[12:01] <\sh> SloMo_: no...imms [12:02] ok, thanks... i'll look at it now [12:05] hmm, what would i give now for a ssh login on some amd64 machine :( is someone on amd64 here who has some time to test a few changes to this package? [12:09] SloMo_: eris built on all 4 architectures [12:10] <\sh> amd64 machine? yes there was something [12:10] <\sh> Mithrandir: ping u got my mail? :) [12:10] dholbach: yeah this was why i asked ;) === ajmitch has a powerpc box to build on now, if he has the patience :) [12:11] I don't think a 400MHz G3 is going to fly [12:14] \sh: can you look at imms then? ;) btw, what are you asking Mithrandir to do for you? [12:15] <\sh> SloMo_: tomorrow morning as my first duty :) [12:18] <\sh> ok...time for me to go to bed.. [12:18] <\sh> tomorrow more :) [12:18] ok, gn8 \sh :) [12:18] <\sh> and thx again to all of you :) [12:21] bye sh :) [12:24] hmm... now i've something to upload and have to wait for my key to be added ;) does someone wants to upload it for me? === crimsun [~crimsun@rchp4.rochester.ibm.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] hey crimsun [12:28] ogra: ping [12:28] hey dholbach [12:29] Nafallo, ? [12:29] ogra: didn't you fix dput to default to ubuntu? making some of the stuff on wiki.u.c/Uploads irrelevant? :-) [12:29] Nafallo, yep [12:30] ogra: nice. I'm glad I have some sort of memory ;-) [12:30] Nafallo, but you never know if someone misses the merge stuff and just syncs, so dont delete it completely [12:30] i.e. overrides my changes to dput and pulls the plain debian version in [12:30] but feel free to correct the page ;) [12:31] ogra: naah, I'm just to lazy to edit things. so I probably do not edit the wiki either ;-) [12:32] :) [12:33] I will probably be to most lazy MOTU yet ;-) [12:33] Nafallo: that's a tough competition :/ [12:33] Nafallo: get in line! ;) [12:33] dholbach: well, you got IRL-stuff going on ;-) [12:33] ajmitch: and you got debian :-P === ajmitch is one of the laziest.. [12:34] I got Ubuntu :-) [12:34] ajmitch: not at all [12:34] and porn-torrents ;-) === DanielN is now known as DanielN`aw [12:35] yay, new server for work might be debian [12:35] ajmitch: we have quite a lot of motus on the list that never did more than 1-2 uploads themselves [12:35] for a few weeks I didn't do any === dholbach adds an "at all" to his previous sentence [12:35] I've got a lot of catching up to do ;) === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [foobar@td9091b4d.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:05] Hi all :) could someone answer my question on this bug, please :-) http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11613 [01:08] pete: i would incorporate the patch [01:08] SloMo_: ok, thanks [01:09] it should be in debian soon, and we can fix up changes next time round [01:09] so long as it builds now :) [01:15] hmm.. but after setting the bug-state to NEEDINFO I can't set it to PENDING, what should I do? [01:17] pete: maybe reassign to you and then set to pending [01:17] pete: but don't know whether this works ;) [01:18] SloMo_: it did :P [01:19] pete, do you have Editbugs [01:19] grr [01:19] brb [01:20] should I get wxwidgets 2.6 dragged in from experimental? === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:21] I asked already, doko has it covered [01:21] he wants it in main [01:21] which is fine by me, cos then I can build vlc against it :) [01:21] rock on [01:21] it would be nice to have another decent video player [01:21] crimsun: wonderful [01:22] crimsun: that'll let me get boa constructor 0.4.0 in, instead of merging for 0.3.0 === ajmitch will have to fix his own wx-dependant packages though [01:22] yep, been waiting for wxwidgets2.6.1 forever =) [01:23] gnue-designer doesn't like it, last I saw [01:23] but I'll bug uptream mercilessly === blueyed [~daniel@iD4CC008E.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed [~daniel@iD4CC008E.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === karlheg [~karlheg@host-250-237.resnet.pdx.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed [~daniel@iD4CC008E.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] GC.c:83: error: static declaration of 'static_objects' follows non-static declaration [01:42] ../includes/Storage.h:408: error: previous declaration of 'static_objects' was here [01:43] someone want to really make ghc6 actually compile with gcc-4.0 while I go to class for a while??? === lamont looks signficantly at siretart === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-124-109.