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ddaaIs there some documentation explaining what are the benefits or being the owner of a launchpad product?12:15
ddaajblack: that would be something useful when talking to community folks about taking ownership of products in launchpad.12:15
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jblackNot that I'm aware of, no12:37
jblackPresumably the two benefits would be karma, control or both. 12:38
jblackI don't think karma is in yet. Control is a more interesting question, but it might not hurt until there's a little more implemented. That doesn't mean we can't make a nice document and have it ready 12:38
ddaaI do not feel that karma bling is really a good selling point for pragmatic maintainers, for I would not care the least. It's more the specifics of the "control" that I'm asking about. I posted to the mailing list.12:44
jblackCertainly, there's going to be a point when there's enough value in launchpad that a creator of a product will want to be the launchpad owner as well.01:00
jblackThey'll want to take personal responsibility for that content. 01:00
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jblackdaf and rosetta as well.01:01
jblackI have no doubt that if not today, then soon the product owner gets to decide who has awesome powers when it comes to bugs for a product.01:02
jblackrosetta probably has a copule weak relationships. 01:03
jblackThe product series management will be very, very important too, once there's enough percieved value there.01:03
ddaabut it's not clear how useful such "awesome powers" are for a product that already has its own bug tracker.01:04
jblackIt will be once malone is so good, that anybody that uses anything else will be a dope. =D01:04
ddaaI'm not being negative, just trying to keep focus on "now and here".01:04
ddaaSince I'm sure there's more to Launchpad that I'm aware of.01:05
jblack"What do I miss if you delay taking ownership until next week, if I'm not using malone anyways?" 01:05
jblack"What do I miss if I delay taking ownership of a product until next week, if I'm not using malone anyways?" 01:06
jblackIs that the question? 01:06
ddaaThe question from the scribus guy was more like "why should I care about launchpad"01:48
ddaawhich was a genuine question01:48
ddaanot "why should I care this week and not next week", but "why should I care today".01:49
ddaabut maybe that's just my own perspective01:50
ddaalike some guy pointed out, I believe in working code, not in shiny ideas.01:50
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jblackWhat I'm trying to get out of this is whether he's asking why he should care today, or why he should care at all02:27
ddaadoes that make any practical difference?02:31
jblackI think so.02:37
jblackIf he doesn't care today, then he has a understanding of the possible value, but doesn't recognize current value. 02:39
jblackIf he doesn't care at all, then he doesn't recognize possible value as well. 02:39
ddaaWell, they were quite friendly, I guess he was asking about today. "You can assign it to me once my account registration goes through, that's fine. What can we do with it is the question?"02:39
ddaaI just understand that as a "that's cool, but what is it useful for?"02:39
jblackHeh. I wonder what my life would be like if I had registered certain domain names back in the mid 90's.02:40
ddaaThat's a different thing. We'll arbitrate disputes sensibly, and anyway the owner is a core developper.02:41
ddaaClearly, if it were not possible to speculate on domain names, websquatting would be pointless.02:41
jblackI'm not suggesting that he squat. :) 02:42
ddaaThat was a "okay, the product is in good hand, and you can assign it to me if you want, but then what?"02:42
jblackI'm suggesting that he can avoid the inconvience of contacting a human if somebody else squats on his property.02:42
jblackbut then what? Then we'll get ahold of him when we've got somethign ready that we think he needs. 02:43
jblackToday, we've got the resources to hunt down owners for many of the owners of ~1k products. We likely won't have those resources when we've got 50 times that. 02:44
ddaaHa, that's a interesting answer "we're working hard to make launchpad something you will want to use, the product owner is the person we will spam when we think it's ready"02:44
jblackNah. Thats not spam. 02:44
jblackspam is centered around money. This isn't. 02:45
ddaaMaybe "launchpad is something you will want to use as a packager when it's ready. It's not ready just yet, but if you are the project owner we will contact you with interesting news and events"02:46
ddaaduh...02:46
jblackYou've got a point (a good one too, a lot of people could think that way). 02:47
jblackSo we do a standard do-not-contact checkbox.02:47
ddaathen, back to the original question02:47
