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funkyHatonce you have applied that, reinstall mozilla-firefox, mozilla-firefox-gnome-support, yelp, and mozilla-mplayer (if you had the last two to start with, of course)12:00
Subliminalis there a way to install the j2ee like the sdk/runtime as at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java12:00
aukcyphase: yep!!!12:00
SeveasSubliminal, yes, you can use the j2ee .bin file too12:00
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soothsayerSeveas, I got an error: "Errors were encountered when processing php4-gd2"12:00
benplautfunkyHat: but i lose all my config, right?12:00
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SubliminalSeveas: yeah, but i thought the other way would be nicer12:01
Seveassoothsayer, paste the complete output on the pastebin please12:01
funkyHatbenplaut, you won't loose any of your personal config12:01
benplautk12:01
SeveasSubliminal, 'other way'?12:01
funkyHatit's unlikely that you will loose anything that you'll notice12:01
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sexcopter8000mok, want to try this now, what's the command to restart gnome?12:01
SubliminalSeveas: using make-jpkg12:01
SeveasSubliminal, yes, you can use the j2ee .bin file too <-- with make-jpkg that is12:01
Subliminaloh12:01
Seveassexcopter8000m, <ctrl><alt><backspace>12:01
Seveasthat will IMMEDIATELY kill all your programs12:02
Seveasand restart the X server12:02
SubliminalSeveas: it doesnt seem to like it :-/12:02
sexcopter8000mi tried that earlier. it left me with a command line. do i need a command to reload gnome?12:02
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SeveasSubliminal, you might need to edit one of the make-jpkg files12:02
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funkyHatsexcopter8000m, that should reload gnome automatically12:02
sexcopter8000moh12:02
sexcopter8000m=/12:02
SeveasSubliminal, can you paste the error message and the complete filename on the pastebin please12:02
soothsayerwhat's the pastebin..? :/12:02
soultakerhello to all i have a issue with  gdesklets i can not make to work12:02
pestilencesexcopter8000m: if it doesn't come back, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart12:02
Seveassoothsayer, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:02
soothsayerk12:03
sexcopter8000mok, ty, brb12:03
funkyHatbenplaut, i did the whole firefox shebang earlier on :P12:03
SubliminalSeveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/78412:03
soultakerhello to all i have a issue with  gdesklets i can not make to work anyone can help ,me12:04
soothsayerseveas, output was posted12:04
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benplautfunkyHat: and now... it won't open12:05
sexcopter8000mcool, this time ctrl alt backspace worked (?!?!) and i'm still in 102412:05
funkyHatbenplaut, eek =\12:05
sexcopter8000mso i consider that a successful job, cheers12:05
benplautthat's not a very comforting sound...12:06
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funkyHatbenplaut, do you have lots of extensions?12:07
SeveasSubliminal, it looks like that will require extensive tweeking to /usr/share/java-package/sun-j2sdk.sh12:07
SeveasSubliminal, are you up to that?12:07
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Aron_FigaroHey guys...I have a weird GCC issue. When I go to compile Wine it's telling me "Compiler Cannot Create Executables". Any ideas?12:07
SubliminalSeveas: probably not, especially not at 11pm12:07
benplautfunkyHat: i was hoping that wouldn't be the question...12:07
kyncanisoultaker: gdesklets are broken in hoary i think12:08
Seveassoothsayer, sudo aptitude install libgd2-xpm t1lib112:08
benplautnot many, but an extensive Adblock list12:08
pestilenceAron_Figaro: dumb question, but you *have* gcc, right?12:08
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SeveasSubliminal, then you'll have to wait for someone else to do it. I'll give it a shot tomorrow.12:08
SubliminalSeveas: what sort of things would need doing?12:08
pestilenceAron_Figaro: as in, sudo apt-get install build-essential12:08
soultakerthey dont work mmm bummer12:08
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black13mcphail still here12:08
SubliminalSeveas: that would be great, shall i come back on or will you post it somewhere?12:08
SeveasSubliminal, you would need to do a bit of bash scripting to add j2ee to the detection system12:08
funkyHatbenplaut, i don't know if that's the issue or not, i have LOADS of extensions, including adblock and sessionsaver, and my only issue with the new firefox is it won't close, i have to kill it12:09
SeveasSubliminal, come back in a day or two :)12:09
Aron_Figaropestilence: done.12:09
Aron_Figaropestilence: a long time ago XD12:09
Subliminalok, thx12:09
soothsayerSeveas, it seems to have worked12:09
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Subliminalnight12:09
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bassinboyanyone know a repo i can get transcode off of?12:10
wayne__Hi all12:10
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Aron_FigaroAnyone else have any ideas on that error?12:11
norhtedi tried sudo apt-get install mplayer-k6 to install mplayer,12:11
norhtedbut i got : Package mplayer-k6 is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:11
norhtedThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:11
norhtedis only available from another source12:11
wayne__Does anybody know why mame moans about being built for the wrong arch when installed from the Ubuntu Hoary 64 rep ?12:12
Spud_does anyone know which files i need to get in order to run wine?12:13
Spud_im looking at the repo now...12:13
Aron_FigaroSpud: I'm in the same boat, except trying to compile it.12:13
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Andares>.<12:14
Spud_:(12:14
AndaresHOW?!12:14
Spud_i dont think thatll help12:14
Andareswayne__, Maybe because you don't have the IA64 version.12:14
mcphailblack13: back12:14
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mjrAndares, IA64 is different from AMD64/EM64T, by the way12:15
ubuntuSeveas: him ok heres a link sudo wget http://www.bla.com/bla/bla/programe.tar.gz12:16
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wayne__I have an AMD64 and my apt sources says Release amd6412:16
ubuntuand it don't work12:16
Spud_allright i think i found it...its installing?12:16
ubuntuonly in firefox12:16
othernoobSpud_: Aron_Figaro: apt-get install wine  and apt-get install winesetuptk should be enough12:16
black13mcphail seems like debootstrap is working12:16
wayne__but if I install mame via apt it says wrong arch12:16
Spud_what happens next then?12:16
wayne__how can that happen12:16
mcphailblack13: was it complicated to set up?12:16
Spud_its all set to go12:16
ubuntuSeveas:any clues?12:16
Aron_Figaroothernoob: I'm on AMD64, I have to compile from source, and when it does it says "Compiler cannot create executables" for some strange reason.12:16
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black13no12:17
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black13mcphail apt-get install debootstrap12:17
othernoobAron_Figaro: mmh, asked in #wine-hq ?12:17
soothsayerhrm.. seveas, i believe it installed, but phpinfo() doesn't seem to be showing it12:17
mcphailblack13: minimal environment installed?12:18
black13mcphail debootstrap hoary /chrootdir http://archive.ubuntu.org/???12:18
Andaresmjr, I know. But I had no way of knowing what processor he was running.12:18
AndaresAron_Figaro, Paste the whole error into rafb.net/paste.12:18
mjrAndares, ah, I see12:18
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black13mcphail not as minitimal as i want i am going to bend debootstrap (i have done this before) frew packages ...12:19
wayne__Andares, that's ok I should have said more clearly12:19
AndaresWhat's EM64-T?12:19
AndaresAnd haha@seb128's quit message.12:19
wayne__Andares, Intel's copy of AMD6412:19
joe_hello12:19
AndaresOh.12:19
wayne__Very slightly different12:19
joe_i need to update my Mozzilla12:19
joe_to the latest version as well as its security updates12:20
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mcphailblack13: it's wonderful when apt works really well, isn't it?12:20
joe_how/what is the best way to update my mozzilla12:20
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mjryah, basically just amd64, but they don't want to call it that, for some reason ;)12:20
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black13mcphail dont jump up and down yet xorg doesnt seem to want to install12:20
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black13mcphail inside the chroot i build12:21
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Aron_FigaroAndares: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Y491nM35.html12:21
mcphailblack13: i just want it for a chroot environment without x server12:21
Spud_ok so ive got those two wine packages12:21
bassinboyand one use dvdshrink on ubuntu?12:21
Spud_anyone know what i should do next?12:21
black13mcphail then your good to go12:21
wayne__mjr, is that mjr as in slef12:21
mcphailblack13: excellent. thanks12:21
mjrwayne__, no12:22
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black13mcphail what are you going to use the chroot for?12:22
AndaresWow...12:23
IIIEarsbassinboy - did you see this link for ubuntu and dvdshrink? www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/12:23
AndaresAron_Figaro, I have no clue how to fix that.... Try asking on ##linux.12:23
delireSpud_ so you've downloadd the packages or already installed them? sorry, i was busy.12:23
icewthow can i change the buttons etc. in gtk1 to something more pleasant than the default ones? i've done it before, but don't remember anymore how12:23
joe_hello12:23
joe_can anyone help12:23
MartenHIs there a command line to switch between different keyboard layouts if I have two installed?12:23
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mcphailblack13: not for me. A friend wants to let some people ssh to his box, but wants to be extra secure with his system files.12:24
IIIEarsicewt - system . preferences . themes12:24
delireMartenH modmap12:24
MartenHOr even better to have the USB keyboard interpreted one way and the laptop one another way?12:24
Spud_it tells me i cant access winesetuptk12:24
bassinboyIIIEars: yeah, thanks though, but i want the native one12:24
Spud_but wine is dl'ed and installed12:24
mcphailblack13: could strip out most things from the chroot environment12:24
delireSpud12:24
delireSpud_ and winsetup?12:24
IIIEarsbassinboy - native? - hmm - nice12:24
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delireSpud_ eg'winsetup' and <ENTER>12:25
Spud_i know i sound dumb here but its my first day using ubuntu12:25
Spud_actually any linux at all12:25
delireSpud_ hey no problem. we were all new to Linux once.12:25
Spud_command not found12:25
icewtIIIEars, err.. i don't think that affects gtk112:25
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Spud_i used the packet manager12:25
Spud_if that makes a diff12:25
delireSpud_ hmm, and what about 'wine'?12:26
cs378haha, just went to debian room, they all said ubuntu is better than suse12:26
cs378ok then12:26
cs378i guess u guys r right12:26
cs378lol12:26
Spud_creating directory12:26
MartenHdelire: I think you lost me, in what way can modmap help me?12:26
Spud_and now i see something i havent before12:26
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delireSpud_ perhaps there is no 'winesetup' anymore. perhaps just 'wine' handles all that on first execution.12:27
Aron_FigaroAndares: I just tried, so far nothing.12:27
Spud_hmm ok12:27
Aron_FigaroCan ANYONE make anything of this error: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Y491nM35.html12:27
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MartenHdelire: ok, can i use it to read from the installed keymaps? where are they located?12:27
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Spud_am i going to have to edit a txt file of it?12:28
delireMartenH: i would ask my gf (who uses alternative keymaps) but she is very busy currently. i don't use modmap personally.12:28
delireSpud_ what has happened there?12:28
Spud_well i the help commands12:29
MartenHok, let em know if she needs a break =)12:29
Spud_but dont know what to do with em12:29
delireMartenH: sure ;)12:29
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delireanyone here setup Wine in Ubuntu? it's late here and it's been a long time since i've used wine.12:30
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Spud_heh12:30
delireSpud_ here needs a hand12:30
neo-worldhi all ou "salut" en franais12:30
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Spud_i think i see what i might have to do...install the prog i want to run and type its name after wine12:31
IIIEarsbeinvenue?12:31
redtechanyone know of a really good we hosting software, control panel and what not?12:31
neo-worldmerci thanks12:31
delireSpud_ 'wine windowsprogram.exe' normally does it i think.12:31
neo-world;)12:31
cafuegobonjour a #ubuntu12:31
benplautredtech: Cpanel12:31
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redtechthanks12:31
delireSpud_ sorry i don't use any win32 software other than the odd arcade emulator ;)12:31
benplaut'welcome12:32
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delirehah12:32
kemikdelire:  you need to specify path too unless your in the right place to begin with12:32
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Spud_thank you so much!!12:32
bastiwhat can I use instead of this worthless samba version that is in ubuntu?12:32
delirekemik: not me, Spud_ here12:32
Spud_it works :)12:32
delireSpud_ great ;)12:32
Spud_i think eheh12:32
IIIEarsdelire - Does AMD64 insulate you from bufferoverflows with 32 bit libraries?12:33
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Spud_:) ubuntu owns windows12:33
kemiknot really12:33
delireIIIEars: not as far as i'm aware12:33
delireSpud_ ;)12:33
cafuegowindows? what's that?12:33
kemikubuntu is nice tho12:33
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mjrIIIEars, there's really no reason it would12:33
kemikbut hardware support is ages behind windows12:33
delirecafuego: isn't it an island somewhere?12:34
bastiwhat can I use instead of samba?12:34
IIIEarsSpud -  Ubuntu is amazing if all else were equal and they are not just the customisable look of the interface would make many switch. :)12:34
kemikbasti:  NFS12:34
funkyHatkemik, that's because the hardware manufacturers have little choice but to write drivers for windows12:34
benplautdelire: that covers 90% of the world?12:34
delirekemik: bah not true. try installing XP on very old hardware12:34
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kemikdelire:  at least i got a bunch of CDs with windowsdrivers then ;)12:34
cafuegodelire: I think so, isn't it a few hundred clicks south of antarctica?12:34
bastikemik, what is it called in apt-get?12:34
delirebenplaut: not sure, my atlas doesn't seem to have an entry for it.12:34
benplautahh12:34
delirecafuego: ahah, that'd be it.12:34
neo-worldcan i have any problem to use VLC media player with ubuntu?12:34
Aron_Figarodelire: try installing XP on anything with less than 512 MB of RAM, you mean ;)12:34
delireAron_Figaro: hmmm12:35
cafuegoTry installing XP in under half an hour.12:35
kemikbasti: portmap and some more stuff, think you should follow a How-To, and also NFS only works between *nix OS's12:35
Aron_FigaroLOL @ Cafu :p12:35
IIIEarslol@cafuego12:35
Aron_FigaroSo nobody can make any sense of this error?12:35
kemikbasti: ie; if you got windows on your net, its not a good solution12:35
bastiarf :S12:35
MartenHdelire: No need to disturbe your gf, found them. They are in /usr/share/xmodmap/12:35
Aron_Figarohttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Y491nM35.html12:35
kemikbasti:  dont get samba to work?12:35
Aron_FigaroAnyone? PLEASE! :p12:35
delireMartenH: great ;)12:35
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joe_Has anyone got any idea of the best way to update Mozzilla12:36
kemikfunkyHat:  mhm, its sortof Catch2212:36
Spud_allright i installed my windows irc client brb :)12:36
joe_help12:36
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kemikfunkyHat:  noone uses linux cause hw-support is bad, and noone writes drivers because noone uses linux12:36
IIIEarsjoe_ - the topic has something about it.12:36
kemik(noone = not many .. ; ) )12:36
kemiki bet Spud installed mirc ;)12:36
Aron_FigaroMy mouse just died again. Any ideas why a USB mouse would randomly disable itself after a given amount of time?12:37
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IIIEarskemik - wine mirc?12:37
benplautAron: power in the port fizzling out?12:37
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kemikIIIEars:  why not?12:37
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benplautcircuit breaker in the mouse?12:37
Aron_Figaroben: nope, it's not hardware. I've only ever had this happen since installing Hoary.12:37
Aron_FigaroI doubt it's hardware.12:38
neo-worldwhat kind of mouse do you use?12:38
benplauthmm12:38
Aron_FigaroM$ Intellimouse, USB.12:38
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neo-worldthe brand partuculary12:38
benplautthat explains :P12:38
IIIEars!mouse12:38
ubotuhmm... mouse is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons12:38
wayne__Aron, same thing happens to my keyboard whenever I unplug my plantronics headset12:38
Aron_FigaroWeird.12:38
Prozaccan somebody help me get my ipod shuffle working with gtkpod?12:38
benplautmy intellimouse works just fine...12:38
confreyhi everybody12:38
Aron_FigaroSo it's like when I turn on my printer and the whole system locks? Bad driver?12:38
wayne__intellimouse here as well, no probs12:38
bastikemik, samba sais I got no rights even though it isnt pass protected ;S12:39
IIIEars"" intellimouse - more buttons on it than fingers on one hand. - lol12:39
benplautthe few peics of hardware MS makes are actually quite good...12:39
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Aron_FigaroI just stuck a PS/2 adapter on it. Fixed. ;)12:39
bastiand just 1 pc finds the other.. very strange12:39
MezSeveas: you awake?12:39
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benplautAron: that tends to work :P12:39
wayne__yeh the keyboards are pretty good, but I prefer my laptop style one (made by coolermaster)12:40
Aron_Figarolol12:40
Prozaccan somebody help me get my ipod shuffle working with gtkpod?12:40
benplauti actually prefer my laptop keyboard to a desktop keyboard12:40
IIIEars!gtkpod12:40
ubotuIIIEars: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about12:40
benplautThinkpad...12:40
IIIEars!ipod12:40
ubotufrom memory, ipod is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IPodHowto12:40
IIIEarsdid that help?12:41
kemikbasti: you got how many pcs?12:41
kemikbasti: you can ping their IP addys etc?12:41
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wayne__benplaut, search for the coolermaster CM gear keyboard then12:41
benplautWHY the HELL did i ever decide to update my perfectly good firefox 1.04?!?!12:41
wayne__laptop stype but with keypad, I love mine12:41
wayne__cost 18 in UK12:41
wayne__looks the biz and is nice and heavy, bezel is metal12:42
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cafuegobenplaut: it's not a higher version number so it's gotta be better and faster lolol!12:42
benplauthumph12:42
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benplautnot funny12:43
delirehehe12:43
cafuegoit's funny in MY head12:43
kemikgo back to the older version ?12:43
benplautYOUR head with a working firefox?12:43
Prozaccan somebody help me get my ipod shuffle working with gtkpod?12:43
benplautyes, i suppose i can12:43
delirebenplaut: firefox is a bit irritating like this12:43
cafuegobenplaut: yes, my firefox works fine.12:43
benplautbut now that i've started, my conscience tells me to finish the job12:44
IIIEarsbenplaut - someone had trouble after updating to 1.06 with their printer segfaulting anyone else see that?12:44
delirebenplaut 1.0.4 works fine here also.12:44
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:crimsun] : Official Ubuntu Help channel | Firefox should be fixed; if you use backports: disable it and uninstall "firefox" (not mozilla-firefox) before updating | FAQs & User Documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation | Have a question? Just ask! | Please don't paste in here; use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl | DO NOT USE BREEZY YET | Support information: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/ | Wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com | Backports now official!
crimsund'oh, limit reached.12:44
delirelol12:44
cafuegotopic spammer ;-)12:44
Prozacwhy is gtkpod so hard to use?12:45
kemikouch12:45
benplautbacuase it's trying to interface with Apple products?12:45
wayne__lol12:45
delirecrimsun: as you are most in the know where Ubuntu and sound is concerned, what is the plan for Breezy and sound? dmix perhaps?12:45
MezProzac, cause it has technolog to get past before it can add the bling12:46
IIIEars"Backports now official"? - erm what does that mean? - won't there still be problems with future upgrades if you usse it?12:46
benplauti heard that it's fixed, and something like "Alsa Mix"12:46
Burgundaviadelire, dmix already enabled12:46
delireBurgundavia: right, ok good.12:46
BurgundaviaIIIEars, shouldn't be. offiicial means that they are on archive.ubuntu.com12:46
wayne__lets just go back to ESD....lol12:46
delireno!!!12:46
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delirethe 'Not So Enlightened Sound Daemon'12:46
IIIEarsBurgundavia - Ah - thanks.12:46
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wayne__used to love the way it made the noise about half an hour after it was supposed to12:47
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benplauthrrmph12:47
benplautstill no firefox12:47
delirewayne__: it's always a pain in the ass12:47
Xyc0why so much for firefox tho?12:48
LasseLbenplaut, i just updated firefox12:48
Xyc0it's not overly complicated prog12:48
benplautfor me, it is12:48
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black13mcphail got xorg to work12:49
joe_which topic12:49
joe_can no one help me in updating mozzilla?12:50
kemikjoe_:  maybe you shouldnt update12:50
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joe_i need the PSM12:50
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joe_so i can view secure sites12:51
crimsundelire, dmix was enabled by default some months ago. Breezy will ship with it.12:51
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joe_its because i require PSM (Personla Security Manager) that i wish to update my version of mozzilla12:51
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joe_any ideas12:51
delirecrimsun: right, excellent.12:51
benplautcontrary to popular beleif, Dillo is actaully slow as hell12:51
kemikjoe_:  Mozilla Firefox?12:52
IIIEarsDmix - nice12:52
moparfan90hello. does anyone know PYTHON very good? i need a little help. please help me12:52
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deliremoparfan90: perhaps i can help12:52
kemikor try  a #python channel12:52
deliremoparfan90: though #python is a good resource.12:52
moparfan90delire, do you have AIM  or ICQ??12:52
joe_umm.. not firefox12:52
deliremoparfan90: neither12:52
joe_Just mozzilla the web browser12:52
bogaanyone succesfully using apache on ununtu? I have failed to get it running even after installing all the Apache2.0.x packages!12:52
moparfan90o12:53
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moparfan90can we talk somewhere with less people?12:53
delireboga: what does http://localhost in the browser give you?12:53
kemikjoe_:  ok.. dunno how to upgrade that one12:53
kemikboga:  /etc/init.d/apache start12:53
moparfan90kemik, what server is #python on?12:53
deliremoparfan90: it's nearly 1am here, soon i will leave. i would try #python for sustained support unless the question is quick.12:53
kemikmoparfan90:  EFnet12:53
bogajust a sec12:54
moparfan90ok12:54
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joe_thanx anyway12:54
moparfan90how do i run a .py on ubuntu?12:54
deliremoparfan90: python file.py12:54
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joe_i'll check in another forum12:54
joe_bye12:54
kemikbye12:54
moparfan90ok12:54
moparfan90thank12:54
bogadelire: It says An error occurred while loading http://127.0.0.1/: Could not connect to host 127.0.0.1. !!12:54
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benplautoh, great12:55
LED_scorcheddoes any one know if ubuntu suports the PNY Verto video Card?12:55
benplautyour computer is supposed to be schizo, but it's not12:55
delireboga: odd. have you '/etc/init.d/apache start' as kemik suggests?12:55
bogakemik: It says..."apache is not executable, not starting"12:55
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cafuegoand it woudn't help much with apache2 anyway.12:55
moparfan90kemik, is EFnet  irc.efnet.com or something else?12:55
delireahah apache212:55
bogadelire: or should I use apache 1.3 instead?12:56
benplautOK, what am i doing wrong.12:56
DekaPinkHey all... Whenever I try to burn CDs in K3b or gnomebaker, they always seem to fail right at the end when they're fixating or whatever. :312:56
kemikmoparfan90:  .org is my guess12:56
delireboga: '/etc/init.d/apache2 start'12:56
moparfan90 o12:56
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pippijnhi all12:56
DekaPinkThe CDs seem to work just fine, though... I just don't know if it causes any problems, I guess.12:56
benplauti did completel uninstalls of firefox, mozilla-firefox, and mozilla-firefox-gnome-support12:56
kemikmoparfan90:  www.efnet.org <- for serverlist12:56
pippijnI get connection attempts from the NTP servers I use for synchronizing my time. Why do they do that?12:56
benplautthen i disabled backport12:56
moparfan90thanks kemik12:57
pippijnevery minute or so they all try12:57
bogadelire: that returns nothing and still cannot connect!12:57
pippijneach of the 412:57
benplautthen i reinstalled mozilla-firefox, mozilla-mplayer, etc12:57
benplautand nothing12:57
crimsunpippijn, that's how the protocol functions. It's normal.12:57
kemikpippijn:  you dont request them to? in order to sync. your clock12:57
delireboga: well no idea. what does 'dpkg -l | grep apache' give you?12:57
LasseLbenplaut, try installing "ubuntu-desktop"12:57
LED_scorcheddoes ubuntu support PNY video cards?12:57
pippijncrimsun: but the port 123 is not forwarded from my NAT, how can the servers then reach my port 123?12:57
delireLED_scorched: see the supported hardware list on the Ubuntu wiki12:57
benplautLasseL: k12:57
bogadelire: gives me so much stuff...may I post it in #flood?12:58
LasseLbenplaut, i am no expert, but it worked for me12:58
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crimsunpippijn, it doesn't need to be forwarded if the connection originated from you12:58
benplautk12:58
delireboga: sure12:58
pippijnhm12:58
bogaOk12:58
pippijncrimsun: do I need to allow the servers to connect?12:58
wayne__LED_scorched: It doesn't matter who makes them, it's the chipset that counts12:58
kemikpippijn:  its already an established connection12:58
wayne__if it is nvidia it will work12:58
crimsunpippijn, it's best that you do, but it's not vital.12:58
moparfan90does anyone know how i can make a python script a cool looking pogram? not in console?12:58
pippijnkemik: I have a firewall that blocks it12:58
pippijncrimsun: why is it better?12:59
bogadelire: posted12:59
crimsunpippijn, because the more clocks that are synced, the lower jitter there is12:59
pippijnI'm not following you12:59
pippijnthe server should know the time itself no?12:59
pippijnwhy does it want to look at me what time I have?01:00
pippijnand what is jitter?01:00
moparfan90does anyone know how o make a python script a stand alone program for linux and windows??????01:00
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pippijnmoparfan90: you can't01:00
pippijnit's impossible to make a standalone program that runs on both linux and windows01:00
moparfan90i think you can... i saw a program .... but i dont remember the url01:00
moparfan90well with just one of them?01:01
pippijna python gui script?01:01
pippijnwhy not ask #python?01:01
LasseLmoparfan90, get the source code for ipodder.sf.net01:01
moparfan90ok01:01
pippijncrimsun: what is jitter?01:01
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LasseLipodder is crossplatform, looks great and is written i python01:02
holycowpippijn, not exactly true, some bastardized .net apps can have perfect cross compatability, but i think i see your general point :)01:02
moparfan90oo ok cool01:02
crimsunpippijn, variations in the signal, in this context01:02
pippijnokay01:02
delireboga: i notice you don't have several apache2 dependencies satsfied however, like apache2-mpm-worker,  apache2-mpm-prefork, apache2-mpm-perchild01:02
pippijnholycow: .net apps... are those standalone?01:03
pippijnnot needing any libs or so01:03
pippijninterpreters01:03
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bogadelire: I will try the version 1.3.01:03
mcphaildelire: i don't have these and apache2 works perfectly01:03
delireboga: that's what i use.01:03
holycowcan be, mono on linux has the intention to provide binary compatability with a chunk of .net01:03
LasseLmoparfan90, be aware though, that python is as heavy and slow as java imho01:03
deliremcphail: right.. here on debian these come up as dependencies01:03
holycowlots of python/wxwidgets and other types of cross platform toolkits01:03
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holycowthat are not only cross platform for win/lin but many other platforms as well01:04
crimsunLasseL, I think you need to qualify that statement ;)01:04
holycowmany ways to slice a horse01:04
holycow:)01:04
delirehmm wxpython, what a lovely thing that is.01:04
pippijnholycow: this sounds like java01:04
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pippijnbut you need the VM for it01:04
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pippijnI can say... okay there is compatibility because I can run picture publisher in vmware01:04
pippijnor paint shop pro in crossover office or wine01:05
holycowpippijn, of course, but the key difference sans the requirement for windows01:05
holycowwhere windows is a platform01:05
delireLasseL: it's not heavy and slow at all. just don't use an interpreted language where an interpreted language shouldn't be used. i code in python daily, and when i want to optomise i compile *pyc, and if i need more juice, C.01:05
holycowor gimp on windows, mac and linux01:05
holycowbtw, gtk has decent windows support01:05
pippijnholycow: that is a bad example01:05
pippijngimp needs to be recompiled for each01:05
pippijngimp.exe and gimp (mach executable and linux ELF executable)01:06
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holycowwell if you want to slice it that way, okay :)01:06
mcphailapache2-common apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils libapache2-mod-php4 work well here01:06
holycowyour still right that in general apps are not compatible01:06
deliremcphail: right01:06
JingleBellsany ideas how to get vmware in windows to boot into my ubuntu linux partition01:07
cafuegomcphail: yes, i think the issue was that boga didn't have the ACTUAL apache binary, only the cools and libs from -common.01:07
JingleBellsit moans about not being able to find /dev/console01:07
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pippijnJingleBells: use the whole disk01:07
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delirecafuego: <boga> ii  apache2        2.0.53-5ubuntu next generation, scalable,01:07
pippijn?01:07
pippijnhuh?01:07
JingleBellsah, not just my partition01:07
delirecafuego: from #flood01:07
pippijnit can't find the console01:07
pippijnJingleBells: that did not work for me01:08
mcphailcafuego: I dont have the base apache2 package either. No problems without it01:08
cafuegodelire: apache2 != apache2-mpm-prefork01:08
pippijnjust the partition didn'T work01:08
pippijnfor me...01:08
delirecafuego: as i said..01:08
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citrus_whats the command for beep media player01:08
citrus_?01:08
citrus_?01:08
Mobusbmp i beleive01:08
pippijncitrus_: bmp01:08
mcphailIIRC, the prefork is the version which actually _works_01:08
Mobusdon't trust me though01:08
delirecafuego: these are depends, at least here on debian. apache2-mpm-worker (= 2.0.54-4)  apache2-mpm-prefork (= 2.0.54-4) apache2-mpm-perchild (= 2.0.54-4).01:09
pippijndo trust him01:09
pippijnhe is right01:09
Mobuscool for once01:09
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delirecafuego: why ubuntu didn't pull them down with a simple apt-get install apache2 i don't know.01:09
pippijn:)01:09
cafuegodelire: Coz it can only have *one* of those and which one depends on what you intend to do with it. it *has* to have user intervention.01:09
mcphaildelire: i think these are just variant threading models for the httpd daemon. I'm sure the prefork version is the only stable one, however01:10
delirecafuego: ahah..01:10
delirecafuego: mcphail: shows i still use 1.3 eh ;)01:10
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citrus_apt get shows that beep media player is install   but... bmp  = command not found01:10
[SteveB] heya people...01:10
cafuegodelire: Ie: the prefork one is most used coz it works with php4 (which depends on non-threadsafe libs). The other may or may not improve performance for non-php4 servers.01:10
mcphaildelire: i don't use it for anything that couldn't be done in 1.301:10
JingleBellsi get http://www.pete-b.co.uk/pics/vmware.jpg as my errors01:11
delirerighty.. interesting.01:11
JingleBellsjust tried booting into partition aswell01:11
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delirethis new request/response filtering in apache2 looks tempting though.01:11
NikopolQuick question. Why does creating a CD image in the Nautilus burner aslmost hang X?01:11
JingleBellstried partition and whole drive01:11
cafuego(coz stupid lusers insist on using mod_forntpage)01:11
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pippijnheh01:11
delirecafuego: how and when do you loadshare across either?01:11
pippijncitrus_: bmp is on freebsd01:12
pippijncitrus_: it's beep-media-player01:12
cafuegodelire: I don't.01:12
delirecafuego: ok01:12
cafuegodelire: The ones that want FP get a vhost on 1.3.x01:12
MobusHAH!01:12
delirecafuego: gotcha01:12
alexander_hey I'm trying to set up ndiswrapper. I'm running the current linux-686 kernel and when I install ndiswrapper-utils I'm getting only a 386 kernel and I can't modprobe it?01:12
MobusI told you not to trust me01:12
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cafuego*safely* away from 2.001:12
pippijnMobus: you would have been right on freebsd01:12
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delirehehe, this is what i've heard01:12
Mobusbut this ubuntu, not BSD01:12
pippijnyeah01:13
Mobustrust me, I'm always wrong01:13
vader1102grrrrrrrrr anyone nkow how I can get my sound working under warty?01:13
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Mobusthat's why I got ubuntu01:13
Mobuswarty ?01:13
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benplautARRRGGGHH!!01:13
Nikopolvader1102: not working at all or only in games?01:13
kemikvader1102:  upgrade to hoary ;)01:13
Mobusvader1102 what's your problem?01:13
pippijnwhy warty?01:13
delirevader1102: upgrade to hoary perhaps?01:13
benplautthis firefox issue is very annoying01:13
pippijnhoary is almost stable01:13
kemikhoary is stable01:14
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Nikopolindeed01:14
vader1102I would but no blank cd's01:14
delirebenplaut: what _isn't_ working?01:14
NikopolBreezy is the unstable one01:14
pippijnit's not officially stable yet01:14
delirevader1102: hehe01:14
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benplautthe real question... what _is_?01:14
pippijnhoary is testing if you can call it so01:14
benplautnothing is working01:14
pippijnwarty is stable01:14
Mobusvader1102: order CDs, you don't need to brun them01:14
pippijnbut it doesn't work01:14
pippijnwell01:14
delirevader1102: you can upgrade without burning off hoary.01:14
benplauttype firefox in the terminal, and nothing happens01:14
pippijnnot for me that is01:14
benplautno errors or anything01:14
pippijnbenplaut: give up and get opera01:15
Nikopolhoary is better than warty for me01:15
pippijnI had that issue with a friend's pc01:15
pippijnnothing helped01:15
benplautmeh\01:15
pippijntried everything01:15
delirebenplaut: perhaps try (if you don't have any bookmarks or other settings you need) 'rm -fr ~/.firefox'01:15
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vader1102so I am stuck... it tells me sorry no mixer elements and or devices01:15
pippijnbenplaut: you can try the things we tried01:15
benplauti did01:15
crimsunvader1102, what sound device?01:15
phlaegelanybody using breezy and tried to change any keyboard layout options?01:15
pippijnbenplaut: try /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox01:16
MAPDSlipaway172?01:16
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vader1102the sound on my dell laptop, latitude cpi01:16
vader1102p2 36601:16
pippijnbenplaut: try with --no-shm01:16
pippijnehm01:16
pippijn--no-xshm01:16
benplautpippijn: it is busy for a sec, then it just goes back to the terminal01:16
benplautnuttin happens01:16
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pippijnsame was with us01:17
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mmoscosadoes anybody knows why i cant send or ecieve files through amsn?!?!01:17
pippijnbenplaut: try --no-xshm and -safe-mode and the 4 combinations of those01:17
pippijnso either off and reverse and both on01:17
Nikopolmmoscosa: doesnt' work well under windows either IIRC01:17
pippijn3 combinations01:17
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NikopolI can get files but it's excuciatingly slow through gaim01:18
NikopolI tend to give up and ask to get them emailed to gmail.01:18
delirebenplaut: if i were you i would delete all local firefox settings and then start up. i bet it's an issue with user registration.01:18
pippijnNikopol: things are slow if you don't do a direct connection01:18
mmoscosaNikopol: is there a fast way?01:18
pippijnwhich needs you to have a hundred of ports open01:18
benplautpippijn: AHA! thanks, that worked01:18
mmoscosaNikopol i am using ubuntu...01:18
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moparfan90bye. thanks people. :)01:19
pippijnbenplaut: really?01:19
Nikopolmmoscosa:01:19
pippijnit didn't work for us01:19
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benplautyup01:19
pippijnthat's just all we tried01:19
Nikopoldon't think so01:19
benplautafter i force killed firefox-bin01:19
mmoscosaNikopol what?!01:19
benplauti think the problem was that it was open in the background the whole time01:19
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delirebenplaut: oh01:19
dam_can i use modprobe to activate a  ISA soundcard?01:19
pippijnhm01:19
pippijnokay01:19
pippijnthat is a different problem than we had01:20
crimsunvader1102, sudo modprobe snd_cs423601:20
Nikopolpippijn: you mean a direct connection not from behind a NA?T01:20
pippijnI still don't know what it is01:20
crimsundam_, yes01:20
cafuegodam_: Probably; is it an isapnp one?01:20
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benplautso... now i can lock the package and re-enable backports?01:20
pippijnNikopol: yes or have all the ports it needs to connect to forwarded01:20
Nikopolpippijn: I think the ports were open but was behind a NAT01:20
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pippijnNikopol: open but not forwarded01:21
Nikopolaha01:21
Nikopolmaybe01:21
vader1102crimsun:fatal error no such device01:21
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benplautand my favorite forums just got /.'ed       :/01:21
pippijncan people here try sshign to xinutec.mine.nu:22?01:21
vader1102but I have a small amount of sound....hmmmmmmm01:21
cafuegodelire: killall <appname>01:21
delirecafuego: sometimes ;)01:21
cafuegodelire: kill  -9 -101:21
crimsunvader1102, isapnp=0 ?01:22
delirecafuego: yes01:22
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cafuegoAnd of course there's always good old [RESET]  ;-)01:22
mmoscosabrb01:22
delirehehe01:22
pippijncafuego: of you are desperate... killall -9 -101:22
pippijn;)01:22
vader1102crimsun: how do I find out?01:22
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pippijncan someone try my SSH?01:22
pippijnxinutec.mine.nu port 2201:22
alex88please help01:22
delirepippijn: jesus, you're brave01:22
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alex88what are the difference from hoary and warty ?01:22
pippijnhrm01:22
pippijngood thanks01:23
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cafuegopippijn: it's either slow or not working.01:23
crimsunvader1102, try sudo modprobe snd_cs4236 isapnp=001:23
delirepippijn: nothing yet01:23
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pippijnyou can stop01:23
pippijnit doesn't work01:23
delirepippijn: want me to nmap -sT you?01:23
mcphailpippijn: weneed the root password ;p01:23
pippijndelire: what does that do?01:23
alex88it's like stable and testing in debian ?01:23
alex88wich is more recently ?01:23
cafuegodelire: if you do that, I'l;l start ping -s 2048 -f01:23
delirehehe01:23
pippijnpings will hang at my NAT01:24
pippijnwell01:24
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pippijnanyways,01:24
alex88anyone...01:24
vader1102crimsun: fatal error, no such device01:24
alex88what are the difference from hoary and warty ?01:24
cafuegopippijn: Even if they're 2Kb in size and go at 1000 pings per sec?01:24
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pippijncafuego: maybe you will ping my NAT down01:24
pippijnso what?01:24
alex88what are the difference from hoary and warty ?01:24
crimsunvader1102, you may have to specify all the irq and dma values01:24
delirecrimsun: an upgrade to hoary wouldn't improve his situation?01:25
MartenHhow can I alternate between calling something.se and something.us with the same command?01:25
pippijnI will be disconnected but you won't get access to my system01:25
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vader1102okay, I specified irq7 but do not know how to go about doing the dma01:25
funkyHatalex88, hoary is simply a more recent version01:25
pippijnbesides...01:25
Slipaway172pippijn, LOL01:25
cafuegopippijn: Depends, if it's a linux box it'll be fine.01:25
pippijnisn't 2KB too much?01:25
MartenHsimilar to xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodap.$TEST && TEST=($TEST==se ? us : se) ...but working01:25
pippijncafuego: it's a HW router01:25
alex88funkyHat, and warty ?01:25
funkyHatis older ;)01:25
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=== pippijn too ^_^
delireMartenH: you can put these xmodmap files in ~/ ;)01:26
cafuegoUsed on someone in a computerlab who was playing a celine dion cd :-)01:26
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cafuegoThe mac stopped crashing when the cd stopped... odd.01:26
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pippijnnow I would like to know why my SSH server to which I forward the port is trying to connect through some very high ports to those people who SSHed to me01:26
alex88doesn't exist a unstable/testing branch like in debian ?01:26
delirecafuego: a just application if ever i've heard one.01:26
alex88anyway thx for help01:26
dam_crimsun, cafuego : i believe it to be. BIOS recognises it. and there are no IO conflicts.01:26
pippijn40529 and so01:27
brad[] Hello all, I'm using an Acer 2304 and trying to set up the built-in wifi. it's using an InProcomm IPN2220 wireless NIC - most suggestions lately revolve around using ndiswrapper, but I've seen this suggested even though native drivers exist on some notebooks. Has anyone gotten this model wireless NIC going?01:27
pippijndoes anyone know?01:27
MartenHdelire: BU moving them doesn't help woth my problem...?01:27
cafuegopippijn: Those are prolly the port we're connecting *from*01:27
pippijnwell01:27
cafuegopippijn: Let me see..01:27
delireMartenH: i'm not up to date on your problem.01:27
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dam_what or how to a modprobe?01:28
cafuegopippijn: Got one to a port 40580 atm?01:28
pippijncafuego: port 40580, source = my ssh server, destination = your host, protocol TCP01:28
pippijnyep01:28
cafuegopippijn: yes, 40580 is the port on my box I'm coming FROM.01:28
pippijnoh01:28
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pippijnso what can I do?01:28
Slipaway172like WTF is going on01:28
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MartenHdelire. I want to set up xbindleys so that each time I press ctrl-Alt-s it alternates between two xmodmap files01:28
cafuegopippijn; Set the firewall to allow '-m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED'01:29
blmartin777I can't get mpc to play any ideas01:29
MartenHdelire: my attempt was xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodap.$TEST && TEST=($TEST==se ? us : se)  .. which failed01:29
cafuegopippijn: ie: tell it to allow any packates that are part of an already established connection.01:29
cafuegopackets, too01:29
pippijnokay01:29
pippijninbound or outbound?01:29
cafuegoboth01:30
pippijnokay01:30
pippijnhow would that rule look like?01:30
cafuegotogether with ip_conntrack_ftp that will allow you to ftp in, too.01:30
pippijncafuego: I don't run FTP01:30
cafuegopippijn: iptables -A INPUT -i <iface> -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT01:30
dam_brb. putting ISApnp soundcard in. someone will be able to help me get it working?01:30
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pippijncafuego: can you try again?01:31
crimsundelire, it's hard to say. He could try the alsa-source package in universe prior to dist-upgrading to Hoary.01:31
cafuegoStill nuffin01:31
pippijnstill not01:31
pippijnokay wait01:31
cafuegopippijn: iptables -A OUTPUT -o <iface> -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT01:31
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mazzabrer...01:32
cafuegopippijn: or mebbe allow outgoing from sport tcp 2201:32
mazzabrexcuse me.01:32
pippijnwait01:32
mazzabrcould anybody please send me a copy of a original file from ubuntu hoary??01:32
pippijncafuego: again01:32
pippijnnope01:32
mazzabrI think I've found a bug.01:32
pippijnagain01:32
pippijnhuh?01:32
pippijnI did as you said01:33
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pippijniptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT01:33
cafuegoIt's getting blocked somewhere, still.01:33
cafuegopippijn: Did you allow outgoing too?01:33
pippijnhm01:33
pippijnno01:33
mazzabr/etc/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree8601:33
pippijn-A OUTPUT?01:33
cafuegopippijn: ... and are there any rules before that, which might be rejecting packets?01:33
mazzabrcan anybody please send this file to me?01:33
cafuegopippijn: -A OUTPUT -o01:33
pippijndone01:33
pippijncafuego: try again01:33
pippijnmeh01:34
pippijnI don't get it01:34
cafuegopippijn: flush the output rules; set the policy to ACCEPT01:34
pippijnok01:34
IFRFLYRokay this is *massively* weird: in galeon AND FF when I go to php.net/in_array, I cannot see any of the examples, just the backgrounds.01:34
naliothquote capab identify-msg01:34
cafuegoIFRFLYR: Font problem.01:34
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cafuegoIFRFLYR: Choose a different font and see it magically work.01:34
Slipaway172nalioth, how do you do those wierd comments>?\01:35
cafuegonalioth: Poor thing, anything we can do to change that?01:35
IFRFLYRcafuego: sounds lovely - choose a different in WHAT and it will magically work?01:35
IFRFLYR;)01:35
pippijncafuego: done that01:35
cafuegoIFRFLYR: font in firefox01:35
mazzabrcan anybody send the original file /etc/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree86 to me?01:35
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IFRFLYRcafuego...here goes nothin:01:35
roothey everyone... two questions.01:35
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Slipaway172?01:35
nemsI compiled my kernel and now I can't type at the command prompt when it boots up.01:35
cafuegoIFRFLYR: I think my issue was that msttcorefonts were interfering with another copy of Times.01:35
nemsI need to know how to get the default kernel image from the cd back installed....01:35
pippijncafuego: that disconnected me01:36
naliothSlipaway172: what weird comments are you speaking of ? you can try /me flops cafuego with a ford pickup01:36
pippijnroot@xinutec:~# iptables -A OUTPUT -j ACCEPT01:36
pippijnroot@xinutec:~# iptables -A INPUT -j ACCEPT01:36
pippijnthat01:36
naliothcafuego: the format_identify script aint workin01:36
cafuegopippijn: iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT; iptables -F OUTPUT01:36
pippijndone01:36
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cafuegopippijn: Adding rules AFTER other rules in my cases won't do much.01:36
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cafuegos/my/many/01:37
blmartin777need help with moc01:37
blmartin777mpc01:37
pippijncafuego: I did iptables --flush01:37
pippijnthen I did your rule01:37
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Slipaway172OoOooh thanks01:37
crimsunblmartin777, what's wrong with mpc?01:37
cafuegonalioth: Must be an irssi version issue.01:37
pippijncafuego: can you try again?01:37
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IFRFLYRcafuego...yeah, see, that didn't work...:(01:37
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IFRFLYRcafuego...yeah, see, that WORKED. Thanks!! :)01:38
nemsI need to know how to get the default kernel image from the cd back installed.... I recompiled the kernel and now I cant type01:38
cafuegoIFRFLYR: ANyway, bool in_array("needle", $haystack);01:38
cafuegopippijn: no joy01:38
pippijn:(01:38
IFRFLYRLOL cafuego, thanks01:38
naliothcafuego: well, the SOB worked earlier01:38
pippijnit seems impossible01:38
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pippijncafuego: you know what I am doing?01:38
gooktimehmm, if I move from my onboard sound to an audigy 2 or something, can I just re-run the hardware detection/setup somehow?01:38
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pippijnit's like this:01:39
cafuegonalioth: You BROKE it!01:39
pippijnI have a NAT and two computers on it01:39
blmartin777crimsun, it won't play01:39
pippijn192.168.0.123 and 192.168.0.12401:39
crimsungooktime, you can just disable your onboard via the bios setting01:39
gooktimeyeah, I mean in ubuntu01:39
pippijnthe port 22 is forwarded from the NAT to .12301:39
crimsungooktime, your audigy2 will be picked up automatically01:39
pippijnthen, I set in .123 to forward 22 to .12401:39
paulproteusgooktime: Automatically.01:39
gooktimethat's excellent :)(01:39
paulproteusAutomagically, I meant.01:39
blmartin777it starts for a millisecond and then stops01:39
crimsungooktime, though you'll need to unmute the 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack'01:39
pippijncafuego: is that at all possible?01:39
Mezhehe: http://www.sourceguru.net/article/19/google-porn01:40
cs378if i install ubuntu in dual mode, i can uninstall it without any problems right?01:40
cafuegopippijn: Sure. But the question begs: why?01:40
crimsunblmartin777, I need more detail.01:40
naliothcafuego: yes, it joins my dead iBook G401:40
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dam_ok so i have a creative ISA sound card, using IRQ 5, DMA 1,5. what now?01:40
cafuegonalioth: Can you swap that for a new one?01:40
paulproteusnalioth: Aww, how did it break?01:40
hihi5anyone ever download ringtones or java games to an LG phone using linux?  send me a msg01:40
pippijncafuego: because I can't seem to be able to set up a NAT in linux properly so 22 is forwarded to 172.16.200.12401:40
cs378help with my question plz01:40
cafuegopippijn: Does it work OK when you just redirect from therrouter to .124 directly?01:40
paulproteuscs378: Depends.  What's your question?01:40
naliothcafuego: it is under APP, at most i'll get a 'new' refurb01:40
poningrucs378: whats the problem?01:40
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naliothpaulproteus: heat kills01:41
poningruoh01:41
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cs378if i install ubuntu in dual mode, i can uninstall it without any problems right?01:41
paulproteusnalioth: Do you know what it killed, though?01:41
cafuegonalioth: WHich revision was it?01:41
poningrucs378: yes you can uninstall it without problem01:41
blmartin777crimsun, I have a playlist the songs are there but when I run 'mpc play' it acts like it start but stops right away01:41
Prozacok....before i do anything drastic, can someone please explain to me as to why linux is better than windows?01:41
nemsI need to know how to get the default kernel image from the cd back installed.... I recompiled the kernel and now I cant type01:41
cs378ok thx u01:41
naliothpaulproteus: extended operation in a high heat environment01:41
cs378sry for being such a newbie01:41
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naliothcafuego: its a iBook G4 1.2ghz early 200401:41
poningrucs378: np we were all noobs once01:41
cs378:)01:41
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cafuegonalioth: Okay, I think mine's the version after that.01:41
dam_ok so i have a creative ISA sound card, using IRQ 5, DMA 1,5. what now?01:41
paulproteusnalioth: You insensitive clod, I have an early 2004 *1* Ghz ibook!01:42
poningrucontrary to what others will tell you01:42
poningruhahahaha01:42
cafuegonalioth: I have a friend who had 14" early '04 model, which died too. She got a completely new one.01:42
dam_what do i modprobe?01:42
paulproteusdam_: sb01:42
paulproteussnd-sb01:42
paulproteusrather.01:42
naliothcafuego: we'll see01:42
paulproteusEither snd-sb or snd-sb1601:42
Prozacok....before i do anything drastic, can someone please explain to me as to why linux is better than windows?01:42
cafuegonalioth: .. hers had had other issue too, busted mobo, busted hd...01:42
poningrucs378: do you know how to setup the dual boot?01:42
HrdwrBoBProzac: because it's Free and free01:43
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dam_dam@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe snd-sb01:43
cs378no01:43
dam_Password:01:43
dam_FATAL: Module snd_sb not found.01:43
naliothcafuego: i replaced the HD in my G3 ibook, apple replaced the mobo in the G3 ibook01:43
cs378poningru: no01:43
kemikProzac:  depends on your needs really, but for one, its free01:43
naliothcafuego: the G3 soldiers on01:43
paulproteussnd-sb16 , maybe, dam_.01:43
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: Who would I mail about mirroring that iso at vicnet?01:43
poningru!dualboot01:43
ubotuit has been said that dualboot is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38398 or ask me about <grub>01:43
nemsCan anyone please help me figure out how to replace my kernel image with the one from the cd?  I recompiled the kernel and screwed it up :/01:43
poningrucs378: did you get that01:43
kemikProzac:  for servers, most ppl find linux more stable than windows01:43
HrdwrBoBcafuego: I did message you about this :)01:43
cafuegonalioth: yeah, mine too... it's helping someone through school atm ;-)01:43
Spud_when i use wine to install something is it uninstalled when wine is exited?01:43
crimsundam_, snd-sb1601:43
kemikSpud_:  no, it's still there01:44
cs378poningru: oh, i will check the forum out, im loadin the cd into my laptop now01:44
poningrucs378: ok thats not it01:44
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dam_paulproteus, mmm, no errors how do i tell if it works?01:44
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: That would not be highly useful if you weren't identified with nickserv; the system would block ya ;-)01:44
Spud_hmm could you please tel me where i could find it?01:44
cs378poningru: whats not it01:44
HrdwrBoBoh heh01:44
kemikSpud_:  once installed, in order to start it again "wine path\binary.exe"01:44
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hihi5anyone ever download ringtones or java games to an LG phone using linux?  send me a msg01:44
kemikSpud_:  that depends on where you installed it01:44
paulproteusdam_: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp01:44
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Spud_what is binary equal to?01:44
paulproteusThen crank up the volume, dam_ .01:44
kemikthe executable file01:44
Spud_c:\01:44
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slashzeroI some how managed to remove my lo interface from start up but it loads if I run ifconfig lo up 127.0.0.101:45
Spud_sorry im a complete n00b to this01:45
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nemsI need to know how to get the default kernel image from the cd back installed.... I recompiled the kernel and now I cant type01:45
kemikwhat did you install, and where did you install it?01:45
poningrucs378: that link is not the correct help01:45
Spud_excursion...an irc prog and to c01:45
Spud_but i cant even find c01:45
poningruhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo?highlight=%28dual%29%7C%28boot%2901:45
paulproteusnems: Did you recompile the kernel using the make-kpkg program, or entirely by hand, nems?01:45
kemikC: is something only Wine knows about01:46
kemikso01:46
poningru!windowsdualboot01:46
ubotuponingru: I don't know, could you explain it?01:46
paulproteusnems: Also, can't you just switch which kernel you use from Grub?01:46
poningru!dualboot01:46
ubotumethinks dualboot is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38398 or ask me about <grub>01:46
kemiksyntax should be something like; "wine c:\excursion.exe"01:46
nemspaulproteus: I did it using make-kpkg01:46
paulproteusnems: Then do "dpkg -r name-of-your-kernel-package"01:46
Spud_ok thanks ill check it out01:46
paulproteusnems: You can SSH in, right?01:46
dam_paulproteus, nothing happens when i run 'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp'01:46
nemskinda01:46
nemsI'm not sure.. I booted up and I'm on the ubuntu disk now01:47
paulproteusdam_: What kind of nothing?01:47
paulproteusLike, you get the console back?01:47
nemschrooted into my setup01:47
paulproteusAn error message?01:47
paulproteusnems: You should be able to switch kernels via grub on boot.01:47
nemshrm01:47
dam_dam@ubuntu:~$ cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp01:47
poningrucs378: did you get the one I gave?01:47
nemshow>01:47
paulproteusThere's a thing like "Press ESC to see menu.  3... 2... 1..." and then it boots01:47
dam_nothing01:47
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poningruthe second one01:47
nemsok.. let me reboot nad try it again01:47
puffHm, do i need bittorrent to get the ubuntu installer?01:47
paulproteusdam_: And then it hangs?01:47
paulproteuspuff: No.01:47
nemshow do I permanently remove the kernel thats broken?01:47
dam_paulproteus, doesnt error, doesnt run, nothing.01:47
poningruhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo01:48
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cs378poningru: ok lokin at it now01:48
cs378poningruthx01:48
puffThe ubuntu installer page takes me to http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/01:48
poningrunp01:48
dam_paulproteus, i suppose it could be running but im not getting anything pop up01:48
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paulproteuspuff: Great. Follow the mirror links.01:48
dam_paulproteus, do i need to play a song?01:48
Statehello world01:48
paulproteusdam_: Crank up the volume.01:48
poningruanyone have any probs changing !dualboot to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo01:48
paulproteusdam_: Try a song instead, yeah.01:48
poningruanyone?01:48
poningruubotu: !dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo01:49
ubotuponingru: okay01:49
dam_paulproteus, sweet01:49
paulproteusponingru: Go ahead.01:49
poningru!dualboot01:49
ubotudualboot is probably http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38398 or ask me about <grub>01:49
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State:P01:49
naliothponingru: i think they locked the bot01:49
puffHm, I thought I had, guess I must have clicked the wrong link.01:49
funkyHathi State01:49
poningruoh01:49
Statehi funkyHat01:49
rob^ubotu dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo01:50
ubotu...but dualboot is already something else...01:50
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rob^ubotu forget dualboot01:50
uboturob^: i forgot dualboot01:50
rob^ubotu dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo01:50
Magnus-swei need some help testing my latest beta software (c/gtk+) for isc bind if anyone is interrested.01:50
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rob^hmm, I did remember some talk about people adding inapproprate things to the bot a while back..01:50
rob^!dualboot01:51
uboturob^: Are you smoking crack?01:51
dam_paulproteus, volume control works, i can turn the HISS up and down. musicplayer gives errors. such as cannot pause, and cannot write to device properly01:51
rob^ubotu dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo01:51
uboturob^: okay01:51
mebaran151could you direct me to a good resource to set up ssh an d scp01:51
rob^!dualboot01:51
paulproteusmebaran151: apt-get install openssh-server01:51
paulproteusThen it just works.01:51
funkyHatrob^, ubotu is too busy smoking crack01:51
paulproteusNo "setting up" required.01:51
rob^!dualboot01:51
ubotufrom memory, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo01:51
dam_paulproteus, could not open resouce for writing01:51
paulproteus!crack01:51
ubotupaulproteus: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about01:51
rob^there we go01:51
naliothlooks like "stupid bot tricks" in here today01:52
funkyHatubotu, put the pipe down and listen!01:52
ubotufunkyHat: Bugger all, i dunno01:52
paulproteus!dance01:52
ubotupaulproteus: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?01:52
cafuego!botabuse01:52
ubotucafuego: Are you smoking crack?01:52
paulproteusdam_: Do this on a console:01:52
paulproteusesd &01:52
cafuegoHow dare you!01:52
funkyHat!distrowar01:52
ubotufunkyHat: No idea01:52
funkyHatow :(01:52
Slipaway172did yall hear about the fusion reactor that has enough power to power the whole world and enough enegry to SPLIT the world in two if something goes wrong?01:52
cafuego!botabuse01:53
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.01:53
dam_paulproteus, i heard something01:53
poningruwhos incharge of ubotu?01:53
paulproteusdam_: Good.  Now play a song.01:53
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deliretime to fly01:53
funkyHat!distrowar01:53
ubotufrom memory, distrowar is gentoo is faster than ubuntu!01:53
cafuegoSlipaway172: What, the sun?01:53
poningru!dualboot01:53
ubotuwell, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo01:53
poningruwtf01:53
kemikdont think the sun would split earth01:54
cs378poningru: ?, wa wtf01:54
dam_paulproteus, champion, youve now freed up a PCI slot for something else.01:54
kemikmore like, vaporize01:54
cafuegokemik: if you shaped it, sure it could ;-)01:54
cs378poningru:its givin the right link to the wiki01:54
paulproteusdam_: Hooray, I think....01:54
kemikheh. well, good luck shaping it ;)01:54
dam_paulproteus, can you reccommend a place where i can put all this INFO on awebsite?01:54
dam_paulproteus, so i dont have to bother you guys again01:54
Slipaway172no01:54
Slipaway172it is a reactor01:54
funkyHatdam_, the ubuntu wiki :)01:54
Slipaway172its dam scary01:54
kemikSlipaway172:  no, its not even close to a reactor yet01:55
paulproteusdam_: You could have skipped the "esd & " bit and just logged out and logged in.01:55
Slipaway172i know but i will still be liveing by then01:55
dam_paulproteus, ok cool, i should be right then...01:55
kemikall they done is decide to build a test reactor in france01:55
paulproteusdam_: I'm surprised that the Ubuntu hotplug program didn't detect your SoundBlaster card automatically.01:55
poningruyeah rob^ fixed it01:55
boo_booneed help with gnomeboy, no sound01:55
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dam_funkyHat, can i create my own section?01:55
cafuegois this one of those nanosecond fusion experimental setups that eats more power that it currently produces?01:55
poningrudam_: what info?01:55
funkyHatdam_, i think that's the point of a wiki...01:55
poningrucause you can put it on the wiki01:55
kemikSlipaway172:  and who told you it'd split earth ?!01:55
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dam_paulproteus, the commands you gave me, modprobe , cat , etc...01:56
poningruwiki.ubuntu.org01:56
Slipaway172then how about the reactor from the soviet union, in about 20 years it will crack the cement and go to the earth core and will cause a undefiniate amount of damage01:56
funkyHatyeah i'm pretty sure you can add your own articles01:56
cafuegoHeadline: Hydrogen fusion causes Silicon fission!01:56
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poningruanyone need help?01:56
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dam_ok. im about to try installing a ISA nic.01:56
paulproteusdam_: To make that happen again, you will need to append "snd-sb16" (without the quotes) to the end of /etc/modules01:57
rob^poningru, I'm sure they will ask01:57
cafuegoSlipaway172: A ton of plutonuim will cause 0 damage to the earh's core, which contains several gigatonnes (no, more) of uranium.01:57
kemikSlipaway172:  yay! stop trolling please01:57
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shawn___ok.. I got booted in my old kernel... how do I permanently remove the new kernel?01:57
paulproteusdam_: Oh, god help us.  It's "Return of the ISA Monsters"!01:57
cafuegoSlipaway172: Time to take physics at school.01:57
paulproteusshawn___: dpkg -r the package01:57
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shawn___I tried that...01:57
dam_who wants to help me?01:57
Slipaway172that will be next year01:57
shawn___it tells me its not installed.01:57
paulproteusshawn___: And what happened?01:57
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funkyHatdam_, you have ISA ports? :|01:57
cafuegoAnd put that stupid 'the core" movie away.01:57
funkyHat*slots01:57
Slipaway172anyways cnn was explain what could happen01:57
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shawn___it tells me its not installed.01:57
dam_yeah im running a 533, with 380meg ram, 4gig HD.01:57
cafuegoSlipaway172: Nothing will happen.01:58
sorush20guys how do I get my scanner to work with my Ubuntu...01:58
dam_just trying to build old PC's to look good.01:58
HrdwrBoBSlipaway172: go away quick, you need a tinfoil hat01:58
paulproteusshawn___: dpkg -l01:58
paulproteusThat will list the packages.01:58
shawn___I did.01:58
HrdwrBoBin other news, has anyone else had trouble with mplayer in hoary and ac3 audio (lib152)01:58
funkyHatSlipaway172, unless you can think of a direct link between ubuntu and nuclear fustion reactors, please tell someone else. :)01:58
paulproteusLook through the list for anything beginning with kernel- or linux-01:58
rob^man, there have been a lot of security updates in the last few days :)01:58
HrdwrBoBmplayer dies with MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio01:58
paulproteusrob^: Does that mean you're downloading them now?01:58
Slipaway172lol01:58
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cafuegoSlipaway172: They're just reporting crap to divert attention from *actual* issues. most news channels do... LOOK AT THE SHINY TERRORIST!!!01:59
shawn___ahh01:59
poningruhehe01:59
shawn___it cut off the name I think01:59
HrdwrBoB(on two seperate machines, with all sorts of files01:59
rob^paulproteus, no, just one for vim at the moment01:59
cs378i am installin ubuntu now, says i have network problem with DHCP protocol. the ethernet hardware has been detected01:59
paulproteusrob^: Aww, shucks.01:59
rob^haha01:59
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poningrucs378: how do you connect to internet?01:59
puffHm, anybody know where to find a Linux System Rescue CD download, other than sysresccd.org, which isn't responding right now?01:59
shawn___I get "This is an essential package and should not be removed"01:59
robertjdoes about me play nice with pam and co?01:59
sorush20Guys my scanner is present in device manager but I can't get it to work...02:00
rob^puff, knoppix02:00
tahorgpuff: ubuntu live !02:00
puffrob^: mainly I need qtpartd.02:00
cafuegopuff: Your install CD.02:00
cs378poningru: laptop is conected to the router, i router connected to the cable modem02:00
occyDo I need to download a special Hoary disk for AMD Athlon 64?02:00
rob^yes, gtparted is in knoppix02:00
vitriolubuntu uses xorg right? and the current stable release is hoary?02:00
benplautdon't listen to cafuego :P02:00
puffso the ubuntun install CD can handle the reparittioning?02:00
mebaran151cd av02:00
cafuegooccy: yes, the x86_64 (amd64) one02:00
rob^Virtuall, yeah02:00
mebaran151sorry whoops wrong place02:00
occycafuego, okies danke02:00
poningrucs378: it shouldnt cause any probs02:00
rob^doh02:00
naliothpuff: yes it can02:00
shawn___paulproteus: how do I get around that?02:00
funkyHatdoes anyone else miss the way you can middle click in a browser window and move the mouse to make it scroll? or is there a way to make that work?02:01
puffnalioth: Danke.02:01
rob^vitriol, yes02:01
puffOkay, not to worry about that then.02:01
vitriolrob^: ok thanks02:01
mebaran151paulproteus, no keygen or nothing for sshd?02:01
poningrucs378: what was the error?02:01
cs378poningru: ... but getting Network autoconfiguration failed, should i just continue02:01
cafuegooccy: Though the i386 one will work fine too (especially for multimedia like DVDs, DivX, flash and Java)02:01
naliothmebaran151: keygen?02:01
poningrucs378: hmm you sure everything is connected correctly?02:01
poningruwireless wont work02:01
cs378poningru: i was on the internet with windows xp loaded b402:01
paulproteusmebaran151: What OS did you run before Ubuntu?02:01
puffIs there a page somewhere that explains why ubuntu exists?02:02
cafuegopuff: The Ubuntu install CD does partitioning, setting up of LVM and/or RAID0-5.02:02
rob^poningru, thats not 100% true, it depends on your hardware02:02
paulproteuspuff: www.ubuntulinux.org ?02:02
mebaran151paulproteus, Windows ....02:02
naliothpuff: https://wiki.ubuntu.com02:02
cafuegopuff: It might not have a clicky-pointy app for it, but it works fine.02:02
poningrurob^: are you telling me wireless might work during install?02:02
poningruwoah02:02
poningruubuntu is far ahead than I thought02:02
puffThey seem pretty debian-esque, I'm wondering what their motivation is for doing a distinct project.02:02
rob^poningru, I doubt the install procedure has the modules for it, but you can add them, it is the debian installer02:02
paulproteuspuff: There's a manifesto.02:03
cafuegopuff: Newer desktop software; dbian doesn't have that focus.02:03
paulproteuspuff: Crawl around ubuntu.com.  There are good reasons, like polish and desktop use.02:03
dam_poningru, how do i create my own page?02:03
shawn___paulproteus: how do I get around that it telling me "Thats an essential package and shouldnt be removed"?02:03
mebaran151paulproteus, how do I get it to forward X1102:03
mebaran151or should I let it do that02:03
paulproteusmebaran151: Are you in X11 currently?02:03
robertjbtw, anyone know of a nifty way to pipe the current chat buffer in xchat into the command line and then back into the window (not posted to the channel)02:03
mebaran151paulproteus, yeah02:03
paulproteusmebaran151: And you want to ssh to a remote computer, and let programs you run on that remote computer appear on your local monitor?02:04
robertjI'm always wanting to grep for someones name to view their last x lines and so forth02:04
paulproteusThen ssh -X user@remotehost02:04
paulproteusrobertj: That's be neat for me in gaim, too.02:04
paulproteusI should suggest it to the developers.02:04
crimsunyou guys should be using irssi, then02:04
poningrudam_: what page do you want?02:04
poningruto create?02:04
robertjcrimsun: I like my GUI!02:04
poningruwhat title did you want it?02:04
mebaran151paulproteus, will it work with Windows02:04
paulproteusmebaran151: ...?02:04
mebaran151if you use an ssh client02:04
mebaran151can you forward X02:04
crimsunrobertj, then load irssi's proxy and connect to it using x-chat02:04
mebaran151or will they have to run their own X server02:05
paulproteusmebaran151: Do you have X clients on the Windows machine?02:05
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robertjcrimsun: hrmm, interesting02:05
poningrucs378: you may wanna restart the installer because it helps at the end02:05
moparfan90when i have a install.sh file and open it. it says open it terminal. then opens and closes right away. howdo i install it??02:05
cafuegomebaran151: You ssh FROm the box with X, and run apps anywhere that allows X11Forwarding02:05
poningrubut internet is not necessary02:05
mebaran151yeah02:05
poningrufor installation02:05
dam_poningru, i want to be able to save what ive learnt with ubuntu on webpage that i can access anytime.02:05
moparfan90yeah02:05
paulproteusmebaran151: Well, if you have an SSH server running on Windows, and X clients on that machine...02:05
paulproteusThen ssh -X user@remotehost02:05
moparfan90when i have a install.sh file and open it. it says open it terminal. then opens and closes right away. howdo i install it????????????????????????????????02:05
rob^dam_, are you sure its not already covered?02:05
poningrudam_: what title did you want for the page is the question02:05
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cafuegossh -X -C user@host  (compression helps)02:06
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poningrusorry I should have been more clear02:06
rob^dam_, have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation and also do a search02:06
cs378poningru02:06
mebaran151paulproteus, other way around02:06
mebaran151linux ssh server02:06
paulproteusmebaran151: Then the Windows machine must be running an X server.02:06
cs378poningru: ill restart the installer then02:06
paulproteusYou can get one from Cygwin.02:06
shawn___how do I get around that it telling me "Thats an essential package and shouldnt be removed" when I try and uninstall a bad kernel....02:06
mebaran151ah I see02:06
funkyHatdam_, if you want free webspace, www.memebot.org is pretty good. and will automatically configure a blog or a wiki for you if you want, otherwise you can use ftp to upload pages02:06
paulproteusshawn___: What package name?02:06
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paulproteusfunkyHat: He wants to add to the wiki.02:06
paulproteusdam_: It may also be easier to just make a post in the HOWTO section of the Ubuntu forum.02:07
poningrucs378: ok how did you repartition your hard drive?02:07
shawn___paulproteus: kernel-image-2.6.11custom02:07
funkyHatpaulproteus, yes :)02:07
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shawn___nevfermind02:07
shawn___it was 2.6.1002:07
boo_booponingru:  could you help with no sound issue in gnomeboy02:07
rob^dam_, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnEditing02:07
poningrudam_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/put_page_title_here02:07
Burgundaviapaulproteus, dam_ the best place would be the wiki02:07
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cs378poningru: not up to that yet, still need to configure the network02:07
paulproteusBurgundavia: Okay.02:07
poningrucs378: you have to repartition the hd before hand02:07
moparfan90if i d/l a file do i d/l the .bz2 or .gz  ?????02:07
poningruyou can use system rescue cd02:08
poningru!dualboot02:08
ubotufrom memory, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo02:08
paulproteusmoparfan90: Either one.02:08
spermie_411I'm getting alot of this when i try to apt-get something, Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main       /binary-i386/mozilla-firefox_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_all.deb  404 Not Found02:08
shawn___No I get "Errors encountered while processing grep"02:08
paulproteusmoparfan90: They have the same contents.  The bz2 is smaller.02:08
moparfan90o02:08
HrdwrBoBspermie_411: run apt-get update02:08
moparfan90oo02:08
paulproteusspermie_411: Are you using Synaptic or apt-get or what?02:08
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cs378poningru: ohhh, then ill dl that systemresouce iso then02:08
Razor-Xboo_boo: GnomeBoy is just a VBA frontent02:08
paulproteusIn Synaptic, hit reload.02:08
spermie_411paulproteus Apt-get02:08
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poningrucs378: you can use the installer02:08
poningrubut its not so user friendly02:08
poningruI mean you can do it02:09
moparfan90paulproteus, how do i un the .sh file..... when i try to open it it says open it termeinal then closes?????02:09
rob^poningru, cs378 see the alternative way also at the bottom of that page02:09
mebaran151is there any easy way to stream over ssh02:09
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paulproteusmebaran151: Stream what?02:09
mebaran151or any easy streaming technology like such02:09
spermie_411HrdwrBoB i ran apt-update in get an error also02:09
Razor-Xmebaran151: you can forward any traffic over SSH02:09
mebaran151paulproteus, files02:09
cs378poningru: ohk, then ill skip the network thing,02:09
boo_boorazor-x:  ok, but when i open a rom it runs fine, although no sound02:09
paulproteusmebaran151: debian-administration.org did a special on gnump3d if you want music streaming02:09
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Razor-Xas long as there's a constant out stream, you can forward it through SSH02:09
Razor-Xboo_boo: do you have any other sound applications running?02:10
mebaran151Razor-X, yeah I know02:10
poningrucs378: did it give you trouble again?02:10
boo_boorazor-x: no02:10
poningruwith the network?02:10
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mebaran151but can you easily pipe what ssh is scp to another app02:10
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Razor-Xboo_boo: try looking at your VBA config files02:10
moparfan90paulproteus, how do i install  the .sh file..... when i try to open it it says open it termeinal then closes?????02:10
_simplei have a pretty newb question..02:10
mebaran151like a DivX player, or must you copy the whole thing?02:10
cs378poningru: haha, i just put in any name for the hostname n worked ...hmmmm02:10
paulproteusmoparfan90: Open a terminal.02:10
paulproteusThen find the thing you wanted.02:11
Razor-Xmebaran151: you mean, you want to tunnel a SCP session?02:11
paulproteusThen run it with ./filename02:11
moparfan90ok02:11
_simplei installed firefox 1.0.6 into ~/simple/.mozilla, how can i make firefox be a command that runs firefox?02:11
poningrucs378: heh yeah you need a host name for your router02:11
paulproteus_simple: Do you really mean /home/simple/simple/.mozilla ?02:11
rtcmusing breezy in which package should 'xset' be? (yes, I know X is kind of broken)02:11
_simplelike firefox %u used to work02:11
paulproteusThat's bizarre.02:11
_simpleno02:11
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_simple~/.mozilla02:11
_simple~/.mozilla/firefox02:11
Razor-X_simple: open up your .bashrc02:11
shawn___paulproteus: any ideas?02:11
paulproteusxutils or similar, rtcm02:11
Razor-Xand then, add in an alias02:11
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cs378poningru: brb, gotta go out, thx very much for ur help02:11
paulproteusshawn___: Read the manual page for dpkg02:11
paulproteusThere's various force options, if I recall correctly.02:12
poningrucs378: yeah np02:12
paulproteusFind the one that is relevant for what you want.02:12
shawn___ok.. and look for what?02:12
mebaran151Razor-X, I think so02:12
paulproteusThere's various force options, if I recall correctly.02:12
mebaran151I just decided on a whim today to use scp for this02:12
shawn___I've read it before and I dont see how grep is interfering with uninstalling mykernel02:12
Razor-Xmebaran151: then... why not?02:12
mebaran151uh02:12
Razor-Xit'll work02:12
mebaran151the receiver is on windows02:12
paulproteusshawn___: Huh?02:12
puffHm, is there something tricky t using bittorrent? I installed the bittorrent client and tried to download the ubuntu live torrent, it says "0% done 18 days remaining"02:12
Razor-Xmebaran151: and?02:12
_simpleso02:12
paulproteusWhat does grep have to do with this?02:12
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paulproteuspuff: Wait a moment.02:12
mebaran151I need to make it relatively easy for him02:12
shawn___Now I get "Errors encountered while processing: grep"02:12
poningrupuff: do you have a router?02:12
moparfan90i cant get it to work02:12
Razor-Xso, you're hosting a server and forwarding through SSH?02:12
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Amphibious_TankHello everyone, I have a question:  What is the best utility in Ubuntu for resizing linux partitions?02:12
shawn___paulproteus: when I try and remove m kernel02:12
mebaran151basically yes02:12
_simplealias /home/simple/.mozilla/firefox/firefox?02:13
paulproteusshawn___: join #flood02:13
poningruAmphibious_Tank: qtparted imho02:13
Razor-Xok hmmm....02:13
mebaran151I'd like to make it seem as transparent as a mount02:13
moparfan90paulproteus, the file name is install-sh what do i type ??02:13
Razor-Xcan't he use pscp?02:13
puffponingru: Yes, I have a router, good point, the firewall may be blocking it.02:13
Razor-X(Putty's scp client)02:13
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black13while using debootstrap i keep getting errors about setting the locale what does this mean?02:13
Amphibious_Tankpoingru: does that come on a normal install of Ubuntu?02:13
Razor-Xblack13: that means your locale is not set02:13
puffNothing explicitly should be blocking it, but the sysadmin who set that firewall up  has a tendency to do things like uninstalling finger, Just In Case.02:13
Razor-Xif you don't know what locale is... should you really be messing with deboostrap?02:14
poningruAmphibious_Tank: not sure let me check02:14
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Amphibious_TankI don't think it does.02:14
moparfan90paulproteus, the file name is install-sh what do i type ??02:14
black13Razaor-X we only by trying02:14
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black13Razaor-X we only learn by trying02:14
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black13or typing heh02:14
paulproteusmoparfan90: ./install-sh02:14
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puffThen again, if I understand this correctly, bittorrent expects you to listen for incoming requests and serve them, and I could easily see the firewall blocking that.02:14
Razor-Xblack13: you don't jump into a pool if you don't know how to walk ;)02:14
poningruAmphibious_Tank: yes it does02:14
Razor-Xyou don't try and learn Beethoven if you can't talk02:15
poningrulook through your synaptic package manager02:15
poningruor apt-get install qtparted02:15
Razor-XI suggest getting familiar with the console, and booting02:15
black13Razor-X can i ask you a question02:15
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Razor-X(about a week's reading material)02:15
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moparfan90i got a bash02:15
Razor-Xand then come back to your project02:15
paulproteusRazor-X: Actually, babies can swim really well.02:15
lcharly_TheOnethe new version of ubuntu is breezy??02:15
paulproteusRazor-X: Even if they can't walk.  I'm talking six weeks here.02:15
Razor-Xpaulproteus: in a 5 foot pool?02:15
paulproteuslcharly_TheOne: It's not out yet.02:15
poningrulcharly_TheOne: yes thats the next version02:15
paulproteusRazor-X: Yeah.  They float, so it's not a big deal.02:15
Syedburnshello hello02:15
lcharly_TheOnebut in the page is out yey02:15
Razor-Xpaulproteus: and your kid stays still in the water?02:16
lcharly_TheOneyet02:16
paulproteusRazor-X: "Trust me, I'm a cognitive science major."  Or google baby+swim or something.02:16
Razor-Xmy sister and your kid is totally different ;)02:16
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lcharly_TheOnea can download it02:16
paulproteusRazor-X: I'm in college.  No kids yet.02:16
Amphibious_Tankok thanks poningru.02:16
MobiusHey, its not every day you enter the ubuntu channel and people are talking about floating babies..02:16
lcharly_TheOnehttp://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/02:16
poningruAmphibious_Tank: np02:16
black13Razor-X whats with the attitude?02:16
Razor-Xoh, well, they may float, but i'm pretty sure babies move around in the water02:16
paulproteuslcharly_TheOne: Just 'cause it's there doesn't mean it won't blow up in your face. :)02:16
Razor-Xblack13: it's not attitude, a week of reading won't hurt02:16
Razor-Xif something goes wrong, then, it'll be hard, trust me02:16
drummerCould someone help me with a printer problem?  (HP Laserjet 4050)02:17
Razor-Xit's nice to get familiar with the bootup process and the command line (just a week's worth)02:17
poningrublack13: right now you do need some reading done02:17
lcharly_TheOnei have a problem with my laptop don't work in ubunut02:17
poningrubut its not a week02:17
pax!backports02:17
ubotuI heard backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports02:17
MobiusAnyone have any suggestions for a usb key flash drive that they use with ubuntu with no problems?02:17
Razor-XI guess i'm the only one nowadays who wants to learn ;)02:17
poningruif you are a complete newbie you can probably get the reading done in couple of days02:17
lcharly_TheOneis a compaq presario v2312US with amd turion 6402:17
Razor-X``Frontent shmontend, fix my problem ;)''02:17
