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| Tonio- | Hi there ;) | 12:02 |
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| Tonio- | Anyone here having the repo for kde 3.4.2 ? | 12:02 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: see kubuntu.org | 12:03 |
| Tonio- | Already public ? | 12:03 |
| Tonio- | I thought it was still testing | 12:03 |
| Tonio- | Ho yeah, officialy released by kde today ! nice ;) Thanks a lot | 12:04 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: I'm just packaging ksystemlog cleanly. | 12:05 |
| Tonio- | I'm telling you this because I know you are interesseted in adding it to the next version of livecd | 12:05 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: actually I've already tidied up your ksystemlog package | 12:07 |
| Riddell | on revu | 12:08 |
| Tonio- | yep but it isn't compliant is it ? i'm checking | 12:09 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: I'm actually preparing a new package who might be correct ;) | 12:10 |
| Tonio- | I have done my first policy compliant package yesterday so it might be okay now, I have the technique lol | 12:11 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: I'll be posted in one hour max... | 12:12 |
| Mez | Riddell, ping | 12:22 |
| Riddell | Mez: toot | 12:22 |
| Mez | can you have a look at the k3b-i18n package in REVU | 12:23 |
| Mez | it's confusing the hell outta me | 12:23 |
| Mez | the thing says I'm referring to arch dependent packages | 12:24 |
| Mez | but I dont refer to arch dependt packages | 12:24 |
| Mez | http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/incoming/k3b-i18n-0507281510/k3b-i18n-0.12.2/debian/control | 12:24 |
| Riddell | which thing says that? | 12:25 |
| Mez | lintian | 12:25 |
| Mez | fecjk | 12:25 |
| Mez | (>=0.12) | 12:25 |
| Mez | not (>= 0.12) | 12:25 |
| Mez | that was prob what it was bitching about | 12:25 |
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| Riddell | Mez: still need me to look at it or will you upload a fixed version? | 12:38 |
| Mez | Riddell, uploaded, just waiting for REVU to proces itr | 12:39 |
| Mez | Riddell, http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=253 | 12:44 |
| Mez | I would upload it myself... but still wiating :D | 12:45 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: klibido looks good, I'm going to advocate it | 12:46 |
| Tonio- | okay ;) thanks | 12:46 |
| Riddell | wow, dholbach is strict | 12:47 |
| Riddell | Mez: are you able to advocate stuff yet? | 12:47 |
| Tonio- | yep, amazigly strict ;) It helped making great progress but sometime I must say I'm confused of what to do... | 12:48 |
| Tonio- | I cannot ask to the developper to clean his source code for ubuntu addition should I ?? ^_^ | 12:48 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: you can send polite comments back to the developers yes :) | 12:49 |
| Tonio- | okay, well not a problem with pwmanager whom I contact very often... | 12:49 |
| Tonio- | What file is concerned by this comment ? you should talk to upstream about how serious these two messages are: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath ./usr/lib/kde3/kded_pwmanager_kwalletemu.so /usr/lib | 12:50 |
| Tonio- | I searched quickly but didn't find where it was... | 12:50 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: that's a lintian error, but I don't get any such error | 12:50 |
| Riddell | lintian foo.deb and lintian foo.dsc | 12:51 |
| Tonio- | I don't to.... this is the reason U wasn't able to find.... | 12:51 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: pwmanager good too.. advocating | 12:53 |
| Tonio- | nice ;) | 12:53 |
| Mez | Riddell, yes | 12:54 |
| Riddell | who is muszilla@users.sourceforge? | 12:54 |
| Mez | dholbach is very very strict ridell :D | 12:54 |
| Riddell | Mez: fancy advocating ksystemlog, pwmanager and klibido then? | 12:55 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: no need to rebuilt ksystemlog so I'll probably add kmplayer and klamav today or tomorow | 12:55 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: cool | 12:55 |
| Mez | Riddell - muszilla=Andreas Mussgiller | 12:55 |
| Tonio- | Mez: yep amazingly, but for personns like who are learning packaging this is a very good way to learn also ! | 12:55 |
