[12:01] <\sh> SloMo_: no...imms
[12:02] <SloMo_> ok, thanks... i'll look at it now
[12:05] <SloMo_> hmm, what would i give now for a ssh login on some amd64 machine :( is someone on amd64 here who has some time to test a few changes to this package?
[12:09] <dholbach> SloMo_: eris built on all 4 architectures
[12:10] <\sh> amd64 machine? yes there was something
[12:10] <\sh> Mithrandir: ping u got my mail? :)
[12:10] <SloMo_> dholbach: yeah this was why i asked ;)
[12:11] <ajmitch> I don't think a 400MHz G3 is going to fly
[12:14] <SloMo_> \sh: can you look at imms then? ;) btw, what are you asking Mithrandir to do for you?
[12:15] <\sh> SloMo_: tomorrow morning as my first duty :)
[12:18] <\sh> ok...time for me to go to bed..
[12:18] <\sh> tomorrow more :)
[12:18] <SloMo_> ok, gn8 \sh :)
[12:18] <\sh> and thx again to all of you :)
[12:21] <dholbach> bye sh :)
[12:24] <SloMo_> hmm... now i've something to upload and have to wait for my key to be added ;) does someone wants to upload it for me?
[12:28] <dholbach> hey crimsun
[12:28] <Nafallo> ogra: ping
[12:28] <crimsun> hey dholbach
[12:29] <ogra> Nafallo, ?
[12:29] <Nafallo> ogra: didn't you fix dput to default to ubuntu? making some of the stuff on wiki.u.c/Uploads irrelevant? :-)
[12:29] <ogra> Nafallo, yep
[12:30] <Nafallo> ogra: nice. I'm glad I have some sort of memory ;-)
[12:30] <ogra> Nafallo, but you never know if someone misses the merge stuff and just syncs, so dont delete it completely
[12:30] <ogra> i.e. overrides my changes to dput and pulls the plain debian version in
[12:30] <ogra> but feel free to correct the page ;)
[12:31] <Nafallo> ogra: naah, I'm just to lazy to edit things. so I probably do not edit the wiki either ;-)
[12:32] <ogra> :)
[12:33] <Nafallo> I will probably be to most lazy MOTU yet ;-)
[12:33] <dholbach> Nafallo: that's a tough competition :/
[12:33] <ajmitch> Nafallo: get in line! ;)
[12:33] <Nafallo> dholbach: well, you got IRL-stuff going on ;-)
[12:33] <Nafallo> ajmitch: and you got debian :-P
[12:34] <Nafallo> I got Ubuntu :-)
[12:34] <dholbach> ajmitch: not at all
[12:34] <Nafallo> and porn-torrents ;-)
[12:35] <ajmitch> yay, new server for work might be debian
[12:35] <dholbach> ajmitch: we have quite a lot of motus on the list that never did more than 1-2 uploads themselves
[12:35] <ajmitch> for a few weeks I didn't do any
[12:35] <ajmitch> I've got a lot of catching up to do ;)
[01:05] <pete> Hi all :) could someone answer my question on this bug, please :-) http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11613
[01:08] <SloMo_> pete: i would incorporate the patch
[01:08] <pete> SloMo_: ok, thanks
[01:09] <ajmitch> it should be in debian soon, and we can fix up changes next time round
[01:09] <ajmitch> so long as it builds now :)
[01:15] <pete> hmm.. but after setting the bug-state to NEEDINFO I can't set it to PENDING, what should I do?
[01:17] <SloMo_> pete: maybe reassign to you and then set to pending
[01:17] <SloMo_> pete: but don't know whether this works ;)
[01:18] <pete> SloMo_: it did :P
[01:19] <Mez> pete, do you have Editbugs
[01:19] <Mez> grr
[01:19] <Mez> brb
[01:20] <ajmitch> should I get wxwidgets 2.6 dragged in from experimental?
[01:21] <crimsun> I asked already, doko has it covered
[01:21] <crimsun> he wants it in main
[01:21] <crimsun> which is fine by me, cos then I can build vlc against it :)
[01:21] <tseng> rock on
[01:21] <tseng> it would be nice to have another decent video player
[01:21] <ajmitch> crimsun: wonderful
[01:22] <ajmitch> crimsun: that'll let me get boa constructor 0.4.0 in, instead of merging for 0.3.0
[01:22] <crimsun> yep, been waiting for wxwidgets2.6.1 forever =)
[01:23] <ajmitch> gnue-designer doesn't like it, last I saw
[01:23] <ajmitch> but I'll bug uptream mercilessly
[01:42] <lamont> GC.c:83: error: static declaration of 'static_objects' follows non-static declaration
[01:42] <lamont> ../includes/Storage.h:408: error: previous declaration of 'static_objects' was here
[01:43] <lamont> someone want to really make ghc6 actually compile with gcc-4.0 while I go to class for a while???
[01:57] <Mez> siretart, ping
[02:11] <Tonio> little question concerning the licence in the copyright folder in a package
[02:11] <tseng> Lathiat:
[02:11] <tseng> Lathiat:s:f:g
[02:11] <Tonio> supposing the licence is GPL, do I just have to paste the gpl licence .
[02:12] <tseng> i typed l:
[02:12] <Tonio> ?
[02:12] <Lathiat> tseng: well uh
[02:12] <Lathiat> tseng: yourou have somethign sucky somewhere
[02:12] <tseng> Lathiat: like a regex
[02:13] <tseng> l:s:f:g
[02:13] <tseng> rock on.
[02:13] <Lathiat> tseng: :)
[02:25] <SloMo_> gn8 everybody :)
[02:26] <bddebian> Gnight SloMo_
[02:51] <tseng> \sh_away: interested in checking out mythtv? looks like C++ vs gcc4 issue to me
[02:51] <tseng> \sh_away: on my latest test build
[02:51] <ajmitch> hey tseng
[02:52] <tseng> hi
[02:52] <tseng> im updating my desktop to breezy
[02:52] <tseng> for kicks
[02:53] <ajmitch> lovely
[02:53] <ajmitch> I think there's still X breakage
[02:54] <tseng> i know the gorey details
[02:54] <tseng> ive been runny breezy on my laptop (main machine) since it opened
[02:55] <Burgundavia> actually, the people that updated early (like myself), seem to have a better time of it
[02:55] <tseng> meh
[02:55] <ajmitch> Burgundavia: yeah, I haven't shut down my X server for a few weeks
[02:55] <ajmitch> so things still run for me
[02:55] <chillywilly> hi ajmitch
[02:55] <ajmitch> hello chillywilly
[02:55] <tseng> i havent had X break badly enough yet that i couldnt fix
[02:55] <tseng> and i update every day
[02:55] <tseng> you guys just arent persistant enough
[02:56] <ajmitch> xlibs still fails with /etc/X11/xkb stuff here
[02:56] <tseng> or you want to press funnny keys on non-US keyboards
[02:56] <ajmitch> again
[02:56] <Burgundavia> I have only had X not start once
[02:56] <tseng> ajmitch: dude i fixed that by hand days ago
[02:56] <ajmitch> tseng: congratulations
[02:56] <tseng> ill fix it again
[02:56] <ajmitch> I've done that once, first time it broke
[02:56] <bddebian> Yeah ajmitch :-)
[02:56] <tseng> no big deal
[02:56] <tseng> damn naysayers
[02:56] <chillywilly> settle down fellas
[02:57] <tseng> dude
[02:57] <chillywilly> don't make we whip the trout out
[02:57] <bddebian> heh
[02:57] <chillywilly> I'll do it ;)
[02:58] <ajmitch> you have the right to make jokes in here only after you've got a few packages uploaded
[02:58] <bddebian> Hmm, does that include me too?
[02:58] <chillywilly> pffft
[02:58] <chillywilly> ajmitch: you need to loosen up some
[02:59] <bddebian> chillywilly: Don't work, tseng hates me too :-)
[02:59] <bddebian> Err s/work/worry
[02:59] <chillywilly> but I *thought* ajmitchie was my buddy
[03:00] <bddebian> :-)
[03:00] <chillywilly> we go back a long way ;)
[03:00] <chillywilly> I remember when ajmitchie used to run mandrake ;)
[03:00] <ajmitch> that was a long time ago
[03:00] <bddebian> haha
[03:00] <bddebian> Mandark
[03:00] <ajmitch> I don't admit to that anymore
[03:00] <chillywilly> lol
[03:01] <tseng> oh man
[03:01] <Burgundavia> ajmitch, I ran into a nasty bug with networkmanager and X being dead
[03:01] <bddebian> chillywilly is probably the only person in here who has a chance of knowing who Mandark is.. ;-P
[03:01] <ajmitch> Burgundavia: I haven't used networkmanager yet
[03:02] <Burgundavia> ajmitch, nm kills networking without the whole thing running (which requires X)
[03:02] <Burgundavia> so I couldn't update anything
[03:02] <bddebian> Ugh, why?
[03:02] <chillywilly> I am building a VPN for MX
[03:02] <chillywilly> I thought it would be fun ;)
[03:03] <ajmitch> chillywilly: so when will you be helping out with motu work? :)
[03:03] <chillywilly> hey Ic an ping the end-points of the tunnel and hosts in each private subnet...just gotta get samba to cooperate
[03:03] <chillywilly> *sigh*
[03:04] <bddebian> chillywilly: Which side is wins on or are you trying to make Samba the WINS?
[03:04] <chillywilly> ajmitch: hey, I at least have a vague idea of how it's al done now :)
[03:04] <chillywilly> all*
[03:04] <ajmitch> chillywilly: great, you can start fixing stuff then
[03:04] <bddebian> ajmitch is a slave driver
[03:04] <tseng> yes plz
[03:05] <chillywilly> bddebian: the openvpn server end of the tunnel is the WINS server now
[03:05] <chillywilly> 10.8.0.1 or some such
[03:05] <tseng> *then* you can give me crap about trout
[03:05] <bddebian> chillywilly: Are you getting name resolution at all?
