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Trunksi have no idea what im doing lol12:00
Trunksi stuck in the 98 boot disk12:00
vader1102Seveas: heheh I am getting better lol12:00
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vader1102then when it boots, go to the E drive and look in there to see if there is a way to do it12:01
ubuntuSeveas: would static be better if you didn't want the programe being install to interfear with an expermental system12:01
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sorush21hi12:01
ubuntulike it would be more self contained12:01
Trunksi also have a hdd with ubuntu installed on it but it wont load to my other comp12:01
Seveasubuntu, makes little difference12:01
DPadclearI'm getting an error with dpkg "dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `fuse' in statusoverride file" Does anyone know how to fix or where to begin?12:01
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Seveasit won't change the libraries12:02
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skalpelis there a way i can make nicotine remember it's window size and position when i close and restart it, does anyone know?12:02
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SeveasDPadclear, what are you trying to install?12:02
vader1102Trunks: don't know what to tell you there buddy12:02
Cinwhat's the equivilent to Xclients (redhat) to ubuntu?12:02
sorush21I need for something like this to happen everytime I send a file to printed... this is because my printer is crap and can't do it everytime.. this is what happens in windows, everytime I print something some command like this occures... can anyone help me automate this in Ubuntu too... here is the command.. cat sihp1000.img > /dev/usb/lp012:03
DPadclearSeveas, monopod (a checkinstall deb of the tarball)12:03
Geist|Patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/881 still there12:03
Seveascin, what does Xclients do?12:03
Geist|Patrick:(12:03
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SeveasDPadclear, hmm, I suggest simply installing into /usr/local since checkinstall may have failed you here...12:03
D1are there any ubuntu tools for gamma correction?12:04
Cinit's the config file thing that x uses when it starts12:04
topyliDPadclear: did you build this package on this system or did you get it from someone else?12:04
Cinso i can config it to use windowmaker :$] 12:04
DPadcleartopyli, I built the package.12:04
linuksosorush21: is that an image you are trying to print? cat'ing it would just dump the raw binary data to the printer, which would lead to .... crap12:04
chris_hey guys, I broke my gnome-panel (the top one), I accidentally deleted the "applications", "system tools" etc thing, and how do not know I add it again - any ideas? :\12:04
SeveasCin, ah that, you simply need to create a .desktop file for iy12:04
Seveasit*12:04
tiglionabbitmah printer doesn't work12:05
SeveasD1, there is at least one for ati cards12:05
DPadclearSeveas, I don't think checkinstall failed. I a previous program install (fuse-utils) junked up dpkg.12:05
tiglionabbitit wont print any text.  It prints images just fine, but pretends all the text was never there12:05
CinSeveas, do you have a tut or something for ubuntu of how to do this?12:05
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Cinall i can find is redhat12:05
topyliDPadclear: on the same system? then you might want to file a checkinstall bug (not in ubuntu bugzilla though)12:05
Geist|Patrickgn812:05
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Nevadochris_, right click on the panel and select 'add', then choose the 'main menu' or 'menu bar' can't remember which12:05
SeveasCin, sorry, no12:05
linuksoCin: If you install wmaker you should be able to select it from the session menu in gdm12:05
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SeveasDPadclear, then purge that program and reinstall it12:06
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Seveaslinukso, ghe, that makes it even easier :)12:06
DPadcleartopyli, no-no I was getting the same error when trying to do an apt-get upgrade.12:06
Cinlinukso, session menu?12:06
SeveasCin, yes12:06
linukso'12:06
chris_oh dear, thanks, I just saw the first one, clicked it, and didn't think there could be another one.. :)12:06
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sun_how do i watch wmv on ubuntu?12:06
Cin*windows user* please explain brief?12:06
linuksoCin: assuming you are using gdm, and not startx from console...12:06
Cinaye..12:07
DPadclearSeveas, I did remove the program. I think it left something in either dpkg or apts setup files (Hence, an unknown group named "fuse")12:07
topyliDPadclear: try purge as suggested12:07
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Cingdm the thing that automatically starts it when i boot ubuntu?12:07
SeveasDPadclear, you should purge it12:07
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sun_how do i watch wmv on ubuntu?12:07
linuksoCin: yes :)12:07
Seveasdpkg -p fuse-utils or aptitude purge fuse-utils12:07
Seveassun_: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support12:07
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linuksoCin: right underneath where you type in you login name12:07
Cinhow do i config gdm?12:07
Cinmhm12:07
Cinahh12:08
Cini'll have a see then!12:08
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DPadclearSeveas and topyli: Thanks (sudo dpkg --purge fuse-utils && sudo dpkg -i monopod_0.4-1_i386.deb).12:09
sorush21linukso, yes.. its what I've been told here http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1000 and I have no reall choice.. it works.. and it prints but the problem is that there is no other form of communication it seemes between the printer and the computer... for example when the printer has finished the job the computer does not know to remove the printer job away form the printing quee. it just sits the12:09
guillaume__does someone have an ipod 20 Gb  ?12:09
topyliDPadclear: works? good12:09
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guillaume__the ipod doesnt appear in /dev ....12:09
mebaran151_do you guys thing 15 GB is enough for root12:09
Seveasmebaran151_, it is12:10
dArtagnandepends on what you want to do with it, but generally it is12:10
linuksosorush21: sorry, don't think I can help you...12:10
mebaran151_I am going to run a couple servers off it12:10
Echelon-Hwhy is there no php5 for ubuntu?12:10
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mebaran151_Echelon-H: because php is crap ;p12:10
Echelon-Hmebaran151_, i hope you're not being serious.12:10
mebaran151_jk12:10
mebaran151_Echelon-H: jk, though I dont like it myself12:11
topylimebaran151_: my _big_ installation is about 3.9G12:11
Echelon-Hmebaran151_, whatever.12:11
topylimebaran151_: the system12:11
Echelon-Hanyways, you got a clue?12:11
SeveasEchelon-H, there is12:11
mebaran151_Echelon-H: I just like to do things OOP style12:11
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mebaran151_and php makes that difficult12:11
Seveasmebaran151_, php5 has much better OOP :)12:11
mebaran151_some of the syntax is inelegant12:11
Echelon-Hmebaran151_, php5 = oop12:11
mebaran151_Seveas: oh really?12:11
saintFrancewats a good media player that plays everything for ubuntu??12:11
SeveasEchelon-H, breezy has php512:11
Nomad_1Does anyone here have any experience with WINE and 3dsmax5, 6, or 712:12
mebaran151_I might look into it then12:12
linuksosaintFrance: totem12:12
Cinheyy12:12
Echelon-HSeveas, arrg... I can't wait till ovtober.12:12
Cinsored!!12:12
Echelon-H*october.12:12
Seveasfor hoary: look at people.debian.org/~dexter12:12
SeveasEchelon-H, ^---12:12
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Cin:p12:12
mebaran151_Nomad_1: I think Maya and 3dsMax make a Linux native version12:12
linuksosaintFrance: just make shure you get gstreamer-ffmpeg from universe or multiverse12:12
topylimebaran151_: a server should fit in well under 2G. the data goes on other partitions12:12
Echelon-HSeveas, k12:12
Cinmaya definatley have a linux version12:12
mebaran151_topyli: well I dont usually split var off12:12
Nomad_1mebran151: But I don't have the money to buy another copy of it.12:12
mebaran151_though I really should12:12
prodigyhow do I install Gartoon for Ubuntu?12:12
mebaran151_Nomad_1: I remember 3dsMax being willing to trade12:13
mebaran151_this was awhile back12:13
topylimebaran151_: however you best like it :)12:13
linuksoCin: do you really enjoy the wmaker interface?12:13
renatoheHi. I am new to ubuntu. I must be blind because I cannot find in the system an application for reading and recording CD/DVDs. I have a superdrive on a power-pc platform.12:13
mebaran151_topyli: what would be really nice12:13
mebaran151_would be if I could use LVM12:13
Nevadoprodigy, sudo apt-get install gnome-icon-theme-gartoon12:13
Echelon-HSeveas, there are all sorts of versions. anyways, is it worth installing it anyway? I mean, don't i need to reconfigure manually some stuff?12:13
prodigythanks12:13
Cinaye, i prefer it to gnome style12:13
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mebaran151_if you symlink from var/www to a different partition12:14
Madpilotrenatohe: Nautilus - the default file manager - will burn most things12:14
mebaran151_can you do that12:14
topylimebaran151_: yes12:14
mebaran151_I would think a chroot might get in the way12:14
renatoheThanks, Madpilot12:14
linuksoCin: half you screen estate wasted on gigant icons, and uber-cheezy window borders...12:14
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Madpilotrenatohe: and anything Nautilus can't burn, you can install Gnomebaker or K3B for12:14
linuksoCin: Are you using any of the gnustep apps to?12:14
mebaran151_like I have a big partition for assorted media I could put a www folder too12:14
mebaran151_to12:14
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mebaran151_I could do a bind mount too!12:15
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equexlol ATI's site crashes my firefox12:15
Cinlol, my borders look small, i like the icons displaying cpu speed etc, looks orderly12:15
mebaran151_is LVM supposed to constantly crash during install12:15
Nomad_1mebran151: The windows version of 3dsmax is my backup incase it doesn't work out trying to move my modeling over to Linux. I wouldn't feel comfortable giving it up.12:15
jmannscan someone please help me recover my gnome desktop?12:15
mebaran151_Nomad_1: I think they go either way12:15
mebaran151_if you pay postage12:15
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mebaran151_like you can send your Linux disk in for a Windows disk12:16
mebaran151_or a Windows disk in for a Linux disk12:16
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ubuntuSeveas: ah i see why the give you the static deb12:16
mebaran151_kind of like what MakeMusic did for PC and Mac12:16
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guney_hi there12:16
guney_i am newbie ubuntu12:16
Seveasguney_, welcome aboard!12:16
ubuntuSeveas:  so you don't have any dependency problem12:16
mebaran151_Nomad_1: huh?12:16
Nomad_1That solution seems worse than trying to run 3dsmax under a windows emulator.12:16
guney_using hoary 5.0412:16
topyliguney_: welcome, o freedom lover!12:16
mebaran151_Nomad_1: a windows emulator is going to lose you performance12:17
ubuntuSeveas: all good  sudo apt-get install -f ;)12:17
Cinlol12:17
ubuntu:D12:17
guney_i have a problem12:17
mebaran151_a tiny bit12:17
linuksoCin: I have tried windowmaker several times, but I never get used to is... especially the gnustep apps. Gnustep might be this great technology, but the gui just look dreadful...12:17
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guney_i couldnt install mono12:17
linuksoguney_: sudo aptitude install mono12:18
mebaran151_linukso: I think the gui looks bad because all teh NextStep developers went to work on the Aqua GUI12:18
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Nomad_1mebaran151: Even with an Athlon64 3200+, 2gigs DDR, and Radeon 9600XT 256mb? setup?12:18
topylilinukso: it does doesn't it. :-) it's very usable though12:18
skalpelcan someone help me with this error message?12:18
skalpelE: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.512:18
mjrGnustep is nice mostly because it makes porting from MacOS X / Cocoa easier12:18
mebaran151_Nomad_1: it wont be unbearable12:18
Cini don't tend to do much flicking through applications12:18
Thewarmachineout of curiosity what is a really good linux virus scanner12:18
guney_but where from?12:18
JemtWhat is the difference between apt-get and aptitude ?12:18
topyliThewarmachine: what is a really good linux virus?12:18
mebaran151_just emulating a complex program like that might be hard12:18
linuksomjr: So I have heard, but have you ever seen anything coming that way?12:19
SeveasJemt, apt-get is the classic way, aptitude is better12:19
Thewarmachinetopyli lol12:19
mebaran151_topyli: why do you want to know that .....12:19
dArtagnanskalpel, enabled the universe and multiverse packages?12:19
Nomad_1mebaran151: I think trying something like WINE might be a good idea. If only as a demo to see if the emulation idea is doable.12:19
topylimebaran151_: just rhetorical12:19
Seveasguney_, you need to enable backports to egt mono12:19
mebaran151_Nomad_1: decent idea12:19
Seveas!backports12:19
ubotusomebody said backports was .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted12:19
mebaran151_it might just be a little bit of work12:19
jowiJemt, aptitude and synaptics are front-ends for apt12:19
skalpeldartagnan: yes i believe so. where is the conf file again? i will doublecheck12:19
JemtSeveas: Better in what way ?12:19
mjrlinukso, no :)12:19
saintFrancewhere do i get codecs and what not for the totem media player12:19
saintFrance?12:19
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SeveasJemt, aptitude is better when it comes to advanced uses12:19
dArtagnanskalpel, deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted12:20
mebaran151_!Restricted12:20
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:20
dArtagnanadd that one12:20
guney_ok i'll try12:20
JemtSeveas: Why ?12:20
linuksomjr: my point exactly :)12:20
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saintFrance!codec12:20
ubotusaintFrance: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:20
saintFrance!codecs12:20
Thewarmachineso, how about the virus scanner.... anyone recommend a good one12:20
ubotuI heard codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:20
SeveasJemt, read the manpages for apt-get and aptitude to discover the differences :)12:20
mebaran151_!!12:20
ubotuhmm... ! is what u add before a sentence to talk to me12:20
skalpeldartagnan: can you tell me where the conf file is? i forget12:20
linuksomjr: maybe iTunes could be ported to objC and gnustep :D12:20
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JemtSeveas: If it's just a front-end to apt-get, apt-get would be the advanced users choice I guess12:20
Nevado!hello12:20
ubotuNevado: I don't know12:20
topyliThewarmachine: i used to run f-secure's scanner but it's very much non-free12:20
mebaran151_doesnt aptitude have a font end12:20
SeveasJemt, apt-get and aptitude are both frontends for libapt12:21
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mebaran151_any of you have LVM working at the moment12:21
linuksoThewarmachine: clamav, if you need one12:21
JemtSeveas: Ok, ic.12:21
Nevadomebaran151_, synaptic12:21
Seveasaptitude has a nice ncurses interface too :)12:21
topyliThewarmachine: then i realized i only have one windows client and decided to install the scanner on that :-)12:21
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Nomad_1Time to go. Thanks for your time mebaran15112:21
mebaran151_clamav is pretty good; they keep up to date12:21
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mebaran151_anyone here LVM exerpts?12:22
Cini'm curious as to how much ram usage difference there is between WindowMaker and KDE/Gnome12:22
linuksoThewarmachine: If your machine is just a standalone pc, and not i.ex. a mailserver for windows machines, you really don't need one.12:22
mebaran151_eperts12:22
mebaran151_experts12:22
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JemtAm I the only one having problems with XMMS? It freezes when I try to play a mp3 file12:22
Nevadodoes clamav automatically scan files as you open them?12:22
SeveasJemt: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound12:22
mebaran151_Jemt: mie seg faults12:22
topylimebaran151_: sure aptitude has a gui. just run it without arguments and you get the nice curses ui12:22
vagamentehow can i watch .mov file?12:22
SeveasNevado, thank god no12:22
mebaran151_topyli: yeah12:22
Cinwhat's the command for the task viewer12:22
linuksoCin: tons, but once you load your first real app, the advantage will be gone :)12:22
Seveas!quicktime12:22
ubotusomebody said quicktime was read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about quicktime support12:22
Cinin shell12:22
mebaran151_I never knew you could run it with arguments12:22
JemtSeveas: Oh, okay. Thanks alot :)12:22
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Jemtmebaran151_: Thanks too12:22
linuksoCin: top12:23
SeveasCin, top12:23
Seveasvagamente, read what ubotu said12:23
mebaran151_Seveas: you can configure it to scan your email12:23
Cinahh thanks12:23
MartenHI'm trying to use xawtv and gqcam ot get my cam working but it wont. They keep telling me /dev/video doesn't exist...12:23
mebaran151_I think ClamAV has a plugin for that12:23
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mebaran151_MartenH: do you have the modules loaded12:23
MartenHmebaran151_, i belive so. I find running ov511 which I belive is for my cam12:23
mebaran151_for your particular camera12:23
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mebaran151_ov51112:24
Cinta12:24
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topyliamavis will use most any scanner as a plugin12:24
arbirhello all12:24
linuksoello!12:24
Nevadoin firefox does anyone know how to do an "i'm feeling lucky"  search in the quicksearch box thingy?12:24
mebaran151_!lvm12:24
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, mebaran151_12:24
Cini am thinkings my switch from windows to linux was a gudden!12:24
mebaran151_!LVM12:24
ubotuI haven't a clue, mebaran151_12:24
mebaran151_!logical12:24
ubotumebaran151_: Are you smoking crack?12:24
mebaran151_damnit, the bot doesnt know12:24
MartenHI'm not following you mebaran151_ ?12:24
Seveasmebaran151_, stop playing with it...12:24
Seveasuse private messages12:25
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mebaran151_oh whoops, sorry12:25
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guney_to install mono, which backport should i add list?12:25
Seveas!backports12:25
ubotu[backports]  .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted12:25
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mebaran151_do you know guys know where I could find a good guide as to how to set up LVM12:26
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Mezgrr @ me highlighting backports12:26
Seveashehe12:26
JaZy84hey guys i have 4.10 and i want to upgrade to 5.0412:26
linuksomebaran151_: gentoo-wiki.com12:26
JaZy84can i just add the repos?12:26
SeveasJaZy84: One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade12:27
mebaran151_linukso: yeah12:27
mebaran151_I use them alot12:27
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SeveasJaZy84, use that command :)12:27
arbirguney_: i am also trying to intall mono12:27
mebaran151_the Ubuntu Wiki is not so hardcore as the Gentoo one12:27
mebaran151_it is fabulous12:27
JaZy84ty12:27
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SeveasUbuntu is not so hardcore as Gentoo12:27
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Seveas:)12:27
arbirwhere is the ServerName directive on apache.. i am not able to figure it out. can anybody help me. here is my log --> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/88212:27
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Cinif top's the console version, what's the command to execute GUI version...?12:28
mebaran151_i tried Gentoo12:28
yonilfull screen mode doesnt work with any game (it just stays the same size, with a black bg to the entire screen). anyone knows why ?12:28
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andrilhello all12:28
mebaran151_but all the seconds I saved in optimized programs loading12:28
mebaran151_was lost in compiling everything12:28
linuksoUbuntu leaves more time for doing other things that compiling and configuring...12:28
mebaran151_learned alot though12:28
andrildoes anyone know how to remove Logos from wallpapers?12:28
Seveasarbir, that is not an error, you can ignore it12:28
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dArtagnanarbir, you have to set ServerName ;)12:28
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Snufjmmm i could better put an ignore on join and leave notices i guess..12:29
mattti love gentoo, but i do agree that it's a very time-consuming distro.12:29
dArtagnanandril, the gimp does a wonderfull job :)12:29
SeveasdArtagnan, you don't have to :)12:29
mebaran151_mattt: yeah12:29
dArtagnanwell, it asks for the ServerName now12:29
JaZy84hey Seveas12:29
mebaran151_well done, and their community is decent at helping you with really obscure problems12:29
SeveasSnufj, yeah, that is a good plan in here :)12:29
Snufjyes :)12:29
JaZy84i get sed -e expression #1 char 11: unterminated 's command12:29
arbirdArtagnan: where do i set ServerName.. this apache conf in Ubutnu is diff from the old ones i did12:29
MartenHI think I might need to upgrade my ov511 drivers to ov51x. I have found these but they need to be "built" and the ov511 drivers removed. Can anyone help me with these procedures?12:29
SeveasJaZy84, ouch12:29
Seveaslemme check12:30
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JaZy84sudo sed -e 'swartyhoary' -i etcaptsources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade12:30
andrildArtagan, kinda a noob to Gimp but I have been working with some images - can you help?12:30
JaZy84what i used12:30
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JaZy84ah for got '/'12:30
SeveasJaZy84, you missed some / characters12:30
linuksogentoo is great if you run it on a 24/7 machine stuck in a dark room somewhere, but running at 99% all day long makes lots of noise and heat in the living room :)12:30
nJesscrispynix-v6, fancy meeting you here12:30
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crispynix-v6nJess: hey :)12:30
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Seveassudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade12:30
arbirSeveas: i nkow its not an error.. but i want to set a name :-)12:30
JaZy84yeah12:31
JaZy84sorry about that :)(12:31
Seveasarbir, you can set it in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf12:31
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JaZy84trhanks for the help12:31
Dr_FateThunderbird just keeps loading and loading and loading, and hitting the stop button does nothing.12:31
arbirlet me check Seveas12:31
Strifedoes anyone else have problems switching network interfaces without rebooting?12:31
Seveasadd the line: ServerName some.host.name.that.is.valid12:31
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mebaran151_what is the difference between EVMS and LVM12:31
linuksoDr_Fate: mutt doesnt...12:31
kaffeendcan someone tell me how to burn the live CD for Ubuntu AMD 64 please?12:31
arbiri am not able to find that tag in there Seveas12:31
skalpelcan someone tell me what the following error means when i have already downloaded the file and am in the dir where it is stored?12:31
skalpelFile "LimewireLinux.rpm" not found.12:31
by_ruffohello people!12:31
Seveasarbir, simply add the line at the end12:32
kaffeendI copied the .ISO straight to the disc12:32
Seveaskaffeend, bad idea12:32
Strifeyou need to "write image"12:32
Dr_Fatelinukso, is that some lame reccomendation for mutt?12:32
Strifeor "burn image"12:32
arbiraaah! i see .. thanks Seveas .. thats all i wanted to know.... :-)12:32
Seveasselect the 'burn image' option in your cd burning program12:32
Strifeit really depends on what program you're using, kaffeend12:32
kaffeendsounds like I need nero12:32
by_ruffohow i can install ident12:32
Dr_Fateyeah I'm using a gui emailer and I'll switch to mutt right away12:32
skalpeldoes wine work well enough to play games?12:32
by_ruffoor oident  ??12:32
Seveasby_ruffo, sudo aptitude install pidentd12:32
kaffeendor alcohol12:32
arbirSeveas: before this, when i was on redhat... this tag was already defined, and i just had to uncomment and write my own name12:32
linuksoDr_Fate: a very bad joke. Thunderbird does that if it cant find the mailserver12:32
Dr_Fategive me a break12:32
arbirthanks Seveas12:32
Seveasarbir, Ubuntu defines it in /etc/apache2/sites-available12:33
andrildArtagnan, can you help? i am kinda noob to Gimp12:33
Seveasand .../sites-enabled12:33
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Dr_Fatelinukso, this POS found the mailservers alright, as it download mail from them12:33
MartenHCan someone help me build and replace some drivers? I'm a bit too new to this to figure out how to do it12:33
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Strifeso if no one else has trouble switching network intefaces without rebooting... is there a way at least where I can have two network interfaces configured but only have ONE try to connect at boot?12:33
kaffeendstrife I will use whatever program I need to get this thing installed12:33
arbirso should i make an entry in apache2.conf or sites-available ?12:33
mebaran151_MartenH: you are going to have to build yourself a kernel12:34
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kaffeendI don't even know what a kernel is12:34
arbirSeveas: what is the official Ubuntu way of installing Mono ?12:34
linuksoDr_Fate: hmm, remembet something like that when I was trying to get imaps working on my mailserver.12:34
Seveasarbir the nicest is in sites-available/default12:35
MartenHmebaran151_, ok, I'm open to learn :)12:35
Seveasjust below the ServerAdmin line12:35
mebaran151_MartenH12:35
mebaran151_before you do it12:35
kaffeendso is the image on the disc meant to be a plain ISO?12:35
mebaran151_are you sure you need to12:35
JemtHow can I see which codecs a movie requires ?12:35
mebaran151_my guess is udev is not properly configured12:35
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arbirSeveas: which would be inside the Virtual host * tag12:35
Seveasarbir, correct12:35
mebaran151_but I dont know how to configure udev, as it is supposed to just work12:36
skalpelcan someone tell me how to unpack rar file in ubuntu linux?12:36
mebaran151_it might have to symlink your usb cam to a /dev/videa12:36
Seveasand about mono: the official way is to not install it yet or use hoary-backports12:36
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linuksoskalpel: get unrar-nonfree12:36
MartenHmebaran151_, It works like a charm with another cam right away but not with this one.12:36
arbirright.. i got it.. i added at the end , but now.. let me shift it below  ServerAdmin line12:36
mebaran151_yeah12:36
mebaran151_sounds very udevy12:36
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Strifespeaking of mono... Beagle refuses to work for me :(12:36
MartenHmebaran151_, I found on the net that I might need to replace my ov511 drivers with ov51x to make it work12:36
darxethhow does ubuntu differ than debian?12:36
StrifeI thought apt was supposed to prevent dependencies NOT getting installed, but apparently not12:37
arbirwell.. Seveas whats wrong with mono ?12:37
Seveasdarxeth: Ubuntu and debian have different goals, a different release schedule and different, but overlapping communities. See also http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/relationship12:37
Strifedarxeth: ubuntu is based on debian12:37
depravecan playing with tripewire for learning purposes citicaly incapacitate my machine in any way?12:37
Seveasarbir, nothing, I;m just answering your question :)12:37
depravecriticaly12:37
skalpellinukso: is that listed in synaptic?12:37
darxethi c12:37
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arbiri know.. Seveas  i was just wondering.. becuase, i need to install Mono and host it on production12:38
mebaran151_what is tripewire?12:38
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skalpellinukso: what is the difference between the free and nonfree version?12:38
linuksoskalpel: yes, if you have added the multiverse reps. There is a free version too, but I always have touble with it, so I bother...12:38
andrilany Gimp users out there?12:38
arbirSeveas: and now i am i ndoubt if Ubuntu is the right choice or shall i go back to Fedor12:38
mebaran151_MartenH: oh12:38
Seveasskalpel, the nonfree can handle rar3.0 archives12:38
mebaran151_that isnt so bad12:38
mebaran151_dll the kernel source12:38
Seveasarbir, ubuntu is the right choice12:38
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andrilI am trying to remove text and logos from wallpapers using Gimp12:38
skalpelseveas: do i have to pay for it or something?12:38
mebaran151_for the ubuntu package12:38
Seveasand for breezy ubuntu will be in main12:38
Seveasskalpel, no12:39
linuksoskalpel: no no,12:39
skalpeli prefer freeware12:39
skalpelalright.12:39
skalpel=)12:39
Seveasnonfree means: no source code available12:39
skalpelah, ok12:39
mebaran151_go to /usr/src/ and untar it there12:39
skalpelthat is fine for me.12:39
arbirok Seveas so let me add the backports and install mono12:39
Seveasand for breezy mono will be in main12:39
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kaffeendso I have d/lodaed the live Ubuntu for AMD 64, I browse the cd contents and there's an .ISO file there, but when I try to boot from the cd it ignores it and boots to windows xp login like normal. I was told that it shouldn't show a .ISO but a bunch of different files and fiolders - I'm lost, and soooo close to deleting this Ubuntu thing12:39
guney_arbir:how is it going?12:39
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linuksoskalpel: it refers to freedom, not money...12:39
kaffeendLinux is supposed to save me from MS12:39
arbirguney_: great.. how about you ?12:39
abarbacciakaffeend, you need to burn the iso as an image not as a file12:39
kaffeendwindows works12:39
desrtkaffeend; i think you burned the ISO file to the CD12:39
desrtkaffeend; instead of burning the ISO file -as- the cd12:39
Seveaskaffeend, if you use nero: select 'burn image'12:39
guney_bad12:39
abarbacciakaffeend, go into your CD burner and OPEN the iso file12:39
arbirkaffeend: no ,, linux is supposed to be freedom of choice12:40
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guney_ubuntu downs easiliy :(12:40
kaffeendarabaccia I did and it opens in winRAR12:40
Seveaskaffeend, wich cd burnong program do you use?12:40
linuksokaffeend: Linux can't save you, you have to save your self...12:40
abarbacciakaffeend,what program are you using to burn CDs12:40
JemtCan it really be true, that I have found a media file that Totem can play (I really don't like that player) that MPlayer can't play ?12:40
SeveasJemt, omg....12:41
Seveassend it to me :)12:41
BollocksMacenzieWhat's the best way of creating firewall rules in ubuntu...12:41
kaffeendlinukso - I'm sure you understood my point12:41
mebaran151_Jemt: that is rather interesting12:41
SeveasBollocksMacenzie, firestarter, firehol, shorewall...12:41
Madpilot!iso12:41
ubotuNo idea, Madpilot12:41
mebaran151_you sure it isnt like a mikmod file or something12:41
linuksokaffeend: its late at night, and jedi wisdom just came to me :)12:41
JemtSeveas & mebaran151_: hehe :)12:41
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kaffeendSeveas I use the standard Windows burning tool12:41
Seveaskaffeend, hmm, that one cannot burn it properly afaik12:42
JemtCould it be duo to plugins or similar that needs to be configured ? I havn't touched the default settings12:42
zanyb**hey12:42
Madpilotkaffeend: see this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto12:42
zanyhey12:42
Seveaskaffeend, nero can, the 30day trial will suffice12:42
kaffeendlinukso :P I want to have a stable - expandable OS12:42
arbirSeveas: how do i know my apt is fetching from the backports?12:42
kaffeendI have nero on disc12:42
kaffeendso do I have to download it agaiN?12:42
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linuksoDoes anyone here know of a tool to convert avi/divx etc to theora?12:42
Seveaskaffeend, the page Madpilot sent you also gives good information12:42
Seveasyou do not need to download it again12:43
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kaffeendsomeone sent me something?>12:43
kaffeendscrolling...12:43
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arbirSeveas: do you think my apt is using the backports ? --> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/88312:43
robertjbtw, thew new pentium-m's are awesome12:43
robertjI've got a newer Celeron 1.4 that blows away my old 1.612:43
MartenHhow do I launch the archive manager with su rights?12:43
mjrlinukso, ffmpeg2theora, google for it12:43
linuksomjr: ah, thanks....12:43
Seveasarbir, no12:44
skalpelcan someone tell me how to change my widow switching behavior from linux to windows?12:44
Seveasbut the non-backports mono is quite old12:44
kaffeendpeople, I'm very sorry if anyone is talking to me and I'm not replying - I've been up for hours looking at text12:44
skalpelnevermind, i found it12:44
skalpel=)12:44
arbirhow do i get it from the latest backports12:44
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Seveasadd the backports line to your sources.list12:44
topyliMartenH: from a terminal, do 'sudo file-roller' or from the apps menu, choose system -> run as diff user12:44
Seveas!backports12:44
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted12:44
Jemtrobertj: I have just bought a brand new IBM X31 laptop with Pentium M 1.6 Ghz. And I must agree ;)12:44
Madpilotkaffeend: been there, one that. here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto12:45
Seveaskaffeend, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto12:45
MikeWWill horay sport gnome 1.12?12:45
kaffeendthanks Seveas12:45
SeveasMikeW, 2.12 you mean :)12:45
Seveasand: yes12:45
mjralso, he means breezy12:45
arbirsevenseas i have added the backports into my sources.list file12:45
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mebaran151_Seveas Gnome 1 was fun!12:45
Seveasargh, mjr :)12:45
Seveasright12:45
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arbirnow.. how can i make sure that mono would be fetched only from the backports?12:45
Seveasarbir, do apt-get update before apt-get install mono12:45
mebaran151_out of curiousity12:45
topylimebaran151_: i ran, didn't walk, to enlightenment at the time :)12:45
arbiraah.. yeah. i did not do that12:46
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mebaran151_is the Gnome major number dirrectly correalated to the version of GTK12:46
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Seveasmebaran151_, no12:46
crimsunmebaran151_: no12:46
mebaran151_so when GTK 3 is started we get Gnome 3.012:46
mebaran151_ah12:46
mebaran151_ok12:46
catolhIs there any way to make the window borders smaller? and text in general?12:46
kaffeendI went into wiki and read a heap of stuff but didn't see anything about how to burn the image - why isn't that on the4 same page AS the image?12:46
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Seveaskaffeend, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto <-- bottom of that page12:46
flodinehello12:47
mjrnot strongly, but it's reasonable to expect that gnome changes major versions at the latest when/if gtk does :)12:47
kaffeendall I saw was - simply click this and download the image12:47
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don-ois X still broken in breezy?12:47
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MikeWSeveas: WOOHOO! I heard that gnome 2.12 is less of a slow dog then the .8 or something, because they cleaned up some horrible stupid coding mistakes. Extra performance I hope :D12:47
Seveaskaffeend, mind if I send you a privare message?12:47
topylicatolh: window borders depend on which theme you are using. the font is also configurable12:47
Seveasdon-o, yes, see /topic12:47
mebaran151_don-o: just a tad....12:47
Madpilotkaffeend: there should be more info on the download page - but that page and the wiki are seperate right now...12:47
topylicatolh: it's all in the system -> preferences menu12:47
kaffeendI'm cranky and very very tired from all this - I really hope it's worth it12:48
don-oSeveas: thx. the topic scrolls by before i can read it :)12:48
mebaran151_Seveas: the fix on my machine was simple though12:48
mebaran151_I just changed a symlink like the bug report said12:48
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mebaran151_seemed too simple thouhg12:48
Seveaskaffeend, maybe you should simply go to sleep and continue tomorrow :)12:48
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robertjhas there been any talk of dumping the Quake color scheme for gnome default yet ;)12:50
topylihehe12:50
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zanyi have configured dhcpd12:50
amonkeyis there anyway to play music to an airport express from linux?12:50
phixionlo all, can anyone help me? I just installed 'pidentd', how can i start it?12:50
kaffeendSeveas by tomorrow I won't have a system at all - it's corrupted beyond belief... missing core windows plugins and apps like the Task Manager12:50
zanyhow do i start it automatically at boot please ??12:50
crimsunphixion: it should be started already.12:50
kaffeendI can barely use windows at all now12:50
topyliphixion: probably it starts as you install12:50
kaffeendhacked to pieces12:51
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phixionhmm doesn't seem to have in my ps x list12:51
ma3xguys, when i install kubuntu is there mailserver installed by default?12:51
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Seveaskaffeend, then read that page more carefully12:51
karimwhat means "scuffle" ?12:51
Seveasat the bottom it gives complete instructions for windows12:51
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amonkeymy friend has ubuntu installed and he restarted it and all that shows is some linkign white ont eh lower left hand of hte screen.12:52
crimsunma3x: postfix.12:52
topyliphixion: oh well, try /etc/init.d/pidentd start12:52
kaffeendit won't even open and I can't copy and paste12:52
ma3xcrimsun: and why is 'kmail' not installed in the menu (internet)?12:52
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crimsunma3x: for Ubuntu or Kubuntu?12:52
ma3xKubuntu12:52
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crimsunma3x: because the .desktop file is in the wrong place, more than likely.12:53
wastreli forgot the password for my ubuntu install on my other computer-  what should i do? :] 12:53
ma3xcrimsun: but i just installed it, how can it be in the wrong place?12:53
davixerm12:53
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phixiontopyli, im in /etc/init.d/ there is no "pidentd" in there12:53
davixgnome is getting dull12:53
crimsunma3x: packaging error. It's not your fault.12:53
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davixshould I move to kubuntu12:54
davixor is there a way to make things more intresting?12:54
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DeterministDavey, how is gnome getting dull?12:54
ma3xcrimsun: how do i fix it?12:54
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topyliphixion: it's not necessarily called pidentd there. look around, there may be something like identd12:54
ray_anybody know how to make a backup of a dvd12:54
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davixDeterminist, it feels as if things are crummy and not quite fully developed, square design, and no out of the box templates.12:54
davixnot that I know of anyway.12:54
crimsunma3x: you'd have to recompile the package.12:54
arbirSeveas: the mono in the backports is also quite old... something like 1.0.512:55
phixiontopyli, if i dloaded it from synaptic, it should have install right?12:55
arbirwhile the latest one is way beyond 1.112:55
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Deterministdavix, well, given enough time it should improve dramatically as it had in the past.12:55
topyliphixion: well, if synaptic says it installed it, it probably did :-)12:55
LinuxJonesma3x, you can install kmail12:55
Mezarbir: we're working on updating mono for official backports12:55
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davixI gave it more than a year till now.12:56
ma3xLinuxJones: it's already installed but how can i reinstall it?12:56
phixiontopyli, if i reboot, u think itll start automatically?12:56
Deterministdavix, as for eyecandy, you could probably make it look alot better if you combine existing templates with some other elements, i've seen some pretty good outcomes12:56
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topyliphixion: of course, identd might be a service run by inetd and thus have no init script at all12:56
t3rroris there a decent newsgroup binary downloader for linux?12:56
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arbirMez.. thanks for that info. any ideas when would the latest be up and out there ?12:56
f_newtonpan12:56
davixerm, Determinist where did you see, perhaps I can get ideas.12:56
phixiontopyli, is there any other way i can find out if its running or not?12:56
t3rrorone that supports nzb files12:56
LinuxJonesma3x, right click the package in synaptic and do reinstall12:56
Mezarbir: we're currently testing and stuff, I've asked elmo to put the current mono version from breezy into backports12:57
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douglasEverytime my box starts up it synchronizes my time with ubuntu, but I think I don't have the right time zone selected, how do I select the right one so at startup I get the appropriate time?12:57
topyliphixion: "ps aux | grep ident" should definitely show it12:57
crimsundouglas: tzconfig12:57
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phixioncan i paste what it says to you topyli ?12:57
depraveanyoneh ere use tripwire?12:57
f_newtonare the cli commands debian specific or ubuntu specific?12:58
arbirso Mez.. should i go ahead and install the old version for now.. or shall i wait till the new version is in backports. bandwidth and downloading is an issue here.12:58
topyliphixion: that command i gave you? that shouldn't be much, go ahead12:58
Mezarbir: wait12:58
cute_bettongok what the heck my sound crapped out12:58
cute_bettongi booted and it broke >.<12:58
cute_bettonghow to fix?12:58
arbirsure Mez..... thanks for that. you saved me  tons of downloading time :-)12:58
jdkycdochi everyone, i want to install kde in a friend's computer running ubuntu, he have dial-up connection and so I was wondering if I could install kde from kubuntu install CD, do you know?12:58
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topyliphixion: yeah, that's just the command you were running when you checked. you have no identd running12:59
phixionoh12:59
phixionok, shall i reboot12:59
Deterministdavix, try fedoraforums.org , ubuntuforums.org , look at screenshots and then try and emulate what you think is pretty12:59
j0orge[LieRa] orale voLa de vErgas :!12:59
j0orge[LieRa] :P!12:59
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topyliphixion: it's a little desperate12:59
davixtnx Determinist.12:59
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ma3xLinuxJones: when i reinstall kmail, it asks me for the cd, and i insert the cd and it doesn't show in the menu01:00
kyncanijdkycdoc: if one of you has a usb disk, i would consider making a local ubuntu mirror01:00
LinuxJonesma3x, ok first thing to do is comment out the cd reference in the file /etc/apt/sources.lst01:01
topyliphixion: the thing is, i'm only talking from my regular knowledge about services. i never actually run identd myself01:01
jdkycdockyncani, would you explain me in more detail how would that be?01:01
Deterministdavix np mate.01:01
phixionok thanks for the help topyli, ill try a reboot see if it starts :/01:01
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hou5tonI have two harddrives in my laptop, Windows is on one, Ubuntu on the other ... from Ubuntu, how can I tell which "brand" is the hd that it is on?01:03
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mrproperI'm noticing that NFS is very chatty on the network.  Is there anyway to make it quieter?01:03
LinuxJonesma3x, you might have to manually add the menu entry, best to ask in #kubuntu to be sure.01:03
ma3xLinuxJones: now i reinstalled it from the internet, but kmail still doesn't show in menu01:03
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LinuxJonesma3x, sometimes you have to wait a few minutes for it to appear01:03
kyncanijdkycdoc: there's a package called debmirror to do mirror, although last time i tried to use it (some 3 months ago), it would ultimately not work. I've made a archive.ubuntu.com mirror using rsync. There's some doc for you on the net.01:03
ma3xLinuxJones: when i add it under menu, what do i type in the command field, only 'kmail' ?01:03
LinuxJonesma3x, have you done an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade on your system yet since you installed ?01:04
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LinuxJonesma3x, yes that outta do it01:04
kyncanijdkycdoc: google around for debian ubuntu mirror rsync debmirror (some of these terms)01:04
confliktsomeone can gimme a hand with screen resolution01:04
ma3xLinuxJones: apt-get upgrade not yet, it's 120 M01:04
conflikt???01:04
LinuxJonesma3x, best to get that done if your can01:05
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LinuxJonesma3x, it may already be fixed in the upgrade01:05
jdkycdockyncani, thank you for the info, ill think about it01:05
arbirMez.. i also see this site http://debian.meebey.net which says it has latet packages for the mono.. is this official debian ?01:05
kyncanijdkycdoc: beware that a ubuntu mirror takes some space (somewhere around 20 G)01:05
ma3xLinuxJones: ok, I thank you very much for the assistance!01:05
confliktanyone know why screen resolution is at 640 ?01:05
LinuxJonesma3x, Good Luck01:05
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ma3xLinuxJones: thank you!01:06
Mezarbir: no01:06
LinuxJonesconflikt, Ubuntu didn't detect your monitor correctly01:06
jdkycdockyncani, so you mean that I would need a usb hard disk?01:06
confliktok so how do i do it manually ?01:06
kyncanijdkycdoc: yes01:06
amonkeyanyone know what mcs is?01:07
kyncanijdkycdoc: with lots of space free01:07
LinuxJonesconflikt, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FixVideoResolutionHowto01:07
hou5tonI have two harddrives in my laptop, Windows is on one, Ubuntu on the other ... from Ubuntu, how can I tell which "brand" is the hd that it is on?01:07
mattthou5ton, dmesg | grep ide01:08
Seveashou5ton, lspci01:08
mjrhou5ton, /proc/ide/hd?/model01:08
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mattthou5ton, rather, grep for hd (provided ide)01:08
Mez!mp301:08
ubotuhmm... mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support01:08
catolhIs it possible to get the winamp "presets" loaded into xmms?01:09
matttmrj:  that's nice mind.  :)01:09
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skalpelwhat plugin do i need to use to play wmv files in totem, san someone tell me?01:10
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mjrskalpel, for old wmvs, gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg may do; for newer ones, there aren't linux codecs. You may be able to make do with w32codecs and totem-xine, if you're running on x86.01:11
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JemtIs it possible to make a script that automatically kills Wine after ie 3 minutes? I want to make sure that my PC dosn't lock up when i try to run Atomic Bomberman01:11
jdkycdockyncani, well that doesnt seem a very good option, thanks anyway, any other idea?01:11
Nomad_1Is there a terminal command to list what compiler is configured for the system?01:11
mjrNomad_1, gcc --version01:12
Nomad_1mjr: Thanks mate.01:12
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hou5tonmattt, got it ... thanks guys01:13