| Riddell | Mez: is he on IRC? | 12:56 |
| Tonio- | hum guys, little question concerning sources modifications... | 12:56 |
| Mez | Riddell, no idea | 12:56 |
| Mez | and for ksystemlog, it was agreed that | 12:57 |
| Mez | Debian package: | 12:57 |
| Mez | Copyright 2005 Jonathan Riddell <jriddell@ubuntu.com> | 12:57 |
| Mez | shoudlnt be there | 12:57 |
| Tonio- | If I have for example CVS folders to remove, should that be done with a cdbs patch or would you do directly in the sources ? | 12:57 |
| Mez | This package was debianized by Jonathan Riddell <jriddell@ubuntu.com> on | 12:57 |
| Mez | Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:41:21 +0200. | 12:57 |
| Mez | then another saying same thing | 12:57 |
| Mez | It's not right | 12:57 |
| Mez | and packaging cant be "copyrighted" | 12:57 |
| Mez | as it's all based off of dh_make in the first place | 12:57 |
| Mez | :D | 12:57 |
| Tonio- | I may post a new version exactly done like klibido don't you wan't ? | 12:58 |
| Riddell | Mez: it's not based off dh_make | 12:58 |
| Mez | it will have been at some point :d | 12:58 |
| Tonio- | I have ksystemlog right now on the computer.... | 12:58 |
| Mez | but yeah, the copyright for the package shouldnt be there tecnically | 12:58 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: I'd remove CVS directories to sources before making the .orig file | 12:58 |
| Mez | I asked this earlier, cause it seemed wrong to have ti twice, and ogra said it shouldnt really be tyhere | 12:59 |
| Tonio- | okay, so I'll keep doning this and maybe mention that to the changelog | 12:59 |
| Riddell | why not? | 12:59 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: if dh gives you hassle get me to poke him :) | 12:59 |
| Mez | Riddell: cause it already says who it was packaged by right abve that | 01:00 |
| Tonio- | hehe ^^ | 01:00 |
| Riddell | Mez: but doesn't say who it's copyright to | 01:00 |
| Mez | Riddell: I don't see how you can copyright a package | 01:01 |
| Tonio- | he should be in gentoo community or even freebsd ^^ | 01:01 |
| Mez | seeing as someone will have at some point dont exactly the same thing | 01:01 |
| Mez | and unless you apply a licence to the packaging of it | 01:01 |
| Mez | it means noone can work on the package | 01:01 |
| Tonio- | Riddell: appart from that he send me an email saying he was fine finding a newbie making efforts and encourgaging me a lot... | 01:02 |
| Tonio- | strict but very nice guy I must say ;) | 01:02 |
| Mez | Riddell, I've not seen a single package dh has liked | 01:02 |
| Riddell | dh is lovely really :) | 01:02 |
| Mez | he';s a good guy | 01:03 |
| Tonio- | I looked at revues to find error not to commit and I must say I didn't saw one dh's "yes" advocating ;) | 01:03 |
| Mez | just very strict and seems to be able to get any package and list a massive long list of faults | 01:03 |
| Mez | brb | 01:03 |
| Tonio- | <Riddell> dh is lovely really :) -> from what I've read I must say I completly agree ;) | 01:04 |
| Mez | Riddell, I already advocated pwmanager | 01:07 |
| Tonio- | And in a MOTU's school he would be the perfect teacher I think... Lokk at his revu and you can learn a lot concerning the specific points to look at. | 01:08 |
| Mez | oh, and Tonio- sorry for the load of "copy and paste" reviews :D | 01:08 |
| Riddell | Mez: ah, so you did | 01:08 |
| Mez | and klibido | 01:08 |
| Mez | Riddell, can you advocate ? | 01:09 |
| Tonio- | Mez, I really want to learn making good packages... I learned a lot that way, so that's perfectly okay to me | 01:09 |
| Mez | Tonio-, I was hoping youd see it that way and not me just slating your packages | 01:09 |
| Mez | I did add a couple of comments on the ones I saw with other problems than the c&p ones, have a poke around them | 01:09 |
| Mez | like the zlib/bzlib one :D | 01:10 |
| Riddell | Mez: yes but it silently doesn't add it if I just tick the box without a comment, silly of it | 01:10 |
| Mez | lol | 01:10 |
| Mez | Tonio-, you do check that these build on breezy dpon't you? | 01:10 |
| Tonio- | nope, I don't know how to get the breezy packages list | 01:11 |
| Tonio- | I just wanted to ask how to be sure that a package isn't already added | 01:11 |
| Tonio- | so how ? ^^ | 01:11 |