ddaawhy, as a project maintainer or core developer, should someone care today about it?02:48
jblackDavid, if he's not interested right now, then that's ok. He'll come along on his own some day. 02:48
ddaa(except for the import, since it that case it was already done)02:48
ddaajblack: you're missing my point, the guy was not "not interested". Actually, you could read it as he was asking us what interesting stuff we had for him.02:49
jblackDid you consider the "we did this import info in the hope it would be useful to you. Now that the work has been done, would you mind registering as the proper owner of the product, so that the product is owned by the right person rather than a canonical developer?"02:49
ddaaLet's play a game. I'll play the maintainer.02:50
ddaaTo what you just said, I reply:02:50
ddaa"You can assign it to me once my account registration goes through, that's fine. What can we do with it is the question?"02:51
jblackOne of the things that you can do right now is that you can assign extra product series to your import. That way a program named dyson can be used by the distributors to track patches for your software. That way, end users can compare whats been fixed where. 02:52
ddaaIOW, "no problem, I'm creating my account so you can assign the product to me. Thanks for the import, that's going to be useful. Now that the import is running automatically, what else can I do with that product?"02:52
jblackAre we role playing, or debugging? :) 02:52
ddaa"How do I use Dyson"?02:52
ddaaRoleplaying to debug the argumentation :)02:53
jblackDyson isn't the thing that's actually used. The actual interface is going to be through the bug tracker, malone. Don't worry, you don't have to use malone if you don't want (in fact, if you're using bugzilla, malone tracks things for you) 02:53
jblackThe important part is that the people that are packing your software for you and giving it to the community for you are going to be able to track patches for your software much more efficiently. 02:54
jblackThere's other things as well, if you're interested. ;) 02:54
jblackWe have plans in the near future of implementing something at the supermirror called "starring".02:55
ddaa"Actually, I'm the packager. The baz import will allow me to package using tla-buildpackage. But the import is already running."02:56
jblackAs the maintainer of a product, you can note for end users which third party branches for your product are important. Its a way for you to help developers of your software to know which branches you're interested in.02:56
jblackOh, which distro do you package for? 02:56
ddaa"I'm packaging for ubuntu"02:56
jblackOh. In that case, you're gonna do it because if you don't, Mark will shove his size-X boot up your ass. ;) 02:57
ddaa(taking user hat off) the thing you say about third party branches is not true, yet02:57
jblackI didn't say its true now. I said it's going to be true. :) 02:57
jblackbtw, I wouldn't make the boot comment, at least not in those terms. 02:57
jblackId actually say something more along the lines of "If you're already in ubuntu, then you probably have a good idea of where we're going, and why we're trying to get the dataset as accurate as possible" 02:58
ddaaThe guy appeared to be quite reasonable, not hostile, but not a fanboy either.02:58
jblackHe's a ubuntu developer? 02:58
ddaanope, it's just the upstream02:59
jblackOk. So he's not the packager, correct? 02:59
ddaathe -ubuntu packages versions are done by doko, jriddell and so on. He is signing the changelog entries for version that are not specific to ubuntu. He is the upstream packager.03:00
jblackOk. sync.03:00
ddaahttp://packages.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/s/scribus/scribus_1.2.2.1-1ubuntu1/changelog03:00
jblackIn that case, I'd mention the plans for malone doing multi-distro tracking and ubuntu-upstream tracking.03:00
jblackWe also are in strong need for projects that are willing to be test subjects for us. 03:01
ddaamh... I sort of see the point, but that starts to be a bit complicated for me...03:02
jblackIf he helps us by letting us use him as a test case, then the process is going to be salted with his input, and give him tools that are closer to his needs.03:02
ddaaI guess that the guy might be receptive to that.03:02
jblackMost developers are. :)03:02
jblackAnother approach I'd consider (I'd have to know him reasonably well first) is the old changing-the-world argument.03:03
ddaaBut I do not really feel up to the task of convincing him. "We are going to track your bugtracker in malone, and other distro bucktrackers as well. Okay, it's not really working yet and it sucks as a bug tracker, but if you would beta-test the stuff for us we would do our best to make Malone something you'd use every day"03:04
jblack(Nobody likes to think that they're getting in the way of an einstein)03:04