arbirMez.. is there a place where i can constantly check when the uploads have been done, instead of bothering you :-) ?01:14
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skalpelmjr: how do i install the w32codecs for totem?01:14
phixionwho was the guy that helped with identd?01:14
Mezarbir: hoary-changes@lists.ubuntu.com01:14
benplaut!info win32codecs01:14
Mez!w32codecs01:14
ubotuhmm... w32codecs is a set of codecs needed to play many common audio and video formats, such as WMV. You can install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org).01:14
arbirthanks Mez.....01:15
benplauthmm01:15
benplautubotu could stand to be a bit smarterm but nevertheless...01:15
ubotuNo idea, benplaut01:15
benplautbe quiet :)01:15
Seveas!forget w32codecs01:15
ubotuSeveas: i forgot w32codecs01:15
Nomad_1I'm looking at the GCC installation docs now and it looks quite beyond me and my Linux usage abilities. Is there someone that wouldn't mind helping me out with installing GCC?01:16
dimitrisAnyone has the deb package for amule 2.0.0 ??? I don't want to install 2.0.3 since i had some problems.01:16
benplautSeveas: why make it forget it?01:16
Seveasbenplaut, brainfart01:16
Seveasadded them again already :)01:17
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benplaut!win32codecs01:17
ubotubenplaut: I haven't a clue01:17
LinuxJonesNomad_1, sudo apt-get update && apt-get install build-essential01:17
Seveas!w32codecs01:17
ubotusomebody said w32codecs was a set of codecs needed to play many common audio and video formats, such as WMV. You can install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org).01:17
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benplautoh01:17
benplautan extra "in" :P01:17
Seveasnope01:17
Seveasadded the same text back01:18
Nomad_1LinuxJones: That = greek to me mate. I don't see how that would help me with GCC.01:18
Seveasfor a moment i thought 'hey backports is now official so the url is wrong' but that part of backports didn't go official :)01:18
LinuxJonesNomad_1, if you want to compile using gcc the package build-essential will install everyting you need.01:19
Mez...?01:19
Nomad_1Thanks mate.01:19
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astronuti can't get attached to my wireless network..i did to a network at a hotel, but not at home... i thought i set everythign right, i can see the network, the router shows a connection with that MAC address on it, but i can't get a dhcp lease (or set it up using static values)....01:19
seifhi guys01:19
LinuxJonesNomad_1, you can sudo synaptic , then hit reload , then search for build-essential and install it from there01:19
seifhow does one delte an entry out of gdm01:19
seifi installed xfce01:20
linlinthere seems to be flying toasters and flying slices of bread on my ubuntu computer01:20
skalpelalso, how can i play .wma files in ubuntu?01:20
avanspronsenastronut: u using WEP?01:20
Seveasseif, by removing the .desktop file or simply purging the program you don't want anymore01:20
astronutskalpel: depends if they have drm01:20
skalpeli do not think they do01:20
astronutavanspronsen: ya, i set key using iwconfig wlan0 key hexvalue01:20
astronutis that right way to do it?01:20
skalpelhow can i find out?01:20
seifwhere od i find the .desktop files01:20
astronutseif: locate .desktop01:21
avanspronsenyou can also do it via System | Admin | Networking01:21
Seveasseif, /usr/share/xsessions/01:21
astronutavanspronsen: yes, well, that didnt' work either01:21
skalpelastrnut: how can i check and see if they are protected?01:21
astronutalso tried disabling wep01:21
avanspronsenastronut: can you connect if you temporarily disable WEP?01:22
astronutskalpel: protected?01:22
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astronutavanspronsen: see above01:22
astronuti tried without it..may have done it wrong though...will try again01:22
skalpelastonut: drm protected.01:22
seifhmmmmmm01:22
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astronutskalpel: oh, sorry, was confusing you with seif, i dunno01:22
Seveasskalpel, in that case: no way of playing them01:22
skalpelastronut: well, how would i go about playing non protected wma files in linux?01:22
skalpelseveas: i know, but i do not know if these are protected or not01:23
Nomad_1LinuxJones: I tried it both ways and came up with "Please insert the disk labeled: Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release amd64 (20050407) in drive /cdrom/" both times.01:23
seifi still can c an xfce entry in gdm alhtough there is no .desktop for it o01:23
seifonly for gnome and fvwm01:23
avanspronsenastronut: you can use "cat /etc/network/interfaces" in a terminal window to confirm settings?01:23
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Seveasseif, you need to restart gdm01:23
astronutavanspronsen: will, in one second, trying without wep01:23
Nomad_1LinuxJones: Is that the ubuntu "extra packages" disk.?01:23
Seveasor maybe even reboot01:23
seifi did01:23
seifi didi twice01:24
avanspronsenastronut: sounds good bud01:24
seifthere was no entry01:24
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seifin the xsession folde01:24
seifbut still in the menu01:24
wimsis it possible to check if a table contains a field named x ?01:24
astronutavanspronsen: doh01:24
astronutworked01:24
LinuxJonesma3x, ok first thing to do is comment out the cd reference in the file /etc/apt/sources.lst  >> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst01:24
BollocksMacenzieI just installed firestarter (firewall software) and for some reason I can run it from the menu with user privelidges, but when I set it to load with gnome it gives a root privelidges required error message! Why?01:24
astronutlets try with WEP now01:24
wimshmm sorry wrong channel01:24
skalpelhow can i play unprotected wma files in ubuntu?01:24
avanspronsenastronut: whenever I have those symptoms it is always WEP :-)01:24
LinuxJonesNomad_1, sorry that was for you ^^01:24
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seif:(01:25
linlinskalpel, try mplayer01:26
kyncaniBollocksMacenzie: look into ubuntu-users mailing list, it has already been asked01:26
Nomad_1I'll give it a shot01:26
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LinuxJonesNomad_1, once you make the change hit the reload button in synaptic and search for build-essential, then install it and you will be set.01:26
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Nomad_1LinuxJones: <Nods>, I'll brb. Dinner time.01:28
skalpellinlin: thank you.01:28
arbirMez... got it.. i hope it works soon. :-). also i see that postgresql is still in the 7.x series ? correct me if i am wrong01:28
LinuxJonesNomad_1, enjoy :)01:28
arbirMez: POstgresql has now upgraded to the 8.x series01:28
icewtare the prebuilt mplayer 1.0-pre7 packages for ubuntu? the ones for debian (marillat) won't work because of unmet depencies :/01:29
avanspronsenLinuxJones: Hey Buddy :-)01:29
f_newtonxvfj is the order for bz201:29
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f_newton?01:29
f_newtonwell that didnt work well01:29
BollocksMacenzieWhat is the best firewall software anyhow, I'd like something which would allow me to connect to the internet through ethernet and through wireless... But can't seem to find a firewall program which would allow this without editing the configuration scripts by hand!01:29
skalpelwhy is'nt gnomebaker in the bugbuddy list?01:29
Razor-XI found a good book for those of you who want to thoroughly learn Linux01:29
f_newtonBollocksMacenzie, firestarter is a gui frontend for iptables like shorewall01:29
HrdwrBoBfirestarter is firewall interface software01:30
HrdwrBoBthe firewall is implemented by the kernel in all cases01:30
f_newtonBollocksMacenzie, if you want an auto configured firewall just stick with the default choices01:30
MadpilotRazor-X: which book?01:30
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asdxI think my filesystem is currupted. and I can't boot01:30
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asdxwhat shall I do?01:31
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Razor-XMadpilot: SAMS UNIX System Administration - A beginners guide01:31
avanspronsenasdx: do you have a live CD?01:31
asdxyes01:31
HrdwrBoBugh sams01:31
asdxI'm using reiserfs01:31
Razor-Xwell, it's SAMS, but it's pretty nice01:31
Razor-Xleast, I think it's SAMS01:31
depraveasdx: run fschk?01:31
Razor-Xor is the author ``Sam'' hold on ;)01:31
MadpilotRazor-X: i've not been impressed by the Sam's books I've tried, but I'll see if the local library has it.01:31
avanspronsenasdx: I would try boot via the live cd and having a look01:31
HrdwrBoBI think if I need to read a beginners guide now, I'm in serious trouble01:32
asdxavanspronsen: ok01:32
MadpilotI prefer O'Reilly books, haven't seen a bad one yet01:32
avanspronsenasdx: try mounting the filesystem?01:32
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asdxavanspronsen: Ok. just mounted01:32
asdxavanspronsen: my files are there01:32
depraveanyone ever used tripwire here?01:32
Razor-XHrdwrBoB: it's for those who want to learn Linux ground up01:32
HrdwrBoBRazor-X: I realise that01:32
amonkeywhat package is the oggdec command part of?01:32
avanspronsenasdx: maybe just a grub problem?01:33
Razor-XO' Reiley's books are pretty nice01:33
Razor-Xthey have a real nice emacs book out01:33
asdxavanspronsen: grub works01:33
HrdwrBoBdeprave: I used it once but I didn't end up with enough time to do it properly01:33
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Razor-Xand a nice book on RegExps as well01:33
asdxavanspronsen: the ubuntu init scripts said that I should run reiserfsck --rebuild-tree01:33
Razor-Xno, not SAMS01:33
BollocksMacenzief_newton: I could do with something a little more complex, but I can't really be bothered to do all the fidly bits! And then there is the factor that firestarter wont load on boot!01:33
Razor-Xthe guy's name is Sam ;)01:33
asdxavanspronsen: but that will not lost my files right?01:33
asdxI have important files there01:34
avanspronsenasdx: ok, I haven't run into that before01:34
asdx--rebuild-tree : force fsck to rebuild filesystem from scratch (takes a long time)01:34
asdx:S01:34
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Razor-Xcan parted based software merge free space into partitions?01:34
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asdxI will do a backup of my files first01:35
avanspronsenasdx: sounds "ify" I would try to backup first01:35
avanspronsenasdx :-)01:35
asdx:P01:35
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avanspronsenasdx: good luck!01:35
redtechjasoncohen: hey I just wanted to say thanks again. My wifes pc is still kicking and hasnt exhibited any further problems.01:35
asdxavanspronsen: thx01:35
gilvthe package of sbcl for Lisp in hoary is 0.8, it's out-dated, and doesn't support utf8, it should be the 0.9 release, where i get a better package ?01:35
Razor-Xactually, I have quite a few books to read01:35
avanspronsenasdx: np bud01:35
Razor-Xgilv: compile away01:35
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Razor-XI haven't thoroughly read through the RegExp book, I still have my Ruby book to finish, and I have an exim book01:36
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Zodiachello01:36
VeonHi guys, I'm new to both Ubuntu and Linux. I'm thinking about changing theme, but when I go to Computer > Desktop Preferences, which I'm supposed to I can't find anything called Desktop Preferences in my Computer :S Anyone know what I could do?01:36
Razor-Xand they're all like, 600 pages long ;)01:36
ZodiacQuick question,,,01:36
gilvRazor-X: isn't there an address to add in sources.list to get an upgrade ?01:36
ZodiacWhat Totem codec do I need to play WMV files??01:36
mjrZodiac, for old wmvs, gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg may do; for newer ones, there aren't linux codecs. You may be able to make do with w32codecs and totem-xine, if you're running on x86.01:37
Razor-Xgilv: you can, but, i'm not sure if sbcl has one01:37
amonkeyhow can i get oggdec01:37
Razor-Xlook on the sbcl site01:37
MadpilotVeon: System - Prefs - Themes01:37
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Razor-Xis Computer -> Desktop Preferences a Windows thing?01:37
cafuegowhat?01:37
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MadpilotRazor-X: might be. I'm forgetting my Windows trivia as fast as I can...01:38
cafuegoRazor-X: No, it's not.01:38
Razor-Xcafuego: what is it?01:38
VeonI wish I installed Ubuntu in English :S Easyer to follow directions :P01:38
cafuegoRazor-X: Settings -> Display -> [Desktop tab] 01:38
Razor-XVeon: what language do you speak?01:38
VeonI found it! Thank you :D01:38
Razor-Xcafuego: ahh, there you go01:38
VeonI talk Norwegian ;)01:38
cafuegoAH, norsk!01:39
Razor-XVeon: if you know the two letter language code for that01:39
Razor-X(like en for English)01:39
Veonno01:39
Razor-Xthen, #ubuntu-<two-letter language code>01:39
Zodiacyea I do run totem xine... with that gstreamer codec mess up my system???01:39
Razor-X;)01:39
Razor-Xand they probably speak Norweigan01:39
mjrZodiac, if you run totem-xine, gstreamer codecs won't affect totem in any way01:39
cafuegoVeon: You can easily make your Ubuntu be english.01:39
VeonYeah, but I found the theme maneger ;) So, thanx :)01:39
ZodiacI see01:39
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VeonI do it b4 I login, right?01:40
ZodiacWell I am going to give the W32 codecs a go...01:40
BollocksMacenziekyncani: Looked, not there!01:40
Zodiacand see what happens01:40
cafuegoVeon: You do it in a config file (or two).01:40
VeonBut I tried to login with English, but the system crashed!01:40
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MadpilotVeon: there's a #ubuntu-no group here if that helps01:40
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conflikthey01:41
VeonMaybe later if I need it ;) I found the help I needed ;) Thanx.01:41
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confliktso yea i got my specs so i can fix my video01:41
cafuegoVeon: You need to edit /etc/locale.gen (Add en_UK.UTF-8 UTF-8); run 'locale-gen' and sert your vars to en_UK.01:41
sun_hi i have a .deb which i would like to install.  i did dpkg -i file.deb and it worked.  i tried out the program and everythign's fine.  however it has a dependency on libc one revision higher than that in ubuntu (ie debian testing).  so at the next opportunity aptitude wants to uninstall it.  how do i tell aptitude to "leave it alone"01:41
Razor-Xcan parted based applications merge free space into partitions?01:41
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Razor-Xcafuego: or en_US, if you want American English ;)01:42
cafuegoRazor-X: only contiguous free space.01:42
VeonOk, thank you. :)01:42
cafuegoRazor-X: No, he's european. They're not permitted en_US.01:42
Razor-Xcafuego: hmm, but, it can't resize a partition, and merge free space in one step?01:42
VeonI'll be on my way now. Thanx for all the help guys! :)01:42
Razor-Xcafuego: I know where Norway is ;)01:42
cafuegoRazor-X: Not without moving partitons; I don't know if it can do that.01:42
Razor-Xhmm.... :(01:43
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Razor-Xlemme see if PMagic can, if so, i'll have to go to my friend and borrow his disk -- again01:43
sun_hi i have a .deb which i would like to install.  i did01:43
sun_          dpkg -i file.deb and it worked.  i tried out the01:43
sun_          program and everythign's fine.  however it has a01:43
sun_          dependency on libc one revision higher than that in01:43
sun_          ubuntu (ie debian testing).  so at the next01:43
sun_          opportunity aptitude wants to uninstall it.  how do01:43
sun_          i tell aptitude to "leave it alone"01:43
Razor-Xsun_: paste in pastebin01:43
cafuegoRazor-X: Yes, PMAgic can.01:43
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Razor-Xcafuego: coolness ;)01:43
amonkeywhat can i use to decode mp3s to RAW?01:43
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cafuegosun_: Um, don't install debian packages with broken depends. install Ubuntu packages.01:44
asdxamonkey: lame01:44
asdxamonkey: lame --decode file.mp3 will decode to raw/wav01:44
Zodiacha ha01:44
ZodiacThat worke01:44
amonkeyasdx, /me slaps head01:44
amonkeythanks01:44
asdxamonkey: :)01:44
ZodiacThanks mjr :) !!!01:44
sun_cafuego ubuntu has it in multiverse but refuses to install it because of the depend?01:44
mjrshure01:44
sun_its called nut-nutrition01:45
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sun_whats ubuntu backports project?01:46
Deterministanyone tried that gdm over VNC thing yet? i cant seem to make it work right on my machine01:46
Mez!backports01:46
ubotumethinks backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted01:46
HrdwrBoBsun_: bringing new applications to hoary01:46
HrdwrBoB(firefox, gainm, etc)01:46
HrdwrBoBgaim01:47
levanderAnybody know how to specify the device to cdrecord for a cd drive when using cdrecord, when the cd drive is IDE?  I've been using just /dev/hdc, but cdrecord gives me a warning.  Anybody know how it's supposed to be done?01:47
amonkeyasdx, does that decode to stdout cuz i'm trying to pipe it into justeport01:47
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depravewhat filesystem do i specify for mounting a floppy drive?01:47
mjrlevander, you're supposed to happily ignore the warning01:47
levanderUbuntu is launching so many projects, you gotta wonder how they're gonna keep up with them all...01:47
levanderdeprave: the device file is /dev/fd001:48
asdxamonkey: I don't know, honestly..01:48
levanderdeprave: don't know what you mean by which filesystem01:48
depravewell when i mount /media/floppy it requests me to specify filesystem01:48
evilmegamanHi01:48
levandermjr: but that damn warning is filling up my log01:48
avanspronsendeprave: fat?01:48
Razor-Xdeprave: is it fat?01:48
HrdwrBoBlevander: cdrecord is written by very special people01:48
mjr"special" indeed01:48
mjrlevander, so, patch it out :)01:48
depraveit probably is, how do i format it to whatever linux uses by default01:49
levanderHrdwrBoB: meaning?01:49
evilmegamanI was wondering, How do I get the fglrx driver working and get ubuntu to stop using mesa3d?01:49
levandermjr: yeah, right01:49
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asdxamonkey: I just do like: for i in *.mp3 ; do lame --decode "$i" ; done. and then I have all my mp3s decoded to wav :P01:49
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amonkeywhat's the key to reset a terminal?01:49
HrdwrBoBlevander: well it's technical supported platform is solaris01:49
levanderHrdwrBoB: ahhhh01:49
mjrlevander, special in the way that they think you shouldn't be using evil ide burners at all, or at least you should refer to them with some made-up SCSI bus address. Or something like that.01:49
LokeDKisn't there a way to list all hidden directoryes (.*) with ls? ls .* lists them, but also lists what they contains01:50
levanderHrdwrBoB: well, at least cdrecord works.  I spent two days of free time, and part of a third trying to write to a dvdrw with udftools.01:50
mjrLokeDK, ls -d .*01:50
bimberiLokeDK: ls -a01:50
BollocksMacenzieEnough of this for 1 night, it's 1am (almost) and I was planning to get up a little early tommorow!01:50
levanderHrdwrBoB: I'm convinced that package just doesn't work.01:50
HrdwrBoBlevander: yeah it works, but apparently it's an accident, according to the main developer01:50
levanderBollocksMacenzie: lol @ was planning01:50
HrdwrBoBbut yeah I haven't used anything aside from that recently01:50
LokeDKah thx01:50
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BollocksMacenzietoodles!01:51
levanderHrdwrBoB: wish ubuntu would put some resources into optical drives instead of all these side projects they've got going01:51
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HrdwrBoBlevander: what needs to be done?01:51
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HrdwrBoBnautilus reads and writes CDs and DVDs on a basic level01:51
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kaffeendhello again... trying to mount this Ubuntu AMD 64 .ISO I installed Nero and ran a wizard for mounting (burning) an .ISO image onto the disc, but after the burn the file on the disc is a winRAR file - can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong please? I'm quickly running out of discs here01:51
HrdwrBoBand iirc breezy can burn music CDs01:51
JaZy84hey Seveas you still here01:51
JaZy84i did that sed thing01:51
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equexi wonder why i dont get OpenGL working on my Radeon9200, i installed the drivers from ATI, the module appears to be loaded (appears in lsmod) still it is in Mesa Indirect mode.. xorg.conf says its enabled. any ideas?01:52
HrdwrBoBkaffeend: you've burnt the iso onto a CD as a file01:52
JaZy84and i'm getting ALOT of packages that are being kept back. it didn't upgrade01:52
JaZy84from what i see.01:52
noxuse k3b01:52
confliktdoes ubuntu have it its own hardware configuer because i just downloaded my driver and installed01:52
HrdwrBoBkaffeend: you need to burn it as an image01:52
JaZy84how can i get around it holding back packages01:52
levanderHrdwrBoB: well, cdrecord that has proper output would be nice.  I have to log cdrecord output from cron so I don't get all these emails from cron.  Like the UNIX way, only emails when something fails under cron.01:52
evilmegamanequex I am here for the exact same reason01:52
levanderHrdwrBoB: and, more importantly, udftools does not work. I'm convinced of it after spending three days of free time trying to get it to work.01:52
mjrequex, dunno about the ATI binary driver, but by the way, 9200 _should_ work accelerated with the default free driver also01:52
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equexevilmegaman: lol01:52
kaffeendHrdwrBoB I was informed by the Nero Wizard that that's exactly what it was doing01:53
equexmjr: seems 2d acc is working , but GL doesnt work01:53
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levanderHrdwrBoB: can't mount a dvdrw and write to it like a normal filesystem at all under linux.  I don't think it's ubuntu specific01:53
JaZy84never mind need dist-upgrade not upgrade :P01:53
evilmegamanI have 9550 so I need the non free one01:53
confliktand someone gimme a hand ?01:53
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cafuegoIsn't a 9550 just an ove4rclocked 9200?01:53
evilmegamanI suppose01:54
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evilmegamanI don't think so01:54
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kaffeendI began by making a data cd - should I have chosen Bootable disc?01:54
fishieomg i just shat my pants01:54
fishie:\01:54
levanderLinux has always been a little behind when it comes to optical drives.  Remember when you use to have to switch your CD drive to be handled by ide-scsi to burn discs?  That was odd, and was advanced configuration of Linux, newb couldn't do it.01:54
mjrcafuego, nope01:54
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mjrcafuego, the r300.sourceforge.net project is making good progress in supporting that and other newer radeons, but no release yet01:55
kaffeendlevander - if you're talking to me, I have no idea what you just said :/01:55
noxhow to install a new kernel?01:55
noxsomebody told me something about "sudo apt-get install kern*"01:55
nickrudkaffeend, your answer is yes :)01:55
noxsomething like that01:55
levanderkaffeend: was talking to HrdwrBoB, hopefully he understood01:56
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kaffeendnickrud - you mean bootable disc?01:56
nickrudkaffeend, yes01:56
kaffeendokay01:56
kaffeendbut it was gonna be 28 meg01:56
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HrdwrBoBlevander: ah01:56
HrdwrBoBlevander: basically 'most' people just burn write-once DVDs using the GUI or gnomebaker etc01:57
levanderthose two things, and I'd be happy with optical drives under Linux, note that I really don't think it's ubuntu specific.  Think it's all of linux01:57
avanspronsenkaffeend: Nero has an option for writing an ISO.  The ISO once written will ensure the disc is bootable01:57
levanderHrdwrBoB: true, most people01:57
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kaffeendlevander - similarly, Windows DOESN'T recognise SATA as anything BUT SCSI01:57
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ColonelKernelrofl , my ban get refreshed in #fedora, banned since jul 8 for nuthin - introduced me to ubuntu though - thanks anvil01:58
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levanderkaffeend: but, you didn't have to reconfigure your drivers to recognize it as such under Windows.01:58
Madpilotif I'm messing around with adding my own scripts to BASH, should I stick them in .bashrc or .bash_profile?01:58
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acidspoonhi @ll01:58
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levanderkaffeend: wouldn't have mattered to me if it was auto-handled for you01:58
HrdwrBoBlevander: I'm using an SATA drive on two motherboards, both worked fine01:58
kaffeendlevander - oh yes I did01:58
acidspoonkann mir jemand bitte sagen, wie ich grub wieder in den mbr schreibe01:58
floppyearsMadpilot: .bashrc01:58
levanderHrdwrBoB: I was talking history, they fixed the ide-scsi thing in kernel 2.601:58
acidspoonmein windows liegt auf hda101:58
kaffeendsetup said there was no device detected01:58
acidspoonubuntu auf hdb101:58
mjrlevander, packet writing support is available for Linux out of tree, but I agree it'd be nice if it was polished and made easily available and usable01:58
Madpilotfloppyears: thanks.01:58
HrdwrBoBlevander: yeah true01:59
Madpilot!de01:59
ubotuMadpilot: Wish i knew01:59
gilvwhat's the command to manually install a deb package ?01:59
gilvubuntu.deb package01:59
catolhdpkg -i <package>01:59
avanspronsengilv: dpkg -I01:59
floppyearsgilv: dpkg -i01:59
sdlkfzi'm thinking about moving to ubuntu, what is the difference between that and Debian sid?01:59
HrdwrBoBsdlkfz: ubuntu is like debian only .. better02:00
floppyearssdlkfz: ubuntu has a much better community. Ubuntu is targeted more towards desktops, ubuntu has great docs and website02:00
ZodiacUbuntu is greatness wrapped in pure sweetness02:00
HrdwrBoBfor the desktop02:00
evilmegamanCan anyone tell me what I need to do to get the fglrx driver to take the place of mesa3d?02:00
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HrdwrBoBfor the server, there's little difference02:00
sdlkfzcool02:00
gilvfloppyears: it will automatically erase or upgrade my old package installed with synaptics, right ?02:01
sdlkfzi've been trying out many linux flavors recently, and they have turned out better than i thought with just two annoying problems: installing java and playing this xvid file02:01
sdlkfzi know debian doesn't have a java deb file02:01
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kaffeendIs it possible that someone here can give me a step by step on making this disc please? I know it's a lot to ask, but I am quite obviously thick as 6 bricks02:02
equexUbuntu is greatness wrapped in pure sweetness <- ubuntu made me switch from windows after 10 years of it.. used amiga/etc. before that02:02
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ColonelKernelUbuntu is very nice, im in the process of migrating from windoze now02:03
floppyearsgilv: it will install that package. If you already have a newer version of that package it won't downgrade.02:03
HrdwrBoBwhy does NFS give me load averages of ridiculous amounts02:03
Madpilotkaffeend: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto has Windows instructions02:03
floppyearsgilv: it will install that package if it's newer than what you have on your system02:03
equexi havent booted windows in two weeks or so02:03
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kaffeendMadpilot - tried that but I couldn't make much sense of it02:04
equexall that remains is to get OpenGL to work now :(02:04
kaffeendI'm REALLY tired02:04
mjrsdlkfz, there isn't prepackaged java for ubuntu either, but there is an automatic packager. As for xvid, gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg (or totem-xine) is required from universe so that totem will play those, due to patent restrictions02:04
Madpilotkafeine: it's only six steps - not sure how much simpler it could be made.02:04
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windexquestion02:05
farohlinux-wlan-ng-X.Y.Z.tar.gz where can I find this file?02:05
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farohlinux-wlan-ng-X.Y.Z.tar.gz where can I find this file?02:05
windexi appear to be missing manpages that exist in libc-dev packages on debian and i can't find them. e.g. pthread_create02:05
sdlkfzgreat, i'll try it out; i'm running yoper right now but it's community is small02:05
mjrsdlkfz, (of course, I was referring to Sun's java; the usual free java implementations are available, with their current limitations)02:05
kaffeendMadpilot - it directed me to download a beta something or other... that's where I got lost02:05
sdlkfzheh, yoper's website has been down all day02:05
Madpilotkaffeend: the ISO burning program? apparently Windows has no built-in ISO burners, which bites02:06
kaffeendand please treat me as simpler02:06
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kaffeendfound that out the hard way02:06
Razor-Xany LaTeXers here right now?02:06
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sdlkfzdvddecrypter is a good small iso burner02:06
farohi have a sitecom wl-012 usb adapter, i have upgraded the wlan-ng package02:06
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farohbut doesnt work02:06
ColonelKernelsdlkfz, works well in windoze, esp for ripping dvd's02:06
Madpilotkaffeend: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/Beta.htm  <- very first link on this page is the file you want, I think02:07
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cafuegoOooher.02:07
farohi am under windows now because i can't get internet on my ubuntu02:07
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kaffeendMadpilot - I do have Nero (now that I installed it on someone else's recommendation) can I not use that instead of this other thing?02:07
windexoohh.02:07
windexits in glibc-doc02:07
windexhow silly.02:07
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noxkaffeend, why don`t you just use k3b ?02:08
Madpilotkaffeend: no idea, I never used Nero. check the Nero docs to see if it'll burn ISOs02:08
ColonelKernelyes nero burns isos02:08
sdlkfznero does02:08
farohlinux-wlan-ng-X.Y.Z.tar.gz where can I find this file?02:08
cafuegokaffeend: Recorder -> Burn Image02:08
Madpilotcan someone who knows Nero help kaffeend?02:08
kaffeendMadpilot - I'll follow your link and your advice - thanks again everyone for putting up with me02:08
Razor-Xahhh, nevermind, my LaTeX was fixed02:08
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farohlinux-wlan-ng-X.Y.Z.tar.gz where can I find this file?02:09
cafuegofaroh: Nowhere.02:09
sdlkfzkaffeend: open nero, select burn image file, under file type choose All Files02:09
kaffeendI actually have slight brain damage which is quite restricting at times so I am slow to type and absorb some things02:09
faroh??02:09
cafuego!find linux-wlan-ng02:09
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'linux-wlan-ng' (2 shown): linux-wlan-ng ;; linux-wlan-ng-doc.02:09
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sdlkfzkaffeend: and find the iso02:09
cafuegofaroh: apt-get install linux-wlan-ng02:09
farohi did02:10
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farohbut didnt worked02:10
arbiranybody uses PostgreSQL ?02:10
farohhe does find my usb adapter02:10
cafuegofaroh: Is your card supported?02:10
kaffeendsldkfz thankyou for that02:10
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farohi have a prism2 card02:10
faroh2.x02:10
sdlkfzkaffeend: so it worked?02:10
cafuegofaroh: Probably not, then.02:10
farohi tried everything but i won't work02:11
cafuegofaroh: Why not just use the orinoco or prism driver?02:11
farohorinico?02:11
kaffeendsdlkfz no  I haven't gotten that far yet :/02:11
farohhow do you mean02:11
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farohprism driver?02:11
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farohi tried  the drivers from my usb adpater02:12
farohbut wouldn't work02:12
cafuegoI'm pretty sure the kernel has prism-usb drivers built-in.02:12
farohbut where?02:13
farohi am a real newbie02:13
farohi know my way around but it's new02:13
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kaffeendsdlkfz I do not have those options anywhere in Nero that I can see - for example I could not find "burn image file"02:14
kaffeendmy mistake I have found it! it is the only icon with a folder02:16
sdlkfzkaffeend: yea, it's easy to miss02:16
crimsunMez: cat /proc/asound/modules02:16
kaffeendit is for me02:16
sdlkfzhow new is ubuntu?02:17
DiscipulusPretty new02:17
kaffeendI must admit that I am almost overwhelmed by the enormity of this "project".02:17
ColonelKernelnew distro, good distro, great support community02:17
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ColonelKernelI havent seen any of the ops in here go nuts '02:17
sdlkfzlooks like it02:17
Arniahm. anyone here able to help me with some evangelism for a project?02:17
ColonelKernelcant say the same for  #fedora and #debian02:18
sdlkfzi looove debian as a server02:18
ColonelKerneldebians a great distro with a very nasty channel02:18
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ArniaI have a web page but I need someone who doesn't know anything about the project to tell me what bits make no sense02:18
Mezcrimsun, I'm in breezy atm02:18
sdlkfzabout a year ago #debian was really helpful02:18
ColonelKernelfedora is a weak distro with a nasty support channel02:18
XenguyColonelKernel: you just have to know who to /ignore :-)02:18
MadpilotArnia: post the url?02:19
crimsunMez: ping me when you're in Hoary again.02:19
sdlkfzi went in last week, and yea, not great02:19
ArniaMadpilot: http://www.dur.ac.uk/j.r.c.geldart/projects/frege/02:19
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ColonelKernelXenguy, kind of hard to ignore ops who ban you for nothing.02:19
kaffeendwell, thankyou sdlkfz and others (sorry for not naming you all) for your advice and help - now I have a cd to burn02:19
Mezcrimsun: give me a sec to finish making this pbuild and I will reboot02:19
windexColonelKernel, debian people are just bitter from all the bad press recently. :)02:19
XenguyColonelKernel: they do not suffer foolish questions/behaviour for long, true02:19
Mezcrimsun: see you on the flip side02:19
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ColonelKernelXenguy, they commit foolish/childish/bipolar behavior all the time. God forbid you actually ask some support questions.02:20
transgresskeyboard.c: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 24002:20
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transgressi keep getting that error in dmesg02:20
XenguyColonelKernel: meh, I agree and I disagree -- it depends02:20
transgressand it makes my bios beep02:21
transgressbut i don't know what causes it02:21
MadpilotArnia: well, very little of it makes sense - but that's me, not the writing. ;) Actually, for technical writing it seems clearer than most...02:21
transgressany help?02:21
stan-amhey guys02:21
windextransgress, you seem to be hitting a key that the keymap in the kernel does not know what to do with.02:21
arbirwhere can i find the latest PostgreSQl packages?02:21
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ColonelKernelXenguy, perhaps - when they put ops in there they know are bipolar and abusive, the channel is crap. THerefore the support is crap. Hence, the distro is crap for anyone but developers.02:21
transgresswindex: it doesn't happen when i'm typing... it just happens seemingly continually02:21
windextransgress, do you perhaps have a logitech keyboard with a boat load of silly keys for navigation?02:21
stan-amdoes anyone have a url to download XML-PARSER?02:21
ArniaMadpilot: I'm trying to put the word around without a blog. Its a little tricky :)02:21
arbiri have tried in backports as well.. but i dont see the 8.x series of postgresql02:21
transgresswindex: yes i do, but i'm not hitting any unmapped keys... this stuff happens while i sleep heh02:22
XenguyColonelKernel: Let's agree to disagree :-)02:22
windextransgress, hm. not sure then. your keyboard might be faulty and sending random keys? :) that error is almost always due to what i described above in my experience, but YMMV02:22
cafuegotransgress: got a cat?02:22
windex+1 cafuego02:22
transgresscafuego: ha yes, but she isn't walking on the keyboard lol.02:22
stan-amhello?02:22
stan-amdoes anyone have a url to download XML-PARSER?02:22
cafuegotransgress: I wouldn't be so sure...02:23
cafuegotransgress: I know for a fact mine do, when I'm not looking.02:23
windexstan-am, perl module?02:23
transgresscafuego: well it just happened like 30 seconds ago, but i was standing up talking on the phone next to the keyboard02:23
cafuegoOne of the bastards actually typed stuff into a root shell.02:23
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stan-amyes windex02:23
stan-amperl module02:23
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Geist|Patrickhi02:23
Madpilotcafuego: reason #6442 not to run as root ;)02:24
transgresscafuego: haha teach you to leave a rootshell openh02:24
windexstan-am, 'sudo perl -MCPAN -e shell', then type 'install XML::Parser' into its prompt.02:24
Discipulusanyone here upgraded to the 2.6.11 kernel?02:24
nJessdoes ndiswrapper work in ubuntu 64?02:24
ColonelKernelXenguy, nothing to disagree about really - for me, its pointless to use a distro if you go to the support channel and get banned by some crazy man for no reason. If you disagree I guess thats your preogative, maybe youre a developer or you know enough programming to figure out your own problems, but for someone who's looking to migrate from windoze, or learn more about linux, its really pointless to use a distro who's community is intent on discouragi02:24
ColonelKernelng learning.02:24
cafuegotransgress: I was only gone for 2 mins, to make a coffee.02:24
windexstan-am, you may need to do some configuration02:24
XenguyColonelKernel: I'm not arguing anymore02:24
Mezcrimsun, ping02:24
ColonelKernelok.02:24
crimsunMez: pong02:24
windexstan-am, unless you have a funky network you can tell it you are not ready for configuration and it will use defaults.02:25
ka234Is GnomeBaker 0.4 going to be in the repositories some time?02:25
Mezcrimsun am in hoary - wanna take this in private?02:25
cafuego!info gnomebaker breezy02:25
crimsunMez: here's fine02:25
ubotugnomebaker: (application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.3+20050430-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 1268 kB02:25
Geist|Patrickhas someone an idea how to figure out the driverversion of ati's driver which is avaible in synaptic02:25
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cafuegoka234: I wouldn't hole my breath02:25
nJess!ndiswrapper02:25
ubotu[ndiswrapper]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper02:25
ka234oh so its only for Breezy then?02:25
ColonelKernelwhat is gnomebaker?02:25
Mezcrimsun make sure you say my name then or I'm more likely to miss it :D02:25
crimsunMez: of course02:25
cafuegoka234: Probably; except it's not even in breezy yet.02:26
Discipulus!info gnomebaker hoary02:26
ubotugnomebaker: (application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.3-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 384 kB, Installed size: 1244 kB02:26
Mezcrimsun, so whta first?02:26
crimsunMez: cat /proc/asound/modules02:26
DiscipulusColonelKernel, a CD burning application02:26
stan-amwindex what was that command??02:26
windexstan-am, did that help?02:26
Mez0 snd_cmipci02:27
Mez1 snd_bt87x02:27
Mez2 snd_usb_audio02:27
Mezcrimsun ^^02:27
Geist|Patricki reconfigured xserver and get following output:02:27
Geist|Patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/88402:27
crimsunMez: which do you want to use?02:27
Discipulusanyone using 2.6.11?02:27
stan-ami got some manual configuration thing02:27
Mezcrimsun, 002:27
windexstan-am, 'sudo perl -MCPAN -e shell' to launch cpan, then 'install XML::Parser' into that program02:27
Geist|Patrickis this correct02:27
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stan-amwhat is cpan?02:27
wardhanahelo,,,02:27
crimsunMez: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:27
stan-amsorry im such a newbie...02:27
cafuegowindex: No!02:27
windexcafuego, hm?02:28
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cafuegostan-am: cpan is a perl archive. Do NOT do what windex said.02:28
wardhanahelp me ...02:28
cafuegowindex: dh-make-perl02:28
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windexcafuego, and that does?02:28
Discipuluscafuego, why shouldn't he run that comman?02:28
Discipuluscafuego, why shouldn't he run that command?02:28
cafuegowindex: turns cpan downloads into .deb files02:28
windexcafuego, when installing perl modules, cpan is usually the place to start.02:28
flodinehello can someone help me with openbox please02:28
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wardhanawhat i do if my password lost02:28
cafuegoDiscipulus: it will install fiels the package system doesn't know about.02:29
Mezcrimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/88502:29
wardhana?02:29
windexcafuego, ok? and? :)02:29
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windexright.02:29
cafuegowindex: This is normally considered BAD>02:29
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stan-amhow do i know if xml got installed windex?02:29
cafuegodh-make-perl --cpan XML::Parser02:29
windexcafuego, depends. many packages in cpan aren't in the apt repositories.02:29
crimsunMez: that's all the output?02:29
cafuegowindex: Correct, that's what dh-make-perl is *for*02:30
stan-amhow do i know if xml got installed windex?02:30
windexstan-am, if cpan completed and came back to a prompt, it's likely done.02:30
stan-amit didnt02:30
Mezcrimsun - from amixer yes02:30
stan-amcrap...02:30
cafuegoThe above example creates libperlxml-parser_foo.deb02:30
windexstan-am, what did it do?02:30
windexstan-am, is it still running?02:30
cafuegoWhich you can then install (and manage) via the normal tools.02:30
flodinesomeone running openbox help me02:30
crimsunMez: then 1.0.6's asound.state is incompatible with 1.0.9b's for your card02:30
stan-am  Is already unwrapped into directory /root/.cpan/build/XML-Parser-2.3402:31
stan-am  Has already been processed within this session02:31
stan-amRunning make test02:31
stan-am  Can't test without successful make02:31
stan-amRunning make install02:31
stan-am  make had returned bad status, install seems impossible02:31
cafuegoSo you don't get files that a normal upgrade might not expect and BREAK on.02:31
wardhanaalooo02:31
Mezcrimsun, wha?02:31
wardhanawhat i do if my password lost02:31
windexstan-am, hrm..02:31
cafuegostan-am: 'sudo apt-get install dh-make-perl'02:31
stan-amlemme see cafuego02:31
windexstan-am, yeah do what cafuego is saying.02:31
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windexstan-am, his way is technically better.02:31
cafuegostan-am: Then 'dh-make-perl --cpan XML::Parser'02:31
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crimsunMez: you need to delete /var/lib/alsa/asound.state after unloading all the modules, then reinsert them02:31
cafuegos/technically/02:32
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snivitz0How do I give Nautilus a transparent background?02:32
Mezcrimsun: so I cant use sound in breezy and in hoary?02:32
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crimsunMez: you will have to do this everytime you boot back into Hoary after running Breezy.02:32
cafuegostan-am: .. when that finished, you have a new .deb file you can install. it MAY or may not give you errros/warnings when you install it, due to windex'es command failing.02:32
Mezcrimsun, is it not possible to backport it?02:33
stan-amthen how can i install that file cafuego?02:33
windexcafuego, it should be fine, his cpan error meant it bailed out.02:33
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crimsunMez: sure, it's possible, but you'll have to watch the versioned depends.02:33
cafuegostan-am: See if it works first02:33
Mezcrimsun, what would I need to backport02:33
cafuego!find xml-parser02:33
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'xml-parser' (3 shown): libxml-parser-perl ;; libxml-parser-ruby1.6 ;; libxml-parser-ruby1.8.02:33
cafuegojesus, it's already apckages anyway02:33
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cafuegostan-am: 'sudo apt-get install libxml-parser-perl'02:33
crimsunMez: anything that alsa-base and alsa-utils touch.02:33
cafuegostan-am: .. done.02:34
Flying_Eaglehowdy02:34
stan-amcafuego: i did, it sez " The following NEW packages will be installed:02:34
stan-am  dh-make-perl libyaml-perl02:34
stan-am0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.02:34
stan-amNeed to get 80.3kB of archives.02:34
stan-amAfter unpacking 328kB of additional disk space will be used.02:34
stan-amDo you want to continue [Y/n] ? y02:34
stan-amGet:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe libyaml-perl 0.35-1 [60.2kB] 02:34
stan-amGet:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe dh-make-perl 0.12 [20.1kB] 02:34
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stan-amFetched 80.3kB in 7s (10.1kB/s)02:34
stan-am"02:34
crimsunstan-am: please don't flood02:34
cafuegostan-am: Thank you for not pasting into the channel.02:34
Mezcrimsun- touch ?02:34
bimberiwardhana: boot into recovery mode and change it with "passwd <username>"02:34
Mezyou mean rdepends/02:34
stan-amcafuego: sorry dude02:34
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cafuegostan-am: 'sudo apt-get install libxml-parser-perl'02:34
cafuegostan-am: it's already prepackaged.02:34
wardhanaany human02:34
wardhanahere02:34
bimberiwardhana: boot into recovery mode and change it with "passwd <username>"02:35
wardhanaaloooo02:35
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wardhanaya02:35
Mezcrimsun: wouldnt I just have to backport alsa-base and alsa-utils?02:35
crimsunMez: sec, phone02:35
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Mezkk crimsun poke me when back02:35
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GorthGUYS02:36
stan-amcafuego: it did set up some things, is there anything else i can do to check it did work?02:36
cafuegoGIRLS02:36
GorthMR LINUX DIDN'T LET ME SET A ROOT PASSWORD DURING SETUP :(02:36
cafuegostan-am: it worked.02:36
cafuegoGorth: So?02:36
Gorthhow am i supposed to log into root?!02:36
stan-amcafuego: thanks a lot bro!02:36
cafuegoGorth: Why do you thjink you need one?02:36
stan-amu rule man02:36
stan-amhehe02:36
cafuegoGorth: The idea is you log in as normal user and use 'sudo'.02:36
wardhanaboot into recovery mode ?02:36
Flying_Eaglegorth: sudo passwd root02:36
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wardhanahow boot into recovery mode ?02:37
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Gorththanks eagle02:37
windexstan-am, sorry i couldn't help better. turns out i'm retarded. :D02:37
wardhanamore detail02:37
glickexcuse me, does anyone know where i can find a good personal budgeting/finance program?02:37
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stan-amwindex: u guys know what u r talking about, im just lost in this command jungle, fucking windows fried my mind for too many years02:38
cafuegoglick: CafuegoBank will help you. Would you mind eating noodles for the next 4 years?02:38
stan-amwindex: thx a lot for ure help too dude02:38
glickim serious02:38
pax!find kmymoney202:38
ubotukmymoney2: (Personal finance manager for KDE), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.6.4-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1452 kB, Installed size: 4156 kB02:38
sdlkfzglick: i hear gnucash is good02:38
windexstan-am, well, as it turns out, inferior perl module distribution systems have fried my mind for too many years.02:38
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cafuegoglick: Gnucash?02:38
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bimberiwardhana: reboot your PC; when the grub menu appears use the arrow keys to select the option with "(recovery mode)" at the end; press Enter02:38
chaps0063how do I get a higher version than 1.0.2 of firefox?02:38
