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stubelmo: ok. That would be good. I'll let the DNS settle for a few days12:08
stub(yes - that is a rationalization)12:08
stubcronscripts will keep running on macquarie for a bit too12:10
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elmo... ?12:16
jordimy leg hurts again, SUDDENLY12:16
elmostub: ok, bugs.l.n and l.n mail now exists and works in the sameway as l.u.c, so feel free to switch both/either over whenever12:19
stub:)12:19
elmodo we still need the notready.u.c redirections?12:26
elmowe have it on bounties.*, lists.* and soyuz.*12:27
stubI hope not :)12:27
elmook12:27
elmoName  Title  Domain Name12:27
elmoubuntu Ubuntu Linux ubuntulinux.org12:27
elmocan someone fix that in the DB?12:27
elmo(i.e. to be ubuntu.com)12:27
stubok12:27
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.5: new build (patch-71)12:28
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elmocarlos: it's simple, ul.o is deprecated12:29
SteveAubuntulinux.org is deprecated12:29
stubfuxed12:29
elmobut due to a never-ending plone story, we can't kill it12:29
elmostub: cheers12:29
SteveAaw, major suck12:29
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar--devo--1.5: Allow replay --upto to be used outside the current version (patch-57: Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr)12:29
SteveAisn't that fixed yet?12:29
elmoSteveA: I dunno, vikka was making noises like it might be - I'll check/chase12:30
carloselmo, SteveA ok12:31
elmois it worth reporting bugs about the soyuz web interface yet, or is it still pretty raw?12:31
carlosnow that the wiki is not inside plone anymore, it should not be a big problem12:31
elmocarlos: yeah12:32
elmook, l.u.c redirected to l.n12:32
Kinnisonelmo: Report bugs12:32
Kinnisonelmo: Otherwise we'll not know what to concentrate on12:32
Kinnisonelmo: thanks12:32
elmoKinnison: this is trivial stuff, but ok12:32
Kinnisonelmo: Low-hanging fruit is satisfying, so go ahead12:32
cprovbradb: what  is wrong with bug #1613 ? I can't edit (  https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bugs/1613/+edit)12:35
elmoand rosetta.u.c done too12:36
jordicarlos: when is Rosetta 1.0 happening?12:36
jordicarlos: hrm, Rosetta is telling me .za languages are my preferred.12:37
jordiI don't speak a word of xhosa tho :)12:37
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carlosjordi, that's because there is a problem to get the country from where your ip address is from12:41
carlosjordi, does it happen always?12:42
carlosjordi, 1.0 should happen this week, today we are having a production update that should speed a bit Breezy imports12:42
jordinod12:44
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mptcarlos, what's Spanish for "Support sources for Ubuntu Epiphany"?12:50
jordiwhat does it mean? :)12:51
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jordiSupport is verb or noun?12:51
carlosmpt, please, give me some extra context...12:53
mptcarlos: This is for the page listing help and support options12:55
mptfor a package12:55
carlosmpt, "Fuentes de informacin sobre Ubuntu Epiphany"12:57
carlosjordi, please, could you improve it? my translations is too literal12:57
dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [r/2=bradb,rs=sabdfl,trivial]  Assorted minor fixes to Malone: fix bugwatches, improve linking, remove lint warnings, UI cleanups. Fixes bugs 1622, 1479, 1465, 1340, 1401, 1402, and others which nobody had the time or patience to file. (patch-2200: christian.reis@canonical.com)01:02
carloskiko, and you want it into production *now* ?01:02
carlos;-)01:03
kikoYES01:03
jordiDO IT01:04
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jordicarlos: at this time of the day, that seems good enough01:05
jordibecause FFuentes informativas is worse I guess01:06
carlosjordi, Fuentes informativas sucks...01:07
Nafalloyay! new error while trying to add GPG-key :-)01:11
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Nafallobitches about it's inability to import my key and gives me an URL.01:12
Nafallothat URL works though, and my fingerprint _is_ correct :-)01:12
mptthanks carlos+jordi01:16
carlosmpt, you are welcome01:18
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cprovNafallo: It's not expected to be working for you yet, did you get a different error ?01:29
Nafallocprov: yes, with launchpad.net :-)01:30
jordinite01:30
Nafallocprov: Launchpad could not import GPG key, the reason was: at http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x509CBA71&op=get.Check if you published it correctly in the global key ring (using gpg --send-keys KEY) and that you add entered the fingerprint correctly (as produced by gpg --fingerprint YOU). Try later or cancel your request.01:31
cprovNafallo: sh.. probably connection problems between production and keyserver. did you try again ?01:33
Nafallocprov: yea, tried a couple of times.01:33
Nafallocprov: staging.u.c did not work, there was the old error ;-)01:34
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cprovNafallo: uhmm ... old error is ok, since we didn't fix it yet ;)01:35
cprovNafallo: I'll try to sort out this lack of access to the keyserver01:36
Nafallocprov: thanx. you will not get a bug about it then :-)01:37
elmocprov: fixed01:38
cprovNafallo: no, please post it, bug is my life ;)01:38
cprovelmo: great elmo !01:38
Nafallocprov: hehe, shall I mark it fixed? :-)01:39
Nafalloelmo: nice and quick one :-). now that I have you hear. you ack mails to upload@ and keyring@, right?01:39
cprovNafallo: yeah,  it should start filling your karma ;)01:40
Nafallocprov: is there a use for karma? ;-)01:40
cprovNafallo: every new year you can convert it in US$, 1 x 10 ... ehe joking ... 01:42
Nafallohehehe01:42
cprovNafallo: activity measuments, we can easily who is contributing, don't you wanna be recognized as the guy rocking in LP ?01:43
Nafallocprov: naah. I'll just show the guys that I'm active in other areas aswell :-).01:44
jblackcprov: I'd love to know more about the activity measurements01:46
cprovNafallo: sure, it still being possible ... what did you do ? ... apart of crash lp gpg component ;)01:46
Nafallocprov: hehe. leader of translation team +MOTU :-)01:47
Nafallocprov: alone in universe security I think :-P01:47
cprovjblack: salgado is the man, but what do you like to know ? we have sorted it last week (soyuz and malone events)01:48
Nafallocprov: will rosetta be raising my karma at some point? :-)01:49
cprovNafallo: .duhh, your karma promises ...01:49
Nafallohehe :-)01:49
cprovNafallo: sure it will, ASAP 01:49
jblackcprov: Anything you're interested in bragging about. 01:50
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cprovjblack: now that you mentioned we blocked karma points for "imports" and other stuff done by canonical staff (salary sounds better than karma points :-P)  01:53
jblackwhy? 01:53
jblackaw man, that sucks! I'd have killer karma!01:54
cprovjblack: sure, you would  ... that's why we avoid it, it should require python patch to supoort such a big integer ;)01:56
ddaacprov: you need to upgrade python, bigints were supported for a while ;)01:56
Mezcprov, I'll willingly trade in my karma for a salary01:57
cprovjblack: to be far, if a bug comment is 1 point, IMO, a import should be 1000 (pgsql developers would cry)01:57
Nafallocprov: what's a bug fix?01:58
ddaathat's a widely debated questions and seemingly intellingent people have widely differing opinion on whether a particular patch is a bug fix01:59
Nafalloddaa: marking a bug as fixed01:59
cprovMez: who wouldn't want it ?  fun + salary 01:59
Mez:)02:00
Mezcprov, wanna give me a salary instead then?02:00
ddaatell you a think02:00
ddaaif a salary means doing imports all the day for three months02:00
cprovNafallo: yes, that is the pratic definition.02:00
ddaayou'd rather have karma points...02:00
Nafallocprov: so. how many points is a marking a bug fixed then? :-)02:01
Nafallos/a\ //02:02
cprovNafallo: https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/MaloneKarma -> public spec AFAIKs02:02
Nafalloyay02:02
cprovNafallo: briefly, fix = 10 points02:02
ddaaI'm confused...02:03
ddaaI have that CGI at my ISP02:04
ddaaI can run it manually "spyce.cgi ../spy/index.spy" from shell, and it works02:04
Nafallocprov: hehe. nice. I got 10 points for doing nothing then :-)02:04
ddaabut when I run it through the server, I get a 500 and an error log "Premature end of script headers: spyce.cgi"02:05
ddaaanybody got an idea?02:05
cprovNafallo: fix a bug could be easy, but don't forget we decrease your karma if someone reopened it ;)02:05
Nafallocprov: well, I think seb128 forgot to close a bug I reported. I got 10 points for his work then :-)02:06