[03:05] <chillywilly> bddebian: nope
[03:05] <chillywilly> not across the tunnel
[03:05] <chillywilly> think I will read through the howto book anyway
[03:05] <bddebian> Add a hosts entry ;-P
[03:06] <chillywilly> yea I suppose I could do that, but should I have to?
[03:06] <chillywilly> I only have wins in the resolve line
[03:07] <ajmitch> ah, snacc has a nice big diff..
[03:07] <bddebian> WINS can be problematic across routers.  You'd be better off with dns or hosts
[03:07] <chillywilly> bah
[03:08] <crimsun> nah, he's probably strangling xorg
[03:08] <bddebian> :-)
[03:08] <ajmitch> bddebian: I added a comment about dropping all ubuntu changes to hardware-monitr, if you don't mind :)
[03:08] <tritium> hello all
[03:08] <bddebian> Of course it probably doesn't help that I am annoying.. :-)
[03:08] <tseng> hi
[03:08] <bddebian> ajmitch: Isn't that what I said in my comment?
[03:09] <bddebian> Hello again tritium :-)
[03:09] <chillywilly> I don't think it wants to use the tunnel because it is not a broadcast interface
[03:09] <ajmitch> bddebian: no, you said that the ubuntu dropped parts can be ignored
[03:09] <ajmitch> I'm saying that it can be a straight sync, drop all ubuntu changes
[03:09] <bddebian> Ooohh
[03:10] <ajmitch> minimising changes is good, it means we don't have to sync it next time round :)
[03:10] <tritium> bddebian, want to give me a tutorial on merging?  From today's meeting where you got recognition for it, I figure you're good at it :)
[03:10] <bddebian> tritium: Nah, I suck :-)
[03:10] <bddebian> tritium: Whatdo you want to know?  ( I keep meaning to put up a wiki )
[03:11] <bddebian> tseng: What is the packagename for mythtv?
[03:11] <tritium> bddebian, teach me everything you know, master jedi
[03:12] <tritium> I've been gone so long, I want the Merging 101 with illustrations course
[03:12] <ajmitch> tritium: grab merge files from MOM, read REPORT, do as it says ;)
[03:12] <tseng> bddebian: mythtv?
[03:13] <crimsun> the REPORT's fairly useful
[03:13] <tritium> ajmitch, many thanks.  Please tell me what your scripts do?
[03:13] <ajmitch> check that it builds, works as intended, and that unwanted changes haven't crept in
[03:13] <ajmitch> tritium: just some things to run wget, put the files in a new directory
[03:13] <ajmitch> and a script to get a list of changed packages with regards to sid
[03:14] <tritium> are you making them available?
[03:14] <havoc> mmm, oregano
[03:14] <ajmitch> no, a 3 line shell script isn't something I'd normally think to publish :)
[03:15] <chillywilly> hey havoc
[03:15] <tritium> ajmitch, okay ;)
[03:16] <ajmitch> tritium: mkdir, cd, and wget don't make for interesting reading
[03:16] <tritium> fair enough
[03:17] <bddebian> tseng: apt-get source myth-tv yeilds nothing
[03:17] <tseng> i didnt say myth-tv
[03:17] <tseng> not once.
[03:17] <ajmitch> tritium: some packages you may wish to merge changes by hand instead of relying on MOM
[03:17] <bddebian> I meant mythtv, that was a typo
[03:18] <ajmitch> especially when it's useless config.* changes
[03:18] <tseng> well, its there
[03:18] <ajmitch> bddebian: look in multiverse kthx
[03:18] <bddebian> I should have universe/multiverse
[03:18] <tritium> ajmitch, okay, thanks.  Let me orient myself a bit here...
[03:19] <bddebian> tritium: Sorry, ajmitch is obviously faster than me.. :-)
[03:19] <ajmitch> bddebian: good, because it's there, under the name of mythtv
[03:19] <tritium> bddebian, no problem
[03:21] <bddebian> Bah, why am I bother with shit in multiverse? :-)
[03:23] <bddebian> Hey mythtv_0.18.2 whatya know.. :-)
[03:24] <bddebian> ajmitch: Oh, I should show you his reply
[03:25] <bddebian> brb.. smoke
[03:25] <ajmitch> was it a private mail?
[03:25] <chillywilly> who told him not to associate with ubuntu?
[03:26] <ajmitch> RMS, of course :)
[03:26] <chillywilly> are you serious?!?
[03:27] <ajmitch> ubuntu distributes non-free software
[03:27] <chillywilly> so does everyone else
[03:27] <crimsun> brb
[03:31] <bddebian> ack, why is mythtv using gcc-3.3...??
[03:45] <tseng> so after all that
[03:45] <tseng> X still cant find fixed
[03:45] <tseng> wtf
[03:45] <tseng> fixed the font paths
[03:45] <tseng> what was the fix for that?
[03:46] <bddebian> Why does common.h fail on lines 61 and 65 and not 63.  Makes no sense..
[03:46] <bddebian> Ohh, nm
[03:49] <bddebian> tseng: Why not pull the newer version from upstream?
[03:49] <bddebian> Because of UVF?
[03:49] <tseng> the newer version only has small fixes
[03:49] <tseng> we can proabbly get it approved
[03:49] <tseng> if it started building
[03:50] <tseng> BWAR you made me miss grub
[03:50] <bddebian> Supposedly if has gcc4 fixes according to a Fedora mailing list
[03:50] <tseng> hm
[03:50] <tseng> can you test it ?
[03:51] <bddebian> Sure but building packages from scratch isn't exaclty my strong suite yet :-)
[03:51] <tseng> the build at least, i can test using it
[03:51] <tseng> dude its not "from scratch"
[03:52] <bddebian> Well I mean from upstream source :-)
[03:52] <tseng> meh
[04:00] <ajmitch> yeah, we need hct, it sounds like good crack
[04:01] <ajmitch> might make some of this merging a bit saner
[04:01] <bddebian> hct?
[04:01] <bddebian> tseng: Trying now
[04:01] <ajmitch> hypothetical changeset tool
[04:01] <bddebian> Ahh
[04:01] <bddebian> Speaking of which, is debdiff fixed in main yet?
[04:05] <bddebian> Nope.. :-)
[04:12] <bddebian> Damn mythtv is as bad or worse than octave
[04:14] <bddebian> tseng: Do you know if mythplugins and myththemes are built into the current package?
[04:30] <crimsun> wow
[04:30] <crimsun> these Xfce-related ones will disappear once 4.2.2 from os-works is merged
[04:31] <bddebian> Glad I didn't start on those yet then :)
[04:32] <crimsun> yeah, we need to merge them from os-works, so you'll want to ignore the xf* ones
[04:40] <crimsun> bbl
[04:42] <bddebian> tseng: Dunno if you are still around or not but the updates from svn for mythtv get ALOT further.  Now it chokes on a missing class declaration in libmpeg (I think)
[04:56] <bddebian> If a merged package FTBFS due to missing dependency, what should I tag it as?  UPSTREAM?
[05:20] <Tonio> someone out there ?
[05:20] <bddebian> Nope :)
[05:20] <Tonio> lol
[05:21] <Tonio> bddebian: can you revue packages ? because I think all the problems in my packages are resolved, but before uploading everything, I'd just like to see if it seems correct ;)
[05:21] <bddebian> Whassup? Not that I can help but I'll try
[05:21] <bddebian> Tonio: No, I'm not an MOTU, sorry
[05:21] <Tonio> okay ;)
[05:22] <Tonio> I'll start the upgrade and we'll see ;)
[05:26] <bddebian> Good luck :-)
[05:37] <ajmitch> looks like you have a good list of merge bugs there bddebian  ;)
[05:38] <bddebian> like anyone cares.. :'-(
[05:38] <bddebian> ;-P
[05:38] <ajmitch> bah, stop whining :P
[05:38] <bddebian> OK, the ubuntu dropped patches for caudium are just weird
[05:39] <crimsun> caudium was pretty crazy
[05:39] <bddebian> And ignoring those, caudium wants pike7.6-dev (>= 7.6.27-2) and we have 7.6.24-1ubuntu1
[05:40] <crimsun> yup, the whole pike7.x mess
[05:40] <bddebian> So leave it for now?
[05:40] <crimsun> go for it if you'd like
[05:41] <bddebian> How would I get around the pike build-dep?
[05:42] <bddebian> Lower the dep and try it or try to get a newer pike from Debian?
[05:43] <crimsun> the best bet is to try with the newest pike7.6 from Debian
[05:44] <ajmitch> copy & paste of patch doesn't work too well at times :)
[05:45] <chillywilly> lalala
[05:45] <bddebian> chillywilly: Is that some new package you are building?
[05:45] <ajmitch> yes, very useful, chillywilly  :P
[05:45] <chillywilly> :)
[05:46] <chillywilly> crikey, you guys are relentless
[05:46] <bddebian> chillywilly: :-*
[05:46] <bddebian> ajmitch: What did I do wrong with libccaudio?
[05:47] <ajmitch> bddebian: nothing, I'm about to upload it
[05:48] <bddebian> ajmitch: I thought you said you had to fix it?
[05:49] <bddebian> Welcome ogra and ogra's daemon :-)
[05:49] <Amaranth> he is susus too?
[05:49] <ajmitch> bddebian: I had to clean up the patch that I copied & pasted
[05:49] <bddebian> Hmm, maybe :-)
[05:49] <crimsun> (s)he?
[05:49] <bddebian> ajmitch: Ahh, OK
[05:49] <ajmitch> a simple tabs/spaces issue
[05:50] <Amaranth> crimsun: susus, ogra, and ogra_d are all the same exact hostmask and joined at the same time.
[05:50] <crimsun> Amaranth, yep. Who knows who really lurks behind those nicks?
[05:54] <bddebian> MOM does some weird shit sometimes or we have OLD patches lying around
[05:55] <crimsun> both
[05:56] <bddebian> How can albatros build python2.3-albatross without build-depending python2.3?