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chaps0063I tried apt-get install mozilla-firefox and now its not working right02:39
Gorthdobo@bunito:~$ sudo passwd root02:39
GorthPassword:02:39
GorthSorry, try again.02:39
cafuegochaps0063: The security updates archives carry 1.0.6 atm.02:39
stan-amwindex: i wish i knew wtf im doin in front of the console02:39
stan-amwindex: hehe02:39
cafuegochaps0063: Do you have those enabled in sources.list?02:39
windexstan-am, just remember the worst thing that can happen is that you have to reinstall. :)02:39
cafuegostan-am: In 10 more eyars, you will.02:39
chaps0063cafuego: I think so...how do I get apt-get to stop trying with the current downloaded updates?02:40
crimsunMez: back. No, you'd have to tweak their build-depends, too, and consequently their respective depends.02:40
cafuegoGorth: 'sudo -s' "your password" - voila, root shell.02:40
bimberiGorth: try life without a root account; it takes a bit of getting used to but it works02:40
windexcafuego, oddly, that's about how long i've been using linux, and i'm still missing pieces. :D02:40
crimsunMez: you'll see when you try.02:40
stan-amwindex,cafuego: i already re formatted 6 times... ive been using ubuntu for less than a month02:40
cafuegochaps0063: Just ctrl-c it02:40
Gortheveryone: :(02:40
dibbonI happen to be an avid root lover02:40
floppyearschaps0063: apt-get clean02:40
chaps0063it has stopped but with errors...02:40
cafuegoGorth: 'sudo -s' "your password" - voila, root shell.02:40
stan-amwindex, cafuego: i guess thats the only way to learn02:40
Mezcrimsun: I may have to tweak their depends ... but they are the two packages that I backport - yes?02:40
windexstan-am, hah! :) see, from wasting all the time on reinstalling, you'll eventually train yourself to read docs first.02:40
floppyearsGorth: try sudo -i02:40
cafuegostan-am: By fucking up somewhat massively, yes indeed :-)02:41
crimsunMez: iirc, you will touch discover and hotplug, too, but it has been a couple months02:41
stan-amwindex: wise words02:41
stan-amcafuego: haha02:41
cafuegoGorth: Step one is realising you have no need for a root shell.02:41
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Gorth...02:41
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Gorthguys this is crazy02:41
JaZy84can someone help me with a codec problem i installed vlc.. i can get video to play but no audio02:41
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chaps0063cafuego: it tells me to try apt-get -f install02:42
cafuegoGorth: Think outside the box, c'mon.. you can do it.02:42
crimsunJaZy84: are you using the default Hoary sound settings?02:42
windexGorth, no its not. really, you do not need to run everyday applications as root. if you need a root shell, use sudo /bin/bash02:42
bimberiGorth: crazy?02:42
chaps0063cafuego: and i do that and it doesn't work out.02:42
JaZy84i have a mp3 and i tried playing with toem but was told that no decoder was found.02:42
JaZy84..02:42
floppyearsJaZy84: try mplayer it has very good codec support02:42
JaZy84i think so02:42
stan-amwindex, cafuego: its just that im not used to run a command in order to make the OS do things automatically, im used to download zips and running exes02:42
crimsunJaZy84: then you need to install 'vlc-esd'02:42
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cafuegochaps0063: Hmm. Mebbe continue 'im then (type sudo apt-get -f install and let it finish)02:42
JaZy84thanks crimsun02:42
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JaZy84i'll try that.02:42
Gorthi don't use root for everyday stuff02:42
paxGorth: sudo passwd root <yourpass> (nock yourself out)02:42
Gorthjust setting privileges and whatnot02:42
chaps0063cafuego: it doesn't finish.02:42
cafuegoGorth: yeah, sudo is great for that.02:42
floppyearsGorth: run root only when absolutely necessary02:42
cafuegoGorth: And you only need your _own_ password.02:43
gigaclonGorth, sudo is the bomb02:43
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windexGorth, thats fine, use sudo /bin/bash. sudo is more secure than enabling a root password. i promise. :)02:43
XenguyGorth: it's a different security model, and there are pro's and con's -- read more on the web site for gory details02:43
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cafuegoGorth: You'll be used to it after a day, I promise :-)02:43
stan-amwindex, cafuego: its just that im not used to run a command in order to make the OS do things automatically, im used to download zips and running exes02:43
Mezcrimsun: hmm02:43
stan-amwindex, cafuego: i just cannot get used to all o those commands02:43
sklpsudo owns ;-)02:43
chaps0063cafuego: it talks about a broken pipe...02:43
Gorthwhenever i try sudo for ANYTHING02:43
Gorthit asks for a password02:43
XenguyGorth: personally, I tried the 'new sudo' method and absolutely hated it ;-)02:43
cafuegoGorth: YOUR password02:43
ArniaGorth: Enter your own password02:43
floppyearsGorth: you type in your own password02:43
GorthOH02:43
cafuegoGorth: Not a root password02:43
gigaclonGorth, use your user password02:43
Gorthhahaha02:43
Gorthsorry guys02:43
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cafuego<heh>02:44
windexsomeone does not know how sudo works! :D02:44
Gorthi've never used it02:44
cafuegoGorth: basically, anything needing to run as root, put sudo in front of it.02:44
Gorth...02:44
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cafuegoGorth: if you need a shell, 'sudo -s'02:44
JaZy84crimsun will i have to reboot, cuz i instlled it through apt.. ran again and still no change.02:44
Gorthdoes this mean that any user can do sudo?!02:44
windexoh, that too02:44
windexi always just sudo /bin/bash02:44
cafuegoGorth: No, ONLY users in the 'admin' group.02:45
crimsunJaZy84: no, you don't have to reboot.02:45
paxGorth: have to be in the sudoers list02:45
wardhanai did`nt wrote password first installation02:45
windexGorth, only users in the 'admin' group, which the default user is in02:45
wardhana???02:45
cafuegoGorth: Which by default is ONLY the user you added during install.02:45
floppyearsGorth: no, you can set that up with visudo02:45
JaZy84no dice on that.. is there a codec pack?02:45
jasoncohenredtech, i'm glad i could help02:45
wardhanaso can`nt login...02:45
crimsunJaZy84: you need to restart vlc, of course02:45
JaZy84duh :P02:45
JaZy84i did, and still nothing02:45
cafuegoGorth: You can fiddle with the config file and say add root access for specific users for only specific commands etc. Very nice.02:45
windexor you can add everyone you want to have root access to the admin group02:46
crimsunJaZy84: gstreamer0.8-mad installed?02:46
chaps0063 /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.0.6-1ubuntu1~5.04ubp1_i386.deb...E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:46
bimberiwardhana: if you boot into recovery mode you won't be asked for a password02:46
stan-amwindex, cafuego: whats the sudo apt-get command to get a C compiler installed_02:46
windexor you can decide to let everyone become root and put NOPASSWD: in the flags.02:46
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JaZy84not sure02:46
wardhanai did`nt wrote password first installation, so i can not login. what i must do...????02:46
cafuegowardhana: Reboot the machine, choose 'Recovery Mode' from the menu. Wait for a shell, type 'passwd username' - set a password.02:46
cafuegostan-am: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:46
Octaneanyone know why did installing htdig create a directory named 'htdig' in my /var/www that is filled with some random images?02:46
windexstan-am, my reccomendation is to install the following (via sudo aptitude install ..): gcc bison g++ manpages-dev glibc-doc automake autoconf02:47
Gorthwelp02:47
JaZy84no doesn't look like it was02:47
Gorththanks guys02:47
Gorthtime to go help grandma :O02:47
windexstan-am, that should give you enough utilities and manpages to do most compiler related tasks.02:47
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chaps0063any thoughts on that error?02:47
cafuegochaps0063: Ok, 'sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.0.6-1ubuntu1 ....'02:47
stan-amwindex, cafuego: superv guys, i better get my notepad n start takin note :P02:47
wardhanai did`nt found the choosing 'Recovery Mode' or anythink02:47
cafuegochaps0063: Then check for the ACTUAL error.02:48
ubuntuthis is me first time using linux02:48
JaZy84i installed it still same problem. no audio.. as far as movies/mp302:48
bimberiOctane: that will be files for the htdig web interface.  Try looking at http://localhost/htdig02:48
chris_anybody experience with asus_acpi (or other acpi modules)? I'm trying to get my asus-notebook hotkeys running, everything works fine, the only problem is, that it's executed 2 times (always), so it does not make sense since it turns off wlan and then 1 sec after again on - and I just do not get the error02:48
windexstan-am, :)02:48
Xenguyubuntu: congrats :-)02:48
Octanebimberi: there are no index files in there or anything else though02:48
cafuegoubuntu: ... and you got it online and on irc first try; good job :-)02:48
chaps0063cafuego:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package mozilla-firefox02:48
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ubuntuyeah, I`m using ubuntu live-CD..02:49
stan-amwindex, cafuego: can any of ya guys send me a private?02:49
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stan-amno ! there, sorry02:49
cafuegochaps0063: *nod* 'dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.0.6-1ubuntu1 ....'02:49
cafuegochaps0063: ... that ought to force it to overwrite that file.02:49
bimberiOctane: hm - not sure about that - does that link work though?02:49
wardhanai did`nt found the choosing 'Recovery Mode' or anythink .....................02:49
chaps0063dpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/mozilla-firefox', which is also in package mozilla-firefox02:50
Deterministwhat syntax should i use to add a fat32 hda1 and hda5 to fstab for full access?02:50
cafuego!vfat02:50
ubotufrom memory, vfat is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab02:50
cafuegoDeterminist: Fetch that file, it's a script that will do it _for_ you.02:50
Octanebimberi: well its just got images and my local httpd has directory listing disabled02:50
Deterministthanks02:51
amonkeyhow can i get xvnc4viewer to use 4.0 instead of 3.8 RFB protocol?02:51
sdlkfzwhat's the coolest thing i can do with a new ubuntu desktop?02:51
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wardhanacafuego ????02:51
equexwho here had a problem with radeon9200 and opengl direct mode02:52
equex?02:52
cafuegowardhana: If you'r running Ubuntu 5.04, it's there.02:52
equexi think i fixed it here02:52
DaveyAnyone managed to run Battlefield 2 on linux yet?02:52
bimberiOctane: k - sorry I don't have an htdig install at hand to compare.  Usually just works (tm)02:53
chaps0063any thoughts cafuego?02:53
ubuntuguys, can  I use other browser than mozilla, or I shoudn`t bother..02:53
Daveyubuntu, if by Mozilla, you mean Firefox, I wouldn't bother02:53
windexubuntu, firefox proably has the best support for most technologies of any of the available browsers.02:53
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Madpilotubuntu: you can install Opera if you want02:53
Madpilot!opera02:54
ubuntuis it free (opera)02:54
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Daveybut yes, you can install Galeon (never worked for me) or Ephiphany which are both based on the same rendering engine (Gecko), or you can try Opera (theres a How-To in the forums) or Konqueror02:54
windexthere is a free version, that places an advertisement in the top corner, ubuntu02:54
Daveyubuntu, its got an advert in it02:54
Madpilotubotu: free as in beer - it's got little two-line ads02:54
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Madpilot02:54
Xenguyubuntu: Opera is not free software; Firefox is.02:54
Daveyits really not a big deal02:54
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ubuntuso I should stay with the fox02:55
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bimberiOctane: iirc it requires some initial configuration02:55
Daveyubuntu, would you be so good as to change your nick (/nick YourNewNickHere) :)02:55
Xenguyubuntu: FF is an excellent browser, and only getting better02:55
Daveyand if you don't like something about it, an extension probably exists to correct it :)02:55
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ka234I didn't think linux could get adware/spyware?02:55
bimberiOctane: check "man htdig" or /usr/share/doc/htdig/README02:56
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Daveyka234, uhm, sure it can, if you install it ;)02:56
Madpilotka234: Opera isn't adware in that sense. There's just a little two-line google-ad along the top02:56
windexka234, adware, in operas sense, is simply a program that is supported by advertising02:56
Razor-XDavey: Linux has spyware?02:56
Daveyka234, but nobody creates anything that secretes itself on your hardware for Linux :)02:56
avanspronsenubuntu you may wanna check out the extensions though go to Tool | Extensions | Get more extensions from the menu02:56
Daveyharddrive, bleh02:56
Xenguyka234: if the source is open, then spyware routines could be spotted02:56
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Daveyka234, doesn't mean its not possible, just not worth it to the people paying :)02:56
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opiateanyone know how to change the font  for applications such as Firefox in KDE?02:57
ka234but their could be bad spyware for linux one day like windows?02:58
Razor-Xka234: I doubt that02:58
sklpif anyone want a good browser, i can recommend Epiphany :)02:58
windexka234, there can be a lot of bad things for linux. the thing is, if you follow the ubuntu 'rootless' philosophy, the chances of browser bugs leading to system compromise is slim.02:58
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nJessare there any known issues with ndiswrapper on 64bit ubuntu?02:58
Madpilotka234: if you can be convinced to install it, the probably02:58
Madpilots/the/then02:58
prodigyanyone know an easy way to access my Windows hard drives from Ubuntu?02:58
LokeDKopiate, try the kde control center02:58
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bimberi!ntfs02:59
ubuntugreat, I was able to that too (get the expensions screen for FF), all this in my old junk PC..running live CD..02:59
ubotu[ntfs]  the filesystem used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab02:59
lJlolel!ntfs02:59
Xenguyka234: think about it - most windows software/spyware is a black box; you can't see inside.  Free software offers the source code, so that sufficiently skilled people can *see* what the code is doing. So spyware is very unlikely to flourish in an 'open source' environment like linux02:59
windexka234, the biggest thing linux has going for it is that it's a smaller userbase than windows. if that starts to change, you will see more effort put forth into taking control over linux-based machines. but it's _much harder_ to do, and would depend on bugs that change between each distribution. so it's unlikely, even if.02:59
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bimberiprodigy: The script at the end of ubotu's post (above) will mount windows partitions automatically for you02:59
chortonAnyone here know about samba?03:00
avanspronsenprodigy: go to places | Connect to Server03:00
Zodiachey guys I am having this weird problem03:00
JaZy84a little bit chorton03:00
ZodiacI right click on an mp3 file03:00
Zodiacand go to properties to change the name, and the whole thing locks up03:01
ubuntusamba  yeah sure, I`m from brazil..just joking..couldn`t avoid..03:01
Zodiacthen I cant get to my home folder03:01
chortonI have samba installed via apt-get, and a shared folder set up.03:01
JaZy84heh03:01
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avanspronsenprodigy: did you mean local hard drive?03:01
Zodiacwhat is the dilly??03:01
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chortonBut I can't get to it from my other comps.03:01
JaZy84anhyone know anything about how to emulate the right click.. i have an ibook and it's only got 1 button.. can i use the 'apple' button?03:01
JaZy84have you added the user03:01
prodigyI mean to access my windows hard drives from Ubuntu03:01
prodigyI don't understand the scripts03:01
naliothJaZy84: use the F12 key03:02
robotgeekJaZy84: did u try f 1203:02
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cafuegoJaZy84: There are special entries in /proc to define keys for that; I think F12 is the default.03:02
chortonYes.03:02
JaZy84i saw nice f12 works03:02
robotgeekcool03:03
dmneobladeAnyone know a command-line tool to display information about an avi? Like, resolution, compression codec, and play length.03:03
prodigyanyone know an easy way to access my Windows hard drives from Ubuntu?  something understandable?03:03
windexJaZy84, someone made a hack once to enable a second button on the powerbook. don't recall the url offhand, but it required lots of patience and soldering. :)03:03
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robotgeekcafuego: i think /etc/systl.conf is the file03:03
dmneobladeProdigy: are they on the same computer? Or on a network?03:03
prodigysame computer03:03
robotgeeks/systl/sysctl03:03
holycowprodigy, nothing quite yet with a gui, you will need to edit /etc/fstab file for now03:03
Zodiacahhh03:03
JaZy84chorton look at httP://ubuntuguide.org under servers03:03
Zodiacstupid bug03:03
Zodiacwtf03:04
JaZy84gives you a walk though03:04
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JaZy84on how to setup and get working03:04
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avanspronsenprodigy: it is gonna look something like this:  mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/win03:04
chortonKay, lemme see.03:04
MagicFabhello all03:04
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MagicFabI need some help with sound03:04
Geist|Patrick?03:04
kev0rlol Zodiac u still busy?03:04
bimberiprodigy: yes, sorry, not very clear.  You need to download and execute the script on your PC03:05
avanspronsenprodigy: where win is a dir you create under the /mnt directory03:05
MagicFabI've gone through all I could find in the wiki (using hoary) and everything looks fine - but silent03:05
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JaZy84MagicFab is it only mp3s?03:05
ma3xhello guys! I would appreciate it very much if you can help me with this03:05
dmneobladeprodigy: Try this guide http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html03:05
MagicFabno, no CDs, no sound in the sample games, no mp303:05
MagicFabno error msgs though03:05
prodigyhow do I download the script?03:05
crimsunJaZy84: ever fix your mp3 problem?03:05
ma3xHow to unblock ports? Ubuntu blocks them by default, although they are forward on the router03:06
JaZy84nope03:06
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JaZy84installed those 2 things but still nothing03:06
Nomad_1Hey All.03:06
crimsunJaZy84: do other media types play?03:06
windexprodigy, do note that if your windows partitions are NTFS you should mount them read-only ('ro'), and not 'rw', read-write. the NTFS driver for Linux is not very good at writing data to NTFS volumes.03:06
JaZy84no mp3 sound..03:06
kev0ris there a repository for neroLINUX?03:06
JaZy84none play the mp303:06
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ma3xguys?03:06
snivitz0Does anyone know how to make Nautilus windows transparent?03:06
crimsunJaZy84: like ogg vorbis, flac, wav03:06
JaZy84haven't tried ogg, or wav.. etc03:06
anders__hello03:06
kev0rhi03:06
anders__can some tell my how i in terminalen can reed about firewall?03:07
Xenguyma3x: what exactly do you want to do?03:07
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lJlolelyouve used wav (normal cds)03:07
bimberiprodigy: if you're viewing it in a browser then save it from there03:07
rob_pma3x:  what are you trying to do?03:07
dmneobladeJaZy84: Do you have one or two soundcards in your system? (this includes integrated)03:07
astronutok, my network works without wep but not with it...what am i doing wrong?03:07
ma3xrob: forward the port for my mail03:07
Nomad_1What is the command for the terminal that is started from the System menu in the applications menu? (As in, xterm starts up the xterm program03:07
dmneobladekev0r: You have to go to nero.com and input your serial key.03:07
JaZy84just the intergrated.. i know it works.. cuz i had a working yesterday (upgraded the kernel) had to reformt and reinstall03:07
bimberiprodigy: then open a terminal, change to the directory you saved it in and type "sudo bash winmac_fstab"03:07
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s0cksHi03:07
edgarcan anyone tell me what this mean? http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/EpyonMelee/Screenshot-1.png03:08
s0cksI'm installing Ubuntu on my lappy, I might need some help03:08
edgari tried to install Java, cause i want to get Azerus running03:08
rob_pma3x:  So you have a mailserver running on your local pc and you want traffic from the 'Net to be able to reach it?03:08
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edgarand i got that error message03:08
ma3xrob_p: that's exactly Sir!03:08
edgaranyone have any idea what i should do?03:08
dmneobladeJaZy84: Ah. You probably need to reconfigure your sound server of choice. Do you know how to do that?03:08
nalioths0cks: are you in here causing trouble?03:08
anders__some one there03:08
avanspronsenastronut: if you do a cat /etc/network/interfaces do you see your wireless config?03:08
s0cksHow much memory do you need to run ubuntu?03:08
rob_pma3x:  Are you running any sort of a firewall on your PC?03:09
astronutavanspronsen: i got the wifi working fine03:09
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astronutwithout wep03:09
nalioths0cks: your toshiba should be adequate03:09
JaZy84well all other sounds in the system work dmneoblade.. but no i dont' know.. other then the front end that's provided in gnome03:09
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dmneoblades0cks: 128 mb or more if you want a GUI.03:09
ma3xrob_p: no Sir, only router with integrated firewall, but the ports are already forwarded03:09
prodigyokay, I did that bimberi, now they should be accessable?03:09
crimsunJaZy84: play a wav file03:09
astronutavanspronsen: i'm configing it by hand, once i get it set up right, will put into interfaces03:09
edgarcan anyone help with my woes?03:09
rob_pma3x:  Then you're already set!03:09
Geist|Patrickhow can i store the kmix settings?03:09
JaZy84let me look for one :-/03:09
JaZy84brb03:09
bimberiprodigy: type "df" and see if they're listed03:09
crimsunJaZy84: /usr/share/sounds/03:09
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avanspronsenastronut: maybe that is the problem?03:10
ma3xrob_p: it still blocks the port03:10
dmneobladeJaZy84: Try changing the sound daemon used by your MP3 program to ARTS or ALSA.03:10
hajikiastronut, ive found that i need to use 'iwconfig essid open xxxxxxxxxxx' for the wireless to work for me at work03:10
rob_pma3x:  Once you launch the daemon, it will open the port (port 25 by default) and will listen for connections...03:10
anders__ hey03:10
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bimberibimberi: it usually puts them under the /media directory03:10
hajikiastronut, change essid with key =p03:10
astronuthajiki: i got it working once i disabled wep03:10
ma3xrob_p: postfix is installed and started, and the port is still closed03:10
astronuthajiki: oh, seriously?03:10
bimberis/puts/mounts/03:10
astronutiwconfig wlan0 essid <essid> <key>03:10
astronut?03:10
Xenguy!java03:10
ubotufrom memory, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.03:10
Gundamso can anyone please help/03:10
cafuegoma3x: Are you checking from a remote system?03:10
hajikiastronut, yeah i had the same problem at work. but once i gave key the open parameter it worked (its just a thought, not saying it will work for sure)03:11
Gundamdoh....03:11
avanspronsenastronut: I have never had to do that, just the networking applet or via interfaces03:11
ma3xrob_p: also another applications are supposed to open other ports, but unsuccessful03:11
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ma3xcafuego: I am using a scan service03:11
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cafuegoma3x: sudo netstat -nap | grep :2503:11
hajikiastronut, iwconfig essid "your essid here" && iwconfig key open 123456789003:12
cafuegoma3x: It's not uncommon for ISPs to block at least port 25.03:12
astronuthmm, got ya03:12
rob_pma3x:  Are you sure it's closed?  If the daemon is running, it will be bound to a port (port 25 by default).  If the port is closed, either the daemon is dead, is listening on another port, or you have something interfering (such as a firewall).03:12
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dmneoblade~Question~ Are there any command-line programs for linux that will give me information about an AVI?03:12
astronutnope... i think i had tried that before03:12
hajikidmneoblade, does file do what you want? 'file filename'03:12
ma3xrob_p: I will paste 3 lines Sir, is that ok?03:12
hajikiastronut, :(03:12
cafuegoma3x: Not on the channel, no.03:12
rob_pma3x:  better do it in #flood03:13
cafuego!paste03:13
ubotu[paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text03:13
cafuegoma3x: On #flood or on those websites03:13
JaZy84crimsun wavs play03:13
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crimsunJaZy84: does it play with mpg123?03:13
dmneobladehajiki: Thanks... I always seem to forget about that handy program. ^_^'03:13
hajikinp03:13
JaZy84used totem03:13
ma3xrob_p: I pasted in #flood03:13
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JaZy84need to install mpg12303:14
rob_pma3x:  Ok, so postfix is bound to port 25... this is good!03:14
ma3xrob_p: yes, but still unreachable to the outside world03:14
rob_pma3x:  However, it looks like your external interface isn't...03:14
chortonOkay, I went through everything that said.03:14
chortonI'm guessing the access problem is on the windows box.03:14
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rob_pma3x:  That would be a config file issue...03:15
cafuegoma3x: Are you running some sort of DSL modem or router?03:15
opiatesdfasd03:15
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ma3xcafuego: I am running a modem/router with integrated firewall03:15
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rob_pma3x:  You probably need to edit your main.cf file...03:16
ma3xhowever the necessary ports have been forwarded03:16
cafuegoma3x: Is that set up to 1) Allow port 25 and 2) Forward port 25 to the Linux box?03:16
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Chris_Tuckerhow do i set my samba server to allow guest access?03:16
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rob_pma3x:  look for the directive, "inet_interfaces" in the config file and change it appropriately...03:16
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occyanyone here heard of a usb mouse that is like a mini-joystick?03:17
andrewErr... I think I farked something over.03:17
JaZy84is it called the gravitron?03:17
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opiatecan someone help me get java working?03:17
JaZy84xmms freezes my machien.03:18
sallyHey there. Can someone help me configure wifi on an iBook G3 (dual USB/airport card and express base station)? :)03:18
Mezcrimsun, alsa-base backported fine03:18
JaZy84i had the 4.10 installed then changed the source to hoary.. should i just install off of a hoary cd03:18
rob_pma3x:  What does your /etc/postfix/main.cf file have listed for the, "inet_interfaces" tag?03:18
cafuegosally: normal airport card?03:18
opiatei keep getting java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object03:18
opiate when i run azureus?03:18
crimsunMez: good03:19
sallycafuego: yes, normal airport card. I can "see" the signal, but can't connect.03:19
cafuegosally: Ok, is 'wireless-tools' installed?03:19
ma3xrob_p: Sir net_interfaces = loopback-only03:19
rob_pma3x:  Ahhh, that's it!03:19
Mezcrimsun: and it shouldnt be too hard to fix stuff - gotta do alsa-lib thouh03:19
sallycafuego: I think so. Checking...03:19
pestilencedoes anybody know the best way to turn a stack of png's (or any other image format) into an mpeg?03:19
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arucafuego: (refering to offtopic) AGREED!03:20
pestilence(or any other widely used video format)03:20
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cafuegopopey: I think 'trasncode' can do that.03:20
dmneobladepestilence: I just found a guide to that... lemme browse for it real quick.03:20
avanspronsenopiate: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ is a good start03:20
sallycafuego: yes, wireless-tools installed.03:20
pestilencedmneoblade: great, thanks03:20
aru!guide03:20
ubotuaru: I give up, what is it?03:20
aruerr03:20
JaZy84dmneoblade how can i set something to use alsa instead of art or whatever you where talking about03:20
aru!ubuntuguide03:20
ubotuI guess ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.03:20
rob_pma3x:  Change it to, "inet_interfaces = 127.0.0.1 192.168.0.2" - I think that is the correct syntax... let me check...03:20
pestilencecafuego: you talkin to me?03:20
cafuegosally: Okay. Run 'sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "NName of the wireless network"'03:21
aruavanspronsen: refer to what ubotu just said03:21
cafuegopestilence: yep03:21
cafuegopestilence: 'transcode'03:21
pestilencecafuego: k, i'll check it out.03:21
dmneobladeJaZy84: What media player are you using?03:21
mebaran151could anayone help me setup LVM03:21
ma3xrob_p: ok Sir. Ssh is not opening the port as well03:21
mebaran151or EVMS03:21
cafuegorob_p: inet_interfaces = $myhostname, localhost03:21
cafuegorob_p: ... normally.03:21
JaZy84i have vlc, mpg123, and totem installed all of which don't play mp3.. they will however play wav.. haven't checked anything else.03:22
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rob_pma3x:  Better yet, if you want it to listen on all active interfaces on your PC, then leave it blank.  Oh, and you'll have to reload the postfix daemon to have it pick up the changes.03:22
cafuegosally: if there is a wep key set, 'sudo iwconfig eth1 key s:WepKey'03:22
rob_pcafuego:  Thanks!03:22
cafuegosally: In both cases eth1 might be eth0, depending on which got detected first03:23
JaZy84noatun also03:23
pestilence!backports03:23
ubotuI heard backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted03:23
rob_pma3x:  Now what were you saying about ssh?03:23
JaZy84that will make the speakers start crackling but nothing comoing out03:23
pestilence!thanks03:23
ubotupestilence: de rien03:23
equexanyone been able to run GoogeEarth under Wine ?03:23
dmneobladepestilence: https://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=3456&group_id=5776#ss4.103:23
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HrdwrBoBrob_p: isn't that handled in master.cf?03:23
ma3xrob_p: Sir, port 25 is not yet open03:24
lJlolelwhy does Ubuntu need backports?03:24
pestilencedmneoblade: thanks, i'll take a look03:24
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cafuegolJlolel: it doesn't. Some USERS need it.03:24
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rob_pHrdwrBoB:  I've only ever configured it in main.cf...03:24
dmneobladeJaZy84: AH. You probably broke the mp3 library when you upgraded your kernel.03:24
lJlolelcafuego: forwhat programs?03:24
pestilencelJlolel: good question :)  but there are some packages that aren't included, like w32codecs and transcode that you can only get through backports03:24
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: You can add params in master.cf to bind to a _specific_ ip.03:24
rob_pma3x:  Did you edit the config file and then reload postfix?03:24
ma3xI couldn't leave it blank, I have put 'all' for inet_interfaces03:24
ma3xyes Sir rob_p03:25
sallycafuego: done. I've been through these steps already and can "see" the network, but no dice for connection. it's eth1. reg. ethernet is eth0.03:25
JaZy84well i upgraded the kernel, and then it didn't wan tot boot so i installed 4.10.. then updated the source.list to get to 5.0403:25
JaZy84can this be rebult?03:25
dmneobladepestilence: That guide requires you install "mjpegtools" which is right in Synaptic.03:25
kev0rSeveas: ur asleep yet? You know bots never sleep :)03:25
cafuegosally: Can you run 'sudo dchlient eth1' ?03:25
cafuegosally: Can you run 'sudo dhclient eth1' ?03:25
pestilencedmneoblade: ok.  good.03:25
cafuegosally: that ought to give you an IP03:25
dmneobladeJaZy84: it can... but I'm not sure how, unfortunately. I'm still fairly new to Linux.03:26
sallycafuego: running...03:26
crimsunJaZy84: what did you do?03:26
Chris_Tuckerhow do i set my samba server to allow guest access?03:26
pestilencei guess transcode isn't in backports, either :-/03:26
ma3xI can't seem to connect to the web interface of my modem/router03:26
ma3xOne moment please, I will have to restart it03:26
cafuegosally: If it doesn't give you an address, the wep key is either incorrect or the AP isn't set up to be WEP compatible.03:26
mebaran151anyone here know about lvm03:26
rob_pma3x:  And you're sure it isn't listening on your external interface on port 25?  If not, maybe just try specifying the external interface alone and see if it works.03:26
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HrdwrBoBmebaran151: what do you need to know03:27
cafuegopestilence: it's probably in extras.03:27
pestilencedmneoblade: excellent, that guide has exactly what i wanted.  thanks03:27
JaZy84crimsun, i attempted to upgrade my kernel yesterday on my ibook.. so i could get my activity light going.. i didn't setup right, so the kernel wouldn't boot, i then installed 4.10 (only cd i had) and then used the hoary sources.. for apt-get and ran dist-upgarde.. here i sit..03:27
crimsunJaZy84: uname -r03:27
JaZy84everything plays okay.. except mp3.. when i run xmms comptuer crashes.03:27
cafuegoJaZy84: Why didn't you just boot with the older kernel?03:27
ma3xrob_p: One moment please, I will be right back03:27
pestilencecafuego: wow.  doesn't matter how many additional repositories people make, somebody will always make another :)03:27
dmneobladepestilence: No prob. I actually stumbled on it while looking for something else today.03:27
pestilence!mp303:27
ubotuI guess mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support03:27
JaZy84i didn't save : /03:27
sallycafuego: Results: dhcpdiscover = all 255.255.255.255. Msg: no working leases in persistent database - sleeping.03:28
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JaZy84crimsun 2.6.10.5-powerpc03:28
sallycafuego: AP is okay for wep. OSX partition works with wep key.03:28
cafuegosally: Can you check the Airport Express is set up to allow WEP (as opposed to Airport Password) access?03:28
mebaran151HrdwrBoB: I am not sure how it is supposed to be setup03:28
mebaran151I am doing a clean install03:28
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mebaran151and would like to make my partition scheme a lot more fuild03:28
mebaran151fluid03:28
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mebaran151so LVM seemed perfect03:28
mebaran151but I cant find any docs03:29
HrdwrBoBthe docs are .. wanting03:29
mebaran151am I supposed to use my whole drive as one LVM volume03:29
HrdwrBoBuse the installer03:29
crimsunJaZy84: you probably need at least a new version of ALSA, using 1.0.9b from upstream.03:29
mebaran151and put in parititions or some such03:29
mebaran151the partition snafus03:29
cafuegomebaran151: The partitioner will help you, just make a volume group, thern add partitions to it.03:29
mebaran151ah03:29
HrdwrBoBthe best thing to know is the layers03:29
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mebaran151but I make the whole drive one LVM group at first03:29
sallycafuego: yes, AP is set up to allow wep. wep key authenticates via OSX.03:29
mebaran151right?03:29
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HrdwrBoByes03:29
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cafuegosally: ANything in 'dmesg' ?03:29
mebaran151and then I add what would normally be my parititions to that one big VG03:30
mebaran151when does EVMS come in?03:30
HrdwrBoBmebaran151: you need to make your drive an LVM physcial volume03:30
mebaran151ok03:30
Chris_Tuckerhow do i set my samba server to allow guest access?03:30
HrdwrBoBadd that volume to a VG03:30
Mezcrimsun: you wouldnt believe how much of a PITA this is03:30
mebaran151oh03:30
HrdwrBoBthen make lv's on that03:30
mebaran151a VG03:30
sallycafuego: clarify "dmesg"? sally=newbie. :)03:30
mebaran151do I need a VG if I only have one drive03:30
JaZy84hrm well i need to run to pick up the girlfriend i guess i'll look into problems later : /03:30
mebaran151(this is my new Shuttle) beautiful work03:30
JaZy84thanks guys03:30
cafuegosally: Type 'dmesg' at a shell... it will give you the kernel log buffer03:30
crimsunMez: actually I _know_ how much of a PITA it is. I tried it months ago - and I warned you.03:31
occycrimsun, hey bud... Have you ever heard of an "IBM think pad like" USB input device?03:31
rob_pma3x:  Also try separating the values with a comma as cafuego suggested.  I think that is probably the correct way to specify multiple interfaces, etc.03:31
Mezcrimsun, It's not that bad actually I think I've got everything sorted03:31
occycrimsun, those little nipple thingies...03:31
occyheh03:31
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crimsunoccy: hey. I have no idea what you're referring to, unfortunately.03:31
occyahhh ok np03:31
chortonThe red dot?03:32
Razor-Xoccy: I have03:32
Razor-XUSB touch pads03:32
Mezcrimsun: there we go, backported alsa-libs alsa-base and alsa-utils03:32
JaZy84the nob03:32
JaZy84for the ibm03:32
JaZy84the eraser pointer03:32
Mezcrimsun: nothing else needed03:32
cafuegoyou mean "clit" yes?03:32
crimsunthe scrollpoint?03:32
sallycafuego: Odd. AP in and out of range/connected/disconnected. Also "unknown information frame" and "no IPv6 routers present"03:32
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crimsunMez: have fun03:33
psychonateDId he just say... ?03:33
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mebaran151psychonate: I think he did.....03:33
cafuegosally: Hmm. You within range of the ap I presume? (Just ignore the ipv6 thing)03:33
psychonaterofl03:33
codecaineim building debian boxes on one lan then deploying them to another lan.  when deployed to new lan (ip scheme) changes and then authentication is SLOW.  for instance, ssh has a delay before password comes up, smtp banner is also delayed etc... any reason for this?  if i put the debian box back on original ip scheme its normal again.  thx03:33
Mezcrimsun: how do you mean03:33
codecainehey all03:33
sallycafuego: yup, definitely within range.03:33
crimsunMez: nothing more, nothing less03:34
codecaineim building debian boxes on one lan then deploying them to another lan.  when deployed to new lan (ip scheme) changes and then authentication is SLOW.  for instance, ssh has a delay before password comes up, smtp banner is also delayed etc... any reason for this?  if i put the debian box back on original ip scheme its normal again.  thx03:34
cafuegosally: 'sudo iwpriv scanning' - what's that do?03:34
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pestilencecodecaine: reverse dns not working properly?03:34
codecainehmmm03:35
sallycafuego: 'scanning no private ioctls'03:35
mebaran151codecaine: the problem is03:35
codecainepestilence, you're right, i have the WRONG primary DNS03:35
mebaran151I think it has to do dns when it works03:35
FatManWalkingI want to use gtkpod.  I need to load libid3tag.  I downloaded libid3tag0_0.15.1b-7_i386.deb,  but now I don't know how to install it.  Help.03:35
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codecainemebaran151, thank you also03:35
Mezalsa-utils conflicts with udev?03:35
opiatecan anyone help me with azureus?03:35
Mezbrb03:35
Mezreboot03:35
cafuegosally: No chance you typo3d the key?03:35
Razor-XFatManWalking: do you use a package manager?03:35
codecainei remember now, when i setup the boxes on my lan i don't change the primary dns AGH!03:36
pestilencecodecaine: glad i could help03:36
codecainethe delay is becuase it tries primary then finally gets by with secondary03:36
codecainepestilence, agh just needed a quick spark, thank you!03:36
pestilencenp03:36
sallycafuego: do you mean mistyped the key? No, I've tried several times.03:36
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FatManWalkingI have synaptic.03:37
cafuegosally: How many characters is the key?03:37
occytrackpoint is the name of it.03:37
occyheh03:37
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Razor-XFatManWalking: use that03:37
sallycafuego: 10 chars.03:37
Razor-Xor, simple03:37
Razor-X``sudo aptitude install gtkpod''03:37
cafuegooccy: Look mate, just call it what it is, a clit :-)03:37
occyI think it'd be cool as heck to have a USB trackpoint that you could plug in on the side of your laptop.03:37
asdahi how to limit user proses what command for do tha03:37
occycafuego, hahahaha03:37
f_newtonyes synaptic is one of the great things about debian based distros03:37
occycafuego, that's nipple actually03:37
cafuegosally: 10 hex or 10 alphanumeric?03:37
bimberiFatManWalking: gtkpod is available in the ubuntu repositories - or are you installing a later version?03:37
cafuegooccy: Not in melbourne :-)03:37
sallycafuego: 10 hex03:38
cafuegosally: Did you add it as s:TenhexDigits in iwconfig?03:38
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sallycafuego: yes03:38
FatManWalkingI really don't know how to use synaptic.  I searched for gtkpod in synaptic, and clicked it for install.  That is when it gave me the dependency error.  I down loaded the package, and I don't know how to get it into synaptic.03:39
cafuegosally: Okay, s: means it's ascii. Do 'sudo iwconfig eth1 key TenHexDigits'03:39
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cafuegosally: And then the dhclient thing again03:39
f_newtonsynaptic gave you a dependency error?03:39
_frankFatManWalking: what error did you get?03:39
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raDeonhi03:39
f_newtonand I am going to refill my rasberry tea03:39
asda!ping me03:39
ubotuasda: I don't know, could you explain it?03:40
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FatManWalkinggtkpod-aac:03:40
FatManWalking Depends: libid3tag0 (>=0.15.0b) but it is not installable03:40
sallycafuego: done.03:40
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sallycafuego: I tried w/o 's:' before as well. Seems to detect the signal, even gives signal strength, but can't connect.03:41
Razor-Xdoes VLC play H.264 files?03:41
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cafuegosally: Not that it _should_ make a difference, but can you unload the airport driver,. then reload it and try again?03:42
bimberiFatManWalking: i can't see gtkpod-aac in my synaptic.  Do you have extra repositories?03:42
raDeonhow do i use sudo03:43
Mezcrimsun: shouldnt have to touch hotplug03:43
Mezbut udev :D03:43
nalioth!sudo03:43
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo03:43
raDeonthanks03:43
crimsunMez: ah, it has changed03:43
sallycafuego: erm, "unload/reload airport driver"? can you walk me thru?03:43
cafuegosally: 'sudo rmmod airport; sudo modprobe airport'03:43
Mezcrimsun - what has?03:43
opiateanyone know how to change the ports on gnome bit torrent?03:44
crimsunMez: in the past, discover and hotplug had to be tweaked, too.03:44
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FatManWalkingI added this one (deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted).  I think I got it from a LinuxQuestions.org forum.03:44
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cafuegoahaa!03:45
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sallycafuego: done w/ same result: dhcpdiscover = all 255.255.255.255. Msg: no working leases in persistent database - sleeping.03:46
FatManWalkingI took SuSE for a test run, and when I downloaded an RPM and clicked on it YaST would open and install the program.  Does it work like that with Debian/Ubuntu?03:46
chortonIt can.03:47
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chortonOr you can use the built in installer program to find the files in need.03:47
asdahi how to limit user proses what command for do tha03:47
chortonapt-get install <nameofprog> installs programs without having to go find them.03:48
mebaran151_can I convert my existing partitioned setup to LVM easily?03:48
mebaran151_or must it begin that way03:48
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mebaran151_I cant find any decent docs on LVM203:49
cafuegoubotu: info firefox backports03:49
Chris_Tuckerhow do i set my samba server to allow guest access?03:49
asda?03:50
asdaanyone there03:50
asda!ping me03:50
ubotuI don't know, asda03:50
mebaran151_arg03:51
cafuegotypical03:51
cafuegosally: Then I don't know :-(03:51
sallycafuego: no worries, I've tried a few things and it's all been a little odd... :) thanks for your help. I'm going to reset the base station etc and go though these steps again.03:52
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cafuegoif al else fails, a hammer...03:53
MagicFabmebaran: if you have at least twice the space yes03:53
cafuegosally: the base station *IS* running dhcp right?03:53
MagicFabcreate your LVM in free space03:53
MagicFabtransfer old stuff into LVM03:53
MagicFabthen grow your LVM to occupy the old space03:53
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raDeonhow do i play mp3 files03:54
mebaran151_MagicFab: not what I was hoping for03:54
LokeDKWhy is fluxbox so slow? I've even compiled it my self instead of the package03:55
mebaran151_it cant agressively cache its own data?03:55
benplaut!w32codecs03:55
ubotuw32codecs is probably a set of codecs needed to play many common audio and video formats, such as WMV. You can install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org).03:55
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mebaran151_!03:55
benplautwhat the?!03:55
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benplautwha...?!03:55
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benplautyou're a mod, eh?03:56
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mebaran151_the LVM in the installer is confusing03:56
mebaran151_it cryptically fails to give me a subpartition03:56
cafuegobenplaut: No, just run the bot. I'm fiddling with the repository search code03:56
benplautaahhh03:56
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mebaran151_or let me add any VG's03:56
MagicFabmebaran: what do you not understand03:56
cafuegospecifically, iw ant it to search extras :-)03:56
benplautgood idea :)03:57
MagicFabheh03:57
cafuego!info firefox security03:57
mebaran151_!XFS03:57
ubotumebaran151_: Bugger all, i dunno03:57
benplauthmm03:57
benplautcan you make it accept wildcards? (*)03:57
cafuego!info mozilla-firefox security03:57
MagicFabmeb:03:57
ubotumozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1 (hoary-security), Packaged size: 8594 kB, Installed size: 24124 kB03:57
MagicFabusually you have to setup free space to be LVM partitions03:57
cafuegobenplaut: /msg ubotu find <substring>03:57
MagicFabthen the LVM tool can setup groups and volumes03:58
benplautahh03:58
cafuegobenplaut: Then request info on what it finds, if you need it.03:58
mebaran151_If I symlink out of a chroot environment03:58
mebaran151_what happens03:58
MagicFabhave you ever created / grown an LVM before ? I had to experiement a little before understanding03:58
asdahi help me plsssss03:58
mebaran151_MagicFab: I am running the wizard in the installer03:59
Mezcrimsun, I got it to all build and install03:59
cafuegoasda: We can't unless you aska  question.03:59
mebaran151_I made one VG03:59
Mezcrimsun, now for the acid test: does it work03:59
mebaran151_with my harddisk inside it03:59
asdahi how to limit user proses what command for do tha03:59
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benplautproses?03:59
asdacafuego do you no tha03:59
MagicFabmebaran151_: AFAIK there is no wizard for LVM in the install (hoary)03:59
mebaran151_that hardisk contained 1 paritition of 160 gigs that formed that one thing03:59
asdayes prosess03:59
