[12:00] <salil> anyone who can help me install bluetooth adapter..?
[12:00] <apokryphos> salil: heh, still, eh?
[12:00] <Firetech> I have a Bluetooth dongle...
[12:00] <azik> Firetech, uhm, then near 60MB/s... my hard disk  don't go so fast :)
[12:00] <salil> apokryphos: yes.
[12:00] <salil> apokryphos: nevin has left..
[12:00] <salil> apokryphos: so i'm stranded now
[12:00] <LiNoH> i'd like to know if after install i can normally use "sudo" to run root programs
[12:01] <azik> perhaps is the disk a bottleneck?
[12:01] <BirdFish> Hi, how would I go about making a panel completely invisible?  When I set the visibility, it still shows a bar on each side.
[12:01] <sun_> hi is there a way to keep gdm from starting when ubuntu boots
[12:01] <Firetech> another question: is ti possible to "rename" (disk name) a FAT partition from linux?
[12:01] <tucoz> LasseL, thanks a lot. Works like a charm
[12:01] <hollywoodb> salil: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34740 *might* help
[12:01] <salil> apokryphos: do you know how to install bluetooth adapter..?
[12:01] <jowi> LiNoH, you should. you can add users to /etc/sudoers
[12:01] <salil> hollywoodb: thanks.. i'll try
[12:01] <apokryphos> salil: no idea I'm afraid -- never used it
[12:03] <cadu> xorg has better performance than xfree?
[12:03] <cadu> :")
[12:03] <cadu> sun_: remove it from your default runlevel
[12:03] <jazzanova> i am using uxterm. how do i select a larger size utf8 font ?
[12:03] <xulin> nanuit
[12:04] <jazzanova> how can i find out the font that uxterm uses now, by default ?
[12:05] <jowi> jazzanova, if you are using gnome you should look under prefs->font (sorry for being unspecifig, no gnome started here)
[12:05] <Derkommissar> i want a terminal for x that would not hug up as much as the gnome-terminal does... but that would give me funtions like copy-n-paste and scroll back,,, something as ligth as xterm but with the basic features
[12:05] <jazzanova> i am not using gnome
[12:05] <jowi> jazzanova, what are you using?
[12:05] <hollywoodb> Derkommissar: i always liked rxvt & aterm
[12:05] <jazzanova> i am using ratpoison
[12:06] <jazzanova> i want the font that i need to give to -fn option for uxterm
[12:06] <LiNoH> jowi, thanks
[12:06] <jazzanova> the font is this long ugly string.  which part of it says that it is a utf8 font ?
[12:06] <godzirra_> Seveas: are you here?
[12:06] <LiNoH> but i had problem with my last ubuntu install
[12:07] <LiNoH> i couldnt run programs with sudo
[12:07] <linukso> Derkommissar: rxvt-unicode is great!
[12:07] <sun_> is there a program which can record audio off my microphone?
[12:07] <LiNoH> aind i didn't know root pass
[12:07] <Derkommissar> cool
[12:07] <godzirra_> Seveas: I was told to ask you about splashimages with grub.  For some reason I can get mine to work at the grub command prompt, but not when actually booting up.
[12:07] <Derkommissar> gonna download it
[12:07] <jazzanova> sun: arecord
[12:07] <cybernightlife> LiNoH:  This is the reason I installed Ubuntu with the expert mode.
[12:08] <hollywoodb> jazzanova: xfontsel/quit
[12:08] <mpmc> not very busy in here is it tonight?
[12:08] <LiNoH> cybernightlife, i didn't see default or expert in instalation
[12:09] <LiNoH> does somebody know an IRC chat with ubuntu support in portuguese?
[12:09] <LiNoH> i dont speak english very well
[12:09] <mpmc> Linoh: try /list
[12:09] <dtorg21> #ndiswrapper
[12:09] <LiNoH> hum..
[12:09] <jazzanova> hollywoodb: so what it is supposed to do when i quit ?
[12:09] <cybernightlife> LiNoH:  When you start your PC with the Ubuntu CD-ROM in the drive, you will get the boot prompt.
[12:09] <sun_> how do you launch xorg from the cmd line? ie is it just startx as usual?
[12:10] <cybernightlife> To get there, type "expert" to start expert mode.
[12:10] <LiNoH> cybernightlife, hum..
[12:10] <LiNoH> thanks
[12:10] <cybernightlife> You're welcome.
[12:10] <jazzanova> is the 'u' in the encoding, at the end of the font name, stand for utf ?
[12:10] <LiNoH> when it was "boot:"
[12:11] <LiNoH> cybernightlife, how i install with expert mode? whats the difference?
[12:11] <holycow> more questions
[12:11] <brian__> ok im back
[12:11] <brian__> had a house call
[12:11] <brian__> terrible stuff
[12:11] <cybernightlife> LiNoH:  Expert mode gives you control over most aspects of your Ubuntu installation.
[12:11] <holycow> windows again  brian__ ?
[12:11] <brian__> yeah they were all runnin winblows
[12:12] <hybrid_goth> lol
[12:12] <jowi> brian__, all of them? how many are you talking about?! lol
[12:12] <cybernightlife> Including the root password.  The root account is disabled in the default installation, but not with expert mode.
[12:12] <holycow> brian__, i've had a similar reaction in those situations
[12:12] <holycow> i now litterally hate having to run and fix windows
[12:12] <holycow> not for any elitist reason, it makes me money and thats good
[12:12] <brian__> i had a voicemail when i got back
[12:13] <holycow> i think i'm just spoiled on linux
[12:13] <hybrid_goth> holycow: fixing other ppls over then fone sux
[12:13] <brian__> the lady said her kids put a broken cd in th e "cd changer" and the pieces fell into the modem
[12:13] <holycow> hybrid_goth, i don't mind that, i litterally just hate having to sit down and try to fix that useless pos.
[12:13] <brian__> lmao
[12:13] <holycow> its an endless cycle of virus scans, spyware scans, reboots
[12:13] <popey> my sisters daughters have ballsed up their windows pc
[12:13] <popey> i have to fix it
[12:13] <holycow> reboots into 'safe mode'
[12:14] <popey> it's so tiresome
[12:14] <holycow> reboots into normal mode
[12:14] <aarcane> holycow, too much Linux is a bad thing..  it gets you accustomed to things just working, which is not at all like the reality of computers using Windows and Mac...
[12:14] <brian__> yeah all runnin comcraps in the house
[12:14] <popey> it wont boot
[12:14] <holycow> install driver, reboot
[12:14] <linukso> Hi! I see that ubuntu-backports and extras are in the official archives.
[12:14] <holycow> it takes forever to get anything done
[12:14] <brian__> and all had unbelievable amounts of SHIT
[12:14] <godzirra_> Anyone have any experience with splashimages in grub?
[12:14] <brian__> it was almost as if they purposely clicked on every po-up they got
[12:14] <mpmc> holycow: Windoze.. is easy to mess up...
[12:14] <holycow> aarcane, and i honestly am not a zealot in the sense that i'm being snooty, its just a lot easier to run linux
[12:14] <mpmc> windows 95 is even easier!
[12:14] <holycow> mpmc, *nod*
[12:15] <aarcane> holycow, totally true
[12:15] <Andares> Hi.
[12:15] <Andares> Is there some lib called "gl"?
[12:15] <brian__> i wish i could say that
[12:15] <aarcane> holycow, although I am a zealout..
[12:15] <Andares> Because I CANT FIND IT
[12:15] <brian__> I will be able to soon
[12:15] <aarcane> Andares, nope..  shouldn't be a lib called that.  it's a 3D hardware thing
[12:15] <brian__> im just going to pretend I dont have windows xp and even if I did i wouldnt know how to crack it
[12:15] <esac> ok seriously, has anybody gotten evolution to work with a microsoft exchange server ?
[12:15] <holycow> aarcane, well i admit to being labeled that :) ehe, if it wasn't made by ms but some other company, it would still suck just as much i mean
[12:16] <LiNoH> cybernightlife, hum..  but the install is similar? and it is difficult to beginning users?
[12:16] <brian__> my main thing is being able to run my fav game
[12:16] <brian__> thats all
[12:16] <poningru> I had a question why isnt nautilus fully explorer like?
[12:16] <SprflyZapp> anyone know of a linux app that plays wmv files??
[12:16] <poningru> by default
[12:17] <brian__> i even bought cedega last night but have no idea what to do with the installs
[12:17] <holycow> brian__, hey, if you gotta run windows,  you gotta
[12:17] <holycow> nothin wrong with that
[12:17] <brian__> NO
[12:17] <Kamzi> flyzapp: realplayer for linux mite  if u can get the plugins
[12:17] <holycow> i still gotta fire up dreamweaver on win2k on vmware because quanta is very very crashy
[12:17] <frank> poningru: that is what I hate most about gnome. and also why i like kde. the file manager
[12:17] <brian__> dont say things like that
[12:17] <brian__> ever again
[12:17] <holycow> lol
[12:17] <holycow> :)
[12:17] <salil> anyone who can help me with installing bluetooth adapter??
[12:17] <jazzanova> in xfontsel i can see that i only have one unicode font
[12:17] <brian__> :P
[12:18] <holycow> welcome
[12:18] <holycow> :)
[12:18] <holycow> haha
[12:18] <jazzanova> where i download more fonts ?
[12:18] <poningru> frank: you probably havent tried it to the fullest
[12:18] <frank> SprflyZapp: all the media players work with wmv. You need w32codecs
[12:18] <frank> poningru: most likely not
[12:18] <brian__> tx
[12:18] <cybernightlife> LiNoH:  Yes, it is similar, and it is just a matter of reading the screens and answering questions.  When in doubt, use the defaults.
[12:18] <holycow> jazzanova, well the internet is generaly a good start
[12:18] <Kamzi> salil: u wanna install a usb bluetooth dondle in linux ?
[12:18] <holycow> -_-
[12:18] <SprflyZapp> does totem?
[12:18] <brian__> ;)
[12:18] <poningru> do you see an address bar? a zoom level etc.?
[12:18] <salil> yes
[12:18] <jazzanova> holycow: no debian package ?
[12:18] <roodee> can anyone tell me how to install AMULE?
[12:18] <Kamzi> salil: try good ol  google
[12:18] <cybernightlife> As for ease of use, Ubuntu installation is very similar IMO to the text mode Red Hat (Fedora) install.\
[12:18] <jazzanova> i want a standard font for uxterm
[12:18] <holycow> jazzanova, theres really no such thing as free fonts
[12:18] <salil> Kamzi: yes
[12:18] <deprave-> anyone know where i can snag a different skin for bmp?
[12:19] <jazzanova> that is slightly bigger than default
[12:19] <brian__> i just want to have "control" over my OS and "MY" computer
[12:19] <holycow> fonts are usually for pay, unless they suck
[12:19] <Kamzi> roodee: do  mean emule ?
[12:19] <fabio> hola
[12:19] <SprflyZapp> yeah there is free fonts
[12:19] <brian__> not bill gates runnin my shit
[12:19] <holycow> in which case you can try the terrible free fonts
[12:19] <frank> roodee: its in universe. Install with synaptic
[12:19] <salil> Kamzi: i did.. lot of stuff there.. but. too much of a mess...
[12:19] <holycow> or you can buy adobe font folio
[12:19] <frank> Kamzi: its amule
[12:19] <mpmc> for fonts try www.dafonts.com
[12:19] <fabio> necesito conf el aptitude y nose como alguien me ayuda
[12:19] <spet2134> aloco
[12:19] <spet2134> q issu???
[12:19] <python_> yes deprave : type "gnome look" into google
[12:19] <roodee> i am an newbe
[12:19] <holycow> you can use all adobe truetype fonts, by simply putting them into your ~/user/.font folder
[12:19] <spet2134>  ingreis?????
[12:19] <SprflyZapp> or google the word open source fonts
[12:19] <frank> fabio: spanish -> #ubuntu-es
[12:19] <cybernightlife> ...and is no more difficult to install than Windows XP, only you save the massive licensing fees  :-)
[12:19] <Kamzi> salil: what make, model try the companys website sometimes you can be surprised
[12:19] <roodee> the online help did not work well
[12:19] <brian__> roodee join the club
[12:19] <spet2134> awwawawawawawawawaw
[12:19] <fabio> ok
[12:20] <roodee> how do i do that?
[12:20] <brian__> well the main thing is getting to know the termonology
[12:20] <spet2134> q merda
[12:20] <jazzanova> i want a font 9x15 but with utf8
[12:20] <spet2134> isso aqui!!!
[12:20] <spet2134> caca
[12:20] <holycow> cybernightlife, and the indignity of 'having to register'
[12:20] <salil> Kamzi: i only have that dmesg gave me..  HCI USB driver ver 2.7
[12:20] <frank> !addingrepositories
[12:20] <ubotu> I don't know, frank
[12:20] <brian__> then what you read in help forums you will be able to somewhat comprehend
[12:20] <holycow> every time i haveto go through the xp c
[12:20] <cybernightlife> holycow:  Especially that!
[12:20] <roodee> aha
[12:20] <frank> !repositories
[12:20] <ubotu> I heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos
[12:20] <cybernightlife> and that so called "activation code".
[12:21] <anders__> have some got the new windows ??
[12:21] <holycow> activation process i feel like i've been released for aushcwitz but now i have a leg tracking device
[12:21] <frank> roodee: check that link to activate universe
[12:21] <jazzanova> holycow: i want to use a system font, that is 9x15 but with unicode. is there such ?
[12:21] <dtorg21> Anyone able to help with wireless?
[12:21] <Kamzi> salil: being n00b i am g ive me 2 secs to find usumthin
[12:21] <brian__> WGA?
[12:21] <brian__> lol
[12:21] <jazzanova> the misc package has a font like that, with alias 9x15
[12:21] <brian__> yeah i ran it the minute it came out
[12:21] <salil> Kamzi: thanks
[12:21] <holycow> jazzanova, i've never used unicode fonts, and don't even know where to download those ...
[12:21] <brian__> got nailed
[12:21] <jazzanova> they should be part of the system
[12:21] <anders__> hehe
[12:21] <ramblingturtle> having a problem with installing gstreamer plugins it says unmet dependencies and when i try with -f that dosn't help any suggestions
[12:21] <jazzanova> i just don't know how to reference them
[12:22] <anders__> whos is running?
[12:22] <jazzanova> holycow: what is your locale ?
[12:22] <mpmc> where can I get a client like shareaza for linux?
[12:22] <azik> mpmc try amule
[12:22] <holycow> good question, anyone know how you check the locale of the system?
[12:22] <jazzanova> echo $LANG
[12:22] <mpmc> with all networks
[12:23] <Kamzi> 	salil: giime a min i need to logout and back in again
[12:23] <holycow> en_CA.UTF-8
[12:23] <jowi> jazzanova, i think that charset is the command you are looking for btw. but i have not used it myself.
[12:23] <holycow> danke jazzanova
[12:23] <holycow> jazzanova, love the nick btw :)
[12:23] <salil> Kamzi: sure..
[12:23] <jazzanova> :)
[12:23] <mpmc> like Gnutella,emule,bittorrent...
[12:23] <jazzanova> ok, so you are on utf8 too
[12:23] <holycow> jazzanova, your nick sounds like a snooty inside joke by a jazz musician
[12:23] <rgould> Is it possible to hook up a PDF driver to the printer system?
[12:23] <rgould> so I can print to a PDF file, that is
[12:24] <jazzanova> i want to increase the font to a size a bitlarger than default one when one runs xterm. i use uxterm, because it has utf8 support.
[12:24] <cybernightlife> rgould:  You only need to configure Ghostscript to output to PDF.
[12:24] <azik> rgould, print to ps, then, ps2pdf file.ps :)
[12:24] <rgould> hmm
[12:25] <ramblingturtle> having a problem with installing gstreamer plugins it says unmet dependencies and when i try with -f that dosn't help any suggestions
[12:25] <azik> cybernightlife, how you configure it?
[12:25] <fabio> #ubuntu-es
[12:25] <fabio> servidor ubuntu spaol
[12:26] <brian__> ok my friend ordered me a sub from wegmans
[12:26] <brian__> anyway
[12:26] <cybernightlife> azik:  It is just a matter of redirecting output to device "pdfwrite".
[12:26] <roodee> what do i do after checking universe?
[12:26] <cybernightlife> at the time you call Ghostscript directly.\
[12:27] <brian__> chickenfinger BBQ/ and chickenfinger Buff style
[12:27] <brian__> 1/2 and 1/2
[12:27] <brian__> good chit
[12:27] <mpmc> does anyone know any good p2p client!
[12:27] <roodee> amule
[12:27] <roodee> but i can make it work...
[12:27] <mpmc> with the other networks
[12:27] <mpmc> like Gnutella
[12:27] <roodee> but i cant make it work...
[12:27] <mpmc> etc
[12:28] <jasoncohen> ramblingturtle, what are the unmet dependencies? paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin
[12:28] <brian__> ok so listen I have cedega TGZ and cedega DEB which do i want for ubuntu
[12:28] <jowi> rgould, easiest way is to install cups-pdf package
[12:28] <sun_> hi arecord and other sound recording progs dont pick up any sound; aumix has my mic vol up 100%, what shoudl i do?
[12:28] <ramblingturtle> jasconcohen: will do
[12:29] <mpmc> P2P??
[12:29] <brian__> HELLO???
[12:29] <Kamzi333> salil ?
[12:29] <brian__> I have cedega TGZ and cedega DEB which do i want for ubuntu
[12:29] <sun_> brian__ deb
[12:29] <brian__> sun_ thank you
[12:29] <azik> cybernightlife, is there any form to do it with cups?
[12:29] <rgould> jowi, I just discovered that, thanks. I am trying to figure out how to make it work.
[12:30] <brian__> do i want to open it with archive manager
[12:30] <ramblingturtle> jasconcohen: post under name ramblingturtle
[12:30] <brian__> ?
[12:30] <sun_> how do i get sound recording to work, mic is at 100% but no sound coming into arecord
[12:30] <rgould> Ah! I think I have it.
[12:30] <brian__> or can i run from terminal
[12:30] <jowi> brian__, no. you install it with "dpkg -i cedega........deb" if it does not come with an installer
[12:31] <jazzanova> sun: make sure it is enabled (the mic)
[12:31] <Kamzi333> Salil; are you there ?
[12:31] <jowi> rgould, congrats :-)
[12:31] <jasoncohen> ramblingturtle, give me the url
[12:31] <sun_> jazzanova how do i check if its enabled?
[12:31] <jazzanova> in alsaconf
[12:31] <jazzanova> make sure it doesn't say Off
[12:31] <ramblingturtle> jasoncohen: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/807
[12:31] <brian__> thanks, am i running that from root term or term?
[12:32] <brian__> im such a newb'
[12:32] <jowi> brian__, root-term works fine. if you are running from a normal term you just put "sudo" in front of your commands
[12:33] <jasoncohen> ramblingturtle, and your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:33] <CapSoft> lo folks
[12:33] <CapSoft> noob question
[12:33] <CapSoft> i have a win xp pro client in the network
[12:33] <CapSoft> with a ltp printer (brand: HP)
[12:33] <CapSoft> can i print on that from ubuntu?
[12:33] <cybernightlife> azik:  I know that can be done, I am researching this topic.  What I do know is that KDE does allow direct to PDF output, and that it does not use CUPS to accomplish this.
[12:34] <roodee> how do i install amule?
[12:34] <cybernightlife> CapSoft:  Which model of HP printer are you using?
[12:34] <jasoncohen> ramblingturtle, you need to have universe enabled
[12:34] <jasoncohen> ramblingturtle, though i don't see how you can see gstreamer0.8-plugins but not the other plugins in universe
[12:34] <CapSoft> deskjet 940C if i remember correctly cybernightlife
[12:34] <CapSoft> roodee, i use mldonkey
[12:34] <ramblingturtle> jasoncohen: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/808
[12:34] <cybernightlife> You should be able to use that printer with Ubuntu.
[12:35] <brian__> its telling me i need superuser privledges
[12:35] <roodee> i can install that too... ?
[12:35] <brian__> privleges*
[12:35] <MartenH> brian__: sudo ...
[12:35] <roodee> i CANT install that too... ?
[12:35] <CapSoft> cybernightlife, through lan?
[12:35] <jowi> brian__, sudo dpkg -i cedega.x.x.x.x.deb (then enter your password when asked)
[12:35] <CapSoft> while it is connected to windows?
[12:35] <brian__> thanks
[12:35] <azik> cybernightlife thanks
[12:36] <cybernightlife> CapSoft:  Absolutely.
[12:36] <MartenH> brian__: any command needing extended privileges should be prefixed with sudo (superuser do)
[12:36] <cybernightlife> azik:  You're welcome.
[12:36] <roodee> do i have to install other packages to tun mldonkay
[12:36] <brian__> you guys are the chit!
[12:36] <cybernightlife> CapSoft:  Simply configure CUPS to use Samba.
[12:36] <jasoncohen> ramblingturtle, lol, according to this you have no main
[12:36] <CapSoft> cups should use samba?
[12:36] <jasoncohen> just universe and multiverse
[12:36] <salil> Kamzi: hey.. i installed it..
[12:36] <MartenH> brian__: lol, bout as new as you :)
[12:36] <CapSoft> :S i am a noob...
[12:36] <cybernightlife> and then to use the HPIJS driver.
[12:36] <salil> Kamzi: :D
[12:36] <jowi> brian__, so will you be with some practice man
[12:36] <ramblingturtle> jasoncohen: let me check that
[12:37] <jeanluc> hey can some one help me play mp3s?
[12:37] <CapSoft> how can i configure cups?
[12:37] <jeanluc> they don't work in ubuntu
[12:37] <brian__> Selecting previously deselected package cedega.
[12:37] <brian__> (Reading database ... 58106 files and directories currently installed.)
[12:37] <brian__> Unpacking cedega (from .../Desktop/cedega_4.4-1_i386.deb) ...
[12:37] <brian__> Setting up cedega (4.4-1) ...
[12:37] <CapSoft> jeanluc, sure... xmms?
[12:37] <jeanluc> ya
[12:37] <brian__> then it just stops
[12:37] <fabio> espaol
[12:37] <cybernightlife> Ubuntu should have a utility to configure printers.
[12:37] <ramblingturtle> jasoncohen: let me post that again
[12:37] <jeanluc> capsoft I have xmms I don't think I have the codec though.
[12:37] <fabio> spanish ?
[12:37] <CapSoft> it's default there if i remember correctly
[12:38] <jazzanova> what is scalable font ? is this fixed width ?
[12:38] <jeanluc> the mp3 will play
[12:38] <brian__> hmm
[12:38] <jeanluc> but no sound
[12:38] <brian__> im lost now
[12:38] <cybernightlife> Yes, you can also type in http://localhost:631/ to get to CUPS administration.
[12:38] <brian__> well i was lost
[12:38] <brian__> now im loster
[12:38] <cybernightlife> from any web browser.
[12:38] <brian__> :P
[12:38] <salil> Kamzi: you there ..??
[12:38] <mpmc> how do I install java?
[12:38] <goldfish> !mounting
[12:38] <ubotu> Wish i knew, goldfish
[12:38] <goldfish> !mount
[12:38] <ubotu> hmm... mount is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:39] <fabio> aaaaaalguien me pesca ?
[12:39] <brian__> i wouldnt be using linux if i actually used words like "loster"
[12:39] <azik> cybernightlife, i find http://cip.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de/~vrbehr/cups-pdf/, something to try about it
[12:39] <CapSoft> cybernightlife, i clicked on system
[12:39] <brian__> but i do need halp
[12:39] <CapSoft> and then management
[12:39] <fabio> buuuuu  alguien me ayuda
[12:39] <CapSoft> printing
[12:39] <cybernightlife> azik:  Thanks.
[12:39] <CapSoft> and then a new printer
[12:39] <mpmc> !search java
[12:39] <ubotu> mpmc: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[12:39] <CapSoft> with tab connection i did network printing
[12:39] <mpmc> !java
[12:39] <azik>  apt-cache search cups-pdf
[12:39] <azik> cups-pdf - PDF Writer backend for CUPS
[12:39] <ubotu> somebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[12:39] <concept10> Anyone succesful with scaning in Ubuntu?  I have an HP OfficeJect 6110 All in one - it says its not detected
[12:39] <azik> haha
[12:39] <azik> xD
[12:39] <CapSoft> but what's wrong with windows printing?
[12:40] <salil> Kamzi: ??
[12:40] <brian__> Selecting previously deselected package cedega.
[12:40] <cybernightlife> concept10:  Are you using the HPLIP or HPOJ drivers?
[12:40] <brian__> Unpacking cedega (from .../Desktop/cedega_4.4-1_i386.deb) ...
[12:40] <azik> try it cybernightlife  ;)
[12:40] <brian__> (Reading database ... 58106 files and directories currently installed.)
[12:40] <Spud_> hi im havin a tough time installing my nvidia driver
[12:40] <brian__> Selecting previously deselected package cedega.
[12:40] <brian__> then doesnt do anything else
[12:40] <jowi> brian__, installation should be complete. here is a howto you should read on how to install games and to run them: http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Cedega_4.2.1-1_howto
[12:41] <Spud_> it says i have to stop the x server and kill any opengl programs that are running
[12:41] <procrastinator> Does anyone in here have experiences with an Motorola Surfboard SB4100 under Ubuntu?
[12:41] <admx> Hi, I'm think about buying a HP 2550L  Laser Printer do you think there will be any problem using it with Ubuntu 5.04?
[12:41] <admx> 
[12:41] <CapSoft> procrastinator,
[12:41] <CapSoft> why?
[12:41] <mpmc> !java
[12:41] <ubotu> java is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[12:42] <mpmc> I cant access that page!
[12:42] <jasoncohen> !repositories
[12:42] <ubotu> I heard repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos
[12:42] <jasoncohen> !repos
[12:42] <ubotu> I guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:42] <funkyHat> procrastinator, is that a ethernet/usb cable modem?
[12:42] <procrastinator> CapSoft: Because my sister has signed with an ISP that wants her to use it
[12:42] <jasoncohen> hmm, what's the pastebin with the full repositories?
[12:42] <CapSoft> ok but most of the time, procrastinator, you only have to fill in stuff
[12:42] <funkyHat> jasoncohen, you can add them by ticking boxes in synaptic
[12:42] <funkyHat> try it
[12:42] <CapSoft> like macaddress
[12:43] <CapSoft> or hostname
[12:43] <procrastinator> CapSoft: And tomorrow I'm going to her to set up her new GNU/Linux box
[12:43] <procrastinator> funkyHat: yes
[12:43] <Spud_> anyone able to help me install an nvidia driver?
[12:43] <jasoncohen> funkyHat, i know, i've never liked the synaptic method. i'm asking for other users
[12:43] <procrastinator> CapSoft: Ok, could you be a bit more specific?
[12:43] <CapSoft> well what provider is it?
[12:44] <funkyHat> procrastinator, i have one (or similar surfboard). never had any issues, using the ethernet only
[12:44] <CapSoft> most of the time they provide an install document for windows with it
[12:44] <procrastinator> Capsoft: Cause as soon as I get to her place, there's no internet before I've set up the modem ;)
[12:44] <CapSoft> you can follow the same steps, only act a bit diferent
[12:44] <thechitowncubs> procrastinator: i have that modem
[12:44] <funkyHat> procrastinator, plug the modem into the ethernet, it works
[12:44] <CapSoft> indeed
[12:44] <CapSoft> most of the time it does
[12:44] <thechitowncubs> the USB is a waste
[12:44] <procrastinator> CapSoft: Okay...
[12:44] <Spud_> allright ill check back later
[12:44] <CapSoft> i only had to put in a hostname
[12:45] <CapSoft> if i put in a hostname my provider gave me.. i get an ip from dhcp autmatically
[12:45] <procrastinator> Oh, I didn't realize that it was possible to avoid the USB...
[12:45] <cybernightlife> I better get going myself.  Check in later.
[12:45] <puterfixer> USB sucks, basically your operating system will create a virtual network interface in software instead of using a hardware network card, and that software emulation eats up resources and is not too stable/mature either
[12:46] <funkyHat> and i couldn't get that to work either
[12:46] <funkyHat> i tried when i was trying to set up internet connection sharing
[12:46] <funkyHat> i gave up and got a router instead :P
[12:46] <puterfixer> smart thinking :)
[12:47] <procrastinator> How about port forwarding on it? How's that?
[12:48] <procrastinator> Or is the no protection in it whatsoever, before I buy a router for her?
[12:49] <salil> Kamzi: you there.?
[12:49] <funkyHat> procrastinator, there is no protection, your box will be directly connected to the internet
[12:49] <puterfixer> if it's a simple modem, then it's just like a media convertor, doesn't have any routing features hence no forwarding or firewall-like protection
[12:49] <procrastinator> funkyHat: Ok.
[12:50] <brian__> can someone tell me why im getting this message?
[12:50] <brian__> cannot find '/mnt/cdrom0/setup.exe'
[12:50] <brian__> or when i try cannot find '/mnt/cdrom/setup.exe'
[12:50] <nevin> brian__: what are you doing to get the message?
[12:50] <brian__> and change cdrom to cdrom0
[12:50] <procrastinator> puterfixer: Well, vendors have a tendency to put their crappy security soft/hardware all over products
[12:50] <procrastinator> ;)
[12:50] <brian__> tryin to use cedega to install unreal
[12:51] <puterfixer> I know :(
[12:51] <Randall64> ah, crap
[12:51] <nevin> brian__: cedega probably thinks the cdrom drive is mounted under /mnt, but under ubuntu, its under /media
[12:52] <nevin> brian__: you're going to need to reconfigure cedega to reflect this
[12:52] <brian__> lol
[12:52] <brian__> thats sounds easy
[12:52] <CapSoft> its /cdrom
[12:52] <brian__> which is it?
[12:52] <procrastinator> But thank you all, you put a rest on all my worries - at first I thought it was only USB =)
[12:52] <CapSoft> what i just said
[12:53] <CapSoft> uhm one moment
[12:53] <nevin>  /cdrom is a link to /media/cdrom
[12:53] <CapSoft> its indeed /media/cdrom0 or cdrom1
[12:54] <esac> how do i enable ssh access to my system ?
[12:54] <MartenH> where do I find gnome themes?
[12:54] <esac> www.gnome-look.org ?
[12:55] <CapSoft> do /etc/init.rd/sshd start
[12:55] <nevin> esac: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[12:55] <cato_> something is kind of weird with my xorg.conf .. It seems it wont use the ATI OpenGL library.. my config is posted here: http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=20267#20267      It would be awesome if anyone of you could overlook it and tell me if anything is wrong.. :\ (my system still uses the damn MesaGL library)
[12:55] <danielrr> hi all
[12:55] <danielrr> having no luck installing Ubuntu
[12:55] <MartenH> esac: ty
[12:56] <brian__> /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/bin/wine: cannot find '/mnt/media/cdrom/setup.exe'
[12:56] <ColonelKernel> rofl still banned for nothing in #fedora - good thing too, otherwise i never would have found ubuntu
[12:56] <nevin> brian__: you need to get rid or the /mnt part of the path
[12:56] <funkyHat> brian__, it's /media/cdrom0
[12:56] <funkyHat> no /mnt
[12:56] <nevin> NO, media
[12:57] <salil> nevin: i did manage to install the bluetooth software.. but.. the phone manager asks for a passcode.. what do i give there... any ideas..??
[12:57] <nevin> danielrr: what's causing your troubles
[12:58] <nevin> salil: did you set any such passcode in your phone?  I assume you're using this to interface with your mobile
[12:58] <salil> no
[12:59] <nevin> salil: no to which part? passcode, or for your mobile?
[12:59] <brian__> OMG IM INSTALLING UREAL TOURNAMENT
[12:59] <salil> nevin: i want to pair my phone with the computer
[12:59] <brian__> Ive got wood
[12:59] <salil> nevin: no i didn't set passcode
[12:59] <cato_> Im sorry if im being unpolite by asking again, but did anyone check out my xorg.conf posted in the transgaming forum?
[12:59] <apokryphos> cato_: what's the problem?
[12:59] <nevin> salil: snoop around your phone's bluetooth settings for this to see if there's a passcode to be set
[01:00] <brian__> now before i go and mess everything up
[01:00] <brian__> should i just let it install naturally?
[01:00] <brian__> im staring at the unreal setup window
[01:00] <salil> nevin: the thing is.. both the pc and the phone ask for the passcode.. and you have to give the same passcode at both the places.. but here..the pc didn't ask for passcode.. only the phone did
[01:00] <cato_> apokryphos, im having trouble with my ati drivers and opengl library.. it seems it always loads the mesagl library, i've followed the steps for the newest drivers from ati.. but to no avail, im wondering if my xorg.conf is bad or something
[01:00] <danielrr> Neven well I am on my fouth try installing and it hats in the same placehere is the error I get:Setting up gstreamer0.8-flac/var/lib/dpkg/info/gstreamer0.8-flac.postinst: line 8: 15917 Segmentation fault gst-register-0.8 --gst-debug-level=0 >/dev/null
[01:01] <cato_> apokryphos, my config is posted here: http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=20267#20267
[01:01] <DukGalNamu> someone please type my nick
[01:01] <apokryphos> cato_: why not use Ubuntu's drivers?
[01:01] <cato_> apokryphos, they wont allow me to play games with cedega
[01:01] <nevin> danielrr: I got that error with a bad disk
[01:01] <brian__> OK please listen
[01:01] <cato_> apokryphos, and i'm told they are like 4 releases old
[01:01] <DukGalNamu> anyone?
[01:01] <DukGalNamu> please?
[01:02] <brian__> it is giving me a path of C:/unrealtournament
[01:02] <danielrr> well i am on my second (pressed copy)
[01:02] <nevin> DukGalNamu?
[01:02] <salil> DukGalNamu: what's wrong?
[01:02] <brian__> should I leave that?
[01:02] <apokryphos> cato_: so old? I wouldn't know -- I use AVI. Though the problem isn't likely with your xorg.conf, but rather with the installation of the driver
[01:02] <DukGalNamu> hmm
[01:02] <cato_> apokryphos, i've also tried usinig the "new installer" thingie, but that didnt work either.. it always uses the damn MesaGL library
[01:02] <nevin> dnaiel: yes
[01:02] <DukGalNamu> nevin: it was supposed to play a song when you did that
[01:02] <nevin> salil: I'm assuming you have set a passcode previously?
[01:02] <wolarsen> hi ppl. i ve got very strange problem. i have download ubuntu iso, burn it to cd-r, but i cant boot! ( i have lost 2 cdr :-\ )
[01:02] <isai> is there a cmd line md5 app to generate off string?
[01:02] <cato_> apokryphos, did you look at it? does it look ok? right modules loaded and so on?
[01:02] <brian__> use nero
[01:02] <brian__> burn image
[01:02] <salil> nevin: i used to pair it in windows
[01:02] <brian__> works better
[01:02] <MartenH> I've downloaded an icon set... where does it go?
[01:02] <wolarsen> yes. i used nero ...
[01:03] <danielrr> neven should i tryanother diek?
[01:03] <salil> nevin: but the phone is now formatted.. and all the old settings are gone..
[01:03] <nevin> salil: does anything work if you enter it?
[01:03] <timbabwe> Having some issues with Samba
[01:03] <cato_> apokryphos, i used these steps for the driver: http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=19795#19795
[01:03] <holycow> wolarsen, did you burn an image? or burn the files to a data disk?
[01:03] <salil> nevin: nothing works..
[01:03] <MartenH> wolarsen: did you use burn inage or just burned the file?
[01:03] <apokryphos> cato_: shoudl you really have "fglrx" for Driver, under Device?
[01:03] <nevin> daniel: yeah, try reburning, or checking the md5 sum
[01:03] <tim> is there a way via the command line to change the gtk theme in ubuntu?
[01:03] <cato_> apokryphos, yeah, i ran fglrxconfig and it set that there so.. im guessing its right
[01:04] <apokryphos> cato_: no, I think that part is right; fglrx for ati
[01:04] <salil> nevin: forget it... thanks anyway... i'll try later.. its pretty late here... gotta sleep
[01:04] <nevin> salil: anytime, np
[01:04] <apokryphos> cato_: using alien can be dodgy sometimes though; always better to compile, if you can, really.
[01:04] <wolarsen> MartenH	 - it s not a cd containing 1 file. it contain many files ... but i cant boot ( please key to rebbot screen & nothinng )
[01:04] <puff> How hard is it to try an alternative window manager?  How easy is it to back out and go back to the default?
[01:04] <cato_> apokryphos, do you know of the newest driver wich is compileable then?
[01:05] <apokryphos> cato_: ah, there's a Universal installer -- use that.
[01:05] <MartenH> wolarsen: have you configured your comp to boot on the CD prior to HD?
[01:05] <timbabwe> So, does anyone know why all of the sudden my Ubuntu laptop would not be able to copy files to my Windows 2000 Share that was working a few weeks ago?
[01:05] <nevin> puff: if you're using kdm or gdm to log in, its dead easy
[01:05] <DukGalNamu> nevin: ok try again
[01:05] <cato_> apokryphos, i tried that one.. same thing happened. It wont overwrite the standard glib.so or whatever
[01:05] <nevin> DukGalName
[01:05] <DukGalNamu> umm
[01:05] <nevin> DukGalNamu
[01:05] <procrastinator> puff: Very easy. You can normally choose window manger at the login screen.
[01:05] <DukGalNamu> hmm
[01:05] <danielrr> NEVEN I got the cd's from ubuntu.com
[01:05] <nevin> yeah, bad typist
[01:05] <DukGalNamu> still didn't work
[01:05] <apokryphos> cato_: which step is this in, just the installation?
[01:05] <timbabwe> I keep getting an error saying "invalid parameters"
[01:06] <nevin> daniel: hrm... scratched? (weak, but maybe...)
[01:06] <wolarsen> MartenH	- yes. i have 2 CD drive  & i have truing both.
[01:06] <danielrr> *n00..
[01:06] <cato_> apokryphos, well.. if you see the steps i used.. you notice i had to use dpkg -i --force-overwrite... and the Universal installer doesnt do that.. or so i think, it still uses the MesaGL library when im done installing
[01:07] <danielrr> neven disks are clean
[01:07] <puff> procrastinator: Ah, so a) is there a window manager cooler looking than enlightenment, and b) is enlightenment easy enough to try out?
[01:07] <esac> how do i install bootp and tftp ?
[01:07] <puff> Last time I asked a question along the lines of "how painful is XYZZY" the response was "have you ever brokena fingeR?"
[01:07] <brian__> how do run unreal once cedega is done installing?
[01:07] <cato_> apokryphos, maybe it all comes down to my fglrxconfig .. im not sure im configuring it right :\ cause when i do, i get some error dialogues when i log on after reboot
[01:07] <apokryphos> cato_: hm, I don't know then. They're not perfect instructions; tried posting on the ubuforum?
[01:08] <procrastinator> puff: Can't say, haven't tried enlightenment. I can recommend Fluxbox or Openbox though.
[01:08] <nevin> daniel: I'm sorry, I can't think of anything other than dl'ing an image and burning it
[01:08] <procrastinator> puff: Haha ;)
[01:08] <nevin> daniel: do you have more disks that you ordered?
[01:08] <cato_> apokryphos, i've looked on the forums, but anyone says they get it going after running the universal installer and doing fglrxconfig.. so, maybe im just bad at configuring my xorg.conf.. :\
[01:09] <cato_> anyone = everyone
[01:09] <procrastinator> puff: Was that perhaps Rosegarden?
[01:09] <danielrr> Neven I am now trying third disk that I ordered
[01:09] <timbabwe> Any samba experts?
[01:09] <apokryphos> cato_: the steps there don't even mention you manually configuring xorg.conf do they?
[01:09] <cato_> apokryphos, wich steps?
[01:10] <apokryphos> cato_: the ones you linked
[01:10] <puff> procrastinator: fluxbox, openbox, why?
[01:10] <MartenH> where do I place menu addon files?
[01:10] <puff> procrastinator: I don't remember who it was...
[01:10] <cato_> apokryphos, no.. it just tells me to run fgrlxconfig
[01:11] <apokryphos> cato_: so how exactly would you muck up your xorg.conf? :)
[01:11] <cato_> apokryphos, through fglrxconfig.. :p not choosing the right modes etc..
[01:11] <Slipaway172> i just wanted to see if something works
[01:11] <danielrr> thanks neven for trying to help.
[01:11] <procrastinator> puff: Well, Fluxbox is full of nice features, but their theme files are fucked up - doesn't matter if you're not going to write the, thought
[01:11] <procrastinator> though even
[01:12] <apokryphos> cato_: oh. Really don't know what it's like (as I said), so wouldn't be familiar with those particular steps
[01:12] <procrastinator> puff: Openbox has less features, but is more "clean"
[01:12] <danielrr> be back  latter got called for dinner
[01:12] <esac> what do i install for bootp and tftp ?
[01:12] <nevin> esac: are you trying to set up thin terminals?
[01:12] <cato_> apokryphos, well ok, then.. Thanks anyways though.. :) ill read some more
[01:12] <esac> nevin: pxe boot
[01:13] <danielrr> ?
[01:13] <esac> so probably the same thing
[01:13] <procrastinator> puff: And by the way, check out my screenshot: http://linuxin.dk/eyecandy/1457_3.jpg ;)
[01:13] <nevin> esac: you want the daemons?
[01:13] <esac> nod
[01:13] <procrastinator> puff: Don't mind the Photoshop icon, it's an old screenshots
[01:14] <procrastinator> without the s
[01:14] <nevin> esac: sudo apt-get install tfpd bootp
[01:14] <nevin> whoops
[01:14] <CapSoft> procrastinator, use superkaramba??
[01:14] <nevin> tftpd
[01:14] <procrastinator> CapSoft: No, gDesklets
[01:14] <CapSoft> does liquidweather work on that too?
[01:15] <CapSoft> and what window manager?
[01:15] <apokryphos> CapSoft: of course
[01:15] <procrastinator> CapSoft: Yes, I didn't know it worked on superkaramba too?
[01:15] <procrastinator> CapSoft: Fluxbox
[01:15] <CapSoft> yes
[01:15] <CapSoft> is that ubuntu?
[01:15] <CapSoft> nice theme for fluxbox
[01:16] <DekaPink> --;
[01:16] <DekaPink> Limewire doesn't seem to close when I close it... I have to xkill it. :3
[01:16] <procrastinator> No, that's actually Fedora, but I use the same config for both distros
[01:16] <procrastinator> So it might aswell have been
[01:16] <CapSoft> kewl
[01:16] <CapSoft> and what is that bar on top?
[01:16] <desrt> what is the best way to setup my ubuntu box for ipmasq?
[01:16] <CapSoft> what desklet is it?
[01:16] <procrastinator> StarterBar
[01:17] <CapSoft> thanks
[01:17] <desrt> without using firestarter
[01:17] <cato_> is this a bad thing? : Warning: could not find /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/.libfglrx_ip.a.GCC3.c md for /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/libfglrx_ip.a.GCC3
[01:17] <cato_> when compiling the fglrx modules..
[01:18] <procrastinator> CapSoft: And the thingy in the top right corner is Torsmo - which i can strongly recommend
[01:18] <CapSoft> procrastinator, i allready found a nice tutor for myself: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=60350 so i won't be bored tomorrow
[01:18] <CapSoft> thanks
[01:18] <puff> procrastinator: Okay, now that's just sick...
[01:18] <puff> And why is he playing a recorder?
[01:18] <puff> With hooves...
[01:18] <CapSoft> torsmo is no desklet right?
[01:18] <procrastinator> CapSoft: Nice.
[01:18] <procrastinator> CapSoft: Nope. http://torsmo.sf.net
[01:19] <esac> i cant find bootp or tfpd or tftpd or similar with apt-get install
[01:19] <procrastinator> puff: It's beautiful, isn't it?
[01:20] <puff> That's one word for it...
[01:20] <cafuego> !find tftpd
[01:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'tftpd' (3 shown): atftpd ;; tftpd ;; tftpd-hpa.
[01:20] <puff> Very... red.
[01:20] <nevin> esac: try searching for similar packages
[01:20] <cafuego> !info tftpd
[01:20] <ubotu> tftpd: (Internet trivial file transfer protocol server.), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.17-11 (hoary), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 80 kB
[01:21] <cafuego> Add universe to yuor sources.list
[01:21] <nevin> esac: have you enabled the universe rep?
[01:21] <puff> Anyway, my basic intent is to experiment with a look & feel that will a) make th emac users drool, b) still be very usable, c) go well with the thinkpad it's installed on.
[01:21] <procrastinator> puff: You like green better? http://linuxin.dk/eyecandy/1457_2.jpg
[01:21] <procrastinator> That's an old config
[01:21] <esac> just did that, thanks
[01:21] <CapSoft> procrastinator, how do i configure torsmo?
[01:22] <procrastinator> Wallpaper and theme by Klowner, he has some nice ones: http://dugnet.com/klown/wallpaper/
[01:22] <procrastinator> CapSoft: In ~/.torsmorc
[01:22] <esac> got them, thanks
[01:22] <black-whisp> hmm what ports does bittorrent use?
[01:23] <puff> Ouch.
[01:23] <procrastinator> CapSoft: It's pretty simple, the layout setup is at the bottom
[01:23] <puff> Hm.
[01:23] <puff> I'm having a creative momment... either that or it's gas.
[01:24] <puff> A window manager that uses your PC's webcam to assess your clothing's color scheme and select a theme to match, dynamically.
[01:24] <procrastinator> puff: Hurry, launch Gimp. Or open a window.
[01:24] <procrastinator> puff: I think it's gas.
[01:25] <cafuego> why can't people do 2048x1600 wallpapers *grrr*
[01:26] <HrdwrBoB> haha
[01:26] <puterfixer> damn, and I thought my 1680x1050 resolution on this 20", 16:10 tft was wild
[01:26] <procrastinator> cafuego: Nah-nah-nah-nah-naaaah-nah, you're noot normal.
[01:26] <HrdwrBoB> why can't people scale backgrounds?
[01:26] <CapSoft> procrastinator, there is no .torsmo file in my home dir
[01:26] <HrdwrBoB> puterfixer: heh, quite a few people now have the 1920x1200 dell 24"
[01:27] <cafuego> procrastinator: .. and that's without xinerama, too.
[01:27] <procrastinator> CapSoft: You have to create it yourself. I think there's an example file in the dir.
[01:27] <black-whisp> whats a good bittorrent client where you can edit the ports it uses?
[01:27] <CapSoft> in what dir?
[01:27] <procrastinator> CapSoft: Sorry, I'm tired. The package.
[01:28] <CapSoft> sorry but i am a noob
[01:28] <CapSoft> where can i find the package after i did apt-get install torsmo
[01:28] <eivind> I need a program to remotely administrate a computer. both computers run linux. what application do you prefer?
[01:28] <CapSoft> putty for windows
[01:28] <nevin> eivind: ssh
[01:28] <CapSoft> terminal for linux ssh
[01:28] <procrastinator> black-whisp: You can do that in almost any client. I recommend the original one.
[01:29] <procrastinator> nevin: Don't hush him, he can ask a question!
[01:29] <procrastinator> :p
[01:30] <eivind> thanks
[01:30] <procrastinator> CapSoft: Oh, right. I didn't know there were packages. I could send you my config?
[01:30] <CapSoft> uhm...
[01:30] <CapSoft> well or paste it somewhere
[01:30] <CapSoft> lol
[01:31] <puff> Okay, I'm in openbox now, don't see much different, guess I need to find & download a theme and try it.
[01:31] <CapSoft> though with apt-get it should give me an example
[01:31] <puff> Though I miss the metacity version of alt-tab :-(
[01:32] <procrastinator> CapSoft: Yeah, it's probably somewhere too
[01:32] <puff> Given that I spend the vast majority of my time in:  a) emacs, b) ssh session to emacs running elsewhere, c) shell where I use javac and cygwin, d) firefox.
[01:32] <procrastinator> /usr/share/doc/torsmo/examples/torsmorc.sample.gz
[01:33] <holycow> you know, i really haveto say yet again, that the places menu in gnome 2.10 is a stupendous idea, as well as being able to mount server points like ftp, ssh, etc, i mean that is beyond cool
[01:33] <puff> Opinions about enlightenment?
[01:33] <holycow> if one could tie that into an ldap backend and create these for users via policies, wow that would be amazing
[01:34] <CapSoft> thanks procrastinator
[01:34] <anomaly> e17 looks crispy.
[01:34] <holycow> indeedy
[01:34] <CapSoft> though it sometimes disappear when i click on it...
[01:34] <holycow> love the 'any media as background' bit
[01:34] <levander> There is a way to benchmark access to a samba share?
[01:34] <decaf> e17 can be used by my grandchildren. (I'm not married yet)
[01:35] <AMDXP> lol Decaf
[01:35] <procrastinator> CapSoft: In Gnome?
[01:35] <CapSoft> yes
[01:35] <CapSoft> in gnome
[01:35] <HrdwrBoB> levander: probably you could synthesize your own benchmark
[01:35] <HrdwrBoB> specific to your network and needs
[01:35] <rob__> hi
[01:35] <procrastinator> CapSoft: Yeah, nautilus can't really figure out that it should stay below it
[01:35] <rob__> does anyone know how to reset webmin once it's denied access to an IP ?
[01:36] <CapSoft> lol so it's just a bug which can't be fixed?
[01:36] <nevin> levander: if you have konqueror, you could try moving files into the share... the "file moving" window shows a file move speed
[01:36] <procrastinator> I am in lack of a screen for my stationary computer
[01:36] <HrdwrBoB> holycow: yes, gnome needs more of that sort of 'policy' thing
[01:36] <HrdwrBoB> nevin: that's not a benchmark.
[01:36] <nevin> obioulsy
[01:36] <nevin> sp
[01:36] <procrastinator> So right now I'm accesing it only through VNC from my laptop.
[01:36] <nevin> but it show's some sort of measure
[01:37] <nevin> man my spelling sucks
[01:37] <HrdwrBoB> shows
[01:37] <CapSoft> thanks procrastinator for your help!
[01:37] <rob__> levander, to test hard disc speed use hdparm -t /dev/hd....
[01:37] <CapSoft> i am goning to bed
[01:38] <procrastinator> CapSoft: Any time!
[01:38] <CapSoft> since it is 1:39 here
[01:38] <CapSoft> later folks
[01:38] <anomaly> I have used a number of linux distros, as well as the *bsds, but heard of ubuntu earlier today. looks well so far.
[01:38] <carine_> hi everyone! does anybody know how to install icecast on ubuntu. or to make GnuMP3d on ubuntu (i'm a linux newbie)
[01:38] <HrdwrBoB> rob__: doesn't work on remote shares
[01:38] <procrastinator> CapSoft: Here too.
[01:38] <rob__> HrdwrBoB, ahh, I didn't get that bit
[01:39] <HrdwrBoB> anomaly: yeah it Works :)
[01:39] <liz4rd> ok i installed a game called flightgear, but running the command flightgear doesnt work, how do i search for things? (in xfce) or in a term
[01:39] <nevin> carine_: sudo apt-get install gnump3d
[01:39] <procrastinator> anomaly: You'll love it.
[01:39] <HrdwrBoB> carine_: synaptic should have icecast etc
[01:39] <nevin> liz4rd: whereis flightgear
[01:39] <rob__> liz4rd, check in synaptic what files it installed
[01:39] <liz4rd> $ whereis flightgear
[01:39] <carine_> hmm i installed both but now i can't find them in the menu :-/
[01:39] <liz4rd> flightgear:
[01:40] <rob__> liz4rd, as I remember the executable is called "fg"
[01:40] <carine_> im a complete newbie. i dont know if i missed a step and which one? i did everything from synaptic
[01:40] <anomaly> well, how could you not like something called "hoaryhedgehog" ? heh
[01:40] <HrdwrBoB> liz4rd: dpkg -L flightgear will list the files in the package
[01:40] <rob__> HrdwrBoB, that's the one :)
[01:40] <procrastinator> liz4rd: dpkg -L flightgear | grep bin
[01:40] <anomaly> dpkg? so it uses the apt/dpkg system, eh? interesting.
[01:40] <procrastinator> anomaly: It's very much Debian based.
[01:40] <HrdwrBoB> anomaly: yes, it's like debian, only more up to date and a lot shinier
[01:41] <puff> Hm, all the enlightenment stuff is for warty, not hoary.
[01:41] <MrGardenHoseMan> can anyone recomend me a good xchat/xmms script?
[01:41] <puff> How hard is it, technically, to do a theme?  i have some designer friends...
[01:41] <Sisma> Ummm
[01:41] <HrdwrBoB> puff: not very
[01:41] <Sisma> Re to all
[01:41] <admx> Ubuntu rocks
[01:41] <ed1t> amen
[01:41] <procrastinator> puff: You can basically figure it out by just looking at another theme
[01:42] <sandis> puff: go to art.gnome.org - they have some tutorials
[01:42] <Sisma> HELP..... for use the normal su command ???
[01:42] <levander> rob__: a samba share is across the network, it's not attached by and IDE bus, can't use hdparm
[01:42] <Sisma> Sorry form my english
[01:42] <Sisma> :D
[01:42] <Sisma> *for
[01:42] <levander> nevin: don't use kde, there's another (maybe command line??) utility that will show me how fast a file is copying?
[01:42] <procrastinator> Sisma: In Ubuntu, you use sudo, which you can run a single command with
[01:43] <Sisma> And for SU ?
[01:43] <cato_> I think i made a breakthrough on my understanding whats wrong with my fglrx.. >_< can anyone check this out? : http://pastebin.com/324244       (its from my /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[01:43] <Sisma> Is possible remove de sudo system?
[01:43] <procrastinator> Sisma: For example, try sudo ls /root
[01:43] <Sisma> Yes
[01:43] <nevin> bad idea
[01:43] <procrastinator> Sisma: Yes, but give it a chance first
[01:43] <Sisma> Bat for CPAN installer the sudo method don't is good
[01:44] <procrastinator> CPAN?
[01:44] <luke2> I haven't used Linux for almost a year. Getting back into it. Need some help...
[01:44] <Sisma> *But
[01:44] <Sisma> Yes....PERL
[01:44] <luke2> What is the default su password for Ubuntu?
[01:44] <nevin> sisma: you can use sudo su - to get a root login
[01:44] <nevin> luke2: there is none
[01:44] <Sisma> The same of the your account
[01:44] <goldfish> luke2: ubuntu uses sudo, the sudo pass is the pass for the account you activated during install.
[01:44] <procrastinator> Sisma: You can just install it through apt?
[01:45] <Sisma> Hummmm
[01:45] <nevin> luke2: only the first user created may use sudo by default
[01:45] <Flying_Eagle> hi
[01:45] <cafuego> luke2: Any other users you want to give sudo access to should be adeed to the `admin' group.
[01:45] <procrastinator> hi, Flying_Eagle
[01:45] <nevin> luke2: its the user who is logged in who's password it is
[01:45] <Sisma> Is one pack for xmms
[01:45] <Sisma> BUNDLE::XMMS
[01:45] <luke2> Okay, give me a second....
[01:45] <admx> Anyone know if the next version of Ubuntu will use the Re
[01:45] <luke2> Thanks for the info people.
[01:46] <procrastinator> Sisma: Huh?
[01:46] <cafuego> Sisma: If you need CPAN thingies, install dh-make-perl and use that.
[01:46] <Sisma> Yes,,,... I have download one script in perl for xchat
[01:46] <Razor-X> yay, finals are finished!
[01:46] <Razor-X> time to try out zsh ;)
[01:46] <Razor-X> brb
[01:46] <cafuego> But _do not_ use x-chat/xmms scripts on #ubuntu.
[01:46] <brian__> ok so ive installed unreal tournament through cedega and it runs with no anomolies
[01:47] <brian__> artifacts etc
[01:47] <brian__> but
[01:47] <luke2> nevin: I'm under the first (and only) account. So basically, I already have su access?
[01:47] <brian__> i am getting 3 frames a second
[01:47] <nevin> luke2: sudo access
[01:47] <sandis> where can i find developers channel?
[01:47] <admx> Anyone know if the next version of Ubuntu will use the Reiser file system?
[01:47] <cafuego> brian__: That sounds about right
[01:47] <nevin> luke2: yeah, you have sudo access
[01:47] <frank234> does anyone know a package i could use to convert from one video format to another, assuming i have the encoder libraries for both formats?
[01:47] <luke2> nevin: Okay. Thanks. I've never heard of sudo before. New to me.
[01:47] <cafuego> admx: It will never use reiserfs by default. Ever. You can however choose to use it already.
[01:48] <brian__> well im curious as to how i can get better frame rates
[01:48] <cafuego> frank234: 'transcode'
[01:48] <luke2> Okay. I'm out. Thanks for the help everyone.
[01:48] <procrastinator> My "C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check"
[01:48] <cafuego> procrastinator: install build-essential
[01:48] <Hawk_au> lukes: check out http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root
[01:48] <procrastinator> In other words, my computer just told me it's insane
[01:48] <DukGalNamu> nevin: ok try again
[01:48] <luke2> Okay.
[01:48] <nevin> DukGalNamu
[01:48] <frank234> cafuego: thanks
[01:48] <Sisma> Good support in this channel
[01:48] <nevin> anything?
[01:48] <Sisma> :D
[01:48] <procrastinator> cafuego: Thanks.
[01:48] <cafuego> procrastinator: No, just the C++ compiler is insane. Which is a VERY sane conclusion to reach ;-)
[01:49] <DukGalNamu> :P
[01:49] <DukGalNamu> nevin: it works now
[01:49] <brian__> Seveas
[01:49] <philstar> is ubuntu artwork under the gpl?
[01:49] <cafuego> DukGalNamu: Thanks, don't.
[01:49] <luke2> Hawk_au: Ah thanks. This should do.
[01:49] <procrastinator> =)
[01:49] <nevin> Duk: awesome
[01:49] <admx> But will need to format harddrive to use it or can ext3 be converted to Reiser?
[01:49] <Hawk_au> luke2: got me when i first started too
[01:49] <DukGalNamu> cafuego: you restarted it
[01:49] <procrastinator> philstar: How could you think otherwise? ;)
[01:49] <cafuego> admx: No, it needs to be formatted as reiser from scratch.
[01:49] <brian__> anyone know how i can get better frame rates
[01:49] <brian__> ?
[01:49] <cafuego> admx: Any reason you think reiser is a better idea than ext3?
[01:49] <philstar> procrastinator: cause someone else said so...
[01:49] <brian__> i mean the colors are all correct
[01:50] <admx> I thought so, thanks
[01:50] <brian__> and it looks fine
[01:50] <brian__> but i am getting unbearable framrates
[01:50] <nevin> cafuego: finer permissions control
[01:50] <admx> well I  heard it is more secure and fester.
[01:50] <frank234> whats the difference between reiser4 and the other reiser fs?
[01:50] <cafuego> nevin: ext3 also does acl and extended attributes
[01:50] <brian__> nevin any ideas?
[01:50] <sandis> brian__: did you tried to configure X?
[01:50] <philstar> procrastinator: plus, there's a big thing about trademarks on the ubuntu website
[01:50] <nevin> cafuego: my bad.. I'm out of date
[01:50] <cafuego> frank234: reiser4 *will* break and lose your data, reiser3 *might*
[01:51] <guizzzmo> hi
[01:51] <philstar> but thanks
[01:51] <nevin> brian__: sorry, I don't game, so I'm pretty useless for gfx performance
[01:51] <brian__> well through running what command?
[01:51] <Will_> I keep all my important data under my matress
[01:51] <guizzzmo> i have problems with hotplug, i cannot enter ubuntu cause the computer freezes while i get the message "starting hotplug subsystem"
[01:51] <funkyHat> hahahaha
[01:52] <cafuego> brian__: The only eay you're going to get decetn framerates is by using a Linux native UT application.
[01:52] <brian__> i am using cedega
[01:52] <frank234> glxgears !
[01:52] <procrastinator> philstar: Oh. I'm quite sure it's free (as in freedom), and I would presume it's GPL, too. And trademarks would have nothing to do with that.
[01:52] <nevin> Will_: we all know that under the pillow is much safer
[01:52] <cafuego> brian__: Yes, hence the 3fps.
[01:52] <brian__> i ran glx gears
[01:52] <brian__> it looked good
[01:52] <admx> At least that is the info that I read on www.namesys.com about Reiser
[01:52] <Will_> nevin: Are you hitting on me?
[01:52] <brian__> but was only gettin 100 fps
[01:52] <brian__> roughly
[01:52] <Will_> Because frankly, I'm a little flattered. But not interested
[01:52] <cafuego> admx: Yeah, microsoft way the same thing about windows on microsoft.com ;-)
[01:52] <frank234> brian__: what graphics card are you using?
[01:52] <cafuego> admx: Do you believe them? ;-)
[01:53] <sandis> brian__: and what game?
[01:53] <cafuego> admx: If you want the data to be secure, use ext2 or ext3. If you have backups and want to experiment a bit, go reiser.
[01:53] <brian__> unreal tournament
[01:54] <brian__> i am really proud of myslef to get it to run thus far
[01:54] <brian__> and is enough incentive for me to keep pluggin away
[01:54] <admx> No, I have never trusted Microsoft, However I have found Linux to be more OPEN about things :)
[01:54] <brian__> because i feel the rewards of linux will someday far outweigh the current inconvieniences
[01:54] <nevin> brian__: you have now joined the clb of linux addicts
[01:54] <Sisma> Help :D
[01:54] <nevin> *club
[01:54] <cafuego> admx: To put it in perspective, ext2 and ext3 have *never* destroyed any of my data. Reiser3 has once (on a 2.2. kernel) and reiser4 has twice, as has XFS.
[01:54] <brian__> lol
[01:55] <brian__> seriously
[01:55] <frank234> has anyone ever made a file system that doesnt have some address table, sort of like how one would go about nesting xml tags?
[01:55] <Sisma> Don't install the BUNDLE::XMMS
[01:55] <Sisma> http://atheism-v2.sourceforge.net/
[01:55] <brian__> i cant even carry on a convo with other people
[01:55] <frank234> im sure it would suck, just curious
[01:55] <admx> wow.
[01:55] <brian__> i ate my dinner watching this irc chan
[01:55] <cafuego> frank234: Like say mysqlfs?
[01:55] <guizzzmo> please, anybody knows how to fix a problem with hotplug when booting?
[01:55] <brian__> i want to learn as much as i can
[01:55] <sandis> brian__: ati or nvidia?
[01:55] <cato_> http://pastebin.com/324244   , Anyone know what this means? :\
[01:55] <brian__> is ati rs200
[01:56] <brian__> xorg see it and gives me drivers to some degree
[01:56] <brian__> mobility
[01:56] <brian__> on the radeon chip
[01:56] <brian__> i dont even care if its the only game i can get running
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> cato_: it means exactly what it says it mens
[01:56] <cafuego> brian__: At best you're going to be able to lift that to say 5 or 6 fps using Cedega. it's not worth the bother. Get UT for Linux and revel in the sudden speed.
[01:56] <procrastinator> by the way, could anyone recommend a newbie-friendly alternative to Rhythmbox? I've never really gotten XMMS to work on Ubuntu...
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> cato_: how did you install the ati driver
[01:56] <brian__> ubuntu will never leave this pc
[01:57] <frank234> cafuego: well, okay then :) never thought of it that way
[01:57] <cafuego> procrastinator: beep-media-player
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> cato_: you should follow http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:57] <procrastinator> (personally, I just use mplayer)
[01:57] <brian__> are you serious?
[01:57] <cato_> HrdwrBoB, like the guide at Ubuntuforum says..
[01:57] <cafuego> brian__: Yes.
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> procrastinator: er.. ryhthmbox :)
[01:57] <cato_> HrdwrBoB, those are like 4 releases old
[01:57] <frank234> procrastinator: i dont know about you but dont count on xmms to work
[01:57] <cato_> HrdwrBoB, and it wont let me play games with cedega
[01:57] <brian__> so is it going to be like this in pretty much all of their supported games?
[01:57] <procrastinator> cafuego: Thanks. Seems nice.
[01:57] <cafuego> brian__: Keep in mind you're running WIDNOWS software on LINUX. it's a wonder it runs _at_ _all_ ;-)
[01:57] <SprflyZapp> hey anyone know how to install tarball files plz help me Aim Me: SprflyZapp
[01:57] <Andares> checking for glMatrixMode in -lGL... no
[01:57] <Andares> configure: error: Missing GL
[01:57] <brian__> true true
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> cato_: ok, well, the kernel version and the X driver version don't match
[01:58] <Andares> What package do I need to install to get this to configure?
[01:58] <sandis> brian__: you should get nvidia card
[01:58] <Razor-X> hmmm, how should I change my default shell?
[01:58] <ajmitch> cafuego: interesting, I've had fairly reasonable framerates with a number of games & wine
[01:58] <brian__> i find this all so damn compelling
[01:58] <Razor-X> I already used chsh -s /bin/zsh
[01:58] <cafuego> brian__: Well, in fps games that need fast hardware, sure. Other stuff (like say SimCity) works fine and at decent speeds.
[01:58] <cato_> HrdwrBoB, how do i check my kernel version?
[01:58] <brian__> ouch
[01:58] <brian__> sandis that hurts
[01:58] <Andares> >.<
[01:58] <cafuego> brian__: ... unless you run a Linux native application.
[01:58] <Razor-X> but that seems to do nothing, and I can't find anything in my Terminal Emulator settings that change the default shell
[01:58] <nevin> Razor-X: man chsh
[01:58] <Andares> Anyone got a clue?
[01:58] <Razor-X> nevin: already checked it
[01:58] <guizzzmo> ok, bye
[01:58] <Razor-X> it's a pretty short man page
[01:58] <Razor-X> chsh -s login-shell user
[01:59] <Sisma> For me null?
[01:59] <Razor-X> if invoked without superuser privileges it changes your current shell
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> cato_: it's not the kernel version it's the version of the kernel module
[01:59] <r0bby> grub.conf and menu.lst are the same file correct?
[01:59] <Razor-X> as simple as that
[01:59] <brian__> so is there a web resource that will list these linux apps converts
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> cato_: if you haven't rebooted, do so
[01:59] <cafuego> brian__: Just check that UT is set to use *hardware* 3d
[01:59] <apokryphos> r0bby: there is no grub.conf in Ubuntu, is there? But yes.
[01:59] <Sisma> I have one problem to integrate xmms in xchat
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> cato_: it may still haev the old driver loaded
[01:59] <MrGardenHoseMan> anyone have xmms-tool.1.1.tar.gz ?
[01:59] <Razor-X> so, how should I change my shell?
[01:59] <sandis> brian__: google is your friend
[01:59] <r0bby> there is
[01:59] <cato_> HrdwrBoB, and how can i fix that? And yeah, i have rebooted several times
[01:59] <Sisma> One script for me?
[01:59] <apokryphos> r0bby: ah, so I see.
[01:59] <rob__> brian__, if you want to play games under linux, sell your ATI card and buy and Nvidia one
[01:59] <brian__> ok i dont want to ask how how how how
[01:59] <r0bby> so grub.cong and menu.lst are the same
[01:59] <Sisma> Please :D
[01:59] <brian__> rob
[01:59] <nevin> Razor-X: grep YOURUSENAME /etc/passwd
[01:59] <r0bby> :)
[01:59] <rob__> brian__, I'm a games developer, I know...
[02:00] <cafuego> brian__: in the game options menu, it should tell you.
[02:00] <ed1t> is there any player which can play .asx format?
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> cato_: the easiest way to fix it is to overwrite both locations again
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> essentially, reinstall the driver
[02:00] <r0bby> :D
[02:00] <SprflyZapp> can anyone help with installing tarball files????? My Aim is SprflyZapp
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> cato_: then curse the ground that ATI walks on
[02:00] <nevin> Razor-X: last entry in the line, is it correct?
[02:00] <brian__> i think i set it to use opengl
[02:00] <cato_> HrdwrBoB, :p
[02:00] <brian__> was that stupid of me?
[02:00] <cato_> HrdwrBoB, overwrite both locations? eh? could you specify?
[02:00] <cafuego> brian__: No, opengl is hardware
[02:00] <Razor-X> nevin: I know my password
[02:00] <luke2> Ha! Got it. Had to install the JRE. Even though I'm on the only account I still had to use sudo.
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> cato_: both the kernel module and the X driver
[02:00] <nevin> SprflyZapp: tar xvzf tarballfile.tar.gz
[02:01] <cato_> HrdwrBoB, and how do i overwrite the kernel module.. to make it compatible with the "new universal ati" installer?
[02:01] <SprflyZapp> ...... ur talking german to me lol
[02:01] <nevin> sprflyzapp: then cd into the directory, and run ./configure; make all; make install
[02:01] <nevin> do you have a shell open?
[02:01] <Razor-X> nevin: me?
[02:02] <rafter> hi; i have 1 ? i need to edit /etc/ld.so.conf; is this space, semicolon, comma, or new line delimitated?
[02:02] <nevin> flyzapp: shell open?
[02:02] <brian__> ok im back from ohone
[02:02] <brian__> err phone
[02:02] <sandis> where can i find developers channel?
[02:02] <SprflyZapp> i dunno
[02:02] <cafuego> nevin: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local is what you meant to say, isn't it?
[02:02] <brian__> cafuego so i chose correctly?
[02:02] <cafuego> brian__: Yep
[02:02] <nevin> yes, it is cafuego
[02:03] <Razor-X> HrdwrBoB: how did you change your default shell?
[02:03] <nevin> Razor-x, what's the last entry in the line you get from grep YOURUSENAME /etc/passwd
[02:03] <cafuego> brian__: What sort of framerates did you get under windows?
[02:03] <SprflyZapp> how do i know if my shell is open?
[02:03] <brian__> well I got decent framerates around 100 or more
[02:03] <sandis> SZ: right click -> open terminal
[02:03] <Razor-X> my shell should be /bin/zsh it says
[02:03] <nevin> flyzapp: you need to have a console, or a shell open.... under applications -> system tools -> terminal
[02:03] <cafuego> brian__: Hmm.
[02:03] <brian__> yeah
[02:03] <SprflyZapp> o ok
[02:04] <Razor-X> home directory is /home/razorx, shell is /bin/zsh
[02:04] <brian__> do you think i should get the 64bit version of this when i build my new pc
[02:04] <nevin> Razor-X: do you want zsh to be default shell?
[02:04] <brian__> well i guess i can make that decision
[02:04] <Razor-X> nevin: yes
[02:04] <brian__> just have to give it time
[02:04] <luke2> Ugh. Getting back into Linux is making me think too much. It's okay though... Windows drives me crazy.
[02:04] <nevin> sprflyzapp: terminal, shell, and console are interchagneable
[02:04] <marfis> anyone in here who got weired dm-linear errors after compiling the kernel and solved that issue? ("dm-linear: Device lookup failed" ...)
[02:04] <cafuego> brian__: The 64bit version can't run Cedega at all. (without hassle)
[02:04] <cafuego> marfis: Do you *need* the device mapper for anything?
[02:05] <brian__> i realize i am in a completley new and chaotic world
[02:05] <brian__> which is fine
[02:05] <brian__> im willing to learn
[02:05] <SprflyZapp> okay
[02:05] <frank234> brian__: isnt UT sort of like cube? to me theyre both pretty fast .. you might want to try cube
[02:05] <brian__> its just that reading puts me to sleep
[02:05] <blake__> I am having trouble getting Enemy Territory to run after upgrading form warty to hoary
[02:05] <Razor-X> frank234: Cube is _much_ slower than UT
[02:05] <brian__> whats Cube?
[02:05] <Razor-X> brian__: it's an FPS
[02:05] <frank234> well, its faster than other fps ...
[02:05] <brian__> built for linux?
[02:05] <cafuego> brian__: a regular six-sided polygon
[02:05] <frank234> brian__: yes
[02:05] <brian__> haha
[02:05] <Razor-X> frank234: UT is meant for speed
[02:06] <frank234> www.cubeengine.com i believe
[02:06] <blake__> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:06] <blake__> Couldn't get a visual
[02:06] <blake__> ...WARNING: could not set the given mode (3)
[02:06] <blake__> ----- CL_Shutdown -----
[02:06] <blake__> RE_Shutdown( 1 )
[02:06] <Razor-X> brian__: go buy yourself native Linux UT
[02:06] <blake__> -----------------------
[02:06] <blake__> ----- CL_Shutdown -----
[02:06] <blake__> -----------------------
[02:06] <brian__> ok
[02:06] <Razor-X> there's a native Linux version of UT
[02:06] <blake__> Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[02:06] <cafuego> brian__: Don't paste
[02:06] <Razor-X> blake__: don't paste in here
[02:06] <blake__> anyone know the root of my problem?!
[02:06] <marfis> cafuego, jeap, I need dm-crypt, using encrypted partitions...
[02:06] <brian__> or i can dl it right?
[02:06] <blake__> sorry
[02:06] <brian__> or shall not speakith
[02:06] <cafuego> blake__: Don't paste
[02:06] <cafuego> stupid tab
[02:06] <blake__> yea, i've got it guys, sorry
[02:06] <frank234> Razor-x: to me UT is like rabbits running around, too fast for me :)
[02:06] <brian__> lol
[02:06] <Razor-X> frank234: that's why most people can't play it
[02:06] <Razor-X> it takes more skill than any other FPS, IMO
[02:06] <brian__> i love the fast paced fps's
[02:06] <cafuego> !paster
[02:06] <ubotu> cafuego: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:06] <cafuego> !paste
[02:06] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is ""http://ubuntu.pastebin.com http://pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.""
[02:06] <Razor-X> to survive in UT at the highest mode is skill itself
[02:07] <Razor-X> much more so than sitting in a corner for an hour, waiting for someone to drop their guard, and shooting
[02:07] <brian__> hmm
[02:07] <Razor-X> that's just idiotic patience, IMO
[02:07] <brian__> well that sounds like a campers map
[02:07] <frank234> well in halo, aiming with lag is the main skill ;)
[02:07] <blake__> so nobody can help me?
[02:07] <frank234> (pc) i mean
[02:07] <Razor-X> brian__: no, that's CS XD
[02:07] <brian__> but i am totally into a good strategy
[02:07] <Razor-X> cafuego: can you help me change my default shell? ;)
[02:07] <ed1t> how do i play .wmv files?
[02:08] <Razor-X> brian__: I love UT, it's fscking awesome
[02:08] <frank234> razor-x: isnt it just some setting in system tools
[02:08] <Razor-X> !tell ed1t about restrictedformats
[02:08] <sandis> it would be nice if there would be more mainstream games for linux
[02:08] <lllmanulll> edlt : mplayer ?
[02:08] <cafuego> ed1t: install w32codecs and then use totem or something
[02:08] <brian__> its just difficult to find those willing to put aside their running rampit tendencies
[02:08] <frank234> razor-x: system-preferences-prefferred applications
[02:08] <cafuego> arrrgh, only 29% done
[02:08] <Razor-X> frank234: I don't use Gnome, A)
[02:08] <brian__> and coordinate a skillful planned attack
[02:08] <Razor-X> second, I don't use the included Terminal package
[02:08] <frank234> sorry :)
[02:08] <marfis> cafuego, by the way, it's not he goal to turn of everything that throws an error... ;)
[02:08] <Razor-X> but both Konsole and Eterm bring up BASH :(
[02:09] <roo_> Razor-X, sorry i missed it, what are you trying to do?
[02:09] <Razor-X> I can run zsh in BASH, but that's sorta pointless no?
[02:09] <Razor-X> roo_: make zsh my default shell
[02:09] <Razor-X> I ran chsh -s /bin/zsh already
[02:09] <cato_> i keep getting this message in my Xorg.0.log.. "Kernel Module version does *not* match driver." How can i make the kernel module version compatible with the driver? (Im using the Ati universal installer from ati.com).. fglrx kernel module says its version: 8.8.25
[02:09] <roo_> Razor-X, logged in/out ?
[02:09] <Razor-X> then I tried sudo -s /bin/zsh username
[02:09] <Razor-X> roo_: do you need to do that?
[02:09] <roo_> Razor-X, yes :)
[02:09] <Razor-X> aggghhh, ok ;)
[02:09] <roo_> Razor-X, log out properly
[02:09] <Razor-X> brb people
[02:09] <roo_> Razor-X, might need restart depending on ur setup
[02:09] <blake__> can anyone help me out?
[02:09] <roo_> oops, too ate :)
[02:10] <brian__> driver does not support the firegl x11 extentions
[02:10] <roo_> blake__, nobody can help you if you dont tell them what u need :)
[02:10] <brian__> thats what i get from trying to run ati control panel
[02:10] <blake__> i tried and got yelled at for posting the error
[02:10] <blake__> Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[02:10] <r0bby> I think i got it
[02:11] <Razor-X> Live the ZSH ;)
[02:11] <luke2> Does anyone know a good video player that can do .wmv?
[02:11] <Razor-X> the prompt feels weird, meh
[02:11] <frank> blake__: you need 3d drivers for your card
[02:11] <Razor-X> plus, you aren't seeing the default directory
[02:11] <frank> luke2: they all can, you need w32codecs
[02:11] <r0bby> yay i got it!
[02:11] <r0bby> :D
[02:11] <Razor-X> s/default/current/
[02:11] <Razor-X> just the box name
[02:11] <blake__> i have the latest nvidia drivers installed and enabled
[02:12] <luke2> frank: Okay. So Totem will work fine?
[02:12] <frank> luke2: I think it should although I don't use it
[02:12] <cato_> How do i install the fglrx kernel module 8.14.13-2 ?
[02:12] <luke2> frank: You got a preference on an app?
[02:12] <frank> blake__: glxinfo | grep direct
[02:12] <blake__> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[02:13] <frank> luke2: I run kde, so I mostly use kaffeine. you could also try mplayer
[02:13] <blake__> yea, i use mplayer from video files
[02:13] <kozlyk> can anyone help me work through a samba problem?
[02:13] <luke2> frank: Thanks. Getting back into Linux here. Setting up my stuff.
[02:13] <luke2> frank: I appreciate it.
[02:14] <frank> blake__: was that error from glxinfo?
[02:14] <frank> luke2: np
[02:14] <blake__> correct
[02:14] <frank> blake__: did you restart X
[02:14] <blake__> yes
[02:14] <salapoliisi> !theme
[02:14] <ubotu> theme is, like, http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/
[02:14] <blake__> i even reinstalled the drivers after a kernel upgrade
[02:14] <frank> paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to pastebin
[02:14] <roo_> Razor-X, all working now?
[02:15] <salapoliisi> how do i copy in linux putty?
[02:15] <nevin> salapoliisi: highlighting it should work
[02:15] <roo_> salapoliisi, try highlighting text to copy and middle click to paste
[02:15] <roo_> salapoliisi, or shift+insert to paste
[02:15] <salapoliisi> oh middleclick :)
[02:16] <salapoliisi> roo_: i only asked how to copy, but anyway thanks :)
[02:16] <Razor-X> does zsh auto-echo the command you feed it?
[02:16] <frank> blake__: well you have no 3d acceleration right now
[02:16] <roo_> Razor-X, huh? auto echo?!
[02:16] <Razor-X> roo_: if I type in, say print $ZSH_VERSION
[02:16] <Razor-X> it prints my command
[02:16] <Razor-X> then it prints the output
[02:16] <blake__> that doesn't seem right... my 3d screensavers are flying compared to before i had nvidia drivers installed
[02:17] <roo_> Razor-X, if i understand you correctly then yes.
[02:17] <Razor-X> roo_: mmmkay
[02:17] <roo_> Razor-X, there is a nice .zshrc to get you started..
[02:17] <Razor-X> roo_: hehe
[02:17] <blake__> Driver		"nv"
[02:17] <Razor-X> I gotta start converting my aliases ;)
[02:17] <frank> blake__: really? well glxinfo should not give you an error
[02:17] <roo_> Razor-X, http://dev.gentoo.org/~slarti/conf/zshrc.html
[02:18] <roo_> Razor-X, this one is very nice. the guy, slarti is a gentoo dev. drop him an email if you find it useful :)
[02:18] <Razor-X> roo_: I will ;)
[02:18] <roo_> Razor-X, and btw, zsh is fucking awesome. use this zshrc and you'l see magic happening right in front of you.
[02:18] <vinux> hey guys how do I make my gnome menu transparent?
[02:18] <frank> blake__: driver should be nvidia
[02:18] <blake__> frank, well the only thing that i can think of is that i did an upgrade through apt-get from warty to hoary, so from xfree86 to xorg...
[02:19] <blake__> lemme try a dpkg-reconfigure
[02:20] <Razor-X> roo_: en_GB?
[02:20] <Razor-X> what language is that?
[02:20] <comforteagle> I just installed postfix.. but what must I add to the config to get it to deliver mail outside to other domains?
[02:20] <blake__> engilsh great britian
[02:20] <vinux> what is zsh?
[02:20] <blake__> frank, autodetect is giving me nv, which it always has, and is right about nvidia
[02:20] <Razor-X> blake__: that's what I thought
[02:21] <luke2> vinux: A shell similar to ksh
[02:21] <Razor-X> vinux: it's an alternate shell
[02:21] <procrastinator> Why do i get "Icon not found" when I try to set an icon for beep-media-player? Gnome has some sort of phobia for the BMP icon - all other images work fine, except that icon. I've tried svg, png and xpm, the same all over.
[02:21] <roo_> vinux, the best shell in the world.
[02:21] <vinux> roo_, cool
[02:21] <frank> blake__: if the nvidia drivers are really installed, you can edit xorg.conf by hand
[02:21] <luke2> vinux: Most distros/people use bash. zsh is cool though.
[02:22] <roo_> bash being the "standard" distro shell is one of the mysteries i cant explain.
[02:22] <roo_> zsh does everything bash can do. bash cannot do some of the coolest things zsh can do.
[02:22] <luke2> Me either. It works though.
[02:22] <blake__> frank, GLcore wasn't being loaded by default due to the xorg upgrade... i think that may be the problem
[02:22] <Razor-X> roo_: Eshell does some nice zsh stuff
[02:23] <roo_> Razor-X, so ive heard, havent tried it yet.
[02:23] <Razor-X> that's why I wanted to make my default shell zsh
[02:23] <Razor-X> roo_: it's nice, IMO
[02:23] <frank> blake__: I don't have that loaded either
[02:23] <luke2> I'll just stick to zsh.
[02:23] <Razor-X> but, obviously Eshell is run in emacs itself, it's not a default shell
[02:23] <vinux> roo_, so when I install it how will I get it to work? Or will it just work in place of bash after I install it?
[02:23] <cato_> is there a way to get the newest ATI drivers while using the "BinaryDriverHowto" guide?..
[02:23] <frank> blake__: Load "glx" and Driver  "nvidia"
[02:23] <roo_> vinux, google for "changing shell", "switch bash to zsh" etc. its very easy :)
[02:23] <vinux> woot thanks
[02:24] <roo_> vinux, just remember to log out/log in afterwards. right Razor-X ? ;)
[02:24] <blake__> who do i do that?
[02:24] <blake__> how*
[02:24] <roo_> btw Razor-X , im a vim guy, hence not trying eshell.
[02:24] <Razor-X> vinux: chsh -s /bin/zsh (after you get it)
[02:24] <Razor-X> roo_: heh ;)
[02:24] <frank> blake__: you edit   sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:24] <r0bby> does grub accept symlinks for menu.lst?
[02:24] <vinux> Razor-X, thanks
[02:24] <r0bby> will grub follow a symlink i mean?
[02:25] <sproingie> r0bby: i doubt it
[02:25] <frank> r0bby: why would need that?
[02:25] <r0bby> because I have a weird setup
[02:25] <roo_> vinux, google for "slarti zshrc" to find a very nice ~/.zshrc to get you going.
[02:25] <blake__> frank, it is already like that
[02:25] <roo_> r0bby, only one way to find out?
[02:25] <r0bby> remind me why i'm being an idiot and using breezy :P
[02:25] <Razor-X> vinux: http://dev.gentoo.org/~slarti/conf/zshrc.html
[02:26] <r0bby> lol
[02:26] <Razor-X> roo_: I still have it in my kill ring ;)
[02:26] <frank> blake__: and you restarted X and glxinfo doesn't work???  you can also comment out #Load "dri"
[02:26] <r0bby> but yeh
[02:26] <roo_> Razor-X, kill ring? huh?
[02:26] <blake__> correct
[02:26] <roo_> Razor-X, oh, emacs talk.
[02:27] <roo_> :p
[02:27] <r0bby> I like vim :D
[02:27] <frank> blake__: dri is commented out?
[02:27] <blake__> brb
[02:27] <blake__> yea
[02:27] <blake__> gonna try again
[02:27] <luke2> Me too. vim is the best.
[02:27] <Razor-X> everyone likes vim, because they hear emacs is so huge and shy away
[02:27] <luke2> Bahh. emacs is overrated.
[02:28] <roo_> Razor-X, i tried emacs first. it was veeery powerful, but i only needed a text editor and a text editor only.
[02:28] <cafuego> Razor-X: It's has nothing to do with huge and everything with overkill
[02:28] <roo_> and by golly, the best text editor in the world.
[02:28] <Razor-X> sadly, emacs probably takes 1/6 of the amount of the memory your browser ;)
[02:28] <Firetech> There is one reason not to use zsh in ubuntu, and that is UTF-8. I use it anyway, but each time I enter a foreign character, the command line gets confused.
[02:29] <Razor-X> cafuego: as an example, can you add a `\' behind every instance of ``log'' in a LaTeX file without learning regexps? ;)
[02:29] <roo_> Firetech, ah, thanks for that. i am ignorant to such things because i dont use/need utf-8..
[02:29] <Razor-X> Firetech: Eterm doesen't support utf-8 either
[02:29] <luke2> Firetech: Whenever I enter a foreign character he gets deported. :)
[02:29] <cafuego> Razor-X: Sure, but I'd not use LaTeX to begin with.