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-224-161-103.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [travis@ip68-224-161-103.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] siretart, ping === wm_eddie [~wm_eddie@wm-eddie.info] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:11] little question concerning the licence in the copyright folder in a package [02:11] Lathiat: [02:11] Lathiat:s:f:g [02:11] supposing the licence is GPL, do I just have to paste the gpl licence . [02:12] i typed l: [02:12] ? [02:12] tseng: well uh [02:12] tseng: yourou have somethign sucky somewhere [02:12] Lathiat: like a regex [02:13] l:s:f:g [02:13] rock on. [02:13] tseng: :) === bddebian [~bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] gn8 everybody :) [02:26] Gnight SloMo_ [02:51] \sh_away: interested in checking out mythtv? looks like C++ vs gcc4 issue to me [02:51] \sh_away: on my latest test build [02:51] hey tseng [02:52] hi [02:52] im updating my desktop to breezy [02:52] for kicks [02:53] lovely [02:53] I think there's still X breakage [02:54] i know the gorey details [02:54] ive been runny breezy on my laptop (main machine) since it opened [02:55] actually, the people that updated early (like myself), seem to have a better time of it [02:55] meh [02:55] Burgundavia: yeah, I haven't shut down my X server for a few weeks [02:55] so things still run for me [02:55] hi ajmitch [02:55] hello chillywilly [02:55] i havent had X break badly enough yet that i couldnt fix [02:55] and i update every day [02:55] you guys just arent persistant enough [02:56] xlibs still fails with /etc/X11/xkb stuff here [02:56] or you want to press funnny keys on non-US keyboards [02:56] again [02:56] I have only had X not start once [02:56] ajmitch: dude i fixed that by hand days ago [02:56] tseng: congratulations [02:56] ill fix it again [02:56] I've done that once, first time it broke [02:56] Yeah ajmitch :-) [02:56] no big deal [02:56] damn naysayers [02:56] settle down fellas [02:57] dude === bddebian boots chillywilly [02:57] don't make we whip the trout out [02:57] heh [02:57] I'll do it ;) [02:58] you have the right to make jokes in here only after you've got a few packages uploaded [02:58] Hmm, does that include me too? [02:58] pffft [02:58] ajmitch: you need to loosen up some [02:59] chillywilly: Don't work, tseng hates me too :-) [02:59] Err s/work/worry === chillywilly is not effected in the least bit [02:59] but I *thought* ajmitchie was my buddy [03:00] :-) [03:00] we go back a long way ;) [03:00] I remember when ajmitchie used to run mandrake ;) [03:00] that was a long time ago [03:00] haha [03:00] Mandark [03:00] I don't admit to that anymore [03:00] lol [03:01] oh man [03:01] ajmitch, I ran into a nasty bug with networkmanager and X being dead [03:01] chillywilly is probably the only person in here who has a chance of knowing who Mandark is.. ;-P [03:01] Burgundavia: I haven't used networkmanager yet [03:02] ajmitch, nm kills networking without the whole thing running (which requires X) [03:02] so I couldn't update anything === chillywilly is trying to get samba to allow network browsing across an openvpn tunnel via WINS [03:02] Ugh, why? [03:02] I am building a VPN for MX [03:02] I thought it would be fun ;) [03:03] chillywilly: so when will you be helping out with motu work? :) [03:03] hey Ic an ping the end-points of the tunnel and hosts in each private subnet...just gotta get samba to cooperate [03:03] *sigh* [03:04] chillywilly: Which side is wins on or are you trying to make Samba the WINS? [03:04] ajmitch: hey, I at least have a vague idea of how it's al done now :) [03:04] all* [03:04] chillywilly: great, you can start fixing stuff then [03:04] ajmitch is a slave driver [03:04] yes plz [03:05] bddebian: the openvpn server end of the tunnel is the WINS server now [03:05] 10.8.0.1 or some such [03:05] *then* you can give me crap about trout [03:05] chillywilly: Are you getting name resolution at all? [03:05] bddebian: nope [03:05] not across the tunnel [03:05] think I will read through the howto book anyway [03:05] Add a hosts entry ;-P [03:06] yea I suppose I could do that, but should I have to? === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] I only have wins in the resolve line [03:07] ah, snacc has a nice big diff.. [03:07] WINS can be problematic across routers. You'd be better off with dns or hosts [03:07] bah === bddebian thinks daniels hates him too [03:08] nah, he's probably strangling xorg [03:08] :-) [03:08] bddebian: I added a comment about dropping all ubuntu changes to hardware-monitr, if you don't mind :) [03:08] hello all [03:08] Of course it probably doesn't help that I am annoying.. :-) [03:08] hi [03:08] ajmitch: Isn't that what I said in my comment? [03:09] Hello again tritium :-) [03:09] I don't think it wants to use the tunnel because it is not a broadcast interface [03:09] bddebian: no, you said that the ubuntu dropped parts can be ignored [03:09] I'm saying that it can be a straight sync, drop all ubuntu changes [03:09] Ooohh [03:10] minimising changes is good, it means we don't have to sync it next time round :) [03:10] bddebian, want to give me a tutorial on merging? From today's meeting where you got recognition for it, I figure you're good at it :) [03:10] tritium: Nah, I suck :-) [03:10] tritium: Whatdo you want to know? ( I keep meaning to put up a wiki ) [03:11] tseng: What is the packagename for mythtv? [03:11] bddebian, teach me everything you know, master jedi === ajmitch has a script or two to streamline merging [03:12] I've been gone so long, I want the Merging 101 with illustrations course [03:12] tritium: grab merge files from MOM, read REPORT, do as it says ;) [03:12] bddebian: mythtv? [03:13] the REPORT's fairly useful [03:13] ajmitch, many thanks. Please tell me what your scripts do? [03:13] check that it builds, works as intended, and that unwanted changes haven't crept in [03:13] tritium: just some things to run wget, put the files in a new directory [03:13] and a script to get a list of changed packages with regards to sid === ajmitch takesa look at oregano [03:14] are you making them available? [03:14] mmm, oregano [03:14] no, a 3 line shell script isn't something I'd normally think to publish :) [03:15] hey havoc [03:15] ajmitch, okay ;) === niran [~niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:16] tritium: mkdir, cd, and wget don't make for interesting reading [03:16] fair enough [03:17] tseng: apt-get source myth-tv yeilds nothing [03:17] i didnt say myth-tv [03:17] not once. [03:17] tritium: some packages you may wish to merge changes by hand instead of relying on MOM [03:17] I meant mythtv, that was a typo [03:18] especially when it's useless config.* changes [03:18] well, its there [03:18] bddebian: look in multiverse kthx [03:18] I should have universe/multiverse [03:18] ajmitch, okay, thanks. Let me orient myself a bit here... [03:19] tritium: Sorry, ajmitch is obviously faster than me.. :-) [03:19] bddebian: good, because it's there, under the name of mythtv [03:19] bddebian, no problem === comadreja [~comadreja@80.224.108.186] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:21] Bah, why am I bother with shit in multiverse? :-) [03:23] Hey mythtv_0.18.2 whatya know.. :-) === ajmitch is suprised that bddebian is still here - weren't you told not to associate with ubuntu? ;) [03:24] ajmitch: Oh, I should show you his reply [03:25] brb.. smoke [03:25] was it a private mail? [03:25] who told him not to associate with ubuntu? [03:26] RMS, of course :) [03:26] are you serious?!? [03:27] ubuntu distributes non-free software [03:27] so does everyone else [03:27] brb [03:31] ack, why is mythtv using gcc-3.3...?? === crimsun [~crimsun@rchp4.rochester.ibm.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] so after all that [03:45] X still cant find fixed [03:45] wtf === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] fixed the font paths [03:45] what was the fix for that? [03:46] Why does common.h fail on lines 61 and 65 and not 63. Makes no sense.. [03:46] Ohh, nm [03:49] tseng: Why not pull the newer version from upstream? [03:49] Because of UVF? [03:49] the newer version only has small fixes [03:49] we can proabbly get it approved [03:49] if it started building [03:50] BWAR you made me miss grub [03:50] Supposedly if has gcc4 fixes according to a Fedora mailing list [03:50] hm [03:50] can you test it ? [03:51] Sure but building packages from scratch isn't exaclty my strong suite yet :-) [03:51] the build at least, i can test using it [03:51] dude its not "from scratch" [03:52] Well I mean from upstream source :-) [03:52] meh [04:00] yeah, we need hct, it sounds like good crack [04:01] might make some of this merging a bit saner [04:01] hct? [04:01] tseng: Trying now [04:01] hypothetical changeset tool [04:01] Ahh [04:01] Speaking of