asdahow to limit user proses03:59
cafuegoasda: ulimit03:59
mebaran151_MagicFab: using a Breezy Colony 2 CD03:59
concept10!info cowbell03:59
mebaran151_I was intrigued by the boot msg LVM03:59
asdaulimit ?03:59
cafuegoasda: You should be able to configure those via pam_limits.04:00
MagicFabmebaran151_: ah! sorry, havent been there yet04:00
asdau mean i mus intall ulimit ?04:00
cafuegoulimit is installed already04:00
mebaran151_HrdwrBoB: might know04:00
Zodiacyo my DVD player is still skipping even with the DMA turned on04:00
ZodiacAnyone know what it could be?04:00
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asdaand i conf that04:00
asda?04:00
asdaokay i'll try04:00
MagicFabhow can I find out if the irght sound driver for my card is loaded ?04:00
mebaran151_lsmod04:01
HrdwrBoBhsay wghat?04:01
MagicFabaplay -l reports:04:01
HrdwrBoBI think LVM is in the install04:01
MagicFabcard 0: SI7012 [SiS SI7012] , device 0: Intel ICH [SiS SI7012] 04:01
MagicFab  Subdevices: 1/104:01
MagicFab  Subdevice #0: subdevice #004:01
asdacafuego how to configure that ?04:01
raDeoni dont understand how to install the w32codecs04:01
MagicFablsmod reports several drivers, but the question is.. are those the right ones for my card04:01
XIIIis there a japanese support channel for ubuntu?04:02
benplaut!backports04:02
ubotubackports is, like, .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted04:02
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HaroldAfternoon everyone04:02
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raDeonit doesn't tell me how to install04:02
benplautraDeon: add that string to your sources.list04:02
benplaut deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted04:02
benplautand then apt-get install w32codecs04:02
mebaran151_HrdwrBoB: it gives me an error that it cant add my LV to my VG04:03
uboyohow would I make an image of the last 2GB of a disk?04:03
Mezcrimsun, you there?04:03
cafuegoasda: Check google for 'pam_limits' configuration.04:03
XIIIanyone for help here?04:03
HrdwrBoBmebaran151_: you don't add an lv to a VG04:03
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HrdwrBoByou add a PV to an LG04:03
mebaran151_well let me go through it04:03
HrdwrBoBer VG04:03
HrdwrBoBPV < VG < LV04:03
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mebaran151_I made one primary parition for my one harddisk04:04
HrdwrBoBphysical volumes make up volume groups which ahve logical volumes on them04:04
phixionlo all, can anyone tell me, is "menu" meant to be installed by default in ubuntu?04:04
mebaran151_btw, is this feature working in the Breezy installer04:04
asdaanyone help me hoe to use ulimit ???04:04
mebaran151_what is menu?04:04
phixiondunno :o04:05
uboyo+-04:05
phixionjust had to fix a broken package04:05
phixionand it wanted to install menu04:05
XIIIi need to know how to setup the pc to use hiragana and kanji not only katakana to type in japanese??!!!04:05
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franlopezhello all... i'm having some troubles starting the JACK system (audio stuff)... has anyone been using it?04:06
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Chris_Tuckerhow do i set my samba server to allow guest access??!??!?!04:06
] BreliC[franlopez, what is the problem?04:06
mebaran151_HrdwrBoB: I was trying to add an LV to my VG04:06
XIII??????04:07
XIIIy do all ignore that??04:07
franlopezbrelic: when i run the prgram (i'm using the gui version), i get this message04:07
mebaran151_lwhich is simply one and it tells me that it cryptically cant do it, without any reason at all04:07
mebaran151_and the error logs say nothing04:07
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nickrudcuz we don't have a clue?04:07
] BreliC[franlopez, i have not really used JACK with Ubuntu, but have been with AGNULA (which is based on Ubuntu).  It's an audio distro with realtime kernel patch already in and all the audio apps installed and configured04:07
benplautXIII: maybe it means that nobody knows an answer04:07
franlopez"Could not open ALSA sequenceras a client04:07
asdaguys04:08
franlopezis agnula based on ubunt?04:08
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asdahelp me04:08
] BreliC[franlopez, you could check out www.agnula.org04:08
] BreliC[franlopez, yes, based on ubuntu04:08
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benplautX111: try #ubuntu-jp04:08
franlopezso i can install it without unistalling my ubuntu?04:08
XIIIlol04:09
] BreliC[franlopez, make sure you try DeMuDi in the download section of AGNULA.. that's the one based on Debian Ubuntu04:09
XIIIjust me there04:09
] BreliC[franlopez, i'm not sure about that..04:09
XIIIbenplaut, where can i find languages package to download and install??04:09
raDeonis it just me04:09
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raDeonor does the saudi arabian guy04:09
raDeonwho died04:09
benplautX111: try in Synaptic04:09
franlopezyes, i've checked that one out a few minutes ago... it says there are two ways of installing, and one is with apt get.......04:09
raDeonlook like he's 50 and not 8304:10
benplaut!repositories04:10
ubotusomebody said repositories was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos04:10
[thomas] !ulimit04:10
ubotu[thomas] : Are you smoking crack?04:10
XIIIbenplaut, what is synaptic?04:10
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benplaut!synaptic04:10
ubotusynaptic is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto04:10
[thomas] !limit04:10
ubotu[thomas] : Are you smoking crack?04:10
benplautread that...04:10
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] BreliC[franlopez, ahh, then i guess you can.  i imagine it will patch the kernel as well?04:10
[thomas] benplaut can help dude04:10
XIIIok04:10
benplaut!info ulimit04:10
franlopezthat was what i wasn't sure enough...04:10
franlopezmmmhhh... i guess i'll try that04:10
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eriscoseveas.... i know you can help me on this one for sure =0 but if anyone else can too thats great04:11
benplaut!info ulimit04:11
ma3xrob_p: are you still there Sir?04:11
[thomas] no info for that04:11
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[thomas] how command to use ulimit ?04:11
rob_pma3x:  Yup!04:11
eriscowhen i registered on www.dot.tk for my site, i pointed the domain towards my gateway04:11
franlopezok brelic, i'll check that out now, thanks04:11
benplaut!find ulimit04:11
eriscowell it doesn't work.... lol i know bad to say04:11
[thomas] i'm on ubuntuforums now04:11
[thomas] and not found04:11
ma3xthank god!04:11
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eriscoon firefox when i try to hit the gateway ip, it says the connection is refused04:12
rob_pma3x:  What's up?04:12
rob_pma3x:04:12
levanderCD and DVD drives are considered optical drives right?04:12
] BreliC[franlopez, no prob.  i like it (though i still don't trust linux for my pro audio work.. the only reason i still keep a windows partition)04:12
ma3xrob_p: Sir, I think it works with the mail now, only thing is that it doesn't deliver04:12
rob_pma3x:  Deliver to where?04:12
[thomas] Sir ?04:12
ma3xto the local mailbox04:12
ma3xit says Remote host said: 554 : Relay access denied04:13
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ma3xand the IP does not like recipient.04:13
rob_pma3x:  Yes, that is because you need to make sure that your postfix is setup to relay for your local machine (and any other "trusted" sources).04:14
benplautsir?!04:14
ma3xhow do I make sure of that Sir?04:14
[thomas] Sir benplaut can help me sir04:14
ka234lol04:14
rob_palright guys...04:14
[thomas] !info ulimit04:15
inCoive just downloaded "kvirc-3.2.0.tar.bz" and i need to know ow to go about installing it, im new to linnux so i usually use synaptic, but the latest version of kvirc wasnt listed so i downloaded the latest version from their site04:15
benplauttry !find ulimit04:15
inCocan anyone help me please??04:15
[thomas] inco try apt-get install kvirc04:15
ma3xrob_p: and also ssh is not opening port 22, although forwarded04:15
[thomas] !find ulimit04:15
ma3xmaybe i didn't install ssh04:15
[thomas] inCo u can use sypnatic04:16
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[thomas] and remove *.tar.bz04:16
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chris_isn't the gnome-terminal supposed to close after 'exit'? mine does not close04:16
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ma3xdo I need to install openssh, or ssh server?04:16
JoshRA56Is there anyway to install ubuntu from the internet04:16
kram3rhey all04:16
JoshRAmy cdrom drive is not working all that good04:17
inCosynaptic comes with version 204:17
kram3ranyone had luck with s3 suspend and ubuntu (or linux for that matter)04:17
inCoi dont know how to install files i have downlo9aded manually04:17
[thomas] use the last version Sir04:17
rob_pma3x:  It's in the config file... look for directives, "mydestination", "mynetworks", and "smtpd_recipient_restrictions" and make sure that they are setup properly...04:17
[thomas] don't download maually04:17
[thomas] i try that and suck with tha04:17
calckram3r: it apparently works on some machines ;)04:17
eriscoalright i was a little unclear about that04:18
kram3rI have had great luck with suspend to disk, just suspend to ram always breaks04:18
eriscoi went through again and found some more specific questions04:18
rob_pma3x:  As far as ssh, check your sshd config file and make sure it's sane...04:18
[thomas] ubotu Package 'ulimit' does not exist.04:18
ubotu[thomas] : I haven't a clue04:18
[thomas] lol04:18
eriscowhen i type in apache2 in my terminal, it complains saying the server does not know its qualified domain name04:18
kev0rAnyone here using the hilightwin.pl script in IRssi?04:18
kram3rcalc: yeah, I was hoping to sell my powerbook on ebay and use my dell with ubuntu04:18
eriscoso it uses my computer's ip instead04:18
ma3xrob_p: I just seen Sir, it's not installed04:18
ma3xwhat version do you preffer openssh or ssh?04:19
kram3rcalc: it works fine, but power management is difficult withouth suspend to ram04:19
calc[thomas] : ulimit is part of the shell04:19
eriscohow can i configure a qualified domain name for apache2?04:19
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eriscoin the conf file?04:19
rob_pma3x:  Well, that would explain it now wouldn't it!!!04:19
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eriscoand if so... i am having a hard time finding it04:19
ma3xrob_p: absolutely Sir!04:19
calckram3r: aiui it works with some non broken laptops, but getting it working in general is going to take a lot of work04:19
[thomas] calc do u now use that ?04:19
[thomas] i dunno04:19
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eriscodoes anyone get what i am saying?04:20
[thomas] can teach me sir04:20
inCohow do i install files downloaded via web browser then?04:20
calcesp since video card makers suck04:20
nJesshow do i install ndiswrapper into ubuntu 64?04:20
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cafuegonJess: Same way as on 32bit. Do you have 64bit Windows drivers?04:20
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eriscohmmmmm i guess no one is catching onto my problem04:20
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calc[thomas] : type help ulimit at console screen04:21
nJesscafuego, its not working04:21
eriscooh shoot, i am not in the right channel04:21
nJessi have the drivers04:21
JoshRAHello is there away to install ubuntu i do not have a working cdrom drive. My old linux install is not working.04:21
eriscosorry about that04:21
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nJessi can't get utils and whatnot04:21
JoshRANetwork Install04:21
inCoor better still how do i install kvirc version 3.2.0? im a linux newcomer04:21
cafuegonJess: Are the drivers 64bit?04:21
zanyhey04:21
calc[thomas] : what are you wanting to use ulimit for by the way?04:21
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parabolizenJess: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowtoUseNdiswrapperOnAmd64Ubuntu04:21
nJesscafuego, i cannot even get that far04:21
zanywhat's the package to install sun-j2re please ?04:21
nJessthe drivers are04:21
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nJessparabolize, thanks04:21
zanyi can't find it :(04:21
[thomas] thanks very much sir calc04:22
[thomas] okay brb04:22
raDeonLinux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux04:22
calcnJess: to use ndiswrapper on amd64 port you must have a 64bit windows driver for the nic04:22
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cafuegoHoly shit04:23
Zodiachey guys, I cant get my DMA to stay on for /dev/hdc04:23
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ZodiacAny idears?04:23
zanyZodiac, what's your mobo?04:23
cafuegoZodiac: Then either the controller, the cable or the drive is probbaly going to die.04:23
JoshRAAny ideas?04:23
Zodiachmmm04:23
cptaloo04:23
ZodiacWell04:23
zanykt7?04:23
ZodiacI can turn it on with the terminal04:23
Zodiacand everything works great04:24
nJesscalc, i have them04:24
Zodiacbut the code in the DMA dma = on isnt working04:24
zanyZodiac, what's your motherboard ?04:24
Zodiacummm04:24
Zodiachold on a sec04:24
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zanyk04:24
zanywhat's the package to install sun-j2re please ?04:24
ZodiacIt is an IBM T40 laptop04:24
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zanyZodiac, sorry that does not help04:25
Zodiacok let me see04:25
JoshRAHello I am trying to find away to install ubuntu from the internet because my cdrom drive does not work. Does anyone know away:?04:25
calczany: its not in ubuntu since its not legal to distribute04:25
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zanyj2re ? no one ?04:25
cafuegozany: Dopwnload the .bin (not rpm) from Sun and create your own using the 'make-jpkg' command frok 'java-package'.04:25
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JoshRAHello I am trying to find away to install ubuntu from the internet because my cdrom drive does not work. Does anyone know away:?04:26
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zanycafuego, thanks04:26
HaroldHello again all.04:26
Zodiacdamn I have no idea04:27
HaroldJoshRA: I've heard of a way you can do that...04:27
ZodiacApparently Ubuntu doesnt know either04:27
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a3ahow do i mount the hd in ubuntu live?04:27
aruJoshRA: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29358.html04:27
HaroldJoshRA: You can install debian and then change the sources.list to install Ubuntu.04:27
cafuegoJoshRA: you'll need a tftp server and some images you can use with it.04:27
aruJoshRA: I did a google search for Ubuntu net install and thats what it gave me04:28
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rob_pJoshRA:  found this from a google search... maybe it'll help as well:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25269.html04:28
Zodiaczany, why would the motherboard make a differnce?04:28
Cry_Ubuntu_MacHey, can anyone help me network hoary and windows xp?04:28
zanybecause i just had the same problem04:28
zanyuntil i changed the mobo this morning04:28
zanynow everything is fine04:28
Zodiachmmm04:29
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Zodiaceven with the code added to hdparm?04:29
zanyi had hdd dma problems04:29
ma3xSir rob_p : May I ask you if postfix reads the configuration of usr/share/postfix/main.cf.dist as well, or I have to enter all options from there to /etc/postfix/main.cf ?04:29
QMario Is there a "Package Manager" for SUSE?04:29
ZodiacI don't seem to have any once it is enabled04:29
lamont ma3x main.cf.dist is the defaults for all the values.04:29
aruQMario: try #suse04:29
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JoshRArob_p: since i can not use a cdrom04:30
ma3xlamont: I am sorry I didn't get that, is it the default file for all the values?04:30
NefarousCry_Ubuntu_Mac: what do you need?04:30
JoshRAi can not install debian04:30
zany:oP04:30
lamontma3x: postconf -d04:30
lamontthe that's how main.cf.dist is created.04:30
aruJoshRA: try the link I pasted04:30
JoshRAi do not haev a tftp server04:30
JoshRAor a linux server04:30
JoshRAi can use04:30
lamontmain.cf is only the non-default values.  main.cf.dist is there for your reading pleasure, and nothing more04:30
HaroldJoshRA: Sorry, JoshRA.  That's the only way I know how to do it.04:30
Cry_Ubuntu_MacOnce more, anyone know how to use samba to create a local network with windows?04:31
aruJoshRA: did you try the link I pasted04:31
aru!samba04:31
ubotumethinks samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba04:31
ZodiacDoes anybody else have any ideas as to why my DMA will not turn on by default?04:31
Hoxzer:D I found out that you have to have some free space in HDD so Ubuntu can start04:31
JoshRAaru: trhat is what i am talking about04:31
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aruCry_Ubuntu_Mac: try the link ubotu said04:31
aruJoshRA: are you sure?04:31
Cry_Ubuntu_Macubotu rocks. thank you04:31
ubotuI haven't a clue, Cry_Ubuntu_Mac04:31
JoshRA22:27:45 < aru> JoshRA: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29358.html04:31
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nJessokay, i have the correct drivers04:32
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aruCry_Ubuntu_Mac: did you order a ubuntu cd from ubuntu.com?04:32
aruerr04:32
nJessbut when i do modprobe ndiswrapper it stops responding04:32
rob_pJoshRA:  It's hard to live without a CDROM drive these days... maybe you should consider investing in one!  They can be had for just a few bucks if you look around...04:32
zanycafuego, i got the .bin - now i have to get the package "java-common" ? that's right ?04:32
JoshRArob_p: mine had just borke04:32
NefarousAre there any hot keys to toggle between virtual desktops? On KDE it's Alt-Tab, does ubuntu/gnome have anything similar?04:32
aruJoshRA: did you try ordering a cd from ubuntu04:32
JoshRAyes but my cdrom drive is broken so that is no help tp me04:33
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aruJoshRA: did you try taking the soda cans to the store?04:33
JoshRAto busy with work :/04:33
aruoh so you have a job... wait until payday and get a cdr :)04:34
JoshRA2 weeks04:34
JoshRA>.<04:34
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JoshRAi can not stand being in windows that long04:34
DaveyJoshRA, got a floppy drive?04:34
JaZy84i think i'm just going to reinstall but this time use a 5.04 to fix my mp3 playback problem :(04:34
JoshRAi will throw the computer out the window04:34
Cry_Ubuntu_Macyeah, ubotu, aru that was it. thanks.04:34
JoshRAyes Davey i do04:34
Daveyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2935804:34
Daveymight be of interest ;)04:34
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aruCry_Ubuntu_Mac: awesome, you can try !anything with that bot and almost always get a match04:35
SquareGuyNefarous, look under System/Preferences/Keyboard Shortcuts.  you can set it up however you like04:35
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DaveyJoshRA, oh, looks like someone laready gave you that link04:35
JoshRAyes04:36
NefarousSquareGuy: thanks I'm already there, it hit me after I typed in the question ...04:36
JoshRAfor some reason04:36
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JoshRAthe fl;oppy isnot reasoning04:36
JhonenGuys I am having trouble, I installed Ubuntu and now I can't find Microsoft Explorer04:36
SquareGuyNefarous, np04:36
cafuegoaru/Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: And if not, there's also the !listkeys <string> or !listvals <string> commands for searching factoids by keyword.04:36
Chris_Tuckerhow do i set my samba server to allow guest access?? THAT is access without a login prompt on the remote computer???????????????04:36
DaveyChris_Tucker, you only need one ? in the english language04:36
naliothJhonen: that is a serious problem04:36
Jhonen:(04:36
JhonenI can't find my games either04:37
Chris_TuckerDavey it seems that doesnt work anymore in here04:37
equexwhere is a good place to put commands you want run right before the desktop is loaded ?04:37
aruJhonen: what are you trying to do?04:37
DaveyChris_Tucker, and try editing the /etc/samba/smb.conf04:37
cafuegoJhonen: Did you tell the installer to use the entire disk?04:37
equexi seem to have no rc.boot ir rc.local04:37
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JhonenI wanted to install linux because I heard it was good04:37
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Jhonennow I can't find microsoft internet explorer04:37
naliothequex: system > preferences > session mangler04:37
JhonenIt has my book marks04:37
cafuegoJhonen: Are you running Linux at the moment?04:37
aruJhonen: it is, but did you try Applications > Internet > Mozilla Firefox?04:37
JhonenNo04:38
Chris_TuckerDavey that doesnt seem to contain what i need. the access line for user-specific line is commented out04:38
JhonenThis is my friends computer04:38
t3rrordoes anyone know how to set my nic to wake on lan?04:38
DaveyChris_Tucker, GIYF04:38
t3rrori want to be able to ssh into my router and then wake this machine from there04:38
aruJhonen: Firefox is a web browser which kicks IEs arse, try that04:38
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cafuegoJhonen: Did you tell the installer to overwrite the entire disk on your own computer?04:38
JhonenBut where did all my software go!?04:38
aruJhonen: :)04:38
JhonenI told it to use the whole thing04:38
aukJhonen, it is impossible to completely remove IE form windwos...w/o seriously messing up the system04:38
cafuegoJhonen: Then it wiped EVERYTHING.04:38
Chris_TuckerDavey GIYF?04:38
DaveyChris_Tucker, Google Is Your Friend04:39
JhonenWIPED!? It didn't say it would wipe out all the software!?04:39
equexnalioth: alright, trying to find that :D04:39
t3rrorholy shit....04:39
Chris_TuckerDavey, i am aware of this04:39
cafuegoJhonen: What did you think would happen then?04:39
aukJhonen: you told it to use the whole drive?04:39
t3rrordid this guy just format his hd and not know it04:39
JhonenI thought it would look like the screen shots04:39
Jhonenand i'd just close it when I was done04:39
cafuegot3rror: yeah04:39
t3rrorhah04:39
t3rrorthat is entertainment04:39
rob_pJhonen:  Your PC has been assimilated (sp?)...04:39
t3rrori hope you didn't have anything important on there04:39
Nefarouseither that or he's just having phun with us04:40
t3rrorall the pron and mp3's are gone04:40
JhonenXD04:40
raDeonwhat's the command to see load04:40
nJesshey, are there any known issues with IPN2220 chipset wireless cards in 64bit os?04:40
JhonenI wouldn't have fun04:40
cafuegoJhonen: No, it creates a partition on disk and installs to that. It normally lives side by side with windows, but if you wold it to use the entire disk, it wiped windows.04:40
DaveyraDeon, top04:40
aukJhonen: if you told it to wip[e the drive, you didn't think it would wipe the drive?!?04:40
JhonenReally?04:40
raDeonwhat's the other one04:40
DaveyJhonen, and every single file on the disk04:40
raDeonthat just shows you the load averages04:40
t3rroranything on the wake on lan settings?04:40
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windexraDeon, w04:40
DaveyraDeon, uptime?04:40
raDeonah yeah uptime04:40
t3rrorits all toast jhonen04:40
JhonenI thought wiping would clean it, I didnt think it was the same as delete04:40
raDeonand what is "w"04:40
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cafuegonalioth: Sheesh, haven't you had a shower? ;-)04:41
Nefarousnow I know he's screwing with us04:41
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CarlFKJhonen - (I am assuming you are telling the truth) It did warn you, and ask you at least one more time.04:41
naliothJhonen: your windows has been cleansed04:41
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auknalioth: rofl04:41
aukJhonen: it did clean th edrive...of windows04:41
arueither he was really dumb, or just really dumb04:41
cafuegowindex: What did you do to Jhonens windows?04:41
SquareGuyI think the default install should wipe windows without asking ;)04:42
t3rroryou should have used knoppix04:42
t3rrorlol04:42
windexcafuego, right, blame me! it was.. TROGDOR!04:42
rob_pJhonen:  I'd say it did a great job of "cleaning" your PC!04:42
aukJhonen: it sanitized your hard drive04:42
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aukno more FAT :D04:42
cafuegowindex: How can I not blame you? ;-)04:42
Nefaroushe's gone, no more wiping discussion, he was screwing with us anyhow ...04:42
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windexcafuego, watch it, or i will build cpanbuntu, a version of ubuntu that updates via cpan and not apt!04:42
cafuegoANd if not, it's probably too much to hope ha had a backup.04:43
aruNefarous: I almost felt sorry for the guy for a minute04:43
rob_pyeah... talk about trimmin' the FAT... he, he, he04:43
Nefarouswindex: now that is funny!04:43
cafuegowindex: As lithp script under EmacsOS?04:43
aukNefarious: but of course04:43
windexcafuego, buaha.04:43
SquareGuyspwaking of wiping though what is some good hardware to actually wipe a drive, i'm gonna have to send my laptop in for service soon.04:43
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windexcafuego, instead of X you'll get a emacs login window! it'll be schweet!04:43
SquareGuyi meant software duh04:43
naliothSquareGuy: shred04:43
cafuegoSquareGuy: /dev/hammer04:43
aukNefarious: if i thought he was serious, i woudl have been nicer ;D04:43
SquareGuynalioth, cafuego thx04:44
Nefarous:)04:44
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cafuegoSquareGuy: After my suggestion you'll need a new drive, though.04:44
aruauk: I actually gave the guy the menu links to open Firefox... maybe I'm the dumb one :)04:44
SquareGuycafuego, well that wouldnt be any good then04:44
naliothSquareGuy: cafuego's method will definitely secure your data04:44
linlinis there any way i can mount a bin/cue as a cdrom drive or hard drive?04:44
equexnalioth: are you talking about the session manager in the control centre ?04:45
cafuegoaru: You can't automagically assume anyonbe asking a dumb question is a troll..04:45
naliothSquareGuy: the "shred" method might leave something that 4 or 5 superputers would need a few years to pull up04:45
windexcafuego, emabuntucpan will rule the world!04:45
arucafuego: but I can assume you are!!! :)04:45
aukaru: i do not see how anyone that stupid would be abl eto get his comp to boot from an install cd in the first place...the installer warns you like, five times04:45
naliothequex: system > preferences > session04:45
cafuegolinlin: No, you must convert it to iso first. use bchunk04:45
windexSquareGuy, just drill a hole through the disk platter and call it done.04:45
windexSquareGuy, anyone who wants to work around that deserves your data.04:45
linlinbchunk will convert it to iso?04:45
aukcafuego: *04:45
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cafuegoaru: I CAN'T GET CLICK-N-RUN TO INSTALL ANYTHING!!!?04:46
aruauk: he did say he was using a friends computer, so maybe he booted in, deleted everything... ah fsck it04:46
naliothcafuego: "a" dumb question, no, but a whole series of the most stupid lines of reasoning?04:46
aruheh04:46
cafuegonalioth: You'd be surprised...04:46
equexnalioth: heh i forgot i was in #ubuntu.. i  am using kde04:46
aruif I had click-n-run, I wouldn't need to work out anymore04:46
SquareGuywindex, hehe nah i will need to use the drive again04:46
aukequex: buuuuuurrrnn at the STAKE!04:46
naliothcafuego: the "i cant find IE" gave it away (classic trolling line)04:46
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naliothequex: i'm not familiar with KDE and its startup mechanisms04:47
aukaru: lol04:47
cafuegonalioth: I was thinking he meant he couldn't boot windows04:47
aruauk: glad someone caught that04:47
cafuegonalioth: ... coz he wiped it.04:47
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skalpelhow can i play wma files in ubuntu?04:47
arucafuego: glad to see I wasn't the only one fooled04:47
aru!wma04:47
ubotuaru: I don't know, could you explain it?04:47
aru!mp304:47
ubotuI guess mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support04:47
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aukaru: yeah, but it was a pretty lame joke :)04:47
aruheh04:47
NefarousI'm trying to build Qt4, what package contains X11/Xlib.h ?04:47
cafuego!w32codecs04:47
ubotufrom memory, w32codecs is a set of codecs needed to play many common audio and video formats, such as WMV. You can install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org).04:47
nalioth!info w32codecs04:47
paradizelosthey all.  how do i get mount.cifs support???04:47
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aruauk: I wasn't sure how to spell excersize... (sp)04:48
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skalpelno more codecs.04:48
skalpel=)04:48
cafuego!find mount.cifs04:48
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'mount.cifs' (3 shown): (/sbin/mount.cifs) in otherosfs/smbfs ;; (/usr/share/samba/swat/help/mount.cifs.8.html) in universe/net/swat ;; (/usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/mount.cifs.8.html) in doc/samba-doc.04:48
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windexskalpel, i beleive some builds of VLC make this possible. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/04:48
cafuegoparadizelost: install 'smbfs'04:48
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Madpilotnalioth: see one "I can't find IE on Linux" that might not be a troll: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=9431804:49
cafuego!dict excercise04:49
ubotucould not find definition for excercise04:49
cafuegoubotu: you lie04:49
ubotucafuego: Wish i knew04:49
linlincafuego, gow do i use this bchunk?04:49
cafuegolinlin: man bchunk04:49
linlinhow**04:49
rob_pSquareGuy:  Is it you that was asking about wiping a hard disk?04:50
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t3rrorno one here is interested in letting me in on the wake on lan features in ubuntu?04:50
cafuegoSquareGuy: You could also just plonk a password on the bootloader (or remove the HD)04:50
windext3rror, wake on lan is typically a bios feature.04:50
SquareGuyrob_p, yeah i was just reading about shred and it doesnt look like it will do what i need04:50
ma3xcafuego: can you please help me with postfix?04:50
t3rrorwindex, what if the nic isn't onboard the motherboard04:51
levanderIf you write a multi-session disc, can you read all the sessions?  Or, just the last session written?04:51
rob_pSquareGuy:  Check this out:  http://dban.sourceforge.net/  It's a bootable cd that you can use to wipe all data from the drive.  I think it has an NSA-level wiping scheme...04:51
NefarousSquareGuy: how serious of a wipe do you want?  You can simply use dd to write 0's, or you can do government standard 7 pass wipes ...04:51
t3rrorit is an add-in pci04:51
rob_pSquareGuy:  I've used it before... it's pretty good!04:51
lamontma3x: what are you trying to do with postfix?04:51
cafuegoNext time, don't put goatpr0n on it to begin with ;-)04:51
skalpelif i have to instance of synaptic running but i still get this error: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)04:52
skalpelE: Unable to lock the list directory04:52
skalpel when trying to use apt-get what does it mean?04:52
cafuegoskalpel: It needs to run as root.04:52
ma3xlamont: I am trying to send myself email from my Yahoo to my local04:52
cafuegoskalpel: 'sudo synaptic'04:52
ma3xRemote host said: 554 <ma3x@ma3x.mine.nu>: Relay access denied04:52
skalpelok, thank you04:52
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ma3xand I get this Giving up on 194.158.241.198.04:53
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ma3x194.158.241.198 does not like recipient.04:53
SquareGuyrob_p, thx ill look at it Nefarous i didnt see an option for entire drive, just files and it said for individual files i would need a non-journaled file system and i use ext304:53
windext3rror, unless the board/nic support it, ubuntu, to my knowledge, has no way to boot the computer, as it is not executing anything if the machine is powered off.04:53
lamontma3x: and you have inet_interfaces = all (or commented out) in /etc/postfix/main.cf?04:53
ma3xlamont: I have them commented04:53
lamontand what do you have for mydestination?04:53
skalpelcan someoen explain to me how to find broken packages in synaptic?04:53
ma3xmydestination = localhost.localdomain, localhost.localdomain, localhost04:53
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ZartanI found good instruction getting Logitech QuickCam Express running in Ubuntu, but I haven't found any english language page. So I haven't webcam runnig yet. Could someone help me or translate one of help pages? :)04:54
windext3rror, if you are talking about exiting apci sleep on lan activity, that may be possible, but i've never done it.04:54
lamontadd the hostname, postfix reload, and all should be well04:54
ma3xlamont: can i just put localhost?04:54
ma3xthat won't resolve ?04:54
jasmuzZartan: if you find one in spanish i would translate it for ya04:54
lamontma3x: well, if you can send email to localhost and have it arrive at your machine, then it'll work.  but I don't think yahoo will route localhost to your machine04:54
Zartanjasmuz :) I try04:54
ma3xlamont: what should i put at relayhost ?04:55
ma3xalso the hostname?04:55
NefarousSquareGuy: everything is a file in Linux, dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda, but you obviously can't do it to the hard drive while the OS is on it :)  Either use a boot CD, or make it a secondary disk04:55
lamontif the destination domain name is not in mydestination, then postfix assumes that it must relay for that domain04:55
SquareGuyNefarous, i got ya now ithought you were talking about shred04:55
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rob_pma3x:  You need to study a little more about the proper requirements for setting up a mailserver that participates on a public network.  It really should be on a static IP with proper forward and reverse DNS entries for a domain that you control.  Then, you should take the time to make sure it will only deliver mail from local/trusted hosts and that it will only receive external mail for which it considers itself the final de04:55
rob_pstination.04:55
auk!/dev/hammer04:55
ubotuI don't know, auk04:55
lamontma3x: if your ISP requires that you use a relay host, you'll want that hostname in [] .  If you can deliver mail directly, then you probably want to leave relayhost blank04:55
auk:(04:56
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arucafuego: how is it you get ubotu to message someone a link?04:57
jantan21hellow all04:57
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cralosthi everyone04:57
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haon99what is this ubuntu04:57
Madpilotaur "tell <foo> about <bar>"04:57
naliotharu:  you say !tell <whomever> about <factoid>04:57
rob_pma3x:  What is your purpose for running your own MTA other than local mail delivery (which can be done on local loopback)?04:57
haon99what makes it better than other linux distros?04:57
aruok04:58
naliotharu: or you /msg ubotu tell <whomever> about <factoid>04:58
aruawesome, thanks04:58
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aruI've found its easier to type !foo than to actually help people04:58
Madpilot!ubotu04:59
ubotuit has been said that ubotu is uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu!04:59
windexhaon99, it's about what you like to use. ubuntu provides an easy to use, debian based gnome desktop, that looks pretty good and works well regardless of your experience level.04:59
jantan21how domain for ubuntu04:59
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haon99I see04:59
aru!tell aru about mp304:59
aruok thats easy enough04:59
aukhehe, ubotu's got an ego, i see05:00
aruhaon99: are you a windows user?05:00
ma3xrob_p: I can't get it working Sir, it says localhost.localdomain loops back to myself05:01
ma3xbut it should loop to itself, right?05:01
auk!linux05:01
uboturumour has it, linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux05:01
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amarcuccihey, sorry if it seems like a stupid thing to ask, what do i have to add to fstab to mount another ntfs hard drive?05:03
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aruamarcucci: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html <- good fstab info05:03
Madpilotauk: you can do "/msg ubotu <foo>" if you want to chat with the bot at length05:03
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lJlolelhello05:03
rob_pma3x:  You didn't answer my question...  Properly setting up an MTA takes a little more than just "tinkering" with configs until you get it to work.  Blindly putting an MTA on the 'Net can cause both you and your ISP some trouble!05:03
lJloleljust installed ubuntu, Screen Resolution doesn't open05:04
aukMadpilot: we are allowed to caht w/ him at length?05:04
arulJlolel: system > preferences > screen resolution?05:04
amarcuccithanks, I'll check it out05:04
Madpilotauk: sure. it's useful if you've got a bunch of questions, or are writing new blurbs for ubotu05:04
lJlolelright, i click it, i get the waiting icon in the bar, but then it closes and no window opens05:05
ma3xI want only local mail transfer agent05:05
aruweird05:05
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aukhmm, i though the powers that be didn't liek people taxing bots05:05
cafuegoauk: I've already paid GST on ubotu05:05
rob_pma3x:  Then why open it up to the 'Net in the first place?05:06
ma3xrob_p: do you know if kmail can check web mail from hotmail?05:06
Madpilotcafuego: :)05:06
ma3xrob_p: to be able to send??05:06
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rob_pma3x:  Not sure.  I don't use Hotmail and don't know what capabilities they offer.  Most certainely they won't let you connect to their SMTP service for sending unless they require credentials, etc.05:07
lJlolelmy screen is currently 640x480 :(05:07
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f_newtonhotmail is horrible05:08
Madpilot!resolution05:08
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:08
f_newtongmail is good05:08
six2onehas anyone tried breezy lately? does x die after apt?05:08
lJlolelthanks!05:08
cafuegosix2one: yes05:08
aruf_newton: some of us are stuck with hotmail05:08
cafuego!info xutils breezy05:08
ubotuxutils: (X Window System utility programs), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-42 (breezy), Packaged size: 60 kB, Installed size: 156 kB05:08
lJloleland do you suggest xfce?05:08
cafuegoaru: gmail05:08
rob_pma3x:  If you want you MTA to be able to send e-mail out to the 'Net, configure it to relay via your ISP's smarthost.05:08
Amaranthsix2one: Supposedly right now an upgrade from hoary to breezy will somewhat work.05:08
lJlolelresolution05:08
lJlolelwhat does !resolution mean?05:09
esac_I am running linux on an old laptop (p2 366). On it I have apache. I tried downloading a file locally to another system, and it copied ok. But afterwards, my linux box is freezing, "top" shows a lot of time (81%) being spent in "wa" under CPU times and I don't know what that is05:09
Amaranthsix2one: I mean X will somewhat work.05:09
arucafuego: I have MSN as my isp...05:09
aukaru: i feel sorry for you05:09
cafuegoAmaranth: xutils -42 is the broken one.05:09
esac_there also seems to be a lot of time being spent in apache205:09
aruauk: I love you too05:09
cafuegoaru: So?05:09
windexaru: if you honestly do not have a gmail account by now... :P05:09
Amaranthcafuego: xutils is a metapackage05:09
benplautMUAHAHAHAHA!05:09
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whitefanghello05:09
benplauti finally struck a deal that works!05:09
Amaranthsix2one: but you have to install a bunch of extra stuff too05:09
gigaclonanyone want a gmail?05:09
arulJlolel: follow that link that ubotu posted05:09
auklJoloel: prepend a message with "!" and ubotu will respond05:09
gigaclon:)05:09
ma3xrob_p: how do i discover my isp's smarthost?05:09
Amaranthsix2one: xrdb, xauth, xprop, and some more05:09
whitefangi just installed ubuntu, and i don't remember it giving me the option to set a root password05:09
benplautgigaclon: we all have them05:09
lJlolel!resolution05:09
ubotuI guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:09
lJloleloh i see, thanks05:09
arulike that :)05:10
gigaclon:)05:10
Madpilot!sudo05:10
ubotuit has been said that sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:10
benplaut^^read that05:10
Madpilotwhitefang: see ubotu's post05:10
auk!tell lJlolel about resolution05:10
cafuegoAmaranth: My version -33 isn't (and IT contains the tools needed) was there a busted depend?05:10
six2onehoary cant update properly for me anymore and i cant download the packages i need anymore, cause thet fail05:10
Amaranthcafuego: err, what?05:10
rob_pma3x:  What (sub) domain name did they provide for their SMTP service?  That's what you'd probably use...05:10
lJlolelauk, heh thats neat05:10
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Amaranthcafuego: you're missing xprop, xrdb, xauth, these are all seperated out, xutils is supposed to depend on them05:11
arulJlolel: it works with almost every question you have :)05:11
six2oneso i was hopeful that breezy made progress to where its useable05:11
aukaru: not true05:11
rob_pma3x:  ...something like mail.yourisp.com or similar...05:11
cafuegoAmaranth: xutils 6.8.2-33 on amd64 is what I had to install to get the tools back (worked fine)05:11
benplauti said that i wouldn't re-install windows onto their computer (4 years without a reinstall... ouch) unless they let me have 10gb for Ubuntu, and they have to promise to give it some time...05:11
benplautsuccess!05:11
Amaranthcafuego: i dunno if -42 does or not but it is supposed to05:11
Amaranthcafuego: reread what i just said05:11
whitefangsweet, thanks.05:11
aruauk: well once he gets his resolution set he probably wants to play an mp305:11
cafuego!depedns xutils breezy05:11
ubotucafuego: I give up, what is it?05:11
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aukaru, lol05:11
aru:)05:11
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cafuegoAmaranth: I understand what you just said.05:12
Amaranthcafuego: reread it again05:12
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Amaranthcafuego: Don't tell me X is broken, I'm looking at it working.05:12
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cafuegoAmaranth: I fixed it by downgrading to a non-metapackage version.05:12
ma3xrob_p: I didn't find any option 'smarthost' in the config file, what is the exact option name Sir?05:12
aruwhy sir?05:12
hmrochahello05:12
hmrochax is still broken?05:12
hmrocha:(05:12
rob_pma3x:  look for "relayhost" or similar...05:12
cafuegoAmaranth: The depends are not fixed as of the current list on ubotu.05:12
mebaran151Amaranth: how do you fix X05:13
ma3xWhy, because I call Sir rob_p Sir05:13
hmrochai was just thinking about installing breezy colony-205:13
Amaranthcafuego: reread what I said05:13
ma3xbecause he is a Sir05:13
Amaranthcafuego: I said they might not be yet.05:13
mebaran151hmrocha: it works05:13
knowledge_ok, I've done this a million times and can't seem to remember for the life of me...how do I add something to modprobe?05:13
Amaranthcafuego: And I mentioned some of the things you need to install.05:13
aruma3x: good enough for me05:13
mebaran151but upgrade really carefully05:13
cafuegoAmaranth: Just conforming it :-)05:13
windexma3x, he's been knighted?05:13
cafuegos/o/i/05:13
rob_phe, he!05:13
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Amaranthmebaran151: You need to install xrdb, xauth, xprop, xinit, and maybe a couple of other packages05:13
Zartanjasmuz: I found only french :/ http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=54071. This thing may be good get to HowTo - page in future05:13
skalpelcan someone tell me why i get a small blip coming from the file i want to play before th file actually starts to play in rhythmbox?05:13
ma3xrob_p: Thank you, and have a good night Sir!05:13
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Amaranthmebaran151: make sure xkeyboard-config is installed properly (try reinstalling it)05:14
rob_pThat's ok... we're all sirs in my book!05:14
rob_pma3x:  Ok... take care!05:14
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hmrochamebaran151, i'll install breezy colony-2 from the cd, in another partition, just to be safe :)05:14
whitefanghmmm05:14
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whitefangweird05:14
MrI have just installed Ubuntu and cannot find my other harddrive?05:14
Amaranthknowledge_: You mean make a module load on boot up?05:14
Amaranthknowledge_: /etc/modules05:14
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gigaclon!mount05:14
ubotuwell, mount is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:14
aruMr: was it ntfs?05:14
knowledge_Amaranth, Mann!...that's what it is...05:14
amarcucciwhat should I do if after mounting a hard drive i get a notice saying that I don't have the necessary permission to view its contents?05:14
thrice`Mr, dmesg | grep hd05:14
knowledge_I sweat I think I'm slow sometimes05:14
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thrice`find it yourself :)05:14
knowledge_swear**05:14
mebaran151amarucci, you have to add a option to the mount05:15
gigaclon!tell Mr about mount05:15
mebaran151users is the normal one05:15
mebaran151I believe05:15
mebaran151it is either user or users05:15
amarcucciy added auto,user05:15
amarcucciI*05:15
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mebaran151I think you need users05:15
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mebaran151user will mount with root as the user05:15
mulhollandjgood evening, I am trying to get mp3 player software working on my system - I can listen to .ogg files with music player but I can't get any sound from amorak, noatun, or juk - any ideas?05:15
gigaclonMrTeatime, did you read wiki page05:16
Madpilotubotu tell mulhollandj about mp305:16
chibifsHey, I know this is a longshot, but does anyone know of a full-screen window manager (Other than matchbox)? Or maybe something that allows you to run specific programs as panels?05:16
MrTeatimeWorking on it now05:17
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chibifsI'm trying to build a unique interface for a mobile device, but with little effort :P05:17
windexchibifs, i'd like to suggest you go to school, get an MBA, and then hire lackeys to do the real work? :D05:18
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Zartanjasmuz: Understand you french language?05:19
chibifswindex - No point, these technologies already exist in matchbox and the swallow application for the gnome panel.05:19
poningruwhats a good way to monitor your cpu temp? I want something in the panel or something05:19
windexk. :)05:19
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chibifsI'm just looking to see if there are other options.05:19
cafuegoponingru: ln-sensors is the *only* way.05:19
windexponingru, i don't think the kernel modules required to do motherboard sensor polling are actually in the mainstream kernel yet?05:19
cafuegowindex: They have been for ages05:20
windexoh.05:20
windexok. :)05:20
Madpilotlm-sensors works - with xsensors or ksensors for front-end05:20
poningruok05:20
poningruwill that go into the notification area?05:20
Madpilotponingru: the front-end will.05:20
draftneed to install 2.6.12 kernel on hoary for sound card, what's the best way to do that ?05:20
windexcafuego, last time i had to use it, was on debian, the debian install package wouldn't work with 2.6, and the 2.6 kernel tree wasn't compatible with new lm-sensors from source.05:20
equexone more thing (only slightly kde related this time). i have a problem with my dvdrom. it used to work properly (i installed the ubuntu dvd with it too), now suddenly it cant read any DVD roms, though it CAN read normal CD's. It detects that i insert a DVD too, though i get "Malformed URL" from Konquerer if i try to access it. any idea ?05:20
poningruhehe05:21
poningruthanks guys05:21
cafuegowindex: [13:11]   + windex stabs cafuego for having a cooler machine than he does.  <-- what's that all about?05:21
windexcafuego, you're on amd64 :(05:21
cafuegowindex: That's coz lm-sensors is IN the 2.6 kernel.05:22
poningruequex: have you tried opening it with another dvd player?05:22
poningrulike vlc or somethin?05:22
cafuegowindex: nothing cooler about amd6405:22
chibifsFor the most part, I'm trying to build something like centericq, but system-wide (for a PDA). Have something going like XFCE vs KDE/GNOME for the PDA Linux market :P05:22
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windexcafuego, tempature wise, no. bragging rights? yes.05:22
chibifsEveryone uses opie or gpe! :O05:22
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skalpelcan someone tell me why i get a small blip coming from the file i want to play before th file actually starts to play in rhythmbox?05:22
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equexponingru: yes it fails no matter what i try. even from console into /media/cdrom005:22
CarlFKis there a "how to setup nfs" page somewhere?05:23
poningruhmm05:23
equexthis is just DVD roms with data files on them05:23
poningru!nfs05:23
ubotuNo idea, poningru05:23
equexnot movies05:23
poningruoh05:23
poningruic05:23
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CarlFKrats.05:23
ianahi room05:23
CarlFKhi iana05:23
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raDeonquestion05:24
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iananewby here, want to know how to check what services is running in ubuntu>05:24
raDeoni installed w32codecs05:24
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cafuegowindex: Nah05:24
raDeonbut Music Player says no plugin is installed to handle MP3 file05:24
cafuegowindex: Just sensible; it was cheaper than building an intel box or an AthlonXP box.05:24
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ianaanyone>05:25
iana?05:25
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cafuegoCarlFK: Install an NFS server (kernel or user) and configure /etc/exports (man exports)05:25
pestilenceiana: ps aux05:25
skalpelwhat does it mean if you get the error 'nautilus could not show //:burner in nautilus when burning a cd?05:25
knowledge_i'm an idiot05:25
skalpelor burner://05:26
cafuego!knowledge is an idiot05:26
ubotucafuego: okay05:26
mulhollandjWhen I try to run amarok I get an error that it can't initialize the sound driver because a resource is busy.  How can I fix it?05:26
ianapestilence? sorry, iam kinda new to linux or ubuntu05:26
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Madpilotubotu forget knowledge05:26
ubotui forgot knowledge, Madpilot05:26
ianawhere i put that command?05:26
pestilenceiana: if you open up a terminal and type "ps aux" (no quotes), you will get a list of everything that is running on your machine05:26
ianaokay, ill try, thanks05:27
cafuego!lock knowledge05:27
ubotulocking factoid knowledge, cafuego05:27
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skalpelwhat does it mean if you get the error 'nautilus could not show burn:// in nautilus when burning a cd?05:27
Madpilotiana: type "ps aux |less" and it won't be a huge scrolling mess. type "q" to get out of less05:27
windexcafuego va Madpilot, which ego will win! on the next as the #ubuntu turns...05:27
cafuegowindex: I have root access on the ubotu machine; place your bets now..05:28
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Madpilotwindex: cafuego: ha ha. just because cafuego can lock stuff in... ;)05:28
cefx:D05:28
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windexcafuego, maybe Madpilot has 2-3 spare ds3's and a ping -f command. then who wins! :D05:28
knowledge_anyone know how to take care of -- Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System'05:29
Madpilotwindex: was that English?05:29
knowledge_?05:29
cafuegowindex: I expect that won't make too much difference over people leeching ISos as it is.05:29
windexMadpilot, nope.05:29
windexcafuego, right.05:29
ianapestilence: well, i did what youve said, it reply more then 20 services, well actually i need to know if theres no such a key logger software in this public pc? how to check that? well in windoze, theres msconfig05:29
cafuegoWell, my hosting provider might send his ISP an angry email ;-)05:29
CarlFKafter I stop shorewall, my box doesn't return pings - is this expected?05:30
ReleaseXmy laptop has a combination trackstick/touchpad, it seems to stutter occasionally, anyone have any experience with that?05:30
Madpilotcafuego: the ISP account isn't in my name or connected to my email address... ;)05:30
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windexReleaseX, you might need to tweak your mouse sensitivity settings. outside of that, not sure.05:30
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windexReleaseX, it's under System -> Prefrences -> Mouse -> Motion (Tab)05:31
cefxWow, ubuntu install is pretty cool.05:31
Madpilotcafuego: paranoid!05:31
cefxi'm installing amd64:)05:31
poningru?05:31
poningrunm05:31
cafuegoMadpilot: Ha!05:31
ReleaseXwindex, yeah i already tried that, i think there must be something else, thanks though05:31
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windexcafuego, i connect to the internet by satellite. thunderstorms == ddos attacks.05:32
cafuegowindex: ouch05:32
cafuegowindex: can you firewall the weather?05:32
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raDeoni installed w32codecs05:32
cefxI can't believe how much Ubuntu holds your hand.  Wow.05:32
raDeonbut Music Player says no plugin is installed to handle MP3 file05:32
raDeonhow do i fix05:32
arbiris back finally05:32
PurpleMotiondeath sucks05:32
knowledge_anyone know?05:32
cefxYea, death does suck.05:33
cefxI just got back from The Island.05:33
skalpelwhat does it mean if you get the error 'nautilus could not show burn:// in nautilus when burning a cd?05:33
windexcafuego, sure, just gotta built a realllllly big pringles can for my antenna. about 10 miles high. or so. ought to do it.05:33
arbirafter all death is only the beginning05:33
cafuegowindex: neat, a smokestack cantenna05:33
arbiri just installed Kubuntu... . how can i switch my desktop to kde from gnome ?05:33
PurpleMotionarbir:  doesnt make it any easier to deal with, now does it05:33
cefxarbir -- there's a file somewhere in your home dir that deals with that05:34
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cefxI'm not familiar with it tho05:34
arbirPurpleMotion, just kiddin :-) i dont even know in what context you were talking about death ?05:34
windexcafuego, i'm going to have a heart attack from choloestrol and the people who own stock in duct tape are going to make a fortune, BUT I'LL DO IT.05:34
PurpleMotionarbir:  a good friend of mine hung himself last night05:34
arbirwukk tge good old switchdesk work ?05:34
arbirohoh sorry PurpleMotion05:34
PurpleMotionyeah, me too05:34
arbiri take back my words05:34
cafuegowindex: if you have cholesterol issues you'll get gall stones first (they also hurt FAR more)05:34
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PurpleMotionit's okay, you didnt say anything wrong05:34
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windexcafuego, i don't have a gall bladder. got ganked when i was 18 due to genetics (not high cholesterol). :)05:35
cefxWow, how much does the base Ubuntu install include?05:35
cafuegowindex: <heh>05:35
PurpleMotionabout two gigs05:35
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mebaranI got X working in breezy05:35
cefxfuck05:35
mebaranbut I had to change a symlink05:35
mebaranno errors so far and mkfontdir looks like it works05:35
cefxMy body no longer handles digestion very well.05:35
cefx:)05:35
PurpleMotionmy roommate also has no gall bladder05:36
arbirhow can i switch my desktop to kde from gnome ? i dnot even see any x related file in my home dir05:36
cafuegocefx: if that too much, you can do a 'server' install and add stuff like X later.05:36
cefx:/05:36
Nomad_1Does anyone know how to boot from a CD even though GRUB is a boot nazi? (I've looked in GRUB's help file and didn't see anything that looked like it could help me.05:36
mebaranPurpleMotion, what does a gallbladder do anyway05:36
cefxcafuego: oh no, not too much :) does it have good ntfs-read support?05:36
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cafuegoarbir: install KDE, chen choose KDE in the login screen menu.05:36
PurpleMotionarbir: open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:36
mebaranNomad_1, you cant use grub to do that05:36
cefxI've got a 250gb external NTFS drive that i need to read stuff from05:36
cafuegocefx: Yeah, just normal kenrel ntfs access05:36
mebaranbecause you need to have cdrom drivers or bios specific extensions05:36
PurpleMotionmebaran:  ya got me, but i know my roommate is pretty fucked up due to his lack of one05:36
Nomad_1mebaran: I don't want to. GRUB just kind of takes over05:36
arbirPurpleMotion, i have installed Kubuntu desktop05:36
arbirnow i want to switch to kde05:36
mebaranneither which is in grub05:36
Amaranthmebaran: you had to change a symlink?05:37
mebaranNomad_1, you got to do it in the bios05:37
mebaranAmaranth, yeah05:37
arbirwhere is the login screen menu cafuego05:37
jasoncohencefx, you just have to add an entry in fstab05:37
PurpleMotionarbir:  open aterminal, and type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm05:37
cefxCool.05:37
PurpleMotionarbir:  when prompted, select kdm05:37
Amaranthmebaran: what?05:37
cefxjasoncohen: Yeah :) thanks.05:37
arbirah let me see05:37
windexmebaran, it holds bile produced in the liver until you eat, at which point the bile helps break down the fat. if you don't have a gall bladder, your liver is constantly producing bile. and it has interesting digestional system results.05:37
mebaranall I had to do is relink X with /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg05:37
PurpleMotionarbir:  when you get to the login screen, click session and choose kde05:37
cefxIn slackware I added /dev/sda1 with oumask=02205:37
jasoncohencef, first "sudo fdisk -l" to find the partition05:37
Nomad_1mebaran: I've set the bios to look at the cd-rom drive first but it still skipped the disk and went to GRUB.05:37
mebaranwindex, and to think I took college biology05:37
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mebaranNomad_1, that means it doesnt think it can boot from the disk05:37
cefxYea.05:38
mebaranor it thinks the boot disk is bad05:38
cefxOr look in dmesg, jason ;)05:38
jasoncohencef, "/dev/sda1  /mnt/windows   ntfs  defaults 0 0"05:38
mebaranAmaranth, did I have to do that?05:38
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mebaranchange that symlink05:38
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mebaranit seemed sort of hacky05:38
cefxno05:38
Amaranthmebaran: what did you change?05:38
Nomad_1I don't see why it wouldn't. The disk is Debian's net install disk.05:38
cefxI'm definately -not- doing defaults ;D05:38
arbirdpkg-reconfigure kdm05:38
arbir * Reloading K Display Manager configuration...                          [fail] 05:38
arbirinvoke-rc.d: initscript kdm, action "reload" failed.05:38
whitefanghow do i mount my windows partition?05:38
jasoncohencefx, ok, then use whatever options you want05:38
cefxI use oumask=022 or ro05:38
PurpleMotionhahah05:38
mebaranI linked /etc/X11/X with /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg05:38
ZartanI tried follow instructions of http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/#Installation . Where can I found V4L module for Ubuntu?05:38
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PurpleMotionholdon, ill get the file you need to manually edit05:38
jasoncohencefx, i use "users,umask=022"05:39
arbiroh :-(05:39
whitefangerrr, my windows partition is ntfs, how can i mount it?05:39
cefxHm.05:39
cefxInteresting.05:39
arbirarbir will be back after a pee... too much Kilkenney inside him05:39
PurpleMotionarbir:  sudp pico /etc/X11/default-display-manager05:39
jasmuzwhitefang: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2999605:39
PurpleMotionarbir:  change whats in it to kde05:39
cefx2.6.10 kernel?05:39
jasmuzupss05:39
cefxInteresting.05:39
PurpleMotionarbir: then reboot, and at the kdm login screen, click session, and choose kde05:39
jasoncohencefx, yes- i'm in hoary05:39
jasmuzwhitefang: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:39
cefxIs the 2.6.10 kernel in the amd64 5.04 disc good or will i have to upgrade it?05:39
levanderAnybody can tell me how to use mkisofs graft points?05:39
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jasoncohencefx, so, what's the problem?05:39
PurpleMotionerr sudo05:39
cefxNothing.05:39
jasoncohencefx, what do you mean by "good"? I have had no problems with it05:40
cefxjasoncohen: I just hope I don't have the same problems in ubuntu X as i did in slackware X.05:40
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jasoncohencefx, you shouldn't- xorg is pretty good at auto-detecting hardware and ubuntu is known for its excellent hardware support05:40
JoshRAhey who ever helped me05:40
JoshRAit worsk05:40
JoshRAthe floppy thing i am installing x and firefox ow05:40
JoshRA:D:D05:40
PurpleMotionthe floppy thing?05:41
arbiris back05:41
PurpleMotionyou been sneakin peeks, eh?05:41
Zartanhow can I install v4l for ubuntu?05:41
arbirPurpleMotion, let6 me check that file05:41
cefxjasoncohen: In slackware I had problems in the 2.6.12.3 kernel05:41
cefxwhile in X my keyboard enter key stopped responding05:41
pudlandhello all05:41
jasmuzZartan: downloading via Synaptic the packages for v4l05:41
cefxIt acted as if caps lock was always on when it wasn't05:42
windexZartan, i think v4l is in synaptic. if its not in the base packages, try enabling universe and check again?05:42
JoshRADavey: thanks you to aru05:42
cefxand my left mouse button behaved with each click as a right click05:42
arbirit shows /usr/bin/kdm @ PurpleMotion05:42
Amaranthcefx: that sounds like an X issues, not a kernel issue05:42
cafuegoWow. Breezy firefox is spectacularly busted :-)05:42
Amaranthcafuego: not really05:42
arbirPurpleMotion, let me reboot now05:42
PurpleMotionarbir, okay. logout of gnome, and at the login screen, go to session and choose kde05:42
Ohpoocafuego, what you mean by busted?05:42
PurpleMotionno05:42
PurpleMotiondont reboot05:42
cafuegoAmaranth: Reliably does poo when i try to log in to a site.05:42
jasoncohencefx, weird...05:42
PurpleMotionno need05:42
mebaranAmaranth, you didnt need to change the sym05:42
mebaran?05:42
jasoncohencefx, slackware uses 2.6.12?05:42
Zartanthank you :) jazmuz and windex. Do I modprobe v4l then?05:42
cefxI upgraded to it, jason05:42
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arbirok arbir is gone05:43
cefxAmaranth: So far the AMD64 install is going good :)05:43
cefxAll those pretty packages installing05:43
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windexcafuego, for some reason firefox on hoary dosen't like to print to my printer. it either causes my printer to hardlock while processing the postscript, or does not print within page boundaries. every other piece of software works great. :D05:43
PurpleMotionYet another satisfied customer. Thank you, drive through05:43
cefxWow, I'm impressed.05:43
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cefxIt even sets up the packages05:43
Amaranthmebaran: nope05:43
cefxIs there a plugin/codec for viewing .wmv files?05:44
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cefxand christ on a stick, Xine is terrible!05:44
cafuegowindex: firefox has issues with non-latest postscript interpreters. Whoever at FF amde that decision is a damn retard.05:44
jasmuzZartan: i think its not necesary...05:44
Amaranthmebaran: but you probably had an older version of X from breezy installed, daniels said right now it only cleanly upgrades from hoary05:44
auk!mono05:44
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, mono is " http://www.apacheworld.org/modmono/ Repo CLOSED  Please see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto or BreakMyUbuntu" hm05:44
jasoncohencefx, yes05:44
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Amaranth!restricted05:44
uboturestricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats05:44
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Gorthguys how did ubuntu install and everything05:44
jasoncohencefx, you'll want w32codecs from hoary-extras05:44
Amaranthcefx: read that05:44
windexcafuego, yep. i'm going to try to tftp upgrade the printer. it's network enabled and doing software upgrades is nontrivial.05:44
Gorthbut not put GCC on there05:44
jasoncohen!tell cefx about multimedia05:45
cafuegowindex: My print server has no update available.05:45
AmaranthGorth: gcc is a security risk05:45
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levanderNobody knows how to use mkisofs graft points?05:45
cafuegoGorth: gcc is not installed by default; most suers have no need for it.05:45
Zartanmy fast mouse finger :P05:45
windexGorth, neither ubuntu nor debian default to having gcc, use aptitude to install the packages 'gcc g++ bison manpages-dev glibc-dev autoconf automake', and you should get enough of a development enviroment to be useful.05:45
cafuegowindex: 'build-essential'05:46
windexthat too.05:46
Gorth:O05:46
windexbut i didn't know that existed.05:46
windexso go figure.05:46
jasoncohenGorth, just "sudo apt-get install build-essential"05:46
cafuegos/glibc-dev/libc6-dev/05:46
Amaranth!info build-essential05:46
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 10.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB05:46
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Amaranththat's a lame description05:46
windexdoes build essential include manpages-dev and glibc-dev?05:46
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windexerr, glibc-doc?05:46
jasoncohencefx, use totem with totem-xine and w32codecs and you'll have support for nearly every codec.05:46
windexsome of us want manpages for pthread_create, you know.05:47
whitefangto run a program off a win2k partition that requires you to be able to write to a file in its directory, what do i need to do?05:47
cafuego!depends build-essential05:47
ubotubuild-essential: depends on libc6-dev | libc-dev, gcc (>= 3:3.3), g++ (>= 3:3.3), make, dpkg-dev (>= 1.4.1.19)05:47
Zartanjasmuz: Could you repeat your answer. I click mouse and close tab without meanless05:47
jasoncohencefx, xine is nice for DVDs but for most other videos you'll probably prefer to use totem05:47
Gorththanks guys05:47
cefxokay, awesome, thanks jason :)05:47
whitefanglag?05:47
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PurpleMotionjasoncohen:  i still cant get mp4 video to work... both these movies play PERFECTLY in windows, and completely HARF in linux.. everything from a segfault to completely locking up the a/v subsystems05:47
windexcafuego, if that's all it throws in there i consider my answer to be superior :)05:47
cefxToo bad they don't have a #biohelp chan.  I don't feel good. ;(05:48
cafuegowindex: Your answer erros with glibc-dev: no such package05:48
windexcafuego, i corrected that i think.05:48
mebarandoes the Ubuntu Kernel have fb support05:48
windexoh, right. not for that line.05:48
windexi mean glibc-doc.05:48
cafuegowindex: I had already pasted it - ow, there was a hidden rm -rf!05:48
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Amaranthmebaran: i think the ubuntu kernel has every module :P05:48
mebaranEVERY05:48
windexfor some reason manpages-dev does not actually contain the glibc manpages.05:48
mebaranSINGLE05:48
PurpleMotionyou guys are nerds.05:48
mebaranMODULE05:48
windexPurpleMotion, ITS WHAT WE DO, MAN.05:49
PurpleMotionheh, right on05:49
cafuegoPurpleMotion: check the hostmask :-P05:49
PurpleMotioni'm gonna smoke some pot05:49
mebaranEVEN THE CRAZY CRAPPY ONES THAT I HAVE NEVER SEEN USED EVER05:49
Gorthman guys05:49
windexim going to go smoke tobacco. because i hate my lungs. die, lungs, die.05:49
PurpleMotionhahahahha05:49
Gorthubuntu's screwy compared to the other distros05:49
Gorthno joke05:49
PurpleMotionnice one cafuego05:49
cafuegomebaran: Your capslock is on05:49
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mebarancafeugo05:49
mebaranwhoops05:49
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, what's mp4? a google search is showing info on divx/xvid which is supported by w32codecs05:49
mebaranjust noticed05:49
mebaransorry fellows05:49
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, do you mean mpeg-4?05:49
Zartanjasmuz: could you tell me how I load v4l-module? I clicked mouse and close tab. I didn't want do it :)05:50
mebaranjasoncohen, lavc decodes them faster05:50
jasoncohenwhich would include divx, xvid and several other formats05:50
mebaranlook for ffmpeg05:50
mebaranit does the job very well for all those variant05:50
mebarans05:50
raDeoni installed w32codecs05:50
raDeonbut Music Player says no plugin is installed to handle MP3 file05:50
raDeonwhat do i do05:50
raDeonso i can play mp305:50
jasoncohenraDeon, "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad"05:50
raDeonspeak english well i do not05:50
PurpleMotionjasoncohen:  i mean it has the extension .mp4 and it does not play in anything.05:50
raDeonthank you jasoncohen05:50
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PurpleMotionexcept windows05:51
PurpleMotionin fact05:51
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sfvtPurpleMotion: I don't believe totem-gstreamer (the default) supports that codec. But I have placed files with the .mp4 extension via totem-xine05:51
PurpleMotionin windows, it's a two hour movie that's 265mb and it looks and sounds PERFECT05:51
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, mplayer supports mp4...from my quick search on google05:51
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jasoncohenPurpleMotion, are you using totem-xine with w32codecs installed?05:52
PurpleMotionjasoncohen:  you'd think, roght?05:52
cafuegotea05:52
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, "dpkg -l | grep totem"05:52
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, "dpkg -l w32codecs"05:52
sfvts/placed/played/05:52
mebarancan X be made to use the framebuffer device05:52
philiplet's say i wanted to add a repository that had packages i'm used to but apparently are obscure, things like jed and feta. what would be a good one?05:52
PurpleMotionah05:52
PurpleMotionit's gstream05:52
depraveJAS05:52
PurpleMotionbut05:52
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, you need totem-xine05:52
mebaranwhat would the driver be05:52
depravejasoncohen what does that do?05:52
PurpleMotioni have xine, and it doesnt play it either05:52
mebaranthat would allow such nonsense05:52
PurpleMotionyeah lemme install it05:52
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, "sudo apt-get install totem-xine w32codecs"05:52
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, and you need to add the hoary-extras repository if you haven't already05:53
whitefanghow do i make my win2k partition writable by the adm user group?05:53
PurpleMotionyeah i got w32codecs, didnt you see me say i recompiled mplayer for all the codecs :D05:53
jasoncohen!tell PurpleMotion about multimedia05:53
PurpleMotioni got it dude05:53
PurpleMotionthanks05:53
jasoncohenthat's mplayer05:53
Madpilot!tell philip about repos05:53
jasoncohenyou're talking about the xine engine05:53
jasoncohenit should work in mplayer05:53
lJlolel!tell myself about multimedia05:53
PurpleMotiondoesnt change the fact that it doesnt05:53
depravewill sudo apt-get install totem-xine w32codecs help me play certain videos?05:54
jasoncohendeprave, yes05:54
Madpilot!tell Madpilot about opera05:54
mebaranI would like to replace my framebuffer device with nvidiafb05:54
depravelike my precious porn?05:54
depravethanks05:54
mebaraninstead it loads vga16fb05:54
mebaranwhat might I do05:54
lJlolelevery time i do sudo, it says my login attempts don't work05:54
lJloleli have to su05:54
jasoncohendeprave, totem-xine and w32codecs will play divx/xvid, windows media video, realplayer etc05:54
depraveE: Couldn't find package w32codecs05:54
depraveroot@splinter:/etc/tripwire #05:54
naliothdeprave: w32codecs won't play the newest wmv9 and 10 vids, iirc05:54
PurpleMotionyeah mplayer plays EVERYTHING - except - these friggen .mp4 files05:54
sfvtdeprave: yes, totem-xine will place you're precious porn ;)05:54
jasoncohenJolel: are you using ubuntu? ubuntu has no root account by default05:55
cefxyah I have precious porn too!05:55
depraveit didn't find it unfortunately05:55
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, do you have an example .mp4 file i can download?05:55
naliothPurpleMotion: compile it with libfaad05:55
MadpilotlJlolel: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:55
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jasoncohendeprave, you need to add the hoary-extras repository05:55
cefxAmaranth: Kudos/props to you and the devs.  This is turning out to be a good distro.05:55
lJlolellol yes i'm using ubuntu05:55
jasoncohen!tell deprave about multimedia05:55
cefxAlso05:55
cefxHas anyone used Cedega on X?05:55
PurpleMotionnalioth:  would that be included in apt-get build-dep mplayer-686 ??05:55
jasoncohen!tell deprave about multimedia repositories05:55
Amaranthcefx: I just work on smeg. :)05:55
sfvtjasoncohen: or is it whorey-extras ?05:55
cefxhehe05:55
jasoncohensfvt, lol05:55
cefxAmaranth: As an ex windows user...it's nice seeing it hold my hand, but also nice knowing I can reformat and do it all by hand with the server install.05:56
naliothPurpleMotion: it's been my (personal and in helping others) experience that compiling mplayer is the best route to the most compatibility05:56
deprave!tell me about playing porn more efficiently05:56
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whitefanghmmm, this was either answered and i missed it, or not answered, so I'll try again. sorry to be a PITA.05:56
jasmuzdeprave: hahaha05:56
whitefanghow do i make my win2k partition writable by the adm user group?05:56
PurpleMotionnalioth:  i compiled it... it still doesnt run tho, heh05:56
philipMadpilot, perfect, thanks05:56
jasoncohendeprave, porn usually uses divx/xvid avi's or plain mpegs...you should have excellent support with totem or xine05:56
Madpilotphilip: np05:57
jasoncohendeprave, you might find xine better for your porn needs as it starts up very quickly and you can have multiple windows open without a performance hit :)05:57
naliothPurpleMotion: and i recommend you d/l all the codecs/libs via apt, compile the ones not available in apt, and d/l hte source from mplayerhq and compile it with flags of your choice05:57
PurpleMotionjasoncohen:  well, totem-xine got as close as ive been.. it played the audio for about 30 seconds, displayed no video, and crashed almost immediately after opening05:57
windexcafuego, it will make you happy to know i am now going to bed as i have stumbled into a bug in my code i do not have the mental capacity, at 11pm, to fix.05:57
raDeondo i have to install nvidia drivers05:57
raDeonor is that all set up05:57
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jasoncohendeprave, also has easy to use keyboard shortcuts when you can't get to the mouse05:57
PurpleMotionnalioth:  yeah did all that05:57
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depraveawesome thanks05:57
depraveyou guys are like porn commandos05:58
naliothPurpleMotion: then i dont know anything else05:58
depravejasoncohen: hahahaha05:58
windexsomeone needs to write a better debugger than gdb for dealing with code that uses pthreads.05:58
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, ok- do you have w32codecs installed? you compiled mplayer but that doesn't mean that the codecs are there for xine. i recommend you install the w32codecs package but the mp4 format is obviously a difficult one05:58
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PurpleMotionyes, i do.05:58
naliothPurpleMotion: you need libfaad for mp4s/aac05:58
Detoxany ideas on a distro for grade school kids?05:58
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skalpelhi05:59
whitefangDetox, this one.05:59
PurpleMotionii  libfaad2-0     2.0.0-0.3      freeware Advanced Audio Decoder - runtime fi05:59
PurpleMotionii  libfaad2-dev   2.0.0-0.3      freeware Advanced Audio Decoder - developmen05:59
PurpleMotioninstalled.05:59
sfvtDetox: edubuntu?05:59
Detoxwhere do i faind it?05:59
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, gstreamer0.8-faad - GStreamer faad plugins05:59
poningruhmm installed lm-sensors from repo05:59
whitefangDetox, i just installed it for the first time. it was the easiest install of any OS i've ever done.05:59
naliothPurpleMotion: you also need gstreamer-libfaad (or whatever it's called)05:59
poningruany one know how to configure it?05:59
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, is that installed?05:59
sproingieDetox: edubuntu.org05:59
PurpleMotionnope05:59
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windexomg. someone _does_ write something better than gdb for debugging threads. smartgdb06:00
rockholicohelo there!06:00
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer gstreamer0.8-faad06:00
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sproingieDetox: it's not out yet06:00
raDeonwhy, on linux, is there always a significant "buzzing" distortion in my music at high volumes06:00
PurpleMotionman i just installed totem-xine :D06:00
PurpleMotionyou guys got me in circles06:00
noxPurpleMotion, what seems to be the problem?06:00
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, sorry man- i hadn't used mp4...i'm searching google as we speak to try to help you06:01
PurpleMotionnox, video codecs are a pain in the ass, thats all06:01
PurpleMotionjasoncohen:  i appreciate it :)06:01
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, also try "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg06:01
noxPurpleMotion, what is the problem with the codecs?06:01
naliothPurpleMotion: changing from totem-xine to totem-gstreamer aint but a thang06:01
noxjasoncohen, it will not work.06:01
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PurpleMotioni know i know06:01
naliothPurpleMotion: install ALL gstreamer plugins06:01
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins will give you most06:02
jasoncohenyou can go into synaptic and just install all of 'em06:02
whitefangnoone knows how i can make my ntfs partition writable by the adm user group?06:02
depravei am running out of space on my mighty 6gig quantum fireball, i have another 10 gig somewhere i want to throw on here that curently has windows 2000 on it ntfs etc, i don't mind wiping it, aside from throwing it on here and jumper settings and stuff what should i expect the boot loader to do, will it see it, and how do i formate the drive and what do i mount it as or is there software to help with it06:02
noxPurpleMotion, what are you trying to run? mp4 files?06:02
naliothwhitefang: writing to NTFS can lead to a loss of the NTFS partition06:02
sfvtwhitefang: does ubuntu even support writing to NTFS?06:02
PurpleMotionwow, gstreamer is pretty fuckin powerful, eh06:02
PurpleMotionnox: yeah..06:02
noxPurpleMotion, you tried with mplayer?06:03
whitefangnalioth, ok, so i should copy my game directory to my linux parition, and run it from there?06:03
jasmuzsfvt: not really06:03
PurpleMotionoh god here we go06:03
naliothwhitefang: or use Partition Magic to convert your NTFS to fat3206:03
jasoncohendeprave, you can use a gui partition tool like gparted to do all that06:03
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Detoxthanks for the info,,, I will watch  for a DL06:03
jlynchsholas06:03
whitefangnalioth, i don't want to buy partition magic.06:03
noxPurpleMotion, you don`t want me to help you? i am going to fix your problem06:03
whitefangwine can't run a windows program off of ext3?06:03
PurpleMotionyeah, i even recompiled mplayer with every codec youc an think of installed :) I also optimized it for my cpu, and told it to use a more current gtk toolkit but we wont go there06:03
jasoncohendeprave, sudo apt-get install gparted. then sudo gparted, format the disk, make an ext3 partition and add it to /etc/fstab06:04
ZartanI have Logitech QuickCam Express. I have compiled module and done sudo insmod ./quickcam.ko. now i have modules usbcore               107384  4 quickcam,usbhid,uhci_hcd videodev                9728  1 quickcam quickcam               69156  0. how i get camera running now?06:04
PurpleMotionnah, im just sayin been there, done that, heh06:04
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depravejasoncohen : fan freakin tastic my good man (or good women with a terrible name for a female)06:04
noxPurpleMotion, ok, please wait 1 minuet06:04
PurpleMotionheh, sure06:04
jasoncohendeprave, man :)06:04
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jasoncohennox, so, what do you need to get mp4 support. i'll add it to the multimedia wiki06:04
sfvtwhitefang, I think wine can run programs on an ext3 fs06:05
PurpleMotionTotem could not play 'file:///home/media/movies/Batman.Begins.TS.SVCD.mp4'.06:05
naliothjasoncohen: libfaad, gstreamer-<faad>06:05
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Zartanso must I restart computer to get camera running06:05
lJlolel!tell myself about sudo06:05
PurpleMotionsays could not open file for writing , wtf ever that means06:05
jtgameoveri'm currently using openbox, and i'd like a way to live without a task panel, just a "system tray"06:05
whitefangsfvt, ok, thanks.06:05
sk545is there a special command to install from the -staging repo?06:05
jtgameoverdoes anyone know of any program that can do this?06:05
noxPurpleMotion, you tried "mpeg4ip"?06:05
jasoncohenZartan, start gnomemeeting from Internet > gnomemeeting and test it out06:05
ReleaseXis there a program that allows you to easily change your workgroup under windows without editing a text file06:05
PurpleMotionwhats that?06:06
jasoncohenZartan, my logitech quickcam 3000 pro was automatically supported in ubuntu06:06
noxhttp://mpeg4ip.sourceforge.net/06:06
Zartanjasoncohen: I try :)06:06
lJlolelyou dont like the network setup wizard?06:06
sfvtwhitefang: also, regarding your other question... look at the ntfs mount options in the mount(8) man page... esp the gid= and umask= options06:06
jasoncohenReleaseX, yeah, control center > system ...somewhere in there is workgroup which you can change06:06
PurpleMotioncould not open resource for writing06:06
noxPurpleMotion, enter: http://mpeg4ip.sourceforge.net/06:06
whitefangok, but i don't want to ruin the partition, so it's probably better not to do that right?06:06
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jasoncohennox, what other codecs does mpeg4ip support?06:07
sfvtwhitefang, yeah.06:07
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PurpleMotionnox:  i dont suppose i'd be so fortunate as to there being a package for this?06:08
PurpleMotionokay, now EVERYTHING i try to open in totem results in "resource not available for writing"06:08
noxjasoncohen, i don`t know, read in the link i gave here06:08
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noxPurpleMotion, totem is weak. don`t use it. i don`t know if there is a package for mpeg4ip, ill be searching for it in 2 minutes06:09
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, looks like you'll need to compile from source. You'll need build dependencies- "sudo apt-get install libtool autoconf automake1.4"06:09
skalpelcan someone tell me what this means?06:10
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skalpel[Fatal Error]  :1:136: The element type "videos" must be terminated by the matching end-tag "</videos>".06:10
skalpelcdrecord dev=/dev/hdc gracetime=2 speed=4 -v -eject -multi /tmp/GnomeBaker/jon/gnomebaker_create_data_cd.iso (null)06:10
skalpel** Message: MessageDialog message [Please insert the CD into the CD writer] 06:10
jasoncohennox, does ffmpeg support mp4?06:10
PurpleMotionjasoncohen:  wtf? it worked before you had me install all this gstreamer stuff (at least for non-mp4 files)... now you're telling me i need to recompile??06:10
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, no, no06:10
skalpeli am trying to burn mp3 files in gnomebaker and that is the error i get06:10
noxjasoncohen, i don`t think so - i have this package installed and i can`t play those open source episodes from legaltorrents.com06:10
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Zartanjasoncohen: device not found :( Something I must do- Maybe insert some script in rc.local?06:10
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, only if you want mpeg4ip working. i don't know why totem has gone haywire. i've had weirdness with totem but it fixes itself either by restarting gnome or by restarting the system06:11
levanderI've got some file, /etc/printcap, on my system.  It's a link to /var/run/cups/printcap.  However, that second file doesn't exist on my system.  What's that about?  Something to worry about?06:11
jasoncohenZartan, is it connected?06:11
PurpleMotionGRR06:11
jasoncohenZartan, usb camera right?06:11
Amaranthjasoncohen: nothing supports mp406:11
PurpleMotionand i dont run gnome06:11
skalpelwhy wont nautilus show bunr://06:11
deprave(totem:13250): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:06:11
depraveAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.06:11
skalpel?06:11
levanderI just checked, I don't have cups installed.06:11
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, then KDE06:11
Amaranthjasoncohen: mp4 is encrypted with Apple's FairPlay DRM06:11
deprave=/06:11
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, look- i'm trying to help, i'm sorry06:11
depraveit doesn't like me06:11
PurpleMotioni know06:11
PurpleMotionits just frustrating06:11
depravekick it06:12
jasoncohenPurpleMotion, if you're having problems with totem, first try restarting KDE06:12
depravekicking computers makes them work06:12
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jasoncohenPurpleMotion, if that doesn't work, restart your box. It's a bad solution, but it works, heh06:12
Zartanjasoncohen: yes. it's connected in usb-port.06:12
PurpleMotionyeah lemme try that06:12
jasoncohenAmaranth, you mean- nothing that's packaged by ubuntu or nothing available anywhere06:12
jasoncohenthat you know of06:12
Amaranthjasoncohen: you'll need to strip the DRM from the files, which is illegal06:12
Amaranthso i won't discuss it here06:12
depraveE: Couldn't find package w32codecs06:12
deprave=/06:13
jasoncohenheh, so it's not so impossible- just illegal :)06:13
jasoncohendeprave, you need hoary-extras06:13
jasoncohen!tell deprave about multimedia repositories06:13
noxdeprave, it called win32codecs, not w3206:13
depravewhat did you call me?06:13
whitefangis there any software to adjust my screens color settings?06:13
jasoncohennox, no- it's called w32codecs06:13
whitefangthe hardware controls arn't good enough.06:13
noxjasoncohen, sorry, you right.06:13
noxhttp://mpeg4ip.sourceforge.net/06:13
depraveextras?06:13
noxoops06:13
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noxofer@tuxido:~$ apt-cache search w32codecs06:14
noxw32codecs - win32 binary codecs06:14
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jasoncohendeprave, you need to either replace or edit your sources.list and then update the apt cahce. follow the instructions i gave you06:14
lJlolelhaha, my Joe account keeps getting emails about Joe trying to break into sudo06:14
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DekaPinkYargh...06:14
jtgameoverdoes anyone know of a program that would make everything go to a "system tray" of sorts, instead of a panel?06:14
jasoncohenJolel: you didn't allow your user administrative access06:14
jasoncohenJolel: su -c users-admin06:14
noxdeprave, here you can find a very good sources.list file -> http://whatsup.org.il/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=19050&highlight=mp406:14
noxdeprave, im talking about the longest one, painted in green06:15
jasoncohenthen choose your user and give it administrative privileges06:15
lJloleli'm already there06:15
jasoncohenlJlolel, go to user privileges and enable "executing system administration tasks"06:15
lJlolelhm06:15
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lJloleltheres no such option06:15
Zartanjasoncohen: So my maybe must buy some other camera :)06:16
wardbonesHi, I've got sound-juicer all set up but it won't show one of my encoders.  Anybody willing to help?06:16
lJloleland no similar option06:16
jasoncohennox, no! that's a very bad sources.list file06:16
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jasoncohendeprave, don't use that link! marillat can seriously fuck up your system06:16
jasoncohenit's meant for debian- not ubuntu06:16
Amaranthnox: NONONONONONONONO06:16
jasoncohennox, marillat is an unofficial source for debian and it's quite a good source if you are running debian but it will cause no end of troubles on ubuntu! use ubuntu backports & extras instead06:17
jasoncohenlJlolel, are you using hoary or warty?06:17
cefxbrb06:17
lJlolelhoary06:17
cefxHm.06:17
f_newtonnox good advice06:17
lJlolelthis is weird, no?06:17
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jasoncohenlJlolel, well, hoary should have that option in users-admin06:17
lJlolelhm, well i guess i can live without sudo06:18
cefxWhy do people complain about Gnome, Amaranth?  The natural build that comes with 5.04 looks pretty sweet to me.06:18
jasoncohenlJlolel, did you choose your user and select properties?06:18
f_newtonmost distros that have their own updating tools tend to use file extensions designed to make their updating process uniform...06:18
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lJlolelchoose user and select properties?06:18
depravei just used the sources list on that ubuntu page you just gave me jasoncohen06:18
PhuzionHey, are there PHP development tools in Ubuntu?06:18
Amaranthcefx: *shrug*06:18
cafuegoPhuzion: vim06:18
naliothcefx: cuz gnome use to be sour06:18
Amaranthcefx: I guess they don't like brown06:18
jasoncohenlJlolel, select the user you want, click the properties button, then the User Privileges tab and then enabled "executing system administrative tasks"06:18
cefxHeh!06:18
cefxIt -does- use a lot of RAM, it looks like.06:19
cefx200megs of ram?06:19
lJlolellol i told you theres no such item06:19
jasoncohendeprave, ok- good06:19
cefxThat's like Windows.06:19
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poningruanyone know how to get xsensors working?06:19
noxPhuzion, i like "screem"06:19
lJlolelhm, can i just edit it directly? (visudo) in hoary?06:19
jasoncohendeprave, did you follow all instructions? - thorough "sudo apt-get update"06:19
poningrufor some reason it opens but just has an empty window06:19
poningrudo I have to configure my lm-sensor?06:19
cyphaseshit06:19
jasoncohenlJlolel, su -c users-admin06:19
poningruany doc pointers would be great06:19
Phuzionnox, does that have the kind of stuff that dreamweaver has, like all of the different tags, and variables in drop down menus as you're coding?06:20
cyphasethis is the second time i've had DNS problems06:20
depraveyes06:20
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jasoncohenlJlolel, do you see a "preferences" button?06:20
depraveim doing the update now =>06:20
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deprave=D even06:20
lJloleljasoncohen, no it's called properties06:20
jasoncohenlJlolel, you can use visudo but this is easier and there is no reason it shouldn't work if you're on hoary06:20
cefxWould mount -oumask=022 -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /fatty work? for my NTFS drive.06:20
lJloleland it doesn't have that option06:20
noxPhuzion, i have never used dreamweaver, So i don`t know what are you talking about. Try it.. it is realy comfortable.06:20
cefxOr is the command different for oumask in ubuntu?06:20
PhuzionAlright, thanks man06:20
jasoncohenlJlolel, Ok, well select the user you want and click Properties06:21
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Amaranthcefx: ntfs is read-onlu06:21
Amarantherr, read-only06:21
drcodehi all06:21
PhuzionI'm installing the OS on my extra HD right now, so I'll check it out.06:21
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lJloleljasoncohen, yesi know, click that, user priveleges06:21
cefxAmaranth: I know.  That's why it's 022.06:21
drcodeany idea of fax/voice software?06:21
lJloleland of all the options, none say giving executive privileges06:21
lJlolelor anything similar06:21
benplautAmaranth: how's Smeg going? :)06:21
drcodeI Want to get fax and voice call06:21
lJloleli'm just editiing the text06:21
cefxIs there a better mask for read only for all users?06:21
drcodein ubunutu06:21
cefxone sec please :)06:21
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jasoncohenlJlolel, and you're telling me in user privileges you don't see "executing system administration tasks" as the 6th option?06:21
noxcefx - you mean 0222, not 02206:21
PurpleMotiongiving mpeg4ip a shot06:21
PurpleMotionand i fixed totem06:21
lJloleljasoncohen, that's right06:21
jasoncohenok, one second06:22
depravemy cat's breath smells like catfood06:22
benplautthat's nice to know06:22
PurpleMotioni needed to run gstreamer-properties and set to alsa.. odd that totem doesnt give you a link to gstreamer's properties06:22
jasoncohen!tell jason about sudo06:22
f_newtonmy dog's breat smells like cat butt... gotta git rid of that litter box06:22
noxPurpleMotion, i told you, totem is WEAK06:22
skalpelwhat does it mean when gnomebaker quits halfway through a write and asks me to insert a disc?06:22
poningruskalpel: most likely that the cd is messed up06:23
noxskalpel, probably means you have to use k3b :] 06:23
jasoncohenlJlolel, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RootSudo06:23
poningrutry another cd06:23
poningruand what nox said06:23
lJloleljasoncohen, enable access to external storage is my sixth option06:23
jasoncohenlJlolel, are you absolutely sure you're using hoary?06:23
benplautf_newton: weird...06:23
jasoncohenlJlolel, gedit /etc/apt/sources.list. do the entries say warty or hoary?06:23
f_newtonk3b is what almost everyone who knows and wants to use gui uses06:23
f_newtonwhats weird benplaut ?06:23
lJlolelya, all hoary06:23
jasoncohenlJlolel, if you're in warty, "In Warty, adding a new user involves editing the /etc/sudoers file. To edit that file, you must use 'visudo' as it will error check the file before exiting. To add a user with the same administration rights as the first user, add the following lines to the file: '$newuser ALL=(ALL) ALL'. Replace the $newuser with the username."06:24
whitefanganyone know why a game would run so slow under wine its unplayable?06:24
benplautor gnome-baker, if you are a die-hard KDE hater06:24
benplautyour dog is weird :P06:24
lJloleljasoncohen, yea i did that06:24
lJloleljasoncohen, it didnt work :(06:24
ZartanI try reboot06:24
f_newtonnot enough resources whitefang06:24
noxwhitefang, thats because you have ati card :) am i right?06:24
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lJloleljasoncohen, when i was installing, my installation didn't find any security files06:24
f_newtonbenplaut, every dog ive ever had eats the cat crap06:24
whitefangno, geforce card06:24
lJloleljasoncohen, could that be why?06:24
f_newtondoesnt want the cat to think its home06:24
whitefangi remember a friend had the same problem, and it was some setting he had to change.06:24
noxwhitefang, have you installed nvidia-glx ?06:24
jasoncohenlJlolel, well, something is definitely wrong then06:25
whitefangnox, no.06:25
whitefangunless its installed by default.06:25
noxwhitefang, so do it now: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"06:25
lJloleljasoncohen, yea, really weird06:25
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whitefangnox, do i have to do anything else?06:25
noxwhitefang, nope. just reset after you install it, and check the game if it still slow06:26
noxwhitefang, thats probably the problem. drivers.06:26
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whitefangnox, ok, now it won't run at all06:26
whitefangit just crashes when i try and start it.06:26
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noxwhitefang, you installed nvidia-glx and did a reboot?06:26
whitefangwtf06:27
whitefangthis is linux, i have to reboot?06:27
whitefangjk06:27
noxwhitefang, we are talking about drivers..06:27
wardbonesis there a .conf file I can mv to reset sound-juicer to pre-run?06:27
whitefangok, i'll reboot.06:27
whitefangbrb06:27
noxwhitefang, cya06:27
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cefxok...06:28
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depraveupdates are fun!06:28
deprave=D06:28
cefxHow the fuck do I get root privs in ubuntu?06:28
cefx:|06:28
cefxthere's no root account06:28
noxsudo <command>06:28
benplautuse your own password06:29
noxcefx, there is a root account, you just have to change its password. "sudo passwd root" will do what you want.06:29
jasoncohencefx, sudo command or sudo -i for a root shell06:29
PurpleMotionthis thing looks like it's gonna take a while to compile06:29
cefxneat!06:29
cefxthanks.06:29
benplautand, if you want a root terminal, sudo su06:29
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whitefangwow, nice and fast reboot.06:29
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benplautit didn't even say you left?!06:29
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PurpleMotionwtf06:30
cafuegocefx: Step one is to realise you don't need a root account.06:30
noxwhitefang, it works?06:30
jtgameoverdoes anyone here use openbox?06:30
cefxcafuego, step two is to realize i need the permissions :)06:30
esacwhen I do a "top" in ubuntu , under CPU time, there is "wa" .. anybody know what this is, i cant find it documented06:30
cafuegocefx: So use 'sudo'06:30
whitefangnow i get another error...06:30
esacPurpleMotion: ?06:30
craksany one use ppc ubuntu here?06:30
craksi have a problem about nptl in glibc06:30
PurpleMotionesac: how is your hostmask esac.user?06:30
noxwhitefang, what is the error?06:30
esacPurpleMotion : because i have a user mask06:30
whitefangunable to initialize 3d output, please verify that you have installed driectx 8 and an updated video driver.06:30
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_frankesac: I think its some waiting the cpu is doing for io to happen06:30
PurpleMotionesac: how does one acquire such a thing?06:31
whitefangbefore i installed those drivers you mentioned it was actually loading the game.06:31
nalioth_zZzcraks: ask your question06:31
whitefangit just ran really slowly.06:31
esac_frank, thanks that would make sense then :)06:31
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noxwhitefang, wine is NOT for games. what game are you trying to load? you tried to run it with "dx9wine bla.exe" ?06:31
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whitefangnox, my friend runs guild wars under ubuntu.06:31
whitefangand no, i didn't use dx9wine06:31
noxwhitefang, thats because he is using cedega06:32
esacPurpleMotion : the best way is to donate, you can sometimes get one by just asking for one, but you probably have to catch them in the right mood :)06:32
whitefangok.06:32
noxwhitefang, so try dx9wine.06:32
PurpleMotionheh06:32
whitefangis dx9wine cedega?06:32
noxno06:32
whitefangor should i apt-get install cedega?06:32
craksi have run the command getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION06:32
craksbut the result is linuxthreas-0.1006:32
craksnot nptl 0.6*06:32
crakswhy this happens in ubuntu06:32
twystedhell im using ubuntu 5.04 and i cannot resolve domains, i have checked my nameservers and gateways, i am able to ping ips but not domains, and oddly  i can still get updates/upgrades through apt and aptitude, any ideas?06:32
noxwhitefang, you can`t. cedega costs money.06:32
twysted^hello06:32
whitefangoh.06:32
craksnptl is more faster and better than linuxthreads06:32
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f_newtontrue craks06:32
whitefangnox, i don't have dx9wine06:33
_frankwhitefang: you can get cedega from cvs for free and legally06:33
benplauttwysted: does ping www.google.com work?06:33
cafuegoa cedega with stuff ripped out06:33
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_frankcafuego: really? lika what?06:33
cefxdmesg error says BIOS error no PSB06:33
twystedbenplaut: no, "unknown host"06:33
esacPurpleMotion:  http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#behaviorandcloaks06:33
cefxand uh06:33
benplauthmm06:33
noxwhitefang, try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2999606:33
whitefangnox, how do i get dx9wine?06:33
cefxwhere the hell is my external hdd listed?06:33
benplaut!nameserver06:33
ubotubenplaut: I don't know06:33
cyphasetwysted, i'm having the same problem06:33
benplautarg06:33
twystedcyphase, im glad im not the only one06:34
skalpelnox: can i install k3b from package manager?06:34
noxwhitefang, again, what game are you trying to run?06:34
whitefangnox, guild wars.06:34
twystedand a side note, i have tried reinstalling from my own burnt cd and an offical pressed cd06:34
noxskalpel, sure, if you have universe sources. try this: sudo apt-get install k3b06:34
skalpelk, got it06:34
cyphasei don't know why firefox doesn't save IP addresses of domains..06:34
craksi mean why not use nptl but linuxthreads, any one knows?06:34
craksthere is a problem using nptl under ppc linux?06:34
cyphasejust in case DNS goes down, you can at least go to sites that you've been to06:34
twystedcyphase because the base system should cache dns :)06:35
cefxWhere in dmesg would a USB 2.0 external hdd be found?06:35
twystednot firefox06:35
cefxI can't find what the device is called in /dev06:35
cyphasetwysted, yes, well, that too06:35
cefxwhitefang, using cedega?06:35
noxwhitefang, what type of a game is guild wars? rpg?06:35
cyphasetwysted, but it wouldn't be to gard for firefox to implement it until the base system does06:35
asdamount /dev/fd006:35
cefxnox: mmorpg, no monthly fees06:35
asdamount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified06:35
asdacan help me sir06:35
cyphasehard*06:35
cefxlike diablo06:35
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cefxasda: is it an NTFS drive?06:35
twystedcyphase yes but thats something a browser shouldnt have to do, it could cause problems as well06:36
whitefangnox, its like a super-diablo06:36
_frankcyphase: yeah, how often does dns go down?06:36
noxwhitefang, sorry, running guild wars with wine is not possible at this time. if you want to play it you will have to buy cedega.06:36
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skalpelugh, im not using k3b, it's made for kde, i use gnome.06:36
poningruum why isnt smeg in apt?06:37
noxwhitefang, www.transgaming.com06:37
poningruerr repos06:37
cyphase_frank, how many people really use RSS?06:37
noxskalpel, k3b works great in gnome.06:37
PurpleMotionyou could have a MMOFPS06:37
poningru!smeg06:37
uboturumour has it, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.06:37
Amaranthponingru: it's in backports and breezy06:37
cyphaseyet firefox has an RSS reader06:37
lJlolel!tell myself about java06:37
whitefangnox, but it ran in wine, just really slowly before i installed those drivers.06:37
PurpleMotionor a MMOBG06:37
skalpelnox: it is hideous.06:37
lJlolelhmm, no java bot?06:37
PurpleMotionor even a MMOCG06:37
cefxwhitefang: you can warez cedega :)06:37
PurpleMotionyou cant tie MMO to RPG :D06:37
lJlolelnevermind06:37
cefxWhy not, PurpleMotion :06:37
benplautAmaranth: how's your work on it going?06:37
cefxIt's semantics.06:37
whitefangcefx, i'd rather not.06:37
asda!ping me06:38
ubotuasda: I don't know, could you explain it?06:38
PurpleMotioncefx, i just illustrated that06:38
_frankAmaranth:06:38
benplaut(it's jut a bot)06:38
lJlolelis backports just an apt away?06:38
Amaranthbenplaut: http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg-devel/loading_everything.png06:38
PurpleMotionill be back, need to hit the store real quick06:38
Amaranth!backports06:38
ubotubackports is, like, .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted06:38
sproingieGW is slightly less "massive" than others.  lots of players, but you don't really compete for areas, it's all privately instanced per party06:38
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_frankAmaranth: will Gnome put a menu editor in Gnome's next release?06:38
sproingiemuch like diablo in that sense06:38
Amaranth_frank: is has an editor that does nothing but show and hide entries06:38
bur[n] er_frank: www.slashdot.org read about it ;)06:39
benplaut_frank: yup, but it pales to smeg06:39
_frankAmaranth: maybe they would be interested in the work you've done ;-)06:39
benplautAmaranth: darn... i just drooled on my keyboard :(06:39
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benplautwhn'll it be ready for release?06:39
bur[n] eri think gnome 2.12 is beta1, so feature freeze is on, correct?06:40
_frankbur[n] er: if I remember correctly they change standard for menu information storage but a menu editor is pretty (absolutely) necessary. It's not much of an excuse06:40
necrogamiHere's my problem: i installed Mozilla-Firefox w/ Apt-get and installed Java via the executable bin file on java.com i want to link Mozilla to the java what symlink do i need to put in ???06:40
whitefanghow do i remove a pakage? is it apt-get uninstall wine?06:40
Amaranth_frank: did i mention smeg is in GNOME CVS now?06:40
benplautoohhh06:40
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benplautnice!06:41
maxy_noobHi guys!06:41
Amaranthdoesn't mean much though06:41
bur[n] ernecrogami: check wiki, faq, and ubuntuguide.org06:41
noxwhitefang, you do it with: sudo apt-get remove <PKG>06:41
twystednecrogami: when you install java from the bin file you need to tell it to install to the firefox plugin dir06:41
_frankAmaranth: nice06:41
necrogamiwhitefang: apt-get remove <pkg>06:41
maxy_noobI installed RealPlayer 10 for Linux. But when I try to run it nothing happens06:41
poningruanyone know if the hoary-extras is not official yet?06:41
twystedmaxy_noob: check realplayer's website for support on that06:41
necrogamitwysted: whats the commandline for the firefox plugin?06:42
benplautlegally, i don't thik it can be official06:42
Amaranthhttp://dev.realistanew.com/compare.png06:42
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_frankponingru: with w32codecs inside, could hoary-extras even be official?06:42
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maxy_noobbut I followed their instructions.06:42
Amaranthponingru: hoary-extras will never be official06:42
twystednecrogami its when you install the java not something u do in firefox06:42
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esacok i swear ive googled. how do i setup samba so that my windows machines can simply "net use" to them like normal .. id actually prefer just an open share, no authentication required if possible06:42
necrogamii know06:42
poningruic06:42
poningruk thanks guys06:42
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cyphasecan someone give me a DNS server IP?06:42
Amaranthponingru: it's so illegal it could probably get you sued by the entire software industry06:42
skalpelhas anyone else had any trouble using msn in linux?06:42
asdamount /dev/fd006:42
asdamount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified06:43
poningruright ic06:43
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necrogami./j2re-1.5.0_04.i586.bin -??????06:43
asdaanyone wanna help me06:43
poningrudoes it conflict with hoary-backports?06:43
twystedasda is it a ntfs drive06:43
poningrucould adding both cause problems?06:43
esacasda mount -t vfat /dev/fdo /mnt/floppy06:43
Amaranthponingru: no, hoary-backports is a seperate project06:43
benplautAmaranth: hmm... do those arrows on the side in .8 mean that we'll be able to re-order entries?06:43
skalpelwhat does it mean when gnomebaker quits halfway through a write and asks me to insert a disc?06:43
Amaranthbenplaut: you can in 0.706:43
_frankponingru: no problems using both!06:43
Amaranthbenplaut: if you're on KDE or GNOME 2.1106:43
benplautaaahhh06:44
benplaut2.10 doesn't impliment it06:44
Amaranthbenplaut: right06:44
poningruhmm ok thanks guys06:44
benplautthat's a good reason to switch to breezy06:44
benplaut(j/k before you jump on me)06:44
Amaranthbenplaut: 0.7.5 is the last version i'm keeping the 2.10 support in for, it probably added 200 lines of code i don't want to maintain anymore06:44
benplauthmm06:45
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twystedcyphase> 209.210.176.806:45
PurpleMotionstill compiling, heh06:46
sproingiewhat the heck.  ghci segfaults out of the box06:46
cyphasethanx twysted06:46
twystedwelcome06:46
PurpleMotionmplayer segfaults when i try to play dvds, heh06:47
PurpleMotionbut kaffeine plays them fine06:47
PurpleMotiongo finger06:47
twystedprobibly a bad setting in mplayer06:47
PurpleMotioni doubt it06:48
lJlolelwhat will be the next name of ubuntu?06:48
PurpleMotionbreezy badger06:48
lJlolelno hog?06:48
benplautnope06:48
twystedcheck it purplemotion, i couldnt play dvds in mplayer unless i mounted the dvd and it was set as the right device :P06:48
poningrugaaah wtf06:49
benplautBreezy Badgerhog06:49
lJlolelof course06:49
cefxI need help finding what device my external hard drive is.06:49
whitefangsudo apt-get install xlibmesa-glu-dev06:49
poningruthere is a firefox package in backports06:49
cefxAny tips, people?06:49
whitefangoops06:49
poningruand a mozilla-firefox in main06:49
PurpleMotioni get a decode_video error then mplayer segfaults06:49
poningruor whatever it is in06:49
whitefang  gcc-3.4 3.4.3-9ubuntu406:49
whitefang  gcc 4:3.3.5-106:49
whitefang  gcc-3.3 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu206:49
benplautcefx: go to Places menu, and see all of the options there06:49
whitefangwhich of these is the best package to install?06:49
PurpleMotionand, tmk, everything is setup right06:49
benplautit should be in that menu06:49
twystedoh nice purplemotion06:49
PurpleMotionyah06:49
cefxuh it's not?06:49
PurpleMotioneven if i try to open .vob files06:50
cefxit's an external drive that is not mounted06:50
PurpleMotionsame deal06:50
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benplautoh06:50
skalpelis there an app top unpack rar files that uses a gui?06:50
PurpleMotioni just dont have the best luck when it comes to video in linux, heh06:50
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PurpleMotiondoesnt ark do rar files if rar is installed?06:51
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benplautcefx: try "sudo /mnt/usbhdd" and then "mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/usbhdd"06:51
cefxbenplaut, ideas?06:51
twystedive always double clicked rar files and it did it for me06:51
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benplautoh, and a sudo on the second one06:51
PurpleMotionyup06:51
cefxbenplaut, it's also ntfs06:51
PurpleMotionark does rar files06:51
gpdsproingie: sorry for annoyance... but do you remember an X11 app called sproingie or springie or sproing or something... it was a spring simulator like sodaplay.com06:51
benplautthen you'll only be able to read it, not write06:51
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benplautbrb06:51
cafuegoit might need unrar-nonfree06:51
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PurpleMotionDAMNIT06:52
skalpelwhat is the command to execute unrar-nonfree?06:52
sproingiegpd: there's an opengl screensaver named sproingies, inspired by qbert.  that's where i got the name06:52
PurpleMotionmpeg4ip error'd on make06:52
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PurpleMotionFARK06:52
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cefxbenplaut, /mnt/usbhdd isn't a command06:52
cafuegoskalpel: 'unrar', if it is installed06:52
skalpelit is, but that does not offer me a gui, it is a command line program06:53
ricosuave17how do i log onto a ssh computer06:53
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PurpleMotionwhy in the hell cant you just 'make player'06:53
gpdsproingie: ok, no problem, thought you might be talking about that spring thing... I think it might be solaris come to think of it...06:53
mebaranwhat marillat branch should I use for mplayer06:53
crimsunmebaran: for hoary? use sarge.06:54
mebaranI need version 1.07 because the early ones are pretty buggy on amd6406:54
cafuegomebaran: none06:54
mebarancrimsun, for breezy atm06:54
crimsunbetter yet, compile it on your own system.06:54
skalpelUNRAR 3.40 freeware      Copyright (c) 1993-2004 Alexander Roshal06:54
mebaranI was trying to use build dep06:54
skalpelis that the correct version?06:54
cafuegomebaran: marrilat is debianused and youll get libc6 depend issues06:54
skalpelall i get is a command line help response06:54
cafuegomebaran: Basically, don't use breezy.06:54
mebarancafuego, it is working ok06:54
PurpleMotioni mean wouldnt it make sense to be able to 'make player'???06:55
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mebaranmplayer works06:55
SighkickGood evening from NZ... is anyone able to help with a sound card problem?06:55
cefxAnyone know how I can find the hdd?06:55
mebaranbut I need libdvdcss to do anything06:55
crimsunSighkick: shoot06:55
cafuegomebaran: And if you want dvd or avi access, don't use amd64.06:55
mebarancafuego, it ALWAYS worked before06:55
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mebarancafuego, you dont know what you are talking about06:55
cafuegomebaran: You'll want a 32bit version then.06:55
cefxWhat do you mean, cafuego ?06:55
mebarana source compile works fine06:55
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mebaranmplayer v1.07pre works like a charm on my two boxes encoding and everything06:55
cafuegomebaran: I *RUN* amd64, mate. I know what DOES and DOES NOT work here.06:55
mebarancafuego, I ran amd6406:56
cefxcafuego, help me find this hard drive to mount it :P06:56
mebaranwhat is your problem06:56
Sighkickcrimsun, have tried to install 2 legacy ISA sound cards... no joy.  Is there anyway to get them to work easily or is it a mammoth compile driver task?06:56
mebaranin dvd06:56
cafuegomebaran: yeah, tarball installs is an altogether different issue.06:56
mebaranyeah06:56
cafuegomebaran: Locks up the box (hard)06:56
mebaranbut building an mplayer pkg is easy06:56
mebarancafuego, ah I got that a couple times06:56
mebaranI assumed it was heating issues .....06:56
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mebaransometiems it doesnt though06:57
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cefxWell some help everyone is. :(06:57
PurpleMotionmplayer homepage down for anyone else?06:57
mebaranisnt encoding supposed to be one of those things that 64 bits excels at?06:57
f_newtonif your software will accept it yes06:57
cafuegomebaran: yeah, as long as the encoders don't use ia32 ASM06:57
f_newtonlol06:57
mebarancafuego, ahhhhh06:57
cefxIs there ANY ONE that can help me?06:57
PurpleMotioncefx:  what are you on about?06:58
DekaPinkIf only I could make TMPGenc work... :306:58
mebaranthe havent ported mplayer yet from assembler06:58
mebaranor ffmpeg06:58
mebaranor ... anything?06:58
cefxPurpleMotion, I can't find my external HDD which is connected via USB in DMESG to mount it.06:58
cafuegomebaran: no idea, I do my recoding on win32.06:58
PurpleMotioncefx:  /dev/sda ?06:58
PurpleMotionshould be06:58
cefxchecking06:58
cefxHow can i check?06:58
mebarancafuego, bad bad man06:58
mebaranheheh06:58
PurpleMotioncefx: cat /var/log/messages | grep -i /dev/sd06:59
DekaPinkNow, to amuse everyone... the amusing ubuntu girl my friend found: http://www.wakachan.org/os/src/1122485798403.jpg06:59
cafuegomebaran: As long as Linux doesn't have decent GUI software to do it I won't be switching.06:59
PurpleMotionis the mplayer homepage down for anyone else?06:59
f_newtoncafuego, excuse me?06:59
mebaranacidrip is decent enough06:59
f_newtonlinux has great gui software for recording video06:59
mebarancafeugo, have you tried mythtv06:59
twystedhello im using ubuntu 5.04 and i cannot resolve domains, i have checked my nameservers and gateways, i am able to ping ips but not domains, and oddly i can still get updates/upgrades through apt and aptitude, any ideas?06:59
cefxnothing06:59
SighkickCrimsun: u still there?  ISA Sound Cards too much of a problem?06:59
mebaranthat is one of the few places linux HAS good gui06:59
mebaranSighkick, you still have an ISA snd card07:00
poningrutwysted: you sure its not your dns server?07:00
cafuegof_newton: As long as Linux doesn't have decent GUI software to transcode video/crearte DVDs I will keep using windows.07:00
mebarancafuego, it does07:00
crimsunSighkick: sorry, let me read07:00
mebaranfor transcoding at least07:00
twystedponingru: i have tried my isp07:00
mebaranacidrip is a very nice gui07:00
PurpleMotionDekaPink:  too bad parts of it are cutoff..... that would be an awesome splashy theme07:00
twystedand my inhouse dns07:00
poningrutwysted: have you tried resolving using another os?07:00
mebaranor dvdrip if you want to be a power user07:00
poningruyou have an inhouse dns?07:00
crimsunSighkick: which two cards?07:00
skalpelis there an app top unpack rar files that uses a gui?07:00
poningruwtf07:00
cafuegomebaran: What, with transcode as backend?07:00
Sighkickmebaran: yes, I was always under the impression that Linux was the way to keep older technology useful...07:00
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twystedponingru: im on windows xp right now and i can resolve and so can every other box in my house, but this one machine will not resolve using my isp's or my own dns servers07:01
DekaPinkPurpleMotion, Truly. :D07:01
poningruanyway how are you connecting?07:01
mebaranSighkick, Isa is prety old07:01
mebaranbut I am sure you can make it work07:01
Sighkickcrimsun, : I have tried an ESS1868F and a Creative Vibra 1607:01
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mebarando you know what kind of car itis07:01
SighkickBRB fone07:01
lJlolelthank you all!07:01
lJlolelexit07:01
mebarancafuego, no07:01
crimsunSighkick: which did you want to use?07:01
mebaranmencoder07:01
twystedponingru: dsl through a openbsd router07:01
mebaranwhich I find does a better job07:01
mebaranif you want transcode to backend it07:01
cafuegoDoes that produce decent non-jumpy video yet?07:01
esacis there a good guide for setting up QoS/traffic shaping ? I want to give priority to say ... ssh, squid, apache2, and then whatever is left over to say ... bittorrent downloads/uploads ..07:02
mebarancafuego, mine doesnt jump07:02
mebaranthen again I have an AMD6407:02
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mebaranso that might explain it07:02
cafuegomebaran: I do too.07:02
mebarannah07:02
mebaranmy TV recordings look clear enough07:02
cefxmebaran, me too :/07:02
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twystedhmmm07:02
cefxI'm starting to freak about not seeing the hdd.  Is USB or FireWire better for Ubuntu amd64?07:02
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mebarancafuego, I transcoded all of the works of Fellini at 1815 kbps07:03
mebaranthey look beautiful07:03
mebaranthe filters did a great job07:03
whitefangis dx9wine in the wine cvs source?07:03
mebaranand acidrip chugged them07:03
mebaranthe only problem was07:03
mebaranthat it locked up hard on occasion07:03
f_newtonthe funny thing for me cafuego is that I dont use my computer for tv entertainment purposes07:03
twystedcefx usb should be fine07:03
Sighkickcrimsun: I have tried the ESS1868F and it was not shown when I did a ispci07:03
mebaranand I guess it was because of the 32 bit ASM07:03
cafuegof_newton: I use it to procude DVDs from downloads07:03
mebaranI thought the cpu was getting hot as it would do the hot beeping stuffs07:04
Sighkickcrimsun, : the creative vibra 16 is now fitted (ISA)07:04
mebarancafuego, dvdauthor is decent07:04
mebaranand graveman I think can make dvd vids07:04
cafuegof_newton: .. so i can watch 'em on the DVD.07:04
mebaraneither than or gnomebaker07:04
Sighkicklet me try that command again... I dont know what it is, was just told to do it last nite..07:04
twystedponingru: any ideas?07:04
f_newtonyes cafuego I know what you use it for07:04
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pudlandhow do you switch to root? su?07:05
depravejesus these w32codecs are taking forever to download even on blazing fast AOL dialup!07:05
twystedpudland use sudo07:05
f_newtonI use my computer to make my work easier07:05
f_newtonI use my tv to put me to sleep07:05
cafuegof_newton: <heh>07:05
cafuegof_newton: I use books to put me to sleep.07:05
mebaranf_newton, but what if you were that comic character07:05
f_newtonand any old infomercial will do that07:05
mebaranLittle Abner07:05
mebaranwhat then ...07:05
cafuegof_newton: TV to switch my brain off whilst staying awake.07:05
f_newtonwell I aint but lil abner had daisy mae07:05
depravei use methadone07:06
mebarancould anyone help me manually make the drivers for my nvidia 6600GT07:06
f_newtonand that would help any man sleep well07:06
mebaranthe version in the repos is not recent enough07:06
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mebaranand I am getting a slew of weird errors07:06
pudlandtwysted: what usage?07:06
Sighkickcrimsun, : I tried that command (lspci) in a terminal window and there is no pnp isa card shown07:06
PurpleMotionhttp://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/887 <-- looks good, no??07:06
twystedpudland: sudo application07:06
twystedpudland: sudo apt-get update07:06
twysted:)07:06
mebaranarg07:07
mebaranwhy isnt my chvt07:07
mebaranworking07:07
pudlandim trying to get perms to install java07:07
cafuegomebaran: Are you using a 2.6.13-rcX kernel?07:08
mebarannot yet ...07:08
mebaranonly 2.6.1207:08
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Amaranthbreezy isn't going to have 2.6.1307:08
cafuegomebaran: The stock driver ought to work fine on that.07:08
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mebarancafuego, vesa works ok07:08
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mebaranit just is ugly and not clean07:08
cafuegoI think the ABI got changed in 2.6.13 (and that breaks nvidia)07:08
cefxK.  Still no luck with the hdd.07:08
pudlandsu07:08
PurpleMotion(totem:28410): GStreamer-WARNING **: element internal_thread claimed state-change success,but state didn't change to PLAYING. State is PAUSED (NONE_PENDING pending), fix the element07:08
PurpleMotionit plays in windows, damnit!07:09
twystedpudland use sudo sh javainstaller.bin07:09
weirdcreephow do i use ssh07:09
cefxCan someone please help me?07:09
Sighkickgidday fishy: whats the weather like over the pond?07:09
mebarancafuego, it wont let me dll it07:09
cafuegotwysted: NO!07:09
PurpleMotion!java07:09
ubotuhmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.07:09
mebaranbecause it the modules havent been fixed yet07:09
fishySighkick: I live in a house :(07:09
mebaranwhat is a good tool to encode in theora07:09
cafuegomebaran: dll whatnow?07:09
pudlandit says command not found07:09
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mebaranI wnat to get the propreitary nvidia driver07:09
mebaranbut as you might realize07:09
mebarantehy havent fixed restricted modules for the new kernel07:10
SighkickOh, so all aussies don't live in the bush then... silly me :)07:10
AmaranthPurpleMotion: what plays in windows?07:10
pudlandhold on07:10
pudlandlemme try again07:10
cafuegomebaran: want my /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel ?07:10
cafuegomebaran: works fine07:10
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PurpleMotionAmaranth:  all my mp4 videos play in windows just fine, but they dont play _at_all_ in linux under any player, and yes i have the right codecs and libraries installed07:10
AmaranthPurpleMotion: mp4 is encrypted with Apple's FairPlay DRM07:11
concept10PurpleMotion, have you tried VLC?07:11
cafuegopudland: "sudo apt-get install java-package". DO NOT run the command twysted gave you!07:11
PurpleMotionyup07:11
mebaranoh07:11
PurpleMotionsure have07:11
mebaranis it included?07:11
Amaranthconcept10, PurpleMotion: Nothing will play them.07:11
skalpelhow do i change my splash screen in ubuntu?07:11
mebarancafeugo, how do I get it07:11
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AmaranthPurpleMotion: This is why you don't buy music videos from iTunes. :)07:12
PurpleMotionAmaranth:  they play in windows just fine. and according to mplayer and gstreamer, they SHOULD be playing here as well07:12
cafuegomebaran: I copied it out of the linux-restricted-modules tree07:12
PurpleMotioni didnt, if you must know it's a movie, and i didnt buy it.. it's ummm gpl, yeah, thats it, gpl07:12
gpdsproingie: it was called xspringies and there is now jspringies :)07:12
mebaranhow come you dont have to force modprobe it07:12
AmaranthPurpleMotion: um07:12
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AmaranthPurpleMotion: if you've installed w32codecs install totem-xine too and try to play it with totem again07:13
mebaranI am just going to use the nvidia installer07:13
AmaranthPurpleMotion: if it doesn't work after that it won't at all07:13
Arkubuntuhi everyone07:13
PurpleMotionyup been there, done that, still dont work07:13
PurpleMotionheh07:13
amonkeyis it an asshole thing to do to hack people at a lan? cuz i thought it wasm pretty funny when his mouse started moving07:13
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cafuegomebaran: No idea. Do you want me to tar bz2 my source dir and put it online for you?07:13
PurpleMotionim recompiling mplayer from the pre7 source.. they say there are a few mpeg related fixes in it07:13
Arkubuntusomeone have installed jdk in ubuntu?07:14
concept10PurpleMotion, I have played mp4's with VLC07:14
mebarancafuego, how aobut you just even give me the binary module07:14
mebaranit should work07:14
PurpleMotionconcept10:  i hear ya, ppl have played them with xine, mplayer, and gstreamer as well07:14
mebaranwe are both using the same kernel07:14
mebaranon the same architecture07:14
PurpleMotionjust for whatever reason, they're not playing for _me_07:14
pudlandcafuego: it said couldnt fing java-package07:14
cafuegomebaran: Because my kernel is patched.07:14
SighkickAnyone able to offer a relatively painless solution to install a legacy ISA Creative Vibra 16 sound card please?  I have already seen www.alsa-project.org and it doesn't seem beginner friendly :(07:14
mebarancafuego, ahhhhh07:15
mebaranI think I will run the nvidia script07:15
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mebaranit isnt so bad07:15
cafuegopudland: You mgith need to enable the "universe" repository.07:15
mebaranchvt is not working on my breezy comp07:15
PurpleMotionSighkick:  if you're using ubuntu, chances are alsa is already installed and configured.. together with hotplug, all you should have to do is put the card in and go07:15
mebaranalt-ctrl f1 doesnt give me a terminal anymore07:15
Arkubuntui have a problem with the jdk setup07:15
Arkubuntuplease!! help!!07:15
lunitikArkubuntu, what is the issue?07:16
cafuegomebaran: Like I said before, breezy is broken.07:16
PurpleMotionArkubuntu:  watch ubotu07:16
PurpleMotion!java07:16
ubotuwell, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.07:16
mebaranTHAT broken07:16
mebaranwhat are they doing with chvt07:16
PurpleMotionfollow those directions, you can't go wrong07:16
mebaranhasnt that been the same forever07:16
Arkubuntui can't install jdk07:16
SighkickPurpleMotion, : been there, done that....it doesnt find the PnP ISA card... checked by running cmd lspci - its not listed07:16
Arkubuntua message appears.. like this07:16
pudlandcafuego: /etc/apt/?????07:16
PurpleMotionpnpisatools07:16
PurpleMotionhave phun07:16
lunitikcafuego, change 'multiverse' to 'extras' ... I forget the syntax...07:16
cafuegopudland: sources.list07:17
mebaranI am thinking of moving to gentoo07:17
mebaranexcept the frame buffer drivers in gentoo07:17
Sighkickok... how do I find pnpisatools pls?07:17
mebaranmake everything exceedingly dim07:17
concept10Sighkick, you want lspci to list a ISA card?07:17
twystedgentoo sucks honestly they break it ALOT07:17
mebarantwysted, argh!07:17
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PurpleMotioni think acutally it's isapnptools07:17
Gorthwhat's ubuntu's version of env-update07:17
cafuegomebaran: soemthing even more broken than breezy, congratiulations. </sarcasm>07:17
Arkubuntu"The installer is unable to run in graphical mode. Try running the installer with the -console or -silent flag."07:17
twystedits nice other then it being borked all the time :)07:17
lunitikmebaran, Gentoo offeres less software... and requires more maintainence... why would you want to do that?07:17
cafuegomebaran: Shoulda stuck with hoary.07:18
Arkubuntuthat's the message!07:18
Sighkickconcept10, : it was something someone suggested I did last night... I have no idea what the command means07:18
pudlandcafuego: how come su doesnt like my psswrd?07:18
Arkubuntuwhat can i do?07:18
PurpleMotionSighkick:  sudo apt-get install isapnptools07:18
cafuegopudland: sudo, not su07:18
Amaranthmebaran: chvt?07:18
f_newtonlist pci devices?07:18
Gorthenv-update doesn't exist??07:18
pudlandcafuego: sudo edit sources.list???07:18
twystedpudland: forget the command "su" use sudo for root privledges in a program07:18
mebaranAmaranth, it is the program that changes your screen07:18
pudlandcafuego: else read only07:18
Amaranthmebaran: err07:18
mebaranwhat you call when you push alt-ctrl-0f107:18
cafuegopudland: yes07:18
concept10Sighkick, try to find your hardware with the device manager07:18
Amaranthmebaran: ok, works here07:19
mebaranlets you have multiple cli07:19
mebaranI can call it from terminal07:19
Arkubuntuplease!! somebody help me!! i can't install jdk07:19
transgressscreen07:19
mebaranbut it doesnt ... work07:19
transgressmebaran: screen07:19
mebarantransgress, doesnt chvt call screen07:19
cafuegomebaran: http://www.cafuego.net/stuff/nvidia-kernel.tar.bz207:19
transgressiuno07:19
Sighkickconcept10, : i found the device manager but couldnt figure out how to make it LOOK again...07:19
Amaranthmebaran: multiple cli? you know ctrl-alt-f2 works, right?07:19
pudlandcafuego: im ubuntu newb.  too much FC. is sudo ubuntu specific?07:19
mebaranAmaranth, that is exactly what DOESNT work on my box07:19
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Amaranthpudland: no07:19
cafuegomebaran: next time you think going to a broken distro is clever, please reconsider.07:20
Arkubuntuduring the setup appears this message "The installer is unable to run in graphical mode. Try running the installer with the -console or -silent flag." why? i don't know!07:20
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mebarancafuego, hoary is more broken on my comp at least07:20
Amaranthmebaran: go back to hoary07:20
mebaranthe installer kernel panics07:20
mebaranthat is not a good sign07:20
Amaranthwow07:20
pudlandcafuego: hhhm, ok, new to me.  i'll try07:20
Razor-Xmebaran: you went to breezy?07:20
lunitikArkubuntu, wiki.ubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats ... install sun-j2sdk1.5 from extras07:20
mebaranRazor-X, yeah07:20
Amaranthmebaran: you must have some esoteric hardware :)07:20
mebaranno07:20
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Gorthguys my xmms won't run its configure because it says my glib is out of date07:20
mebaranthe most esoteric thing in my box07:20
Gorthbut i've used aptitude to update my glib like07:20
mebaranis a nvidia 660GT07:20
Gorth50 times07:20
cafuegohoary ia32 and amd64 work fine on mine.07:20
f_newtonis breezy in release?07:20
cafuegof_newton: No.07:20
sproingief_newton: no.  october07:20
mebaranproblem is the whole damn thing is pci express07:20
mebaranwhich I think confuses the kernel to no end07:21
f_newtonkewl...07:21
lunitikArkubuntu, you probably want sun-j2re1.5 though if you can't figure out that much...07:21
cafuegomebaran: No, it doesn't confuse the kernel.07:21
mebarancafuego, eh then I dont know07:21
mebaranI got breezy to install once by setting pci-express to legacy mode and switching it back on boot07:21
Arkubuntui have installed j2re07:21
mebaranI mean hoary07:21
mebaranbut it wouldnt create /dev/dsp for my Via Envy sndcard07:21
cafuegoPCI express is just agp with a rocket up its arse as far as the kernel is concerned07:22
Arkubuntui want the jdk07:22
mebaranit loaded the modules07:22
lunitikArkubuntu, then the plugin should be working...07:22
Sighkickconcept10, : the ISA Creative Vibra 16 sound card is not shown... let me run that apt get command07:22
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mebaranit did all that nice stuff07:22
Gorthconfigure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***07:22
Gorth:(07:22
lunitikArkubuntu, apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.507:22
Arkubuntuyes... the plugin is working.... but i can't install the jdk software07:22
cafuegoGorth: What are you compiling?07:22
mebaranif you have 32 bit asm in code07:22
Gorthxmms07:22
Arkubuntuok... waittt...07:22
cafuegoGorth: Why?07:22
mebaranhow does the processor deal with it07:22
Gorthfor music!07:22
mebaranwhen the kernel sends it on07:22
cafuegoGorth: apt-get install xmms07:22
Gorthah07:22
Gorththanks07:22
pudlandcafuego: what app used to edit sources.list?07:23
Dreumahhey i have a smart link 56k modem in my laptop is it supported, and how do i get it to work?07:23
cafuegopudland: Your favuorite editor.07:23
lunitikcafuego, maybe have him use Synaptic...07:23
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AmaranthDreumah: Is it a winmodem?07:23
Arkubuntu"packet not found"07:23
Gorthwhat's the difference between apt-get and aptitude07:23
cafuegolunitik: You do  it, I am about to runa way screaming and get committed...07:23
Dreumahwinmodem?07:23
Arkubuntuthere's a special deb line for apt?07:23
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bingobangoanyone have any trouble getting sound to work with nvidia nforce2?07:24
depraveDreumah : look at the modem, does it say lucent on the chips?07:24
Drauconanyone else have problems running gdesklets?07:24
lunitikArkubuntu, uhh... yes... thats why I directed you at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats... if you want help... you really ought to pay attention07:24
lunitikcafuego, haha07:24
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Dreumahit came with in the laptop, i cant look at the chips07:24
Arkubuntuthanks!07:24
lunitikcafuego, what do you want him to add?07:24
Dreumahits internal07:24
depraveDreumah : hmmmmmm07:25
Madeyeguys, I'm using my ADSL modem as router, How can i make my web server visible in this case?07:25
DekaPinkHuh... How can I make sure a port can be accessed? :307:25
depraveDreumah : try looking for a piece of software called ltmodem for ubuntu, and run that, that might help ya out07:25
twystedmadeye look at your adsl modems documentation and find out how to forward ports07:25
twystedor call your isp07:25
Dreumahbut i cant connect to the internet with my mashine in ubuntu... i am on win right now trying to get the better part of my laptop to work07:26
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PurpleMotiongmplayer: h264.c:2306: mc_dir_part: Assertion `pic->data[0] ' failed.07:26
PurpleMotionwtf does that mean07:26
depraveDreumah : download it, it fits on a floppy07:26
lunitikPurpleMotion, why are you using mplayer?07:26
DekaPinkTibia can't seem to access the internet. Heh.07:26
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pablo928Does anyone know of a simple flash site building app available for Ubuntu?07:26
SighkickPurpleMotion, : can't find the package isapnptools (or pnpisatools) anymore suggestions?07:27
Dreumahand then just run it and see what happens.. aight, thank you,  hopefully it works07:27
PurpleMotionEVERY player crashes that file with that EXACT same message. i'm just playing my options, now what does it mean?07:27
lunitikPurpleMotion, you have codecs installed?07:27
depravewhat would the apt-get activator be for java07:27
PurpleMotionSighkick:  the package is there... i dont know, check your repositories07:27
Drauconnoones running gdesklets?07:27
PurpleMotionman im not going through this every fucking time i get a little more info on this. ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT THE ERROR MEANS IN TECHNICAL TERMS07:28
lunitikdeprave, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  ... you need the extras repo there...07:28
PurpleMotionjesus christ07:28
depraveok thanks07:28
nomasteryodaDraucon, how to make gdesklets work?07:28
lunitikPurpleMotion, ^^07:28
benplaut!gdesklets07:28
ubotubenplaut: I don't know, could you explain it?07:28
lunitikdeprave, haha... that wasn't for you, so07:28
PurpleMotionsorry for the outburst, all07:28
lunitiksorry07:28
SighkickLOL... was going to answer that I didnt need suppositories...... ok where are my repostitories..on the Hdd or install cd?07:28
Drauconyeah when i installed it doesn't seem to be working07:28
benplauthow do you add something to ubotu?07:28
nomasteryodayea07:28
lunitik!info gdesklets07:29
ubotugdesklets: (an advanced architecture for desktop applets), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.34.3-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 358 kB, Installed size: 2104 kB07:29
nomasteryodanice ...kinda gui07:29
PurpleMotionYES, I have w32codecs installed, I ALSO have libfaad2 installed, as well and libdvdcss and whatever else you're going to ask me over and over. all i want to know is what the error MEANS.07:29
Draucon!info gdesklets07:29
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benplautwhy ask again?07:29
lunitikPurpleMotion, no idea...07:29
PurpleMotionheh, thats cool, i dunno either07:30
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PurpleMotioncryptic if ever there was an error message07:30
depravewow java is big!07:30
benplautcafuego: where can i find a list of commands to be used on blootbot?07:30
lunitikPurpleMotion, thus trying to figure it out...07:30
benplaut!blootbot07:30
ubotuI heard blootbot is see ubotu.07:30
benplaut:P07:30
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lunitik!info blootbot07:30
PurpleMotionlunitik:  yeah, good luck.. i been pulling my hair out over it for a week07:30
concept10PurpleMotion, I suggest you ask in the channel of the application your are using07:30
ubotublootbot: (a severely modified infobot for IRC), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.1.0-5.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 235 kB, Installed size: 936 kB07:30
benplaut!infobot07:30
ubotubenplaut: I give up, what is it?07:30
Razor-Xdeprave: did you think it was small? ;)07:30
benplaut!cafuego07:30
ubotubenplaut: I give up, what is it?07:30
benplautoh, come on :P07:30
lunitik!info infobot07:30
PurpleMotionconcept10:  screw it, i'll share it on samba and watch it downstairs on windows :D07:30
asdadd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso bs=102407:31
asdadd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error07:31
asda652+0 records in07:31
asda652+0 records out07:31
Drauconok so noone has any ideas07:31
twysted!nameserver07:31
asdahelp me pls07:31
ubotutwysted: Wish i knew07:31
concept10Stop playing with the bot07:31
lunitikhaha... no dpkg for infobot... boo07:31
depravewell i was hoping07:31
lunitikohh... cafuego, you still around?07:31
Razor-Xasda: dd doesen't output straight to iso07:31
orionhey rapists07:31
PurpleMotionhey orion07:31
PurpleMotionthat's my sons name07:31
PurpleMotionand the name of my former dalnet server07:31
PurpleMotionheh07:31
orionthis is my first time using ubuntuand im running apache07:32
Razor-XPurpleMotion: how old is your son?07:32
orionworking pretty well07:32
PurpleMotionRazor-X:  he'll be 9 in november07:32
concept10could someone tell me if they can access my site: http://ntarieo.ath.cx/apache2-default/public_html/mambo/07:32
depraveorion is old school!07:32
Razor-XPurpleMotion: i'm about 7 years his senior07:32
orionhow am i oldschool?07:32
whitefangwhere can i get live support for compiling wine cvs?07:32
lunitikconcept10, no07:32
Razor-Xwhitefang: #wine07:32
concept10lunitik, you cant?07:32
depravenot you, orion.dal.*07:32
lunitikconcept10, no, I can't... what you think I meant?07:33
whitefangthere's 1 person in #wine07:33
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PurpleMotionRazor-X:  right on... he was born 11/7/96, and orion.dal.net's predecessor, centurion.dal.net linked on 11/8/96, while i was still in the hospital, heh07:33
Razor-Xwhitefang: ask him for help ;)07:33
orion#apache07:33
PurpleMotioni went home and changed my motd to ITS A BOY07:33
PurpleMotionhehehe07:33
concept10lunitik, that was real fast thats all.07:33
Razor-XPurpleMotion: I wasborn on 5/9/90 ;)07:33
Razor-Xs/wasborn/was born/07:33
PurpleMotionmy anniversary is 5/4/9307:33
benplautwhitefang: try #winehq07:33
Razor-XI don't think i'll ever have the time to sysadmin something that large07:34
benplaut70 people07:34
depravejesus i need to get off irc for a while07:34
orionis there a channel for apache here?07:34
windex|asleepRazor-X, soon i will be able to say i have been on irc longer than other people have been alive.07:34
Razor-Xdeprave: yes, after a while, you'll forget that there are people who actually walk around and do stuff with their limbs07:34
benplautorion: try #apache07:34
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orionyeah ty benplaut07:34
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rgouldHow does one go about installing a custom font for Gnome?07:35
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Razor-Xwindex|asleep: and soon i'll be able to say that i'm the youngest maintainer on Ubuntu ;)07:35
lunitikrgould, apt-cache search ttf and apt-get install one...07:35
windex|asleepRazor-X, i'll go find a 9 year old in India to do it. Microsoft can, so can we.07:35
depravewell, if his kid is 9 years old, and i remember his server, that must mean *does the math, taking off his shoes* i need to leave!07:35
asdadd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso bs=102407:35
asdadd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error07:35
asda976+0 records in07:35
asda976+0 records out07:35
lunitikrgould, failing that... just throw the ttf files into /usr/share/fonts07:35
asdahi can help me guys07:35
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PurpleMotiondeprave:  hey, m8, that was my server :) twas a cyrix 6x86 166mhz clocked to 250 w/128mb 70ns edo ram, runing freebsd 2.something i think07:35
rgouldlunitik, just throwing the ttf into that directory will suffice?07:35
lunitikrgould, sure07:36
windex|asleepasda, ... are you trying to burn a cd?07:36
orionwhat types of server are u guys running?07:36
rgouldlunitik, damn, I had been messing with the X fonts directory :) Should I restart Gnome?07:36
Razor-Xdeprave: there's a whole world out there waiting for you to WAN hijack into ;)07:36
asdayes07:36
depraveyeah i remember, i was a locop on hebron.*07:36
asdai'm burn on comand line07:36
lunitikasda, use 'cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc --data file.iso'07:36
PurpleMotiondeprave:  i know with nobody logged in, that box had 13 running processes and held 2500 users :D07:36
asdaand the err like ta07:36
PurpleMotionwere you07:37
windex|asleepasda, what lunitik said. cdrecord should be able to figure out your drive settings.07:37
Razor-XI would love to sysadmin, but like I said, I doubt i'll ever have the time07:37
PurpleMotionyou were a regular in one of the help channels, no?07:37
depraveRazor-X : sheeeit i come to irc for sanctuary, i've seen the world in ways the average human does not07:37
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depraveyep07:37
depraveand you never offered an o:line, bastard07:37
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mebaran151any of you ever tried FreeBSD07:37
depravehaha07:37
depravejk07:37
Razor-Xdeprave: there are reasons I don't like the real world, reasons I won't elaborate here07:37
asdadoh07:37
PurpleMotionbah, you know how much i got hounded for o:lines??07:38
PurpleMotionheh07:38
lunitikmebaran151, sure07:38
asdai wanna copy cd to cd sir07:38
Arkubuntui tried freeBSD07:38
asdawhat command for tha07:38
asda?07:38
Arkubuntusome problem?07:38
Razor-Xewww, BSD07:38
asdapls help me sir07:38
PurpleMotionnot to mention i took on like 8 orphaned opers when the net went to shit07:38
Razor-Xi'm such a BSD hater, I refuse to ps aux07:38
lunitikasda, man mkisofs07:38
windex|asleepasda, you have two cdroms?07:38
asdanow07:38
PurpleMotionlol@Razor-X07:38
asdajust one07:38
mebaran151I am going to try something that MIGHT not panic07:38
depraveRazor-X : heh igot back from Iraq a year ago, i'm enjoying not doing anything right now07:38
mebaran151this rig is so nice07:38
lunitikRazor-X, Linux contains a lot of BSD code... please refrain from disrespecting it, thanks07:38
asdai must go to work no and don't have time for read man07:39
windex|asleepasda, you can actually use dd to make an iso image.07:39
depravePurpleMotion : yeah dalnet is complete crap07:39
lunitikRazor-X, BSD folks CREATES the interenet07:39