paulproteusdrummer: Well, tell us the problem.02:17
paxubotu forget backports02:17
ubotui forgot backports, pax02:17
lcharly_TheOnebut ubuntu amd 64 don't recognize it02:17
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vinboyhi02:18
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drummerpaulproteus: When I send a print job to the printer - It says it;s processing then nothing comes out.02:18
vinboywhen I try to run a program .. it says error while loading shared libraries: libaIO.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:18
Razor-Xblack13: advice also02:18
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paulproteusvinboy: What program?02:18
Razor-Xif you haven't already, create a sub-root directory02:18
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vinboythe libaIO.so is in that directoy ttho02:18
Razor-Xlike /testsystem02:18
Razor-Xand chmod it 77702:18
vinboypaulproteus, a program that my robot through serial port02:18
Razor-Xso that the bootstrapper will have nice room to work its magic02:18
lcharly_TheOneand i prove with a lot of distribution but no one works02:19
poningrucya paulproteus02:19
paxubotu Backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted02:19
ubotupax: okay02:19
rob^hey pax, is it ready to use with hoary or not?02:19
drummerdamn - got caught by a bot again.  Question still stands though.  Ubuntu says it's printing b ut nothing comes out.02:20
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paxrob^ says Hoary doesnt it?02:20
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rob^pax02:20
rob^ok02:20
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Razor-Xblack13: you also said you've tried LFS?02:21
Razor-Xhave you tried BLFS?02:21
frankDoes the new firefox work well now? did they fix it?02:21
rob^pax, does packages.u.c reflect the new backports?02:21
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paxrob^ I don't know.02:21
funkyHatfrank, it might ;)02:21
catolh!dma02:21
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frankfunkyHat: they put the real 1.0.6 in hoary-security02:22
black13Razor-X lfs is a no go i worked on it for months02:22
Razor-Xblack13: what about BLFS?02:22
poningru!dma02:22
Razor-XLFS is pretty limited in scope, BLFS is much better for your needs IMO02:22
frankSo what happened to the "we don't change version numbers in hoary" policy?02:22
funkyHatfrank, yeah, i got it earlier, it works for me, but some people have still been complaining that it's broken02:23
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Razor-Xfrank: a few too many bleating people02:23
mebaran151pax, do they backport for the 64 bits?02:23
black13Razor-X when i use ubuntu debootstrap to build a debootstrap it works fine02:23
Razor-Xblack13: but, BLFS is much more streamlined than debootstrap02:23
frankfunkyHat: Anyways I installed the official version from mozilla as a user and it works fine02:23
Razor-Xsimply because the latter is not compiled, while BLFS is02:23
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Razor-XBLFS will give you a blazing fast system02:24
paxmebaran151: no clue.02:24
black13Razor-X i have a way trimming down ubuntu down to 32 meg02:24
cafuegoBLFS will also take you 10 times longer to install.02:24
black13Razor-X and it has the stability of debian/ubuntu02:24
Razor-Xblack13: BLFS can get it down smaller and faster02:24
frankwhat does the B stand for, binary?02:25
mebaran151I wonder if you could build apt in BLFS and suddenly have a Debian system that haws a properly compiled toolchain02:25
mebaran151frank, Beyond02:25
Razor-Xcompilation will _always_ be smaller than packaging02:25
mebaran151it is not binary at all I dont htink02:25
Razor-Xfrank: Beyond02:25
frankok02:25
boo_booRazor-X: checked the config file, everything seems to be in order02:25
Razor-Xmebaran151: i'll bet you can02:25
Razor-Xboo_boo: hmmmm... oddd02:25
Razor-Xs/oddd/odd/02:25
Razor-Xtry killall esd02:25
Razor-Xand then restart it02:25
Razor-Xmebaran151: actually, that's not a bad idea02:26
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black13Razor-X look i appreciate you help but this is an apples and oragnes question ... i want to solve the local question02:26
Razor-Xblack13: i'm just saying, that for your purposes, BLFS may take longer, but is worth the small filesize and speedy install02:26
Razor-Xand i'm also saying this to test your guts ;)02:26
Razor-Xbecause BLFS is not a child's play thing, heh02:26
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black13Razor-x no shit i work on lfs for months with nothing02:27
black13i dont have that kind of time02:27
moparfan90how do i run a python script?02:27
Razor-Xblack13: ok then, so you want a ``Semi-optimized small Linux''02:27
Razor-Xwhat's the platform it's being deployed on?02:27
cafuegoRazor-X: Compilation won't be smaller then packaging when you need all headers files installed in order to build a trivial util.02:27
black13Razor-x size more than speed02:27
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Razor-Xcafuego: but if you remove the source after that02:28
black13and i build the kernel with the real time patches02:28
dam_ubuntu wiki isnt working for me. i just want to paste stuff that i cant refer too at a later date.02:28
moparfan90how do i run a python script?02:28
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funkyHatmoparfan90, make sure it's executable, and then run it like an excecuable02:28
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cafuegoRazor-X: *headers* libc6-dev, kernel header, zlib-dev, mysql-dev etc.02:28
cafuegoRazor-X: They need to be reinstalled each time you update02:28
funkyHatchmod +x filename | pathto/filename02:28
Razor-Xcafuego: ahhh, yeah, that's true *scrunches forehead*02:29
joevandykMy dvd drive isn't mounted, but it's not ejecting the disk.  Any ideas why?02:29
moparfan90how do i make it exacuable?02:29
black13Razor-x the local is set via the LC_* environment variables correct?02:29
Razor-Xbecause on a compiled system everything depends on the headers02:29
Razor-Xblack13: and also LANG02:29
Razor-Xgives me an idea...02:29
black13LANG=en_US02:29
SeekForthI just installed Ubuntu using the server option, and when it first tries to boot I get EXT3-fs error and then it remounts the filesystem as read-onnly, can anyone help me out here?02:29
Razor-Xblack13: try en_US.UTF-802:29
cafuegoRazor-X: if yopu don't care much for security fixes and don't want to recompile stuff every two days, a source distro is probably fine.02:30
moparfan90funkyHat, how do i make a python script exacuable??????02:30
Razor-XI may try BLFS on my old 100 mhz Pentium...02:30
Razor-Xit has 5 GB, and 48 MB of RAM02:30
Razor-Xit'll probably take 20 days, or so02:30
funkyHatmoparfan90, chmod +x filename | pathto/filename02:30
Razor-Xbut, worth it, if I want speed02:30
funkyHatmoparfan90, (that will excecute it too)02:31
joevandykOne of the sucky things about the current Ubuntu release is that there's about six different printer dialog boxes.  :(02:31
cafuegoRazor-X: The extra run-time speed you gain will never offset the time you spent waiting fo the compile to finish.02:31
black13Razor-x what the heck ill try it02:31
Razor-Xcafuego: how much time you think it'll take?02:31
funkyHatmoparfan90, or you can use the properties dialog if you prefer using a graphical interface, and assign execute rights to the owner02:31
cafuegoif you want a P100 to be fast, put it in a linear accelerator ;-)02:32
moparfan90funkyHat, so if the file was named python.py and it was in my home folder. what woulf i type?02:32
black13Razor-x i am going to try debootstrap one more time02:32
Razor-Xcafuego: or should I try a Gentoo install with -O5 ?02:32
cafuegoRazor-X: Kernels used to take me a few hours on the P90.02:32
Razor-Xblack13: go ahead ;)02:32
funkyHatmoparfan90, chmod +x python.py02:32
Razor-Xcafuego: I'm thinking 20 days then?02:32
moparfan90funkyHat, how do i do that?02:32
mebaran151Razor-X, BLFS is good learning tool02:32
robertjRazor: want to now what would be an infinitely better use of your time? Go find a place that serves burgers, work there, and buy a new machine02:32
cafuegoRazor-X: I can but guess at the joys of building libc6 on one.02:32
mebaran151I woulnt use it for my day to day distro02:32
cafuegoor gcc02:32
Razor-Xrobertj: what's the point of retiring old things?02:32
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davidhello02:32
funkyHatmoparfan90, right click on it, click properties, then go to the permissions tab, and look at the bunch of tick boxes02:32
cafuegoYou need to buuild gcc three times, too.02:32
robertjRazor-X: to never look at them again?02:32
Razor-Xoh yeah, and tab complete highlights my name ;)02:32
moparfan90ok02:33
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cafuegoand against two libc6-es02:33
Razor-Xrobertj: nopes, even if I get a new machine, why not?02:33
robertjRazor-X: because they take power to run and time to manage?02:33
Razor-Xcafuego: ;)02:33
cafuegoRazor-X: 20 days might be a tad optimistic ;-)02:33
Razor-Xrobertj: so?02:33
black13Razor-x problme is still there02:33
Razor-Xcafuego: 2 months?02:33
cafuegoGentoo kills trees!02:33
Razor-Xthe only problem is if my sister turns the power off02:33
davidcan any one help me with getting a integrated webcam to work02:33
naliothRazor-X: cafuego is correct, you'll need to build gcc 3 times02:33
poningrucafuego: hahaha02:33
moparfan90ok thanks funkyhat,02:34
moparfan90bye02:34
robertjif I were looking a at a p100, i'd start with potato and start dist-upgrading02:34
Razor-Xrobertj: but potato's slow02:34
davidit is integrated in to my laptops lcd screan well on top of itwebcam to work02:34
cafuegorobertj: I'd start with woody and stay there.02:34
Razor-XI don't think any package distro can acheive the same speed as a source distro02:34
cafuegoRazor-X: No, a p100 is slow.02:34
Razor-Xand speed is what I severely need on it02:35
poningrudavid: chances of that runnin is small02:35
Razor-Xcafuego: Pottato's slow _on_ a P10002:35
poningrutry to find out what kind it is02:35
davidgreat02:35
cafuegoRazor-X: If you offset the compile-time, packaged distros are FAR faster than any source distro.02:35
robertjRazor: that's like saying you severly need speed on a big wheel02:35
Razor-Xrobertj: a big wheel?02:35
robertjyes, like 2 year olds ride02:35
davidponingru: is there a way ti even check if it is detected02:35
cafuegoRazor-X: but why not spend two months compiling in order to find out for yourself? ;-)02:35
Razor-Xcafuego: and the learning experience? ;)02:35
poningrudavid: look under hardware02:36
robertjthe learning experience is probably not very useful02:36
poningruin system->administration02:36
cafuegoRazor-X: following a HOWTO and copying commands does not a learning experience make.02:36
Razor-Xrobertj: and wouldn't it be kickass to outfit a big wheel with a bigass engine?02:36
davidponingru: where is that?02:36
poningrudevice manager02:36
poningrunot hardware02:36
poningrusorry02:36
robertjRazor: not it wouldn't its plastic and wont ever go fast02:36
Razor-Xrobertj: you're saying that just because something is meant for this, it shouldn't be used for that02:36
poningrucafuego: not yoda you are02:37
Razor-Xthat's like saying ``Why customize your Linux distro?''02:37
Razor-Xit's already meant for this, don't make it do that!02:37
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robertjRazor: the answer to why customize your linux distro is "because it beats doing it from the ground up"02:37
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cafuegoRazor-X: No, it's like saying "Why spend $100 to win $10?"02:38
davidponingru: ya there is a lot of stuf I dont under stand, but it there any tip you can give me02:38
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Razor-Xit seems more like you people have a more macro ideal of ``If it aint broke don't fix it''02:38
cafuegoRazor-X: You're free to do so, just don't expect most of us to think it's a good idea.02:38
robertjthe people who spend all their time obsessing ver stupid things are replaced by Indians02:38
Razor-Xsomething with a function clearly out of scope, why adjust the scope?02:39
cafuegoRazor-X: that ideal keeps the bills paid.02:39
Razor-Xrobertj: i'm Indian.........02:39
Razor-Xcafuego: the counter-idea inspired Richard Stallman02:39
boo_booRazor-X: no go with the esd02:39
poningrudavid: hmm02:39
robertjRazor: well around here thats a very bad thing because it usually means your not working on FOSS anymore02:39
poningrulet me see02:39
cafuegoRazor-X: Windows was highly broken.02:39
Razor-Xrobertj: I'm not in India, i'm Indian though, and I won't let my race signify anything02:40
robertjRazor: it does here, and frankly you don't have much of a choice in the matter, its perception02:40
Razor-Xrobertj: ok then, be racist *shrugs*02:40
nalioth Razor-X nobody in the world asked for that info, and the fact that you mentioned it, obviously it DOES signify something02:40
poningruRazor-X: you are desi?02:40
poningrunever would have guessed02:41
Razor-Xponingru: yeah, Bengali02:41
poningrumalu here02:41
robertjRazor: i'm not racist. I'm not disparaging Indians. I am merely saying that they are taking the jobs of people here who aren't big picture people02:41
poningrudavid: try to find something like a camera or something like that02:41
Razor-Xrobertj: and understand that Indians don't all work in call centers02:41
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poningruor something like webcam02:41
cafuegorobertj: They aren't taking jobs, they get given them by large companies. Different issue.02:41
Razor-Xthere are different fields, just like not all Americans work in call centers02:41
Razor-Xrobertj: other companies offer the jobs, they shop around for it02:42
robertjcafuego: They are taking the job. I took someone elses job, that's the way the world works02:42
Razor-Xif China outsourced here, Americans would stay away?02:42
Razor-XI heavily doubt that02:42
bob2this seems rather unrelated to Ubuntu02:42
Razor-Xbob2: well, it has something to do about using a source distro, in robertj's opinion02:42
Mobiusi agree bob202:42
black13does the locale information reside in /usr/lib/locale02:42
cafuegorobertj: of course they take the job. Beats being unemployed. You can't honestly expect someone to refuse a job so that someone else might make more money off it?02:42
Razor-Xblack13: yeah, and also some shell vars02:43
robertjcafuego: I don't blame them, it's just generally to be avoided02:43
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cafuegorobertj: call centers, yes.02:43
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Razor-Xrobertj: because it's becoming taboo?02:43
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bob2black13: share, not lib02:43
robertjRazor: no, not because its taboo, because you want to keep working02:43
black13or better what happens if dont have any locale binares would that cause the afor mentioned problems02:43
black13bob2 /usr/share02:43
Razor-Xrobertj: well, don't blame them, blame our companies02:43
bob2black13: you don't need locale binaries02:44
robertjRazor: I did'nt blaim Indians02:44
Razor-Xblack13: I wouldn't think that many binaries use locale if you're using basic English language binaries02:44
Razor-Xrobertj: not that I condone outsourcing, mind you02:44
cafuegorobertj: it did sure look that way though, from what you initially typed.02:44
black13bob2 /usr/share/locale/????02:44
Razor-Xas an American citizen, I feel outsourcing is wrong, it's more money in the coffers that'll destroy us in the long run02:44
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bob2black13: I have no idea what you're trying to do02:44
robertjRazor: it's fine, outsourcing is okay. I don't work where I will be outsourced, and that is a concious decision on my part.02:44
boo_booRazor-X: esd restarted and still no luck, any other ideas02:45
cafuegoRazor-X: The US are long dead, they just haven't realised it yet.02:45
robertjcafuego: sorry, but people tend to be over sensitive to facts they don't like02:45
paxnobody took anybody's job, the US is a nation of immigrants, some create jobs others import more people to work for cheap, the new people take the jobs, everyone make money, and we are all one big happy family until you involve politics in a channel like this one.02:45
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black13Razor-x I am in industry that is on its way out .... of the border02:45
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poningrublack13: get a new job02:45
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robertjpax: YES THEY DID! THat's horse pucky! I _took_ someone elses job and if I don't cust the mustard _someone_ will take mine02:45
Razor-Xpax: ....... you don't understand capitalism02:46
Mobiuscan we please take this ... conversation elsewhere?02:46
Razor-Xok, this is too offtopic02:46
paxTake it with your local politicians.02:46
Razor-Xyeah, let's go to #ubuntu-offtopic for outsourcing02:46
funkyHat:D02:46
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black13ponigru jesus what crawled up your ass02:46
Razor-Xoh yeah02:46
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Razor-Xby the way, octave1.2-emacsen is broken02:47
Razor-Xjust to let you maintainers know02:47
bob2Razor-X: file a bug!02:47
Mobiusanyone up for discussing how we can bring the different parts of the ubuntu community together?02:47
robertjMobus: for what purpose?02:47
funkyHatMobius, #ubuntu-offtopic02:47
Mobiusk- sorry , nvm =)02:48
funkyHat;)02:48
linuxpoe1backports broken?02:48
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Razor-Xbob2: hmmm, I shall02:49
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godzirraCan anyone help me figure out why I can't compile my kernel now?  It keeps telling me this:  The contained UTS_VERSION string: "2.6.10-custom" does not match expectations:"2.6.10custom" when I'm doing this:  sudo make-kpkg --append-to-version=custom kernel_image modules_image02:49
bob2make-kpkg clean, try again02:50
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black13Razor-X local -a report all kinds of nice locales02:50
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bob2but what feature is the ubuntu 2.6.10 kernel missing?02:50
godzirraahh, make-kpkg02:50
godzirrathank you02:50
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godzirraI accidentally did --append-to-version=-custom02:50
godzirrainstead of just "Custom"02:50
poningruwhen will we switch to 2.6.12?02:52
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poningruor is that planned for breazy only?02:52
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HrdwrBoBponingru: breezy only02:52
BalthazarHi, I just upgraded my video card from an Nvidia GF4MX 440 to a Sapphire Radeon9800 Pro, and now I can't start X.  Is there a simple way to fix this?02:53
robertjBalthazar: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf and follow the directions at top to reconfig X02:54
godzirraDoes anyone know anything about vga mode/frame buffer support and laptops?  I want my console mode to be 1024x768 instead of 640x480.02:54
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BalthazarI think I'm still on XFree02:54
BalthazarUsing Warty02:54
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blake_can someone please tell me how to add multiverse to my sources.list i'm confused02:55
bob2Balthazar: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8602:55
bob2blake_: it explains how.  uncomment the multiverse lines02:55
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spartasgodzirra, if your video card is less than 2 years old, it should support it02:56
godzirraIt does.. I had it running on gentoo :)02:56
godzirraI just dont remember how02:56
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godzirraand cant find docs telling me how to setit up02:56
poningruby uncomment they mean remove the # from the front of the line02:56
blake_ok i'm confused but ultimately i'm just trying to install and run mplayer cause totem is screwing up finaly like yall told me it would do02:56
liz4rdwhast the windows fonts package called agian?02:56
godzirraI know you have to compile something into the kernel and set some MBR options.02:56
blake_soooo i'm at a los02:57
blake_i don't know how to compile anything02:57
spartasgodzirra, you should just have to add vga=795 to your boot options02:57
bob2blake_: you don't need to compile anything02:57
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blake_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061 says i do02:57
bob2blake_: do you know what "uncomment" means?02:57
liz4rdthats the name of the windows fonts package called agian?02:57
bob2ignore the forums then02:57
boo_booanyone, no sound while running visualboy02:58
blake_vaguely ....bubi haven't done anyting yet02:58
Burgundaviacan someone tell me what language this was? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=diff02:58
blake_but*02:58
bob2blake_: so open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor, and read it02:58
naliothliz4rd: msttcorefonts02:58
robertjBalthazar: well the same instructions are there in the X config file I believe02:58
AndaresWhen the hell did CSS become a restricted format?02:58
robertjBalth: but you probably really want to upgrade to hoary if there is no reason not to02:59
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BalthazarI tried running that dpkg reconfigure program, and it didn't work :(02:59
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bob2Andares: CSS the DVD dencryption algorithm is patented02:59
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AndaresOhh....02:59
AndaresI thought they meant Cascading Style Sheets.02:59
bob2and protected by a corporation who likes the DMCA02:59
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lilliputhello all03:00
slacknewhello anybody can help me with my SD slot in my laptop_03:00
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bob2slacknew: does linux support it at all?03:00
Quakehey guys03:00
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slacknewbob2, hmm i don't know... what do you know about that?03:01
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godzirraNow I just have to figure out how to get ACPI to work :/03:01
godzirraI wish I could find the ubuntu docs more easily.03:02
bob2slacknew: use google and/or linux-laptops.net03:02
bob2godzirra: get it to work?  what's there to configure?03:02
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lilliputI just want to advertise for a jabber bot that I finidh If some of you could test it would be great .. it's available on saycurebot@jabber.fr or on hotmail via saycurebot@hotmail.com .The bot is a turing machine ie reproduce a human03:02
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godzirraACPI is power saving stuff right?  Or am I thinking of the other A acronym? :)03:02
bob2yes03:02
bob2it should work by default03:02
godzirraok.. I'm on a laptop03:02
godzirraok, how do I tweak the settings then03:03
bob2wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryPMTestingResults03:03
bob2what settings are there to tweak?03:03
godzirraWell, hopefully I'd lke to make the screen turn off if I flip the lid down.03:03
bob2that should happen by default03:03
godzirraif thats not possible, I'd like the screen to turn off after X minutes if there's no interaction.03:03
humboltkwifimanager does not seem to be able to handle wep keys. What am I doing wrong. Propably it does not set anything when I hit activate.03:03
godzirrait doesnt.03:03
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drayen*stupid newbie question comming up* Im trying to do some web dev work, useing FTP to upload and download directories (with sub dirs) at a time, ive worked out how to use the command line lftp, but there doesnt seem to be any easy way to get entire dirs at a time. help?!?!03:04
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Xenguydrayen: mget ?03:04
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linuxpoetdrayen: use scp03:04
bob2and mput03:04
godzirrabob2: are you saying ACPI should do that by default or my laptop hardware should do that by default?03:04
bob2or use rsync03:04
bob2godzirra: both03:04
drayenXenguy, im sure i tried mget, but it still didnt like it...03:04
linuxpoetrsync is good cause you can shell through ssh03:04
godzirrabob2: ok, my laptop apparently doesnt03:04
bob2godzirra: perhaps your laptop has a buggy acpi implementation or something03:04
godzirranor does ACPI03:04
bob2godzirra: what does that page say about it?03:05
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drayenlinuxpoet, scp, does that use ftp as its backend (im haveing to use FTP asits what our ISP uses)03:05
skalpelhow do i use ident in ubuntu?03:05
bob2drayen: no03:05
linuxpoetdrayen: I am sure you isp supports scp... You don't use telnet right? You are using ssh03:05
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bob2skalpel: install nullidentd03:05
godzirrabob2: not sure what I'm supposed to be looking on that page tyet03:06
linuxpoetscp -r * user@myisp.com:/htdocs03:06
linuxpoetfor example03:06
skalpelk, thank you03:06
godzirralook at on that page rather03:06
vader1102is there any way to upgrade to Hoary from Warty, without the disk?03:06
bob2godzirra: er? is your laptop on there?03:06
skalpelbob2: jon@ubuntu:~$ install nullidentd03:06
skalpelinstall: too few arguments03:06
bob2vader1102: wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes03:06
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godzirraoh..  the page you sent me to doesnt exist.03:06
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BalthazarI'm running the xserver config, but my XFree86-4 file doesn't get overwritten, so it still tries to use the old file ( and still fails)03:06
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drayenlinux... hummm okay i will give it a try :D03:06
godzirraI missed that huge message up top :p03:06
bob2skalpel: of course, install is a verb, not a command03:06
naliothvader1102: dont you mean the opposite?03:07
naliothtritium: evenin'03:07
bob2skalpel: how do you normally install packages?03:07
tritiumhi nalioth03:07
bob2Balthazar: then read the top of the file03:07
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naliothgodzirra: you can always type /topic to see it again03:07
skalpelsorry, i used synaptic, so nm03:07
bob2Balthazar: and don't edit config files in future without a) reading the top and b) making a backup03:07
godzirranalioth: I meant finding specific docs :)03:07
bob2skalpel: then install the package with synaptic03:07
skalpelbob2: is that all i will have to do or do i need to run it afterwards?03:07
Balthazarbob2 The top of the file says to run that config command after doing a copy and an md5sum.  I did the copy, and the md5sum gave me permission denied, even though I sudo'ed it03:07
bob2skalpel: that's all03:07
blackgeckohi all ive just installed ubuntu in my lap but is so slow that even siwtching apps is slow, any ideas ???03:08
bob2godzirra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryPMResults03:08
BalthazarAlso, making a backup would be irrelvant in this case because I'm not putting my old video card back in03:08
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bob2Balthazar: then show us the command you ran and the error03:08
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godzirraah03:08
bob2Balthazar: no, it's not irrelevan; if you had a backup, you could put it back and dpkg-reconfigure would work again03:08
Balthazarbob2 If I could copy and paste between virtual consoles I would :S03:08
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Balthazarbob2 It didn't work the first time (unless you mean at install)03:09
bob2Balthazar: then there's not much anyone can do03:09
skalpelbob2: thank you03:09
godzirrabob2: no its not.  But it is on anotehr page saying ACPI is fully working (not with ubuntu though)03:09
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bob2ok03:10
blake_hey once i un commit can i commit them back???????03:10
blake_?03:10
bob2a) one question mark is plenty03:10
bob2b) you need to provide context when asking questions03:10
lilliputno one to try the bot ?03:10
kyncaniblackgecko: how much ram do you have ?03:11
humboltwhat would I use to make my eth0 only come up, when there is actually a network cable pluged in?03:11
blackgeckokyncani: 51203:11
bob2humbolt: install ifplugd03:11
lilliputit's based on the AI from ALICE project03:11
humboltwhat about laptop-net?03:11
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linuxpoethumbolt: net-plugd I think03:12
kyncaniblackgecko: more than enough then03:12
skalpeldoes anyone know how i can fix this?03:12
skalpel* *** k-lined for Open proxy found on your host, please visit www.njabl.org/cgi-bin/lookup.cgi?query=66.142.150.44 (2005/07/26 21.07)03:12
skalpel* *** Your hostmask is skalpel!foobar@adsl-66-142-150-44.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net03:12
blackgeckokyncani: P4 mobile 3.06 ghz, 512 ram ATI 345IGP03:12
robertjwaht's the minimum memory footprint for 2.12 goign to be?03:12
godzirrabob2: any idea?03:12
skalpeli think i have been hacked somehow03:12
bob2skalpel: fix your system03:12
bob2skalpel: if you're using ubuntu, that's highly unlikely03:12
sproingieskalpel: what are you running?03:12
skalpelubuntu03:12
kyncaniblackgecko: you should monitor system resources to find out what is eating everything03:12
skalpeli joined #260 on efnet last night and started having problems03:12
humboltdoes installing ifplugd resolve the "waiting for dhcp to find out, there is not dhcp" at bootup problem?03:13
bob2godzirra: does sudo /etc/acpi/lid.sh blank it?03:13
blake_i'll be more spesific then bob03:13
skalpel#2600, pardon me03:13
bob2humbolt: no03:13
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sproingieskalpel: you've probably been rooted.  have fun reinstalling03:13
skalpelam having trouble logging on certain servers on efnet and am having these problems on dalnet03:13
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bob2humbolt: a) not all cards can detect cables, b) dhcp can take forever, hence it waiting 20 seconds before giving up03:13
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blackgeckokyncani: im using xfce4 but its still slow03:13
godzirrabob2: uhh.. apparently I don't have an /etc/acpi03:13
skalpelsproingie: probably? how would i go about finding out?03:13
humboltno? it did in debian. well either laptop-net or ifplugd or both, I do not remember exactly.03:14
bob2godzirra: um, ubuntu includes03:14
robertjskalpel: what's your ip address right now, I'll port scan you, that will be a start03:14
bob2it03:14
sproingieskalpel: well if you're truly rooted, you probably don't.  not without some kind of rootkit detector bootable cd03:14
godzirrabob2: its not there.03:14
Xenguyskalpel: try installing and running 'chkrootkit'.  'rkhunter' (not yet packaged for Ubu) is well worth installing/running also03:14
bob2skalpel: have you run things from outside ubuntu?03:14
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bob2godzirra: how on earth did you install ubuntu?03:14
skalpelrobertj: 66.142.150.4403:14
kyncaniblackgecko: yeah, use system monitors like top or gnome-system-monitors. Take a special look at cpu usage and resident memory consumptions (that's what works best for me)03:14
godzirraI followed the--dud's ubuntu install with fluxbox which installs as server03:14
kyncaniblackgecko: meant gnome-system-monitor03:14
robertjskal: that website says it was added in 200403:15
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kyncaniblackgecko: also take a look at system logs (tail -f /var/log/syslog).03:15
bob2bah03:15
humboltbob2: my nic can detect cable plugin. and there sure was a way to get my debian to only start my interface (+dhcp) when a cable was plugged in.03:15
bob2the--dud: fix your guide so people get a usable system03:15
godzirraSorry. :/  which packages should I install?03:15
bob2kthxbye03:15
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blake_ok, in the document that you previously told me to open and read(/etc/apt/sources.net) it telles me that i need to un commit "the following 2 lines and the script below only reads 1 line of script here is a copy and paste03:15
godzirralol03:15
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godzirraits usable.. most people don't need acpi. :p03:15
bob2humbolt: ok!03:15
skalpelbob2: i have not run anything outside of ubuntu03:15
kyncaniblackgecko: if some hardware / bus is keeping the kernel busy with errors, you will see it in kernel logs03:15
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bob2presumably ifplugd does that then03:15
bob2godzirra: acpi-support03:15
robertjskalpel: thats old and probably not even from your machine03:16
bob2godzirra: but bear in mind you're missing lots of other useful packages03:16
blake_## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network03:16
blake_# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted03:16
royfor some reason i can't load my extensions on FF. nothing comes up when i click on Tools > Extensions. i'm running 1.0.6. can anyone help?03:16
blackgeckokyncani: the top is Xorg03:16
godzirrabob2: was that to me?03:16
bob2yes?03:16
zythCan anyone direct me to a decent page on the issues/costs with setting up a large building for wifi perhaps?  Kind of offtopic, but I figure there's enough people here who might know...03:16
kyncaniblackgecko: xorg is eating what, ram ? cpu ?03:16
bob2blackgecko: remove the # and the space after it03:16
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godzirrabob2: Oh. blake2 said that.. sorry.03:17
humboltbob2: but which one is the one that is more integrated in the boot process?03:17
skalpelrobertj: what is?03:17
godzirrai thought what blake2 said was somethin you said.03:17
CarlFKzyth - "it depends"03:17
blackgecko10.3 cpu 12.6 ram is at the top mos of the time03:17
robertjskalpel: that kline03:17
godzirraWOOHOO!03:17
bob2humbolt: why don't you just try and see?03:17
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skalpelrobertj: weird. the error i was getting before that one suggested i installed identd, which i had never had problems with before03:17
kyncaniblackgecko: that's not it. Check the system logs (tail -f /var/log/syslog)03:17
godzirrabob2: thanks tons :)  now I just need vgamode support03:17
liz4rdwhats that video player that starts with an h?03:17
CarlFKzyth - /join #wifi03:18
zythCarlFK, yeah, I figured that.  Basically, I've got a 2 floor fairly large building, walls are all drywall or wood... I need to get wifi over the whole place.  Just wondering what kind of hardware I need :/03:18
godzirraand I'm set :)03:18
zythahh cool03:18
roythe javascript console gives me this error: XML Parsing Error: no element found03:18
royLocation: jar:resource:///chrome/toolkit.jar!/content/mozapps/update/updates.xml03:18
royLine Number 1, Column 1:03:18
desmondhow can i listen music from www.di.fm???????03:18
zythCarlFK, thnx03:18
robertjskalpel: identd is a sign the server op is a tard03:18
bob2godzirra: you don't need to recompile for that, and using X is far simpler03:18
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humboltbob2: I rather ask the wise guys first.03:18
blackgeckokyncani: just dhcp logs03:18
godzirraI do use X... but I'd still like framebuffer support working... and I thought I needed to compile in vesa support?03:18
godzirrais it in by default?03:18
linuxpoetdesmod try using totem03:19
desmondhow do i listen music from di.fm????03:19
blake_bob2: when i enter the command in shell should it look like this????  $  uncommit deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted03:19
skalpelrobertj:mailto:skalpel!foobar@adsl-66-142-150-44.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net that is not the name i have specified in my irc client, someone changed it i believe, so what should i do?03:19
kyncaniblackgecko: no error raising again and again ?03:19
liz4rdwhats that video player that starts with an h?03:19
bob2blake_: where on earth did you get "uncommit" from?03:19
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blackgeckokincany: renewal in 266 seconds. is it not to shor lease time ?03:19
bob2blake_: uncomment is a different word to uncommit03:19
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bob2blake_: and I explained that "uncomment" meant "remove the # and leading space"03:19
blake_yeah03:20
blake_well03:20
drayenlinuxpoet, in a related question/problem, when i use the "connect to server" from places, i get "There is no default action associated with this location" - am i missing important packages?03:20
blake_i got confused03:20
bob2blake_: so, instead of going off on massive tangents, explain which bit you don't understand03:20
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blake_ooh no i'm calm03:20
blake_i haven't done anyting yet because i wasn't sure03:21
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kyncaniblackgecko: mmf, nothing's eating like 50-60 % of ram or cpu and you don't have errors flooding the kernel03:21
blake_do you recall the document you told me to read?03:21
cjserioHey folks...I'm having a makefile issue...i use recursion in my makefile and one of my rules is setup as "%.xpl:" so that anything with a .xpl extension gets caught but it's never getting caught...it worked fine on FC303:22
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blake_and how do you make your name red can i do that03:22
blackgeckokyncani: nop, its mi first ubuntu try ive used fedora and gentoo in the past and are a lot faster03:22
QMarioWhere can I get the latest Shockwave plugin?03:22
blake_letters*03:22
QMarioFor Mozilla Firefox on Ubuntu.03:22
bob2pretty sure shockwave doesn't exist on linux03:22
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BurgundaviaQMario, there is no shockwave for linux03:22
sproingiei think he means flash03:22
FormerWinXPUserhow can i set rhythmbox to play mp3s03:22
BurgundaviaFormerWinXPUser, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:23
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QMarioBurgundavia, what do you mean?03:23
bob2FormerWinXPUser: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:23
nalioth!tell FormerWinXPUser about restricted03:23
bob2which should be linked from the FAQ03:23
BurgundaviaQMario, there is a flash plugin but no shockwave plugin03:23
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kyncaniblackgecko: well, you could switch to an optimized kernel but that won't give you a magical boost in performance i think ..03:23
sproingieis macromedia even developing shockwave anymore?03:23
rob^bob2, it is going to be03:23
IIIEarsUsing streamtuner for a Xiph station i clicked on a link and now can't tune in to any stations XMMS isn't activated even after re-installing XMMS and Streamtuner. - What extension needs to be reinstalled?03:23
QMarioOh, okay.03:24
sproingiemacrodobe, i guess i should say03:24
ebrynanybody have any idea why my boot process would stop at INIT's "* version 2.86 booting" message?03:24
FormerWinXPUserso i cant use mp3s with rhythmbox at all, eh?03:24
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bob2FormerWinXPUser: er, sure you can, read that page03:24
cjserioActually, recursion isn't even the issue...i guess it's just that "%.xpl" fails no matter what i type03:24
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bob2cjserio: you'd have better luck asking on the user list or finding a gnu make list, I suspect03:24
boo_booneed help, all games that i run have no sound.  cd/mp3's play fine.  system beeps are ok.  any ideas?03:24
bob2pkill esd03:25
bob2run game03:25
bob2enjoy03:25
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cjseriobob2: which is the "user list03:25
kyncaniblackgecko: overall cpu usage is nowhere near 100% ?03:25
bob2cjserio: ubunut-users@lists.ubuntu.com03:25
cjseriook thanks03:25
blackgeckokincany: nop03:25
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moparfan90hello03:25
blake_or mabye can you point me in the right fourm where i can read about installing mplayer without haveing to compile anything .......somewhere that i can read what you were talking about when you were talking about ....wht you were talking about03:26
IIIEarsboo_boo - i am very new also. - but i think stopping the esd server process will give you sound for games. (esd allows two apps to share sound resources.)03:26
godzirrabob2: So how do I enable it vga mode in console?03:26
blake_that was for you bob03:26
Xenguybob2: hrm, are pkill and killall functionally equivalent BTW?03:26
blake_203:26
FormerWinXPUserand how do i get totem to play mpg and avi, wmv etc?03:26
skalpelwhat does it mean if an open proxy has been found on my host?03:26
bob2blake_: so, edit /etc/apt/sources.list as I explained03:26
kyncaniblackgecko: is this only X suffering performance losses or are the console apps unresponsive either ?03:26
bob2blake_: if you don't know how, then ask03:26
QMarioBob2, can't he also do System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector?03:26
moparfan90i was trying to open the file install-sh and when i open it, it says open in terminal... so then it does and closes 1 sec after. what do i do?????????03:26
sproingieXenguy: pkill and killall are basically the same on linux.  killall is a very different command in solaris03:27
blake_i opened that document03:27
bob2Xenguy: on linux, yes, but on solaris "killall" does what it says03:27
bob2QMario: don't know03:27
sproingiebob2: i remember using killall on solaris once.  as root.  on a server.03:27
blake_bob2 i opened that document03:27
bob2moparfan90: why are you touching that file at all?03:27
Xenguysproingie bob2 tx03:27
drayenWhen i use the "connect to server" from places, i get "There is no default action associated with this location" - am i missing important packages?03:27
QMarioHe could change the output for audio, from ESD to ALSA.03:27
blake_bob2 and i was reading it03:27
blake_what should i do with it03:27
bob2blake_: so, remove the "# " from the front of some of those lines03:27
moparfan90bob2 because i want to install it. do you know how?03:28
bob2godzirra: you pass correct FB options to it, I gather03:28
blake_<<<<FEALS LIKE AN IDIOT03:28
bob2moparfan90: you want to install install-sh?03:28
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blake_hahaha i didn't think it could be that easy03:28
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godzirrabob2: "it" being what?03:28
blake_it that all03:28
blake_bob203:28
skalpelhi i am having trouble with email addresses in xchat, i am not able to click on and use the 'mailto' option in my client, does anyone know why?03:28
bob2godzirra: the kernel at boot time03:28
FormerWinXPUserhow do i get totem to play popular video formats like mpg?03:28
bob2blake_: assuming you removed the right ones, yes03:28
blackgeckokincany: nop only at the x03:28
bob2FormerWinXPUser: again, read that page03:28
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FormerWinXPUseroh ok03:28
FormerWinXPUsersry03:28
moparfan90bob2, yes03:28
FormerWinXPUserthanks for everything guys03:29
blake_bob2 then what? apt-get install mplayer03:29
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bob2moparfan90: why?03:29
drayenFormerWinXPUser, try useing VLC instead :D03:29
bob2moparfan90: what are you really trying to do?03:29
kyncaniblackgecko: well, you could try different xorg configurations. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. good luck03:29
godzirrabob2: for some reason I don't have a grub.conf... thats where I was going to put the options.03:29
moparfan90bob2, do you know how to?03:29
bob2blake_: paste /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood03:29
bob2godzirra: grub.conf is a redhat/gentoo invention. /boot/grub/menu.lst03:29
bob2moparfan90: what are you really trying to do?03:29
godzirraahh, ok.03:29
moparfan90bob2, i am trying to install a gui wrapper for python03:29
bob2upstream calls it that03:29
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bob2moparfan90: called...03:29
blackgeckokincany: ok thanks03:30
moparfan90bob2, let me look03:30
kyncaniblackgecko: np, hope you will find out :)03:30
moparfan90bob2, http://www.tcl.tk/03:30
bob2ebryn: please don't03:30
Xenguyebryn: don't do that03:30
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troyis there any way to easily create an alternate installation disk: I need kernel 2.6.11 to recognise my SATA controller for the ATI chipset03:30
bob2moparfan90: so, stop right now, tcl and tk are in ubuntu03:30
moparfan90bob2, do you know a better one?03:30
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moparfan90oo03:30
blake_bob2 .....flood ......you mean like, paste that whee the pounds' usto be?03:30
godzirrabob2: do I need to run something after editing menu.lst?03:30
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blake_where*03:31
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bob2godzirra: no, but I'd highly recommend not touching it until you've verified your boot options work (ie boot into grub and edit and add them there)03:31
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IIIEarsbob2 - Is it four questions at once now? - amazed.03:31
bob2blake_: as in the irc channel #flood03:31
dave__Question: did anyone compile the latest Samba on Ubuntu?03:31
godzirrahrm.  where's a good howto on how to "boot into grub"03:31
dave__I need it for XP X64 support.03:31
Xenguyblake_: /join the IRC channel #flood, then paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list03:31
godzirraor do you mean reboot my linux box and try it on the command line as options to my kernel?03:31
bob2dave__: if you have a question about it, it's best to just ask03:31
troygodzirra: when the GRUB loader comes up, hit ESC03:32
bob2godzirra: yes03:32
blake_um..03:32
blake_ok03:32
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blake_brb03:32
moparfan90is anyone good at python and has some time to show me some stuff???????????????03:32
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IIIEars#ubuntu-bob2 - wide grin03:32
dave__Did anyone compile the latest Samba on Ubuntu?03:32
skalpelwhat is a good firewall to use with ubuntu?03:32
bob2moparfan90: www.python.org/doc/03:32
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bob2skalpel: you dont need one by default, but I quite like shorewall.  I hear firestarter is nice if you want a gui.03:33
bob2dave__: if you have a question about it, just ask03:33
neighborleeis there a fix for newly installed apps not showing up in menus ? ;-))) ..thx anyone03:33
dabaR!are you alive ubotu? if so, why are you ignoring me in private when I am identified03:33
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, dabaR03:33
bob2moparfan90: read the python tutorial03:33
dave__I did.03:33
moparfan90i did03:33
bob2neighborlee: use a menu editor like smeg to add them03:33
skalpelbob2: i like gui, is it in synaptic?03:33
Xenguyskalpel: shorewall03:33
bob2dave__: where?03:33
dave__Where can I get the latest debs?03:33
bob2skalpel: yes03:33
dabaR!info gthumb03:33
kyncaniskalpel: define good, simple, complete ?03:33
ubotugthumb: (an image viewer and browser for GNOME2), section gnome, is optional. Version: 3:2.6.3-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1617 kB, Installed size: 8292 kB03:33
IIIEarsskalpel - ubuntu denies packets by default. - but firestarter is a good choice as it allows a graphical configuration for internet sharing.03:33
neighborleebob2, ok next questoin then...is this being 'fixed' for breezy or is it being worked on at all do you know ?03:33
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bob2dave__: it's unlikely to be packaged for hoary, and breezy is highly broken03:34
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skalpeli like gui, and i like simple and complete03:34
moparfan90does anyone know python good and has time to show me some stuff???03:34
skalpelthe simpler the better03:34
bob2neighborlee: it was a concious decision03:34
boo_booIIIEars:  will i have to use pkill esd everytime i reboot03:34
Xenguyskalpel: I've heard 'firehol' is good also03:34
blake_bob203:34
blake_i did it03:34
neighborleebob2, dont understand..what was a conscious decision03:34
kyncaniskalpel: well, firestarter you go then (my opinion)03:34
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skalpelthank you03:34
dave__So bob2, how would you go about it?03:35
bob2blake_: now on the line "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates main restricted universe" add the word "multiverse" at the end (no quotes)03:35
cs378i need help with partitionin, i got 50 gb ntfs and 9.9 gb free space, how do i create a 500 mg swap partition?03:35
bob2dave__: download the source, compile it, install it in /usr/local/03:35
dave__I tried compiling the source, that was not a success story.03:35
IIIEarsboo-boo - erm - not too sure you couldn't add that command to any game configs as they start then restart esd after playing. - pretty sure there is a more elegant solution. just don't know it.03:35
bob2cs378: use cfdisk to make a new partition in the free space03:35
bob2dave__: paste the error to #flood03:35
blake_? ok ? brb03:35
Madpilotevening all03:36
bob2that's pretty amazing that MS made their own protocol 64-bit incompatible03:36
cs378bob2: i am currently installin kubuntu to a dual boot with windows03:36
dave__bob2, it is indeed.03:36
blake_you need to explain what this i sdoing once your done   (hahaha)03:36
cs378bob2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo says i need 500 swap partition03:36
bob2cs378: ok03:36
IIIEarsNew MS protocol?03:36
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IIIEarsbob2 - new MS protocol?03:36
bob2cs378: just choose the defaults03:36
FormerWinXPUseronce i install gstreamer is there any need for rhythmbox anymore because i know that totem can now play audio files.03:37
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bob2IIIEars: SMB apparently requires changes to work with the amd64 windows port03:37
bob2FormerWinXPUser: yes, rhythmbox uses gstreamer03:37
FormerWinXPUserbob2, i know03:37
godzirrabob2: not sure how to use grub fromm the commandline apparently.03:37
godzirraI'm trying to load a kernel frmo /boot but that doesnt work...03:37
FormerWinXPUseris there any need for it anymore because totem can now run mp3s and such03:37
dave__It does, bob203:37
cs378bob2: defaults?03:37
IIIEarsbob2 - Aagh - that would be funny if it weren't so typical. - linux making them nervous? - GOOD.03:38
sproingieMS didn't actually invent SMB, tho they extended it enough that they may as well have fixed it03:38
bob2godzirra: boot into menu.  hit e on the first item.  go to the line that ends in "ro" and hit e again, then append kernel command line args, hit enter, hit b03:38
dave__..building..03:38
bob2FormerWinXPUser: just leave it03:38
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FormerWinXPUserbob2, ok03:38
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bob2sproingie: yeah, I was just reading http://samba.org/cifs/docs/smb-history.html yesterday03:39
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IIIEarsbob2 - nice link - thanks03:39
bob2for some reason I thought samba started on digital unix03:39
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TokenBadhow get PSM for ubuntu?03:40
blake_bob2 i'm still here but i'm trying to do this while still staying in this name03:40
smackomg quick question.03:40
bob2blake_: ok...03:40
sproingiebob2: it's not that cifs is a terrible protocol, but implementations of it are *really* brittle03:40
blake_i need root privlages and i don't stay in root03:40
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smackwhen you install a new kernel with ubuntu does it make the initrd image or does it come with one?03:40
bob2TokenBad: as in crypto for mozilla?03:40
TokenBadpersonal security manager03:40
IIIEarswithout copyright protection MS can't move as fast as linux developers. - not too worried.03:40
smackIf I have modules specified in /etc/mkinitrd/modules will it put them in automatically?03:40
TokenBadwent to website03:40
ZugwrackNeed some help here...booting Ubuntu 64bit...loaded OHCI success..then it says ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.0: Unlink after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC setting may help??03:40
TokenBadsays can't load it without it installed03:40
bob2sproingie: heh, yeah, everytime tridge gives a talk at my lug he has some story about bugs they found in MS's implementation03:40
ChurcH_of_FoamYi need to get access to hdb1 and it has an ntfs partition how do i do this?03:41
bob2smack: you need extra modules in the initrd?03:41
cafuegobob2: features03:41
sproingiebob2: MS knows about those bugs.  they know if they fix 'em, they'll break a zillion third party apps that depend on 'em03:41
ChurcH_of_FoamYand no mount point03:41
bob2cafuego: hah03:41
dave__ChurcH_of_FoamY, mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /yourmountpoint03:41
smackbob2: ya I need md and raid103:41
bob2Zugwrack: booting with the "noapic" or "acpi=off" options might help03:41
TokenBadbob2 any ideas?03:41
bob2TokenBad: I don't know what you mean by PSM03:41
Zugwrackbob2: Thanks03:41
godzirrabob2: hrm.. that didnt work.  (the options I chose I mean :/  )03:42
smackbob2: I want to put my root filesystem on a raid.03:42
TokenBadpersonal security manager03:42
bob2TokenBad: mozilla and firefox have crypto built in03:42
IIIEarstrouble is linux has to sometimes conform to the same bugs if they want to implement an app.03:42
ChurcH_of_FoamYdave__: i haven't created a mount point yet03:42
TokenBadthis is for gallion03:42
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dave__mkdir /mountpoint03:42
TokenBador however spelled03:42
bob2godzirra: ok, I might be wrong, I've not bothered with fb since like 200203:42
sproingiei don't know why they didn't just start aggressively versioning the protocol03:42
TokenBadmozilla isn't loading the page either right03:42
bob2yeah03:42
bob2designing unversionable protocols seems remarkable stupid these days03:42
sproingiemaybe negotiating the protocol version is beyond the capabilities of any of the implementations03:42
bob2haha03:43
bob2smack: I think you need to rerun "mkinitrd" after editing that file03:43
godzirraWell, I can only find a gentoo framebuffer how to (and its actually a "splash screen" howto)03:43
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cafuegobob2: have they finished NFS via XMLRPC yet?03:43
bob2hahaha03:43
godzirraand it says that you need to supply options to the kernel... but its not working :/03:43
sproingiei seem to recall that getting the right NTLM hash is sort of a matter of sending successive messages until one of 'em manages to be understood03:43
cafuegobob2: You laugh, but I point at gmailfs ;-)03:43
sproingieand sometimes you end up sending both, and hosing security03:43
godzirraHrm.. I didnty specify a console03:43
godzirrashould CONSOLE = /dev/tty1?03:43
smackbob2: I'm just concerned that when the next release of ubuntu comes out I'll get a updated kernel and it will come with it's own initrd image and my raid won't start. :)03:44
dave__smack, leave the OLD kernel on at all times.03:44
smackbob2: I suppose I could just have apt hold the kernel package if it's going to be an issue.03:44
cafuegosmack: kernels don't just get overwritten with newer ones.03:44
bob2smack: yeah, I think it might03:44
smackahh! so when I update it will just put a new entry in my grub menu but I'll still have the old one there?03:44
bob2smack: right03:44
dave__Yes03:44
cafuegosmack: Indeed.03:44
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bob2it's possible they generate the initrd at runtime, too03:44
cafuegosmack: And you can also always tell it to not updat grub, so you can do it manually03:45
bob2anyway, work o'clock03:45
smackcafuego: where do I do that!?03:45
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok it won't let me view the contents of the drive from naut how do i do that?03:45
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cafuegosmack: /etc/kernel*something03:45
smackI know grub doesn't know how to pick up a /dev/md*03:45
dave__ChurcH_of_FoamY, run naut as root03:45
smackcafuego: thanks man!03:45
smackbob2 & dave thanks you guys also!03:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYum how?03:46
gometro33can someone help me setup my printer?03:46
bob2dude, no03:46
gigaclon!wireless03:46
ubotuwireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards03:46
bob2ChurcH_of_FoamY: sudo umount /mountpoint ; sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev/whatever /mountpoint03:46
|QuaD-bob2: i don'tk now if you got my msg before, i installed pump, then dist-upgraded and it worked out fine03:46
ChurcH_of_FoamYok03:46
|QuaD-bob2: i had the dhclient issue03:46
bob2|QuaD-: bizarro03:46
blake_bob2 so i make # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary  into this    deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/multiverse  hoary?03:47
bob2|QuaD-: is there a bug on dhclient about that?03:47
bob2blake_: no03:47
blake_ok then it's the other one03:47
blake_right03:47
blake_below that one03:47
godzirraUgh.03:47
gometro33what do i put in the "Location" field in the printer properties?03:47
bob2make "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe main restricted" "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe main restricted multiverse"03:47
godzirraI still cant get it to wrok.03:47
godzirradamnit.03:47
blake_ok brb03:48
dave__Compiled Samba, installed into /usr/local03:48
dave__Now I cant find smbd and nmbd03:48
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bob2find /usr/local/ -name "*mbd"03:48
blake_i added multiverse03:48
gigaclonanyone got the Linksys  WPC54G card working?03:49
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dave__Does not start, bob.03:49
gigaclonor the D-Link DWL-G63003:49
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gometro33can someone please help me setup my printer?03:49
gometro33???03:50
dave__bob2, it just won't work yes.03:50
dave__=yet.03:50
Zugwrackfsck...now the partitioning is failing...it wrote out the partitions...now it has been sitting at 100% for bout 2 minutes...can't be good...the drive light is lit up like a christmas tree...03:50
godzirragod, I wish I knew how to make my laptop never ever ever beep at me.03:50
blake_bob2 i added the multiverse to the line and that's it is tht all03:50
srianybody have a binary of xauth I culd use?03:50
godzirraOr at least not while I'm trying to do tab completion.03:50
Razor-XZugwrack: that fsck was ironic03:50
sribreezy's xbase-clients doesn't seem to have xauth included03:50
ZugwrackIndeed..03:50
srithus no vnc03:50
Razor-XZugwrack: sometimes, the drive may be serevely corrupted, but not dead03:51
ZugwrackLocked up the whole computer03:51
Razor-Xif/when you give up all hope of recovering data03:51
Razor-XPM me03:51
Zugwracknaw I had  a linux partition with suse on it I killed...03:51
bob2blake_: then "sudo apt-get update"03:51
Razor-Xso, there's nothing worth anything there?03:51
bob2blake_: then "sudo apt-get install mplayer-386"03:51
cohonenso how do i install apache with php 5.1.latest03:51
cohonenapache203:51
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blake_will try03:51
bob2cohonen: you can't, easily03:51
ZugwrackRazor-X: Nope03:51
godzirraAnyone know how to get beep to stop happening on tab completion?03:51
cohonenand select which modules in php5 i want active03:51
ChurcH_of_FoamYnow linux can not wright to an ntfs partition is that right?03:51
Razor-XZugwrack: if various partition managers fail03:52
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bob2godzirra: xset -b, in X03:52
cohonenbob2, dammit,, i should never have fried my lovely gentoo03:52
sriah, there is abug report on it.03:52
cohonen:'-(03:52
godzirraWhat about in console?03:52
Razor-Xtry getting dban (or using the included dban floppy emulator in System Resque CD) and doing a Quick Wipe03:52
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bob2cohonen: you can just compile it if you really want it03:52
bob2godzirra: setterm03:52
godzirrabob2: and can I put that in my ~/.xinitrc after exec fluxbox?03:52
sandisHi! Does anybody know how to shutdown computer after (for example) download completes?03:52
FormerWinXPUserwhich cd burner is better:  graveman or gnomebaker?03:52
abydosAre there any ubuntu packages of E17?03:52
bob2godzirra: no, fluxbox doesn't stop running until X is shutting down03:52
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bob2= xset will never be run03:52
dave__sandis: shutdown -h now03:52
bob2abydos: no03:53
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gometro33what do i put in the "Location" field in the printer properties?03:53
abydosbob2:  Bah, humbug.03:53
godzirraOh.  Can I put it before exec fluxbox then?03:53
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ZugwrackRazor-X: This is going from bad to worse...now I don't even get the bios back on my brand new AMD 3200+03:53
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dave__bob2, nmbd and smbd won't run, won't log to stdout...any ideas?03:53
bob2gometro33: "Office" or "Bathroom"03:53
cohonenbob2, so whats the lame and hard solution to my desire ?03:53
robertjZug: disconnect your hard drive03:53
bob2godzirra: yes03:53
gometro33ah ok03:53
blake_file:///etc/apt/sources.list03:53
bob2cohonen: compiling from scratch03:53
gometro33ty bob203:53
sandisdave__ - thanx03:54
brainsickI'm having problems getting printing working under Ubuntu -- do I need to do anything more than add the printer under System/Administration/Printing ?03:54
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Zugwrackrobertj: Shouldn't matter since it was hdb NOT hda03:54
bob2cohonen: or getting the source from dotdeb.org and making packages out of it03:54
cohonenbob2 ,,  now i really miss gentoo03:54
bob2ok03:54
HrdwrBoBbrainsick: you shouldn't need to03:54
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Zugwrackrobertj: What worries me is that I don't even see the BIOS screen come up03:54
robertjZug: disconnect the hard drive03:54
cohonenbob2, what if i just want php5 stable03:54
brainsickHrdwrBoB, I'm having cXXXXX files building up in /var/spool/cups, but nothing prints03:54
bob2cohonen: same deal03:55
cohonencan i then select what crap i want turned on?03:55
FormerWinXPUserwhich is better:  gnomebaker or graveman for CD/DVD creation?03:55
cohonenDammit03:55
bob2cohonen: sure03:55
cohonenehhh03:55
cohonenim confused ,, yes or no03:55
HrdwrBoBFormerWinXPUser: no idea, I use nautilus03:55
FormerWinXPUserbut nautilus cannot make audio cds03:55
bob2cohonen: ?03:55
HrdwrBoBbrainsick: is the printer paused?03:55
robertjZug: pull the sata/ide/scsi cable and the power and see if you get to the bios03:55
bob2cohonen: "if you compile it, you can pick whatever buggy php modules you like"03:55
cohonenoki03:55
bob2cohonen: "if you compile the package source, you can also pick whatever modules you like"03:56
brainsickHrdwrBoB, it is in a stand-by mode right now (it's a laser printer) -- I'm assuming activity on the port will wake it up03:56
cohonenbut what if i wanna have apt serve me03:56
bob2cohonen: then you go compile it for ubuntu, or find someone else who has03:56
HrdwrBoBbrainsick: I mean in the printer control panel03:56
bob2the reason there are no php5 packages for haory is because no one cared enough to do the work03:56
cohonenbob2, oki i want php5 with xsl turned on .. can i find a package that has that ?03:57
brainsickHrdwrBoB, it's got a checkmark in a blue box on the icon and the Properties/Status indicate that it's 'Ready: Printer off-line.'03:57
bob2cohonen: dude, this is a real OS03:57
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ZugwrackRazor-X: Does Ubuntu64 partition ext2?03:57
bob2cohonen: if there are php5 packages, then *every* module will be available, split up03:57
cohonenim sure it is03:57
cohonenaahhhh03:57
bob2cohonen: e.g. you'd install php5-xsl03:57
cohonenwell im only used to ehh not real oses03:57
|QuaD-bob2: sorry, i went afk for a moment, i dunno if there is a bug in dhclient, lemme check if it works without pump03:57
bob2if you want mysql, too, php5-mysql03:57
IIIEarsZugwrack - unlikely - Hoary uses ext303:57
cohonenbob2, thx03:58
bob2Zugwrack: ext3, just like every other ubuntu port03:58
bob2(it's "amd64", btw, not "64"03:58
|QuaD-bob2: dhclient is working fine now, i don't know what the problem was03:58
boo_booIIIears: having trouble mounting ntfs partition on hdb03:58
ZugwrackHmmmm.then why does it show ext2 in the partitioning phase?03:58
occyare these "new" (to me) USB external hard drives setup so you can run directly off of them?03:58
robertjZug: does it come up now?03:58
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dave__Occy, as in MOUNT or BOOT FROM?03:58
occydave__, boot from I reckon.03:59
occymounting should be easy.03:59
IIIEarsboo_boo - give me a sec i have a link03:59
RaptorI need to make a boot disk for an old computer.....how can i do that?03:59
CarlFKoccy - it is the bios that will determine if you can boot from a USB HD, not thge HD03:59
occyCarlFK, ahhh...03:59
cohonenbob2 now thats smart03:59
robertjRaptor: why do you need a boot disk?04:00
occythat sorta makes sense.04:00
occys/sorta/does/04:00
brainsickI don't even know how to debug this printing problem -- nothing seems to be showing up in any logs04:00
cohonenbob2, ill give ubuntu a little longer time then04:00
cohonen:-)04:00
Madpilotbob2: if I'm having trouble logging into the Ubuntu Wiki, are you the person to talk to?04:00
IIIEarsboo_boo - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/518  (Thanks Seveas : )04:00
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dave__brainsick, can you log to stdout?04:00
Raptorthe bios wont allow me to boot from a cd....it has to be a disk04:00
dave__brainsick, increase verbosity?04:00
milfhi04:00
brainsickdave__, if you can walk me through how to do that, I'd love to try it04:01
milfi cant seem to find anywhere to turn on the 2nd monitor i have looked everywhere04:01
milf:(04:01
bob2Madpilot: more like henrik, I guess04:01
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dave__What print server are you using?04:01
brainsickmilf, I had to edit the xorg.conf manually and enable xinerama and add additional sections for the additional monitor04:01
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CarlFKRaptor https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto04:02
Madpilotbob2: he doesn't seem to be here on #ubuntu right now. is there an email addy somewhere on the wiki that I've missed?04:02
milfis it easy?04:02
brainsickmilf, it's mostly a cut-and-paste job -- are your monitors identical?04:02
ZugwrackAll I can say is good luck on the 64 bit cuz it shure as heck don't work on my box...oh well back to Suse...04:02
bob2Madpilot: can you login to launchpad?04:02
milfno lol04:02
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bob2Zugwrack: can you pelase file bugs?04:02
milfone is a tv other is a monitor04:02
Madpilotbob2: yes, I can. no wiki login, tho. not for days now, but launchpad works fine04:03
brainsickmilf, oh ... I'm not sure how to set that up, then ;)04:03
bob2odd04:03
milfhehe04:03
milfplasma is good but im stuck04:03
CarlFKmilf - what vidio chip?  (I can help if it is i810)04:03
milfits a gf2 lol04:03
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milfi dont know the chip off the top of my head04:04
milfi saw a setting somewhere but i cant find it04:04
drummerNeed some help with a printing issue.04:04
bob2Madpilot: henrik@ubuntu.com. I think04:05
milfwell i guess ill hunt it down thanks :)04:05
Madpilotbob2: thanks. I've already tried resetting my pw - twice - no luck there04:05
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airmikeyanyone here on wirless laptop ?04:06
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chrisme04:06
giardinozup04:06
giardinoi've got a question04:06
dave__airmikey, I am.04:06
giardinoi've just installed ubuntu 5.04 amd 6404:06
drummerI hav e an HP laserjet 4050.  Ubuntu sends the print job to the printer - it says it's processing the job then goes back to ready.  Printer was working before the Ubuntu install.04:07
giardinoand X dont show up04:07
airmikeydid u connect to the net pretty easly04:07
giardinoi already test it with a 6600GT an it goes up04:07
giardinomy current vga is a x800xl04:07
dave__airmikey, I did. What nic do you have.04:07
giardinowhat to do?04:07
dave__giardino, what brand is that?04:07
giardinotha 6600gt is gygabyte04:08
airmikeyinter 220004:08
chrisATI probably04:08
giardinoand my x800xl is ati04:08
airmikeyintel 220004:08
dave__With ati, the fglrx drivers work great.04:08
giardinooh... so how i configure it04:08
dave__Install them with apt-get or Synaptic04:08
giardinoohh04:08
giardinoi see04:08
giardinoanother question04:08
fortysixand2I stil can't get 3d accel with the fglrx drivers04:08
giardinohow do i log with the root04:08
giardinowhich is the password of root04:09
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Madpilot!sudo04:09
giardinoim noob @ linux :P04:09
uboturumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:09
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dave__giardino, no passwd. Use sudo bash for a root shell04:09
giardinooks04:09
Madpilotgiardino: see the URL that ubotu just posted04:09
giardinoTHX04:09
orac7000giardino: when it says password, enter your own04:09
dave__And Giardino, modify xorg.conf in /etc/X11 to have fglrx as driver.04:09
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krocdoes ubuntu work on powerbooks?04:10
benplautit should04:10
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airmikeyshould i have the ethernet plugged in while loading ubuntu....before trying to connect with the wireless ?04:10
dave__giardino, add this to xorg.conf to prevent lockups: Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no04:10
krocso can i have both ubuntu and OSX on it?04:10
dave__Put it in the Driver section.04:10
blake_bob204:10
dave__Yes Kroc.04:10
krockool04:10
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dave__But fairness tells me to inform you Yellowdog is the best distro for Macs, kroc04:11
ksmurfhello all04:11
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giardinothx!04:11
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dave__giardino, the last "no  should be "no"04:11
ksmurfanyone have luck with madwifi (athreos) and wpa-psk ?  pls fill me in04:11
dave__Make sure to reboot after installing fglrx and modifying xorg.conf, giardino04:12
giardinook04:12
giardinothx04:12
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dave__fglrxinfo should show your card after the reboot, giardino04:13
cohonenanyone using php and apche on ubuntu04:13
FormerWinXPUsercan i adjust the speed at which Sound Juicer rips a CD?04:13
cohonenit seems modphp doesnt get setup with apache2 automagically04:13
Madpilotcohonen: yeah, but I'm a total LAMP noob04:13
Madpilotbut my PHP4 install does work04:13
cohonenMadpilot, do i really have to fix conf files manually to get php running on apache04:13
cohonen??04:14
FormerWinXPUsercan i adjust the speed at which Sound Juicer rips a CD?04:14
CarlFKcohonen - no.04:14
Madpilotcohonen: on my machine, apache2/php4 & mySQL "just worked"04:14
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dave__FormerWinXPUser, do not repeat yourself.04:14
ksmurfI'm useing it to learn it cohonen04:14
FormerWinXPUsersorry dave04:15
enohi what is a good programming channel?04:15
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cohonenGrrr04:15
FormerWinXPUsereno, #cpp04:15
cohonencArl i did install php504:15
cohonenmod-php504:15
enoleave it to an XP user to send me to a channel with no one in it04:15
cohonenthen apparently apache2 wasnt installed so i installed that afterwards04:15
giardinodave04:15
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cohonenand now its fucked04:15
enoWindoze Blowz!04:15
FormerWinXPUsereno, stfu04:15
ksmurfanyone know about madwifi and wpa psk?04:15
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FormerWinXPUsereno, keyword former04:16
IIIEarseno - ircspy.com is a pretty good place to find all public channels04:16
enojust joking sorry for the offensiveness04:16
Madpilot!lamp04:16
ubotumethinks lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary04:16
FormerWinXPUsereno me too04:16
eno:P04:16
giardinois it apt-get fglrx04:16
Madpilotcohonen: see the URL that ubotu just posted, pls04:16
ksmurf!wpa04:16
ubotuWish i knew, ksmurf04:16
cohonenubotu, appently  not04:16
ubotucohonen: I don't know04:16
ksmurf!wpa-psk04:16
ubotuksmurf: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?04:16
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dave__FormerWinXPUser, see miss tina's comment on this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-957.html04:16
cohonenubotu, ill look at it04:16
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, cohonen04:16
ksmurf!wireless04:16
ubotuwireless is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards04:16
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Madpilotcohonen: uBOTu - it's a bot... ;)04:17
Madpilot!ubotu04:17
ubotusomebody said ubotu was uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu!04:17
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Madpilotbe nice to the bot, man!04:17
IIIEarsubotu you are getting pretty smart nice links dude!04:18
ubotuIIIEars: I think you lost me on that one04:18
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Madpilotbesides, I added the "most coherent poster" comment to that ubotu entry...04:18
benplautmy respoinses are limited. you must ask the right question04:18
dave__Well, you were on the mark there, Madpilot.04:18
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IIIEarsMadpilot - nice touch.04:18
dave__benplaut, will you marry me?04:18
benplautno04:18
gigaclonis there a way to pass esd command line argument when ubuntu starts up?04:19
Madpilotit got added after a frustrating evening here... ;)04:19
LED_scorchedok..i feel stupid even asking this...but how do you turn off x server?04:19
smackI'm thinking about doing a root filesystem on raid how-to if I get mine working. No ones' done that right?04:19
smackfor mirroring.04:20
dave__LED_scorched, /etc/init.d/gdm stop04:20
LED_scorchedthank you dave04:20
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smackit'd be pretyt swank to write a script that does it and just prompts you for the needed info.04:20
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IIIEarsubotu killx is /etc/init.d/gdm stop works for Gnome /etc/init.d/kdm is the command for KDE "Kubuntu"04:21
ubotuIIIEars: okay04:21
smackomg I need another cpu. I got rhythmbox loading up my 20GB mp3 collection and my whole comp is skippy.04:21
ksmurfLED u can crash X or killall gdm or kdm04:21
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cohonenzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz04:22
boo_booIIIEars: got the drives mounted, but now I cannot view them, no permission04:22
IIIEarsforget killx04:22
ksmurfanyone have luck with WPA encrytion and madwifi drivers?04:23
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FormerWinXPUseris there a better gnome cd ripper than sound juicer.....one that is much faster preferably?04:23
Madpilotubotu forget killx04:23
ubotui forgot killx, Madpilot04:23
HrdwrBoBFormerWinXPUser: erm04:23
cohonenpiece of crap04:23
FormerWinXPUsererm?04:23
HrdwrBoBFormerWinXPUser: the speed is generally determined by your hardware04:23
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IIIEarsbob2 - Help. (being new is rough) - can you field boo_boo's question. PLEASE>04:23
HrdwrBoBFormerWinXPUser: ensure that DMA is on04:24
Madpilotcohonen: what's a piece of crap?04:24
HrdwrBoBhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA04:24
FormerWinXPUserhow do i enable DMA04:24
FormerWinXPUseroh nvrmind04:24
cohonenMadpilot, apt04:24
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IIIEars!dma04:24
cohonenunless04:24
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IIIEars somebody said dma was Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-).  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DMA04:25
flughi do hdparm -d1 /dev/<whatever>04:25
dave__IIIEars, man hdparm04:25
gigaclonis there a way to pass esd command line argument when ubuntu starts up?04:25
bob2boo_boo: you need to pass it the umask=000 option, however youre mounting it04:25
dave__Better yet. /etc/hdparm.conf04:25
ksmurfgiga ... a shell script04:25
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IIIEarsbob2 - Thank You.04:25
boo_boobob2:  how do I do that04:26
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cohonenapache2 doesnt work with php5 :-(04:26
cohonenvery dissapointing04:26
HrdwrBoBcohonen: it does work04:26
HrdwrBoBit's just not packaged04:26
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ksmurfcohonen IT will...04:27
dave__gigaclon, in /etc/esound/esc.conf04:27
dave__gigaclon, in /etc/esound/esd.conf04:27
cohonenksmurf, what do i need to do04:27
cohonenthe guide says it just works, which is a lie obviosly04:27
dave__Add your options in default_options, gigaclon04:27
cohonenseems like i need to tell apache2 to fire up mod php04:28
gigaclonthanks04:28
dave__cohonen, with a2enmod04:28
Madpilotcohonen: php4 just works...04:28
cohonenwell php4 is oldschool04:29
dave__Night, guys. And remember, Ubuntu X64 roxxorz04:29
cohonenwats a2enmod?04:29
IIIEarsg'nite dave__04:29
cohonenwhats04:29
Madpilotcohonen: as far as I can tell, php4 is what's being used on live websites, still...04:29
ksmurfanyone help me with WPA and madwifi?04:30
cohonenwell oki04:30
cohonenleeme tjeck php404:30
cohoneni just apt-get install php4 right ?04:30
ksmurfor use synsptic04:30
ksmurfor use synaptic04:31
Madpilot!lamp04:31
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary04:31
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Madpilotcohonen: check that LAMP for Hoary page, it's got all the details you need04:31
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cohonenhmmm04:32
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cohonennot much details there04:33
Madpilotenough to get everything running on my machine...04:33
cohonenyea ill try and see with mine04:33
cohonenaha04:33
Madpilotyou can use Synaptic instead of apt-get; I prefer a GUI to CLI myself...04:34
cohonenphp4 install a lot more stuff than php504:34
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bloggernautai need some help, but i'm a newbie and brazilian (bad english speaker)04:36
bloggernautahelp with identify a eth0 device (that is already installed but not appear on the firestarter) ow boy :(04:37
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bloggernautai have really a lot of problems with ubuntu/linux but i want to learn.... i don't want to be a begginer for too long04:38
rob^bloggernauta, you dont need to have a firewall04:38
cohonenhmmmhmhmhmhmhmmmhh04:39
bloggernautai'm using one because they do the configurations automatically04:39
rob^bloggernauta, does your nic work without the firewall running?04:39
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cohonenstill not working04:40
cohonenbuuuuh04:40
cohonen:-(04:40
bloggernautai could not configure it04:40
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poningru!iptable04:40
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, poningru04:40
poningru!iptables04:40
ubotuponingru: Are you smoking crack?04:40
Madpilot!firestarter04:40
ubotuMadpilot: No idea04:40
poningruhmm04:40
Madpilot!firewall04:40
ubotuhmm... firewall is program to stop intruders. Ubuntu comes with iptables. Graphical front-end: Firestarter04:40
IIIEarsamnesiac bot04:41
poningrudid someone delete everything?04:41
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Madpilot!list04:41
ubotuI guess list is at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:41
rob^bloggernauta, get the network card working first before worring about firewalls04:41
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bloggernautai'm using firestarter04:41
Madpilotyou can check that URL and see what ubotu currently remembers...04:41
NecrosanI just accidentally rm -f'd a dir04:41
Necrosanis there anything I can do to get it back?04:41
poningrurob^: it seems his eth0 is working04:41
Necrosani just need a yes/no04:41
rob^Necrosan, no04:41
Necrosanand that FUCKING sucks.04:41
poningruits just not being recognized in the firestarter gui04:41
NecrosanFUCK04:41
bloggernautaall right, you bet, but how i do this :S04:41
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philips_I am trying to start cupsys and I am getting StartListening: Unable to bind socket for address 7f000001:631 - Cannot assign requested address.04:42
IIIEarsNecroscan - please be polite here Ubuntu humanity to others04:42
rob^poningru, if its working then it will be, you just have to enter the prefernces and enable it04:42
philips_StartListening: Unable to bind socket for address 7f000001:631 - Cannot assign requested address.04:42
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Speedy2Hey all.  I didn't find Eclipse 3.1 in the Ubuntu repos -- is it there?  I'm hoping for a gcj'ed version04:42
NecrosanYeah, delete some crucial files once04:42
NecrosanThen see how polite you are.04:42
rob^Necrosan, its your own fault not ours04:43
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philips_There is nothing else running on 631 but it won't start04:43
NecrosanYeah, when did I say it was your fault?04:43
NecrosanMoron.04:43
rob^bloggernauta, in chan04:43
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CarlFKNecrosan - consider yourself warned.04:43
IIIEarsNecrosan - it's not simple but yes - linux forensics. the penguin sleuth kit or helix04:43
poningruSpeedy2: what are you looking for?04:43
poningrueclipse?04:43
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bloggernautai try to understand, but it's too messages at the same time04:44
Speedy2poningru: Yes, the IDE04:44
poningruoh04:44
thenostradamusanyone know if vmware has to be run as root??04:44
bloggernautaspeedy2 are u brazilian?04:44
Speedy2bloggernauta: No.04:44
poningruyeah no clue speady sorry04:44
NecrosanI'll just redo all my work.04:44
boo_booIIIEars:  thanks for all of your help, started to figure it out finally04:44
rob^bloggernauta, what does your Preferences -> Firewall -> Network Settings say in firestater?04:44
NecrosanNo point trying and screwing around with this.04:44
bloggernautaoh forgive me04:44
Speedy2bloggernauta: no problem.04:44
Speedy2I know I've seen Eclipse somewhere in the Ubuntu repos before04:44
IIIEarsboo_boo - Pay it forward! ;)   "windows users" "Linux communitty"04:45
bloggernautarob^: i find the card eth0 and eth1 (the internet card) but i cannot configure the eth0 because in the boot sequence a message show up saying that eth0 card is no ready or something like that04:45
poningruNecrosan: you may be able to recover stuff if you have another computer04:46
poningruand you didnt trash your hd04:46
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rob^bloggernauta, what does System -> Administration -> Networking say about eth0?04:46
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jcarrcan I run oracle on ubuntu?04:47
rob^jcarr, yes04:47
rob^dont know how, but its possible04:47
jcarrhow!? I downloaded the linux download and tried to install it04:47
Necrosanponingru, it was just the contents of one directory04:47
Necrosanconfig files for something04:48
poningruoh04:48
Necrosan:/04:48
jcarrChecking operating system version: must be redhat-3, SuSE-9, redhat-4, UnitedLinux-1.0, asianux-1 or asianux-204:48
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bloggernautaer... i find system (sistema), but can't find administrator04:48
poningrujcarr: how does it download?04:48
poningruas in what kind of package does it come in?04:48
HrdwrBoBjcarr: may require advanced fudging :)04:48
HrdwrBoBjcarr: why do you want oracle04:48
IIIEarsSuse is .deb isn't it? - so there is hope.04:48
jcarran install script...04:48
MadpilotNecrosan: will re-installing the program not restore the default configs?04:48
jcarrmay have to hack it04:48
poningrujcarr: no clue then04:48
rob^yep04:48
poningruyeah hack away04:48
HrdwrBoBjcarr: look up oracle on debian04:49
HrdwrBoBodds are it'll be the same04:49
poningruis oracle that peoplesoft thing?04:49
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HrdwrBoBoracle is a database04:49
poningrumade by?04:50
HrdwrBoBoracle04:50
poningruor recently bought by?04:50
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HrdwrBoBoracle04:50
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HrdwrBoBgoogle for oracle04:50
IIIEarsheh04:50
HrdwrBoByou can't really miss it04:50
CarlFKMySql, Postgresql, Ms Sql, Oracle, Informix, and a few others...04:50
CarlFKSyBase04:50
Speedy2So no one here has installed Eclipse ?04:50
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poningruhttp://www.peoplesoft.com/corp/en/public_index.jsp04:51
poningrutake a look there HrdwrBoB04:51
FormerWinXPUserwhy is my cd burning so slow?  dma is enabled but i never experienced this problem before04:51
poningruwhat are you using?04:51
FormerWinXPUsergnomebaker04:51
airmikeytryin to load ubuntu on my laptop...when i first put in the cd it takes off then i get a black screen04:51
poningruno as in what are you trying to burn it with04:51
Madpilotyou can turn the burn speed up04:52
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FormerWinXPUserhow?04:52
SePahalgum do brasil?04:52
Jugani just installed wine in hoary, and I tried to configure it using winetools, but I got a message which says that installed.reg cannot be found...how do i fix this?04:52
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CarlFKhdparm.conf lists a ton of settings, and the cdrom example has dma, interrupt_unmask and io32_support - how does one find the proper settings?04:52
