=== Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [~poningru@pool-70-110-73-168.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ealden [~ealden@219.90.93.132] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [~yh728@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [~poningru@pool-70-110-73-168.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === segfault [segfault@core-dumped.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [~matt@81-178-92-192.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === uniq_ [charlie@3ffe:80ee:31fe:0:0:0:0:33] has joined #ubuntu-doc === segfault [segfault@core-dumped.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mvirkkil [~mvirkkil@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jdub [~jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === HrdwrBoB [~matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Nafallo [nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rwabel [~rwabel@gw.ptr-80-238-205-70.customer.ch.netstream.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === sladen [paul@80.1.73.116] has joined #ubuntu-doc === asw [~asw@mcb1013.mcb.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [~poningru@pool-70-110-73-168.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@info1-218.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:40] Burgundavia: I agree with you wholeheartedly === ealden [~ealden@219.90.93.132] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:59] hi === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:18] ? [06:18] ?? [06:18] :) === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [~Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [~yh728@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [~poningru@pool-68-238-172-133.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [~Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:47] anyone here? [10:47] i'm sure there is [10:48] it's sunday morning, so most ppl are probably asleep [10:48] you know, I had no idea how late it was - almost 0200 here. heh... [10:49] heh. is that us western time? [10:50] Pacific Daylight [10:50] wow. time is complicated in the usa. [10:50] in south africa we just have one time, and it stays the same. always. [10:51] perhaps - except that I'm in Canada... ;) [10:51] RSA doesn't use daylight savings? [10:51] nope. [10:51] we don't really need it. we have enough daylight throughout the year :) [10:52] we need to save it, this far north! [10:52] in the summer, the sun comes up at 6, sets at 20:00, in the winter, it comes up at 7:00, sets at 19:00 [10:52] yeah [10:53] winter, here: up @ 0800, down before 1700 at worst. summer, up before 0600 and down past 2100 [10:53] 49 degrees North does that... ;) [10:54] i'm sure george bush will fund a project to change the virtual tilt of the earth :) [10:54] he's just dumb enough. Canadian politicians are (slightly) more intelligent... [10:54] true. [10:54] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary [10:55] what should I do with it? [10:56] Burgundavia, Madpilot: are you related? [10:56] highvoltage, Madpilot is my old brother [10:56] I converted him to Ubuntu after his XP died [10:57] that's cool. [10:59] hehe [10:59] how old apart are you guys? [10:59] four years [11:00] oh I thought it would be bigger diff, Burgundavia highvoltage, Madpilot is my old brother [11:00] heh. Burgundavia can't type worth a d*mn - that should be "older"... [11:01] oh [11:01] gotcha [11:01] doh should have realized that [11:01] ya ya === Madpilot predicts that Burgundavia's next post here will contain at least one typo [11:01] asdflkjasdfhpoiasdf [11:01] did you type that with your forehead? [11:01] qwerty! aaah! [11:02] nope [11:02] did it with me hands! [11:02] dvorak? [11:02] ah [11:02] poningru: i use qwerty too, been wanting to switch for the longest time, but can't afford it. [11:04] hehe too true [11:05] huh? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnologyChoices [11:06] what's that page *for*? [11:07] hmmm.. good question. i can kinda see what they tried to do. [11:07] i wonder what "conforming programs" and non-conforming programs are. [11:07] I like the term "no useful content" [11:07] it is so broad [11:08] oh, there it's gone :) [11:08] have you already killed that page? [11:08] yes [11:08] i wish people would log on when they edit pages, at least you can contact them if you need to find out why they created it. [11:08] they must [11:08] the adsl stuff is the wiki auto importer [11:09] that page was edited by an adsl-someting-something, was that a username? [11:09] aaaaah [11:09] imported from where? [11:09] the old wiki [11:11] question [11:11] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenOffice2Beta [11:11] why is that like that? [11:12] shouldnt we just say just update when the rep updates [11:12] OO2 is in the repos anyway [11:12] I keep meaning to install it to try it out [11:13] its good [11:13] oh btw I am talking about that scritp [11:13] sigh script [11:13] I assume that script gets the very, very latest crack of OOo2, instead of whatever is in the repos? [11:14] the