jblackddaa: That's ok. Its my job to do that. :) 03:04
jblackThe very, Very useful thing you could do to help getting this done is to give him a favorable introduction of me. 03:05
jblackThat should be easy. I'm a nice, patient guy and I rarely bite. 03:05
ddaawell, I'm certainly ending up doing a fair bit of it myself, as I'm going to interact with community guys as part as the import sheperding etc.03:06
jblackHur? I thought I was sheparding imports? 03:06
ddaaha?03:06
ddaaWell, that's fine.03:06
ddaaAll this stuff just came from a reply I made for a bug.03:07
jblackI could be desynced here (that happens to me) 03:07
ddaa"cannot create project scribus"03:07
jblackBut my impression from the self appointed one was that I'd be the human interface to imports and keeping an eye on it. 03:07
ddaathat naturally led me to assign the guy as the owner of the product (i.e. not the packager), and going to #scribus to make publicity and ask if the guy was known and trustworthy.03:07
jblackPresumably, if there was a problem with the back-end, I'd dump it into some queue somewhere for attention by the guys that have worked ont he code for a yaer. 03:07
ddaaYeah, it completely makes sense. But then there's not point in setting to strong a separation.03:08
jblackYeah. I wasn't planning on that. 03:08
jblackBasically, continuing the old process. Keeping a list of various failures. As time permits, you or lifeless hit the failures.03:09
ddaaAs we get better at diagnosing common failures it would make sense for you to work on the diagnosing as well, as that would enable you to do on-the-spot support.03:10
jblackIf something particularly juicy comes up, I might ping you for a canfix/cantfix 03:10
ddaaWhatever, no point is arguing semantics.03:10
ddaaLet's just get the work done :)03:10
jblackAnd yes, I'm open to that. 03:11
jblack("Let's get..." and "make sense for you..." 03:11
jblackI'd probably avoid the complicated ones though, as I have the impression from mark that I should be more concerned about hitting the pavement, so to speak.03:12
ddaaThat's my understanding, though second hand, too.03:12
ddaaThat malex guy seems to be away ATM. I'll ping you to to arrange a fortuitous encounter when he seems back :)03:13
jblackOk.03:13
ddaado you think I should do that in private or public?03:13
jblackIs he an independant sort, or a community sort? 03:14
jblackIf we're dealing with a Lord, then private. If we're dealing with a Raadt, then community. 03:14
jblackPrivate is generally slightly better, because its better to already ahve a convert amongst the group, so that he does most of the selling.03:15
ddaaDunno Raadt, but he seems rather oriented towards his own community.03:15
ddaaOkay.03:15
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dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.5: new build (patch-58)08:22
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar--devo--1.5: Added a -m, --modified option to baz commands displaying revision lists (patch-44: Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr)08:25
sivangddaa, jblack : can anyone at that stage contribute patches to bazaar ? 10:08
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nakeeeall the translation I upload rosetta get to the original projects?10:11
sivangnakeee: there's a mechanism to push them back to the upstream project, IIRC so yes10:19
nakeeesivang: hwo many translators are using it in hebrew?10:21
sivangnakeee: you can check through rosetta, let me see10:23
sivangnakeee: we don't have a registered translators group, guess we'll have to make one10:26
sivangnakeee: done with tests? :)10:26
nakeeesivang: hopefully I have a bit free time now:) can I have the permission to add translators?10:29
sivangnakeee: let's see10:30
sivangAnyone here can help us set up a hebrew translation group?10:30
sivangjordi: ping , howya doing? 10:30
jordihi!10:31
jordiright now I'm berserking10:31
sivangjordi: you're waht?10:31
sivang:)10:31
jordiraging10:32
jordiI'm veeery annoyed today.10:32
sivangjordi: oh, I'm sorry to hear that.10:32
sivangjordi: do you know who approves new language translation groups?10:35
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jordihmm, probably carlos right now.10:35
jordiaha!10:35
carlos_hi10:36
sivangcarlos: hey carlos10:37
sivangcarlos: What do I need to do to start a hebrew translation team in rosetta ?10:37
carlossivang, send an email to rosetta@ubuntu.com asking for it10:38
sivangjordi: btw, may I as why are you annoyed?10:38
sivangcarlos: ok, what happens when you open it ? I become moderator / whatever and can approve new translators? can I then delegate it to another person?10:38
nakeeesivang: who is going throught the translation people submit for hebrew?you?10:38
jordisivang: I learned just now that I'm forced to give a talk in "Campus Party" about LliureX10:39
sivangjordi: hmm, is this some kind of an academic project?10:39
nakeeehmm that's not good10:39
nakeeeso all the translations ppl did so far didn't get in?10:40
carlossivang, as we know you, we can add you as the admin for that team and you can add other admins 10:40
carlosjordi, ;-)10:40
sivangnakeee: what carlos said :)10:40
sivangcarlos: what happened to all translations of poeple so far?10:40
carlossivang, is there a problem with their translations?10:40
jordisivang: no, one of these meetings of people with pcs where they spend a week copying porn, warez and movies and sleep very little10:42
sivangcarlos: thinking of the moderation now, something must have been done with the translations - either they are held back until review, or already in10:47
sivangcarlos: which is the right case?10:47
carlossivang, you will see them as suggestions10:47
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nakeeecarlos: I see there are suggestion from other places and found somewhere else comments11:14
nakeeeis it something rosetta adds?11:14
carlosnakeee, those are translations related to the one you are doing from other versions of that resource or from other projects11:15
nakeeewhat other projects?11:16
carlosnakeee, anyone imported into Rosetta11:17
nakeeeoh it looks for similar strings?11:17
carloswe will add a link to the origin of that suggestion11:17
carlosyeah11:17
nakeeecarlos: a use suggestion button might be nice so one wont need to copy paste it11:18
carlosnakeee, planned too11:18
nakeeeis there a way to add a dictionary project?like something that the string would be the words that appear in all other projects 11:22
nakeeeand then it can be used as reference while translating11:22
nakeeeto make sure wording is the same11:22
carlosnakeee, well, it would be a bit difficult11:23
nakeeehow so?11:23
carlosas we work with the whole string11:23
carlosso you need to add lots of terms there11:23
sivangcarlos: I'll email rosetta@ubuntu.com, for the translation group , k? :)11:23
carlosbut there is also a glossary like feature that will handle that by words11:24
carlossivang, sure11:24
nakeeewell, it  can use a word list but I thought like that it would be more effective11:24
nakeeecarlos: it just a script that need to run once and in the future just adding few words is no big deal11:24
sivangcarlos: done11:25
carlosnakeee, if you want to translate 'File' the same across all Ubuntu, you need it done with a glossary like feature11:26
carlosit's really difficult to store all kind of strings that contains that word11:26
carlosso you translate it always the same11:27
nakeeethat not what I mean11:27
nakeeeI mean it more as a hint to the translator11:27
nakeeehe can click on the word file and see how it appears in the dictionary11:27
nakeeeso he won't need to go around looking how it was in other projects11:27
carlosnakeee, so you are talking about a html file with a list of words11:29
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nakeeecarlos: yes only 1) I can translate those words using rosetta interface 2)I can quickly ask from inside rosetta what is certain's word translation11:41
carlosnakeee, that's not so trivial as you think...11:55
nakeeein what sense?11:56
carlosthat we cannot do it in an afternoon 11:58
nakeeemaybe, but I think it would be worse it11:59
nakeeeit would make the translation level of people a lot higher11:59
carlosI know, and as I said, it's a planned feature12:06
nakeeeok cool12:23
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jblackwhen is the meeting? Now or now +1 ?12:59
dafnow+112:59
jblackbe back01:00
jordidaf, carlos: where are we regarding importing/exporting?01:12
jordiis it fixed in production now?01:12
jordiI can't start mailing people if it's not working right now01:12
jordiwould scare people away.01:12
dafwe were just discussing it01:13
carlosjordi, we can add new potemplates now01:13
dafseems like breezy imports are being really slow01:13
carlosjordi, but the import is being a bit slow01:13
jordinod01:13
dafand slowing the other imports down01:13
carlosand that slows too other imports01:13
carlosX-)01:13
daf:)01:13
carlosdaf, get out of my mind!01:13
jordistop the echo effect01:13
dafcarlos: I suggest you mail launchpad about the problem01:15
dafcarlos: perhaps Steve or somebody will have an idea about debugging it01:15
carlosdaf, well, I suspect where the problem would be01:17
carlosdaf, but hadn't time to test my theory01:17
dafwhat's your hypothesis?01:17
carlosdaf, that the imports are failing because the poimports from breezy are attached by Rosetta admins and they are not editors01:19
dafwhy would that make it so slow?01:21
carlosbecause it takes time to do an import that it's rejected01:23
dafhmm01:23
dafand the rejected ones stay in the queue?01:23
carlosyeah01:26
carlosso a restart makes it slower01:26
dafouch01:26
dafwait a minute01:26
dafI thought they were marked as Failed01:27
