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salilanyone who can help me install bluetooth adapter..?12:00
apokryphossalil: heh, still, eh?12:00
FiretechI have a Bluetooth dongle...12:00
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azikFiretech, uhm, then near 60MB/s... my hard disk  don't go so fast :)12:00
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salilapokryphos: yes.12:00
salilapokryphos: nevin has left..12:00
salilapokryphos: so i'm stranded now12:00
LiNoHi'd like to know if after install i can normally use "sudo" to run root programs12:00
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azikperhaps is the disk a bottleneck?12:01
BirdFishHi, how would I go about making a panel completely invisible?  When I set the visibility, it still shows a bar on each side.12:01
sun_hi is there a way to keep gdm from starting when ubuntu boots12:01
Firetechanother question: is ti possible to "rename" (disk name) a FAT partition from linux?12:01
tucozLasseL, thanks a lot. Works like a charm12:01
hollywoodbsalil: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34740 *might* help12:01
salilapokryphos: do you know how to install bluetooth adapter..?12:01
jowiLiNoH, you should. you can add users to /etc/sudoers12:01
salilhollywoodb: thanks.. i'll try12:01
apokryphossalil: no idea I'm afraid -- never used it12:01
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caduxorg has better performance than xfree?12:03
cadu:")12:03
cadusun_: remove it from your default runlevel12:03
jazzanovai am using uxterm. how do i select a larger size utf8 font ?12:03
xulinnanuit12:03
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jazzanovahow can i find out the font that uxterm uses now, by default ?12:04
jowijazzanova, if you are using gnome you should look under prefs->font (sorry for being unspecifig, no gnome started here)12:05
Derkommissari want a terminal for x that would not hug up as much as the gnome-terminal does... but that would give me funtions like copy-n-paste and scroll back,,, something as ligth as xterm but with the basic features12:05
jazzanovai am not using gnome12:05
jowijazzanova, what are you using?12:05
hollywoodbDerkommissar: i always liked rxvt & aterm12:05
jazzanovai am using ratpoison12:05
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jazzanovai want the font that i need to give to -fn option for uxterm12:06
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LiNoHjowi, thanks12:06
jazzanovathe font is this long ugly string.  which part of it says that it is a utf8 font ?12:06
godzirra_Seveas: are you here?12:06
LiNoHbut i had problem with my last ubuntu install12:06
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LiNoHi couldnt run programs with sudo12:07
linuksoDerkommissar: rxvt-unicode is great!12:07
sun_is there a program which can record audio off my microphone?12:07
LiNoHaind i didn't know root pass12:07
Derkommissarcool12:07
godzirra_Seveas: I was told to ask you about splashimages with grub.  For some reason I can get mine to work at the grub command prompt, but not when actually booting up.12:07
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Derkommissargonna download it12:07
jazzanovasun: arecord12:07
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cybernightlifeLiNoH:  This is the reason I installed Ubuntu with the expert mode.12:07
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hollywoodbjazzanova: xfontsel/quit12:08
mpmcnot very busy in here is it tonight?12:08
LiNoHcybernightlife, i didn't see default or expert in instalation12:08
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LiNoHdoes somebody know an IRC chat with ubuntu support in portuguese?12:09
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LiNoHi dont speak english very well12:09
mpmcLinoh: try /list12:09
dtorg21#ndiswrapper12:09
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LiNoHhum..12:09
jazzanovahollywoodb: so what it is supposed to do when i quit ?12:09
cybernightlifeLiNoH:  When you start your PC with the Ubuntu CD-ROM in the drive, you will get the boot prompt.12:09
sun_how do you launch xorg from the cmd line? ie is it just startx as usual?12:09
cybernightlifeTo get there, type "expert" to start expert mode.12:10
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LiNoHcybernightlife, hum..12:10
LiNoHthanks12:10
cybernightlifeYou're welcome.12:10
jazzanovais the 'u' in the encoding, at the end of the font name, stand for utf ?12:10
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LiNoHwhen it was "boot:"12:10
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LiNoHcybernightlife, how i install with expert mode? whats the difference?12:11
holycowmore questions12:11
brian__ok im back12:11
brian__had a house call12:11
brian__terrible stuff12:11
cybernightlifeLiNoH:  Expert mode gives you control over most aspects of your Ubuntu installation.12:11
holycowwindows again  brian__ ?12:11
brian__yeah they were all runnin winblows12:11
hybrid_gothlol12:12
jowibrian__, all of them? how many are you talking about?! lol12:12
cybernightlifeIncluding the root password.  The root account is disabled in the default installation, but not with expert mode.12:12
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holycowbrian__, i've had a similar reaction in those situations12:12
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holycowi now litterally hate having to run and fix windows12:12
holycownot for any elitist reason, it makes me money and thats good12:12
brian__i had a voicemail when i got back12:12
holycowi think i'm just spoiled on linux12:13
hybrid_gothholycow: fixing other ppls over then fone sux12:13
brian__the lady said her kids put a broken cd in th e "cd changer" and the pieces fell into the modem12:13
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holycowhybrid_goth, i don't mind that, i litterally just hate having to sit down and try to fix that useless pos.12:13
brian__lmao12:13
holycowits an endless cycle of virus scans, spyware scans, reboots12:13
popeymy sisters daughters have ballsed up their windows pc12:13
popeyi have to fix it12:13
holycowreboots into 'safe mode'12:13
popeyit's so tiresome12:14
holycowreboots into normal mode12:14
aarcaneholycow, too much Linux is a bad thing..  it gets you accustomed to things just working, which is not at all like the reality of computers using Windows and Mac...12:14
brian__yeah all runnin comcraps in the house12:14
popeyit wont boot12:14
holycowinstall driver, reboot12:14
linuksoHi! I see that ubuntu-backports and extras are in the official archives.12:14
holycowit takes forever to get anything done12:14
brian__and all had unbelievable amounts of SHIT12:14
godzirra_Anyone have any experience with splashimages in grub?12:14
brian__it was almost as if they purposely clicked on every po-up they got12:14
mpmcholycow: Windoze.. is easy to mess up...12:14
holycowaarcane, and i honestly am not a zealot in the sense that i'm being snooty, its just a lot easier to run linux12:14
mpmcwindows 95 is even easier!12:14
holycowmpmc, *nod*12:14
aarcaneholycow, totally true12:15
AndaresHi.12:15
AndaresIs there some lib called "gl"?12:15
brian__i wish i could say that12:15
aarcaneholycow, although I am a zealout..12:15
AndaresBecause I CANT FIND IT12:15
brian__I will be able to soon12:15
aarcaneAndares, nope..  shouldn't be a lib called that.  it's a 3D hardware thing12:15
brian__im just going to pretend I dont have windows xp and even if I did i wouldnt know how to crack it12:15
esacok seriously, has anybody gotten evolution to work with a microsoft exchange server ?12:15
holycowaarcane, well i admit to being labeled that :) ehe, if it wasn't made by ms but some other company, it would still suck just as much i mean12:15
LiNoHcybernightlife, hum..  but the install is similar? and it is difficult to beginning users?12:16
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brian__my main thing is being able to run my fav game12:16
brian__thats all12:16
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poningruI had a question why isnt nautilus fully explorer like?12:16
SprflyZappanyone know of a linux app that plays wmv files??12:16
poningruby default12:16
brian__i even bought cedega last night but have no idea what to do with the installs12:17
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holycowbrian__, hey, if you gotta run windows,  you gotta12:17
holycownothin wrong with that12:17
brian__NO12:17
Kamziflyzapp: realplayer for linux mite  if u can get the plugins12:17
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holycowi still gotta fire up dreamweaver on win2k on vmware because quanta is very very crashy12:17
frankponingru: that is what I hate most about gnome. and also why i like kde. the file manager12:17
brian__dont say things like that12:17
brian__ever again12:17
holycowlol12:17
holycow:)12:17
salilanyone who can help me with installing bluetooth adapter??12:17
jazzanovain xfontsel i can see that i only have one unicode font12:17
brian__:P12:17
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holycowwelcome12:18
holycow:)12:18
holycowhaha12:18
jazzanovawhere i download more fonts ?12:18
poningrufrank: you probably havent tried it to the fullest12:18
frankSprflyZapp: all the media players work with wmv. You need w32codecs12:18
frankponingru: most likely not12:18
brian__tx12:18
cybernightlifeLiNoH:  Yes, it is similar, and it is just a matter of reading the screens and answering questions.  When in doubt, use the defaults.12:18
holycowjazzanova, well the internet is generaly a good start12:18
Kamzisalil: u wanna install a usb bluetooth dondle in linux ?12:18
holycow-_-12:18
SprflyZappdoes totem?12:18
brian__;)12:18
poningrudo you see an address bar? a zoom level etc.?12:18
salilyes12:18
jazzanovaholycow: no debian package ?12:18
roodeecan anyone tell me how to install AMULE?12:18
Kamzisalil: try good ol  google12:18
cybernightlifeAs for ease of use, Ubuntu installation is very similar IMO to the text mode Red Hat (Fedora) install.\12:18
jazzanovai want a standard font for uxterm12:18
holycowjazzanova, theres really no such thing as free fonts12:18
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salilKamzi: yes12:18
deprave-anyone know where i can snag a different skin for bmp?12:18
jazzanovathat is slightly bigger than default12:19
brian__i just want to have "control" over my OS and "MY" computer12:19
holycowfonts are usually for pay, unless they suck12:19
Kamziroodee: do  mean emule ?12:19
fabiohola12:19
SprflyZappyeah there is free fonts12:19
brian__not bill gates runnin my shit12:19
holycowin which case you can try the terrible free fonts12:19
frankroodee: its in universe. Install with synaptic12:19
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salilKamzi: i did.. lot of stuff there.. but. too much of a mess...12:19
holycowor you can buy adobe font folio12:19
frankKamzi: its amule12:19
mpmcfor fonts try www.dafonts.com12:19
fabionecesito conf el aptitude y nose como alguien me ayuda12:19
spet2134aloco12:19
spet2134q issu???12:19
python_yes deprave : type "gnome look" into google12:19
roodeei am an newbe12:19
holycowyou can use all adobe truetype fonts, by simply putting them into your ~/user/.font folder12:19
spet2134 ingreis?????12:19
SprflyZappor google the word open source fonts12:19
frankfabio: spanish -> #ubuntu-es12:19
cybernightlife...and is no more difficult to install than Windows XP, only you save the massive licensing fees  :-)12:19
Kamzisalil: what make, model try the companys website sometimes you can be surprised12:19
roodeethe online help did not work well12:19
brian__roodee join the club12:19
spet2134awwawawawawawawawaw12:19
fabiook12:19
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roodeehow do i do that?12:20
brian__well the main thing is getting to know the termonology12:20
spet2134q merda12:20
jazzanovai want a font 9x15 but with utf812:20
spet2134isso aqui!!!12:20
spet2134caca12:20
holycowcybernightlife, and the indignity of 'having to register'12:20
salilKamzi: i only have that dmesg gave me..  HCI USB driver ver 2.712:20
frank!addingrepositories12:20
ubotuI don't know, frank12:20
brian__then what you read in help forums you will be able to somewhat comprehend12:20
holycowevery time i haveto go through the xp c12:20
cybernightlifeholycow:  Especially that!12:20
roodeeaha12:20
frank!repositories12:20
ubotuI heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos12:20
cybernightlifeand that so called "activation code".12:20
anders__have some got the new windows ??12:21
holycowactivation process i feel like i've been released for aushcwitz but now i have a leg tracking device12:21
frankroodee: check that link to activate universe12:21
jazzanovaholycow: i want to use a system font, that is 9x15 but with unicode. is there such ?12:21
dtorg21Anyone able to help with wireless?12:21
Kamzisalil: being n00b i am g ive me 2 secs to find usumthin12:21
brian__WGA?12:21
brian__lol12:21
jazzanovathe misc package has a font like that, with alias 9x1512:21
brian__yeah i ran it the minute it came out12:21
salilKamzi: thanks12:21
holycowjazzanova, i've never used unicode fonts, and don't even know where to download those ...12:21
brian__got nailed12:21
jazzanovathey should be part of the system12:21
anders__hehe12:21
ramblingturtlehaving a problem with installing gstreamer plugins it says unmet dependencies and when i try with -f that dosn't help any suggestions12:21
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jazzanovai just don't know how to reference them12:21
anders__whos is running?12:22
jazzanovaholycow: what is your locale ?12:22
mpmcwhere can I get a client like shareaza for linux?12:22
azikmpmc try amule12:22
holycowgood question, anyone know how you check the locale of the system?12:22
jazzanovaecho $LANG12:22
mpmcwith all networks12:22
Kamzisalil: giime a min i need to logout and back in again12:23
holycowen_CA.UTF-812:23
jowijazzanova, i think that charset is the command you are looking for btw. but i have not used it myself.12:23
holycowdanke jazzanova12:23
holycowjazzanova, love the nick btw :)12:23
salilKamzi: sure..12:23
jazzanova:)12:23
mpmclike Gnutella,emule,bittorrent...12:23
jazzanovaok, so you are on utf8 too12:23
holycowjazzanova, your nick sounds like a snooty inside joke by a jazz musician12:23
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rgouldIs it possible to hook up a PDF driver to the printer system?12:23
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rgouldso I can print to a PDF file, that is12:23
jazzanovai want to increase the font to a size a bitlarger than default one when one runs xterm. i use uxterm, because it has utf8 support.12:24
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cybernightlifergould:  You only need to configure Ghostscript to output to PDF.12:24
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azikrgould, print to ps, then, ps2pdf file.ps :)12:24
rgouldhmm12:24
ramblingturtlehaving a problem with installing gstreamer plugins it says unmet dependencies and when i try with -f that dosn't help any suggestions12:25
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azikcybernightlife, how you configure it?12:25
fabio#ubuntu-es12:25
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fabioservidor ubuntu spaol12:25
brian__ok my friend ordered me a sub from wegmans12:26
brian__anyway12:26
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cybernightlifeazik:  It is just a matter of redirecting output to device "pdfwrite".12:26
roodeewhat do i do after checking universe?12:26
cybernightlifeat the time you call Ghostscript directly.\12:26
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brian__chickenfinger BBQ/ and chickenfinger Buff style12:27
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brian__1/2 and 1/212:27
brian__good chit12:27
mpmcdoes anyone know any good p2p client!12:27
roodeeamule12:27
roodeebut i can make it work...12:27
mpmcwith the other networks12:27
mpmclike Gnutella12:27
roodeebut i cant make it work...12:27
mpmcetc12:27
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jasoncohenramblingturtle, what are the unmet dependencies? paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin12:28
brian__ok so listen I have cedega TGZ and cedega DEB which do i want for ubuntu12:28
jowirgould, easiest way is to install cups-pdf package12:28
sun_hi arecord and other sound recording progs dont pick up any sound; aumix has my mic vol up 100%, what shoudl i do?12:28
ramblingturtlejasconcohen: will do12:28
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mpmcP2P??12:29
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brian__HELLO???12:29
Kamzi333salil ?12:29
brian__I have cedega TGZ and cedega DEB which do i want for ubuntu12:29
sun_brian__ deb12:29
brian__sun_ thank you12:29
azikcybernightlife, is there any form to do it with cups?12:29
rgouldjowi, I just discovered that, thanks. I am trying to figure out how to make it work.12:29
brian__do i want to open it with archive manager12:30
ramblingturtlejasconcohen: post under name ramblingturtle12:30
brian__?12:30
sun_how do i get sound recording to work, mic is at 100% but no sound coming into arecord12:30
rgouldAh! I think I have it.12:30
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brian__or can i run from terminal12:30
jowibrian__, no. you install it with "dpkg -i cedega........deb" if it does not come with an installer12:30
jazzanovasun: make sure it is enabled (the mic)12:31
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Kamzi333Salil; are you there ?12:31
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jowirgould, congrats :-)12:31
jasoncohenramblingturtle, give me the url12:31
sun_jazzanova how do i check if its enabled?12:31
jazzanovain alsaconf12:31
jazzanovamake sure it doesn't say Off12:31
ramblingturtlejasoncohen: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/80712:31
brian__thanks, am i running that from root term or term?12:31
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brian__im such a newb'12:32
jowibrian__, root-term works fine. if you are running from a normal term you just put "sudo" in front of your commands12:32
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jasoncohenramblingturtle, and your /etc/apt/sources.list12:33
CapSoftlo folks12:33
CapSoftnoob question12:33
CapSofti have a win xp pro client in the network12:33
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CapSoftwith a ltp printer (brand: HP)12:33
CapSoftcan i print on that from ubuntu?12:33
cybernightlifeazik:  I know that can be done, I am researching this topic.  What I do know is that KDE does allow direct to PDF output, and that it does not use CUPS to accomplish this.12:33
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roodeehow do i install amule?12:34
cybernightlifeCapSoft:  Which model of HP printer are you using?12:34
jasoncohenramblingturtle, you need to have universe enabled12:34
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jasoncohenramblingturtle, though i don't see how you can see gstreamer0.8-plugins but not the other plugins in universe12:34
CapSoftdeskjet 940C if i remember correctly cybernightlife12:34
CapSoftroodee, i use mldonkey12:34
ramblingturtlejasoncohen: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/80812:34
cybernightlifeYou should be able to use that printer with Ubuntu.12:34
brian__its telling me i need superuser privledges12:35
roodeei can install that too... ?12:35
brian__privleges*12:35
MartenHbrian__: sudo ...12:35
roodeei CANT install that too... ?12:35
CapSoftcybernightlife, through lan?12:35
jowibrian__, sudo dpkg -i cedega.x.x.x.x.deb (then enter your password when asked)12:35
CapSoftwhile it is connected to windows?12:35
brian__thanks12:35
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azikcybernightlife thanks12:35
cybernightlifeCapSoft:  Absolutely.12:36
MartenHbrian__: any command needing extended privileges should be prefixed with sudo (superuser do)12:36
cybernightlifeazik:  You're welcome.12:36
roodeedo i have to install other packages to tun mldonkay12:36
brian__you guys are the chit!12:36
cybernightlifeCapSoft:  Simply configure CUPS to use Samba.12:36
jasoncohenramblingturtle, lol, according to this you have no main12:36
CapSoftcups should use samba?12:36
jasoncohenjust universe and multiverse12:36
salilKamzi: hey.. i installed it..12:36
MartenHbrian__: lol, bout as new as you :)12:36
CapSoft:S i am a noob...12:36
cybernightlifeand then to use the HPIJS driver.12:36
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salilKamzi: :D12:36
jowibrian__, so will you be with some practice man12:36
ramblingturtlejasoncohen: let me check that12:36
jeanluchey can some one help me play mp3s?12:37
CapSofthow can i configure cups?12:37
jeanlucthey don't work in ubuntu12:37
brian__Selecting previously deselected package cedega.12:37
brian__(Reading database ... 58106 files and directories currently installed.)12:37
brian__Unpacking cedega (from .../Desktop/cedega_4.4-1_i386.deb) ...12:37
brian__Setting up cedega (4.4-1) ...12:37
CapSoftjeanluc, sure... xmms?12:37
jeanlucya12:37
brian__then it just stops12:37
fabioespaol12:37
cybernightlifeUbuntu should have a utility to configure printers.12:37
ramblingturtlejasoncohen: let me post that again12:37
jeanluccapsoft I have xmms I don't think I have the codec though.12:37
fabiospanish ?12:37
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CapSoftit's default there if i remember correctly12:37
jazzanovawhat is scalable font ? is this fixed width ?12:38
jeanlucthe mp3 will play12:38
brian__hmm12:38
jeanlucbut no sound12:38
brian__im lost now12:38
cybernightlifeYes, you can also type in http://localhost:631/ to get to CUPS administration.12:38
brian__well i was lost12:38
brian__now im loster12:38
cybernightlifefrom any web browser.12:38
brian__:P12:38
salilKamzi: you there ..??12:38
mpmchow do I install java?12:38
goldfish!mounting12:38
ubotuWish i knew, goldfish12:38
goldfish!mount12:38
ubotuhmm... mount is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions12:38
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fabioaaaaaalguien me pesca ?12:39
brian__i wouldnt be using linux if i actually used words like "loster"12:39
azikcybernightlife, i find http://cip.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de/~vrbehr/cups-pdf/, something to try about it12:39
CapSoftcybernightlife, i clicked on system12:39
brian__but i do need halp12:39
CapSoftand then management12:39
fabiobuuuuu  alguien me ayuda12:39
CapSoftprinting12:39
cybernightlifeazik:  Thanks.12:39
CapSoftand then a new printer12:39
mpmc!search java12:39
ubotumpmc: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about12:39
CapSoftwith tab connection i did network printing12:39
mpmc!java12:39
azik apt-cache search cups-pdf12:39
azikcups-pdf - PDF Writer backend for CUPS12:39
ubotusomebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.12:39
concept10Anyone succesful with scaning in Ubuntu?  I have an HP OfficeJect 6110 All in one - it says its not detected12:39
azikhaha12:39
azikxD12:39
CapSoftbut what's wrong with windows printing?12:39
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salilKamzi: ??12:40
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brian__Selecting previously deselected package cedega.12:40
cybernightlifeconcept10:  Are you using the HPLIP or HPOJ drivers?12:40
brian__Unpacking cedega (from .../Desktop/cedega_4.4-1_i386.deb) ...12:40
aziktry it cybernightlife  ;)12:40
brian__(Reading database ... 58106 files and directories currently installed.)12:40
Spud_hi im havin a tough time installing my nvidia driver12:40
brian__Selecting previously deselected package cedega.12:40
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brian__then doesnt do anything else12:40
jowibrian__, installation should be complete. here is a howto you should read on how to install games and to run them: http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Cedega_4.2.1-1_howto12:40
Spud_it says i have to stop the x server and kill any opengl programs that are running12:41
procrastinatorDoes anyone in here have experiences with an Motorola Surfboard SB4100 under Ubuntu?12:41
admxHi, I'm think about buying a HP 2550L  Laser Printer do you think there will be any problem using it with Ubuntu 5.04?12:41
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admx12:41
CapSoftprocrastinator,12:41
CapSoftwhy?12:41
mpmc!java12:41
ubotujava is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.12:41
mpmcI cant access that page!12:42
jasoncohen!repositories12:42
ubotuI heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos12:42
jasoncohen!repos12:42
ubotuI guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:42
funkyHatprocrastinator, is that a ethernet/usb cable modem?12:42
procrastinatorCapSoft: Because my sister has signed with an ISP that wants her to use it12:42
jasoncohenhmm, what's the pastebin with the full repositories?12:42
CapSoftok but most of the time, procrastinator, you only have to fill in stuff12:42
funkyHatjasoncohen, you can add them by ticking boxes in synaptic12:42
funkyHattry it12:42
CapSoftlike macaddress12:42
CapSoftor hostname12:43
procrastinatorCapSoft: And tomorrow I'm going to her to set up her new GNU/Linux box12:43
procrastinatorfunkyHat: yes12:43
Spud_anyone able to help me install an nvidia driver?12:43
jasoncohenfunkyHat, i know, i've never liked the synaptic method. i'm asking for other users12:43
procrastinatorCapSoft: Ok, could you be a bit more specific?12:43
CapSoftwell what provider is it?12:43
funkyHatprocrastinator, i have one (or similar surfboard). never had any issues, using the ethernet only12:44
CapSoftmost of the time they provide an install document for windows with it12:44
procrastinatorCapsoft: Cause as soon as I get to her place, there's no internet before I've set up the modem ;)12:44
CapSoftyou can follow the same steps, only act a bit diferent12:44
thechitowncubsprocrastinator: i have that modem12:44
funkyHatprocrastinator, plug the modem into the ethernet, it works12:44
CapSoftindeed12:44
CapSoftmost of the time it does12:44
thechitowncubsthe USB is a waste12:44
procrastinatorCapSoft: Okay...12:44
Spud_allright ill check back later12:44
CapSofti only had to put in a hostname12:44
CapSoftif i put in a hostname my provider gave me.. i get an ip from dhcp autmatically12:45
procrastinatorOh, I didn't realize that it was possible to avoid the USB...12:45
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cybernightlifeI better get going myself.  Check in later.12:45
puterfixerUSB sucks, basically your operating system will create a virtual network interface in software instead of using a hardware network card, and that software emulation eats up resources and is not too stable/mature either12:45
funkyHatand i couldn't get that to work either12:46
funkyHati tried when i was trying to set up internet connection sharing12:46
funkyHati gave up and got a router instead :P12:46
puterfixersmart thinking :)12:46
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procrastinatorHow about port forwarding on it? How's that?12:47
procrastinatorOr is the no protection in it whatsoever, before I buy a router for her?12:48
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salilKamzi: you there.?12:49
funkyHatprocrastinator, there is no protection, your box will be directly connected to the internet12:49
puterfixerif it's a simple modem, then it's just like a media convertor, doesn't have any routing features hence no forwarding or firewall-like protection12:49
procrastinatorfunkyHat: Ok.12:49
brian__can someone tell me why im getting this message?12:50
brian__cannot find '/mnt/cdrom0/setup.exe'12:50
brian__or when i try cannot find '/mnt/cdrom/setup.exe'12:50
nevinbrian__: what are you doing to get the message?12:50
brian__and change cdrom to cdrom012:50
procrastinatorputerfixer: Well, vendors have a tendency to put their crappy security soft/hardware all over products12:50
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procrastinator;)12:50
brian__tryin to use cedega to install unreal12:50
puterfixerI know :(12:51
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Randall64ah, crap12:51
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nevinbrian__: cedega probably thinks the cdrom drive is mounted under /mnt, but under ubuntu, its under /media12:51
nevinbrian__: you're going to need to reconfigure cedega to reflect this12:52
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brian__lol12:52
brian__thats sounds easy12:52
CapSoftits /cdrom12:52
brian__which is it?12:52
procrastinatorBut thank you all, you put a rest on all my worries - at first I thought it was only USB =)12:52
CapSoftwhat i just said12:52
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CapSoftuhm one moment12:53
nevin /cdrom is a link to /media/cdrom12:53
CapSoftits indeed /media/cdrom0 or cdrom112:53
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esachow do i enable ssh access to my system ?12:54
MartenHwhere do I find gnome themes?12:54
esacwww.gnome-look.org ?12:54
CapSoftdo /etc/init.rd/sshd start12:55
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nevinesac: sudo apt-get install openssh-server12:55
cato_something is kind of weird with my xorg.conf .. It seems it wont use the ATI OpenGL library.. my config is posted here: http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=20267#20267      It would be awesome if anyone of you could overlook it and tell me if anything is wrong.. :\ (my system still uses the damn MesaGL library)12:55
danielrrhi all12:55
danielrrhaving no luck installing Ubuntu12:55
MartenHesac: ty12:55
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brian__/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/bin/wine: cannot find '/mnt/media/cdrom/setup.exe'12:56
ColonelKernelrofl still banned for nothing in #fedora - good thing too, otherwise i never would have found ubuntu12:56
nevinbrian__: you need to get rid or the /mnt part of the path12:56
funkyHatbrian__, it's /media/cdrom012:56
funkyHatno /mnt12:56
nevinNO, media12:56
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salilnevin: i did manage to install the bluetooth software.. but.. the phone manager asks for a passcode.. what do i give there... any ideas..??12:57
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nevindanielrr: what's causing your troubles12:57
nevinsalil: did you set any such passcode in your phone?  I assume you're using this to interface with your mobile12:58
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nevinsalil: no to which part? passcode, or for your mobile?12:59
brian__OMG IM INSTALLING UREAL TOURNAMENT12:59
salilnevin: i want to pair my phone with the computer12:59
brian__Ive got wood12:59
salilnevin: no i didn't set passcode12:59
cato_Im sorry if im being unpolite by asking again, but did anyone check out my xorg.conf posted in the transgaming forum?12:59
apokryphoscato_: what's the problem?12:59
nevinsalil: snoop around your phone's bluetooth settings for this to see if there's a passcode to be set12:59
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brian__now before i go and mess everything up01:00
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brian__should i just let it install naturally?01:00
brian__im staring at the unreal setup window01:00
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salilnevin: the thing is.. both the pc and the phone ask for the passcode.. and you have to give the same passcode at both the places.. but here..the pc didn't ask for passcode.. only the phone did01:00
cato_apokryphos, im having trouble with my ati drivers and opengl library.. it seems it always loads the mesagl library, i've followed the steps for the newest drivers from ati.. but to no avail, im wondering if my xorg.conf is bad or something01:00
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danielrrNeven well I am on my fouth try installing and it hats in the same placehere is the error I get:Setting up gstreamer0.8-flac/var/lib/dpkg/info/gstreamer0.8-flac.postinst: line 8: 15917 Segmentation fault gst-register-0.8 --gst-debug-level=0 >/dev/null01:00
cato_apokryphos, my config is posted here: http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=20267#2026701:01
DukGalNamusomeone please type my nick01:01
apokryphoscato_: why not use Ubuntu's drivers?01:01
cato_apokryphos, they wont allow me to play games with cedega01:01
nevindanielrr: I got that error with a bad disk01:01
brian__OK please listen01:01
cato_apokryphos, and i'm told they are like 4 releases old01:01
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DukGalNamuanyone?01:01
DukGalNamuplease?01:01
brian__it is giving me a path of C:/unrealtournament01:02
danielrrwell i am on my second (pressed copy)01:02
nevinDukGalNamu?01:02
salilDukGalNamu: what's wrong?01:02
brian__should I leave that?01:02
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apokryphoscato_: so old? I wouldn't know -- I use AVI. Though the problem isn't likely with your xorg.conf, but rather with the installation of the driver01:02
DukGalNamuhmm01:02
cato_apokryphos, i've also tried usinig the "new installer" thingie, but that didnt work either.. it always uses the damn MesaGL library01:02
nevindnaiel: yes01:02
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DukGalNamunevin: it was supposed to play a song when you did that01:02
nevinsalil: I'm assuming you have set a passcode previously?01:02
wolarsenhi ppl. i ve got very strange problem. i have download ubuntu iso, burn it to cd-r, but i cant boot! ( i have lost 2 cdr :-\ )01:02
isaiis there a cmd line md5 app to generate off string?01:02
cato_apokryphos, did you look at it? does it look ok? right modules loaded and so on?01:02
brian__use nero01:02
brian__burn image01:02
salilnevin: i used to pair it in windows01:02
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brian__works better01:02
MartenHI've downloaded an icon set... where does it go?01:02
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wolarsenyes. i used nero ...01:02
danielrrneven should i tryanother diek?01:03
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salilnevin: but the phone is now formatted.. and all the old settings are gone..01:03
nevinsalil: does anything work if you enter it?01:03
timbabweHaving some issues with Samba01:03
cato_apokryphos, i used these steps for the driver: http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=19795#1979501:03
holycowwolarsen, did you burn an image? or burn the files to a data disk?01:03
salilnevin: nothing works..01:03
MartenHwolarsen: did you use burn inage or just burned the file?01:03
apokryphoscato_: shoudl you really have "fglrx" for Driver, under Device?01:03
nevindaniel: yeah, try reburning, or checking the md5 sum01:03
timis there a way via the command line to change the gtk theme in ubuntu?01:03
cato_apokryphos, yeah, i ran fglrxconfig and it set that there so.. im guessing its right01:03
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apokryphoscato_: no, I think that part is right; fglrx for ati01:04
salilnevin: forget it... thanks anyway... i'll try later.. its pretty late here... gotta sleep01:04
nevinsalil: anytime, np01:04
apokryphoscato_: using alien can be dodgy sometimes though; always better to compile, if you can, really.01:04
wolarsenMartenH - it s not a cd containing 1 file. it contain many files ... but i cant boot ( please key to rebbot screen & nothinng )01:04
puffHow hard is it to try an alternative window manager?  How easy is it to back out and go back to the default?01:04
cato_apokryphos, do you know of the newest driver wich is compileable then?01:04
apokryphoscato_: ah, there's a Universal installer -- use that.01:05
MartenHwolarsen: have you configured your comp to boot on the CD prior to HD?01:05
timbabweSo, does anyone know why all of the sudden my Ubuntu laptop would not be able to copy files to my Windows 2000 Share that was working a few weeks ago?01:05
nevinpuff: if you're using kdm or gdm to log in, its dead easy01:05
DukGalNamunevin: ok try again01:05
cato_apokryphos, i tried that one.. same thing happened. It wont overwrite the standard glib.so or whatever01:05
nevinDukGalName01:05
DukGalNamuumm01:05
nevinDukGalNamu01:05
procrastinatorpuff: Very easy. You can normally choose window manger at the login screen.01:05
DukGalNamuhmm01:05
danielrrNEVEN I got the cd's from ubuntu.com01:05
nevinyeah, bad typist01:05
DukGalNamustill didn't work01:05
apokryphoscato_: which step is this in, just the installation?01:05
timbabweI keep getting an error saying "invalid parameters"01:05
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nevindaniel: hrm... scratched? (weak, but maybe...)01:06
wolarsenMartenH- yes. i have 2 CD drive  & i have truing both.01:06
danielrr*n00..01:06
cato_apokryphos, well.. if you see the steps i used.. you notice i had to use dpkg -i --force-overwrite... and the Universal installer doesnt do that.. or so i think, it still uses the MesaGL library when im done installing01:06
danielrrneven disks are clean01:07
puffprocrastinator: Ah, so a) is there a window manager cooler looking than enlightenment, and b) is enlightenment easy enough to try out?01:07
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esachow do i install bootp and tftp ?01:07
puffLast time I asked a question along the lines of "how painful is XYZZY" the response was "have you ever brokena fingeR?"01:07
brian__how do run unreal once cedega is done installing?01:07
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cato_apokryphos, maybe it all comes down to my fglrxconfig .. im not sure im configuring it right :\ cause when i do, i get some error dialogues when i log on after reboot01:07
apokryphoscato_: hm, I don't know then. They're not perfect instructions; tried posting on the ubuforum?01:07
procrastinatorpuff: Can't say, haven't tried enlightenment. I can recommend Fluxbox or Openbox though.01:08
nevindaniel: I'm sorry, I can't think of anything other than dl'ing an image and burning it01:08
procrastinatorpuff: Haha ;)01:08
nevindaniel: do you have more disks that you ordered?01:08
cato_apokryphos, i've looked on the forums, but anyone says they get it going after running the universal installer and doing fglrxconfig.. so, maybe im just bad at configuring my xorg.conf.. :\01:08
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cato_anyone = everyone01:09
procrastinatorpuff: Was that perhaps Rosegarden?01:09
danielrrNeven I am now trying third disk that I ordered01:09
timbabweAny samba experts?01:09
apokryphoscato_: the steps there don't even mention you manually configuring xorg.conf do they?01:09
cato_apokryphos, wich steps?01:09
apokryphoscato_: the ones you linked01:10
puffprocrastinator: fluxbox, openbox, why?01:10
MartenHwhere do I place menu addon files?01:10
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puffprocrastinator: I don't remember who it was...01:10
cato_apokryphos, no.. it just tells me to run fgrlxconfig01:10
apokryphoscato_: so how exactly would you muck up your xorg.conf? :)01:11
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cato_apokryphos, through fglrxconfig.. :p not choosing the right modes etc..01:11
Slipaway172i just wanted to see if something works01:11
danielrrthanks neven for trying to help.01:11
procrastinatorpuff: Well, Fluxbox is full of nice features, but their theme files are fucked up - doesn't matter if you're not going to write the, thought01:11
procrastinatorthough even01:11
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apokryphoscato_: oh. Really don't know what it's like (as I said), so wouldn't be familiar with those particular steps01:12
procrastinatorpuff: Openbox has less features, but is more "clean"01:12
danielrrbe back  latter got called for dinner01:12
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esacwhat do i install for bootp and tftp ?01:12
nevinesac: are you trying to set up thin terminals?01:12
cato_apokryphos, well ok, then.. Thanks anyways though.. :) ill read some more01:12
esacnevin: pxe boot01:12
danielrr?01:13
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esacso probably the same thing01:13
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procrastinatorpuff: And by the way, check out my screenshot: http://linuxin.dk/eyecandy/1457_3.jpg ;)01:13
nevinesac: you want the daemons?01:13
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esacnod01:13
procrastinatorpuff: Don't mind the Photoshop icon, it's an old screenshots01:13
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procrastinatorwithout the s01:14
nevinesac: sudo apt-get install tfpd bootp01:14
nevinwhoops01:14
CapSoftprocrastinator, use superkaramba??01:14
nevintftpd01:14
procrastinatorCapSoft: No, gDesklets01:14
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CapSoftdoes liquidweather work on that too?01:14
CapSoftand what window manager?01:15
apokryphosCapSoft: of course01:15
procrastinatorCapSoft: Yes, I didn't know it worked on superkaramba too?01:15
procrastinatorCapSoft: Fluxbox01:15
CapSoftyes01:15
CapSoftis that ubuntu?01:15
CapSoftnice theme for fluxbox01:15
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DekaPink--;01:16
DekaPinkLimewire doesn't seem to close when I close it... I have to xkill it. :301:16
procrastinatorNo, that's actually Fedora, but I use the same config for both distros01:16
procrastinatorSo it might aswell have been01:16
CapSoftkewl01:16
CapSoftand what is that bar on top?01:16
desrtwhat is the best way to setup my ubuntu box for ipmasq?01:16
CapSoftwhat desklet is it?01:16
procrastinatorStarterBar01:16
CapSoftthanks01:17
desrtwithout using firestarter01:17
cato_is this a bad thing? : Warning: could not find /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/.libfglrx_ip.a.GCC3.c md for /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/libfglrx_ip.a.GCC301:17
cato_when compiling the fglrx modules..01:17
procrastinatorCapSoft: And the thingy in the top right corner is Torsmo - which i can strongly recommend01:18
CapSoftprocrastinator, i allready found a nice tutor for myself: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=60350 so i won't be bored tomorrow01:18
CapSoftthanks01:18
puffprocrastinator: Okay, now that's just sick...01:18
puffAnd why is he playing a recorder?01:18
puffWith hooves...01:18
CapSofttorsmo is no desklet right?01:18
procrastinatorCapSoft: Nice.01:18
procrastinatorCapSoft: Nope. http://torsmo.sf.net01:18
esaci cant find bootp or tfpd or tftpd or similar with apt-get install01:19
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procrastinatorpuff: It's beautiful, isn't it?01:19
puffThat's one word for it...01:20
cafuego!find tftpd01:20
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'tftpd' (3 shown): atftpd ;; tftpd ;; tftpd-hpa.01:20
puffVery... red.01:20
nevinesac: try searching for similar packages01:20
cafuego!info tftpd01:20
ubotutftpd: (Internet trivial file transfer protocol server.), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.17-11 (hoary), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 80 kB01:20
cafuegoAdd universe to yuor sources.list01:21
nevinesac: have you enabled the universe rep?01:21
puffAnyway, my basic intent is to experiment with a look & feel that will a) make th emac users drool, b) still be very usable, c) go well with the thinkpad it's installed on.01:21
procrastinatorpuff: You like green better? http://linuxin.dk/eyecandy/1457_2.jpg01:21
procrastinatorThat's an old config01:21
esacjust did that, thanks01:21
CapSoftprocrastinator, how do i configure torsmo?01:21
procrastinatorWallpaper and theme by Klowner, he has some nice ones: http://dugnet.com/klown/wallpaper/01:22
procrastinatorCapSoft: In ~/.torsmorc01:22
esacgot them, thanks01:22
black-whisphmm what ports does bittorrent use?01:22
puffOuch.01:23
procrastinatorCapSoft: It's pretty simple, the layout setup is at the bottom01:23
puffHm.01:23
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puffI'm having a creative momment... either that or it's gas.01:23
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puffA window manager that uses your PC's webcam to assess your clothing's color scheme and select a theme to match, dynamically.01:24
procrastinatorpuff: Hurry, launch Gimp. Or open a window.01:24
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procrastinatorpuff: I think it's gas.01:24
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cafuegowhy can't people do 2048x1600 wallpapers *grrr*01:25
HrdwrBoBhaha01:26
puterfixerdamn, and I thought my 1680x1050 resolution on this 20", 16:10 tft was wild01:26
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procrastinatorcafuego: Nah-nah-nah-nah-naaaah-nah, you're noot normal.01:26
HrdwrBoBwhy can't people scale backgrounds?01:26
CapSoftprocrastinator, there is no .torsmo file in my home dir01:26
HrdwrBoBputerfixer: heh, quite a few people now have the 1920x1200 dell 24"01:26
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cafuegoprocrastinator: .. and that's without xinerama, too.01:27
procrastinatorCapSoft: You have to create it yourself. I think there's an example file in the dir.01:27
black-whispwhats a good bittorrent client where you can edit the ports it uses?01:27
CapSoftin what dir?01:27
procrastinatorCapSoft: Sorry, I'm tired. The package.01:27
CapSoftsorry but i am a noob01:28
CapSoftwhere can i find the package after i did apt-get install torsmo01:28
eivindI need a program to remotely administrate a computer. both computers run linux. what application do you prefer?01:28
CapSoftputty for windows01:28
nevineivind: ssh01:28
CapSoftterminal for linux ssh01:28
procrastinatorblack-whisp: You can do that in almost any client. I recommend the original one.01:28
procrastinatornevin: Don't hush him, he can ask a question!01:29
procrastinator:p01:29
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eivindthanks01:30
procrastinatorCapSoft: Oh, right. I didn't know there were packages. I could send you my config?01:30
CapSoftuhm...01:30
CapSoftwell or paste it somewhere01:30
CapSoftlol01:30
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puffOkay, I'm in openbox now, don't see much different, guess I need to find & download a theme and try it.01:31
CapSoftthough with apt-get it should give me an example01:31
puffThough I miss the metacity version of alt-tab :-(01:31
procrastinatorCapSoft: Yeah, it's probably somewhere too01:32
puffGiven that I spend the vast majority of my time in:  a) emacs, b) ssh session to emacs running elsewhere, c) shell where I use javac and cygwin, d) firefox.01:32
procrastinator/usr/share/doc/torsmo/examples/torsmorc.sample.gz01:32
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holycowyou know, i really haveto say yet again, that the places menu in gnome 2.10 is a stupendous idea, as well as being able to mount server points like ftp, ssh, etc, i mean that is beyond cool01:33
puffOpinions about enlightenment?01:33
holycowif one could tie that into an ldap backend and create these for users via policies, wow that would be amazing01:33
CapSoftthanks procrastinator01:34
anomalye17 looks crispy.01:34
holycowindeedy01:34
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CapSoftthough it sometimes disappear when i click on it...01:34
holycowlove the 'any media as background' bit01:34
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levanderThere is a way to benchmark access to a samba share?01:34
decafe17 can be used by my grandchildren. (I'm not married yet)01:34
AMDXPlol Decaf01:35
procrastinatorCapSoft: In Gnome?01:35
CapSoftyes01:35
CapSoftin gnome01:35
HrdwrBoBlevander: probably you could synthesize your own benchmark01:35
HrdwrBoBspecific to your network and needs01:35
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rob__hi01:35
procrastinatorCapSoft: Yeah, nautilus can't really figure out that it should stay below it01:35
rob__does anyone know how to reset webmin once it's denied access to an IP ?01:35
CapSoftlol so it's just a bug which can't be fixed?01:36
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nevinlevander: if you have konqueror, you could try moving files into the share... the "file moving" window shows a file move speed01:36
procrastinatorI am in lack of a screen for my stationary computer01:36
HrdwrBoBholycow: yes, gnome needs more of that sort of 'policy' thing01:36
HrdwrBoBnevin: that's not a benchmark.01:36
nevinobioulsy01:36
nevinsp01:36
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procrastinatorSo right now I'm accesing it only through VNC from my laptop.01:36
nevinbut it show's some sort of measure01:36
nevinman my spelling sucks01:37
HrdwrBoBshows01:37
CapSoftthanks procrastinator for your help!01:37
rob__levander, to test hard disc speed use hdparm -t /dev/hd....01:37
CapSofti am goning to bed01:37
procrastinatorCapSoft: Any time!01:38
CapSoftsince it is 1:39 here01:38
CapSoftlater folks01:38
anomalyI have used a number of linux distros, as well as the *bsds, but heard of ubuntu earlier today. looks well so far.01:38
carine_hi everyone! does anybody know how to install icecast on ubuntu. or to make GnuMP3d on ubuntu (i'm a linux newbie)01:38
HrdwrBoBrob__: doesn't work on remote shares01:38
procrastinatorCapSoft: Here too.01:38
rob__HrdwrBoB, ahh, I didn't get that bit01:38
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HrdwrBoBanomaly: yeah it Works :)01:39
liz4rdok i installed a game called flightgear, but running the command flightgear doesnt work, how do i search for things? (in xfce) or in a term01:39
nevincarine_: sudo apt-get install gnump3d01:39
procrastinatoranomaly: You'll love it.01:39
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HrdwrBoBcarine_: synaptic should have icecast etc01:39
nevinliz4rd: whereis flightgear01:39
rob__liz4rd, check in synaptic what files it installed01:39
liz4rd$ whereis flightgear01:39
carine_hmm i installed both but now i can't find them in the menu :-/01:39
liz4rdflightgear:01:39
rob__liz4rd, as I remember the executable is called "fg"01:40
carine_im a complete newbie. i dont know if i missed a step and which one? i did everything from synaptic01:40
anomalywell, how could you not like something called "hoaryhedgehog" ? heh01:40
HrdwrBoBliz4rd: dpkg -L flightgear will list the files in the package01:40
rob__HrdwrBoB, that's the one :)01:40
procrastinatorliz4rd: dpkg -L flightgear | grep bin01:40
anomalydpkg? so it uses the apt/dpkg system, eh? interesting.01:40
procrastinatoranomaly: It's very much Debian based.01:40
HrdwrBoBanomaly: yes, it's like debian, only more up to date and a lot shinier01:40
puffHm, all the enlightenment stuff is for warty, not hoary.01:41
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MrGardenHoseMancan anyone recomend me a good xchat/xmms script?01:41
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puffHow hard is it, technically, to do a theme?  i have some designer friends...01:41
SismaUmmm01:41
HrdwrBoBpuff: not very01:41
SismaRe to all01:41
admxUbuntu rocks01:41
ed1tamen01:41
procrastinatorpuff: You can basically figure it out by just looking at another theme01:41
sandispuff: go to art.gnome.org - they have some tutorials01:42
SismaHELP..... for use the normal su command ???01:42
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levanderrob__: a samba share is across the network, it's not attached by and IDE bus, can't use hdparm01:42
SismaSorry form my english01:42
Sisma:D01:42
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Sisma*for01:42
levandernevin: don't use kde, there's another (maybe command line??) utility that will show me how fast a file is copying?01:42
procrastinatorSisma: In Ubuntu, you use sudo, which you can run a single command with01:42
SismaAnd for SU ?01:43
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cato_I think i made a breakthrough on my understanding whats wrong with my fglrx.. >_< can anyone check this out? : http://pastebin.com/324244       (its from my /var/log/Xorg.0.log)01:43
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SismaIs possible remove de sudo system?01:43
procrastinatorSisma: For example, try sudo ls /root01:43
SismaYes01:43
nevinbad idea01:43
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procrastinatorSisma: Yes, but give it a chance first01:43
SismaBat for CPAN installer the sudo method don't is good01:43
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procrastinatorCPAN?01:44
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luke2I haven't used Linux for almost a year. Getting back into it. Need some help...01:44
Sisma*But01:44
SismaYes....PERL01:44
luke2What is the default su password for Ubuntu?01:44
nevinsisma: you can use sudo su - to get a root login01:44
nevinluke2: there is none01:44
SismaThe same of the your account01:44
goldfishluke2: ubuntu uses sudo, the sudo pass is the pass for the account you activated during install.01:44
procrastinatorSisma: You can just install it through apt?01:44
SismaHummmm01:45
nevinluke2: only the first user created may use sudo by default01:45
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Flying_Eaglehi01:45
cafuegoluke2: Any other users you want to give sudo access to should be adeed to the `admin' group.01:45
procrastinatorhi, Flying_Eagle01:45
nevinluke2: its the user who is logged in who's password it is01:45
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SismaIs one pack for xmms01:45
SismaBUNDLE::XMMS01:45
luke2Okay, give me a second....01:45
admxAnyone know if the next version of Ubuntu will use the Re01:45
luke2Thanks for the info people.01:45
procrastinatorSisma: Huh?01:46
cafuegoSisma: If you need CPAN thingies, install dh-make-perl and use that.01:46
SismaYes,,,... I have download one script in perl for xchat01:46
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Razor-Xyay, finals are finished!01:46
Razor-Xtime to try out zsh ;)01:46
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Razor-Xbrb01:46
cafuegoBut _do not_ use x-chat/xmms scripts on #ubuntu.01:46
brian__ok so ive installed unreal tournament through cedega and it runs with no anomolies01:46
brian__artifacts etc01:47
brian__but01:47
luke2nevin: I'm under the first (and only) account. So basically, I already have su access?01:47
brian__i am getting 3 frames a second01:47
nevinluke2: sudo access01:47
sandiswhere can i find developers channel?01:47
admxAnyone know if the next version of Ubuntu will use the Reiser file system?01:47
cafuegobrian__: That sounds about right01:47
nevinluke2: yeah, you have sudo access01:47
frank234does anyone know a package i could use to convert from one video format to another, assuming i have the encoder libraries for both formats?01:47
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luke2nevin: Okay. Thanks. I've never heard of sudo before. New to me.01:47
cafuegoadmx: It will never use reiserfs by default. Ever. You can however choose to use it already.01:47
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brian__well im curious as to how i can get better frame rates01:48
cafuegofrank234: 'transcode'01:48
luke2Okay. I'm out. Thanks for the help everyone.01:48
procrastinatorMy "C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check"01:48
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cafuegoprocrastinator: install build-essential01:48
Hawk_aulukes: check out http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root01:48
procrastinatorIn other words, my computer just told me it's insane01:48
DukGalNamunevin: ok try again01:48
luke2Okay.01:48
nevinDukGalNamu01:48
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frank234cafuego: thanks01:48
SismaGood support in this channel01:48
nevinanything?01:48
Sisma:D01:48
procrastinatorcafuego: Thanks.01:48
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cafuegoprocrastinator: No, just the C++ compiler is insane. Which is a VERY sane conclusion to reach ;-)01:48
DukGalNamu:P01:49
DukGalNamunevin: it works now01:49
brian__Seveas01:49
philstaris ubuntu artwork under the gpl?01:49
cafuegoDukGalNamu: Thanks, don't.01:49
luke2Hawk_au: Ah thanks. This should do.01:49
procrastinator=)01:49
nevinDuk: awesome01:49
admxBut will need to format harddrive to use it or can ext3 be converted to Reiser?01:49
Hawk_auluke2: got me when i first started too01:49
DukGalNamucafuego: you restarted it01:49
procrastinatorphilstar: How could you think otherwise? ;)01:49
cafuegoadmx: No, it needs to be formatted as reiser from scratch.01:49
brian__anyone know how i can get better frame rates01:49
brian__?01:49
cafuegoadmx: Any reason you think reiser is a better idea than ext3?01:49
philstarprocrastinator: cause someone else said so...01:49
brian__i mean the colors are all correct01:49
admxI thought so, thanks01:50
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brian__and it looks fine01:50
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brian__but i am getting unbearable framrates01:50
nevincafuego: finer permissions control01:50
admxwell I  heard it is more secure and fester.01:50
frank234whats the difference between reiser4 and the other reiser fs?01:50
cafuegonevin: ext3 also does acl and extended attributes01:50
brian__nevin any ideas?01:50
sandisbrian__: did you tried to configure X?01:50
philstarprocrastinator: plus, there's a big thing about trademarks on the ubuntu website01:50
nevincafuego: my bad.. I'm out of date01:50
cafuegofrank234: reiser4 *will* break and lose your data, reiser3 *might*01:50
guizzzmohi01:51
philstarbut thanks01:51
nevinbrian__: sorry, I don't game, so I'm pretty useless for gfx performance01:51
brian__well through running what command?01:51
Will_I keep all my important data under my matress01:51
guizzzmoi have problems with hotplug, i cannot enter ubuntu cause the computer freezes while i get the message "starting hotplug subsystem"01:51
funkyHathahahaha01:51
cafuegobrian__: The only eay you're going to get decetn framerates is by using a Linux native UT application.01:52
brian__i am using cedega01:52
frank234glxgears !01:52
procrastinatorphilstar: Oh. I'm quite sure it's free (as in freedom), and I would presume it's GPL, too. And trademarks would have nothing to do with that.01:52
nevinWill_: we all know that under the pillow is much safer01:52
cafuegobrian__: Yes, hence the 3fps.01:52
brian__i ran glx gears01:52
brian__it looked good01:52
admxAt least that is the info that I read on www.namesys.com about Reiser01:52
Will_nevin: Are you hitting on me?01:52
brian__but was only gettin 100 fps01:52
brian__roughly01:52
Will_Because frankly, I'm a little flattered. But not interested01:52
cafuegoadmx: Yeah, microsoft way the same thing about windows on microsoft.com ;-)01:52
frank234brian__: what graphics card are you using?01:52
cafuegoadmx: Do you believe them? ;-)01:52
sandisbrian__: and what game?01:53
cafuegoadmx: If you want the data to be secure, use ext2 or ext3. If you have backups and want to experiment a bit, go reiser.01:53
brian__unreal tournament01:53
brian__i am really proud of myslef to get it to run thus far01:54
brian__and is enough incentive for me to keep pluggin away01:54
admxNo, I have never trusted Microsoft, However I have found Linux to be more OPEN about things :)01:54
brian__because i feel the rewards of linux will someday far outweigh the current inconvieniences01:54
nevinbrian__: you have now joined the clb of linux addicts01:54
SismaHelp :D01:54
nevin*club01:54
cafuegoadmx: To put it in perspective, ext2 and ext3 have *never* destroyed any of my data. Reiser3 has once (on a 2.2. kernel) and reiser4 has twice, as has XFS.01:54
brian__lol01:54
brian__seriously01:55
frank234has anyone ever made a file system that doesnt have some address table, sort of like how one would go about nesting xml tags?01:55
SismaDon't install the BUNDLE::XMMS01:55
Sismahttp://atheism-v2.sourceforge.net/01:55
brian__i cant even carry on a convo with other people01:55
frank234im sure it would suck, just curious01:55
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admxwow.01:55
brian__i ate my dinner watching this irc chan01:55
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cafuegofrank234: Like say mysqlfs?01:55
guizzzmoplease, anybody knows how to fix a problem with hotplug when booting?01:55
brian__i want to learn as much as i can01:55
sandisbrian__: ati or nvidia?01:55
cato_http://pastebin.com/324244   , Anyone know what this means? :\01:55
brian__is ati rs20001:55
brian__xorg see it and gives me drivers to some degree01:56
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brian__mobility01:56
brian__on the radeon chip01:56
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brian__i dont even care if its the only game i can get running01:56
HrdwrBoBcato_: it means exactly what it says it mens01:56
cafuegobrian__: At best you're going to be able to lift that to say 5 or 6 fps using Cedega. it's not worth the bother. Get UT for Linux and revel in the sudden speed.01:56
procrastinatorby the way, could anyone recommend a newbie-friendly alternative to Rhythmbox? I've never really gotten XMMS to work on Ubuntu...01:56
HrdwrBoBcato_: how did you install the ati driver01:56
brian__ubuntu will never leave this pc01:56
frank234cafuego: well, okay then :) never thought of it that way01:57
cafuegoprocrastinator: beep-media-player01:57
HrdwrBoBcato_: you should follow http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto01:57
procrastinator(personally, I just use mplayer)01:57
brian__are you serious?01:57
cato_HrdwrBoB, like the guide at Ubuntuforum says..01:57
cafuegobrian__: Yes.01:57
HrdwrBoBprocrastinator: er.. ryhthmbox :)01:57
cato_HrdwrBoB, those are like 4 releases old01:57
frank234procrastinator: i dont know about you but dont count on xmms to work01:57
cato_HrdwrBoB, and it wont let me play games with cedega01:57
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brian__so is it going to be like this in pretty much all of their supported games?01:57
procrastinatorcafuego: Thanks. Seems nice.01:57
cafuegobrian__: Keep in mind you're running WIDNOWS software on LINUX. it's a wonder it runs _at_ _all_ ;-)01:57
SprflyZapphey anyone know how to install tarball files plz help me Aim Me: SprflyZapp01:57
Andareschecking for glMatrixMode in -lGL... no01:57
Andaresconfigure: error: Missing GL01:57
brian__true true01:57
HrdwrBoBcato_: ok, well, the kernel version and the X driver version don't match01:57
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AndaresWhat package do I need to install to get this to configure?01:58
sandisbrian__: you should get nvidia card01:58
Razor-Xhmmm, how should I change my default shell?01:58
ajmitchcafuego: interesting, I've had fairly reasonable framerates with a number of games & wine01:58
brian__i find this all so damn compelling01:58
Razor-XI already used chsh -s /bin/zsh01:58
cafuegobrian__: Well, in fps games that need fast hardware, sure. Other stuff (like say SimCity) works fine and at decent speeds.01:58
cato_HrdwrBoB, how do i check my kernel version?01:58
brian__ouch01:58
brian__sandis that hurts01:58
Andares>.<01:58
cafuegobrian__: ... unless you run a Linux native application.01:58
Razor-Xbut that seems to do nothing, and I can't find anything in my Terminal Emulator settings that change the default shell01:58
nevinRazor-X: man chsh01:58
AndaresAnyone got a clue?01:58
Razor-Xnevin: already checked it01:58
guizzzmook, bye01:58
Razor-Xit's a pretty short man page01:58
Razor-Xchsh -s login-shell user01:58
SismaFor me null?01:59
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Razor-Xif invoked without superuser privileges it changes your current shell01:59
HrdwrBoBcato_: it's not the kernel version it's the version of the kernel module01:59
r0bbygrub.conf and menu.lst are the same file correct?01:59
Razor-Xas simple as that01:59
brian__so is there a web resource that will list these linux apps converts01:59
HrdwrBoBcato_: if you haven't rebooted, do so01:59
cafuegobrian__: Just check that UT is set to use *hardware* 3d01:59
apokryphosr0bby: there is no grub.conf in Ubuntu, is there? But yes.01:59
SismaI have one problem to integrate xmms in xchat01:59
HrdwrBoBcato_: it may still haev the old driver loaded01:59
MrGardenHoseMananyone have xmms-tool.1.1.tar.gz ?01:59
Razor-Xso, how should I change my shell?01:59
sandisbrian__: google is your friend01:59
r0bbythere is01:59
cato_HrdwrBoB, and how can i fix that? And yeah, i have rebooted several times01:59
SismaOne script for me?01:59
apokryphosr0bby: ah, so I see.01:59
rob__brian__, if you want to play games under linux, sell your ATI card and buy and Nvidia one01:59
brian__ok i dont want to ask how how how how01:59
r0bbyso grub.cong and menu.lst are the same01:59
SismaPlease :D01:59
brian__rob01:59
nevinRazor-X: grep YOURUSENAME /etc/passwd01:59
r0bby:)01:59
rob__brian__, I'm a games developer, I know...01:59
cafuegobrian__: in the game options menu, it should tell you.02:00
ed1tis there any player which can play .asx format?02:00
HrdwrBoBcato_: the easiest way to fix it is to overwrite both locations again02:00
HrdwrBoBessentially, reinstall the driver02:00
r0bby:D02:00
SprflyZappcan anyone help with installing tarball files????? My Aim is SprflyZapp02:00
HrdwrBoBcato_: then curse the ground that ATI walks on02:00
nevinRazor-X: last entry in the line, is it correct?02:00
brian__i think i set it to use opengl02:00
cato_HrdwrBoB, :p02:00
brian__was that stupid of me?02:00
cato_HrdwrBoB, overwrite both locations? eh? could you specify?02:00
cafuegobrian__: No, opengl is hardware02:00
Razor-Xnevin: I know my password02:00
luke2Ha! Got it. Had to install the JRE. Even though I'm on the only account I still had to use sudo.02:00
HrdwrBoBcato_: both the kernel module and the X driver02:00
nevinSprflyZapp: tar xvzf tarballfile.tar.gz02:00
cato_HrdwrBoB, and how do i overwrite the kernel module.. to make it compatible with the "new universal ati" installer?02:01
SprflyZapp...... ur talking german to me lol02:01
nevinsprflyzapp: then cd into the directory, and run ./configure; make all; make install02:01
nevindo you have a shell open?02:01
Razor-Xnevin: me?02:01
rafterhi; i have 1 ? i need to edit /etc/ld.so.conf; is this space, semicolon, comma, or new line delimitated?02:02
nevinflyzapp: shell open?02:02
brian__ok im back from ohone02:02
brian__err phone02:02
sandiswhere can i find developers channel?02:02
SprflyZappi dunno02:02
cafuegonevin: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local is what you meant to say, isn't it?02:02
brian__cafuego so i chose correctly?02:02
cafuegobrian__: Yep02:02
nevinyes, it is cafuego02:02
Razor-XHrdwrBoB: how did you change your default shell?02:03
nevinRazor-x, what's the last entry in the line you get from grep YOURUSENAME /etc/passwd02:03
cafuegobrian__: What sort of framerates did you get under windows?02:03
SprflyZapphow do i know if my shell is open?02:03
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brian__well I got decent framerates around 100 or more02:03
sandisSZ: right click -> open terminal02:03
Razor-Xmy shell should be /bin/zsh it says02:03
nevinflyzapp: you need to have a console, or a shell open.... under applications -> system tools -> terminal02:03
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cafuegobrian__: Hmm.02:03
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brian__yeah02:03
SprflyZappo ok02:03
Razor-Xhome directory is /home/razorx, shell is /bin/zsh02:04
brian__do you think i should get the 64bit version of this when i build my new pc02:04
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nevinRazor-X: do you want zsh to be default shell?02:04
brian__well i guess i can make that decision02:04
Razor-Xnevin: yes02:04
brian__just have to give it time02:04
luke2Ugh. Getting back into Linux is making me think too much. It's okay though... Windows drives me crazy.02:04
nevinsprflyzapp: terminal, shell, and console are interchagneable02:04
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marfisanyone in here who got weired dm-linear errors after compiling the kernel and solved that issue? ("dm-linear: Device lookup failed" ...)02:04
cafuegobrian__: The 64bit version can't run Cedega at all. (without hassle)02:04
cafuegomarfis: Do you *need* the device mapper for anything?02:04
brian__i realize i am in a completley new and chaotic world02:05
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brian__which is fine02:05
brian__im willing to learn02:05
SprflyZappokay02:05
frank234brian__: isnt UT sort of like cube? to me theyre both pretty fast .. you might want to try cube02:05
brian__its just that reading puts me to sleep02:05
blake__I am having trouble getting Enemy Territory to run after upgrading form warty to hoary02:05
Razor-Xfrank234: Cube is _much_ slower than UT02:05
brian__whats Cube?02:05
Razor-Xbrian__: it's an FPS02:05
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frank234well, its faster than other fps ...02:05
brian__built for linux?02:05
cafuegobrian__: a regular six-sided polygon02:05
frank234brian__: yes02:05
brian__haha02:05
Razor-Xfrank234: UT is meant for speed02:05
frank234www.cubeengine.com i believe02:06
blake__Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".02:06
blake__Couldn't get a visual02:06
blake__...WARNING: could not set the given mode (3)02:06
blake__----- CL_Shutdown -----02:06
blake__RE_Shutdown( 1 )02:06
Razor-Xbrian__: go buy yourself native Linux UT02:06
blake__-----------------------02:06
blake__----- CL_Shutdown -----02:06
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blake__-----------------------02:06
brian__ok02:06
Razor-Xthere's a native Linux version of UT02:06
blake__Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem02:06
cafuegobrian__: Don't paste02:06
Razor-Xblake__: don't paste in here02:06
blake__anyone know the root of my problem?!02:06
marfiscafuego, jeap, I need dm-crypt, using encrypted partitions...02:06
brian__or i can dl it right?02:06
blake__sorry02:06
brian__or shall not speakith02:06
cafuegoblake__: Don't paste02:06
cafuegostupid tab02:06
blake__yea, i've got it guys, sorry02:06
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frank234Razor-x: to me UT is like rabbits running around, too fast for me :)02:06
brian__lol02:06
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Razor-Xfrank234: that's why most people can't play it02:06
Razor-Xit takes more skill than any other FPS, IMO02:06
brian__i love the fast paced fps's02:06
cafuego!paster02:06
ubotucafuego: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about02:06
cafuego!paste02:06
uboturumour has it, paste is ""http://ubuntu.pastebin.com http://pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.""02:06
Razor-Xto survive in UT at the highest mode is skill itself02:06
Razor-Xmuch more so than sitting in a corner for an hour, waiting for someone to drop their guard, and shooting02:07
brian__hmm02:07
Razor-Xthat's just idiotic patience, IMO02:07
brian__well that sounds like a campers map02:07
frank234well in halo, aiming with lag is the main skill ;)02:07
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blake__so nobody can help me?02:07
frank234(pc) i mean02:07
Razor-Xbrian__: no, that's CS XD02:07
brian__but i am totally into a good strategy02:07
Razor-Xcafuego: can you help me change my default shell? ;)02:07
ed1thow do i play .wmv files?02:07
Razor-Xbrian__: I love UT, it's fscking awesome02:08
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frank234razor-x: isnt it just some setting in system tools02:08
Razor-X!tell ed1t about restrictedformats02:08
sandisit would be nice if there would be more mainstream games for linux02:08
lllmanullledlt : mplayer ?02:08
cafuegoed1t: install w32codecs and then use totem or something02:08
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brian__its just difficult to find those willing to put aside their running rampit tendencies02:08
frank234razor-x: system-preferences-prefferred applications02:08
cafuegoarrrgh, only 29% done02:08
Razor-Xfrank234: I don't use Gnome, A)02:08
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brian__and coordinate a skillful planned attack02:08
Razor-Xsecond, I don't use the included Terminal package02:08
frank234sorry :)02:08
marfiscafuego, by the way, it's not he goal to turn of everything that throws an error... ;)02:08
Razor-Xbut both Konsole and Eterm bring up BASH :(02:08
roo_Razor-X, sorry i missed it, what are you trying to do?02:09
Razor-XI can run zsh in BASH, but that's sorta pointless no?02:09
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Razor-Xroo_: make zsh my default shell02:09
Razor-XI ran chsh -s /bin/zsh already02:09
cato_i keep getting this message in my Xorg.0.log.. "Kernel Module version does *not* match driver." How can i make the kernel module version compatible with the driver? (Im using the Ati universal installer from ati.com).. fglrx kernel module says its version: 8.8.2502:09
roo_Razor-X, logged in/out ?02:09
Razor-Xthen I tried sudo -s /bin/zsh username02:09
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Razor-Xroo_: do you need to do that?02:09
roo_Razor-X, yes :)02:09
Razor-Xaggghhh, ok ;)02:09
roo_Razor-X, log out properly02:09
Razor-Xbrb people02:09
roo_Razor-X, might need restart depending on ur setup02:09
blake__can anyone help me out?02:09
roo_oops, too ate :)02:09
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brian__driver does not support the firegl x11 extentions02:10
roo_blake__, nobody can help you if you dont tell them what u need :)02:10
brian__thats what i get from trying to run ati control panel02:10
blake__i tried and got yelled at for posting the error02:10
blake__Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem02:10
r0bbyI think i got it02:10
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Razor-XLive the ZSH ;)02:11
luke2Does anyone know a good video player that can do .wmv?02:11
Razor-Xthe prompt feels weird, meh02:11
frankblake__: you need 3d drivers for your card02:11
Razor-Xplus, you aren't seeing the default directory02:11
frankluke2: they all can, you need w32codecs02:11
r0bbyyay i got it!02:11
r0bby:D02:11
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Razor-Xs/default/current/02:11
Razor-Xjust the box name02:11
blake__i have the latest nvidia drivers installed and enabled02:11
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luke2frank: Okay. So Totem will work fine?02:12
frankluke2: I think it should although I don't use it02:12
cato_How do i install the fglrx kernel module 8.14.13-2 ?02:12
luke2frank: You got a preference on an app?02:12
frankblake__: glxinfo | grep direct02:12
blake__Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual02:12
frankluke2: I run kde, so I mostly use kaffeine. you could also try mplayer02:13
blake__yea, i use mplayer from video files02:13
kozlykcan anyone help me work through a samba problem?02:13
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luke2frank: Thanks. Getting back into Linux here. Setting up my stuff.02:13
luke2frank: I appreciate it.02:13
frankblake__: was that error from glxinfo?02:14
frankluke2: np02:14
blake__correct02:14
frankblake__: did you restart X02:14
blake__yes02:14
salapoliisi!theme02:14
ubotutheme is, like, http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/02:14
blake__i even reinstalled the drivers after a kernel upgrade02:14
frankpaste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to pastebin02:14
roo_Razor-X, all working now?02:14
salapoliisihow do i copy in linux putty?02:15
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nevinsalapoliisi: highlighting it should work02:15
roo_salapoliisi, try highlighting text to copy and middle click to paste02:15
roo_salapoliisi, or shift+insert to paste02:15
salapoliisioh middleclick :)02:15
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salapoliisiroo_: i only asked how to copy, but anyway thanks :)02:16
Razor-Xdoes zsh auto-echo the command you feed it?02:16
frankblake__: well you have no 3d acceleration right now02:16
roo_Razor-X, huh? auto echo?!02:16
Razor-Xroo_: if I type in, say print $ZSH_VERSION02:16
Razor-Xit prints my command02:16
Razor-Xthen it prints the output02:16
blake__that doesn't seem right... my 3d screensavers are flying compared to before i had nvidia drivers installed02:16
roo_Razor-X, if i understand you correctly then yes.02:17
Razor-Xroo_: mmmkay02:17
roo_Razor-X, there is a nice .zshrc to get you started..02:17
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Razor-Xroo_: hehe02:17
blake__Driver"nv"02:17
Razor-XI gotta start converting my aliases ;)02:17
frankblake__: really? well glxinfo should not give you an error02:17
roo_Razor-X, http://dev.gentoo.org/~slarti/conf/zshrc.html02:17
roo_Razor-X, this one is very nice. the guy, slarti is a gentoo dev. drop him an email if you find it useful :)02:18
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Razor-Xroo_: I will ;)02:18
roo_Razor-X, and btw, zsh is fucking awesome. use this zshrc and you'l see magic happening right in front of you.02:18
vinuxhey guys how do I make my gnome menu transparent?02:18
frankblake__: driver should be nvidia02:18
blake__frank, well the only thing that i can think of is that i did an upgrade through apt-get from warty to hoary, so from xfree86 to xorg...02:18
blake__lemme try a dpkg-reconfigure02:19
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Razor-Xroo_: en_GB?02:20
Razor-Xwhat language is that?02:20
comforteagleI just installed postfix.. but what must I add to the config to get it to deliver mail outside to other domains?02:20
blake__engilsh great britian02:20
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vinuxwhat is zsh?02:20
blake__frank, autodetect is giving me nv, which it always has, and is right about nvidia02:20
Razor-Xblake__: that's what I thought02:20
luke2vinux: A shell similar to ksh02:21
Razor-Xvinux: it's an alternate shell02:21
procrastinatorWhy do i get "Icon not found" when I try to set an icon for beep-media-player? Gnome has some sort of phobia for the BMP icon - all other images work fine, except that icon. I've tried svg, png and xpm, the same all over.02:21
roo_vinux, the best shell in the world.02:21
vinuxroo_, cool02:21
frankblake__: if the nvidia drivers are really installed, you can edit xorg.conf by hand02:21
luke2vinux: Most distros/people use bash. zsh is cool though.02:21
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roo_bash being the "standard" distro shell is one of the mysteries i cant explain.02:22
roo_zsh does everything bash can do. bash cannot do some of the coolest things zsh can do.02:22
luke2Me either. It works though.02:22
blake__frank, GLcore wasn't being loaded by default due to the xorg upgrade... i think that may be the problem02:22
Razor-Xroo_: Eshell does some nice zsh stuff02:22
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roo_Razor-X, so ive heard, havent tried it yet.02:23
Razor-Xthat's why I wanted to make my default shell zsh02:23
Razor-Xroo_: it's nice, IMO02:23
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frankblake__: I don't have that loaded either02:23
luke2I'll just stick to zsh.02:23
Razor-Xbut, obviously Eshell is run in emacs itself, it's not a default shell02:23
vinuxroo_, so when I install it how will I get it to work? Or will it just work in place of bash after I install it?02:23
cato_is there a way to get the newest ATI drivers while using the "BinaryDriverHowto" guide?..02:23
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frankblake__: Load "glx" and Driver  "nvidia"02:23
roo_vinux, google for "changing shell", "switch bash to zsh" etc. its very easy :)02:23
vinuxwoot thanks02:23
roo_vinux, just remember to log out/log in afterwards. right Razor-X ? ;)02:24
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blake__who do i do that?02:24
blake__how*02:24
roo_btw Razor-X , im a vim guy, hence not trying eshell.02:24
Razor-Xvinux: chsh -s /bin/zsh (after you get it)02:24
Razor-Xroo_: heh ;)02:24
frankblake__: you edit   sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:24
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r0bbydoes grub accept symlinks for menu.lst?02:24
vinuxRazor-X, thanks02:24
r0bbywill grub follow a symlink i mean?02:24
sproingier0bby: i doubt it02:25
frankr0bby: why would need that?02:25
r0bbybecause I have a weird setup02:25
roo_vinux, google for "slarti zshrc" to find a very nice ~/.zshrc to get you going.02:25
blake__frank, it is already like that02:25
roo_r0bby, only one way to find out?02:25
r0bbyremind me why i'm being an idiot and using breezy :P02:25
Razor-Xvinux: http://dev.gentoo.org/~slarti/conf/zshrc.html02:25
r0bbylol02:26
Razor-Xroo_: I still have it in my kill ring ;)02:26
frankblake__: and you restarted X and glxinfo doesn't work???  you can also comment out #Load "dri"02:26
r0bbybut yeh02:26
roo_Razor-X, kill ring? huh?02:26
blake__correct02:26
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roo_Razor-X, oh, emacs talk.02:26
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roo_:p02:27
r0bbyI like vim :D02:27
frankblake__: dri is commented out?02:27
blake__brb02:27
blake__yea02:27
blake__gonna try again02:27
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luke2Me too. vim is the best.02:27
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Razor-Xeveryone likes vim, because they hear emacs is so huge and shy away02:27
luke2Bahh. emacs is overrated.02:27
roo_Razor-X, i tried emacs first. it was veeery powerful, but i only needed a text editor and a text editor only.02:28
cafuegoRazor-X: It's has nothing to do with huge and everything with overkill02:28
roo_and by golly, the best text editor in the world.02:28
Razor-Xsadly, emacs probably takes 1/6 of the amount of the memory your browser ;)02:28
FiretechThere is one reason not to use zsh in ubuntu, and that is UTF-8. I use it anyway, but each time I enter a foreign character, the command line gets confused.02:28
Razor-Xcafuego: as an example, can you add a `\' behind every instance of ``log'' in a LaTeX file without learning regexps? ;)02:29
roo_Firetech, ah, thanks for that. i am ignorant to such things because i dont use/need utf-8..02:29
Razor-XFiretech: Eterm doesen't support utf-8 either02:29
luke2Firetech: Whenever I enter a foreign character he gets deported. :)02:29
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cafuegoRazor-X: Sure, but I'd not use LaTeX to begin with.02:29
Razor-Xbut screen circumvents that ;)02:29
roo_Razor-X, regexen were *designed* for that job! what merit for not using them? :/02:29
cafuego:%s/log/log\\/g02:29
Razor-Xcafuego: how 'bout removing every instance of an IRC nick from a file?02:29
Razor-Xroo_: I know regexps02:29
Alinuxsomeone speaks in italian ?02:29
cato_Ok, does anyone know what this means? Im trying to build the fglrx modules inside /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod .. with make.sh.. and during the "making" i get this: Warning: could not find /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/.libfglrx_ip.a.GCC3.cmd for /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/libfglrx_ip.a.GCC302:30
cafuegoRazor-X: Of course.02:30
roo_Razor-X, so if you know them and they can do they job, why not use them?02:30
SismaIo02:30
Razor-Xbut, with the emacs macro, regexps have become obsolete02:30
cato_would that affect anything?02:30
Razor-XAlinux: try #ubuntu-it02:30
AlinuxRazor-X, thanks!02:30
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cafuegoRazor-X: That's a bit narrow minded, in case you end up working on an emacs-free (yes, I'm going to buy the domain) system.02:30
Razor-Xcafuego: well, I know my regexps02:30
roo_Razor-X, hm, i dont care if they're obsolete. regexen are a tool that perform an important job effectively.02:30
Razor-Xsome things emacs macros just aren't powerful enough to do (comparitive to the amount of work the regexp takes)02:31
Razor-Xand emacs regexp support is tres horrible02:31
cafuegoRazor-X: And I'm sure I can make sed and/or awk and/or tr work a lot faster than emacs.02:31