[02:29] <Razor-X> but screen circumvents that ;)
[02:29] <roo_> Razor-X, regexen were *designed* for that job! what merit for not using them? :/
[02:29] <cafuego> :%s/log/log\\/g
[02:29] <Razor-X> cafuego: how 'bout removing every instance of an IRC nick from a file?
[02:29] <Razor-X> roo_: I know regexps
[02:29] <Alinux> someone speaks in italian ?
[02:30] <cato_> Ok, does anyone know what this means? Im trying to build the fglrx modules inside /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod .. with make.sh.. and during the "making" i get this: Warning: could not find /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/.libfglrx_ip.a.GCC3.cmd for /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/libfglrx_ip.a.GCC3
[02:30] <cafuego> Razor-X: Of course.
[02:30] <roo_> Razor-X, so if you know them and they can do they job, why not use them?
[02:30] <Sisma> Io
[02:30] <Razor-X> but, with the emacs macro, regexps have become obsolete
[02:30] <cato_> would that affect anything?
[02:30] <Razor-X> Alinux: try #ubuntu-it
[02:30] <Alinux> Razor-X, thanks!
[02:30] <cafuego> Razor-X: That's a bit narrow minded, in case you end up working on an emacs-free (yes, I'm going to buy the domain) system.
[02:30] <Razor-X> cafuego: well, I know my regexps
[02:30] <roo_> Razor-X, hm, i dont care if they're obsolete. regexen are a tool that perform an important job effectively.
[02:31] <Razor-X> some things emacs macros just aren't powerful enough to do (comparitive to the amount of work the regexp takes)
[02:31] <Razor-X> and emacs regexp support is tres horrible
[02:31] <cafuego> Razor-X: And I'm sure I can make sed and/or awk and/or tr work a lot faster than emacs.
[02:31] <Razor-X> (which is why I use sed)
[02:31] <Razor-X> cafuego: doubt it
[02:31] <Razor-X> on a modern system, they both work just has fast
[02:31] <roo_> cafuego, i was just gonna say that there are other text processors you could use that can whip emacs macros AND regex..
[02:31] <cafuego> Razor-X: They're _done_ before emacs even finishes starting
[02:32] <Razor-X> cafuego: you've obviously used a warped version of emacs
[02:32] <Razor-X> an emacs with no addons starts up instantly
[02:32] <Razor-X> it's a total _myth_ that emacs takes hours to load and takes up gobs of memory
[02:32] <cato_> build succeeded with return value 0
[02:32] <cato_>     :o ??
[02:32] <cafuego> Razor-X: Not on my 1.8GHz AMD64 with 1.5GB or ram it doesn't.
[02:32] <castors> um..
[02:32] <cafuego> Razor-X: vim is instantaneous, emacs is not.
[02:33] <castors> hello ;)
[02:33] <HrdwrBoB> emacs runs fine on my dual core opteron with 4gm ram
[02:33] <HrdwrBoB> 4gb
[02:33] <Burgundavia> cafuego, Razor-X flame wars can be taken elsewhere please
[02:33] <Burgundavia> HrdwrBoB, you too
[02:33] <roo_> ol HrdwrBoB
[02:33] <cafuego> Burgundavia: I'm not flaming, mate.
[02:33] <HrdwrBoB> *ahem*
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: I take it that means it has finished building successfully
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> er cato_
[02:34] <cafuego> it's just a useless discussion about whether certain software does or does not start fast on my hardware ;-)
[02:35] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: No, it's only at 61.2%
[02:35] <SdEf> there is any program for linux like Everest, cpu-z or similar that sais ram information and timmings?
[02:35] <kozlyk> what is the number to make a directory writable from another computer?
[02:35] <cafuego> SdEf: try 'read-edid'
[02:36] <Madpilot> evening, all
[02:36] <cafuego> kozlyk: 4
[02:36] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: no, I lie. 2.
[02:36] <nevin> kozlyk: there's no difference between permissions for locally and remotly mounted filesystems
[02:36] <cafuego> kozlyk: Writable for whom? owner, group or other?
[02:36] <kozlyk> user
[02:36] <cafuego> kozlyk: 0700
[02:37] <windex> hi guys. question: does ubuntu support any network authentication methods (e.g. nss samba) out of the box? i don't see anything in aptitude search.
[02:37] <cafuego> kozlyk: That's full perms for use, nothing for anyone else
[02:37] <kozlyk> it is set for 755 right now
[02:37] <cafuego> kozlyk: *nod*
[02:37] <Surfdue_> hellooo
[02:37] <cafuego> kozlyk: write for user, read for everyone else
[02:37] <Surfdue_> my pcmicia card disabls when i enable it
[02:37] <nevin> kolzyk: you said another computer, it doesn't matter what computer, permissions are always the same
[02:37] <SdEf> cafuego: read-edid isn't for monitor only?
[02:38] <cafuego> SdEf: Mine also has ram info, I'm sure. let me see.
[02:38] <nevin> kolzyk: unless you export an nfs filesystem ALL read only
[02:38] <kozlyk> so what is the number for read/write for everyone in that one directory?
[02:38] <Surfdue_> in dmesg it says wlan0: no ipv6 routers persent
[02:38] <nevin> kozlyk: 777
[02:38] <Madpilot> 777
[02:38] <kozlyk> k
[02:38] <nevin> ANYONE ca read/write/execute then
[02:38] <Madpilot> which is not always a good thing...
[02:38] <cafuego> Or maybe I'm on crack.
[02:39] <nevin> kozlyk: try looking up "relative permissions" on google, they're easier to set stuff with
[02:39] <goldfish> no way
[02:39] <goldfish> octal 4ever.
[02:39] <TheSin> and still breezy xutils is not fixed, yay :D
[02:39] <TheSin> just checking :P lates all
[02:39] <cafuego> TheSin: /topic
[02:39] <goldfish> you should set the sticky bit, so users can only delte their own files.
[02:39] <TheSin> cafuego, yup that is what I was refering to
[02:40] <cafuego> TheSin: Mine works fine, though. Just need a bit of user intervention, deletion and downgrading
[02:40] <TheSin> cafuego, well mkfontdir is missing from xutils
[02:40] <The_Vox> cafuego: I wouldn't call that "working" :)
[02:40] <TheSin> I suppose if i downgrade that it'd be okay
[02:40] <cafuego> TheSin: No, *everything* is missing from xutils ;-)
[02:40] <TheSin> thanks for the idea cafuego
[02:40] <TheSin> hehe totally
[02:40] <cafuego> TheSin: Luckily xutils -34 or so works fine.
[02:41] <TheSin> but with out fonts, no x11 :D
[02:41] <TheSin> I gonna try that thanks
[02:44] <IFRFLYR> Hi, is there a way to limit cpu scaling, say, make a ceiling of 1.2GHz as opposed to its max of 1.5, or is it an all or nothing thing?
[02:44] <luke2> Sorry for a stupid question -- it's been a while: To install .deb packages just use dpkg --install foobar.deb
[02:44] <luke2> Right?
[02:44] <bimberi> luke2: dpkg -i foobar.deb
[02:44] <luke2> Always used rpms in the past. My first debian based os.
[02:44] <luke2> bimberi: Thanks
[02:44] <cafuego> IFRFLYR: mebbe if you hack the acpi module responsible for scaling
[02:44] <Surfdue_> anyone
[02:44] <Razor-X> back
[02:44] <Burgundavia> luke2, yes, but most programs are in the repositories
[02:44] <Surfdue_> pcmica why does it disable?
[02:45] <bimberi> luke2: np - although if the program can be installed via synaptic do that
[02:45] <IFRFLYR> Hi, cafuego, thanks. I guess this is a question, then for ubuntu-devel?
[02:45] <Burgundavia> IFRFLYR, no
[02:45] <luke2> bimberi: It was w32codecs. Didn't see it in Synaptic.
[02:45] <IFRFLYR> Burgundavia, Oh/?
[02:45] <cafuego> IFRFLYR: kernel development
[02:45] <IFRFLYR> Ah!
[02:45] <IFRFLYR> where they be?
[02:46] <cafuego> IFRFLYR: it might be a nice feature for the acpi module to take max_mhz as param or something
[02:46] <cafuego> IFRFLYR: mailing list, google for LKML
[02:46] <IFRFLYR> That's what I was thinking, rather than just switching it flat off, setting it to something reasonable
[02:46] <Razor-X> print %n
[02:46] <Razor-X> gah!
[02:46] <Razor-X> sorry ;)
[02:46] <qpid> licht und farben :D PARTY
[02:46] <IFRFLYR> when you need to.
[02:46] <IFRFLYR> Thanks!
[02:47] <procrastinator> I love you guys!
[02:47] <procrastinator> I just wanted you to know that.
[02:47] <procrastinator> Goodnight!
[02:47] <Surfdue_> :|
[02:47] <windex> let's try again. :D question: does ubuntu support any network authentication methods (e.g. nss-samba, ldap, etc) out of the box (or via aptitude in the default post-install packages)? i don't see anything in aptitude search.
[02:47] <Surfdue_> night
[02:48] <qpid> why u call youre self windex?
[02:49] <windex> i've used the name for a very, very long time. any original purpose i had is long forgotten. :)
[02:49] <tikka> I have a dilema, I wish to permit other users to access drives I have mounted. Currently they recieve ACCESS DENIED.. anyone available to assist me?
[02:50] <kozlyk> has anyone had a problem with zonealarm preventing them from accessing an ubuntu samba server?
[02:50] <cafuego> windex: Yes, but you'll need to set up PAM to use said method.
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> well pam is already in use
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> but yes, you can change it to use network authentication
[02:50] <cafuego> tikka: set permissions. if they're FAT32, check the uid, gid and umask options in 'man fstab'.
[02:51] <tikka> kozlyk,  Turn it off.. if u can get on the samba server u know its zone alarm........... in that instance check ur ZA settings
[02:51] <qpid> sry but i take a nip to much:D
[02:51] <HrdwrBoB> windex: are you also searching in universe?
[02:51] <cato_> can i install the kernel-source-2.6.10-5-386 ?
[02:51] <kozlyk> tikka:  i have figured it is zonealarm now, just wondering if there was a setting specifically for local network access
[02:51] <tikka> i did man mount.. which showed me information regarding the uid and gid, saying that the uid is set to 0 as default. so ..
[02:51] <cato_> if there even is such a source?
[02:51] <tikka> zone alarm is pretty pants
[02:51] <windex> HrdwrBoB: no. i'm hoping for something that's paid more attention to than universe. :)
[02:52] <tikka> cafuego, also its ntfs. makes any difference?
[02:52] <HrdwrBoB> windex: heh, a lot of the stuff in universe is still maintained, just not 'officially'
[02:53] <tikka> kozlyk, dare i suggest uninstalling ZA .. so that it prompts you next time you attempt it. google for permitting the lan range of ips.. since i havent a clue where u set that.
[02:53] <goldfish> tikka: mount -t ntfs /dev/BLAH /mnt/foo -oumask=000
[02:53] <Burgundavia> windex, the stuff in universe has people looking after it. Universe merely means that you cannot pay canonical money to support you with it
[02:53] <tikka> goldfish, thanks
[02:53] <windex> well, basically what i want to be able to do is configure authentication across an entire network of ubuntu without adding software not in the default install and main for installation on machines. :)
[02:54] <tikka> cafuego, thanks for the help.
[02:54] <tikka> goldfish, thank you loads for getting me out of a situation i needed a fast solution too.
[02:55] <SdEf> cafuego: if couldn't find read-edid ram timing information, only for read monitor timings, can you explain how to use it?
[02:55] <HrdwrBoB> windex: I'm not sure that it's easily possible
[02:56] <windex> HrdwrBoB: im figuring that out. :)
[02:56] <yang> hello
[02:56] <yang> i have a question here
[02:56] <HrdwrBoB> yang: better ask it then
[02:56] <HrdwrBoB> :)
[02:56] <windex> HrdwrBoB: i think in order to do it i am going to have to build a package and configure a site-specific apt repository
[02:57] <goldfish> tikka: no problem.
[02:57] <yang> i've just insalled a beagle from synaptic, but i cannot run it, what should i do
[02:58] <windex> HrdwrBoB: but since i should set up a mirror server anyway so security updates aren't downloaded a hundred times over..
[02:58] <cafuego> yang: Run 'beagled' and pray it doesn't crash immediately.
[02:58] <cafuego> SdEf: No, I was on crack, it's not in there.
[02:58] <yang> i'll try
[02:58] <SdEf> oh, ok
[02:59] <cafuego> yang: and then run 'best'
[02:59] <ed1t> does anybody know the link for winmac_fstab ?
[03:00] <cafuego> !listvals winmac
[03:00] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'winmac' by value (7 shown): vfat ;; ntfs ;; hfs+ ;; user accessible ntfs ;; hfs ;; fat32 ;; hfsplus.
[03:00] <cafuego> !vfat
[03:00] <ubotu> I heard vfat is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[03:00] <ed1t> thx
[03:01] <yang> cafuego: it said "Beagle Daemon exited with errors"
[03:01] <Andares> Hi.
[03:01] <Andares> How do I fix this?
[03:01] <Andares> libfontconfig1-dev:
[03:01] <Andares>   Depends: libfontconfig1 (=2.2.3-4ubuntu7) but 2.3.1-2 is to be installed
[03:01] <cafuego> yang: Yeah, it does that. Just give up until they fix the code.
[03:01] <ed1t> cafuego, do you know any software for win xp from where i can access read/write on linux ext3 partitions?
[03:02] <som1> how can i tell ubuntu to use a proxy for everything/something specific that doesnt support proxy use?
[03:02] <Andares> I suck at apt-get, when I try to uninstall libfontconfig1 it threatens to uninstall every goddamn package I have.
[03:02] <yang> cafuego: wha?.. o my... :D
[03:02] <cafuego> ed1t: Payware for write, freeware for read...
[03:02] <som1> ed1t ex2fs can read, im not sure if write
[03:02] <Davey> my .desktop files are trying to run as scripts, what did I break and how can I fix it? :)
[03:02] <yang> cafuego: thanx anyway
[03:02] <Burgundavia> Andares, do you have non-ubuntu repos in your sources.list?
[03:02] <Andares> Burgundavia, yea.
[03:02] <Andares> Why?
[03:02] <Burgundavia> Andares, which ones?
[03:02] <cafuego> ed1t: explore2fs for write access (payware)
[03:03] <ed1t> thx
[03:03] <Andares> Burgundavia, Lets see.... Universe, Multiverse, Wine, and Enlightenment.
[03:03] <cafuego> ed1t: No, I lie.
[03:03] <ed1t> someone told me that there was some project on sf.ne
[03:03] <ed1t> sf.net
[03:03] <Burgundavia> Andares, you have stuff that is compiled for Sarge and not Hoary. That is what is breaking
[03:03] <Burgundavia> Andares, not much you can do
[03:03] <som1> how can i tell ubuntu to use a proxy for everything/something specific that doesnt support proxy use?
[03:03] <som1> :<
[03:03] <Andares> Burgundavia, ...
[03:03] <Andares> Burgundavia, There is always something I can do.
[03:04] <som1> "format and reinstall" is the windows way, Andares.
[03:04] <Andares> And I am not on Windows.
[03:04] <cafuego> ed1t: if the disk is marked as clean, this will also write: http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/
[03:04] <som1> but thats how it works.
[03:04] <HrdwrBoB> windex: yeah
[03:04] <Burgundavia> Andares, is it E or Wine that is trying to install a new fontconfig?
[03:04] <HrdwrBoB> windex: I need to do the same thign here
[03:04] <ed1t> cafuego, i have ext3 partitions
[03:04] <Andares> Burgundavia, neither. Gosu.
[03:04] <cafuego> ed1t: Yes, I just wrote to ext3 using it
[03:05] <ed1t> ok
[03:05] <cafuego> ed1t: just make sure it unmounts cleanly under Linux; then it'll be fine.
[03:05] <Burgundavia> Andares, what is gosu
[03:05] <Burgundavia> ?
[03:06] <Andares> Burgundavia, It's a game sdk.
[03:06] <Burgundavia> ah, ok
[03:06] <Andares> I need to install "pangoft2", which needs this.
[03:06] <Burgundavia> and what is that depending on?
[03:07] <Andares> This.
[03:07] <Andares> libfontconfig1-dev
[03:08] <Andares> Burgundavia, Why does it want to remove every single package I've installed when I try to uninstall libfontconfig1?
[03:08] <Andares> Is this a bug?
[03:08] <Burgundavia> Andares, no
[03:08] <Madpilot> back in a moment... upgrading to Opera 8.02...
[03:08] <Burgundavia> the issue that Hoary is older than Sarge, and thus Wine and E are compiled for Sarge
[03:09] <windex> isin't that the other way around, burg?
[03:09] <windex> sarge was testing, sid was unstable.. hoary is based on sid? :)
[03:09] <Burgundavia> yes, but frozen at an earlier date
[03:09] <windex> ah
[03:10] <Burgundavia> Hoary released in April, Sarge in June
[03:10] <som1> how can i tell ubuntu to use a proxy?
[03:10] <Madpilot> sweet, 8.02 works, I'm back
[03:10] <Burgundavia> som1, system-->prefs-->network proxy
[03:10] <som1> no
[03:10] <som1> i use fvwm
[03:11] <Burgundavia> then I have no idea
[03:11] <jake1> has anyone been able to compile
[03:11] <windex> sounds like you need to find out what system-->prefs-->network proxy does. :)
[03:11] <NovaWo1f> Got a little annoyance issue here.. Whenever I shutdown -h after it goes through everything, and it starts to flush the drives, I get a buncha garbage and a Seg Fault.. Any clue what would cause that?
[03:11] <som1> no ill skip that stage
[03:11] <jake1> wlassistant + install it
[03:11] <som1> and find out how its done myself
[03:12] <Burgundavia> Andares, back to your issue. You might be screwed
[03:12] <cato_> how do i "uninstall" a previously installed package? I installed it with "dpkg -i <package.deb>"
[03:12] <Burgundavia> Andares, you can try and pull the packages and build them your self
[03:12] <Burgundavia> Andares, wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuiderHowto can help you in that
[03:12] <jake1> it says that i failed sanity or something along those lines
[03:13] <windex> cato_: dpkg -r <package.deb>
[03:13] <socomm> cato_: Read dpkg's manual.
[03:13] <socomm> `man dpkg'
[03:14] <gpd> cato_: you should be able to remove it with apt-get remove / aptitude / synaptic...
[03:14] <cato_> tried that.. what i found out was something like dpkg -r --clear-avail <package.deb>.. but that didnt work.. :\ i suck at this.. heh
[03:14] <Burgundavia> cato_, if you have X running, synaptic will tell you about locally installed packages
[03:14] <vader1102> cato: no worries... I do to, that's the reason I sit in here
[03:15] <dbw> anyone know where i can get GPG keys for the backports?
[03:15] <cato_> All this hassle, just to get the newest ati drivers working.. bleh.. is it really worth it?..
[03:15] <som1> no unless you have a problem with the older driver
[03:15] <cato_> i do
[03:15] <cato_> the binarydriverhowto wont let me run games with cedega 4.4
[03:15] <som1> so its worth it
[03:16] <largezhang> hi all. I want to download a package from oldstable of Debian. I put it in the source.lst, but apt seems to  Ign it. What shall I do? Thanks.
[03:16] <Burgundavia> largezhang, which package?
[03:16] <som1> download it manually
[03:17] <cato_> Does anyone know -all- the steps to getting the Universall ati installer working? like, what to install (What i REALLY need to get it working).
[03:17] <largezhang> Burgundavia: libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1
[03:17] <black13> what is command to setup xorg ... its dpkg-reconfigure ... somting right
[03:18] <Burgundavia> largezhang, why are you trying to get that?
[03:18] <astronut> I'm using the live cd to see how well linux handles all of my laptop's hardware....i fixed the PCMIA bus by modifying some PCI stuff, but to get the full features ofmy touchpad, i have to patch the kernel..how can i do this on a live cd? (Can i create a custem kernel on floppy, or reburn the cd, etc)
[03:18] <astronut> black-whisp, xserver-xorg i believe
[03:19] <som1> how can i set a proxy for everything by command?
[03:19] <bimberi> black13: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:20] <astronut> som1, sudo route add default <proxy IP/address>
[03:20] <astronut> ;-)
[03:20] <som1> alright
[03:20] <som1> thanks
[03:20] <NovaWo1f> So, anyone know why when I shutdown I get a seg fault?
[03:20] <astronut> only do that if you know what your'e doing
[03:20] <astronut> because i don't think it's quite what you think
[03:20] <astronut> NovaWo1f, what segfualts
[03:20] <som1> i know what it does
[03:20] <largezhang> Burgundavia: I have an executable stan2000 and it yelled for libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2, which google told is in that package
[03:20] <som1> erm
[03:20] <jake1> anyone here able to help me with compiling a KDE app
[03:21] <black13> bimberi when dpkg-reconfigure runs does it launch a script inside the debian package?
[03:21] <som1> how can i tell it to go after a few hops?
[03:21] <jake1> please
[03:21] <NovaWo1f> Its after it shuts down, and it starts flushing the hdd's, the console scrolls a buncha garbage and ends with a seg fault of some kind.
[03:21] <astronut> som1, i really don't think you realize what that does....
[03:21] <Burgundavia> largezhang, Ubuntu already has a newer version of the libstdc++, so you won't be able to instlal it
[03:21] <som1> i do
[03:21] <jake1> seemingly i have a terminal error output message
[03:21] <astronut> som1, if you say so...
[03:21] <Burgundavia> jake1, you are more likely to find help in #kubuntu
[03:21] <som1> but i need it to go like vxr.tau.ac.il->c6509.tau.ac.il and then my proxy
[03:22] <Burgundavia> largezhang, does stan2000 not work with the version in Ubuntu?
[03:22] <jake1> yea i tried that Burgundavia no one responded
[03:22] <LokeDK> I removed the OpenOffice menu entrys by an accident.. how do I get them back
[03:22] <astronut> som1, if your'e saying that, you REALLY dn't know what route is for
[03:22] <Burgundavia> jake1, what are you compiling. From source or from apt-get source
[03:22] <som1> yes so i dont need that command
[03:22] <bimberi> black13: no idea sorry
[03:22] <astronut> I'm using the live cd to see how well linux handles all of my laptop's hardware....i fixed the PCMIA bus by modifying some PCI stuff, but to get the full features ofmy touchpad, i have to patch the kernel..how can i do this on a live cd? (Can i create a custem kernel on floppy, or reburn the cd, etc)
[03:22] <jake1> source
[03:22] <som1> ANWYAY
[03:23] <jake1> i thought that compiling from source would be the same in gnome and kde
[03:23] <som1> err?
[03:24] <largezhang> Burgundavia: it seems so: stan2000: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director
[03:25] <bimberi> black13: logically though - it would have to be running somthing that was unpacked from the package
[03:25] <jake1> the output says "configure: error C++ preprocessor "/libb/cpp" fails sanity check
[03:25] <jake1> "
[03:25] <bimberi> black13: and using debconf it would seem)
[03:25] <jake1> i am not even sure what that means
[03:25] <black13> bimberi yep ... basically i am working on debian derive i am using for a game project
[03:25] <bimberi> c/)//
[03:25] <jake1> does that mean it needs a phsyciatrist
[03:25] <jake1> ?
[03:25] <black13> bimberi and i need xorg to autoconfigure
[03:26] <black13> bimberi or semi autoconfigure
[03:26] <cafuego> jedix: install build-essential
[03:26] <jedix> hey, has anyone on an amd64 box setup doom3?
[03:27] <jedix> cafuego: you knew the answer before the question?
[03:27] <socomm> jedix: http://www.google.com/linux
[03:27] <cafuego> black13: Any reason you're compiling Xorg instead of just using the package?
[03:27] <bimberi> black13: dpkg-reconfigure has a --priority flag to control the level of questioning
[03:27] <cafuego> jedix: No, tab went bad
[03:27] <jedix> and socomm too I guess?
[03:27] <cafuego> jake1: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[03:27] <punchman> cafuego, many many reasons
[03:27] <black13> cafuego i stop compile serveral weeks back and im using the packages from ubuntu
[03:28] <cafuego> punchman: Yes, but they're normally all bad.
[03:28] <Gnobody> is x fixed in breezy yet?
[03:28] <cafuego> Gnobody: No.
[03:28] <black13> cafuego i stopped flagelating myself and wearing hairshirts
[03:29] <cafuego> black13: Aaah i see. you after 'dpkg-reconfigure -(low|medium|high) xserver-xorg' ?
[03:29] <cafuego> that's -p(low|medium|high)
[03:29] <som1> how can i use a proxy for everything?
[03:30] <som1> ..
[03:30] <cafuego> I swear I'm going dyslexic in my old age
[03:30] <Gnobody> anybody know when Colony 3 should be out?
[03:30] <som1> you cant "go dyslexic"
[03:30] <Gnobody> you can go blind
[03:30] <tech> anyone expirience Xorg locking up and taking 100% cpu? it just happens randomly. i run latest kubuntu the latest ubuntu nvidia driver package. my videocard is nvidia geforce 6600 AGP.
[03:30] <cafuego> som1: set $http_proxy anf $ftp_proxy
[03:30] <som1> you go blind anyway
[03:30] <thespiritoftal> how can i change root password?
[03:30] <punchman> tech, hehehhehehehehehehehheheheh
[03:30] <jake1> i hear that dyslexia does not effect you if you start studying another language
[03:31] <som1> thank you.
[03:31] <cafuego> I can so go lysdexic if i want to!
[03:31] <jake1> such as chinese or arabic
[03:31] <jake1> hey i got a question
[03:31] <som1> but i dont mean for ftp/http
[03:31] <jake1> what does DNA stand for
[03:31] <tech> punchman, what?
[03:31] <jake1> ?
[03:31] <Gnobody> jake1 that is a wisetale
[03:31] <som1> jake1 because you use another part of the brain for it
[03:31] <|rockinnerd|> i'm compiling a new kernel, how do i make an initrd?
[03:31] <black13> cafuego i have spoken to you before havent i
[03:31] <cafuego> (Dexo?) Nucleic Acid
[03:31] <Gnobody> De-oxyrybosnucleicacid
[03:32] <Gnobody> yeah
[03:32] <HrdwrBoB> |rockinnerd|: mkinitrd :)
[03:32] <cafuego> Deoxy yes
[03:32] <jake1> no... wrong... it stands for National Dyslexic Associatin
[03:32] <jake1> :-P
[03:32] <|rockinnerd|> do you really need an initrd?
[03:32] <Gnobody> Ribos Nucleic Acid is RNA
[03:32] <Randall64> breezy has real issues installing
[03:32] <HrdwrBoB> |rockinnerd|: if you want to boot... yes
[03:32] <som1> cafuego, for something other than ftp and http
[03:32] <Randall64> Anyone know how to force it?
[03:32] <cafuego> Randall64: Hecne the /topic - dDO NOT USE BREEZY
[03:32] <Gnobody> I get a kernel panic on the latest Breezy cds
[03:33] <cafuego> Randall64: Any part of that unclear?
[03:33] <|rockinnerd|> HrdwrBoB,  i'm using bootsplash, and it says to make it's own initrd...
[03:33] <Randall64> cafuego: Can you clarify why glibc is broken in hoary?
[03:33] <Gnobody> I never thought I'd see one of those, not even in a dev release
[03:33] <Randall64> cafuego: Because really that's the reason I'm installing breezy.
[03:33] <jake1> whats the difference between breezy and hoary
[03:33] <jake1> ?
[03:33] <Randall64> jake1: broken glibc, for one
[03:33] <som1> breezy doesnt work, hoary does?
[03:33] <Gnobody> newer stuff
[03:33] <cafuego> Randall64: Last I heard it wasn't. Certainly no problems with it here.
[03:34] <som1> :)
[03:34] <punchman> ABI?
[03:34] <cafuego> Randall64: is it giving you any specific errors?
[03:34] <Gnobody> one is the development release the other is the current stable
[03:34] <Randall64> cafuego: As rock-solid as the works for me principle is, I have to disagree.
[03:34] <som1> so how can i use a proxy for something else? not ftp/http
[03:34] <Randall64> cafuego: There are known issues on amd64 that's supposedly fixed in breezy.
[03:34] <PurpleWurld> I'm not getting an "add" button in the network settings.  anybody experiencing similar problems?
[03:34] <Necrosan_> WHen booting the Ubuntu/sparc64 mini network install cd
[03:34] <|rockinnerd|> wait, does >> add something from stdin to the END of a file?
[03:35] <Necrosan_> it locks up at "Booting Linux"
[03:35] <Necrosan_> Any ideas?
[03:35] <astronut> yes
[03:35] <cafuego> som1: use a socks-compatible version of whatever app you want proxy'd
[03:35] <astronut> to |rockinnerd|
[03:35] <astronut> |rockinnerd|: it's append
[03:35] <som1> its not socks
[03:35] <som1> and theres no such thing for what i want to use :(
[03:35] <cafuego> som1: What do you want to proxy then?
[03:35] <Gnobody> Hoary or Breezy Necrosan?
[03:35] <som1> the app?
[03:35] <cafuego> Randall64: I can't help you much without specific errors.
[03:35] <cafuego> som1: yes
[03:35] <Gnobody> necrosan_
[03:35] <som1> cafuego, enemy territory
[03:36] <som1> its a game
[03:36] <Gnobody> what is the problem som1?
[03:36] <cafuego> som1: That's proprietary, god only knows.
[03:36] <Luke> could someone tell me what the command to start the printer admin thing is?
[03:36] <Randall64> cafuego: I don't think you can help anyway, but thanks.
[03:36] <Necrosan_> Gnobody: Hoary
[03:36] <vader1102> I use Hoary, but I am a total noob and I don't use amd 64....this is a no no for me until there are more drivers readily available
[03:36] <Gnobody> killall -9 esd ; et
[03:36] <som1> Gnobody i wanna use a proxy for et.
[03:36] <Gnobody> ^^^ try that som1
[03:36] <som1> no. i can use sound on et.
[03:37] <som1> it works fine
[03:37] <Gnobody> whats the prob?
[03:37] <som1> like i already said
[03:37] <Gnobody> ahh
[03:37] <som1> i wanna use a proxy on et.
[03:37] <Gnobody> proxy
[03:37] <Gnobody> hmm
[03:37] <PurpleWurld> I'm trying to set up wireless access on ubuntu w/ a linksys wusb54gs usb adaptor.  No success w/ ndiswrapper.  Any ideas?
[03:37] <cafuego> som1: WHY do you want to use a proxy for it?
[03:37] <desrt> there's a program out there that lets you log into multiple computers and type the same thing into all of them, right?
[03:37] <som1> because when i connect directly its slower
[03:37] <Necrosan_> Gnobody: locks up on Booting Linux
[03:37] <cafuego> som1: No, you're having a conceptual error.
[03:38] <som1> .....
[03:38] <Gnobody> I seen that problem Necrosan_ on breezy discs but not hoary
[03:38] <Gnobody> beats me
[03:38] <Randall64> PurpleWurld: If that is using the chipset I think it does, look for the rt2400 driver on sf.net.
[03:38] <cafuego> som1: Running it through a piece of software on a machine between you and the server is _not_ going to speed it up.
[03:38] <Luke> could someone tell me what the command to start the printer admin application in System/Admin/Printer is?
[03:38] <som1> it already has
[03:38] <Necrosan_> Gnobody: On Sparc64?
[03:38] <PurpleWurld> thnx randall64...I'll try that
[03:38] <|rockinnerd|> thx
[03:38] <cafuego> som1: it migth be dropping more packets and making it SEEM faster, but that's a different issue.
[03:39] <Gnobody> Sparc64 and Itanium are real oddballs and are not supported that well by Ubuntu
[03:39] <Necrosan_> yeah
[03:39] <Necrosan_> heh
[03:39] <som1> so i wanna check it
[03:39] <Gnobody> try debian
[03:39] <cafuego> som1: I guess you could try doing DNAT on the in-between box, but that again would have NO positive effect on data throughput
[03:39] <som1> that never stopped me before
[03:41] <som1> well
[03:41] <som1> how?
[03:41] <kadigibox> wholy crap...... ubuntu send me a bunch of CDs and I only ordered 10CDs but I got more like 90 or something like that
[03:41] <som1> thats what happens when you order 10 cds.
[03:42] <kadigibox> I didnt know they started makeing live CDs for all 3 arcitectures
[03:42] <Geek> hey guys!
[03:42] <Geek> someone here active?
[03:43] <som1> i can do alot of things with cds.
[03:43] <Geek> ah hello! =)
[03:43] <som1> hi
[03:43] <Madpilot> 90 CDs - that's a bunch of potential converts to Ubuntu!
[03:43] <Geek> need some help please
[03:43] <Madpilot> i've been burning LiveCDs and giving them to friends & family
[03:43] <som1> i wasnt planning to keep the cds in one piece
[03:43] <som1> :)
[03:43] <kadigibox> I dont use ubuntu myself but all computers I sell are ubuntu computers
[03:43] <vader1102> Geek ask and they shall answer
[03:44] <Geek> okay
[03:44] <Madpilot> Geek: "Don't ask to ask, just ask."
[03:44] <som1> old
[03:45] <kadigibox> although the fact that there is an AMD64 disk I may switch to ubuntu as Debian doesnt realy have an official relice of AMD64
[03:45] <[teh] > i suck
[03:45] <Geek> well i just set up my server with the ubuntu install CD and i choose the server installation... well im not used to this runlevel.. just to the gui.. how can i download apache without a gui?
[03:45] <[teh] > i thought this machine was locked
[03:45] <som1> why when installing grub (with ubuntu) it doesnt notice netbsd?
[03:45] <[teh] > i typed my root password into xchat
[03:45] <[teh] > :(
[03:45] <Madpilot> !lamp
[03:45] <ubotu> lamp is, like, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary
[03:45] <Madpilot> Geek: see the URL that ubotu just posted
[03:45] <som1> [teh] , change it then
[03:46] <[teh] > doesn't matter though
[03:46] <[teh] > im not running ssh
[03:46] <dcgarri> wow... hey is there a place where I can go and not be an annoying new guy?
[03:46] <Geek> ah thx
[03:46] <[teh] > so nobody can get in
[03:46] <dcgarri> (and also get some answers)
[03:46] <som1> dcgarri, outside
[03:47] <jake1> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins tallation and add the correct paths!
[03:47] <Randall64> Is there a hoary mini-iso?
[03:47] <timl> so, anyone know is breezy is safe atm?
[03:47] <jake1> what do i do now
[03:47] <jake1> anyone?
[03:47] <som1> no timl
[03:47] <som1> its not
[03:47] <timl> what's it's current major problem?
[03:47] <som1> "it doesnt work"
[03:47] <timl> that topic has been like that for quite some time :)
[03:48] <Geek> okay and another question: while the installation it didnt ask me for a root password.. and now i cant log on as root cause of that.. what is the standard password for root or how do i change it
[03:48] <timl> "doesn't work" it'll make my computer explode or "doesn't work" one or two things are still a little flakey
[03:48] <Randall64> I couldn't get breezy rc2 (or whatever it was #2) to install
[03:48] <som1> explode i dont think so
[03:48] <jake1> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins tallation and add the correct paths!
[03:48] <jake1> can someone help me with that?
[03:49] <Randall64> argh, 600MB iso instead of 40-85 mini
[03:49] <cato_> finally! wee! managed to get the ati drivers working.. after like.. 2 days of tinkering around.. *sigh*.. well, its worth it.. i can play guildwars now.. :D
[03:49] <cato_> dont ask me how i did it though.. :p
[03:49] <dcgarri> yo cato.
[03:49] <dcgarri> i'm looking for the same answer
[03:49] <som1> so
[03:49] <dcgarri> lol sorry
[03:50] <cato_> dcgarri, sorry, but i dont really know what i did.. heh.. :p
[03:50] <dcgarri> yeah i'm new though, so anything other than "click this" will be over my head
[03:50] <som1> cafuego how do i use that thing u said?
[03:50] <cato_> dcgarri, i just build the kernel module
[03:50] <dcgarri> lol yeah i'll just go cry for a while then try to read the online docs
[03:50] <Geek> yea like me
[03:50] <som1> and why is ubuntu ignoring my netbsd installation?
[03:51] <cato_> dcgarri, i just went through all of that.. and boy .. its annoying
[03:51] <Randall64> som1: What should it do to it?
[03:51] <cato_> dcgarri, hold on.. ill post a link for you
[03:51] <jake1> cafuego??
[03:51] <oni_> i'm not getting sound in VLC
[03:51] <som1> Randall64 if it atleast installs grub it should show netbsd
[03:51] <jake1> anyone???
[03:51] <jake1> i'm desperate
[03:51] <cato_> dcgarri, i went through these steps.. :) and ill also post my xorg.conf for you..  : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=122362&postcount=6
[03:51] <Randall64> som1: and BeOS!
[03:51] <som1> jake1 whats the problem
[03:51] <jake1> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins tallation and add the correct paths!
[03:51] <som1> oh
[03:52] <jake1> i got that message on a compilation i did
[03:52] <oni_> can anyone help in VLC?
[03:52] <jake1> and i am not sure exactly what to do with it
[03:52] <som1> so get the includes
[03:52] <jake1> is it jst called includes
[03:52] <som1> Randall64 anyway, netbsd is not new or something
[03:52] <kadigibox> oni_, what you need help with on VLC?
[03:52] <Madpilot> wow, that's pathetic - somebody's already produced a "Win Vista" skinset for Opera 8... ick...
[03:52] <jake1> apt-get install x includes?
[03:52] <oni_> I'm using ESD and it's not working with VLC
[03:52] <som1> killall esd
[03:52] <Shinikake> hi everyone
[03:53] <cato_> dcgarri, and this is my xorg.conf.. http://pastebin.com/324311
[03:53] <MiMoSiN-> someone has installed ieee80211?
[03:53] <oni_> anyone help?
[03:53] <black13> what does dpkg-reconfigure do?
[03:53] <MiMoSiN-> I am trying to upgrade my wireless card modules (ipw2200)
[03:53] <Shinikake> i'm having problems with my wireless as well.
[03:54] <jake1> som1: wats the name of the package'
[03:54] <jake1> ?
[03:54] <arbir> hi bob2
[03:54] <som1> no idea
[03:54] <som1> im off
[03:54] <dcgarri> hey cato, thanks a ton!
[03:55] <caonex> Hello, my dad just installed ubuntu hoary, and after login into gnome, he got a problem with HAL, it says unable to initialize HAL, and he is only able to see the an empty desktop with a brown background and two empty bars, one at the top and one at the bottom. Basically, he is unable to do anything, why is htis? is there any way to fix it?
[03:55] <arbir> i am trying to turn off a service using update-rc.d. how do i specify the default number for that service ?
[03:55] <arbir>  update-rc.d -n ppp stop 14 2 .0
[03:55] <arbir> System startup links for /etc/init.d/ppp already exist.
[03:56] <arbir> anybody here ?
[03:57] <Geek> yep
[03:57] <arbir> hi geek
[03:57] <Geek> hey
[03:58] <arbir> how do you do ?
[03:58] <Shinikake> I have a passphrase in place of a weap key, i've tried entering it in as "s:passphrase"  and i've tried converting it to hex values, but it still doesn't obtain an ip from the dhcp server.  i've tested the connection successfully using windows.  the error message i'm getting is: NO DHCPOFFERS received.  No working lleases in persistant database - sleeping.
[03:58] <salapoliisi> can i install doom3 to 64bit ubuntu?
[03:58] <Geek> sure =)
[03:58] <Geek> im fine thanks and u?
[03:58] <arbir> Gekk how do i disable a service in Ubuntu
[03:58] <arbir> update-rc.d keeps failing for me
[03:58] <HrdwrBoB> salapoliisi: no
[03:58] <gpd> arbir: try sysvconfig
[03:58] <HrdwrBoB> salapoliisi: it's a 32bit program
[03:58] <oni_> how do I share IP?
[03:58] <arbir> ok gpd
[03:59] <Geek> =)
[03:59] <oni_> like the OS X command for sharing IP
[03:59] <salapoliisi> HrdwrBoB: isnt there any way to run doom3 in 64bit ubuntu?
[03:59] <|rockinnerd|> salapoliisi, cedega?
[03:59] <goldfish> chroot it to a 32-bit evironment.
[03:59] <arbir> sysvconfig
[03:59] <arbir> bash: sysvconfig: command not found
[03:59] <gpd> arbir: do apt-get install sysvconfig...
[03:59] <salapoliisi> can you give me tutorial to make chroot 32bit?
[04:00] <arbir> gpd
[04:00] <goldfish> salapoliisi: nope, the forums can.
[04:00] <oni_> anyone knows how to share iP?
[04:00] <salapoliisi> goldfish: can you give me link to forums?
[04:00] <gpd> oni_: your question doesn't make sense...
[04:00] <PurpleWurld> there is no "add" button in my 'networking' section under system configuration.  does anyopne know what may cause this?
[04:01] <caonex> How can i fix ubuntu from saying failure initializing hal?
[04:01] <arbir> Get:1 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe dialog 1.0-20041222-1 [180kB] 
[04:01] <arbir> Get:2 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe sysvconfig 0.10 [23.4kB] 
[04:01] <arbir> ----- is it ok to get from Universe ?
[04:01] <gpd> caonex: check that dbus-1 is running
[04:01] <gpd> arbir: yes
[04:01] <PurpleWurld> who are you speaking to arbir?
[04:02] <arbir> i am talking to gpd PurpleWOrld
[04:02] <arbir> i miss chkconfig from redhat :-(
[04:02] <arbir> this sysvconfig looks good.. but i like the CLI stuff.. not menu stuff
[04:02] <PurpleWurld> The problem is, I cannot get internet access on that machine w/o wireless access :(.  I need to "add" the connection
[04:02] <caonex> gpd, i just installed a fresh new copy, running for the first time, why would it not be?
[04:02] <oni_> how I can share Internet coneccion with another computer connected to my lan?
[04:03] <trulux> heya
[04:03] <gpd> caonex: possible hardware failiure, DVD problem / cd in drive... ???
[04:03] <trulux> anyone here has successfully set an iPod photo to work on Hoary with gtkpod?
[04:03] <|rockinnerd|> oni_: get a router :)
[04:03] <arbir> gpd, thanks for this Util... looks cool.
[04:03] <oni_> and routerless?
[04:04] <arbir> but i want to learn the hard way also :-). or else i miss linux
[04:04] <arbir> in fact Ubuntu
[04:04] <|rockinnerd|> net.ipv4.forward = 1 i think
[04:04] <|rockinnerd|> google it
[04:04] <|rockinnerd|> nvm brb
[04:04] <gpd> arbir: just hand edit the symlinks in /etc/rcX.d then ;)
[04:04] <|rockinnerd|> i've got it somewhere...
[04:04] <jake1> i hate compiling shit
[04:04] <oni_> net.ipv4.foward?
[04:04] <jake1> i really wish there were more installers available
[04:05] <gpd> jake1: what are you trying to build?
[04:05] <Geek> lol its 4AM here in austria
[04:05] <jake1> wireless assistant
[04:05] <jake1> app for kde
[04:05] <arbir> gpd.. i could do that... but how do i determine that numbers
[04:05] <|rockinnerd|> oni_, you have to echo it to something in /proc
[04:05] <jake1> i keep missing something
[04:05] <jake1> like now i am missing libXext
[04:06] <arbir> for example S14ppp would become K?PPP @ gpd
[04:06] <gpd> arbir: the numbers are just the order they are started or stopped in...
[04:06] <arbir> right
[04:06] <|rockinnerd|> oni_: http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto/linux-share-internet.asp
[04:06] <jake1> and unfortunately finding half this shit ain't easy
[04:06] <jake1> gpd
[04:07] <frank> jake1: well usually you can find everything you need to build on synaptic
[04:07] <|rockinnerd|> oni_, http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[04:08] <jake1> yea but i cnt type in libXext and get that
[04:08] <jake1> as it is not seemingly listed
[04:08] <gpd> jake1: why do you need wireless assistant?  if it is your router you should just be able to hand edit /etc/networking/interfaces with a few lines
[04:08] <frank> do searches in synaptic, its there!
[04:08] <jake1> gpd: but i cnt see all the other routers
[04:09] <jake1> such as when i am in public wifi access areas
[04:09] <|rockinnerd|> s/my/his
[04:09] <Randall64> Who said that?
[04:09] <jake1> gpd: how can i find out what i need to get to have libXext?
[04:10] <abarbaccia> hey guys - im having some issues with firefox - suddenly its not starting anymore
[04:10] <Randall64> jake1: apt-cache search is good, but apt-file is better
[04:10] <frank> jake1: the package is called libxext-dev
[04:10] <gpd> jake1: apt-cache search libXext
[04:10] <ToRTuReD_X> howcome i can't use "sudo apt-get install amule"?
[04:10] <Randall64> abarb: Any errors in the xterm?
[04:10] <abarbaccia> nope
[04:10] <|rockinnerd|> abarbaccia, have you upgraded it?
[04:10] <frank> ToRTuReD_X: is universe enabled?
[04:10] <abarbaccia> |rockinnerd|, not that i know of - maybe actually...
[04:10] <jake1> frank: how does one know what package things of such refer to
[04:10] <ToRTuReD_X> erm all repositories are
[04:10] <flyingsolo> hey ya'll, my cd drive isnt working now and im a 100% newbie to ubuntu
[04:11] <ToRTuReD_X> says somethin bout broken packages
[04:11] <Randall64> The somethin is the important part.
[04:11] <|rockinnerd|> flyingsolo, define "doesn't work"
[04:11] <frank> jake1: you do a search for it in synaptic. and you always need the -dev one to compile with
[04:11] <abarbaccia> okay - removing firefox then installign it again
[04:12] <|rockinnerd|> flyingsolo, are you new to just ubuntu, or linux in general?
[04:12] <jake1> i did a search with libXext and that returned no results
[04:12] <jake1> well i did package contents or something like that
[04:12] <|rockinnerd|> flyingsolo: wtf
[04:12] <flyingsolo> new to linux itself
[04:12] <frank> jake1: i did a search for libxext and got the right one
[04:12] <Randall64> argh, could this torrent be any slower?
[04:13] <jake1> i wish it would scan for everything i need to make sure i have them before it starts the process of ./configure
[04:13] <ToRTuReD_X> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:13] <ToRTuReD_X> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:13] <ToRTuReD_X> well
[04:13] <arbir>  update-rc.d ppp start 14 2 .
[04:13] <arbir>  System startup links for /etc/init.d/ppp already exist.
[04:13] <ToRTuReD_X> alot of good sudo apt-get update did me
[04:13] <arbir> why is this happening ?
[04:13] <bimberi> ToRTuReD_X: close synaptic
[04:13] <frank> jake1: well that is what ./configure checks
[04:13] <jake1> ToRTuReD: quit synaptic
[04:13] <ToRTuReD_X> oh
[04:13] <ToRTuReD_X> lmao
[04:13] <jake1> that might help
[04:13] <ToRTuReD_X> stupid me
[04:13] <ToRTuReD_X> 2nd time i've done that
[04:13] <abarbaccia> arbir, is the script +x
[04:13] <jake1> damn
[04:13] <arbir> let me check abarbaccia
[04:13] <jake1> same message
[04:14] <frank> jake1: the package is called libxext-dev
[04:14] <arbir> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 13 2005-07-22 20:05 K14ppp -> ../init.d/ppp
[04:14] <jake1> checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... no
[04:14] <jake1> checking for libXext... no
[04:14] <jake1> configure: error: We need a working libXext to proceed. Since configure
[04:14] <jake1> can't find it itself, we stop here assuming that make wouldn't find
[04:14] <jake1> them either.
[04:14] <ToRTuReD_X> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:14] <ToRTuReD_X>   amule: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[04:14] <ToRTuReD_X>          Depends: libwxbase2.6 but it is not going to be installed
[04:14] <ToRTuReD_X>          Depends: libwxgtk2.6 but it is not going to be installed
[04:14] <ToRTuReD_X>          Depends: amule-common (= 2.0.3-2) but it is not going to be installed
[04:14] <ToRTuReD_X> E: Broken packages
[04:14] <jake1> frank i did that
[04:14] <ToRTuReD_X> be nice :(
[04:14] <rene> Hello? Hi, I'm new to Ubuntu, just got it a couple of days ago...
[04:15] <abarbaccia> rene welcome
[04:15] <jake1> not exactly as simple as clicking an icon and making the damn thing install automatically
[04:15] <rene> Is this the Support?
[04:15] <abarbaccia> Tech support
[04:15] <abarbaccia> lol
[04:15] <arbir> abarbaccia: did you see that ?
[04:15] <rene> Thanks abar!
[04:15] <rene> lol
[04:15] <Madpilot> ToRTuReD_X: you using the us repositories? they might still be fubar'd
[04:15] <jake1> it would be so much easier if there was one distro of Linix
[04:15] <jake1> Linux*
[04:15] <Madpilot> rene: we can probably fake it...
[04:15] <abarbaccia> arbir, yea - i see that - try executing the script right now- does it run
[04:15] <frank> ToRTuReD_X: what repositories do you have enabled?
[04:15] <rene> Well, er, I'm having trouble with two things. If someone can help me (sorry for being such a newbie)
[04:15] <abarbaccia> wait - arbir what is your problem exactly
[04:16] <ToRTuReD_X> frank
[04:16] <ToRTuReD_X> every repository is enabled
[04:16] <arbir> i want to set the ppp to start using update-rc.d
[04:16] <jake1> i got the libXext-dev but i still get the message saying checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... no
[04:16] <jake1> checking for libXext... no
[04:16] <jake1> configure: error: We need a working libXext to proceed. Since configure
[04:16] <jake1> can't find it itself, we stop here assuming that make wouldn't find
[04:16] <jake1> them either.   frank
[04:16] <frank> jake1: yeah I'm not sure about that
[04:16] <ed1t> jake1, why there should be only one distro? linux is all about choices
[04:17] <ed1t> unlike windows...got stuck with wat u get
[04:17] <frank> ToRTuReD_X: you should'nt have debian unstable repos enabled, do you?
[04:17] <ed1t> choices and customization
[04:17] <jake1> well yes but unfortunately there are so many choices it makes it complicated to choose the right one
[04:17] <oni_> I downloaded Firestarter, but, my iMac conected to the hub... how do I give internet to him?
[04:17] <Madpilot> ubuntu is the right one ;)
[04:18] <jake1> see like i cnt even get a simple app to compile + install
[04:18] <arbir> abarbaccia: i think update-rc.d works only for installation and removal... not to change the status of a script from start to stop or vice versa
[04:18] <arbir> abarbaccia: thats what i see
[04:18] <jake1> if there was one simple distro they would just have an installer and you would click it and viola it would do it all automatically
[04:18] <Madpilot> rene: don't ask to ask, just ask...
[04:18] <ToRTuReD_X> frank - i had one selected that i had added to repos
[04:19] <abarbaccia> arbir, the way update-rc.d works is that on the runlevels that are booting your machine (like 2 for example) it starts the script.  on levels that are shutting down your machine (like 6) its killing the script - thas what 'defaults' does
[04:19] <frank> ToRTuReD_X: if you installed libraries with the debian one, you should try to revert them to ubuntu versions of the same
[04:19] <rene> lol, er I can't seem to make any songs work on totem. The error message says There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///home/rene/Desktop/Ill%20Nino%20-%20Letting%20Go.mp3", you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[04:19] <arbir> ok abarbaccia here is my question.....
[04:19] <bob2> jake1: but that would require work from the developers
[04:19] <bob2> jake1: ie someone to package it for ubuntu
[04:19] <vader1102> Madpilot: do you find you repeat a lot?...lol, don't ask to ask lol, have I seen that befor?....hmmmmm
[04:19] <arbir> abarbaccia: i have an init script in rc2.d which is called S14ppp
[04:19] <arbir> abarbaccia: i want to stop it
[04:20] <bob2> jake1: you can join #ubuntu-motu and help it get into ubuntu have that one-click-install
[04:20] <abarbaccia> arbir, you just dont want it to start?
[04:20] <arbir> abarbaccia:  no....
[04:20] <arbir> abarbaccia: i dont want ppp to start up at rc2.d
[04:20] <Madpilot> vader1102: it's worth repeating - lots of noobs just come in, say, "um i got a question" and then don't post anything useable...
[04:20] <jake1> well for now is there ANYONE who can help me get the right stuff to get this wireless assistant app to install
[04:20] <abarbaccia> arbir, right, you just dont want it starting in runlevel 2
[04:20] <frank> rene: gstearmer0.8-mad
[04:21] <arbir> abarbaccia: u got me
[04:21] <arbir> in fedora i would do chkconfig
[04:21] <vader1102> true lol... I am just sitting here having a beer for the 1rst time in over a year
[04:21] <jake1> the last message i got was "checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... no
[04:21] <jake1> checking for libXext... no
[04:21] <jake1> configure: error: We need a working libXext to proceed. Since configure
[04:21] <jake1> can't find it itself, we stop here assuming that make wouldn't find
[04:21] <jake1> them either."
[04:21] <abarbaccia> so that file in rc2.d is only a simlink to the actual script - you can delete the link
[04:21] <bob2> rene: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:21] <frank> rene: you need gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:21] <nJess> i have a problem
[04:21] <bob2> jake1: do not paste things in here
[04:21] <rene> Thank you!
[04:21] <abarbaccia> sudo rm rc2.d
[04:21] <bob2> jake1: also, sudo aptitude install build-essential xlibs-dev
[04:21] <bob2> jake1: then go to #kubuntu
[04:21] <jake1> bob2 yea kubuntu is not very helpful
[04:21] <nJess> i finally got my laptop working on ubuntu, but the processor won't clock down, so i have poor battery life, how do i make my processor clock down?
[04:21] <bob2> shock!
[04:21] <arbir> abarbaccia: i dont want to delet that link.. at a later stage i might want to enable that service again
[04:22] <Jet2k5> jake1: lol I just got back from there it's dead silence for like 3 hours
[04:22] <arbir> abarbaccia: just disable it in rc2.d
[04:22] <bob2> nJess: you're using the default kernel?
[04:22] <DAC1138> nJess, rebuild the kernel, but you cant in ubuntu
[04:22] <bob2> nJess: and it was a default install?
[04:22] <frank> arbir: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/scriptname
[04:22] <DAC1138> nJess, ive tried so many times, it just wont work
[04:22] <nJess> bob2, yup, default install
[04:22] <frank> arbir: to disable the script from being executable
[04:22] <arbir> frank... is there not chkconfig style doing it ?
[04:22] <abarbaccia> arbir, if you delete the link, it wont start at runlevel 2, to enable it again just run the rcupdate command again or recreate the link
[04:23] <bob2> nJess: and a default kernel?
[04:23] <nJess> im using the newest hoary kernel
[04:23] <DAC1138> bob2, obviously, iv he just did an install
[04:23] <DAC1138> if*
[04:23] <ToRTuReD_X> man
[04:23] <arbir> cani do ... chkconfig 2 ppp off
[04:23] <abarbaccia> arbir, at boot it simply goes through the directory and exectues every link thats sitting in that folder - update-rc.d is a tool made for your convenience so you dont have to make them all yourself
[04:23] <frank> arbir: there is ubuntu boot manager (ubm) that might do it. I don't know chkconfig
[04:23] <jake1> yea Jet2k5 i noticed that
[04:23] <ToRTuReD_X> i'd hate to format and set this up like i do windows
[04:24] <ToRTuReD_X> formatting linux would be a pain in the ass to get it back to the way you had it
[04:24] <ToRTuReD_X> ;/
[04:24] <arbir> right
[04:24] <DAC1138> nJess, mine has the same problem, and my fan wont turn off
[04:24] <nJess> bob2, im using the newest hoary kernel
[04:24] <jake1> i agree ToRTuReD_X
[04:24] <ToRTuReD_X> :p
[04:24] <DAC1138> nJess, even when i set my laptop over the air vent on the floor where the cold cold air shoots up into the cpu fan, it wont shut off
[04:24] <jake1> i should get breezy
[04:24] <ToRTuReD_X> now smoke time wille i wait for xine-ui to install
[04:24] <rob^> jake1, no
[04:24] <ToRTuReD_X> bom bom bommmmm
[04:24] <frank> ToRTuReD_X: its not that big a deal if you have a separate /home partition
[04:25] <DAC1138> jake1, you should, and b0rk your system
[04:25] <bob2> DAC1138: no, not obviously
[04:25] <hondje> where does gnome store screen resolution in the conf editor?
[04:25] <frank> jake1: no
[04:25] <jake1> ok then
[04:25] <jake1> i won't
[04:25] <ToRTuReD_X> i need wine or vmware so i can run photoshop
[04:25] <bob2> nJess: what does linuxlaptops.net say about support for your laptop?
[04:25] <rob_p> arbir:  The Ubuntu equivalent to chkconfig is update-rc.d.  Read up on it.  It's not too difficult.
[04:25] <jake1> i wish ./configure would just pick up right before the previous error message instead of waiting all over again
[04:25] <nJess> bob2, i have no clue, what is that site?
[04:25] <ToRTuReD_X> my life depends on photoshp and gimp is a cheap replacement with none of the features
[04:25] <arbir> rob_p: i have been working on that... i keep getting an error
[04:26] <rob_p> arbir:  what sort of error?
[04:26] <bob2> nJess: go look?
[04:26] <hondje> Then use photoshop
[04:26] <arbir> rob_p:  update-rc.d ppp start 14 2 .
[04:26] <arbir>  System startup links for /etc/init.d/ppp already exist.
[04:26] <linuxnewbie> could someone help me? I am new to Linux and for some reason, I cannot see my other hard drive
[04:26] <hondje> Or end your life, I suppose that's a viable option
[04:26] <vader1102> try inkscape dude
[04:26] <abarbaccia> ToRTuReD_X, i've heard gimp is very  close (different names and locations of tools) but the only thing its lacking is the color palets linked to specific printers - like the color matching which makes PS so expensive
[04:26] <bob2> linuxnewbie: "see"?  you'll have to mount it before you can do anything with it.
[04:26] <nJess> bob2, that is not a real website
[04:26] <linuxnewbie> ok, how would I do that?
[04:27] <DAC1138> bob2, linuxlaptops.net isnt up anymore
[04:27] <rob_p> arbir:  so if it already exists, why are you trying to add it?
[04:27] <bob2> nJess: http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[04:27] <Madpilot> ToRTuReD_X: i've also heard that PS is one of the things that runs badly - if at all - in wine - but haven't confirmed it...
[04:27] <bob2> ubotu: laptop is http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[04:27] <ubotu> bob2: okay
[04:27] <arbir> rob_p: i want to disbaled that service
[04:27] <oni_> can anyone help me with firestarter internet sharing?
[04:27] <arbir> rob_p: *disbale
[04:28] <rob_p> arbir:  then do a, "update-rc.d -f ppp remove"
[04:28] <hondje> does anyone know where the screen resolution is kept in gnome? I'm trying to write a script using gconftool-2, but can't find it
[04:28] <oni_> mmm=
[04:28] <oni_> mm?
[04:28] <arbir> rob_p what does remove do ? will it delete the script from that directory?
[04:28] <nJess> bob2, it says nothing at all
[04:28] <linuxnewbie> how do you mount a slave hard drive?
[04:28] <Randall64> hondje: Are you sure it is kept in gnome?
[04:29] <hondje> Randall64: The screen resolution capplet can set it, so I'd assume so
[04:29] <rob_p> arbir:  the same thing that "chkconfig --del ppp" would do on a Red Hat/Mandrake system... it removes it from the run levels...
[04:29] <oni_> anyone knows how to share internet with Firestarter?
[04:29] <Randall64> hondje: Maybe it doesn't exist until you have changd it from the normal resolution (guess)
[04:29] <bob2> nJess: that's not very encouraging
[04:29] <bob2> oni_: er, there's a wizard for that
[04:29] <nJess> well
[04:29] <rob_p> arbir:  the script itself stays intact within the /etc/init.d/ directory but the symlinks are removed.  Understand?
[04:29] <nJess> it has similar laptops
[04:30] <bob2> linuxnewbie: www.,ubuntuguide.org
[04:30] <oni_> but its not working with me
[04:30] <rene> Thank you for the HELP!!!!
[04:30] <hondje> it allows one to set the default resolution, so I was thinking that it querys that value somewhere and sets it since the 'default' can be independant of xorg provided xorg allows it to exist
[04:30] <nJess> my laptop is not a real single model number you see, bob2, it is a combination of parts of an acer aspire 1360 and an acer aspire 1520
[04:30] <arbir> rob_p: i dont wan tto --del ppp
[04:30] <arbir> i want to do this
[04:30] <jake1> come on so damn close
[04:30] <arbir> chkconfig 2 ppp off
[04:30] <bob2> oni_: so, instead of asking how o do it, explain in what way it isn't working
[04:30] <arbir> do you see what i am aiming at ?
[04:30] <rob_p> arbir:  What do you want to do?
[04:30] <bob2> arbir: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*ppp
[04:31] <bob2> nJess: er, ok then
[04:31] <hondje> ah HAH, found it
[04:31] <thespiritoftal> is Breezy Badger better than Hoary Hedgehog?
[04:31] <nJess> bob2, the most important informational bit i got is this, and it was for slackware
[04:31] <bob2> thespiritoftal: no
[04:31] <nJess> bob2, to use cpufreq you have to enable the ACPI interface (all the modules processor, fan, battery, ac etc. are needed) and the powernow-k8 module for 64 bit Athlon processor and choose the cpufreq policy (I use userspace).
[04:31] <arbir> bob2: why do we want to remove it ? why cant we just call it K14ppp ?
[04:31] <frank> thespiritoftal: no, not yet
[04:31] <jedix> can someone help me with an nvidia problem with doom3?
[04:31] <bob2> arbir: ? removing a symlink is how yo udisable services from starting
[04:32] <arbir> cant we make update-rc.d just disable a script and not delete it from that directory
[04:32] <bob2> nJess: and is the powernow-k8 module loaded?
[04:32] <frank> jedix: what is the problem?
[04:32] <nJess> bob2, i don't know how
[04:32] <bob2> arbir: it's not a script, it's a symlink
[04:32] <bob2> nJess: lsmod
[04:32] <bob2> nJess: look at the output
[04:32] <jake1> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[04:32] <jake1> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[04:32] <jake1> wtf?
[04:32] <jedix> I get the errr "api mismatch the kernel modules is version 1.0.7667, but this library is 1.0.7174"..
[04:32] <arbir> bob2: what at a later date, i want to enable my service at that run level, and i wont even know that this service would go at that run level
[04:32] <oni_> well I have just one ethernet card, eth0, whose is connected to a hub, where the internet its uplink, and in the hub I have an iMac connected too, how do I share just like OS X?
[04:32] <frank> arbir: deleting the symlink is disabling it
[04:32] <jedix> frank: see above
[04:32] <bob2> jake1: ? that's obviously correct, you didn't install them
[04:32] <bob2> jake1: kde-devel
[04:33] <Randall64> jedix: Make all your packages match ...
[04:33] <bob2> arbir: then use update-rc.d
[04:33] <nJess> bob2, no it is not
[04:33] <thespiritoftal> I have just installed ubuntu.. what do you think about its security? is a firewall needed? or a vulnerability scanner? and should i install an antivirus software?
[04:33] <bob2> arbir: you're obsessing over something utterly unimportant
[04:33] <frank> jedix: this is for the drivers from nvdia?
[04:33] <bob2> nJess: sudo modpeobre powernow-k8
[04:33] <hondje> if it helps anyone in the future, you can change default resolution with 'gconftool-2 --type string --set /desktop/gnome/screen/default/0/resolution <values>'
[04:33] <jedix> frank: yes
[04:33] <arbir> i know deleting is disbaling.. or even renaming it to anything else but S* is disabling it
[04:33] <arbir> bob2 i am getting errors update-rc.d
[04:33] <arbir> agrees with bob2
[04:33] <jedix> Randall64: which packages exactly? I installed the drivers from the nvidia website
[04:34] <Randall64> jedix: nvidia*
[04:34] <nJess> bob2, it is done
[04:34] <frank> jedix: did the nvidia installation script work well?
[04:34] <arbir> i am obsessed......but this is how i learn.. unless i am obsesses i dont ever learn :-) sorry bob2
[04:34] <jedix> frank: yes
[04:34] <jedix> I can run it again..
[04:34] <hondje> thespiritoftal: You don't really need much unless you decide to run a webserver or something
[04:34] <Randall64> jedix: I'd use the debs myself (and do)
[04:34] <HrdwrBoB> hondje: I just realised, is there a way to turn that off
[04:34] <jedix> but there are packages installed from apt that are nvidia.. maybe remove them?
[04:34] <hondje> just don't run scripts from sources you don't trust
[04:34] <dooonz> if i have an old computer with only a serial mouse port can i install a usb card and hook up a usb mouse to it
[04:34] <thespiritoftal> thanks hondje
[04:34] <HrdwrBoB> hondje: because I'll be running an NFS /home on multiple PCs with different resolution
[04:34] <hondje> HrdwrBoB: Sorry, turn what off?
[04:35] <nJess> bob2, what shall i do now?
[04:35] <Randall64> doonz: It probably doesn't even have pci (so no)
[04:35] <dcgarri> alright... i need basic info if anyone has the patience
[04:35] <HrdwrBoB> the gnome resolution setter
[04:35] <frank> jedix: thats right did you remove the ubuntu nvidia driver package?
[04:35] <hondje> HrdwrBoB: oh, interesting
[04:35] <HrdwrBoB> it automatically runs when you login
[04:35] <bob2> nJess: load the module...
[04:35] <dooonz> it does tho
[04:35] <jedix> frank: I'll try that.
[04:35] <thespiritoftal> when a new version is released will we be able to upgrade it using synaptic?
[04:35] <nJess> how?
[04:35] <HrdwrBoB> I imagine you can stop it loading, but I think there should be a gconf option
[04:35] <hondje> HrdwrBoB: so /home is exported, but xorg.conf is local to each client?
[04:35] <bob2> nJess: with the command I gave you already...
[04:35] <Randall64> dooonz: crazy, but yes then
[04:35] <HrdwrBoB> hondje: yeah
[04:35] <dooonz> ok
[04:35] <dooonz> thanx
[04:35] <nJess> modprobe? i did that
[04:36] <dcgarri> I don't even know how to execute an rpm file
[04:36] <vader1102> |wow| I forgot how it feels to be kidless, I have gotten more done tonight than I have in the past week lol(bed early tonight)
[04:36] <hondje> HrdwrBoB: nice question .... hmm
[04:36] <HrdwrBoB> hondje: one ws will be 2560x1024 and others will be 1024x768, others again different
[04:36] <bob2> nJess: and restart cpufreqd
[04:36] <hondje> HrdwrBoB: I guess you could set a start/stop script in gnome to blank that string, forcing it to get it from xorg
[04:36] <nJess> bob2, now?
[04:37] <nJess> how*
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> hondje: yeah there's a few ways to work around it
[04:37] <boo_boo> hi
[04:37] <hondje> something like 'gconftool-2 --type string --unset /desktop/gnome/screen/default/0/resolution'
[04:37] <bob2> nJess: sudo invoke-rc.d cpufreqd restart
[04:37] <black13> what would cause "xinit: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6 cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory " the file is present in the directory /usr/X11R6/lib/
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> I just realised it when I was envisioning my master plan for a ridiculously overspecced home network
[04:38] <bob2> black13: you're using breezy, right?
[04:38] <jedix> thanks guys, now it faults on trying to use OSS
[04:38] <Amaranth> oops
[04:38] <hondje> or --recursive-unset, blank out the refresh rate value
[04:38] <hondje> but that's all I can think of offhand, HrdwrBoB
[04:38] <nJess> bob2, /etc/init.d/cpufeqd not found
[04:39] <bob2> nJess: that's not what I said
[04:39] <HrdwrBoB> cheers anyway
[04:39] <black13> bob2 hoary
[04:39] <nJess> bob2, i typed what you said, it gave me that output
[04:39] <bob2> black13: and how have you changed it from the default install?
[04:39] <jake1> i like pizza
[04:39] <ToRTuReD_X> grr
[04:39] <bob2> 12:37:30 @         bob2 | nJess: sudo invoke-rc.d cpufreqd restart
[04:39] <bob2> 12:38:47          nJess |  bob2, /etc/init.d/cpufeqd not found
[04:39] <jedix> actually it is seg faulting :(
[04:39] <ToRTuReD_X> ubuntu hates me
[04:39] <black13> bob2 massively
[04:40] <nJess> oh
[04:40] <bob2> black13: awesome
[04:40] <nJess> i typoed the replu
[04:40] <hondje> HrdwrBoB: since your startup stuff is in /home anyway, it might just work by giving it first priority...be interesting to find out if gnome can switch resolution at that point
[04:40] <arbir> what is vbestate
[04:40] <ToRTuReD_X> xmms and beep media player both freeze when i try to play music
[04:40] <nJess> reply
[04:40] <nJess> it is still not found
[04:40] <arbir> bob2: what is this service vbesave
[04:40] <nJess> bob2, /etc/init.d/cpufreqd not found
[04:40] <bob2> arbir: don't touch things you don't understand
[04:40] <nevin> ToRTuReD_X: what audio plugin are you using?
[04:40] <lcharly_TheOne> i have problems with my sound card when i put a cd i can hear it but i can play mp3
[04:40] <bob2> arbir: just leave it there, it's for helping suspend and resume work
[04:40] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: that's the software you're using, not the card
[04:40] <arbir> ok bob2.. i get it
[04:41] <black13> man i love bruce cambpel
[04:41] <bob2> nJess: sudo invoke-rc.d powernowd restart
[04:41] <arbir> bob2 where can i find more info on vbesave?
[04:41] <boo_boo> need some help, app installer will not open used apt-get to install. remove and re-install.  any thoughts?
[04:41] <nJess> ok bob2, that worked
[04:41] <hybrid_goth> is there a gopher program for ubuntu?
[04:41] <nJess> what now?
[04:41] <ToRTuReD_X> nevin
[04:41] <ToRTuReD_X> audio plugin?
[04:41] <lcharly_TheOne> i'm using xmms and beep media player
[04:41] <Randall64> gopher?  come on now
[04:41] <frank> hybrid_goth: hehe
[04:41] <bob2> hybrid_goth: apt-cache search gopher
[04:42] <nevin> ToRTuReD_X: press ctrl+p when you have xmms focussed
[04:42] <black13> bob2 any ideas
[04:42] <Randall64> Even universities can't be using gopher anymore.
[04:42] <nevin> ToRTuReD_X: the output plguin should be in the lower half of the popup
[04:42] <CMTheory> how do i set up sound in cedega? (in on hoary with a working built in "sound card")
[04:42] <nJess> hey bob2, my fan just slowed down, does that mean it worked?
[04:42] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: what symptoms do you have?
[04:42] <arbir> i see sysklogd and klogd both running.. are both required ?
[04:42] <ToRTuReD_X> erm
[04:42] <ToRTuReD_X> dammit
[04:43] <ToRTuReD_X> it's not closing
[04:43] <ToRTuReD_X> :/
[04:43] <frank> CMTheory: there is a config file somewhere where you can choose oss or alsa. look at the transgaming forums maybe
[04:43] <nevin> in a shell, type: killall xmms
[04:43] <CMTheory> tnx
[04:43] <CMTheory> -looking-
[04:43] <lcharly_TheOne> when i play mp3 its saids
[04:43] <bob2> black13: not unless you explain what you did to it
[04:44] <bob2> nJess: could be
[04:44] <bob2> nJess: add powernow-k8 or whatever it was, on it's own line, to /etc/modules
[04:44] <ray_> hello
[04:44] <bob2> arbir: yes
[04:44] <nothingssomethin> hello bob2
[04:44] <lcharly_TheOne> your sound card isn't configured propetly
[04:44] <lcharly_TheOne> do you have selectes the output plugin correctly
[04:44] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: open the preferences dialog (ctrl+p) and tell me which output plugin you're using
[04:44] <arbir> bob2 i am in the process of stopping unwanted services....
[04:45] <arbir> bob2 i dont have a printer so i want to stop cups
[04:45] <bob2> arbir: er, ok
[04:45] <lcharly_TheOne> libtonege.so
[04:45] <lcharly_TheOne> libcduadio.so
[04:45] <nJess> bob2, thanks
[04:45] <lcharly_TheOne> libmpg123.so
[04:45] <Kovecses> anybody know how to start a process in gnome as root when you start up?
[04:45] <lcharly_TheOne> libvorbis.so
[04:45] <nothingssomethin> how can i use synaptic to get samba with swat included ???
[04:45] <black13> bob2 basicall i made hoary chroot using debootstap ...
[04:45] <arbir> bob2 what is acpi for ? does it affect system performance ?
[04:45] <lcharly_TheOne> libwav.so
[04:45] <nothingssomethin> how can i use synaptic to get samba 3 with swat included ???
[04:45] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: those are input plugins
[04:45] <oni_> there's any way to share internet connection just as Mac OS X do?
[04:45] <nothingssomethin> ver 3 the new one
[04:46] <bob2> arbir: leave it
[04:46] <black13> bob2 then made the chroot bootable ...
[04:46] <lcharly_TheOne> sorry
[04:46] <bob2> Kovecses: what ae you trying to do?
[04:46] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: there's a pull-down box labelled "Output Plugin"
[04:46] <bob2> oni_: install firestarter
[04:46] <lcharly_TheOne> im using lib oss.so
[04:46] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: choose "eSound Output Plugin [...] "
[04:46] <Kovecses> bob2, to run enemy-territory you must do echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss as root
[04:47] <hybrid_goth> heh firefox can do gopher://
[04:47] <oni_> bob2: firestarter needs two Ethernet cards, and OS X can just share with one...
[04:47] <lcharly_TheOne> thaks
[04:47] <lcharly_TheOne> nevin,
[04:47] <bob2> oni_: that's nasty
[04:47] <lcharly_TheOne> its works
[04:47] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: anytime
[04:47] <Kovecses> bob2, i tried changing the permissions but it somehow changes them back?
[04:47] <nothingssomethin> maybe someone can help me
[04:47] <lcharly_TheOne> i have another problem
[04:47] <lcharly_TheOne> with my video card
[04:47] <bob2> Kovecses: just run it from the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:47] <frank> bob2: it is the solution that I found to
[04:47] <lcharly_TheOne> is an ATI radeon xpress 200m
[04:47] <arbir> bob2:  which services do you think i can safely remove... i see so many services most of which i dont understand
[04:47] <oni_> bob2: any other option?
[04:48] <Kovecses> bob2, ok so just plug it at the end?
[04:48] <bob2> arbir: I'd just leave them, since they don't use any ram anyway
[04:48] <arbir> bob2 if that is th case.. i would leave it .. i was only scared about the ram that each service was occupying
[04:48] <black13> bob2 like i said it boots boots great but no xorg .. yet
[04:49] <bob2> arbir: no, if they're unusued they will go into swap
[04:49] <arbir> bob2 sat for example. fetchmail....i dont use fetchmail
[04:49] <bob2> arbir: and it won't run unless you do
[04:49] <lcharly_TheOne> and the video is too slow
[04:49] <arbir> bob2 insttead of troubling you.. is there any link which you can provice me where i can read up about these services ?
[04:50] <bob2> "too slow"?
[04:50] <bob2> arbir: no
[04:50] <arbir> *provide*
[04:50] <gpd> arbir: I removed a bunch of stuff I thought I didn't need... dbus-1 was one of them... after hours of HAL errors I realized dbus-1 was HAL!!!
[04:50] <arbir> hmmm
[04:50] <lcharly_TheOne> i edit the xorg.conf and put the option  "noaccel"      "true"
[04:50] <arbir> gpd: hmmmm
[04:50] <hondje> gpd: hehehe, nice
[04:50] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: slow?  too few frames per scond?  what exactly do you mean?
[04:50] <arbir> what does dbus do ?
[04:50] <arbir> its got to do something with databus ?
[04:50] <bob2> no
[04:51] <bob2> just leave dbus, it\s essential these days
[04:51] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: did it work with acceleration?
[04:51] <lcharly_TheOne> ehen i open for exemple and internte browser
[04:51] <sandis> does anybody know what is segmentation fault (11) ???
[04:51] <lcharly_TheOne> didn't
[04:51] <hondje> sandis: yes
[04:51] <arbir> bob2:  i may not be a super geek... but i would like to know about my system...
[04:51] <bob2> sandis: it means the program is buggy and got killed
[04:51] <bob2> sandis: or you have bad ram
[04:51] <arbir> bob2: is that wrong ?
[04:51] <bob2> arbir: no...
[04:51] <sandis> hmm if its ram, how do i know?
[04:51] <nothing> is it true that the new samba 3 soupport active directory ?
[04:52] <lcharly_TheOne> and i goind down in the page it's too slow
[04:52] <bob2> sandis: you can reboot and run memtest86
[04:52] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: sorry, its bloody late here, I'm off to sleep
[04:52] <lcharly_TheOne> i have so much problems with my lap
[04:52] <bob2> that will take many hours, tho
[04:52] <bob2> nothing: it's not that new, but yes
[04:52] <lcharly_TheOne> specialy with the amd turion 64
[04:53] <lcharly_TheOne> there are no drivers for this proccessor
[04:53] <sandis> bob2: ok, ill try it
[04:53] <bob2> lcharly_TheOne: your cpu needs drivers? why?
[04:53] <lcharly_TheOne> whel no drivers sorry kernel
[04:53] <nothing> does synaptic have it in it's reposotorys
[04:53] <bob2> lcharly_TheOne: sure there is, the k8 ones run fine
[04:54] <ToRTuReD_X> k
[04:54] <lcharly_TheOne> yea thats wih im using
[04:54] <ToRTuReD_X> rebooting
[04:54] <vergeofimpetus> sorry for all the nick changes
[04:54] <bob2> lcharly_TheOne: so in what sense does your cpu not have a driver?
[04:54] <lcharly_TheOne> but the proccessos its always working on 50%
[04:54] <bob2> so it's being scaled down
[04:54] <vergeofimpetus> someone had the nic that i wanted
[04:54] <bob2> feature, not a bug
[04:55] <lcharly_TheOne> but i see the process and there is not proccess using that
[04:55] <black13> i feel like getting tore up
[04:55] <lcharly_TheOne> right now im coping files from cd to my hd and the computes is too slow
[04:55] <arbir> bob2 can i download the source and compile and install ?
[04:55] <lcharly_TheOne> and the procesor is working 100%
[04:56] <bob2> arbir: of what?
[04:56] <bob2> lcharly_TheOne: perhaps you don't have dma enabled
[04:56] <arbir> i need to compile apache for a very specific config
[04:56] <jeboespflug> quit
[04:56] <etzerd> hello room?
[04:56] <bob2> lcharly_TheOne: it'd be a lot easier if you pointed at specific issues like that, instead of saying "my cpu doesn't have drivers"
[04:56] <bob2> arbir: no you don't
[04:56] <etzerd> can anyone tell me how to install KDE in Unbuntu?
[04:56] <bugz_> anybody here have windows xp professional that i can copy... pls
[04:56] <arbir> hello etzerd
[04:57] <bob2> etzerd: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[04:57] <arbir> bob2: then how can i customise certain modules in my apache ?
[04:57] <bob2> arbir: explain what you want to do
[04:57] <etzerd> hello arbir
[04:57] <etzerd> thanks bob2
[04:57] <vergeofimpetus> when i download samba in synaptic does it do any preconfigureing whatso ever? and will it have the SWAT
[04:57] <lcharly_TheOne> i don't understand you
[04:57] <etzerd> I uninstall Ubuntu for while now I forget the command
[04:57] <etzerd> thanks let me go back and install it
[04:57] <arbir> bob2 i need to enable digest , dso and other pluygins for my apache
[04:57] <bob2> lcharly_TheOne: maybe #ubuntu-es is a better place to ask
[04:58] <bob2> arbir: which ubuntu's apache already includes
[04:58] <lcharly_TheOne> i ask but nobody answer
[04:58] <thoreauputic> vergeofimpetus: swat - I think it doesn't
[04:58] <bob2> vergeofimpetus: it will run on a specific work group, yes
[04:58] <Randall64> awesome, hoary kernel deb corrupted
[04:58] <arbir> ok ..and what if i dont want a certain module in my compilation which ubuntu includes ?
[04:58] <Randall64> This gets better and better.
[04:58] <bob2> arbir: then don't load it
[04:59] <Viorus|busy> what's the commando to show ip (sleepy)
[04:59] <thoreauputic> vergeofimpetus: you can install swat from the universe repo
[04:59] <arbir> i need apache to be configured for PHP with mysql and pgsql both
[04:59] <Randall64> ifconfigo
[04:59] <bimberi> Viorus|busy: ifconfig
[04:59] <bob2> arbir: again, no need to compile anything
[04:59] <bob2> Viorus|busy: or "ip a"
[05:00] <Viorus|busy> bob2 ifconfig was what I had on mind, thx=)
[05:00] <arbir> ok bob2.... i want mysql 5.0 beta..... i really need to test it for our stuff here
[05:00] <arbir> and it has to work with php
[05:00] <bob2> arbir: then go install that yourself
[05:00] <Randall64> Someone stop me from just beating the shit out of this peecee.
[05:00] <Randall64> It's just not worth this.
[05:00] <bob2> and any plan depending on a beta version of mysql seems doomed
[05:01] <arbir> bob2 its not for production
[05:01] <efigyidol> arbir: try #apache
[05:01] <bob2> still
[05:02] <arbir> i need to eval it and write a software for mysql 5
[05:02] <cddesjar> what is the default bittorrent client include with ubuntu?  is it gnome torrent or gtorrent or something like that?
[05:03] <Madpilot> is it possible to script a Gnome Launcher to run a java .jar file?
[05:03] <jake1> ok what does one usually do after "make install"
[05:03] <jake1> the readme file is blank
[05:04] <black13> bob2 are you there?
[05:04] <bob2> Madpilot: of course, they can run whatever you want
[05:04] <cddesjar> what is the default bittorrent client include with ubuntu?  is it gnome torrent or gtorrent or something like that?
[05:04] <thoreauputic> jake1: make install is the final step - you can run the program after that
[05:04] <bob2> cddesjar: no need to repeat
[05:04] <arbir> bob2:  also does the default install of apache support asp.net with mono ?
[05:04] <bob2> apt-cache search gnome torrent
[05:04] <bob2> arbir: nope
[05:04] <bob2> arbir: use xsp and mod_proxy
[05:05] <jake1> thoreauputic: do i have to be in a specific directory to run the program?
[05:05] <arbir> hmm.... bob2 are they all DDO modules ?
[05:05] <bob2> DSO
[05:05] <bob2> and no, xsp is not
[05:05] <arbir> bob2:  i mean, after i install apache, can i just plug int the mono-module and start wowrking with asp.net
[05:05] <thoreauputic> jake1: no, - provided it is in your $PATH ( echo $PATH to see)
[05:05] <bob2> afaik there is no asp.net module for apache2
[05:05] <vinux> woot! I've got some ubuntu cds in the mail and i've been handing them out. Soon we will rule the world! muhahha well no not really :)
[05:05] <black13> its xauth that fails
[05:06] <arbir> well than i can use the apache1.x version as long as it works for me
[05:06] <Madpilot> bob2: how complete does the path have to be? "java -jar home/brian/Arachnophilia/Arachnophilia.jar" doesn't seem to be launching it...
[05:06] <arbir> I need to do a lot of testing before i host my stuff at a data center
[05:06] <bob2> arbir: then you'll need to use apache1
[05:06] <thoreauputic> jake1: most compiled progs put the executable in /usr/local/bin , which is in the default path
[05:06] <bob2> black13: are you really using hoary?
[05:06] <QMario> Is there a way I can speed up the time Mozilla Firefox takes to load a web page?
[05:06] <bob2> Madpilot: that path is never going to be valid
[05:07] <bob2> Madpilot: /home/biran/ ...
[05:07] <black13> bob2 yes is it bad
[05:07] <Madpilot> bob2: what's wrong with it? it's what Nautilus is displaying... ?
[05:07] <bimberi> Madpilot: leading /
[05:07] <arbir> is gone for dinner
[05:08] <jasoncohen> QMario, yes, there is
[05:08] <Madpilot> ah, thnx. it works now!
[05:08] <Andares> Hmm...
[05:08] <QMario> Jasoncohen, how?
[05:08] <jasoncohen> QMario, follow these instructions - http://www.techsupportforum.com/computer/topic/48821-1.html
[05:08] <Andares> What package name would "libmp.so" be distributed under?
[05:08] <jasoncohen> QMario, it can signifigantly reduce page loading time
[05:08] <bob2> !+find libmp.so
[05:08] <Andares> !find libmp.so
[05:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libmp.so' (2 shown): (/usr/lib/libmp.so) in libdevel/libgmp3-dev ;; (/usr/lib/{libmp.so.3|libmp.so.3.1.7}) in libs/libgmp3.
[05:09] <Andares> coolies!
[05:09] <bob2> there you go
[05:09] <jasoncohen> QMario, also, i find the performance of the official firefox build to be faster. It has less dependencies and is a lighter build
[05:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libmp.so' (2 shown): (/usr/lib/libmp.so) in libdevel/libgmp3-dev ;; (/usr/lib/{libmp.so.3|libmp.so.3.1.7}) in libs/libgmp3.
[05:09] <bob2> note the .so itself is only useful for compiling things
[05:09] <jedix> hrm
[05:10] <jasoncohen> anyone else notice that the official firefox builds are faster than the ubuntu builds? i only notice this with ubuntu & backport firefox packages- not with debian builds
[05:10] <jasoncohen> could be some of the extra features compiled in
[05:10] <ray_> can anybody recomend a good cd burning app for gnome that burns iso's and vcd's?
