=== Amaranth [~travis@amaranth.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [~aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-93-96.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] gn8 everbody === dnakata [~kvirc@alyson.feriteninjas.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moyogo [~moyogo@HSE-Ottawa-ppp160072.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sebest [~chatzilla@sebest.ovibes.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CarlFK [~CarlK@c-67-163-43-70.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:55] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/x11/gtranscode - "transcode Pakage not available" - should something like this be reported somewhere? [01:57] already reported in malone iirc [01:57] you can compile transcode manually [01:58] it may be in hoary-extras of ubp, too [01:58] https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/586 [01:58] thanks === majic [~majic@nc-69-69-52-5.sta.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kyncani [~kyncani@lns-vlq-25-ren-82-254-155-78.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] okay, did apt-cdrom and added my cdrom to apt. Trying to do "pbuilder create --distribution hoary" to set up the chroot env to build packages however pbuilder is still complaining that it cannot find the cdrom. Anyone have this problem? The docs on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto doesn't describe this problem [02:01] I have the cdrom inserted and mounted and it's in my /apt/sources.list, when I do run "pbuilder create --distribution hoary" it errors out when trying to find stuff that is on the cdrom. [02:01] hmm? [02:02] you must not have edited your sources.list [02:02] I tried removing the cdrom line in /apt/sources.list and it still complained [02:03] I presume you mean the sources.list for your pbuilder [02:03] I have the transcode source (I have been building tc from source for years) - what does it take to make a .deb? (guessing there is a URL I need to read) === bddebian [~bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:03] apt-get build-dep transcode [02:03] crimsun - um.... after ./configure && make? [02:04] no, before [02:04] majic: did you edit ~/.pbuilderrc ? [02:04] yes [02:04] majic: you don't need to pass --distribution [02:05] I was following along on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto [02:05] maybe that's not the best tutorial [02:05] Worked For Me (tm) [02:05] :-) [02:06] majic: did it create the base.tar.gz successfully? [02:07] not yet. I was editing the wrong sources list. I presume I need to remove the cdrom entry. [02:07] yes [02:07] I'm rerunning pbuilder now [02:08] crimsun: You know much about UniverseUnmetDeps? [02:08] bddebian: I haven't looked at it lately [02:08] (sec) [02:08] I mean, if I "fix" something, should I put it on REVU or just make a note on that page? [02:09] not being an MOTU that is [02:10] oh, if you're not a MOTU I presume it needs to go through REVU [02:10] \sh probably will clarify [02:17] I appreciate the help crimsun, this time it worked. I'm sure if I had a few more days experience using Ubuntu I would have had enough common sense to have removed that line myself. [02:17] I spun my wheels for over an hour doing the same crap over and over with the same error =) [02:17] crimsun: OK, thx [02:18] majic: oh don't worry, I got tripped up by 99update-notifier for a bit [02:18] after a while it becomes monotonous setting up pbuilders :) [02:19] building tc - autoreconf -f -i "aclocal: configure.in: 26: macro `AM_PROG_AS' not found in library" [02:19] did you libtoolize? [02:19] um.. is that a verb? ;) [02:20] I'm going to attempt to fix the Ruby package to the latest stable release [1.8.2] , I'm probably biting off more than I can chew but we'll see. [02:20] CarlFK: it's both a verb and a command (ugh) [02:21] my tc installs have been on RH and gentoo - first time on ubuntu [02:21] CarlFK: did you check if transcode is in hoary-extras? [02:21] not to mention I never quite know what I am doing ;) [02:22] will save you quite a bit of time if it is in that repo [02:22] indeed. I don't see it in http://packages.ubuntu.com - where is extras? [02:24] crimsun: Are you taking care of the xfce stuff on MOTUToMerge? [02:24] bddebian: Jani and I are, yep [02:25] bddebian: those will all be moot after the merge from os-works [02:25] Ah OK [02:33] using deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted - I get transcode: Depends: libavifile-0.7c102 (>= 1:0.7.38.20030710-1.2) but it is not installable [02:33] it that fixable, or is it build from source time? [02:34] I don't know if hoary-extras is built from breezy [02:35] im working on a hoary box === gradzac [bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] ah, it's in hoary/universe [02:36] check apt-cache policy libavifile-0.7c102 [02:37] whoops, this is a breezy box... doh [02:37] they are both desktop boxes - I got confused ;) [02:43] libavifile-0.7c102: Installed: (none) Candidate: (none) Version table: [02:43] you don't appear to have hoary/universe enabled on that install [02:44] I can do that? [02:44] on a breezy box? [02:44] I wouldn't. [02:45] this is kinda a play box, so as long as it doesn't catch fire I am not to worried about it getting screwed up [02:46] Breezy has libavifile-0.7 in universe [02:46] it looks like you'll need to pull the source for transcode from hoary-extras and tweak debian/control, then compile it yourself. You'll need libavifile-0.7-dev [02:47] why hoary-extras and not cvs (which I allready have) [02:47] I know: [02:48] i need debian/control, which is in the hoary-extras package, right? [02:49] It's in all debian/Ubuntu packages :-) [02:49] hoary-extras doesn't have source [02:49] im getting dizzy [02:49] CarlFK: you don't _have_ to use hoary-extras. I simply suggested that in case it was compiled. Looks like you'll have to compile it manually regardless. [02:50] gradzac: You're from Omaha? [02:50] ok, which brings us back to libtoolize, which I ran, and still get "aclocal: configure.in: 26: macro `AM_PROG_AS' not found in library" === StoneTable [~stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] do you have autoconf installed? [02:51] yes [02:52] what version of automake? [02:57] automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6 [02:58] afternoon [02:58] afternoon, ajmitch [02:59] CarlFK: I don't know offhand if you'll need to upgrade automake versions (~1.9) [03:00] yup - tc readme: To do this you need _recent_ versions of autoconf (>= 2.59), automake (>= 1.8) and libtool (>= 1.5) === jaldhar [~jaldhar@pcp09354467pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] Heya ajmitch === majic [~majic@nc-69-69-52-5.sta.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:13] ah, the ver is in the package name... automake1.8 [03:13] indeed [03:15] and I have to apt-get remove autoconf too. [03:15] er [03:15] automake === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] anyone know if someone is working on updating the version of Glade in ubuntu?? [03:54] to what? [03:55] the latest release is 2.10.0, which we have [03:55] ahh...my bad, there is a glade-2 package [03:58] ah, the ver is in the package name... automake1.8 ;) [03:59] it should just know [04:00] err === rcliii [~rcliii@cpe-65-26-158-102.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] how does apt automagically know what you're compiling and what version of automake it needs to give you the correct version? [04:02] automagic. [04:02] im just kidding [04:02] Amaranth: alternatives [04:02] there should be an autohell package that installs all of them [04:03] and then a script that tries each version untill something works [04:03] autohell_0.1 is NEW [04:03] that way I would have 0.0 chance of knowing what is going on. === crimsun kids [04:03] as opposed to this "I think I got it" feeling that leads to hours disapearing [04:20] Amaranth: yes, I live near Omaha [04:20] gradzac: Cool, my grandparents live there. [04:20] CarlFK: automake, autoconf....all give me headaches [04:21] Amaranth: hopefully you are some place that is not as hot/humid as it is here [04:21] gradzac: haha, Sioux City, Iowa [04:21] so yeah, it's just as hot and humid [04:22] yup :( [04:23] well...hi from 100mi north! :) [04:27] Amaranth: heh...didn't know they had the internet in Iowa :) [04:28] *smack* [04:33] Carrier Pigeon Internet Protocol [04:34] thats a messy protocol....it drops packets all over the place [04:34] heh [04:34] heh [04:34] hahaha [04:34] that just made my day [04:38] according to http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt that is an audit trail. [04:38] oh yeah...I forgot there was an RFC for that :) [04:38] there is a way larger version of this somewhere [04:39] or maybe not... === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio- [~tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:56] hello \sh [05:57] \sh, if I feed you .desktop files, will you do the package editing stuff (I don't have time to play with learning that right now) [05:58] \sh: I'm just reverting the c++ lib rename on libsdl-sound1.2 if you don't mind :) [05:58] <\sh> Burgundavia: sure.. [05:58] <\sh> ajmitch: thx [05:58] <\sh> *argl* [05:58] as it's one of a number that export a C interface [05:58] annoying, I know [05:58] <\sh> ajmitch: it was written on the list ,-) [05:58] yeah, but we've got a different name than debian now [05:58] \sh: Got any suggestions of things for me to look at next? [05:59] <\sh> bddebian: did u get any mail from katie concerning pmock? === ajmitch will have to find out how many others have this problem :) [05:59] <\sh> ajmitch: when it's not a c++ lib, I think it's correct to revert it [05:59] \sh: No, I don't think so [06:00] \sh: well, it's a C++ lib [06:00] <\sh> bddebian: please check, when your email addr is whitelisted by elmo [06:00] but doesn't export the symbols as that [06:00] thanks to our friend extern "C" [06:00] Aren't only MOTUs whitelisted? [06:00] <\sh> eeks === bddebian is still confused [06:00] <\sh> bddebian: no everybody who contribute to universe should be whitelisted [06:01] Do I contribute? ;-) [06:01] <\sh> bddebian: because only whitelisted email addresses will get replies from katie if the package is accepted or not, even when it's a sponsored upload [06:01] <\sh> bddebian: yes [06:02] <\sh> bddebian: you can ask stoopid questions, dude :) [06:02] <\sh> ajmitch: then revert it pls :) [06:02] \sh: doing so, it was already noted as that in bugzilla :) [06:03] since the debian maintainer questioned the transition [06:04] <\sh> bddebian: I'm just curious cause I've uploaded pmock with your changelog entry, and I don't receive any mail from katie, cause it would send you the mail if it's accepted or not, and I didn't receive any mail from breezy-changes [06:05] <\sh> Burgundavia: u r refering to my mail on ubuntu-devel (couple of minutes ago?) [06:05] \sh: Ah, OK. Am I to request whitelisting from elmo? [06:05] \sh, yes [06:06] <\sh> bddebian: wiki.ubuntu.com/Uploads [06:06] <\sh> Burgundavia: I thought so..I should shut the fck up early in the morning ;) [06:06] \sh, I beat you. Why not to blog when very tired --> http://www.advogato.org/person/Burgundavia/diary.html?start=21 [06:08] <\sh> Burgundavia: oh I blogged as well this morning...giving a nice trackback to Jorges Plaxo article ;) [06:08] gah [06:08] thanks for reminding me that I haven't wasted enough time reading planets today :) === ajmitch goes & reads blogs [06:09] ouch [06:09] <\sh> funny ideas I have in the early morning hours...I'm mental ill I think totally paranoid [06:09] that plaxo stuff is evil. My attitude towards non-free stuff is gradually hardening [06:10] <\sh> ajmitch: lol [06:10] \sh: It says maintainers should request whitelisting?? [06:10] <\sh> bddebian: yes you're as well a maintainer...cause u r contributing with your name and email address.. [06:11] <\sh> only keyring stuff is for approved motus [06:11] yay, new monopod release [06:11] You guys are damn confusing :-) === ajmitch will have to bug tseng [06:12] <\sh> as I said, I have mad cow desease *lol* [06:12] <\sh> ok...last cigarette and then shower and rushing to work [06:13] ok \sh :) [06:13] mmm, cigarette... [06:16] <\sh> bddebian: But u don't want to get rich? creating a case against the tobacco industry or something like that? ;) [06:17] Hell no. I take responsibility for my own actions [06:22] <\sh> bddebian: good american boy *rotfl* [06:23] hmmm [06:27] <\sh> bddebian: I was just making a joke about those people, who have cancer and were creating cases against philip morris ,-) "Hey, I just smoke 60 years of my life...i didn't know that it can kill me" [06:28] Aye [06:28] <\sh> "and now, I'm just dead, but u r at fault, u evil phillip morris" [06:28] \sh: So if I start looking at unmet deps again and I can "fix" one, where do I put it? REVU? [06:28] <\sh> bddebian: no..put it on the wiki page [06:28] <\sh> with your and stuff..provide at least a debdiff somewhere..if you need webspace, ask me pls :) [06:28] \sh: Does anyone look at that? ;-P [06:29] <\sh> bddebian: what do u think? *blink* [06:30] no, we spend all our time here talking :) [06:31] <\sh> ajmitch: not me...I'm sitting half naked in front of my laptop and I wanted to go and have a shower..but anyways...I will go later to work ,-) nobodies rushing me and I'm not on the run [06:32] heh [06:33] time for me to write some more scripts tonight, comparing library names in debian & ubuntu :) [06:33] somebody asking for a gnome-power-manager backport [06:33] Ack [06:34] <\sh> jesus... [06:34] I think we'll revert any c++ unneeded transitions, and rebuild packages that depend on them [06:34] painful, but less pain than doing it later [06:34] ajmitch: Well look at libgdal1 :-) [06:35] <\sh> whats with libgdal? [06:35] <\sh> whats with libgdal1? [06:35] I don't see any libgdal1 [06:35] Dunno but grass depends on it and it libgdal1c2 now :) [06:35] <\sh> yes right [06:35] ah there we go.. === bddebian ++ ;-) [06:36] <\sh> bddebian: so recompile [06:36] <\sh> gras [06:36] <\sh> s [06:36] bddebian: probably just one of the main apps that need rebuilt, unless you're sure that it's a C interface [06:36] s/main/many/ [06:36] \sh: Not if ajmitch is going to rename it :-) [06:36] <\sh> bddebian: no..he's not renaming it [06:36] ajmitch: I haven't looked at it that close yet [06:37] bddebian: I'm only going to revert renames on those libs that didn't need renamed [06:37] doing otherwise would be stupid :) [06:37] Heh [06:37] and would cause \sh to hunt me down [06:37] <\sh> hehe === ajmitch can't wait to get a semi-decent speed for DSL [06:38] <\sh> bddebian: before u start with unmetdeps..you should read [06:38] <\sh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyToolchainTransition [06:38] <\sh> and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CxxLibraryList [06:39] <\sh> most of the apps on unmetdeps have unmetdeps cause they need some rebuild love cause of the cxx transition [06:39] rebuilds are mostly done by those who can upload [06:39] <\sh> but u have to check as well the changelogs...cause doko rebuild some already [06:39] since it's only a changelog entry in most cases [06:39] I find it easiest to look on my gmail account [06:39] <\sh> and a buildX to the version [06:39] nice & simple to search breezy-changes there ;) [06:40] <\sh> I'm not allowed anymore to use gmail in germany..cause of shitty trademarks of a german idiot...who prevent google of spreading gmail to germany ,-) [06:41] <\sh> s/of/from/ [06:41] ouch [06:42] hasn't someone been to his house & 'visited' him? [06:42] <\sh> ajmitch: problem is..he's not living in germany, but on some island...he knows why ,-) [06:42] <\sh> bloody stupid rich child with no brain [06:43] yeah [06:44] bddebian: good news [06:45] gdal looks like it might be another C interfaced lib :) === ajmitch just noticed that packages.qa.debian.org has entries for 'Patch from ubuntu' down the side [06:46] <\sh> ok...gdal.h is c callable [06:47] yes, as well as a number of other headers [06:47] I haven't done any exhaustive review of the headers that get installed or the library symbols [06:47] <\sh> I hate this [06:48] <\sh> all the work for nothing...but anyways..false positives [06:48] it's ok.. [06:48] most of the work that was done was very useful === bddebian will just sit on his hands then :-) === bddebian is now known as chillywilly-jr [06:50] <\sh> ok...have to rush now...shower, leaving for office [06:50] Later \sh, I'm leaving for bed :-) [06:50] <\sh> cu later [06:50] bye [06:50] Gnight folks [06:50] <\sh> bddebian: have a good night :) [06:50] Thx [06:50] <\sh> later ajmitch [07:35] I really should install ccache [08:11] <\sh> re [08:11] hey \sh [08:12] welcome back :) === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === TMM [~hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carlospc [~carlospc@36.Red-217-125-73.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [~poningru@pool-70-110-66-70.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko__ [~doko___@dsl-084-059-080-150.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Treenaks watches robitaille do lots of bug things [10:23] Malone needs so much love... [10:23] Treenaks, does malone spit out to a mailing list? [10:24] Burgundavia: no, it sends mail cc: everyone [10:24] ah [10:24] for all the MOTU stuff [10:25] I have been assigning universe packages to motu...so a lot of cc emails have been going around. Sorry about the spam. [10:25] be glad you are not still subscribed to the wiki [10:25] been spamming those people as well [10:25] robitaille: no problem... malone needs a special header to filter on thouguh [10:25] though === Danten [~danten@h53n10c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-motu [10:27] Treenaks: the "from" header seems to always come from xxxx@bugs.launchpad.ubuntu.com [10:27] at least it comes from a decent email now [10:27] robitaille: yes, but I hate the From: header :) [10:27] before it use to come from no-reply, which made sorting impossible [10:28] but I'm now going to bed. So I'm done for the night :) [10:31] Burgundavia: only dholbach & I are crazy enough to be subscribed to the whole wiki, right? [10:31] ajmitch, robitaille was [10:31] ah [10:31] ajmitch, you are going to get about 300 more emails in the next few days [10:32] malone does have the X-Generated-By: Launchpad (canonical.com) [10:32] I can handle it :) [10:32] ajmitch: yes, but I want malone mail to be different from other launchpad mail :) [10:32] Treenaks, if you don't like their email handling, bitch about it [10:32] Treenaks: heh, I don't get any other launchpad mail :) [10:32] Burgundavia: what do you think I'm doing? :P [10:32] file a bug in malone about it [10:32] Treenaks: what other lp mail do you see? [10:33] ajmitch: uh.. not much really :) [10:33] ajmitch: not yet anyway... === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@info12-93.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spafbnerf [~al@vpn-gw.dctr.sa.sysfusion.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:00] HURROAW [11:00] erm. [11:00] i want to package games, for ubuntu... whats the process to get them included in universe? :) [11:01] spafbnerf: the preferred way is get them into debian first [11:01] but otherwise, read wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU [11:13] new packages get put up for review, we take a look at them when we can === herzi [~herzi@d023086.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:32] good night all [11:34] night Amaranth === opi [~emil@oppeln-bronikowski.int.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:04] coolio, thx chaps... 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[04:39] there isn't a motu mail list or news group? [04:39] no. [04:39] ubuntu-devel [04:39] k === majic [~majic@nc-69-69-52-5.sta.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs/586 [04:47] how do I add info? [04:47] or shoudl I post to -devel and cc bigsmoke [04:52] CarlFK: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/586 then click on "add a comment" === terrex [~terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:53] thanks [04:54] actually it is "New comment on this bug".... [04:54] i figured that out ;) [04:56] now that I got the transcode souce to compile, how do I make a .deb? [05:00] CarlFK: if you are going to work on #586, maybe the bug should be assigned to you :) === robitaille has been assigning dozen of Malone bug in the last few hours to try to clean things up [05:01] sure... sign me up === infinito [~infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:02] or do I sign me up? [05:07] CarlFK: it would be great if you could attach an .debdiff with the modifications you did to the sourcepackage. at least try to describe what parts you had to change [05:09] no changes [05:09] CarlFK: #586 is now yours :) [05:09] oh boy... [05:10] so this deb thing... crimson lead me to belive it was "easy" and then left ;) === ogra [~ogra@p5089F6B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:11] CarlFK: I'm currently reading over the docs on how to build packages: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ there is alot of information to digest and it doesn't look all that easy from a n00b perspective... [05:12] crimsun!!! === bddebian [~bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:12] Howdy [05:13] bddebian: hello [05:13] Hello majic [05:14] majic - thanks for the link - reading it now [05:14] CarlFK: I got spoiled using Gentoo where there are about a bazillion developers and shit gets fixed before you even realize it was broke... [05:15] so as far as building packages I'm a complete n00b [05:15] but I want to get into working on stuff for Ubuntu [05:15] ditto, ditto [05:16] Heresy [05:16] :-) [05:16] I'd like to help fix the Ruby package, I got the src and started looking over it but currently don't know where to begin to help out [05:16] bug # 12613 [05:17] the ruby package looks quite complex from my initial observation lots of patches and stuff. Can't figure out why they aren't just using the standard source package for 1.8.2 instead of a beta with a bunch of patches [05:18] is there a list of the packages I need to isntall? [05:18] CarlFK: For what? [05:18] without the comments, somehting I can cut/paste after an apt-get command [05:18] CarlFK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources , I'm using pbuilder === JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] ogra: Who is responsible for the UniverseUnmetDeps wiki page? [05:26] note for anyone with admin access to MOTU's launchpad team page (https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/people/motu), there is a typo in the description on that page ("oneas" instead of "ones") [05:27] bddebian: everyone [05:27] tseng: What I mean is, who can make sure that the list is updated/correct ? I.E. who generated the list? [05:27] probably dholbach [05:27] Ah, OK [05:27] but you can make sure it is updated and correct [05:28] tseng: I'm not sure how he generated it, that's part of why I was asking :-) I wonder if he used "apt-cache unmet" ?? [05:28] i gues [05:28] with some awk and stuff [05:29] Aye. That's my problem. My regexp-fu, awk-fu, etc is severely lacking so I'm not sure the best way to rip out the "suggest" broken deps vs. the real broken deps :_) [05:30] apt-cache unmet | grep -v Suggests: | awk {'print $2'} [05:30] you mean this? [05:31] daniel should put the commands he runs at the top of the file [05:31] for consistancy [05:31] tseng: I hate you :-) === bddebian feels st00pid as always.. :-( [05:36] bddebian: sorry. [05:37] http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/shellsrptg/ [05:37] if you have time for a book, this one looks really good [05:37] tseng: I'm kidding, I appreciate it. THere is sooo much I need to learn. :'-( [05:38] grep -v = show things that dont match the next arg [05:38] awk is dead easy [05:38] print $2 = print the second column [05:40] I actually knew the grep -v part but I am totally clueless wrt awk :-) === majic [~majic@nc-69-69-52-5.sta.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [~magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [~mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:48] Heya Mez === bddebian is leary to start on UniverseUnmetDeps again.. [05:49] hey bddebian === bddebian2 [~bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:02] hrmpf [06:02] i couldn't sign on to REVU [06:02] DanielN: did you upload any package? what is your email you used for uploading packages? [06:03] uploading? i haven't any uploading privileges [06:03] ah [06:03] you mean uploading to revu [06:03] i tried with my wiki account [06:04] DanielN: revu is not connected to the launchpad, I use my own userdatabase ;) [06:04] ok [06:05] then i can order an account? :) [06:05] Which reminds me, I still haven't gotten a confirmation on my signed CoC?? [06:05] DanielN: you give me your keyid, I add you to the keyring, you upload a package, bang, you have an account ,) [06:05] ok just a minute [06:06] siretart: that reminds me that you wanted to review my gnomeradio package ;) [06:07] Mo42: sorry, not today :( [06:07] siretart, arghs.. which one is the key-id again? [06:07] siretart: no problem... === comadreja [~comadreja@comadreja.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:10] btw: is there a way for a non-motu to help with UniverseUnmetDeps? [06:11] siretart, B8F706B7 could this be possible? [06:11] DanielN: http://pgp.surfnet.nl:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&fingerprint=on&search=0xB8F706B7 [06:11] ok [06:12] DanielN: done, you may upload now [06:12] thanks siretart :) [06:13] Mo42, yes, make debdiffs and send them to a MOTU ro review and upload [06:15] okay, thanks... i will have a look at the list... [06:17] seems that the list is a bit out of date... [06:17] kile is on that list but i am using it on breezy/amd64 ;) === GheRivero [~ghe@81.172.94.172] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:19] same with gxine... [06:19] Mo42: It is out of date. Use: "apt-cache unmet | grep -v Suggests: | awk {'print $2'}" (with thanks to tseng :-) ) [06:21] okay, thanks === bddebian calls forth dholbach.. [06:25] bddebian, we just phoned.. i think he'll show up today :) === GheRivero [~ghe@81.172.94.172] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === dholbach [foobar@td9091b95.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:27] hellas [06:27] revu is stucking :/ [06:27] oh it's still REVIEW DAY! [06:27] SUPERB! [06:27] ogra: OK :-) [06:27] Hey, speak of the devil :-) [06:27] Hi dholbach [06:27] hey bddebian, how's it going? [06:27] DanielN: why? [06:27] huhu dholbach [06:28] hi siretart [06:28] dholbach, nope its transition, fix unmet deps, day... :) [06:28] that's everyday :) [06:28] oh, it's motu report day [06:28] DanielN: you just uploaded http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=288, did you? [06:28] dholbach: Fine thanks. You? [06:28] siretart, i don't come on REVU.. it's stucking [06:29] dholbach: How did you generate the UniverseUnmetDeps list? DId you use apt-cache unmet? [06:29] let's gather some comments for the MOTU report! how is life? being in motu land? these days? :) [06:29] bddebian: yes [06:29] dholbach: Can we (you?) update the list? I think it's stale :) [06:29] Or I can do it if you like [06:29] bddebian: and just listed the source packages [06:29] bddebian: i can do that, no problem [06:30] dholbach: Thank you [06:30] just gather some comments on MOTU to do some serious recruiting :-p [06:30] ?? [06:30] where's the motu marketing department? :) [06:30] bddebian: i'm writing the motu report every month to show how C O O L it is to be part of the story [06:31] :) [06:31] Heh [06:31] (ok and to report... actually) [06:31] You don't want my opinion then :-) [06:31] of course [06:31] you're part of MOTU land [06:31] Not yet :-) [06:32] bddebian: you are nearly a motu, you do nearly the same stuff as the people how have to upload their work ;) [06:32] of course - you hang out with us all day and do some serious work - even if your name doesnt show up on breezy-changes - you should chang that [06:33] Well, my only issue/concern is knowing getting a good idea of what to focus on and cross contaminating work. For example some packages cross between UnmetDeps and Merge [06:33] s/knowing// [06:34] bddebian: you do better work than a bunch of motus who were already approved :) [06:34] I do? :-) [06:34] yes [06:38] dholbach: OK good, thanks. Now what should I work on? :-) [06:39] is everything fixed already? :) [06:41] I'm stuck on MOTUToMerge for now. I was thinking about going back to UniverseUnmetDeps? [06:42] i have a package with unmet dependencies that just need to be rebuild. what should i do now? [06:43] Mo42: make sure it really builds and works you want it to, add a debian/changelog entry, do a debdiff, upload it to somewhere, tell elmo/infinity to add your name to the whitelist, let somebody upload the package with applied debdiff [06:43] Mo42: My understanding is post your stuff (including debdiff) somewhere and put it on the UniverseUnmetDeps wiki page for an MOTU to review [06:44] REVU is fine too, ticking it off on the list (universeunmetdeps) is cool too [06:44] dholbach: for such small debdiff, I don't think that revu is that well suited [06:45] ok [06:45] Gah, I was told not to put it on REVU.. This is what I'm talking about dholbach. There isn't much "consistency" on HOW things should be done :_) [06:45] in the current for, I try to improve that with revu2 [06:45] Just "constructive criticism" btw :) [06:45] current form [06:45] bddebian: you can always do it in a million different ways :) [06:45] bddebian: i just realized that i have too many locally installed packages, which make the output for universeunmetdeps a bit unsuitable :/ [06:46] is it save to edit the wikipage now? or are you updating it atm? [06:46] dholbach: Well I mean as far as putting it in front of an MOTU. :-) [06:46] bddebian: you could try creating or improving a wiki page describing HOW things should be done, so if anyone tells you otherwise, point him to that page .) [06:46] Mo42: go ahead [06:46] siretart: I don't feel comfortable since I am not an MOTU yet. I certainly don't want to try to drive policy. [06:47]