MadpilotFormerWinXPUser: "Burn Speed" is one of the settings before you start burning04:52
IIIEarsairmikey - i am pretty new to this but check the cheat codes in the F1-4 keys - guessing it is a Framebuffer needs to be enabled for your lcd/tft screen.04:53
vinboyhow do I refer to the ip of the local machine?04:53
vinboyis it always 127.0.0.1?04:53
airmikeyhmm04:53
CarlFKvinboy - yes, or localhost04:53
vinboyic04:54
vinboythanks04:54
jcarr10 Gig logfile04:54
FormerWinXPUsermadpilot, yes but its at 52 which is the highest for my burner (52x) and its the same as before when it was 704:54
jcarroh, how can I open and read this 10 gig logfile!?04:54
cs378i just installed kubuntu successfully, im at KInfoCenter right now, n it shows that i have Intel P M 1.5 on the model name, but the cpu MHz is 599.64204:54
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CarlFKjcarr- vi, less, grep...04:54
MadpilotFormerWinXPUser: huh. no idea, then. I just let it take whatever time it needs, and find something else to do!04:54
FormerWinXPUserright04:54
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rob^!list04:55
ubotuwell, list is at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:55
IIIEarsCarlFK - how would you tell your app to rotate log files at a certain size?04:55
rob^ubotu forget list04:55
ubotui forgot list, rob^04:55
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vinboylinux is alot more better than 2 years ago04:56
vinboymore usable04:56
Madpilotrob^: do you not want that list available?04:56
CarlFKIIIEars - http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/admin/logrotate04:56
rob^ubotu list is at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuFactoids04:57
uboturob^: okay04:57
rob^Madpilot, thats why04:57
Madpilotrob^: got it. forgot about the wiki page...04:57
IIIEarsCarlFK - Grateful. - Thanks04:57
CarlFKIIIEars - you're welcome04:58
airmikeyIIIEars: yeah once turned off lcd in bios  ubuntu started loading04:58
cs378anyone help with the cpu speed plzz04:59
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cs378i just installed kubuntu successfully, im at KInfoCenter right now, n it shows that i have Intel P M 1.5 on the model name, but the cpu MHz is 599.64204:59
CarlFKcs378 - so?05:00
rob^cs378, try #kubuntu05:00
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cs378shouldnt the speed be 1500 mhz05:00
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cs378but intead 599 mhz05:00
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iKtomi\o05:00
ColonelKernelok back05:00
IIIEarsWB05:00
jcarrwhen does a difference engine become a search for truth?05:00
ChadzaIs it a Pentium M processor?05:00
CarlFKcs378 - it may be slowed down because it has nothing to do05:00
ChadzaLaptop chip?05:00
cs378intel05:01
thr1cecs378, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz05:01
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cs378ill try tha05:01
jcarrwhat's the cheat to enter god mode in linux05:01
Chadzasudo05:01
Speedy2idspopd05:02
Speedy2idkfa05:02
Speedy2iddqd05:02
cs378wa the hell05:02
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cs378on console05:02
cs378when i type in su05:02
cs378to go into admin mode05:02
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IIIEarssudo? or  gksudo yourapp.    as root05:02
pepsihi05:02
cs378oh sudo?05:02
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pepsiwhy does it take 10 seconds to launch mozilla-firefox in ubuntu while it takes 2 seconds in debian?05:02
frankIs anyone here good at scripting?05:02
cs378whats the default pasword for enterin su in console? (newly installed)05:03
IIIEarscs378 - ubotu has a great link. - best i have read.05:03
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IIIEars!rootsudo05:03
ubotuI heard rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:03
ColonelKernelpepsi - I dont kow - it is nice and fast in my ubuntu install - the first time you run it it'll take a bit because its writing a bunch of data to your use dir05:03
ColonelKerneluser dir05:03
thr1cepepsi, loads instantly here05:04
ColonelKernel.mozillla/mozilla-firefox and the such05:04
ColonelKernelafter that its pretty much instant here too05:04
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ksmurfanyone help me with WPA and madwifi?05:04
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pepsiwell once its already running, of course a new window will open immediately05:04
ColonelKernelno I meant once you run it once, from that point forth it should be nice and fasrt05:05
ColonelKernelonce its written that data to your home dir05:05
vinboyhi05:05
IIIEars!wifi05:05
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto05:05
vinboyis there any good clipboard daemon?05:05
ksmurfwhat's the difference between vim emacs and nano?05:05
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frank234i'm having problems with xmms and mplayer - i open a file and press play and it freezes - but otherwise i can play the same music clip in rhythmbox or some other player05:05
IIIEarsksmurf did that help?05:05
vinboybcoz everytime I close an app. the stuff in the clipboard is removed05:05
ColonelKernelksmurf, im pretty sure vim and emacs are for programming, while nano is just a straight text editor05:06
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ksmurfears no it didn't05:06
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IIIEarsnano is much easier. vim and emacs require a bit of practice to use effectively.05:06
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ksmurfK .... And I was just using gedit..... I'm such a putz05:07
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konkifinally, ubuntu solved basic mathmatics... yea!05:08
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slashzeroI'm having trouble with my loopback interface, it doesn't start automatically, if I call ifup lo, it'll load but otherwise it doesn't doesn't load, any ideas?05:08
konkifirefox 1.0.605:08
IIIEarsgedit works for me (usually just cheat and launch it with gksudo. - it won't do all files that way but most.)05:08
bob2konki: er, calling 1.0.2 + security fixes 1.0.6 would be rather crap05:08
ColonelKernelslashzero, in /etc/network/interfaces make sure you have an auto lo setting05:08
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iKtomiwhat package provides teh command java? (apt-cache search java gave so much I think I lost it in the scrollback)05:08
ksmurfEars I launch a term and then sudo gedit05:09
ColonelKernelslashzero, auto lo05:09
ColonelKerneliface lo inet loopback05:09
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bob2iKtomi: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java05:09
IIIEarsksmurf - yes gksudo gedit05:09
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konkibob2, well i won't have any more problems with fixing bugs for firefox extensions....05:09
ColonelKernelthe chairman of the wcw is here05:09
iKtomithanks bob205:09
ksmurfColonelKernel tahnks05:09
frank234i've downloaded the mplayer package but i cant get it to play a wmv file. can anyone help?05:09
ksmurfcool wcw I remebebr that05:09
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slashzeroah ha!05:10
thr1cefrank, codecs05:10
slashzeroit was missing, thanks05:10
ColonelKernelLaParka was a mexican lucha libre wrestler who liked to bad people with chairs.05:10
konkiiKtomi, java does not work for ubuntu i385...05:10
ColonelKernels/bad/bash05:10
airmikeyi put in the key for the wireless point but still wont connect do i need to finish loading ubuntu first....or should i be connecting before ubuntu is finished05:10
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ksmurfEars that was cool thanks. U taught me something05:10
bob2airmikey: wep? wpa?05:10
LED_scorchedi'm having trouble installing an NVIDIA grahics card05:10
airmikeywep05:11
konki@least not on my system... installed java with alot of problems...05:11
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thr1ceLED_scorched, stick it in the PCI slot05:11
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LED_scorchedlol.. done that05:11
thr1ceor agp05:11
ksmurfI'm looking for wpa help05:11
frank234led_scorched: sudo apt-get install nvidia-drivers ?05:11
bob2airmikey: does it work if you disable wep?05:11
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LED_scorchedgoes throught the boot up, but my GUI never comes up05:11
IIIEarsksmurf - "Linux community" "windows users" - Pay it forward! :)05:11
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airmikeyim in the middle of installing ubuntu05:11
ksmurfEars?05:12
thr1cetry dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:12
frank234led_scorched: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx05:12
frank234sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings and then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable05:12
konkican one change from LILO to GRUB with a simple command on the terminal??05:12
arbi1helo...... how do i disable a service from my current run level.. i used to use chkconfig in redhat... what about here in ubuntu?05:12
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IIIEarsksmurf - stick around teach new users.:)05:12
CarlFKkonki - yes: grub.05:12
hollywoodbif the correct way to disable startup/shutdown scripts is to chmod -x the scripts in /etc/init.d/ , why do I then end up with 'permission denied' errors on shutdown, and how to get rid of them?05:12
konkiCarlFK, for reals?? that was simple thanks...05:13
frank234how does one go about playing wmv files on linux?05:13
Speedy2hollywoodb: I had the same problem.  I just found it easier to delete the unwanted services, given I knew I wouldn't want them again05:13
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airmikeybob2: in the middle of installing ubuntu...it asked for key  but not connecting05:13
thr1cefrank234, i told you, install the codecs05:13
IIIEarsSpeedy2 - "w32codecs"05:13
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Speedy2IIIEars: You meant to direct that to frank23405:13
CarlFKkonki - well, that was the "simple command" - but you wil then be at a grub prompt and have to enter a few other commands05:14
konkiCarlFK, that was some bs...05:14
frank234thr1ce: which codec? i've already got w32codecs05:14
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thr1cefrank234, then you can play them :)05:14
airmikeybob2: i know the key is good cause i jus put in my sons laptop ..hes running xp05:14
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ksmurfEars I will05:14
LED_scorchedthr1ce:  what should i choose then from xorg?05:14
LED_scorchednvidia isnt listed05:14
WEEEwill ubuntu show updates for software not installed?05:14
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frank234thr1ce: i wish that were so, but mplayer wont play it05:14
konkioh.. thanks again CarlFK... vn command...05:14
thr1ceLED_scorched, well, something that will just allow you into X; then use the driver05:15
IIIEarsSpeedy2 - you can find it by enabling synaptic repositories "universe community suppported"  - ubotu has some more info !codecs or !restrictedformats05:15
frank234any idea?05:15
CarlFKkonki - you will probably want a menu.lst file that defines what gets booted from where - kina like lilo.conf05:15
Speedy2IIIEars: Tell *frank234*05:15
frank234!restrictedformats05:15
ubotuit has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'05:15
ksmurfnv works05:15
_maydayjay_Does anyone know how to get Crossover menus working in Kubuntu?  I have done the apt-get install menu -- update-menus and it only gives me the Crossover menu ... not the Windows Applications menu05:15
IIIEarsSpeedy2 - (sheepish grin)05:15
frank234ubotu, tell frank234 about codecs05:16
sonoHello dudes, is anybody having problems with Ubuntu64 and OpenOffice Gnome integration?05:16
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madclicker_hola05:16
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depravehello!05:16
ksmurfmayday.... do u have any winproggies installed?05:16
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WEEEwill ubuntu show updates for software not installed?05:16
madclicker_anyone here on 955 intel chipset?05:16
Netslayerhow would i go about having a dual ubuntu and kubuntu setup? i hear you can just install kubuntu ontop of ubuntu?05:16
sonono WEEE05:16
_maydayjay_ksmurf - Yes... IE, iTunes, etc....05:16
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WEEEok05:17
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citrushow do i stop and start and restart services in UBUNTU05:17
arbi1does rc.local work in ubuntu?05:17
Speedy2Netslayer: Kubuntu == Ubuntu with KDE.05:17
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IIIEarsmadclicker - It will be easier for us to help you here in english. there is an #ubuntu-es if you would prefer it.05:17
NetslayerSpeedy2, i know, i want kde and gnome05:17
thr1ceNetslayer, sure; apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:17
_maydayjay_citrus - /etc/init.d05:17
arbi1citrus... try /etc/init.d/service_name start/stop/restart05:17
sonoyou can install both packages Netslayer05:17
Speedy2citrus: You can get a utility called "boot up manager" (bum) or manually alter items in the /etc/rc.x folders05:17
Netslayerthr1ce, cool05:17
depravecan't you just install kde on ubuntu and then startx kde?05:17
thr1ceNetslayer, then select it from gdm under sessions as you please05:17
ksmurfmayday K 2 ways.... U can manually add the links on a menu is one option05:17
arbi1bob2 are you there ?05:18
Netslayerthr1ce, cool05:18
jcarrhow do you make a home dir for a new user?05:18
arbi1jcarr mkdir05:18
Netslayerso does ubuntu 5.04 have gnome 2.10 ?05:18
ksmurfdeprave U can select kde as your default wm if u want05:18
_maydayjay_ksmurf - was trying to avoid tthat - doing an install for a neophyte...<smile>05:18
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Netslayerand kubuntu kde 3.4.x ?05:18
depraveksmurf: ah ok.05:18
jcarrarbi1, uh huh... and how does it know it belongs to the user?05:18
IIIEarsjcarr - system administration  "users and groups"05:19
arbi1jcarr... also see the /etc/passwd file05:19
sonoyes netslayer05:19
_maydayjay_ksmurf - I think it is a know bug on the codeweavers ticket system ....05:19
ksmurfmayday me understand.   I just am converting my wife and I'm still a noob05:19
uber_newberhey im really new, but i think  i have my lynksis wirless b usb network adapter install. so i went to networking and it says my wlan0 is not active05:19
depravei just downloaded the iso , haven't installed it yet. but i've been told and read some good things about ubuntu as a desktop so i figured i would drop in here and check it out.05:19
arbi1Ears... does rc.local work in unbuntu?05:19
uber_newberso do i just click on the actiave button?05:19
sonoNetslayer: both 2.10 Gnome and Kubuntu is KDE 3.405:19
uber_newberhey im really new, but i think  i have my lynksis wirless b usb network adapter install. so i went to networking and it says my wlan0 is not active. so do ijust click on the activeate button05:19
IIIEarsarbil - (beginning to break into a newb sweat) huh?05:20
ksmurfmay thanks. I have codeweavers installed and I just use it out of gnome05:20
uber_newbercan sum help me please05:20
_maydayjay_arbi1 - no rc.local in Ubuntu....or Debian...05:20
arbi1not realy ears.... just that i am so used to redhat05:20
ksmurfuber shoot05:20
arbi1and i am still fumbling my way here05:20
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sonouber_newber... which is your wifi card?05:20
arbi1so how do i execute my own scripts at the end of each boot up procss?05:21
_maydayjay_ksmurf - I think I'm going to have to go the gnome root for this one....thanks though!05:21
IIIEars/etc/initrc  ?05:21
arbi1let me see that05:21
arbi1no initrc file05:22
sonouber_newber ,  or, is it yours a laptop computer?05:22
arbi1do i have to make one ?05:22
arbi1only inittab and init.d05:22
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IIIEarsarbil - erm i am sorry05:22
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skalpelhow can i fix this error?05:23
skalpel* Closing Link: 0.0.0.0 (Open proxy found on your host, please visit www.njabl.org/cgi-bin/lookup.cgi?query=66.142.150.44 (2005/07/26 22.54))05:23
skalpel* Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).05:23
uber_newbermy wifi card is a lynksis wirelessb usb networ adapter05:23
arbi1erm? is that a typo or some geek lingo?05:23
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jmspeexI've got a removable cdrom on my laptop. I used to be able to just "idectl 1 on" when I want to plug it in. With ubuntu, this no longer works. Any tip on how to do that?05:23
_maydayjay_arbi1 - You could still make a script for and include it in one of the rc dirs...05:23
IIIEarsskalpel - security or pen test tools installed? - listening promiscuously?05:24
vader1102bob2: holly chit, the upgrade to Hoary went flawless.....even kept my wifi settings05:24
Speedy2Ok...Eclipse anyone?05:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a channel for gimp?05:24
arbi1yeah maydayjay thats there... but what is the official debian/ubuntu way of doing it ?05:24
pepsiChurcH_of_FoamY, have you tried #gimp?05:24
depraveanyone have experience getting pengAOL running on ubuntu? =P05:24
IIIEarsChurch, #gimp on freenode some other irc servers have larger groups check out ircspy05:24
_olafanyone have any experience getting pengAOL to work AT all?05:25
gigaclonis there an alternative to cadaver on ubuntu?05:25
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vader1102and it only took about about an hour05:25
_maydayjay_arbi1 - try this  http://www.plope.com/Members/chrism/debian_rc_local_equiv05:25
deprave_olaf: do my dismay i found a site where some guy did, http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAOL.html05:25
skalpeliiiears: what kind of security tools? i used chkrootkit and had a friend scan my ports and everything appears to be okay05:25
skalpeliiiears: i think it has something to do with my identd05:25
arbi1thanks maydayjay let me look at it05:25
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IIIEarsskalpel -it was just a guess05:25
sonouber_newber ,  your adapter won't work out of the box05:25
enothanks05:25
vinboyhi guys05:26
sonouber_newber ,  but it is supposed to work with Ubuntu05:26
uber_newbersono: why05:26
vinboyhow do I enable numlock when i start ubuntu05:26
poningrupress the numlock button?05:26
depravehaha05:26
vinboyno05:26
vinboyi mean auto-numlock05:26
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poningrusorry05:26
poningruhad to do it05:26
vinboyubuntu enable it whenevern it start05:26
sonouber_newber ,  there is no Linux USB driver for some USB network adapters05:26
vinboyoh ..ok05:26
Juganhelp, im trying to configure winehq using winetools but i kep getting the message "installed.reg not found"05:27
uber_newberya there is its called at76c50305:27
uber_newberi g2g tho05:27
_maydayjay_arbi1 - here is a better proper way  http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Distribution_Specific/Debian_GNULinux/Debian__Startup_Commands.html05:27
uber_newberc ya later people05:27
sonouber_newber ,  so you have to use Window's INF file to ndiswrapper05:27
arbi1let me look again05:27
poningrudid anyone point him to !wifi?05:28
poningru!wifi05:28
ubotumethinks wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto05:28
poningruuber_newber: go look at that?05:28
vader1102BBL need to go and have a shower....it is bloody hot in hear withthe laptop sitting here it makes it worse lol05:29
_maydayjay_Anyone using Crossover on Kubuntu with working menus?05:29
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vinboyany great SIP phone ?05:29
arbi1mayday this is wonderful05:29
arbi1perfect05:29
jcarranyone have Red Hat Enterprise Edition?05:29
rob^jcarr, this is #ubuntu05:30
poningruhehe05:30
_maydayjay_arbi1 - glad I could help...  I used to use RH ... but debian has me hooked...05:30
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_maydayjay_jcarr - I run it at work...05:30
hybrid_gothrob^: its not #ubuntu-rhee?05:30
sonouber_newber ,  (I heard Linksys WUSB54G works better with latest ndiswrapper 1.1 driver) well...05:30
jcarrso? Doesn't hurt to ask.. I need the contents of /etc/redhat-release so I can get oracle installler to run05:30
jcarr:)05:30
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arbi1mayday i did not like debian.. but after seeing Ubuntu... i just love debian's child05:31
rob^hybrid_goth, theres a weard combo05:31
jcarrI'm a long time Debian user05:31
rob^Ubuntu Hat Linux05:31
madclicker_looking for 2.6.11 installer to test on ich7 intel05:32
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_maydayjay_arbi1 - Ubuntu is great ... I've been hooked since the warty preview!05:32
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jon_hallo05:33
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_maydayjay_jcarr - redhat-release is available as an RPM.... just do a google search...05:33
jcarr#redhat is the deadest channel on freenode05:33
arbi1yah i am also hooked.. just that somethings are still not clear.....but with time it will be in my tips05:33
jcarrlots of people, no one speaking05:33
Mobushi05:33
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MobusI'll speak05:33
Mobusme speaka no inglesh05:34
arbi1i was so used to chkconfig to update my run levels... and i kept looknig for somthing similar in ubuntu05:34
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arbi1unitll i found update-rc.d05:34
ctrlERhi, I just did nmap localhost and it seems i have port 5010/tcp open telelpathstart, does anyone know what service is that?05:34
misfit_toyzzzzz05:34
arbi1mayday is that not the equilaent ?05:34
_maydayjay_arbi1 - I've used wiki.ubuntu.com and http://www.ubuntuforums.org  (tips and tricks) quite a bit and they've explained a lot....05:34
Razor-XctrlER: google is wonderful for that kinda stuff05:34
arbi1sounds good to be mayday05:34
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arbi1just that i am a CLI person... and most help i saw was through GUI05:34
ctrlERRazor-X, tried that, nothing conclusive05:34
drcodehi all05:35
drcodeany one can help me with xmess?05:35
arbi1maydayjay.. how do u install the latest firefox.. is there no ubuntu packages for it ?05:35
crimsunarbi1, see the topic05:35
Razor-XctrlER: well, then, you can try and analyze your network traffic to see if it's an active connection05:35
ctrlERRazor-X, you're the best05:36
Razor-Xor you can use other sneaky ways, but that borders into networ security/hacking techniques ;)05:36
Amaranthjcarr: #fedora?05:36
ctrlERits amule05:36
Razor-Xhaha, there you are05:36
_maydayjay_arbi1 - Lot's of GUI based support because they are trying to cater to the end-user audience as well, but there is some good lower-level CLI stuff too.  Most of the Debian howto's work well as they work to stay within that model...05:36
ctrlERops, wrong, mdh is the best05:36
ctrlERlol05:36
arbi1yeah... sounds good to me05:36
ctrlERhe told me to use lsof05:36
Razor-XCLI is my preferred environment05:37
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arbi1up with Razor-X :-)05:37
arbi1CLI rules05:37
_maydayjay_arbi1 - For firefox I think you need to remove the backports in your sources.list and then remove firefox and re apt-get install it....05:37
ctrlER:)05:37
Razor-Xhell yeah ;)05:37
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skalpelwhere is my identd client in ubuntu?05:37
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skalpelis that the correct word, client?05:37
Razor-Xaggghhh, twit 15 hasn't come out yet05:37
crimsunskalpel, there are quite a few installable ones. Try oidentd.05:37
Razor-Xs/twit/TWiT/05:38
_maydayjay_arbi1 - I haven't tried myself ... was just reading about it ... i'll probably attempt shortly....05:38
arbi1_maydayjay_: why do many work arounds ?05:38
skalpelcrimsun: alright.05:38
jcarrRed Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 3 (Taroon)05:38
arbi1what is backports?05:38
Razor-Xskalpel: your IRC client should have identd built in05:38
jtgameoverwhat is this new problem with backports and firefox i keep reading about?05:38
jtgameoveri upgraded without doing anything extra, it works fine (1.0.6)05:38
arbi1backports has brought be to a grinding halt05:38
skalpelrazor-x: well it did and does but it is acting crazy. im pretty sure i have been hacked because someone changed my identd name, and i dont know how to change it back05:38
depravedoes the latest release of ubuntu run a 2.4.x kernel with tun/tap as module to use the CTunTapDriver05:39
skalpeland i have been getting errors on dalnet servers about an open proxy at 0.0.0.005:39
skalpelwhich does not seem right05:39
_maydayjay_arbi1 - backports are bug fixes from newer versions applied to the versions that are included in the distro...05:39
Razor-Xskalpel: someone hacked you on Linux?05:39
vinboyanyone use skype under ubuntu?05:39
nekohayocould someone tell me if it's possible to ln firefox's and epiphany's bookmarks together?05:39
Razor-Xwhy not just reinstall your IRC client?05:39
nekohayovinboy, I do05:39
skalpelrazor-x: i believe so, i started having these errors after joining #260 on efnet05:39
nekohayobut it does not work properly for me x_x05:39
_maydayjay_vinboy - I do....05:39
jtgameoverwait, so are we supposed to remove backports from sources.list? or change it to http://tinyurl.com/8f93v05:39
Razor-Xdon't always tag internet errors to ``I was hacked'' a lot of times programs just stop working05:39
vinboywhere did u guys download skype from?05:39
skalpelok05:39
skalpelwell05:39
nekohayothe skype website05:40
skalpelmy connection got reset instantly upon joining that channel05:40
nekohayothey have a .deb05:40
vinboyoh ic05:40
Razor-Xthat's more of a Windows mentality, actually ;)05:40
vinboyi downloaded 1 from there... but it can't install05:40
skalpeland has been acting buggy ever since on certain efnet servers and mostly on dalnet05:40
vinboynvm05:40
skalpelthough i am okay here on freenode05:40
vinboyi redownload it05:40
_maydayjay_jtgameover - you may be right ... I just skimmed a post late last night....I'll reread the post in a min ... I have to upgrade...05:40
Razor-Xbecause an unprotected box connected to the internet gets spyware within minutes05:40
Razor-XSasser within 5 minutes05:40
jtgameover_maydayjay_, i was asking a question, not making a statement....05:40
Razor-Xjust navigating in IE to the firefox homepage without google, you get adware05:41
vinboyRazor-X, yup... same as unprotected sex get HIV infection05:41
vader1102And worse in 10 miutes lol05:41
Razor-Xvinboy: uh yeah...., PG rated content right there ;)05:41
nekohayois it possible to ln firefox's and epiphany's bookmarks together without something breaking?05:41
jtgameoverare we supposed to change the backports url in our sources.list to be http://tinyurl.com/8f93v?05:41
jcarrawesome... oracle 10g's gui popped up and is installing05:41
Razor-Xnekohayo: are they in the same format?05:41
vinboy:D05:41
rob^!backports05:41
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted05:41
nekohayowell it seems so05:41
vinboyi love ubuntu05:41
Razor-Xnekohayo: then try it05:41
vinboyeasy to setup and use05:41
nekohayobecause both are gecko based and export to html05:41
Razor-Xalthough, you can just cp it05:41
nekohayoyeah05:41
Razor-Xnekohayo: but their internal formats can be different05:41
vinboyexcept... i tried to setup home gateway on this machine... but no luck05:41
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nekohayobut I want to be able to keep them up to date with each other05:42
sproingieare there any backports for amd64 yet?05:42
Razor-Xthen write a little shell script05:42
nekohayowell I looked at the code and it was somewhat different05:42
cyphasewindows is a window of opportunity to crackers and thieves05:42
sproingielast time i looked at backports everything was 32 bit05:42
nekohayofirefox has LOTS of info tags05:42
skalpelrazor-x: how do you explain my ident name being changed to 'fubar' suddenly? i did not set it as that05:42
jcarrcyphase, so is linux05:42
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Razor-Xlike, write a script that exports to HTML and then it's imported into Epiphany, and vice versa05:42
evohow does ubuntu deal with modules loadind modules... should i use modconf?05:42
sproingieskalpel: that is the default for one of the identd's05:42
Razor-Xand then add the script to cron05:42
Razor-Xerrr, I have to go, i'll be back in a bit05:42
skalpelsproingie: oh, great to know05:42
nekohayodon'T know writing shell scripts :P05:43
skalpelsproingie: do you kow how i can change it?05:43
sproingieskalpel: read the fine manual05:43
Razor-Xnekohayo: ah well, for your problem, it may be hard to find a GUI solution05:43
Razor-Xanyways, bye05:43
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skalpelsproingie: for xchat?05:43
troyjust got a new (shiny) SATA disk - what will it be listed as in /dev ?05:43
sproingieskalpel: for whichever identd you installed.  there's like three of 'em at least, i don't know which you use05:44
Madpilottroy: sda05:44
jcarrI've lost my anti-microsoft attitude... they're a big company that does many things right, and many things wrong (like all big companies)05:44
troyMadpilot: merci :)05:44
sproingieskalpel: ls -ald /usr/share/doc/*ident*05:44
jcarrof course, microsoft won me back with .NET :)05:44
_maydayjay_arbi1, jtgameover - here is the post for Firefox  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51931&highlight=firefox05:44
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jcarrC# is the best thing they ever made imho05:44
=== sproingie has never been so much anti-microsoft as anti-windows when forced to use it
sproingiejust deleting large numbers of files brings my windows desktop to its knees.  that just ain't right05:45
arbi2man my net got down and i cannot connect back as arbi105:45
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AmaranthWindows 2000 and Windows XP are actually pretty good05:45
skalpelsproingie: i think i will install oidentd because i like the way it sounds05:45
cyphase;)05:45
Amaranthmost of the anti-windows folks haven't used windows since 9805:45
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sproingiei use windows now05:45
_maydayjay_arbi2 - Just sent a link about Firefox  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51931&highlight=firefox05:45
cyphaseAmaranth, I've used every version of windows05:45
sproingienot RIGHT now, but for my desktop at work05:45
skalpelsproingie: do you know what ubuntu uses by default?05:45
cyphaseincluding the reeally old ones05:46
Amaranthi'm on win2k right now05:46
cyphase3.1 and such05:46
sproingiealmost all my actual work at work is done on linux boxen tho05:46
cyphasebut not for too long05:46
sproingieskalpel: it doesn't come with one, far as i know05:46
cyphasejust to try it out, and when i'm testing websites05:46
arbi2thanks _maydayjay_ letme read it05:46
=== sproingie actually uses mostly perl and python at work. most of it runs on windows too
sproingiebut they all do heavy duty filesystem work, and they would crawl on windows05:47
skalpelsproingie: well then how come xchat has been working fine for me so far?05:47
gpdlooks like my dvdrw is crashing HAL... can I disable it with kernel parameters? I tried hdd=noprobe05:47
skalpelit must have been using some kind of identy05:47
jcarrAmaranth, heh.. when I was anti-windows, I had left windows9805:47
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sproingieskalpel: most irc networks will let you in if you don't have an identd.  why they even query for one at all is a continuing mystery05:48
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vinboyI GOT SKYPE RUNNING NOW!!!!! YEAH05:48
jcarrI tried windows ME, then decided it was the worst OS I ever laid eyes on, switched completely to linux, and never looked back05:48
sproingieskalpel: you will notice that the annoying delay you get when connecting to freenode will disappear when you install an identd05:48
skalpelsproingie: i did not know that. well in any case i have been k-lined on dalnet for trying to connect without one05:48
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mebaran151what is the best python book05:48
mebaran151as a reference05:48
skalpelsproingie: well i installed nullidentd, is that all i have to do?05:48
mebaran151I dont need it to be really really basic05:48
sproingieskalpel: dalnet is a bunch of self-important losers05:48
mebaran151just a good O'Reilly05:49
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cyphasemebaran151, probably the official python guide05:49
sproingieskalpel: make sure theres a line for it in your inetd.conf05:49
skalpeli know people there05:49
mebaran151hmmm05:49
mebaran151does it come in book form05:49
skalpelsproingie: what should the line read as, can you tell me?05:49
mebaran151I was thinking more the O'Reilly publication of some sort05:49
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mebaran151I like to have documentation I can hold in my hand ....05:49
sproingieskalpel: oh the people who chat there are normal people.  the ops are refugees from the BBS world who still power-trip at being sysops05:49
mebaran151and not in my mouse05:49
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mebaran151sproingie, what is dalnet?05:50
_maydayjay_arbi2 - I found these pages very helpful with the switch from RH - http://www.debian.org/doc/05:50
skalpelsproingie: hey, i am a refugee from the bbs world05:50
jcarranyway, I set up several linux boxen today, and we're going to use them as a data wharehouse running Oracle05:50
skalpelcareful05:50
skalpel=)05:50
sproingieskalpel: and the rest are too tired of people attacking the network that they either dont care or go the opposite and run on a hair trigger05:50
skalpelit actually seems worse on efnet, i dunno05:50
jcarrfor inventory tracking for our narcotics trafficing business05:50
jcarrwe're going to go big05:50
sproingieskalpel: efnet is the worst, but it gets some exemptions for cultural heritage (e.g. #perl)05:51
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jcarrdealers can use a client program that uses SOAP over an x.509 encrypted line to make orders :)05:51
Madpilotjcarr: does this mean you're running doping-source software?05:51
skalpelsproingie: are there any channels you would like to recommend here on this network, freenode, right?05:51
jcarrsomething like that05:51
sproingieskalpel: techie talk rules the day on freenode, so pick a language/os/app you like and hang out there05:51
skalpelsproingie: okay.05:52
vinboywhat do u guys use for edonkey network?05:52
jcarrheh... I wonder... do organized narcotics outfits like that really harness technology? Do they hire sysadmins? Programmers?05:52
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cyphasevinboy, aMule05:52
vinboycyphase, is it good? did u try overnet?05:52
cyphaseis overnet a client, or a network?05:52
cyphaselol05:52
vinboyclient05:52
cyphaseoh05:52
vinboynvm05:52
cyphasewell, either, way, i haven't05:53
arbi2let me take a look _maydayjay_05:53
vinboyi install amule now :D05:53
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jcarrI don't use eDonkey05:53
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sproingiejcarr: indeed they do.  and they have some SERIOUSLY tough NDA penalties05:53
cyphasethe program is ok, but the network is soso05:53
vinboyi hope it is good05:53
cyphasegnutella is good though05:53
jcarrNDA?05:53
scspongerhey could someone help me setup up my dual head setup05:53
sproingiejcarr: like a bullet to your head and every one in your family05:53
humbolthow can I use a gnome applet under kde?05:53
jcarroh, lol05:53
scspongeri;m having some trouble05:53
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arbi2_maydayjay_, did you update ur firefox ?05:53
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jcarrI wonder, do they hold interviews? How does one go about getting a programming job for an organized crime outfit?05:54
ESKILOtotem won't give me sound.05:54
ESKILOhow can i change it to use esd?05:54
skalpelhow can i make my bittorrent client automatically handle torrent files from my web browser?>05:54
_maydayjay_arbi2 - not yet ... gotta do a quick household chore ... then I'll get to it ... give me 10 mins...05:54
gigaclonI got a person to switch to Ubuntu from Debian05:54
crimsunESKILO, by default totem uses whatever gstreamer-properties> default sink is configured to use05:54
jcarrgigaclon, so you talked the guy into giving up fancy restaurant food for McDonalds?05:55
adelphiahow do i mask my IP on freenode?05:55
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ESKILOcrimsun where do i define that?05:56
ESKILOoh..multimedia system selector05:56
yongMy TOSHIBA TE2000 laptop can't restart, only can be shutdown. If restart it, it change to hiberate.05:57
skalpelcan someone tell me why i am haveing serious memory problems with java when playing music with rhythmbox?05:57
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ESKILOcrimsun well gstreamer is set correctly, and a test proves it.05:57
ESKILOcrimsun but totem won't give me sound05:57
Quakedoes any1 know if ubuntu supports the netcomm modem/routers?05:57
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adelphiahow do i mask my IP on freenode? is it even possible?05:58
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rob^yes it is05:58
crimsunESKILO, what are you trying to play?05:58
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skalpelis it common to have lots of choppyness and slow down when switching between workspaces?06:00
skalpeland even when minimising or resizing windows?06:00
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Computer__Guruonly if your video card sucks, you have a pissy video driver, or the wrong one set, or you have a semi-okay video card and you're stretching small pictures to like 1024x768 on your desktop06:01
dbwis it unhealthy for my install to put debian sites in my sources.list ?06:01
skalpelit seems eto center mainly around my web browser06:01
ESKILOcrimsun any file, dvd directly, or a vorbis file.06:01
ESKILOcrimsun helix player works for me in kde, but not in gnome06:01
skalpelcomputer_guru: well i am pushing my desktop to 1280x1024, because my card supports it, but i am not stretching out any small files, no06:01
Computer__Gurudbw:  pretty much06:01
ESKILOand ogle doesn't work at all, so if i want dvd playing it seems getting sound out of totem would be good06:02
skalpelcomputer_guru: i have intel extreme graphics2 3d06:02
Computer__Guruskalpel:  what kind of card?06:02
dbwComputer__Guru: what will happen?06:02
Computer__Guruokay,w hats the chipset?06:02
sonoanyone with ubuntu64?06:02
crimsunESKILO, and this is with totem, not totem-xine?06:02
_maydayjay_arbi2 - Worked like a charm --- here's the process06:02
skalpelcomputer_guru: i did the same in windows and did not seem to have a problem, only with ubuntu, again centering around web browsers and the virtual desktop06:02
Computer__Gurudbw:  i dont know, but the systems are not identical, and there are things that will most likely break or not install right, or cause a lot of library dependency problems06:03
skalpeldo virtual desktops use alot of video memory?06:03
dbwComputer__Guru: i see, thanks06:03
_maydayjay_arbi2 - Firefox - sudo dpkg --force-depends -r firefox firefox-gnome-support06:03
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Computer__Guruskalpel:  no, they dont. Again, what is the chipset of your video card AND what driver are you using?06:03
_maydayjay_arbi2 - Firefox - sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade06:03
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dbwComputer__Guru: one more question... how do i get rid of the no PGP key error from the backports source?06:04
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Computer__Gurudbw:  you running the official backports?06:04
skalpelcomputer_guru: it is intel 1810 but im not sure on the driver06:05
dbwComputer__Guru: "official backports"?  that's an oxymoron ;)06:05
dbwComputer__Guru: but yes, i  know what you mean , and i am06:05
_maydayjay_arbi2 - also check 'about:config' general.useragent.vendorsub and make sure it says 1.0.6 if you changed it for 1.0.4.06:05
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_maydayjay_arbi2 - brb06:06
Computer__Guruskalpel:  okay, open a root terminal, then type "pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and in section "Device" what do you have for driver? (dont close that window either, we might be working in it)06:06
Computer__Gurudbw:  i dont know then06:06
dbwComputer__Guru: :(06:06
Computer__Gurudbw:  i still use the unofficial, i havent changed mine yet06:06
depravewhat are the possibilities that ubuntu will recognise my Matrox Graphics Millennium 6200 AGP video card?06:06
humboltis there a way to get rid of the dhcp delay on startup when there is no cable connected?06:07
yongMy TOSHIBA TE2000 laptop can't restart, only can be shutdown. If restart it, it change to hiberate.06:07
Computer__Gurudeprave:  pretty good.. now ask what the chances are that it will fully accelerate it and make you go goo-goo, heh06:07
Computer__Guruyong:  turn off hibernation int he bios :D06:07
depraveshould i try to find a different module for it?06:07
skalpelcomputer_guru: i81006:07
skalpelthe driver seems to be correct06:08
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skalpelsometimes it seems like maybe i am pushing too many colors around06:08
skalpelbut i have been told it does not make that much of a difference06:08
dip[MON] how do I extend the console to all 12 terminals ?06:08
Computer__Gurudeprave: just check to see if there is one, and if there is, at boot time, instead of just hitting enter for the install, type "linux xmodule=whatever" at the Boot: prompt06:08
depraveright on, thanks06:08
Computer__Guruskalpel:  change it to vesa and restart x.. lemme know how that goes.. the i810 driver is shite06:08
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yong turn off hibernation bios?06:09
skalpelcomputer_guru: alright06:09
arbi2_maydayjay_, i am really confused now06:09
Computer__Gurujust a suggestion06:09
yongBUT I want to use it06:09
Computer__Guruyah there is that06:09
depraveis ubuntu still having problems with APC etc?06:09
Computer__Gurui dunno... check your power saving features06:09
bob2yong: the kernel will hibernate without caring about your bios06:10
Computer__Gurui dont know06:10
bob2deprave: APC UPS?06:10
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depraveno i used the wrong acronym, i mean the power saving schemes on laptops06:10
yongI think it is the problem of ACPI.06:10
depraveyeah acpi06:10
depravesorry06:10
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bob2ah06:10
depravei read a review at osnews.com and one of the review'ers had problems on his laptop with ACPI06:11
bob2wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryPMResults06:11
yongIs this occured is other laptop?06:11
bob2most new machines work fine06:11
Computer__Guruyong: go to http://www.google.com/linux and type in "toshiba te2000 acpi" without the quotes and see what you get06:11
depraveyong: it was a IBM thinkpad i think, 800mhz or so06:11
arbi2brb _maydayjay_06:11
yongI am gonna see it.06:12
Computer__Gurudifferent bios manufacturers have different ideas as to how to implement the acpi 'standard'06:12
Computer__Gurukinda like microsoft did with java06:12
bob2most don't care, and if windows mostly works, they ship it06:13
Computer__Guruyup06:13
Computer__Guruscrew how bad they murdered the rfc06:13
Computer__Guruthey just dont care, as long as it runs windows06:13
depraveis IPv6 buggy with ubuntu?06:13
bob2you need to be far more specific06:14
luckyabadeprave: yes06:14
depraveluckyaba thanks06:14
bob2aiui, linux's ipv6 stack isn't quite rfc-compliant yet06:14
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bob2if you mean "can it sometimes slow down resolution of ipv4 names", then, yes06:14
luckyabadeprave: at least i have seen quite a few people who have had problems with it06:14
Computer__Guruhas the world finally agreed on an IPv6 standard? last i heard there were two distinctly different systems ont he board06:14
depraveluckyaba yeah just slow resolution for names06:15
bob2ipv6 was standardised long ago06:15
bob2there's more than one standard for tunneling it over ipv4, tho06:15
Computer__Guruheh, shows how int he networking game ive been lately :D06:15
Computer__Gurunah, i meant the format of the ip06:15
bob2long ago there were two plans, I think06:16
bob2well before my time, tho06:16
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Computer__Guruthe options i remember were 255.255.255.255.255.255.255.255 and 65535.65535.65535.6553506:16
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Computer__Guruboth offering equal amounts of ips06:16
bob2ipv6 sorta uses the second type06:16
bob2for display, anyway06:17
arbi3man i keep getting kicked out06:17
bob2fe80::20a:e4ff:fe2a:c66306:17
Computer__Guruoh boy hex06:17
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NamShubI need help with ubuntu... I always lose my network connection06:19
NamShubdmesg reveals this:06:19
NamShubJul 27 00:12:06 localhost kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out06:19
bob2sounds like your card is broken, or the driver is buggy06:20
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bob2what does google say about that and your driver?06:20
Speedy2NamShub: What's the NIC?06:20
NamShubthen I can not bring the interface up again (ifdown works, ifup eth1 will fail when running dhclient3)06:20
Speedy2A 3C575CT ?06:20
NamShubbob2: Speedy2: It happens on the 3 (!!) NICs I tried06:20
Speedy2NamShub: What model of NICs?06:20
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ESKILOcrimsun yeah with totem06:21
bob2a friend of mine had that problem the other night06:21
ESKILOcrimsun i installed totem-xine but i can't find tit06:21
ESKILOit06:21
bob2I think his pci bus is toast06:21
NamShuba D-Link 530TX06:21
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NamShubthe onboard Nvidia (forcedeth) -- K8NE06:21
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NamShuband a Realtek (5830?)06:21
bob2forcedeth I'd not be surprised at06:21
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bob2but tulip's always been good to me06:22
NamShubproblem is, they all work with gentoo and regular debian06:22
bob2or is it via-rhine, I forget06:22
IIIEarsHi06:22
bob2NamShub: perhaps try disabling acpi or the apic?06:22
NamShubbob2: how?06:22
bob2NamShub: add "noapic" as a kernel boot option06:23
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bob2ubotu: temp kernel option is hit esc during boot to get to the grub boot option, then hit "e" on the kernel you want to boot.  scroll down to the line that ends in "ro" and hit "e" again.  add your option at the end of the edit line, then hit enter, and "b" to boot06:24
ubotuokay, bob206:24
ESKILOanyone know why helix player works fine for me in kde, but not in gnome?06:24
NamShubbob2: ok thanks, Ill try that (bbiab)06:24
bob2did you configure it to use arts or esd?06:24
ESKILOor why i can play dvds in gnome but not in kde?06:24
gigaclonis there an alternative to cadaver on ubuntu?06:24
ESKILObob2 it has a setting for that?06:24
bob2NamShub: if that doesn't work, please tell me so I can fix the factoid06:24
bob2gigaclon: emacs has a webdav client, too06:24
bob2what's wrong with cadaver?06:25
gigaclonits not a gui06:25
ESKILObob2 okay that's probably the problem.  my bigger problem is that totem doesn't give me sound, just video.  other gstreamer apps work fine06:25
bob2ESKILO: I dunno, but I'd assume that's your problem, based on your highly incomplete questoin06:25
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bob2ESKILO: do you have totem-xine installed?06:25
skalpelcomputer_guru: i am now using vesa as my driver, it seems to be okay06:25
ESKILObob2 yeah06:26
bob2then I'd guess it's not using gstreamer for output06:27
ESKILObob2 i don't see a way to set the audio system in helix btw06:27
gigaclonbob2, is there a gui frontend?06:27
ESKILOi thought it was programmed to..06:27
mmoscosadoes anyone knows why cant i send or recive files with amsn?!?! does anyone know how to fix it?!06:27
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bob2gigaclon: to cadaver? doubt it.06:27
Dr_Willispossibially a firewall/port blocked issue mmoscosa06:27
bob2gigaclon: konqueror can use webdav, tho06:28
bob2so can nautilus, iirc06:28
dabaRmmoscosa: router? firewall?06:28
gigaclonhmmm06:28
mmoscosaDr_Willis how can i know if this is the problem?! ho should i fix it?!06:28
skalpelcan someone tell me what this usually means?  You are banned from this server- Temporary K-line 1440 min. - DNSBL listed. Check ircnet.com/cgi-bin/bl.cgi?ip=66.142.150.44 for removal. (2005/7/27 00.27)06:28
skalpel* Closing Link: adsl-66-142-150-44.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net (Connection closed)06:28
skalpelis it trouble?06:28
rob^hah06:28
mmoscosadabaR router?06:28
Dr_Willismmoscosa,  id say check the programs homepage.06:28
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bob2skalpel: you've been klined because your ip was used by morons06:29
NamShublets see it this will die :P06:29
bob2for spamming, apparently06:29
skalpelbob2: used for what exactly?06:29
skalpelok06:29
HrdwrBoBskalpel: check that URL for removal06:29
bob2hopefully you have a dynamic ip and only got it recently06:29
skalpelnothing dangerous though?06:29
HrdwrBoBskalpel: when you see an error message06:29
HrdwrBoBread it.06:29
mmoscosaDr_Willis ok, thx, i will do so... :S hahaha06:29
NamShublooking back at my log there seems to also have problem with IPv6, any way to disable that?06:29
skalpelalright06:29
bob2skalpel: depends why you're on it06:29
gigaclonis there a HowTo?06:29
bob2skalpel: if you happened to get an ip from someone who did bad things, it's not06:29
dabaRubotu router is a device used to connect multiple copmputers online at the same time, or wirelessly. It would be a box in between your modem and computer if you go by the wires.06:29
ubotuokay, dabaR06:29
bob2skalpel: if you got it because you did bad things, yes, it's bad06:29
bob2gigaclon: for what?06:29
ESKILOanyone know how to set the sound system in helix?06:30
dabaRmmoscosa: there it is, do you have one?06:30
gigaclonusing Natulis for webdrive06:30
mmoscosadabaR  i guess... dsl connection...06:30
dabaRESKILO: is there a menu option for preferences, or sound preferences?06:30
bob2"webdav", not drive06:30
dabaRmmoscosa: what country?06:30
dabaRmmoscosa: or, tell me the brand and model of the box you have.06:31
depraveanyone ever try to get aol to dial on ubuntu06:31
depraveusing pengAOL06:31
HrdwrBoBno06:31
ESKILOdabaR not really06:31
HrdwrBoBbecause that would mean you're using AOL06:31
dabaRdeprave: I am sure someone did at some time, since they created it.06:31
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depraveyeah well free internet is better than no internet06:31
mmoscosadabaR Mexico.... Speedstream Modem... Prodigy Infinitum service06:31
dabaRESKILO: no preferences? no sound settings, nothing of the sort?06:31
bob2gigaclon: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=34175806:31
dabaRmmoscosa: and nothing after that speedstream?06:31
dabaRmmoscosa: meaning, the cable from the speedstream goes into your computer, is that correct?06:33
arbi3test06:33
arbi3test06:33
mmoscosadabaR wait a sec..06:33
mmoscosadabaR yes06:33
arbi3i have seen everywhere.. what is the meaning of disabling baclports06:33
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WebWizsomebody had mkfontdir on their site for breezy does anybody ahve that link06:34
dabaRmmoscosa: ok, then you dont have a router, do you have a firewall?06:34
ricosuave17how do i get engage for ubunutu06:34
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mmoscosadabaR not that i know... hehehe :$ (quite a newbie i am)06:34
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dabaRarbi3: disabling backportsd means to comment out the line in your /etc/apt/sources.list file, that is used for accessing backports. if you want, /join #flood, then in #flood, type in /exec -o cat /etc/apt/sources.list and I will tell you if you have backports enabled, and how to comment them out.06:35
dabaRmmoscosa: are you using ubuntu? if so, type in ifconfig in a terminal, find out your IP address, and ping it.06:36
_maydayjay_arbi3 - I wouldn't worry about disabling backports....I did the firefox upgrade without doing so....I think there was an interim fix involving this...06:36
dabaRhaha, not that that will tell you, or anything, but I am not sure how to find out.06:36
aukricosuave17: you tromp through the FIRES OF HELL that are the "E17" CVS06:36
arbi3i dont see any backports in my sources.list file06:36
arbi3i downloaded ubuntu only yesterday06:36
ricosuave17but all i want is the dock06:36
ricosuave17not e1706:36
mmoscosaok, wait a sec dabaR06:37
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aukyeah, you need to get a portion of the libraries, though06:37
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_maydayjay_arbi3 - you might want to check out the user documentation in the wiki   wiki.ubuntu.com06:37
ricosuave17ok can u tell me how to do it06:37
aukno.06:37
Dropkneecan anyone pls help here, I try to install ubuntu in my external USB HDD, when the instalation finish and want a restat, this HDD never boot, I check all, I enable first boot in USB-HDD but this never boot, any help here?06:37
nicedreamsWhat's wrong with Ubuntu's repositories?  I can't find anything anymore.  Like where did the w32codecs go and xnview and synergyc ???06:37
arbi3i just doing that06:37
aukricsuave17, i tried a while back, and i failed miserably06:37
WebWizHI everybody - i have my windows partition mounted but i have to be root to read from it,  what am i doing wrong?06:38
dabaRarbi3: you dont have backports then.06:38
auk*ricosuave1706:38
ricosuave17well what to do06:38
dabaRthe backports are not there by default.06:38
arbi3aah dabaR sounds good to me06:38
nicedreamsdabaR, I just added the ubuntu backports and still not there06:38
dabaRAlso, you not seeing them could be cause you dont know how they look.06:38
dabaRnicedreams: still not what there?06:38
nicedreamsthe backports from ubuntu forums right?06:38
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_maydayjay_nicedreams - did you do an apt-get update?06:39
nicedreamsyeap06:39
nicedreamsis this the right one?06:39
nicedreamsdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted06:39
dabaRnicedreams: ah, sorry, never got there.06:39
dabaRnicedreams: backpotrs dont look like that any more06:39
nicedreamsoh...they need to fix the forums then06:39
aukricosuave17, go to enlightenment.org, click on the enage page, and there will be a link somewhere...but i recommend tryign VERY, VERY hard to find a .deb or some apt repository06:39
arbi3_maydayjay_, i disabled my CD repository and now should i add this new backports at the top ?06:39
nicedreamshttp://www.ubuntuforums.org06:39
nicedreamsdo you know where I can get the new backports then?06:40
dabaRnicedreams: /msg ubotu backports06:40
ricosuave17auk:  i dont find any links at all on engage page06:40
vinboywhere are the kernel C headers located?06:40
cs378hey ppl, i want to copy a file to hd3/usr/lib how do i do that?06:40
aukhmm, there was when i looked06:40
cs378everytime i do it, it says access denied06:40
aukWebWiz: what does the corresponding line in your /etc/fstab look like?06:41
dabaRvinboy: what?06:41
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dabaRcs378: hd3/usr/lib does not sound like an absolute path.06:41
aukcs378: try doing whatever you'r edoing with sudo :)06:41
cs378hmm06:41
aukooh..."hd3" ??06:41
Dropkneecan anyone pls help here, I try to install ubuntu in my external USB HDD, when the instalation finish and want a restat, this HDD never boot, I check all, I enable first boot in USB-HDD but this never boot, any help here?06:41
cs378is there anyway to do it in KDE GUi seems easier06:41
cs378hda306:42
cs378sry06:42
aukoh06:42
NamShubthanks bob2, disabling apic seems to have fixed everything!06:42
dabaRhda3 is under /dev06:42
NamShub(after 6 month of trying, I can finally swith to kubuntu heh)06:42
arbi3is apt-get update same as cilcking the refresh button in synaptic ?06:42
dabaRyou sure that is what you are doing, not /user/lib?06:42
WebWizoops sorry guys06:42
cs378but in sudo i cant go into /dev/hda3/lib06:42
regeyakubuntu is rather nice.06:42
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WebWiz/dev/hda1    /win       natime,rw,user  0  006:43
regeyaNamShub, dare I ask what the problem was switching to kubuntu?  what were you switching *from*?06:43
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_maydayjay_arbi3 - yep and add --  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted   to your /etc/apt/sources.list06:43
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luckyabacitrus_ weirdo06:43
aukcs378, is hda3 part of the linux filesystem?06:43
arbi3_maydayjay_, done.. so now should i upate it ?06:43
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WebWizauk: noatime i mean06:44
aukhmm, that didn't come out right...06:44
cs378auk, yes i think, sry i am a total newb06:44
_maydayjay_arbi3 - yep...06:44
nicedreamsdabaR, ubotu gave me the same exact backports I just listed06:44
nicedreamsdabaR, what now?06:44
nicedreamsdabaR, hold up...i think one thing has changed06:44
nicedreamsdabaR, nope...it's the same as in ubuntuforums and that's what I have.  any other suggestions?06:44
cs378auk, im tryin to install firefox flash plugin, so i need to copy two flash files to the firefox plugin folder06:44
nicedreamshttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5216806:44
_maydayjay_cs738 - or create a sym link....06:45
dabaRnicedreams: nope, ubotu has the right answer06:45
dabaR!backports06:45
ubotubackports is, like, .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted06:45
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dabaRoh, wow, thats new06:45
ESKILOi can't figure out where helix player stores its config06:45
cs378maydayjay, sym link?06:45
nicedreamsthose new backports seems to not have anything06:46
NamShubregeya: gentoo06:46
arbi3why the name backports ? has it got to do something with the gentoo portage or BSD ports?06:46
NamShubregeya: nothing against it, just wanted a binary distro06:46
bob2no06:46
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nekohayocould any breezy user tell me if pitivi has been packaged into the repositories?06:46
bob2the word "backport" existed long before gentoo did06:46
WebWizi want anybody to be able to mount /win  and anybody be able to read write /win06:46
dabaRESKILO: tools>prefs06:46
bob2nekohayo: packages.ubuntu.com06:46
gigaclonits because the new versions are ported back to older versions06:47
_maydayjay_cs378 - I don't think the flashplayer plugin needs it ... only the JRE plugin....06:47
bob2WebWiz: www.ubuntuguide.org06:47
pepperpotHas anyone noticed that the devil's dictionary in ubuntu is broken?06:47
nekohayohtanks bob206:47
bob2pepperpot: file a bug!06:47
_maydayjay_You should just have to restart firefox06:47
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arbi3bob2 is apt-get update same as cilcking the refresh button in synaptic ?06:47
cs378ohhh06:47
gpdsysvconfig doesn't seem to work - do I need to set it to use runlevel 2 or something?06:47
pepperpotbob2, i don't know how06:47
dabaRESKILO: no, its not there.06:47
nicedreamsarbi3, yes06:47
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bob2arbi3: I think so06:47
aukWebWiz: it's not safe to write to ntfs06:47
bob2pepperpot: launchpad.ubuntu.com06:47
_maydayjay_arbi3 - same thing....06:47
nicedreamsso sup with the new backports not having anything?06:48
WebWizauk: well either way, even if its just read... i want to be able to pull it up in nautilus without having to be root06:48
pepperpotbob2, thanks i'll check it out06:48
WebWizi miss my mp3s :)06:48
levanderIf I have a system crash, and need to reload the operating system on my machine.  Can I restore my system directly (and only) from a LVM snapshot?06:48
nicedreamsno synergy, no xnview, no w32codecs06:48
HrdwrBoBnicedreams: that's hoary-extras06:48
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pepperpotbob2, why is it .com?06:48
HrdwrBoBnot backports06:48
bob2no repository should have w32codecs06:48
nicedreamsHrdwrBoB, oh?  where can I find that then06:48
bob2since no one on earth can distribute it06:49
dabaRbob2: well, then?06:49
dabaRI can distribute it, cant I?06:49
bob2pepperpot: ubuntu.org was owned before ubuntu existed06:49
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bob2dabaR: no06:49
regeyano.06:49
nicedreamsbob2, what's wrong with w32codecs?06:49
dabaRwhat do we do for wmvs?06:49
dabaRI have it installed I dont care...06:49
regeyawmv...I think some can be handled by ffmpeg...I think06:49
dabaRI mean...06:49
bob2nicedreams: do you have permissions from MS to distribute their DLLs?  and Real? and Intel? and ...?06:49
lamontpepperpot: although I expect you could use launchpad.ubuntulinux.org if you like typing longer names...06:49
dabaRwhat do people do now, jkust simply ignore wmvs? anyhow, its only pr0n...06:50
auk/dev/hda1/mnt/xpntfsro,auto,uid=1000,gid=10000006:50
nicedreamsbob2, just to view files?  it sucks having to have windows just to play certian avi files06:50
bob2dabaR: you probably need it for some formats, but distributing it almost certainly violates their copyright06:50
bob2nicedreams: as above06:50
pepperpotlamont, heh thx06:50
_maydayjay_nicedreams - try ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat...in/w/w32codecs/06:50
bob2it's not like you can't download it easily, anyway06:50
nicedreams_maydayjay_, thx06:50
bob2but it will never be on ubuntu.com or any other reputable repository06:50
regeyaMS Windows Media Video 7 (ffmpeg)06:50
aukwebwiz, replace that but substitute the appropriate dirs, also look here...06:50
bob2unless somsone gets permission from all the copyright holders06:50
auk!mountntfs06:50
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, auk06:50
auk!mountwindows06:51
ubotuit has been said that mountwindows is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions06:51
dabaRaha06:51
gpdhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SysvconfigHowTo <-- implies sysvconfig should work out of the box - but it doesn't seem to :(06:51
naliothbob2: did you get my PM?06:51
gigaclonis there a way to save a connection to a server in Nautilus?06:52
nicedreamswhere can i find hoary-extras?06:52
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nicedreamsi need to backup my sources.lst before I format again.  I had all of these before, but now I lost it06:52
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ZincXanyone ?06:53
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dabaRnicedreams: it seems it is gone, hoary-extras does.06:53
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cs378how do i rm a folder that has files in it?06:54
dabaRZincX: nope.06:54
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ZincX:P06:54
auk!sources.list06:54
ubotuauk: I don't know, could you explain it?06:54
auk!sources06:54
ubotuI heard sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:54
ZincXcan you tell me how i can install a .deb package ?06:54
bob2cs378: rm the files first06:54
bob2cs378: or, if youre very very sure, rm -r foo06:54
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cs378auk, btw got the flash to work with firefox, thx06:54
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bob2cs378: bear in mind it will be gone forever06:54
cs378bob2, ok thx06:54
naliothZincX: "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"06:54
dabaR!msg the bot06:54
ubotumsg the bot is probably please use /msg ubotu to play with the bot, the channel does not benefit much from your fun. Sorry.06:54
ZincXsudo aen ?06:55
ESKILOwhat's another good app for playing dvds since totem won't give me sound, and ogle crashes my drive?06:55
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ZincXoiks. thanx06:55
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patrickjello......im baack06:55
dabaRhey patrickj06:55
_maydayjay_anyone tried out smartpm with ubuntu?06:55
ricosuave17how can i fix my resolution even tho gnome say the max is 1024 i know my card can give more06:55
patrickjdabaR: ello to you06:55
WebWiz/msg ubotu hello06:55
r0tuhaving issues finding info on the Ubuntu server install...  Anyone know what firewall is running?  If any... nmap is telling me I am as closed as Bush's mind06:55
patrickjI was wondering, how Can I obtain the updated version of Firefox(1.06)06:56
dabaRricosuave17: tried /msg ubotu resolution?06:56
cs378nalioth: sudo dpkg -i file.deb - is to install deb files right?06:56
r0tuwww.mozzila.org06:56
bob2r0tu: ubuntu sets up no iptables rules by default06:56
bob2r0tu: which is fine, since it also runs no network services by default06:56
patrickjr0tu: yes but I need to install into system base instead  of manual installing06:56
aukdabaR: i am not playing, the info is for someoen else06:56
auk*someone06:56
ESKILOricosuave17 you can set your resolution in your xorg.conf06:57
naliothcs378: yes to install06:57
La_PaRCaum... how can I remove part of a file06:57
tritiumhow is your hardware, nalioth?06:57
r0tuok... so basically I have to learn how to setup the route table and start the services?06:57
bob2La_PaRCa: what are you trying to do?06:57
bob2r0tu: no06:57
ESKILOLa_PaRCa a _part_ of a file?06:57
_maydayjay_patrickj -- http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51931&page=3&pp=10&highlight=firefox06:57
bob2r0tu: the routing table is fine, and if you want services, just install them06:57
La_PaRCabob2, I need to remove a part of an avi file06:57
bob2they'll run by default06:57
La_PaRCathats in the middle06:57
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arbi2_maydayjay_, i updated my firfox06:58
ricosuave17im not sure i wanna mess with my resoltuion anymore06:58
r0tubob2, sounds simple enough, thanks man06:58
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arbi2i just added that baclport and it worked beautifully06:59
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arbi2but i dont quite understand , what is backport ? we have so many repositories ?? what is the speciality of backport ?06:59
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_maydayjay_arbi2 - backports are patches that are from newer versions (breezy) to the hoary packages....07:00
bob2backporting is compiling a newer piece of software on an older system07:00
patrickjn/m I can do it through synaptic aparently :p07:00
bob2in thise case, breezy packages on hoary07:00
levanderpeople are still having trouble with backports? I thought people stopped using that?07:00
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naliothlevander: there are always new people07:01
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La_PaRCaso, any way I can split a file in two?07:01
r0tunalioth, tell me about it ;)07:01
nicedreamsarbi2, from what I gather backports have started with debian and it's like just following tradition.  I think it started from a few people adding software that regular debian repositories didn't have07:01
JDahlLa_PaRCa, yes, use split07:01
naliothSeveas: good morning07:01
_maydayjay_---  /msg ubotu backports07:01
nicedreamsarbi2, I could be wrong, but after a few years of using them that's what it seems like07:01
levandernalioth: no, but there were problems with some of the packages in there, their web server kept going down.  They've straightened those problems out?07:01
La_PaRCaJDahl, how do I... unsplit?07:01
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naliothlevander: i'm not familiar with those problems of late07:01
arbi2ok ... but07:02
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arbi2the default repositories that came insgtalles with my ubuntu07:02
arbi2what are they then ? are they of no use ?07:02
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HaroldEvening, all.07:02
naliothHarold: howdy07:02
nicedreamscan someone list what repositories are the regular now?  like the official and the backports and aren't there a few more?07:02
_maydayjay_arbi2 - think of the originals as master packages, and the backports as updates and addons....07:03
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JDahlLa_PaRCa, you concatenate the files using cat07:03
dabaRarbi2: tehre is a components page on ubuntu.com, cant find it tho...07:03
dabaRhey Harold07:03
HaroldAnyone: I've just installed Audacity; when I plug my headphones in, the sound only comes out of my PowerBooks's speakers.  Anyone know what's going on?07:03
Haroldnalioth, dabaR : Hello07:03
The_Voxuhm...when did we get an official backports project?07:03
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dabaRarbi2: here": http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components07:04
La_PaRCaJDahl, what if I wanted to extract just a piece of the file?07:04
JDahlLa_PaRCa, i.e., cat file1 file2 > concatfile07:04
_maydayjay_The_Vox - today or yesterday...dep on tz...07:04
dabaRarbi2: read that, informational...07:04
arbi2let me take a loko dabaR07:04
arbi2thanks dabaR07:04
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JDahlLa_PaRCa, I dont think you can07:04
dabaRyup.07:04
dabaRHarold: now, that is weird.07:05
La_PaRCaJDahl, ok, thanks07:05
The_Vox_maydayjay_: well, I hope the are as careful as the unofficial backports people...I'm updating a whole bunch of stuff right now lol!07:05
HarolddabaR, Yes07:05
fr500La_PaRCa, you can do searches based on lines easily07:05
fr500but whole lines07:05
arbi2also is there an order in which you must add these repositories ?07:05
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The_Voxarbi2: the order doesn't matter07:06
nicedreamsarbi2, no07:06
arbi2ok ....07:06
_maydayjay_The_Vox - you'll probably find some packages no longer exist due to copyright... may have to include marrilat for some stuff...07:06
dabaRHarold: checked with other headphones?07:06
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HarolddabaR,  Yes07:06
dabaRHarold: hm...works on X?07:06
nicedreamsarbi2, there is a way to tell the sources.lst which updates to take from which repositorites07:06
arbi2how is that ?07:06
arbi2using the GUI or command line ?07:07
BlazingSteakSauci need help finding some deb files i looked on archive.ubuntu.com and they are not there07:07
HarolddabaR, It's strange...I'm installing xmms right now to see if it's the same with other apps.07:07
dabaRarbi2: both07:07
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dabaRHarold: I mean, works on OS X?07:07
nicedreamsarbi2, some other file you have to use...i forgot what it is07:07
_maydayjay_Blazing - man apt-cache07:07
HarolddabaR, I don't know...I only had OS X on this old PowerBook for a day or so.07:07
nicedreamsman apt and I think it says it07:07
nicedreamsor man sources.lst07:08
arbi2test07:08
arbi2test07:08
arbi2am i in ?07:08
_maydayjay_arbi2 - yep07:08
BlazingSteakSauci need to download them07:08
The_Vox_maydayjay_: marrilat??07:08
BlazingSteakSaucmy ubuntu does not have internet right now07:08
arbi2thanks _maydayjay_07:08
JDahlLa_PaRCa, there is an online intro to common GNU tools here: http://labor-liber.org/presentations/gnu-linux/introduction/   Quickly flipping through it might be a good time-investment (and possibly interesting also)07:08
arbi2apt-get update is same as clicking the reload button on the synaptic?07:09
_maydayjay_The Vox - try deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat...in/w/w32codecs/07:09
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La_PaRCaJDahl, thanks07:09
BlazingSteakSauci need help finding some deb files i looked on archive.ubuntu.com and they are not there07:09
dabaRdo you see this in some weird way, like color or something?07:09
HarolddabaR, This is certainly an oddity; it's the same with xmms07:10
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dabaRarbi2: yes, it is,.07:10
The_Vox_maydayjay_: thanks :)07:10
dabaRatitude update as well.07:10
camino_teQuilahaloo07:10
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lucaz__hello..07:10
nicedreamswhat repository is synergy in now?07:10
rekaBlazingSteakSauc: such as...07:10
camino_teQuilaI've interested with ubuntu07:10
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lucaz__I got the gnome 2.8, and my gnome-panel got some bugs. Can I update only this app?07:11
thechitowncubsWhere can I find the default trash icon for the default ubuntu icon set?07:11
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arbi2thanks dabaR ... i am now slowly getting the hand of ubuntu07:11
camino_teQuilacould u paint some informations ?07:11
BlazingSteakSaucmosty libs07:11
BlazingSteakSaucneeded for some programs i got that require them07:11
BlazingSteakSauci got the list of em here07:11
dabaRcamino_teQuila: espanol?07:12
nicedreamswhat's a linux version of Irfanview?07:12
thechitowncubsnicedreams: gthumb07:12
_maydayjay_The Vox - sorry unchopped   deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main07:12
dabaR_maydayjay_: do you know what you are recommending? why not testing?07:13
dabaRor stable?07:13
_maydayjay_dabaR - sorry living on the edge...07:13
nicedreamsthechitowncubs, thx07:13
The_Vox_maydayjay_: thanks :)07:13
dabaR_maydayjay_: Im not sure either.07:13
BlazingSteakSaucwere can i find more libs for ubuntu in .deb07:13
_maydayjay_The Vox - dabaR is right...07:13
dabaRThe_Vox: thank him after you make sure he doesnt break your system...ha07:14
dabaR_maydayjay_: I am not sure I am.07:14
rekanicedreams: heaps of image viewers out there: gqview, pornview to name a couple...07:14
puffEvening.07:14
arbi2is breezeer still an ustable version ?07:15
puffI have this xp box, I'm trying to install ubuntu on it.  Step one, download the ISO for the install.  Step two, create a CD with the ISO.07:15
The_VoxdabaR: as long as it doesn't break emacs, I won't really suffer much ;)07:15
bob2arbi2: yes, until ovtober07:15
arbi2i man for home use not enterprise use07:15
dabaR_maydayjay_: just have him get the source, and compile, I think.07:15
The_VoxdabaR: and if it has an emacs update, I most definetely won't install it lol!07:15
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puffRegarding Step Two... all I have is this XP box, so I used RecordNow, which appears to come pre-installed.07:15
dabaRthere are no deps, not sure.07:15
nicedreamsgqview is the one i was looking for i think07:15
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Madpilot!iso07:15
ubotuMadpilot: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:15
_maydayjay_The Vox - testing is probably the better choice...07:15
puffI'm not certain this created a bootable Cd, or how I'd check.07:15
dabaRThe_Vox: sorry about the third person speech:)07:15
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dabaRC:)07:15
The_VoxdabaR: np :)07:16
BlazingSteakSauci need help finding some lib( ) .deb files i looked on archive.ubuntu.com and they are not there07:16
The_Vox_maydayjay_: that's what I'm thinking too :) thanks :)07:16
dabaRBlazingSteakSauc: which ones?07:16
bob2BlazingSteakSauc: e.g.?07:16
La_PaRCaEmacs infidels!07:16
Madpilotpuff: see this URL: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto07:16
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BlazingSteakSauclibc6 2.3.2.4-1.deb07:16
arbi2bob2... so if i have to install the beta version of mysql 5.0 so i have to download and compile from source or will i get ubuntu packages ?07:16
The_VoxLa_PaRCa: emacs r00lz! :P07:16
bob2BlazingSteakSauc: dude, you don't need that07:17
_maydayjay_Most forum examples are using testing....I would only enable the marrilat source when you need a particular package and then disable it afterwards...07:17
bob2BlazingSteakSauc: whatever you're trying to install is broken07:17
dabaRbob2: what would you do, would you install one of the debs from marillat on ubuntu for w32codecs, or complie from source?07:17
rekaBlazingSteakSauc: post the whole error and the command you used to the pastebin in the topic07:17
bob2arbi2: I'd be pretty surprised if mysql 5.0 is in breezy07:17
BlazingSteakSaucyeah i do07:17
bob2no, you don't07:17
BlazingSteakSaucit gave the message i need em07:17
bob2you're trying to install a Debian package07:17
bob2which won't work07:17
bob2dabaR: there's nothing to compile, it's just a bunch of dlls.  I'd probably just use the marillat package, for simplicity.07:18
arbi2bob2 , if ihave to pull packages from breezy.. do i have to add it to my repository ?07:18
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BlazingSteakSaucdon't tell me that it didn't i was sitting here and looked right at it07:18
dabaRbob2: any version? I think they actually only have a stable version, right?07:18
bob2arbi2: why do you think mysql 5.0 is in breezy?07:18
bob2dabaR: I doubt it differs07:18
dabaRbob2: by version, I m,ean stabel unstable, testeing...07:18
bob2dabaR: don't use apt for it, just get the .deb manually07:19
dabaRok. cool, thanks, there you go guys^^07:19
arbi2bob2, _if_ it is in breezy07:19
bob2BlazingSteakSauc: what are you trying to install?07:19
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arbi2then.. how do i pull it from a breezy version ?07:19
bob2arbi2: I'd strongly strongly strongly recommend not getting the binary package from breezy07:19
bob2arbi2: if it is there, get the ubuntu source package and compile it to produce your own packages07:19
BlazingSteakSaucsome quite a few things and the lib files are shown as they are neede for them all07:20
bob2BlazingSteakSauc: yes, those packages are meant for Debian, not Ubuntu07:20
dabaRw00t there is eggs in my fridge...feast...:(07:20
bob2they won't work on ubuntu07:20
bob2BlazingSteakSauc: what are you trying to install, i particular?07:20
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arbi2bob2.. but how do i pull stuff from breezy ?07:20
BlazingSteakSaucit came from a ubuntu site07:20
BlazingSteakSauci don't have the files on my they were transfered over to the ubuntu os07:21
bob2BlazingSteakSauc: *where*?07:21
dabaRarbi2: either go to archive.ubuntu.com and find it, or add breezy to sources.list07:21
bob2BlazingSteakSauc: well, they won't work on your system, sorry07:21
BlazingSteakSaucthis is xp being used right now07:21
bob2BlazingSteakSauc: what software is it that you want?07:21
dabaRBlazingSteakSauc: you are missing an e.07:21
bob2arbi2: add a breezy deb-src (NOT deb) line to /etc/apt/sources.list07:21
dabaR:p07:21
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BlazingSteakSauci knwo im missing the e it cut it off for somereason when i selected a name07:22
dabaRtoo long.07:22
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dabaRchoose something cooler and shorter, like, for example, dabaR, hehe, jj.07:23
BlazingSteakSaucthis server must have a low character limit07:23
HrdwrBoBno.07:23
HrdwrBoBit has a sensible character limit.07:23
BlazingSteakSaucon the other server i use it can do one 3 times the length of mine07:23
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dabaRwow!07:24
dabaRwhich one, I gotta go there...07:24
dabaR;)07:24
bloggernautauou07:24
BlazingSteakSauchttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ this it were i got the files from07:24
_maydayjay_:-)07:24
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bloggernautai'm learning how to use my new os ubuntu07:24
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bloggernautaand find this program x-chat07:24
HrdwrBoBBlazingSteakSauc: the smaller the nick the better.07:25
bob2BlazingSteakSauc: you need to actually tell us what you're trying to do07:25
bloggernautacool07:25
dabaRBlazingSteakSauc: why dont you tell us what you are installing?07:25
ezekiel1981can linux run my windows mcafee?07:25
bob2what software do you want?07:25
dabaRezekiel1981: no, you dont need it neither,.07:25
BlazingSteakSaucone of the files i downloaded was pacman from that site07:25
dabaRbloggernauta: and do you need help with anything? cause you didnt ask for anything, I am wondering...07:25
_maydayjay_ezekiel1981 - google clamav  ...07:25
dabaR_maydayjay_: he dont need it...07:26
dabaRhe needs to learn how to install programs thru apt.07:26
_maydayjay_for the ultra paranoid :-)07:26
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BlazingSteakSauci got no internet on the ubuntu os yet so can't restart and use it in here07:26
dabaRbob2: is apt authentication active in hoary, and if not, is it going to be in breezy?07:26
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dabaR_maydayjay_: lol07:26
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dabaRBlazingSteakSauc: what are you using to get onlien? AOL? Wireless?07:27
dabaRezekiel1981: do you know how to install programs?07:27
BlazingSteakSauci got aol but can't switch right now07:27
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BlazingSteakSaucif i can get online with it that the most important thing07:27
dabaRya, ok, cool, I was just wondering why you cant get internet on ubuntu.07:27
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ezekiel1981not exactly07:28
Madpilot!synaptic07:28
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto07:28
ZincXis there a good p2p software i can use ?07:28
Madpilotezekiel1981: start with the URL that ubotu just posted for info on installing stuff07:29
_maydayjay_ZincX, amule, limewire, gnutella07:29
BlazingSteakSauci wonder if my card for the modem is seen by the os07:29
bob2BlazingSteakSauc: then you should look at apt-zip07:29
bob2the packages you downloaded will not work, sorry07:29
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bob2dabaR: yes, it is07:29
BlazingSteakSauctats the only thing in pppconfig thats having an error07:29
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dabaRthanks.07:29
patrickjhow can i install all the dependencies for bluefish?07:29
BlazingSteakSaucthen if not there then were are ubuntu files at07:29
dabaRbut built in, I guess. Oh, ya, thats the md5sums we get from us.?07:29
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bob2patrickj: sudo apt-get install bluefish07:30
ZincX_mage_work,  which ones the best ?07:30
ZincX_maydayjay_,07:30
patrickjbob2: will it get all the dependencies too?07:30
bob2dabaR: apt had md5sum checks (to make sure files weren't corrupted during download) for a long time07:30
bob2patrickj: of course07:30
dabaRpatrickj: you had bluefish earlier?07:30
bob2patrickj: the whole point of apt is that it gets dependencies automatically07:30
patrickjdabaR: has to reinstall ubuntu :/07:30
bob2dabaR: the secure stuff is making sure that the server you think you're talking to is really run by ubuntu07:31
_maydayjay_ZincX - all depends on what kind of files you need...  and what your personal preference is....07:31
dabaRpatrickj: sorry to hear that, how come? upgraded to breezy?07:31
patrickjbreezy is out?07:31
bob2patrickj: no07:31
_maydayjay_patrickj - no07:31
ZincX_maydayjay_, i want to download some songs07:31
dabaRya, I know I read some about it. so its in the background, and all built into the OS?07:31
dabaRbob2: ^07:31
BlazingSteakSaucwere is a site to get ubuntu files if archive.ubuntu ain't it bob207:31
patrickjwhen its expected release?07:31
patrickjand is anyone in here using breezy?07:31
pepsibreezy is sexy, if you like fixing your broken system07:31
_maydayjay_ZincX - gnutella would be a good choice...07:31
bob2BlazingSteakSauc: dude, archive.ubuntu.com has packages for all 3 versions of ubuntu07:32
bob2BlazingSteakSauc: you got the wrong ones07:32
pepsipatrickj, whats up?07:32
bob2BlazingSteakSauc: you can use apt-zip to automate it07:32
dabaRpatrickj: um, every six months, so 4.10, 5.04, 5.10..07:32
dabaRpatrickj: how come you had to reinstall?07:32
bob2dabaR: well, "built into the OS" is a pretty loose concept in the linux world, but it is part of apt, yes07:32
gpdfailed to initialize HAL... grr07:33
dabaRbob2: I mean, ubuntu already has the keys for the servers built into apt. So I never had to think about it, that is what I mean by built in.07:33
bob2dabaR: it should do, yeah07:33
patrickjdabaR: I installed gentoo but my sound wouldnt work in it so I came back here :/07:34
lucaz__where can i check the list of woarty's package?07:34
dabaRpatrickj: why gentoo, anyhow, ymmv...cool, well, I am glad to seeyou back, fellow-current openbox user...haha.07:34
_maydayjay_lucaz - aptitude ... synaptic .. apt-cache07:35
dabaRlucaz__: I guess archive.ubuntu.com do you have warty installed?07:35
bob2lucaz__: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rweir/ubuntu_packages_powerpc.txt07:35
patrickjdabaR: well currently im using metacity for some various reason07:35
lucaz__dabaR, yes07:35
bob2lucaz__: but it's not a very useful list, 16 000 items long07:35
bob2also, bear in mind warty is old07:36
dabaRlucaz__: well, yes, synaptic will list all packages that you have enabled...and has a search function...07:36
patrickjbrb, gotta log out into gdm07:36
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dabaRok, cool that authentication is built in, I feel safer now;)07:37
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dabaRhey, I actually dont use ubuntu, my bad...07:38
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lucaz__dabaR, in my case, Im looking for the gnome-panel2.8.3, and I found the 2.10.1 in the warty and hoary lists, where can I found the 2.8.3?07:39
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j2dopehowdy. for some reason when my wireless connection gets disconnected, i can't start it up again. any help?07:41
j2dopeis there a command to force it to restart the connect?07:41
lucaz__j2dope, how your ifconfig output looks like?07:42
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sreekanthhi all07:42
j2dopelucaz__, u want me to copy and paste it?07:42