[06:05] <tritium> hm, I can't setup a breezy chroot, as it fails with error E: couldn't download libiw27
[06:06] <tritium> I have a pbuilder chroot setup and ready, but in order to test packages built in pbuilder, I also wanted a separate chroot
[06:08] <bddebian> Build a local apt repository :-)
[06:11] <crimsun> tritium, I've always built a Hoary chroot/pbuilder and dist-upgraded to Breezy
[06:12] <bddebian> Aye, that is what I ended up having to do with pbuilder
[06:12] <tritium> I guess that's a possibility.  I held off running breezy, as I wanted stability until I finished my research/dissertation
[06:13] <crimsun> even at the moment, it's not advisable to run full-blown Breezy til Xorg is straightened out
[06:13] <tritium> yeah, that's another reason I was planning on a chroot
[06:14] <ajmitch> it'll make the merge list look trivial
[06:15] <ajmitch> or the FTBFS list when someone decides to rebuild the archive
[06:15] <ajmitch> as happened with hoary
[06:15] <lamont> anyone working on ghc6 source fixes?
[06:15] <bddebian> sistpoty was
[06:16] <bddebian> I think it still needs ghc6-bootstrap to build haskel-utils, but ghc6-bootstrap is on REVU
[06:16] <bddebian> But don't quote me
[06:25] <lamont> well, it's ftbfs because of gcc-4.0 errors... I'm playing with 6.4-4ubuntu1 some now
[06:26] <bddebian> You got around the haskel-utils build-dep?
[06:27] <lamont> uh, well...
[06:27] <lamont> I made libgmp3 exist
[06:34] <crimsun> Z time
[06:36] <chillywilly> bddebian: you better get to bed soon before you end up sleeping on the couch ;)
[06:36] <bddebian> chillywilly: Aye no kidding :-)
[06:41] <bddebian> And the MOTUToMerge list..
[06:43] <chillywilly> mmm, cheesesteak
[06:43] <chillywilly> such fun...
[06:43] <bddebian> Heh
[06:43] <ajmitch> you poor fellow
[06:53] <jbailey> Hmm
[06:54] <jbailey> What is this, the former Hurd crowd invades #ubunu-motu? =)
[06:54] <bddebian> Heh
[06:54] <bddebian> What do you mean "former" ? ;-)
[06:54] <jbailey> =)
[06:55] <bddebian> Updating dependencies...make[5] : *** [.deps.o]  Error 127   WTF is that??
[06:55] <ajmitch> hey jeff
[06:55] <jbailey> bddebian: A 7-bit all ones?
[06:55] <jbailey> G'm Andrew
[06:55] <ajmitch> how are you?
[06:55] <jbailey> Sleepy.
[06:56] <jbailey> But I've just uplaoded a new initramfs-tools that I want to put out a call for testers for.
[06:56] <jbailey> So I'm waiting until it hits the archive.
[06:58] <lamont> Interpreter.c: In function 'interpretBCO':
[06:58] <lamont> Interpreter.c:1054: error: invalid lvalue in unary '&'
[06:58] <lamont> Interpreter.c:1067: error: invalid lvalue in unary '&'
[06:58] <lamont> Interpreter.c:1080: error: invalid lvalue in unary '&'
[06:58] <lamont> Interpreter.c:1093: error: invalid lvalue in unary '&'
[06:59] <lamont> kthxbye
[06:59] <bddebian> Doh
[07:01] <jbailey> Is there an easy way to tell dpkg-source -b to not include .bzr / {arch} / whatever directories in the source?
[07:01] <lamont> jbailey: debuild -i
[07:01] <lamont> er, debuild -i -S :-)
[07:02] <jbailey> lamont: Ooo, thanks. =)
[07:02] <lamont> although it might need some love to know about .bzr
[07:02] <ajmitch> 86 merge bugs still open for us..
[07:02] <bddebian> Shouldn't be..
[07:03] <jbailey> Hmm.  debuild -i.bzr -S didn't do it.
[07:04] <lamont> -i doesn't take args
[07:04] <lamont> it just knows
[07:04] <jbailey> Oh>
[07:04] <jbailey> The manpage for dpkg-buildpackage has:
[07:04] <jbailey>        -i[<regexp>] 
[07:04] <lamont> oh, ok
[07:04] <jbailey> doesn't matter, you could still be right.
[07:04] <jbailey> It's not like it worked. =)
[07:05] <jbailey> Oh, it's for the diff.
[07:05] <jbailey> This is a native package (initramfs-tools)
[07:05] <lamont> tar --exclude=... :-)
[07:08] <jbailey> I need to create a bzr-buildpackage
[07:08] <Unfrgiven> hi all
[07:09] <tritium> yay, building breezy's debootstrap on hoary worked.  I have a breezy chroot now
[07:09] <bddebian> Yeah..
[07:09] <bddebian> Hello Unfrgiven
[07:09] <tritium> heh
[07:09] <bddebian> OK, well I better get to bed.  Gnight folks.  Enjoy
[07:10] <tritium> good night, bddebian
[07:10] <Unfrgiven> bddebian: gnite
[07:10] <chillywilly> jeffy
[08:03] <siretart> morning
[08:03] <siretart> lamont: I will look more deeply into ghc for gcc4  and report back.
[08:07] <ajmitch> hi siretart
[08:08] <siretart> huhu Andrew
[08:22] <Tonio> hi
[08:22] <Unfrgiven> Tonio: hi
[08:24] <Tonio> Unfrgiven: I should have said good night, 8:30 am here in france and still not to bed....
[08:24] <Unfrgiven> Tonio: you were up the whole night?
[08:24] <Tonio> yep
[08:25] <Tonio> very knew to debian's world, but I really want to learn how to build packages correctly ;)
[08:25] <Tonio> I think now it is okay ^^
[08:25] <Tonio> well I hope, let's see the revus....
[08:26] <Unfrgiven> Tonio: cool :)
[08:26] <Unfrgiven> siretart: ping?
[08:31] <ajmitch> hey Unfrgiven , Tonio
[08:32] <Tonio> ajmitch: yep ?
[08:33] <ajmitch> just saying hi..
[08:33] <Tonio> hey = hi, okay ;)
[08:33] <Tonio> here in france hey is a way to call someone to tell him something so.....
[08:35] <Unfrgiven> ajmitch: hey dude
[08:35] <Unfrgiven> ajmitch: how r ya
[08:35] <Tonio> ajmitch: so, hey ;)
[08:35] <siretart> Unfrgiven: bug quick, I need to get to work ;)
[08:35] <ajmitch> doing well, how about you?
[08:35] <siretart> s/bug/but/
[08:36] <ajmitch> Unfrgiven: how are those intro developer docs going?
[08:36] <siretart> huhu Tonio :)
[08:36] <Tonio> hi siretart  ;)
[08:36] <Tonio> siretart:  I hope the packages are good this time, cause I spent time....
[08:37] <siretart> Tonio: I'm currently too busy this week to do reviews, but we have new reviewers: Mez and slomo :)
[08:38] <Tonio> siretart: no pb, I'll see with Riddell too, he told me to tell him when the list is all packaged ;)
[08:39] <siretart>  super
[08:39] <siretart> ok. I'm off to uni now. cu later!
[08:39] <Tonio> still 4 apps to finish and I go to bed...
[09:07] <Unfrgiven> ajmitch: sorry was away... about to head off from work
[09:07] <Unfrgiven> ajmitch: ive been away/sick for the last 4 weeks and hence there hasn't been much progress on the docs. i really should wrap them up. ill do what i can to get them out the door asap
[09:09] <ajmitch> Unfrgiven: that's ok, I've been pretty busy too
[09:18] <Burgundavia> Unfrgiven, what format are they in?
[09:39] <Lathiat> yay my box of hoary cds rocked up today
[09:40] <jsgotangco> wow that took a while
[09:40] <Treenaks> mine haven't even been sent yet
[09:40] <Lathiat> yeh well its a shame mine didnt come earlier but oh well
[09:41] <Burgundavia> those who got warty cds got lower priority
[09:42] <Treenaks> Burgundavia: I know
[09:43] <Lathiat> Burgundavia: ah so i should have opened a new account? ;p
[09:43] <Lathiat> well hoary is a kicking release, i can go nuts giving them away now
[09:44] <Burgundavia> yes
[09:44] <Burgundavia> and the release path is going to be easy
[09:44] <Burgundavia> we may care about getting the latest crack, but grandma isn;t
[09:44] <Lathiat> well hoary is pretty good
[09:48] <\sh> morning
[09:50] <Valandil> good morning :))
[09:51] <Tonio-> good morning!
[09:58] <\sh> SloMo_: ping ;)
[09:59] <comadreja> goor morning motus
[09:59] <comadreja> s/goor/good :D
[10:11] <siretart> re
[10:36] <\sh> doko: ping u need some help with libcurl3?
[10:36] <doko> no, already done
[10:37] <\sh> doko: k
[10:54] <HostingGeek> Could we get this in the ubuntu web site
[10:55] <HostingGeek> http://www.mambocurve.com/
[10:55] <HostingGeek> some thing like that but way better...
[11:02] <\sh> HostingGeek: #ubuntu-devel
[11:03] <\sh> and I don't like those games...it's not user friendly..and slow
[11:03] <HostingGeek> --- Cannot join #ubuntu-devel (You are banned).
[11:03] <HostingGeek> hmm
[11:10] <\sh> HostingGeek: what did u do?
[11:10] <HostingGeek> \sh: I have been banned from every channel bob2 has been an OP in for the past few years
[11:40] <Burgundavia> I need an ftp that needs login to test a bug, anybody got one that I can test?
[11:42] <\sh> Burgundavia: u need a ftp account with userlogin?
[11:42] <\sh> Burgundavia: give me 3 mins
[11:43] <ajmitch> sigh, I wish this scanner would just work :)
[11:43] <Burgundavia> \sh, cheers
[11:43] <Burgundavia> \sh, you running breezy>
[11:44] <\sh> burgundavia: on the server is hoary
[11:45] <Burgundavia> need breezy nautilus to test this bug
[12:17] <ajmitch> but what should I set it as in bugzilla?
[12:17] <jan1> anybody running the latest xorg (-43) ?
[12:18] <Burgundavia> yes
[12:18] <jan1> apt-cache show xbase-clients
[12:19] <jan1> gives me the -42 version
[12:19] <\sh> is the latest
[12:19] <\sh> correct
[12:19] <jan1> and the package it empty except some docs
[12:19] <\sh> it's purpose until daniels fix xorg
[12:20] <jan1> so I gt no startx and other commands
[12:20] <jan1> what gives dpkg -S startx for you?
[12:20] <tseng> there is not startx
[12:20] <tseng> you arent going to find it.
[12:20] <\sh> same applies to the spoon
[12:20] <jan1> obsoleted, or just MIA at the moment?
[12:21] <tseng> ^^" until daniels fix xorg
[12:21] <\sh> DIA is a better abbrev.
[12:21] <jan1> so how do you guys run X right now?
[12:21] <\sh> kdm is just fine
[12:22] <\sh> with some tricks
[12:22] <jan1> ok thanks
[12:23] <JRe> Anyone know who is Anthony Mercatante ?
[12:23] <ajmitch> I just don't shutdown the running X server
[12:23] <ajmitch> X forwarding to other hosts has broken now though :)
[12:26] <siretart> JRe: I think that could be Tonio
[12:26] <JRe> siretart: okay you're right i think it is =) thanks!
[12:34] <ogra> ajmitch, use ssh :)
[12:36] <\sh> i have to switch to gnome for some tests
[12:36] <\sh> brb
[12:58] <Mez> I prob wont be here for review day tomorrow
[12:58] <Mez> so doing some now
[01:07] <siretart> Mez: ping
[01:07] <Mez> siretart: pong
[01:07] <Mez> sup?
[01:07] <ajmitch> ogra: as I said, ssh x forwarding didn't work.. :)
[01:07] <ogra> oh
[01:07] <ajmitch> xauth is missing
[01:08] <ajmitch> so I used 'scanimage' to get what I needed
[01:08] <ogra> i thougt that was solved... hmm
[01:08] <siretart> Mez: I'd like to request wifi-radar to be backported, as soon as it hits breezy (needing only one more review in revu, irrc)
[01:08] <siretart> iirc, even
[01:08] <siretart> Mez: would that be possible?
[01:08] <Mez> siretart : we can try
[01:08] <Mez> though looking at it
[01:08] <ogra> ajmitch, fabbione has a single xauth binary on p.u.c, grab that, copy it to /usr/bin and make it executable
[01:09] <Mez> IT's only had one person advocate it
[01:09] <ajmitch> ogra: ok..
[01:18] <\sh> Mithrandir: ping
[01:34] <Mez> hmm
[01:34] <Mez> in REVU someone has
[01:34] <Mez> Debian packager:
[01:34] <Mez>     Copyright 2005 Jean-Remy Falleri <jr.falleri@laposte.net>
[01:34] <Mez> in the debian/copyright
[01:34] <Mez> I dont think that should be there ...
[01:35] <Mez> or is it allowed
[01:35] <Mez> it's questionable whether you can copyright the creation of a package or not
[01:35] <Mez> as it's done through dh_make
[01:36] <JRe> Mez: i took exemple on a debian package
[01:36] <Mez> JRe, I'm sure you did, I'm just not sure if it's right
[01:37] <Mez> ogra: it's a new package
[01:37] <ogra> ah
[01:37] <Mez> I'm just wondering if it should be there... copyrighting the "package"
[01:37] <ajmitch> probably not
[01:38] <ogra> Mez, normally the first line in the copyright file tells you about the packager, that should be sufficient
[01:38] <Mez> there you go JRe. .. :D
[01:38] <ogra> This package was debianized by  ... on
[01:38] <ogra> Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:54:43 +0200.
[01:38] <Mez> other than that the package looks fine
[01:39] <JRe> ok 'ill cut out the copyright
[01:39] <Mez> :D
[01:39] <Mez> and reupload and I'll advocate :D
[01:40] <JRe> :)
[01:44] <Mez> :D
[01:44] <Mez> lol
[01:44] <Mez> (well archives them :P)
[01:49] <ajmitch> Mez: why so many archived? :)
[01:56] <Mez> cause they need work,m and wont get 3 advocates
[01:57] <Mez> under siretart's instructions :D
[01:58] <SloMo_> Mez: can you request a gkrellm backport? :) this was asked months ago in the forums and now we finally have the new version in breezy
[01:58] <SloMo_> \sh: pong
[02:00] <Mez> SloMo_, i can try
[02:01] <\sh> SloMo_: imms?
[02:02] <SloMo_> \sh: yes... have you looked at it on amd64? ;)
[02:02] <\sh> SloMo_: i don't have an reactivated account right now :(
[02:03] <SloMo_> \sh: hm :( and i can't fix it without an amd64 machine...
[02:03] <SloMo_> \sh: btw, you fixed grip on amd64... seems like a similar error ;) maybe X on amd64 is more broken than on other architectures?
[02:05] <\sh> no..grip is not fixed
[02:05] <ajmitch> time for sleep, night all
[02:05] <\sh> libXrender.la issues again...and it should not occure
[02:06] <\sh> but only on this arch
[02:06] <\sh> trying to fix fbi now
[03:17] <\sh> peter grundstrom?
[03:17] <\sh> pete at openfestis.com?
[03:17] <\sh> here?
[03:18] <\sh> pete: ping
[03:18] <\sh> :)
[03:20] <Amaranth> idle 3 hours
[03:21] <\sh> yeah
[03:21] <\sh> hope he's reading bugzilla mails from ubuntu ;)
[03:23] <pete> \sh: yes I'm here
[03:24] <\sh> pete: the patch for package X ;-) please provide the patch
[03:24] <\sh> for gcc4
[03:24] <\sh> and please build the packages via pbuilder to test...qiv was missing a dpatch build-dep
[03:25] <pete> \sh: the gcc patch is there "new merge patch with gcc4.0 fix"
[03:25] <\sh> pete: so it's included already...so I didn't catch your comment correctly..sorry for that
[03:28] <pete> \sh: the merge-patch for qiv makes it build-depend on dpatch
[03:28] <\sh> pete: provide debdiffs ;)
[03:29] <pete> \sh: and I do build the packages in pbuilder to test
[03:29] <\sh> it's easier for us then :)
[03:39] <bddebian> Howdy
[03:40] <tritium> Good morning, bddebian
[03:40] <bddebian> Heya tritium, how goes it?
[03:40] <tritium> Not bad, you?
[03:41] <bddebian> \sh: Hey, I swore I put python2.3, dia, tetex-*, etc in that diff.  I even had to go back in and hack it manually..???
[03:41] <bddebian> tritium: Fair to midland I suppose
[03:41] <tritium> that's a good start, I suppose ;)
[03:41] <\sh> bddebian: the patch wasn't really working..dunno why...anyways..the rest was fine
[03:42] <bddebian> \sh: No worries. I was getting a little late so who knows.. :-)
[03:42] <bddebian> tseng: ping?
[03:42] <bddebian> lamont: ping?
[03:45] <pete> \sh: the debdiff became identical with my other patch, why didn't that one do?
[03:49] <\sh> pete: sorry...I didn't see the debdiff..*grrrbangingmouseonthedesk*
[03:50] <\sh> pete: but anyways
[03:50] <\sh> * Resynchronise with Debian. * Added dpatch to build-deps * Sponsored for Peter Grundstroem (Closes Ubuntu: #11142)
[04:04] <bddebian> Holy moly, could vlc possibly have any more build-deps???  Sheesh.
[04:11] <Amaranth> hahaha
[04:11] <Amaranth> did you sync with sid?
[04:11] <bddebian> Amaranth: Me?
[04:11] <Amaranth> anyone
[04:11] <Amaranth> and what happened to us getting wxwidgets2.6?
[04:24] <bddebian> lamont__: What were you saying last night about ghc6-bootstrap not buidling on gcc4?  Is that the one posted on REVU?
[04:24] <lamont__> bddebian: source in the archive... there is no other
[04:24] <siretart> bddebian: he meant ghc6 in the archive
[04:25] <lamont__> bddebian: and yes, I meant ghc6, not ghc6-bootstrap
[04:26] <bddebian> Ohh, sorry
[04:50] <bddebian> We don't have libwxgtk2.5-dev ??
[04:57] <Amaranth> no
[04:58] <Amaranth> it got removed just like it did in debian
[04:58] <bddebian> But we have libwxgtk2.5.3!!??
[04:58] <Amaranth> no we don't
[04:58] <bddebian> It shows up for me
[04:58] <\sh> we don't have
[04:58] <\sh> latest package is 2.4
[04:59] <Amaranth> i think array 7 was the last to have it
[04:59] <bddebian> Shix, and here I am wasting all this time on VLC.. :'-(
[04:59] <\sh> doko: will u include libwxgtk2.6 in breezy?
[05:00] <\sh> bddebian: u don't read #ubuntu-devel, right?
[05:00] <\sh> bddebian: yesterday I had this problem with xchm..their was a source package with libwxgtk2.5 in the queue in dep-wait..and I uploaded with 2.4 to build...
[05:01] <bddebian> \sh: No I don't. SHould I? :-)
[05:01] <\sh> bddebian: why not :)
[05:01] <doko> \sh: it's proposed
[05:02] <bddebian> Because I'm not an ubuntu developer? :-)
[05:03] <\sh> bddebian: excuses excuses
[05:13] <Nafallo> bddebian: what are you then? MOTUs are as much Ubuntu Developers like those hired.
[05:13] <Nafallo> bddebian: and you are walking that path :-)
[05:13] <bddebian> Nafallo: I'm not an MOTU :-)
[05:13] <Nafallo> bddebian: ... yet
[05:14] <\sh> bah..every single time I hear this "I'm not an motu" MOTU is not a status for being a developer at all...
