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GivenWayhow do i install bttv drivers?12:00
flodinebenplaut i want gnome menu12:00
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ZibiKebircan anybody help me set up a wireless mn-510 usb card12:00
benplautoh, not openbox within gnome12:00
benplautcan't help you there12:00
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flodineno i want the debian menu in openbox12:01
flodineyou know likw gnome has a debian menu in it12:02
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LasseLI run openbox, and my gnome menu panels didn't go away12:02
flodineLassel you on a laptop12:02
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cafuegoLasseL: Did you tell them to go away?12:02
pjwHi all, Will in the new Ubuntu be Evince (PDF browser) instead Xpdf, defaultly?12:03
LasseLnope12:03
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cafuegoLasseL: Then why would they?12:03
cafuegopjw: Evince12:03
LasseLcafuego, I was responding to flodine, not asking a question12:03
flodineLassel how did you get the gnome in the menu12:03
mpmcVista is coming! All run and hide!12:04
flodinemines not there12:04
mpmclol12:04
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=== cafuego eyes LasseL
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Seveassomeone called?12:04
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cafuegoSeveas: Yes. We'd like a cognac please.12:05
LasseLflodine, I did a openbox --replace and all that changed was the window frames, the gnomepanel is still there. Like I expeced. Isn't that what you want?12:05
pjwcafuego: without xpdf?12:05
mpmcinstalling KDE takes forever!12:05
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cafuegopjw: I'm sure you can install xpdf too.12:05
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Vistampmc: ever tried to install me? KDE beats that :)12:05
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ZibiKebirthe problem with my adapter is that it is recognized when i do a lsusb command, meanign its found in the bios but its not found as one of the network interfaces12:05
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benjiwhere are you from, what country12:05
arathaldevery time I try to configure, I get this mssg or similar: configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH12:06
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ZibiKebirwhen i do ifconfig only eth0 is found and lo is found but no wlan12:06
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cafuegobenji: Did you want 420 answers?12:06
benjisure12:06
Seveasarathald, sudo aptitude install build-essential12:06
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cafuegobenji: try /whois <nick>12:06
Vista*g*12:06
cafuegobenji: That will show you where someone is from. (in most cases)12:06
arathaldSeveas is that one-time or do i have to do that each time i configure?12:06
=== mpmc snares at vista.
Vistacafuego: not for .com and .net which are quite prevalent :)12:06
=== mpmc ssssssss
Seveasarathald, one time12:07
arathaldSaveas: tyvm12:07
cafuegompmc: Just coz it's ugly and coming in 2008 doesn't mean you have to use it.12:07
mpmclol.. I have it damm it....12:07
Seveascafuego, it's not that ugly12:08
mpmcMy brother can only understand windows :/12:08
flodineLassel i did the replace command and nothing in my menu12:08
cafuegompmc: Did he have a lobotomy? ;-)12:08
Madpilotmpmc: you can get help for that sort of handicap...12:08
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Seveasmpmc, then give him the bsod screensaver and he'll feel right at home :)12:08
mpmclol12:08
flodineLassel just the basic no gnome or debian12:08
cafuegoSeveas: Really? or in the sameway luna is "not ugly"12:08
Seveascafuego, it's still windows so it won't be pretty. But it's better than XP12:09
mpmcI have CP.... so.. I hate the word handicap.12:09
cafuegoSeveas: so is a brick to the forehead...12:09
mpmc:@12:09
Madpilotmpmc: ah, sorry. joke gone wrong then...12:09
Seveascafuego, ... :)12:09
mpmcDoyou know what CP is?12:09
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sky_monkey007hey all :)12:10
patrickjDoes anyone know the original system fonts?12:10
Seveascaustic phybrosis?12:10
sky_monkey007does anyone here run kubuntu w/ kxdocker?12:10
mpmcNoo...12:10
patrickjbecause mine got messed up and I need to original ones12:10
mpmcvisit www.scope.org.uk <=.. I cant spell it12:10
patrickjor does noone wanna help me at all?12:10
LokeDKwhy does k3b burn with 18x when it's supposed to burn with 48x ? it uses cdrecord12:10
cafuegohttp://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/10/0,1425,sz=1&i=102824,00.jpg12:11
LasseLwhat really annoys me about openbox is that eat seems to eat my keyboard events. Such as page up/down in firefox12:11
cafuegoThat pretty much says it all, I guess.12:11
cafuegoLooks like they went for the Gnome 1.4 look.12:11
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Madpilotcafuego: is that real or 'shopped?12:11
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cafuegoMadpilot: Apparently it's real.12:11
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BurgundaviaMadpilot, it is real12:11
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arathaldnot I get configure: error: Cannot find ltdl.h -- libtool-devel not installed?12:11
Madpilotcafuego: gah. looks like some of the flakier themes from gnome-looks or elsewhere...12:12
Seveasarathald, install the libtool-dev package12:12
cafuegoMadpilot: it should have more buttons though, like "Because it sucks" as well as "Cancel".12:12
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Seveasarathald, what are you trying to compile?12:12
patrickjhmm I wonder if my messages are not seen..?12:12
Seveaspatrickj, no they aren't :)12:12
arathaldseveas: gnucash12:12
roo_patrickj, what msgs? ;)12:12
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Madpilotarathald: gnucash in in Hoary repos12:12
bartekphi12:12
Seveasarathald, that is available in the repositories12:12
Seveas!info gnucash12:13
majicdoes anyone know how long it might take to get an updated package with the latest stable version of Ruby? I'm just kind wondering why there was a beta version of Ruby in the repos for like ever...12:13
ubotugnucash: (A personal finance tracking program), section universe/gnome, is extra. Version: 1.8.9-4ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1237 kB, Installed size: 3844 kB12:13
Burgundaviamajic, there is a bug filed about it12:13
cafuego!info ruby12:13
patrickjwell can someone please help me, sorry to seem annoying but since Ive installed ubuntu ive had a few questions and they still go unansewred, but I figured most of em out, but this one I cant12:13
uboturuby: (An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.8.1-8 (hoary), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 96 kB12:13
Burgundaviamajic, they are looking at solutins12:13
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majicthat is old. 1.8.2 is the latest and needed by Rails12:13
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arathaldseveas: does that mean I can use apt-get for it?12:14
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patrickjI just need to know the original system fonts12:14
Seveasarathald, yes12:14
Seveaspatrickj, http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/screenshot.png12:14
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Seveasarathald, you will need to enable universe to get it12:14
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Seveasarathald: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:15
Seveasarathald: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:15
Burgundaviamajic, Ubuntu does not update stable releases with new versions of applications12:15
patrickjSeveas: thanks you veyr much :D12:15
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patrickjanyone know of any *good* icon themes?12:15
BurgundaviaMadpilot, http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow_viewer/0,1205,l=&p=1&s=26945&a=156757&po=1&i=1,00.asp12:15
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Seveaspatrickj, gnome-look.org / art.gnome.org :)12:15
majicBurgundavia, but the version they picked was broken and only released for 3 days12:15
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Burgundaviamajic, this issue is well known and they are evaluated options12:16
MadpilotBurgundavia: oooo shiny...12:16
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BurgundaviaMadpilot, think cake, rotten...12:16
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Burgundaviamajic, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1261312:16
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MadpilotBurgundavia: didn't say it was good. just shiny. ;)12:17
Discipulusut12:17
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SeveasMadpilot, it's xp with a new theme :)12:18
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Amaranthvista has one thing i want12:18
nelsongsi have upgraded the firmware/drivers of ipw2200, but still didn't work12:18
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MadpilotSeveas: pretty much. and a fussy theme at that...12:18
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MadpilotAmaranth: seriously?12:18
littlewormhow can i run a script on startup?12:18
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Seveastoo big: http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow_viewer/0,1205,l=&s=26945&a=156757&po=17,00.asp12:18
AmaranthI actaully kinda like the transparent chrome idea.12:19
Amaranthoh, you guys don't know what chrome is :)12:19
Jemtylittleworm: Using Gnome ?12:19
Amaranthtransparent window border12:19
littlewormyeah12:19
eriscoyo yall12:19
Ferraramy ati has little frames like 170 fps when a friend of mine has 3000 fps, i've the fglrx driver... anyone knows what is wrong ?12:19
Jemtylittleworm: The top-menu : System > Preferences > Sessions12:19
Amaranthand in explorer their breadcrumb trail owns nautilus's12:19
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eriscocan anyone help me with mozilla?12:20
MadpilotAmaranth: the transparency is kinda cool, but overdone - too much of it12:20
Jemtylittleworm: Use the tab 'Startup Programs'12:20
littlewormand add the script?12:20
Jemtylittleworm: Yep12:20
eriscookay12:20
AmaranthMadpilot: it's subtle enough that i don't think you'd notice12:20
littlewormthanks12:20
Cry_Mac_UbuntuOkay, Update manager time. Cya.12:20
Jemtylittleworm: No problem :)12:20
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eriscowell where can i find the mozilla plugin directory?12:20
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eriscoi am trying to install javaruntime12:21
hondje!java12:21
uboturumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.12:21
plopperisco did you add multiverse and backports to /etc/apt/sources.list?12:21
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eriscomultiverse huh? i am new =012:21
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teddyive got a problem with 5.0.4 for PPC12:22
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Seveasplopp, backports has nothing to do with java, hoary-extras has :)12:22
teddyi attmpted to compile last night on a fresh install12:22
Jemtyerisco: A good place to start: www.ubuntuguide.org :)12:22
plopperisco http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories12:22
Madeyeis it safe to use this repos http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories12:22
majicBurgundavia, I don't see why somebody hasn't updated the package from the current 1.8.2 release. Having just switched over from Gentoo I don't see why it's that big of a deal, or maybe it is. I'm sure the package would not have changed much since it just incorporates some bug fixes.12:22
SeveasJemty, that's a bad place to start....12:22
ploppSeveas: just to have more packages available :)12:22
Seveasplopp, bad list, backports on by default is not recommended12:22
JemtySeveas: Not in my opinion12:22
Burgundaviamajic, basically the policy is no new versions, because if they break things, you have bad news12:22
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ploppSeveas: for me it works fine12:23
Burgundaviamajic, did you read the comment from Sebastian Bacher on that bug?12:23
Madeyeis it safe to use this repos http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories12:23
eriscoalright so i went to the repositories on the unbuntu guide12:23
Amaranthhttp://www.pcmag.com/slideshow_viewer/0,1205,l=&s=26945&a=156757&po=11,00.asp holy shit12:23
SeveasJemty, but it is :) i've spent lots of days in here helping people solve problems caused by that thing...12:23
teddy5.0.4 PPC fresh install12:23
teddycompiling synergy ( synergy2.sf.net )12:23
teddychecking for C++ compiler default output... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables12:23
eriscowhat do repositories have to do with it?12:23
majicBurgundavia, I didn't see his comments in that link12:23
Seveasteddy, sudo aptitude install build-essential12:23
JemtySeveas: Could you elaborate on that? What kind of problems ?12:23
teddythank you12:23
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SeveasJemty, things not working, packages broken etc...12:23
ploppersico you need them so apt knows where to search for packages12:24
Burgundaviamajic, sorry by mdz12:24
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primahi all12:24
eriscoapt? well i already have javaruntime downloaded12:24
primacan u tell me web xmms ?12:24
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Seveaserisco, good, what is the filename of the thing you downloaded?12:24
eriscoi have everything done ecept for finding the mozilla plugin folder12:24
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ploppersico do it via apt, tha's much easier12:24
primaor how install xmms12:24
BurgundaviaMadeye, sort of. Backports is now hosting on official servers12:24
majicBurgundavia, yeah, I read those.12:24
Seveasprima, sudo aptitude install xmms12:24
eriscolet me check seveas12:24
JemtySeveas: Could you give an example? Would like to know what is not working12:24
SeveasJemty, the #configuresoundproperly for instance is a piece of crap...12:25
majicBurgundavia, if I knew how to build packages I'd attempt to fix the problem.12:25
eriscojre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.rpm12:25
Seveaserisco, bad file, throw away :)12:25
eriscoit is??12:25
JemtySeveas: Ok. I'll check it out12:25
plopperisco use the *bin12:25
majicbut sadly I'm too new to Ubuntu... I got spoiled using Gentoo12:25
eriscoi got it from the java site12:25
primaInitializing package states... Done <<<what next?12:25
Seveaserisco, you downloaded the rong one there12:25
eriscoreally?12:26
primaInitializing package states... Done <<<next what?12:26
plopperisco rpms are bad :)12:26
Madpilotbbl everyone...12:26
eriscookay i will take not of that12:26
eriscono rpms12:26
vader1102hb Madpilot12:26
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eriscoso where do i go then?12:26
Seveashang on12:26
plopperisco same page but use the *.bin file12:26
eriscookay =)12:26
cafuegoerisco: java.sun.com, download the .bin, not the .rpm.bin12:26
eriscosame page?12:26
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Seveaserisco, https://sdlcweb4b.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=878572A19D294841195B1D82B20BDD2F#http://192.18.97.133/ECom/EComTicketServlet/BEGIN878572A19D294841195B1D82B20BDD2F/-2147483648/975637035/1/627746/627626/975637035/2ts+/westCoastFSEND/jre-1.5.0_04-oth-JPR/jre-1.5.0_04-oth-JPR:3/jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin12:27
FR500hello12:27
JemtySeveas: Well, don't want to try it out. But it is much easier to just kill 'esd' when I ie want to play a game that communicates directly with the sound card and afterward load esd again :)12:27
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vader1102Seveas: I am happy, got the mana world to finally install on here lol, it took one of their developers to make the proper .deb package for it lol12:27
primaSeveas : how next ?12:27
Seveasprima, did you enable universe..?12:28
JemtyBRB12:28
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primaInitializing package states... Done <<<warning12:28
FR500is there a way to enable screen stretching at lower resolutions like in windoze on ly laptop?12:28
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Seveasprima, that does not answer my question...12:29
eriscoalright the .bin file is downloading12:29
eriscoi think i tried that one before and didn't have success12:29
eriscoso after it is downloaded... where do i go?12:29
vader1102brb12:29
eriscothanks for all the help btw12:29
cafuegoerisco: Once it downloaded, udo apt-get install java-package12:29
Seveaserisco, while the bin file is downloading: sudo apt-get install java-package fakeroot12:29
cafuegobut without the accents on the 'ses12:30
eriscowith the accent on sudo?12:30
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Seveaserisco, no :)12:30
eriscolol, joking12:30
cafuegoerisco: No, the accents is my retarded input setup12:30
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prima did you enable universe..? <<< what u mean ??12:30
Seveascafuego, then set it up properly ;)12:30
Seveasprima: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:30
Seveasprima: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:30
eriscookay it is downloaded let me bring up the terminal12:30
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cafuegoSeveas: I seems to be suffering from severe CBA12:30
eriscowhirrrr12:31
eriscookay its done12:31
eriscoso now i?12:31
Seveaswhat is done? apt-get?12:31
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eriscoyup12:31
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Seveasnow you do: fakeroot make-jpkg filename_of_java_bin12:32
eriscowow12:32
eriscothat didn't work12:33
cafuego!doesn work12:33
ubotuNo idea, cafuego12:33
cafuego!doesn't work12:33
ubotudoesn't work is, like, something you should never say.  Be more specific.12:33
Seveaswhat's the error?12:33
eriscooh sorry guys, little new12:33
eriscoError: The file "filename_of_java_bin" does not exist.12:33
Seveaserisco, hehe12:33
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Seveasput the actual filename there :)12:33
cafuegoerisco: Seveas meant the actual .bin you downloaded12:33
littlewormi managed to run a script on startup, but requires a password and because of that it doesn't work, solutions?12:34
eriscoi was thinking that12:34
cafuegolittleworm: what script?12:34
Seveaslittleworm, what does it need the password for?12:34
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littlewormsudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt -o umask=02212:35
Seveasehrm12:35
Seveasput that in fstab :)12:35
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eriscoso i have to give the path too?12:35
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Seveaserisco, if it;s not in your current directory: yes12:35
eriscobecause i can never get the terminal to find anything on the desktop12:35
littlewormSeveas, what's that?12:35
cafuegolittleworm: $EDITOR /etc/fstab12:35
eriscookay okay12:35
Seveaslittleworm: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically12:35
cafuegolittleworm: Just add an entry for your ntfs partition.12:36
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Seveasrun that script once12:36
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eriscocould i change my directory? with cd? then use that command?12:36
Seveaserisco, sure12:36
eriscookay12:36
AndieBHi alll!12:36
bobbydhi AndieB12:36
AndieBQuestion: How do I add my own program to the Program list in Ubuntu Linux?12:36
eriscofakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin12:36
eriscowhich will allow no damage to be done to your system files and12:36
eriscostill permit the Java distribution to successfully extract.12:36
eriscoAborting.12:36
jasoncohenhow do i change the mouse cursor theme in hoary?12:36
AndieBboodyd: Hi there!12:37
jasoncohenit changed after a reboot and i'm not sure why/how?12:37
eriscothat was meant to happen?12:37
bobbydAndieB, which program list?12:37
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Seveaserisco, what happened? did you abort it yourself?12:37
eriscono i didn't12:37
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AndieBbodbbyd: The one in GNOME, Programs, Systems like a TOOL bar...12:37
eriscoi will try it again12:37
t0mmyokay, i'm having a problem with cedega12:37
t0mmyi'm using a program called SSRMAX12:38
arathaldto run gnucash after I installed it, i had to go looking around, and I found an executable text file in /usr/bin/ but each time i run it i have to click run before gnucash will start. am i overlooking a shortcut somewhere to gnucash (i assumed it would be in my apps menu, but its not)12:38
eriscoit aborted again12:38
t0mmywhen i launch it, i get12:38
eriscohmmmmm12:38
Seveaserisco, and that is the complete output?12:38
eriscoyes12:38
t0mmy/usr/bin/cedega: line 348: 32025 Segmentation fault      $SHELL -c "$RUNWINE $WINVER -debugmsg $DEBUGMSG -use-dos-cwd $WORKDIR $EJECT $DT -- $COMMAND_LINE"12:38
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AndieBbobbyd: Do you follow me?12:38
t0mmythat's the error12:38
t0mmyand then the window closes12:38
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Seveasarathald, you can simply run it by hitting <alt><f2> and typing gnucash in the window that pops up12:39
eriscoYou are real root -- unfortunately, some Java distributions have12:39
eriscoinstall scripts that directly manipulate /etc, and may cause some12:39
eriscoinconsistencies on your system. Instead, you should become a12:39
erisconon-root user and run:12:39
eriscofakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin12:39
eriscoi missed that starting part lol12:39
Seveaserisco, drop to normal user12:39
Seveasdpn't run it as root12:39
eriscookay12:39
bobbydAndieB, sorry, I use KDE12:39
t0mmy<_<12:39
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eriscoi figured from what it said12:39
cafuegot0mmy: SSRMAX is windows software and cedega is proprietary payware. Try _their_ tech support.12:39
Seveaserisco, and please don't paste in here, use paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:39
arathaldseveas: is there a way to create a shorcut so i dont have to remember all my program names?12:39
t0mmywell, is there an IRC channel for it, or what?12:39
Seveasarathald, you can use smeg to edit the menu12:39
Seveas!smeg12:39
ubotusmeg is, like, a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.12:39
cafuegot0mmy: no idea12:39
t0mmyheh, there is12:40
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arathaldseveas: kk, thx12:40
AndieBbobbdyd: Oki, no probbs! Thanks for you effort anyhow!12:40
eriscowhirrrrr12:40
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eriscoi accidently missed the username12:41
eriscoit is blank o012:41
eriscoi hope that isn't too bad12:41
arathaldseveas: how do i install adeb: is it the same as a tar?12:41
Seveaserisco, it isn't :)12:41
AndieBAnyone who can help me out who is using GNOME?12:41
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eriscookay good12:41
cafuegolddlibc4: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:41
Seveasarathald, smeg comes with a nice install script12:41
cafuegoouch! ouch!12:41
Seveascafuego, ouch...12:42
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r0bbyhmmm was reading up on who Mark Shuttleworth was...i was curious how he got all his money12:42
r0bbyit's interesting12:42
Seveasarathald, http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg12:42
Seveasdownload and run that12:42
eriscoooh something appeared on my desktop12:42
AmaranthBtw, if anyone comes up with a better name for smeg and I accept it, I'll put you in the release notes for 0.812:42
Seveaserisco, a .deb file :)12:42
eriscoyup12:42
cafuegoSeveas: Luckily it's only beagle12:42
eriscookay its done12:42
Seveaserisco, sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/sun*deb12:42
r0bbywhat does smeg do?12:43
Seveasr0bby, it's a menu editor12:43
r0bbyfor what12:43
Amaranth!smeg12:43
ubotumethinks smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.12:43
Amaranthwhat it does isn't important12:43
Amaranthif you think it is, you won't come up with a name i like12:43
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eriscogeez, it amazes me how yo know this all12:43
eriscowell that process is complete12:43
Madpiloterisco: actually, ubotu knows everything. the rest of us just fake it... ;)12:43
cafuegoerisco: years of experience12:44
arathaldseveas: and how do i use that script12:44
txcangelaccording to some programs ive been trying to install i dont have any C or C++ Compiler installed so i cant make the install's then when i try to install GCC (a C & C++ compiler) it tells me that i need a C compiler to install that too... i dont know where i else to go...12:44
eriscoheh12:44
hou5tongeeezzz  ... what is the command to connect to another server?12:44
r0bbyusing what client?12:44
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Seveasarathald, sudo python installsme12:44
eriscoi guess i just need to gain that years of expirience part12:44
Seveasarathald, sudo python installsmeg12:44
r0bbyirssi, it's /connect <serner>12:44
hou5tonxchat12:44
Amarantharathald: open a terminal and type this in: wget http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg && chmod +x installsmeg && sudo ./installsmeg && rm installsmeg12:44
cafuegoerisco: it helps :-)12:44
r0bbyCtrl+T??12:44
eriscogo figure =p12:44
spudse_apt-get install asks me to insert the ubuntu cd, is that normal?12:44
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Seveasspudse_, yes, but you can disable it12:45
r0bbycomment out the top line :P12:45
Amaranthtxcangel: sudo apt-get install build-essential12:45
eriscookay so currently i have a .deb file on my desktop12:45
Seveaserisco, sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/sun*deb12:45
vader1102txangel: have you tried the synaptic packag manager?12:45
spudse_it should download whatever it needs the cd for, is that possible?12:45
Seveasthat's all there is left to do :)12:45
sexcopter8000mdoes anyone know of an msn client for linux that supports display pictures for contacts?12:45
eriscoand seveas, i just did that no?12:45
Seveassexcopter8000m, gaim :)12:45
sexcopter8000mit does?12:45
Seveaserisco, if you already fif that, you're done :)12:45
eriscoyes i just did do that12:45
sexcopter8000mmine doesn't, afaik12:45
eriscooh really?great12:45
arathaldamaranth: well, as much as I'd like to just copy and paste that, I really need to learn how to use the console myself, and the best way is to take things step-by-step and understand exactly what's going on. thanks for the shorcut tho12:45
eriscolet me test it out12:45
sexcopter8000mbut i have the ubuntu version, which it says is out of date12:46
Seveaserisco, try: java -version12:46
eriscobesides the fact, what do i do with the .deb file?12:46
Seveassexcopter8000m, the ubuntu version works fine here12:46
Seveaserisco, you can toss it away12:46
Madpilotarathald: for basic command line stuff, I like http://linuxcommand.org/12:46
Seveastogether with the .bin file12:46
sexcopter8000mi get pictures for other contacts, but how do you set a picture for yourself?12:46
eriscookay good, deb file gone. and it came back with a version! good12:46
spudse_Seveas: how do i set apt-get to download the needed files instead of using the cd?12:47
eriscowell i learned a couple more commands, and that rmps aren't good12:47
Seveassexcopter8000m, tools->account, select your account, hit edit, and set the picture :)12:47
eriscothanks a lot seveas12:47
r0bbyI love Breezy :D12:47
r0bby:P12:47
Seveasspudse_, edit /etc/apt/sources.list as root (sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list) and remove the entry with the CD12:47
vader1102oh I just love having lag lol12:47
r0bbyhou5ton, Ctrl+t12:47
r0bby/server <server>12:47
spudse_Seveas ok thanks12:47
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r0bbyto get a new server :)12:48
Seveasr0bby, /newserver12:48
Seveas:)12:48
r0bbyor that :P12:48
hou5tonr0bby:  ya ... i also got smart enough to do /help  ;-)12:48
r0bby:P12:48
Seveashou5ton, that's about as smart as it gets :)12:48
hou5tonSeveas:  LOL12:49
hou5tonya12:49
r0bbyhou5ton, should have done that to begin w/12:49
r0bbyrather than expecting somebody to hold your hand :)12:49
shakuhashihow is breezy going? plenty bugs or not?12:49
hou5tonr0bby:  ya ... hopefully hou5ton will remember next time12:49
r0bbyit works well for me12:49
r0bby:P12:49
vader1102I get frustrated then I calm down and come in lol12:49
hou5tonhey ... give me time ... i'm learning12:49
r0bbyit's okay12:49
r0bby:)12:49
shakuhashii'll install it tomorow12:49
txcangelthx all12:49
spudse_when i have installed the multimedia codecs, do I need to reboot or can I use them right away ?12:49
vader1102when all the dust settlles I just get it to work12:49
eriscoone more thing right now....12:50
Seveasshakuhashi, X is still broken12:50
Seveasso you'd better not install it if you want a GUI :)12:50
eriscoi need some sort of guide to apache12:50
shakuhashiliving well untill now with my hoary12:50
r0bbywhy does it work fine for me :P12:50
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eriscoi have the server running12:50
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eriscobut i can't do anything with it yet12:50
Seveaserisco, web pages go in /var/www/12:50
Seveaswhat more do you need :)12:50
Madpiloterisco: #apache here on freenode is useful12:50
r0bbyuserdir goes in ~/public_html/12:51
arathaldmadpilot: thx- will check it out12:51
shakuhashipeople in brazil leaving their debian servers for ubuntu ones12:51
vader1102<---won't do a server until his command line is better known lol12:51
eriscomadpilot, ty12:51
eriscoi will copy that down12:51
r0bbyexample http://hostname/~user12:51
cafuegoshakuhashi: That very stupid of them.12:51
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Seveasvader1102, www.tldp.org :)12:51
vader1102Seveas: ty12:51
r0bbyI still can't use sed and awk yet12:51
r0bby\never cared12:52
newbie3could some one give me a baisc nat script for ubuntu?12:52
shakuhashicafuego, why do you say that?12:52
r0bbyI did however use sed for regex one day :P12:52
r0bbybasic12:52
newbie3and tell me where to put it?12:52
hou5tonBurgundavia:  if you're still here, I found sort of what I'm looking for ... now just trying to figure out how to make it work.   gdesklets12:52
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cafuegoshakuhashi: debian has been stable for _years_.12:52
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cafuegoshakuhashi: Last i checked servers needed stability.12:52
eriscobad news seveas, i think i messed up again12:52
newbie3or a website with it12:52
r0bby:)12:52
newbie3showing u12:52
eriscoi don't have a /var/ anything12:52
shakuhashicafuego, what about the recent security problems with sarge?12:52
Seveaserisco, :|12:52
[Spooky] anyone use Skype here ? :)12:52
eriscoi can ping the server when it is running though12:52
spudse_I have a fat32 partition on my harddisk, can Ubuntu read from it?12:52
cafuegoshakuhashi: They were resolved.12:52
Seveasdid you remove /var ..?12:52
Seveasspudse_, yes12:52
eriscoand i can see it's temporary page12:52
Seveasspudse_: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically12:53
eriscoi am running apache2 btw12:53
newbie3anywone? nat hep??12:53
LokeDK[Spooky] , yes12:53
shakuhashicafuego, you use ubuntu just for desktop?12:53
newbie3help12:53
r0bbyhmmm openoffice was held back12:53
Seveaserisco, you have no /var/www..?12:53
cafuegoshakuhashi: Yep12:53
erisconope....12:53
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cafuegoshakuhashi: if ubuntu is stable on 2007, i might consider it for a server12:53
eriscoi am in my file browser right nowe12:53
r0bbywell openoffice.org-debian-files12:53
[Spooky] LokeDK: hehe ok, so where are you from then ?12:53
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spudse_Saveas: ok thanks, how do i mount the partition just for now ?12:53
D1what? so 1.1.x will be on breezy?12:53
LokeDK[Spooky] , denmark12:53
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Seveasspudse_, mount /dev/your_partition /mnt -t vfat -o umask=000012:54
shakuhashicafuego, what do you say when debian users ask you to use sarge as desktop instead of ubuntu?12:54
eriscoi got help on the forums as how to install apache12:54
benplautD1: 2.0 will be backported, in worst case12:54
charlescrimsun: I'm having a bit of trouble and hear you're the audio expert / person to talk to12:54
[Spooky] LokeDK: ah cool im swedish :) wanna talk with me and friend ?12:54
r0bbyunF unF unF12:54
Seveaserisco, what's the output of ls -al /var12:54
spudse_Seveas: thanks12:54
D1Im using 2.0, it works well.12:54
r0bby:)12:54
D1way faster than 1.112:54
crimsuncharles: what's up?12:54
Seveasput it on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl please12:54
eriscofrom that directory? jsut a sec12:54
benplautD1: 1.9 beta ;)12:54
newbie3please any one ? whant to share my internet with nat?12:54
D1I know.12:54
D1works well, still.12:54
newbie3url anything?12:54
Seveasnewbie3, install firestarter12:55
D1fedora did it.12:55
spudse_Saveas: how do i run fstab ?12:55
LokeDK[Spooky] , sorry - my microphone is broken12:55
[Spooky] LokeDK: hehe ok12:55
LokeDKDon't have the money for a new one12:55
Seveasspudse_, you mean the script I gave you?12:55
JaZYLNXis there a ubuntu channel that's just for ppc?12:55
charlesI have an audiophile 2496 card (uses the ice1712 chipset). The sound comes out at the wrong pitch and sounds garbled, however turning the volume down works12:55
SeveasJaZYLNX, no12:55
spudse_Saveas: yes, it opens in gedit12:55
eriscototal 6012:55
eriscodrwxr-xr-x  15 root root  4096 2005-07-31 11:37 .12:55
eriscodrwxr-xr-x  22 root root  4096 2005-07-30 12:50 ..12:55
eriscodrwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 2005-07-31 07:36 backups12:55
eriscodrwxr-xr-x  11 root root  4096 2005-07-31 13:42 cache12:55
newbie3Seveas: a nat script would be just as good an i could learn more12:55
eriscodrwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 2005-07-30 17:04 games12:55
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eriscodrwxr-xr-x  33 root root  4096 2005-07-31 13:42 lib12:55
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r0bbyflood in #flood12:55
Seveaserisco, i said: on the pastebin!12:55
JaZYLNXdo you guys offer support for ppc ubuntu?12:55
Seveasno pasting in here12:56
Madpilot!pastebin12:56
ubotupastebin is, like, at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood12:56
SeveasJaZYLNX, yup :)12:56
benplautJaZ: yup12:56
crimsuncharles: one sec12:56
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JaZYLNXnice :)12:56
Seveasspudse_, in a terminal you type: sudo bash winmac_fstab12:56
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r0bbysomebody entertain me12:56
JaZYLNXi want the sleep light to be active as the hdd light, i know it can be set in the kernel, can i just run the make util for the kernel and enable.?12:56
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SeveasJaZYLNX, if it's a compile time option for the kernel read the following:12:57
eriscoah! what is this demigod thing?12:57