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lucaz__put on a msg :)07:42
j2dopehttp://pastebin.com/32207607:43
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sreekanthi am not able to get Video in totem07:43
j2dopethats from my eth1, which is my wireless connection07:44
jsgotangcosreekanth, hi you might be missing the appropriate codecs needed to view your video07:44
j2dopebut yeah.. if for whatever reason i lose signal, i cannot make it recconect07:44
dabaRlucaz__: well, not sure...07:44
bob2ray_: please don't dcc chat people07:44
dabaRor even, no idea.07:44
j2dopeim just after a command i guess, that when my wifi connection loses signal, i can force it to restart07:45
wizosup all07:45
_maydayjay_Anyone know if zd1210 wifi driver is included in 2.6.11?07:45
dabaRyo wizo07:45
j2dopeSYSTEM>>ADMIN>>NETWORKING, doesn't work when i go 'deactivate', then 'activate'07:45
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wizodabaR: im on the verge of doing something disastrous07:45
j2dopei have to reboot my computer completely07:45
sreekanthjsgotangco, where can i get ubuntu add ons with out using apt ?07:45
dabaRlike?07:46
wizoinstalling the nvidia driver07:46
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patrickjback07:46
dabaRkill an ant is disastrous for him...07:46
patrickjhey I need some help with something07:46
wizohaha07:46
dabaRno way.07:46
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wizothe last 2 times i did it, i had to reinstall ubuntu07:46
patrickjim installing an icon for the panel, instead of the standard gnome Icon, its an ubuntu icon, and I was wondering, just how do I access gconf?07:46
dabaRwizo: he didnt think it weas funny,. whats so disastrous about nvidia drivers?07:47
patrickjheres the icon if anyone wants it btw:http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2241307:47
wizoXORG cant find my laptop screen07:47
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rekapatrickj: apps > sys tools > config editor07:47
wizothe last 2 times i did it, i had to download hoary again, isntall everything -phew-07:47
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sreekanthjsgotangco, where can i get ubuntu add ons with out using apt ?07:48
_maydayjay_wizo can't you manually use one of the generic LCD selections?07:48
BlazingSteakSaucwere do i go fro ubuntu downloads07:48
wizo_maydayjay_: wad do u mean?07:48
dabaRwad?07:49
dabaRa wad...07:49
dabaR:-/...07:49
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_maydayjay_When I install I just choose LCD that can do 1024x768 ... it doesn't detect mine either...07:49
Madpilotpatrickj: there are instructions on that page w/ the Ubuntu logo07:49
dabaRsreekanth: wtf? like, manually downlaod them? archive.ubuntu.com07:49
wizo_maydayjay_: im running a laptop07:49
concept10WHat is the best place the host free photos?07:49
patrickjI know but lol im an idiot07:50
_maydayjay_wizo - so am I07:50
dtorg21I Installed the latest Java from sun, but it wont work with firefox.... Help please07:50
wizo_maydayjay_: ooo07:50
BlazingSteakSaucripway.com07:50
wizo_maydayjay_: so does yurs work now after installing the nvidia driver?07:50
Madpilotconcept10: imageshack.us07:50
dabaRlocalhost, in fact.07:51
concept10Madpilot, thanks07:51
BlazingSteakSaucconcept10 image shaq sucks use ripway.com you get 30megs of free organized space more if you pay07:51
dabaRlocalhost+ez-ipupdate+a dyndns account is what I have here07:51
_maydayjay_wizo - I am not using an nVidia chipset, but yes mine worked after choosing the right display..07:51
ZincXi forgot the .deb installin command again07:52
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wizo_maydayjay_: hwo do u do it?07:52
dabaRconcept10: consider that07:52
BlazingSteakSaucwere do i go for ubuntu downloads07:52
wizodabaR: i have a dyndns account too ^^07:52
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wizoitisthevery.endofinternet.org <= hehee thats mine07:52
dabaRI dont like their domains...selfip.org:/07:52
BlazingSteakSaucwere do i go for ubuntu downloads07:53
patrickjwhere in the gconf is the part that control the gnome main manu logo, I know it says on that screen, but its not in there :S07:53
ZincXwizo, u know how i can install .deb07:53
rekaBlazingSteakSauc: perhaps refining your question would help...07:53
MadpilotBlazingSteakSauc: Synaptic07:53
wizoZincX: errrr sudo dpkg ?07:53
ZincXah.. ok07:54
BlazingSteakSaucreka obviously i gpt ubuntu07:54
ZincXi keep forgettin those letters07:54
ZincXeheh07:54
_maydayjay_wizo - what kind of laptop do you have?07:54
wizoheh07:54
rekaBlazingSteakSauc: obviously07:54
wizo_maydayjay_: toshiba satellite 300007:54
BlazingSteakSauci got no internet on it right now synaptic don't do any good07:54
rekaBlazingSteakSauc: then you'll have to install stuff manually ...07:54
wizoBlazingSteakSauc: u got no net and u want to download? lolx07:54
rekaBlazingSteakSauc: which is a pain in the ass, 'cos you'll get dependency problems for most things07:55
BlazingSteakSauci got this one online don't it07:55
dabaRZincX: why installing a deb??07:55
wizoheh i was wondering07:55
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dabaRare you^07:55
ZincXgtk-gnutella07:55
rekaBlazingSteakSauc: you got which one online?07:56
_maydayjay_wizo 3000-???07:56
ZincXinstalling07:56
ZincXehehe07:56
BlazingSteakSaucif i can get the downloads i can take it from there07:56
dabaRsudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella07:56
BlazingSteakSaucxp part07:56
BlazingSteakSauci got a dualboot07:56
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wizo_maydayjay_: yeh satellite 3000 smth i have no idea07:56
ZincXreally ?07:56
BlazingSteakSaucfor now anyways07:56
dabaRZincX: mmhmm07:57
ZincXaah.. it works07:57
patrickjanyone know?07:57
ZincXapt-get install also workin07:57
BlazingSteakSauccrap my modem is not supported by the maker for linux07:57
_maydayjay_are there a few digits after the 3000 on the plate on the bottom?07:57
dabaRZincX: use aptitude if you know the name of the package, use synaptic in System>Admin>Synaptic when you are searching for wsomething and have a gui available.07:57
wizohang on07:57
ZincXhmm.. k07:58
patrickjguess not...07:58
dabaRor use the apt-get, aptitude is a prettier thing to type,07:58
wizo_maydayjay_: at the bottom it juz says satellite 300007:58
wizothere is a part number07:58
wizobut i doubt it would do any good07:58
dabaRpatrickj: I sure dont, why do you always skin everything, its a nice foot.07:59
ZincXCouldn't find any package whose name or description matched "gtk-gnutella"07:59
ZincXNo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.07:59
ZincX0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.07:59
ZincXdabaR, thats wat is says07:59
_maydayjay_wizo - what is the part #?07:59
dabaRZincX: well, saying it did not find it would suffice.07:59
Madpilotgah... the Arcive Manager needs an "extract into current directory" button...07:59
patrickjdabaR: maybe I wanna have the ubuntu logo on my taskbar, or whatever its called :D07:59
dabaRZincX: /join #flood07:59
dabaRpanel08:00
ZincXand ?08:00
wizo_maydayjay_: PS300L-03YKL08:00
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BlazingSteakSaucyou guys are so helpfull i would rather get an enima08:01
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SDFH_Linuxgood to see gaim 1.4 working in ubuntu but not yet in debian unstable08:01
DarkestCan someone help me? Os - Ubuntu 5.0.4. I need a package libatk. Synaptic says that ver. libatk1.0-0_1.9.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb is the lastest. But on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/atk1.0/ there is a newer version  libatk1.0-0_1.10.1-2_i386.deb. Why Synaptic don't want to see this version, and don't want to download it?08:01
lucaz__how can i get a specific version of a pkg?08:02
The_VoxDarkest: did you update the repo before checking?08:02
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dabaRDarkest: why you want this version...08:02
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DarkestThe_Vox, yes08:02
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The_VoxDarkest: then I have no clue08:03
patrickjwhere can I get some good backgrounds?08:03
jasoncohenDarkest, the latter package is from breez08:03
jasoncohen*breezy08:03
dabaRpatrickj: google image search08:03
citruswhats the best way of going about printing to a printer on a different windows machine on my network in ubuntu08:03
wizohey _maydayjay_: when after i rebooted after installing the driver, it then shows me the normal startup stuff like checking filesystem all that and then i get a black screen, as in, its not even turned on =/08:03
jasoncohenlibatk1.0 is version 1.9.1-0ubuntu1 in hoary. there's no reason to have the newer version just to do so08:04
S|AY3Rcan someone help plz...a friend is havin trouble w/ xchat....cant connect to efnet...ident issues08:04
jasoncohenyour system is fine08:04
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dabaRS|AY3R: tell your friend not to get banned.08:04
S|AY3Rhes not banned08:04
dabaRnice.] 08:05
S|AY3Rnot getting ident response08:05
patrickjdabaR: lol08:05
patrickjbrb08:05
S|AY3Rhmm08:05
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dabaRS|AY3R: not sure.08:06
patrickjwhen I startup my computer, firestarted auto goes, but it gives me an error: you do not have privelages to run firestarter, how can I fix this?08:06
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arbirfinally i got my name back08:06
S|AY3Rk08:06
arbirit ws boring being arbi1, arbi2 and so on08:06
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dabaRpatrickj: how do you auto start it?08:07
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dabaRarbir: :)08:07
arbir:-) @ dabaR08:07
patrickjit just goes auto once you install it :?08:07
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dabaRpatrickj: are you a sudoer? you must be...08:08
Computer__GuruOkay, I need help. I want *ANYBODY* on my local network to be able to browse my smb shared files WITHOUT a user/pass.. WTF is wrong with samba08:08
dabaRGO check out your session in System>Prefs|Admin08:08
dabaRfor startup progs, and tell me.08:08
Computer__Guruanyone? before i pull my friggen hair out08:09
dabaRgive it a sec08:09
dabaRhi, guru.08:09
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Computer__Guruhi08:10
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Computer__Gurulucaz__:  i'll dump it in a pastebin08:10
lucaz__ok08:10
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arbirdabaR: if i have 3 or 4 repositories.. and if i want to update a package .. how do choose from which repository the upate should come from ?08:11
b|ackwo|fdo you guys know if this linux distro works good on a dell dimension 3000 decently ?08:12
MortiComputer__Guru: security = share08:12
MortiI think.08:12
cyphasewould there happen to be a good utility for extracting a sound byte from an avi file?08:12
dabaRarbir: why would you do taht? just keep backports out of there nless you need them.08:12
Computer__Gurulucaz__:  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/78708:12
dabaRb|ackwo|f: wiki.ubuntu.com-->hardware support08:13
Computer__Guruthink that will do it?08:13
arbiri just put in backports as i had to update my firefox @ dabaR08:13
dabaRarbir: now remove them.08:13
dabaRand update08:13
arbirok....08:13
arbiri have also the community repository....enabled...08:14
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arbirso from where would the updates come @ dabaR08:14
Computer__Gurubrb08:14
MortiComputer__Guru: public = yes under the [MEDIA]  bit.08:14
IceDC571do i really need no firewall for ubuntu?08:14
miernikI want to use hoary with some packaes from breezy and debian sid and experimental, so according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto I've put APT::Default-Release "hoary"; in my /etc/apt/apt.conf But this doesn't work, aptitude still want's to upgrade for example binutils to 2.16.1-2ubuntu2 which is from breezy, and a bunch of other packages08:14
b|ackwo|fk08:14
dabaRarbir: did you read the components page ?08:14
MortiComputer__Guru: And change ;security = user to security = share.08:14
arbiryeah... i did....08:14
lucaz__try security = shared08:14
arbirdabaR: i think then i am missing something08:14
arbiror i amj ust sleepy :-)08:14
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dabaRarbir: well, each package comes from a specific repo.08:15
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lucaz__Computer__Guru, try security = shared08:15
dabaRarbir: they dont appear in two repos, only in one. However backports has newer versions, so duplicates happen there.08:15
arbirdabaR: can say for example... vi come from both comminuty and main ?08:15
rekaIceDC571: from what's been said in here, no ... the biggest risk is the person sitting in front of the computer. :)08:15
_maydayjay_mizo - all I can find is some articles mentioning to change the "nvidia" entry to "nv" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:15
Mortilucaz__: "share", not "shared".08:15
dabaRwtf community? first voice...08:15
arbirok i am taking out backports now! @ dabaR08:15
Computer__GuruMorti, lucaz__ : it worked :) now, how do I belong to a workgroup that has spaces int he name?08:16
wizo_maydayjay_: hmm same08:16
IceDC571reka: well do you think hackers target unix users more often than windows?08:16
Computer__Guruthe workgroup name is IN HELL WE BURN... i tried %20 as the space, but no go08:16
dabaRarbir: what is this community repo you are saying?08:16
HrdwrBoBComputer__Guru: try no spaces.08:17
Computer__GuruIN%20HELL%20WE%20BURN08:17
rekaIceDC571: for the pure fact that there are more windows users, no.08:17
Computer__Guruhrmm08:17
MortiComputer__Guru: Take the spaces out. ;)08:17
arbiroh that is08:17
Computer__Guruhahah08:17
arbirdeb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe08:17
MortiAlso, y'know, change the name of the workgroup 'cause that isn't nice.08:17
Madpilotuse IN_HELL_WE_BURN or something?08:17
arbirdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe08:17
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MortiJust don't use it, use something nice.08:18
Madpilotunderscores > spaces, supposedly08:18
dabaRarbir: that is universe. anyhow, check out in synaptic in some menu, there is a specify version, that is what means to specify from some repository, likely.08:18
Morti"bunnies" or something.08:18
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arbirthereis also this deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-update universe08:18
wizocya guys08:18
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IceDC571wizo: bye :)08:18
dabaRzya08:18
Computer__Guruthank you guys worked perfectly08:18
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dabaRnice08:18
arbirand how do i add breezy to my repository ?08:18
dabaRhehe08:18
Computer__Gurunow i can go downstairs and watch this movie on a real tv :D08:18
dabaRdont, and you dont.08:18
arbiri need to get the MySql 5.0 beta08:19
IceDC571oh god, please dont ask for help after you install breezy.. lol08:19
lucaz__Computer__Guru, take a look in your win, how it shows the name of th workgroup08:19
dabaRthe deb-src bob talked about?08:19
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arbiri want the source  and i will compile it myself08:19
dabaRarbir: how come you bneed that?08:19
arbiri have to eval mysql 5.008:19
IceDC571wizo: what seems to be the problem?08:19
arbirneed to check out some things in that....08:19
dabaReval? like evaluate?08:19
arbiryeah evaluate08:19
dabaRkool, sounds kool.08:19
wizoIceDC571: after installing driver, cant find my laptop screen08:19
IceDC571wizo: what motherboard chipset do you have?08:19
rekawizo: what instructions are you following?08:20
arbirwell.... i was just wondering08:20
arbirif i get the source08:20
wizothe previous 2 times i followed ubuntuguide.org08:20
arbirthen compile it08:20
wizoIceDC571: i have no idea08:20
lucaz__Computer__Guru, it shows with the spaces?08:20
dabaRnot sure. Something along the lines of deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe or whatever repo that program is ibn08:20
arbirand then ysing checkinstall.. make a debian package and install it.. will it get added to the apt database?08:20
dtorg21hey you guys wanna give ray_ his voice back, he helped me with Java and i wanna help him out08:20
arbirok dabaR08:21
rekawizo: well, a possibly better guide is here: wizo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:21
_maydayjay_wizo - I would set /etc/inittab to runlevel 3 and experiment a bit ... using startx to launch x ...08:21
arbiris it good to install from the mysql website ?08:21
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arbircompile from source ?08:21
wizohmm08:21
skalpelcan someone tell me how to enable the 'mailto' option in the right click menu in xchat?08:21
dabaRI am not sure, arbir if it will be in your apt, I dont think so, not sure what to be in apt means neither.08:21
_maydayjay_wizo - does it work without the nvidia drivers?08:21
dtorg21I cant get Wireless to work, anyone able to help me out i have a emachine 680908:22
wizoim not without nvidia drivers08:22
wizonow*08:22
wizothats wad my friend told me08:22
arbiri mean.. when i open my synaptic.. will mysql 5.0 beta show up ?08:22
_maydayjay_wizo - before?08:22
wizobefore?08:22
wizoin windows i use nvidia08:22
_maydayjay_wizo - on a fresh install?08:22
dabaRarbir: I dont think so. maybe...you have to see.08:22
arbirhttp://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ this is what i use to cleanly install and remove my packages08:22
rekaskalpel: /j #xchat08:23
_maydayjay_nvidia drivers are a manual process after install has completed usually08:23
wizoin linux, intel i think, thats wad my friend told me after looking at some things i pasted to him08:23
dtorg21hey can some please help ray_ get his voice back please08:23
arbiri have loed this util always...... makes rpms, slack packages and debian packaages08:23
arbirk dabaR i need to sleep now.. got work tomorrow.. thanks for the help.. nice talking toyou.... see you here soon :-)08:24
dabaRarbir: I think that if you get the source from their website, yeah sure. But I think taht bob recommended getting the source thing in your apt because that way you can build all the dependencies through apt, and not manually.08:24
dabaRyes, see ya.08:24
frankanybody use gxmame here?08:24
arbirhow do you leave a channel08:24
arbiri forgot the command :-)08:25
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dabaR /part08:25
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dabaR /part leave messagfe08:25
eknowledgok...so back to my whole "x won't start" problem08:25
arbirthanks dabaR08:25
dabaRhehe08:25
dabaRwelcome.08:25
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wizoheh08:26
eknowledgwoke up this morning...booted up....x won't start08:26
eknowledganyone have any ideas?08:26
rekaeknowledg: can you see anything fishy in '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'08:26
eknowledgsure can08:27
eknowledgsays that the nvidia drivers can't be found08:27
eknowledgbut when I lsmod | grep nvid*08:27
wizooooo08:27
eknowledgit shows nvidia08:27
wizodoes nvidia have issues with all linux?08:27
eknowledgno no08:27
poningruyeah kinda08:27
poningruerr nm thats ati08:27
eknowledgit worked flawless up until this morning08:28
poningruI am thinking about08:28
rekahmm, i'm an ati user myself, but post your xorg.conf file to a pastebin08:28
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poningruNvidia plays nice08:28
wizoit does?08:28
eknowledgreka I can't...I'm in term right now using bitchx08:28
wizoi juz isntalled the drivers08:28
wizogonan go restart my comp08:28
wizoand im pretty darn sure i wont beable to get back in08:28
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wizobe able*08:28
eknowledginstall bitchx first08:28
patrickjhey whats a good program to rip music?08:28
rekaeknowledg: join #flood, and paste it there08:29
psychonateIs there a command I can use to see what kind of file a certain file is.08:29
psychonatepatrickj, I prefer grip myself.08:29
eknowledgreka....how do you copy and paste in term?08:29
patrickjI have grip, but its reading my damm coldplay cd as a ronald reagan speech :/08:29
psychonaterofl08:29
rekaeknowledg: do you have a middle mouse button?08:29
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IceDC571grip with the right commands is beautiful08:29
psychonatepatrickj, check the CDDB options08:29
eknowledgi have no mouse in term08:29
patrickjpsychonate: where?08:29
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reka:)08:29
psychonatepatrickj, in the config/configure tab08:29
eknowledglol08:29
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wizook guys08:30
wizogonna reboot now08:30
psychonatebtw, anyone have an answer to my question?08:30
wizopray for me =p08:30
rekapsychonate: 'file <file>':)08:30
eknowledgdoes anyone know if there's a way to see the synaptics log?08:30
Madpilotpsychonate: http://linuxcommand.org/lts0030.php#file08:30
dabaRgood luck wizo.08:30
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psychonatereka, that saved the day for me :)08:31
psychonatereka, ty08:31
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patrickjpsychonate: what format should I rip to?08:31
keyeshello08:31
eknowledgreka outta ideas?08:31
psychonateI was trying to extract a subtitle from an archive with no extension, but I didn't know what it was compressed with heh08:31
rekaeknowledg: how'd you install the driver?08:31
skalpelcan someone recommend a good soulseek client besides nicotine?08:31
psychonatepatrickj, that's personal preference really. I prefer ogg vorbis myself.08:31
rekapsychonate: yep, useful command.08:32
eknowledgubuntuguide.org....but that's not the problem...because i did that after a fresh install...about 3 weeks ago, and it stopped working today08:32
patrickjhow can I add that format to ripping?08:32
cyphaseAnyone know of a utility for extracting a sound byte from an avi file?08:32
keyesIs multiverse in Synaptic (but non-selected) by default or multiverse must be added manually in source.list ?08:32
psychonatepatrickj, are you just going to be listening to these songs on your computer, or are you planning on transferring them to a portable player or anything?08:32
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patrickjjust my computer08:32
cyphaseogg is better08:32
rekakeyes: correct.  it must be enabled08:32
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psychonateogg vorbis is probably your best choice then08:32
psychonatecyphase, technically, ogg is just a container (vorbis the audio codec) AFAIK08:32
cyphasei know08:33
patrickjpsychonate: how do I add the option to rip *.ogg files in grip?08:33
lucaz__why not mp3?08:33
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cyphasetheora being the video codec08:33
psychonatepatrickj, I don't know off the top of my head, but it's all in the configure tabs08:33
patrickjmp3 is ....08:33
rekaeknowledg: not sure sorry ... don't know about nvidia probs really...08:33
keyesreka:  must be added maually (not a checkbox) ? ok08:33
patrickjcan u check yours and see?08:33
Mestapheleshi guys,  does d-i use parted as a backend?08:33
patrickjbecause im unsure of it08:33
psychonatecyphase, well, you can put more video than just theora video streams in an ogg container08:33
patrickj~/mp3/%A/%d/%n.wav/ogg, im guessing thats correct?08:33
eknowledgreka no prob mann, thanks for tryin08:33
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rekakeyes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositories08:33
eknowledganyone else have any ideas?08:33
psychonatecyphase, I have never tried theora. How is it?08:33
keyesthanks08:33
psychonatepatrickj, check the encoder option08:34
rekakeyes: or if you prefer editing directly: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3808:34
patrickj~/mp3/%A/%d/%n.%x :/08:34
psychonatepatrickj, just take your time and browse through all the options08:34
keyesthanks08:34
psychonateConfig > Encode > Encoder > Encoder08:35
psychonateyou want that to be oggenc08:35
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patrickjYAY i got it to work :p08:36
cyphasepsychonate, it's good08:36
cyphasesmall size08:36
cyphasegood quality08:37
skalpelcan someone recommend a good soulseek client besides nicotine?08:37
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rootsup all08:37
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cyphasesu root08:37
skalpelhello root.08:37
skalpelroot: you should not irc as root.08:37
wizoheh oops, in recovery mode now, lolx08:37
patrickjw00t08:37
wizousing irssi08:37
patrickjripping so slow...08:37
skalpelwizo: you should restart08:37
wizoerrrr skalpel: i cant08:38
skalpelwizo: quit irc08:38
skalpeli hear ircing as root can be very dangerous08:38
eknowledgwhy is that08:38
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eknowledg?08:38
cyphasevery08:38
wizoheh, i installed the nvidia drivers and i cant get to ubuntu08:38
skalpellogin as someone else08:38
wizohow?08:38
skalpelyou should not even be able to use irc in recovery mode08:38
wizowell, i am08:38
eknowledgwait wait, why is it so bad?08:38
wizothe only choice i have08:38
skalpelwizo: restart in regular mode and login as your username, then use irssi08:38
wizodude08:38
skalpelmaybe i am wrong08:38
skalpeli have always heard it is very unsafe to irc as root08:39
wizoskalpel: the problem is i cant08:39
skalpelk08:39
psychonatecyphase, better than say XviD or DivX?08:39
eknowledgbut what is the reasoning behind that?08:39
wizoskalpel: i am now unable to see the ubuntu login screen08:39
skalpelim not actually with ubuntu support, i am just passing advice along08:39
wizoyeh i know08:39
wizo=)08:39
skalpelwizo: use ctrl +alt +108:39
skalpelto switch to a terminal screen08:39
skalpelthen login and irc from there08:39
wizoi installed nvidia drivers, now im stuck08:39
skalpelas your username08:39
wizook08:39
wizobrb08:39
wizoexit08:39
wizooops08:39
skalpeleknowledg: i am not sure.08:39
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skalpeleknowledg: am i wrong?08:40
patrickjI think its doing mp3 encoding and ogg file extension :/08:40
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b|ackwo|fthe stuff in the wiki08:40
b|ackwo|fis that the only dell systems they work w/ thats confirmed?08:40
patrickjthe encoder is oggenc08:40
rekaskalpel: http://freshmeat.net08:40
skalpelk08:40
dabaRskalpel: noone is with ubuntu support, pretty much,...08:41
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wizook back, the ctrl alt 1 doesnt work08:41
skalpeldabar: ok, i feel better than08:41
skalpelthen08:41
dabaRskalpel: alt+ctrl+fN08:41
dabaRnot just N08:41
wizoits not working =(08:42
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IceDC571does anyone use sound juicer to rip to flac?08:42
skalpelyou should be able to do it now actually08:42
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wizoi cant =(08:42
psychonatehmm, I don't think this subtitle is a subtitle heh; 'file' reports: "MPEG ADTS, layer I, v1,  96 kBits, 44.1 kHz, Stereo"08:42
psychonatesounds like audio :(08:42
wizoused to work08:42
dabaRb|ackwo|f: I dont think so, google for more info on your lappy, find out exact hardware models inside it tho.08:42
j2dopehi. what's a reccomend voice chat app for ubuntu? i can't find skype in synaptic08:42
dabaRwizo: that would be very strrange, you sure?08:42
wizoyes =(08:42
patrickjj2dope: you have to add extra repos08:42
patrickjI got skype ionstalled08:43
dabaRIceDC571: mine ripped to ogg the other day.08:43
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patrickjbut I dont have a mic :/08:43
wizoctrl alt F2  etc etc08:43
cyphasepsychonate, i haven't really compared them to much08:43
j2dopei have. any idea which one its in?08:43
cyphasebut it seems to be08:43
j2dopei did a search for 'skype08:43
skalpelwizo: sorry, my incorrect advice08:43
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skalpelfunction keys, yes. =)08:43
IcE-bOyhi08:43
dabaRskype is on their site too, and on the ubuntuguide.08:43
eknowledgwhat does "fatal server error" "no screens found" mean?08:43
wizonow i cant even switch and use irssi to try and solve this darn error08:43
cyphaseAnyone know of a utility for extracting a sound byte from an avi file?08:43
patrickjj2dope: www.ubuntuguide.org08:43
IcE-bOyi have a problem with ubuntu .. udev doesn't starts, i can read at boot "udev requires tmpfs support"08:43
poningrudont use skype its not free08:43
patrickjextra repos, and Skype installation is in there ;)08:44
wizoskype is free, only for comp to comp08:44
IcE-bOybut i have tmpfs support, i have it in fstab08:44
poningruum I meant faif08:44
MrGardenHoseManis it possible to temporarily unload a driver08:44
poningrufreedom08:44
poningrufreedom damn it08:44
Madpilotj2dope: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto08:44
dabaRwizo: http://www.us.debian.org/intro/free08:44
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wizook anyway, as i expected, i got a blank screen again after installing the drivers08:44
wizo??08:44
MrGardenHoseManuntill another reboot or something like that08:44
dabaRMadpilot: (Y)08:44
eknowledgwaiittt....could be trying to install wine have anything to do with X not starting?08:44
j2dopethanks guys08:44
wizodabaR: giving me a link now would be futile08:45
MadpilotdabaR: huh?08:45
psychonatealright, well I think I will go indulge in some spaghetti western fun08:45
skalpelwizohi, i am having alot of problems with music skipping and slowdown on my desktop when playing music in rhythmbox08:45
skalpeldoes anyone know why?08:45
dabaRwizo: I guess.:)08:45
dabaRor, :(08:45
stevenjhas anyone successfully installed adblock using the official ubuntu firefox 1.0.6?08:45
rekaskalpel: local files, or off CD/DVD?08:45
wizoi`ll go try and access my xorg files08:45
rob^Why does synaptic list packages under different catagories then packages.ubuntu.com does?08:45
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dabaRMany people new to free software find themselves confused because the word "free" in the term "free software" is not used the way they expect. To them free means "at no cost". An English dictionary lists almost twenty different meanings for "free". Only one of them is "at no cost". The rest refer to liberty and lack of constraint. When we speak of Free Software, we mean freedom, not price.08:46
wizobtw before i go, wads the thing to start the xorg server08:46
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skalpelreka: local files.08:46
IcE-bOynautilus always says me that i have to insert an empty media, i have tried with a lot of cds ... always the same message, and the record hardware works well, what could happend ?08:46
rekaskalpel: system specs?08:46
rob^what?08:46
eknowledgsomeone PLEASE help me with getting X to start whenever they have free time...08:47
rob^stevenj, yes08:47
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skalpelreka: emachine t3882 with intel extreme graphics2 3d integrated08:47
wizowads the command to start the xorg server08:47
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skalpelreka: i can play these files in xp and have no such trouble.08:47
eknowledgstarx08:47
rekaskalpel: RAM?08:47
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eknowledgstartx**08:47
skalpelreka: 256 mb08:47
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wizostartx** ?08:47
eknowledgwizo startx08:47
dabaRjust startx08:47
eknowledgno *08:47
wizook thx08:47
eknowledgsure08:47
dabaRlook, wizo, it likely wont work tho.08:47
wizoy not?08:47
dabaRI mean, I dont know much...08:47
rekaskalpel: it might be a sound config quirk ... are you against trying a different player?08:47
dabaRtry, I guess, I cant give any advice, sorry.08:48
wizoskalpel: try alsa08:48
wizocya guys =(08:48
dabaRcya, good luck.08:48
skalpelreka: no i am actually for it. i tried to use amarok but it is not compatible with the esd sound engine, supposedly.08:48
eknowledgsooner than you think08:48
skalpelwizo: ok08:48
skalpelreka: i dont like xmms either08:48
rekaskalpel: oh, i was gonna recommend beep-media-player :)08:48
dabaRMadpilot: (Y) is a thumbs up in msn icons...good link above from the wiki, rather than the guide.08:48
rob^skalpel, have you tried bpm?08:48
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skalpeli will try it08:48
skalpelis it in synaptic?08:48
patrickjbmp is the vest08:48
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rekaskalpel: it's an xmms clone08:48
rob^skalpel, gtk2 interface xmms08:48
patrickjskalpel: i think so08:49
rob^reka, its not a clone, its a fork08:49
dabaRrob^: beep-player-media?08:49
evoAnyone else have the problem where when you plug in a usb pen drive it mounts the whole device rather (/dev/sda) than the 1st partition (/dev/sda1)??08:49
rob^yes08:49
skalpeli prefer a WMP type ui08:49
MadpilotdabaR: ah, OK. thanks!08:49
skalpeli dont like winamp/xmms08:49
MrGardenHoseMananyone know how to unload a driver?08:49
rekarob^: i stand corrected08:49
skalpelbecause i am at 1280x1024 and the window is too small08:49
rob^skalpel, tried rhythmbox?08:49
skalpeli am using rhythmbox, that is where the trouble lies08:49
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rob^whats the problem?08:50
skalpelinterference with the video08:50
skalpelchoppyness08:50
skalpelmusic skipping08:50
wizook great, i tried to access /etc/x11/xorg.conf but the folder doesnt seem to exist08:50
rob^video an rhythmbox?08:50
skalpeli changed my video driver but it has not helped that08:50
wizoskalpel: try using VLC08:50
rob^use totem-xine for video08:50
wizois it X11 or x11?08:50
dabaRrob^: beep-media-player.08:50
rob^does use gstreamer, nice and fast08:50
eknowledgX1108:50
eknowledgI believe08:50
dabaRX08:51
rob^oops08:51
rob^doesn't08:51
patrickjhey, if I so happen to have some old mp3 on cd, how can I convert them to ogg?08:51
wizook im an idiot08:51
rob^I ment08:51
dabaRno youre not.08:51
poningrupatrickj: audacity08:51
skalpelyeah like when i load a web browser i get tiny excerpts of music i already stopped playing in rhythmbox, it is terrible08:51
patrickjponingru: what about mp32ogg?08:51
poningruhavent used it08:51
poningruso no clue08:51
stevenjrob^, thanks08:51
NicPif i use ctrl-alt-f6 to get a new terminal window08:51
rob^skalpel, have you filed a bug?08:52
NicPhow can i start an x session in that window?08:52
rob^skalpel, that doesn't sound rigt08:52
dabaRNicP: tried Apps>SystemTools>NewLogin, for f8?08:52
rob^right ^08:52
NicPstartx gives me an error that i already have x running on that display08:52
rob^man I'm tired08:52
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skalpelit is not right08:53
skalpelhow do i order a bugreport for it?08:53
NicPdabaR, thanks08:53
rob^!bugs08:53
skalpeland how soon does that usually fix the problem?08:53
dabaRNicP: ya... skalpel get the waiter08:53
rob^umm.. hello ubotu!08:53
skalpeli thought so. it would be nice to listen to music now. =)08:53
rob^skalpel, might be fixed in breezy08:53
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dabaRhe is alive, rob^08:54
rob^skalpel, depends how bad they consider it08:54
skalpeli dont really want to re-install either08:54
eknowledgis there a web browser for term?08:54
patrickjponinguru: thanks, it works :d08:54
Madpilot!ubotu08:54
ubotuI heard ubotu is uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu!08:54
dabaR /msg ubotu bug08:54
rob^ah there he is08:54
rob^just ignoring me08:54
TommoHi, im trying to install a program written in pthyon and i get this error,    error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Mak efile (No such file or directory)08:54
Madpilotheh. earlier this week ubotu would only talk to me via /msg08:54
Madpilotwhich made using it on this channel a bit hard...08:55
skalpel* obotu :No such nick/channel08:55
cyphaseHow do I pipe sound output into a file?08:55
rob^!bugzilla08:55
ubotumethinks bugzilla is https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/08:55
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skalpelk08:55
dabaRrob^: just bug works too.08:55
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patrickjwhy is ripping music sooo sloooooooooooow08:55
skalpelyeah i get problems with the mouse too when i am loading web browsers08:55
ondrejmm all08:55
j2dopeback again.. what's a reccomend pod cast program for ubuntu?08:55
dabaRNicP: another thing.08:55
eknowledgso anyone know a web browser for terminal?08:55
rob^dabaR, yeah, he doesn't like me though :)08:55
skalpelmy video seems fucked up unilaterally08:55
skalpelwhereas it was not under windows08:55
patrickj! pastebin08:55
uboturumour has it, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood08:55
ondrejanybody from ShipIt team here?08:55
rob^j2dope, ipodder08:55
skalpelit is the one problem i am having with ubuntu right now08:55
patrickjsorry just needed to test my theory08:56
Tommowhat do i do?08:56
patrickj:d08:56
patrickjthe the stupid gentoo channel is ? pastebin08:56
cyphasej2dope, bashpodder is a simple command line podcatcher08:56
cyphaseand i'm working on one08:56
dabaRpatrickj: speed is realative to the person observing it.08:56
dabaRow, were you not that fast...08:56
Madpilotthere's an error in ubotu's !bugzilla entry... bad URL, should be "http", not "https"08:56
dabaRn08:56
rob^Madpilot, either works for some reason08:56
dabaRMadpilot: change it08:57
patrickjis there any way I can mass convert music, like 100 files at a time?08:57
Madpilotcorrecting now...08:57
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dabaRNicP: check out xnest, you can install it with sudo aptitude install xnest, it allows for a window with a new login. works faster than newLogin08:57
Madpilot!bugzilla08:57
ubotubugzilla is probably http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/08:57
wizololx guys, i got back into my account08:57
wizo=D08:57
patrickjor at least 20?08:57
dabaRMadpilot: msg the bot08:57
dabaRwizo: no way!08:58
eknowledgwizo got into X?08:58
wizoyeh08:58
dabaRhehe, nice.08:58
j2doperob^, is ipodder in synaptic?08:58
eknowledgcool so you could look up something for me?08:58
eknowledglol08:58
skalpelcomputer_guru: are you there?08:58
wizoi changed smth from NVIDIA11 or smth to a humble nv in the xorc.conf file08:58
j2dopei dont have an ipod, i have a Creative Zen Micro.08:58
wizoxorg.conf file08:58
dabaRskalpel: what was it again?08:58
eknowledganyone know what the webbrowser is called for terminal?08:59
wizobut now i cant run glxgears08:59
wizoeknowledg: lynx?08:59
anacroneknowledg: lynx or links208:59
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wizobut i doubt ubuntu has it08:59
eknowledgwizo !...you're the shhh....08:59
parabolizeeknowledg, or w3m...08:59
eknowledgwhat's best?08:59
rob^eknowledg, lynx09:00
parabolizeI like links209:00
eknowledgI need web...but have no X09:00
dabaRgood luck with a cli browser:)09:00
rob^dabaR, they are not that bad09:00
patrickjeknowledg: try $ sudo apt-get install links09:00
cyphaseHow do I pipe sound output into a file?09:00
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skalpeldabar: i am having serious video slow down when i play music in rhythmbox09:01
dabaRrob^: sure, I just wish I knew how to use it...09:01
patrickjits the best text baed browser09:01
skalpelwhen i play mp3's09:01
wizohow do i see wad video driver im using?09:01
dabaRwell, I guess I would know if need come...09:01
mebaran151hey neato09:01
MadpilotI still use Lynx a few times a year... it's interesting!09:01
skalpelit interferes mostly with firefox09:01
mebaran151I can encode a Fellini film09:01
patrickjskalpel: dont play music in rythm box then09:01
dabaRvideo slow down what?09:01
mebaran151in only 600 kbps09:01
parabolizeeknowledg, w3m is installed by default I think09:01
mebaran151original quality09:01
dabaRlike, everything slows down?09:01
skalpelif i open a web browser my mouse gets choppy and computer slows down and acts sluggish09:01
mebaran151the power of black on white09:01
rob^skalpel, are you trying to play mp3s and videos at the same time?09:01
dabaRskalpel: why niot use something else?09:01
skalpelpatrickj: i have not found another music player that will work for me09:01
skalpelrob^: no i am not09:02
mebaran151skalpel, try muine or xmms09:02
dabaRxmms will after you change something...09:02
mebaran151or beep-media-player09:02
rob^so how can you get slow down?09:02
skalpeldabar: i would like to find something else that works but have been unable yo09:02
skalpelxmms is too tiny for me to even see09:02
dabaRsudo aptitude install xmms09:02
dabaRah09:02
dabaR:)09:02
skalpeli have xmms installed09:02
rob^skalpel dabar: i am having serious video slow down when i play music in rhythmbox09:02
skalpeli will try it09:02
dabaRthere is double size mode.09:02
dabaRlet me see09:02
rob^that doesn't make sense09:03
skalpelok, so it is not video slowdown.09:03
wizoi have a video slowdown too09:03
dabaRskalpel: open xmms09:03
skalpelit is a memory problem. i am no computer expert so you will have to bear with me09:03
skalpelk09:03
dabaRctrl+d doubles the size09:03
dabaRtry09:03
skalpelwhich is hideous09:03
skalpeli may have to compromise it looks like09:03
rob^skalpel, what type of PC do you have (hardware)?09:03
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skalpelrob^: an emachine intel deleron d 335 with 256 mb memory09:04
dabaRafk09:04
patrickjbut, is there a way to mass convert my music?09:04
IceDC571holy crap.. ubuntu is way behind on the gtkpod version09:04
skalpeli do not have this problem with windows xp, just ubuntu09:04
rob^skalpel, thats half your problem09:04
rob^skalpel, try not to use anything with gstreamer09:04
rob^ie09:04
rob^use totem-xine for video09:04
rob^and xmms for music09:04
skalpeland for music?09:04
skalpelugh. xmms is so ugly, i hate the ui09:04
MortiChange the skin hten. ;09:05
Morti*then09:05
skalpelbesides i cannot make xmms load music.09:05
Morti*;)09:05
rob^skalpel, well upgrade your pc then09:05
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skalpelit is not a problem with my pc because i do not have this problem in windows.09:05
Mortibeep-media-player is cool. XMMS but nicer.09:05
skalpelxmms just hung on me.09:05
patrickjskalpel: so get beep-media-player09:06
patrickjskalpel: I use bmp, and LOVE it09:06
skalpelalright i will try it09:06
skalpelit is in synaptic?09:06
patrickjone sec09:07
mebaran151skalpel, bmp is nice09:07
mebaran151gtk2 and eerything09:07
patrickjalso, have yiou downloaded all the media codecs?09:07
dabaRskalpel: change the dafauklt output plugin to esound09:07
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patrickjskalpel: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories09:07
dabaRrigth click, Options, Preferences...09:08
patrickjskalpel: follow those steps09:08
skalpelyeah my computer is even slowing down now when i move the mouse around. i was thinking it has something to do with virtual windows or an app i have open, but it is definately on the desktop09:08
dabaROutput plugin>Esound09:08
patrickjthen $ sudo apt-get install beep-media-player09:08
skalpeldabar: how do i do that?09:08
dabaRpatrickj: no, why add repos...09:08
parabolizeI think the problem is your video driver. even if the comp works in windows.09:08
skalpelit must be the driver, i switched from the default driver to vesa on the advice of someone in here09:08
skalpelit also slows down extensively when i have terminal windows open, like i am loading down the video memory but i know i am not.09:09
IceDC571is it just me or is sourceforge not working?09:09
patrickjdabaR: is bmp in the repos without em?09:09
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patrickjdabaR: and its also handy for extra software09:09
parabolizeintegrated video just doesn't do well in linux.09:09
salilhelp me09:09
skalpeli hate to hear that09:09
skalpeli do not want to switch back to windows09:09
skalpeleverything is better here09:09
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salilsomeone .. help me09:10
parabolizeskalpel, got a agp slot?09:10
dabaRskalpel: there is an explanation on how to set up xmms to play above, with the right click.......09:10
skalpelparabolize: i do not know but i am not looking to change my hardware currently, i would switch back to xp first09:10
dabaRsalil: I help you at this  moment.09:10
skalpeldabar: thank you sir09:10
dabaRsalil: stating what the problem is would help me helping you.09:11
dabaRsir is lame. But, ok, welcome.09:11
salilmy ubuntu computer doesnot connect to internet properly..09:11
salili have an external modem.. 56K..09:11
salilthe modem doesnot respond properly.. and  does not connect..09:11
jeremiassalil: get a better connection09:11
dabaRsalil: call a museum...;)09:11
salilwhen it does connect.. its very very slow.. or . no data is transferred at all09:12
skalpeli want to do it and put butter all over you lovebug09:12
dabaRthey may want that...haha, I am evil.09:12
patrickjgoodnight errybody09:12
dabaRskalpel: wrong channel.09:12
dabaRpatrickj: cya09:12
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dabaRlol@skalpel^^09:12
Madpilotum... skalpel, wrong channel or something? :)09:12
skalpeldabar: actually that is an aim window, i am chatting with my gf =)09:12
salili can't get a better connection..09:12
mebaran151skalpel, sure .....09:12
skalpeli am so embarassed now09:12
mebaran151sure .....09:12
skalpelhahaha09:13
salilthere's no better connection here..09:13
skalpeli told her what happened, and what you all think09:13
mebaran151sure ....09:13
skalpeland how nothing will ever change it, which is true09:13
skalpelso i should just accept the fact that you all think i am cybering now09:13
skalpelhaha09:13
dabaRskalpel: cool, man, no worries.09:13
skalpeli hope i can still get ubuntu suppoirt09:13
skalpelhaha09:13
salilmy windows pc works just fine.. but .ubuntu pc is giving me problems..09:13
mebaran151will shall remember you FOREVER for your ... insidious ways09:13
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Madpilothave fun... just don't share any more with us, please...09:13
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skalpelk09:13
salilcan you please help me09:13
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kokoko1hi09:14
kokoko1anyone using kubuntu?09:14
dabaR#kubuntu09:14
knowledge_Yeap...I DID manage to get X working all by myself...and I'm very proud of myself09:14
salilhey.. guys.. please help me09:15
dabaRsalil: I wish I knew how.09:15
parabolizekokoko1, they have there own channel. ;-)09:15
skalpelso no more ideas on my video driver and massive memory slowdown huh?09:15
salilokay..09:15
knowledge_dabaR, haha09:15
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knowledge_salil, ask mann09:15
dabaRskalpel: got xmms working at al?09:15
kokoko1okay09:16
dabaRskalpel: not about the driver, but I can give you some ideas about the butter stuff...09:16
salilhey.. and what do you have to do to listen to mp3..??09:16
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Madpilot!mp309:16
ubotufrom memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support09:16
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Madpilotsalil: see the URL that ubotu just posted09:16
mebaran151ubotu, we are so proud09:16
ubotumebaran151: okay09:16
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salildoes the music player that comes with the os..??09:16
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dabaRknowledge_: he ashed...09:16
lhbubotu is a genius09:16
ubotulhb: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about09:16
light_punch2how can i set 3 logon attempts for each users?  if they try more that 3, system will lock them out.09:16
knowledge_dabaR, very true09:17
dabaRsee, lhb that is what makes a great mind, modesty...09:17
dabaRknowledge_: he asked...09:17
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skalpeldabar: i am actually ok on the gf thing09:17
skalpeli wish computers were as easy as girls09:17
Madpilotsalil: the music players that come with Ubuntu will play mp3, but see that web page for instructions on how09:17
dabaRits about dialup. not sure abnout stufff09:17
dabaRskalpel: blasphemy!!!09:17
dabaRgirls are much harder than cvomputers...09:17
lhbskalpel: mmmm....09:17
salilokay.. thanks..09:18
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skalpeli will try out xmms now09:18
skalpelif i can stop laughing09:18
skalpelhaha09:18
dabaRskalpel: xmms?09:18
dabaRok go.09:18
salilbtw.. guys.. girls are damn easy..09:18
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salilnothing like computers09:18
dabaRye, me too...09:18
Madpilotthere's no "man girlfriend" or "girlfriend --help"...09:18
Madpilot:)09:18
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dabaRsalil: ya, ok, we know...its us that are not easy, I guess.09:18
salil;)09:18
saliltry harder guys.. practise makes one perfect.09:19
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dabaRnono, with me, I am shy, I get lots of girls around me, but I am shy to make the move, anyhow, not realted whatsoever.09:19
b|ackwo|flol09:19
skalpelyou have to find a girl who needs sex all the time09:19
skalpelthat is what i did09:20
skalpelit took me awhile though09:20
skalpelslightly off topic though09:20
skalpelhehe09:20
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Madpilotthen you start posting about butter...09:20
parabolizelol09:20
skalpelanythingto keep it interesting09:20
skalpeldabar: xmms wont load for some reason, i will probably need to restart09:20
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dabaRhha, he is totally keeping it interesting...09:21
dabaRrestart what?09:21
dabaRterminal>killall xmms09:22
skalpelk09:22
aleksidoes anyone have clue why my webserver and ssh server stopped from working if I try connecting with their LAN ip(192.168.1..., but work with my domainname which is routed to server by firewall09:23
skalpeldabar: grand, it worked. now what was i supposed to do in the rigth click menu?09:23
dabaRoptions>props>output plugin(default) esound!09:24
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aleksithis happened after upgrade to hoary09:24
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skalpeli think i am just running too many apps in ubuntu and gnome is hating me for it09:26
skalpeli believe it is the virtual desktop, as windows has nothing similiar to coplain about, which it would i am sure09:26
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dabaRaleksi: which did?09:27
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r2d4anyone install webmin on ubuntu? I installed the package. started it with /etc/init.d/webmin start. But nothings on https://localhost:1000009:27
gm78r2d4, instead of doing localhost, try your ip address (the one your router assigns you)09:28
Madpilotr2d4: what about just "http://localhost" instead of "https"?09:28
gm78Madpilot, it needs to be https://09:28
frankr2d4: webmin also has the problem of only giving access to root, who has no password.09:29
r2d4same. not on http either.09:29
gm78r2d4, for instance https://192.168.2.155/1000009:29
dabaRskalpel: I dont think you are making much sense, the virtual desktops is nothing. YOu can choose to run something like me, openbox, which is a minimal WM, no desktop, very low mem usage.09:29
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gm78r2d4, did u try the ip address thing?09:29
Madpilotgm78: ah, ok. not familiar w/ webmin, but I do run apache...09:30
r2d4gm78: trying09:30
skalpelwell if you say virtual desktops is nothing then i believe you, because i think i have used them in litestep with windows and never had such a problem, it must be something else09:30
parabolizeopenbox is great, I use it, but it is kinda had to make menus in xml...09:30
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dabaRskalpel: xmms playing now?09:30
skalpelwhich suggests to me it is a driver thing, or soe software something, or config setting, i just canot fid it09:30
gm78frank, you can easily set a root passwd in ubuntu09:30
parabolizeskalpel, there is xfce09:30
dabaRparabolize: actually, it is easy...depending on how much you know about it...09:30
skalpelparabolize: and how is that?09:31
skalpelit seems like gnome should work ok09:31
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parabolizedabaR, well if you allready write xml its easy09:31
r2d4gm78: nope. not working. is this a daemon? should I check somehow if it is running?09:31
dabaRparabolize: and, how much you are trying to change...I modified it a bit...09:31
dabaRparabolize: or if you use html, even...09:31
dabaRI dont write xml, almost at all.09:31
dabaRI am intelligent, tho...09:31
skalpeldabar: yes it works now.09:31
gm78r2d4 by chance do u have port 10000 blocked off with a firewall. that shouldnt affect anything but it might09:31
dabaRand I had a template09:32
skalpeli still hate it though09:32
skalpel=)09:32
dabaRskalpel: haha09:32
parabolizedabaR, everything I can! http://users.adelphia.net/~phann8/images/Screenshot2005-06-27.png09:32
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dabaRhaha09:32
dabaRnice09:32
r2d4gm78: I don't think I have a firewall on this one. But atleast localhost should be clear. no?09:32
parabolizelots of new hotkeys09:32
dabaRhow do you take that screenshot again?09:33
dabaRnice09:33
gm78r2d4, i would assume so. i cant understand why webmin wouldnt be working. did u install it thru apt?09:33
marlijsHi, how can I add user foto to user profile?09:33
parabolizeprint key will take a screen shot09:33
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dabaRparabolize: I am a new openbox user, you should see mine:)09:33
r2d4gm78: yes. apt-get09:33
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gm78r2d4, hmmm....it worked fine for me09:33
r2d4gm78: I did not configure anything.09:33
light_punch2is there a command like lpstat?09:34
r2d4gm78: am I supposed to?09:34
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light_punch2for printer status09:34
gm78r2d4, i dont believe so....i didnt have to if i remember correctly09:34
dabaRjust the print key by itself?09:34
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Tribunehi all09:34
gm78dabaR, yes, and alt+print will take a screenshot of a single app09:34
dabaRnot working here...in openbox?09:35
KmorphHi guys09:35
Tribunei'm facing problem of installing several program using apt-get.. can anybody assis me09:35
dabaRwhere does it save thhe file? or is it supposed to open a dalog?09:36
AlexMBasTribune: what's up?09:36
dabaRTribune: give us the errrors, or something...09:36
gm78dabaR, should open a dialog09:36
dabaRgm78: ya, that gnoem dialog...09:36
dabaRhm...09:36
dabaRIll open nautilus09:36
dabaRor somtehing, altho, its open...09:36
dabaRhm..09:36
TribuneE: Couldn't find package. what dooes it mean?09:36
dabaRgnomepanel, maybe.09:36
dabaRTribune: means you dont have teh package, which one are you installing?09:37
AlexMBasmaybe wrong package name Tribune09:37
Tribunei try to sudo apt-get install realplayer. and flashplayer09:37
dabaRhahaha, I am not using ubuntu, again I am so stupid...09:38
Tribunei tried to follow ubuntuguide.org09:38
Madpilot!flash09:38
ubotuI guess flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:38
NermalTribune, added all the repositories ?09:38
MadpilotTribune: follow the URL that ubotu just posted, instead09:38
Madpilot!repos09:38
ubotuwell, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:38
Tribunei'm new in linux actually09:38
Nermalwe guessed09:38
dabaRMadpilot: yeah, both realplayer and flash should be there.09:38
Tribuneprevious i just try using knoppix09:39
dabaRwe guessed:)09:39
dabaRI mean, I am laughing at that statement, not that I guessed.09:39
Tribuneand i find kubuntu very interesting09:39
Nermal!info flashplugin-nonfre09:39
Nermal!info flashplugin-nonfree09:39
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (hoary), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB09:39
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paxubotu forget backports09:39
ubotupax: i forgot backports09:39
paxubotu Backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted09:39
ubotupax: okay09:39
asdxHoary uses initng or sysvinit?09:39
r2d4gm78: I ran /usr/share/webmin/miniserv.pl /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf. It returns after a couple of secs. Since this is a non daemonized process, I was expecting it should not. But it does not give me any traceback.09:40
parabolizeTribune, kubuntu has a channel. #kubuntu09:40
benplautthe new Inkscape .42 looks pretty sweet09:40
NermalTribune, I would do sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla09:40
benplauttoo bad it still lacks a decent layers panel...09:40
NermalTribune, you can use apt-cache search <packagename> to find packages09:40
asdxHoary uses initng or sysvinit?09:40
Madpilotanyone here know anything about Apache2? it seems that Ubuntu's apache has a slightly non-standard setup09:40
Nermalasdx, stop repeating09:40
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dabaRwtf pax, he knew taht already, for one, for two, msg the bot.09:41
benplautthat's a way to stop repeating :P09:42
holycowwow09:42
holycowinkscape 4.2 looks really cool09:42
holycowit even has some bits adobe doesn't have09:42
dabaRHoly Cow, It's cool!09:42
Nermal!info inkscape09:42
ubotuinkscape: (Vector based drawing program), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.40-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 3807 kB, Installed size: 14628 kB09:42
Madpilotlike, it's free?09:42
paxdabaR: chill out and get some fresh air.09:42
holycowlike a peculiar gradient feature that lets you warp the gradient09:42
Nermalhmm.. is 0.42 in breezy ?09:42
holycowdabaR, indeedy!09:42
Tribunei'm blurr09:42
benplautor even .43, maybe09:43
dabaRpax: he knew it already, but, ya, good advice.09:43
holycowNermal, no09:43
benplautwhat is this !info thing?09:43
holycowoh breezy, *smack*09:43
holycownever mind09:43
holycowits too early09:43
Nermalbenplaut, package info ?09:43
paxdabaR: you said that twice, you want a medal?09:43
benplautohy09:43
benplauta bot?09:43
holycowhttp://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/gallery/inkscape-0.42-CVS-effects.png  <-- this looks wicked09:43
Nermalaye09:43
dabaRpax: ya, got one?09:43
skalpelwhat directory do i find xmms in?09:43
dabaRskalpel: why is that?09:44
Tribune/home/inul # sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla09:44
TribuneReading package lists... Done09:44
TribuneBuilding dependency tree... Done09:44
TribuneE: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla09:44
Nermal"In this version the development community closed 404 bugs, some quite serious, and 165 feature requests."09:44
benplaut!info xterminal09:44
ubotuxterminal: (The Terminal emulator application), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.2.4-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 714 kB, Installed size: 1636 kB09:44
NermalTribune, add the extra repositories09:44
Nermalas stated before09:44
parabolizeskalpel, type locate xmms in a term09:44
dabaR!msg the bot09:44
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, msg the bot is please use /msg ubotu to play with the bot, the channel does not benefit much from your fun. Sorry.09:44
benplautso... why does it put it as under someone's name?09:44
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skalpeldabar: i want to change the skin i am using to something less hideous09:44
Madpilotbenplaut: the !info thing is one of ubotu's features09:44
Tribunehow to add?09:44
benplautoh09:44
Nermal!repos09:44
uboturepos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:44
dabaRskalpel: well, you dont need the folder.09:45
benplautubotu is a bot...09:45
ubotuWish i knew, benplaut09:45
NermalTribune, see that url09:45
Madpilot!ubotu09:45
ubotuubotu is, like, uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu!09:45
holycow*ooo* align tool is neat, take THAT adobe!09:45
holycow:)09:45
skalpeldabar: how do i change the skin? i downloaded one to my home dir and want to try it out09:45
dabaRjust a sec09:45
benplautrgr... i've heard that answer before09:45
skalpelis there nobody in here who has had success making amarok work under gnome?09:45
Tribunebrb09:45
Burgundaviaskalpel, there is a page about it09:45
skalpeloh? awesome.09:45
skalpeldo you know where?09:45
dabaRskalpel: um, right click, options>Skin browser, same as winamp more/less09:45
Burgundaviaskalpel, wiki.ubuntu.com/Amarok09:45
Madpilotthe "Lindenmayer" think in inkscape is some sort of fractal generator, right?09:45
skalpeldabar: it did not come up in the skin browser though09:46
dabaRBurgundavia: you maintain the wiki?09:46
skalpelburgundavia: thank you09:46
BurgundaviadabaR, along with the rest of the DocTeam09:46
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dabaRskalpel: put the skin file/folder in ~/.skins, I think that should works.09:46
dabaRno09:46
holycowhttp://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/gallery/inkscape-0.42-CVS-trace-color.png   <-- whoa, that has to be the neatest trace tool i have ever seen09:46
holycowvector trace tool even09:47
skalpeldabar: i cannot make those hidden dirs  show up in file browser09:47
Burgundaviaskalpel, ctrl-h09:47
skalpeldabar: what is the command for copying files09:47
skalpelk thank you09:47
benplautholycow: agreed09:47
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dabaRholycow: also the first one I ever saw...09:47
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holycowdabaR, ehe :) i've used variations in flash for ages, but with varying results09:48
skalpelubuntu support is awesome09:48
skalpeli could cry inside09:48
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holycow:)09:48
skalpelhehe09:48
feugan3333Hi all. Is there any reason why /var/www is owned by root and not the www-data user?09:48
skalpelthank you sir09:48
skalpelvery kind09:48
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dabaRfeugan3333: dont let www-data own anything.09:49
holycowhttp://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/  <-- anyway peek here obviously, man, there are a ton of features i have never ever seen in there09:49
holycowor properties of certain features09:49
holycowwoooooooow09:49
wolverianfeugan3333, if an attacker gets access to the www-data user, he could overwrite those files09:49
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holycowsomeone has had their thinking cap on, who knew vector illustration could actually be cool?09:49
cascocan anyone help? need a p2p program for linux, amule aint working.09:50
Madpilotfeugan3333: you can always chown your www file - but this is probably NOT recommended for an actual server09:50
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dabaRfeugan3333: he is not to own anything, cause he can be compromised, whatever wahtever, bla bla,. just make the files under /var/www readable to all, folders read+exec to all09:50
wolveriancasco, nicotine is a pretty nice soulseek client09:50
Madpilotmy Apache install is strictly localhost only...09:50
holycowthey should like patent all these new features, i'd like to see adobe come crying to the table09:50
feugan3333dataR: I want to create a log from a cgi executable and need a place to where apache can create files09:50
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dabaRfeugan3333: ask on #debian, I dont think you can get an answer for that here, but, please try...09:51
cascois that in the synaptic package manager?09:51
bob2don't point people at #debian09:51
benplautTomcat_: are you installing the DEB on that website to .42?09:51
bob2feugan3333: why doesn't the executable just produce the log itself?09:51
Madpilotcasco: you mean inkscape? yes it is09:51
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snowmannhi09:51
cascobrb09:52
Madpilotfeugan3333: there is an apache channel as well09:52
orange_hey folks09:52
benplauthello09:52
Madpilothi09:52
orange_i'm locked out of my display09:52
dabaRits an issue that isnt distro specific, but, ya, I guess that was stupid.09:52
orange_it's rejecting my password, and i know it's correct09:52
orange_any help?09:52
benplautyeah09:52
vinboyhi guys09:52
benplauthappens occasionally09:52
feugan3333bob2: the execubable is creating the file itself, but the cgi script does not run. Permission problems I presume.09:52
vinboyhow do I change my default background color09:52
benplautpress ctrl+alt+backspace to kill X09:52
orange_i know how to kill X, i just don't want to :/09:53
feugan3333Madpilot: I don't think its a apache problem.09:53
benplautno way around it that i've found09:53
orange_damn09:53
orange_alright, thanks09:53
benplauthappens somewhere around once a month, and no clue why09:53
orange_i've never had it happen before09:53
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skalpelburgundavia: after i install the amarok package where do i find it in my gnome menu?09:54
Imsdleim having trouble setting quasar09:54
orange_good thing for irssi, heh09:54
bob2it won't appear in the gnome menu09:54
Imsdle^Xroot@melissa:/opt/firebird # sudo /opt/quasar/bin/quasar_setup09:54
ImsdleSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed09:54
ImsdleSegmentation fault09:54
Burgundaviaskallen, should be under sound&video09:54
orange_i'm off to restart X then.  thanks09:54
bob2Imsdle: don't login as root, of course09:54
Tomcat_benplaut: Nah, I just installed the Ubuntu package via synaptic.09:54
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dabaRnight. vinboy SYstem>Prefs>Desktop bg/.09:54
bob2Imsdle: sudo /opt/quasar/bin/quasar_setup, as your regular user09:54
benplautTomcat_: old, but it works :(09:54
Imsdleoh thanks bob209:54
Madpilotseriously cool: http://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/gallery/inkscape-0.41-CVS-linux-tiles1.png09:55
bob2if you're logging in as root, you've done something wrong09:55
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benplauthmm09:55
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benplauti notice the "PLEASE PLEASE" has been taken out from "DO NOT USE BREEZY YET"  ;)09:56
Burgundaviabenplaut, space requirements09:56
benplautoh09:56
Burgundavianeeded to fit the backports stuff in09:56
Madpilotthey had to squeeze the 'firefox is busted' notice iin there somewhere09:56
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benplautand how to fix it...09:57
Madpilothow to fix Firefox: www.opera.com/download09:57
Madpilot;)09:57
BurgundaviaMadpilot, please don't recommend non-free software here09:58
Tomcat_benplaut: I have never seen Inkscape, but it looks awesome... much better than GIMP for drawing. Even that old version. ;)09:58
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MadpilotBurgundavia: <insert rude noise here> ;)09:58
BurgundaviaMadpilot, your my brother, I can beat you up all I want09:59
MadpilotTomcat_: inkscape & gimp are for different things.09:59
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Tomcat_Yeah, I see that. :)09:59
Tomcat_One can do Vector Graphics in GIMP too though.09:59
ubuntu_dellhi there09:59
Tomcat_But it's much worse to use.09:59
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melodiehello all :)09:59
benplautBurgundavia, Madpilot: for real? :S09:59
holycowtomcat, also gimp is very very powerfull, photoshop is peculiar in the sense that because ever yone uses it, to learn gimp you need to 'deprogram' your self10:00
holycowit took me two days to actually wrap my mind around having basically the exact same ui, with different shortcuts10:00
Madpilotbenplaut: yeah, we're brothers. Burgundavia converted me to Ubuntu10:00
Tomcat_holycow: Yeah I've noticed that. :( Used Photoshop for ages.10:00
benplautaaahhh10:00
benplautinteresting10:00
cascook, ive installed nicotine, but cant connect, invalid password10:00
casco(i obviously invented one not knowing what the heck)10:00
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holycowTomcat_, i think what i found is that gimp is probably TOO CLOSE to pshop for ui, so people are tricked subconciously to expect everything in the same spot10:01
MadpilotI've had the same problem, GIMP != Photoshop - and I've spent five years learning Photoshop, that's the problem10:01
melodiedo someone know a command in order to know how much RAM and CPU one application uses ?10:01
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holycowexcept its not, and i think the gimp ui is now better than ps ... for me anyway10:01
blenergetichello10:01
Madpilotholycow: exactly my problem - I keep hitting the PS keys in GIMP...10:01
holycowMadpilot, right i have greater than 10 years of ps10:01
Burgundaviabenplaut, I do development work in Ubuntu. Madpilot just produces hot air and enjoys not being on XP anymore10:01
benplautdoesn't gimpshop fix that?10:01
blenergeticI'm interested in dual booting Ubuntu linux with Winblowz10:01
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cascowolverian, you suggested nicotine, right?10:01
Tomcat_holycow: I don't have the problem of finding stuff, rather that it's just different in its actions... like that selected areas can be moved without selecting a special tool and stuff.10:01
benplauthehe... yup, that works :P10:01
wolveriancasco, yeah10:02
nJesshow do i screenshot in KDE?10:02
nJessi can't remember for the life of me10:02
Tomcat_nJess: PrintScreen key?10:02
benplautnJess: press printscreen?10:02
cascowolverian, so what about the password thingy?10:02
nJessthat works?10:02
MadpilotBurgundavia: no beer for you next time you're over, boy...10:02
holycowbenplaut, partly, but gimpshop is worse for me, it maps like 65% to ps, so your still screwed for mising features, or features not in pshop (yes gimp does things ps doesnt)10:02
benplautahh10:02
melodiemy gui is blocked and I'd like to avoid killing this soft before I know what it uses...10:02
benplauti wouldn't know... never used it :P10:02
holycowTomcat_, yeah, took a while to learn some of the nuance sthere too10:02
wolveriancasco, just put something there you will remember. it'll register the account on the first use10:03
MadpilotI've done a little bit of tweaking of gimp's shortcuts, toward PS, but mostly I"m trying to learn the gimp...10:03
cascowolverian, wierd, i tried it, and it was an "invalid password"10:03
melodienobody knows a way ?10:03
wolveriancasco, then your username is taken10:03
holycowMadpilot, i haveto admit, that i absolutely HAVETO have the zoom and wand shortcuts like ps10:03
Tomcat_But I've tried some vector graphics stuff in GIMP, and it worked... but it was still awkward to use... whereas inkscape feels quite easy.10:03
nJessyeah10:03
holycoweverything else i've gotten used to :)10:03
nJessprintscreen doesn't work10:03
salilhey people... can anyone tell me.. the content of /etc/hosts file..10:03
cascowolverian, ok, thanx, i'll see what i can do10:04
salili accidently delete them10:04
holycowbut zoom? wand? no way, i cant get on without the ps shortcuts10:04
holycowits very weird10:04
nJessbenplaut, didn't work10:04
Madpilotholycow: I thought it was odd that gimp doesn't even have the zoom mapped to a key by default...10:04
blenergeticoui I'll stick with #ubuntu-nun then 0_010:04
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holycowMadpilot, *nod*10:04
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Madpilot!dualboot10:05
ubotuhmm... dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo10:05
Madpilotblenergetic: see the URL that ubotu just posted, for dual booting info10:05
vinboywhat does Ubuntu uses? ALSA, OSS or eSOUND?10:05
blenergeticMadpilot, ok10:05
blenergeticncie bot :)10:05
blenergetic!hello10:05
melodiesalil: I can tell you, but I'll have to kill one appli and go back to graphic interface first10:05
ubotublenergetic: I don't know, could you explain it?10:05
Burgundaviavinboy, Hoary uses esd10:05
blenergeticlol10:05
blenergetic!help10:05
Burgundaviavinboy, the new development version uses esd with alsa dmix, which solves the esd issue with non-esd applications10:05
blenergetichow sophisticated10:05
melodieif you are ok to wait a few minutes...10:06
vinboyBurgundavia, oh ic. kool10:06
melodiesee you :)10:06
melodiequit10:06
salilcan't you just see it..??10:06
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Rydekullsalil: if you're only using ipv4 this should do: 127.0.0.1 <name of machine> localhost10:06
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m0ns00nHey10:06
orangerangewhat's a good console/commandline IRC/chat client for newbies?10:06
m0ns00nAny repositories for ubunut I don't have, I have: universe, multiverse, backports, extras, main, restricted10:07
salilwhat is that <name of machine>..?10:07
parabolizeorangerange, irssi10:07
Tomcat_I find irssi to be not too bad.10:07
salilwhat do i put there..?10:07
Rydekullsalil: your name of your machine?10:07
m0ns00nneed avidemux or transcode10:07
salilcomputer's name..??10:07
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Tomcat_But newbies doesn't match with commandline :)10:07
blenergetichmm... lets test this10:07
Rydekullsalil: yes10:07
m0ns00nbut I can't find any packages10:07
Rydekullsalil: its hostname10:07
blenergeticblender can be found at www.blender3d.org10:07
blenergeticwhere can i find blender?10:07
salilah ha..10:07
salilthanks..10:07
Rydekullsalil: type hostname in the console and you'll see10:07
blenergeticaww didn't work ;)10:07
orangerangeoh, i think i already have irssi installed.10:07
saliland.. what are those.. repositories10:07
parabolizeblenergetic, sudo apt-get install blender10:07
blenergeticparabolize, no I was testing the bot :P10:08
Madpilotblenergetic: to talk to ubotu you can use /msg10:08
parabolizeO10:08
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blenergeticsays it learns by people saying "x can be found at xxx.org"10:08
blenergeticaah10:08
orangerangei don't know how to connect to ubuntu via irssi. what should i write? I wrote "/connect irc.freenode.net" then "/join ubuntu" but i'm getting error messages.10:08
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Nermal /server irc.freenode.net10:08
Nermal /join #ubuntu10:08
Madpilotubotu blender is a 3d program that can be found at http://www.blender3d.org10:08
ubotuokay, Madpilot10:08
Nermalorangerange, you need the #10:09
orangerangeyes10:09
hyphenatedorangerange: you understand that there aren't any console IRC clients that are appropriate for newbies, don't you?10:09
RydekullNermal: both /connect and /server works mind you :)10:09
Nermalhyphenated, irssi is a piece of piss10:09
RydekullNermal: preferably he uses /connect10:09
Madpilotblenergetic: that's how you get ubotu to remember stuff - "ubotu <foo> is <bar>"10:09
Nermalautomatically creates new windows /etc10:09
blenergeticMadpilot, ok10:09
RydekullNermal: all is after how you've got it tweaked10:09
orangerangehyphenated, in that case, i'll stick with xchat.10:09
hyphenatedorangerange: don't be afraid to try other ones, but just keep in mind they aren't really suited for people that want a simpler interface10:10
orangerangeusing xchat, is there a simple "switch/button" where i can pause/resume the logging/recording of the chatroom conversation?10:10
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Rydekullhmm, not that I think irssi is hard to learn, you just need to know how to look for help :)10:10
nJessorangerange, no10:10
hyphenatedRydekull: /help ;-)10:11
Rydekullhyphenated: and irssi.org :)10:11
Rydekullhyphenated: and you're good to go :)10:11
orangerangewhy is irssi asking me for a password? I don't need a password to enter ubuntu chatroom, do I?10:11
orangerangein synaptic, i'm getting this message: It is not possible to upgrade all packages.10:12
orangerangeThis means that besides the actual upgrade of the packages some further action (such as installing or removing packages) is required. Please use Synaptic "Smart Upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" to fix the situation.10:12
Nermalorangerange, so use dist-upgrade10:12
salilhey... i want to try the blender 3d program.. but i don't know which one to download..10:12
Nermalit tells you what to do ffs10:12
Rydekullorangerange: type /quit, type irssi, type /connect irc.freenode.net, type /join #Ubuntu and you're in :)10:12
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orangerange"The following packages are not upgraded, acroread    wesnoth     wesnoth-data10:12
=== Nermal ignores
yongUbuntu need to consolidate the information. Wiki, Webforum, IRC, mailing list, blog, ... it looks like a data ocean.10:12
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Nermalyah :)10:13
skalpelthe funny thing is i went to all that trouble to install amarok, and when i got it to work under gnome it turned hideous to me and i do not want it anymore10:13
hyphenatedyong: ok, put it all in the Wiki for us ;-)10:13
parabolizesalil, :) I just said that... sudo apt-get install blender10:13
Nermalinfo blender10:13
Nermal!info blender10:13
skalpelcan someone recommend a good window manager to go with ubuntu?10:13
ubotublender: (Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 2.36-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 3716 kB, Installed size: 9568 kB10:13
Tomcat_yong: I find it very much consolidated... much better than for Debian.10:13
Nermalsalil, sudo apt-get install blender :)10:13
orangerange17:14 !irc.freenode.net *** Checking ident10:13
orangerange17:14 -!- Irssi: Not connected to server10:13
salilcan you please tell me.. what is that sudo thing..?10:13
saliland also apt-get.. and all that..?10:13
Tomcat_yong: In other distros, you have to check hundreds of mailing lists, usenet groups, forums, personal homepages, whatever, through Google... no central place.10:13
Nermalsalil, executes the command as super user (root)10:13
salilwhere can i get those documentations..?10:13
salilooh10:14
orangerangeirssi said "closing link. not the right password." what's up?10:14
Nermalsalil, apt-get in the tool used to install software in ubuntu10:14
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Tomcat_While Ubuntu is about wiki.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org10:14
Tomcat_(+ some googling ;))10:14
Nermalsalil, man apt-get and man sudo for information10:14
yongTomcat, I feel it's difficult to find a specific issue on this site.10:14
salilokay10:14
Nermalyou can use apt-cache search <package> to find a package too10:14
salilmy internet in ubuntu is not working.. so i'm using another PC..10:14
salilcan anyone tell me.. how to configure my internet in UBUNTU10:15
gandlafHi10:15
Tomcat_yong: I usually search the wiki, then the forums, then Google, and if I couldn't find an issue there, there's usually nobody who ever had it. :o10:15
Nermalsalil, depends on what your connection is10:15
yongTomcat, really?10:15
blenergetic!help10:15
konkiAUDIO HELP!! ubuntu mp3 ripper/player?? whats the best?? any comments??10:15
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blenergetichrmm I think ubotu is borked :(10:15
Nermalkonki, grip ?10:15
orangerangeI got a pdf from http://www.hotspot.ne.jp/en/servicearea/pdf/en_allmap.pdf. I'm having problems accessing it. It's taking up all CPU. Whats' wrong?10:15
Nermalsoundjuicer?10:15
salilmy connection is.. 56K.. i have an external modem..10:15
Nermal!info soundjuicer10:16
Tomcat_yong: Are the mailing lists and blogs really that helpful? :o10:16
skalpelcan someone tell me how to switch from gnome to xfce?10:16
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orangerangeirssi is asking for my password. help10:16
blenergeticyeah ubotu is borked ;(10:16
Nermalsalil, hmm.. then you should just be able to plug it in and then go to the network setup in gnome10:16
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salilyes.. i did all that.. but.. the modem does not respond properly..10:16
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bob2orangerange: when asking questions like that, you need to be a lot more specific10:17
konkiNermal, what about LAME/MPlayer??10:17
saliland when the modem does respond.. there's no data exchange10:17
Madpilot!help10:17
Nermalkonki, well. you can use that10:17
bob2orangerange: how is irssi asking for a password?  what did you do to get it to do that?10:17
Nermalnot as easy though10:17
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Nermaland grip has cddb support10:17
gandlafCan anyone help me ? I do first time ubundu installation. and now i have a serious problem. i dont know the root password10:17
Nermalgandlaf, sigh.. read.. same as user password10:17
Nermalno root account on ubuntu10:17
Nermaluse sudo10:17
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skalpelhi nermel10:18
gandlafrealay10:18
konkiNermal, whats so good about grip?? never heard of it.. does it support mp3pro??10:18
Nermalkonki, dunno.. install and find out10:18
melodiehello, is there still someone who wants a /etc/hosts file content ?10:18
salilme me..10:18
skalpelwhat is grip?10:18
salilyea.. i wanted that..10:18
melodieok10:18
Nermal!info grip10:18
ubotugrip: (GNOME-based CD-player/ripper/encoder), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 3.2.0-3ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 429 kB, Installed size: 1204 kB10:18
melodiesalil:10:18
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salilyes.. mdlodie10:18
melodiemy name machine is papillon10:18
orangerangecan anybody help me use irssi to access ubuntu chatroom. The errors i got are found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/78810:18
salilsorry10:18
salilmelodie10:18
melodieso it appears in the content10:18
skalpelhow do i change my hostname?10:18
yongTomcat, I have a problem about TOSHIBA TE2000 laptop which cannot restart from Linux - when it restarts, it fall asleep ;) so I have to press the power button. It is too boring when switch to Windows. can you search this ?10:18
melodieso you will have to replace it10:19
Nermalskallen, hostname <hostname>10:19
orangerangebob2, please refer to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/78810:19
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skalpelnermal: that has not worked for me, for some reason.10:19
melodiewith the name of your own machine10:19
melodieok ?10:19
skalpelit stayed 'ubuntu'10:19
salilno.. but i want the format in which to put.. the ip add. hostname and all that..10:19
yonilcould some1 explain why everytime i open the syntaptic upgrade tool (the red icon at top), it starts by telling me "the following packages will not be upgraded: mozilla-firefox ... mozilla-firefox-gnome support" ?10:19
melodieI suppose I cannot flood here10:20
konkiNermal, i just need the smallest mp3 files i can rip.. that all! ok anyways thanks.. gotta do some research about grip..10:20
bob2orangerange: that looks like you're trying to do something oper-related10:20
orangerangeAnybody with a spare 20 seconds. Please try opening the PDF at http://www.hotspot.ne.jp/en/servicearea/pdf/en_allmap.pdf. I'm having problems accessing it. It's taking up all CPU. Whats' wrong?10:20
Nermalyonil, because you need to do a dist-upgrade10:20
Nermalwhich will install additional packages10:20
orangerangebob2, oper? operator?10:20
melodiesalil: do you want to connect #meets on the same irc chan to make it fast ?10:20
Nermalor a "smart upgrade" in synaptic apparently10:20
salilsure.10:20
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salilhow to do that..??10:20
Nermalmorning beezly10:20
yonilNermal, hmmm how do i do that ?10:20
konkiNermal, does grip support SPM or apt-get??10:21
Nermalyonil, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:21
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Nermalor there must be a smart upgrade option in synaptic.. I dunno. I've never used it10:21
Nermalkonki, I dunno10:21
yonilNermal, that sounds like something that can brake a computer ;P (i dont use synaptic btw)10:21
Nermalkonki, how would grip support apt-get ?10:21
Nermalyonil, it won't if your on hoary10:21
Nermalit will tell you what new packages need to be installed10:21
Nermalprobably not many10:22
yonilok thanks10:22
Nermalyou're*10:22
konkiNermal, go to the commandline/terminal and type the command 'apt-get' install grip if it would work...10:22
melodiesalil: as soon as you're connected on #meets I'll past the file10:23
Nermalkonki, sure.. that's why the bot found it10:23
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Nermalyou'll need universe enabled10:23
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melodieplse don't make it too long cause I've plenty to do :)10:23
salilhow do i connect to #meets..??10:23
Nermalsalil, /join #meets ?10:23
sulkdofftopic, but.. does anyone know of a really good hosting company that offers dedicated servers?10:23
Nermalsulkd, rackspace10:23
melodiesame as #ubuntu10:23
melodieon the same chan10:24
konkiNermal, ok thanks.. am on the grip website, very nice.. later10:24
Nermalsulkd, not the cheapest mind10:24
Nermalkonki, :)10:24
melodieirc.freenode.net 666710:24
sulkdNermal, thanks I'll check them out10:24
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ubuntu_dell"/j #meets" without quote10:24
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melodiewith Xchat or with irssi or whatsoever10:24
skalpeljon@ubuntu:~$ sudo hostname klaus10:24
skalpelPassword:10:24
skalpeljon@ubuntu:~$10:24
skalpelhow come it does not change instantly?10:24
Nermalskallen, maybe you need to log out and back in10:24
Nermalskalpel, just edit /etc/hostname10:25
skalpelok10:25
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sulkdNermal, you are hosted by rackspace?10:27
=== sulkd currently hosted by a company incapable of walking into a server room and rebooting a PC
Burgundaviasulkd, they may not do it for legal reasons10:28
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yonilyay firefox upgraded from 1.0.2 to 1.0.6 :P10:28
anacronhurray10:29
Burgundaviayonil, in terms of security, it went from .4 to .610:29
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anacrondid it make world better place to live?10:29