[05:15] <bddebian> I know, I didn't say that :-)
[05:15] <\sh> < bddebian> Nafallo: I'm not an MOTU :-)
[05:15] <\sh> 17:02 < bddebian> Because I'm not an ubuntu developer? :-)
[05:15] <bddebian> \sh: Those are factual.  I am neither :-)
[05:16] <Nafallo> bddebian: there are developers working on Ubuntu that are neither hired, nor MOTUs too. :-)
[05:17] <Nafallo> most of those are hopefully struggling to become MOTUs though ;-)
[05:17] <bddebian> I am sure that there are.
[05:18] <bddebian> \sh: My point exactly.  And I barely consider myself a sysadmin when it comes to *nix platforms ;)
[05:18] <Nafallo> \sh: so you haven't really made that kde-torrent thing then? :-)
[05:18] <\sh> I would never consider myself a windows admin ,-)
[05:19] <\sh> Nafallo: actually...I'm trying to find the time for this goody
[05:19] <bddebian> So I may as well not bother with vlc or should I try with libwxgtk2.4 ?
[05:19] <\sh> I think in between breezy and breezy+1
[05:19] <\sh> bddebian: yes
[05:19] <bddebian> Uhm, yes to which? :-)
[05:19] <\sh> libwxgtk2.4
[05:19] <bddebian> OK, thx
[05:20] <\sh> I would never say no to "don't bother with vlc"
[05:20] <\sh> what did I say now? I need to find the logic
[05:20] <Amaranth> users will smite you
[05:20] <Nafallo> hmm, OT-question. how many gerbils shall me and my girlie have? ;-)
[05:20] <bddebian> Uhhh
[05:20] <Amaranth> i tried getting vlc 0.8.2 from sid running with wxwidgets2.6 but vlc's ./configure was being a pest
[05:20] <ogra> Nafallo, do you want a vote ? write a wikipage please ;)
[05:21] <bddebian> Amaranth: So you are working on this?
[05:21] <\sh> gerbils?
[05:21] <Amaranth> bddebian: not anymore, no
[05:21] <ogra> we can post this in #ubuntu .... to get more opinions...
[05:21] <\sh> dict:gerbils
[05:21] <bddebian> Amaranth: But you are saying don't try it with 2.4?
[05:21] <\sh> !ogra gerbils
[05:21] <Amaranth> bddebian: go ahead, i gave up waiting for 2.6
[05:21] <Nafallo> ogra: naah. we just can't decide if we shall buy the one we bought todays brother or not :-). he looked so damn lonely...
[05:21] <ogra> \sh, use your imagination
[05:21] <Amaranth> yeah, i only tried with 2.6
[05:21] <SloMo_> Nafallo: what about two then? ;)
[05:21] <Nafallo> SloMo_: we got two :-)
[05:21] <\sh> ogra: babies
[05:22] <Nafallo> SloMo_: we ponders three ;-)
[05:22] <bddebian> Nafallo: 2 or 4 trust me. :-) I have 3 ;-P
[05:22] <Nafallo> Mithrandir and Simira has 3 now :-)
[05:22] <Nafallo> aswell.
[05:23] <Nafallo> \sh: naah. look up gerbil instead ;-)
[05:23] <Amaranth> 2 is 3 too many
[05:23] <SloMo_> bddebian: yeah... better two pairs than one pair and one loner ;)
[05:23] <\sh> lol
[05:23] <bddebian> SloMo_: Aye, exactly :-)
[05:24] <Nafallo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerbil
[05:24] <Nafallo> :-)
[05:24] <ogra> \sh, but it could be a baby replacement :)
[05:24] <\sh> *click* as I said: babies..make babies
[05:24] <\sh> wuestenrennmaeuse <- gerbil
[05:24] <\sh> oh god
[05:24] <\sh> I don't have even a desert for those mice
[05:25] <ogra> Nafallo, how about a kitten... i'll have a handfull soon... my male cat showed us last week that it is not male at all....
[05:25] <\sh> *rotflbtc*
[05:25] <SloMo_> \sh: lol... i'm afraid nafallo hasn't one too... i don't know of any deserts in sweden ;)
[05:25] <\sh> ogra: this u can see normally
[05:26] <Nafallo> hehe
[05:26] <\sh> ogra: u know..there is a small but noticable difference between a male or female cat ,-)
[05:27] <ogra> \sh, yes... the males are the ones on top ;)
[05:27] <bddebian> hahaha
[05:27] <Nafallo> ogra: you're not laying _on top_ of the cat now, are you?
[05:27] <\sh> ogra: u should have known it by heart...if the cat wants to (you know) it comes all the time to a male..even when he's human ;-)
[05:28] <ogra> \sh, to many male cats around here... i just havent seen her for some days .... then she came back with her friend and showed us she's no boy :)
[05:28] <\sh> totally OT but funny...ogras male cat is a female...but u didn't bought it from a brazilian dealer, right? *lol*
[05:28] <ogra> Nafallo, heh, nope
[05:29] <ogra> \sh, hmmm... you mean its a brazilian conspiration that cats change their sex ?
[05:29] <bddebian> WTF is libpostproc-dev??
[05:30] <\sh> ogra: yes :)
[05:30] <\sh> it must be ;)
[05:30] <Nafallo> bddebian: a lib with develstuff I would guess :-)?
[05:30] <bddebian> WOW, thanks man :-)
[05:30] <bddebian> And we don't have it and vlc wants it
[05:30] <SloMo_> bddebian: libpostproc is either a mplayer or a transcode lib ;)
[05:31] <Nafallo> bddebian: we have it btw
[05:31] <Nafallo> bddebian: it's in multiverse
[05:33] <\sh> Package: ffmpeg
[05:33] <\sh> Binary: libavformat-dev, libavcodec-dev, libpostproc-dev, ffmpeg
[05:34] <bddebian> Nafallo: I can't get it
[05:34] <\sh> or this one
[05:34] <tseng> bddebian: ?
[05:34] <\sh> Package: mplayer-libpostproc
[05:34] <\sh> Binary: libpostproc0, libpostproc-dev
[05:34] <\sh> apt-cache showsrc libpostproc-dev
[05:34] <\sh> gives u all alternatives
[05:34] <bddebian> Oh shit, I don't have multiverse set back up in my pbuilder.. Grrr
[05:34] <\sh> use the one from main pls
[05:34] <bddebian> tseng: Did you get my "notes" about mythtv last night
[05:34] <bddebian> \sh: Use what from main?
[05:34] <tseng> bddebian: eh, using svn isnt really an option
[05:35] <tseng> bddebian: or, more of a last option
[05:35] <bddebian> tseng: Why?
[05:35] <whiprush> tseng: hey.
[05:35] <\sh> 17:33 < \sh> Package: ffmpeg
[05:35] <\sh> 17:33 < \sh> Binary: libavformat-dev, libavcodec-dev, libpostproc-dev, ffmpeg
[05:35] <tseng> because mythtv development isnt that stable
[05:35] <tseng> aiui
[05:35] <\sh> bddebian: the libpostproc-dev
[05:35] <tseng> whiprush: hi
[05:35] <whiprush> tseng: novell has a public ifolder that you can get an account on.
[05:35] <whiprush> I signed up and it's all working as advertised.
[05:35] <tseng> hrm
[05:36] <tseng> i dont have time to do all the packaging
[05:36] <tseng> its huge
[05:36] <bddebian> tseng: mythtv?
[05:36] <tseng> ifolder
[05:36] <tseng> comeon
[05:36] <bddebian> I can't keep up
[05:37] <tseng> im in 11 channels
[05:37] <tseng> you can keep up with one :)
[05:37] <bddebian> Well I have only 10 so you got me there
[05:38] <\sh> np: The Pretenders - Ill Stand by You (1:10 / 0:00)
[05:39] <bddebian> Man and WOman or whatever the title is, is the best Pretenders song
[05:44] <\sh> is monotone a mono app??
[05:45] <tseng> no
[05:45] <tseng> its a RCS
[05:46] <\sh> good ;)
[05:46] <\sh> bah..it's using libboost *shrugs*
[05:46] <tseng> hey
[05:46] <tseng> i transitioned liboost in hoary
[05:46] <tseng> *shudder*
[05:47] <\sh> I transed it to gcc4
[05:47] <\sh> or better I patched it to work with gcc4
[05:47] <\sh> and now...monotone throws errors...4.3MB of raw source
[05:49] <\sh> lets see what I can do
[05:50] <whiprush> tseng: would you have time to review it you think?
[05:51] <SloMo_> hmm, finally merged openscenegraph ;) really disturbing when the package needs half an hour to compile...
[05:51] <tseng> whiprush: review what?
[05:51] <whiprush> ifolder, if I were to package it up?
[05:51] <whiprush> for correctness I mean.
[05:51] <tseng> ifolder garbage parts 1-32?
[05:51] <whiprush> heh
[05:51] <tseng> ok
[05:51] <SloMo_> whiprush: i can also review it for you ;)
[05:51] <tseng> slomo is good
[05:51] <whiprush> okey
[05:52] <tseng> where is my policy
[05:52] <tseng> http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/cli-policy/index.html
[05:52] <tseng> you need this.
[05:53] <whiprush> okey
[05:53] <tseng> i am doing evil stuff at work
[05:53] <tseng> its very draining
[05:53] <bddebian> Probably not as Evil as I :-)
[05:54] <tseng> ever hacked credit card systems?