Razor-X(which is why I use sed)02:31
Razor-Xcafuego: doubt it02:31
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Razor-Xon a modern system, they both work just has fast02:31
roo_cafuego, i was just gonna say that there are other text processors you could use that can whip emacs macros AND regex..02:31
cafuegoRazor-X: They're _done_ before emacs even finishes starting02:31
Razor-Xcafuego: you've obviously used a warped version of emacs02:32
Razor-Xan emacs with no addons starts up instantly02:32
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Razor-Xit's a total _myth_ that emacs takes hours to load and takes up gobs of memory02:32
cato_build succeeded with return value 002:32
cato_    :o ??02:32
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cafuegoRazor-X: Not on my 1.8GHz AMD64 with 1.5GB or ram it doesn't.02:32
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castorsum..02:32
cafuegoRazor-X: vim is instantaneous, emacs is not.02:32
castorshello ;)02:33
HrdwrBoBemacs runs fine on my dual core opteron with 4gm ram02:33
HrdwrBoB4gb02:33
Burgundaviacafuego, Razor-X flame wars can be taken elsewhere please02:33
BurgundaviaHrdwrBoB, you too02:33
roo_ol HrdwrBoB02:33
cafuegoBurgundavia: I'm not flaming, mate.02:33
HrdwrBoB*ahem*02:33
HrdwrBoBcafuego: I take it that means it has finished building successfully02:34
HrdwrBoBer cato_02:34
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cafuegoit's just a useless discussion about whether certain software does or does not start fast on my hardware ;-)02:34
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cafuegoHrdwrBoB: No, it's only at 61.2%02:35
SdEfthere is any program for linux like Everest, cpu-z or similar that sais ram information and timmings?02:35
kozlykwhat is the number to make a directory writable from another computer?02:35
cafuegoSdEf: try 'read-edid'02:35
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Madpilotevening, all02:36
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cafuegokozlyk: 402:36
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: no, I lie. 2.02:36
nevinkozlyk: there's no difference between permissions for locally and remotly mounted filesystems02:36
cafuegokozlyk: Writable for whom? owner, group or other?02:36
kozlykuser02:36
cafuegokozlyk: 070002:36
windexhi guys. question: does ubuntu support any network authentication methods (e.g. nss samba) out of the box? i don't see anything in aptitude search.02:37
cafuegokozlyk: That's full perms for use, nothing for anyone else02:37
kozlykit is set for 755 right now02:37
cafuegokozlyk: *nod*02:37
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Surfdue_hellooo02:37
cafuegokozlyk: write for user, read for everyone else02:37
Surfdue_my pcmicia card disabls when i enable it02:37
nevinkolzyk: you said another computer, it doesn't matter what computer, permissions are always the same02:37
SdEfcafuego: read-edid isn't for monitor only?02:37
cafuegoSdEf: Mine also has ram info, I'm sure. let me see.02:38
nevinkolzyk: unless you export an nfs filesystem ALL read only02:38
kozlykso what is the number for read/write for everyone in that one directory?02:38
Surfdue_in dmesg it says wlan0: no ipv6 routers persent02:38
nevinkozlyk: 77702:38
Madpilot77702:38
kozlykk02:38
nevinANYONE ca read/write/execute then02:38
Madpilotwhich is not always a good thing...02:38
cafuegoOr maybe I'm on crack.02:38
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nevinkozlyk: try looking up "relative permissions" on google, they're easier to set stuff with02:39
goldfishno way02:39
goldfishoctal 4ever.02:39
TheSinand still breezy xutils is not fixed, yay :D02:39
TheSinjust checking :P lates all02:39
cafuegoTheSin: /topic02:39
goldfishyou should set the sticky bit, so users can only delte their own files.02:39
TheSincafuego, yup that is what I was refering to02:39
cafuegoTheSin: Mine works fine, though. Just need a bit of user intervention, deletion and downgrading02:40
TheSincafuego, well mkfontdir is missing from xutils02:40
The_Voxcafuego: I wouldn't call that "working" :)02:40
TheSinI suppose if i downgrade that it'd be okay02:40
cafuegoTheSin: No, *everything* is missing from xutils ;-)02:40
TheSinthanks for the idea cafuego02:40
TheSinhehe totally02:40
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cafuegoTheSin: Luckily xutils -34 or so works fine.02:40
TheSinbut with out fonts, no x11 :D02:41
TheSinI gonna try that thanks02:41
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IFRFLYRHi, is there a way to limit cpu scaling, say, make a ceiling of 1.2GHz as opposed to its max of 1.5, or is it an all or nothing thing?02:44
luke2Sorry for a stupid question -- it's been a while: To install .deb packages just use dpkg --install foobar.deb02:44
luke2Right?02:44
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bimberiluke2: dpkg -i foobar.deb02:44
luke2Always used rpms in the past. My first debian based os.02:44
luke2bimberi: Thanks02:44
cafuegoIFRFLYR: mebbe if you hack the acpi module responsible for scaling02:44
Surfdue_anyone02:44
Razor-Xback02:44
Burgundavialuke2, yes, but most programs are in the repositories02:44
Surfdue_pcmica why does it disable?02:44
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bimberiluke2: np - although if the program can be installed via synaptic do that02:45
IFRFLYRHi, cafuego, thanks. I guess this is a question, then for ubuntu-devel?02:45
BurgundaviaIFRFLYR, no02:45
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luke2bimberi: It was w32codecs. Didn't see it in Synaptic.02:45
IFRFLYRBurgundavia, Oh/?02:45
cafuegoIFRFLYR: kernel development02:45
IFRFLYRAh!02:45
IFRFLYRwhere they be?02:45
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cafuegoIFRFLYR: it might be a nice feature for the acpi module to take max_mhz as param or something02:46
cafuegoIFRFLYR: mailing list, google for LKML02:46
IFRFLYRThat's what I was thinking, rather than just switching it flat off, setting it to something reasonable02:46
Razor-Xprint %n02:46
Razor-Xgah!02:46
Razor-Xsorry ;)02:46
qpidlicht und farben :D PARTY02:46
IFRFLYRwhen you need to.02:46
IFRFLYRThanks!02:46
procrastinatorI love you guys!02:47
procrastinatorI just wanted you to know that.02:47
procrastinatorGoodnight!02:47
Surfdue_:|02:47
windexlet's try again. :D question: does ubuntu support any network authentication methods (e.g. nss-samba, ldap, etc) out of the box (or via aptitude in the default post-install packages)? i don't see anything in aptitude search.02:47
Surfdue_night02:47
qpidwhy u call youre self windex?02:48
windexi've used the name for a very, very long time. any original purpose i had is long forgotten. :)02:49
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tikkaI have a dilema, I wish to permit other users to access drives I have mounted. Currently they recieve ACCESS DENIED.. anyone available to assist me?02:49
kozlykhas anyone had a problem with zonealarm preventing them from accessing an ubuntu samba server?02:50
cafuegowindex: Yes, but you'll need to set up PAM to use said method.02:50
HrdwrBoBwell pam is already in use02:50
HrdwrBoBbut yes, you can change it to use network authentication02:50
cafuegotikka: set permissions. if they're FAT32, check the uid, gid and umask options in 'man fstab'.02:50
tikkakozlyk,  Turn it off.. if u can get on the samba server u know its zone alarm........... in that instance check ur ZA settings02:51
qpidsry but i take a nip to much:D02:51
HrdwrBoBwindex: are you also searching in universe?02:51
cato_can i install the kernel-source-2.6.10-5-386 ?02:51
kozlyktikka:  i have figured it is zonealarm now, just wondering if there was a setting specifically for local network access02:51
tikkai did man mount.. which showed me information regarding the uid and gid, saying that the uid is set to 0 as default. so ..02:51
cato_if there even is such a source?02:51
tikkazone alarm is pretty pants02:51
windexHrdwrBoB: no. i'm hoping for something that's paid more attention to than universe. :)02:51
tikkacafuego, also its ntfs. makes any difference?02:52
HrdwrBoBwindex: heh, a lot of the stuff in universe is still maintained, just not 'officially'02:52
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tikkakozlyk, dare i suggest uninstalling ZA .. so that it prompts you next time you attempt it. google for permitting the lan range of ips.. since i havent a clue where u set that.02:53
goldfishtikka: mount -t ntfs /dev/BLAH /mnt/foo -oumask=00002:53
Burgundaviawindex, the stuff in universe has people looking after it. Universe merely means that you cannot pay canonical money to support you with it02:53
tikkagoldfish, thanks02:53
windexwell, basically what i want to be able to do is configure authentication across an entire network of ubuntu without adding software not in the default install and main for installation on machines. :)02:53
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tikkacafuego, thanks for the help.02:54
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tikkagoldfish, thank you loads for getting me out of a situation i needed a fast solution too.02:54
SdEfcafuego: if couldn't find read-edid ram timing information, only for read monitor timings, can you explain how to use it?02:55
HrdwrBoBwindex: I'm not sure that it's easily possible02:55
windexHrdwrBoB: im figuring that out. :)02:56
yanghello02:56
yangi have a question here02:56
HrdwrBoByang: better ask it then02:56
HrdwrBoB:)02:56
windexHrdwrBoB: i think in order to do it i am going to have to build a package and configure a site-specific apt repository02:56
goldfishtikka: no problem.02:57
yangi've just insalled a beagle from synaptic, but i cannot run it, what should i do02:57
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windexHrdwrBoB: but since i should set up a mirror server anyway so security updates aren't downloaded a hundred times over..02:58
cafuegoyang: Run 'beagled' and pray it doesn't crash immediately.02:58
cafuegoSdEf: No, I was on crack, it's not in there.02:58
yangi'll try02:58
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SdEfoh, ok02:58
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cafuegoyang: and then run 'best'02:59
ed1tdoes anybody know the link for winmac_fstab ?02:59
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cafuego!listvals winmac03:00
ubotuFactoid search of 'winmac' by value (7 shown): vfat ;; ntfs ;; hfs+ ;; user accessible ntfs ;; hfs ;; fat32 ;; hfsplus.03:00
cafuego!vfat03:00
ubotuI heard vfat is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab03:00
ed1tthx03:00
yangcafuego: it said "Beagle Daemon exited with errors"03:01
AndaresHi.03:01
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AndaresHow do I fix this?03:01
Andareslibfontconfig1-dev:03:01
Andares  Depends: libfontconfig1 (=2.2.3-4ubuntu7) but 2.3.1-2 is to be installed03:01
cafuegoyang: Yeah, it does that. Just give up until they fix the code.03:01
ed1tcafuego, do you know any software for win xp from where i can access read/write on linux ext3 partitions?03:01
som1how can i tell ubuntu to use a proxy for everything/something specific that doesnt support proxy use?03:02
AndaresI suck at apt-get, when I try to uninstall libfontconfig1 it threatens to uninstall every goddamn package I have.03:02
yangcafuego: wha?.. o my... :D03:02
cafuegoed1t: Payware for write, freeware for read...03:02
som1ed1t ex2fs can read, im not sure if write03:02
Daveymy .desktop files are trying to run as scripts, what did I break and how can I fix it? :)03:02
yangcafuego: thanx anyway03:02
BurgundaviaAndares, do you have non-ubuntu repos in your sources.list?03:02
AndaresBurgundavia, yea.03:02
AndaresWhy?03:02
BurgundaviaAndares, which ones?03:02
cafuegoed1t: explore2fs for write access (payware)03:02
ed1tthx03:03
AndaresBurgundavia, Lets see.... Universe, Multiverse, Wine, and Enlightenment.03:03
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cafuegoed1t: No, I lie.03:03
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ed1tsomeone told me that there was some project on sf.ne03:03
ed1tsf.net03:03
BurgundaviaAndares, you have stuff that is compiled for Sarge and not Hoary. That is what is breaking03:03
BurgundaviaAndares, not much you can do03:03
som1how can i tell ubuntu to use a proxy for everything/something specific that doesnt support proxy use?03:03
som1:<03:03
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AndaresBurgundavia, ...03:03
AndaresBurgundavia, There is always something I can do.03:03
som1"format and reinstall" is the windows way, Andares.03:04
AndaresAnd I am not on Windows.03:04
cafuegoed1t: if the disk is marked as clean, this will also write: http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/03:04
som1but thats how it works.03:04
HrdwrBoBwindex: yeah03:04
BurgundaviaAndares, is it E or Wine that is trying to install a new fontconfig?03:04
HrdwrBoBwindex: I need to do the same thign here03:04
ed1tcafuego, i have ext3 partitions03:04
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AndaresBurgundavia, neither. Gosu.03:04
cafuegoed1t: Yes, I just wrote to ext3 using it03:04
ed1tok03:05
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cafuegoed1t: just make sure it unmounts cleanly under Linux; then it'll be fine.03:05
BurgundaviaAndares, what is gosu03:05
Burgundavia?03:05
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AndaresBurgundavia, It's a game sdk.03:06
Burgundaviaah, ok03:06
AndaresI need to install "pangoft2", which needs this.03:06
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Burgundaviaand what is that depending on?03:06
AndaresThis.03:07
Andareslibfontconfig1-dev03:07
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AndaresBurgundavia, Why does it want to remove every single package I've installed when I try to uninstall libfontconfig1?03:08
AndaresIs this a bug?03:08
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BurgundaviaAndares, no03:08
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Madpilotback in a moment... upgrading to Opera 8.02...03:08
Burgundaviathe issue that Hoary is older than Sarge, and thus Wine and E are compiled for Sarge03:08
windexisin't that the other way around, burg?03:09
windexsarge was testing, sid was unstable.. hoary is based on sid? :)03:09
Burgundaviayes, but frozen at an earlier date03:09
windexah03:09
BurgundaviaHoary released in April, Sarge in June03:10
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som1how can i tell ubuntu to use a proxy?03:10
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Madpilotsweet, 8.02 works, I'm back03:10
Burgundaviasom1, system-->prefs-->network proxy03:10
som1no03:10
som1i use fvwm03:10
Burgundaviathen I have no idea03:11
jake1has anyone been able to compile03:11
windexsounds like you need to find out what system-->prefs-->network proxy does. :)03:11
NovaWo1fGot a little annoyance issue here.. Whenever I shutdown -h after it goes through everything, and it starts to flush the drives, I get a buncha garbage and a Seg Fault.. Any clue what would cause that?03:11
som1no ill skip that stage03:11
jake1wlassistant + install it03:11
som1and find out how its done myself03:11
BurgundaviaAndares, back to your issue. You might be screwed03:12
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cato_how do i "uninstall" a previously installed package? I installed it with "dpkg -i <package.deb>"03:12
BurgundaviaAndares, you can try and pull the packages and build them your self03:12
BurgundaviaAndares, wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuiderHowto can help you in that03:12
jake1it says that i failed sanity or something along those lines03:12
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windexcato_: dpkg -r <package.deb>03:13
socommcato_: Read dpkg's manual.03:13
socomm`man dpkg'03:13
gpdcato_: you should be able to remove it with apt-get remove / aptitude / synaptic...03:14
cato_tried that.. what i found out was something like dpkg -r --clear-avail <package.deb>.. but that didnt work.. :\ i suck at this.. heh03:14
Burgundaviacato_, if you have X running, synaptic will tell you about locally installed packages03:14
vader1102cato: no worries... I do to, that's the reason I sit in here03:14
dbwanyone know where i can get GPG keys for the backports?03:15
cato_All this hassle, just to get the newest ati drivers working.. bleh.. is it really worth it?..03:15
som1no unless you have a problem with the older driver03:15
cato_i do03:15
cato_the binarydriverhowto wont let me run games with cedega 4.403:15
som1so its worth it03:15
largezhanghi all. I want to download a package from oldstable of Debian. I put it in the source.lst, but apt seems to  Ign it. What shall I do? Thanks.03:16
Burgundavialargezhang, which package?03:16
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som1download it manually03:16
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cato_Does anyone know -all- the steps to getting the Universall ati installer working? like, what to install (What i REALLY need to get it working).03:17
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largezhangBurgundavia: libstdc++2.9-glibc2.103:17
black13what is command to setup xorg ... its dpkg-reconfigure ... somting right03:17
Burgundavialargezhang, why are you trying to get that?03:18
astronutI'm using the live cd to see how well linux handles all of my laptop's hardware....i fixed the PCMIA bus by modifying some PCI stuff, but to get the full features ofmy touchpad, i have to patch the kernel..how can i do this on a live cd? (Can i create a custem kernel on floppy, or reburn the cd, etc)03:18
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astronutblack-whisp, xserver-xorg i believe03:18
som1how can i set a proxy for everything by command?03:19
bimberiblack13: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:19
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astronutsom1, sudo route add default <proxy IP/address>03:20
astronut;-)03:20
som1alright03:20
som1thanks03:20
NovaWo1fSo, anyone know why when I shutdown I get a seg fault?03:20
astronutonly do that if you know what your'e doing03:20
astronutbecause i don't think it's quite what you think03:20
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astronutNovaWo1f, what segfualts03:20
som1i know what it does03:20
largezhangBurgundavia: I have an executable stan2000 and it yelled for libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2, which google told is in that package03:20
som1erm03:20
jake1anyone here able to help me with compiling a KDE app03:20
black13bimberi when dpkg-reconfigure runs does it launch a script inside the debian package?03:21
som1how can i tell it to go after a few hops?03:21
jake1please03:21
NovaWo1fIts after it shuts down, and it starts flushing the hdd's, the console scrolls a buncha garbage and ends with a seg fault of some kind.03:21
astronutsom1, i really don't think you realize what that does....03:21
Burgundavialargezhang, Ubuntu already has a newer version of the libstdc++, so you won't be able to instlal it03:21
som1i do03:21
jake1seemingly i have a terminal error output message03:21
astronutsom1, if you say so...03:21
Burgundaviajake1, you are more likely to find help in #kubuntu03:21
som1but i need it to go like vxr.tau.ac.il->c6509.tau.ac.il and then my proxy03:21
Burgundavialargezhang, does stan2000 not work with the version in Ubuntu?03:22
jake1yea i tried that Burgundavia no one responded03:22
LokeDKI removed the OpenOffice menu entrys by an accident.. how do I get them back03:22
astronutsom1, if your'e saying that, you REALLY dn't know what route is for03:22
Burgundaviajake1, what are you compiling. From source or from apt-get source03:22
som1yes so i dont need that command03:22
bimberiblack13: no idea sorry03:22
astronutI'm using the live cd to see how well linux handles all of my laptop's hardware....i fixed the PCMIA bus by modifying some PCI stuff, but to get the full features ofmy touchpad, i have to patch the kernel..how can i do this on a live cd? (Can i create a custem kernel on floppy, or reburn the cd, etc)03:22
jake1source03:22
som1ANWYAY03:22
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jake1i thought that compiling from source would be the same in gnome and kde03:23
som1err?03:23
largezhangBurgundavia: it seems so: stan2000: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director03:24
bimberiblack13: logically though - it would have to be running somthing that was unpacked from the package03:25
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jake1the output says "configure: error C++ preprocessor "/libb/cpp" fails sanity check03:25
jake1"03:25
bimberiblack13: and using debconf it would seem)03:25
jake1i am not even sure what that means03:25
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black13bimberi yep ... basically i am working on debian derive i am using for a game project03:25
bimberic/)//03:25
jake1does that mean it needs a phsyciatrist03:25
jake1?03:25
black13bimberi and i need xorg to autoconfigure03:25
black13bimberi or semi autoconfigure03:26
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cafuegojedix: install build-essential03:26
jedixhey, has anyone on an amd64 box setup doom3?03:26
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jedixcafuego: you knew the answer before the question?03:27
socommjedix: http://www.google.com/linux03:27
cafuegoblack13: Any reason you're compiling Xorg instead of just using the package?03:27
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bimberiblack13: dpkg-reconfigure has a --priority flag to control the level of questioning03:27
cafuegojedix: No, tab went bad03:27
jedixand socomm too I guess?03:27
cafuegojake1: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'03:27
punchmancafuego, many many reasons03:27
black13cafuego i stop compile serveral weeks back and im using the packages from ubuntu03:27
cafuegopunchman: Yes, but they're normally all bad.03:28
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Gnobodyis x fixed in breezy yet?03:28
cafuegoGnobody: No.03:28
black13cafuego i stopped flagelating myself and wearing hairshirts03:28
cafuegoblack13: Aaah i see. you after 'dpkg-reconfigure -(low|medium|high) xserver-xorg' ?03:29
cafuegothat's -p(low|medium|high)03:29
som1how can i use a proxy for everything?03:29
som1..03:30
cafuegoI swear I'm going dyslexic in my old age03:30
Gnobodyanybody know when Colony 3 should be out?03:30
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som1you cant "go dyslexic"03:30
Gnobodyyou can go blind03:30
techanyone expirience Xorg locking up and taking 100% cpu? it just happens randomly. i run latest kubuntu the latest ubuntu nvidia driver package. my videocard is nvidia geforce 6600 AGP.03:30
cafuegosom1: set $http_proxy anf $ftp_proxy03:30
som1you go blind anyway03:30
thespiritoftalhow can i change root password?03:30
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punchmantech, hehehhehehehehehehehheheheh03:30
jake1i hear that dyslexia does not effect you if you start studying another language03:30
som1thank you.03:31
cafuegoI can so go lysdexic if i want to!03:31
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jake1such as chinese or arabic03:31
jake1hey i got a question03:31
som1but i dont mean for ftp/http03:31
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jake1what does DNA stand for03:31
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techpunchman, what?03:31
jake1?03:31
Gnobodyjake1 that is a wisetale03:31
som1jake1 because you use another part of the brain for it03:31
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|rockinnerd|i'm compiling a new kernel, how do i make an initrd?03:31
black13cafuego i have spoken to you before havent i03:31
cafuego(Dexo?) Nucleic Acid03:31
GnobodyDe-oxyrybosnucleicacid03:31
Gnobodyyeah03:32
HrdwrBoB|rockinnerd|: mkinitrd :)03:32
cafuegoDeoxy yes03:32
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jake1no... wrong... it stands for National Dyslexic Associatin03:32
jake1:-P03:32
|rockinnerd|do you really need an initrd?03:32
GnobodyRibos Nucleic Acid is RNA03:32
Randall64breezy has real issues installing03:32
HrdwrBoB|rockinnerd|: if you want to boot... yes03:32
som1cafuego, for something other than ftp and http03:32
Randall64Anyone know how to force it?03:32
cafuegoRandall64: Hecne the /topic - dDO NOT USE BREEZY03:32
GnobodyI get a kernel panic on the latest Breezy cds03:32
cafuegoRandall64: Any part of that unclear?03:33
|rockinnerd|HrdwrBoB,  i'm using bootsplash, and it says to make it's own initrd...03:33
Randall64cafuego: Can you clarify why glibc is broken in hoary?03:33
GnobodyI never thought I'd see one of those, not even in a dev release03:33
Randall64cafuego: Because really that's the reason I'm installing breezy.03:33
jake1whats the difference between breezy and hoary03:33
jake1?03:33
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Randall64jake1: broken glibc, for one03:33
som1breezy doesnt work, hoary does?03:33
Gnobodynewer stuff03:33
cafuegoRandall64: Last I heard it wasn't. Certainly no problems with it here.03:33
som1:)03:34
punchmanABI?03:34
cafuegoRandall64: is it giving you any specific errors?03:34
Gnobodyone is the development release the other is the current stable03:34
Randall64cafuego: As rock-solid as the works for me principle is, I have to disagree.03:34
som1so how can i use a proxy for something else? not ftp/http03:34
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Randall64cafuego: There are known issues on amd64 that's supposedly fixed in breezy.03:34
PurpleWurldI'm not getting an "add" button in the network settings.  anybody experiencing similar problems?03:34
Necrosan_WHen booting the Ubuntu/sparc64 mini network install cd03:34
|rockinnerd|wait, does >> add something from stdin to the END of a file?03:34
Necrosan_it locks up at "Booting Linux"03:35
Necrosan_Any ideas?03:35
astronutyes03:35
cafuegosom1: use a socks-compatible version of whatever app you want proxy'd03:35
astronutto |rockinnerd|03:35
astronut|rockinnerd|: it's append03:35
som1its not socks03:35
som1and theres no such thing for what i want to use :(03:35
cafuegosom1: What do you want to proxy then?03:35
GnobodyHoary or Breezy Necrosan?03:35
som1the app?03:35
cafuegoRandall64: I can't help you much without specific errors.03:35
cafuegosom1: yes03:35
Gnobodynecrosan_03:35
som1cafuego, enemy territory03:35
som1its a game03:36
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Gnobodywhat is the problem som1?03:36
cafuegosom1: That's proprietary, god only knows.03:36
Lukecould someone tell me what the command to start the printer admin thing is?03:36
Randall64cafuego: I don't think you can help anyway, but thanks.03:36
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Necrosan_Gnobody: Hoary03:36
vader1102I use Hoary, but I am a total noob and I don't use amd 64....this is a no no for me until there are more drivers readily available03:36
Gnobodykillall -9 esd ; et03:36
som1Gnobody i wanna use a proxy for et.03:36
Gnobody^^^ try that som103:36
som1no. i can use sound on et.03:36
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som1it works fine03:37
Gnobodywhats the prob?03:37
som1like i already said03:37
Gnobodyahh03:37
som1i wanna use a proxy on et.03:37
Gnobodyproxy03:37
Gnobodyhmm03:37
PurpleWurldI'm trying to set up wireless access on ubuntu w/ a linksys wusb54gs usb adaptor.  No success w/ ndiswrapper.  Any ideas?03:37
cafuegosom1: WHY do you want to use a proxy for it?03:37
desrtthere's a program out there that lets you log into multiple computers and type the same thing into all of them, right?03:37
som1because when i connect directly its slower03:37
Necrosan_Gnobody: locks up on Booting Linux03:37
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cafuegosom1: No, you're having a conceptual error.03:37
som1.....03:38
GnobodyI seen that problem Necrosan_ on breezy discs but not hoary03:38
Gnobodybeats me03:38
Randall64PurpleWurld: If that is using the chipset I think it does, look for the rt2400 driver on sf.net.03:38
cafuegosom1: Running it through a piece of software on a machine between you and the server is _not_ going to speed it up.03:38
Lukecould someone tell me what the command to start the printer admin application in System/Admin/Printer is?03:38
som1it already has03:38
Necrosan_Gnobody: On Sparc64?03:38
PurpleWurldthnx randall64...I'll try that03:38
|rockinnerd|thx03:38
cafuegosom1: it migth be dropping more packets and making it SEEM faster, but that's a different issue.03:38
GnobodySparc64 and Itanium are real oddballs and are not supported that well by Ubuntu03:39
Necrosan_yeah03:39
Necrosan_heh03:39
som1so i wanna check it03:39
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Gnobodytry debian03:39
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cafuegosom1: I guess you could try doing DNAT on the in-between box, but that again would have NO positive effect on data throughput03:39
som1that never stopped me before03:39
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som1well03:41
som1how?03:41
kadigiboxwholy crap...... ubuntu send me a bunch of CDs and I only ordered 10CDs but I got more like 90 or something like that03:41
som1thats what happens when you order 10 cds.03:41
kadigiboxI didnt know they started makeing live CDs for all 3 arcitectures03:42
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Geekhey guys!03:42
Geeksomeone here active?03:42
som1i can do alot of things with cds.03:43
Geekah hello! =)03:43
som1hi03:43
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Madpilot90 CDs - that's a bunch of potential converts to Ubuntu!03:43
Geekneed some help please03:43
Madpiloti've been burning LiveCDs and giving them to friends & family03:43
som1i wasnt planning to keep the cds in one piece03:43
som1:)03:43
kadigiboxI dont use ubuntu myself but all computers I sell are ubuntu computers03:43
vader1102Geek ask and they shall answer03:43
Geekokay03:44
MadpilotGeek: "Don't ask to ask, just ask."03:44
som1old03:44
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kadigiboxalthough the fact that there is an AMD64 disk I may switch to ubuntu as Debian doesnt realy have an official relice of AMD6403:45
[teh] i suck03:45
Geekwell i just set up my server with the ubuntu install CD and i choose the server installation... well im not used to this runlevel.. just to the gui.. how can i download apache without a gui?03:45
[teh] i thought this machine was locked03:45
som1why when installing grub (with ubuntu) it doesnt notice netbsd?03:45
[teh] i typed my root password into xchat03:45
[teh] :(03:45
Madpilot!lamp03:45
ubotulamp is, like, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary03:45
MadpilotGeek: see the URL that ubotu just posted03:45
som1[teh] , change it then03:45
[teh] doesn't matter though03:46
[teh] im not running ssh03:46
dcgarriwow... hey is there a place where I can go and not be an annoying new guy?03:46
Geekah thx03:46
[teh] so nobody can get in03:46
dcgarri(and also get some answers)03:46
som1dcgarri, outside03:46
jake1checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins tallation and add the correct paths!03:47
Randall64Is there a hoary mini-iso?03:47
timlso, anyone know is breezy is safe atm?03:47
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jake1what do i do now03:47
jake1anyone?03:47
som1no timl03:47
som1its not03:47
timlwhat's it's current major problem?03:47
som1"it doesnt work"03:47
timlthat topic has been like that for quite some time :)03:47
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Geekokay and another question: while the installation it didnt ask me for a root password.. and now i cant log on as root cause of that.. what is the standard password for root or how do i change it03:48
timl"doesn't work" it'll make my computer explode or "doesn't work" one or two things are still a little flakey03:48
Randall64I couldn't get breezy rc2 (or whatever it was #2) to install03:48
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som1explode i dont think so03:48
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jake1checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins tallation and add the correct paths!03:48
jake1can someone help me with that?03:48
Randall64argh, 600MB iso instead of 40-85 mini03:49
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cato_finally! wee! managed to get the ati drivers working.. after like.. 2 days of tinkering around.. *sigh*.. well, its worth it.. i can play guildwars now.. :D03:49
cato_dont ask me how i did it though.. :p03:49
dcgarriyo cato.03:49
dcgarrii'm looking for the same answer03:49
som1so03:49
dcgarrilol sorry03:49
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cato_dcgarri, sorry, but i dont really know what i did.. heh.. :p03:50
dcgarriyeah i'm new though, so anything other than "click this" will be over my head03:50
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som1cafuego how do i use that thing u said?03:50
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cato_dcgarri, i just build the kernel module03:50
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dcgarrilol yeah i'll just go cry for a while then try to read the online docs03:50
Geekyea like me03:50
som1and why is ubuntu ignoring my netbsd installation?03:50
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cato_dcgarri, i just went through all of that.. and boy .. its annoying03:51
Randall64som1: What should it do to it?03:51
cato_dcgarri, hold on.. ill post a link for you03:51
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jake1cafuego??03:51
oni_i'm not getting sound in VLC03:51
som1Randall64 if it atleast installs grub it should show netbsd03:51
jake1anyone???03:51
jake1i'm desperate03:51
cato_dcgarri, i went through these steps.. :) and ill also post my xorg.conf for you..  : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=122362&postcount=603:51
Randall64som1: and BeOS!03:51
som1jake1 whats the problem03:51
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jake1checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins tallation and add the correct paths!03:51
som1oh03:51
jake1i got that message on a compilation i did03:52
oni_can anyone help in VLC?03:52
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jake1and i am not sure exactly what to do with it03:52
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som1so get the includes03:52
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jake1is it jst called includes03:52
som1Randall64 anyway, netbsd is not new or something03:52
kadigiboxoni_, what you need help with on VLC?03:52
Madpilotwow, that's pathetic - somebody's already produced a "Win Vista" skinset for Opera 8... ick...03:52
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jake1apt-get install x includes?03:52
oni_I'm using ESD and it's not working with VLC03:52
som1killall esd03:52
Shinikakehi everyone03:52
cato_dcgarri, and this is my xorg.conf.. http://pastebin.com/32431103:53
MiMoSiN-someone has installed ieee80211?03:53
oni_anyone help?03:53
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black13what does dpkg-reconfigure do?03:53
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MiMoSiN-I am trying to upgrade my wireless card modules (ipw2200)03:53
Shinikakei'm having problems with my wireless as well.03:53
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jake1som1: wats the name of the package'03:54
jake1?03:54
arbirhi bob203:54
som1no idea03:54
som1im off03:54
dcgarrihey cato, thanks a ton!03:54
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caonexHello, my dad just installed ubuntu hoary, and after login into gnome, he got a problem with HAL, it says unable to initialize HAL, and he is only able to see the an empty desktop with a brown background and two empty bars, one at the top and one at the bottom. Basically, he is unable to do anything, why is htis? is there any way to fix it?03:55
arbiri am trying to turn off a service using update-rc.d. how do i specify the default number for that service ?03:55
arbir update-rc.d -n ppp stop 14 2 .003:55
arbirSystem startup links for /etc/init.d/ppp already exist.03:55
arbiranybody here ?03:56
Geekyep03:57
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arbirhi geek03:57
Geekhey03:57
arbirhow do you do ?03:58
ShinikakeI have a passphrase in place of a weap key, i've tried entering it in as "s:passphrase"  and i've tried converting it to hex values, but it still doesn't obtain an ip from the dhcp server.  i've tested the connection successfully using windows.  the error message i'm getting is: NO DHCPOFFERS received.  No working lleases in persistant database - sleeping.03:58
salapoliisican i install doom3 to 64bit ubuntu?03:58
Geeksure =)03:58
Geekim fine thanks and u?03:58
arbirGekk how do i disable a service in Ubuntu03:58
arbirupdate-rc.d keeps failing for me03:58
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HrdwrBoBsalapoliisi: no03:58
gpdarbir: try sysvconfig03:58
HrdwrBoBsalapoliisi: it's a 32bit program03:58
oni_how do I share IP?03:58
arbirok gpd03:58
Geek=)03:59
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oni_like the OS X command for sharing IP03:59
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salapoliisiHrdwrBoB: isnt there any way to run doom3 in 64bit ubuntu?03:59
|rockinnerd|salapoliisi, cedega?03:59
goldfishchroot it to a 32-bit evironment.03:59
arbirsysvconfig03:59
arbirbash: sysvconfig: command not found03:59
gpdarbir: do apt-get install sysvconfig...03:59
salapoliisican you give me tutorial to make chroot 32bit?03:59
arbirgpd04:00
goldfishsalapoliisi: nope, the forums can.04:00
oni_anyone knows how to share iP?04:00
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salapoliisigoldfish: can you give me link to forums?04:00
gpdoni_: your question doesn't make sense...04:00
PurpleWurldthere is no "add" button in my 'networking' section under system configuration.  does anyopne know what may cause this?04:00
caonexHow can i fix ubuntu from saying failure initializing hal?04:01
arbirGet:1 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe dialog 1.0-20041222-1 [180kB] 04:01
arbirGet:2 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe sysvconfig 0.10 [23.4kB] 04:01
arbir----- is it ok to get from Universe ?04:01
gpdcaonex: check that dbus-1 is running04:01
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gpdarbir: yes04:01
PurpleWurldwho are you speaking to arbir?04:01
arbiri am talking to gpd PurpleWOrld04:02
arbiri miss chkconfig from redhat :-(04:02
arbirthis sysvconfig looks good.. but i like the CLI stuff.. not menu stuff04:02
PurpleWurldThe problem is, I cannot get internet access on that machine w/o wireless access :(.  I need to "add" the connection04:02
caonexgpd, i just installed a fresh new copy, running for the first time, why would it not be?04:02
oni_how I can share Internet coneccion with another computer connected to my lan?04:02
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truluxheya04:03
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gpdcaonex: possible hardware failiure, DVD problem / cd in drive... ???04:03
truluxanyone here has successfully set an iPod photo to work on Hoary with gtkpod?04:03
|rockinnerd|oni_: get a router :)04:03
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arbirgpd, thanks for this Util... looks cool.04:03
oni_and routerless?04:03
arbirbut i want to learn the hard way also :-). or else i miss linux04:04
arbirin fact Ubuntu04:04
|rockinnerd|net.ipv4.forward = 1 i think04:04
|rockinnerd|google it04:04
|rockinnerd|nvm brb04:04
gpdarbir: just hand edit the symlinks in /etc/rcX.d then ;)04:04
|rockinnerd|i've got it somewhere...04:04
jake1i hate compiling shit04:04
oni_net.ipv4.foward?04:04
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jake1i really wish there were more installers available04:04
gpdjake1: what are you trying to build?04:05
Geeklol its 4AM here in austria04:05
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jake1wireless assistant04:05
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jake1app for kde04:05
arbirgpd.. i could do that... but how do i determine that numbers04:05
|rockinnerd|oni_, you have to echo it to something in /proc04:05
jake1i keep missing something04:05
jake1like now i am missing libXext04:05
arbirfor example S14ppp would become K?PPP @ gpd04:06
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gpdarbir: the numbers are just the order they are started or stopped in...04:06
arbirright04:06
|rockinnerd|oni_: http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto/linux-share-internet.asp04:06
jake1and unfortunately finding half this shit ain't easy04:06
jake1gpd04:06
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frankjake1: well usually you can find everything you need to build on synaptic04:07
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|rockinnerd|oni_, http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/04:07
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jake1yea but i cnt type in libXext and get that04:08
jake1as it is not seemingly listed04:08
gpdjake1: why do you need wireless assistant?  if it is your router you should just be able to hand edit /etc/networking/interfaces with a few lines04:08
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frankdo searches in synaptic, its there!04:08
jake1gpd: but i cnt see all the other routers04:08
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jake1such as when i am in public wifi access areas04:09
|rockinnerd|s/my/his04:09
Randall64Who said that?04:09
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jake1gpd: how can i find out what i need to get to have libXext?04:09
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abarbacciahey guys - im having some issues with firefox - suddenly its not starting anymore04:10
Randall64jake1: apt-cache search is good, but apt-file is better04:10
frankjake1: the package is called libxext-dev04:10
gpdjake1: apt-cache search libXext04:10
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ToRTuReD_Xhowcome i can't use "sudo apt-get install amule"?04:10
Randall64abarb: Any errors in the xterm?04:10
abarbaccianope04:10
|rockinnerd|abarbaccia, have you upgraded it?04:10
frankToRTuReD_X: is universe enabled?04:10
abarbaccia|rockinnerd|, not that i know of - maybe actually...04:10
jake1frank: how does one know what package things of such refer to04:10
ToRTuReD_Xerm all repositories are04:10
flyingsolohey ya'll, my cd drive isnt working now and im a 100% newbie to ubuntu04:10
ToRTuReD_Xsays somethin bout broken packages04:11
Randall64The somethin is the important part.04:11
|rockinnerd|flyingsolo, define "doesn't work"04:11
frankjake1: you do a search for it in synaptic. and you always need the -dev one to compile with04:11
abarbacciaokay - removing firefox then installign it again04:11
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|rockinnerd|flyingsolo, are you new to just ubuntu, or linux in general?04:12
jake1i did a search with libXext and that returned no results04:12
jake1well i did package contents or something like that04:12
|rockinnerd|flyingsolo: wtf04:12
flyingsolonew to linux itself04:12
frankjake1: i did a search for libxext and got the right one04:12
Randall64argh, could this torrent be any slower?04:12
jake1i wish it would scan for everything i need to make sure i have them before it starts the process of ./configure04:13
ToRTuReD_XE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:13
ToRTuReD_XE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?04:13
ToRTuReD_Xwell04:13
arbir update-rc.d ppp start 14 2 .04:13
arbir System startup links for /etc/init.d/ppp already exist.04:13
ToRTuReD_Xalot of good sudo apt-get update did me04:13
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arbirwhy is this happening ?04:13
bimberiToRTuReD_X: close synaptic04:13
frankjake1: well that is what ./configure checks04:13
jake1ToRTuReD: quit synaptic04:13
ToRTuReD_Xoh04:13
ToRTuReD_Xlmao04:13
jake1that might help04:13
ToRTuReD_Xstupid me04:13
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ToRTuReD_X2nd time i've done that04:13
abarbacciaarbir, is the script +x04:13
jake1damn04:13
arbirlet me check abarbaccia04:13
jake1same message04:13
frankjake1: the package is called libxext-dev04:14
arbirlrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 13 2005-07-22 20:05 K14ppp -> ../init.d/ppp04:14
jake1checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... no04:14
jake1checking for libXext... no04:14
jake1configure: error: We need a working libXext to proceed. Since configure04:14
jake1can't find it itself, we stop here assuming that make wouldn't find04:14
jake1them either.04:14
ToRTuReD_XThe following packages have unmet dependencies:04:14
ToRTuReD_X  amule: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed04:14
ToRTuReD_X         Depends: libwxbase2.6 but it is not going to be installed04:14
ToRTuReD_X         Depends: libwxgtk2.6 but it is not going to be installed04:14
ToRTuReD_X         Depends: amule-common (= 2.0.3-2) but it is not going to be installed04:14
ToRTuReD_XE: Broken packages04:14
jake1frank i did that04:14
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ToRTuReD_Xbe nice :(04:14
reneHello? Hi, I'm new to Ubuntu, just got it a couple of days ago...04:14
abarbacciarene welcome04:15
jake1not exactly as simple as clicking an icon and making the damn thing install automatically04:15
reneIs this the Support?04:15
abarbacciaTech support04:15
abarbaccialol04:15
arbirabarbaccia: did you see that ?04:15
reneThanks abar!04:15
renelol04:15
MadpilotToRTuReD_X: you using the us repositories? they might still be fubar'd04:15
jake1it would be so much easier if there was one distro of Linix04:15
jake1Linux*04:15
Madpilotrene: we can probably fake it...04:15
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abarbacciaarbir, yea - i see that - try executing the script right now- does it run04:15
frankToRTuReD_X: what repositories do you have enabled?04:15
reneWell, er, I'm having trouble with two things. If someone can help me (sorry for being such a newbie)04:15
abarbacciawait - arbir what is your problem exactly04:15
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ToRTuReD_Xfrank04:16
ToRTuReD_Xevery repository is enabled04:16
arbiri want to set the ppp to start using update-rc.d04:16
jake1i got the libXext-dev but i still get the message saying checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... no04:16
jake1checking for libXext... no04:16
jake1configure: error: We need a working libXext to proceed. Since configure04:16
jake1can't find it itself, we stop here assuming that make wouldn't find04:16
jake1them either.   frank04:16
frankjake1: yeah I'm not sure about that04:16
ed1tjake1, why there should be only one distro? linux is all about choices04:16
ed1tunlike windows...got stuck with wat u get04:17
frankToRTuReD_X: you should'nt have debian unstable repos enabled, do you?04:17
ed1tchoices and customization04:17
jake1well yes but unfortunately there are so many choices it makes it complicated to choose the right one04:17
oni_I downloaded Firestarter, but, my iMac conected to the hub... how do I give internet to him?04:17
Madpilotubuntu is the right one ;)04:17
jake1see like i cnt even get a simple app to compile + install04:18
arbirabarbaccia: i think update-rc.d works only for installation and removal... not to change the status of a script from start to stop or vice versa04:18
arbirabarbaccia: thats what i see04:18
jake1if there was one simple distro they would just have an installer and you would click it and viola it would do it all automatically04:18
Madpilotrene: don't ask to ask, just ask...04:18
ToRTuReD_Xfrank - i had one selected that i had added to repos04:18
abarbacciaarbir, the way update-rc.d works is that on the runlevels that are booting your machine (like 2 for example) it starts the script.  on levels that are shutting down your machine (like 6) its killing the script - thas what 'defaults' does04:19
frankToRTuReD_X: if you installed libraries with the debian one, you should try to revert them to ubuntu versions of the same04:19
renelol, er I can't seem to make any songs work on totem. The error message says There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///home/rene/Desktop/Ill%20Nino%20-%20Letting%20Go.mp3", you might need to install the corresponding plugins04:19
arbirok abarbaccia here is my question.....04:19
bob2jake1: but that would require work from the developers04:19
bob2jake1: ie someone to package it for ubuntu04:19
vader1102Madpilot: do you find you repeat a lot?...lol, don't ask to ask lol, have I seen that befor?....hmmmmm04:19
arbirabarbaccia: i have an init script in rc2.d which is called S14ppp04:19
arbirabarbaccia: i want to stop it04:19
bob2jake1: you can join #ubuntu-motu and help it get into ubuntu have that one-click-install04:20
abarbacciaarbir, you just dont want it to start?04:20
arbirabarbaccia:  no....04:20
arbirabarbaccia: i dont want ppp to start up at rc2.d04:20
Madpilotvader1102: it's worth repeating - lots of noobs just come in, say, "um i got a question" and then don't post anything useable...04:20
jake1well for now is there ANYONE who can help me get the right stuff to get this wireless assistant app to install04:20
abarbacciaarbir, right, you just dont want it starting in runlevel 204:20
frankrene: gstearmer0.8-mad04:20
arbirabarbaccia: u got me04:21
arbirin fedora i would do chkconfig04:21
vader1102true lol... I am just sitting here having a beer for the 1rst time in over a year04:21
jake1the last message i got was "checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... no04:21
jake1checking for libXext... no04:21
jake1configure: error: We need a working libXext to proceed. Since configure04:21
jake1can't find it itself, we stop here assuming that make wouldn't find04:21
jake1them either."04:21
abarbacciaso that file in rc2.d is only a simlink to the actual script - you can delete the link04:21
bob2rene: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:21
frankrene: you need gstreamer0.8-mad04:21
nJessi have a problem04:21
bob2jake1: do not paste things in here04:21
reneThank you!04:21
abarbacciasudo rm rc2.d04:21
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bob2jake1: also, sudo aptitude install build-essential xlibs-dev04:21
bob2jake1: then go to #kubuntu04:21
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jake1bob2 yea kubuntu is not very helpful04:21
nJessi finally got my laptop working on ubuntu, but the processor won't clock down, so i have poor battery life, how do i make my processor clock down?04:21
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bob2shock!04:21
arbirabarbaccia: i dont want to delet that link.. at a later stage i might want to enable that service again04:21
Jet2k5jake1: lol I just got back from there it's dead silence for like 3 hours04:22
arbirabarbaccia: just disable it in rc2.d04:22
bob2nJess: you're using the default kernel?04:22
DAC1138nJess, rebuild the kernel, but you cant in ubuntu04:22
bob2nJess: and it was a default install?04:22
frankarbir: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/scriptname04:22
DAC1138nJess, ive tried so many times, it just wont work04:22
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nJessbob2, yup, default install04:22
frankarbir: to disable the script from being executable04:22
arbirfrank... is there not chkconfig style doing it ?04:22
abarbacciaarbir, if you delete the link, it wont start at runlevel 2, to enable it again just run the rcupdate command again or recreate the link04:22
bob2nJess: and a default kernel?04:23
nJessim using the newest hoary kernel04:23
DAC1138bob2, obviously, iv he just did an install04:23
DAC1138if*04:23
ToRTuReD_Xman04:23
arbircani do ... chkconfig 2 ppp off04:23
abarbacciaarbir, at boot it simply goes through the directory and exectues every link thats sitting in that folder - update-rc.d is a tool made for your convenience so you dont have to make them all yourself04:23
frankarbir: there is ubuntu boot manager (ubm) that might do it. I don't know chkconfig04:23
jake1yea Jet2k5 i noticed that04:23
ToRTuReD_Xi'd hate to format and set this up like i do windows04:23
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ToRTuReD_Xformatting linux would be a pain in the ass to get it back to the way you had it04:24
ToRTuReD_X;/04:24
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arbirright04:24
DAC1138nJess, mine has the same problem, and my fan wont turn off04:24
nJessbob2, im using the newest hoary kernel04:24
jake1i agree ToRTuReD_X04:24
ToRTuReD_X:p04:24
DAC1138nJess, even when i set my laptop over the air vent on the floor where the cold cold air shoots up into the cpu fan, it wont shut off04:24
jake1i should get breezy04:24
ToRTuReD_Xnow smoke time wille i wait for xine-ui to install04:24
rob^jake1, no04:24
ToRTuReD_Xbom bom bommmmm04:24
frankToRTuReD_X: its not that big a deal if you have a separate /home partition04:24
DAC1138jake1, you should, and b0rk your system04:25
bob2DAC1138: no, not obviously04:25
hondjewhere does gnome store screen resolution in the conf editor?04:25
frankjake1: no04:25
jake1ok then04:25
jake1i won't04:25
ToRTuReD_Xi need wine or vmware so i can run photoshop04:25
bob2nJess: what does linuxlaptops.net say about support for your laptop?04:25
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rob_parbir:  The Ubuntu equivalent to chkconfig is update-rc.d.  Read up on it.  It's not too difficult.04:25
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jake1i wish ./configure would just pick up right before the previous error message instead of waiting all over again04:25
nJessbob2, i have no clue, what is that site?04:25
ToRTuReD_Xmy life depends on photoshp and gimp is a cheap replacement with none of the features04:25
arbirrob_p: i have been working on that... i keep getting an error04:25
rob_parbir:  what sort of error?04:26
bob2nJess: go look?04:26
hondjeThen use photoshop04:26
arbirrob_p:  update-rc.d ppp start 14 2 .04:26
arbir System startup links for /etc/init.d/ppp already exist.04:26
linuxnewbiecould someone help me? I am new to Linux and for some reason, I cannot see my other hard drive04:26
hondjeOr end your life, I suppose that's a viable option04:26
vader1102try inkscape dude04:26
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abarbacciaToRTuReD_X, i've heard gimp is very  close (different names and locations of tools) but the only thing its lacking is the color palets linked to specific printers - like the color matching which makes PS so expensive04:26
bob2linuxnewbie: "see"?  you'll have to mount it before you can do anything with it.04:26
nJessbob2, that is not a real website04:26
linuxnewbieok, how would I do that?04:26
DAC1138bob2, linuxlaptops.net isnt up anymore04:27
rob_parbir:  so if it already exists, why are you trying to add it?04:27
bob2nJess: http://www.linux-laptop.net/04:27
MadpilotToRTuReD_X: i've also heard that PS is one of the things that runs badly - if at all - in wine - but haven't confirmed it...04:27
bob2ubotu: laptop is http://www.linux-laptop.net/04:27
ubotubob2: okay04:27
arbirrob_p: i want to disbaled that service04:27
oni_can anyone help me with firestarter internet sharing?04:27
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arbirrob_p: *disbale04:27
rob_parbir:  then do a, "update-rc.d -f ppp remove"04:28
hondjedoes anyone know where the screen resolution is kept in gnome? I'm trying to write a script using gconftool-2, but can't find it04:28
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oni_mmm=04:28
oni_mm?04:28
arbirrob_p what does remove do ? will it delete the script from that directory?04:28
nJessbob2, it says nothing at all04:28
linuxnewbiehow do you mount a slave hard drive?04:28
Randall64hondje: Are you sure it is kept in gnome?04:28
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hondjeRandall64: The screen resolution capplet can set it, so I'd assume so04:29
rob_parbir:  the same thing that "chkconfig --del ppp" would do on a Red Hat/Mandrake system... it removes it from the run levels...04:29
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oni_anyone knows how to share internet with Firestarter?04:29
Randall64hondje: Maybe it doesn't exist until you have changd it from the normal resolution (guess)04:29
bob2nJess: that's not very encouraging04:29
bob2oni_: er, there's a wizard for that04:29
nJesswell04:29
rob_parbir:  the script itself stays intact within the /etc/init.d/ directory but the symlinks are removed.  Understand?04:29
nJessit has similar laptops04:29
bob2linuxnewbie: www.,ubuntuguide.org04:30
oni_but its not working with me04:30
reneThank you for the HELP!!!!04:30
hondjeit allows one to set the default resolution, so I was thinking that it querys that value somewhere and sets it since the 'default' can be independant of xorg provided xorg allows it to exist04:30
nJessmy laptop is not a real single model number you see, bob2, it is a combination of parts of an acer aspire 1360 and an acer aspire 152004:30
arbirrob_p: i dont wan tto --del ppp04:30
arbiri want to do this04:30
jake1come on so damn close04:30
arbirchkconfig 2 ppp off04:30
bob2oni_: so, instead of asking how o do it, explain in what way it isn't working04:30
arbirdo you see what i am aiming at ?04:30
rob_parbir:  What do you want to do?04:30
bob2arbir: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*ppp04:30
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bob2nJess: er, ok then04:31
hondjeah HAH, found it04:31
thespiritoftalis Breezy Badger better than Hoary Hedgehog?04:31
nJessbob2, the most important informational bit i got is this, and it was for slackware04:31
bob2thespiritoftal: no04:31
nJessbob2, to use cpufreq you have to enable the ACPI interface (all the modules processor, fan, battery, ac etc. are needed) and the powernow-k8 module for 64 bit Athlon processor and choose the cpufreq policy (I use userspace).04:31
arbirbob2: why do we want to remove it ? why cant we just call it K14ppp ?04:31
frankthespiritoftal: no, not yet04:31
jedixcan someone help me with an nvidia problem with doom3?04:31
bob2arbir: ? removing a symlink is how yo udisable services from starting04:31
arbircant we make update-rc.d just disable a script and not delete it from that directory04:32
bob2nJess: and is the powernow-k8 module loaded?04:32
frankjedix: what is the problem?04:32
nJessbob2, i don't know how04:32
bob2arbir: it's not a script, it's a symlink04:32
bob2nJess: lsmod04:32
bob2nJess: look at the output04:32
jake1in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.04:32
jake1So, check this please and use another prefix!04:32
jake1wtf?04:32
jedixI get the errr "api mismatch the kernel modules is version 1.0.7667, but this library is 1.0.7174"..04:32
arbirbob2: what at a later date, i want to enable my service at that run level, and i wont even know that this service would go at that run level04:32
oni_well I have just one ethernet card, eth0, whose is connected to a hub, where the internet its uplink, and in the hub I have an iMac connected too, how do I share just like OS X?04:32
frankarbir: deleting the symlink is disabling it04:32
jedixfrank: see above04:32
bob2jake1: ? that's obviously correct, you didn't install them04:32
bob2jake1: kde-devel04:32
Randall64jedix: Make all your packages match ...04:33
bob2arbir: then use update-rc.d04:33
nJessbob2, no it is not04:33
thespiritoftalI have just installed ubuntu.. what do you think about its security? is a firewall needed? or a vulnerability scanner? and should i install an antivirus software?04:33
bob2arbir: you're obsessing over something utterly unimportant04:33
frankjedix: this is for the drivers from nvdia?04:33
bob2nJess: sudo modpeobre powernow-k804:33
hondjeif it helps anyone in the future, you can change default resolution with 'gconftool-2 --type string --set /desktop/gnome/screen/default/0/resolution <values>'04:33
jedixfrank: yes04:33
arbiri know deleting is disbaling.. or even renaming it to anything else but S* is disabling it04:33
arbirbob2 i am getting errors update-rc.d04:33
arbiragrees with bob204:33
jedixRandall64: which packages exactly? I installed the drivers from the nvidia website04:33
Randall64jedix: nvidia*04:34
nJessbob2, it is done04:34
frankjedix: did the nvidia installation script work well?04:34
arbiri am obsessed......but this is how i learn.. unless i am obsesses i dont ever learn :-) sorry bob204:34
jedixfrank: yes04:34
jedixI can run it again..04:34
hondjethespiritoftal: You don't really need much unless you decide to run a webserver or something04:34
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Randall64jedix: I'd use the debs myself (and do)04:34
HrdwrBoBhondje: I just realised, is there a way to turn that off04:34
jedixbut there are packages installed from apt that are nvidia.. maybe remove them?04:34
hondjejust don't run scripts from sources you don't trust04:34
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dooonzif i have an old computer with only a serial mouse port can i install a usb card and hook up a usb mouse to it04:34
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thespiritoftalthanks hondje04:34
HrdwrBoBhondje: because I'll be running an NFS /home on multiple PCs with different resolution04:34
hondjeHrdwrBoB: Sorry, turn what off?04:34
nJessbob2, what shall i do now?04:35
Randall64doonz: It probably doesn't even have pci (so no)04:35
dcgarrialright... i need basic info if anyone has the patience04:35
HrdwrBoBthe gnome resolution setter04:35
frankjedix: thats right did you remove the ubuntu nvidia driver package?04:35
hondjeHrdwrBoB: oh, interesting04:35
HrdwrBoBit automatically runs when you login04:35
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bob2nJess: load the module...04:35
dooonzit does tho04:35
jedixfrank: I'll try that.04:35
thespiritoftalwhen a new version is released will we be able to upgrade it using synaptic?04:35
nJesshow?04:35
HrdwrBoBI imagine you can stop it loading, but I think there should be a gconf option04:35
hondjeHrdwrBoB: so /home is exported, but xorg.conf is local to each client?04:35
bob2nJess: with the command I gave you already...04:35
Randall64dooonz: crazy, but yes then04:35
HrdwrBoBhondje: yeah04:35
dooonzok04:35
dooonzthanx04:35
nJessmodprobe? i did that04:35
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dcgarriI don't even know how to execute an rpm file04:36
vader1102|wow| I forgot how it feels to be kidless, I have gotten more done tonight than I have in the past week lol(bed early tonight)04:36
hondjeHrdwrBoB: nice question .... hmm04:36
HrdwrBoBhondje: one ws will be 2560x1024 and others will be 1024x768, others again different04:36
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bob2nJess: and restart cpufreqd04:36
hondjeHrdwrBoB: I guess you could set a start/stop script in gnome to blank that string, forcing it to get it from xorg04:36
nJessbob2, now?04:36
nJesshow*04:37
HrdwrBoBhondje: yeah there's a few ways to work around it04:37
boo_boohi04:37
hondjesomething like 'gconftool-2 --type string --unset /desktop/gnome/screen/default/0/resolution'04:37
bob2nJess: sudo invoke-rc.d cpufreqd restart04:37
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black13what would cause "xinit: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6 cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory " the file is present in the directory /usr/X11R6/lib/04:37
HrdwrBoBI just realised it when I was envisioning my master plan for a ridiculously overspecced home network04:37
bob2black13: you're using breezy, right?04:38
jedixthanks guys, now it faults on trying to use OSS04:38
Amaranthoops04:38
hondjeor --recursive-unset, blank out the refresh rate value04:38
hondjebut that's all I can think of offhand, HrdwrBoB04:38
nJessbob2, /etc/init.d/cpufeqd not found04:38
bob2nJess: that's not what I said04:39
HrdwrBoBcheers anyway04:39
black13bob2 hoary04:39
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nJessbob2, i typed what you said, it gave me that output04:39
bob2black13: and how have you changed it from the default install?04:39
jake1i like pizza04:39
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ToRTuReD_Xgrr04:39
bob212:37:30 @         bob2 | nJess: sudo invoke-rc.d cpufreqd restart04:39
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bob212:38:47          nJess |  bob2, /etc/init.d/cpufeqd not found04:39
jedixactually it is seg faulting :(04:39
ToRTuReD_Xubuntu hates me04:39
black13bob2 massively04:39
nJessoh04:40
bob2black13: awesome04:40
nJessi typoed the replu04:40
hondjeHrdwrBoB: since your startup stuff is in /home anyway, it might just work by giving it first priority...be interesting to find out if gnome can switch resolution at that point04:40
arbirwhat is vbestate04:40
ToRTuReD_Xxmms and beep media player both freeze when i try to play music04:40
nJessreply04:40
nJessit is still not found04:40
arbirbob2: what is this service vbesave04:40
nJessbob2, /etc/init.d/cpufreqd not found04:40
bob2arbir: don't touch things you don't understand04:40
nevinToRTuReD_X: what audio plugin are you using?04:40
lcharly_TheOnei have problems with my sound card when i put a cd i can hear it but i can play mp304:40
bob2arbir: just leave it there, it's for helping suspend and resume work04:40
nevinlcharly_TheOne: that's the software you're using, not the card04:40
arbirok bob2.. i get it04:40
black13man i love bruce cambpel04:41
bob2nJess: sudo invoke-rc.d powernowd restart04:41
arbirbob2 where can i find more info on vbesave?04:41
boo_booneed some help, app installer will not open used apt-get to install. remove and re-install.  any thoughts?04:41
nJessok bob2, that worked04:41
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hybrid_gothis there a gopher program for ubuntu?04:41
nJesswhat now?04:41
ToRTuReD_Xnevin04:41
ToRTuReD_Xaudio plugin?04:41
lcharly_TheOnei'm using xmms and beep media player04:41
Randall64gopher?  come on now04:41
frankhybrid_goth: hehe04:41
bob2hybrid_goth: apt-cache search gopher04:41
nevinToRTuReD_X: press ctrl+p when you have xmms focussed04:42
black13bob2 any ideas04:42
Randall64Even universities can't be using gopher anymore.04:42
nevinToRTuReD_X: the output plguin should be in the lower half of the popup04:42
CMTheoryhow do i set up sound in cedega? (in on hoary with a working built in "sound card")04:42
nJesshey bob2, my fan just slowed down, does that mean it worked?04:42
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nevinlcharly_TheOne: what symptoms do you have?04:42
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arbiri see sysklogd and klogd both running.. are both required ?04:42
ToRTuReD_Xerm04:42
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ToRTuReD_Xdammit04:42
ToRTuReD_Xit's not closing04:43
ToRTuReD_X:/04:43
frankCMTheory: there is a config file somewhere where you can choose oss or alsa. look at the transgaming forums maybe04:43
nevinin a shell, type: killall xmms04:43
CMTheorytnx04:43
CMTheory-looking-04:43
lcharly_TheOnewhen i play mp3 its saids04:43
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bob2black13: not unless you explain what you did to it04:43
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bob2nJess: could be04:44
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bob2nJess: add powernow-k8 or whatever it was, on it's own line, to /etc/modules04:44
ray_hello04:44
bob2arbir: yes04:44
nothingssomethinhello bob204:44
lcharly_TheOneyour sound card isn't configured propetly04:44
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lcharly_TheOnedo you have selectes the output plugin correctly04:44
nevinlcharly_TheOne: open the preferences dialog (ctrl+p) and tell me which output plugin you're using04:44
arbirbob2 i am in the process of stopping unwanted services....04:44
arbirbob2 i dont have a printer so i want to stop cups04:45
bob2arbir: er, ok04:45
lcharly_TheOnelibtonege.so04:45
lcharly_TheOnelibcduadio.so04:45
nJessbob2, thanks04:45
lcharly_TheOnelibmpg123.so04:45
Kovecsesanybody know how to start a process in gnome as root when you start up?04:45
lcharly_TheOnelibvorbis.so04:45
nothingssomethinhow can i use synaptic to get samba with swat included ???04:45
black13bob2 basicall i made hoary chroot using debootstap ...04:45
arbirbob2 what is acpi for ? does it affect system performance ?04:45
lcharly_TheOnelibwav.so04:45
nothingssomethinhow can i use synaptic to get samba 3 with swat included ???04:45
nevinlcharly_TheOne: those are input plugins04:45
oni_there's any way to share internet connection just as Mac OS X do?04:45
nothingssomethinver 3 the new one04:45
bob2arbir: leave it04:46
black13bob2 then made the chroot bootable ...04:46
lcharly_TheOnesorry04:46
bob2Kovecses: what ae you trying to do?04:46
nevinlcharly_TheOne: there's a pull-down box labelled "Output Plugin"04:46
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bob2oni_: install firestarter04:46
lcharly_TheOneim using lib oss.so04:46
nevinlcharly_TheOne: choose "eSound Output Plugin [...] "04:46
Kovecsesbob2, to run enemy-territory you must do echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss as root04:46
hybrid_gothheh firefox can do gopher://04:47
oni_bob2: firestarter needs two Ethernet cards, and OS X can just share with one...04:47
lcharly_TheOnethaks04:47
lcharly_TheOnenevin,04:47
bob2oni_: that's nasty04:47
lcharly_TheOneits works04:47
nevinlcharly_TheOne: anytime04:47
Kovecsesbob2, i tried changing the permissions but it somehow changes them back?04:47
nothingssomethinmaybe someone can help me04:47
lcharly_TheOnei have another problem04:47
lcharly_TheOnewith my video card04:47
bob2Kovecses: just run it from the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh04:47
frankbob2: it is the solution that I found to04:47
lcharly_TheOneis an ATI radeon xpress 200m04:47
arbirbob2:  which services do you think i can safely remove... i see so many services most of which i dont understand04:47
oni_bob2: any other option?04:47
Kovecsesbob2, ok so just plug it at the end?04:48
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bob2arbir: I'd just leave them, since they don't use any ram anyway04:48
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arbirbob2 if that is th case.. i would leave it .. i was only scared about the ram that each service was occupying04:48
black13bob2 like i said it boots boots great but no xorg .. yet04:48
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bob2arbir: no, if they're unusued they will go into swap04:49
arbirbob2 sat for example. fetchmail....i dont use fetchmail04:49
bob2arbir: and it won't run unless you do04:49
lcharly_TheOneand the video is too slow04:49
arbirbob2 insttead of troubling you.. is there any link which you can provice me where i can read up about these services ?04:49
bob2"too slow"?04:50
bob2arbir: no04:50
arbir*provide*04:50
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gpdarbir: I removed a bunch of stuff I thought I didn't need... dbus-1 was one of them... after hours of HAL errors I realized dbus-1 was HAL!!!04:50
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arbirhmmm04:50
lcharly_TheOnei edit the xorg.conf and put the option  "noaccel"      "true"04:50
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arbirgpd: hmmmm04:50
hondjegpd: hehehe, nice04:50
nevinlcharly_TheOne: slow?  too few frames per scond?  what exactly do you mean?04:50
arbirwhat does dbus do ?04:50
arbirits got to do something with databus ?04:50
bob2no04:50
bob2just leave dbus, it\s essential these days04:51
nevinlcharly_TheOne: did it work with acceleration?04:51
lcharly_TheOneehen i open for exemple and internte browser04:51
sandisdoes anybody know what is segmentation fault (11) ???04:51
lcharly_TheOnedidn't04:51
hondjesandis: yes04:51
arbirbob2:  i may not be a super geek... but i would like to know about my system...04:51
bob2sandis: it means the program is buggy and got killed04:51
bob2sandis: or you have bad ram04:51
arbirbob2: is that wrong ?04:51
bob2arbir: no...04:51
sandishmm if its ram, how do i know?04:51
nothingis it true that the new samba 3 soupport active directory ?04:51
lcharly_TheOneand i goind down in the page it's too slow04:52
bob2sandis: you can reboot and run memtest8604:52
nevinlcharly_TheOne: sorry, its bloody late here, I'm off to sleep04:52
lcharly_TheOnei have so much problems with my lap04:52
bob2that will take many hours, tho04:52
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bob2nothing: it's not that new, but yes04:52
lcharly_TheOnespecialy with the amd turion 6404:52
lcharly_TheOnethere are no drivers for this proccessor04:53
sandisbob2: ok, ill try it04:53
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bob2lcharly_TheOne: your cpu needs drivers? why?04:53
lcharly_TheOnewhel no drivers sorry kernel04:53
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nothingdoes synaptic have it in it's reposotorys04:53
bob2lcharly_TheOne: sure there is, the k8 ones run fine04:53
ToRTuReD_Xk04:54
lcharly_TheOneyea thats wih im using04:54
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ToRTuReD_Xrebooting04:54
vergeofimpetussorry for all the nick changes04:54
bob2lcharly_TheOne: so in what sense does your cpu not have a driver?04:54
lcharly_TheOnebut the proccessos its always working on 50%04:54
bob2so it's being scaled down04:54
vergeofimpetussomeone had the nic that i wanted04:54
bob2feature, not a bug04:54
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lcharly_TheOnebut i see the process and there is not proccess using that04:55
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black13i feel like getting tore up04:55
lcharly_TheOneright now im coping files from cd to my hd and the computes is too slow04:55
arbirbob2 can i download the source and compile and install ?04:55
lcharly_TheOneand the procesor is working 100%04:55
bob2arbir: of what?04:56
bob2lcharly_TheOne: perhaps you don't have dma enabled04:56
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arbiri need to compile apache for a very specific config04:56
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jeboespflugquit04:56
etzerdhello room?04:56
bob2lcharly_TheOne: it'd be a lot easier if you pointed at specific issues like that, instead of saying "my cpu doesn't have drivers"04:56
bob2arbir: no you don't04:56
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etzerdcan anyone tell me how to install KDE in Unbuntu?04:56
bugz_anybody here have windows xp professional that i can copy... pls04:56
arbirhello etzerd04:56
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bob2etzerd: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop04:57
arbirbob2: then how can i customise certain modules in my apache ?04:57
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bob2arbir: explain what you want to do04:57
etzerdhello arbir04:57
etzerdthanks bob204:57
vergeofimpetuswhen i download samba in synaptic does it do any preconfigureing whatso ever? and will it have the SWAT04:57
lcharly_TheOnei don't understand you04:57
etzerdI uninstall Ubuntu for while now I forget the command04:57
etzerdthanks let me go back and install it04:57
arbirbob2 i need to enable digest , dso and other pluygins for my apache04:57
bob2lcharly_TheOne: maybe #ubuntu-es is a better place to ask04:57
bob2arbir: which ubuntu's apache already includes04:58
lcharly_TheOnei ask but nobody answer04:58
thoreauputicvergeofimpetus: swat - I think it doesn't04:58
bob2vergeofimpetus: it will run on a specific work group, yes04:58
Randall64awesome, hoary kernel deb corrupted04:58
arbirok ..and what if i dont want a certain module in my compilation which ubuntu includes ?04:58
Randall64This gets better and better.04:58
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bob2arbir: then don't load it04:58
Viorus|busywhat's the commando to show ip (sleepy)04:59
thoreauputicvergeofimpetus: you can install swat from the universe repo04:59
arbiri need apache to be configured for PHP with mysql and pgsql both04:59
Randall64ifconfigo04:59
bimberiViorus|busy: ifconfig04:59
bob2arbir: again, no need to compile anything04:59
bob2Viorus|busy: or "ip a"04:59
Viorus|busybob2 ifconfig was what I had on mind, thx=)05:00
arbirok bob2.... i want mysql 5.0 beta..... i really need to test it for our stuff here05:00
arbirand it has to work with php05:00
bob2arbir: then go install that yourself05:00
Randall64Someone stop me from just beating the shit out of this peecee.05:00
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Randall64It's just not worth this.05:00
bob2and any plan depending on a beta version of mysql seems doomed05:00
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arbirbob2 its not for production05:01
efigyidolarbir: try #apache05:01
bob2still05:01
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arbiri need to eval it and write a software for mysql 505:02
cddesjarwhat is the default bittorrent client include with ubuntu?  is it gnome torrent or gtorrent or something like that?05:02
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Madpilotis it possible to script a Gnome Launcher to run a java .jar file?05:03
jake1ok what does one usually do after "make install"05:03
jake1the readme file is blank05:03
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black13bob2 are you there?05:04
bob2Madpilot: of course, they can run whatever you want05:04
cddesjarwhat is the default bittorrent client include with ubuntu?  is it gnome torrent or gtorrent or something like that?05:04
thoreauputicjake1: make install is the final step - you can run the program after that05:04
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bob2cddesjar: no need to repeat05:04
arbirbob2:  also does the default install of apache support asp.net with mono ?05:04
bob2apt-cache search gnome torrent05:04
bob2arbir: nope05:04
bob2arbir: use xsp and mod_proxy05:04
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jake1thoreauputic: do i have to be in a specific directory to run the program?05:05
arbirhmm.... bob2 are they all DDO modules ?05:05
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bob2DSO05:05
bob2and no, xsp is not05:05
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arbirbob2:  i mean, after i install apache, can i just plug int the mono-module and start wowrking with asp.net05:05
thoreauputicjake1: no, - provided it is in your $PATH ( echo $PATH to see)05:05
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bob2afaik there is no asp.net module for apache205:05
vinuxwoot! I've got some ubuntu cds in the mail and i've been handing them out. Soon we will rule the world! muhahha well no not really :)05:05
black13its xauth that fails05:05
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arbirwell than i can use the apache1.x version as long as it works for me05:06
Madpilotbob2: how complete does the path have to be? "java -jar home/brian/Arachnophilia/Arachnophilia.jar" doesn't seem to be launching it...05:06
arbirI need to do a lot of testing before i host my stuff at a data center05:06
bob2arbir: then you'll need to use apache105:06
thoreauputicjake1: most compiled progs put the executable in /usr/local/bin , which is in the default path05:06
bob2black13: are you really using hoary?05:06
QMarioIs there a way I can speed up the time Mozilla Firefox takes to load a web page?05:06
bob2Madpilot: that path is never going to be valid05:06
bob2Madpilot: /home/biran/ ...05:07
black13bob2 yes is it bad05:07
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Madpilotbob2: what's wrong with it? it's what Nautilus is displaying... ?05:07
bimberiMadpilot: leading /05:07
arbiris gone for dinner05:07
jasoncohenQMario, yes, there is05:08
Madpilotah, thnx. it works now!05:08
AndaresHmm...05:08
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QMarioJasoncohen, how?05:08
jasoncohenQMario, follow these instructions - http://www.techsupportforum.com/computer/topic/48821-1.html05:08
AndaresWhat package name would "libmp.so" be distributed under?05:08
jasoncohenQMario, it can signifigantly reduce page loading time05:08
bob2!+find libmp.so05:08
Andares!find libmp.so05:08
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'libmp.so' (2 shown): (/usr/lib/libmp.so) in libdevel/libgmp3-dev ;; (/usr/lib/{libmp.so.3|libmp.so.3.1.7}) in libs/libgmp3.05:09
Andarescoolies!05:09
bob2there you go05:09
jasoncohenQMario, also, i find the performance of the official firefox build to be faster. It has less dependencies and is a lighter build05:09
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'libmp.so' (2 shown): (/usr/lib/libmp.so) in libdevel/libgmp3-dev ;; (/usr/lib/{libmp.so.3|libmp.so.3.1.7}) in libs/libgmp3.05:09
bob2note the .so itself is only useful for compiling things05:09
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jedixhrm05:09
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jasoncohenanyone else notice that the official firefox builds are faster than the ubuntu builds? i only notice this with ubuntu & backport firefox packages- not with debian builds05:10
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jasoncohencould be some of the extra features compiled in05:10
ray_can anybody recomend a good cd burning app for gnome that burns iso's and vcd's?05:10
Madpilotray_: Gnomebaker05:10
bob2ray_: nautilus burns iso images just fine05:10
ray_Maddy, doesnt burn vcd's05:11
ray_Maddy, like k3b05:11
AMCDeathKnightHoww can I get my computer to email me its ip address whenver it changes?05:11
jasoncohenif you need to burn video DVDs or VCDs you're better off with k3b05:11
Madpilotray_: video CD? never tried, actually...05:11
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ray_yeah i will prob end up using k3b05:11
jake1:-\05:11
black13bob2 crap i have forgoten what is the config that shows the library dependecies05:12
bob2AMCDeathKnight: it'd be easier to install ddclient05:12
bob2black13: ldd05:12
black13yep05:12
bob2tho I think that's not always accurate05:12
AMCDeathKnightwhats ddclient?05:12
bob2but I forget how to use objdump05:12
bob2AMCDeathKnight: look at it in synaptic or aptitude05:12
QMarioThank you,  jasoncohen! :)05:12
AMCDeathKnightok05:13
zerboxxwhat is the command to see keycodes as they're being pressed?05:13
thoreauputicAMCDeathKnight: or do " apt-cache show ddclient05:13
jasoncohenQMario, np, do you notice an improvement?05:13
thoreauputiczerboxx: xev05:13
jasoncohenQMario, try downloading the official firefox build. i bet you'll see an improvement between pages. the ubuntu build seems to "freeze" for a second before switching pages05:13
jasoncohenyou'll probably also see an even greater improvement with deerpark alpha 205:14
AMCDeathKnightis that like no-ip service?05:14
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bob2AMCDeathKnight: sort of05:14
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Jet2k5Who in here is using Kubuntu?05:15
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jake1ok... how do i launch a program using sudo05:15
zerboxxthoreauputic: Thanks :)05:15
paxJet2k5: #kubuntu to find out05:15
thoreauputicJet2k5: probably a few - you might find more in #kubuntu05:16
drewis there anyway to make the videos played in MPlayer bigger?  I know that windows media player blows them up to 8 times their size, but mplayer just leaves them the way they originally are, is there any way I can make the video bigger?05:16
jake1i am in the right directory05:16
jake1and i cnt figure out how to launch the executable05:16
Jet2k5pax: no they are dead in there05:16
Jet2k5thoreauputic: they are dead in there05:16
paxI'm not dead05:16
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drew3Hi All,  I am interested in xinerama support (2+ monitors) in Kububtu. Is it well suported?  I see drew beat me here with "my" name!! (-:05:17
thoreauputicjake1: youdon't launch from the directory - just type 'sudo <command>' from anywhere normally05:17
frankdrew change the video output setting05:17
thoreauputicjake1: what are you trying to execute?05:17