which, is debdiff fixed in main yet? === ajmitch shrugs [04:05] Nope.. :-) [04:12] Damn mythtv is as bad or worse than octave [04:14] tseng: Do you know if mythplugins and myththemes are built into the current package? [04:30] wow [04:30] these Xfce-related ones will disappear once 4.2.2 from os-works is merged [04:31] Glad I didn't start on those yet then :) [04:32] yeah, we need to merge them from os-works, so you'll want to ignore the xf* ones [04:40] bbl [04:42] tseng: Dunno if you are still around or not but the updates from svn for mythtv get ALOT further. Now it chokes on a missing class declaration in libmpeg (I think) === jaldhar [~jaldhar@pcp09354467pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:56] If a merged package FTBFS due to missing dependency, what should I tag it as? UPSTREAM? === bddebian loves this channel this time of night.. :-) [05:20] someone out there ? [05:20] Nope :) [05:20] lol [05:21] bddebian: can you revue packages ? because I think all the problems in my packages are resolved, but before uploading everything, I'd just like to see if it seems correct ;) [05:21] Whassup? Not that I can help but I'll try [05:21] Tonio: No, I'm not an MOTU, sorry [05:21] okay ;) [05:22] I'll start the upgrade and we'll see ;) [05:26] Good luck :-) === crimsun [~crimsun@66-188-220-125.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:37] looks like you have a good list of merge bugs there bddebian ;) [05:38] like anyone cares.. :'-( [05:38] ;-P [05:38] bah, stop whining :P [05:38] OK, the ubuntu dropped patches for caudium are just weird === ajmitch takes a look at libccaudio [05:39] caudium was pretty crazy [05:39] And ignoring those, caudium wants pike7.6-dev (>= 7.6.27-2) and we have 7.6.24-1ubuntu1 [05:40] yup, the whole pike7.x mess [05:40] So leave it for now? [05:40] go for it if you'd like [05:41] How would I get around the pike build-dep? [05:42] Lower the dep and try it or try to get a newer pike from Debian? === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-224-161-103.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:43] the best bet is to try with the newest pike7.6 from Debian === ajmitch does some patch cleaning [05:44] copy & paste of patch doesn't work too well at times :) [05:45] lalala [05:45] chillywilly: Is that some new package you are building? === bddebian hides [05:45] yes, very useful, chillywilly :P [05:45] :) [05:46] crikey, you guys are relentless [05:46] chillywilly: :-* [05:46] ajmitch: What did I do wrong with libccaudio? [05:47] bddebian: nothing, I'm about to upload it === ogra [~ogra@p5089DDCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [~sz@p5089DDCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:48] ajmitch: I thought you said you had to fix it? === ogra_d [~ogra@p5089DDCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:49] Welcome ogra and ogra's daemon :-) [05:49] he is susus too? [05:49] bddebian: I had to clean up the patch that I copied & pasted [05:49] Hmm, maybe :-) [05:49] (s)he? [05:49] ajmitch: Ahh, OK [05:49] a simple tabs/spaces issue [05:50] crimsun: susus, ogra, and ogra_d are all the same exact hostmask and joined at the same time. [05:50] Amaranth, yep. Who knows who really lurks behind those nicks? [05:54] MOM does some weird shit sometimes or we have OLD patches lying around [05:55] both === Amaranth [travis@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:56] How can albatros build python2.3-albatross without build-depending python2.3? === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:05] hm, I can't setup a breezy chroot, as it fails with error E: couldn't download libiw27 [06:06] I have a pbuilder chroot setup and ready, but in order to test packages built in pbuilder, I also wanted a separate chroot [06:08] Build a local apt repository :-) [06:11] tritium, I've always built a Hoary chroot/pbuilder and dist-upgraded to Breezy [06:12] Aye, that is what I ended up having to do with pbuilder [06:12] I guess that's a possibility. I held off running breezy, as I wanted stability until I finished my research/dissertation [06:13] even at the moment, it's not advisable to run full-blown Breezy til Xorg is straightened out [06:13] yeah, that's another reason I was planning on a chroot === ajmitch dreads the uninstallable package list that will appear at some point [06:14] it'll make the merge list look trivial [06:15] or the FTBFS list when someone decides to rebuild the archive [06:15] as