignoring those, caudium wants pike7.6-dev (>= 7.6.27-2) and we have 7.6.24-1ubuntu1 | 05:39 |
| crimsun | yup, the whole pike7.x mess | 05:40 |
| bddebian | So leave it for now? | 05:40 |
| crimsun | go for it if you'd like | 05:40 |
| bddebian | How would I get around the pike build-dep? | 05:41 |
| bddebian | Lower the dep and try it or try to get a newer pike from Debian? | 05:42 |
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| crimsun | the best bet is to try with the newest pike7.6 from Debian | 05:43 |
| === ajmitch does some patch cleaning | ||
| ajmitch | copy & paste of patch doesn't work too well at times :) | 05:44 |
| chillywilly | lalala | 05:45 |
| bddebian | chillywilly: Is that some new package you are building? | 05:45 |
| === bddebian hides | ||
| ajmitch | yes, very useful, chillywilly :P | 05:45 |
| chillywilly | :) | 05:45 |
| chillywilly | crikey, you guys are relentless | 05:46 |
| bddebian | chillywilly: :-* | 05:46 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: What did I do wrong with libccaudio? | 05:46 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: nothing, I'm about to upload it | 05:47 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: I thought you said you had to fix it? | 05:48 |
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| bddebian | Welcome ogra and ogra's daemon :-) | 05:49 |
| Amaranth | he is susus too? | 05:49 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: I had to clean up the patch that I copied & pasted | 05:49 |
| bddebian | Hmm, maybe :-) | 05:49 |
| crimsun | (s)he? | 05:49 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Ahh, OK | 05:49 |
| ajmitch | a simple tabs/spaces issue | 05:49 |
| Amaranth | crimsun: susus, ogra, and ogra_d are all the same exact hostmask and joined at the same time. | 05:50 |
| crimsun | Amaranth, yep. Who knows who really lurks behind those nicks? | 05:50 |
| bddebian | MOM does some weird shit sometimes or we have OLD patches lying around | 05:54 |
| crimsun | both | 05:55 |
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| bddebian | How can albatros build python2.3-albatross without build-depending python2.3? | 05:56 |
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| tritium | hm, I can't setup a breezy chroot, as it fails with error E: couldn't download libiw27 | 06:05 |
| tritium | I have a pbuilder chroot setup and ready, but in order to test packages built in pbuilder, I also wanted a separate chroot | 06:06 |
| bddebian | Build a local apt repository :-) | 06:08 |
| crimsun | tritium, I've always built a Hoary chroot/pbuilder and dist-upgraded to Breezy | 06:11 |
| bddebian | Aye, that is what I ended up having to do with pbuilder | 06:12 |
| tritium | I guess that's a possibility. I held off running breezy, as I wanted stability until I finished my research/dissertation | 06:12 |
| crimsun | even at the moment, it's not advisable to run full-blown Breezy til Xorg is straightened out | 06:13 |
| tritium | yeah, that's another reason I was planning on a chroot | 06:13 |
| === ajmitch dreads the uninstallable package list that will appear at some point | ||
| ajmitch | it'll make the merge list look trivial | 06:14 |
| ajmitch | or the FTBFS list when someone decides to rebuild the archive | 06:15 |
| ajmitch | as happened with hoary | 06:15 |
| lamont | anyone working on ghc6 source fixes? | 06:15 |
| bddebian | sistpoty was | 06:15 |
| bddebian | I think it still needs ghc6-bootstrap to build haskel-utils, but ghc6-bootstrap is on REVU | 06:16 |
| bddebian | But don't quote me | 06:16 |
| lamont | well, it's ftbfs because of gcc-4.0 errors... I'm playing with 6.4-4ubuntu1 some now | 06:25 |
| bddebian | You got around the haskel-utils build-dep? | 06:26 |
| lamont | uh, well... | 06:27 |
| lamont | I made libgmp3 exist | 06:27 |
| crimsun | Z time | 06:34 |
| chillywilly | bddebian: you better get to bed soon before you end up sleeping on the couch ;) | 06:36 |
| bddebian | chillywilly: Aye no kidding :-) | 06:36 |
| === chillywilly is hungry again | ||
| === bddebian hands chillywilly a cheesesteak | ||
| bddebian | And the MOTUToMerge list.. | 06:41 |
| === bddebian hides | ||
| chillywilly | mmm, cheesesteak | 06:43 |
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| === chillywilly is learning about NT domains and what samba can do | ||
| chillywilly | such fun... | 06:43 |
| bddebian | Heh | 06:43 |
| ajmitch | you poor fellow | 06:43 |
| jbailey | Hmm | 06:53 |
| jbailey | What is this, the former Hurd crowd invades #ubunu-motu? =) | 06:54 |
| bddebian | Heh | 06:54 |
| bddebian | What do you mean "former" ? ;-) | 06:54 |
| jbailey | =) | 06:54 |
| bddebian | Updating dependencies...make[5] : *** [.deps.o] Error 127 WTF is that?? | 06:55 |
| ajmitch | hey jeff | 06:55 |
| jbailey | bddebian: A 7-bit all ones? | 06:55 |
| jbailey | G'm Andrew | 06:55 |
| ajmitch | how are you? | 06:55 |
| jbailey | Sleepy. | 06:55 |
| jbailey | But I've just uplaoded a new initramfs-tools that I want to put out a call for testers for. | 06:56 |
| jbailey | So I'm waiting until it hits the archive. | 06:56 |
| lamont | Interpreter.c: In function 'interpretBCO': | 06:58 |
| lamont | Interpreter.c:1054: error: invalid lvalue in unary '&' | 06:58 |
| lamont | Interpreter.c:1067: error: invalid lvalue in unary '&' | 06:58 |
| lamont | Interpreter.c:1080: error: invalid lvalue in unary '&' | 06:58 |
| lamont | Interpreter.c:1093: error: invalid lvalue in unary '&' | 06:58 |
| === lamont throws ghc6 back to siretart et al. Please don't ask for a bootstrap until you upload something that is gcc-4.0 capable. | ||
| lamont | kthxbye | 06:59 |
| bddebian | Doh | 06:59 |
| === jbailey looks up and realises that lamont isn't larting *him* for a change. | ||
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| jbailey | Is there an easy way to tell dpkg-source -b to not include .bzr / {arch} / whatever directories in the source? | 07:01 |
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| lamont | jbailey: debuild -i | 07:01 |
| lamont | er, debuild -i -S :-) | 07:01 |
| jbailey | lamont: Ooo, thanks. =) | 07:02 |
| lamont | although it might need some love to know about .bzr | 07:02 |
| ajmitch | 86 merge bugs still open for us.. | 07:02 |
| === ajmitch will bbiab | ||
| bddebian | Shouldn't be.. | 07:02 |
| jbailey | Hmm. debuild -i.bzr -S didn't do it. | 07:03 |
| lamont | -i doesn't take args | 07:04 |
| lamont | it just knows | 07:04 |
| jbailey | Oh> | 07:04 |
| jbailey | The manpage for dpkg-buildpackage has: | 07:04 |
| jbailey | -i[<regexp>] | 07:04 |
| lamont | oh, ok | 07:04 |
| jbailey | doesn't matter, you could still be right. | 07:04 |
| jbailey | It's not like it worked. =) | 07:04 |
| jbailey | Oh, it's for the diff. | 07:05 |
| jbailey | This is a native package (initramfs-tools) | 07:05 |
| === jbailey hates the distinction and wants it to go away. | ||
| lamont | tar --exclude=... :-) | 07:05 |
| jbailey | I need to create a bzr-buildpackage | 07:08 |
| Unfrgiven | hi all | 07:08 |
| tritium | yay, building breezy's debootstrap on hoary worked. I have a breezy chroot now | 07:09 |
| bddebian | Yeah.. | 07:09 |
| === bddebian dances around tritium | ||
| bddebian | Hello Unfrgiven | 07:09 |
| tritium | heh | 07:09 |
| bddebian | OK, well I better get to bed. Gnight folks. Enjoy | 07:09 |
| tritium | good night, bddebian | 07:10 |
| Unfrgiven | bddebian: gnite | 07:10 |
| chillywilly | jeffy | 07:10 |
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| siretart | morning | 08:03 |
| siretart | lamont: I will look more deeply into ghc for gcc4 and report back. | 08:03 |
| ajmitch | hi siretart | 08:07 |
| siretart | huhu Andrew | 08:08 |
| === siretart detects increased revu traffic.. :) | ||