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root__Can anyone tell me why ubuntu hangs right after the graphical server starts. I just installed.10:30
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nJessquestion, building from source improves system performance, yes?10:31
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nJessor rather10:31
nJesssoftware performance10:32
BurgundavianJess, it might10:32
liraznJess, yes10:32
Burgundaviaseriously, the effort is not worth it10:32
lirazamen10:32
nJessBurgundavia, its for fun10:32
nJesslinux is for fun, for me10:32
nJess:D10:32
root__Can anyone tell me why ubuntu hangs right after the graphical server starts. I just installed.10:32
Burgundaviaroot__, which version did you install?10:32
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abhayksroot_: which version ?10:32
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znhHm.. anyone knows why echo -e \a does not do his job?10:33
root__Hmm, hold on, it might say it on the disk.10:33
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root__4.1010:33
sulkdznh, echo -e \\a10:33
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znhsulkd: ah D'oh, thanks :)10:34
root__abhayks: 4.1010:34
znhsulkd: do you know also how to make multipile beeps?10:34
syndroot__, why not 5.04?10:34
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sulkdznh, while :; do echo -e \\a; done ? :P10:35
root__synd: I have no idea, this if my first time on this distro.10:35
znhsulkd: lol :D10:35
abhayksroot_: please tell more about the machine configuration and the xorg.conf file10:35
syndroot__, 5.04 is the latest stable release. 4.10 is stable as well. neither have to do with why your xorg isnt working10:35
znhsulkd: then it would beep continuesly, I would like to have it beep about 5 times10:35
syndroot__, just wondering why10:35
root__synd: ah, okay.10:36
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root__I'll be back..10:36
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znhanyone noticed 'Read errors' in gaim?10:39
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syndznh, which vers?10:40
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znhsynd: momemt will check, but it's diffenetly the newest10:40
synd2.10?10:40
holycowas a tangent of linkage off of the inkscape release, looks like firefox will be getting full svg supprt10:40
holycownot that would be really neat10:40
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znhsynd: Gaim 1.3.110:40
simon_morning folks10:41
holycowcould enable some really neat apps to be deployed on the browser10:41
holycowsay something like planner, but web based10:41
holycowsweet10:41
znhsimon_: morning10:41
simon_Anyone help me with a sound problem plz ?10:41
Madpilotcool, the more browsers that support svg, the better. Opera 8 already does10:41
holycowMadpilot, it does?10:41
syndznh, did you get if off the repos?10:41
holycowoh neat, i should looksee :)10:42
znhsynd: Yes i did10:42
ph3rI'm back. root__ .. I managed to get a graphical server up, but it gave me some trouble with "loading the theme 'human'".. Any it said my greeter crashed... Sorry for the lame newbie questions. I am just looking for some quick help.10:42
vinboywhen will the next new kernel be out?10:42
vinboyi can't wait to upgrade my kernel10:42
Madpilotholycow: yup. openclipart.org is suddenly a lot easier to browse!10:42
holycowph3r, give us more info on how you installed ubuntu and how far you got10:42
Tomcat_vinboy: In October10:42
Tomcat_vinboy: Or you mean a kernel.org Kernel?10:43
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pippijnhi all10:43
simon_My souncard is correctly recognized in device manager , and i have tried the sound fix on the ubuntu guide pages , but still silent . ANyone any ideas ?10:43
ph3rholycow: it crashed during an update after install.10:43
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holycowph3r, so it was working after install?10:43
pippijncan someone look at http://xinutec.mine.nu?10:43
pippijnif it works10:43
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Tomcat_No connection, pippijn.10:44
pippijnhm10:44
pippijnweird10:44
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pippijnI don't see anything in my firewall log either10:44
holycowoh lookee, opera has an ubuntu deb10:44
Madpilotpippijn: not connecting that I can see...10:44
holycowhow sweet!10:44
holycow:)10:44
GGfofowhere the apt-get sources.list located i need to add some other source so i can get wine ??10:44
pippijndarn10:44
ph3rholycow: Somewhat, I managed to get x server running, but it doesn't seem to want to run right? How can I be shure I installed correctly?10:44
konki?? do i need to resart my system after installing with SPM???10:45
holycowph3r, well, by going into terminal and doing sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist upgrade first10:45
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Madpilotholycow: ubuntu packages for so many *nix branches - but the Ubuntu one came in quickly!10:45
konkihow come nothing shows on my appz??10:45
holycowand making sure the update is successfull10:45
holycowif update is successfull fully we can debug from there10:45
holycowdo alt / f1, login as your self an dist upgrade first pleaze10:45
Tomcat_pippijn: Check if the IP of xinutec.mine.nu matches yours.10:46
holycowMadpilot, i noticed that, very cool indeed10:46
GGfofowhere is the sources.list located?10:46
pippijnTomcat_: okay10:46
Tomcat_xinutec.mine.nu has address 172.177.17.2710:46
ph3rholycow: Thank you10:46
ph3rapt-get update10:46
ph3r                 && sudo apt-get dist upgrade first10:46
ph3ropps.10:46
pippijncorrect10:46
pippijnthat's mine10:46
Tomcat_Yeah, I see it.10:46
Tomcat_Weird.10:46
Tomcat_Maybe mine.nu is blocking it?10:47
freewoodyHow do I bypass a local transparent proxy server ?10:47
Tomcat_I doubt it, but maybe you did some setting wrong.10:47
pippijnTomcat_: don't think so ;)10:47
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holycow*wooo*10:47
holycowopera loads really fast on linux too10:47
holycowwow10:47
holycowheh :)10:47
Nameeateropera is the best browser :)10:47
IceDC571opera loads fast on everything10:48
IceDC571dillo is still the fastest i think10:48
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IceDC571but it doesnt render most webpages correctly10:48
freewoodyHow do I install opera ?10:48
Madpilotbest thing about opera for this XP refugee is that I could just plug my bookmarks file in seemlessly10:48
holycowit's really impressive how fast it is indeed10:49
holycowfreewoody, download opear deb from opera.com10:49
Madpilotfreewoody: www.opera.com/download - get the Ubuntu .deb10:49
pippijnmaybe I did something wrong with my firewall10:49
holycowthen do dpkg -i operapackage.deb from the dir you downloaded it to10:49
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Madpilotholycow: beat me to the next part! ;)10:49
pippijnTomcat_: I am forwarding that port from this computer to the webserver10:49
holycowMadpilot, indeedy, i can view svg!10:49
holycowwoot!10:49
holycowneato!10:49
holycowhaha10:49
freewoodyDoes somebody here know how I bypass a proxy server ?10:49
Madpilotvery cool (long) tour of Opera 8's features: http://operalover.tntluoma.com/8/10:50
pippijnand that webserver wants to use port 33184 on my NAT10:50
pippijnevery time someone wants to connect10:50
Tomcat_pippijn: Well... no idea to help you there right now, check your settings then.10:50
simon_is there a ubuntu support forum ?10:51
pippijnI don't understand why that server wants to connect to my NAT10:51
Tomcat_simon_: wiki.ubuntu.com has support, and there's ubuntuforums.org10:51
pippijnon some high port10:51
simon_ty TC10:51
freewoodydoes someone has a iptables script for pc with a single nic card which is connected directly to a LAN10:51
Tomcat_simon_: And we're doing support here... I'm pretty sure you'll get help in any of those places.10:52
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pippijnfreewoody: of course... but it won't help you because it is made for my needs10:52
pippijnyou have to do your own firewall script10:52
pippijnfreewoody: maybe look at some autogenerated script10:53
lindsayHello, I recently just installed kubuntu but I dont have all the packages that I thought came with KDE such as kdevelop, kwrite.. I tried apt-get and aptitude search but those packages dont exist, can someone tell me how I can get all those KDE goodies?10:53
freewoodyLike ?10:53
rob^freewoody, 1. why do you need a firewall 2. use firestarter10:53
pippijnfreewoody: firestarter and fwbuilder generate scripts10:53
pippijnand kmyfirewall too but 1) it is KDE and 2) it's not in ubuntu repos10:53
pippijnso you would need to build that yourself10:53
pippijnanyways, as rob^ said, use firestarter10:54
pippijnit makes life easier10:54
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freewoodyWhich is the best site to learn about Iptables ?10:54
rob^freewoody, dont10:54
rob^you dont need to10:54
freewoodywhy ?10:54
freewoodyRegarding firestarter, I just apt-get install firestarter to install it ?10:54
rob^because you can use Firestarter for one thing10:54
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rob^and its too hard to learn for something you will hardly use10:55
lindsaycan anyone help me? or not?10:55
znhlindsay: are you that guy from mean girls ?10:55
znh*girl10:55
pippijnfreewoody: http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//packet-filtering-HOWTO.html10:55
simon_Anyone have an idea why my seemingly recognised and installed onboard SIS sound isnt working plz ?10:56
lindsaynegative :P10:56
znhlindsay: glad10:56
lindsayheh10:56
pippijnlindsay: you need to add some things to /etc/apt/sources.list10:57
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pippijnlindsay: I can send you mine in which every ubuntu repo is included10:57
nJessrouter locked up :/10:57
freewoodyMy harddisk is getting full10:57
freewoodyHow do I free up some space ?10:57
nJessdelete old files10:58
Madpilotdelete your pron collection? ;)10:58
freewoodyWell besides that ?10:58
nJesswell10:58
Madpilot... sorry ...10:58
freewoodybesides that10:58
Nermalfreewoody, delete stuff in /var/cache/apt/archive/10:58
nJessrm -rf *10:58
lindsayI just got some thanks :)10:58
nJess:P10:58
Nermalthat's all the .debs you've downloaded10:58
pippijnok10:58
MadpilotnJess: even less funny than my suggestion...10:58
nJessits funny if he does it10:59
Madpilotwell, for us, maybe... :p  "sudo rm -rf *" would be funnier10:59
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Nameeatersudo apt-get clean11:00
Nameeater?11:00
MadpilotI know "-r" is recursive - is "f" for 'just do it, don't ask questions'?11:00
Nameeaterforce11:00
pippijnMadpilot: it means "go on even if errors occur"11:00
Nameeaterignore nonexistent files, never prompt11:00
Madpilotright, so it'll delete *everything*... evil...11:01
pippijnyes11:01
pippijnsudo rm -rf /11:01
pippijnthat will delete everything11:01
bca_Hi, i am having some trouble getting Java installed, where can I get some help?11:01
znhpippijn: that's rude :P11:01
nJesshey11:01
nJessafter i have resolved the build deps11:01
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pippijn;)11:01
pippijnI did that twice11:01
pippijnfor fun11:02
nJesswould apt-get -b source xchat instill the program after it is compiled?11:02
pippijnbecause I wanted to reinstall anyways11:02
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pippijnmy system stayed up for quite long11:02
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pippijnafter some time then it started complaining about sound files not being found so Gaim could not tell me that someone has logged on11:02
daveshi all :)11:02
pippijnhi daves11:02
znhhi daves11:03
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lapalominojoin #ubuntu-de11:04
pippijnlapalomino: because?11:05
znhpippijn: omg he's advertising11:05
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Madpilotlapalomino: append a / to that and it'll work...11:05
pippijnhehe11:05
pippijn /join #ubuntu-de11:06
pippijnMadpilot: it's prepend if that word exists ;)11:06
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Madpilotpippijn: you're right - and it is a word. 'append' would be 'add after'...11:07
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St0n3-C0ldo anybody know where do I put new layout for keyboard?11:07
St0n3-C0lI mean I want to add another layout11:07
pippijnyeah11:07
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St0n3-C0lplease tel11:07
St0n3-C0ltell*11:07
pippijnSt0n3-C0l: in X?11:08
St0n3-C0lyep11:08
pippijnwhat Desktop Environment?11:08
znh~[-_-] ~11:08
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pippijngnome?11:08
znhpippijn: sorry that I interupt you, but it has to be configured in the X config, that has nothing todo with the WM11:08
pippijnznh: he wants to _add_ one11:08
pippijnnot replace it11:09
znhhm11:09
pippijnin the X config you put the default one11:09
Zukerohi11:09
pippijnbut if you want to add one you have to use some DE tool11:09
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St0n3-C0lgnome piipijn11:10
Madpilothmmm... Ubuntu's default dictionary seems to have stopped working...11:10
pippijnSt0n3-C0l: then:11:10
Madpilotdoes it connect to something on the web for a database?11:10
pippijnSystem -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts11:10
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St0n3-C0lI don't want to change11:10
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St0n3-C0lI want to add11:10
pippijnwell there you go11:10
St0n3-C0lwhen I click on Add it gives me many layouts11:10
St0n3-C0li want to add there my own :s11:11
St0n3-C0lThats Urdu layout11:11
pippijnyou want to create one?11:11
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Zukeroanyone here uses ubuntu with enlightenment (E16) ?11:11
St0n3-C0lyeah11:12
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St0n3-C0lI've a file of layout11:12
pippijnhm11:12
pippijnwait...11:12
syndZukero, yes, some do11:12
St0n3-C0loka11:12
Zukerobecause11:12
syndZukero, is there a specific problem?11:12
Zukeroyeah11:12
daveshow do you set things up so as to see all apps on the panel (but having them on differnet vertual desktops ?11:12
pippijnSt0n3-C0l: /usr/share/keymaps/i38611:12
Zukeroit doesn't generate the gnome and epplets menu11:12
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pippijnSt0n3-C0l: that is where all keymaps are11:13
Zukeroit does nicely under debian11:13
Zukerobut11:13
St0n3-C0lThanks :)11:13
Zukerothe gnome menus under debian and ubuntu are a little different11:13
Zukeroso maybe11:13
ZukeroE cannot find it11:13
norhted#hacks11:14
Zukeroi was wondering if someone managed to have these menus (especially the gnome one)11:14
syndnorhted, #hacks?11:14
norhted:) typo11:14
davesCan anyone point m to the direction of find out how to have the pc powerdown after the OS has powered down ?11:14
poningruZukero: what are you trying to do?11:15
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poningruis it in the application menu or the places/system menu?11:16
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StinkywrixSheesh, Ubuntu is so much better then Knoppix.11:16
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Zukeroponingru : I just want to have the Gnome menu in E1611:17
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Zukeroboth11:17
Zukerobut rather the application11:17
pippijnwhere is iproute?11:17
Zukerothe one that is normally automaticalyy generated by E11:17
poningru!smeg11:17
ubotusomebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.11:17
pippijnI mean the binary... I installed the package11:17
poningruZukero: have you looked into that?11:18
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Zukerothat's for gnome11:18
Zukeroi need smthg for E11:18
poningruok now clue sorry11:18
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poningruerr no*11:18
pippijnZukero: apt-get install menu11:18
pippijnZukero: when that is installed do update-menus as root11:19
pippijnand then update-menus.real11:19
znhheh funny, large files with the extentsion .jpg but they are at hisself mp3 are being automaticly downloaded by firefox11:19
Zukeropippijn : that's for E ?11:19
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pippijnZukero: it's for everything that is supported by ubuntu11:19
pippijnalso windowmaker11:19
pippijnI use it for that11:19
Zukerohmm11:19
poningruznh: did you look under download?11:20
Zukerook i'll try it11:20
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poningruthere should be a list of filetypes that firefox does automatic action for11:20
znhponingru: does not show up, only a jpg box in the firefox window (like it can't be found, but it's being downloaded)11:20
pippijnZukero: actually only use the first one11:20
pippijnupdate-menus11:20
pippijnthe .real one does not exist in ubuntu11:20
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poningruznh: I'm sorry I dont understand your question11:21
poningruwhat exactly do you want firefox to do?11:21
znhponingru: it's not a question, it's a sort of funny thing :)11:21
Burgundaviaponingru, ff should integrate into gnome and use the gnome stuff for opening files11:21
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poningruah ok11:22
znhponingru: I open a file on a webserver that has a extension .jpg (Picture), but the content of that file is something else.. but firefox handles it as a image and downloads it automaticly wich is kinda unsecure11:22
pippijndoes anyone know about NAT?11:22
znhpippijn: yes, it should be disabled :+P11:22
Zukerothx pippijn : now, I have a Debian menu under E16 in ubuntu :)11:22
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Zukeroi can now access everything I needed11:23
pippijnznh: I need it11:23
poningruoh well obviously its gonna download as a pic11:23
Burgundaviaznh, if ff passed the file onto gnome, gnome would say it was a not a jpg and barf an error up11:23
pippijnZukero: nice :)11:23
poningrubut its not gonna execute it as anything else11:23
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znhBurgundavia: that's right, but if there is some other application that can rename and execute it, would be easy11:24
poningrugotta go11:24
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Burgundaviaznh, renaming the file is not going to do much in linux11:24
YagisanG'day. Has anyone successfully installed Ubuntu PPC in either PearPC or QEMU ?11:24
Burgundaviait needs to set the execute bit and then force the system to execute it11:24
znhBurgundavia: oh yes your right in that :)11:25
nJesshow do i install .debs?11:25
znhnJess: dpkg -i packagename.dab11:25
nJessthnks11:25
znhnJess: for more information about dpkg, you might want to see the manpage by typing 'man dpkg'11:26
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nJesscrap11:27
nJessi have two packages that depend on each other to install11:27
nJesshow do i do multiple at once?11:28
YagisannJess: put them all on the same line11:28
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YagisanAnyone installed any linux PPC distros at all in either QEMU or PearPC  ??11:29
m0ns00nnot me11:29
m0ns00n:-D11:29
YagisanDamm. I can't get them installed. I want to build powerpc versions of doomsday, but I don't have a mac.11:30
syndYagisan, its been done11:30
lhb!qemu11:30
ubotuWish i knew, lhb11:30
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pippijncan someone try http://xinutec.mine.nu?11:31
nJessim replacing my precompiled software with versions i just compiled11:31
nJess:D11:31
berkesg'day11:31
Yagisansynd: What do you mean ?11:31
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berkespippijn: 40411:31
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pippijnhm :(11:32
pippijnok11:32
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berkeshow long does if usually take before new version of apps become available for ubuntu?11:32
GouramiHi all, if I restart cupsys and it exits with a status of 13, I presume there is something wrong right ?11:32
znhberkes: depends on the popularity I think ;)11:32
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berkesyesterday a new version of inkscape was released (wohoo!)11:33
anacronyahoo11:33
berkesand I'd liek to know if its worth compliing or if I just have to wait a bit more11:33
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anacrontoo bad i don't know how to use inkscape well :(11:33
anacrontoo much windows, too much freehand11:33
berkesanacron: neither did I. but its by far the best program to lean vectors11:33
berkesinkscpae is only one window. as opposed to gimp11:34
asfraIf I want to install 'mplayer-686_1.0-pre6-03ubuntu6_i386.deb' should I just type 'dpkg -i mplayer-686_1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6_i386.deb.dab' and then it's installed?11:34
znhwhat's inkscape, what can it do?11:34
Nermalasfra, aye.. with sudo11:34
sulkdgimp needs a HIG diet... badly11:34
berkesznh: http://www.inkscape.org/11:34
znhasfra: doing it via apt-get should be easier for the deps11:34
Imsdlewhen im trying to setup quasar, it is asking for a libpq.so in the /usr/lib/ director but there isn't any file. If i try to use the libpq.so.3 or the libpq.so.3.1 file they don't work11:34
Zukeroand without the .dab11:34
Zukeroasfra : and without the .dab11:34
Imsdleim using a postgresql db11:34
syndasfra, did you try apt-get install mplayer ?11:35
znhberkes: woot woot11:35
YagisanAny doomsday players here ?11:35
asfrahmm, I've downloaded the package with firefox to my desktop11:35
znhYagisan: I know the game, didn't play it last times11:35
asfradoes apt get it from the internet or my download?11:35
anacronberkes: yeah, inkscape looked wonderfull when i tested it, but i need more time11:35
znhasfra: then it's located by default in your ~/Desktop/ directory11:35
syndasfra, from the network11:35
sulkdYagisan, well, I'm one of the chosen ones that at a given moment will be given a crucial moral decision upon which the fate of the world is dependant.. so, my character may or may not trigger the end of days11:35
GouramiHi all, if I restart cupsys and it exits with a status of 13, I presume there is something wrong right ?11:36
syndasfra, from the repositories, rather11:36
berkesanacron: yup, its mostly the concept of  vector drawing taht is hard to grok11:36
syndasfra, you can do sudo dpkg -i then drag the icon of the .deb over to your console11:36
syndand it will automatically put the location of the .deb11:37
asfraok! I'll try that. Thanks :-)11:37
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Yagisanznh: I was hoping I could test out online play, as it was supposed to be fixed for linux.11:37
syndasfra, no prob.11:38
znhYagisan: you could try to put-up a local server, and connect to it via your outside ip address11:38
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raptoidselamlar.11:38
GouramiHello, where can I get a default version of cupsd.conf from ?11:38
Yagisanznh: if only I could.11:39
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znhYagisan: why can't you?11:39
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Yagisanznh: It doesn't like to run on my gateway system.11:40
znhdoes anyone know how that song is called "Lonely.. Iam so lonely, I have no body all on my own" with that extreamly high voice11:40
BurgundaviaI need an ftp that needs login to test a bug, anybody got one that I can test?11:40
Yagisanznh: It doesn't show up on the master browser11:40
znhYagisan: maybe I can help you with that, what sort of output do you get while trying to start it?11:41
treviznh: Paul Anka?11:41
znhtrevi: hm no, it's something shorts11:41
nJessmy irc-nick is on google11:41
nJessfirst three hits11:41
nJessi hate my fame11:41
nJessstupid bash11:41
znh:/11:41
nJessbash.org = devil11:41
Yagisanznh: normal output. I think it gets confused as gateway also runs as a nat box.11:41
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znhYagisan: for the best latency it should be directly connected to the internet11:42
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Yagisanznh: It should, but it can't.11:43
highvoltagedoes ubuntu support promise raid controllers with it's standard kernel?11:43
Imsdlewhen im trying to setup quasar, it is asking for a libpq.so in the /usr/lib/ director but there isn't any file. If i try to use the libpq.so.3 or the libpq.so.3.1 file they don't work11:43
znhYagisan: can you connect to it it locally?11:43
Yagisanznh: do you use ubuntu packages or complie your own ?11:43
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znhYagisan: the time I played doomsday i compiled manualy on gentoo11:43
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Yagisanznh: I'll try again in a moment. I'm syncing my repo with an update11:44
znhYagisan: aight11:44
GouramiPLEASE can someone help me, I think I have made a typo in cupsd.conf and would like to get a unmodified version11:46
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rob^tisk tisk11:46
nJessGourami, where is the file located? i'll give you my local copy11:46
rob^always make backups first11:46
pippijnGourami: copy the config, deinstall cups and purge its config then reinstall cups11:46
asfraIt says that I need to install mplayer-586 first. I can do that. But is there a way to get apt to get these packages for me? or isn't they a part of ubuntu? when I write apt-get install mplayer I get the message that the package could no be found.11:47
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pippijnGourami: that is if you can't get a copy from someone else11:47
syndasfra, you need the right repos11:47
syndasfra, you need to edit your sources.list11:47
pippijnasfra: look for debian marillat11:48
nJessasfra, try sudo apt-get install mplayer-58611:48
nJess:/11:48
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asfraok, I see. So I need to type an internet-adress where it can get the package11:48
pippijnI don't know the address but google for debian marillat11:48
nJessjust remove all the command tags11:48
pippijnnerim.net or so11:48
Speedy2asfra: You might want to use synaptic, it's a little more userfriendly11:48
nJesscomment*11:48
asfraok11:48
pippijnnJess: nerim marillat is not in sources.list by default11:49
pippijnnot even commented11:49
syndsynaptic still needs the right sources.list11:49
znhsynd: I fully agree11:49
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Gouraminjess /etc/cups11:49
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IcE-bOyhi11:50
lucianhello11:50
syndasfra:11:50
syndsudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup11:50
syndsudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:50
pippijnhi IcE-bOy11:50
znhsudo cat /dev/input/mice11:50
IcE-bOyi have touch /etc/init.d with update-rc.d and .. i have change the order of boot and other things, how can i recover it ?11:50
syndasfra: that should bring up your current sources.list11:50
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IcE-bOyhi picole11:51
IcE-bOyhi pippijn11:51
IcE-bOy:)11:51
syndand will have backed up your old one, asfra11:51
GouraminJess: u get that ?11:51
nJessyup11:51
nJessuploading now11:51
Gouramigr8 thanks11:51
luciani can see everybody has something to ask about11:51
IcE-bOynobody knows how to recover /etc/init.d ?11:52
Gouraminot too sure what is wrong but cypsys restart gives me an error11:52
znhlucian: that's also a reason why IRC exists11:52
syndGourami, always backup your .conf files before altering them11:52
lucianyes, but there are to many questions to answer11:53
Gouramisynd: yeah will do11:53
IcE-bOyanybody can send me a .tar.gz from his /etc/rc* ? (from hoary)11:53
znhlucian: hmm, I find that all questions that have been already answered should be saved on some html page11:53
skalpelwhat should i do if no browser gets loaded when i click on the firefox icon in my gnomebar?11:53
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znhlucian: then we could handle the many load, because everyone is reading that page instead of asking on IRC (again)11:54
hyphenatedskalpel: open a shell and type in 'killall firefox-bin'11:54
GouraminJess: tell me when ure done ok11:54
hyphenatedskalpel: then try clicking the icon again11:54
nadrojdoes gaim offer a plugin that displays the album of the current track you're listening to as your buddy icon?11:55
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skalpelk, thank you11:55
syndnadroj, not that i know of11:55
syndnadroj, try asking in #gaim11:55
nadrojok, thanks11:55
skalpelhyphenated: jon@ubuntu:~$ killall firefox-bin11:55
skalpelfirefox-bin: no process killed11:55
Yagisanznh: Back again. Just tried running two copies, using different ports on my main box.11:56
hyphenatedskalpel: hmm, ok while you're in that shell, type in 'firefox' and see if any interesting messages appear while it tries to load11:56
lucianhow can i install mp3-plugins for xmms?11:56
znhYagisan: and how did it result?11:56
asfraok, I got the sources .list11:56
synd!restricted11:56
ubotuwell, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:56
syndlucian, go there11:56
skalpelhyphenated: (firefox-bin:20364): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:11:56
skalpeli think that is interesting11:56
asfraSo here I'm supposed to add web-sites where apt can get packages?11:56
Yagisanznh: bit of stuffing around with the client ids11:56
znhskalpel: try running it as non-root11:56
nJesshttp://midnight-jester.csmn-ctd.net/cupsd.conf11:57
skalpeli did11:57
nJessGourami,11:57
znhYagisan: hm?11:57
Yagisanznh: They both just came up11:57
asfradamn, I think I need to buy a book on this install stuff11:57
znhYagisan: they came up in the masterlist?11:57
Gouramithanks nJess11:57
nJessnp11:57
syndasfra, uncomment the urls11:57
Yagisanznh: local connect11:57
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syndasfra, as in take away the #11:57
synd's11:57
luciansynd: where???11:57
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znhYagisan: ah, then it should also work on the internet, _if_ it could be accessed11:58
GouraminJess: I get page cannot be found11:58
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syndlucian, watch11:58
pippijnip -4 neigh flush dev eth011:58
synd!restricted11:58
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:58
pippijnwhat's wrong with that?11:58
luciani'm watching11:58
syndlucian, go where ubotu said11:58
asfraYes, I'm at it :-)11:58
Yagisanznh: well, port forwarding is correctly set up so that shouldn't be a problem.11:58
Yagisanznh: finally working doomsday on linux :)11:58
znhYagisan: hm, you might want to try connecting to your ip address from outside11:58
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nJesswhy is that called restricted anyhow?11:59
synd!synd11:59
ubotuit has been said that synd is a badass11:59
znhROFL11:59
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znh!znh11:59
skalpelshould i just logout and login? it seems to be the xserver11:59
pippijn!pippijn11:59
ubotuznh: I don't know, could you explain it?11:59
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, pippijn11:59
pippijnhm11:59
Yagisanznh: will try that in just a second. Need to punch another hole through my nat.11:59
pippijnubotu doesn't know me11:59
ubotuI haven't a clue, pippijn11:59
syndpippijn, znh: play with the bot in PM12:00
Protosshello12:00
Imsdleigive up.. damn quasar! does anyone here use gnucash for a small business.  if so what is it like12:00
pippijnokay12:00
znhhi Protoss12:00
lucianwth is a repository???12:00
Protosshow are you today?12:00
treviI have and old magazine's cd with the sources of Corel WP do you think it might compile in ubuntu?12:00
znhlucian: It's a location that apt-get can use to get his packages12:00
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syndtrevi, what on earth would you want with wordperfect?12:00
cruscan anyone recommend a good pop server for linux? is there any groupmail servers for linux that would allow an Outlook client to connect to it in a similar fashion to exchange?12:01
znh*silence*12:01
pippijnanyone knows about my iproute issue?12:01
pippijnit hangs at ip -4 neigh flush dev eth012:01
trevithe important thing is if it can be done...12:01
treviI guess12:01
syndtrevi, yes it can be done with the right dependencies, i would imagine12:02
trevihe... thanks synd12:02
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lucianisn't there a command like apt-get install xmms-mp3-plugin, to do it easyer???12:02
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syndlucian, no12:02
lucianok yhanks12:03
lucianok thanks12:03
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asfraby the way I got this when opening sources.list: '(gedit:9747): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:12:03
asfraAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.' nothing to worry about I guess?12:03
concept10crus: check out bynari.net12:04
syndlucian, and make sure that xmms is pointing to the right mixer output12:04
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luciansynd, what does that mean???12:04
Protossasfra, why not?12:04
crusconcept10: thanks, ill check it out :) looking to run my own mailserver at home :)12:04
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syndlucian, in xmms' preferences12:05
syndlucian, there is an I/O Plugin tab, iirc12:05
nJesshow long should mplayer take to compule on a 1ghz proc?12:05
nJesscompile*12:05
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syndlucian, and under output, there is a dropdown menu12:06
asfrajust hoping :)12:06
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lucianhow can i close a window? Load files has frozen?12:06
lucianand i can't find preferences12:06
Protosslucian, xorg?12:07
nJessright click the program gui12:07
lucianyes12:07
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bobbyd_hi12:07
Protosslucian, hehehehhhehhehehehhehhehehhehe12:07
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luciandon't laugh12:07
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znhProtoss: don't do that12:08
Protosslucian, gtk+ ?12:08
avatar_quick question, what is the default root password for the liveCD?12:08
bobbyd_we want to use debian for a server application we're developing because of it's stability. We also want to use graphical development tools under linux. Would ubuntu give us the nice graphical development tools with the stability of debian?12:08
lucianwhat's that?12:08
znhavatar_: I think you have to define on by typing passwd12:08
lucianProtoss: what's that?12:08
Protosslucian, gedit(gtk+) ?12:08
lucianProtoss: what's that?12:08
Gouramiwhat is the terminal command to delete ?12:08
syndbobbyd_, in a nutshell, yes12:08
Protossah12:08
bobbyd_synd, cool12:08
Protossgtk+ ot gtk+2 ?12:09
Protossor12:09
avatar_znh, kind of hard when i cant login as root :(12:09
lucianProtoss: take it easy with me12:09
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avatar_znh, default user is ubuntu..12:09
znhavatar_: Aw, that's rude..12:09
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avatar_znh, yes indeed.12:09
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avatar_so someone should know..?12:09
znhavatar_: maybe http://ubuntuguide.org has listed it12:09
avatar_znh, will give it a shot.12:10
Yagisanznh: Nup. Couldn't see it on the master server. Yet I can clearly see it here http://www.doomsdayhq.com/master.php12:10
syndznh, please dont recommend ubuntuguid.org12:10
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syndubuntuguide.org*12:10
Gouramiwhat is the terminal command to delete a file ?12:10
znhsynd: how come? - It has good information12:10
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lucianwhere is xkill so i can kill them???12:10
Raptoidhelp me pls..12:10
znhYagisan: hm, then the masterserver is not fixed yet12:10
factorHello everyone.12:10
Protosshello,factorial12:10
Raptoidhelp meee12:10
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znhGourami: rm is the command, before using it I highly recommend you to read the man page, by typing 'man rm'12:10
RaptoidE: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox12:10
RaptoidE: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support12:10
Nikopol quick question: Is there a simple way to trim both ends of an xvid file under linux?12:10
Raptoidhelp me ?12:11
trevirm12:11
factorHehe protoss :-D12:11
Protoss?12:11
Protosshello,faboccini12:11
factorThe factorial thing...12:11
factorFibonacci?12:11
avatar_znh, thnx m8 :)12:11
ProtossOo12:11
znhavatar_: did you find it on that page?12:11
Protosshello,world.12:12
pippijnhi Protoss12:12
Protoss:)12:12
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lucianhellor ZERG12:12
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lucianMy life for Aiur!!!12:13
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syndznh, the wiki is much better, and accurate.12:13
syndznh, please follow these guidlines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines12:13
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Protossoh12:14
znhsynd: sorry didn't knew, thanks for informing me!12:14
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=== Protoss don't do that...
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syndznh, no problem12:14
factorI wish I had a Linux friendly modem12:14
dmoynehello ! ; I am trying to get some printers connected to a Linux server (CUPS) seen by a LAN Windows machine ; yerterday I sweeted a lot on the Window machine but in vain ; any body to help ?12:14
Protosswhat is windows?12:15
dmoyneWindows 200012:15
Protossa linux clone?12:15
bagginshello.12:15
Yagisanznh: so odd. Can't connect to it, using the external address, but when I use the internal address I connect fine.12:16
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Madpilot!uguide12:16
ubotuMadpilot: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:16
Madpilot!ubuntuguide12:16
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.12:16
syndProtoss, i believe it would be an os x ripoff12:16
YagisanProtoss: windows is a reactos clone12:16
Madpilotthere we go...12:16
ProtossI doubt it.12:16
znhYagisan: also on your local network?12:16
syndMadpilot, ah.. forgot about that12:17
Yagisanznh: yeah12:17
znhYagisan: they they blocked it for some reason, or you have to configure it properly12:17
dmoyne znh : is this question for me ?12:17
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znhdmoyne: what question?12:17
=== factor np: Credence Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Son [02:18m/128Kbps/44KHz]
dmoynesoryy I think you talkes to some one else !12:18
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znhdmoyne: what client are you using?12:18
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dmoyneI have 2 machines connected to a DLINK-604 routeur ; one (server) is Linux with CUPS the other Windows 2000 !12:19
Raptoidhelp me pls12:19
Raptoidsee #flood channel12:19
tikkaHelp required over here guys::: "Testing Network Repository".... 50% hanging there.12:19
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syndlucian, sorry.. no PMs please12:20
=== factor np: INXS - Track 07 [05:10m/128Kbps/44KHz]
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Yagisanznh: Thanks for your help. I'll investigate this further. At least internal netgames work.12:20
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Protossaye... so easy12:20
eth42hi! anyone using firefox & thunderbird?12:20
znhYagisan: yea, np.. good luck with it12:20
Raptoidznh, help me12:21
znhRaptoid: give me one reason, and I will12:21
znh*giggles*12:21
Raptoidjoin #flood channel12:21
Raptoidznh,12:21
Raptoidpaste12:21
Protosseth42, mozilla is better12:21
znhRaptoid: I'm there, past @ will12:22
eth42Protoss: I agree, I prefer the user interfaces of Mozilla & Mozilla Mail12:22
znhRaptoid: you might have to apt-get update12:22
eth42Protoss: yet I think it's better to separate the components as Firefox and THunderbird do12:22
eth42Protoss: and in the long term, Mozilla is dead12:23
Protossph no12:23
Protossoh no12:23
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Protosslong life mozilla12:23
znhRaptoid: I don't have much expierence with dpkg, try with the --force flag12:23
eth42don't think so12:23
eth42there will be no release after 1.7.x, right?12:24
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syndfirefox is the future of mozilla12:24
ProtossI will wait for new version12:24
znhsynd: furture aint the good word to be honest.. (whines)12:25
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=== factor np: Elvis Presley - Return To Sender [02:08m/128Kbps/44KHz]
eth42furture ain't a word, anyway, to be honest12:25
znhfactor: lol I have that song12:25
znhfactor: you don't even have CD Quality :P12:25
Protosswhat song?12:25
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ProtossI perfer tape Quality12:26
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factorLol.12:26
factorIt's ok znh.12:26
treviand tomorrow lp quality12:26
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factor128 KBps sounds fine :-D12:27
Protosstape quality is enough12:27
znhheh12:27
Protossdrm free12:27
factorAnd dial up is not conducive to downloading :-P12:27
=== factor np: Willy Nelson - You Were Always On My Mind [03:31m/128Kbps/44KHz]
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factorBut hey, I personally think it's just entertaining watching my playlist cycle around12:28
factorFrom CCR > INXS > Elivs > Willy Nelso12:28
factorLittle non-sequitir there :-D12:28
seliniumHow do i mount a slave drive? I have created a folder /media/slave the drive is hdb1. What is the mount command?12:28
znhselinium: mount /media/slave <location> ?12:29
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Protossfactor, I hate music so...12:30
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=== factor np: Lynyrd Skynyrd - Track 14 [03:42m/128Kbps/44KHz]
factorReally now protoss?12:31
=== factor np: Red Hot Chili Peppers - City of angels [04:24m/128Kbps/44KHz]
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Protossumm12:31
Burgundaviafactor, please turn off your np stuff12:31
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Madpilothey, factor finally listens to something decent...12:31
ProtossI perfer free live music12:31
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factorLol madpilot.12:31
znhanyone seen a big bug? I do: http://isl33t.net/pics/IMG_1129.JPG12:31
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juleshey guys12:31
factorEh, I've been listening to NIN all day12:31
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ProtossI can play piano12:32
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tikkacool pic znh12:32
znhtikka: made myself in france this vacation :)12:32
eeblheyko: does anyone know how to change the screen res & vsync when chosing what image to boot on PPC ubuntu?12:32
eebl**Hey12:32
eeblstupid auto-complete12:32
Burgundaviaubuntu making inroads --> http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=71212:32
stimpieznh, I cant see how big that is12:32
Burgundaviasee the changelog12:32
tikkasweet12:33
Admin_guys i have a little problem , the PC on ubuntu don't want to connect a Network Printer on Windows 9812:33
znhstimpie: how come :-D?12:33
stimpiethere is no reference point12:33
Madpilotgood night/morning/day/whatever, everyone.12:34
ProtossAdmin_, so you can remove win98 right now12:34
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znhmorning Madpilot12:34
factorHm.12:34
factorIt's 5:40 AM here.12:34
factorI should've gone to sleep a few hours ago probably12:34
znhfactor: 12:34 here12:34
ProtossOo12:34
Admin_Protoss no i can't12:34
eeblSo, nobody knows how to change the resolution and refresh rate when booting?12:34
Protossyou can12:34
factorPM or AM znh?12:34
Admin_there are programs Bookmaking12:34
eebler12:34
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eeblbefore12:34
eeblbootin12:34
Protossdo it12:35
Admin_that runs only on Windows12:35
znhfactor: euh..12:35
znhfactor: how do I see xD12:35
skalpelcan someone help me with changing my identd name?12:35
Protoss/msg operator12:36
factorHm12:36
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=== Protoss hehe
=== eebl cries in a happy way. Sorta.
znheebl: awww you poor thing12:37
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eebllol12:37
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factorIn a happy way eebl?12:37
eeblits just annoying the hell out of me, every time I try to boot my screen gives me the ol' "Frequency out of Range" thing12:37
ProtossI must to have something12:37
Protossnow12:38
eeblfactor: yes.12:38
skalpelobviously12:38
Protossbye all12:38
eeblciao praetorian12:38
eebler12:38
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eeblProtoss12:38
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factorAh.12:38
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znhcrying in a happy way is conflicting to other people errrrr12:39
znhw/e12:39
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factorLol12:39
CoffeeBreak1hi. Trying to install ubuntu on an amd64 with a SATA drive and it seems like the sata drive is not recognized. I modprobed all kernel/drivers/sata* modules without luck. Suse live does recognize the disk. Any hint?12:39
tikkause suse12:39
Crafty-CatcherHi I wanted to setup a raid1 but i am having problems with booting and mounting /dev/md0 as / Errors are here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/789 - Does anyone have a clue on this?12:40
CoffeeBreak1tikka: :) sure this is an official ubuntu channel ?12:40
eeblCoffeeBreak1: The sheer number of users should be enough of a hint ;)12:41
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eeblAnd sorry, cant help you :(12:41
znhtikka: yea lol.. advertising for some other distrb is not very kind12:41
tikkalol12:41
tikkasorry guys :D12:41
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tikkai dont use suse myself mind you.12:41
CapSoftlo folks12:41
tikka*tries to redeem himself*12:41
eeblDamnit.12:41
CapSofthow do i make my eth0 switch to 10baseT-FD on boot?12:41
eeblThis is really irking me12:41
CapSoftmii-tool --force=10baseT-FD on boot?12:42
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CapSoftdoes someone know how to put up eth0 at 10mbit while booting?12:45
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stimpiesomeone got with vi?12:47
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CapSoftstimpie, why vi?12:48
CapSoftwhy not nano?12:48
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stimpievi is the only editor available on my current system12:48
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podgeCapSoft: I think you pass arguments to the networking kernel module,,12:48
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stimpiebut iam having issues moving part of a line to the next line12:48
CapSofthow do i do that podge???12:48
stimpielike an <cr> in nano would do12:49
podgestimpie: I use vi...12:49
CapSoftstimpie, what is ur current system? just sudo apt-get install nano12:49
CapSoftow ok12:49
stimpieCapSoft, current system is minix (yes i know not the correct channel)12:49
toowoombawhy minix?12:50
podgestimpie: move to where you want to put the <cr>... type i, press return, then press escape.. then ZZ to save and exit12:50
stimpiepodge, I wish to move part of a line to the next line, like an enter in nano would do12:50
Crafty-Catcher(2.6.10-5-386) Hi I wanted to setup a raid1 but i am having problems with booting and mounting /dev/md0 as / Errors are here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/789 - Does anyone have a clue on this?12:50
podgeCapSoft: I am looking for the instructions..12:50
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CapSoftthanks podge12:50
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stimpiepodge, ok that does it thanx12:51
CapSoftwhy minix stimpie ?12:51
puupihello! can someone help me with one question: im going to install ubuntu now, but i have windows already installed, i want to have them both, what to do?12:51
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Adrosswhats this 'terminal' thing everyone keeps talking about?12:51
stimpieCapSoft, school assignment12:51
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puupii want to have windows on the other hdd and ubuntu on the other12:51
CapSoftpuupi, have you got unpartitioned room?12:51
CapSoftdunno Adross12:51
puupiive got an empty hdd12:51
greg123puupi...im just comming in to ask about exactly th same thing12:51
puupifor linux12:51
matthewHey, i have installed visualboyadvance from the package manager, but how do i start it?12:51
CapSoftcan be done puupi12:51
factorIf you have two separate hard drives then just install it on that one12:52
AdrossCapSoft: dammit, linux sucks, should be more like windows. Myah myah myah12:52
CapSoftmatthew, go in command line and typ visu and then hit tab12:52
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factorIt will automatically detect your IDE devices and you can just install on the empty one.12:52
puupiok, but can i remove the windows hdd for the time im installing linux, just because i dont want to fuck anything up12:52
matthewthanks12:52
CapSoftlol @ Adross12:52
factorOpen your case and take it out?12:52
CapSoftlol12:52
Yagisa1CrafttyCatcher: Yes12:52
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CapSoftlol @ puupi ever thought about ur MBR12:52
CapSoftand/ or bootloader?12:53
puupiif i dont have windows hdd attached while im installing....and i attach it later on, will my booting be fucked?12:53
trevipuupi: grub won't run windoze12:53
podgeCapSoft: What network card do you have?12:53
stimpiepuupi, most likely but that can be fixed12:53
factorGRUB won't have detected win 2000 the first time through12:53
CapSoftrealtek podge12:53
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stimpieyou can easily add windows later12:53
factorI'm running this system on dual boot with win2000 trevi...12:53
puupihmm ok, but the installer detects both my hdds?12:54
CapSoftyou will have to configure grub manual to activate the windows boot...12:54
puupiand i can choose either one to install linux on12:54
trevime too factor12:54
matthewCapSoft when i do that it just changes it to visudo12:54
CapSoftpuupi, you can manage partitions while installing ubuntu12:54
factorAh ok, the way you said that made it sound as if you couldn't boot into windows from GRUB12:54
trevibut puupi wants to take off hda12:54
factorLol12:54
CapSoftmatthew, you installed from package manager??12:54
CapSoftone moment12:54
matthewyes12:55
puupidoes ubuntu have a bootloader which detects windows too?12:55
matthewgrub12:55
puupiso i can pick which one to run12:55
CapSoftgrub puupi12:55
toowoombaworked for me12:55
puupiokay12:55
puupithx12:55
puupiill go installing  now then12:55
toowoombanever boot windows anymore though :)12:55
stimpiegrub doesnt detects windows, or does it?12:55
puupihopefully i can someday come back :P12:55
Adrossstimpie:12:55
factorIt does stimpie12:55
trevisee you when it done puupi12:55
Adrossyes, it does12:55
toowoombait detected it for me I think12:55
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puupibbl :D12:55
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stimpiefactor, I should try that sometime, now just let me find a windows machine12:56
factorHaha.12:56
factorI have it dual booting from one hard drive at the moment.12:56
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factor26 GB for Ubuntu and 90 for Windows 200012:56
deadzedhow do I install nvidia?12:56
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deadzedI did everything like ubuntuguide said... but it dont work :( ... screen just stays blank12:57
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toowoombadead: ubuntuguide.org12:57
deadzedhad to resotre xorg.conf and Im stuck now12:57
toowoombaworks for me12:57
deadzeddoesnt work for me12:58
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deadzedI need to buy ati as weel I think12:58
CapSoftmatthew, http://www.mameworld.net/easyemu/vboyadvtut.htm12:58
deadzedbut still12:58
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matthewCapSoft thanks12:59
deadzedwould any pro's help me with hacking my box please.. cant start nvidia :(12:59
deadzedroot@ubuntu:~ #12:59
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ghitasomeone using xawtv cvs snapshot?12:59
stephankHah, I can consistently crash breezy's metacity by unhiding the gaim window o_O01:00
matthewCapSoft that is for windows01:00
CapSoftmatthew, vba01:00
factorHm01:00
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factorIt's 6 AM01:00
factorI think I'm gonna go to sleep...01:01
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CapSoftmatthew, the command is vba01:01
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tankiwoo-oo! i have a unique hostname that inspires indinviduality and creativity01:01
CapSofttanki, let me guess: HOSTNAME01:02
trevitanki: SOUP CAN01:02
CapSoftpodge, have you found it?01:02
tankino i meant on irc01:02
concept10Sorry guys, I have to share this.. it is too funny to me: http://divinebluelotus.blogspot.com/01:03
CapSoftlmao01:03
concept10so simple but funny01:03
CapSoftyou can01:03
CapSoftsoup can01:03
CapSoftcannon01:03
matthewhow do you install .deb files?01:03
CapSoftpkdg -i blabla.deb01:03
CapSoftif i remember correctly01:03
concept10matthew, dpkg -i package.deb01:03
matthewok thanks01:04
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tankii didn't get the soup can reference :)01:04
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matthewgnomeboyadvance depends on python (<< 2.4); however:01:05
matthew  Version of python on system is 2.4.1-0ubuntu2.01:05
podgeCapSoft: Not familiar with Ubuntu.. I will find it though.. :)01:05
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matthewhow can i fix this01:05
tankipodge, are you used to debian01:06
CoffeeBreak1so no one with an IDEA on how to detect the SATA disk at install time?01:06
bob2using caps is just annoying01:06
bob2and will encourage people to ignore you01:06
bob2matthew: whatever pacgae you're trying to install is not for ubuntu hoary01:07
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matthewim trying to install gnomeboy the front end for visualboyadvance but there are now ubuntu specific packages on the site01:08
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bob2well, the package yo udownloaded is not for ubuntu, sorry01:08
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bob2CoffeeBreak1: please don't /msg me01:08
matthew:(01:09
bob2CoffeeBreak1: I'd try fiddling bios settings, perhaps you can make it emulate PATA01:09
skalpelcan someone tell me how to change my ident name?01:09
bob2skalpel: the point of identd is that you don't01:09
bob2it's supposed to report your actual ubuntu user name01:10
bob2nullidentd and friends invent a random one instead01:10
skalpeloh really01:10
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bob2why would you change it?01:10
skalpelcan i change what they invent somehow? i am using nullidentd01:10
liableCoffeeBreak1: http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html01:10
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Gouramican anyone help me with sharing a printer on Ubuntu, I have read Ubuntuguide and modified cupsd.conf, I can get so far as windows how actually connecting to the printer, but I am getting thrown out with permissions error, I have set AuthType to None which should prevent this problem, any help please ?01:11
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tankibob2 is pretty useless, i think they leave it around for legacy reasons01:11
podgetanki: I have used Solaris, SUSE and Redhat.. so maybe Debian isn't my speciality.. but Ubuntu is now my Linux desktop..01:12
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tankii meant, bob2: identd is pretty useless...01:12
bob2yeah, I know01:12
joachimhi01:12
bob2I'm nto sure why irc networks care anymore01:12
podgetanki: I am a Solaris admin at work..01:12
eeblOooh01:12
eeblIt works!01:12
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tankipodge, the reason i mentioned debian is ubuntu is based on it but it's a little bit more friendly to unseasoned users01:12
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eeblit seems that the login screen (for some reason) isnt screwing up.01:13
eeblYay01:13
trevihi joachim01:13
joachimis there any way to make files you drag in Nautilus have translucent icons?01:13
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lirazI am unable to get consistant fonts across my whole system. I.e: I have set gnome fonts to tahoma and disabled AA for all windows fonts but in thunderbird AA is enabled. In firefox sites only partly do some sites use the windows fonts(maybe %60).01:13
lirazI am having trouble finding the cause... any ideas01:13
Gouramican anyone help me with sharing a printer on Ubuntu, I have read Ubuntuguide and modified cupsd.conf, I can get so far as windows how actually connecting to the printer, but I am getting thrown out with permissions error, I have set AuthType to None which should prevent this problem, any help please ?01:13
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tankipodga, solaris eh, i could never transition to it well because it didn't use gnu utilities and i guess i grew used to the gnu extensions added to certain things like ls -h heh01:14
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podgetanki: Yeah.. Can you help CapSoft with his duplex question?01:14
salilhow do you see which processes are running..??01:14
tankipodge, have you ever tinkered with x86 solaris?01:14
tikkaps ax01:14
podgetanki: This is why we have /opt/gnu on all of our Solaris machines.. :) GNU utils are great..01:14
eeblI've so gotta try solaris01:15
eeblon a sun box01:15
eeblI bet it'll make me drool.01:15
trevidrool?01:15
bob2even on sun machines solaris is a painful user experience01:15
podgetanki: We are running Solaris x86 on some of our production servers at work.. so yeah.. I've tinkered with it..:)01:15
CoffeeBreak1bob2: suse detects the sata disk without issue. maybe because they use 2.6.11 instead of 2.6.10. Sorry for the /msg, it's usually not inappropriate.01:16
CapSofti am back01:16
tankiI don't think I've mastered linux enough to say, you know this posix-like enviornment is just holding me back, i need real unices01:16
eebltrevi: yep :)01:16
podgeeebl: Stick with Linux..01:16
CapSofttanki,  shoot01:16
CapSoftow lol01:16
CapSoftok01:16
eeblpodge: I'm actually on an XP box atm...01:16
podgebob2: I disagree.. Solaris on Sun hardware is fantastic..01:16
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CapSofttanki i have a network card which needs to go to 10baseT-FD at boot...01:16
podgeeebl: or Windows..01:16
tankiCapSoft, um ok01:16
bob2podge: you like CDE and a BSD userland?01:16
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eeblpodge: ehehe :D01:16
tankiwhatever floats your boat01:16
bob2CoffeeBreak1: perhaps; what does google say about support for your SATA chipset?01:16
CapSoftnow i do mii-tool --force=10baseT-FD01:17
eeblCapSoft: why?01:17
CapSofteverytime i boot01:17
CapSoftotherwise i don't get an ip adres from dhcp01:17
podgebob2: I run Java Desktop V3 on Solaris 10 at work..01:17
tankiCapSoft, that's odd but yeah i think that's right01:17
bob2ah, old gnome then01:17
CapSoftit is right01:17
bob2the userland is still painful compared to GNU01:17
CapSoftbut i want it at boot time01:17
tankioh01:17
CapSoftso that 10 mbit is default...01:18
salilhey .. can anyone help me out with something... how to see which processes are running and get their pid as well..??01:18
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CapSoftsalil, ps -A01:18
tankiyou have a few choices, you could just edit the network service script in /etc/rc.d/01:18
bob2salil: it'd be easier if you just told us what you're trying to do01:18
CapSoftor visual : applications -> systemtools -> process manager01:18
salilthanks..01:18
podgebob2: Well yeah.. some could argue that userland Linux is painful when compared to Windows.. (but we know it isn't)..01:18
CapSoftnp01:18
salilno.. i wanted to see.. which processes were running..01:18
CapSoftaha01:18
wijnandsalil: i find `ps aux` gives me more info that i could ever need01:19
salilthanks..01:19
salilgotit01:19
CapSofti'll have a look tanki01:19
bob2tanki: adding it as a pre-up line to /etc/network/interfaces would be better01:19
tankithere you go01:19
bob2podge: except gnu is more or less a subset of bsd userland01:19
CapSofthow bob2 ?01:19
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wijnandsalil: another option could be to use `top` which will show processes and how much cpu time they are eating01:19
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salilwo.... what is all that..01:19
CapSoftcd /etc/rc and then? 0.d till 6.d ?01:19
salilthakns a lot .. guys..01:20
bob2CapSoft: don't touch them01:20
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podgebob2: I looked for options in the interfaces file but there was nothing about duplex?01:20
CapSofthow then bob2?01:20
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CapSoftwhere is the interface file podge ?01:20
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bushwakkohey01:20
CapSofthey bushwakko01:20
bob2then just be quite for 2 minutes while I look it up for you01:20
tanki./etc/network01:20
bob2you could read "man 5 interfaces" yourself01:20
bushwakkoI'm having problems booting my suse with 2.6.11 kernel because of the sis5513 driver01:20
CapSoftthanks bob201:20
podgebob2: heheh..01:21
micampehow come I'm fine with the hoary supported ipw2200 drivers and if I upgrade to the latest version I get the problems I was supposed to get with the old one? :)01:21
bushwakkoit works fine on ubuntu though01:21
bushwakkoand thats 2.6.1001:21
bushwakkowhat patches have been added?01:21
bushwakkoin ubuntu that is01:21
bob2bushwakko: read the changelog01:21
trevilet suse rest in peace01:21
bushwakkowhere?01:21
bob2CapSoft: on the line after the iface thN inet dhcp, "pre-up mii-teel whatever blah"01:22
tankicheck out the pman/pinfo package, it basically prettys up man files, makes them very lynx-like01:22
micampebushwakko: there's an ubuntu-patches package or some like that01:22
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bushwakkomicampe, downloaded the patches package01:22
bob2bushwakko: /usr/share/doc/linux-image-2.6.10-whatever/01:22
bushwakkoand read the patches file01:22
CapSoftuhhhhhhhhhhhhh bob2 you stunned me....01:22
bushwakkofound the part where it patches the sis-driver01:22
bushwakkobut i dunno if thats it01:22
bushwakkoseems to be api changes only01:22
bob2?01:22
CapSoft:/etc/network/if-pre-up.d$01:22
CapSoftthere?01:22
bob2no01:23
CoffeeBreak1bob2: yes I need 2.6.11 (see http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/14/message/33461/flat)  Is there a post 2.6.10 kernel image available somewhere for hoary? I could download a package and install it using a mounted usb key or drive.01:23
bob221:19:07 @         bob2 | tanki: adding it as a pre-up line to /etc/network/interfaces would be better01:23
bob2CapSoft: ^01:23
CapSoftok01:23
tankihaha poor01:23
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tankibob01:23
CapSoftso i opened that file now with nano01:23
CapSoftand then?01:23
bob2CoffeeBreak1: no, unfortunately, and breezy is pretty broken01:23
CapSoftwhat line where?01:23
bob221:22:01 @         bob2 | CapSoft: on the line after the iface thN inet dhcp, "pre-up mii-teel whatever blah"01:23
CapSoftsorry that i am so noobish01:23
bob2CapSoft: please stop talking and read what I've said again01:23
CapSoftlol k01:24
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CapSoftso i change this sentence01:24
CapSoftiface eth0 inet dhcp01:24
CapSoftlol01:24
trevinow bob is gettin' mad01:24
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bob2no, frustrated01:24
bob2if you don't understand a specific answer, read it again01:24
bob2and again01:24
tankibob is running solo in here, he's like a rambo but instead of bullets, he's throwing out knowledge01:24
bob2and then if you still don't get it, ask for help with the specific portion you don't get01:24
CapSoftiface eth0 inet dhcp, "pre-up mii-tool --force=10baseT-FD"01:24
IceDC571i love compiling from source :)01:25
bob2CapSoft: if , is a newline, and you get rid of the quotes, yes01:25
CapSoftow ok01:25
CapSoftTHANKS01:25
CapSoftdidn't knew that01:25
tankiIceDC571, yeah I used to compile stuff from source and watch the screen and feel important, as if i knew what was going on01:25
CapSoftbig thanks bob201:25
CapSofti have it now01:25
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podgebob2: Good work.. thanks for the tip.. didn't know about up and pre-up01:26
tankiIceDC571, when people were in my room I would randomly compile something and have it run in a nice term in fullscreen, just to make them think I was doing something important01:26
CapSoftwhere did you found that info, in the man page?01:26
IceDC571i love how you try to guess when the make process is finished.. it just keeps going and going and going..01:26
podgeCapSoft : man interfaces01:26
CapSofti knew up since i had to do ifup --force eth0 everytime after the mii-tool thingy01:26
CapSoftthanks01:26
podgebob2: I was looking for something more like "duplex" etc..01:27
IceDC571if i was on a reality show all you would see is me, a chair, a screen with text scrolling constantly01:27
bob2podge: right, small tools ;p01:27
tankiIceDC571, haha yes but i think you and me need to go to a bar and pick up women because that's too geeky01:27
podgebob2: Although doing duplex on Solaris is pretty ugly.. :)01:27
podgetanki: Nah.. go to an Internet bar and pick up women..01:27
IceDC571./configure and make love01:28
tankino way girls at cybercafe's have bubblebutts hehe01:28
tankioh and that's assuming you can find a girl at a cybercafe01:28
CapSoftlmao01:28
CapSoftare there irc channels for that?01:28
CapSoftomg01:28
tankinever date girls online because they're probably 40 year old virgins called matt who live at home and collect comics01:29
CapSoftwhahahaha01:29
CapSoftgood one01:29
CapSoft:)01:29
IceDC571you'd be surprised01:29
CapSoftsomeone knows how i can backup everything from thunderbird? my messages and adres book?01:30
bob2maybe #ubuntu-offtopic, folks01:30
tankisowwy01:30
IceDC571#ubuntu-women01:30
IceDC571lol01:30
IceDC571too bad theres not enough01:30
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tankiyeah come to offtpic guys, i know some great pickup lines that work if they dont smack you first01:30
IceDC571or any at all...01:30
bob2there are plenty of women using ubuntu01:31
CapSoftsomeone knows how i can backup everything from thunderbird? my messages and adres book???? any1?01:31
bob2perhaps they make their gender non-obvious to avoid lame discussions like the aove01:31
bob2CapSoft: presumably ~/.mozilla/thunderbird/ or so01:31
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bob2just look through your home directory01:31
CapSoftthanks bob01:31
podgeThat would be a useful option in Thunderbird.. ie.. Tools->Backup01:34
skalpeli think i just had a heartatache01:34
skalpelhow would you know?01:34
CapSoftthe most 1337 command in ubuntu :01:34
CapSoftsudo apt-get install pingus01:34
bob2if you mean "heart attack", you wouldn't be on irc to talk about it01:34
IceDC571omg tanki i'd rather talk about geek stuff01:34
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skalpelanother new user. sweet01:34
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IceDC571am i new?01:35
ubuntuam i?01:35
ubuntuahak01:35
ubuntudefault setting, hmmm01:35
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tankiIceDC571, you know how much your code will improve when you get a girlfriend, it's like 10x the power of coffee01:36
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podgeskalpel: What is your medical dilemma?01:36
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IceDC571tanki: more like decrease.. spending more time with a girl?01:36
podgetanki: YOu won't be coding if you have a girlfriend..01:36
tankisure you will because you can't be with her 24/7 and you dont want to come off too needy so you will have to keep yourself busy01:37
treviI better go spreadin'01:37
podgetanki: Too needy? errr.. hopefully she's jumping your bones as frequently as possible!01:37
tankiok lets talk offtopic about this because it's a deep subject01:38
tankicome to #ubuntu-offtopic01:38
ed1ttanki, if u ask me, dont get a gf.....tooo much drama01:38
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podgetanki: The kernel patches can wait.. hahah..01:38
ed1tone night stand01:38
bob2come on folks01:38
podgeha01:38
bob2try to maintain some human dignity01:38
mevaghhi all01:38
podgebob2: What do you mean?01:39
IceDC571i need a girl with tatoos that say dash ./compile make love01:39
trevihi mevagh01:39
bob2jokes about "make love" are what I'd expect in #gentoo-teens ;p01:39
rob^IceDC571, thinkgeek might have some temp ones :P01:39
IceDC571or dash ./compile make love; fsck01:39
ed1tlol bob201:40
mevaghcould i get some help? sound isn't working for me an this dell (I'm setting it up for my sis, mevagh)01:40
bob2anyway, non-ubuntu-support-related questions -> #ubuntu01:40
trevifirst you run apt-get install love01:40
sJaMwhat do you mean with sound isn't working mevagh01:40
rob^apt-cache show love01:40
sJaMubuntu uses the esd deamon standard01:41
rob^mmm.. poontang01:41
skalpeli prefer apt-get install hardsexputthecremesaverinitthenlickitout01:41
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trevishow is not enough01:41
sJaMso with XMMS and Beep Media Player you have to put output plugin to esd01:41
bob2seriously, enough01:41
IceDC571i think thats enough.. so you can just fsck love and make clean01:41
skalpelis bmp better than xmms?01:41
mevaghwhen using an audio player, the device seems to be in use.. and i think when i started esd from xterm it said /dev/dsp or whatever didn't exist01:41
rob^skallen, yes01:42
sJaMwhich audio player ?01:42
sJaMmevagh01:42
bob2skalpel: no, it's basically the same but with less plugins01:42
IceDC571skalpel: most people say yes, try it out for yourself01:42
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rob^skallen, up to date toolkit01:42
IceDC571haha bob201:42
mevaghrealplayer, and mplayer01:42
sJaMwith mplayer01:42
bob2(seriously)01:42
ateveshi! is it possible that maximzed windows cover the gnome panels?01:42
sJaMyou have to add add the command line01:42
IceDC571try xmms first, if you dont mind how it looks then keep it01:42
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sJaM -ao esd01:42
atevesi like to change it this way01:42
jonnnnhi01:42
sJaMor if you use the gui01:42
skalpeli hate the xmms ui01:42
skalpelbut it is the only player that works well for me01:43
sJaMyou have to select at the audio tab of Preferences the esd EsoundD audio output01:43
tankii love xmms but i have it skinned nicely01:43
trevihi jonn01:43
skalpelhi01:43
jonnnni just install ubuntu but display resolution sucks only 640x... by default01:43
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skalpeljonnn: edit xorg.conf01:43
sJaMI never used realplayer but you have to make sure it selects the esd output deamon for sound01:43
IceDC571skalpel: try bmp then, you have nothing to lose.. well you'll lose a lot of plugin support.. but who needs all those and all those formats anyway?01:43
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sJaMdoes that work mevagh01:44
IceDC571actually im stupid01:44
skalpelicedc571: i would rather use rhythm box but it sucks01:44
jonnnnskalpel, what to edit in xorg.conf?01:44
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tankii also like xmms plugins, the one that converts mp3s to wav01:44
IceDC571bmp is backwards compatible with xmms plugins01:44
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sJaMbmp is compatible with xmms skalpel01:44
skalpeljonnn: your display modes, and also your refresh rates probably, that is what i had to do.01:44
sJaMif you have both installed and running bmp01:44
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tankiwhat's bmp stand for01:45
mevaghno, esd isn't running in the first place01:45
sJaMthen most xmms tools work also for bmp01:45
mevaghALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave01:45
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bob2tanki: beep media player01:45
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mevaghthat's when i run esd from terminal01:45
sJaMlsof | grep dsp01:45
jonnnnskalpel, display modes are  "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480" "64001:45
mevaghnothing01:45
sJaMso nobody is using the device01:46
skalpeljonnn: you will probably have to add is Horizsync and Vertrefresh01:46
sJaMand if you do01:46
skalpeland then add in the refresh rates your monitor supports, that is what i had to do01:46
sJaMsudo echo "Hello World" > /dev/dsp01:46
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jonnnnskalpel, okay let me try01:46
sJaMdo you hear noise from the speaker ?01:46
CapSoftdoes that work sJaM ?01:47
Samuarmorning all01:47
CapSoftlol01:47
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trevihello Samuar01:47
sJaMwell it should give noise01:47
jonnnnskalpel, I can't find any section of Horizental ....etc01:47
CapSoftlol01:47
mevaghpermission denied01:47
CapSoftlsof /dev/dsp01:47
sJaMso even root havent permission to use the dsp device01:47
mevaghwait.. did sudo su then the command01:48
mevaghno noise01:48
skalpeljonnn: yes you jonnn: you have to add them in01:48
sJaMok01:48
skalpeljonnn: let me see what section they go under, hold on01:48
sJaMthen you havent the right driver I think01:48
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sJaMyou know the soundcard of it ?01:49
znhbah i'm forced to use aMSN, since Gaim gives reading errors after a while..01:49
jonnnnskalpel, if one change the monitor what he has to do reinstall the ubuntu?01:49
mevaghCrystal 4236b Audio01:49
jonnnn:)01:49
mevaghold onboard on a dell mobo01:49
skalpeljonnn: no, not at all. maybe just restart x-windows01:49
jonnnneven though i run the live cd on this system and it worked just fine for my vga and monitor but 1024X.. display resolution01:50
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sJaMyou should google to find the module for it01:50
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mevaghdid a google of the card and found a site about alsa which said all models of the crystal audio were supported01:50
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sJaMyes but you have to have the right driver in your kernel01:51
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Flying_Eagleis there a nvidia-wrapper (like in gentoo) available for ubuntu so i can play 32bit-games on my amd64?01:57
bob2make a chroot01:57
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bob2or, if yo ureally care, just use the i386 port01:57
puupihmmmmmm, i just installed ubuntu but it didnt boot to linux01:57
trevihi puupi01:58
puupibooted directly to windows01:58
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puupihi trevi01:58
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sJaMmevagh, I don't see your card at the alsa driver page (http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=All#matrix)01:58
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treviyou have windows in fist site to boot01:58
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trevipress esc when bootin'01:58
trevithen you can select the sistem that will run01:59
puupioh ok, thx :D01:59
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puupitesting01:59
puupibbl :01:59
puupiD01:59
mevaghfound a post on linuxqs for a CS4235 and did "modprobe snd-cs4236" works now :D thanks01:59
Jeocan someone help me? Im trying to install ubuntu on a amd machine with abit kg7 raid motherboard01:59
sJaMbut I can find 4236b01:59
sJaMyes01:59
sJaMI was just going to suggest that01:59
sJaMmodprobe cs423601:59
bob2mevagh: add snd-cs4326 to /etc/modules and it will load automatically on boot01:59
mevaghthanks, was just about to ask if i should do that02:00
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sJaMso you can put the esd deamon back on02:00
sJaMhehe02:00
eeblmmn02:00
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eeblstupid work02:01
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mevaghshould snd-cs4236 be on any particular line in /etc/modules?02:01
Jeocan someone help me? Im trying to install ubuntu on a amd machine with abit kg7 raid motherboard02:01
sJaMno02:01
sJaMjust on a line02:01
sJaMwithout a #02:01
sJaMon its own line02:01
eeblGOODNIGHT UBUNTUERS!02:01
znhnight crybaby02:02
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eeblznh: I cried happy rainbow tears02:02
bob2Jeo: just make sure you have "raid" etc disabled in the bios02:02
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Jeobut i want to use the raid, i have to harddisks02:03
Jeois it possible?02:03
Flying_Eaglebob2, thanks02:03
bob2Jeo: I'd be very surprised if your motherboard had a real raid controller02:04
mevaghthanks, night all..02:04
ed1thow do i format in gparted? i dont see format option in there02:04
Jeobob2: what do u mean by real? ive used raid under windows and it seemed to work fine.02:04
ed1tim on live cd right now02:05
Flying_Eaglewhere are they living? in which timezone are you going to bed now?02:05
bob2Jeo: yes, it's software raid02:05
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bob2Jeo: it's easier to just configure software rad in the ubuntu installer02:05
Jeobob2: but performance will be less?02:06
bob2no02:06
bob2it will be the same02:06
ed1thow do i format an ntfs drive?02:06
skalpeluse a hammer02:06
ed1tmkfs.ntfs /dev/sda1 ?02:06
CoffeeBreak1bob2: wrt kernel 2.6.10+ not present in hoary, what if I: get 2.6.11 or .12 official, install it from the console, go on with partitioning disk and installation, chroot, install kernel onto disk, update grub, reboot. That should work right?02:07
Flying_Eagle"<bob2> or, if yo ureally care, just use the i386 port" : do you mean, that 32bit-ubuntu is better even on a 64bit platform?02:07
skalpelhow can i change the name used by nullidentd?02:07
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ed1tbob2, can you tell me how to format an ntfs drive?>02:07
skalpelbob2: can you tell me why i am not using ubuntu64?02:07
Jeobob2: so u mean even if i put in bios to use harddisk 1 & 2 as  a raid 0 type raid. its still software raid?02:07
LokeDKToday when I booted, started gnome - it was looking all different hmm. http://loke.linux.dk/gnomemenu.jpg f.ex there's used to be a "border" around the selection in the menus, i haven't really done anything except I updated some ubuntu packages with the updatemanager02:08
bob2CoffeeBreak1: in theory, yeah02:08
jonnnnskalpel, thanks mate it worked :)02:08
bob2CoffeeBreak1: you'll have to do a lot of manual fiddling, tho02:08
skalpeljonnnn: you are welcome02:08
CoffeeBreak1bo02:08
bob2Flying_Eagle: no, it's not better, but it's less hassle if you want to run legacy i386 binary-only programs02:08
bob2ed1t: define format02:08
jonnnnskalpel, i'm not sure about if i added the correct hozisyn things for my monitor however resolution is fine now02:08
bob2skalpel: I have no idea why you chose not to install the amd64 port02:08
skalpeljonnnn: k, as long as it works02:08
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bob2Jeo: yes02:08
ed1tbob2, like delete all datas02:09
CoffeeBreak1bob2: that's OK. I am used to that. It's either that, or use suse :) Thanks. I will report to see if it worked02:09
ed1tdata*02:09
skalpelbob2: i am using an intel computer, does it matter?02:09
Flying_Eaglethe more hassle, the more you learn :)02:09
bob2Jeo: if it was actual hardware raid, linux and windows would only see one disk02:09
bob2CoffeeBreak1: cool, good luck02:09
bob2skalpel: define "intel computer"02:09
wimsIs there no flash plugin for mozilla that works with amd 64?02:09
ed1tbob2, its an ntfs drive, i wanna delete all data, format it02:09
Jeobob2 in windows i see only 1 disk02:09
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bob2ed1t: and put what on it? a fat32 filesystem?02:09
skalpelbob2: haha i mean a computer with an intel chipset. does that not make a difference?02:09
bob2skalpel: do you have a amd64-compatible CPU? ie em64t.02:10
jonnnnskalpel, is firefox 1.0.6 avaible via ubuntu repostiory?02:10
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bob2jonnnn: yes, it's in the hoary-security repository now02:10
skalpelbob2: i really do not know.02:10
jonnnnbob2, thanks mate02:10
apokryphosHow can you set the resolution/refresh-rate for the kdm/gdm login screen?02:10
ed1tbob2, put windows on it, so i need to have it as ntfs02:10
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ed1tbob2, i dont wanna change the partitition type of the drive....just delete all the data from it, leave it as ntfs partition02:11
jonnnnskalpel, what you say if one have to demonstrate ubuntu, whch wm he should go with gnome or KDE?02:11
jonnnni personally like kde :)02:11
skalpeli have used both and i prefer gnome02:11
ed1tjonnnn, gnome02:11
bob2skalpel: then you probably don't02:11
bob2jonnnn: np02:11
bob2apokryphos: by configure xorg.conf, but how much do you care?02:12
skalpeljonnnn: i used kubuntu first and then installed ubuntu, then i actually switched to the kde manager under ubuntu and immediately took it back, i hated it02:12
jonnnnhmm i'm wondering why Pat (slackware) drops gnome from his distro :)?02:12
skalpelbob2: guess not. so im okay with ubuntu 32?02:12
bob2ed1t: linux cannot create ntfs filesystems02:12
bob2skalpel: yes02:12
skalpelthank you02:12
bob2skalpel: "ubuntu i386"02:12
skalpelk02:12
apokryphosbob2: Noticed a lot of people in here ask, too; figured I could also document it on the Wiki02:12
bob2apokryphos: it's non-trivial and card nd monitor specific, unfortunately02:12
bob2it's basically a bug if X doesn't get it right autoatically02:12
ed1tbob2, how about fat32?02:12
bob2ed1t: mkfs.vfat02:13
ed1tthx02:13
jonnnnskalpel it mean you dont like kde?02:13
apokryphosbob2: Yeah, it doesn't. Have to set it to apply settings on KDE startup. It's just the refresh rate that it gets wrong, for me, actually.02:13
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Jeobob2: i see your point now thx =D02:14
skalpeljonnnn: i did, but then i used gnome, and now i do not =)02:14
apokryphosbob2: also means that when I logout, though, there's only a fixed portion of the screen shown (not the whole login screen)02:14
ed1tmkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)02:14
ed1t/dev/sda1: Permission denied02:14
ed1twhy did it say that?02:14
bob2apokryphos: ouch02:14
nightswimaer yuo root?02:14
bob2ed1t: you obviously need root permissions to poke at raw hard disks02:14
skalpeljonnnn: they both have their points, it is all about which you prefer02:14
bob2aka use sudo02:14
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jonnnnskalpel, right02:16
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jonnnnskalpel, i'm configureting this system to demonstrate "linux" to management02:17
traxas_hello, is there a way to tell the ubuntu installer program to use nv video driver? becouse it always chooses wrong video friver uppon install process and i can't see nothing..02:17
jonnnnwhat should you suggest me to do else?02:17
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djpdoes anyone know how to setup emacs to download from a pop server?02:19
bob2traxas_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:19
Amaranthwoo02:19
Amaranthphp5 is in breezy02:20
Belutzbob2: have you seen Seveas?02:20
Amaranthapache module and all02:20
bob2no02:20
traxas_bob2 no..i mean before the install process starts02:20
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BelutzAmaranth: i can get PHP 5 from this deb http://people.debian.org/~dexter php5 hoary02:20
bob2traxas_: you can't02:20
bob2not simply, anyway02:20
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traxas_:/02:21
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AmaranthBelutz: Sure, if you want an unofficial, unsupported package.02:21
traxas_well, thanx for answering02:21
bob2just install and fix it later02:21
bob2then file a bug02:21
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gypsymaurohello02:21
BelutzAmaranth: ic... is it ok to get packages from Breezy?02:21
bob2no02:22
AmaranthBelutz: Nope, that's worse than using the unofficial package. :)02:22
alex__Hello! I'm looking for a Linux's program like LC4. Does it exist?02:22
AmaranthBelutz: I'm just looking toward the future.02:22
bob2it'd be best to explain what LC4 is02:22
BelutzAmaranth: ic..02:22
alex__LC4 is a program for auditing password02:22
Jeobob2: just curios. There are to variants of my motherboard. One with raid and one without. Whats the difference between them? Is it just a sales trick?02:23
BelutzAmaranth: my solution is to compile the apache and php myself hehehe02:23
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salilquit02:23
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salillogoff02:23
salildisconnect02:23
AmaranthBelutz: Aye, that's what I did, even on RHEL.02:23
Amaranthsalil: /quit02:23
BelutzAmaranth: what's RHEL ?02:23
chaps0063I'm trying to configure minicom, how do I find out where my USB-to-Serial adapter is located in /dev/?02:23
AmaranthBelutz: Red Hat Enterprise Linux02:23
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alex__The LC4 can crack passwords from the SAM file of windows. Does exist a Linux's program like this?02:24
bob2alex__: yes, not in ubuntu02:24
BelutzAmaranth: ic ic... what i don't lie when using apache from package, i can't customize the path, it will go directly to /var/www02:24
Belutz*like02:24
bob2you don't need to crack it, anyway, you can just change it, trivially02:24
bob2chaps0063: look in /var/log/messages after you plug it in02:24