breezy repos have the newest crack [11:14] just needs a backport [11:14] along with about a whole sh*tload of java [11:14] hmmm. maybe just ditch the script in favour of info on adding the breezy repos to hoary? [11:15] no [11:15] or should that all just go into BreakMyUbuntu? [11:15] tell the person to use hoary-backports [11:15] s/tell the person/edit the page to say [11:15] that's even simpler [11:15] yeah [11:15] thats what I was thinking of [11:16] do we use user pages? [11:16] what do you mean? [11:16] cause I just wanted to add articles to do list to my page [11:16] like wikipedia has user pages [11:16] which allow a user to keep his/her own page [11:16] you can subscribe to a page, i know [11:17] hmm [11:17] and your subscribed articles are listed on your User Prefs page [11:18] where would you download OOo2MenuItems.tar.gz? it doesn't say that in the howto. [11:19] hoary backports is the way to go for that page [11:19] here's more info: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30866&page=1&pp=10 [11:20] seb payne is that 16 year old I was telling you about, Madpilot [11:21] here: http://www.evolutioncolt.com/mainweb/?q=node/11 [11:22] that's what the wiki page is based on I think - the Ubuntu forum link is dead [11:25] ooh when did canonical change their website [11:25] pretty [11:30] looks very similar to the ubuntu one, so I assume the same time [11:31] looks different to me [11:32] same css, different colours [11:33] anywhere I can find the ubuntu history page? [11:33] ah true [11:33] css makes that sort of trick so *easy*, it's great [11:34] hehe so true [11:34] hey, what wiki package do we use? [11:34] history page? [11:34] rob^, moinmoin [11:34] Burgundavia, ah ok [11:34] thanks [11:37] just added this: http://linuxcommand.org/ to the UserDocumentation page, right down at the bottom [11:37] with "other resources" [11:40] hmmm... Totem doesn't have a wiki page at all... [11:40] no [11:42] likewise XPDF, even if it does bite [11:42] xpdf is crap [11:42] talk about evince [11:42] and anyway, wikipages should probably be mostly tasked based [11:43] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation <-- there's a whole raft of links here to app-specific pages [11:43] yes [11:44] but many of them aren't the default apps anyway, AFAIK [11:44] indeed [11:44] we need to promote existing applications and soutions [11:44] the bittorrent page could use some love [11:46] hehe please dont decide on azureus for that [11:46] I know zip about BT, wouldn't know where to start [11:46] pretty easy [11:46] you click on the link and it happens [11:47] rofl [11:47] funny guy. I don't use FF, remember? [11:47] we need slightly more featureful application [11:47] sorry, we don't support Opera [11:47] slightly more what? [11:47] Madpilot: what do you use? [11:47] Opera [11:47] wow [11:47] currently, it is one link to one window [11:47] erhm sorry didnt mean anything by it [11:47] would be nice to bring it into one window [11:48] Burgundavia: I really don't know what you're talking about... [11:49] basically each bittorrent you have open is a seperate window and seperate app [11:50] makes it difficult to store stuff over a reboot, because you have to remember where you put it [11:51] thats true [11:51] linux really doesnt have any good bt clients [11:52] that's with GNOME torrents? [11:52] well there is azureus [11:52] I saw a mockup that someone posted a while ago [11:52] azureus is waaay too many buttons [11:52] but its pretty resource hogish [11:52] yeah [11:52] what I like is ABC [11:52] but their linux release is limited to the 6 month old release [11:53] ouch [11:53] its limited to just the good features [11:53] yeah === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:53] my sis using win loves it [11:53] I love it too [11:53] but too bad I cant use it [11:54] night all! [11:56] do we have a basic glossary page? [11:57] no idea. if not, we need one. [11:57] yeah [11:57] how long ago was this wiki started? [11:57] no idea there either [11:58] searchig "Glossary" got me no hits except an italian page [11:58] hmm yeah [11:58] gaah I have to go run [11:58] talk to you later dude [11:59] later === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ealden [~ealden@219.90.93.132] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@info1-137.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangc1 [~jgotangco@info1-137.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangc1 [~jgotangco@info1-137.info.com.ph] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === ealden [~ealden@219.90.93.132] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [~Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kinnison [~dsilvers@haddenham.pepperfish.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:22] hey burgey [10:26] salut Kinnison === Burgundavia is getting a lappy! [10:28] wooyay [10:28] what about you? what is new in lp land === Kinnison grins. Lots of specs written. Check out the LP wiki [10:35] cool === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveaz [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc