| dilys | Merge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.5: new build (patch-68) | 12:40 |
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| dilys | Merge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar--devo--1.5: --modified renamed to --modifying. rbrowse --show-sealed changed to --hide-sealed (patch-54: Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr) | 12:41 |
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| dilys | New Malone bug 1627 filed on Malone by Daniel Robitaille: Bug report displays maintainer's name twice | 06:52 |
| dilys | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1627 | 06:52 |
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| ddaa | lifeless: https://macquarie.warthogs.hbd.com/roomba/status/synaptic-main/events/88/log | 11:53 |
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| dilys | Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial] roketsync does not hardcode local location (patch-2193: david.allouche@canonical.com) | 12:21 |
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| lifeless | ddaa: ola | 01:59 |
| lifeless | ddaa: whats up ? | 01:59 |
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| j^ | hi ddaa, lifeless just said you could help me with adding a cvs repos to arch.ubuntu.com | 02:01 |
| carlos | morning | 02:03 |
| kiko | ahoy pixies | 02:03 |
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| lifeless | j^: ddaa should be around sometime soon. I've got to go into a day long meeting now though, so I won't be abnle to help much ;0. | 02:08 |
| lifeless | ddaa - ping | 02:08 |
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| ddaa | lifeless: pong, was having lunch. | 02:18 |
| ddaa | was just pointing you at synaptic's import saying something that could be translated as "lifeless is a lazy bastard that spends too much time playing doom, so this is Not Implemented." | 02:20 |
| ddaa | of course, I do not not support the first part of the statement, but the second part still calls for you intervention | 02:20 |
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| lifeless | ddaa: that should be simple for you to impolement, it looks like a copy from a branch - i.e.a merge into the mainline. it /might/ be appropriate to use the renamed file change, I haven't looked at the code right now, just guessing from the log | 02:25 |
| ddaa | ATM I'd rather focus on untangling the merge situation of cscvs and get the pending changes through the review process | 02:26 |
| lifeless | ddaa: so - can you help j^ ? | 02:40 |
| ddaa | hu... ah, right | 02:40 |
| ddaa | j^: yes I can | 02:41 |
| j^ | ddaa ok, so what would be needed to get liboil to arch.ubuntu.com? | 02:42 |
| === ddaa checks about liboil, maybe it's there already | ||
| j^ | if so cvs moved to cvs.freedesktop.org/liboil | 02:43 |
| ddaa | mh, does not appear to be there | 02:43 |
| ddaa | so, you need | 02:43 |
| ddaa | 1. an account on launchpad.ubuntu.com | 02:44 |
| j^ | done | 02:44 |
| ddaa | 2. create a liboil _product_ | 02:44 |
| ddaa | and fill in the details properly | 02:45 |
| j^ | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/products/+new ? | 02:45 |
| ddaa | you're on the right track, yes | 02:45 |
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| ddaa | hi debonzi | 02:46 |
| debonzi | ddaa, hi | 02:46 |
| debonzi | ddaa, how is it going? | 02:47 |
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| ddaa | feeling like I'm the only one working here, everybody from this chan appears to be at Async | 02:47 |
| debonzi | heh | 02:48 |
| elmo | gar, the description field in malone doesn't respect formatting | 02:49 |
| elmo | HATE | 02:49 |
| ddaa | somebody gotta teach malone about ReST... | 02:50 |
| SteveA | ReST sucks | 02:50 |
| SteveA | especially for bugtrackers | 02:50 |
| ddaa | markdown? | 02:50 |
| bob2 | docbook for data entry! | 02:51 |
| elmo | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1628 | 02:51 |
| elmo | I don't mean formatting formatting | 02:51 |
| elmo | I mean things like, carriage returns :P | 02:51 |
| SteveA | i can probably find you an exaple of GvR writing in a bug tracker "ReST sucks for bug trackers!" after becoming very frustrated with trying to use it. | 02:51 |