happened with hoary [06:15] anyone working on ghc6 source fixes? [06:15] sistpoty was [06:16] I think it still needs ghc6-bootstrap to build haskel-utils, but ghc6-bootstrap is on REVU [06:16] But don't quote me [06:25] well, it's ftbfs because of gcc-4.0 errors... I'm playing with 6.4-4ubuntu1 some now [06:26] You got around the haskel-utils build-dep? [06:27] uh, well... [06:27] I made libgmp3 exist [06:34] Z time [06:36] bddebian: you better get to bed soon before you end up sleeping on the couch ;) [06:36] chillywilly: Aye no kidding :-) === chillywilly is hungry again === bddebian hands chillywilly a cheesesteak [06:41] And the MOTUToMerge list.. === bddebian hides [06:43] mmm, cheesesteak === jbailey [~jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly is learning about NT domains and what samba can do [06:43] such fun... [06:43] Heh [06:43] you poor fellow [06:53] Hmm [06:54] What is this, the former Hurd crowd invades #ubunu-motu? =) [06:54] Heh [06:54] What do you mean "former" ? ;-) [06:54] =) [06:55] Updating dependencies...make[5] : *** [.deps.o] Error 127 WTF is that?? [06:55] hey jeff [06:55] bddebian: A 7-bit all ones? [06:55] G'm Andrew [06:55] how are you? [06:55] Sleepy. [06:56] But I've just uplaoded a new initramfs-tools that I want to put out a call for testers for. [06:56] So I'm waiting until it hits the archive. [06:58] Interpreter.c: In function 'interpretBCO': [06:58] Interpreter.c:1054: error: invalid lvalue in unary '&' [06:58] Interpreter.c:1067: error: invalid lvalue in unary '&' [06:58] Interpreter.c:1080: error: invalid lvalue in unary '&' [06:58] Interpreter.c:1093: error: invalid lvalue in unary '&' === lamont throws ghc6 back to siretart et al. Please don't ask for a bootstrap until you upload something that is gcc-4.0 capable. [06:59] kthxbye [06:59] Doh === jbailey looks up and realises that lamont isn't larting *him* for a change. === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.160.153] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:01] Is there an easy way to tell dpkg-source -b to not include .bzr / {arch} / whatever directories in the source? === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:01] jbailey: debuild -i [07:01] er, debuild -i -S :-) [07:02] lamont: Ooo, thanks. =) [07:02] although it might need some love to know about .bzr [07:02] 86 merge bugs still open for us.. === ajmitch will bbiab [07:02] Shouldn't be.. [07:03] Hmm. debuild -i.bzr -S didn't do it. [07:04] -i doesn't take args [07:04] it just knows [07:04] Oh> [07:04] The manpage for dpkg-buildpackage has: [07:04] -i[] [07:04] oh, ok [07:04] doesn't matter, you could still be right. [07:04] It's not like it worked. =) [07:05] Oh, it's for the diff. [07:05] This is a native package (initramfs-tools) === jbailey hates the distinction and wants it to go away. [07:05] tar --exclude=... :-) [07:08] I need to create a bzr-buildpackage [07:08] hi all [07:09] yay, building breezy's debootstrap on hoary worked. I have a breezy chroot now [07:09] Yeah.. === bddebian dances around tritium [07:09] Hello Unfrgiven [07:09] heh [07:09] OK, well I better get to bed. Gnight folks. Enjoy [07:10] good night, bddebian [07:10] bddebian: gnite [07:10] jeffy === TMM [~hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [~poningru@pool-68-238-172-217.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:03] morning [08:03] lamont: I will look more deeply into ghc for gcc4 and report back. [08:07] hi siretart [08:08] huhu Andrew === siretart detects increased revu traffic.. :) [08:22] hi [08:22] Tonio: hi [08:24] Unfrgiven: I should have said good night, 8:30 am here in france and still not to bed.... [08:24] Tonio: you were up the whole night? [08:24] yep [08:25] very knew to debian's world, but I really want to learn how to build packages correctly ;) [08:25] I think now it is okay ^^ [08:25] well I hope, let's see the revus.... [08:26] Tonio: cool :) [08:26] siretart: ping? [08:31] hey Unfrgiven , Tonio [08:32] ajmitch: yep ? [08:33] just saying hi.. [08:33] hey = hi, okay ;) [08:33] here in france hey is a way to call someone to tell him something so..... === Tonio fills stupid... [08:35] ajmitch: hey dude [08:35] ajmitch: how r ya [08:35] ajmitch: so, hey ;) [08:35] Unfrgiven: bug quick, I need to get to work ;) [08:35] doing well, how about you? [08:35] s/bug/but/ [08:36] Unfrgiven: how are those intro developer docs going? [08:36] huhu Tonio :) [08:36] hi siretart ;) [08:36]