drewfrank, how do I do this?05:17
jake1thoreauputic it installed to /usr/local/kde/bin05:17
jake1and it is the only file in there05:18
frankdrew go in preferences0> video and choose xv05:18
jake1i cded to that directory and typed in05:18
thoreauputicjake1: ah, well type the full path05:18
jake1sudo sh wlassistant05:18
jake1well i am in the directory05:18
thoreauputicyou don't need to cd to the dir - just use tab complete to type the path05:18
auk!mountntfs05:19
ubotuauk: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about05:19
auk!mountwindows05:19
ubotusomebody said mountwindows was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:19
QMarioJasoncohen, where should I install Mozilla Firefox into?05:19
nickruddrew, you probably want to change /etc/mplayer.conf; change the vo=x11 to vo=xv05:19
IIIEarsbob2 - Hi - Had a problem yesterday. Xchat was logged in as root and only appearing intermittantly. each time with a different PID# (41,400 - 41,800)  Can only guess it was uber-newber he asked for info on sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and displayed his screen output on my screen.  -  How do you prepare for something like that? Track a periodic connection?05:19
jedixalright this doom3 problem is really pissing me off.05:19
frankjake1: did you get your thing to compile?05:19
|QuaD-my xlibs in breezy is still broken... good thing i have a laptop!05:19
thoreauputicjake1: then do  sudo ./<command> (note the dot slash)05:19
|QuaD-and can use that insteadof this05:19
jake1it says cannot execute binary file... however when i go to that file in KDE i see the app and i click on it05:19
nickruddrew, sorry, it's /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf05:19
jake1it launches05:19
jake1but it says i did not run it as sudo05:19
jedixcan someone help me with a segfault of doom3? http://jebus.ca/Linux/doom3.txt05:19
jake1so it will not function properly05:19
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bimberijake1: try leaving out the "sh"05:20
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jake1interesting05:20
jake1that working05:20
jake1that worked*05:20
jake1:-\05:20
jake1no wireless networks found05:20
jake1except that i am on one now05:20
jake1so it should find something05:20
thoreauputicjake1: you'll save a lot of bother if you symlink it into your path05:20
bob2IIIEars: xchat on your machine was running as root?05:21
jake1i hope it supports my airport card05:21
bob2is it airport extreme?05:21
jake1bob2 nope05:21
drewokay thanks, it worked05:21
jake1it's the original05:21
frankjedix: I think graphics is your problem. you will also have to change sound to oss because alsa is not working05:21
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syndnalioth: you alive?05:22
jedixfrank: alsa works in mplayer, and I've tried removing all drivers and reinstalling them in combinations with no success05:22
jasoncohenQMario, you can install it in /home/firefox-installer05:23
jake1first i need this damn program to pick up networks05:23
frankjedix: what does glxinfo | grep direct give you?   I had to use oss for doom3 too even though most things do work with alsa05:23
jake1that would be nice05:23
jasoncohenQMario, it doesn't really matter where you install it- but if it's in /home, only your user can use it which may or may not be a problem05:24
jake1they left me a fucking blank readme file05:24
jedixfrank: says "no"05:24
jasoncohenQMario, otherwise you can install it in /opt05:24
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frankjedix: then you don't have 3d acceleration05:24
jedixfrank: actually05:24
jedixfrank: sorry, I'm ssh'ed in and when I actually try it on the box, it says yes05:25
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frankjedix: well are you trying to run doom3 ssh'd in????05:25
jedixbut I guess glxinfo is being piped back here05:25
jedixfrank: no, I just didn't want to leave my big screen sitting on the desktop05:26
QMarioJasoncohen, how do I uninstall the old firefox?05:26
efigyidolwhats the default cron daemon for ubuntu?05:26
frankok, I don't really know what the problem is though... what is your video card? and what drivers are you using?05:27
jedixI reverted back to the nvidia drivers off thier website05:27
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jasoncohenQMario, you don't have to05:27
jasoncohenQMario, they're installed in completely different locations and can co-exist just fine05:27
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jasoncohenif you don't see a performance improvement just go back to the ubuntu version. the upgrade process is easier05:28
kristen_i just installed ubuntu; how do you log into root?05:28
jedixit's an amd64 box, with an nvidia card05:28
syndkristen_: you dont need to05:28
jedixfx5700le I think05:28
jasoncohenkristen_, you don't. there is no root account. if you want administrative access use sudo05:28
thoreauputic!root05:28
shuvebkristen_, use sudo05:28
ubotuit has been said that root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:28
syndkristen_: sudo takes care of all your root needs05:28
kristen_k, thanks05:28
frankjedix:  you have the 32bit version of Ubuntu?05:29
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jedixfrank: no, 6405:29
black13xauth fails because its failing to load libXauth.so05:29
frankwell you can't run doom3 directly like that05:29
jedixfrank: why not?05:29
frankjedix: do you have a chroot?05:29
frankjedix: because doom3 is 32 bit05:30
jedixfrank: not setup in any way05:30
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jedixfrank: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/#head-9436e887158eec0b0ce52087c9c953561748c5be05:30
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jedixI thought that meant it would work05:30
f4phantom2500hi05:30
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sbatten2Whats the best ftp server in ubuntu.05:30
root__help me i screwed up my x config im on terminal plz05:30
f4phantom2500i had a quick ?05:30
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sbatten2something preferably easy and with a gtk GUI =)05:31
benplautroot__: sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg05:31
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benplautusually works :)05:31
f4phantom2500i need to move some codecs into a directory but i can only do it if im logged it says i dont have the right priveleges or something05:31
fr500wow, ubuntu has awesome bluetooth phone support05:31
frankjedix: either you switch to Ubuntu32 (easy solution) or you set up a 32chroot (a whole 32bit linux inside the 64bit one)05:31
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sbatten2i'm looking in synaptic but there are sooo many choices, I've never set up a ftp server in linux, just windows05:31
thoreauputicroot__: and don't IRC as root - it's a security risk05:31
f4phantom2500it says i dont have the right priveleges or something*05:32
jedixfrank: that sucks :/05:32
f4phantom2500i think i have to log in as root and do it but idk how05:32
frankjedix: yeah 64bit linux can't run 32bit programs without alot of hand-holding05:32
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black13hey guess what i need /sbin/ldconfig05:33
jasoncohenis webmin really considered that bad? i find the ssh & cron job tools pretty good05:33
thoreauputicricosuave17: changing your nick doesn't alter the fact that you are root ;)05:33
IIIEarsthoreauputic - I need a pointer on tracking intermittant connections from a co-opted machine. - Can you help?05:33
jasoncohenwhy can't someone patch webmin in universe to work with sudo?05:34
jedixfrank: what's the point of /lib32 then?05:34
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thoreauputicIIIEars: I doubt it - I don't know much about that05:34
bob2f4phantom2500: no, you use sudo05:34
bob2f4phantom2500: sudo cp *.dll /usr/lib/win32/05:34
ricosuave17i know that05:34
ricosuave17but help me plz05:34
auk!rhythymbox mp305:34
ubotuauk: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:34
ricosuave17im deing05:34
IIIEarsbob2 - Hi - Had a problem yesterday. Xchat was logged in as root and only appearing intermittantly. each time with a different PID# (41,400 - 41,800)  Can only guess it was uber-newber he asked for info on sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and displayed his screen output on my screen.  -  How do you prepare for something like that? Track a periodic connection?05:35
auk!rhythmbox mp305:35
ubotuauk: I give up, what is it?05:35
ddavei05:35
thoreauputicIIIEars: you established that from yesterday? We were talking about it I recall ...05:35
auk!rhythmbox05:35
ubotuauk: I give up, what is it?05:35
ricosuave17i dont know what to do05:35
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ricosuave17ito fix my x server05:35
auk!info rhythmbox  ?05:35
ricosuave17does someone use irssi in here05:35
auk!info rhythmbox05:35
uboturhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-7ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 1517 kB, Installed size: 4268 kB05:35
aukok...05:35
frankjedix: well some of the packages are the 32bit versions of the programs like openoffice. So technically, you might be able to force doom3 to use whats in lib32, but I have no idea how and I think its harder than setting up the chroot05:35
IIIEarsbob2 - I need a pointer on tracking intermittant connections from a co-opted machine. - Can you help?05:35
auk!rhythmbox mp305:35
ubotuauk: I don't know, could you explain it?05:35
auk!rhythmboxmp305:35
ubotuauk: I haven't a clue05:35
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aukhmm, anyone else knwo what package you need for rhythmbox to play mp3s?05:36
frankjedix: I used to use Ubuntu64 but I changed to Ubuntu32 because its SO much easier to deal with this kind of thing05:36
ricosuave17will someone plz help me05:36
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thoreauputicauk: gstreamer0.8-mad05:36
sandisauk - www.ubuntuguide.org05:36
black13bob2 ldconfig05:37
jedixfrank: I don't want to reinstall, I've already finished this game.. just wanted to see how it plays on my 51" hdtv05:37
jasoncohenauk, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad05:37
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auksandis: ...05:37
auk!ubuntuguide05:37
ubotuit has been said that ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.05:37
danielrrhiall05:37
aukhi05:38
danielrrhi all05:38
frankjedix: Ubuntu64 is fine if you don't want to play games, flash animations or wmv videos and other w32 formats05:38
IIIEarsubotu tell auk about codecs05:38
nickrudauk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats is meant to be the guide to enabling extra codecs and formats05:38
jedixfrank: so that's why wmv doesn't work05:38
jedixmust be a fix for this stuff05:38
frankjedix: yeah you can't use w32codecs with 64bit media players05:38
danielrranyone a expert with ubuntuinstalls05:39
aukthoreaputic, jasoncohen, thanks--it's not for me, i already installed it a while back, but it' sfor a friend, and i couldn't remember the package05:39
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IIIEarsfrank - you can but it is not easy. - chroot etc05:39
danielrranyone a expert with ubuntu installs05:39
ricky_help me plz05:39
bur[n] erjust ask your question danielrr05:39
jedixIIIEars: yeah, read scroll up :)05:39
bur[n] erlikewise ricky_05:39
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danielrrwell my install keeps halthing when it trys to  install gstreamer05:40
ricky_well i killed my xserver its completly dead i even used xfree and switched to xorg plz help me05:40
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AMCDeathKnightHey guys; can someone tell me how to get a gba emulator in ubuntu?05:41
rob^AMCDeathKnight, GNGB or Xmess-X05:42
IIIEarsricky - maybe someone would know if apt-get gnome-desktop or kubuntu-desktop would help. (100+mb d/l)05:42
AMCDeathKnightim in gnome05:42
ricky_yes all i did was try to change my x config everything else is in tact all the gnome and everything05:43
rob^AMCDeathKnight, they are both emulators you could use05:43
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Randall64Has anyone actually installed Hoary on amd64?05:43
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AMCDeathKnightgame boy advance not game bot05:43
AMCDeathKnight*boy05:43
Randall64All it does for me is power the machine down right after booting (after screwing up grub during the install)05:44
danielrrCan anyone help me?05:44
rob^AMCDeathKnight, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20841.html05:44
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thoreauputicdanielrr: your question isn't very clear05:45
fr500hello05:45
nickruddanielrr, the only thing that comes to mind, is that your cd burn may be bad. have you checked the md5sum?05:45
rob^heh05:45
fr500can i add entries to the snedto menu?05:45
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fr500sendto menu05:45
AMCDeathKnightgnome boy hmm05:46
AMCDeathKnightCan someone just tell me what i have to do05:46
rob^no05:46
AMCDeathKnightim new to linux and dont want to mess around05:46
rob^read that link05:46
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AMCDeathKnightI have05:46
IIIEarsRandall64 - It is a long shot but parts of #ubuntu are logged on a website. maybe-maybe there is a way to use them by googling the screen names used here.05:46
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danielrrWell I got this same error from cd that I got directly from ubuntuas well as with burned copy05:47
ricky_anyone going to help me plz05:47
vinuxwhat's an easy way to change the color in the title bar in gnome?05:47
rob^AMCDeathKnight, sudo apt-get install gnomeboyadvance05:47
StyxHow do I get an input plugin so that xine can play DVDs?05:47
rob^easy :)05:47
AMCDeathKnightarh05:47
AMCDeathKnightlol05:47
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frankStyx: you probably need libdvdcss205:47
thoreauputic!multimedia05:47
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia05:47
IIIEarsxine-ui  ??05:48
nickruddanielrr, then, that is nicely strange, gstreamer is not exaclty an unknown quantity05:48
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IIIEarsvlc videolan is another very nice player for DVDs05:48
AMCDeathKnightvlc is neat05:48
BitterGeekIt seems weird that both a pressed CD and an ISO image yields the same Sig11 with gstreamer.05:49
rob^thoreauputic, that page is such a duplication of effort..05:49
robotgeekvlc is very nice!05:49
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IIIEarscrossplatform also. = large developer communitty.05:49
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danielrrnickrud any sujestions05:49
BitterGeekvlc needs more interface work. too hackish05:49
nickrudgstreamer hasn't been a problem here, so BitterGeek , danielrr I05:49
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nickrud'm not sure05:49
linlinCan someone please explain what this guy means? I dont fully understand the terminology: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=235185&postcount=1305:50
bur[n] er totem is a great video player... now where's a good audio player :\05:50
bur[n] erbmp needs work05:50
rob^bur[n] er, bmp05:50
bur[n] er;)05:50
rob^bur[n] er, bmp is fine, you just have to add plugins05:50
sandisso i wrote this small c++ program and successfully built it. when i run it console claims that there is segmentation fault 11. what a hack?05:50
StyxI have xine-ui and libdvdcss205:50
bob2IIIEars: on irc? I don't understand your question05:50
bur[n] errob^: plugins arent' in ubuntu :\05:50
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bob2sandis: it means your program is buggy05:50
rob^bur[n] er, so?05:51
Madpilotbur[n] er: Muine, if you're playing albums05:51
=== bur[n] er wants crossfade, media library, and tray icon :)
sandisbob2: memory was ok05:51
BitterGeeklinlin: sounds like the guy was trying to get mythtv working w/ ubuntu?05:51
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linlinyes05:51
danielrris there away that I could have gstreamernobeinstalled?05:51
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bob2sandis: well, either it's buggy or you have bad ram05:51
sandisand what do you mean by buggy?05:51
AMCDeathKnightok i have gnomeboy thing05:51
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bob2danielrr: sure, by removing most of gnome.05:51
bur[n] errob^: takes a bit to compile a plugin and make it work :\05:51
AMCDeathKnightbut it wont get my games05:51
bob2danielrr: why would you not want it?05:51
bur[n] ernot exactly 'easy'05:51
sandisbob2: it compiled well05:51
bob2sandis: it's using memory incorrectly05:51
rob^bur[n] er, I just complied the wma plugin for it, took me all of about 2 minutes05:51
bob2sandis: yes, C++ can't check those sort of things at compile time05:51
bob2generally05:51
BitterGeekSomething's up with your hardware then, danielrr05:52
bob2sandis: put your code on the web somewhere05:52
danielrris there away that I could have gstreamer not bei nstalled?05:52
linlinbut everyone else in the thread is having the same problem, and he says his worked fine by doing whatever he did, but i dont know what he did05:52
bur[n] errob^: compile crossfade, tray icon, and media library for me and make a .deb ;)05:52
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rob^bur[n] er, heh05:52
sandisok, give me a minute05:52
bob2danielrr: why do you want to get rid of it?05:52
BitterGeekMost linux apps don't sig11 unless there's bad hardware or something.05:52
danielrris there away that I could have gstreamer not bei nstalled?05:52
bur[n] eri really have tried, i just can't get through all the hassles of the ./configure05:52
rob^bur[n] er, I might add a guide to the wiki, how about that?05:52
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bob2danielrr: ignoring people trying to help you seems kinda dumb05:52
bur[n] errob^: i'd dig it :)05:52
bur[n] errob^: though according to bmp website, things are changing as they go to gstreamer05:53
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Randall64IIIEars: Debian/sarge isn't too bad, but no multilib (32-bit) support.05:53
bob2that's multi-arch05:54
rob^bur[n] er, I'll check it out05:54
danielrrbob2 because it is haulting installation05:54
FaRoFa_hCI request my cd  of ubuntu in ship-it... Are 2 months to send my CD????05:54
bob2and it depends what you mean; it does have ia32-libs05:54
bob2FaRoFa_hC: has it shipped yet?05:54
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bob2danielrr: on hoary?05:54
Randall64bob2: I mean what fedora does.05:54
IIIEarspatiently taking notes - ;)05:54
Kovecsesdebian doesnt have xorg right?05:54
FaRoFa_hCbob2 hoary05:54
bob2Kovecses: sure it does05:54
Randall64Kovecses: It does now.05:54
bob2FaRoFa_hC: logon to shipit.ubuntu.com and see if it has shipped yet then05:55
Randall64Now to make Hoary bug reports.05:55
Kovecsesbob2, what?05:55
linlinwhat does "I took the mythtv line out of hte sources.list and just left it with the multiverse edit" mean?05:55
Kovecsesbob2, sarge does?05:55
bur[n] errob^: let me know if you make something :)  i'd really be interested, i love winamp... miss it mucho05:55
bob2Kovecses: "yes, it does have x.org"05:55
danielrrbob2 on ubuntu 5.04 x8605:55
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IIIEarsnot only free but tracked to your door? - nice.05:55
bob2Kovecses: no, sarge does not05:55
Kovecsesbob2, etch?05:55
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rob^bur[n] er, will do, there will be something in breezy also05:55
bob2danielrr: that's very weird, are you sure your cd is ok?05:55
sandisbob2: www.tume.lv/uzd2.tar.gz05:55
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bur[n] errob^: what will be in breezy?05:56
sbatten2Whats the best ftp server in ubuntu? Somethin easy and hopefully with a GUI would be wonderful05:56
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bob2Kovecses: not yet, some core debian macines have been in transit05:56
sandisbob2: its console project in anjuta05:56
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Kovecsesbob2, so? ......... i would have to install and then add the sid repo's05:56
rob^bur[n] er, I'm adding BMP to the official FAQ, along with how to install plugins for it05:56
arcanistheroguehey, has anyone here installed UT2004 on linux?05:56
bob2sbatten2: anything doing ftp will be kinda arse, but vsftpd is one of the least bad05:56
bob2Kovecses: no, you'd wait for it to hit etch, if that's what you want05:56
rob^bur[n] er, but I'll make a copy for Horay and put it on the wiki05:57
bob2Kovecses: or use the sarge backport of it or ...05:57
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bur[n] errob^: very cool :)05:57
sbatten2bob2: thanks =)05:57
Kovecsesbob2, yeah ok.... i will just wait05:57
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bob2sandis: er, more than a trivial, program, ask #c++05:57
bob2sandis: valgrind and gdb will be your friends, tho05:57
rob^bur[n] er, yes, that will happen :)05:57
StyxFixed it, thanks for your help :)05:57
bob2and just not using C constructs like malloc at all05:57
danielrrBOb2 I tried 4 copies that I got from Ubuntu plus a copy I downloaded fromy there site05:57
sandisbob2: no, its simple - 1 class only05:58
arcanistherogueanyone know how to install unreal tournament 2004?05:58
bob2sandis: why on earth is it a 500KB tarball then?05:58
vinuxarcanistherogue, maybe05:58
bob2arcanistherogue: google found no guides at all?05:58
bob2danielrr: and did you check any of them?05:58
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sandisbob2: makefiles and so05:58
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arcanistheroguebob2: yeah, i couldn't find anything about hte problem im having05:58
arcanistheroguebut i didnt really look to hard05:58
bob2anjuta is broken then05:58
Randall64Look at that!  Ubuntu actually knows display's native resolution!05:59
vinuxarcanistherogue, hte?05:59
delltonyanyone now of a good chm reader for linux? i have tried xchm but the chm file i have for some reason is not readable with xchm05:59
arcanistheroguevinux: V_V  the05:59
vinuxarcanistherogue, what's the problem?05:59
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arcanistheroguewell, when i install it says to insert CD 2, but even when its in it doesnt read it05:59
bob2sandis: works here06:00
vinuxarcanistherogue, what do you mean by doesn't read it? Does the window that pops up that says mount disk 2 go away?06:00
WaXhow is everyone tonight06:00
arcanistherogueno, i just keep hitting "yes" and it wont accept.06:01
WaXWhat are you thought on Ubuntu?06:01
vinuxarcanistherogue, ah yes I had this problem06:01
bob2sandis: anyway, run it under valgrind and gdb, and try #c++06:01
frankarcanistherogue: what if you mount the disks manually as you go?06:01
arcanistheroguevinux: whats the solution?06:01
bob2sandis: assuming you're sure your memroy is ok06:01
bur[n] erWaX: ?06:01
Randall64I think I'd like the installer to get grub right.06:01
arcanistheroguelet me try that06:01
WaXburner06:01
bob2Randall64: if it did something wrong, please file a bug06:01
sandismemtest was ok06:01
Kovecseswho here uses gnome?06:02
Randall64bob2: I am, I am06:02
arcanistheroguenot me06:02
bur[n] erthoughts on ubuntu.... it's great :)06:02
vinuxarcanistherogue, thinking. hmm let me see what was it. ok do you have to cd or dvd roms?06:02
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arcanistheroguecd06:02
arcanistherogueoh i got it working06:02
WaXHave you tried alot of distros06:02
arcanistheroguemounting them manually06:02
arcanistheroguethat works06:02
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Kovecsesbur[n] er, u like ubuntu?06:02
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vinuxarcanistherogue, woot yes I was going to say that :)06:02
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Kovecsesbur[n] er, what were you using before?06:02
sandisbob2: thanx anyway06:02
sbatten2ok, i'm looking through the man pages for vsftpd, but I can't find where I set which directory I want to be the ftp directory :(06:02
bob2WaX: ##linux might be a better place to ask06:02
thechristelegacyhey, I read in the Ubuntu doc that this is the place to come for help.   Does anyone in here use a Dell Dimension desktop with dial-up with ubuntu ?06:02
vinuxarcanistherogue, I use gnome :)06:02
bob2thechristelegacy: it's way better to ask your whole question up front06:03
arcanistheroguemy kde looks real nice though :D06:03
bob2your problem is unlikely to be dell-dimension- or ubuntu-specific06:03
BitterGeekDell? Don't tell me it has a winmodem inside.06:03
bur[n] erslackware -> redhat -> mandrake -> JBLinux -> Slackware -> Morphix ->Debian -> Ubuntu06:03
sandisbob2: couldn it be bug in gcc/autotools or anything?06:03
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bob2sandis: highly unlikely06:03
bur[n] erand i've tried a couple other distros along the way06:03
bur[n] erfedora here and there06:03
frankbur[n] er: thats quite a journey!06:03
bob2sandis: run it under valgrind and it will show you what went wrong06:03
sbatten2there is anon_root, but I'm not sure if thats gonna let people go up in the tree which would be bad06:03
WaXWhy im curius about Ubuntu? i have tried alot of distros and wondering why this is so popular so quick?06:03
sandisok, thanx06:03
bur[n] erWaX: apt rules the world06:03
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arcanistheroguei know :D06:04
BitterGeekthechristelegacy: Is there a windows-only modem in that Dell?06:04
bur[n] erthings are simple and "just work" for the most part06:04
WaXyes i agree apt is nice06:04
bob2WaX: try it and see then06:04
bob2this isn't an advocacy channel06:04
Kovecsesi thought i would never use anything but debian......i just couldnt help it ubuntu is just to damn good06:04
arcanistherogueKubuntu right here :D06:04
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vinuxbur[n] er, hey I like slack alot but ubuntu comes first place with apt-get06:04
bur[n] er;)06:04
thechristelegacythanks for the advice bob2 :)    My problem is that when I try to connect to the internet, well I simply can't, I have no idea where to go to get onto the internet. There is nothing in the internet tab for it. The one area I found was administration/networking, but it couldnt detect the modem, but I have no idea how to figure out what the moden is, if it is a winmodem, or not, or if that even is the problem06:04
WaXI plan too, is anyone running kde ?06:04
arcanistherogueI am!06:05
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bob2thechristelegacy: is it an internal modem?06:05
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thechristelegacybob2: yes06:05
WaXrunning ok?06:05
arcanistherogueyeah06:05
Madpilotthoreauputic: is that allowed? ;)06:05
sbatten2anyone here familiar with vsftp?06:05
arcanistherogueits running great06:05
bob2thechristelegacy: it's unlikely to be a proper modem then06:05
ilba7ris there a program i need to download to associate certain type of files .lyx with certain program lyx in gnome06:05
WaXI cant really stand gnome06:05
thoreauputicMadpilot: oops06:05
thoreauputic;)06:05
bob2thechristelegacy: does google say anything about your hardware and linux?06:05
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KovecsesWaX, you use kde06:05
Kovecses?06:05
bob2sbatten2: #vsftp or #vsftpd might be a better place to ask06:05
BitterGeekthechristelegacy: Did the modem come with the Dell?06:06
thechristelegacyBitterGeek: Yes06:06
thechristelegacybob2: I'll search google right now06:06
WaXcurrently on fedora... but I will on Ubuntu when I run it06:06
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BitterGeek9 outta 10 it's a winmodem since they're the cheapest to put into a PC.06:06
bob2yeah06:06
Madpilotbob2: is vsftpd a GUI or CLI ftp client?06:06
bob2which will be a pain06:06
bob2Madpilot: it's a ftp server06:07
Kovecsesi like kde but i find it buggy06:07
bob2I hope there are no ftp servers with guis on linux06:07
frankKovecses: the latest version of kde is much less buggy06:07
hybrid_gothbob2:?06:07
ilba7ris there a program i need to download to associate certain type of files .lyx with certain program lyx in gnome06:07
calcvsftpd isn't a client06:07
Madpilotbob2: ah, ok. thought it was a client. gFTP desperately needs a replacement...06:07
WaXKovecses, yeah it has its issues but lately i have had little problems06:07
bob2Madpilot: nautilus doesn't work for you?06:07
bob2hybrid_goth: hm?06:07
Kovecsesfrank, 3.4.1..........06:07
ilba7rsorry i was disconnected for a while06:07
BitterGeekYou have two options: Find out if you can get winmodem support working for that modem. Or buy a new modem that works with Linux.06:07
frankKovesces 3.4.2 is out06:07
calclftp is a nice ftp client06:07
Kovecsesfrank, is that what you use?06:07
hybrid_gothbob2: why would you care if the ftp is gui or not06:07
WaXtho i dont do as much tinkering as i used to06:07
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Madpilotbob2: not always. plus it has limitations - no CHMOD ability for starters06:08
bob2hybrid_goth: because ftp servers ru nas root06:08
frankKovecses: since this morning, yeah06:08
hybrid_gothah06:08
Kovecsesfrank, is 3.4.2 in any repos yet?06:08
bob2root + gui = stupid06:08
hybrid_gothlol06:08
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Kovecsesbob2, well said06:08
bob2hybrid_goth: I don't have a problem with gui config tools that twiddle the config files06:08
frankhttp://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php06:08
Kovecsesfrank, thanks06:08
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BitterGeekthechristelegacy? Did you get read the stuff about needing a new modem or hacking the modem in the Dell to work with Ubuntu?06:09
evilyodaI can't remember the fix for the problem where X can't find the 'fixed' font - it's under breezy and I've had it working before06:09
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WaXThis distro is #1 on distrowatch, was wondering why it is so popular as opposed to other distros06:10
WaXEase?06:10
bob2WaX: try it and see06:10
hybrid_gothease of use06:10
hybrid_gothpower06:10
hybrid_gothapt06:10
hybrid_gothmany many more06:10
Kovecsesfrank, getting kde3.4.2 ..... should i get kubuntu-desktop or kde?06:10
ilba7rwax best support non broken repos you name it06:10
thechristelegacyBitterGeek: No I didn't is it on the install documentation on the CD?06:10
WaXthanks06:10
frankKovecses: I just updated (smart update in synaptic)06:11
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Kovecsesfrank, im using gnome though06:11
frankKovecses: It will install a few new things like noatun and others06:11
frankKovecses: oh.06:11
frankKovecses: Well did you want all of kde? for that get kubuntu-dektop06:12
Kovecsesim gonna go with straight kde06:12
WaXThanks for the info fellas06:12
WaXhave a great night06:12
BitterGeekthechristelegacy: Try to locate your modem on this list. http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/index.php?cat=12106:12
thechristelegacythanks BitterGeek, give me a few minutes and I'll report back :)06:13
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Kovecsesnow is there a way to completely remove kde if i dont like it?06:14
dcgarriI've been using Ubuntu for one hour.  This is my first attempt at Linux.  How to I install an rpm file?06:14
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Kovecsesdcgarri, well06:14
hybrid_gothdcgarri: ubuntu doesnt use rpm06:14
Kovecsesdcgarri, ubuntu is not an rpm distro06:14
hybrid_gothif you can get the .deb06:14
thoreauputic!synaptic06:15
ubotuit has been said that synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto06:15
Kovecsesdcgarri, but you can use alien debfile to create a deb06:15
Madpilotor install from the repos via Synaptic06:15
evilyodawill somebody tell me how I can get X working under breezy - keeps saying it can't use the 'fixed' font06:15
thoreauputicdcgarri: read the URL ubotu just spat out06:15
hybrid_gothKovecses: it is best to try to get the deb first06:15
Kovecseshybrid_goth, yes06:15
jasmuzevilyoda: why dont you read in the forums06:15
BitterGeekthechristelegacy: Winmodems are the work of Satan. They will cause more grief (flaky connections on bad phone lines, stability issues, etc). Foolish greedy PC makers trying to cut corners!06:15
dcgarrithank you much... I was wanting to install limewire, but the format was rpm... unless you guys recommend a better p2p06:15
hybrid_gothalien = still expiremental06:16
Kovecseswhy would you use breezy/06:16
Kovecses?06:16
hybrid_gothdcgarri: bittorrent06:16
Kovecseshybrid_goth, alien works great for me06:16
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jasmuzdcgarri: gtk-gnutella06:16
bob2Kovecses: if you install it with aptitude, just remving kubuntu-desktop will get rid of it06:16
dcgarrithanks!06:17
hybrid_gothKovecses: but if you look at debian.org it will *always* be expirememntal06:17
hybrid_gothalien that is06:17
nothingsometingcan someone point me to a forum that is for dummies trying to start samba ............or prehaps something on how to swt up SWAT to where i can use it to configure samba.06:17
Kovecsesbob2, yeah but i just got kde...not kubuntu-desktop......oops06:17
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nothingsometingSET*06:17
bob2Kovecses: same deal, remove kde then06:17
dcgarrioh yes, one more extension question... .run files?06:17
bob2nothingsometing: it didn't start by default?06:18
hybrid_gothnothingsometingL what so you wanna do exactly06:18
Kovecsesbob2, how dpkg -r kde?06:18
bob2dcgarri: the file will have instructions06:18
bob2Kovecses: no06:18
bob2Kovecses: did you use aptitude to install it?06:18
dcgarrithanks06:18
nothingsometingactually it did start but i can't acess it from windows06:18
Kovecsesbob2, yeah06:18
bob2Kovecses: then remove it with aptitude06:18
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bob2Kovecses: _ on the kde package06:18
bob2nothingsometing: did you set the correct work group?06:18
Kovecsesbob2, this might sound dumb but i dont know how06:18
bob2_06:19
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thechristelegacyBitterGeek: Yeah, I read that they're software based and used drivers that come with the OS06:19
Kovecsessudo apt-get remove?06:19
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bob2Kovecses: dude, no06:19
thoreauputicKovecses: use aptitude06:19
nothingsometingi wold rather set the work group in SWAT than the .config file06:19
bob2Kovecses: run aptitude.  select the kde package.  hit _06:19
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DukGalNamuanyone know where i can find a list of prism based wifi cards?06:19
nothingsometingit's more GUI if you know what i mean06:20
levanderDo bugs filed in the ubuntu bugzilla usually get responded to?06:20
bur[n] erhow come when I made a "connect to server" link on my desktop for an ftp site, my PC wants to use firefox instead of nautilus?06:20
bob2DukGalNamu: usually easier to google for your card and "linux"06:20
Kovecsesbob2, ok..........i used apt to get kde06:20
bob2levander: yes, but if you just filed it, expect to wait06:20
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bob2Kovecses: so, when I said "did you use aptitude to install it?", what did you mean by "yeah"?06:20
nothingsometingand yes it is on the right workgroup06:20
DukGalNamubob2: i am an oem, so i end up haveing several hundred cards to choose from in the 15-6006:20
Kovecsesbob2, sorry man i thought apt was short for aptitude06:21
DukGalNamudollar range06:21
linlini need to install "qt" how do i do such?06:21
bob2Kovecses: then it's not simple to remove it06:21
levanderbob2: i haven't filed yet, i realize it's probably not exact, but, wait a week, wait a month? there's a general idea of how long it takes to get to those?06:21
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bob2linlin: sudo aptitude install libqt3-mt06:21
bob2linlin: week06:21
bob2levander: week06:21
linlinthat was fast :) thanks06:21
levanderbob2: oh, that's really pretty good06:21
bob2Kovecses: use aptitude in future, and try using debfoster for now06:21
ntomhey, anyone know whether u need an extra plugin to get sound to work on VLC?06:21
nothingsometingi just don't have any users set up to be able to log into samba from my laptop(windows xp) because it needs authenication06:21
bob2DukGalNamu: your suppliers can't tell you that sort of thing?06:21
Kovecsesbob2, ok///06:21
thechristelegacyBitterGeek: I did find that modem on the list, it's an Intel 537EP V9x DF PCI modem06:21
levanderbob2: can I file bugs for packages in universe in there?06:21
DukGalNamumost don't06:22
bob2levander: no, use launchpad.ubuntu.com06:22
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dcgarribob2, when i attempt to execute the ".run" file, I get a message in gedit saying that the character coding could not be detected06:22
nothingsometingam i right bob206:22
DukGalNamubob2: and even if they did, the makers can change the chipset on you06:22
DukGalNamubob2: and frequently do06:22
bob2nothingsometing: enable anonymous sharing then06:22
BitterGeekHmmm.06:22
bob2DukGalNamu: tha'ts kinda crap :/06:22
bob2anyway, lunch06:22
ntomhey, anyone know whether u need an extra plugin to get sound to work on VLC???06:22
nothingsometingbob2 if i could do that i could probbally create users right?06:22
DukGalNamubob2: is there a list anywhere?06:22
nothingsometingor wrong06:22
evilyodaq06:23
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BitterGeekthechristelegacy: Winmodem!06:23
dcgarriok, bobs gone... can anyone inform me as to how I would open a .run file?  I'm trying to update ATI drivers06:23
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rob^dcgarri, you need to chmod +x the file06:23
rob^then do ./filename06:23
Burgundaviadcgarri, the ati driver info can be found here --> wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:23
thechristelegacyBitterGeek: Yeah, I'm going to google for drivers06:23
nothingsometingbob2: i tought that windows xp demanded authenication06:24
dcgarrithank you06:24
frankdcgarri:  sh filename.run06:24
delltonyis there a recommended chm viewer for linux? i have tried xchm but having issues with it (not reading file)06:24
Burgundaviarob^, recommend the existing apt method before that one06:24
BitterGeekthechristelegacy: they may not be in Ubuntu. If you're desperate, you may have to build your own kernel.06:24
rob^Burgundavia, yeah, I didnt read what he needed it for, all he asked was how to run a .run file :)06:24
Burgundaviarob^, yes, usually you need to read past the first question06:25
nothingsometingbob2 or someone where is the config file that lets me create groups and users and permisions06:25
rob^Burgundavia, right..06:25
Kovecsesu guys are so touchy relax06:25
nothingsometingis that still the same config file06:25
thechristelegacyBitterGeek: Lol, I can't even build hello world yet, if I were to happen to find a driver online, burn it to a diskm can you install drivers without recompiling the kernel?06:25
zerboxxFor some reason, after amsn has been up for a while, it just freezes, I can't get rid of the windows, and I've tried killing it (-9) and nothing.  Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?06:25
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gparentHey.06:26
thoreauputiczerboxx: sudo pkill amsn ?06:26
BitterGeekthechristelegacy: You can but it's rather technical06:26
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gparentAnybody has the error message "Message could not be sent because an error with the switchboard occurred:"06:27
gparentWhen talking on msn06:27
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thechristelegacyBitter06:27
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thechristelegacyBitterGeek: Well I'm up for the challenge I supose06:27
zerboxxthoreauputic: That didn't get rid of the windows, but I'd also like to stop it from freezing in the first place06:27
levanderIt really surprises me how few people are using dvd-rw's with ubuntu06:27
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thoreauputiczerboxx: sure - that would be nice ;)06:28
levandercause i'm starting to think udftools just doesn't work in ubuntu06:28
danielrrif I still have a problem w/ install could I bypass installling gstreamer?06:28
Kovecseslevander, if i had some i would use them06:28
SlipjackOkay, I installed XviD and w32codecs and still can't watch encoded videos!06:28
franklevander: I never tried to use one06:28
thoreauputiczerboxx: try xkill to zap the windowwith your mouse06:28
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mikeyo06:28
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anomalyI figure I can try ubuntu on this old test box.. 400mhz/128mb ram. should be fast enough for basic things.06:28
Kovecsesyeah xkill is good06:28
BitterGeekthechristelegacy: Is $60 cheaper than you time and sanity. If so, better to buy a new modem that is not a softmodem.06:28
mikeanybody know how to make eterm transparent on your background with kubuntu?06:28
ricosuave17u dudes r no help06:28
zerboxxthoreauputic: xkill did the trick, thanks06:29
regeyahere's what I recommend for totem users: gstreamer is still under development, give totem-xine a try.06:29
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levanderwell, don't go and buy a dvdrw drive expecting to use it with ubuntu, cause i'm really starting to think that the udftools package just doesn't work06:29
frankSlipjack: what kind?06:29
thechristelegacyBitterGeek: Thanks for the advice, I may just go that route06:29
thoreauputiczerboxx: satisfying isn't it? I like zapping stuff with xkill (not that I've needed to lately )06:29
Slipjackfrank: Mostly XviD backups of my DVDs.06:29
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franktry with vlc?06:30
zerboxxthoreauputic: *sigh* I see now that when this happens I'll have to do a reboot to get amsn back up.  May have to switch to gaim *cringe*06:30
ricosuave17anyone wanan help plz06:30
thoreauputiczerboxx: as to the freezing, I don't know06:30
Slipjackfrank: Not yet. I've heard about it. I'll google it.06:30
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bob2ricosuave17: a less terrible attitude would probably help06:30
frankSlipjack: don't google install with synaptic06:30
ubuntunalioth hello06:30
frankSlipjack: install everything with synaptic06:30
jasoncohenzerboxx, are you sure you completely killed amsn?06:31
bob2nothingsometing: just use an anonymouse share... /etc/samba/smb.conf explains how06:31
jasoncohenzerboxx, ps -ax | grep amsn06:31
naliothubuntu: hello06:31
mikeanyone here know how to make eterm transparent on your background on kubuntu?06:31
Slipjackfrank: The default repositories don't cover much. Have any good ones?06:31
zerboxxjasoncohen: What should I or shouldn't I see?06:31
ubuntunow in room 21806:31
jasoncohenzerboxx, well, if you killed amsn you should see nothing but grep amsn06:31
ricosuave17well dudes why not u listen to me. just tell me how to fix my screen size. im on serial console06:31
ubuntuvery strong connection06:31
frankSlipjack: do you have universe, multiverse and backports enabled?06:31
ubuntuwired06:31
naliothubuntu join ##apple please06:31
bob2ricosuave17: perhaps no one knows06:31
frankSlipjack: how did you install w32codecs06:31
ubuntu##apple06:32
bob2ricosuave17: or perhaps you haven't explained the problem very well06:32
zerboxxjasoncohen: mind if I open a dialog box, so I don't spam in here?06:32
thoreauputiczerboxx: I seem to recall there's a terminal/ cli app that does msn (can't remember the name atm)06:32
ricosuave17then what is there for me to do06:32
Slipjackfrank: .deb package :)06:32
bob2ricosuave17: ask a single coherent question06:32
bob2ricosuave17: on a single line06:32
Slipjackfrank: Don't know about universe, multiverse, backports... been away from Linux for a while.06:32
bob2ricosuave17: explaining what isn't working, what you'vew tried, and how you got into this mess to begin with06:32
frankSlipjack: ill send you my source.list if you want?06:32
ricosuave17ok right now im stuck on real console. all i need is to fix my resolution size. how do i do this without gnome06:32
Madpilot!repos06:32
ubotumethinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:32
Slipjackfrank: Sure! That would help a lot.06:33
bob2ricosuave17: no, explain what on earth "resolution size" means, and how you broke it to begin wit06:33
ricosuave17i tried to make my resolution bigger. u do know what resolution is right?06:33
danielrr.install halted again because og gstreamer06:33
levanderIf it's any consolation, the guys in #fedora are ignoring udftools questions too.  Maybe that distribution is no better off than we are.06:33
Slipjackfrank: Thanks.06:33
bob2ricosuave17: yes, imply I'm an idiot, that will encourage me to help you06:33
bob2levander: "ignoring" is a silly way to put it06:34
bob2ricosuave17: restore your backup X config file06:34
frankSlipjack: uncomment backports to get access to what is in them. w32codecs is there for example06:34
ricosuave17i killed it06:34
bob2ricosuave17: you did back it up before editing it, right?06:34
BitterGeekYikes, danielrr!06:34
ricosuave17nop06:34
levanderbob2: true, i wasn't ignored in this channel06:34
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bob2ricosuave17: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xorg ; sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg06:34
BitterGeekChipset issues?06:34
bob2ricosuave17: and don't be so silly in future06:34
levanderjust frustrated cause i can't get this seemingly easy thing to work06:34
frankSlipjack: oh and comment out debian unstable! It's usually commented for me06:35
Slipjackfrank: Okay. And this is to be put in my /usr/apt dir?06:35
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ricosuave17bob2:  what will that command do becuase i just reinstalled xorg06:35
bob2ricosuave17: you reinstalled it incorrectly06:35
frankSlipjack: it goes in /etc/apt/06:35
BitterGeekdanielrr: your PC used to freeze when it was running Fedora RC4. There must be some sort of harware problem.06:36
ricosuave17nop06:36
ray_now running kde 3.4.206:36
bob2ricosuave17: in future, do not touch config files until you have a backup06:36
bob2ricosuave17: yes, you did, sorry06:36
bob2ricosuave17: read the dpkg man page to find out what -P does06:36
Slipjackfrank: Thanks. Never had something as powerful as Synaptic. I have my Linux+ cert but I haven't used Linux in like a year. You're a big help right now06:36
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ricosuave17alright but the thing is all i want cause everything is fine is to make my resolution bigger but it only detected 800*600 on my video card06:36
nothingsometingbob2: i found the smb.config document b4 loging on but i thought that that was the actual config file for samba if that isn't then what is the file that i would actualy need to edit in a word processor, it soulds like you are saying th smb.conf file is more like a refrance than a editing document or am i still cnfused?06:37
thoreauputicricosuave17: funnily enough, bob2 tends to know wtf he's talking about06:37
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bob2leet speak is annoying06:37
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flyingsolocan someone tell me how to install Java and Limewire on my comp. im 100% new to linux06:37
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BitterGeeklolz d00d :-)06:37
bob2nothingsometing: /etc/samba/smb.conf is the config file, iirc06:37
ricosuave17i know but im just trying to know what is going to happen so i can knoe if i already tried that06:37
bob2all my machines with samba are offline, unfortunately06:37
thoreauputicricosuave17: he wants you to "purge" what you have before reinstalling it06:38
ricosuave17ok. thanks thoreauputic06:38
nothingsometingbob2:  it will also tell me how to edit itself properly?06:38
ricosuave17bob2: can i get that plz becuase i have no screen buffer06:38
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bob2ricosuave17: yes you do, hit scroll up06:38
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bob2nothingsometing: yes06:38
danielrrcan any one tell me if there isb a way to bypass installing gstreamer durining installation of ubuntu?06:39
jasoncohenshouldn't "gdb gaim" run gaim and show output in gdb?06:39
ricosuave17nop im on irssi and on real console06:39
bob2nothingsometing: just copy one of the blocks at the bottom (like the cdrom one) and edit it06:39
bob2ricosuave17: then page up will work fine06:39
thoreauputicricosuave17: bob2 ricosuave17: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xorg ; sudo aptitude06:39
bob2danielrr: no, sorry06:39
thoreauputicricosuave17: sorry that isn't complete06:39
bob2danielrr: it sounds very much like your cd or computer are broken06:39
bob2jasoncohen: no06:39
bob2jasoncohen: you need to give it the run command06:39
ricosuave17ok. ill do that06:40
thoreauputicricosuave17: bob2 ricosuave17: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xorg ; sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg06:40
bob2jasoncohen: but it wont be much use, gaim in ubuntu has no debugging symbols06:40
jasoncohenzerboxx wants to use it for amsn06:40
DakelI can't get the google.com name to resolve, although the IP address works and all other URLs work. Anyone else with this problem?06:40
jasoncohenbut gdb amsn doesn't work06:40
thoreauputicricosuave17: BTW page-up to scroll back in irssi06:40
danielrrwell cd and computer works both for fedora core 4 and suse bob206:40
bob2jasoncohen: amsn is written in tcl06:41
frankDakel: maybe they are having problems06:41
jasoncohenbob2, so, what should zerboxx use to debug it?06:41
bob2jasoncohen: I wouldn't bother06:42
jasoncohenok06:42
bob2jasoncohen: and it depends a lot on what the bug is06:42
Dakelfrank: It worked at the office (WinXP) and at home (Win98), but not Firefox in Ubuntu. I can ping it, though.06:42
bob2if the tcl interpreter is crashing, you could gdb that06:42
jasoncohenhe says it crashes for no apparent reason while he's typing06:42
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bob2just file a bug then06:42
bob2unless you know tcl already06:43
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Dakelfrank: It's been this way just a few days.06:43
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jasoncohenbob2, ok, i told him to file a bug06:43
ricosuave17bob2 it seems to stil have xfree86 somewere in the memory06:43
bob2ricosuave17: awesome06:43
bob2but unrelated06:43
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AMCDeathKnightWho knows away to run Activeworlds in ubuntu?06:44
zerboxxbob2: I will file a bug as you suggested, but all I can say is that it just crashed, kinda seems pointless06:44
ricosuave17no i mean might that be a problem?06:44
bob2ricosuave17: no06:44
bob2zerboxx: indeed06:44
bob2if someone cares about amsn, they can follow up and request more info from you06:45
zerboxxbob2: hehe ok, thanks06:45
ricosuave17bob2: one more little thing x is working fine except i would like to get a bigger resolution06:45
Slipjackfrank: Downloading vlc now. Hopefully this will fix my problem.06:45
MrGardenHoseManvlc > *06:45
bob2ricosuave17: indeed.  leave it alone and read the wiki06:45
bob2!+resolution06:45
ubotuit has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:45
bob2and back any file youre about to edit up06:45
bob2me good grammar06:45
ricosuave17i tried that yesterday and thats what brought me to this problem06:46
ricosuave17i tried that file and it didnt do much06:46
bob2oh wel06:46
ricosuave17i know my video card can go higher but it sticks to 102406:46
bob2file a bug and wait, I guess06:46
bob2or find someone who'll walk you through it06:46
thoreauputicbob2: that is the kind of English up with which we will not put! *g*06:46
bob2being abusive on IRC will not help, tho06:46
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SlipjackExcellent! vlc works great. Even played the .wmv file.06:47
nothingsometingbob2: can i also create users, groups, and permissions with this same config file???????06:48
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ricosuave17bob2: how can i reconfigure just my resolution not my whole x06:48
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TooNamIhello06:49
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SlipjackHello TooNamI06:51
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jasoncohenricosuave17, generally you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and change the resolution & supported resolution to the max your monitor supports or that you want to use06:51
Xyc0What is the name of the file that defines the default application associations?06:51
ricosuave17ok thanks but will that mess with my other options?06:51
jasoncohenricosuave17, you also might need to manually specify the horizontal & vertical sync rates. use "sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange" to find yours06:52
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TooNamIhi I am having a bit of trouble with ubuntu cant seem to figure this out... im running a p4 2.8e w/ ati 9600pro xt... When i install the max reso is 600x460 -- i tried the reconfigure xserver and it lets me use a higher resolution but its virtual... My screen is still in lower resolution and i have to scroll around06:52
JonasNZYAY! i just got my CD's06:53
jasoncohenricosuave17, just hit enter on options you don't want to change to keep the current setting06:53
ricosuave17ok06:53
nothingsometingin a config file can someone tell me what the " # " (pound sgin) is at the left for?06:53
jasoncohennothingsometing, that's for comments or to comment out a line06:53
TooNamIafter i ran config for x it stuck the ati card's tv out to on06:53
nothingsometingwhat pourpous does it serve06:53
jasoncohennothingsometing, anything with a # as the first character is ignored06:53
nothingsometingooooooooooh06:54
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nothingsometingthis makes alot more scence06:54
thoreauputicnothingsometing: 1) help to understand the file 2) disables stuff you don't want06:54
dispatcherhello nalioth06:54
nothingsometingso what about the "  ; " sign06:54
thoreauputicnothingsometing: in some files that is a comment too06:54
nothingsometingi seen that one next to stuff that look like commands06:55
naliothdispatcher: type /join ##apple    please06:55
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jasoncohennothingsometing, ; can also be used in a command to run multiple commands after one another06:55
jasoncohenlike "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade"06:55
jasoncohenfirst it updates and then it upgrades06:55
nothingsometingi'm trying to edit smb.conf06:55
nothingsometingjasoncohen: so that's whay i was asking06:56
jasoncohennothingsometing, you might want to use swat06:56
nothingsometingi don't know how to06:56
nothingsometingi was asking how to earlyer but noone would tel me06:56
nothingsometingi read in google that that was the smart way to go06:57
jasoncohennothingsometing, sudo apt-get install swat06:57
bob2nothingsometing: no, if you want users and groups you have to go find a samba howto06:57
bob2nothingsometing: #samba can no doubt point you at the right places06:57
nothingsometingjasoncohen: no no no, i have it06:57
bob2ricosuave17: that doesn't mean anything06:57
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nothingsometingjasoncohen: samba howto??06:58
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bob2nothingsometing: dude06:58
bob2nothingsometing: type "samba howto" in to google06:58
bob2nothingsometing: look at the second line06:58
Randall64ugh, unsupported features in my ext3 filesystem?  You've got to be kidding.06:59
nothingsometingbob2: google linux or google normal06:59
bob2Randall64: yay fedora06:59
bob2nothingsometing: either06:59
Randall64It doesn't even load a keyboard driver when it fails.06:59
bob2it's unlikely that there;s a keyboard driver to load06:59
Randall64It tells me it's mounted ro, like a regular failed autofsck.07:00
bob2you created the filesystem with fedora 4?07:00
Randall64debian07:00
Randall64iirc07:00
bob2I'd be very very surprised then07:00
Madpilotback in a bit, fooling with Opera's configs07:00
Randall64I'm fsck'ing under knoppix now.07:01
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bob2Randall64: http://www.cims.nyu.edu/~barnett/laptop_setup/07:01
bob2perhaps that will help07:02
bob2tho I'm not sure how to set it in /07:02
redtechok, whats the easiet way to add/modify links in the applications menu?07:02
bob2!+smeg07:02
ubotufrom memory, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.07:02
Randall64Well, I'm probably going to shrink this partition, then do a new one with a clean Hoary.07:02
redtech<307:02
Randall64If that fails I'll probably give this peecee to family and buy a tivo.07:02
Dr_WillisI got a little HD-DVD TV recorder box at walmart for like $230 with a 80gb hd.07:04
Dr_Willisi think its even down to $200 or so now. :P an record to HD or to dvd disk. (6 hrs on dvd)07:04
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danielrrgood nig all gtanks for the help07:06
redtechbob2, and what would be the built in way?07:06
bob2using smeg07:07
bob2or maybe mv07:07
redtechahh ok.  thx07:07
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jasoncohenhmm, i can't seem to get swat to start because i can't start the inetd service07:10
Randall64Why won't inetd start?07:10
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jasoncohennot sure07:11
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Randall64no logging?07:11
jasoncohenum...and now it works fine07:11
jasoncohenall i did was comment out a line and open a new terminal07:11
Randall64Just try nfs under linux.  You'll be even more mystified.07:11
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thoreauputicRandall64: ? NFS isn't hard - I'm pretty much a network beginner and i have it running fine07:13
jasoncoheni do use NFS07:13
ToRTuReD_Xhey guys07:13
Randall64thore: Just keep at it.  It'll fail in all manner of mysterious ways.07:13
thoreauputicRandall64: so far so good - /me crosses fingers07:14
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salapoliisican i install 32bit ubuntu somehow with 64bit cd?07:14
apprenticecan i run mutiple Xs07:14
apprenticelike i run mutiple terminals07:14
Randall64sala: nope, can't get a 32-bit cd?07:15
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thoreauputicsalapoliisi: I think the answer would be no07:15
bob2of course07:15
Randall64apprentice: yes07:15
apprenticehow?07:15
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Randall64apprentice: X :1 will start another one07:15
jasoncohenRandall64, i have no clue what's going on with inetd07:15
salapoliisican i use 64bit ubuntu cd so that i could install 32bit version from internet?07:15
jasoncohennow it's just not giving any output but isn't working07:15
Randall64jason: Well, there's always xinetd07:15
apprenticebut can i swithc betweens x without the closing. cause if i run an x and switch to a console X closes07:15
Randall64sala: nope07:16
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jasoncohenroot@jasonslaptop:~# /etc/init.d/inetd start07:16
jasoncohenroot@jasonslaptop:~# ps ax | grep swat07:16
jasoncohen 9708 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep swat07:16
Randall64apprentice: I wonder why it does that.  What's on the vc X should be running on?07:16
ToRTuReD_Xhmm07:16
psychonatewhy, when I bring up a terminal, does it have me by default in / rather than in ~?07:17
Madpilotjust playing with the Ubuntu Wiki, and I'd like opinions on this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser - which I've just created07:17
Dr_Willisif the users home dir does not exist it goes to /07:17
thoreauputicapprentice:  http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/multiple-x.html07:17
psychonateThe directory actually changes from time to time. Sometimes when I open up a terminal, it's at some other directory07:17
Randall64psychonate: Did you startx from the console in / perchance?07:17
apprenticei am sorry thoreauputic  but i will need for u 2 send that link again later on i cant do much on console07:17
ToRTuReD_Xgod i love ubuntu07:17
ToRTuReD_Xjust needa find out how to set it up to auto login07:18
psychonateRandall64, no. GDM.07:18
psychonateGDM started X, I mean.07:18
thoreauputicapprentice: just get a pencil and paper dude07:18
psychonateI'm fairly sure the default directory changes though, but I'm not sure why07:18
thoreauputic:/07:18
apprenticeok07:18
Randall64psychonate: Maybe there's a pref to tell it which directory to start in.  Do xterms do the same thing?07:18
thoreauputicapprentice: advanced technology, eh ?07:19
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psychonateI don't know what's doing it, but it's causing problems with XMMS because I get strange "Directory unreadable: No such file or directory when I try to add files."07:19
Randall64links is pretty snazzy on the console imo07:19
Randall64But I'm comparing it to lynx.07:19
psychonateRandall64, yeah, xterm did the same thing.07:19
apprenticenop i just really like real console with no x07:19
psychonateI don't know why it doesn't always start in the same directory, let alone my home directory.07:19
jasoncohenwhat's the inetd package?07:20
Randall64qtparted hates my ext3 too, so I'm using resize2fs, then I'll make this peecee my bitch07:20
psychonateor, rather, why it doesn't start in my home dir07:20
Randall64psychonate: a ha!07:20
psychonateeh?07:20
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psychonateer, don't get me excited :(07:20
thoreauputicapprentice: you can start another session ( alt-F2 ; login ; links  http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/multiple-x.html07:20
thoreauputicfor example07:20
psychonateI can't add individual files in XMMS atm07:20
psychonatebecause of htis07:20
psychonates/htis/this07:20
ToRTuReD_Xlol07:21
ToRTuReD_Xsame psychonate07:21
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ToRTuReD_Xi can't add folders07:21
ToRTuReD_Xit locks up07:21
Randall64You just need a bigger filing cabinet for your folders.07:21
psychonateah, I think my problem is a little different07:21
Dr_Williso_007:21
drcodeany one know if I Want to add packgge to ubuntu live cd into the cd , is it possible?07:22
ToRTuReD_Xerm07:22
Dr_Willisdrcode,  not at this time - i dont think so.07:22
ToRTuReD_Xthat would require a burning wouldn't it?07:22
Dr_Willisthere are some other live cd's that can handle that  fairly easially (knoppix)07:22
ToRTuReD_Xah k07:22
drcodek07:23
drcodethanx07:23
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ToRTuReD_Xwoot07:23
Dr_Willisnot sure if you can remaaster the cd and put some debian packages on it or not with ubuntu yetl07:23
ToRTuReD_Xnine inch nails - only07:23
ToRTuReD_X\m/07:23
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ToRTuReD_Xhow do i know if i installed the drivers for my gfx card properly?07:23
Randall64tortured: glxgears is a simple test07:24
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MadpilotToRTuReD_X: glxinfo | grep OpenGL07:24
gpd46572 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9314.400 FPS07:24
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Dr_Willisplay tuxracer :P07:25
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jasoncohennothingsometing, hey, ok sudo apt-get install samba swat07:25
Madpilotinstall Scorched3d - it's a cool game anyway!07:25
jasoncohennothingsometing, then you'll need to edit /etc/inetd.conf07:25
apprenticei love u07:25
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jasoncohennothingsometing, "echo "swat  stream tcp nowait.400  root /usr/bin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat" >> /etc/inetd.conf"07:26
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Echelon-Hhi07:26
jasoncohennothingsometing, "sudo echo "swat  stream tcp nowait.400  root /usr/bin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat" >> /etc/inetd.conf"07:26
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chrishaum#edubuntu07:27
Forty|anyone else getting a problem upgrading firefox?07:27
timlForty|: check the topic07:27
Forty|hahahaha07:27
Forty|sorry about that07:27
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psychonatewhy is my XMMS acting so strangely :(07:28
Forty|timl, backports in the sources list?07:28
apprenticetry amarok07:28
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Randall64psycho: It realized it's a bad clone of a bad program people stopped using years ago.07:28
Randall64juk seems nice at least07:29
timlForty|: I have no idea, I've only read the topic :)07:29
apprenticeactually i wish there was a foobar clone07:29
Forty|hahaha07:29
Forty|hmm07:29
apprenticefoobar is like the best i wonder why no one has made a clone07:29
psychonatenow, if I want to save a playlist, it has the default save at / and I hit "../" and it takes me to /share/video/Faccia a faccia (1967) XviD  ?! 0.o07:29
apprenticepsychonate:  waht movie is that07:30
ToRTuReD_Xhow do i install a .tar.gz file?07:30
psychonateRandall64, unfortunately, I don't think Ubuntu has bmp plugins for flac, mpc, cue files, ape, and some other exotic formats07:30
Dr_WillisYou dont :P yoiu install tyhe program IN the .tar.gz :P07:30
ridejibToRTuReD_X: you need to unzip it first07:30
psychonateapprentice, spaghetti western film07:30
ToRTuReD_Xyeh07:30
ToRTuReD_Xthen?07:30
psychonate(Face to Face)07:30
ridejibToRTuReD_X: what type of files does it contain?07:30
apprenticecool. i dont really like westerns07:31
psychonateI like some.07:31
Forty|damn, whats the direcotry for hte source lists?07:31
ToRTuReD_Xi'll tell you when i'm done07:31
psychonateForty|, /etc/apt/sources.list ?07:31
apprenticethe only western i like is back to the future 307:31
psychonaterofl07:31
apprenticeits pretty western07:31
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ridejibfirst you gotta do gunzip file.tar.gz,  the tar -xvf file.tar07:32
psychonateSpaghetti Westerns are a little different in most cases from American Westerns07:32
apprenticemaybe there better07:32
psychonatewell, also depends on what american westerns you watched07:32
apprenticenot many actually07:32
Forty|thanks psychonate07:32
Forty|i always forget apt07:32
psychonateSam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch is A LOT different from say High Noon07:32
Forty|apprentice, damn good western to like07:32
Forty|psychonate, how about sundance kid?07:33
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Randall64ride: tar xzvf might be a little easier ...07:33
psychonateForty|, that's a pretty good one07:33
ridejibRandall64: this is true..thx07:33
psychonatePaul Newman is a monster :)07:33
ridejibWhile not a Western, has anyone seen The Boondock Saints?07:34
psychonateyes07:34
psychonateit's alright07:34
ridejibI love that movie07:34
timboondock saints is such a good movie07:34
timtheres a sequel coming out07:34
apprenticei love the boondock saints07:34
tim"all saints day"07:34
apprenticeits so cool07:34
psychonateI like the part when they shoot the cat heh07:34
ridejibYeah, do you know when it is due out?07:34
psychonatebut Pulp Fiction's scene when Marvin gets shot is better07:34
psychonate"Oh man, I think I shot Marvin in the face."07:35
Forty|anyone here know how to disable mplayer and use xine?07:35
timagreed, both are insanely good movies07:35
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apprenticelol that part is funny07:35
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ridejibThe Detective Greenly is a guy name Bob Marley, who happens to be a comedian. I went to see him Live and after the show asked when All Saints Day was coming out, and he seemed shocked I knew they were making it07:35
apprenticelol.07:35
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ridejibToRTuReD_X: any luck with that tar.gz?07:36
apprenticesupport panic?07:36
Madpilotnobody's breaking anything in their installs right at this moment, I guess ;)07:36
psychonatewell, I still don't know why / is not the default directory when I open a terminal or roxfiler07:36
psychonateseems a bit strange07:36
arbirhas to now sleep07:36
ridejibhow do you make irc do something like this "* gpd is in shock that # is not in frenzy of support panic!"07:37
thoreauputicpsychonate: the usual default would be your home dir  /home/username/07:37
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apprenticei am i just calmed down07:37
thoreauputicride type  /me <does something or says something>07:38
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ridejibthoreauputic: thanks07:38
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ubuntuhow do you install AIM?07:38
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shadelandman07:38
shadelandthat was fun07:38
shadelandjust got the ATI drivers installed07:38
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pablo928Hi everyone. How do it set my swap-file size? Seems in the install it was set to 0MB.07:39
Madpilotubuntu: GAIM is installed by default, I think07:39
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ridejibpablo928: have you already partitioned your entire hard drive?07:39
mikeanybody know when ubuntu ...6(?) is coming out?07:39
ridejibmike: Breezy (5.10 i think) is due out in December07:40
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MadpilotOctober for Breezy, I thought07:40
psychonatethoreauputic, I know, but it's not07:40
psychonatethoreauputic, the default changes07:40
psychonateI have no idea why.07:40
ridejibMadpilot: hmm, maybe you are correct. I might be thinking of something else07:40
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thoreauputicpsychonate: it's a conspiracy!07:41
psychonateI just know that it gets changed periodically to a directory that I was in in rox or in a terminal07:41
dooonzguys my firefox is buggering up07:41
dooonzlike all the time07:41
psychonateI don't know why or how07:41
pablo928ridejib-yep, two partitions, Fat32 for WinXp and ext3 for Ubuntu.07:41
ridejibdoonz: have you sprayed it with Raid(TM)?07:41
dooonzyeah07:41
thoreauputicdooonz: could you be a little more vague?07:41
Madpilotdooonz: read the topic?07:42
dooonzhehehe07:42
ridejibDoonz: hmm.. weird. that usually solves my problems07:42
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dooonzsorry07:42
dooonzlet me read the topic07:42
dooonzok read it07:42
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Randall64ridejib: So you're saying the anal rape doesn't bother you, just insects?07:42
ridejibpablo928: you aren't going to be able to create swap space without re-partitioning at least one of those partitions. Have you already installed both operating systems?07:43
dooonzis it on the ubuntuguide.org site a walkthrough howto do it?07:43
MadpilotRandall64: language...07:43
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pablo928ridejib- isn't there a way to manually set the swap-file size?07:43
Randall64Well, you _can_ make a swapfile.07:43
Randall64It's not just recommended.07:43
Randall64s/not just/just not/07:44
Randall64man mkswap07:44
pablo928Any idea why it would set to 0MB by default in install?07:44
Dr_Willisa swap FILE is different then a swap partition.07:44
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dooonzhow do i disable backports?07:44
Randall64pablo: Did you forget to create a swap partition in the installer?07:44
Randall64_Then_ what does the swap partition do?07:45
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ridejibRandall64: I'm confused what the buttlove comment was in regards to? Although humoress, I'm still confused07:45
Dr_Willisyou can use a swap file instead of a swap parttion.. or use a combo of the 2.07:45
thoreauputicridejib: FF "buggering up"07:46
cs378hi, i installed kubuntu, don kinda like kde, cuz of some error, can i start a new installation with ubuntu? (im at dual boot - dont wanna mess up my windows xp)07:46
ridejibhmm.. i must not be familiar with that induendo07:46
ridejibor however you spell it07:46
pablo928Dr_Willis- So how do I set a swapfile?07:46
Randall64It's british slang.07:46
thoreauputicridejib:  dict bugger :) Or look in a web dictionary07:46
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Randall64pablo: man mkswap, search for dd07:47
ridejibRandall64: ah, that would be why..07:47
ridejibthoreauputic: thx07:47
Randall64I just hate repeating myself.07:47
thoreauputicridejib: buggery is more or less "sodomy"07:47
Dr_Willistheres several howtos that tell the exact steps to make a swap file its fairly trivial. You are saying you made NO swap partition then?07:47
cs378anyone?07:47
ridejibthoreauputic: hmm. quite interesting. lol07:47
Madpilothmmmm... is anyone else having trouble getting information from Ubuntu's little Dictionary app?07:48
thoreauputicridejib: there used to be a law that used the phrase " the abominable sin of buggery"07:48
thoreauputic;)07:48
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mrnicehi all07:48
Randall64Now it's just good clean fun.07:48
ridejibcs378: yes. Just install on the partition you set up for kubuntu07:48
mrnicecan I install RPM?07:48
mrnicein ubuntu ?07:48
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Dr_WillisEwww....07:48
ridejibthoreauputic: haha that is quite entertaining07:48
frankshort answer, no07:49
Dr_Willisyou mean install AN rpm?07:49
poningrumrnice: use alien07:49
mrniceyes07:49
thoreauputicMaddy: yes, change the url to test.dict.org07:49
mrniceI Have download rpm pkg07:49
poningru!alien07:49
Randall64mrnice: no, but you can alien it if desperation drives you to madness07:49
levanderNobody here knows how to configure udftools do they?07:49
ubotualien is probably a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/07:49
frankmrnice: use deb instead07:49
cs378ridejib: so its a fresh new installation n it will config the grab thing as well right,(i am a newbie)07:49
thoreauputicMadpilot: sorry tab complete error ^^^07:49
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poningruguys its not always easy to use debs because people dont provide .debs07:49
mrniceI can't find it as deb07:49
ridejibfrank: some software is only released in rpm format07:49
mrniceonly rpm07:49
Madpilotthoreauputic: OK, test.dict.org workd, thanks.07:49
dooonzhow do i disable backports?07:50
Randall64mrnice: What software are you dealing with?07:50
mrnicedjplay07:50
Amaranthponingru: are you talking about autopackage?07:50
levander!udftools07:50
ubotulevander: Bugger all, i dunno07:50
ridejibmrnice: use "alien filename"07:50
thoreauputicMadpilot: the dict.org URL is going through some kind of existential crisis ;-)07:50
mrnicein sourceforge07:50
Mobusbut what's wrong with the GUN ./compile && make && make instasll eh?07:50
MobusGNU*07:50
frankridejib: some... yes but if that happens, I'd say you're better off compiling it yourself07:50
Madpilotthoreauputic: I was afraid it was my Firestarter install buggering up the connection07:50
ridejibmrnice: alien will convert the rpm to a .deb. then you can use sudo dpkg07:50
mrnicethanx alot07:50
mrniceI Will check it out07:50
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ridejib!alien07:50
ubotu[alien]  a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/07:51
Randall64!debian07:51
ubotudebian is, like, The Rock upon which Ubuntu is founded; see http://www.debian.org http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html#contents Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.907:51
thoreauputicMadpilot: nah, just the dict people changing stuff without telling anyone07:51
poningruhahaha07:51
Madpilotthoreauputic: wonderful... </sarcasm>07:51
levanderwhat's the command to tech ubotu a word?07:51
poningruimagine naming a distro after you gf07:51
ridejibponingru: it would be called "satan"07:51
dooonz!porno07:51
ubotuWish i knew, dooonz07:51
Amaranthdooonz: ...07:51
ridejibhahah doonz07:51
poningrudoonz dont teach it shit like that07:52
dooonzaorry07:52
thoreauputiclevander: ubotu <something> is <something else>07:52
Madpilotlevander: "ubotu <word> is <foo>"  - but do it in /msg07:52
Madpilot!list07:52
ubotuhmm... list is at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuFactoids07:52
dooonzit didnt learn anythign anyhow07:52
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poningrunice infobot07:52
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Amaranthdon't do it in msg, it's harder to keep the junk out when i can't see it being set :)07:52
Madpilot"!list" has a URL with all of ubotu's commands - it's searchable07:53
Amaranthwhat the topic meant about what?07:53
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dooonzFirefox problems? Disable backports & uninstall firefox before updating mozilla-firefoxok07:53
ToRTuReD_Xhaha!!07:53
ridejibubotu is the win07:53
uboturidejib: I don't know, could you explain it?07:53
ToRTuReD_Xgot gnome baker working :D07:53
thoreauputicdooonz: the topic only applies if you used backports and have their version of FF07:53
Madpilot!good bot07:53
ubotuthanks madpilot :)07:53
ridejibhaha, sure ubotu. I think you are swell.07:53
Dr_Willis!good boot07:53
ubotuDr_Willis: Are you smoking crack?07:53
dooonzhmm07:53
Dr_Willis:P07:53
dooonzi dont think so07:54
dooonzjust used what came with ubuntu07:54
Madpilotonly one "o" in bot...07:54
helloyoare there any common reasons why games don't work in cedega, the channel is dead, and i'm trying to get sim city 3000 working07:54
dooonzbut it been closing when ever and when i try clicking on a d/l link nothing happens07:54
gpd!list07:54
ubotuI guess list is at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuFactoids07:54
gpdubotu: list07:54
bur[n] erhelloyo: get any errors?07:54
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helloyobur[n] er, nope, just nothing happens when i try to run the game (it installed though)07:55
dooonzim using version 1.0.2 if that helps07:55
thoreauputicgpd: it won't flood the channel with a long list - use /msg ubotu list07:55
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ridejibgood night all07:55
thoreauputicdooonz: sudo apt-get upgrade07:55
ridejibhappy -debuggering07:55
ridejiblol07:55
pablo928Well, I guess I did it now. used "mkswap /dev/hda2" and now can't open any apps.07:55
bur[n] erhelloyo: in that case, i dunno07:55
dooonznothing thoreauputic07:56
thoreauputicdooonz: ?07:56
frankpablo928: lol07:56
poningruuse dp people07:56
poningruseriously if microsoft were incharge of firefox07:56
poningrudp would be out the door in this condition07:57
gpdthoreauputic: is ubotu supybot?07:57
dooonzhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/81507:57
frankpablo928:  was that the right partition?07:57
thoreauputicdooonz: you mean it doesn't tell you anything needs upgrading? In that case something is wrong07:57
pablo928frank-Is tat kinda like reformattin my hd drive?07:57
thoreauputicgpd: ubotu is a blootbot07:57
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GNULinuxerHi jino07:57
poningrupablo928: what are you trying to do?07:57
jinohey07:57
frankpablo928:  well its formating part of it. whatever /hda2 was07:57
jinoi\\\wats up07:57
thoreauputicdooonz: the latest FF in the repos is 1.0.6 now07:58
jinoi have a problem07:58
dooonzhmm07:58
dooonzwhat do i do07:58
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GNULinuxerlo NigelS07:58
jinoGNULinuxer, i bought a new laptop07:58
pablo928frank-I thought it was the right partition. I just wanted to sepup a swapfile  for my memory.07:58
thoreauputicdooonz: do you have a standard /etc/apt/sources.list ?07:58
jinoand installed ubuntu07:58
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GNULinuxerlo feahfuogbcbosw07:58
jinoit doestnt play mp3 and vidieo07:58
thoreauputicdooonz: and have you updated or reloaded synaptic?07:59
poningru!restricted formats07:59
ubotuI guess restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'07:59
feahfuogbcboswGNULinuxer: I have to use this because some jackass keeps taking my real nick >:(07:59
dooonzyeah07:59
frankpablo928: oh you didn't have a swap file before?07:59
GNULinuxerfeahfuogbcbosw: i see :)07:59
dooonzit shows up there07:59
poningrujino: follow whats written on that link07:59
dooonzjust install it?07:59
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poningrujino: let us know if you run into trouble07:59
frankpablo928: you probably formated your linux partition. assuming that is what was in /dev/hda207:59
thoreauputicAgrajag: are you registered?07:59
Agrajagthoreauputic: yes07:59
Agrajagthus I can ghost him and take it back08:00
pablo928frank: for some reason in the install ther wasn't a swapfile setup.08:00
jinoit says mp3 decoder is not present08:00
thoreauputicAgrajag: then do /msg nickserv ghost agrajag <password> if someone steals your nick08:00
frankpablo928: if you partition manually you have to set one up yourself as /dev/hda3 or something08:00
Agrajagyeah... I just said that08:00
poningruubotu: tell jino about !codecs08:00
poningrusigh08:00
jinoyup08:00
poningruubotu: tell jino about codecs08:00
Agrajagit's still damn annoying08:01
dooonz!codecs08:01
poningrujino: did you get that?08:01
thoreauputicAgrajag: ah sorry - slow typist ;)08:01
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:01
Agrajaghah08:01
pablo928well, back to reloading Ubuntu. I'm glad this is my backup box.08:01
frankpablo928: I'm glad about that too!08:01
frankpablo928: when you play with partitions, make sure you know what you're doing08:02
pablo928 frank:and my main box does have a swap file!08:02
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jinoi got da link08:02
poningrucool08:02
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poningrulet me know if you run into any trouble08:02
MrGardenHoseManhow do i display my comp infor on the desktop? cpu, ram, etc08:03
MrGardenHoseManinfo*08:03
pablo928 frank:I'm just surprized that the apps I have open are still functioning.08:03
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frankpablo928: they are already in memory08:03
Dr_WillisMrGardenHoseMan,  tons of little system monitors out there. :P08:03
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Jet2k5does anyone know the proper way to get rid of KDE afte I've downloaded throught apt-get?08:03
frankpablo928: your living in a figment of your computers imagination!08:03
Dr_WillisMrGardenHoseMan,  i think a nice one is called gkrellm or somthing like that.08:03
thoreauputicJet2k5: removing libqt* should pretty much wipe KDE ;)08:04
pablo928 frank: in other word, I no longer have a OS?08:04
MrGardenHoseManthanks08:04
adapterwhat codecs are needed for .wmv to work?08:05
poningrupablo928: whats the prob exactly I havent followed your convo?08:05
thoreauputicMrGardenHoseMan: gkrellm is one example08:05
frankpablo928: not in hda2 for sure. was there a windows in hda1? it wont boot like this but its still there08:05
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poningruadapter: w32codecs08:05
adapterhmm thought I got it already08:05
dooonzyay fixdd08:05
poningruubotu: tell adapter about codecs08:05
poningruadapter: read through that see if there is something else08:06
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pablo928frank- I have WinXP on another partition. I shouldn't have destroyed my MBR.08:06
frankpablo928: the installer will have installed grub on it and grub will not work until you install ubuntu again08:07
adaptersudo apt-get install w32codecs is installed already08:07
adapterare there any other ones?08:07
ColonelKernelif I have a pentium 4 is it better for me to install mplayer-386 or mplayer-586? there isnt a 68608:07
pablo928frank: I'm going to reboot now and see what haPPENS.08:07
thoreauputicColonelKernel: 58608:07
frankwindows wont load now but it will after you install again08:07