[05:10] <Madpilot> ray_: Gnomebaker
[05:10] <bob2> ray_: nautilus burns iso images just fine
[05:11] <ray_> Maddy, doesnt burn vcd's
[05:11] <ray_> Maddy, like k3b
[05:11] <AMCDeathKnight> Howw can I get my computer to email me its ip address whenver it changes?
[05:11] <jasoncohen> if you need to burn video DVDs or VCDs you're better off with k3b
[05:11] <Madpilot> ray_: video CD? never tried, actually...
[05:11] <ray_> yeah i will prob end up using k3b
[05:11] <jake1> :-\
[05:12] <black13> bob2 crap i have forgoten what is the config that shows the library dependecies
[05:12] <bob2> AMCDeathKnight: it'd be easier to install ddclient
[05:12] <bob2> black13: ldd
[05:12] <black13> yep
[05:12] <bob2> tho I think that's not always accurate
[05:12] <AMCDeathKnight> whats ddclient?
[05:12] <bob2> but I forget how to use objdump
[05:12] <bob2> AMCDeathKnight: look at it in synaptic or aptitude
[05:12] <QMario> Thank you,  jasoncohen! :)
[05:13] <AMCDeathKnight> ok
[05:13] <zerboxx> what is the command to see keycodes as they're being pressed?
[05:13] <thoreauputic> AMCDeathKnight: or do " apt-cache show ddclient
[05:13] <jasoncohen> QMario, np, do you notice an improvement?
[05:13] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: xev
[05:13] <jasoncohen> QMario, try downloading the official firefox build. i bet you'll see an improvement between pages. the ubuntu build seems to "freeze" for a second before switching pages
[05:14] <jasoncohen> you'll probably also see an even greater improvement with deerpark alpha 2
[05:14] <AMCDeathKnight> is that like no-ip service?
[05:14] <bob2> AMCDeathKnight: sort of
[05:15] <Jet2k5> Who in here is using Kubuntu?
[05:15] <jake1> ok... how do i launch a program using sudo
[05:15] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: Thanks :)
[05:15] <pax> Jet2k5: #kubuntu to find out
[05:16] <thoreauputic> Jet2k5: probably a few - you might find more in #kubuntu
[05:16] <drew> is there anyway to make the videos played in MPlayer bigger?  I know that windows media player blows them up to 8 times their size, but mplayer just leaves them the way they originally are, is there any way I can make the video bigger?
[05:16] <jake1> i am in the right directory
[05:16] <jake1> and i cnt figure out how to launch the executable
[05:16] <Jet2k5> pax: no they are dead in there
[05:16] <Jet2k5> thoreauputic: they are dead in there
[05:16] <pax> I'm not dead
[05:17] <drew3> Hi All,  I am interested in xinerama support (2+ monitors) in Kububtu. Is it well suported?  I see drew beat me here with "my" name!! (-:
[05:17] <thoreauputic> jake1: youdon't launch from the directory - just type 'sudo <command>' from anywhere normally
[05:17] <frank> drew change the video output setting
[05:17] <thoreauputic> jake1: what are you trying to execute?
[05:17] <drew> frank, how do I do this?
[05:17] <jake1> thoreauputic it installed to /usr/local/kde/bin
[05:18] <jake1> and it is the only file in there
[05:18] <frank> drew go in preferences0> video and choose xv
[05:18] <jake1> i cded to that directory and typed in
[05:18] <thoreauputic> jake1: ah, well type the full path
[05:18] <jake1> sudo sh wlassistant
[05:18] <jake1> well i am in the directory
[05:18] <thoreauputic> you don't need to cd to the dir - just use tab complete to type the path
[05:19] <auk> !mountntfs
[05:19] <ubotu> auk: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:19] <auk> !mountwindows
[05:19] <ubotu> somebody said mountwindows was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:19] <QMario> Jasoncohen, where should I install Mozilla Firefox into?
[05:19] <nickrud> drew, you probably want to change /etc/mplayer.conf; change the vo=x11 to vo=xv
[05:19] <IIIEars> bob2 - Hi - Had a problem yesterday. Xchat was logged in as root and only appearing intermittantly. each time with a different PID# (41,400 - 41,800)  Can only guess it was uber-newber he asked for info on sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and displayed his screen output on my screen.  -  How do you prepare for something like that? Track a periodic connection?
[05:19] <jedix> alright this doom3 problem is really pissing me off.
[05:19] <frank> jake1: did you get your thing to compile?
[05:19] <|QuaD-> my xlibs in breezy is still broken... good thing i have a laptop!
[05:19] <thoreauputic> jake1: then do  sudo ./<command> (note the dot slash)
[05:19] <|QuaD-> and can use that insteadof this
[05:19] <jake1> it says cannot execute binary file... however when i go to that file in KDE i see the app and i click on it
[05:19] <nickrud> drew, sorry, it's /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[05:19] <jake1> it launches
[05:19] <jake1> but it says i did not run it as sudo
[05:19] <jedix> can someone help me with a segfault of doom3? http://jebus.ca/Linux/doom3.txt
[05:19] <jake1> so it will not function properly
[05:20] <bimberi> jake1: try leaving out the "sh"
[05:20] <jake1> interesting
[05:20] <jake1> that working
[05:20] <jake1> that worked*
[05:20] <jake1> :-\
[05:20] <jake1> no wireless networks found
[05:20] <jake1> except that i am on one now
[05:20] <jake1> so it should find something
[05:20] <thoreauputic> jake1: you'll save a lot of bother if you symlink it into your path
[05:21] <bob2> IIIEars: xchat on your machine was running as root?
[05:21] <jake1> i hope it supports my airport card
[05:21] <bob2> is it airport extreme?
[05:21] <jake1> bob2 nope
[05:21] <drew> okay thanks, it worked
[05:21] <jake1> it's the original
[05:21] <frank> jedix: I think graphics is your problem. you will also have to change sound to oss because alsa is not working
[05:22] <synd> nalioth: you alive?
[05:22] <jedix> frank: alsa works in mplayer, and I've tried removing all drivers and reinstalling them in combinations with no success
[05:23] <jasoncohen> QMario, you can install it in /home/firefox-installer
[05:23] <jake1> first i need this damn program to pick up networks
[05:23] <frank> jedix: what does glxinfo | grep direct give you?   I had to use oss for doom3 too even though most things do work with alsa
[05:23] <jake1> that would be nice
[05:24] <jasoncohen> QMario, it doesn't really matter where you install it- but if it's in /home, only your user can use it which may or may not be a problem
[05:24] <jake1> they left me a fucking blank readme file
[05:24] <jedix> frank: says "no"
[05:24] <jasoncohen> QMario, otherwise you can install it in /opt
[05:24] <frank> jedix: then you don't have 3d acceleration
[05:24] <jedix> frank: actually
[05:25] <jedix> frank: sorry, I'm ssh'ed in and when I actually try it on the box, it says yes
[05:25] <frank> jedix: well are you trying to run doom3 ssh'd in????
[05:25] <jedix> but I guess glxinfo is being piped back here
[05:26] <jedix> frank: no, I just didn't want to leave my big screen sitting on the desktop
[05:26] <QMario> Jasoncohen, how do I uninstall the old firefox?
[05:26] <efigyidol> whats the default cron daemon for ubuntu?
[05:27] <frank> ok, I don't really know what the problem is though... what is your video card? and what drivers are you using?
[05:27] <jedix> I reverted back to the nvidia drivers off thier website
[05:27] <jasoncohen> QMario, you don't have to
[05:27] <jasoncohen> QMario, they're installed in completely different locations and can co-exist just fine
[05:28] <jasoncohen> if you don't see a performance improvement just go back to the ubuntu version. the upgrade process is easier
[05:28] <kristen_> i just installed ubuntu; how do you log into root?
[05:28] <jedix> it's an amd64 box, with an nvidia card
[05:28] <synd> kristen_: you dont need to
[05:28] <jedix> fx5700le I think
[05:28] <jasoncohen> kristen_, you don't. there is no root account. if you want administrative access use sudo
[05:28] <thoreauputic> !root
[05:28] <shuveb> kristen_, use sudo
[05:28] <ubotu> it has been said that root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:28] <synd> kristen_: sudo takes care of all your root needs
[05:28] <kristen_> k, thanks
[05:29] <frank> jedix:  you have the 32bit version of Ubuntu?
[05:29] <jedix> frank: no, 64
[05:29] <black13> xauth fails because its failing to load libXauth.so
[05:29] <frank> well you can't run doom3 directly like that
[05:29] <jedix> frank: why not?
[05:29] <frank> jedix: do you have a chroot?
[05:30] <frank> jedix: because doom3 is 32 bit
[05:30] <jedix> frank: not setup in any way
[05:30] <jedix> frank: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/#head-9436e887158eec0b0ce52087c9c953561748c5be
[05:30] <jedix> I thought that meant it would work
[05:30] <f4phantom2500> hi
[05:30] <sbatten2> Whats the best ftp server in ubuntu.
[05:30] <root__> help me i screwed up my x config im on terminal plz
[05:30] <f4phantom2500> i had a quick ?
[05:31] <sbatten2> something preferably easy and with a gtk GUI =)
[05:31] <benplaut> root__: sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:31] <benplaut> usually works :)
[05:31] <f4phantom2500> i need to move some codecs into a directory but i can only do it if im logged it says i dont have the right priveleges or something
[05:31] <fr500> wow, ubuntu has awesome bluetooth phone support
[05:31] <frank> jedix: either you switch to Ubuntu32 (easy solution) or you set up a 32chroot (a whole 32bit linux inside the 64bit one)
[05:31] <sbatten2> i'm looking in synaptic but there are sooo many choices, I've never set up a ftp server in linux, just windows
[05:31] <thoreauputic> root__: and don't IRC as root - it's a security risk
[05:32] <f4phantom2500> it says i dont have the right priveleges or something*
[05:32] <jedix> frank: that sucks :/
[05:32] <f4phantom2500> i think i have to log in as root and do it but idk how
[05:32] <frank> jedix: yeah 64bit linux can't run 32bit programs without alot of hand-holding
[05:33] <black13> hey guess what i need /sbin/ldconfig
[05:33] <jasoncohen> is webmin really considered that bad? i find the ssh & cron job tools pretty good
[05:33] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: changing your nick doesn't alter the fact that you are root ;)
[05:33] <IIIEars> thoreauputic - I need a pointer on tracking intermittant connections from a co-opted machine. - Can you help?
[05:34] <jasoncohen> why can't someone patch webmin in universe to work with sudo?
[05:34] <jedix> frank: what's the point of /lib32 then?
[05:34] <thoreauputic> IIIEars: I doubt it - I don't know much about that
[05:34] <bob2> f4phantom2500: no, you use sudo
[05:34] <bob2> f4phantom2500: sudo cp *.dll /usr/lib/win32/
[05:34] <ricosuave17> i know that
[05:34] <ricosuave17> but help me plz
[05:34] <auk> !rhythymbox mp3
[05:34] <ubotu> auk: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:34] <ricosuave17> im deing
[05:35] <IIIEars> bob2 - Hi - Had a problem yesterday. Xchat was logged in as root and only appearing intermittantly. each time with a different PID# (41,400 - 41,800)  Can only guess it was uber-newber he asked for info on sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and displayed his screen output on my screen.  -  How do you prepare for something like that? Track a periodic connection?
[05:35] <auk> !rhythmbox mp3
[05:35] <ubotu> auk: I give up, what is it?
[05:35] <ddave> i
[05:35] <thoreauputic> IIIEars: you established that from yesterday? We were talking about it I recall ...
[05:35] <auk> !rhythmbox
[05:35] <ubotu> auk: I give up, what is it?
[05:35] <ricosuave17> i dont know what to do
[05:35] <ricosuave17> ito fix my x server
[05:35] <auk> !info rhythmbox  ?
[05:35] <ricosuave17> does someone use irssi in here
[05:35] <auk> !info rhythmbox
[05:35] <ubotu> rhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-7ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 1517 kB, Installed size: 4268 kB
[05:35] <auk> ok...
[05:35] <frank> jedix: well some of the packages are the 32bit versions of the programs like openoffice. So technically, you might be able to force doom3 to use whats in lib32, but I have no idea how and I think its harder than setting up the chroot
[05:35] <IIIEars> bob2 - I need a pointer on tracking intermittant connections from a co-opted machine. - Can you help?
[05:35] <auk> !rhythmbox mp3
[05:35] <ubotu> auk: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:35] <auk> !rhythmboxmp3
[05:35] <ubotu> auk: I haven't a clue
[05:36] <auk> hmm, anyone else knwo what package you need for rhythmbox to play mp3s?
[05:36] <frank> jedix: I used to use Ubuntu64 but I changed to Ubuntu32 because its SO much easier to deal with this kind of thing
[05:36] <ricosuave17> will someone plz help me
[05:36] <thoreauputic> auk: gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:36] <sandis> auk - www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:37] <black13> bob2 ldconfig
[05:37] <jedix> frank: I don't want to reinstall, I've already finished this game.. just wanted to see how it plays on my 51" hdtv
[05:37] <jasoncohen> auk, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:37] <auk> sandis: ...
[05:37] <auk> !ubuntuguide
[05:37] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[05:37] <danielrr> hiall
[05:38] <auk> hi
[05:38] <danielrr> hi all
[05:38] <frank> jedix: Ubuntu64 is fine if you don't want to play games, flash animations or wmv videos and other w32 formats
[05:38] <IIIEars> ubotu tell auk about codecs
[05:38] <nickrud> auk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats is meant to be the guide to enabling extra codecs and formats
[05:38] <jedix> frank: so that's why wmv doesn't work
[05:38] <jedix> must be a fix for this stuff
[05:38] <frank> jedix: yeah you can't use w32codecs with 64bit media players
[05:39] <danielrr> anyone a expert with ubuntuinstalls
[05:39] <auk> thoreaputic, jasoncohen, thanks--it's not for me, i already installed it a while back, but it' sfor a friend, and i couldn't remember the package
[05:39] <IIIEars> frank - you can but it is not easy. - chroot etc
[05:39] <danielrr> anyone a expert with ubuntu installs
[05:39] <ricky_> help me plz
[05:39] <bur[n] er> just ask your question danielrr
[05:39] <jedix> IIIEars: yeah, read scroll up :)
[05:39] <bur[n] er> likewise ricky_
[05:40] <danielrr> well my install keeps halthing when it trys to  install gstreamer
[05:40] <ricky_> well i killed my xserver its completly dead i even used xfree and switched to xorg plz help me
[05:41] <AMCDeathKnight> Hey guys; can someone tell me how to get a gba emulator in ubuntu?
[05:42] <rob^> AMCDeathKnight, GNGB or Xmess-X
[05:42] <IIIEars> ricky - maybe someone would know if apt-get gnome-desktop or kubuntu-desktop would help. (100+mb d/l)
[05:42] <AMCDeathKnight> im in gnome
[05:43] <ricky_> yes all i did was try to change my x config everything else is in tact all the gnome and everything
[05:43] <rob^> AMCDeathKnight, they are both emulators you could use
[05:43] <Randall64> Has anyone actually installed Hoary on amd64?
[05:43] <AMCDeathKnight> game boy advance not game bot
[05:43] <AMCDeathKnight> *boy
[05:44] <Randall64> All it does for me is power the machine down right after booting (after screwing up grub during the install)
[05:44] <danielrr> Can anyone help me?
[05:44] <rob^> AMCDeathKnight, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20841.html
[05:45] <thoreauputic> danielrr: your question isn't very clear
[05:45] <fr500> hello
[05:45] <nickrud> danielrr, the only thing that comes to mind, is that your cd burn may be bad. have you checked the md5sum?
[05:45] <rob^> heh
[05:45] <fr500> can i add entries to the snedto menu?
[05:45] <fr500> sendto menu
[05:46] <AMCDeathKnight> gnome boy hmm
[05:46] <AMCDeathKnight> Can someone just tell me what i have to do
[05:46] <rob^> no
[05:46] <AMCDeathKnight> im new to linux and dont want to mess around
[05:46] <rob^> read that link
[05:46] <AMCDeathKnight> I have
[05:46] <IIIEars> Randall64 - It is a long shot but parts of #ubuntu are logged on a website. maybe-maybe there is a way to use them by googling the screen names used here.
[05:47] <danielrr> Well I got this same error from cd that I got directly from ubuntuas well as with burned copy
[05:47] <ricky_> anyone going to help me plz
[05:47] <vinux> what's an easy way to change the color in the title bar in gnome?
[05:47] <rob^> AMCDeathKnight, sudo apt-get install gnomeboyadvance
[05:47] <Styx> How do I get an input plugin so that xine can play DVDs?
[05:47] <rob^> easy :)
[05:47] <AMCDeathKnight> arh
[05:47] <AMCDeathKnight> lol
[05:47] <frank> Styx: you probably need libdvdcss2
[05:47] <thoreauputic> !multimedia
[05:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[05:48] <IIIEars> xine-ui  ??
[05:48] <nickrud> danielrr, then, that is nicely strange, gstreamer is not exaclty an unknown quantity
[05:48] <IIIEars> vlc videolan is another very nice player for DVDs
[05:48] <AMCDeathKnight> vlc is neat
[05:49] <BitterGeek> It seems weird that both a pressed CD and an ISO image yields the same Sig11 with gstreamer.
[05:49] <rob^> thoreauputic, that page is such a duplication of effort..
[05:49] <robotgeek> vlc is very nice!
[05:49] <IIIEars> crossplatform also. = large developer communitty.
[05:49] <danielrr> nickrud any sujestions
[05:49] <BitterGeek> vlc needs more interface work. too hackish
[05:49] <nickrud> gstreamer hasn't been a problem here, so BitterGeek , danielrr I
[05:49] <nickrud> 'm not sure
[05:50] <linlin> Can someone please explain what this guy means? I dont fully understand the terminology: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=235185&postcount=13
[05:50] <bur[n] er>  totem is a great video player... now where's a good audio player :\
[05:50] <bur[n] er> bmp needs work
[05:50] <rob^> bur[n] er, bmp
[05:50] <bur[n] er> ;)
[05:50] <rob^> bur[n] er, bmp is fine, you just have to add plugins
[05:50] <sandis> so i wrote this small c++ program and successfully built it. when i run it console claims that there is segmentation fault 11. what a hack?
[05:50] <Styx> I have xine-ui and libdvdcss2
[05:50] <bob2> IIIEars: on irc? I don't understand your question
[05:50] <bur[n] er> rob^: plugins arent' in ubuntu :\
[05:50] <bob2> sandis: it means your program is buggy
[05:51] <rob^> bur[n] er, so?
[05:51] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: Muine, if you're playing albums
[05:51] <sandis> bob2: memory was ok
[05:51] <BitterGeek> linlin: sounds like the guy was trying to get mythtv working w/ ubuntu?
[05:51] <linlin> yes
[05:51] <danielrr> is there away that I could have gstreamernobeinstalled?
[05:51] <bob2> sandis: well, either it's buggy or you have bad ram
[05:51] <sandis> and what do you mean by buggy?
[05:51] <AMCDeathKnight> ok i have gnomeboy thing
[05:51] <bob2> danielrr: sure, by removing most of gnome.
[05:51] <bur[n] er> rob^: takes a bit to compile a plugin and make it work :\
[05:51] <AMCDeathKnight> but it wont get my games
[05:51] <bob2> danielrr: why would you not want it?
[05:51] <bur[n] er> not exactly 'easy'
[05:51] <sandis> bob2: it compiled well
[05:51] <bob2> sandis: it's using memory incorrectly
[05:51] <rob^> bur[n] er, I just complied the wma plugin for it, took me all of about 2 minutes
[05:51] <bob2> sandis: yes, C++ can't check those sort of things at compile time
[05:51] <bob2> generally
[05:52] <BitterGeek> Something's up with your hardware then, danielrr
[05:52] <bob2> sandis: put your code on the web somewhere
[05:52] <danielrr> is there away that I could have gstreamer not bei nstalled?
[05:52] <linlin> but everyone else in the thread is having the same problem, and he says his worked fine by doing whatever he did, but i dont know what he did
[05:52] <bur[n] er> rob^: compile crossfade, tray icon, and media library for me and make a .deb ;)
[05:52] <rob^> bur[n] er, heh
[05:52] <sandis> ok, give me a minute
[05:52] <bob2> danielrr: why do you want to get rid of it?
[05:52] <BitterGeek> Most linux apps don't sig11 unless there's bad hardware or something.
[05:52] <danielrr> is there away that I could have gstreamer not bei nstalled?
[05:52] <bur[n] er> i really have tried, i just can't get through all the hassles of the ./configure
[05:52] <rob^> bur[n] er, I might add a guide to the wiki, how about that?
[05:52] <bob2> danielrr: ignoring people trying to help you seems kinda dumb
[05:52] <bur[n] er> rob^: i'd dig it :)
[05:53] <bur[n] er> rob^: though according to bmp website, things are changing as they go to gstreamer
[05:53] <Randall64> IIIEars: Debian/sarge isn't too bad, but no multilib (32-bit) support.
[05:54] <bob2> that's multi-arch
[05:54] <rob^> bur[n] er, I'll check it out
[05:54] <danielrr> bob2 because it is haulting installation
[05:54] <FaRoFa_hC> I request my cd  of ubuntu in ship-it... Are 2 months to send my CD????
[05:54] <bob2> and it depends what you mean; it does have ia32-libs
[05:54] <bob2> FaRoFa_hC: has it shipped yet?
[05:54] <bob2> danielrr: on hoary?
[05:54] <Randall64> bob2: I mean what fedora does.
[05:54] <IIIEars> patiently taking notes - ;)
[05:54] <Kovecses> debian doesnt have xorg right?
[05:54] <FaRoFa_hC> bob2 hoary
[05:54] <bob2> Kovecses: sure it does
[05:54] <Randall64> Kovecses: It does now.
[05:55] <bob2> FaRoFa_hC: logon to shipit.ubuntu.com and see if it has shipped yet then
[05:55] <Randall64> Now to make Hoary bug reports.
[05:55] <Kovecses> bob2, what?
[05:55] <linlin> what does "I took the mythtv line out of hte sources.list and just left it with the multiverse edit" mean?
[05:55] <Kovecses> bob2, sarge does?
[05:55] <bur[n] er> rob^: let me know if you make something :)  i'd really be interested, i love winamp... miss it mucho
[05:55] <bob2> Kovecses: "yes, it does have x.org"
[05:55] <danielrr> bob2 on ubuntu 5.04 x86
[05:55] <IIIEars> not only free but tracked to your door? - nice.
[05:55] <bob2> Kovecses: no, sarge does not
[05:55] <Kovecses> bob2, etch?
[05:55] <rob^> bur[n] er, will do, there will be something in breezy also
[05:55] <bob2> danielrr: that's very weird, are you sure your cd is ok?
[05:55] <sandis> bob2: www.tume.lv/uzd2.tar.gz
[05:56] <bur[n] er> rob^: what will be in breezy?
[05:56] <sbatten2> Whats the best ftp server in ubuntu? Somethin easy and hopefully with a GUI would be wonderful
[05:56] <bob2> Kovecses: not yet, some core debian macines have been in transit
[05:56] <sandis> bob2: its console project in anjuta
[05:56] <Kovecses> bob2, so? ......... i would have to install and then add the sid repo's
[05:56] <rob^> bur[n] er, I'm adding BMP to the official FAQ, along with how to install plugins for it
[05:56] <arcanistherogue> hey, has anyone here installed UT2004 on linux?
[05:56] <bob2> sbatten2: anything doing ftp will be kinda arse, but vsftpd is one of the least bad
[05:56] <bob2> Kovecses: no, you'd wait for it to hit etch, if that's what you want
[05:57] <rob^> bur[n] er, but I'll make a copy for Horay and put it on the wiki
[05:57] <bob2> Kovecses: or use the sarge backport of it or ...
[05:57] <bur[n] er> rob^: very cool :)
[05:57] <sbatten2> bob2: thanks =)
[05:57] <Kovecses> bob2, yeah ok.... i will just wait
[05:57] <bob2> sandis: er, more than a trivial, program, ask #c++
[05:57] <bob2> sandis: valgrind and gdb will be your friends, tho
[05:57] <rob^> bur[n] er, yes, that will happen :)
[05:57] <Styx> Fixed it, thanks for your help :)
[05:57] <bob2> and just not using C constructs like malloc at all
[05:57] <danielrr> BOb2 I tried 4 copies that I got from Ubuntu plus a copy I downloaded fromy there site
[05:58] <sandis> bob2: no, its simple - 1 class only
[05:58] <arcanistherogue> anyone know how to install unreal tournament 2004?
[05:58] <bob2> sandis: why on earth is it a 500KB tarball then?
[05:58] <vinux> arcanistherogue, maybe
[05:58] <bob2> arcanistherogue: google found no guides at all?
[05:58] <bob2> danielrr: and did you check any of them?
[05:58] <sandis> bob2: makefiles and so
[05:58] <arcanistherogue> bob2: yeah, i couldn't find anything about hte problem im having
[05:58] <arcanistherogue> but i didnt really look to hard
[05:58] <bob2> anjuta is broken then
[05:59] <Randall64> Look at that!  Ubuntu actually knows display's native resolution!
[05:59] <vinux> arcanistherogue, hte?
[05:59] <delltony> anyone now of a good chm reader for linux? i have tried xchm but the chm file i have for some reason is not readable with xchm
[05:59] <arcanistherogue> vinux: V_V  the
[05:59] <vinux> arcanistherogue, what's the problem?
[05:59] <arcanistherogue> well, when i install it says to insert CD 2, but even when its in it doesnt read it
[06:00] <bob2> sandis: works here
[06:00] <vinux> arcanistherogue, what do you mean by doesn't read it? Does the window that pops up that says mount disk 2 go away?
[06:00] <WaX> how is everyone tonight
[06:01] <arcanistherogue> no, i just keep hitting "yes" and it wont accept.
[06:01] <WaX> What are you thought on Ubuntu?
[06:01] <vinux> arcanistherogue, ah yes I had this problem
[06:01] <bob2> sandis: anyway, run it under valgrind and gdb, and try #c++
[06:01] <frank> arcanistherogue: what if you mount the disks manually as you go?
[06:01] <arcanistherogue> vinux: whats the solution?
[06:01] <bob2> sandis: assuming you're sure your memroy is ok
[06:01] <bur[n] er> WaX: ?
[06:01] <Randall64> I think I'd like the installer to get grub right.
[06:01] <arcanistherogue> let me try that
[06:01] <WaX> burner
[06:01] <bob2> Randall64: if it did something wrong, please file a bug
[06:01] <sandis> memtest was ok
[06:02] <Kovecses> who here uses gnome?
[06:02] <Randall64> bob2: I am, I am
[06:02] <arcanistherogue> not me
[06:02] <bur[n] er> thoughts on ubuntu.... it's great :)
[06:02] <vinux> arcanistherogue, thinking. hmm let me see what was it. ok do you have to cd or dvd roms?
[06:02] <arcanistherogue> cd
[06:02] <arcanistherogue> oh i got it working
[06:02] <WaX> Have you tried alot of distros
[06:02] <arcanistherogue> mounting them manually
[06:02] <arcanistherogue> that works
[06:02] <Kovecses> bur[n] er, u like ubuntu?
[06:02] <vinux> arcanistherogue, woot yes I was going to say that :)
[06:02] <Kovecses> bur[n] er, what were you using before?
[06:02] <sandis> bob2: thanx anyway
[06:02] <sbatten2> ok, i'm looking through the man pages for vsftpd, but I can't find where I set which directory I want to be the ftp directory :(
[06:02] <bob2> WaX: ##linux might be a better place to ask
[06:02] <thechristelegacy> hey, I read in the Ubuntu doc that this is the place to come for help.   Does anyone in here use a Dell Dimension desktop with dial-up with ubuntu ?
[06:02] <vinux> arcanistherogue, I use gnome :)
[06:03] <bob2> thechristelegacy: it's way better to ask your whole question up front
[06:03] <arcanistherogue> my kde looks real nice though :D
[06:03] <bob2> your problem is unlikely to be dell-dimension- or ubuntu-specific
[06:03] <BitterGeek> Dell? Don't tell me it has a winmodem inside.
[06:03] <bur[n] er> slackware -> redhat -> mandrake -> JBLinux -> Slackware -> Morphix ->Debian -> Ubuntu
[06:03] <sandis> bob2: couldn it be bug in gcc/autotools or anything?
[06:03] <bob2> sandis: highly unlikely
[06:03] <bur[n] er> and i've tried a couple other distros along the way
[06:03] <bur[n] er> fedora here and there
[06:03] <frank> bur[n] er: thats quite a journey!
[06:03] <bob2> sandis: run it under valgrind and it will show you what went wrong
[06:03] <sbatten2> there is anon_root, but I'm not sure if thats gonna let people go up in the tree which would be bad
[06:03] <WaX> Why im curius about Ubuntu? i have tried alot of distros and wondering why this is so popular so quick?
[06:03] <sandis> ok, thanx
[06:03] <bur[n] er> WaX: apt rules the world
[06:04] <arcanistherogue> i know :D
[06:04] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy: Is there a windows-only modem in that Dell?
[06:04] <bur[n] er> things are simple and "just work" for the most part
[06:04] <WaX> yes i agree apt is nice
[06:04] <bob2> WaX: try it and see then
[06:04] <bob2> this isn't an advocacy channel
[06:04] <Kovecses> i thought i would never use anything but debian......i just couldnt help it ubuntu is just to damn good
[06:04] <arcanistherogue> Kubuntu right here :D
[06:04] <vinux> bur[n] er, hey I like slack alot but ubuntu comes first place with apt-get
[06:04] <bur[n] er> ;)
[06:04] <thechristelegacy> thanks for the advice bob2 :)    My problem is that when I try to connect to the internet, well I simply can't, I have no idea where to go to get onto the internet. There is nothing in the internet tab for it. The one area I found was administration/networking, but it couldnt detect the modem, but I have no idea how to figure out what the moden is, if it is a winmodem, or not, or if that even is the problem
[06:04] <WaX> I plan too, is anyone running kde ?
[06:05] <arcanistherogue> I am!
[06:05] <bob2> thechristelegacy: is it an internal modem?
[06:05] <thoreauputic> *g*
[06:05] <thechristelegacy> bob2: yes
[06:05] <WaX> running ok?
[06:05] <arcanistherogue> yeah
[06:05] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: is that allowed? ;)
[06:05] <sbatten2> anyone here familiar with vsftp?
[06:05] <arcanistherogue> its running great
[06:05] <bob2> thechristelegacy: it's unlikely to be a proper modem then
[06:05] <ilba7r> is there a program i need to download to associate certain type of files .lyx with certain program lyx in gnome
[06:05] <WaX> I cant really stand gnome
[06:05] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: oops
[06:05] <thoreauputic> ;)
[06:05] <bob2> thechristelegacy: does google say anything about your hardware and linux?
[06:05] <Kovecses> WaX, you use kde
[06:05] <Kovecses> ?
[06:05] <bob2> sbatten2: #vsftp or #vsftpd might be a better place to ask
[06:06] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy: Did the modem come with the Dell?
[06:06] <thechristelegacy> BitterGeek: Yes
[06:06] <thechristelegacy> bob2: I'll search google right now
[06:06] <WaX> currently on fedora... but I will on Ubuntu when I run it
[06:06] <BitterGeek> 9 outta 10 it's a winmodem since they're the cheapest to put into a PC.
[06:06] <bob2> yeah
[06:06] <Madpilot> bob2: is vsftpd a GUI or CLI ftp client?
[06:06] <bob2> which will be a pain
[06:07] <bob2> Madpilot: it's a ftp server
[06:07] <Kovecses> i like kde but i find it buggy
[06:07] <bob2> I hope there are no ftp servers with guis on linux
[06:07] <frank> Kovecses: the latest version of kde is much less buggy
[06:07] <hybrid_goth> bob2:?
[06:07] <ilba7r> is there a program i need to download to associate certain type of files .lyx with certain program lyx in gnome
[06:07] <calc> vsftpd isn't a client
[06:07] <Madpilot> bob2: ah, ok. thought it was a client. gFTP desperately needs a replacement...
[06:07] <WaX> Kovecses, yeah it has its issues but lately i have had little problems
[06:07] <bob2> Madpilot: nautilus doesn't work for you?
[06:07] <bob2> hybrid_goth: hm?
[06:07] <Kovecses> frank, 3.4.1..........
[06:07] <ilba7r> sorry i was disconnected for a while
[06:07] <BitterGeek> You have two options: Find out if you can get winmodem support working for that modem. Or buy a new modem that works with Linux.
[06:07] <frank> Kovesces 3.4.2 is out
[06:07] <calc> lftp is a nice ftp client
[06:07] <Kovecses> frank, is that what you use?
[06:07] <hybrid_goth> bob2: why would you care if the ftp is gui or not
[06:07] <WaX> tho i dont do as much tinkering as i used to
[06:08] <Madpilot> bob2: not always. plus it has limitations - no CHMOD ability for starters
[06:08] <bob2> hybrid_goth: because ftp servers ru nas root
[06:08] <frank> Kovecses: since this morning, yeah
[06:08] <hybrid_goth> ah
[06:08] <Kovecses> frank, is 3.4.2 in any repos yet?
[06:08] <bob2> root + gui = stupid
[06:08] <hybrid_goth> lol
[06:08] <Kovecses> bob2, well said
[06:08] <bob2> hybrid_goth: I don't have a problem with gui config tools that twiddle the config files
[06:08] <frank> http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php
[06:08] <Kovecses> frank, thanks
[06:09] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy? Did you get read the stuff about needing a new modem or hacking the modem in the Dell to work with Ubuntu?
[06:09] <evilyoda> I can't remember the fix for the problem where X can't find the 'fixed' font - it's under breezy and I've had it working before
[06:10] <WaX> This distro is #1 on distrowatch, was wondering why it is so popular as opposed to other distros
[06:10] <WaX> Ease?
[06:10] <bob2> WaX: try it and see
[06:10] <hybrid_goth> ease of use
[06:10] <hybrid_goth> power
[06:10] <hybrid_goth> apt
[06:10] <hybrid_goth> many many more
[06:10] <Kovecses> frank, getting kde3.4.2 ..... should i get kubuntu-desktop or kde?
[06:10] <ilba7r> wax best support non broken repos you name it
[06:10] <thechristelegacy> BitterGeek: No I didn't is it on the install documentation on the CD?
[06:10] <WaX> thanks
[06:11] <frank> Kovecses: I just updated (smart update in synaptic)
[06:11] <Kovecses> frank, im using gnome though
[06:11] <frank> Kovecses: It will install a few new things like noatun and others
[06:11] <frank> Kovecses: oh.
[06:12] <frank> Kovecses: Well did you want all of kde? for that get kubuntu-dektop
[06:12] <Kovecses> im gonna go with straight kde
[06:12] <WaX> Thanks for the info fellas
[06:12] <WaX> have a great night
[06:12] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy: Try to locate your modem on this list. http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/index.php?cat=121
[06:13] <thechristelegacy> thanks BitterGeek, give me a few minutes and I'll report back :)
[06:14] <Kovecses> now is there a way to completely remove kde if i dont like it?
[06:14] <dcgarri> I've been using Ubuntu for one hour.  This is my first attempt at Linux.  How to I install an rpm file?
[06:14] <Kovecses> dcgarri, well
[06:14] <hybrid_goth> dcgarri: ubuntu doesnt use rpm
[06:14] <Kovecses> dcgarri, ubuntu is not an rpm distro
[06:14] <hybrid_goth> if you can get the .deb
[06:15] <thoreauputic> !synaptic
[06:15] <ubotu> it has been said that synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:15] <Kovecses> dcgarri, but you can use alien debfile to create a deb
[06:15] <Madpilot> or install from the repos via Synaptic
[06:15] <evilyoda> will somebody tell me how I can get X working under breezy - keeps saying it can't use the 'fixed' font
[06:15] <thoreauputic> dcgarri: read the URL ubotu just spat out
[06:15] <hybrid_goth> Kovecses: it is best to try to get the deb first
[06:15] <Kovecses> hybrid_goth, yes
[06:15] <jasmuz> evilyoda: why dont you read in the forums
[06:15] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy: Winmodems are the work of Satan. They will cause more grief (flaky connections on bad phone lines, stability issues, etc). Foolish greedy PC makers trying to cut corners!
[06:15] <dcgarri> thank you much... I was wanting to install limewire, but the format was rpm... unless you guys recommend a better p2p
[06:16] <hybrid_goth> alien = still expiremental
[06:16] <Kovecses> why would you use breezy/
[06:16] <Kovecses> ?
[06:16] <hybrid_goth> dcgarri: bittorrent
[06:16] <Kovecses> hybrid_goth, alien works great for me
[06:16] <jasmuz> dcgarri: gtk-gnutella
[06:16] <bob2> Kovecses: if you install it with aptitude, just remving kubuntu-desktop will get rid of it
[06:17] <dcgarri> thanks!
[06:17] <hybrid_goth> Kovecses: but if you look at debian.org it will *always* be expirememntal
[06:17] <hybrid_goth> alien that is
[06:17] <nothingsometing> can someone point me to a forum that is for dummies trying to start samba ............or prehaps something on how to swt up SWAT to where i can use it to configure samba.
[06:17] <Kovecses> bob2, yeah but i just got kde...not kubuntu-desktop......oops
[06:17] <nothingsometing> SET*
[06:17] <bob2> Kovecses: same deal, remove kde then
[06:17] <dcgarri> oh yes, one more extension question... .run files?
[06:18] <bob2> nothingsometing: it didn't start by default?
[06:18] <hybrid_goth> nothingsometingL what so you wanna do exactly
[06:18] <Kovecses> bob2, how dpkg -r kde?
[06:18] <bob2> dcgarri: the file will have instructions
[06:18] <bob2> Kovecses: no
[06:18] <bob2> Kovecses: did you use aptitude to install it?
[06:18] <dcgarri> thanks
[06:18] <nothingsometing> actually it did start but i can't acess it from windows
[06:18] <Kovecses> bob2, yeah
[06:18] <bob2> Kovecses: then remove it with aptitude
[06:18] <bob2> Kovecses: _ on the kde package
[06:18] <bob2> nothingsometing: did you set the correct work group?
[06:18] <Kovecses> bob2, this might sound dumb but i dont know how
[06:19] <bob2> _
[06:19] <thechristelegacy> BitterGeek: Yeah, I read that they're software based and used drivers that come with the OS
[06:19] <Kovecses> sudo apt-get remove?
[06:19] <bob2> Kovecses: dude, no
[06:19] <thoreauputic> Kovecses: use aptitude
[06:19] <nothingsometing> i wold rather set the work group in SWAT than the .config file
[06:19] <bob2> Kovecses: run aptitude.  select the kde package.  hit _
[06:19] <DukGalNamu> anyone know where i can find a list of prism based wifi cards?
[06:20] <nothingsometing> it's more GUI if you know what i mean
[06:20] <levander> Do bugs filed in the ubuntu bugzilla usually get responded to?
[06:20] <bur[n] er> how come when I made a "connect to server" link on my desktop for an ftp site, my PC wants to use firefox instead of nautilus?
[06:20] <bob2> DukGalNamu: usually easier to google for your card and "linux"
[06:20] <Kovecses> bob2, ok..........i used apt to get kde
[06:20] <bob2> levander: yes, but if you just filed it, expect to wait
[06:20] <bob2> Kovecses: so, when I said "did you use aptitude to install it?", what did you mean by "yeah"?
[06:20] <nothingsometing> and yes it is on the right workgroup
[06:20] <DukGalNamu> bob2: i am an oem, so i end up haveing several hundred cards to choose from in the 15-60
[06:21] <Kovecses> bob2, sorry man i thought apt was short for aptitude
[06:21] <DukGalNamu> dollar range
[06:21] <linlin> i need to install "qt" how do i do such?
[06:21] <bob2> Kovecses: then it's not simple to remove it
[06:21] <levander> bob2: i haven't filed yet, i realize it's probably not exact, but, wait a week, wait a month? there's a general idea of how long it takes to get to those?
[06:21] <bob2> linlin: sudo aptitude install libqt3-mt
[06:21] <bob2> linlin: week
[06:21] <bob2> levander: week
[06:21] <linlin> that was fast :) thanks
[06:21] <levander> bob2: oh, that's really pretty good
[06:21] <bob2> Kovecses: use aptitude in future, and try using debfoster for now
[06:21] <ntom> hey, anyone know whether u need an extra plugin to get sound to work on VLC?
[06:21] <nothingsometing> i just don't have any users set up to be able to log into samba from my laptop(windows xp) because it needs authenication
[06:21] <bob2> DukGalNamu: your suppliers can't tell you that sort of thing?
[06:21] <Kovecses> bob2, ok///
[06:21] <thechristelegacy> BitterGeek: I did find that modem on the list, it's an Intel 537EP V9x DF PCI modem
[06:21] <levander> bob2: can I file bugs for packages in universe in there?
[06:22] <DukGalNamu> most don't
[06:22] <bob2> levander: no, use launchpad.ubuntu.com
[06:22] <dcgarri> bob2, when i attempt to execute the ".run" file, I get a message in gedit saying that the character coding could not be detected
[06:22] <nothingsometing> am i right bob2
[06:22] <DukGalNamu> bob2: and even if they did, the makers can change the chipset on you
[06:22] <DukGalNamu> bob2: and frequently do
[06:22] <bob2> nothingsometing: enable anonymous sharing then
[06:22] <BitterGeek> Hmmm.
[06:22] <bob2> DukGalNamu: tha'ts kinda crap :/
[06:22] <bob2> anyway, lunch
[06:22] <ntom> hey, anyone know whether u need an extra plugin to get sound to work on VLC???
[06:22] <nothingsometing> bob2 if i could do that i could probbally create users right?
[06:22] <DukGalNamu> bob2: is there a list anywhere?
[06:22] <nothingsometing> or wrong
[06:23] <evilyoda> q
[06:23] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy: Winmodem!
[06:23] <dcgarri> ok, bobs gone... can anyone inform me as to how I would open a .run file?  I'm trying to update ATI drivers
[06:23] <rob^> dcgarri, you need to chmod +x the file
[06:23] <rob^> then do ./filename
[06:23] <Burgundavia> dcgarri, the ati driver info can be found here --> wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:23] <thechristelegacy> BitterGeek: Yeah, I'm going to google for drivers
[06:24] <nothingsometing> bob2: i tought that windows xp demanded authenication
[06:24] <dcgarri> thank you
[06:24] <frank> dcgarri:  sh filename.run
[06:24] <delltony> is there a recommended chm viewer for linux? i have tried xchm but having issues with it (not reading file)
[06:24] <Burgundavia> rob^, recommend the existing apt method before that one
[06:24] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy: they may not be in Ubuntu. If you're desperate, you may have to build your own kernel.
[06:24] <rob^> Burgundavia, yeah, I didnt read what he needed it for, all he asked was how to run a .run file :)
[06:25] <Burgundavia> rob^, yes, usually you need to read past the first question
[06:25] <nothingsometing> bob2 or someone where is the config file that lets me create groups and users and permisions
[06:25] <rob^> Burgundavia, right..
[06:25] <Kovecses> u guys are so touchy relax
[06:25] <nothingsometing> is that still the same config file
[06:25] <thechristelegacy> BitterGeek: Lol, I can't even build hello world yet, if I were to happen to find a driver online, burn it to a diskm can you install drivers without recompiling the kernel?
[06:25] <zerboxx> For some reason, after amsn has been up for a while, it just freezes, I can't get rid of the windows, and I've tried killing it (-9) and nothing.  Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?
[06:26] <gparent> Hey.
[06:26] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: sudo pkill amsn ?
[06:26] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy: You can but it's rather technical
[06:27] <gparent> Anybody has the error message "Message could not be sent because an error with the switchboard occurred:"
[06:27] <gparent> When talking on msn
[06:27] <thechristelegacy> Bitter
[06:27] <thechristelegacy> BitterGeek: Well I'm up for the challenge I supose
[06:27] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: That didn't get rid of the windows, but I'd also like to stop it from freezing in the first place
[06:27] <levander> It really surprises me how few people are using dvd-rw's with ubuntu
[06:28] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: sure - that would be nice ;)
[06:28] <levander> cause i'm starting to think udftools just doesn't work in ubuntu
[06:28] <danielrr> if I still have a problem w/ install could I bypass installling gstreamer?
[06:28] <Kovecses> levander, if i had some i would use them
[06:28] <Slipjack> Okay, I installed XviD and w32codecs and still can't watch encoded videos!
[06:28] <frank> levander: I never tried to use one
[06:28] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: try xkill to zap the windowwith your mouse
[06:28] <mike> yo
[06:28] <anomaly> I figure I can try ubuntu on this old test box.. 400mhz/128mb ram. should be fast enough for basic things.
[06:28] <Kovecses> yeah xkill is good
[06:28] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy: Is $60 cheaper than you time and sanity. If so, better to buy a new modem that is not a softmodem.
[06:28] <mike> anybody know how to make eterm transparent on your background with kubuntu?
[06:28] <ricosuave17> u dudes r no help
[06:29] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: xkill did the trick, thanks
[06:29] <regeya> here's what I recommend for totem users: gstreamer is still under development, give totem-xine a try.
[06:29] <levander> well, don't go and buy a dvdrw drive expecting to use it with ubuntu, cause i'm really starting to think that the udftools package just doesn't work
[06:29] <frank> Slipjack: what kind?
[06:29] <thechristelegacy> BitterGeek: Thanks for the advice, I may just go that route
[06:29] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: satisfying isn't it? I like zapping stuff with xkill (not that I've needed to lately )
[06:29] <Slipjack> frank: Mostly XviD backups of my DVDs.
[06:30] <frank> try with vlc?
[06:30] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: *sigh* I see now that when this happens I'll have to do a reboot to get amsn back up.  May have to switch to gaim *cringe*
[06:30] <ricosuave17> anyone wanan help plz
[06:30] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: as to the freezing, I don't know
[06:30] <Slipjack> frank: Not yet. I've heard about it. I'll google it.
[06:30] <bob2> ricosuave17: a less terrible attitude would probably help
[06:30] <frank> Slipjack: don't google install with synaptic
[06:30] <ubuntu> nalioth hello
[06:30] <frank> Slipjack: install everything with synaptic
[06:31] <jasoncohen> zerboxx, are you sure you completely killed amsn?
[06:31] <bob2> nothingsometing: just use an anonymouse share... /etc/samba/smb.conf explains how
[06:31] <jasoncohen> zerboxx, ps -ax | grep amsn
[06:31] <nalioth> ubuntu: hello
[06:31] <mike> anyone here know how to make eterm transparent on your background on kubuntu?
[06:31] <Slipjack> frank: The default repositories don't cover much. Have any good ones?
[06:31] <zerboxx> jasoncohen: What should I or shouldn't I see?
[06:31] <ubuntu> now in room 218
[06:31] <jasoncohen> zerboxx, well, if you killed amsn you should see nothing but grep amsn
[06:31] <ricosuave17> well dudes why not u listen to me. just tell me how to fix my screen size. im on serial console
[06:31] <ubuntu> very strong connection
[06:31] <frank> Slipjack: do you have universe, multiverse and backports enabled?
[06:31] <ubuntu> wired
[06:31] <nalioth> ubuntu join ##apple please
[06:31] <bob2> ricosuave17: perhaps no one knows
[06:31] <frank> Slipjack: how did you install w32codecs
[06:32] <ubuntu> ##apple
[06:32] <bob2> ricosuave17: or perhaps you haven't explained the problem very well
[06:32] <zerboxx> jasoncohen: mind if I open a dialog box, so I don't spam in here?
[06:32] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: I seem to recall there's a terminal/ cli app that does msn (can't remember the name atm)
[06:32] <ricosuave17> then what is there for me to do
[06:32] <Slipjack> frank: .deb package :)
[06:32] <bob2> ricosuave17: ask a single coherent question
[06:32] <bob2> ricosuave17: on a single line
[06:32] <Slipjack> frank: Don't know about universe, multiverse, backports... been away from Linux for a while.
[06:32] <bob2> ricosuave17: explaining what isn't working, what you'vew tried, and how you got into this mess to begin with
[06:32] <frank> Slipjack: ill send you my source.list if you want?
[06:32] <ricosuave17> ok right now im stuck on real console. all i need is to fix my resolution size. how do i do this without gnome
[06:32] <Madpilot> !repos
[06:32] <ubotu> methinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:33] <Slipjack> frank: Sure! That would help a lot.
[06:33] <bob2> ricosuave17: no, explain what on earth "resolution size" means, and how you broke it to begin wit
[06:33] <ricosuave17> i tried to make my resolution bigger. u do know what resolution is right?
[06:33] <danielrr> .install halted again because og gstreamer
[06:33] <levander> If it's any consolation, the guys in #fedora are ignoring udftools questions too.  Maybe that distribution is no better off than we are.
[06:33] <Slipjack> frank: Thanks.
[06:33] <bob2> ricosuave17: yes, imply I'm an idiot, that will encourage me to help you
[06:34] <bob2> levander: "ignoring" is a silly way to put it
[06:34] <bob2> ricosuave17: restore your backup X config file
[06:34] <frank> Slipjack: uncomment backports to get access to what is in them. w32codecs is there for example
[06:34] <ricosuave17> i killed it
[06:34] <bob2> ricosuave17: you did back it up before editing it, right?
[06:34] <BitterGeek> Yikes, danielrr!
[06:34] <ricosuave17> nop
[06:34] <levander> bob2: true, i wasn't ignored in this channel
[06:34] <bob2> ricosuave17: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xorg ; sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg
[06:34] <BitterGeek> Chipset issues?
[06:34] <bob2> ricosuave17: and don't be so silly in future
[06:34] <levander> just frustrated cause i can't get this seemingly easy thing to work
[06:35] <frank> Slipjack: oh and comment out debian unstable! It's usually commented for me
[06:35] <Slipjack> frank: Okay. And this is to be put in my /usr/apt dir?
[06:35] <ricosuave17> bob2:  what will that command do becuase i just reinstalled xorg
[06:35] <bob2> ricosuave17: you reinstalled it incorrectly
[06:35] <frank> Slipjack: it goes in /etc/apt/
[06:36] <BitterGeek> danielrr: your PC used to freeze when it was running Fedora RC4. There must be some sort of harware problem.
[06:36] <ricosuave17> nop
[06:36] <ray_> now running kde 3.4.2
[06:36] <bob2> ricosuave17: in future, do not touch config files until you have a backup
[06:36] <bob2> ricosuave17: yes, you did, sorry
[06:36] <bob2> ricosuave17: read the dpkg man page to find out what -P does
[06:36] <Slipjack> frank: Thanks. Never had something as powerful as Synaptic. I have my Linux+ cert but I haven't used Linux in like a year. You're a big help right now
[06:36] <ricosuave17> alright but the thing is all i want cause everything is fine is to make my resolution bigger but it only detected 800*600 on my video card
[06:37] <nothingsometing> bob2: i found the smb.config document b4 loging on but i thought that that was the actual config file for samba if that isn't then what is the file that i would actualy need to edit in a word processor, it soulds like you are saying th smb.conf file is more like a refrance than a editing document or am i still cnfused?
[06:37] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: funnily enough, bob2 tends to know wtf he's talking about
[06:37] <bob2> leet speak is annoying
[06:37] <flyingsolo> can someone tell me how to install Java and Limewire on my comp. im 100% new to linux
[06:37] <BitterGeek> lolz d00d :-)
[06:37] <bob2> nothingsometing: /etc/samba/smb.conf is the config file, iirc
[06:37] <ricosuave17> i know but im just trying to know what is going to happen so i can knoe if i already tried that
[06:37] <bob2> all my machines with samba are offline, unfortunately
[06:38] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: he wants you to "purge" what you have before reinstalling it
[06:38] <ricosuave17> ok. thanks thoreauputic
[06:38] <nothingsometing> bob2:  it will also tell me how to edit itself properly?
[06:38] <ricosuave17> bob2: can i get that plz becuase i have no screen buffer
[06:38] <bob2> ricosuave17: yes you do, hit scroll up
[06:38] <bob2> nothingsometing: yes
[06:39] <danielrr> can any one tell me if there isb a way to bypass installing gstreamer durining installation of ubuntu?
[06:39] <jasoncohen> shouldn't "gdb gaim" run gaim and show output in gdb?
[06:39] <ricosuave17> nop im on irssi and on real console
[06:39] <bob2> nothingsometing: just copy one of the blocks at the bottom (like the cdrom one) and edit it
[06:39] <bob2> ricosuave17: then page up will work fine
[06:39] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: bob2 ricosuave17: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xorg ; sudo aptitude
[06:39] <bob2> danielrr: no, sorry
[06:39] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: sorry that isn't complete
[06:39] <bob2> danielrr: it sounds very much like your cd or computer are broken
[06:39] <bob2> jasoncohen: no
[06:39] <bob2> jasoncohen: you need to give it the run command
[06:40] <ricosuave17> ok. ill do that
[06:40] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: bob2 ricosuave17: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xorg ; sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg
[06:40] <bob2> jasoncohen: but it wont be much use, gaim in ubuntu has no debugging symbols
[06:40] <jasoncohen> zerboxx wants to use it for amsn
[06:40] <Dakel> I can't get the google.com name to resolve, although the IP address works and all other URLs work. Anyone else with this problem?
[06:40] <jasoncohen> but gdb amsn doesn't work
[06:40] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: BTW page-up to scroll back in irssi
[06:40] <danielrr> well cd and computer works both for fedora core 4 and suse bob2
[06:41] <bob2> jasoncohen: amsn is written in tcl
[06:41] <frank> Dakel: maybe they are having problems
[06:41] <jasoncohen> bob2, so, what should zerboxx use to debug it?
[06:42] <bob2> jasoncohen: I wouldn't bother
[06:42] <jasoncohen> ok
[06:42] <bob2> jasoncohen: and it depends a lot on what the bug is
[06:42] <Dakel> frank: It worked at the office (WinXP) and at home (Win98), but not Firefox in Ubuntu. I can ping it, though.
[06:42] <bob2> if the tcl interpreter is crashing, you could gdb that
[06:42] <jasoncohen> he says it crashes for no apparent reason while he's typing
[06:42] <bob2> just file a bug then
[06:43] <bob2> unless you know tcl already
[06:43] <Dakel> frank: It's been this way just a few days.
[06:43] <jasoncohen> bob2, ok, i told him to file a bug
[06:43] <ricosuave17> bob2 it seems to stil have xfree86 somewere in the memory
[06:43] <bob2> ricosuave17: awesome
[06:43] <bob2> but unrelated
[06:44] <AMCDeathKnight> Who knows away to run Activeworlds in ubuntu?
[06:44] <zerboxx> bob2: I will file a bug as you suggested, but all I can say is that it just crashed, kinda seems pointless
[06:44] <ricosuave17> no i mean might that be a problem?
[06:44] <bob2> ricosuave17: no
[06:44] <bob2> zerboxx: indeed
[06:45] <bob2> if someone cares about amsn, they can follow up and request more info from you
[06:45] <zerboxx> bob2: hehe ok, thanks
[06:45] <ricosuave17> bob2: one more little thing x is working fine except i would like to get a bigger resolution
[06:45] <Slipjack> frank: Downloading vlc now. Hopefully this will fix my problem.
[06:45] <MrGardenHoseMan> vlc > *
[06:45] <bob2> ricosuave17: indeed.  leave it alone and read the wiki
[06:45] <bob2> !+resolution
[06:45] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:45] <bob2> and back any file youre about to edit up
[06:45] <bob2> me good grammar
[06:46] <ricosuave17> i tried that yesterday and thats what brought me to this problem
[06:46] <ricosuave17> i tried that file and it didnt do much
[06:46] <bob2> oh wel
[06:46] <ricosuave17> i know my video card can go higher but it sticks to 1024
[06:46] <bob2> file a bug and wait, I guess
[06:46] <bob2> or find someone who'll walk you through it
[06:46] <thoreauputic> bob2: that is the kind of English up with which we will not put! *g*
[06:46] <bob2> being abusive on IRC will not help, tho
[06:47] <Slipjack> Excellent! vlc works great. Even played the .wmv file.
[06:48] <nothingsometing> bob2: can i also create users, groups, and permissions with this same config file???????
[06:48] <ricosuave17> bob2: how can i reconfigure just my resolution not my whole x
[06:49] <TooNamI> hello
[06:51] <Slipjack> Hello TooNamI
[06:51] <jasoncohen> ricosuave17, generally you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and change the resolution & supported resolution to the max your monitor supports or that you want to use
[06:51] <Xyc0> What is the name of the file that defines the default application associations?
[06:51] <ricosuave17> ok thanks but will that mess with my other options?
[06:52] <jasoncohen> ricosuave17, you also might need to manually specify the horizontal & vertical sync rates. use "sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange" to find yours
[06:52] <TooNamI> hi I am having a bit of trouble with ubuntu cant seem to figure this out... im running a p4 2.8e w/ ati 9600pro xt... When i install the max reso is 600x460 -- i tried the reconfigure xserver and it lets me use a higher resolution but its virtual... My screen is still in lower resolution and i have to scroll around
[06:53] <JonasNZ> YAY! i just got my CD's
[06:53] <jasoncohen> ricosuave17, just hit enter on options you don't want to change to keep the current setting
[06:53] <ricosuave17> ok
[06:53] <nothingsometing> in a config file can someone tell me what the " # " (pound sgin) is at the left for?
[06:53] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, that's for comments or to comment out a line
[06:53] <TooNamI> after i ran config for x it stuck the ati card's tv out to on
[06:53] <nothingsometing> what pourpous does it serve
[06:53] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, anything with a # as the first character is ignored
[06:54] <nothingsometing> ooooooooooh
[06:54] <nothingsometing> this makes alot more scence
[06:54] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: 1) help to understand the file 2) disables stuff you don't want
[06:54] <dispatcher> hello nalioth
[06:54] <nothingsometing> so what about the "  ; " sign
[06:54] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: in some files that is a comment too
[06:55] <nothingsometing> i seen that one next to stuff that look like commands
[06:55] <nalioth> dispatcher: type /join ##apple    please
[06:55] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, ; can also be used in a command to run multiple commands after one another
[06:55] <jasoncohen> like "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[06:55] <jasoncohen> first it updates and then it upgrades
[06:55] <nothingsometing> i'm trying to edit smb.conf
[06:56] <nothingsometing> jasoncohen: so that's whay i was asking
[06:56] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, you might want to use swat
[06:56] <nothingsometing> i don't know how to
[06:56] <nothingsometing> i was asking how to earlyer but noone would tel me
[06:57] <nothingsometing> i read in google that that was the smart way to go
[06:57] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, sudo apt-get install swat
[06:57] <bob2> nothingsometing: no, if you want users and groups you have to go find a samba howto
[06:57] <bob2> nothingsometing: #samba can no doubt point you at the right places
[06:57] <nothingsometing> jasoncohen: no no no, i have it
[06:57] <bob2> ricosuave17: that doesn't mean anything
[06:58] <nothingsometing> jasoncohen: samba howto??
[06:58] <bob2> nothingsometing: dude
[06:58] <bob2> nothingsometing: type "samba howto" in to google
[06:58] <bob2> nothingsometing: look at the second line
[06:59] <Randall64> ugh, unsupported features in my ext3 filesystem?  You've got to be kidding.
[06:59] <nothingsometing> bob2: google linux or google normal
[06:59] <bob2> Randall64: yay fedora
[06:59] <bob2> nothingsometing: either
[06:59] <Randall64> It doesn't even load a keyboard driver when it fails.
[06:59] <bob2> it's unlikely that there;s a keyboard driver to load
[07:00] <Randall64> It tells me it's mounted ro, like a regular failed autofsck.
[07:00] <bob2> you created the filesystem with fedora 4?
[07:00] <Randall64> debian
[07:00] <Randall64> iirc
[07:00] <bob2> I'd be very very surprised then
[07:00] <Madpilot> back in a bit, fooling with Opera's configs
[07:01] <Randall64> I'm fsck'ing under knoppix now.
[07:01] <bob2> Randall64: http://www.cims.nyu.edu/~barnett/laptop_setup/
[07:02] <bob2> perhaps that will help
[07:02] <bob2> tho I'm not sure how to set it in /
[07:02] <redtech> ok, whats the easiet way to add/modify links in the applications menu?
[07:02] <bob2> !+smeg
[07:02] <ubotu> from memory, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[07:02] <Randall64> Well, I'm probably going to shrink this partition, then do a new one with a clean Hoary.
[07:02] <redtech> <3
[07:02] <Randall64> If that fails I'll probably give this peecee to family and buy a tivo.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> I got a little HD-DVD TV recorder box at walmart for like $230 with a 80gb hd.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> i think its even down to $200 or so now. :P an record to HD or to dvd disk. (6 hrs on dvd)
[07:06] <danielrr> good nig all gtanks for the help
[07:06] <redtech> bob2, and what would be the built in way?
[07:07] <bob2> using smeg
[07:07] <bob2> or maybe mv
[07:07] <redtech> ahh ok.  thx
[07:10] <jasoncohen> hmm, i can't seem to get swat to start because i can't start the inetd service
[07:10] <Randall64> Why won't inetd start?
[07:11] <jasoncohen> not sure
[07:11] <Randall64> no logging?
[07:11] <jasoncohen> um...and now it works fine
[07:11] <jasoncohen> all i did was comment out a line and open a new terminal
[07:11] <Randall64> Just try nfs under linux.  You'll be even more mystified.
[07:13] <thoreauputic> Randall64: ? NFS isn't hard - I'm pretty much a network beginner and i have it running fine
[07:13] <jasoncohen> i do use NFS
[07:13] <ToRTuReD_X> hey guys
[07:13] <Randall64> thore: Just keep at it.  It'll fail in all manner of mysterious ways.
[07:14] <thoreauputic> Randall64: so far so good - /me crosses fingers
[07:14] <salapoliisi> can i install 32bit ubuntu somehow with 64bit cd?
[07:14] <apprentice> can i run mutiple Xs
[07:14] <apprentice> like i run mutiple terminals
[07:15] <Randall64> sala: nope, can't get a 32-bit cd?
[07:15] <thoreauputic> salapoliisi: I think the answer would be no
[07:15] <bob2> of course
[07:15] <Randall64> apprentice: yes
[07:15] <apprentice> how?
[07:15] <Randall64> apprentice: X :1 will start another one
[07:15] <jasoncohen> Randall64, i have no clue what's going on with inetd
[07:15] <salapoliisi> can i use 64bit ubuntu cd so that i could install 32bit version from internet?
[07:15] <jasoncohen> now it's just not giving any output but isn't working
[07:15] <Randall64> jason: Well, there's always xinetd
[07:15] <apprentice> but can i swithc betweens x without the closing. cause if i run an x and switch to a console X closes
[07:16] <Randall64> sala: nope
[07:16] <jasoncohen> root@jasonslaptop:~# /etc/init.d/inetd start
[07:16] <jasoncohen> root@jasonslaptop:~# ps ax | grep swat
[07:16] <jasoncohen>  9708 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep swat
[07:16] <Randall64> apprentice: I wonder why it does that.  What's on the vc X should be running on?
[07:16] <ToRTuReD_X> hmm
[07:17] <psychonate> why, when I bring up a terminal, does it have me by default in / rather than in ~?
[07:17] <Madpilot> just playing with the Ubuntu Wiki, and I'd like opinions on this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser - which I've just created
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> if the users home dir does not exist it goes to /
[07:17] <thoreauputic> apprentice:  http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/multiple-x.html
[07:17] <psychonate> The directory actually changes from time to time. Sometimes when I open up a terminal, it's at some other directory
[07:17] <Randall64> psychonate: Did you startx from the console in / perchance?
[07:17] <apprentice> i am sorry thoreauputic  but i will need for u 2 send that link again later on i cant do much on console
[07:17] <ToRTuReD_X> god i love ubuntu
[07:18] <ToRTuReD_X> just needa find out how to set it up to auto login
[07:18] <psychonate> Randall64, no. GDM.
[07:18] <psychonate> GDM started X, I mean.
[07:18] <thoreauputic> apprentice: just get a pencil and paper dude
[07:18] <psychonate> I'm fairly sure the default directory changes though, but I'm not sure why
[07:18] <thoreauputic> :/
[07:18] <apprentice> ok
[07:18] <Randall64> psychonate: Maybe there's a pref to tell it which directory to start in.  Do xterms do the same thing?
[07:19] <thoreauputic> apprentice: advanced technology, eh ?
[07:19] <psychonate> I don't know what's doing it, but it's causing problems with XMMS because I get strange "Directory unreadable: No such file or directory when I try to add files."
[07:19] <Randall64> links is pretty snazzy on the console imo
[07:19] <Randall64> But I'm comparing it to lynx.
[07:19] <psychonate> Randall64, yeah, xterm did the same thing.
[07:19] <apprentice> nop i just really like real console with no x
[07:19] <psychonate> I don't know why it doesn't always start in the same directory, let alone my home directory.
[07:20] <jasoncohen> what's the inetd package?
[07:20] <Randall64> qtparted hates my ext3 too, so I'm using resize2fs, then I'll make this peecee my bitch
[07:20] <psychonate> or, rather, why it doesn't start in my home dir
[07:20] <Randall64> psychonate: a ha!
[07:20] <psychonate> eh?
[07:20] <psychonate> er, don't get me excited :(
[07:20] <thoreauputic> apprentice: you can start another session ( alt-F2 ; login ; links  http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/multiple-x.html
[07:20] <thoreauputic> for example
[07:20] <psychonate> I can't add individual files in XMMS atm
[07:20] <psychonate> because of htis
[07:20] <psychonate> s/htis/this
[07:21] <ToRTuReD_X> lol
[07:21] <ToRTuReD_X> same psychonate
[07:21] <ToRTuReD_X> i can't add folders
[07:21] <ToRTuReD_X> it locks up
[07:21] <Randall64> You just need a bigger filing cabinet for your folders.
[07:21] <psychonate> ah, I think my problem is a little different
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> o_0
[07:22] <drcode> any one know if I Want to add packgge to ubuntu live cd into the cd , is it possible?
[07:22] <ToRTuReD_X> erm
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> drcode,  not at this time - i dont think so.
[07:22] <ToRTuReD_X> that would require a burning wouldn't it?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> there are some other live cd's that can handle that  fairly easially (knoppix)
[07:22] <ToRTuReD_X> ah k
[07:23] <drcode> k
[07:23] <drcode> thanx
[07:23] <ToRTuReD_X> woot
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> not sure if you can remaaster the cd and put some debian packages on it or not with ubuntu yetl
[07:23] <ToRTuReD_X> nine inch nails - only
[07:23] <ToRTuReD_X> \m/
[07:23] <ToRTuReD_X> how do i know if i installed the drivers for my gfx card properly?
[07:24] <Randall64> tortured: glxgears is a simple test
[07:24] <Madpilot> ToRTuReD_X: glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[07:24] <gpd> 46572 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9314.400 FPS
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> play tuxracer :P
[07:25] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, hey, ok sudo apt-get install samba swat
[07:25] <Madpilot> install Scorched3d - it's a cool game anyway!
[07:25] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, then you'll need to edit /etc/inetd.conf
[07:25] <apprentice> i love u
[07:26] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, "echo "swat  stream tcp nowait.400  root /usr/bin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat" >> /etc/inetd.conf"
[07:26] <Echelon-H> hi
[07:26] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, "sudo echo "swat  stream tcp nowait.400  root /usr/bin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat" >> /etc/inetd.conf"
[07:27] <chrishaum> #edubuntu
[07:27] <Forty|> anyone else getting a problem upgrading firefox?
[07:27] <timl> Forty|: check the topic
[07:27] <Forty|> hahahaha
[07:27] <Forty|> sorry about that
[07:28] <psychonate> why is my XMMS acting so strangely :(
[07:28] <Forty|> timl, backports in the sources list?
[07:28] <apprentice> try amarok
[07:28] <Randall64> psycho: It realized it's a bad clone of a bad program people stopped using years ago.
[07:29] <Randall64> juk seems nice at least
[07:29] <timl> Forty|: I have no idea, I've only read the topic :)
[07:29] <apprentice> actually i wish there was a foobar clone
[07:29] <Forty|> hahaha
[07:29] <Forty|> hmm
[07:29] <apprentice> foobar is like the best i wonder why no one has made a clone
[07:29] <psychonate> now, if I want to save a playlist, it has the default save at / and I hit "../" and it takes me to /share/video/Faccia a faccia (1967) XviD  ?! 0.o
[07:30] <apprentice> psychonate:  waht movie is that
[07:30] <ToRTuReD_X> how do i install a .tar.gz file?
[07:30] <psychonate> Randall64, unfortunately, I don't think Ubuntu has bmp plugins for flac, mpc, cue files, ape, and some other exotic formats
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> You dont :P yoiu install tyhe program IN the .tar.gz :P
[07:30] <ridejib> ToRTuReD_X: you need to unzip it first
[07:30] <psychonate> apprentice, spaghetti western film
[07:30] <ToRTuReD_X> yeh
[07:30] <ToRTuReD_X> then?
[07:30] <psychonate> (Face to Face)
[07:30] <ridejib> ToRTuReD_X: what type of files does it contain?
[07:31] <apprentice> cool. i dont really like westerns
[07:31] <psychonate> I like some.
[07:31] <Forty|> damn, whats the direcotry for hte source lists?
[07:31] <ToRTuReD_X> i'll tell you when i'm done
[07:31] <psychonate> Forty|, /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:31] <apprentice> the only western i like is back to the future 3
[07:31] <psychonate> rofl
[07:31] <apprentice> its pretty western
[07:32] <ridejib> first you gotta do gunzip file.tar.gz,  the tar -xvf file.tar
[07:32] <psychonate> Spaghetti Westerns are a little different in most cases from American Westerns
[07:32] <apprentice> maybe there better
[07:32] <psychonate> well, also depends on what american westerns you watched
[07:32] <apprentice> not many actually
[07:32] <Forty|> thanks psychonate
[07:32] <Forty|> i always forget apt
[07:32] <psychonate> Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch is A LOT different from say High Noon
[07:32] <Forty|> apprentice, damn good western to like
[07:33] <Forty|> psychonate, how about sundance kid?
[07:33] <Randall64> ride: tar xzvf might be a little easier ...
[07:33] <psychonate> Forty|, that's a pretty good one
[07:33] <ridejib> Randall64: this is true..thx
[07:33] <psychonate> Paul Newman is a monster :)
[07:34] <ridejib> While not a Western, has anyone seen The Boondock Saints?
[07:34] <psychonate> yes
[07:34] <psychonate> it's alright
[07:34] <ridejib> I love that movie
[07:34] <tim> boondock saints is such a good movie
[07:34] <tim> theres a sequel coming out
[07:34] <apprentice> i love the boondock saints
[07:34] <tim> "all saints day"
[07:34] <apprentice> its so cool
[07:34] <psychonate> I like the part when they shoot the cat heh
[07:34] <ridejib> Yeah, do you know when it is due out?
[07:34] <psychonate> but Pulp Fiction's scene when Marvin gets shot is better
[07:35] <psychonate> "Oh man, I think I shot Marvin in the face."
[07:35] <Forty|> anyone here know how to disable mplayer and use xine?
[07:35] <tim> agreed, both are insanely good movies
[07:35] <apprentice> lol that part is funny
[07:35] <ridejib> The Detective Greenly is a guy name Bob Marley, who happens to be a comedian. I went to see him Live and after the show asked when All Saints Day was coming out, and he seemed shocked I knew they were making it
[07:35] <apprentice> lol.
[07:36] <ridejib> ToRTuReD_X: any luck with that tar.gz?
[07:36] <apprentice> support panic?
[07:36] <Madpilot> nobody's breaking anything in their installs right at this moment, I guess ;)
[07:36] <psychonate> well, I still don't know why / is not the default directory when I open a terminal or roxfiler
[07:36] <psychonate> seems a bit strange
[07:36] <arbir> has to now sleep
[07:37] <ridejib> how do you make irc do something like this "* gpd is in shock that # is not in frenzy of support panic!"
[07:37] <thoreauputic> psychonate: the usual default would be your home dir  /home/username/
[07:37] <apprentice> i am i just calmed down
[07:38] <thoreauputic> ride type  /me <does something or says something>
[07:38] <ridejib> thoreauputic: thanks
[07:38] <ubuntu> how do you install AIM?
[07:38] <shadeland> man
[07:38] <shadeland> that was fun
[07:38] <shadeland> just got the ATI drivers installed
[07:39] <pablo928> Hi everyone. How do it set my swap-file size? Seems in the install it was set to 0MB.
[07:39] <Madpilot> ubuntu: GAIM is installed by default, I think
[07:39] <ridejib> pablo928: have you already partitioned your entire hard drive?
[07:39] <mike> anybody know when ubuntu ...6(?) is coming out?
[07:40] <ridejib> mike: Breezy (5.10 i think) is due out in December
[07:40] <Madpilot> October for Breezy, I thought
[07:40] <psychonate> thoreauputic, I know, but it's not
[07:40] <psychonate> thoreauputic, the default changes
[07:40] <psychonate> I have no idea why.
[07:40] <ridejib> Madpilot: hmm, maybe you are correct. I might be thinking of something else
[07:41] <thoreauputic> psychonate: it's a conspiracy!
[07:41] <psychonate> I just know that it gets changed periodically to a directory that I was in in rox or in a terminal
[07:41] <dooonz> guys my firefox is buggering up
[07:41] <dooonz> like all the time
[07:41] <psychonate> I don't know why or how
[07:41] <pablo928> ridejib-yep, two partitions, Fat32 for WinXp and ext3 for Ubuntu.
[07:41] <ridejib> doonz: have you sprayed it with Raid(TM)?
[07:41] <dooonz> yeah
[07:41] <thoreauputic> dooonz: could you be a little more vague?
[07:42] <Madpilot> dooonz: read the topic?
[07:42] <dooonz> hehehe
[07:42] <ridejib> Doonz: hmm.. weird. that usually solves my problems
[07:42] <dooonz> sorry
[07:42] <dooonz> let me read the topic
[07:42] <dooonz> ok read it
[07:42] <Randall64> ridejib: So you're saying the anal rape doesn't bother you, just insects?
[07:43] <ridejib> pablo928: you aren't going to be able to create swap space without re-partitioning at least one of those partitions. Have you already installed both operating systems?
[07:43] <dooonz> is it on the ubuntuguide.org site a walkthrough howto do it?
[07:43] <Madpilot> Randall64: language...
[07:43] <pablo928> ridejib- isn't there a way to manually set the swap-file size?
[07:43] <Randall64> Well, you _can_ make a swapfile.
[07:43] <Randall64> It's not just recommended.
[07:44] <Randall64> s/not just/just not/
[07:44] <Randall64> man mkswap
[07:44] <pablo928> Any idea why it would set to 0MB by default in install?
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> a swap FILE is different then a swap partition.
[07:44] <dooonz> how do i disable backports?
[07:44] <Randall64> pablo: Did you forget to create a swap partition in the installer?
[07:45] <Randall64> _Then_ what does the swap partition do?
[07:45] <ridejib> Randall64: I'm confused what the buttlove comment was in regards to? Although humoress, I'm still confused
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> you can use a swap file instead of a swap parttion.. or use a combo of the 2.
[07:46] <thoreauputic> ridejib: FF "buggering up"
[07:46] <cs378> hi, i installed kubuntu, don kinda like kde, cuz of some error, can i start a new installation with ubuntu? (im at dual boot - dont wanna mess up my windows xp)
[07:46] <ridejib> hmm.. i must not be familiar with that induendo
[07:46] <ridejib> or however you spell it
[07:46] <pablo928> Dr_Willis- So how do I set a swapfile?
[07:46] <Randall64> It's british slang.
[07:46] <thoreauputic> ridejib:  dict bugger :) Or look in a web dictionary
[07:47] <Randall64> pablo: man mkswap, search for dd
[07:47] <ridejib> Randall64: ah, that would be why..
[07:47] <ridejib> thoreauputic: thx
[07:47] <Randall64> I just hate repeating myself.
[07:47] <thoreauputic> ridejib: buggery is more or less "sodomy"
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> theres several howtos that tell the exact steps to make a swap file its fairly trivial. You are saying you made NO swap partition then?
[07:47] <cs378> anyone?
[07:47] <ridejib> thoreauputic: hmm. quite interesting. lol
[07:48] <Madpilot> hmmmm... is anyone else having trouble getting information from Ubuntu's little Dictionary app?
[07:48] <thoreauputic> ridejib: there used to be a law that used the phrase " the abominable sin of buggery"
[07:48] <thoreauputic> ;)
[07:48] <mrnice> hi all
[07:48] <Randall64> Now it's just good clean fun.
[07:48] <ridejib> cs378: yes. Just install on the partition you set up for kubuntu
[07:48] <mrnice> can I install RPM?
[07:48] <mrnice> in ubuntu ?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> Ewww....
[07:48] <ridejib> thoreauputic: haha that is quite entertaining
[07:49] <frank> short answer, no
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> you mean install AN rpm?
[07:49] <poningru> mrnice: use alien
[07:49] <mrnice> yes
[07:49] <thoreauputic> Maddy: yes, change the url to test.dict.org
[07:49] <mrnice> I Have download rpm pkg
[07:49] <poningru> !alien
[07:49] <Randall64> mrnice: no, but you can alien it if desperation drives you to madness
[07:49] <levander> Nobody here knows how to configure udftools do they?
[07:49] <ubotu> alien is probably a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[07:49] <frank> mrnice: use deb instead
[07:49] <cs378> ridejib: so its a fresh new installation n it will config the grab thing as well right,(i am a newbie)
[07:49] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: sorry tab complete error ^^^
[07:49] <poningru> guys its not always easy to use debs because people dont provide .debs
[07:49] <mrnice> I can't find it as deb
[07:49] <ridejib> frank: some software is only released in rpm format
[07:49] <mrnice> only rpm
[07:49] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: OK, test.dict.org workd, thanks.
[07:50] <dooonz> how do i disable backports?
[07:50] <Randall64> mrnice: What software are you dealing with?
[07:50] <mrnice> djplay
[07:50] <Amaranth> poningru: are you talking about autopackage?
[07:50] <levander> !udftools
[07:50] <ubotu> levander: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:50] <ridejib> mrnice: use "alien filename"
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: the dict.org URL is going through some kind of existential crisis ;-)
[07:50] <mrnice> in sourceforge
[07:50] <Mobus> but what's wrong with the GUN ./compile && make && make instasll eh?
[07:50] <Mobus> GNU*
[07:50] <frank> ridejib: some... yes but if that happens, I'd say you're better off compiling it yourself
[07:50] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: I was afraid it was my Firestarter install buggering up the connection
[07:50] <ridejib> mrnice: alien will convert the rpm to a .deb. then you can use sudo dpkg
[07:50] <mrnice> thanx alot
[07:50] <mrnice> I Will check it out
[07:50] <ridejib> !alien
[07:51] <ubotu> [alien]  a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[07:51] <Randall64> !debian
[07:51] <ubotu> debian is, like, The Rock upon which Ubuntu is founded; see http://www.debian.org http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html#contents Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9
[07:51] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: nah, just the dict people changing stuff without telling anyone
[07:51] <poningru> hahaha
[07:51] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: wonderful... </sarcasm>
[07:51] <levander> what's the command to tech ubotu a word?
[07:51] <poningru> imagine naming a distro after you gf
[07:51] <ridejib> poningru: it would be called "satan"
[07:51] <dooonz> !porno
[07:51] <ubotu> Wish i knew, dooonz
[07:51] <Amaranth> dooonz: ...
[07:51] <ridejib> hahah doonz
[07:52] <poningru> doonz dont teach it shit like that
[07:52] <dooonz> aorry
[07:52] <thoreauputic> levander: ubotu <something> is <something else>
[07:52] <Madpilot> levander: "ubotu <word> is <foo>"  - but do it in /msg
[07:52] <Madpilot> !list
[07:52] <ubotu> hmm... list is at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuFactoids
[07:52] <dooonz> it didnt learn anythign anyhow
[07:52] <poningru> nice infobot
[07:52] <Amaranth> don't do it in msg, it's harder to keep the junk out when i can't see it being set :)
[07:53] <Madpilot> "!list" has a URL with all of ubotu's commands - it's searchable
[07:53] <Amaranth> what the topic meant about what?
[07:53] <dooonz> Firefox problems? Disable backports & uninstall firefox before updating mozilla-firefoxok
[07:53] <ToRTuReD_X> haha!!
[07:53] <ridejib> ubotu is the win
[07:53] <ubotu> ridejib: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:53] <ToRTuReD_X> got gnome baker working :D
[07:53] <thoreauputic> dooonz: the topic only applies if you used backports and have their version of FF
[07:53] <Madpilot> !good bot
[07:53] <ubotu> thanks madpilot :)
[07:53] <ridejib> haha, sure ubotu. I think you are swell.
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> !good boot
[07:53] <ubotu> Dr_Willis: Are you smoking crack?
[07:53] <dooonz> hmm
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:54] <dooonz> i dont think so
[07:54] <dooonz> just used what came with ubuntu
[07:54] <Madpilot> only one "o" in bot...
[07:54] <helloyo> are there any common reasons why games don't work in cedega, the channel is dead, and i'm trying to get sim city 3000 working
[07:54] <dooonz> but it been closing when ever and when i try clicking on a d/l link nothing happens
[07:54] <gpd> !list
[07:54] <ubotu> I guess list is at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuFactoids
[07:54] <gpd> ubotu: list
[07:54] <bur[n] er> helloyo: get any errors?
[07:55] <helloyo> bur[n] er, nope, just nothing happens when i try to run the game (it installed though)
[07:55] <dooonz> im using version 1.0.2 if that helps
[07:55] <thoreauputic> gpd: it won't flood the channel with a long list - use /msg ubotu list
[07:55] <ridejib> good night all
[07:55] <thoreauputic> dooonz: sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:55] <ridejib> happy -debuggering
[07:55] <ridejib> lol
[07:55] <pablo928> Well, I guess I did it now. used "mkswap /dev/hda2" and now can't open any apps.
[07:55] <bur[n] er> helloyo: in that case, i dunno
[07:56] <dooonz> nothing thoreauputic
[07:56] <thoreauputic> dooonz: ?
[07:56] <frank> pablo928: lol
[07:56] <poningru> use dp people
[07:56] <poningru> seriously if microsoft were incharge of firefox
[07:57] <poningru> dp would be out the door in this condition
[07:57] <gpd> thoreauputic: is ubotu supybot?
[07:57] <dooonz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/815
[07:57] <frank> pablo928:  was that the right partition?
[07:57] <thoreauputic> dooonz: you mean it doesn't tell you anything needs upgrading? In that case something is wrong
[07:57] <pablo928> frank-Is tat kinda like reformattin my hd drive?
[07:57] <thoreauputic> gpd: ubotu is a blootbot
[07:57] <GNULinuxer> Hi jino
[07:57] <poningru> pablo928: what are you trying to do?
[07:57] <jino> hey
[07:57] <frank> pablo928:  well its formating part of it. whatever /hda2 was
[07:57] <jino> i\\\wats up
[07:58] <thoreauputic> dooonz: the latest FF in the repos is 1.0.6 now
[07:58] <jino> i have a problem
[07:58] <dooonz> hmm
[07:58] <dooonz> what do i do
[07:58] <GNULinuxer> lo NigelS
[07:58] <jino> GNULinuxer, i bought a new laptop
[07:58] <pablo928> frank-I thought it was the right partition. I just wanted to sepup a swapfile  for my memory.
[07:58] <thoreauputic> dooonz: do you have a standard /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:58] <jino> and installed ubuntu
[07:58] <GNULinuxer> lo feahfuogbcbosw
[07:58] <jino> it doestnt play mp3 and vidieo
[07:59] <thoreauputic> dooonz: and have you updated or reloaded synaptic?
[07:59] <poningru> !restricted formats
[07:59] <ubotu> I guess restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[07:59] <feahfuogbcbosw> GNULinuxer: I have to use this because some jackass keeps taking my real nick >:(
[07:59] <dooonz> yeah
[07:59] <frank> pablo928: oh you didn't have a swap file before?
[07:59] <GNULinuxer> feahfuogbcbosw: i see :)
[07:59] <dooonz> it shows up there
[07:59] <poningru> jino: follow whats written on that link
[07:59] <dooonz> just install it?
[07:59] <poningru> jino: let us know if you run into trouble
[07:59] <frank> pablo928: you probably formated your linux partition. assuming that is what was in /dev/hda2
[07:59] <thoreauputic> Agrajag: are you registered?
[07:59] <Agrajag> thoreauputic: yes
[08:00] <Agrajag> thus I can ghost him and take it back
[08:00] <pablo928> frank: for some reason in the install ther wasn't a swapfile setup.
[08:00] <jino> it says mp3 decoder is not present
[08:00] <thoreauputic> Agrajag: then do /msg nickserv ghost agrajag <password> if someone steals your nick
[08:00] <frank> pablo928: if you partition manually you have to set one up yourself as /dev/hda3 or something
[08:00] <Agrajag> yeah... I just said that
[08:00] <poningru> ubotu: tell jino about !codecs
[08:00] <poningru> sigh
[08:00] <jino> yup
[08:00] <poningru> ubotu: tell jino about codecs
[08:01] <Agrajag> it's still damn annoying
[08:01] <dooonz> !codecs
[08:01] <poningru> jino: did you get that?
[08:01] <thoreauputic> Agrajag: ah sorry - slow typist ;)
[08:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:01] <Agrajag> hah
[08:01] <pablo928> well, back to reloading Ubuntu. I'm glad this is my backup box.
[08:01] <frank> pablo928: I'm glad about that too!
[08:02] <frank> pablo928: when you play with partitions, make sure you know what you're doing
[08:02] <pablo928>  frank:and my main box does have a swap file!
[08:02] <jino> i got da link
[08:02] <poningru> cool
[08:02] <poningru> let me know if you run into any trouble
[08:03] <MrGardenHoseMan> how do i display my comp infor on the desktop? cpu, ram, etc
[08:03] <MrGardenHoseMan> info*
[08:03] <pablo928>  frank:I'm just surprized that the apps I have open are still functioning.
