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jsgotangcoBurgundavia: I agree with you wholeheartedly04:40
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jsgotangcohi04:59
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Madpilot?06:18
robitaille??06:18
robitaille:)06:18
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Madpilotanyone here?10:47
highvoltagei'm sure there is10:47
highvoltageit's sunday morning, so most ppl are probably asleep10:48
Madpilotyou know, I had no idea how late it was - almost 0200 here. heh...10:48
highvoltageheh. is that us western time?10:49
MadpilotPacific Daylight10:50
highvoltagewow. time is complicated in the usa.10:50
highvoltagein south africa we just have one time, and it stays the same. always.10:50
Madpilotperhaps - except that I'm in Canada... ;)10:51
MadpilotRSA doesn't use daylight savings?10:51
highvoltagenope.10:51
highvoltagewe don't really need it. we have enough daylight throughout the year :)10:51
Madpilotwe need to save it, this far north!10:52
highvoltagein the summer, the sun comes up at 6, sets at 20:00, in the winter, it comes up at 7:00, sets at 19:0010:52
highvoltageyeah10:52
Madpilotwinter, here: up @ 0800, down before 1700 at worst. summer, up before 0600 and down past 210010:53
Madpilot49 degrees North does that... ;)10:53
highvoltagei'm sure george bush will fund a project to change the virtual tilt of the earth :)10:54
Madpilothe's just dumb enough. Canadian politicians are (slightly) more intelligent...10:54
highvoltagetrue.10:54
Burgundaviahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary10:54
Burgundaviawhat should I do with it?10:55
highvoltageBurgundavia, Madpilot: are you related?10:56
Burgundaviahighvoltage, Madpilot is my old brother10:56
BurgundaviaI converted him to Ubuntu after his XP died10:56
highvoltagethat's cool.10:57
poningruhehe10:59
poningruhow old apart are you guys?10:59
Madpilotfour years10:59
poningruoh I thought it would be bigger diff,  Burgundavia highvoltage, Madpilot is my old brother11:00
Madpilotheh. Burgundavia can't type worth a d*mn - that should be "older"...11:00
poningruoh11:01
poningrugotcha11:01
poningrudoh should have realized that11:01
Burgundaviaya ya11:01
=== Madpilot predicts that Burgundavia's next post here will contain at least one typo
Burgundaviaasdflkjasdfhpoiasdf11:01
Madpilotdid you type that with your forehead?11:01
highvoltageqwerty! aaah!11:01
Burgundavianope11:02
Burgundaviadid it with me hands!11:02
poningrudvorak?11:02
poningruah11:02
highvoltageponingru: i use qwerty too, been wanting to switch for the longest time, but can't afford it.11:02
poningruhehe too true11:04
Burgundaviahuh? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnologyChoices11:05
Madpilotwhat's that page *for*?11:06
highvoltagehmmm.. good question. i can kinda see what they tried to do.11:07
highvoltagei wonder what "conforming programs" and non-conforming programs are.11:07
BurgundaviaI like the term "no useful content"11:07
Burgundaviait is so broad11:07
highvoltageoh, there it's gone :)11:08
Madpilothave you already killed that page?11:08
Burgundaviayes11:08
highvoltagei wish people would log on when they edit pages, at least you can contact them if you need to find out why they created it.11:08
Burgundaviathey must11:08
Burgundaviathe adsl stuff is the wiki auto importer11:08
highvoltagethat page was edited by an adsl-someting-something, was that a username?11:09
highvoltageaaaaah11:09
highvoltageimported from where?11:09
Burgundaviathe old wiki11:09
poningruquestion11:11
poningruhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenOffice2Beta11:11
poningruwhy is that like that?11:11
poningrushouldnt we just say just update when the rep updates11:12
MadpilotOO2 is in the repos anyway11:12
MadpilotI keep meaning to install it to try it out11:12
poningruits good11:13
poningruoh btw I am talking about that scritp11:13
poningrusigh script11:13
MadpilotI assume that script gets the very, very latest crack of OOo2, instead of whatever is in the repos?11:13
Burgundaviathe breezy repos have the newest crack11:14
Burgundaviajust needs a backport11:14
Burgundaviaalong with about a whole sh*tload of java11:14
Madpilothmmm. maybe just ditch the script in favour of info on adding the breezy repos to hoary?11:14
Burgundaviano11:15
Madpilotor should that all just go into BreakMyUbuntu?11:15
Burgundaviatell the person to use hoary-backports11:15
Burgundavias/tell the person/edit the page to say11:15
Madpilotthat's even simpler11:15
poningruyeah11:15
poningruthats what I was thinking of11:15