cafuegoJaZYLNX: Does the kernel need patching for it?12:57
r0bbyare there any utils to fix ntfs partitions from within linux12:57
SeveasJaZYLNX: You can find compilation instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto12:57
r0bbyuserspace tools?12:57
eriscostealing my voice?12:57
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Seveasr0bby, 'fix'?12:57
JaZYLNXthanks12:57
r0bbyas in, it's dead12:57
Seveasr0bby, in that case: no12:57
Seveasntfs is proprietary crap12:57
r0bbyas in there over 100 errors as SMART reported12:57
Seveasr0bby, that's not an ntfs error12:58
Seveasthat's deeper12:58
r0bbyI know :/12:58
Madpilotr0bby: sounds like your drive is dying12:58
Seveastry to mount it12:58
r0bbyit is :/12:58
r0bbyi tried12:58
Seveasand copy over all you can12:58
Seveasand then throw it out12:58
Amaranthr0bby: makes backups of everything important and get a new drive12:58
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r0bby_how_?12:58
Amaranthr0bby: if you can't even access it now it's lost12:58
geneo93whos the expert on travan drives12:59
Seveasif it won't mount: you're doomed12:59
r0bbymount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,12:59
r0bby       missing codepage or other error12:59
r0bby:P12:59
r0bbyyeh doomed :p12:59
Seveasr0bby, what was your mount call?12:59
Amaranthr0bby: you did -t ntfs?12:59
r0bbyyeh it mounts fine :p12:59
r0bbyor it did12:59
eriscowhat has happened?12:59
eriscocan anyone here my?12:59
Madpilotr0bby: any data-recovery cleanroom businesses you can send the thing to? if it's that screwed...12:59
crimsuncharles: it sounds (no pun intended) like you need a newer version of the ALSA drivers. I'm sending you instructions in priv msg.12:59
eriscohear*12:59
Seveaserisco, you pasted in here12:59
crimsun!tell charles about alsa-source12:59
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eriscopasted?12:59
Seveasso I muted you12:59
eriscoi am so sorry, i think i did something very bad12:59
r0bbyboot sector invalid01:00
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eriscopasted?01:00
Seveaspaste the output of 'ls -al /var' on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:00
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eriscobut you asked for the input01:00
r0bbyI am so screwed :/01:00
Seveaserisco, yes, on that website01:00
Seveasnot in here01:00
eriscoack! on what website?01:00
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Seveasthe one I mentioned about 10 times now :)01:00
Seveashttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:00
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eriscoi feel so confused and stupid....01:00
charleswow... I love it when people post the commands &&'d together, that's how I always do it.01:01
Amaranth!paste01:01
ubotusomebody said paste was ""http://ubuntu.pastebin.com http://pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.""01:01
eriscoi don't recall you mentioning that01:01
r0bby126 errors01:01
Amaranthick01:01
charlescrimsun: thanks... will try and let you know01:01
crimsuncharles: ok01:01
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Amaranthubotu: no, paste is Please use http://rafb.net/paste/ or #flood to paste large ammounts of text01:01
ubotuAmaranth: okay01:01
geneo93bbiab01:01
SeveasAmaranth, hm>01:01
eriscowhat do i put under the name field?01:01
r0bby:/01:02
Seveaswhat's wrong with the other?01:02
r0bbyI use win32 primarily :P01:02
concept10this new kid on MTV is starting to wreck my nerves01:02
eriscowill i ever be unmuted again?01:02
vader1102is anyone talking?01:02
Seveaserisco, you are already :)01:02
eriscooh okay01:02
AmaranthSeveas: pastebin is crappy :)01:02
eriscoi am so extremely sorry01:02
SeveasAmaranth, rafb is crappy :)01:02
r0bbyThe previous self-test completed having01:02
r0bbythe read element of the test failed.01:02
r0bbyoh yeh01:02
r0bbyit's dead.01:02
eriscoi didn't know...01:02
Seveaserisco, you put your nickname in the name field01:02
r0bby:/01:03
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eriscookay01:03
Seveasor anything you like :)01:03
AmaranthSeveas: pastebin thinks everything is PHP01:03
Belutzubuntu is crappy :/?01:03
SeveasAmaranth, solved months ago....01:03
eriscowasn't sure if i was to put your name in there as to send it to you01:03
r0bbyanybody want a brick?01:03
charleswhat do I do if I get the error "you don't have the compiler that your kernel was built with"?01:03
toad3030anybody mind helping me with my no sound issue pls?   i am running AMD Athlon 64 3000+ w/ a audigy 2 ZS, i also have the Ubuntu64 installed also01:03
eriscookay it is posted01:03
AmaranthSeveas: rafb supports Python syntax highlighting01:03
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spudse_I am playing a divx with Totem, but the sound is out of sync with the video, how can I fix that ?01:03
SeveasAmaranth, pastebin.com too01:03
Seveasand much more languages :)01:04
Seveasand it simply looks cleaner01:04
AmaranthSeveas: pastebin has an overly complicated UI01:04
crimsuntoad3030: please paste the output of amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.org01:04
AmaranthSeveas: and i hate purple01:04
benplautr0bby: probably not01:04
SeveasAmaranth, purple?!?!01:04
Seveasit's blue01:04
Seveasand simple :)01:04
crimsuntoad3030: sorry, paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:04
Amaranthoh, it's dirty blue and gray now01:04
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jazzanovahi01:04
AmaranthSeveas: Pastebin can't win at simple, rafb is 4 links and the paste01:05
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benplautthen use #flood...01:05
SeveasAmaranth, i like the 'last X posts' thing01:05
eriscoso the fact that command came back with results, that means i do have a /var?01:05
AmaranthSeveas: It's useless for Ubuntu.01:05
eriscoand if so, why can't i see it under file manager?01:06
crimsuntoad3030: that's ok, just open a terminal and type: amixer01:06
toad3030ok, just a sec01:06
r0bby:(01:06
crimsuntoad3030: copy and paste all that output onto the web site01:06
AmaranthSeveas: Oh, and pastebin has ads.01:06
Seveasnot really, people in here often just say 'ok, pasted it'01:06
SeveasAmaranth, nope :)01:06
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toad3030ya01:06
toad3030will do01:06
AmaranthSeveas: yep.01:06
Seveaspastebin.ca has01:06
Seveaspastebin.com not01:06
Madpiloterisco: /var is under Filesystem, not your /home directory01:06
Seveasthey are VERY different01:06
AmaranthSeveas: I'm staring at a google add right now on pastebin.com01:06
Amarantherr, ad01:06
eriscoyes i know madpilot... er wait do i?01:07
SeveasAmaranth, hmm?!?01:07
SeveasI see no ads...01:07
eriscothis is my post on pastebin http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/85301:07
Seveashmm, wait, google ads. I blecked these with adblock :D01:07
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r0bbyit's funny, the oldest drive, is the one in the best condition01:07
Seveaserisco, simply said: you have a /var/www folder01:07
eriscoyou mean just plain /var! not etc/apache/var/?01:08
Seveasplese look for it more careful :)01:08
Seveasyes, /var/www01:08
sproingieso what's this mean when I try to install a package?01:08
sproingiedpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:01:08
Madpiloterisco: just plain /var/ww01:08
sproingie EOF after field name `'01:08
eriscowhoooo!!! YEHA01:08
r0bbythe one in the worst condition is my 200g which is what holds my ubuntu install :X01:08
eriscoOkay this is getting cool01:08
Seveassproingie, ouch01:08
Seveasthat means problems...01:08
r0bbythe nest worst is my 30gb which is the one that holds my old winxp install01:08
toad3030ok it is pasted there now01:08
sproingiei never touched it01:08
eriscoThanks guys for dealing with my ignorance01:08
r0bbythen is my laptop hard drive i have mounted01:08
eriscoi got ubuntu about 20 hours ago01:08
sproingiei had expected it would be windows that ate itself, not linux01:08
eyequeuesproingie:  ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/available01:08
eriscoand learning it is sometimes fusterating, and sometimes fun01:09
sproingieeyequeue: zero length file.  i copied available-old over it and got the same error01:09
eriscoterminal is kinda new to me01:09
Madpiloterisco: you can change the ownership of var/www, or just add your own folders inside it01:09
eriscowasn't much terminal on windows01:09
Seveassproingie, copy over /var/lib/dpkg/available to a safe location and then remove it from /var/lib/dpkg/01:09
eyequeuesproingie: df /var/lib/dpkg/available01:09
sproingieSeveas: now it just complains it doesn't exist01:09
eriscoyea i was just gunna empty var/www and put in my website01:09
hondjeanyone use a pocket pc with evolution?01:09
Seveassproingie, correct01:09
Madpiloterisco: in a terminal: cd /var/www01:09
eyequeuesproingie: is there room on the partition?01:09
Seveaswe'll recreate it now :)01:09
sproingieeyequeue: plenty01:10
erisconow when i start the apache server, is there anyway to indicate it is started?01:10
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eriscooh okay01:10
charlesI have a compiler mis-match, it says that i "don't have the compiler my kernel was built with"... is there a way to get a different kernel or do I have to built it from scratch?01:10
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eriscoi am there01:10
eyequeuesproingie: okay, Seveas will walk you back to success-land :)01:10
Madpiloterisco: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP <-- at the bottom of the page, there's info on starting/stopping/restarting Apache01:10
Seveassproingie, dpkg -R --record-avail /var/lib/apt/lists01:10
eriscoi am in www on my terminal01:10
Seveaserisco, if you can reach your webpage, it is started :)01:11
sproingieSeveas: dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory01:11
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Seveassproingie, touch /var/lib/dpkg/available01:11
Madpiloterisco: OK. in your browser (not the termina) just type "localhost" into an address bar01:11
Seveasand retry01:11
eriscoyes... i could always check it that way seveas, but i mean can't i have a terminal running it?01:11
eriscoor an icon appear?01:11
sproingieSeveas: dpkg: searched, but found no packages (files matching *.deb)01:11
eriscodunna just asking01:11
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eriscoso i don't forget what state it is in01:11
Seveaserisco, it simply always runs when you start your computer...01:11
eriscomadpilot, yea i have been there before01:12
tiglionabbithello everyone.  I haven't been around here in a while.  Did anyone miss me?01:12
eriscothe default thing01:12
eriscowhich i can now replace01:12
linlini missed you01:12
Seveassproingie, hmm, which command gave that output?01:12
sproingieSeveas: incidentally, this happened after upgradingb dpkg (security upgrade looks like)01:12
eriscoseveas, actually i have found commands to start and stop it01:12
tiglionabbitthank you, linlin =] 01:12
eyequeuetiglionabbit:  wb :)01:12
Madpiloterisco: with Apache running, there should be a folder apache2-default/ in localhost01:12
jazzanovahaving trouble playing the dvd. it says error accessing the device. dmesg recognizes the device as DVD01:12
sproingieSeveas: the one you gave me, dpkg -R --record-avail /var/lib/apt/lists01:12
eriscookay, i have to start apache01:12
tiglionabbitoh hi eyequeue, been a while since I've seen you too01:13
jazzanovai am using gxine01:13
eyequeuetiglionabbit:  exactly :)01:13
Madpiloterisco: that will link you to the Apache documentation01:13
eriscooh it is on01:13
Seveassproingie, try dselect update01:13
tiglionabbitheh, I used to try and help people out here, but any info I have will be a bit dated now01:13
tiglionabbitcan't wait til breezy01:13
Madpiloterisco: Apache will start automagically on install & on boot01:13
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crimsuntoad3030: type this in a terminal: amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on01:13
eriscowill it? cool01:13
jazzanovait says no input plugin was found01:14
toad3030k01:14
eriscoso i have to manually turn it off01:14
eriscobut it on default will be on01:14
sproingieSeveas: that seems to have done it.  oddly, aptitude's update does not do it01:14
Madpiloterisco: yes, to both questions.01:14
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Geist|Patrickhi01:14
eriscojust that i did turn it off, and couldn't remember if i turned it back on01:14
Seveassproingie, there is a reason why :)01:14
JaZYLNXanyone know where the blink sleep light is?01:14
Seveasaptitude is simply too smart :)01:14
JaZYLNXin the kernel config01:14
toad3030ok01:14
Geist|Patricksomeone here who could help me fixing problems that were caused by captive01:14
Seveasaptitude compares timestamps, dselect doesn't01:14
elmagozizouhey what happens if the md5sum of an image is not the same of the one it should be? it doesnt work?01:14
sproingieSeveas: yeah, it was slow as molasses rebuilding the database (relatively speaking)01:14
Geist|Patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/85201:14
erisconow, is the server actually broadcasting to the universe right now?01:14
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Geist|Patricki need help to correct that file01:15
Seveaserisco, correct01:15
Madpiloterisco: no. it's just listening01:15
eriscoseveas said yes, madpilot said it is just listening01:15
toad3030thank you crimsun01:15
sproingieSeveas: or reading the db anyway, presumably it was rebuilding something cached.  apt's magic is really rather deep01:15
tiglionabbitI have a pretty unrelated question though, but I don't know who else to ask it of.  My tablet PC is falling apart, which makes me sad.  And I need a cell phone.  I was thinking I want to get an interesting handheld, with a stylus and support for a keyboard, but also wireless internet for web browsing, messenger, email, and to also work as a cell phone.  I don't know exactly what I'm looking for though01:15
JaZYLNXnever mind found it01:15
Geist|Patrickalthough captive failed to install, it modified the fstab file01:15
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eriscoi know it is listening for requests01:15
crimsuntoad3030: np01:15
Geist|Patrickand a restart didnt updated the file :/01:15
toad3030how would i get my 5.1 to work then?01:15
nessmukcan someone help me get my floppy drive recognized?01:15
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eriscodon't know if it is safe to say the port number?01:16
Madpiloterisco: Seveas: I thought it just listened by default, but I could be wrong.01:16
Seveaserisco, webservers cannot broadcast01:16
eriscolol, you know what i mean01:16
Seveaserisco, but by default everyone from everywhere can connect01:16
eriscowell at least i think you do01:16
eriscookay01:16
crimsuntoad3030: you need to use a program that outputs to 5.1; you also need to adjust the mixer sliders labeled Surround, Center, and LFE01:16
Seveasthat's what madpilot meant :)01:16
toad3030ok, ty01:17
hondjeAnyone use a PocketPC with Evolution?01:17
eriscookay okay, lol01:17
erisconow, to get a domain... i have to buy one right?01:17
vader1102hondje: I use it but now with pocket pc01:17
eriscoapache can't host one can it?01:17
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Madpiloterisco: you need to buy a domain from someone01:17
eriscoyup okay01:17
vader1102not^^01:17
eriscoi was sure on that one01:17
Seveaserisco, you can get free ones too01:17
eriscofree ones?01:17
eriscooh yes like freewebs01:18
hondjevader1102, now or not? :)01:18
Geist|Patrickwhat are the default settings to use the kernel driver reading those ntfs01:18
vader1102not01:18
eriscono i wanted my own, as in own, short domain01:18
Seveasyeah, like erisco.tk or erisco.dyndns.org01:18
vader1102sorry derned fingers01:18
erisco.tk is free?01:18
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Seveasyes01:18
eriscooh cool01:18
Seveassee www.dot.tk01:18
eriscowell i could always use taht right now01:18
eriscoi will register with that then01:19
eriscothis is something else i am not sure of01:19
primawhy yahooo messenger can't webcam?01:19
eriscoi have a domain01:19
crimsunGeist|Patrick: would you rephrase your question? It's difficult to understand.01:19
eriscoi have my server01:19
eriscoi have my website01:19
eriscohow do i combine the three?01:19
primahow ym open web cam01:19
hondjeprima, doesn't work in linux yet01:19
Seveaserisco, hehe :)01:19
eriscoso when a person goes to my domain, they go to my site on my server?01:19
eriscoyes i am dumb i know01:20
primado u know gyach ?01:20
Seveasusually you let your domain point to your server, with tk you will have to take a detour01:20
eriscoi only have built websites01:20
eriscothis is so new... actually making a server01:20
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eriscoif i ever get good at this i hope it to be a buisness01:20
PrimoTurboHey guys how do I uninstall or remove doom3-demo?01:20
eriscobut anyhow01:20
Madpilotgot to go - good luck with Apache, erisco!01:20
eriscothanks! for the help and all01:20
Geist|Patrickcrimsun: ok01:20
SeveasI can explain it to you tomorrow (i'm going to sleep now) or you'll have to ask someone else :)01:20
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JaZYLNXis there a better walk through for the bootload cuz i'm using yaboot01:20
Geist|Patricki am a linux noob01:20
Geist|Patricki tried to read the ntfs mediums01:20
PrimoTurboI passed it and don't need it anymore, how do I remove the demo for doom3?01:20
eriscoi am thinking .tk will tell me how to do this?01:21
SeveasGeist|Patrick: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically01:21
eriscolet me check01:21
Geist|Patricki looked google to find a solution01:21
sproingieSeveas: thanks for the help.  don't think i'd have figured it out otherwise :)01:21
Seveaserisco, not completely :)01:21
Geist|Patricki found captive01:21
Geist|Patricki tried to install it, but it failed01:21
Seveaserisco, do you have a fixed IP address?01:21
crimsunGeist|Patrick: please see the URL that Seveas pasted. It makes everything simple.01:21
Geist|Patricki removed captives' viles01:21
Geist|Patrickfiles01:21
primado u know software gyach ?01:21
concept10Geist|Patrick, captive - what?01:21
charlescrimsun: no change, sound still comes out mostly garbled and at a higher pitch01:21
PrimoTurboDoes anyone know how I can remove the doom3 demo from my ubuntu system?01:22
crimsuncharles: ok, are you using esound?01:22
eriscoyes i have a static01:22
PrimoTurboI have no idea how to uninstall or remove something that I installed without apt-get01:22
erisco.tk is asking for my site's url01:22
Geist|Patricknow i tried to resotre the fstab01:22
eriscoso obviously that is my server's ip?01:22
robertjwhat's the closest equivalent to cloneCD available? I've got some games that I want to take with me on the road but don't want to worry about getting my disks b0rk01:22
Seveaserisco, try that01:22
toad3030how do you enable 3D Acceleration?01:22
Geist|Patrickbut i dont know what i can change there savely01:22
Seveasit might work01:22
eriscookay01:22
Geist|Patrickrestore01:22
charlescrimsun: I don't believe so, alsa is selected in the multimedia selector01:22
JaZYLNXn3b robertj01:22
robertjJaZLNX: err k3b you mean ;)01:23
JaZYLNXyeah01:23
JaZYLNXk3b01:23
SeveasGeist|Patrick, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/855 was your fstab, right?01:23
robertjany gnome utils?01:23
crimsuncharles: ok, please go to System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Sink01:23
Geist|Patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/851 <-- thats it01:23
Geist|Patricksome other guys in another rooms already tried to help me01:23
PrimoTurboCan someone please tell me how to remove the doom3 demo01:23
Geist|Patrickbut they were not sue about that01:23
SeveasGeist|Patrick, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/85601:24
Seveaschange it to that01:24
Seveasand run the script i gave01:24
robertjor JaZY: how does that differ from a normal disk copy with dd01:24
Geist|Patrickok.. how do i run the script?01:24
Seveassudo bash winmac_fstab01:24
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Geist|Patrickah... i see01:24
charlescrimsun: there is no default, only ESD, Alsa, Oss, autodetect and custom01:24
Geist|Patricki copy it to /bash i guess01:25
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tdmgyhey guys, I'm trying to install Wine on my 64bit system, can someone please help me out?01:25
crimsuncharles: the Output should be "Custom", and the Pipeline should be "alsasink device=plughw:0,0"01:25
eriscoshoot, someone already has that ip address01:25
eriscowould apache just have a default one?01:25
Seveaserisco, what is your ip address?01:25
eriscowell regardless i need to change it!01:25
erisco127.0.0.101:25
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Seveaslol :)01:26
eriscofor my server01:26
Seveasthat's only local :)01:26
Seveasyou have another ip address01:26
eriscohrmph01:26
eriscoyou mean my gateway??01:26
PrimoTurboCan someone pls help me (noob here) trying to remove the doom3 demo I go on this computer01:26
Seveas127.0.0.1 always points to the pc you are at01:26
charlescrimsun: alright01:26
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Seveaserisco, oh, you are on a shared internet connection?01:26
eriscoyou bet ya, about a 10 computer network01:26
SeveasPrimoTurbo: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.01:26
robertjSeveas: that's a neat script, winmac_fstab01:26
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Belutzthere's no place like 127.0.0.1 :)01:27
charlescrimsun: ok01:27
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Seveaserisco, you will need to forward port 80 in the router to your machine01:27
patrickjhey I got a problem lol, my cideo card is an Asus Radeon 9200(ATi VPU), what ATi drivers should I use, and where can I get em?01:27
eriscolelutz, lol01:27
Seveasotherwise it will not work01:27
eriscobelutz, lol01:27
PrimoTurboSeveas: Sorry about that but I'm a presistent noob.01:27
mjrpatrickj, you can probably get along with the default free drivers01:27
robertjSeveas: any reason it doesn't look for fat16 as well?01:27
PrimoTurboI wont repeat it again01:27
eriscothe router of my machine? or just our router?01:27
Seveasrobertj, why would it?01:27
robertj(not that I know anyone who uses it but, is there any reason not to?)01:27
patrickjmjr: the ones already installed?01:27
crimsunpatrickj: please follow the directions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto if you want hardware-accelerated 3D01:27
PrimoTurbopersistent*01:27
Seveaserisco, the router that is sharing the connection :)01:27
eriscookay so i am calling that our router =)01:28
cs378has anyone here used airsnort?01:28
TrixseyI'm having a problem in Ubuntu! I cant access root! (Even though I have correct password, always worked untill today!)01:28
Seveasrobertj, no one really uses it anymore01:28
JaZYLNXya and kismet01:28
eriscookay okay, well for that the firewall is still malfunctioning01:28
robertjSeveas: I know, but would it cause any problems?01:28
mjrparabolize, yes; it supports 3d acceleration for <=9250. If you wish, you can experiment with the fglrx driver, see crimsun's url.01:28
eriscoshould be up today though01:28
SeveasTrixsey, how are you trying to 'access root'01:28
eriscothen the router should be friendly again01:28
Seveasrobertj, no, I just was too lazy to copy in lines for fat16 :)01:28
eriscobut i will see if i can bypass that01:28
TrixseySeveas,  root terminal01:28
cs378how do we check to see if we have 3d acceleration support?01:28
TrixseyAnd I cant update stuff through update manager either01:28
erisconow when i forward it, does it make sense if i ask where to forward it to?01:29
cs378fglrxinfo?01:29
TrixseySays "Child terminated with 1 status"01:29
SeveasTrixsey, open a normal terminal and type: sudo echo hi01:29
Seveassee what that says01:29
crimsuncs378: glxinfo|grep direct01:29
cs378crimsun, ok thx checkin now01:29
Trixseytrixsey@Trixsey:~$ sudo echo hi01:29
Trixseysudo: must be setuid root01:29
Seveaserisco, it will need to forward it to your machine01:29
robertjSeveas: its really neat, but I sure hope something better comes along01:29
eriscoto my local ip?01:29
charlescrimsun: something got messed up after that change, it seems the sound is locked now even after restarting alsa. I think i'm going to just restart01:29
eriscookay cool01:29
SeveasTrixsey, you must have done something REALLY weird01:29
eriscoi can do that easy01:29
patrickjlol I tried cat /proc/pci and it said it didnt exist, and in there it says your card has to be 9500 or up :/01:29
Seveasrobertj, for breezy there will be a gui :)01:29
tdmgyanyone out there who can help me compile Wine on my 64bit machine within the 32bit achitecture? I have no clue where to start :(01:29
cs378direct rendering: Yes01:30
cs378wo0h0o001:30
PrimoTurboHow do I change the gnome foot near the Applications into the ubuntu logo?01:30
eriscoso then i put in .tk my gateway ip for my server's location?01:30
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Geist|Patrickis it possible to write ntfs with kernel 2.6?01:30
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eriscoi mean my websites location?01:30
SeveasPrimoTurbo, not :)01:30
crispynix-v6tdmgy: look into cross-compiling with gcc01:30
dTkhi. help me pls. what's the name of the jre package under ubuntu hoary?01:30
SeveasGeist|Patrick, no01:30
crimsunGeist|Patrick: not natively01:30
Geist|PatrickSeveas: ur script worked01:30
robertjSeveas: what determines whether something gets automounted or not?01:30
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parabolizemjr, what?01:30
Seveasrobertj, /etc/fstab01:30
Amaranthpatrickj: With a Radeon 9200 you should already have 3D acceleration, no extra drivers needed.01:30
Geist|Patrickwell why is ur script saying followiing?01:30
Seveasrobertj, and for removable devices: hal+hotplug01:30
PrimoTurbonot what?01:30
Geist|Patrickpatrick@agamemnon:~$ sudo bash '/home/patrick/Desktop/winmac_fstab.txt'01:30
Geist|PatrickPassword:01:30
Geist|PatrickBy default the disks will be writable only by root and01:30
Geist|PatrickPatrick Kayser (patrick)01:30
Geist|PatrickDo you want to make the disk writable by all users instead? (y/n)01:30
Geist|Patrickn01:30
patrickjAmarant: okay ;lol01:30
robertjSeveas: I meant, why do internal drives not get hotplugged?01:30
Geist|PatrickNTFS drives will be mounted read-only!01:30
Geist|PatrickAll windows and mac partitions will now be mounted every time you boot01:30
Geist|PatrickYou do not need to reboot, the partitions are mounted now too01:30
Geist|Patrickpatrick@agamemnon:~$01:31
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patrickjhmmm01:31
TrixseySeveas,  I didnt do anything... it worked when I went to bed.. now I tried and it didnt work! :-( Though I was real drunk yesterday =/01:31
SeveasGeist|Patrick, DO NOT paste in here!01:31
ryanpgI read the topic... but... are there breezy live cds for x86 around just to try?  I only find amd64 torrents and ISOs01:31
cafuegoGeist|Patrick: Thank you for not pasting.01:31
patrickjhow can I resize my main partition?01:31
crimsundTk: please download a JRE from Sun/IBM/Blackdown, then install the 'java-package' deb from universe. Use the program 'make-jpkg' to create a deb from the JRE tarball you downloaded.01:31
Seveasrobertj, because that only works for real hotpluggable devices01:31
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eriscookay well at least i am not the only one pasting01:31
dTkok thanks01:31
Geist|Patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/85701:31
Geist|Patricksry, i forgot01:31
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SeveasGeist|Patrick, that is expected output :)01:32
crimsundTk: sorry, 'java-package' is in multiverse, not universe.01:32
eriscoseveas, so when i forward port 80, in .tk, i put i my gateway's ip as the location of my website?01:32
Seveasyour drives sre now mounted in /media01:32
robertjhow does it know if a SATA drives is internal/external?01:32
Geist|Patrickok... reboot01:32
Seveaserisco, yes, you can simply use brisco.kent.net01:32
Ultraliskhi there :)01:32
Seveas(that is your hostname as your IRC client sends it)01:32
eriscoum..... how did you know that?01:32
TrixseySeveas,  so what do I do? Is there any salvation in sight for me? :-(01:32
SeveasGeist|Patrick, read carefully01:33
SeveasGeist|Patrick, you do NOT need to reboot01:33
eriscoanywho01:33
erisco.....01:33
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Amarantherisco: http://216.8.167.140 should also work01:33
dTkok, np01:33
eriscoamaranth, why would that work?01:33
eriscowhat is that the ip to?01:33
patrickjhow can I install apache, Mysql, php and stuff like that in ubuntu?01:34
SeveasTrixsey, if sudo is no longer setuid root, you must have done chown on lots of things you shouldn't01:34
Amarantherisco: That's the IP to your router.01:34
patrickjand I will prolly need a graphical manager for them all lol01:34
patrickjgraphical part not too important01:34
eriscogee, am i completely exposing myself over this chat?01:34
Seveaspatrickj, sudo aptitude install libapache2-mod-php4 php4-mysql mysql-server01:34
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patrickjbut is there a server package for ubuntu?01:34
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eriscomaybe this isn't safe at all01:34
Seveaspatrickj, and download phpmyadmin for mysql administration :)01:34
linlintype "server" on bootup of the install cd01:34
patrickjSeveas: dont have aptitude on yet, shhould I ge tit?01:34
Amarantherisco: You're completely exposing yourself going to a website.01:34
knowledge_where can I find out how to switch my sound card from using ESD to Alsa?01:34
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eriscooh shut up i know that =p01:34
BelutzSeveas: you forgot the apache itself ?01:34
MacUsrHello. I am having trouble installing Ubuntu01:34
SeveasBelutz, that'll be dragged in as a dependency :)01:35
cafuegoknowledge_: hint: esd is using alsa too01:35
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knowledge_mac what's the problem01:35
BelutzSeveas: ic, :)01:35
eriscotoo bad you don't know the user or pass01:35
erisco lol =p01:35
eriscoanyhow01:35
Amarantherisco: The only port open on your machine is port 80 anyway.01:35
eriscocan i have a solid answer, can i put in my gateway's ip?01:35
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knowledge_cafuego, I see, that's odd because when I try to switch it using that multimedia selector, it doesn't let me test output. And my audio program isn't working right01:35
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eriscoyes i know that too01:35
Amarantherisco: I don't understand the question.01:35
eriscohnce my server01:36
Seveaserisco, yes you can :)01:36
eriscookay okay thanks!!!01:36
eriscoi can actually carry things on now01:36
MacUsrI downloaded the install ISO and burned it on a CD. I have an external HD. I want to install Ubuntu on the external HD.01:36
crimsuncharles: any luck?01:36
SeveasAmaranth, part of a longer discussion regarding hostnames :)01:36
cafuegoknowledge_: Are any snd-* kernel modules loaded? Thsoe are alsa ones.01:36
eriscothanks amaranth for your help01:36
robertjSeveas: did you see my question about differnetiating between internal/external SATA?01:36
knowledge_lsmod | grep alsa?01:36
Seveasrobertj, nope01:36
eriscoand seveas, you are truly a great person. Helping everyone like this01:36
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eriscomiricale maker01:36
Seveasrobertj, repeat it please01:36
eriscoc ya01:36
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patrickjSeveas: what about server administration?01:36
Seveaspatrickj, define 'server administration'01:37
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robertjSeveas: basically, does it even know if an external SATA drive is SATA or just that it is USB mass storage. If you set it up to automount as your root, pull it from the enclosure and put it inside, will it still automount01:37
charlescrimsun: different... the initial bongos and startup sound worked (i'm not even sure whether or not that was working earlier)01:37
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robertj(asuming its doesn't contain /boot or MBR of course)01:37
MacUsrI downloaded the install ISO (not live CD) and burned it on a CD. I have an external HD. I want to install Ubuntu on the external HD.01:37
Belutzpatrickj: you could install webmin i guess01:38
crimsuncharles: what are your settings in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Sink?01:38
JaZYLNXshouldn't be a problem if your machine boots form it..01:38
patrickjBelutz: umm...01:38
JaZYLNXfrom*01:38
Slipaway172i just bought a lcd monitor and it is rated for 75hz and ubuntu will ONLY allow 60hz? either how can i change it to 75hz or will it damage a monitor?01:38
patrickjalso where is all my apache stuff located, like htdocs etc.01:38
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TrixseySeveas,  think I should re-install? =///01:38
grogoreohi01:38
Seveasrobertj, pmount checks the /proc/ fs to see whether a drive is removable. see man pmount for the details01:38
Belutzpatrickj: you could do that using webmin01:38
grogoreocan you run jack and also at the same time?01:38
grogoreo&alsa01:38
grogoreo*alsa01:39
chicagotechi thought webmin didn't work with ubuntu because of the root thing?01:39
crimsungrogoreo: alsa's already running. You need to stop esd if you want to use jackd.01:39
Seveasand aoutomaount as in fstab works by drive designation. change cable layout and you might f*ck it up01:39
charlescrimsun: I just change it to: alsasink device=plughw:0,001:39
ryanpggrogoreo, jack and alsa are different things... jack uses alsa as a backend01:39
Seveasaoutomaount....01:39
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charlesis there a particular program I should be using to test this?01:39
patrickjBelutz: is it a GUI program?01:39
crimsuncharles: there's a Test button01:39
ryanpgI find that http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily-live/current/ is populated with torrents for amd64 only... is there ar reason for that?01:40
JaZYLNXMacUsr,  i was talking with you.. if your machine will boot off of the extern you shouldn't have a problem01:40
Belutzpatrickj: it's a web based application01:40
grogoreoif i were to stop esd and use jackd, would this affect any of my other apps like Totem, VLC etc01:40
charlesit seems like .wav's are working in beep-media player now (with alsa sink or the sink you sent me)01:40
patrickjand how can I access webmin?01:40
ryanpggrogoreo, jackd is not a replacement for esd01:40
Seveasryanpg, the torrent tracker usually doesn't work :)01:40
Belutzpatrickj: webmin = web administration01:40
MacUsrI am not saire how to boot off the externa;01:40
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JaZYLNXinstall it.. then use your ip.. in webbrowser01:40
charlesthat says "failed to contruct pipeline for 'Custom' "01:40
cafuegoand/or roothole-o-rama01:40
patrickjBelutz: okay, where can I access it?01:40
crimsungrogoreo: depends how those programs are configured. There's no working jack plugin for gstreamer yet.01:40
Seveascafuego, :)01:40
ryanpgSeveas, heh... well do you know where a breezy x86 torrent is? with the gnew gnome of corse :)01:40