[05:54] <bddebian> Ohh, not quite THAT evil :-)
[05:54] <whiprush> my best friend works at a credit card processing firm
[05:54] <tseng> whiprush: he's me
[05:55] <whiprush> I feel your pain then
[05:55] <tseng> bddebian: hm, i work for the company
[05:55] <tseng> its not evil in that scense
[05:55] <tseng> we do fake requests to verify things are working
[05:55] <bddebian> Cool
[05:55] <tseng> the systems are very archaic
[05:55] <the--dud> hi folks
[05:55] <bddebian> COBOL on VMS? ;-)
[05:56] <bddebian> Hello the--dud
[05:56] <tseng> eh
[05:56] <tseng> you dialup to it
[05:56] <bddebian> Ohh
[05:56] <the--dud> I don't suppose any MOTU guy wanna 'adopt' my http://nix-dev.dudcore.net/CurrProjects/NetselectAptUbuntu
[05:56] <tseng> and send a string of characters
[05:56] <the--dud> ?
[05:56] <tseng> every vendor has their own spec
[05:57] <Amaranth> tseng: I was trying to get one of those stupid machines to work at a restaurant once.
[05:57] <the--dud> *_*
[05:57] <Amaranth> tseng: No one realized they couldn't be on that phone line talking if they wanted to CC machine to work. :)
[06:00] <the--dud> noone?
[06:01] <\sh> the--dud: package it..upload it to revu
[06:01] <the--dud> hrm... thanks
[06:02] <the--dud> isnt there a packet guide somewhere on the wiki?
[06:02] <the--dud> package even
[06:02] <comadreja> could somebody help me with this ? http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=158
[06:02] <\sh> the--dud: wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources
[06:03] <SloMo_> comadreja: sure... what is the problem with that package? (btw, why is there a *.diff with 0 bytes and no real diff?)
[06:03] <comadreja> SloMo_ : it's new
[06:04] <comadreja> SloMo_ : I packaged it, the point is, the original sources include a shared library already compiled
[06:04] <comadreja> SloMo_ : That's why I made it architecture dependent
[06:05] <SloMo_> comadreja: hm, where does this shared library come from?
[06:05] <comadreja> SloMo_ : also I got a question, because the program has to be ran from inside the program directory, so I created a samll script, but didn't put the script in /usr/bin
[06:06] <comadreja> \sh have some rest
[06:06] <comadreja> SloMo_ : I don't know
[06:06] <SloMo_> comadreja: can you contact the upstream author about that library and why he don't include the sources for it?
[06:07] <SloMo_> comadreja: btw... pytrayicon.so sound like something usefull... maybe it is already in another package?
[06:07] <comadreja> SloMo_ : I did, but he didn't answer
[06:08] <comadreja> SloMo_ : package straw also has that library
[06:08] <\sh> comadreja: straw?
[06:08] <SloMo_> comadreja: with sources?
[06:08] <\sh> shermann@shermann-laptop:~$ apt-file search pytrayicon.so
[06:08] <\sh> straw: usr/lib/straw/straw/pytrayicon.so
[06:09] <the--dud> ls
[06:09] <\sh> but straw is not arch dep or?
[06:10] <SloMo_> \sh: yeah... straw has the sources for this library included...
[06:10] <SloMo_> it's just a part of libegg it seems
[06:10] <bddebian> doko: I "fixed" python-slang and should be ready to upload, sorry
[06:11] <\sh> SloMo_: so let him use this..
[06:12] <comadreja> so, should I package pytrayicon ?
[06:12] <SloMo_> comadreja: another question... why is this installed in /var/lib? seems wrong for me
[06:12] <\sh> comadreja: include it in your package
[06:12] <SloMo_> comadreja: nope... included it
[06:12] <\sh> completly
[06:13] <comadreja> but then: should I make it architecture dependent ?
[06:13] <\sh> no...take the source from straw
[06:13] <comadreja> the reason about /var/lib is because the program needs to be completely in one directory
[06:14] <SloMo_> comadreja: why not /usr/lib/gmail-notify or something?
[06:14] <bddebian> tseng: Please don't get mad at me but if updating mythtv from svn helps with gcc4 issues, why is it a bad thing?  Doesn't it save work?
[06:14] <comadreja> SloMo_ : I used debian's procedure... usually they put it in /var/lib
[06:14] <comadreja> SloMo_ : because, it's neither a library
[06:15] <SloMo_> comadreja: they do? ok, nevermind :) i just know from the mono stuff that they put everything in /usr/lib/pkgname and a wrapper script in /usr/bin
[06:15] <comadreja> SloMo_ : really ? I used to see this way, I have no problem on moving it
[06:16] <comadreja> point is that is really python code
[06:16] <comadreja> so I treated it like web scripts
[06:16] <SloMo_> hmm, but it is no webscript... smeg is also python and it's stuff is in /usr/lib/smeg
[06:17] <Amaranth> that's changing
[06:17] <comadreja> then I'll put it /usr/lib, as I said, it's not a problem at all
[06:17] <SloMo_> Amaranth: where will it move to?
[06:17] <comadreja> btw, is there any way to download a package from revu without having to download it's parts ?
[06:18] <Amaranth> /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Smeg/
[06:19] <siretart> comadreja: not yet
[06:19] <Amaranth> it makes things a lot easier on me having it there
[06:19] <Amaranth> plus my MenuHandler is becoming more usable for normal folks
[06:19] <Amaranth> err, for other apps
[06:19] <SloMo_> comadreja: and can you make this a non-native package? e.g. with an gmail-notify_1.6.orig.tar.gz and an corresponding diff.gz ;) it makes updates just to the packaging part easier
[06:21] <comadreja> SloMo_ : sure, I used dh_make
[06:21] <the--dud> erm, dh_make has a choice of binary, library, and modules
[06:21] <the--dud> how about non-compiled scripts? :/
[06:21] <siretart> the--dud: you want to package a single simple shellskript?
[06:22] <the--dud> yeah >_<
[06:22] <siretart> what kind of skript? is it really worth a package?
[06:22] <the--dud> I can see netselect-apt is, and thats even simpler than what I plan to pack, plus its 95% useless on ubuntu :p
[06:23] <comadreja> SloMo_ : pytray icon has lots of sources, maybe I should just create a dependency on straw (?)
[06:23] <SloMo_> comadreja: ok, fine :) but i would retry to talk with the upstream author regarding pytrayicon.so
[06:24] <siretart> the--dud: hm. I never heard about netselect-apt. can't u take that package as template?
[06:24] <the--dud> I suppose... I'll have a look, thanks
[06:24] <SloMo_> comadreja: no... that way everybody who wants to use gmail-notify has to install straw even when they don't use it
[06:24] <comadreja> SloMo_ : cool, now... how do I make it a non-native package ? I mean, is there a tool ? or I just have to rename some files ?
[06:25] <SloMo_> comadreja: put the upstream tarball in the parent directory and name it gmail-notify_1.6.orig.tar.gz and the next time you do dpkg-buildpackage you will get just the diff against this tarball
[06:25] <Amaranth> pytrayicon.so? wtf
[06:26] <Amaranth> g-p-e has trayicon bindings
[06:26] <comadreja> SloMo_ :thanks
[06:26] <comadreja> Amaranth : gmail-notify uses that...
[06:26] <comadreja> I'm just the messenger :)
[06:27] <SloMo_> comadreja: tell upstream about gnome-python-extras ;)
[06:28] <comadreja> SloMo_ : ok
[06:37] <SloMo_> comadreja: otherwise the package seems ok to me... hm, but maybe you can have a look at cdbs? this will make maintaining the debian/rules a bit easier
[06:38] <comadreja> I usually use dpatch , is it for the same thing right ?
[06:40] <SloMo_> nope... it takes away some common rules which you then have to include... for example the whole binary-arch rule you currently have there could be ommited
[06:40] <SloMo_> comadreja: https://perso.duckcorp.org/duck/cdbs-doc/cdbs-doc.xhtml
[06:40] <SloMo_> comadreja: and maybe this as an example debian/rules file ;) http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/incoming/dirac-0507252350/dirac-0.5.2/debian/rules
[06:42] <SloMo_> bddebian: i haven't found better ones yet... do you know some? ;)
[06:42] <bddebian> SloMo_: No, so please write one. ;-P
[06:43] <comadreja> I'll have fun, then :)
[06:43] <SloMo_> bddebian: no, better not... i don't want to torment more people the necessary with my english ;)
[06:44] <bddebian> SloMo_: Bah, your English is great
[06:44] <bddebian> btw "more people than necessary" ;-P
[06:45] <SloMo_> bddebian: hehe thanks ;) what exactly don't you like in that cdbs docs?
[06:45] <bddebian> I think they are less than helpful
[06:45] <bddebian> They don't really tell you anything
[06:46] <Nafallo> we got 3 gerbils now :-)
[06:47] <SloMo_> bddebian: hmm... they included everything i needed to get used to cdbs ;)
[06:47] <bddebian> SloMo_: Well remember, I'm kinda st00pid :)
[06:48] <SloMo_> bddebian: you're not :P but when you have some cdbs questions just ask me ;)
[06:48] <bddebian> OK, thx
[06:50] <SloMo_> oh no... patching time :/ gpsd is using the old dbus api...
[07:57] <SloMo_> anybody here who knows something about the dbus C api?
[08:04] <diamond> Mez: hi. you're involved in the ubuntu backports effort, yes?
[08:07] <Mez> yes
[08:07] <diamond> Mez: actually, have an email almost finished, i'll just send it -)
[08:08] <diamond> Mez: sent.
[08:09] <SloMo_> Mez: are we allowed to backport mono stuff?
[08:09] <Mez> SloMo_, not really
[08:09] <Mez> diamond, sent to where?
[08:10] <diamond> Mez: martin @ sf.net
[08:10] <tseng> Mez: SloMo_ i would like to have a proper backport on the new system if someone consults me first
[08:10] <Mez> of what new system?
[08:10] <tseng> i was pretty steamed after last time
[08:11] <tseng> backports from buildd
[08:11] <tseng> not random people's pcs
[08:11] <Mez> lol :DF
[08:11] <Mez> what are you wanting to be consulted on/
[08:11] <tseng> what packages to backport for starters
[08:12] <Mez> tseng,
[08:12] <tseng> last time it was a very small portion of a large interrelated set
[08:12] <Mez> that's for backporters to do... and what makes you like ... the "authority" on what to backport
[08:12] <Mez> or are you on about mono stuff?
[08:12] <tseng> because it was broken
[08:12] <tseng> mono stuff
[08:12] <Mez> ah, ok
[08:12] <tseng> i dont want to keep being an ass
[08:13] <Mez> mono sutff in unofficial backports were the suck
[08:13] <tseng> i just hear about it several times a day
[08:13] <Mez> ...?
[08:13] <ogra> Mez, tseng is our mono god
[08:13] <tseng> i watch most mono channels
[08:13] <Mez> yeah, I know
[08:13] <Mez> and mono backports = the suck
[08:13] <Mez>  :d
[08:13] <tseng> people want ubuntu + mono
[08:13] <Mez> lol
[08:14] <tseng> they got broken stuff
[08:14] <tseng> ive beaten this to death once before
[08:14] <Mez> yeah, but well... we gotta backport stuff propley
[08:14] <tseng> yes, which would be a team effort :)
[08:14] <tseng> what ive been trying to say
[08:14] <Mez> lol :D
[08:15] <slomo> tseng: hehe ok... when we really want to backport mono again we'll work together with you, ok? ;)
[08:15] <Mez> hehhehehehe
[08:15] <tseng> please
[08:15] <slomo> Mez: i didn't mean mono itself but muine for example ;)
[08:15] <tseng> no thats my point exactly
[08:15] <tseng> you cant just backport muine
[08:15] <tseng> it will be exactly the same thing
[08:16] <slomo> ok
[08:16] <Mez> grr
[08:16] <Mez> thing is, the backports only works on thigns against main
[08:16] <Mez> so say for example, mono-mcs
[08:16] <tseng> everything changed between hoary + breezy
[08:16] <Mez> it wont compile unless that's backported too
[08:16] <Mez> and well, we dont want that do we
[08:17] <tseng> then ill do it myself
[08:17] <siretart> Mez: if it is done, it really should be tested with a seperated, private repository.
[08:18] <tseng> oh wow, you already started this?
[08:18] <tseng> < #-dev
[08:18] <Mez> siretart - I agree
[08:18] <Mez> and tseng - yeah - some things are like - already started
[08:18] <tseng> dude.
[08:18] <Mez> I didnt know there was mono stuff in there, cause I didnt know what stuff was mono just from pacakge names
[08:18] <Mez> I'm just using that as an example
[08:20] <Mez> Needs-Build is when it's in the queue to be built - yes?
[08:20] <slomo> Mez: have you already requested removal of gtk-sharp2-unstable at elmo?
[08:20] <Mez> slomo - I've tried :D but no response
[08:21] <Mez> btw, cli-common backported nicely
[08:21] <tseng> its just perl scripts.
[08:21] <tseng> dh_clideps et all
[08:21] <slomo> hehe... Mez, next time ask me and i'll tell you whether it's mono or not ;)
[08:21] <Mez> slomo - I just sent a list I already knew about
[08:22] <tseng> we can backport mono fine
[08:22] <tseng> if you walk up the dependency tree
[08:22] <Mez> ...?
[08:22] <tseng> and not just throw random things at the wall and hope they stick
[08:22] <Mez> tseng - wanna move this to mailing list?
[08:22] <tseng> a backports list?
[08:22] <Mez> It'll help things  alotif we have you on board
[08:23] <tseng> i am on board
[08:23] <Mez> yeah, ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com
[08:23] <tseng> i just get unrationally upset if you start shipping broken stuff
[08:23] <bddebian> Mez: You got accepted as MOTU right?
[08:23] <Mez> bddebian, yeah
[08:23] <bddebian> OK, cool.  COngrats :-)
[08:23] <Mez> tseng, well everythings built from breezy
[08:23] <tseng> thats fine, we need to do it in order
[08:24] <Mez> fair enough tseng
[08:24] <Mez> you need to tell me where to start :D
[08:24] <tseng> cli-common and mono
[08:24] <Mez> cli-common = dont already
[08:25] <Mez> done *
[08:25] <tseng> what do i send to the list
[08:25] <tseng> to subscribe
[08:25] <Mez> sign up @ http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[08:25] <tseng> thanks
[08:26] <slomo> ok, so now we're backporting mono with tseng's help? fine ;)
[08:26] <Mez> :D
[08:26] <tseng> yay
[08:28] <ogra> wow, looks like hoary users wil get nice mono apps :) great
[08:40] <Mez> tseng: did you get the email on the list regarding mono
[08:43] <tseng> no but i read it on archive
[08:43] <tseng> and "replied"
[08:43] <Mez> lol
[08:43] <tseng> it wont show up as a real reply obviously
[08:43] <tseng> but i sent it
[08:44] <Mez> lol
[08:44] <herve> hello!
[08:44] <Mez> lo
[08:46] <herve> are Debian servers down? I don't follow the lists anymore
[08:53] <bddebian> Heya herve
[08:54] <jamessan|work> herve: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/07/msg00013.html
[08:55] <herve> thanks jamessan|work
[09:04] <slomo> hmm... sear has funny build-depends... already found 3 libraries which need a rebuild because of cxxtransition ;)
[09:04] <bddebian> Fun :-)
[09:08] <bddebian> Uhm, is there a good reason for this: libmetakit2.4.9.3-2.4.9.3 ??
[09:11] <slomo> is someone with upload rights here who wants to upload a package which needed cxxtransition?
[09:15] <herve> yes
[09:16] <Lathiat> time to install ubuntu on a second partition for breezy work
[09:16] <Lathiat> and can do so with my shiny new hoary cds :)
[09:16] <slomo> herve: do you want the debdiff via mail?
[09:16] <Lathiat> actually, is there a working breezy install cd yet?
[09:16] <herve> slomo, debdiff + your source package
[09:17] <herve> either mail or download
[09:22] <bddebian> OK, libmetakit apears b0rked.  THe dropped patches make changes for python2.3 and the merged source has a combination of old stuff and python-2.4.. ??? :-(
[09:24] <bddebian> s/taling/talking/
[09:26] <herve> bddebian, I had that too
[09:26] <herve> I prefered to download the new debian package and transition it again to Python 2.4
[09:27] <herve> following what was done at the time of the ubuntu package
[09:28] <slomo> hehe... and i had a package where MoM has killed the configure script ;)
[09:37] <\sh> argl
[09:37] <\sh> too late
[09:37] <herve> yo \sh
[09:37] <\sh> I just slept 1 1/2 hours more then expected
[09:38] <herve> no you don't
[09:38] <herve> you need it
[09:39] <\sh> hehe :) if I'm a sarcastic person then I would say now: "Yes MoM" :)
[09:40] <herve> :-)
[09:42] <slomo> \sh: i've recently done the same mistake as you with libatlas-cpp-0.5 ;) damn dh_makeshlibs ;)
[09:42] <\sh> slomo: exactly a b*tch this
[09:47] <\sh> who had the last time "torcs"?
[09:50] <slomo> \sh: how can i test if makeshlibs was called correctly?
[09:51] <\sh> slomo: u don't see any error message in the end of the pbuilder ran, like "can't find lib blablubb.."
[09:52] <slomo> \sh: ok, then it will be fine now...
[09:53] <slomo> herve: you've mail again ;)
[10:01] <herve> slomo, uploaded
[10:02] <slomo> thanks... and sorry for the first one
[10:04] <herve> don't worry, we all make mistakes
[10:05] <\sh> grmpf
[10:05] <\sh> torcs is broken
[10:05] <herve> one day I uploaded a package with dpatch patches
[10:05] <\sh> or i'M too stupid to see the forrest
[10:05] <herve> but I forgot to add dpatch to the dependencies :-)
[10:05] <herve> last time I heard about torcs, there was the data package but not the game package itself
[10:10] <\sh> apokalypse now
[10:11] <herve> you're uploading walkyries to ubuntu? :-)
[10:22] <ajmitch> morning
[10:28] <bddebian> Morning ajmitch
[10:28] <herve> hello ajmitch
[10:29] <Amaranth> "I assume GDM isn't really doing well with my keyboard now as it thinks G is enter"
[10:29] <Lathiat> Amaranth: heh
[10:29] <Amaranth> err, wrong channel
[10:30] <Amaranth> meant to do it in -devel
[10:52] <\sh> slomo: ping
[10:52] <slomo> \sh: pong
[10:52] <\sh> slomo: send me the imms patch to test
[10:54] <Riddell> how does upstream version freeze affect universe?
[10:55] <slomo> \sh: i have no patch atm ;) at least no patch that works on i386... but can you test whether it was just a broken buildd?
[10:55] <bddebian> Riddell: We are supposed to have our merges done :-)
[10:55] <ogra> Riddell, applies there too, but more loosely
[10:55] <bddebian> Riddell: I believe it also means we can't just yank from Debian anymore
[10:55] <\sh> slomo: will test it now :)
[10:55] <bddebian> But I don't know much
[10:56] <siretart> Riddell: we try to not destabilize universe anymore
[10:56] <slomo> \sh: normally it has to build as pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0 takes care of it... otherwise -lX11 will fix this...
[10:57] <siretart> hm. is evolution in hoary supposed to be able to store its calendar files on an webdav enabled apache?
[10:58] <slomo> siretart: no idea... but when you get it working tell me how ;)
[10:58] <bddebian> hehe
[10:58] <siretart> hehe
[10:58] <\sh> slomo: i will test it just now
[10:59] <Riddell> so if review day is tomorrow how does that work with no new upstreams?
[10:59] <herve> nogth all
[11:00] <bddebian> Riddell: All the packages on REVU I think
[11:00] <ogra> Riddell, wats in revu already is ok...
[11:01] <bddebian> Maybe someone will actually look at my stuff.. ;-)
[11:01] <ogra> Riddell, dholbach and i can make exeptions from UVF as well as we can delegate... siretart, ajmitch and \sh were delegates... if you want you can be one too
[11:02] <ogra> its just to have a extra instance that checks ...