pablo928frank: oK i'LL GIVE IT A TRY.  sEE YOU.08:08
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ColonelKernelthankyou08:08
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adaptershould I not use totem player maybe?08:08
jinoponingru, i have added hpary hedge binary repositary08:08
gpdso I'm trying to load this djplay thing from ^^ but it is failing to find libjack.so.0... I could install all the libjack things from apt-cache search but how do I find that file int he apt repositories? not dpkg -S for sure08:08
thoreauputicColonelKernel: fun nick BTW :)08:08
ColonelKernelthanks08:09
ColonelKerneli like to play w kernels08:09
ColonelKernelLinux p4ht 2.6.12-custom #1 SMP Mon Jul 25 22:45:04 PDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux08:09
Randall64gpd: apt-file, works like apt-cache08:09
poningrujino: ?08:09
ColonelKerneljust a shame you cant use vanilla kernels with ubuntu08:09
poningrujino: sorry what were you trying to do again?08:09
levanderlsmod | grep udf08:10
thoreauputicColonelKernel: ex Slacker?08:10
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ColonelKernelex fedora/deb/gentoo08:10
thoreauputicah08:10
poningrujino: were you trying to play mp3 and dvd?08:10
thoreauputicsurely you can't use vanilla kernels with fedora?08:10
jinoponingru, mp308:10
jinoand dvd too08:11
Randall64thore: why not?08:11
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jinoi have a lot of problems08:11
ColonelKerneli used fedora on this box before I switched to ubuntu, there is a nutty op in #fedora who makes the experience unpleasant, so I switched distros08:11
poningrujino: ok what did you do exactly?08:11
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thoreauputicColonelKernel: heheh08:11
jinoi went to repositiories in synaptic08:11
hyphenatedColonelKernel: heh, what a great reason to switch distros08:11
poningrujino: first thing you should ahve done is added the extra repositoreis08:11
ColonelKernelyou can use vanilla kernels on fedora no prob;08:11
poningruright08:11
pablo928frank: You were right. Grub is gone.08:11
jinoand added hoary hedge08:11
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jinowhere do i do that08:11
ColonelKernelhyphenated, he did me a favor, im much happier with ubuntu08:11
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pablo928I' had to switch boxes.08:12
poningrujino: you were on the right path08:12
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jinookie08:12
jinoso08:12
gpdRandall64: apt-file search  libjack.so.0 gives nothing... some testing reveals it doesn't find exisitng files?08:12
jinohow do i move08:12
ColonelKernelI would thank the guy but ive been banned in #fedora since july 8 for no reason08:12
thoreauputic!find libjack.so.008:12
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thoreauputichmm08:13
jinoponingru, i have installed a few media players aswell08:13
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jinobut no use08:13
thoreauputic!find libjack08:13
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'libjack' (4 shown): libjack0.80.0-0 ;; libjack0.80.0-dev ;; libjackasyn-dev ;; libjackasyn0.08:13
gpdthoreauputic: that is apt-cache search libjack08:14
poningrujino: hold on08:14
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libjack.so.0' returned no results.08:14
jinookie08:14
poningrugive me couple of sec08:14
jinookie08:14
thoreauputicgpd: yes, you're right08:14
ColonelKerneli checked out deb testing but it doesnt use gnome 2.10 OR xorg08:14
gpdthoreauputic: that is easy... but finding a specific file in the repository i have not achieved08:14
ColonelKernelI wasnt very happy with that08:14
mikolg ngapain?08:14
thoreauputicgpd: in theory apt-file should do it if it exists... puzzling08:15
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gpdthoreauputic: does apt-file require the full path?08:15
Randall64gpd: Did you apt-file update?08:15
gpdRandall64: no... i'll try08:15
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Randall64heh08:15
kozlykwhat is libjack for?08:15
thoreauputicgpd: I don't think so08:15
poningrujino back08:16
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Randall64gpd: It's like apt-cache in that it relies on having actual data to search ;)08:16
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gpdthoreauputic: Randall64 I assumed it was using the apt-get database08:16
Randall64gpd: I probably assumed that too.08:16
poningruok so you added universe and multiverse right?08:16
gpdRandall64: thoreauputic seems to be downloading Contents-xxx.gz interesting...08:16
jinoi din add multivers08:17
Randall64Just who is he talking to?08:17
jinoi have installed gstream now08:17
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jinofrom package manager08:17
jinowill that do?08:17
airmikey_anyone here get mplayer to play movies on laptop ?08:17
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ricosuave17bob2: what resolution do u use?08:17
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jinoponingru, should i add multiverse too08:18
adapterhmm mplayer won't even work08:18
adapterit just freezes up08:18
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poningrujino: yes08:18
jinookie08:18
thoreauputicricosuave17: do a /whois bob2 - I'd say he's away >> [bob2]  is away (lunch)08:18
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Randall64adapter: What's the last line in your terminal?08:18
adapterI wasn't loading it from there08:19
poningrujino: actually for mp3 you shouldnt need the multiverse08:19
poningrugstreamer0.8-mad08:19
poningruinstall that package08:19
ricosuave17weird its 2:19 am for me08:19
adapterit is already08:19
adapterand so are all the codecs08:19
adapteryet it won't play a .wmv08:19
ToRTuReD_Xi got a q08:20
thoreauputicricosuave17: funny eh? There's a world out there, mate08:20
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ToRTuReD_Xis there any software to hook up mp3 players in ubuntu08:20
Randall64adapter: What errors are you getting?08:20
ToRTuReD_Xlike a creative audio mp3 player08:20
jinoponingru, i have installed it08:20
ricosuave17thoreauputic:  u british08:20
jinoshould i restart08:20
adapterI'm not seeing any errors08:20
gpddoes bob2 get paid for this?08:20
thoreauputicricosuave17: nope08:20
poningrujino: no need08:20
jinowat shall i do08:21
jinokillall?08:21
poningrutry playing an mp3 player08:21
jinookie08:21
ricosuave17american08:21
ricosuave17?08:21
cafuegogpd: Only in karma08:21
Randall64adapter: wow, mplayer is insanely verbose most of the time08:21
bob2gpd: no08:21
poningrujino restart the music player if its already open08:21
bob2I get anti-paid by not doing real work08:21
adaptera .mpg just froze it too08:22
gpdbob2: hard luck :(08:22
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adapterbut .mpg will work fine in totem08:22
thoreauputicricosuave17: erm - right click my name in xchat and look at the country...08:22
ricosuave17hey bob2 did u enjoy ur lunch08:22
ricosuave17COOL I LOVE AUSSIE08:22
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jinoponingru,  my previous player is open08:22
Randall64I just know this hours-long resize2fs is going to blow away all my data.08:22
jinoand it has hanged08:22
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jinohow do i close it08:22
poningrujino: force kill08:22
poningrujino: go to application08:23
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poningrusystem08:23
cafuegojino: "hung" - "hanged" is with a rope ;-)08:23
jinothanx08:23
poningrusytem tools I mean08:23
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poningruand then click on system monitor08:23
ToRTuReD_Xwell08:23
poningrufind your player08:23
adapterhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs is all I need right?08:23
bob2ricosuave17: yes, thanks08:23
bob2poningru: you really don't08:23
ToRTuReD_Xstill gotta install java for mozilla when i get back08:23
poningrubob2: ?08:23
ricosuave17bob2: were in the world r u08:23
bob2ricosuave17: australia08:24
poningruif its hanged then it must be killed08:24
jinoponingru,  how08:24
ricosuave17cool is it 2 pm for u08:24
Randall64If it's hanged, it's surely dead already.08:24
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bob2ricosuave17: why?08:24
bob2if you have ubuntu questions, ask them in the channel08:24
cafuegoRandall64: might still be twitching08:24
cafuegoricosuave17: No, bob2 is not in perth.08:24
Randall64cafuego: That's hardly a threat to anyone though.08:24
gpdthoreauputic: Randall64 some interesting things emerge... alien ignores obvious dependency for libjack.so.0... ubuntu does not have said file anywhere... apt-file is useful but needs to be updated independently from apt-get... libjack0.80.0 is clearly far newer than djplay... djplay is probably not worth installing ;)08:24
poningrujino: find your music player08:24
adaptergod damn I wish this would work08:24
adapterI would think it would08:25
jinoxmmx08:25
light_punch2is gcc in the ubuntu cd? if not, distrowatch should not include it there.08:25
adapterif other files types play08:25
jinoxmms i mean08:25
cafuegoRandall64: it might lose bowel control at someone ;-)08:25
Randall64Isn't libjack that thing that replaced that other thing?08:25
ricosuave17oh ok i know a goth girl from perth08:25
bob2ricosuave17: ah, misinterprted you, sorry.  it's 162408:25
Randall64Maybe ubuntu still has that other thing.08:25
Randall64Better alien libjack!08:25
poningrujino: did you shut it down?08:26
jinono08:26
poningrualso to play music I would recomend rythmbox08:26
poningrudid you find xmms?08:26
jinowhere do i08:26
ricosuave17bob2: im curious about ur age just so i know if u go to school or not08:26
poningruin system tools08:26
Randall64You want juk!08:26
poningruin system monitor08:26
bob2ricosuave17: 22, no I'm not currently at school08:26
joe_1234help allchanl08:26
Randall64What's your name, girl, what's your sign?08:26
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poningrujino: click on application08:26
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poningruclick on system tools08:27
poningruclick on system monitor08:27
thoreauputiclight_punch2:  apt-cache policy build-essential ; apt-cache show build-essential08:27
poningruand find xmms08:27
bob2joe_1234: you don't seem to have asked a question yet08:27
thoreauputiclight_punch2: it's on the cd08:27
ricosuave17bob2: do u know this school helena college08:27
bob2ricosuave17: n08:27
bob2o08:27
cafuegobob2: it's to do with stopping a time reversal accident08:27
jinoyup it is done08:28
bob2haha08:28
gpdbob2: in case you don't know 'school' in the USA means anything from kindergarten to PhD...08:28
bob2gpd: yeah, I gathered that08:28
poningrujino: now open up rythmbox08:28
adapteroh well until I figure this out it's all .mpegs for me :P08:28
cafuegoricosuave17: There are tends of thousands of schools in asutralia. Australia is larger than the US.08:28
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Randall64And a "rubber" outside the US can be an eraser.08:28
gpdin the UK school stops at 16...so the question is fairly insulting... probably the same in Oz...08:28
ricosuave17i know but this school is in perth08:28
hyphenatedgpd: and there's very little difference in content ;-)08:29
cafuegoricosuave17: It's anot  ahappy small village where everyone knows everyone08:29
jinoi din install rythmbox08:29
gpdI am british but I live in LA...08:29
ricosuave17dude i know08:29
poningrujino: just use your player then08:29
poningruits no big deal08:29
ricosuave17gpd: cool im going to become a british citizen08:29
bob2ricosuave17: perth's a long way from here08:29
poningrubut I like rythmbox08:29
thoreauputicricosuave17: perth is a fair sized city08:29
cafuegothough it on occasion seems to be, in melbourne :-/08:29
poningruits each persons choice08:29
ToRTuReD_XgDesklets are the same as wiki's in windows rights?08:29
jinobut it doesnt work08:29
poningruanyway try playing an mp3 song08:29
jinoi tried08:29
poningru?08:29
cafuegoperth is nice, /me was there last weekend08:29
kozlykdoes ubuntu and gnome let me know when new updates are available?08:30
jinomy player08:30
poningruoh08:30
ToRTuReD_Xthose things that sit on your desktop with hard drive info speed etc08:30
bob2kozlyk: yes08:30
poningruhehe oops08:30
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ricosuave17it should08:30
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poningrugstream-mad is for rythmbox only08:30
poningruinstall w32codecs08:30
cafuegoPerth has ~ 1 million inhabitants08:30
poningruand gstreamer0.8-plugins08:30
pablo928 bob2- I'm doing a reinstall on my backup box. If I upgrade to Breezy will it at least boot?08:31
jinoi have installed that08:31
kozlykhow does one go about force quitting a stalled app.  my mplayer is sitting pretty dead right now...08:31
poningrujino: both of them?08:31
poningruhmm weird08:31
jinonope08:31
jinowin32 codecs08:31
cafuegokozlyk: terminal, ps x, find the PID, kill -9 <pid>08:31
bob2pablo928: X won't start08:31
Randall64kozlyk: ctrl-c`08:31
poningruyeah install gstreamer0.8-plugins as well08:31
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shawarmakozlyk: If you're running gnome, clicking the close-button on the window usually does the trick. If the app doesn't die properly a popup appears asking if you want to have it killed.08:32
pablo928 bob2- still won't? that's why I had to do a reinstall about 2 weeks ago.08:32
poningrushadeland: that doesnt work all the time08:32
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jinodone08:32
poningruatleast for me08:32
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bob2pablo928: X is being completly re-done08:32
poningrujino: make sure to reastart xmms08:32
bob2it's a mammoth task08:32
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jinookie08:32
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nJesshow do i disable the scrolling edges of my laptop trackpad?08:32
kozlykshawarma:  I have hit the close button a few times, and the mplayer sits there with a nice blue screen.  I think i was trying to see if my w32codecs worked properly :)08:33
poningrujino: now play mp308:33
pablo928 bob2- are they still going to use xserver-xorg?08:33
poningruan*08:33
bob2pablo928: yes08:33
Randall64kozlyk: try xkill08:33
bob2pablo928: the packaging is being completly changed (e.g. it's being split into lots and lots of tiny little .debs)08:33
bob2which will be geat in the future, since you can swap them out08:33
bob2and fix them more easily08:33
shawarmakozlyk: I see.08:34
gpdbob2: you have a linode don't you... you occasionally surface in there ;)08:34
kozlykrandall64: worked like a charm.  First time i hit the bottom bar (silly me), but it restarted :)08:34
thoreauputicbob2: will these changes go to debian sid as well ?08:34
pablo928 bob2-I guess I'll just have to stay with Hoary for the time being. I don't really like command line all that well.08:35
bob2gpd: heh, yeah, usually only when it breaks08:35
jinoponingru,  it doesnt work08:35
Randall64kozlyk: boom!08:35
Razor-Xmmmm, i'm liking ZSH more and more as I read about it ;)08:35
poningruhmm08:35
elshaanyone have experience with webcams and ubuntu?08:35
Randall64ZSH IS GREAT08:35
bob2thoreauputic: yeah, the debian X people are stabilising the old tree in sid before they break it all again, tho ;)08:35
gpdbob2: me too :)  caker++08:35
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thoreauputicbob2: ah i see - thanks :)08:35
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fdhow do i kill my gnome panel08:35
fdeven if i cant see it08:35
Razor-Xall i've done insofar, though, is change my prompt from %m%# ;)08:36
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poningrujino: I have no clue, try restarting the computer08:36
poningrualthough that should make no diff08:36
jinohow do i get rythmox08:36
poningruits in synaptic08:36
Randall64jino: The way you get everything else?08:36
Madpilotrythymbox? it's installed by default, isn't it?08:36
thoreauputicjino: rhythmbox is the default player in ubuntu08:36
gpdeverybody here... go buy a linode virtual server and install ubuntu :)08:36
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Randall64gpd: why?08:37
gpdRandall64: best server I ever had... your own root box on a VERY fat pipe :)08:37
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poningrujino: rythmbox is the music player under sound & video08:38
fdhow do i list the process im runing08:38
Randall64gpd: fair enough, now go buy a mac08:38
thoreauputicfd: ps aux  lists the lot08:38
rob^I can't remember who it was, but for those intrested there is a draft of Beep Media Player + Plugins Guide at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer08:38
jinowher do i find sound and vidio08:39
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thoreauputicfd: pgrep <process> finds a particular pid08:39
gpdRandall64: I have a dual 2Gig G5 at work... very nice :)08:39
gpdRandall64: but I am not sure of the significance...08:39
poningrujino: under applications08:39
poningrujino: if it still doesnt work take a look at this08:40
poningruhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs08:40
poningrutry installing all of that08:40
Randall64gpd: Well, you offered me a server, so I at least had to offer you a desktop.08:40
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rob^!bmp08:40
uboturob^: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about08:40
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rob^ubotu bmp is a guide to Beep Media Player and Plugins, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer08:41
uboturob^: okay08:41
Razor-Xthoreauputic: there's a pgrep?08:41
gpdRandall64: fair enough... but seriously, check them out linode.com ... (I don't work for them)08:41
Razor-Xhah, I just use normal grep meself ;)08:41
thoreauputicRazor-X: sure is :)08:41
Razor-Xps -e | grep blah08:41
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Razor-Xdunno why you should use aux to grep08:41
hyphenatedI use fuser /path/to/program to get pids08:41
Razor-X-e is the nicest to grep, IMO ;)08:41
thoreauputicRazor-X: it's good for lazy typists like me ;)08:42
thoreauputicpgrep i mean08:42
Razor-Xthoreauputic: or, you can make an alias ;)08:42
Amaranthrob^: i think you wanted info :)08:42
Razor-XI think I shall08:42
Amaranth!info beep-media-player08:42
thoreauputicRazor-X: true08:42
ubotubeep-media-player: (Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9.7-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 893 kB, Installed size: 3712 kB08:42
Razor-Xthoreauputic: ZSH kicks ass ;)08:42
rob^Amaranth, no someone else did, I just finished writing a guide for it08:42
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Amaranthrob^: I mean the !info command :)08:42
Computer__Guruokay, i decided to check out python.. im using boa constructor, and i LOVE how it works.. the question that I have is this: Is the a way to use pyGTK instead of wxPython? wxPython is hideous08:43
rob^Amaranth, yeah I know that one.. someone asked me about the guide earlier08:43
ToRTuReD_Xrob08:43
ToRTuReD_Xhow ya goin mate?08:44
Razor-Xbeep-media-player needs a guide? ;)08:44
ricosuave17nop it needs a beep08:44
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Razor-XI'm one of the few programmers (I think) that likes to write verbose documentation ;)08:44
{Phoinix}Hello, I'm having a great problem with my ubuntu system. Everything was well ,until i tried to install Vmware for linux. The installation was succesefully but now whenever i am issuing a sudo command in the shell the shell crashes... it does not respond to ctrl-c. Moreover i can't use synaptic and i can't use everything that needs root priveleges..08:45
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Razor-XI think I should make some BASHPodder documentation08:45
bob2{Phoinix}: surely vmware gives you support now you paid for their product?08:45
Razor-Xbob2: that's evil ;)08:45
poningrujino: did it work?08:45
frankis gaim still working? kopete just stopped working?08:45
bob2no, loading binary only drivers into your kernel means only the binary driver supplier can help08:45
{Phoinix}bob2, i didn't pay it ;-)... ANd i don't know if the problem come 100% from vmware08:46
Razor-Xbob2: because most people that use VMWare don't pay for it08:46
bob2{Phoinix}: does thae problem recur if you don't load the modules?08:46
{Phoinix}I haven't notice.. I'l try to delete the modules tha vmware uses an try again.. U think that the vmware modules caused the problem?08:46
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bob2you need to reboot before checking08:47
gpdbeware of pirated vmware... they somehow find your email address...08:47
gpdwhy did xmms fork to bmp?  politics?08:47
Razor-Xalso, someone sorely needs to make a more efficient internet shorthand than netspeak08:48
bob2I'd assume because the xmms people rightly considered it feature complete08:48
Razor-Xand make an in build parser for it08:48
bob2all bmp does is use gtk and have less plugins08:48
Razor-Xs/in build/in-built/08:48
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Razor-Xnetspeak is a mixture of goobledygook someone thought was needed one day....08:48
Razor-Xanyone willing to discuss it with me in offtopic?08:49
{Phoinix}bob2, if i unload the vmware modules and try? Must i reboot?08:49
Razor-X{Phoinix}: one of the few instances, yes ;)08:49
bob2{Phoinix}: of course08:49
bob2the module has already crapped all over your kernel08:49
{Phoinix}So vmware is a crappy program.. :-(08:49
IIIEarsRazor-X sry - IMHO IDM - grin08:49
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frank{Phoinix}: i had no problems with vmware. What version do you have?08:49
Razor-XIIIEars: IDM? ;)08:50
Razor-Xmy netspeak sucks08:50
{Phoinix}frank, 5.. something08:50
bob2{Phoinix}: no idea, but it's not in ubuntu, and no one but vmware can fix potetnail problems with it08:50
Razor-Xbecause I use none08:50
frankbuild 13124?08:50
Razor-Xnot even ``u''08:50
Razor-Xwhich is pretty common08:50
Razor-Xthat's why I suggest the inbuilt parses08:50
Razor-Xanyways, I don't want to clog the channel with what doesen't belong08:50
Razor-Xs/parses/parser/08:50
{Phoinix}bob2, is this is a common problem with vmware modules?08:51
bob2I have no idea08:51
Razor-X{Phoinix}: not many people use VMWare08:51
IIIEarsRazor-X - nice idea. -08:51
Razor-Xmost use QEMU08:51
bob2but really, it's proprietary software, you need support from the vendor08:51
{Phoinix}QEMU.. i'll google it. Thanks08:51
bob2there's little anyone else can do to fix it08:51
bob2qemu isn't a replacement for vmware08:51
Razor-XQEMU is free, which also means an IRC team for support08:51
{Phoinix}But now.. priority no1 is to fix my ubuntu installation :-(08:51
Razor-Xbob2: but it's the closest08:51
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Razor-Xspeed-wise, anyways08:52
cs378nice, gnome is much better than kde except for its look hmmm08:52
kozlykhey if i open up my xp computer for file sharing, is there anything in ubuntu i have to do to see the directories?08:52
bob2kozlyk: places -> network in gnome08:52
IIIEarscs378 - Gnome is nearly as customisable.08:52
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kozlykbob2: i have done that and it shows the xp laptop but no directories08:53
cs378IIIEars: yes it is, this is my 5 th day usin linux haha08:53
bob2kozlyk: is the XP machine sharing any directories08:53
IIIEarsWelcome! :)08:53
kozlykyeah C and a 'share' directory08:53
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DekaPinkHow can I stop Ubuntu to stop trying to sync the clock with whatever when it's booting up since it never works anyway? ^^;08:54
cs378brb, gonna test my wireless08:54
{Phoinix}i tryied to uninstall sudo.. with apt-get remove sudo. but apt decided that it should uninstall a banch of other crussial programs along with it like gdm08:54
thoreauputicDekaPink: ctrl-c  or look at man update-rc.d08:54
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drewwhy would you uninstall sudo? o_O08:54
bob2{Phoinix}: er, don't do that08:54
jinoSeveas, plz help me instaling an mp3 player08:55
IIIEars16,272 free apps available with apt-get/synaptic - more on the open source sites freshmeat.net and sourceforge08:55
jinoi have tried a lot08:55
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{Phoinix}bob2, ok.. i hope only deleting the modules and crapy vmware will solve the problem08:55
cafuegoIt's good when the new VPN works right.08:55
frank{Phoinix}: try to run the uninstall script08:55
cs378_wow ubuntu wireless work out of the box, the kubuntu didnt work niceee hahaha08:55
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shidowhat can I use to graphically edit partitions under ubuntu?08:56
Razor-Xcs378_: did you reinstall?08:56
kozlykbob2: any ideas?  I have C sharing and folder under it...08:56
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{Phoinix}frank, what script? Vmware script?08:56
frankshido: gparted or qparted08:56
bob2kozlyk: no, sorry08:56
thoreauputicDekaPink: sorry I should have mentioned the process is ntpdate08:56
Razor-Xor did you just download Gnome, cs378_ ?08:56
frank{Phoinix}: ill check to make sure it does exist :-)08:56
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shidothanks08:57
Razor-Xshido: qtparted is real nice08:57
shidoinstalling now08:57
cs378_Razor-X: yes, i did a fresh install to ubuntu08:57
shidodone...08:57
ray_anybody know how to change the background image for kdm?08:57
shidoqtparted?08:57
shidook, I'll install that, too08:57
Razor-Xcs378_: probably the version's gone up08:57
frank{Phoinix}: sudo vmware-uninstall.pl08:57
Razor-Xshido: qparted isn't a package08:57
Razor-Xleast, I don't think so08:57
jinobob2, will u plz help08:57
{Phoinix}frank.. I CAN"T USE sudo.. that's my problem08:57
Razor-Xnope08:57
DekaPinkthoreauputic, thanks. :D08:57
jinoi need mp3 player on linux08:57
bob2jino: that's really annoying08:57
cs378_Razor-X: maybe, after install, i did update 36 files i think08:57
bob2jino: also, you didn't even read the FAQ08:57
shidoOOOh, thanks08:57
{Phoinix}frank, I want to uninstall vmware and it's modules so that the sudo command will not crash anymore08:58
bob2jino: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:58
Razor-Xcs378_: there's no difference between the two except the WM08:58
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Micksableagh.08:58
Razor-Xso, Wireless shouldn't work in one and not the other08:58
frank{Phoinix}: you'll have to use a live cd or something probably08:58
Razor-X{Phoinix}: unload the modules, restart, and uninstall08:58
cs378_Razor-X: don kno, im a newbie, i just got lots of errors usin kde, hope gnome dont gives me error08:58
{Phoinix}ok.. I hope i won't have to format :-(((((08:58
frankRazor-X: but he can't use sudo08:59
Razor-Xcs378_: just saying, Credit given where Credit's due08:59
Razor-Xfrank: ahhh hmmmm08:59
Razor-Xtry a boot floppy08:59
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tkieselWhat's up Micksa?08:59
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La_PaRCaHey. I am trying to setup xchat to use tor via privoxy but its not working. What are the steps I need to take?08:59
{Phoinix}I am lucky.. because i have activated the root password before the problem appeared. With sudo passwd root!! :-)08:59
mebaranhey08:59
{Phoinix}And i can use su09:00
shidoi like gparted09:00
mebarancould anyone help me setup my Via Envy Onboard Sound?09:00
shidoa lot!09:00
frank{Phoinix}: oh great!09:00
Razor-Xshido: qtparted is much better09:00
Razor-Xgparted is pretty old09:00
cs378_Razor-X: thx again, u were a great help b4 while i was usin kde hehe09:00
frank{Phoinix}: then you can run the uninstall script09:00
Razor-Xcs378_: heh09:00
shidoI finally got my first sata drive09:00
Razor-Xwell, like I said, i'm a KDE user through and through (when I use a GUI)09:00
tkieselLa_PaRCa: Have you tried setting the proxy up in X-Chat's network settings?09:00
kozlykbob2: would ubuntu have difficulties accessing a xp drive with NTFS?09:00
{Phoinix}ok frank , i 'l try it !!! thanks09:00
shidoand wanted to move my xp partition to it09:00
shidobut decided... screw xp09:00
bob2kozlyk: read-only? no.09:00
Razor-Xkozlyk: it can read and execute, but not write09:00
mebaranI dont know why it isnt making dev/dsp09:01
mebaranit loads a module09:01
mebaranbut I dont know what the module shouldbe09:01
mebaranVia Envy09:01
bob2kozlyk: if you mean over smb, of course not, it doesn't know or care what filesystem the underlying drive is09:01
mebaranVia Envy 24PT to be exact09:01
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bob2mebaran: so, you googled and found nothing?09:01
kozlyki can send files no problem via samba from xp to ubuntu09:01
{Phoinix}The irony is that vmware worls perfectly.... lol. But it tottaly messed up my system09:01
loolquitte: yes?09:01
kozlykjust i can only see the xp computer on the ubuntu network window09:02
bob2thats not irony, it's a bug09:02
kozlykno drives09:02
frank{Phoinix}: that is really strange. vmware worked fine for me in ubuntu and kubuntu09:02
mebaraneh that is a good idea09:02
Razor-Xmebaran: ;)09:02
Razor-Xfrank: wow, you're rich ;)09:02
La_PaRCatkiesel, yes, but when I do, I cant get a connection, and I dont even see a request in privoxy09:02
Razor-XWindows gives me headaches nowadays :(09:03
frankRazor-X: oh yes... ;-)09:03
mebaranRazor-X, me too09:03
mebaran(devices that arent files ... bah)09:03
Razor-Xmebaran: for most, it's the other way 'round ;)09:03
tkieselLa_PaRCa: Do you have any otehr applications successfully using Privoxy to reach Tor?09:03
kozlykjust says it can't display all the contents of that computer09:03
MadpilotRazor-X: heh09:03
La_PaRCatkiesel, yes, firefox09:03
{Phoinix}frank, i don't know.. The system worked fine before the vmware installation.. Maybe the problem appeared because i have altered the ubuntu kernel with one from kernel.org. Vannilla09:03
tkieselLa_PaRCa: And equivalent settings in X-Chat don't work?09:03
mebaranRazor-X, and automounting sucks!09:04
Razor-Xmebaran: totally09:04
Razor-Xand their GUI sucks ass09:04
frank{Phoinix}: did your kernel headers match the running kernel??09:04
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Razor-Xeven 9wm is superior to the Windows GUI09:04
mebaranok it loads the correct module09:04
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mebaranice172409:04
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La_PaRCatkiesel, I have tried with host:127.0.0.1 port:8118 type:HTTP and it didnt work09:04
{Phoinix}frank, Yes09:04
nJessquestion: can linux see that i am pressing the bluetooth button on my laptop, if when i press it, it lights up, and if so, how can i check?09:04
c0alIf i want to disable a service that is in /etc/init.d/  - should i just delete the file or is there a better way to do it?09:04
tkieselLa_PaRCa: Is Privoxy only configured to use certain ports, either inbound or outbound? (Like say, port 80 for web browsing)09:05
mebaranbut it doesnt make the /dev/dsp09:05
bob2nJess: highly machine-specific09:05
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bob2nJess: it might just be hardware physically detaching the BT module from the machine09:05
thoreauputicc0al: man update-rc.d09:05
nJesswell, is there anyway to tell if linux is registering a keypress?09:05
La_PaRCatkiesel, um, not sure... it is using the default configuration09:05
c0althoreauputic, thanks much! :)09:05
bob2nJess: try 'tail -f /var/log/messages' while doing it09:05
frank{Phoinix}: could it be that vmware still made a mistake. Or maybe the kernel you have is too new and vmware's modules don't work well with it09:05
tkieselHrrrrrm.09:05
bob2nJess: it would be unlikely yo be a keypress09:05
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nJessbob2, when i press it in windows, i get an error on screen telling me i have no bluetooth device to enable09:05
bob2it might be an acpi event09:05
nJessso what would that be?09:05
mebaranso bob2 how do I make udev make /dev/dsp09:06
{Phoinix}frank, it's 2.6.12.209:06
bob2again, depends09:06
bob2mebaran: by loading the right module09:06
shidoanyone used cedega for ubuntu?09:06
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mebaranbob2, I think the module is loade09:06
{Phoinix}frank, it's new :-)09:06
mebarand09:06
shidofrom transgaming.com09:06
mebarangoogle says it is ice172409:06
frank{Phoinix}: maybe vmware doesn't work well with 2.6.12...09:06
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mebaranand I have snd_ice172409:06
{Phoinix}nayby...09:06
{Phoinix}mayby..09:06
mebaranI think alsa is misconfigured09:06
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bob2mebaran: I think it isn't09:07
{Phoinix}shido, i have.. but i wish i didn't09:07
nJessbob2, can i pm you?09:07
bob2nJess: are you going to give me money?09:07
frank{Phoinix}: oh well, you brought this on yourself, most likely. :)09:07
bob2I don't know anything else to suggest, sorry09:07
nJessbob2, probably not :)09:07
bob2aside from doing lots of googling and asking on the acpi list09:07
tkieselLa_PaRCa: Have you tried setting the type of proxy in X-Chat to somethign other than HTTP?  I'm reading a howto here that I grabbed off of Google, and I think they're using an irc client through Privoxy.. type Socks4..  or 509:07
nJessi want to pm you my console output when i pressed that button09:07
{Phoinix}frant ;-) shido, u can find it in amule, or a lot of torrrent sites ;-)09:08
bob2nJess: #flood09:08
{Phoinix}frank ;-) shido, u can find it in amule, or a lot of torrrent sites ;-)09:08
bob2warez is off-topic09:08
{Phoinix}sorry,,,09:08
bob2with a zero tolerance policy, sorry09:08
bob2nJess: it's a keypress then09:08
La_PaRCatkiesel, when I use HTTP it returns a 403 error, when I use any of the other types it just times out09:08
tkieselLa_PaRCa: Check this out. "The rule of thumb is that if the program uses web protocols have it connect via port 8118 to use Privoxy, if it doesn't have it connect as if to a Socks4 application proxy on port 9050."09:08
nJessbob2, so that means i can set it to do something?09:09
tkieselLa_PaRCa: Different port.09:09
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bob2nJess: yes, but it may not be simple09:09
bob2ie X doesn't have a key symbol for it09:09
rootLa_PaRCa: tkiesel: tor?09:09
nJesswhat if i simply want the key to launch a program?09:09
mebaranbob2, what do you recommend I do09:09
mebaranit looks like the right module is loaded09:10
Razor-XnJess: load xev in a Terminal09:10
Razor-Xpress the button09:10
La_PaRCaroot, yeah09:10
Razor-Xand see if anything happens09:10
tkieselroot: X-Chat -> Privoxy -> Tor I believe..  Maybe.09:10
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bob2mebaran: you know alsa hardware modules don't produce /dev/dsp, right?09:10
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nJessRazor-X, i already know it registers as a keypress09:10
mebaranbob2, actually no09:10
mebaranI did not09:10
rootLa_PaRCa: tkiesel #tor can help09:10
bob2mebaran: do you have snd_pcm_oss loaded?09:10
Razor-XnJess: then you bind it09:10
La_PaRCatkiesel, if I use 9050 I am not going thru privoxy... which kinda makes sense09:10
GudyUbuntuhi, should I be able to play mp3 tracks out of the box? or is there something I need to install?09:10
Razor-Xyou can use your terminal to bind it, your shell, whatever09:10
mebaranbob2, yep, according to lsmod it's there09:11
tkieselLa_PaRCa: Ahh. Interesting.  Hmm.09:11
Razor-XI believe screen can bind it too09:11
GammaRaydo any gtk1 apps use fontconfig?09:11
ToRTuReD_Xguys09:11
Razor-X!tell GudyUbuntu about restrictedformats09:11
bob2GudyUbuntu: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:11
ToRTuReD_Xcedega just asked for my cvs password09:11
bob2GudyUbuntu: which is linked from the FAQ09:11
ToRTuReD_Xwhat is it?09:11
bob2ToRTuReD_X: #cedega09:11
tkieselLa_PaRCa: Here's the document I'm checking out. Maybe it has info you can use? http://www.jgmnet.org/torfaq.html09:11
bob2(hit enter)09:11
Razor-XToRTuReD_X: if you're using anonymous, it's probably blang09:11
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Computer__Guruwhat's the package that builds using pygtk?09:12
mebaranbob2, so where to next09:12
Computer__Guruand how does it compare to boa?09:12
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bob2your question is wrong, but python2.4-gtk209:12
mebaranI also have snd_ac97_codec09:12
bob2mebaran: good luck09:13
mebaranbob2... arg09:13
Computer__Gurubob2:  i meant what ide-package09:13
bob2Computer__Guru: there is no ide09:13
GammaRaydo apps typically directly link against freetype? because ldd /usr/bin | grep freetype gives me nothing.09:13
GammaRayldd /usr/bin/* rather09:13
Computer__Gurubob2:  ill scroll back and see what you said, nevermind09:13
bob2Computer__Guru: you use glade-2 to produce the xml file, then you have your pygtk program load that09:13
Computer__Guruhuh09:14
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Computer__Guruso its not an ide09:14
bob2correct09:14
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bob2you seem very IDE-focused for some reason09:14
oatishow the hell can I exit out of kde so that I can install my nvidia driver? (it requires me to quit kde)09:14
bob2GammaRay: firefox does09:14
bob2oatis: no, it doesn't, the instructions are wrong09:14
Computer__Gurubecause i *like* ide's.. especially intuitive ones09:15
bob2oatis: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:15
bob2er09:15
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bob2how can you like IDEs in particular?  have you used the visual basic 3 one?09:15
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bob2anyway, find a nice editor and use glade-209:15
oatisokay well the installation script is asking me to quit, it will not let me go any further09:15
bob2oatis: so, read that URL09:15
bob2it's far easier than wxwindows09:15
frankoatis: ctrl -alt delete09:15
frankoatis: its the official drivers?09:15
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frankoatis: you can use synaptic, you know?09:16
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LED_scorchedis there a program out there for IMing inside ones LAN?09:16
parca_Hello. Why do you have people using Tor banned from the channel?09:16
oatisfrank, no I didn't realize that, thanks09:16
IIIEarsbob2 - can i read a connection log in real time by using the "tail -f /path/to/net_file - Which file would i tail?09:16
Computer__Gurubob2:  i like boa constructor.. can i use that to create apps then use glade-2 to apply pygtk? sorry to ask so many questions.. im treading new ground here.. but i have a couple of apps, i reallyw ant to put together09:16
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bob2IIIEars: no, you can't09:17
bob2IIIEars: tcpdump is probably what you want09:17
IIIEarsbob2 - thanks :)09:17
bob2Computer__Guru: no, boa constructor is for wxwidgets09:17
ricosuave17how can i change gnomes window manager?09:17
bob2Computer__Guru: if you like the code editor so much, you could of course use that09:17
IIIEarsAh great - next stop tldp.org. :)09:17
LED_scorchedis there a program out there for IMing inside ones LAN?09:17
zerboxxricosuave17: Do you mean to change metacity to openbox?09:18
c0alLED_scorched, linpopup09:18
bob2IIIEars: if the data flow isn't too big, "sudo tcpdump -i eth0" in a big terminal is enough to get started09:18
c0aland it can IM between windows boxes that have winpopup09:18
Computer__Guruno, i like that it builds the way it does. the properties inspector, the drag and drop for buttons, etc.. what I would like is an ide like that for pygtk.. does such a thing exist?09:18
cafuegoWhat is intuituve about IDEs anyway?09:18
bob2Computer__Guru: have you even looked at glade-2 yet?09:18
tkieselLED_scorched: I haven't a clue. I'd imagine there's something like that available though. You might try searching for intranet IM programs.  You can run your own Jabber server on your LAN and use that, which might be the best solution.09:18
cafuegoif they were intuitive you wouldn't need all that GUI help shite09:18
bob2Computer__Guru: go try it instead of complaining about missing features09:18
ricosuave17yeap yeap zerboxx09:18
bob2Computer__Guru: it's a full gui designer09:18
zerboxxricosuave17: Is that exactly it? or were you planning on using something else?09:19
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GammaRayThis is driving me nuts. No matter what I do I just can't get good looking non anti-aliased fonts(the MS ones). On all my other ubuntu boxes all I have to do is dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig and pick the use of the bytecode interperer. But this one box where I installed using the "server/low end" install, I just can't get it working. I've even installed freetype from source in /opt manually uncommenting a #define in freetype and 09:19
ricosuave17i had downloaded openbox and i didnt know what to do with but i read a tutorial and it said i can change gnomes window manager09:19
zerboxxricosuave17: Alright, I just did that yesterday :)09:20
resiakGammaRay: Truncated at "uncommenting a #define in freetype and"09:20
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ricosuave17is openbox nice?09:20
zerboxxricosuave17: I love it so far :D09:20
cafuegoricosuave17: try it and see09:20
GammaRayresiak: odd.. I see it all here09:20
resiakGammaRay: Right... because you see what your client sent, which was above the IRCnet's length limit.09:21
GammaRaybah09:21
ricosuave17ok i have openbox downloaded how do i install it over gnome?09:21
zerboxxricosuave17: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3423909:21
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tkieselGammaRay: Is the bytecode interpreter superior to autohinting?09:21
stevenhello09:21
zerboxxsteven: Hi09:22
benplautricosauce17: openbox -replace &09:22
stevenhow do i fix that bug in firefox09:22
GammaRaywhat I said: I've even installed freetype from source in /opt manually uncommenting a #define in freetype and running export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/lib before running any apps(IE dillo).09:22
zerboxxsteven: "that bug"?09:22
benplautsteven: which one?09:22
steventhe one that doesnt let u download anything and says theres an xml error09:22
GammaRaytkiesel: if you disable AA and use the MS fonts certainly09:22
bob2steven: restart it09:23
zerboxxricosuave17: openbox doesn't install over gnome, it runs with gnome.  You use it (or at least I do) instead of metacity, so ubuntu looks the same, but it gives you a few more features09:23
bob2it's a known bug that it dislikes being upgraded while running09:23
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Computer__Guruthis glade thing looks pretty nice09:23
GammaRayresiak: but ldd dillo does not even list libfreetype[version] .so which is another thing I'm wondering about09:24
steveno wow thanks09:24
bob2Computer__Guru: so, yo udesign the whole gui with that, and then write code however you like09:24
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jasoncohenif anyone is having problems with mplayer or mozilla-mplayer where mplayer appears to freeze up, you might find that the reason is due to ALSA. you need to follow this howto - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206309:25
SlipjackDoes anyone know what the hosts file is (in either Windows or Linux?)09:25
Computer__Gurubob2:  i can live with that :D09:25
ricosuave17well it was simple to install09:25
niranSlipjack, /etc/hosts09:26
GammaRaySlipjack: man hosts09:26
niranSlipjack, or do you mean like... what it actually is?09:26
jasoncohenubotu mplayer is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206309:26
SlipjackAh, thanks.09:26
ubotu...but mplayer is already something else...09:26
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Computer__Gurubob2:  according to the docs, it only does ada, c, and c++09:26
jasoncohenubotu mplayer is broken is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206309:26
ubotu...but mplayer is already something else...09:26
Computer__Guruah09:26
jasoncohenubotu "mplayer is broken" is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206309:26
ubotuokay, jasoncohen09:26
Computer__Gurui have it generate the xml for pygtk09:26
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bob2Computer__Guru: it can only generate code for those languages09:26
Slipjackniran: No I know what it is. My question was going to lead to WHERE it was. You answer me. Thanks09:26
bob2Computer__Guru: right09:26
bob2Computer__Guru: generating gui code is nasty anyway, even for C ;)09:26
Computer__Guruya know what would work better...09:26
jasoncohenanyone know why mozilla-mplayer switches desktops when going fullscreen or when closing out the window09:27
GammaRaySlipjack: you said *what* (-;09:27
Computer__Gurudo you happen to have a tutorial site?09:27
ricosuave17and its also funny09:27
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GammaRaySlipjack: and in windows it's in /windows/system32, I think09:27
Computer__Guruand is there anything that does this for kde/qt??09:27
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bob2Computer__Guru: www.pygtk.org09:28
Computer__Guruokay, tyvm, bob209:28
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SlipjackGammaRay: Right, the reason I ask is because I have a Windows app that manages the hosts file. Was thinking of porting to Linux since I'm getting back into it.09:28
tkieselSlipjack: in the Windows\system32\drivers directory perhaps.09:29
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GammaRayI refuse to type those horrible backslashs09:29
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SlipjackWindowsXP: windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts09:30
niranSlipjack, unnecessary. the network configuration applet manages the hosts file09:30
GammaRayso.... backwords09:30
niranin gnome09:30
tkieselGammaRay: lol.  \\\!  Beware!09:30
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IIIEars!alsa09:30
ubotuI haven't a clue, IIIEars09:30
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IIIEars!esd09:30
ubotufrom memory, esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.09:30
niranSlipjack, er... not applet. it's in the system menu09:30
mebarani am getting an invalid card number09:31
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Slipjackniran: Understood. My program extends the capabilities of the Hosts file. Adds addresses to it from Firefox bookmarks, allows for blocked hosts, etc.09:31
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jinohi all09:31
niranSlipjack, oh, i see. carry on then09:31
tkieselHi jino. :)09:31
jinomy xservr doesnt start automaticaly09:32
Slipjackniran: Okay! :)09:32
jinohow do i configure09:32
niranSlipjack, i don't see why you'd want to add addresses from firefox bookmarks though... what advantage would that give you?09:32
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Slipjackniran: Skipping remote DNS lookups.09:32
jinoSeaveas, how do i set my xserver to start by itson09:33
GammaRayjino: installing gdm will probably do it09:33
Slipjackniran: A lot of the time while I'm waiting for a site to load it's looking up the IP at peak hours.09:33
jinowats gdm09:33
mebaranI am getting an invalid card number when Alsa starts up09:33
salilhas anyone ever used phone manager...??09:33
jinoand where can i do it09:33
mebaranit is a Via Envy 24PT09:33
GammaRayjino: login screen.09:33
tkieselniran: Maybe things like typing in short mnemonics for oft-accessed hosts. (Putting it in the hosts file lets you do this anywhere, not just in one app).09:33
mebaranwhat can I do09:33
GammaRayjino: sudo apt-get install gdm09:33
Slipjacktkiesel: Yes, another good use for it.09:34
IIIEarsubotu alsa is also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206309:34
ubotuokay, IIIEars09:35
tkieselI administrate the webserver at work. I can login to it with 'ssh web' rather than ssh some.ip.number.here  Heehee.09:35
salilhas anyone used phone manager..??09:35
Slipjackniran: If you want to see what the benefits of my Windows version does I can give you the address. Sadly it's on geocities right now but might move to sourceforge soon.09:35
SlipjackAh, yeah. I use the hosts file for all kinds of shortcuts like that. Alongside of ad blocking.09:36
salilhelp me.. somebody09:37
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GammaRaysalil: fallen and can't get up?09:38
Slipjacksalil: Sorry, never used it.09:38
mebaranalsa is passing an invalid card number to amixer09:38
mebaranhow do I find out the number of my card09:38
salilGammaRay: what..??09:38
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GammaRaysomeone get the paddle... salil has tipped again09:38
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ricosuave17can i polz get taht tutorial page again09:38
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salilGammaRay: what're you talking about?09:38
SlipjackHmm...09:39
Razor-Xhmmmm09:39
mebaranRazor-X, do you have any ideas how to fix my sound09:39
mebaranthis is confusing me09:39
ricosuave17nvm god bless opera09:39
mebaranI have all the correct drivers I thought09:39
Razor-Xin ZSH, if I say if [[$TERM = 'dumb'] ] ; then; print yes; fi09:39
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GammaRaysalil: it's up to interpretation09:39
Razor-Xwhy do I get the error zsh: bad pattern: [[dumb ?09:39
mebaranI have all the modules09:39
salilGammaRay: you're talking nonsense09:39
mebaranthe correct ones are loaded09:39
GammaRaysalil: and that's one09:40
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salilGammaRay: i just need some help. with a little something09:40
mebaranbut alsa does not set it up09:40
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OctaneI went ahead and built three packages on my own (using apt-build) yet apt-get keeps whining about me needing to upgrade it, how do i add these packages to an ignore list?09:40
mebaranany ideas, or anyone successfully running a VIA Envy 24PT09:40
mebaranthe Ubuntu device managers picks it up09:40
Slipjacksalil: He's just messing with you. He basically means he's never used it either.09:40
GammaRaysalil: so that means you are upright and stable, right?09:40
salilSlipjack: then its alright09:40
tkieselmebaran: I wish I could help. I haven't had any problems with Ubuntu detecting my card.09:41
Razor-Xmebaran: what's the sound problem?09:41
dineshhi09:41
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mebaranRazor-X, no /dev/dsp09:41
tkieselmebaran: Now.. are you getting sound out of ESD?09:41
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mebaranI dont have /dev/dsp09:41
mebaranthat is the problem09:41
dinesham trying to install real player on hoary...09:41
mebaranthe modules load09:41
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mebaranbut udev isnt making the correct device09:41
dineshno luck so far...09:41
dineshcan someone pls help09:41
mebaranI think I will reinstall09:41
cute_bettongso um is breezy ready for use?09:41
mebaranFedora Core worked ....09:41
cute_bettongyet09:42
GammaRaymebaran: if you make it manually does it work?09:42
SlipjackAnyone have a list of commands for IRC? I seem to have forgotten them all. Such as /nick09:42
mebaranGammaRay, I've never made a sound device09:42
mebarannormally alsa does all the work09:42
cute_bettongbrb09:42
GoshawkSlipjack, do /help09:42
SlipjackI'll be a son of a.... thanks09:42
tkieselcute_bettong: Unless you're really really needing to be on the cutting edge, and are willing to put up with bugs and problems that need fixing, I'd say wait a lil bit on Breezy.09:42
cute_bettongkk thanx09:43
mebaranI'm going to dll the real ubuntu09:43
mebaranKubuntu isnt as well organized09:43
mebaranyet ....09:43
GammaRaymebaran: see Documentation/devices.txt in the linux source09:43
GammaRaymebaran: and man mknod09:43
cute_bettong<---= ChurcH_of_FoamY ^_^09:43
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mebaranGammaRay, what is the major and minor for onboard sound?09:44
SlipjackAh that's right.09:44
mebaranI now how to make a device09:44
mebaranmaybe I shoudl go to the BSD09:45
ricosuave17does any one how i could have openbox but not have .openbox in my config files?09:45
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SlipjackI feel bad. I haven't used IRC since 1997. I haven't used Linux for over a year since yesterday (a lot of good that Linux+ certification did me).09:45
IIIEarsWB thor.09:45
nJessSlipjack, welcome back09:46
nJess:D09:46
ModestCargoHey all.09:46
SlipjacknJess Thanks! Hah. Sorry I sold out to Microsoft. I swear I don't have Windows installed this time.09:46
ModestCargoDoes ubuntu come with the 2.6 kernel?09:46
SlipjackYeah.09:46
ModestCargocooo.09:46
ModestCargocool*09:47
Slipjack2.6.10 I think?09:47
nJessSlipjack, thats not a problem, some times you NEED windows09:47
nJessand there ARE things it is better for09:47
mebarannJess, like when :p09:47
SlipjacknJess: Gaming...09:47
SlipjackAnd that's about it.09:47
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Madpilotgetting viruses09:47
ModestCargookay, ive been a slack user for a while now...09:47
ModestCargowhats the debian system like for updating as opposed to tgz?09:47
nJessMadpilot, that is a myth actually09:47
ModestCargodebian/ubuntu *09:47
GammaRaymebaran:  char 14 3 works here09:48
nJessi have a windows box, on the net, no viruses, ever09:48
nJessModestCargo, .deb packages09:48
nJessthink rpm, but better09:48
ModestCargook..09:48
ModestCargocool..09:48
SlipjackModestCargo: It's incredible so far. Been using it for only a day but man... the package manager is the best there is.09:48
MadpilotnJess: windows virii are mythical? ;)  actually, I went 5+ yrs with no virii myself w/ 98 & XP09:48
ModestCargoi think i might switch hehe but the thing is,09:48
SlipjackI will never type ./config, make, make install -- or so it seems.09:48
ModestCargoah never mind haha09:48
GammaRaymebaran: I think it should be the same for all09:48
nJessMadpilot, the myth is that windows WILL get a virus09:49
mebaranGammaRay, worth a shot09:49
ModestCargosee yall later09:49
SlipjackModestCargo: The install process took me 32 minutes for Ubuntu. Defintely try it.09:49
SlipjackBlah.09:49
SlipjackBack to the subject. I'm more concerned about spyware with Windows.09:49
cute_bettonghas a windows partition for one game and it's got a virus >.<09:49
SlipjackNot so much viruses. AdAware has scanned 150 times since I last installed it and found 12,000 items. Not good.09:50
IIIEarsoff-topic - windows functional with only 2 two services running. - slashdot today09:50
thoreauputic12,000 items ? OMG :(09:51
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SlipjackYeah, 12,000. Well, in fairness I was using IE at the time. When I installed Firefox I barely needed AdAware.09:51
cute_bettongit's m$ what do you want09:51
SlipjackBut still. Spyware was a problem even WITH Firefox.09:52
nJessSlipjack, the most amusing thing, i think, is people hating microsoft because they have alot of money and market share09:52
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nJessjealousy monster :P09:52
IIIEarsthere is really no point in a lot of security software for windows. most is circumvented using buffer overruns.09:52
cute_bettongin my win install i broke the file protection system for the os then removed all the spyware ie,internet explorer,windows messenger, and port 80 connectivity and win media player09:53
thoreauputicSlipjack: the thing that amazes me utterly is that people keep buying MS stuff - it's like a form of mental illness to keep on buying products that manifestly are terrible09:53
SlipjacknJess: That bothers me to an extent. More of what they did to make that money, than that they actually have it.09:53
nJessthoreauputic, i don't really see a problem with windows, i mean, i keep my system protected09:53
IIIEarsIf they are aiming at your system they are going to hit it.09:53
Madpilotalso on the Win front: so much for MS's latest anti-piracy attempt: http://www.boingboing.net/2005/07/28/microsoft_genuine_ad.html09:53
nJessat this time, i only have one computer with windows09:53
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cute_bettongit's just not worth paying for crappy proggraming09:54
GammaRayIIIEars: that's assuming you use windows as a server.09:54
bob2as above, software copyrithg infringement is off-topic09:54
Slipjackthoreauputic: Definitely. I'll admit it, I've never bought an MS product other than my XBOX. All versions of Windows I've ever had were stolen. The recent blocking of software updates from invalid product keys forced my return to Linux.09:54
cute_bettongalthough if ubuntu ever started charging a fee i would pay for it ^_^09:54
thoreauputicnJess: the problem is thet this company's incompetence has infested the net with viruses and malware09:54
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Madpilotthoreauputic: we've been installing BSD/KDE desktops at work, and when I tell co-workers that it acts differently because it's not Windows, they look at me like I've grown a second head...09:54
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Madpilotcomputer = Windows, for most ppl...09:55
cute_bettongthat and they can't make decent apps and os's that don't crash and don't cost a bundle09:55
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enocan I change a setting so that you have to supply root password to shut down?09:55
thoreauputicMadpilot: i know - the ignorance is staggering: and MS keeps it going with "special deals" for schools etc09:55
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bob2eno: probably, but why bother?09:56
Slipjackcute_bettong: Mostly because they don't care. They know people will buy. And they do.09:56
bob2eno: anyone in front of the machine could just hit the power button09:56
cute_bettongi know isen't it sad09:56
enoso my girlfriend wont turn my computer off :P09:56
Madpilotspecial deals for libraries, in the case of my work...09:56
SlipjackVery.09:56
IIIEarsnah - windows is just too popular for it's own good. a single product with 90% of consumers using it.  - the money for hackers virii writers is there.09:56
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GammaRayIIIEars: virii.. no such word :-P09:57
SlipjackIMO, the growth of Linux is at a sharp turning point right now. Pirated copies of Windows can no longer be updated via Windows Update or the KB.09:57
nJesstrue, the reason windows has had so many bugs found in it is the market penetration09:57
IIIEarsGammaRay - you are right too much time spent on the 'net. netspeak09:57
SlipjackAnyone with a pirated copy of Windows, who feels anything like we do about paying for MS products, will turn to an alternative OS.09:58
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shawarmaGammaRay: What would you say instead?09:58
cute_bettonglinux has bugs too but there fixed really really quickly cause of it's open source nature09:58
cute_bettongand to me thats awsome09:58
Slipjackcute_bettong: Long live open source.09:58
MadpilotSlipjack: that's exactly why I'm here on #ubuntu... ;)09:58
GammaRayshawarma: viruses.. the plural of virus09:58
cute_bettongthere are no questions has to whats in the code09:58
thoreauputicnJess: i've heard that put forward often, but it ignores the inherent design and policy flaws that make the situation even worse09:58
kamstrupGammaRay: vira09:58
cute_bettongand opensource rocks09:59
cute_bettong^_^09:59
kamstrupGammaRay: -- would be the correct09:59
IIIEarsslipjack - the recent M$ online validator (java app) was cracked in less than 24 hours.09:59
GammaRaykamstrup: an old girlfriend?09:59
SlipjackMadpilot: Me too. Just installed ubuntu today. Haven't used Linux in over a year. First time since 1998 where I didn't have a dual boot with Windows on my main system.09:59
kamstrupGammaRay: ?09:59
nJessthoreauputic, i know, but if you try, you can keep a windows box secure09:59
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nJessand i do like windows for alot of things09:59
shawarmaGammaRay: The thing is that there is no latin text available anywhere that uses the word vius in plural, so noone really knows how it's conjugated.. It could be vira og viri.. Where the extra 'i' comes from in h4x0r-speak, I don't know.09:59
nJesshardware support09:59
nJessand games09:59
cute_bettongyea you have to try really really hard09:59
cute_bettonglike not connect it to the internet09:59
SlipjackIIIEars: Really? Ah well. I don't know how long it will suffice. If Microsoft will fix anything it'll be that. Besides, it's one more reason to make a switch to an alternate os.10:00
shawarmaGammaRay: It's viruses in English? Hmm.. Didn't know that.10:00
kamstrupshawarma: are you sure about that? My parents in law are doctors and they say vira10:00
cute_bettongcause even if you think you got your windows box secure theres a 15 year old out there that can show you other wize10:00
Madpilotwhen this was an XP box, securing it took a CD full of programs and about six hours. With Ubuntu, we did *nothing*...10:00
enyc_'heh.. ubuntu (sensibly) doesnt open any listening sockets on the network 'by default'...10:00
nJesscute_bettong, i used to be that 15 year old10:00
nJessi know a thing or two about securing windows10:00
cute_bettonglol thats awsome10:00
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enyc_which means a whole class of attacks are 'not applicable' out-of-thebox10:00
shawarmakamstrup: That's the most common way, yes, but in fact, there's no way to know what a native latin speaker would have said it, as there is no written documentation for any plural forms of the word.10:01
SlipjackMadpilot: My only security right now other than what came with Ubuntu is my router's firewall.10:01
GammaRaykamstrup,shawarma: http://dictionary.reference.com/help/faq/language/v/virus.html10:01
SlipjackWhere in Windows I had a full suite of stuff like you.10:01
thoreauputicnJess: of course, but you have to turn somersaults to do it - like knowing about spybot and adaware, and using an antivirus (and understanding to update it) users shouldn't need to do this. Look at OS-X10:01
IIIEarsMadpilot - "Disk Imaging" to an external USB drive. - much less than an hour even for USB 110:01
MadpilotSlipjack: yeah, me too, until I installed a LAMP setup on this machine and started Firestarter up...10:01
kamstrupshawarma: and there are no "native" latin speakers. Latin is artificial.10:01
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MadpilotIIIEars: assuming you've set up everything you're imaging first...10:02
kamstrupshawarma: I know about the Vatican, but hey ;-P10:02
cute_bettongi am a latin speaker10:02
enyc_well its' a long sotry.. security against _what_ in _what_ environment10:02
shawarmakamstrup: Latin was spoken in ancient Rome.10:02
nJessthoreauputic, the point is, it is easy to use, and it CAN be made secure10:02
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shawarmakamstrup: That's why I said "would have said it".10:02
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nJessthats all that really matters10:02
kamstrupshawarma: Yes, but was still a "made up" language10:02
enyc_nb: lots of ubuntu users ahrdly add anything thats not from an ubuntu-provided signed package...10:02
SlipjackIIIEars: And assuming you don't use that drive for something else because, really, how often do you reload everything? Although, we are talking about Windows here. :)10:02
cute_bettongmica mica parva stella quanam systaem bella10:02
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kamstrupshawarma: Perhaps there was only one known virus in ancient rome :D10:03
cute_bettonglatin for twinkle twinkle little star10:03
ilba7rany one know of easy to use front end for latex other than emacs, lyx and kile10:03
enyc_no idea10:03
shawarmakamstrup: What makes you say it was artificial?10:03
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thoreauputicnJess: right, and I can drive an old jalopy safely if I know a lot about car mechanics and engines and brakes - but I shouldn't need that level of knowledge to drive a car10:03
cute_bettongand it not veni vidi vichi it's weni wedi wichi10:03
cute_bettongthe v is a miss pronounciation of the classic phrase10:04
nJessthoreauputic, so? if that car has an 8 track player...and you have 8 track tapes10:04
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thoreauputichahah10:04
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nJessthoreauputic, see what i mean?10:04
kamstrupshawarma: Isn't latin a "constructed" language? Artificial was just the direct translation from the Danish term for such languages...10:05
nJessyou can put that player in a BMW10:05
nJessbut10:05
nJessits easier to drive the pos10:05
cute_bettongi still have a lazer disk player10:05
nJesslike windows, and games10:05
cute_bettongyou guys know what that is right?10:05
SlipjackVaguely.10:05
cute_bettonga cd the size of a record10:05
Madpilotyeah10:05
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cute_bettongan old record like the 72rpm ones >.<10:05
cute_bettongi thought it was gonna be big tech when i bought it10:06
cute_bettongand boy was i wrong >.<10:06
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Madpilothey, they're selling vinyl again at my local record store... ;)10:06
SlipjackHah. My parents knew it wouldn't be.10:06
cute_bettongawsome10:06
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cute_bettongi have like 4 movies for the damn thing10:07
SlipjackThey're selling vinyl at a few stores around here too. Weirdest thing I ever saw.10:07
cute_bettongand it's retarded10:07
IIIEarsSeveas - Have you noticed a room full of content and happy Ubuntu Linux users? - doesn't often happen in #windows -  wide grin10:07
SlipjackI haven't seen vinyls in a store since I was a kid.10:07
nJessSlipjack, clicks and pops are the best10:07
Madpilotnot just old records, either. newish stuff like Radiohead & the Chili Peppers...10:07
nJessand i mean that seriously10:07
cute_bettongyes they are the make things sound more "real"10:07
SlipjacknJess: And static!10:07
cute_bettongholy crap thats awsome new bands on vynal?10:07
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cute_bettongwow10:07
SlipjackYeah, new stuff.10:08
nJessi have some original aerosmith records on vinyl10:08
Madpilotjust rip to the lowest qualilty mp3 you can, and play it over cheap PC speakers, there's all the pop, crackle & static you want!10:08
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nJessMadpilot, not the same dude, not the same at all10:08
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SlipjackI saw Nirvana vinyl. Almost bought it, but the only record players I have access to are at my parents house.10:08
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nJessanalog sound is just....10:08
spanglesontoasthow do I force a package to install using dpkg?10:08
IIIEarsMadpilot - poking knitting needles through the speaker cone and raising the volume is optional. - lol10:09
Madpilothey, an actual on-topic thing - is that allowed?10:09
IIIEarsheh10:09
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ToRTuReD_Xwhat's the command to open cedega?10:09
cute_bettongIIIEars why would you want to poke your speakers with knitting neddles? woulden't that ruin them?10:09
SlipjackThis is all off-topic. It's insanity, just insanity.10:09
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CapSoft}Nooblo folks10:10
Slipjack'lo10:10
Madpilothi10:10
CapSoft}Noobi have a problem... i changed something in /etc/network/interfaces10:10
CapSoft}Nooband no it does not boot anymore10:10
SlipjackChange it back?10:10
CapSoft}Noobit stops at : configuring network interfaces...10:10
CapSoft}Noobhow?10:10
CapSoft}Noobi can't access ubuntu anymore10:10
SlipjackSorry, I was being a smartass... anyone?10:10
thoreauputicSlipjack: well, for discussion of Ubuntu we can set up #ubuntu-ontopic  ;-)10:11
IIIEarsheh10:11
CapSoft}Noobeven the discoverymode stops at that line10:11
Madpilotthoreauputic: :) :)10:11
sleptspanglesontoast, dpkg --help10:11
nJessCapSoft}Noob, just wait10:11
nJessit will eventually boot10:11
Slipjackthoreaputic: That would be the BEST! I'd be here all day every day.10:11
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CapSoft}Noobi waited for 15 minutes... nJess10:11
CapSoft}Noobi think i made an eternal loop10:11
Madpilotthere really is an "ubuntu-offtopic" chan, y'know10:11
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CapSoft}Noobi added 2 lines in that file10:11
nJesshummmm10:11
SlipjackYeah... but there should be a middle ground.10:11
nJessboot the live cd10:12
CapSoft}Noobone was : up mii-tool --force=10baseT-FD10:12
nJessand un-do what you did10:12
sleptCapSoft}Noob, you can abort it with 'ctrl  + c'10:12
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CapSoft}Nooband then up ifup --force eth010:12
S_Ghi can someone help me?10:12
S_G in what package the modconf command is in10:12
CapSoft}Noobcan i abort something in the boot sequence??10:12
spanglesontoastsudo dpkg -i overwrite glibc_2.3.5-9_i386.deb doesn't work10:12
CapSoft}Noobwith simpel cltr + c ?10:12
thoreauputicSlipjack: we need a #ubuntu-rant :D10:12
MadpilotCapSoft}Noob: hit ESC to get into GRUB10:12
CapSoft}Noobbut grub is good10:12
S_Gbla bla bla/pppoeconf bash  : modconf : command not found in line 40110:12
Madpilotright when the comp is loading10:13
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S_Gsomeone can help me?10:13
Madpilotthere's a safe-boot whatever in GRUB10:13
SlipjackThere should be #ubuntu-wayofftopic, #ubuntu-offtopic, #ubuntu-sortaontopic, and #ubuntu. And I like the #ubuntu-rant idea.10:13
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CapSoft}Noobok10:13
CapSoft}NoobMadpilot a recovery mode10:13
CapSoft}Noob've been there10:13
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CapSoft}Noobtried that10:13
S_Gi need to know what package i need to install for modconf10:13
CapSoft}Noobstops at the same line10:13
sleptS_G, in debian, you have to compile it yourself10:13
S_G?10:13
Madpilotyeah, recovery mode. sorry...10:13
S_Gslept : how do i do can you help me plz10:14
S_G?10:14
CapSoft}Noobbut some1 said i can abort it while booting?10:14
kamstrupSlipjack: What about #ubuntu-/dev/null10:14
CapSoft}Noobby pressing ctrl+ c ?10:14
Slipjackkamstrup: That would be where the stoners hang out, no doubt.10:14
S_Gslept?10:14
thoreauputicSlipjack: automatic re-direct for all mirc users to #ubuntu-troll  (joking)10:14
SlipjackHeh.10:14
S_Gim noob at linux so what command i need to run to compile it?10:15
S_Gslept^10:15
S_G?10:15
CapSoft}NoobS_G ./configure10:15
CapSoft}Noobmake10:15
CapSoft}Noobmake install10:15
CapSoft}Noobi guess...10:15
S_G./configure --> it doesnt work10:15
GammaRayit's a safe bet to read the INSTALL file10:15
S_Gcommand not found ^10:15
Slipjackthoreauputic: automatic re-dreict for all mirc users to #ubuntu-non-hertero instead.10:15
Slipjackhetero, rather.10:16
sleptS_G, I think you can apt-get install -d or sth like that I did it once , or you can use dpkg-buildpackage I'm not sure whichone I used10:16
IIIEars./configure && make && make install (holding breath is optional for a one line command.)10:16
CapSoft}Noobbut guys is it true that i can abort something from booting by pressing ctrl+c ?10:16
nJessSlipjack, i take offense to that10:16
spanglesontoasthow do I force something to install10:16
sleptS_G, what do you need modconf for ?10:16
spanglesontoastsudo dpkg -i overwrite glibc_2.3.5-9_i386.deb10:16
spanglesontoastdon't work10:16
S_Gi need it to pppoeconf10:16
CapSoft}Noobspanglesontoast give in the right root password10:16
SlipjacknJess: Sorry if you're gay. Or sorry if you're a mirc user. Not sure how to respond to that.10:16
CapSoft}Noob:P10:16
thoreauputicCapSoft}Noob: some things, like the time sync (ntpdate)10:16
spanglesontoastthere is no root10:17
spanglesontoastdummy10:17
spanglesontoasttheres sudo10:17
CapSoft}Noobthoreauputic and the network configurating?10:17
nJessSlipjack, i am not-hetero, do not dare compare me to an mirc user10:17
nJess>_<10:17
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thoreauputicCapSoft}Noob: I guess so, if you know the right moment10:17
AMCDeathKnightHey guys; my sound doesnt work in firefox10:17
S_Gslept or someone (i need it for pppoeconf )10:17
S_Gslept or someone (i need it for pppoeconf )10:17
AMCDeathKnightif im watching a movie or playing music it is fine10:17
AMCDeathKnightyet it crackles in firefox10:17
SlipjacknJess; Okay, heh. Maybe I should go to #ubuntu-foot-in-mouth10:17
AMCDeathKnighthow can i fix this10:17
nJessSlipjack, sounds good10:18
CapSoft}Noobdoes the live cd provide a command line so i can access my filesystem????10:18
GammaRaynJess: foot fettish?10:18
IIIEarsAMCDeathknight ubotu has some general info on !alsa10:18
nJesshmmm10:18
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nJesshey Slipjack does pansexual count as non-hetero?10:18
AMCDeathKnightwhats alsa?10:18
thoreauputicCapSoft}Noob: of course10:18
SlipjackSex with pans?10:19
CapSoft}NoobAMCDeathKnight sound driver i think10:19
sleptS_G , pppoe does not depend on modconf , why do you think you need modconf ?10:19
SlipjackWhat is that?10:19
CapSoft}Noobthanks thoreauputic i will try10:19
CapSoft}Noobbrb10:19
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CapSoft}Nooband then i use x-chat10:19
CapSoft}Noobinstead of mirc10:19
CapSoft}Noob;)10:19
nJessCapSoft}Noob, they have xchat for windows10:19
Madpilot!conduct10:19
ubotusomebody said conduct was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view10:19
nJesswww.silverex.org10:19
GammaRaySlipjack: try across10:19
GammaRaylike pan-american10:19
S_Gslept : bla/bla/bla/pppoeconf bash  : modconf : command not found in line 40110:20
SlipjackNever heard of pan-anything.10:20
nJessSlipjack, pansexual means you are not bisexual, or homosexual, you simply are attracted to people, gender aside10:20
S_Gso you know in which pakage can i find the modconf command ?10:20
S_Gso you know in which pakage can i find the modconf command ?10:20
nJessSlipjack, its also been described as "f10:20
thoreauputicpan does not mean "across" - more like "all"10:20
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bachlerpan pizza10:20
MadpilotS_G: www.google.com10:20
nJessSlipjack, its also been described as "f**k anything that walks*10:20
bob2S_G: please stop being annoying10:20
bob2S_G: you don't need modconf on ubuntu, and it doesn't work, either10:21
S_Git's not me it's my mirc im sorry10:21
AMCDeathKnightIs there away I can simply play a flash (swf) file without using a broswer?10:21
SlipjacknJess: I thought that was bisexual.10:21
bob2S_G: then use a less broken client10:21
S_Gbob2 so you know what i can do?10:21
SlipjacknJess: Unless of course a hermaphrodite is neither male nor female.10:21
nJessSlipjack, like i said, im not attracted to both genders, im attracted to people, and their gender doesn't matter to me10:21
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GammaRaythoreauputic: across means the whole of something, from one side to another10:21
SlipjacknJess: Still confused. Still sounds like bisexual to me, in which it gender doesn't matter either.10:22
thoreauputicGammaRay: well, #semantics I guess ;)10:22
MadpilotSlipjack: - and everyone else - #ubuntu-offtopic, if you must keep going...10:22
nJessSlipjack, thats basicly the only difference10:22
thoreauputicGammaRay: I see your point :)10:23
SlipjackAll right. I'll drop it.10:23
S_Gbob210:23
S_Gin debian modconf command is used?10:23
sleptS_G , did you look in the manpage  ?10:23
bob2S_G: you don't need modconf10:23
S_Ghmm nope10:23
S_Gi need it to run the pppoeconf10:24
S_Gto configure my Network Card10:24
bob2no10:24
bob2does the NIC work?10:24
S_Gno10:24
S_Gi think10:24
bob2then fix that10:25
ToRTuReD_Xbob10:25
bachlerS_G: my mother could configure the network in ubutnu...10:25
S_Ghow?10:25
ToRTuReD_Xi'm still stuck with installing cedega10:25
bob2ToRTuReD_X: so, you gave transgaming money10:25
bob2ToRTuReD_X: go get support from them10:25
bob2ToRTuReD_X: www.transgaming.com10:26
S_Gi've got a Network card that needed to be detected automatcly10:26
bob2S_G: is it ISA?10:26
S_Gno10:26
S_GRealtek10:26
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bob2go realtek10:26
S_GRTL8139D10:26
cafuegoickyicky10:26
cafuegodoes 8139cp work?10:26
S_GPCI Fast Ethernet10:26
S_Gnope10:26
S_Gyes10:26
S_Gyes10:26
cafuegoor have they made *another* version?10:26
S_Git work10:26
S_Gbut10:26
S_Gthe network don't10:27
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S_Gafter i do it and dhcpcd10:27
thoreauputicS_G: *please* stop using the enter key as punctuation10:27
S_Gsorry10:27
Madpilotthoreauputic: beat me to it...10:27
thoreauputicit's incredibly irritating10:27
cafuegoS_G: dhcpcd is a dhcp *server* not a dhcp client.10:27
cafuegoS_G: try 'dhclient eth0'10:28
ToRTuReD_Xbob2 - cedega cvs - ie winex10:28
bob2ToRTuReD_X: then #cedega10:28
S_Gcafuego : and then what?10:28
ToRTuReD_Xdammit10:28
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ToRTuReD_Xi've asked in there10:28
ToRTuReD_Xno response10:28
ToRTuReD_X:/10:28
^johns^dhcpcd is a client10:28
jowihi all10:28
^johns^dhcpd is a server10:28
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S_Gwhat is dhcpcd ?10:28
IIIEarsdynamic host control protocol10:29
^johns^dhcp client deamon I guess10:29
znhHi folks10:29
IIIEarsassigns clients addresses10:29
jowihello znh10:29
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znhI just reinstalled ubuntu again - because it messed up due I installed kde-devel, everything seems to be OK now, except the sources.list - I'm getting some 'stat' errors while doing a apt-get update, and installing packages (and i'm using the default created sources.list)10:30
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lesshastewhat is the kernel version in hoary?10:30
nJessit depends10:30
nJessi run..uhhh10:30
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lesshasteok... tell me more :)10:30
nJessSysinfo: [AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ (800 MHz)]  | [440 MB]  | [Linux (2.6.10-5-k7)]  | [load: 0.05 (5 min)]  | [0d 1h 38m up] 10:30
nJessthat one10:30
nJessi run 2.6.10-6-k710:30
lesshastenJess, that's me. My 3000+ is arriving today10:30
nJessah10:31
nJesswell10:31
cafuegothrottling makes that seem a tad underwhelming :-)10:31
nJessis it a desktop or a laptop?10:31
lesshasteso how did you choose, where did you get it from?10:31
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lesshastedesktop10:31
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nJessah10:31
lesshastenJess, actually..I am building it from parts10:31
nJessmine is a laptop10:31
nJessso it just came this way10:31
znhdabaR: welcome back, and good morning :)10:31
nJessi see10:31
Razor-Xwow, I have cheap hacks ;)10:31
sleptS_G,  just insert to /etc/network/interfaces :  auto eth0 ,(new line), iface eth0 inet dhcp maybe you have to change eth010:31
nJesslesshaste, from what i have seen in the 64bit ubuntu, it is nice10:31
Razor-Xoh well, I have solidified my use of screen in my laziness in my .zshrc10:31
dabaRok.10:31
lesshastenJess, you mean that when you install hoary 64 that is the default kernel?10:31
nJessbut my wireless won't work in 64bit, so i don't use it10:31
nJessno10:31
nJessim not using hoary 6410:32
lesshasteah10:32
nJessi can't get my networking to run on hoary10:32
znhanyways, I'd like to use KDE on hoary, is there some meta package that install's everything?10:32
nJessno 64bit hardware drivers10:32
itayhi! I am trying to compile cpp file with some libraries, but I get this error: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXxf86vm", what can I do?10:32
lesshastenJess, that doesn't sound good10:32
itaylibxext-dev libxext6 are already installed10:32
Razor-Xznh: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:32
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Razor-Xif i'm not mistaken10:32
znhRazor-X: won't that conflict that i'm using hoary?10:32
lesshastenJess, but in general hoary provides 2.6.10 then?10:32
Razor-Xznh: not at all10:32
znhRazor-X: sweet10:32
thoreauputicRazor-X: you are indeed not mistaken !10:32
Razor-Xit'll add KDE to your list of WMs10:32
thoreauputic;)10:33
Razor-Xthoreauputic: cool10:33
lesshastenJess, are there updated kernels already packaged?10:33
Razor-Xthoreauputic: you want to hear about my cheap .zshrc fix? ;)10:33
nJesslesshaste, pm me10:33
znhoh it's ONLY 344 MB :P10:33
Razor-Xznh: it's a whole 'nother WM10:33
thoreauputicRazor-X: I'm not sure - is it bigger than a bread box?10:33
thoreauputicheheh10:33
znhafter unpacking 999 MB is used - lol, I bet they made that number like that10:33
Razor-Xthoreauputic: ;)10:33
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Razor-Xit's a real cheap fix to see whether i'm in a zsh subshel10:33
znhRazor-X: yea I know, i'm just happy :D10:33
Razor-Xs/subshel/subshell/10:34
itayI got this error while trying to compile: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext10:34
Razor-Xonly that my emacs shell, ansi-term, and terminal-emulator are sub-sub-children10:34
znhanyways - is the default sources.list recommended?10:34
Razor-Xand they all return different $TERM s ;)10:34
parabolizeznh: whole 'nother desktop environment!10:34
lesshastenJess, I am attempting to :)10:34
Razor-Xznh: didja add universe and multiverse?10:34
itaywhat should I install? libxext-dev and libxext6 are installed.10:34
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znhRazor-X: no not yet.. I got kinda mad/scared - after I installed kde-devel everything got messed up..10:35
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GammaRayhmm odd thing to happen10:35
Razor-Xznh: because you didn't have the kde libs? ;)10:36
Razor-Xmultiverse and universe are pretty safe, and you can't do much without them10:36
znhRazor-X: yes, I needed the kde-libs that we're located in the kde-devel package10:36
znh*needed = required10:36
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GammaRaynow if only they didn't have ssl disabled on links2.. took me days to figure out which links to use and how to fix that.10:37
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Razor-Xi've found out something10:37
Razor-Xevery GNU Emacs user should use screen below emacs10:37
meeekaelokay, i am looking for a quick fix way to get 6 channel sound in ubuntu 5.04...i've tried using ALSA to change the "make line in surroun...mic center" settings but that seems to do nothing, other than make my center speaker click when i switch it on and off, thanks10:37
Razor-Xbecause screen is just fscking awesome, even if emacs does it's function10:37
Razor-Xlike the fact that Eterm displays some characters whacky10:37
znhRazor-X: I agree with you10:37
Razor-Xscreen totally fixes that10:37
dabaRRazor-X: whats your wm?10:37
Razor-Xand the fact that screen returns a different $TERM makes it awesome in my hacks ;)10:38
Razor-XdabaR: KDE10:38
GammaRayRazor-X: does emacs allow detaching like screen?10:38
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Razor-XGammaRay: yeah10:38
znhGammaRay: just a question, what's the difference between X-ray and GammaRay :/ ?10:38
Razor-XGNU Screen was based of a lot of functionality of GNU Emacs buffers without the whole emacs environment10:39
GammaRayznh: none actually10:39
GammaRayznh: from what I was reading10:39
znhGammaRay: aha ok, just wondering :P10:39
Razor-Xstill, screen implements some things better than emacs buffers do, and those small things count10:39
GammaRaystill emacs won't allow me to run irssi inside it.. or will it?10:39
SlipjackOkay. Nice talking to everyone off-topic in the on-topic channel. :) I'm out.10:39
znhhmm.. it seems they disabled the ETA in apt-get?10:39
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Razor-XGammaRay: M-x ansi-term10:40