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bob2Jeo: more or less02:24
bob2Jeo: sometimes they have chiups to do some of the work02:25
Slipaway172how can i get in touch with the ubuntu development team02:25
bob2Slipaway172: for what?02:25
chaps0063thanks bob02:25
AmaranthBelutz: You're supposed to be putting things in ~/public_html like a real server. :)02:25
Slipaway172for advertisment02:25
bob2Slipaway172: advertisement?02:25
Slipaway172( asking for a friend)02:25
Amaranthbob2: An LC4 program wouldn't work with shadow passwords, would it?02:25
alex__bob2: i have to look it, i don't wanna change it. what does "yes, not in ubuntu" mean?02:26
chaps0063that was it bob2, thanks.02:26
sJaMI know something like02:26
sJaMJacktheripper02:26
BelutzAmaranth: yup... but i usually play in /www :D02:26
alex__sJaM: i've heard about it. is it good?02:26
bob2Amaranth: not directly, but can just keep hammering ssh with your guesses, and such02:26
sJaMdon't know02:26
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AmaranthThis stuff is usually illegal though so...02:26
alex__sJaM: okey.have you got a link?please send me in pv02:26
bob2alex__: then talk to #windows or such02:26
alex__bob2:okey02:27
sJaMjust google02:27
bob2compromising windows machines, while trivial, is off-topic here02:27
tankiAmaranth, not really illegal, just impolite02:27
alex__sJaM: thank you so much02:27
sJaMwell it is used to crack passwords02:27
bob2and maybe not even trivial these days02:27
sJaMusing dictionaries02:27
Amaranthtanki: No, using one of these to break into someone's machine is illegal.02:27
sJaMI thought02:27
Yagisa1alex__: Why do you want to look ?02:27
gypsymauroI need to set a specified password when I create an user in debian the useradd command has the param -p password that in ubuntu seems missing..any hint on how do this?02:27
alex__Yagisa1: what?02:27
chaps0063alex__: what is the problem?02:27
gypsymauro(in a script so I can't user passwd username:)02:27
Slipaway172nm, bob2 he wants to make a entire school ubuntu02:28
Amaranthbob2: As of I think Win2k3 none of these trivial SAM attacks work anymore.02:28
tankii read the other day a hacker broke into a known spammer's national database and deleted all his records hehe02:28
bob2gypsymauro: no, useradd has -p on ubuntu02:28
LokeDKis there a way to reset the themes? it's all skrewed up i think02:28
chaps0063tanki: did you also see about the spammer that got beat to death?02:28
bob2Slipaway172: info@canonical.com would love to hear about it02:28
tankiyeah the russian02:28
Slipaway172and wants to ask about that. i told him about the gpl and the new edubuntu02:28
alex__chaps0063: a problem? i've not a problem!02:28
chaps0063alex__: with windows..02:28
gypsymaurobob2: I can't see it... are u sure ? man useradd02:28
Yagisa1alex__: why do you want to look at the password ?02:28
sJaMgypsymauro, useradd is also in ubuntu02:28
bob2gypsymauro: yes, I do see it02:29
Belutzbob2: i just told my lecturer to change the OS in the comp lab from windows2000 to ubuntu hehehehe02:29
bob2gypsymauro: sure you're not mixing it up with adduer?02:29
bob2Belutz: hah02:29
tankichaps0063, they do things more progressive over there hehe02:29
Slipaway172bob2, thanks , i just forwarded the email to the person who wanted to know, thanks02:29
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bob2Slipaway172: np02:29
hondjehrm02:29
bob2gypsymauro: also, you realise that is highly insecure, right?02:29
hondjeis line 18 of hdparm.conf uncommented for anyone else by default/02:29
chaps0063tanki: yup...same in london...chasing a guy down only to shoot him...that would never happen in america.02:29
Belutzbob2: i want the whole student is get used to use linux... not just windows02:29
gypsymaurobob2: not of course , which version of ubuntu?02:29
hondjeyeah, we can shoot, no need to chase02:30
Amaranthchaps0063: No.02:30
Amaranthchaps0063: Don't.02:30
bob2gypsymauro: hoary.  I find it rather unlikely that it's been changed.02:30
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bob2Belutz: that would be good02:30
gypsymaurobob2: yes but is for an internal machine and just for fun :D02:30
chaps0063Belutz: I work in a school district, we can't even get a linux server.02:30
Jugani got everything working in Ubuntu...i'm a bit amazed.  it;s definitely better than fedora.  but i wonder...can i ever make my webcam work in ubuntu?02:30
chaps0063Amaranth: 10-4.02:30
znhDoes anyone know a MSN client (not Gaim/aMSN) ?02:30
Yagisa1Amaranth: Those trivial attacks still work on win2k3, they just require extra work02:30
tankichaps0063, heck i remember a few years ago two chinese citizens were caught hacking a bank to steal like 10 grand electronically and got sentenced to death, the judge let one of them go when the other offered to take the death penality02:30
bob2Jugan: does it have linux support at all?02:30
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tankicrazy stuff over there02:31
AmaranthGuys...02:31
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Belutzznh: gaim is good enought i think02:31
puupiim on ubuntu now :D02:31
chaps0063Amaranth: i '10-4'd you already, i get it.02:31
znhBelutz: gaim gives me reading errors after a while02:31
puupitho i have no idea how to use this thing02:31
puupihavent used linux before02:31
puupibut i wanna learn02:31
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micampeclick around02:31
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Belutzznh: ic... donno why, but i never encountered such problems02:31
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salilgood..02:32
Belutzpuupi: :D02:32
znhBelutz: that's why iam searching some other02:32
puupisomething is bothering me with this linux...how do i install things :D02:32
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salilcan anyone tell me.. if yahoo distribution is included in any of the repositories..??02:32
bob2puupi: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto02:32
Juganbob2: i dont know...it's not written in the box.  But im pretty positive that there's a way of making it work02:32
puupidownloaded some "binaries" and sources....how do i install those02:32
puupiok thx02:32
rkinderJugan: does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras help?02:32
salilpuupi: which linux distribution are you using..??02:32
Belutzznh: maybe u could try kopete, KDE messenger02:32
bob2puupi: you don't generally download random things like thta02:32
Juganrkinder: ill check it out...thanks02:33
znhBelutz: will do02:33
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salilno no.. dude.. i need yahoo. !!02:33
Belutzznh:  :)02:33
salilother wise.. even gaim is fine..02:33
puupiive got ubuntu02:33
Belutzsalil: yahoo messenger ?02:33
tankiAmaranth, you're in london?02:33
chaps0063tanki: just leave that discussion for else where.02:33
salilyes.. yaho messenger02:34
chaps0063tanki: its off topic.02:34
hondjeoooh, zimmerman is going to secure VoIP, that's some awesome news02:34
tankichaps0063, what did i say?02:34
chaps0063tanki: that is the point Amaranth was trying to make.02:34
chaps0063tanki: we got off topic..02:34
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julohi02:34
Belutzsalil: go to http://messenger.yahoo.com but i still recommend to use gaim02:34
chaps0063tanki: started talking about terrorism instead of sudo-ism ;-)02:34
salilreally..??02:34
juloIs there an ubuntu or debian package for pyscintilla available anywhere ?02:34
salilwhy's that.?02:34
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Amaranthhondje: mdz is doing that?02:35
tankichaps0063, who started talking about terrorism?02:35
Belutzsalil: yup... because yahoo messenger for linux is not as advanced as yahoo messenger for windows02:35
tankii'm lost but ok02:35
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tankii just asked if Amaranth was in london02:35
hondjeAmaranth: Phil Zimmerman, the PGP guy02:35
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Juganok given that i can make my webcam work, is there a messenger for ubuntu that can allow me to do video conferencing?02:35
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chaps0063nevermind, lets just drop it, Amaranth was trying to make a point earlier..02:35
Belutzsalil: i tried YM for linux and uninstall it again :p02:35
salilyes.. that i know.. but i've just recently started using ubuntu and i don't know what to do with the .DEB file..02:35
salilit opens up as an archive.02:36
chaps0063Amaranth: I am assuming that you were referring to the topic of discussion between tanki and I earlier, correct?02:36
hondjesalil: if you have a .deb, you can install it with dpkg -i <filename>02:36
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tankilet it go chaps02:36
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salilooh thanks hondje02:36
Belutzsalil: dpkg -i package.deb02:36
salilthanks.. guys.02:37
salilgot it now..02:37
salili'll try it out..02:37
MAPDedubuntu will rule :)02:37
Jugandoes yahoo for linux allow video conferencing?02:37
Belutzsalil: :) but i think you will go back to gaim02:37
hondjeJugan: no02:37
salilhey.. guys.. one more thing..02:37
BelutzJugan: no02:37
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salili did mount all my filesystems.. they're in FAT02:38
salilbut.. they open as readonly02:38
salilhow do i make them RW..??02:38
BelutzMAPD: yup... i hope they develop edubuntu for college and universities too :D02:38
MAPDyeah02:38
hondjesalil: edit /etc/fstab, and add 'rw' to options02:38
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MAPDhope so :)02:38
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salili'm already thinking of using gaim.. ;)02:38
hondjelike rw,user,auto or something02:39
duckiesynaptic to install your programs..... solves all the depen... in one go02:39
BelutzMAPD: if they do, i'll be gladly promote it.... hehehehe02:39
salilits.. not happening.. i did add RW.. to options.. but.. only the root user gets access..02:39
MAPDBelutz i want to add02:39
Belutzsalil: great :D hehehe02:39
MAPDubuntu to a school02:39
salili'm using in another username and i do not get access02:39
MAPDi wanted tyo promoted it02:39
MAPD:p02:39
hondjemaybe add umask=022 to the options02:39
hondjeI think that works with fat02:39
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salilwhat's that again..??02:39
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BelutzMAPD: great :D02:39
salilwhat does that mean..?02:40
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hondjemake your options column in /etc/fstab something like rw,user,auto,umask=022 I think02:40
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salilyou're not sure..??02:40
MAPDbob2 you there?02:40
hondjeI'm not sure what you want...if you want to change ownership to you personally, and no one else, I'd put in uid=<yours> instead of umask02:41
Belutz!mount02:41
uboturumour has it, mount is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:41
salilgreat.. that's what i was looking for.. ownership..02:41
salilso you put.. uid.. !!02:42
salillemme tr..02:42
saliltry02:42
hondjeah, in that case the options are uid=<yours>,gid=<yours>,rw,otheroptions02:42
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rkinderJugan: does gnomemeeting meet your requirements? (not messenger, but IIRC, has chat facilities)02:42
salilhow do i get my uid..?02:42
doctor_salviahows it going guys?02:42
hondjewith the 'id' command02:42
bob2MAPD: ?02:43
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hondjeif it's the default user, it'll be 100002:43
salilthanks..02:43
salilyes.. it is the default user..02:43
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salildo you think i should change it.>?02:43
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hondjeNo02:43
salilokay..02:43
MAPDbob2 i was the guy Slipaway172 was telling02:44
hondjeif that's the account you're using, that's what you should use...no security risk or anything02:44
uber_newbertheres this little popup on my taskbar that says 39 updates are available, what do i do?02:44
MAPDabout the school thing to contact ubuntus guys02:44
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hondjeuber_newber: click it? :)_02:44
marc``Hello02:44
bob2MAPD: ok02:44
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MAPDbob2 so infor@*02:44
marc``There are someone who talk french?02:44
MAPDwill work?02:44
uber_newberhonje. thanx02:44
salilits not working..02:44
hondjemarc``: /join #ubuntu-fr :)02:44
bob2MAPD: info@canonical.com02:44
salilits.. still locked..02:44
marc``thanks you very much02:44
marc``:)02:44
MAPDmarc`` je sus portugaise02:45
MAPD:X02:45
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hondjesalil: did you remount it?02:45
MAPDsuis02:45
MAPD:\02:45
bob2MAPD: it sounds like you want a corporate-y person more than a technical person02:45
salilyes.. i did..02:45
salili unmounted .. and then mounted..02:45
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salilbut.. its still locked..02:45
hondjehmm...can you post the line in #flood from the fstab file?02:45
MAPDbob2 explain02:45
bob2MAPD: ?02:45
salilsure..02:45
saliljust a sec02:45
MAPDbob2 i needed technical support02:46
MAPD:P02:46
MAPDhelp02:46
bob2MAPD: if you want to deploy ubuntu, you don't want to be talking to the people making packages for it, generally02:46
MAPDfrom them02:46
bob2MAPD: right, that address will be able to give you a quote, etc02:46
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hondjecan always get a pimp support contract from canonical02:46
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MAPDbob2 ok thanks02:47
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MAPDisnt there any place to get the dvd in iso02:48
oscars ghtre02:48
MAPDwithout being torrent?02:48
oscarsu56u52w6yut02:48
oscarsi4l ie78.;983ustrhyu,ktyjytl.jk eftqarwe234nhue,l u7346ki 6ul02:48
bob2sure...02:48
bob2oscars: ?02:48
MAPDwhats .jigdo02:48
MAPDand .manifest?02:48
Jugani tried to check the device manager and my digital camer is detected...it's identified as Generic Digital Camera and the vendor is Sunplus Technology...is there a chance I can make it work in ubuntu?02:48
MAPDi know now what .jigdo02:49
bob2the device manager will be pretty useless for finding that out02:49
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wijnandJugan: if not, get a cheap card reader and just take the photos from there02:49
oscars    derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr02:49
manfredhi!02:49
highvoltageis there a ubuntu kernel that supports hyperthreading?02:50
bob2highvoltage: sure02:50
bob2install linux-68602:50
highvoltageit only picks up 1 cpu though.02:50
hondjeWasn't HT disabled for that silly security thing?02:50
rkinderJugan: I think if the camera is detected fully, a dialog should pop up asking if you want to import the photos off the camera. At least this is what happens for my Fuji S5500.02:50
MAPDim a pentium M02:50
highvoltagei've installed it on a bunch of PC's and the hyperthreading doesn't seem to work (linux-686 package)02:50
MAPDshould i get a different ubuntu?02:50
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bob2highvoltage: in what way do you think it isn't working?02:51
highvoltagetop only shows one cpu (i did press '1'), and cat /proc/cpuinfo also only shows 1 cpu.02:51
wijnandhighvoltage: have you tried compiling your own kernel?02:51
highvoltagebob2: is there another way to test?02:51
highvoltagewijnand: yes, it works with my own kernel02:51
highvoltagewijnand: and with fedora core02:52
oscarswerrrrr02:52
oscarskjoyuhutgji aer02:52
oscarsj a tyset02:52
wijnandhighvoltage: so if i may ask, what is stopping you from using your own kernel?02:52
oscarssj tyse02:52
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rkinderhighvoltage: wasn't hyperthreading disabled by default in the kernel due to some highly improbable security hole with HT?02:52
wijnandoscars: i find you moderately annoying02:52
bob2highvoltage: you need a special boot option02:52
highvoltagewijnand: i need to install a big bunch of different machines, that won't be maintained by me, it needs to be an ubuntu kernel, if possible.02:52
hondjerkinder: that's what I thought02:52
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wijnandhighvoltage: yeah i understand02:52
highvoltagebob2: which option would that be?02:53
bob2highvoltage: ht=on02:53
bob2due to the securityu hole rkinder mentioned02:53
highvoltagebob2: cool, I'll try that.02:54
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hoslerAnyone know any good web proxies. I need one to browse the internet in this network.02:56
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pippijnhi all02:56
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pippijnwhat do I need to set up a mailserver?02:56
wijnandpippijn: kind of depends on what you want to do02:57
SirOracleHi, I am trying to get Ubuntu to work on my Dell D610 laptop, at first X dont start correctly, it just goes blank. I found this link that might help: http://home.comcast.net/~canez/d610/. But when I try to start install.sh to install/compile the driver it says: "Compiler is not available to compile modules, aborting...". How do i fix this? I dont have X (yet).02:57
MAPDbob2 whats the difference between i386 and i686?02:57
bob2pippijn: you need to a lot more specific about what you hope to do02:57
uber_newberhello all, umm my little system manager said i had 39 uppdates available so i clicked on it to install them then just now it gave me a warning sayiing that i am about to install software thats not authenticated. and it lets me select: NOT AUTHENTICATED or TO Be Upgraded. then at the bottom of the page it gives me the option of selecting this little box that says download package files only02:57
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wijnandSirOracle: apt-get the gcc compiler02:58
bob2MAPD: very little02:58
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bob2SirOracle: sudo aptitude install build-essential02:58
pippijnwell02:58
wijnandbob2: you'd hope it was more than very little02:58
Lonixhi all02:58
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bob2a few new opcodes, guaranteed FPU02:58
Lonixi have q02:58
MAPDbob2 where can i find information (and if will go download the iso cd image it only says i386) i have a pentium M02:58
uber_newbercan sum help me please02:59
bob2MAPD: get the i38602:59
ben_underscoreuber_newber, so what is the problem?02:59
pippijnwijnand, I want to be able to send a mail from some webmailer to pippijn@xinutec.mine.nu(my host) and look at it on my computer02:59
Lonixi can't login to my nis server02:59
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pippijnso rather than fetchmail from the webmailer I want to get it directly delivered to my host02:59
bob2pippijn: install postfix, select local delivery only02:59
wijnandpippijn: do you intend to use imap or pop3? :)02:59
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MAPDbob2 can you tell me where to find the difference pls?02:59
wijnandand also, go with bob202:59
bob2MAPD: there is no difference in this case03:00
pippijnbob2, but if it is local delivery only I can't send mails from my host right?03:00
bob2pippijn: correct03:00
Jeltehi there... i'm trying to repartition and format a 512 CF card using fdisk and mkfs.ext2, but it keeps ending up as 473MB...03:00
pippijnbob2, what will it help then?03:00
MAPDbob2 in which can i find the difference?03:00
Lonixcan u help me plz ?03:00
pippijnwijnand, pop303:00
wijnandpippijn: you can send using your isp's smtp server.. trust me, that is a more painless method than setting up your own03:01
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micampeJelte: a file system structure takes space, that's normal03:01
pippijnokay03:01
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pippijnwijnand, I do want a local mailbox though03:01
Jelteafter using mkfs.ext2 if i then use fdisk again, it doesn't see any partitions and it says  Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)03:01
wijnandyes but that is for receiving rather than sending mail03:01
pippijnnot fetch mails from the imap/pop server from elsewhere03:01
Jeltemicampe, that much space is normal?03:01
pippijnI want to receive mail03:01
wijnandyes03:01
Lonixanyone help me plz !03:01
wijnandso get postfix like bob2 said03:02
rkinderuber_newber: I get this message occasionally - not sure if it's an issue with the package signatures being out of sync. My usual solution is to wait a few hours and try again - things seem to eventually 'resolve' themselves.03:02
pippijnwijnand, with postfix I can receive mails to my local host from the internet?03:02
mjrJelte, also, there might be reserved blocks there, and the CF card is probably not 512000000 bytes, which also reduces the apparent size03:02
asfrawhat do you do when a program has chrashed and you want to stop it?03:02
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mjrs/not/not/03:02
mjrs/not//03:02
pippijnso if someone sends a mail to pippijn@xinutec.mine.nu i get it?03:02
wijnandpippijn: should, yes03:02
uber_newberrinder: so just wait a little while and instaal them little later03:03
mjrJelte, you can tune the reserved block count with tune2fs03:03
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Jeltemjr, according to fdisk the disk is 511934976 bytes...03:03
pippijnokay03:03
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Jeltemjr, is the reserved block for superuser or something?03:03
Jeltemjr, oh well, if its normal, i'll live with it ;-)03:04
mjrJelte, yes, for the superuser, and that byte count translates to 488 megabytes when calculated in 1024-byte kilos and 1024-kilo megs03:04
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mjrso that's already the bulk of the apparent loss03:04
lilliputI know it's not really the place but I wonder if some of you could test a bot msn: saycurebot@hotmail.com jabber: saycurebot@jabber.fr , this bot is based on alice AI and is part of Turing Machine project03:05
Jelteah yes...03:05
Jeltesneaky :-)03:05
pippijnwijnand, I did set up postfix but I can't receive mails03:05
Jeltethanks03:05
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Lonixi need your help03:06
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MAPDbye03:06
Lonixi can't to login to my NIS server03:07
ben_underscorebye kids03:07
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apokryphosHm, has no-one made a BreezyReleaseSchedule yet?03:08
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rkinderuber_newber: that's what I do - it seems to sort itself out eventually.03:10
hondjeanyone have ubuntu's default httpd.conf?03:11
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highvoltagehondje: you mean apache2.conf?03:11
lordfreakHIiiiiiiiiii03:11
lordfreakhow R U ?03:11
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tikka_Anyone want to discuss audio, namely my audigy 1? its detected but i am unable to select a sound device for output03:11
rkinderhondje: yes03:12
hondjehighvoltage: for 1.303:12
lordfreakSomeOne can help me with FlashPlayer plugin in Firefox???? obbiusly on Ubuntu03:12
hondjerkinder: could I talk you into emailing that to me at mynick@comcast.net?03:12
hondjelordfreak: sure, do you have the multiverse repository added?03:12
lordfreakhondje yes multiserve and universe03:13
Stateapt-get mozilla-flashplayer03:13
hondjelordfreak: okay, then should be sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree03:13
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skalpelhow do i use an .rpm in ubuntu?03:13
bob2skalpel: you don't, generally03:13
bob2weo: what is it?03:13
MortiBlack magic, pentagrams and rat's blood.03:13
pippijnskalpel, alien03:13
pippijninstall alien03:13
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lordfreakhondje State yes I install the plugin but the Flash files embeded in Webbrowser are not showing properly03:14
pippijnand read its manpage03:14
Belutztritium: hai :D how r u?03:14
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lordfreakHondje there are some parts missed03:14
tritiumhi Belutz.  Doing fine, thanks.  You?03:14
hondjelordfreak: like split in half?03:14
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Belutztritium: i'm great, thx... just submit my final project today :D do you work in purdue.edu ?03:15
lordfreakhondje... not like words,, or buttons not showeds03:15
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hondjelordfreak: do you have a link to an example?03:15
skalpelpippijn: i have alien installed, now what?03:15
Statehmm mine works03:15
pawitpalien -your rpm package-03:15
lordfreakyes I can Give you the link and My screenshoot03:15
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skalpelk03:15
tritiumBelutz, I just finished my Ph.D. here03:15
hondjeokay, that would be helpful lordfreak03:15
Belutztritium: wow... congratz :D03:15
skalpelis there a better slsk client than nicotine?03:15
asfrahi, can anybody help me here? I've used some hours now to install mplayer and xmms. But none of them plays either of my files. xxms just stops/chrashes when i'm trying to play mp3.  The same happens when I try to play movies with mplayer.03:15
lordfreakhttp://www.paucasals.com/03:15
tritiumBelutz, thanks :)03:15
pawitpthen dpkg -i -deb package generated-03:15
hondjetritium: nice, what fiedl?03:16
hondjeer, field03:16
skalpeli find the nicotine client to be very slow and full of buggy things.03:16
Belutztritium: what major your taking?03:16
lordfreakhttp://www.paucasals.com/          in this link the left menu was made with flash03:16
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Statelordfreak i installed flashplayer-mozilla with apt-get and it works03:16
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tritiumhondje, Belutz Electrical and Computer Engineering03:16
pippijnskallen, read the manpage03:16
hondjeyeah, that page works for me with flashplugin-nonfree03:16
hondjehow did you install flash, lordfreak ?03:17
Belutztritium: wow!!03:17
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hondje:)03:17
Jeobob2: Now ive disabled all riad, i dont even try do use software raid in the ubuntu install. And the installation program runs fine. The computer restarts, and when it should load the OS it just restarts over and over again. U got any aidea?03:17
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lordfreakhondje... in all ways  that I know03:17
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DanielCHello. How can I edit the System menu?03:17
hondjelordfreak: does flash work on other sites?03:17
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asfrawhen I start mplayer I get an error saying: ' new face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Pleae supply the text font file.'03:17
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hondje!smeg03:17
uboturumour has it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.03:17
lordfreakapt-get install flashplugin-nonfree03:17
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hondjeoh wait, smeg doesnt' do system menu does it?03:17
Amaranthnot yet03:18
DanielChondje: nope03:18
asfradoesn't sound to serious03:18
asfrado mplayer find the right codecs by it self?03:18
lordfreakapt-get install swf-flashplayer  --> or something like thak03:18
hondjebummer :-)03:18
Amaranthonly way to do that right now is by hand03:18
DanielCI don't mind editing config files by hand.03:18
bob2Jeo: eject the cd...03:18
DanielCI just need to know where the config file is :)03:18
Amaranthyou have to create config files by hand03:18
lordfreakhondje... I have installed too from Installer embeded into the Firefox webbrowser... :(03:18
Jeobob2: ive tried that03:18
hondjelordfreak: if flashplugin-nonfree didn't work, I don't know what to recommend, sorry03:18
lordfreakhondje and all the ways was wrong03:18
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DanielCAmaranth: Where can I find the config file?03:19
hondjeit works for me, so it's not on their end03:19
AmaranthDanielC: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/ good luck03:19
tritiumBelutz, thanks :)03:19
lordfreakhondje .... Ok thanks anyway03:19
DanielCAmaranth: thnks03:19
tritiumBelutz, what is your final project?  Where are you?03:20
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AmaranthDanielC: I've spent months learning this thing and have a multi-thousand line library to help me work with it. Good luck. :)03:20
Belutztritium: hmm Academic Information System for my campus, I'm in Indonesia03:20
tritiumthat's great, Belutz :)03:20
hondjeI want to get paid to lie and trick people03:20
hondjeSo I think I'll be a meteorologist03:20
skalpeli want to get payed to kill people03:20
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skalpeli think i will be a meteorologist too03:20
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hondje1) No performance expectations, 2) supercomputers03:21
Belutztritium: now, i'm applying to be an IT lecturer in my campus. I wish they hire me hehehe03:21
tritium:)03:21
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Belutz:)03:22
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skalpelis there any way to change the name nullidentd uses to identify me?03:23
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erchachehi03:23
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erchachei install ubuntu amd64 on a opteron 25203:23
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erchachebut when try to make a fdisk to /dev/sdb1 where is a sata driver.....fails?03:23
erchachea 32 bit problem?03:23
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mjrerchache, you want to fdisk sdb, not sdb103:24
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erchacheyeah03:26
erchacheincludes /dev/sda where are installed system :S03:26
erchachemjr03:26
mjrif you're trying to ask something, I don't get it03:26
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erchacheno is my reply :D03:28
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crudolph_HI, is there anyone using ubuntu in an NIS domain?03:28
hondjeerchache: si prefiere, hay #ubuntu-es, pueden ayudarse en espanol03:29
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Brammeis it thrue that Breezy has ALSA 1.0.9 ?03:29
hondje!info alsa breezy03:29
erchachehondje: si pero no hay nivel03:30
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Amaranth!info alsa-base breezy03:30
ubotualsa-base: (ALSA driver configuration files), section sound, is important. Version: 1.0.9b-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 121 kB, Installed size: 480 kB03:30
mucknertGreatings.03:30
AmaranthBramme: So, yes.03:30
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mucknertIs anyone in here able or willing to give me some hints on cups in Ubuntu? I'm kinda stuck with a problem there.03:31
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ZincXi have loads of songs on hdb03:32
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ZincXand its fat32 file system03:32
erchachewell03:32
ZincXi was wondering if i can make it work on my system03:32
godzirrahow do I get this package:  libc6-2.3.2.ds1-21.  Currently I have this one 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 and I'm trying to get bootsplash working with ubuntu.03:32
erchachei think fdisk fails on ubuntu amd6403:32
seliniumhow do i mount a slave drive, hdb1, how do i mount it? I have a folder /media/slave to connect it to, but what is the command?03:32
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mucknertselinium: mount /dev/hdb1 /media/slave03:33
ZincXhmm03:33
mucknertgodzirra: That's a debian-package. I'd recommend compiling from source.03:33
mucknertAnyway..03:33
Jeoseems like my hpt370 raid controller isnt compatible with grub, but maybe with lilo03:33
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mucknertJeo: apt-get install lilo ;)03:34
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seliniummucknert: Cheers i was doing it the other way around! DOH!03:34
Jeomucknert i cant even boot03:34
Jeo=)03:34
mucknertJeo: Ew.. Okay.03:34
godzirramucknert: ok.. compiling which... libc6 or bootsplash?03:35
ZincXmucknert, how do i unmount ?03:35
mucknertgodzirra: bootsplash.03:35
godzirraumount /dev/hdxx03:35
mucknertZincX: umount /path/of/mountpoint03:35
ZincXoiks03:35
godzirrathat works too03:35
mucknertgodzirra: Because compiling libc6 would be overkill. ;)03:35
godzirraI can imagine. ;)03:35
ZincXi dnt have to be root to mount .. rite?03:36
mucknertSo... does ANYONE know how to get my cups in Ubuntu to create the page_log file?03:36
pippijncan someone look if xinutec.mine.nu has an MX record?03:36
mucknertZincX: Usually not.03:36
godzirraI'm trying to find the bootsplash source and its not working well.03:36
godzirraahh found it.03:36
ZincXmount: only root can do that03:37
ZincXit says only root.. shit..03:37
tritiumZincX, use sudo03:37
ZincXwhats the command then ?03:37
ZincXsudo mount ?03:37
mucknertZincX: Yes.03:37
godzirracrap. no I Didnt.03:37
mucknertZincX: You can work around that by putting the device and the mountpoint into /etc/fstab.03:38
slask3ndoesnt _anyone_ know how i can make my usb webcam load after my souncard so ubuntu wont kid around and set the usb cam as an primary sounddevice instead of the soundcard.?!?03:38
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ZincXfstab is ?03:38
mucknertA file.03:38
slask3nZincX: /etc/fstab03:38
tritiumslask3n, try blacklisting the sound module for the webcam that you don't want loaded03:38
mucknertBlacklisting should work.03:39
stephankUh, what about system->admin->disks? I believe you can setup mounts from there...03:39
ZincXmount: mount point /etc/fstab is not a directory03:39
mucknert..03:39
rungehi is there good info on how to setup second nic in ubuntu? (is it just addning info to /etc/network/interfaces ?)03:39
slask3ntritium: but i need it to load so i can use the built-in microphone, but it must load after the soundcard..03:39
mucknertZincX: It's a file you edit. Look at the syntax and you understand what I mean.03:39
tritiumrunge, yes03:39
ZincXhmmm03:39
rungeok. thanks tritium :) (again!)03:40
tritiumslask3n, well, you can do the above, and then have a script load the module later in boot03:40
rekastephank: system->admin->disks?03:40
ZincXedit aen ?03:40
stephankreka: the menu item... atleast, it's here in breezy :B03:40
ZincXhmmm03:41
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ZincXso wat do i have to do to mount hdb103:41
ZincX/dev/hdb103:41
rekastephank: hehe....so that's why i can't see it03:41
cafuegostephank: hoary prolly doesn't have it.03:41
catolhcan i install *.rpm packages in ubuntu?03:41
stephankokay then :)03:41
slask3ntritium: i am a n00b, i dont even know how to block, and even less how to make a script load it afterwrds...03:41
cafuegocatolh: No. Convert them to .deb first, if there is no .deb available.03:41
rekacatolh: it should be avoided03:41
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catolhcafuego, with the "alien" cmd?03:41
cafuegocatolh: Indeed.03:41
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catolhcafuego, ok, thanks03:42
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black13how do you unset all the environment variables in the bash shell03:42
rekaconfirmation anyone?03:42
rkinderslask3n: I just put the module order explicitly in /etc/modules - solved a similar issue I had with a DVB card.03:42
hondjerkinder: thanks a lot, I appreciate it :)  Someone told me #ubuntu is logged on the web, so I get spam paranoid :)03:42
tritiumslask3n, to blacklist a module, append the module name to /etc/hotplug/blacklist03:42
cafuegoreka: Not really, with a conversion at least the package system knows about the files you installed.03:43
rkinderhondje: no worries.03:43
Jeobob": how do i choose to install lilo instead of grub when i install ubuntu?03:43
puupihow do i install macromedia flashplayer to 64 bit version of ubuntu03:43
rekablack13: editing ~/.bashrc perhaps?03:43
cafuegopuupi: No.03:43
cafuegopuupi: "Not"03:43
Jeobob2: how can i choose to install lilo instead of grub when i install ubuntu?03:43
rekacafuego: ah ... but that's why you use checkinstall :)03:43
tritiummorning, cafuego03:43
cafuegotritium: evenin'03:43
tritium:)03:43
puupicafuego? is it impossible?03:43
Jeoor anyone else03:44
cafuegopuupi: You can install it, but it will run badly. Best bet might be a 32bit chroot.03:44
black13reka i was thinking about env command03:44
ZincXmucknert, .. how do i need to edit this file ?03:44
slask3nrkinder: there are no sounddevices in /etc/modules03:44
cafuegowhen i say "run badly" I mean worse than normally.03:44
puupiok03:44
Jeohow can i choose to install lilo instead of grub when i install ubuntu?03:44
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apokryphoscafuego: aha! You're here =). I was wondering... is there a way to make ubotu display info on a *particular* passage when doing a !find {somepack} reveals multiple results?03:44
eminem_crazyhi03:44
mucknertZincX: "How"? Just with a normal editor. Vim, Nano, Kate..03:44
slask3nJeo: install with expert and youll choose lilo or grub03:45
rkinderslask3n: find out which modules are loaded for both the soundcard and the webcam - make sure the soundcard modules are put in /etc/modules before the webcam03:45
rekablack13: well what do you know... 'man env' shows --unset=NAME03:45
eminem_crazyguy03:45
ZincXgedit03:45
rkinderslask3n: ie you need to add the modules to /etc/modules.03:45
eminem_crazyplease help me03:45
cafuegoapokryphos: if it finds more, just ask for '!info <foo>'03:45
ZincXaaah.. i get it03:45
slask3nrkinder: the webcam module quickcam is loaded last according to the /etc/modules03:45
apokryphoscafuego: nice! Thanks. :)03:45
eminem_crazydisk boot ubuntu03:46
Jeoslask3n: thx (svensk?)03:46
rkinderslask3n: but make sure the usb sound device (I assume it's USB webcam) is loaded after the sound card as well03:46
eminem_crazyI not03:46
cafuegoapokryphos: You can also append the ubuntu version (ie: !info libc6 hoary vs. !info libc6 breezy)03:46
eminem_crazy???????///03:46
slask3nJeo: norsk :)03:46
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Jeoslask3n: ok =)03:46
slask3nJeo: men halvt svensk ;)03:46
eminem_crazydisk boot ubuntu03:46
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Jeoslask3n: hehe gott03:46
blackgblhi03:46
apokryphoscafuego: very handy. No use for packages.ubuntu.com now =)03:46
slask3n;)03:46
cafuegoapokryphos: indeed ;-)03:46
eminem_crazysomewhere disk boot ubuntu???????//03:46
rekaeminem_crazy: we don't understand jibberish...do you mean you can't boot?03:46
mucknerteminem_crazy: Maybe you should start asking in full and legible sentences. ;-)03:46
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cafuegoYou're asking a mad rapper to make sense? Hahaha!03:47
apokryphoscafuego: any other cool tricks like this I'm missing out on? :P03:47
black13reka crud env works with chroot i can make a chroot with almost empty env03:47
cafuegoapokryphos: Undoubtedly ;-)03:47
ZincXmucknert, what is pass ?03:47
mucknertcafuego: Yes. I know. I'm fighting windmills.03:47
apokryphosheh03:47
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mucknertZincX: For most peripheral stuff, you can use 003:48
cafuegoapokryphos: dstats, for instance03:48
mucknertcafuego?03:48
slask3nrkinder:  ide-cd, ide-disk, ide-generic, lp, mousedev, psmouse, sbp2, sr_mod, quickcam : this is the modules in order like its in /etc/modules.. but i dont know whats the soundcard and stuff03:48
eminem_crazythey somewhere has the record of boot of ubuntu  to give03:48
cafuegomucknert: You need to be dutch to get that one ;-)03:48
ZincXits not peripheral ..03:48
eminem_crazyplease03:48
apokryphosNice.03:48
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mucknertcafuego: Crazy dutch. :P03:48
mucknertSo..03:48
mucknertAgain.03:48
ZincXits a secondary hdd where ive got all my stuff03:48
ZincXso i can put 0 right ?03:48
highvoltagecrazy is someone calling themself hondje ;)03:48
rkinderslask3n: do an lsmod - you'll have to figure out  the sound card module to put at the top of the /etc/modules file.03:48
mucknertIs there any way, CUPS in Ubuntu will give me my page_log?03:48
cafuegoeminem_crazy: We do not understand your question.03:49
mucknertZincX: Yes.03:49
cafuegohighvoltage: As long as he fetches clogs...03:49
ZincXand then i save the file...03:49
catolhhow do i exit X completely?03:49
ZincXthen what?03:49
hondjeI should /nick snoodaard03:49
catolhi tried init 3, but it didnt work03:49
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smbhhey guys, how do I reconfigure x in 5.04?03:49
Jeoslask3n: suddenly i got a lot of options tochoose form ... like to many :PPPP03:49
eminem_crazydisk boot ubuntu03:49
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rkindercatolh: upgrade to breezy03:49
cafuegodpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg03:50
eminem_crazygive me03:50
cafuegorkinder: NO!03:50
catolhrkinder, is that really necesarry?03:50
smbhthanks03:50
cafuegocatolh: No, breezy is broken.03:50
catolhoh..03:50
rkindercatolh: just kidding - it will however kill your X server.03:50
eminem_crazyI want to install ubuntu in my PC more  I obtain to give boot for the compact disc.03:50
catolhcafuego, but, do you know how i exit X completely?03:50
rekasudo /etc/init.d gdm stop03:50
cafuegocatolh: ctl-alt-F1, login, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop03:50
rekathen ctrl+alt+backspace iirc03:50
catolhcafuego, thanks03:51
hondjeeminem_crazy: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/03:51
tritiumeminem_crazy, hard to be sure what you're asking, but perhaps you want to go into your BIOS settings and enable booting from CD03:51
slask3nJeo: can i PM you? and we can speak norwish? :P03:51
ZincXmucknert, i save this and then ?03:51
cafuegocatolh: if you don't want it to start at bootup, install rcconf and run 'sudo rcconf'.03:51
Jeoslask3n: sure03:51
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MartenHHow can I launch the filemanager from the terminal?03:51
eminem_crazyi'm brasilian03:51
mucknertZincX: After a reboot (reparsing fstab), you will be able to mount this medium without being root.03:51
eminem_crazyno talk03:51
mucknertZincX: If you did it right, of course. :)03:51
cafuegoeminem_crazy: if you have an install cd, make sure the pc will boot from the CD. Check the bios.03:52
eminem_crazygreat english03:52
cafuego!br03:52
ubotucafuego: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about03:52
apokryphoscafuego: oh, another question. How can you make him give a certain reply to a particular message? Without like x is at http://y.com03:52
rekaMartenH: nautilus03:52
cafuego!pt03:52
ubotucafuego: Are you smoking crack?03:52
cafuegodammit03:52
ZincXmucknert, k ... lemme try03:52
cafuego.j ubuntu-#br03:52
cafuegonothing...03:52
mucknertubuntu-#de03:52
MartenHreka: ty03:52
hondjeeminem_crazy: #ubuntu-pt03:52
mucknertEr.03:52
mucknert*sheesh*03:52
hondjeoh hey, a -br!03:52
ZincXk.. beb03:52
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eminem_crazye exempts me of bad windowns03:53
asfraJeo: u can choose it when installing03:53
eminem_crazykkkkkkkk03:53
eminem_crazywindownsgarbage03:53
cafuego!br03:53
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues.03:53
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eminem_crazyalquem fala portuques ai???03:54
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cafuegonao falo portugues03:54
bob2eminem_crazy: try #ubuntu-br03:54
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godzirramucknert: Well... the bootsplash howto I'm reading had me do some stuff, and I get a framebuffer in my consoel now (i.e. console is 1024x768 instead of 640x480 on my laptop) but no boot image actually shows up.03:55
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mucknertgodzirra: AFAIR, you need to patch the kernel, too.03:55
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mucknerterm.. AFAIK.03:56
godzirraI did,.03:56
mucknertgodzirra: Because, at least in hoary, there is no patch in the "normal" Kernelimages.03:56
godzirrawith the patch from bootsplash.de03:56
mucknertOh.03:56
mucknertI see.03:56
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mucknertYou need to recompile it, too. ;=03:56
mucknert;)03:56
godzirraI did that too :)03:56
godzirraoh crap.03:56
godzirraI did recompile it...03:56
godzirrathen ignored it. :p03:56
godzirraand booted the original kernel03:56
godzirralol03:56
mucknertHeh.03:56
mucknertWell.03:57
godzirrahow do I make an initrd image for the new kernel I made?03:57
mucknertThere you got your problem. ;)03:57
godzirra:)03:57
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mucknertI always compiled initrd support out of my kernel.03:57
godzirraWell, I need it for bootsplash03:57
neoliminalhello world03:57
godzirraThere are so many geeky things I can say... but I just wont.03:58
apokryphosdocument.write("Hello World")03:58
apokryphosneoliminal: hi :)03:58
godzirraecho "Hello world"03:58
rkinderneoliminal: hi03:58
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neoliminalMy question involves laptops.03:58
black13has anyone build an ubuntu chroot on different system say gentoo or mandrake?03:58
godzirraugh. run away.03:58
neoliminalanyone interested?03:58
godzirraneoliminal: just ask.03:58
ZincXit said there was no mount point03:58
ZincXhow do i creat mount point ?03:58
godzirraneoliminal: don't ask if you can ask.03:58
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apokryphosneoliminal: ask, and you'll see.03:58
godzirraZincX: mkdir mountpoint03:59
neoliminalOk, Mine died.  I want a new.  What is the best value laptop for ubuntu?03:59
godzirraoh.03:59
ZincXgodzirra, as in mkdir /media/xtras ?03:59
godzirrasure, if thats the directories you want.03:59
ZincXk03:59
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HWolfneoliminal: just get yourself one of the big makes. HP/ibm/dell/toshiba. ubuntu is working to make sure they work on all recent major vendor laptops04:00
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rkinderneoliminal: don't know about value, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops is definitely worth browsing through...04:00
godzirraI'd suggest not going with sony.04:00
godzirraI have one and its kind of a pain in the ass.04:00
neoliminalrkinder: thank you04:00
ZincXgodzirra, so if the file system of hdb1 is fat32 .. then ill have to put that as the file system right ?04:00
rekagodzirra: but it's purdy-looking04:00
godzirraI had an ibm and I absolutely loved it.04:01
asfracan anybody help med play mp3's?04:01
neoliminalgodzirra: I agree04:01
godzirrareka: heh. yes it is.04:01
rkinderneoliminal: if it helps, I'm running a T40 with little issues (wireless Cisco card even works), hibernate works out of the box, just can't seem to get the pesky IR port working...04:01
HWolfgodzirra: ibm rocks, expensive tho...04:01
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godzirraMy thinkpad was great, and I had a dell and it was great too.04:01
godzirraHWolf: yeah.. there's always a price for quality.04:01
rkinderThinkpad: avoid T3X models like the plague04:01
godzirraI'd stay away from compaq and I never really liked toshiba either.04:01
HWolfgodzirra: well, ibm doesn't produce it's own laptops. You're buying support and slightly better casing, perhaps04:01
Sp4rKyhi04:01
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rkinderI had 7 T30's before I gave up and went to a T4004:01
neoliminalI know I'm an weirddo, but I was hoping for something *without* a touch pad.04:01
rekagodzirra: yes, i've read much of the same ... ibm are reliable albeit expensive, sony are "shiny" yet apparently problematic.04:02
rekagodzirra: thoughts on hp and dell?04:02
HWolfneoliminal: try to stay away from anything with an integrated ati gpu too.04:02
rkinderneoliminal: touchpads give me the shits too. I'm sure they can be disabled in the X config though???04:02
neoliminalthe machine that just died was an IMB T2304:02
Slipaway172does ubuntu support the portuguese language ?04:02
godzirraI'm fine with hp as long as its not really a compaq that says "Hp" on it.  I had a dell for about 4 years and I loved it.04:02
paulproteusSlipaway172: I think so.04:02
HWolfSlipaway172: it should04:02
rkinderT23 - good vintage that.04:02
cafuegoreka: Both are cheap, but that doesn't make "good value".04:02
godzirraI avoid compaq like the plague.04:02
HWolfme too04:02
HWolf:)04:02
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cafuegoI have 4 dead Dells that say avoid Dell.04:02
Slipaway172thanks, im asking that question for a friend04:03
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rekacafuego: interesting04:03
neoliminalrkinder: HD died for the second time.04:03
neoliminalover heating04:03
godzirraActually.. I met unknowingly walk into a city where people have the plague... I go out of my way to make sure that any computer I buy isn't a compaq :)_04:03
Slipaway172cafuego, lol04:03
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godzirraI'm saving up for a new one.. I want a nice ibook.04:03
godzirras/met/might/04:03
neoliminalI have about $1000 to spend04:03
cafuegoif you don't want Ubuntu I'd say get a 12" iBook04:03
godzirragod I'm horible today.04:03
rkinderneoliminal: how old was the machine though - must be a few years old now...04:03
Slipaway172ive only had a bad cpu, mobo, hdd04:03
godzirraneoliminal: ARE you set on an x86 box?04:03
HWolfcafuego: I've got a dell 24" monitor that says dell rules. :)04:03
godzirraHWolf: its really sony :)04:03
Slipaway172and video card04:03
neoliminalrkinder:very old04:03
godzirraall dell's monitors are.04:03
HWolfgodzirra: it's samsung. ;)04:04
cafuegoHWolf: That's just a rebadged trinitron. Gateway and Apple had those too.04:04
Jeoim happy with mine 21" dell04:04
Jeo=)04:04
godzirraneoliminal: are you set on an "intel" box actually is a better question.04:04
godzirraHWolf: ahh... I thought they were still all sony.  Mine is :)04:04
godzirraI only have a 21" though04:04
HWolfgodzirra: it's tft04:04
godzirratft?04:04
rekagodzirra: *cough* aren't apple moving to intel?04:04
neoliminalwell if Party Poker had a mac client... I'd be all over a mac04:04
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godzirraI know I should know what that means, but I dont remember.04:04
godzirrareka: Yeah... thats why I need to buy one soon :)04:04
HWolfgodzirra: flatpanel04:05
godzirraah ok04:05
godzirralcd?04:05
HWolfreka: right, they're moving04:05
HWolfgodzirra: yup04:05
godzirraDamn.04:05
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godzirraWanna be my sugardaddy?  lol04:05
neoliminalI can't seem to find a dell laptop without a touchpad.04:05
godzirraI wish I could afford a 24" lcd.04:05
neoliminalare IBM the only ones that make laptops without touchpads?04:05
HWolfgodzirra: they had a killer deal here. Like 40% off.04:05
Slipaway172hell, i just want a lcd of any size04:05
HWolfgodzirra: so I raided my savings04:05
cafuegoneoliminal: Some Toshibas also don't have touchpads.04:06
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neoliminalcafuego: are they ok with ubuntu?04:06
cafuegoneoliminal: Should be.04:06
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cafuegoneoliminal: They're not cheap, though.04:06
MartenHIs it possible to change the log-in screen for ubuntu? The background I mean...04:06
neoliminalit's odd that I want to REMOVE a touchpad and it's going to cost more.04:06
HrdwrBoBcafuego: they are relatively cheap04:06
HrdwrBoBcafuego: you can get them for $1400AU04:06
pete_rookie question: somehow my gnome bar (with shortcut icons) has moved from across the top to down the left, and the icons are 10 times larger. Does anyone know how to reset?04:07
HWolfMartenH: you're looking for a gdm theme04:07
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: What brand new toshibas?04:07
HrdwrBoBcafuego: sorry, missed it, I was referring to 24" LCDs04:07
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cafuegoHrdwrBoB: <heh>04:07
MartenHHWolf: ok, wil llook into that, ty04:07
ZincXno luck04:07
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ZincXcouldnt mount in a way i cud use04:07
HrdwrBoBI hate touchpads though04:07
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HWolfHrdwrBoB: i paid eur80004:08
rekapete_: right-click on the panel > properties ... if you can't find an empty space, delete an icon (you can add it back later)04:08
HrdwrBoBpete_: right click on the panel, property04:08
rekahehe04:08
HrdwrBoBHWolf: yeah04:08
HWolfcafuego: for a minute, I thought you where crackin'04:08
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cafuegoThe buttons on the touchpad on HPs didn't sued to be particularly nice, dunno if that's changed.04:08
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ZincXsome one help me04:08
ZincX:S04:09
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cafuegoneoliminal: Mst touchpads can be switched off.04:09
pete_thanks guys - it was the 'deleting' part that did it.04:09
hondje!resolution04:09
cafuegoneoliminal: and ALL laptops with USb can use a mouse or trackball.04:09
uboturesolution is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:09
pete_..I couldn't figure out how to reset the props04:09
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rekapete_: *nods*  weird glitch that one...04:10
rekahondje: who was that for?04:10
MartenHI added a line to ~/.bashrc but it doesn't run until I have opened a terminal window, I need the line run as soon as I log in...?04:11
hondjereka: for me, couldn't remember what the link was for the wiki page I'm working on :)04:11
pete_reka: it was beginning to get very frustrating too.04:11
reka*chuckle*04:11
rekapete_: i can imagine...at least you weren't laughed at like the first guy i saw who had that ...we were convinced it was *his* fault for getting it that way :)04:12
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rekaMartenH: it wouldn't ... the terminal doesn't normally run at startup04:12
rekaMartenH: sys > prefs > sessions > startup progs04:13
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LokeDKis there a way to undo a upgrade?04:13
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rekahondje: nice...you're maintaining that wiki page?04:13
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neoliminaljust got off the phone with toshiba, they don't have any laptops without touchpads.04:14
catolhI just read the linux binaries for Doom 3 is out. Where can i obtain them? I have a bought windows version of the game, can i get the linux version also?04:14
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MartenHreka: ok, ty04:14
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hondjeNo, but I'm adding stuff to the nvidia tv-out page and linked back to it for setting up the vert/horiz stuff for monitors04:14
rekaah04:14
hondjecatolh: on id's website, google for 'doom3 linux installer'04:14
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MartenHawsome, it's working! I'm even staring to forgive Ubuntu for not letting me use WPA :)04:16
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crudolph_Is there anyone, who has NIS at work?04:17
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seliniumDoes any one know what user mysqld runs under?04:17
xcesesok super newb question im new to linux so please dont flame me, how do you connect to telnet from the gnome desktop in ubuntu04:17
Nermalmysql04:17
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hondjexceses: open a terminal under applications -> system tools04:17
hondjethen 'telnet <hostname> <port>' ... and of course telnet is bad, etc etc04:18
xcesesok thx04:18
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vafnordwhat is the preferred method for installing software frpm .rpm files?04:18
HrdwrBoBfind it in deb04:18
phixionrpm -Uhv filename.rpm04:18
HrdwrBoB:)04:18
HrdwrBoBvafnord: what software04:18
mucknertFind a deb, indeed.04:18
vafnordi would if i could04:18
HrdwrBoBvafnord: what software04:19
vafnordemusic download manager04:19
mucknertYou can still try out alien.04:19
vafnordi've used alien but i've heard it's not good04:19
mucknertIt's usable enough.04:19
apokryphosvafnord: for smaller apps it generally does the job04:19
gangaleewhen booting, what tells the system where the filesystems are?04:20
mucknertgangalee: /etc/fstab04:20
vafnordtrue, i was just trying to find out if there was a better way04:20
gangaleebefore it reaches /etc/inittab04:20
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hondjegrub does04:20
apokryphos /boot/grub/menu.lst for the GRUB stuff04:20
uber_newbercan sum1 help me out please, i think iv insstalled my lynksis wireless b usb network adapter, but im not sure. when i go into networking my wlan0 is bolded and lit up but it says its not active, so i activeate it and plug my dsl cable into my router so i can test it to see if it works but it dosent :(04:20
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vafnordwhat about installing from tar.gz?04:22
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black13how do i unset all the environment variables04:22
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rekavafnord: extract the files, then use checkinstall to create a .deb file which you can then use dpkg to install04:23
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uber_newbercan sum1 help me out please, i think iv insstalled my lynksis wireless b usb network adapter, but im not sure. when i go into networking my wlan0 is bolded and lit up but it says its not active, so i activeate it and plug my dsl cable into my router so i can test it to see if it works but it dosent :(   maybe theres sumthing i still have to configure, i dunno04:24
MartenHThe three Quicklaunch buttons at the top (Fiefix,Evolution and help) How can I add/remove to those?04:24
vafnordreka: ah, sweet, thanks04:24
ggellerWhere should I look for the source code that was used to build the xserver-xorg package?  I'm trying to build a unichrome 3D driver as outlined in http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=26963&group_id=102048.04:24
reka!smeg04:24
ubotusmeg is, like, a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.04:24
rekaMartenH: there you go04:25
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MartenHreka: ty04:25
Amaranthggeller: apt-get source xorg04:25
Amaranthggeller: and good luck04:25
ggellerAmaranth:  Thanks.04:25
rekaMartenH: actually ...those are icons04:25
godzirraok...so back to my original question04:25
rekaMartenH: right-click > delete to remove04:25
godzirrahow do I make an initrd for the new kernel I've created.04:26
zodeHow can i find out in which device my mouse is connected to? I mean, im configurin ATI driver and now it says "Now give the full device name that the mouse is connected to"04:26
rekaMartenH: and drag from menu to add04:26
MartenHoh ok, simple enough :)04:26
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Amaranthgodzirra: make-kpkg does all of that for you04:26
MartenHI guess smeg allows me to edit the menus themself04:26
godzirraAmaranth: it didnt make an initrd for me.04:26
rekaMartenH: right04:26
godzirraOR if it did it didnt place it in /boot04:26
rekaMartenH: gnome doesn't have a default menu editor unfortunately...04:27
hondjenow that thar is one nice wikipage04:27
gangaleeI moved my /etc to a new partition the wrong way, now the system won't boot because it can't find /etc/inittab. I looked in /boot/grub/ but can't find where I need to make the change04:27
Amaranthhondje: ?04:27
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hondjeAmaranth: I added a bunch of stuff to the nvidia tvout one04:28
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black13how do i start bash almost no env variables04:28
Amaranthgodzirra: man make-kpkg04:28
Amaranthgodzirra: look for --initrd04:29
Dr_Willis'almost' ?04:29
black13none then04:29
hondjeenv -i?04:29
godzirrathanks04:29
black13hondje that is what i read04:29
black13how do i use env -i04:29
Amaranthenv -i <command>04:29
godzirrahow do I check if I have the initrd cramfs patch?04:29
MartenHreka: ok, good to know04:30
godzirraor does the ubuntu souces have it automatically?04:30
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black13env -i bash ... possible set my own environment up?04:31
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godzirraAmaranth: any idea?04:31
Amaranthgodzirra: nope04:31
hondjewhat are you trying to accomplish, black13 ? What's the end goal04:31
catolhanyone have any experience with point2play and ATI cards?.. :s04:31
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Dr_Williscatolh,  its proberly more of a 'cedega' issue - not Point2play. :P  since P2P is just a fancy front end04:32
catolhDr_Willis, well, yeah.04:32
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catolhBut, im guessing its a ATI issue.. :p04:32
black13hondje i want my environment varible to be exactly as i define them04:32
Dr_Williswell yea - ati IS an issue with cedega and wine. :P04:32
catolhseems the drivers are kind of.. shitty04:32
Dr_Williscatolh,  ya got that right.04:32
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black13bash inherits shell varibles from the shell that started it i want ot unset that04:33
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catolhi bet i could get more performance with my good old Geforce mx 440 SE.. than my Sapphire Ati Radeon 9600 xt04:33
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hondjeWhy not just edit /etc/bash.bashrc?04:33
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hondjeer, or profile04:33
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black13hondje i think your close i can say to use a specific profile though04:34
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uber_newbercan sum1 help me out please, i think iv insstalled my lynksis wireless b usb network adapter, but im not sure. when i go into networking my wlan0 is bolded and lit up but it says its not active, so i activeate it and plug my dsl cable into my router so i can test it to see if it works but it dosent :(   maybe theres sumthing i still have to configure, i dunno04:34
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hondjeif it's just that your'e weird, you can add a bunch of export lines in your .bashrc04:34
madclickerI need an installer with 2.6.12 kernel04:34
black13hondje i have program that requires a specific set of env variables ...04:35
vader1102bob2: I did the web upgrade to Hoary last night and had no problems.... all I had to do was follow the instructions on that url you gave me...Thank you04:35
bob2vader1102: np04:36
hondjeblack13: ah, okay...I deal with that all the time. If it has a start up script, it's easier to set the variables in that, if not you can be lazy and just add an alias04:36
rekacatolh: what probs are you having?  just poor performance?04:36
vader1102it works better than warty ever did04:36
catolhreka, problems? uhm.. stuff not starting at all04:36
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kemikcatolh:  thats a feature ;)04:37
catolhreka, using newest version of point2play and cedega04:37
catolhreka, and i went through the BinaryDriverHowTo for the ATI driver..04:37
kemikcatolh:  the stuff you try to run, worked for anyone else?04:37
joachimdoes anyone here use gFTP? what does the Resume option mean when I get a file clash?04:37
catolhkemik, yep04:37
rekaah. nvm then ... i doubt i'd be able to help04:37
MechanixxWow. Lots of people here.04:37
catolhkemik, stuff like Guildwars04:37
hondjehttp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/docs/linux-doc-project/mail_archives/ldp-discuss/msg02335.html04:37
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hondjethat's neat, checks your bookmarks for 404s and the like04:38
kemikcatolh:  ok.. i've tried wine mostly, so probably cant help with cedega..  :/04:38
catolhkemik, ok. But are you using a ATI card?04:38
kemikcatolh:  yes04:39
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catolhkemik, how did you install them?  :S04:39
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kemikfglrx you mean ?04:39
kemik(wine doesnt install 3d accelerated support)04:39
catolhoh04:39
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catolhoh well.. :p04:40
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kemikcatolh:  but you got fglrx working ?04:40
catolhyeah04:40
catolhgetting like 1500-2000 fps in glxgears04:41
kemiki get around 1000 with my radeon 9600 :/04:41
kemikwhat card do you have?04:41
mjrglxgears is not a benchmark, by the way04:41
MechanixxHey. When my second normal user (which I created a few days after install) tries to connect things like USB drives they don't have permission. But with my first normal user (the one I created during the install) it's no problem. Anyone know what I can do?04:41
kemikmjr: its a good pointer04:41
knudsen_Hello. I have stored a password in the so called "gnome keyring". Can anybody tell me how to remove this password again? I cannot see how to get access to the keyring...04:42
rekaMechanixx: need to add them to the sudoer's list04:43
reka!rootsudo04:43
ubotumethinks rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:43
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mjrknudsen_, gnome-keyring-manager04:43
mjrknudsen_, I'm not sure if it's installed by default04:43
knudsen_mjr: Thanks. It's not default here.04:43
Mechanixxreka: Not too get too far ahead of myself, but will this require them to enter a password? Because I don't have to enter anything with my first normal user.04:44
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djp!dma04:44
rekahmm, not sure about that actually...can someone confirm i was on the right track?04:44
tritiumMechanixx, just add the user to the "admin:" group, and he/she will have sudo priveleges.04:45
tritiumadmin even04:45
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MechanixxOooh. How interesting.04:46
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Mechanixx/etc/group actually has: plugdev:x:46:adam,hal04:47
Mechanixxadam is my first normal user, but I don't know who hal is, but me a system thing. Heh.04:47
Mechanixxmebe04:47
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scanwinderwhats the command to list all the process running? (i forgot it)04:48
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nophixps aux04:48
MechanixxI'm going to have to try this, but if all I have to do is add a user to the specific group to give them permissions for certain tasks, well.. it's refreshing to see a distro use the power of groups more effectively.04:49
elshaerm, im just looking at some documentation atm for installing ubuntu 4.10, is it the same as for 5.04?04:50
MechanixxThough maybe debian does, I dunno, never used debian. Heh.04:50
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rekaelsha: not sure what you mean, but hoary (5.04) is the latest stable release of ubuntu ... warty (4.10), was the previous release.04:51
harry#ubuntu04:52
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black13hondje i think i have answer to my debootstrap question04:52
black13the environment variables04:52
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catolhAnything i install as root can be used by users right?04:52
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sJaMwell not everything04:53
sJaMbut most of it catolh04:53
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catolhlike, if i install the doom3 binaries with "sudo" .. then i can run it without sudo right?04:53
black13catolh look up setuid04:53
sJaMyes04:53
catolhOk.. thanks :)04:53
sJaMbut04:53
sJaMit is better04:53
sJaMto do a04:53
sJaMsudo -i04:53
sJaMand then install the doom3 binaries04:53
Whistleris breezy out ?04:53
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sJaMsudo -i gives a root terminal04:54
Whistleror still in beta?04:54
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sJaMbreezy is in beta04:54
Whistleroh04:55
black13sJaM i have a similar question i want to run startx as a non-root user04:55
elshaI have an ubuntu installation cd here, for an intel x86, but im running on a amd64, reckon it'd still work fine?04:55
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Crafty-Catcherwhen is breezy planed to be released04:56
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reka!breezy04:56
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rekaweird04:56
reka"[breezy]  will be the next version of Ubuntu (5.10). It will be released on october 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. If you want to know what the main differences are between Breezy and Hoary, see http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/"04:57
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mjrelsha, it will work, though will obviously only run in 32-bit mode04:58
sJaMblack13, startx can be runned as non-root user04:58
catolhwow, doom3 really was crappy in linux with my ATI card :s04:58
sJaMit is discouraged to use startx as root user04:58
elshameh, grr. i'll just download the amd64 one then04:58
sJaMactually04:58
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elshaman, im having a really crappy day with shit not liking each other on my computer04:59
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neoliminalany experience with ubuntu on Gateway M250X05:00
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godzirraAnyone have experience with bootsplash?  I installed it in my kernel, recompiled the kernel, and made the initrd image etc, but when I reboot, I get little weird lines at the top of my screen, and no bootsplash like its supposed to.05:01
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skalpelbyebyeboris05:03
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metalhenhi. I'm looking for tetex3 for ubuntu. It is now in debian sid, but there seems no source for it in ubuntu right now?05:03
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ddaaOpen firefox, go to ubuntu.com, click on the wiki tab on the web page. In the certificate dialog, press down arrow key. Crash. I never experienced this behaviour before the recent upgrade. Is that a known problem?05:04
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vaniajoin windows05:04
ddaamhhh05:04
neoliminalcna someone point me to a ubuntu wiki on HD size requirements for ubuntu?05:04
astunmarxi'm a greenhorn in ubuntu. I've starred the irc-channel without knowing, where I'm spelling. How I can run the Mutt e-mail program05:04
ddaabah... demo effect, cannot reproduce anymore :(05:04
rekametalhen: is tetex-bin good enough for your LaTeX needs?05:04
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rekaneoliminal: [off the packaging] : 350 minimal install, 1,8 typical05:05
neoliminalI want to put ubuntu on a USB drive and I need to know how big to get.05:05
kangaroodyhuhu! jemand da?05:06
neoliminalso a 2 gig USB drive should be fine?05:06
metalhenreka: I have tetex-bin etc, in version 2.x   there now is tetex distribution in version 3 .. I#m searching v3 because it has much more new packages05:06
Kyralastunmarx, sudo apt-get install mutt?05:06
rekaneoliminal: if you trust the packagin, yes :)05:06
neoliminalhahaha05:06
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rekametalhen: i see05:06
neoliminalreka: thanks05:06
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lokulinkangaroody: more than enough I recon05:06
neoliminalIt seems to get bigger everytime I look around.05:06
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metalhenand I thing downloading debian sid debs and dpkg -i them into kubuntu will not be a good idea05:07
kyncanimetalhen: you'll have to wait for breezy i think05:08
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Kyralmetalhen, you can always ask for it to be backported05:08
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rekametalhen: yes, afaik, it's a bad idea to mix debian with ubuntu05:09
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metalhenKyral, backport would be nice :)  I guess there is nothing like backports.org for ubuntu? ;)05:09
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Kyraloh, v2 of TeTex is in Breezy, isn't available for backporting05:10
Kyral!backports05:10
uboturumour has it, backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted05:10
astunmarxPerhaps an answer to "Kyral": I questioned in a different meanin'. The synaptic-program gives the messages that mutt is actually installed.05:10
black13hondje still here05:10
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Kyralastunmarx, then I dunno how to use Mutt05:10
Kyralastunmarx, try man mutt on the command line05:11
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astunmarxI forgot to report this. I tried it many times, but it does'nt take any effect. And what means "dunno"05:12
Kyralastunmarx, slang for Don't Know05:13
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metalhenhm. no backport? that's bad.  Now I'm running ubuntu i find again reasons for using debian sid again :/05:15
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Kyralmetalhen, you can try posting a request on the Ubuntu Backports Forum at www.ubuntuforums.org05:16
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black13i can build an ubuntu chroot on mandrake05:18
KyralI don't know, can you? I have never tried05:18
mjrblack13, sure05:18
black13i can i am sayin i just figureed it out05:18
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black13its the environment variables that kill you05:19
mjrah, right, my bad05:19
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userusermetalhen: what do you need that's new in tetex3?05:20
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ubuntuis anyone available to answer a quick question?05:21
dmk2004installed new kernel, 2.6.12...and on boot, it says kernel panic...it didnt make an initrd.img, which i assume is the problem..any help?05:21
rekaubuntu: ask away05:21
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rekalol05:22
jbaileydmk2004: You can run mkinitrd by hand, but it's usually better to package your own kernels with make-kpkg05:22
Amaranthdmk2004: boot with your 2.6.10 kernel and read 'man make-kpkg'05:22
Amaranthdmk2004: the --initrd section05:22
dmk2004thanks..05:22
jbaileydmk2004: The best answer is really to not do your own kernel, and try to get the generic Ubuntu kernel working.05:22
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jbaileyThe Ubuntu system is tuned to work with our kernels, and there are no promises if you roll your own.05:22
dmk2004thanks...but is there a way of getting the 2.6.12? on x64?...because i have a problem...cpu usage is very high sometimes..and i read updating to 2.6.12 fixes this problem05:23
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metalhenuseruser: tetex3 has much more new latex packages, that I have to update all by hand myself when using tetex2. that are many..   this updates include bugfixes in tex-packages etc.05:25
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lokulinquestion for PPC gurus.  Is it possible to make ubuntu sleep when you close the lid on a PowerBook G4?05:25
jbaileydmk2004: If you can wait another week or two, breezy should start to settle down enough.05:25
dmk2004i have an amd64 3000+...with hoary x64..normal 2.6.10 kernel, cpu usage jumps to 35%+, on many programs..even 'top' lol. and things take a long time to run..it all goes pretty slowly...05:25
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dmk2004is that a known problem? high cpu usage, for no reason...05:26
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ryanomalley_hey05:27
ryanomalley_I have a question05:27
holycowk. go.05:27
ryanomalley_whenever I rip cds(with grip or soundjuicer) it will not go past 3.4x, yet I have a 40x cd drive05:27
holycowwe eagerly await your qustion05:27
holycow:)05:27
rekai've heard of firefox and high cpu loads05:27
ryanomalley_=)05:27
dmk2004LOL05:27
ryanomalley_it can take up to an hour to rip a cd.05:27
sproingiedmk2004: is it quick jumps or does it stay that way?05:27
rekaryanomalley_: enabled DMA?05:28
dmk2004it stays that way, for a good min or two05:28
holycowryanomalley_, try making sur you have dma turned on for the hd, google hdparm command to see how to turn it on05:28
ryanomalley_oh okay let me try05:28
rekasudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom05:28
sproingiedmk2004: top can be a cpu hog all by itself, most other things should not05:28
dmk2004well05:28
sproingiedmk2004: you running with any funky eye candy, like transparencies?05:28
deFryskjava-apps ?05:29
ryanomalley_okay reka I did the command05:29
dmk2004ill put it this way..my other athlon xp 1700+, is faster at everything, until it goes properly (cpu usage occasionaly goes down)05:29
ryanomalley_I get a long list of various options05:29
dmk2004no funky eye candy..been like this from fresh install05:29
sproingiedmk2004: i'm running on a 3200+, havent experienced such a problem05:29
dmk2004hmm05:29
dmk2004havent even changed the gnome theme, thats how much eye candy it has lol05:29
sproingiedmk2004: aside from top itself, what does top tell you is eating the most cpu?05:29
ryanomalley_reka: what should I do after?05:30
dmk2004i cant remember sorry..not using that pc atm....but say i was only running xmms..playing music...the sound wont even play smoothly for more than 8 secodns.05:30
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dmk2004*seconds05:30
sproingietho top really shouldn't eat more than a couple % cpu on a modern linux box05:30
sproingiemaybe 10% tops05:30
shartais there a way to turn on automount ?05:30
rekaryanomalley_: like this? 'using_dma    =  1 (on)'05:30
sorush20guys how do I run the xserver config...05:31
dmk2004i open xterm, and do an apt-get install or something...and it runs like crap.05:31
ryanomalley_reka: huh?05:31
shartaI mean eject sorry..CD wont eject when I push eject button...05:31
sproingiedmk2004: well xmms will eat loads of cpu... possibly xmms itself that's messed.  or perhaps your sound server05:31
deFrysksorush20, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:31
rekasharta: edit /etc/fstab05:31
shartareka, what is fstab ..05:31
rekasharta: nvm ... not related anymore. :)05:31
shartashanon, I am come from windows05:31
shartareka, oh ok..05:31
rekaryanomalley_: what options?  you should've just seen some output05:31
ryanomalley_reka: http://pastebin.ca/1863205:31
dmk2004ive never had these problems on my xp 1700...i can run xmms, firefox, and xterm with under 10% cpu usage...05:31
shartaryanomalley_, I am checking05:32
dmk2004its nearly as if its trying too hard with each program...dedicating too much power to it...but that doesnt make sense..05:32
shartaryanomalley_, nm05:32
ChaKyHi! I need a little help here. How can I use dpkg to upgrade same package. I know for 'dpkg -i package.deb' will install package, but how about upgrade?05:32
rekaryanomalley_: '1', not small 'L' :)05:32
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ryanomalley_haha sorry05:32
rekaryanomalley_: means you typed the command wrong :)05:33
sproingiedmk2004: does it happen when you're not running xmms?  possibly you have a bad codec or something?05:33
dmk2004yes, does it when im not running xmms05:33
sJaMremove it and install the new one ChaKy  ?05:33
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rekasharta: can you right-click on it's desktop icon and click eject?05:33
sproingiedmk2004: what else is chewing up the cpu?05:33
dmk2004if i close EVERYTHING..and only open one program...doesnt even matter what it is....it will go slow05:33
ryanomalley_ryanomalley@baboonsauce:~$ sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom05:33
ryanomalley_/dev/cdrom:05:33
ryanomalley_ setting using_dma to 1 (on)05:33
ryanomalley_ using_dma    =  1 (on)05:33
ryanomalley_did it.05:33
rekaryanomalley_: yep05:33
ChaKysJaM: I know that, but package that I want to remove, will also remove all the depends.05:33
ChaKysJaM: that's why I am asking for upgrade05:34
dmk2004on startup, (gnome startup bar thing) my xp1700+ is quicker...than the amd64 3000+ :|05:34
rekaryanomalley_: now try it .... if you want to enable DMA at bootup, edit /etc/hdparm.conf05:34
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ryanomalley_who a whoa whoa.05:34
ryanomalley_its going .1x now05:34
ryanomalley_0.1x05:34
sproingiedmk2004: that's rather odd.  top doesn't show a single runaway process?05:34
MartenHhow do I change gdm theme?05:34
rekaryanomalley_: heh.  that's no good.05:34
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ChaKyMartenH: sudo gdmsetup05:35
dmk2004sproingie - yes...say i only have xterm open...that will use atleast 35% cpu usage....so will xmms, so will firefox...ANYTHING...05:35
sproingiedmk2004: you running a 32bit or 64bit linux on your 3000+?  shouldn't matter, just wondering05:35
ryanomalley_so reka what should i do?05:35
MartenHChaKy: ty05:35
dmk2004could the ati drivers somehow cause problems?....'somehow'05:35
rekaryanomalley_: check ubuntuforums.org for topics on slow ripping speed05:35
dmk200464bit05:35
sproingiedmk2004: i haven't been having any real problems with the ati drivers.  and it should be xorg that's getting billed for the cpu usage, not the client program05:36
dmk2004hmm okay.05:36
dmk2004well, i done some searching on high cpu usage, and found a few posts from people saying that their amd64 pcs, were running slowly on ubuntu also..with the 2.6.10 kernel..upgraded to 2.6.12, and it started working fine05:37
ChaKynobody knows how to use dpkg or aptitude to upgrade already installed single package?05:37
rekaryanomalley_: if you can't find anything, ask again here in a 1/2 hour or so05:37
sJaMI thoguth dpkg didn't care about dependencies ChaKy05:37
sproingiedmk2004: i was going to suspect the kernel next05:37
ChaKysJaM: it cares05:37
sproingiedmk2004: only problem is that the ati drivers don't work on 2.6.1205:38
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sJaMwell isn't there an option05:38
sJaMlike disregard dependencies05:38
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ryanomalley_what does append mean?05:38
ryanomalley_haha05:38
ryanomalley_http://ubuntuguide.org/#speedupcddvdrom05:38
ChaKySynaptic can upgrade a single package, but it has to pull it from net. I already have mine on hard disk05:39
rekaryanomalley_: add to end05:39
sproingie!ubuntuguide05:39
ubotuubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.05:39
ryanomalley_ok05:39
sJaM --ingore-depends05:39
dmk2004sproingie - damn...well, there must be a logical reason why some people are having problems, but most are not..ill keep searching the net..05:40
ryanomalley_ugh ugh s05:40
ryanomalley_god damnit05:40
ChaKysJaM: well, that can help05:40
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ryanomalley_this is so god damn annoying05:40
sJaMI also see a --uprade-avail05:40
sJaMbut I don't know what it is05:40
rekaryanomalley_: find any topics on the forums?05:40
sproingiedmk2004: i get a lot of general performance problems with my linux servers, but it's always kswapd eating up the CPU, not stuff like xterm05:40
ryanomalley_They all say to do the same thing.05:40
sproingiedmk2004: i'm fairly mystified05:40
ChaKysJaM: hmm, strange, havent noticed that05:40
ChaKysJaM: I'll try05:41
ChaKythanks05:41
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ryanomalley_they ALL the say the same thing05:42
dmk2004sproingie - lol..yeah, isnt a typical issue is it..05:43
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dmk2004im also using ArchLinux on my 1700..since a few days ago...very nice ;)05:44
yangwots got to do with the firefox problem?05:45
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Belutzyang: update the firefox ?05:46
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dmk2004yang - what are you talking about05:48
Rydekulllook at topic05:49
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dmk2004ahh, i see.05:49
yangi mean, what is the problem with the firefox?05:49
rekaseems like slow rip speed is actually a kernel bug05:49
godzirraAnyone have experience with bootsplash?  I installed it in my kernel, recompiled the kernel, and made the initrd image etc, but when I reboot, I get little weird lines at the top of my screen, and no bootsplash like its supposed to.05:49
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yangbackports? what is that?05:50
holycowgodzirra, i would recommend reinstalling your os, and waiting for the userland bootsplash project to complete05:50
dmk2004reka - i had slow ripping speed also....very slow...i turned on virtual scsi emulation or something...read it makes a big difference..cant remember if it did alot or not lol.05:50
holycowthats the right way to do boot splash05:50
dabaRyang, it is for example,. when hoatry is released, all programs in it are a certain version05:51
Crafty-CatcherHehe I got my Software Raid to work - uninstalled ubuntu -> installed Debian ;)05:51
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rekadmk2004: that's was a suggested solution05:51
dabaRyang, so, som,e people awent the newer versions, so, they backports newwer versions to older systems(hoary05:51
dabaRawent=want05:51
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znhI've some weird issue, Kopete says that my MSN password is incorrect, But when I login with aMSN, everything goes fine with the same password05:51
elshai've been rummaging through the documentation for 5.04, but i cant seem to find what the default kernel is. does anyone know?05:52
godzirraholycow: Thats kind of a silly recommendation. W hy would I reinstall my OS?05:52
rekaelsha: 2.6.10-5-38605:52
dabaRznh check the settings other than pwsd.05:52
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elshareka: thank you :)05:52
dabaRwelcome05:52
yango i c, thx dabaR05:52
rekaelsha: i know there's a page out there for that stuff ... just can't be bothered looking. :)05:52
dabaRI can tell the future05:53