| Tonio | hi | 08:22 |
| Unfrgiven | Tonio: hi | 08:22 |
| Tonio | Unfrgiven: I should have said good night, 8:30 am here in france and still not to bed.... | 08:24 |
| Unfrgiven | Tonio: you were up the whole night? | 08:24 |
| Tonio | yep | 08:24 |
| Tonio | very knew to debian's world, but I really want to learn how to build packages correctly ;) | 08:25 |
| Tonio | I think now it is okay ^^ | 08:25 |
| Tonio | well I hope, let's see the revus.... | 08:25 |
| Unfrgiven | Tonio: cool :) | 08:26 |
| Unfrgiven | siretart: ping? | 08:26 |
| ajmitch | hey Unfrgiven , Tonio | 08:31 |
| Tonio | ajmitch: yep ? | 08:32 |
| ajmitch | just saying hi.. | 08:33 |
| Tonio | hey = hi, okay ;) | 08:33 |
| Tonio | here in france hey is a way to call someone to tell him something so..... | 08:33 |
| === Tonio fills stupid... | ||
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: hey dude | 08:35 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: how r ya | 08:35 |
| Tonio | ajmitch: so, hey ;) | 08:35 |
| siretart | Unfrgiven: bug quick, I need to get to work ;) | 08:35 |
| ajmitch | doing well, how about you? | 08:35 |
| siretart | s/bug/but/ | 08:35 |
| ajmitch | Unfrgiven: how are those intro developer docs going? | 08:36 |
| siretart | huhu Tonio :) | 08:36 |
| Tonio | hi siretart ;) | 08:36 |
| Tonio | siretart: I hope the packages are good this time, cause I spent time.... | 08:36 |
| siretart | Tonio: I'm currently too busy this week to do reviews, but we have new reviewers: Mez and slomo :) | 08:37 |
| Tonio | siretart: no pb, I'll see with Riddell too, he told me to tell him when the list is all packaged ;) | 08:38 |
| siretart | super | 08:39 |
| siretart | ok. I'm off to uni now. cu later! | 08:39 |
| Tonio | still 4 apps to finish and I go to bed... | 08:39 |
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| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: sorry was away... about to head off from work | 09:07 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: ive been away/sick for the last 4 weeks and hence there hasn't been much progress on the docs. i really should wrap them up. ill do what i can to get them out the door asap | 09:07 |
| ajmitch | Unfrgiven: that's ok, I've been pretty busy too | 09:09 |
| Burgundavia | Unfrgiven, what format are they in? | 09:18 |
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| Lathiat | yay my box of hoary cds rocked up today | 09:39 |
| jsgotangco | wow that took a while | 09:40 |
| Treenaks | mine haven't even been sent yet | 09:40 |
| Lathiat | yeh well its a shame mine didnt come earlier but oh well | 09:40 |
| Burgundavia | those who got warty cds got lower priority | 09:41 |
| Treenaks | Burgundavia: I know | 09:42 |
| Lathiat | Burgundavia: ah so i should have opened a new account? ;p | 09:43 |
| Lathiat | well hoary is a kicking release, i can go nuts giving them away now | 09:43 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 09:44 |
| Burgundavia | and the release path is going to be easy | 09:44 |
| Burgundavia | we may care about getting the latest crack, but grandma isn;t | 09:44 |
| Lathiat | well hoary is pretty good | 09:44 |
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| \sh | morning | 09:48 |
| Valandil | good morning :)) | 09:50 |
| Tonio- | good morning! | 09:51 |
| \sh | SloMo_: ping ;) | 09:58 |
| comadreja | goor morning motus | 09:59 |
| comadreja | s/goor/good :D | 09:59 |
| siretart | re | 10:11 |
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| \sh | doko: ping u need some help with libcurl3? | 10:36 |
| doko | no, already done | 10:36 |
| \sh | doko: k | 10:37 |
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| HostingGeek | Could we get this in the ubuntu web site | 10:54 |
| HostingGeek | http://www.mambocurve.com/ | 10:55 |
| HostingGeek | some thing like that but way better... | 10:55 |
| \sh | HostingGeek: #ubuntu-devel | 11:02 |
| \sh | and I don't like those games...it's not user friendly..and slow | 11:03 |
| HostingGeek | --- Cannot join #ubuntu-devel (You are banned). | 11:03 |
| HostingGeek | hmm | 11:03 |
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| \sh | HostingGeek: what did u do? | 11:10 |
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| HostingGeek | \sh: I have been banned from every channel bob2 has been an OP in for the past few years | 11:10 |
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| Burgundavia | I need an ftp that needs login to test a bug, anybody got one that I can test? | 11:40 |
| \sh | Burgundavia: u need a ftp account with userlogin? | 11:42 |
| \sh | Burgundavia: give me 3 mins | 11:42 |
| ajmitch | sigh, I wish this scanner would just work :) | 11:43 |
| Burgundavia | \sh, cheers | 11:43 |
| Burgundavia | \sh, you running breezy> | 11:43 |
| \sh | burgundavia: on the server is hoary | 11:44 |
| Burgundavia | need breezy nautilus to test this bug | 11:45 |
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| === ajmitch likes those packages where the debian maintainer merged in the changes from ubuntu | ||
| ajmitch | but what should I set it as in bugzilla? | 12:17 |
| jan1 | anybody running the latest xorg (-43) ? | 12:17 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 12:18 |
| jan1 | apt-cache show xbase-clients | 12:18 |
| jan1 | gives me the -42 version | 12:19 |
| \sh | is the latest | 12:19 |
| \sh | correct | 12:19 |
| jan1 | and the package it empty except some docs | 12:19 |
| \sh | it's purpose until daniels fix xorg | 12:19 |
| jan1 | so I gt no startx and other commands | 12:20 |
| jan1 | what gives dpkg -S startx for you? | 12:20 |
| tseng | there is not startx | 12:20 |
| tseng | you arent going to find it. | 12:20 |
| \sh | same applies to the spoon | 12:20 |
| jan1 | obsoleted, or just MIA at the moment? | 12:20 |
| tseng | ^^" until daniels fix xorg | 12:21 |
| \sh | DIA is a better abbrev. | 12:21 |
| jan1 | so how do you guys run X right now? | 12:21 |
| \sh | kdm is just fine | 12:21 |
| \sh | with some tricks | 12:22 |
| jan1 | ok thanks | 12:22 |
| JRe | Anyone know who is Anthony Mercatante ? | 12:23 |
| ajmitch | I just don't shutdown the running X server | 12:23 |
| ajmitch | X forwarding to other hosts has broken now though :) | 12:23 |
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| siretart | JRe: I think that could be Tonio | 12:26 |
| JRe | siretart: okay you're right i think it is =) thanks! | 12:26 |
| ogra | ajmitch, use ssh :) | 12:34 |
| \sh | i have to switch to gnome for some tests | 12:36 |
| \sh | brb | 12:36 |
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| Mez | I prob wont be here for review day tomorrow | 12:58 |
| Mez | so doing some now | 12:58 |
| siretart | Mez: ping | 01:07 |
| Mez | siretart: pong | 01:07 |
| Mez | sup? | 01:07 |
| ajmitch | ogra: as I said, ssh x forwarding didn't work.. :) | 01:07 |
| ogra | oh | 01:07 |
| ajmitch | xauth is missing | 01:07 |
| ajmitch | so I used 'scanimage' to get what I needed | 01:08 |
| ogra | i thougt that was solved... hmm | 01:08 |
| siretart | Mez: I'd like to request wifi-radar to be backported, as soon as it hits breezy (needing only one more review in revu, irrc) | 01:08 |
| siretart | iirc, even | 01:08 |
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| siretart | Mez: would that be possible? | 01:08 |
| === ajmitch ought to check it off in revu.. thought I did ages ago | ||
| Mez | siretart : we can try | 01:08 |
| Mez | though looking at it | 01:08 |
| ogra | ajmitch, fabbione has a single xauth binary on p.u.c, grab that, copy it to /usr/bin and make it executable | 01:08 |
| Mez | IT's only had one person advocate it | 01:09 |
| ajmitch | ogra: ok.. | 01:09 |
| \sh | Mithrandir: ping | 01:18 |