[08:03] <frank> pablo928: they are already in memory
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> MrGardenHoseMan,  tons of little system monitors out there. :P
[08:03] <Jet2k5> does anyone know the proper way to get rid of KDE afte I've downloaded throught apt-get?
[08:03] <frank> pablo928: your living in a figment of your computers imagination!
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> MrGardenHoseMan,  i think a nice one is called gkrellm or somthing like that.
[08:04] <thoreauputic> Jet2k5: removing libqt* should pretty much wipe KDE ;)
[08:04] <pablo928>  frank: in other word, I no longer have a OS?
[08:04] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks
[08:05] <adapter> what codecs are needed for .wmv to work?
[08:05] <poningru> pablo928: whats the prob exactly I havent followed your convo?
[08:05] <thoreauputic> MrGardenHoseMan: gkrellm is one example
[08:05] <frank> pablo928: not in hda2 for sure. was there a windows in hda1? it wont boot like this but its still there
[08:05] <poningru> adapter: w32codecs
[08:05] <adapter> hmm thought I got it already
[08:05] <dooonz> yay fixdd
[08:05] <poningru> ubotu: tell adapter about codecs
[08:06] <poningru> adapter: read through that see if there is something else
[08:06] <pablo928> frank- I have WinXP on another partition. I shouldn't have destroyed my MBR.
[08:07] <frank> pablo928: the installer will have installed grub on it and grub will not work until you install ubuntu again
[08:07] <adapter> sudo apt-get install w32codecs is installed already
[08:07] <adapter> are there any other ones?
[08:07] <ColonelKernel> if I have a pentium 4 is it better for me to install mplayer-386 or mplayer-586? there isnt a 686
[08:07] <pablo928> frank: I'm going to reboot now and see what haPPENS.
[08:07] <thoreauputic> ColonelKernel: 586
[08:07] <frank> windows wont load now but it will after you install again
[08:08] <pablo928> frank: oK i'LL GIVE IT A TRY.  sEE YOU.
[08:08] <ColonelKernel> thankyou
[08:08] <adapter> should I not use totem player maybe?
[08:08] <jino> poningru, i have added hpary hedge binary repositary
[08:08] <gpd> so I'm trying to load this djplay thing from ^^ but it is failing to find libjack.so.0... I could install all the libjack things from apt-cache search but how do I find that file int he apt repositories? not dpkg -S for sure
[08:08] <thoreauputic> ColonelKernel: fun nick BTW :)
[08:09] <ColonelKernel> thanks
[08:09] <ColonelKernel> i like to play w kernels
[08:09] <ColonelKernel> Linux p4ht 2.6.12-custom #1 SMP Mon Jul 25 22:45:04 PDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:09] <Randall64> gpd: apt-file, works like apt-cache
[08:09] <poningru> jino: ?
[08:09] <ColonelKernel> just a shame you cant use vanilla kernels with ubuntu
[08:09] <poningru> jino: sorry what were you trying to do again?
[08:10] <levander> lsmod | grep udf
[08:10] <thoreauputic> ColonelKernel: ex Slacker?
[08:10] <ColonelKernel> ex fedora/deb/gentoo
[08:10] <thoreauputic> ah
[08:10] <poningru> jino: were you trying to play mp3 and dvd?
[08:10] <thoreauputic> surely you can't use vanilla kernels with fedora?
[08:10] <jino> poningru, mp3
[08:11] <jino> and dvd too
[08:11] <Randall64> thore: why not?
[08:11] <jino> i have a lot of problems
[08:11] <ColonelKernel> i used fedora on this box before I switched to ubuntu, there is a nutty op in #fedora who makes the experience unpleasant, so I switched distros
[08:11] <poningru> jino: ok what did you do exactly?
[08:11] <thoreauputic> ColonelKernel: heheh
[08:11] <jino> i went to repositiories in synaptic
[08:11] <hyphenated> ColonelKernel: heh, what a great reason to switch distros
[08:11] <poningru> jino: first thing you should ahve done is added the extra repositoreis
[08:11] <ColonelKernel> you can use vanilla kernels on fedora no prob;
[08:11] <poningru> right
[08:11] <pablo928> frank: You were right. Grub is gone.
[08:11] <jino> and added hoary hedge
[08:11] <jino> where do i do that
[08:11] <ColonelKernel> hyphenated, he did me a favor, im much happier with ubuntu
[08:12] <pablo928> I' had to switch boxes.
[08:12] <poningru> jino: you were on the right path
[08:12] <jino> okie
[08:12] <jino> so
[08:12] <gpd> Randall64: apt-file search  libjack.so.0 gives nothing... some testing reveals it doesn't find exisitng files?
[08:12] <jino> how do i move
[08:12] <ColonelKernel> I would thank the guy but ive been banned in #fedora since july 8 for no reason
[08:12] <thoreauputic> !find libjack.so.0
[08:13] <thoreauputic> hmm
[08:13] <jino> poningru, i have installed a few media players aswell
[08:13] <jino> but no use
[08:13] <thoreauputic> !find libjack
[08:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'libjack' (4 shown): libjack0.80.0-0 ;; libjack0.80.0-dev ;; libjackasyn-dev ;; libjackasyn0.
[08:14] <gpd> thoreauputic: that is apt-cache search libjack
[08:14] <poningru> jino: hold on
[08:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libjack.so.0' returned no results.
[08:14] <jino> okie
[08:14] <poningru> give me couple of sec
[08:14] <jino> okie
[08:14] <thoreauputic> gpd: yes, you're right
[08:14] <ColonelKernel> i checked out deb testing but it doesnt use gnome 2.10 OR xorg
[08:14] <gpd> thoreauputic: that is easy... but finding a specific file in the repository i have not achieved
[08:14] <ColonelKernel> I wasnt very happy with that
[08:14] <miko> lg ngapain?
[08:15] <thoreauputic> gpd: in theory apt-file should do it if it exists... puzzling
[08:15] <gpd> thoreauputic: does apt-file require the full path?
[08:15] <Randall64> gpd: Did you apt-file update?
[08:15] <gpd> Randall64: no... i'll try
[08:15] <Randall64> heh
[08:15] <kozlyk> what is libjack for?
[08:15] <thoreauputic> gpd: I don't think so
[08:16] <poningru> jino back
[08:16] <Randall64> gpd: It's like apt-cache in that it relies on having actual data to search ;)
[08:16] <gpd> thoreauputic: Randall64 I assumed it was using the apt-get database
[08:16] <Randall64> gpd: I probably assumed that too.
[08:16] <poningru> ok so you added universe and multiverse right?
[08:16] <gpd> Randall64: thoreauputic seems to be downloading Contents-xxx.gz interesting...
[08:17] <jino> i din add multivers
[08:17] <Randall64> Just who is he talking to?
[08:17] <jino> i have installed gstream now
[08:17] <jino> from package manager
[08:17] <jino> will that do?
[08:17] <airmikey_> anyone here get mplayer to play movies on laptop ?
[08:17] <ricosuave17> bob2: what resolution do u use?
[08:18] <jino> poningru, should i add multiverse too
[08:18] <adapter> hmm mplayer won't even work
[08:18] <adapter> it just freezes up
[08:18] <poningru> jino: yes
[08:18] <jino> okie
[08:18] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: do a /whois bob2 - I'd say he's away >> [bob2]  is away (lunch)
[08:18] <Randall64> adapter: What's the last line in your terminal?
[08:19] <adapter> I wasn't loading it from there
[08:19] <poningru> jino: actually for mp3 you shouldnt need the multiverse
[08:19] <poningru> gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:19] <poningru> install that package
[08:19] <ricosuave17> weird its 2:19 am for me
[08:19] <adapter> it is already
[08:19] <adapter> and so are all the codecs
[08:19] <adapter> yet it won't play a .wmv
[08:20] <ToRTuReD_X> i got a q
[08:20] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: funny eh? There's a world out there, mate
[08:20] <ToRTuReD_X> is there any software to hook up mp3 players in ubuntu
[08:20] <Randall64> adapter: What errors are you getting?
[08:20] <ToRTuReD_X> like a creative audio mp3 player
[08:20] <jino> poningru, i have installed it
[08:20] <ricosuave17> thoreauputic:  u british
[08:20] <jino> should i restart
[08:20] <adapter> I'm not seeing any errors
[08:20] <gpd> does bob2 get paid for this?
[08:20] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: nope
[08:20] <poningru> jino: no need
[08:21] <jino> wat shall i do
[08:21] <jino> killall?
[08:21] <poningru> try playing an mp3 player
[08:21] <jino> okie
[08:21] <ricosuave17> american
[08:21] <ricosuave17> ?
[08:21] <cafuego> gpd: Only in karma
[08:21] <Randall64> adapter: wow, mplayer is insanely verbose most of the time
[08:21] <bob2> gpd: no
[08:21] <poningru> jino restart the music player if its already open
[08:21] <bob2> I get anti-paid by not doing real work
[08:22] <adapter> a .mpg just froze it too
[08:22] <gpd> bob2: hard luck :(
[08:22] <adapter> but .mpg will work fine in totem
[08:22] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: erm - right click my name in xchat and look at the country...
[08:22] <ricosuave17> hey bob2 did u enjoy ur lunch
[08:22] <ricosuave17> COOL I LOVE AUSSIE
[08:22] <jino> poningru,  my previous player is open
[08:22] <Randall64> I just know this hours-long resize2fs is going to blow away all my data.
[08:22] <jino> and it has hanged
[08:22] <jino> how do i close it
[08:22] <poningru> jino: force kill
[08:23] <poningru> jino: go to application
[08:23] <poningru> system
[08:23] <cafuego> jino: "hung" - "hanged" is with a rope ;-)
[08:23] <jino> thanx
[08:23] <poningru> sytem tools I mean
[08:23] <poningru> and then click on system monitor
[08:23] <ToRTuReD_X> well
[08:23] <poningru> find your player
[08:23] <adapter> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs is all I need right?
[08:23] <bob2> ricosuave17: yes, thanks
[08:23] <bob2> poningru: you really don't
[08:23] <ToRTuReD_X> still gotta install java for mozilla when i get back
[08:23] <poningru> bob2: ?
[08:23] <ricosuave17> bob2: were in the world r u
[08:24] <bob2> ricosuave17: australia
[08:24] <poningru> if its hanged then it must be killed
[08:24] <jino> poningru,  how
[08:24] <ricosuave17> cool is it 2 pm for u
[08:24] <Randall64> If it's hanged, it's surely dead already.
[08:24] <bob2> ricosuave17: why?
[08:24] <bob2> if you have ubuntu questions, ask them in the channel
[08:24] <cafuego> Randall64: might still be twitching
[08:24] <cafuego> ricosuave17: No, bob2 is not in perth.
[08:24] <Randall64> cafuego: That's hardly a threat to anyone though.
[08:24] <gpd> thoreauputic: Randall64 some interesting things emerge... alien ignores obvious dependency for libjack.so.0... ubuntu does not have said file anywhere... apt-file is useful but needs to be updated independently from apt-get... libjack0.80.0 is clearly far newer than djplay... djplay is probably not worth installing ;)
[08:24] <poningru> jino: find your music player
[08:24] <adapter> god damn I wish this would work
[08:25] <adapter> I would think it would
[08:25] <jino> xmmx
[08:25] <light_punch2> is gcc in the ubuntu cd? if not, distrowatch should not include it there.
[08:25] <adapter> if other files types play
[08:25] <jino> xmms i mean
[08:25] <cafuego> Randall64: it might lose bowel control at someone ;-)
[08:25] <Randall64> Isn't libjack that thing that replaced that other thing?
[08:25] <ricosuave17> oh ok i know a goth girl from perth
[08:25] <bob2> ricosuave17: ah, misinterprted you, sorry.  it's 1624
[08:25] <Randall64> Maybe ubuntu still has that other thing.
[08:25] <Randall64> Better alien libjack!
[08:26] <poningru> jino: did you shut it down?
[08:26] <jino> no
[08:26] <poningru> also to play music I would recomend rythmbox
[08:26] <poningru> did you find xmms?
[08:26] <jino> where do i
[08:26] <ricosuave17> bob2: im curious about ur age just so i know if u go to school or not
[08:26] <poningru> in system tools
[08:26] <Randall64> You want juk!
[08:26] <poningru> in system monitor
[08:26] <bob2> ricosuave17: 22, no I'm not currently at school
[08:26] <joe_1234> help allchanl
[08:26] <Randall64> What's your name, girl, what's your sign?
[08:26] <poningru> jino: click on application
[08:27] <poningru> click on system tools
[08:27] <poningru> click on system monitor
[08:27] <thoreauputic> light_punch2:  apt-cache policy build-essential ; apt-cache show build-essential
[08:27] <poningru> and find xmms
[08:27] <bob2> joe_1234: you don't seem to have asked a question yet
[08:27] <thoreauputic> light_punch2: it's on the cd
[08:27] <ricosuave17> bob2: do u know this school helena college
[08:27] <bob2> ricosuave17: n
[08:27] <bob2> o
[08:27] <cafuego> bob2: it's to do with stopping a time reversal accident
[08:28] <jino> yup it is done
[08:28] <bob2> haha
[08:28] <gpd> bob2: in case you don't know 'school' in the USA means anything from kindergarten to PhD...
[08:28] <bob2> gpd: yeah, I gathered that
[08:28] <poningru> jino: now open up rythmbox
[08:28] <adapter> oh well until I figure this out it's all .mpegs for me :P
[08:28] <cafuego> ricosuave17: There are tends of thousands of schools in asutralia. Australia is larger than the US.
[08:28] <Randall64> And a "rubber" outside the US can be an eraser.
[08:28] <gpd> in the UK school stops at 16...so the question is fairly insulting... probably the same in Oz...
[08:28] <ricosuave17> i know but this school is in perth
[08:29] <hyphenated> gpd: and there's very little difference in content ;-)
[08:29] <cafuego> ricosuave17: It's anot  ahappy small village where everyone knows everyone
[08:29] <jino> i din install rythmbox
[08:29] <gpd> I am british but I live in LA...
[08:29] <ricosuave17> dude i know
[08:29] <poningru> jino: just use your player then
[08:29] <poningru> its no big deal
[08:29] <ricosuave17> gpd: cool im going to become a british citizen
[08:29] <bob2> ricosuave17: perth's a long way from here
[08:29] <poningru> but I like rythmbox
[08:29] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: perth is a fair sized city
[08:29] <cafuego> though it on occasion seems to be, in melbourne :-/
[08:29] <poningru> its each persons choice
[08:29] <ToRTuReD_X> gDesklets are the same as wiki's in windows rights?
[08:29] <jino> but it doesnt work
[08:29] <poningru> anyway try playing an mp3 song
[08:29] <jino> i tried
[08:29] <poningru> ?
[08:29] <cafuego> perth is nice, /me was there last weekend
[08:30] <kozlyk> does ubuntu and gnome let me know when new updates are available?
[08:30] <jino> my player
[08:30] <poningru> oh
[08:30] <ToRTuReD_X> those things that sit on your desktop with hard drive info speed etc
[08:30] <bob2> kozlyk: yes
[08:30] <poningru> hehe oops
[08:30] <ricosuave17> it should
[08:30] <poningru> gstream-mad is for rythmbox only
[08:30] <poningru> install w32codecs
[08:30] <cafuego> Perth has ~ 1 million inhabitants
[08:30] <poningru> and gstreamer0.8-plugins
[08:31] <pablo928>  bob2- I'm doing a reinstall on my backup box. If I upgrade to Breezy will it at least boot?
[08:31] <jino> i have installed that
[08:31] <kozlyk> how does one go about force quitting a stalled app.  my mplayer is sitting pretty dead right now...
[08:31] <poningru> jino: both of them?
[08:31] <poningru> hmm weird
[08:31] <jino> nope
[08:31] <jino> win32 codecs
[08:31] <cafuego> kozlyk: terminal, ps x, find the PID, kill -9 <pid>
[08:31] <bob2> pablo928: X won't start
[08:31] <Randall64> kozlyk: ctrl-c`
[08:31] <poningru> yeah install gstreamer0.8-plugins as well
[08:32] <shawarma> kozlyk: If you're running gnome, clicking the close-button on the window usually does the trick. If the app doesn't die properly a popup appears asking if you want to have it killed.
[08:32] <pablo928>  bob2- still won't? that's why I had to do a reinstall about 2 weeks ago.
[08:32] <poningru> shadeland: that doesnt work all the time
[08:32] <jino> done
[08:32] <poningru> atleast for me
[08:32] <bob2> pablo928: X is being completly re-done
[08:32] <poningru> jino: make sure to reastart xmms
[08:32] <bob2> it's a mammoth task
[08:32] <jino> okie
[08:32] <nJess> how do i disable the scrolling edges of my laptop trackpad?
[08:33] <kozlyk> shawarma:  I have hit the close button a few times, and the mplayer sits there with a nice blue screen.  I think i was trying to see if my w32codecs worked properly :)
[08:33] <poningru> jino: now play mp3
[08:33] <pablo928>  bob2- are they still going to use xserver-xorg?
[08:33] <poningru> an*
[08:33] <bob2> pablo928: yes
[08:33] <Randall64> kozlyk: try xkill
[08:33] <bob2> pablo928: the packaging is being completly changed (e.g. it's being split into lots and lots of tiny little .debs)
[08:33] <bob2> which will be geat in the future, since you can swap them out
[08:33] <bob2> and fix them more easily
[08:34] <shawarma> kozlyk: I see.
[08:34] <gpd> bob2: you have a linode don't you... you occasionally surface in there ;)
[08:34] <kozlyk> randall64: worked like a charm.  First time i hit the bottom bar (silly me), but it restarted :)
[08:34] <thoreauputic> bob2: will these changes go to debian sid as well ?
[08:35] <pablo928>  bob2-I guess I'll just have to stay with Hoary for the time being. I don't really like command line all that well.
[08:35] <bob2> gpd: heh, yeah, usually only when it breaks
[08:35] <jino> poningru,  it doesnt work
[08:35] <Randall64> kozlyk: boom!
[08:35] <Razor-X> mmmm, i'm liking ZSH more and more as I read about it ;)
[08:35] <poningru> hmm
[08:35] <elsha> anyone have experience with webcams and ubuntu?
[08:35] <Randall64> ZSH IS GREAT
[08:35] <bob2> thoreauputic: yeah, the debian X people are stabilising the old tree in sid before they break it all again, tho ;)
[08:35] <gpd> bob2: me too :)  caker++
[08:35] <thoreauputic> bob2: ah i see - thanks :)
[08:35] <fd> how do i kill my gnome panel
[08:35] <fd> even if i cant see it
[08:36] <Razor-X> all i've done insofar, though, is change my prompt from %m%# ;)
[08:36] <poningru> jino: I have no clue, try restarting the computer
[08:36] <poningru> although that should make no diff
[08:36] <jino> how do i get rythmox
[08:36] <poningru> its in synaptic
[08:36] <Randall64> jino: The way you get everything else?
[08:36] <Madpilot> rythymbox? it's installed by default, isn't it?
[08:36] <thoreauputic> jino: rhythmbox is the default player in ubuntu
[08:36] <gpd> everybody here... go buy a linode virtual server and install ubuntu :)
[08:37] <Randall64> gpd: why?
[08:37] <gpd> Randall64: best server I ever had... your own root box on a VERY fat pipe :)
[08:38] <poningru> jino: rythmbox is the music player under sound & video
[08:38] <fd> how do i list the process im runing
[08:38] <Randall64> gpd: fair enough, now go buy a mac
[08:38] <thoreauputic> fd: ps aux  lists the lot
[08:38] <rob^> I can't remember who it was, but for those intrested there is a draft of Beep Media Player + Plugins Guide at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer
[08:39] <jino> wher do i find sound and vidio
[08:39] <thoreauputic> fd: pgrep <process> finds a particular pid
[08:39] <gpd> Randall64: I have a dual 2Gig G5 at work... very nice :)
[08:39] <gpd> Randall64: but I am not sure of the significance...
[08:39] <poningru> jino: under applications
[08:40] <poningru> jino: if it still doesnt work take a look at this
[08:40] <poningru> http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[08:40] <poningru> try installing all of that
[08:40] <Randall64> gpd: Well, you offered me a server, so I at least had to offer you a desktop.
[08:40] <rob^> !bmp
[08:40] <ubotu> rob^: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[08:41] <rob^> ubotu bmp is a guide to Beep Media Player and Plugins, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer
[08:41] <ubotu> rob^: okay
[08:41] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: there's a pgrep?
[08:41] <gpd> Randall64: fair enough... but seriously, check them out linode.com ... (I don't work for them)
[08:41] <Razor-X> hah, I just use normal grep meself ;)
[08:41] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: sure is :)
[08:41] <Razor-X> ps -e | grep blah
[08:41] <Razor-X> dunno why you should use aux to grep
[08:41] <hyphenated> I use fuser /path/to/program to get pids
[08:41] <Razor-X> -e is the nicest to grep, IMO ;)
[08:42] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: it's good for lazy typists like me ;)
[08:42] <thoreauputic> pgrep i mean
[08:42] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: or, you can make an alias ;)
[08:42] <Amaranth> rob^: i think you wanted info :)
[08:42] <Razor-X> I think I shall
[08:42] <Amaranth> !info beep-media-player
[08:42] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: true
[08:42] <ubotu> beep-media-player: (Versatile audio player that supports Winamp skins), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9.7-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 893 kB, Installed size: 3712 kB
[08:42] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: ZSH kicks ass ;)
[08:42] <rob^> Amaranth, no someone else did, I just finished writing a guide for it
[08:42] <Amaranth> rob^: I mean the !info command :)
[08:43] <Computer__Guru> okay, i decided to check out python.. im using boa constructor, and i LOVE how it works.. the question that I have is this: Is the a way to use pyGTK instead of wxPython? wxPython is hideous
[08:43] <rob^> Amaranth, yeah I know that one.. someone asked me about the guide earlier
[08:43] <ToRTuReD_X> rob
[08:44] <ToRTuReD_X> how ya goin mate?
[08:44] <Razor-X> beep-media-player needs a guide? ;)
[08:44] <ricosuave17> nop it needs a beep
[08:44] <Razor-X> I'm one of the few programmers (I think) that likes to write verbose documentation ;)
[08:45] <{Phoinix}> Hello, I'm having a great problem with my ubuntu system. Everything was well ,until i tried to install Vmware for linux. The installation was succesefully but now whenever i am issuing a sudo command in the shell the shell crashes... it does not respond to ctrl-c. Moreover i can't use synaptic and i can't use everything that needs root priveleges..
[08:45] <Razor-X> I think I should make some BASHPodder documentation
[08:45] <bob2> {Phoinix}: surely vmware gives you support now you paid for their product?
[08:45] <Razor-X> bob2: that's evil ;)
[08:45] <poningru> jino: did it work?
[08:45] <frank> is gaim still working? kopete just stopped working?
[08:45] <bob2> no, loading binary only drivers into your kernel means only the binary driver supplier can help
[08:46] <{Phoinix}> bob2, i didn't pay it ;-)... ANd i don't know if the problem come 100% from vmware
[08:46] <Razor-X> bob2: because most people that use VMWare don't pay for it
[08:46] <bob2> {Phoinix}: does thae problem recur if you don't load the modules?
[08:46] <{Phoinix}> I haven't notice.. I'l try to delete the modules tha vmware uses an try again.. U think that the vmware modules caused the problem?
[08:47] <bob2> you need to reboot before checking
[08:47] <gpd> beware of pirated vmware... they somehow find your email address...
[08:47] <gpd> why did xmms fork to bmp?  politics?
[08:48] <Razor-X> also, someone sorely needs to make a more efficient internet shorthand than netspeak
[08:48] <bob2> I'd assume because the xmms people rightly considered it feature complete
[08:48] <Razor-X> and make an in build parser for it
[08:48] <bob2> all bmp does is use gtk and have less plugins
[08:48] <Razor-X> s/in build/in-built/
[08:48] <Razor-X> netspeak is a mixture of goobledygook someone thought was needed one day....
[08:49] <Razor-X> anyone willing to discuss it with me in offtopic?
[08:49] <{Phoinix}> bob2, if i unload the vmware modules and try? Must i reboot?
[08:49] <Razor-X> {Phoinix}: one of the few instances, yes ;)
[08:49] <bob2> {Phoinix}: of course
[08:49] <bob2> the module has already crapped all over your kernel
[08:49] <{Phoinix}> So vmware is a crappy program.. :-(
[08:49] <IIIEars> Razor-X sry - IMHO IDM - grin
[08:49] <frank> {Phoinix}: i had no problems with vmware. What version do you have?
[08:50] <Razor-X> IIIEars: IDM? ;)
[08:50] <Razor-X> my netspeak sucks
[08:50] <{Phoinix}> frank, 5.. something
[08:50] <bob2> {Phoinix}: no idea, but it's not in ubuntu, and no one but vmware can fix potetnail problems with it
[08:50] <Razor-X> because I use none
[08:50] <frank> build 13124?
[08:50] <Razor-X> not even ``u''
[08:50] <Razor-X> which is pretty common
[08:50] <Razor-X> that's why I suggest the inbuilt parses
[08:50] <Razor-X> anyways, I don't want to clog the channel with what doesen't belong
[08:50] <Razor-X> s/parses/parser/
[08:51] <{Phoinix}> bob2, is this is a common problem with vmware modules?
[08:51] <bob2> I have no idea
[08:51] <Razor-X> {Phoinix}: not many people use VMWare
[08:51] <IIIEars> Razor-X - nice idea. -
[08:51] <Razor-X> most use QEMU
[08:51] <bob2> but really, it's proprietary software, you need support from the vendor
[08:51] <{Phoinix}> QEMU.. i'll google it. Thanks
[08:51] <bob2> there's little anyone else can do to fix it
[08:51] <bob2> qemu isn't a replacement for vmware
[08:51] <Razor-X> QEMU is free, which also means an IRC team for support
[08:51] <{Phoinix}> But now.. priority no1 is to fix my ubuntu installation :-(
[08:51] <Razor-X> bob2: but it's the closest
[08:52] <Razor-X> speed-wise, anyways
[08:52] <cs378> nice, gnome is much better than kde except for its look hmmm
[08:52] <kozlyk> hey if i open up my xp computer for file sharing, is there anything in ubuntu i have to do to see the directories?
[08:52] <bob2> kozlyk: places -> network in gnome
[08:52] <IIIEars> cs378 - Gnome is nearly as customisable.
[08:53] <kozlyk> bob2: i have done that and it shows the xp laptop but no directories
[08:53] <cs378> IIIEars: yes it is, this is my 5 th day usin linux haha
[08:53] <bob2> kozlyk: is the XP machine sharing any directories
[08:53] <IIIEars> Welcome! :)
[08:53] <kozlyk> yeah C and a 'share' directory
[08:54] <DekaPink> How can I stop Ubuntu to stop trying to sync the clock with whatever when it's booting up since it never works anyway? ^^;
[08:54] <cs378> brb, gonna test my wireless
[08:54] <{Phoinix}> i tryied to uninstall sudo.. with apt-get remove sudo. but apt decided that it should uninstall a banch of other crussial programs along with it like gdm
[08:54] <thoreauputic> DekaPink: ctrl-c  or look at man update-rc.d
[08:54] <drew> why would you uninstall sudo? o_O
[08:54] <bob2> {Phoinix}: er, don't do that
[08:55] <jino> Seveas, plz help me instaling an mp3 player
[08:55] <IIIEars> 16,272 free apps available with apt-get/synaptic - more on the open source sites freshmeat.net and sourceforge
[08:55] <jino> i have tried a lot
[08:55] <{Phoinix}> bob2, ok.. i hope only deleting the modules and crapy vmware will solve the problem
[08:55] <cafuego> It's good when the new VPN works right.
[08:55] <frank> {Phoinix}: try to run the uninstall script
[08:55] <cs378_> wow ubuntu wireless work out of the box, the kubuntu didnt work niceee hahaha
[08:56] <shido> what can I use to graphically edit partitions under ubuntu?
[08:56] <Razor-X> cs378_: did you reinstall?
[08:56] <kozlyk> bob2: any ideas?  I have C sharing and folder under it...
[08:56] <{Phoinix}> frank, what script? Vmware script?
[08:56] <frank> shido: gparted or qparted
[08:56] <bob2> kozlyk: no, sorry
[08:56] <thoreauputic> DekaPink: sorry I should have mentioned the process is ntpdate
[08:56] <Razor-X> or did you just download Gnome, cs378_ ?
[08:56] <frank> {Phoinix}: ill check to make sure it does exist :-)
[08:57] <shido> thanks
[08:57] <Razor-X> shido: qtparted is real nice
[08:57] <shido> installing now
[08:57] <cs378_> Razor-X: yes, i did a fresh install to ubuntu
[08:57] <shido> done...
[08:57] <ray_> anybody know how to change the background image for kdm?
[08:57] <shido> qtparted?
[08:57] <shido> ok, I'll install that, too
[08:57] <Razor-X> cs378_: probably the version's gone up
[08:57] <frank> {Phoinix}: sudo vmware-uninstall.pl
[08:57] <Razor-X> shido: qparted isn't a package
[08:57] <Razor-X> least, I don't think so
[08:57] <jino> bob2, will u plz help
[08:57] <{Phoinix}> frank.. I CAN"T USE sudo.. that's my problem
[08:57] <Razor-X> nope
[08:57] <DekaPink> thoreauputic, thanks. :D
[08:57] <jino> i need mp3 player on linux
[08:57] <bob2> jino: that's really annoying
[08:57] <cs378_> Razor-X: maybe, after install, i did update 36 files i think
[08:57] <bob2> jino: also, you didn't even read the FAQ
[08:57] <shido> OOOh, thanks
[08:58] <{Phoinix}> frank, I want to uninstall vmware and it's modules so that the sudo command will not crash anymore
[08:58] <bob2> jino: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:58] <Razor-X> cs378_: there's no difference between the two except the WM
[08:58] <Micksa> bleagh.
[08:58] <Razor-X> so, Wireless shouldn't work in one and not the other
[08:58] <frank> {Phoinix}: you'll have to use a live cd or something probably
[08:58] <Razor-X> {Phoinix}: unload the modules, restart, and uninstall
[08:58] <cs378_> Razor-X: don kno, im a newbie, i just got lots of errors usin kde, hope gnome dont gives me error
[08:58] <{Phoinix}> ok.. I hope i won't have to format :-(((((
[08:59] <frank> Razor-X: but he can't use sudo
[08:59] <Razor-X> cs378_: just saying, Credit given where Credit's due
[08:59] <Razor-X> frank: ahhh hmmmm
[08:59] <Razor-X> try a boot floppy
[08:59] <tkiesel> What's up Micksa?
[08:59] <La_PaRCa> Hey. I am trying to setup xchat to use tor via privoxy but its not working. What are the steps I need to take?
[08:59] <{Phoinix}> I am lucky.. because i have activated the root password before the problem appeared. With sudo passwd root!! :-)
[08:59] <mebaran> hey
[09:00] <{Phoinix}> And i can use su
[09:00] <shido> i like gparted
[09:00] <mebaran> could anyone help me setup my Via Envy Onboard Sound?
[09:00] <shido> a lot!
[09:00] <frank> {Phoinix}: oh great!
[09:00] <Razor-X> shido: qtparted is much better
[09:00] <Razor-X> gparted is pretty old
[09:00] <cs378_> Razor-X: thx again, u were a great help b4 while i was usin kde hehe
[09:00] <frank> {Phoinix}: then you can run the uninstall script
[09:00] <Razor-X> cs378_: heh
[09:00] <shido> I finally got my first sata drive
[09:00] <Razor-X> well, like I said, i'm a KDE user through and through (when I use a GUI)
[09:00] <tkiesel> La_PaRCa: Have you tried setting the proxy up in X-Chat's network settings?
[09:00] <kozlyk> bob2: would ubuntu have difficulties accessing a xp drive with NTFS?
[09:00] <{Phoinix}> ok frank , i 'l try it !!! thanks
[09:00] <shido> and wanted to move my xp partition to it
[09:00] <shido> but decided... screw xp
[09:00] <bob2> kozlyk: read-only? no.
[09:00] <Razor-X> kozlyk: it can read and execute, but not write
[09:01] <mebaran> I dont know why it isnt making dev/dsp
[09:01] <mebaran> it loads a module
[09:01] <mebaran> but I dont know what the module shouldbe
[09:01] <mebaran> Via Envy
[09:01] <bob2> kozlyk: if you mean over smb, of course not, it doesn't know or care what filesystem the underlying drive is
[09:01] <mebaran> Via Envy 24PT to be exact
[09:01] <bob2> mebaran: so, you googled and found nothing?
[09:01] <kozlyk> i can send files no problem via samba from xp to ubuntu
[09:01] <{Phoinix}> The irony is that vmware worls perfectly.... lol. But it tottaly messed up my system
[09:01] <lool> quitte: yes?
[09:02] <kozlyk> just i can only see the xp computer on the ubuntu network window
[09:02] <bob2> thats not irony, it's a bug
[09:02] <kozlyk> no drives
[09:02] <frank> {Phoinix}: that is really strange. vmware worked fine for me in ubuntu and kubuntu
[09:02] <mebaran> eh that is a good idea
[09:02] <Razor-X> mebaran: ;)
[09:02] <Razor-X> frank: wow, you're rich ;)
[09:02] <La_PaRCa> tkiesel, yes, but when I do, I cant get a connection, and I dont even see a request in privoxy
[09:03] <Razor-X> Windows gives me headaches nowadays :(
[09:03] <frank> Razor-X: oh yes... ;-)
[09:03] <mebaran> Razor-X, me too
[09:03] <mebaran> (devices that arent files ... bah)
[09:03] <Razor-X> mebaran: for most, it's the other way 'round ;)
[09:03] <tkiesel> La_PaRCa: Do you have any otehr applications successfully using Privoxy to reach Tor?
[09:03] <kozlyk> just says it can't display all the contents of that computer
[09:03] <Madpilot> Razor-X: heh
[09:03] <La_PaRCa> tkiesel, yes, firefox
[09:03] <{Phoinix}> frank, i don't know.. The system worked fine before the vmware installation.. Maybe the problem appeared because i have altered the ubuntu kernel with one from kernel.org. Vannilla
[09:03] <tkiesel> La_PaRCa: And equivalent settings in X-Chat don't work?
[09:04] <mebaran> Razor-X, and automounting sucks!
[09:04] <Razor-X> mebaran: totally
[09:04] <Razor-X> and their GUI sucks ass
[09:04] <frank> {Phoinix}: did your kernel headers match the running kernel??
[09:04] <Razor-X> even 9wm is superior to the Windows GUI
[09:04] <mebaran> ok it loads the correct module
[09:04] <mebaran> ice1724
[09:04] <La_PaRCa> tkiesel, I have tried with host:127.0.0.1 port:8118 type:HTTP and it didnt work
[09:04] <{Phoinix}> frank, Yes
[09:04] <nJess> question: can linux see that i am pressing the bluetooth button on my laptop, if when i press it, it lights up, and if so, how can i check?
[09:04] <c0al> If i want to disable a service that is in /etc/init.d/  - should i just delete the file or is there a better way to do it?
[09:05] <tkiesel> La_PaRCa: Is Privoxy only configured to use certain ports, either inbound or outbound? (Like say, port 80 for web browsing)
[09:05] <mebaran> but it doesnt make the /dev/dsp
[09:05] <bob2> nJess: highly machine-specific
[09:05] <bob2> nJess: it might just be hardware physically detaching the BT module from the machine
[09:05] <thoreauputic> c0al: man update-rc.d
[09:05] <nJess> well, is there anyway to tell if linux is registering a keypress?
[09:05] <La_PaRCa> tkiesel, um, not sure... it is using the default configuration
[09:05] <c0al> thoreauputic, thanks much! :)
[09:05] <bob2> nJess: try 'tail -f /var/log/messages' while doing it
[09:05] <frank> {Phoinix}: could it be that vmware still made a mistake. Or maybe the kernel you have is too new and vmware's modules don't work well with it
[09:05] <tkiesel> Hrrrrrm.
[09:05] <bob2> nJess: it would be unlikely yo be a keypress
[09:05] <nJess> bob2, when i press it in windows, i get an error on screen telling me i have no bluetooth device to enable
[09:05] <bob2> it might be an acpi event
[09:05] <nJess> so what would that be?
[09:06] <mebaran> so bob2 how do I make udev make /dev/dsp
[09:06] <{Phoinix}> frank, it's 2.6.12.2
[09:06] <bob2> again, depends
[09:06] <bob2> mebaran: by loading the right module
[09:06] <shido> anyone used cedega for ubuntu?
[09:06] <mebaran> bob2, I think the module is loade
[09:06] <{Phoinix}> frank, it's new :-)
[09:06] <mebaran> d
[09:06] <shido> from transgaming.com
[09:06] <mebaran> google says it is ice1724
[09:06] <frank> {Phoinix}: maybe vmware doesn't work well with 2.6.12...
[09:06] <mebaran> and I have snd_ice1724
[09:06] <{Phoinix}> nayby...
[09:06] <{Phoinix}> mayby..
[09:06] <mebaran> I think alsa is misconfigured
[09:07] <bob2> mebaran: I think it isn't
[09:07] <{Phoinix}> shido, i have.. but i wish i didn't
[09:07] <nJess> bob2, can i pm you?
[09:07] <bob2> nJess: are you going to give me money?
[09:07] <frank> {Phoinix}: oh well, you brought this on yourself, most likely. :)
[09:07] <bob2> I don't know anything else to suggest, sorry
[09:07] <nJess> bob2, probably not :)
[09:07] <bob2> aside from doing lots of googling and asking on the acpi list
[09:07] <tkiesel> La_PaRCa: Have you tried setting the type of proxy in X-Chat to somethign other than HTTP?  I'm reading a howto here that I grabbed off of Google, and I think they're using an irc client through Privoxy.. type Socks4..  or 5
[09:07] <nJess> i want to pm you my console output when i pressed that button
[09:08] <{Phoinix}> frant ;-) shido, u can find it in amule, or a lot of torrrent sites ;-)
[09:08] <bob2> nJess: #flood
[09:08] <{Phoinix}> frank ;-) shido, u can find it in amule, or a lot of torrrent sites ;-)
[09:08] <bob2> warez is off-topic
[09:08] <{Phoinix}> sorry,,,
[09:08] <bob2> with a zero tolerance policy, sorry
[09:08] <bob2> nJess: it's a keypress then
[09:08] <La_PaRCa> tkiesel, when I use HTTP it returns a 403 error, when I use any of the other types it just times out
[09:08] <tkiesel> La_PaRCa: Check this out. "The rule of thumb is that if the program uses web protocols have it connect via port 8118 to use Privoxy, if it doesn't have it connect as if to a Socks4 application proxy on port 9050."
[09:09] <nJess> bob2, so that means i can set it to do something?
[09:09] <tkiesel> La_PaRCa: Different port.
[09:09] <bob2> nJess: yes, but it may not be simple
[09:09] <bob2> ie X doesn't have a key symbol for it
[09:09] <root> La_PaRCa: tkiesel: tor?
[09:09] <nJess> what if i simply want the key to launch a program?
[09:09] <mebaran> bob2, what do you recommend I do
[09:10] <mebaran> it looks like the right module is loaded
[09:10] <Razor-X> nJess: load xev in a Terminal
[09:10] <Razor-X> press the button
[09:10] <La_PaRCa> root, yeah
[09:10] <Razor-X> and see if anything happens
[09:10] <tkiesel> root: X-Chat -> Privoxy -> Tor I believe..  Maybe.
[09:10] <bob2> mebaran: you know alsa hardware modules don't produce /dev/dsp, right?
[09:10] <nJess> Razor-X, i already know it registers as a keypress
[09:10] <mebaran> bob2, actually no
[09:10] <mebaran> I did not
[09:10] <root> La_PaRCa: tkiesel #tor can help
[09:10] <bob2> mebaran: do you have snd_pcm_oss loaded?
[09:10] <Razor-X> nJess: then you bind it
[09:10] <La_PaRCa> tkiesel, if I use 9050 I am not going thru privoxy... which kinda makes sense
[09:10] <GudyUbuntu> hi, should I be able to play mp3 tracks out of the box? or is there something I need to install?
[09:10] <Razor-X> you can use your terminal to bind it, your shell, whatever
[09:11] <mebaran> bob2, yep, according to lsmod it's there
[09:11] <tkiesel> La_PaRCa: Ahh. Interesting.  Hmm.
[09:11] <Razor-X> I believe screen can bind it too
[09:11] <GammaRay> do any gtk1 apps use fontconfig?
[09:11] <ToRTuReD_X> guys
[09:11] <Razor-X> !tell GudyUbuntu about restrictedformats
[09:11] <bob2> GudyUbuntu: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:11] <ToRTuReD_X> cedega just asked for my cvs password
[09:11] <bob2> GudyUbuntu: which is linked from the FAQ
[09:11] <ToRTuReD_X> what is it?
[09:11] <bob2> ToRTuReD_X: #cedega
[09:11] <tkiesel> La_PaRCa: Here's the document I'm checking out. Maybe it has info you can use? http://www.jgmnet.org/torfaq.html
[09:11] <bob2> (hit enter)
[09:11] <Razor-X> ToRTuReD_X: if you're using anonymous, it's probably blang
[09:12] <Computer__Guru> what's the package that builds using pygtk?
[09:12] <mebaran> bob2, so where to next
[09:12] <Computer__Guru> and how does it compare to boa?
[09:12] <bob2> your question is wrong, but python2.4-gtk2
[09:12] <mebaran> I also have snd_ac97_codec
[09:13] <bob2> mebaran: good luck
[09:13] <mebaran> bob2... arg
[09:13] <Computer__Guru> bob2:  i meant what ide-package
[09:13] <bob2> Computer__Guru: there is no ide
[09:13] <GammaRay> do apps typically directly link against freetype? because ldd /usr/bin | grep freetype gives me nothing.
[09:13] <GammaRay> ldd /usr/bin/* rather
[09:13] <Computer__Guru> bob2:  ill scroll back and see what you said, nevermind
[09:13] <bob2> Computer__Guru: you use glade-2 to produce the xml file, then you have your pygtk program load that
[09:14] <Computer__Guru> huh
[09:14] <Computer__Guru> so its not an ide
[09:14] <bob2> correct
[09:14] <bob2> you seem very IDE-focused for some reason
[09:14] <oatis> how the hell can I exit out of kde so that I can install my nvidia driver? (it requires me to quit kde)
[09:14] <bob2> GammaRay: firefox does
[09:14] <bob2> oatis: no, it doesn't, the instructions are wrong
[09:15] <Computer__Guru> because i *like* ide's.. especially intuitive ones
[09:15] <bob2> oatis: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:15] <bob2> er
[09:15] <bob2> how can you like IDEs in particular?  have you used the visual basic 3 one?
[09:15] <bob2> anyway, find a nice editor and use glade-2
[09:15] <oatis> okay well the installation script is asking me to quit, it will not let me go any further
[09:15] <bob2> oatis: so, read that URL
[09:15] <bob2> it's far easier than wxwindows
[09:15] <frank> oatis: ctrl -alt delete
[09:15] <frank> oatis: its the official drivers?
[09:16] <frank> oatis: you can use synaptic, you know?
[09:16] <LED_scorched> is there a program out there for IMing inside ones LAN?
[09:16] <parca_> Hello. Why do you have people using Tor banned from the channel?
[09:16] <oatis> frank, no I didn't realize that, thanks
[09:16] <IIIEars> bob2 - can i read a connection log in real time by using the "tail -f /path/to/net_file - Which file would i tail?
[09:16] <Computer__Guru> bob2:  i like boa constructor.. can i use that to create apps then use glade-2 to apply pygtk? sorry to ask so many questions.. im treading new ground here.. but i have a couple of apps, i reallyw ant to put together
[09:17] <bob2> IIIEars: no, you can't
[09:17] <bob2> IIIEars: tcpdump is probably what you want
[09:17] <IIIEars> bob2 - thanks :)
[09:17] <bob2> Computer__Guru: no, boa constructor is for wxwidgets
[09:17] <ricosuave17> how can i change gnomes window manager?
[09:17] <bob2> Computer__Guru: if you like the code editor so much, you could of course use that
[09:17] <IIIEars> Ah great - next stop tldp.org. :)
[09:17] <LED_scorched> is there a program out there for IMing inside ones LAN?
[09:18] <zerboxx> ricosuave17: Do you mean to change metacity to openbox?
[09:18] <c0al> LED_scorched, linpopup
[09:18] <bob2> IIIEars: if the data flow isn't too big, "sudo tcpdump -i eth0" in a big terminal is enough to get started
[09:18] <c0al> and it can IM between windows boxes that have winpopup
[09:18] <Computer__Guru> no, i like that it builds the way it does. the properties inspector, the drag and drop for buttons, etc.. what I would like is an ide like that for pygtk.. does such a thing exist?
[09:18] <cafuego> What is intuituve about IDEs anyway?
[09:18] <bob2> Computer__Guru: have you even looked at glade-2 yet?
[09:18] <tkiesel> LED_scorched: I haven't a clue. I'd imagine there's something like that available though. You might try searching for intranet IM programs.  You can run your own Jabber server on your LAN and use that, which might be the best solution.
[09:18] <cafuego> if they were intuitive you wouldn't need all that GUI help shite
[09:18] <bob2> Computer__Guru: go try it instead of complaining about missing features
[09:18] <ricosuave17> yeap yeap zerboxx
[09:18] <bob2> Computer__Guru: it's a full gui designer
[09:19] <zerboxx> ricosuave17: Is that exactly it? or were you planning on using something else?
[09:19] <GammaRay> This is driving me nuts. No matter what I do I just can't get good looking non anti-aliased fonts(the MS ones). On all my other ubuntu boxes all I have to do is dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig and pick the use of the bytecode interperer. But this one box where I installed using the "server/low end" install, I just can't get it working. I've even installed freetype from source in /opt manually uncommenting a #define in freetype and 
[09:19] <ricosuave17> i had downloaded openbox and i didnt know what to do with but i read a tutorial and it said i can change gnomes window manager
[09:20] <zerboxx> ricosuave17: Alright, I just did that yesterday :)
[09:20] <resiak> GammaRay: Truncated at "uncommenting a #define in freetype and"
[09:20] <ricosuave17> is openbox nice?
[09:20] <zerboxx> ricosuave17: I love it so far :D
[09:20] <cafuego> ricosuave17: try it and see
[09:20] <GammaRay> resiak: odd.. I see it all here
[09:21] <resiak> GammaRay: Right... because you see what your client sent, which was above the IRCnet's length limit.
[09:21] <GammaRay> bah
[09:21] <ricosuave17> ok i have openbox downloaded how do i install it over gnome?
[09:21] <zerboxx> ricosuave17: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34239
[09:21] <tkiesel> GammaRay: Is the bytecode interpreter superior to autohinting?
[09:21] <steven> hello
[09:22] <zerboxx> steven: Hi
[09:22] <benplaut> ricosauce17: openbox -replace &
[09:22] <steven> how do i fix that bug in firefox
[09:22] <GammaRay> what I said: I've even installed freetype from source in /opt manually uncommenting a #define in freetype and running export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/lib before running any apps(IE dillo).
[09:22] <zerboxx> steven: "that bug"?
[09:22] <benplaut> steven: which one?
[09:22] <steven> the one that doesnt let u download anything and says theres an xml error
[09:22] <GammaRay> tkiesel: if you disable AA and use the MS fonts certainly
[09:23] <bob2> steven: restart it
[09:23] <zerboxx> ricosuave17: openbox doesn't install over gnome, it runs with gnome.  You use it (or at least I do) instead of metacity, so ubuntu looks the same, but it gives you a few more features
[09:23] <bob2> it's a known bug that it dislikes being upgraded while running
[09:23] <Computer__Guru> this glade thing looks pretty nice
[09:24] <GammaRay> resiak: but ldd dillo does not even list libfreetype[version] .so which is another thing I'm wondering about
[09:24] <steven> o wow thanks
[09:24] <bob2> Computer__Guru: so, yo udesign the whole gui with that, and then write code however you like
[09:25] <jasoncohen> if anyone is having problems with mplayer or mozilla-mplayer where mplayer appears to freeze up, you might find that the reason is due to ALSA. you need to follow this howto - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[09:25] <Slipjack> Does anyone know what the hosts file is (in either Windows or Linux?)
[09:25] <Computer__Guru> bob2:  i can live with that :D
[09:25] <ricosuave17> well it was simple to install
[09:26] <niran> Slipjack, /etc/hosts
[09:26] <GammaRay> Slipjack: man hosts
[09:26] <niran> Slipjack, or do you mean like... what it actually is?
[09:26] <jasoncohen> ubotu mplayer is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[09:26] <Slipjack> Ah, thanks.
[09:26] <ubotu> ...but mplayer is already something else...
[09:26] <Computer__Guru> bob2:  according to the docs, it only does ada, c, and c++
[09:26] <jasoncohen> ubotu mplayer is broken is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[09:26] <ubotu> ...but mplayer is already something else...
[09:26] <Computer__Guru> ah
[09:26] <jasoncohen> ubotu "mplayer is broken" is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[09:26] <ubotu> okay, jasoncohen
[09:26] <Computer__Guru> i have it generate the xml for pygtk
[09:26] <bob2> Computer__Guru: it can only generate code for those languages
[09:26] <Slipjack> niran: No I know what it is. My question was going to lead to WHERE it was. You answer me. Thanks
[09:26] <bob2> Computer__Guru: right
[09:26] <bob2> Computer__Guru: generating gui code is nasty anyway, even for C ;)
[09:26] <Computer__Guru> ya know what would work better...
[09:27] <jasoncohen> anyone know why mozilla-mplayer switches desktops when going fullscreen or when closing out the window
[09:27] <GammaRay> Slipjack: you said *what* (-;
[09:27] <Computer__Guru> do you happen to have a tutorial site?
[09:27] <ricosuave17> and its also funny
[09:27] <GammaRay> Slipjack: and in windows it's in /windows/system32, I think
[09:27] <Computer__Guru> and is there anything that does this for kde/qt??
[09:28] <bob2> Computer__Guru: www.pygtk.org
[09:28] <Computer__Guru> okay, tyvm, bob2
[09:28] <Slipjack> GammaRay: Right, the reason I ask is because I have a Windows app that manages the hosts file. Was thinking of porting to Linux since I'm getting back into it.
[09:29] <tkiesel> Slipjack: in the Windows\system32\drivers directory perhaps.
[09:29] <GammaRay> I refuse to type those horrible backslashs
[09:30] <Slipjack> WindowsXP: windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
[09:30] <niran> Slipjack, unnecessary. the network configuration applet manages the hosts file
[09:30] <GammaRay> so.... backwords
[09:30] <niran> in gnome
[09:30] <tkiesel> GammaRay: lol.  \\\!  Beware!
[09:30] <IIIEars> !alsa
[09:30] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, IIIEars
[09:30] <IIIEars> !esd
[09:30] <ubotu> from memory, esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[09:30] <niran> Slipjack, er... not applet. it's in the system menu
[09:31] <mebaran> i am getting an invalid card number
[09:31] <Slipjack> niran: Understood. My program extends the capabilities of the Hosts file. Adds addresses to it from Firefox bookmarks, allows for blocked hosts, etc.
[09:31] <jino> hi all
[09:31] <niran> Slipjack, oh, i see. carry on then
[09:31] <tkiesel> Hi jino. :)
[09:32] <jino> my xservr doesnt start automaticaly
[09:32] <Slipjack> niran: Okay! :)
[09:32] <jino> how do i configure
[09:32] <niran> Slipjack, i don't see why you'd want to add addresses from firefox bookmarks though... what advantage would that give you?
[09:32] <Slipjack> niran: Skipping remote DNS lookups.
[09:33] <jino> Seaveas, how do i set my xserver to start by itson
[09:33] <GammaRay> jino: installing gdm will probably do it
[09:33] <Slipjack> niran: A lot of the time while I'm waiting for a site to load it's looking up the IP at peak hours.
[09:33] <jino> wats gdm
[09:33] <mebaran> I am getting an invalid card number when Alsa starts up
[09:33] <salil> has anyone ever used phone manager...??
[09:33] <jino> and where can i do it
[09:33] <mebaran> it is a Via Envy 24PT
[09:33] <GammaRay> jino: login screen.
[09:33] <tkiesel> niran: Maybe things like typing in short mnemonics for oft-accessed hosts. (Putting it in the hosts file lets you do this anywhere, not just in one app).
[09:33] <mebaran> what can I do
[09:33] <GammaRay> jino: sudo apt-get install gdm
[09:34] <Slipjack> tkiesel: Yes, another good use for it.
[09:34] <IIIEars> ubotu alsa is also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[09:35] <ubotu> okay, IIIEars
[09:35] <tkiesel> I administrate the webserver at work. I can login to it with 'ssh web' rather than ssh some.ip.number.here  Heehee.
[09:35] <salil> has anyone used phone manager..??
[09:35] <Slipjack> niran: If you want to see what the benefits of my Windows version does I can give you the address. Sadly it's on geocities right now but might move to sourceforge soon.
[09:36] <Slipjack> Ah, yeah. I use the hosts file for all kinds of shortcuts like that. Alongside of ad blocking.
[09:37] <salil> help me.. somebody
[09:38] <GammaRay> salil: fallen and can't get up?
[09:38] <Slipjack> salil: Sorry, never used it.
[09:38] <mebaran> alsa is passing an invalid card number to amixer
[09:38] <mebaran> how do I find out the number of my card
[09:38] <salil> GammaRay: what..??
[09:38] <GammaRay> someone get the paddle... salil has tipped again
[09:38] <ricosuave17> can i polz get taht tutorial page again
[09:38] <salil> GammaRay: what're you talking about?
[09:39] <Slipjack> Hmm...
[09:39] <Razor-X> hmmmm
[09:39] <mebaran> Razor-X, do you have any ideas how to fix my sound
[09:39] <mebaran> this is confusing me
[09:39] <ricosuave17> nvm god bless opera
[09:39] <mebaran> I have all the correct drivers I thought
[09:39] <Razor-X> in ZSH, if I say if [[$TERM = 'dumb'] ] ; then; print yes; fi
[09:39] <GammaRay> salil: it's up to interpretation
[09:39] <Razor-X> why do I get the error zsh: bad pattern: [[dumb ?
[09:39] <mebaran> I have all the modules
[09:39] <salil> GammaRay: you're talking nonsense
[09:39] <mebaran> the correct ones are loaded
[09:40] <GammaRay> salil: and that's one
[09:40] <salil> GammaRay: i just need some help. with a little something
[09:40] <mebaran> but alsa does not set it up
[09:40] <Octane> I went ahead and built three packages on my own (using apt-build) yet apt-get keeps whining about me needing to upgrade it, how do i add these packages to an ignore list?
[09:40] <mebaran> any ideas, or anyone successfully running a VIA Envy 24PT
[09:40] <mebaran> the Ubuntu device managers picks it up
[09:40] <Slipjack> salil: He's just messing with you. He basically means he's never used it either.
[09:40] <GammaRay> salil: so that means you are upright and stable, right?
[09:40] <salil> Slipjack: then its alright
[09:41] <tkiesel> mebaran: I wish I could help. I haven't had any problems with Ubuntu detecting my card.
[09:41] <Razor-X> mebaran: what's the sound problem?
[09:41] <dinesh> hi
[09:41] <mebaran> Razor-X, no /dev/dsp
[09:41] <tkiesel> mebaran: Now.. are you getting sound out of ESD?
[09:41] <mebaran> I dont have /dev/dsp
[09:41] <mebaran> that is the problem
[09:41] <dinesh> am trying to install real player on hoary...
[09:41] <mebaran> the modules load
[09:41] <mebaran> but udev isnt making the correct device
[09:41] <dinesh> no luck so far...
[09:41] <dinesh> can someone pls help
[09:41] <mebaran> I think I will reinstall
[09:41] <cute_bettong> so um is breezy ready for use?
[09:41] <mebaran> Fedora Core worked ....
[09:42] <cute_bettong> yet
[09:42] <GammaRay> mebaran: if you make it manually does it work?
[09:42] <Slipjack> Anyone have a list of commands for IRC? I seem to have forgotten them all. Such as /nick
[09:42] <mebaran> GammaRay, I've never made a sound device
[09:42] <mebaran> normally alsa does all the work
[09:42] <cute_bettong> brb
[09:42] <Goshawk> Slipjack, do /help
[09:42] <Slipjack> I'll be a son of a.... thanks
[09:42] <tkiesel> cute_bettong: Unless you're really really needing to be on the cutting edge, and are willing to put up with bugs and problems that need fixing, I'd say wait a lil bit on Breezy.
[09:43] <cute_bettong> kk thanx
[09:43] <mebaran> I'm going to dll the real ubuntu
[09:43] <mebaran> Kubuntu isnt as well organized
[09:43] <mebaran> yet ....
[09:43] <GammaRay> mebaran: see Documentation/devices.txt in the linux source
[09:43] <GammaRay> mebaran: and man mknod
[09:43] <cute_bettong> <---= ChurcH_of_FoamY ^_^
[09:44] <mebaran> GammaRay, what is the major and minor for onboard sound?
[09:44] <Slipjack> Ah that's right.
[09:44] <mebaran> I now how to make a device
[09:45] <mebaran> maybe I shoudl go to the BSD
[09:45] <ricosuave17> does any one how i could have openbox but not have .openbox in my config files?
[09:45] <Slipjack> I feel bad. I haven't used IRC since 1997. I haven't used Linux for over a year since yesterday (a lot of good that Linux+ certification did me).
[09:45] <IIIEars> WB thor.
[09:46] <nJess> Slipjack, welcome back
[09:46] <nJess> :D
[09:46] <ModestCargo> Hey all.
[09:46] <Slipjack> nJess Thanks! Hah. Sorry I sold out to Microsoft. I swear I don't have Windows installed this time.
[09:46] <ModestCargo> Does ubuntu come with the 2.6 kernel?
[09:46] <Slipjack> Yeah.
[09:46] <ModestCargo> cooo.
[09:47] <ModestCargo> cool*
[09:47] <Slipjack> 2.6.10 I think?
[09:47] <nJess> Slipjack, thats not a problem, some times you NEED windows
[09:47] <nJess> and there ARE things it is better for
[09:47] <mebaran> nJess, like when :p
[09:47] <Slipjack> nJess: Gaming...
[09:47] <Slipjack> And that's about it.
[09:47] <Madpilot> getting viruses
[09:47] <ModestCargo> okay, ive been a slack user for a while now...
[09:47] <ModestCargo> whats the debian system like for updating as opposed to tgz?
[09:47] <nJess> Madpilot, that is a myth actually
[09:47] <ModestCargo> debian/ubuntu *
[09:48] <GammaRay> mebaran:  char 14 3 works here
[09:48] <nJess> i have a windows box, on the net, no viruses, ever
[09:48] <nJess> ModestCargo, .deb packages
[09:48] <nJess> think rpm, but better
[09:48] <ModestCargo> ok..
[09:48] <ModestCargo> cool..
[09:48] <Slipjack> ModestCargo: It's incredible so far. Been using it for only a day but man... the package manager is the best there is.
[09:48] <Madpilot> nJess: windows virii are mythical? ;)  actually, I went 5+ yrs with no virii myself w/ 98 & XP
[09:48] <ModestCargo> i think i might switch hehe but the thing is,
[09:48] <Slipjack> I will never type ./config, make, make install -- or so it seems.
[09:48] <ModestCargo> ah never mind haha
[09:48] <GammaRay> mebaran: I think it should be the same for all
[09:49] <nJess> Madpilot, the myth is that windows WILL get a virus
[09:49] <mebaran> GammaRay, worth a shot
[09:49] <ModestCargo> see yall later
[09:49] <Slipjack> ModestCargo: The install process took me 32 minutes for Ubuntu. Defintely try it.
[09:49] <Slipjack> Blah.
[09:49] <Slipjack> Back to the subject. I'm more concerned about spyware with Windows.
[09:49] <cute_bettong> has a windows partition for one game and it's got a virus >.<
[09:50] <Slipjack> Not so much viruses. AdAware has scanned 150 times since I last installed it and found 12,000 items. Not good.
[09:50] <IIIEars> off-topic - windows functional with only 2 two services running. - slashdot today
[09:51] <thoreauputic> 12,000 items ? OMG :(
[09:51] <Slipjack> Yeah, 12,000. Well, in fairness I was using IE at the time. When I installed Firefox I barely needed AdAware.
[09:51] <cute_bettong> it's m$ what do you want
[09:52] <Slipjack> But still. Spyware was a problem even WITH Firefox.
[09:52] <nJess> Slipjack, the most amusing thing, i think, is people hating microsoft because they have alot of money and market share
[09:52] <nJess> jealousy monster :P
[09:52] <IIIEars> there is really no point in a lot of security software for windows. most is circumvented using buffer overruns.
[09:53] <cute_bettong> in my win install i broke the file protection system for the os then removed all the spyware ie,internet explorer,windows messenger, and port 80 connectivity and win media player
[09:53] <thoreauputic> Slipjack: the thing that amazes me utterly is that people keep buying MS stuff - it's like a form of mental illness to keep on buying products that manifestly are terrible
[09:53] <Slipjack> nJess: That bothers me to an extent. More of what they did to make that money, than that they actually have it.
[09:53] <nJess> thoreauputic, i don't really see a problem with windows, i mean, i keep my system protected
[09:53] <IIIEars> If they are aiming at your system they are going to hit it.
[09:53] <Madpilot> also on the Win front: so much for MS's latest anti-piracy attempt: http://www.boingboing.net/2005/07/28/microsoft_genuine_ad.html
[09:53] <nJess> at this time, i only have one computer with windows
[09:54] <cute_bettong> it's just not worth paying for crappy proggraming
[09:54] <GammaRay> IIIEars: that's assuming you use windows as a server.
[09:54] <bob2> as above, software copyrithg infringement is off-topic
[09:54] <Slipjack> thoreauputic: Definitely. I'll admit it, I've never bought an MS product other than my XBOX. All versions of Windows I've ever had were stolen. The recent blocking of software updates from invalid product keys forced my return to Linux.
[09:54] <cute_bettong> although if ubuntu ever started charging a fee i would pay for it ^_^
[09:54] <thoreauputic> nJess: the problem is thet this company's incompetence has infested the net with viruses and malware
[09:54] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: we've been installing BSD/KDE desktops at work, and when I tell co-workers that it acts differently because it's not Windows, they look at me like I've grown a second head...
[09:55] <Madpilot> computer = Windows, for most ppl...
[09:55] <cute_bettong> that and they can't make decent apps and os's that don't crash and don't cost a bundle
[09:55] <eno> can I change a setting so that you have to supply root password to shut down?
[09:55] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: i know - the ignorance is staggering: and MS keeps it going with "special deals" for schools etc
[09:56] <bob2> eno: probably, but why bother?
[09:56] <Slipjack> cute_bettong: Mostly because they don't care. They know people will buy. And they do.
[09:56] <bob2> eno: anyone in front of the machine could just hit the power button
[09:56] <cute_bettong> i know isen't it sad
[09:56] <eno> so my girlfriend wont turn my computer off :P
[09:56] <Madpilot> special deals for libraries, in the case of my work...
[09:56] <Slipjack> Very.
[09:56] <IIIEars> nah - windows is just too popular for it's own good. a single product with 90% of consumers using it.  - the money for hackers virii writers is there.
[09:57] <GammaRay> IIIEars: virii.. no such word :-P
[09:57] <Slipjack> IMO, the growth of Linux is at a sharp turning point right now. Pirated copies of Windows can no longer be updated via Windows Update or the KB.
[09:57] <nJess> true, the reason windows has had so many bugs found in it is the market penetration
[09:57] <IIIEars> GammaRay - you are right too much time spent on the 'net. netspeak
[09:58] <Slipjack> Anyone with a pirated copy of Windows, who feels anything like we do about paying for MS products, will turn to an alternative OS.
[09:58] <shawarma> GammaRay: What would you say instead?
[09:58] <cute_bettong> linux has bugs too but there fixed really really quickly cause of it's open source nature
[09:58] <cute_bettong> and to me thats awsome
[09:58] <Slipjack> cute_bettong: Long live open source.
[09:58] <Madpilot> Slipjack: that's exactly why I'm here on #ubuntu... ;)
[09:58] <GammaRay> shawarma: viruses.. the plural of virus
[09:58] <cute_bettong> there are no questions has to whats in the code
[09:58] <thoreauputic> nJess: i've heard that put forward often, but it ignores the inherent design and policy flaws that make the situation even worse
[09:58] <kamstrup> GammaRay: vira
[09:59] <cute_bettong> and opensource rocks
[09:59] <cute_bettong> ^_^
[09:59] <kamstrup> GammaRay: -- would be the correct
[09:59] <IIIEars> slipjack - the recent M$ online validator (java app) was cracked in less than 24 hours.
[09:59] <GammaRay> kamstrup: an old girlfriend?
[09:59] <Slipjack> Madpilot: Me too. Just installed ubuntu today. Haven't used Linux in over a year. First time since 1998 where I didn't have a dual boot with Windows on my main system.
[09:59] <kamstrup> GammaRay: ?
[09:59] <nJess> thoreauputic, i know, but if you try, you can keep a windows box secure
[09:59] <nJess> and i do like windows for alot of things
[09:59] <shawarma> GammaRay: The thing is that there is no latin text available anywhere that uses the word vius in plural, so noone really knows how it's conjugated.. It could be vira og viri.. Where the extra 'i' comes from in h4x0r-speak, I don't know.
[09:59] <nJess> hardware support
[09:59] <nJess> and games
[09:59] <cute_bettong> yea you have to try really really hard
[09:59] <cute_bettong> like not connect it to the internet
[10:00] <Slipjack> IIIEars: Really? Ah well. I don't know how long it will suffice. If Microsoft will fix anything it'll be that. Besides, it's one more reason to make a switch to an alternate os.
[10:00] <shawarma> GammaRay: It's viruses in English? Hmm.. Didn't know that.
[10:00] <kamstrup> shawarma: are you sure about that? My parents in law are doctors and they say vira
[10:00] <cute_bettong> cause even if you think you got your windows box secure theres a 15 year old out there that can show you other wize
[10:00] <Madpilot> when this was an XP box, securing it took a CD full of programs and about six hours. With Ubuntu, we did *nothing*...
[10:00] <enyc_> 'heh.. ubuntu (sensibly) doesnt open any listening sockets on the network 'by default'...
[10:00] <nJess> cute_bettong, i used to be that 15 year old
[10:00] <nJess> i know a thing or two about securing windows
[10:00] <cute_bettong> lol thats awsome
[10:00] <enyc_> which means a whole class of attacks are 'not applicable' out-of-thebox
[10:01] <shawarma> kamstrup: That's the most common way, yes, but in fact, there's no way to know what a native latin speaker would have said it, as there is no written documentation for any plural forms of the word.
[10:01] <Slipjack> Madpilot: My only security right now other than what came with Ubuntu is my router's firewall.
[10:01] <GammaRay> kamstrup,shawarma: http://dictionary.reference.com/help/faq/language/v/virus.html
[10:01] <Slipjack> Where in Windows I had a full suite of stuff like you.
[10:01] <thoreauputic> nJess: of course, but you have to turn somersaults to do it - like knowing about spybot and adaware, and using an antivirus (and understanding to update it) users shouldn't need to do this. Look at OS-X
[10:01] <IIIEars> Madpilot - "Disk Imaging" to an external USB drive. - much less than an hour even for USB 1
[10:01] <Madpilot> Slipjack: yeah, me too, until I installed a LAMP setup on this machine and started Firestarter up...
[10:01] <kamstrup> shawarma: and there are no "native" latin speakers. Latin is artificial.
[10:02] <Madpilot> IIIEars: assuming you've set up everything you're imaging first...
[10:02] <kamstrup> shawarma: I know about the Vatican, but hey ;-P
[10:02] <cute_bettong> i am a latin speaker
[10:02] <enyc_> well its' a long sotry.. security against _what_ in _what_ environment
[10:02] <shawarma> kamstrup: Latin was spoken in ancient Rome.
[10:02] <nJess> thoreauputic, the point is, it is easy to use, and it CAN be made secure
[10:02] <shawarma> kamstrup: That's why I said "would have said it".
[10:02] <nJess> thats all that really matters
[10:02] <kamstrup> shawarma: Yes, but was still a "made up" language
[10:02] <enyc_> nb: lots of ubuntu users ahrdly add anything thats not from an ubuntu-provided signed package...
[10:02] <Slipjack> IIIEars: And assuming you don't use that drive for something else because, really, how often do you reload everything? Although, we are talking about Windows here. :)
[10:02] <cute_bettong> mica mica parva stella quanam systaem bella
[10:03] <kamstrup> shawarma: Perhaps there was only one known virus in ancient rome :D
[10:03] <cute_bettong> latin for twinkle twinkle little star
[10:03] <ilba7r> any one know of easy to use front end for latex other than emacs, lyx and kile
[10:03] <enyc_> no idea
[10:03] <shawarma> kamstrup: What makes you say it was artificial?
[10:03] <thoreauputic> nJess: right, and I can drive an old jalopy safely if I know a lot about car mechanics and engines and brakes - but I shouldn't need that level of knowledge to drive a car
[10:03] <cute_bettong> and it not veni vidi vichi it's weni wedi wichi
[10:04] <cute_bettong> the v is a miss pronounciation of the classic phrase
[10:04] <nJess> thoreauputic, so? if that car has an 8 track player...and you have 8 track tapes
[10:04] <thoreauputic> hahah
[10:04] <nJess> thoreauputic, see what i mean?
[10:05] <kamstrup> shawarma: Isn't latin a "constructed" language? Artificial was just the direct translation from the Danish term for such languages...
[10:05] <nJess> you can put that player in a BMW
[10:05] <nJess> but
[10:05] <nJess> its easier to drive the pos
[10:05] <cute_bettong> i still have a lazer disk player
[10:05] <nJess> like windows, and games
[10:05] <cute_bettong> you guys know what that is right?
[10:05] <Slipjack> Vaguely.
[10:05] <cute_bettong> a cd the size of a record
[10:05] <Madpilot> yeah
[10:05] <cute_bettong> an old record like the 72rpm ones >.<
[10:06] <cute_bettong> i thought it was gonna be big tech when i bought it
[10:06] <cute_bettong> and boy was i wrong >.<
[10:06] <Madpilot> hey, they're selling vinyl again at my local record store... ;)
[10:06] <Slipjack> Hah. My parents knew it wouldn't be.
[10:06] <cute_bettong> awsome
[10:07] <cute_bettong> i have like 4 movies for the damn thing
[10:07] <Slipjack> They're selling vinyl at a few stores around here too. Weirdest thing I ever saw.
[10:07] <cute_bettong> and it's retarded
[10:07] <IIIEars> Seveas - Have you noticed a room full of content and happy Ubuntu Linux users? - doesn't often happen in #windows -  wide grin
[10:07] <Slipjack> I haven't seen vinyls in a store since I was a kid.
[10:07] <nJess> Slipjack, clicks and pops are the best
[10:07] <Madpilot> not just old records, either. newish stuff like Radiohead & the Chili Peppers...
[10:07] <nJess> and i mean that seriously
[10:07] <cute_bettong> yes they are the make things sound more "real"
[10:07] <Slipjack> nJess: And static!
[10:07] <cute_bettong> holy crap thats awsome new bands on vynal?
[10:07] <cute_bettong> wow
[10:08] <Slipjack> Yeah, new stuff.
[10:08] <nJess> i have some original aerosmith records on vinyl
[10:08] <Madpilot> just rip to the lowest qualilty mp3 you can, and play it over cheap PC speakers, there's all the pop, crackle & static you want!
[10:08] <nJess> Madpilot, not the same dude, not the same at all
[10:08] <Slipjack> I saw Nirvana vinyl. Almost bought it, but the only record players I have access to are at my parents house.
[10:08] <nJess> analog sound is just....
[10:08] <spanglesontoast> how do I force a package to install using dpkg?
[10:09] <IIIEars> Madpilot - poking knitting needles through the speaker cone and raising the volume is optional. - lol
[10:09] <Madpilot> hey, an actual on-topic thing - is that allowed?
[10:09] <IIIEars> heh
[10:09] <ToRTuReD_X> what's the command to open cedega?
[10:09] <cute_bettong> IIIEars why would you want to poke your speakers with knitting neddles? woulden't that ruin them?
[10:09] <Slipjack> This is all off-topic. It's insanity, just insanity.
[10:10] <CapSoft}Noob> lo folks
[10:10] <Slipjack> 'lo
[10:10] <Madpilot> hi
[10:10] <CapSoft}Noob> i have a problem... i changed something in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:10] <CapSoft}Noob> and no it does not boot anymore
[10:10] <Slipjack> Change it back?
[10:10] <CapSoft}Noob> it stops at : configuring network interfaces...
[10:10] <CapSoft}Noob> how?
[10:10] <CapSoft}Noob> i can't access ubuntu anymore
[10:10] <Slipjack> Sorry, I was being a smartass... anyone?
[10:11] <thoreauputic> Slipjack: well, for discussion of Ubuntu we can set up #ubuntu-ontopic  ;-)
[10:11] <IIIEars> heh
[10:11] <CapSoft}Noob> even the discoverymode stops at that line
[10:11] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: :) :)
[10:11] <slept> spanglesontoast, dpkg --help
[10:11] <nJess> CapSoft}Noob, just wait
[10:11] <nJess> it will eventually boot
[10:11] <Slipjack> thoreaputic: That would be the BEST! I'd be here all day every day.
[10:11] <CapSoft}Noob> i waited for 15 minutes... nJess
[10:11] <CapSoft}Noob> i think i made an eternal loop
[10:11] <Madpilot> there really is an "ubuntu-offtopic" chan, y'know
[10:11] <CapSoft}Noob> i added 2 lines in that file
[10:11] <nJess> hummmm
[10:11] <Slipjack> Yeah... but there should be a middle ground.
[10:12] <nJess> boot the live cd
[10:12] <CapSoft}Noob> one was : up mii-tool --force=10baseT-FD
[10:12] <nJess> and un-do what you did
[10:12] <slept> CapSoft}Noob, you can abort it with 'ctrl  + c'
[10:12] <CapSoft}Noob> and then up ifup --force eth0
[10:12] <S_G> hi can someone help me?
[10:12] <S_G>  in what package the modconf command is in
[10:12] <CapSoft}Noob> can i abort something in the boot sequence??
[10:12] <spanglesontoast> sudo dpkg -i overwrite glibc_2.3.5-9_i386.deb doesn't work
[10:12] <CapSoft}Noob> with simpel cltr + c ?
[10:12] <thoreauputic> Slipjack: we need a #ubuntu-rant :D
[10:12] <Madpilot> CapSoft}Noob: hit ESC to get into GRUB
[10:12] <CapSoft}Noob> but grub is good
[10:12] <S_G> bla bla bla/pppoeconf bash  : modconf : command not found in line 401
[10:13] <Madpilot> right when the comp is loading
[10:13] <S_G> someone can help me?
[10:13] <Madpilot> there's a safe-boot whatever in GRUB
[10:13] <Slipjack> There should be #ubuntu-wayofftopic, #ubuntu-offtopic, #ubuntu-sortaontopic, and #ubuntu. And I like the #ubuntu-rant idea.
[10:13] <CapSoft}Noob> ok
[10:13] <CapSoft}Noob> Madpilot a recovery mode
[10:13] <CapSoft}Noob> 've been there
[10:13] <CapSoft}Noob> tried that
[10:13] <S_G> i need to know what package i need to install for modconf
[10:13] <CapSoft}Noob> stops at the same line
[10:13] <slept> S_G, in debian, you have to compile it yourself
[10:13] <S_G> ?
[10:13] <Madpilot> yeah, recovery mode. sorry...
[10:14] <S_G> slept : how do i do can you help me plz
[10:14] <S_G> ?
[10:14] <CapSoft}Noob> but some1 said i can abort it while booting?
[10:14] <kamstrup> Slipjack: What about #ubuntu-/dev/null
[10:14] <CapSoft}Noob> by pressing ctrl+ c ?
[10:14] <Slipjack> kamstrup: That would be where the stoners hang out, no doubt.
[10:14] <S_G> slept?
[10:14] <thoreauputic> Slipjack: automatic re-direct for all mirc users to #ubuntu-troll  (joking)
[10:14] <Slipjack> Heh.
[10:15] <S_G> im noob at linux so what command i need to run to compile it?
[10:15] <S_G> slept^
[10:15] <S_G> ?
[10:15] <CapSoft}Noob> S_G ./configure
[10:15] <CapSoft}Noob> make
[10:15] <CapSoft}Noob> make install
[10:15] <CapSoft}Noob> i guess...
[10:15] <S_G> ./configure --> it doesnt work
[10:15] <GammaRay> it's a safe bet to read the INSTALL file
[10:15] <S_G> command not found ^
[10:15] <Slipjack> thoreauputic: automatic re-dreict for all mirc users to #ubuntu-non-hertero instead.
[10:16] <Slipjack> hetero, rather.
[10:16] <slept> S_G, I think you can apt-get install -d or sth like that I did it once , or you can use dpkg-buildpackage I'm not sure whichone I used
[10:16] <IIIEars> ./configure && make && make install (holding breath is optional for a one line command.)
[10:16] <CapSoft}Noob> but guys is it true that i can abort something from booting by pressing ctrl+c ?
[10:16] <nJess> Slipjack, i take offense to that
[10:16] <spanglesontoast> how do I force something to install
[10:16] <slept> S_G, what do you need modconf for ?
[10:16] <spanglesontoast> sudo dpkg -i overwrite glibc_2.3.5-9_i386.deb
[10:16] <spanglesontoast> don't work
[10:16] <S_G> i need it to pppoeconf
[10:16] <CapSoft}Noob> spanglesontoast give in the right root password
[10:16] <Slipjack> nJess: Sorry if you're gay. Or sorry if you're a mirc user. Not sure how to respond to that.
[10:16] <CapSoft}Noob> :P
[10:16] <thoreauputic> CapSoft}Noob: some things, like the time sync (ntpdate)
[10:17] <spanglesontoast> there is no root
[10:17] <spanglesontoast> dummy
[10:17] <spanglesontoast> theres sudo
[10:17] <CapSoft}Noob> thoreauputic and the network configurating?
[10:17] <nJess> Slipjack, i am not-hetero, do not dare compare me to an mirc user
[10:17] <nJess> >_<
[10:17] <thoreauputic> CapSoft}Noob: I guess so, if you know the right moment
[10:17] <AMCDeathKnight> Hey guys; my sound doesnt work in firefox
[10:17] <S_G> slept or someone (i need it for pppoeconf )
[10:17] <S_G> slept or someone (i need it for pppoeconf )
[10:17] <AMCDeathKnight> if im watching a movie or playing music it is fine
[10:17] <AMCDeathKnight> yet it crackles in firefox
[10:17] <Slipjack> nJess; Okay, heh. Maybe I should go to #ubuntu-foot-in-mouth
[10:17] <AMCDeathKnight> how can i fix this
[10:18] <nJess> Slipjack, sounds good
[10:18] <CapSoft}Noob> does the live cd provide a command line so i can access my filesystem????
[10:18] <GammaRay> nJess: foot fettish?
[10:18] <IIIEars> AMCDeathknight ubotu has some general info on !alsa
[10:18] <nJess> hmmm
[10:18] <nJess> hey Slipjack does pansexual count as non-hetero?
[10:18] <AMCDeathKnight> whats alsa?
[10:18] <thoreauputic> CapSoft}Noob: of course
[10:19] <Slipjack> Sex with pans?
[10:19] <CapSoft}Noob> AMCDeathKnight sound driver i think
[10:19] <slept> S_G , pppoe does not depend on modconf , why do you think you need modconf ?
[10:19] <Slipjack> What is that?
[10:19] <CapSoft}Noob> thanks thoreauputic i will try
[10:19] <CapSoft}Noob> brb
[10:19] <CapSoft}Noob> and then i use x-chat
[10:19] <CapSoft}Noob> instead of mirc
[10:19] <CapSoft}Noob> ;)
[10:19] <nJess> CapSoft}Noob, they have xchat for windows
[10:19] <Madpilot> !conduct
[10:19] <ubotu> somebody said conduct was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[10:19] <nJess> www.silverex.org
[10:19] <GammaRay> Slipjack: try across
[10:19] <GammaRay> like pan-american
[10:20] <S_G> slept : bla/bla/bla/pppoeconf bash  : modconf : command not found in line 401
[10:20] <Slipjack> Never heard of pan-anything.
[10:20] <nJess> Slipjack, pansexual means you are not bisexual, or homosexual, you simply are attracted to people, gender aside
[10:20] <S_G> so you know in which pakage can i find the modconf command ?
[10:20] <S_G> so you know in which pakage can i find the modconf command ?
[10:20] <nJess> Slipjack, its also been described as "f
[10:20] <thoreauputic> pan does not mean "across" - more like "all"
[10:20] <bachler> pan pizza
[10:20] <Madpilot> S_G: www.google.com
[10:20] <nJess> Slipjack, its also been described as "f**k anything that walks*
[10:20] <bob2> S_G: please stop being annoying
[10:21] <bob2> S_G: you don't need modconf on ubuntu, and it doesn't work, either
[10:21] <S_G> it's not me it's my mirc im sorry
[10:21] <AMCDeathKnight> Is there away I can simply play a flash (swf) file without using a broswer?
[10:21] <Slipjack> nJess: I thought that was bisexual.
[10:21] <bob2> S_G: then use a less broken client
[10:21] <S_G> bob2 so you know what i can do?
[10:21] <Slipjack> nJess: Unless of course a hermaphrodite is neither male nor female.
[10:21] <nJess> Slipjack, like i said, im not attracted to both genders, im attracted to people, and their gender doesn't matter to me
[10:21] <GammaRay> thoreauputic: across means the whole of something, from one side to another
[10:22] <Slipjack> nJess: Still confused. Still sounds like bisexual to me, in which it gender doesn't matter either.
[10:22] <thoreauputic> GammaRay: well, #semantics I guess ;)
[10:22] <Madpilot> Slipjack: - and everyone else - #ubuntu-offtopic, if you must keep going...
[10:22] <nJess> Slipjack, thats basicly the only difference
[10:23] <thoreauputic> GammaRay: I see your point :)
[10:23] <Slipjack> All right. I'll drop it.
[10:23] <S_G> bob2
[10:23] <S_G> in debian modconf command is used?
[10:23] <slept> S_G , did you look in the manpage  ?
[10:23] <bob2> S_G: you don't need modconf
[10:23] <S_G> hmm nope
[10:24] <S_G> i need it to run the pppoeconf
[10:24] <S_G> to configure my Network Card
[10:24] <bob2> no
[10:24] <bob2> does the NIC work?
[10:24] <S_G> no
[10:24] <S_G> i think
[10:25] <bob2> then fix that
[10:25] <ToRTuReD_X> bob
[10:25] <bachler> S_G: my mother could configure the network in ubutnu...
[10:25] <S_G> how?
[10:25] <ToRTuReD_X> i'm still stuck with installing cedega
[10:25] <bob2> ToRTuReD_X: so, you gave transgaming money
[10:25] <bob2> ToRTuReD_X: go get support from them
[10:26] <bob2> ToRTuReD_X: www.transgaming.com
[10:26] <S_G> i've got a Network card that needed to be detected automatcly
[10:26] <bob2> S_G: is it ISA?
[10:26] <S_G> no
[10:26] <S_G> Realtek
[10:26] <bob2> go realtek
[10:26] <S_G> RTL8139D
[10:26] <cafuego> ickyicky
[10:26] <cafuego> does 8139cp work?
[10:26] <S_G> PCI Fast Ethernet
[10:26] <S_G> nope
[10:26] <S_G> yes
[10:26] <S_G> yes
[10:26] <cafuego> or have they made *another* version?
[10:26] <S_G> it work
[10:26] <S_G> but
[10:27] <S_G> the network don't
[10:27] <S_G> after i do it and dhcpcd
[10:27] <thoreauputic> S_G: *please* stop using the enter key as punctuation
[10:27] <S_G> sorry
[10:27] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: beat me to it...
[10:27] <thoreauputic> it's incredibly irritating
[10:27] <cafuego> S_G: dhcpcd is a dhcp *server* not a dhcp client.
[10:28] <cafuego> S_G: try 'dhclient eth0'
[10:28] <ToRTuReD_X> bob2 - cedega cvs - ie winex
[10:28] <bob2> ToRTuReD_X: then #cedega
[10:28] <S_G> cafuego : and then what?
[10:28] <ToRTuReD_X> dammit
[10:28] <ToRTuReD_X> i've asked in there
[10:28] <ToRTuReD_X> no response
[10:28] <ToRTuReD_X> :/
[10:28] <^johns^> dhcpcd is a client
[10:28] <jowi> hi all
[10:28] <^johns^> dhcpd is a server
[10:28] <S_G> what is dhcpcd ?
[10:29] <IIIEars> dynamic host control protocol
[10:29] <^johns^> dhcp client deamon I guess
[10:29] <znh> Hi folks
[10:29] <IIIEars> assigns clients addresses
[10:29] <jowi> hello znh
[10:30] <znh> I just reinstalled ubuntu again - because it messed up due I installed kde-devel, everything seems to be OK now, except the sources.list - I'm getting some 'stat' errors while doing a apt-get update, and installing packages (and i'm using the default created sources.list)
[10:30] <lesshaste> what is the kernel version in hoary?