| Mez | Tonio - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PBuilderHowto | 01:11 |
| Mez | hmmles | 01:11 |
| Mez | why were package archived that havent been uploaded | 01:12 |
| Tonio- | hu ? I look but didn't find.... | 01:12 |
| Tonio- | let me check once more | 01:12 |
| Riddell | Mez: k3b-i18n doesn't package if you debuild then debuild -S | 01:13 |
| Tonio- | Mez: what does "to slate" means ? | 01:13 |
| Tonio- | no forget -> google.com ;) | 01:15 |
| Mez | Riddell: can you upload php4-universe for me? | 01:18 |
| Tonio- | Mez: I didn't read correctly, so yes, I'm building packages with pbuilder from the beggining according to Riddell advices | 01:18 |
| Tonio- | sorry for the confusion, I didn'"t pratice much english for 5 years and sometime I'mm not understanding everything correctly hehe ^^ | 01:18 |
| Mez | Riddell, wtf are uncleaned gmo files? | 01:18 |
| Tonio- | hum, same stupid question | 01:20 |
| Tonio- | If I wanna add an application, how to know if it is already in breezy ? | 01:20 |
| Tonio- | Is downloading packages.gz on the repo the only solution ? | 01:20 |
| Riddell | Mez: dpkg-source: cannot represent change to zh_CN/messages/libk3bdevice.gmo: binary file contents changed | 01:20 |
| Mez | Tonio-, packages.ubuntu.com | 01:20 |
| Mez | Riddell, I have NO idea what that means :D | 01:21 |
| Riddell | Mez: do a debuild then a debuild -S | 01:21 |
| Riddell | it doesn't remove all the generated files | 01:21 |
| Tonio- | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH good ! | 01:21 |
| Mez | Riddell - am trying | 01:21 |
| Mez | and Riddell - how do i fix that | 01:21 |
| Riddell | Mez: quick fix would be adding find . -name *gmo | xargs rm to debian/rules clean | 01:22 |
| Riddell | bit of a kludge but | 01:22 |
| Mez | Riddell: your hoary 3.4.2.packages are b0rked | 01:23 |
| Mez | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 01:23 |
| Mez | libarts1-dev: Depends: libarts1c2 (= 1.4.2-0ubuntu0hoary1) but it is not going to be installed | 01:23 |
| Mez | libarts1c2: Conflicts: libarts1 but 1.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1 is to be installed | 01:24 |
| Riddell | Mez: that's not good | 01:25 |
| Mez | lol | 01:25 |
| Mez | and it also breaks on an upgrade too | 01:26 |
| Mez | and, to try and remove it, you have to remove EVERYTHING in kubuntu :D | 01:26 |
| Riddell | Mez: where are you getting it from? | 01:27 |
| Mez | mez@apathy:/backports/arena/k3b-i38n/k3b-i18n-0.12.2$ apt-cache madison libarts1c2 | 01:29 |
| Mez | libarts1c2 | 1.4.2-0ubuntu0hoary1 | http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk hoary-updates/main Packages | 01:29 |
| Mez | mez@apathy:/backports/arena/k3b-i38n/k3b-i18n-0.12.2$ | 01:29 |
| Tonio- | hum, just building kmplayer with possibly mplayer support, doesn't mplayer has dev package just like xine or gstreamer ? | 01:30 |
| Riddell | Mez: there was an old version that had arts problems but the current packages look fine to me | 01:31 |
| Mez | ah, seems i got that version | 01:32 |
| Mez | did an update and lots shineh new packages | 01:32 |
| Mez | Riddell, you know, I've only noticed one change | 01:32 |
| Mez | and thats the "system places" icon has changes | 01:32 |
| Mez | Riddell, can you upload php4-universe for me pleasE :D | 01:33 |
| Mez | oh god | 01:34 |
| Mez | someone REALLY needs a life | 01:34 |
| Riddell | who? | 01:35 |
| Mez | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=kitchensync | 01:35 |
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| Mez | lol | 01:35 |
| Mez | wheover thought up that name | 01:35 |
| Riddell | cornelius I think :) | 01:35 |
| Mez | KDE: Everything includig the Kitchen Sink (spelling may vary) | 01:36 |
| Mez | Riddell, you still need ops on #kubuntu ? | 01:37 |
| Riddell | Mez: dunno, depends if there are going to be trouble makers there | 01:37 |
| Riddell | what is php4-universe? | 01:37 |
| Mez | it was originally a rebuild cvause of UnmentDeps | 01:38 |
| Mez | but had to change it a lil to fix it :D | 01:38 |
| Riddell | has it been uploaded before? | 01:39 |
| Mez | yeah, it's not a new package | 01:40 |
| Mez | I just dont have my upload access yet | 01:40 |