poningrudo we use user pages?11:16
Burgundaviawhat do you mean?11:16
poningrucause I just wanted to add articles to do list to my page11:16
poningrulike wikipedia has user pages11:16
poningruwhich allow a user to keep his/her own page11:16
Madpilotyou can subscribe to a page, i know11:16
poningruhmm11:17
Madpilotand your subscribed articles are listed on your User Prefs page11:17
highvoltagewhere would you download OOo2MenuItems.tar.gz? it doesn't say that in the howto.11:18
Burgundaviahoary backports is the way to go for that page11:19
Madpilothere's more info: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30866&page=1&pp=1011:19
Burgundaviaseb payne is that 16 year old I was telling you about, Madpilot 11:20
Madpilothere: http://www.evolutioncolt.com/mainweb/?q=node/1111:21
Madpilotthat's what the wiki page is based on I think - the Ubuntu forum link is dead11:22
poningruooh when did canonical change their website11:25
poningrupretty11:25
Burgundavialooks very similar to the ubuntu one, so I assume the same time11:30
poningrulooks different to me11:31
Burgundaviasame css, different colours11:32
poningruanywhere I can find the ubuntu history page?11:33
poningruah true11:33
Madpilotcss makes that sort of trick so *easy*, it's great11:33
poningruhehe so true11:34
rob^hey, what wiki package do we use?11:34
Burgundaviahistory page?11:34
Burgundaviarob^, moinmoin11:34
rob^Burgundavia, ah ok11:34
rob^thanks11:34
Madpilotjust added this: http://linuxcommand.org/  to the UserDocumentation page, right down at the bottom11:37
Madpilotwith "other resources"11:37
Madpilothmmm... Totem doesn't have a wiki page at all...11:40
Burgundaviano11:40
Madpilotlikewise XPDF, even if it does bite11:42
Burgundaviaxpdf is crap11:42
Burgundaviatalk about evince11:42
Burgundaviaand anyway, wikipages should probably be mostly tasked based11:42
Madpilothttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation  <-- there's a whole raft of links here to app-specific pages11:43
Burgundaviayes11:43
Madpilotbut many of them aren't the default apps anyway, AFAIK11:44
Burgundaviaindeed11:44
Burgundaviawe need to promote existing applications and soutions11:44
Burgundaviathe bittorrent page could use some love11:44
poningruhehe please dont decide on azureus for that11:46
MadpilotI know zip about BT, wouldn't know where to start11:46
Burgundaviapretty easy11:46
Burgundaviayou click on the link and it happens11:46
poningrurofl11:47
Madpilotfunny guy. I don't use FF, remember?11:47
Burgundaviawe need slightly more featureful application11:47
Burgundaviasorry, we don't support Opera11:47
Madpilotslightly more what?11:47
poningruMadpilot: what do you use?11:47
MadpilotOpera11:47
poningruwow11:47
Burgundaviacurrently, it is one link to one window11:47
poningruerhm sorry didnt mean anything by it11:47
Burgundaviawould be nice to bring it into one window11:47
MadpilotBurgundavia: I really don't know what you're talking about...11:48
Burgundaviabasically each bittorrent you have open is a seperate window and seperate app11:49
Burgundaviamakes it difficult to store stuff over a reboot, because you have to remember where you put it11:50
poningruthats true11:51
poningrulinux really doesnt have any good bt clients11:51
Madpilotthat's with GNOME torrents?11:52
poningruwell there is azureus11:52
BurgundaviaI saw a mockup that someone posted a while ago11:52
Burgundaviaazureus is waaay too many buttons11:52
poningrubut its pretty resource hogish11:52
poningruyeah11:52
poningruwhat I like is ABC11:52
poningrubut their linux release is limited to the 6 month old release11:52
Burgundaviaouch11:53
poningruits limited to just the good features11:53
poningruyeah11:53
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poningrumy sis using win loves it11:53
poningruI love it too11:53
poningrubut too bad I cant use it11:53
Burgundavianight all!11:54
poningrudo we have a basic glossary page?11:56
Madpilotno idea. if not, we need one.11:57
poningruyeah11:57
poningruhow long ago was this wiki started?11:57
Madpilotno idea there either11:57
Madpilotsearchig "Glossary" got me no hits except an italian page11:58
poningruhmm yeah11:58
poningrugaah I have to go run11:58
poningrutalk to you later dude11:58
Madpilotlater11:59
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Kinnisonhey burgey10:22
Burgundaviasalut Kinnison 10:26
=== Burgundavia is getting a lappy!
Kinnisonwooyay10:28
Burgundaviawhat about you? what is new in lp land10:28
=== Kinnison grins. Lots of specs written. Check out the LP wiki
Burgundaviacool10:35
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