[10:30] <nJess> it depends
[10:30] <nJess> i run..uhhh
[10:30] <lesshaste> ok... tell me more :)
[10:30] <nJess> Sysinfo: [AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ (800 MHz)]  | [440 MB]  | [Linux (2.6.10-5-k7)]  | [load: 0.05 (5 min)]  | [0d 1h 38m up] 
[10:30] <nJess> that one
[10:30] <nJess> i run 2.6.10-6-k7
[10:30] <lesshaste> nJess, that's me. My 3000+ is arriving today
[10:31] <nJess> ah
[10:31] <nJess> well
[10:31] <cafuego> throttling makes that seem a tad underwhelming :-)
[10:31] <nJess> is it a desktop or a laptop?
[10:31] <lesshaste> so how did you choose, where did you get it from?
[10:31] <lesshaste> desktop
[10:31] <nJess> ah
[10:31] <lesshaste> nJess, actually..I am building it from parts
[10:31] <nJess> mine is a laptop
[10:31] <nJess> so it just came this way
[10:31] <znh> dabaR: welcome back, and good morning :)
[10:31] <nJess> i see
[10:31] <Razor-X> wow, I have cheap hacks ;)
[10:31] <slept> S_G,  just insert to /etc/network/interfaces :  auto eth0 ,(new line), iface eth0 inet dhcp maybe you have to change eth0
[10:31] <nJess> lesshaste, from what i have seen in the 64bit ubuntu, it is nice
[10:31] <Razor-X> oh well, I have solidified my use of screen in my laziness in my .zshrc
[10:31] <dabaR> ok.
[10:31] <lesshaste> nJess, you mean that when you install hoary 64 that is the default kernel?
[10:31] <nJess> but my wireless won't work in 64bit, so i don't use it
[10:31] <nJess> no
[10:32] <nJess> im not using hoary 64
[10:32] <lesshaste> ah
[10:32] <nJess> i can't get my networking to run on hoary
[10:32] <znh> anyways, I'd like to use KDE on hoary, is there some meta package that install's everything?
[10:32] <nJess> no 64bit hardware drivers
[10:32] <itay> hi! I am trying to compile cpp file with some libraries, but I get this error: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXxf86vm", what can I do?
[10:32] <lesshaste> nJess, that doesn't sound good
[10:32] <itay> libxext-dev libxext6 are already installed
[10:32] <Razor-X> znh: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:32] <Razor-X> if i'm not mistaken
[10:32] <znh> Razor-X: won't that conflict that i'm using hoary?
[10:32] <lesshaste> nJess, but in general hoary provides 2.6.10 then?
[10:32] <Razor-X> znh: not at all
[10:32] <znh> Razor-X: sweet
[10:32] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: you are indeed not mistaken !
[10:32] <Razor-X> it'll add KDE to your list of WMs
[10:33] <thoreauputic> ;)
[10:33] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: cool
[10:33] <lesshaste> nJess, are there updated kernels already packaged?
[10:33] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: you want to hear about my cheap .zshrc fix? ;)
[10:33] <nJess> lesshaste, pm me
[10:33] <znh> oh it's ONLY 344 MB :P
[10:33] <Razor-X> znh: it's a whole 'nother WM
[10:33] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: I'm not sure - is it bigger than a bread box?
[10:33] <thoreauputic> heheh
[10:33] <znh> after unpacking 999 MB is used - lol, I bet they made that number like that
[10:33] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: ;)
[10:33] <Razor-X> it's a real cheap fix to see whether i'm in a zsh subshel
[10:33] <znh> Razor-X: yea I know, i'm just happy :D
[10:34] <Razor-X> s/subshel/subshell/
[10:34] <itay> I got this error while trying to compile: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext
[10:34] <Razor-X> only that my emacs shell, ansi-term, and terminal-emulator are sub-sub-children
[10:34] <znh> anyways - is the default sources.list recommended?
[10:34] <Razor-X> and they all return different $TERM s ;)
[10:34] <parabolize> znh: whole 'nother desktop environment!
[10:34] <lesshaste> nJess, I am attempting to :)
[10:34] <Razor-X> znh: didja add universe and multiverse?
[10:34] <itay> what should I install? libxext-dev and libxext6 are installed.
[10:35] <znh> Razor-X: no not yet.. I got kinda mad/scared - after I installed kde-devel everything got messed up..
[10:35] <GammaRay> hmm odd thing to happen
[10:36] <Razor-X> znh: because you didn't have the kde libs? ;)
[10:36] <Razor-X> multiverse and universe are pretty safe, and you can't do much without them
[10:36] <znh> Razor-X: yes, I needed the kde-libs that we're located in the kde-devel package
[10:36] <znh> *needed = required
[10:37] <GammaRay> now if only they didn't have ssl disabled on links2.. took me days to figure out which links to use and how to fix that.
[10:37] <Razor-X> i've found out something
[10:37] <Razor-X> every GNU Emacs user should use screen below emacs
[10:37] <meeekael> okay, i am looking for a quick fix way to get 6 channel sound in ubuntu 5.04...i've tried using ALSA to change the "make line in surroun...mic center" settings but that seems to do nothing, other than make my center speaker click when i switch it on and off, thanks
[10:37] <Razor-X> because screen is just fscking awesome, even if emacs does it's function
[10:37] <Razor-X> like the fact that Eterm displays some characters whacky
[10:37] <znh> Razor-X: I agree with you
[10:37] <Razor-X> screen totally fixes that
[10:37] <dabaR> Razor-X: whats your wm?
[10:38] <Razor-X> and the fact that screen returns a different $TERM makes it awesome in my hacks ;)
[10:38] <Razor-X> dabaR: KDE
[10:38] <GammaRay> Razor-X: does emacs allow detaching like screen?
[10:38] <Razor-X> GammaRay: yeah
[10:38] <znh> GammaRay: just a question, what's the difference between X-ray and GammaRay :/ ?
[10:39] <Razor-X> GNU Screen was based of a lot of functionality of GNU Emacs buffers without the whole emacs environment
[10:39] <GammaRay> znh: none actually
[10:39] <GammaRay> znh: from what I was reading
[10:39] <znh> GammaRay: aha ok, just wondering :P
[10:39] <Razor-X> still, screen implements some things better than emacs buffers do, and those small things count
[10:39] <GammaRay> still emacs won't allow me to run irssi inside it.. or will it?
[10:39] <Slipjack> Okay. Nice talking to everyone off-topic in the on-topic channel. :) I'm out.
[10:39] <znh> hmm.. it seems they disabled the ETA in apt-get?
[10:40] <Razor-X> GammaRay: M-x ansi-term
[10:40] <lesshaste> which kernel is used for the install in hoary?
[10:40] <Razor-X> although, I don't even know why you use irssi *shrugs*
[10:40] <Razor-X> erc is superior, ;)
[10:40] <Razor-X> I used to use BitchX, but that's a thing of the past ;)
[10:40] <znh> Razor-X: irssi isn't that hard
[10:40] <Razor-X> I prefered BitchX over irssi, before erc, of course
[10:41] <znh> Razor-X: why do you like BitchX, if I may ask
[10:41] <nJess> but irssi is so much better
[10:41] <nJess> :(
[10:41] <Razor-X> nJess: everyone says that
[10:41] <Razor-X> my theory is that it has something to do with what you use first, at least in this one case
[10:41] <Razor-X> almost everyone who tries irssi first ends up hating BitchX
[10:41] <nJess> Razor-X, not really
[10:41] <Razor-X> and vice versa
[10:41] <nJess> i used bitchx first
[10:41] <nJess> it was lame
[10:42] <znh> it's just that I knew irssi before BitchX :P
[10:42] <nJess> no active dev in years is a bad thing
[10:42] <Razor-X> nJess: well, you just wrote it off as lame and left
[10:42] <nJess> so i lkiked irssi
[10:42] <znh> they are both nice bitches though
[10:42] <Razor-X> znh: vice versa here
[10:42] <Razor-X> nJess: tell that to gparted users ;)
[10:42] <nJess> ohhh
[10:42] <Razor-X> I tried BitchX, got a feel for it, and then started loving it
[10:42] <znh> thoreauputic: why should they
[10:42] <nJess> i love this song
[10:43] <Razor-X> after that, irssi seemed quite foreign
[10:43] <Razor-X> funny thing is, they're based on pretty much identical frameworks
[10:43] <thoreauputic> znh: erm... it was , like, a joke
[10:43] <Razor-X> (ircII)
[10:43] <nJess> no they are not
[10:43] <znh> thoreauputic: HAHAHAHAHA
[10:43] <nJess> irssi is from scratch
[10:43] <Razor-X> nJess: yes they are
[10:43] <nJess> its not based on anything
[10:43] <znh> thoreauputic: latency's eh..
[10:43] <Razor-X> nJess: that's irssi bleating
[10:43] <Razor-X> irssi was based on ircII
[10:43] <nJess> thats not true
[10:43] <nJess> i've read into it
[10:43] <Razor-X> BitchX and irssi are both forks of that
[10:43] <GammaRay> thoreauputic: all the happy users turn agents of irssi (the man)
[10:43] <Razor-X> and so have I
[10:44] <thoreauputic> GammaRay: ah, the Ubuntu Effect then ;)
[10:44] <Razor-X> it's based on it, it may be written from scratch, but it was based on ircII
[10:45] <priest> in which package is "cryptdisc" in?
[10:45] <Razor-X> also, in the channels I used to frequent, B-X was more popular
[10:45] <znh> anyways, anyone used qvwm sometime? - It's extreamly fast, even faster as fvwm I noticed
[10:45] <Razor-X> I thought irssi was pretty nice until I saw #ubuntu
[10:45] <bob2> irssi was not based on it
[10:45] <Razor-X> bob2: I thought it was
[10:46] <Razor-X> funny how no-one says anything on ``BitchX''
[10:46] <bob2> except for "geez that's a bad irc client"
[10:46] <znh> Razor-X: I would if I knew it
[10:47] <znh> Lag: 1.74
[10:47] <Madpilot> oh boy: http://www.mslinux.org/
[10:47] <znh> Madpilot: yea, it's so funny
[10:48] <Madpilot> "Microsoft has hired lawyers to attack it's own product line in an attempt to confuse the DOJ."
[10:48] <znh> those user comments on the right are hell funny
[10:48] <znh> eh the other right, left it's called
[10:48] <Razor-X> s/nice/niche/
[10:48] <bob2> "Last updated:  Thursday, April 13, 2000"
[10:49] <Madpilot> OK, so it's an old joke...
[10:49] <znh> good jokes are mostly old jokes
[10:49] <virtuel> Hiya. I have a quick question: I'd like to set up my computer with a non-standard resolution
[10:49] <znh> virtuel: Ok!
[10:50] <znh> virtuel: that can be done by editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:50] <Madpilot> but whoever put that page together had the cojones to link it right back to MS - look at the "copyright" down at the bottom... heh
[10:50] <virtuel> I tried adding it to xorg.conf, but it still doesn't show up in System/Preferences/Screen Resolution
[10:50] <virtuel> (and I have restarted X already)
[10:50] <znh> virtuel: I think that never would, that are just some premade resolutions
[10:51] <priest> in debian there is a package "cryptsetup", does not ubuntu has it too?
[10:51] <znh> archive.ubuntu says Remote Closed Connection..
[10:51] <znh> sometimes
[10:52] <znh> priest: what would it be able to do?
[10:52] <virtuel> znh, the resolution has been offered to me by other distros, 1400x1050
[10:52] <priest> znh: crypt discs :)
[10:53] <znh> virtuel: You should put 1400x1050 at the beginning of your mode list, then it would be chosen as the default res
[10:54] <linlin> i seem to have killed grub on my system, how do i reinstall it?
[10:54] <priest> znh: btw, it was there :)
[10:54] <znh> priest: ok,. nice
[10:54] <salil> anyone know of a good gnutella client..?
[10:54] <salil> quit help
[10:54] <znh> salil: you might want to try mldonkey - I didnt tell you this lol
[10:55] <slept> linlin, grub-install
[10:55] <GammaRay> salil: gtk-gnutella
[10:55] <virtuel> znh, this is in xorg.conf, right? If so, it's already there
[10:55] <salil> okay.. znh .. but there can i get it..
[10:55] <linlin> but from where, i cant get into a running system
[10:55] <salil> GammaRay: i tried it and didn't like it..
[10:55] <znh> virtuel: yes but it should be the first mode
[10:55] <znh> salil: mldonkey is awesome to be honest
[10:56] <overture> i like the "DO NOT USE BREEZY YET" warning, lol
[10:56] <GammaRay> mldonkey kinda isn't a gnutella client
[10:56] <znh> overture: yea it's very user-friendly :P
[10:56] <Tomcat_> mldonkey has many protocols...
[10:56] <salil> znh: where do i get mldonkey... is it in the repositories..?
[10:56] <Tomcat_> It can even do BitTorrent... :o
[10:56] <znh> GammaRay: It is
[10:56] <virtuel> from /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
[10:56] <psychonate> I prefer bittornado and amule myself
[10:56] <virtuel> Modes		"1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[10:56] <psychonate> and irc heh
[10:56] <znh> Tomcat_: Yea I used that for commercial front-ends, seeding legal torrents :D
[10:57] <Tomcat_> :>
[10:57] <overture> i was supprised ubuntu didn't detect a piece of hardware of mine out of the box for the first time today
[10:57] <overture> dwl-g520 revB
[10:57] <GammaRay> znh: really? huh
[10:57] <znh> GammaRay: really what?
[10:57] <b3n_> hi
[10:58] <znh> b3n_: hi dutchy
[10:58] <b3n_> #kubuntu is very quiet
[10:58] <b3n_> so I try it here
[10:58] <mebaran151> any ideas how to make it automatically work
[10:58] <salil> znh: found it.. its in one of the repositories..
[10:58] <znh> b3n_: welcome, feel free to ask :)
[10:58] <znh> salil: I wont suggest you that
[10:58] <mebaran151> my sndcard, a Via Envy 24PT
[10:58] <virtuel> znh, the weird thing is the screen resolution app offers me resolutions not listed in xorg.conf
[10:58] <mebaran151> does not get a device on boot, although the modules load
[10:58] <mebaran151> alsa declares no such sndcard exists
[10:58] <b3n_> it is about the kubuntu dvd for powerpc
[10:58] <salil> znh: then what would you suggest..??
[10:59] <GammaRay> znh: they only mention gnutella2.. are you sure?
[10:59] <znh> salil: since it's a p2p client, it would be safier to compile it from source
[10:59] <znh> GammaRay: I seen it many times in the configs
[10:59] <salil> znh: i don't understand..!!
[10:59] <b3n_> I saw quite some requests for it on the ubuntulinuxforums
[10:59] <CapSoft> lo folks
[10:59] <CapSoft> i am back
[10:59] <CapSoft> in linux with x-chat!
[10:59] <znh> Congrats
[10:59] <b3n_> however the bittorrent file is stuck on 72.1%
[10:59] <b3n_> it is the kubuntu-5.04-dvd-powerpc.iso file
[10:59] <CapSoft> thanks
[11:00] <znh> salil: what do you not understand?
[11:00] <CapSoft> some1 experience with a windows printer shared? and XS to it from ubuntu?
[11:00] <salil> znh: how do i get the source..?
[11:00] <b3n_> if someone could start uploading it again, I would be happy to host it thereafter at my ubuntu/kubuntu dvd images mirror
[11:00] <CapSoft> b3n_, why not grab it from http or ftp?
[11:00] <znh> salil: search in google for svannah mldonkey, then pick the newest version
[11:01] <b3n_> CapSoft: it is the DVD
[11:01] <znh> b3n_: 4gb isn't that large to download
[11:01] <b3n_> CapSoft: they are usually only available via bittorrent
[11:01] <CapSoft> ow sorry forgot that ;) ur right b3n_
[11:01] <salil> znh: how do i know that its stable..?
[11:02] <b3n_> that is why i set up the dvd mirror to serve them via http (nginyang.uvt.nl)
[11:02] <salil> znh: i got this location from google -> http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/mldonkey/
[11:02] <kyoman> grmmbl r there alot of packages that r available for 386 that is not avail for the 64
[11:02] <znh> salil: yes that's the right location
[11:02] <salil> znh: i don't know which one to choose.. what if the newest ones are not that stable..
[11:02] <b3n_> but the powerpc kubuntu dvd is not being seeded at the moment and hence  a lot of people are stuch
[11:02] <CapSoft> can someone help me with my windows printer, which is shared and i'd like to access through lan?
[11:02] <salil> znh: which version are you using ..??
[11:02] <b3n_> /s/stuch/stuck
[11:02] <znh> salil: the newest one 2.6.0 is stable
[11:02] <znh> salil: I'm not using any p2p
[11:03] <salil> ah..
[11:03] <salil> okay
[11:03] <salil> znh: how do i compile it.>?
[11:03] <cute_bettong> um how do i mount hdb1 which is an ntfs partition for just a bit to get some files off of it
[11:03] <znh> salil: have you already extracted it?
[11:03] <mebaran151> any ideas on my sound problem
[11:03] <mebaran151> Via Envy 24PT
[11:03] <salil> yes.
[11:03] <CapSoft> mebaran151, try lsof /dev/dsp
[11:03] <salil> znh: yes
[11:04] <salil> znh: is it the same command.. ./configure....??
[11:04] <znh> salil: do: sudo ./configure && make && make install
[11:04] <salil> znh: then make and make install..??
[11:04] <znh> salil: yes when they ask to download a needed dependicie, typ yes
[11:04] <thoreauputic> cute_bettong: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt ; cd /mnt   and so on
[11:04] <salil> znh: ooh..right.. thanks..
[11:05] <virtuel> cute_bettong: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[11:05] <znh> bob2: may I ask you a question?
[11:05] <mebaran151> CapSoft, big problem is
[11:05] <mebaran151> that /dev/dsp is not getting made by udev
[11:06] <kyoman> anyone in here running amd64 ?
[11:06] <mebaran151> kyoman, I am
[11:06] <CapSoft> hmm... k then i have no clue since i am a noob :)
[11:06] <mebaran151> trying to get my Via chip to work
[11:06] <mebaran151> /dev/dsp
[11:06] <mebaran151> of Via Envy 24PT
[11:06] <CapSoft> some1 experience with a windows machine with a printer shared?
[11:07] <jowi> hmm.
[11:07] <znh> CapSoft: seems that we dont
[11:07] <jowi> i have a process i can not kill
[11:07] <kyoman> mebaran r there alot of missing packets,or do i miss something,apt-get install libesd-alsa0 tells me the packet r missing ...is working on my i686
[11:07] <CapSoft> apperantly :(
[11:07] <bob2> znh: ?
[11:07] <jowi> what do i use if kill -s 9 does not work?
[11:07] <thoreauputic> jowi: try using pstree to see the parent and kill that
[11:07] <nexu> kill -9
[11:07] <znh> bob2: when I would help someone installing a p2p client, Iam being illegal?
[11:08] <jowi> thoreauputic, the parent is my windowmanager
[11:08] <virtuel> znh, only if actually installing the p2p client is illegal
[11:08] <thoreauputic> jowi: ah - oops :)
[11:08] <bob2> znh: I woudln't think so
[11:08] <jowi> thoreauputic, ps -A shows the filename <defunct>
[11:08] <mebaran151> I dont hink my alises are setup correctly
[11:08] <bob2> IANAL etc
[11:08] <virtuel> znh, remember that p2p may be used for legitimate purposes as well
[11:09] <znh> virtuel: that's true
[11:09] <mebaran151> bob2, what sould be setup in my /etc/modprobe.d if soudn aliases were set correctly
[11:09] <thoreauputic> jowi: if it's defunct, why would you kill it ?
[11:09] <bob2> mebaran151: I wouldn't bother with aliases at all
[11:09] <jowi> thoreauputic, because if i try to open a new instance of it the app complains that it is already running
[11:09] <ethics> blizzard use bittorrent to distribute patches on world of warcraft...precident of legality on a commercial product..
[11:10] <thoreauputic> jowi: right - I just realised that myself - sorry
[11:10] <znh> ethics: yup, like linux also does - I sponsored that a while ago
[11:10] <jowi> thoreauputic, is there a command that kills without sending signals and without expecting a reply?
[11:11] <thoreauputic> jowi: sorry I don't understand that
[11:11] <b3n_> by the way, onyone here got an wireless pcmcia aironet 350 card running under ubuntu WITH WPA encryption? (WEP and no encryption does work however)
[11:11] <znh> x\away: Hi to austria - from the netherlands
[11:11] <kyoman> bob2 r all the packages for ix86 available for amd64 to ??
[11:11] <jowi> thoreauputic, i need a more powerfull kill command :-)
[11:11] <b3n_> au=australia
[11:11] <b3n_> ;)
[11:12] <bob2> kyoman: mostly
[11:12] <psychonate> You scared him away lol
[11:12] <znh> b3n_: austria is the english word for austrilan
[11:12] <ToRTuReD_X> lol
[11:12] <bob2> kyoman: for free software stuff, almost always
[11:12] <ToRTuReD_X> sorry
[11:12] <ToRTuReD_X> was me
[11:12] <thoreauputic> jowi: pull the power plug out ;)
[11:12] <ToRTuReD_X> i hit a key and thought i closed all windows
[11:12] <mebaran151> bob2, so what should I try to do
[11:12] <jowi> thoreauputic, i did. it is still there
[11:12] <mebaran151> I have the modules loaded
[11:12] <ToRTuReD_X> but it was minimised into the panel
[11:12] <bob2> mebaran151: load the module
[11:12] <mebaran151> they are loaded ....
[11:12] <jowi> i will try another reboot to see if i am lucky
[11:12] <kyoman> bob hmm i must miss something in my sources.list then ....i cant find alot of them ...for example libesd-alsa0
[11:13] <mebaran151> all the correct snd moduels ARE loaded
[11:13] <b3n_> znh: australian is the english word for austria??
[11:13] <znh> Razor-X: woot, almost done installing kde
[11:13] <znh> b3n_: nevermind.. i'm already confused now :p
[11:13] <kyoman> bob2 hmm i must miss something in my sources.list then ....i cant find alot of them ...for example libesd-alsa0
[11:13] <b3n_> :)
[11:14] <thoreauputic> b3n_: the australian word for australian is "strine" ;-)
[11:14] <bob2> kyoman: apparently not built on amd64 for hoary
[11:14] <kyoman> ok..
[11:14] <bob2> kyoman: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <virtuel> Hm. Does anyone know of a good graphical sftp client?
[11:14] <bob2> virtuel: nautilus
[11:14] <znh> bob2: another question, I'd like to create some IRC bot that logs all the quit messages, is it allowed to put such a client like that in here? (it would be silent one)
[11:14] <psychonate> sftp?
[11:14] <b3n_> afk-back to work
[11:14] <desrt> psychonate; secure file transfer
[11:15] <desrt> psychonate; basically, ftp over ssh
[11:15] <bob2> znh: if it's silent, I don't mind
[11:15] <psychonate> ah, never used that
[11:15] <bob2> znh: the channel's already logged, tho
[11:15] <kyoman> bob2 ok thx...guess its compile time :-/
[11:15] <CapSoft> guys i installed hpijs but where is the .ppd file?
[11:15] <znh> bob2: that doesn't mather to me :P
[11:15] <CapSoft> how can i search from / to all *.ppd files there are?
[11:16] <bob2> kyoman: why do you want it?
[11:16] <ethics> bob2: i think he want to grep it for "znh sux" etc hehe
[11:16] <desrt> CapSoft; grep  ppd$ /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list
[11:16] <thoreauputic> CapSoft: try " locate *.ppd "
[11:16] <znh> ethics: might be
[11:17] <mebaran151> I think I will try gentoo again
[11:17] <mebaran151> at least there I could blame myself
[11:17] <kyoman> bob2...cant get my sound to work proper,and found a troubleshot tip for it that worked on my i686
[11:17] <jowi> thoreauputic, a reboot solved it. i think that "pulled the plug" caused the prob in the first place. tripped over the laptop powercable so it did not really shut down properly :-)
[11:17] <mebaran151> kyoman, you running a Via Envy
[11:17] <mebaran151> because mine doesnt work at all
[11:17] <desrt> mebaran151; gentoo isn't bad.  i wish you luck.
[11:17] <thoreauputic> jowi: aha!
[11:18] <bob2> kyoman: that won't help your sound work any better
[11:18] <bob2> unless alsa oss emulation is broken on your machine
[11:18] <CapSoft> thanks thoreauputic
[11:18] <kyoman> bob2 i dont have any sound ....
[11:18] <mebaran151> desrt, what other 64 bit distros exist
[11:18] <thoreauputic> CapSoft: you're welcome
[11:18] <mebaran151> that have any user base
[11:18] <desrt> mebaran151; 64bit what?
[11:19] <praj> How do down load latex pachake in ubuntu?
[11:19] <kyoman> mebaran gigabyte ga-k8vt800pro
[11:19] <mebaran151> desrt distibutions
[11:19] <desrt> mebaran151; what arch?
[11:19] <mebaran151> AMD64
[11:19] <desrt> oh . don't know about that
[11:19] <mebaran151> I have always wanted to play with a BSD
[11:19] <desrt> ppc64 is more my thing :)
[11:19] <mebaran151> but BSD is just weird with slices and all
[11:20] <desrt> if that's your biggest problem with bsd .....
[11:20] <thoreauputic> praj: did you mean "latex package" ?
[11:20] <jowi> mebaran151, got a friend that uses FreeBSD on his amd64. he says it works much better than gentoo
[11:20] <kyoman> mebaran it is a via chipset
[11:20] <mebaran151> jowi, I would think so
[11:20] <jowi> and the slices are a good thing
[11:20] <nightswim> * works better than gentoo
[11:20] <mebaran151> jowi, how so
[11:20] <nightswim> even minix
[11:20] <desrt> nightswim; ..
[11:20] <mebaran151> can I have seperate file systems on each slice
[11:20] <mebaran151> desrt, a slice is a subpartition
[11:20] <desrt> mebaran151; yes
[11:21] <desrt> mebaran151; the idea is that bsd only takes one partition total
[11:21] <desrt> and all of its separate filesystems go into slices
[11:21] <desrt> that way it doesn't each up your entire partition table (which can only have 4 entries)
[11:21] <jowi> mebaran151, slices are needed since bsd need to reside on a primary partition
[11:22] <GammaRay> that might have mattered before extended partitions
[11:22] <jowi> mebaran151, you can only have 4 primary partitions on one single disk
[11:22] <thoreauputic> praj: there are many latex-related packages - try " apt-cache search latex | less "
[11:22] <mebaran151> jowi, I know that
[11:22] <znh> Woo, back in graphical action
[11:22] <desrt> extended partitions are an awful hack
[11:22] <mebaran151> but I always used logical partitions
[11:22] <jowi> mebaran151, oh ok
[11:22] <desrt> i never use them
[11:23] <mebaran151> but how many slices can you have
[11:23] <desrt> 26, i guess?
[11:23] <GammaRay> 15 w/ freebsd I think
[11:23] <desrt> i'd believe 15 :)
[11:23] <desrt> seb128; wb :P
[11:24] <seb128> re
[11:24] <desrt> seb128; what's the deal with freezes?
[11:24] <desrt> like, what's exempt and not?
[11:25] <mebaran151> how is the BSD kernel anyway?
[11:25] <desrt> mebaran151; lean
[11:25] <seb128> desrt: no solid rules
[11:25] <desrt> seb128; :)
[11:25] <konki> DELL 600m [customized]  NOTEBOOK: anyone can help me make my decision on buying one?specifications/stuffs...
[11:25] <desrt> seb128; so it wouldn't be bad if gnome-applets depended on hal 0.5.4 for example?
[11:25] <seb128> desrt: if something is judged to bring something we want and stable we go for it
[11:26] <jowi> konki, what do you mean customised?
[11:26] <seb128> desrt: pitti has uploaded 0.5.3 this morning ... is there any 0.5.4 atm? when is it due? what does it change? what does it bring?
[11:26] <mebaran151> desrt, but I hate the UFS
[11:26] <konki> jowi, you know the kind you buy online.. 256/500 MB ram?? what the diff??
[11:26] <desrt> seb128; 0.5.4 is due soon according to david.  it's mostly features.. including some new API
[11:26] <koisti> can someone told a good ftp server for ubuntu with gui
[11:26] <mebaran151> and the fact that they are anal about fs's
[11:27] <desrt> specifically i'd want to use it because it introduces a foolproof "percent" field for batteries
[11:27] <jowi> konki, 512mb ram is more than 256mb. if the pricedifference is low go for it
[11:27] <pitti> seb128: there is no 0.5.4 yet
[11:27] <seb128> desrt: "mostly features" is not something which usually is a good candidate for freezy break
[11:27] <pitti> seb128: I see the announcements
[11:27] <seb128> desrt: good candidates are "mostly bug fixes"
[11:28] <virtuel> konki, I'd say 256 MB ram is a bit on the low side
[11:28] <desrt> seb128; in that case i think i'll hold back on requiring it for 2.12
[11:28] <desrt> pitti; thanks for the upload, btw.
[11:28] <PeaceMakr> hello
[11:28] <seb128> desrt: you can ask pitti if he has planned to go for 0.5.4, but I guess 0.5.3 is a good deal atm
[11:29] <desrt> seb128; i won't play devil's advocate anymore on this one :)
[11:29] <PeaceMakr> can someone help me with ubuntu 5.04 and wireless internet?
[11:29] <desrt> 0.5.3 is fine for me
[11:29] <pitti> desrt: I'll look at the announcement when 0.5.4 comes out and decide then
[11:29] <jowi> konki, usually DELL has offers of getting double memory for free. check out their offers
[11:29] <desrt> and certainly, right now, i need to go to bed already :P
[11:29] <desrt> cheers.
[11:29] <pitti> desrt: but I'll rather go with cherrypicking patches now
[11:29] <[teh] > ubuntu means "person" lol
[11:30] <konki> jowi, yes it does...  512 MB is for free... guess i'll take it...
[11:30] <desrt> pitti; 0.5.3 vanilla (more or less) seems to be a good place to stay
[11:30] <seb128> 'night desrt
[11:30] <desrt> nite.
[11:30] <jowi> konki, 600m is quite good though. it can be taken appart to the smallest part just like a stationary pc. nothing is glued.
[11:30] <desrt> oh.. one more thing
[11:30] <PeaceMakr> does anyone here know about iburst?
[11:30] <desrt> seb128; do you plan on packaging xscreensaver or gnome-screensaver for breezy?
[11:31] <koisti> hey someone, that ftp server for ubuntu??
[11:31] <pitti> koisti: vsftpd is supported
[11:31] <jowi> konki, btw - if you talk to a seller - please be adviced NOT to get a maxtor HDD!!!
[11:31] <koisti> is it with gui
[11:31] <seb128> desrt: gnome-screensaver seems to be nice, I'll probably send a call to test it today now than gnome-settings-daemon knows about it and we will decide according to that
[11:32] <desrt> seb128; k.  keep me updated on that one
[11:32] <andrew_> what does libc6 do?
[11:32] <seb128> np
[11:32] <konki> jowi, well i'm buying it off the site...
[11:32] <desrt> seb128; fabbione and i are working on a screensaver :)
[11:32] <seb128> desrt: you are for gnome-screensaver I guess ? :)
[11:32] <desrt> seb128; ya... as long as it works
[11:32] <seb128> k
[11:32] <jowi> konki, the american or european?
[11:32] <desrt> seb128; if gnome-ss then i'll upload my hack upstream
[11:33] <desrt> if xss then fabbione is gonna try to patch it into the ubuntu xss package
[11:33] <CapSoft> my printer works!
[11:33] <CapSoft> i love ubuntu forums
[11:33] <desrt> thanks.  i really need to leave now :P
[11:33] <konki> jowi, i don't know.. is there a difference??
[11:34] <andrew_> any of you guys tried gentoo?
[11:34] <konki> jowi, it comes down to roughly $1280... good price??
[11:34] <konki> $1230 that is
[11:35] <seb128> desrt: k, later
[11:36] <KyoMan> lol i must miss something essential,sound works on the livecd but not on my install
[11:37] <mebaran151> I think I will try breezy and see if it works there
[11:37] <KyoMan> mebaran u tried with the livecd ??
[11:37] <bob2> the usual problem is people misinterprete "doesn't work"
[11:37] <bob2> mebaran151: you know X doesn't work in breezy, right?
[11:38] <jowi> konki, depends of what is included in that price.i think you should be able to get a "$250 off instantly deal" added to that
[11:38] <Dalkus> can anyone give me the url to the kde lite (I think thats the name) webpage? It's a new project that aims for a kde desktop without the bloat
[11:38] <bob2> #kde would presumably know
[11:39] <Dalkus> alright, thanks.
[11:39] <konki> jowi, yes.. already got the $250 off comes doewn to $1230
[11:39] <jowi> konki, then you have a high-end 600m. good price
[11:40] <konki> jowi, i also got $50 off the pkt DJ.. 5GB... wanna get the 20GB... maybe later...
[11:40] <jowi> konki, and you probably get the 3 year warranty ?
[11:40] <QMario> Why does Ubuntu have a pause each time you are using Mozilla Firefox?
[11:41] <konki> jowi, well, i am shipping it off the US to some isolated islands in the Pacific so warranty doesn't really matter...
[11:41] <QMario> The speed of my DSL connection on Ubuntu is almost equivalent to the speed of the my old d
[11:41] <jowi> konki, oh. too bad.
[11:42] <QMario> The speed of my DSL connection on Ubuntu is almost equivalent to the speed of the my old dial-up connection in Windows. :(
[11:42] <jowi> konki, sometimes the touchpad can get worn out and glitch - same thing with the frontpanel. the warranty is nice to have.
[11:43] <jowi> konki, it does not happen very often but i did get the occasional customer (when i worked for dell tech support) that did
[11:43] <konki> jowi, surely, but i have a HP laptop this will be the 1st dell... my HP is still running smoothly since 2000...
[11:44] <konki> touchpad/screen ok
[11:44] <mebaran151> bob2, still?
[11:44] <mebaran151> haven't they TRIED to fix that yet
[11:44] <znh> test one two three
[11:44] <oatis> what is the easiest way to install koffice 1.4 with kubuntu>
[11:44] <znh> test four five six
[11:44] <konki> jowi, that good to hear... dell are good comps right??
[11:45] <elsha> hey guys, any idea what the default path is to kernel source or headers?
[11:45] <znh> konki: good is defined by the user
[11:45] <Seveas> indeed
[11:45] <bob2> elsha: there isn't one
[11:45] <bob2> elsha: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:45] <jowi> konki, you should really give a call to the dell support. see if the warranty can be moved to the pacific (i had american customers that temp moved to europe for job and they were able to move the warranty with them)
[11:45] <konki> i will never purchase a notebook ever... its just too hard to upgrade....
[11:45] <QMario> Why does Ubuntu have a pause each time you are using Mozilla Firefox?
[11:45] <QMario> The speed of my DSL connection on Ubuntu is almost equivalent to the speed of the my old dial-up connection in Windows. :(
[11:46] <znh> Seveas: I like that they are so silent, I haven't experienced any bad with Dell computers yet
[11:46] <Seveas> QMario: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.
[11:46] <elsha> bob2, awesome :) thanks
[11:46] <jowi> konki, yes they are good. nothing is locked on them. everything can be replaced without hassle with a screwdriver.
[11:46] <konki> jowi, well i don't really think it would matter since the person who will be owning the PC will travel ocasionally to the US
[11:46] <bob2> elsha: what are you trying to compile?
[11:46] <Seveas> znh, at the Ubiversity where I work they use only dell workstations. A lot of the tft's already have multiple dead pixels to name one thing
[11:47] <Seveas> University*
[11:47] <xinel> hey guys i can't get my sound working any suggestions?
[11:47] <bob2> tell doesn't make their own tfts, tho
[11:47] <bob2> er, Dell
[11:47] <znh> Seveas: haha lol
[11:47] <koisti> xinel, any sound or ex only with xmms
[11:47] <Seveas> xinel, does the file /dev/dsp exist?
[11:47] <jowi> bob2, dell doesn't make anything themselves. they only build and brand them
[11:47] <xinel> using alsa, sounds not muted
[11:47] <Seveas> xinel, ahh, you killed esd?
[11:47] <elsha> bob2, i'm trying to get drivers for webcam working, but the linux shell script i had couldnt find the headers, cause i hadn't installed them yet
[11:47] <oatis> can someone please explain to me how to install koffice 1.4 from ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/koffice-1.4.1/
[11:48] <znh> Seveas: dead pixels are made by force - or not?
[11:48] <konki> jowi, i think so because i work for this comp org called "freegeek" we recycle computers/parts, and resell em.. dell PC's are the easiest to take apart...
[11:48] <xinel> killed esd, no /dev/dsp
[11:48] <Seveas> xinel, if /dev/dsp does not exist, your sound card is not recognized and the drivers for it aren't loaded
[11:49] <xinel> interesting
[11:49] <jowi> konki, they are FUN to take appart :-)
[11:49] <Seveas> xinel, put the output of lspci on the pastebin
[11:49] <Seveas> jowi, agreed
[11:49] <xinel> pastebin?
[11:49] <Seveas> with a hammer...
[11:49] <Seveas> xinel, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:50] <konki> jowi, truly.. a pain in the butt too... scratched my hand/fingers alot...
[11:50] <jowi> they have about a ton of tiny-tiny screws though. somehow i always have one or two in my hand after everything is put together again... how does that happen?
[11:50] <konki> but hey @ least i'm learning alot... plus those peeps there are pro Linux.. thats why i joined em..
[11:51] <konki> mostly work but i learn alot and its free...
[11:51] <xinel> okies its on pastebin
[11:51] <jowi> konki, that sounds good
[11:51] <konki> FREEGEEK.org
[11:51] <Seveas> aha audigy...
[11:51] <xinel> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/816
[11:51] <xinel> audigy 2 zs
[11:52] <Seveas> lots of people have problems with audigy cards
[11:52] <xinel> i just changed hdd's and hading working on my old hoary install
[11:52] <konki> i know that opensource is the future... but if it ain't @ least i know how to do things others can't
[11:53] <jowi> konki, "adopt a computer"? haha
[11:53] <Seveas> xinel, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21211
[11:54] <konki> jowi, yep.. well i ain't on the adoption prog. i'm on the build prog.
[11:54] <konki> jowi, build 5 get 1 free.... installed with Linux freekbox... lol!
[12:01] <punkrockmcduck> good morning
[12:01] <jowi> konki, sounds like a fun project. start one in europe and i'll come to help
[12:01] <jowi> morning punkrockmcduck
[12:01] <punkrockmcduck> how's it going?
[12:01] <xinel> Seveas: thanx for the link, don't suppose u know how to turn things on and off in alsamixer?
[12:01] <konki> jowi, you wouldn't even think about how many comp. a day we get... our warehouse is so filled its a fire hazard...
[12:01] <konki> jowi, where in europe are you @ ??
[12:01] <Seveas> xinel, m is the mute tuggle, up and down arrows change volume, left and right arrows change control
[12:01] <jowi> konki, i have moved around alot. atm i live in Paris, France.
[12:01] <xinel> Seveas, thanx 'm' was what i was looking for :)
[12:01] <jowi> konki, swedish origin. worked in ireland, denmark and now france
[12:01] <konki> thats nice... wanna visit europe someday...
[12:01] <xinel> now to follow forum link
[12:01] <konki> jowi, college over there, is it expensive?? i read that it was cheap... alot of grads. but no jobs??
[12:01] <xinel> Seveas, that fixed it! thanx alot :)
[12:01] <ubuntwho> hi i was wondering if someone could help me with installing wine
[12:01] <punkrockmcduck> i'm looking at some cdrw/dvd-r combo drives on newegg.com because i need to replace a broken cdrw in one of my computers. are there any compatability issues or brands that i should avoid?
[12:01] <marcin> hi
[12:01] <marcin> could someone tell me how can I check when someone was on this channel?
[12:01] <konki> xinel, apt-get wine install or apt-get install wine
[12:01] <marcin> bot or something.. seen...
[12:01] <jowi> konki, right. very hard to find a job these days. especially in sweden. many move abroad. thanks to the EU it is not such a big hassle though and alot of companies offer relocation-programs. and you can transfer your pension from one country to the next
[12:01] <konki> sweet
[12:02] <tommi^> Hi. I installed the free nvidia drivers. Then I uninstalled those and installed the propierty ones. Now, on every boot I get randomly either non accelarated Xorg or an error while starting x/gdm. Stopping gdm, rmmod nvidia and reinstalling nvidia drivers help. The nvidia installer log complains that the previous installation has been tampered with. Log shows: "Unable to access previously installed file   '/usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1.0.7667' (N
[12:02] <tommi^> o such file or directory).  Unable to access previously installed symlink   '/usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1' (No such file or directory)." What causes the changes to the nvidia driver installation? Thanks
[12:02] <jowi> konki, and we do not have fees for college and universities in sweden.
[12:02] <ubuntwho> konki,  im reading at the wine site that i should uninstall any previous versions of wine?
[12:03] <tommi^> As a side note, I have uninstalled all nvidia driver I know with apt-get. apt-get remove nvidia*
[12:03] <konki> jowi, you mean its free??
[12:03] <IIIEars> is there a nuclear blast command for apt like "purge"?
[12:04] <konki> ubuntwho, do you have previous versions installed?? i don't really know but i installed wine just fine...
[12:04] <xinel> konki, why would i want wine?
[12:04] <jowi> konki, yes. if you have enough grades to get in. but as a student you need to take a loan for rent, food and internetconnection of course :-)
[12:04] <liraz> Why do thunderbird fonts wish to remain antialias even though I have disabled them?
[12:04] <tommi^> konki, same here in Finland.
[12:04] <konki> xinel, i think you would like to run some programs that run on windows
[12:04] <jowi> konki, as tommi^ said. the nordic countries have very similar systems
[12:04] <bob2> IIIEars: sure, remove --purge
[12:04] <xinel> thanx fo the thought but i have a windows boxen to do that
[12:04] <konki> tommi^, what about foriegners?? free too?
[12:05] <xinel> coz i can't get fusionHDTV lite to work on ubuntu
[12:05] <jowi> coffee time
[12:05] <IIIEars> tommi^ - if you say yes i am grabbing the next flight there. - lol
[12:05] <tommi^> konki, currently yes, there are some talks if foreigners should have fees.
[12:06] <xinel> so who gets free uni?
[12:06] <tommi^> IIIEars, welcome then.
[12:06] <konki> xinel, well i ain't that hi-tech wait a few more years... i'm a newbie too
[12:06] <xinel> hehe
[12:06] <xinel> yah i think i'll wait till its a bit easier to do
[12:06] <ubuntwho> konki,  how do i tell if i have a previous version installed?
[12:06] <xinel> ah sweden
[12:07] <cafuego> sveeeden!
[12:07] <cafuego> (bork, bork)
[12:07] <IIIEars> Amazed by the number of games ported to linux - loki has been very very busy. - lol
[12:07] <konki> maybe i should move over there.. seen all the wild parties on 'wild on'
[12:07] <tommi^> As a matter of fact I'm entering to university this fall and I have only few fees: total amount of about 100 euros.
[12:07] <konki> ubuntwho, try to locate it...
[12:07] <xinel> i wanna go to America if road trip and teen movies have taught me anything America is full of hot willing chicks :P
[12:08] <IIIEars> lol -
[12:08] <tommi^> IIIEars, so are you coming then?
[12:08] <konki> ubuntwho, try to locate it... 'locate wine'
[12:08] <Jen20> Where can I download all the security updates for hoary to then rip to a CD? I'd like to install them before connecting to the net with a new installation. http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz is the closest I've come.
[12:08] <IIIEars> tommi^ - i need a favor.. - erm. could you talk to my wife?
[12:08] <konki> xinel, i am thinking the same thing about europe...
[12:09] <ubuntwho> konki,  k ty one sec
[12:09] <konki> i think you got it on the opposite direction...
[12:09] <xinel> koisti, yah i just bought Eurotrip
[12:09] <xinel> w00t
[12:10] <tommi^> IIIEars, sure, why not. You don't mind if I persuade her with few pictures of local men (no, not meaning me)? :)
[12:10] <bob2> amen
[12:10] <bob2> aside from the prive
[12:10] <konki> xinel, the one with absinithe & kissing bro/sis??
[12:10] <xinel> hehe yah
[12:10] <IIIEars> My job is awful > 0_o
[12:10] <konki> absinithe, a drink i can't seem to find in the bars here
[12:10] <xinel> that reminds me i better set dvd to dma
[12:11] <IIIEars> cool -
[12:11] <xinel> konki, its easy to buy in Australia
[12:11] <cafuego> Just too bad it tastes like shit
[12:11] <xinel> nah i like it has a nice liccorish taste
[12:12] <bob2> that's why you put burning sugar in it and shot it
[12:12] <ubuntwho> konki,  when i did a locate it came up with wine.png and wine.svg is that it?
[12:12] <jowi> the absinthe is not the same as 200 years ago though
[12:12] <konki> sweet... its illegal to sell in the us... am waiting to get some loot and buy some online and ship it over
[12:12] <liraz> I'm trying to do a ./bootstrap and I get:  aclocal: configure.in: 39: macro `AM_PATH_ALSA' not found in library
[12:12] <cafuego> bob2: nah, that's why you ask greg to do something nice with blueberries and vodka ;-)
[12:12] <bob2> haha
[12:12] <xinel> whats the diff between 200 years ogo and today absynth?
[12:13] <bob2> the hallucinogenic properties
[12:13] <cafuego> (greg being my local cocktail bar dude)
[12:13] <refuze2looze> what script would be a good place to run xmodmap on startup?
[12:13] <jowi> xinel, they needed to remove some "poison" as bob2 said
[12:13] <xinel> haha
[12:13] <xinel> bugger
[12:13] <cafuego> If you need to hallucinate, just eat two entire nugmegs.
[12:13] <konki> ubuntwho, well i don't know, thats as much as i can take you... i havn't learn how to uninstall a prog. on Linux. as i said 'newbie'.. thats as far i could take you
[12:13] <cafuego> nutmegs too
[12:14] <xinel> apt-get remove proggy
[12:15] <ubuntwho> konki,  k its cool
[12:15] <ubuntwho> konki,  im a newb too :] 
[12:15] <liraz> DOes anyone know why I would get such an error when trying to ./bootstrap btsco alsa ?
[12:18] <ubuntwho> xinel, does the latest version of ubuntu come with wine?
[12:18] <python_> konki: Whats up mate ill help you out.......without sarcasm too
[12:19] <python_> private message me and ill see if i can get u sorted
[12:19] <konki> sarcasm???
[12:19] <python_> ;-)
[12:20] <konki> python_, well... thanks but i think ubuntwho needs a more help... i've already been cured
[12:21] <ubuntwho> :]  <--- newb
[12:21] <darijr> someone has installed pearpc?
[12:21] <bob2> best to just ask your question
[12:21] <xinel> ubuntuwho: nope it doesn't
[12:22] <konki> czechs absynthe $65 a btl buy 2 get 2 free... good deal... http://www.czechabsinth.com/
[12:22] <darijr> just to play with it... I would like to install OS X
[12:22] <xinel> hahaha can't get dma to work on hdc
[12:22] <liraz> has anyone here gotten a bluetooth headset working in ubuntu?
[12:22] <ubuntwho> awsome brb
[12:22] <python_> konki:dont seem to be working konki
[12:22] <IIIEars> xine1 - that is very unusual.
[12:22] <python_> wht do u need
[12:23] <tha_gamemaster> darijr, the last i checked pearpc is still quite slow... how fast is your processor?
[12:23] <darijr> I installed pearpc from apt... but which steps do I should follow... to run OS X under pearpc
[12:23] <konki> python_, what do you mean??
[12:23] <darijr> is PIV 3.ooGhz
[12:23] <paulproteus> darijr: I think this is covered on the pearpc web page.
[12:23] <tha_gamemaster> darijr, i agree with paulproteus
[12:23] <darijr> ok.. I see what it says
[12:24] <konki> python_, i dont know whats up with this pvt thingie... how do i set it up??
[12:24] <beezly> uhoh - libcairo seems screwed in breezy :(
[12:24] <beezly> new new apps for me :(
[12:25] <python_> konki- Dont seem to be working right
[12:25] <python_> just tell me here in main room
[12:25] <xinel> hrmms can enable it easy on hdd
[12:25] <konki> python_, i think so... you gonna send me some absynthe to USA??
[12:27] <konki> python_,  yeah... wheres the new window??
[12:27] <konki> or tab
[12:28] <python_> Look at the tab at bottom left do u see your name
[12:28] <konki> yes
[12:28] <python_> click tht konki
[12:28] <konki> ok.. it says enter new nickname
[12:28] <refuze2looze> what script would be a good place to run xmodmap on startup?
[12:29] <python_> forget it for now,
[12:29] <python_> just explain your proble here
[12:30] <konki> python_, there wasn't any we was just chillin here "solving problems"... j/k... but i just needed some help on buying a new PC.. but its done already
[12:31] <konki> notebook xtuallyh
[12:31] <python_> thts good konki
[12:32] <konki> yep, for someone back home... back in the islands....
[12:32] <konki> xtually my mom...
[12:32] <xinel> seems to be that for a cdrom that is the master ide setting dma to on seems to be a problem
[12:32] <mpmc> Honey, I'm home!
[12:32] <mpmc> lol
[12:33] <konki> but thanks anyways... need a break...
[12:35] <zerboxx> looks like konki's break started while changing nicks
[12:36] <QMario> Thank you Seveas. It's faster now. :)
[12:40] <administrator> hi
[12:40] <konki-is-on-brea> thanks python_ , later gotta rest... work tommorow @ FREEGEEK.org ... recycle recycle recycle...
[12:40] <jantan21> hi room
[12:42] <ubuntwho> python_,  got a sec?
[12:42] <python_> yep
[12:43] <ubuntwho> i'm trying to install wine
[12:43] <konki-is-on-brea> how come there are file transfers on my chat??
[12:43] <python_> Ubuntuwho, its a complex install
[12:44] <python_> what win app do u wanna run out of curiosity
[12:44] <konki-is-on-brea> file trasfers still active
[12:44] <jowi> i can sucessfully log in and browse a samba share using smbclient but i can not mount a samba share to a mountpoint. I get wrong fs type
[12:44] <topyli> konki-is-on-brea: not expecting any?
[12:44] <konki-is-on-brea> topyli, yes
[12:44] <jowi> anyone successfully mounted a smb share?
[12:44] <konki-is-on-brea> jowi, i don't know??
[12:44] <ubuntwho> python_,  steam
[12:44] <topyli> konki-is-on-brea: yes you are expecting, or yes you are not? :)
[12:45] <jowi> konki-is-on-brea, thank you! ;-)
[12:45] <python_> what is steam
[12:45] <konki-is-on-brea> i am not expecting any... i didn't request any
[12:45] <ubuntwho> its for counter-strike
[12:45] <topyli> konki-is-on-brea: just refuse them. as to how, depends on your client
[12:45] <python_> is it a game?
[12:45] <ubuntwho> yes
[12:45] <opossumjack> paulproteus: hi...
[12:46] <python_> ok
[12:46] <python_> have u considered a dual boot
[12:46] <jowi> i need help with smb share mounting
[12:47] <ubuntwho> i have a dual boot
[12:47] <konki-is-on-brea> i have X-chat it says when i try to close "Some file transfer still active, quit chat?"
[12:47] <python_> why not just install the game on windows
[12:47] <opossumjack> is the shipit-Free CD REALLY FREE?!?!?!?
[12:48] <jip> i just bought a new crt-monitor. now when i start X, i see two horizontal lines on the screen. (no the monitor is not broken). any idea what software might cause this?
[12:48] <topyli> konki-is-on-brea: try "yes" :)
[12:48] <jip> and i'm running xfce4
[12:48] <python_> Also ubuntuwho: You may consider that WINE does not run every windows app
[12:49] <ubuntwho> its installed on windows but i would like to see how linux handles it
[12:50] <python_> ubuntuwho: Be honest when running through WINE or CrossOver Wndows apps dont run as well as they do in there own native environment
[12:50] <python_> If the game is made for linux and can run natively then fine
[12:51] <python_> Do you know there are some great open source games
[12:52] <ubuntwho> are there any good first person shooters?
[12:52] <python_> yes
[12:52] <paulproteus> opossumjack: Yes, it's really free.
[12:52] <Poromies> python_: I've noticed that some problems are running more stable on wine then they are on windows, and bit faster too :)
[12:52] <Poromies> *problems = programs
[12:52] <virtuel> jip, does your monitor have a trinitron CRT?
[12:52] <python_> really
[12:52] <python_> im surprised at that
[12:52] <opossumjack> pulproteus: thanks a lot... I'll order it right now!!!!
[12:53] <python_> I personally avoid WINE i dont see the point, i try to encourage open source alternatives
[12:53] <Poromies> well not that surprising when you think of it.. wine is just windows re-coded as an OSS project ;)
[12:53] <python_> When i once ran flash through wine it just wasnt the same
[12:54] <jip> virtuel: flat
[12:54] <python_> In the end i just thought id look for alternatives and came across SVG and LASZLO
[12:54] <Poromies> python_: wine is not windows, nor is it windows emulator
[12:54] <python_> Both Open Source
[12:54] <Poromies> it's wine
[12:54] <python_> I know WINE is not an emulator
[12:54] <python_> I know its an open source win3s api
[12:55] <python_> win32 rather
[12:55] <virtuel> jip, most flat crt's these days have a trinitron tube in some form
[12:55] <ubuntwho> are there any good sites on how to install WINE im getting lost since im a newb at their site
[12:55] <python_> i think we should avoid proprietry software
[12:55] <virtuel> jip, in which case, having two very faint horizontal lines on the screen is normal
[12:55] <python_> ubuntuwho, TRY crossover linux, you have to buy it though but its cheap
[12:56] <Poromies> ubuntwho: theres wine how-to at ubuntuforums, or there used to be atleast...
[12:56] <python_> Crossover is based on WINE but is easy to setup
[12:57] <ubuntwho> Poromies,  ok ill give it a look
[12:57] <jip> virtuel: oh :) thanks for the info. i'm gonna check this out
[12:57] <paulproteus> Poromies: I think so, too.
[12:57] <virtuel> jip, the best thing you can do is to boot into something alternative, and see if you see it
[12:57] <virtuel> the lines aren't usually visible on a black screen
[12:58] <jip> if i use higher resolution i can see em better
[12:59] <virtuel> the lines are about 1/3 from the top & 1/3 from the bottom?
[01:00] <ploum> Hello
[01:01] <ploum> anyone knows which OOo will be in Breezy ?
[01:01] <bob2> both of them are there now
[01:02] <ploum> bob2: I know but I wonder wich one will be the default one
[01:02] <topyli> probably depends on the stability of OOo
[01:02] <xinel> bbl reboot
[01:03] <topyli> doh what a truism
[01:09] <abhayks> what is the difference between Breezy & hoary backports ?
[01:09] <deFrysk> breezy backports ?
[01:09] <deFrysk> where ?
[01:09] <bob2> hoary backports are by random non-ubuntu people
[01:09] <bob2> breezy is developed a bunch of ubuntu people and will be the next release
[01:10] <topyli> abhayks: i doubt there are backports for breezy :)
[01:10] <abhayks> topyli: I rephrase my question-- diff between (breezy) and (hoary backports) ?
[01:11] <prego> Eh! what happened to debian-marillat repositories?
[01:11] <bob2> they were never intended for use with ubuntu
[01:11] <bob2> they were coincidentally compatible, somtimes
[01:11] <abhayks> (hoary ackports) are officially supported too
[01:11] <topyli> abhayks: oh. :) hoary backports are backported from breezy sources. there are also extras that are not in breezy
[01:11] <prego> bob2, where do I get w32codecs from now?
[01:12] <bob2> in the sense they're on an ubuntu.com now, as of 2 days ago
[01:12] <bob2> prego: get it and install it with dpkg
[01:12] <bob2> or get it from mplayerhq.hu
[01:12] <prego> bob2, OK, thanks
[01:12] <abhayks> topyli: so all breezy packages are backported to hoary ?
[01:13] <bob2> no
[01:13] <topyli> abhayks: not at all
[01:13] <bob2> thank god
[01:13] <topyli> heh
[01:13] <marlijs> hello, does anyone know howto get canon i250 to work in hoary?
[01:13] <marlijs> it's a pirnter
[01:14] <topyli> abhayks: only those that someone has felt strongly enough to request
[01:14] <topyli> abhayks: and that someone else has agreed to do
[01:15] <abhayks>  topyli:  bob2: thanks
[01:15] <topyli> abhayks: generally, you shouldn't need backports. there are some useful packages in backports-extras though
[01:15] <fabio> Hello all
[01:16] <abhayks> topyli: could u suggest a few
[01:16] <prego> no amd64 packages in backports :-((
[01:17] <topyli> abhayks: not me. :) i do have stuff like tomboy and beagle i want to play with
[01:17] <fabio> guys, have got probs with fonts, when I am reading my chm files in xCHM and CHMViewer I manage to see little square boxes with number instead of special characters...
[01:18] <sirfred> Good morning.
[01:18] <topyli> good afternoon sirfred :)
[01:18] <sirfred> I've just upgraded my Hoary to Breezy. I have some problems that perhaps there's a known solution for them.
[01:19] <sirfred> The first one is that my altgr key is working as alt.
[01:19] <topyli> sirfred: you're supposed to have (and fix) problems with breezy
[01:19] <sirfred> topyli: I know.
[01:19] <topyli> the folks at #ubuntu-devel should be more in-the-know
[01:19] <sirfred> Another thing is that I'm not able to change the X server dpi.
[01:20] <sirfred> Also, my pcmcia memory cards are not automounting.
[01:21] <sirfred> Any idea about these three problems?
[01:21] <benba> hi everybody, please help, how to play mp3 in ubuntu ?
[01:21] <abhayks> in Breezy <CTRL>+<ALT>+<F1> does not work.
[01:21] <paulproteus> benba: See the wiki page on RestrictedFormats
[01:21] <bob2> note breezy is known to not work
[01:21] <paulproteus> abhayks: Interesting.  I wonder if that's a feature.
[01:21] <deFrysk> !mp3
[01:21] <ubotu> mp3 is probably read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[01:21] <benba> thaks
[01:22] <benba> thanks :)
[01:22] <sirfred> abhayks: Yes, perhaps the problems are related (ctrl+alt+Fx and altgr)
[01:22] <virtuel> ben_d, http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs should also provide some clues
[01:22] <paulproteus> !ubuntuguide
[01:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[01:22] <prego> Does evolution spam filter work standalone or you need spamassasin installed?
[01:22] <bob2> prego: it uses SA, yes
[01:22] <abhayks> paulproteus: It is STILL not a feature
[01:23] <paulproteus> abhayks: What do you mean, "it is STILL not a feature"?
[01:23] <prego> bob2, so I have to install the spamassassin package, don't I?
[01:23] <sirfred> I've also lost the white cursor theme
[01:23] <deFrysk> sirfred, sudoapt-get gcursor
[01:23] <paulproteus> abhayks: Maybe in the drive to make everything user-friendly Ubuntu will be dropping Ctrl-Alt-Fn for future releases by default.
[01:23] <bob2> prego: if you want spam filtering, I'd say so
[01:23] <abhayks> well we tend to pass defect as features
[01:23] <bob2> prego: it does Recommend it for a reason
[01:23] <sirfred> deFrysk: I'm going to try. Thanks.
[01:24] <paulproteus> prego: aptitude --with-recommends install <packagename>
[01:24] <bob2> abhayks: if you think you found a bug, file it if no one else has
[01:24] <paulproteus> That's what I do to avoid considerations like what you're thinking through.
[01:24] <bob2> but breezy's X is expected to be broken
[01:24] <bob2> just don't upgrade if you want a working system
[01:24] <sirfred> bob2: I always forget that.
[01:24] <abhayks> bob2: There is already a bug for this
[01:25] <bob2> abhayks: cool, then wait until next week and it'll hopefully be fixed
[01:25] <topyli> the dreaded Crack Development Phase :)
[01:25] <abhayks> bob2: I have installed breezy and its working well. Except for a few small problems
[01:25] <bob2> awesome
[01:25] <bob2> but if you're going to whine on irc, please just stay on hoary
[01:26] <topyli> i use hoary because i insist on whining
[01:26] <bob2> the general you, not anyone in particular
[01:26] <topyli> i just wish i had something to whine about
[01:26] <paulproteus> topyli: Heh.
[01:27] <topyli> perhaps i'll go whine about this here XP box on some other channel :)
[01:27] <Raptoid> Soyle saglam wallpaper adresi soylesenize bana linux ile ilgili ?
[01:27] <bob2> this is pretty clearly an english-speaking channel
[01:28] <spanglesontoast> can you encrypt an archive?
[01:28] <bob2> a tar archive?
[01:28] <jantan21> hi all
[01:28] <abhayks> bob2: I said my breezy is working well. I am not whinning merely telling people my experience
[01:28] <bob2> of course, gpg --symmetric
[01:28] <bob2> abhayks: as I said,  "general you, not anyone in particular"
[01:29] <spanglesontoast> what's that do
[01:29] <spanglesontoast> do I need to have a copy of the key then?
[01:29] <bob2> ...
[01:29] <bimberi> man gpg
[01:29] <bob2> it encrypts a file with a password
[01:29] <bimberi> oops
[01:29] <spanglesontoast> ah so I should make the file first
[01:29] <bob2> of course
[01:29] <bob2> and then read the gpg man page
[01:30] <topyli> doesn't file-roller encrypt zips on the fly?
[01:30] <spanglesontoast> it's just this file manager or archive manager etc
[01:30] <spanglesontoast> has a password on it
[01:30] <spanglesontoast> so does that mean I could have two passwords?
[01:30] <bob2> did you mean "zip file" instead of "archive"?
[01:30] <prego> bob2, Evo should complain if no spamassasin installed when marking a message as trash...
[01:30] <jantan21> hi bob can u help me ?
[01:30] <bob2> prego: then file a wishlist bug saying that
[01:31] <bob2> jantan21: you don't seem to have asked a question
[01:31] <prego> bob2, good idea
[01:31] <bob2> jantan21: and please stop /msg'ing me
[01:31] <spanglesontoast> well I'm using .tar.gz
[01:31] <bob2> then find out how it was encrypted
[01:31] <jantan21> E: Package xmms has no installation candidate <<< why?
[01:32] <spanglesontoast> oh does that get encrypted?
[01:32] <bob2> jantan21: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoryHowto
[01:32] <bob2> spanglesontoast: so, we're going in circles
[01:32] <bob2> spanglesontoast: just ask your real question
[01:32] <rapha> Morning
[01:33] <spanglesontoast> well I'm wondering does the file roller
[01:33] <spanglesontoast> provide password protection for .tar.gz
[01:34] <jantan21> jantan21: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoryHowto <<<next ?
[01:34] <bob2> what?
[01:34] <bob2> go read it
[01:34] <spanglesontoast> ok
[01:34] <spanglesontoast> and what does a file disappear mean
[01:34] <spanglesontoast> when I right click on it
[01:42] <ex-parrot> I don't know whre to ask this... anyone know why Rhymthbox doesn't work when using XFCE under Ubuntu?
[01:42] <ex-parrot> it complains about not being able to open a resource for writing
[01:46] <znh> ... Is there a ubuntu package for the java runtimes?
[01:46] <Ocid> !java
[01:46] <ubotu> [java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[01:47] <znh> thank you
[01:48] <znh> eh.. I just want jre
[01:48] <znh> not the whole java thingy :/
[01:49] <znh> nevermind got it already
[01:50] <luzbelito> hi to all. i had a big big trouble: i edited /etc/sudoers for make a test, and now i can't use root terminal and can't use sudo. any help please? i am driving crazy.
[01:50] <afv-13> struggling with novell client, alien -t'd all the rpm and now i'm stuck with the init.d files
[01:50] <znh> damn compiling Kopete takes long
[01:50] <afv-13> anyone else try this?
[01:51] <luzbelito> .
[01:52] <znh> ,
[01:52] <Tomcat_> luzbelito: I think you need to use a LiveCD like Knoppix or the Ubuntu Live, then mount your disk, and edit sudoers from there.
[01:52] <Tomcat_> luzbelito: No idea if there's an easier way.
[01:52] <virtuel> Tomcat_, there is a utility to edit sudoers. It's referenced in /etc/sudoers
[01:53] <luzbelito> Tomcat_, i am downloading now knoppix .iso file. can it be burned with gnome baker hu ?
[01:53] <Tomcat_> virtuel: I see... visudo. But you need to run that as root, and he can't do that.
[01:53] <Tomcat_> luzbelito: Yeah, will work.
[01:53] <virtuel> sudo visudo
[01:53] <luzbelito> yeah, i try visudo after the first change, and it cant be used
[01:53] <Tomcat_> virtuel: He locked himself out of the sudoers.
[01:54] <virtuel> Tomcat_, ah. then you're right
[01:54] <luzbelito> lenin@cccp:/$ sudo visudo
[01:54] <luzbelito> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 24 <<<
[01:54] <luzbelito> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 24
[01:54] <luzbelito> there is the error
[01:54] <luzbelito> i suppose there is the problem, but i followed manual instructions... i don't know why
[01:56] <spamalope> whats on line 2
[01:56] <spamalope> 4
[01:57] <luzbelito> i cant see sudoers file now.
[01:57] <spamalope> cant cat it?
[01:57] <luzbelito> can i delete sudoers line 24 ?
[01:57] <luzbelito> i dont think so with no root permission
[01:57] <luzbelito> cat: sudoers: Permission denied
[01:58] <elsha> hey, i've been spending most of the afternoon trying to get webcam working... i have the drivers working so that it's working in xawtv, but it comes up with "failed to open the device" when i test it on gnomemeeting... any ideas?
[02:01] <luzbelito> any other option for my problem to edit sudoers ???
[02:02] <virtuel> luzbelito, what Tomcat_ initially said: boot from CD
[02:03] <liran_> im on gaim, and im just seeing that i can't send files... i mean, i dont have that option.
[02:03] <liran_> am i missing some plugin?
[02:03] <roo_> liran, what network?
[02:03] <roo_> msn/yahoo/aim?
[02:03] <liran_> icq
[02:03] <roo_> liran, gaim only supports file transfer for certain networks.
[02:04] <roo_> liran, try lircq
[02:04] <liran_> i see, ok
[02:04] <roo_> liran, licq even (sudo apt-get install licq)
[02:06] <equex> anyone have a tip for me? suddenly my dvdrom doesnt work properly, it sees all DVDs as blank. regular cdroms work though. the DVD rom is confirmed to work(wich i installed Ubuntu with) Konqueror says "Malformed URL" when i try to open it (/cdrom0)
[02:07] <equex> this apparently happened after i broke a line my fstab, but it is now fixed (and that line was about another device anyway)
[02:08] <Smof> hello! I'm a proper newbie to ubuntu, just learning to use lftp. Can anyone tell me if there is a command to remove all the files in a directory so I don't have to type them all out? Also how do I delete a directory itself? Thanks
[02:09] <liraz> Is there any GUI I can use to edit the services in linux?
[02:09] <bimberi> luzbelito: boot in recovery mode and visudo from there
[02:10] <squareyes> evening all, am very much in need of help with printer setup, please
[02:11] <hunn> hi :) testing new installed ubuntu ...
[02:11] <hunn> ... done
[02:13] <ToRTuReD_X> hey guys
[02:13] <tahorg> there is still no date for xorg to be fixed in breezy ?
[02:13] <ToRTuReD_X> what's the command to create a new user?
[02:13] <tahorg> ToRTuReD_X: adduser
[02:14] <bimberi> ToRTuReD_X: adduser
[02:15] <jantan21> Line Number 1285, Column 48 <<<why ?
[02:16] <jantan21>  <property class="bios" subclass="3" name="5"/720_kb_floppy_services_are_supported_(int_13h)" type="string">true</property>
[02:16] <jantan21>  << help me
[02:16] <ToRTuReD_X> thanks guys
[02:16] <ToRTuReD_X> had to format and reinstall
[02:17] <ToRTuReD_X> but couldn't reinstall ubuntu
[02:17] <tahorg> doh
[02:17] <tahorg> why ?
[02:17] <ToRTuReD_X> had to move to Vector Linux
[02:17] <ToRTuReD_X> erm
[02:17] <ToRTuReD_X> one of the boot thingies died
[02:17] <ToRTuReD_X> gump?
[02:17] <ToRTuReD_X> grump?
[02:17] <tahorg> grub
[02:17] <ToRTuReD_X> glump?
[02:17] <ToRTuReD_X> yeh that's it
[02:17] <ToRTuReD_X> it wouldn't install
[02:17] <tahorg> really easy to install
[02:17] <ToRTuReD_X> no it had fatal errors
[02:18] <jantan21> how can u so me install ubuntu true
[02:19] <ToRTuReD_X> jantan?
[02:19] <jantan21> from web
[02:19] <jantan21> how can u show me install ubuntu true
[02:19] <jantan21> from web
[02:20] <jantan21> help me
[02:20] <ToRTuReD_X> http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/install/
[02:20] <nnacht> jantan: what is your problem?
[02:20] <jantan21> i'am install xmms
[02:20] <nnacht> jantan: and_
[02:21] <jantan21> Package xmms has no installation candidate <<<warning
[02:22] <jantan21> tell me if i am wrong with my install ?
[02:22] <nnacht> jantan21: I supose you can try other repositories, and apt-get update
[02:23] <ToRTuReD_X> someone wanna help me mount my hard drive so that i can access my music
[02:23] <nnacht> or u just download the source and compile by yourself
[02:23] <ToRTuReD_X> ;/
[02:23] <nnacht> ToRTuRED: just mount /dev/hd?? /the/path/youwantmount
[02:24] <jantan21> Reading package lists... Done <<<ok
[02:25] <jantan21> next
[02:25] <ToRTuReD_X> thanks nnacht
[02:25] <ToRTuReD_X> anyway
[02:25] <ToRTuReD_X> rebooting into normal user
[02:26] <Smof> can anyone tell me the command for deleting a directory?
[02:26] <nnacht> smof: rmdir
[02:26] <jantan21> smof : what next ?
[02:27] <nnacht> smof: or if the directory is not empty, just try 'rm -fr #
[02:27] <jantan21> nnacht : what next ?
[02:27] <liran_> what easy WYSIWYG html editor can i get for ubuntu?
[02:27] <nnacht> liran_: nvu
[02:27] <IIIEars> mozilla NVU
[02:27] <Smof> nnacht, what does that do? I mean does the 'fr' stand for something? I find it so much easier to remember this stuff if I know what it means
[02:27] <IIIEars> open office does a passable job for a simple page
[02:27] <liran_> ok ill look it up on synaptic
[02:28] <nnacht> smof: ok, let me try to explain.
[02:28] <nnacht> smof: if the directory is empty, just type 'rmdir thedir'
[02:29] <liran_> uhm, no match for mozilla NVU or just NVU
[02:29] <nnacht> smof: else you try to type 'rm -fr thedir', where f means force and r means rekursiv
[02:29] <Smof> ok
[02:29] <Smof> cool, thanks
[02:29] <jantan21> nnacht ::: help me
[02:29] <nnacht> that means everything in the directory will be deleted
[02:29] <liran_> nnacht, its actually rikursyv :P
[02:30] <nnacht> jantan: what is the problem?
[02:30] <jantan21> i can't install xmms ?
[02:30] <nightswim> yes you can
[02:31] <nnacht> jantan: have you tried another repository?
[02:31] <jantan21> taech me
[02:31] <nnacht> ok
[02:32] <IIIEars> ToRTuReD_X, - Check out this script for mounting all avilable drives. (Thanks Seveas. ) http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/518
[02:32] <liran_> what software can i use to create an avi/mpg video of screenshots?
[02:32] <Smof> ok, now I seem to have a problem with my directory names. I created them in Windows and they have spaces, so it's not understanding my command.
[02:32] <nnacht> u can try deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[02:33] <nnacht> smof: use '\' and press the space
[02:33] <sorush21> guys how do I make sure that port 110 is open and what is a good front end program for firewall
[02:33] <Smof> nnacht, I put it in quotes and that seemed to work. Guessing is fun!
[02:33] <nnacht> smof: I do agree with u
[02:33] <liraz> Can someone help me figure out while thunderbird is insisting on only using antialiasing?
[02:34] <liraz> It does not match with the truetype fonts I'm using, and I have set AA off for them
[02:34] <ToRTuReD_X> dammit
[02:34] <johnnybezak> hey guys, do you know of any traffic shaping QoS programs that aren't just using the kernel tools? I have read through some how-to's and I'm sure I'm up to it I'm just hoping there is a simpler way
[02:34] <ToRTuReD_X> how do i install tar.gz files without an extractor?
[02:34] <nightswim> with an extractor
[02:35] <nnacht> tar zxvf ...
[02:35] <ToRTuReD_X> -_-
[02:35] <johnnybezak> you can't haha they need to be extracted
[02:36] <ilba7r> what is the command to list the partitions and their size
[02:36] <Smof> final problem. One of the names has a word in square brackets, it's called 'Randoms and [spunge] ', and it's getting confused by the [spunge]  bit thinking it's a command
[02:36] <bimberi> ilba7r: sudo fdisk -l
[02:36] <nnacht> smof, just use \[
[02:37] <Dartsani> df
[02:37] <ilba7r> thanx bimberi
[02:37] <ToRTuReD_X> ok
[02:37] <ToRTuReD_X> extracted
[02:37] <bimberi> yw :)
[02:37] <ToRTuReD_X> all i have is xpi files
[02:37] <ToRTuReD_X> what now?
[02:38] <superCoco> h
[02:38] <Smof> I don't follow you. It doesn't seem to do anything with the \
[02:39] <squareyes> evening all, my printer/s epson LQ500, and HP laserjet 4 plus won't work with Ubuntu (or any other Linux distro) on parallel cable, /dev/lp0 seems to be there ls /dev/lp0 shows it
[02:39] <bimberi> ToRTuReD_X: are you installing addins for mozilla ?
[02:39] <squareyes> any ideas Please?
[02:39] <ToRTuReD_X> bimberi - nope installing firefox on debian
[02:39] <ToRTuReD_X> ;/
[02:39] <ToRTuReD_X> erm
[02:39] <ToRTuReD_X> sorry
[02:39] <ToRTuReD_X> slackware
[02:40] <ToRTuReD_X> well a distro based on it
[02:40] <IIIEars> ubotu winmac_fstab is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/  Ubotu: Psst! Seveas you made me look good again. - Thanks. :)
[02:40] <ubotu> okay, IIIEars
[02:41] <bimberi> ToRTuReD_X: no readme extracted?
[02:41] <IIIEars> ubotu ubotu forget winmac fstab
[02:41] <ubotu> IIIEars: Are you smoking crack?
[02:41] <IIIEars> ubotu forget winmac fstab
[02:41] <ubotu> i didn't have anything called 'winmac fstab', IIIEars
[02:41] <IIIEars> ubotu forget winmac_fstab
[02:41] <ubotu> i forgot winmac_fstab, IIIEars
[02:42] <mpmc> !info msn
[02:42] <Jen20> Where can I download all the security updates for hoary to then rip to a CD? I'd like to install them before connecting to the net with a new installation. http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz doesn't have URIs.
[02:42] <IIIEars> ubotu winmac is winmac_fstab http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/  Ubotu: Psst! Seveas you made me look good again. - Thanks. :)
[02:42] <ubotu> okay, IIIEars
[02:42] <mpmc> !search msn
[02:42] <ubotu> mpmc: Wish i knew
[02:42] <mpmc> search msn
[02:42] <ToRTuReD_X> bimberi,
[02:42] <mpmc> !ubotu help
[02:43] <ToRTuReD_X> none
[02:43] <sexcopter8000m> this might sound like a silly question, but how can i abort a download in wget?
[02:43] <ToRTuReD_X> just apt.xpi and browser.xpi
[02:43] <ToRTuReD_X> close the terminal?
[02:43] <sexcopter8000m> no, i think wget carries on in the background
[02:43] <thesamet> any other breezy user has firefox crashes today?
[02:43] <IIIEars> mpmc - !question_topic_item or  ubotu question_topic_item
[02:44] <Smof> thesamet, one
[02:44] <Dartsani> sex....try system monitor?
[02:44] <Smof> and one yesterday. they're the only times it's crashed for me
[02:44] <IIIEars> hm - irc swallows underlines
[02:44] <ToRTuReD_X> hmm
[02:44] <ToRTuReD_X> how do you update ubuntu
[02:44] <bimberi> ToRTuReD_X: I've only ever used xpi files by opening them in a mozilla app (firefox, thunderbird ...)
[02:45] <ToRTuReD_X> trying to remember the download command
[02:45] <ToRTuReD_X> lol
[02:45] <IIIEars> torsmo or gkrellem system monitors are worth a peak.
[02:45] <sexcopter8000m> Dartsani, yep, found it there
[02:45] <chrissturm> how can i configure how long urls are kept in the history in epiphany?
[02:45] <IIIEars> ToRTuReD_X, - there is a tool under admin tools
[02:46] <IIIEars> apt-get update
[02:46] <CapSoft> where can i get the wmv3 codec?
[02:46] <sorush21> guys how do you mount a .iso image with K3b or Gnome Baker
[02:47] <liran_> so uhm, any ideas how do i create video screenshots in ubuntu?
[02:47] <thesamet> smof, i read in the forums to downgrade libcairo back to 0.5.2. checking now
[02:48] <Dr_Fate> https://www.optionsxpress.com/#
[02:48] <Dr_Fate> THe tabs across the top of that page
[02:49] <Dr_Fate> 2 questions
[02:49] <Dr_Fate> does clikc on them result in anything for you in FF?
[02:49] <yccheok> any scilab user here?
[02:49] <Dr_Fate> and are you able to see the last tab  "help"?
[02:50] <jantan21> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:50] <jantan21> is only available from another source <<< why can't
[02:51] <jantan21> Package xmms has no installation candidate <<<warning
[02:51] <topyli> jantan21: xmms is in universe, which you don't seem to have enabled
[02:53] <jantan21> i can't install xmms
[02:54] <elsha> oh yes, rub it in my face bimberi :P
[02:54] <jantan21> i was try anything but i can't
[02:54] <chrissturm> do i need modules-restricted to get my logitech usb cam working?
[02:54] <Aloysius> help...anyone...i just used partition magic to resize my windows partition to give ubuntu more space and its fried my partition table i think....now when i boot pc its getting to where grub menu should pop up and dying
[02:54] <Ocid> ubotu: tell jantan21 about repos
[02:54] <bimberi> elsha: lol - not the intention i assure you :)
[02:54] <topyli> jantan21: sure you can
[02:55] <Smof> now, what is the command for creating a new directory?
[02:55] <Aloysius> is there a linux version of the windows FDISK -MBR????
[02:55] <Aloysius> mkdir
[02:55] <topyli> Aloysius: partition tables are hard to fix, especially if you don't have it backed up
[02:56] <topyli> Aloysius: grub-install
[02:56] <Aloysius> topyli: would it be possible to install ubuntu again over the top and retain all my settings?
[02:57] <Aloysius> topyli where should i grub-install? from the live cd or at boot on the install cd?
[02:57] <Smof> thankyou
[02:57] <topyli> Aloysius: if your /home is on a separate partition, and if the installer can read the partition table
[02:57] <topyli> Aloysius: live cd, boot floppy, just boot however you can
[02:57] <IIIEars> liran - this looks like a the app you want for DVD totem-xine   here is where it is dicussed. http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/wolves/2005-May/013841.html
[02:58] <topyli> Aloysius: and throw away partition magic :)
[02:58] <Aloysius> im booted in the live cd at moment...so if i drop into a term and run grub-install?
[02:58] <topyli> Aloysius: you need to chroot to your root partition
[02:58] <abhayks> aloysius: try
[02:58] <bimberi> Aloysius: this might help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:58] <Aloysius> topyli: yeh i agree now...have had years of use with it problem free...till today :(
[02:59] <topyli> phone ->
[02:59] <raven3x7> hello
[03:00] <IIIEars> Aloysius - gparted, qtparted or even dd
[03:00] <BiSK-8> hello
[03:00] <raven3x7> has anyone succeded in using the nvidia 6111 drivers wth hoary?
[03:00] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me if i order an iPod from america will it work on the italian usb lines?
[03:00] <mysticness> Wow, what a big channel. Biggest I've ever seen. :P
[03:00] <Dr_Fate> can someone check that link for me please?
[03:00] <topyli> Aloysius: but chrooting is going to be hard since you can't read the partition table
[03:01] <bimberi> mysticness: /join #debian
[03:01] <mysticness> Could I get a census of opinions? I'm a newbie to Linux, and while some people recommended Slackware for stability, they said Ubuntu would be the better route for a newbie like myself.
[03:01] <mysticness> Do you agree?
[03:01] <cosemek> I know it's not the right place, but can anyone help me out with connecting to IRC hrough telnet?
[03:02] <topyli> mysticness: obviously, many on this channel would agree :)
[03:02] <bimberi> mysticness: i would - but this is an interesting place to ask
[03:02] <topyli> mysticness: not all of them newbies either
[03:02] <elsha> cosemek, got irssi?
[03:02] <elsha> irssi <servername>
[03:02] <cosemek> elsha what's that?
[03:02] <IIIEars> mysticness - Sure, Ubuntu is the best. - If you need a little help make a direct connect and i?l walk you through the install! :)
[03:02] <elsha> type it in a telnet window and see if it works
[03:03] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me if there is itunes for ubuntu?
[03:03] <cosemek> nope
[03:03] <elsha> BiSK-8, yes
[03:03] <BiSK-8> and can i get it with apt-get?
[03:03] <mysticness> Does Ubuntu allow newbies to gain more knowledge as they use it? Thanks for the offer, Ears, but I don't have an installation CD yet. I'm ordering one from the site as soon as I figure out what the US's country code is...
[03:03] <elsha> cosemek: try irc <server>
[03:04] <topyli> mysticness: it hides nothing
[03:04] <mysticness> Awesome.
[03:04] <elsha> BiSK-8, i've only just installed ubuntu myself, but i have seen ipod features in music player
[03:04] <Aloysius> fingers crossed.... fdisk -l /dev/hda shows all my partitions are there...
[03:04] <IIIEars> mysticness. - it is pretty insulated from what runs under the hood.
[03:04] <raven3x7> anyone know why the 6111 nvidia drivers wont install?
[03:04] <topyli> IIIEars: it is?
[03:05] <bimberi> BiSK-8: there's also "gtkpod"
[03:05] <mysticness> One of my primary reasons for switching to Linux is to learn more about computers in general, so as long as I can get down and dirty with the OS when I decide I'm good enough, I'm fine.
[03:05] <IIIEars> topyli - a new user can use nothing but a gui for nearly everything.
[03:06] <topyli> IIIEars: of course. and another user may use a bunch of terminals :)
[03:06] <IIIEars> true ;)
[03:07] <mysticness> I've worked a little bit in DOS and other terminal programs like a MySQL server. Sure, it's not much experience, but every little bit counts to a newbie.
[03:07] <BiSK-8> ok
[03:07] <topyli> IIIEars: personally i treat ubuntu as a debian box
[03:07] <BiSK-8> thanks
[03:08] <BiSK-8> and bimberi or elsha, are the usb plugs universal? will it work here in italy if i order it from the us?
[03:08] <ToRTuReD_X> man
[03:08] <topyli> mysticness: you'll love the unix shells after dos. these shells you can actually do some stuff with :)
[03:08] <IIIEars> mysticness - great support. (500 users in this room)
[03:08] <ToRTuReD_X> i am so close to downloading debian and installing it
[03:09] <raven3x7> ToRTuReD_X, me too
[03:09] <mysticness> I'm not 100% familiar with what a shell is, but yeah; DOS is a pain. I expected it to be able to do a lot of things, since it's text based. But it's not all that useful, from my experiences.
[03:10] <IIIEars> ToRTuReD_X, - are you looking for a list of things ubotu knows?
[03:10] <mysticness> Good for formatting, though. ;] 
[03:10] <cosemek> mysticness, lol
[03:10] <godzirra_> Anyone have experience getting bootsplash to work nicely with ubuntu?
[03:10] <topyli> mysticness: basically, any interface is a shell (even the crappy dos command line)
[03:11] <raven3x7> is there a cheatcode to start ubuntu without udev?
[03:11] <godzirra_> Seveas: someone told me you did, but I dont think yuo're ever actually here? :)
[03:11] <raven3x7> like -noudev or smomething?
[03:11] <IIIEars> trouble is the syntax for windows terminals is ?pdated"seemingly whenever M$ has a whim.
[03:11] <topyli> mysticness: this is a multiuser multi-tasking OS. dos is a single-user non-multitaskin non-os :)
[03:11] <bimberi> BiSK-8: i'd be very suprised if it didn't work
[03:12] <BiSK-8> bimberi, for electrical equiptment u need an adaptor
[03:12] <BiSK-8> here
[03:12] <mysticness> Oh, so even an emulator could be considered a shell.
[03:12] <topyli> mysticness: its user interface could
[03:12] <raven3x7> !udev
[03:12] <ubotu> raven3x7: I don't know
[03:12] <bimberi> BiSK-8: yes indeed, but you were asking about usb
[03:12] <mysticness> Yeah, that's what I mean.
[03:12] <raven3x7> hmm
[03:12] <mysticness> It's 8 AM and I haven't had coffee yet
[03:12] <mysticness> x_x
[03:13] <liraz> Has anyone succesfully setup windows fonts? I have made my own specialised fonts.conf which works fine. BUT: firefox just refuses to use windows fonts on some sites(like ubuntuforums.org) and thunderbird decides that it wants AA turned on(without my permission and against fonts.conf!) what the heck is going on?
[03:13] <cosemek> it's 4 pm and i've slept for 10-12 hours.
[03:13] <BiSK-8> bimberi, yes, is it the same?
[03:13] <godzirra_> cosemek: I hate you. :p
[03:13] <mysticness> Thumbs up to you, cosemek.
[03:13] <topyli> mysticness: like the linux kernel might be an interesting piece of code, but it's not much fun without a user interface :)
[03:13] <godzirra_> Its 9am and I slept like 3.
[03:13] <liraz> cosemek, ya cosachta
[03:13] <godzirra_> :)
[03:13] <cosemek> godzirra_ :] 
[03:13] <mysticness> Nothing beats 12 hours of good sleep.
[03:13] <bimberi> it's 2313 and I'm about to go to sleep :)
[03:13] <topyli> or 12 cups of coffee
[03:14] <godzirra_> I'm off to work.
[03:14] <mysticness> Hm, can the GUI be hacked/edited to suit my tastes? Themes, if you will? I'm a pixel artist and eventually plan on creating my own themes/skins for whatever OS I move to.
[03:14] <IIIEars> topyli - everything larger than tmsrtbt floppy is - bloated. j/k
[03:15] <bimberi> BiSK-8: I can't give you an iron-clad guarantee but I'd be very very suprised if usb wasn't a universal standard
[03:15] <IIIEars> !themes
[03:15] <ubotu> hmm... themes is http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/
[03:15] <topyli> mysticness: if you can't find what you like from the 100 or so window managers and desktop environments, write your own :)
[03:15] <mysticness> Hmm, good point.
[03:15] <IIIEars> !gdm
[03:15] <ubotu> I don't know, IIIEars
[03:15] <topyli> and yes, most of them are themeable and configurable
[03:15] <IIIEars> ubotu amnesiac is you
[03:15] <ubotu> IIIEars: okay
[03:15] <LasseL> I just installed openbox. I am really amazed how fast it runs compared to metacity
[03:16] <nophix> mysticness: and it's open source, nuff said ;)
[03:16] <topyli> hack away!
[03:16] <mysticness> I've come to love open source.
[03:17] <mysticness> Now if only I had the skills to make use of its open-sourceness.
[03:17] <mysticness> :P
[03:17] <thenuke> now if I only could make love to open source
[03:17] <nophix> the skills are open source too
[03:17] <mysticness> I'm learning PHP, so I guess it's a start.
[03:17] <topyli> thenuke: it is
[03:17] <Andares> If only love were open source.
[03:17] <mysticness> 1000 years ago, it was
[03:17] <cosemek> Andares O_o
[03:17] <mysticness> Promiscuity and all.
[03:17] <IFRFLYR> Morning (or afternoon) all ; I'm trying to install Net::FTP and having troubl,e probably cause I'm completely ignorant of Perl but need it. I did perl -e shell MCPAN and install Net::FTP and got Not enough arguments on install. Can anyone  help?
[03:18] <Andares> Selecting previously deselected package 'love'.
[03:18] <Arnald> is there a known build prob with libavformat ATM? - avformat.h:214: error: nested redefinition of 'enum AVDiscard'
[03:18] <cosemek> BRB
[03:18] <Andares> ERROR: Unresolved Dependencies. (libhuman1, sex2.3.1-ubuntu1)
[03:18] <Arnald> sorry wrong tab ;)
[03:19] <nophix> who needs love, i have porn-get
[03:19] <cosemek> congrats
[03:19] <mysticness> :)
[03:19] <cosemek> though I just DL them
[03:19] <mysticness> I have a 20KB/s connection.
[03:19] <mysticness> So that's laughable.
[03:19] <cosemek> I have 200KB connection :D
[03:19] <mysticness> I don't have a CD burner, either.
[03:20] <cosemek> oh
[03:20] <cosemek> I got DVD-Burner :)
[03:20] <mysticness> This comp is 6 years old. I can't wait to get enough money to build a new one. This one's OEM, too.
[03:20] <cosemek> Mine is 4.5 years old..
[03:20] <topyli> Andares: liar :)
[03:20] <cosemek> the only thing ive upgraded is the dvd burner
[03:21] <Andares> >;o
[03:21] <priest> is it some kind of joke that 'open command line' is gone in the right-click-meny in new gnome? (in breeze)
[03:21] <IIIEars> ubotu xwindows is Linux freedom Style, User power, or RAM stingy speed Ubuntu linux is what you want it to be. http://xwinman.org/
[03:21] <ubotu> okay, IIIEars
[03:21] <mysticness> I'd upgrade this comp, but it's a Dell, and pretty much everything needs upgrading. It'd be cheaper(and nicer) to just buy all the stuff for a new one.
[03:21] <topyli> mysticness: the shipping is notoriously slow. could you get someone to burn the cd for you?
[03:22] <mysticness> My parents have a computer with a CD burner, but there's no way they'd keep a download dialog box open for that long.
[03:22] <mysticness> And I can't seem to get the network view to work on my side of the connection.
[03:22] <topyli> they're on modem as well?
[03:22] <mysticness> It's actually supposed to be DSL, but we're so far from the source that the speed just plain sucks.
[03:22] <elsha> has anyone ever had the problems of programs just not loading? i'm trying to open gnomemeeting, it appears as 'starting' on the panel, and the cursor is 'loading', but just nothing opens. and its not in the minimised section of the panel.
[03:23] <IIIEars> mysticness - try a net cafe or net game center.
[03:23] <mysticness> I live out in the boonies. :(
[03:23] <topyli> mysticness: time to teach them how to use download managers and dowload a bit at a time :)
[03:23] <topyli> like bittorrent
[03:23] <mysticness> Hmm..
[03:24] <LasseL> yeah get BT
[03:24] <topyli> unless they think it's criminal
[03:24] <LasseL> not any more criminal than ftp
[03:24] <bimberi> elsha: try running it from a terminal to see if there is an error
[03:24] <IIIEars> gozilla or getright for windows a pretty good (adware/nagware non-free)
[03:24] <topyli> LasseL: no it's not, but some people are brainwashed to think so
[03:24] <topyli> :(
[03:24] <mysticness> I dunno what they think. I just know that they won't keep a download open for very long. After an hour they'd probably get flustered.
[03:24] <elsha> no error
[03:25] <elsha> just goes to the next line, and doesn't open it
[03:25] <cosemek> BRB, switching to my linux
[03:25] <elsha> i've tried reinstalling it through the repository
[03:25] <mysticness> Hmm..
[03:25] <elsha> it just likes to break *smacks ubuntu around*
[03:25] <sorush20> guys how do I move to the root directory form terminal...
[03:26] <Dartsani> cd /
[03:26] <topyli> mysticness: it's the recommended download method
[03:26] <mysticness> Sweet.
[03:26] <topyli> cheaper on them :)
[03:27] <mysticness> i386.torrent for a Pentium 3, correct?
[03:27] <sorush20> sam@ubuntu:/root$ gzip d pavcl_linux_i386.tgz
[03:27] <sorush20> gzip: d: No such file or directory
[03:27] <sorush20> gzip: pavcl_linux_i386.tgz: No such file or directory
[03:27] <topyli> mysticness: yes
[03:27] <bimberi> elsha: try using dpkg with the -P switch to fully purge the package before reinstalling
[03:28] <elsha> err
[03:28] <bimberi> elsha: removes any config files
[03:28] <ToRTuReD_X> hmm
[03:28] <IIIEars> msticness - md5sum your file - md5summer or filelyzer (M$)
[03:28] <ToRTuReD_X> seriously contemplating going back to windows
[03:28] <elsha> okies
[03:28] <sorush20> guys I keep getting these errors
[03:28] <ToRTuReD_X> linux is good but i need to be able to dualboot
[03:28] <ToRTuReD_X> :/
[03:28] <topyli> ToRTuReD_X: you are
[03:28] <mysticness> md5sum? That's Latin to me. I know what an MD5 hash is, but I don't know what it's used for.
[03:29] <concept10> sorush20, you need to use sudo
[03:29] <elsha> sorush20, why are you in /root?
[03:29] <topyli> mysticness: to check that you have the same file that the server has, i.e. that the download was a success
[03:29] <IIIEars> ToRTuReD_X, - Do you have two drives installed on your macine? - poor mans grub would be to use the bios to exchange master drives on boot up.
[03:29] <elsha> you want to be in /, and you want to check if the file is actually there by typing ls | more
[03:29] <mysticness> How can I do that? I'm running Win98SE at the moment.
[03:30] <topyli> mysticness: go to nonags.com or someplace and get a checksum utility for windows
[03:31] <sorush20> I keep getting the same error..... and I'm in rout because the installation instruction on the panda website suggestedit... are you saying I can be in a directory... like on the desktop.... here is the error again with the sudo command....
[03:31] <sorush20> sam@ubuntu:/root$ sudo gzip d pavcl_linux_i386.tgz
[03:31] <sorush20> gzip: d: No such file or directory
[03:31] <sorush20> gzip: pavcl_linux_i386.tgz: No such file or directory
[03:31] <mysticness> Ah, okay. I have to find my BT client first, though.. o_O;
[03:31] <LasseL> ToRTuReD_X, my ubuntu set up dual booting automatically when I installed it
[03:31] <topyli> sorush20: so the file is not in /root
[03:31] <sorush20> topyil, yes it is in root
[03:31] <elsha> sorush20, obviously, the file isn't there. installation instructions "suggest" they dont know what your file management system is
[03:31] <elsha> no, it isn't in root
[03:31] <elsha> obviously
[03:32] <topyli> sorush20: verify with ls
[03:32] <topyli> sorush20: /root is root's home directory. the filesystem's root is /
[03:32] <mysticness> w00t, started my download. I'll go hunt that checksum utility.
[03:32] <jantan21> hi
[03:33] <mpmc> lol
[03:33] <topyli> mysticness: i get all my windows freeware from nonags, they're bound to have one
[03:33] <sorush20> I've pasted the ls output in the flood could you have a look .. the installations instructions are here http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/linux/instala.asp
[03:34] <echelon> hmm this is intresting.
[03:34] <topyli> sorush20: antivirus? are you running a mail server for windows clients?
[03:34] <echelon> You guys use XChat or terminal?
[03:34] <nightswim> irssi
[03:34] <derreck> XChat.
[03:34] <echelon> :D
[03:35] <Will_> irssi forever
[03:35] <noodle> xchat ><
[03:35] <arnonym> i dist-upgraded to breezy and now my firefox didn't show text anymore. the menu is just some underscores
[03:35] <topyli> echelon: xchat locally. now i'm about 500 miles away so i use irssi through ssh and screen :)
[03:35] <wezzer-> vote for irssi
[03:35] <mysticness> Is there a particular program I want to search for? I think I remember someone saying something about "md5summer"
[03:35] <Will_> I shell to an 'always up' server and irssi there
[03:35] <kostkon> xchat
[03:35] <Will_> I would run msn through it if I trusted bitlbee not to break
[03:35] <sorush20> topyli, no but I would like to be able to run scans ... once in a while on media....  downloaded... and files shared...
[03:35] <topyli> bitlbee would rule if it worked :(
[03:35] <mpmc> My Music sounds flat... wheres the boost?
[03:36] <topyli> sorush20: i'm not on #flood but you should be able to read ls output and check if the file is there or not
[03:37] <jantan21> can u share printer  windows to linux ubuntu
[03:37] <jantan21> can u help me share printer  windows to linux ubuntu
[03:37] <sorush20> the file is there.. but here is the error again.. sam@ubuntu:/root$ sudo tar xvf pavcl_linux_i386.tar
[03:37] <sorush20> tar: invalid option --
[03:37] <sorush20> Try `tar --help' for more information.
[03:37] <jantan21> not linux to windows
[03:37] <mysticness> Hm, SmartMD5 sounds pretty good.
[03:37] <jantan21> but windows to linux
[03:38] <echelon> can i make aliases and stuff through irssi?
[03:38] <topyli> jantan21: share it on windows, install the samba client on linux
[03:38] <incon> evenings
[03:38] <Will_> sorush20: so stop using '--'
[03:38] <incon> well its evenings for me
[03:38] <topyli> echelon: you can do more on irssi than one can learn in a lifetime :)
[03:38] <echelon> topyli: lol?
[03:38] <Will_> irssi can use perl. this means you can do ANYTHING
[03:38] <echelon> Will_: never known perl :( .
[03:38] <topyli> echelon: therefore, i use xchat whenever i can get an X display =)
[03:39] <incon> Will_, is open source so to can change it anyway you like :P so your plugins is not your only option
[03:39] <sorush20> will_, what do you meanso stop using '--'
[03:39] <mysticness> Crap..
[03:39] <echelon> im kinda into scripting and stuff lately, i wanna try and make a trivia bot :P
[03:40] <arnonym> sorush20: sudo tar xvf pavcl_linux_i386.tar
[03:41] <Will_> arnonym: Thank you.
[03:41] <arnonym> Will_: :-)
[03:41] <topyli> echelon: although xchat can run perl and python scripts too
[03:42] <topyli> echelon: the xchat text interface just sucks too much, so i use irssi on consoles
[03:42] <mysticness> No luck with Nonags.. I found the software, but the site I need to download from is apparently b0rked.
[03:42] <topyli> hrm.
[03:42] <incon> i only launch xchat to search channel lists :/ its the only reason i find this channel as it was the default setup
[03:42] <incon> otherwise i use irssi
[03:43] <topyli> incon: irssi doesn't search channels?
[03:43] <incon> topyli, not that i no of
[03:43] <topyli> incon: complain to cras :)
[03:43] <incon> lol
[03:43] <thenuke> well it does search channels
[03:43] <incon> if you type /list in irssi you get
[03:43] <thenuke> /help list
[03:43] <incon> 21:43 -!- Irssi: Doing this is not a good idea. Add -YES option to command if
[03:43] <incon>           you really mean it
[03:44] <char1iecha1k> can someone help me work arpwatch please
[03:44] <thenuke> "Thus, on IRCNet, you should rather use service ALIS (Advanced Listing Service), which will allow you to query for channel with specific name, topic, mode or usercount. Type /SQUERY ALIS HELP to get more info about it."
[03:44] <Will_> You don't need to paste this into the channel y'know..
[03:44] <topyli> incon: although i'm not sure he's very keen on developing irssi further. he's busy with dovecot and irssi2
[03:44] <sorush20> arnonym, thanks that worked... how do I run the program now.. can someone let me know... I have put the output on the flood..
[03:45] <incon> topyli, its not an issue for me
[03:45] <incon> i really use list
[03:45] <incon> rarely
[03:45] <topyli> generally i know which channels i want to join :)
[03:46] <mysticness> 22 mB on my Ubuntu download.
[03:46] <thenuke> I have never used list or anything :)
[03:46] <incon> topyli, the best solution is if all irc servers had a website to search the list online
[03:46] <mpmc> how do I change the x windows manager from kdm back to gdm?
[03:46] <thenuke> If I am interested in  linux I just type /join  linux =)
[03:46] <thenuke> and so on
[03:46] <njan> incon, isn't that what ircspy is for? :P
[03:46] <topyli> mysticness: that's not a bad speed. BT is faster than ftp most of the time
[03:46] <arnonym> sorush20: i cannot help you on this. i don't know "panda antivirus"
[03:46] <incon> ircspy ?
[03:46] <njan> http://www.ircspy.com/
[03:47] <incon> i dont want to cache a irc channel list just to search it
[03:47] <incon> its a waste of bandwidth
[03:47] <mpmc> ??
[03:47] <njan> actually, I think that ircspy is more about warez, but I'm sure there's another IRC search engine out there which lists channels and does stuff like that..
[03:47] <njan> incon, what you've described is what ircspy does.
[03:48] <topyli> there's probably a web search for any irc network
[03:48] <mpmc> How do I change the default windows manager?
[03:48] <njan> or $_other_irc_search_tool that I've forgotten about.
[03:48] <incon> njan, when i only want to like a server is doesnt cache ?
[03:48] <njan> http://searchirc.com/ <= that one.
[03:48] <elsha> hey bimberi, still around?
[03:48] <topyli> mpmc: take a look in /etc/defaults, and use update-alternatives to change your defaults
[03:49] <elsha> hmm, nevermind
[03:49] <topyli> mpmc: /etc/alternatives even
[03:49] <mpmc> thx for answering
[03:49] <incon> njan, nope
[03:49] <bimberi> too late
[03:49] <njan> incon, I have no idea what you said.
[03:49] <incon> i dont want by toipc i what by server
[03:49] <incon> irc server
[03:49] <tech> happy sysaddmin day.
[03:49] <echelon> anyone remember how can I leave notes? something like msgserv
[03:50] <bimberi> is Jul 29 sysadmin day?
[03:50] <incon> njan, i doesnt matter i dont care about it
[03:50] <Randall64> Megalomaniac Day!
[03:50] <bimberi> lol ... that's better
[03:51] <incon> njan, i'm sorry i'm drunk to only time i join new channels is when i have been drinking
[03:51] <arnonym> argh. there is a mozilla-firefox package (which doesn't work) and a firefox package (which does) in breezy when using universe
[03:51] <Poromies> bimberi: yes today is "Systemadmin Day" :)
[03:51] <char1iecha1k> anybody help me with arpwatch please
[03:51] <bimberi> heh ... oh well ... only 10 mins left :)
[03:51] <mpmc> Gah... I dont know how to change kdm back to gdm!
[03:51] <Will_> friends don't let friends irc drunk
[03:52] <mpmc> help
[03:53] <incon> cya's i will be back later maybe....
[03:54] <mpmc> How do I change back gdm as default :(
[03:54] <topyli> bimberi: you could celebrate sysadmin day in EEST and have more time to go :)
[03:54] <mpmc> anyone...  I aint got a clue!
[03:54] <topyli> mpmc: the same update-alternatives
[03:54] <mpmc> ehh?
[03:55] <topyli> mpmc: "update-alternatives x-display-manager" or something like that
[03:56] <Will_> wajig looks interesting
[03:56] <bimberi> mpmc: /etc/X11/default-display-manager looks promising - perhaps edit that
[03:56] <topyli> Will_: the downside is you forget most dpkg, apt and other switches :)
[03:56] <paulproteus|jhu> Will_, What's wajig?
[03:56] <se7enone> Why sometimes am I not able to open my cdroms either with the button or software eject?
[03:57] <topyli> se7enone: probably some shell or program has it as current working dir
[03:57] <mpmc> ok.. lets see
[03:57] <ethics> se7enone, use lsof or fuser to see whats got hold of the device when it happens
[03:58] <se7enone> thx
[03:58] <se7enone> how would i release it then...?
[03:58] <ethics> se7enone, also see if umount works...if it fails then the error may elude info...
[03:58] <sorush20> could anyone recommend an antivirus program please...
[03:59] <paulproteus|jhu> sorush20, there are no viruses [in the wild]  for Linux systems.
[03:59] <chorton> How can I change resolution in fluxbox?
[03:59] <paulproteus|jhu> The closest Linux has is worms, which you can avoid by not running vulnerable services.
[03:59] <topyli> se7enone: killing the process that is using the disc. umount -l might also work
[03:59] <paulproteus|jhu> sorush20, in other words, just watch the Software Update thing, and if it says to get any updates, get them.
[03:59] <MartenH> paulproteus: that anyone knows of ;)
[03:59] <paulproteus|jhu> MartenH, Well, okay.... :)
[03:59] <ethics> se7enone, theres a lazy unmount they say not to use for hard disks etc but dvds and cds shouldnt hurt too much....i think its umount -l  which will kill regardless of use\
[03:59] <sorush20> could anyone recommend an antivirus program please ...    what your saying that... no one on the planet has written a virus for linux....
[03:59] <paulproteus|jhu> In the wild.
[04:00] <ethics> sorush20, clamav
[04:00] <paulproteus|jhu> sorush20, There is clamav (and lots of GUIs), but that mostly looks for Windows and Mac viruses.
[04:00] <the--dud> hmm, autopackage fails for me :/
[04:00] <topyli> sorush20: i used to use f-secure but it's not free. really, you don't need one since you have no clients to protect
[04:00] <paulproteus|jhu> sorush20, There aren't really "viruses" on Windows or Mac anymore, either.
[04:00] <paulproteus|jhu> sorush20, Windows "viruses" in the news these days are all worms.
[04:00] <the--dud> well, actually not autopackage itself, but lincity-NG
[04:01] <ethics> just application exploits
[04:01] <paulproteus|jhu> They attack the computer either by tricking the user into opening emails, or they break into the computer remotely.
[04:01] <windex> hrm. no way to get ubuntu to use a promise fasttrak 100 is there?
[04:01] <paulproteus|jhu> windex, I think mine worked out of the box.
[04:01] <paulproteus|jhu> sorush20, On Linux, it's so much work to make a program executable that the first one wouldn't work against users.  And to get hacked remotely, you'd have to ignore Software Update.
[04:01] <sorush20> what about a firewall... I'm trying to enable the port 110, can someone recommend  something..
[04:01] <ethics> windex yeah im pretty sure there is\
[04:01] <windex> paulproteus|jhu: the partitioner hangs at 58% :)
[04:02] <paulproteus|jhu> windex, Oh, that's sad.
[04:02] <echelon> what package I need to install perl?
[04:02] <windex> it also detects the drives on it as 2 seperate disks.
[04:02] <paulproteus|jhu> windex, Are you trying to do hardware RAID?
[04:02] <topyli> sorush20: if you install a ftp server, ubuntu will likely open the port
[04:02] <topyli> sorush20: same with other services
[04:02] <elsha> is it possible to have incorrect drivers installed for a webcam, and yet have it still work in xawtv?
[04:02] <windex> paulproteus|jhu: well, the windows install on the machine uses it for hardware raid . . . as does the freebsd install? :P
[04:03] <ethics> sorush20, iptables is your firewall,  tools like firestarter and bastille etc are guis for setting it up ...
[04:03] <paulproteus|jhu> windex, In general, Linux support for hardware raid is weak; Linux driver delopers usually claim that most consumer-grade hardware doesn't do good RAID, so they prefer the Linux software RAID layer.
[04:03] <echelon> what package I need to install perl?
[04:03] <paulproteus|jhu> I think they're telling the truth, but I don't know for *sure*...
[04:03] <paulproteus|jhu> sorush20, You don't have to "enable the port 110".
[04:03] <paulproteus|jhu> If you set up a service there, you'll be listening on that port.
[04:03] <windex> paulproteus|jhu: the problem is that windows and linux can not coexist on the same hardware in that configuration. :P
[04:03] <ddink> have a problem, programs just close
[04:04] <drcode> hi all
[04:04] <drcode> can I share dir with ssh ?
[04:04] <paulproteus|jhu> windex, Why not?  Just make two partitions in the same place on both drives; have Linux do software RAID between tohse two.
[04:04] <drcode> If I have two linux , who I can share dirs?
[04:04] <paulproteus|jhu> drcode, Sure.  If you want to download files from your computer by SCP from Windows, use WinSCP; on Mac, use Fugu.
[04:04] <Gentil> hi
[04:04] <paulproteus|jhu> drcode, If you have two Linux machines on the same (private) network, you'll find NFS is easier.
[04:05] <windex> paulproteus|jhu: this motherboard only has the raid controller, no normal IDE, windows sees it as a raid controller, and it's configured as raid 0 (striped).
[04:05] <chn> god damn apache
[04:05] <paulproteus|jhu> windex, RAID 0?
[04:05] <drcode> NFS
[04:05] <drcode> thanx
[04:05] <paulproteus|jhu> That's not RAID :)
[04:05] <windex> i know.
[04:05] <drcode> is there info how to do it easy?
[04:05] <windex> but its fast. :D
[04:05] <unreal> hmm
[04:05] <chn> why doesnt it set up php4 automagically why i install php4
[04:05] <paulproteus|jhu> windex, That's true.  Sounds nice. :)
[04:06] <paulproteus|jhu> As for making them coexist, I'm not really sure.  I should get back to doing work :)
[04:06] <mpmc> How do I reset the fonts?
[04:06] <unreal> what's the name of one of those web-administration services? (not cpanel, there's a better one)
[04:06] <paulproteus|jhu> unreal, webmin?
[04:06] <unreal> heh
[04:06] <windex> promise provides drivers. is there a way to load drivers into the install for ubuntu without freaking it out?
[04:06] <unreal> could be :/
[04:06] <black13> is possible to rebuild the debian deb packages ... there is obviously a way to build the packages correct?
[04:07] <unreal> paulproteous: it allows the changing of dns records for domain names and such
[04:07] <paulproteus|jhu> black13, dpkg-buildpackage or somesuch.
[04:07] <unreal> doesn't seem to be webmin
[04:08] <elsha> is it possible to have incorrect drivers installed for a webcam, and yet have it still work in xawtv?
[04:08] <chorton> How can I change resolution in fluxbox?
[04:08] <black13> paulproteus|jhu ok
[04:08] <sorush20> topyli, paulproteus|jhu, what service can I install using synaptic
[04:09] <paulproteus|jhu> apache, postfix, dovecot, courier-imap, vsftpd, ...
[04:09] <IIIEars> chorton xrand 800x600 - check man pages it? been awhile
[04:10] <MartenH> Does someone have time to help me set up the icon theme found here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22989 in a working way?
[04:10] <sorush20> paulproteus|jhu: the reason I ask is that I'm running thunderbird with the webmail extension... and on the extension I get an error that says that the port is not running... this is not the case in root login .... but I don't want to run the computer in root login.... could you help with activating the port 110
[04:11] <chorton> IIlEars, that command doesn't exist, says the console.
[04:11] <fh> ubuntu is the best
[04:11] <phixion> ...
[04:11] <fh> when does breezy come to play?
[04:12] <PrimoTurbo> Hey guys can someone help me with something?
[04:12] <fh> when does breezy come uot?
[04:13] <fh> when does breezy come out?
[04:13] <PrimoTurbo> I'm in /usr/share/wallpapers/ and I want to delete some wallpapers
[04:13] <PrimoTurbo> but it wont let me because I don't have root
[04:13] <phixion> do it from terminal
[04:13] <fh> rm
[04:13] <PrimoTurbo> how do I get root and delete the wallpapers I don't want?
[04:13] <dawnfading> sudo su
[04:13] <phixion> rm /usr/share/wallpapers/filename.jpg
[04:13] <fh> rm *.png *.jpg
[04:13] <PrimoTurbo> I see
[04:13] <phixion> sudo before the rm
[04:13] <phixion> :E
[04:13] <PrimoTurbo> alright thnx I'll give it a try
[04:14] <dawnfading> btw, does somebody know a command to find out from which path a script or executable is executed?
[04:14] <fh> k
[04:14] <chorton> IIlEars, that command doesn't exist, says the console.
[04:14] <mpmc> how to i reset the fonts?
[04:14] <fh> like wtf?
[04:14] <arnonym> dawnfading: which
[04:14] <fh> what command?
[04:15] <b0ca0FF> hi all
[04:15] <b0ca0FF> help-me pls
[04:15] <fh> chorton what command?
[04:15] <dawnfading> so suppose it's a compiled c prog, then just which prog?
[04:15] <fh> b0ca0FF ok
[04:15] <fh> b0ca0FF what is the problem
[04:15] <fh> ?
[04:15] <arnonym> dawnfading: yes.
[04:16] <PrimoTurbo> Alright it worked. Thanks guys :)
[04:16] <graabein> hi guys. anyone know how to modify themes? i want to change the colour of the active window border
[04:16] <dawnfading> hmm, doesn't return anything at all
[04:16] <BR-b0ca0> install all system of ubuntu fh
[04:16] <graabein> i've done it once before but i can't remember how. some xml-file somewhere
 it's easy man
[04:16] <chorton> The command to change resolutions in X.
[04:16] <Dartsani> dawnfading......System-Preferences-Themes
[04:16] <arnonym> dawnfading: your executable is not in the path
 insert the cd
[04:16] <BR-b0ca0> but initializing ths system
[04:16] <chorton> He said to use xrand 800x600
[04:17] <chorton> And that command doesn't exist.
 and reset the computer and then you got some questions you need to answer
[04:17] <Dartsani> graabein i meant :P
[04:17] <arnonym> chorton: it's xrandr
[04:17] <dawnfading> okay, that makes sense anonym
[04:17] <chorton> Ah.
[04:17] <BR-b0ca0> fh i'm back
[04:17] <chorton> *tries*
[04:17] <BR-b0ca0> wait
[04:17] <dawnfading> too many shells open, and my path wasn't changed in the one i was working with
[04:17] <dawnfading> thanks
[04:18] <graabein> Dartsani, yeah i know, but i have the h20oridium window border with amber buttons... and i want to change the gray color to brown
[04:18] <PrimoTurbo> Hey guys where can I get some good linux wallpapers
 ok... i am waiting...
[04:18] <dawnfading> pixelgirl
[04:18] <PrimoTurbo> url?
[04:18] <dawnfading> google it
[04:18] <dawnfading> first link
[04:18] <black13> what is evms
[04:18] <PrimoTurbo> k
[04:19] <PrimoTurbo> thnx
[04:19] <graabein> PrimoTurbo, i've tried pixelgirl. lots of good stuff there
[04:19] <dawnfading> not particular linux but still good
[04:19] <holycow> PrimoTurbo, the same places you get them for windows
[04:19] <holycow> its just an image
[04:19] <PrimoTurbo> yup, exactly what I'm looking for
[04:19] <dawnfading> http://www.littlefactory.com/lf.html
[04:19] <fh> who's from israel down here?
[04:19] <graabein> there was a thread in ubuntu forums with some nice links
[04:19] <dawnfading> has some really good backgrounds
[04:19] <dawnfading> they're tiled but quite unique
[04:20] <PrimoTurbo> I'll check ubuntu forums also
[04:20] <PrimoTurbo> anyone else using kubuntu?
[04:20] <graabein> PrimoTurbo, search for "pixelgirl" in the forums. it will probably show up. gnome all the way here
 no
[04:20] <phixion> I'm using http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=27077&PHPSESSID=66e7495b80abd31b04744662f4c89b38 atm :) nice wallpapers
 i *love* gnome
[04:20] <elsha> #kubuntu
[04:20] <|rockinnerd|> i've got a problem
[04:20] <phixion> gnome here too :E
[04:20] <|rockinnerd|> with alsa
[04:21] <PrimoTurbo> I like gnome too but I'm just trying KDE and I like it also
[04:21] <|rockinnerd|> i try playing an mp3, or any other sound, and i hear a high-pitched squeaking in the background, suggestions?
[04:21] <chorton> arnonym, thanks for the tip.
[04:21] <chorton> Do you know a command to restart the x server?
[04:21] <phixion> ctrl alt backspace
[04:21] <arnonym> chorton: ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:22] <shawarma> LOL
[04:22] <arnonym> works :-)
[04:22] <phixion> :D
[04:22] <ethics> |rockinnerd|, alsa project docs and google first
[04:22] <gyaresu_> exit
[04:22] <fh>   ???????????
[04:23] <graabein> what app do you guys use for xml-files?
[04:23] <|rockinnerd|> what do you mean "use for xml-files"?
[04:23] <chorton> I want you all to know you are my heroes.
[04:23] <graabein> when you open a xml file for editing. syntax highlighting etc
[04:24] <|rockinnerd|> quanta maybe?
[04:24] <python_> graabein Jedit good
[04:24] <|rockinnerd|> actually, maybe kate, b/c it does syntax coloring
[04:24] <gyaresu> meh. hello.
[04:24] <graabein> it would be nice if it had an option for checking the file vs schema def also...
[04:25] <gyaresu> friend used patition magic and killed his GRUB. anyone remember the process of fixing it?
[04:25] <gyaresu> and good-evening (of course)
[04:25] <phend> hi all. I've got some code which does this: tal:attributes="href python: here.absolute_url()+'?set_status=1 -- but i'm trying to figure out where to put code which acts upon the value passed in set_status
[04:26] <phend> ie. where so I look through the query string, and call a method depending on the value?
[04:27] <|rockinnerd|> gyaresu, boot offof a knoppix cd, mount your root partition, and chroot into your mount point for your root partition. Run /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda
[04:27] <|rockinnerd|> or sda if it's serial
[04:27] <|rockinnerd|> drive
[04:27] <graabein> i opened the file in bluefish. looks allright.
[04:27] <gyaresu> |rockinnerd|, aye. thanks.
[04:27] <|rockinnerd|> np
[04:28] <|rockinnerd|> good morning all who are in the US
[04:28] <graabein> hmmm... looks like i have to edit some png-files to change colour of title-bar in h20ridium
[04:29] <billyanachronism> hey :S
[04:29] <billyanachronism> I did something silly
[04:29] <paulproteus|jhu> |rockinnerd|, Good morning.
[04:30] <thespiritoftal> whenever I open amule it says my 4662nd port is not open and I get LOWID how can i fix this problem?
[04:30] <BR-b0ca0> fh error: "fatal error, hutplup subsystem, modprobe operation not permitid"
[04:30] <graabein> i'm from norway. just got home from work. the weekend starts here!
[04:30] <shawarma> Doesn anyone know when jbailey usually shows up?
[04:30] <BR-b0ca0> this error in initializing my system ubuntu warty whartog"
[04:30] <BR-b0ca0> fh error: "fatal error, hutplup subsystem, modprobe operation not permitid"
[04:30] <BR-b0ca0> this error in initializing my system ubuntu warty whartog"
[04:31] <|rockinnerd|> so there is no coldplug daemon in ubuntu?
[04:31] <PrimoTurbo> found a sweet earth wallpaper
[04:31] <PrimoTurbo> http://images.customize.org/category/wallpaper/EarthView1-2_full.gif
[04:33] <BR-b0ca0> help-me
[04:33] <BR-b0ca0> this error in initializing my system ubuntu warty whartog
[04:33] <fh> ok
[04:33] <BR-b0ca0> this error in initializing my system ubuntu warty whartog"
[04:33] <billyanachronism> I changed yaboot.conf
[04:33] <graabein> the xml-file looks good in the default text editor gedit also
[04:33] <gyaresu> BR-b0ca0, ?
[04:33] <billyanachronism> to have a timeout of 5 seconds
[04:33] <thespiritoftal> whenever I open amule it says my 4662nd port is not open and I get LOWID how can i fix this problem?
[04:33] <billyanachronism> and now I can't get into ubuntu :(
[04:33] <supernix> hiya gang
[04:33] <fh> why won't you try hoary??
[04:33] <fh> why won't you try hoary??
 why won't you try hoary??
[04:34] <supernix> anyone know of a program that can create secure passwords as well as store them ?
[04:34] <BR-b0ca0> fh $$
[04:34] <gyaresu> fh, BR-b0ca0 fh this ones yours yes?
[04:34] <fh> what?
[04:34] <gyaresu> fh, : the problem.
[04:34] <BR-b0ca0> money
[04:34] <BR-b0ca0> o dont buy to cd hoary
[04:35] <fh> download it
[04:35] <supernix> anyone know of a program that can create secure passwords as well as store them ?
[04:35] <gyaresu> fh k. ignore me.
[04:35] <gyaresu> BR-b0ca0, are you on dialup?
 ok.. now to ignore?
[04:35] <BR-b0ca0> no
[04:35] <BR-b0ca0> adsl 1mg
[04:35] <gyaresu> fh, yes.
[04:36] <fh> ok
[04:36] <znh> I've made a bash script, but I'd like to let it be ran every hour - Is that possible?
[04:36] <fh> i'm ignoring...
[04:36] <gyaresu> BR-b0ca0, prefix your comments with the name of the person you talk to and 'get hoary'.
[04:36] <elwood> hi
[04:36] <BR-b0ca0> i only resolv this problem
[04:37] <arnonym> znh: create a cron job
[04:37] <gyaresu> fh thank you.
 for?
[04:37] <BR-b0ca0> "fatal error: hotplug subsystem.... modprobe, operation not permited
[04:37] <gyaresu> fh the ignoring (sarcasm)
[04:37] <BR-b0ca0> why this
[04:37] <znh> arnonym: aha, so it is possible! is there a full name for it? then i'll search some manual myself
 i realy don't know what you wanna
[04:37] <gyaresu> fh (with smiles)
 tell me plz
[04:37] <gyaresu> fh (nothing)
[04:37] <fh> ok
[04:38] <gyaresu> fh (just joking)
[04:38] <fh> werdoo
[04:38] <fh> ok
[04:38] <arnonym> znh: "man cron" and take a look in /etc/cron.d
[04:38] <gyaresu> BR-b0ca0, need to 'sudo' to modprobe
[04:38] <fh> breezy go out when?
[04:39] <BR-b0ca0> gyaresu ?
[04:39] <fh> 10.**?
[04:39] <znh> arnonym: ah I see you already found for me, thanks! - you we're great
 listen man, download the new hoary
[04:39] <BR-b0ca0> ok fh
 and install it
[04:39] <elwood> happy ubuntu to meee
 and then use windows(just kiding)
[04:39] <BR-b0ca0> fh thanx
[04:40] <fh> np
[04:40] <fh> someone here heard about the windows vista?
[04:40] <windex> longhorn?
[04:40] <fh> the beta is got out
[04:40] <fh> yea
[04:41] <fh> vista
[04:41] <znh> arnonym: I still don't know how it works and what I have to do in cron.d
[04:41] <ToRTuReD_X> 2 hours left till i have kubuntu
[04:41] <ToRTuReD_X> :/
[04:41] <fh> :\
[04:41] <ToRTuReD_X> hmm
[04:41] <windex> same thing. i doubt they will be able to use vista as they've now got 3 lawsuits against them for trademark infringement.
[04:41] <ToRTuReD_X> gona format and dualboot
[04:41] <fh> gnome rules man
 yea
[04:41] <ToRTuReD_X> fh - tip: keep away from slackware based distros
[04:42] <ToRTuReD_X> ie - vector linux
[04:42] <arnonym> znh: for the syntax you should read "man 5 crontab"
[04:42] <znh> arnonym: thanks
 i know slackware sucks
[04:42] <ToRTuReD_X> it starts automatically in console/termainal mode
[04:42] <ToRTuReD_X> you have to input commands for graphical mode
 i know slackware sucks
[04:42] <Silentsol> ToRTuReD_X: why keep away from slackware based distros?
[04:42] <Silentsol> ToRTuReD_X: im on minislack
[04:42] <ToRTuReD_X> ;/
 pure guy
[04:42] <ToRTuReD_X> woot
[04:42] <windex> slackware has a valid audience.
[04:43] <ToRTuReD_X> 1 week and i should have a $600+ a week job
[04:43] <ToRTuReD_X> :D
[04:43] <znh> kopete is too slow for irc, bye changing client
[04:43] <ToRTuReD_X> slackware is not for the inexperienced or intermediate user
[04:43] <ToRTuReD_X> it's for the 4+ years advanced user
 you install kubuntu?
[04:43] <Silentsol> ToRTuReD_X: ive been using linux for 2 weeks
[04:43] <ToRTuReD_X> nah man, downloading now
[04:43] <Silentsol> ToRTuReD_X: my first ever experience with linux has been with minislack. 2 weeks ago
[04:43] <ToRTuReD_X> i wanna see some screencaps of it though
[04:44] <ToRTuReD_X> :/
 so let me tell you something...
 GNOME PWZ you all!!!!!!!
[04:44] <fh> lol
[04:44] <ToRTuReD_X> lmao
[04:44] <ToRTuReD_X> i know man
[04:44] <ToRTuReD_X> i was on ubuntu
[04:44] <fh> yea yea
[04:44] <chn> i guess well see when longhorn comes out
[04:44] <ToRTuReD_X> but decided to put in a command for the graphics drivers that crashed the GUI
[04:44] <phixion> when it comes out? its out :P
[04:44] <ToRTuReD_X> so i had to format then grub wouldn't install off my install disc
[04:44] <ToRTuReD_X> :/
[04:45] <phixion> well, only beta
[04:45] <chn> phixion, the final
[04:45] <phixion> Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Codename.Longhorn.Beta.1.64Bit.DVD.READ.NFO
[04:45] <phixion> :E
 blat
[04:45] <ToRTuReD_X> nforce.nl mofo
[04:45] <ToRTuReD_X> :D
[04:45] <chn> im trying to get the beta to see what linux is up against
[04:45] <phixion> mope
[04:45] <phixion> nope :P
 too much info
[04:45] <fh> :)
[04:45] <sorush20> anyone here using KDAR
[04:45] <phixion> and its windows vista
[04:45] <phixion> not longhorn :D
[04:45] <the--dud> I'm writing a howto on installing lincity-ng from source now, anyone interested to test it out when I'm done?
[04:45] <gyaresu> your windows is weak
[04:45] <the--dud> 'beta-tester' if you'd like hehe
[04:46] <elwood> the--dud, lincitythe game?
[04:46] <dawnfading> exit
[04:46] <vader1102> morning everone
[04:46] <ToRTuReD_X> the--dud,  if you include a guide to set it up, AND install wine and steam then i will
 so take him to the gim
[04:46] <ToRTuReD_X> :D
[04:46] <the--dud> elwood, yeah, the remake of lincity
[04:46] <ToRTuReD_X> wait
[04:46] <elwood> the--dud, i can
[04:46] <the--dud> ToRTuReD_X, its linux native
[04:46] <ToRTuReD_X> lincity
[04:46] <ToRTuReD_X> lmao
[04:46] <ToRTuReD_X> sounds liek a distro name
[04:46] <windex> i'm a microsoft registered partner. vista/longhorn is not all that impressive to me over XP.
[04:46] <ToRTuReD_X> ;/
[04:46] <the--dud> message me anyone interested, too much chatting here hehe
[04:46] <chn> phixion, yea, just when you thought xp was a lame and overhyped name
[04:47] <elwood> uhm where i can find longhorn?
[04:47] <phixion> its xp with a lame ass theme :)
[04:47] <gyaresu> fh 'the gim'?
[04:47] <the--dud> there's a sleazy bar in my town called Vista
[04:47] <ToRTuReD_X> someone make a good guide for wine and steam
[04:47] <chn> elwood, diverse bt sites
[04:47] <ToRTuReD_X> :/
[04:47] <sorush20> could someone help me with an installation error....
[04:47] <the--dud> i suppose mr bill gates never knew that!
[04:47] <elwood> the--dud, u have to get sources compile and play?
[04:47] <vader1102> windex: I have heard through the grapevine that the sys req. is really high for longhorn
[04:47] <ph8> lo all
[04:47] <ph8> i'm runnig hoary
[04:47] <ph8> is there like an unstable branch?
[04:47] <the--dud> elwood, just testing it out myself now... autopackage install seems not to work
[04:47] <chn> vader1102, its faster than xp
[04:47] <ph8> or does ubuntu not work like that?
[04:47] <the--dud> so yeah, sources it is
 nvm
[04:47] <chn> they say it is at least
[04:47] <elwood> the--dud, i can be a tester :)
[04:47] <gyaresu> fh k
[04:48] <windex> vader1102: you know all that crap in XP that uses CPU to make it look pretty? fading menus in and out? etc? there's more of that crap in longhorn and it's harder to disable all of it.
[04:48] <chn> but everyone claims it runs better than xp
[04:48] <arnonym> ph8:  there is breezy
[04:48] <ph8> beta?
[04:48] <arnonym> ph8: pre-alpha
[04:48] <ToRTuReD_X> i think i'll hold off on linux for a while
[04:48] <ph8> don't fancy that :p
[04:48] <fh> breezy doesn't got X
[04:48] <phixion> what are you running atm ToRTuReD_X ?
[04:48] <ph8> anything bad about using the universe sources for hoary-security and main?
[04:48] <ToRTuReD_X> till i can afford to buy a cheap linux box and install it as a network server
[04:48] <ToRTuReD_X> :P
[04:49] <ToRTuReD_X> right now phixion i'm using Vector Linux
[04:49] <the--dud> not to mention Vista will have DRM far up your rectum
[04:49] <ToRTuReD_X> was using Ubuntu 5.04
[04:49] <phixion> o_O
[04:49] <vader1102> I am going to stay away from it but I will have to learn it because I am a pc consultant in my area and you know the writers for all of these viruses, they will keep me busy lol
[04:49] <phixion> never heard of it
[04:49] <gyaresu> XP == $220AU with a HDD or CPU
[04:49] <phixion> url?
[04:49] <ToRTuReD_X> and Windows XP Service Pack 2 before that
[04:49] <vader1102> I am using Hoary right now lol
[04:49] <the--dud> the wonders up the microsoft/intel DRM services
[04:49] <ToRTuReD_X> www.vectorlinux.com
[04:49] <windex> ToRTuReD_X: k, i am not a linux on the desktop guy, for business anyway, until i installed ubuntu and got it working. ubuntu easially provides a stable business desktop enviroment, and it has enough utilities to provide a home system, with the noted lack of off the shelf software.
[04:50] <ToRTuReD_X> not half bad
[04:50] <phixion> what's vector linux like?
[04:50] <ToRTuReD_X> but not for the newb
[04:50] <ToRTuReD_X> so i'm gonna change
[04:50] <chn> windex, well theres a long way left
[04:50] <ToRTuReD_X> it's good but doesn't come with alot of packages
[04:50] <fh> ToRTuReD_X it's like a distro
[04:50] <justizz> Hi! Could someone "pro" tell me how to remove Grub-loader?
[04:50] <chn> personally id think theres many distros way closed to being a desktop linux
[04:50] <justizz> on ubuntu
[04:50] <chn> most of them are just to anal
[04:51] <chn> i hate rpm distros
 why?
 why to remove grub?
[04:51] <windex> chn: that's true, but i can go take hoary, install it on a business desktop, and have it work for people who need office/web/mail in business.
[04:51] <justizz> my friend installed ubuntu to harddisk which isnt his own ;)
[04:51] <Whistler> justizz just use fix mbr
[04:51] <billyanachronism> hey hey dudes
[04:51] <davro> Hi are there any good howto's on setting a ubuntu as a home dhcp cablebox come firewall, using two network cards, kinda like smoothwall?.
 ok, sudo apt-get remove grub (i think)
[04:51] <justizz> how does it work?
[04:51] <billyanachronism> what do I do to fix this problem eyy
[04:51] <vader1102> chn: I here that the RPM doesn't allways get all of the "other stuff" you need, like dependancies
[04:51] <echelon> hmm i've started learning perl.
[04:51] <justizz> ok
[04:51] <windex> chn: and it seems to work pretty well on Dell n-series machines (n-series = no OS), and since i'm a dell reseller ... :)
[04:51] <ToRTuReD_X> well
[04:51] <billyanachronism> I put the timeout of 5 seconds on yaboot
[04:52] <echelon> How can I make perl scripts run in irssi or whatsoever?
[04:52] <justizz> ill try :P
[04:52] <ToRTuReD_X> what i plan to do is install windows again
[04:52] <billyanachronism> so I can't actually get to linux before it goes to mac os x
[04:52] <elwood> longhorn smeel as macox
[04:52] <chn> ubuntu needs a gfx installer
[04:52] <ToRTuReD_X> maybe dualboot linux for php and python
[04:52] <ToRTuReD_X> i'll see what happens
 luck
[04:52] <chn> nad some shine new crap that seperates it from the herd
[04:52] <the--dud> iconv
[04:52] <chn> and
[04:52] <jantan21> hi all
[04:52] <fh> hi
[04:52] <fh> sup joni?
[04:52] <jantan21> where is download xmms ?
[04:52] <thespiritoftal> how can i view hidden directories in /home/user?
[04:53] <jantan21> do you now?
 you get xmms with ubuntu
[04:53] <davro> ls -a
[04:53] <elwood> have you ever tried winxpe?
[04:53] <jantan21> where is location ?
[04:53] <vader1102> elwood: yes I have, I use it @ the office 6 days a week
[04:54] <jantan21> fh :where is location ?
[04:54] <crimsun> jantan21: use Synaptic or aptitude/apt-get/dselect to search for and install XMMS. The package name is 'xmms'.
 applicasions (on top)
[04:54] <elwood> it's useful...live windows live problems :)
 i think he got xmms with install
[04:54] <phixion>  ToRTuReD_X why do you plan on reinstalling windows?
[04:55] <vader1102> I would rather use the knoppix or the ubuntu live cd's they really allow you to examine what has gone wrong
[04:55] <gyaresu> tell jantan21 about !sources
[04:55] <gyaresu> !sources
[04:55] <ubotu> from memory, sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:55] <phixion> haha
[04:55] <phixion> owned!
[04:55] <mtron> problems with mounting my 3rd gen ipod. whwen i connect it via firewire it does not go into disk mode. how can i reload the necessary modules?
[04:55] <tech> any using kubuntu here?
 lol
[04:55] <crimsun> tech: there's #kubuntu, too
[04:55] <python_> nope GNOME rocks
[04:56] <ToRTuReD_X> phixion,  i need it for steam, and for my websites
 owneage!
[04:56] <elwood> yes gnome and pam usb :)
[04:56] <ToRTuReD_X> photoshop
[04:56] <ToRTuReD_X> i'm lost without it
[04:56] <ToRTuReD_X> ;_;
[04:56] <elwood> ToRTuReD_X,  and gimp?
[04:56] <ToRTuReD_X> ewww
[04:56] <IIIEars> Good Morning crimsun :)
[04:56] <ToRTuReD_X> worst image editor i've ever tried
 sudo apt-get install gimp
[04:57] <ToRTuReD_X> and i've used paintshop pro
 :\
[04:57] <CarlFK> can the bluetooth code for freebsd be compiled for linux, or does it need to be ported/rewritten?
[04:57] <python_> Tortured use the GIMP
 windows than?
[04:57] <ToRTuReD_X> lmao
[04:57] <ToRTuReD_X> indeed
[04:57] <ToRTuReD_X> unless i can find and install VMware
 or use wine
[04:58] <ToRTuReD_X> tried to install
[04:58] <ToRTuReD_X> damn near impossible
[04:58] <ToRTuReD_X> it hates me :(
[04:58] <python_> GIMP is Great
[04:58] <python_> Ive used photoshop two and GIMP does what photoshop does
[04:58] <python_> just have to use it a bit
 me too man, me too.
[04:58] <ToRTuReD_X> python_,  i will bitchslap you so hard gangis kahn will fell it and say wtf was that?
[04:59] <phixion> im more familiar with ps cs2
[04:59] <windex> or install that program that renames gimp's features to look exactally like photoshop
[04:59] <ToRTuReD_X> phixion, same here
[04:59] <python_> I disagree, you just dont wanna learn new programs
[04:59] <virtuel> gimpshop
[04:59] <ToRTuReD_X> is what i use
 try to read some guides about gimp and you love it
[04:59] <ToRTuReD_X> i miss my baby
[04:59] <ToRTuReD_X> :(
[04:59] <python_> gimp is open source
[04:59] <ToRTuReD_X> so is warez
[04:59] <ToRTuReD_X> LMFAO
[04:59] <ToRTuReD_X> <_<
[04:59] <phixion> open source doesnt make any difference :P
[04:59] <virtuel> let's face it: gimp is just no match for photoshop for professionals
[05:00] <ToRTuReD_X> you didn't see that
[05:00] <phixion> ps cs2 is the most superior image editor
[05:00] <sandis> tortured: warez!=oss
[05:00] <python_> the whole point of linux is open source!!
 yes it  does
 it's open
[05:00] <chn> mmmn
[05:00] <phixion> sigh
[05:00] <vader1102> I am starting to use Inkscape a little bit, so far so good
[05:00] <windex> gimp is substantially less broken than print types like to say it is. the only real issue that remains with gimp is no native cmyk but they're trying to fix that. considering most print work is done by supplying pantone colors and using distinct colors to map regions, anyway, though...
[05:00] <phixion> if you are used to cs2, and u know how to use it ALOT better than gimp
[05:00] <virtuel> python_, for some, maybe. for me the point of linux is having something that "just works"
[05:00] <phixion> i dont see why open source would make ANY difference
[05:00] <ToRTuReD_X> python_, tell that to suse and redhat
[05:00] <ToRTuReD_X> damn bastards
[05:00] <CarlFK> what is  ps cs2 ?
[05:01] <Demostrike> Ahh can anyone explain to me why ubuntu has no "build" directory
[05:01] <crimsun> (topic's straying pretty far off-topic)
[05:01] <ToRTuReD_X> photoshop cs2
[05:01] <tritium> Demostrike, for what?
[05:01] <ToRTuReD_X> photoshop creative suite 2
[05:01] <jowi> a user can mount cdrom but not samba shares. what to do?
[05:01] <vader1102> hey tritium, how are you today?
 cuz you can change the open source and it's free and more powerfull
[05:01] <CarlFK> thanks
[05:01] <tritium> vader1102, not bad, you?  The movers are here moving us out...
[05:01] <elsha> please guys, i've been struggling with this for about 7 hours... i've installed my appropriate webcam driver, and it's working fine in xawtv, but when i try to use gnomemeeting it says to check the permissions and that i've installed the right drivers. i've checked the permissions, and the group my user in has read write access as it should. i've removed gnomemeeting package, and reinstalled it. I'm trying to eliminate problems, so would xawt
[05:01] <elsha> v work with the webcam if it was the incorrect drivers?
 you bill!
[05:01] <python_> why whats wrong with suse or redhat
[05:01] <Demostrike> tritium Apparently im suppossed to be making a driver for my wireless card
[05:01] <phixion> fh, it comes down to what you are used to, i took YEARS learning PS2 to the extent I know now
[05:01] <vader1102> oh, have fin dude... glad it is you and not me lol
[05:02] <crimsun> Demostrike: did you install build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?
[05:02] <tritium> vader1102, well, I'm glad to be moving home :)
[05:02] <vader1102> true
[05:02] <tritium> Demostrike, okay, where do you expect the dir?
[05:02] <vader1102> I just hate moving
[05:02] <phixion> luckily i only use gimp for editing the odd image
 if i'm, telling you it's more coll so it more right?
[05:02] <ToRTuReD_X> well
[05:02] <Demostrike> crimsun hang on ill check, :)
[05:02] <windex> elsha: video on linux is a hard topic to help people with, and last i knew, still changed frequently, breaking apps in the process. what cam do you have?
[05:02] <ToRTuReD_X> i'm off guys
 cool*
[05:02] <ToRTuReD_X> gonna go revert back to xp
[05:02] <python_> dump your proprietry apps and use alternatives that are open source or free software
[05:02] <phixion> fh, english plz
[05:02] <phixion> I don't understand your question :E
[05:03] <Demostrike> tritium under my kernel directory
[05:03] <vader1102> IIIEars: how are you?
[05:03] <elsha> windex, a logitech quickcam express. it's just so frustrating because it's working on another program :(
 open source it's cool that's all, are we understand?
[05:03] <windex> elsha: i have the same cam. let me boot my ubuntu machine and turn it on and see if i can make it work. :)
[05:03] <IIIEars> hi vader! :)
[05:03] <tritium> Demostrike, okay.  I see crimsun is helping you.  I'll not butt in...
[05:04] <phixion> fh, yes its cool, but it wont help me understand a program anymore :D
[05:04] <crimsun> tritium: no, that's fine, I'm leaving for a meeting in a few :)
[05:04] <elsha> windex, cool :)
[05:04] <Demostrike> ill need to load ubuntu back up, ill be back
[05:04] <fh>  <phixion> and now you have to say "yes sor!"
[05:04] <vader1102> tritium: I love this Hoary....it got my sound working on this laptop out of the box
[05:04] <tritium> crimsun, ah, okay.  And I'm getting moved out today, so I may be out of touch for a few days.
[05:04] <crimsun> tritium: k
[05:04] <elwood> this woram is killing me
[05:04] <tritium> vader1102, excellent :)
[05:05] <phixion> fh i think we all agree open source is better, but it wont change my mind about PS and gimp
 ok fine!
[05:05] <meta> elsha - pm me the output of a "lsusb" command
[05:05] <vader1102> tritium: Ubuntu user for life ;-)
[05:05] <tritium> yep ;)
 so i'm 1337 and you not!
[05:05] <paulproteus|jhu> meta, consider using the pastebot so others can join in
[05:05] <MartenH> Can someone hepl me gett his Icon theme operational? It doesn't show up as it should. http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22989
 blat, those kides.
[05:06] <xie> Um, I just installed Ubuntu (an older distro) on an older computer I have, and something is definetly broken. When it boots up the screen just shows a bunch of bouncy colorful snow, and no desktop.
[05:06] <phixion> fh o_O you = weirdo :D
[05:06] <elwood> MartenH, download and install
[05:06] <windex> elsha: logging in over vnc..
[05:06] <paulproteus|jhu> xie, Hoary or Warty?
 yes
[05:06] <paulproteus|jhu> In general, we urge you to use the current release, Hoary.
[05:06] <xie> Not an option right now
[05:06] <windex> hm
 you microscop(microsoft)
[05:07] <windex> elsha: can i PM you?
[05:07] <xie> I just ordered the CDs, but all I have is a CD that says "Version 4.10 windows x/86"
[05:07] <phixion> fh no i use ubuntu
[05:07] <xie> err Intel not windows
 and ps in windows
[05:07] <chn> hmmm hmm hmm
[05:07] <phixion> yes fh...
[05:07] <phixion> your point?
[05:07] <meta> elsha -  the 046d:0840 id cam should be supported by this driver http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/ (go download, then get qc-usb script from sourceforge download)
 you use windows!!! let's kill him boys!
[05:07] <chn> 3rd time using ubuntu and im back to compiling from source heheh
[05:07] <phixion> no i use ubuntu
[05:07] <phixion> and only ubuntu
[05:07] <phixion> WEIRDO
[05:07] <MartenH> elwood: I downlaoded it, placed it in ~/.icons and it shows up when i go to system->themes. But the icons doesn't show up and some (such as show desktop) are broken
 lol
 i was just playing man
 take it easy
[05:08] <MartenH> elwood: there is a menu addon that might be needed for it to work but I have no idea how to install that
[05:08] <meta> elsha - my 870 id worked with that script, just make sure you a) install kernel headers (search synaptic) and b) "sudo -s -H" to fully become root before you run it because the script doesn't understand sudo, only su
[05:09] <fh> ok need to go guys
[05:09] <fh> bye
[05:09] <elsha> meta, yeah, i definitely did both a and b when i installed it
[05:09] <elsha> i'll redo it anyways
[05:10] <meta> elsha - the other point is make sure gnome meeting is using v4l not v4l2, you may need to synaptic v4l in
[05:11] <elsha> ah, it is on v4l2
[05:13] <meta> elsha - I think only "libpt-plugins-v4l2" is installed default and you might need  "libpt-plugins-v4l", search synaptic for "v4l" and see if you have it
[05:14] <Demostrike> Okay, i cant find the build dir in the modules/(version)/ folder
[05:14] <tritium> Demostrike, you mean /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build ?
[05:15] <Demostrike> yes :)
[05:15] <Demostrike> do i need to install a package
[05:15] <elsha> YAY \o/
[05:15] <meta> elsha - working?
[05:16] <elsha> yup!
[05:16] <fh> !cmd PRIVMSG hi all
[05:16] <ubotu> fh: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:16] <elsha> meta, thanks a lot :)
 what?
[05:16] <meta> elsha - no probs
[05:16] <xie> OK I just rebooted, it's using the older "Warty" release, I'm assuming it doesn't recognize whatever video adapter I'm using, do I have any options besides wait 6 weeks for a new cd?
 what to explain?
[05:16] <tritium> Demostrike, did you install linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?
[05:16] <Demostrike> I couldnt find them
[05:17] <fh> !cmd PRIVMSG #ubuntu :hi all
[05:17] <bot666> hi all
[05:17] <ubotu> fh: Are you smoking crack?
[05:17] <fh> no
[05:17] <j_fletcher> I wish I was
[05:17] <fh> !cmd PRIVMSG #ubuntu :no hell no! crack is no good man!
[05:17] <bot666> no hell no! crack is no good man!
[05:17] <ubotu> fh: that's too long
[05:17] <tritium> Demostrike, please try this: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[05:17] <j_fletcher> bot666: well done, sherlock :)
[05:17] <Demostrike> thing is i have to restart to get into linux, in on windows atm
[05:17] <j_fletcher> ul
[05:18] <fh> !cmd PRIVMSG #ubuntu :thanks
[05:18] <bot666> thanks
[05:18] <ubotu> fh: I don't know
[05:18] <fh> !cmd PRIVMSG #ubuntu :what you don't know?
[05:18] <bot666> what you don't know?
[05:18] <ubotu> fh: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:18] <tritium> fh, what are you doing?
[05:18] <fh> nothing :)
[05:19] <Demostrike> tritium: I'm not in ubuntu atm because i need the build files to get my network card working, so what will this do?
[05:19] <tritium> Demostrike, okay.  Well, that's what you need to install.
[05:19] <tritium> Oh, you have no net access in linux?
[05:19] <Demostrike> tritium and it'll be there by default? already there, i just need to run the command?
[05:19] <Demostrike> no
[05:19] <tritium> Demostrike, that command would install the headers that you need
[05:19] <bot666> fh is a good guy
[05:19] <IIIEars> !webcam
[05:19] <ubotu> [webcam]  Support for webcams with messenger-like programs will be available in the next version of amsn (already in the CVS version) and with gaim-vv
[05:19] <chorton> Can anyone give me some pointers on getting bitlbee up and running?
[05:19] <Demostrike> yeah it doesnt have net access
[05:20] <bot666> he dosen't do anything
[05:20] <bot666> and i'm not bot!
[05:20] <Demostrike> is there a manual download i could put on cd or floppy
[05:20] <tritium> Demostrike, okay.  I don't believe that the headers are on the install CD.  You'll have to download it to a CD, as you suggest.
[05:20] <Demostrike> where can i find them
[05:20] <MikeW> Hi guys. Is Horay faster and more responsive than Warty?
[05:20] <tritium> Demostrike, one second
[05:20] <fh> !cmd PRIVMSG #ubuntu :and i'm not bot!
[05:20] <bot666> and i'm not bot!
[05:20] <ubotu> fh: Are you smoking crack?
 no!!!!!!!!
 what is wrong with you man?
[05:21] <IIIEars> ubotu webcam is also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47841 and GQcam http://cse.unl.edu/~cluening/gqcam/
[05:21] <ubotu> IIIEars: okay
[05:21] <tritium> fh, okay, you've had your fun.  Please stop
[05:21] <nevin> MikeW: in genereal, not really, as its just newer software, but some stuff may be changed to run faster (optimizations and such)
[05:21] <nevin> MikeW: also, you may find better support for hw
[05:21] <tritium> Demostrike, here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/devel/
[05:22] <tritium> grab the one that matches your kernel version _exactly_
[05:22] <Demostrike> ok thanks
[05:22] <tritium> Demostrike, which kernel are you using?
 i don't know what are you talking about and he ask me agian and again if i'm smoking and i said i don't so what the hell?
[05:22] <Demostrike> ill have to check
[05:23] <tritium> fh, ubotu is a bot
[05:23] <fh> yea?
[05:23] <MikeW> nevin: hmm, I installed warty on my celeron 533 with 128 ram, and found it slow, especially launching firefox and even terminal windows. I removed the partition. Strange, because firefox on winxp was much much faster. I was wondering if horay was noticably faster than warty
[05:23] <fh> so why he ask if i smoke?
[05:23] <tritium> so don't be surprised if he keeps asking you that
[05:23] <tritium> Demostrike, okay, you can check with the command "uname -r"
[05:24] <Demostrike> tritium im running warty 4.10 the kernerl for that, 1 sec
[05:24] <tritium> Demostrike, oh, then wait.
[05:24] <MyKq3> hello
[05:24] <meta> ok, I just owned firefox with an upgrade from synaptic... "/.gtkrc-2.0:2: Unable to find include file: ".gtkrc-2.0-scrollbar_cog"
[05:24] <tritium> I gave you a URL for hoary, Demostrike
 anyway i got here a bot and i give him some commands so i can't stop
[05:24] <Demostrike> ahh ok
[05:24] <nevin> MikeW: that may just be because gnome is taking up some serious horsepower; 128MB RAM has become unfortunately not quite adequate for the big desktop managers (I know your position, I just upgraded from 128MB to 1.5GB)
[05:24] <tritium> Demostrike, have you tried hoary instead?  You may not have to build modules for your NIC.
 you know what? i will give my bot command in private
[05:25] <tritium> thanks
[05:25] <Bubbling_Zombie> MikeW, you might try xfce. It's much lighter
[05:25] <fh> np
[05:25] <Bubbling_Zombie> *want to
[05:25] <phixion> MikeW, you can't expect anything to be fast with a low end system like that
[05:25] <Demostrike> tritium well basically im trying to get my wireless card working, and following a tutorial its asking me for these files
[05:26] <Demostrike> its an acx111 or something
[05:26] <tritium> Demostrike, okay, but if I'm just suggesting you try hoary if you can.
[05:26] <MikeW> Bubbling_Zombie: is that included on the ubuntu cd? I still can't get my head around with having to download packages for my distribution and trying to find some way to make them work
[05:26] <Dakel> Has anyone here had problems getting to GOOGLE due to their firewall? In my case, only google and related sites are affected. I'm using Firestarter to manage my firewall.
[05:26] <Bubbling_Zombie> MikeW, no clue.
[05:26] <Demostrike> okay, what would it do? i mean id have to download a whole cd
[05:27] <Demostrike> whats so different?
[05:27] <MikeW> phixion: I'd be happy if it ran as fast as windows xp does on that box. The machine flies with windows
[05:27] <nevin> MikeW: xfce is a fairly small download, and gdm should present you with an easy option for using it instead of gnome
[05:27] <tritium> Demostrike, there are updates and improvements with each release.
[05:27] <phixion> celeron 533 with 128mb ram flying? :P
[05:27] <tritium> which driver are you building, Demostrike
[05:27] <tritium> ?
[05:27] <Bubbling_Zombie> phixion, if you strip it down it'll fly
[05:27] <Bubbling_Zombie> :)-
[05:27] <phixion> :D
[05:27] <Bubbling_Zombie> i know mine does.
[05:28] <bugz> I have a question about screen resolutions...
[05:28] <Demostrike> tritium http://acx100.sourceforge.net/index.html thats the homepage
[05:28] <hilacha> plz.. there are some squid jedi that can helpme?
[05:28] <hilacha> my question is: "i have "acl usuarios_full proxy_auth "/etc/squid/acl_usuarios_full" and http_access allow usuarios_full. I autenticate with a right user, but i get: ' The request GET http://housecall-p.activeupdate.trendmicro.com:80/activeupdate/server.ini is DENIED, because it matched 'usuarios_full'!!!!!!!!!!"
[05:29] <nevin> MikeW: you may want to try vector linux, its a much lighterweight distro
[05:29] <bugz> Uh, my only option for screen resolutions is 640x480...how do I get 1024x768 on there?
[05:29] <nevin> MikeW: however xfce should work fine with ubuntu on your box
[05:29] <tritium> Demostrike, I see.
[05:29] <d3vice> hi all
[05:29] <nevin> bugz: you're going to need to edit your xorg.conf file
[05:29] <bugz> Yes, I know. But, I'm not sure which part to edit, or what to change it to
[05:30] <Bubbling_Zombie> try
[05:30] <Demostrike> tritium so the hedge is a newer version?
[05:30] <Bubbling_Zombie> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:30] <tritium> bugz, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:30] <nevin> bugz: in your "screen" section, there is a list of resolutions
[05:30] <d3vice> i deleted /etc/webmin folder, now i can't uninstall webmin, anyway to force it with apt-get/dpkg ?
[05:30] <nevin> bugz: tritium's idea may be simpler for you
[05:30] <tritium> Bubbling_Zombie, :)
[05:31] <bugz> I'll try editing the xorg file, if I mess up, I can just reinstall Ubuntu, I just got it installed like 5 minutes ago
[05:31] <tritium> bugz, you should not need to reinstall
[05:31] <gyaresu> !resolution
[05:31] <ubotu> [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:31] <nevin> bugz: use tritium's idea: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:31] <bugz> Alright
[05:31] <Bubbling_Zombie> bugz, the x-server (your xorg) is only a smart part
[05:31] <nevin> or ubotu's
[05:31] <Bubbling_Zombie> that can be fixed :x
[05:31] <gyaresu> tell bugz about resolution
[05:31] <FHs_bot> who needs help?
[05:32] <sproingie> is there a way to add gtk themes without installing gnome?
[05:32] <arnonym> bye
[05:32] <FHs_bot> bye
[05:32] <Demostrike> tritium so the hedge is a newer version?
[05:32] <FHs_bot> someone needs help?
[05:32] <tritium> Demostrike, yes, hoary is newer.
[05:33] <IIIEars> ubotu xserver is also or !xwindows
[05:33] <ubotu> IIIEars: okay
[05:33] <sproingie> hm, just discovered the kcontrol for gtk-qt, nevermind
[05:33] <Demostrike> i have the hoary live cd, i cant instal or upgrade from that can i
[05:33] <tritium> Demostrike, there is an acx_pci driver in hoary
[05:33] <tritium> It's for the acx100
[05:34] <FHs_bot> why ubuntu dosen't upgrade firefox when needed?
[05:34] <Demostrike> ahh, i need a acx 111
[05:34] <ubulinux> hello, Every once in a while, my logout menu changes from the default (that offersLock Screen, Reboot, etc.) to one that only offers Logout. Does anyone know where the Log Out menu options are controlled?
[05:34] <tritium> Demostrike, it'll work for that too
[05:34] <bugz> I'm doing the dpkg xserver thing, let's see if it can find it...
[05:34] <Demostrike> oh okay, thanks
[05:34] <meta> FHs_bot, well my firefox just got owned and now won't load at all
[05:34] <Demostrike> i guess ill download it then
[05:34] <Demostrike> thanks :) tritium
[05:34] <tritium> Demostrike, this is from "modinfo acx_pci":  description:    Driver for TI ACX1xx based wireless cards (CardBus/PCI/USB)
[05:34] <FHs_bot> :\
[05:35] <FHs_bot> sucks man
[05:35] <Demostrike> lright
[05:35] <FHs_bot> in gentoo firefox is upgraded when needed
[05:35] <tritium> less work, more fun, Demostrike :)
[05:35] <Demostrike> if i download hegdehog do i have to wipe warty or will it upgrade
[05:35] <Bubbling_Zombie> it'll upgrade
[05:36] <tritium> Demostrike, please consider Bubbling_Zombie's advice, and simply upgrade
[05:36] <Demostrike> thanks
[05:36] <Demostrike> i am upgrading
[05:36] <Demostrike> i gotta wait till it downloads -_-
[05:36] <bugz> nevin, how many KB should I set to be used by my video card?
[05:36] <fh> well ubuntu realy need to upgrade security packages once for a while
[05:36] <tritium> fh, such as?
[05:36] <nevin> bugz: in most cases, it'll be auto-detected
[05:36] <fh> firefox
[05:36] <tritium> it's already up to 1.0.6
[05:37] <Goek> i wanna mount an iso-file and for that i use 'mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/iso
[05:37] <fh> no in hoary
[05:37] <brian__> Strange lockups with Ubuntu amd64.  keyboard locks, cursor remains operational. Have to hit the front powerswitch to get maching to shutdown
[05:37] <chrissturm> ubuntu firefox has all fixes applied
[05:37] <Goek> i've made /mnt/iso
[05:37] <Goek> and i'm root
[05:37] <nevin> bugz: do you know how much you have?  if you do, eneter it anyways
[05:37] <gyaresu> Goek, yessum...
[05:37] <tritium> fh, yep in hoary
[05:37] <bugz> Oh ok, I didn't finish reading the thing >_>
[05:37] <fh> with apt-get dist-upgrade man?
[05:37] <gyaresu> Goek, and maybe -t iso9660
[05:37] <Goek> it asks for what filesystem, and i really don't know
[05:37] <Goek> ok
[05:37] <tritium> fh, you don't need dist-upgrade, just upgrade.  It was a security fix a few days ago
[05:38] <Bubbling_Zombie> mount -t iso9660 -o loop image.iso /mnt/iso <- try that Goek
[05:38] <Demostrike> is there a bittorrent link for hoary install cd
[05:38] <d3vice> i deleted /etc/webmin folder, now i can't uninstall webmin, anyway to force it with apt-get/dpkg ?
[05:38] <fh> cool i haven't noticed
[05:38] <fh> thx man
[05:38] <vader1102> see you guys this evening, time to go and make some money
[05:38] <fh> my bot is happy too
[05:38] <Bubbling_Zombie> Demostrike, do you have ubuntu installed?
[05:38] <Demostrike> yes
[05:38] <FHs_bot> i'm happy
[05:38] <Bubbling_Zombie> you might want to try updating thru synaptic/apt
[05:38] <tritium> fh, that's great, but can we keep him quiet please?
[05:38] <Demostrike> i cant i need the wireless driver
[05:39] <Bubbling_Zombie> oh, that way
[05:39] <Demostrike> which is on hoary
[05:39] <Goek> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop5,
[05:39] <Bubbling_Zombie> ah, i see :x
 yes just look when he goes
[05:39] <fh> !part #ubuntu :bye all!
[05:39] <ubotu> fh: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:39] <Demostrike> just i tried to download it and it finished after 100 mb and was corrupt...
[05:39] <tritium> fh, thank you
[05:39] <JadeRobbins> question: i am running a command from the console, and i want the results to be put into a new text file. How do i do that?
[05:39] <gyaresu> Goek, loop5? do you have other iso files mounted?
[05:40] <ValheruLord> hi all.. i found something called splashy.. it shows boot process procent. Some friends told me that i can find themes for splashy. Wher ecan i find ?
 just say when
[05:40] <Goek> i have had an other iso mounted, but i just umounted it
[05:40] <tritium> fh, it's just such a busy channel, that it's best.  I appreciate your cooperation.  :)
[05:40] <Bubbling_Zombie> Demostrike, there are bittorrent links on the download pages, alongside with the regular *.iso's
[05:40] <gyaresu> Goek, you may have run out of block devices for loop devices...
[05:40] <gyaresu> Goek, but if you only had one other...
[05:40] <JadeRobbins> can anyone help me? :(
[05:40] <Demostrike> oh yeah, thank
 as i said it's not a problem man
[05:40] <JadeRobbins> i should know how to do that, but i'm retarded
[05:41] <tritium> very cool, fh :)
[05:41] <gyaresu> JadeRobbins, depends on the command ....
[05:41] <JadeRobbins> okay, lspci
[05:41] <Bubbling_Zombie> lspci > bleh.txt
[05:41] <meta> JadeRobbins - command > file.txt
[05:41] <JadeRobbins> thank you so much guys ;)
[05:41] <gyaresu> JadeRobbins, some commands come with 'options'
[05:41] <Bubbling_Zombie> >> if you want to append
[05:41] <fh> firefox (1.0.6)  	1.0.6  	1.0.2  	0.10.1 not cool(http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu)
[05:41] <gyaresu> meta, not all commands...
[05:41] <Demostrike> And kaboom, bittorrent is off
[05:41] <Bubbling_Zombie> ^-^
[05:42] <fh> hoary with 1.0.2
[05:42] <fh> see http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[05:42] <Demostrike> yeah i noticed that, firefox was outdated lol
[05:42] <meta> gyaresu - yeah I suppose, top, and the like aren't going to play well with that, heh
[05:42] <faen> aloha everyone
[05:42] <Bubbling_Zombie> hello
[05:42] <elwood> but when i order cd can i also order a girl packed with it?
[05:42] <JadeRobbins> GIAM's irc colors are all crappy
[05:42] <gyaresu> meta, :) aye.
[05:42] <tritium> fh, you're not finding 1.0.6?
[05:42] <JadeRobbins> anyone else notice that?
[05:43] <Bubbling_Zombie> elwood, yes.
[05:43] <faen> just switched from mandriva, have to re-learn linux now
[05:43] <Bubbling_Zombie> xD
[05:43] <tritium> !info firefox
[05:43] <elwood> !info cd
[05:43] <tritium> !info mozlilla-firefox
[05:43] <Demostrike> !info mozlilla-firefox
[05:43] <sorush20> guys what is QT and how do I make sure I have it installed or not.. when I do a search on the synaptic there are lots of packages...
[05:43] <chn> where do i turn on php support in apache2
 in brezzy it's 1.0.6 in hoary 1.0.2 (http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu)
[05:43] <chn> ?????????????????
[05:43] <d3vice> how do i force a package to uninstall ?
[05:43] <elwood> sorush20, qt are libraries
[05:43] <JadeRobbins> can i do the >> with a tail command?
[05:43] <tommi^> I have /home partition made with debian unstable. Every time I boot e2fsck complains that it has newer features and can't be checked. Can I use backports to fix this problem and what package should I be looking for?
[05:44] <tritium> !info mozilla-firefox
[05:44] <JadeRobbins> or do i pipe it into an editor?
[05:44] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 8581 kB, Installed size: 24100 kB
[05:44] <Goek> darn
[05:44] <nevin> d3vice: apt-get remove package?
[05:44] <fh> 1.0.2-0ubuntu5
[05:44] <faen> just made fresh install of hoary, what firewall if any is used, and where is the security config type stuff?
[05:44] <chn> and whats up with the lame virtual host thingie
[05:44] <chn> GRrrrr
[05:44] <elwood> JadeRobbins, yes tail -f /var/log/messages | grep usb > pippo.txt
[05:44] <nevin> fh: I'm downloading 1.06 as we speak via apt
[05:44] <d3vice> nevin, yes, it exists with status 2, doesnt resolve the problem
[05:44] <Demostrike> well you can just update anyway
[05:44] <sorush20> elwood, I'm trying to install KDAR and its one of the dependencies....
[05:44] <Bubbling_Zombie> actually
 if you say
[05:44] <Bubbling_Zombie> qt is a framework
[05:44] <Bubbling_Zombie> :x
[05:45] <elwood> sorush20, with apt?
[05:45] <tritium> this is the version from hoary-security 1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1
[05:45] <tritium> fh, make sure you've enabled hoary-security
[05:45] <thoreauputic> faen: a default install of hoary doesn't need a firewall ( no services are enabled to the internet)
[05:45] <nevin> d3vice: does it gave any extra info, ther than the error number?
 ok thx i will check it out
[05:45] <elwood> sorush20, apt-get install qt
[05:46] <tritium> chn, apt-cache search apache php
[05:46] <thoreauputic> or to the network in fact...
[05:46] <Demostrike> im gonna go now, thanks for the help :)
[05:46] <jantan21> hi all
[05:46] <tritium> chn, you'll find what you need
[05:46] <d3vice> nevin, yes, it says it cant find /etc/webmin/webmin.acl
 going now, bye and thx for everything
[05:46] <tritium> fh, take care, buddy
 u2!
[05:46] <faen> thoreauputic: I see, I would like to run ssh, and a small ircd and a few other little items, what is a good selection for debian/ubuntu firewall
[05:46] <meta> well my firefox doesn't even fail with an error now, just silently
[05:46] <Petrov> hello
[05:47] <sorush20> elwood.. I get the package can't be found..
[05:47] <jantan21> fh : thx's, but my music not connec, why ?
[05:47] <Petrov> how can ik install kde?
[05:47] <chn> tritium, ive installed everything
[05:47] <nevin> d3vice: I remember having that problem... try echo > /etc/webmin/webmin.acl
[05:47] <elwood> sorush20, apt-cache search qt
[05:47] <meta> hey petrov
[05:47] <thoreauputic> faen: firestarter is a nice gui for configuring iptables
[05:47] <chn> i just dont get the lame conf files in debian
[05:47] <elwood> sorush20,  and check how is named
[05:47] <IIIEars> faen - Ubuntu uses iptables and is configured by default to pretty stealthy. see gibson research shields up! test - firestarter is a linux gui firewall that is really only necessary if you need to easily configure settings not already setup.
[05:47] <chn> could easily be simplified
[05:47] <nevin> d3vice: there may be a few files missing from the pacakage... webmin should be installed from the tgz form the webmin site on ubuntu, the package is borked
[05:47] <faen> IIIEars, thoreauputic hanks
[05:48] <jantan21> fh: can u help me
[05:48] <guizzzmo> hi
[05:48] <Petrov> how can i install kde? :p
[05:48] <elwood> sorush20, done?
[05:48] <JadeRobbins> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:48] <nevin> Petrov: sudo apt-get install kde
[05:48] <chn> i have LoadModule php5_module        /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so
[05:48] <chn> in httpd.conf
[05:49] <jantan21> thx's for u all
[05:49] <Petrov> i haven't got kde on my install cd
[05:49] <faen> IIIEars thoreauputic : I never was prompted to set up a su passwd and I am unable to su, any ideas?
[05:49] <guizzzmo> i have a problem with sk98lin, it is not working with a marvell yukon 88E8086 fast ethernet card
[05:49] <chn> and ive added the postfix extrention for .php
[05:49] <thoreauputic> !root
[05:49] <ubotu> well, root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:49] <d3vice> nevin, it worked, thank you very much =)
[05:49] <chn> in apache2.conf
[05:49] <thoreauputic> faen: see ubotu's URL
[05:49] <nevin> faen: just use sudo, ubuntu doesn't use su
[05:49] <meta> is there a way of uninstalling firefox without taking ubuntu-desktop with it?
[05:49] <faen> k
[05:49] <nevin> d3vice: no problem
[05:49] <chn> and the default site index
[05:49] <JadeRobbins> faen: use sudo and by default it is your default user's password i believe
[05:49] <chn> but the bitch wont work
[05:50] <cs378> daen: sudo -s
[05:50] <faen> wow, much different than mandriva etc..
[05:50] <cs378> daen: u can set su too, ubuntuguide.org shows it all
[05:50] <faen> cs378: thanks
[05:50] <JadeRobbins> okay
[05:50] <JadeRobbins> question fellas :D
[05:51] <sorush20> guys.. I keep getting these errors when I try to install KDAR...
[05:51] <JadeRobbins> in the console how do i copy files to my usb drive? :x
[05:51] <elwood> sorush20, past me the errors
[05:51] <cs378> i just installed Ubuntu yesterday, I was reading this forum on how to install Opera. But it didnt work, so i uninstall it, the opera icon is still in the menu. how do i delete that icon?
[05:52] <guizzzmo> any idea?
[05:52] <DekaPink> Where are the includes in Ubuntu? ^^
[05:52] <meta> JadeRobbins - cp is the command so if you were in your home directory it would be "cp resume.doc /media/usbdisk/"
[05:52] <thoreauputic> !smeg
[05:52] <ubotu> smeg is probably a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[05:52] <JadeRobbins> ahhh
[05:52] <chn> aha
[05:52] <JadeRobbins> auto mounted i see L:D
[05:52] <chn> debian fucks up with php5
[05:53] <thoreauputic> cs378: ues smeg as above
[05:53] <DekaPink> As they aren't where a script I'm trying to run thinks they should be (linuxincludes=/usr/src/linux/include) Is it something I need to install?
[05:53] <thoreauputic> *use
[05:53] <bugz> If I edit the xorg.conf file, I need to reboot for changes to take effect, right?
[05:53] <meta> JadeRobbins - well it should be automounted :P, if not there are a few more things to do, you probably have an icon on your desktop or in "places" too
[05:53] <thoreauputic> bugz: no, just restart the X server
[05:54] <bugz> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace?
[05:54] <thoreauputic> bugz: ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:54] <samuelk> i need help installing a boot splash...
[05:54] <thoreauputic> yep
[05:54] <bugz> k
[05:54] <bugz> Also, I need to know how to install software on Ubuntu...
[05:54] <thoreauputic> !synaptic
[05:54] <ubotu> [synaptic]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[05:54] <bugz> I downloaded an RPM, and I have no idea how to install it
[05:54] <guizzzmo> anybody is using sk98lin module?
[05:54] <thoreauputic> bugz: synaptic as above
[05:55] <thoreauputic> bugz: Ubuntu uses .deb , not rpm
[05:55] <toad3030> hello, i'm new to linux, and i was wondering how to set up my sound?
[05:55] <samuelk> you can install rpm..
[05:55] <bugz> oh...
[05:55] <bugz> If I get an RPM, I can still use it can't I
[05:55] <thoreauputic> samuelk: yes but lets keep it simple :)
[05:56] <IIIEars> bugz - in a pinch alien will manage
[05:56] <samuelk> yes you can
[05:56] <mjr> bugz, you can try alien on it, but prefer debs
[05:56] <Rockett17> if you use alien to convert it
[05:56] <windex> bugz: "sometimes".
[05:56] <IIIEars> man alien
[05:56] <bugz> ..Alright, how would I get into Alien then
[05:56] <cs378> the menu thing, whoever replied me, how do i do it? (sry got logged off, didnt see)
[05:56] <thoreauputic> bugz: what are you wanting to install ?
[05:56] <bugz> LimeWire
[05:56] <thoreauputic> ah
[05:57] <cs378> and what the Ctrl+Alt_Backspace do?
[05:57] <samuelk> restart X
[05:57] <meta> samuelk - "sudo cp mysplash.png /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png"
[05:57] <faen> should firestarter be on the add/remove programs listing ?
[05:57] <samuelk> thx meta
[05:57] <faen> err aynaptic pckg manager?
[05:57] <dr_willis> ctrl-alt-NUMPAD_Backspace kills X off :P
[05:57] <cs378> ohh
[05:58] <dr_willis> isent it?  oh wait.. im tininkg of the + and -
[05:58] <dr_willis> :P
[05:58] <dr_willis> since there is no numpad backspace..
[05:58] <elsha> http://prodtn.cafepress.com/5/14580695_F_tn.jpg heh, oh dear
[05:58] <thoreauputic> faen: you need the universe repository
[05:58] <cs378> thats why i got logged off lol
[05:58] <thoreauputic> !repos
[05:58] <ubotu> well, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:58] <thoreauputic> faen: ^^^
[05:58] <ernstp> anyone found mkfontdir in breezy?
[05:59] <bugz> Wait
[05:59] <bugz> In that synaptic thing, it says "select Computer>System Configuration>Synaptic Package Manager"
[05:59] <bugz> ...Where's Computer at
[06:00] <dr_willis> bugz,  i normally just open a shell and type 'synaptic'
[06:00] <bugz> ?
[06:00] <dr_willis> ??
[06:00] <bugz> I forgot to mention, I know nothing about Ubuntu
[06:00] <toad3030> would anybody mind helping me set up my video card drivers????
[06:00] <bugz> or Linux in general
[06:01] <elwood> toad3030,  tell my your card
[06:01] <dr_willis> the menu item in question is under  System/Administration/
[06:01] <dan_> hi everybody)) I did it! Bye bye microsoft!! =)
[06:01] <toad3030> i have a nvidia fx 5600
[06:01] <meta> bugz - the menus up the top left, applications/places/system.... it's the system one, then go admin => synaptic
[06:01] <elwood> toad3030, and go to nvidia.com and download driver
[06:02] <elwood> toad3030, sell me your old card so!!!
[06:02] <toad3030> haha, i didn't know they made drivers for linux, sorry, i'm a noob and linux, just got it yesterday
[06:02] <Kazrak> Howdy.
[06:02] <toad3030> this is my old card elwood lol
[06:02] <Belutz> tritium: hai sir :)
[06:03] <elwood> toad3030, your are lucky
[06:03] <Kazrak> Is this an appropriate place to report a problem downloading Kubuntu?
[06:03] <toad3030> what linux drive should i use?
[06:04] <toad3030> the IA32?
[06:04] <Kazrak> kubuntu-5.04-dvd-powerpc.iso
[06:04] <|rockinnerd|> how does one make arts start at startup?
[06:04] <Goek> Kazrak it's a fine place
[06:04] <|rockinnerd|> even when one runs gnome?
[06:04] <cs378> how do i remove a icon in the menu? help plzzz
[06:04] <guizzzmo> this is not workin at all, i have to move to centos
[06:04] <elwood> toad3030, depends on your system
[06:04] <guizzzmo> bye
[06:05] <Kazrak> The torrent download for kubuntu-5.04-dvd-powerpc.iso seems to stop after 72.1% complete for everyone I see on the peer list (including me).
[06:05] <Goek> Kazrak,  but u could try #kubuntu
[06:05] <toad3030> just a amd athlon 2800
[06:05] <Kazrak> It looks like there is no server with 100% available.
[06:05] <bugz> Where is the "Computer menu"...
[06:05] <|rockinnerd|> bugz, rt-click panel,a dd to panel,
[06:05] <|rockinnerd|> one of the menus
[06:06] <Riddell> Kazrak: I know and I've tried poking the sysadmin
[06:06] <elwood> toad3030, https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards?highlight=%28nvidia-glx%29
[06:06] <Riddell> Kazrak: could you report it on the ubuntu-devel mailing list?
[06:06] <Kazrak> More accurately, it looks like there was at some point, some downloader got 72.1% and then the completed server went offline and everyone else connecting now can only get the 72.1%.
[06:06] <bugz> My menus are Applications, Places and System
[06:06] <meta> kazrak - the last 30% is missing cause you aren't using the kittorrent, srry bad joke
[06:06] <Kazrak> Is the ubuntu-devel mailing list open or closed?
[06:06] <meta> bugs - yeah it's under system
[06:06] <Riddell> Kazrak: open
[06:07] <thoreauputic> bugz: ah - the howto is out of date - look in system
[06:07] <|rockinnerd|> Kazrak, yes its open
[06:07] <toad3030> thank you elwood
[06:07] <elwood> toad3030, nop i have an nvidia too
[06:07] <Kazrak> OK.  I'll post to it and request CC.  Thanks.
[06:07] <bugz> No it's not >_>
[06:07] <bugz> Not under system
[06:07] <|rockinnerd|> how does one make artsd start at startup?
[06:07] <meta> Kazrak - sorry one more... are you are KDE enthusiast who used to be called azrak?
[06:08] <toad3030> doesn't look like theres a 5600 though
[06:08] <thoreauputic> bugz: System/Administration/  I think for synaptic
[06:08] <|rockinnerd|> is it possible?
[06:09] <Riddell> Kazrak: thanks
[06:10] <nariman> hello everybody
[06:10] <nariman> i need help
[06:10] <samuelk> any one know any good programing program for linux?
[06:10] <Kazrak> I'm a KDE enthusiast, but I never went by "azrak".  :)
[06:10] <toad3030> think i got it elwood, thx again :)
[06:10] <auk> bugz: the menu bar-thingy used to be applications, computer. computer sort of got split into places and sysytem
[06:11] <nariman> is there a program that alows me to run winows in a window
[06:11] <elwood> toad3030, no problems...remember me when you  will change your card :)
[06:11] <dr_willis> samuelk,  thats a little vague
[06:11] <toad3030> hehe
[06:11] <toad3030> anybody use cedega??
[06:11] <auk> and before that it had an "Actions" menu in there...
[06:11] <dr_willis> toad3030,  yes I do. :P
[06:11] <thoreauputic> samuelk: anjuta is an IDE if that's what you want
[06:11] <nariman> is there a program that alows me to run winows in a window????
[06:11] <toad3030> is it pretty easy to install?
[06:12] <toad3030> i'm new to linux, just got it yesterday
[06:12] <dr_willis> nariman,  what do you want to 'run' exactly?
[06:12] <nariman> a game (gta2)
[06:12] <bugz> Alright, now can someone tell me how to install an RPM?
[06:12] <dr_willis> nariman,   then you want to look at 'cedega'
[06:12] <bugz> Er, I don't understand the alien thing
[06:12] <samuelk> looks good :D
[06:12] <bugz> either
[06:12] <auk> bugz: alien <blah_blah.rpm>
[06:12] <nariman> whats that? im a linux newbie
[06:12] <dr_willis> nariman,  and its not free. :P and it can run GTA2, but ive had issues with it.
[06:13] <nariman> :(
[06:13] <auk> dpkg -i <blah_blah.deb>
[06:13] <nariman> but, isn there a program that can run winows under linux?
[06:13] <toad3030> cedega is only $5/month right?
[06:13] <dr_willis> http://www.transgaming.com/  - home of cedega - used to be called wines
[06:13] <dr_willis> nariman,  running the whole windows OPERATING system - you can try vmware (not free) and a few other tools.. but doing that for ONE game - is overkill.
[06:14] <samuelk> can you run games like warcraft 3 roc and counterstrike with the old wine?
[06:14] <dr_willis> WIneX became Cedega
[06:14] <auk> nariman: there are several
[06:14] <auk> !vwware
[06:14] <ubotu> auk: I haven't a clue
[06:14] <nariman> hm.. maybe
[06:14] <auk> !vmware
[06:14] <ubotu> I don't know, auk
[06:14] <auk> uuggh
[06:14] <dr_willis> samuelk,  Ive heard that some can run with the normal wine.
[06:14] <bugz> auk: Were you talking to me with the dpkg thing?
[06:14] <bugz> wait
[06:14] <auk> bugz: yes
[06:14] <bugz> nevermind
[06:14] <auk> !wine
[06:14] <ubotu> auk: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:14] <auk> !info wine
[06:14] <nariman> isn't there anyway to get it for free :)
[06:14] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[06:14] <jantan21> hi...can u help me ?
[06:14] <samuelk> i think i got warcraft 3 working
[06:14] <samuelk> but i dont remember how :D
[06:14] <jantan21> hi all...can u help me ?
[06:15] <bugz> So, I need to do alien path_to_rpm?
[06:15] <auk> jantan21: don't ask to ask, just ask
[06:15] <auk> bugz: yes
[06:15] <bugz> Alright
[06:15] <nariman> ubotu, whats wine?
[06:15] <ubotu> nariman: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:15] <bugz> And that will turn it into a .deb?
[06:15] <nariman> ubotu, what is larger?
[06:15] <ubotu> nariman: what are you talking about?
[06:15] <auk> or you can just do alien -i and skip dpgk, but i don't think it's as goo
[06:15] <auk> d
[06:15] <bugz> Alright.
[06:15] <nariman> haha
[06:16] <jantan21> ok
[06:16] <nariman> ubotu, does the windows emulator take much cpu in idle?
[06:16] <ubotu> nariman: Are you smoking crack?
[06:16] <thoreauputic> nariman: please don't abuse the bot
[06:16] <nariman> sorry, just a bit confused
[06:16] <auk> ubot, what's package wine
[06:16] <auk> uboto, what's package wine
[06:16] <jantan21> how share windows for linux printer
[06:16] <dr_willis> ubotu - is an infomation bot. and only understands a few commands.
[06:16] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, dr_willis
[06:17] <dr_willis> lol
[06:17] <auk> stupid bot
[06:17] <nariman> haha
[06:17] <auk> he doesn't even know ubotu, what's <blah> ?
[06:17] <nariman> ok, anyone. where can i find an windows emulator??
[06:17] <auk> narimanL try wine
[06:17] <dr_willis> jantan21,  you mean let windows access a printer on a linux box?
[06:18] <faen> ok guys what about win32 codecs for wmv, mp3, mpg, avi and all that what pckg am I looking for?
[06:18] <dr_willis> nariman,  depends on waht you want do, your choises are "wine" "Cedega" "vmware" or a few others.
[06:18] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[06:18] <ubotu> restricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:18] <bugz> Uh, auk, it tells me I have to run as root to convert to deb format
[06:18] <nariman> ok, i wnat to run gta2
[06:18] <nariman> ,and cedega is free
[06:18] <auk> bugz: 'sudo alien <blah_blah.rpm>
[06:18] <auk> * "
[06:18] <auk> * " = '
[06:18] <bugz> I tried...it didn't do anything after that
[06:18] <dr_willis> cedega is not free. the CVS version is free.. but I dont think it will play all the games.
[06:19] <bugz> Didn't give me a message or anything
[06:19] <auk> bugz: add sudo to the beginning
[06:19] <auk> !sudo
[06:19] <ubotu> I heard sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[06:19] <bugz> I did
[06:19] <thoreauputic> nariman: cedega is decidedly unfree
[06:19] <bugz> What should it do if it works?
[06:19] <auk> bugz: did it just return to a new line?
[06:19] <bugz> yes, with nothing onit
[06:19] <bugz> *on it
[06:19] <auk> well that's good
[06:19] <nariman> forgot to put "not"
[06:19] <auk> it worked
[06:19] <bugz> Oh
[06:20] <bugz> Where did it go then o-o
[06:20] <nariman> is wine ok then?
[06:20] <jantan21> dr_willis : how share printer windows to linux
[06:20] <auk> bugz: in that same dir, there shoudl be a fiel with the same name except for the extension
[06:20] <auk> *file
[06:20] <tom__> hi
[06:21] <bugz> ..no, the RPM was on my desktop...and it's still the only thing there
[06:21] <faen> can anyone point me in the proper direction to play all forms of media like using xine like .wmv, .avi, .mpg etc?
[06:21] <deprave> good morning!
[06:21] <faen> basically the win codecs
[06:21] <tom__> me to
[06:21] <tom__> were u get them
[06:21] <thoreauputic> faen: read the restricted formats URL below
[06:21] <dr_willis> jantan21,  You should be able to add a new printer with the linux tools In the menu. and tell it the server/name of the printer.
[06:21] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[06:21] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:21] <faen> k
[06:22] <dr_willis> jantan21,  System/admin/Printing
[06:22] <toad3030> how do you get you cd player to work?
[06:23] <Goek> how long time does it take to rip a dvd? with drip? 2ghz, 512mbram? 60minutemovie
[06:23] <DekaPink> Yay, I did it... My video card is giving me 3D support now. xD
[06:23] <Goek> approx.?
[06:24] <bugz> It worked now...
[06:25] <bugz> Alright, it made a .deb file, what now?
[06:25] <bugz> to install it
[06:25] <elwood> bugz, dpkg -i
[06:25] <thoreauputic> bugz: prepend sudo to that as well
[06:26] <thoreauputic> sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>
[06:28] <bugz> Alright, i did that
[06:28] <bugz> ...what now?
[06:28] <Bubbling_Zombie> now it's installed xD
[06:29] <thoreauputic> umm.. doesn't limewire requirw java?
[06:29] <bugz> Yeah, I know
[06:29] <thoreauputic> *require
[06:29] <Determinist> hm , anyone here that tried installing ATI drivers for a radeon 9600 pro?
[06:29] <tommi^> Hi. Where can I get maildir2mbox? Thanks
[06:29] <thoreauputic> !java
[06:29] <ubotu> java is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[06:30] <Seveas> Mez|AWAY, ping...
[06:30] <bugz> I know it's installed, but how do I get to the executable for it...
[06:30] <thoreauputic> bugz: won't work without java, methinks
[06:30] <bugz> Damn, another thing to install now..
[06:31] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  want to see something hillarious?
[06:31] <thoreauputic> bugz: these things are all patent encumbered and can't legally be included in Ubuntu
[06:31] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: sure
[06:31] <xxenon> I installed g++3-4 , what shall I do to get a link from "g++" to "g++-3.4" ?
[06:31] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  check www.gotfuck.com (safe for work)
[06:31] <thoreauputic> uh huh
[06:31] <dr_willis> Determinist,  my ati9700pro worked fine
[06:32] <bugz> ...
[06:32] <Determinist> dr_willis, ok , how did you install and what did you install?
[06:32] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  i'm slashdotting that XD
[06:32] <elwood> dr_willis,  do you buy that card?
[06:33] <Seveas> xxenon, update-alternatives --config g++
[06:33] <bugz> Well, can someone help me with my screen resolution problem then?
[06:33] <dr_willis> Determinist,  i.... followed the 3 commands at the ubuntu  binary driver howto/wiki   took all of.. 3 min perhaps.
[06:33] <xxenon> Seveas - thx.
[06:33] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, lol :)
[06:33] <Seveas> nice page :)
[06:33] <dr_willis> elwood,  I bought it some time ago.. yes.
[06:33] <Determinist> dr_willis, is that on the ubuntuforums? sorry for the questions, so far been trying to install from the official ATI site
[06:33] <elwood> dr_willis, can you sell me your old one?
[06:33] <xxenon> Seveas - No alternatives for g++
[06:34] <bugz> Alright, how do I edit xorg.conf to make it so I can use 1024x768?
[06:34] <xxenon> (only g++-3.4 is installed)
[06:34] <dr_willis> Determinist,  in NO way - did i use the info at the ati site.. i followed the "binarydriver" wiki/howto.
[06:34] <dr_willis> elwood,  since its in USE right now.. No.
[06:34] <bugz> Anyone?
[06:34] <Determinist> dr_willis, erm , ok , thanks mate. would you mind posting a url for some info tho?
[06:35] <Brian_Boruma> hi everyone
[06:35] <elwood> dr_willis, ok thanks :)
[06:35] <Brian_Boruma> its brian from ysterday
[06:35] <Brian_Boruma> and the day before
[06:35] <dr_willis> Determinist,  :)  gesh man.. :P https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?highlight=%28binary%29
[06:35] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  what country you in?
[06:35] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, NL
[06:35] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: just redirects to yahoo.com here
[06:35] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  I need to confirm from 3 countries that that hits yahoo
[06:35] <Brian_Boruma> i really like this ubuntu
[06:35] <Seveas> thoreauputic, that's the trick :)
[06:35] <the--dud> I'd appreciate if people tried following this HOWTO http://nix-dev.dudcore.net/HOWTO/InstallingLincityng
[06:35] <bluefoxicy> I got canada, US, and NL?
[06:35] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, confirmed
[06:35] <Brian_Boruma> the more i use it the more i like it
[06:36] <the--dud> tell me if its good/bad or how it works for you
[06:36] <jantan21> dr_willis jantan21,  System/admin/Printing <<< i can't
[06:36] <Brian_Boruma> im am learning new things it seems every minute
[06:36] <bluefoxicy> ok :)
[06:36] <jantan21> Printing: Network host '192.168.1.8' is busy; will retry in 30 seconds... <<<warning
[06:36] <thoreauputic> Seveas: hrm - OK I don't really see the humour but whatever...
[06:36] <dr_willis> jantan21, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP?highlight=%28printing%29
[06:37] <xxenon> Seveas ?
[06:37] <dr_willis> perhaps. :P i now make windoiws use the printers shared on the linux box.
[06:38] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic:  'sex' is the #1 search term eveer
[06:38] <drbombay43> yellow to all, is there anyone out there using a powerbook
[06:39] <witless> hi - i'm setting up 5.04 on my system, but the networking is *incredibly* slow.  20, 30 secs to show a web page or load an imap store...  anyone aware of a problem like this?  i have debian-sid installed on the same box and i have no such problems...
[06:39] <Hawkeye> witless: disable ipv6 networking
[06:39] <witless> Hawkeye: thanks, how?
[06:39] <Hawkeye> your ISP probably doesn't have an ipv6 enabled DNS server, so your applications will first have to timeout on the ipv6 dns request
[06:40] <Hawkeye> through /etc/modules.conf
[06:40] <witless> Hawkeye: actually i set up my own caching dns server - would an option be to enable ipv6 networking on that box?
[06:40] <bugz> Can anyone tell me how to edit xorg.conf so I can be able to use 1024x768 resolution?
[06:40] <hondje> !tell bugz about resolution
[06:41] <Seveas> bugz, copy an existing line with a resolutionn and edit the new one to say 1024x768
[06:41] <virtuel> Seveas, I've tried that for a different resolution (1400x1050), but it still doesn't show up
[06:41] <Determinist> ummm , how come i dont have /proc/pci?
[06:41] <Hawkeye> witless: perhaps, as long as the caching dns server forwards the request as ipv4 to your isp's dns server(s)
[06:41] <Hawkeye> put alias net-pf-10 off and alias ipv6 off in /etc/modules.conf
[06:42] <dr_willis> BACKUP your existing xorg.conf file befor ya mess with it. :P
[06:42] <Seveas> virtuel, you need to restart X for the line to show up
[06:42] <Hawkeye> virtuel: is that on a centrino laptop ? You'll have to run a hack to let the bios enable the 1400x1050 modeline
[06:43] <Brian_Boruma> how do i install a .run file
[06:43] <Brian_Boruma> i downloaded privateer
[06:43] <echelon> bb.
[06:43] <dr_willis> sh whatever.run
[06:43] <virtuel> Seveas, have restarted X, doesn't help
[06:43] <Brian_Boruma> from root term?
[06:44] <virtuel> Hawkeye, nope, this is on a desktop computer, athlon xp and an Eizo F520 display
[06:44] <virtuel> Hawkeye, I'm already running the same resolution in Win2k
[06:46] <Brian_Boruma> ok the sh comman + the file .run doesnt work
[06:47] <Hawkeye> chmod 744 myfile.run
[06:47] <Hawkeye> ./myfile.run
[06:47] <Belutz> !wifi
[06:47] <ubotu> wifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:48] <IIIEars> !ndis
[06:48] <ubotu> IIIEars: I don't know
[06:48] <Guest29> Hi, I really need some help folks
[06:48] <IIIEars> !ndiswrapper
[06:48] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[06:48] <NekoNeko> hey all
[06:48] <Guest29> I have burned the Ubuntu disc twice
[06:48] <Guest29> And each time I try and install... half way thru the base system I get...
[06:48] <Brian_Boruma> why?
[06:48] <Guest29> No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources
[06:49] <Guest29> The current default kernel package is 'kernel-image'
[06:49] <dr_willis> because they tend to be comercial junk :P and rarely seem to work well.
[06:49] <Guest29> What is wrong with it?
[06:49] <NekoNeko> 2 questions for the channel and I missed the answers in the faq I apologize  1)  How do I get java on mozilla? the forum stuff isn't working 2) whats the average turn around time from a new version of a program being made to it being on the package list?
[06:49] <thoreauputic> Guest29: check the md5sum of your iso and burned CD
[06:49] <Guest29> thoreauputic I burned this thing twice
[06:49] <Guest29> with 2 different programs
[06:49] <thoreauputic> Guest29: sounds like a bad download or burn
[06:49] <Guest29> on 2 different OS's
[06:49] <Guest29> and DOWNLOADED twice as well
[06:50] <Hawkeye> NekoNeko: 2) 6 months
[06:50] <virtuel> Guest29, does http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3444 help you?
[06:50] <Seveas> Guest29, check the md5sum of the iso and the burnt cd
[06:50] <thoreauputic> Guest29: *cough* md5sum *cough*
[06:50] <Guest29> I do not think this is a bad CD
[06:50] <Seveas> Guest29, and 'kernel-image' does not exist in Ubuntu
[06:50] <IIIEars> thoreauputic, - always diplomatic. :)
[06:50] <Guest29> Not when it is downloaded twice, burned twice, using 2 different programs and 2 different OS's
[06:50] <auk> hmm, i would like to know what the average package turn around is too :)
[06:50] <NekoNeko> Hawkeye any way to manually add the packages to the list then?
[06:51] <Seveas> Guest29, so you must have done something *really weird*
[06:51] <Guest29> Seveas thats the error I get
[06:51] <auk> Hawkeye: lol
[06:51] <thoreauputic> Guest29: have you read the advice several people have given yoU?
[06:51] <Guest29> I am looking at the link
[06:51] <IIIEars> Guext, - X86 machine yes?
[06:51] <Guest29> Yeah
[06:51] <Guest29> No raid
[06:51] <Hawkeye> NekoNeko: through third party repositories, but that's generally a pain in the ass. Ubuntu isn't designed to be on the bleeding edge for all packages throughout a certain release's lifetime
[06:51] <Brian_Boruma> i wan to run privateer linux but it is a .run
[06:51] <Brian_Boruma> i am puzzled
[06:52] <Guest29> 15.5 gig EXT3 partition, with 1gig swap
[06:52] <Brian_Boruma> i tried googling
[06:52] <Hawkeye> if you want a new firefox, gaim or whatever the day after it is released upstream, you shouldn't be running ubuntu, period
[06:52] <NekoNeko> bah that sucks
[06:52] <Brian_Boruma> im not being lazy
[06:52] <NekoNeko> going to have to find a different distro then
[06:52] <Hawkeye> debian sid, rawhide or gentoo will be something for you then
[06:52] <Brian_Boruma> privateer is wing commander game
[06:52] <auk> NekoNeko: ubutu updates packages for security etc, but it doesn' tjust take them fform upstream, they are ubuntu builds
[06:53] <Guest29> OK....
[06:53] <Hawkeye> Brian_Boruma: chmod it to 744, and then run it in a console "./myfile.run"
[06:53] <Guest29> The forum is saying this is a known bug
[06:53] <hondje> can someone run 'apt-cache show bmp-skins | grep Section' and let me know what it says?
[06:53] <Guest29> So is there a solution to this bug?
[06:53] <toad3030> what file for cedega is best for ubuntu???
[06:53] <NekoNeko> hawkeye gentoo isn't worth running anymore, been using it for 2 years and for the past 4 months nothing but problems
[06:53] <IIIEars> believe auk. - that is often a very good thing that ubuntu devs give them the once over
[06:53] <jantan21> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf <<<why ?
[06:53] <Hawkeye> that's generally what happens when you run on the bleeding edge. That's why some people prefer a stable system that stays the same and is supported for 1.5 years like ubuntu
[06:54] <Guest29> So far I am not too impressed with this distro
[06:54] <jantan21> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf <<<why not acces ?
[06:54] <Guest29> The fucker is buggy
[06:54] <Brian_Boruma> can i ask what chmod it to 744 means?
[06:54] <djp> why do people find the necessity to chase version numbers? surely a stable os is the name of the game? anyway, if you really feel the need to have the 'latest' version of everything, just download the source and compile yourself...
[06:54] <Brian_Boruma> lol
[06:54] <NekoNeko> yeah but I can't exactlly play games with other people of I havn't patched for 1.5 years ;)
[06:54] <auk> IIIEars: yes, bu ti think they shoudl add in more than just security updates, i like new features as well
[06:54] <Hawkeye> Guest29: don't blame your crappy southbridge/cdrom combo on ubuntu
[06:54] <Guest29> My what!?
[06:55] <Hawkeye> it's clearly a problem with the driver of your southbridge and or cdrom drive, most likely DMA related
[06:55] <Guest29> My CD-rom setup is not unusual
[06:55] <Brian_Boruma> what is it meaning?
[06:55] <Brian_Boruma> chmod it to 744?
[06:55] <Guest29> Look... I CAN install ANY other OS except for Ubuntu
[06:55] <Hawkeye> I'd suggest setting the cdrom as the master on the secondary IDE channel, and not attaching anything else on it
[06:55] <Hawkeye> Brian_Boruma: man chmod
[06:55] <IIIEars> auk - 2 releases a year. - two weeks ago a buggy firefox release was fixed in a few days. Quick!
[06:55] <NekoNeko> guest feel free to then
[06:55] <Guest29> I am on crummy LINDOWS right now trying to speak to you and get answers
[06:55] <hondje> Then file a bug report
[06:56] <Guest29> Hawkeye, why!?
[06:56] <auk> Brian_Boruma: chmod cahnges permissions, i am not sure exactly what 744 does
[06:56] <Guest29> This should not be an issue
[06:56] <Hawkeye> the 7 means you'll give Read Write and eXecute access to the binary for the owner of the file. (4 is read, 2 is write and 1 is execute, add them together: 7)
[06:56] <djp> Guest29: i had the same problem as you, although in reverse. i just stuck with the distro that best works for me. that happened to be Ubuntu.
[06:56] <dr_willis> sounds like the iso file may be bad.
[06:56] <jantan21> bash: /etc/cups/cupsd.conf: Permission denied <<<can u help me
[06:56] <auk> IIIEars: yes, i was VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY upset about the firefox bug
[06:57] <Landy> jantan21, are you root?
[06:57] <auk> but i do liek how quickly they fixed it--but that was also from upstream, was it not?
[06:57] <auk> the ubuntu devs didn't fix it
[06:57] <NekoNeko> at least on the good side for ubuntu, my mom who has never touched linux before was able to install it without my help ^^
[06:57] <Hawkeye> Guest29: in general, installers are very picky about cdrom drives. For example, I've seen installations fail, simply because the proper ordering of devices on the IDE cable hadn't been maintained (master on the outmost connector, slave on the middle one)
[06:57] <auk> NekoNeko: wow!
[06:58] <NekoNeko> auk, considering how little she knows and can't even install windows without help, I almost died from shock
[06:58] <dr_willis> "My Mom is l33ter then Your Mom!"
[06:58] <djp> NekoNeko: such an easy distro to install. so quick as well. but again, hardware issues are different for each individual
[06:58] <Landy> Ubuntu is very cool, easily the best desktop distro I have used
[06:58] <NekoNeko> yeah only issue is it didn't detect the wifi cards
[06:58] <djp> same here Landy
[06:58] <NekoNeko> but I've always had problems with any distro and wifi
[06:59] <jantan21> yes
[06:59] <faen> I have to say that ubuntu is sort of a tough transition from mandrake/mandriva
[06:59] <dr_willis> Wifi is the next incarnation of the WinModem Fiasco of the past. :(
[06:59] <jantan21> landy : yes
[06:59] <Landy> only issue I have is that it crashed today whilst installing epiphany, a quick reboot and a dpkg --configure -a sorted that though
[06:59] <jantan21> landy : yes, i am root
[06:59] <NekoNeko> faen, please don't compare anything to mandrake
[06:59] <hondje> It'd be easier if people would stop buying hardware that isn't supported
[06:59] <NekoNeko> only redhat is that bad
[07:00] <Landy> jantan21,  and its ubuntu yes?
[07:00] <Hawkeye> dr_willis: nah, most cards are much better supported these days than winmodems ever were or will be
[07:00] <NekoNeko> hondje the problem is how can you TELL (average USER here) what hardware is supported?
[07:00] <dr_willis> I dont even have a modem any more :P
[07:00] <faen> NekoNeko: I have used mandrake for quite some time and I guess I am just use to the look/feel of it
[07:00] <IIIEars> hondje - what wifi card is best for ubuntu?
[07:00] <NekoNeko> my users don't want to look up drivers for their stuff
[07:00] <NekoNeko> hence why they make me do it ._.
[07:00] <jantan21> landy : yes, it's ubuntu why ?
[07:00] <Mez|AWAY> someone wanted me ?
[07:00] <hondje> I know the problem won't go away, but it'd be easier
[07:00] <NekoNeko> faen, I tried mandrake and it did nothing but crash, redhat the same, fedora is a bit more stable
[07:00] <Landy> jantan21, because if I told you to do service cups restart it won't work
[07:01] <hondje> IIIEars: I've neverh ad problem with intel and cisco cards
[07:01] <faen> after a fresh install of Ubuntu I felt sort of naked and not in control of my box, with mandrake I feel like I have everything under control right out of the gate
[07:01] <NekoNeko> you can always get orinco cards
[07:01] <faen> however, i'm only 2 hours into ubuntu
[07:01] <IIIEars> hondje - thanks. :)
[07:01] <NekoNeko> the universal wifi cards
[07:01] <phixion> NekoNeko, you can't really compare like that :P I had no problem running either of them
[07:01] <faen> so i'll give it a bit of time
[07:01] <NekoNeko> compatible with anything :D
[07:01] <Landy> my distro life cycle went from, Slackware->SuSE->Mandrake->Fedora Core->Debian->Ubuntu
[07:01] <hondje> I'm way biased though
[07:02] <jantan21> where it's service cups restar
[07:02] <Hawkeye> IIIEars: cards with realtek chips (cheap dlink wireless cards) work to some extent too
[07:02] <hondje> I havent' used windows in 5+ years, so all my hardware is compatable
[07:02] <NekoNeko> phixion I tried it on 3 of my machines, I watched a classroom of 28 students try redhat and mandrake with a failure rate of about 80%
[07:02] <IIIEars> Nice to know :)
[07:02] <thoreauputic> faen: I came to Ubuntu via Mandrake, Knoppix and Debian - once you "get" it you won't feel that way any more
[07:02] <jantan21> and how service cups restar
[07:02] <NekoNeko> I eventually handed the teacher a knoppix cd so he could teach his class
[07:02] <Landy> jantan21, service cups restart is a command to restart the cups service, its red hat based though so don't waste your time. Ok, question 1, what are you trying to do
[07:02] <toad3030> can anybody tell me what cedega file is best for ubuntu pls???
[07:02] <agentm_> Hi- I am running hoary and I ran apt-get update but I can't install specific packages like libsdl-ttf1.2. Am I forgetting something?
[07:02] <hondje> toad3030: the debian one works fine
[07:02] <windex> NekoNeko: to be fair, most fresh college students prolly can't handle installing windows. :)
[07:03] <toad3030> thank you
[07:03] <dbernar1> hi
[07:03] <Landy> agentm_, so an apt-cache search <package name>
[07:03] <NekoNeko> windex, they were doing it right I was talking with the teach while he was doing class, about 10 machines just plain crashed on install
[07:03] <dr_willis> sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[07:03] <faen> thoreauputic: it would be nice got get a grasp on things as I need to get my servers up & running again shortly
[07:03] <jantan21> i don't command for service cups restar
[07:03] <faen> got = to
[07:03] <NekoNeko> actually kind of funny to see would be linux users cry after their 2 hours install dies >_>
[07:04] <Randall64> I swear my 2005fpw was evading my input selection.
[07:04] <Landy> dr_willis, don't give it all away just yet ;)
[07:04] <agentm_> Landy: no hits though the apt search on the ubuntu website says that it is available
[07:04] <windex> NekoNeko: ahh. make them use ubuntu then. it installed on my duron box with no questions except locale stuff and enter a username to log in with.
[07:04] <windex> NekoNeko: :)
[07:04] <IIIEars> < RH 5.0, RH 7.2, Slack, Fedora, Knoppix, then ubuntu. - only ubuntu has lasted for any length of time.
[07:04] <thoreauputic> faen: I suggest " sudo apt-get apt-howto" unless you are familiar with apt already
[07:04] <jantan21> * Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                         [ ok ]  <<<
[07:04] <NekoNeko> <3 my durons
[07:04] <dr_willis> cut and pasted straight from the Printing Howto/Wikis :P
[07:04] <hondje> College students are stupid :)
[07:04] <NekoNeko> great servers :D
[07:04] <thoreauputic> faen: oops sudo apt-get install
[07:04] <Landy> oh yeah, forgot about Knoppix, that was first
[07:04] <NekoNeko> I use knoppix std
[07:05] <faen> thoreauputic: i used apt every-so-often with mandrake 10.01 & greater
[07:05] <jantan21> what next
[07:05] <thoreauputic> faen: OK :)
[07:05] <windex> NekoNeko: the box i have running ubuntu, used an old 20gb disk from another box, but otherwise cost $220. it's a 1.6ghz duron with 512mb of ram. :P
[07:05] <agentm_> Landy: most other packages install fine...any ideas?
[07:05] <Landy> jantan21, what are you trying to do?
[07:05] <faen> I went back to urpmi tho
[07:05] <faen> just out of habit
[07:05] <faen> I guess
[07:05] <NekoNeko> lets see... redhat -> mandrake -> redhat -> debian -> suse -> openbsd -> gentoo -> freebsd -> knoppix std -> gentoo
[07:05] <thoreauputic> faen: IMO dpkg and apt are the keys to Ubuntu/Debian
[07:05] <NekoNeko> my linux cycle ^^
[07:06] <Landy> agentm_, the only thing I can think is that the package you want is in another set of packages. Maybe you need more sources in your apt repositories, not sure
[07:06] <IIIEars> windex - had to laugh when UT99 played better on 1.5ghz 384 ram than 2.7 760 ram with windows installed.
[07:06] <NekoNeko> getting bf to install linux also and he's a windows user
[07:06] <Landy> urpmi was cool
[07:06] <faen> I love urpmi
[07:06] <faen> it's quick for me
[07:06] <NekoNeko> we will not be under the yoke of oppresion that this microsoft propganda machine has created forever! mwhahahaha
[07:07] <faen> but i've been using rpm based distros since I started
[07:07] <windex> if you've ever administered more than 50 unix machines, apt/aptitude is the way to go. i used to be able to upgrade every machine in our office by scheduling a 5:30 to 7am outage window and usually being done way before 6:30.
[07:07] <Landy> NekoNeko, did you move to Linux because the Penguin is cute? :op Only joking, its just amazing how many girl users there are. HAng on, are you a girl?
[07:07] <Determinist> any simple way to make xmms play mp3 files?
[07:07] <NekoNeko> yes I am
[07:07] <NekoNeko> and tux is cute ;)
[07:07] <the--dud> the only operative systems I've had for any great lenght on workstations are slackware, debian, freebsd and ubuntu
[07:07] <windex> my wife isin't leet enough to use linux.
[07:07] <Randall64> That reminds me: I want to see March of the Penguins.
[07:07] <IIIEars> windex - Best distributed disk image application?
[07:08] <Landy> Determinist, there is a way for fedora by adding another apt repository (or maybe yum) and then installing xmms from there. One second
[07:08] <Randall64> My wife is a trained computer professional, which means she doesn't touch a computer at home.
[07:08] <the--dud> my sister used linux for a short while, but she wanted games sigh
[07:08] <tech>  is there any cool games you can recommend me to apt-get? :)
[07:08] <NekoNeko> slackware lasted 5 seconds with me before I formated it...
[07:08] <thoreauputic> Determinist: set the ouyput plugin to esound
[07:08] <jasoncohen> Randall64, i saw it in princeton. it was quite good
[07:08] <faen> I decided to check ubuntu out after reading about it a few places, otherwise I prolly would have just gone to some sort of BSD
[07:08] <dr_willis> MP3: Due to licensing restrictions, MP3 support couldn't be included by default in Ubuntu. To enable MP3 support you need to install gstreamer0.8-mad which is included in the Universe repository.
[07:08] <hondje> I bought my ex a mac because I got tired of having to run apt-get for her
[07:08] <faen> net or free, i'm guessing
[07:08] <hondje> a couple years of that and it was worth paying Jobs
[07:08] <Determinist> Landy, for feora it's yum install xmms-mp3 , but i'm using ubuntu right now :P
[07:08] <Determinist> thoreauputic, thanks
[07:08] <dr_willis> thats from -->  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia?highlight=%28multimedia%29
[07:08] <Landy> Determinist, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/114094
[07:08] <tech> the--dud, my sister used linux because she wanted games.. she likes the kde games :)
[07:08] <IIIEars> G4U looks interesting - sadly it? BSD. a little intimidating. a lot of new commands to learn
[07:08] <NekoNeko> dr_willis gstreamer-mad installed by default on mine >_>
[07:08] <the--dud> hehe, those kde games are neat ;)
[07:09] <dr_willis> NekoNeko,  good for you.. heres a cookie. :P
[07:09] <hondje> IIIEars: If linux doesn't cause you headache, BSD won't either
[07:09] <NekoNeko> yay cookies :D
[07:09] <the--dud> although I myself prefer the bsdgames myself hehe
[07:09] <dr_willis> That reminds me.. i need to go get some Groceries.
[07:09] <elph0> hi all
[07:09] <the--dud> nice cli games <3
[07:09] <hondje> the--dud: atc rocks
[07:09] <NekoNeko> bsd is a bit harder to get used to off the bat then linux
[07:09] <Randall64> "than"
[07:09] <the--dud> well, I use freebsd on all my enterprise servers
[07:09] <NekoNeko> shush :P
[07:09] <elph0> someone here have this hardware running: Texas
[07:09] <elph0> Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller ?
[07:09] <windex> IIIEars: we had a iscsi gfs array and a debian recovery CD w/ gfs support. mount GFS, chroot, format disks, copy directories over and preserve attributes, tweak fstab on new disks to mount the application-specific iscsi gfs partition, install grub, done.
[07:10] <Hawkeye> bsd is easy once you install a proper shell and understand how to install ports
[07:10] <NekoNeko> ubuntu was a bit hard for me off that bat cuase I was trying to find root....
[07:10] <NekoNeko> didn't read the manual ^^
[07:10] <MarcN_> For some reason I not longer have a background image until I manually start nautilus.  What got screwed up?
[07:10] <the--dud> freebsd just feel wonderfully right for any servers imho
[07:10] <the--dud> secure, fast and most important logical
[07:10] <Landy> if anyone is talking to me and I've not replied and they are waiting, pm me as I've lost track now :S
[07:10] <hondje> MarcN_: gnome 'should' start nautilus for the desktop, so dunno how you turned that off :)
[07:10] <jantan21> i can't Network Printing From WinXP
[07:10] <NekoNeko> bsd == no compile time
[07:10] <hondje> *BSD is dying
[07:10] <NekoNeko> I so wish mosix was 2.6 compatible :(
[07:11] <MarcN_> hondje: well, it wasn't intentionally.
[07:11] <IIIEars> the--dud - the process "jail"is interesting. - grin
[07:11] <Hawkeye> but bsd is such a niche for the desktop. There's no compelling reason whatsoever to run *bsd over a linux based distro the way I see it
[07:11] <Landy> jantan21, how do you know its a cups issue and not samba?
[07:11] <Hawkeye> mostly due to the lack of updated drivers for hardware
[07:11] <NekoNeko> hondje, most data centers give you a choice between, redhat, bsd or windows
[07:11] <NekoNeko> so why would you NOT choose bsd
[07:11] <dabaR> MarcN_: what are you missing?
[07:11] <jantan21> i don't know
[07:11] <hondje> Because I prefer debian
[07:11] <windex> Hawkeye: freebsd supported using my fasttrak100 as a hardware raid device out of the box. no linux distro i've used does.
[07:11] <NekoNeko> lol
[07:11] <Landy> Hawkeye, haven't I seen you in the Mandrake irc channel or maybe even #lfd?
[07:11] <IIIEars> hondje - possibly still there is gnu/bsd debian apps on an BSD kernel.
[07:12] <Hawkeye> why NOT ? For starters, it doesn't support agpgart on my nforce2 for example
[07:12] <hondje> Yeah, but not worth it to me
[07:12] <NekoNeko> linux for desktop/server bsd for server windows for laughs at human futility and mac for sexy box
[07:12] <hondje> I'm lazy, that's why I run ubuntu
[07:12] <MarcN_> dabaR: looks like nautilus didn't start on login.  If I manually start it (either by nautilus or click to open a folder), no background image.
[07:12] <Hawkeye> Landy: doubtful, the last Mandrake I ever installed was the good old mandrake 7.0
[07:12] <hondje> debian for the webserver because I trust it more...apt-get and forget
[07:12] <dabaR> you want the background image and your icons?
[07:12] <jantan21> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf <<why not access ?
[07:12] <faen> Hawkeye: that's what I started on
[07:12] <Landy> sure I've seen you around, which forums do you frequent Hawkeye
[07:12] <windex> NekoNeko: ubuntu reminds me a lot of os x in the way it behaves. not that it's a bad thing. i just wish i knew how to configure natulus (spelling?) to not close the parent window, cos thats annoying. sometimes.
[07:12] <NekoNeko> but isn't debian package system out of date all the time?
[07:13] <dabaR> yes|no
[07:13] <Hawkeye> I do not frequent any english speaking forums on linux distributions
[07:13] <jantan21> pleace help me
[07:13] <IIIEars> For a home based server run any OS you like.. - so long as it is run from RAM and a live CD. - lol
[07:13] <dabaR> jantan21: tried sudo
[07:13] <dabaR> ?
[07:13] <Hawkeye> so really, you must be mistaking me for someone else
[07:13] <Razor-X> windex: that's because Ubuntu is a Linux distro, therefore UNIX Deviant, OS X is BSD based, therefore UNIX based ;)
[07:13] <Landy> Hawkeye, must be someone else then, kill all with your nick :v
[07:13] <hondje> windex: yo uwant the parent to stay open?
[07:13] <NekoNeko> windex, I can't say much for ubuntu atm since I only used it for an hour yesterday trying to get java on mozilla
[07:13] <Razor-X> NekoNeko: Debian potato is out of date... Debian sarge isn't
[07:14] <IIIEars> Razor-X - (high fives!)
[07:14] <windex> Razor-X: i am aware of that, i am talking about the way its setup to deal with superuser tasks and the layout of the desktop.
[07:14] <NekoNeko> difference?
[07:14] <elph0> someone could help me?
[07:14] <dabaR> MarcN_: are you saying your nautilus opens with no desktop image or icons?
[07:14] <Razor-X> NekoNeko: one is supposedly safer than the other
[07:14] <NekoNeko> last time I used dabian was a long time ago
[07:14] <hondje> windex: run this in a terminal: "gconftool-2 --type bool --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/no_ubuntu_spatial true"
[07:14] <NekoNeko> and we only had one package system and it sucked
[07:14] <Razor-X> of course, you _will_ be safer using 4 year old packages
[07:14] <jantan21> bash: tried: command not found
[07:14] <NekoNeko> don't need safer
[07:14] <jasoncohen> NekoNeko, that's easy- all you have to do is sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 from hoary-extras or make your own deb with java-package
[07:14] <Landy> jantan21, do the following ls -l /etc/cups/ and paste the output in a private message to me or in #flood
[07:14] <jantan21> bash: tried: command not found <<<warning
[07:14] <Razor-X> NekoNeko: Potato has been available probably almost as long as i've been alive
[07:14] <NekoNeko> need cutting edge for my games
[07:14] <windex> hondje: ill break that eventually.
[07:14] <NekoNeko> jasoncohen that failed
[07:15] <jasoncohen> NekoNeko, what did?
[07:15] <faen> hmm, coming from fluxbox into gnome is quite starling too, how do you update menus in gnome?
[07:15] <windex> Razor-X: hahahaha.
[07:15] <hondje> windex: just cut and paste it, and it won't change back to closing the parent until you want it to
[07:15] <NekoNeko> the sudo one
[07:15] <MarcN_> dabaR: I believed that nautilus is started when you log in.  When I log in the background is black.  If I start nautilus, the background appears.
[07:15] <jasoncohen> NekoNeko, well, did you ever add the hoary-extras source?
[07:15] <NekoNeko> don't think so
[07:15] <Amaranth> faen: They're supposed to update automagically. In reality, most of the time this doesn't work and you need to log out and back in or kill gnome-panel.
[07:15] <jasoncohen> so of course it's going to fail
[07:15] <NekoNeko> was a base install with bells and whistles
[07:15] <HappyFool> Razor-X: I installed ERC 5 -- scrolltobottom mode works perfectly
[07:15] <emrys_> Hi there
[07:15] <MarcN_> dabaR: so I think nautilus is not starting properly.
[07:15] <dabaR> MarcN_: when yuo login, are there icons on the desktop.
[07:15] <jasoncohen> NekoNeko, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingMultimediaRepositories
[07:15] <Hawkeye> extract the jre from sun's java site to /opt, and place a symlink to the .so file in the plugin directory from mozilla's plugin directory. Presto
[07:15] <faen> ahh, k thanks Amaranth
[07:15] <refuze2loose> i have an iso file which i mounted, and there's a program that tries to access the cdrom drive and i want it to use the mounted iso file. how can i do this?
[07:16] <jasoncohen> NekoNeko, follow the instructions there and then sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[07:16] <IIIEars> faen - google amaranth's "smeg"simple menu editor for gnome.
[07:16] <MarcN_> dabaR: I forget.  Gimme a sec and I'll relogin.
[07:16] <NekoNeko> bah let me go grab that laptop
[07:16] <dabaR> ok
[07:16] <dabaR> second sounds reasonable
[07:16] <NekoNeko> crappy 200mhz laptop at that lol
[07:16] <emrys_> Can I make a question about evince?
[07:16] <hondje> !smeg
[07:16] <ubotu> I heard smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[07:16] <faen> rgr
[07:16] <Amaranth> IIIEars: haha
[07:16] <dabaR> ;[
[07:16] <Amaranth> IIIEars: I guess I misunderstood him.
[07:16] <windex> Razor-X: actually using really old packages could .. maybe .. be less secure. it might be more stable and predictable (e.g. firefox always crashed X on potato for me when i had more than 3 tabs open and launched a java app), but it's also had several times as much effort into finding bugs in its codebase.
[07:17] <MarcN_> dabaR: back.  Nothing except chocolate color on the background.
[07:17] <IIIEars> Amaranth - ?? - SMEG is great.
[07:17] <MarcN_> dabaR: and no nautilus process
[07:17] <dabaR> MarcN_: lets try this then, Apps>SystemTools>ConfEditor...
[07:18] <Razor-X> back
[07:18] <MarcN_> dabaR: yes..
[07:18] <jantan21> bash: flood: command not found
[07:18] <Razor-X> HappyFool: ahhh, it's a repos thingie?
[07:18] <emrys_> There is some way to print only Odd/Even pages with Evince???
[07:18] <Razor-X> so, now the input bar stays at the bottom?
[07:18] <dabaR> MarcN_: apps>nautilus
[07:18] <dabaR> Prefs
[07:18] <dabaR> Hows your show desktop?
[07:19] <HappyFool> Razor-X: nah, from their site (sf.net, i think). put it in ~/.emacs.d/erc, and added that to my load-path
[07:19] <MarcN_> dabaR: what should I look for in prefs?
[07:19] <Razor-X> HappyFool: exactly, so the repos erc was bad?
[07:19] <HappyFool> Razor-X: err
[07:19] <dabaR> ^
[07:19] <MarcN_> ah, show desktop is checked.
[07:19] <HappyFool> Razor-X: old, not bad
[07:19] <MarcN_> dabaR:  ah, show desktop is checked.
[07:19] <Razor-X> errr, old
[07:19] <Razor-X> yeah
[07:19] <Razor-X> HappyFool: i'm trying out zsh now
[07:19] <HappyFool> what's that?
[07:19] <Razor-X> HappyFool: can you package erc and submit it to the maintainers?
[07:19] <Hawkeye> a powerful shell
[07:20] <Razor-X> it's an alternate shell
[07:20] <Razor-X> it's supposed to be powerful
[07:20] <nightswim> zsh is nice
[07:20] <Hawkeye> the problem is that it doesn't support utf-8 well last time I tried
[07:20] <Razor-X> yet, a more apt name is ``The Lazy Man's shell''
[07:20] <Landy> jantan21, in this irc session type /join #flood
[07:20] <Razor-X> my Term doesen't support UTF-8 ;)
[07:20] <refuze2loose> how can i make a program trying to access my cdrom drive access a mounted iso file instead? it doesn't allow me to choose cdrom dir
[07:20] <Hawkeye> you can mimmick most of zsh's behavior through the bash-completion package though
[07:20] <Razor-X> Hawkeye: it can do arrays?
[07:20] <Hawkeye> bash ? Sure
[07:21] <Razor-X> hmmm, never knew that
[07:21] <Razor-X> it can't do command editing, AFIAK
[07:21] <IIIEars> refuze2loose, cloop command?
[07:21] <jantan21> why join flood?
[07:21] <Razor-X> Hawkeye: and on utf-8, I believe screen fixes that
[07:21] <Hawkeye> no, that vi command editing is nice
[07:21] <IIIEars> !pastebin
[07:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[07:21] <refuze2loose> IIIEars, you mean mount ..... -o loop ? that's what i did
[07:22] <IIIEars> refuze2loose, - Ah - thats it.
[07:22] <yonil> anyone experienced with patching the kernel ?
[07:22] <Hawkeye> Razor-X: hmm, that might be, never tried it. I don't run UTF-8 regardless though, it's just a pain in the ass with older programs
[07:22] <Determinist> how do i restart xorg?
[07:22] <refuze2loose> IIIEars, yeah that's what i did from the beginning but it didn't work.. i think it's probably trying to access my cdrom drive through /dev/hdc?
[07:23] <emrys_> How can I print only Odd/Even pages with Evince? It seems that the Gnome PFD readers don't have this option... ??
[07:23] <thoreauputic> Determinist: ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:23] <Hawkeye> hah
[07:23] <yonil> I've patched the kernel, got a new vmlinuz-2.6.10 file, but i dont know how do i get an initrd file .. anyone ?
[07:23] <Randall64> yonil: I use kernel-package to do it ...
[07:23] <HappyFool> yonil: does the kernel howto not cover this?
[07:24] <Razor-X> also, zsh's subshell behavior is awesome
[07:24] <elph0> Someone know what module i can use for Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller ?
[07:24] <Razor-X> like I said before, even if you use emacs, screen underneath is a godsend
[07:24] <IIIEars> mkdir /mnt/test && mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/test ?
[07:24] <MarcN_> dabaR: Hmm.  I started nautilus, then logged out making sure to 'save settings' and now nautilus starts on login.  Does gnome cache something? I usually finish using the laptop by pressing the off button (which causes a shutdown now)
[07:25] <sorush20> what does fi stand for..
[07:25] <dr_willis> ends an IF clause
[07:25] <dr_willis> if -> fi
[07:25] <Determinist> what's backports?
[07:25] <yonil> HappyFool, which kernel howto ?
[07:25] <HappyFool> !kernelhowto
[07:25] <ubotu> well, kernelhowto is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto
[07:25] <HappyFool> yonil: that one ;)
[07:25] <IIIEars> erm "/media/test - sheesh. - a nap sounds awfully good right now.
[07:25] <yonil> :P
[07:25] <dabaR> no idea
[07:26] <dabaR> good work.
[07:26] <roberto> where is mkfontdir in breezy ?
[07:26] <IIIEars> G'nite! :)
[07:26] <Randall64> It is about nap-thirty.
[07:27] <tulio> hello. if I have installed LILO, how can I do to use dual boot to start WinXP?
[07:27] <sorush20> guys I keep getting this error when I try to install KDAR
[07:27] <sorush20> I've pasted it into flood... can someone help please... it happenes when I mak efile..
[07:28] <yonil> HappyFool, bhaa I haven't done anything like what's described in that tutorial ...
[07:29] <HappyFool> sorush20: i'll take a look, if you paste it again
[07:29] <jasoncohen> NekoNeko, did you get java installed?
[07:29] <elph0> netsplit?
[07:30] <sorush20> tanks happyfool... your always in here helping people....
[07:30] <NekoNeko> jasoncohen not yet
[07:30] <NekoNeko> I keep using the wrong keyboard lol
[07:30] <sorush20> Three chears for happyfool...
[07:30] <sorush20> hip hip.. horay...
[07:30] <sorush20> hip hip.. horay...
[07:30] <sorush20> hip hip.. horay...
[07:30] <HappyFool> sorush20: scariesh error
[07:30] <HappyFool> oh, i'm blushing :P
[07:30] <jantan21> hallow can u help me
[07:31] <procrastinator> hi guys
[07:31] <sorush20> happy fool.. what was the problem...
[07:31] <NekoNeko> it's the whole thing where you copy and paste and relize your mouse doesn't move from one machine to the other >_>
[07:31] <sorush20> happyfool.. what do you mean scariesh error.
[07:31] <procrastinator> Is it possible to configure beep mp to use esd? (without esddsp)
[07:31] <HappyFool> sorush20: i mean i haven't seen an error like that before
[07:32] <sorush20> happy fool... should IM you all the errors..
[07:32] <PrimoTurbo_> Does anyone know how I can get the cd player to work?
[07:32] <emrys_> Someone can help me please?
[07:32] <PrimoTurbo_> I can play ogg files but I can't seem to play cds
[07:32] <HappyFool> sorush20: 1 possibility is that you're missing a library; another is that the program is buggy
[07:33] <HappyFool> sorush20: what's the kdar homepage? where'd you get the source?
[07:34] <PrimoTurbo_> I also tried Totem and it give me an error when I try playing a cd
[07:34] <PrimoTurbo_> Totem could not play 'cdda://'.
[07:34] <PrimoTurbo_> Could not open resource for writing.
[07:34] <sorush20> Happyfool, but I don't know how to obtain the library... the only way is by installing the  here is the home pagehttp://kdar.sourceforge.net/...
[07:34] <PrimoTurbo_> Any idea why?
[07:35] <jantan21> NetworkPrintingFromWinXP <<< help me
[07:35] <HappyFool> sorush20: have you installed libdar-dev ?
[07:35] <jasoncohen> NekoNeko, got it working i see?
[07:35] <PrimoTurbo_> I have 2 cd drives and it doesn't for any of them, but I can rip the music into ogg to listen to it
[07:35] <NekoNeko> so far
[07:35] <NekoNeko> ^^
[07:36] <black13> what does the xorg error (EE) Failed to load module "bitmap" (module does not exist, 0) mean ?
[07:36] <NekoNeko> last time it just died on me when I tried without that sources.list change
[07:36] <needlz> hi can anyone tell me where i can get jpeglib.h? im trying to install enlightenment on ubuntu 5.04
[07:36] <NekoNeko> can I use the built in gui now to get the same package list?
[07:37] <HappyFool> needlz: probably the libjpeg62-dev package
[07:37] <Randall64> needlz: apt-get installl apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search jpeglib.h
[07:37] <PrimoTurbo_> Does anyone else ever had cd player problems, not being able to play audio cds
[07:37] <needlz> HappyFool: i got the libjpeg6 package...di you think i should try the dev version?
[07:38] <HappyFool> needlz: yeah, header files and build libraries are almost always in -dev packages
[07:38] <sorush20> happyfool, yes I have... I have version.. 2.5.1 and I'm just going to reinstall it..
[07:38] <sorush20> happyfool, should I run the make again..
[07:38] <HappyFool> sorush20: you mean 2.1.5 ?
[07:38] <needlz> ok thank you very much HappyFool
[07:38] <HappyFool> sorush20: ah
[07:38] <witless> i've commented out the ipv6 line in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases, renamed ipv6.ko, run update-modules, rebooted - and networking is still ridiculously slow... any suggestions?
[07:38] <testing> hello my friends
[07:39] <HappyFool> sorush20: you need libdar 3.0.0
[07:39] <sorush20> what.. where does it say that...
[07:39] <HappyFool> sorush20: so if you want this to work, you'll need to install libdar from source
[07:39] <HappyFool> sorush20: bit of a pain
[07:39] <HappyFool> sorush20: on the kdar doc page -- stand by
[07:39] <testing> does anybody know what C compiler i should use with Ubuntu ?
[07:39] <HappyFool> sorush20: http://kdar.sourceforge.net/kdar-html-docs/requirements.html
[07:39] <HappyFool> testing: gcc
[07:39] <HappyFool> testing: installed the 'build-essential' package
[07:40] <testing> ok, thank you
[07:40] <testing> i used gcc with fedora before and it worked fine
[07:40] <PrimoTurbo_> test
[07:40] <PrimoTurbo> forgot I had another one open
[07:40] <thechitowncubss> How can I repair my ext3 filesystem? It failed on the automatic check.
[07:41] <HappyFool> PrimoTurbo: mine cd player worked without fiddling
[07:41] <HappyFool> PrimoTurbo: how are you trying to play the cds ?
[07:42] <PrimoTurbo> putting them into the drive
[07:42] <PrimoTurbo> then opening cd player and trying to play it
[07:42] <PrimoTurbo> i tried switching cd drives also doesn't work
[07:42] <HappyFool> you have two drives?
[07:43] <PrimoTurbo> yeah
[07:43] <PrimoTurbo> I tried both
[07:43] <PrimoTurbo> and tried switching the settings
[07:43] <PrimoTurbo> because u need to do it if u want to use the second one
[07:43] <highvoltage> quick #ubuntu poll: what's a nice, light x-terminal emulator?
[07:43] <nightswim> aterm
[07:43] <MarcN> highvoltage: xterm?
[07:43] <Landy> anyone know how to get the ubuntu kernel source using apt?
[07:43] <nightswim> aterm is lighter
[07:44] <thechitowncubss> !ext3
[07:44] <ubotu> No idea, thechitowncubss
[07:44] <HappyFool> Landy: maybe the kernel howto will tell you
[07:44] <HappyFool> !kernelhowto
[07:44] <ubotu> kernelhowto is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto
[07:44] <Landy> maybe it will
[07:44] <auk> hehe, stupid bot
[07:44] <Landy> cheers
[07:44] <testing> anybody know how can i make the background of my teminal transparent in ubuntu ?
[07:44] <auk> !fs
[07:44] <ubotu> auk: No idea
[07:44] <highvoltage> MarcN: can I copy and paste from xterm to firefox?
[07:44] <HappyFool> PrimoTurbo: hmm. is either drive directly connected to the sound card?
[07:44] <hondje> testing: right click, edit current profile
[07:44] <MarcN> highvoltage: xterm is the granddaddy of all terminal emulators.
[07:44] <testing> ok
[07:45] <testing> thank you hondje
[07:45] <hondje> you're welcome
[07:45] <MarcN> (and xterm has the look-n-feel to prove it)
[07:45] <PrimoTurbo> Yeah they both are connected
[07:45] <PrimoTurbo> they work in windows and other linux
[07:45] <HappyFool> PrimoTurbo: i'm not helluva sure how cd player handles two cd-drives
[07:45] <highvoltage> MarcN: yes, i'm using xterm at the moment, but i cant copy and paste from it, so i want something that has a bit more features.
[07:46] <PrimoTurbo> I know they are setup fine because I don't have problem with the cd player on other linux distros and on windows
[07:46] <PrimoTurbo> i'll try a retail cd just to be sure
[07:46] <PrimoTurbo> cause I've tried 3 burnt ones so far
[07:46] <testing> thank you everybody
[07:46] <HappyFool> PrimoTurbo: ok, have you tried clicking on the little 'toolbox' icon in cd player, and chaning the device setting there?
[07:46] <PrimoTurbo> yes I have
[07:46] <kevin_> Can someone help me fix my wireless mouse ?:o)
[07:47] <kevin_> its got a mind of its own in ubuntu!:D
[07:47] <HappyFool> PrimoTurbo: ok, what happens when you press play?
[07:47] <MarcN> highvoltage: select something, then use MB-2 to paste it.
[07:47] <PrimoTurbo> nothing happens
[07:47] <jantan21> help pleace ?
[07:47] <jantan21> :(
[07:47] <black13> what does the xorg error (EE) Failed to load module "bitmap" (module does not exist, 0) mean ?
[07:47] <PrimoTurbo> nothing moves it just goes from pause button to play button again
[07:47] <admin_> hi
[07:47] <PrimoTurbo> no error or anything
[07:47] <jantan21> any body help me
[07:47] <kevin_> jantan21, with ?:D
[07:47] <HappyFool> PrimoTurbo: hmm, so it's not a sound volume thing
[07:48] <tulio> hello. I have installed lilo, but I want to use grub, How can I use it? It is because I nedd dual boot. Thanks
[07:48] <mebaran> hey
[07:48] <mebaran> could anyone help me with an alsa problem
[07:48] <jantan21> NetworkPrintingFromWinXP ??
[07:48] <mebaran> my alsa modules are loaded
[07:48] <black13> grub makes a better dual boot
[07:48] <PrimoTurbo> yeah it's not
[07:48] <jantan21> kevin : NetworkPrintingFromWinXP ??
[07:48] <mebaran> but they dont make the /dev/dsp
[07:48] <HappyFool> PrimoTurbo: i'm running out of ideas. you can maybe look in /var/log/dmesg to see if the kernel is complaining about something, but i'm guessing it's something at a higher level
[07:48] <kevin_> dunno Jantan21 not got a xp box running :s
[07:49] <kevin_> try google ?:)
[07:49] <mebaran> what can I do
[07:49] <sophtpaw> does anyone know if one can run ubuntu directly on the new mac mini?
[07:49] <mebaran> amixer complains of an invalid card number
[07:49] <Randall64> mebaran: even the alsa oss modules are loaded?
[07:50] <mebaran> Randall64, yep
[07:50] <DekaPink> Daaaamn it. Now 3D works, but I can't open video files. --;
[07:50] <Randall64> alsa continues to suck
[07:50] <birratix> hi
[07:50] <mebaran> snd_pcm_oss is loaded
[07:50] <PrimoTurbo> KsCD plays the cd but I have no sound and Tottem gives me an error
[07:50] <jantan21> dunno Jantan21 not got a xp box running :s <<< what u mind ?
[07:50] <PrimoTurbo> someone is suggesting to try gstreamer
[07:50] <mebaran> I think I am going to move to gentoo ... argh
[07:51] <tulio> how can i configure lilio to use dual boot?
[07:51] <Randall64> ugh, lilo
[07:51] <Kamzi> tulio: don't you have grub installed ?
[07:51] <HappyFool> tulio: isn't there an /etc/lilo.conf ?
[07:51] <binky> 'lilio'?
[07:51] <HappyFool> tulio: maybe 'man lilo' or 'man lilo.conf' will tell you more
[07:51] <Randall64> Also, use grub.
[07:52] <kevin_> Can someone help me fix my wireless mouse ?:o)
[07:52] <Kamzi> binky: lilo stand for linuc loader it is what loads your operating system
[07:52] <postmodern> where can i find all the updates for Hoary alone
[07:52] <Butterfly> .geeknode.org
[07:52] <Kamzi> use synatic
[07:53] <binky> i know, i just liked the way it was mis-spelt!!!
[07:53] <DekaPink> mplayer doesn't love me anymore.
[07:53] <wdh> Kamzi, having problems typing?
[07:53] <wdh> :P
[07:53] <HappyFool> postmodern: do you want to install the updates, or do something else?
[07:53] <Kamzi> wdh: don't know what you could possibly mean :-)
[07:54] <binky> lol
[07:54] <postmodern> HappyFool, I want to burn them onto a cdrom
[07:54] <nelsongs> can somebody please help me?
[07:54] <PrimoTurbo> how do I install gstreamer from terminal
[07:54] <nelsongs> i  just installed ubuntu on my hp laptop
[07:54] <kevin_> apt-get install blah ?:/
[07:54] <nelsongs> dv4000
[07:54] <Randall64> Primo: man apt-get
[07:54] <PrimoTurbo> k
[07:54] <nelsongs> but there's no display
[07:55] <kevin_> apt-get install gstreamer
[07:55] <PrimoTurbo> k thnx
[07:55] <Randall64> nelsongs: no console either?
[07:55] <PrimoTurbo> I need sudo too right?
[07:55] <nelsongs> there's a console
[07:55] <nelsongs> coz i could hear the drums
[07:55] <Kamzi> primo: yeah
[07:55] <Randall64> nelsongs: login and look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors
[07:55] <HappyFool> PrimoTurbo: i imagine some parts of gstreamer are already installed -- e.g., it's needed by 'music player'
[07:55] <znh> can someone confirm this cron deamon as a working one:      29 20 * * * init 0
[07:55] <cs378> ahhhh
[07:55] <kevin_> Can any one help me with my wireless mouse >:D
[07:56] <cs378> what kind of compile i need to install in order to install build essential
[07:56] <HappyFool> znh: should run 'init 0' at 20h29 every day
[07:56] <binky> reconnect the wires....sorry could not resist!!!
[07:56] <Belutz> how do see webpages that don't support firefox ??
[07:57] <znh> HappyFool: the minutes start from 0
[07:57] <gcolpart> I have this error when I use totem-gstreamer : "GStreamer-ERROR **: file gsturi.c: line 427 (search_by_entry): assertion failed: (protocols)"
[07:57] <toad3030> can someone pls help me install cedega?
[07:57] <Randall64> Belutz: Install the user agent extension to fool the stupid sites.
[07:57] <znh> HappyFool: but are cron's done  by a root user?
[07:57] <gcolpart> It crashes totem...
[07:57] <Belutz> Randall64: ok...
[07:57] <HappyFool> znh: only root's, afaik
[07:57] <gcolpart> Any idea ? :)
[07:57] <HappyFool> znh: not following that 'minutes start from zero' comment
[07:58] <nelsongs> Randall1164: what specific error should i look into?
[07:58] <zerboxx> I want to perminantly do "hdparm -d1 /dev/hda" how do I go about doing this?
[07:58] <znh> HappyFool: well you say should run 'init 0' at 20h29 every day, should be 19h30 - because the numbers are in a range of 0-29 for the minutes, and 0-23 for the hours
[07:58] <Randall64> nelsongs: You'll really have to look at all of them for clues.
[07:58] <PrimoTurbo> well gstream is not a package?
[07:59] <MrGardenHoseMan> what's the nero like burning program called
[07:59] <PrimoTurbo> gstreamer*
[07:59] <HappyFool> znh: 0 to 59 for minutes, says my copy of 'man 5 crontab'
[07:59] <MrGardenHoseMan> keep forgetting
[07:59] <MrGardenHoseMan> k**
[07:59] <HappyFool> znh: and minutes are naturally 0 to 59 ;)
[07:59] <znh> HappyFool: oh doh, yea - xD
[07:59] <nelsongs> Randall1164: my laptop has 915 chipset
[07:59] <znh> HappyFool: I didn't smoke, really.. :-P
[08:00] <binky> maybe you should!!!
[08:00] <znh> i did five minutes ago ;-)
[08:00] <zerboxx> Belutz: Did you get it? (user agent switcher)
[08:00] <binky> lol....need another one!!!
[08:00] <HappyFool> PrimoTurbo: gstreamer is a library, not really an app
[08:00] <znh> HappyFool: to be seriouse again, then it should be 29 19  * * * /sbin/init 0 right?
[08:01] <PrimoTurbo> I know it's not an app
[08:01] <witless> i've commented out the ipv6 line in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases, renamed ipv6.ko, run update-modules, rebooted - and networking is still ridiculously slow... any suggestions?
[08:01] <DekaPink> Rawr.
[08:01] <PrimoTurbo> I know HappyFool
[08:01] <DekaPink> totem and mplayer have stopped working. :3
[08:01] <znh> DekaPink: VLC is the answer!
[08:01] <MrGardenHoseMan> vlc > *
[08:01] <Belutz> zerboxx: yup... just installed it... but still can use the webpages... i think they created using some scripts that only supports IE
[08:02] <znh> MrGardenHoseMan: :-)
[08:02] <zerboxx> ah
[08:02] <Kamzi> dekapink: what do you mean stopped working ?
[08:02] <HappyFool> znh: will run at 19h29 -- i don't know what 'init 0' does
[08:02] <nelsongs> Randall1164: ??
[08:02] <Belutz> zerboxx: any other solution?
[08:02] <HappyFool> znh: you can test by putting in something like 'ls' there -- it will mail you the output of the command
[08:02] <znh> HappyFool: it's like shutting down :-D
[08:02] <DekaPink> Kamzi: Well, totem says it can't start up because a resource is busy or unavailable, and mplayer freezes when I try to open things with it.
[08:02] <zerboxx> Belutz: No, that's the only one I know of
[08:02] <HappyFool> znh: isn't that telinit? same thing?
[08:02] <holycow> Belutz how do see webpages that don't support firefox ??  <-- that should actually say 'how do you read webpages that don't support web standards'
[08:02] <holycow> :)
[08:03] <Belutz> zerboxx: or i MUST switch to my lousy windows?
[08:03] <MrGardenHoseMan> znh: yeah, totem and mplayer both are just missing something
[08:03] <znh> HappyFool: didn't knew that exist.. this is #ubuntu right :-/ ?
[08:03] <zerboxx> Belutz: *shudder* it may appear as such
[08:03] <tulio> it seems lilo detected windows, but it doesnt allow me to choose which OS boot
[08:03] <HappyFool> znh: yip
[08:03] <HappyFool> znh: telinit is just another name for init, afaik
[08:03] <Belutz> holycow: well the webpages told me i MUST use IE, and i can't use IE in linux
[08:03] <DekaPink> It happened after I did http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495 and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=206829&postcount=87
[08:03] <HappyFool> znh: see 'man telinit'
[08:03] <Kamzi> DekaPink: i: well being the n00b i am i can only suggest updating everything , and reporting the error on bug zilla and maybe trying realplayer
[08:04] <Belutz> damn webpages!!
[08:04] <sorush20> happyfool.. now I'm trying to install DAR so that I can get the libdar 3.0.0, but I'm trying to compile and install DAR 2.2.2, and now I keep getting this error when I do make.. and help?
[08:04] <HappyFool> sorush20: wouldn't you need dar 3.0.0, not 2.2.2 ?
[08:04] <Brian_Boruma> ok i just installed wing commander privateer
[08:04] <znh> HappyFool: oh yes, init is the same
[08:04] <Brian_Boruma> it hink
[08:05] <HappyFool> sorush20: also, uninstall the ubuntu version first
[08:05] <PrimoTurbo> I got gstreamer0.8-plugins but it doesn't help
[08:05] <Brian_Boruma> where did it install to
[08:05] <Brian_Boruma> it was a .run file
[08:05] <PrimoTurbo> the cd player tells me which cd I have and the songs but it doesn't play them
[08:05] <Brian_Boruma> used the sh whatever.run
[08:05] <znh> sorush20: you can use the tab button instead of typing the whole name, it's really worth trying ;-)
[08:05] <djp> Belutz: complain to the administrator of the web site. isn't there a way with firefox to make it appear to be an ie browser when you visit a site?
[08:05] <znh> djp: you mean by changing the user agent?
[08:06] <nelsongs> help anyone?
[08:06] <djp> znh: yes. that's it.
[08:06] <sorush20> l;kjf
[08:06] <znh> djp: there's a cute extension for it, you might want to check that one
[08:06] <nelsongs> couldn't see anything when i installed ubuntu on my laptop
[08:06] <djp> Belutz: check out znh's comments
[08:06] <elph0> happy day to all sysadms here :) www.sysadminday.com
[08:06] <znh> nelsongs: define anything
[08:06] <djp> cheers znh
[08:07] <Belutz> djp: ok
[08:07] <znh> djp: no problem ;-)
[08:07] <DekaPink> How do I make VLC my default media player? xD
[08:07] <nelsongs> znh:  i have an hp dv4000 notebook
[08:07] <znh> DekaPink: default of what?
[08:07] <Belutz> hmmm another problem
[08:07] <sorush20> znh, what do you mean tab button... and happy fool.. when reading th einstructions on KDAR , it says that libdar 3.0.0 can be derived from the installation of Dar 2.2.2, which is what I'm trying to do and its going wrong...
[08:07] <nelsongs> znh:  intel 915GMhipset
[08:07] <Randall64> Belutz: What did you make your User Agent string?
[08:07] <DekaPink> znh: Uh... media files? :P
[08:07] <znh> nelsongs: hm.. when did you see nothing? after you installed ?
[08:07] <HappyFool> sorush20: ok
[08:07] <nelsongs> znh:  i can't see anything
[08:07] <Belutz> when i use terminal server client in fullscreen, how do i switch between the remote comp and local comp?
[08:07] <HappyFool> sorush20: have you uninstalled the ubuntu version of dar?
[08:07] <nelsongs> znh:  though i can hear the drums
[08:07] <znh> DekaPink: well in nautilus you can set a default player for e.g. mpg files
[08:08] <znh> nelsongs: could you see the installation process?
[08:08] <sorush20> happyfool, I'll do that now..
[08:08] <nelsongs> znh: yes.  and it went well
[08:08] <Belutz> Randall64: i just select the IE 6 in the option
[08:08] <znh> nelsongs: ok, then I fully understand, I think the default resolution is too high for your laptop screen
[08:08] <Belutz> Randall64: actually i could read the website, but can't click anything... because the script only supports IE?
[08:09] <znh> nelsongs: can you boot up your laptop, so we might be able to fix it?
[08:09] <nelsongs> yes
[08:09] <Randall64> Belutz: sounds likely
[08:09] <nelsongs> znh:  actually, i'm using the console
[08:09] <znh> nelsongs: ah you found the console, nice nice nice
[08:09] <nelsongs> znh:  well, not in this irc
[08:09] <Belutz> Randall64: ic...
[08:09] <nelsongs> znh:  but beside me.  heheh
[08:10] <znh> nelsongs: Ok, lets open the X.org configuration - it's located in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf - you can open it by typing nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf - If you didn't knew already
[08:10] <zerboxx> Some help please: I want to perminantly do "hdparm -d1 /dev/hda" how do I go about doing this?
[08:10] <Belutz> so? how do i switch between remote comp and local comp in terminal server client when using fulscreen option?
[08:10] <postmodern> so where can i download all the Ubuntu updates for Hoary?
[08:10] <nelsongs> znh:  okay, i opened it
[08:11] <HappyFool> zerboxx: you can edit /etc/hdparm.conf
[08:11] <znh> nelsongs: good, press ctrl+w
[08:11] <HappyFool> zerboxx: take a look at that file and see if you can figure it out
[08:11] <zerboxx> HappyFool: When I look in there, it's already set up, but everything has a # beside it, so should I remove it?
[08:11] <znh> nelsongs: typ: modes, and hit enter - repeat this twice
[08:11] <tucoz> Hi, I can't start my laptop in with acpi. It crashes on boot. The isssue started after a update with synaptic.
[08:11] <HappyFool> zerboxx: the '#' at the beginning means that the line is a comment, i.e., is ignored
[08:11] <kemik> postmodern:  add the hoary repoistories in your sources.list and do "apt-get update" "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:12] <zerboxx> HappyFool: So should I remove all the #'s around anything to do with /dev/hda?
[08:12] <nelsongs> znh: okay, what's next?
[08:12] <HappyFool> postmodern: the easiest way it to use the update tools provided with ubuntu (e.g., apt-get) -- this assumes the computer running hoary is connected to the net
[08:12] <tucoz> I thought that maybe a kernel upgrade could work. What do you think?
[08:12] <HappyFool> zerboxx: i'm not sure
[08:12] <zerboxx> HappyFool: :D
[08:12] <znh> nelsongs: have you got your cursor near Modes now?
[08:12] <HappyFool> zerboxx: stand by
[08:12] <jasoncohen> why does nmap show ports that are not being used (not being used and blocked by external router) as filtered? nmap localhost on the local machine doesn't show the ports at all. i only see it from outside
[08:12] <zerboxx> sure thing
[08:13] <nelsongs> znh:  yeah
[08:13] <nelsongs> znh: section screen, right?
[08:13] <znh> nelsongs: wee, alright do you know some laptop screen specifications of yours?
[08:13] <levander> Anybody has gotten any bugs fixed by posting to launchpad?
[08:13] <HappyFool> zerboxx: towards the ends is a line '/dev/hda {'
[08:13] <nelsongs> znh:  it's a widescreen 15.4"
[08:13] <HappyFool> zerboxx: then some mult_sect_io and write_cache stuff
[08:13] <zerboxx> HappyFool: *nodnod* should I remove the #s beside that and all the things under that?
[08:13] <postmodern> kemik, HappyFool I want to download them on my non-ubuntu system and burn them to a cdrom
[08:13] <HappyFool> zerboxx: and then 'dma = on'
[08:14] <znh> nelsongs: Ok, so the maximum resolution should be 1024x786 or 800x600 right?
[08:14] <cs378> how do i know which source to install? the 2.6.10 or 2.6.11?
[08:14] <HappyFool> zerboxx: more or less
[08:14] <cs378> linux source
[08:14] <nelsongs> znh:  hp brightview.  well, when windows was installed here, it was just a plug and play monitor
[08:14] <PrimoTurbo> well guess what
[08:14] <HappyFool> zerboxx: i'd leave the mult_sect_io and write_cache stuff commented out
[08:14] <PrimoTurbo> works perfect under gnome
[08:14] <PrimoTurbo> stupid kde
[08:14] <tucoz> cs378: uname -r
[08:14] <znh> nelsongs: same here, just a resolution ;)
[08:14] <postmodern> HappyFool, kemik how would i do this, do you have the url for the repository of Hoary
[08:14] <HappyFool> zerboxx: uncomment the '/dev/hda' '{', 'dma = on' and '}' lines
[08:14] <nelsongs> znh:  oh okay  :D
[08:14] <sorush20> Now I keep getting these errors..
[08:14] <tulio> somebody can helpme with a dual boot?
[08:14] <cs378> tucoz: so waever version i got,install that version?
[08:15] <HappyFool> postmodern: http://archive.ubuntu.com
[08:15] <znh> nelsongs: in that section screen, what is the default Dept?
[08:15] <tucoz> cs378: makes sence.
[08:15] <HappyFool> postmodern: however, it is not very easy to do what you want
[08:15] <nelsongs> znh:  24
[08:15] <HappyFool> postmodern: and if your machine isn't connected to the net, maybe security updates aren't all the important anyway
[08:15] <zerboxx> HappyFool: Ok, thanks for your help.  I'll test it out now
[08:15] <seterom> alguien habla espaol?
[08:15] <znh> nelsongs: change that to 16
[08:15] <cs378> tucoz: duh, then ill have to uninstall linux-source-2.6.11, thx
[08:15] <nelsongs> znh:  okay, next?
[08:15] <tucoz> hehe, np
[08:16] <DekaPink> VLC works... Guess I'll use it. :3
[08:16] <HappyFool> sorush20: would you mind pasting the errors to a pastebin (not #flood) ?
[08:16] <tulio> I donnt want to damage ubuntu partition, but I need to fix the mbr, because i have to boot windows....please some body helpme
[08:16] <znh> nelsongs: go down with your cursor to SubSection "Display", where Dept 16 is located
[08:16] <cs378> tucoz: or can i just leave linux-source-2.6.11 n install linux-source-2.6.10
[08:16] <HappyFool> sorush20: e.g.,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:16] <cs378> leave it there
[08:16] <nelsongs> znh:  okay
[08:17] <PrimoTurbo> How can I uninstall Kubuntu and all the files it installed?
[08:17] <znh> nelsongs: now, replace that Modes line with this mode line: Modes<tab>"640x480" "800x600"
[08:17] <tucoz> cs378, I think that it doesn't matter
[08:17] <sorush20> happyfool, I've put the new error into the pastebin... have a look please..
[08:18] <cs378> tucoz: oh ok, thx
[08:18] <Brian_Boruma> ok so where does this .run file install to
[08:18] <Randall64> Primo: Delete the partitions.
[08:18] <sorush20> happyfool its only part of the error..
[08:18] <Brian_Boruma> or how can i verify that it did install
[08:18] <nelsongs> znh:  just two modes?   so i have to delete the 1024x768 mode?
[08:19] <znh> nelsongs: just two modes, if there are more working we can always add more ;-)
[08:19] <nelsongs> znh: oh i see, so the highest resolution would be 800x600 if it works?
[08:19] <znh> nelsongs: yes indeed
[08:19] <nelsongs> znh:  okay, so what's next?
[08:19] <Brian_Boruma> i am installing privateer remake1.0
[08:20] <Brian_Boruma> it is running through an install phase
[08:20] <znh> nelsongs: exit the editor by pressing ctrl+x, don't forget to save it
[08:20] <Brian_Boruma> well it is uncompressing right now
[08:20] <Brian_Boruma> bunch of little dots in a window
[08:20] <nelsongs> znh:  okay, so, what's next?  reboot?
[08:20] <Brian_Boruma> it hink its just a progress indicator
[08:20] <znh> nelsongs: No!!
[08:20] <tucoz> hmm, how can I tell at what resolution I am running at? I just want to confirm the xorg-settings
[08:20] <znh> nelsongs: in linux you never would have to reboot  :D
[08:20] <bob2> xdpyinfo
[08:20] <bob2> xrandr
[08:21] <nelsongs> znh:  okay, hehe.  don't worry, i'm still waiting for you
[08:21] <nelsongs> eheh
[08:21] <bob2> X logs
[08:21] <bob2> xvidtune
[08:21] <znh> nelsongs: are you logged in as a normal user?
[08:21] <postmodern> HappyFool, so where in there is only the Hoary files
[08:21] <nelsongs> znh:  yeah, but used sudo to edit xorg.conf
[08:21] <HappyFool> sorush20: stand by
[08:21] <znh> nelsongs: okay, great - start the graphical X server we just edited with 'startx'
[08:21] <Randall64> no libc6 in the official backports :(
[08:22] <bob2> er
[08:22] <sorush20> Happyfool, thanks...
[08:22] <bob2> why on earth would you want a backported libc6?
[08:22] <Randall64> Has anyone ever been able to upgrade to breezy?
[08:22] <nelsongs> znh:  but it has been started.  i just used the ctrl-alt-f key to use the console
[08:22] <Randall64> bob2: amd64 bug is fixed in 2.3.50
[08:22] <Randall64> s/.$//
[08:22] <bob2> upgrading to breezy is fine, except X doesn't start
[08:22] <HappyFool> sorush20: that looks like a successful build to me
[08:23] <znh> nelsongs: so.. it already worked :-
[08:23] <Randall64> upgrading failed yesterday on (strangely enough) libc6.
[08:23] <tech> after i unstalled nvidia-glx ubuntu package, and installed the binary nvidia.com driver, xorg doesnt start.. i get skipping libfb.a:fbmmx.o no symbols found..
[08:23] <zerboxx> HappyFool: It worked perfectly, thanks again
[08:23] <HappyFool> zerboxx: no problem
[08:23] <bob2> tech: what was wrong with the ubuntu drivers?
[08:23] <nelsongs> znh:  forgot, how do i exit from this console?
[08:24] <znh> nelsongs: press the following buttons ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:24] <sorush20> Happyfool... really... so should I just make install... now
[08:24] <Brian_Boruma> it say error while loading shared object file no such file exists press return to close window
[08:24] <Brian_Boruma> anyone ever seen this?
[08:24] <HappyFool> postmodern: if you *really* want the package list, you can start here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2
[08:24] <HappyFool> postmodern: also 'restricted' where 'main' is there
[08:24] <HappyFool> postmodern: however, you'll need to be a moderate apt-guru to figure all that out
[08:25] <tech> bob2: it is an old version, in the newer ones nvidia has fixed many crappy bugs :) my problem is that my Xorg was locking up and taking 100% cpu.. tried to upgrade to the latest
[08:25] <HappyFool> sorush20: yeah, go for it
[08:25] <HappyFool> sorush20: there's something called 'checkinstall' you might find useful for this
[08:25] <nelsongs> znh:  startx error, couldn't start because there's one running already
[08:25] <HappyFool> sorush20: will let you uninstall relatively easily, i believe
[08:25] <thechitowncubss> My computer just completely locked up, no CTRL+ALT+BKSP or CTRL+F2, nothing worked, what do you guys do in those situations?
[08:25] <sorush20> okay.. thanks..
[08:25] <znh> nelsongs: shutdown the current one by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:25] <tech> thechitowncubss: you ssh to the machine and killall -9 Xorg, if you cant do taht you need to hard reboot
[08:26] <sorush20> Happyfool, are just practicing you skills... here..
[08:26] <HappyFool> thechitowncubss: sometimes one can ssh into the machine -- not sure if this applies in your case
[08:26] <Razor-X> HappyFool: you should really try zsh
[08:26] <wrath> hello
[08:26] <mrson> alguien q me ayude
[08:26] <Razor-X> mrson: #ubuntu-es
[08:26] <thechitowncubss> ya, usually i just restart it but everytime it happens it pisses me off and i just hit the restart button :)
[08:26] <McScruff> How Do you run .jar files
[08:26] <Randall64> java -jar foo.jar
[08:26] <Brian_Boruma> ok my turn
[08:26] <Razor-X> McScruff: with the program ``java''
[08:26] <Brian_Boruma> it say error while loading shared object file no such file exists press return to close window
[08:26] <Brian_Boruma> ok my turn
[08:27] <Brian_Boruma> anyone ever seen this?
[08:27] <Razor-X> ``my turn''?
[08:27] <Brian_Boruma> i get that during mid uncompression of .run file
[08:27] <Razor-X> Brian_Boruma: probably the object file it's looking for doesen't exist
[08:27] <nelsongs> znh:  didn't work
[08:27] <znh> nelsongs: what happend after you pressed the buttons?
[08:28] <tech> bob2: do you know why i get this no symbols error?
[08:28] <Brian_Boruma> well it went through its "verifying integrity" phase
[08:28] <Razor-X> Brian_Boruma: what is the script of?
[08:28] <Brian_Boruma> it completed, then during uncompression said that
[08:28] <Razor-X> hmmm, so far, I have 207,835 lines of logs of this channel
[08:28] <nelsongs> znh: nothing, displays the console for 1 sec, then no display
[08:28] <Brian_Boruma> its privateer wingcommader remake 1.0 :/
[08:28] <wrath> hi, i have a Dell dimension xps gen 3, and i'm trying to get the ubuntu live cd to load up at boot but it keeps hanging during the process. any clues as to what this may be??
[08:28] <Brian_Boruma> :)
[08:28] <nelsongs> znh:  same as before we started
[08:29] <Brian_Boruma> doesnt anyone play games here??!!!
[08:29] <Brian_Boruma> damn
[08:29] <dr_willis> wrath,  may want to try the 'noapci' and 'noapic' options
[08:29] <tulio> please, some body can tell me how can I install grub?
[08:29] <dr_willis> Brian_Boruma,  we are too busy helping people. :P
[08:30] <wrath> dr willis, i did
[08:30] <Razor-X> Brian_Boruma: not sure why, you can try filing a bug
[08:30] <nelsongs> znh:  still the same  :(
[08:30] <Randall64> bob2: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11730
[08:30] <Razor-X> I play games every so often, only when my mind numbs with helping/shell scripting/programming
[08:30] <Brian_Boruma> ok
[08:30] <wrath> except i typed it in after it was hung up
[08:30] <Razor-X> or, I want to play ToS, but taht's not a computer game ;)
[08:30] <Razor-X> s/taht/that/
[08:30] <Brian_Boruma> thank you
[08:31] <dr_willis> wrath,  give the kernel boot options 'noapci' and/or 'noapic' in the grub boot menus.
[08:31] <wrath> k, i'm very new, but i'll take a look
[08:31] <Razor-X> dr_willis: what are the differences between the two, by the way?
[08:31] <Razor-X> are apci and apic different protocls?
[08:31] <Razor-X> s/protocls/protocols/
[08:32] <dr_willis> wrath, boot up, hit "e" at the boot menu. add on the end 'noapci'
[08:32] <znh> nelsongs: what do you see then? you can see a terminal you just said :-/
[08:32] <dr_willis> of the 'kernel=line'
[08:32] <husher> so is anybody here running breezy yet?
[08:32] <jantan21> can u help me ?
[08:32] <wrath> ok
[08:32] <wrath> ty
[08:32] <Razor-X> husher: breezy help doesen't belong on this channel
[08:32] <dr_willis> i have to do this on my new laptop
[08:32] <nelsongs> znh:  yup  just the terminal for about a sec, then blank
[08:32] <nelsongs> znh:  then heard the drums again
[08:32] <DekaPink> <3 Ubuntu... Woot.
[08:32] <thechitowncubss> yipee
[08:32] <thechitowncubss> I just tried Windows VIsta Beta 1 and it sucked
[08:33] <husher> Razor-X: i'm just curious how stable it is yet, i'm not running it
[08:33] <wrath> trying that, brb
[08:33] <Razor-X> thechitowncubss: well, Longtime's always sucked, you think Vista will chane anything?
[08:33] <Razor-X> husher: very unstable
[08:33] <znh> nelsongs: oh.. I wish I could help you further, but I have to go now :-( - Hope someone else can help you further
[08:33] <Razor-X> every so often, something breaks
[08:33] <znh> g2g channel
[08:33] <Razor-X> so if you're lucky enough to enter in a lull when everything's fine
[08:33] <thechitowncubss> I just realized officialy that i will probably be staying with ubuntu for the long haul.
[08:33] <DekaPink> I don't know if I'll ever use Vista.
[08:33] <Razor-X> then, don't update for a while
[08:33] <Randall64> XP x64 is pretty crappy too
[08:34] <nelsongs> help anyone?
[08:34] <Razor-X> I agree with Leo Laporte, I think the time has come for M$ to redesign their OS from the ground up
[08:34] <nelsongs> Randall64:  what should i do?
[08:34] <Razor-X> just like Mac did before OS X
[08:34] <nelsongs> Randall64:  can you help me?
[08:34] <Randall64> It's time for M$ to adopt linux and port their crappy applications.
[08:34] <nelsongs> Randall64:  please?
[08:35] <Randall64> nelsongs: pray
[08:35] <dr_willis> MS could just buy the BeOS :P
[08:35] <Razor-X> Randall64: that'll never happen
[08:35] <Razor-X> dr_willis: haha!
[08:35] <Razor-X> that would be a good mixture, though
[08:35] <Razor-X> building Windows on top of the BeOS framework
[08:35] <nelsongs> Randall64:  no, seriously?  is intel 915gm still not supported by ubuntu?
[08:35] <Rockett17> yeah beos is a good os.. just dead and lacking in hardware/application support
[08:35] <Razor-X> mmmm, the FMA Greatest Hits CD is the best ;)
[08:35] <Randall64> nelsongs: no idea
[08:36] <dr_willis> Theres the ZETA variation of BeOS thats out now I hear.
[08:36] <Razor-X> Rockett17: it's not dead, actually
[08:36] <nelsongs> Randall64:  thanks anyway
[08:36] <Razor-X> but, hardware support kicks ass on old hardware
[08:36] <nelsongs> anyone, help me please?
[08:36] <Razor-X> compared to more recent incantations of Linux and Windows
[08:36] <Razor-X> nelsongs: what's the problem?
[08:36] <Brian_Boruma> im getting all updates through sudo commands
[08:36] <nelsongs> i have an hp laptop, dv4000, intel 915gm chipset
[08:36] <Brian_Boruma> hopefully that helps
[08:36] <Razor-X> Brian_Boruma: doubt it, but you can try
[08:36] <Rockett17> yeah I know there is Zeta... but for new hardware it's pretty much useless
[08:36] <nelsongs> when i finished installing everything, there was no display
[08:36] <nelsongs> though i can hear the drums
[08:37] <Randall64> I'll settle for M$ getting out of operating systems when cheap Intel macs become available.
[08:37] <Razor-X> nelsongs: does i go into a Terminal Window?
[08:37] <Razor-X> Randall64: that'll never happen either
[08:37] <Razor-X> they're money leeches
[08:37] <nelsongs> Razor-X  yes
[08:37] <Randall64> Razor-X: They might not have any choice ;)
[08:37] <Razor-X> they'll stick as close to their money as they can
[08:37] <nelsongs> Razor-X:  i can go to the terminal window
[08:37] <Razor-X> Randall64: they'll finally redesign their OS
[08:37] <dr_willis> "Cheap" intel Macs - HA! ha! ha!
[08:37] <dr_willis> :P
[08:37] <holycow> well they have a good thing going, a tax on almost every system sold is a good place to be
[08:37] <Razor-X> nelsongs: that's a problem? ;)
[08:37] <Razor-X> just kidding, I know how most can't survive there, meh
[08:38] <Razor-X> what's the graphics card?
[08:38] <nelsongs> Razor-X:  graphics card is intel 915GM
[08:38] <Razor-X> most people here don't reccomend it, but if X.Org refuses to work because of drivers, you can always try XVesa or Xframebuffer ;)
[08:38] <Razor-X> nelsongs: hmmm ok
[08:38] <black13> Razor-X would you know what the xorg error (EE) Failed to load module "bitmap" (module does not exist, 0) would mean ?
[08:39] <faen> Hmm anyone have any ideas why I can not hear sound in java applets using the latest firefox/java/fresh install?
[08:39] <dr_willis> nelsongs,  this a laptop?
[08:39] <nelsongs> Razor-X:  any ideas?  yup, an hp dv4000 laptop
[08:39] <Razor-X> black13: I can only gather from that the bitmap moule is missing, or such
[08:39] <Razor-X> nelsongs: i'm googling now
[08:39] <thechitowncubss> faen: try killing esd before starting them
[08:39] <Razor-X> black13: try a google search
[08:39] <dr_willis> nelsongs,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingUbuntuOnADellLatitudeX1?highlight=%28intel%29%7C%28915GM%29
[08:39] <faen> ok thechitowncubss
[08:39] <dr_willis> mentions an almost identical error.
[08:40] <wrath> i hit "e" at the boot menu but never saw anything like kernal=line
[08:40] <wrath> wasn't sure where to enter that noapci thing
[08:40] <black13> Razor-X sorry i hit the wrong back key ... no fixed that issue it was an xorg.conf problem
[08:40] <dr_willis> wrath,  this is a live cd you are booting?
[08:40] <faen> that worked
[08:40] <wrath> yes
[08:42] <wrath> i've never tried linux so i wanted to just see what it was on the live cd before installing on a new partition
[08:42] <dr_willis> Hmm..  Not sure how the cd's work differently. I  had to mess with the noapic and noapci after i installed.
[08:43] <windex> dr_willis: laptop?
[08:43] <dr_willis> wrath,  may want to go get the latest Knoppix Live cd' it may have better support for ya.
[08:43] <dr_willis> windex,  yea a compaq 3211us
[08:43] <wrath> it hangs after it loads some usb drive
[08:43] <dr_willis> wrath,  or its hanging right AFTER that :P and not printing an error.
[08:43] <Brian_Boruma> sudo apt-get install libopenal-dev
[08:43] <wrath> yeah, i just thought ubuntu sounded cool
[08:43] <Brian_Boruma> oops
[08:43] <Brian_Boruma> wrong window
[08:43] <windex> dr_willis: :) i dont know why, but laptop makers always seem to have one hell of a time supporting power management, which is funny, since they need it most.
[08:44] <dr_willis> the ubuntu live cd may be a little out of date
[08:44] <dr_willis> windex,  yep.
[08:44] <wrath> yeah, i just dl it
[08:44] <dr_willis> the Ubuntu installer cd may work for ya.
[08:44] <wrath> will it repartition for me or no
[08:44] <dr_willis> but really for getting your feet wet in linux - Knoppix is dang handy
[08:44] <dr_willis> I use that SystemREscueCd (linux live cd) to do my reparittiong needs. :P
[08:44] <wrath> is knoppix easier than ubnuntu
[08:45] <dr_willis> wrath,  its all easy.
[08:45] <dr_willis> once ya learn the fundamentls its all the same.
[08:45] <wrath> hehe, i coming from XP
[08:45] <wrath> ok
[08:45] <windex> wrath: ubuntu will create partitions, but not resize your existing partitions. if you need to resize your windows partitions, you can use partition magic among other things.
[08:45] <Krueger> I have installed gstreamer0.8-plugins. But still I can't play my WMA and MP3 files in totem and other gstreamer based programs ?
[08:45] <wrath> yeah, i'll just use partition maging then
[08:45] <wrath> magic
[08:45] <Randall64> like noppix and qtparted
[08:46] <Krueger> sorry my english ...
[08:46] <Krueger> :)
[08:46] <tucoz> I can't figure out what to look for in the x log file, to see at what resolution I am running at.
[08:46] <tucoz> xvidtune didn't work for me.
[08:47] <wrath> ok gonna go check out Knoppix
[08:47] <wrath> peace out...
[08:47] <wrath> ty for advice
[08:47] <windex> Krueger: your english is better than my danish. :)
[08:48] <dr_willis> I like the Danish's with the walnuts.
[08:48] <dr_willis> :P
[08:48] <dr_willis> and coffee
[08:48] <windex> dr_willis: if you're going to associate denmark with a tasty pastry, does everyone else get to associate america with a big mac?
[08:49] <Krueger> windex: Hehe... hej ;)
[08:49] <mcquillg> I have a small ssh-agent question. Is there a way to leave the ssh-agent in daemon mode even after a user session has closed?
[08:49] <mcquillg> In this case, I'm running a cronjob that should continue even after I've logged o ut.
[08:49] <azik> windex: america not, but US yes :)
[08:50] <windex> azik: personally, i blame canada and mexico equally for the popularity of mcdonalds.
[08:51] <Razor-X> back
[08:51] <holycow> windex, america is completely associated with a big mac
[08:51] <Razor-X> screen went whacky on me, and I was configuring my zsh a bit
[08:51] <holycow> big, bloated, fatty with no substance
[08:51] <holycow> its perfect
[08:51] <windex> +1 holycow.
[08:51] <Razor-X> holycow: ;)
[08:52] <holycow> *bows*
[08:52] <holycow> >_>
[08:52] <azik> i don't know about it, but it's usually think in US when you go to a mcdonalds and not Canada or Mexico...
[08:53] <holycow> alas, mcd's and stafucks are just as popular here
[08:53] <holycow> in vancouver we even have starbucks kitty corner from each other
[08:53] <holycow> its sad
[08:53] <windex> holycow: i used to live in seattle. i will let that statement speak for itself.
[08:54] <holycow> windex, ehe :)
[08:55] <windex> anyone need help with something linux orientated but not ubuntu specific since i still haven't absorbed enough knowledge to solve the ubuntu specific things? :)
[08:55] <bootsman> i might
[08:55] <Brian_Boruma> Do you want to run "privateer1.0.bz2.run", or display its contents?
[08:56] <windex> Brian_Boruma: i'd assume you'd want to save it to disk and then execute it?
[08:56] <Brian_Boruma> is that what i want to do
[08:56] <Brian_Boruma> well it is currently on my desktop
[08:56] <bootsman> do you know a good editor that resembles ultraedit?
[08:56] <Razor-X> bootsman: never used ultraedit
[08:57] <Razor-X> I used to use SciTE on Windows
[08:57] <Razor-X> mmmm, that's probably the best GUI editor ever
[08:57] <windex> Brian_Boruma: if its downloaded already, open a terminal window, cd to ~/Desktop, chmod +x ./privateer1.0.bz2.run, and run ./privateer1.0.bz2.run ?
[08:57] <dr_willis> try 'file whatever.run' and see what kind of file it is.
[08:57] <dr_willis> that filename seems WEIRD..
[08:57] <Razor-X> still, GUI spoils my teeth ;)
[08:57] <Brian_Boruma> i already changed permissions to 744
[08:57] <dr_willis> it may need to be uncompressed befor ya can run it
[08:57] <bootsman> uhm... maybe an editor that has these 2 features: syntax highlighting and folding?
[08:57] <dr_willis> bootsman,  'fte' :P
[08:57] <windex> Brian_Boruma: ok, then open a terminal, cd to ~/Desktop, and run ./privateer1.0.bz2.run
[08:57] <Razor-X> bootsman: folding is a GUI action ;)
[08:58] <Razor-X> SciTE is for Linux I believe
[08:58] <bootsman> i want a gui =)
[08:58] <Razor-X> and it has folding
[08:58] <Razor-X> bootsman: ewww, editing in GUI, that's nasty
[08:58] <dr_willis> fte has a gui. :P its just text based
[08:58] <thechitowncubss> Linux needs a way for grandma to install software.
[08:58] <Razor-X> that's like spraying salt with sugar
[08:58] <bootsman> i make less mistakes if i have some nice colors ;)
[08:58] <dr_willis> thechitowncubss,  check out the 'autopackage' system then.
[08:58] <three> hi
[08:58] <thechitowncubss> dr_willis: i'm familiar
[08:58] <Razor-X> bootsman: well, Terminals have nice colors too
[08:58] <bootsman> and fte comes with ubuntu?
[08:58] <windex> Razor-X: i use nano. :( i get endless crap from vi people, yet when i want to do something it just works and they are reading their cheat sheet coffee mug. it's like they enjoy pain.
[08:58] <Razor-X> just your mouse is pretty much useless
[08:59] <bootsman> i can live with that
[08:59] <dr_willis> Cheet Sheet Coffe Mug. :P lol
[08:59] <Razor-X> windex: i'm an emacs user
[08:59] <dr_willis> i want one!
[08:59] <Razor-X> windex: you obviously have a short memory span ;)
[08:59] <myang> Can anybody tell me, do I need to turn on certain ports to enable bittorrent downloading?
[08:59] <Razor-X> in nano, how would you go about renaming every instance of ``log'' to ``\log'' ?
[08:59] <windex> Razor-X: i don't know anyone personally who uses emacs. :)
[09:00] <bootsman> i was a little bit scared by emacs when running it for the first time
[09:00] <highvoltage> windex: i know some 10 year olds who love emacs
[09:00] <myang> My gnome bittorrent can't connect to download ubuntu
[09:00] <phixion> why not use gedit?
[09:00] <windex> highvoltage: im just happy they're using 'nix.
[09:00] <three> do eany of you ppl know where i can get a wireless adapter the will work with ubuntu pls
[09:00] <Brian_Boruma> its verifying archive integrity
[09:00] <dr_willis> Vi referance Mug --> http://www.cafepress.com/geekcheat.11507711?r=froogle
[09:00] <Brian_Boruma> windex
[09:00] <windex> three: let me plug in my linksys wusb11 and see if it works.
[09:00] <Razor-X> windex: can you find out how to do that with nano? ;)
[09:00] <three> kk, thanx
[09:01] <Razor-X> highvoltage: are you using age as some sort of deterrent?
[09:01] <Razor-X> because i'm 15 mmmkay ;)
[09:01] <windex> Brian_Boruma: yep?
[09:01] <Brian_Boruma> windex says archive integrity all good
[09:01] <windex> Brian_Boruma: i assume its ok then. i don't know what your doing, i just know it's a self extracting bz2.
[09:02] <Razor-X> anyways, try out SciTE, a really nice GUI editor
[09:02] <three> windex: so ur linksys wireless adapter work then????
[09:02] <Razor-X> three: maybe!!!!!!!
[09:02] <Brian_Boruma> windex trying to install wing commander privateer game
[09:02] <Razor-X> three: is there a reason people use more than one punctuation?
[09:02] <three> oh, kk
[09:02] <phixion> what program can i use to replace dc++?
[09:02] <r2d4> Can anyone please recommend me a good tutorial on setting up imap and pop on my Ubuntu box?
[09:03] <sorush20> guys... I can't find my menu bar on kde.. can anyone help... how can I restart it
[09:03] <dr_willis> Razor-X, ?!?
[09:03] <r2d4> servers that is.
[09:03] <Razor-X> dr_willis: more than one of one instance of punctuation in a series
[09:03] <Razor-X> ;)
[09:03] <Razor-X> r2d4: there are a few out there, I use one, don't remember offhand
[09:03] <Razor-X> I use dcgui
[09:03] <Razor-X> ;)
[09:04] <windex> three: you will be delighted(?) to know that the linksys wusb11 does not appear to work out of the box. however, if you have a development installation (gcc, etc) the drivers for it can be found at http://at76c503a.berlios.de/
[09:04] <windex> oh. he left.
[09:04] <r2d4> Razor-X: I will try that.
[09:04] <Brian_Boruma> windex sorry but /.setup4902: error while loading shared libraries: libgdk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:05] <windex> Brian_Boruma: ah ha. looks like the game needs older libraries. let me see if they're in ubuntu via software installation.
[09:05] <phixion> I'm trying to follow the DC++ tutorial here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28378&highlight=dc but the cvs commands arent working, how can i fix it?
[09:06] <Brian_Boruma> windex thanks , thats really cool of you
[09:06] <renbolicious```> Anyone knows why there is no root after install?
[09:06] <windex> Brian_Boruma: as root (via su) or with sudo, run: aptitude install libgtk1.2
[09:07] <phixion> renbolicious```, you use 'sudo'
[09:07] <other|study> renbolicious```: did you ever read anything about this distro before you installed it?
[09:07] <phixion> how can i get cvs working? ;/
[09:07] <renbolicious```> i didnet
[09:07] <renbolicious```> I just got the tip that it is very comfortable for users
[09:07] <Brian_Boruma> windex done
[09:07] <windex> other|study: i didn't, and it took me a minute until i ran a config utility and noticed it was like OS X to figure it out. many, many people are used to the same-old same-old.
[09:07] <jab9417> can anyone give me an idea why I wouldnt be getting audio from flash in Mozilla or firefox? I've re-installed the flash plugin and gstreamer.. is there something else I'm missing?
[09:07] <Brian_Boruma> should i try running it again now
[09:08] <windex> Brian_Boruma: try running the program again, if it fails again, let me know on which library and i'll try again to find it. it's gunna be a cat and mouse game.
[09:08] <renbolicious```> ok, where is the FM i gotta read ;>?
[09:09] <jab9417> Ubuntu Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//
[09:10] <highvoltage> Razor-X: no
[09:10] <Razor-X> highvoltage: eh?
[09:10] <Razor-X> I just came back...
[09:10] <highvoltage> you asked me if i'm using age as a deterent. the answer is no.
[09:10] <Razor-X> uggghh, relearning screen is a pain ;)
[09:10] <Razor-X> highvoltage: cool
[09:11] <highvoltage> screen is eary!
[09:11] <highvoltage> i mean easy :)
[09:11] <|satan|> when i put in the cd unbuntu it shuts down my computer
[09:11] <Razor-X> highvoltage: not when you got emacs binds emblazoned in your flesh ;)
[09:11] <phixion> anyone able to help me? why can i not use the "cvs" commands?
[09:12] <tritium> phixion, have you installed it?
[09:12] <phixion> no :o where can i get it?
[09:12] <windex> aptitude install cvs ? :)
[09:12] <Brian_Boruma> windex im trying sudo apt - get aptitude install libgtk1.2
[09:12] <Brian_Boruma> i keep getting errors
[09:12] <phixion> cant find cvs... :/
[09:12] <windex> ohh.
[09:12] <tritium> Brian_Boruma, use either apt-get or aptitude, but not both
[09:13] <jab9417> Sorry to be a pest, but can anyone give me an idea why I wouldnt be getting audio from flash in Mozilla or firefox? I've re-installed the flash plugin and gstreamer.. is there something else I'm missing?
[09:13] <Razor-X> cvs is a package here :(
[09:13] <windex> Brian_Boruma: you don't need the apt - get. all you should need to type is sudo aptitude install libgtk1.2 .. i just used aptitude because it has fewer issues for me on debian.
[09:13] <phixion> No candidate version found for cvs, No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[09:13] <Razor-X> jab9417: is something else using audo right now?
[09:13] <jab9417> no.. nothing.
[09:13] <Razor-X> I like aptitude ;)
[09:13] <Brian_Boruma> windex your a genious
[09:13] <windex> jab9417: flash player only supports writing directly to DSP, if your sound card can not handle simultanious DSP writes and/or you are running another sound daemon, that's why.
[09:14] <Razor-X> Brian_Boruma: that's common sense ;) and you mispelled genius ;)
[09:14] <Brian_Boruma> windex lmao
[09:14] <tritium> phixion, it's in main.  You have to be able to get it, unless you haven't updated your package list ever
[09:14] <jab9417> hmm.. okay. I'll take a look into that..
[09:14] <Razor-X> anyone willing to chink up a more scientific approach at netspeak, join me in offtopic
[09:14] <phixion> tritium, I have... I have default repositories, with universe enabled
[09:14] <Razor-X> s/chink/think/
[09:15] <tritium> !info cvs
[09:15] <ubotu> cvs: (Concurrent Versions System), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:1.12.9-9 (hoary), Packaged size: 1400 kB, Installed size: 3024 kB
[09:15] <tritium> it's there, phixion
[09:15] <phixion> tritium, nm lol, all my repositories were "##" commented
[09:15] <Brian_Boruma> did you all know you could take a .run file and drag it to terminal window and it operate the same as using command line
[09:15] <phixion> from when i edited them
[09:15] <phixion> bah :)
[09:15] <tritium> :)
[09:16] <occy> Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900   <-- my laptop has that video chipset...
[09:16] <tritium> phixion, glad you figured that out.
[09:16] <phixion> ta mate :)
[09:16] <r2d4> Razor-X: you said dcgui. did you misspell it? I am getting a P2P client on that.
[09:16] <occy> just installed Ubuntu on it.
[09:16] <occy> and get a big white screen.
[09:16] <windex> Brian_Boruma: nope. but that's because i barely depend on a gui as anything but window management. :)
[09:16] <Brian_Boruma> oh
[09:16] <Brian_Boruma> well i was hoping i could help
[09:16] <Razor-X> r2d4: that's what DC++ is
[09:16] <Razor-X> it's a P2P client
[09:16] <occy> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Media_Accelerator_900
[09:16] <occy> hmm
[09:17] <levander> Nobody in here has gotten udftools to work?
[09:17] <Brian_Boruma> windex
[09:17] <r2d4> Razor-X: OK! I was asking for IMAP, a mail server :-)
[09:17] <levander> There is an alternative to RW access to DVD-RW and CD-RW discs?
[09:17] <renbolicious```> omg
[09:17] <Brian_Boruma> windex where will this install to?
[09:17] <levander> alternative to udf?
[09:17] <renbolicious```> friends just gave me the hint
[09:17] <renbolicious```> sudo passwd
[09:17] <renbolicious```> and now
[09:17] <renbolicious```> I am root .x
[09:18] <IceDC571> how do i find out what all my hardware is in linux?
[09:18] <Brian_Boruma> windex what binary path do i want to install this to?
[09:18] <tritium> renbolicious```, and?
[09:18] <windex> Brian_Boruma: what's the default?
[09:18] <renbolicious```> that is just amazing
[09:18] <tritium> renbolicious```, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:18] <tommi^> Is it just me or doesn't Evolution work properly with maildir?
[09:18] <renbolicious```> i got to register first
[09:18] <Brian_Boruma> /home/name
[09:18] <windex> Brian_Boruma: i dont know anything about the game. i'm going to assume it has sane defaults, since i have nothing else to work from?
[09:18] <Brian_Boruma> ok
[09:18] <tritium> renbolicious```, to read the wiki page?  No, you don't...
[09:18] <Brian_Boruma> windex thanks
[09:19] <Brian_Boruma> can i have it install to my desktop?
[09:19] <windex> Brian_Boruma: i don't see why not.
[09:19] <windex> wouldn't be my first choice. :)
[09:20] <Brian_Boruma> ok i just left the defaults as you said windex
[09:20] <Sponge_> How do I install a palm m130 on ubuntu?
[09:20] <windex> Brian_Boruma: just remember where that was, then create a launcher on your desktop for the path to the game.
[09:20] <levander> If a CDRW has an iso fs on it, can I blank the disc, and create a new iso fs on it?
[09:21] <windex> levander: yes, but i dont remember which utilities are on ubuntu. cdrecord?
[09:21] <Razor-X> levander: mkisofs I believe
[09:21] <tritium> levander, even nautilus can do tha
[09:21] <tritium> tha
[09:21] <Razor-X> dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/path/to/device
[09:21] <tritium> arg..that
[09:21] <Razor-X> and then mkisofs
[09:21] <r2d4> Razor-X: oops! Never mind. You were answering someone else.
[09:21] <Razor-X> the first command nulls the cd, the second makes the iso fs
[09:21] <Razor-X> r2d4: hehehe ;)
[09:21] <levander> yeah, mkiosfs makes the iso fs, and cdrecord burns the disc, anybody know the command line utility to blank the disc?
[09:21] <windex> levander: cdrecord has a 'blank=all' command? :)
[09:22] <Sponge_> I can't find the ttyUSB* on ubuntu. With all this stuff of udev. What can I do?
[09:22] <Razor-X> windex: that works too, I guess? ;)
[09:22] <levander> tritium: it's gotta be a command line util, script is going to run from cron to backup my system
[09:22] <occy> the new ipw2200 drivers,
[09:22] <occy> hmm
[09:22] <tritium> levander, ah, okay
[09:22] <levander> windex: thanks, i'll check it out
[09:22] <Razor-X> I just love dd so much, it's crazy ;)
[09:22] <Brian_Boruma> windex what would the run file be
[09:22] <occy> anyone know how I can get that?
[09:22] <Brian_Boruma> windex the extension i mean
[09:22] <windex> Brian_Boruma: there might not be an extension, what binary directory did you install to?
[09:23] <levander> Anybody remember the emacs command to switch two buffers?  So that the buffer on the bottom is now on the top, and the buffer that was on the top is now on the bottom?
[09:23] <Brian_Boruma> /home/XX
[09:23] <Brian_Boruma> i am browsing through the folder
[09:23] <Brian_Boruma> in home
[09:23] <Brian_Boruma> and i see it
[09:23] <Razor-X> levander: hmmm, no, actually ;)
[09:23] <windex> okay. :)
[09:23] <Brian_Boruma> dont know what file would start it
[09:23] <Razor-X> you can always write your own macro for reference
[09:23] <Brian_Boruma> and dont want to go clicking on everything i see
[09:23] <phixion> if something tells me to "Also apt-get install your kernel headers." what does it mean?
[09:24] <Razor-X> I generally use C-x o C-x b RET C-x o C-x b RET, but that may have different effects depending on your last buffers and stuff
[09:24] <phixion> apt-get install what? :)
[09:24] <renbolicious```> so, what is the command to setup my soundcard? alsaconf is not known.
[09:24] <windex> Brian_Boruma: okay, go into the directory, do a: ls -l|grep rwx .. what binaries are there?
[09:25] <Mobus> ...
[09:25] <punkass> hi, a buddy of mine just rebooted his hoary install and now none of his networking is working
[09:25] <punkass> wireless or ethernet
[09:25] <Razor-X> punkass: did he update any modules?
[09:25] <punkass> ifup just gives "eth0: no ipv6 routers present"
[09:25] <punkass> no
[09:25] <punkass> and then DCHP just goes to sleep
[09:26] <punkass> it does this whole thing to of course: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5
[09:26] <punkass> dmesg shows that it can see that eth0 link is plugged in
[09:26] <Razor-X> punkass: is the DHCP server working?
[09:27] <Razor-X> (I mean, by using another machine or such)
[09:27] <punkass> we he tried sudo dhclient eth0 but it failed too
[09:27] <punkass> oh yeah
[09:27] <punkass> he as a windows box and a knoppix laptop using the same router
[09:27] <punkass> and they are fine
[09:27] <Razor-X> hmmm....
[09:27] <punkass> yeah thats what i thought too ;)
[09:27] <Krueger> I have installed the gstreamer0.8-plugins package from synaptic. but it dosen't work, I can't play my mp3 and other files in totem and other gstreamer based programs ?
[09:28] <Razor-X> punkass: if you had another Ubuntu box, you could download the dhcp package but... ah :\
[09:28] <punkass> Krueger: run gst-register ....doh cant remeber the whole command name
[09:28] <Mobus> ok this is weird
[09:28] <Mobus> I'm talking to you guys
[09:28] <Mobus> but no other internet app is working right now...
[09:28] <levander> What's this 8.3 filename limit for iso that I'm reading about in the mkisofs man page? I've never had to limit filenames to that in the past.
[09:28] <punkass> yeah I was going to get him to do a an install of dhcpcd but of course no network
[09:29] <tech> how do i configure ubuntu to use some other windowmanager+
[09:29] <Krueger> punkass: could it be gst-register-0.8 ?
[09:29] <punkass> yes thats the one
[09:29] <Krueger> thank you punkass :D
[09:29] <occy> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51187&highlight=dv4000
[09:29] <occy> hmm
[09:29] <punkass> no prob
[09:29] <dan_> Hi there!
[09:29] <occy> this seems to address my problem... but.
[09:29] <occy> it's for the live cd.
[09:30] <occy> I've already installed Ubuntu on this dv4000 laptop.
[09:30] <punkass> any other thoughts Razor-X?
[09:30] <windex> levander: the -J flag enables joilet directory records, which allow up to 64 characters
[09:30] <Razor-X> punkass: i'm thinking :(
[09:30] <punkass> hehe
[09:30] <Razor-X> well
[09:30] <Razor-X> instead of using DHCP
[09:30] <Razor-X> have you tried configging it manually?
[09:30] <punkass> no havent tried that yet
[09:31] <Razor-X> since you have the information the DHCP server provides for you using other boxes
[09:31] <Razor-X> try that, that'll be an interim solution
[09:31] <Razor-X> then you can reinstall your DHCP package
[09:31] <dan_> How can I make Ubuntu to "see" (use) my NTFS partitions?
[09:31] <punkass> if it works that would be great
[09:31] <occy> how do I get to the "Configure X-server.org" screen?
[09:31] <windex> dan_: NTFS is read-only, there is write support, but you can't add or grow files.
[09:31] <Mobus> dan_: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[09:32] <tritium> occy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:32] <|satan|> i pute in the unbuntu cd and i hit enter then it goes throw the process then shuts down my computer
[09:32] <occy> tritium, thank you sir.
[09:32] <|satan|> what is happening
[09:33] <benplaut> |satan| live or install CD?
[09:33] <|satan|> install cd
[09:34] <windex> |satan|: do you remove the ubuntu install cd when the installation prompts you to?
[09:34] <turtle_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35068
[09:34] <|satan|> nah i pop it in then it says hit enter to install
[09:34] <|satan|> then it goes throw some code
[09:34] <|satan|> then shuts down
[09:34] <Razor-X> |satan|: maybe it says that for a reason? ;)
[09:34] <windex> |satan|: does it give any reasons?
[09:35] <turtle_> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[09:35] <windex> i'm going to assume it does this to prevent some horrible thing from occuring, or because your download was incomplete. but i don't know.
[09:35] <|satan|> should i pop it in again
[09:35] <|satan|> and see what it says
[09:35] <windex> might help if you knew the error from immediatley before reboot, yes.
[09:35] <occy> w00p
[09:36] <occy> tritium, thanks bud
[09:36] <Razor-X> wish I could use a regexp for that XD
[09:36] <tritium> occy, any time :)
[09:37] <levander> okay, great, when i run 'cdrecord -scanbus' i get warned about running it on a kernel 2.5 or newer
[09:37] <levander> Is okay to use cdrecord anyway?
[09:37] <Ratmann> Hello all
[09:37] <bh> hi ratmann!
[09:38] <Ratmann> Quick little question
[09:38] <|satan|> it says sucessfull then my screen goes blank
[09:38] <Ratmann> I'm on Window XP, got Ubuntu on a small HD
[09:38] <benplaut> jito: Thinkpad... and best for everything else, too :)
[09:38] <windex> |satan|: does it reboot? or just stop?
[09:38] <Ratmann> I'm gonna go over to the Ubuntu HD, but i wanna be able to access some of the files in my Windows HD
[09:39] <jito> thanks benplaut. Does ubuntu install well on just about any thinkpad? How about Dell?
[09:39] <|satan|> just stop
[09:39] <windex> |satan|: no hard disk activity, or anything?
[09:39] <|satan|> i thimy computer on just a blank screen
[09:39] <benplaut> jito: the physical quality of dell is horendus... yup, it works on pretty much any recent thinkpad
[09:39] <jito> excellent
[09:39] <benplaut> i'm a bit biased, but.. :)
[09:40] <nariman> HELP!!!!!!
[09:40] <Ratmann> Anyone know?
[09:40] <windex> benplaut: the business dell boxes are about the same as using equivilently priced self-built stuff. dimensions and low end notebooks, though, oi.
[09:40] <Randall64> What's a .udeb?
[09:40] <benplaut> T series is the mosd expensive
[09:40] <|satan|> nothing is happening
[09:40] <Ratmann> Anyone know how i can access the files?
[09:40] <benplaut> but best quality
[09:40] <nariman> can someone help me install WINE
[09:41] <benplaut> R series is a nice comprimise
[09:41] <windex> |satan|: im not sure what's going on, then. the installer may have a problem using your hardware?
[09:41] <benplaut> nariman: yup
[09:41] <bh> there is special support for hp notebooks: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/custom/hplaptops. Anyone tried that?
[09:41] <nariman> ok, help me :(
[09:41] <nariman> :)
[09:41] <benplaut> just a sec, i'll find the better tutorial
[09:41] <|satan|> so what shall i do
[09:41] <|satan|> install another linus
[09:41] <|satan|> linux
[09:42] <windex> |satan|: does the livecd work?
[09:42] <crimsun> jito: the T4xs are well supported
[09:42] <|satan|> didnt try it
[09:42] <mauripc> hi
[09:42] <crimsun> jito: currently using a T41 and T42 fully supported by Hoary
[09:43] <nevin> narimanL you can just run "sudo apt-get install wine"
[09:43] <windex> |satan|: well, i'm not versed at all with how the installer works. you can try another distribution, or wait for someone else to help out.
[09:43] <JoiIto> crimsun, thanks
[09:45] <|satan|> maybe i will try the live dvd
[09:45] <punkass> well Razor-X still no luck with a static ip
[09:45] <punkass> this is so wierd
[09:46] <punkass> weird also
[09:46] <Razor-X> punkass: hmmmmm....
[09:46] <tommi^> How to convert maildir to mbox?
[09:46] <Razor-X> tommi^: mbox?
[09:46] <Razor-X> that's a type of box in LaTeX ;)
[09:46] <punkass> crimsun: any idea why networking would just stop working....router is fine as knoppix and XP are using it fine
[09:47] <punkass> no updates have been done
[09:47] <Razor-X> punkass: I'm guessing networking itself broke.... :(
[09:47] <punkass> just a reboot then no network
[09:47] <Razor-X> although why... i'm not so sure
[09:47] <tucoz> Are there any serious issues with breeze, or is it ok to install?
[09:47] <windex> punkass: give 'ifup eth0' a try?
[09:47] <Razor-X> did you try disconnecting it, then reconnecting it?
[09:47] <windex> :)
[09:47] <punkass> yeah i did
[09:47] <Razor-X> tucoz: many many serious issues
[09:47] <renbolicious```> what tool do i use instead of alsaconf?
[09:47] <tommi^> Razor-X, yeah, that's exactly what I'm trying to do.
[09:47] <nevin> renbolicious```: why aren't you using esd?
[09:47] <tommi^> qmail has a maildir2mbox utility but qmail isn't packaged to ubuntu.
[09:47] <Razor-X> tommi^: where's your maildir located, is mbox a shell variable?
[09:48] <windex> punkass: sometimes linux has issues with unclean network hardware, when he rebooted, did he do a full power off or a soft reset?
[09:48] <Razor-X> tommi^: maildir/mbox are application specific, so please elaborate
[09:48] <renbolicious```> nevin, because i didnt know there was a config utility named esd
[09:48] <renbolicious```> ill try right away
[09:48] <tucoz> Razor-X: Oh,ok. Hmm, then I'll guess I'll stick with 5.04 then
[09:48] <punkass> windex: just a reboot
[09:48] <nevin> renbolicious```: esd is an equivalent to alsa
[09:48] <Razor-X> nevin: esd uses alsa
[09:48] <nevin> renbolicious```: it should come preconfigured with ubuntu
[09:48] <punkass> from the menu
[09:49] <tommi^> Randall64, no, I'm not really trying to do latex stuff. Maildir and mbox, shouldn't be too hard to figure out to what those are related to. Formats where you keep your mail in. For example, /var/spool/mail/Razor-X is in mbox format, I guess.
[09:49] <renbolicious```> hmm
[09:49] <renbolicious```> so what is the actual command to hack in?
[09:49] <tommi^> Randall64, not for you, for Razor-X
[09:49] <windex> punkass: i used to have a machine that had a integrated realtek nic, and if the machine was rebooted without powering off/on, the network interface got no traffic. i'm not saying that's the problem, but it could be.
[09:49] <Razor-X> tommi^: are the differences in how the text is stored?
[09:50] <Razor-X> try googling something too
[09:50] <punkass> windex: ill give that a shot...although the wireless stopped working too
[09:50] <Razor-X> if it's a text difference, a regexp will work
[09:50] <tommi^> Razor-X, mbox = one big file, Maildir = every message is a file.
[09:50] <nevin> renbolicious```: what are you trying to configure?
[09:50] <Razor-X> tommi^: you can write a script to change that
[09:50] <tommi^> Razor-X, that is, if you simplify it.
[09:50] <renbolicious```> my soundcard
[09:50] <renbolicious```> isa soundblaster 16
[09:50] <|satan|> i tried it on my base stattion
[09:50] <|satan|> and it loaded
[09:51] <nevin> renbolicious```: does it work at all?  what sort of problem are you hainvg?
[09:51] <Krueger> which gstreamer package should I install for WMA support ?
[09:51] <tommi^> Razor-X, I don't want to reinvent the wheel. I'm not sure even if I can.
[09:51] <windex> punkass: im thinking of possible issues, but i don't know much about ubuntu specific network configuration
[09:51] <godzirra_> hrm. how do I get the java plugin for firefox?  I've looked and cant find what package I need.
[09:51] <levander> Anybody know if the ubuntu developers are working on fixing these issues with CD burning in breezy?  I can't get anything to work from the command line.  Googling, lots of people with same problems, no answers.
[09:52] <occy> tritium, I updated the Ubuntu Forum post for that laptop model to include that bit of info you gave me to help other people in the future.
[09:52] <renbolicious```> I'm sry, I'm totally newb
[09:52] <OiPenguin> I've installed ubuntu on a low-spec system, but it's working poorly.
[09:52] <nevin> renbolicious```: what problem are you trying to solve?
[09:52] <renbolicious```> i wanna listen to music :)
[09:52] <OiPenguin> What's the minimum limit for an Ubuntu system
[09:52] <nevin> renbolicious```: mp3?
[09:52] <|satan|> can someone help me install this
[09:52] <nophix> godzirra_: sun-j2sdk1.5 maybe?
[09:53] <Belutz> is it save to uninstall all the library-dev packages?
[09:53] <OiPenguin> How do I find the specs on my computer in Ubuntu?
[09:53] <nevin> renbolicious```: if so, you need to install xmms (run "sudo apt-get install xmms")... the prepackaged music player isn't that great, I find
[09:53] <nevin> renbolicious```: then I can help you configure xmms
[09:53] <other|study> nevin: neither is xmms :p
[09:54] <godzirra_> nophix: I cant find that package....
[09:54] <punkass> windex: yeah this is pretty wierd
[09:54] <renbolicious```> i just installed xmms :P
[09:54] <renbolicious```> that i did know :D
[09:54] <raven3x7> OiPenguin, what exactly do you mean low-spec? if your system is really old maybe instead of gnome you should use fluxbox or any other lightweight window manager
[09:54] <Krueger> which gstreamer package should I install for WMA support ?
[09:54] <punkass> windex: and of course it has to be my buddys comp that is out of town
[09:54] <nevin> renbolicious```: start it, then open preferences (press ctrl+p)
[09:54] <nevin> renbolicious```: you should see a popup with a bunch of options, following so far?
[09:54] <windex> punkass: as root (or with sudo_, he can also try to run /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:55] <renbolicious```> k, i choose alsa...
[09:55] <OiPenguin> I've taken over an early pentium PC and I'm planning to prepare it for someone with no computer as alternative
[09:55] <raven3x7> Krueger, you probably need w32codecs
[09:55] <renbolicious```> i have to configure my sounddevice first
[09:55] <nevin> renbolicious```: choose eSound, it should work out of the box
[09:55] <nophix> godzirra_: there are many topics regarding java in the forums, try ubuntuguide.org too
[09:55] <Krueger> raven3x7: okay... thx
[09:55] <raven3x7> OiPenguin, how experienced is that someone?
[09:55] <OiPenguin> Is fluxbux easy for a newbie?
[09:55] <renbolicious```> nevin, no it doesnt :/
[09:56] <|satan|> can someone help me install this unbuntu
[09:56] <nevin> renbolicious```: in a console, run "killall esd", then "esd &"
[09:56] <OiPenguin> Used to surfing the net, that's about it. Not experienced. I'm experienced, but not with linux. I'm no possibility to solve his problems as the arise
[09:56] <raven3x7> OiPenguin, not really. uhm maybe fvwm'95 is a better choice. it looks alot like win95 although i find it rather ugly and featureless
[09:57] <raven3x7> OiPenguin, not sure if that one is in buntu though
[09:57] <OiPenguin> Is fluxbox in Ubuntu?
[09:57] <pestilence> OiPenguin: maybe xfce would be something to check out...you could configure it to be pretty easy to use.
[09:57] <raven3x7> OiPenguin, yes
[09:58] <pestilence> raven3x7: it's not in ubuntu proper is it?
[09:58] <pestilence> raven3x7: it's in universe, and that package doesn't work very well
[09:58] <OiPenguin> Cheers. Would that be an alternative to Gnome or KDE?
[09:58] <godzirra_> nophix: *shrug*  Ok.  I assumed it was a simple apt-get install...  of course, I assumed I could just do an apt-cache search and findit too ;)
[09:58] <OiPenguin> (I'm new in Linux, you know)
[09:58] <raven3x7> pestilence, what package are you talkin about fvwm95 or fluxbox?
[09:59] <raven3x7> OiPenguin, i think pestilence is right. you should try xfce
[09:59] <Krueger> in which repositorie can I find the w32codecs package ?
[09:59] <pestilence> raven3x7: fluxbox
[10:00] <robotgeek> !codecs
[10:00] <ubotu> codecs is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:00] <OiPenguin> How do I try xfce?
[10:00] <nariman> i need help with installing drivers
[10:00] <nariman> can some one help me?
[10:00] <raven3x7> pestilence i have it installed havent used it much. all i can say is afterstep is definetly very unstable
[10:00] <nariman> i want to install my wireless pcmcia card
[10:00] <nophix> nariman: what drivers first?
[10:00] <nophix> oh, nm
[10:00] <pestilence> raven3x7: heh.  i wasn't suggesting afterstep :)
[10:00] <nariman> ive found the drivers on the chipmakers page
[10:01] <cwarner> are changes into the ubuntu 2.6.10-5 kernel backported from latest stable?
[10:01] <punkass> windex: no luck with the network restart
[10:01] <windex> nariman: are they provided as source or binary only?
[10:01] <windex> punkass: i'm stumped. is he getting a link light on his hub/switch?
[10:02] <raven3x7> pestilence, nope you didnt. but that one is also in universe. i gouess wm not in ubuntu proper are probably not well tested. that was my point ;)
[10:02] <nariman> windex: source
[10:02] <punkass> windex: yes he is...even dmesg is showing that link is up
[10:02] <windex> nariman: have you installed kernel modules from source before?
[10:02] <raven3x7> OiPenguin, sudo aptitude install xfce probably
[10:03] <OiPenguin> Raven3x7: I've found this guide for fluxbox. Looks a lot less comprehensible than your one-liner.
[10:03] <nariman> no, ima a newbie so
[10:03] <nariman> i don think so
[10:03] <JoiIto> can I ask about hardware support on a T43? Is there one of the CD/DVD drives it supports or doesn't support? And does it support the PCI 802.11 card properly?
[10:03] <nariman> is it hard?
[10:04] <ccesario> hi..... I'm using the breezy version, and mey keyboard is configured to Abnt2 model... but the "/" keyboard don't work.... how to solve this...
[10:04] <OiPenguin> Will your one-liner do the whole thing, or will I need additional configuring?
[10:04] <OiPenguin> Rave3x7: The aformentioned guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51942&highlight=howto+fluxbox
[10:05] <windex> nariman: well, you need a development enviroment (gcc, etc). if you don't have one, it'll take a minute to install it
[10:05] <raven3x7> OiPenguin, well it will download and install xfce. dunno how well configured it is. It will most probably work though
[10:06] <raven3x7> OiPenguin, hmm i installed fluxbox with apt havent used/configured it much since though. i can confirm that fluxbo needs work after install though
[10:06] <raven3x7> !xfce
[10:06] <ubotu> raven3x7: I don't know
[10:07] <robotgeek> !info xfce
[10:07] <ubotu> xfce: (The Cholesterol Free Desktop Environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 3.8.18-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 907 kB, Installed size: 2548 kB
[10:08] <OiPenguin> Thanks, I'll try and see how it goes. With the current set-up, how do I find out RAM and CPU of my computer?
[10:09] <raven3x7> robotgeek i was looking for a guide actually. i guess xfce is a metapackage
[10:09] <musicman2059> xfce > gnome > kde :P
[10:10] <HiddenWolf> I have a very old laptop, and I can't get xorg to work on it, any hints?
[10:11] <raven3x7> OiPenguin, System > Device Manager might give you details and there is probably a much more effective terminal command but i dunno it
[10:11] <robotgeek> raven3x7: i don't think you are gonna find a guide from ubotu :)
[10:11] <robotgeek> lspci,lsusb
[10:11] <raven3x7> robotgeek it does have some links to the wiki
[10:12] <robotgeek> raven3x7: cool
[10:12] <raven3x7> although not for xfce apparently
[10:13] <raven3x7> OiPenguin, that System > Administration > Device Manager actually sorry
[10:13] <raven3x7> musicman2059, i havent seen it decently preconfigured on any distro i tried it
[10:14] <ccesario> somebody have any idea... about abnt2 keyboard
[10:14] <OiPenguin> Cheers, I'll have to switch computers. Back soon if everything goes well.
[10:15] <Geoffrian> Does anyone have a Dell printer working in Ubuntu?????
[10:15] <Manawyddan> hi, everyone. i've installed python through synaptic, and now i would like to create an icon for it(IDLE), but it seams that i can't find the right file, can someone help me with this?
[10:15] <Dr_Fate> I do I uninstall a package and everything that depends on that package?
[10:16] <^thehatsrule^> icon? what would you need an icon for?
[10:16] <raven3x7> doess anyone know if udev can be disabled at boot in ubuntu?
[10:17] <Manawyddan> it's just so that i don't have to invoke from the prompt all the time.
[10:18] <Dr_Fate> How do I uninstall a package and everything that depends on that package?
[10:18] <Manawyddan> i think using synaptic will do the trick
[10:20] <Mittens87> hello
[10:21] <Mittens87> anyone willing to help me with connecting to the internet?
[10:21] <benplaut> Mittens87: sure... i see... cable?
[10:21] <benplaut> (i can't but someone can)
[10:22] <Mittens87> whos that someone?
[10:22] <cwarner> udev can't be disabled at boot unless you replace it with a way to create device nodes.
[10:22] <cwarner> are there any ubuntu kernel team members in here?
[10:22] <Mittens87> cwarner can you help me with my ubuntu?
[10:23] <cwarner> whats wrong?
[10:23] <raven3x7> Mittens87, if you dont tell us what type of conection you have noone will be able to help
[10:23] <raven3x7> cwarner thanks
[10:23] <Mittens87> i cant connect to the internet, wirelessly or through a wire connection
[10:23] <Mittens87> its cable
[10:24] <cwarner> have you done the obvious?? IE: make sure your cables are connected etc?
[10:24] <Mittens87> it recognizes my wireless card and pci card in my laptop
[10:24] <Mittens87> yes
[10:24] <raven3x7> Mittens87, unfortunatly i have no experience with cable modems or wifi unfurtunatly\
[10:24] <Mittens87> even the router shows that someone has connected (my laptop wiht ubuntu on it)
[10:24] <dmgunn> When I install ImageMagick from synaptic, it doesn't show up under Applications -> Graphics... does anyone know why?
[10:24] <Brian_Boruma> well i've gotten privateer to run but the frame rates are unbearable
[10:24] <windex> imagemagick is a set of libraries and command line utilities
[10:25] <Mittens87> is there a way to manually switch connections?
[10:25] <Brian_Boruma> i mean my mouse cursor get 2 frames a sec
[10:25] <nariman> be be be dididi kll!
[10:25] <raven3x7> dmgunn some apps need you to manually create an entry
[10:25] <Brian_Boruma> any solutions on fixing this problem
[10:25] <dmgunn> windex, thanks.. so how do I execute it?
[10:25] <cwarner> Mittens87, do your wireless and wired connections both provide internet access??
[10:25] <dmgunn> raven3x7, thats pretty lame.. thanks tho
[10:25] <windex> dmgunn: it depends, there are multiple programs for resizing images
[10:25] <Mittens87> yes i'm on the connection now
[10:26] <Mittens87> it doesnt give my laptop an ip
[10:26] <Mittens87> it connects but dhcp doesnt kick in
[10:26] <Brian_Boruma> windex ive gotten it to run and everything looks good, i just cant get frames rates above 1-2 fps
[10:26] <windex> dmgunn: the most common is 'convert'. check it's man page.
[10:26] <raven3x7> Brian_Boruma, you have installed drivers for your graphics card?
[10:26] <cwarner> Mittens87, ok lets fix some of your terminology here.. when you say it "connects" explain that to me
[10:26] <dmgunn> windex, thanks.. I want to draw tho.. and I find gimp complicated
[10:26] <Brian_Boruma> raven3x7 well just what ubuntu has loaded for them initially
[10:26] <Mittens87> now the network connection says its connectet to "lo"
[10:27] <raven3x7> Brian_Boruma, nvidia or ati?
[10:27] <Mittens87> like when i go onto the config to my router, it shows that its connected in the log, but never shows that it assigned an ip to the laptop
[10:27] <windex> dmgunn: imagemagick is not a gui editor, it's for doing automated image manipulation last i knew.
[10:27] <Krueger> by installing xfce in synaptic ?
[10:27] <cwarner> Mittens87, ok you're confusing some terms here.. you're not connected.. if the network or wireless card cannot get information from the dhcp server then they can be given a respective ip
[10:27] <siimo> is breezy compiled with gcc 4
[10:27] <dmgunn> Mittens87, go to Connection properties and change Name to eth0
[10:27] <cwarner> Mittens87, can't even
[10:27] <windex> Brian_Boruma: you're going to have to get help from raven3x7 or another if you want help getting 3d acceleration to work out
[10:27] <Brian_Boruma> ati
[10:28] <cwarner> Mittens87, are you using gnome or kde?
[10:28] <Mittens87> how do i get to connection properties warner
[10:28] <Mittens87> ?
[10:28] <Mittens87> gnome
[10:28] <Brian_Boruma> ive done this xorg-driver-fglrx-dev
[10:28] <dmgunn> windex: thanks..
[10:28] <Brian_Boruma> for the ati drivers
[10:28] <cwarner> Mittens87, System/Administration/Networking
[10:28] <Brian_Boruma> is that correct?
[10:30] <cwarner> Mittens87, from there you'll be presented with a window.. it has a notebook widget (the thing with the tabs) consisting of the following panes.. Connections/General/DNS/Hosts
[10:30] <HiddenWolf> Guys, I've got an ancient laptop that'll go into hardlock the minute I launch X, how can I figure out which xorg settings I need to set?
[10:30] <raven3x7> Brian_Boruma, i've alway had nvidia but there is a guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?highlight=%28binary%29
[10:30] <cwarner> Mittens87, you'll want to make sure that the ethernet connection is available or the wireless connection depending on what you would like to use.. they should be "active".. if they are already active you'll want to check the "Properties" button
[10:31] <PrimoTurbo> msg nickserv set email primoturbo@gmail.com
[10:31] <PrimoTurbo> oops
[10:31] <PrimoTurbo> forgot the slash
[10:31] <La_PaRCa> jaja
[10:31] <Mittens87> ok so i want to stick with wireless so i'll just set wireless to active
[10:31] <cwarner> Mittens87, from here it'll give you a window listing your connection settings etc etc.. Configuration: should be DHCP if you are using DHCP otherwise it will be Static IP
[10:31] <cwarner> Mittens87, ok
[10:32] <Mittens87> shit now the network connections arent even loading hold on i'm gonna restart
[10:32] <cwarner> Mittens87, you shouldn't need to restart
[10:32] <blueyed> can I switch somehow to a pts that I see with "w"?
[10:34] <cwarner> firefox has severe mem leaks
[10:34] <cwarner> and I need some kernel backports :-)
[10:35] <siimo> cwarner, no it doesnt
[10:35] <Mez> doubt we'll ever backport the kernel cwarner
[10:35] <phixion> cwarner - running 1.0.6?
[10:35] <Mez> cwarner, not Charles Warner?
[10:35] <cwarner> yes.. firefox does..
[10:35] <cwarner> Christopher
[10:35] <Mez> ah fair enough, my old boss (sort of) was Charles Warner :D
[10:35] <siimo> it must be your config, it works fine here no leaks
[10:35] <hybrid_goth> musicman2059: i just apt-get install  xfce4 and it worked
[10:36] <phixion> lol
[10:36] <cwarner> hah.. well then my name is Charles.. lets get some kernel backporting
[10:36] <raven3x7> cwarner hmmm i havent noticed any serious performance issues with firefox on linux. windoze is another story though. if i leave ff running long enough the system becomes unuseable
[10:36] <musicman2059> apt-get install isn't possible without an internet connection since XFCE isn't on the CD to begin with. :P
[10:36] <Mez> cwarner: the Kernel WILL NOT be backported.
[10:36] <Mez> at the current point in time
[10:36] <siimo> but i run the official builds of firefox, not ubuntu builds
[10:36] <phixion> hey Mez, you in birmingham?
[10:36] <Mez> and cwarner if your name is charles, you owe me money
[10:37] <Mez> phixion, yes, sort of, why
[10:37] <phixion> < telford :-)
[10:37] <phixion> not far from b'ham
[10:37] <Mez> <-- tamworth, not far from B'ham either
[10:37] <phixion> :D
[10:37] <phixion> ah near the safari park?
[10:37] <phixion> thats in tamworth isnt it?
[10:37] <Mez> o_O
[10:37] <Mez> Drayton Manor you're thinking of
[10:38] <phixion> oh ye
[10:38] <phixion> well, one of em :)
[10:38] <phixion> used to go to em as a kid
[10:38] <cwarner> i'll have to roll my own kernel then..
[10:38] <cwarner> ahhh god.. here we go..
[10:38] <Mez> cwarner, you can backport it yourself: just we wont backport it officially
[10:39] <cwarner> yeah i'll have to backport I just need a couple patches anyway.. i can't wait till october.. hows breezy coming?
[10:40] <raven3x7> anyone have any idea why compiling nvidia 6111 kernel module succeds but it fails to insert it and then aborts installation?
[10:40] <raven3x7> on hoary
[10:40] <Brian_Boruma> raven3x7 well the thing is i have and igp because its running from my laptop it is an rs200M
[10:40] <mika5> tu
[11:09] (LasseL/#ubuntu) the trick is of course that modern "2d" programs utilize the 3d pipeline
[11:10] (kemik/#ubuntu) cwarner:  k, then maybe he just did something wrong
[11:10] <Brian_Boruma> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[11:10] <Brian_Boruma> bash: dpkg-reconfig: command not found
[11:10] <Brian_Boruma> am i not doing this correctly?|
[11:10] <kemik> LasseL:  use fglrx then, i'd say it would be the easiest way
[11:10] <windex> dpkg-reconfigure
[11:10] <windex> Brian_Boruma: it needs to be run with 'sudo' in front of it
[11:11] <kemik> Brian_Boruma:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:11] <cwarner> kemik, well its a command line thing... i don't believe its something you can set up from ubuntu.. so hes not to blame.. maybe someoen should write a util or maybe someone already has
[11:12] <kemik> ok..
[11:12] <kemik> im not pro-ati or nvidia tho
[11:12] <LasseL> FYI: the current and to a greater degree the next version of java uses all OpenGL to draw graphics with -- really fast if the drivers are good enough
[11:12] <vassie> hello all
[11:12] <kemik> i was thinking of getting a nvidia card for my next box, but since he had such a hassle with the drivers i guess im sticking with ATi
[11:12] <cwarner> i'm biased.. so you'll have to pardon me..
[11:12] <windex> lassel: for 2d, you want the driver with the least possible mucking about while writing to video memory, basically.
[11:12] <colmore> Is there an app I can run that will tell me if I'm using hardware acceleration for openGL or not?
[11:13] <cwarner> kemik, thats fine.. use what works for you
[11:14] <LasseL> windex, I am just saying that you can't tell if an applications is 2D or 3D anymore
[11:14] <telemaco> i upgrade from hoary to breezy and in breezy there isn't a mkfontdir command , anyone can help me ?
[11:14] <windex> lassel: except for the lag rendering complex screens in 2d or the lag rendering 3d? :D
[11:15] <kemik> telemaco:  check topic ;)
[11:15] <LasseL> well, after i changed from metacity to openbox i am actually happy about performance
[11:16] <windex> lassel: lag with window managers is the fault of the window manager -- more complex, more lag.
[11:16] <crispynix-v6> LasseL: ugh, are you serious? even though I just got a new cooler for my card, I don't *want* java apps to use OpenGL. How to turn it off?
[11:17] <LasseL> crispynix-v6, 1) why could you want to turn it off. 2) in java 5 it is off by default :)
[11:17] <telemaco> kemik: yeah , i know ... but i develop a ubuntu distro based and i need breezy :)
[11:17] <Razor-X> windex: wow, you help for ages
[11:17] <Razor-X> telemaco: can't you custom add the packages?
[11:17] <crispynix-v6> LasseL: anything OpenGL puts my card into 3D mode (i.e. higher clocks, more heat)
[11:17] <windex> Razor-X: technically i calling this working, to make up for the dozen cd's i just ordered from shipit.
[11:17] <crispynix-v6> LasseL: that's okay for gaming (on and off), but not okay for apps (that I might run for a while longer)
[11:18] <Razor-X> windex: .... mmmkay
[11:18] <LasseL> crispynix-v6, because of the noise?
[11:18] <Razor-X> i'm on vacation, after finals
[11:18] <Razor-X> the course is easy, but hell, the guy grades hard as _fsck_
[11:18] <crispynix-v6> LasseL: no, the heat; the new cooler is quite quiet
[11:18] <telemaco> Razor-X: what do you mean ?
[11:18] <cwarner> Mittens87, i'm sorry but i must leave.. hopefully your network connectivity problems are relegated to a faulty cable or hardware or something
[11:18] <Razor-X> telemaco: if you're making an Ubuntu based distro, A) Stability should be better than bleeding edge and B) Packages specifically in Breezy can be incorporated in by yourself
[11:19] <windex> Razor-X: i am also hoping my helping people in here will catch me up to speed on ubuntu specifics since i am hoping to suggest a customer install it over windows. :D
[11:19] <stan-am> hello everyone
[11:19] <Razor-X> windex: nice ;)
[11:19] <stan-am> can anyone give me a hand with a script?
[11:19] <PrimoTurbo> How do I mount my c drive so I access it?
[11:19] <PrimoTurbo> Someone help me pls...
[11:19] <Razor-X> PrimoTurbo: what's the fs type on it?
[11:19] <PrimoTurbo> ntsf
[11:20] <PrimoTurbo> windows xp
[11:20] <Razor-X> PrimoTurbo: ll hlp u XD
[11:20] <PrimoTurbo> c:\
[11:20] <nariman> is redhat easier to use than ubuntu
[11:20] <Razor-X> PrimoTurbo: ntsf?
[11:20] <PrimoTurbo> thnx :)
[11:20] <PrimoTurbo> yes
[11:20] <windex> ntfs.. is read-only in linux, PrimoTurbo. :)
[11:20] <Razor-X> XD
[11:20] <Razor-X> sorry, sorry
[11:20] <PrimoTurbo> that's fine
[11:20] <nariman> when it comes to install files and apps
[11:20] <PrimoTurbo> all I need is read only
[11:20] <stan-am> hey razor-x wanna give me a hand?
[11:20] <raven3x7> nariman not really imho
[11:20] <other|study> windex: no it's not
[11:20] <Razor-X> PrimoTurbo: sudo mount /dev/path/to/drive /mnt/existing/mount/point
[11:20] <stan-am> its just a basic script
[11:20] <Brian_Boruma> raven3x7 how do i know what my bus identifier is for my Laptop Video
[11:20] <windex> other|study: the writing driver causes all kinds of hell.
[11:21] <LasseL> PrimoTurbo, /dev/hda1       /media/win_c    ntfs    ro,dmask=0222,fmask=0333 0 0
[11:21] <Brian_Boruma> it is telling me pci:1:5:0
[11:21] <Brian_Boruma> but i thought it was AGP
[11:21] <other|study> windex: so ;)
[11:21] <windex> other|study: thus i tell everyone it is readonly.
[11:21] <LasseL> PrimoTurbo, from my /etc/fstab -- remember to create the folder you mount to and run "sudo mount -a" after you edit the file
[11:21] <stan-am> im trying to install Mercury messenger and im getting the following error message "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ClassFormatError: com.dMSN.Main (erroneous class name)"
[11:21] <windex> other|study: it automatically prevents people from being dumb by default.
[11:21] <Razor-X> am I the only one that still uses /mnt as mount-points?
[11:21] <stan-am> does anyone know what im talking about?
[11:21] <telemaco> Razor-X: a ) the estable version of my distro now exist (www.molinux.info) and is based in hoary , now i want to begin the next version beezy based , b ) i need sleep and don't work more ... hard week ;)
[11:22] <Razor-X> guess it's legacy still stuck in me ;)
[11:22] <other|study> windex: lol i think you can't prevent that ;)
[11:22] <PrimoTurbo> huh this is confusing me do I need to edit any part of Razor-X posted?
[11:22] <windex> other|study: I CAN TRY!
[11:22] <PrimoTurbo> sorry I'm new
[11:22] <other|study> lol
[11:22] <windex> PrimoTurbo: that depends on many factors that im sure Razor-X would be happy to go over with you.
[11:22] <Brian_Boruma> Razor-X can you provide me with some assistance
[11:22] <raven3x7> Brian_Boruma, i have never had a laptop unfortunatly. im not sure what bus integrated cards occupy. lcpi might tell you
[11:22] <stan-am> im trying to install Mercury messenger and im getting the following error message "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ClassFormatError: com.dMSN.Main (erroneous class name)"
[11:23] <Brian_Boruma> i am int the proccess of re configuring my xserver.xorg video setup
[11:23] <stan-am> can anyone help me????
[11:23] <LasseL> PrimoTurbo, what Razor-X posted will mount it once. What I posted will mount it automatically when you boot
[11:23] <windex> other|study: i'd rather tell them its readonly than tell them it can do either and then have them obliterate their disk.
[11:23] <PrimoTurbo> I want it to mount it when I reboot
[11:23] <telemaco> stan-am: you can use amsn and gaim for msn conections , why don't use one of this ?
[11:24] <windex> other|study: i tried using it rw once for a read-only job (didn't specify flags) and it managed to kill the thing. luckily i had copied all of my important data off of it.
[11:24] <other|study> lol nice
[11:24] <LasseL> !repos
[11:24] <ubotu> I guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:24] <streetbmx> hello
[11:25] <windex> ok
[11:25] <PrimoTurbo> I don't think I have /etc/fstab
[11:25] <Razor-X> PrimoTurbo: you do
[11:25] <windex> right now is the end of my workday on friday
[11:25] <Brian_Boruma> do i want to use Kernel framebuffer device
[11:25] <windex> even though i'm self employed.
[11:25] <Razor-X> PrimoTurbo: cat /etc/fstab
[11:25] <Brian_Boruma> ?
[11:25] <Razor-X> windex: XD
[11:25] <windex> so i'll be leaving now, kids. :) thanks for entertaining me.
[11:25] <LasseL> PrimoTurbo, "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" from a prompt
[11:25] <vader1102> Right now I am drinking a beer windex lol
[11:25] <Razor-X> for people who don't understand the Linux partitioning scheme, I encourage you people to _read_
[11:25] <Razor-X> XD
[11:25] <PrimoTurbo> oh i see it's a file
[11:25] <paper-sith> razor-x:  need a little help w/ gnome-app-install.  it will not open
[11:26] <Razor-X> although, that's one of those arcane obsolete arts
[11:26] <Razor-X> paper-sith: gnome-app-install?
[11:26] <Razor-X> I don't have Gnome experience *shrugs*
[11:26] <windex|aways> vader1102: yeah but i'd like to be sober if i actually get a customer call. not having a normal day job anymore would make it very easy for me to consider drinking. a lot.
[11:26] <Razor-X> PrimoTurbo: there is no such thing as file extensions in Linux
[11:26] <Razor-X> there's no ``fstab.txt''
[11:26] <streetbmx> how is ubuntu's support for laptops?
[11:26] <Brian_Boruma> Razor-X
[11:26] <vader1102> windex: lol
[11:26] <Brian_Boruma> do i want to use Kernel framebuffer device
[11:26] <PrimoTurbo> now I know
[11:26] <Razor-X> Linux is extension free, that way you can't confuse a progam by changing the file extension
[11:26] <PrimoTurbo> thanks
[11:27] <Razor-X> benplaut: you have a regexp to cut my hair? ;)
[11:27] <windex|aways> Razor-X: not entirely true, some apps do use extensions, they just don't matter _at all_ in linux.
[11:27] <benplaut> yup
[11:27] <paper-sith> razor-x:  thanks anyways
[11:27] <Razor-X> windex|aways: that's why _Linux_ is extension free
[11:27] <benplaut> you pay shipping :P
[11:27] <Razor-X> some apps do use it
[11:27] <Razor-X> like .run files
[11:27] <windex|aways> anyway
[11:27] <windex|aways> buh bye.
[11:27] <Razor-X> or .tar.gz
[11:27] <Razor-X> yeah, see yah windex|aways
[11:27] <PrimoTurbo> I need to reboot I guess I edited fstab and added what I was told to
[11:27] <PrimoTurbo> brb
[11:27] <Razor-X> PrimoTurbo: no, you don't need to reboot
[11:28] <Razor-X> at least, I don't think so
[11:28] <kemik> just mount
[11:28] <LasseL> PrimoTurbo, please take the time to read what we write to you
[11:28] <Razor-X> in Linux, you rarely _ever_ need to reboot
[11:28] <PrimoTurbo> ohh
[11:28] <Razor-X> rebooting is a Windows thing that wastes to much time
[11:28] <PrimoTurbo> i see my bad
[11:28] <digitalfox|DnD> only time is updating a kernel
[11:28] <Razor-X> s/to/too/
[11:29] <Razor-X> the only time I had to reboot after changing something was after I changed my default shell ;)
[11:29] <PrimoTurbo> so I need to create win_c folder now and then sudo mount -a
[11:29] <Razor-X> PrimoTurbo: yeahp
[11:30] <Brian_Boruma> I suck Im going back to windows
[11:30] <Razor-X> the mount point needs to exits
[11:30] <Razor-X> Brian_Boruma: Windows gives me headaches
[11:30] <Razor-X> ;)
[11:30] <Razor-X> I get stuck in Windows, too damn neanderthalic for me
[11:30] <Razor-X> heh
[11:30] <Brian_Boruma> well im getting a tumor right now
[11:30] <PrimoTurbo> crap how can I make a folder exactly when I left click I don't see any option to do so
[11:30] <PrimoTurbo> I am in /media/
[11:30] <Razor-X> PrimoTurbo: you ever touched the command line? ;)
[11:30] <Razor-X> sudo mkdir /media/win_c
[11:30] <PrimoTurbo> yes
[11:30] <kemik> PrimoTurbo:  in terminal: mkdir [foldername] 
[11:30] <PrimoTurbo> alright
[11:30] <PrimoTurbo> rm to remove right
[11:31] <PrimoTurbo> or is that for files
[11:31] <Razor-X> yeah
[11:31] <kemik> yes
[11:31] <Razor-X> cp to copy
[11:31] <kemik> rm -rf folder
[11:31] <Razor-X> mv to move
[11:31] <HiddenWolf> I've just installed xfce on ubuntu, and I'd like gdm to go straight to xfce without asking for a password. How can i set this?
[11:31] <kemik> mv rename
[11:31] <PrimoTurbo> I see thnx
[11:31] <Razor-X> and thnx isn't an English word ;)
[11:31] <PrimoTurbo> mv rename or move?
[11:31] <Razor-X> mv == move
[11:31] <kemik> (mv is actually move.. but hey, who cares? ;) )
[11:31] <Razor-X> mv _also_ works as rename
[11:31] <PrimoTurbo> I see
[11:31] <PrimoTurbo> mv sdas sdfasf
[11:31] <Razor-X> because if you move one file to another filename it's renamed
[11:31] <PrimoTurbo> right?
[11:31] <kemik> i guess Razor-X cares :P
[11:31] <Razor-X> yeah, exactly
[11:32] <Razor-X> kemik: I use shells a lot ;0
[11:32] <Razor-X> s/;0/;)/
[11:32] <hybrid_goth> mv pwns
[11:32] <kemik> i do too :)
[11:32] <PrimoTurbo> great, I finally got it to work :)
[11:32] <PrimoTurbo> thanks
[11:32] <ohad> what is the difference between ubuntu and debian?
[11:33] <PrimoTurbo> I can't move stuff can I? or it has bad support or something?
[11:33] <kemik> PrimoTurbo:  what do you mean?
[11:33] <PrimoTurbo> like if I have a mp3 I have on linux and I want to move it to mount
[11:33] <kemik> you can move your own files etc, but i wouldnt move the systemfiles
[11:33] <PrimoTurbo> that's not what I mean
[11:33] <PrimoTurbo> I'm talking about the win_c mount I have
[11:33] <kemik> PrimoTurbo:  you cant write to a NTFS partition f.ex
[11:34] <PrimoTurbo> are you sure cause someone said that I can
[11:34] <kemik> if you want to write to your windows partition, you'll have to have windows on a FAT32 partition
[11:34] <zer> you *can* write to a ntfs-partition...but not create files
[11:34] <PrimoTurbo> I see
[11:34] <PrimoTurbo> so I can move a mp3 file
[11:35] <virtuel> zer, isn't the ntfs support still so experimental the best advice is "don
[11:35] <virtuel> 't attempt writing"?
[11:35] <kemik> PrimoTurbo:  no, its not recommended to write to NTFS
[11:35] <PrimoTurbo> I see, i'll avoid it then
[11:35] <PrimoTurbo> thanks for you help the 10 people that helped me
[11:35] <zer> sure, you should avoid to do things like that :)
[11:36] <JadeRobbins> OMG
[11:36] <JadeRobbins> a guy on the forums helped me get my laptop working
[11:36] <JadeRobbins> i'm so excited i could pee my pants
[11:36] <PrimoTurbo> now to get battlefield 2 running
[11:36] <PrimoTurbo> on linux
[11:36] <kemik> JadeRobbins:  dont let us stop you :P
[11:36] <JadeRobbins> har har
[11:36] <Random_Sindrom> which starter bar is better in gnome?
[11:36] <kemik> PrimoTurbo:  is there a linux install for it ? or are you planning to use Cedega?
[11:39] <PrimoTurbo> I don't think there is linux support for it but it more or less a joke because the game destroys my system
[11:39] <lasindi> Hello, I'm having trouble dual-booting Windows and Kubuntu (I had the same issue with Ubuntu). I installed it, and now when I try to boot Windows, a blue screen pops up for half a second and then the computer restarts.
[11:39] <PrimoTurbo> to play it well you need at least 2 gb of ram
[11:40] <PrimoTurbo> cause it's so poorly coded when compared to other games in similar landscape size like ut2k4
[11:40] <lasindi> Does anyone know what's going on?
[11:40] <benplaut> lasindi: was it a fresh install of Win?
[11:40] <LasseL> lasindi, bad news: that will be hard to fix without reinstalling windows. good news: you wont miss it a bit :p
[11:40] <benplaut> lol
[11:40] <PrimoTurbo> fdisk /mbr
[11:40] <lasindi> So, I need to reinstall Windows now?
[11:41] <benplaut> :/
[11:41] <PrimoTurbo> you might have to
[11:41] <lasindi> benplaut, not quite. I installed SP1 and upgraded to SP2.
[11:41] <PrimoTurbo> check the error on google maybe it's something u can fix
[11:41] <LasseL> lasindi, that worst thing about it that reinstalling windows will kill your dual-boot configuration
[11:41] <kemik> yup.. not worth the hassle lasindi
[11:42] <kemik> use the freespace for linux instead ;)
[11:42] <PrimoTurbo> you can't avoid windows 100%
[11:42] <lasindi> I'm not quite following ...
[11:42] <Firetech> how can I mount a partition with ISO 8859-1 charset (old data)?
[11:42] <kemik> on my wishlist: online-pokerclients for linux!
[11:42] <LasseL> lasindi, try pressing F8 (?) during startup and boot into "safe mode"
[11:42] <kemik> PrimoTurbo:  why not ?
[11:42] <PrimoTurbo> because gaming is impossible
[11:42] <phixion> yeah kemik... trying to get partypoker.com client working :/
[11:43] <PrimoTurbo> the preformance is too poor for emulation
[11:43] <kemik> phixion:  i've used Expekt.com client with Wine.. missed sound, but worked apart fomr that
[11:43] <PrimoTurbo> but it's not 100%
[11:43] <LasseL> PrimoTurbo, I agree with you. But not everybody is gamers
[11:43] <PrimoTurbo> true
[11:43] <phixion> well, I'm guessing I need partypoker.com client to work to get on their servers :/
[11:43] <PrimoTurbo> that's the only downfall imo
[11:43] <kemik> PrimoTurbo:  alot of gamers have used Cedega or Wine with good performance in games
[11:43] <phixion> i have wine and cedega, it didnt work on either
[11:43] <PrimoTurbo> but it's not as fast as windows
[11:44] <PrimoTurbo> so why use something that's slower
[11:44] <kemik> PrimoTurbo:  friend of mine even had better performance in WoW using Cedega than windows
[11:44] <lasindi> LasseL, same thing happens with safe mode
[11:44] <phixion> PrimoTurbo, wrong, some games run faster in Linux
[11:44] <PrimoTurbo> some games
[11:44] <PrimoTurbo> like quake3 or doom3 i'm guessing
[11:44] <lasindi> So what did I do wrong when I installed Ubuntu?
[11:44] <PrimoTurbo> but most games don't run at all so u need to emulate and that is slower
[11:44] <kemik> phixion:  threaten to withdraw your money if they dont make a linux-client
[11:45] <LasseL> lasindi, hard to say. maybe windows just broke down on you. seen that before
[11:45] <kemik> phixion:  what bugs me the most is that the B2B network has a java-based client, but only for windows afaik :///
[11:45] <lasindi> LasseL, it only breaks on me when I install ubuntu or kubuntu.
[11:45] <lasindi> It was working perfectly before.
[11:45] <PrimoTurbo> is there anyway they can add windows support to linux so you could run everything with out emulation or am I so far out that it's stupid
[11:45] <phixion> kemik, i only play with play-chips :)
[11:45] <LasseL> kemik, a windows only java program -- those are quite rare :)
[11:45] <lasindi> Wouldn't this have something to do with the boot loader?
[11:46] <kemik> phixion:  oh, just try out expekt instead then :)
[11:46] <PrimoTurbo> lasindi how do you install it?
[11:46] <PrimoTurbo> did you make a seperate partition
[11:46] <phixion> kemik, i have friends that play on partypoker.com :()
[11:46] <lasindi> PrimoTurbo, I had Windows installed on a partition that left about 10 GB of free space on the hard drive.
[11:46] <kemik> LasseL:  they've compiled it to .exe files... go figure
[11:46] <OiPenguin> Anyone: Error: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:46] <lasindi> in the Ubuntu installer, I had it install on the "remaining free space"
[11:46] <PrimoTurbo> alright
[11:46] <kemik> phixion:  ah i c :/
[11:46] <PrimoTurbo> what is the error you get
[11:47] <PrimoTurbo> or is it too fast to see it?
[11:47] <LasseL> kemik, usually they just compile a launcher and the jar files are still there. You just need to figure out which on to call
[11:47] <PrimoTurbo> because if it's windows xp then it's very rare that windows fucks up by itself when installing linux
[11:48] <PrimoTurbo> the only time I've messed up windows when installing linux is partioning from windows
[11:48] <lasindi> PrimoTurbo, a blue screen just flashes up and then disappears as it restarts.
[11:48] <GammaRay> I've had it happen two times myself
[11:48] <shadeofgrey> Hi guys!
[11:48] <lasindi> GammaRay, you've had this same problem?
[11:48] <PrimoTurbo> do u have anything important on the windows partition
[11:49] <kemik> LasseL:  belive me, you cant
[11:49] <GammaRay> both times it suddenly cound not find a .dll right after I installed linux on another parimary partition
[11:49] <lasindi> No, but I don't know what I did wrong.
[11:49] <PrimoTurbo> is it ntsf or fat32?
[11:49] <GammaRay> lasindi: dunno.. lemme actually look
[11:49] <lasindi> ntsf
[11:49] <PrimoTurbo> hmm
[11:49] <PrimoTurbo> it's possible you didn't do anything wrong
[11:49] <shadeofgrey> Listen I was wondering...  its possible to run windows programs like dreamweaver mx 2004 and mirc on ubuntu sysstems right?  which program should i use to accomplish  this, wine or winex?
[11:50] <PrimoTurbo> but some how linux or windows fucked up
[11:50] <kemik> LasseL:  Can jag installera pokerns software bde p en PC och en Mac?
[11:50] <kemik> Nej, pokerns software fungrar bara p PC. Softwaren fungerar inte p Mac eftersom de inte kan hantera Java-program. Detta inkluderar ocks Linux-anvndare. <- i guess you can read that ;)
[11:50] <PrimoTurbo> lasindi can u read anything on the blue screen?
[11:50] <kemik> (of course, they're silly saying that Mac/Linux cant handle JAva-programs.. hehe)
[11:50] <PrimoTurbo> do u have a digital camera?
[11:51] <PrimoTurbo> try taking a picture if it's too fast
[11:51] <GammaRay> lasindi: no I've never had that specific problem.
[11:51] <PrimoTurbo> so u know what error it is
[11:51] <PrimoTurbo> Because it's hard to know what happened unless we know what error you are getting
[11:51] <lasindi> PrimoTurbo, let me try again
[11:51] <phixion> kemik, i just emailed partypoker :) maybe some compliments thrown their way will help them make a linux based client :)
[11:52] <LasseL> kemik, you know which compiler they use? This: http://www.excelsior-usa.com ?
[11:52] <bitkrom> what are backports?
[11:52] <Grid_block> hey all just got myselft gnome sudoku 0.2 ... how do i install it?
[11:52] <Mez> !backports
[11:52] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[11:52] <LasseL> Yes, but what are they
[11:53] <Mez> lol
[11:53] <kemik> phixion:  one can only hope :)
[11:53] <Mez> I assumed tht would exmplain
[11:53] <kemik> LasseL:  no idea
[11:53] <shellhack> hey someone I need help I cant see my wmv videos
[11:53] <LasseL> and why is the "official" ones better than the old ones
[11:53] <Seveas> shellhack: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[11:53] <LasseL> which someone in here had me disable because the "sucked"
[11:53] <Seveas> LasseL, because the servers are more reliable
[11:53] <Mez> backports are basically upgrades to current versions
[11:53] <Seveas> and the quality of backports has improved a lot since the project started
[11:54] <Mez> LasseL, ??
[11:54] <shellhack> i just cant see it wmv videos
[11:54] <LasseL> Seveas, the ftp server is less likely to crash ?
[11:54] <lasindi> PrimoTurbo, no, it's just too fast
[11:54] <Seveas> LasseL, they are now on the Ubuntu master servers :)
[11:54] <shellhack> seveas: I just need to play wmv format
[11:54] <Mez> yes, and also, the fact that they will be building in a buildd means that you can get them on all archs, rather than ones we can get our team to build
[11:54] <Seveas> shellhack, then you need to read that page, it explains how to do that
[11:54] <LasseL> Seveas, but backports is "stuff from breezy on hoary" ?
[11:55] <Seveas> LasseL, correct
[11:55] <phixion> Mez, if i add the official backports to my repositories list, would it be wise to sudo apt-get upgrade? oits listing a few files for me to upgrade
[11:55] <AdmiralSenn> hey everyone
[11:55] <Mez> phixion, yes, as the official backprots are of a higher quality than the unofficial
[11:55] <LasseL> Seveas, and if I don't add them I won't get upgrades? My firefox got upgraded, but that was just a security fix ..
[11:55] <shellhack> seveas: thanks
[11:56] <phixion> ok thanks Mez
[11:56] <Seveas> LasseL, you get all security upgrades if you don't add them...
[11:56] <imaek[away] > Is there a small program that I can use to track the activity on a specific interface?
[11:56] <bitkrom> are we still using hoary 5.04?
[11:56] <Seveas> and regular upgrades only when Ubuntu releases a new version (every 6 months)
[11:56] <PrimoTurbo> lasindi: It's too bad
[11:56] <pestilence> imaek[away] : tcpdump?
[11:56] <Seveas> bitkrom, yes
[11:56] <phixion> brb
[11:56] <pestilence> imaek[away] : ethereal?
[11:56] <PrimoTurbo> lasindi: You can't access safemode?
[11:56] <ridejib> are there any applications i can use to monitor for memory leaks?
[11:56] <Mez> LasseL, after release, ubuntu only release secuiry updates
[11:56] <PrimoTurbo> same error?
[11:56] <Seveas> imaek[away] , if you only want bandwith measurements: bwm
[11:56] <lasindi> PrimoTurbo, no the same thing happens.
[11:57] <pestilence> ridejib: electricfence?
[11:57] <pestilence> ridejib: valgrind?
[11:57] <PrimoTurbo> I see, often happens also
[11:57] <kemik> imaek[away] :  iftraf
[11:57] <imaek[away] > ok.
[11:57] <Mez> LasseL, the backports project solves that by releasing updates that arent neccesarily security updates
[11:57] <PrimoTurbo> I'm guessing some file or something got messed up for whatever reason
[11:57] <ridejib> pestilence: will these report the application causing the problem?
[11:57] <PrimoTurbo> make a mount on ubuntu
[11:57] <pestilence> ridejib: oh, i misunderstood you.  nevermind.
[11:57] <lasindi> brb
[11:57] <Landy> anyone noticed their laptop seem to run hotter under Linux?
[11:57] <PrimoTurbo> and get all important files u need
[11:57] <ridejib> pestilence: no problem
[11:58] <PrimoTurbo> and burn them
[11:58] <raven3x7> Mez, o"official" backports?
[11:58] <PrimoTurbo> do u have a digital camera?
[11:58] <ridejib> Landy: a little, but not anything dangerous
[11:58] <PrimoTurbo> or even a regular camera
[11:58] <ridejib> !bum
[11:58] <PrimoTurbo> or even video camera
[11:58] <ubotu> ridejib: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:58] <Mez> raven3x7, yes official
[11:58] <Mez> !backports
[11:58] <ubotu> from memory, backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[11:58] <LasseL> Seveas, but what is different from the backports a week ago and the official ones? (except the server change)
[11:58] <PrimoTurbo> anyway you can capture that error, because you can search google for it and chances are someone has had that issue a million times already
[11:59] <LasseL> a week ago they broke my firefox for several days and I was not a happy camper :)
[11:59] <PrimoTurbo> also how did you install ubuntu?
[11:59] <Mez> LasseL, the difference is the official ones are awknowledged by Ubuntu, and of higher quality
[11:59] <Mez> whereas the unofficial may cause breakages etc
[11:59] <lasindi> back
[11:59] <Landy> ridejib, so I wasn't imagining it then. My T23 runs fairly warm, getting some thinkpad tools to hopefully check its temp maybe
[11:59] <Seveas> s/may/will
[11:59] <PrimoTurbo> lasindi: Tell me exactly how u installed it, because I just did it myself and my windows xp works fine
[11:59] <LasseL> so it is not the same stuff with a new nametag ?
[11:59] <raven3x7> Mez cool
[12:00] <ericz> anyone know on average how long it takes for ubuntu install cd's to ship when you order them from shipit.ubuntulinux.org or whatever
[12:00] <Seveas> new nametag and better quality :)
[12:00] <Mez> LasseL, yes and no