| Mez | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=all&subword=0&exact=1&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=php4-universe&searchon=sourcenames | 01:40 |
| Riddell | why is it called universe? | 01:41 |
| Mez | Riddell: I'd suggest nikkia as an op in #kubuntu if you need one. They're give very good quality support | 01:41 |
| Mez | Riddell, because it provides PHP packages that arent needed in main | 01:42 |
| Mez | http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/source/php4 | 01:42 |
| Mez | vs http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/source/php4-universe | 01:42 |
| Riddell | nikkia looks like a girl from england, sure you're not just trying to chat her up? :) | 01:43 |
| Mez | Riddell, no, I have a gf :D | 01:43 |
| Mez | (and i didnt know she was from engladn I just know she gives good support) | 01:44 |
| Riddell | she's ignoring my /msg | 02:04 |
| Mez | and mine :D | 02:04 |
| Mez | what you say | 02:04 |
| Riddell | just said hi | 02:05 |
| Riddell | she probably gets that a lot :) | 02:05 |
| Mez | she doesnt see /msgs | 02:06 |
| Mez | ircssi | 02:06 |
| Riddell | irssi, should pick them up fine | 02:07 |
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| Mez | Riddell, just to quash the rumours your spreading | 03:40 |
| Mez | <Riddell> nikkia looks like a girl from england, sure you're not just trying to chat her up? :) | 03:40 |
| Mez | why would I need to when I have this --> http://www.cheesenibbles.com/files/mez/emily.jpg | 03:40 |
| Mez | anyways | 03:40 |
| Mez | night | 03:40 |
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| fromoze | Hi, just a comment about 3.4.2. I see the kcontrol isn't in the kmenu. I'm agree to use the preferences on System-Menu; but I'm disagree with no more acces to kcontrol. I'm adding a kcontrol launcher in kmenu-->System. | 10:38 |
| fromoze | IMHO, kcontrol is easier for old-school kde user... | 10:39 |
| Mez | I think that's to make the way for kde-systemsettings | 10:54 |
| Mez | and it was forgotten about in 3.4.2 | 10:54 |
| fromoze | ok, i see, I didn't have the package kde-systemsettings installed... I need to make a aptitude install kubuntu-desktop to see if I forgot something more :$ | 10:57 |
| fromoze | now, system settings is where kcontrol used to stay .. | 10:58 |
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| pef | hello | 01:27 |
| JRe | hello pef | 01:27 |
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| JRe | Riddell: you think that Tenor will be ready for KDE 4 ? | 02:13 |
| Riddell | JRe: that's the target yes | 02:22 |
| JRe | Riddell:sure =) | 02:22 |
| JRe | Riddell: but development has not yet started or i'm wrong ? | 02:22 |
| Riddell | JRe: development started long ago but it's still throwing ideas about, #klink is the channel | 02:23 |
| JRe | Riddell: thanks! | 02:23 |
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| Tonio- | hi there | 02:47 |
| JRe | hi Tonio- | 02:47 |
| Tonio- | anyone aware of a little bug in Amarok sice 3.4.2 ? | 02:47 |
| Tonio- | I have a bug in the gui.... | 02:47 |
| Tonio- | hi JRe ;) | 02:48 |
| JRe | what is the bug ? | 02:48 |
| Tonio- | I post a snap... | 02:48 |
| Tonio- | http://www.planetemu.net/temp/capture17.png | 02:51 |
| Tonio- | here it is.... | 02:51 |
| JRe | hehe du cabrel =) =) | 02:52 |
| JRe | tough it seems to be a bad bug =( | 02:53 |
| Tonio- | yep | 02:53 |
| Tonio- | duno if that is due to amarok's code or the compilation... | 02:53 |
| Tonio- | need to see if the sources have been hacked... | 02:53 |
| Tonio- | and yes, Cabrel is good (if you understand french) ^^ | 02:54 |
| JRe | Tonio-: it only has started to happen after KDE 3.4.2 installation? | 02:54 |
| Tonio- | yep | 02:56 |
| Tonio- | it was working fine before this | 02:56 |
| JRe | mmm strange bug | 02:57 |
| Tonio- | I just wanted to know i other users have the problem before trying to investigate a bit more or reporting that to bugzilla... | 02:57 |
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| Riddell | Tonio-: what's the problem? | 05:41 |
| JRe | Riddell: seems to be fixed | 05:43 |
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| Tonio- | Riddell: well I had an error on the guy | 06:02 |
| Tonio- | but I relaunched the app two or three times and it dissapered | 06:02 |