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| bob2 | a ton of product descriptions are broken due to that | 02:52 |
| j^ | ddaa now im listed as the maintainer, which i am not | 02:52 |
| ddaa | SteveA: I admit ReST is tricky, but bob2 is right. Something wiki-like is needed thorough launchpad. | 02:52 |
| bob2 | j^: that's fine, you can change it later | 02:52 |
| bob2 | I'm the maintainer of probably a hundred things in launchpad, most of which I know nothing about | 02:53 |
| elmo | guys, I don't actually want ReST or anything else, I want it to just work; I'm fairly sure bugzilla does, f.e. | 02:53 |
| ddaa | j^: the labelling is misleading, it's actually only the launchpad product owner, there's a plan to make the distinction with the actual upstream and package maintainer | 02:53 |
| bob2 | yes, even just respecting newlines would be a good start | 02:53 |
| j^ | so whats the next step? | 02:54 |
| ddaa | j^: now create a "main" branch, and sets the CVS details (edit source) and FTP details (edit series) | 02:55 |
| ddaa | (assuming that liboil releases from the MAIN branch and does not have fancy stable/experimental release, which it probably does not have since it's < 1.0) | 02:56 |
| ddaa | j^: not sure if I was clear,.. | 02:56 |
| SteveA | elmo: please file a bug on the lack of preserving CRs | 02:57 |
| SteveA | elmo: there is an implemented spec on this, which has some heuristics on breaking lines and respecting CRs | 02:58 |
| SteveA | elmo: so, if it isn't working for you, it is very likely to be a bug that we can fix. | 02:58 |
| ddaa | j^: btw, nice description (we have manually review them before doing the import) | 02:59 |
| elmo | SteveA: ok, thanks | 03:01 |
| ddaa | j^: the main branch should have name='main' (the presence of this branch is going to become mandatory in the near future). I'll handle the renaming. | 03:01 |
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| ddaa | j^: the HEAD is not a CVS branch, it's a "magic tag" that points at the end of the MAIN branch. (I'll fix it too) | 03:02 |
| j^ | ddaa thanks, was not sure about HEAD vs main vs trunk | 03:02 |
| ddaa | it's all a bit confusing ATM | 03:03 |
| ddaa | tell me when you are done | 03:03 |
| j^ | im done if you fix the two issues with main | 03:04 |
| ddaa | it's still missing ftp details. Click "edit series details" to edit them. | 03:04 |
| ddaa | (that's not strictly needed for cvs imports, but that saves us the trouble) | 03:05 |
| j^ | ok added | 03:06 |
| ddaa | Good job, | 03:07 |
| j^ | good guide | 03:07 |
| ddaa | Now, grab the attention of the importd operator, so he will make sure that gets run as quickly as possible. | 03:07 |
| ddaa | The importd operator is ddaa and he's usually in the #launchpad channel ;) | 03:07 |
| j^ | done | 03:08 |
| ddaa | oxay, it's running, if you are lucky and that CVS repo is not evil, that should be out there within a couple of hours. | 03:09 |
| j^ | nice | 03:09 |
| j^ | and thanks for your help | 03:10 |
| ddaa | I'll update you about success or failure. | 03:10 |
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| dilys | New Malone bug 1629 filed on Malone by James Troup: malone doesn't handle CRs in Description properly | 03:52 |
| dilys | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1629 | 03:52 |
| ddaa | j^: the import went well, but the publishing stage has been queued behind the daily syncs for other repos, so it's going to be a few hours before it will be online | 04:10 |
| j^ | ddaa thats great, will have a look at it tomorrow | 04:11 |
| ddaa | that will be <http://arch.ubuntu.com/liboil@bazaar.ubuntu.com/liboil--MAIN--0> the archive already exists, but it's still empty | 04:11 |
| lifeless | ddaa: please use http://bazaar.ubuntu.com. arch.ubuntu.com is deprecated | 04:12 |
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| ddaa | ack | 04:12 |
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| ddaa | that will be <http://bazaar.ubuntu.com/liboil@bazaar.ubuntu.com/liboil--MAIN--0> the archive already exists, but it's still empty | 04:13 |
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| stub | lifeless: I sent in a tag request for the next production release | 04:36 |
| salgado | stub, have you merged that zope patch already? | 04:40 |
| stub | salgado: No - I wanted you to see if it works before I merged it. I havn't tested it at all ;) | 04:41 |
| salgado | stub, I already tested it and mailed you saying it worked fine. didn't you get my mail? | 04:42 |
| stub | No, I did not receive that email. | 04:42 |
| salgado | weird | 04:43 |
| salgado | just bounced it, anyway | 04:43 |
| stub | lifeless: Can you please merge stuart.bishop@canonical.com/zope--setperms--3.0 into rocketfuel@canonical.com/zope--test--3.0 | 04:43 |
| ddaa | j^: here it is | 04:48 |
| dilys | Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [rs=sabdfl] Implement sorting for the Rosetta translation listing [for a template] , and fix status to sort correctly; also fix stats portlet wording (patch-2194: christian.reis@canonical.com) | 04:49 |
| === Kinnison thinks of the poor people in Sao Carlos as he gazes out at the copa cabana | ||
| === carlos thinks on the poor burnt Kinnison | ||
| carlos | and hides | 04:57 |
| Kinnison | carlos: my arms are fine, more forehead is almost better | 04:57 |
| ddaa | Kinnison: do you mean that poverty is a shame, or do you mean it about Sao Carlos? | 04:58 |
| Kinnison | carlos: I got up at, oooh, 9.45 | 04:58 |
| carlos | Kinnison, ;-) | 04:58 |
| Kinnison | carlos: had a leisurely breakfast overlooking the beach | 04:58 |
| ddaa | the upsides of being at the right end of capitalism | 05:01 |
| Kinnison | ddaa: aye. How's your passport? | 05:03 |
| ddaa | Far away. | 05:06 |
| ddaa | Not yet came around applying for a new one. | 05:06 |
| Kinnison | Heh | 05:06 |
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| dilys | New Malone bug 1630 filed on The Launchpad by Daniel Robitaille: The launchpad people search page should be easier to find | 05:20 |
| dilys | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1630 | 05:20 |
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| ddaa | somebody in sao carlos please stick "david.allouche@canonical.com--2004/cscvs--native-cvs--0--patch-27" in the PendingReviews page, with summary "More native-cvs protocol work." | 06:05 |
| salgado | ddaa, I'm not sure if we should be editting the PendingReviews page this week. I remember SteveA saying that we will need to handle reviews via email this week | 06:06 |
| === ddaa complies | ||
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| dilys | Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: SMASH bug page fixes into rocketfuel [r=stevea] (patch-2195: mark.shuttleworth@canonical.com) | 06:43 |
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| === ..[topic/#launchpad:stub] : Discussion with Launchpad users and developers. || https://launchpad.net/ || Includes Rosetta and Malone. | ||
| sivang | stub: man, I bet this domain cost a bunch :) | 07:26 |
| sivang | stub: or was it pre-registred for the project :) ? | 07:26 |
| stub | I don't know the details | 07:27 |
| sivang | stub: rehi ho btw :) | 07:27 |
| ddaa | I head the south african mafia was involved in the buyout ;) | 07:27 |
| sivang | ddaa: I could imagine, ROFL | 07:27 |
| === ddaa wonders whether he could callback between spyce and pyblosxom | ||
| sivang | ddaa: how big will launchpad become? I already have no grasp of how big it is, and how granular it can be :) | 07:31 |
| sivang | ddaa: (it was easy at least if to judge by the interface at the times of mataro :-) ) | 07:31 |
| ddaa | sivang: if you've been at Matar, you've seen sabdfl, don't you? | 07:32 |
| ddaa | How big do you think he thinks? | 07:32 |
| ddaa | The plan: is big = all of free software, fine = every revision, translation, distribution package, bug | 07:35 |
| ddaa | I guess that's more the "ideal" than the plan :) | 07:35 |
| sivang | yeah, I know that | 07:38 |
| ddaa | then, what was the question? | 07:38 |
| sivang | well :) | 07:38 |
| sivang | I didn't realize it will become so complex to even browse all of the options | 07:39 |
| sivang | :) | 07:39 |
| sivang | and to really grasp it's capabilities | 07:39 |
| sivang | I bet someone is working on a document (rather; a paper) about all of the aspects of launchapd, right? | 07:39 |
| ddaa | not really | 07:39 |
| ddaa | there's the wiki, where we supposedly write specs before implementing | 07:40 |
| ddaa | I'm not sure what writing such a "paper" would buy | 07:40 |
| sivang | well, true it wouldn't have a real value other then enabling someone outside to understand all of launchpad's capabilities and possibly to suggest for ways where he can exploit it's capabilities | 07:42 |
| ddaa | I guess the vision is more something along the lines of the "hive mind genius", give geeks a bunch of open-ended cool toys to play with, and watch whether they come up with something we did not think of. That is certainly something important in sabdfl's vision nowadays. | 07:44 |
| ddaa | Then, how crackful an idea that is, it's not my place to judge... | 07:44 |
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| sivang | ddaa: that's actually cool, given I would like to be one of those geeks :) | 08:14 |
| sivang | ddaa: btw, how shell all of this come togther with baz, super mirror and other freinds? I would really like to understand how they orchestrate together | 08:15 |
| dilys | Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: fixes to email interface. [r=jamesh] (patch-2196: bjorn.tillenius@canonical.com) | 08:37 |
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| mpt | bradb: http://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/Montreal2005?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=2-search-results-list.jpg | 09:04 |
| philiKON | hi carlos | 09:06 |
| philiKON | i'm back from dinner | 09:06 |
| philiKON | so, how do i create a team for the zope developers? | 09:07 |
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| carlos | philiKON, hi | 09:08 |
| philiKON | hi there :) | 09:08 |
| carlos | philiKON, https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/people/+newteam | 09:09 |
| philiKON | cool, thanks | 09:09 |
| philiKON | carlos, as for contact email address, can i specify a mailman list address? | 09:10 |
| carlos | philiKON, yeah, if you leave it empty all members will get the emails | 09:11 |
| philiKON | ah, that's ok too | 09:11 |
| carlos | so use what fits better to your requirements | 09:11 |
| philiKON | emails to members is probably best | 09:11 |
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| philiKON | carlos, ok, added the zope3-dev group | 09:14 |
| philiKON | carlos, what's next? make us admins of the zope package? upload POT files? | 09:14 |
| carlos | philiKON, I will handle the initial POT upload, about the being admins of the zope package, I need to check how to change it, but don't worry about that I will do it | 09:16 |
| philiKON | ok, thanks | 09:16 |
| philiKON | i'm just new to the system, so i have no idea what needs to be done etc. | 09:16 |
| philiKON | carlos, if you could drop me an email when everything is set up so that people can begin with translation, that'd be great | 09:16 |
| carlos | salgado, did the owner change spec landed? | 09:16 |
| philiKON | my email addr is philikon@philikon.de | 09:17 |
| carlos | philiKON, count with that | 09:17 |
| philiKON | great, thanks! | 09:17 |
| carlos | I hope it will be done this week | 09:17 |
| philiKON | that'd be cool, then we can translations in for Zope 3.1 final | 09:17 |
| salgado | carlos, yep, but right now only launchpad admins can reassign any teams | 09:17 |
| philiKON | carlos, by the way, how easy is it then to get translations as a PO file out of rosetta? | 09:18 |
| carlos | morgs, salgado, does it apply to products too? | 09:19 |
| salgado | carlos, no, this is only for teams | 09:19 |
| salgado | carlos, I'll fix this soon, just need to sort out a special permission with Steve | 09:20 |
| carlos | philiKON, https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/products/ddtp-ubuntu/+series/ubuntu/+pots/ddtp-ubuntu-main/+export | 09:20 |
| philiKON | ah, cool | 09:20 |
| philiKON | sorry, i'm new to this; maybe there is some sort of end user docs? | 09:21 |
| carlos | philiKON, not too much info atm, we are working on it, so feel free to ask whatever you need | 09:21 |