Razor-Xdeprave: ahhh, thanks for doing what most of us don't like to do ;)07:39
lunitikinternet*07:39
lunitikCREATED*07:39
asdayeah07:39
mebaran151actually I am going to build my own distro!07:39
rgouldlunitik, thanks - worked perfectly.07:39
mebaran151LFS07:39
lunitikwow... I can type07:39
Razor-Xlunitik: that was navy folks, actually07:39
asdai use dd and get err07:39
Razor-X;)07:39
mebaran151complete with unmake07:39
deprave<3 fbsd07:39
windex|asleepasda, but i have no idea why your command failed in that context07:39
orionas gw bush would say "Those Internets"07:39
ArkubuntuBSD is a very good O.S i use only BSD for a server07:39
mebaran151that will uninstall things that make07:39
asdadd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso bs=102407:39
asdadd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error07:39
asda1404+0 records in07:39
asda1404+0 records out07:39
asda1437696 bytes transferred in 54.320065 seconds (26467 bytes/sec)07:39
asdalike that07:39
windex|asleepasda, the cd maybe has copy protection?07:39
asdaso what's wrong07:39
Razor-XI just can't stand BSD, it gets me in a way few things do07:39
PurpleMotionyeah fbsd rocks for server stuff07:39
benplautorion: :P07:40
PurpleMotionit's the best in fact07:40
lunitikasda, stop flooding07:40
Razor-Xand that's why I don't even use ps aux07:40
PurpleMotionnext to irix07:40
orionone person got it, ty benplaut07:40
Razor-Xfor server stup, it's cool, but for desktop use.., meh07:40
PurpleMotionbut who can afford an sgi07:40
asdai'm not flood just paste07:40
twystedi run obsd for my router i like it alot07:40
benplaut:)07:40
asdaflood not like the07:40
lunitikRazor-X, BSD makes you think less than some Linux distro's...07:40
asdathat07:40
PurpleMotionhey orion07:40
Razor-Xasda: more than three lines of pasting is considered floodinrg07:40
PurpleMotionthat actually your name?07:40
Arkubuntuyes... BSD is just for a server... no for home use07:40
Razor-Xlunitik: so?07:40
orionoh, no man its my alias online07:40
Razor-XI like the amount of thinking I do on my ZSH command-line07:40
PurpleMotionheh07:40
twystedlunitik: agreed i dont really have to do anything to maintain it its neat07:40
PurpleMotionright on07:40
orion:)07:40
Arkubuntu*not...07:40
lunitikRazor-X, so, stop disrespecting one of the best projects around, thanks07:41
PurpleMotiondid u catch i said earlier, it's my sons name07:41
windex|asleepPurpleMotion, my name is really windex. really.07:41
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asdadd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso bs=1024 <== this command is correct ??07:41
Razor-Xlunitik: no, I won't07:41
PurpleMotionhe gets complimented on it all the time, heh07:41
orionyeah, thats pretty sweet name07:41
Razor-Xif I don't like something, I can express it07:41
orionoh, im sure07:41
depravei use fbsd for name/web/mail etc, linux for desktop operations. there's nothing in stone written one or the other07:41
Razor-Xsame as people hate on emacs, and the like07:41
AmaranthPurpleMotion: Is your real name Mr. Purple Motion? :P07:41
PurpleMotionlol07:41
lunitikRazor-X, so, because you didn't choose to read the documentation, and you are above learning... BSD automatically sucks?07:41
oriondude im running ubuntu on my shit hole emac right now!!!!07:41
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PurpleMotionno, but a simple /whois will reveal my real name07:41
lunitikRazor-X, because they don't embrace morons, it sucks?07:41
Razor-Xlunitik: who said I didn't read the documentation?07:41
AmaranthBSD is off-topic for this channel07:41
Amaranthand so are _any_ arguments about it07:42
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Razor-Xlunitik: did I say that anywhere?07:42
PurpleMotion.o(01:41:50): * [PurpleMotion]  (~jay@cpe-24-26-139-222.columbus.res.rr.com): Jason F. Aristide III07:42
ArkubuntuBSD don't sucks... i think that is better than linux...07:42
efigyidollo07:42
depravescrew x11 on fbsd07:42
AmaranthRazor-X, lunitik: ^07:42
asdaanyone can help me07:42
Amaranthdeprave: ^07:42
twystedasda apparently not07:42
f_newtonRazor-X, I fear I must jump in on the side of BSD a big reason we still have unix derivs today07:42
Amaranthf_newton: ^07:42
orionomfg stop argueing about bsd07:42
depraveAmaranth : what? carrot?07:42
f_newtonhmmm something tells me thats a warning of some kind07:42
windex|asleepvi vs emacs, bsd vs linux, religion vs not! today on #ubuntu? no.07:42
raDeonhow come my music is distorted at high volumes under linux07:42
Arkubuntuis just,... mmm BSD is not so good for desktop operations... you know... flash support, shockwave...07:42
Razor-Xdeprave: look up07:42
raDeonand not on windows07:42
gigaclonI find that when I hold down the alt button and drag it moves the window07:42
lunitikAmaranth, sorry... I didn't bring it up... didn't even touch on the subject till he disrespected it...07:43
Razor-Xwindex|asleep: meh ;)07:43
HrdwrBoBgigaclon: correct07:43
gigaclonis there a way to turn that off07:43
Razor-Xlunitik: it's dislike, not disrespect07:43
Razor-Xthose are two different things07:43
HrdwrBoBgigaclon: this is the feature that I can't live without07:43
Amaranthlunitik: Don't try to get the last word in, just drop it.07:43
HrdwrBoBgigaclon: why07:43
AmaranthRazor-X: You too.07:43
benplautdeprave: pretty much, stop talking about BSD07:43
depraveoh sorry Amaranth , i was peeing07:43
PurpleMotionPurpleMotion was one of the musicians in the demo group Future Crew.. He wrote the ScreamTracker software, which at the time, was by far and wide the best mod/s3m tracker in existance07:43
orionrofflecopter07:43
PurpleMotionhell, it might still be07:43
lunitikAmaranth, I am apologizing to you... not continuing the argument07:43
=== f_newton doesnt care... he's just glad he found a good replacement for fedora
efigyidolraDeon: probably because windows and linux have different maximum output settings, and linux is outputting a clipped wave?07:43
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orionis firetstarter a good firewall?07:44
benplautyup07:44
gigaclongriddlers.net uses the alt and drag motion in their java applet07:44
twystedyes07:44
benplautquite good07:44
f_newtonfirestarter is NOT a firewall07:44
concept10PurpleMotion, what platform?07:44
oriongoody07:44
efigyidolcan we please keep the BSD discussion out of the ubuntu chan?07:44
orionnot a firewall wtF?07:44
lunitikorion, it does its job... pretty decent07:44
f_newtonits an interface07:44
benplautit's a GUI for IPtables07:44
Razor-Xfirestarter is a simple frontend to iptables, no?07:44
Arkubuntuif macromedia develop a plugin for BSD, i will be surfing with BSD07:44
Amaranthyes07:44
f_newtonyes Razor-X07:44
twystedit does its job though either way07:44
orionfirestarter is also a song by prodigy but no one cares07:44
AmaranthArkubuntu: !07:44
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lunitikf_newton, its a GUI front end to configure iptables/netfilter ... close enough07:44
twystedwell im out guys thanks! :D07:44
orionhave fun07:44
lunitikArkubuntu, shut up about BSD07:44
Razor-Xorion: no, nobody does ;)07:44
PurpleMotionconcept10:  they started on amiga, then moved to x86... the demos they coded were for DOS, screamtracker was coded for DOS as well as for AmigaOS07:45
=== Amaranth looks at his opstick lovingly
eyequeueand prodigy was also...07:45
f_newtonwell ok... my sock is a foot and a shoe too07:45
orioncrazy07:45
orionnice one07:45
oriontouche07:45
efigyidoliptables is great!07:45
Arkubuntusorry man...07:45
concept10Amaranth, moderate dont show power, please.07:45
Razor-XI have too much on my ``List to learn'' already07:45
orionrofflecopter07:45
orionwith bbqsauce07:45
efigyidolcan someone please ask for help?07:45
f_newtonlol concept10 one of the perks of power is getting to use it07:46
lunitikconcept10, he showed no power... power would be kicking, banning, or quiting you07:46
Amaranthconcept10: This isn't a democracy, I do whatever it takes to keep things on track.07:46
lunitikquieting*07:46
benplautOK, how do i...07:46
orionconcept im getting the feeling they dont like you07:46
concept10PurpleMotion, Okay.  I though C=6407:46
benplauti'll think of something07:46
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raDeonefigyidol, so what are you saying?07:46
eyequeueefigyidol:  i'm hungry, but no food handy, help07:46
lunitikAmaranth, ps, how the hell you get to be an op  ;)07:46
orionuh oh!07:46
PurpleMotionnah,t hey were amiga07:46
f_newtonorion concept10 is a good linux dood from MY hood so....07:46
AmaranthI don't dislike anyone, I just don't like it when someone derails the channel with a BSD flame.07:46
raDeoni want my volume louder with it sounding good!07:46
efigyidoleyequeue: eat your keyboard!07:46
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PurpleMotionbut i think they might have done one or two c64 demos07:46
orionf_newton i know nothing about ubuntu, im suprised im able to host a website using apache lol07:47
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=== Razor-X got new headphones
concept10f_newton, What I mean is Just tell guys to stop arguing, no need to show power.  Thats my take.07:47
Razor-Xit's awesome, but it my music sound crappy ;)07:47
f_newtonorion until this morning I knew nothing about it either07:47
efigyidolraDeon: probably not possible, but you can try playing with different variations of pcm and master volume07:47
eyequeueefigyidol:  laptop, i'd probably get toxics in me too :)07:47
Amaranthlunitik: *shrug*07:47
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orioni raped a mongoose07:47
Amaranthlunitik: I hopped on #ubuntu-meeting once and asked and they told me I already was on.07:47
Amarantherr, one07:47
f_newtonyeah concept10 I know... but hey some days yer the spider some days yer the fly07:47
Razor-Xorion: ok.....07:47
orionlol07:47
concept10f_newton, heh07:48
lunitikAmaranth, hmm... I should try that  :P07:48
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orionrofflecopter07:48
concept10I guess im the fly today :)07:48
orionur the only one who got that razor07:48
Amaranthconcept10: The show of power is a threat to back up the words.07:48
orionoh noes07:48
orionthey killed kenny07:48
gigaclonso is there a way to turn off that functionally of alt-drag?07:48
efigyidoleyequeue: Hmmm, perhapps just lick it to take your mind off being hungry till something consumable comes near07:48
concept10Amaranth, I mean no offense07:48
lunitikorion, you're lucky this isn't #debian... you'd get flamed for that ('ur')07:48
Razor-Xwell, I guess, mongooses... ;)07:48
eyequeueefigyidol:  lol07:48
f_newtonIm the quiet kind of smash em with overpowering odds kinda person07:48
orionhahaha07:48
f_newtonmyself07:48
Razor-Xwoaha, thaat's crazy07:48
Razor-Xs/craazy/crazy/07:49
windex|asleepusing the term rofflecopter ought to incurr some kind of extreme mental anguish issued by a popup button on everyone elses machine who was forced to read it.07:49
Razor-Xanti netspeak rules?07:49
orioni say we all go into #debian and all talk with shortcuts like ur then07:49
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Razor-Xorion: I don't use shortcuts07:49
raDeoni want to know why it isn't possible for me to have as high volume under linux as windows07:49
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transgressefigyidol: yes07:49
Razor-XI learned quickly enough that abbreviations look bad, and make you sound stupid, and so I remedied my internet speech to reflect thus ;)07:49
f_newtonwell lunitik I am glad this is a derivative of debian but happy its not full of childish kids like the deb rooms are07:49
orionwindows is full of hookers07:49
Razor-Xbut, I and hybrid_goth are working on RINNS07:50
lunitikraDeon, turn your sound up?  (alsamixer and gnome volume manager)07:50
f_newtonwell... scratch that... apparently there ARE some07:50
Razor-XRINNS Is Not NetSpeak07:50
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raDeonit's actually good if i lower PCM a bit, but the volume control in XMMS controls PCM so i can't change the volume easily07:50
raDeonwhen listening to music07:50
benplauti'm a childish kid! :)07:50
raDeonjust PCM07:50
orionhow old are u guys?07:50
raDeonvery irritating07:50
concept10Amaranth, what I mean is warn the person, if they persist, then just wrap the tape around the mouth (mute)07:50
lunitikf_newton, I was joking... I was a regular there for more than 3 years07:50
efigyidolorion: I think thats hooks07:50
benplautjust barely a teen07:50
Razor-Xa more effecient alternative to netspeak that will come with a client-side parser, so that speech is human-readable, plus it's actually effecient to abbreviate07:50
Amaranthconcept10: That's not my style.07:50
Razor-Xi'm 15, here07:50
orionbenplaut same here07:50
f_newtonwell all that aside I wont hold it against you lunitik `07:50
f_newtonlol07:50
orionrazor same here07:50
lunitikf_newton, haha07:50
efigyidolraDeon:  try playing with different variations of pcm and master volume07:51
Amaranthconcept10: My bark is worse than my bite, I'd rather show power and get them to comply than force them to comply with a +q07:51
Razor-Xmost of my frinds are ``OMG R U THR?!'' ;)07:51
Razor-Xit sounds odd to them the way I talk07:51
f_newtondebianites are worse then slackwareonians07:51
benplautuuhhgg07:51
concept10Amaranth, Okay.  Thats cool.07:51
lunitikAmaranth, softy  :D07:51
orionthat is sad razor-x07:51
Razor-Xf_newton: are we Ubuntians?07:51
=== benplaut has to go do the dishes :(
Razor-X(like Martians, Ubuntians)07:51
orionim a ubuntian!07:51
depravei'm more of an ubunghole07:51
Amaranth/mode #ubuntu +b *!*@*07:51
orionnice one07:51
Amarantherr, oops07:51
concept10benplaut, use dishwasher07:51
Madpiloti thought it was Ubuntite?07:52
f_newtonIm a fedorian tired of the constant breakage of a great os by meddling argumentative dev teams07:52
lunitikAmaranth, yeah, oops... heh07:52
Razor-XUbuntian sounds better07:52
orioni thought it was San Diegon07:52
benplautsupposedly doing them by hand is good for me :(07:52
concept10f_newton, true statement07:52
f_newtonyeah07:52
eyequeuelilo glined the network that way one day07:52
Madpilotbenplaut: it's character building.07:52
efigyidolHow about Ubbydubbies?07:52
f_newtonand it was by accident that I chose to download ubuntu07:52
f_newtonthe name was keeping me away07:53
orionim a newbie knowing nothing about linux07:53
f_newtonbut the review said debian based07:53
Razor-XIRC has the side effect that tab-completion, and IRC style quoting is so reflexive, it carries over to PMs and IM/personal situations07:53
efigyidolWe could have Ubuntitians07:53
f_newtonand thats enough for me07:53
concept10lol @ character building with soapy hands07:53
cafuegoUbunwegians07:53
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Razor-XUbunscists07:53
Sighkickconcept10 & PurpleMotion : I have tried to install isapnptools but apt-get can't find it.  It was suggested I look in the repository, which would be excellent if I knew where the repository was.  Is there anyone here that is not soley Plug 'n Play and can help a linux newbie in plain English?07:53
orioncafuego comes out of now where with the Ubunwegians07:53
Razor-Xthat sounds so cool ;)07:53
efigyidolUbians?07:53
concept10Razor-X, you too?  I try to tab complete other words07:53
eyequeueRazor-X:  i'd probably attempt it on a typewriter07:53
AmaranthRazor-X: Aye, I often use this style when in a PM with someone. :)07:53
Razor-Xconcept10: hell yeah, after shell tab completion07:54
Razor-XI just quoted someone I was talking to in a PM07:54
Razor-Xand yeah, meh07:54
Razor-X /me is totally reflexive07:54
efigyidolUbiuns07:54
MadpilotI was trying tab-complete while editing the Ubuntu wiki early today - no, it doesn't work there...07:54
efigyidolUbuntans07:54
AmaranthRazor-X: gaim supports /me07:54
Razor-XI like Ubuncists07:54
=== lunitik pleads guilty to using tab in private discussions before also :)
eyequeueyeah, i use /me midsentence too07:54
raDeonhow do i use file transfers with GAIM07:54
AmaranthRazor-X: in msn, aim, etc i mean07:54
raDeonGaim07:54
Razor-XAmaranth: so does nAIM, but in nAIM, the receiver doesen't see it07:54
MadpilotUbuntuians07:54
lunitikMadpilot, that should so be a bug  :P07:54
efigyidolRazor-X: reminds me of cancer07:54
concept10Razor-X, I wish tab complete could know my thoughts .. would save alot of keyboard banging07:54
eyequeueas a manner of speech07:54
orionUbunscists is catchy got a ring to it07:54
Razor-Xefigyidol: it is more contagious07:55
f_newton yeah gaim07:55
Razor-Xconcept10: yeah ;)07:55
cafuegolike Fascists07:55
f_newtonbut xchat for irc07:55
efigyidollol07:55
Razor-Xcafuego: exactly07:55
Razor-X;)07:55
eyequeueefigyidol:  cancer?07:55
bluefoxicyhttp://data.4chan.org/b/src/1122959969096.jpg  XD07:55
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Madpilotcafuego: :) not the image we want, I think...07:55
Razor-XUbunscists!07:55
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efigyidoleyequeue: Ubuncists07:55
lunitikcafuego, hey, you have the code for ubotu posted anywhere?07:55
weirdcreepim gay07:55
eyequeueefigyidol: ahh07:55
cafuegoMadpilot: Do NOT contradict your leader!07:55
Razor-XMadpilot: I'm a totalitarian liberal believer ;)07:55
f_newtonwhats the usual flags for unpacking bz2 files?  I keep forgetting that07:55
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lunitikcafuego, blootbot on its own is buggy for me  :(07:55
=== cafuego puts Madpilot against the wall
Razor-Xthis is a messed up oligarchy anyways, fascism isn't too bad ;)07:55
efigyidollol@weirdcreep07:56
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concept10!info isapnptools07:56
ubotuisapnptools: (ISA Plug-And-Play configuration utilities.), section universe/base, is extra. Version: 1.26-5 (hoary), Packaged size: 115 kB, Installed size: 272 kB07:56
=== Madpilot climbs the wall
efigyidoltiming is everything07:56
=== Razor-X ducks behind the shelves
cafuegolunitik: Indded, you need the cvs one and make it do a mysql_ping every now and then.07:56
weirdcreepi dont bind07:56
weirdcreepmind07:56
Razor-Xdon't hit me Mr. Mods!07:56
orion hoary, what is that supposed to imply, when i saw that i was like damn i need this07:56
Sighkickk ..07:56
Razor-Xweirdcreep: well, I do bind07:56
Razor-X;)07:56
orionhoary = whorey?07:56
weirdcreeplol07:56
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Razor-Xmy emacs is full of binds and shortcuts07:56
brokenboxhaha07:56
f_newtonhmm that bot is handy07:56
brokenboxwhorey07:56
Razor-Xif I go to another computer, the effeciency gap is crippling07:56
concept10Sighkick, update your repos07:56
f_newtonyeah I gotz a gf a bit whorey07:56
orionoh noes07:56
Razor-Xespecially if I can't switch to Dvorak07:56
f_newtonand man is she fun07:56
lunitikcafuego, all in the docs?  I know I was kinda rushing through the docs when I last tried to configure one...07:56
orionlol @ f_newton07:56
f_newtonwhoooohoooo!07:56
Razor-Xthen I can only do about 32 WPM07:57
brokenboxhey speaking of whores, anyone else have the problem where kaffeine crashes firefox all the time?07:57
oriononly 32wpm07:57
Razor-Xbrokenbox: yeah, that's whoreish ;)07:57
orionwow that is no good07:57
orion32wpm is nothing i mean that sucks total balls07:57
Razor-Xorion: on QWERTY, yes07:57
=== f_newton wont use an os based with kde
Sighkickconcept10, : I installed ubuntu yesterday and installed 90 megs of updates...is there more?07:57
Razor-XDvorak, I can strum at 120 WPM max, a constant 100 WPM07:57
=== f_newton wont use kde
Sighkickand how do I do it?07:57
efigyidolRazor-X I read somwhere that Devorak is actually not the fastest.07:57
Amaranthon QWERTY i push 80 when i'm doing good07:57
=== f_newton doesnt like kde at all
Razor-Xefigyidol: what's the fastest?07:57
concept10!repositories07:57
lunitikRazor-X, so why would you use WERTY?07:57
uboturumour has it, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos07:57
orionon qwertyuiop i can rape at around 250 wpm07:58
efigyidolRazor-X something with all the bits in the right place.07:58
Amaranthdvorak is fastest but only if you never use someone else's system07:58
f_newtonyou betcha Sighkick07:58
Razor-Xlunitik: if I was stuck on a QWERTY box, that's what I do07:58
Razor-Xorion: i'll bet I can type ``aoeu id htns'' faster than you can ;)07:58
Amaranthswitching between dvorak and qwerty has been shown to make you type slower with both07:58
concept10Sighkick, there you go.  and yes there are updates every now and then.07:58
Sighkickf-newton Ok.. so let me try and find the updates again..07:58
orionaoeu id htns07:58
orionhuh07:58
Amaranthaoeuidhtns07:58
Razor-XAmaranth: on most systems, I find that I can switch to Dvorak no problem07:58
orionaoe id htns07:58
orion??07:58
orionwtF?07:58
orionwtflus07:58
orionwtfluxlamobbqsauce!?!?!?07:59
cafuegousing dvorak has been shown to make you a fashion victim, too07:59
Razor-Xorion: that's the Dvorak home row07:59
oriondvorak wtf?07:59
Amaranthaoeui dhtns is the dvorak home row07:59
Amaranthyeah07:59
deprave!security07:59
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, deprave07:59
brokenboxor can anyone recommend a media player that works well with firefox and wont crash the shit out of it?07:59
Razor-Xbut, once I was configuring nVidia drivers for a frinde's X-less box07:59
f_newtondang my firefox just crashed07:59
Amaranthbrokenbox: Language.07:59
=== deprave slaps ubotu around with a plushy bin laden
f_newtonthat is a bad sign07:59
deprave!tell deprave about security07:59
Amaranthbrokenbox: try mplayer07:59
Razor-Xand I didn't really want to go through the pains of switching  keyboard layouts without xkb stuff07:59
concept10brokenbox, totem-xine07:59
Sighkickonly new updates are gzip and unzip...loading them now :(07:59
orionif firefox crashes wow ur shitzoed07:59
orioni use toem07:59
Amaranthconcept10: that's breezy07:59
oriontotem07:59
oriontotem rapes ur totem08:00
Razor-Xi'm actually on Windows right now08:00
concept10Amaranth, huh?08:00
orioni would have to concur08:00
brokenboxhaha08:00
Razor-XSSHing into a box which I can use if I'm stuck in these positions08:00
depraveare there any security issues with ubuntu and is there a security mailing list i can subscribe to?08:00
AmaranthSighkick: hoary is stable, no more updates except security ones08:00
orionim on linux and 3 windows sytems right now08:00
Razor-Xit has everything I need -- emacs, and LaTeX ;)08:00
Razor-X(everything I need for a portable system, rather)08:00
orionlatex!?!?! wow windows is fulll of hookers08:00
Amaranthconcept10: the totem mozilla plugin isn't in hoary08:00
Razor-Xorion: notice the capitalization08:00
Razor-XLaTeX > j00 ;)08:01
orionSSSSSSHHHHHH!08:01
Razor-Xand no, not the material LaTeX08:01
Razor-Xorion: yes, i'm using SSH ;)08:01
cafuegodeprave: yes, ubuntu-security-announce@lists.ubuntu.com08:01
orioni know08:01
Amaranthorion: it's a TeX editor08:01
orionsweet jesus08:01
brokenboxmplayer have a good plugin for firefox?08:01
Amaranthorion: for linux08:01
orionok08:01
Amaranthbrokenbox: no controls, it just plays08:01
orionwhat is SSH>08:01
orion?08:01
Razor-XAmaranth: I doubt he'ld know what a TeX editor is08:01
concept10Amaranth, oh, I made a mistake, I meant mozilla-mpayer08:01
weirdcreephow do i install my webcam08:01
Razor-Xorion: Secure Shell08:01
cafuegodeprave: There may be a typo there; evolution is being retarded.. check the website to be sure.08:01
SighkickAmaranth, : I have version 5.04 ...isnt that hoary ?08:01
orionwhat do you do with SSH?08:01
AmaranthSighkick: yes08:01
Razor-Xit allows you to access the command prompt of a remote box through a secure connection08:01
orionversion 5.04 is WHOREY08:01
Razor-Xand a whole lot of other things08:01
orionoh ok08:01
orionthats cool i guess08:02
Sighkickwell I have that and its up to date 100%08:02
Razor-X(like tunneling connections)08:02
cafuegoorion: Please eat your ritalin now.08:02
AmaranthSighkick: no more updates unless it's for security08:02
concept10I found this great extension in firefox that allows you to choose your video player for embedded video08:02
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basithey, anyone using 2.6.12?08:02
Razor-X(which is very useful in situations where you want desktop access, and VLC is too slow, use XDMCP, and tunnel through SSH)08:02
cafuegobasit: yes08:02
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orioni dont use ritalin, thank you very much, that was a measly insult if meant to be one08:02
Razor-Xs/VLC/VNC/08:02
Amaranthbasit: on breezy, yes08:02
lorenhey, what's up with ubuntu08:02
Sighkickok.. so where do I find this isapnptools to get my isa sound card to work?08:02
Razor-XI always get the two confused, guh08:02
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brokenboxwhat plugin is that concept10?08:02
basitAmaranth, how 'd i update to breezy?08:02
bur[n] erbasit: don't do it, X is b0rked08:02
Amaranthbasit: You don't if you enjoy using X.08:02
Razor-Xand yes, I don't use ``lol'' either, most of my stuff constitutes of sounds that can be  imitated in the throat08:02
deprave!tell deprave about rosetta08:02
Razor-Xin Breezy, X is totally messed up08:03
depraveuseless bot08:03
cafuegoorion: it was not supposed to be an insult, mate.08:03
=== bur[n] er can't even get breezy to a console with ctrl+alt+f2 anymore
orionroffle can be imitated in the throat08:03
basitHmm08:03
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SighkickAmaranth: ok.. so where do I find this isapnptools to get my isa sound card to work?08:03
basitthen what good it is ;-)08:03
Razor-Xbur[n] er: how does it feel to be using the last name of a Supreme Court ex-nominee?08:03
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cafuegoorion: I was hoping it was your excuse.08:03
AmaranthSighkick: never heard of it08:03
concept10brokenbox, its called Media player connectivity08:03
Razor-Xit just makes me feel kind of weird ;)08:03
orionoh no cafuego im just having fun laughing at hardcore linux users08:03
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Razor-Xorion: like me? ;)08:03
=== Sighkick *pulls* hair out and swears under breath...
orion:)08:04
cafuegoorion: ... because you appear to only be trolling.08:04
Razor-XWindows gives me headaches, so, yeah08:04
brokenboxwhere can i find Media player connectivity concept10?08:04
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AmaranthNo more.08:04
cafuegoAmaranth: thankyou!08:04
Razor-Xahh, woops there08:04
Amaranthcafuego: You're at fault too.08:04
Razor-Xorion: rofl my waffle08:04
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concept10brokenbox, let me find the link08:04
SighkickOh god...you get jerks in here too...08:04
MadpilotStealth Mods - just when you thought it was safe to troll #ubuntu... <cue Jaws theme />08:04
Amaranth15 minute timeout.08:05
f_newtonSighkick, just kids mostly08:05
AmaranthIf you're good you can have milk and cookies later.08:05
concept10brokenbox, https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=446  ALL FIREFOX USERS CHECK THIS EXTENSION08:05
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brokenboxawesome, thanks concept1008:05
f_newtonlinux is path of choice for techno kiddies not wanting to accept the status quo08:06
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Amaranth...08:06
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AmaranthI'm getting sick of everyone trolling and flaming. Is it a full moon or something?08:06
concept10heh08:06
efigyidolf_newton: I use linux because it does stuff08:06
Amaranthefigyidol: Just don't.08:06
SighkickAmaranth:  I am trying to get a Creative PnP ISA Vibra 16 sound card to go.  I don't know my way around linux yet, but am not entirely hopeless.  I have tried the cmd lspci and my isa card is NOT shown.  Device Manager doesnt show it and I have no idea how to search for new hardware... can u help?08:06
AmaranthPlease.08:06
GudyUbuntuSi, sorry to bother, but is there some traceroute / tracert in ubuntu?08:06
basitkubunt isn't updated to 3.4.2 yet?08:07
AmaranthSighkick: lspci is for pci devices :)08:07
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AmaranthSighkick: I dunno, I haven't used ISA since 1997 or so.08:07
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norhtedhi everyone, my creative 4+1 speaker system is working like normal 2-speaker. how can i enable it's full strength?08:07
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SighkickAmaranth, : so someone was trying to help but obviously not a guru08:07
brokenboxdarn, its saying i dont have the newest ubuntu version of firefox. update manager wont let me retreive it08:07
cafuegoAmaranth: I cany speak for others, but I have singlehandedly had enough coffee to keep all of Finland awake for 3 weeks ;-)08:07
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efigyidolSighkick: have you compiled a kernel before?08:08
Razor-Xwhat did I do wrong?08:08
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AmaranthRazor-X: It's done. Please just stop.08:08
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poningruis there a folding ubuntu team?08:08
Razor-XAmaranth: well, I would like to know for future reference08:08
concept10Sighkick, sorry, Im not a guru, just a moronic figurine - Seriously, what is the problem.08:08
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basit3.4.2 breaks packages08:09
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SighkickAmaranth : so, do you suggest I give up or go the hard route and go to www.alsa-project.org?  No...never compiled anything other than basic and C about a million years ago08:09
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AmaranthSighkick: *shrug*, i have no idea08:09
cafuegohowto: being on irc as root is not a good idea.08:09
Razor-XSighkick: I don't think compiling ALSA will get you anything08:09
brokenboxmy /usr/src is showing like 4 different kernel sources, can i just remove all except for what im running?08:10
dvmgreeting, I'd like to install flash, in 5.04. I've searched for it through Synaptic, but no luck. Do I need to add any repositories?08:10
SighkickRazor-X, : they do have sound card drivers and found one for the other card I have ESS1868F... but didnt know how to proceed08:10
Razor-XSighkick: is it an ALSA patch, or Kernel patch or something?08:10
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efigyidolSighkick: have you looked on google?08:10
Razor-XI mean, do you know?08:10
Madpilotdvm: easiest way for me was thru Macromedia's website- they have a Linux Flash download08:10
transgressbrokenbox: yes but use aptitude to remove them08:10
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Razor-XAmaranth: really, I would like to know what I did wrong so that I do not repeat the mistake again08:11
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brokenboxtransgress, cool thanks,  Yeah i heard that aptitude is the only way to remove anything?08:11
Amaranthyay!08:11
bob2BSD is off-topic.  #ubuntu-offtopic.08:11
brokenboxproperly at least08:11
dvmyeah, I've found a site that says to add this repository: ## Backports08:11
dvmdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted08:11
dvmdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted08:11
transgressdvm:  you need to add the multiverse repo08:11
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AmaranthRazor-X: arguing with orion08:11
Madpilot!flash08:11
ubotufrom memory, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:11
Sighkickefigyidol, : not yet... will use my DQSD search on XP...    hey does that install on linux?08:11
AmaranthRazor-X: and making fun of him after he got +q'ed08:11
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Razor-Xbrokenbox: it is, because when you remove something using aptitude, you remove the packages that stem off08:11
Madpilotdvm: see the URL that ubotu just posted, too08:11
dvmso this is a known good repository?08:11
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Razor-XAmaranth: I never made fun of him08:12
transgressbrokenbox: no that's not true... you can use apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, and dpkg... and rm... but aptitude keeps better track of shit08:12
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efigyidolSighkick: http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&q=vibra16+isa+howto&btnG=Search08:12
Sighkickcheers efigyidol08:12
Razor-XI said ``rofl my waffle'' a funny quote from a friend because he used ``rofl' modifications08:12
GudyUbuntuanyone about my traceroute question ?08:12
efigyidolSighkick: it's usually faster doing it yourself. Some purists might say that part of the fun of linux is figuring it out for yourself.08:12
Razor-Xs/<\'\>/''/08:12
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norhtedis there anyone who uses 4+1 speakers in ubuntu?08:13
Dr_Willisnorhted,  yes.08:13
Dr_Willissound blaster audigy08:13
Amaranth4.1 surround sound?08:13
Sighkickefigyidol, : yeah, I agree... was so impressed that ubuntu picked up my network and router, usb drive, nic etc...08:13
norhtedDr_Willis: great. i am using creative 440008:13
norhtedDr_Willis: however only front 2 is working :(08:14
Dr_Willisyou got to twiddle with the mixers i belive.08:14
efigyidolSighkick, try learning debian (especially if you've never used linux before)08:14
crimsunnorhted: have you adjusted Surround, Center, and LFE?08:14
norhtedAmaranth : yes08:14
Dr_Willisinstall some of the other mixers also..08:14
Dr_Willisi tend to use the console based alsamixer.08:14
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Sighkickefigyidol, : but I wondered how the Linux for Humanity would cope with none techno types trying to use older computers?08:15
norhtedDr_Willis: i am also using alsamixer, and08:15
efigyidolSighkick: I suspect that the older computers part won't be a problem.08:15
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norhtedDr_Willis: i can see sblive as my sound card08:16
Sighkickefigyidol: well I have proven that older sound cards will not be recognised...08:16
crimsunSighkick: eh?08:16
norhtedcrimsun: what do you mean by adjusting?08:16
kestasanyone know how to use gdb here?08:16
crimsunSighkick: did you load snd-sb16?08:16
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crimsunnorhted: unmuting and/or increasing their levels08:17
kestasI need to take a look at the stack segment, but cant find the gdb command to do it08:17
norhtedcrimsun: yes i did that08:17
norhtedcrimsun: however both bass and rear 2 is not working08:17
bob2kestas: ie the value of ESP?08:17
kestasbob2: Id like to get a look at the whole thing if possibly08:17
depravebob2: hi08:17
kestasthe whole segment up until the value of ESP08:18
depravehi bob!08:18
deprave=D08:18
kestasor rather down until the value of ESP08:18
bob2deprave: hi08:18
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bob2kestas: help registers?08:18
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norhtedDr_Willis: can you use your speakers surround effect (i mean all of satelites)08:19
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Sighkickcrimsun, : sorry?  I just caught your comment... where /how do I load snd-sb16?08:19
kestasbob2: well the stack isnt stored in registers08:19
Dr_Willisnorhted,  yes. :P with the right programs.08:19
Dr_Willisnorhted,  or ya can mirror the front to the back08:19
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norhtedDr_Willis: which is the right program?08:19
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Dr_Willisnorhted,  well for full 5.1 ya need somthing that knows what 5.1 is :P ie: xmms or similer..08:20
crimsunSighkick: in a terminal, presuming you have the Vibra installed, type: sudo modprobe snd_sb1608:20
efigyidolSighkick: I've had one of those running before, it was a while ago, just look at the documentation in that google search I gave you, if you don't understand something, search for that until you do. and keep going - I garuntee you will understand something when you're done ;-)08:20
Dr_Willisi just normally set the rear to mirror the front08:20
GudyUbuntuI found out why traceroute wasn't the right command, it's because it wasn't installed ... no idea why it's not with the default package ...08:20
Sighkickcrimsun : now we're cookin' ... brb08:21
floppyearshi08:21
norhtedDr_Willis: but there is no option in XMMS to tell that i am using 4+108:21
floppyearsI'm getting an access denied on my ~/public_html folder08:21
floppyearsthe permisions of the folder are 75508:21
cafuegofloppyears: What are the perms on it?08:21
cafuegofloppyears: Whata re the perms on ~ ?08:21
Sighkickefigyidol : I will learn it all in good time... but this is only day one :)08:21
AvatarofVirgoHow long does it take to get ubuntu cd's?08:21
floppyearsdrwxr-xr-x  12 jose jose 4.0K Jul 23 02:38 /home/jose/public_html/08:21
crimsunnorhted: there is if you use ALSA directly and not esd08:21
transgressany beagle users in here?08:22
floppyearsdrwxr-x---  189 jose jose 12K Aug  1 23:17 /home/jose08:22
cafuegofloppyears: ~ should be 711 at *least*08:22
norhtedcrimsun: ok, go on08:22
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transgressAvatarofVirgo: it's not ... quick... to say the least08:22
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transgresslok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!08:22
transgressi don't know you08:22
cafuegofloppyears: yeah, missing a 001 there08:22
crimsunnorhted: for instance, if you use the ALSA output, specify the plug:surround40 device in the configuration.08:22
SighkickAvatarofVirgo, : took 6 weeks to get mine, but I am in the antipodes...08:22
floppyearscafuego: thanks08:22
cafuegofloppyears: if you don't  have o=x set, apache can't cd into it and access public_html08:22
AvatarofVirgoMight be quicker to download it, even with my dialup.08:22
brokenboxwow this sucks, i used aptitude to remove the kernel sources and install the newest firefox and it told me it was removing kdebase and kdecore08:23
bob2AvatarofVirgo: on the order of weeks08:23
floppyearscafuego: thanks a lot that worked08:23
norhtedcrimsun: and from where i can edit configuration for alsa?08:23
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crimsunnorhted: in the preferences08:23
cafuegofloppyears: no, gald to be  of non-troll service.08:23
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floppyearsI forgot to check my ~ permissions08:23
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x_orWhat command line software is there to do batch image resizing?08:23
floppyearscafuego: why does it work with the 001, I thought that it required 00508:23
AvatarofVirgoI guess I'll have to put up with suse for a few weeks longer.08:24
norhtedcrimsun: hmm i am activating the alsamixer screen by writing alsamixer to the command line08:24
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crimsunnorhted: no, this is within XMMS.08:24
cafuegofloppyears: apache only needs x, not read on ~08:24
norhtedcrimsun: hmmm i see08:24
dvmok, got it! thanks everyone :)08:24
norhtedcrimsun: trying08:24
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cafuegofloppyears: it's only accessign soemthing _under_ ~, not files IN ~08:24
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shaymhello08:25
shaymis there one issue to locales under X08:25
AvatarofVirgoDoes it have a pretty graphic when it's booting up?  Just wondering, not a big deal.08:25
floppyearscafuego: hmm, I guess my foundations on permissions are wrong :(08:26
shaymi haven't the same locale configured under console mode and X/Gnome08:26
shaymlocales are well configured under console mode via dpkg-reconfigure locales08:26
cafuegofloppyears: r is only needed if accessing a file in that dir; apache is just passing through ~ on the way to public_html, so x suffices.... basically.08:26
Sighkickcrimsun :  FATAL: Error inserting snd_sb16........No such device... etc :(08:26
f_newtonhey autopsy went to bed eh?08:26
crimsunSighkick: which sound card is installeD?08:27
cafuegoAvatarofVirgo: Nope, but you could always add one.08:27
Sighkickcrimsun : creative sb1608:27
AvatarofVirgoAnd what's the partitioning like?  I have two hard drives, the 1st one has windows and suse on it and the second I have set as /home.  Can I install ubuntu over my suse partition and have it use /home?08:27
crimsunSighkick: is plug n' play enabled?08:27
norhtedcrimsun: from preferences window i selected ALSA 1.2.10 output plugin (libALSA.so)08:27
cafuegoAvatarofVirgo: yep08:27
SighkickI have a box full of old ISA cards...08:27
norhtedcrimsun: from there i select configure08:27
crimsunnorhted: and enter the correct device in the device box.08:27
AvatarofVirgoDoes use the resier (or how ever you spell it) file system?08:28
cafuegoAvatarofVirgo: it has an ncurses based frontend, pretty easy to tell it to use the suse aprt as /, format it, then mount /home on /home (and don't format)08:28
Sighkickthink so... maybe I search thru my box for a more recent one...08:28
cafuegoAvatarofVirgo: it CAN use reiser, but sane people don't.08:28
norhtedcrimsun: and i selected SoundBlasterLive08:28
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AvatarofVirgoWhat's wrong with it?08:28
Sighkickcrimsun, : sorry, will have to shut down to check ...08:28
crimsunnorhted: no. You're supposed to change it.08:28
cafuegoAvatarofVirgo: nowhere near as stable as ext308:28
AvatarofVirgoOther then stable what are the other differances, I don't know that much about file systems.08:29
AvatarofVirgo?08:29
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PhuzionHey, I have a question about screem, and compiling it.08:29
SighkickHey guys:  I think I will quit for the evening, its dinner time here in kiwi land.  Will check that Linux Sound Howto website....08:29
cafuegoAvatarofVirgo: different design; but what you want in a filesystem is stability, trust me :-)08:30
Sighkickbut.. b4 I go, can anyone tell me about root / password?  is that defaulted or do I have to set it?08:30
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Dr_WillisSighkick,  its in the FAQ ;P its the first users password08:30
AvatarofVirgoWhat happens if a storm nocks my power out, does it recover well?08:30
PhuzionWhen I try to ./configure it, it says this:08:30
Dr_Willisand you CANT login straight to root - by default08:30
Phuzionconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH08:30
PhuzionSee `config.log' for more details.08:30
cafuegoSighkick: use 'sudo' from your user account; no root account or password needed.08:30
crimsunPhuzion: install build-essential08:31
Phuzionbuild essential?08:31
norhtedcrimsun: yeah i changed it, to all possible audio devices08:31
crimsunno, build-essential08:31
cafuegoAvatarofVirgo: ext3? yeah. Unless the heads actually crash into the platter.08:31
crimsunnorhted: no, change it to plug:surround4008:31
PhuzionWhere do I get it?08:31
crimsunnorhted: type it in the box08:31
cafuegoAvatarofVirgo: Then again, a physical crash would kill any FS08:31
norhtedcrimsun: hmmm i see08:31
crimsunPhuzion: via Synaptic08:31
PhuzionAlright08:31
SighkickDr_Willis and cafuego : I followed the instructions and set up myself as user with a pwd.. but never got asked for the root one... so wondered.  Know its not an area to mess in.....08:32
norhtedcrimsun: :(08:32
AvatarofVirgoIs there any faster way to get cd's?  I'm kind of impatient.08:32
cafuegoSighkick: That's correct, there isn't one. root is disabled by default on Ubuntu.08:33
SighkickAvatarofVirgo, : have you anyone closer that may have it already or a better connection speed?08:33
crimsunnorhted: what?08:33
BurgundaviaSighkick, see wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for more info08:33
Xyc0AvatarofVirgo: BitTorrent08:33
cafuegoSighkick: if you need to run a root command; type 'sudo <command>' as normal user, then type your OWN password.08:33
crimsunnorhted: you have to adjust your mixer levels - did you do that?08:33
floppyearsAvatarofVirgo: torrent08:34
AvatarofVirgoI have dialup.08:34
cafuegoAvatarofVirgo: any friends with broadband?08:34
floppyearsSighkick: you have to use "sudo command" if you want to execute something as root08:34
norhtedcrimsun: in XMMS?08:34
Sighkickcafuego, Burgundavia : thanks... that old UNIX study from many moons ago is coming to the surface08:34
crimsunnorhted: using alsamixer08:34
cafuegoSighkick: :-)08:34
AvatarofVirgoNot really, I live in area where I hate every one.  Don't ask.08:34
Phuzioncrimsun, so I download Synaptic to get this build-essential thing?08:35
Xyc0AvatarofVirgo: Oh, then order them.  You can get like 10 at a time to give to friends08:35
Sighkickfloppyears, : does that include any application / device installs ?08:35
AvatarofVirgoI've only lived here for about 5 years.08:35
crimsunPhuzion: you already have Synaptic. It's in System> Administration> Synaptic08:35
AvatarofVirgoI ordered some last night.08:35
floppyearsSighkick: I think so08:35
cafuegoAvatarofVirgo: Then there's not a really a fast way.08:35
PhuzionAhhhh08:35
PhuzionThanks08:35
cafuegowell, an overnight dialup download would work08:35
Xyc0AvatarofVirgo: You can also go to a lan cafe and download and burn it there08:35
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billytwowillyso, mysqladmin won't let me create databases. I've edited /etc/mysql/my.cnf to have a password and the user msql but when I use mysqladmin -u mysql -p creat Mambo and put in the password it doesn't let me create the database08:36
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floppyearsbillytwowilly: try "sudo mysql"08:37
AvatarofVirgoI guess I can wait for it.  The quality of the cd's will be better then burned cd's.  I noticed cd-r's tend to scratch easy and don't last as long.08:37
cafuegoAvatarofVirgo: Well, you really only need 'em once.08:37
Xyc0AvatarofVirgo: the only problem with that is I think they are holding off to ship untill breezy is released08:37
toad3030there anybody that can help me install all-20050412.tar.bz2  it is a codex file for totem08:37
Madpilotheh - just switched back the default Hoary "Human" Gnome theme - I'd forgotten how very *brown* it is...08:37
pudlandcafuego: what was the command you gave me earlier to install java?08:37
poningruMadpilot: I hate that brown08:38
cafuegopudland: 'sudo apt-get install java-package'08:38
benplaut!java08:38
billytwowillyfloppyears, yah, that doesn't work either. doesn't accept my password for some reason. I restarted mysql after changing the my.cnf file too. could it be the debian.cnf file in the mysql dir that is fuxoring it up?08:38
ubotusomebody said java was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.08:38
poningruwished it were more pretty08:38
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AvatarofVirgoI was just on there site and it said October.08:38
Phuzioncrimsun, is there any other essential packages I should get?08:38
f_newtontoad that is a wincodecfile for xine/mplayer not totem08:38
cafuegopudland: That won't actually install java yet, though.08:38
pudlandadd my psswrd at the end of that?08:38
Xyc0AvatarofVirgo: Are you willing to wait that long?08:38
pudlandoh08:38
Madpilotponingru: I'm planning on doing some screenshots for the U wiki, so I need to go back to the brown...08:38
toad3030hmm...must have read wrong then08:38
poningruah08:38
cafuegopudland: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java  <-- that will explain it all.08:38
pudlandi dl's the jre package08:38
AvatarofVirgoI guess I better get downloading, I'll still get the cd's in the mail any way.08:39
poningruhmm sounds like a good idea08:39
poningruI might do that too08:39
toad3030anyway, i need to get my totem to read dvd's any help with that?08:39
pudlandok08:39
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pudlandill read08:39
poningruubotu: tell toad3030 about restrictedformats08:39
cafuegoAmaranth: I wonder if there IS a full moon tomight, my cats are weird, too.08:39
poningrugoomnam hey koyee08:39
Sighkickone final question....  I always have trouble finding the link to the ubuntu forum (for help etc)... is it just me or is the link hard to find?08:39
poningruread in hindi08:39
shaymdo you know one good tool to capture X streams to swf2 ?08:39
AvatarofVirgoIs it just one cd iso?  Because that should take about oh 3 days on dialup.08:40
poningruSighkick: google keyword: ubuntuforums08:40
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cafuegoSighkick: wiki.ubuntu.com or here, on irc.08:40
SighkickK08:40
floppyearsbillytwowilly: hmm, I would then ask in #mysql08:40
cafuegoAvatarofVirgo: Yeah, just one cd for the base. You can add stuff later (there is an entire DVD worth of stuff online)08:40