| Tonio- | you can look at the snapshot, in the list, the 8 (I think) first lines are program options ;) | 06:03 |
| Riddell | ah I see. weird | 06:05 |
| Tonio- | yep, and that dissapired, just like that..... | 06:10 |
| Tonio- | sounds amazing.... maybe a bug in the sqlite database..... | 06:11 |
| Tonio- | that was detected and corrected after a few loadings....... | 06:11 |
| Tonio- | ah Riddell I have a little question concerning a package, because I don't want to create any problems on REVU... | 06:13 |
| Tonio- | Knemo is an excellent app, but already package, that will cause an issue already in breezy.. | 06:14 |
| Tonio- | icons conflict with knetworkconf..... | 06:14 |
| Riddell | hmm, I thought I'd fixed that | 06:14 |
| Tonio- | ah ? | 06:14 |
| Tonio- | okay | 06:14 |
| Riddell | well maybe I havn't if you still see the problem | 06:15 |
| Tonio- | so you can remove the corrected version on I posted on revu ;) | 06:15 |
| Tonio- | but I mean, the best way to correct the problem is ? | 06:15 |
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| Riddell | I changed the icon in knetworkconf actually (since it's in KDE's SVN I could change it there too) | 06:15 |
| Tonio- | the rename the icons and change the makefile, or remove the icons ? and doing that directly in the sources or within a cdbs patch ? | 06:15 |
| Tonio- | ah good ;) | 06:16 |
| Tonio- | can you remove the package I posted tu REVU so ? | 06:16 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: are you getting an error in breezy? | 06:16 |
| Tonio- | or at list put it in archived ? it doesn't need to be reviewed | 06:16 |
| Tonio- | nope | 06:16 |
| Tonio- | I mean I didn't try | 06:16 |
| Tonio- | bu because knetworkconf sources includes those icons and same for knemo | 06:17 |
| Tonio- | I belived the problem will remain isn't it ? | 06:17 |
| Tonio- | or maybe in svn version of knetworkconf it is different... | 06:17 |
| Riddell | well it /should/ be fixed by knetworkconf but maybe I didn't | 06:17 |
| Riddell | I'll take a look at it | 06:17 |
| Tonio- | okay | 06:18 |
| Tonio- | well in any case if it isn't you know I have a corrected package ;) | 06:18 |
| Tonio- | vut patching the sources requires cdbs patch to be validated according to the REVU policies no ? | 06:18 |
| Riddell | :) | 06:18 |
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| Riddell | hello muszilla | 06:19 |
| muszilla | Howdy | 06:19 |
| Tonio- | I did that manually in the sources and put the informations in the changelog.... Is it enought ? | 06:19 |
| Tonio- | hi muszilla | 06:19 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: I think revu's 3 approval rule is only for new packages, anything else you can upload there and someone can upload as they see fit | 06:19 |
| Tonio- | doesn't require 3 approval ? only one is okay ? | 06:20 |
| Tonio- | well let's see one month before breezy, I'll have a look to see if the problem is present, and then reporting to you.... | 06:21 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: well the 3 approval is for new packages as far as I know | 06:21 |
| Tonio- | okay | 06:21 |
| Tonio- | concerning kmplayer, I had it without koffice support, and emailed the upstream about what is it used for | 06:21 |
| Riddell | Tonio-: good plan | 06:21 |
| Tonio- | if it is important feature (but doesn't sounds), I'll put a 0ubuntu2 version with it | 06:22 |
| Riddell | muszilla: you must be the kweather man. welcome along | 06:22 |
| Tonio- | the problem is that a complete koffice dependancie is perhaps too much for a simple konqueror plusgin unless the integration th koffice is important feature.... | 06:23 |
| Riddell | it's possible the koffice stuff is a loadable plugin in which case it could be put in a separate package. but this is unlikely | 06:26 |
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| Tonio- | well, the fact that the official doesn't have any reference to koffice so that might be only "in project" or very very optionnal feature..... | 06:27 |
| Tonio- | that's the reason I wouldn't personnaly have to install the full koffice for juste little video plugin.... | 06:28 |
| Tonio- | the official site excuse ma... | 06:28 |
| muszilla | kweather? No, that is not me... | 07:04 |
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