cprovNafallo: don't think so, the assignee wins karma02:08
Nafalloah, clever :-P02:10
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cprovNafallo: nice talk, see you tomorrow02:10
cprovjblack: take care, btw, bought some gifts for your kid, send me your address02:12
jblackHeh.02:12
jblackSure, I can email you, though its on the offices page too02:13
jblack  sent02:15
jblackI also send you a belayed thank you for having me. 02:16
jblackI should have sent that as soon as I got back, but I think I forgot. You and Janes were both a pleasure to stay with02:16
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dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  minor UI fixes to tracker/trackersets (and rosetta translation lists); adds nickname to bug details portlet. Also unbreak CVE refs action portlet title (patch-2201: christian.reis@canonical.com)02:52
ddaahttp://ddaa.net/blog03:11
ddaagot it, at last03:11
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sivangWho's responsible for the .deb / apt integration that soyuz must probably have? Or am I mistaken completely and Lunachpad knows nothing about a specific packaging system, being said to store other distributions as well ?07:57
bob2it would only need metadata, surely?07:57
sivangI don't know, I'm ready to hear some elaboration :)07:59
bob2presumably the launchpad wiki has details08:00
sivangbob2: ok, the baz/arche/launchpad integration is probably also outlined there?08:02
bob2yes08:03
sivangbob2: k, thanks08:03
sivangbah, that wiki is a mess :)08:05
sivanghttps://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/DatabaseSetup , can I now create my own launchpad or is it for internal use?08:07
bob2er08:08
bob2do you have the LP source?08:08
sivangno :)08:09
bob2then "no" ;)08:09
sivangI must improve my logic skills :)08:10
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/dists--bazaar--1.5: new build (patch-72)08:27
dilysMerge to thelove@canonical.com/bazaar--devo--1.5: Deprecate (but not remove) "abrowse", rename "rbrowse" to "browse" (patch-58: Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr)08:30
sivangdoes anybody know when jamesh comes online?08:54
sivang(I need him for some launchpad desktop integration discussion)08:55
bob2probably better off emailing him08:55
sivangbob2: already did, I guess his on the road or something?08:55
bob2he might be in brazil08:55
sivangk, thx08:56
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jordimorning11:10
jordijamesh: sivang was looking for you11:10
jameshjordi: I was flying11:11
bob2excuses, excuses!11:11
jameshRio -> Sao Paulo -> Buenos Aires -> Auckland -> Sydney -> Perth11:13
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jordijamesh: oh dude11:17
jordisounds like fun11:17
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SteveAjordi: ping03:12
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SteveAjordi: ping ping03:20
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yanivHello, I was wandering if someone could help me upload hebrew .po files I located, as I'm not an appointed translator03:33
yaniv ,       ?03:34
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carlosyaniv, I think we don't have an Hebrew translation team, would you want to create it?03:37
morgsyaniv: carlos and daf are the translation experts. They're in a lot of planning meetings at the moment but should be around later...03:37
morgsor now...03:37
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carlosmorgs, ;-)03:37
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dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  Change table to ul for listing bazaar branches (patch-2202: morgan.collett@canonical.com)03:44
yanivthanks. I was taliking to sivang, and it seems he has requested to create a team.03:49
carloshmm03:54
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carlossivang, is it created already?03:55
sivangcarlos: ah cool03:57
sivangcarlos: why didn't I get any notification from launchapd?03:57
kikobecause launchpad doesn't love you03:57
sivangkiko: ah!! /me cries03:57
sivangkiko: please make launchapd love me :)03:57
sivangkiko: I love him back, just overwhalmed with the comlexity :)03:57
lifelessstub is mail on gangotri setup ?03:57
stublifeless: No idea.03:58
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sivangcarlos: ah damn, I've even worse at memory then you :) I just sent an email to rosetta@ubuntu.com as you explained and got no reply, is the translation group ready or not?03:59
nakeecarlos, there is a convention in 2 days and we want to annonce its opening04:00
sivangnakee: nothing to announce actually04:00
nakeesivang, ofcourse there is04:00
nakeewe want people to use it04:00
sivangnakee: just one more translation group among many others :)04:00
nakeesivang, yea but for hebrew translation groups04:00
sivangnakee: ofcourse mails and posts at local commuinity sites will be made04:00
nakeesivang, AP4 is a perfect place to annonce it04:01
carlossivang, I'm asking, because daf did some work on that but I'm not sure your team was created04:01
nakeeand get some motivation into people to use it04:01
carlosif you didn't get the email, I suppose it's not 04:01
sivangcarlos: right04:01
carloswill try to sort it today04:01
sivangkiko: 'sup ? :)04:01
mptkiko's busy hacking04:01
sivangcarlos: thanks 04:01
nakeesivang, some people stoped using rosetta becauseof that04:02
carlossivang, https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/rosetta/groups/ubuntu-translators/ that's the current list of teams we have04:02
sivangcarlos: k, no prob , anyways I should get an email when it is ready right?04:02
carlosnakee, jordi just join the team to care about things like that so we don't delay it so much04:02
carlossivang, yeah, I will send you an email04:02
sivangmpt: I just hope "launchpad doesn't love you" is a joke :)04:03
mptLaunchpad keeps track of karma, but not love yet04:03
mptlove and zen are not yet implemented04:03
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nakeecarlos, yea it was too bad until I got people intrested it stop working for them all the sudden04:04
niemeyerGreetings!04:04
bob2mpt: you should spec that out04:04
sivangmpt: hehe, well, most of my activies (launchpad integration work, testing, brainstomring) aren't in launchpad yet, so I gues I have zero karma04:04
kikoI have some love in a box I can share04:04
kikogustavo niemeyer, take a bow04:04
kikohow's it going?04:05
sivangkiko: when are you coming over here for your ph.d ? ;-)04:05
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niemeyerkiko!04:05
niemeyerkiko: Everything's fine04:05
niemeyerkiko: Handling documentation and preparing for the move04:05
SteveAhi gustavo04:06
niemeyerGreetings Steve!04:06
niemeyerHave you all survived the weekend activities? :)04:07
kikosivang, I will probably visit in february04:08
kikoniemeyer, we did, and survived RJ again last week04:08
kikoniemeyer, documentation is fun04:08
niemeyerkiko: RJ? Wow.. you're brave :)04:09
kikoniemeyer, 15 gringos and a bottle of rum04:10
niemeyerOuch!04:10
lifelesselmo = http requiests are still hitting macquaries launchpad instance04:14
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lifelessbwah, typing bad amI04:14
elmolifeless: *shrug* all possible DNS names it'll answer to have been changed04:16
elmoAFAICS - i.e. {rosetta,launchpad}.ubuntu{.com,linux.org}04:16
lifelesslaunchpad.net http - does that land on gangotri ?04:18
elmoyes04:18
elmolaunchpad.net has address 82.211.81.17904:18
elmo^-- gangotri04:18
lifelessk.04:18
lifelesscan we add a redirect to the http port on macquarie for those dns names to gangotri ?04:19
lifeless(the ubuntu.* names)04:19
elmoI don't see how it'll help04:19
elmoif someone has the old DNS, it'll just them into an infinite loop04:19
lifelessstub and I would like to turn off the lp instance on chinstrap.04:19
lifelessoh.04:19
lifelessok, we'll keep it running for 24 hrs04:19
SteveAthat would teach them04:20
elmoI could send them to www2.launchpad.net  or something, if you want04:20
SteveAdarned old dns people04:20
lifelessnah, its not worth hoopss.04:20
niemeyermpool: Ping!04:21
mpoolniemeyer: high, welcome!04:22
niemeyermpool: Hiho! :)04:22
mpoolstill no sign of ddaa?04:22
niemeyerddaa?04:22
Keybukniemeyer: heyhey04:26
niemeyerKeybuk!04:26
mpoolniemeyer: ddaa = david allouche04:26
niemeyerAh, ok :)04:26
bob2ddaa was around last night04:27
bob2trolling himself about french military conquests, no less04:27
lifelesselmo are you seeing denied requests from gangotri ? geoip isn't working ... suspect it needs outside access04:50
dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [r=bradb, trivial]  Partial fix for bug 1094: Trying to comment without login should show the login page. We now at least show a special message when the user is not logged in; however, we don't handle cases where the end-user logs out 'out-of-band'. Also does cosmetic fixes to the add comment 'widget'. (patch-2203: christian.reis@canonical.com)04:51
dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/dists--devel--0: [trivial]  production-1.27 config (patch-103: stuart.bishop@canonical.com)04:52
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kikosalgado, ping? re bug 319.05:04
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dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  Bug 1639 - use launchpad.net URLs in RDF documentation (patch-2204: morgan.collett@canonical.com)05:20
lifelessjamesh: cprov has a fix for gpg to allow the use of subkeys in coc signing. I'd like to get that into production ;). Its in your review queue ... :)05:27
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jblackelmo: ping05:30
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elmojblack: ?05:42
jblackelmo: Have you heard any problems with ssh timeouts? 05:42
elmonope?05:43
ddaaRight, it's mildly annoying to be able to use the same ssh connection all week long05:43
ddaasometimes it does not even last one day05:43
ddaa(I mean ssh to data center)05:44
jblackOk. I'm getting timeouts on the supermirror servers... ~ 10 minute timeouts. 05:44
elmoeh, I've had ssh sessions to the data centre last months05:44
elmoliterally05:44
elmoso it's not a generic problem05:44
elmohave you tried adjusting/using ServerAliveInterval in ~/.sssh/config?05:44
jblackYeah. I used to too. Feel bad about seeing a tty where I was logged in for three days. 05:44
ddaa300 here05:45
jblackI'll try a couple other places and see if I time out there as well. 05:46
lifelessddaa - mpool will be asking about samba imports, can you make getting-that-testing a priority please, its for a possible bzr migration05:46
ddaajblack: you should not feel bad about it, those servers could probably take a few thousands idle ttys before feeling any pain.05:46
jblackSamba? Nice! 05:46
ddaa"getting-that-testing"?05:47
ddaa"samba"?05:47
dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  Bug 1279: linkify baz branches and use zero width space to allow line breaking (patch-2205: morgan.collett@canonical.com)05:47
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lifelessa roomba run of it, and obvious problems addressed. would like to know whether its likely to work or not05:47
morgsddaa: ^^ dilys "has" some "good" "news" for you...05:48
ddaamorgs: cool, I'll look at staging "soon"05:48
jblackwe're having scaling problems on the supermirror, btw05:49
ddaaseriously, my main concern is just to avoid screwing the page layout with stupidly large lines05:49
morgszero width spaces seemed to work... of course I have not tried alternative (proprietary) browsers... :)05:50
jblackpyarch/baz may be too heavy. 05:50
ddaahttps://macquarie.warthogs.hbd.com/roomba/status/waterfall?criteria=samba05:50
lifelessmorgs are you showing urls now ?05:50
ddaanot anything I can fix myself05:50
lifelessmorgs: thats a key thing IMO.05:50
morgslifeless: yes05:50
ddaa(at least without spending like a week figuring out svn things)05:51
lifelessmogreat05:51
jblackelmo: would you mind giving me another 40 gigs on vostok, btw? 05:51
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elmoyes; it's a mainframe and/or disk-on-demand05:51
elmoerr NOT a main...05:51
SteveAelmo: just plug in some fancy usb drive05:52
ddaauncle elmo, can I have more candy^W hard disk, plizzz?05:52
elmojblack: seriously, if you're planning to use more space, I'll order the disks, but it'll take a couple of days 05:53
jblackddaa: Heh. Thats serious though. vostok's 65% used. Its generally better to ask a bit early than a bit late. 05:53
jblackelmo: Nah. Not worth teeth gnashing. 05:54
jblackThis is a tla->baz migration, so certain things may start getting cached that weren't before, and once we can get archzoom doing libraries, that'll eat a lot of space. But I can avoid gluttonous stuff for your next "Oh, here's a big drive to toss in" 05:55
jblackSo the 20 gigs left should be fine for a bit yet, possibly a month. 05:56
jblackwith a bit longer if I'm careful about what acts how.05:56
=== jblack gnashes his teeth on ssh timeouts.
jblackI'm not timing out on other machines, just on vostok and arktowski. I'll try the ServerAliveInterval option05:57
lifelessjblack: shoud not eat more space - it caches remote archives only,a nd archive mirror shouldnt result in cached copies. if it oes, its a bug,.06:00
jblacklifeless: Yeah. If mirroring were the only thing going on, sure.06:01
lifelessjblack - what do you do with remote archives that isn't mirroring ?06:01
jblackbut, for example, I believe archzoom does things that may cause a revision to get used (and thusly cached). 06:01
lifelessbaz wont cache local archives by default. if archive archzoom has /foo/bar paths to the archive it will be fine.06:02
jblackOk. We should be fine then, at least until we turn on libraries for archzoom. 06:03
lifelessif archzoom has http:// urls then you should giver it nocache:http:// and then it wont needlessly cache those archives.06:03
lifelessexsqueeze my typing, hyper latency link06:03
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jblackIts more a matter of what archzoom is doing. Its got a symlinked r/o archives list.06:03
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jblackit probably goes through pyarch though. I haven't even dealt with archzoom to see what sort of love it needs yet. I'm just being careful with unknowns. knowing that the drive is already at 65% used, its usually a good habit to say "Just so you know... " 06:04
jblackelmo: did you down arktowski? 06:04
lifelessarchzoom is perl, wont use pyarzch06:06
jblackdurh. ;) 06:06
jblackSo it'll end up caching the -SOURCE ones, if people browse them. 06:06
jblackShouldn't be a problem to hide those though06:07
lifelesscan we not give archzoom the -SOURCE registrations ?06:07
lifelessright, gcool.06:07
elmojblack: no?06:09
elmohmm, see what you mean tho06:10
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dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  Remove canonical._ (patch-2206: stuart.bishop@canonical.com)06:15
elmojblack: it's coming back now06:16
elmoit lost one of it's drives, and the raid card clearly believes in death before degradation and took the machine down06:17
jblackThat's not very raidish... 06:17
elmoyeah well, that's why the devel box is a Dell and the production one isn't06:18
jblackReminds me of the good ole days. Once, I built a seven drive soft raid5.06:18
jblackUnfortunately, the drives were the infamouse 40 gig IBM suicide drives. Within a year I was down to 3 drives.06:19
jblackNever lost a byte on the filsystem though. degrade, backup, new raid.... on and on.06:19
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ddaaWhere is staging gone?07:03
lifelessstgin.launchpad.net perhaps ?07:08
ddaaATM that gives an interesting apache index page...07:28
jordiSteveA: pong07:35
jordicarlos: I arrived07:35
jordicarlos: give me 10 minutes to land in the house, and I can get started07:35
salgadocarlos, https://launchpad.net/errors/showEntry.html?id=1123003836.380.814976057907:39
salgadocarlos, did you remember to ask stub to create add the new KarmaActions in the production database?07:44
salgados/add//07:45
carlossalgado, I did, but seems like he forgot it or I didn't rememered it enough...07:47
carlosjordi, ok07:47
carlossalgado, thanks for noting it07:47
salgadocarlos, np07:48
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carlossalgado, it should be fixed now08:00
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kikois jamesh in the house already?08:42
jordioi kiko08:44
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kikoheya jordi 08:49
jordimy first bug against DOAP08:51
jordi:)08:51
carlosmorgs, say hello to jordi09:00
carlosjordi, say hello to morgs 09:01
jordihola morgs :)09:01
carlosjordi, morgs is on charge of the products database on launchpad (The register)09:01
jordidamn. have I met morgan before in any conference?09:01
jordiI don't remember09:01
carlosjordi, hmm he was on Australia conference09:02
jordiah, too bad09:03
kikoI'm lost in a maze of test failures, all alike09:05
carloskiko, :-D09:05
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ddaalifeless: please get robert.collins@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0--patch-139 through review and merged in rocketfuel one day09:21
ddaaWTF!10:24
ddaaThere's no longer a link to productseries from a product page!10:25
ddaa*sigh*10:25
dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  Libraraian upstream tweaks, which demonstrate the the feature is broken (?) (patch-2207: stuart.bishop@canonical.com)10:26
carlosddaa, It's inside a portlet now10:29
carloshttps://launchpad.net/products/zope10:29
ddaaduh10:29
ddaanote how that's awkyard in a page like that one https://launchpad.net/products/perlsgml10:30
ddaaAnd how very confusing it is to have a big, in your face, productseries description in the center column _without_ a link10:30
ddaaI'll file a bug when I feel less angry about it10:31
carlosddaa, the problem is that you are too used to the old way to have it10:31
jordiyeah, no links is bad10:31
jordithere's plenty of used space there to have a link somewhere in it10:31
carlosddaa, I think it's less confusing using a portlet, it's more "launchpad way"10:31
ddaacarlos: the problem is that there is a BIG "Product Series" heading with description and branches in the center column, and no link there.10:31
lifeless'launchpad way' ? wtf? 10:31
lifelessits either confusing, or not confusing.10:32
carloslifeless, launchpad uses portlets for that kind of info10:32
carlosso it's "launchpad way" :-)10:32
lifelessnot consistently10:32
carloslifeless, so it should be done10:32
ddaacarlos: stop pulling off a tomlord and listen to what we are saying10:32
lifelessoww10:32
lifelessthats harsh10:33
ddaasorry10:34
ddaathen, stop pulling a van der Hoeven10:35
lifelesscarlos admits the error of his ways10:35
ddaausually, yes10:35
carlosddaa, ;-)10:36
jordiargh fucking losers, stop the fireworks10:37
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jorditoday they celebrate it's Tuesday10:37
lifelessis it. I think its wednesday10:38
ddaathanks jordi, I needed a laugh :-D10:38
mptThree cheers for Tuesdays10:38
jordimpt: hey, I have a small update for the RosettaFAQ10:38
spivjordi: I never realised how often there were fireworks on Sydney Harbour until I lived near it.  I've no idea what most of them were for.10:38
jordiI could use a review10:38
jordispiv: "Tuesday", NO KIDDING10:38
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jordimatt zimmerman!10:55
dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [r=jamesh]  initial support for bug attachments. still some tweaks needed before the implementation fully matches the spec. (patch-2208: bjorn.tillenius@canonical.com)10:56
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salgadocarlos, I'm not sure if it was you who wrote POTemplateAddView, but it had a subtle bug (that showed up now because I fixed the person vocabs to return security proxied objects)11:16
salgadocarlos, the code was assuming that the 'owner' widget would return the 'id' of the selected owner, but in fact that widget returns the owner11:18
mdzjordi: popper!11:19
dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  Instead of checking if 'Last-Translator' is an editor, we should check the person who did the import. Added a test and updated the interface (patch-2209: carlos.perello@canonical.com)11:24
dilysMerge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: My librarian-cleanups branch, held up by baz confusion.  r=BjornT (patch-2210: andrew.bennetts@canonical.com)11:57
carlossalgado-brb, I wrote it, yes12:00
carlossalgado-brb, hmm, I don't remember why I did it that way so I cannot give you an explanation ...12:01
carlossalgado-brb, did you fixed it?12:01
lifelessddaa - I'm going to be busy for the next 2.5 weeks at least, can you merge that launchpad branch into yours, and do the reviewers request ? 12:04
lifelessddaa - I would really appreciate that.12:04
ddaaokay, I just hope it's reasonably not too insane12:05
ddaalifeless: before going away, could you write that bit of documentation about inputs and outputs of the log parser and cache generator of cscvs?12:05
mptjordi: There's a Rosetta FAQ?12:05
lifelessddaa: ack. will 12:05
carlosmpt, yes wiki.ubuntu.com/Rosetta/RosettaFAQ12:05
ddaaI know that would be a lot of work, but it's _really_ needed for anybody but you to maintain that code.12:06
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lifelessddaa: real briefly the log parser gives you al the revisions the log contains, the cache generator combines that with the knowledge from the branch and teh local catalog to update the catalog.12:09
ddaaI understand that much already.12:09
ddaalifeless: don't try to be brief, that's something that needs some real solid documentation, as it's all about evil dragon-infested dark corners.12:10
lifelessheh. I'll focus on the bit giving you grief.12:10

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