[11:03] <ogra> bt Kamion and mdz stand on UVF for universe too, even if we can handle it very loosely
[11:03] <ogra> s/bt/but
[11:05] <bddebian> What does this need:
[11:05] <bddebian> checking for a Motif >= 1002 compatible API... no
[11:05] <bddebian> configure: error: M*tif has not been found
[11:05] <bddebian> make: *** [config.status]  Error 1
[11:05] <bddebian> libmotif?
[11:05] <slomo> bddebian: lesstiff probably
[11:05] <bddebian> Hmm
[11:05] <ogra> libmotif-dev ?
[11:06] <bddebian> lesstif2-dev is already installed
[11:06] <slomo> ok, then test libmotif-dev ;)
[11:06] <bddebian> There is not libmotif-dev that I can see
[11:06] <slomo> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/libmotif-dev
[11:07] <bddebian> However the following packages replace it:
[11:07] <bddebian>   lesstif2-dev lesstif-dev
[11:07] <bddebian> E: Package libmotif-dev has no installation candidate
[11:07] <\sh> bddebian: WRITE CHANGELOGS, PROVIDE DEBDIFFS
[11:07] <slomo> bddebian: hm... the maybe the configure script is broken
[11:08] <\sh> bddebian: I won't upload any package of you anymore without debdiffs
[11:08] <\sh> or written changelogs with your name inside
[11:08] <bddebian> \sh: Everyone keeps telling me NOT to change the changelogs
[11:08] <bddebian> \sh: And debdiff is broken
[11:08] <\sh> bddebian: it's not :)
[11:08] <bddebian> Since when?
[11:08] <\sh> since I'm working with it
[11:08] <\sh> and diff -ur is working as well ;)
[11:08] <bddebian> I tried to upgrade this morning and didn't get a new one :-)
[11:09] <bddebian> I usually diff -Nurp if I change anything, what doesn't have one?
[11:09] <\sh> actually do a `dch -a`
[11:09] <\sh> and add your comments...
[11:10] <\sh> bddebian: and I'm not serious right now , for not uploading :)
[11:10] <\sh> bddebian: I appreciate your work :) but u have to go one level higher now
[11:10] <bddebian> I'm happy to do whatever is necessary if I can get a fscking consistent answer
[11:11] <\sh> bddebian: I'm forced by higher forces to tell you that...actually you have 99.999 points..changelogs with your name and email address would be +1 and you receive more fame and a new life
[11:12] <bddebian> \sh: OK.
[11:13] <\sh> bddebian: smile :)
[11:13] <bddebian> :-)
[11:17] <tritium> bddebian, I noticed you left me as maintainer for python-pyrtf.  Why don't you change that to your name?
[11:17] <\sh> slomo: can we work together?
[11:17] <bddebian> tritium: Because you are da man. :-)
[11:17] <bddebian> WTF is -lxm  ??
[11:18] <ajmitch> how is everyone this morning? :)
[11:18] <bddebian> Err -lXm even
[11:18] <tritium> bddebian, no dude, you are
[11:18] <tritium> good afternoon, ajmitch :)
[11:19] <Riddell> ogra: do I get to be a delegate then?
[11:19] <ogra> sure...
[11:19] <tritium> bddebian, Motif library
[11:20] <Riddell> woo
[11:20] <ogra> heh
[11:20] <tseng> ajmitch: meh
[11:21] <tseng> ajmitch: ever heard of a cisco content switch server?
[11:24] <ajmitch> tseng: can't say I have, layer 7 switch?
[11:24] <tseng> sortof
[11:24] <tseng> its a load balancing appliance
[11:24] <ajmitch> I've heard of some that do caching & the like
[11:24] <tseng> i spent all day staring at its mib
[11:24] <tseng> ajmitch: thats a second box
[11:25] <tseng> Cisco Content Engine is a caching proxy type
[11:25] <ajmitch> netflow?
[11:25] <ajmitch> ah, content engine
[11:25] <tseng> blargh netflow is an entirely other bit
[11:25] <tseng> RMON
[11:25] <tseng> or related
[11:25] <ajmitch> yeah, I haven't dealt much with cisco stuff
[11:25] <tseng> tommorow will be even more painful
[11:25] <ajmitch> all small companies around here that are licky to have a DSL modem
[11:26] <tseng> round table meeting with our CA support staff
[11:26] <ajmitch> s/licky/lucky/
[11:26] <tseng> i am playing the role of axe murderer for the blue team
[11:26] <tseng> heads will roll.
[11:27] <\sh> grrrr
[11:27] <\sh> I don't understand this
[11:29] <bddebian> tritium: What motif library?  Should be lesstiff2-dev?
[11:30] <Lathiat> ajmitch: :)
[11:30] <tritium> libXm.so.2 is a Motif lib, which lesstif2 is an implementation of
[11:31] <bddebian> Then why the hell can't it find it?? :-(
[11:31] <\sh> shit
[11:31] <\sh> sorry..
[11:32] <\sh> have to go to the office...thunderstorm crashed some streams
[11:35] <\sh> so cu later this night rushing into office for an unexpected nightshift
[11:35] <bddebian> Have fun :-)
[11:36] <\sh> will have...believe me :(
[11:49] <slomo> bddebian: which revu-upload do you want to get reviewed first?
[11:49] <bddebian> slomo: I'm not even sure if fpc is worth it.  Someone told me that it's in the archive now
[11:50] <slomo> yes it's in the archive
[11:50] <slomo> ah
[11:50] <slomo> it isn't ;)
[11:50] <slomo> but look at the comment
[11:51] <bddebian> slomo: What comment?
[11:51] <slomo> please tell elmo (James Troup) to sync it from debian if it fixes something for us. Thanks. :)
[11:51] <bddebian> That's the comment?
[11:52] <slomo> yes
[11:52] <bddebian> OK ogra/tritium/sh\ / whoever.  If there are no dropped patches and it builds clean do you still want a changelog entry?
[11:53] <sistpoty> hi folks
[11:53] <bddebian> Heya sistpoty
[11:53] <slomo> bddebian: hmm... 2.0.0-2 is already in breezy ;) and your's is -1
[11:53] <crimsun> if it's just a clean one from mom, it's not necessary to modify the mom changelog
[11:53] <slomo> hi sistpoty
[11:53] <bddebian> slomo: There you go slomo.  Delete it :-)
[11:53] <bddebian> crimsun: OK thx.  I'm holding you to that when \sh yells at me again :-)
[11:53] <slomo> lol ok
[11:54] <ajmitch> hello Mez, sistpoty
[11:54] <Mez> hey
[11:54] <tseng> hi Mez
[11:54] <tritium> dude, you're asking a guy who thought MOM was "master of main"...
[11:54] <tseng> note to all, i probably wont do much hard work here this week
[11:54] <tseng> work is very tiresome
[11:55] <bddebian> tritium: :-)
[11:55] <tritium> bddebian, so I'm not the guy to ask until I get back up to speed :)
[11:55] <bddebian> tseng: You mean you ever do?
[11:55] <Mez> tseng: have you treid building mono from breezy on hoary?
[11:55] <tseng> Mez: i have
[11:55] <Mez> and it works?
[11:55] <tseng> a few months ago i built the mono-live cd
[11:56] <tseng> which we are shipping to thousands of people
[11:56] <tseng> id assume it works.
[11:56] <Mez> lol, and thats on hoary with the current breezy mono version
[11:56] <slomo> tseng: if it's ok with you i can take care of tomboy and monodevelop next week... boo is synced and tomboy doesn't compile atm
[11:56] <tseng> i built one version back iirc
[11:56] <tseng> slomo: you can take care of anything you want, i trust your work
[11:57] <tseng> motu doesnt have a maintainer lock
[11:57] <tseng> i just get my panties in a bunch about backports
[11:57] <tseng> (we're working it out :)
[11:57] <slomo> tseng: sure but both package bugreports are assigned to you ;)
[11:58] <crimsun> tritium: thankfully it's fairly trivial to get back up to speed :)
[11:58] <slomo> bddebian: something else you want to get reviewed ;)
[11:58] <tseng> slomo: indeed.
[11:58] <tseng> slomo: tomboy just needs his build-deps fixed
[11:58] <tseng> monodevelop needs boo in main
[11:58] <tseng> or boo removed
[11:58] <tseng> you cant build dep from main -> universe
[11:58] <tritium> crimsun, yes, hopefully so.
[11:59] <bddebian> slomo: I guess just python-pyrtf :-)
[11:59] <bddebian> Wasn't tomboy on MOTUToMerge also?
[11:59] <slomo> tseng: tomboy also needs a patch, otherwise it fails compiling the c stuff
[11:59] <crimsun> tritium: if you need pointers, ping me. The REPORT is helpful.
[11:59] <tseng> bddebian: i synced it
[11:59] <bddebian> Ah
[11:59] <tseng> slomo: not on debian it doesnt
[11:59] <tseng> but sure
[12:00] <slomo> tseng: why remove boo from monodevelop when it's not in main?
[12:00] <tseng> hm?
[12:00] <tritium> crimsun, thanks, I will.  So you all know, I did finish the Ph.D., but tomorrow the packers/movers come, and we will be moving back to New Mexico.  So I will still have some downtime.
[12:00] <tseng> monodevelop is in main
[12:00] <tseng> boo is not
[12:00] <tseng> you cant have that build-dep
[12:00] <slomo> tseng: oh ok... :( well boo isn't in main yet :(
[12:00] <tseng> right
[12:00] <crimsun> tritium: congrats! :)
[12:00] <bddebian> tritium: WHAT?? :-)
[12:00] <tseng> slomo: need to fix one of the two cases
[12:00] <tritium> crimsun, thanks :)
[12:00] <bddebian> tritium: Congrats again btw :-)
[12:01] <tritium> bddebian, thank you too :)
[12:01] <slomo> tseng: ok, what must i do to get boo into main? ;)
[12:01] <sistpoty> congrats, tritium !