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lesshastewhich kernel is used for the install in hoary?10:40
Razor-Xalthough, I don't even know why you use irssi *shrugs*10:40
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Razor-Xerc is superior, ;)10:40
Razor-XI used to use BitchX, but that's a thing of the past ;)10:40
znhRazor-X: irssi isn't that hard10:40
Razor-XI prefered BitchX over irssi, before erc, of course10:40
znhRazor-X: why do you like BitchX, if I may ask10:41
nJessbut irssi is so much better10:41
nJess:(10:41
Razor-XnJess: everyone says that10:41
Razor-Xmy theory is that it has something to do with what you use first, at least in this one case10:41
Razor-Xalmost everyone who tries irssi first ends up hating BitchX10:41
nJessRazor-X, not really10:41
Razor-Xand vice versa10:41
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nJessi used bitchx first10:41
nJessit was lame10:41
znhit's just that I knew irssi before BitchX :P10:42
nJessno active dev in years is a bad thing10:42
Razor-XnJess: well, you just wrote it off as lame and left10:42
=== thoreauputic wonders if irssi have a marketing department with agents on freenode
nJessso i lkiked irssi10:42
znhthey are both nice bitches though10:42
Razor-Xznh: vice versa here10:42
Razor-XnJess: tell that to gparted users ;)10:42
nJessohhh10:42
Razor-XI tried BitchX, got a feel for it, and then started loving it10:42
znhthoreauputic: why should they10:42
nJessi love this song10:42
Razor-Xafter that, irssi seemed quite foreign10:43
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Razor-Xfunny thing is, they're based on pretty much identical frameworks10:43
thoreauputicznh: erm... it was , like, a joke10:43
Razor-X(ircII)10:43
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nJessno they are not10:43
znhthoreauputic: HAHAHAHAHA10:43
nJessirssi is from scratch10:43
Razor-XnJess: yes they are10:43
nJessits not based on anything10:43
znhthoreauputic: latency's eh..10:43
Razor-XnJess: that's irssi bleating10:43
Razor-Xirssi was based on ircII10:43
nJessthats not true10:43
nJessi've read into it10:43
Razor-XBitchX and irssi are both forks of that10:43
GammaRaythoreauputic: all the happy users turn agents of irssi (the man)10:43
Razor-Xand so have I10:43
thoreauputicGammaRay: ah, the Ubuntu Effect then ;)10:44
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Razor-Xit's based on it, it may be written from scratch, but it was based on ircII10:44
priestin which package is "cryptdisc" in?10:45
Razor-Xalso, in the channels I used to frequent, B-X was more popular10:45
znhanyways, anyone used qvwm sometime? - It's extreamly fast, even faster as fvwm I noticed10:45
Razor-XI thought irssi was pretty nice until I saw #ubuntu10:45
bob2irssi was not based on it10:45
Razor-Xbob2: I thought it was10:45
Razor-Xfunny how no-one says anything on ``BitchX''10:46
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bob2except for "geez that's a bad irc client"10:46
znhRazor-X: I would if I knew it10:46
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znhLag: 1.7410:47
Madpilotoh boy: http://www.mslinux.org/10:47
znhMadpilot: yea, it's so funny10:47
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Madpilot"Microsoft has hired lawyers to attack it's own product line in an attempt to confuse the DOJ."10:48
znhthose user comments on the right are hell funny10:48
znheh the other right, left it's called10:48
Razor-Xs/nice/niche/10:48
bob2"Last updated:  Thursday, April 13, 2000"10:48
MadpilotOK, so it's an old joke...10:49
znhgood jokes are mostly old jokes10:49
virtuelHiya. I have a quick question: I'd like to set up my computer with a non-standard resolution10:49
znhvirtuel: Ok!10:49
znhvirtuel: that can be done by editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:50
Madpilotbut whoever put that page together had the cojones to link it right back to MS - look at the "copyright" down at the bottom... heh10:50
virtuelI tried adding it to xorg.conf, but it still doesn't show up in System/Preferences/Screen Resolution10:50
virtuel(and I have restarted X already)10:50
znhvirtuel: I think that never would, that are just some premade resolutions10:50
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priestin debian there is a package "cryptsetup", does not ubuntu has it too?10:51
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znharchive.ubuntu says Remote Closed Connection..10:51
znhsometimes10:51
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znhpriest: what would it be able to do?10:52
virtuelznh, the resolution has been offered to me by other distros, 1400x105010:52
priestznh: crypt discs :)10:52
znhvirtuel: You should put 1400x1050 at the beginning of your mode list, then it would be chosen as the default res10:53
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linlini seem to have killed grub on my system, how do i reinstall it?10:54
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priestznh: btw, it was there :)10:54
znhpriest: ok,. nice10:54
salilanyone know of a good gnutella client..?10:54
salilquit help10:54
znhsalil: you might want to try mldonkey - I didnt tell you this lol10:54
sleptlinlin, grub-install10:55
GammaRaysalil: gtk-gnutella10:55
virtuelznh, this is in xorg.conf, right? If so, it's already there10:55
salilokay.. znh .. but there can i get it..10:55
linlinbut from where, i cant get into a running system10:55
salilGammaRay: i tried it and didn't like it..10:55
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znhvirtuel: yes but it should be the first mode10:55
znhsalil: mldonkey is awesome to be honest10:55
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overturei like the "DO NOT USE BREEZY YET" warning, lol10:56
GammaRaymldonkey kinda isn't a gnutella client10:56
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znhoverture: yea it's very user-friendly :P10:56
Tomcat_mldonkey has many protocols...10:56
salilznh: where do i get mldonkey... is it in the repositories..?10:56
Tomcat_It can even do BitTorrent... :o10:56
znhGammaRay: It is10:56
virtuelfrom /etc/X11/xorg.conf:10:56
psychonateI prefer bittornado and amule myself10:56
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virtuelModes"1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"10:56
psychonateand irc heh10:56
znhTomcat_: Yea I used that for commercial front-ends, seeding legal torrents :D10:56
Tomcat_:>10:57
overturei was supprised ubuntu didn't detect a piece of hardware of mine out of the box for the first time today10:57
overturedwl-g520 revB10:57
GammaRayznh: really? huh10:57
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znhGammaRay: really what?10:57
b3n_hi10:57
znhb3n_: hi dutchy10:58
b3n_#kubuntu is very quiet10:58
b3n_so I try it here10:58
mebaran151any ideas how to make it automatically work10:58
salilznh: found it.. its in one of the repositories..10:58
znhb3n_: welcome, feel free to ask :)10:58
znhsalil: I wont suggest you that10:58
mebaran151my sndcard, a Via Envy 24PT10:58
virtuelznh, the weird thing is the screen resolution app offers me resolutions not listed in xorg.conf10:58
mebaran151does not get a device on boot, although the modules load10:58
mebaran151alsa declares no such sndcard exists10:58
b3n_it is about the kubuntu dvd for powerpc10:58
salilznh: then what would you suggest..??10:58
GammaRayznh: they only mention gnutella2.. are you sure?10:59
znhsalil: since it's a p2p client, it would be safier to compile it from source10:59
znhGammaRay: I seen it many times in the configs10:59
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salilznh: i don't understand..!!10:59
b3n_I saw quite some requests for it on the ubuntulinuxforums10:59
CapSoftlo folks10:59
CapSofti am back10:59
CapSoftin linux with x-chat!10:59
znhCongrats10:59
b3n_however the bittorrent file is stuck on 72.1%10:59
b3n_it is the kubuntu-5.04-dvd-powerpc.iso file10:59
CapSoftthanks10:59
znhsalil: what do you not understand?11:00
CapSoftsome1 experience with a windows printer shared? and XS to it from ubuntu?11:00
salilznh: how do i get the source..?11:00
b3n_if someone could start uploading it again, I would be happy to host it thereafter at my ubuntu/kubuntu dvd images mirror11:00
CapSoftb3n_, why not grab it from http or ftp?11:00
znhsalil: search in google for svannah mldonkey, then pick the newest version11:00
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b3n_CapSoft: it is the DVD11:01
znhb3n_: 4gb isn't that large to download11:01
b3n_CapSoft: they are usually only available via bittorrent11:01
CapSoftow sorry forgot that ;) ur right b3n_11:01
salilznh: how do i know that its stable..?11:01
b3n_that is why i set up the dvd mirror to serve them via http (nginyang.uvt.nl)11:02
salilznh: i got this location from google -> http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/mldonkey/11:02
kyomangrmmbl r there alot of packages that r available for 386 that is not avail for the 6411:02
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znhsalil: yes that's the right location11:02
salilznh: i don't know which one to choose.. what if the newest ones are not that stable..11:02
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b3n_but the powerpc kubuntu dvd is not being seeded at the moment and hence  a lot of people are stuch11:02
CapSoftcan someone help me with my windows printer, which is shared and i'd like to access through lan?11:02
salilznh: which version are you using ..??11:02
b3n_/s/stuch/stuck11:02
znhsalil: the newest one 2.6.0 is stable11:02
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znhsalil: I'm not using any p2p11:02
salilah..11:03
salilokay11:03
salilznh: how do i compile it.>?11:03
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cute_bettongum how do i mount hdb1 which is an ntfs partition for just a bit to get some files off of it11:03
znhsalil: have you already extracted it?11:03
mebaran151any ideas on my sound problem11:03
mebaran151Via Envy 24PT11:03
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salilyes.11:03
CapSoftmebaran151, try lsof /dev/dsp11:03
salilznh: yes11:03
salilznh: is it the same command.. ./configure....??11:04
znhsalil: do: sudo ./configure && make && make install11:04
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salilznh: then make and make install..??11:04
znhsalil: yes when they ask to download a needed dependicie, typ yes11:04
thoreauputiccute_bettong: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt ; cd /mnt   and so on11:04
salilznh: ooh..right.. thanks..11:04
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virtuelcute_bettong: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs11:05
znhbob2: may I ask you a question?11:05
mebaran151CapSoft, big problem is11:05
mebaran151that /dev/dsp is not getting made by udev11:05
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kyomananyone in here running amd64 ?11:06
mebaran151kyoman, I am11:06
CapSofthmm... k then i have no clue since i am a noob :)11:06
mebaran151trying to get my Via chip to work11:06
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mebaran151/dev/dsp11:06
mebaran151of Via Envy 24PT11:06
CapSoftsome1 experience with a windows machine with a printer shared?11:06
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jowihmm.11:07
znhCapSoft: seems that we dont11:07
jowii have a process i can not kill11:07
kyomanmebaran r there alot of missing packets,or do i miss something,apt-get install libesd-alsa0 tells me the packet r missing ...is working on my i68611:07
CapSoftapperantly :(11:07
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bob2znh: ?11:07
jowiwhat do i use if kill -s 9 does not work?11:07
thoreauputicjowi: try using pstree to see the parent and kill that11:07
nexukill -911:07
znhbob2: when I would help someone installing a p2p client, Iam being illegal?11:07
jowithoreauputic, the parent is my windowmanager11:08
virtuelznh, only if actually installing the p2p client is illegal11:08
thoreauputicjowi: ah - oops :)11:08
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bob2znh: I woudln't think so11:08
jowithoreauputic, ps -A shows the filename <defunct>11:08
mebaran151I dont hink my alises are setup correctly11:08
bob2IANAL etc11:08
virtuelznh, remember that p2p may be used for legitimate purposes as well11:08
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znhvirtuel: that's true11:09
mebaran151bob2, what sould be setup in my /etc/modprobe.d if soudn aliases were set correctly11:09
thoreauputicjowi: if it's defunct, why would you kill it ?11:09
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bob2mebaran151: I wouldn't bother with aliases at all11:09
jowithoreauputic, because if i try to open a new instance of it the app complains that it is already running11:09
ethicsblizzard use bittorrent to distribute patches on world of warcraft...precident of legality on a commercial product..11:09
thoreauputicjowi: right - I just realised that myself - sorry11:10
znhethics: yup, like linux also does - I sponsored that a while ago11:10
jowithoreauputic, is there a command that kills without sending signals and without expecting a reply?11:10
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thoreauputicjowi: sorry I don't understand that11:11
b3n_by the way, onyone here got an wireless pcmcia aironet 350 card running under ubuntu WITH WPA encryption? (WEP and no encryption does work however)11:11
znhx\away: Hi to austria - from the netherlands11:11
kyomanbob2 r all the packages for ix86 available for amd64 to ??11:11
jowithoreauputic, i need a more powerfull kill command :-)11:11
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b3n_au=australia11:11
b3n_;)11:11
bob2kyoman: mostly11:12
psychonateYou scared him away lol11:12
znhb3n_: austria is the english word for austrilan11:12
ToRTuReD_Xlol11:12
bob2kyoman: for free software stuff, almost always11:12
ToRTuReD_Xsorry11:12
ToRTuReD_Xwas me11:12
thoreauputicjowi: pull the power plug out ;)11:12
ToRTuReD_Xi hit a key and thought i closed all windows11:12
mebaran151bob2, so what should I try to do11:12
jowithoreauputic, i did. it is still there11:12
mebaran151I have the modules loaded11:12
ToRTuReD_Xbut it was minimised into the panel11:12
bob2mebaran151: load the module11:12
mebaran151they are loaded ....11:12
jowii will try another reboot to see if i am lucky11:12
kyomanbob hmm i must miss something in my sources.list then ....i cant find alot of them ...for example libesd-alsa011:12
mebaran151all the correct snd moduels ARE loaded11:13
b3n_znh: australian is the english word for austria??11:13
znhRazor-X: woot, almost done installing kde11:13
znhb3n_: nevermind.. i'm already confused now :p11:13
kyomanbob2 hmm i must miss something in my sources.list then ....i cant find alot of them ...for example libesd-alsa011:13
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b3n_:)11:13
thoreauputicb3n_: the australian word for australian is "strine" ;-)11:14
bob2kyoman: apparently not built on amd64 for hoary11:14
kyomanok..11:14
bob2kyoman: packages.ubuntu.com11:14
virtuelHm. Does anyone know of a good graphical sftp client?11:14
bob2virtuel: nautilus11:14
znhbob2: another question, I'd like to create some IRC bot that logs all the quit messages, is it allowed to put such a client like that in here? (it would be silent one)11:14
psychonatesftp?11:14
b3n_afk-back to work11:14
desrtpsychonate; secure file transfer11:14
desrtpsychonate; basically, ftp over ssh11:15
bob2znh: if it's silent, I don't mind11:15
psychonateah, never used that11:15
bob2znh: the channel's already logged, tho11:15
kyomanbob2 ok thx...guess its compile time :-/11:15
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CapSoftguys i installed hpijs but where is the .ppd file?11:15
znhbob2: that doesn't mather to me :P11:15
CapSofthow can i search from / to all *.ppd files there are?11:15
bob2kyoman: why do you want it?11:16
ethicsbob2: i think he want to grep it for "znh sux" etc hehe11:16
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desrtCapSoft; grep  ppd$ /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list11:16
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thoreauputicCapSoft: try " locate *.ppd "11:16
znhethics: might be11:16
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mebaran151I think I will try gentoo again11:17
mebaran151at least there I could blame myself11:17
kyomanbob2...cant get my sound to work proper,and found a troubleshot tip for it that worked on my i68611:17
jowithoreauputic, a reboot solved it. i think that "pulled the plug" caused the prob in the first place. tripped over the laptop powercable so it did not really shut down properly :-)11:17
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mebaran151kyoman, you running a Via Envy11:17
mebaran151because mine doesnt work at all11:17
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desrtmebaran151; gentoo isn't bad.  i wish you luck.11:17
thoreauputicjowi: aha!11:17
bob2kyoman: that won't help your sound work any better11:18
bob2unless alsa oss emulation is broken on your machine11:18
CapSoftthanks thoreauputic11:18
kyomanbob2 i dont have any sound ....11:18
mebaran151desrt, what other 64 bit distros exist11:18
thoreauputicCapSoft: you're welcome11:18
mebaran151that have any user base11:18
desrtmebaran151; 64bit what?11:18
prajHow do down load latex pachake in ubuntu?11:19
kyomanmebaran gigabyte ga-k8vt800pro11:19
mebaran151desrt distibutions11:19
desrtmebaran151; what arch?11:19
mebaran151AMD6411:19
desrtoh . don't know about that11:19
mebaran151I have always wanted to play with a BSD11:19
desrtppc64 is more my thing :)11:19
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mebaran151but BSD is just weird with slices and all11:19
desrtif that's your biggest problem with bsd .....11:20
thoreauputicpraj: did you mean "latex package" ?11:20
jowimebaran151, got a friend that uses FreeBSD on his amd64. he says it works much better than gentoo11:20
kyomanmebaran it is a via chipset11:20
mebaran151jowi, I would think so11:20
jowiand the slices are a good thing11:20
nightswim* works better than gentoo11:20
mebaran151jowi, how so11:20
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nightswimeven minix11:20
desrtnightswim; ..11:20
mebaran151can I have seperate file systems on each slice11:20
mebaran151desrt, a slice is a subpartition11:20
desrtmebaran151; yes11:20
desrtmebaran151; the idea is that bsd only takes one partition total11:21
desrtand all of its separate filesystems go into slices11:21
desrtthat way it doesn't each up your entire partition table (which can only have 4 entries)11:21
jowimebaran151, slices are needed since bsd need to reside on a primary partition11:21
GammaRaythat might have mattered before extended partitions11:22
jowimebaran151, you can only have 4 primary partitions on one single disk11:22
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thoreauputicpraj: there are many latex-related packages - try " apt-cache search latex | less "11:22
mebaran151jowi, I know that11:22
znhWoo, back in graphical action11:22
desrtextended partitions are an awful hack11:22
mebaran151but I always used logical partitions11:22
jowimebaran151, oh ok11:22
desrti never use them11:22
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=== desrt much more comfortable with slices
mebaran151but how many slices can you have11:23
desrt26, i guess?11:23
GammaRay15 w/ freebsd I think11:23
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desrti'd believe 15 :)11:23
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desrtseb128; wb :P11:23
seb128re11:24
desrtseb128; what's the deal with freezes?11:24
desrtlike, what's exempt and not?11:24
mebaran151how is the BSD kernel anyway?11:25
desrtmebaran151; lean11:25
seb128desrt: no solid rules11:25
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desrtseb128; :)11:25
konkiDELL 600m [customized]  NOTEBOOK: anyone can help me make my decision on buying one?specifications/stuffs...11:25
desrtseb128; so it wouldn't be bad if gnome-applets depended on hal 0.5.4 for example?11:25
seb128desrt: if something is judged to bring something we want and stable we go for it11:25
jowikonki, what do you mean customised?11:26
seb128desrt: pitti has uploaded 0.5.3 this morning ... is there any 0.5.4 atm? when is it due? what does it change? what does it bring?11:26
mebaran151desrt, but I hate the UFS11:26
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konkijowi, you know the kind you buy online.. 256/500 MB ram?? what the diff??11:26
desrtseb128; 0.5.4 is due soon according to david.  it's mostly features.. including some new API11:26
koistican someone told a good ftp server for ubuntu with gui11:26
mebaran151and the fact that they are anal about fs's11:26
desrtspecifically i'd want to use it because it introduces a foolproof "percent" field for batteries11:27
jowikonki, 512mb ram is more than 256mb. if the pricedifference is low go for it11:27
pittiseb128: there is no 0.5.4 yet11:27
seb128desrt: "mostly features" is not something which usually is a good candidate for freezy break11:27
pittiseb128: I see the announcements11:27
seb128desrt: good candidates are "mostly bug fixes"11:27
virtuelkonki, I'd say 256 MB ram is a bit on the low side11:28
desrtseb128; in that case i think i'll hold back on requiring it for 2.1211:28
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desrtpitti; thanks for the upload, btw.11:28
PeaceMakrhello11:28
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seb128desrt: you can ask pitti if he has planned to go for 0.5.4, but I guess 0.5.3 is a good deal atm11:28
desrtseb128; i won't play devil's advocate anymore on this one :)11:29
PeaceMakrcan someone help me with ubuntu 5.04 and wireless internet?11:29
desrt0.5.3 is fine for me11:29
pittidesrt: I'll look at the announcement when 0.5.4 comes out and decide then11:29
jowikonki, usually DELL has offers of getting double memory for free. check out their offers11:29
desrtand certainly, right now, i need to go to bed already :P11:29
desrtcheers.11:29
pittidesrt: but I'll rather go with cherrypicking patches now11:29
[teh] ubuntu means "person" lol11:29
konkijowi, yes it does...  512 MB is for free... guess i'll take it...11:30
desrtpitti; 0.5.3 vanilla (more or less) seems to be a good place to stay11:30
seb128'night desrt11:30
desrtnite.11:30
jowikonki, 600m is quite good though. it can be taken appart to the smallest part just like a stationary pc. nothing is glued.11:30
desrtoh.. one more thing11:30
PeaceMakrdoes anyone here know about iburst?11:30
desrtseb128; do you plan on packaging xscreensaver or gnome-screensaver for breezy?11:30
koistihey someone, that ftp server for ubuntu??11:31
pittikoisti: vsftpd is supported11:31
jowikonki, btw - if you talk to a seller - please be adviced NOT to get a maxtor HDD!!!11:31
koistiis it with gui11:31
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seb128desrt: gnome-screensaver seems to be nice, I'll probably send a call to test it today now than gnome-settings-daemon knows about it and we will decide according to that11:31
desrtseb128; k.  keep me updated on that one11:32
andrew_what does libc6 do?11:32
seb128np11:32
konkijowi, well i'm buying it off the site...11:32
desrtseb128; fabbione and i are working on a screensaver :)11:32
seb128desrt: you are for gnome-screensaver I guess ? :)11:32
desrtseb128; ya... as long as it works11:32
seb128k11:32
jowikonki, the american or european?11:32
desrtseb128; if gnome-ss then i'll upload my hack upstream11:32
desrtif xss then fabbione is gonna try to patch it into the ubuntu xss package11:33
CapSoftmy printer works!11:33
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CapSofti love ubuntu forums11:33
desrtthanks.  i really need to leave now :P11:33
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=== psychonate <3 google.
konkijowi, i don't know.. is there a difference??11:33
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andrew_any of you guys tried gentoo?11:34
konkijowi, it comes down to roughly $1280... good price??11:34
konki$1230 that is11:34
seb128desrt: k, later11:35
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KyoManlol i must miss something essential,sound works on the livecd but not on my install11:36
mebaran151I think I will try breezy and see if it works there11:37
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KyoManmebaran u tried with the livecd ??11:37
bob2the usual problem is people misinterprete "doesn't work"11:37
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bob2mebaran151: you know X doesn't work in breezy, right?11:37
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jowikonki, depends of what is included in that price.i think you should be able to get a "$250 off instantly deal" added to that11:38
Dalkuscan anyone give me the url to the kde lite (I think thats the name) webpage? It's a new project that aims for a kde desktop without the bloat11:38
bob2#kde would presumably know11:38
Dalkusalright, thanks.11:39
konkijowi, yes.. already got the $250 off comes doewn to $123011:39
jowikonki, then you have a high-end 600m. good price11:39
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konkijowi, i also got $50 off the pkt DJ.. 5GB... wanna get the 20GB... maybe later...11:40
jowikonki, and you probably get the 3 year warranty ?11:40
QMarioWhy does Ubuntu have a pause each time you are using Mozilla Firefox?11:40
konkijowi, well, i am shipping it off the US to some isolated islands in the Pacific so warranty doesn't really matter...11:41
QMarioThe speed of my DSL connection on Ubuntu is almost equivalent to the speed of the my old d11:41
jowikonki, oh. too bad.11:41
QMarioThe speed of my DSL connection on Ubuntu is almost equivalent to the speed of the my old dial-up connection in Windows. :(11:42
jowikonki, sometimes the touchpad can get worn out and glitch - same thing with the frontpanel. the warranty is nice to have.11:42
jowikonki, it does not happen very often but i did get the occasional customer (when i worked for dell tech support) that did11:43
konkijowi, surely, but i have a HP laptop this will be the 1st dell... my HP is still running smoothly since 2000...11:43
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konkitouchpad/screen ok11:44
mebaran151bob2, still?11:44
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mebaran151haven't they TRIED to fix that yet11:44
znhtest one two three11:44
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oatiswhat is the easiest way to install koffice 1.4 with kubuntu>11:44
znhtest four five six11:44
konkijowi, that good to hear... dell are good comps right??11:44
elshahey guys, any idea what the default path is to kernel source or headers?11:45
znhkonki: good is defined by the user11:45
Seveasindeed11:45
bob2elsha: there isn't one11:45
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bob2elsha: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:45
jowikonki, you should really give a call to the dell support. see if the warranty can be moved to the pacific (i had american customers that temp moved to europe for job and they were able to move the warranty with them)11:45
konkii will never purchase a notebook ever... its just too hard to upgrade....11:45
QMarioWhy does Ubuntu have a pause each time you are using Mozilla Firefox?11:45
QMarioThe speed of my DSL connection on Ubuntu is almost equivalent to the speed of the my old dial-up connection in Windows. :(11:45
znhSeveas: I like that they are so silent, I haven't experienced any bad with Dell computers yet11:46
SeveasQMario: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.11:46
elshabob2, awesome :) thanks11:46
jowikonki, yes they are good. nothing is locked on them. everything can be replaced without hassle with a screwdriver.11:46
konkijowi, well i don't really think it would matter since the person who will be owning the PC will travel ocasionally to the US11:46
bob2elsha: what are you trying to compile?11:46
Seveasznh, at the Ubiversity where I work they use only dell workstations. A lot of the tft's already have multiple dead pixels to name one thing11:46
SeveasUniversity*11:47
xinelhey guys i can't get my sound working any suggestions?11:47
bob2tell doesn't make their own tfts, tho11:47
bob2er, Dell11:47
znhSeveas: haha lol11:47
koistixinel, any sound or ex only with xmms11:47
Seveasxinel, does the file /dev/dsp exist?11:47
jowibob2, dell doesn't make anything themselves. they only build and brand them11:47
xinelusing alsa, sounds not muted11:47
Seveasxinel, ahh, you killed esd?11:47
elshabob2, i'm trying to get drivers for webcam working, but the linux shell script i had couldnt find the headers, cause i hadn't installed them yet11:47
oatiscan someone please explain to me how to install koffice 1.4 from ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/koffice-1.4.1/11:47
znhSeveas: dead pixels are made by force - or not?11:48
konkijowi, i think so because i work for this comp org called "freegeek" we recycle computers/parts, and resell em.. dell PC's are the easiest to take apart...11:48
xinelkilled esd, no /dev/dsp11:48
Seveasxinel, if /dev/dsp does not exist, your sound card is not recognized and the drivers for it aren't loaded11:48
xinelinteresting11:49
jowikonki, they are FUN to take appart :-)11:49
Seveasxinel, put the output of lspci on the pastebin11:49
Seveasjowi, agreed11:49
xinelpastebin?11:49
Seveaswith a hammer...11:49
Seveasxinel, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:49
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konkijowi, truly.. a pain in the butt too... scratched my hand/fingers alot...11:50
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jowithey have about a ton of tiny-tiny screws though. somehow i always have one or two in my hand after everything is put together again... how does that happen?11:50
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konkibut hey @ least i'm learning alot... plus those peeps there are pro Linux.. thats why i joined em..11:50
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konkimostly work but i learn alot and its free...11:51
xinelokies its on pastebin11:51
jowikonki, that sounds good11:51
konkiFREEGEEK.org11:51
Seveasaha audigy...11:51
xinelhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/81611:51
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xinelaudigy 2 zs11:51
Seveaslots of people have problems with audigy cards11:52
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xineli just changed hdd's and hading working on my old hoary install11:52
konkii know that opensource is the future... but if it ain't @ least i know how to do things others can't11:52
jowikonki, "adopt a computer"? haha11:53
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Seveasxinel, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2121111:53
konkijowi, yep.. well i ain't on the adoption prog. i'm on the build prog.11:54
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konkijowi, build 5 get 1 free.... installed with Linux freekbox... lol!11:54
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punkrockmcduckgood morning12:01
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jowikonki, sounds like a fun project. start one in europe and i'll come to help12:01
jowimorning punkrockmcduck12:01
punkrockmcduckhow's it going?12:01
xinelSeveas: thanx for the link, don't suppose u know how to turn things on and off in alsamixer?12:01
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konkijowi, you wouldn't even think about how many comp. a day we get... our warehouse is so filled its a fire hazard...12:01
konkijowi, where in europe are you @ ??12:01
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Seveasxinel, m is the mute tuggle, up and down arrows change volume, left and right arrows change control12:01
jowikonki, i have moved around alot. atm i live in Paris, France.12:01
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xinelSeveas, thanx 'm' was what i was looking for :)12:01
jowikonki, swedish origin. worked in ireland, denmark and now france12:01
konkithats nice... wanna visit europe someday...12:01
xinelnow to follow forum link12:01
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konkijowi, college over there, is it expensive?? i read that it was cheap... alot of grads. but no jobs??12:01
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xinelSeveas, that fixed it! thanx alot :)12:01
ubuntwhohi i was wondering if someone could help me with installing wine12:01
punkrockmcducki'm looking at some cdrw/dvd-r combo drives on newegg.com because i need to replace a broken cdrw in one of my computers. are there any compatability issues or brands that i should avoid?12:01
marcinhi12:01
marcincould someone tell me how can I check when someone was on this channel?12:01
konkixinel, apt-get wine install or apt-get install wine12:01
marcinbot or something.. seen...12:01
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jowikonki, right. very hard to find a job these days. especially in sweden. many move abroad. thanks to the EU it is not such a big hassle though and alot of companies offer relocation-programs. and you can transfer your pension from one country to the next12:01
konkisweet12:01
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tommi^Hi. I installed the free nvidia drivers. Then I uninstalled those and installed the propierty ones. Now, on every boot I get randomly either non accelarated Xorg or an error while starting x/gdm. Stopping gdm, rmmod nvidia and reinstalling nvidia drivers help. The nvidia installer log complains that the previous installation has been tampered with. Log shows: "Unable to access previously installed file   '/usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1.0.7667' (N12:02
tommi^o such file or directory).  Unable to access previously installed symlink   '/usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1' (No such file or directory)." What causes the changes to the nvidia driver installation? Thanks12:02
jowikonki, and we do not have fees for college and universities in sweden.12:02
ubuntwhokonki,  im reading at the wine site that i should uninstall any previous versions of wine?12:02
tommi^As a side note, I have uninstalled all nvidia driver I know with apt-get. apt-get remove nvidia*12:03
konkijowi, you mean its free??12:03
IIIEarsis there a nuclear blast command for apt like "purge"?12:03
konkiubuntwho, do you have previous versions installed?? i don't really know but i installed wine just fine...12:04
xinelkonki, why would i want wine?12:04
jowikonki, yes. if you have enough grades to get in. but as a student you need to take a loan for rent, food and internetconnection of course :-)12:04
lirazWhy do thunderbird fonts wish to remain antialias even though I have disabled them?12:04
tommi^konki, same here in Finland.12:04
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konkixinel, i think you would like to run some programs that run on windows12:04
jowikonki, as tommi^ said. the nordic countries have very similar systems12:04
bob2IIIEars: sure, remove --purge12:04
xinelthanx fo the thought but i have a windows boxen to do that12:04
konkitommi^, what about foriegners?? free too?12:04
xinelcoz i can't get fusionHDTV lite to work on ubuntu12:05
jowicoffee time12:05
IIIEarstommi^ - if you say yes i am grabbing the next flight there. - lol12:05
tommi^konki, currently yes, there are some talks if foreigners should have fees.12:05
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xinelso who gets free uni?12:06
tommi^IIIEars, welcome then.12:06
konkixinel, well i ain't that hi-tech wait a few more years... i'm a newbie too12:06
xinelhehe12:06
xinelyah i think i'll wait till its a bit easier to do12:06
ubuntwhokonki,  how do i tell if i have a previous version installed?12:06
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xinelah sweden12:06
cafuegosveeeden!12:07
cafuego(bork, bork)12:07
IIIEarsAmazed by the number of games ported to linux - loki has been very very busy. - lol12:07
konkimaybe i should move over there.. seen all the wild parties on 'wild on'12:07
tommi^As a matter of fact I'm entering to university this fall and I have only few fees: total amount of about 100 euros.12:07
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konkiubuntwho, try to locate it...12:07
xineli wanna go to America if road trip and teen movies have taught me anything America is full of hot willing chicks :P12:07
IIIEarslol -12:08
tommi^IIIEars, so are you coming then?12:08
konkiubuntwho, try to locate it... 'locate wine'12:08
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Jen20Where can I download all the security updates for hoary to then rip to a CD? I'd like to install them before connecting to the net with a new installation. http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz is the closest I've come.12:08
IIIEarstommi^ - i need a favor.. - erm. could you talk to my wife?12:08
konkixinel, i am thinking the same thing about europe...12:08
ubuntwhokonki,  k ty one sec12:09
konkii think you got it on the opposite direction...12:09
xinelkoisti, yah i just bought Eurotrip12:09
xinelw00t12:09
tommi^IIIEars, sure, why not. You don't mind if I persuade her with few pictures of local men (no, not meaning me)? :)12:10
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bob2amen12:10
bob2aside from the prive12:10
konkixinel, the one with absinithe & kissing bro/sis??12:10
xinelhehe yah12:10
IIIEarsMy job is awful > 0_o12:10
konkiabsinithe, a drink i can't seem to find in the bars here12:10
xinelthat reminds me i better set dvd to dma12:10
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IIIEarscool -12:11
xinelkonki, its easy to buy in Australia12:11
cafuegoJust too bad it tastes like shit12:11
xinelnah i like it has a nice liccorish taste12:11
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bob2that's why you put burning sugar in it and shot it12:12
ubuntwhokonki,  when i did a locate it came up with wine.png and wine.svg is that it?12:12
jowithe absinthe is not the same as 200 years ago though12:12
konkisweet... its illegal to sell in the us... am waiting to get some loot and buy some online and ship it over12:12
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lirazI'm trying to do a ./bootstrap and I get:  aclocal: configure.in: 39: macro `AM_PATH_ALSA' not found in library12:12
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cafuegobob2: nah, that's why you ask greg to do something nice with blueberries and vodka ;-)12:12
bob2haha12:12
xinelwhats the diff between 200 years ogo and today absynth?12:12
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bob2the hallucinogenic properties12:13
cafuego(greg being my local cocktail bar dude)12:13
refuze2loozewhat script would be a good place to run xmodmap on startup?12:13
jowixinel, they needed to remove some "poison" as bob2 said12:13
xinelhaha12:13
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xinelbugger12:13
cafuegoIf you need to hallucinate, just eat two entire nugmegs.12:13
konkiubuntwho, well i don't know, thats as much as i can take you... i havn't learn how to uninstall a prog. on Linux. as i said 'newbie'.. thats as far i could take you12:13
cafuegonutmegs too12:13
xinelapt-get remove proggy12:14
ubuntwhokonki,  k its cool12:15
ubuntwhokonki,  im a newb too :] 12:15
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lirazDOes anyone know why I would get such an error when trying to ./bootstrap btsco alsa ?12:15
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ubuntwhoxinel, does the latest version of ubuntu come with wine?12:18
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python_konki: Whats up mate ill help you out.......without sarcasm too12:18
python_private message me and ill see if i can get u sorted12:19
konkisarcasm???12:19
python_;-)12:19
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=== keikoz s'lu all
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konkipython_, well... thanks but i think ubuntwho needs a more help... i've already been cured12:20
ubuntwho:]  <--- newb12:21
darijrsomeone has installed pearpc?12:21
bob2best to just ask your question12:21
xinelubuntuwho: nope it doesn't12:21
konkiczechs absynthe $65 a btl buy 2 get 2 free... good deal... http://www.czechabsinth.com/12:22
darijrjust to play with it... I would like to install OS X12:22
xinelhahaha can't get dma to work on hdc12:22
lirazhas anyone here gotten a bluetooth headset working in ubuntu?12:22
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ubuntwhoawsome brb12:22
python_konki:dont seem to be working konki12:22
IIIEarsxine1 - that is very unusual.12:22
python_wht do u need12:22
tha_gamemasterdarijr, the last i checked pearpc is still quite slow... how fast is your processor?12:23
darijrI installed pearpc from apt... but which steps do I should follow... to run OS X under pearpc12:23
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konkipython_, what do you mean??12:23
darijris PIV 3.ooGhz12:23
paulproteusdarijr: I think this is covered on the pearpc web page.12:23
tha_gamemasterdarijr, i agree with paulproteus12:23
darijrok.. I see what it says12:23
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konkipython_, i dont know whats up with this pvt thingie... how do i set it up??12:24
beezlyuhoh - libcairo seems screwed in breezy :(12:24
beezlynew new apps for me :(12:24
python_konki- Dont seem to be working right12:25
python_just tell me here in main room12:25
xinelhrmms can enable it easy on hdd12:25
konkipython_, i think so... you gonna send me some absynthe to USA??12:25
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konkipython_,  yeah... wheres the new window??12:27
konkior tab12:27
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python_Look at the tab at bottom left do u see your name12:28
konkiyes12:28
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python_click tht konki12:28
konkiok.. it says enter new nickname12:28
refuze2loozewhat script would be a good place to run xmodmap on startup?12:28
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python_forget it for now,12:29
python_just explain your proble here12:29
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konkipython_, there wasn't any we was just chillin here "solving problems"... j/k... but i just needed some help on buying a new PC.. but its done already12:30
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konkinotebook xtuallyh12:31
python_thts good konki12:31
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konkiyep, for someone back home... back in the islands....12:32
konkixtually my mom...12:32
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xinelseems to be that for a cdrom that is the master ide setting dma to on seems to be a problem12:32
mpmcHoney, I'm home!12:32
mpmclol12:32
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konkibut thanks anyways... need a break...12:33
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zerboxxlooks like konki's break started while changing nicks12:35
QMarioThank you Seveas. It's faster now. :)12:36
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administratorhi12:40
konki-is-on-breathanks python_ , later gotta rest... work tommorow @ FREEGEEK.org ... recycle recycle recycle...12:40
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jantan21hi room12:40
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ubuntwhopython_,  got a sec?12:42
python_yep12:42
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ubuntwhoi'm trying to install wine12:43
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konki-is-on-breahow come there are file transfers on my chat??12:43
python_Ubuntuwho, its a complex install12:43
python_what win app do u wanna run out of curiosity12:44
konki-is-on-breafile trasfers still active12:44
jowii can sucessfully log in and browse a samba share using smbclient but i can not mount a samba share to a mountpoint. I get wrong fs type12:44
topylikonki-is-on-brea: not expecting any?12:44
konki-is-on-breatopyli, yes12:44
jowianyone successfully mounted a smb share?12:44
konki-is-on-breajowi, i don't know??12:44
ubuntwhopython_,  steam12:44
topylikonki-is-on-brea: yes you are expecting, or yes you are not? :)12:44
jowikonki-is-on-brea, thank you! ;-)12:45
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python_what is steam12:45
konki-is-on-breai am not expecting any... i didn't request any12:45
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ubuntwhoits for counter-strike12:45
topylikonki-is-on-brea: just refuse them. as to how, depends on your client12:45
python_is it a game?12:45
ubuntwhoyes12:45
opossumjackpaulproteus: hi...12:45
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python_ok12:46
python_have u considered a dual boot12:46
jowii need help with smb share mounting12:46
ubuntwhoi have a dual boot12:47
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konki-is-on-breai have X-chat it says when i try to close "Some file transfer still active, quit chat?"12:47
python_why not just install the game on windows12:47
opossumjackis the shipit-Free CD REALLY FREE?!?!?!?12:47
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jipi just bought a new crt-monitor. now when i start X, i see two horizontal lines on the screen. (no the monitor is not broken). any idea what software might cause this?12:48
topylikonki-is-on-brea: try "yes" :)12:48
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jipand i'm running xfce412:48
python_Also ubuntuwho: You may consider that WINE does not run every windows app12:48
ubuntwhoits installed on windows but i would like to see how linux handles it12:49
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python_ubuntuwho: Be honest when running through WINE or CrossOver Wndows apps dont run as well as they do in there own native environment12:50
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python_If the game is made for linux and can run natively then fine12:50
python_Do you know there are some great open source games12:51
ubuntwhoare there any good first person shooters?12:52
python_yes12:52
paulproteusopossumjack: Yes, it's really free.12:52
Poromiespython_: I've noticed that some problems are running more stable on wine then they are on windows, and bit faster too :)12:52
Poromies*problems = programs12:52
virtueljip, does your monitor have a trinitron CRT?12:52
python_really12:52
python_im surprised at that12:52
opossumjackpulproteus: thanks a lot... I'll order it right now!!!!12:52
python_I personally avoid WINE i dont see the point, i try to encourage open source alternatives12:53
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Poromieswell not that surprising when you think of it.. wine is just windows re-coded as an OSS project ;)12:53
python_When i once ran flash through wine it just wasnt the same12:53
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jipvirtuel: flat12:54
python_In the end i just thought id look for alternatives and came across SVG and LASZLO12:54
Poromiespython_: wine is not windows, nor is it windows emulator12:54
python_Both Open Source12:54
Poromiesit's wine12:54
python_I know WINE is not an emulator12:54
python_I know its an open source win3s api12:54
python_win32 rather12:55
virtueljip, most flat crt's these days have a trinitron tube in some form12:55
ubuntwhoare there any good sites on how to install WINE im getting lost since im a newb at their site12:55
python_i think we should avoid proprietry software12:55
virtueljip, in which case, having two very faint horizontal lines on the screen is normal12:55
python_ubuntuwho, TRY crossover linux, you have to buy it though but its cheap12:55
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Poromiesubuntwho: theres wine how-to at ubuntuforums, or there used to be atleast...12:56
python_Crossover is based on WINE but is easy to setup12:56
ubuntwhoPoromies,  ok ill give it a look12:57
jipvirtuel: oh :) thanks for the info. i'm gonna check this out12:57
paulproteusPoromies: I think so, too.12:57
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virtueljip, the best thing you can do is to boot into something alternative, and see if you see it12:57
virtuelthe lines aren't usually visible on a black screen12:57
jipif i use higher resolution i can see em better12:58
virtuelthe lines are about 1/3 from the top & 1/3 from the bottom?12:59
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ploumHello01:00
ploumanyone knows which OOo will be in Breezy ?01:01
bob2both of them are there now01:01
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ploumbob2: I know but I wonder wich one will be the default one01:02
topyliprobably depends on the stability of OOo01:02
xinelbbl reboot01:02
topylidoh what a truism01:03
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abhaykswhat is the difference between Breezy & hoary backports ?01:09
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deFryskbreezy backports ?01:09
deFryskwhere ?01:09
bob2hoary backports are by random non-ubuntu people01:09
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bob2breezy is developed a bunch of ubuntu people and will be the next release01:09
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topyliabhayks: i doubt there are backports for breezy :)01:10
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abhaykstopyli: I rephrase my question-- diff between (breezy) and (hoary backports) ?01:10
pregoEh! what happened to debian-marillat repositories?01:11
bob2they were never intended for use with ubuntu01:11
bob2they were coincidentally compatible, somtimes01:11
abhayks(hoary ackports) are officially supported too01:11
topyliabhayks: oh. :) hoary backports are backported from breezy sources. there are also extras that are not in breezy01:11
pregobob2, where do I get w32codecs from now?01:11
bob2in the sense they're on an ubuntu.com now, as of 2 days ago01:12
bob2prego: get it and install it with dpkg01:12
bob2or get it from mplayerhq.hu01:12
pregobob2, OK, thanks01:12
abhaykstopyli: so all breezy packages are backported to hoary ?01:12
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bob2no01:13
topyliabhayks: not at all01:13
bob2thank god01:13
topyliheh01:13
marlijshello, does anyone know howto get canon i250 to work in hoary?01:13
marlijsit's a pirnter01:13
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topyliabhayks: only those that someone has felt strongly enough to request01:14
topyliabhayks: and that someone else has agreed to do01:14
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abhayks topyli:  bob2: thanks01:15
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topyliabhayks: generally, you shouldn't need backports. there are some useful packages in backports-extras though01:15
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fabioHello all01:15
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abhaykstopyli: could u suggest a few01:16
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pregono amd64 packages in backports :-((01:16
topyliabhayks: not me. :) i do have stuff like tomboy and beagle i want to play with01:17
fabioguys, have got probs with fonts, when I am reading my chm files in xCHM and CHMViewer I manage to see little square boxes with number instead of special characters...01:17
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sirfredGood morning.01:18
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topyligood afternoon sirfred :)01:18
sirfredI've just upgraded my Hoary to Breezy. I have some problems that perhaps there's a known solution for them.01:18
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sirfredThe first one is that my altgr key is working as alt.01:19
topylisirfred: you're supposed to have (and fix) problems with breezy01:19
sirfredtopyli: I know.01:19
topylithe folks at #ubuntu-devel should be more in-the-know01:19
sirfredAnother thing is that I'm not able to change the X server dpi.01:19
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sirfredAlso, my pcmcia memory cards are not automounting.01:20
sirfredAny idea about these three problems?01:21
benbahi everybody, please help, how to play mp3 in ubuntu ?01:21
abhayksin Breezy <CTRL>+<ALT>+<F1> does not work.01:21
paulproteusbenba: See the wiki page on RestrictedFormats01:21
bob2note breezy is known to not work01:21
paulproteusabhayks: Interesting.  I wonder if that's a feature.01:21
deFrysk!mp301:21
ubotump3 is probably read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support01:21
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benbathaks01:21
benbathanks :)01:22
sirfredabhayks: Yes, perhaps the problems are related (ctrl+alt+Fx and altgr)01:22
virtuelben_d, http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs should also provide some clues01:22
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paulproteus!ubuntuguide01:22
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.01:22
pregoDoes evolution spam filter work standalone or you need spamassasin installed?01:22
bob2prego: it uses SA, yes01:22
abhaykspaulproteus: It is STILL not a feature01:22
paulproteusabhayks: What do you mean, "it is STILL not a feature"?01:23
pregobob2, so I have to install the spamassassin package, don't I?01:23
sirfredI've also lost the white cursor theme01:23
deFrysksirfred, sudoapt-get gcursor01:23
paulproteusabhayks: Maybe in the drive to make everything user-friendly Ubuntu will be dropping Ctrl-Alt-Fn for future releases by default.01:23
bob2prego: if you want spam filtering, I'd say so01:23
abhaykswell we tend to pass defect as features01:23
bob2prego: it does Recommend it for a reason01:23
sirfreddeFrysk: I'm going to try. Thanks.01:23
paulproteusprego: aptitude --with-recommends install <packagename>01:24
bob2abhayks: if you think you found a bug, file it if no one else has01:24
paulproteusThat's what I do to avoid considerations like what you're thinking through.01:24
bob2but breezy's X is expected to be broken01:24
bob2just don't upgrade if you want a working system01:24
sirfredbob2: I always forget that.01:24
abhayksbob2: There is already a bug for this01:24
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bob2abhayks: cool, then wait until next week and it'll hopefully be fixed01:25
topylithe dreaded Crack Development Phase :)01:25
abhayksbob2: I have installed breezy and its working well. Except for a few small problems01:25
bob2awesome01:25
bob2but if you're going to whine on irc, please just stay on hoary01:25
topylii use hoary because i insist on whining01:26
bob2the general you, not anyone in particular01:26
topylii just wish i had something to whine about01:26
paulproteustopyli: Heh.01:26
topyliperhaps i'll go whine about this here XP box on some other channel :)01:27
RaptoidSoyle saglam wallpaper adresi soylesenize bana linux ile ilgili ?01:27
bob2this is pretty clearly an english-speaking channel01:27
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spanglesontoastcan you encrypt an archive?01:28
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bob2a tar archive?01:28
jantan21hi all01:28
abhayksbob2: I said my breezy is working well. I am not whinning merely telling people my experience01:28
bob2of course, gpg --symmetric01:28
bob2abhayks: as I said,  "general you, not anyone in particular"01:28
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spanglesontoastwhat's that do01:29
spanglesontoastdo I need to have a copy of the key then?01:29
bob2...01:29
bimberiman gpg01:29
bob2it encrypts a file with a password01:29
bimberioops01:29
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spanglesontoastah so I should make the file first01:29
bob2of course01:29
bob2and then read the gpg man page01:29
topylidoesn't file-roller encrypt zips on the fly?01:30
spanglesontoastit's just this file manager or archive manager etc01:30
spanglesontoasthas a password on it01:30
=== bimberi meant to type that in a terminal ;)
spanglesontoastso does that mean I could have two passwords?01:30
bob2did you mean "zip file" instead of "archive"?01:30
pregobob2, Evo should complain if no spamassasin installed when marking a message as trash...01:30
jantan21hi bob can u help me ?01:30
bob2prego: then file a wishlist bug saying that01:30
bob2jantan21: you don't seem to have asked a question01:31
pregobob2, good idea01:31
bob2jantan21: and please stop /msg'ing me01:31
spanglesontoastwell I'm using .tar.gz01:31
bob2then find out how it was encrypted01:31
jantan21E: Package xmms has no installation candidate <<< why?01:31
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spanglesontoastoh does that get encrypted?01:32
bob2jantan21: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoryHowto01:32
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bob2spanglesontoast: so, we're going in circles01:32
bob2spanglesontoast: just ask your real question01:32
raphaMorning01:32
spanglesontoastwell I'm wondering does the file roller01:33
spanglesontoastprovide password protection for .tar.gz01:33
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jantan21jantan21: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoryHowto <<<next ?01:34
bob2what?01:34
bob2go read it01:34
spanglesontoastok01:34
spanglesontoastand what does a file disappear mean01:34
spanglesontoastwhen I right click on it01:34
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ex-parrotI don't know whre to ask this... anyone know why Rhymthbox doesn't work when using XFCE under Ubuntu?01:42
ex-parrotit complains about not being able to open a resource for writing01:42
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znh... Is there a ubuntu package for the java runtimes?01:46
Ocid!java01:46
ubotu[java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.01:46
znhthank you01:47
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znheh.. I just want jre01:48
znhnot the whole java thingy :/01:48
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znhnevermind got it already01:49
luzbelitohi to all. i had a big big trouble: i edited /etc/sudoers for make a test, and now i can't use root terminal and can't use sudo. any help please? i am driving crazy.01:50
afv-13struggling with novell client, alien -t'd all the rpm and now i'm stuck with the init.d files01:50
znhdamn compiling Kopete takes long01:50
afv-13anyone else try this?01:50
luzbelito.01:51
znh,01:52
Tomcat_luzbelito: I think you need to use a LiveCD like Knoppix or the Ubuntu Live, then mount your disk, and edit sudoers from there.01:52
Tomcat_luzbelito: No idea if there's an easier way.01:52
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virtuelTomcat_, there is a utility to edit sudoers. It's referenced in /etc/sudoers01:52
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luzbelitoTomcat_, i am downloading now knoppix .iso file. can it be burned with gnome baker hu ?01:53
Tomcat_virtuel: I see... visudo. But you need to run that as root, and he can't do that.01:53
Tomcat_luzbelito: Yeah, will work.01:53
virtuelsudo visudo01:53
luzbelitoyeah, i try visudo after the first change, and it cant be used01:53
Tomcat_virtuel: He locked himself out of the sudoers.01:53
virtuelTomcat_, ah. then you're right01:54
luzbelitolenin@cccp:/$ sudo visudo01:54
luzbelito>>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 24 <<<01:54
luzbelitosudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 2401:54
luzbelitothere is the error01:54
luzbelitoi suppose there is the problem, but i followed manual instructions... i don't know why01:54
spamalopewhats on line 201:56
spamalope401:56
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luzbelitoi cant see sudoers file now.01:57
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spamalopecant cat it?01:57
luzbelitocan i delete sudoers line 24 ?01:57
luzbelitoi dont think so with no root permission01:57
luzbelitocat: sudoers: Permission denied01:57
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elshahey, i've been spending most of the afternoon trying to get webcam working... i have the drivers working so that it's working in xawtv, but it comes up with "failed to open the device" when i test it on gnomemeeting... any ideas?01:58
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luzbelitoany other option for my problem to edit sudoers ???02:01
virtuelluzbelito, what Tomcat_ initially said: boot from CD02:02
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liran_im on gaim, and im just seeing that i can't send files... i mean, i dont have that option.02:03
liran_am i missing some plugin?02:03
roo_liran, what network?02:03
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roo_msn/yahoo/aim?02:03
liran_icq02:03
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roo_liran, gaim only supports file transfer for certain networks.02:03
roo_liran, try lircq02:04
liran_i see, ok02:04
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roo_liran, licq even (sudo apt-get install licq)02:04
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equexanyone have a tip for me? suddenly my dvdrom doesnt work properly, it sees all DVDs as blank. regular cdroms work though. the DVD rom is confirmed to work(wich i installed Ubuntu with) Konqueror says "Malformed URL" when i try to open it (/cdrom0)02:06
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equexthis apparently happened after i broke a line my fstab, but it is now fixed (and that line was about another device anyway)02:07
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Smofhello! I'm a proper newbie to ubuntu, just learning to use lftp. Can anyone tell me if there is a command to remove all the files in a directory so I don't have to type them all out? Also how do I delete a directory itself? Thanks02:08
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lirazIs there any GUI I can use to edit the services in linux?02:09
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bimberiluzbelito: boot in recovery mode and visudo from there02:09
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squareyesevening all, am very much in need of help with printer setup, please02:10
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hunnhi :) testing new installed ubuntu ...02:11
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hunn... done02:11
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ToRTuReD_Xhey guys02:13
tahorgthere is still no date for xorg to be fixed in breezy ?02:13
ToRTuReD_Xwhat's the command to create a new user?02:13
tahorgToRTuReD_X: adduser02:13
bimberiToRTuReD_X: adduser02:14
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jantan21Line Number 1285, Column 48 <<<why ?02:15
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jantan21 <property class="bios" subclass="3" name="5"/720_kb_floppy_services_are_supported_(int_13h)" type="string">true</property>02:16
jantan21 << help me02:16
ToRTuReD_Xthanks guys02:16
ToRTuReD_Xhad to format and reinstall02:16
ToRTuReD_Xbut couldn't reinstall ubuntu02:17
tahorgdoh02:17
tahorgwhy ?02:17
ToRTuReD_Xhad to move to Vector Linux02:17
ToRTuReD_Xerm02:17
ToRTuReD_Xone of the boot thingies died02:17
ToRTuReD_Xgump?02:17
ToRTuReD_Xgrump?02:17
tahorggrub02:17
ToRTuReD_Xglump?02:17
ToRTuReD_Xyeh that's it02:17
ToRTuReD_Xit wouldn't install02:17
tahorgreally easy to install02:17
ToRTuReD_Xno it had fatal errors02:17
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jantan21how can u so me install ubuntu true02:18
ToRTuReD_Xjantan?02:19
jantan21from web02:19
jantan21how can u show me install ubuntu true02:19
jantan21from web02:19
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jantan21help me02:20
ToRTuReD_Xhttp://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/install/02:20
nnachtjantan: what is your problem?02:20
jantan21i'am install xmms02:20
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nnachtjantan: and_02:20
jantan21Package xmms has no installation candidate <<<warning02:21
jantan21tell me if i am wrong with my install ?02:22
nnachtjantan21: I supose you can try other repositories, and apt-get update02:22
ToRTuReD_Xsomeone wanna help me mount my hard drive so that i can access my music02:23
nnachtor u just download the source and compile by yourself02:23
ToRTuReD_X;/02:23
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nnachtToRTuRED: just mount /dev/hd?? /the/path/youwantmount02:23
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jantan21Reading package lists... Done <<<ok02:24
jantan21next02:25
ToRTuReD_Xthanks nnacht02:25
ToRTuReD_Xanyway02:25
ToRTuReD_Xrebooting into normal user02:25
Smofcan anyone tell me the command for deleting a directory?02:26
nnachtsmof: rmdir02:26
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jantan21smof : what next ?02:26
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nnachtsmof: or if the directory is not empty, just try 'rm -fr #02:27
jantan21nnacht : what next ?02:27
liran_what easy WYSIWYG html editor can i get for ubuntu?02:27
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nnachtliran_: nvu02:27
IIIEarsmozilla NVU02:27
Smofnnacht, what does that do? I mean does the 'fr' stand for something? I find it so much easier to remember this stuff if I know what it means02:27
IIIEarsopen office does a passable job for a simple page02:27
liran_ok ill look it up on synaptic02:27
nnachtsmof: ok, let me try to explain.02:28
nnachtsmof: if the directory is empty, just type 'rmdir thedir'02:28
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liran_uhm, no match for mozilla NVU or just NVU02:29
nnachtsmof: else you try to type 'rm -fr thedir', where f means force and r means rekursiv02:29
Smofok02:29
Smofcool, thanks02:29
jantan21nnacht ::: help me02:29
nnachtthat means everything in the directory will be deleted02:29
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liran_nnacht, its actually rikursyv :P02:29
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nnachtjantan: what is the problem?02:30
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jantan21i can't install xmms ?02:30
nightswimyes you can02:30
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nnachtjantan: have you tried another repository?02:31
jantan21taech me02:31
nnachtok02:31
IIIEarsToRTuReD_X, - Check out this script for mounting all avilable drives. (Thanks Seveas. ) http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/51802:32
liran_what software can i use to create an avi/mpg video of screenshots?02:32
Smofok, now I seem to have a problem with my directory names. I created them in Windows and they have spaces, so it's not understanding my command.02:32
nnachtu can try deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted02:32
nnachtsmof: use '\' and press the space02:33
sorush21guys how do I make sure that port 110 is open and what is a good front end program for firewall02:33
Smofnnacht, I put it in quotes and that seemed to work. Guessing is fun!02:33
nnachtsmof: I do agree with u02:33
lirazCan someone help me figure out while thunderbird is insisting on only using antialiasing?02:33
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lirazIt does not match with the truetype fonts I'm using, and I have set AA off for them02:34
ToRTuReD_Xdammit02:34
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johnnybezakhey guys, do you know of any traffic shaping QoS programs that aren't just using the kernel tools? I have read through some how-to's and I'm sure I'm up to it I'm just hoping there is a simpler way02:34
ToRTuReD_Xhow do i install tar.gz files without an extractor?02:34
nightswimwith an extractor02:34
nnachttar zxvf ...02:35
ToRTuReD_X-_-02:35
johnnybezakyou can't haha they need to be extracted02:35
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ilba7rwhat is the command to list the partitions and their size02:36
Smoffinal problem. One of the names has a word in square brackets, it's called 'Randoms and [spunge] ', and it's getting confused by the [spunge]  bit thinking it's a command02:36
bimberiilba7r: sudo fdisk -l02:36
nnachtsmof, just use \[02:36
Dartsanidf02:37
ilba7rthanx bimberi02:37
ToRTuReD_Xok02:37
ToRTuReD_Xextracted02:37
bimberiyw :)02:37
ToRTuReD_Xall i have is xpi files02:37
ToRTuReD_Xwhat now?02:37
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superCocoh02:38
SmofI don't follow you. It doesn't seem to do anything with the \02:38
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squareyesevening all, my printer/s epson LQ500, and HP laserjet 4 plus won't work with Ubuntu (or any other Linux distro) on parallel cable, /dev/lp0 seems to be there ls /dev/lp0 shows it02:39
bimberiToRTuReD_X: are you installing addins for mozilla ?02:39
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squareyesany ideas Please?02:39
ToRTuReD_Xbimberi - nope installing firefox on debian02:39
ToRTuReD_X;/02:39
ToRTuReD_Xerm02:39
ToRTuReD_Xsorry02:39
ToRTuReD_Xslackware02:39
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ToRTuReD_Xwell a distro based on it02:40
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IIIEarsubotu winmac_fstab is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/  Ubotu: Psst! Seveas you made me look good again. - Thanks. :)02:40
ubotuokay, IIIEars02:40
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bimberiToRTuReD_X: no readme extracted?02:41
IIIEarsubotu ubotu forget winmac fstab02:41
ubotuIIIEars: Are you smoking crack?02:41
IIIEarsubotu forget winmac fstab02:41
ubotui didn't have anything called 'winmac fstab', IIIEars02:41
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IIIEarsubotu forget winmac_fstab02:41
ubotui forgot winmac_fstab, IIIEars02:41
mpmc!info msn02:42
Jen20Where can I download all the security updates for hoary to then rip to a CD? I'd like to install them before connecting to the net with a new installation. http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz doesn't have URIs.02:42
IIIEarsubotu winmac is winmac_fstab http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/  Ubotu: Psst! Seveas you made me look good again. - Thanks. :)02:42
ubotuokay, IIIEars02:42
mpmc!search msn02:42
ubotumpmc: Wish i knew02:42
mpmcsearch msn02:42
ToRTuReD_Xbimberi,02:42
mpmc!ubotu help02:42
ToRTuReD_Xnone02:43
sexcopter8000mthis might sound like a silly question, but how can i abort a download in wget?02:43
ToRTuReD_Xjust apt.xpi and browser.xpi02:43
ToRTuReD_Xclose the terminal?02:43
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sexcopter8000mno, i think wget carries on in the background02:43
thesametany other breezy user has firefox crashes today?02:43
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IIIEarsmpmc - !question_topic_item or  ubotu question_topic_item02:43
Smofthesamet, one02:44
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Dartsanisex....try system monitor?02:44
Smofand one yesterday. they're the only times it's crashed for me02:44
IIIEarshm - irc swallows underlines02:44
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ToRTuReD_Xhmm02:44
ToRTuReD_Xhow do you update ubuntu02:44
bimberiToRTuReD_X: I've only ever used xpi files by opening them in a mozilla app (firefox, thunderbird ...)02:44
ToRTuReD_Xtrying to remember the download command02:45
ToRTuReD_Xlol02:45
IIIEarstorsmo or gkrellem system monitors are worth a peak.02:45
sexcopter8000mDartsani, yep, found it there02:45
chrissturmhow can i configure how long urls are kept in the history in epiphany?02:45
IIIEarsToRTuReD_X, - there is a tool under admin tools02:45
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IIIEarsapt-get update02:46
CapSoftwhere can i get the wmv3 codec?02:46
sorush21guys how do you mount a .iso image with K3b or Gnome Baker02:46
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liran_so uhm, any ideas how do i create video screenshots in ubuntu?02:47
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thesametsmof, i read in the forums to downgrade libcairo back to 0.5.2. checking now02:47
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Dr_Fatehttps://www.optionsxpress.com/#02:48
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Dr_FateTHe tabs across the top of that page02:48
Dr_Fate2 questions02:49
Dr_Fatedoes clikc on them result in anything for you in FF?02:49
yccheokany scilab user here?02:49
Dr_Fateand are you able to see the last tab  "help"?02:49
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jantan21This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:50
jantan21is only available from another source <<< why can't02:50
jantan21Package xmms has no installation candidate <<<warning02:51
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topylijantan21: xmms is in universe, which you don't seem to have enabled02:51
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jantan21i can't install xmms02:53
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elshaoh yes, rub it in my face bimberi :P02:54
jantan21i was try anything but i can't02:54
chrissturmdo i need modules-restricted to get my logitech usb cam working?02:54
Aloysiushelp...anyone...i just used partition magic to resize my windows partition to give ubuntu more space and its fried my partition table i think....now when i boot pc its getting to where grub menu should pop up and dying02:54
Ocidubotu: tell jantan21 about repos02:54
bimberielsha: lol - not the intention i assure you :)02:54
topylijantan21: sure you can02:54
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Smofnow, what is the command for creating a new directory?02:55
Aloysiusis there a linux version of the windows FDISK -MBR????02:55
Aloysiusmkdir02:55
topyliAloysius: partition tables are hard to fix, especially if you don't have it backed up02:55
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topyliAloysius: grub-install02:56
Aloysiustopyli: would it be possible to install ubuntu again over the top and retain all my settings?02:56
Aloysiustopyli where should i grub-install? from the live cd or at boot on the install cd?02:57
Smofthankyou02:57
topyliAloysius: if your /home is on a separate partition, and if the installer can read the partition table02:57
topyliAloysius: live cd, boot floppy, just boot however you can02:57
IIIEarsliran - this looks like a the app you want for DVD totem-xine   here is where it is dicussed. http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/wolves/2005-May/013841.html02:57
topyliAloysius: and throw away partition magic :)02:58
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Aloysiusim booted in the live cd at moment...so if i drop into a term and run grub-install?02:58
topyliAloysius: you need to chroot to your root partition02:58
abhayksaloysius: try02:58
bimberiAloysius: this might help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:58
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Aloysiustopyli: yeh i agree now...have had years of use with it problem free...till today :(02:58
topyliphone ->02:59
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raven3x7hello02:59
IIIEarsAloysius - gparted, qtparted or even dd03:00
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BiSK-8hello03:00
raven3x7has anyone succeded in using the nvidia 6111 drivers wth hoary?03:00
BiSK-8can any1 tell me if i order an iPod from america will it work on the italian usb lines?03:00
mysticnessWow, what a big channel. Biggest I've ever seen. :P03:00
Dr_Fatecan someone check that link for me please?03:00
topyliAloysius: but chrooting is going to be hard since you can't read the partition table03:00
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bimberimysticness: /join #debian03:01
mysticnessCould I get a census of opinions? I'm a newbie to Linux, and while some people recommended Slackware for stability, they said Ubuntu would be the better route for a newbie like myself.03:01
mysticnessDo you agree?03:01
cosemekI know it's not the right place, but can anyone help me out with connecting to IRC hrough telnet?03:01
topylimysticness: obviously, many on this channel would agree :)03:02
bimberimysticness: i would - but this is an interesting place to ask03:02
topylimysticness: not all of them newbies either03:02
elshacosemek, got irssi?03:02
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elshairssi <servername>03:02
cosemekelsha what's that?03:02
IIIEarsmysticness - Sure, Ubuntu is the best. - If you need a little help make a direct connect and i?l walk you through the install! :)03:02
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elshatype it in a telnet window and see if it works03:02
BiSK-8can any1 tell me if there is itunes for ubuntu?03:03
cosemeknope03:03
elshaBiSK-8, yes03:03
BiSK-8and can i get it with apt-get?03:03
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mysticnessDoes Ubuntu allow newbies to gain more knowledge as they use it? Thanks for the offer, Ears, but I don't have an installation CD yet. I'm ordering one from the site as soon as I figure out what the US's country code is...03:03
elshacosemek: try irc <server>03:03
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topylimysticness: it hides nothing03:04
mysticnessAwesome.03:04
elshaBiSK-8, i've only just installed ubuntu myself, but i have seen ipod features in music player03:04
Aloysiusfingers crossed.... fdisk -l /dev/hda shows all my partitions are there...03:04
IIIEarsmysticness. - it is pretty insulated from what runs under the hood.03:04
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raven3x7anyone know why the 6111 nvidia drivers wont install?03:04
topyliIIIEars: it is?03:04
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bimberiBiSK-8: there's also "gtkpod"03:05
mysticnessOne of my primary reasons for switching to Linux is to learn more about computers in general, so as long as I can get down and dirty with the OS when I decide I'm good enough, I'm fine.03:05
IIIEarstopyli - a new user can use nothing but a gui for nearly everything.03:05
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topyliIIIEars: of course. and another user may use a bunch of terminals :)03:06
IIIEarstrue ;)03:06
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mysticnessI've worked a little bit in DOS and other terminal programs like a MySQL server. Sure, it's not much experience, but every little bit counts to a newbie.03:07
BiSK-8ok03:07
topyliIIIEars: personally i treat ubuntu as a debian box03:07
BiSK-8thanks03:07
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BiSK-8and bimberi or elsha, are the usb plugs universal? will it work here in italy if i order it from the us?03:08
ToRTuReD_Xman03:08
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topylimysticness: you'll love the unix shells after dos. these shells you can actually do some stuff with :)03:08
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IIIEarsmysticness - great support. (500 users in this room)03:08
ToRTuReD_Xi am so close to downloading debian and installing it03:08
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raven3x7ToRTuReD_X, me too03:09
mysticnessI'm not 100% familiar with what a shell is, but yeah; DOS is a pain. I expected it to be able to do a lot of things, since it's text based. But it's not all that useful, from my experiences.03:09
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IIIEarsToRTuReD_X, - are you looking for a list of things ubotu knows?03:10
mysticnessGood for formatting, though. ;] 03:10
cosemekmysticness, lol03:10
godzirra_Anyone have experience getting bootsplash to work nicely with ubuntu?03:10
topylimysticness: basically, any interface is a shell (even the crappy dos command line)03:10
raven3x7is there a cheatcode to start ubuntu without udev?03:11
godzirra_Seveas: someone told me you did, but I dont think yuo're ever actually here? :)03:11
raven3x7like -noudev or smomething?03:11
IIIEarstrouble is the syntax for windows terminals is ?pdated"seemingly whenever M$ has a whim.03:11
topylimysticness: this is a multiuser multi-tasking OS. dos is a single-user non-multitaskin non-os :)03:11
bimberiBiSK-8: i'd be very suprised if it didn't work03:11
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BiSK-8bimberi, for electrical equiptment u need an adaptor03:12
BiSK-8here03:12
mysticnessOh, so even an emulator could be considered a shell.03:12
topylimysticness: its user interface could03:12
raven3x7!udev03:12
uboturaven3x7: I don't know03:12
bimberiBiSK-8: yes indeed, but you were asking about usb03:12
mysticnessYeah, that's what I mean.03:12
raven3x7hmm03:12
mysticnessIt's 8 AM and I haven't had coffee yet03:12
mysticnessx_x03:12
lirazHas anyone succesfully setup windows fonts? I have made my own specialised fonts.conf which works fine. BUT: firefox just refuses to use windows fonts on some sites(like ubuntuforums.org) and thunderbird decides that it wants AA turned on(without my permission and against fonts.conf!) what the heck is going on?03:13
cosemekit's 4 pm and i've slept for 10-12 hours.03:13
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BiSK-8bimberi, yes, is it the same?03:13
godzirra_cosemek: I hate you. :p03:13
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mysticnessThumbs up to you, cosemek.03:13
topylimysticness: like the linux kernel might be an interesting piece of code, but it's not much fun without a user interface :)03:13
godzirra_Its 9am and I slept like 3.03:13
lirazcosemek, ya cosachta03:13
godzirra_:)03:13
cosemekgodzirra_ :] 03:13
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mysticnessNothing beats 12 hours of good sleep.03:13
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bimberiit's 2313 and I'm about to go to sleep :)03:13
topylior 12 cups of coffee03:13
godzirra_I'm off to work.03:14
mysticnessHm, can the GUI be hacked/edited to suit my tastes? Themes, if you will? I'm a pixel artist and eventually plan on creating my own themes/skins for whatever OS I move to.03:14
IIIEarstopyli - everything larger than tmsrtbt floppy is - bloated. j/k03:14
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bimberiBiSK-8: I can't give you an iron-clad guarantee but I'd be very very suprised if usb wasn't a universal standard03:15
IIIEars!themes03:15
ubotuhmm... themes is http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/03:15
topylimysticness: if you can't find what you like from the 100 or so window managers and desktop environments, write your own :)03:15
mysticnessHmm, good point.03:15
IIIEars!gdm03:15
ubotuI don't know, IIIEars03:15
topyliand yes, most of them are themeable and configurable03:15
IIIEarsubotu amnesiac is you03:15
ubotuIIIEars: okay03:15
LasseLI just installed openbox. I am really amazed how fast it runs compared to metacity03:15
nophixmysticness: and it's open source, nuff said ;)03:16
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topylihack away!03:16
mysticnessI've come to love open source.03:16
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mysticnessNow if only I had the skills to make use of its open-sourceness.03:17
mysticness:P03:17
thenukenow if I only could make love to open source03:17
nophixthe skills are open source too03:17
mysticnessI'm learning PHP, so I guess it's a start.03:17
topylithenuke: it is03:17
AndaresIf only love were open source.03:17
mysticness1000 years ago, it was03:17
cosemekAndares O_o03:17
mysticnessPromiscuity and all.03:17
IFRFLYRMorning (or afternoon) all ; I'm trying to install Net::FTP and having troubl,e probably cause I'm completely ignorant of Perl but need it. I did perl -e shell MCPAN and install Net::FTP and got Not enough arguments on install. Can anyone  help?03:17
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AndaresSelecting previously deselected package 'love'.03:18
Arnaldis there a known build prob with libavformat ATM? - avformat.h:214: error: nested redefinition of 'enum AVDiscard'03:18
cosemekBRB03:18
AndaresERROR: Unresolved Dependencies. (libhuman1, sex2.3.1-ubuntu1)03:18
Arnaldsorry wrong tab ;)03:18
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nophixwho needs love, i have porn-get03:19
=== mysticness just finished requesting shipment of Ubuntu CDs.