holycowgodzirra, because it seems like you don't really know what your doing, and trying to fish you out of your own recompiled kernel situation is a lot more work than actually just reinstalling the os and leaving it be until you can get it done right05:53
rekaelsha: so i just did a 'uname -r'05:53
holycowunless of course you want to poke around and learn, but thats another topic :)05:53
Paradoxxznh: yea, thats a known problem with kopete05:53
znhParadoxx: Is there a sollution for it?05:53
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dabaRholycow: is it borked? i got ther impression that its just not working with the bootsplash...05:53
elshaMmmm05:53
godzirraholycow: Wow.. thats a broad assumption.  I didn't install over the old kernel, thus killing my system.  And I'm not a linux noobie.  Just new to bootsplash.  I'm familiar with grub and how the splash works, and I'm familiar with initrds and other kernel params.05:54
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Paradoxxznh: i'm not sure if they have fixed with with a newer version yet, i think so, but you are better off getting gaim :P05:54
godzirraI just boot up with my old kernel and it works fine.05:54
godzirradabaR: thats it.05:54
zAo^for Breezy  ppl: Can I upgrade the Nvidia kernel module?05:54
znhParadoxx: gaim disconnects me after a while 'Reading Error'05:54
dabaRgodzirra: well, then holycow misunderstood, no need to !reinstall!05:54
godzirraI wasnt planning on it :)05:54
znhParadoxx: ah wel, I see there's a patch05:54
godzirrajust trying to figure out how to get bootsplash work.  Many other people have gotten it working, and I'm guessing I just have a bad graphic mode or something.05:55
dabaRI know,  not sure what holycow misunderstood, just making sure youre not a newb to listen to him...05:55
Paradoxxznh: oh, great, hope that sorts it out...05:55
dabaRgodzirra: yeah, it can work, I am too lazy to need something like that.05:55
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znhParadoxx: http://bugzilla.conectiva.com.br/attachment.cgi?id=1407&action=view05:55
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Paradoxxznh: kopete is nice, its gui looks good, but its slow with its updates, which is my only prob with it05:56
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godzirradabaR: Hehe.. when people start saying things like "reinstall" or "rm -rf" I usually go ... "uh huh... riiiiiight."05:56
znhParadoxx: I'm just trying ot05:56
znh*it05:56
holycowgodzirra, indeed i have misunerstood :)05:56
dabaR:)05:56
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holycowhowever, 9 times out of 10 my answer is dead on with exactly that question :)05:56
dabaRhehe05:57
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godzirraholycow:  all good... and 9 times out of 10, I'd probably agree with you :)05:59
godzirraI'm not new to linux...been using it about 11 years... just new to bootsplash :)05:59
sJaM11 years05:59
sJaMthat is a long time05:59
holycowthere are so many newbs around, i'm just trying to save them some frustration, because mostly they don't wanna muck around, they just want it to work05:59
holycowgodzirra, well then, you got 9 on me :)05:59
godzirraYup.  So far ubuntu seems good about "just working" if you don't screw with it.05:59
holycowhehe05:59
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godzirraMe? I'm all about what makes it tick. :)06:00
uber_newbercan sum1 help me out please, i think iv insstalled my lynksis wireless b usb network adapter, but im not sure. when i go into networking my wlan0 is bolded and lit up but it says its not active, so i activeate it and plug my dsl cable into my router so i can test it to see if it works but it dosent :(   maybe theres sumthing i still have to configure, i dunno06:00
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holycowbootsplash stuff is funky, there are 3 separate bootsplash implementations from what i remember, 1 redhat and 1 gentoo port ...06:00
holycowboth of which requrie funky kernel stuff06:00
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godzirraWell, I was using the debian bootsplash howto06:00
godzirra which seems the best route for ubuntu06:01
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holycowthe third one is an offshoot of the gentoo project i think, its basically a bootsplash in userland, i think its called usersplash06:01
godzirraWhats sad is if I login to the grub command line before I boot the kernel, I can display the splashimage there...06:01
d0m4inHello all. I was wondering if there was a better solution than cron in order to copy files from one HD to another, for backup and redundancy purposes?06:01
holycowand the idea is to let someone install it without kernel recompile06:01
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holycowthere was some talk about making it into breezy,  but probable after breezy i'm guessing06:01
godzirrawhich would definitely be nice.06:01
godzirrabreezy is the next ubuntu release?06:01
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holycowi think so, too early to to remember such details for me to :)06:02
godzirraGourami: woohoo.. printing is sooooo fun to setup.  </sarcasm>06:02
DespeehI would not touch to Breezy yet06:02
Gouramican someone tell me in a nutshell what XDMCP is ?06:02
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godzirraGourami: google is your friend :)06:02
Gouramigodzirra: its probably the only real issue I have with Ubuntu (that and file sharing/mounting)06:02
godzirra XDMCP stands for "X Display Manager Control Protocol" and is a network protocol.06:02
tritiumI'm still waiting on the Form 906:02
uber_newbercan sum1 help me out please, i think iv insstalled my lynksis wireless b usb network adapter, but im not sure. when i go into networking my wlan0 is bolded and lit up but it says its not active, so i activeate it and plug my dsl cable into my router so i can test it to see if it works but it dosent :(   maybe theres sumthing i still have to configure, i dunno06:03
dabaRGourami: nice!06:03
godzirraGourami: google XDMCP and click the first link :)06:03
godzirrathen read the intro06:03
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Gouramilol no man sheez thats what this #is for06:03
dabaRuber_newber: what? why is tehre a cable in a wireless story?06:03
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_deepfireGood day folks. The question is, what the "Bug report tool" option in the menu runs? I ask because i`ve installed a server install of ubuntu and have no easy way of telling...06:04
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tritiumGourami, we help people, but we also like people who help themselves06:04
Gouramitritium: understood and agreed06:04
tritium:)06:04
Gouramibear in mind us humans can be a tad lasy from time to time :006:04
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uber_newberi plugged my cat5 cable into the bac of th router so i could test to see if the wireless card worked, but it didnt06:05
elshaand ubuntu is linux for human beings after all aye Gourami :)06:05
guillemWhat kind of DVDs does Nautilus burn, DVD+r or DVD-r or both?06:05
Gouramilol well said elsha06:05
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elshawtf is uber newber going on about. i cant make sense of the question06:06
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holycowelsha, hehe06:06
dabaRelsha: ya, wires in a wireles story? is that throwing you off?06:06
uber_newbernvm i dont wanna go into detail to explain my setup06:06
Gouramiok so a quick google tells me, that if I have multiple Ubuntu workstations, XDMCP would be useful to me06:06
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dabaRuber_newber: no way we can know what to do then.06:06
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tritiumuber_newber, help us to help you06:06
ToRTuReD_Xhmm06:06
elshadabaR, very much so06:06
elsha:)06:07
ToRTuReD_Xquestion06:07
ToRTuReD_Xif i wanted to use my second hard drive for just random files06:07
uber_newberdabaR: oh well my friends getting on in a bit, he'll know what to do06:07
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dabaRuber_newber: awesome!06:07
ToRTuReD_Xcould i do so by using the /share option in the partition?06:07
uber_newberdabaR: yes very awsome06:08
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dabaRguillem: come on, man, the dvd drive itself knows about - and + nautilus just sends the data to the device.06:08
dabaRuber_newber: agreed!06:08
uber_newberlol06:08
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ToRTuReD_XYOU CAN DO IT!!06:09
ToRTuReD_Xall night long...06:09
ToRTuReD_X<_<06:09
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dabaRcan we do it?06:09
Gouramisomebody check the internet hampster !06:09
guillemdabaR, I thought you needed different software for dvd+r or dvd-r burning06:09
holycowi think the internet hampsters had babies06:10
elshaToRTuReD_X, why would you have to set an option on a second drive for random files?06:10
dabaRguillem: I wouldnt expect so, ther is a level of abstraction in between, I would expect.06:10
holycowsurprise!06:10
ToRTuReD_Xguillem - don't think you do06:10
HaroldMorning, everyone!06:10
HarolddabaR, Morning06:10
dabaRhey Harold .06:10
Haroldnalioth_wrkn, Morning06:10
ToRTuReD_Xelsha - because my 60gb hard drive is where i store all my files06:10
ToRTuReD_X;/06:10
ToRTuReD_Xand i dunno if it's possible to view it without doing that06:10
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HarolddabaR, Remember yesterday I mentioned that sound through my headphones isn't working?06:11
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dabaRyes. did you try with a mac OS?06:11
ToRTuReD_Xhmm06:11
ToRTuReD_Xthat reminds me06:11
ToRTuReD_Xis sigmatel C Major audio cards supported?06:11
HarolddabaR, Well, others have reported the same issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-40400.html06:12
tritiumgood morning Harold06:12
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Haroldtritium, Morning, tritium.  How're you?06:12
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dabaRHarold: no! with powerbooks? so, like, older ones, like g3, or g4s?06:12
tritiumFine, thanks.  You, Harold?06:12
tritiumhowdy, nalioth_wrkn06:12
dabaRI cant remember if my sound worked on the ibook..06:12
godzirraI want an ibook :/06:13
_deepfirehow is the ubuntu`s Bug Report Tool executable called?06:13
ToRTuReD_Xi have the feeling my satelite TV is messing with my internet06:13
ToRTuReD_Xgod damn digital cable06:13
ToRTuReD_X-_-06:13
HarolddabaR, Yes - I hear the Mac's infamous startup tone through my headphones when I reboot.  Yet once I'm in Ubuntu, the sound no longer comes out of the headphones, though it's still coming through the PowerBook's speakers.  It's like it's ignoring the headphones.06:14
Haroldtritium, Not bad; just trying to resolve a sound issue.06:14
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naliothHarold: howdy06:14
HarolddabaR, It's a PowerBook G3; an old one.06:14
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Haroldnalioth, Howdy, partner.06:14
ToRTuReD_Xscrew it06:15
ToRTuReD_Xi'm goin to bed06:15
ToRTuReD_Xnight all06:15
dabaRweird, night, ToRTuReD_X ,.06:15
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elshanight ToRTuReD_X06:15
Haroldnalioth, We've had liftoff.  I know, I know, it was Florida...06:15
_deepfireuseless channel, good bye06:16
dabaRhaha06:16
Haroldnalioth, ...Mission Control has quite a bit of work ahead, though...06:16
ToRTuReD_Xnight elsha06:16
ToRTuReD_Xwhip that pack mule ya call the internet extra hard for me will ya06:16
Haroldnalioth, ...as they're explainin' why the shuttle is boundin' off'a birds 'n' stuff.06:16
elshaeh, it just turned offpeak time overhere, i got a bit excited because my peak is capped at 64kb :P06:17
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CoffeeBreaksI just installed ubuntu and although it asked me for a user, I don't recall him asking me for a root password06:17
Haroldnalioth, After you told me about your iBook burnin' up, I made sure to turn off my PowerBook when it got real hot here.  No A/C here either, you know?06:17
dabaRCoffeeBreaks: ubuntu uses sudo. Your password is used for sudo.06:17
znhI'm trying to get kopete installed from the source (binary in ubuntu doesn't contain the MSN fix yet), but it asks for KDE-headers.. what package is that?06:18
dabaRCoffeeBreaks: /msg ubotu root06:18
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HaroldCoffeeBreaks, I usually do sudo -s06:18
dabaRznh: tried #kubuntu?06:18
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znhdabaR: not yet06:18
HaroldCoffeeBreaks, though I forget what the -s is for.06:18
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dabaRtry that, may get moer educated answers there.06:18
HarolddabaR, Uh!  Educated?06:18
znhlol06:18
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CoffeeBreaksHarold: to enable the shell06:19
CoffeeBreaksthanks06:19
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dabaRHarold: ya, Im all about tha edumication!06:19
HarolddabaR, Hey, I may be a moron, but I'm not...waitaminute.06:19
dabaRCoffeeBreaks: msg the bot to learn more06:19
Harold!learn06:19
ubotuHarold: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about06:19
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naliothHarold: yes, the operating temperature range is >95f06:19
dabaRok, well, see ya later.06:20
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Haroldnalioth, What're you using to check the temp?06:20
naliothtritium: sorry, i've been afk06:20
naliothtritium: fixin breakfast06:20
tritiumnalioth, just giving you a hard time ;)06:20
naliothHarold: on the ibook or the room temp?06:21
Haroldnalioth, On the iBook?06:21
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lcharly_TheOnesomebody can help me06:21
Haroldlcharly_TheOne, What's up?06:21
lcharly_TheOnei hava a laptop compaq presario v2312 with06:22
naliothHarold: my fingers. (when i touch it and can't keep my hand on it, it's too hot)06:22
lcharly_TheOneamd turion 6406:22
Haroldnalioth, LOL06:22
lcharly_TheOneand ubuntu hoary doesn't wotk06:22
dabaRhas06:23
dabaRha!06:23
Haroldnalioth, Have you ever plugged headphones into your iBook(s) and found no sound coming out (except for from the iBook's speakers)?  That's my current issue.06:23
dabaR!doesnt work06:23
ubotudabaR: I give up, what is it?06:23
dabaR!doesn't work06:23
ubotudoesn't work is, like, something you should never say.  Be more specific.06:23
naliothHarold: are you using ubuntu?06:23
Haroldnalioth, Of course!Q06:23
lcharly_TheOneok06:23
Haroldnalioth, Are you?06:23
lcharly_TheOnewhen i install it is too slow06:23
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dabaRlcharly_TheOne: more info.06:24
naliothHarold: yes ubuntu, no to the headphones (i dont use 'phones)06:24
elshaoh, so it does work06:24
elsha:P06:24
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lcharly_TheOneand when finish and i put my username06:24
lcharly_TheOneand pass '06:24
lcharly_TheOnethe screen freezy and nothing happend06:24
Haroldnalioth, I don't know that it's critical, but I wanted to be able to listen to sound through headphones once in awhile.06:24
Haroldnalioth, Here's what I've found: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-40400.html06:25
lcharly_TheOnei hava an ATI xpress 200 m06:25
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bubbasheekodoes anybody have any suggestions for me?  I have a TVM monitor, but it won't let me see the login screen.  I can't get the screen above a 800x600 resolution.06:25
Haroldnalioth, Basically, that's a link to someone else experiencing the same issue, but no explanation.06:25
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mruizsomeone can explain me what is a milestone version?06:26
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dabaRnalioth: did you ever notice an option inside osX to allow closing the laptop, and not going to sleep?06:26
elshabubbasheeko, have you tried altering the refresh rate on the different resolutions?06:26
lcharly_TheOnei probe with a lot of dostrobution and the others one06:26
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Myrttiummm06:27
lcharly_TheOneworks but the cpu its always 52% work and the computer is too slow06:27
MyrttiI'm trying to install Java06:27
Myrttithe guide on wiki says to install JDK06:27
Myrttiwhich JDK, the source code?06:27
lcharly_TheOneand there is not procces use it the 52 %06:28
lcharly_TheOnecpu06:28
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naliothdabaR: there is no option standard with osx, you can d/l a kernel patch that will void your warranty and allow your 'book to continue operations while closed06:28
orangerangehello, I want to copy the table from http://www.ntt-west.co.jp/service_guide/2billing/billing03.html to a wordprocessor (like OOo Writer or abiword). when i do, the table's formatting is lost. can anyone help?06:28
dabaRMy warranty is voided. But, is it bad for the comp really?06:29
naliothMyrtti: do you have an x86 system?06:29
naliothdabaR: may cause overheating is all06:29
tritiumMyrtti, grab Sun's .bin installer, then install ubuntu's "java-package", and use fakeroot make-jpkg <file.bin> to make a .deb of the jdk06:29
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naliothtritium: that method doesnt work for all users, i was gettin there06:29
Haroldlcharly_TheOne, What is that processor speed on that Compaq?06:29
TenshiI just installed windoze, so now I need to restore grub.  Does ubuntu have a special command to do this for its setup?06:30
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lcharly_TheOne1.6 ghz06:30
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lcharly_TheOneor 1.8 im not shire06:30
lcharly_TheOneshure06:30
dabaRnalioth: a kernel patch for OSX, sounds dangerous:)), well, I wish I knew how to do those things, Ill google.06:30
dabaRthanks, nalioth .06:30
elph0good afternoon06:30
HarolddabaR, Watch that overheating06:30
HarolddabaR, nalioth can give you a horror story about that.06:31
dabaRI will, ha!06:31
tritiumnalioth, what are you referring to?06:31
elph0someone here got problems with lpt1 printer?06:31
naliothtritium: nothing i'm completely off my bean today06:31
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tritiumnalioth :)06:31
Haroldlcharly_TheOne, How many processes do you have going?06:32
TenshiIs there a shell script to tell grub to reinstall itself back into the mbr?06:32
Haroldlcharly_TheOne, By the way, I'm very new to Ubuntu, so I may not be the best person to work with you on this...06:32
lcharly_TheOnejaja06:32
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naliothHarold: quit tellin stories06:33
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Haroldnalioth, LOL06:33
lcharly_TheOnei read in internet that the amd turion don't work whit ubuntu06:33
JoshRAHas anayone had a problem installing ubuntu from a cd ordered from ubuntu?06:33
SeveasJoshRA, no :)06:34
guillemlcharly_TheOne, what is an amd turion?06:34
Haroldlcharly_TheOne, Is that what you have?  The Turion?06:34
JoshRASeveas: well with each cd for me it is a differnt file06:34
JoshRAthat it says it has a problem with06:34
lcharly_TheOneyes i have amd turion 6406:34
JoshRA>.<06:34
naliothguillem: a Turion is AMDs new name for their mobile amd6406:34
elph0How can i add an lpt1 (lp0) port for use a Deskjet CX970C?06:34
zAo^I'm planning to buy a MX500 (or so). Do the 'return' buttons work in FireFox?06:34
uber_newbercan sum1 tell me why i cant adjust my screen resolution06:34
guillemlcharly_TheOne, nalioth, oh I see06:34
Haroldlcharly_TheOne, Well, maybe that's the problem.06:34
guillemI'm pretty happy with my Athlon 64.06:35
Haroldlcharly_TheOne, I'm don't really know, though.06:35
Harold!turion06:35
ubotuHarold: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?06:35
Harold!amd06:35
ubotuHarold: No idea06:35
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elph0!lp006:36
ubotuI haven't a clue, elph006:36
elph0!lpt106:36
ubotuelph0: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about06:36
elph0ahuuhahua cool bot06:36
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Haroldlcharly_TheOne, Here's a thread about the Turion issue, I believe: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50100&highlight=turion06:37
dabaR /msg ubotu msg the bot06:37
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uber_newbercan sum1 help me adjust my screen resoltion i go  to system>preferences> and the screen resolution but it only gives me one option, 640x480 which is the size i have now but i really dont like it.06:37
bubbasheekoelsha, yes.  I only have two selections06:37
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black13mcphail around?06:38
Haroldlcharly_TheOne, It may be a video card configuration issue, according to that thread.06:38
skalpeldoes anyone know what the command for pysoulseek is after installation is done?06:39
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elshabubbasheeko, i've been looking into stuff about monitors today, i dont know what is causing your problem, but it could be a) your video card, not having the correct drivers installed for the OS, b) your monitor is crap, c) erm... see b.06:40
zAo^how do I start ftpd? :S06:40
zAo^nm :S06:41
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guillemzAo^, install the server from synaptic.06:41
skalpelwhat does this mean?06:42
skalpelCan not find wxPython modules. Either wxPython is not06:42
skalpelinstalled, or it's not in Python's module search path06:42
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trmCan anyone help me, I can not get any sound out of VLC, although all system sounds are working06:42
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seliniumHi all, Is mplayer no longer in Multiverse?06:44
bubbasheekoI knew that already elsha :P06:44
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elshai hate my monitor06:44
holycowargh!06:44
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holycowgoddammit06:44
bubbasheekoit's bigger than my 15 inch daewoo06:44
elshanah, i have a 15" hyundai06:44
trmanyone here familliar with VLC ?06:45
elshaWHICH DOESNT EVEN WORK IN BOOTUP oooh, wewewewe "video mode not supported"06:45
elshauseless06:45
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lcharly_TheOnewhen the new breezy version is avalible?06:45
trmelsha, I have a 19" Hyundai and it works gr806:45
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Seveaslcharly_TheOne, october06:46
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SeveasUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months06:47
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lcharly_TheOneok06:47
elshatrm, it's actually, as far as i'm aware at the moment, just a fluke of incompatibility between my particular video card and hyundai monitors... well, so it would appear06:47
naliothhowdy Seveas06:47
uber_newbermy little update manager thing told me i had 39 updates available, so i clicked on it and it listed all the updates and i hit install but then i got the error: Another package manager is running06:47
uber_newberYou can run only one package management application at the same time. Please close this other application first.   the only other thing i have open is this x-chat room06:47
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Belutzhai Seveas06:48
Belutzhai nalioth06:48
Belutz:D06:48
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naliothBelutz: howdy06:48
Seveasuber_newber, odd....06:48
Belutznalioth: how r u?06:48
uber_newberSeaveas: ya i know06:48
naliothBelutz: gifted, as usual06:48
uber_newberits never happend b406:48
Belutznalioth: great :D06:49
apokryphosSeveas: hey, any idea if there's an easy way to alter the resolution/refresh-rate of the gdm/kdm login screen?06:49
Belutznalioth: you're gifted to help other ubuntu users :D06:49
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Seveasuber_newber, if this situation persists after reboot, sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock06:49
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naliothBelutz: exactly06:49
uber_newberok thanx06:49
uber_newberrebooting now.....06:50
Seveasapokryphos, you would neet to edit xorg.conf or run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:50
noobiejuz curious, is there a recommended audio/video player for ubuntu? can't seem to play any mp3s/wma/avi/mpeg files wif totem06:50
Seveasnoobie: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support06:50
Despeehvlc06:50
Belutznalioth: :)06:50
apokryphosSeveas: when the problem persists even after that; have seen several members who've had the problem.06:50
seliniumHi all, Is mplayer no longer in Multiverse?06:50
Seveasapokryphos, this problem can happen after an unclean shutdown of a package manager06:50
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Seveasapokryphos, sorry, mixing uo...06:51
noobieseveas: thanx! but how is it tt totem won't play the files? had the impression tt it would06:51
trmelsha, what video card ?06:51
Seveasapokryphos, you should remove all non-needed resolutions...06:51
bubbasheekomy daewoo is 15 inches, and works perfectly, but I want my 17 to work06:51
apokryphosSeveas: ok, good idea.06:51
Seveasnoobie, with gstreamer0.8-mad (or totem-xine) totem plays mp3s fine06:51
Paradoxxlater all, i'm out06:51
naliothnoobie: for legal reasons, mp3 and other codecs don't come by default in ubuntu06:51
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LeeColletonnalioth: are those legal reasons only pertinent in the US?06:53
seliniumhow do i get a copy of mplayer?06:53
noobieseveas/nalioth: thx a bunch, heh... wait... if that's the case... isn't... MS gonna b in trouble?:] 06:53
LeeColletonnoobie: you can pay a fee to distribute mp3 decoders06:53
noobieselinium: http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/MPlayer-Download-20.html06:53
naliothLeeColleton: probably so, yes06:54
trmif I have installed vlc and libdvdcss2 would I still need something else because I am getting no sound through VLC ?06:54
LeeColletonif you have a hardware mp3 player, 1$ of the cost went to license the codec06:54
LeeColletonnalioth: wouldn't it be fun to make a non-US version of Ubuntu?  hmm...06:54
nalioth!info mplayer06:55
LeeColletonfor distribution outside of the US, of course06:55
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nalioth!info mplayer-38606:55
ubotumplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 3499 kB, Installed size: 7592 kB06:55
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apokryphosnalioth: I think it has to be a specific cpu version of mplayer, doesn't it?06:55
apokryphosyah06:55
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naliothselinium: mplayer is in multiverse06:55
LeeColleton!info mplayer-68606:55
ubotumplayer-686: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 (hoary), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 96 kB06:55
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erchachehow long are downloading svn content with a atm connection?06:56
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MMTXNEThow can i streamline ubuntu with a gui and the ability to burn DVD and use wine on a 1ghz 512mb machine06:56
erchacheoooopss06:56
erchachefinished06:56
erchache:P06:56
seliniumnalioth: i have enabled all repos in synaptic including all hidden ones. I have refreshed the list and still no mplayer!06:56
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erchacheooops06:57
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naliothselinium: search for "mplayer"06:57
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=== trm downloads mplayer-386...
nalioths_dogselinium: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3806:57
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MMTXNETany takers06:58
seliniumnalioth: i have! ok will do.06:58
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naliothselinium: the link the dog sent you has more than the default sources06:58
Despeehdid you remember to run apt-get update06:58
aigariusjuck, breezy is as unstable as fedora :P06:59
seliniumDespeeh: yep!06:59
Despeehaigarius I know :)06:59
gangaleeMMTXNET: sounds like you want Movix06:59
noddabai did the "expert" install for hoary, and when I went to set the root password, i screwed up the first password.  Ctrl-U apparentlyd idn't work, so I can't get the second pass to match.  Hitting <Go back> won't let me retype the first password in.  Can anyone help?06:59
noddabaand is this a bug in the installer?06:59
Despeehpasswd07:00
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aigariusdoes the X maintainer know how screwed the current breezy package is?07:00
gangaleeAny1 can help me w/ my problem where I moved /etc/ to a new partition and now my system won't boot because it can't find /etc?07:00
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MMTXNETi just want to be able to rip movies the quickest way possible and i have heard people are getting really fast rips and encodes with ubuntu and wine using dvd shrink and dvd decrypter07:00
naliothnoddaba: continue the process, it wont let it go with unmatched passwords07:00
catolh!dma07:00
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frankaigurius: probably07:00
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noddabanalioth, I don't know what the first password was.  i'm trying to get it to restart the process so I can re-enter the first password07:00
aigariusgangalee, well it propably tries to find /etc/fstab :)07:00
Despeehups07:00
naliothnoddaba: i understand, but if you fumbled the pwd attempt, it should not allow you to continue the install07:01
thierryI have a huge problem : I can't mount anything on my second cd-rom drive (wich also read dvd)07:01
MMTXNEThow big is ubuntu07:01
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apokryphosMMTXNET: big07:02
seliniumnalioth: is that the whole list?07:02
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thierrywell, in fact I can mount cd-rom but no dvd07:02
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noddabanalioth, really?  Since you are already installing the system (thus being physically at the machine and having around formatted the drive), why can't it allow you to reset the password if you "fumbled" the first attempt?07:02
elwoodhi all guys07:02
apokryphosMMTXNET: you probably need at least around 2 gigs, I'd guess07:02
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noddabaaround = already07:02
MMTXNEThow big is the download07:02
naliothselinium: that list will get you all of official ubuntu07:03
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frankMMTXNET: 1 cd07:03
apokryphosMMTXNET: around 700 megs07:03
MMTXNETcool07:03
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elwoodyes07:03
elwoodwhere i can find an update sources.list?07:03
thierrywell, finally I just can't mount dvd-r07:03
MMTXNETdoes it support auto updates07:03
elwoodi have the one of the cd installation07:03
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naliothnoddaba: i would think it would not allow you to continue the installation07:03
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naliothelwood: what kind of updates?07:04
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elwoodnalioths i have to do apt-get update :)07:04
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gangaleeaigarius: I know, how do I specify where the filesystems are before inittab?07:04
elwoodi need the mirror... i have just the deb cd :07:04
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elph0thierry: did you try mounting with -t option?07:05
nalioths_dogelwood: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3807:05
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thierryhow do I do that?07:05
stjepanheya07:05
Darth^Gochfulshi...07:05
elph0thierry07:05
stjepanI can't surf07:05
stjepanplease07:05
thierryelph0 : how do I do that?07:05
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aigariusgangalee, I can only think about hacking up the initrd07:06
stjepancan you give me link to ubuntu .deb package of ndiswrapper?07:06
stjepanpls07:06
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elwoodnalioths_dog, thanks !07:06
gangaleeI tried starting from Kanotix, but it won't let me write to the hard drive07:06
D^Gochfulshiganthere...07:06
D^Gochfulshigannot quite07:06
D^Gochfulshiganbut close07:06
stjepanso?07:06
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gangaleeaigarius: how do I hack the initrd?07:06
gangaleeor is there a way to get a live CD to allow me to write to a ext3fs?07:07
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elph0thierry: with -t vfat or -t iso9660 ... i dont know if works.. possible not...but you can try07:07
aigariusgangalee, almost any livecd will allow you that07:07
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stjepanoh07:07
stjepannever mind07:07
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gangaleeaigarius: I just have to change the fstab options?07:08
aigariusgangalee, hacking initrd is pretty hard if you don't know what you are doing. I would suggest moving most of /etc back to root partition07:08
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thespiritoftalDoesn't ubuntu have a c-compiler by default?07:10
nalioththespiritoftal: not it does not, install "build-essential"07:10
thespiritoftalthanks07:11
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LokeDKhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=274216 any ideas?07:11
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thespiritoftalit installs cc right?07:11
nalioththespiritoftal: not sure about cc, but gcc is definitely there07:12
Seveasthespiritoftal, yes it will07:12
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thespiritoftalokie thanks07:13
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thespiritoftaland what is the reason they have neither java nor c-compiler?07:13
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thespiritoftalso weird07:13
ryanhow do I set who can log in using ssh?07:14
sJaMyou can use iptables07:14
Harold_researchnAnyone: How do we force-quit an app in Ubuntu?07:14
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sJaMto block port 21 to certain host07:15
sJaMor allow it only for some host07:15
sJaMI mean port 2207:15
sJaMhehe07:15
rem_xkill or top and kill or ps and kill ...07:15
ryanwow, that's almost worse than useless :p07:15
rem_easiest xkill07:15
Harold_researchnrem_, Thanks07:15
ryanhow do I set what users can log in I should have asked :)07:15
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] |[dArt-ChunYheyko, I have a problem with TeamSpeak can anyone help me out? I installed TS (latest version), but when I start it nothing happends.07:15
KimppaHello.. does anyone know how to set up double screen on ubuntu? or is it even possible?07:16
Harold_researchnrem_, Did the trick!  Thanks07:16
sJaMwell I know you can deny root07:16
black13ok i have build ubutunto chroot on mandrake07:16
naliothHarold_researchn: applications > run application > xkill    once it starts, the next thing you touch is dead07:16
sJaMbut others I don't know actually07:16
TheLightcan anyone here help me with an obscure kernel error?07:16
wdhryan, thats an interesting question.. i'll dive into it and let you know :P i'm curious myself07:16
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ryanthanks :)07:17
Harold_researchnnalioth, Thanks for telling me now; now my t.v. remote is dead.07:17
nalioththespiritoftal: reason being is that for most users a compiler is not needed07:17
Harold_researchnnalioth, Ah, who needs t.v. anyway?  It's a waste of time.07:17
thierrywhen I try to mount a dvd-r I get this : mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda,07:17
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thierry       missing codepage or other error07:17
thierry       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try07:17
thierry       dmesg | tail  or so07:17
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thierrybut when I read a dvd or a cd-rom is all right07:18
antisocialboriscan anyone help me setup my wireless internet connection?07:18
uber_newberantiscocialboris: wats yur wireless card?07:19
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desrtcan someone give me a hand with compiling kernel from source?07:19
antisocialborislet me see if i can ind out..07:19
desrtbasically, i need to know what the correct way to get all of the patches in debian/ applied to the tree is07:19
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salilhello07:20
wimsi have mounted my windows drives through fstab under /mnt/c and /mnt/d. But when i try to cd /mnt/c i get permission denied. if i try to chmod a+rx i get chmod: changing permissions of `c': Read-only file system. How can i access my windows drives while being my normal user?07:20
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Seveaswims, add the option umask=0000 to the fstab line07:20
wimsthanks07:21
salili get only one screen resolution option 640x480...any help available?07:21
antisocialborisok, ive found a sheet called guidelines for intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG07:21
uber_newberantiscocial: im guessing your running ubuntu right07:22
handlehey, wims are you using ntfs or fat32?07:22
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gilliganis anyone here using alsa/dmix ?07:22
antisocialborisyes07:22
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ryanaha  AllowUsers07:22
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antisocialboristhe help thing told me it would be easy to install by clicking on an add button that isnt there07:22
thespiritoftalI have compiled my programme but can't run it... when I typed the name in the terminal it says no such command and when I open in from places-home--> I click on it and nothing happens :/07:22
uber_newberantiscocialboris: well im a noob, but my best guess would b to ask around for what drivers supports yur wireless card07:23
ryanthespiritoftal:   ./prog name07:23
Petrovhello07:23
ryanand make sure it's marked execute in the permissions07:23
antisocialborisok07:23
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Petrovubuntu is that good for desktop or server?07:23
Harold_researchnAnyone: Know how to fire up a PC Card in the morning?07:23
ryanPetrov, I use it for both07:23
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Petrovryan, thx07:24
Harold_researchnAnyone: Whenever I run a package to access my iRiver, I'm getting the error: "Could not find any USB busses."07:24
antisocialboriscan anyone else help me with my connection?07:25
TheLightHello, is there anyone here who would help me diagnose an obscure kernel error?07:25
Harold_researchnAnyone: Yet yesterday I was able to access my PC Card fine.07:25
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emanuelezhello!07:25
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emanuelezany hope for inkscape 0.42 in hoary anytime soon?07:25
Harold_researchnAnyone: So, my question is, what commands do I run to fire up my PC Card every day?07:26
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wimshandle: ntfs07:26
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handlewims: are they fully support with captive now?07:27
wdhryan, any luck yet on blocking specific users from logging in remotely? I seem to have found the answer07:27
wimshuh?07:27
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ombrhi07:27
handleI thought you need special drivers to read/write ntfs or is that old?07:27
wimsi have the drivers07:28
wimsit works when i'm root07:28
wimsthough i can't write07:28
handleare they commercial drivers?07:28
wdhhandle, nope.. just highly experimental/unstable07:28
ryan AllowUsers07:28
Despeehwims try  forexample     ntfs ro,umask=0220      0        007:28
ryanthanks thoug wdh :)07:28
wimsi think they are in multiverse or something07:28
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handleI tried a disk from bit defender that had captive drivers07:28
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Harold_researchnAnyone: Know how to access another computer that's on the network?  Specifically, a Mac OS X machine?07:29
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handleI seemed to be able to write a text file07:29
wdhryan, hmmz.. we seem to have found a different solution to the same problem :P07:29
ryanlol07:29
ryanallow/deny group/user07:29
ryanwhat's your solution?07:29
wdhryan, i ended up with /etc/sshusers-allowed07:29
ryanI suppos I could do cert auth07:29
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wdhryan, you just write this allow/deny thing to the config-file?07:29
ryanapparently07:30
wdhryan, and you tested it?07:30
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ryannot yet07:30
iceman2kAnyone using a 64 bit System.... i need Advice on moving to 64 bit...07:30
ryanwdh:  but it's listed in the man page for sshd07:30
ryanwdh, or sshd_config I mean07:31
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antisocialborisim using AMD6407:31
iceman2kantisocialboris u using ubuntu 64 bit ...07:32
antisocialborisyeah07:32
antisocialboristhough im a newb07:32
iceman2kwhat speed amd64 processor07:32
antisocialboris3400+07:32
KimppaHello.. does anyone know how to set up double screen on ubuntu? or is it even possible?07:32
handleAnyone know how to stop nautilus-cd-burner appearing when I put a disk in?07:33
iceman2kshould be getting a 2800 system in the next day or two...07:33
drummerHi caan someone help me with some printer issues07:33
wimskimmpa it's possible07:33
frankiceman2k: are you new to linux? some things are annoying with Ubuntu64.07:33
HappyFoolhandle: System -> Preferences -> Removable media; you should be able to find what you want there07:33
jeukku_Kimppa: google for dual head ubuntu07:33
Kimppak07:33
handlegreat! thanks07:33
iceman2kantisocialboris any big issues07:33
iceman2kim new, yes.... but refuse to pay microshaft $250 for a 64 bit windows07:34
antisocialborisi have some annoyances, how much is down to ubuntu and how much is down to me im not sure07:34
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iceman2kwine work with 64 bit ? yet ?07:35
AndaresI do not think so.07:35
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antisocialborislike i said earlier i read through the help to try and get my wireless connection working and it told me it was easy, all i had to do was click an add button that was nonexistant07:35
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AndaresIn fact, iceman2k, what do you mean?07:35
frankiceman2k: if you want to have flash plugin in firefox, vmware, most games, you need to setup a 32 chroot. some programs were unstable for me in 64 bits like kaffeine, and streamtuner. there is no backports for 64 bits07:35
HappyFooli think it might work in a limited fashion; however, you can just apt-get it07:35
HappyFooloops07:36
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HappyFool*cannot* just apt-get it07:36
AndaresDo you want it to work with 64-bit apps or 32-bit apps?07:36
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ubuntu_dellhi there07:36
wdhryan, ok, i liked your solution.. and it works here charmingly well :)07:37
Andaresj3llo.07:37
frankiceman2k: If you want less problems, stick with the 32bit version of Ubuntu. I don't see the performance difference in what I do day to day07:37
ryanokay :)07:37
iceman2klooking to run wine with Diablo II .... Farcry, and a few available linux games... including America's army online ...07:37
Andaresiceman2k, It is damn well impossible to run 32-bit Windows apps on a 64-bit distro of Ubuntu.07:37
ryanthis is good07:37
zAo^how can I disable those 'minimise amimations' in Gnome???07:37
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lesshastehow can I get logging or debugging turned on in mplayerplug-in?07:38
lesshasteI want to record which URL is being played07:38
iceman2kouch, looks like my goals are out of reach, what about Duel Boot... 32 bit Ubuntu and 64 bit .... then running the windows apps in the 32 bit boot07:38
frankiceman2k: I'll wait until you can transparently install 32bit applications before switching to Ubuntu64. It's supposed to be coming, I don't know when07:38
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iceman2kDuel boot, from seprate hard drives ...07:39
AndaresIf you want to play Windows games, then just...07:39
AndaresGAAA! Pet Peeve #1 Activated!07:39
AndaresDuel is a fight between 2 people! Dual is 2 of something!07:39
frankiceman2k: everything you want to do is possible in 64, but easier in 32. And the performance difference isn't that great unless you do cpu intensive stuff in 64 bits all the time like video encoding07:40
iceman2kone harddrive devoted to 64 bit ... on devoted to 32 bit ...07:40
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iceman2ktwo hard drives ...07:40
AndaresJust dual boot WinXP and Ubuntu64 if you want to play Windoze games.07:40
AndaresWhy?07:40
AndaresJust get two partitions.07:40
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Despeehvmware07:40
AndaresDespeeh, no. That would be slow++.07:41
Despeehqemu :)07:41
iceman2k40 gig for a winblows ... and 80 gig for linux07:41
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AndaresYea.07:41
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Andaresiceman2k, Why not just use two partitions?07:41
HappyFoolzAo^: i'm not sure -- i actually have the 'enable_animations' in gconf turned, but i has those minimization animations anyway07:41
godzirraI dont think I could fill up an 80 gig linux partition :)07:41
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iceman2kseprate ide channels .... easier to recover if a crash ocures ...07:42
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zAo^thanks HappyFool I tried everything :)07:42
AndaresI guess.07:42
godzirrariiiight.07:42
HappyFoolheh07:42
iceman2kWould like to see if America's army online supports 64 bit linux07:42
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HappyFoolyeah, crashes often spread over ide cables ;)07:43
Andaresiceman2k, Don't bet on it.07:43
iceman2kAndares i know... Farcry does support6 a 64 bit version...07:43
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godzirraI hate those damned ide virii that spread through ide cables.07:43
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Andaresiceman2k, Oh cool! I want one.07:43
Andaresgodzirra, Wait... virii on LINUX?!07:43
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frankiceman2k: I don't if there are others here who tried Ubuntu64, but I wouldn't recommend it for someone new to linux. 32 is like heaven compared to the pain 64 was, and I had used linux before07:44
iceman2kAndares What i think doom 3 is available in 64 bit ... as well. there are a few games out ...07:44
godzirraAndares: Yes.. the ones that spread via ide cable to cause crashes. :)07:44
Andaresiceman2k, Well, I just want Doom 3 and Farcry... I don't have 64-bit proc.07:45
frankI know far cry is, and the improvement is not extraordinary. It's the only one I heard about07:45
AndaresIn fact, I really want HL2..07:45
wimshl2 :(07:45
AndaresDoes HL2 work in Wine/Cedega?07:45
godzirraeh.  fps's just dont do it for me anymore.07:45
franksupposedly, yes07:45
AndaresWhy the :(, wims?07:45
wimsi was a bit disapointed07:45
iceman2kI would go with Hl2 but hate the Steam online platform ...07:45
godzirraSteam is not your friend.07:46
iceman2khe he07:46
frank.... if you don;t want to pay, I guess07:46
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AndaresHL2's physics engine scares me... in a good way.07:46
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iceman2kwhy pay to play ... to many free games available ...07:46
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iceman2ki got farcry a week or two ago... 32 bit ... windows .. it rocks07:47
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frankiceman2k: yeah it looks really good if your video card can handle high settings07:48
iceman2k256 meg nvidia07:48
frankiceman2k: do you have an ATI or Nvidia card?07:48
frankok07:48
iceman2k;)07:48
franknvidia is better in linux07:48
iceman2klearned that a while back ...07:48
ZincXnvidia sux07:48
iceman2kno way07:48
frankuh oh....07:49
ZincXyes way07:49
iceman2kNvidia rocks07:49
SeveasZincX, nvidia supports linux much better than ati does07:49
ZincXeven if thats so07:49
ZincXnvidia sux07:49
Seveashowever, ati is technologically better07:49
Seveasso both of you are right :)07:49
iceman2kuse what works ... 3com modem.. 3 com nic's ....07:50
iceman2kNvidia video cards ...07:50
ZincXi guess07:50
ZincXlol07:50
=== Seveas uses ati :)
gangaleewhat all do you need in order to get konqueror to work?07:50
Despeehuses ati07:50
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Seveasgangalee, apt-get install konqueror07:50
Seveasnothing more :)07:50
gangaleewhat about dcop?07:50
ZincXwhats a konqueror ?07:51
frankkde's browser07:51
Seveasif konqueror depends on it, it will be installed07:51
HappyFoolgerman conqueror07:51
iceman2kWifes system runes Ubuntu ... waiting on my 64 bit system to migrate myself ..07:51
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ZincXoooh.. ok ..07:51
=== sproingie wouldn't call ati technologically better if opengl support is your metric
gangaleeI get this error: There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. The message returned by the system was: Could not read network connection list. ~/.DCOPserver_myhostname07:52
iceman2kAMD 64 2800, with a SOYO gaming case ...07:52
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frankwell the performance crown has been exchanged a few times and probably will be again07:52
sproingiei'd say ati and nvidia are neck and neck performance wise07:53
Neon|idlewow07:53
ZincXare there any nice strategy games to play on this system07:53
sproingiebut for linux, ati's practically a non-starter.  i say that as an ati owner07:53
ZincX??07:53
iceman2kDuel sli ... want to try that ...07:53
Neon|idleim stumpted already07:53
Neon|idleconfiguring wireless is hard work07:53
frankATI used to be the mainstream and sucked at performance but things have changed alot since then07:53
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Neon|idleany shed some light on getting my wireless network up and running on ubuntu, it is a supported card07:53
Neon|idlenetgear WG311T07:54
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HappyFoolZincX: you can try freeciv; it's a civilisation clone (turn-based)07:54
ZincX:S turn based.. doesnt sound nice07:54
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frankwell its civilisation07:54
macgyver2Wesnoth is an excellent strategy game too07:55
BrazilianHello, Holycow!! Are you there?07:55
sproingieit's the classic 3x game.  xplore, xpand, xterminate07:55
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macgyver2Still turn-based07:55
ZincX:S07:55
hacked``guys, i just bought a pcmcia wifi card, can i just plug it in and reboot and ubuntu will detect it ?07:55
stevenjI have about codecs-I read in the unbuntu wiki to drop codecs in /usr/local/lib/codecs and then make links to .gnome2/totem-addons. but can't you just drop codecs directly into .gnome2/totem-addons? whats the advantage to making links? thanks07:55
sproingiefreeciv's AI is supposed to be a lot better than the commercial game07:55
frankPanzer general was turn based and my friends still talk about startegy in specific scenarios!07:55
hacked``guys, are any of you using the madwifi driver ?07:55
gangaleeI had to start konqueror as root...07:56
HappyFoolstevenj: at a guess, other users (if you had any) could find them there07:56
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stevenjHappyFool, I see thanks07:56
BelutzHappyFool: hai!! how r u?07:57
ZincXSeveas, does ur cpu make noise ??07:57
ZincXlike this high pitched sound .??07:57
HappyFoolBelutz: hi there :). I'm doing well, how are you?07:57
catolhseems like linux doesnt like me turning on Shadows in doom3.. :p reeeally choppy performance07:57
frankcatolh: probably your card07:58
BelutzHappyFool: i'm fine too... getting more in love with ubuntu hehehe07:58
catolhfrank, an ati card.. :) so yeah.. probably07:58
BelutzZincX: it could be the processor's fan sound?07:58
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ZincXBelutz, im not so sure...07:58
BelutzZincX: i think it is, because my PC has that noise too07:58
ZincXwen im runnin linux for a cuple of hrs..07:59
catolhI dont like the fact that i cant play guildwars with cedega though.. :\ Alot of people have made it run with ATI cards.. :(07:59
frankany noise which is not fan nor drive is REALLY bad!07:59
ZincXit happens07:59
ZincXand then wen i off the monitor.. it goes off again07:59
ZincXwen i on it again.. it comes back07:59
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ZincXim thinkin sumthin to do with the graphix card o sumthin :S07:59
Neon|idlewhat is a kernal source file ?07:59
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Neon|idlecode for the kernel ?07:59
frankyeah07:59
HappyFoolNeon|idle: probably; in what context is this?08:00
deprave[tanyone experience hangups in the installation during primary installation repository setup?08:00
BelutzZincX: the graphic's card fan maybe ?08:00
Neon|idlewhere do i get that from, my nvidia mobo drivers wont install without it apparentlty08:00
BelutzZincX: maybe you should open up your CPU to find the source of the sound08:00
ZincXBelutz, no fan on the graphix card though.. its gigabyte ati .. doesnt produce heat that much08:00
Neon|idlemore concerned with setting up my wireless networking08:00
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frankNeon|idle: in synaptic / apt-get08:00
Neon|idle<- first time ive used linux :)08:00
Neon|idlebearing in mind im not online with the pc08:01
ZincXBelutz, its too high :S really disturbs the ear... cant trace the real source.. why wud i ask ?08:01
Neon|idleso it has to be downloadable via this pc08:01
overclocked_486hey, I'm having trouble with unmet dependencies likely because of an incorrect version of libc6. can anyone help?08:01
BelutzNeon|idle: welcome to the community :D08:01
uber_newbercan sum1 help me adjust my screen resolution? i got to sytem> preferences> and then to screen resolution but it wont let me change it from its current size which is 640x48008:01
elph0someone installed vlc in ubuntu?08:01
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HappyFoolNeon|idle: you probably need to install a package called 'linux-kernel-headers'; it should be on the CD08:01
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Neon|idlerighto08:02
frankelph0: i did, it works great08:02
BelutzZincX: i still curious about the processor's fan... but i donno...08:02
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ZincXyeah.. maybe08:02
ZincXand hears the funny thing..08:02
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HappyFoolNeon|idle: oops08:02
BelutzZincX: funny thing like what?08:02
ZincXwen i maximize xchat ... the noise is louder08:02
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ZincXand i minimize .. its softer08:02
frank???08:03
HappyFoolNeon|idle: it's linux-headers-386 (or -686, or -k7)08:03
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ZincXmaybe the monitor.. wacha think ??08:03
Neon|idleahok08:03
BelutzZincX: hmmm then it could be the PSU fan?08:03
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ZincXmaybe the resolution is too high.. for the monitor to handle...08:03
Neon|idleso it will be listed in synapse then ?08:03
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ZincXPSU fan ????????08:03
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franksynaptic, yeah do a search08:03
HappyFoolNeon|idle: in synaptic, yes08:03
elph0frank: where do you get the right packages ?08:03
uber_newbercan sum1 help me adjust my screen resolution? i got to sytem> preferences> and then to screen resolution but it wont let me change it from its current size which is 640x48008:03
ZincXnoowayy..08:03
macgyver2ZincX: My monitor used to do that...but only when it had been off for awhile and was warming up...08:03
samuraihi all08:03
frankelph0: from synaptic08:03
ZincXmacgyver2, hmm.. so must be the monitor aen ?08:04
elph0do you change the repositories?08:04
frankelph0: you need universe enabled probably08:04
Doonzhow can i check to see what type of ram a computer is running?08:04
elph0frank: how i do that?08:04
samuraican you install ubuntu hoary using nfs or ftp08:04
citrus_so my mouse just started tripin out and now its back to normal     if i moved it an inch it would fly all around the screen and open programs up and stuff   then it stopped  then it did it again after i rebooted my machine       and it stopped again....   anyone know why?08:04
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BelutzZincX: yup, it could be the monitor...08:04
ZincXyeah...08:04
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Jodamhey guys - I'm having problems with an install on a laptop - I can boot from the ubuntu CD, but when I press enter to get on it just stops dead after the following two lines:08:04
ZincXsux.. sum leadtek :S08:04
ZincXthingy08:05
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Jodam ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initrd... not found!08:05
JodamACPI: setting elcr to 0200 (from 0800)08:05
Neon|idleHappyFool: unfortunatly it wants to get online, so i think i need to sort my wireless network first :S08:05
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BelutzZincX: i think you should check it before anything bad happened08:05
raptorMy computer will not boot from a cd.......how do i make a boot disk for it?08:05
frankelph0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:05
HappyFoolNeon|idle: that package should be on the cd; let me check08:05
elph0frank: thnx man ... i will try08:06
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Jodamanyone ever experience anything like that?08:06
Neon|idleHappyFool: well i edited a file, sources.list and uncommented some stuff, should i recomment it out for it to look locally you think?08:06
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ZincXBelutz, yeah.. maybe the thing mite blow up :S08:06
pippijnhi all08:06
citrus_is anyone connecting to ares of openft thru giftd?08:07
samuraiis there any other alternative installation method when the cdrom drive can not be identified?08:07
BelutzZincX: well hope that didn't happened08:07
citrus_or*08:07
HappyFoolNeon|idle: if you don't have a network connection, there's no point in having network (http:// or ftp://) entries in sources.list08:07
ZincXnot yet08:07
HappyFoolJodam: i think you can turn acpi off; let me see if there's anything on the wiki regardin that08:07
uber_newbercan sum1 help me adjust my screen resolution? i got to sytem> preferences> and then to screen resolution but it wont let me change it from its current size which is 640x48008:08
Jodamthanks08:08
Neon|idleHappyFool: true, although id like to configure my wirelss so i can use it08:08
drummerHi, can someone help me with printer driver problem?08:08
HappyFoolJodam: sorry, I have to make a phone call -- look yourself (wiki.ubuntu.com) or ask me again later08:08
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Crusty87hi08:08
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JodamI will, thanks08:08
Crusty87j #ubuntu.de08:08
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phimicmoin08:09
reaperhey i neeeeeed hellllllllllp08:09
Seveasreaper, read the topic08:09
Seveasjust ask :)08:09
phimicmy debian crashed, i installed ubuntu and08:10
phimici am very happy :)08:10
Seveasphimic, welcome aboard :)08:10
reapermy pc keeps changing screen size automatically08:10
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phimicubuntu is great thank u08:10
drummerSeveas: I asked and haven't gotten a response.08:10
reaperi finally got it to use 1280x1024 and it worked fine for a while08:10
Seveasdrummer, maybe no one knew08:10
drummerHmm - well how about now?08:11
bionicdrummer, i think you have to say what the printer driver problem is? :)08:11
Seveasdrummer, dunno, what was the question :)08:11
reapernow every time i restart i have to change resolution then change it back to get the right screen size08:11
reaperctrl alt + dont work anymore08:12
drummerOk I have an HP and when i attempt to print from say open opffice - it does not print.08:12
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drummerThe printer says it's processing a job then stops.08:12
Seveasreaper, you mean the resolution is fine when you start but somehow misplaced?08:12
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deprave[tanyone experience hangups in the installation during primary installation repository setup?08:12
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reaperits just the screen gets really big08:13
reaperresolution is still set when i check it08:13
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puffmorning.08:13
reaperbut if i change res it goes to the correct size08:13
Seveasdeprave[t, what kind of network connection do you have?08:13
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Seveasreaper, are you using Hoary?08:13
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reaperyes08:13
puffSo i got unbuntu installed on my thinkpad (yay).08:14
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Seveasreaper, paste your xorg.conf on a pastebin please08:14
uber_newbercan sum1 help me adjust my screen resolution? i got to sytem> preferences> and then to screen resolution but it wont let me change it from its current size which is 640x48008:14
puffTyping this from my thinkpad now, in fact.  However, is there another option that Applications/System Tools/Terminal?08:14
Seveasuber_newber: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:14
reaperhow do i do that08:14
Seveaspuff, rightclick on the desktop, select open terminal08:15
uber_newberSeveas: thanx again dude08:15
puffI mainly need an ssh window that won't intercept my alt or ctrl keys.08:15
reaperk08:15
Seveaspuff, or hit <alt><f2> and type gnome-terminal08:15
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reaperk08:15
Seveasreaper, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is the pastebin for this channel08:15
drummerSeveas: can you point me in the right direction on the above printing problem?08:16
Neon|idledoes anyone have any information about setting up a WG311T wireless network card ? it says its supported but i cant find any guides/info08:16
reaperk08:16
puffSeveas:  Those both appear to run the same terminal program.    Is there a way to a) run this terminal wihtout it intercepting alt/ctrl keys meant for the terminal session, and b) up the font size in the terminal?08:16
Seveasdrummer, unfortunately not08:16
drummerSeaveas:  I was using Suse before and the printer drivers worked fine.08:17
Seveaspuff, yes you can use <ctrl>- or ctrl>+ for the latter08:17
Seveasor use its preferences08:17
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Seveasand you can disable the most annoying intercepts08:17
drummerIn Ubuntu though I'm having all kinds of issues.08:17
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BelutzSeveas: why <ctrl>- and <ctrl>+ won't work on my ubuntu?08:17
raptorI NEED HELP......the computer i have wont boot from a cd and i cannot find ne information on how to make a boot disk for ubuntu08:18
drummerOk - I guess there's no one on this IRC channel who can help I'll try the boards.08:18
elph0frank: i installed here... vlc working... but sound not08:18
j_fletcheri just downloaded a certain rar file from newsgroups08:18
SeveasBelutz, it works only in the gnome terminal08:18
elph0frank: its alsa compatible?08:18
j_fletcherits a file of many rars08:18
reaperhow do i copy it all08:19
j_fletcherbut they all need to be extracted into one file08:19
pippijnhey08:19
j_fletcheron windows this was easy, but on linux, not so08:19
pippijnI can't send mails to the world08:19
pippijnbut I can receive mails from the world08:19
pippijnhow do I send mails to the world?08:19
BelutzSeveas: you mean not in gnome window manager?08:19
SeveasBelutz, no08:19
GerriallMy Ubuntu on my laptop in the dock comes up and starts X but the display is scrambled. Can I get to a CLI from this stage?08:19
sproingiej_fletcher: when rar becomes open source, you might see it become more flexible08:19
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HappyFoolj_fletcher: maybe 'unrar-nonfree' is what you want; it's in ubuntu's multiverse repository08:19
BelutzSeveas: ic... thx, i got new knowledge :D08:19
j_fletcherthanks guys08:20
Seveaspippijn, you wil need to set a correct domain naim in /etc/domainname and /etc/postfix/main.cf08:20
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reaperSeveas how do i copy it all08:20
Neon|idle Atheros AR521208:20
Neon|idle08:20
ryandid anybody ever get an answer for turning off minimize animations?08:20
Seveasreaper, open it in a text editoe08:20
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Seveaseditor*08:20
Neon|idlehow do you go about installing this ?08:20
pippijnSeveas, my domain name is xinutec.mine.nu08:20
Seveasand select all and copy :)08:20
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pippijnSeveas, echo xinutec.mine.nu > /etc/domainname08:20
pippijnthat?08:20
Neon|idleapparently i need to input the WAP settings, but its not been detected at ath008:21
SeveasNeon|idle, should work out of the box08:21
Neon|idleive got sit008:21
salilhey guys.. where can i get p2p softwares for ubuntu..??08:21
Seveaspippijn, that and edit main.cf08:21
Neon|idleyes, maybe i missed something, because its not working :P08:21
SeveasNeon|idle, you use WEP or WPA?08:21
pippijnmyhostname = xinutec.mine.nu08:21
Neon|idleerm08:21
Neon|idlethe access key one08:21
pippijnSeveas, I have that08:21
bastisalil http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4208408:21
salildoes anyone know..?08:21
SeveasNeon|idle, both are :)08:21
Neon|idleWPA08:22
Neon|idleyou think thats causing the problem then?08:22
Seveaspippijn, in /etc/postfix/main.cf change the value for myhostname08:22
salilthanks basti.08:22
pippijnpippijn, I have it08:22
SeveasNeon|idle, yes, WPA support is still cranky, maybe wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto can help you08:22
pippijnit is already set08:22
reaperSeveas u got it08:22
pippijndpkg-preconfigure did it for me08:23
Seveaspippijn, then restart postfix and done :)08:23
Neon|idlecool, thanks08:23
pippijnSeveas, it was already there08:23
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Seveaspippijn, but the /etc/mailname wasn't :)08:23
pippijndomainname08:23
cjnodellhello.08:24
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cjnodellI have a few questions08:24
Seveasecho xinutec.mine.nu > /etc/mailname08:24
Seveas^-- pippijn08:24
pippijnmailname?08:24
pippijnok08:24
salilpart from DC++ is there any othe softwares like limewire or something like that..?08:25
bastiyeah08:25
cjnodellI just installed linux-wlan-ng and linux-wlan-docs with synaptic, where will i find the documentation?08:25
Seveasreaper, that file looks OK, file a bug on bugzilla.ubuntu.com please. Describe the error as clear as possible and attach this file08:25
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basticheck sourceforge for that salil08:25
hacked``guys, are any of you using the madwifi driver ?08:25
Seveassalil, gtk-gnutella08:25
Seveas(oslt)08:25
Seveashacked``, I am08:25
pippijnSeveas, that was already there08:25
Neon|idlewhere can i get the wpasupplicant package from ?08:25
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pippijnSeveas, I heard something about a reverse map08:26
pippijnwhere do I set that?08:26
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MartenHNeon|idle: apt-get install wpa_supplicant08:26
cjnodellAnybody?08:26
saliland.. how do i know which distribution to d'load..?08:26
hacked``seveas, was it hard to do ?08:26
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Seveaspippijn, you should use the domainname as assigned by your provider in the configuration08:26
Neon|idleyes08:26
Neon|idlebut im not online08:26
Neon|idlehence my problem08:26
Seveas(if the .mine.nu thong does not work)08:26
Neon|idlei need to be able to download it to this pc and copy it over08:27
pippijnSeveas, it must work because it works for someone else at mine.nu too08:27
SeveasNeon|idle, , then download it on another pc from packages.ubuntu.com08:27
Neon|idleah genius08:27
Neon|idlelove you ;P08:27
hacked``seveas, does ubuntu come with madwifi08:27
humei installed nfs to mount files on a server, but found out that my user have different uids on the machines - do i need to set up a NIS to solve this, or is there easier solutions?08:27
Seveaspippijn, then restart postfix now to see whether the .mine.nu address works08:27
Seveashacked``, yes08:27
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reaperSeveas i just noticed i have 2 xorg.conf files one has my original settings and one with my new res u think that could be the prob08:28
Seveasreaper, only the one named /etc/X11/xorg.conf is used08:28
Seveashume, the easier solution is to change the UID on one of the systems08:28
cjnodellI just installed linux-wlan-ng and linux-wlan-docs with synaptic, where will i find the documentation?08:29
Seveascjnodell, /usr/share/doc/linux-wlan-docs/08:29
HappyFoolcjnodell: probably /usr/share/doc/linux-wlan-ng08:29
humeSeveas, can I just change UID without creating a new user and doing all that work?08:29
Neon|idlethanks for all the help guys08:29
Neon|idleappreciate it08:29
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Seveashume, possibly, but you would need to chown all files for the affected users too08:29
Hoxzerhmm... how do I mount windows shares?08:29
SeveasHoxzer: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically08:30
salilhelp me out on something guys..08:30
Hoxzercoold08:30
Hoxzercool08:30
salilwhere do i get bluetooth drivers..??08:30
Gochfulshigan...08:30
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reaperSeveas they both say that08:30
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hacked``seveas, i just bought a pcmcia (orinoco gold) wifi card, can i just plug it in and reboot and ubuntu will detect it and install the madwifi drivers ?08:31
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Seveashacked``, you can even skip the reboot.08:31
Seveasbut orinoco isn't madwifi08:31
Seveasatheros is madwifi08:31
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anacronarrg, what was the wiki for enabling 3d support, like nvidia and ati08:33
Seveasanacron: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support08:33
Seveasargh wrong one :)08:33
Seveasanacron: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:33
mjrsev :)08:33
anacron:D08:33
anacron"whoops wrong button"08:34
MyrttiOK08:34
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MyrttiI managed to install Java, but the program I'm trying to run says "line 1: java/jre1.5.0_04_linux/bin/java: No such file or directory"08:35
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SeveasMyrtti, what are you trying to run?08:35
salilanyone know how to configure bluetooth adapter..????08:35
Seveasand how did you install java?08:35
Seveassalil, there is some info about that on wiki.ubuntu.com08:35
hacked``seveas, what are you talking about08:35
MyrttiI'm at Assembly Organizing and I was trying to run wandora, a software used for adding pictures to the media gallery08:36
MyrttiI installed the Java according to wiki's instructions08:36
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hacked``seveas, Orinoco Gold 8470-WD08:36
hacked``its listed in http://madwifi.sourceforge.net/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=compatibility_list08:36
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Seveasreally....08:37
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Seveashacked``, ah, that orinoco card uses an Atheros chip08:37
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SeveasMyrtti, what is the output of: java -version08:38
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Myrtti1.5.0_04, build 1.5.0_04-b05, HotSpot mixed mode, sharing08:39
Myrttito say it shortly08:40
Seveasthat's correct08:40
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Seveasso apparently your application is faulty08:40
equex can one ask kubuntu/kde questions here ? (#kubuntu seems deserted)08:40
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Seveasequex, sure08:40
anacronis there a command to update my 686 kernel into 64bit with atp-get?08:40
Myrttiorr....08:40
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tritiumMyrtti, looks like it may be a shell script, and it's looking for java in the wrong place.  Try fixing the path08:41
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uber_newberSeveas: what was the site on the screen resolution08:41
Seveasanacron, no, you need other versions of *all* packages if you go 64bit08:41
Seveaswhich simply means a reinstall08:41
Seveasuber_newber: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:41
humeSeveas, is there a way to change the user namne for the user uid=1000?08:41
dekkethi. I just installed ubuntu, and the installation neglected to let me specify a root pwd, anyone know what the default is?08:41
Seveashume, elog that user out, login as root and edit /etc/fstan and /etc/shadow08:41
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Seveas/etc/passwd and /etc/shadow and /etc/gorup I mean08:42
tritiumdekket, that was not neglect, but rather intentional08:42
uber_newberthanx08:42
Seveas/etc/group*08:42
equexhow does the KMenu actually work ? does it have an internal list over installed apps, and then uses applications-kmenuedit.menu as a "filter" to produce the final menu structure ? i was wondering, because a fresh Kubuntu install has no applications-kmenuedit.menu, but it appears it is not safe to delete it when it has been first created. i need to know, because i need to find a safe way to edit the menu (Keditmenu fails too much)08:42
anacronSeveas: okay, i have 64bit cd, but i have only usb-cdrom right now, and this new pc doesn't boot from it for some reason08:42
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dekketintentional? hmm ok08:42
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tritiumdekket, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:42
dekketokay08:42
Seveasequex, kde and gnome both adhere to the freedesktop.org standard nowadays, that means that .desktop files are used to build up the menu08:43
dekketkinda used to native debian so...08:43
dekketthanks for the help08:43
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Seveasequex, try 'slocate .desktop' in the terminal08:43
samuraican you use nfs to install ubuntu... its not listed as an installation option, but debian can so I was just curious08:43
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stevenjI have a strange issue-when I try to view properties of a mp3 (to assign all mp3s to open with beep)-nautilus locks up and I have to kill it--any suggestions?08:44
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equexSeveas, aha i see.. that was what i first tried tinkering with, until i discovered keditmeu08:44
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DerkommissarHello08:44
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Seveasstevenj, file a bug (if you van get more infOo)08:44
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LalaineHi08:45
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stevenjSeveas, i will just wondering if there is another method to assign mp3s to a certain player08:45
Seveassamurai, the ubuntu installer uses a CD or a remote repository by default, you can use an apache server on your local network. If you want to use no install cd you can use PXE to boot the installer08:45
Hoxzercan I somehow setup PHP script to run commands to linux?08:46
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Seveasstevenj, I guess there is, but don't know it myself, sorry08:46
SeveasHoxzer, do you mean running php scripts from the shell or running programs from php?08:47
CoffeeBreaksanyone knows where fo find packages like libdvdcss? I followed the unoficial guide but nothing is found in the multiverse/universe repositories.08:47
samuraiSeveas: thanks, I can boot the initial installer from CD, but when it tries to recognize hardware it doesn't see it. Thats why I'm pursuing an alternative. Once the machine is up I won't need the cd at all..08:47
Seveasthe latter works by default08:47
HappyFoolCoffeeBreaks: look at the restrictedformats wiki page; i think it's at backports hoary-extras08:47
SeveasCoffeeBreaks, libdvdcss2 is in hoary-extras from backports (and ubuntuguide is quite a bad thing at certain points)08:47
HappyFool!restricted08:47
ubotuI guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:47
HoxzerSeveas: running programs from PHP08:47
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SeveasHoxzer, that should work out of the box, browse through http://www.php.net/manual/en/ to find out which php functions to use08:48
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Hoxzerk08:48
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Seveasraptor, please turn that obnoxious script off in here08:48
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stevenjSeveas, just so you know...finally found others in a forum that had the same problem...they say a reboot fixes it. hmm well gonna try it08:49
patrickjello, whats the best bittorrent client for linux?08:50
bionicazereus imo08:50
Seveasazureus is nice indeed08:50
bionicazureus that is08:50
desrtgnome bittorrent :)08:50
bionicI do use ABC with crossover plugin too, works smooth :)08:50
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CoffeeBreaksI have hoary-extras in my sources.list08:51
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CoffeeBreaksbut not dvdcss08:51
Seveaslibdvdcss208:51
dsl1000btdownloadcurses, if you wanna control it through command line08:52
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CoffeeBreaksno libdvdcss2 (note I am an experienced Debian user). Note: I am on amd64. Could that be an issue?08:53
SeveasCoffeeBreaks, eh yeah08:53
dsl1000here is a question for you: emacs does not seem to be a package by default. does anyone have a smooth solution to get it running on hoary?08:53
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Seveasbackports has almost no amd64 support08:53
Seveasdsl1000, emacs2108:53
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Seveasthat's the package08:54
CoffeeBreaksargggg08:54
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dsl1000seveas: thanks :)08:54
drcodehi a;;08:54
mario__hi all08:54
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drcodeis there like vmware that support 3d acclarator ?08:55
drcodeI Want to install vmware in windows and use vmware with linux (+ 3d accalrator)?08:55
^thehatsrule^yes vmware can08:55
mario__I found a bug with gnome-terminal and top (segment fault). Where can I register this?08:55
drcodevmware can do it for windows only08:55
drcodenot linux08:55
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drcodeI read in there site08:55
holycowdrcode, there is no 3dacceleration via vmware08:56
drcodeif the gust is windows08:56
HappyFoolmario__: bugzilla.ubuntu.com08:56
holycowat all08:56
holycowfor any os08:56
Seveasmario__, please make sure you have enough info about it (saying that it segfaults is NOT enough)08:56
drcodeis there some other soft that there is ?08:56
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patrickjwell...azureus is downloading my err...Linux slow08:56
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holycowno virtualization environment that works like vmware no08:56
^thehatsrule^drcode / holycow: yes there is but you have to compile the driver yourself08:56
holycowno there isn't08:57
frankholycow: there can be some dx7 acceleration if you enable it. Maybe only for windows host, though08:57
patrickjDo you think unreal yournament would work well on my system?08:57
^thehatsrule^only RH has it in vmwaretools08:57
holycowhost os doesn't have direct access to the hardware08:57
mario__mmmhhh08:57
drcodek08:57
CoffeeBreaksok I got libdvdcss2 using /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh08:57
^thehatsrule^holycow: well i had it on mine... so08:57
drcodeand what I Can do in ubuntu?08:57
patrickjCeleron D 2.4 533FSB, 768M Ram, ATi Radeon 9200 SE08:57
holycowogl acceleration?08:57
^thehatsrule^yes08:57
^thehatsrule^maybe its software08:57
Despeeheasilly08:57
mario__a debuger could be??08:57
holycowi find this hard to believe08:57
^thehatsrule^did you compile your own driver?08:58
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drcodeis there software like vmware/virtual pc with 3d acclartor support?08:58
drcodeunder windows?08:58
HappyFoolmario__: gdb, or ddd08:58
holycow^thehatsrule^, the vmware drivers make no difference if you compile them your self or use the ones included in ubuntu08:58
holycowthey are effectively the same08:58
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patrickjI have an Asus Video Card, with a Radeon 9200 VPU, should I use the ATi graphic drivers?08:58
holycowthe problem is that the client os has no direct access to the hardware08:58
dekketubuntu didn't install the wlan adapter during install, are there tools in ubuntu to determine what is and what is not installed?08:59
^thehatsrule^no theyre different cause its vmware's own08:59
drcodein there vmware site thay say it work on;y in windows guest08:59
holycowwhats happening is the vmware drivers are talking to the windows drivers ...08:59
holycowwhat drivers are you talking about then?08:59
patrickjand if so where can I obtain the drivers?08:59
mario__ok, I try  gdb08:59
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mario__I'll try sorry ; )09:00
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dawnfadinghi all09:01
Seveashi dawnfading09:01
steve-owho can help with valknut install ?09:01
dawnfadingi got a small question qbout soun din (k)ubuntu09:01
patrickjyay I figured out how to mass convert my music to ogg :D09:01
holycowhttp://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/ws_vidsound_d3d_limitations.html  <-- oh i see09:01
steve-oim in dead-end :-(09:01
holycowmaybe thats new then09:01
dawnfadingxmms qnd music plqyer don't give sound09:01
Seveasdawnfading, just ask :)09:02
Seveasah damn, too late :)09:02
dawnfadinghow should i go qbout troubleshooting this?09:02
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holycowat least partial support i guess is better than none09:02
holycowcool09:02
Seveasdawnfading: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound09:02
drcodeyes09:02
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drcodethay say vmware support on;y 3d if gust is windows09:03
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dawnfadingis that the plugin xmms?09:03
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dawnfadingthe funny thing is, sometimes i get mp3s to play fine, but streams are a lost cause09:03
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drcodeso I can't  use 3d acclartor with vmware09:04
Seveasdawnfading, that is weird....09:04
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frankdrcode: can it do linux host, windows guest, dx7->opengl conversion?09:04
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dawnfadingfor instance in music player i get the error 'could not ope the resource for writing09:04
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Sputn1kwhen i compiling gimp 2.3.0, i get error: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check09:04
Sputn1kSee `config.log' for more details.09:04
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SeveasSputn1k, sudo aptitude install build-essential09:05
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james_Does anyone have some good sources for configuring dual head monitors.  ?09:05
drcodenop09:05
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Sputn1kSeveas: thx09:06
dekketjames_: a matrox card?09:06
james_Sorry, nvidia 5700 dual head and work wise Nvidia Quadro Pro09:07
dekketcan't remember where, but there are hacks for dualhead cards09:07
dekketoh ok09:07
dawnfadingdoes the music player also use ALSA?09:07
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moparfan90whats a good text editor that has programming stuff09:09
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Sputn1khow to fix it: XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is require d for intltool09:09
wdhmoparfan90, gedit?09:10
highvoltagemoparfan90: jed, vim, emacs...09:10
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catolhis there any way to remove the Mesa Opengl stuff?.. It seems the ATI driver installer cant replace it09:11
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puffHow do I get terminal to ignore alt-commands?09:11
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hybrid_gothpuff: good with scripting?09:11
comforteaglewhat mail server should I install.. I want to be able to send mail from this machine as a website.09:11
puffhybrid_goth: Depends on the scripting language.09:12
hybrid_gothcomforteagle: you want to do webmail?09:12
hybrid_gothpuff: bash scripting09:12
comforteaglehybrid_goth, no, just send mail from a webapp.09:12
hybrid_goththat would be the best way09:12
puffhybrid_goth: I can usually muddle through, though I wouldn't claim "good'09:12
ompaulpuff, edit - keyboard scripting - tick the boxes :)09:12
steve-oIm trying to install valknut (valknut_0.3.7-1_i386.deb) and as I watched manual , it needs libdc0_0.3.7-2_i386 .... when im typing "dpkg -i libdc..." it says  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdc.so.0.0.1', ... what should I do ? please help ;\09:12
hybrid_gothcomforteagle: err postfix?09:12
