[12:08] it also looks like all the gnome live cds that gnome is going to be handing out will be able to turn into Ubuntu installs [12:08] Burgundavia: really? cool! [12:11] whoah, the font size issue _WAS_ gtk bug! [12:12] Keybuk, fint size? [12:12] lol === Amaranth [~travis@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-93-96.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:21] HiddenWolf: preview release has been same day in the past (it'll be a day or two after now though) [12:21] jdub: yeah, i figured i was being stupid. [12:21] HiddenWolf: then a month of stabilisation and bug fixing until our final release (which ends up being roughly the gnome point release) [12:22] jdub: thanks [12:23] anytime [12:24] except shower time [12:24] which is now [12:27] i managed to tear my finger tip open this morning [12:27] right middle [12:27] very annoying for the typing [12:27] type with pencils like the fly did. 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[02:10] I know I do. [02:10] Oh well, no -v option to dpkg-genchanges just means a short and uninformative email to -changes, could be worse. [02:10] yeah, it bit me once when I didn't have ubuntu defined, so it uploaded to ftp-master. D'oh! [02:11] I remove the default from dupload.conf intentionally to prevent that. [02:11] So I MUST specify --to debian or --to ubuntu to upload. [02:11] infinity: my dput is two-fold, and involves an scp to chinstrap first, so I have a few seconds. [02:11] (And since I upload to both, that's kinda important) [02:12] Why the two-hop approach?.. What have you got against anonymous ftp uploads? [02:12] (Or just the fear of broken connections leading to having to upload the whole mess again, because the ubuntu queue doesn't keep files around like the debian one does?) [02:13] is mpeg_encode in any ubuntu package? === Aegir [Richard@129.96.149.89] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:14] hey guys, mdz has asked me to try out his latest ltsp stuff in breezy. But first, I need to transform this hoary box to be breezy. any pointers to how to setup the apt/sources file? [02:15] jammcq: :%s/hoary/breezy/ :-) [02:15] that's it ? [02:15] jammcq: you going to oscon as well as lwe? [02:15] yeah [02:15] nope [02:15] not this year :( [02:15] then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade -u [02:15] ahr [02:15] i was at ols, and just can't be gone that much [02:15] well, i will see you at lwe anyway :) [02:16] yeah, looking forward to it [02:16] jdub: you in portland now ? [02:16] jammcq : Save a copy of /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfont*, s/hoary/breezy/ in sources.list, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade, copy those two binaries to /usr/bin (and /usr/X11R6/bin, some stuff still looks there), install xkbutils, pat self on back. === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:daniels] : Ubuntu Development | #ubuntu for support and general discussion | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DeveloperResources | If you have unexpectedly lost editbugs privileges, talk to mdz/ogra/kiko | Colony CD 2 released | X is a lot less broken [02:16] infinity: no, no, no [02:16] jammcq: don't listen to infinity. just make sure you install xkbutils, xrdb, xprop, xauth and xinit when you're done. [02:16] infinity: i fixed mkhost* yesterday [02:16] daniels : Oh, mkfont* came back while I was away from the keyboard? [02:16] jammcq: sydney, surry hills office ;) [02:17] jdub: isn't oscon starting like now ? [02:17] sort of [02:17] tuesday evening is the proper kick off [02:17] ah [02:17] mon/tues are tutorials and stuff [02:18] it seems like there are entirely too many cons these days ;) [02:18] plus, being in the future, i get to leave on monday and arrive on monday [02:18] daniels : Dude, I see no mkfont binaries anywhere, except the ones I copied from hoary. [02:18] why isn't ucbmpeg in powepc? [02:18] it seems like Jeff is a full-time convention attender these days ;) [02:18] not as bad as mako... yet [02:19] daniels: has xfonts made it through yet? [02:20] lexhider: *cough* no [02:20] infinity: yeah, well, give it an hour [02:20] are things going to be more or less tame by the next colony release? [02:21] That's the plan. [02:21] daniels : xfonts-core is FTBFS. [02:21] infinity: hence 'yeah, well, give it an hour' [02:21] daniels : [02:22] robertj_: kamion can't really release a colony if nothing works. === LeeJunFan [junfan@s64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:41] daniels: you around? [02:41] n [02:42] nm, even [02:42] woo, smeg 0.8 might actually see the light of day === robertj [robertj@66-188-77-153.