cafuegopatrickj: Did you install it? Check its docs.01:40
Belutzpatrickj: you can control mysql server, apacher server, even samba server from there01:40
robertjSeveas: will express mount those drives by default?01:41
crimsuncharles: lsof /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp*01:41
Seveasryanpg, breezy will not install with GUI at the moment...01:41
cafuegoryanpg: Breezy is broken. Don't install it (it will fail).01:41
Seveasrobertj, 'express'?01:41
robertjUbuntu Express01:41
JaZYLNXbreezy ? new ubuntu01:41
ryanpgcafuego, ty... of course I'm looking for a live cd so no worries about installing01:41
Belutzpatrickj: use synaptyc and search for webmin01:41
majicis there any tricks to get pbuilder to create the chroot env? I keep getting errors that tell me to add my cdrom using apt-cdrom and I've done that and pbuilder refuses to build the chroot env.01:41
SeveasI don't know a lot (practically nothing) about that project....01:41
patrickjBelutz: already installed ti01:41
grogoreocrimsun, you say stop esd, and ryanpg, you say jackd is not a replacement for esd, so if i were to stop esd and use jackd would I only be able to use jack programs like aurdour01:42
ryanpgjackd btw, will never be a general sound server daemon... not if the developers have anything to say abou it01:42
charlesesd, esd, mixer-app and beep01:42
cafuegoryanpg: I suggest you go with one that works (ie: Hoary)01:42
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ryanpgcafuego, eh... I'm just interested in playing with gnome 2.11.9001:42
desrtthe topic needs to go back to saying "don't install breezy"01:42
crimsungrogoreo: correct.01:42
Geist|Patrickah thx guys01:42
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Seveascafuego, but gnome 2.12 is sooo making me want to switch :)01:42
Geist|Patrickthe mounting worx now :)01:42
cafuegoryanpg: Which part of "does not work" is unclear?01:42
r0bbymmmm could breezy be to blame for the ntfs failure?01:42
grogoreook thanks guys01:42
MacUsr***JAXyLNX*** I am not sure how to boot off the external01:42
ryanpggrogoreo, yes and you should not try this01:42
charlesit says "do not use breezy yet"01:42
desrtSeveas; gnome 2.12 has nothing new01:42
Belutzpatrickj: use your browser and point to http://localhost:10000/ if i'm not mistaken01:43
crimsungrogoreo: not many applications have jack plugins01:43
grogoreoryanpg, but if i were to have a separete install for this, it will be ok01:43
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crimsun(compared with esd/oss)01:43
Seveasdesrt, it has :)01:43
r0bbyI was using gentoo lol01:43
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desrtSeveas; nothing important :)01:43
charlescrimsun: should I kill those apps? or should i leave ESD running?01:43
r0bbyof course my gentoo install was borked01:43
crimsuncharles: oh, esd is running?01:43
ryanpgcafuego, no part is unclear... I'm explaining my motivation01:43
HrdwrBoBcafuego: yes, but they have residual pain issues; ie they need pain01:43
cafuego"it doesn't matter if it  segdaults twice a minute, it has a higher version number!"01:43
HrdwrBoBso they compile stuff they don't need :)01:44
Seveasdesrt, gtk+2.801:44
charlescrimsun: yeah01:44
crimsuncharles: go to System> Preferences> Sound and uncheck the Enable sound server startup01:44
ryanpggrogoreo, you can install jackd and have esd too no problem01:44
Seveasdesrt, better clipoard01:44
Slipaway172ive also been noticing many gentoo users do the big switch01:44
BelutzSeveas: btw, how's your weekend?01:44
ryanpggrogoreo, but you have to stop esd to use jackd01:44
Seveasdesrt, more nautilus niceness :)01:44
cafuegoryanpg: If you promise you can fix any problemsw ithout asking for help here, you're allowed to try breezy.01:44
desrtSeveas; heh01:44
charlescrimsun: done...01:44
robertjSeveas: Autodetecting NTFS disks is definately useful, OS X sucks at it and its a pain01:44
Seveasdesrt, http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/01:44
crimsuncharles: now repeat that lsof command01:44
ryanpgcafuego, I haven't a clue what you're talking about01:44
desrtSeveas; i know.  i helped write that document :P01:44
grogoreoryanpg, right so i could just have another user and when that user logs on esd could stop and jackd start01:44
crimsuncharles: esd shouldn't appear in the output01:45
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Seveasrobertj, as of breezy / gnome 2.12 aotudetection will happen :)01:45
cafuegoryanpg: Then don't use Breezy.01:45
patrickjit says the connection was refused :/01:45
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ryanpgcafuego, I'm not using Breezy! relax!01:45
robertjSeveas: so if I do a fresh install Windows will be readable?01:45
charlescrimsun: nothing is using it now... the 'test' works with a solid tone01:45
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Seveasrobertj, from breezy on: yes01:45
ryanpggrogoreo, you probably want to use qjackctl to start jackd01:45
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: with -O5?01:46
ryanpggrogoreo, jackd should not be "always on"01:46
HrdwrBoBcafuego: as a bare minimum!01:46
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patrickjah n/m it dont matter that much :d01:46
crimsuncharles: great. Now try the audio app you were using before01:46
ma3x_does ubuntu work with .deb packages or .rpm ?01:46
crimsunma3x_: .deb01:46
grogoreoryanpg, qjackctl the GUI frontend? will this stop esd for me?01:46
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: Ie been contemplating haxoring the main gentoo site and slipping a -pedantic in the default compile flags.01:46
robertjSeveas: cool, any captivefs integration?01:47
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patrickjis there a way to get .rpm's to work?01:47
crimsunma3x_: you can use 'alien' for .rpm, but you should stick with native Ubuntu packages if possible.01:47
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ma3x_how do i know if i want to install ubuntu or kubuntu?01:47
Seveasrobertj, not in ten years01:47
Seveasrobertj, captive is too outdated01:47
DeltaFWow. ma3x_ that was the exact question I had.01:47
charlescrimsun: xmms works with the OSS plugin, but not alsa. rhythmbox still has corrupt output01:47
mjrma3x_, essentially you don't, if you don't :)01:47
cafuegoma3x_: Theye the same thing. just pick one.01:47
crimsunma3x_: Ubuntu comes with GNOME by default; Kubuntu comes with KDE by default.01:47
ryanpggrogoreo, you can tell it to stop esd... it provides a "execute script on startup" option that could stop esd01:47
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cafuegoma3x_: if you install Ubuntu and want KDE, just add KDE.01:47
robertjis actually fixing and testing NTFS an option?01:47
windexma3x_: do you want Gnome (Ubuntu) or KDE (Kubuntu)? They do the same thing, in diffrent ways, with diffrent licences, and diffrent philosophies.01:48
grogoreoryanpg, great thanks for your hlep01:48
Seveasma3x_, install ubuntu if you want a clean interface that just works, install kubuntu if you want the ability to configure every pixel and byte01:48
grogoreo*help01:48
ryanpggrogoreo, no problem01:48
hybrid_gothma3x_:  do you like OSX or windows GUI01:48
crimsuncharles: try this: in the XMMS output plugin's configuration, change the device from "default" to "plughw:0,0"01:48
Seveasrobertj, ntfs is proprietary01:48
ryanpggrogoreo, just don't try to run jackd all the time ok?  it will make you unhappy :P01:48
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DeltaFwindex: Are there any articles specifying differences like that?01:48
ma3x_does ubuntu support my graphic card (ati radeon igp 340M ) ?01:48
robertjSeveas: so is win3201:48
crimsuncharles: (that's the ALSA output's config, btw)01:48
cafuegoma3x_: Yes.01:48
patrickjis there any way to resize my partition safely and make a new partition?01:48
ma3x_hybrid_goth i do like it , and kde as well01:48
patrickjfor gentoo installation01:48
Seveasrobertj, yes, but the fat32 specification for instance is open01:48
windexDeltaF: i'm sure google has _tons_ of flamewars between gnome and kde people archived.01:48
ma3x_cafuego are you %100 sure?01:48
cafuegoma3x_: You *may* not get hwardware 3D, but 2D will work fine.01:49
DeltaFI just keep hearing so much about KDE. I don't want to be left behind...01:49
Seveasso drivers can be written for it01:49
Seveasthat's not the case for ntfs01:49
grogoreoryanpg, im about to use APT now to get jack. I'm presuming it will automatically start it all the time so where can I tell it not to?01:49
desrtSeveas; ah cool.  i see it made it to slashdot :)01:49
ma3x_if i install i install only for 3d01:49
robertjSeveas: oh, I thought it had just been reverse engineered01:49
DeltaFma3x_: I'm not looking for a flamewar - I'm looking for a level-headed comparison and evaluation. :)01:49
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TrixseyWhats the name of the newest windows? (Not XP, the one under construction)01:49
DeltaFer windex ^^^01:49
robertjtix: Vista01:49
DonLma3x_: I had Ubuntu and just installed Kubuntu as well. I can now boot into whichever one I want01:49
DeltaFTrixsey: Vista01:49
ma3x_hi DeltaF01:49
Seveasrobertj, the 'ntfs' driver has01:49
TrixseyDeltaF,  Windows Vista?01:49
DeltaFyes01:49
cafuegoma3x_: Try the livecd and see if 3d works (the performance wo't be particularly good at any rate)01:49
Seveasthe 'captive-ntfs' uses the actual windows drivers (ntfs.sys and such)01:49
DonLI should say Log into whichever one I want01:49
Trixseyoh they renamed it from Longhorn to Vista o_O01:50
Seveasso captive is also legally debatable01:50
DeltaFLonghorn was the "codename"01:50
windexDeltaF: when talking about "Gnome vs KDE" you will never get anything that does not result in a flamewar imho. :)01:50
ma3x_is the livecd ubuntu or kubuntu01:50
patrickjTixsecy: yes, Longhorn was the buile codename01:50
cafuegoma3x_: yes01:50
DeltaFVista is the official name.01:50
crimsunma3x_: there are live cds for both01:50
ryanpggrogoreo, no it will not start it01:50
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robertjSeveas: yeah, but if you can find that dll on a local partition, I would think you could use it, regardless of what the EULA says01:50
ryanpggrogoreo, you have to use the command line or qjackctl01:50
SeveasDeltaF, Vista is a spelling error, they should have named it Visa since it probably costs a lot aagain :)01:50
ma3x_ok i will download and boot from the livecd01:50
DeltaFIs kubuntu related in staff, or just basic philosophy..01:51
ma3x_how do i test the 3d acceleration afterwards?01:51
Seveasrobertj, that's still under investigation and will probably never be really clear :)01:51
DeltaFAnd, how difficult is it to replace gnome with kde?01:51
CarlFKhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/x11/gtranscode -  "transcode Pakage not available" - um, what is the point of a front end to something that isn't there?01:51
grogoreoryanpg, ok thanks again. I've just found out that i've allready had it installed so theres so problems anyway01:51
charlescrimsun: alright that worked as well... you are the audio expert, thanks so much. I can probably figure this one out (or not really worry about it...) would you know why rhythmbox would sound incorrect still?01:51
SeveasDeltaF, it takes 1 command01:51
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cafuegoSeveas: I heard they want people to upgrade and will keep it cheapish. US$599 for an upgrade. ;-)01:51
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SeveasDeltaF, you can even have both installed at the same time01:51
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Seveaslol@cafuego :)01:51
patrickjis there any way to resize my partition safely and make a new partition?01:51
TrixseyDeltaF,  why have a "codename"? So geeky :p01:51
Geist|Patrickweired01:52
robertjSeveas: is OS X write support based off of the same driver that Linux's is?01:52
DeltaFAnd what's the deal with x.org and the "other one"? I heard it's being replaced in Debian01:52
ma3x_how can i test the graphic 3D after booting from the live cd?01:52
mjrpatrickj, "safely" is debatable, but (g)parted01:52
Geist|Patrickkonquerer doesnt open some folders01:52
mjrpatrickj, always recommend backups before doing such operations01:52
Seveasrobertj, no idea01:52
Belutzhow do i make my thunderbird give notices if i have new mail like thunderbird in windows?01:52
DeltaFma3x_: You should be able to check the settings for it.01:52
CarlFKor more to the point: how do I install tcprobe (part of the transcode package)01:52
Geist|Patrickthe content of one is displayed, another ones not01:52
patrickjTrixsexy: because micrsoft cant think of their ow name so they waited for something to steal to popup01:52
crimsuncharles: hmm, rhythmbox uses the gstreamer sink configuration, so it _should_ work01:52
Geist|Patrickit even doenst open it01:52
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ryanpggrogoreo, you could pop over to #lad for more jackd specific help btw01:52
Geist|Patrickany idea what may be wrong?01:52
cafuegoma3x_: Start the CD, run 'glxinfo' and see whether you have opengl support.01:52
SeveasGeist|Patrick, which folder?01:52
DeltaFVista is such an over-used name. Not only do they deserve the following law suits, but they also deserve not being findable in google. :P01:53
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grogoreoryanpg, thanks again. I'm off now01:53
ma3x_ok cafuego. question no2.: where do i find packages for ubuntu?01:53
ma3x_on debian.org?01:53
Seveasma3x_, in synaptic01:53
DeltaFXP = Extreme programming.. Vista = Buena Vista? A spanish word.. etc.. :)01:53
cafuegoma3x_: No.01:53
windexma3x_: ubuntu uses apt/aptitude01:53
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Seveasma3x_, system -> admin -> synaptic (in the menu)01:53
cafuegoma3x_: Do _not_ use debian pckages on ubuntu.01:53
charlescrimsun: it sounds choppy on .ogg and .mp3 files but works okay with .wav's... mpd doesn't play a thing either. I suppose I could probably look these up online though01:53
eriscoi am back for a minute01:53
hybrid_gothvista is latin01:53
ma3x_yes, but what's the web where you can browse for packages?01:53
eriscoi deleted everything out of var/www01:53
Geist|Patrickrandom ones with animestuff01:53
Seveasma3x_, packages.ubuntu.com01:54
eriscoand put in a index.html page01:54
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Geist|Patrickthe content of some is displayed01:54
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ryanpgcrimsun, did you have him try alsasink device=hw:0,0 instead of plughw01:54
eriscobut io can only see the page from my computer01:54
Geist|Patrickothers dont open01:54
cafuegoma3x_: packages.ubuntu.com (also '/msg ubotu find <package>'01:54
erisconot any other computer on my network01:54
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eriscowhat happened?01:54
ma3x_ok, so ubuntu is not listed on most of the software pages01:54
patrickjhow can I use gparted to resize a partition in use?!01:54
DeltaFSo, not like you all are biased, but do you think ubuntu is a suitable fileserver platform?01:54
eriscoi fear i deleted something important01:54
Seveaserisco, put the output of: sudo netstat -tlnp01:54
Seveason the pastebin01:54
ma3x_when i want to download a package, what format should it be, rpm or deb?01:54
DeltaFi.e. not desktop01:54
crimsunryanpg: plughw is preferable to hw01:54
Seveasma3x_, deb01:54
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cafuegoma3x_: You use 'apt-get' to install stuff.01:54
ryanpgcrimsun, why?01:55
DeltaFBut not a debian deb. ;)01:55
Seveasma3x_, but there is a *lot* already in the repositories...01:55
crimsunit's quite rare that hw will use the correct parameters by default01:55
eriscookay stuff came up01:55
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eriscowhat exactly did you want from it?01:55
Seveaserisco, put it on the pastebin01:55
eriscosince i can't paste =001:55
Seveasall of it01:55
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crimsunplughw nearly always uses the correct parameters by default01:55
Geist|Patrickwell it looks like following01:55
Geist|Patricki click on a folder01:55
ryanpgcrimsun, huh... not in my experience... I never use plughw... guess I'm lucky01:55
eriscolink again? sigh...01:55
Seveas!paste01:55
ubotupaste is, like, Please use http://rafb.net/paste/ or #flood to paste large ammounts of text01:55
Seveasargh01:55
Seveaspaste.ubuntulinux.nl01:55
Geist|Patrickadressbar changes to the subfolders name, but i remain in the view of one folder higher01:55
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ma3x_ok thanks!01:55
Geist|Patrickthe overview01:55
Geist|Patrickwtf is going on?01:56
FranDaManneed help!! error during installaiton01:56
Geist|Patrick:/01:56
nelsongsis there a known mediacard drivers now for notebooks?01:56
SeveasGeist|Patrick, if they are large folders, it can take some time01:56
eriscowhat is the link-bin url?01:56
nelsongsfor texas instruments?01:56
eriscoi will bookmark it this time!01:56
Seveaserisco, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:56
DeltaFHey is there a php-based pastebin utility for self-hosted bins??01:56
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SeveasDeltaF, yes01:56
DeltaFGPL? Link please? :)01:56
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DeltaFor just name..01:56
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SeveasDeltaF, pastebin.com used to be gpl01:56
FranDaMancan someone help me with installing ubuntu.. i got an error01:56
eriscosent - have a look01:56
DeltaFDidn't find a link to source in there, though.01:56
CarlFKDeltaF - pastebot on sf.net01:57
Seveasyou can get the source for paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:57
unrealwhat would be a good smtpd/pop3 to use?01:57
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Seveas(just mail me for it :)01:57
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Geist|PatrickSeveas: i click on the folder's icon but NOTHING happens01:57
ma3x_but most of the sites offer binaries for debian, suse, mandriva, freebsd, slackware ...01:57
eriscoi could see the temporary page before i deleted everything and put in my own page01:57
Geist|Patrickno harddisc activiy or something01:57
SeveasGeist|Patrick, no drive activity too?01:57
Geist|Patrick else01:57
CarlFKDeltaF - check synaptic too - I think pastebot is in there01:57
Seveashmm01:57
ma3x_so if i don't see ubuntu, which of those packages do i download?01:57
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ragnarok179hey i got a really noob question that i can't find an answer too01:57
Seveasragnarok179, just ask :)01:57
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FranDaManhey guys.. i was installing ubuntu and i got an error saying boot something and it stopped it01:58
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FranDaManits after the step after paritioning01:58
CarlFKma3x_ - I think the right way is to dl the source, then make your own .deb for Ubuntu and install that.01:58
eriscoget anything from it seveas?01:58
cafuegoma3x_: Can you give me an example for such software?01:58
Seveaserisco, yeah it should work01:58
majicokay, did apt-cdrom and added my cdrom to apt. Trying to do "pbuilder create --distribution hoary" to set up the chroot env to build packages however pbuilder is still complaining that it cannot find the cdrom. Anyone have this problem? The docs on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto doesn't describe this problem01:58
CarlFKma3x_ - and then post your work somwhere so others don't have to ;)01:58
eriscowhen i go to 127.0.0.1 from another compit doesn't show anything01:58
Seveaserisco, LOL01:59
eriscopage cannot be displayed01:59
Seveasthat won't work01:59
unrealis there an apt-get package of irssi for ubuntu?01:59
Seveastry your other ip address01:59
cafuegoerisco: 127.0.0.1 is *always* localhost01:59
windexunreal: uhhh, it installed by default fo rme01:59
Seveaserisco, paste the output of ifconfig on the pastebin :)01:59
eriscookay, it workds now01:59
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ma3x_cafuego plain example, most wanted p2p package http://www.amule.org/dl/index.php01:59
Burgundaviamajic, pbuilder questions are probably better asked in #ubuntu-motu01:59
ma3x_what would you download from there?01:59
erisconah that isn't needed01:59
Geist|PatrickSeveas: any ideas what i should do next?01:59
unrealwindex: I only installed the base packages (server)01:59
eriscoit is okay01:59
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bimberiunreal: irssi-text01:59
unrealhmm01:59
windexunreal: then yes, there is one, and it's in base.01:59
ragnarok179ok i'm trying to install the ati drivers and the command is "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<your-kernel-version> xorg-driver-fglrx" but i don't know what to put in for the kernel version02:00
Geist|Patrickthats annoying.. i only can access 5% of my data02:00
majicBurgundavia, thanks02:00
cafuegoma3x_: I wouldn't download that at all <heh> but if you insist, use the debian version.02:00
Geist|Patrickabout 5 percent...02:00
SeveasGeist|Patrick, try another filebrowser (like firefox file:///)02:00
eriscoi could go to 127.0.0.1 before... i must be mistaken02:00
FranDaManhow do i install windows and ubuntu so i can dual boot?02:00
kozlykdoes anyone know why a .avi would just come up with choppy audio and no video in totem movie player?02:00
ma3x_cafuego it was only example02:00
ma3x_now what most important for me is to connect the laptop to my TV02:00
Seveaserisco, 127.0.0.1 always points to the very pc you're typing it on02:00
unrealbimberi: thanks :)02:00
cafuegoma3x_: First you _always_ check the Ubuntu archives.02:00
eriscothanks again seveas. huge favour.02:00
ma3x_is this possible, and if yes with what software?02:00
Seveasso for you it points to your pc02:00
bimberiunreal: yw :)02:00
eriscoi will remember that02:00
CarlFKma3x_ "aMule sources for the 2.0.3 release."02:00
Seveasfor me it points to mine02:00
kozlykto the best of my knowledge i have installed all the right codecs02:00
r0bbyI got dd running grabbing the partition02:00
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eriscoso 127.0.0.1=localhost?02:00
Seveasyes02:00
andy__frandaman, first install win, then linux, it will dualboot automatic02:00
robertj_Sevea: for me, it points to my wife's!02:00
FranDaManalright02:00
eriscocool02:00
r0bbyHopefully some data is salvageable :(02:01
nelsongsanyone?  is there an available TI driver for medicard reader in ubuntu?02:01
Seveaserisco, ifconfig will show you another IP too02:01
r0bby127.0.0.1= loopback02:01
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r0bbybut yes02:01
FranDaManbut i have a problem with linux installing.. it stops and gives me error02:01
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eriscomy other ip?02:01
Seveaserisco, use that one form other pc's in your net02:01
r0bby127.0.0.1 is localhost02:01
robertj_Seveas: wives are the most intrusive hackers one can have ;)02:01
andy__what error02:01
eriscowhat other ip though?02:01
Seveasrobertj_, :)02:01
cafuegoHmmmmmmcoffee...02:01
ragnarok179ok i'm trying to install the ati drivers and the command is "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<your-kernel-version> xorg-driver-fglrx" but i don't know what to put in for the kernel version02:01
Seveaserisco, if you type ifconfig in a terminal you will see it :)02:01
r0bbyyou should have another i[02:01
Geist|Patrickfile://hda5/ cant be opened02:01
r0bbyuhm yeh02:01
DeltaFIs ubuntu suitable for a fileserver?02:01
Burgundaviaragnarok179, use syanptic, it will do it for you02:01
r0bbyperhaps02:02
SeveasGeist|Patrick, that won't work02:02
HrdwrBoByes02:02
eriscothe bcast?02:02
robertj_although mine is being a good wifey today and downgrading back to hoary instead of bothering me about --force options with breezy!02:02
BurgundaviaDeltaF, yes02:02
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Seveastry file:///media/hda502:02
cafuegoDeltaF: Yes...02:02
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Seveas(if that one is mounted via my script)02:02
robertj_(quite an improvement over what's a file from 2 years ago)02:02
ma3x_does ubuntu have TVOUT application?02:02
Geist|Patrickthat doesnt work either02:02
ma3x_or how does this work?02:02
PrimoTurbohow do I copy a file from one location to another what's the terminal command?02:02
Seveasma3x_, yes02:02
DeltaFWill it do as good of a job as fedora or a more "enterprise-y" distro?02:02
ma3x_Seveas explain me please!02:02
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SeveasGeist|Patrick, then paste the output of mount (without arguments) on the pastebin02:02
Geist|Patrickah sory02:02
robertj_DeltaF: I think its ok for a file server02:02
eriscoseveas, i really can't see this other ip02:02
robertj_DeltaF: I use it for my  backup and web server as is02:03
PrimoTurbounix command to copy a file?02:03
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eriscobut i don't think it really matters anyhow02:03
cafuegoDeltaF: No, it will be far better.02:03
Seveasma3x_, it should be in your driver settings (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) and is not easy to setup02:03
theineragnarok179, uname -r02:03
Geist|Patrickthats weired02:03
manuPrimoTurbo : cp02:03
Seveaserisco, paste the output of ifconfig -a on the pastebin02:03
Geist|Patrickit lists the content of those folders02:03
Geist|Patrickbut konqueror cant access it02:03
SeveasPrimoTurbo, cp02:03
DeltaFI got a debian web server that I think I'm retiring. :P K6 400 replaced by P4 1.6gh02:03
Iceman-AMD64dang wish there were more mainstream multiplayer games for linux ...02:03
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ma3x_Seveas if it's not easy, how could i set it up?02:03
Geist|Patricki mean opera displays it02:03
PrimoTurbothank you guys :)02:03
cafuegoDeltaF: I would honestly stick with Debian.02:03
Seveasma3x_, search the wiki02:03
Seveasthere is a tvout howto02:03
eriscoi am very sorry for defying you but i do not wish to do so02:03
cafuegoDeltaF: (I _do_ in fact)02:03
ryanpgma3x_, what video card do you have?02:03
ma3x_Seveas: url of wiki?02:04
Seveaserisco, why not?02:04
robertj_DeltaF: I'm running a 10.3 Fileserver right now so I can't really talk ;)02:04
ma3x_ryanpg ati radeon igp 340 M02:04
kozlykanyone have good how-tos on setup of audio and video codecs?02:04
Seveasma3x_, wiki.ubuntu.com02:04
DeltaFReally? Why that over ubuntu?02:04
eriscoyou will have to deal with not knowing o002:04
ryanpgma3x_, short answer: no02:04
anders__day to all02:04
eriscobut anyways it only lists a bcast ip02:04
DeltaFcafuego: Didn't they make you sign the ubuntu zealot waver?02:04
eriscoas anything other than my ip02:04
robertj_BTW, OS X has a very nice Directory Services API02:04
BurgundaviaDeltaF, both Ubuntu and Debian are useful as servers02:04
DeltaF*waiver02:04
ma3x_ryanpg : no like impossible?02:04
FranDaManim getting dbootstrap error during installation.. waht do i do?02:04
Seveaserisco, without information we cannot help....02:04
cafuegoDeltaF: I'm all for ubuntu on the _desktop_.02:04
anders__www.xboks.dk is one english02:04
eriscoi know you can't02:04
robertj_DeltaF: But I think Ubuntu is just as good as Debian for a fileserver at this point02:04
BurgundaviaDeltaF, most of the Ubuntu specific work has been desktop stuff02:05
theineerisco, very strange that you refuse to paste on pastebin.com...02:05
jazzanovahow do I permanently set dma on for my dvd drive ?02:05
eriscoit isn't strange02:05
ryanpgma3x_, like the X driver doesn't have tvout for radeon... the gatos project provides drivers02:05
cafuegoDeltaF: I just find Ubuntu too new to trust my servers to. And Debian works fine, so why change?02:05
Seveasjazzanova, edit /etc/hdparm.conf02:05
theineerisco, oh yes02:05
eriscoi know you cannot help without the info02:05
jazzanovaseveas: thanks02:05
Seveaserisco, it is. we're not asking for things like passwords...02:05
eriscobut you already fixed my problem02:05
DeltaFI'm also interested in gui/web tools to help admin the box..02:05
robertj_DeltaF: I'd say if your running Ubuntu servers already, sure go ahead. If your running Debian already, pick Debian, you can always upgrade to Breezy+1 if you need Samba4 stuff or something02:05
DeltaFSamba4?? Is it out yet?02:05
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robertj_DeltaF: no, but it might be by Breezy+102:05
ma3x_ryanpg, i tried the gatos installation, it installed with success, but couldn't initialize the card02:05
eriscoc ya02:05
ryanpgma3x_, but installing gatos drivers isn't easy... and even then they don't always work... and the fact that its IGP doesn't help either :P02:05
Geist|PatrickSeveas: grml... i dont get it02:06
Geist|Patrickit seems to be konqueror02:06
Geist|Patrickwhat the hell is that crap thinking?02:06
ryanpgma3x_, there's an app that's no longer maintained... radeontool or something.... it also doesn't work :P02:06
Geist|Patrick:(02:06
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DeltaFI was contemplating Samba3 (of course) plus openLDAP as a Win Domain Controller02:06
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FranDaManim getting dbootstrap error during installation.. waht do i do?? anyone?02:06
ma3x_ryanpg sad to hear that02:06
DeltaFThough I don't need too much single-signon.02:06
ryanpgma3x_, find/file the appropriate bug with Xorg... it can be done... but no one has yet02:06
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DeltaFToo many windows boxes for that..02:07
ma3x_on kubuntu.org, from where exactly do i download the image file for installation?02:07
robertj_DeltaF: Any reason not to used a Windows box?02:07
cafuegoDeltaF: The good thing is, they can all run Ubuntu ;-)02:07
DeltaFTo be a domain controller, it needs to be a server build.02:07
jazzanovawhat are these IO_support and unmaskirq for hdparm ? do i need them on for a dvd ?02:07
robertj_DeltaF: oh, is cash an issue?02:07
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ma3x_ah i see it02:08
ma3x_what means hoary?02:08
DeltaFI also want to learn about legal, free desktop and server platforms.02:08
robertj_DeltaF: I'd love to see a step-by-step on what you do02:08
anders__how can i see dvd on my ubuntu??02:08
ryanpganders__, VLC works good imho02:08
jazzanovaanders: read the unofficial ubuntu howto02:08
kemik!tell anders__ about restrictedformats02:08
DeltaFrobertj_: Cash is partially an issue. I can't justify it for my home network.02:08
DeltaFEven if it's also my office network (for an office of 1)02:09
robertj_DeltaF: for a home network SSO is probably more trouble than its worth02:09
anders__okay how do i download that ??02:09
jazzanovahttp://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback02:09
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jazzanovaanders: ^^^02:09
Geist|Patricknobody there who can help me?02:09
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anders__yep02:09
kemikanders__:  vlc is at www.videolan.org, add the debian repositories and apt-get videolan02:10
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DeltaFI agree. Perhaps someday (Samba4?) I want to be able to recommend a linux file server.. Perhaps with an Outlook compatible groupware server.02:10
jazzanovapatrick: whats the problem ?02:10
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angel12i am using hoary, and i am trying to repartition a usb disk. When i try it with fdisk, i get a message saying that i will not be able to write partition table, and cfdisk is opening it up as read only02:10
kozlykhow can you tell what kernel you are running02:10
Geist|Patrickkonqueror02:10
kozlykas in a 386 vs a 68602:10
Geist|Patricki cant figure out, why it is not opening all my folders02:10
DeltaFSo I'm torn between fedora for "trusted name" and ubuntu for philosophy towards ease of use.02:10
misfit_toykozlyk, in a term type "uname -r"02:10
ryanpgkozlyk, uname -a02:10
robertj_Deltaf: I'd recommend it now, but not as a low-maintanance SSO soluation for a small number of users02:10
Geist|Patrickand i just noticed, that i cant access the time zone02:10
jazzanovaangel: working as root ?02:10
Geist|Patrickconfiguration02:10
anders__okay thanks02:10
DeltaFAnybody see the "ease of use" changes in Gobolinux?02:10
ryanpguname -r only tells you kernel version kozlyk02:10
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ubuntu_how do i install aim??02:11
Geist|Patrickthere is request for root pass, but there is no window opening02:11
Jemtyangel12: I don't think you can have more than one partition on a USB key. Might be wrong though02:11
ryanpgkozlyk, uname -a tells 386/686 etc.02:11
jazzanovahow can i reconfigure, as in the ubuntu install, my time settings ?02:11
DonLubuntu, use gaim02:11
DeltaFI think Gobolinux has a handle on the next step in usability..02:11
ubuntu_i need to send directories though02:11
kozlykthanx02:11
ryanpgkozlyk, np02:12
ubuntu_and im havin a hell of a problem gettin my linux to see xp on the network herei n hte house02:12
kozlykanyone experienced a green screen in totem...and how did they fix it?02:12
ubuntu_gotta send like 6 gigs worth of stuff to another pc02:12
BurgundaviaDeltaF, they are the ones who seriously hacked the filesystem?02:12
kozlyki get audio02:12
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DeltaFBurgundavia: With an abundance of links, yes. :)02:12
BurgundaviaDeltaF, the key thing to remember is Mac OS X has a standard Unix file system02:12
Geist|Patrickcrap :(02:12
Geist|Patrickwhats worng with my linux02:12
cafuegoBurgundavia: Well, more or less.02:13
BurgundaviaDeltaF, changing the names of folders does nothing, IMHO02:13
DeltaFI think that Mac's .app structure is a good step in the right direction.02:13
jazzanovaubuntu: apt-get install gaim maybe ?02:13
ryanpgDeltaF, I'll agree with you there... it'll never happen on linux though02:13
JemtyGeist|Patrick: What seems to be the problem ?02:13
DeltaFBurgundavia: Tell your parent to click on /usr/local/sbin/ or /Programs. :)02:13
BurgundaviaDeltaF, the user should never see the underlying filesystem02:13
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BurgundaviaDeltaF, changing the name doesn't fix that bug02:13
DeltaFTell your parent that their digital camera pictures are on /dev/sd102:14
ubuntu_whats the easiest way to send like6 gigs worth of date to another pcon my network with windows xp installed, and i dnt have a crossove cable02:14
ryanpgBurgundavia, it would be nice if gnome provided a nautilus spatial menu though02:14
DeltaFAnd to copy them to /dev/hda102:14
Burgundaviaryanpg, say again?02:14
BurgundaviaDeltaF, no, I tell my parents to plug in the camera and follow the dialogs02:14
ryanpgBurgundavia, like one of the "places" was Programs02:14
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Burgundaviachanging the folder names is still a hack02:15
DeltaFCopy files from disks is still difficult when the naming system is even less sensible than Windows/DOS02:15
Burgundaviaryanpg, app folders in Mac OS X are actually horrible to use02:15
Will_ubuntu_: How are the 2 computers connected?02:15
ryanpgBurgundavia, eh... I like em... OSX is my favorite DE, followed by gnome02:15
cefanyone tell me what version the kernel in breezy is currently?02:15
DeltaFSingle icon installs is still the way to go.02:15
Burgundaviacef, .1202:15
ubuntu_through a router will02:15