dafand not tried again01:27
carlosdaf, it depends on the kind of error01:28
dafisn't that a bug?01:30
dafwhat if we change the permissions somehow?01:31
carlospermissions?01:37
carlosso it doesn't fall?01:37
carlosfall/fail/01:38
carlosthat's the plan, yes01:38
dafwhat's blocking it?01:42
carlosdaf, I was working on the language packs, remember?01:44
carlos:-)01:44
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dafcarlos: how are the language packs going? :)01:53
carlosdaf, added to the review queue01:53
carlosand being executed on mawson01:53
jdahlinelmo?01:54
jblacktime for the weekly meeting? 02:02
dafyes02:03
dafbut no SteveA02:03
jdahlinthere's no internet connection in the office here in brazil, where the meeting is held02:03
dafahh02:04
dafthat explains it :)02:04
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jblackIs somebody keeping a log, and we can just meet and send stevea the log? 02:07
dafI expect we'll have the meeting when they get their internet connection back02:07
dafthere's no point having a meeting with 4 people :)02:07
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carlosdaf, :-)02:07
bob2hah02:08
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morgs302:22
morgs202:22
morgs102:22
morgsMEETING E...02:22
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morgshiya02:23
SteveAhi02:23
SteveAno meeting today02:23
SteveAthe internet went down02:23
jblack!!02:23
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SteveAdaf, carlos, jblack, ddaa, morgs: the launchpad wiki will be read only for a few days02:26
ddaablah02:26
SteveAso that we can work from it directly here in brazil, in case our network goes down again02:26
carlosSteveA, ok02:26
morgsYou took the wiki with you?02:26
ddaaI was just running upstairs with my breakfast...02:27
carlosSteveA, how will we handle the review queue?02:27
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SteveAcarlos: good question02:27
SteveAcarlos: first of all, we won't have any reviewers available until later next week anyway02:28
carlosSteveA, I'm asking because I just added an entry there02:28
carlosok02:28
SteveAcarlos: that's okay. 02:28
dafyeah, I added a page just now02:28
SteveAcarlos: secondly, if we have urgent reviews then you need to mail them02:28
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dafapparently, I am now DafyddHarries402:28
SteveAif you have urgent updates to pages, you need to mail them to here and tell people02:28
SteveAdaf: you need to talk with stu about that02:28
dafok02:29
carlosok02:29
carlosdaf, I think you can change it from launchpad02:29
SteveAit is possible that you can't02:30
SteveAif you can't, tell stu02:30
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carlosstub, I will need to cherrypick a patchset today, would it be possible?02:32
carlosdaf, my theory was correct, I have a test and the fix ready02:32
stubEmail me and lifeless as per usual02:32
dafcarlos: fix?02:33
dafcarlos: make it fail when the permissions are wrong?02:33
dafcarlos: or rather, makrk the import as failed02:33
carloshmmm02:34
carlosdaf, that other fix should be done too. Thank's for remind me it02:34
dafheh02:34
dafwhat was your fix?02:34
dafeven better, check the permissions *before* doing the import02:34
dafto avoid doing unneccessary work02:34
carlosdaf, canEditTranslations returns True always if it's a rosetta expert02:35
dafah02:36
dafrosetta admin, you mean?02:36
dafdoes that use a celebrity?02:36
dafif it doesn't, it should02:37
carlosit does02:37
carlosthat's why I said Rosetta expert ;-)02:37
dafhmm02:37
dafok02:37
carloshmmm02:41
carlosdaf, the error is: raise AssertionError, 'published translations are ALWAYS is_editor'02:41
carlosdaf, that was a programming error that the test will detect in the future02:41
carlosI don't think we should try to catch that exception02:42
dafcan we change that message to something clearer?02:42
dafand it's better to use AssertionError("...")02:42
dafnot AssersionError, "..."02:42
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salgadolifeless, can you check what happened with a merge request I sent 30mins ago? I didn't get any mail from pqm and it's already processed03:12
morgscprov: some friends of mine use jira, very shiny but in java...03:12
cprovmorgs:yeah, I've seen it in a comparision with Trac (http://trac.edgewall.com) which smells much better because is python03:15
lifelesslooks like it failed03:18
lifelessI'm betting your mail is borked after the outage and the result will come later03:18
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jblacklifeless: I had a couple problems to tell you about this morning, but they're worked out. 03:41
lifelesscol03:41
lifelesscool I mean03:41
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jblackbtw, good morning. Hope you're well. =) 03:42
dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  Bug 1279: Move bazaar branches from portal to main part of product page (patch-2183: morgan.collett@canonical.com)03:43
mptcprov: WordPress uses Rosetta for translations, and Trac for issue/changeset tracking04:03
dilysNew Malone bug 1602 filed on Bazaar by Matthieu Moy: baz inventory panic()s on unreadable directories04:04
dilyshttps://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/160204:04
ddaasivang: anybody can contribute to bazaar (that is baz or bzr), they are just plain vanilla free software projects.04:05
sivangddaa: ah nice, I deduced that from the rocketfuel dillys spit outs, I saw "patch from jone doe, ....." :)04:07
sivangddaa: but I reckon the canonical versions and the upstream vanilla are different no?04:08
morgssivang: the canonical one *is* the upstream one...04:09
jameshsivang: we use the same baz as everyone else04:09
sivangjamesh, morgs : ah oops, thanks fellas for the enlightment :)04:10
morgs:)04:10
cprovmpt: Trac rocks a lot, I use it for private/public issue tracking and our clients like a lot the wiki/tickets/SVNview/Roadmap integration 04:15
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dafmorgs: seems to me that owners of teams always get notifications about membership requests04:32
dafmorgs: so I get these notifications about teams I've created but which I'm not a memeber of04:32
dafmorgs: these teams do have admins who take care of the membership applications04:32
salgadodaf, I fixed this in one of the branches I'm working on. that was a bug.04:33
dafcool04:33
salgadofrom the days before TeamEmail04:33
dafwhy did I think that morgs was the teams person?04:34
salgadodaf, I asked that question to myself too. maybe you're the right person to answer? :P04:34
dafheh04:35
dafwell, I don't know04:35
dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  BuildFarm works again, bits repaired and ready for deep redesign. (patch-2184: celso.providelo@canonical.com)04:57
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dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  PackageVersionVerification and tweaks (patch-2185: stuart.bishop@canonical.com)05:24
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dilysNew Malone bug 1603 filed on Registry by Morgan Collett: RDF fails when team has an email05:45
dilyshttps://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/160305:45
dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  Bug 1279: Move bazaar branches from portal to main part of product page, add URL (patch-2186: morgan.collett@canonical.com)05:50
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kikocarlos?06:29
Keybukdaf: see you soon06:29
Keybukbe sure to pack any diseases you might want to bring with you06:30
Keybukeveryone else has06:30
dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [r=SteveA]  add facet menus to people and projects.  add calendar link to facets (patch-2187: james.henstridge@canonical.com)06:35
carloskiko, ?06:39
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dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  Added Rosetta experts as editors for every .po file (patch-2188: carlos.perello@canonical.com)07:10
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dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: Some fixes as per Steve review. Do not use Subsets to traverse; instead do the traversal by consuming items from the traversal stack. r=SteveA (patch-2189: guilherme.salgado@canonical.com)08:33
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SteveAsalgado: jim fulton says +1 to modifying zope/security/checker.py to have declarations for set and frozenset, using a try:except NameError to make it still work with python 2.3.09:03
SteveAsalgado: you can tell stub, or whatever09:03
salgadoSteveA, great. I'll talk to stub09:06
SteveAthanks09:13
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salgadostub, <SteveA> salgado: jim fulton says +1 to modifying zope/security/checker.py to have declarations for set and frozenset, using a try:except NameError to make it still work with python 2.3.09:20
salgadowould you fix that for me?09:20
stubshh.... I'm sleeping09:21
Kinnisonlies09:21
stubok09:23
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.5: new build (patch-59)11:05
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar--devo--1.5: Added ARCH_LOG to commit, import and tag hooks (patch-45: Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr)11:06
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.5: new build (patch-60)11:21
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dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar--devo--1.5: rbrowse shows revisions one-by-one (not version per-version) (patch-46: Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr)11:22

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