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:42] that is nice [02:42] i've got all of the new framework stuff setup again, i just need to copy chunks of code over to it [02:43] and then add the new features again [02:46] any console-data literate folks around? === Keybuk [~scott@rjo-lmn-svr.kerntec.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:53] Keybuk: you really here, or bouncing? [02:53] really here [02:53] what's up? [02:54] daniels: ping [03:03] Amaranth: did you get anywhere with the firefox bug I pointed out? [03:03] mxpxpod: Haven't looked at it at all, honestly. [03:03] I know absolutely nothing about firefox. [03:04] heh, that's ok [03:04] mxpxpod: pong === HrdwrBoB [~matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:04] daniels: I've got a strange bug with firefox [03:04] mxpxpod: what's up? [03:04] daniels: http://www.reigndropsfall.net/images/firefox-font-problem.png [03:04] hello which package contain xmodmap on breezy? [03:05] sebest: none of them. it's a sign to tell you to use xkb. [03:06] mxpxpod: ... the problem is that your fonts are huge? [03:06] daniels: just in firefox... [03:06] daniels: it's like firefox as an application doesn't respect either the dpi or the font setting of gnome [03:07] wait... X is alot less broken? what still needs fixing? [03:07] OddAbe19: mkfontdir [03:07] daniels: i think i'm using xkb, but my shift keys doesn't work [03:07] ahhh [03:07] yay [03:07] OddAbe19: the thing that still needs fixing is the error you had [03:08] sebest: then your XKB is broken [03:08] thanks check check [03:08] daniels: i'm using a fr beyboard, and for the moment i use xmodmap to make my shift key working again :) [03:08] thanks [03:08] Guys, let's stop bugging daniels about keyboards and X not starting. [03:08] OddAbe19: if you've upgraded through breezy, it still bites === robertj kind of wishes there was a breezy-colony archive [03:08] sebest: sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/xkeyboard-config_0.5-3_all.deb [03:08] sebest: and install xkbutils [03:09] OddAbe19: but upgrades from hoary should be fine, unless you've customised your config [03:09] daniels, yeah a few nights ago i felt adventourous and dist-upgraded from hoary... [03:09] o_O [03:09] upgrading from hoary is fixed? [03:09] what changes do i have to make to a customized xorg.conf? [03:09] now [03:09] OddAbe19: s#usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts#usr/share/X11/fonts#g [03:09] OddAbe19: you have to update your keyboard config to use the kbd driver [03:10] Amaranth: yeah [03:10] daniels: any clue as to what's up with firefox? [03:10] is that in apt-listchanges/ === Amaranth is completely upgraded in breezy and X isn't biting [03:10] mxpxpod: no idea, sorry; don't have anything to do with that [03:10] daniels, i did change that to kbd, but i only go gibberish with the command you posted, what was that? [03:10] daniels: who would? [03:10] robertj: no, but it should probably be in NEWS.Debian [03:10] mxpxpod: talk to whoever touched firefox last [03:10] OddAbe19: change /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts to /usr/share/X11/fonts [03:10] mxpxpod: i don't think we really have a firefox maintainer at the moment, tbh [03:10] in xorg [03:10] cool [03:11] thanks [03:11] for all the font paths in xorg.conf now? [03:11] yeah [03:12] thanks [03:12] bbl [03:12] gotta fix this [03:12] you rock daniels and the whole team [03:12] :-D [03:12] np [03:12] mmm, fist-sized fonts in firefox [03:12] couldn't he have upgraded and used dpkg-reconfigure? [03:13] <|QuaD-> daniels.... to get xorg working, i should change all my font paths to /usr/share/X11/fonts? [03:14] fwiw, if you hard-set