| philiKON | ok, thanks | 09:22 |
| carlos | philiKON, all info we have about Rosetta is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rosetta | 09:22 |
| carlos | salgado, ok | 09:22 |
| dilys | Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial] Production config updates (patch-2197: stuart.bishop@canonical.com) | 09:26 |
| dilys | New Malone bug 1631 filed on Bazaar by Matthieu Moy: update doesn't consider the revision number when using replay strategy | 09:33 |
| dilys | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1631 | 09:33 |
| dilys | Merge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.5: new build (patch-69) | 09:42 |
| dilys | Merge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar--devo--1.5: bugfix: consider LIMIT argument with --versions, changed regexp option names (patch-55: Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr) | 09:43 |
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| dilys | New Malone bug 1632 filed on Bazaar by Ross Burton: Insane and useless merging | 09:50 |
| dilys | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1632 | 09:50 |
| SteveA | ddaa: ping | 10:06 |
| ddaa | SteveA: pong | 10:15 |
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| SteveA | ddaa: stub and mark have had problems with the latest baz | 10:29 |
| ddaa | what kind of problems? | 10:30 |
| === stub emailed lifeless and downgraded | ||
| === stub bounces the email to ddaa | ||
| ddaa | mh... never seen that before... | 10:33 |
| ddaa | I guess you guys have defined hook scripts? | 10:33 |
| ddaa | (like mirror-on-commit, etc.) I do not have any | 10:33 |
| ddaa | if that's the case maybe it would work better after renaming the hook script out the way | 10:34 |
| stub | I'll try it in a tick without the mirror-on-commit script. | 10:37 |
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| dilys | Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial] Only i386 for Gina on staging (patch-2198: stuart.bishop@canonical.com) | 10:48 |
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| dilys | Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial] English language should not be showed by default (patch-2199: carlos.perello@canonical.com) | 11:15 |
| elmo | librarian is down | 11:55 |
| elmo | stub: known? | 11:55 |
| stub | elmo: Yup. Production rollout | 11:55 |
| stub | elmo: Just restarted Librarian now | 11:55 |
| elmo | ok | 11:55 |
| stub | Should all be healthy, and Pound should notice the restarted servers in the next 30 seconds... | 11:59 |
| elmo | btw, do you want me to redirect launchpad.u.c too? | 11:59 |
| elmo | or are we keeping that as a 4th (?!) instance for a while? | 11:59 |
| stub | I guess we have tested launchpad.net enough now ;) Might as well redirect launchpad.ubuntu.com to launchpad.net | 12:00 |
| stub | But the emails will still flow on the old domain for a few days, unless this causes you grief in which case I can reconfigure it now. | 12:01 |
| === stub remembers to reenable the email processing cronscript | ||
| elmo | uh, hang on - email? | 12:02 |
| dilys | Merge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.5: new build (patch-70) | 12:02 |
| elmo | no one mentioned email :P | 12:02 |
| stub | foo@bugs.ubuntu.com | 12:02 |
| stub | Not that the gateway has been advertised or anything. Bjorn might cry if we disable it for a while, but that is about it. | 12:02 |
| elmo | -> foo@bugs.launchpad.net ? | 12:03 |
| dilys | Merge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar--devo--1.5: [Fixes #1631] added a --upto option to replay, use it when necessary (patch-56: Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr) | 12:03 |
| stub | Yup. One of the things I was going to put off until later after we had ironed out any bugs in the web systems being moved. | 12:04 |
| stub | elmo: Let me know if you change the email stuff - I think I need to update the config files when that happens. | 12:05 |
| elmo | I'm not going to change it, so much as make bugs.launchpad.net work | 12:06 |
| elmo | ATM it will insta-bounce | 12:06 |
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