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| Mez | hmm | 01:34 |
| Mez | in REVU someone has | 01:34 |
| Mez | Debian packager: | 01:34 |
| Mez | Copyright 2005 Jean-Remy Falleri <jr.falleri@laposte.net> | 01:34 |
| Mez | in the debian/copyright | 01:34 |
| Mez | I dont think that should be there ... | 01:34 |
| Mez | or is it allowed | 01:35 |
| Mez | it's questionable whether you can copyright the creation of a package or not | 01:35 |
| Mez | as it's done through dh_make | 01:35 |
| JRe | Mez: i took exemple on a debian package | 01:36 |
| Mez | JRe, I'm sure you did, I'm just not sure if it's right | 01:36 |
| === ogra wouldnt mess with existing copyright entrys if they were already in te package | ||
| Mez | ogra: it's a new package | 01:37 |
| ogra | ah | 01:37 |
| Mez | I'm just wondering if it should be there... copyrighting the "package" | 01:37 |
| ajmitch | probably not | 01:37 |
| ogra | Mez, normally the first line in the copyright file tells you about the packager, that should be sufficient | 01:38 |
| Mez | there you go JRe. .. :D | 01:38 |
| ogra | This package was debianized by ... on | 01:38 |
| ogra | Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:54:43 +0200. | 01:38 |
| Mez | other than that the package looks fine | 01:38 |
| JRe | ok 'ill cut out the copyright | 01:39 |
| Mez | :D | 01:39 |
| Mez | and reupload and I'll advocate :D | 01:39 |
| JRe | :) | 01:40 |
| === Mez kills off half of REVU | ||
| Mez | :D | 01:44 |
| Mez | lol | 01:44 |
| Mez | (well archives them :P) | 01:44 |
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| ajmitch | Mez: why so many archived? :) | 01:49 |
| Mez | cause they need work,m and wont get 3 advocates | 01:56 |
| Mez | under siretart's instructions :D | 01:57 |
| SloMo_ | Mez: can you request a gkrellm backport? :) this was asked months ago in the forums and now we finally have the new version in breezy | 01:58 |
| SloMo_ | \sh: pong | 01:58 |
| Mez | SloMo_, i can try | 02:00 |
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| \sh | SloMo_: imms? | 02:01 |
| SloMo_ | \sh: yes... have you looked at it on amd64? ;) | 02:02 |
| \sh | SloMo_: i don't have an reactivated account right now :( | 02:02 |
| SloMo_ | \sh: hm :( and i can't fix it without an amd64 machine... | 02:03 |
| SloMo_ | \sh: btw, you fixed grip on amd64... seems like a similar error ;) maybe X on amd64 is more broken than on other architectures? | 02:03 |
| \sh | no..grip is not fixed | 02:05 |
| ajmitch | time for sleep, night all | 02:05 |
| \sh | libXrender.la issues again...and it should not occure | 02:05 |
| \sh | but only on this arch | 02:06 |
| \sh | trying to fix fbi now | 02:06 |
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| \sh | peter grundstrom? | 03:17 |
| \sh | pete at openfestis.com? | 03:17 |
| \sh | here? | 03:17 |
| \sh | pete: ping | 03:18 |
| \sh | :) | 03:18 |
| Amaranth | idle 3 hours | 03:20 |
| \sh | yeah | 03:21 |
| \sh | hope he's reading bugzilla mails from ubuntu ;) | 03:21 |
| pete | \sh: yes I'm here | 03:23 |
| \sh | pete: the patch for package X ;-) please provide the patch | 03:24 |
| \sh | for gcc4 | 03:24 |
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| \sh | and please build the packages via pbuilder to test...qiv was missing a dpatch build-dep | 03:24 |
| pete | \sh: the gcc patch is there "new merge patch with gcc4.0 fix" | 03:25 |
| \sh | pete: so it's included already...so I didn't catch your comment correctly..sorry for that | 03:25 |
| pete | \sh: the merge-patch for qiv makes it build-depend on dpatch | 03:28 |
| \sh | pete: provide debdiffs ;) | 03:28 |
| pete | \sh: and I do build the packages in pbuilder to test | 03:29 |
| \sh | it's easier for us then :) | 03:29 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 03:39 |
| tritium | Good morning, bddebian | 03:40 |
| bddebian | Heya tritium, how goes it? | 03:40 |
| tritium | Not bad, you? | 03:40 |
| bddebian | \sh: Hey, I swore I put python2.3, dia, tetex-*, etc in that diff. I even had to go back in and hack it manually..??? | 03:41 |
| bddebian | tritium: Fair to midland I suppose | 03:41 |
| tritium | that's a good start, I suppose ;) | 03:41 |
| \sh | bddebian: the patch wasn't really working..dunno why...anyways..the rest was fine | 03:41 |
| bddebian | \sh: No worries. I was getting a little late so who knows.. :-) | 03:42 |
| bddebian | tseng: ping? | 03:42 |
| bddebian | lamont: ping? | 03:42 |
| pete | \sh: the debdiff became identical with my other patch, why didn't that one do? | 03:45 |
| \sh | pete: sorry...I didn't see the debdiff..*grrrbangingmouseonthedesk* | 03:49 |
| \sh | pete: but anyways | 03:50 |
| \sh | * Resynchronise with Debian. * Added dpatch to build-deps * Sponsored for Peter Grundstroem (Closes Ubuntu: #11142) | 03:50 |
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| bddebian | Holy moly, could vlc possibly have any more build-deps??? Sheesh. | 04:04 |
| Amaranth | hahaha | 04:11 |
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| Amaranth | did you sync with sid? | 04:11 |
| bddebian | Amaranth: Me? | 04:11 |
| Amaranth | anyone | 04:11 |
| Amaranth | and what happened to us getting wxwidgets2.6? | 04:11 |
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| bddebian | lamont__: What were you saying last night about ghc6-bootstrap not buidling on gcc4? Is that the one posted on REVU? | 04:24 |
| lamont__ | bddebian: source in the archive... there is no other | 04:24 |
| siretart | bddebian: he meant ghc6 in the archive | 04:24 |
| lamont__ | bddebian: and yes, I meant ghc6, not ghc6-bootstrap | 04:25 |
| bddebian | Ohh, sorry | 04:26 |
| bddebian | We don't have libwxgtk2.5-dev ?? | 04:50 |
| Amaranth | no | 04:57 |
| Amaranth | it got removed just like it did in debian | 04:58 |
| bddebian | But we have libwxgtk2.5.3!!?? | 04:58 |
| === bddebian is confused | ||
| Amaranth | no we don't | 04:58 |
| bddebian | It shows up for me | 04:58 |
| \sh | we don't have | 04:58 |
| \sh | latest package is 2.4 | 04:58 |
| Amaranth | i think array 7 was the last to have it | 04:59 |
| bddebian | Shix, and here I am wasting all this time on VLC.. :'-( | 04:59 |
| \sh | doko: will u include libwxgtk2.6 in breezy? | 04:59 |
| \sh | bddebian: u don't read #ubuntu-devel, right? | 05:00 |
| \sh | bddebian: yesterday I had this problem with xchm..their was a source package with libwxgtk2.5 in the queue in dep-wait..and I uploaded with 2.4 to build... | 05:00 |
| bddebian | \sh: No I don't. SHould I? :-) | 05:01 |
| \sh | bddebian: why not :) | 05:01 |
| doko | \sh: it's proposed | 05:01 |
| bddebian | Because I'm not an ubuntu developer? :-) | 05:02 |
| \sh | bddebian: excuses excuses | 05:03 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: what are you then? MOTUs are as much Ubuntu Developers like those hired. | 05:13 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: and you are walking that path :-) | 05:13 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: I'm not an MOTU :-) | 05:13 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: ... yet | 05:13 |
| \sh | bah..every single time I hear this "I'm not an motu" MOTU is not a status for being a developer at all... | 05:14 |
| bddebian | I know, I didn't say that :-) | 05:15 |
| \sh | < bddebian> Nafallo: I'm not an MOTU :-) | 05:15 |
| \sh | 17:02 < bddebian> Because I'm not an ubuntu developer? :-) | 05:15 |
| bddebian | \sh: Those are factual. I am neither :-) | 05:15 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: there are developers working on Ubuntu that are neither hired, nor MOTUs too. :-) | 05:16 |
| Nafallo | most of those are hopefully struggling to become MOTUs though ;-) | 05:17 |
| bddebian | I am sure that there are. | 05:17 |
| === \sh is no developer ... only a stupid sysadmin | ||
| bddebian | \sh: My point exactly. And I barely consider myself a sysadmin when it comes to *nix platforms ;) | 05:18 |
| Nafallo | \sh: so you haven't really made that kde-torrent thing then? :-) | 05:18 |
| \sh | I would never consider myself a windows admin ,-) | 05:18 |
| \sh | Nafallo: actually...I'm trying to find the time for this goody | 05:19 |
| bddebian | So I may as well not bother with vlc or should I try with libwxgtk2.4 ? | 05:19 |
| \sh | I think in between breezy and breezy+1 | 05:19 |
| \sh | bddebian: yes | 05:19 |
| bddebian | Uhm, yes to which? :-) | 05:19 |
| \sh | libwxgtk2.4 | 05:19 |
| bddebian | OK, thx | 05:19 |
| \sh | I would never say no to "don't bother with vlc" | 05:20 |
| \sh | what did I say now? I need to find the logic | 05:20 |
| Amaranth | users will smite you | 05:20 |
| Nafallo | hmm, OT-question. how many gerbils shall me and my girlie have? ;-) | 05:20 |
| bddebian | Uhhh | 05:20 |
| Amaranth | i tried getting vlc 0.8.2 from sid running with wxwidgets2.6 but vlc's ./configure was being a pest | 05:20 |
| ogra | Nafallo, do you want a vote ? write a wikipage please ;) | 05:20 |
| bddebian | Amaranth: So you are working on this? | 05:21 |
| \sh | gerbils? | 05:21 |
| Amaranth | bddebian: not anymore, no | 05:21 |
| ogra | we can post this in #ubuntu .... to get more opinions... | 05:21 |
| \sh | dict:gerbils | 05:21 |
| bddebian | Amaranth: But you are saying don't try it with 2.4? | 05:21 |
| \sh | !ogra gerbils | 05:21 |
| Amaranth | bddebian: go ahead, i gave up waiting for 2.6 | 05:21 |
| Nafallo | ogra: naah. we just can't decide if we shall buy the one we bought todays brother or not :-). he looked so damn lonely... | 05:21 |
| ogra | \sh, use your imagination | 05:21 |
| Amaranth | yeah, i only tried with 2.6 | 05:21 |
| SloMo_ | Nafallo: what about two then? ;) | 05:21 |
| Nafallo | SloMo_: we got two :-) | 05:21 |
| === bddebian jumps off the cliff aaaaaayyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee | ||
| \sh | ogra: babies | 05:21 |
| Nafallo | SloMo_: we ponders three ;-) | 05:22 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: 2 or 4 trust me. :-) I have 3 ;-P | 05:22 |
| Nafallo | Mithrandir and Simira has 3 now :-) | 05:22 |
| Nafallo | aswell. | 05:22 |
| Nafallo | \sh: naah. look up gerbil instead ;-) | 05:23 |
| Amaranth | 2 is 3 too many | 05:23 |
| SloMo_ | bddebian: yeah... better two pairs than one pair and one loner ;) | 05:23 |
| \sh | lol | 05:23 |
| bddebian | SloMo_: Aye, exactly :-) | 05:23 |
| Nafallo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerbil | 05:24 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 05:24 |
| ogra | \sh, but it could be a baby replacement :) | 05:24 |
| \sh | *click* as I said: babies..make babies | 05:24 |
| \sh | wuestenrennmaeuse <- gerbil | 05:24 |
| \sh | oh god | 05:24 |
| \sh | I don't have even a desert for those mice | 05:24 |
| ogra | Nafallo, how about a kitten... i'll have a handfull soon... my male cat showed us last week that it is not male at all.... | 05:25 |
| \sh | *rotflbtc* | 05:25 |
| SloMo_ | \sh: lol... i'm afraid nafallo hasn't one too... i don't know of any deserts in sweden ;) | 05:25 |
| \sh | ogra: this u can see normally | 05:25 |
| === ogra thinks he should probably see an optician soon | ||
| Nafallo | hehe | 05:26 |
| \sh | ogra: u know..there is a small but noticable difference between a male or female cat ,-) | 05:26 |
| ogra | \sh, yes... the males are the ones on top ;) | 05:27 |
| bddebian | hahaha | 05:27 |
| Nafallo | ogra: you're not laying _on top_ of the cat now, are you? | 05:27 |
| \sh | ogra: u should have known it by heart...if the cat wants to (you know) it comes all the time to a male..even when he's human ;-) | 05:27 |
| ogra | \sh, to many male cats around here... i just havent seen her for some days .... then she came back with her friend and showed us she's no boy :) | 05:28 |
| \sh | totally OT but funny...ogras male cat is a female...but u didn't bought it from a brazilian dealer, right? *lol* | 05:28 |
| ogra | Nafallo, heh, nope | 05:28 |
| === \sh is doing some work... | ||
| ogra | \sh, hmmm... you mean its a brazilian conspiration that cats change their sex ? | 05:29 |
| bddebian | WTF is libpostproc-dev?? | 05:29 |
| \sh | ogra: yes :) | 05:30 |
| \sh | it must be ;) | 05:30 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: a lib with develstuff I would guess :-)? | 05:30 |
| bddebian | WOW, thanks man :-) | 05:30 |
| bddebian | And we don't have it and vlc wants it | 05:30 |
| SloMo_ | bddebian: libpostproc is either a mplayer or a transcode lib ;) | 05:30 |
| === bddebian drops working on vlc | ||
| Nafallo | bddebian: we have it btw | 05:31 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: it's in multiverse | 05:31 |
| \sh | Package: ffmpeg | 05:33 |
| \sh | Binary: libavformat-dev, libavcodec-dev, libpostproc-dev, ffmpeg | 05:33 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: I can't get it | 05:34 |
| \sh | or this one | 05:34 |
| tseng | bddebian: ? | 05:34 |
| \sh | Package: mplayer-libpostproc | 05:34 |
| \sh | Binary: libpostproc0, libpostproc-dev | 05:34 |
| \sh | apt-cache showsrc libpostproc-dev | 05:34 |
| \sh | gives u all alternatives | 05:34 |
| bddebian | Oh shit, I don't have multiverse set back up in my pbuilder.. Grrr | 05:34 |
| \sh | use the one from main pls | 05:34 |
| bddebian | tseng: Did you get my "notes" about mythtv last night | 05:34 |
| bddebian | \sh: Use what from main? | 05:34 |
| tseng | bddebian: eh, using svn isnt really an option | 05:34 |
| tseng | bddebian: or, more of a last option | 05:35 |
| bddebian | tseng: Why? | 05:35 |
| whiprush | tseng: hey. | 05:35 |
| \sh | 17:33 < \sh> Package: ffmpeg | 05:35 |
| \sh | 17:33 < \sh> Binary: libavformat-dev, libavcodec-dev, libpostproc-dev, ffmpeg | 05:35 |
| tseng | because mythtv development isnt that stable | 05:35 |
| tseng | aiui | 05:35 |
| \sh | bddebian: the libpostproc-dev | 05:35 |
| tseng | whiprush: hi | 05:35 |
| whiprush | tseng: novell has a public ifolder that you can get an account on. | 05:35 |
| whiprush | I signed up and it's all working as advertised. | 05:35 |
| tseng | hrm | 05:35 |
| tseng | i dont have time to do all the packaging | 05:36 |
| tseng | its huge | 05:36 |
| bddebian | tseng: mythtv? | 05:36 |
| tseng | ifolder | 05:36 |
| tseng | comeon | 05:36 |
| bddebian | I can't keep up | 05:36 |
| tseng | im in 11 channels | 05:37 |
| tseng | you can keep up with one :) | 05:37 |
| bddebian | Well I have only 10 so you got me there | 05:37 |
| \sh | np: The Pretenders - Ill Stand by You (1:10 / 0:00) | 05:38 |
| bddebian | Man and WOman or whatever the title is, is the best Pretenders song | 05:39 |
| \sh | is monotone a mono app?? | 05:44 |
| tseng | no | 05:45 |
| tseng | its a RCS | 05:45 |
| \sh | good ;) | 05:46 |
| \sh | bah..it's using libboost *shrugs* | 05:46 |
| tseng | hey | 05:46 |
| tseng | i transitioned liboost in hoary | 05:46 |
| tseng | *shudder* | 05:46 |
| \sh | I transed it to gcc4 | 05:47 |
| \sh | or better I patched it to work with gcc4 | 05:47 |
| \sh | and now...monotone throws errors...4.3MB of raw source | 05:47 |
| \sh | lets see what I can do | 05:49 |
| whiprush | tseng: would you have time to review it you think? | 05:50 |
| SloMo_ | hmm, finally merged openscenegraph ;) really disturbing when the package needs half an hour to compile... | 05:51 |
| tseng | whiprush: review what? | 05:51 |
| whiprush | ifolder, if I were to package it up? | 05:51 |
| whiprush | for correctness I mean. | 05:51 |
| tseng | ifolder garbage parts 1-32? | 05:51 |
| whiprush | heh | 05:51 |
| tseng | ok | 05:51 |
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| SloMo_ | whiprush: i can also review it for you ;) | 05:51 |
| tseng | slomo is good | 05:51 |
| whiprush | okey | 05:51 |
| tseng | where is my policy | 05:52 |
| tseng | http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/cli-policy/index.html | 05:52 |
| tseng | you need this. | 05:52 |
| whiprush | okey | 05:53 |
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| tseng | i am doing evil stuff at work | 05:53 |
| tseng | its very draining | 05:53 |
| bddebian | Probably not as Evil as I :-) | 05:53 |
| tseng | ever hacked credit card systems? | 05:54 |
| bddebian | Ohh, not quite THAT evil :-) | 05:54 |
| whiprush | my best friend works at a credit card processing firm | 05:54 |
| tseng | whiprush: he's me | 05:54 |
| whiprush | I feel your pain then | 05:55 |
| tseng | bddebian: hm, i work for the company | 05:55 |
| tseng | its not evil in that scense | 05:55 |
| tseng | we do fake requests to verify things are working | 05:55 |
| bddebian | Cool | 05:55 |
| tseng | the systems are very archaic | 05:55 |
| the--dud | hi folks | 05:55 |
| bddebian | COBOL on VMS? ;-) | 05:55 |
| bddebian | Hello the--dud | 05:56 |
| tseng | eh | 05:56 |
| tseng | you dialup to it | 05:56 |
| bddebian | Ohh | 05:56 |
| the--dud | I don't suppose any MOTU guy wanna 'adopt' my http://nix-dev.dudcore.net/CurrProjects/NetselectAptUbuntu | 05:56 |
| tseng | and send a string of characters | 05:56 |
| the--dud | ? | 05:56 |
| tseng | every vendor has their own spec | 05:56 |
| Amaranth | tseng: I was trying to get one of those stupid machines to work at a restaurant once. | 05:57 |
| the--dud | *_* | 05:57 |
| Amaranth | tseng: No one realized they couldn't be on that phone line talking if they wanted to CC machine to work. :) | 05:57 |
| the--dud | noone? | 06:00 |
| \sh | the--dud: package it..upload it to revu | 06:01 |
| the--dud | hrm... thanks | 06:01 |
| the--dud | isnt there a packet guide somewhere on the wiki? | 06:02 |
| the--dud | package even | 06:02 |
| comadreja | could somebody help me with this ? http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=158 | 06:02 |
| \sh | the--dud: wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources | 06:02 |
| SloMo_ | comadreja: sure... what is the problem with that package? (btw, why is there a *.diff with 0 bytes and no real diff?) | 06:03 |
| comadreja | SloMo_ : it's new | 06:03 |
| comadreja | SloMo_ : I packaged it, the point is, the original sources include a shared library already compiled | 06:04 |
| comadreja | SloMo_ : That's why I made it architecture dependent | 06:04 |
| SloMo_ | comadreja: hm, where does this shared library come from? | 06:05 |
| comadreja | SloMo_ : also I got a question, because the program has to be ran from inside the program directory, so I created a samll script, but didn't put the script in /usr/bin | 06:05 |
| === \sh should go to bed at least 1h | ||
| comadreja | \sh have some rest | 06:06 |
| comadreja | SloMo_ : I don't know | 06:06 |
| SloMo_ | comadreja: can you contact the upstream author about that library and why he don't include the sources for it? | 06:06 |
| SloMo_ | comadreja: btw... pytrayicon.so sound like something usefull... maybe it is already in another package? | 06:07 |
| comadreja | SloMo_ : I did, but he didn't answer | 06:07 |
| comadreja | SloMo_ : package straw also has that library | 06:08 |
| \sh | comadreja: straw? | 06:08 |
| SloMo_ | comadreja: with sources? | 06:08 |
| \sh | shermann@shermann-laptop:~$ apt-file search pytrayicon.so | 06:08 |
| \sh | straw: usr/lib/straw/straw/pytrayicon.so | 06:08 |
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| the--dud | ls | 06:09 |
| \sh | but straw is not arch dep or? | 06:09 |
| SloMo_ | \sh: yeah... straw has the sources for this library included... | 06:10 |
| SloMo_ | it's just a part of libegg it seems | 06:10 |
| bddebian | doko: I "fixed" python-slang and should be ready to upload, sorry | 06:10 |
| \sh | SloMo_: so let him use this.. | 06:11 |
| comadreja | so, should I package pytrayicon ? | 06:12 |
| SloMo_ | comadreja: another question... why is this installed in /var/lib? seems wrong for me | 06:12 |
| \sh | comadreja: include it in your package | 06:12 |
| SloMo_ | comadreja: nope... included it | 06:12 |
| \sh | completly | 06:12 |
| comadreja | but then: should I make it architecture dependent ? | 06:13 |
| \sh | no...take the source from straw | 06:13 |
| comadreja | the reason about /var/lib is because the program needs to be completely in one directory | 06:13 |
| SloMo_ | comadreja: why not /usr/lib/gmail-notify or something? | 06:14 |
| bddebian | tseng: Please don't get mad at me but if updating mythtv from svn helps with gcc4 issues, why is it a bad thing? Doesn't it save work? | 06:14 |
| comadreja | SloMo_ : I used debian's procedure... usually they put it in /var/lib | 06:14 |
| comadreja | SloMo_ : because, it's neither a library | 06:14 |
| SloMo_ | comadreja: they do? ok, nevermind :) i just know from the mono stuff that they put everything in /usr/lib/pkgname and a wrapper script in /usr/bin | 06:15 |
| comadreja | SloMo_ : really ? I used to see this way, I have no problem on moving it | 06:15 |
| comadreja | point is that is really python code | 06:16 |
| comadreja | so I treated it like web scripts | 06:16 |
| SloMo_ | hmm, but it is no webscript... smeg is also python and it's stuff is in /usr/lib/smeg | 06:16 |
| Amaranth | that's changing | 06:17 |
| comadreja | then I'll put it /usr/lib, as I said, it's not a problem at all | 06:17 |
| SloMo_ | Amaranth: where will it move to? | 06:17 |
| comadreja | btw, is there any way to download a package from revu without having to download it's parts ? | 06:17 |
| Amaranth | /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Smeg/ | 06:18 |
| siretart | comadreja: not yet | 06:19 |
| Amaranth | it makes things a lot easier on me having it there | 06:19 |
| Amaranth | plus my MenuHandler is becoming more usable for normal folks | 06:19 |
| Amaranth | err, for other apps | 06:19 |
| SloMo_ | comadreja: and can you make this a non-native package? e.g. with an gmail-notify_1.6.orig.tar.gz and an corresponding diff.gz ;) it makes updates just to the packaging part easier | 06:19 |
| comadreja | SloMo_ : sure, I used dh_make | 06:21 |
| the--dud | erm, dh_make has a choice of binary, library, and modules | 06:21 |
| the--dud | how about non-compiled scripts? :/ | 06:21 |
| siretart | the--dud: you want to package a single simple shellskript? | 06:21 |
| the--dud | yeah >_< | 06:22 |
| siretart | what kind of skript? is it really worth a package? | 06:22 |
| the--dud | I can see netselect-apt is, and thats even simpler than what I plan to pack, plus its 95% useless on ubuntu :p | 06:22 |
| comadreja | SloMo_ : pytray icon has lots of sources, maybe I should just create a dependency on straw (?) | 06:23 |
| SloMo_ | comadreja: ok, fine :) but i would retry to talk with the upstream author regarding pytrayicon.so | 06:23 |
| siretart | the--dud: hm. I never heard about netselect-apt. can't u take that package as template? | 06:24 |
| the--dud | I suppose... I'll have a look, thanks | 06:24 |
| SloMo_ | comadreja: no... that way everybody who wants to use gmail-notify has to install straw even when they don't use it | 06:24 |
| comadreja | SloMo_ : cool, now... how do I make it a non-native package ? I mean, is there a tool ? or I just have to rename some files ? | 06:24 |
| SloMo_ | comadreja: put the upstream tarball in the parent directory and name it gmail-notify_1.6.orig.tar.gz and the next time you do dpkg-buildpackage you will get just the diff against this tarball | 06:25 |
| Amaranth | pytrayicon.so? wtf | 06:25 |
| Amaranth | g-p-e has trayicon bindings | 06:26 |
| comadreja | SloMo_ :thanks | 06:26 |
| comadreja | Amaranth : gmail-notify uses that... | 06:26 |
| comadreja | I'm just the messenger :) | 06:26 |
| SloMo_ | comadreja: tell upstream about gnome-python-extras ;) | 06:27 |
| comadreja | SloMo_ : ok | 06:28 |
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| SloMo_ | comadreja: otherwise the package seems ok to me... hm, but maybe you can have a look at cdbs? this will make maintaining the debian/rules a bit easier | 06:37 |
| comadreja | I usually use dpatch , is it for the same thing right ? | 06:38 |
| SloMo_ | nope... it takes away some common rules which you then have to include... for example the whole binary-arch rule you currently have there could be ommited | 06:40 |
| SloMo_ | comadreja: https://perso.duckcorp.org/duck/cdbs-doc/cdbs-doc.xhtml | 06:40 |
| SloMo_ | comadreja: and maybe this as an example debian/rules file ;) http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/incoming/dirac-0507252350/dirac-0.5.2/debian/rules | 06:40 |
| === bddebian doesn't like the CDBS docs on Duckcorp | ||
| SloMo_ | bddebian: i haven't found better ones yet... do you know some? ;) | 06:42 |
| bddebian | SloMo_: No, so please write one. ;-P | 06:42 |
| comadreja | I'll have fun, then :) | 06:43 |
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| SloMo_ | bddebian: no, better not... i don't want to torment more people the necessary with my english ;) | 06:43 |
| bddebian | SloMo_: Bah, your English is great | 06:44 |
| bddebian | btw "more people than necessary" ;-P | 06:44 |
| === bddebian hides | ||
| SloMo_ | bddebian: hehe thanks ;) what exactly don't you like in that cdbs docs? | 06:45 |
| bddebian | I think they are less than helpful | 06:45 |
| bddebian | They don't really tell you anything | 06:45 |
| Nafallo | we got 3 gerbils now :-) | 06:46 |
| SloMo_ | bddebian: hmm... they included everything i needed to get used to cdbs ;) | 06:47 |
| bddebian | SloMo_: Well remember, I'm kinda st00pid :) | 06:47 |
| SloMo_ | bddebian: you're not :P but when you have some cdbs questions just ask me ;) | 06:48 |
| bddebian | OK, thx | 06:48 |
| SloMo_ | oh no... patching time :/ gpsd is using the old dbus api... | 06:50 |
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| SloMo_ | anybody here who knows something about the dbus C api? | 07:57 |
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| diamond | Mez: hi. you're involved in the ubuntu backports effort, yes? | 08:04 |
| Mez | yes | 08:07 |
| diamond | Mez: actually, have an email almost finished, i'll just send it -) | 08:07 |
| diamond | Mez: sent. | 08:08 |
| SloMo_ | Mez: are we allowed to backport mono stuff? | 08:09 |
| Mez | SloMo_, not really | 08:09 |
| Mez | diamond, sent to where? | 08:09 |
| diamond | Mez: martin @ sf.net | 08:10 |
| tseng | Mez: SloMo_ i would like to have a proper backport on the new system if someone consults me first | 08:10 |
| Mez | of what new system? | 08:10 |
| tseng | i was pretty steamed after last time | 08:10 |
| tseng | backports from buildd | 08:11 |
| tseng | not random people's pcs | 08:11 |
| Mez | lol :DF | 08:11 |
| Mez | what are you wanting to be consulted on/ | 08:11 |
| tseng | what packages to backport for starters | 08:11 |
| Mez | tseng, | 08:12 |
| tseng | last time it was a very small portion of a large interrelated set | 08:12 |
| Mez | that's for backporters to do... and what makes you like ... the "authority" on what to backport | 08:12 |
| Mez | or are you on about mono stuff? | 08:12 |
| tseng | because it was broken | 08:12 |
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| tseng | mono stuff | 08:12 |
| Mez | ah, ok | 08:12 |
| tseng | i dont want to keep being an ass | 08:12 |
| Mez | mono sutff in unofficial backports were the suck | 08:13 |
| tseng | i just hear about it several times a day | 08:13 |
| Mez | ...? | 08:13 |
| ogra | Mez, tseng is our mono god | 08:13 |
| tseng | i watch most mono channels | 08:13 |
| Mez | yeah, I know | 08:13 |
| Mez | and mono backports = the suck | 08:13 |
| Mez | :d | 08:13 |
| tseng | people want ubuntu + mono | 08:13 |
| Mez | lol | 08:13 |
| tseng | they got broken stuff | 08:14 |
| tseng | ive beaten this to death once before | 08:14 |
| Mez | yeah, but well... we gotta backport stuff propley | 08:14 |
| tseng | yes, which would be a team effort :) | 08:14 |
| tseng | what ive been trying to say | 08:14 |
| Mez | lol :D | 08:14 |
| slomo | tseng: hehe ok... when we really want to backport mono again we'll work together with you, ok? ;) | 08:15 |
| Mez | hehhehehehe | 08:15 |
| tseng | please | 08:15 |
| slomo | Mez: i didn't mean mono itself but muine for example ;) | 08:15 |
| tseng | no thats my point exactly | 08:15 |
| tseng | you cant just backport muine | 08:15 |
| tseng | it will be exactly the same thing | 08:15 |
| slomo | ok | 08:16 |
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| Mez | grr | 08:16 |
| Mez | thing is, the backports only works on thigns against main | 08:16 |
| Mez | so say for example, mono-mcs | 08:16 |
| tseng | everything changed between hoary + breezy | 08:16 |
| Mez | it wont compile unless that's backported too | 08:16 |
| Mez | and well, we dont want that do we | 08:16 |
| tseng | then ill do it myself | 08:17 |
| siretart | Mez: if it is done, it really should be tested with a seperated, private repository. | 08:17 |
| tseng | oh wow, you already started this? | 08:18 |
| tseng | < #-dev | 08:18 |
| Mez | siretart - I agree | 08:18 |
| Mez | and tseng - yeah - some things are like - already started | 08:18 |
| tseng | dude. | 08:18 |
| Mez | I didnt know there was mono stuff in there, cause I didnt know what stuff was mono just from pacakge names | 08:18 |
| Mez | I'm just using that as an example | 08:18 |
| Mez | Needs-Build is when it's in the queue to be built - yes? | 08:20 |
| slomo | Mez: have you already requested removal of gtk-sharp2-unstable at elmo? | 08:20 |
| Mez | slomo - I've tried :D but no response | 08:20 |
| Mez | btw, cli-common backported nicely | 08:21 |
| tseng | its just perl scripts. | 08:21 |
| tseng | dh_clideps et all | 08:21 |
| slomo | hehe... Mez, next time ask me and i'll tell you whether it's mono or not ;) | 08:21 |
| Mez | slomo - I just sent a list I already knew about | 08:21 |
| tseng | we can backport mono fine | 08:22 |
| tseng | if you walk up the dependency tree | 08:22 |
| Mez | ...? | 08:22 |
| tseng | and not just throw random things at the wall and hope they stick | 08:22 |
| Mez | tseng - wanna move this to mailing list? | 08:22 |
| tseng | a backports list? | 08:22 |
| Mez | It'll help things alotif we have you on board | 08:22 |
| tseng | i am on board | 08:23 |
| Mez | yeah, ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com | 08:23 |
| tseng | i just get unrationally upset if you start shipping broken stuff | 08:23 |
| bddebian | Mez: You got accepted as MOTU right? | 08:23 |
| Mez | bddebian, yeah | 08:23 |
| bddebian | OK, cool. COngrats :-) | 08:23 |
| Mez | tseng, well everythings built from breezy | 08:23 |
| tseng | thats fine, we need to do it in order | 08:23 |
| Mez | fair enough tseng | 08:24 |
| Mez | you need to tell me where to start :D | 08:24 |
| tseng | cli-common and mono | 08:24 |
| Mez | cli-common = dont already | 08:24 |
| Mez | done * | 08:25 |
| tseng | what do i send to the list | 08:25 |
| tseng | to subscribe | 08:25 |
| Mez | sign up @ http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports | 08:25 |
| tseng | thanks | 08:25 |
| slomo | ok, so now we're backporting mono with tseng's help? fine ;) | 08:26 |
| Mez | :D | 08:26 |
| tseng | yay | 08:26 |
| ogra | wow, looks like hoary users wil get nice mono apps :) great | 08:28 |
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| Mez | tseng: did you get the email on the list regarding mono | 08:40 |
| tseng | no but i read it on archive | 08:43 |
| tseng | and "replied" | 08:43 |
| Mez | lol | 08:43 |
| tseng | it wont show up as a real reply obviously | 08:43 |
| tseng | but i sent it | 08:43 |
| Mez | lol | 08:44 |
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| herve | hello! | 08:44 |
| Mez | lo | 08:44 |
| herve | are Debian servers down? I don't follow the lists anymore | 08:46 |
| bddebian | Heya herve | 08:53 |
| jamessan|work | herve: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/07/msg00013.html | 08:54 |
| herve | thanks jamessan|work | 08:55 |
| slomo | hmm... sear has funny build-depends... already found 3 libraries which need a rebuild because of cxxtransition ;) | 09:04 |
| bddebian | Fun :-) | 09:04 |
| bddebian | Uhm, is there a good reason for this: libmetakit2.4.9.3-2.4.9.3 ?? | 09:08 |
| slomo | is someone with upload rights here who wants to upload a package which needed cxxtransition? | 09:11 |
| herve | yes | 09:15 |
| Lathiat | time to install ubuntu on a second partition for breezy work | 09:16 |
| Lathiat | and can do so with my shiny new hoary cds :) | 09:16 |
| slomo | herve: do you want the debdiff via mail? | 09:16 |
| Lathiat | actually, is there a working breezy install cd yet? | 09:16 |
| herve | slomo, debdiff + your source package | 09:16 |
| herve | either mail or download | 09:17 |
| bddebian | OK, libmetakit apears b0rked. THe dropped patches make changes for python2.3 and the merged source has a combination of old stuff and python-2.4.. ??? :-( | 09:22 |
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| bddebian | s/taling/talking/ | 09:24 |
| herve | bddebian, I had that too | 09:26 |
| herve | I prefered to download the new debian package and transition it again to Python 2.4 | 09:26 |
| herve | following what was done at the time of the ubuntu package | 09:27 |
| slomo | hehe... and i had a package where MoM has killed the configure script ;) | 09:28 |
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| \sh | argl | 09:37 |
| \sh | too late | 09:37 |
| herve | yo \sh | 09:37 |
| \sh | I just slept 1 1/2 hours more then expected | 09:37 |
| herve | no you don't | 09:38 |
| herve | you need it | 09:38 |
| \sh | hehe :) if I'm a sarcastic person then I would say now: "Yes MoM" :) | 09:39 |
| herve | :-) | 09:40 |
| slomo | \sh: i've recently done the same mistake as you with libatlas-cpp-0.5 ;) damn dh_makeshlibs ;) | 09:42 |
| \sh | slomo: exactly a b*tch this | 09:42 |
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| \sh | who had the last time "torcs"? | 09:47 |
| slomo | \sh: how can i test if makeshlibs was called correctly? | 09:50 |
| \sh | slomo: u don't see any error message in the end of the pbuilder ran, like "can't find lib blablubb.." | 09:51 |
| slomo | \sh: ok, then it will be fine now... | 09:52 |
| slomo | herve: you've mail again ;) | 09:53 |
| herve | slomo, uploaded | 10:01 |
| slomo | thanks... and sorry for the first one | 10:02 |
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| herve | don't worry, we all make mistakes | 10:04 |
| \sh | grmpf | 10:05 |
| \sh | torcs is broken | 10:05 |
| herve | one day I uploaded a package with dpatch patches | 10:05 |
| \sh | or i'M too stupid to see the forrest | 10:05 |
| herve | but I forgot to add dpatch to the dependencies :-) | 10:05 |
| herve | last time I heard about torcs, there was the data package but not the game package itself | 10:05 |
| \sh | apokalypse now | 10:10 |
| herve | you're uploading walkyries to ubuntu? :-) | 10:11 |
| ajmitch | morning | 10:22 |
| bddebian | Morning ajmitch | 10:28 |
| herve | hello ajmitch | 10:28 |
| Amaranth | "I assume GDM isn't really doing well with my keyboard now as it thinks G is enter" | 10:29 |
| Lathiat | Amaranth: heh | 10:29 |
| Amaranth | err, wrong channel | 10:29 |
| Amaranth | meant to do it in -devel | 10:30 |
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| \sh | slomo: ping | 10:52 |
| slomo | \sh: pong | 10:52 |
| \sh | slomo: send me the imms patch to test | 10:52 |
| Riddell | how does upstream version freeze affect universe? | 10:54 |
| slomo | \sh: i have no patch atm ;) at least no patch that works on i386... but can you test whether it was just a broken buildd? | 10:55 |
| bddebian | Riddell: We are supposed to have our merges done :-) | 10:55 |
| ogra | Riddell, applies there too, but more loosely | 10:55 |
| bddebian | Riddell: I believe it also means we can't just yank from Debian anymore | 10:55 |
| \sh | slomo: will test it now :) | 10:55 |
| bddebian | But I don't know much | 10:55 |
| siretart | Riddell: we try to not destabilize universe anymore | 10:56 |
| slomo | \sh: normally it has to build as pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0 takes care of it... otherwise -lX11 will fix this... | 10:56 |
| siretart | hm. is evolution in hoary supposed to be able to store its calendar files on an webdav enabled apache? | 10:57 |
| slomo | siretart: no idea... but when you get it working tell me how ;) | 10:58 |
| bddebian | hehe | 10:58 |
| siretart | hehe | 10:58 |
| \sh | slomo: i will test it just now | 10:58 |
| Riddell | so if review day is tomorrow how does that work with no new upstreams? | 10:59 |
| herve | nogth all | 10:59 |
| bddebian | Riddell: All the packages on REVU I think | 11:00 |
| ogra | Riddell, wats in revu already is ok... | 11:00 |
| bddebian | Maybe someone will actually look at my stuff.. ;-) | 11:01 |
| ogra | Riddell, dholbach and i can make exeptions from UVF as well as we can delegate... siretart, ajmitch and \sh were delegates... if you want you can be one too | 11:01 |
| ogra | its just to have a extra instance that checks ... | 11:02 |
| ogra | bt Kamion and mdz stand on UVF for universe too, even if we can handle it very loosely | 11:03 |
| ogra | s/bt/but | 11:03 |
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| bddebian | What does this need: | 11:05 |
| bddebian | checking for a Motif >= 1002 compatible API... no | 11:05 |
| bddebian | configure: error: M*tif has not been found | 11:05 |
| bddebian | make: *** [config.status] Error 1 | 11:05 |
| bddebian | libmotif? | 11:05 |
| slomo | bddebian: lesstiff probably | 11:05 |
| bddebian | Hmm | 11:05 |
| ogra | libmotif-dev ? | 11:05 |
| bddebian | lesstif2-dev is already installed | 11:06 |
| slomo | ok, then test libmotif-dev ;) | 11:06 |
| bddebian | There is not libmotif-dev that I can see | 11:06 |
| slomo | http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/libmotif-dev | 11:06 |
| bddebian | However the following packages replace it: | 11:07 |
| bddebian | lesstif2-dev lesstif-dev | 11:07 |
| bddebian | E: Package libmotif-dev has no installation candidate | 11:07 |
| \sh | bddebian: WRITE CHANGELOGS, PROVIDE DEBDIFFS | 11:07 |
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| slomo | bddebian: hm... the maybe the configure script is broken | 11:07 |
| \sh | bddebian: I won't upload any package of you anymore without debdiffs | 11:08 |
| \sh | or written changelogs with your name inside | 11:08 |
| bddebian | \sh: Everyone keeps telling me NOT to change the changelogs | 11:08 |
| bddebian | \sh: And debdiff is broken | 11:08 |
| \sh | bddebian: it's not :) | 11:08 |
| bddebian | Since when? | 11:08 |
| \sh | since I'm working with it | 11:08 |
| \sh | and diff -ur is working as well ;) | 11:08 |
| bddebian | I tried to upgrade this morning and didn't get a new one :-) | 11:08 |
| bddebian | I usually diff -Nurp if I change anything, what doesn't have one? | 11:09 |
| \sh | actually do a `dch -a` | 11:09 |
| \sh | and add your comments... | 11:09 |
| \sh | bddebian: and I'm not serious right now , for not uploading :) | 11:10 |
| \sh | bddebian: I appreciate your work :) but u have to go one level higher now | 11:10 |
| bddebian | I'm happy to do whatever is necessary if I can get a fscking consistent answer | 11:10 |
| \sh | bddebian: I'm forced by higher forces to tell you that...actually you have 99.999 points..changelogs with your name and email address would be +1 and you receive more fame and a new life | 11:11 |
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| bddebian | \sh: OK. | 11:12 |
| \sh | bddebian: smile :) | 11:13 |
| bddebian | :-) | 11:13 |
| tritium | bddebian, I noticed you left me as maintainer for python-pyrtf. Why don't you change that to your name? | 11:17 |
| \sh | slomo: can we work together? | 11:17 |
| bddebian | tritium: Because you are da man. :-) | 11:17 |
| bddebian | WTF is -lxm ?? | 11:17 |
| ajmitch | how is everyone this morning? :) | 11:18 |
| bddebian | Err -lXm even | 11:18 |
| tritium | bddebian, no dude, you are | 11:18 |
| tritium | good afternoon, ajmitch :) | 11:18 |
| Riddell | ogra: do I get to be a delegate then? | 11:19 |
| ogra | sure... | 11:19 |
| tritium | bddebian, Motif library | 11:19 |
| Riddell | woo | 11:20 |
| ogra | heh | 11:20 |
| tseng | ajmitch: meh | 11:20 |
| tseng | ajmitch: ever heard of a cisco content switch server? | 11:21 |
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| ajmitch | tseng: can't say I have, layer 7 switch? | 11:24 |
| tseng | sortof | 11:24 |
| tseng | its a load balancing appliance | 11:24 |
| ajmitch | I've heard of some that do caching & the like | 11:24 |
| tseng | i spent all day staring at its mib | 11:24 |
| tseng | ajmitch: thats a second box | 11:24 |
| tseng | Cisco Content Engine is a caching proxy type | 11:25 |
| ajmitch | netflow? | 11:25 |
| ajmitch | ah, content engine | 11:25 |
| tseng | blargh netflow is an entirely other bit | 11:25 |
| tseng | RMON | 11:25 |
| tseng | or related | 11:25 |
| ajmitch | yeah, I haven't dealt much with cisco stuff | 11:25 |
| tseng | tommorow will be even more painful | 11:25 |
| ajmitch | all small companies around here that are licky to have a DSL modem | 11:25 |
| tseng | round table meeting with our CA support staff | 11:26 |
| ajmitch | s/licky/lucky/ | 11:26 |
| tseng | i am playing the role of axe murderer for the blue team | 11:26 |
| tseng | heads will roll. | 11:26 |
| \sh | grrrr | 11:27 |
| \sh | I don't understand this | 11:27 |
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| bddebian | tritium: What motif library? Should be lesstiff2-dev? | 11:29 |
| Lathiat | ajmitch: :) | 11:30 |
| tritium | libXm.so.2 is a Motif lib, which lesstif2 is an implementation of | 11:30 |
| bddebian | Then why the hell can't it find it?? :-( | 11:31 |
| \sh | shit | 11:31 |
| \sh | sorry.. | 11:31 |
| \sh | have to go to the office...thunderstorm crashed some streams | 11:32 |
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| \sh | so cu later this night rushing into office for an unexpected nightshift | 11:35 |
| bddebian | Have fun :-) | 11:35 |
| \sh | will have...believe me :( | 11:36 |
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| slomo | bddebian: which revu-upload do you want to get reviewed first? | 11:49 |
| bddebian | slomo: I'm not even sure if fpc is worth it. Someone told me that it's in the archive now | 11:49 |
| slomo | yes it's in the archive | 11:50 |
| slomo | ah | 11:50 |
| slomo | it isn't ;) | 11:50 |
| slomo | but look at the comment | 11:50 |
| bddebian | slomo: What comment? | 11:51 |
| slomo | please tell elmo (James Troup) to sync it from debian if it fixes something for us. Thanks. :) | 11:51 |
| bddebian | That's the comment? | 11:51 |
| slomo | yes | 11:52 |
| bddebian | OK ogra/tritium/sh\ / whoever. If there are no dropped patches and it builds clean do you still want a changelog entry? | 11:52 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 11:53 |
| bddebian | Heya sistpoty | 11:53 |
| slomo | bddebian: hmm... 2.0.0-2 is already in breezy ;) and your's is -1 | 11:53 |
| crimsun | if it's just a clean one from mom, it's not necessary to modify the mom changelog | 11:53 |
| slomo | hi sistpoty | 11:53 |
| bddebian | slomo: There you go slomo. Delete it :-) | 11:53 |
| bddebian | crimsun: OK thx. I'm holding you to that when \sh yells at me again :-) | 11:53 |
| slomo | lol ok | 11:53 |
| ajmitch | hello Mez, sistpoty | 11:54 |
| Mez | hey | 11:54 |
| tseng | hi Mez | 11:54 |
| tritium | dude, you're asking a guy who thought MOM was "master of main"... | 11:54 |
| tseng | note to all, i probably wont do much hard work here this week | 11:54 |
| tseng | work is very tiresome | 11:54 |
| bddebian | tritium: :-) | 11:55 |
| tritium | bddebian, so I'm not the guy to ask until I get back up to speed :) | 11:55 |
| bddebian | tseng: You mean you ever do? | 11:55 |
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| Mez | tseng: have you treid building mono from breezy on hoary? | 11:55 |
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| tseng | Mez: i have | 11:55 |
| Mez | and it works? | 11:55 |
| tseng | a few months ago i built the mono-live cd | 11:55 |
| tseng | which we are shipping to thousands of people | 11:56 |
| tseng | id assume it works. | 11:56 |
| Mez | lol, and thats on hoary with the current breezy mono version | 11:56 |
| slomo | tseng: if it's ok with you i can take care of tomboy and monodevelop next week... boo is synced and tomboy doesn't compile atm | 11:56 |
| tseng | i built one version back iirc | 11:56 |
| tseng | slomo: you can take care of anything you want, i trust your work | 11:56 |
| tseng | motu doesnt have a maintainer lock | 11:57 |
| tseng | i just get my panties in a bunch about backports | 11:57 |
| tseng | (we're working it out :) | 11:57 |
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| slomo | tseng: sure but both package bugreports are assigned to you ;) | 11:57 |
| crimsun | tritium: thankfully it's fairly trivial to get back up to speed :) | 11:58 |
| slomo | bddebian: something else you want to get reviewed ;) | 11:58 |
| tseng | slomo: indeed. | 11:58 |
| tseng | slomo: tomboy just needs his build-deps fixed | 11:58 |
| tseng | monodevelop needs boo in main | 11:58 |
| tseng | or boo removed | 11:58 |
| tseng | you cant build dep from main -> universe | 11:58 |
| tritium | crimsun, yes, hopefully so. | 11:58 |
| bddebian | slomo: I guess just python-pyrtf :-) | 11:59 |
| bddebian | Wasn't tomboy on MOTUToMerge also? | 11:59 |
| slomo | tseng: tomboy also needs a patch, otherwise it fails compiling the c stuff | 11:59 |
| crimsun | tritium: if you need pointers, ping me. The REPORT is helpful. | 11:59 |
| tseng | bddebian: i synced it | 11:59 |
| bddebian | Ah | 11:59 |
| tseng | slomo: not on debian it doesnt | 11:59 |
| tseng | but sure | 11:59 |
| slomo | tseng: why remove boo from monodevelop when it's not in main? | 12:00 |
| tseng | hm? | 12:00 |
| tritium | crimsun, thanks, I will. So you all know, I did finish the Ph.D., but tomorrow the packers/movers come, and we will be moving back to New Mexico. So I will still have some downtime. | 12:00 |
| tseng | monodevelop is in main | 12:00 |
| tseng | boo is not | 12:00 |
| tseng | you cant have that build-dep | 12:00 |
| slomo | tseng: oh ok... :( well boo isn't in main yet :( | 12:00 |
| tseng | right | 12:00 |
| crimsun | tritium: congrats! :) | 12:00 |
| bddebian | tritium: WHAT?? :-) | 12:00 |
| tseng | slomo: need to fix one of the two cases | 12:00 |
| tritium | crimsun, thanks :) | 12:00 |
| bddebian | tritium: Congrats again btw :-) | 12:00 |
| tritium | bddebian, thank you too :) | 12:01 |
| slomo | tseng: ok, what must i do to get boo into main? ;) | 12:01 |
| sistpoty | congrats, tritium ! | 12:01 |
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