the firefox DPI setting to 96dpi, it draws things properly [03:14] it's a temporary hack, but it works [03:14] mmm, firefox lockup [03:14] |QuaD-: yes [03:15] <|QuaD-> daniels: thanks [03:15] daniels: you aren't packaging xmodmap anymore? [03:17] if not, what exactly is the equiv of xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 7 3 2 6 4 5" [03:17] daniels: a bunch of entirely random keys have stopped working -- your bug, or a gnome bug? [03:17] keybuk what is your keymap? [03:17] xorg/pc105/gb [03:17] things like F12, and the volume keys and stuff [03:18] I _think_ it's a gnome bug, because the accelerator widget still catches them === OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:20] Keybuk: if xev shows them with the right keycodes and symbol names, it's not my problem [03:20] daniels, works... great... kinda... but it works. Wheel on mouse doesn't move up and down but X works, great job [03:20] TerminX: i'll package it later but I don't consider it massively important [03:20] daniels: which package is xev in? ;) [03:20] Keybuk: it isn't, as I discovered last night [03:20] (this is biting me too) [03:20] wonder if gnome is doing something very silly like using that [03:21] no way [03:21] daniels: alright.. you mentioned sending notice of how to unscrew X on Breezy to ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-users, is there a timeframe for that or are you still sorting out X issues? === sebest [~chatzilla@sebest.ovibes.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:22] TerminX: as soon as I upload -44, which I'm still tweaking [03:22] daniels: did you pick a hell of a week to quit drinking coffee or something? [03:22] Keybuk: hrm? [03:22] daniels: it seems that changing the keyboard driver is not always enough, i had o change the XkbLayout from "fr-latin9" to "fr" [03:22] daniels: alright. [03:22] i stopped with caffeine at about the start of april [03:22] so yeah, pretty much bang on 4 months ago === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:23] sebest: right. some complex XKB configurations will break, as we switched to xkeyboard-config. [03:23] daniels: so xev doesn't think F12 is F12 ... [03:23] sebest: fr(latin9) might work [03:23] Keybuk: what does it think it is? [03:23] KeymapNotify event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x0, [03:23] keys: 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 [03:23] 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 [03:23] is all you get [03:23] <|QuaD-> daniels: i just changed my fonts to that, i am still getting the same font error [03:23] (no KeyPress/KeyRelease) [03:24] Keybuk: errrrrr [03:24] daniels: oki, i think that a lot of people that see keys "dissappearing" in bug report, is because of thing like this one [03:24] that's XKB sucking, then. does setxkbmap -rules xorg -layout gb -model pc105, a) help, or b) throw an error? [03:24] sebest: no, it's because upgrades going through hoary completely smashed xkb. [03:25] daniels: c) neither [03:26] daniels: btw fr works perfectly no need for fr(latin9) :) good job! [03:26] F11, F12, "Mute", "Volume Down", "Volume Up", "Lock Screen" and "Presentation" don't work [03:26] <|QuaD-> daniels: all my entries in my xorg.conf for fonts look similar to this "FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"" [03:26] <|QuaD-> is that right? [03:26] Keybuk: hold on, volume up, volume down, presentation and lock screen aren't in the default UK keymap, of course [03:27] Keybuk: nor is mute [03:27] |QuaD-: yeah [03:27] right, but they should at least generate key events [03:27] they used to generate 0x[random two digits] [03:27] here's a weird one for you... [03:27] <|QuaD-> daniels: any idea why it wouldn't work? [03:27] F12 works if you hold down a bucky bit at the same time [03:28] Shift-F12 gives me Shift_L + F12 [03:29] |Quad what is your problem? [03:29] hmmm... yeah, so far, only thing, scroll wheel goes left right instead of up down [03:29] i'll file a bug report [03:29] <|QuaD-> sebest: could not open default font 'fixed'; [03:30] <|QuaD-> then there are other lines that follow about fonts not being configured right [03:30] <|QuaD-> Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list! [03:30] Keybuk: hmmm. works for me. you haven't got something stupid like f-lock on your keyboard, right ... ? [03:30] daniels: first thing I checked [03:30] Keybuk: keycodes for f11 and f12 are 95 and 96 [03:30] Keybuk: that's really bong [03:31] daniels : Meh, libfontenc got NEWed to universe, not main. xfonts-core will stay FTBFS for a while. [03:31] Keybuk: could you please clag me the output of setxkbmap -print? [03:31] infinity: bugger [03:32] elmo: libfontenc -> main please (it was originally in main, from xorg) [03:32] xkb_keymap { [03:32] xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)" }; [03:32] xkb_types { include "complete" }; [03:32] xkb_compat { include "complete" }; [03:32] xkb_symbols { include "pc(pc105)+gb+compose(rctrl)" }; [03:32] xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc105)" }; [03:32] }; [03:32] ...dude, where is pc105 defined? [03:32] Keybuk: /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc [03:33] Keybuk: it includes pc104, which includes pc(basic), which has the F* definitions [03:33] right [03:33] those are just type="CTRL+ALT" though? [03:33] . [03:33] Keybuk: right, that's fine [03:34] Ctrl+Alt-F12 does nothing [03:34] the only difference between our maps is that I have compose(ralt) and ctrl(nocaps) also [03:34] weird [03:34] Keybuk: you did --force-confmiss xkeyboard-config, right? [03:34] to? [03:35] I have xkeyboard-config installed [03:35] Keybuk: right, but xlibs's postinst was sort of deleting a lot of xkeyboard-config's conffiles [03:35] I noticed that [03:35] Keybuk: so sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/xkeyboard-config_0.5-3_all.deb [03:38] nope, no luck [03:40] will have a bit more of a debug later [03:40] could still be gtk bug [03:40] the fonts thing was, so I'm not ruling it out [03:45] daniels: no sign of the 'xprop' package you recommended that I install [03:46] jammcq: oh, it's waiting for ftpmaster intervention; don't worry about it [03:46] k, thanks [03:48] somebody just posted a bug voting idea on the IdeaPool (to replace the page itself) [03:48] <|QuaD-> daniels: how do i get mkfontdir? [03:49] |QuaD-: install xfonts-utils 6.8.2.1-2 when it hits the archive [03:50] <|QuaD-> daniels: ok, i hope that solves my problems [03:50] <|QuaD-> do you know when that will be? === ikuyaLoqu [~ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:51] |QuaD-: when the UK wakes up [03:52] |QuaD-: it's waiting on manual intervention [03:52] <|QuaD-> daniels: alright, thanks for all your help [03:52] np [03:53] daniels: ooh, we get mkfont* and update-font-dir back? [03:53] what about adding this to the channel topic : " Over 5 lines? Pastebin: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste" ? [03:53] when the UK wakes up? they just went to bed :/ [03:54] Amaranth: update-fonts-dir never went away [03:54] err [03:54] then i wrote over the copy in breezy :P [03:55] it's been in xfonts-utils for ever [03:55] but in /usr/bin rather than /usr/X11R6/bin [03:56] err, it was in /usr/sbin/ in hoary === rcliii [~rcliii@cpe-65-26-158-102.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:00] oh, cool [04:09] daniels: sorry to bother you, but the upgrade to breezy is done, but the keyboard doesn't work in X [04:10] vim ftbfs... sigh [04:11] jammcq: have you got xkbutils installed? [04:11] yepper === Aegir [~Richard@129.96.149.89] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:12] jammcq: got xkeyboard-config installed? [04:12] yep [04:14] jammcq: any output from setxkbmap -rules xorg -model pc104 -layout us? [04:15] well, I get 'Cannot open display 'default display', cuz X isn't running [04:19] daniels: btw, this is on a laptop, fresh install of hoary, then the upgrade to breezy. nothing would be lost, if I had to start over [04:20] daniels: libcaca is it's fault, not xorg's, right? [04:20] checking for X11/XKBlib.h... no [04:20] configure: error: cannot find X11 development files [04:22] lamont: libxkbfile-dev, IIRC [04:22] woot [04:22] yeah [04:23] jammcq: if the server's not starting, I'd need the logfile. if it's a custom config, you need to change /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts to /usr/share/X11/fonts in xorg.conf. [04:24] nothing custom, other than I changed the Fontpath to point to my xfs, cuz mkfontdir wasn't there [04:24] jammcq: that would be "custom" [04:24] --> changed xconfig fie [04:24] file [04:24] :) [04:24] point taken [04:24] md5sum can't tell _what_ you changed. [04:24] ah [04:25] dpkg-reconfigure should fix it [04:25] which pkg ? [04:25] xserver-xorg [04:25] it'll remake the xorg.conf file [04:26] but then it'll fail becuase of the fonts missing [04:27] http://www.McQuil.com/Xorg.0.log [04:39] daniels: XOpenDisplay lives where? [04:40] nm [04:41] configure:5201: checking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11 [04:41] configure:5231: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -DOPTIMISE_SLANG_PALETTE=1 conftest.c -lX11 -lXt -L >&5 [04:41] how very, um, interesting === lamont decides that libcaca is, well, caca [04:44] hehe [04:44] lamont: in libX11 [04:44] Wasn't libcaca on MOTUToMerge? [04:44] yeah - it includes that, but it gets kinda lost looking for libs... [04:44] well, it's in _main_ [04:45] That's strange [04:45] jammcq: so your server is actually started ... why can't you run setxkbmap? [04:46] the keyboard isn't responding [04:46] via gdm, I can't login. I turned off gdm, and run 'startx', and keyboard does nothing [04:47] ah, ok [04:47] try changing your driver to Driver "kbd" === OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:48] it already is 'kbd' [04:54] jammcq: so your keyboard is totally dead ... hm [04:54] well, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace works [04:54] interesting [04:54] yeah [04:54] first I've heard of something like that [04:54] if you can SSH in and run setxkbmap -rules xorg -model pc104 -layout us, against it, does that help [04:54] i'll try that now [04:55] lamont: oh, I bet I know what the libcaca issue is [04:56] lamont: it's including -L$xlibdir unconditionally [04:56] but $xlibdir will be blank if they're in /usr/lib [05:02] daniels: ok, no output [05:02] I had to add '-ac' to the serverargs in startx [05:03] jammcq: has your keyboard situation improved now? [05:03] daniels: sounds about right [05:03] nope [05:03] daniels: in any case, #13119 [05:03] jammcq: if not, two things to try -- first one, paste me the output of setxkbmap -print in /msg; secondly, try sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/xkeyboard-config_0.5-3_all.deb [05:03] lamont: yeah, I saw it go past [05:03] k === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [~scott@rjo-lmn-svr.kerntec.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:34] tseng: new packages for universe are OK with me for most of the remainder of the release cycle [05:40] mdz: hey, i'm installing ltsp, based on your howto [05:41] jammcq: thanks for taking the time to play with it [05:42] i shoulda done it sooner, but you know how it is [05:43] very much so === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Aegir^ [Richard@129.96.149.89] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Aegir^^ [~Richard@C1490089.wl149.flinders.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lexhider [~lexhider@220.235.207.113] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sfvt [~sfvt@pool-64-222-117-63.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:54] mdz: got an error: [05:54] Errors were encountered while processing: [05:54] /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_6.8.2-43_all.deb [05:54] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [05:55] \sh: My hero! === ealden [~ealden@219.90.93.132] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:58] <\sh> hey bddebian [05:59] jammcq: that's a bug for daniels [06:00] daniels was already extremely helpful getting my hoary box upgraded to breezy [06:01] jammcq: he'll need a full transcript of the upgrade in order to analyze it; it might be a bug he has already fixed in the version he'll upload tomorrow [06:01] yeah, in this case it is [06:01] so, to re-start this tomorrow, do I just re-run the client-build ? [06:01] (i often don't see things until this window bings purple) [06:39] morning [06:40] jammcq: yo :) [06:40] jammcq: i did add fuse to the kernel on your request. i hope the 2.3.0 version is ok with you [06:41] scary fuse goodness [06:41] sladen: it's going upstream anyway [06:42] fabbione: excellent === Xof [~mas01cr@158.223.59.22] has joined #ubuntu-devel === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:29] Good morning [07:29] morning [07:29] hey pitti [07:30] morning [07:30] morning all [07:45] is there any correlation between package names and launchpad product names? [07:45] sadly, not in general [07:45] source package names mostly match with lp names [07:46] but there's no foolproof way to get to the launchpad page for a package? [07:46] from a source package, yes [07:46] perhaps it's linked from soyuz [07:46] we had to go back and match source package <-> lp names after the fact [07:47] ah, i see [07:47] presumably someone made use of that mass of data ;) [07:48] i've been poking around trying to see what data i can use [07:49] but sadly, the only useful i can find i can't actually use because of a gtkmozembed bug [07:49] useful info, that is [07:51] niran: working on gnome-app-install 2.0? :) [07:51] Amaranth, heh, yeah [07:51] Amaranth, i think it's pretty useful at this point === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-153-158.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:59] Hey JaneW [08:00] pitti: Hi Martin, What's up? [08:00] Hi sivang [08:03] pitti: do you know how I can see changes of the last update to a baz archive? (baz annotate seems to give me everything) [08:03] sivang: get-changeset and show-changeset? [08:03] pitti: k, thanks [08:03] sivang: or just a quick overview with logs? [08:04] pitti: how do I produce the logs? [08:04] sivang: baz logs -s [08:04] pitti: cool, thanks :) [08:06] niran: You're doing that in Python? [08:06] Amaranth, yeah [08:06] niran: Cool. [08:07] niran: Try not to make it as nasty as http://rafb.net/paste/results/PqVbpC62.html :) === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:08] pitti: have you seen jamesh lately? [08:09] no, I didn't [08:10] Amaranth, haha, i have a bit of cleanup to do myself. random unclear array indices will be heaven for anyone else who tries to touch this code [08:11] hehe, i don't have lists, i have gtk.ListStores :) [08:11] <\sh> re === Tifa [~alucard@cpc6-hem14-6-0-cust87.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:19] hi pitti [08:21] morning JaneW [08:21] hey JaneW === marilize [~marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:22] hello highvolt1ge and sivang [08:22] <\sh> morning JaneW [08:22] hi \sh [08:22] hey \sh , hungry this morning ? :) [08:24] <\sh> sivang: hehe :) yes, but I have to chocolate bread rolls on my desk :) and a nice cup of hot coffee :) === pitti [~pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:25] hi === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Abandonando"] === Tifa [~alucard@cpc6-hem14-6-0-cust87.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdthood [~jdthood@x095.decis.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:59] \sh: lol, I don't want to start describing what I have here, as Burgundavia may get hungry at us :) === tiglionabbit [~nick@c-67-171-159-205.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:03] <\sh> sivang: lol..yes :) but Burgundavia has to provide me with some new .desktop files ,-) so he should be hungry for work not for food ;) === pvanhoof [~pvanhoof@cvs.maia-scientific.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Tifa [~alucard@cpc6-hem14-6-0-cust87.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlospc [~carlospc@36.Red-217-125-73.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:10] what is this about hunger? I could use some food right now [09:11] Burgundavia: you know the rules: no fixed bugs, no breakfast [09:11] right === Burgundavia predicts no breakfasts for a long time [09:12] I would fix a lot of bugs, if I could have my upload rights back *sigh* === chmj [~chmj@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:13] Treenaks, why did you get your upload privs yanked? [09:14] Burgundavia: no idea.. [09:14] ah [09:14] Burgundavia: I mailed elmo last week, but got no reply [09:14]