GattonOSX just a DE? Yea I know what you meant but it just made me do a double take ;)02:16
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DeltaFThough impossible with the dependency system of linux.02:16
Will_ubuntu_: Can they both access the internet?02:16
BurgundaviaDeltaF, you can make the system completely usable without breaking the file system02:16
robertj_GE?02:16
ryanpgGatton, well if I'd have said Finder would it have sounded better?02:16
Burgundaviaala Gobo02:16
robertj_err DE?02:16
ubuntu_yup02:16
ryanpg:P02:16
goldfishdesktop enviornment02:16
robertj_OS X is an operating system, and if you approach it otherwise you will be in trouble02:16
Seveaswoohoo!! php5 has hit breezy02:16
cefBurgundavia: 2.6.12 or 2.6.11.12 ? *grin*02:16
Burgundavia2.6.1202:16
robertj_mainly, because of all those _annoying_ resource forks02:16
DeltaFBurgundavia: Not if a general user EVER has the need to look at the file structure.02:17
cefBurgundavia: thanks. hrm.. might be time to upgrade soon02:17
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DeltaFWhich, unless everyone comes with their own sys-admin, will need to happen occasionally.02:17
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patrickjello02:17
robertj_btw, for all you OS X people out there, take out /.hidden ;)02:17
ryanpgI approach OSX as a hungry monkey... I flail my arms and smash bannanas on my keyboard02:17
BurgundaviaDeltaF, the user looking at the underlying filesystem is a bug02:17
patrickji just removed my crappy sound card, and I need it to install my onboard sound into the ubuntu system, how can I do this?02:17
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BurgundaviaDeltaF, as I said, there are easier and better backwards compatible ways to fix it02:17
patrickj??02:18
DeltaFHiding it with a GUI that stops them from seeing it?02:18
DeltaFThat's called a Mac.02:18
Seveas:)02:18
Burgundaviayes02:18
ubuntu_any ideas??02:18
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ryanpgnow that the freedesktop.org menu is ubiquitous and menu editing is on the horizon... things should be better02:18
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ryanpgmenu spec that is02:18
DeltaFIt makes my job harder..02:18
Geist|Patrickhey... huhu02:18
BurgundaviaDeltaF, what does?02:18
Geist|Patrick:(02:18
Geist|Patricknobody notices me :(02:19
DeltaFBecause I can't help troubleshoot when it takes 10 steps to GET to the hidden path with the error.02:19
ADreLynxHi all *)02:19
BurgundaviaGeist|Patrick, what is your issue?02:19
ryanpgin gnome... my file manager is gnome-terminal/mc... on OSX I use the gui 99% of the time02:19
Geist|Patricki cant access certain files on a mounted ntfs harddisc02:19
Geist|Patrickkonquerer doesnt even display the content02:19
BurgundaviaDeltaF, what is boils down to is that breaking the file system is not an overall win02:19
cefanyone care to explain the "do not use breezy yet" in the topic?02:19
DeltaFAnd neither is hiding it. :)02:19
Geist|Patricki cant open folders02:19
BurgundaviaDeltaF, yes it is02:20
BurgundaviaDeltaF, because you can always access it, if you want to02:20
Geist|Patrickalthough i can watch the content of those folders with opera, the system fails to open them either02:20
Seveascef, X is broken02:20
DeltaFAt VERY least, there needs to be a merger of redundant folders..02:20
ryanpgDeltaF, I think hiding it is ok... I mean once a user gets to the point of  needing to access it... they can use the terminal or un-hide it themselves02:20
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cefSeveas: ahh.. whom should I yell at this time? daniels? *grin*02:20
BurgundaviaDeltaF, what you consider redundant?02:21
patrickjanyone know how to help me here?02:21
Burgundaviapatrickj, what is you issue?02:21
DeltaFryanpg: I do it all the time for mac troubleshooting. Getting to the Terminal app is enough of a struggle..02:21
Seveascef, daniels is working very hard on it :)02:21
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jake1ok... so how do i get Flash working on my mac running Ubuntu02:21
DeltaFIt's a waste of time just to get THERE.02:21
Geist|Patrickaaah and kde has an issue too02:21
ryanpgDeltaF, heh02:21
DeltaFBurgundavia: /bin, /usr/bin02:21
Geist|Patricki cant acces the time and timezone config02:21
Geist|Patrickroot pass request opens, but nothing happens02:21
jake1as PPC does not seem to be supported by macromedia02:21
DeltaF /sbin .. /usr/local/bin02:21
cefSeveas: heh.. I'm used to yelling at daniels.. so no difference to usual *grin*02:21
cafuegoDeltaF: Um, why don't you add it to the dock?02:21
patrickjBurgundavia: I removed my old crappy sound card and plugged my speaks into onboard sound, enabled in BIOS etc., now how can I get ubuntu to install it to use?02:21
ryanpgDeltaF, my gf now has a mac-mini... navigating that by phone is a hell of a lot easier than trying to get her to understand linux02:22
BurgundaviaDeltaF, there are very good reasons for seperating thme02:22
DeltaFcafuego: It's not my Mac. It will never be "My Mac" :)02:22
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cafuegoryanpg: <heh> My wife has a Mac mini, but runs ubuntu on it.02:22
zenroxtrying to compile xchat from cvs i have all of the deps for it to compile correctly and it hangs and errors out on the tcl plugin?? can any one help02:22
BurgundaviaDeltaF, I suggest you read about why the various binaries are seperated into 4 different dirs02:22
Will_If I had a girlfriend I'd buy her a mac. I might just skip the girlfriend bit and buy MYSELF a mac, thinking about it02:22
DeltaFGot a link?02:22
ryanpgcafuego, well I love MY girlfriend :P02:22
robertj_Will: i'd recommend not02:22
cafuegoDeltaF: The owner doesn't need to know it 1) has a second user account and 2) runs ssh02:22
jake1anyone know how to get Flash on my mac running Ubuntu02:22
Burgundaviapatrickj, ouch, sorry no idea02:22
Geist|Patrickso hay anyone an idea what may be wrong on my site?02:22
cafuegoryanpg: Mine INSISTED02:23
Will_zenrox: Why are you compiling it from cvs, I wonder?02:23
Will_robertj_: Why?02:23
patrickjWill_: A mac IS like a girlfriend, in some ways02:23
robertj_Will: If your ok with PPC, then the Mini & iBook are OK02:23
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zenroxWill_, just s&g02:23
cafuegojake1: "not"02:23
ragnarok179trying to install ati drivers on ubuntu need some help02:23
Will_patrickj: Will it make me coffee for breakfasts?02:23
robertj_But they are overpriced, more ps, prone to hardware failure than PCs these days, etc02:23
Will_s and g?02:23
ryanpgwell... anyway goodbye all... time for dinner02:23
robertj_And although every app will surely come out in a Fat Binary, you can be sure it will be time to pay yet again for an upgrade02:23
patrickjWill_: if you program it right02:23
cafuegorobertj_: No, they're not.02:23
DeltaFcafuego: I only touch a Mac when it already has a problem. :)02:23
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robertj_Cafuego: not what?02:23
zenroxWill_, its inapropate for here02:23
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cafuegorobertj_: Theye not overpriced. i have yet to find a decent value 12" 1024x768 PC laptop02:24
ragnarok179can someone help me with installing ati drivers???02:24
robertj_Cafuego: I've got a 14" I'm happy with. Is that too big?02:24
Burgundaviaragnarok179, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:24
patrickjcafuego: good luck with that02:24
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cafuegorobertj_: if I want a 12" then yes, a 14" is too big.02:24
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robertj_Cafuego: Well then, I dunno. The Vaios get down to that price when they go on sale02:25
Geist|Patrickah.. timezone is fixed02:25
Geist|Patrickreinstalled ktimer :)02:25
robertj_Cafuego: I like my Gateway, it was $350 after rebates02:25
cafuegorobertj_: Not in Australia they don't.02:25
jake1cafuego: what?02:25
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jake1not?02:25
jake1not what?02:25
cafuegojake1: "not"02:25
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robertj_(including $21 for me to upgrade the ram myself)02:25
jake1oh the program02:25
jake1lol02:25
kozlykcan someone give me a hand getting divx avi working02:25
cafuegojake1: flash isn goign to run on ubuntu PPC. Don't even bother trying.02:25
Burgundaviakozlyk, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:25
robertj_cafuego: the 12" iBooks are an exception though, I do see your point there02:26
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robertj_the 14" is a good laptop too, I've got one from work, its just not worth the cash unless you want to run OS X though02:26
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patrickjrobertj_: I have a 15" Powerbook and its like god to me02:26
cafuegorobertj_: it's easy enough to get cheap 14" laptops, but the PC ones get more expensive when they get smaller, whereas the iBook is *cheaper*02:26
DeltaFpatrickj worships silver and white plastic..02:27
robertj_cafuego: yeah, its just too small for me though, so I just didn't deal with it.02:27
DeltaF"mmm. Shiny god"02:27
Burgundaviapatrickj, cafuego robertj_ can you take the mac talk elsewhere?02:27
patrickjDeltaF: no I worship the PPC for webdesign02:27
robertj_burgundavia: its hardware talk02:27
cafuegorobertj_: I like it far better then the coffin-sized HP i got <heh>02:27
Burgundaviarobertj_, it is not relevant ot ubuntu02:27
patrickjBurundavia: sorry ..02:27
robertj_Burgundavia: its actually very relevant02:27
robertj_want to have a machine that works right with Ubuntu? Buy the right hardware to begin with02:28
patrickjcan anyone help me with the sound card thing though?02:28
jake1cafuego: well that just sux02:28
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cafuego(to get back on topic, the coffin-sized HP runs ubuntu)02:28
tkieselCan a user be a member of more than one group on a Linux System.02:28
jake1why doesn't it02:28
Burgundaviatkiesel, yes02:28
robertj_To get back on topic, my G5 still isn't happy in Dual Head these days02:28
cafuegorobertj_: yes, the mac Mini runs Ubuntu very nicely. far snappier the  OSX tiger.02:28
robertj_actually, as of a week ago its not very happy at all with X ;)02:28
tkieselBurgundavia: How?02:28
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Burgundaviatkiesel, all users have a primary group02:29
Burgundaviatkiesel, just add them to the group02:29
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DeltaF /etc/group02:29
tkieselBurgundavia: *nods* Know the command I need to use?  I can read the manpage for syntax.02:29
patrickjhow can I get ubuntu to auto-config my sound card?02:30
patrickjbecause I changed the card02:30
Burgundaviatkiesel, usermod02:30
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crimsunpatrickj: from what to what?02:30
HaroldHow do I list all the packages installed on my system?02:31
crimsunpatrickj: if the cards are pci/usb, it's done automatically02:31
HaroldHello everyone02:31
tkieselBurgundavia: Tahnk you! :)02:31
crimsunHarold: dpkg -l02:31
patrickjAopen Cobra AW-850 POS to slightly better onboard02:31
tkieselThank, even. lol.02:31
Haroldcrimsun, Thanks02:31
crimsunHarold: or use Synaptic02:31
crimsunpatrickj: cat /proc/asound/modules02:31
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patrickjcimsun: and it will do auto?02:32
ubuntu_whats the best way to send like 5 gigs of files from ubuntu to another pc on the same home network with xp running??02:32
patrickj0 snd_via82xx02:32
crimsunpatrickj: err, that looks like [the same]  onboard?02:33
tkieselOh, and does anyone know what group Apache 2 is in using a default install from the Ubuntu repos?02:33
kozlykburgundavia: I went through that wiki.ubuntu.com/restricted website for media codecs etc, and i still have video probs, though my audio is better as i am now on the mplayer-68602:33
crimsunpatrickj: I presume it was a Via motherboard to begin with?02:33
kozlykany ideas?02:33
Burgundaviakozlyk, say again?02:34
tkieselI want to add a user or two to that group so Apache doesn't hiccup, but making some file modifications are easier for trusted users.02:34
goldfishtkiesel: apache?02:34
Burgundaviakozlyk, you need w32codecs, which cannot be mentioned on restrictedformats page for legal reasons02:34
patrickjcrimsun: MSI P4MAM2-V02:34
kozlykburgundavia: I went and did what that side said to do02:34
HaroldAnyone have a list of the largest packages on a standard Ubuntu install?02:34
BurgundaviaHarold, the whole install is about 1.8 gigs02:34
cafuegotkiesel: chown the web directory to a 3rd group, add those users to that group, give them write permission.02:34
ThewrdnrdHmm, just tried Ubuntu and I have a few concerns. Some packages seem somewhat out-of-date (I.e. CenterICQ, GAIM.) Are there newer versions of these anywhere?02:34
BurgundaviaHarold, the largest single packages are likely to be the gnoem libraries, the OO stuff and X02:35
HaroldBurgundavia, Exactly.  I want to remove some of the largest packages I don't need.02:35
kozlykburgundavia: I have w32codecs included as well02:35
HaroldBurgundavia, Thank you02:35
tkieselcafuego: That won't mess with Apache writing to the web directory?02:35
cafuegotkiesel: Do you _need_ apache to write to that dir?02:35
BurgundaviaHarold, almost nothing is installed by default is unneeded02:35
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HaroldBurgundavia, I've removed OO, but not all the gnome libraries.02:35
Geist|Patrickbye02:35
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BurgundaviaHarold, what DE are you running02:35
tkieselcafuego: Yeah. It needs to be able to write a few files in there.  (Running a Mambo server)02:36
HaroldBurgundavia, I'm using xfce4 instead of gnome; can I safely removed the gnome libraries?02:36
patrickjcimsun: any idea how to install the card into config or whatever?02:36
HaroldBurgundavia, DE?02:36
HaroldBurgundavia, Developer environment?02:36
cafuegotkiesel: Ok, then chown www-data.newgroup and chmod 2775 the dir.02:36
BurgundaviaHarold, some, synaptic will scream at you02:36
HrdwrBoBdesktop environment02:36
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cafuegotkiesel: apache 9as user) can write and the users (as group) can write.02:36
bimberils /var/www02:36
HaroldBurgundavia, Ah...I'm using xfce4.02:36
jasoncohenHarold, why not do a server install and then install whatever else you need?02:36
BurgundaviaHarold, synaptic will stop you from removing those that are necessary02:36
tkieselwww-data.newgroup?02:36
cafuegotkiesel: And the group perms will be kept due to the setgid bit.02:36
kozlykburgundavia: i am trying a movie in avi w/divx02:36
Burgundaviakozlyk, w32codecs and totem-xine has never presented a problem for me02:37
cafuegotkiesel: Yes, newgroup being the new group you can add the suers to.02:37
HaroldBurgundavia, Will apt-get scream at me too?  (I prefer using apt-get if possible.)02:37
jasoncohenBurgundavia, he can remove anything that's not "required" - he cant' remove libc6. he can remove gnome libraries02:37
kozlykburgundavia: the movie info in totem player says: ISO MPEG-4 (XviD, ffmpeg)02:37
kozlykyet i get the wonderful green screen02:37
tkieselcafuego: Ahhh. Nice.  Thank you very much. :)02:37
Haroldjasoncohen, Hi there.02:37
jasoncohenHarold, you should be able to remove most anything you want with apt-get. it'll warn you of the other stuff that's being removed but you can certainly remove gnome02:37
cafuegotkiesel: ... or make them write via webdav; so you don need a special group :-)02:38
jasoncohenHarold, you might want to start from a server install and then work from there02:38
jamesthats what i had to do02:38
Haroldjasoncohen, I'm not prepared to do a server install now; I've got a system I like.02:38
jamesmy server now works great02:38
jasoncohenHarold, the server install is very light. it just installs ubuntu-base - no X, gnome et.c02:38
Haroldjasoncohen, I'm just nearing the end of my 2GB HD all the time.02:38
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tkieselcafuego:  was that a . or a : ?02:38
BurgundaviaHarold, as long as you what you are doing, and follow what synaptic does, you shouldn02:38
Burgundaviahave an issue02:38
cafuegotkiesel: either works02:39
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HaroldBurgundavia, Sounds good.02:39
patrickjcimsun: any idea how to install the card into config or whatever?02:39
calccrimsun: around?02:39
Ohpoowhat's up all?02:39
Haroldjasoncohen, Were you jcoxon one day?02:39
patrickjdammit I just need this sound card working02:39
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kozlykshould i have the ffmpeg or the gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg? or both?02:39
jasoncohenHarold, no- i've always been jasoncohen02:39
Burgundaviakozlyk, install totem-xine02:39
ubuntu_can anyone help me with transferin files to a windows xp machine02:39
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moparfan90hello02:39
jasoncohenHarold, if you want to remove all of gnome you just need to find a core library. KDE can be removed by uninstalling kdelibs402:40
cafuegoubuntu_: Install winscp on the XP amchine and run the ssh server on Ubuntu.02:40
crimsuncalc: pong02:40
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moparfan90i have a text file with a pasword on it and dont know it. how can i open it??02:40
Haroldjasoncohen, A core library?  Not sure I understand...02:40
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ubuntu_how do i run the ssh server?02:40
cafuegomoparfan90: 'vi'02:40
kozlyki have totem-xine, but what about totem (as it isn't in there yet), or totem-gstreamer?02:40
tkieselcafuego: Gracias!02:40
cafuegoubuntu_: apt-get install openssh-server02:40
moparfan90cafuego, whats vi??02:40
tdmgyI compiled ZSNES for my system, but it isn't working because I have a 64bit system, anyone know what I should do?02:40
cafuegomoparfan90: a text editor02:41
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moparfan90how will that help?02:41
Haroldjasoncohen, Looks like kdelibs4 isn't installed.02:41
anders__he all02:41
cafuegomoparfan90: It opens text files.02:41
jasoncohenHarold, when you installed ubuntu, a few meta packages were installed which basically contain a list of hundreds of packages that are considered a base ubuntu install02:41
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moparfan90even with a pw02:41
jasoncohenHarold, ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base02:41
cafuegomoparfan90: Or did you mean you have an _encrypted_ file?02:41
ubuntu_arite just did that, then what?02:41
Haroldjasoncohen, Those aren't required?02:41
SoulMatehey anyone here ever get the "debootstrap error" and fixed it?02:41
moparfan90maybe it is i  dont know02:41
cafuegoubuntu_: Now install winscp in XP (google for it)02:42
jasoncohenHarold, there's no easy way to uninstall all of gnome since it's made up of hundreds of packages. the easiest way is to find a library that all the other packages depend on in gnome and remove that- thus taking out everything02:42
anders__how can i get an web mail sever on the ubuntu ??02:42
jasoncohenHarold, i used kdelibs4 as an example. If you wanted to remove KDE, that's the package you would want to remove02:42
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cafuegoanders__: install an imap server, apache, php4 and squirrelmail.02:42
SoulMatehey anyone here ever get the "debootstrap error" and fixed it?02:42
moparfan90well i have the file in windows... do you know how to 'hack' the file???02:42
anders__grat thanks02:42
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ubuntu_ok brb02:42
moparfan90maybe encrepted02:42
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Haroldjasoncohen, Can I removed ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base?02:43
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BurgundaviaHarold, yes02:43
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BurgundaviaHarold, upgrading is going to be harder without them, though02:43
jasoncohenHarold, yeah- they're just meta packages- that won't help you02:43
ubuntu_do u know where i go to use ssh in linux?02:43
SoulMatehey anyone here ever get the "debootstrap error" and fixed it?02:43
cafuegomoparfan90: No, not unless you can tell me whether it _is_ encrypted and if so, with _what_.02:43
cafuegoubuntu_: "ssh user@host" from the shell.02:44
Haroldjasoncohen, Burgundavia : Looks like ubuntu-desktop wasn't installed anyway.02:44
jasoncohenHarold, try removing libgnome2.0-common02:44
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SoulMatehey anyone here ever get the "debootstrap error" during installing the base.. coz i cant install ubuntu02:45
anders__if you wont to here my internet radio i have made uder ubuntu ?02:45
kozlykwhich file is the divx codec in in synaptic?  is it libdivx4linux or some other one?02:45
jasoncohenyou're going to have to install some packages that are removed by that action- like firefox afterwards02:45
jasoncohenfirst you remove all of gnome- then install what you want02:45
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anders__than gow and look at www.xboks.dk the sight is on english02:45
Haroldjasoncohen, Burgundavia : I've just removed ubuntu-base; couldn't find package libgnome2.0-common.02:45
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AmaranthHarold: That doesn't actually do _anything_02:46
moparfan90cafuego, how can i tell if its encripted???02:46
jasoncohenHarold, don't remove ubuntu-base...it won't help you AND it'll make upgrading in the future more difficult02:46
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Haroldjasoncohen, Too late.02:46
efigyidollol@cafuego02:46
HaroldAmaranth, What doesn't?02:46
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efigyidolpats02:47
ubuntu_input into the terminal?02:47
Amaranthsudo apt-get remove --purge libgtk2.0-0 <--strips you down to just X02:47
nickrudlibglib2.0-0, actually02:47
jasoncohenHarold, sudo apt-get remove libgnome2-common02:47
cafuegomoparfan90: Lets assume it's encrypted and that you don't know with what software. There is then no way of decrypting it, so don't bother.02:47
Amaranthblebleb02:48
nickrudor, closer, anyway ;P02:48
moparfan90oo02:48
Haroldjasoncohen, I'm already root.02:48
Haroldjasoncohen, Oh, I gotcha02:48
anders__dalarax.linux.dk:8000 chek it out02:48
jasoncohenHarold, have a good look at what's being removed02:48
jasoncohenHarold, stuff will be removed that you want so you'll need to install that after everything is removed02:49
Haroldjasoncohen, Yeah, I'm looking.  Looks like it will be removing abiword, which I want to keep.02:49
airbonhello there, anyone know how to install java on ubuntu02:49
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jasoncohenthis is the problem with using meta packages to install stuff. it makes installation easy but removal isn't02:49
Haroldjasoncohen, Yes02:50
anders__grat rap music02:50
jasoncohenHarold, you should also do an apt-get clean02:50
nickrudHarold, is your disk space really restricted? That's the only reason I can see why you would really want to do this stuff, anyway02:50
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cafuegoanders__: Why are you trying to advertise a web site here?02:50
jasoncohenHarold, all the packages that you download are kept on your hd unless you remove them with apt-get clean02:50
Haroldjasoncohen, Thanks for the reminder of that apt-get clean.  Cleans the cache, right?02:50
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Icabodwhat is this channel02:50
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cafuegoIcabod: #ubuntu02:50
jasoncohenHarold, yes and apt-get autoclean just removes the old packages that have new versions available02:50
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Icabodyes i know the channelname02:51
Icabodwhats it for02:51
Haroldnickrud, Yes, very.  I have a 2GB HD, and I'm a podcaster so I like to do audio editing, which takes up some space.02:51
charlesis there a way to see which package a file belongs to?02:51
cafuegoIcabod: Check the /topic02:51
AmaranthIcabod: The topic is useful.02:51
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Cinhey, i need to exit x to install my new gfx card drivers.. what's the command to exit it?02:51
nickrudah, ok02:51
anders__hehe hell no02:51
jasoncohenHarold, you realize you can get a 160 GB HD for about $50 on outpost?02:51
NevadoCin, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop02:51
Cinthanks a lot02:51
Haroldjasoncohen, I'm extremely broke.02:51
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jasoncohenCin, no- you don't usually02:52
Haroldjasoncohen, I purchased this system at Goodwill for $60.02:52
Cinthe nvidia driver installation asks me to02:52
kapputuhi, how do I uninstall unused packages02:52
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DonLairbon: I think for Java I used the Wiki or some how-to on the Ubuntu website02:52
Haroldjasoncohen, I've also added a Wi-Fi adapter, and some RAM.02:52
jasoncohenCin, um, the nvidia drive installation is trivial02:52
ubuntu_does anyone know how to use ssh on ubuntu02:52
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Haroldjasoncohen, I'm trying to hold off on any more purchased at the moment.02:52
Cin:\02:52
charles I have a file / library installed on one of my boxes, however not on this one. Is there a way to see which package that library (or the file) belongs to?02:53
jasoncohenCin, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver02:53
jasoncohenCin, nvidia-settings is the graphical tool for the nvidia drivers. you dont' need it- it's purely optional02:53
eriscoi know i should be under the apache channel for this, but i would like to know whether to get the tar.bz2 or the tar.gz php 5.1.0 BETA02:53
Cinaye02:53
jasoncohenso is the NVIDIA-Settings.desktop step02:53
kapputuanyone know how to get rid of unused packages?02:53
CinNVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg1.run02:53
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Cinit's that02:53
jasoncohenCin, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ; sudo nvidia-glx-config enable02:54
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erisco(oh btw, how do you talk to ppl in private?)02:54
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Cini did that, but my drivers don't seem to be up to date because i've no 3d acceleration02:54
jasoncohenCin, heh, what are you doing? ubuntu has the nvidia drivers packaged already02:54
jasoncohenyou don't need to install the ones off nvidia's site02:54
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jasoncohenCin, copy this command into a terminal - "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ; sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"02:54
Cinoki02:55
jasoncohenCin, then ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X02:55
airbonhello02:55
eriscocould anyone tell me which php 5.1.0 BETA download is the best? tar.bz2 or tar.gz??02:55
eyequeuekapputu:  sudo dpkg --purge foo02:55
airbonanyone know how to install jav02:55
anders__thos some one use a antivirus and which one??02:55
airbonjava02:55
DonLairbon, did you not see my reply above?02:55
jasoncohenerisco, doesn't really matter if you have broadband. bz2 uses better compression02:55
nickrud!java02:56
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.02:56
eriscodoes it? okay i will download that one02:56
cafuegoerisco: Why can you just apt-get install php4?02:56
jasoncohen!nvidia02:56
ubotumethinks nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto02:56
cafuegocan't02:56
redtech_ok this sucks.  I jsut got my wife up and going on ubuntu when all of a sudden it "locks".  After a series of trying to login tty2 and 3 (i believe that the correct term), I restart.  I receive the following..  EXT3-fs: error loading journal02:56
DonLthanks, ubuto02:56
bramkerhello everybody02:56
eriscohuh? sorry new to the terminal02:57
anders__hi02:57
eriscowhat if i wanted php5?02:57
eriscoisn't it better to keep updated?02:57
jasoncohenerisco, is there any reason you need php5?02:57
eriscoi need php...02:57
cafuegoerisco: Judging from previous questions you've asked, you will be in for PAIN and wreck your system.02:57
bimbericharles: There's a search contents facility on http://packages.ubuntu.com02:57
andy__How can i 'link' the /mnt/music directory to localhost/music, with apache?02:57
cafuegoerisco: just use the precompiled prepackaged php4. it works absolutely fine.02:57
eriscoreally?02:57
eriscookay okay02:58
eriscoi know i am new02:58
jasoncohenerisco, then just install php4...they'll just work02:58
eriscothats why i am here asking stuff02:58
cafuegoerisco: good :-)02:58
eriscoso if i use apt-get install php402:58
jasoncohenerisco, and they'll integrate with apache2 if you want with libapache2-mod-php402:58
airbonsorry, no. thanks02:58
cafuegoerisco: apt-get install libapache-mpd-php402:58
eriscophp4 will just work with my server?02:58
eriscookay02:58
cafuegoerisco: Yep02:58
eriscowow too easy02:58
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jasoncohenerisco, you can also use synaptic to install packages02:59
overladeoh02:59
eriscoyeah i found that nifty program =)02:59
cafuegoerisco: php5 would have involved installing development files, compiling, editing config files, cursing as the install overwrote already existing files... just pain.02:59
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andy__How can i 'link' the /mnt/music directory to localhost/music, with apache? so when i surf to my site/music i can reach the files in the /mnt/music directory?02:59
eriscoE: Couldn't find package libapache-mpd-php402:59
jasoncohenredtech, did ubuntu run a check on the HD when you rebooted- did you a bar with a percentage meter saying it's checking /?02:59
Cinwoah fuck that's fast, pardon my language02:59
Cinsorted :P02:59
eriscophp5 is for experts only i guess02:59
eriscophp4 is for dummies?03:00
geronimo_hello please you french03:00
Cinzoomage graphics!03:00
RetroManandy__ - see mount --bind03:00
redtech_jasoncohen, negative03:00
cafuegoerisco: it will also be packaged, in due time.03:00
RetroManman mount03:00
eriscocool03:00
Burgundaviaerisco, php5 is now in breezy03:00
jasoncohenerisco, no- php5 just wasn't packaged for hoary. it'll be in breezy03:00
Cin*runs heavy graphics 3D screensaver as celebration*03:00
Belutzit should be libapache-mod-php4 i guess03:00
jasoncohenredtech, ok, where are you now?03:00
cafuegoerisco: No, it's essentially the same thing, just a higher version number.03:00
Belutznot mpd03:00
eriscobut as i put above ^ there was an error03:00
eriscohere it is again03:00
eriscoE: Couldn't find package libapache-mpd-php403:00
cafuegoerisco: mod-php, not mpd-php403:00
Cinagh you guys rule03:00
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cafuegoerisco: mod-php4, not mpd-php403:01
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jasoncohenBelutz, libapache-mod-php4 is more apache 1.3.x, libapache2-mod-php4 is for apache 203:01
cafuegoarggghv03:01
eriscosomeone had a typo then03:01
jasoncohen*is for03:01
eriscoand it wasn't me o003:01
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cafuegoerisco: My middle name is typo303:01
redtech_jasoncohen,  booted up on phlak ATM,  ill grab my lapper and do anything you recommend =)03:01
Cinlol03:01
Belutzjasoncohen: yup i know that :)03:01
ESKILOwhat is the point of esd?  someone said you can configure alsa to use "dmix"..03:01
eriscolol03:01
madahello all ... i have a Xscreensaver issue ... anyone know much about it?03:01
Cinwhat's your issue?03:01
eriscowhen you text appears red you are private messaging me right?03:01
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eriscowell how do i private message back?03:02
jasoncohenerisco, /msg03:02
Cin./msg <user> <message>03:02
eriscoerisco, /msg03:02
desrterisco; try pressing tab03:02
Cinlol03:02
jake1i need quick math here03:02
nickrudESKILO, esd is intended to let various apps send sound streams to your hardware card simultaneously, dmix is another way to do that03:02
Velcan2someone is using my nickserv'd name :`(03:02
phixionhelp :(03:02
madaCin: well ... when xscreensaver runs for a while, it crashes xorg, and that locks up my entire system, i can't even alt+tab+F103:02
jasoncohenESKILO, esd allows multiplexing- which means that multiple programs can output sound at once03:02
erisco./msg jasoncohen did this work?03:02
nickrud!sound03:02
ubotusound is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206303:02
jake1there is a pin number that is four digits long... and you can use 0-9 only how many possible combinations are there03:02
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phixionI can't extract ANYTHING, I downloaded "unrar" I cant extract anything with that. nor can I extract anything with Archive Manager.03:03
eriscoyay!03:03
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madaCin: any ideas?03:03
desrtmada; i had that a while ago.  turned out my videocard was bad03:03
eriscoi got it03:03
gradzacjakel: 4^1003:03
redtechjasoncohen, ok lapper is here03:03
jasoncohenESKILO, you can also use ESD with ALSA which is the method you're referring to which is supposed to be better. for example, the mplayer package doesn't work for me unless i use libesd0-alsa03:03
desrtmada; it would overheat when in use and destabilise the system03:03
eriscoso that command ran through03:03
redtechgot any recommendations?03:03
jasoncohenerisco, yes03:03
geronimo_personne parle franais SVP03:03
andy__can't find mount --bind help03:03
madadesrt: i have onboard video ... intel i810 (its an old machine)03:03
eriscomy server is now php4 compatable?03:03
jake11 048 57603:04
jasoncohenredtech, boot into failsafe mode and tell me what happens03:04
desrtgeronimo_; #ubuntu-fr03:04
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eriscoi thought it would have been way harder03:04
jasoncohenerisco, yes, you can use php code on your apache2 server03:04
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eriscogee thanks03:04
jake1i'm trying to find a free dial-around service03:04
sebesthello, which package contain xmodmap onbreezy?03:04
Cinyour swap file sorted right?03:04
jake1so i can spoof my cpn03:04
phixionwhat do I need to handle rar3.0 files?03:04
andy__isn't it something with the httpd.conf and alias03:04
eriscookay next step, to install a mysql database...03:04
madaCin: swap file sorted?03:04
eriscoapt-get install msql?03:04
Cinit's not using up all memory is it?03:04
jasoncohenerisco, php is nice, i have mythweb on my apache server which heavily uses php03:05
eriscowould that work perhaps?03:05
Burgundaviaerisco, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP03:05
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airboni just wanna install the java runtime. is it the same as the JDK03:05
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madaCin: no, i run gkrellm and then erun the screensaver for a few minutes and then move my mouse to see how my system is holding up ... it seems fine, only using a little over half the ram03:05
jasoncohenBurgundavia, why does it recommend mysql 4.1 over mysql 4.0 when 4.1 is in universe?03:05
Burgundaviajasoncohen, no idea03:05
Burgundaviajasoncohen, it is a wiki page, edit it03:06
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geneo93phixion:  unrar-nonfree03:06
redtechjasoncohen, Im not sure how to accomplish that.. but it appears to be coming up.  Is there some checks I can run while in ubuntu?03:06
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jasoncohenredtech, yes- tell me when it's finished starting up03:06
dorianyone have write access to the website? found a dead link03:06
redtechsitting at login screen03:06
jasoncohenredtech, you'll want to run a fsck check on your drive and that needs to be done before you mount /03:06
eriscoso on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP if i just do the three sudo commands, my server will have a database?03:07
jasoncohenredtech, ctrl-alt-f103:07
Belutzmaybe because in mysql 4.1 already support nested select while mysql 4.0 is not03:07
redtechjasoncohen, ok03:07
Belutz?03:07
jasoncohenredtech, and login with your main account. then type "sudo shutdown -Fr now"03:07
Velcan2are there any gnome apps out there to make changing splash screens easier?03:07
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filehey im trying to use dual monitors on gnome03:07
fileon a nvidia 6800gt03:07
madaCin: any ideas?03:07
filemy main monitor is working, hooked up through dvi, my secondary monitor isnt working through the vga03:08
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redtechjasoncohen, ok rebooting.03:08
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nickrudVelcan2, not really, although you can set the proper gconf key in gconf-editor (apps/gnome-session/splash_image)03:09
phixiongeneo93, thanks, where can I get it from? It isn't in the repositories (it says it is in wiki)03:09
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Cinsorry mate, i'm new a linux, i was just interested, i'll give it a google03:09
dorihow are redirects done in the ubuntu wiki?03:10
geneo93phixion:  it maybe in universe repository03:10
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Burgundaviadori, #REDIRECT PageToBeRedirectTo03:10
redtechjasoncohen, so in the event that this box absolutley failed to start.  Would booting into any nix distro cd (phlak, knoppix) and fsck that drive?03:10
madaCin: i've been googling the hell out of it ... i've been a debian user for about 4 years and never had a problem, i read up on ubuntu and liked the idea of it, so i installed it on this old machine to try it out ... i like it, but i have a little problem :P03:10
jasoncohenredtech, yeah- i did this with the hoary live cd03:10
jasoncohenredtech, just pop it in, startup, and fsck /dev/hda03:11
Cinahh lol, have you tried #linux?03:11
redtechjasoncohen, ahh, makes sense.  So the fact that this box is now sitting at the login screen.  Its complete? Are there any logs to see if the fsck fixed something?03:11
madaCin: naw ... i don't think it is a generic issue, i've never had a problem with xscreensaver, even in the years i spent on both redhat and slackware :/03:12
jasoncohenredtech, well, did you see it run?03:12
redtechjasoncohen, yes there was a progress bar...03:12
jasoncohenredtech, didn't you see something about fsck checking your / and /home parititions03:12
jasoncohenredtech, and both when up to a 100% and were successful?03:12
redtechcorrect03:12
fileanyone use dual monitors here?03:12
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Velcan2nickrud:  do you know how to change gconf values from the command line? ... i mihgt work on little nautilus-script03:13
geneo93phixion:  you need to enable univers repo in synaptic03:13
jasoncohenredtech, then you "should" be fine. your partitions are OK.03:13
phixiongeneo93, ive done that03:13
ubuntu_does anyone know how to run the ssh client03:13
geneo93reload then03:13
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r0bbyrob@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs errors=recover /dev/hdb103:13
r0bbymount: special device errors=recover does not exist03:13
r0bbyrob@ubuntu:~$03:13
r0bbywhat's that mean :/03:13
redtechjasoncohen, great.  Thank you so very much! Once again this community has shined!03:13
crimsunyou missed -o, r0bby03:13
geneo93phixion:  its in mine03:14
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nickrudVelcan2, gconftool-203:14
SoulMateI REALLY need help.. i keep getting "debootstrap error" during installing the base.. what do i do?03:14
Velcan2kk thanks03:14
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r0bbywhere does -o go :/03:14
crimsunin front of errors=03:14
jasoncohenredtech, have you had any other problems or just that one ext3 error?03:14
redtechjasoncohen, just that one03:15
phixiongeneo93, do you mind pasting me your sources.list please? :D03:15
r0bbygot it!03:15
r0bby:D03:15
CinRe: Warning You are mixing ubuntu and debian ! (Alexis Sukrieh) ... If I try and03:15
Cinexecute it from Xscreensaver i get a flat-out crash (terminalted with ..03:15
pestilenceanybody know how to fix this error from vncserver?03:15
pestilenceFatal server error:03:15
pestilencecould not open default font 'fixed'03:15
geneo93phixion:  its to big for here03:15
Cinmada: http://draves.org/HyperNews/get.cgi/flame.html?inline=-103:15
Cin?? any help?03:15
SoulMateI REALLY need help.. i keep getting "debootstrap error" during installing the base.. what do i do?03:15
phixiongeneo93, do you have any ftp u can upload it to in a .txt file maybe?03:15
jasoncohenBurgundavia, i changed the ApacheMySQLPHP guide to install mysql-server rather than mysql-server-4.1. Most users won't need 4.1 and 4.0 has full security support03:15
phixioni dont get it though03:15
madaCin: just a minute ... lemme see03:15
fileanyone use dual monitors here?03:16
phixiongeneo93, its all enabled i dont understand why...03:16
jasoncohenredtech, well, you should probably also install the smart monitoring tools and check your drive just to make sure03:16
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r0bby:D03:16
geneo93check and see if its commented out03:16
SoulMateI REALLY need help.. i keep getting "debootstrap error" during installing the base.. what do i do? ive tried 3 times already!!03:16
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roo_whats to dance about, r0bby ?03:17
r0bbythere is a backup boot sector?03:17
jasoncohenredtech, sudo apt-get install smartmontools03:17
aruSoulMate: maybe repeat it a few more times...03:17
SoulMateit just keep popping up and wont install03:17
pestilencepossibly this bug:  http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1232503:17
pestilencebut there is no resolution03:17
Cinmada: i don't fully understand much of linux yet... so it's probably irrelevant lol03:17
kyncaniSoulMate: switch to console and look at the kernel logs with dmesg03:17
nickrudSoulMate, I'd do an md5sum on the cdrom, see if there was a write error03:17
redtechjasoncohen, installed.03:17
Cinmada: made the switch from windows to linux, heh03:17
madaCin: lol, fair enough ... i will take a look into it03:18
madaCin: good for you, i did that a few years ago and have been so happy with it03:18
madaCin: and the thing about debian and debian based distros is that once you install it once, get your base setup working ... you never have to re-install EVER03:18
jasoncohenredtech, this is a good page to use - http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Monitor_your_hard_disk(s)_with_smartmontools03:18
jasoncohenredtech, first, "sudo smartctl -i /dev/hda" to see if your HD supports SMART03:19
Velcan2nickrud:  are you familiar with gconftool-2 at all? Wondering if this looks correct: gconftool-2 --type string --set /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image "NameOfSplashImage"03:19
jasoncohenredtech, then follow the instructions on that site to run tests on your HD and see if it passes03:19
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Velcan2I guess I could just try it :P03:19
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jasoncohenredtech, "sudo smartctl -H /dev/hda" will give you an idea if it's going to fail in the imminent future03:20
Burgundaviajasoncohen, thanks03:20
jasoncohenredtech, but the other tests will give you more info03:20
jasoncohenBurgundavia, np03:20
airmikeyanyone here running openbox wm ?03:20
nickrudVelcan2, yeah, that looks ok to me (lol)03:20
ubuntu_anyone know how to set up ssh so ican send files to my windows xp computer03:21
Velcan2~_^03:21
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Bico_Finohi? i need help with intenet share. Can help me?03:21
redtechjasoncohen, says smart support avail. Overall health passed.  Ill read that site.  ty!!03:22
jasoncohenredtech, np- hope this helps03:22
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Bico_Finohu? somebody here use ubuntu to share internet?03:24
ThewrdnrdRealistically, how unstable is breezy?03:24
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robertjThew: very03:24
nickrudVelcan2, seriously, though, that jibes with my memory03:24
ThewrdnrdIs it like Debian unstable, which I ran pretty heavily without problems?03:24
robertjThew: no, its like Debian experimental03:24
Velcan2nickrud:  It works :)03:24
r0bby:D03:24
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ThewrdnrdAh, hmmm.03:25
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bramkerBico_Fino, what problem do you have with share internet?03:25
r0bbydd is god03:25
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r0bbylearn how to play with it03:25
Velcan2nickrud:  now im just figuring out how to add it to a nautilus-script ;] 03:25
r0bbyit will pleasure you in ways you never thought possible03:25
RetroManwhats the draw of breezy?  I dont understand?03:25
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r0bbyubotu, pastebin03:25
ubotupastebin is, like, at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood03:25
slylongtime no see all03:25
wolfjbHow do I get X to start with GLX everytime I login, rather than every other time I login ?03:25
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jasoncohenThewrdnrd, breezy was being developed at a much faster pace than sid. For a while sid wasn't getting any radical changes at all because testing was frozen. Once sarge released, sid got quite unstable03:25
nickrudVelcan2, just write a bash script with that line, and drop the script in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts03:26
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M509...03:26
Bico_Finobramker i want share it with another pc's, its work on server. And the clients don't work. But i can ping adress(This is not a dns problem)03:26
jasoncohenThewrdnrd, for a while- not sure if this is the case now, X didn't even work in breezy. In a month or two breezy will be in much better shape...hopefully03:26
linlinIm having trouble installing mplayer with synaptic03:26
jasoncohenlinlin, what's the problem?03:27
linlini get an error, aomething about keys03:27
ThewrdnrdOh, and CenterICQ is on version 4.13.0. Not sure how old that is, but it's probably about a year IIRC.03:27
Velcan2nickrud:  yea im making it so it checks if the file allready exists in /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/; copies it there if not; and then sets it as splash03:27
ThewrdnrdSo I'm just wondering if there's something like testing, or a source of newer packages smewhere?03:27
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jasoncohenlinlin, did you enable some unofficial repositories?03:27
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Bico_Finobramker the rule iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQUERADE. I have 2 NICs. One 192.168.0.1(local network) and another to connect the dsl03:28
Velcan2nickrud:  if i only knew how to also check if the file is an image :-\03:28
nickrudVelcan2, have you taken a look at zenity yet? It gives you some gui dialogs that might be useful03:28
Velcan2^_^03:28
vader1102ok, I cannot see any pc's on my workgroup... I have installed smb and smbfs, but this is where I am stuck any help?03:28
wolfjbif I login and type glxinfo | grep direct, if I get direct rendering: No, I logoff and login again and I'll get direct rendering: Yes. Logging off and back on again gets me direct rendering: No03:28
Velcan2yes :)03:28
Velcan2love it03:28
jasoncohenThewrdnrd, breezy will be released in october. By september it should be safe to use - at least reasonably safe03:28
Velcan2post a few wishes actually03:28
Velcan2posted*03:28
wolfjbhow do I make it always be: direct rendering: Yes03:28
wolfjb?03:28
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robertjanyone know of a good channel for grammer questions?03:29
builderis Hoary a 2.4 or 2.6 kernel?03:29
goldfish2.603:29
goldfishi think03:29
Velcan2nickrud:  Also post a wish for nautilus-scripts to get rid of the annoying 'Scripts' submenu03:29
buildertnx03:29
holycowdoes anyone know if there is a tool to adjust gamma on x11?03:30
M509I recently installed doomlegacy, but I can't fingure out how to run it... help?03:30
jasoncohen...marillat does it again03:30
jasoncohenheh03:30
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nickrudVelcan2, I can live with that: at times in the past, I've had submenu's in scripts. Over the years, I've moved away from that as gnome got more integrated03:30
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eriscohello, I was wondering how I can get into my data base with a terminal03:30
eriscoi am mysql03:30
eriscohave mysql i mean03:30
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Cinubuntu's res setting only allows up to 1024x768, but my cars capable of 1280x1024... how do i change it so i can get that?03:31
M509Can someone help me run doomlegacy?03:31
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M509please?03:31
RetroManCin - you have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file03:31
Velcan2nickrud:  yea. i have certain scripts that i want in submenus which we can create. but there are a few i would like to just have in my default right-click menu03:31
RetroMan(or XFree86-4 file, if youre using xfree86)03:32
Cini tried adding "1280" on there... but it seemed not to change when i restarted x :O03:32
Velcan2nickrud:  ones that i use more often03:32
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holycownvidia-settings package will let all those running nvidia cards to change gamma, brightness and contrast03:33
Agamottoholycow:  Yes, a minor god-send for those of us who are photo-sensitive03:33
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holycowAgamotto, hehe i am watching existenz, it's not been properly calibrated before release to production03:34
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Ohpoowoot! I did #sudo apt-get clean . Now I got 33.5gig free space instead of 33.4gig. :)03:34
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abarbaccia100MB - costs like .1003:35
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Cinclean... is that unused packages?03:35
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naliothnickrud: you sneak in here?03:35
crimsunCin: no, those are ones in the downloaded cache03:35
nickrudheh, a little here and there03:35
SquareGuywell i can say that the radeon drivers at ati's site are working much, much faster than what shipped with 5.0503:36
Cinahhh03:36
crimsunCin: "autoclean" would be the unused ones in the downloaded cache03:36
Cinso it's completely safe to do?03:36
OhpooI did both autoclean and clean03:36
crimsunOhpoo: clean implies autoclean03:36
Cinlol03:36
M509can someone helop me with getting doomlegacy to run?03:36
wolfjbSquareGuy, I'm using a Radeon 9200, but direct rendering seems to only be enabled every second time I login, have you had that problem?03:37
vader1102crimsun: I have a small question for you... I want to put my ubuntu laptop on my workgroup, I have samba and smbfs installed but that is where I stop because I don;t know what to do next03:37
SquareGuywolfjb, no i haven't had that problem.  did you use Ubuntus fglrx drivers then switch to ATI's at some point?03:37
Ohpoocrimsun, so it does both huh?03:37
Jimbobvader1102: Is it a workgroup or a full-on domain?03:38
crimsunOhpoo: clean is far more thorough03:38
vader1102workgroup03:38
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wolfjbSquareGuy, I used ATI's the entire time03:38
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ubuntu_does anyone know how to run ssh03:38
crimsunubuntu_: ssh <host>03:38
crimsunubuntu_: please see man ssh03:38
Jimbobvader1102: Ok, just edit your /etc/samba/smb.conf to set your workgroup and netbios name and off you go03:39
crimsun(unless you mean sshd, in which case you want to man sshd)03:39
Ohpoocrimsun, cool03:39
Cinoh yeah, so if i add "1280" to my xorg.conf and restart x it should allow me to set my res to that on the menu, right?03:39
wolfjbSquareGuy, doh, actually I only thought I was using them, I seem to have ubuntu's version installed03:39
spartasubuntu_, if you mean sshd, you will need to apt-get install sshd03:39
SquareGuywolfjb, okay well that isnt it.  i used the ones from Ubuntu then switched and Ubuntu decided to leave a copy of its fglrx laying around.  I had to manually remove it03:39
crimsunspartas: openssh-server, please.03:39
ubuntu_yea i did tha already03:39
naliothubuntu_: the sshd package is actually called "openssh-server"03:39
wolfjbSquareGuy, thanks, I'll give that a try03:40
SquareGuywolfjb, well i can say that ATI's work.  its about a 35mb dl for the .run file03:40
mobusI installed doomlegacy on ubuntu, but I can't seem to get it to run.  Can someone help me with this?03:40
SquareGuywolfjb, watch for this03:40
fileanyone know about using 2 monitors in gnome?03:40
Agamottomobus:  Do you have the data files?03:40
Bico_Finosomebody here use ubuntu to share internet?03:40
mobuswhat data files?03:40
AgamottoThe data files for the levels03:40
mobusI got it from the package manager03:41
spartascrimsun, sorry, i meant to type just ssh, which depends on openssh-server03:41
AgamottoThe engine is open, but you need level data to create a game03:41
ubuntu_ah im lost, all im tryin to do is send files from a ruined xp install towtwork anotherpc on my net03:41
ubuntu_trying to send 5 gigs of files to an xp box on my network03:41
mobusok... where can I get the level data?03:41
mobusand why don't I get an error messge when I type #doomlegacy?03:42
SquareGuywolfjb, uninstall what you have with synaptic then make sure there are no fglrx files anywhere in /lib/modules.  make sure to have kernel headers installed, run ati's .run file the make sure to goto /lib/modules/fglrx and compile/install the module03:42
naliothubuntu_: use gftp, it has ssh built in03:42
Agamottoubuntu_:    On the machine you want to send from - ssh, find the name or ip of the machine you want to send to, and go03:42
Agamottomobus:  You pull it from the game cds, or from mod sites that have created their own03:42
Amaranthsounds like he wants samba03:43
SquareGuywolfjb, and also make sure to backup xorg.conf in case you use fglrxconfig and it pooches it.  i would manually edit it03:43
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AgamottoAmaranth:  Yeah, but Samba can be too complicated for beginners03:43
mobusok, but how do I pull up the program in the first place? and where would I put the WADs?03:43
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ZeroblitztHey all, I tried Ubuntu yesterday, decided I loved it and installed it. I have a problem though. Totem video player doesn't play .mpgs for some reason (always gives me an error) and I installed MPlayer, and its playing videos at 3x speed and with no sound. Anyone know of a fix?03:44
flarg3hello03:44
wolfjbSquareGuy, great! thanks for the help03:44
flarg3have you installed all the right codecs?03:44
mobus...03:45
Agamottomobus:  You must have the data files before the program will do anything03:45
SquareGuywolfjb, np i have had a lot of pain in the past with ati and linux hehe.03:45
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wolfjbSquareGuy, yeah, unfortunately, so have I03:45
AmaranthAgamotto: and installing an ssh server on winxp isn't?03:45
Zeroblitztflarg3 --> with Mplayer, I installed the "essential" codecs package03:45
mobusok.  but when I call the program, it'll give me an error message about not having WADs, nmot an error message about bash not being able to find it03:45
ZeroblitztI havent installed any codecs for Totem though, im running off of whatever came with the default package03:46
Agamottomobus:  As far as where to put the WADs, read the manual for LegacyDoom03:46
mobusit says bash can't find the program in the first place03:46
mobusand where is that manual?03:46
SquareGuywolfjb, i have actually considered spending 300 to switch over to nvidia on this laptop ;(03:46
flarg3Zeroblitzt ->mmm, goto ubuntuguide.org and find the section about codecs. Try installing some. I wouldnt recommend much else of that guide though...03:46
godzirraIs there a way to tell vim to indent html correctly? (i.e. tables, td's, and tr's are indented?)03:47
wolfjbSquareGuy, I've thought about it for my desktop too, just because of the driver issue03:47
Zeroblitztok, thanks, will do03:47
AgamottoAmaranth:  I haven't bothered with much under XP.  I have it for games, and that is about it03:47
flarg3no probs03:47
wolfjbSquareGuy, I just don't have an extra $300 (or whatever:) to spend on a new card right now03:47
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mobuswhere is the legacyDoom manual/03:47
OhpooAgamotto, same here but I think i'm done with games now03:47
godzirrayou can find an nvidia 6200 now for $10003:48
Cini kicked x's behind03:48
Cin^__^03:48
Agamottomobus:  google legacydoom03:48
benplaut!find legacydoom03:48
SquareGuywolfjb, i hear ya03:48
nickrud!info doomlegacy-sdl03:49
ubotudoomlegacy-sdl: (A port of the Doom engine that supports OpenGL), section multiverse/games, is optional. Version: 1.41release-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 429 kB, Installed size: 996 kB03:49
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godzirraIs there a way to tell vim to indent html correctly? (i.e. tables, td's, and tr's are indented?)03:49
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'legacydoom' returned no results.03:49
D1is there wolfenstein in universe too?03:50
flarg3does anyone know how to get hotplugged disks etc to create desktop icons without restarting dbus-1?03:50
crispynix-v6anyone happen to have a working java plugin with the latest breezy? it crashes mozilla and firefox here :/ (using the java provided by backports hoary extras)03:50
mobusbash: !find legacydoom: event not found03:50
mobussame for info legacydoom-sdl03:51
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r0bby:D03:51
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r0bbyhey vader03:51
r0bby:D03:51
crispynix-v6alternatively, can I rebuild the java plugin? how?03:52
vader1102hey r0bby03:52
Bico_Finosomebody here use ubuntu to share internet??!??!03:52
Agamottocrispynix-v6:  Reinstall via Synaptic?03:52
nickrudmobus, the !info here was asking an irc bot :) apt-cache doomlegacy-sdl will tell you more; sudo aptitude install doomlegacy-sdl will install it03:52
SquareGuywolfjb, i should have gotten some numbers from doom3 but on glxgears it went from around 1200 to around 2300 with that driver swap03:52
crispynix-v6Agamotto: just installed sun-j2re1.503:52
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wolfjbSquareGuy, woot! that is fast!03:52
Agamottocrispynix-v6: Hmmmm03:53
crispynix-v6Agamotto: it's likely a C version problem (the plugin appears to have been built with gcc < 3.4... mozilla and firefox were probably built with 4.0)03:53
nickrudmobus, sorry, apt-cache show doomlegacy-sld03:53
OhpooOh know I just put some more stuff on my hard drive. I'm up to 6% disk usage. :)03:53
nickrudmobus, sorry, apt-cache show doomlegacy-sdl duh03:53
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wolfjbSquareGuy, I'm still running around 1300fps but that will change shortly when I get the right drivers installed03:54
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godzirraon that note... someone help me with vim :)  can you make it autoindent HTML??03:54
SquareGuywolfjb, yeah i got about a 2-yr old dell 8600 with 1.7 pentium m and ati radeon 9600.  i really want to build an amd 64 desktop with nvidia03:54
vader1102Jimbob: it still isn't seeing the other 2 pc's I am wondering if there is a GUI for configuring the workgroup03:54
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crispynix-v6Agamotto: SOL? Is the plugin closed-source?03:55
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Ohpoowolfjb, do you mean frames per second? In what game? doom?03:55
wolfjbSquareGuy, that would be sweet. I'm living on an AMD 1700 with an ati radeon 9200. moving to a nice 64 would be kinda cool03:55
Agamottocrispynix-v6:  It appears so03:55
by_ruffohello people!03:55
Ohpoohello by_ruffo03:56
crispynix-v6grr, figures that when I really need browser java, it's broken. :-/03:56
by_ruffohow i can install oident ??03:56
wolfjbOhpoo, glxgears fps, although I do well in games like RtCW, Doom 3, and Unreal Tounament200403:56
batma8is there a place in ubuntu that works like my computer in windows where you can view the used, and total space on your hard drives?03:56
Ohpoowolfjb, oh you mean the screen saver?03:56
filehow do i use 2 monitors in ubuntu?>03:57
Will_batma8: df -h ?03:57
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wolfjbOhpoo, no, just running glxgears from the command line03:57
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batma8Will_: that works03:57
batma8thanks03:57
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Nevadofile, do you have nvidia graphics card?03:58
Ohpoowolfjb, cool let me try it. I got a 1.5ghz p4 , 512ram , 5900 fx03:58
SquareGuywolfjb, i ran rtcw under cvs-cedega just to test it.  hehe kinda funny using it to play a game that has linux binaries03:58
Agamottobatma8:  Click on places, then right-click on the volume, open properties03:58
fileNevado, yes i do03:58
file6800gt03:58
wolfjbSquareGuy, never have tried that, always use the .run file from the website...03:59
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wolfjbSquareGuy, how well does that work for you?03:59
Ohpoowolfjb, so is this good when it says this? #31665 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6333.000 FPS03:59
Nevadofile, if you're using the nvidia driver then basically in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, under the device section for your graphics card, you want to add a couple of lines... hang on i'll paste mine on paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:00
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SquareGuyfile, i want your video card.  what did you have to pay for it?04:00
wolfjbOhpoo, looks better than mine04:00
filei got it a while ago, 380$ agp04:00
linlin:(04:00
linlinThe following packages have unmet dependencies:04:00
linlin  transcode: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.0-7) but 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 is to be installed04:00
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Ohpoowolfjb, hmmm well now that I don't play games It really doesn't help me out lol04:01
Nevadofile, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/85904:01
black13i am getting the error (EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, failing back to pre-XKB keymap04:01
black13but i am reading that this should be non-fatal04:01
fileah i see, twin view04:01
wolfjbOhpoo, makes gl screensavers work nicely though04:01
jasoncohenlinlin, yeah- that's a problem with the transcode package04:01
jasoncohenlinlin, you need to add hoary-backports04:02
fileill try it out now, thanks04:02
Ohpoowolfjb, :). Yea I like my Screensavers04:02
jasoncohenlinlin, it really should use hoary's libgcc104:02
Nevadoyeah then just semi colon separated list of resolutions for the two monitors04:02
Nevadonp hope it works :)04:02
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gpdNevado: do you know how to specify which monitor is which.. I"m using twinview with a dlp projecetor and I can't tell it which is my CRT and which is the DLP?04:02
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by_ruffonothing about oident ??04:03
Ohpoowolfjb, hey do you know alot about ram? I got 152ram and now running ubuntu It is only using 147MB of it. So if I get a gig of ram will it use more?04:03
Cinokay i'm still having my crashing problem, i thought it was due to playing music and might have something to do with the usage of my sound card until it's just crashed while i wasn't using XMMS atall and checking out screen savers... so agh, it could happen any minute *freaks*04:03
vader1102errrrrrrrr, I still cannot see any pc's on the workgroup and no one can see me04:03
SquareGuywolfjb, actuallt it worked quite well04:03
linlinso should i jsut install transcode from source?04:04
Cindamn these spontaneous crashes04:04
linlindeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted04:04
nickrudby_ruffo, you are probably looking for oidentd in universe, I think04:04
Nevadogpd, there are options to specify which is which somewhere yeah... hang on a min04:04
linlinis that what i need to add?04:04
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filealright how do i restart my xserver or whatever04:05
linlinlog out04:05
wolfjbOhpoo, I'm not an expert, but naturally. If there is more available to use, more will be used, but it probably won't use 100% of it otherwise programs would start - or start very fast since the system would write to the page file a lot04:05
linlinlog in04:05
filealright04:05
filebe right back04:05
jasoncohenlinlin, "sudo echo deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list"04:05
cafuegolinlin: that doesn't restart X04:05
nickrudlog out, alt-ctl-backspace, log in04:05
slyfile, cntrl + alt + dl04:05
Ohpoowolfjb, oh ok thanks04:05
filekk04:05
jasoncohenlinlin, sorry, use this command instead, "sudo echo deb "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list"04:06
cafuegofile: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart or logout; ctrl-alt-bksp04:06
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Nevadogpd, appendix I in here: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7174/README.txt has all the details04:06
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wolfjbbrb04:07
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linlinsame error04:07
gpdNevado: excellnet, thanks!  one more q.  to switch between dual and single monitor I use 2 xorg.conf.xxx files and overwrite xorg.conf is there a better way to do this?04:07
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wolfjbI'm back04:07
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OhpooI"m front04:08
vader1102Jimbob: you still here?04:08
wolfjbhad to switch to text mode so I can update my firegl drivers04:08
wolfjb:-)04:08
cafuegogpd: You could write a script to switch between xorg.conf's04:08
Nevadogpd, if you're using gnome then what I do is in the MetaModes section if you enter the resolution as NULL it will disable that monitor04:08
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Nevadogpd,  so I have         Option          "MetaModes"     "1280x1024,1280x1024;1280x1024,NULL"04:08
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Nevadogpd, then you can change between them in gnome by going to system -> preferences -> screen resolution04:09
Mobiusany suggestions on how to flash my asus notebooks' bios? I am not having any luck04:09
charleshow do I control what the HAL daemon starts when (removable) new drives are plugged in?04:09
gpdNevado: sounds good, I'll try it ;)04:09
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Bico_Finosomebody here use ubuntu to share internet??!??!04:09
AgamottoMobius:  Have you made a flash boot-floppy?04:09
AgamottoBico_Fino:  No, since no one has answered you yet04:10
Mobiusno floppy drive on the notebook Agamotoo04:10
MobiusAgamotto*04:10
Bico_FinoAgamotto i see. i go back to slackware04:10
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NevadoBico_Fino, have you tried looking in the forums?04:11
AgamottoMobius:  Hmmmm, I suppose you could send the floppy image to a usb key, if the notebook supports that, or a cd using SmartBootManager04:11
MobiusI tried the key, no luck - SmartBootManager?04:11
Bico_FinoNevado yes. but is some very strange. in server works, and on clients i can ping domains and all. But don't work.04:11
nickrudBico_Fino, look into ipmasq and firestarter, both allow internet sharing04:11
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AgamottoIt is a boot cd that can force computers to boot from the source you choose, if the BIOS supports it04:11
Bico_Finonickrud i will see.04:12
Cininsanity insues04:12
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naliothnickrud: have you lost any windows lately/04:12
OhpooCin, hehe04:13
nickrudnalioth, no defenestration recently no04:13
CinOhpoo: lol, i hate your face >____<04:13
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nickrudBico_Fino, I've toyed with ipmasq in the past, it's pretty cut and dried, if I recall correctly04:13
Bico_Finonickrud i install it. let me try04:14
OhpooCin, well just as long as it's not the rest of body04:14
Cinwhoever said switching from windows to linux was a safe idea04:14
OhpooCin,  of my body04:14
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AgamottoCin:  For most 'home' users, it is04:14
fileaLright04:14
Cinlol04:14
Cindamn those 'home' users04:14
fileNevado, i got it kind of working im tweaking it a biyt04:15
fileit worked dual screen at login, however when i got to my desktop the other monitor went to null04:15
Nevadofile, check system -> preferences -> screen resolution04:15
Cini'll wait until my linux guru friend comes online and offer to shine his shoes if he helps me04:16
naliothnickrud: how bout PM windows?04:16
nickrudheh, I'm running breezy for a lark, and I'm not seeing any pms. A bug?04:16
D1hmmm04:16
D1breezy updated without errors04:16
D1looks like its settling down a bit.04:16
OhpooD1 woot. I might try it04:17
Bico_Finonickrud i can ping sites from client, but don't browse.04:17
nickrudI'm back to hoary soon, since beagled doesn't run yet ;(04:17
D1well, that was just my experience, no gurantees.04:17
fileaww nice04:17
fileworks good thanks04:17
Nevadoawesome :)04:17
nickrudBico_Fino, then, you probably need to deal with DNS for each client. I'm not sure I remember how to automate that04:17
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Bico_Finonickrud the dns from server and client are the same. its very strange04:18
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Cinlol04:18
inCocan anyone help me? i installed limewire using an ubuntu userguide as a reference. in my previous installation it loaded up fine, but now when i click on it nothing happens04:18
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Bico_Finonickrud its begin to load the site but stop04:18
jgomohello. Any body knows how to give java plugins for firfox without instaling the sun-j2re? I installed the kaffe pack but it doesn't have the plugins for the firefox.04:18
filethanks alot man04:19
wolfjbjgomo: have you tried gcj? I think that might work04:19
nickrudBico_Fino, I wish I could help, but I'm pretty much a beginner when it comes to troubleshooting network stuff.04:19
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filethis is phat04:19
Cini just want to do some C coding but nooo, *CRASH*04:19
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filei can watch anime and do whatever the hell i want on the other screen04:20
Cinlol04:20
Cinanime, fwor04:20
Bico_Finonickrud about the security of ubuntu. have something to change or just the ip_forward?04:20
inCocan anyone help me? i installed limewire using an ubuntu userguide as a reference. in my previous installation it loaded up fine, but now when i click on it nothing happens04:21
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nickrudBico_Fino, ask that question again later, there are people here off and on who can answer that with some authority04:21
Bico_Finonickrud ok. tks04:21
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inCoalso how do i get kvric to go in my aplications menu04:23
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spudseIs there a "newby save" way to install fluxbox on Ubuntu04:23
spudse?04:23
inCoi am a new user to linux so i havent learnt much04:23
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Bico_Finonickrud the more strange is that msn and icq works. hehe04:24
Cin... i had to beat them to death with their own shoes   O.o04:24
jgomowolfjb: no, i haven't. But i don't think it wold work. Thats because gcj is the gnu java compiler. It is for develpment, like my kaffe. I'm looking for a webbrowser java plugin. Thanks any way. Any other idea.04:24
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wolfjbjgomo: on my debian box I have two install (which may be a problem at some level) but I have a GCJ browser plugin and a Blackdown browser plugin both installed04:29
wolfjbjava generally works for me on that box in firefox. Haven't tried it in ubuntu04:29
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Ohpoowolfjb, I got the java plugin for firefox04:30
La_PaRCaIs anybody having trouble with firefox and the flash plugin?04:30
cafuegoinCo: Thank you for not doing that.04:30
OhpooLa_PaRCa, let me try hmm04:30
inCoi dont understand what i did? sorry about that04:31
linlinlol04:31
Bico_Finocool04:31
cafuego"Hmm, I wonder what this red butto**BOOM**"04:31
inCoi pressed source on kvirc, what does it do?04:31
linlinwhat is a ctcp source anyways04:31
cafuegoinCo: it spams everyone in the channel with a ctcp.04:31
inCodamn04:31
OhpooLa_PaRCa, it works04:31
inCosorry guys04:31
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La_PaRCaOhpoo, um... it freezes my firefox when I close a window thats playing flash04:32
inCoi suppose thats not the way to go for me getting my question answered then :S04:32
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cafuegoinCo: ;-)04:32
OhpooLa_PaRCa, what verison of firefox?04:32
nickrudinCo, nothing ventured, nothing gained04:32
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La_PaRCa1.0.604:32
Tracehello, supporse i dd my mbr first, and can i dd my mbr back through ubuntu liveCD?04:32
goldfishlol04:32
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AgamottoinCo:  That is ok, young padawan04:33
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OhpooLa_PaRCa, hmmm how did you install the flash plugin?04:33
toad3030anybody know how to get ubuntu to see an 8 button mouse?04:33
La_PaRCaapt-get flash-nonfree04:33
abarbacciahow do you install just the libraries that are needed to compile a certain package04:34
inCoif anyone knows how to help me with adding programs to the "applications" menu on gnome, and how to make limewire work when i click on it, please can you send me a PM.04:34
Agamotto8 button? ok...04:34
OhpooLa_PaRCa, hmm let me see something one second04:34
DekaPinkCan I make VLC show a video in 4:3 aspect ratio like mplayer will? :P04:34
inCoim a linux noob04:34
inCo:)04:34
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ubuntu_anyone know how to run sshd after installing it04:34
AgamottoinCo:  Ignorance can be cured04:34
nickrudinCo, you need to look into smeg, it's a gnome menu editor04:34
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toad3030yes the logitech MX510 mouse04:34
AgamottoCall me wierd, but what the hell do you need 8 buttons for?04:35
cafuegotoad3030: Plug it in and it'll do all the basics04:35
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ofer0ubuntu_,  when you are doing "sudo apt-get install ssh"04:35
toad3030hmm....04:35
OhpooLa_PaRCa, hmm I didn't install that version . I'll tell you what I did04:35
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inConickrud: thanks ill look into that now, why doesnt Limewire load up when i click on it would you know?04:35
ofer0ubuntu_, it runs automaticly, and you can connect your account with your username and password04:35
Dr_Fatehow do I make hdparm script run at a lower priority?04:36
lunitikcafuego, middle = pressing mouse wheel, surely?04:36
cafuegotoad3030: You can use xev to tell X about the other ones; google for sample configs for an mx510 or mx700.04:36
Amaranth!smeg04:36
ubotuI heard smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.04:36
Dr_Fateits not waiting until the devs are recognized04:36
nickrudinCo, no, when I want that network, I use gtk-gnutella or mldonkey04:36
Agamottocafuego:  Go into the settings, and you should be able to tell it that you have a three button, scroll mouse04:36
cafuegolunitik: yeah. Except I also have three additonal buttons near the wheel04:36
Dr_Fatealthough it still is dma'ing them?04:36
toad3030is there something in cedega that i have to check for it to work with all buttons? for games?04:36
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AmaranthDr_Fate: update-rc.d?04:36
OhpooLa_PaRCa, I did this and it works fine #sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla04:37
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inConickrud: thanks for your help :) much appreciated. bbiab if i get stuck again04:37
Dr_FateAmaranth, ??04:37
La_PaRCaOhpoo, trying that one as we speak04:37
OhpooLa_PaRCa, sweet04:37
AmaranthDr_Fate: man update-rc.d04:37
Dr_FateAmaranth, its already in the boot up scripts04:37
toad3030what is a good program to watch dvd's with?04:38
jgomowolfjb_ Well I'll try that. Thanks.04:38
La_PaRCaOhpoo, nope, killed it too04:38
lunitiktoad3030, totem  :/04:38
toad3030it won't let me04:38
lunitiktoad3030, look at the wiki on the subject04:38
Agamottomplayer04:38
La_PaRCaOhpoo, might be something wrong with firefox, cuz mozilla is being cool about it04:39
AgamottoXine is good as well04:39
lunitikAgamotto, mplayer uses the same codecs as totem04:39
lunitikAgamotto, without the codecs, he is gonna have issues04:39
toad3030ok thx04:39
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OhpooLa_PaRCa, yea firefox can be alittle crazy sometimes04:39
AgamottoHmmm, never had a problem with playing DVDs on mine... I must have fetched a whole bunch of codecs with Synaptic04:39
La_PaRCaOhpoo, Ill have to see about it04:39
jasoncohentoad3030, i find xine the best for playing DVD movies. it has good subtitle and menu support and has a nice interface for angle, menu, subtitle and other DVD features04:39
jasoncohen!multimedia04:40
ubotumethinks multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia04:40
jasoncohentoad3030, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia04:40
Dr_FateAmaranth, do you recomend a runlevel?04:40
inCowhere is the linux version of "program files" if you would04:40
SprinkerDoes anyone know how to get dual display working with Gnome 2.10.0?04:40
cafuego*spin*04:40
AmaranthDr_Fate: i dunno what those are in ubuntu04:40
wolfjbwhat package do I need to get the kernel headers that match my installed kernel? (2.6.10)?04:40
toad3030thx04:40
lunitiktoad3030, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo04:40
Amaranthwolfjb: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`04:40
wolfjbthe only package I can find seems to be for 2.6.7 or something04:40
Burgundavialunitik, that is a deprecated page04:40
wolfjbAmaranth: thanks, I'll try that04:41
Amaranthwolfjb: make sure you use backticks, not quotes04:41
Burgundavialunitik, RestrictedFormats is better04:41
markhi, you guys are gonna hate me, but i just installed 5.04 on a machine from scratch, and am getting no sound at all.  i checked the volume and have been mucking around in alsamixer turning stuff up and looking through online help and no luck.  i've got an ensoniq soundscape (fairly generic), and everything else about this install has been super easy, even for a novice like me...  any advice would be appreciated!04:41
crimsunmark: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:41
OhpooLa_PaRCa, I find that mozilla is more stable then firefox.04:41
lunitikBurgundavia, appears to still be valid... but yeah, what you said is actually what I was thinking of...04:41
markok04:42
La_PaRCaOhpoo, probably, but its a bunch heavier04:42
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wolfjbmark: I had that problem once, I would turn stuff all the way up but still no sound until someone pointed out to me I still had it muted... have you checked to make sure you turned off the mute?04:42
Amaranth!sound04:43
ubotusound is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206304:43
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lunitikBurgundavia, what I pointed to is actually what I do as a matter of fact... although, I use /usr/lib/win32 as thats what Totem looks at first...04:43
markis the mute just in with the volume control?04:44
markplease god dont let me be that dense...04:44
lunitikhaha @ this channel finally getting a bot  :)04:44
lunitik!owner04:44
Burgundavialunitik, w32codecs makes it invalid04:44
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, lunitik04:44
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Burgundavialunitik, cafuego owns it04:44
wolfjbmark: in alsamixer, it is usually one of the switches below the volume control you are adjusting04:44
lunitikBurgundavia, w32codecs is just a debian package containing the codecs...04:44
FazerHello, does anyone know how to get the font Tahoma04:45
Burgundavialunitik, yes04:45
Fazeror Tohamo whatever, its called.04:45
wolfjbmark: if it is the text mode version, select a chanel and hit the 'm' key, look for [MM]  at the bottom of the screen it should disappear if it isn't muted04:45
markubotu: is that just for multiple sounds or sounds period.  i cant hear anything, even if just one sound04:45
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, mark04:45
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lunitikBurgundavia, unneeded, and it tends to be badly maintained... I have better luck with doing it manually... when they all go to the same place, its not necissary to have apt know about it...04:46
Amaranth!fixsound04:46
ubotumethinks fixsound is http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly04:46
markcripse im talking to a bot now (slaps self)04:46
Amaranthwhere is this junk coming from and where is the link to the wiki?04:46
Ohpoomark, lol it's ok04:46
nickrud!sound04:46
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206304:46
Amaranthmark: everyone does it once04:46
Amaranthmark: it even gives human like answers when you say something it doesn't understand ;)04:46
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wolfjbback in a bit04:47
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lunitikcafuego, is the bot a blootbot (ala dpkg and apt...)?04:47
Dr_Fate,y problem is I'm using hdparm.conf and it says upon boot, no device /dev/hdc04:47
Dr_Fateyet still enables dma on it04:47
Amaranthlunitik: Yes.04:47
crimsunmark: did you paste the amixer output?04:47
Dr_Fatehow can I stop this notice of error?04:47
markwolf: after twiddling in alsamixer (text version) do I need to restart my session or anything like that?04:47
Amaranth!info mozilla-firefox04:47
ubotumozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 8581 kB, Installed size: 24100 kB04:47
Amaranthlunitik: See?04:47
FazerDoes anyone know how to fix up the fonts so that it looks more like it is on Windows?04:47
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halibuthow can I format an ntfs partition from linux?04:48
markcrimsun: i pasted it to paste.ubuntulinux.nl  should i put it here too?  seemed big04:48
lunitikAmaranth, hmm... did he post the code for it? I was trying to get a blootbot going a while ago, but the package was badly maintained and I couldn't figure out how to get it running currectly...04:48
nickrudDr_Fate, that is normal: hdparm is run during startup before the cdrom kernel module is loaded04:48
filewould u like to touch my hairy package?04:48
lunitikfile, not funny.04:49
Amaranthlunitik: *shrug*04:49
filehax04:49
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Dr_Fatenickrud, how can I have hdparm.conf run after the kernel module is loaded?04:49
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lunitikAmaranth, ahh... guess I can wait till cafuego gets back... thanks though  :)04:49
nickrudDr_Fate, you can rerun hdparm later; a sec04:49
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Dr_Fatenickrud, can't I also just change it runlevel?04:50
FazerDoes anyone know where i can get tahoma font?04:50
AgamottoFazer:  sudo apt-get install msfonts04:51
AmaranthFazer: You can't.04:54
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AgamottoOhpoo, it isn't in that package?04:54
crimsunmark: amixer sset 'External Amplifier' on04:54
nickrudDr_Fate, you can do sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/hdparm /etc/rc2.d/S91hdparm ; that's a hack, but it will work04:54
AmaranthFazer: Installing msttcorefonts will get you andale mono, arial black, arial, comic sans, courier new, georgia, impact, times new roman, trebuchet, verdana, and webdings04:54
markcrimsun: i think it is, but will check04:54
Dr_Fatenickrud, thank you04:54
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halibuthow can I remove an ntfs partition (to be marked as free space) from linux then?04:54
nickrudDr_Fate, it just runs the same hdparm configuration again, after the cdrom module is loaded04:54
Amaranthhalibut: gparted04:54
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FazerAmaranth: But Agamotto suggested something...04:54
markcrimsun:  was off, now it's on, do i need to restart my session or anything like that to commit the change?04:54
FazerAgamotto: Actually I remember installing that package some time ago but I don't think that has Tahoma...does it have it on yours?04:54
AmaranthFazer: And admitted he was wrong less than a minute later. :)04:54
AgamottoFazer:  Nope, I just checked04:54
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Amaranthmsfonts doesn't exist, it's msttcorefonts04:54
crimsunmark: nope, just test with an audio program04:54
Dr_Fatenickrud, it seems to run again anyway as dma is enabled after boot. I want it not to run at all before the kernel modules load, how to do that?04:54
FazerI was reading the forums and someone seems to have it.04:54
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Fazerhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=243213&postcount=204:54
arathaldeach time i reconfigure xserver, i set it to run 1600x1200@60hz, but whenever I go to the resolution settings, it goes back to 1280x1024 (i down it to 1024x768 cause 1280x1024 is alll out of shape on the mon i have setup for 1600x1200, my windows res)04:54
OhpooAgamotto, oh sorry what was you talking about?04:54
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eriscoi can never seem to locate files in the terminal....04:54
eriscoi am trying to upload something to mysql04:54
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nickrudDr_Fate, I'm not sure why you would want to do that: why not have your hard disks optomized as early as possble (unless I'm totally missing your intent)04:54
lunitikerisco, whereis is your friend04:54
markcrimsun:  no dice...04:54
Belutzerisco: try using slocate ?04:54
eriscoand the path should be /home/eric/pet.txt04:55
eriscobut it won't locate it04:55
eriscoslocate?04:55
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crimsunmark: ok, mute External Amplifier and Headphones04:55
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Belutzslocate <filename>04:55
AmaranthFazer: You can copy it from a windows install, sure.04:55
markcrimsun:  will do04:55
cafuegoerisco: Did you run pdatedb'since creating that file?04:55
Dr_Fatenickrud, it appears they are trying to optimize the HDs just a tad too early? I want them to wait like 10 nanoseconds later04:55
PurpleMotionDAlnet's always so screwed up04:55
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Dr_FateLOL04:56
Ohpooarathald, my guess is it might be the driver you are using. Do you have a good video card?04:56
AmaranthPurpleMotion: This is why we aren't on dalnet. :)04:56
cafuegoDr_Fate: Put "sleep 1" near the top of the hdparm init script.04:56
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arathaldOhpoo: nv geforce 305:02
wolfjbwoot! firegl update worked05:02
FazerAmaranth: oh sweet, where do I copy it to though?05:02
PurpleMotionAmaranth:  tis a shame... twas once hands down the best network around05:02
Ohpooarathald, wow that's a good one05:02
Dr_Fatecafuego, sounds good05:02
nickrudDr_Fate, look at /etc/rcS.d ; that's where hdparm is called from initally. you can change the startup order there, if you really need to05:02
AmaranthFazer: Open nautilus, hit Ctrl-L, and type 'fonts:///'05:02
markcrimsun: no dice...05:02
AmaranthFazer: Drag and drop them in there.05:02
markcrimsun:  what's the command to list sound devices?05:02
FazerAmaranth: Ah sweet, thanks05:02
Ohpooarathald, so tell me when does it go back to the rez you don't want it to be at?05:02
crimsunmark: cat /proc/asound/cards05:02
markcrimsun: i checked earlier, and i think it may have said i have 2, which is werid since i only have one05:02
crimsun(don't paste in here)05:02
markcrimsun: thanx05:02
arathaldOhpoo: well, actually, in the gnome res selector, 1280x1024 is the highest, it acts like i told it that that was the highest res05:02
Dr_Fatenickrud, hdparm is not in my rc5.d05:02
nickrudDr_Fate, rcS (as in ess) .d05:02
cafuegoDr_Fate: Itl be in rc2.d; since Ubuntu boots to runlevel 2 by default.05:03
markcrimsun:  yeah, to me it looks like its saying there's 2, but it's over my head.  something about a VIA card, and then the ensoniq card info.  i think i have a VIA graphics card maybe, but not audio05:03
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Dr_Fatecafuego, thats weird its in neither???05:03
markcrimsun:  where can i paste it for you to look at? its only about 5 lines, but they are passing my head like a jet05:03
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Ohpooarathald, ahh yes I had that problem before. Let me see was the game installed before you made the change?05:03
markcrimsun: if you wouldn't mind that is05:03
cafuegoDr_Fate: $EDITOR /etc/init.d/hdparm05:03
crimsunmark: same pastebin05:03
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markcrimsun:  cool thanx05:03
arathaldOhpoo: game?05:03
FazerAmaranth: I think I will have to do this in Gnome because I am using Xfce05:03
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Ohpooarathald, lol sorry thought you said game haha you said gnome05:03
vladuz976can anyone here help me? i have an old HD with windows. can i somehow hook it up and configure grub so i can dual boot from two different hard drives?05:03
markcrimsun: just sent it05:03
Ohpooarathald, hmmm did you try restarting you system. Just an idea05:03
s0cksIs there a program I could use to reformat this NTFS partition without losing ANY of the data contained within? All I wish to do is shrink the partition.05:03
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cafuegovladuz976: yes, but Windows *needs* to be the primary master.05:03
arathaldOhpoo: ya did. brb- i just ran the reconfigure agn and my mouse pointer disappeared- gonna log out and back in05:03
Ohpoook cool05:03
MrGardenHoseManis there any way to dual boot when installing XP after linux?05:03
cafuegos0cks: reformatting *equals* deleting all data05:03
vladuz976cafuego: so only way is to keep plugging in and out?05:03
nickrudDr_Fate, /etc/rc2.d/S07hdparm is the link that is run05:03
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s0ckscafuego : Well then, can I SHRINK the partition?05:03
cafuegoMrGardenHoseMan: Yes, it involves a rescue disk and undoing the damage windows did to the MBR.05:03
crimsunmark: you have two sound chipsets, the ensoniq and the onboard.05:03
crimsunmark: I presume you wish to use the ensoniq?05:03
AgamottoMrGardenHoseMan:  Not easily, no.  Windows presumes it is the first and/or only occupant of the MBR05:03
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Dr_Fatenickrud, # /etc/rc2.d/S07hdparm05:03
Dr_Fatebash: /etc/rc2.d/S07hdparm: No such file or directory05:03
cafuegos0cks: Yep. First, run a disk check; degrag; run a disk check. Then you can use 'parted' to resize05:03
MrGardenHoseManso i'm fucked then?05:03
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cafuegoMrGardenHoseMan: No, restoring the MBR is trivial.05:04
nickrudDr_Fate, ls -l /etc/rc2.d/S07hdparm, should point at /etc/init.d/hdparm05:04
s0ckscafuego : Problem.05:04
markcrimsun:  yes. but really whatever works would be ok.05:04
Dr_Fatenickrud, the link is missing05:04
crimsunmark: well, right now the onboard (Via) is the one being used...05:04
MrGardenHoseManactually the MBR is GRUB's territory, windows hasn't touched it yet05:04
s0ckscafuego : I'm RUNNING windows on a 150 gig partition. I need to run Windows on a 110 gig partition.05:04
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markcrimsun:  but the onboard one is not accessible from outside the case yet05:04
s0ckscafuego : Can I do it through windows?05:04
cafuegos0cks: Yes. Just checka dn defrag it (from within windows) and then resize from the Ubuntu CD.05:04
crimsunmark: ok, then let's do this: lsmod|grep ^snd_ens05:04
markcrimsun: is there a way to disable the via or do I have to make some holes in the back of the case05:04
MrGardenHoseManany tutorials on how to do this the hard way?05:05
crimsunmark: what is the output from that command?05:05
bimberiMrGardenHoseMan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows05:05
markcrimsun:  will do05:05
MrGardenHoseManthanks05:05
cafuegos0cks: There is no implied or other warranry on that resize operation.05:05
bimberiyw :)05:05
Fazercrimsun: do you know where fonts:/// points to?05:05
cafuegos0cks: it *may* destroy all your data.05:05
nickrudDr_Fate, it exists on both by hoary and breezy installs. If you don't have it, well, a bug or something05:05
nickrud*my05:05
s0ckscafuego : FUCK!05:05
markcrimsun: snd_ens1371            22624  005:06
PurpleMotiona duck05:06
cafuegos0cks: If you can risk that, disks are cheep.05:06
crimsunFazer: all the defined font paths iirc05:06
Dr_Fatenickrud, weird how the hell is it running at boot then without the link?05:06
cafuegos/can/can't/05:06
crimsunmark: ok, go ahead and do this: sudo modprobe -r snd_ens137105:06
Fazercrimsun: sorry?05:06
markcrimsun: will do05:06
s0ckscafuego : My main problem with it is that I need all this data for my job.05:06
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cafuegos0cks: Just get a new hdd then05:06
crimsunFazer: your Xorg conffile has font paths defined05:06
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s0ckscafuego : Can you send 50 bucks to my paypal account?05:07
Fazercrimsun: Ah, I see05:07
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zxmpulsehello05:07
Fazercrimsun: Mind telling me where the .conf file would be ?05:07
OhpooI could use 50bucks too05:07
nickrudDr_Fate, another link. I just have a decent grip on how the debian/ubuntu devels use the sysv init, expect that link.05:07
Fazerx11/ ?05:07
cafuegos0cks: Why would I do that? *YOU* have a job!05:07
crimsunFazer: /etc/X11/xorg.conf. You don't need to change it, though...05:07
Fazerer xorg.conf?05:07
markcrimsun: just did it05:07
Fazercrimsun: ah yeah, found it.  Just need the path05:07
s0ckscafuego : Because I had to spend 3000 dollars on my car in the last month?05:07
Dr_Fatenickrud, I just made this link lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 18 2005-07-31 23:06 S07hdparm -> /etc/init.d/hdparm05:08
crimsunmark: ok, now: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*05:08
Dr_Fatenickrud, but I'd like to track down the other one05:08
nickrudDr_Fate, in which directory?05:08
markcrimsun: done05:08
cafuegos0cks: Dude, if it costs that much to maintain, get a new car too.05:08
crimsunmark: pastebin the output?05:08
Dr_Fatenickrud, wherever it is, I could not find the link until I made it05:09
s0ckscafuego : Kiss my ass. Buy me a hard drive, and I'll get a new car.05:09
markcrimsun:  will do05:09
Dr_Fatenickrud, but one had to exist in order for it to have run05:09
aruhow about you guys maintain your car and language in offtopic05:09
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markcrimsun:  wait a sec, there was no output.  had to do it twice to be sure05:09
Burgundavias0cks, please remember the code of conduct05:09
cafuegos0cks: if you _can't_ lose that data, you'll need a new HD. No amount of getting angry with _me_ is going to change that.05:09
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crimsunmark: ok, then you can do this: sudo modprobe -r snd_via82xx05:10
markcrimsun: will do05:10
Zootwould anyone happen to know if Xorg spinning CPU at 99.9% is a known issue?05:10
cafuegos0cks: You're more than werlcome to risk a resize and I'm sure it works fine in 98 out of 100 cases. Just be warned it *may* fail.05:10
nickrudDr_Fate, a quick primer (and a grossly oversimplifed one, since it's the one I use) the kernel calls init, which runs the links rcS.d, and then calls the ones in rc2.d (normal startup). Follow those, and you'll see where hdparm is getting called.05:11
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markcrimsun:  i got "FATAL: Module snd_via82xx is in use."05:11
bpilgrim1979test05:11
Fazercrimsun: when I have copied over the font, do I have to restart anything?05:11
Ohpooarathald, welcome back05:11
arathaldOhpoo: well, I reconfigured xserver again, and this time it workes, and now im up at my full 1600x120005:11
crimsunmark: hmm, are you _sure_ that lsof command had no output? (lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* )05:11
crimsunFazer: no05:11
Ohpooarathald, cheers!05:12
markcrimsun:  let me try one more time05:12
Fazercrimsun: ah okay.05:12
arathaldOhpoo: yeah, thanks anyways05:12
Dr_Fatecafuego, nickrud , I've made this link, and put sleep 1 in the file05:12
Dr_Fatefound them05:12
Dr_Fatenickrud, it was in rc.d and rc.6!05:12
arathaldOhpoo: now i have to figure out how to get my dual monitors working :P05:12
Ohpooarathald, I have no idea on that one :)05:12
Dr_Fatenickrud, and rc0.d ??05:13
arathaldOhpoo: I had dual on windows (im on dual boot) and that really screwed up the installation the first time cause the primary system was my secondary windows05:13
arathaldOhpoo: so i had to physically remove it and reinstall ubuntu05:13
markcrimsun:  i don't get it, i just typed the command, no output, but when I cut and pasted, I got output.  and I swear to god no typos.  anyways, pasting now05:13
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Ohpooarathald, ouch05:14
markcrimsun: just pasted.  thanx05:14
Dr_Fatecafuego, in /etc/init.d/rc0.d and rc6.d they were named K75hdparm wtf is that?05:14
nickrudDr_Fate, those are all kill (shutdown) calls to the scripts in /etc/init.d/ ; 6 is shutdown, and 0 is reboot05:14
Dr_Fateoh05:14
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Dr_Fatenickrud, I'm goin gto reboot now, and see what happens05:15
cafuegoDr_Fate: They're just links to the same script. The K (or S) and the number control when they run and in what order.05:15
crimsunmark: ah, esd. Ok, go to System> Preferences> Sounds> uncheck Enable sound server startup05:16
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transgresswho knows how to make totem see my w32codecs?05:16
markcrimsun: done05:16
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Ohpootransgress, did you install totem-xine?05:17
transgressOhpoo: no.05:17
crimsunmark: now that lsof command should return nothing05:17
Ohpootransgress, mine didn't work eaither untill I installed totem-xine05:17
markcrimsun:  yes, just reran it and nothing05:17
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digitalfoxis there a plan for an XF86Config frontend in Breezy?05:18
transgressOhpoo: thanks for the tip05:18
Ohpootransgress, np05:19
crimsunmark: ok, now sudo modprobe -r snd_via82xx05:19
tiglionabbitthe package "Totem" is a metapackage that has nothing in it.  By default it installs totem-gstreamer, which uses the gstreamer libraries to add multimedia support (gstreamer0.8-plugins).  You can replace totem-gstreamer with totem-xine to use the xine engine instead, which seems to understand the codecs05:19
Burgundaviadigitalfox, you mean a gtk one?05:19
cafuegodigitalfox: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:19
digitalfoxyes05:19
Burgundaviadigitalfox, there is nothing officially planned05:19
digitalfoxdang05:19
markcrimsun:  it returned "FATAL: Module snd_via82x not found."05:19
digitalfoxit is needed05:19
AgamottoWhat, praytell, is Breezy?05:19
crimsunmark: you missed an 'x'05:20
digitalfoxAgamotto, next release of Ubuntu05:20
cafuegoThere is no reason to assume $USER knows how to configure X any better than a piece of perl script ;-)05:20
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BurgundaviaAgamotto, the next version of Ubuntu, due for release in Oct 200505:20
AgamottoAhhh05:20
AgamottoThat soon....05:20
Ohpootiglionabbit, cool thanks for info. Now i know how it works05:20
Burgundaviacafuego, a nice gtk dialog would be nice05:20
digitalfoxcafuego, I don't want to have to go into my xorg.conf and manually uncomment DontZap05:20
cafuegoFrom experience I'd say perl know better 95% of the time.05:20
markcrimsun:  d'oh!  my bad...  it returned: "FATAL: Module snd_via82xx is in use."05:20
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digitalfoxwhich is something that shouldn't be enabled by default anyway05:20
digitalfoxcafuego, what happens when the user puts in a new card?05:21
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digitalfoxalso, Xorg should have a fallback driver05:21
digitalfoxbut that's more on Xorg's end I'm sure05:21
Agamottodigitafox:  I am sure it will be there in the next few iterations05:21
digitalfoxit should always drop back to vesa when the "right" driver breaks05:21
crimsunmark: still? What does that lsof command return?05:21
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cafuegodigitalfox: Now you're assuming vesa always works.05:21
Burgundaviadigitalfox, there was a post to the ubuntu-devel list about one05:21
Burgundaviacafuego, vesa almost always works05:21
cafuegoMaybe xvfb05:22
cafuegoBurgundavia: *almost*05:22
markcrimsun: it is not returning anything05:22
digitalfoxxvfb would be the tertiary fallback :p05:22
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digitalfoxthat's... way too primitive XD05:22
Agamottoxvfb.... ick05:22
dekHOLA05:22
Burgundaviaregardless of what it does, any graphical utilty must not leave someone with a broken X05:22
digitalfox<selected driver> --> vesa --> vga --> xvfb05:22
digitalfoxI agree.05:22
cafuegoBurgundavia: Hmm. There goes breezy out the window ;-)05:23
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Razor-XI can't wait to have my own mailserver ;)05:23
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cafuegoOh, interesting.05:23
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nickrudRazor-X, use exim, it's simpler ;05:23
cafuegofirefox on breezy appears to have lost all menus.05:24
markcrimsun:  just dblchking you meant the "lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*" command05:24
Razor-Xnickrud: so? meh05:24
crimsunmark: yep05:24
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markcrimsun: yeah its returning nothing now05:24
Razor-Xqmail is powerful, andi 'll either figure this out or flounder trying05:24
nickrudgotta love that scripting work05:24
Razor-Xs/andi 'll/and i'll/05:24
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Razor-Xi'm _hoping_ I don't do the latter05:24
crimsunmark: ok, let's go ahead and do this, then: echo "options snd-via82xx index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base05:24
cafuegoRazor-X: Why don't you pick one that won't require recompiling whenever there's a security update?05:25
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Razor-Xcafuego: because i've heard a lot about qmail, I guess05:25
cafuego(eg: has a decent license?)05:25
Burgundaviadigitalfox, http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-July/009284.html05:25
cafuegoRazor-X: <heh> Have you heard more about Windows than about qmail?05:25
markcrimsun: ok05:25
Razor-Xcafuego: ;)05:25
Burgundaviadigitalfox, and http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-July/009293.html05:25
Razor-Xyou got me there05:25
cafuegoRazor-X: What sort of mail system you going to run?05:26
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markcrimsun: it returned that string in quotes05:26
benplautdarn05:26
digitalfoxBurgundavia, thanks05:26
benplautyou can't use bold in your nick :P05:26
Razor-Xcafuego: a single user one05:26
Razor-Xit's going to be pour moi05:26
Razor-Xand no-one else05:26
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crimsunmark: good. I think it's easiest now to simply reboot.05:26
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markcrimsun: ok,  brb..  and thanx for yr help05:27
ericvwcan someone help me get my firewire working in ubuntu?05:27
cafuegoAlright. Time to get to work fater 5 days of doing nothing.05:28
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Christophe971 wow so much people05:29
ericvwi need some assistance with getting my firewire working; any help would be appreciated05:29
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nickrudmost of aren't really here tho05:29
Christophe971kikdijon> ey wassup05:29
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eriscohello, i was wondering how to check if my graphics card is installed?05:29
eriscoany terminal command for that?05:29
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Razor-Xerisco: i'm pretty sure it's installed if you're using X05:30
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nickruderisco, sudo lspci -v will tell you pretty much all about cards plugged into your bus05:30
arathaldhow do I login as root? I tried and the password I have (the one i use for sudo) doesn't work for logging into root05:30
Christophe971how old is the Gcard05:30
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kikdijonChristophe971, > tien, salu05:30
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jazzanovai have a dvd that i can't play. i can play other dvds. what should i do ?05:31
Christophe971kikdijon> in english!!!!!!!!!!!!05:31
_frankIt's ALIVE!!!! my wlan card was pretty painless to setup! (Atheros chipset chosen on purpose) but the settings don't seem to stick after I leave kcontrol. If I can't figure it out , at least I have you guys so everything should go well.05:31
kikdijonChristophe971, > ah ouais, sorry lol05:31
troyare there any instructions for creating a custom install disk? (EG: tweak install packages)05:31
markcrimsun: you are the man!  thanks so much!  sound is working now!05:31
Ohpooarathald, why do you want to login a root?05:31
nickrudjazzanova, use it as a coaster?05:31
Ohpooarathald, as05:31
ericvwhow can iget my firewire to work?05:31
arathaldOhpoo: to edit my xorg.conf05:31
ericvwi have it built in, but ubuntu doesn't seem to be recognizing it05:31
jazzanovanickrud: why wouldn't it play ? its a new dvd.05:31
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ericvw(out of the box that is)05:32
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racoon97ouais quoi qui y a d'exceptionnel ici hein ?!!!05:32
Ohpooarathald, #sudo gedit then the path works05:32
markcrimsun: i'm sure i'll be back as I fine new stuff to break ;)  but seriously, thanks a ton.  My wife was seriously starting to doubt my repeated "No, it's better than windows!"05:33
Burgundaviaracoon97, #ubuntu-fr05:33
arathaldOhpoo: ok, thx05:33
Ohpooarathald, np05:33
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nickrudjazzanova, a bad joke, I'm not really up on the ins and outs of illegally reading dvd05:33
nickruds05:33
Tribunej #kubuntu05:33
crimsunmark: excellent05:33
toranhey guys, is there any software I could use to edit an mpeg file?05:33
jazzanovawhy is it illegal ?05:33
jazzanovawhats illegal about it ?05:33
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markgood night everyone, and praise jah for this forum!05:33
Une-ga-dihicafuego:05:34
jazzanovaif i was running windows, would i be able to play it ?05:34
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Ohpooarathald, /etc/X11/xorg.conf is it05:34
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racoon97Burgundavia> ah ca va hein .. si pon peu pas rigoler de temps en temps  lol05:34
Dr_Fatecafuego: whats that sleep parameter again, I keep getting invalid seperator?05:34
Ohpooarathald, #sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:34
Tribunehi. how to sudo apt-get all ubuntu package?05:34
arathaldOhpoo: ya- got it- thx05:34
Ohpooarathald, np :)05:35
arathaldOhpoo: and yes, i did back it up first :P05:35
InvertedDonkeyi have just installed ubuntu and was wondering if there was any way to move the screen display to the left because it is off center05:35
Ohpooarathald, oops forgot to mention that haha05:35
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Ohpooarathald, hmm also I think it backs it up auto when you save it05:35
arathaldOhpoo: hey, i may be clueless in 'nix, but ive been on win and dos since before i can remember05:35
_frankInvertedDonkey: probablt with monitor settings on the monitor itself05:36
Ohpooarathald, but not sure05:36
Ohpooarathald, hehe yes I remember playing games in dos :)05:36
InvertedDonkeygood call05:36
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InvertedDonkeythanks05:37
cs378is there a way to see chinese characters in application like beep-media-player? cuz my desktop windows mp3s is all in chinese.05:37
ericvwcan someone help me get my firewire working?05:38
Dr_Fatenickrud: do you know the proper syntax for the sleep parameter in hdparm.conf05:38
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nickrudDr_Fate, you probably would put your sleep (delay) in /etc/init.d/hdparm, in the startup section. Personally, I don't think that's something you want to do05:39
cs378i have searched the ubuntuforum but no luck05:40
Nomad_1Is there a program native to ubuntu for checking your system's temperatures?05:40
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n1xt3rericv: I think noone will answer because you haven't proved that you've done your research, by asking the same question repeatedly. My advice, start with google.com and mailing lists05:40
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ericvwthanks05:40
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jazzanovai am having trouble getting skype to work, it can't write to the audio device.05:42
AgamottoNomad_1:  I don't know if it is considered native, but I use gkrellm for my monitoring05:42
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oni_my girlfriend is getting problems with a PS/2 mouse05:43
oni_it doesn't move, somebody know ho to fix it?05:43
jazzanovashe needs a joystick05:43
jazzanova:)05:43
oni_05:43
nickrudjazzanova, maybe will help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary?highlight=%28sound%2905:43
Agamottooni_:  As stupid as it sounds, did you start by cleaning it?05:44
Nomad_1I was looking at gkrellm but it seems only to support I386. Atleast that's the only arch. that I've seen on the site. (Mind you I didn't look too hard and got frustrated after looking for a dpkg or RPM for the i86_64 arch. and wasn't having any luck)05:44
nickrudlol, get out the eraser :)05:44
oni_he it's not the problem, we've tried 2 ps/2 mouses, same problem, the cursor doesn' move05:44
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black13any ideas what causes The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:05:44
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Razor-Xhmmmm05:45
black13Error: Cannot open "compiled/server-0.xkm"05:45
Dr_MelectausWhats a good FTP server i can put on my ubuntu laptop, thats free, simple, and easy to use05:45
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transgresshttp://www.aeonflux.com/  can anyone load that site properly?  i only see about 1/3 of it and the rest is gray05:45
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depravewhat are some fun things to install and play with on ubuntu?05:45
oni_hey, anyone know why ps/2 mouses doesn't work in ubuntu?05:46
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Nomad_1Another problem for me is I haven't taken the time to read up on how to install under linux. That's why I'm looking for a native solution :).05:46
Razor-Xwhen telling qmail my hostname, do I have to have an external address, save my IP, or will lack of that limit email to only local?05:46
jazzanovathanks05:46
black13i love that show ...05:46
Agamottooni_:  Can you be more specific?  What mouse precisely?05:47
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Nomad_1(Note: I have the docs I need to read either bookmarked or stored on my computer for basic linux usage. Just need to take the time to read them :). )05:47
Ohpoowow apt-get is powerfull! Synaptic seems about the same too hehe. But which one is better?05:47
nickrudOhpoo, synaptic, hands down05:47
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Razor-XOhpoo: the command-line is generally better in power05:47
Razor-Xtry aptiude though, it's better than both, IMO ;)05:47
oni_Agamotto: it's an A4Tech, but I think it's not the model05:47
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AgamottoSame thing.  Synpaptic is a graphic front-end for apt-get, which lists whatever you filter with05:48
Razor-Xnickrud: any ideas on the hostname thing?05:48
nickrudsynaptic has aptitude, Raptoid05:48
nickrudsynaptic has aptitude, Razor-X ,sorry Raptoid05:48
Razor-Xhehe05:48
Dr_Fatecafuego, sleep parameter?05:48
jasoncohenOhpoo, it depends if you like the command line or not05:48
Razor-Xnickrud: any ideas on the hostname thing? because i'm pretty sure you need that in exim05:48
nickrudRazor-X, no, I use exim for the prior work05:48
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Razor-Xhmmm.....05:48
AgamottoNomad_1:  At least you are trying to do it yourself, instead of just whining "it's broken, fix it"05:48
nickrudbrainless, me, exim coddles05:49
Razor-XNomad_1: try and compile it yourself05:49
jasoncohenOhpoo, synaptic is a very nice gui for installing applications but apt-get can also install build dependencies and install & build from source (if you have deb-src lines enabled). you can do everything through apt-get that you can do with synaptic and more05:49
jasoncohenfor most users synaptic is the better choice05:49
Ohpoojasoncohen, coll05:49
Ohpoojasoncohen, cool05:49
Dr_MelectausWhats a good FTP server i can put on my ubuntu laptop, thats free, simple, and easy to use and has a GUI05:49
Nomad_1Agamotto: Thanks, I try as best I can to be self relient when it comes to Linux but there's times when either I'm too lazy or frustrated to do the research and just come here and ask.05:50
nickrudjasoncohen, then, use aptitude for apt-get05:50
jasoncohenaptitude and apt-get are both frontends05:50
Razor-Xaptitude is much better than apt-get, IMHO05:50
jasoncohenwhat do you mean use aptitude for apt-get05:50
Razor-Xyeah, they're both frontends to dpkg05:50
Razor-Xalong with the horribly deprecated dselect05:50
Nomad_1Razor-X: I have next to no linux experience. Compiling under it seems like something I shouldn't mess around with until I'm more familier with the structure of a linux system05:50
black13Razor-X did you get that thing i sent you?05:50
Razor-Xjasoncohen: aptitude is another package manager frontend05:50
jasoncohenRazor-X, i know05:50
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jasoncoheni've used all 305:51
AgamottoNomad_1:  I can understand... I used to be an Amiga user05:51
Razor-XNomad_1: now would be a nice time to do some reading ;)05:51
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shammydoes anyone here have ubuntu running with an ati radion x700 pro video card?05:51
Razor-Xbut, after that, it will be nicer05:51
shammyi have come to the conclusion that it is not supported by X very well at all05:51
nickrudI used dselect a few times, then discovered aptitude. I really like the automatic package tracking05:51
Razor-Xcompilation has become dog simple these days (unless you're compiling qmail, like me)05:51
maxy_noobIs there a syncronization possibility in ubuntu as in windows?05:51
Razor-Xdselect was horrible05:51
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jasoncohennickrud, what do you mean automatic package tracking?05:51
maxy_noobI'd like to sync my laptop files with those on my desktop05:51
Dr_Melectauscould someone tell me a good FTP server i can put on my ubuntu laptop, thats free, simple, and easy to use05:52
Dr_Melectausand has a gui05:52
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jasoncohendselect is nice if you want to install the same packages on two machines05:52
Razor-XDr_Melectaus: very few servers in Linux use a GUI05:52
Nomad_1Razor-X: Lol, you're right. But a question that comes to mind that I wouldn't know where to find the answer to: Would compiling in myself, but without making any changes to the code, solve the arch. compatability issue or would that be a solution?05:52
Razor-XNomad_1: compilation should solve the problem05:52
Nomad_1Agamotto: What do you mean by Amiga user?05:52
Razor-Xand then, you can make a .deb for the rest of the community ;)05:53
nickrudjasoncohen, if I install kubuntu-desktop, (and it's dependencies) through aptitude, if I decide to uninstall kubuntu-desktop, aptitude will deinstall all the packages installed to support kubuntu-desktop05:53
Dr_MelectausRazor-X, is there any with one, or one that you can  add a GUI to?05:53
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Razor-XAgamotto: Amiga's rock, no?05:53
bimberimaxy_noob: "unison" is worth a look for that purpose05:53
AgamottoI used to own and program the Amiga computers05:53
Razor-XDr_Melectaus: again, not that I know of05:53
Razor-XI use vsftpd05:53
Razor-Xbut, it's CLI only05:53
Dr_Melectausok05:53
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jesusfishthere an amarok 1.3-b2 deb around anywhere?05:53
nickrudthat is, it provides automatic removal of unused packages05:53
jasoncohennickrud, really....cool05:53
Rusty1Dr_Melectaus: perhaps proftp and a webmin front end05:53
maxy_noobbimberi, when I hear "worth a look" it usually means: less than perfect.05:53
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Belutznickrud: hmmm synaptic don't do that i guess05:54
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Belutznickrud: but aptitude do that? i should've known earlier :D05:54
nickrudBelutz, I think it's supposed to. I'm not sure if aptitude and synaptic use the same package tracking mechanism, tho05:54
jasoncohennickrud, what if you had packages installed prior to intalling kubuntu-desktop that are part of kubuntu-desktop that you don't want to remove?05:54
linlinI need some reccomendations for easy to use video conversion software.  Mainly what im doing is converting divx and xvid files to dvd-burnable ones.  Ive tried tovid, and it doesnt work.  Any suggestions?05:54
Nomad_1Razor-X: That suggests to me that gcc (the program I'm assuming would be used for compilation), is an embedded part of the OS. So because my linux installation is configured for the i86_64 arch. the compiler will produce 64-bit programs. Is that correct?05:54
jasoncohennickrud, they don't05:54
bimberimaxy_noob: It means that it's the best utility I've found (which includes rsync)05:54
nickrudjasoncohen, no, they won't05:54
benplautlinlin: stop being illegal05:54
Razor-XNomad_1: very correct05:54
jasoncoheni believe synaptic uses apt-get's cache05:55
linlinhow do you know im beling illegal05:55
jasoncohenif you use aptitude and apt-get together aptitude's cache will get out of sync and it'll try to do some really crazy things05:55
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Razor-Xgcc is one of those apps that are pretty embedded in the system05:55
Belutznickrud: i was installing kubuntu-desktop, when i uninstall it didn't uninstall all the packages installed with kubuntu-desktop, so i have to uninstalled the rest manually05:55
Razor-Xlinlin: if you're using DivX 3, it's illegal05:55
jasoncohenyou can use synaptic and apt-get together but not aptitude and synaptic or apt-get05:55
linlinthey are vhs converted movie that i made when i was on windows05:55
linlinfrom my camera05:55
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maxy_noobbimberi, ok thanks05:55
benplautoh05:55
nickrudBelutz, yes, that's why I use aptitude :)05:55
oni_hey, anyone know why ps/2 mouses doesn't work in ubuntu?05:55
Razor-Xoni_: what kind of mouse?05:55
bimberimaxy_noob: yw :)05:55
jasoncohenif aptitude can do that, why doesn't synaptic work with aptitude?05:56
Razor-XBelutz: that happens?05:56
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Belutznickrud: *nods*05:56
Nomad_1Razor-X: Thanks. That helps a lot. But you've given me yet another subject to read about :-p. How to compile something into a package for a specific distro (or set of distros). Like making the gkrellm.deb.05:56
oni_ps/2, nevermind the model, it's not the problem05:56
Razor-XNomad_1: ahhh, there I myself do not know05:56
jasoncohenRazor-X, so, you only use aptitude? you never use synaptic right?05:56
BelutzRazor-X: yup... it didn't uninstall all the KDE apps installed with the kubuntu-desktop05:56
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oni_Razor-X: ps/2, nevermind the model, it's not the problem05:56
Razor-Xjasoncohen: used synaptic twice05:57
nickrudjasoncohen, yes you can, they all use libapt, which uses dpkg: what we're talking about is a bit higher level package management: not consistency of the installation, but the consistency of deinstallation05:57
Razor-Xoni_: that's what i'ld think05:57
Nomad_1Razor-X: I'll figure it out and if I happen to remember I'll let you know what I come up with, if you'd want me to of course :).05:57
BelutzRazor-X: i have to eliminate packages with a 'k' in front manually lol05:57
Razor-XPS/2 is pretty much known05:57
Razor-XBelutz: how said ;)05:57
jasoncohenin debian, i tried using aptitude and apt-get together (whichever i felt like using at one at a particular moment) and my aptitude cache got very messed up. aptitude wanted to install programs i had removed for no apparent reason05:57
Razor-Xs/said/sad/05:57
Razor-XNomad_1: I wouldn't mind at all, I have half-a-mind to submit my Eterm with ETwin support05:57
Razor-Xand if/when I become a maintainer -- i'll need to know ;)05:58
BelutzRazor-X, nickrud: man aptitude is adequate enought to learn to use aptitude ?05:58
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Belutz*enough05:58
jasoncohennickrud, i know, but i don't know if it's safe to use aptitude and synaptic together. it sure wasn't safe to use aptitude and apt-get together05:58
Nomad_1Razor-X: Ok, that last bit was greek to me. "Eterm with Etwin support"?05:58
Razor-XBelutz: much better than the website05:58
jasoncohennickrud, it's a known bug of aptitude05:58
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Razor-XNomad_1: Eterm is a terminal emulator, and twin is a nice curses-based desktop (basically, a desktop in CLI)05:58
BelutzRazor-X: hmmm ok :D05:59
nickrudBelutz, /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README05:59
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Razor-XEterm already has native support for screen (that allows multiple sessions in one term, and detaching), and native twin support can be compiled in05:59
Nomad_1Razor-X: CLI?05:59
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Razor-XCommand Line Interface05:59
nickrudjasoncohen, no, a known bug of apt-get, which is now depreciated05:59
Nomad_1ah ok05:59
vader1102help! lol, I have been trying for hours now and still cannot get my laptop here to see the other workgroup pc's05:59
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Nomad_1Razor-X: Sounds interesting.06:00
Razor-Xnickrud: depreciated \nequal deprecated ;)06:00
BelutzRazor-X: isn't Command Line Interpreter ?06:00
jasoncohennickrud, apt-get is deprecated?06:00
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nickrudRazor-X, lol, spelling06:00
Razor-XBelutz: no06:00
jasoncohennickrud, it's the recommended tool to upgrade ubuntu so it can't be too deprecated :)06:00
kabifffyay official ubuntu help!06:00
cafuegostabbing is illegal, isn't it?06:01
BelutzRazor-X: damn!! i was wrong all this time.... lol06:01
kabifffcan somebody give me a hand?06:01
ofer0http://singe.rucus.net/blog/archives/270-Gentoo-vs-Ubuntu-vs-Debian.html06:01
nickrudjasoncohen, yeah, take a look at the sarge release notes06:01
Nomad_1(off topic question... Is there a keyboard shortcut for helping add a user's name to the beginning of these txt msgs in x-chat?)06:01
jasoncohenif aptitude has that functionality, why doesn't synaptic?06:01
ofer0great review of "Gentoo vs Ubuntu vs Debian"06:01
Razor-XBelutz: Interpreters have nothing to do with command line applications06:01
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nickrudjasoncohen, I've been dancing around that question for a bit myself, maybe someone can answer it for us06:01
BelutzRazor-X: ic06:02
jasoncohennickrud, that's because there was a 3 year gap between woody and sarge and the dependencies changed rapidly and in complex ways. In addition, there were circular dependencies that caused problems on some packages regardless of the package management tool used to upgrade06:02
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Belutzbrb guys06:02
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Razor-Xjust as there is an interface with graphics (the Graphical User Interface -- the GUI) there is one using the command-line (the Command Line Interface -- the CLI)06:02
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MobileJesswhere can i get a working firefox?06:02
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Razor-Xcurses is a famous example of a CLI06:02
Nomad_1<nods> DOS is a CLI based OS.06:02
Razor-XMobileJess: the repos have been fixed06:02
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kabifffSo I installed Ubuntu on my USB HD and now whenever I boot, I have a two-fold problem. One, it can't find the kernel, says "Kernel panic" and quits. Also, if I don't have my USB drive connected, it says "grub error 21" and won't boot any further06:02
Razor-XNomad_1: yeahp06:03
kabifffany ideas?06:03
jasoncohennickrud, since ubuntu only upgrades from one release to another (you can't upgrade from warty to breezy for example ...and expect things to work), that won't be a problem for ubuntu. apt-get is fine06:03
cafuegoRazor-X: curses isn't technically CLI, as it has no L.06:03
jasoncohenat least for upgrades06:03
Razor-Xcafuego: but, it's run in the command-line, no?06:03
Burgundaviajasoncohen, there is no particular reason why a warty-->breezy upgrade will not work06:03
Razor-Xbecause twin doesen't have the L either06:03
bimberiMobileJess: The info in /topic summarises the process nicely06:03
jasoncoheni always use apt-get because i find it faster and it will get build dependencies and build from source06:03
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Razor-Xtwin is like non-GUI X06:04
cafuegoRazor-X: Not neccessarily, no. Curses is more of a GUI without VGA mode.06:04
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Razor-Xcafuego: hmmm.... true that06:04
jasoncohenBurgundavia, then, why is it recommended that users upgrade one version at a time?06:04
kabifffany ideas, fellas?06:04
jasoncohen*one release06:04
cafuegoRazor-X: it's got widgets and everything06:04
Seqcafuego: character-based gui is what i've always heard it called06:04
Nomad_1Razor-X: Thanks for you time man. Later.06:04
nickrudjasoncohen, I'm not dissing apt-get, just stroking aptitude :)06:04
jasoncohenBurgundavia, i don't know if that's true06:04
Burgundaviajasoncohen, where have you seen that?06:04
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jasoncohenBurgundavia, i'll get you the link in the second06:05
Razor-Xcafuego: we need a name for that06:05
jasoncohenBurgundavia, this is why i think you're wrong06:05
saintFrancehey guys i just installed ubuntu right now06:05
cafuegoRazor-X: "fast and portable"06:05
Razor-Xcafuego: FAP? ;)06:05
kabifffdid it work saint france?06:05
jasoncohenBurgundavia, package names change and dummy packages are used when names change. if you skip two versions those dummy packages might not exist06:05
saintFranceyes06:05
saintFrancehow do i change my resolution?06:05
saintFrancethe ones i want isnt supported i guess06:05
jasoncohenBurgundavia, let's use the example of someone trying to upgrade from hoary to breezy+106:05
vader1102does anyone have any clues for me for my workgroup?06:05
ofer0saintFrance, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:05
OhpooUbuntu isnt made for geeks, it is made for your Grandma who is too scared to turn on the computer, or the journalist who doesnt have the time or skills to set up a computer. <---- This guy knows how to pick his fighting words lol :)06:06
jasoncohenBurgundavia, breezy has a dummy package for mozilla-firefox but breezy+1 most likely won't06:06
saintFrancewhere is that?06:06
Burgundaviayes06:06
jasoncohenso the upgrade wouldn't work06:06
saintFrancelol i just installed it.. no idea how it works06:06
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ofer0saintFrance, /etc/X11/xorg.conf !!!06:06
bimberisaintFrance: System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution06:06
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AgamottoUbuntu is also for those who don't desire to waste 80% of their time configuring things06:06
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AgamottoThat said, the tools are there if you decided to do so later06:06
saintFranceyah it only goes to 1024x76806:06
saintFrancedoesnt it get any higher?06:07
oni_s**t! it's not a ps/2 , it's a serial COM port!!06:07
kabifffany ideas then why this is happening if it's so easy to use and install?06:07
oni_how do I get a COM mouse to work on ubuntu?06:07
bimberisaintFrance: yes, probably ...06:07
bimberi!resolution06:07
ubotuwell, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:07
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depravewhat does bonobo do?06:07
Agamottokabifff:  Because nothing descends into manifestation without errors06:07
saintFrance!resolution06:07
vader1102oni: did you install with the serial mouse attached?06:07
oni_yep06:08
bimberisaintFrance: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:08
vader1102and it don't work now?06:08
deprave!ubuntu bonobo06:08
ubotuI haven't a clue, deprave06:08
nickrudbonobo is a kind of embedding of apps or app data in gnome; I think it's on it's way out06:08
AgamottoHmmmm, missed it on the tty1 search I would guess06:08
bimberisaintFrance: sorry "!resolution" gets a response from the #ubuntu bot06:08
kabifffthat's a little cryptic there, Agamotto06:08
kabifff:-)06:08
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kabifffany OTHER ideas? this is driving me crazy06:09
AgamottoCryptic, no.  Zen, yes06:09
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kabiffftouche06:09
OhpooThe install was smooth as a babys bum and even autodetected ALL of my hardware unlike Ubuntu. <--- I didn't know the installer was that different?06:09
Agamottokabifff:  Restate problem for me again06:09
OhpooHes talking about debian installer06:09
vader1102oni: did it work during the install?06:10
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kabifffAgamotto: Ubuntu won't load for anything. It loads the kernel and then says "Kernel Panic, killin INIT" or something close. It works with the live disk and all, just not as a boot. it's on a USB drive, if that helps.06:10
jasoncohenBurgundavia, i can't find the link i was referring to at the moment. I believe it was on the ubuntulinux.org site. I'll try to find it tomorrow\06:10
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hopeng-oim following a tutorial about "compiling wineCVS" on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996 , but having problem on sudo apt-get install libgtk-1.2 libgtk-1.2-common . it returns no package available, but i already have unviersal apt06:10
Burgundaviajasoncohen, ok06:11
Agamottokabifff:  A kernel panic is usually due to a module search failure06:11
jasoncohensorry06:11
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kabifffAgamotto: I don't know what that means. How do I fix it, if possible?06:11
ofer0hopeng-o, i had the same problem, what you should do is:06:11
ofer0hopeng-o, sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-common06:11
Agamottokabifff:  I am not sure, but I would assume it would involve a recompile of your kernel06:11
kabifffhmmmmm06:12
AgamottoA bit beyond my current skill set06:12
ColonelKernelyou know, ubuntu is a really nice distro06:12
ericvwalright...so i have found that i need eth1394, ieee1394, and ohci1394 for my firewire; however i am not quite sure what i need to edit so these modules load on boot?  any help/suggestions?06:12
vader1102bimberi: how is your knoledge on samba and workgroups?06:12
hopeng-oofer0, yes tried that06:12
ColonelKernelI gotta give props06:12
kabifffAgamotto: ok, dumb it down as best you can. I'm as green as it gets when it comes to anything other than windows. what are you telling me?06:12
ColonelKernelits debian w more up to date packages06:12
ColonelKernelother than the bummer ass DNS problem Im exceptionally stoked on it.06:13
ofer0hopeng-o, it didn`t work? maybe you don`t have the needed sources in /etc/apt/sources.list06:13
depravewhat are some fun things to install and play with on ubuntu?06:13
jasoncohenBurgundavia,06:13
jasoncohenBurgundavia, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/releases/document_view06:13
bimberivader1102: sketchy at best.  I've seen your questions but don't think I can help sorry06:13
nickrudericvw, hotplug should handle loading those modules; if it doesn't, try adding each module on a separate line to /etc/modules06:13
tiglionabbitdeprave: chromium, neverball06:13
ofer0deprave, Enemy Territories06:13
ericvwthanks!06:13
saintFrancehey how do i run commands?06:13
saintFranceand where?06:13
jasoncohen"Upgrades are supported from each release to the next. If you wish to skip a release, and then update to the latest one, then it is necessary to update the system from your existing release through each intermediate release to get to the release you wish to run.06:13
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vader1102bimberi: is ok, I know the questions can slip by sometimes06:13
Burgundaviajasoncohen, ok06:13
Agamottokabifff:  The kernel panic is due to the kernel not finding some module/s when it is putting itself together for boot.  My guess would be the loopback filesystem module/s, which are responsible for turning your usb stick into a / partition06:13
tiglionabbitdeprave: if you don't mean literally "play", try apache06:13
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ericvwnickrud, do i need to add modprobe in front of each module?06:14
hopeng-oofer0, yes didnt succeded. ill try gain more sources.list06:14
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ofer0hopeng-o, you can get a realy good list @ www.ubuntuguide.org06:14
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nickrudericvw, no, just name each module on a separate line06:14
Agamottokabifff:  Unfortunately, this sort of thing is beyond my current skill level06:14
depravetiglionabbit : i mean something interesting, not a web server hehe06:14
hopeng-oofer0, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories rite ?06:14
depravewhere can i get Enemy Territory06:14
bimberivader1102: usually such things have just worked(tm).  If I go to Places -> Network Servers I can see and connect to shares on the Windows network without having to do anything extra06:14
crimsundeprave: from its official mirrors06:15
jesusfishthere an amarok 1.3-b2 deb around anywhere?06:15
ofer0yeah hopeng-o06:15
jasoncohenBurgundavia, i imagine that's because it would, a) be too difficult to test to make sure you could upgrade from more than one prior distribution and b) there would have to be many unnecessary and potentially problematic dummy packages to aid in the upgrade for users of older distros06:15
jasoncohen*older releases06:15
depravecrimsun : what kind of game is it? does it require a lot of resources?06:15
linlinneverball is the shit06:15
kabifffAgamotto: ok, any ideas on how I can un-install this? My Grub is all messed up now too,whenever I boot up and don't have my external plugged in, all I get is a DOS style screen saying "Grub error 21" and I need to reboot with the USB plugged in.06:15
depraveany neat scientific software for ubuntu?06:15
crimsundeprave: it's a team-based first-person shooter06:15
saintFrancewhat does it mean run "sudo blah blah"06:15
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ColonelKernelis bob2 around?06:16
depravecrimsun : right on.06:16
ColonelKernelnope06:16
Agamottokabifff:  Yes, because GRUB expects to find a volume at /usb or whatever.  I am not sure how to fix the problem06:16
saintFranceguys how do i install some drivers for my sound card?06:17
saintFrancei have the .exe but i cant install it06:17
ofer0what soundcard?06:17
HrdwrBoBsaintFrance: the exe does you no good whatsoever06:17
saintFranceoh.06:17
HrdwrBoBsaintFrance: what is the problem06:17
nickrudsaintFrance, you almost certainly don't want to run that exe :)06:17
AgamottosaintFrance:  sudo - superuser do the rest are the arguments to executed as root06:17
saintFrancewell i dont have drivers for my sound card06:18
Burgundaviajasoncohen, debian has a similar policy06:18
saintFrancewell i have no sound06:18
linlinsaintFrance, lspci and get the name of the soundcard then tell us06:18
saintFrancelspci?06:18
ofer0saintFrance, what type of soundcard ?06:18
kabifffAgamotto: Any ideas on where I can fix this? I had the same problem with Linspire (is that a bad word around here? :-D)  and that REALLY screwed up my grub. I don't want to have to be stuck with an External HD boot for the rest of eternity on my laptop.06:18
saintFranceaudigy 2zs06:18
ofer0heh06:18
linlinmmm06:18
ofer0saintFrance, sure you have drivers06:18
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saintFrancei have the cd06:18
saintFranceit came with06:18
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Agamottokabifff:  I am not expert with GRUB editing06:18
ofer0saintFrance, you just probably don`t know how to set them up06:18
saintFrancederno i just installed ubuntu.. HAVE NO CLUE HOW TO USE IT! ahh06:19
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AgamottosaintFrance:  Ok, but is the driver disc linux drivers or Windows06:19
ofer0saintFrance, www.ubuntuforums.org - they have a good howto about ALSA. use it06:19
zacharysaintFrance you having a problem?06:19
kabifffAgamotto: would anybody here know what to do with Grub?06:19
nickrudsaintFrance, you want to ask crimsun about sound06:19
saintFrancewindows i guess06:19
zacharykabiff what do you want to do with Grub?06:19
Agamottokabifff:  Ask.  Basic idea is - How do I remove a USB key entry from my GRUB boot list06:19
ubuntu_how can i send files to a pc runnin windows xp on my network06:20
zacharyftp06:20
kabifffDoes anybody in here know how to remove a USB key entry from my Grub? I'm pulling my hair out fellas06:20
linlinmount the remote drive with samba client06:20
kabiffflinlin: was that meant for me?06:20
bimberiubuntu_: set up a share on the xp box and try to connect to it from Places -> Network Servers on ubuntu06:20
crimsunsaintFrance: yes?06:21
linlinyes,06:21
kabifffok, what's the samba client and can I use it with windows?06:21
linlinkabifff, you have the folder shared already on the xp box06:21
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kabifffwhere is it?06:21
ubuntu_any reason why it says contents cant be displayed on those boxes??06:22
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kabifffLinlin: where would I find it on my XP box?06:22
saintFranceso what do i do?06:22
linlindo you have the folder shared already on your xp box?06:22
crimsunsaintFrance: paste the output from lspci -v|grep udio onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:23
kabifffnot that i know of06:23
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saintFranceah... u lost me06:23
linlinok do you know how to share a drive/folder on windows?06:23
crimsunsaintFrance: open a terminal, then type lspci -v|grep udio06:23
kabifffI believe so, but isn't that only for networking?06:23
esac_is there a program for linux that will keep track of my ping times/latency to specific sites (say google and slashdot) and let me know the history .. i wanna see when my connection is being slow (like it is right now)06:23
ubuntu_yea one sec checkin to make sure its shairin06:23
crimsunsaintFrance: paste the output from that command onto the paste.ubuntulinux.nl web site06:24
zacharyokay i need some help06:24
zacharyanyone good with dual booting ?06:24
linlinkabifff, is your windows machine the same machine you are suing right now?06:24
linlinsuing=using06:25
linlini.e dual booting?06:25
nickrudzachary, so, so, and I can bail if I need to :)06:25
saintFrancethen what do i do06:25
saintFrance?06:25
bimberinickrud: lol - good answer :)06:25
linlinkabifff, ?06:26
kabifffLinlin: yeah, I installed ubuntu on an external hard drive06:26
zacharynickrud, okay set up the partitions like this: winxp , ubuntu, swap, fat32 shared06:26
linlinok.  What your going to need to do is moint the ntfs hard drive06:26
esac_what package has smbmount ?06:26
ubuntu_yup i have a shared folder open06:26
nickrudzachary, like, hda1,2,3,4?06:26
zacharynickrud, i installed on the ubuntu and it worked fine, it came to the grub loader and i installed it over the mbr06:27
zacharynickrud, exactly06:27
ubuntu_still cant get in06:27
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ColonelKernelyou breezy folks sure do like to update your kernels06:28
ColonelKernel:D06:28
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zacharynickrud, well i had problems with the display putting out a low resolution so i tried to reinstall ubuntu06:28
zacharywhen i did that it took away windows from my selection on grub06:28
nickrudzachary, define 'still can't get in'06:28
nickrudah06:28
nickrudget windows06:28
nickruda sec06:28
ColonelKernelNO06:28
ColonelKernelthats the worst advice ever06:29
ColonelKernelget windows06:29
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zacharyColonel06:29
ColonelKernelwell , maybe "dont worry about condoms" is worse06:29
zacharynot advice06:29
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ubuntu_any reason why  icant get into the shared folders??06:29
zacharyread context please and do not flame06:29
nickrudzachary, np, I just need to create a few links for my breezy thing, so I can see hoary. a sec06:30
lotarwho speaker spanish ?06:30
bimberiubuntu_: could be a permissions thing06:30
zacharyno worries mate, take your time06:30
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nickrudzachary, join #flood, I'll post a generic grub stanza that you can add to the end of /boot/grub/menu.lst, it'll boot a standard windows install06:32
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saintFrance!resolution06:33
ubotuI guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:33
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sataereHey06:34
sataereDoes anyone here use the madwifi package?06:34
vader1102yes I do06:34
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vader1102was easy to use06:34
sataereI'm having trouble connecting.06:34
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eno_hello! :D06:35
vader1102satere: are you getting an error?06:35
sataereI entered my wep key, and it acts as though it connects fine, but I can't ping any systems06:35
sataereNo errors (that I know of) it configures and activates fine06:35
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vader1102ok, have you got the rest of it configured ok?06:36
sataereEverything configures fine, but it won't connect.06:36
sataereI don't know what to tell you or where to go to find errors, I'm used to Gentoo's verbosity.06:37
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vader1102ok, what about the essid? only asking is to be sure06:37
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vader1102what does dmesg tell you about it?06:38
firestormHowdy. Which is the best place to tell my system to automatically load a kernel module at boot-time?06:38
sataereHow do I use dmesg?06:38
vader1102term and type in dmesg06:38
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saintFrance!resolution06:39
ubotuit has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:39
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vader1102I want to be sure that you have the driver in there right or will act crazy06:39
n1xt3rfirestorm: /etc/modules06:39
pankajHi06:40
pankajhellow aru06:40
pankajwanna chat06:40
arunot really06:40
arubut go ahead and die anyway06:40
firestormn1xt3r: excellent, thanks06:40
pankajwhy06:40
pankajfrom where are you?06:41
pankajhellow06:42
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sataerepankaj, This is a room for discussion of Ubuntu.  If you don't know what that is, I suggest you leave.06:42
crimsunit'd be better if pankaj read a bit about Ubuntu. Everyone's welcome, but we need to stay on topic.06:43
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regeyaI wait in fullness06:45
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nJess0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3108 (rev 01)06:45
nJess <---what drivers do i need for this device?06:45
nJessthat was supposed to be one line....06:46
ColonelKernelnJess brand new via chipset mobo w onboard video?06:46
nJessnewish06:47
nJessits an acer laptop06:47
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ColonelKernelHmmm im really sorry I dont know how to help you out w that one, but if you hang out for a bit im sure someone will be able to - what does the system set up in your xorg.conf? vesa?06:48
nJessyes, it does06:48
nJessbut tux-racer won06:48
nJesswon't run properly06:48
zacharynjess whats the problem?06:48
nJessso i imagine this driver won't cut it06:48
saintFrance!sound06:48
ubotu[sound]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206306:48
nJessit lags really bad, poor drivers06:48
ColonelKernelyeah it probably wont - you prob wont be doing any kinda 3d games with the vesa driver06:48
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OhpooColonelKernel, lol that's for use06:49
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OhpooColonelKernel, sure06:49
AgamottoColonelKernel:  I can vouch for that06:49
ColonelKernelzachary he's got a laptop with an onboard via video adapter and he wants DRI06:49
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vader1102oh I hate that you reasearchin a card for someone and they quit lol06:49
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eno_HELLO! :D06:52
benplauthi06:52
eno_I have another annoying question!06:52
arusweet06:52
eno_what is a symbolic link and how do I mkae one?06:52
arudid you ask google?06:52
naliotheno_: a symbolic link is like a "shortcut" in windows06:53
eno_ummmmmm.... maybe06:53
naliotheno_: you can see the man about "ln" or just ln -s target source06:53
eno_thanks06:53
naliothor maybe ln -s source target (you should see the 'man')06:54
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eno_yeah me too buddy ;)06:54
nickrudnalioth, why, did you actually work tonight ;)06:55
naliothnickrud: hold your tongue, mister, i work hard every day06:55
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tspier2I have a problem.06:57
eno_when I install ubuntu, will the java runtime environment be installed automatically, or do I get to download it?06:57
naliotheno_: you'll have to install it06:58
nickrudeno, you must install it yourself06:58
AgamottoYou have to download06:58
nickrud!java06:58
ubotuI guess java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.06:58
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Doomhammerhello all06:58
benplauthi06:58
Doomhammerso I've got a wierd problem with XChat...06:58
eno_thanks ubotu!06:58
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Doomhammerfor some reason, after I reboot the machine, it loses all the Usernames I put into the server list ?06:59
benplaut(ubotu is a bot, you don't really have to thank it06:59
benplaut)06:59
Doomhammerlol06:59
bimberiubotu: thanks06:59
ubotude rien, bimberi06:59
nickrudheh, so, it's thanks at one remove :)06:59
bimberi:)06:59
benplaut-rolls eyes-06:59
zacharynickrud, thanks alot mate, worked out great06:59
Doomhammerany idea why xchat refuses to remember what username I want to use ?06:59
Doomhammerit remembers my nickserv password and stuff... :/07:00
nickrudzachary, great07:00
benplautDoomhammer: make sure the Xchat config files aren't owned by root07:00
benplautoh07:00
Doomhammerah07:00
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Doomhammerer... where are the xchat config files ? :S07:01
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vader1102well, I am off to bed....have been up too late for a week now07:01
AgamottoTime to take out the eyeballs07:01
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nophixDoomhammer: ~/.xchat2 maybe07:01
Doomhammer:P07:02
benplautdunno07:02
Doomhammerrighty-ho07:02
Doomhammerconfig files are owned by me07:02
benplauthmm07:02
Doomhammerbut have permissions -rw-------07:02
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Doomhammerno write perms07:03
benplautrw is read/write07:03
Doomhammerwait...07:03
Doomhammeryes, i know that... but I was thinking that -rwx------ was for root only :P07:03
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Doomhammer:(07:03
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benplaut!info permissions07:04
OrbordeNot to be too whiny, but why on Earth doesn't Ubuntu keep completely up-to-date Firefox packages ready instead of backporting them to the version included in the last Ubuntu release?07:04
nophixOrborde: the answers are in the forums07:04
benplautpackages are frozen after a release07:05
nickrudOrborde, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/07:05
ColonelKernelOrborde ? my firefox is 1.0.607:05
benplautmsg !permissions07:05
benplautwoops07:05
nickrudso far, anyway ;)07:05
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eno_I was raised to hate java and I will die hating java07:05
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benplaut:P07:06
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OrbordeColonelKernel: Well, how'd it get that way?07:06
nickrudepiphany, ahhh07:06
benplauti liked the backported 1.04... it was fast (compiled with gcc407:06
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Orbordenickrud: Um...can you point me to where in this huge document?07:07
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Orbordenophix: Where in the forums?07:07
angel12does anyone use amorok with hoary?07:07
sluggerin what file is the information stored that keeps track of permissions/user/groups per file?07:07
nophixOrborde: use the search07:07
benplautslugger: it's attached to the file, the command is "chmod"...07:08
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sluggerI know the command is chmod, but I thought I heard from someone that the actual permissions isn't stored in the file, it's stored elsewhere07:09
Doomhammerdoes fglrx work well enough to allow for gaming under linux with an ATI card (specifically UT2004...)07:09
jesusfishangel12: I do07:09
Doomhammeri have never gottent it to work properly :/07:09
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angel12jesusfish, do u have sound?07:09
jesusfishangel12: yup07:09
Orbordenophix: Searching's for nerds. Thanks.07:09
nickrudOrborde, no, I can't. I assumed there'd be a section in that that was obviously about what stable is, but I don't see it07:10
asdahow to disable ntp.sinkronisasi guy's07:10
jesusfishangel12: would be pointless using it if I didn't ;)07:10
asdaany one help07:10
nophixOrborde: you're welcome ._.07:10
angel12jesusfish, lmao, i forgot about that, my bad. Did you have to do anything special to get sound working?07:10
Doomhammerasda: you mean how do you prevent ubuntu from syncing the time ?07:10
jesusfishangel12: nope, worked fine right away07:10
asdayes07:10
asdahow to disable it07:10
Doomhammerangel12: what app are you trying to get sound in ? XMMS ?07:10
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Orbordenickrud: Okay, thanks anyways.07:11
Doomhammerangel12: i had to use the eSound codec instead of OSS to get it to work...07:11
nickrudOrborde, sorry07:11
asdaDoomhammer do you now that07:11
Doomhammerasda: do you want to disable it because the time is wrong if you reboot into windows ?07:11
basic_does anyone know how i can set my NIC to run at 10mbit instead of 100mbit, the cat5 cable is too long to run at 100mbit on the box07:12
asdanoo Doomhammer, how to disable it07:12
angel12*new to debian based distro* how do i install a deb package?07:12
asdamy time in indonesian and correct07:12
Doomhammerasda: well, one way is to get rid of the ntpdate package... apt-get remove ntpdate07:12
basic_gpkg07:12
HrdwrBoBangel12: it depends07:12
asdai'm only use ubuntu not m$07:12
HrdwrBoBangel12: what do you want to install07:12
angel12HrdwrBoB, gtkpod v.9407:13
bimberiangel12: dpkg -i foo.deb (but it is best to install using apt-get/synaptic/aptitude)07:13
basic_anyone have a solution for me?07:13
Doomhammerbasic_ what was the question ?07:13
basic_does anyone know how i can set my NIC to run at 10mbit instead of 100mbit, the cat5 cable is too long to run at 100mbit on the box07:14
HrdwrBoBangel12: apt-get install gtkpod or use synaptic to get gtkpod07:14
Doomhammerbasic_: oh... no idea - sorry :(07:14
naliothbasic_: it should autodetect your line speed07:14
basic_well it detects it as 100mbit07:14
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basic_but it's like a 150' cat5 cable and wont run that fast07:14
angel12HrdwrBoB, its not the newest ver07:14
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Doomhammerbasic that is a long-ass cable ! :O07:15
lancer285Hey all, I'm having problems getting/finding transcode07:15
basic_:>07:15
nickrud!backports07:15
ubotuit has been said that backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted07:15
naliothbasic, are you suffering from slow data?07:16
lancer285can anyone tell me where to download transcode for ubuntu??07:16
basic_? im not, my dad is the one who has to deal with the 10mbit, everything else in the house is 100mbit07:16
Doomhammerhow old are you, basic ?07:17
basic_1907:17
Doomhammerah07:17
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basic_only home for the summer, then back to the university07:17
naliothbasic_: your box will move data at best speed, no matter what it says07:17
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basic_hmm, i will see then, i might just make some cat5e and run it instead :p07:18
lancer285does anyone know of a repository that has transcode?? I can't find it07:18
naliothbasic_: or put a hub or switch in the middle07:18
basic_backports has it eh07:18
Doomhammerlancer: have you tried the universal repositories ?07:18
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lancer285doomhammer yes I have that one added, and it says its not there07:18
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basic_that too07:18
Doomhammerlancer: when I turn "apt-cache search transcode", all it turns up is a GTK front-end for it... :/07:19
lancer285doomhammer yes I have the same problem.07:19
BurgundaviaRazor-X, you need to show up at the next CC meetng07:19
Doomhammerheh, seems pretty pointless to have a front-end for something you can't install :P07:19
naliothDoomhammer: transcode in hoary will have to be built via apt from source(s)07:19
lancer285nalioth so I have to add the src repository?07:19
bimberiDoomhammer, lancer285: there is a package in the hoary-extras repository in backports07:19
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naliothlancer285: deb-src lines are wonderful07:20
lancer285bimberi how do I add that repos?07:20
concept10Burgundavia, when in the next meeting07:20
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concept10!repositories07:20
uboturepositories is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos07:20
bimberideb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted07:20
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lancer285bimberi, thanks for the help!07:21
bimberilancer285: yw :)07:21
Burgundaviaconcept10, 20utc, 2 aug07:21
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nickrud!backports07:21
ubotufrom memory, backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted07:21
Burgundaviaanyboyd got a warty install here?07:22
concept10Burgundavia, Thanks.07:22
Madpilothi all07:22
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floppyearshi07:25
floppyearsin order to be able to mount an usb thumb drive do I need to recompile the kernel ?07:26
Doomhammerhiya floppy07:26
crimsunfloppyears: no, just insert it.07:26
floppyearscrimsun: under what /dev is it located ?07:26
Doomhammerisn't it /dev/usb0 and so on ?07:26
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nickruddepends on how it's defined in udev, i think07:27
crimsunfloppyears: it's a mass storage device, so it'll show up as /dev/sdXX07:27
floppyearscrimsun: thanks07:27
orac7000floppyears: mine just works, i didn't have to do anything07:27
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floppyearsorac7000: mine didn't show up I usually have to mount things07:28
lancer285ubotu I'm sorry, I'm having problems getting backports set up as a repos. I enter in  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted into the field, but it doesn't show transcode on the list anywhere when I search07:28
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, lancer28507:28
crimsunfloppyears: make sure scsi_mod is loaded.07:28
orac7000floppyears: ok, like i said mine just worked07:28
jason__can anyone help me with a qt header problem while running ./configure?07:29
lancer285ubotu i'm trying to get transcode installed. but I can't find it07:29
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, lancer28507:29
Doomhammerubotu transcode07:29
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Doomhammer07:29
Burgundavialancer285, transcode is part of hoary-extras07:29
floppyearscrimsun: it is07:29
Doomhammerlol07:29
Doomhammerthe bot is dumb :P07:29
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Amaranthlancer285: ubotu is a bot :D07:29
nalioth!info transcode07:29
bimberilancer285: uboto is a bot, you need a line like this ...07:29
bimberideb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted07:29
lancer285haha, my bad, thanks guys07:29
lancer285deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted07:29
Amaranthlancer285: hoary-extras != hoary-backports07:30
lancer285amaranth, how do I get those to work?07:30
bimberilancer285: only have it enabled for the install, then disable it (eg. comment the line out)07:30
floppyearsthank you guys07:30
nickrudwhat's the difference btween mirrormax backports and the ubuntu backports repository?07:30
Amaranthadd that line to /etc/apt/sources.list07:30
Amaranthnickrud: the ubuntu one is official and sane07:31
cyphasehey everyone07:31
nickrudah, so, that's why there's no transcode07:31
Burgundavianickrud, the mirrormax stuff is the old backports, and is not needed anymore07:31
Amaranthnickrud: that's hoary-extras, a seperate project07:32
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tibetgirlhi07:32
jason__can anyone help me with a qt header problem while running ./configure?07:32
nickrudAmaranth, thanks07:32
Doomhammerhiya tibetgirl07:32
tibetgirlcan I try to dcc send someone a file? I'm having problems here... my dcc send was working fine, but not it's not :(07:32
tibetgirlnow*07:33
Doomhammertibetgirl: try to send it to me07:33
tibetgirlok07:33
tibetgirlooh07:33
Doomhammerwell it worked07:33
tibetgirlDoomhammer: thanks! I thought it was my side :)07:33
tibetgirllol07:33
Doomhammernope :)07:34
lancer285amaranth I put deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted at the end of my /etc/apt/sources.list file, but synaptic didn't reconize it07:34
Amaranthlancer285: You need to click the reload button in synaptic.07:34
Doomhammeror type apt-get update into the console...07:35
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OrbordeI'm trying to share a folder with a Windows 98 machine over ethernet, and the Windows machine, when I try to get to the folder, asks me for a password. What password? I don't know. I tried the root password. I tried my account on my Linux machine's password. I tried no password. "Invalid password". What do I DO?07:37
DoomhammerOrbode: samba07:37
DoomhammerOrborde: the user name on linux and windows needs to be the same... e.g. "pjackson"07:38
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saintFrancehey guys what does it mean that im not the owner and i cant edit anything07:38
lancer285thanks amarath that seemed to work07:38
saintFrancewhat do i do about it07:38
DoomhammersaintFrance: what are you tring to edit?07:38
saintFrancethe xorg.conf07:38
saintFranceso i can add resolutions07:38
nickrudsaintFrance, it's about who ones a file07:38
lancer285amarath are you a bot too?07:38
DoomhammersaintFrace: do this: sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:39
bimberilol07:39
Doomhammerlancer: i am a bot07:39
Doomhammer:)07:39
lancer285sheesh07:39
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lancer285(:07:39
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nickrudsaintFrance, root owns xorg.conf, Doomhammer's line makes you the (temporary) owner of xorg.conf07:39
Doomhammernickrud: that would allow him to edit it though, which is what he is trying to do07:40
nickrudyes, that's why I pointed at you (duh ;p)07:41
saintFrancewaht do u mean root owns the conf07:41
saintFrancewait id otn get how linux works lol07:41
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Doomhammer:O07:41
DoomhammersaintFrace: google for "linux file permissions" or something07:41
saintFranceoh i edit it how do i save?07:41
nickrudsaintFrance, if you type ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you'll see that root owns the file07:41
Doomhammeryou used nano ?07:41
Doomhammerhit CTRL+X and then enter07:41
saintFranceyh07:41
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saintFrancethank you07:42
Doomhammerthen, to test the new changes, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE but beware, that closes anything you have running (kills x.org)07:42
OrbordeDoomhammer: So if I create a user account on my Linux machine corresponding to the Windows machine's current account, that should work without a reboot, right?07:42
vladuz976can anyone recommend a good keyboard?07:43
DoomhammerOrborde: yes, but you need to set that user's samba password... smbpasswd is the command07:43
Doomhammervladuz976: one moment...07:44
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Doomhammervladuz976: these Deck keyboards are damn sweet, but expensive... http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/72e2/07:44
MadpilotsaintFrance: if you put "gedit" where Doomhammer's line had "nano" you'll get a GUI-based text editor with no need for extra keyboard commands07:44
DoomhammerLOL07:44
Doomhammerbut that is not the cool way to do it ;)07:44
nickrudlate, late late07:45
MadpilotDoomhammer: not trying to start an editor war, but gedit is way easier for newbies!07:45
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grumblyhey07:45
saintFrancebah it didnt work still07:45
DoomhammerMadpilot: yes, i know... i was joking :)07:45
saintFrance:( bah i cant get higher reso than 1024x76807:45
DoomhammersaintFrace: what video card ?07:45
Amaranth!resolutions07:45
ubotuAmaranth: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:45
Amaranth!resolution07:45
ubotuI guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:45
saintFrancenvidia geforcefx550007:45
grumblyHow can I get a midi sequencer to work through alsa?07:45
vladuz976Doomhammer: that's a weird one07:46
AmaranthsaintFrance: ^^07:46
Amaranththe bot knows all07:46
grumblyI'm like horibly unsure07:46
saintFranceyah i went there.. and no clue what to do07:46
saintFrancell07:46
saintFrancelol07:46
OrbordeDoomhammer: It's spewing errors at me...07:46
Doomhammervladuz976: yes, but one of the better ones you can buy...07:46
DoomhammerOrborde: smbpasswd is ? are you root / did you sudo ?07:46
grumblyrather, how can I get a softmidi to work with alsa- I;ve got no actual midi07:46
vladuz976Doomhammer: does it just look cool or is it good? do you have it?07:46
Doomhammervladuz976: no, i do not personally have it -- i'm only 14... i do not have that much $$$07:47
Doomhammervladuz976: however, I have heard many good things and no bad about it07:47
OrbordeDoomhammer: Yes, I sudod. Let me set up an error dump.07:47
Doomhammervladus976: or you could always go with a logitech elite wireless keyboard / mouse combo07:47
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saintFrancebah linux is soooo different from windows07:47
vladuz976Doomhammer: is that what you have07:47
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nickrudsaintFrance, welcome :)07:48
Doomhammervladus976: that's not what I have on my PC, but the "family pc" has that set... the logitech elite... it is damned sweet07:48
MadpilotsaintFrance: you'll get used to it!07:48
saintFrancei still cant get a higher reso to pop up the change reso menu07:48
saintFrancelol07:48
nothingssomethinhow do i stop apps fom starting up on login?07:48
nothingssomethinanyone know?07:48
DoomhammersaintFrance: if you send me your xorg.conf file, I can setup a different resolution for you07:49
lancer285saintfrance I would make sure that your monitor type is set to the right one07:49
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NicPnothingssomethin, whats starting up07:49
Doomhammerwell, assuming you have everything configured properly...07:49
saintFrancealright ill send it to you07:49
DoomhammerNicP: look in /etc/init.d07:49
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nothingssomethinummm alot of things07:49
NicPDoomhammer, eh?07:50
OrbordeDoomhammer: Never mind...I got it. I had to add the user using smbpasswd07:50
Madpilotnothingssomethin: be a bit more specific?07:50
vladuz976Doomhammer: you are 14? how long have you been using ubuntu?07:50
DoomhammerNicP: all init scripts are stored in /etc/init.d07:50
Doomhammervladuz976: since warty came out... however, I have been using linux since RedHat 7 :O07:50
NicPDoomhammer, you just addressed it to the wrong person thats all :P07:50
DoomhammerNicP: oh... LOL :P07:51
vladuz976Doomhammer: when was that07:51
nothingssomethinnicp: messinger, music player, browser, and shell07:51
saintFrancehey doomhammer accept07:51
nothingssomethin messinger, music player, browser, and shell07:51
Doomhammervladuz976: hmm, i'd guess about 5-6 years ago... still had a 486 :O07:51
saintFranceaccept the file07:51
nothingssomethinweb browser07:51
OrbordeDoomhammer: The errors are questionable, though, so you may still want to take a look. Yes, I did use sudo at a root terminal. http://pastebin.com/32660107:51
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DoomhammersaintFrance: it says it's trying to connect :/07:51
nothingssomethinand i want none of them to startup on login07:51
saintFrancebah!07:52
NicPnothingssomethin, as doomhammer said look in /etc/int.d or/and check in system>preferences>sessions07:52
saintFrancehey lancer, what did u mean i set up my monitor type as right one?07:52
DoomhammersaintFrance: x.org may think that you have a monitor, that in fact you do not have07:52
DoomhammersaintFrance: wrong driver, or something to that effect07:53
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nickrudnothingssomethin, then, close all the stuff you don't want to start up, and start any other stuff you want to run every time you log in: then hit alt-f2, and type gnome-session-save07:53
saintFranceso that may casue it to not have higher resolutions?07:53
saintFranceso how do i check that?07:53
DoomhammersaintFrance: you can configure it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but there is a GUI config tool07:53
lancer285sainFrance I'm guessing, but if X thinks that the monitor is just some generic tube, then it won't let you get the higher res's07:53
DoomhammersaintFrance: yes, but you may also need to install the nVidia drivers for your card07:53
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saintFrancei see.. how do i install nvidia drivers07:53
Amaranth!nvidia07:53
basic_apt-get07:53
uboturumour has it, nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto07:53
saintFrancelol i pretty much cant install any exe07:53
saintFrancelol Amaranth07:54
Belutzi'm back all :D07:54
DoomhammersaintFrance: exe's are windows programs... of course not :)07:54
MadpilotsaintFrance: no, exe doesn't work in Linux, generally07:54
basic_gotta get cxoffice and cedega :)07:54
nothingssomethinit's not in htere07:55
nothingssomethinit's not in there07:55
DoomhammersaintFrance: in linux, file extenstions do not matter as much as they do in WinBlows... i can name somescript.bin (an executable file) somefile.txt and still run it07:55
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nothingssomethini cheked int.d07:55
robinparkerhello07:55
nothingssomethinand the sessinons07:55
Doomhammernothingsomethin: the init scripts are in subdirectories of /etc/init.d... for isntance, /etc/init.d/rc.207:56
lancer285anyone know anything about tovid?07:56
saintFrancealright im installing nvidia driver07:56
robinparkercan anybody help me get widows07:56
robinparkerwindows07:56
nothingssomethinyes i cheked them07:56
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Doomhammernothingssomethin: oh wait, no, i'm wrong, the init scripts are in /etc/init.d, no subdirs07:56
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Belutzrobinparker: windows or X-windows ?07:56
Doomhammerrobinparker: huh ? you gotta be a bit more specific :?07:56
nothingssomethini knew what you men't tho07:57
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saintFrancebrb restarting07:57
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OrbordeShould I shut down Firefox before using Synaptic to upgrade it?07:58
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saintFrance!nvidia07:58
ubotumethinks nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto07:58
DoomhammerOrborde: hmm, i would think so07:58
robotgeekOrborde: no need07:58
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nickrudnothingssomethin, the things you mentioned are handled by gnome-session, if the're handled by anything.07:58
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Orborderobotgeek: Why not? I thought not, but I wasn't sure.07:59
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ubotuROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT has landed!07:59
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nothingssomethinthat's what i thought too07:59
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robotgeekOrborde: cause firefox is already loaded in memory08:00
robotgeekthanks, ubotu08:00
amrithi.  anyone know if there's a way to boot the ubuntu live disc in text mode?08:00
OrbordeDoomhammer: Why would I need to shut it down? This is Linux! You're not supposed to have to do that! Or something.08:00
nothingssomethinbut when i log in with root nothing comes up08:00
Madpilotwho made ubotu say that, anyway?08:00
supernixguys just curious shouldnt you never see a root login ?08:00
nothingssomethinit is blank08:00
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Madpilot!rootsude08:00
ubotuI haven't a clue, Madpilot08:00
DoomhammerOrborde: i dunno, i'm not even sure you need to shut it down... try it without shutting it down08:00
Madpilot!rootsudo08:00
supernixAs I recall the root login is disabled by default08:00
uboturootsudo is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo08:00
Madpilotnothingssomethin: see the RootSudo link ubotu just posted for info08:01
nickrudsupernix, now and then, especially if you use some web based admin systems08:01
Amaranthamrit: If you're really the root user you should know that it's a bad idea to IRC as root.08:01
robotgeekOrborde: since it's in memory already, replacing the one on disk will not affect it...apt get is intelligent enuf to tell you if u need to08:01
OrbordeDoomhammer: Yeah, that's the plan.08:01
amritAmaranth: yeah, and someone should fix the crappy text matching support in infobots... for the last few years now.08:01
supernixI know that you can sudo into it that I am aware of but like if you do w root should never show up I would think right ?08:01
Orborderobotgeek: woo for Linux. Sometimes more intelligent than windows!08:02
robotgeekmostly, yes08:02
Belutzwhich linux distro that the first using sudo ?08:02
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saintFranceso i installed the nvidia driver.. now what/08:02
robotgeeksudo is just a program which was there in Debian AFAIK08:02
robotgeekOS X also uses sudo08:02
Orborderobotgeek: See, this is part of why I find Linux so glorious. I can screw around with my network and whatnot all I want and I don't ever have to reboot.08:02
Amaranthamrit: ...08:02
robotgeekOrborde: :) may the source be with you!08:03
Amaranthamrit: Don't get on IRC with a user name like that and you won't have to complain about the bots.08:03
DoomhammerOrborde: and, unlike win98, there aren't 100 reboots during the install ! :D08:03
nickrudsupernix, I'll give a specific example: I need a root account so I can get around the disabling of the cups web admin interface08:03
Madpilothmmm -  anyone else use BitTorrent here? gnometorrents specifically?08:03
nickrudsupernix, sudo is not perfect08:03
saintFranceso guys.. i still dont have any higher resolutions.. i installed the nvidia drivers08:03
nothingssomethinbut how can sudo help starting up programs08:03
amritAmaranth: or... i could expect that a bot would be able to distinguish between r00t and root?  is that too much to ask?08:03
Doomhammernickrud: you can "create" a root acound by doing this: sudo passwd root08:03
nickrudheh08:04
nothingssomethini enabled login with root account with ubuntu08:04
saintFrancewhats a root account?08:04
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DoomhammersaintFrance: root == good08:04
Doomhammergod, i mean08:04
nothingssomethinyes08:04
DoomhammerLOL08:04
saintFranceso how do i get one?08:04
robotgeeka root account is a superuser/admin acct08:04
Amaranthamrit: But why have R00T if you know the bot is going to do it?08:04
saintFrancei see08:04
saintFranceso thats why my account isnt root?08:04
nothingssomethinyou can fuc* up your comp that way08:04
Amaranthamrit: Do you think it makes you look cool?08:04
robotgeekAmaranth: :)08:05
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DoomhammersaintFrance: yes, it's a safety measure... root can fux0r the system badly08:05
Doomhammerif he so chooses :)08:05
nothingssomethinyou already have on08:05
saintFrancehaha i see08:05
amritAmaranth: absolutely.08:05
robotgeekfubar, is the word08:05
Doomhammermeh08:05
nothingssomethinwhen you do something as su it baiscily does it as root08:05
Amaranthamrit: Well, complaining about the bot 5 seconds after joining killed any chance of that. :)08:05
saintFrancei see08:05
saintFrancewell is it better to have a root account?08:05
Amaranth!rootsudo08:05
ubotuI heard rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo08:05
nothingssomethinstands for super user08:05
robotgeeksaintFrance:  not really, you shud go root, only only if you really really need to!08:06
nothingssomethinno see you have one08:06
amritAmaranth: complaining about bots is always cool.08:06
amritAmaranth: so, any idea how to get this damn live disc into text mode instead of having to wait for X/gnome?08:06
nothingssomethinyou have a root account you can use it in shell08:06
nickrud!ubotu rocks08:07
ubotunickrud: I don't know, could you explain it?08:07
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robotgeekamrit: me don't like ppl cribbing abt me or me cousins08:07
saintFrancelol i just installed ubuntu.. i have no clue how to use it so lol08:07
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amrit...08:07
Amaranthamrit: I believe it's a boot up option if you catch it at the right point. And please don't swear.08:07
nothingssomethinbut i enabled my account to be able to be used in the ubuntu gnome GUI08:07
nothingssomethinGUI = graphical user interface08:07
DoomhammerGUI = jello ?08:08
Doomhammer:)08:08
robotgeekAmaranth: shudn't ctrl + alt + f1 etc work?08:08
nothingssomethinok08:08
saintFranceanyway guys.. so what can i do about my reso?08:08
nothingssomethintry this08:08
saintFranceor should i just leave it at 1024x76808:08
Amaranthrobotgeek: He would have to wait for it to load X before doing that.08:08
nothingssomethingo to applications08:08
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nickrudrobotgeek, you using breezy?08:08
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Razor-Xdoes anything in Ubuntu listen to SMTP by default?08:08
robotgeekAmaranth: ah okay08:08
Amaranthamrit: Of course the main point of the Live CD is to demo Ubuntu so this may not be possible.08:08
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