cosemekcongrats03:19
mysticness:)03:19
cosemekthough I just DL them03:19
mysticnessI have a 20KB/s connection.03:19
mysticnessSo that's laughable.03:19
cosemekI have 200KB connection :D03:19
mysticnessI don't have a CD burner, either.03:19
cosemekoh03:20
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cosemekI got DVD-Burner :)03:20
mysticnessThis comp is 6 years old. I can't wait to get enough money to build a new one. This one's OEM, too.03:20
cosemekMine is 4.5 years old..03:20
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topyliAndares: liar :)03:20
cosemekthe only thing ive upgraded is the dvd burner03:20
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Andares>;o03:21
priestis it some kind of joke that 'open command line' is gone in the right-click-meny in new gnome? (in breeze)03:21
IIIEarsubotu xwindows is Linux freedom Style, User power, or RAM stingy speed Ubuntu linux is what you want it to be. http://xwinman.org/03:21
ubotuokay, IIIEars03:21
mysticnessI'd upgrade this comp, but it's a Dell, and pretty much everything needs upgrading. It'd be cheaper(and nicer) to just buy all the stuff for a new one.03:21
topylimysticness: the shipping is notoriously slow. could you get someone to burn the cd for you?03:21
mysticnessMy parents have a computer with a CD burner, but there's no way they'd keep a download dialog box open for that long.03:22
mysticnessAnd I can't seem to get the network view to work on my side of the connection.03:22
topylithey're on modem as well?03:22
mysticnessIt's actually supposed to be DSL, but we're so far from the source that the speed just plain sucks.03:22
elshahas anyone ever had the problems of programs just not loading? i'm trying to open gnomemeeting, it appears as 'starting' on the panel, and the cursor is 'loading', but just nothing opens. and its not in the minimised section of the panel.03:22
IIIEarsmysticness - try a net cafe or net game center.03:23
mysticnessI live out in the boonies. :(03:23
topylimysticness: time to teach them how to use download managers and dowload a bit at a time :)03:23
topylilike bittorrent03:23
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mysticnessHmm..03:23
LasseLyeah get BT03:24
topyliunless they think it's criminal03:24
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LasseLnot any more criminal than ftp03:24
bimberielsha: try running it from a terminal to see if there is an error03:24
IIIEarsgozilla or getright for windows a pretty good (adware/nagware non-free)03:24
topyliLasseL: no it's not, but some people are brainwashed to think so03:24
topyli:(03:24
mysticnessI dunno what they think. I just know that they won't keep a download open for very long. After an hour they'd probably get flustered.03:24
elshano error03:24
elshajust goes to the next line, and doesn't open it03:25
cosemekBRB, switching to my linux03:25
elshai've tried reinstalling it through the repository03:25
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mysticnessHmm..03:25
elshait just likes to break *smacks ubuntu around*03:25
sorush20guys how do I move to the root directory form terminal...03:25
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Dartsanicd /03:26
topylimysticness: it's the recommended download method03:26
mysticnessSweet.03:26
topylicheaper on them :)03:26
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mysticnessi386.torrent for a Pentium 3, correct?03:27
sorush20sam@ubuntu:/root$ gzip d pavcl_linux_i386.tgz03:27
sorush20gzip: d: No such file or directory03:27
sorush20gzip: pavcl_linux_i386.tgz: No such file or directory03:27
topylimysticness: yes03:27
bimberielsha: try using dpkg with the -P switch to fully purge the package before reinstalling03:27
elshaerr03:28
bimberielsha: removes any config files03:28
ToRTuReD_Xhmm03:28
IIIEarsmsticness - md5sum your file - md5summer or filelyzer (M$)03:28
ToRTuReD_Xseriously contemplating going back to windows03:28
elshaokies03:28
sorush20guys I keep getting these errors03:28
ToRTuReD_Xlinux is good but i need to be able to dualboot03:28
ToRTuReD_X:/03:28
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topyliToRTuReD_X: you are03:28
mysticnessmd5sum? That's Latin to me. I know what an MD5 hash is, but I don't know what it's used for.03:28
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concept10sorush20, you need to use sudo03:29
elshasorush20, why are you in /root?03:29
topylimysticness: to check that you have the same file that the server has, i.e. that the download was a success03:29
IIIEarsToRTuReD_X, - Do you have two drives installed on your macine? - poor mans grub would be to use the bios to exchange master drives on boot up.03:29
elshayou want to be in /, and you want to check if the file is actually there by typing ls | more03:29
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mysticnessHow can I do that? I'm running Win98SE at the moment.03:29
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topylimysticness: go to nonags.com or someplace and get a checksum utility for windows03:30
sorush20I keep getting the same error..... and I'm in rout because the installation instruction on the panda website suggestedit... are you saying I can be in a directory... like on the desktop.... here is the error again with the sudo command....03:31
sorush20sam@ubuntu:/root$ sudo gzip d pavcl_linux_i386.tgz03:31
sorush20gzip: d: No such file or directory03:31
sorush20gzip: pavcl_linux_i386.tgz: No such file or directory03:31
mysticnessAh, okay. I have to find my BT client first, though.. o_O;03:31
LasseLToRTuReD_X, my ubuntu set up dual booting automatically when I installed it03:31
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topylisorush20: so the file is not in /root03:31
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sorush20topyil, yes it is in root03:31
elshasorush20, obviously, the file isn't there. installation instructions "suggest" they dont know what your file management system is03:31
elshano, it isn't in root03:31
elshaobviously03:31
topylisorush20: verify with ls03:32
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topylisorush20: /root is root's home directory. the filesystem's root is /03:32
mysticnessw00t, started my download. I'll go hunt that checksum utility.03:32
jantan21hi03:32
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mpmclol03:33
topylimysticness: i get all my windows freeware from nonags, they're bound to have one03:33
sorush20I've pasted the ls output in the flood could you have a look .. the installations instructions are here http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/linux/instala.asp03:33
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echelonhmm this is intresting.03:34
topylisorush20: antivirus? are you running a mail server for windows clients?03:34
echelonYou guys use XChat or terminal?03:34
nightswimirssi03:34
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derreckXChat.03:34
echelon:D03:34
Will_irssi forever03:35
noodlexchat ><03:35
arnonymi dist-upgraded to breezy and now my firefox didn't show text anymore. the menu is just some underscores03:35
topyliechelon: xchat locally. now i'm about 500 miles away so i use irssi through ssh and screen :)03:35
wezzer-vote for irssi03:35
mysticnessIs there a particular program I want to search for? I think I remember someone saying something about "md5summer"03:35
Will_I shell to an 'always up' server and irssi there03:35
kostkonxchat03:35
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Will_I would run msn through it if I trusted bitlbee not to break03:35
sorush20topyli, no but I would like to be able to run scans ... once in a while on media....  downloaded... and files shared...03:35
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topylibitlbee would rule if it worked :(03:35
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mpmcMy Music sounds flat... wheres the boost?03:35
topylisorush20: i'm not on #flood but you should be able to read ls output and check if the file is there or not03:36
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jantan21can u share printer  windows to linux ubuntu03:37
jantan21can u help me share printer  windows to linux ubuntu03:37
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sorush20the file is there.. but here is the error again.. sam@ubuntu:/root$ sudo tar xvf pavcl_linux_i386.tar03:37
sorush20tar: invalid option --03:37
sorush20Try `tar --help' for more information.03:37
jantan21not linux to windows03:37
mysticnessHm, SmartMD5 sounds pretty good.03:37
jantan21but windows to linux03:37
echeloncan i make aliases and stuff through irssi?03:38
topylijantan21: share it on windows, install the samba client on linux03:38
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inconevenings03:38
Will_sorush20: so stop using '--'03:38
inconwell its evenings for me03:38
topyliechelon: you can do more on irssi than one can learn in a lifetime :)03:38
echelontopyli: lol?03:38
Will_irssi can use perl. this means you can do ANYTHING03:38
echelonWill_: never known perl :( .03:38
topyliechelon: therefore, i use xchat whenever i can get an X display =)03:38
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inconWill_, is open source so to can change it anyway you like :P so your plugins is not your only option03:39
sorush20will_, what do you meanso stop using '--'03:39
mysticnessCrap..03:39
echelonim kinda into scripting and stuff lately, i wanna try and make a trivia bot :P03:39
arnonymsorush20: sudo tar xvf pavcl_linux_i386.tar03:40
Will_arnonym: Thank you.03:41
arnonymWill_: :-)03:41
topyliechelon: although xchat can run perl and python scripts too03:41
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topyliechelon: the xchat text interface just sucks too much, so i use irssi on consoles03:42
mysticnessNo luck with Nonags.. I found the software, but the site I need to download from is apparently b0rked.03:42
topylihrm.03:42
inconi only launch xchat to search channel lists :/ its the only reason i find this channel as it was the default setup03:42
inconotherwise i use irssi03:42
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topyliincon: irssi doesn't search channels?03:43
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incontopyli, not that i no of03:43
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topyliincon: complain to cras :)03:43
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inconlol03:43
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thenukewell it does search channels03:43
inconif you type /list in irssi you get03:43
thenuke/help list03:43
incon21:43 -!- Irssi: Doing this is not a good idea. Add -YES option to command if03:43
incon          you really mean it03:43
char1iecha1kcan someone help me work arpwatch please03:44
thenuke"Thus, on IRCNet, you should rather use service ALIS (Advanced Listing Service), which will allow you to query for channel with specific name, topic, mode or usercount. Type /SQUERY ALIS HELP to get more info about it."03:44
Will_You don't need to paste this into the channel y'know..03:44
topyliincon: although i'm not sure he's very keen on developing irssi further. he's busy with dovecot and irssi203:44
sorush20arnonym, thanks that worked... how do I run the program now.. can someone let me know... I have put the output on the flood..03:44
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incontopyli, its not an issue for me03:45
inconi really use list03:45
inconrarely03:45
topyligenerally i know which channels i want to join :)03:45
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mysticness22 mB on my Ubuntu download.03:46
thenukeI have never used list or anything :)03:46
incontopyli, the best solution is if all irc servers had a website to search the list online03:46
mpmchow do I change the x windows manager from kdm back to gdm?03:46
thenukeIf I am interested in  linux I just type /join  linux =)03:46
thenukeand so on03:46
njanincon, isn't that what ircspy is for? :P03:46
topylimysticness: that's not a bad speed. BT is faster than ftp most of the time03:46
arnonymsorush20: i cannot help you on this. i don't know "panda antivirus"03:46
inconircspy ?03:46
njanhttp://www.ircspy.com/03:46
inconi dont want to cache a irc channel list just to search it03:47
inconits a waste of bandwidth03:47
mpmc??03:47
njanactually, I think that ircspy is more about warez, but I'm sure there's another IRC search engine out there which lists channels and does stuff like that..03:47
njanincon, what you've described is what ircspy does.03:47
topylithere's probably a web search for any irc network03:48
mpmcHow do I change the default windows manager?03:48
njanor $_other_irc_search_tool that I've forgotten about.03:48
inconnjan, when i only want to like a server is doesnt cache ?03:48
njanhttp://searchirc.com/ <= that one.03:48
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elshahey bimberi, still around?03:48
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topylimpmc: take a look in /etc/defaults, and use update-alternatives to change your defaults03:48
elshahmm, nevermind03:49
topylimpmc: /etc/alternatives even03:49
mpmcthx for answering03:49
inconnjan, nope03:49
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bimberitoo late03:49
njanincon, I have no idea what you said.03:49
inconi dont want by toipc i what by server03:49
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inconirc server03:49
techhappy sysaddmin day.03:49
echelonanyone remember how can I leave notes? something like msgserv03:49
bimberiis Jul 29 sysadmin day?03:50
inconnjan, i doesnt matter i dont care about it03:50
Randall64Megalomaniac Day!03:50
bimberilol ... that's better03:50
inconnjan, i'm sorry i'm drunk to only time i join new channels is when i have been drinking03:51
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arnonymargh. there is a mozilla-firefox package (which doesn't work) and a firefox package (which does) in breezy when using universe03:51
Poromiesbimberi: yes today is "Systemadmin Day" :)03:51
char1iecha1kanybody help me with arpwatch please03:51
bimberiheh ... oh well ... only 10 mins left :)03:51
mpmcGah... I dont know how to change kdm back to gdm!03:51
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Will_friends don't let friends irc drunk03:51
mpmchelp03:52
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inconcya's i will be back later maybe....03:53
mpmcHow do I change back gdm as default :(03:54
topylibimberi: you could celebrate sysadmin day in EEST and have more time to go :)03:54
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mpmcanyone...  I aint got a clue!03:54
topylimpmc: the same update-alternatives03:54
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mpmcehh?03:54
=== topyli wishes more newbies used wajig
=== mpmc True Linux noob :P
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topylimpmc: "update-alternatives x-display-manager" or something like that03:55
Will_wajig looks interesting03:56
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bimberimpmc: /etc/X11/default-display-manager looks promising - perhaps edit that03:56
topyliWill_: the downside is you forget most dpkg, apt and other switches :)03:56
paulproteus|jhuWill_, What's wajig?03:56
se7enoneWhy sometimes am I not able to open my cdroms either with the button or software eject?03:56
topylise7enone: probably some shell or program has it as current working dir03:57
mpmcok.. lets see03:57
ethicsse7enone, use lsof or fuser to see whats got hold of the device when it happens03:57
se7enonethx03:58
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se7enonehow would i release it then...?03:58
ethicsse7enone, also see if umount works...if it fails then the error may elude info...03:58
sorush20could anyone recommend an antivirus program please...03:58
paulproteus|jhusorush20, there are no viruses [in the wild]  for Linux systems.03:59
chortonHow can I change resolution in fluxbox?03:59
paulproteus|jhuThe closest Linux has is worms, which you can avoid by not running vulnerable services.03:59
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topylise7enone: killing the process that is using the disc. umount -l might also work03:59
paulproteus|jhusorush20, in other words, just watch the Software Update thing, and if it says to get any updates, get them.03:59
MartenHpaulproteus: that anyone knows of ;)03:59
paulproteus|jhuMartenH, Well, okay.... :)03:59
ethicsse7enone, theres a lazy unmount they say not to use for hard disks etc but dvds and cds shouldnt hurt too much....i think its umount -l  which will kill regardless of use\03:59
sorush20could anyone recommend an antivirus program please ...    what your saying that... no one on the planet has written a virus for linux....03:59
paulproteus|jhuIn the wild.03:59
ethicssorush20, clamav04:00
paulproteus|jhusorush20, There is clamav (and lots of GUIs), but that mostly looks for Windows and Mac viruses.04:00
the--dudhmm, autopackage fails for me :/04:00
topylisorush20: i used to use f-secure but it's not free. really, you don't need one since you have no clients to protect04:00
paulproteus|jhusorush20, There aren't really "viruses" on Windows or Mac anymore, either.04:00
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paulproteus|jhusorush20, Windows "viruses" in the news these days are all worms.04:00
the--dudwell, actually not autopackage itself, but lincity-NG04:00
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ethicsjust application exploits04:01
paulproteus|jhuThey attack the computer either by tricking the user into opening emails, or they break into the computer remotely.04:01
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windexhrm. no way to get ubuntu to use a promise fasttrak 100 is there?04:01
paulproteus|jhuwindex, I think mine worked out of the box.04:01
paulproteus|jhusorush20, On Linux, it's so much work to make a program executable that the first one wouldn't work against users.  And to get hacked remotely, you'd have to ignore Software Update.04:01
sorush20what about a firewall... I'm trying to enable the port 110, can someone recommend  something..04:01
ethicswindex yeah im pretty sure there is\04:01
windexpaulproteus|jhu: the partitioner hangs at 58% :)04:01
paulproteus|jhuwindex, Oh, that's sad.04:02
echelonwhat package I need to install perl?04:02
windexit also detects the drives on it as 2 seperate disks.04:02
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paulproteus|jhuwindex, Are you trying to do hardware RAID?04:02
topylisorush20: if you install a ftp server, ubuntu will likely open the port04:02
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topylisorush20: same with other services04:02
elshais it possible to have incorrect drivers installed for a webcam, and yet have it still work in xawtv?04:02
windexpaulproteus|jhu: well, the windows install on the machine uses it for hardware raid . . . as does the freebsd install? :P04:02
ethicssorush20, iptables is your firewall,  tools like firestarter and bastille etc are guis for setting it up ...04:03
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paulproteus|jhuwindex, In general, Linux support for hardware raid is weak; Linux driver delopers usually claim that most consumer-grade hardware doesn't do good RAID, so they prefer the Linux software RAID layer.04:03
echelonwhat package I need to install perl?04:03
paulproteus|jhuI think they're telling the truth, but I don't know for *sure*...04:03
paulproteus|jhusorush20, You don't have to "enable the port 110".04:03
paulproteus|jhuIf you set up a service there, you'll be listening on that port.04:03
windexpaulproteus|jhu: the problem is that windows and linux can not coexist on the same hardware in that configuration. :P04:03
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ddinkhave a problem, programs just close04:03
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drcodehi all04:04
drcodecan I share dir with ssh ?04:04
paulproteus|jhuwindex, Why not?  Just make two partitions in the same place on both drives; have Linux do software RAID between tohse two.04:04
drcodeIf I have two linux , who I can share dirs?04:04
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paulproteus|jhudrcode, Sure.  If you want to download files from your computer by SCP from Windows, use WinSCP; on Mac, use Fugu.04:04
Gentilhi04:04
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paulproteus|jhudrcode, If you have two Linux machines on the same (private) network, you'll find NFS is easier.04:04
windexpaulproteus|jhu: this motherboard only has the raid controller, no normal IDE, windows sees it as a raid controller, and it's configured as raid 0 (striped).04:05
chngod damn apache04:05
paulproteus|jhuwindex, RAID 0?04:05
drcodeNFS04:05
drcodethanx04:05
paulproteus|jhuThat's not RAID :)04:05
windexi know.04:05
drcodeis there info how to do it easy?04:05
windexbut its fast. :D04:05
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unrealhmm04:05
chnwhy doesnt it set up php4 automagically why i install php404:05
paulproteus|jhuwindex, That's true.  Sounds nice. :)04:05
paulproteus|jhuAs for making them coexist, I'm not really sure.  I should get back to doing work :)04:06
mpmcHow do I reset the fonts?04:06
unrealwhat's the name of one of those web-administration services? (not cpanel, there's a better one)04:06
paulproteus|jhuunreal, webmin?04:06
unrealheh04:06
windexpromise provides drivers. is there a way to load drivers into the install for ubuntu without freaking it out?04:06
unrealcould be :/04:06
black13is possible to rebuild the debian deb packages ... there is obviously a way to build the packages correct?04:06
unrealpaulproteous: it allows the changing of dns records for domain names and such04:07
paulproteus|jhublack13, dpkg-buildpackage or somesuch.04:07
unrealdoesn't seem to be webmin04:07
elshais it possible to have incorrect drivers installed for a webcam, and yet have it still work in xawtv?04:08
chortonHow can I change resolution in fluxbox?04:08
black13paulproteus|jhu ok04:08
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sorush20topyli, paulproteus|jhu, what service can I install using synaptic04:08
paulproteus|jhuapache, postfix, dovecot, courier-imap, vsftpd, ...04:09
IIIEarschorton xrand 800x600 - check man pages it? been awhile04:09
MartenHDoes someone have time to help me set up the icon theme found here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22989 in a working way?04:10
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sorush20paulproteus|jhu: the reason I ask is that I'm running thunderbird with the webmail extension... and on the extension I get an error that says that the port is not running... this is not the case in root login .... but I don't want to run the computer in root login.... could you help with activating the port 11004:10
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chortonIIlEars, that command doesn't exist, says the console.04:11
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fhubuntu is the best04:11
phixion...04:11
fhwhen does breezy come to play?04:11
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PrimoTurboHey guys can someone help me with something?04:12
fhwhen does breezy come uot?04:12
fhwhen does breezy come out?04:13
PrimoTurboI'm in /usr/share/wallpapers/ and I want to delete some wallpapers04:13
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PrimoTurbobut it wont let me because I don't have root04:13
phixiondo it from terminal04:13
fhrm04:13
PrimoTurbohow do I get root and delete the wallpapers I don't want?04:13
dawnfadingsudo su04:13
phixionrm /usr/share/wallpapers/filename.jpg04:13
fhrm *.png *.jpg04:13
PrimoTurboI see04:13
phixionsudo before the rm04:13
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phixion:E04:13
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PrimoTurboalright thnx I'll give it a try04:13
dawnfadingbtw, does somebody know a command to find out from which path a script or executable is executed?04:14
fhk04:14
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chortonIIlEars, that command doesn't exist, says the console.04:14
mpmchow to i reset the fonts?04:14
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fhlike wtf?04:14
arnonymdawnfading: which04:14
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fhwhat command?04:14
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b0ca0FFhi all04:15
b0ca0FFhelp-me pls04:15
fhchorton what command?04:15
dawnfadingso suppose it's a compiled c prog, then just which prog?04:15
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fhb0ca0FF ok04:15
fhb0ca0FF what is the problem04:15
fh?04:15
arnonymdawnfading: yes.04:15
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PrimoTurboAlright it worked. Thanks guys :)04:16
graabeinhi guys. anyone know how to modify themes? i want to change the colour of the active window border04:16
dawnfadinghmm, doesn't return anything at all04:16
BR-b0ca0install all system of ubuntu fh04:16
graabeini've done it once before but i can't remember how. some xml-file somewhere04:16
fh<BR-b0ca0> it's easy man04:16
chortonThe command to change resolutions in X.04:16
Dartsanidawnfading......System-Preferences-Themes04:16
arnonymdawnfading: your executable is not in the path04:16
fh<BR-b0ca0> insert the cd04:16
BR-b0ca0but initializing ths system04:16
chortonHe said to use xrand 800x60004:16
chortonAnd that command doesn't exist.04:17
fh<BR-b0ca0> and reset the computer and then you got some questions you need to answer04:17
Dartsanigraabein i meant :P04:17
arnonymchorton: it's xrandr04:17
dawnfadingokay, that makes sense anonym04:17
chortonAh.04:17
BR-b0ca0fh i'm back04:17
chorton*tries*04:17
BR-b0ca0wait04:17
dawnfadingtoo many shells open, and my path wasn't changed in the one i was working with04:17
dawnfadingthanks04:17
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graabeinDartsani, yeah i know, but i have the h20oridium window border with amber buttons... and i want to change the gray color to brown04:18
PrimoTurboHey guys where can I get some good linux wallpapers04:18
fh<BR-b0ca0> ok... i am waiting...04:18
dawnfadingpixelgirl04:18
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PrimoTurbourl?04:18
dawnfadinggoogle it04:18
dawnfadingfirst link04:18
black13what is evms04:18
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PrimoTurbok04:18
PrimoTurbothnx04:19
graabeinPrimoTurbo, i've tried pixelgirl. lots of good stuff there04:19
dawnfadingnot particular linux but still good04:19
holycowPrimoTurbo, the same places you get them for windows04:19
holycowits just an image04:19
PrimoTurboyup, exactly what I'm looking for04:19
dawnfadinghttp://www.littlefactory.com/lf.html04:19
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fhwho's from israel down here?04:19
graabeinthere was a thread in ubuntu forums with some nice links04:19
dawnfadinghas some really good backgrounds04:19
dawnfadingthey're tiled but quite unique04:19
PrimoTurboI'll check ubuntu forums also04:20
PrimoTurboanyone else using kubuntu?04:20
graabeinPrimoTurbo, search for "pixelgirl" in the forums. it will probably show up. gnome all the way here04:20
fh<PrimoTurbo> no04:20
phixionI'm using http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=27077&PHPSESSID=66e7495b80abd31b04744662f4c89b38 atm :) nice wallpapers04:20
fh<PrimoTurbo> i *love* gnome04:20
elsha#kubuntu04:20
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|rockinnerd|i've got a problem04:20
phixiongnome here too :E04:20
|rockinnerd|with alsa04:20
PrimoTurboI like gnome too but I'm just trying KDE and I like it also04:21
|rockinnerd|i try playing an mp3, or any other sound, and i hear a high-pitched squeaking in the background, suggestions?04:21
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chortonarnonym, thanks for the tip.04:21
chortonDo you know a command to restart the x server?04:21
phixionctrl alt backspace04:21
arnonymchorton: ctrl+alt+backspace04:21
shawarmaLOL04:22
arnonymworks :-)04:22
phixion:D04:22
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ethics|rockinnerd|, alsa project docs and google first04:22
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gyaresu_exit04:22
fh  ???????????04:22
graabeinwhat app do you guys use for xml-files?04:23
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|rockinnerd|what do you mean "use for xml-files"?04:23
chortonI want you all to know you are my heroes.04:23
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graabeinwhen you open a xml file for editing. syntax highlighting etc04:23
|rockinnerd|quanta maybe?04:24
python_graabein Jedit good04:24
|rockinnerd|actually, maybe kate, b/c it does syntax coloring04:24
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gyaresumeh. hello.04:24
graabeinit would be nice if it had an option for checking the file vs schema def also...04:24
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gyaresufriend used patition magic and killed his GRUB. anyone remember the process of fixing it?04:25
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gyaresuand good-evening (of course)04:25
phendhi all. I've got some code which does this: tal:attributes="href python: here.absolute_url()+'?set_status=1 -- but i'm trying to figure out where to put code which acts upon the value passed in set_status04:25
phendie. where so I look through the query string, and call a method depending on the value?04:26
|rockinnerd|gyaresu, boot offof a knoppix cd, mount your root partition, and chroot into your mount point for your root partition. Run /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda04:27
|rockinnerd|or sda if it's serial04:27
|rockinnerd|drive04:27
graabeini opened the file in bluefish. looks allright.04:27
gyaresu|rockinnerd|, aye. thanks.04:27
|rockinnerd|np04:27
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|rockinnerd|good morning all who are in the US04:28
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graabeinhmmm... looks like i have to edit some png-files to change colour of title-bar in h20ridium04:28
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billyanachronismhey :S04:29
billyanachronismI did something silly04:29
paulproteus|jhu|rockinnerd|, Good morning.04:29
thespiritoftalwhenever I open amule it says my 4662nd port is not open and I get LOWID how can i fix this problem?04:30
BR-b0ca0fh error: "fatal error, hutplup subsystem, modprobe operation not permitid"04:30
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graabeini'm from norway. just got home from work. the weekend starts here!04:30
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shawarmaDoesn anyone know when jbailey usually shows up?04:30
BR-b0ca0this error in initializing my system ubuntu warty whartog"04:30
BR-b0ca0fh error: "fatal error, hutplup subsystem, modprobe operation not permitid"04:30
BR-b0ca0this error in initializing my system ubuntu warty whartog"04:30
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|rockinnerd|so there is no coldplug daemon in ubuntu?04:31
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PrimoTurbofound a sweet earth wallpaper04:31
PrimoTurbohttp://images.customize.org/category/wallpaper/EarthView1-2_full.gif04:31
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BR-b0ca0help-me04:33
BR-b0ca0this error in initializing my system ubuntu warty whartog04:33
fhok04:33
BR-b0ca0this error in initializing my system ubuntu warty whartog"04:33
billyanachronismI changed yaboot.conf04:33
graabeinthe xml-file looks good in the default text editor gedit also04:33
gyaresuBR-b0ca0, ?04:33
billyanachronismto have a timeout of 5 seconds04:33
thespiritoftalwhenever I open amule it says my 4662nd port is not open and I get LOWID how can i fix this problem?04:33
billyanachronismand now I can't get into ubuntu :(04:33
supernixhiya gang04:33
fhwhy won't you try hoary??04:33
fhwhy won't you try hoary??04:33
fh<BR-b0ca0> why won't you try hoary??04:34
supernixanyone know of a program that can create secure passwords as well as store them ?04:34
BR-b0ca0fh $$04:34
gyaresufh, BR-b0ca0 fh this ones yours yes?04:34
fhwhat?04:34
gyaresufh, : the problem.04:34
BR-b0ca0money04:34
BR-b0ca0o dont buy to cd hoary04:34
fhdownload it04:35
supernixanyone know of a program that can create secure passwords as well as store them ?04:35
gyaresufh k. ignore me.04:35
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gyaresuBR-b0ca0, are you on dialup?04:35
fh<gyaresu> ok.. now to ignore?04:35
BR-b0ca0no04:35
BR-b0ca0adsl 1mg04:35
gyaresufh, yes.04:35
fhok04:36
znhI've made a bash script, but I'd like to let it be ran every hour - Is that possible?04:36
fhi'm ignoring...04:36
gyaresuBR-b0ca0, prefix your comments with the name of the person you talk to and 'get hoary'.04:36
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elwoodhi04:36
BR-b0ca0i only resolv this problem04:36
arnonymznh: create a cron job04:37
gyaresufh thank you.04:37
fh<gyaresu> for?04:37
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BR-b0ca0"fatal error: hotplug subsystem.... modprobe, operation not permited04:37
gyaresufh the ignoring (sarcasm)04:37
BR-b0ca0why this04:37
znharnonym: aha, so it is possible! is there a full name for it? then i'll search some manual myself04:37
fh<gyaresu> i realy don't know what you wanna04:37
gyaresufh (with smiles)04:37
fh<gyaresu> tell me plz04:37
gyaresufh (nothing)04:37
fhok04:37
gyaresufh (just joking)04:38
fhwerdoo04:38
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fhok04:38
arnonymznh: "man cron" and take a look in /etc/cron.d04:38
gyaresuBR-b0ca0, need to 'sudo' to modprobe04:38
fhbreezy go out when?04:38
BR-b0ca0gyaresu ?04:39
fh10.**?04:39
znharnonym: ah I see you already found for me, thanks! - you we're great04:39
fh<BR-b0ca0> listen man, download the new hoary04:39
BR-b0ca0ok fh04:39
fh<BR-b0ca0> and install it04:39
elwoodhappy ubuntu to meee04:39
fh<BR-b0ca0> and then use windows(just kiding)04:39
BR-b0ca0fh thanx04:39
fhnp04:40
fhsomeone here heard about the windows vista?04:40
windexlonghorn?04:40
fhthe beta is got out04:40
fhyea04:40
fhvista04:41
znharnonym: I still don't know how it works and what I have to do in cron.d04:41
ToRTuReD_X2 hours left till i have kubuntu04:41
ToRTuReD_X:/04:41
fh:\04:41
ToRTuReD_Xhmm04:41
windexsame thing. i doubt they will be able to use vista as they've now got 3 lawsuits against them for trademark infringement.04:41
ToRTuReD_Xgona format and dualboot04:41
fhgnome rules man04:41
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fh<windex> yea04:41
ToRTuReD_Xfh - tip: keep away from slackware based distros04:41
ToRTuReD_Xie - vector linux04:42
arnonymznh: for the syntax you should read "man 5 crontab"04:42
znharnonym: thanks04:42
fh<ToRTuReD_X> i know slackware sucks04:42
ToRTuReD_Xit starts automatically in console/termainal mode04:42
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ToRTuReD_Xyou have to input commands for graphical mode04:42
fh<ToRTuReD_X> i know slackware sucks04:42
SilentsolToRTuReD_X: why keep away from slackware based distros?04:42
SilentsolToRTuReD_X: im on minislack04:42
ToRTuReD_X;/04:42
fh<Silentsol> pure guy04:42
ToRTuReD_Xwoot04:42
windexslackware has a valid audience.04:42
ToRTuReD_X1 week and i should have a $600+ a week job04:43
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ToRTuReD_X:D04:43
znhkopete is too slow for irc, bye changing client04:43
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ToRTuReD_Xslackware is not for the inexperienced or intermediate user04:43
ToRTuReD_Xit's for the 4+ years advanced user04:43
fh<ToRTuReD_X> you install kubuntu?04:43
SilentsolToRTuReD_X: ive been using linux for 2 weeks04:43
ToRTuReD_Xnah man, downloading now04:43
SilentsolToRTuReD_X: my first ever experience with linux has been with minislack. 2 weeks ago04:43
ToRTuReD_Xi wanna see some screencaps of it though04:43
ToRTuReD_X:/04:44
fh<ToRTuReD_X> so let me tell you something...04:44
fh<ToRTuReD_X> GNOME PWZ you all!!!!!!!04:44
fhlol04:44
ToRTuReD_Xlmao04:44
ToRTuReD_Xi know man04:44
ToRTuReD_Xi was on ubuntu04:44
fhyea yea04:44
chni guess well see when longhorn comes out04:44
ToRTuReD_Xbut decided to put in a command for the graphics drivers that crashed the GUI04:44
phixionwhen it comes out? its out :P04:44
ToRTuReD_Xso i had to format then grub wouldn't install off my install disc04:44
ToRTuReD_X:/04:44
phixionwell, only beta04:45
chnphixion, the final04:45
phixionMicrosoft.Windows.Vista.Codename.Longhorn.Beta.1.64Bit.DVD.READ.NFO04:45
phixion:E04:45
fh<phixion> blat04:45
ToRTuReD_Xnforce.nl mofo04:45
ToRTuReD_X:D04:45
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chnim trying to get the beta to see what linux is up against04:45
phixionmope04:45
phixionnope :P04:45
fh<phixion> too much info04:45
fh:)04:45
sorush20anyone here using KDAR04:45
phixionand its windows vista04:45
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phixionnot longhorn :D04:45
the--dudI'm writing a howto on installing lincity-ng from source now, anyone interested to test it out when I'm done?04:45
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gyaresuyour windows is weak04:45
the--dud'beta-tester' if you'd like hehe04:45
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elwoodthe--dud, lincitythe game?04:46
dawnfadingexit04:46
vader1102morning everone04:46
ToRTuReD_Xthe--dud,  if you include a guide to set it up, AND install wine and steam then i will04:46
fh<gyaresu> so take him to the gim04:46
ToRTuReD_X:D04:46
the--dudelwood, yeah, the remake of lincity04:46
ToRTuReD_Xwait04:46
elwoodthe--dud, i can04:46
the--dudToRTuReD_X, its linux native04:46
ToRTuReD_Xlincity04:46
ToRTuReD_Xlmao04:46
ToRTuReD_Xsounds liek a distro name04:46
windexi'm a microsoft registered partner. vista/longhorn is not all that impressive to me over XP.04:46
ToRTuReD_X;/04:46
the--dudmessage me anyone interested, too much chatting here hehe04:46
chnphixion, yea, just when you thought xp was a lame and overhyped name04:46
elwooduhm where i can find longhorn?04:47
phixionits xp with a lame ass theme :)04:47
gyaresufh 'the gim'?04:47
the--dudthere's a sleazy bar in my town called Vista04:47
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ToRTuReD_Xsomeone make a good guide for wine and steam04:47
chnelwood, diverse bt sites04:47
ToRTuReD_X:/04:47
sorush20could someone help me with an installation error....04:47
the--dudi suppose mr bill gates never knew that!04:47
elwoodthe--dud, u have to get sources compile and play?04:47
vader1102windex: I have heard through the grapevine that the sys req. is really high for longhorn04:47
ph8lo all04:47
ph8i'm runnig hoary04:47
ph8is there like an unstable branch?04:47
the--dudelwood, just testing it out myself now... autopackage install seems not to work04:47
chnvader1102, its faster than xp04:47
ph8or does ubuntu not work like that?04:47
the--dudso yeah, sources it is04:47
fh<gyaresu> nvm04:47
chnthey say it is at least04:47
elwoodthe--dud, i can be a tester :)04:47
gyaresufh k04:47
windexvader1102: you know all that crap in XP that uses CPU to make it look pretty? fading menus in and out? etc? there's more of that crap in longhorn and it's harder to disable all of it.04:48
chnbut everyone claims it runs better than xp04:48
arnonymph8:  there is breezy04:48
ph8beta?04:48
arnonymph8: pre-alpha04:48
ToRTuReD_Xi think i'll hold off on linux for a while04:48
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ph8don't fancy that :p04:48
fhbreezy doesn't got X04:48
phixionwhat are you running atm ToRTuReD_X ?04:48
ph8anything bad about using the universe sources for hoary-security and main?04:48
ToRTuReD_Xtill i can afford to buy a cheap linux box and install it as a network server04:48
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ToRTuReD_X:P04:48
ToRTuReD_Xright now phixion i'm using Vector Linux04:49
the--dudnot to mention Vista will have DRM far up your rectum04:49
ToRTuReD_Xwas using Ubuntu 5.0404:49
phixiono_O04:49
vader1102I am going to stay away from it but I will have to learn it because I am a pc consultant in my area and you know the writers for all of these viruses, they will keep me busy lol04:49
phixionnever heard of it04:49
gyaresuXP == $220AU with a HDD or CPU04:49
phixionurl?04:49
ToRTuReD_Xand Windows XP Service Pack 2 before that04:49
vader1102I am using Hoary right now lol04:49
the--dudthe wonders up the microsoft/intel DRM services04:49
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ToRTuReD_Xwww.vectorlinux.com04:49
windexToRTuReD_X: k, i am not a linux on the desktop guy, for business anyway, until i installed ubuntu and got it working. ubuntu easially provides a stable business desktop enviroment, and it has enough utilities to provide a home system, with the noted lack of off the shelf software.04:49
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ToRTuReD_Xnot half bad04:50
phixionwhat's vector linux like?04:50
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ToRTuReD_Xbut not for the newb04:50
ToRTuReD_Xso i'm gonna change04:50
chnwindex, well theres a long way left04:50
ToRTuReD_Xit's good but doesn't come with alot of packages04:50
fhToRTuReD_X it's like a distro04:50
justizzHi! Could someone "pro" tell me how to remove Grub-loader?04:50
chnpersonally id think theres many distros way closed to being a desktop linux04:50
justizzon ubuntu04:50
chnmost of them are just to anal04:50
chni hate rpm distros04:51
fh<justizz> why?04:51
fh<justizz> why to remove grub?04:51
windexchn: that's true, but i can go take hoary, install it on a business desktop, and have it work for people who need office/web/mail in business.04:51
justizzmy friend installed ubuntu to harddisk which isnt his own ;)04:51
Whistlerjustizz just use fix mbr04:51
billyanachronismhey hey dudes04:51
davroHi are there any good howto's on setting a ubuntu as a home dhcp cablebox come firewall, using two network cards, kinda like smoothwall?.04:51
fh<justizz> ok, sudo apt-get remove grub (i think)04:51
justizzhow does it work?04:51
billyanachronismwhat do I do to fix this problem eyy04:51
vader1102chn: I here that the RPM doesn't allways get all of the "other stuff" you need, like dependancies04:51
echelonhmm i've started learning perl.04:51
justizzok04:51
windexchn: and it seems to work pretty well on Dell n-series machines (n-series = no OS), and since i'm a dell reseller ... :)04:51
ToRTuReD_Xwell04:51
billyanachronismI put the timeout of 5 seconds on yaboot04:51
echelonHow can I make perl scripts run in irssi or whatsoever?04:52
justizzill try :P04:52
ToRTuReD_Xwhat i plan to do is install windows again04:52
billyanachronismso I can't actually get to linux before it goes to mac os x04:52
elwoodlonghorn smeel as macox04:52
chnubuntu needs a gfx installer04:52
ToRTuReD_Xmaybe dualboot linux for php and python04:52
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ToRTuReD_Xi'll see what happens04:52
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fh<justizz> luck04:52
chnnad some shine new crap that seperates it from the herd04:52
the--dudiconv04:52
chnand04:52
jantan21hi all04:52
fhhi04:52
fhsup joni?04:52
jantan21where is download xmms ?04:52
thespiritoftalhow can i view hidden directories in /home/user?04:52
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jantan21do you now?04:53
fh<jantan21> you get xmms with ubuntu04:53
davrols -a04:53
elwoodhave you ever tried winxpe?04:53
jantan21where is location ?04:53
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vader1102elwood: yes I have, I use it @ the office 6 days a week04:53
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jantan21fh :where is location ?04:54
crimsunjantan21: use Synaptic or aptitude/apt-get/dselect to search for and install XMMS. The package name is 'xmms'.04:54
fh<jantan21> applicasions (on top)04:54
elwoodit's useful...live windows live problems :)04:54
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fh<crimsun> i think he got xmms with install04:54
phixion ToRTuReD_X why do you plan on reinstalling windows?04:54
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vader1102I would rather use the knoppix or the ubuntu live cd's they really allow you to examine what has gone wrong04:55
gyaresutell jantan21 about !sources04:55
gyaresu!sources04:55
ubotufrom memory, sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:55
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phixionhaha04:55
phixionowned!04:55
mtronproblems with mounting my 3rd gen ipod. whwen i connect it via firewire it does not go into disk mode. how can i reload the necessary modules?04:55
techany using kubuntu here?04:55
fh<phixion> lol04:55
crimsuntech: there's #kubuntu, too04:55
python_nope GNOME rocks04:55
ToRTuReD_Xphixion,  i need it for steam, and for my websites04:56
fh<phixion> owneage!04:56
elwoodyes gnome and pam usb :)04:56
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ToRTuReD_Xphotoshop04:56
ToRTuReD_Xi'm lost without it04:56
ToRTuReD_X;_;04:56
elwoodToRTuReD_X,  and gimp?04:56
ToRTuReD_Xewww04:56
IIIEarsGood Morning crimsun :)04:56
ToRTuReD_Xworst image editor i've ever tried04:56
fh<ToRTuReD_X> sudo apt-get install gimp04:56
ToRTuReD_Xand i've used paintshop pro04:57
fh<ToRTuReD_X> :\04:57
CarlFKcan the bluetooth code for freebsd be compiled for linux, or does it need to be ported/rewritten?04:57
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python_Tortured use the GIMP04:57
fh<ToRTuReD_X> windows than?04:57
ToRTuReD_Xlmao04:57
ToRTuReD_Xindeed04:57
ToRTuReD_Xunless i can find and install VMware04:57
fh<ToRTuReD_X> or use wine04:57
ToRTuReD_Xtried to install04:58
ToRTuReD_Xdamn near impossible04:58
ToRTuReD_Xit hates me :(04:58
python_GIMP is Great04:58
python_Ive used photoshop two and GIMP does what photoshop does04:58
python_just have to use it a bit04:58
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fh<ToRTuReD_X> me too man, me too.04:58
ToRTuReD_Xpython_,  i will bitchslap you so hard gangis kahn will fell it and say wtf was that?04:58
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phixionim more familiar with ps cs204:59
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windexor install that program that renames gimp's features to look exactally like photoshop04:59
ToRTuReD_Xphixion, same here04:59
python_I disagree, you just dont wanna learn new programs04:59
virtuelgimpshop04:59
ToRTuReD_Xis what i use04:59
fh<ToRTuReD_X> try to read some guides about gimp and you love it04:59
ToRTuReD_Xi miss my baby04:59
ToRTuReD_X:(04:59
python_gimp is open source04:59
ToRTuReD_Xso is warez04:59
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ToRTuReD_XLMFAO04:59
ToRTuReD_X<_<04:59
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phixionopen source doesnt make any difference :P04:59
virtuellet's face it: gimp is just no match for photoshop for professionals04:59
ToRTuReD_Xyou didn't see that05:00
phixionps cs2 is the most superior image editor05:00
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sandistortured: warez!=oss05:00
python_the whole point of linux is open source!!05:00
fh<phixion> yes it  does05:00
fh<phixion> it's open05:00
chnmmmn05:00
phixionsigh05:00
vader1102I am starting to use Inkscape a little bit, so far so good05:00
windexgimp is substantially less broken than print types like to say it is. the only real issue that remains with gimp is no native cmyk but they're trying to fix that. considering most print work is done by supplying pantone colors and using distinct colors to map regions, anyway, though...05:00
phixionif you are used to cs2, and u know how to use it ALOT better than gimp05:00
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virtuelpython_, for some, maybe. for me the point of linux is having something that "just works"05:00
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phixioni dont see why open source would make ANY difference05:00
ToRTuReD_Xpython_, tell that to suse and redhat05:00
ToRTuReD_Xdamn bastards05:00
CarlFKwhat is  ps cs2 ?05:00
DemostrikeAhh can anyone explain to me why ubuntu has no "build" directory05:01
crimsun(topic's straying pretty far off-topic)05:01
ToRTuReD_Xphotoshop cs205:01
tritiumDemostrike, for what?05:01
ToRTuReD_Xphotoshop creative suite 205:01
jowia user can mount cdrom but not samba shares. what to do?05:01
vader1102hey tritium, how are you today?05:01
fh<phixion> cuz you can change the open source and it's free and more powerfull05:01
CarlFKthanks05:01
tritiumvader1102, not bad, you?  The movers are here moving us out...05:01
elshaplease guys, i've been struggling with this for about 7 hours... i've installed my appropriate webcam driver, and it's working fine in xawtv, but when i try to use gnomemeeting it says to check the permissions and that i've installed the right drivers. i've checked the permissions, and the group my user in has read write access as it should. i've removed gnomemeeting package, and reinstalled it. I'm trying to eliminate problems, so would xawt05:01
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elshav work with the webcam if it was the incorrect drivers?05:01
fh<phixion> you bill!05:01
python_why whats wrong with suse or redhat05:01
Demostriketritium Apparently im suppossed to be making a driver for my wireless card05:01
phixionfh, it comes down to what you are used to, i took YEARS learning PS2 to the extent I know now05:01
vader1102oh, have fin dude... glad it is you and not me lol05:01
crimsunDemostrike: did you install build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?05:02
tritiumvader1102, well, I'm glad to be moving home :)05:02
vader1102true05:02
tritiumDemostrike, okay, where do you expect the dir?05:02
vader1102I just hate moving05:02
phixionluckily i only use gimp for editing the odd image05:02
fh<phixion> if i'm, telling you it's more coll so it more right?05:02
ToRTuReD_Xwell05:02
Demostrikecrimsun hang on ill check, :)05:02
windexelsha: video on linux is a hard topic to help people with, and last i knew, still changed frequently, breaking apps in the process. what cam do you have?05:02
ToRTuReD_Xi'm off guys05:02
fh<phixion> cool*05:02
ToRTuReD_Xgonna go revert back to xp05:02
python_dump your proprietry apps and use alternatives that are open source or free software05:02
phixionfh, english plz05:02
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phixionI don't understand your question :E05:02
Demostriketritium under my kernel directory05:03
vader1102IIIEars: how are you?05:03
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elshawindex, a logitech quickcam express. it's just so frustrating because it's working on another program :(05:03
fh<phixion> open source it's cool that's all, are we understand?05:03
windexelsha: i have the same cam. let me boot my ubuntu machine and turn it on and see if i can make it work. :)05:03
IIIEarshi vader! :)05:03
tritiumDemostrike, okay.  I see crimsun is helping you.  I'll not butt in...05:03
phixionfh, yes its cool, but it wont help me understand a program anymore :D05:04
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crimsuntritium: no, that's fine, I'm leaving for a meeting in a few :)05:04
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elshawindex, cool :)05:04
Demostrikeill need to load ubuntu back up, ill be back05:04
fh <phixion> and now you have to say "yes sor!"05:04
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vader1102tritium: I love this Hoary....it got my sound working on this laptop out of the box05:04
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tritiumcrimsun, ah, okay.  And I'm getting moved out today, so I may be out of touch for a few days.05:04
crimsuntritium: k05:04
elwoodthis woram is killing me05:04
tritiumvader1102, excellent :)05:04
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phixionfh i think we all agree open source is better, but it wont change my mind about PS and gimp05:05
fh<phixion> ok fine!05:05
metaelsha - pm me the output of a "lsusb" command05:05
vader1102tritium: Ubuntu user for life ;-)05:05
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tritiumyep ;)05:05
fh<phixion> so i'm 1337 and you not!05:05
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paulproteus|jhumeta, consider using the pastebot so others can join in05:05
MartenHCan someone hepl me gett his Icon theme operational? It doesn't show up as it should. http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2298905:05
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fh<phixion> blat, those kides.05:05
xieUm, I just installed Ubuntu (an older distro) on an older computer I have, and something is definetly broken. When it boots up the screen just shows a bunch of bouncy colorful snow, and no desktop.05:06
phixionfh o_O you = weirdo :D05:06
elwoodMartenH, download and install05:06
windexelsha: logging in over vnc..05:06
paulproteus|jhuxie, Hoary or Warty?05:06
fh<phixion> yes05:06
paulproteus|jhuIn general, we urge you to use the current release, Hoary.05:06
xieNot an option right now05:06
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windexhm05:06
fh<phixion> you microscop(microsoft)05:06
windexelsha: can i PM you?05:07
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xieI just ordered the CDs, but all I have is a CD that says "Version 4.10 windows x/86"05:07
phixionfh no i use ubuntu05:07
xieerr Intel not windows05:07
fh<phixion> and ps in windows05:07
chnhmmm hmm hmm05:07
phixionyes fh...05:07
phixionyour point?05:07
metaelsha -  the 046d:0840 id cam should be supported by this driver http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/ (go download, then get qc-usb script from sourceforge download)05:07
fh<phixion> you use windows!!! let's kill him boys!05:07
chn3rd time using ubuntu and im back to compiling from source heheh05:07
phixionno i use ubuntu05:07
phixionand only ubuntu05:07
phixionWEIRDO05:07
MartenHelwood: I downlaoded it, placed it in ~/.icons and it shows up when i go to system->themes. But the icons doesn't show up and some (such as show desktop) are broken05:07
fh<phixion> lol05:08
fh<phixion> i was just playing man05:08
fh<phixion> take it easy05:08
MartenHelwood: there is a menu addon that might be needed for it to work but I have no idea how to install that05:08
metaelsha - my 870 id worked with that script, just make sure you a) install kernel headers (search synaptic) and b) "sudo -s -H" to fully become root before you run it because the script doesn't understand sudo, only su05:08
fhok need to go guys05:09
fhbye05:09
elshameta, yeah, i definitely did both a and b when i installed it05:09
elshai'll redo it anyways05:09
metaelsha - the other point is make sure gnome meeting is using v4l not v4l2, you may need to synaptic v4l in05:10
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elshaah, it is on v4l205:11
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metaelsha - I think only "libpt-plugins-v4l2" is installed default and you might need  "libpt-plugins-v4l", search synaptic for "v4l" and see if you have it05:13
DemostrikeOkay, i cant find the build dir in the modules/(version)/ folder05:14
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tritiumDemostrike, you mean /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build ?05:14
Demostrikeyes :)05:15
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Demostrikedo i need to install a package05:15
elshaYAY \o/05:15
metaelsha - working?05:15
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elshayup!05:16
fh!cmd PRIVMSG hi all05:16
ubotufh: I don't know, could you explain it?05:16
elshameta, thanks a lot :)05:16
fh<ubotu> what?05:16
metaelsha - no probs05:16
xieOK I just rebooted, it's using the older "Warty" release, I'm assuming it doesn't recognize whatever video adapter I'm using, do I have any options besides wait 6 weeks for a new cd?05:16
fh<ubotu> what to explain?05:16
tritiumDemostrike, did you install linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?05:16
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DemostrikeI couldnt find them05:16
fh!cmd PRIVMSG #ubuntu :hi all05:17
bot666hi all05:17
ubotufh: Are you smoking crack?05:17
fhno05:17
j_fletcherI wish I was05:17
fh!cmd PRIVMSG #ubuntu :no hell no! crack is no good man!05:17
bot666no hell no! crack is no good man!05:17
ubotufh: that's too long05:17
tritiumDemostrike, please try this: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"05:17
j_fletcherbot666: well done, sherlock :)05:17
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Demostrikething is i have to restart to get into linux, in on windows atm05:17
j_fletcherul05:17
fh!cmd PRIVMSG #ubuntu :thanks05:18
bot666thanks05:18
ubotufh: I don't know05:18
fh!cmd PRIVMSG #ubuntu :what you don't know?05:18
bot666what you don't know?05:18
ubotufh: I don't know, could you explain it?05:18
tritiumfh, what are you doing?05:18
fhnothing :)05:18
Demostriketritium: I'm not in ubuntu atm because i need the build files to get my network card working, so what will this do?05:19
tritiumDemostrike, okay.  Well, that's what you need to install.05:19
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tritiumOh, you have no net access in linux?05:19
Demostriketritium and it'll be there by default? already there, i just need to run the command?05:19
Demostrikeno05:19
tritiumDemostrike, that command would install the headers that you need05:19
bot666fh is a good guy05:19
IIIEars!webcam05:19
ubotu[webcam]  Support for webcams with messenger-like programs will be available in the next version of amsn (already in the CVS version) and with gaim-vv05:19
chortonCan anyone give me some pointers on getting bitlbee up and running?05:19
Demostrikeyeah it doesnt have net access05:19
bot666he dosen't do anything05:20
bot666and i'm not bot!05:20
Demostrikeis there a manual download i could put on cd or floppy05:20
tritiumDemostrike, okay.  I don't believe that the headers are on the install CD.  You'll have to download it to a CD, as you suggest.05:20
Demostrikewhere can i find them05:20
MikeWHi guys. Is Horay faster and more responsive than Warty?05:20
tritiumDemostrike, one second05:20
fh!cmd PRIVMSG #ubuntu :and i'm not bot!05:20
bot666and i'm not bot!05:20
ubotufh: Are you smoking crack?05:20
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fh<ubotu> no!!!!!!!!05:20
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fh<ubotu> what is wrong with you man?05:21
IIIEarsubotu webcam is also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47841 and GQcam http://cse.unl.edu/~cluening/gqcam/05:21
ubotuIIIEars: okay05:21
tritiumfh, okay, you've had your fun.  Please stop05:21
nevinMikeW: in genereal, not really, as its just newer software, but some stuff may be changed to run faster (optimizations and such)05:21
nevinMikeW: also, you may find better support for hw05:21
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tritiumDemostrike, here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/devel/05:21
tritiumgrab the one that matches your kernel version _exactly_05:22
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Demostrikeok thanks05:22
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tritiumDemostrike, which kernel are you using?05:22
fh<tritium> i don't know what are you talking about and he ask me agian and again if i'm smoking and i said i don't so what the hell?05:22
Demostrikeill have to check05:22
tritiumfh, ubotu is a bot05:23
fhyea?05:23
MikeWnevin: hmm, I installed warty on my celeron 533 with 128 ram, and found it slow, especially launching firefox and even terminal windows. I removed the partition. Strange, because firefox on winxp was much much faster. I was wondering if horay was noticably faster than warty05:23
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fhso why he ask if i smoke?05:23
tritiumso don't be surprised if he keeps asking you that05:23
tritiumDemostrike, okay, you can check with the command "uname -r"05:23
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Demostriketritium im running warty 4.10 the kernerl for that, 1 sec05:24
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tritiumDemostrike, oh, then wait.05:24
MyKq3hello05:24
metaok, I just owned firefox with an upgrade from synaptic... "/.gtkrc-2.0:2: Unable to find include file: ".gtkrc-2.0-scrollbar_cog"05:24
tritiumI gave you a URL for hoary, Demostrike05:24
fh<tritium> anyway i got here a bot and i give him some commands so i can't stop05:24
Demostrikeahh ok05:24
nevinMikeW: that may just be because gnome is taking up some serious horsepower; 128MB RAM has become unfortunately not quite adequate for the big desktop managers (I know your position, I just upgraded from 128MB to 1.5GB)05:24
tritiumDemostrike, have you tried hoary instead?  You may not have to build modules for your NIC.05:24
fh<tritium> you know what? i will give my bot command in private05:25
tritiumthanks05:25
Bubbling_ZombieMikeW, you might try xfce. It's much lighter05:25
fhnp05:25
Bubbling_Zombie*want to05:25
phixionMikeW, you can't expect anything to be fast with a low end system like that05:25
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Demostriketritium well basically im trying to get my wireless card working, and following a tutorial its asking me for these files05:25
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Demostrikeits an acx111 or something05:26
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tritiumDemostrike, okay, but if I'm just suggesting you try hoary if you can.05:26
MikeWBubbling_Zombie: is that included on the ubuntu cd? I still can't get my head around with having to download packages for my distribution and trying to find some way to make them work05:26
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DakelHas anyone here had problems getting to GOOGLE due to their firewall? In my case, only google and related sites are affected. I'm using Firestarter to manage my firewall.05:26
Bubbling_ZombieMikeW, no clue.05:26
Demostrikeokay, what would it do? i mean id have to download a whole cd05:26
Demostrikewhats so different?05:27
MikeWphixion: I'd be happy if it ran as fast as windows xp does on that box. The machine flies with windows05:27
nevinMikeW: xfce is a fairly small download, and gdm should present you with an easy option for using it instead of gnome05:27
tritiumDemostrike, there are updates and improvements with each release.05:27
phixionceleron 533 with 128mb ram flying? :P05:27
tritiumwhich driver are you building, Demostrike05:27
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tritium?05:27
Bubbling_Zombiephixion, if you strip it down it'll fly05:27
Bubbling_Zombie:)-05:27
phixion:D05:27
Bubbling_Zombiei know mine does.05:27
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bugzI have a question about screen resolutions...05:28
Demostriketritium http://acx100.sourceforge.net/index.html thats the homepage05:28
hilachaplz.. there are some squid jedi that can helpme?05:28
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hilachamy question is: "i have "acl usuarios_full proxy_auth "/etc/squid/acl_usuarios_full" and http_access allow usuarios_full. I autenticate with a right user, but i get: ' The request GET http://housecall-p.activeupdate.trendmicro.com:80/activeupdate/server.ini is DENIED, because it matched 'usuarios_full'!!!!!!!!!!"05:28
nevinMikeW: you may want to try vector linux, its a much lighterweight distro05:29
bugzUh, my only option for screen resolutions is 640x480...how do I get 1024x768 on there?05:29
nevinMikeW: however xfce should work fine with ubuntu on your box05:29
tritiumDemostrike, I see.05:29
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d3vicehi all05:29
nevinbugz: you're going to need to edit your xorg.conf file05:29
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bugzYes, I know. But, I'm not sure which part to edit, or what to change it to05:29
Bubbling_Zombietry05:30
Demostriketritium so the hedge is a newer version?05:30
Bubbling_Zombiesudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:30
tritiumbugz, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"05:30
nevinbugz: in your "screen" section, there is a list of resolutions05:30
d3vicei deleted /etc/webmin folder, now i can't uninstall webmin, anyway to force it with apt-get/dpkg ?05:30
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nevinbugz: tritium's idea may be simpler for you05:30
tritiumBubbling_Zombie, :)05:30
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bugzI'll try editing the xorg file, if I mess up, I can just reinstall Ubuntu, I just got it installed like 5 minutes ago05:31
tritiumbugz, you should not need to reinstall05:31
gyaresu!resolution05:31
ubotu[resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:31
nevinbugz: use tritium's idea: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:31
bugzAlright05:31
Bubbling_Zombiebugz, the x-server (your xorg) is only a smart part05:31
nevinor ubotu's05:31
Bubbling_Zombiethat can be fixed :x05:31
gyaresutell bugz about resolution05:31
FHs_botwho needs help?05:31
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sproingieis there a way to add gtk themes without installing gnome?05:32
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arnonymbye05:32
FHs_botbye05:32
Demostriketritium so the hedge is a newer version?05:32
FHs_botsomeone needs help?05:32
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tritiumDemostrike, yes, hoary is newer.05:32
IIIEarsubotu xserver is also or !xwindows05:33
ubotuIIIEars: okay05:33
sproingiehm, just discovered the kcontrol for gtk-qt, nevermind05:33
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Demostrikei have the hoary live cd, i cant instal or upgrade from that can i05:33
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tritiumDemostrike, there is an acx_pci driver in hoary05:33
tritiumIt's for the acx10005:33
FHs_botwhy ubuntu dosen't upgrade firefox when needed?05:34
Demostrikeahh, i need a acx 11105:34
ubulinuxhello, Every once in a while, my logout menu changes from the default (that offersLock Screen, Reboot, etc.) to one that only offers Logout. Does anyone know where the Log Out menu options are controlled?05:34
tritiumDemostrike, it'll work for that too05:34
bugzI'm doing the dpkg xserver thing, let's see if it can find it...05:34
Demostrikeoh okay, thanks05:34
metaFHs_bot, well my firefox just got owned and now won't load at all05:34
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Demostrikei guess ill download it then05:34
Demostrikethanks :) tritium05:34
tritiumDemostrike, this is from "modinfo acx_pci":  description:    Driver for TI ACX1xx based wireless cards (CardBus/PCI/USB)05:34
FHs_bot:\05:34
FHs_botsucks man05:35
Demostrikelright05:35
FHs_botin gentoo firefox is upgraded when needed05:35
tritiumless work, more fun, Demostrike :)05:35
Demostrikeif i download hegdehog do i have to wipe warty or will it upgrade05:35
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Bubbling_Zombieit'll upgrade05:35
tritiumDemostrike, please consider Bubbling_Zombie's advice, and simply upgrade05:36
Demostrikethanks05:36
Demostrikei am upgrading05:36
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Demostrikei gotta wait till it downloads -_-05:36
bugznevin, how many KB should I set to be used by my video card?05:36
fhwell ubuntu realy need to upgrade security packages once for a while05:36
tritiumfh, such as?05:36
nevinbugz: in most cases, it'll be auto-detected05:36
fhfirefox05:36
tritiumit's already up to 1.0.605:36
Goeki wanna mount an iso-file and for that i use 'mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/iso05:37
fhno in hoary05:37
brian__Strange lockups with Ubuntu amd64.  keyboard locks, cursor remains operational. Have to hit the front powerswitch to get maching to shutdown05:37
chrissturmubuntu firefox has all fixes applied05:37
Goeki've made /mnt/iso05:37
Goekand i'm root05:37
nevinbugz: do you know how much you have?  if you do, eneter it anyways05:37
gyaresuGoek, yessum...05:37
tritiumfh, yep in hoary05:37
bugzOh ok, I didn't finish reading the thing >_>05:37
fhwith apt-get dist-upgrade man?05:37
gyaresuGoek, and maybe -t iso966005:37
Goekit asks for what filesystem, and i really don't know05:37
Goekok05:37
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tritiumfh, you don't need dist-upgrade, just upgrade.  It was a security fix a few days ago05:37
Bubbling_Zombiemount -t iso9660 -o loop image.iso /mnt/iso <- try that Goek05:38
Demostrikeis there a bittorrent link for hoary install cd05:38
d3vicei deleted /etc/webmin folder, now i can't uninstall webmin, anyway to force it with apt-get/dpkg ?05:38
fhcool i haven't noticed05:38
fhthx man05:38
vader1102see you guys this evening, time to go and make some money05:38
fhmy bot is happy too05:38
Bubbling_ZombieDemostrike, do you have ubuntu installed?05:38
Demostrikeyes05:38
FHs_boti'm happy05:38
Bubbling_Zombieyou might want to try updating thru synaptic/apt05:38
tritiumfh, that's great, but can we keep him quiet please?05:38
Demostrikei cant i need the wireless driver05:38
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Bubbling_Zombieoh, that way05:39
Demostrikewhich is on hoary05:39
Goekmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop5,05:39
Bubbling_Zombieah, i see :x05:39
fh<tritium> yes just look when he goes05:39
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fh!part #ubuntu :bye all!05:39
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ubotufh: I don't know, could you explain it?05:39
Demostrikejust i tried to download it and it finished after 100 mb and was corrupt...05:39
tritiumfh, thank you05:39
JadeRobbinsquestion: i am running a command from the console, and i want the results to be put into a new text file. How do i do that?05:39
gyaresuGoek, loop5? do you have other iso files mounted?05:39
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ValheruLordhi all.. i found something called splashy.. it shows boot process procent. Some friends told me that i can find themes for splashy. Wher ecan i find ?05:40
fh<tritium> just say when05:40
Goeki have had an other iso mounted, but i just umounted it05:40
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tritiumfh, it's just such a busy channel, that it's best.  I appreciate your cooperation.  :)05:40
Bubbling_ZombieDemostrike, there are bittorrent links on the download pages, alongside with the regular *.iso's05:40
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gyaresuGoek, you may have run out of block devices for loop devices...05:40
gyaresuGoek, but if you only had one other...05:40
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JadeRobbinscan anyone help me? :(05:40
Demostrikeoh yeah, thank05:40
fh<tritium> as i said it's not a problem man05:40
JadeRobbinsi should know how to do that, but i'm retarded05:40
tritiumvery cool, fh :)05:41
gyaresuJadeRobbins, depends on the command ....05:41
JadeRobbinsokay, lspci05:41
Bubbling_Zombielspci > bleh.txt05:41
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metaJadeRobbins - command > file.txt05:41
JadeRobbinsthank you so much guys ;)05:41
gyaresuJadeRobbins, some commands come with 'options'05:41
Bubbling_Zombie>> if you want to append05:41
fhfirefox (1.0.6)  1.0.6  1.0.2  0.10.1 not cool(http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu)05:41
gyaresumeta, not all commands...05:41
DemostrikeAnd kaboom, bittorrent is off05:41
Bubbling_Zombie^-^05:41
fhhoary with 1.0.205:42
fhsee http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu05:42
Demostrikeyeah i noticed that, firefox was outdated lol05:42
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metagyaresu - yeah I suppose, top, and the like aren't going to play well with that, heh05:42
faenaloha everyone05:42
Bubbling_Zombiehello05:42
elwoodbut when i order cd can i also order a girl packed with it?05:42
JadeRobbinsGIAM's irc colors are all crappy05:42
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gyaresumeta, :) aye.05:42
tritiumfh, you're not finding 1.0.6?05:42
JadeRobbinsanyone else notice that?05:42
Bubbling_Zombieelwood, yes.05:43
faenjust switched from mandriva, have to re-learn linux now05:43
Bubbling_ZombiexD05:43
tritium!info firefox05:43
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elwood!info cd05:43
tritium!info mozlilla-firefox05:43
Demostrike!info mozlilla-firefox05:43
sorush20guys what is QT and how do I make sure I have it installed or not.. when I do a search on the synaptic there are lots of packages...05:43
chnwhere do i turn on php support in apache205:43
fh<tritium> in brezzy it's 1.0.6 in hoary 1.0.2 (http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu)05:43
chn?????????????????05:43
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d3vicehow do i force a package to uninstall ?05:43
elwoodsorush20, qt are libraries05:43
JadeRobbinscan i do the >> with a tail command?05:43
tommi^I have /home partition made with debian unstable. Every time I boot e2fsck complains that it has newer features and can't be checked. Can I use backports to fix this problem and what package should I be looking for?05:43
tritium!info mozilla-firefox05:44
JadeRobbinsor do i pipe it into an editor?05:44
ubotumozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 8581 kB, Installed size: 24100 kB05:44
Goekdarn05:44
nevind3vice: apt-get remove package?05:44
fh1.0.2-0ubuntu505:44
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faenjust made fresh install of hoary, what firewall if any is used, and where is the security config type stuff?05:44
chnand whats up with the lame virtual host thingie05:44
chnGRrrrr05:44
elwoodJadeRobbins, yes tail -f /var/log/messages | grep usb > pippo.txt05:44
nevinfh: I'm downloading 1.06 as we speak via apt05:44
d3vicenevin, yes, it exists with status 2, doesnt resolve the problem05:44
Demostrikewell you can just update anyway05:44
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sorush20elwood, I'm trying to install KDAR and its one of the dependencies....05:44
Bubbling_Zombieactually05:44
fh<nevin> if you say05:44
Bubbling_Zombieqt is a framework05:44
Bubbling_Zombie:x05:44
elwoodsorush20, with apt?05:45
tritiumthis is the version from hoary-security 1.0.6-0ubuntu0.105:45
tritiumfh, make sure you've enabled hoary-security05:45
thoreauputicfaen: a default install of hoary doesn't need a firewall ( no services are enabled to the internet)05:45
nevind3vice: does it gave any extra info, ther than the error number?05:45
fh<tritium> ok thx i will check it out05:45
elwoodsorush20, apt-get install qt05:45
tritiumchn, apt-cache search apache php05:46
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thoreauputicor to the network in fact...05:46
Demostrikeim gonna go now, thanks for the help :)05:46
jantan21hi all05:46
tritiumchn, you'll find what you need05:46
d3vicenevin, yes, it says it cant find /etc/webmin/webmin.acl05:46
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fh<tritium> going now, bye and thx for everything05:46
tritiumfh, take care, buddy05:46
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fh<tritium> u2!05:46
faenthoreauputic: I see, I would like to run ssh, and a small ircd and a few other little items, what is a good selection for debian/ubuntu firewall05:46
metawell my firefox doesn't even fail with an error now, just silently05:46
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Petrovhello05:46
sorush20elwood.. I get the package can't be found..05:47
jantan21fh : thx's, but my music not connec, why ?05:47
Petrovhow can ik install kde?05:47
chntritium, ive installed everything05:47
nevind3vice: I remember having that problem... try echo > /etc/webmin/webmin.acl05:47
elwoodsorush20, apt-cache search qt05:47
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metahey petrov05:47
thoreauputicfaen: firestarter is a nice gui for configuring iptables05:47
chni just dont get the lame conf files in debian05:47
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elwoodsorush20,  and check how is named05:47
IIIEarsfaen - Ubuntu uses iptables and is configured by default to pretty stealthy. see gibson research shields up! test - firestarter is a linux gui firewall that is really only necessary if you need to easily configure settings not already setup.05:47
chncould easily be simplified05:47
nevind3vice: there may be a few files missing from the pacakage... webmin should be installed from the tgz form the webmin site on ubuntu, the package is borked05:47
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faenIIIEars, thoreauputic hanks05:47
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jantan21fh: can u help me05:48
guizzzmohi05:48
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Petrovhow can i install kde? :p05:48
elwoodsorush20, done?05:48
JadeRobbinsapt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:48
nevinPetrov: sudo apt-get install kde05:48
chni have LoadModule php5_module        /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so05:48
chnin httpd.conf05:48
jantan21thx's for u all05:49
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Petrovi haven't got kde on my install cd05:49
faenIIIEars thoreauputic : I never was prompted to set up a su passwd and I am unable to su, any ideas?05:49
guizzzmoi have a problem with sk98lin, it is not working with a marvell yukon 88E8086 fast ethernet card05:49
chnand ive added the postfix extrention for .php05:49
thoreauputic!root05:49
ubotuwell, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:49
d3vicenevin, it worked, thank you very much =)05:49
chnin apache2.conf05:49
thoreauputicfaen: see ubotu's URL05:49
nevinfaen: just use sudo, ubuntu doesn't use su05:49
metais there a way of uninstalling firefox without taking ubuntu-desktop with it?05:49
faenk05:49
nevind3vice: no problem05:49
chnand the default site index05:49
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JadeRobbinsfaen: use sudo and by default it is your default user's password i believe05:49
chnbut the bitch wont work05:49
cs378daen: sudo -s05:50
faenwow, much different than mandriva etc..05:50
cs378daen: u can set su too, ubuntuguide.org shows it all05:50
faencs378: thanks05:50
JadeRobbinsokay05:50
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JadeRobbinsquestion fellas :D05:50
sorush20guys.. I keep getting these errors when I try to install KDAR...05:51
JadeRobbinsin the console how do i copy files to my usb drive? :x05:51
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elwoodsorush20, past me the errors05:51
cs378i just installed Ubuntu yesterday, I was reading this forum on how to install Opera. But it didnt work, so i uninstall it, the opera icon is still in the menu. how do i delete that icon?05:51
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guizzzmoany idea?05:52
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DekaPinkWhere are the includes in Ubuntu? ^^05:52
metaJadeRobbins - cp is the command so if you were in your home directory it would be "cp resume.doc /media/usbdisk/"05:52
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thoreauputic!smeg05:52
ubotusmeg is probably a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.05:52
JadeRobbinsahhh05:52
chnaha05:52
JadeRobbinsauto mounted i see L:D05:52
chndebian fucks up with php505:52
thoreauputiccs378: ues smeg as above05:53
DekaPinkAs they aren't where a script I'm trying to run thinks they should be (linuxincludes=/usr/src/linux/include) Is it something I need to install?05:53
thoreauputic*use05:53
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bugzIf I edit the xorg.conf file, I need to reboot for changes to take effect, right?05:53
metaJadeRobbins - well it should be automounted :P, if not there are a few more things to do, you probably have an icon on your desktop or in "places" too05:53
thoreauputicbugz: no, just restart the X server05:53
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bugzCtrl+Alt+Backspace?05:54
thoreauputicbugz: ctrl-alt-backspace05:54
samuelki need help installing a boot splash...05:54
thoreauputicyep05:54
bugzk05:54
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bugzAlso, I need to know how to install software on Ubuntu...05:54
thoreauputic!synaptic05:54
ubotu[synaptic]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto05:54
bugzI downloaded an RPM, and I have no idea how to install it05:54
guizzzmoanybody is using sk98lin module?05:54
thoreauputicbugz: synaptic as above05:54
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thoreauputicbugz: Ubuntu uses .deb , not rpm05:55
toad3030hello, i'm new to linux, and i was wondering how to set up my sound?05:55
samuelkyou can install rpm..05:55
bugzoh...05:55
bugzIf I get an RPM, I can still use it can't I05:55
thoreauputicsamuelk: yes but lets keep it simple :)05:55
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IIIEarsbugz - in a pinch alien will manage05:56
samuelkyes you can05:56
mjrbugz, you can try alien on it, but prefer debs05:56
Rockett17if you use alien to convert it05:56
windexbugz: "sometimes".05:56
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IIIEarsman alien05:56
bugz..Alright, how would I get into Alien then05:56
cs378the menu thing, whoever replied me, how do i do it? (sry got logged off, didnt see)05:56
thoreauputicbugz: what are you wanting to install ?05:56
bugzLimeWire05:56
thoreauputicah05:56
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cs378and what the Ctrl+Alt_Backspace do?05:57
samuelkrestart X05:57
metasamuelk - "sudo cp mysplash.png /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png"05:57
faenshould firestarter be on the add/remove programs listing ?05:57
samuelkthx meta05:57
faenerr aynaptic pckg manager?05:57
dr_willisctrl-alt-NUMPAD_Backspace kills X off :P05:57
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cs378ohh05:57
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dr_willisisent it?  oh wait.. im tininkg of the + and -05:58
dr_willis:P05:58
dr_willissince there is no numpad backspace..05:58
elshahttp://prodtn.cafepress.com/5/14580695_F_tn.jpg heh, oh dear05:58
thoreauputicfaen: you need the universe repository05:58
cs378thats why i got logged off lol05:58
thoreauputic!repos05:58
ubotuwell, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:58
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thoreauputicfaen: ^^^05:58
ernstpanyone found mkfontdir in breezy?05:58
bugzWait05:59
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bugzIn that synaptic thing, it says "select Computer>System Configuration>Synaptic Package Manager"05:59
bugz...Where's Computer at05:59
dr_willisbugz,  i normally just open a shell and type 'synaptic'06:00
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bugz?06:00
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dr_willis??06:00
bugzI forgot to mention, I know nothing about Ubuntu06:00
toad3030would anybody mind helping me set up my video card drivers????06:00
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bugzor Linux in general06:00
elwoodtoad3030,  tell my your card06:01
dr_willisthe menu item in question is under  System/Administration/06:01
dan_hi everybody)) I did it! Bye bye microsoft!! =)06:01
toad3030i have a nvidia fx 560006:01
metabugz - the menus up the top left, applications/places/system.... it's the system one, then go admin => synaptic06:01
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elwoodtoad3030, and go to nvidia.com and download driver06:01
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elwoodtoad3030, sell me your old card so!!!06:02
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toad3030haha, i didn't know they made drivers for linux, sorry, i'm a noob and linux, just got it yesterday06:02
KazrakHowdy.06:02
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toad3030this is my old card elwood lol06:02
Belutztritium: hai sir :)06:02
elwoodtoad3030, your are lucky06:03
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KazrakIs this an appropriate place to report a problem downloading Kubuntu?06:03
toad3030what linux drive should i use?06:03
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toad3030the IA32?06:04
Kazrakkubuntu-5.04-dvd-powerpc.iso06:04
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|rockinnerd|how does one make arts start at startup?06:04
GoekKazrak it's a fine place06:04
|rockinnerd|even when one runs gnome?06:04
cs378how do i remove a icon in the menu? help plzzz06:04
guizzzmothis is not workin at all, i have to move to centos06:04
elwoodtoad3030, depends on your system06:04
guizzzmobye06:04
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KazrakThe torrent download for kubuntu-5.04-dvd-powerpc.iso seems to stop after 72.1% complete for everyone I see on the peer list (including me).06:05
GoekKazrak,  but u could try #kubuntu06:05
toad3030just a amd athlon 280006:05
KazrakIt looks like there is no server with 100% available.06:05
bugzWhere is the "Computer menu"...06:05
|rockinnerd|bugz, rt-click panel,a dd to panel,06:05
|rockinnerd|one of the menus06:05
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RiddellKazrak: I know and I've tried poking the sysadmin06:06
elwoodtoad3030, https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards?highlight=%28nvidia-glx%2906:06
RiddellKazrak: could you report it on the ubuntu-devel mailing list?06:06
KazrakMore accurately, it looks like there was at some point, some downloader got 72.1% and then the completed server went offline and everyone else connecting now can only get the 72.1%.06:06
bugzMy menus are Applications, Places and System06:06
metakazrak - the last 30% is missing cause you aren't using the kittorrent, srry bad joke06:06
KazrakIs the ubuntu-devel mailing list open or closed?06:06
metabugs - yeah it's under system06:06
RiddellKazrak: open06:06
thoreauputicbugz: ah - the howto is out of date - look in system06:07
|rockinnerd|Kazrak, yes its open06:07
toad3030thank you elwood06:07
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elwoodtoad3030, nop i have an nvidia too06:07
KazrakOK.  I'll post to it and request CC.  Thanks.06:07
bugzNo it's not >_>06:07
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bugzNot under system06:07
|rockinnerd|how does one make artsd start at startup?06:07
metaKazrak - sorry one more... are you are KDE enthusiast who used to be called azrak?06:07
toad3030doesn't look like theres a 5600 though06:08
thoreauputicbugz: System/Administration/  I think for synaptic06:08
|rockinnerd|is it possible?06:08
RiddellKazrak: thanks06:09
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narimanhello everybody06:10
narimani need help06:10
samuelkany one know any good programing program for linux?06:10
KazrakI'm a KDE enthusiast, but I never went by "azrak".  :)06:10
toad3030think i got it elwood, thx again :)06:10
aukbugz: the menu bar-thingy used to be applications, computer. computer sort of got split into places and sysytem06:10
narimanis there a program that alows me to run winows in a window06:11
elwoodtoad3030, no problems...remember me when you  will change your card :)06:11
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dr_willissamuelk,  thats a little vague06:11
toad3030hehe06:11
toad3030anybody use cedega??06:11
aukand before that it had an "Actions" menu in there...06:11
dr_willistoad3030,  yes I do. :P06:11
thoreauputicsamuelk: anjuta is an IDE if that's what you want06:11
narimanis there a program that alows me to run winows in a window????06:11
toad3030is it pretty easy to install?06:11
toad3030i'm new to linux, just got it yesterday06:12
dr_willisnariman,  what do you want to 'run' exactly?06:12
narimana game (gta2)06:12
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bugzAlright, now can someone tell me how to install an RPM?06:12
dr_willisnariman,   then you want to look at 'cedega'06:12
bugzEr, I don't understand the alien thing06:12
samuelklooks good :D06:12
bugzeither06:12
aukbugz: alien <blah_blah.rpm>06:12
narimanwhats that? im a linux newbie06:12
dr_willisnariman,  and its not free. :P and it can run GTA2, but ive had issues with it.06:12
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nariman:(06:13
aukdpkg -i <blah_blah.deb>06:13
narimanbut, isn there a program that can run winows under linux?06:13
toad3030cedega is only $5/month right?06:13
dr_willishttp://www.transgaming.com/  - home of cedega - used to be called wines06:13
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dr_willisnariman,  running the whole windows OPERATING system - you can try vmware (not free) and a few other tools.. but doing that for ONE game - is overkill.06:13
samuelkcan you run games like warcraft 3 roc and counterstrike with the old wine?06:14
dr_willisWIneX became Cedega06:14
auknariman: there are several06:14
auk!vwware06:14
ubotuauk: I haven't a clue06:14
narimanhm.. maybe06:14
auk!vmware06:14
ubotuI don't know, auk06:14
aukuuggh06:14
dr_willissamuelk,  Ive heard that some can run with the normal wine.06:14
bugzauk: Were you talking to me with the dpkg thing?06:14
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bugzwait06:14
aukbugz: yes06:14
bugznevermind06:14
auk!wine06:14
ubotuauk: I don't know, could you explain it?06:14
auk!info wine06:14
narimanisn't there anyway to get it for free :)06:14
ubotuwine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB06:14
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jantan21hi...can u help me ?06:14
samuelki think i got warcraft 3 working06:14
samuelkbut i dont remember how :D06:14
jantan21hi all...can u help me ?06:14
bugzSo, I need to do alien path_to_rpm?06:15
aukjantan21: don't ask to ask, just ask06:15
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aukbugz: yes06:15
bugzAlright06:15
narimanubotu, whats wine?06:15
ubotunariman: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?06:15
bugzAnd that will turn it into a .deb?06:15
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narimanubotu, what is larger?06:15
ubotunariman: what are you talking about?06:15
aukor you can just do alien -i and skip dpgk, but i don't think it's as goo06:15
aukd06:15
bugzAlright.06:15
narimanhaha06:15
jantan21ok06:16
narimanubotu, does the windows emulator take much cpu in idle?06:16
ubotunariman: Are you smoking crack?06:16
thoreauputicnariman: please don't abuse the bot06:16
narimansorry, just a bit confused06:16
aukubot, what's package wine06:16
aukuboto, what's package wine06:16
jantan21how share windows for linux printer06:16
dr_willisubotu - is an infomation bot. and only understands a few commands.06:16
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, dr_willis06:16
dr_willislol06:17
aukstupid bot06:17
narimanhaha06:17
aukhe doesn't even know ubotu, what's <blah> ?06:17
narimanok, anyone. where can i find an windows emulator??06:17
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auknarimanL try wine06:17
dr_willisjantan21,  you mean let windows access a printer on a linux box?06:17
faenok guys what about win32 codecs for wmv, mp3, mpg, avi and all that what pckg am I looking for?06:18
dr_willisnariman,  depends on waht you want do, your choises are "wine" "Cedega" "vmware" or a few others.06:18
thoreauputic!restricted06:18
uboturestricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:18
bugzUh, auk, it tells me I have to run as root to convert to deb format06:18
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narimanok, i wnat to run gta206:18
nariman,and cedega is free06:18
aukbugz: 'sudo alien <blah_blah.rpm>06:18
auk* "06:18
auk* " = '06:18
bugzI tried...it didn't do anything after that06:18
dr_williscedega is not free. the CVS version is free.. but I dont think it will play all the games.06:18
bugzDidn't give me a message or anything06:19
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aukbugz: add sudo to the beginning06:19
auk!sudo06:19
ubotuI heard sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo06:19
bugzI did06:19
thoreauputicnariman: cedega is decidedly unfree06:19
bugzWhat should it do if it works?06:19
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aukbugz: did it just return to a new line?06:19
bugzyes, with nothing onit06:19
bugz*on it06:19
aukwell that's good06:19
narimanforgot to put "not"06:19
aukit worked06:19
bugzOh06:19
bugzWhere did it go then o-o06:20
narimanis wine ok then?06:20
jantan21dr_willis : how share printer windows to linux06:20
aukbugz: in that same dir, there shoudl be a fiel with the same name except for the extension06:20
auk*file06:20
tom__hi06:20
bugz..no, the RPM was on my desktop...and it's still the only thing there06:21
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faencan anyone point me in the proper direction to play all forms of media like using xine like .wmv, .avi, .mpg etc?06:21
depravegood morning!06:21
faenbasically the win codecs06:21
tom__me to06:21
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tom__were u get them06:21
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thoreauputicfaen: read the restricted formats URL below06:21
dr_willisjantan21,  You should be able to add a new printer with the linux tools In the menu. and tell it the server/name of the printer.06:21
thoreauputic!restricted06:21
uboturestricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:21
faenk06:21
dr_willisjantan21,  System/admin/Printing06:22
toad3030how do you get you cd player to work?06:22
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Goekhow long time does it take to rip a dvd? with drip? 2ghz, 512mbram? 60minutemovie06:23
DekaPinkYay, I did it... My video card is giving me 3D support now. xD06:23
Goekapprox.?06:23
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bugzIt worked now...06:24
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bugzAlright, it made a .deb file, what now?06:25
bugzto install it06:25
elwoodbugz, dpkg -i06:25
thoreauputicbugz: prepend sudo to that as well06:25
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thoreauputicsudo dpkg -i <file.deb>06:26
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bugzAlright, i did that06:28
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bugz...what now?06:28
Bubbling_Zombienow it's installed xD06:28
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thoreauputicumm.. doesn't limewire requirw java?06:29
bugzYeah, I know06:29
thoreauputic*require06:29
Deterministhm , anyone here that tried installing ATI drivers for a radeon 9600 pro?06:29
tommi^Hi. Where can I get maildir2mbox? Thanks06:29
thoreauputic!java06:29
ubotujava is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.06:29
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SeveasMez|AWAY, ping...06:30
bugzI know it's installed, but how do I get to the executable for it...06:30
thoreauputicbugz: won't work without java, methinks06:30
bugzDamn, another thing to install now..06:30
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bluefoxicythoreauputic:  want to see something hillarious?06:31
thoreauputicbugz: these things are all patent encumbered and can't legally be included in Ubuntu06:31
thoreauputicbluefoxicy: sure06:31
xxenonI installed g++3-4 , what shall I do to get a link from "g++" to "g++-3.4" ?06:31
bluefoxicythoreauputic:  check www.gotfuck.com (safe for work)06:31
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thoreauputicuh huh06:31
dr_willisDeterminist,  my ati9700pro worked fine06:31
bugz...06:32
Deterministdr_willis, ok , how did you install and what did you install?06:32
bluefoxicythoreauputic:  i'm slashdotting that XD06:32
elwooddr_willis,  do you buy that card?06:32
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Seveasxxenon, update-alternatives --config g++06:33
bugzWell, can someone help me with my screen resolution problem then?06:33
dr_willisDeterminist,  i.... followed the 3 commands at the ubuntu  binary driver howto/wiki   took all of.. 3 min perhaps.06:33
xxenonSeveas - thx.06:33
Seveasbluefoxicy, lol :)06:33
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Seveasnice page :)06:33
dr_williselwood,  I bought it some time ago.. yes.06:33
Deterministdr_willis, is that on the ubuntuforums? sorry for the questions, so far been trying to install from the official ATI site06:33
elwooddr_willis, can you sell me your old one?06:33
xxenonSeveas - No alternatives for g++06:33
bugzAlright, how do I edit xorg.conf to make it so I can use 1024x768?06:34
xxenon(only g++-3.4 is installed)06:34
dr_willisDeterminist,  in NO way - did i use the info at the ati site.. i followed the "binarydriver" wiki/howto.06:34
dr_williselwood,  since its in USE right now.. No.06:34
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bugzAnyone?06:34
Deterministdr_willis, erm , ok , thanks mate. would you mind posting a url for some info tho?06:34
Brian_Borumahi everyone06:35
elwooddr_willis, ok thanks :)06:35
Brian_Borumaits brian from ysterday06:35
Brian_Borumaand the day before06:35
dr_willisDeterminist,  :)  gesh man.. :P https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?highlight=%28binary%2906:35
bluefoxicySeveas:  what country you in?06:35
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Seveasbluefoxicy, NL06:35
thoreauputicbluefoxicy: just redirects to yahoo.com here06:35
bluefoxicySeveas:  I need to confirm from 3 countries that that hits yahoo06:35
Brian_Borumai really like this ubuntu06:35
Seveasthoreauputic, that's the trick :)06:35
the--dudI'd appreciate if people tried following this HOWTO http://nix-dev.dudcore.net/HOWTO/InstallingLincityng06:35
bluefoxicyI got canada, US, and NL?06:35
Seveasbluefoxicy, confirmed06:35
Brian_Borumathe more i use it the more i like it06:35
the--dudtell me if its good/bad or how it works for you06:36
jantan21dr_willis jantan21,  System/admin/Printing <<< i can't06:36
Brian_Borumaim am learning new things it seems every minute06:36
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bluefoxicyok :)06:36
jantan21Printing: Network host '192.168.1.8' is busy; will retry in 30 seconds... <<<warning06:36
thoreauputicSeveas: hrm - OK I don't really see the humour but whatever...06:36
dr_willisjantan21, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP?highlight=%28printing%2906:36
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xxenonSeveas ?06:37
dr_willisperhaps. :P i now make windoiws use the printers shared on the linux box.06:37
bluefoxicythoreauputic:  'sex' is the #1 search term eveer06:38
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drbombay43yellow to all, is there anyone out there using a powerbook06:38
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witlesshi - i'm setting up 5.04 on my system, but the networking is *incredibly* slow.  20, 30 secs to show a web page or load an imap store...  anyone aware of a problem like this?  i have debian-sid installed on the same box and i have no such problems...06:39
Hawkeyewitless: disable ipv6 networking06:39
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witlessHawkeye: thanks, how?06:39
Hawkeyeyour ISP probably doesn't have an ipv6 enabled DNS server, so your applications will first have to timeout on the ipv6 dns request06:39
Hawkeyethrough /etc/modules.conf06:40
witlessHawkeye: actually i set up my own caching dns server - would an option be to enable ipv6 networking on that box?06:40
bugzCan anyone tell me how to edit xorg.conf so I can be able to use 1024x768 resolution?06:40
hondje!tell bugz about resolution06:40
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Seveasbugz, copy an existing line with a resolutionn and edit the new one to say 1024x76806:41
virtuelSeveas, I've tried that for a different resolution (1400x1050), but it still doesn't show up06:41
Deterministummm , how come i dont have /proc/pci?06:41
Hawkeyewitless: perhaps, as long as the caching dns server forwards the request as ipv4 to your isp's dns server(s)06:41
Hawkeyeput alias net-pf-10 off and alias ipv6 off in /etc/modules.conf06:41
dr_willisBACKUP your existing xorg.conf file befor ya mess with it. :P06:42
Seveasvirtuel, you need to restart X for the line to show up06:42
Hawkeyevirtuel: is that on a centrino laptop ? You'll have to run a hack to let the bios enable the 1400x1050 modeline06:42
Brian_Borumahow do i install a .run file06:43
Brian_Borumai downloaded privateer06:43
echelonbb.06:43
dr_willissh whatever.run06:43
virtuelSeveas, have restarted X, doesn't help06:43
Brian_Borumafrom root term?06:43
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virtuelHawkeye, nope, this is on a desktop computer, athlon xp and an Eizo F520 display06:44
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virtuelHawkeye, I'm already running the same resolution in Win2k06:44
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Brian_Borumaok the sh comman + the file .run doesnt work06:46
Hawkeyechmod 744 myfile.run06:47
Hawkeye./myfile.run06:47
Belutz!wifi06:47
ubotuwifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto06:47
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IIIEars!ndis06:48
ubotuIIIEars: I don't know06:48
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Guest29Hi, I really need some help folks06:48
IIIEars!ndiswrapper06:48
ubotuhmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper06:48
NekoNekohey all06:48
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Guest29I have burned the Ubuntu disc twice06:48
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Guest29And each time I try and install... half way thru the base system I get...06:48
Brian_Borumawhy?06:48
Guest29No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources06:48
Guest29The current default kernel package is 'kernel-image'06:49
dr_willisbecause they tend to be comercial junk :P and rarely seem to work well.06:49
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Guest29What is wrong with it?06:49
NekoNeko2 questions for the channel and I missed the answers in the faq I apologize  1)  How do I get java on mozilla? the forum stuff isn't working 2) whats the average turn around time from a new version of a program being made to it being on the package list?06:49
thoreauputicGuest29: check the md5sum of your iso and burned CD06:49
Guest29thoreauputic I burned this thing twice06:49
Guest29with 2 different programs06:49
thoreauputicGuest29: sounds like a bad download or burn06:49
Guest29on 2 different OS's06:49
Guest29and DOWNLOADED twice as well06:49
HawkeyeNekoNeko: 2) 6 months06:50
virtuelGuest29, does http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3444 help you?06:50
SeveasGuest29, check the md5sum of the iso and the burnt cd06:50
thoreauputicGuest29: *cough* md5sum *cough*06:50
Guest29I do not think this is a bad CD06:50
SeveasGuest29, and 'kernel-image' does not exist in Ubuntu06:50
IIIEarsthoreauputic, - always diplomatic. :)06:50
Guest29Not when it is downloaded twice, burned twice, using 2 different programs and 2 different OS's06:50
aukhmm, i would like to know what the average package turn around is too :)06:50
NekoNekoHawkeye any way to manually add the packages to the list then?06:50
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SeveasGuest29, so you must have done something *really weird*06:51
Guest29Seveas thats the error I get06:51
aukHawkeye: lol06:51
thoreauputicGuest29: have you read the advice several people have given yoU?06:51
Guest29I am looking at the link06:51
IIIEarsGuext, - X86 machine yes?06:51
Guest29Yeah06:51
Guest29No raid06:51
HawkeyeNekoNeko: through third party repositories, but that's generally a pain in the ass. Ubuntu isn't designed to be on the bleeding edge for all packages throughout a certain release's lifetime06:51
Brian_Borumai wan to run privateer linux but it is a .run06:51
Brian_Borumai am puzzled06:51
Guest2915.5 gig EXT3 partition, with 1gig swap06:52
Brian_Borumai tried googling06:52
Hawkeyeif you want a new firefox, gaim or whatever the day after it is released upstream, you shouldn't be running ubuntu, period06:52
NekoNekobah that sucks06:52
Brian_Borumaim not being lazy06:52
NekoNekogoing to have to find a different distro then06:52
Hawkeyedebian sid, rawhide or gentoo will be something for you then06:52
Brian_Borumaprivateer is wing commander game06:52
aukNekoNeko: ubutu updates packages for security etc, but it doesn' tjust take them fform upstream, they are ubuntu builds06:52
Guest29OK....06:53
HawkeyeBrian_Boruma: chmod it to 744, and then run it in a console "./myfile.run"06:53
Guest29The forum is saying this is a known bug06:53
hondjecan someone run 'apt-cache show bmp-skins | grep Section' and let me know what it says?06:53
Guest29So is there a solution to this bug?06:53
toad3030what file for cedega is best for ubuntu???06:53
NekoNekohawkeye gentoo isn't worth running anymore, been using it for 2 years and for the past 4 months nothing but problems06:53
IIIEarsbelieve auk. - that is often a very good thing that ubuntu devs give them the once over06:53
jantan21/etc/cups/cupsd.conf <<<why ?06:53
Hawkeyethat's generally what happens when you run on the bleeding edge. That's why some people prefer a stable system that stays the same and is supported for 1.5 years like ubuntu06:53
Guest29So far I am not too impressed with this distro06:54
jantan21/etc/cups/cupsd.conf <<<why not acces ?06:54
Guest29The fucker is buggy06:54
Brian_Borumacan i ask what chmod it to 744 means?06:54
djpwhy do people find the necessity to chase version numbers? surely a stable os is the name of the game? anyway, if you really feel the need to have the 'latest' version of everything, just download the source and compile yourself...06:54
Brian_Borumalol06:54
NekoNekoyeah but I can't exactlly play games with other people of I havn't patched for 1.5 years ;)06:54
aukIIIEars: yes, bu ti think they shoudl add in more than just security updates, i like new features as well06:54
HawkeyeGuest29: don't blame your crappy southbridge/cdrom combo on ubuntu06:54
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Guest29My what!?06:54
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Hawkeyeit's clearly a problem with the driver of your southbridge and or cdrom drive, most likely DMA related06:55
Guest29My CD-rom setup is not unusual06:55
Brian_Borumawhat is it meaning?06:55
Brian_Borumachmod it to 744?06:55
Guest29Look... I CAN install ANY other OS except for Ubuntu06:55
HawkeyeI'd suggest setting the cdrom as the master on the secondary IDE channel, and not attaching anything else on it06:55
HawkeyeBrian_Boruma: man chmod06:55
IIIEarsauk - 2 releases a year. - two weeks ago a buggy firefox release was fixed in a few days. Quick!06:55
NekoNekoguest feel free to then06:55
Guest29I am on crummy LINDOWS right now trying to speak to you and get answers06:55
hondjeThen file a bug report06:55
Guest29Hawkeye, why!?06:56
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aukBrian_Boruma: chmod cahnges permissions, i am not sure exactly what 744 does06:56
Guest29This should not be an issue06:56
Hawkeyethe 7 means you'll give Read Write and eXecute access to the binary for the owner of the file. (4 is read, 2 is write and 1 is execute, add them together: 7)06:56
djpGuest29: i had the same problem as you, although in reverse. i just stuck with the distro that best works for me. that happened to be Ubuntu.06:56
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dr_willissounds like the iso file may be bad.06:56
jantan21bash: /etc/cups/cupsd.conf: Permission denied <<<can u help me06:56
aukIIIEars: yes, i was VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY upset about the firefox bug06:56
Landyjantan21, are you root?06:57
aukbut i do liek how quickly they fixed it--but that was also from upstream, was it not?06:57
aukthe ubuntu devs didn't fix it06:57
NekoNekoat least on the good side for ubuntu, my mom who has never touched linux before was able to install it without my help ^^06:57
HawkeyeGuest29: in general, installers are very picky about cdrom drives. For example, I've seen installations fail, simply because the proper ordering of devices on the IDE cable hadn't been maintained (master on the outmost connector, slave on the middle one)06:57
aukNekoNeko: wow!06:57
NekoNekoauk, considering how little she knows and can't even install windows without help, I almost died from shock06:58
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dr_willis"My Mom is l33ter then Your Mom!"06:58
djpNekoNeko: such an easy distro to install. so quick as well. but again, hardware issues are different for each individual06:58
LandyUbuntu is very cool, easily the best desktop distro I have used06:58
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NekoNekoyeah only issue is it didn't detect the wifi cards06:58
djpsame here Landy06:58
NekoNekobut I've always had problems with any distro and wifi06:58
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jantan21yes06:59
faenI have to say that ubuntu is sort of a tough transition from mandrake/mandriva06:59
dr_willisWifi is the next incarnation of the WinModem Fiasco of the past. :(06:59
jantan21landy : yes06:59
Landyonly issue I have is that it crashed today whilst installing epiphany, a quick reboot and a dpkg --configure -a sorted that though06:59
jantan21landy : yes, i am root06:59
NekoNekofaen, please don't compare anything to mandrake06:59
hondjeIt'd be easier if people would stop buying hardware that isn't supported06:59
NekoNekoonly redhat is that bad06:59
Landyjantan21,  and its ubuntu yes?07:00
Hawkeyedr_willis: nah, most cards are much better supported these days than winmodems ever were or will be07:00
NekoNekohondje the problem is how can you TELL (average USER here) what hardware is supported?07:00
dr_willisI dont even have a modem any more :P07:00
faenNekoNeko: I have used mandrake for quite some time and I guess I am just use to the look/feel of it07:00
IIIEarshondje - what wifi card is best for ubuntu?07:00
NekoNekomy users don't want to look up drivers for their stuff07:00
NekoNekohence why they make me do it ._.07:00
jantan21landy : yes, it's ubuntu why ?07:00
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Mez|AWAYsomeone wanted me ?07:00
hondjeI know the problem won't go away, but it'd be easier07:00
NekoNekofaen, I tried mandrake and it did nothing but crash, redhat the same, fedora is a bit more stable07:00
Landyjantan21, because if I told you to do service cups restart it won't work07:00
hondjeIIIEars: I've neverh ad problem with intel and cisco cards07:01
faenafter a fresh install of Ubuntu I felt sort of naked and not in control of my box, with mandrake I feel like I have everything under control right out of the gate07:01
NekoNekoyou can always get orinco cards07:01
faenhowever, i'm only 2 hours into ubuntu07:01
IIIEarshondje - thanks. :)07:01
NekoNekothe universal wifi cards07:01
phixionNekoNeko, you can't really compare like that :P I had no problem running either of them07:01
faenso i'll give it a bit of time07:01
NekoNekocompatible with anything :D07:01
Landymy distro life cycle went from, Slackware->SuSE->Mandrake->Fedora Core->Debian->Ubuntu07:01
hondjeI'm way biased though07:01
jantan21where it's service cups restar07:02
HawkeyeIIIEars: cards with realtek chips (cheap dlink wireless cards) work to some extent too07:02
hondjeI havent' used windows in 5+ years, so all my hardware is compatable07:02
NekoNekophixion I tried it on 3 of my machines, I watched a classroom of 28 students try redhat and mandrake with a failure rate of about 80%07:02
IIIEarsNice to know :)07:02
thoreauputicfaen: I came to Ubuntu via Mandrake, Knoppix and Debian - once you "get" it you won't feel that way any more07:02
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jantan21and how service cups restar07:02
NekoNekoI eventually handed the teacher a knoppix cd so he could teach his class07:02
Landyjantan21, service cups restart is a command to restart the cups service, its red hat based though so don't waste your time. Ok, question 1, what are you trying to do07:02
toad3030can anybody tell me what cedega file is best for ubuntu pls???07:02
agentm_Hi- I am running hoary and I ran apt-get update but I can't install specific packages like libsdl-ttf1.2. Am I forgetting something?07:02
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hondjetoad3030: the debian one works fine07:02
windexNekoNeko: to be fair, most fresh college students prolly can't handle installing windows. :)07:02
toad3030thank you07:03
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dbernar1hi07:03
Landyagentm_, so an apt-cache search <package name>07:03
NekoNekowindex, they were doing it right I was talking with the teach while he was doing class, about 10 machines just plain crashed on install07:03
dr_willissudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart07:03
faenthoreauputic: it would be nice got get a grasp on things as I need to get my servers up & running again shortly07:03
jantan21i don't command for service cups restar07:03
faengot = to07:03
NekoNekoactually kind of funny to see would be linux users cry after their 2 hours install dies >_>07:03
Randall64I swear my 2005fpw was evading my input selection.07:04
Landydr_willis, don't give it all away just yet ;)07:04
agentm_Landy: no hits though the apt search on the ubuntu website says that it is available07:04
windexNekoNeko: ahh. make them use ubuntu then. it installed on my duron box with no questions except locale stuff and enter a username to log in with.07:04
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windexNekoNeko: :)07:04
IIIEars< RH 5.0, RH 7.2, Slack, Fedora, Knoppix, then ubuntu. - only ubuntu has lasted for any length of time.07:04
thoreauputicfaen: I suggest " sudo apt-get apt-howto" unless you are familiar with apt already07:04
jantan21* Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                         [ ok ]  <<<07:04
NekoNeko<3 my durons07:04
dr_williscut and pasted straight from the Printing Howto/Wikis :P07:04
hondjeCollege students are stupid :)07:04
NekoNekogreat servers :D07:04
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thoreauputicfaen: oops sudo apt-get install07:04
Landyoh yeah, forgot about Knoppix, that was first07:04
NekoNekoI use knoppix std07:04
faenthoreauputic: i used apt every-so-often with mandrake 10.01 & greater07:05
jantan21what next07:05
thoreauputicfaen: OK :)07:05
windexNekoNeko: the box i have running ubuntu, used an old 20gb disk from another box, but otherwise cost $220. it's a 1.6ghz duron with 512mb of ram. :P07:05
agentm_Landy: most other packages install fine...any ideas?07:05
Landyjantan21, what are you trying to do?07:05
faenI went back to urpmi tho07:05
faenjust out of habit07:05
faenI guess07:05
NekoNekolets see... redhat -> mandrake -> redhat -> debian -> suse -> openbsd -> gentoo -> freebsd -> knoppix std -> gentoo07:05
thoreauputicfaen: IMO dpkg and apt are the keys to Ubuntu/Debian07:05
NekoNekomy linux cycle ^^07:05
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Landyagentm_, the only thing I can think is that the package you want is in another set of packages. Maybe you need more sources in your apt repositories, not sure07:06
IIIEarswindex - had to laugh when UT99 played better on 1.5ghz 384 ram than 2.7 760 ram with windows installed.07:06
NekoNekogetting bf to install linux also and he's a windows user07:06
Landyurpmi was cool07:06
faenI love urpmi07:06
faenit's quick for me07:06
NekoNekowe will not be under the yoke of oppresion that this microsoft propganda machine has created forever! mwhahahaha07:06
faenbut i've been using rpm based distros since I started07:07
windexif you've ever administered more than 50 unix machines, apt/aptitude is the way to go. i used to be able to upgrade every machine in our office by scheduling a 5:30 to 7am outage window and usually being done way before 6:30.07:07
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LandyNekoNeko, did you move to Linux because the Penguin is cute? :op Only joking, its just amazing how many girl users there are. HAng on, are you a girl?07:07
Deterministany simple way to make xmms play mp3 files?07:07
NekoNekoyes I am07:07
NekoNekoand tux is cute ;)07:07
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the--dudthe only operative systems I've had for any great lenght on workstations are slackware, debian, freebsd and ubuntu07:07
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windexmy wife isin't leet enough to use linux.07:07
Randall64That reminds me: I want to see March of the Penguins.07:07
IIIEarswindex - Best distributed disk image application?07:07
LandyDeterminist, there is a way for fedora by adding another apt repository (or maybe yum) and then installing xmms from there. One second07:08
Randall64My wife is a trained computer professional, which means she doesn't touch a computer at home.07:08
the--dudmy sister used linux for a short while, but she wanted games sigh07:08
tech is there any cool games you can recommend me to apt-get? :)07:08
NekoNekoslackware lasted 5 seconds with me before I formated it...07:08
thoreauputicDeterminist: set the ouyput plugin to esound07:08
jasoncohenRandall64, i saw it in princeton. it was quite good07:08
faenI decided to check ubuntu out after reading about it a few places, otherwise I prolly would have just gone to some sort of BSD07:08
dr_willisMP3: Due to licensing restrictions, MP3 support couldn't be included by default in Ubuntu. To enable MP3 support you need to install gstreamer0.8-mad which is included in the Universe repository.07:08
hondjeI bought my ex a mac because I got tired of having to run apt-get for her07:08
faennet or free, i'm guessing07:08
hondjea couple years of that and it was worth paying Jobs07:08
DeterministLandy, for feora it's yum install xmms-mp3 , but i'm using ubuntu right now :P07:08
Deterministthoreauputic, thanks07:08
dr_willisthats from -->  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia?highlight=%28multimedia%2907:08
LandyDeterminist, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/11409407:08
techthe--dud, my sister used linux because she wanted games.. she likes the kde games :)07:08
IIIEarsG4U looks interesting - sadly it? BSD. a little intimidating. a lot of new commands to learn07:08
NekoNekodr_willis gstreamer-mad installed by default on mine >_>07:08
the--dudhehe, those kde games are neat ;)07:08
dr_willisNekoNeko,  good for you.. heres a cookie. :P07:09
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hondjeIIIEars: If linux doesn't cause you headache, BSD won't either07:09
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NekoNekoyay cookies :D07:09
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the--dudalthough I myself prefer the bsdgames myself hehe07:09
dr_willisThat reminds me.. i need to go get some Groceries.07:09
elph0hi all07:09
the--dudnice cli games <307:09
hondjethe--dud: atc rocks07:09
NekoNekobsd is a bit harder to get used to off the bat then linux07:09
Randall64"than"07:09
the--dudwell, I use freebsd on all my enterprise servers07:09
NekoNekoshush :P07:09
elph0someone here have this hardware running: Texas07:09
elph0Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller ?07:09
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windexIIIEars: we had a iscsi gfs array and a debian recovery CD w/ gfs support. mount GFS, chroot, format disks, copy directories over and preserve attributes, tweak fstab on new disks to mount the application-specific iscsi gfs partition, install grub, done.07:09
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Hawkeyebsd is easy once you install a proper shell and understand how to install ports07:10
NekoNekoubuntu was a bit hard for me off that bat cuase I was trying to find root....07:10
NekoNekodidn't read the manual ^^07:10
MarcN_For some reason I not longer have a background image until I manually start nautilus.  What got screwed up?07:10
the--dudfreebsd just feel wonderfully right for any servers imho07:10
the--dudsecure, fast and most important logical07:10
Landyif anyone is talking to me and I've not replied and they are waiting, pm me as I've lost track now :S07:10
hondjeMarcN_: gnome 'should' start nautilus for the desktop, so dunno how you turned that off :)07:10
jantan21i can't Network Printing From WinXP07:10
NekoNekobsd == no compile time07:10
hondje*BSD is dying07:10
NekoNekoI so wish mosix was 2.6 compatible :(07:10
MarcN_hondje: well, it wasn't intentionally.07:11
IIIEarsthe--dud - the process "jail"is interesting. - grin07:11
Hawkeyebut bsd is such a niche for the desktop. There's no compelling reason whatsoever to run *bsd over a linux based distro the way I see it07:11
Landyjantan21, how do you know its a cups issue and not samba?07:11
Hawkeyemostly due to the lack of updated drivers for hardware07:11
NekoNekohondje, most data centers give you a choice between, redhat, bsd or windows07:11
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NekoNekoso why would you NOT choose bsd07:11
dabaRMarcN_: what are you missing?07:11
jantan21i don't know07:11
hondjeBecause I prefer debian07:11
windexHawkeye: freebsd supported using my fasttrak100 as a hardware raid device out of the box. no linux distro i've used does.07:11
NekoNekolol07:11
LandyHawkeye, haven't I seen you in the Mandrake irc channel or maybe even #lfd?07:11
IIIEarshondje - possibly still there is gnu/bsd debian apps on an BSD kernel.07:11
Hawkeyewhy NOT ? For starters, it doesn't support agpgart on my nforce2 for example07:12
hondjeYeah, but not worth it to me07:12
NekoNekolinux for desktop/server bsd for server windows for laughs at human futility and mac for sexy box07:12
hondjeI'm lazy, that's why I run ubuntu07:12
MarcN_dabaR: looks like nautilus didn't start on login.  If I manually start it (either by nautilus or click to open a folder), no background image.07:12
HawkeyeLandy: doubtful, the last Mandrake I ever installed was the good old mandrake 7.007:12
hondjedebian for the webserver because I trust it more...apt-get and forget07:12
dabaRyou want the background image and your icons?07:12
jantan21/etc/cups/cupsd.conf <<why not access ?07:12
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faenHawkeye: that's what I started on07:12
Landysure I've seen you around, which forums do you frequent Hawkeye07:12
windexNekoNeko: ubuntu reminds me a lot of os x in the way it behaves. not that it's a bad thing. i just wish i knew how to configure natulus (spelling?) to not close the parent window, cos thats annoying. sometimes.07:12
NekoNekobut isn't debian package system out of date all the time?07:12
dabaRyes|no07:13
HawkeyeI do not frequent any english speaking forums on linux distributions07:13
jantan21pleace help me07:13
IIIEarsFor a home based server run any OS you like.. - so long as it is run from RAM and a live CD. - lol07:13
dabaRjantan21: tried sudo07:13
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dabaR?07:13
Hawkeyeso really, you must be mistaking me for someone else07:13
Razor-Xwindex: that's because Ubuntu is a Linux distro, therefore UNIX Deviant, OS X is BSD based, therefore UNIX based ;)07:13
LandyHawkeye, must be someone else then, kill all with your nick :v07:13
hondjewindex: yo uwant the parent to stay open?07:13
NekoNekowindex, I can't say much for ubuntu atm since I only used it for an hour yesterday trying to get java on mozilla07:13
Razor-XNekoNeko: Debian potato is out of date... Debian sarge isn't07:13
IIIEarsRazor-X - (high fives!)07:14
windexRazor-X: i am aware of that, i am talking about the way its setup to deal with superuser tasks and the layout of the desktop.07:14
NekoNekodifference?07:14
elph0someone could help me?07:14
dabaRMarcN_: are you saying your nautilus opens with no desktop image or icons?07:14
Razor-XNekoNeko: one is supposedly safer than the other07:14
NekoNekolast time I used dabian was a long time ago07:14
hondjewindex: run this in a terminal: "gconftool-2 --type bool --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/no_ubuntu_spatial true"07:14
NekoNekoand we only had one package system and it sucked07:14
Razor-Xof course, you _will_ be safer using 4 year old packages07:14
jantan21bash: tried: command not found07:14
NekoNekodon't need safer07:14
jasoncohenNekoNeko, that's easy- all you have to do is sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 from hoary-extras or make your own deb with java-package07:14
Landyjantan21, do the following ls -l /etc/cups/ and paste the output in a private message to me or in #flood07:14
jantan21bash: tried: command not found <<<warning07:14
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Razor-XNekoNeko: Potato has been available probably almost as long as i've been alive07:14
NekoNekoneed cutting edge for my games07:14
windexhondje: ill break that eventually.07:14
NekoNekojasoncohen that failed07:14
jasoncohenNekoNeko, what did?07:15
faenhmm, coming from fluxbox into gnome is quite starling too, how do you update menus in gnome?07:15
windexRazor-X: hahahaha.07:15
hondjewindex: just cut and paste it, and it won't change back to closing the parent until you want it to07:15
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NekoNekothe sudo one07:15
MarcN_dabaR: I believed that nautilus is started when you log in.  When I log in the background is black.  If I start nautilus, the background appears.07:15
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jasoncohenNekoNeko, well, did you ever add the hoary-extras source?07:15
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NekoNekodon't think so07:15
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Amaranthfaen: They're supposed to update automagically. In reality, most of the time this doesn't work and you need to log out and back in or kill gnome-panel.07:15
jasoncohenso of course it's going to fail07:15
NekoNekowas a base install with bells and whistles07:15
HappyFoolRazor-X: I installed ERC 5 -- scrolltobottom mode works perfectly07:15
emrys_Hi there07:15
MarcN_dabaR: so I think nautilus is not starting properly.07:15
dabaRMarcN_: when yuo login, are there icons on the desktop.07:15
jasoncohenNekoNeko, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories07:15
Hawkeyeextract the jre from sun's java site to /opt, and place a symlink to the .so file in the plugin directory from mozilla's plugin directory. Presto07:15
faenahh, k thanks Amaranth07:15
refuze2loosei have an iso file which i mounted, and there's a program that tries to access the cdrom drive and i want it to use the mounted iso file. how can i do this?07:15
jasoncohenNekoNeko, follow the instructions there and then sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.507:16
IIIEarsfaen - google amaranth's "smeg"simple menu editor for gnome.07:16
MarcN_dabaR: I forget.  Gimme a sec and I'll relogin.07:16
NekoNekobah let me go grab that laptop07:16
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dabaRok07:16
dabaRsecond sounds reasonable07:16
NekoNekocrappy 200mhz laptop at that lol07:16
emrys_Can I make a question about evince?07:16
hondje!smeg07:16
ubotuI heard smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.07:16
faenrgr07:16
AmaranthIIIEars: haha07:16
dabaR;[07:16
AmaranthIIIEars: I guess I misunderstood him.07:16
windexRazor-X: actually using really old packages could .. maybe .. be less secure. it might be more stable and predictable (e.g. firefox always crashed X on potato for me when i had more than 3 tabs open and launched a java app), but it's also had several times as much effort into finding bugs in its codebase.07:16
MarcN_dabaR: back.  Nothing except chocolate color on the background.07:17
IIIEarsAmaranth - ?? - SMEG is great.07:17
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MarcN_dabaR: and no nautilus process07:17
dabaRMarcN_: lets try this then, Apps>SystemTools>ConfEditor...07:17
Razor-Xback07:18
MarcN_dabaR: yes..07:18
jantan21bash: flood: command not found07:18
Razor-XHappyFool: ahhh, it's a repos thingie?07:18
emrys_There is some way to print only Odd/Even pages with Evince???07:18
Razor-Xso, now the input bar stays at the bottom?07:18
dabaRMarcN_: apps>nautilus07:18
dabaRPrefs07:18
dabaRHows your show desktop?07:18
HappyFoolRazor-X: nah, from their site (sf.net, i think). put it in ~/.emacs.d/erc, and added that to my load-path07:19
MarcN_dabaR: what should I look for in prefs?07:19
Razor-XHappyFool: exactly, so the repos erc was bad?07:19
HappyFoolRazor-X: err07:19
dabaR^07:19
MarcN_ah, show desktop is checked.07:19
HappyFoolRazor-X: old, not bad07:19
MarcN_dabaR:  ah, show desktop is checked.07:19
Razor-Xerrr, old07:19
Razor-Xyeah07:19
Razor-XHappyFool: i'm trying out zsh now07:19
HappyFoolwhat's that?07:19
Razor-XHappyFool: can you package erc and submit it to the maintainers?07:19
Hawkeyea powerful shell07:19
Razor-Xit's an alternate shell07:20
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Razor-Xit's supposed to be powerful07:20
nightswimzsh is nice07:20
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Hawkeyethe problem is that it doesn't support utf-8 well last time I tried07:20
Razor-Xyet, a more apt name is ``The Lazy Man's shell''07:20
Landyjantan21, in this irc session type /join #flood07:20
Razor-Xmy Term doesen't support UTF-8 ;)07:20
refuze2loosehow can i make a program trying to access my cdrom drive access a mounted iso file instead? it doesn't allow me to choose cdrom dir07:20
Hawkeyeyou can mimmick most of zsh's behavior through the bash-completion package though07:20
Razor-XHawkeye: it can do arrays?07:20
Hawkeyebash ? Sure07:20
Razor-Xhmmm, never knew that07:21
Razor-Xit can't do command editing, AFIAK07:21
IIIEarsrefuze2loose, cloop command?07:21
jantan21why join flood?07:21
Razor-XHawkeye: and on utf-8, I believe screen fixes that07:21
Hawkeyeno, that vi command editing is nice07:21
IIIEars!pastebin07:21
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood07:21
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refuze2looseIIIEars, you mean mount ..... -o loop ? that's what i did07:21
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IIIEarsrefuze2loose, - Ah - thats it.07:22
yonilanyone experienced with patching the kernel ?07:22
HawkeyeRazor-X: hmm, that might be, never tried it. I don't run UTF-8 regardless though, it's just a pain in the ass with older programs07:22
Deterministhow do i restart xorg?07:22
refuze2looseIIIEars, yeah that's what i did from the beginning but it didn't work.. i think it's probably trying to access my cdrom drive through /dev/hdc?07:22
emrys_How can I print only Odd/Even pages with Evince? It seems that the Gnome PFD readers don't have this option... ??07:23
thoreauputicDeterminist: ctrl-alt-backspace07:23
Hawkeyehah07:23
yonilI've patched the kernel, got a new vmlinuz-2.6.10 file, but i dont know how do i get an initrd file .. anyone ?07:23
Randall64yonil: I use kernel-package to do it ...07:23
HappyFoolyonil: does the kernel howto not cover this?07:23
Razor-Xalso, zsh's subshell behavior is awesome07:24
elph0Someone know what module i can use for Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller ?07:24
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Razor-Xlike I said before, even if you use emacs, screen underneath is a godsend07:24
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IIIEarsmkdir /mnt/test && mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/test ?07:24
MarcN_dabaR: Hmm.  I started nautilus, then logged out making sure to 'save settings' and now nautilus starts on login.  Does gnome cache something? I usually finish using the laptop by pressing the off button (which causes a shutdown now)07:24
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sorush20what does fi stand for..07:25
dr_willisends an IF clause07:25
dr_willisif -> fi07:25
Deterministwhat's backports?07:25
yonilHappyFool, which kernel howto ?07:25
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HappyFool!kernelhowto07:25
ubotuwell, kernelhowto is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto07:25
HappyFoolyonil: that one ;)07:25
IIIEarserm "/media/test - sheesh. - a nap sounds awfully good right now.07:25
yonil:P07:25
dabaRno idea07:25
dabaRgood work.07:26
robertowhere is mkfontdir in breezy ?07:26
IIIEarsG'nite! :)07:26
Randall64It is about nap-thirty.07:26
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tuliohello. if I have installed LILO, how can I do to use dual boot to start WinXP?07:27
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sorush20guys I keep getting this error when I try to install KDAR07:27
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sorush20I've pasted it into flood... can someone help please... it happenes when I mak efile..07:27
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yonilHappyFool, bhaa I haven't done anything like what's described in that tutorial ...07:28
HappyFoolsorush20: i'll take a look, if you paste it again07:29
jasoncohenNekoNeko, did you get java installed?07:29
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elph0netsplit?07:29
sorush20tanks happyfool... your always in here helping people....07:30
NekoNekojasoncohen not yet07:30
NekoNekoI keep using the wrong keyboard lol07:30
sorush20Three chears for happyfool...07:30
sorush20hip hip.. horay...07:30
sorush20hip hip.. horay...07:30
sorush20hip hip.. horay...07:30
HappyFoolsorush20: scariesh error07:30
HappyFooloh, i'm blushing :P07:30
jantan21hallow can u help me07:30
procrastinatorhi guys07:31
sorush20happy fool.. what was the problem...07:31
NekoNekoit's the whole thing where you copy and paste and relize your mouse doesn't move from one machine to the other >_>07:31
sorush20happyfool.. what do you mean scariesh error.07:31
procrastinatorIs it possible to configure beep mp to use esd? (without esddsp)07:31
HappyFoolsorush20: i mean i haven't seen an error like that before07:31
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sorush20happy fool... should IM you all the errors..07:32
PrimoTurbo_Does anyone know how I can get the cd player to work?07:32
emrys_Someone can help me please?07:32
PrimoTurbo_I can play ogg files but I can't seem to play cds07:32
HappyFoolsorush20: 1 possibility is that you're missing a library; another is that the program is buggy07:32
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HappyFoolsorush20: what's the kdar homepage? where'd you get the source?07:33
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PrimoTurbo_I also tried Totem and it give me an error when I try playing a cd07:34
PrimoTurbo_Totem could not play 'cdda://'.07:34
PrimoTurbo_Could not open resource for writing.07:34
sorush20Happyfool, but I don't know how to obtain the library... the only way is by installing the  here is the home pagehttp://kdar.sourceforge.net/...07:34
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PrimoTurbo_Any idea why?07:34
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jantan21NetworkPrintingFromWinXP <<< help me07:35
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HappyFoolsorush20: have you installed libdar-dev ?07:35
jasoncohenNekoNeko, got it working i see?07:35
PrimoTurbo_I have 2 cd drives and it doesn't for any of them, but I can rip the music into ogg to listen to it07:35
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NekoNekoso far07:35
NekoNeko^^07:35
black13what does the xorg error (EE) Failed to load module "bitmap" (module does not exist, 0) mean ?07:36
NekoNekolast time it just died on me when I tried without that sources.list change07:36
needlzhi can anyone tell me where i can get jpeglib.h? im trying to install enlightenment on ubuntu 5.0407:36
NekoNekocan I use the built in gui now to get the same package list?07:36
HappyFoolneedlz: probably the libjpeg62-dev package07:37
Randall64needlz: apt-get installl apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search jpeglib.h07:37
PrimoTurbo_Does anyone else ever had cd player problems, not being able to play audio cds07:37
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needlzHappyFool: i got the libjpeg6 package...di you think i should try the dev version?07:37
HappyFoolneedlz: yeah, header files and build libraries are almost always in -dev packages07:38
sorush20happyfool, yes I have... I have version.. 2.5.1 and I'm just going to reinstall it..07:38
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sorush20happyfool, should I run the make again..07:38
HappyFoolsorush20: you mean 2.1.5 ?07:38
needlzok thank you very much HappyFool07:38
HappyFoolsorush20: ah07:38
witlessi've commented out the ipv6 line in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases, renamed ipv6.ko, run update-modules, rebooted - and networking is still ridiculously slow... any suggestions?07:38
testinghello my friends07:38
HappyFoolsorush20: you need libdar 3.0.007:39
sorush20what.. where does it say that...07:39
HappyFoolsorush20: so if you want this to work, you'll need to install libdar from source07:39
HappyFoolsorush20: bit of a pain07:39
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HappyFoolsorush20: on the kdar doc page -- stand by07:39
testingdoes anybody know what C compiler i should use with Ubuntu ?07:39
HappyFoolsorush20: http://kdar.sourceforge.net/kdar-html-docs/requirements.html07:39
HappyFooltesting: gcc07:39
HappyFooltesting: installed the 'build-essential' package07:39
testingok, thank you07:40
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testingi used gcc with fedora before and it worked fine07:40
PrimoTurbo_test07:40
PrimoTurboforgot I had another one open07:40
thechitowncubssHow can I repair my ext3 filesystem? It failed on the automatic check.07:40
HappyFoolPrimoTurbo: mine cd player worked without fiddling07:41
HappyFoolPrimoTurbo: how are you trying to play the cds ?07:41
PrimoTurboputting them into the drive07:42
PrimoTurbothen opening cd player and trying to play it07:42
PrimoTurboi tried switching cd drives also doesn't work07:42
HappyFoolyou have two drives?07:42
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PrimoTurboyeah07:43
PrimoTurboI tried both07:43
PrimoTurboand tried switching the settings07:43
PrimoTurbobecause u need to do it if u want to use the second one07:43
highvoltagequick #ubuntu poll: what's a nice, light x-terminal emulator?07:43
nightswimaterm07:43
MarcNhighvoltage: xterm?07:43
Landyanyone know how to get the ubuntu kernel source using apt?07:43
nightswimaterm is lighter07:43
thechitowncubss!ext307:44
ubotuNo idea, thechitowncubss07:44
HappyFoolLandy: maybe the kernel howto will tell you07:44
HappyFool!kernelhowto07:44
ubotukernelhowto is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto07:44
Landymaybe it will07:44
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aukhehe, stupid bot07:44
Landycheers07:44
testinganybody know how can i make the background of my teminal transparent in ubuntu ?07:44
auk!fs07:44
ubotuauk: No idea07:44
highvoltageMarcN: can I copy and paste from xterm to firefox?07:44
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HappyFoolPrimoTurbo: hmm. is either drive directly connected to the sound card?07:44
hondjetesting: right click, edit current profile07:44
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MarcNhighvoltage: xterm is the granddaddy of all terminal emulators.07:44
testingok07:44
testingthank you hondje07:45
hondjeyou're welcome07:45
MarcN(and xterm has the look-n-feel to prove it)07:45
PrimoTurboYeah they both are connected07:45
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PrimoTurbothey work in windows and other linux07:45
HappyFoolPrimoTurbo: i'm not helluva sure how cd player handles two cd-drives07:45
highvoltageMarcN: yes, i'm using xterm at the moment, but i cant copy and paste from it, so i want something that has a bit more features.07:45
PrimoTurboI know they are setup fine because I don't have problem with the cd player on other linux distros and on windows07:46
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PrimoTurboi'll try a retail cd just to be sure07:46
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PrimoTurbocause I've tried 3 burnt ones so far07:46
testingthank you everybody07:46
HappyFoolPrimoTurbo: ok, have you tried clicking on the little 'toolbox' icon in cd player, and chaning the device setting there?07:46
PrimoTurboyes I have07:46
kevin_Can someone help me fix my wireless mouse ?:o)07:46
kevin_its got a mind of its own in ubuntu!:D07:47
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HappyFoolPrimoTurbo: ok, what happens when you press play?07:47
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MarcNhighvoltage: select something, then use MB-2 to paste it.07:47
PrimoTurbonothing happens07:47
jantan21help pleace ?07:47
jantan21:(07:47
black13what does the xorg error (EE) Failed to load module "bitmap" (module does not exist, 0) mean ?07:47
PrimoTurbonothing moves it just goes from pause button to play button again07:47
admin_hi07:47
PrimoTurbono error or anything07:47
jantan21any body help me07:47
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kevin_jantan21, with ?:D07:47
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HappyFoolPrimoTurbo: hmm, so it's not a sound volume thing07:47
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tuliohello. I have installed lilo, but I want to use grub, How can I use it? It is because I nedd dual boot. Thanks07:48
mebaranhey07:48
mebarancould anyone help me with an alsa problem07:48
jantan21NetworkPrintingFromWinXP ??07:48
mebaranmy alsa modules are loaded07:48
black13grub makes a better dual boot07:48
PrimoTurboyeah it's not07:48
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jantan21kevin : NetworkPrintingFromWinXP ??07:48
mebaranbut they dont make the /dev/dsp07:48
HappyFoolPrimoTurbo: i'm running out of ideas. you can maybe look in /var/log/dmesg to see if the kernel is complaining about something, but i'm guessing it's something at a higher level07:48
kevin_dunno Jantan21 not got a xp box running :s07:48
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kevin_try google ?:)07:49
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mebaranwhat can I do07:49
sophtpawdoes anyone know if one can run ubuntu directly on the new mac mini?07:49
mebaranamixer complains of an invalid card number07:49
Randall64mebaran: even the alsa oss modules are loaded?07:49
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mebaranRandall64, yep07:50
DekaPinkDaaaamn it. Now 3D works, but I can't open video files. --;07:50
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Randall64alsa continues to suck07:50
birratixhi07:50
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mebaransnd_pcm_oss is loaded07:50
PrimoTurboKsCD plays the cd but I have no sound and Tottem gives me an error07:50
jantan21dunno Jantan21 not got a xp box running :s <<< what u mind ?07:50
PrimoTurbosomeone is suggesting to try gstreamer07:50
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mebaranI think I am going to move to gentoo ... argh07:50
tuliohow can i configure lilio to use dual boot?07:51
Randall64ugh, lilo07:51
Kamzitulio: don't you have grub installed ?07:51
HappyFooltulio: isn't there an /etc/lilo.conf ?07:51
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binky'lilio'?07:51
HappyFooltulio: maybe 'man lilo' or 'man lilo.conf' will tell you more07:51
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Randall64Also, use grub.07:51
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kevin_Can someone help me fix my wireless mouse ?:o)07:52
Kamzibinky: lilo stand for linuc loader it is what loads your operating system07:52
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postmodernwhere can i find all the updates for Hoary alone07:52
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Butterfly.geeknode.org07:52
Kamziuse synatic07:52
binkyi know, i just liked the way it was mis-spelt!!!07:53
DekaPinkmplayer doesn't love me anymore.07:53
wdhKamzi, having problems typing?07:53
wdh:P07:53
HappyFoolpostmodern: do you want to install the updates, or do something else?07:53
Kamziwdh: don't know what you could possibly mean :-)07:53
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binkylol07:54
postmodernHappyFool, I want to burn them onto a cdrom07:54
nelsongscan somebody please help me?07:54
PrimoTurbohow do I install gstreamer from terminal07:54
nelsongsi  just installed ubuntu on my hp laptop07:54
kevin_apt-get install blah ?:/07:54
nelsongsdv400007:54
Randall64Primo: man apt-get07:54
PrimoTurbok07:54
nelsongsbut there's no display07:54
kevin_apt-get install gstreamer07:55
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PrimoTurbok thnx07:55
Randall64nelsongs: no console either?07:55
PrimoTurboI need sudo too right?07:55
nelsongsthere's a console07:55
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nelsongscoz i could hear the drums07:55
Kamziprimo: yeah07:55
Randall64nelsongs: login and look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors07:55
HappyFoolPrimoTurbo: i imagine some parts of gstreamer are already installed -- e.g., it's needed by 'music player'07:55
znhcan someone confirm this cron deamon as a working one:      29 20 * * * init 007:55
cs378ahhhh07:55
kevin_Can any one help me with my wireless mouse >:D07:55
cs378what kind of compile i need to install in order to install build essential07:56
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HappyFoolznh: should run 'init 0' at 20h29 every day07:56
binkyreconnect the wires....sorry could not resist!!!07:56
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Belutzhow do see webpages that don't support firefox ??07:56
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znhHappyFool: the minutes start from 007:57
gcolpartI have this error when I use totem-gstreamer : "GStreamer-ERROR **: file gsturi.c: line 427 (search_by_entry): assertion failed: (protocols)"07:57
toad3030can someone pls help me install cedega?07:57
Randall64Belutz: Install the user agent extension to fool the stupid sites.07:57
znhHappyFool: but are cron's done  by a root user?07:57
gcolpartIt crashes totem...07:57
BelutzRandall64: ok...07:57
HappyFoolznh: only root's, afaik07:57
gcolpartAny idea ? :)07:57
HappyFoolznh: not following that 'minutes start from zero' comment07:57
nelsongsRandall1164: what specific error should i look into?07:58
zerboxxI want to perminantly do "hdparm -d1 /dev/hda" how do I go about doing this?07:58
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znhHappyFool: well you say should run 'init 0' at 20h29 every day, should be 19h30 - because the numbers are in a range of 0-29 for the minutes, and 0-23 for the hours07:58
Randall64nelsongs: You'll really have to look at all of them for clues.07:58
PrimoTurbowell gstream is not a package?07:58
MrGardenHoseManwhat's the nero like burning program called07:59
PrimoTurbogstreamer*07:59
HappyFoolznh: 0 to 59 for minutes, says my copy of 'man 5 crontab'07:59
MrGardenHoseMankeep forgetting07:59
MrGardenHoseMank**07:59
HappyFoolznh: and minutes are naturally 0 to 59 ;)07:59
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znhHappyFool: oh doh, yea - xD07:59
nelsongsRandall1164: my laptop has 915 chipset07:59
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znhHappyFool: I didn't smoke, really.. :-P07:59
binkymaybe you should!!!08:00
znhi did five minutes ago ;-)08:00
zerboxxBelutz: Did you get it? (user agent switcher)08:00
binkylol....need another one!!!08:00
HappyFoolPrimoTurbo: gstreamer is a library, not really an app08:00
znhHappyFool: to be seriouse again, then it should be 29 19  * * * /sbin/init 0 right?08:00
PrimoTurboI know it's not an app08:01
witlessi've commented out the ipv6 line in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases, renamed ipv6.ko, run update-modules, rebooted - and networking is still ridiculously slow... any suggestions?08:01
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DekaPinkRawr.08:01
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PrimoTurboI know HappyFool08:01
DekaPinktotem and mplayer have stopped working. :308:01
znhDekaPink: VLC is the answer!08:01
MrGardenHoseManvlc > *08:01
Belutzzerboxx: yup... just installed it... but still can use the webpages... i think they created using some scripts that only supports IE08:01
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znhMrGardenHoseMan: :-)08:02
zerboxxah08:02
Kamzidekapink: what do you mean stopped working ?08:02
HappyFoolznh: will run at 19h29 -- i don't know what 'init 0' does08:02
nelsongsRandall1164: ??08:02
Belutzzerboxx: any other solution?08:02
HappyFoolznh: you can test by putting in something like 'ls' there -- it will mail you the output of the command08:02
znhHappyFool: it's like shutting down :-D08:02
DekaPinkKamzi: Well, totem says it can't start up because a resource is busy or unavailable, and mplayer freezes when I try to open things with it.08:02
zerboxxBelutz: No, that's the only one I know of08:02
HappyFoolznh: isn't that telinit? same thing?08:02
holycowBelutz how do see webpages that don't support firefox ??  <-- that should actually say 'how do you read webpages that don't support web standards'08:02
holycow:)08:02
Belutzzerboxx: or i MUST switch to my lousy windows?08:03
MrGardenHoseManznh: yeah, totem and mplayer both are just missing something08:03
znhHappyFool: didn't knew that exist.. this is #ubuntu right :-/ ?08:03
zerboxxBelutz: *shudder* it may appear as such08:03
tulioit seems lilo detected windows, but it doesnt allow me to choose which OS boot08:03
HappyFoolznh: yip08:03
HappyFoolznh: telinit is just another name for init, afaik08:03
Belutzholycow: well the webpages told me i MUST use IE, and i can't use IE in linux08:03
DekaPinkIt happened after I did http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495 and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=206829&postcount=8708:03
HappyFoolznh: see 'man telinit'08:03
KamziDekaPink: i: well being the n00b i am i can only suggest updating everything , and reporting the error on bug zilla and maybe trying realplayer08:03
Belutzdamn webpages!!08:04
sorush20happyfool.. now I'm trying to install DAR so that I can get the libdar 3.0.0, but I'm trying to compile and install DAR 2.2.2, and now I keep getting this error when I do make.. and help?08:04
HappyFoolsorush20: wouldn't you need dar 3.0.0, not 2.2.2 ?08:04
Brian_Borumaok i just installed wing commander privateer08:04
znhHappyFool: oh yes, init is the same08:04
Brian_Borumait hink08:04
HappyFoolsorush20: also, uninstall the ubuntu version first08:05
PrimoTurboI got gstreamer0.8-plugins but it doesn't help08:05
Brian_Borumawhere did it install to08:05
Brian_Borumait was a .run file08:05
PrimoTurbothe cd player tells me which cd I have and the songs but it doesn't play them08:05
Brian_Borumaused the sh whatever.run08:05
znhsorush20: you can use the tab button instead of typing the whole name, it's really worth trying ;-)08:05
djpBelutz: complain to the administrator of the web site. isn't there a way with firefox to make it appear to be an ie browser when you visit a site?08:05
znhdjp: you mean by changing the user agent?08:05
nelsongshelp anyone?08:06
djpznh: yes. that's it.08:06
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sorush20l;kjf08:06
znhdjp: there's a cute extension for it, you might want to check that one08:06
nelsongscouldn't see anything when i installed ubuntu on my laptop08:06
djpBelutz: check out znh's comments08:06
elph0happy day to all sysadms here :) www.sysadminday.com08:06
znhnelsongs: define anything08:06
djpcheers znh08:06
Belutzdjp: ok08:07
znhdjp: no problem ;-)08:07
DekaPinkHow do I make VLC my default media player? xD08:07
nelsongsznh:  i have an hp dv4000 notebook08:07
znhDekaPink: default of what?08:07
Belutzhmmm another problem08:07
sorush20znh, what do you mean tab button... and happy fool.. when reading th einstructions on KDAR , it says that libdar 3.0.0 can be derived from the installation of Dar 2.2.2, which is what I'm trying to do and its going wrong...08:07
nelsongsznh:  intel 915GMhipset08:07
Randall64Belutz: What did you make your User Agent string?08:07
DekaPinkznh: Uh... media files? :P08:07
znhnelsongs: hm.. when did you see nothing? after you installed ?08:07
HappyFoolsorush20: ok08:07
nelsongsznh:  i can't see anything08:07
Belutzwhen i use terminal server client in fullscreen, how do i switch between the remote comp and local comp?08:07
HappyFoolsorush20: have you uninstalled the ubuntu version of dar?08:07
nelsongsznh:  though i can hear the drums08:07
znhDekaPink: well in nautilus you can set a default player for e.g. mpg files08:07
znhnelsongs: could you see the installation process?08:08
sorush20happyfool, I'll do that now..08:08
nelsongsznh: yes.  and it went well08:08
BelutzRandall64: i just select the IE 6 in the option08:08
znhnelsongs: ok, then I fully understand, I think the default resolution is too high for your laptop screen08:08
BelutzRandall64: actually i could read the website, but can't click anything... because the script only supports IE?08:08
znhnelsongs: can you boot up your laptop, so we might be able to fix it?08:09
nelsongsyes08:09
Randall64Belutz: sounds likely08:09
nelsongsznh:  actually, i'm using the console08:09
znhnelsongs: ah you found the console, nice nice nice08:09
nelsongsznh:  well, not in this irc08:09
BelutzRandall64: ic...08:09
nelsongsznh:  but beside me.  heheh08:09
znhnelsongs: Ok, lets open the X.org configuration - it's located in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf - you can open it by typing nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf - If you didn't knew already08:10
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zerboxxSome help please: I want to perminantly do "hdparm -d1 /dev/hda" how do I go about doing this?08:10
Belutzso? how do i switch between remote comp and local comp in terminal server client when using fulscreen option?08:10
postmodernso where can i download all the Ubuntu updates for Hoary?08:10
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nelsongsznh:  okay, i opened it08:10
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HappyFoolzerboxx: you can edit /etc/hdparm.conf08:11
znhnelsongs: good, press ctrl+w08:11
HappyFoolzerboxx: take a look at that file and see if you can figure it out08:11
zerboxxHappyFool: When I look in there, it's already set up, but everything has a # beside it, so should I remove it?08:11
znhnelsongs: typ: modes, and hit enter - repeat this twice08:11
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tucozHi, I can't start my laptop in with acpi. It crashes on boot. The isssue started after a update with synaptic.08:11
HappyFoolzerboxx: the '#' at the beginning means that the line is a comment, i.e., is ignored08:11
kemikpostmodern:  add the hoary repoistories in your sources.list and do "apt-get update" "apt-get dist-upgrade"08:11
zerboxxHappyFool: So should I remove all the #'s around anything to do with /dev/hda?08:12
nelsongsznh: okay, what's next?08:12
HappyFoolpostmodern: the easiest way it to use the update tools provided with ubuntu (e.g., apt-get) -- this assumes the computer running hoary is connected to the net08:12
tucozI thought that maybe a kernel upgrade could work. What do you think?08:12
HappyFoolzerboxx: i'm not sure08:12
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zerboxxHappyFool: :D08:12
znhnelsongs: have you got your cursor near Modes now?08:12
HappyFoolzerboxx: stand by08:12
jasoncohenwhy does nmap show ports that are not being used (not being used and blocked by external router) as filtered? nmap localhost on the local machine doesn't show the ports at all. i only see it from outside08:12
zerboxxsure thing08:12
nelsongsznh:  yeah08:13
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nelsongsznh: section screen, right?08:13
znhnelsongs: wee, alright do you know some laptop screen specifications of yours?08:13
levanderAnybody has gotten any bugs fixed by posting to launchpad?08:13
HappyFoolzerboxx: towards the ends is a line '/dev/hda {'08:13
nelsongsznh:  it's a widescreen 15.4"08:13
HappyFoolzerboxx: then some mult_sect_io and write_cache stuff08:13
zerboxxHappyFool: *nodnod* should I remove the #s beside that and all the things under that?08:13
postmodernkemik, HappyFool I want to download them on my non-ubuntu system and burn them to a cdrom08:13
HappyFoolzerboxx: and then 'dma = on'08:13
znhnelsongs: Ok, so the maximum resolution should be 1024x786 or 800x600 right?08:14
cs378how do i know which source to install? the 2.6.10 or 2.6.11?08:14
HappyFoolzerboxx: more or less08:14
cs378linux source08:14
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nelsongsznh:  hp brightview.  well, when windows was installed here, it was just a plug and play monitor08:14
PrimoTurbowell guess what08:14
HappyFoolzerboxx: i'd leave the mult_sect_io and write_cache stuff commented out08:14
PrimoTurboworks perfect under gnome08:14
PrimoTurbostupid kde08:14
tucozcs378: uname -r08:14
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znhnelsongs: same here, just a resolution ;)08:14
postmodernHappyFool, kemik how would i do this, do you have the url for the repository of Hoary08:14
HappyFoolzerboxx: uncomment the '/dev/hda' '{', 'dma = on' and '}' lines08:14
nelsongsznh:  oh okay  :D08:14
sorush20Now I keep getting these errors..08:14
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tuliosomebody can helpme with a dual boot?08:14
cs378tucoz: so waever version i got,install that version?08:14
HappyFoolpostmodern: http://archive.ubuntu.com08:15
znhnelsongs: in that section screen, what is the default Dept?08:15
tucozcs378: makes sence.08:15
HappyFoolpostmodern: however, it is not very easy to do what you want08:15
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nelsongsznh:  2408:15
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HappyFoolpostmodern: and if your machine isn't connected to the net, maybe security updates aren't all the important anyway08:15
zerboxxHappyFool: Ok, thanks for your help.  I'll test it out now08:15
seteromalguien habla espaol?08:15
znhnelsongs: change that to 1608:15
cs378tucoz: duh, then ill have to uninstall linux-source-2.6.11, thx08:15
nelsongsznh:  okay, next?08:15
tucozhehe, np08:15
DekaPinkVLC works... Guess I'll use it. :308:16
HappyFoolsorush20: would you mind pasting the errors to a pastebin (not #flood) ?08:16
tulioI donnt want to damage ubuntu partition, but I need to fix the mbr, because i have to boot windows....please some body helpme08:16
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znhnelsongs: go down with your cursor to SubSection "Display", where Dept 16 is located08:16
cs378tucoz: or can i just leave linux-source-2.6.11 n install linux-source-2.6.1008:16
HappyFoolsorush20: e.g.,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:16
cs378leave it there08:16
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nelsongsznh:  okay08:16
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PrimoTurboHow can I uninstall Kubuntu and all the files it installed?08:17
znhnelsongs: now, replace that Modes line with this mode line: Modes<tab>"640x480" "800x600"08:17
tucozcs378, I think that it doesn't matter08:17
sorush20happyfool, I've put the new error into the pastebin... have a look please..08:17
cs378tucoz: oh ok, thx08:18
Brian_Borumaok so where does this .run file install to08:18
Randall64Primo: Delete the partitions.08:18
sorush20happyfool its only part of the error..08:18
Brian_Borumaor how can i verify that it did install08:18
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nelsongsznh:  just two modes?   so i have to delete the 1024x768 mode?08:18
znhnelsongs: just two modes, if there are more working we can always add more ;-)08:19
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nelsongsznh: oh i see, so the highest resolution would be 800x600 if it works?08:19
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znhnelsongs: yes indeed08:19
nelsongsznh:  okay, so what's next?08:19
Brian_Borumai am installing privateer remake1.008:19
Brian_Borumait is running through an install phase08:20
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znhnelsongs: exit the editor by pressing ctrl+x, don't forget to save it08:20
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Brian_Borumawell it is uncompressing right now08:20
Brian_Borumabunch of little dots in a window08:20
nelsongsznh:  okay, so, what's next?  reboot?08:20
Brian_Borumait hink its just a progress indicator08:20
znhnelsongs: No!!08:20
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tucozhmm, how can I tell at what resolution I am running at? I just want to confirm the xorg-settings08:20
znhnelsongs: in linux you never would have to reboot  :D08:20
bob2xdpyinfo08:20
bob2xrandr08:20
nelsongsznh:  okay, hehe.  don't worry, i'm still waiting for you08:21
nelsongseheh08:21
bob2X logs08:21
bob2xvidtune08:21
znhnelsongs: are you logged in as a normal user?08:21
postmodernHappyFool, so where in there is only the Hoary files08:21
nelsongsznh:  yeah, but used sudo to edit xorg.conf08:21
HappyFoolsorush20: stand by08:21
znhnelsongs: okay, great - start the graphical X server we just edited with 'startx'08:21
Randall64no libc6 in the official backports :(08:21
bob2er08:22
sorush20Happyfool, thanks...08:22
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bob2why on earth would you want a backported libc6?08:22
Randall64Has anyone ever been able to upgrade to breezy?08:22
nelsongsznh:  but it has been started.  i just used the ctrl-alt-f key to use the console08:22
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Randall64bob2: amd64 bug is fixed in 2.3.5008:22
Randall64s/.$//08:22
bob2upgrading to breezy is fine, except X doesn't start08:22
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HappyFoolsorush20: that looks like a successful build to me08:22
znhnelsongs: so.. it already worked :-08:23
Randall64upgrading failed yesterday on (strangely enough) libc6.08:23
techafter i unstalled nvidia-glx ubuntu package, and installed the binary nvidia.com driver, xorg doesnt start.. i get skipping libfb.a:fbmmx.o no symbols found..08:23
zerboxxHappyFool: It worked perfectly, thanks again08:23
HappyFoolzerboxx: no problem08:23
bob2tech: what was wrong with the ubuntu drivers?08:23
nelsongsznh:  forgot, how do i exit from this console?08:23
znhnelsongs: press the following buttons ctrl+alt+backspace08:24
sorush20Happyfool... really... so should I just make install... now08:24
Brian_Borumait say error while loading shared object file no such file exists press return to close window08:24
Brian_Borumaanyone ever seen this?08:24
HappyFoolpostmodern: if you *really* want the package list, you can start here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz208:24
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HappyFoolpostmodern: also 'restricted' where 'main' is there08:24
HappyFoolpostmodern: however, you'll need to be a moderate apt-guru to figure all that out08:24
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techbob2: it is an old version, in the newer ones nvidia has fixed many crappy bugs :) my problem is that my Xorg was locking up and taking 100% cpu.. tried to upgrade to the latest08:25
HappyFoolsorush20: yeah, go for it08:25
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HappyFoolsorush20: there's something called 'checkinstall' you might find useful for this08:25
nelsongsznh:  startx error, couldn't start because there's one running already08:25
HappyFoolsorush20: will let you uninstall relatively easily, i believe08:25
thechitowncubssMy computer just completely locked up, no CTRL+ALT+BKSP or CTRL+F2, nothing worked, what do you guys do in those situations?08:25
sorush20okay.. thanks..08:25
znhnelsongs: shutdown the current one by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace08:25
techthechitowncubss: you ssh to the machine and killall -9 Xorg, if you cant do taht you need to hard reboot08:25
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sorush20Happyfool, are just practicing you skills... here..08:26
HappyFoolthechitowncubss: sometimes one can ssh into the machine -- not sure if this applies in your case08:26
Razor-XHappyFool: you should really try zsh08:26
wrathhello08:26
mrsonalguien q me ayude08:26
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Razor-Xmrson: #ubuntu-es08:26
thechitowncubssya, usually i just restart it but everytime it happens it pisses me off and i just hit the restart button :)08:26
McScruffHow Do you run .jar files08:26
Randall64java -jar foo.jar08:26
Brian_Borumaok my turn08:26
Razor-XMcScruff: with the program ``java''08:26
Brian_Borumait say error while loading shared object file no such file exists press return to close window08:26
Brian_Borumaok my turn08:26
Brian_Borumaanyone ever seen this?08:27
Razor-X``my turn''?08:27
Brian_Borumai get that during mid uncompression of .run file08:27
Razor-XBrian_Boruma: probably the object file it's looking for doesen't exist08:27
nelsongsznh:  didn't work08:27
znhnelsongs: what happend after you pressed the buttons?08:27
techbob2: do you know why i get this no symbols error?08:28
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Brian_Borumawell it went through its "verifying integrity" phase08:28
Razor-XBrian_Boruma: what is the script of?08:28
Brian_Borumait completed, then during uncompression said that08:28
Razor-Xhmmm, so far, I have 207,835 lines of logs of this channel08:28
nelsongsznh: nothing, displays the console for 1 sec, then no display08:28
Brian_Borumaits privateer wingcommader remake 1.0 :/08:28
wrathhi, i have a Dell dimension xps gen 3, and i'm trying to get the ubuntu live cd to load up at boot but it keeps hanging during the process. any clues as to what this may be??08:28
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Brian_Boruma:)08:28
nelsongsznh:  same as before we started08:28
Brian_Borumadoesnt anyone play games here??!!!08:29
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Brian_Borumadamn08:29
dr_williswrath,  may want to try the 'noapci' and 'noapic' options08:29
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tulioplease, some body can tell me how can I install grub?08:29
dr_willisBrian_Boruma,  we are too busy helping people. :P08:29
wrathdr willis, i did08:30
Razor-XBrian_Boruma: not sure why, you can try filing a bug08:30
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nelsongsznh:  still the same  :(08:30
Randall64bob2: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1173008:30
Razor-XI play games every so often, only when my mind numbs with helping/shell scripting/programming08:30
Brian_Borumaok08:30
wrathexcept i typed it in after it was hung up08:30
Razor-Xor, I want to play ToS, but taht's not a computer game ;)08:30
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Razor-Xs/taht/that/08:30
Brian_Borumathank you08:30
dr_williswrath,  give the kernel boot options 'noapci' and/or 'noapic' in the grub boot menus.08:31
wrathk, i'm very new, but i'll take a look08:31
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Razor-Xdr_willis: what are the differences between the two, by the way?08:31
Razor-Xare apci and apic different protocls?08:31
Razor-Xs/protocls/protocols/08:31
dr_williswrath, boot up, hit "e" at the boot menu. add on the end 'noapci'08:32
znhnelsongs: what do you see then? you can see a terminal you just said :-/08:32
dr_willisof the 'kernel=line'08:32
husherso is anybody here running breezy yet?08:32
jantan21can u help me ?08:32
wrathok08:32