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comforteaglehybrid_goth, like user email confirmation for a webapp09:12
puffkeyboard shortcuts?09:12
steve-o*** Im doing it all under root terminal09:13
ompaulpuff, them in a terminal09:13
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hybrid_gothcomforteagle: like squirell mail09:13
comforteaglehybrid_goth, no like drupal09:13
puffcomforteagle: I'm no MTA expert, but... all the MTA experts I go to for help tell me to run postfix .09:13
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hacked``guys, how do i know which driver my wifi card is using09:13
comforteaglepuff: ok cool09:13
ompaulthere is no MTA like a postfix MTA - unless you are running hundreds of thousands of addresses most sysadmins I know use posftix09:14
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djp!dma09:14
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puffompaul: Hm, it doesn't let me selectively disable  the ones that are bothering me (alt-b, alt-v) but ican just disable them all, so that's cool.  Thanks.09:15
Bac9can someone help me get hylafax to autoanswer fax calls?09:15
ompaulpuff, enjoy09:15
maneyI think I ran into this before - the online docs talk about opening applications:/// in nautilus in order to edit the menu, but that's some sort of version-ago leftover, isn't it?  any clues about what, if anything, works for that in Hoary?09:15
Seveasmaney, for hoary you can use smeg09:16
test34I have DSL modem, and when I access a web page sometimes it shows the modem configuration page instead of the web page I asked for.. If I try to reload it, it works fine.. but then it can do it again 2 minutes later.. (I use firefox..)09:16
maneysmeg?09:16
Amaranth!smeg09:16
ubotuI heard smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.09:16
Seveashttp://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg09:16
steve-o!valknut09:16
ubotusteve-o: No idea09:16
maneyoh, so this is something that deosn't actually exist in Hoary?09:16
Seveasubotu valknut is a Direct Connect client, in Ubuntu the package containing Valknut is dcgui-qt09:16
ubotuokay, Seveas09:16
patrickjso...when did Hoary come out?09:17
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ompaulpatrickj, april something09:17
bastiI find this very strange, I can play mp3s in that buttugly rhytmbox but when I start them in xmms or beep mediaplayer that program just freezes ..?09:17
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dabaRhi.09:17
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patrickjcrap....still got like 2-3 months till breezy :/09:17
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elshadabar returns!09:17
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maneywhat a crock09:18
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ompaulpatrickj, well that is the way of the world, what is the problem for you that you want breezy now?09:18
patrickjso breezy should be outseptember something09:18
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Seveaspatrickj: A new Ubuntu version is released every six months (in april and october). Each release is supported for at least 18 months with security updates.09:18
patrickjompaul: nothing really09:18
dabaRthe dabar always comes back.09:18
dabaRlike a boomerang09:18
test34could that problem be caused by firefox being upgraded without first uninstalling the old version ?09:18
patrickjim converting 145 songs to OGG:/09:19
patrickjthis will take a while09:19
bastitest34, what problem?09:19
Seveasbasti: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound09:19
patrickjactually i should Just leave em to be MP#09:19
patrickjMP309:19
test34basti: I have DSL modem, and when I access a web page sometimes it shows the modem configuration page instead of the web page I asked for.. If I try to reload it, it works fine.. but then it can do it again 2 minutes later.. (I use firefox..)09:19
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Seveasbasti, did you use a backported version of firefox before?09:20
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steve-o!backports09:20
ubotuI guess backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted09:20
ompaulpatrickj, well it will be oct - if you take it that warty was 0ct 2004 and six months later we have hoary so guess it is six months after that09:20
bastiSeveas, yeah why?09:20
patrickjompaul: I guess so :|09:20
desrtsteve-o; so..... what's the difference between official backports and the normal backports?09:20
Seveasbasti, name mixup, I meant test3409:21
bastik :)09:21
Seveasdesrt, 'normal' backports are now official09:21
patrickjis kubuntu any good?09:21
desrtoh09:21
desrtexactly the same stuff, just in an official repo?09:21
Seveaspatrickj, if you like KDE it's ok09:21
dabaRtest34: what page? for the router?09:21
patrickjSeveas: kdes a bloated hunk of eye candy09:21
desrtSeveas; any plans for hoary-extras?09:21
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patrickjhey, is it possible to use Kdevelop in gnome?09:22
desrtpatrickj; yes09:22
Seveaspatrickj, sure09:22
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Seveaswhat's kile?09:22
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patrickjis kdevelop in the repos?09:22
Seveasyup09:22
ompaulSeveas, latex in a gui09:22
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Seveasompaul, ah09:22
Turricanis any one from germany here ?09:22
SeveasI need nothing more than vim for that :)09:22
Seveasand for a gui: gvim ;)09:22
CoffeeBreaksand for the curious I am building my missing amd64 packages from source09:23
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SeveasTurrican, in #ubuntu-de there are a lot of germans :)09:23
dabaRgvim??:)09:23
Seveasvim with a gui09:23
Seveasit exists :)09:23
Seveaspackage vim-gnome09:23
HappyFoolyeah, vi heard of X at last :P09:23
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ompauland a bicycle repair man09:23
Seveas:)09:23
dabaRinstalled...:)09:24
BelutzHappyFool, Seveas: how could i be an ubuntu guru like you? :D09:24
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jeffbrownwhat kernel version is currently bundled with the latest ubuntu?09:25
desrt2.6.12-409:25
HappyFool2.6.1009:25
desrtwith all sorts of goodies from 2.6.1309:25
SeveasBelutz, use linux a lot, experiment with it, break it a lot and repair it. And stay in here to read questions and answers. And read lots of documentation :)09:25
frank2.6.1009:25
ompauljeffbrown, when you say latest, is that latest release or latest development?09:26
Seveasjeffbrown, the latest stable ubuntu uses 2.6.10, the development version 2.6.1209:26
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Seveas:)09:26
BelutzSeveas: i don't have a heart to break my ubuntu... not like my windows huehuehue i break it a lot :p09:26
rgouldI am thinking of buying a laptop and using Ubuntu as the primary OS. Does anyone have any recommendations for brands/models?09:26
BelutzSeveas: maybe if i have a spare PC :D09:26
Seveasrgould, hp's are good IBM thinkpads too09:27
Belutzrgould: IBM Thinkpad is a good choice i think :)09:27
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hybrid_gothrgould: iBook G309:27
rgouldcan't go iBook :(09:27
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Belutzrgould: i'm using NEC, and have problems with it09:27
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Seveasoh yeah, Ubuntu loves ibooks :)09:27
hybrid_gothSeveas: yes all *debians do ;)09:28
coreyohow do I get grub to install itself back into one of my partitions?  Can the ubuntu install cd be used as a rescue cd for this?09:28
rgouldactually, I might be able to go ibook - but that is something else i need to look into09:28
Belutzrgould: sorry, i mean i have no problems with it09:28
rgouldBelutz, oh, ok :) thanks for the clarification09:28
linuksoDoes suspend or hibernate work on iBooks?09:28
frank!recover09:28
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, recover is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows09:28
Seveascoreyo, it can, use 'rescue' as boot option09:28
rgouldWe have a couple sony vaios kicking around the office, but it sounds like that is a bad idea to go. I might try the live cd on them though.09:28
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hybrid_gothrgould: the only problem is the software base inst as big as x8609:28
Seveasand read the url ubotu just spit out :)09:28
rgouldright09:28
Belutzrgould: i also tried on Toshiba A10 and Compaq Presario and Ubuntu runs well09:28
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ompaulhmm09:28
hybrid_gothlinukso: with work it does but not ootb09:28
coreyoSeveas: I tried that, but it keeps telling me that it cannot mount /dev/sda6 as the root partition and panics09:29
ompaulscare in a nice way09:29
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rgouldawesome, thanks everyone09:29
Seveascoreyo, hmm, you might need to use a live cd then09:29
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coreyoSeveas: if I use the live cd, am I supposed to mount everything and chroot into it?09:29
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linuksohybrid_goth: ok. I am dreaming of a linux-laptop where everything works out the box...09:30
Seveasyup09:30
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Seveasthe process is described on that wikipage ubotu gave09:30
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dimcan anybody help me making my soundcard work?09:30
patrickjhey I installed GVim too :D09:30
Seveasdim, depends on what the problem is09:30
dimI don't know what the problem is09:30
Seveashehe :)09:31
dimI just don't have any sound09:31
ompauldim maybe you have to tell people what kind of sound card you have and if there is any onboard sound09:31
Seveasno system sounds too?09:31
treviwhistle09:31
coreyoSeveas: what are grub commands for having grub install itself onto a given partition?09:31
Seveasdim, perform this command in a terminal and paste the output in a private chat: ls -al /dev | grep dsp09:31
dimsound card is : VIA 82xx09:31
test34dabaR, yes the router page for configuration....09:31
Seveascoreyo read that wikipage09:31
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Seveasit's grub-install '(hdx,y)' in grub syntax09:32
test34Seveas what you mean a backported version of firefox ?09:32
Seveasbut you need some things like proc and dev in your chroot :)09:32
coreyoSeveas: I'm looking for it now, what's it titled?09:32
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Seveastest34, dpkg -l '*firefox*' paste the output on a pastebin09:32
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Seveascoreyo, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoverinUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows09:33
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tha_gamemasteri reinstalled going to hoary from warty and now neither vlc or mplayer plays dvds, and have the extra repositories installed09:33
dimseveas: how do i make a private chat?09:33
tha_gamemasterooops warty to hoary*09:33
test34Seveas I will have to come back later.. I don't have the computer with me, thanks for your help09:33
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tha_gamemasteroh wait that's what i said... it' early09:33
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apollo2011Hi everyone!09:34
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tha_gamemasterhi apollo201109:34
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Belutzwb nalioth :)09:34
patrickjdabaR: Im going back to openbox ;)09:34
patrickj! openbox09:35
ubotupatrickj: I don't know, could you explain it?09:35
patrickj! openbox howto09:35
ubotuWish i knew, patrickj09:35
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patrickjugh wheres the howto for openbox guys?09:35
coreyoSeveas: thanks.  Sorry... I'm a lilo guy until recently09:35
patrickj! howto openbox09:35
ubotupatrickj: Wish i knew09:35
jasoncohentha_gamemaster, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss209:35
dabaRha. ya, me too:) there was this one guy last night, he had a very customied openbox menu, like three levels09:35
tha_gamemasterjasoncohen, thanks!09:35
dabaRpatrickj /msg ubotu question09:35
jasoncohentha_gamemaster, adding extra repositories isn't enough. you need to install libdvdcss2 to decrypt commercial DVDs...though i don't understand why the package would be removed09:36
MyrttiSeveas: I got it working09:36
Myrttithanks09:36
tha_gamemasterjasoncohen, for somereason i thought it installed it by default.09:36
ompaulpatrickj,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3423909:36
tha_gamemasterjasoncohen, as a dependency09:36
bastiif I want to remove everything written in a terminal is there any command better than clear?09:36
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patrickjlol thanks09:36
Seveasbasti, no :)09:36
ryanwhat's a good cpu tester for debian?09:36
jasoncohentha_gamemaster, no- it's not a dependency. it's in hoary-extras because it's not legal in the US09:36
bastiok ;P09:36
ryani.e., burn in test, no so much benchmark09:37
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tha_gamemasterjasoncohen, Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate09:37
jasoncohentha_gamemaster, you need to add hoary-extras09:37
jasoncohen!multimedia repositories09:37
ubotumethinks multimedia repositories is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories09:37
dabaRnice, ompaul .09:37
ompauldabaR, what is?09:37
naliothryan: get "The Ultimate Boot CD" it has all kinds of burn-in stuff09:37
dabaRthe forum page09:37
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jasoncohentha_gamemaster, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories09:37
ompauldabaR, ahh okay09:38
dabaRokay...09:38
ryananything that doesn't require a boot disk?09:38
dabaR;)09:38
equexis it normal for linux to appear to use a VM the size of the physical ram ? :p09:38
apollo2011I installed Ubuntu on my laptop, and I am having some minor problems.  I think I have gotten all the hardware working, however, when I try to boot it without it being in the base station, it takes forever to boot because it tries to initialize hardware components that are not connected to it.  In particular, it takes unusually long while it is loading the "modules" (thats what it says, shortly after mounting the root partition and the kernel) and wh09:38
apollo2011en it is configuring the network connection (I dont have one then)09:38
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naliothryan: not that i know of09:38
dabaRryan: like a network install?09:38
dabaRoh, sorry09:38
ryanheh09:38
dabaRnothing09:38
apollo2011can I do somethint to speed it up when it is booting and this hardware doesn't exist?09:38
ryannp09:38
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levanderHow do I boot into single user mode?09:38
ryanI know there's a couple for windows, basically just running a whole wack of fp calcs and checking for errors once in a while09:39
tha_gamemasterjasoncohen, thanks09:39
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Seveasapollo2011, you can hit <ctrl>C to abort network connection09:39
jasoncohen!multimedia09:39
ubotumethinks multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia09:39
ompaulapollo2011, the issue here is one of trying to get dhcp together I had a solution for it - it had to do with finding the timeout on the dhcp side and then lowering it09:39
Seveaslevander, choose recovery mode in the boot menu09:39
jasoncohentha_gamemaster, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia for more information09:39
ompaulapollo2011, or as Seveas said that works very well :)09:40
levanderSeveas: okay, since my system is runninga already, is it just "init 1" to go down into single user mode?09:40
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Seveaslevander, you can do that :)09:40
levanderokay, gonna try it09:40
dabaRthat eclipse is so frustrating, it is nice in its features, but is totally ridiculous in its memory usage/speed - Java...09:40
ompaulapollo2011, when you want to connect to a network afterward you run this in a terminal 'sudo dhclient' and you will get a network09:40
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Seveasompaul, bad idea09:41
ompaulapollo2011, providing there is a network to connect to09:41
Seveassudo ifup eth009:41
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Seveasremoving auto eth0 from the interfaces file would even be better09:41
apollo2011Seveas, ompaul: ok, can I do anything to lower the amount of times it tries to load stuff? because it takes a long time loading the modules as well, also, I would still like it to configure the Wi-Fi connection and Ctrl+C would kill both eth0 and wlan0 configuration, but I could always config it after bootup09:41
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tha_gamemasterjasoncohen, i did all that, but i was missing the backports mirror, because when i installed it, it failed the first time09:41
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yoz-rc.freendeo.ent09:42
ompaulapollo2011, as Seveas said last that is best09:42
yoz-rc.freenode.ent09:42
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tintinGoo evening09:43
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jasoncohenapollo2011, you can fix the network problem by removing auto eth0 and map eth0 from /etc/network/interfaces. then sudo apt-get install ifplugd and set it to check on eth009:43
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codecaineAnyone in here know how to use vpnc?  i set it up and its connected to pix host but i can't ping anywhere, it says "ping sendmsg: operation not permitted"???09:44
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jasoncohenapollo2011, that way the boot process won't stop if your ethernet  isn't connected but if it is ifplugd will detect it and connect09:44
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yoz_.org09:45
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hybrid_gothheh yoz_ made me think of something09:45
BelutzSeveas: do you know any good samba tutorial for newbie? :D09:45
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hybrid_gothmono should change their name to .org09:45
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apollo2011jasoncohen: that sounds like the best idea.  When it is in the base station, I would still like it to be autoconfigged, but just not when it is outside the base09:45
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hybrid_gothBelutz: the man pages is well documented09:45
puffHm, does ubuntu's default install have an mp3 player?09:46
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Belutzhybrid_goth: can mono develop windows apps?09:46
SeveasBelutz, install swat, enable it with update-inetd, enable the root account and you have a web interface :)09:46
Belutzhybrid_goth: man samba ?09:46
hybrid_gothBelutz: it is FOSS .Net09:46
hybrid_gothpuff: no09:46
The_VoxSeveas: don't be mean with Belutz09:46
hybrid_gothBelutz: YES09:46
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fpany app that uses the gtk file chooser crashes on file->open with 'gtk_file_system_path_is_local: assertion `path != NULL' anyone have any idea?09:46
puffAny recommendations for a linux mp3 player?09:46
hybrid_goth!restricted09:47
uboturestricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:47
Belutzhybrid_goth: what is FOSS?09:47
hybrid_gothpuff: i like mplayer09:47
The_VoxBelutz: go to /usr/share/doc/samba<whateverversion>/ and you should find a book about samba in there...it makes it very easy to learn samba09:47
puffAlso, any recommendations for desktop look & feel refinements that will make my coworkers drool?09:47
puff:-)09:47
ompaulBelutz, free open source softwarea09:47
hybrid_gothBelutz: free open source software09:47
The_Voxpuff: I like amarok09:47
hybrid_gothpuff: vlc seems to be common i here09:47
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puffDoes ubuntu have a nice pointy-clicky UI for apt or should I just use apt-get from a terminal?  (or does ubuntu use something else?)09:48
puffvlc is mp3 player orlook & feel?09:48
Seveaspuff, system -> administration -> synaptic09:48
Seveasand you can use apt-get and aptitude too :)09:48
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bionicanyone using gimp in here?09:49
dabaRvlc is a media playuer09:49
PC_PixelDoes Ubuntu support cups-lpr?09:49
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puff Well, i'm looking at this as an opportunity to explore new ground... one of the few times I don't have to worry about other people depending on the box.09:49
catolhhow can i remove something and not remove its dependencies? like the MesaGL library?09:49
puffmplayer, amarok, vlc, hmm.09:49
Belutzok thx :)09:49
dabaRpuff for skinning"(icons, whatever) art.gnome.org, and gnome-look.org art.gnome.org has faqs, youll need them09:49
The_Voxpuff: btw, amarok is kde-based.09:49
BelutzSeveas:  i got error when trying to install swat it says swat:  Depends: samba (=3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed09:49
apollo2011In my /etc/network/interfaces it has a list of automatically configged interfaces...one line has "map eth0".  Do I delete "eth0" or "map eth0"?09:50
ompaulbionic, ask what you need if it is too complex I found the peeps on #gimp very very helpful had to wait a few mins as they were busy09:50
catolhAnyone?09:50
dabaRcatolh: well, yo uspecify removing a package, it does not remove its dependencies, I dont think09:50
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hybrid_gothcatolh: whats up09:50
hybrid_goth?09:50
catolhdabaR, it wants to remove everything depending on that package.. :p09:50
dabaRcatolh: also, please allow for your question to at least scroll off the screen before saying anyone, or askingh again09:50
catolhsorry ..09:50
dabaRoh, like, you mean, things that depend on it....09:51
dimseveas:  I posted the output of amixer on  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:51
HappyFoolBelutz: do you have breezy repositories enabled?09:51
bionicompaul, well im editing a picture, and suddenly the layer, paths, channels, brushes window dissapeared, cant find it again, looked in view, layers etc, cant find what option to open the window again? :)09:51
dabaRwell, how would that work, if it depoends on it,, it cant work after it is removed09:51
dabaRcatolh: but, I am not the person to answer that.09:51
catolhdabaR, yeah.. like in fedora you can do "rpm -e --nodeps xorg-x11-MesaGL" to remove the MesaGL library..09:51
BelutzHappyFool: i think so... let me check09:52
dabaRcatolh: maybe man apt-get then.09:52
HappyFoolBelutz: you probably do. 3.0.10 is the hoary version, 3.0.14a the breezy version09:52
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dabaRweird that something would work if its dependencies are not installed09:52
BelutzHappyFool: no, but i was enable it09:52
hybrid_gothdabaR: that isnt wierd it is bizzar09:53
HappyFoolBelutz: i wouldn't enable breezy if i were you09:53
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HappyFoolBelutz: anyway, somehow you've ended up with breezy's samba09:53
BelutzHappyFool: so, do i have to uninstall the 3.0.14a and install the 3.0.1009:53
ompaulbionic, no idea, I used gimp maybe 6 times for any real jobs in the last couple of years :)09:53
dabaRhybrid_goth: ya, but we both together dont know enough about it....09:54
HappyFoolBelutz: i would. aptitude install samba=3.0.10-1ubuntu3 ought to do the trick09:54
BelutzHappyFool: ok :)09:54
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ismael/usr/bin/ld: no se puede encontrar -lperl?09:56
ismael/usr/bin/ld: no se puede encontrar -lperl?09:56
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Burgundaviasomone needs sudo --> http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow_viewer/0,1205,l=&s=26945&a=156757&po=1,00.asp09:58
jasoncohenwhat's the best way to resize a ext3 root partition? i tried resizing it in the live cd but it said the device was being used (swap was on the same HD). should i remove the journal, resize with resize2fs and then re-create the journal?09:58
HappyFoolismael: try maybe #ubuntu-es for spanish (espanola?) or #ubuntu-pt for portuguese; otherwise, try maybe 'sudo aptitude install libperl-dev'09:58
ankur hi, when I write the following command using visudo, I should not be able to change the root's passwd, but I can, could someone explain: user           ALL = /usr/bin/passwd [A-z] *, !/usr/bin/passwd root09:58
tha_gamemasterHappyFool, yea /usr/bin/ld can't find lperl he says09:58
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klosborneinstalled a cups printer on another machine on the LAN and the status is "Paused"09:59
resiakankur: Why would you want to do that, out of interest?09:59
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klosborneI'd like to press the start button on cups but of course I can't since you cant issue administrative commands10:00
ankurresiak, yes, you can assume that, actually I was reading a tutorial and came up with this problem10:00
klosbornehow should i attack this problem10:00
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klosbornei don't know what to enter for username and password10:01
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ompaulklosborne, does system - administration - printing not help you at all?10:01
aeolistklosborne, that's a grave situation indeed10:02
resiakankur: I don't know, I'm just wondering why you'd want to :)10:02
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ankurresiak, okay..well I was trying to make a user who could change all users' passwd except root10:02
scenaDoes Ubuntu support cups-lpr/cups-lpd?10:02
thespiritoftalis there a way to run swf files in ubuntu? with some kind of codec maybe?10:02
puffThe_Vox: amarok is kde-based, what's the default ubuntu windowmanager?10:02
tha_gamemasterthespiritoftal, flashplayer in your webbrowser10:03
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Xyc0thespiritoftal: flashplayer10:03
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fireuhhh I think I accidently deleted all my partitions10:03
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firewhat can I do to recover10:04
fireits a simple fdisk delete10:04
hybrid_gothfire: haha10:04
hybrid_gothgood luck10:04
Belutzwb tritium10:04
hybrid_gothif you actually deleted i dont think there is much you can do10:04
hybrid_gothsorry man10:04
tritiumhi Belutz10:04
resiakankur: I'm trying to figure out why.10:04
firewell I think I can guess the partition10:04
firefdisk stuff10:04
chortonCan anyone tell me how to set the xterm window to a specific height and width on open?10:05
fireits exactly the same as my install on my computer10:05
Belutz:)10:05
tha_gamemasterfire, that happend on my friends laptop last night, she somehow managage to screw up her partition table10:05
fireI think I'll just need to copy the partition table on this hd and move it on the other10:05
ankurwell, just like that...say u have a administrator looking after the passwords of all users...freeing root of all that activites10:05
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hybrid_gothfire: if you deleted it it isnt there10:05
firehybrid_goth uhhh10:06
Ja1does anybody have a clue why the command10:06
Ja1apt-get --reinstall install xkeyboard-config10:06
Ja1does not replace missing files in /etc/X11/xkb  provided by this package ?10:06
fireif I deleted, it mean it has a message that says free space here :P10:06
fireif I change the message back, it'll be fine10:06
vossihello, i am looking for a noob-guide of ubuntu, anyone knows one?10:06
hybrid_gothvossi: n00b guide?10:06
vossiyes10:06
hybrid_gothvossi: for installation? configuration?10:07
firehas anyone here used parted?10:07
Xyc0vossi: wiki.ubuntu.com10:07
Belutzhmmm how do i make the icons in desktop automatically arrange?10:07
vossiit's installed, but there are many questions..10:07
hybrid_gothvossi: you need to be more specific10:07
tha_gamemasteris there a way to get xmms to use utf-8 encodings?10:07
tritiumchorton, with the -geometry option10:07
MartenHok, what else do I need to do? I have it installed, can launch programs from shortkeys, upgraded everything I can... what else is there to do?? :)10:07
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linuksotha_gamemaster: yes remove it and install a modern mediaplayer...10:08
vossii have problems with *.mp3, with avi, currently i am trying to use winex...10:08
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Xyc0vossi: that is alot of problems at once10:08
hybrid_gothvossi10:08
hybrid_goth!restricted10:08
ubotu[restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:08
chibifsFELL ASLEEP ON MY ARRRRM10:09
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chibifs:O10:09
tha_gamemasterlinukso, not quite the answer i was looking for but thanks anyways10:09
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linuksotha_gamemaster: to be serious, no I dont think so...10:09
apollo2011is there a way in Gnome to put the system in standby or suspend to safely un-dock the laptop from a base station? Last time I tried doing it worked with the machine wide awake but then one time I corrupted the fs and had to reinstall.10:09
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tha_gamemasterlinukso, ah ok, thank you. ^_^10:09
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linuksotha_gamemaster: but maybe beep-media-player can. It uses gtk (gtk likes unicode :) ), and looks a lot like xmms (theme comp)10:09
WeirdAlHey, where's the network config?10:09
Xyc0apollo2011: did you check to see if your hardware supports standby?10:10
tha_gamemasterlinukso, i'll look around for more stuff, i just want something simpel and functional10:10
MartenHaaa, videos! What do I need to play divX? Player/codecs, and is there something similar to MediaPlayer Classic" (No, no the MS hog) for ubuntu?10:10
BelutzSeveas: how do i disable time synchronize to ntp.ubuntulinux.org at startup ?10:10
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vossiubotu thanks, as it seems there i find some answers. thx10:10
ubotuvossi: no worries10:10
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tritiumBelutz, with update-rc.d10:10
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ompaul!botsnack10:11
ubotu:)10:11
chortonThanks for the xterm assistanec.10:11
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Ja1Belutz: sudo chmod a-x /etc/init.d/ntpdate10:11
tritiumBelutz, similar to this, but ntpdate instead of gdm: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start10:11
tritium^^^ is the preferred Debian/ubuntu way10:11
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Xyc0bah ha ha ha ha10:12
apollo2011Xyc0: no...I assume being able to go into standby in Windows has nothing to do with this?  Would it be in the Log Out menu if it was supported?10:12
Belutzthx :D10:12
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IRCNetchessI'm trying to decide whether to pre-rder the "Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 Bible"  I'm new to Linux.  Will it help me with Ubuntu?10:12
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Xyc0apollo2011: If you Log Out, it should give you some options, one of those being Suspend if your hardware supports it.10:12
scenaWould you say Ubuntu has enough power to function in server roles, or is it more of a desktop linux distro10:13
ompaulIRCNetchess, to some extent yes, it is much more focused on Debian, this is not a bad thing it is just the way the book is10:13
Xyc0apollo2011: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryLaptop?highlight=%28CategoryLaptop%2910:13
fireSince GParted can be a weapon of mass destruction only root may run it. lol....10:13
apollo2011Xyc0: ok, so i guess mine doesn't support it then...10:13
Xyc0apollo2011: What kind of laptop?10:13
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Belutztritium: how do i know everything that's started at startup? in /etc/rc.d ?10:13
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ompaulscena, yes, but test before production as you would with anything else10:13
apollo2011Xyc0:  Dell Inspiron 860010:13
epIf want to make change some settings to speed up my mouse.  I should edit my XF86Config?10:13
Jeezisanyone in here that could tell me how to convert a .c file to a .so file?10:13
scenaompaul: excellent10:14
scenais anyone here familiar with the CUPS printing system?10:14
ompaul!cups10:14
ubotuNo idea, ompaul10:14
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IRCNetchessThank you IRCompaul.  I thought Ubuntu sort of was Debian.10:14
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alex91buenas tardes10:14
Mibskyhi10:15
apollo2011Xyc0:  I guess that Dell Supsend Fix article should help me...lol10:15
tritiumBelutz, /etc/rc2.d10:15
scenaI'm currently using MAndrake 10.1 for linux print servers. I'm contemplating switching them to Ubuntu10:15
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alex91estimados amigos conocen alguna distribucion linux para colegios10:15
scenathe issue I'm having is when I set a print driver to RAW mode in Mandrake, it spits out PostScript10:15
ketilknapollo2011: Have you checked out this site: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/dell.html10:15
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MibskyI cant get libdvdcss for ub 64, all the repositories I tried failed... help !10:15
ketilknThere is an Ubuntu article there10:15
Xyc0apollo2011: Read a bit more into it tho, I tried the same thing on my Dell 5150 and it cause my memory to bug out every 10 minutes10:15
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pippijnmysqladmin: connect to server at 'xinutec' failed10:15
pippijnerror: 'Lost connection to MySQL server during query'10:15
ompaulscena, I would have a good read of the wiki/forums before attempting that move there are some gotchas about cups10:15
scenawould i expect to see the same thing if i went with Ubuntu?10:15
pippijnhas anyone got an idea what that could be?10:16
Xyc0apollo2011: there is a link on that page that gives you details on your specific make of laptop10:16
Belutztritium: what's Kxx or Sxx means?10:16
scenaompaul: yeah; i think ive hit a couple lol10:16
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nightswimstart and stop scripts10:16
tritiumBelutz, yeah, start and stop10:16
apollo2011Xyc0: no actually that article is about closing the lid...that works finee on mine...but I will definitely look into those links..thx10:16
scenaompaul: so far its worked great with the exception of this RAW mode thing10:16
MibskyI cant get libdvdcss for ub 64, all the repositories I tried failed... help !10:16
thespiritoftalhi again is there a way to run swf files in ubuntu?10:16
Belutztritium: K=start S=stop ?10:16
tritiumBelutz, those in /etc/rc2.d are symlinks to the scripts in /etc/init.d10:16
CoffeeBreaksI need to install a post 2.6.10 kernel (SATA not recognized before .11, and maybe this will solve DMA issues I have on my IDE drive. 2.6.11 (from backports?) didn't boot. Any recommendation for a kernel? .12? or .13-rc3?10:16
MartenHaaa, videos! What do I need to play divX? Player/codecs, and is there something similar to MediaPlayer Classic" (No, no the MS hog) for ubuntu?10:17
Xyc0apollo2011: do you know how to work with bash commands?10:17
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scenayou could also try installing bum - boot up manager10:17
scenathat lets you manage start up stuff right from the Administration panel10:17
Xyc0apollo2011: cause I ended up editing grub/menu.lst in bash tog et my laptop back to normal10:17
tritiumBelutz, other way around.  check out the manpage for update-rc.d for good info too.10:17
Xyc0apollo2011: I just dont want to leave you hanging10:17
Belutztritium: so what's rc0.d , rc1.d until rc6.d ?10:17
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sexcopter8000mok, noob question here, when i read a man page in the terminal (eg "man foo") how can i exit that and return to the command line?10:17
kgnallyHas anyone in here successfully installed the official ATI linux drivers in Unbuntu? I seem to be having problems doing so10:17
mjrmibsky, try http://debian.video.free.fr/10:17
sexcopter8000mwithout closing and opening another terminal of course10:17
tritiumrc.0 is halt, rc1.d is single-user mode, and so on10:18
CoffeeBreaksMibsky: use the build script found in libdvdread3 doc10:18
hybrid_goth!ati10:18
ubotu[ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:18
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klosborneback again - since cups administrative menu is disabled, how to i browse for a printer?10:18
HakaslakIs this the ubuntu irc channel?10:18
Belutztritium: ic... brb, read the man page :D10:18
Xyc0!suspend10:18
ubotuI haven't a clue, Xyc010:18
tritium:)10:18
tritiumHakaslak, yep10:18
sexcopter8000manyone? i think my question is a simple one10:18
chortonDoes anyone know a command to change your resolution from a console?10:18
CoffeeBreaksMibsky:  /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh10:18
hybrid_gothkgnally: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:18
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Mibskyok10:19
tritiumchorton, did you see my last message re: xterm -geometry?10:19
hybrid_gothsexcopter8000m: q10:19
chortonYeah, I got that.10:19
chortonThat was for xterm.10:19
chortonThis is for x itself.10:19
sexcopter8000mexcellent, thanks10:19
chortonI want to change my resolution in fluxbox10:19
tritiumchorton, permanently?10:19
klosbornewhat is the correct uri to connect to a cups printer on a nother machine?10:19
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chortonTemporarily for now.10:19
WeirdAlhow do I find my current ip?10:20
chortonPermanently eventually.10:20
hybrid_gothWeirdAl: ifconfig10:20
tritiumDoes Ctrl-Alt-+/- work in fluxbox?10:20
Mibskydpkg-source: extracting libdvdcss in libdvdcss-1.2.510:20
Mibsky./install-css.sh: line 41: fakeroot: command not found10:20
Mibskyroot@Anna:/usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples #10:20
Computer__Guruwww.whatismyip.com10:20
WeirdAlaha10:20
Mibskyuh?10:20
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Mibskyfakeroot?10:20
kgnallythx people that pointed me to that... guess I was wrong AGAIN trusting ATI's install instructions (will they EVER get it right?)10:20
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Computer__GuruMibsky:  apt-get install fakeroot10:20
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WeirdAlaha10:20
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WeirdAlthanks goth10:20
WeirdAlbye :-)10:20
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hybrid_gothnp10:20
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chortonYes, that works.10:21
Computer__Gurudamn man, /dev/hda4 is starting to fill up10:21
chortonHowever, I don't like the high pitched whine the monitor makes when I drop the res once.10:21
MibskyOK thanks you10:21
chortonWHat is the permanent change?10:21
Computer__Gurui only have 11 gb free10:21
Mibskyseems like its installed10:21
ketilknchorton: Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:21
apollo2011Xyc0: Looks like to suspend, you just have to close the monitor, then you can safely undock from the base.10:22
ketilknchorton: The resolution listed first next to your color depth would be the default setting.10:22
Xyc0apollo2011: sounds good10:22
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tritiumchorton, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the resolutions you want10:23
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chortonSo whatever the first resolution listed there is what X will default to?10:23
ketilknYes10:23
Belutztritium: so i just can edit  /etc/init.d/ntpdate and put "exit 0" at the first line?10:24
chortonSo I can just switch the place of the two resolutions that I want to interchange right?10:24
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ketilknYou have to be root or use sudo to edit the file. sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:24
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tritiumBelutz, update-rc.d is the preferred method, but you can do any of those listed in the Debian Reference10:24
ketilknchorton: That would be correct. If the resolution work that is.10:24
Belutztritium: ok :)10:24
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tritiumBelutz, I won't give you a hard time if you do it another way ;)10:25
ompaulupdate-rc.d <-- is there a tool that automates that - a user tool if you will (yes I ack it needs sudo)10:25
chortonWell, lemme see if this works.10:25
Belutztritium: it's ok... i'm trying to learn here :D10:25
ketilknchorton: If X fail to   the resolution it skips to the next in line/10:25
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tritium:)10:25
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catolhis there any way to "force" a dpkg?10:26
ketilknchorton: Sorry for my keyboard issues.. :)10:26
highvoltagecatolh: dpkg --force-help10:26
Jeezisanyone in here that could tell me how to convert a .c file to a .so file?10:26
liranhey guys10:26
psychonateJeezis, compile?10:26
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HollowFrankwhats the best program to rip cd to ogg?10:27
Jeezispsychonate: yeah, my bad10:27
psychonateHollowFrank, I prefer grip.10:27
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AlexBOHello! I wanna show the last login effectuated, but i can't see the file /vat/log/wtmp. If I write "less wtmp" it says me that it's a binary file. if i write "sudo wtmp" it says me that the command is not found, as well if i wrote "sudo ./wtmp".how can i visualize it?10:27
HollowFrankcheers10:27
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the--dudI use grip as well10:27
hacked``guys, can anyone help me resolve this error: Makefile.inc:95: *** KERNELPATH must be defined. Stop.10:27
ompaulJeezis, this may help http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Program-Library-HOWTO/shared-libraries.html10:27
psychonateHollowFrank, it can encode to most anything. I used to use it for FLAC, but now mostly ogg vorbis.10:27
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Belutztritium: i got this  # update-rc.d ntpdate stop 99 1 2 3 4 5 6 .  System startup links for /etc/init.d/ntpdate already exist.10:28
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Jeezisompaul: ok, thanks10:28
tritiumHollowFrank, there are also sound-juicer (which you should have installed), and the command-line favorite abcde10:28
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patrickjello, im back and in openbox :D10:29
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hacked``guys10:29
hacked``where is the kernel source located10:29
patrickjwheres the original menu file for openbox?10:29
HollowFranktritium: i've been using sound juicer, was just wondering if theres anything better, alas my command line skill is not yet up to scratch so i'll play it safe and stick to a gui10:29
ketilknhacked: /usr/src if installed10:29
tritiumHollowFrank, okay.10:30
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epIn a quest to speed up my mouse, I added Option "Resolution" "1600" to the  xorg.conf mouse section.  Now I want to play around with xset m command but I don't want it to be permanent.  For instance if I do  xset m 3 2, will it be permanent?10:30
patrickjhacked: In gentoo I know for sure it is in /usr/src/linux10:30
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patrickjbut I do not know about in ubuntu :/10:30
psychonatepatrickj, well, /usr/src/linux would be a symlink to the kernel source10:30
patrickjbut hey guys where the original openbox menu xml file?10:30
tritiumBelutz, I don't see anything wrong with your syntax...10:30
ketilknep: It will not be permanent.10:31
Belutztritium: ic...10:31
ketilknep: Just restart X.10:31
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tritiumBelutz, and you use sudo, and all that?10:31
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Bac9does anyone here use a faxmodem?10:32
epketilkn, good, also can I check these values (accel and threshhold) to see what the are  right now?10:32
CoffeeBreaksHollowFrank: just try abcde on the command line. Open a terminal and type abcde that's all you need :)10:32
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ubuntuhi10:32
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patrickjhow can I change the width of the gnome panel to a fixed width?10:32
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AlexBOhalo?10:33
psychonateI like grip because it is highly configurable and has nice CDDB support.10:33
Comp_Lexhallo10:33
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psychonateI put in my CD, hit one button, and I get nice ogg vorbis files with nice names/directories and perfect tags :)10:33
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AlexBOComp_Lex: can anybody answer me?10:34
patrickjpsychonate: yes but it takes FOREVER10:34
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ketilknep: xset q10:34
hacked``where is the kernel source located10:34
psychonate(after the initial configuration tweaking of course)10:34
epah I see there is a default option too10:34
AlexBOComp_Lex: i think it's a easy answer10:34
hacked``guys, can anyone help me resolve this error: Makefile.inc:95: *** KERNELPATH must be defined. Stop.10:34
Amaranthhacked``: linux-source-*10:34
lirana mandrake box i have got stuck during the init process, probably because some faulty start-up scipt. i want to use ubuntu to rescue the partition...  after ubuntu loads up i can use fdisk to view the mandrake' root partition and then mount it to get access to the files, right?10:34
Comp_LexalexBO:yes, but i just came in :P10:34
hacked``amaranth, ya but where is it10:34
psychonatepatrickj, er, I don't see why it would take longer than anything else10:34
hacked``amaranth i need to set KERNELPATH in a makefile10:34
Comp_LexAlexBO: What is your problem>10:34
Amaranthhacked``: if you installed a linux-source package look in /usr/src10:34
psychonatepatrickj, it merely uses cdparanoia to get the wavs and then encodes with the encoder of your choice10:34
patrickjpsychonate: yes I know but ripping music just generally takes a bit of time10:34
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psychonateso what is your point?10:35
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psychonateHow is that an argument against grip?10:35
patrickjit isnt lol10:35
the--dudliran, should work yeah... ubuntu will prolly mount it for you as well10:35
hacked``Amaranth, thats the problem, i didnt10:35
AlexBOComp_Lex, I wanna show the last login effectuated, but i can't see the file /vat/log/wtmp. If I write "less wtmp" it says me that it's a binary file. if i write "sudo wtmp" it says me that the command is not found, as well if i wrote "sudo ./wtmp".how can i visualize it?10:35
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patrickjits an argument against ripping music :p10:35
tritiumpsychonate, because it uses cdparanoia to get exact bit-for-bit copies10:35
tritiumfaster rippers tolerate occasional errors10:35
hacked``Amaranth, whats the apt-get for the linux source10:36
psychonateeww10:36
psychonateI would rather it do that myself10:36
Amaranthhacked``: apt-cache search linux-source10:36
Ja1AlexBO: last | less10:36
psychonate(bit-for-bit)10:36
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psychonatetritium, anyway, you can those options in grip anyway10:36
psychonateAFAIK10:36
psychonatecan change*10:36
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AlexBOJa1: good! thank you!10:37
ketilknhacked``: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1010:37
psychonateIt allows you to specify all of that cdparanoia stuff.10:37
ketilknhacked``: If you use kernel 2.6.10 that is10:37
jimiykrikethi guys, i have a gig of ram, is there any way i can make a ram drive or something so ubuntu live don't run off the cd?10:37
psychonatee.g. : "Disable paranoia" "Disable extra paranoia"10:37
tritiumall I'm saying is exact copies are worth the wait10:37
hacked``amaranth, are you trying to tell me that apt-cache search only returns results relevant to my system? cause it only returned linux-source-2.6.1010:37
ketilknhacked``: or use sudo synaptic    and search for kernel10:38
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psychonatetritium, oh, I agree. I thought you were arguing against that :)10:38
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Amaranthhacked``: And?10:38
hacked``im asking if thats how it works10:38
Amaranthhacked``: No, it returns anything with linux-source in the name10:38
psychonateEither way, grip is fantastic because it so configurable IMO. You can pretty much change it to work however you wish10:38
Amaranththat is available for download10:38
tritiumpsychonate, :)10:38
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hacked``so you're telling me thats theres only 1 linux source available for download ?10:38
liranthe--dud: any specific arguments i should give ubuntu for loading my mandrake's /?10:38
Xyc0How do I look up the BusID for my vidcard?10:38
ketilknchorton: Did it work ?10:39
the--dudliran, the livecd will work without any special arguments usually10:39
psychonateXyc0, do you need it for your xorg.conf10:39
psychonate?10:39
Xyc0psychonate: rgr10:39
Xyc0psychonate: errr... roger10:39
Xyc0yes10:39
Xyc0sorry planetside lingo10:39
liranthe--dud: if you say so... i dont remember it mounting my windows partition last time (hoary 5.04)10:39
Amaranthhacked``: Appearently yes, in breezy.10:39
psychonateXyc0, use 'lspci -X'10:40
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liranthe--dud: the--dud: btw, can i mount read and write mode? to alter damaged stuff in that box?10:40
psychonatethe X is very helpful because it list the locations in the format that xorg.conf uses10:40
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hacked``well then how do i uncompress a .bz2 file10:40
hacked``shouldnt "install" do this (apt-get install)10:41
psychonateI had lots of trouble finding the busid myself before I found out about that option heh10:41
ketilknhacked``: tar xfvj filename.tar.bz210:41
Burgundaviahacked``, right click and chose extract10:41
jimiykriketanyone? can u make a ram drive thing so ubuntu live won't run of the cd?10:41
Xyc0psychonate: awsome, that helped alot10:41
uber_newbercan sum help me out please, im trying to change my screen resolution. so i got to system> preferences> and screen resolution, but it only gives me the size 640x480, which is the size its at now.10:41
Derkommissarhow can i clear the clipboard on gnome using ubuntu10:41
Xyc0Now here is a trixter, how do I find the VideoRam of my specific Vid card?10:41
Derkommissari copy and paste but nothing happes10:41
Derkommissarhappens10:42
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psychonateXyc0, np. Lspci is a pain without that option imo10:42
the--dudliran, it might be mounted read-only automatically, but you can easily allow rw mode10:42
ketilknDerkkommissar: Are you unable to paste?10:42
Xyc0psychonate: yea, i think i actualy tried it w/o, thats what pushed me here :D10:42
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uber_newbercan sum help me out please, im trying to change my screen resolution. so i got to system> preferences> and screen resolution, but it only gives me the size 640x480, which is the size its at now.10:43
uber_newbershouldt i b able to adjust it10:43
blmartin777has anybody installed engage on ubuntu?10:43
chortonYou need to reconfig X. . .10:43
psychonateXyc0, not sure about the videoram. Let me look around heh10:44
chortonI'm trying to remember the command for it.10:44
psychonateXyc0, you don't always need to specify that btw10:44
ketilknuber_newber: You probably have the wrong display driver10:44
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tritiumchorton, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"10:44
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psychonateXyc0, I know I didn't.10:44
Xyc0psychonate: I wanted to give as much info as possible, linux drivers are bad enough as it is10:44
chortonThat's the one.10:44
uber_newberketilkn: so i need to download a new diplay driver10:44
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psychonateXyc0, what card do you use? I find the nvidia drivers to be fairly good.10:45
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ketilknuber_newber: probably not. Just reconfigure X. What kind of computer have you got?10:45
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psychonatePretty much the only extra thing I had to specify with BusID because I also have an onboard card.10:45
psychonates/with/was10:45
Xyc0psychonate: nvidia10:45
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uber_newberyur gunna laugh, extremly old toshiba tecra 8000, 2 processor10:46
psychonateXyc0, are you using the official drivers?10:46
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Xyc0psychonate: the ones from the us repos10:46
psychonateDid you edit your config to use the new drivers?10:46
ketilknuber_newber: Do you know what video card you have?10:46
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uber_newberumm nope, but i think it might b neomagic, but thats a wild guess10:47
Xyc0psychonate: xorg.confg, I think ive edited it beyond recognition10:47
psychonatelol10:47
Xyc0luckly I backed it up10:47
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psychonateMy "Device" section consists only of an Identifier, a Driver, and a BusID10:47
psychonateIn my experience, that is *usually* enough10:47
Xyc0ah ha ha ha , I found out where to look up the video ram10:47
Xyc0your memory * 102410:48
ninja_indianoIm having problems instaling ubunto it frezees up ate 98% when it searches for ACPI....I have a vaio S46010:48
hacked``guys, im trying to compile something and its looking for the kernel .config file, where can i find this ?10:48
BelutzSeveas, tritium: the samba workssss hoorayyy :D10:48
tritiumGood job, Belutz :)10:48
psychonateI thought you didn't know how much ram your card had at all.10:48
hacked``amaranth, im trying to compile something and its looking for the kernel .config file, where can i find this ?10:48
Belutztritium:  :D10:49
Amaranthhacked``: you probably just want the heades10:49
Amarantherr, headers10:49
AmaranthHonestly, I've never compiled something that needed kernel headers on Ubuntu.10:49
AmaranthOr compiled my own kernel.10:49
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Belutztritium: now i can teach my lecturer how to set up samba LOL heuhue10:49
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AmaranthSo, yeah, good luck. :P10:49
hacked``amaranth, i thought you were an expert10:49
uber_newberketilkn: so what do u reccomend10:49
tritiumBelutz, nice!10:49
Amaranthhacked``: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha10:50
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tritiumhacked``, are you compiling a module with linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed?  Just grab /boot/config-$(uname -r)10:51
josea-huelvaver irc-hispanao.org10:51
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ketilknuber_newber: You should find out what card you have.10:51
fabienbonsoir10:51
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uber_newberketilkn: can u tell me how to do that10:52
fabienj'ai un petit souci avec ma resolution10:52
sexcopter8000mhi, I've just tried to put on the ati binary drivers, which didn't work, i've pasted what i think is the most relevant bit of the log file for xorg. does it reveal what might be the matter? http://pastebin.com/32280010:52
jangauber_member: its a neomagic 2.5MB VRAM10:52
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tritiumfabien, #ubuntu-fr10:53
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hacked``trittium, i just patched my wifi driver, and now i have to make && make install10:54
jangauber_member: best is to run a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver10:54
hacked``then modprobe ath_pci10:54
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QMarioHow can I fax from my desktop? Is there a faxing program for Ubuntu?10:55
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Ja1hacked``: just installing linux-headers should be enough. Grab package corresponding to you running kernel10:55
BurgundaviaQMario, gfax or efax10:56
BurgundaviaQMario, neither is very nice looking10:56
Jeeziswhere would gaims actual program files be located if i installed it via synaptic?10:56
ketilknuber_newber: There is a X11 driver called neomagic_dev. Try it out10:56
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ketilknJanga is of course right if you can handle the commandline.10:57
QMarioBurgundavia, what about mgetty?10:57
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uber_newberi think i can10:57
uber_newberi dunno ill try10:57
BurgundaviaQMario, never used it10:58
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siretarthi folks10:58
siretarthm. is evolution in hoary supposed to be able to store its calendar files on an webdav enabled apache?10:58
ketilknJeezis: try  which gaime10:58
ketilknJeezis, in a terminal10:58
tritiumsiretart, yes10:58
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djsarhi10:58
Ja1Jeezis: Install the package foo and then run a command "dpkg -L foo", it will tell you10:59
Jeezisketilkn: thanks, but i found it using dlocate10:59
ketilknI see10:59
djsar >>DO NOT USE BREEZY YET why not? is it too unstable?10:59
quietgranted.. it's not debian specific.. but if anyone likes it.. here ya go:  http://www.deviantart.com/view/21055903/10:59
siretarttritium: did you manage to do that? when I try that, evo just barks at me "unauthorized" without giving me the chance to give username/pw10:59
siretartdjsar: X is currently very broken11:00
tritiumsiretart, I actually haven't tried yet, sorrry11:00
djsarsiretart, probs with gcc i think?11:00
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siretartdjsar: rather probs with modularisation: breezy will ship xorg711:01
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djsarboah11:01
djsarsiretart, that would be nice..11:01
shosheThanks God im connected ... hello to all Ubuntians !! :)11:02
siretarthi shoshe :)11:02
Seveashello shoshe11:02
djsarhi shoshe // if u like my god join #terror11:02
Seveasit's called Ubuntuites by the way :)11:02
ompaulshoshe, welcome11:02
Seveasdjsar, don't spam in here...11:02
djsar:)11:02
shosheopps .. sorry .. first time using Ubuntu linux actually !!11:02
jasoncohenhow am i supposed to resize my root ext3 partition? it can't be resized live so i booted off the live cd and install gparted & qtparted. gparted won't resize though becuase it gives this error- "dumpe2fs: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot1 Error: Unable to open /dev/mapper/casper-cow - unrecognised disk labele2fsck -fy /dev/hda4"11:03
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QMarioHow do I make my modem work in Ubuntu?11:03
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jasoncohenand qtparted doesn't even give an option to resize11:03
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sexcopter8000mhi, I've just tried to put on the ati binary drivers, which didn't work, i've pasted what i think is the most relevant bit of the log file for xorg. does it reveal what might be the matter? http://pastebin.com/32280011:03
Seveasjasoncohen, are you *sure* /dev/hda4 is the partition you want to resize?11:03
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jasoncohenSeveas, yes11:03
ompaul ubuntusphere might be better11:03
shosheok folks ... gota little problem here ... i need to install my NVidia Driver and it says shutdown the X Server first .. how do i do that ?11:03
djsarsiretart, where can i see free jobs to be done? (testing, artwork or python-codin?)11:04
Seveasjasoncohen, isn't it an extenden partition with logical partitions inside it?11:04
jasoncohenSeve11:04
linuksoHi! Why do I often experience that files that I can play with mplayer, cant be played with totem, even though ffmpeg is installed? (totem-gstreamer and gstreamer-ffmpeg is installed...)11:04
jasoncohenSeveas, /dev/hda4            2172        3630    11719417+  83  Linux11:04
Seveaslinukso, are these wmv files perhaps?11:04
Ja1shoshe: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop11:04
QMarioLinukso, try installing totem-xine?11:04
linuksoSeveas: nope, mpeg411:04
siretartdjsar: oh, there is in fact a lot work left to do11:04
jasoncohenlinukso, do you have w32codecs installed?11:04
Seveasoooh, mpeg4...11:05
shoshe<Jal> ok folks ... gota little problem here ... i need to install my NVidia Driver and it says shutdown the X Server first .. how do i do that ?11:05
linuksojasoncohen: why would that help? gstreamer isnt using w32codecs, is it?11:05
siretartdjsar: just hang around in appropriate mailinglist and irc channels you are interested in helping out, and do stuff. It will be appreciated!11:05
djsarsiretart, thats why i ask, im usin fedora 4 and its broken like hell..11:05
jasoncohenSeveas, what should i do and why does the live cd partition have anything to do with an unmounted ext3 partition11:05
shoshe<Jal> so that should be dont on the terminal after logging off from Gnome ?11:05
Seveaslinukso, totem-xine can use it11:05
jasoncohenlinukso, you should use w32codecs + totem-xine11:05
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jasoncohenbetter codec support11:05
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Seveasjasoncohen, no idea really, looking over it again11:06
djsarsiretart, so where can i see those hanging jobs?11:06
Ja1shoshe: it will terminate gnome itself11:06
QMarioHow do I make my modem work in Ubuntu? It always says that it can't detect a modem even when it is plugged in. How come Windows can detect the modem, but Linux can't?11:06
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jasoncohenSeveas, nothing on /dev/hda is mounted including swap11:06
shoshe<Jal> oo lala .. lemme try that then ma mann ..11:06
siretartdjsar: we don't have time to write them out ;) - in what area would you like to help out?11:06
Belutztritium: what should i learn now?11:06
linuksoQMario: allready got mplayer, so I can play the files, just wondered why gstreamer doesn't work.11:06
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Seveasjasoncohen, the live cd automounts swap, have you checked that?11:06
jasoncohenSeveas, i did swapoff -a11:07
tritiumBelutz, what are your interests?11:07
QMarioOh, okay.11:07
djsarsiretart, i could do testing, artwork and some coding in python11:07
Seveaslinukso, gstreamer cannot handle mpeg4 I guess11:07
djsarsiretart, my C or C++ is too bad to be usefull11:07
tritiumBelutz, don't ask me, I'll give you a bunch of EE stuff to read ;)11:07
equexthis might be a newbish question, but why is linux appearing to use ALL the ram, all the time ? does it just work like that ? Ksyslog reports that all the physical memory (768mb) is used and that it is using about 3K of swap space...11:07
jimiykriketanyone? can u make a ram drive thing so ubuntu live won't run of the cd?11:07
SeveasQMario, maybe it's a winmodem11:07
Belutztritium: hahahaha11:07
jasoncohenactually i think i did swapoff /dev/hda2 - either way, it's not shown as mounted11:07
gigaclonwinmodem = lose11:08
gigaclon:)11:08
Seveasjasoncohen, sorry, I have to give up on that, I have no real experience with *parted11:08
linuksoSeveas: but the gstreamer-ffmpeg package claims that it does :)... But, no need to bother you anymore, I11:08
Belutztritium: what email client do u use? thunderbird or evolution?11:08
linuksoSeveas: thanks11:08
Seveaspackages claim a lot ;)11:08
tritiumBelutz, I use evolution.11:08
sexcopter8000merm, this may sound dumb, but if i'm using a pentium4, should uname -r yield 2.6.10-5-386?11:09
Seveasand mpeg4 has different incarnations iirc11:09
QMarioSeveas, what is a winmodem?11:09
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Seveassexcopter8000m, if you did not install linux-686: yes11:09
Belutztritium: can i share the mbox between thunderbird and evolution?11:09
tritiumhoping that one day it'll work properly with our exchange/OWA server11:09
siretartdjsar: for artwork have a look at http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art11:09
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ompaulSeveas, the non standard standard a quick way to die11:09
linuksoThe world of video codecs is full of evilness... :)11:09
SeveasQMario, a modem specifically designed to use the CPU and drivers for most of the work, usually only works under windows11:09
hybrid_gothQMario: software modem11:09
ketilknequex: Linux use ram to cache the contents of your harddisk.11:09
sexcopter8000mwhat is the 686 for then?11:09
trooperdbhow can i change the order a kernel module is loaded?11:10
sexcopter8000mis that 64-bit?11:10
Seveassexcopter8000m, that installs a pentium-specific kernel11:10
siretartdjsar: for helping out in universe, perhaps in giving love to python packages in universe, join us in #ubuntu-motu and see, if packaging would be a job for you11:10
Seveasno, not 64 bit11:10
sexcopter8000mok11:10
wimshow do i search  for a string in the all the files i got in a directory at once?11:10
tritiumBelutz, local mbox?  Not sure, but you can set them up both to use the same IMAP or POP server11:10
ketilknequex: That chache is freed up for processes as needed.11:10
siretartdjsar: for testing: sure, as soon as xorg is functional again, upgrade to breezy and commit bugs to bugzilla and/or malone :)11:10
ketilkncache11:10
jimiykriketanyone? can u make a ram drive thing so ubuntu live won't run of the cd?11:10
Seveastrooperdb, you can add something you specifically want first to /etc/modules11:10
puffin gnome, is there an equivalent to the windows "hide all windows and show me the desktop" shortcut?11:10
jimiykriketpleaaaaaaaase?11:10
ben_60657n00b needs to know what packages to apt in order to play .avi .mpg .wmv .mov divx xvid, etc.11:10
Seveaspuff, you can create one11:10
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brodothere is one by default11:11
QMarioWhat type of modems work with Ubuntu? Is there a way to send a fax over an Ethernet connection?11:11
Seveaswith system ->preferences -> keyboard shortcuts11:11
tritiumpuff, it should be in the lower left corner11:11
Seveasbrodo, ah ok, which one? (I set it to flag+d :))11:11
equexketilkn: ok. :)11:11
linuksopuff: stock gnome layout got that in lower left corner11:11
trooperdbSeveas: and if i wanted to remove a module? specifically i'm loading ppa for my zip100 drive.. it needs to be loaded before lp, which loads first.11:11
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Belutztritium: actually i just pop email only from gmail... and i already share the local mbox between thunderbird in ubuntu and thunderbird in winxp, but i really like the evolution address book :D11:11
Seveasben_60657: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support11:11
ben_60657thx11:11
tritiumBelutz, if you find out, let me know ;)11:11
djsarsiretart, but in this state xorg would not start? am i right?11:11
brodoSeveas, in the lower left corner, like linukso sad11:11
pufflinukso: Ah, gotcher, thanks.11:12
Seveastrooperdb, lp is in that file, reorder that file and you're set :)11:12
Belutztritium: i will :D11:12
redtechwhats popular for music mixing, mastering... ?11:12
trooperdbSeveas: doesn't sound hard. thanks :)11:12
Seveasbrodo, i meant *keyboard* shortcut11:12
sexcopter8000mi can't see 686 anywhere in the iso page (http://ubuntu.hands.com/releases/hoary/). would it make sense to start anew with ubuntu, this time getting the 686 version?11:12
Seveasnot mouseclick shortcut :)11:12
brodoSeveas, oh...11:12
Seveassexcopter8000m, no11:12
Seveasthere are no 686 cds11:12
siretartdjsar: well, without X, you would be restricted to console only apps ;)11:12
Seveassexcopter8000m, you just need to install the linux-686 package to get a pentium-optimized kernel11:13
hybrid_gothsiretart: not that its a bad thing11:13
siretartdjsar: well in fact, you could install breezy in a chroot, and start/test application from there11:13
sexcopter8000mand would you recommend that?11:13
Seveassexcopter8000m, yes11:13
ketilknSeveas:  system ->preferences -> keyboard shortcuts11:13
siretarthybrid_goth: no, not at all, but I'm not sure everyone could live without ;)11:13
sexcopter8000mcool, thanks11:13
djsarsiretart, thx i read in those lists..11:14
Seveasketilkn, no need to tell me that :)11:14
sexcopter8000mjust before i do this, since it sounds quite major, is it any more complicated that just installing that package in synaptic?11:14
Seveassexcopter8000m, a bit11:14
Seveasyou will need to reboot afterwards to use the 686 kernel :)11:14
MartenHIs there an FTP client in ubuntu?11:14
hacked``guys, i just got the kernel sources, how do i compile them ?11:14
sexcopter8000mlol11:14
ketilknSeveas, I dont even know why I did.11:14
SeveasMartenH, places -> connect to server11:14
ketilknhehe11:14
dinMartenH, gftp11:14
SeveasMartenH, how's the WPA going?11:15
sexcopter8000mremind me, is smp for systems with more than one processor?11:15
Seveashacked``, why would you want to do that?11:15
linuksohmmm, gnome keyboard shortcuts confuses me: <Ctrl><Alt><f> works for web browser, but not <Mod4><f>, even though <Mod4><f> works for other things...11:15
Seveassexcopter8000m, correct11:15
sexcopter8000mok11:15
MartenHSeveas: Is there anything more "useful" I could get instead to do FTP? .. and the WPA is not comming at all *sigh*11:15
brodoredtech, rosegarden is a popular midi-sequenzer, ardour a hdd recorder11:15
sexcopter8000mdownloading now :)11:16
SeveasMartenH, I just heard from someone that orinoco cards may be supported by the atheros madwifi driver, maybe you can try that11:16
MartenHSeveas: there are some few loose ends, but most include building my own modules and that is a bit above my head11:16
redtechbrodo: you familiar with it at all?11:16
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dinoronico cards have theirs own linux module11:16
dinorinico_cs11:16
brodoredtech, no i use win for my music stuff11:16
MartenHSeveas: ok, how can I change which driver is used? (it's not an orinoco card though, just uses that drivr, it's a linksys card)11:16
dintheir*11:16
SeveasMartenH, gftp is quite nice11:17
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Seveasyou can use that for ftp11:17
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SeveasMartenH, what was your card type again?11:17
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MartenHSeveas: ok, I'll get that package then :)11:17
redtechbrodo: thanks. Ill check it out.11:17
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brodoredtech,  i just found "wirded"  http://bloodshed.net/wired/... looks interesting11:17
MartenHSeveas: Linksys WPC 11 ver.3 (Chipset most likely Prism 2 or 3)11:17
Seveastoo bad :(11:17
Seveasworthless idea then11:18
jangais there a way to play musepack files in rhythmbox?11:18
redtechbrodo: there we go11:18
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MartenHg'night11:18
thespiritoftalI have uninstalled firestarter but everytime I open ubuntu it tells me to give the root password to open firestarter... how can i fix it?11:18
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linuksothespiritoftal: find firestarter in synaptic and mark it for complete removal11:19
xliuwhich gui do u use, gnome or kde or else?11:19
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ompaulxliu, in ubuntu gnome in kubuntu kde or something else if you so choose, gnome does great11:20
ompauls/does/is11:20
VeonDoes anyone out there feel like helping a me (who is new to Linux) with how to install Java Plug-in for Firefox?11:20
Comp_Lexsure11:20
xliuVeon, you can read Ubuntu unoffcial doc11:20
tritium!java11:20
ubotuI guess java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.11:20
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VeonI did! but it didn't work11:21
Comp_Lex:S11:21
tritiumVeon, did you use java-package?11:21
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Xyc0I am still geting this from glxgears: 16440 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3288.000 FPS11:21
Belutztritium: if i want to use evolution for let say my campus, so we can share calendar, we have to set up the server right? is it the exchange server?11:21
tritiumdid you download Sun's .bin, and use fakeroot & make-jpkg to build a .deb?11:21
hacked``guys11:21
Comp_Lexi downloaded it straight from Sun and it works for me. :)11:21
xliuhow do u feel xfce?11:21
Xyc0is 3288 fps a good thing?11:21
hacked``where is the kernel .config file located?11:21
tritiumhacked``, /boot/config-$(uname -r)11:22
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Xyc0psychonate: I am still getting 16440 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3288.000 FPS in glxgears, is that how it should be?11:22
gooktimeAnyone have any idea if it'd be possible to remap the F13 key on an apple pro keyboard to printscrn or something in linux?11:22
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tritiumBelutz, actually, you can try a WebDAV enabled webserver if that's all you want to do11:23
VeonI've tried writing  "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5" into the terminal. but it sayd that it can't find the packagde or something.11:23
ompaulVeon, did you add something like -->deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java <--- to your /etc/apt/sources and then do apt-get update, and then try to install java?11:23
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linuksoXyc0: I'm getting 639 from my old geforce2go11:23
Belutztritium: ok :)11:23
tritiumVeon, after you build the .deb with make-jpkg, you need to install it with dpkg -i <filename.deb>11:23
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VeonNo I didn't try that, ompaul.11:23
Xyc0this is a GoForce 520011:23
tritiumyou can't use apt-get since it's not in the repos11:23
Belutzhow do you check the fps ??11:23
djsargn811:23
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tritiumIt's on your filesystem, Veon11:23
Xyc0linukso: Is that accurate tho, i thought FPS should be around 30011:23
ompaulVeon, well if you do and then you launch syanaptic you may be surprised11:23
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Xyc0Belutz: glxgears11:24
linuksoXyc0: the more the better, isn't it?11:24
VeonI'll give it a try11:24
Xyc0linukso: not when youa re trying to configure the driver correctly11:24
basti!webmin11:24
ubotuTo use webmin with ubuntu you have to add a webmin-root account with : /usr/share/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root "password", or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount11:24
tritiumVeon, did you see anything I sent you?11:24
Xyc0linukso: too high and something is wrong11:24
gooktimescratch that, i figured it out :D11:25
linuksoXyc0: ah, ok.11:25
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VeonYeah. I did.11:25
Belutzi only got 259 fps???11:25
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tritiumVeon, you never replied.  Did you use make-jpkg?11:25
Xyc0Jesus, 9129 fps11:25
VeonI have no idea what that is11:26
tritiumdid you follow the wiki page?11:26
linuksotritium: any reason why he shouldn't just add a java rep to sources.list?11:26
Veonwiki page?11:26
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ompaulSomeone was asking about 'chkcfg' there aint but you can use something like rcconf for removing services at boot time11:26
Belutzso ati really s*cks in linux?11:26
tritiumlinukso, is this repo distributing legal packages?  Sun's licensing is rather strict.  Which repo are you referring to?11:27
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Slipaway172Belutz, no11:27
ompaulpropritory hardware is not open11:27
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BelutzSlipaway172: i use ati mobility 960011:27
linuksothe one refered to in the wiki.... hmm, didn't think about licensing. Should have thought about that.11:27
tritiumVeon, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java <--This is the preferred way11:28
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VeonI'll take a look :)11:28
bastiis there any gui ftpserver for ubuntu?11:28
hybrid_gothgftp11:28
bastiserver!11:29
tritiumgui server?11:29
bastiyes11:29
MeLLoN`glftpd11:29
bastik gonna try it thx :)11:29
sexcopter8000mwell, i have the 686 kernel now. do you think there'll be any milage in trying the fglrx drivers again? or will that not change owt?11:29
hacked``guys, i downloaded the linux kernel sources, but i dont have a .config file which i need to compile my wifi driver11:30
hacked``where can i find it11:30
groverit's in /boot I think11:30
tritiumhacked``, I told you, in /boot11:31
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tritiumhacked``, and all you need is linux-headers-$(uname -r) and /boot/config-$(uname -r)11:31
linuksohacked``: think you just need the linux headers11:31
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brodooh, mounting a hdd to my home dir seems to be a bad idea....11:31
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brodognome crashed11:32
hacked``guys all i know is that when i do make, it says that it cant find .config in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.1011:32
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tritiumhacked``, again, you don't need to download the source11:32
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tritiumall you need is the headers package11:32
groveris there a wiki entry on this? I tried using linux-headers to compile acerhk driver, ran into issues, used whole source and it worked11:32
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karljpany suggestions for the fastest image viewer?  faster than gqview? (just for viewing, it doesn't need to do _anything_ else)  I want to flick through 1-2meg jpegs11:32
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hacked``tritium, what are you talking about, i just patched my driver, and now i need to make it11:33
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hacked``can i just msg you for 1 minute11:33
hacked``i've been trying to resolve this for 3 hours11:34
tritiumI think you've ignored my advice, so what do you intend to discuss?11:34
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hacked``i dont understand your advice11:34
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tritiumokay, go ahead and query me11:35
bastihow come that after I stop the ftpdaemon I get LESS ram free?! o_O11:35
uber_newbercan sum1 help me adjust my screen resolution, it wont let me change it from the size 640x480, it doesnt give and option of anyother size than that.  shouldt i b able to adjust it sumhow11:36
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bastiuber_newber, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FixVideoResolutionHowto11:36
bastireah that11:36
bastiread11:36
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bastithat helped me :)11:36
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groverwiki knows all11:36
jasoncohenwhen i try to resize my root fs (ext3) in the hoary live cd i get this error - "dumpe2fs: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot1 Error: Unable to open /dev/mapper/casper-cow - unrecognised disk label."11:37
jasoncohenwhat should i do to resolve it? no partitions are mounted on /dev/hda. i'm attempting to resize /dev/hda411:37
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puffInteresting... I don't recall, at any point during the install, being asked to enter a root password.  It asked me to set up a username and password, which work fine, but what's root?11:39
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mitsuhikoany kde user here?11:39
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jasoncohenpuff, there is no root password in ubuntu. you use your user password with sudo when you need administrative privileges11:39
puffah-hah.11:39
jasoncohenroot is the administrative user in most other linux distributions11:39
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ompaulpuff, check out the sudo info11:39
ompaul!sudo11:39
uboturumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo11:39
puffYeah, I'm new at ubuntu, not new at unix.11:39
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cato_!dma11:40
Bac9anyone configured hylafax to recieve faxes and can help me set it up?11:40
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karljpand the answer seems to be qiv, thanks everyone ;)11:41
tritiumpuff, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo11:42
ompaulcheers too late for me11:42
Belutztritium: i'm going to sleep now... it's almost 5 am in here hehehe11:42
tritiumBelutz, good night :)11:42
mpmclol11:43
Belutz:)11:43
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Grouthey, anyone know of a good dock for ubuntu?11:44
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uber_newberbasti: is video resolution and screen resolution the same thing?11:46
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Groutyes11:47
QMarioThank you everyone. Bye! Click on this link first:How do I make my modem work in Ubuntu?11:47
QMario Thank you everyone. Bye! Click on this link first: http://wayofthemaster.com/wotm_flash.html11:47
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Groutanyone know anything about a dock/11:48
Grout?11:48
tritiumQMario, please don't advertise like that in here11:48
jimiykriketcan anyone tell me me how to set up apache to run CGI programes11:48
jimiykriket?11:48
jimiykriketapt?11:49
benplautGrout: like... a laptop dock?11:49
benplautohhh11:49
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benplauta Mac OS/X dock11:49
flodinecan some tell me if they can get this skin to work?11:49
Groutyea11:49
flodinehttp://www.koregraphik.com/portfolio/skins/valkyrie/comments/11:50
Groutno an osx type dock11:50
brosio is better xfs or ext3 ?11:50
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flodineanyone11:50
LED_scorchedis there a quick way to give my self root access with out using "sudo"?11:50
groversudo su - takes too long? make it an alias perhaps11:51
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LED_scorchedwell.. i got a shit load of stuff to move11:51
LED_scorchedand i was awanted to know if i could just do it as root throught the gui instead11:51
LED_scorched*wanting11:52
cato_Has anyone here actually managed to get 3d acceleration and direct rendering with the "new" Ati driver installer? (I want to install these drivers, and not the BinaryDriverHowto fglrx.. Cedega seems to dislike these for me..)11:52
benplautdisconnect your internet, if you do11:52
jimiykriketcan anyone tell me me how to set up apache to run CGI programes11:52
tritiumsudo -i11:52
jimiykriketis libapache2-mod-scgi a comon way to go?11:52
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benplautyou can of course just do "gksudo nautilus", and do it through that11:52
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sJaMhi11:53
benplauthi11:53
flodinecan someone tell me if the tried the link to xmms skins11:53
sJaMI installed the bmp musepack from the musepack site11:53
sJaM(plugin)11:53
Groutanyone know of a dock?11:53
sJaMand after the configure make and make install11:53
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sJaMit is in /usr/lib/bmp/Input11:53
bluefoxicy. . .11:53
sJaMbut it doesn't show up in the input plugins in bmp11:53
sJaManyone knows a step I missed ?11:54
benplautGrout: do you mean like a Mac OS/X style dock?11:54
bluefoxicyHas anyone noticed that the pie chart in both the OpenOffice.org Calc and Gnumeric icons is the exact same damn one?11:54
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bluefoxicyBut the sheet behind it is different?11:54
crimsunyou ask as if it were a bad thing11:54
bluefoxicyit's odd11:55
Burgundaviaprobably from the same stock icons11:55
jimiykriketjust out of interest can anyone here me?11:55
othernoobno, nobody can here you11:55
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jimiykriketor does freenode want me to regester11:55
crimsunjimiykriket: we read you11:55
jimiykriketothernoob: thank you  honerabale othernoob :)11:56
holycowi'm trying to hear you ....11:56
jimiykriketcrimsun, :)11:56
othernoobalways ;)11:56
holycow... but i think that it's not working right11:56
flogistonDoes someone know how to make gnome menus transparent?11:56
bluefoxicyjimiykriket:  We want you to register.  All of us responding are freenode staff.  We need your bank account number, PIN, two major credit cards, and your social.11:56
jimiykriketu guys know what libapache2-mod-scgi is for?11:56
jimiykriketbluefoxicy, haha11:57
holycowbluefoxicy, don't forget the dna sample11:57
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Burgundaviajimiykriket, the registering is so that nobody else uses your nick11:57
bluefoxicyholycow:  You can go get that if you want.  *hands a tube of liquid platinum*11:57
SubliminalSeveas: are you around? wondering if you'd had a chance to look at that make-jpkg config file11:57
jimiykriketbluefoxicy, I know you'll only acept credit card don't kid me11:57
jimiykriket:P11:57
jimiykriketu guys know what libapache2-mod-scgi is for?11:58
sorush20guys how do I format a DVD that I could use as a drag and drop DVD11:58
jimiykriketi think i'll just go install it11:58
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sorush20guys do you know of a backup program that can write to DVD-RW11:58
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othernoobsorush20: k3b ?11:58
mpmc!info libapache2-mod-scgi11:58
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ubotulibapache2-mod-scgi: (Apache module implementing the SCGI protocol.), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.2-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 84 kB11:58
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