wrathty08:32
Razor-Xhusher: breezy help doesen't belong on this channel08:32
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dr_willisi have to do this on my new laptop08:32
nelsongsznh:  yup  just the terminal for about a sec, then blank08:32
nelsongsznh:  then heard the drums again08:32
DekaPink<3 Ubuntu... Woot.08:32
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thechitowncubssyipee08:32
thechitowncubssI just tried Windows VIsta Beta 1 and it sucked08:32
husherRazor-X: i'm just curious how stable it is yet, i'm not running it08:33
wrathtrying that, brb08:33
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Razor-Xthechitowncubss: well, Longtime's always sucked, you think Vista will chane anything?08:33
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Razor-Xhusher: very unstable08:33
znhnelsongs: oh.. I wish I could help you further, but I have to go now :-( - Hope someone else can help you further08:33
Razor-Xevery so often, something breaks08:33
znhg2g channel08:33
Razor-Xso if you're lucky enough to enter in a lull when everything's fine08:33
thechitowncubssI just realized officialy that i will probably be staying with ubuntu for the long haul.08:33
DekaPinkI don't know if I'll ever use Vista.08:33
Razor-Xthen, don't update for a while08:33
Randall64XP x64 is pretty crappy too08:33
nelsongshelp anyone?08:34
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Razor-XI agree with Leo Laporte, I think the time has come for M$ to redesign their OS from the ground up08:34
nelsongsRandall64:  what should i do?08:34
Razor-Xjust like Mac did before OS X08:34
nelsongsRandall64:  can you help me?08:34
Randall64It's time for M$ to adopt linux and port their crappy applications.08:34
nelsongsRandall64:  please?08:34
Randall64nelsongs: pray08:35
dr_willisMS could just buy the BeOS :P08:35
Razor-XRandall64: that'll never happen08:35
Razor-Xdr_willis: haha!08:35
Razor-Xthat would be a good mixture, though08:35
Razor-Xbuilding Windows on top of the BeOS framework08:35
nelsongsRandall64:  no, seriously?  is intel 915gm still not supported by ubuntu?08:35
Rockett17yeah beos is a good os.. just dead and lacking in hardware/application support08:35
Razor-Xmmmm, the FMA Greatest Hits CD is the best ;)08:35
Randall64nelsongs: no idea08:35
dr_willisTheres the ZETA variation of BeOS thats out now I hear.08:36
Razor-XRockett17: it's not dead, actually08:36
nelsongsRandall64:  thanks anyway08:36
Razor-Xbut, hardware support kicks ass on old hardware08:36
nelsongsanyone, help me please?08:36
Razor-Xcompared to more recent incantations of Linux and Windows08:36
Razor-Xnelsongs: what's the problem?08:36
Brian_Borumaim getting all updates through sudo commands08:36
nelsongsi have an hp laptop, dv4000, intel 915gm chipset08:36
Brian_Borumahopefully that helps08:36
Razor-XBrian_Boruma: doubt it, but you can try08:36
Rockett17yeah I know there is Zeta... but for new hardware it's pretty much useless08:36
nelsongswhen i finished installing everything, there was no display08:36
nelsongsthough i can hear the drums08:36
Randall64I'll settle for M$ getting out of operating systems when cheap Intel macs become available.08:37
Razor-Xnelsongs: does i go into a Terminal Window?08:37
Razor-XRandall64: that'll never happen either08:37
Razor-Xthey're money leeches08:37
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nelsongsRazor-X  yes08:37
Randall64Razor-X: They might not have any choice ;)08:37
Razor-Xthey'll stick as close to their money as they can08:37
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nelsongsRazor-X:  i can go to the terminal window08:37
Razor-XRandall64: they'll finally redesign their OS08:37
dr_willis"Cheap" intel Macs - HA! ha! ha!08:37
dr_willis:P08:37
holycowwell they have a good thing going, a tax on almost every system sold is a good place to be08:37
Razor-Xnelsongs: that's a problem? ;)08:37
Razor-Xjust kidding, I know how most can't survive there, meh08:37
Razor-Xwhat's the graphics card?08:38
nelsongsRazor-X:  graphics card is intel 915GM08:38
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Razor-Xmost people here don't reccomend it, but if X.Org refuses to work because of drivers, you can always try XVesa or Xframebuffer ;)08:38
Razor-Xnelsongs: hmmm ok08:38
black13Razor-X would you know what the xorg error (EE) Failed to load module "bitmap" (module does not exist, 0) would mean ?08:38
faenHmm anyone have any ideas why I can not hear sound in java applets using the latest firefox/java/fresh install?08:39
dr_willisnelsongs,  this a laptop?08:39
nelsongsRazor-X:  any ideas?  yup, an hp dv4000 laptop08:39
Razor-Xblack13: I can only gather from that the bitmap moule is missing, or such08:39
Razor-Xnelsongs: i'm googling now08:39
thechitowncubssfaen: try killing esd before starting them08:39
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Razor-Xblack13: try a google search08:39
dr_willisnelsongs,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingUbuntuOnADellLatitudeX1?highlight=%28intel%29%7C%28915GM%2908:39
faenok thechitowncubss08:39
dr_willismentions an almost identical error.08:39
wrathi hit "e" at the boot menu but never saw anything like kernal=line08:40
wrathwasn't sure where to enter that noapci thing08:40
black13Razor-X sorry i hit the wrong back key ... no fixed that issue it was an xorg.conf problem08:40
dr_williswrath,  this is a live cd you are booting?08:40
faenthat worked08:40
wrathyes08:40
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wrathi've never tried linux so i wanted to just see what it was on the live cd before installing on a new partition08:42
dr_willisHmm..  Not sure how the cd's work differently. I  had to mess with the noapic and noapci after i installed.08:42
windexdr_willis: laptop?08:43
dr_williswrath,  may want to go get the latest Knoppix Live cd' it may have better support for ya.08:43
dr_williswindex,  yea a compaq 3211us08:43
wrathit hangs after it loads some usb drive08:43
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dr_williswrath,  or its hanging right AFTER that :P and not printing an error.08:43
Brian_Borumasudo apt-get install libopenal-dev08:43
wrathyeah, i just thought ubuntu sounded cool08:43
Brian_Borumaoops08:43
Brian_Borumawrong window08:43
windexdr_willis: :) i dont know why, but laptop makers always seem to have one hell of a time supporting power management, which is funny, since they need it most.08:43
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dr_willisthe ubuntu live cd may be a little out of date08:44
dr_williswindex,  yep.08:44
wrathyeah, i just dl it08:44
dr_willisthe Ubuntu installer cd may work for ya.08:44
wrathwill it repartition for me or no08:44
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dr_willisbut really for getting your feet wet in linux - Knoppix is dang handy08:44
dr_willisI use that SystemREscueCd (linux live cd) to do my reparittiong needs. :P08:44
wrathis knoppix easier than ubnuntu08:44
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dr_williswrath,  its all easy.08:45
dr_willisonce ya learn the fundamentls its all the same.08:45
wrathhehe, i coming from XP08:45
wrathok08:45
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windexwrath: ubuntu will create partitions, but not resize your existing partitions. if you need to resize your windows partitions, you can use partition magic among other things.08:45
KruegerI have installed gstreamer0.8-plugins. But still I can't play my WMA and MP3 files in totem and other gstreamer based programs ?08:45
wrathyeah, i'll just use partition maging then08:45
wrathmagic08:45
Randall64like noppix and qtparted08:45
Kruegersorry my english ...08:46
Krueger:)08:46
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tucozI can't figure out what to look for in the x log file, to see at what resolution I am running at.08:46
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tucozxvidtune didn't work for me.08:46
wrathok gonna go check out Knoppix08:47
wrathpeace out...08:47
wrathty for advice08:47
windexKrueger: your english is better than my danish. :)08:47
dr_willisI like the Danish's with the walnuts.08:48
dr_willis:P08:48
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dr_willisand coffee08:48
windexdr_willis: if you're going to associate denmark with a tasty pastry, does everyone else get to associate america with a big mac?08:48
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Kruegerwindex: Hehe... hej ;)08:49
mcquillgI have a small ssh-agent question. Is there a way to leave the ssh-agent in daemon mode even after a user session has closed?08:49
mcquillgIn this case, I'm running a cronjob that should continue even after I've logged o ut.08:49
azikwindex: america not, but US yes :)08:49
windexazik: personally, i blame canada and mexico equally for the popularity of mcdonalds.08:50
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Razor-Xback08:51
holycowwindex, america is completely associated with a big mac08:51
Razor-Xscreen went whacky on me, and I was configuring my zsh a bit08:51
holycowbig, bloated, fatty with no substance08:51
holycowits perfect08:51
windex+1 holycow.08:51
Razor-Xholycow: ;)08:51
holycow*bows*08:52
holycow>_>08:52
aziki don't know about it, but it's usually think in US when you go to a mcdonalds and not Canada or Mexico...08:52
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holycowalas, mcd's and stafucks are just as popular here08:53
holycowin vancouver we even have starbucks kitty corner from each other08:53
holycowits sad08:53
windexholycow: i used to live in seattle. i will let that statement speak for itself.08:53
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holycowwindex, ehe :)08:54
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windexanyone need help with something linux orientated but not ubuntu specific since i still haven't absorbed enough knowledge to solve the ubuntu specific things? :)08:55
bootsmani might08:55
Brian_BorumaDo you want to run "privateer1.0.bz2.run", or display its contents?08:55
windexBrian_Boruma: i'd assume you'd want to save it to disk and then execute it?08:56
Brian_Borumais that what i want to do08:56
Brian_Borumawell it is currently on my desktop08:56
bootsmando you know a good editor that resembles ultraedit?08:56
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Razor-Xbootsman: never used ultraedit08:56
Razor-XI used to use SciTE on Windows08:57
Razor-Xmmmm, that's probably the best GUI editor ever08:57
windexBrian_Boruma: if its downloaded already, open a terminal window, cd to ~/Desktop, chmod +x ./privateer1.0.bz2.run, and run ./privateer1.0.bz2.run ?08:57
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dr_willistry 'file whatever.run' and see what kind of file it is.08:57
dr_willisthat filename seems WEIRD..08:57
Razor-Xstill, GUI spoils my teeth ;)08:57
Brian_Borumai already changed permissions to 74408:57
dr_willisit may need to be uncompressed befor ya can run it08:57
bootsmanuhm... maybe an editor that has these 2 features: syntax highlighting and folding?08:57
dr_willisbootsman,  'fte' :P08:57
windexBrian_Boruma: ok, then open a terminal, cd to ~/Desktop, and run ./privateer1.0.bz2.run08:57
Razor-Xbootsman: folding is a GUI action ;)08:57
Razor-XSciTE is for Linux I believe08:58
bootsmani want a gui =)08:58
Razor-Xand it has folding08:58
Razor-Xbootsman: ewww, editing in GUI, that's nasty08:58
dr_willisfte has a gui. :P its just text based08:58
thechitowncubssLinux needs a way for grandma to install software.08:58
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Razor-Xthat's like spraying salt with sugar08:58
bootsmani make less mistakes if i have some nice colors ;)08:58
dr_willisthechitowncubss,  check out the 'autopackage' system then.08:58
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threehi08:58
thechitowncubssdr_willis: i'm familiar08:58
Razor-Xbootsman: well, Terminals have nice colors too08:58
bootsmanand fte comes with ubuntu?08:58
windexRazor-X: i use nano. :( i get endless crap from vi people, yet when i want to do something it just works and they are reading their cheat sheet coffee mug. it's like they enjoy pain.08:58
Razor-Xjust your mouse is pretty much useless08:58
bootsmani can live with that08:59
dr_willisCheet Sheet Coffe Mug. :P lol08:59
Razor-Xwindex: i'm an emacs user08:59
dr_willisi want one!08:59
Razor-Xwindex: you obviously have a short memory span ;)08:59
myangCan anybody tell me, do I need to turn on certain ports to enable bittorrent downloading?08:59
Razor-Xin nano, how would you go about renaming every instance of ``log'' to ``\log'' ?08:59
windexRazor-X: i don't know anyone personally who uses emacs. :)08:59
bootsmani was a little bit scared by emacs when running it for the first time09:00
highvoltagewindex: i know some 10 year olds who love emacs09:00
myangMy gnome bittorrent can't connect to download ubuntu09:00
phixionwhy not use gedit?09:00
windexhighvoltage: im just happy they're using 'nix.09:00
threedo eany of you ppl know where i can get a wireless adapter the will work with ubuntu pls09:00
Brian_Borumaits verifying archive integrity09:00
dr_willisVi referance Mug --> http://www.cafepress.com/geekcheat.11507711?r=froogle09:00
Brian_Borumawindex09:00
windexthree: let me plug in my linksys wusb11 and see if it works.09:00
Razor-Xwindex: can you find out how to do that with nano? ;)09:00
threekk, thanx09:00
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Razor-Xhighvoltage: are you using age as some sort of deterrent?09:01
Razor-Xbecause i'm 15 mmmkay ;)09:01
windexBrian_Boruma: yep?09:01
Brian_Borumawindex says archive integrity all good09:01
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windexBrian_Boruma: i assume its ok then. i don't know what your doing, i just know it's a self extracting bz2.09:01
Razor-Xanyways, try out SciTE, a really nice GUI editor09:02
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threewindex: so ur linksys wireless adapter work then????09:02
Razor-Xthree: maybe!!!!!!!09:02
Brian_Borumawindex trying to install wing commander privateer game09:02
Razor-Xthree: is there a reason people use more than one punctuation?09:02
threeoh, kk09:02
phixionwhat program can i use to replace dc++?09:02
r2d4Can anyone please recommend me a good tutorial on setting up imap and pop on my Ubuntu box?09:02
sorush20guys... I can't find my menu bar on kde.. can anyone help... how can I restart it09:03
dr_willisRazor-X, ?!?09:03
r2d4servers that is.09:03
Razor-Xdr_willis: more than one of one instance of punctuation in a series09:03
Razor-X;)09:03
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Razor-Xr2d4: there are a few out there, I use one, don't remember offhand09:03
Razor-XI use dcgui09:03
Razor-X;)09:03
windexthree: you will be delighted(?) to know that the linksys wusb11 does not appear to work out of the box. however, if you have a development installation (gcc, etc) the drivers for it can be found at http://at76c503a.berlios.de/09:04
windexoh. he left.09:04
r2d4Razor-X: I will try that.09:04
Brian_Borumawindex sorry but /.setup4902: error while loading shared libraries: libgdk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:04
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windexBrian_Boruma: ah ha. looks like the game needs older libraries. let me see if they're in ubuntu via software installation.09:05
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phixionI'm trying to follow the DC++ tutorial here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28378&highlight=dc but the cvs commands arent working, how can i fix it?09:05
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Brian_Borumawindex thanks , thats really cool of you09:06
renbolicious```Anyone knows why there is no root after install?09:06
windexBrian_Boruma: as root (via su) or with sudo, run: aptitude install libgtk1.209:06
phixionrenbolicious```, you use 'sudo'09:07
other|studyrenbolicious```: did you ever read anything about this distro before you installed it?09:07
phixionhow can i get cvs working? ;/09:07
renbolicious```i didnet09:07
renbolicious```I just got the tip that it is very comfortable for users09:07
Brian_Borumawindex done09:07
windexother|study: i didn't, and it took me a minute until i ran a config utility and noticed it was like OS X to figure it out. many, many people are used to the same-old same-old.09:07
jab9417can anyone give me an idea why I wouldnt be getting audio from flash in Mozilla or firefox? I've re-installed the flash plugin and gstreamer.. is there something else I'm missing?09:07
Brian_Borumashould i try running it again now09:07
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windexBrian_Boruma: try running the program again, if it fails again, let me know on which library and i'll try again to find it. it's gunna be a cat and mouse game.09:08
renbolicious```ok, where is the FM i gotta read ;>?09:08
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jab9417Ubuntu Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//09:09
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highvoltageRazor-X: no09:10
Razor-Xhighvoltage: eh?09:10
Razor-XI just came back...09:10
highvoltageyou asked me if i'm using age as a deterent. the answer is no.09:10
Razor-Xuggghh, relearning screen is a pain ;)09:10
Razor-Xhighvoltage: cool09:10
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highvoltagescreen is eary!09:11
highvoltagei mean easy :)09:11
|satan|when i put in the cd unbuntu it shuts down my computer09:11
Razor-Xhighvoltage: not when you got emacs binds emblazoned in your flesh ;)09:11
phixionanyone able to help me? why can i not use the "cvs" commands?09:11
tritiumphixion, have you installed it?09:12
phixionno :o where can i get it?09:12
windexaptitude install cvs ? :)09:12
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Brian_Borumawindex im trying sudo apt - get aptitude install libgtk1.209:12
Brian_Borumai keep getting errors09:12
phixioncant find cvs... :/09:12
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windexohh.09:12
tritiumBrian_Boruma, use either apt-get or aptitude, but not both09:12
jab9417Sorry to be a pest, but can anyone give me an idea why I wouldnt be getting audio from flash in Mozilla or firefox? I've re-installed the flash plugin and gstreamer.. is there something else I'm missing?09:13
Razor-Xcvs is a package here :(09:13
windexBrian_Boruma: you don't need the apt - get. all you should need to type is sudo aptitude install libgtk1.2 .. i just used aptitude because it has fewer issues for me on debian.09:13
phixionNo candidate version found for cvs, No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.09:13
Razor-Xjab9417: is something else using audo right now?09:13
jab9417no.. nothing.09:13
Razor-XI like aptitude ;)09:13
Brian_Borumawindex your a genious09:13
windexjab9417: flash player only supports writing directly to DSP, if your sound card can not handle simultanious DSP writes and/or you are running another sound daemon, that's why.09:13
Razor-XBrian_Boruma: that's common sense ;) and you mispelled genius ;)09:14
Brian_Borumawindex lmao09:14
tritiumphixion, it's in main.  You have to be able to get it, unless you haven't updated your package list ever09:14
jab9417hmm.. okay. I'll take a look into that..09:14
Razor-Xanyone willing to chink up a more scientific approach at netspeak, join me in offtopic09:14
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phixiontritium, I have... I have default repositories, with universe enabled09:14
Razor-Xs/chink/think/09:14
tritium!info cvs09:15
ubotucvs: (Concurrent Versions System), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:1.12.9-9 (hoary), Packaged size: 1400 kB, Installed size: 3024 kB09:15
tritiumit's there, phixion09:15
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phixiontritium, nm lol, all my repositories were "##" commented09:15
Brian_Borumadid you all know you could take a .run file and drag it to terminal window and it operate the same as using command line09:15
phixionfrom when i edited them09:15
phixionbah :)09:15
tritium:)09:15
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occyIntel Graphics Media Accelerator 900   <-- my laptop has that video chipset...09:16
tritiumphixion, glad you figured that out.09:16
phixionta mate :)09:16
r2d4Razor-X: you said dcgui. did you misspell it? I am getting a P2P client on that.09:16
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occyjust installed Ubuntu on it.09:16
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occyand get a big white screen.09:16
windexBrian_Boruma: nope. but that's because i barely depend on a gui as anything but window management. :)09:16
Brian_Borumaoh09:16
Brian_Borumawell i was hoping i could help09:16
Razor-Xr2d4: that's what DC++ is09:16
Razor-Xit's a P2P client09:16
occyhttp://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Media_Accelerator_90009:16
occyhmm09:16
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levanderNobody in here has gotten udftools to work?09:17
Brian_Borumawindex09:17
r2d4Razor-X: OK! I was asking for IMAP, a mail server :-)09:17
levanderThere is an alternative to RW access to DVD-RW and CD-RW discs?09:17
renbolicious```omg09:17
Brian_Borumawindex where will this install to?09:17
levanderalternative to udf?09:17
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renbolicious```friends just gave me the hint09:17
renbolicious```sudo passwd09:17
renbolicious```and now09:17
renbolicious```I am root .x09:17
IceDC571how do i find out what all my hardware is in linux?09:18
Brian_Borumawindex what binary path do i want to install this to?09:18
tritiumrenbolicious```, and?09:18
windexBrian_Boruma: what's the default?09:18
renbolicious```that is just amazing09:18
tritiumrenbolicious```, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:18
tommi^Is it just me or doesn't Evolution work properly with maildir?09:18
renbolicious```i got to register first09:18
Brian_Boruma/home/name09:18
windexBrian_Boruma: i dont know anything about the game. i'm going to assume it has sane defaults, since i have nothing else to work from?09:18
Brian_Borumaok09:18
tritiumrenbolicious```, to read the wiki page?  No, you don't...09:18
Brian_Borumawindex thanks09:18
Brian_Borumacan i have it install to my desktop?09:19
windexBrian_Boruma: i don't see why not.09:19
windexwouldn't be my first choice. :)09:19
Brian_Borumaok i just left the defaults as you said windex09:20
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Sponge_How do I install a palm m130 on ubuntu?09:20
windexBrian_Boruma: just remember where that was, then create a launcher on your desktop for the path to the game.09:20
levanderIf a CDRW has an iso fs on it, can I blank the disc, and create a new iso fs on it?09:20
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windexlevander: yes, but i dont remember which utilities are on ubuntu. cdrecord?09:21
Razor-Xlevander: mkisofs I believe09:21
tritiumlevander, even nautilus can do tha09:21
tritiumtha09:21
Razor-Xdd if=/dev/null of=/dev/path/to/device09:21
tritiumarg..that09:21
Razor-Xand then mkisofs09:21
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r2d4Razor-X: oops! Never mind. You were answering someone else.09:21
Razor-Xthe first command nulls the cd, the second makes the iso fs09:21
Razor-Xr2d4: hehehe ;)09:21
levanderyeah, mkiosfs makes the iso fs, and cdrecord burns the disc, anybody know the command line utility to blank the disc?09:21
windexlevander: cdrecord has a 'blank=all' command? :)09:21
Sponge_I can't find the ttyUSB* on ubuntu. With all this stuff of udev. What can I do?09:22
Razor-Xwindex: that works too, I guess? ;)09:22
levandertritium: it's gotta be a command line util, script is going to run from cron to backup my system09:22
occythe new ipw2200 drivers,09:22
occyhmm09:22
tritiumlevander, ah, okay09:22
levanderwindex: thanks, i'll check it out09:22
Razor-XI just love dd so much, it's crazy ;)09:22
Brian_Borumawindex what would the run file be09:22
occyanyone know how I can get that?09:22
Brian_Borumawindex the extension i mean09:22
windexBrian_Boruma: there might not be an extension, what binary directory did you install to?09:22
levanderAnybody remember the emacs command to switch two buffers?  So that the buffer on the bottom is now on the top, and the buffer that was on the top is now on the bottom?09:23
Brian_Boruma/home/XX09:23
Brian_Borumai am browsing through the folder09:23
Brian_Borumain home09:23
Brian_Borumaand i see it09:23
Razor-Xlevander: hmmm, no, actually ;)09:23
windexokay. :)09:23
Brian_Borumadont know what file would start it09:23
Razor-Xyou can always write your own macro for reference09:23
Brian_Borumaand dont want to go clicking on everything i see09:23
phixionif something tells me to "Also apt-get install your kernel headers." what does it mean?09:23
Razor-XI generally use C-x o C-x b RET C-x o C-x b RET, but that may have different effects depending on your last buffers and stuff09:24
phixionapt-get install what? :)09:24
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renbolicious```so, what is the command to setup my soundcard? alsaconf is not known.09:24
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windexBrian_Boruma: okay, go into the directory, do a: ls -l|grep rwx .. what binaries are there?09:24
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Mobus...09:25
punkasshi, a buddy of mine just rebooted his hoary install and now none of his networking is working09:25
punkasswireless or ethernet09:25
Razor-Xpunkass: did he update any modules?09:25
punkassifup just gives "eth0: no ipv6 routers present"09:25
punkassno09:25
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punkassand then DCHP just goes to sleep09:25
punkassit does this whole thing to of course: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 509:26
punkassdmesg shows that it can see that eth0 link is plugged in09:26
Razor-Xpunkass: is the DHCP server working?09:26
Razor-X(I mean, by using another machine or such)09:27
punkasswe he tried sudo dhclient eth0 but it failed too09:27
punkassoh yeah09:27
punkasshe as a windows box and a knoppix laptop using the same router09:27
punkassand they are fine09:27
Razor-Xhmmm....09:27
punkassyeah thats what i thought too ;)09:27
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KruegerI have installed the gstreamer0.8-plugins package from synaptic. but it dosen't work, I can't play my mp3 and other files in totem and other gstreamer based programs ?09:27
Razor-Xpunkass: if you had another Ubuntu box, you could download the dhcp package but... ah :\09:28
punkassKrueger: run gst-register ....doh cant remeber the whole command name09:28
Mobusok this is weird09:28
MobusI'm talking to you guys09:28
Mobusbut no other internet app is working right now...09:28
levanderWhat's this 8.3 filename limit for iso that I'm reading about in the mkisofs man page? I've never had to limit filenames to that in the past.09:28
punkassyeah I was going to get him to do a an install of dhcpcd but of course no network09:28
techhow do i configure ubuntu to use some other windowmanager+09:29
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Kruegerpunkass: could it be gst-register-0.8 ?09:29
punkassyes thats the one09:29
Kruegerthank you punkass :D09:29
occyhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51187&highlight=dv400009:29
occyhmm09:29
punkassno prob09:29
dan_Hi there!09:29
occythis seems to address my problem... but.09:29
occyit's for the live cd.09:29
occyI've already installed Ubuntu on this dv4000 laptop.09:30
punkassany other thoughts Razor-X?09:30
windexlevander: the -J flag enables joilet directory records, which allow up to 64 characters09:30
Razor-Xpunkass: i'm thinking :(09:30
punkasshehe09:30
Razor-Xwell09:30
Razor-Xinstead of using DHCP09:30
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Razor-Xhave you tried configging it manually?09:30
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punkassno havent tried that yet09:30
Razor-Xsince you have the information the DHCP server provides for you using other boxes09:31
Razor-Xtry that, that'll be an interim solution09:31
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Razor-Xthen you can reinstall your DHCP package09:31
dan_How can I make Ubuntu to "see" (use) my NTFS partitions?09:31
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punkassif it works that would be great09:31
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occyhow do I get to the "Configure X-server.org" screen?09:31
windexdan_: NTFS is read-only, there is write support, but you can't add or grow files.09:31
Mobusdan_: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt09:31
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tritiumoccy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:32
|satan|i pute in the unbuntu cd and i hit enter then it goes throw the process then shuts down my computer09:32
occytritium, thank you sir.09:32
|satan|what is happening09:32
benplaut|satan| live or install CD?09:33
|satan|install cd09:33
windex|satan|: do you remove the ubuntu install cd when the installation prompts you to?09:34
turtle_http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3506809:34
|satan|nah i pop it in then it says hit enter to install09:34
|satan|then it goes throw some code09:34
|satan|then shuts down09:34
Razor-X|satan|: maybe it says that for a reason? ;)09:34
windex|satan|: does it give any reasons?09:34
turtle_http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu09:35
windexi'm going to assume it does this to prevent some horrible thing from occuring, or because your download was incomplete. but i don't know.09:35
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|satan|should i pop it in again09:35
|satan|and see what it says09:35
windexmight help if you knew the error from immediatley before reboot, yes.09:35
occyw00p09:35
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occytritium, thanks bud09:36
Razor-Xwish I could use a regexp for that XD09:36
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tritiumoccy, any time :)09:36
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levanderokay, great, when i run 'cdrecord -scanbus' i get warned about running it on a kernel 2.5 or newer09:37
levanderIs okay to use cdrecord anyway?09:37
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RatmannHello all09:37
bhhi ratmann!09:37
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RatmannQuick little question09:38
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|satan|it says sucessfull then my screen goes blank09:38
RatmannI'm on Window XP, got Ubuntu on a small HD09:38
benplautjito: Thinkpad... and best for everything else, too :)09:38
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windex|satan|: does it reboot? or just stop?09:38
RatmannI'm gonna go over to the Ubuntu HD, but i wanna be able to access some of the files in my Windows HD09:38
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jitothanks benplaut. Does ubuntu install well on just about any thinkpad? How about Dell?09:39
|satan|just stop09:39
windex|satan|: no hard disk activity, or anything?09:39
|satan|i thimy computer on just a blank screen09:39
benplautjito: the physical quality of dell is horendus... yup, it works on pretty much any recent thinkpad09:39
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jitoexcellent09:39
benplauti'm a bit biased, but.. :)09:39
narimanHELP!!!!!!09:40
RatmannAnyone know?09:40
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windexbenplaut: the business dell boxes are about the same as using equivilently priced self-built stuff. dimensions and low end notebooks, though, oi.09:40
Randall64What's a .udeb?09:40
benplautT series is the mosd expensive09:40
|satan|nothing is happening09:40
RatmannAnyone know how i can access the files?09:40
benplautbut best quality09:40
narimancan someone help me install WINE09:40
benplautR series is a nice comprimise09:41
windex|satan|: im not sure what's going on, then. the installer may have a problem using your hardware?09:41
benplautnariman: yup09:41
bhthere is special support for hp notebooks: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/custom/hplaptops. Anyone tried that?09:41
narimanok, help me :(09:41
nariman:)09:41
benplautjust a sec, i'll find the better tutorial09:41
|satan|so what shall i do09:41
|satan|install another linus09:41
|satan|linux09:41
windex|satan|: does the livecd work?09:42
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crimsunjito: the T4xs are well supported09:42
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|satan|didnt try it09:42
mauripchi09:42
crimsunjito: currently using a T41 and T42 fully supported by Hoary09:42
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nevinnarimanL you can just run "sudo apt-get install wine"09:43
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windex|satan|: well, i'm not versed at all with how the installer works. you can try another distribution, or wait for someone else to help out.09:43
JoiItocrimsun, thanks09:43
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|satan|maybe i will try the live dvd09:45
punkasswell Razor-X still no luck with a static ip09:45
punkassthis is so wierd09:45
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punkassweird also09:46
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Razor-Xpunkass: hmmmmm....09:46
tommi^How to convert maildir to mbox?09:46
Razor-Xtommi^: mbox?09:46
Razor-Xthat's a type of box in LaTeX ;)09:46
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punkasscrimsun: any idea why networking would just stop working....router is fine as knoppix and XP are using it fine09:46
punkassno updates have been done09:47
Razor-Xpunkass: I'm guessing networking itself broke.... :(09:47
punkassjust a reboot then no network09:47
Razor-Xalthough why... i'm not so sure09:47
tucozAre there any serious issues with breeze, or is it ok to install?09:47
windexpunkass: give 'ifup eth0' a try?09:47
Razor-Xdid you try disconnecting it, then reconnecting it?09:47
windex:)09:47
punkassyeah i did09:47
Razor-Xtucoz: many many serious issues09:47
renbolicious```what tool do i use instead of alsaconf?09:47
tommi^Razor-X, yeah, that's exactly what I'm trying to do.09:47
nevinrenbolicious```: why aren't you using esd?09:47
tommi^qmail has a maildir2mbox utility but qmail isn't packaged to ubuntu.09:47
Razor-Xtommi^: where's your maildir located, is mbox a shell variable?09:47
windexpunkass: sometimes linux has issues with unclean network hardware, when he rebooted, did he do a full power off or a soft reset?09:48
Razor-Xtommi^: maildir/mbox are application specific, so please elaborate09:48
renbolicious```nevin, because i didnt know there was a config utility named esd09:48
renbolicious```ill try right away09:48
tucozRazor-X: Oh,ok. Hmm, then I'll guess I'll stick with 5.04 then09:48
punkasswindex: just a reboot09:48
nevinrenbolicious```: esd is an equivalent to alsa09:48
Razor-Xnevin: esd uses alsa09:48
nevinrenbolicious```: it should come preconfigured with ubuntu09:48
punkassfrom the menu09:48
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tommi^Randall64, no, I'm not really trying to do latex stuff. Maildir and mbox, shouldn't be too hard to figure out to what those are related to. Formats where you keep your mail in. For example, /var/spool/mail/Razor-X is in mbox format, I guess.09:49
renbolicious```hmm09:49
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renbolicious```so what is the actual command to hack in?09:49
tommi^Randall64, not for you, for Razor-X09:49
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windexpunkass: i used to have a machine that had a integrated realtek nic, and if the machine was rebooted without powering off/on, the network interface got no traffic. i'm not saying that's the problem, but it could be.09:49
Razor-Xtommi^: are the differences in how the text is stored?09:49
Razor-Xtry googling something too09:50
punkasswindex: ill give that a shot...although the wireless stopped working too09:50
Razor-Xif it's a text difference, a regexp will work09:50
tommi^Razor-X, mbox = one big file, Maildir = every message is a file.09:50
nevinrenbolicious```: what are you trying to configure?09:50
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Razor-Xtommi^: you can write a script to change that09:50
tommi^Razor-X, that is, if you simplify it.09:50
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renbolicious```my soundcard09:50
renbolicious```isa soundblaster 1609:50
|satan|i tried it on my base stattion09:50
|satan|and it loaded09:50
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nevinrenbolicious```: does it work at all?  what sort of problem are you hainvg?09:51
Kruegerwhich gstreamer package should I install for WMA support ?09:51
tommi^Razor-X, I don't want to reinvent the wheel. I'm not sure even if I can.09:51
windexpunkass: im thinking of possible issues, but i don't know much about ubuntu specific network configuration09:51
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godzirra_hrm. how do I get the java plugin for firefox?  I've looked and cant find what package I need.09:51
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levanderAnybody know if the ubuntu developers are working on fixing these issues with CD burning in breezy?  I can't get anything to work from the command line.  Googling, lots of people with same problems, no answers.09:51
occytritium, I updated the Ubuntu Forum post for that laptop model to include that bit of info you gave me to help other people in the future.09:52
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renbolicious```I'm sry, I'm totally newb09:52
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OiPenguinI've installed ubuntu on a low-spec system, but it's working poorly.09:52
nevinrenbolicious```: what problem are you trying to solve?09:52
renbolicious```i wanna listen to music :)09:52
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OiPenguinWhat's the minimum limit for an Ubuntu system09:52
nevinrenbolicious```: mp3?09:52
|satan|can someone help me install this09:52
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nophixgodzirra_: sun-j2sdk1.5 maybe?09:52
Belutzis it save to uninstall all the library-dev packages?09:53
OiPenguinHow do I find the specs on my computer in Ubuntu?09:53
nevinrenbolicious```: if so, you need to install xmms (run "sudo apt-get install xmms")... the prepackaged music player isn't that great, I find09:53
nevinrenbolicious```: then I can help you configure xmms09:53
other|studynevin: neither is xmms :p09:53
godzirra_nophix: I cant find that package....09:54
punkasswindex: yeah this is pretty wierd09:54
renbolicious```i just installed xmms :P09:54
renbolicious```that i did know :D09:54
raven3x7OiPenguin, what exactly do you mean low-spec? if your system is really old maybe instead of gnome you should use fluxbox or any other lightweight window manager09:54
Kruegerwhich gstreamer package should I install for WMA support ?09:54
punkasswindex: and of course it has to be my buddys comp that is out of town09:54
nevinrenbolicious```: start it, then open preferences (press ctrl+p)09:54
nevinrenbolicious```: you should see a popup with a bunch of options, following so far?09:54
windexpunkass: as root (or with sudo_, he can also try to run /etc/init.d/networking restart09:54
renbolicious```k, i choose alsa...09:55
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OiPenguinI've taken over an early pentium PC and I'm planning to prepare it for someone with no computer as alternative09:55
raven3x7Krueger, you probably need w32codecs09:55
renbolicious```i have to configure my sounddevice first09:55
nevinrenbolicious```: choose eSound, it should work out of the box09:55
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nophixgodzirra_: there are many topics regarding java in the forums, try ubuntuguide.org too09:55
Kruegerraven3x7: okay... thx09:55
raven3x7OiPenguin, how experienced is that someone?09:55
OiPenguinIs fluxbux easy for a newbie?09:55
renbolicious```nevin, no it doesnt :/09:55
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|satan|can someone help me install this unbuntu09:56
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nevinrenbolicious```: in a console, run "killall esd", then "esd &"09:56
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OiPenguinUsed to surfing the net, that's about it. Not experienced. I'm experienced, but not with linux. I'm no possibility to solve his problems as the arise09:56
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raven3x7OiPenguin, not really. uhm maybe fvwm'95 is a better choice. it looks alot like win95 although i find it rather ugly and featureless09:56
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raven3x7OiPenguin, not sure if that one is in buntu though09:57
OiPenguinIs fluxbox in Ubuntu?09:57
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pestilenceOiPenguin: maybe xfce would be something to check out...you could configure it to be pretty easy to use.09:57
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raven3x7OiPenguin, yes09:57
pestilenceraven3x7: it's not in ubuntu proper is it?09:58
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pestilenceraven3x7: it's in universe, and that package doesn't work very well09:58
OiPenguinCheers. Would that be an alternative to Gnome or KDE?09:58
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godzirra_nophix: *shrug*  Ok.  I assumed it was a simple apt-get install...  of course, I assumed I could just do an apt-cache search and findit too ;)09:58
OiPenguin(I'm new in Linux, you know)09:58
raven3x7pestilence, what package are you talkin about fvwm95 or fluxbox?09:58
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raven3x7OiPenguin, i think pestilence is right. you should try xfce09:59
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Kruegerin which repositorie can I find the w32codecs package ?09:59
pestilenceraven3x7: fluxbox09:59
robotgeek!codecs10:00
ubotucodecs is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:00
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OiPenguinHow do I try xfce?10:00
narimani need help with installing drivers10:00
narimancan some one help me?10:00
raven3x7pestilence i have it installed havent used it much. all i can say is afterstep is definetly very unstable10:00
narimani want to install my wireless pcmcia card10:00
nophixnariman: what drivers first?10:00
nophixoh, nm10:00
pestilenceraven3x7: heh.  i wasn't suggesting afterstep :)10:00
narimanive found the drivers on the chipmakers page10:00
cwarnerare changes into the ubuntu 2.6.10-5 kernel backported from latest stable?10:01
punkasswindex: no luck with the network restart10:01
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windexnariman: are they provided as source or binary only?10:01
windexpunkass: i'm stumped. is he getting a link light on his hub/switch?10:01
raven3x7pestilence, nope you didnt. but that one is also in universe. i gouess wm not in ubuntu proper are probably not well tested. that was my point ;)10:02
narimanwindex: source10:02
punkasswindex: yes he is...even dmesg is showing that link is up10:02
windexnariman: have you installed kernel modules from source before?10:02
raven3x7OiPenguin, sudo aptitude install xfce probably10:02
OiPenguinRaven3x7: I've found this guide for fluxbox. Looks a lot less comprehensible than your one-liner.10:03
narimanno, ima a newbie so10:03
narimani don think so10:03
JoiItocan I ask about hardware support on a T43? Is there one of the CD/DVD drives it supports or doesn't support? And does it support the PCI 802.11 card properly?10:03
narimanis it hard?10:03
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ccesariohi..... I'm using the breezy version, and mey keyboard is configured to Abnt2 model... but the "/" keyboard don't work.... how to solve this...10:04
OiPenguinWill your one-liner do the whole thing, or will I need additional configuring?10:04
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OiPenguinRave3x7: The aformentioned guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51942&highlight=howto+fluxbox10:04
windexnariman: well, you need a development enviroment (gcc, etc). if you don't have one, it'll take a minute to install it10:05
raven3x7OiPenguin, well it will download and install xfce. dunno how well configured it is. It will most probably work though10:05
raven3x7OiPenguin, hmm i installed fluxbox with apt havent used/configured it much since though. i can confirm that fluxbo needs work after install though10:06
raven3x7!xfce10:06
uboturaven3x7: I don't know10:06
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robotgeek!info xfce10:07
ubotuxfce: (The Cholesterol Free Desktop Environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 3.8.18-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 907 kB, Installed size: 2548 kB10:07
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OiPenguinThanks, I'll try and see how it goes. With the current set-up, how do I find out RAM and CPU of my computer?10:08
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raven3x7robotgeek i was looking for a guide actually. i guess xfce is a metapackage10:09
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musicman2059xfce > gnome > kde :P10:09
HiddenWolfI have a very old laptop, and I can't get xorg to work on it, any hints?10:10
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raven3x7OiPenguin, System > Device Manager might give you details and there is probably a much more effective terminal command but i dunno it10:11
robotgeekraven3x7: i don't think you are gonna find a guide from ubotu :)10:11
robotgeeklspci,lsusb10:11
raven3x7robotgeek it does have some links to the wiki10:11
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robotgeekraven3x7: cool10:12
raven3x7although not for xfce apparently10:12
raven3x7OiPenguin, that System > Administration > Device Manager actually sorry10:13
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raven3x7musicman2059, i havent seen it decently preconfigured on any distro i tried it10:13
ccesariosomebody have any idea... about abnt2 keyboard10:14
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OiPenguinCheers, I'll have to switch computers. Back soon if everything goes well.10:14
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GeoffrianDoes anyone have a Dell printer working in Ubuntu?????10:15
Manawyddanhi, everyone. i've installed python through synaptic, and now i would like to create an icon for it(IDLE), but it seams that i can't find the right file, can someone help me with this?10:15
Dr_FateI do I uninstall a package and everything that depends on that package?10:15
^thehatsrule^icon? what would you need an icon for?10:16
raven3x7doess anyone know if udev can be disabled at boot in ubuntu?10:16
Manawyddanit's just so that i don't have to invoke from the prompt all the time.10:17
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Dr_FateHow do I uninstall a package and everything that depends on that package?10:18
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Manawyddani think using synaptic will do the trick10:18
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Mittens87hello10:20
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Mittens87anyone willing to help me with connecting to the internet?10:21
benplautMittens87: sure... i see... cable?10:21
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benplaut(i can't but someone can)10:21
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Mittens87whos that someone?10:22
cwarnerudev can't be disabled at boot unless you replace it with a way to create device nodes.10:22
cwarnerare there any ubuntu kernel team members in here?10:22
Mittens87cwarner can you help me with my ubuntu?10:22
cwarnerwhats wrong?10:23
raven3x7Mittens87, if you dont tell us what type of conection you have noone will be able to help10:23
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raven3x7cwarner thanks10:23
Mittens87i cant connect to the internet, wirelessly or through a wire connection10:23
Mittens87its cable10:23
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cwarnerhave you done the obvious?? IE: make sure your cables are connected etc?10:24
Mittens87it recognizes my wireless card and pci card in my laptop10:24
Mittens87yes10:24
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raven3x7Mittens87, unfortunatly i have no experience with cable modems or wifi unfurtunatly\10:24
Mittens87even the router shows that someone has connected (my laptop wiht ubuntu on it)10:24
dmgunnWhen I install ImageMagick from synaptic, it doesn't show up under Applications -> Graphics... does anyone know why?10:24
Brian_Borumawell i've gotten privateer to run but the frame rates are unbearable10:24
windeximagemagick is a set of libraries and command line utilities10:24
Mittens87is there a way to manually switch connections?10:25
Brian_Borumai mean my mouse cursor get 2 frames a sec10:25
narimanbe be be dididi kll!10:25
raven3x7dmgunn some apps need you to manually create an entry10:25
Brian_Borumaany solutions on fixing this problem10:25
dmgunnwindex, thanks.. so how do I execute it?10:25
cwarnerMittens87, do your wireless and wired connections both provide internet access??10:25
dmgunnraven3x7, thats pretty lame.. thanks tho10:25
windexdmgunn: it depends, there are multiple programs for resizing images10:25
Mittens87yes i'm on the connection now10:25
Mittens87it doesnt give my laptop an ip10:26
Mittens87it connects but dhcp doesnt kick in10:26
Brian_Borumawindex ive gotten it to run and everything looks good, i just cant get frames rates above 1-2 fps10:26
windexdmgunn: the most common is 'convert'. check it's man page.10:26
raven3x7Brian_Boruma, you have installed drivers for your graphics card?10:26
cwarnerMittens87, ok lets fix some of your terminology here.. when you say it "connects" explain that to me10:26
dmgunnwindex, thanks.. I want to draw tho.. and I find gimp complicated10:26
Brian_Borumaraven3x7 well just what ubuntu has loaded for them initially10:26
Mittens87now the network connection says its connectet to "lo"10:26
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raven3x7Brian_Boruma, nvidia or ati?10:27
Mittens87like when i go onto the config to my router, it shows that its connected in the log, but never shows that it assigned an ip to the laptop10:27
windexdmgunn: imagemagick is not a gui editor, it's for doing automated image manipulation last i knew.10:27
Kruegerby installing xfce in synaptic ?10:27
cwarnerMittens87, ok you're confusing some terms here.. you're not connected.. if the network or wireless card cannot get information from the dhcp server then they can be given a respective ip10:27
siimois breezy compiled with gcc 410:27
dmgunnMittens87, go to Connection properties and change Name to eth010:27
cwarnerMittens87, can't even10:27
windexBrian_Boruma: you're going to have to get help from raven3x7 or another if you want help getting 3d acceleration to work out10:27
Brian_Borumaati10:27
cwarnerMittens87, are you using gnome or kde?10:28
Mittens87how do i get to connection properties warner10:28
Mittens87?10:28
Mittens87gnome10:28
Brian_Borumaive done this xorg-driver-fglrx-dev10:28
dmgunnwindex: thanks..10:28
Brian_Borumafor the ati drivers10:28
cwarnerMittens87, System/Administration/Networking10:28
Brian_Borumais that correct?10:28
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cwarnerMittens87, from there you'll be presented with a window.. it has a notebook widget (the thing with the tabs) consisting of the following panes.. Connections/General/DNS/Hosts10:30
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HiddenWolfGuys, I've got an ancient laptop that'll go into hardlock the minute I launch X, how can I figure out which xorg settings I need to set?10:30
raven3x7Brian_Boruma, i've alway had nvidia but there is a guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?highlight=%28binary%2910:30
cwarnerMittens87, you'll want to make sure that the ethernet connection is available or the wireless connection depending on what you would like to use.. they should be "active".. if they are already active you'll want to check the "Properties" button10:30
PrimoTurbomsg nickserv set email primoturbo@gmail.com10:31
PrimoTurbooops10:31
PrimoTurboforgot the slash10:31
La_PaRCajaja10:31
Mittens87ok so i want to stick with wireless so i'll just set wireless to active10:31
cwarnerMittens87, from here it'll give you a window listing your connection settings etc etc.. Configuration: should be DHCP if you are using DHCP otherwise it will be Static IP10:31
cwarnerMittens87, ok10:31
Mittens87shit now the network connections arent even loading hold on i'm gonna restart10:32
cwarnerMittens87, you shouldn't need to restart10:32
blueyedcan I switch somehow to a pts that I see with "w"?10:32
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cwarnerfirefox has severe mem leaks10:34
cwarnerand I need some kernel backports :-)10:34
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siimocwarner, no it doesnt10:35
Mezdoubt we'll ever backport the kernel cwarner10:35
phixioncwarner - running 1.0.6?10:35
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Mezcwarner, not Charles Warner?10:35
cwarneryes.. firefox does..10:35
cwarnerChristopher10:35
Mezah fair enough, my old boss (sort of) was Charles Warner :D10:35
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siimoit must be your config, it works fine here no leaks10:35
hybrid_gothmusicman2059: i just apt-get install  xfce4 and it worked10:35
phixionlol10:36
cwarnerhah.. well then my name is Charles.. lets get some kernel backporting10:36
raven3x7cwarner hmmm i havent noticed any serious performance issues with firefox on linux. windoze is another story though. if i leave ff running long enough the system becomes unuseable10:36
musicman2059apt-get install isn't possible without an internet connection since XFCE isn't on the CD to begin with. :P10:36
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Mezcwarner: the Kernel WILL NOT be backported.10:36
Mezat the current point in time10:36
siimobut i run the official builds of firefox, not ubuntu builds10:36
phixionhey Mez, you in birmingham?10:36
Mezand cwarner if your name is charles, you owe me money10:36
Mezphixion, yes, sort of, why10:37
phixion< telford :-)10:37
phixionnot far from b'ham10:37
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Mez<-- tamworth, not far from B'ham either10:37
phixion:D10:37
phixionah near the safari park?10:37
phixionthats in tamworth isnt it?10:37
Mezo_O10:37
MezDrayton Manor you're thinking of10:37
phixionoh ye10:38
phixionwell, one of em :)10:38
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phixionused to go to em as a kid10:38
cwarneri'll have to roll my own kernel then..10:38
cwarnerahhh god.. here we go..10:38
Mezcwarner, you can backport it yourself: just we wont backport it officially10:38
cwarneryeah i'll have to backport I just need a couple patches anyway.. i can't wait till october.. hows breezy coming?10:39
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raven3x7anyone have any idea why compiling nvidia 6111 kernel module succeds but it fails to insert it and then aborts installation?10:40
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raven3x7on hoary10:40
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Brian_Borumaraven3x7 well the thing is i have and igp because its running from my laptop it is an rs200M10:40
mika5tu10:40
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(LasseL/#ubuntu) the trick is of course that modern "2d" programs utilize the 3d pipeline11:09
(kemik/#ubuntu) cwarner: k, then maybe he just did something wrong11:10
Brian_Boruma/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root11:10
Brian_Borumabash: dpkg-reconfig: command not found11:10
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Brian_Borumaam i not doing this correctly?|11:10
kemikLasseL:  use fglrx then, i'd say it would be the easiest way11:10
windexdpkg-reconfigure11:10
windexBrian_Boruma: it needs to be run with 'sudo' in front of it11:10
kemikBrian_Boruma:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:11
cwarnerkemik, well its a command line thing... i don't believe its something you can set up from ubuntu.. so hes not to blame.. maybe someoen should write a util or maybe someone already has11:11
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kemikok..11:12
kemikim not pro-ati or nvidia tho11:12
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LasseLFYI: the current and to a greater degree the next version of java uses all OpenGL to draw graphics with -- really fast if the drivers are good enough11:12
vassiehello all11:12
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kemiki was thinking of getting a nvidia card for my next box, but since he had such a hassle with the drivers i guess im sticking with ATi11:12
cwarneri'm biased.. so you'll have to pardon me..11:12
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windexlassel: for 2d, you want the driver with the least possible mucking about while writing to video memory, basically.11:12
colmoreIs there an app I can run that will tell me if I'm using hardware acceleration for openGL or not?11:12
cwarnerkemik, thats fine.. use what works for you11:13
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LasseLwindex, I am just saying that you can't tell if an applications is 2D or 3D anymore11:14
telemacoi upgrade from hoary to breezy and in breezy there isn't a mkfontdir command , anyone can help me ?11:14
windexlassel: except for the lag rendering complex screens in 2d or the lag rendering 3d? :D11:14
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kemiktelemaco:  check topic ;)11:15
LasseLwell, after i changed from metacity to openbox i am actually happy about performance11:15
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windexlassel: lag with window managers is the fault of the window manager -- more complex, more lag.11:16
crispynix-v6LasseL: ugh, are you serious? even though I just got a new cooler for my card, I don't *want* java apps to use OpenGL. How to turn it off?11:16
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LasseLcrispynix-v6, 1) why could you want to turn it off. 2) in java 5 it is off by default :)11:17
telemacokemik: yeah , i know ... but i develop a ubuntu distro based and i need breezy :)11:17
Razor-Xwindex: wow, you help for ages11:17
Razor-Xtelemaco: can't you custom add the packages?11:17
crispynix-v6LasseL: anything OpenGL puts my card into 3D mode (i.e. higher clocks, more heat)11:17
windexRazor-X: technically i calling this working, to make up for the dozen cd's i just ordered from shipit.11:17
crispynix-v6LasseL: that's okay for gaming (on and off), but not okay for apps (that I might run for a while longer)11:17
Razor-Xwindex: .... mmmkay11:18
LasseLcrispynix-v6, because of the noise?11:18
Razor-Xi'm on vacation, after finals11:18
Razor-Xthe course is easy, but hell, the guy grades hard as _fsck_11:18
crispynix-v6LasseL: no, the heat; the new cooler is quite quiet11:18
telemacoRazor-X: what do you mean ?11:18
cwarnerMittens87, i'm sorry but i must leave.. hopefully your network connectivity problems are relegated to a faulty cable or hardware or something11:18
Razor-Xtelemaco: if you're making an Ubuntu based distro, A) Stability should be better than bleeding edge and B) Packages specifically in Breezy can be incorporated in by yourself11:18
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windexRazor-X: i am also hoping my helping people in here will catch me up to speed on ubuntu specifics since i am hoping to suggest a customer install it over windows. :D11:19
stan-amhello everyone11:19
Razor-Xwindex: nice ;)11:19
stan-amcan anyone give me a hand with a script?11:19
PrimoTurboHow do I mount my c drive so I access it?11:19
PrimoTurboSomeone help me pls...11:19
Razor-XPrimoTurbo: what's the fs type on it?11:19
PrimoTurbontsf11:19
PrimoTurbowindows xp11:20
Razor-XPrimoTurbo: ll hlp u XD11:20
PrimoTurboc:\11:20
narimanis redhat easier to use than ubuntu11:20
Razor-XPrimoTurbo: ntsf?11:20
PrimoTurbothnx :)11:20
PrimoTurboyes11:20
windexntfs.. is read-only in linux, PrimoTurbo. :)11:20
Razor-XXD11:20
Razor-Xsorry, sorry11:20
PrimoTurbothat's fine11:20
narimanwhen it comes to install files and apps11:20
PrimoTurboall I need is read only11:20
stan-amhey razor-x wanna give me a hand?11:20
raven3x7nariman not really imho11:20
other|studywindex: no it's not11:20
Razor-XPrimoTurbo: sudo mount /dev/path/to/drive /mnt/existing/mount/point11:20
stan-amits just a basic script11:20
Brian_Borumaraven3x7 how do i know what my bus identifier is for my Laptop Video11:20
windexother|study: the writing driver causes all kinds of hell.11:20
LasseLPrimoTurbo, /dev/hda1       /media/win_c    ntfs    ro,dmask=0222,fmask=0333 0 011:21
Brian_Borumait is telling me pci:1:5:011:21
Brian_Borumabut i thought it was AGP11:21
other|studywindex: so ;)11:21
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windexother|study: thus i tell everyone it is readonly.11:21
LasseLPrimoTurbo, from my /etc/fstab -- remember to create the folder you mount to and run "sudo mount -a" after you edit the file11:21
stan-amim trying to install Mercury messenger and im getting the following error message "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ClassFormatError: com.dMSN.Main (erroneous class name)"11:21
windexother|study: it automatically prevents people from being dumb by default.11:21
Razor-Xam I the only one that still uses /mnt as mount-points?11:21
stan-amdoes anyone know what im talking about?11:21
telemacoRazor-X: a ) the estable version of my distro now exist (www.molinux.info) and is based in hoary , now i want to begin the next version beezy based , b ) i need sleep and don't work more ... hard week ;)11:21
Razor-Xguess it's legacy still stuck in me ;)11:22
other|studywindex: lol i think you can't prevent that ;)11:22
PrimoTurbohuh this is confusing me do I need to edit any part of Razor-X posted?11:22
windexother|study: I CAN TRY!11:22
PrimoTurbosorry I'm new11:22
other|studylol11:22
windexPrimoTurbo: that depends on many factors that im sure Razor-X would be happy to go over with you.11:22
Brian_BorumaRazor-X can you provide me with some assistance11:22
raven3x7Brian_Boruma, i have never had a laptop unfortunatly. im not sure what bus integrated cards occupy. lcpi might tell you11:22
stan-amim trying to install Mercury messenger and im getting the following error message "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ClassFormatError: com.dMSN.Main (erroneous class name)"11:22
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Brian_Borumai am int the proccess of re configuring my xserver.xorg video setup11:23
stan-amcan anyone help me????11:23
LasseLPrimoTurbo, what Razor-X posted will mount it once. What I posted will mount it automatically when you boot11:23
windexother|study: i'd rather tell them its readonly than tell them it can do either and then have them obliterate their disk.11:23
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PrimoTurboI want it to mount it when I reboot11:23
telemacostan-am: you can use amsn and gaim for msn conections , why don't use one of this ?11:23
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windexother|study: i tried using it rw once for a read-only job (didn't specify flags) and it managed to kill the thing. luckily i had copied all of my important data off of it.11:24
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other|studylol nice11:24
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LasseL!repos11:24
ubotuI guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:24
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streetbmxhello11:24
windexok11:25
PrimoTurboI don't think I have /etc/fstab11:25
Razor-XPrimoTurbo: you do11:25
windexright now is the end of my workday on friday11:25
Brian_Borumado i want to use Kernel framebuffer device11:25
windexeven though i'm self employed.11:25
Razor-XPrimoTurbo: cat /etc/fstab11:25
Brian_Boruma?11:25
Razor-Xwindex: XD11:25
windexso i'll be leaving now, kids. :) thanks for entertaining me.11:25
LasseLPrimoTurbo, "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" from a prompt11:25
vader1102Right now I am drinking a beer windex lol11:25
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Razor-Xfor people who don't understand the Linux partitioning scheme, I encourage you people to _read_11:25
Razor-XXD11:25
PrimoTurbooh i see it's a file11:25
paper-sithrazor-x:  need a little help w/ gnome-app-install.  it will not open11:25
Razor-Xalthough, that's one of those arcane obsolete arts11:26
Razor-Xpaper-sith: gnome-app-install?11:26
Razor-XI don't have Gnome experience *shrugs*11:26
windex|awaysvader1102: yeah but i'd like to be sober if i actually get a customer call. not having a normal day job anymore would make it very easy for me to consider drinking. a lot.11:26
Razor-XPrimoTurbo: there is no such thing as file extensions in Linux11:26
Razor-Xthere's no ``fstab.txt''11:26
streetbmxhow is ubuntu's support for laptops?11:26
Brian_BorumaRazor-X11:26
vader1102windex: lol11:26
Brian_Borumado i want to use Kernel framebuffer device11:26
PrimoTurbonow I know11:26
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Razor-XLinux is extension free, that way you can't confuse a progam by changing the file extension11:26
PrimoTurbothanks11:26
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Razor-Xbenplaut: you have a regexp to cut my hair? ;)11:27
windex|awaysRazor-X: not entirely true, some apps do use extensions, they just don't matter _at all_ in linux.11:27
benplautyup11:27
paper-sithrazor-x:  thanks anyways11:27
Razor-Xwindex|aways: that's why _Linux_ is extension free11:27
benplautyou pay shipping :P11:27
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Razor-Xsome apps do use it11:27
Razor-Xlike .run files11:27
windex|awaysanyway11:27
windex|awaysbuh bye.11:27
Razor-Xor .tar.gz11:27
Razor-Xyeah, see yah windex|aways11:27
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PrimoTurboI need to reboot I guess I edited fstab and added what I was told to11:27
PrimoTurbobrb11:27
Razor-XPrimoTurbo: no, you don't need to reboot11:27
Razor-Xat least, I don't think so11:28
kemikjust mount11:28
LasseLPrimoTurbo, please take the time to read what we write to you11:28
Razor-Xin Linux, you rarely _ever_ need to reboot11:28
PrimoTurboohh11:28
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Razor-Xrebooting is a Windows thing that wastes to much time11:28
PrimoTurboi see my bad11:28
digitalfox|DnDonly time is updating a kernel11:28
Razor-Xs/to/too/11:28
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Razor-Xthe only time I had to reboot after changing something was after I changed my default shell ;)11:29
PrimoTurboso I need to create win_c folder now and then sudo mount -a11:29
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Razor-XPrimoTurbo: yeahp11:29
Brian_BorumaI suck Im going back to windows11:30
Razor-Xthe mount point needs to exits11:30
Razor-XBrian_Boruma: Windows gives me headaches11:30
Razor-X;)11:30
Razor-XI get stuck in Windows, too damn neanderthalic for me11:30
Razor-Xheh11:30
Brian_Borumawell im getting a tumor right now11:30
PrimoTurbocrap how can I make a folder exactly when I left click I don't see any option to do so11:30
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PrimoTurboI am in /media/11:30
Razor-XPrimoTurbo: you ever touched the command line? ;)11:30
Razor-Xsudo mkdir /media/win_c11:30
PrimoTurboyes11:30
kemikPrimoTurbo:  in terminal: mkdir [foldername] 11:30
PrimoTurboalright11:30
PrimoTurborm to remove right11:30
PrimoTurboor is that for files11:31
Razor-Xyeah11:31
kemikyes11:31
Razor-Xcp to copy11:31
kemikrm -rf folder11:31
Razor-Xmv to move11:31
HiddenWolfI've just installed xfce on ubuntu, and I'd like gdm to go straight to xfce without asking for a password. How can i set this?11:31
kemikmv rename11:31
PrimoTurboI see thnx11:31
Razor-Xand thnx isn't an English word ;)11:31
PrimoTurbomv rename or move?11:31
Razor-Xmv == move11:31
kemik(mv is actually move.. but hey, who cares? ;) )11:31
Razor-Xmv _also_ works as rename11:31
PrimoTurboI see11:31
PrimoTurbomv sdas sdfasf11:31
Razor-Xbecause if you move one file to another filename it's renamed11:31
PrimoTurboright?11:31
kemiki guess Razor-X cares :P11:31
Razor-Xyeah, exactly11:31
Razor-Xkemik: I use shells a lot ;011:32
Razor-Xs/;0/;)/11:32
hybrid_gothmv pwns11:32
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kemiki do too :)11:32
PrimoTurbogreat, I finally got it to work :)11:32
PrimoTurbothanks11:32
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ohadwhat is the difference between ubuntu and debian?11:32
PrimoTurboI can't move stuff can I? or it has bad support or something?11:33
kemikPrimoTurbo:  what do you mean?11:33
PrimoTurbolike if I have a mp3 I have on linux and I want to move it to mount11:33
kemikyou can move your own files etc, but i wouldnt move the systemfiles11:33
PrimoTurbothat's not what I mean11:33
PrimoTurboI'm talking about the win_c mount I have11:33
kemikPrimoTurbo:  you cant write to a NTFS partition f.ex11:33
PrimoTurboare you sure cause someone said that I can11:34
kemikif you want to write to your windows partition, you'll have to have windows on a FAT32 partition11:34
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zeryou *can* write to a ntfs-partition...but not create files11:34
PrimoTurboI see11:34
PrimoTurboso I can move a mp3 file11:34
virtuelzer, isn't the ntfs support still so experimental the best advice is "don11:35
virtuel't attempt writing"?11:35
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kemikPrimoTurbo:  no, its not recommended to write to NTFS11:35
PrimoTurboI see, i'll avoid it then11:35
PrimoTurbothanks for you help the 10 people that helped me11:35
zersure, you should avoid to do things like that :)11:35
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JadeRobbinsOMG11:36
JadeRobbinsa guy on the forums helped me get my laptop working11:36
JadeRobbinsi'm so excited i could pee my pants11:36
PrimoTurbonow to get battlefield 2 running11:36
PrimoTurboon linux11:36
kemikJadeRobbins:  dont let us stop you :P11:36
JadeRobbinshar har11:36
Random_Sindromwhich starter bar is better in gnome?11:36
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kemikPrimoTurbo:  is there a linux install for it ? or are you planning to use Cedega?11:36
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PrimoTurboI don't think there is linux support for it but it more or less a joke because the game destroys my system11:39
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lasindiHello, I'm having trouble dual-booting Windows and Kubuntu (I had the same issue with Ubuntu). I installed it, and now when I try to boot Windows, a blue screen pops up for half a second and then the computer restarts.11:39
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PrimoTurboto play it well you need at least 2 gb of ram11:39
PrimoTurbocause it's so poorly coded when compared to other games in similar landscape size like ut2k411:40
lasindiDoes anyone know what's going on?11:40
benplautlasindi: was it a fresh install of Win?11:40
LasseLlasindi, bad news: that will be hard to fix without reinstalling windows. good news: you wont miss it a bit :p11:40
benplautlol11:40
PrimoTurbofdisk /mbr11:40
lasindiSo, I need to reinstall Windows now?11:40
benplaut:/11:41
PrimoTurboyou might have to11:41
lasindibenplaut, not quite. I installed SP1 and upgraded to SP2.11:41
PrimoTurbocheck the error on google maybe it's something u can fix11:41
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LasseLlasindi, that worst thing about it that reinstalling windows will kill your dual-boot configuration11:41
kemikyup.. not worth the hassle lasindi11:41
kemikuse the freespace for linux instead ;)11:42
PrimoTurboyou can't avoid windows 100%11:42
lasindiI'm not quite following ...11:42
Firetechhow can I mount a partition with ISO 8859-1 charset (old data)?11:42
kemikon my wishlist: online-pokerclients for linux!11:42
LasseLlasindi, try pressing F8 (?) during startup and boot into "safe mode"11:42
kemikPrimoTurbo:  why not ?11:42
PrimoTurbobecause gaming is impossible11:42
phixionyeah kemik... trying to get partypoker.com client working :/11:42
PrimoTurbothe preformance is too poor for emulation11:43
kemikphixion:  i've used Expekt.com client with Wine.. missed sound, but worked apart fomr that11:43
PrimoTurbobut it's not 100%11:43
LasseLPrimoTurbo, I agree with you. But not everybody is gamers11:43
PrimoTurbotrue11:43
phixionwell, I'm guessing I need partypoker.com client to work to get on their servers :/11:43
PrimoTurbothat's the only downfall imo11:43
kemikPrimoTurbo:  alot of gamers have used Cedega or Wine with good performance in games11:43
phixioni have wine and cedega, it didnt work on either11:43
PrimoTurbobut it's not as fast as windows11:43
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PrimoTurboso why use something that's slower11:44
kemikPrimoTurbo:  friend of mine even had better performance in WoW using Cedega than windows11:44
lasindiLasseL, same thing happens with safe mode11:44
phixionPrimoTurbo, wrong, some games run faster in Linux11:44
PrimoTurbosome games11:44
PrimoTurbolike quake3 or doom3 i'm guessing11:44
lasindiSo what did I do wrong when I installed Ubuntu?11:44
PrimoTurbobut most games don't run at all so u need to emulate and that is slower11:44
kemikphixion:  threaten to withdraw your money if they dont make a linux-client11:44
LasseLlasindi, hard to say. maybe windows just broke down on you. seen that before11:45
kemikphixion:  what bugs me the most is that the B2B network has a java-based client, but only for windows afaik :///11:45
lasindiLasseL, it only breaks on me when I install ubuntu or kubuntu.11:45
lasindiIt was working perfectly before.11:45
PrimoTurbois there anyway they can add windows support to linux so you could run everything with out emulation or am I so far out that it's stupid11:45
phixionkemik, i only play with play-chips :)11:45
LasseLkemik, a windows only java program -- those are quite rare :)11:45
lasindiWouldn't this have something to do with the boot loader?11:45
kemikphixion:  oh, just try out expekt instead then :)11:46
PrimoTurbolasindi how do you install it?11:46
PrimoTurbodid you make a seperate partition11:46
phixionkemik, i have friends that play on partypoker.com :()11:46
lasindiPrimoTurbo, I had Windows installed on a partition that left about 10 GB of free space on the hard drive.11:46
kemikLasseL:  they've compiled it to .exe files... go figure11:46
OiPenguinAnyone: Error: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.11:46
lasindiin the Ubuntu installer, I had it install on the "remaining free space"11:46
PrimoTurboalright11:46
kemikphixion:  ah i c :/11:46
PrimoTurbowhat is the error you get11:46
PrimoTurboor is it too fast to see it?11:47
LasseLkemik, usually they just compile a launcher and the jar files are still there. You just need to figure out which on to call11:47
PrimoTurbobecause if it's windows xp then it's very rare that windows fucks up by itself when installing linux11:47
PrimoTurbothe only time I've messed up windows when installing linux is partioning from windows11:48
lasindiPrimoTurbo, a blue screen just flashes up and then disappears as it restarts.11:48
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GammaRayI've had it happen two times myself11:48
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shadeofgreyHi guys!11:48
lasindiGammaRay, you've had this same problem?11:48
PrimoTurbodo u have anything important on the windows partition11:48
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kemikLasseL:  belive me, you cant11:49
GammaRayboth times it suddenly cound not find a .dll right after I installed linux on another parimary partition11:49
lasindiNo, but I don't know what I did wrong.11:49
PrimoTurbois it ntsf or fat32?11:49
GammaRaylasindi: dunno.. lemme actually look11:49
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lasindintsf11:49
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PrimoTurbohmm11:49
PrimoTurboit's possible you didn't do anything wrong11:49
shadeofgreyListen I was wondering...  its possible to run windows programs like dreamweaver mx 2004 and mirc on ubuntu sysstems right?  which program should i use to accomplish  this, wine or winex?11:49
PrimoTurbobut some how linux or windows fucked up11:50
kemikLasseL:  Can jag installera pokerns software bde p en PC och en Mac?11:50
kemikNej, pokerns software fungrar bara p PC. Softwaren fungerar inte p Mac eftersom de inte kan hantera Java-program. Detta inkluderar ocks Linux-anvndare. <- i guess you can read that ;)11:50
PrimoTurbolasindi can u read anything on the blue screen?11:50
kemik(of course, they're silly saying that Mac/Linux cant handle JAva-programs.. hehe)11:50
PrimoTurbodo u have a digital camera?11:50
PrimoTurbotry taking a picture if it's too fast11:51
GammaRaylasindi: no I've never had that specific problem.11:51
PrimoTurboso u know what error it is11:51
PrimoTurboBecause it's hard to know what happened unless we know what error you are getting11:51
lasindiPrimoTurbo, let me try again11:51
phixionkemik, i just emailed partypoker :) maybe some compliments thrown their way will help them make a linux based client :)11:51
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LasseLkemik, you know which compiler they use? This: http://www.excelsior-usa.com ?11:52
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bitkromwhat are backports?11:52
Grid_blockhey all just got myselft gnome sudoku 0.2 ... how do i install it?11:52
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Mez!backports11:52
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted11:52
LasseLYes, but what are they11:52
Mezlol11:53
kemikphixion:  one can only hope :)11:53
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MezI assumed tht would exmplain11:53
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kemikLasseL:  no idea11:53
shellhackhey someone I need help I cant see my wmv videos11:53
LasseLand why is the "official" ones better than the old ones11:53
Seveasshellhack: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support11:53
LasseLwhich someone in here had me disable because the "sucked"11:53
SeveasLasseL, because the servers are more reliable11:53
Mezbackports are basically upgrades to current versions11:53
Seveasand the quality of backports has improved a lot since the project started11:53
MezLasseL, ??11:54
shellhacki just cant see it wmv videos11:54
LasseLSeveas, the ftp server is less likely to crash ?11:54
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lasindiPrimoTurbo, no, it's just too fast11:54
SeveasLasseL, they are now on the Ubuntu master servers :)11:54
shellhackseveas: I just need to play wmv format11:54
Mezyes, and also, the fact that they will be building in a buildd means that you can get them on all archs, rather than ones we can get our team to build11:54
Seveasshellhack, then you need to read that page, it explains how to do that11:54
LasseLSeveas, but backports is "stuff from breezy on hoary" ?11:54
SeveasLasseL, correct11:55
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phixionMez, if i add the official backports to my repositories list, would it be wise to sudo apt-get upgrade? oits listing a few files for me to upgrade11:55
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AdmiralSennhey everyone11:55
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Mezphixion, yes, as the official backprots are of a higher quality than the unofficial11:55
LasseLSeveas, and if I don't add them I won't get upgrades? My firefox got upgraded, but that was just a security fix ..11:55
shellhackseveas: thanks11:55
phixionok thanks Mez11:56
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SeveasLasseL, you get all security upgrades if you don't add them...11:56
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imaek[away] Is there a small program that I can use to track the activity on a specific interface?11:56
bitkromare we still using hoary 5.04?11:56
Seveasand regular upgrades only when Ubuntu releases a new version (every 6 months)11:56
PrimoTurbolasindi: It's too bad11:56
pestilenceimaek[away] : tcpdump?11:56
Seveasbitkrom, yes11:56
phixionbrb11:56
pestilenceimaek[away] : ethereal?11:56
PrimoTurbolasindi: You can't access safemode?11:56
ridejibare there any applications i can use to monitor for memory leaks?11:56
MezLasseL, after release, ubuntu only release secuiry updates11:56
PrimoTurbosame error?11:56
Seveasimaek[away] , if you only want bandwith measurements: bwm11:56
lasindiPrimoTurbo, no the same thing happens.11:56
pestilenceridejib: electricfence?11:57
pestilenceridejib: valgrind?11:57
PrimoTurboI see, often happens also11:57
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kemikimaek[away] :  iftraf11:57
imaek[away] ok.11:57
MezLasseL, the backports project solves that by releasing updates that arent neccesarily security updates11:57
PrimoTurboI'm guessing some file or something got messed up for whatever reason11:57
ridejibpestilence: will these report the application causing the problem?11:57
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PrimoTurbomake a mount on ubuntu11:57
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pestilenceridejib: oh, i misunderstood you.  nevermind.11:57
lasindibrb11:57
Landyanyone noticed their laptop seem to run hotter under Linux?11:57
PrimoTurboand get all important files u need11:57
ridejibpestilence: no problem11:57
PrimoTurboand burn them11:58
raven3x7Mez, o"official" backports?11:58
PrimoTurbodo u have a digital camera?11:58
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ridejibLandy: a little, but not anything dangerous11:58
PrimoTurboor even a regular camera11:58
ridejib!bum11:58
PrimoTurboor even video camera11:58
uboturidejib: I don't know, could you explain it?11:58
Mezraven3x7, yes official11:58
Mez!backports11:58
ubotufrom memory, backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted11:58
LasseLSeveas, but what is different from the backports a week ago and the official ones? (except the server change)11:58
PrimoTurboanyway you can capture that error, because you can search google for it and chances are someone has had that issue a million times already11:58
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LasseLa week ago they broke my firefox for several days and I was not a happy camper :)11:59
PrimoTurboalso how did you install ubuntu?11:59
MezLasseL, the difference is the official ones are awknowledged by Ubuntu, and of higher quality11:59
Mezwhereas the unofficial may cause breakages etc11:59
lasindiback11:59
Landyridejib, so I wasn't imagining it then. My T23 runs fairly warm, getting some thinkpad tools to hopefully check its temp maybe11:59
Seveass/may/will11:59
PrimoTurbolasindi: Tell me exactly how u installed it, because I just did it myself and my windows xp works fine11:59
LasseLso it is not the same stuff with a new nametag ?11:59
raven3x7Mez cool11:59
ericzanyone know on average how long it takes for ubuntu install cd's to ship when you order them from shipit.ubuntulinux.org or whatever12:00
Seveasnew nametag and better quality :)12:00
MezLasseL, yes and no12:00

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