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cafuego(dual-layer dvd at that)08:40
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SighkickAvatarofVirgo, : yes its one ISO...08:40
f_newtonAvatarofVirgo, yer gonna get the cds in the mail before you finish downloading the install iso then installing the rest of the os from thenet08:41
MadpilotAvatarofVirgo: unless you want the LiveCD as well - that's a 2nd seperate ISO08:41
SighkickLOL... the updates are 90 megs!!!08:41
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AvatarofVirgoHow many different disk do I get in the mail?08:42
f_newtonthe live cd is for running the os from a cdrom to check out whether you like it without destroying your current installation08:42
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SighkickAvatarofVirgo, : as many as you need...08:42
Amaranthcafuego: Moon Phase: Waning Crescent, 7% of moon illuminated08:42
f_newtonthe install iso is base packages etc but you will still need to finish the installation via the net08:42
AvatarofVirgoI know I'm getting 19 copies.08:42
AvatarofVirgoI mean 10...08:42
MadpilotAvatarofVirgo: however many you ordered - each set is 2 discs - Install & LiveCD08:42
cafuegoAmaranth: Well well...08:42
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f_newtonin your case AvatarofVirgo you need to get the cd set from snail mail or someone in your LUG08:43
AvatarofVirgoIt's to bad they don't put all there stuff on disk, they may have a lot of stuff I want that's not on the disk and it would be a pain having to download them.08:43
pc19 im new to ubuntu. how do i access root? how do i put root password08:43
SighkickAvatarofVirgo, : where abouts are you?  Someone in the same neighbourhood might have already received a pack of ten to share...thats the idea of getting a lot08:43
AvatarofVirgoI live north of Austin.08:43
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Madpilot!sudo08:43
ubotuI guess sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo08:44
Madpilotpc19: see ubotu's URL above ^^^08:44
cafuegopc19: You don't, there is no need. Ubuntu is set up to use 'sudo'.08:44
pc19thanks08:44
f_newtonAvatarofVirgo, I live in Dallas... maybe we can work something out08:44
SighkickAvatarofVirgo, : we had someone join just a while ago from TX08:44
f_newtonthere are a lot of linux users in texas and on freenode08:44
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AvatarofVirgof_newton: What do you have in mind?08:45
f_newtonwell do you have a wifi card ?08:45
AvatarofVirgoNo.08:45
f_newtonI can find you a wifi cafe that will give you free access for one thing08:45
f_newtonhmmmm08:45
AvatarofVirgoI have a desktop that's it.08:45
SighkickAvatarofVirgo, : the idea of getting more than one CD is to share... I have 8 copies still to give out... most ppl can do the same08:45
AvatarofVirgoOld ass emachine from best buy.08:45
f_newtonok... AvatarofVirgo what kind of box is it?08:46
f_newtonis there no complete cd set of ubuntu?08:46
AvatarofVirgoCeleron 600 mhz, 256 mb ram.08:46
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f_newtonAvatarofVirgo, thats what my laptop is08:46
f_newtonand it runs great on it too08:46
AvatarofVirgo10 gb hard drive with a 10 year old 16 gb hd I pulled out of some older computer.08:47
f_newtonAvatarofVirgo, that sounds like a dell08:47
Sighkickthis is a K6 2/500 with 128 and it also works fine08:47
f_newtonmy home box is a bit... different but its not 64 bit08:47
pc19i didnt set anypassword yet08:48
AvatarofVirgoMy secondary hd I had since aol 3.0 and it's still kicking.08:48
pc19what do i do?08:48
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Madpilotpc19: you set your user pass during install08:48
f_newtonwell AvatarofVirgo I am tring to figure out how to get a default packages install w/ updates for you...08:48
AvatarofVirgoIt only had about 64 or so ram when I got it, the ram cant be upgraded any more.08:48
f_newtonwell none of that matters for installation08:49
Sighkickdinner time...nite all...08:49
AvatarofVirgoI was just saying.08:49
f_newtonwe need tol figure out a way to get you installed08:49
AvatarofVirgoI know.08:49
pc19thanks08:49
f_newtonI am going to research that a bit08:50
AvatarofVirgoHow would I figure out if any one in my area has any disk?08:50
AvatarofVirgoI would say mail me a set but that would cost stamps.08:50
f_newtonAvatarofVirgo, look up your local LUG, linux users group08:51
f_newtonAvatarofVirgo, thats not a big deal08:52
f_newtonlol08:52
f_newtonnot from Dallas08:52
AvatarofVirgoI know.08:52
AvatarofVirgoGive me a moment.08:52
f_newtonbut... thats not the problem08:52
f_newtonthe problem is how to get you a complete usable install without the internet08:52
f_newtondial up will take you a week08:52
norhtedcrimsun: first i enabled the rear satellites but at that moment i lost front satellites...an now i just have the rear right one...08:52
norhtedcrimsun: i increased and decreased everything in alsamixer08:52
efigyidolmy system gets very laggy if any processor intensive activities are going on, generally I have xchat firefox and bmp open (and playing) can I tweak my resource management somehow?08:52
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AvatarofVirgoWhat's the default install from just the disk provide?08:53
pc19how do i instal firefox?08:53
anacronpc19: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox08:53
Madpilotpc19: it's already installed in Ubuntu08:53
AvatarofVirgoI don't use my system for that much stuff.  As long as I can get online, read email chat on aim, play music burn music.  Little stuff like that I'm good.08:53
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anacronAvatarofVirgo: lucky you, i need to do same stuff what i can do with windows08:54
Phuzioncrimsun, can you help me out a little more/08:54
pc19being a beginner is cool here in ubuntu08:54
Phuzion?08:54
efigyidolAvatarofVirgo: that will provide everything you need08:54
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norhtedcrimsun: anyway, i have more important things to deal with other than sound, thanks08:55
anacronpc19: what's so cool beeing noob? :D08:55
lokAvatarofVirgo, well it provide you firefox, evolution(mail client), gaim(for aim), rhythmbox(music player), nautilus-burn08:55
AvatarofVirgoSweet!08:55
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pc19becoz u help08:55
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pc19hehehehe08:55
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anacronso it's cool being noob when others help you :D08:55
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AvatarofVirgoI'm getting used to Gnome now, I'm in the process of using YAST on suse to remove kde.08:56
Madpilotanacron: there are some channels where noob = lunch, I gather...08:56
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Sonderbladewhat does ubuntu use instead of FAM?08:56
pc19well in return i can help other noobs08:56
anacronMadpilot: i know, but that doesn't make noob anyhow cool08:56
AvatarofVirgoI had to set it to use gdm instead of kdm.  When I forgot to do that and rebooted after removing kde it started up in windowmaker and I freaked out.08:56
Madpilotanacron: true, but at least here we don't savage the poor creatures08:56
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f_newtonis this going to become infected with l33t losers?08:57
benplaut!yawn08:57
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, benplaut08:57
pc19all begin with a single step08:57
anacronMadpilot: yeah, otherwise i wouldn't use ubuntu08:57
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yayaI have my wireless setup, but everytime I boot I have to dhclient, how can I add wlan0 to my default dhclient at boot?08:58
yayait doesn't automatically try to fetch an ip for my wireless, only for my lan08:58
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AvatarofVirgoI take it ubuntu works fine on most IBM thinkpads?08:58
AvatarofVirgoWhen I get a notebook I may be going with IBM.08:59
hyphenatedAvatarofVirgo: the important thing is whether it works on yours :-)08:59
AvatarofVirgoMy notebook or my desktop?08:59
AvatarofVirgoI don't have a notebook.08:59
hyphenatedI didn't like the last IBM laptop I saw. 'twas rather ugly08:59
AvatarofVirgoI don't care how it looks I care that it works.09:00
anacronAvatarofVirgo: if you wan't to help ubuntu, then buy a laptop what you really wan't to buy, not ibm09:00
AvatarofVirgoOk, where can I get some really cheap ones at?09:00
Dr_WillisI got a Cheap Compaq V3211us09:01
Dr_Willisabout $500 or so :P09:01
Dr_Willisafter rebates09:01
AvatarofVirgoWhat site?09:01
AvatarofVirgoNever mind.09:01
AvatarofVirgoI hate damn rebates.09:01
Dr_Willisgot it at Bestbuy :09:01
AvatarofVirgoThose things are evil.09:01
Dr_Willisoh wah.. cant spend 5 min- to get back $20009:01
Dr_Willispoor thing. :P09:02
AvatarofVirgoAe hell, I hate best buy.  I don't shop there any more.09:02
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Dr_WillisHeh - best buy has been very good to me..09:02
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Dr_Willisactually their price was 200 BELOW the Hp.com sites price.. then they had the rebates.09:02
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PoromiesI've been quite happy with my Acer Aspire 5024WLMi, everything works great with linux (though one needs to get kernel ..6.12 to get the chipset and DMA fully working), price is somewhere around 1100 or so09:02
billytwowillywhy is mysql so broken in ubuntu?09:02
Dr_Willisthat laptop has less then perfect linux support at the moment however.09:02
AvatarofVirgoIt's not a matter of time, it's a matter of ops we didn't get in the mail so you don't get your money.09:02
Dr_Willis:P09:02
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Dr_WillisAvatarofVirgo,  last time - i got the rebates twice. :P09:03
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Dr_Willisthey also frogot to ring up the docking station...  $200 mistake they made.09:03
Dr_Willisi dident even notice till 2 months later.09:04
pc19what abt java plug in? whats the name of the package to apt get09:04
AvatarofVirgoMost of the time I did to, but I'd rather not gamble with my money with retard rebates, I just assume get the same thing some where else with out the rebate and not have my time wasted by a marketing scam.09:04
cafuego!java09:04
uboturumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.09:04
cafuegopc19: Chekc the url ubotu just said09:04
AvatarofVirgoOften times I been finding just as good hard where for a fraction of the price (even after there rebates) from online sites.09:05
anacroni did make new partition yesterday, now do i have to mount it to make it work? and how can i chech which one it is in /dev/hd*09:05
AvatarofVirgonewegg has some good stuff for low prices.09:05
Dr_Williswelli heard that Hp.com had the same thing cheaper.. when i checked . the local store beat them by a good $150 or so,09:05
pc19E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.509:06
Dr_Willisbut really for a Linux laptop - it pays to do some research and NOT get the 'newest' thing out.09:06
AvatarofVirgoYeah.09:06
Dr_Willismy Emachine 6800 had fairly decent linux support.09:06
Dr_Willisbut egads   it was huge...09:06
Dr_Willisdecent for games :P09:06
Dr_Willissucked for battery life.09:07
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AvatarofVirgoI don't need the the newest thing but it would be nice to have at least 1 hz or higher cpu with 512 ram.09:07
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Madpilot!tell pc19 about repos09:07
AvatarofVirgoI mean ghz.09:07
AvatarofVirgoOps.09:07
Dr_Willisthis CompaqV3211 has that Turion CPU at 1.6 ghz.09:07
Madpilotpc19: ubotu will have just sent you a msg - that's what you need to do to find the JRE package09:07
Dr_Willisoops V2311us09:08
pc19ok09:08
Dr_Willisbut for a linux laptop - i cant recommend it - yet.09:08
Dr_Willisfor a CHEAP laptop for the kids to take to school/college to do homework.. :P yes.09:08
Dr_Willisnight all09:09
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f_newtonDr_Willis, this dell inspiron 3800 with a 600 celeron and 256 meg and 10gig hdd does really well with most linux distros09:09
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AvatarofVirgoI'd like to get a cheap lap top with a wifi card, I'm not that concern with cd/dvd conbo's.  I just assume use wifi, usb drives, or some othe form of network access.  I'd like to avoid using removable media.09:10
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AvatarofVirgoGood night Dr_Willis.09:10
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weirdcreephow do iget svn09:12
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Amaranth!info subversion09:12
ubotusubversion: (Advanced version control system (aka. svn)), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.1.1-2ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 953 kB, Installed size: 3072 kB09:12
weirdcreep!info subversion09:12
Amaranthack, don't do it again09:12
weirdcreeplol09:12
Amaranthinstall the subversion package09:13
AvatarofVirgoACER AS3002LCi NoteBook Mobile Sempron AMD2800+ 15.0" XGA 256MB DDR333 40GB 4200rpm DVD/CD-RW Combo SiS Mirage 2 - Retail  $629.0009:13
AvatarofVirgoDoes that work?09:13
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AvatarofVirgoOr are there sites with any thing cheaper?09:14
f_newtonAvatarofVirgo, i think you can find a better laptop for around the same money dude09:14
f_newtonacer is not your most uh reliable brand09:14
AmaranthAvatarofVirgo: You get what you pay for.09:14
AvatarofVirgoWhat is a reliable brand?09:14
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AvatarofVirgoI've never had a notebook, so some good advice would be helpful.09:16
f_newtonAvatarofVirgo, you can get, for example, a completely refurbished or new dell 1 gig laptop for under 500\09:16
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AvatarofVirgoOn the dell site or from a 3rd source?09:16
f_newtonthird party source... or ebay sellers with lotz of stars09:16
f_newtonAvatarofVirgo, you live near one of the best dell outlet stores on the planet09:16
f_newtonyou in round rock area?09:16
AvatarofVirgoCedar Park.09:16
f_newtonknow where round rock is?09:16
AvatarofVirgoYeah.09:16
f_newtonthats dell09:16
AvatarofVirgoCool.09:17
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AvatarofVirgoAll this time and it was right there.09:17
f_newtonnow... I would look on the net if I were you..do a search for decent brands you can depend on like ibm toshiba or dell09:17
benplautgo for an IBM09:17
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benplaut(or, now, Lenovo)09:17
AvatarofVirgoIBM had some used ones on there site, I saw one in there in the $500's.09:17
benplaut!thinkpad09:17
ubotubenplaut: I haven't a clue09:17
noxfujitsu is great too.09:18
f_newtonnew ibms are made in china ...  I would not get a new ibm09:18
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f_newtonno telling what kind of hardware you are gonna get09:18
benplauti don't think they're made there yet09:18
f_newtonbeen for three years09:18
benplaut?!09:18
benplautwell, mine is just safe, then :)09:18
f_newtonbefore that I would recommend ibm first and foremost09:18
f_newtonand the chinese build a good product09:19
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f_newtonits just that you cant depend on what periphriels they may use09:19
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f_newtonand they cheat a lot09:19
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Burgundaviaf_newton, the old ibms were also made in china. Nothing much has changed09:19
benplauthe09:20
benplauthere you go, hot off the woot!09:20
benplauthttp://www.woot.com/09:20
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f_newtonuh my ibm was NOT made in china09:20
Burgundaviasome are made in Mexico09:20
ompaula note for anyone interested restoring desktop icons - ps auwx | grep bono and kill -9 that process09:20
rendisudo umount floppy09:20
rendiumount: /home/admin/Desktop/floppy: device is busy09:20
f_newtonbut ibm controlled the parts that went inside now there is no such control09:20
rendihelp me anyone09:20
rendihow to umount da09:20
AvatarofVirgoIt could be worst it could have been made in antartica.09:20
Burgundaviaf_newton, nothing much is going to change. Anyway, this is totally offtopicd09:21
f_newtonyeah it is off topic...09:21
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f_newtondo some research AvatarofVirgo before you buy09:21
AvatarofVirgoI'm on the dell site now, I haven't found any used ones yet.09:21
f_newtonnot on the dell site you wont09:23
AvatarofVirgoOh.09:23
f_newtonthey try to sell new stuff there but dell has a 30 day return policy and once it is returned it cant be sold as new anymore09:23
ompaulrendi, you have some terminal open with cd /media/floppy0 in it ? if so cd / and then umount if not you can risk corrupting the disk with umount -f /media/floppy009:23
f_newtonthey send them to outlets09:23
rendiok i'l try09:23
AvatarofVirgoHolly crap.09:23
ompaulholly the bush?09:23
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AvatarofVirgoIBM Certified Used Notebook T21 (8AU)09:23
AvatarofVirgo                                                                                                                                      Sale price*<font size="3">                                                                                                   </font>09:23
AvatarofVirgo<font size="3">                $481.50                 </font>09:23
AvatarofVirgoOps.09:23
AvatarofVirgoSorry.09:23
AvatarofVirgoHold on.09:23
benplautgo to www.woot.com09:23
AvatarofVirgohttp://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=8586356&storeId=1&langId=-1&categoryId=2576396&dualCurrId=73&catalogId=-84009:23
AvatarofVirgoOk.09:24
benplautthey have a t22 for 405 shipped09:24
benplauttonight only, so jump on it!09:24
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rendiwha tabout this09:24
rendiumount: /dev/fd0 mount disagrees with the fstab09:24
rendidoh09:24
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PurpleMotionHai, fsckers!09:24
ompaulrendi, do this 'mount' and what does it say about what ever your doing09:24
rendiokay i got this09:25
rendi/dev/fd0 on /home/admin/Desktop/floppy type vfat (rw)09:25
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PurpleMotionwhy in gods name would you mount it inside your home dir?09:25
PurpleMotiontry /dev/fd0 on /mnt/floppy type vfat (rw)09:25
rendi?09:26
ompaulrendi, that is not good :) umount -f /home/admin/Desktop/floppy09:26
rendiwith umount09:26
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rendiany suggest ??09:26
PurpleMotionumount /dev/fd0 && mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy09:26
PurpleMotionthat'll fix you09:26
rendii'm try now09:26
f_newtonAvatarofVirgo, that one would be perfect for you09:27
PurpleMotionmake sure you dont have it open when you umount09:27
AvatarofVirgoThe one I listed?09:27
rendisame trouble09:27
rendi$ umount /dev/fd0 && mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 floppy09:27
rendiumount: /dev/fd0 mount disagrees with the fstab09:27
f_newtonthe one benp09:27
rendiheheh09:27
f_newtonargh the one benplaut listed09:27
AvatarofVirgoOh, ok.09:27
yayahow do I add a timeout to my lan card trying to get an ipaddress at boot?09:28
PurpleMotiondamndamn that's not a bad little laptop09:28
PurpleMotionrendi:  sudo pico /etc/fstab09:28
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PurpleMotionand change it to /mnt/floppy09:28
PurpleMotionand set type to vfat09:28
benplautit's a great deal, aswell09:28
PurpleMotionor auto would be even better09:28
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PurpleMotionthat way you could put any kind of formatted floppy in..09:29
benplautbut it'll be gone soon, so order now, or forever hold your peices09:29
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seife`Hi need help09:29
PurpleMotionthen you control it with: mount /dev/fd009:29
benplautHi will help09:29
f_newtonbenplaut, there will be more09:29
seife`I would like to know what this font is http://www.osnews.com/img/8398/ubuntu.png? and how to get it.09:29
noxPurpleMotion, you managed to play mp4 files already?09:29
PurpleMotionor: mount /mnt/floppy09:29
PurpleMotionnox: hell no09:29
benplautf_newton: do you know how woot operates?09:29
PurpleMotionand im pissed about it, but i can just share the file and watch it in the living room :D09:29
PurpleMotionso screw it, it's not worth that kind of energy09:30
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rendii have done09:30
rendiwith this09:30
PurpleMotioni think it might be the format of the files09:30
seife`Is anyone answering my question?09:30
rendisee my fstab09:30
rendi/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       009:30
PurpleMotionthere ya go09:30
seife`hello?09:30
f_newtonnot really but I see them all over the web... there is a guy using one of my web sites to save the pics for his ebay offering www.americanwanderer.com  I think he wants about 4 for that one09:30
benplautseife`: the pic is loading... a sec09:30
PurpleMotionnow you can: mount /media/floppy0 -or- mount /dev/fd009:31
PurpleMotionand umount either as well09:31
f_newtonpersonally I prefer dells but I do like ibms09:31
Seveasseife`, that looks like the standard font....09:31
benplautseife`: it would appear to simply be Sans09:31
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seife`ok, whats the standard one in Ubuntu?09:31
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benplautSans09:31
seife`ok09:32
seife`what size?09:32
benplautumm09:32
rendibefore thta i cd to Desktop and do this09:32
rendiumount -t vfat /dev/fd0 floppy09:32
benplaut10?09:32
rendiand now can't umount09:32
Seveasseife`, http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/screenshot.png09:32
Madpilot10 point for everything09:32
PurpleMotionf_newton:  you can kill that action real quick. turn off referrers, or ban people coming from ebay09:32
sheshwhere to get this?09:33
rendiumount: /media/floppy0 is not mounted (according to mtab)09:33
seife`ok, now where do i download that sans font09:33
rendiduh09:33
benplautseife`: it's included by default09:33
Madpilotseife`: it's included with Ubuntu09:33
PurpleMotioni guess you could really tweak it, and only ban people requesting images who are coming from ebay09:33
floppyearshi09:33
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floppyearshow can I take a look at the arp and routing table in my linux box ?09:33
PurpleMotionrendi: now, umount /dev/fd0 && mount /dev/fd009:33
seife`I dont have Ubuntu09:34
seife`I have windows09:34
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seife`I want that font in windows09:34
rendisame purple09:34
rendiumount: /dev/fd0 mount disagrees with the fstab09:34
rendi!_!09:34
uboturendi: Are you smoking crack?09:34
Seveasfloppyears, route09:34
PurpleMotionseife`:  sorry to hear it :)09:34
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action09hi all09:34
floppyearsSeveas: thanks09:35
action09anyone know how can i modify options ( geometry) on vino vncserver ? and optionnaly hwo can i restart x manually please ?09:35
PurpleMotionrendi: type mount09:35
seife`where09:35
PurpleMotionshow me the line for the floppy drive09:35
rendi$ mount09:35
rendi/dev/fd0 on /home/admin/Desktop/floppy type vfat (rw)09:35
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PurpleMotionokay09:35
PurpleMotionsudo umount /dev/fd009:36
PurpleMotionthen09:36
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PurpleMotionpaste to me the floppy drive line in /etc/fstab09:36
rendiwait09:36
benplautseife`: i guess you'll just have to get Ubuntu :)09:36
rendiit says09:36
rendibussy09:36
rendiumount: /home/admin/Desktop/floppy: device is busy09:36
Seveasrendi, the close all windows having that folder open09:36
rendii'm close all09:37
PurpleMotiondo you have a terminal open in that folder? or do you have it open somewhere on your desktop? do you have a file in it open? close anything that might have to do with that floppy drive09:37
seife`I want to install Ubuntu09:37
PurpleMotionthen09:37
seife`But i know nothing about linux :\09:37
Seveasrendi, what does 'lsof /home/admin/Desktop/floppy' say09:37
rendii have do that09:37
Seveasseife`, that's ok, Ubuntu is great for beginners09:37
floppyearsSeveas: then ubuntu is a good choice09:37
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PurpleMotionsudo umount /dev/fd009:37
PurpleMotionyeah09:37
benplautseife`: neither did we, when we started09:37
PurpleMotionif it's open, it's busy09:37
Seveasfloppyears, I know ;)09:38
PurpleMotionif you're int hat directory, it's busy09:38
rendiSeveas gam_serve 6784 admin   65r   DIR    2,0 7168    1 /home/admin/Desktop/floppy09:38
SeveasI installed it a year ago :)09:38
PurpleMotionso you have to get out of it09:38
Seveasrendi, argh, gamin strikes again...09:38
seife`What u have to learn?09:38
Seveasrendi, sudo kill 678409:38
Seveasand then retry09:38
floppyearsSeveas: sorry, I should've sent that to seife`09:38
floppyearsseife`: go to the ubuntu homepage and download the iso.09:38
PurpleMotionwhats gamin?09:39
benplautseife`: nothing except a bit of common sense about backing up :P09:39
Seveasfloppyears, I understanda that, looked funnt though :)09:39
SeveasPurpleMotion, the thing that monitors file modifications09:39
PurpleMotiongotchya09:39
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PurpleMotionsometimes gets a little stuck?09:39
floppyearsseife`: you will learn enough to not wanting to go back09:39
Madpilotseife`: you can download a LiveCD - it runs without touching your harddrive, so you can try Ubuntu out09:39
PurpleMotionyou can even install from it09:39
rendii have kill that09:39
rendiand then09:39
PurpleMotionyou have all the tools09:39
PurpleMotionrendi: mount /dev/fd009:40
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Seveasno, first unmount :)09:40
PurpleMotionoh that wasnt the mount09:40
rendilol09:40
PurpleMotionsudo umount /dev/fd009:40
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PurpleMotionit was the process keeping the umount at bay09:40
action09no idea formy vino  ? :(09:41
rendiclear09:41
rendithengkyu all09:41
rendi:)09:41
PurpleMotionnetime :)09:41
action09is it the same behavior than vncserver ..09:41
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benplauti've g2g2school tomorrow, g'night everyone09:42
benplautsummer is over :(09:42
seife`really?09:43
seife`u guys think if a install ubuntu and learn some, i would not back to windows?09:43
Burgundaviaseife`, yes09:43
Madpilotseife`: probably. I'm never taking my home machine back!09:43
floppyearsseife`: absolutely. It has so many advantages over windows09:43
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Seveasseife`, lots of people preceed you in that :)09:43
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seifecool09:44
f_newtonseife`, I would venture to say yes... you may not stick with ubuntu although it appears to be a fine gui based debian distro, but u will probably remain with a nix type os09:44
seifeI can do the same things in Ubuntu that the things i do in windows?09:44
Madpilottrue, but I've become an actual convert since then... ;)09:44
f_newtonand a whole lot more09:44
floppyearsseife: yes09:44
floppyearsand many more09:44
seifewhat more09:45
seife:|09:45
Madpilotseife: have a quick look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant09:45
seifecool09:45
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f_newtonseife, there are many linux distros, several bsd distros, and even the genuine unix distros09:45
f_newtonwith windows all you get is .... windows and that is pretty bland once you see what is really available09:46
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ictushi all09:46
seifecool09:46
f_newtonor you can be trolling for the infamous b gates seife09:46
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mp1I'm having trouble mounting a windows Hdd, I've forgotten which file it is in /dev since I re-installed My mtab/fstab aren't right... What's the easiest way to find the hdd ?09:47
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efigyidoldoes the default install of xorg have opengl enabled?09:47
elwoodmp1 cfdisk and search for win fs09:47
Burgundaviaseife, nothing we are going to say is going to convince you to switch. The best way is to simply try it out yourself09:47
PurpleMotionyou ever just be sitting there and an idea pops into your head that will actually make you a LOT of money?09:47
seifethe question is09:48
seifei install all my programs09:48
seifeand ubuntu will fuck up right?09:48
seifeand why i have to fix it via console :/09:48
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f_newtonlol09:48
PurpleMotion*uNF*09:48
f_newtonsit down PurpleMotion its been done09:48
f_newtonlol09:49
PurpleMotionseife:  Because you need to learn and get comfortable with the command line anyways.09:49
Seveasseife, why would Ubuntu fuck up?09:49
PurpleMotionf_newton:  yeah, but ive only seen two or three in movies like this.. im gonna make like 300 of them and sell them09:49
PurpleMotion:D09:49
f_newtonseife, I hardly ever use the cli anymore09:49
SeveasPurpleMotion, not true, Ubunut goes a long way to make everything available via the GUI09:49
PurpleMotionSeveas:  blasphemy09:49
BurgundaviaPurpleMotion, Ubuntu's goal is to make certain that if you don't want to use the CLI, you don't have to09:49
Madpilotseife: you probably won't have to install much. there's lots and lots of stuff already installed09:49
PurpleMotionwhat's the point if they dont learn.. we want to convert windows users, we dont want windows users09:50
SeveasPurpleMotion, nonsense....09:50
PurpleMotionnot to me it isn't09:50
Seveaswell, to Ubuntu it is...09:50
f_newtonPurpleMotion, who is this we yoda?09:50
mp1elwood: when I run cfdisk it goes to a flashcard I had mounted, I umounted, ejected that and now it says "fatal error: Cannot open disk drive..."09:50
PurpleMotionI love ubuntu, it's the best thing to happen to debian since knoppix09:50
f_newtonthe purpose of linux is NO09:50
PurpleMotion*shrug*09:51
f_newtonugh nOT To build and army of ms haters09:51
PurpleMotionnonono09:51
PurpleMotionand i dont hate ms at all09:51
seifehow many space it needs?09:51
seifemore than 5GB09:51
seifei  just have 5GB on my d:\ idisk09:51
f_newtonits to offer a viable alternative to the closed minded I know whats best for you attitude of microsoft09:51
PurpleMotionbut, i can't stand people who dont know how and dont want to learn how.09:51
Seveasseife, not if you just want to test it09:51
f_newtonwell thats your hang up09:51
Seveas5gb is more than enough for the default environment09:51
f_newtonget over it09:52
PurpleMotionlast year, i taught my mom how to navigate a filesystem09:52
f_newtonkewl09:52
PurpleMotionshe's had a computer for twelve years09:52
PurpleMotionlemme say that again09:52
PurpleMotionlast year, i taught my mom how to navigate a filesystem09:52
PurpleMotionshe's had a computer for twelve years09:52
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Madpilotseife: the default install of Ubuntu is about 1.7Gb09:52
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PurpleMotionbut she was willing to learn how :)09:52
seifeand it comes with all programs installed?09:52
PurpleMotionshe found thousands of files she didnt know she still had09:52
f_newtonmost every thing you will ever need seife09:53
BurgundaviaPurpleMotion, computers should not be so difficult to use that need training09:53
Seveasseife, it comes with a complete office-browser-mail-internet suite installed09:53
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gwxnei001nu09:53
PurpleMotionBurgundavia:  it doesnt mean you shouldnt learn it, though09:53
f_newtonIf you do need more you can install it simply and easily via apt-get or synaptic09:53
seifecool09:53
seifecan i install programs like macromedia there?09:53
seifeor microsoft word?09:53
PurpleMotioneveryone should posess at least basic skills09:53
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Madpilotseife: see the big chart on the bottom of that WindowsUsers URL I gave you, it'll give you some idea of what you can do with Ubuntu09:53
f_newtonPurpleMotion, users learn as they go along at their pace09:53
Seveasseife, you can install flash09:54
Madpilotseife: for MSWord, use OpenOffice09:54
PurpleMotionfilesystem navigation, basic maintenance, basic troubleshooting09:54
Seveasseife, and a replacement for word is installed by default09:54
seifeoh ok09:54
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PurpleMotionif you aren't willing to learn these simple things the first time you sit down to a computer, then you should not be on one.09:54
SeveasPurpleMotion, do you know how to troubleshoot your tv09:54
Seveas?09:54
PurpleMotionto a degree09:54
PurpleMotioni read the manual09:54
seifewoah so09:54
seifeif u guys says that09:54
seifeubuntu is great09:54
seife!09:54
ubotuseife: Bugger all, i dunno09:54
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Seveasright, but not to the degree users must know how to troubleshoot computers09:55
PurpleMotionyeah, ubuntu rocks09:55
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Seveasso computers still fail :)09:55
seifewhat ubuntu command line skillz do i need09:55
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Seveasseife, virtually none09:55
Madpilotseife: minimal.09:55
PurpleMotionthe most basic of troubleshooting skills, though.. reboot, start with a log, boot from recover cd, etc09:55
f_newtonfirefox/ubuntu has a big time bug in crashing when trying to clear the certificate screen09:55
PurpleMotioneveryone should have those09:55
PurpleMotionthey're pretty easy to learn09:55
SeveasPurpleMotion, not really :)09:56
PurpleMotionand they save tons of time down the road when you fubar it.09:56
Seveasit's all too unintuitive09:56
PurpleMotionblah we're not going to see eye on this one, m8.. let's agree to disagree09:56
seifewoah09:56
Seveas:)09:56
seifeI dont know how to do those things09:56
seifelike start with a log09:57
f_newtonyes PurpleMotion you are correct in that09:57
seifeor boot from recover cd lol09:57
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floppyearsseife: you will learn things as you need them. That's how most of us have learned what we know09:57
PurpleMotion.o(but I know there's people in here sittin at their computers goin 'yeah, ain't it the truth' ;) i really will shutup now )09:57
whitefanghow do i install a .tgz with dpkg?09:57
Seveaswhitefang, not.09:57
liran_i forgot, how do you open up .bz2 files?09:57
whitefangits meant to be installed that way though09:58
floppyearsliran_: tar -xjvf09:58
Seveasliran_, with the archive manager or what floppyears said09:58
Seveaswhitefang, is it a slackware package?09:58
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liran_ahh right09:58
liran_and z is for gzip09:58
whitefangSeveas, possibly09:58
liran_i always confuse the two09:58
Seveaswhitefang, alien might help in that case09:58
whitefangls09:59
whitefangoops09:59
seifeOne question, Gimp comes with fonts?09:59
c3101can alien convert slack to deb ?09:59
Madpilotseife: Ubuntu comes with some very nice fonts09:59
floppyearsc3101: I think so09:59
seifeNo09:59
seifeIm in Gimp09:59
seifeI have the font Sans there09:59
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floppyearsseife: you can install more fonts later if you need them.10:00
Madpilotseife: GIMP in Windows? no idea, sorry. sounds like it does10:00
f_newtongimp is gnome image manipulation program10:00
seifeBut i look into the c:\root\.gimp-2.2.\fonts\ and there is no sans.ttf10:00
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hussamI might change monitors sometime this summer. how do I reconfigure X.conf for the new monitor? ( current one is detected correctly )10:00
seifeI want sans font ARGGG10:00
f_newtongimp is very powerful if you know how to use it10:00
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hussamor is reconfigured automatically on reboot ?10:00
seifeYes, Gimp > ALl10:00
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whitefangits a debian .tgz actually.10:00
luminerdcan anyone tell me something to choose FC4 over Ubuntu for a fast, quick setup I need it on 25 computers by wednesday morning!!10:00
luminerdor10:00
luminerdvisa versa10:00
Madpilotseife: i think it's called freesans.ttf10:00
seifeok10:00
f_newtonwhitefang if you have the cds for fedora do a net install on all the machines at once10:01
Madpilotthere's a whole Sans family of fonts10:01
liran_whats the package name for JRE? cause synaptic cant find it10:01
Burgundavialuminerd, either will work, but Ubuntu tends to have better security support10:01
Belutzit would be nice if there is an icon for spreadubuntu.com so i cut put it in my blog :D10:01
f_newtonsorry whitefang I mean luminerd10:01
Burgundavialuminerd, both installers support kickstart, if you need the same thing on each machine10:02
Burgundavialiran_, you need hoary-extras10:02
Burgundavialiran_, see wiki.ubuntu.com/Java10:02
luminerdBurgundavia, well, not too worried about security and I'll probably be using a program to make an iso out of the system I configure10:02
liran_ok willdo10:02
luminerdBurgundavia, kickstart?10:02
Burgundavialuminerd, the upgrade path is better for Ubuntu10:02
f_newtonluminerd, you need to be internet connected to do a good job with ubuntu10:02
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seifecan anyone send me sans.ttf10:02
Burgundavialuminerd, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/KickStart-HOWTO.html10:03
luminerdf_newton, dang, it needs that much maintenence?10:03
f_newtonI take it you found your machines10:03
ompaulluminerd, what are these machines to be used for?10:03
f_newtonno no no its a single iso install disk10:03
Burgundavialuminerd, not really10:03
f_newtona small school] 10:03
luminerdI have net on the one machine10:03
MadpilotBelutz: design some icons for Ubuntu!10:03
Burgundaviaf_newton, any modern distro does better if you are connected to the internet10:03
luminerdbut I won't on all the other clients for a few days.  I need them all set up well before that10:03
f_newtonBurgundavia, you are full of it10:03
luminerdBurgundavia, well, slackware's alright on its own :P10:03
BelutzMadpilot: that's the thing... i'm very not good at designing10:03
Oniano|iBookhas anybody compiled a kernel for an ICH5 chipset with SATA support?10:04
Burgundaviaf_newton, please remember the ubuntu code of conduct10:04
f_newtonyou are spreading rumor and preference as truth10:04
PurpleMotionOniano|iBook:  why dont you compile one?10:04
f_newtonBurgundavia, DONT EXPECT ME TO LET YOU LIE10:04
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Oniano|iBooki've tried10:04
PurpleMotionand?10:04
Burgundaviaf_newton, I have used both and found fedora to come up short in some areas that Ubuntu shines in. Upgrade path is one of those10:04
Oniano|iBookdoesn't work10:04
PurpleMotionaroo?10:05
PurpleMotionwhat do you mean, it doesnt work??10:05
PurpleMotionwhat does it do?10:05
c3101what part don;t work Oniano|iBook ?10:05
f_newtonBurgundavia, I really am not interested in much that youve said once you tried to convince someone that a single disk iso install of a 2 to 7 gig os will be adequate10:05
Oniano|iBookits definitely to do with the SATA modules10:05
Burgundaviaf_newton, huh?10:06
PurpleMotionare you compiling the modules too?10:06
PurpleMotionwtf are you on about, f_newton?10:06
c3101have you enabled SCSI support Oniano|iBook  ?10:06
f_newtonBurgundavia, the ubuntu os needs internet connectivity to fully install except for very basic packages10:06
Oniano|iBooki'm not sure which modules exactly to compile..but i know they need to be compiled into the kernel10:06
Burgundaviaf_newton, umm, no it does not10:06
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ompaulluminerd, well if you look at what you are trying to do I would suggest that with either (and I would prefer ubuntu) but set up the first machine (on the net) fully then burn the needed extras onto a CD then set each of the machines up using two CDs, however that is your call, your in for a lot of work but it would be easier with Ubuntu with the apt system10:06
PurpleMotionf_newton:  that's not true at all.10:06
Drauconwhat's a good minimalist rss/atom aggregator10:06
SeveasDraucon, blam10:07
PurpleMotionf_newton:  ubuntu installs quite a robust system right from the CD10:07
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BurgundaviaDraucon, you might want to try blam or liferea10:07
Oniano|iBookDraucon, bloglines.com ;)10:07
ompaulluminerd, are all machines the same physical build?10:07
luminerdompaul, not willing to do that10:07
Drauconthanks Seveas... i've tried liferea.. i just want something that sits in the system tray and tells me when things are updated10:07
luminerdall I'm going to do is set the one machine up with everything it needs10:07
ChoubakaWhat is Ubuntu missing when it's installed fresh from the CD?10:07
PurpleMotionyou get a complete and well-complimented desktop with every app you need and a few they thought you'd like10:07
luminerdthen I will use a program to make an iso or a few out of EVERYTHING on the system10:08
BurgundaviaChoubaka, some things they cannot legally install10:08
luminerdand then duplicate it to all the others10:08
ChoubakaBurgundavia: I know that.10:08
luminerdompaul, yea, they are all exactly the same10:08
ChoubakaBurgundavia: I was interested in f_newton's opinion in particular.10:08
PurpleMotionis that supposed to be chewbacca?10:08
ompaulluminerd, well then dd if your friend :)10:08
ChoubakaPurpleMotion: no.10:08
PurpleMotionok10:08
PurpleMotionjust askin.. looks like it sounds the same10:08
f_newtonok what kind of algorithm are they using that allows them to pack so much data in 585 megs ?10:08
luminerdompaul, huh?10:08
ompauldd is a copy program10:09
ChoubakaPurpleMotion: If you're English :)10:09
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c3101f_newton : c_loop ?10:09
PurpleMotionfair enough.10:09
Burgundaviaf_newton, default install is 1.7 gb10:09
Seveasf_newton, shared libraries :)10:09
Choubakaf_newton: you want more data?10:09
Seveasf_newton, and it's not new10:09
Seveasjust something windows isn't too good at10:09
Choubakaisn't that bloat.10:09
ChoubakaTell me, is it missing any features?10:10
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luminerdompaul, I see10:10
ChoubakaBesides those that would be illegal to include on the CD, of course.10:10
f_newtonI installed ubuntu this morning... it loaded my basic from the cd and then downloaded hundreds of meg more from the internet ... I just used a default install10:10
Choubakaf_newton: Yes.10:11
MadpilotChoubaka: aside from Flash & Java - which would be illegal - it's pretty complete in 1.7Gb...10:11
PurpleMotionf_newton:  knoppix has been doing it for years with their live cd (which btw installed into a VERY nice distro right up till about 3.910:11
ChoubakaIT upgraded itsel.10:11
luminerdSo Kubuntu IS ubuntu, right, just with kde?10:11
Burgundavialuminerd, yes10:11
ChoubakaIt*10:11
PurpleMotionit's called on-the-fly decompression10:11
Burgundavialuminerd, say repos10:11
Seveasluminerd, correct10:11
Burgundavialuminerd, same, even10:11
f_newtona hundred to one?10:11
ompaulluminerd, go with ubuntu, build machine one,  get a live CD and use the dd program to boot the machine then use dd to copy data from one from one disk to another so that you have no issues with file locks and all boxes will be exactly the same - be aware that this means that all users will have the same access to all machines unless you populate the machines seperately10:11
Choubakaf_newton: a fresh windows installation downloads about the same amount of data.10:11
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PurpleMotion3.9 pissed me off so bad i switched to ubuntu10:11
ChoubakaSP1, SP2, drivers and updates.10:11
PurpleMotionand i havent looked back10:11
f_newtona win xp install is 1.2 gig complete10:12
Choubakaand then some necessary applications you have to download from all around the net.10:12
f_newtonuntil updates10:12
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PurpleMotionknow what i SHOULD have done? I should have added the ubuntu sources and removed the knoppix sources and did an apt-get dist-upgrade10:12
Burgundaviaf_newton, a default xp install has almost no functionality10:12
f_newtonthats about a 2 to one ratio and it has no packages10:12
Seveasf_newton, and without any useful software like forefox or an office suite :)10:12
f_newtonright10:12
Choubakaf_newton: Does it come with an Office package and multimedia players and shit like that? :)10:12
f_newtonexactly10:12
PurpleMotionwhat is forefox?10:12
luminerdompaul, is dd over network?10:12
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luminerdthey aren't networked.10:13
ompaulno you said you do not have one10:13
Choubakaf_newton: so what's the problem?10:13
f_newtonall I am saying is a complete install without internet should be done with a cd or dvd set complete with the packages10:13
luminerdPurpleMotion, Firefox is a sweet browser on windows...on linux so-so10:13
f_newtonubuntu relies on the net10:13
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Burgundaviaf_newton, it can be10:13
Burgundavialuminerd, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot?highlight=%28install%2910:13
luminerdompaul, it gets all the info off the cd?10:13
Choubakaf_newton: only for updates. :P10:13
PurpleMotionluminerd:  I know what firefox is. I was wondering what forefox was :D10:13
ompaulit would be get disk one from machine two and put it in machine two and have the CD copy from hard drive one to hard drive two10:13
luminerdBurgundavia, not interested in a netboot though10:13
Choubakaf_newton: when you see it downloading stuff from the net it's updating.10:13
luminerdthey won't have internet by that time10:13
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luminerdI think I'll use Mondo10:14
luminerdinstead of DD10:14
Burgundavialuminerd, ok, read your non-networking thing after I posted the link10:14
Choubakaif you don't want security updates then you can do without network.10:14
c3101think mondo will be much faster10:14
luminerdhehe10:14
luminerdChoubaka, the first machine is on net for now10:14
luminerdI brought it home and it's on my net10:14
luminerdc3101, you do?10:14
PurpleMotionChoubaka:  think about what you just said. If you are not online, the only security threat posed to your data is somone sitting down in front of it and hacking it.10:14
ChoubakaPurpleMotion: yes.10:14
Choubakaof course.10:14
c3101dd takes forever10:15
Choubakathat's why it doesn't matter if you can't download the updates from the net.10:15
f_newtonwell as it presently stands I think ubuntu is a more able os then fedora but I still say that fedora comes complete while ubuntu relies on the internet for packages  to complete the install10:15
Choubakaif you're not connected to it.10:15
PurpleMotionI know.10:15
PurpleMotionthat was my point, heh10:15
Choubakaf_newton: Download and burn the DVD iso.10:15
Choubakait has _all_ the packages10:15
luminerdI see10:15
PurpleMotionI'm goin to bed, folks.10:15
f_newtonthat would be ideal10:16
ompaulsleep well10:16
PurpleMotionIt's been one hell of a long day10:16
Choubakaf_newton: the thing is, no-one needs all those packages10:16
Burgundaviaf_newton, are you certain it actually downloaded packages? it does some scrolling text that looks like downloading but is actually just setting up stuff10:16
ompaulPurpleMotion, well its only 9:16 am :)10:16
Choubakaf_newton: and the CD iso contains the most popular packaes.10:16
f_newtonit downloaded close to a gig if I remember correctly10:16
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Choubakaso you'll have a good system with the CD only.10:16
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luminerdI think I'll go with Fedora, simply because ubuntu seems a little *too* simple for me10:16
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luminerdthanks for the help10:16
luminerdunless anyone has a last comment10:16
luminerdto convince me otherwise10:17
luminerdheh10:17
f_newtonluminerd, I just left fc4 because it has serious updating issues10:17
c3101users like *simple* ?~:?10:17
Choubakaluminerd: I do: You're wrong :D10:17
Seveasluminerd, *too simple*?!?10:17
ompaulluminerd, choose the hard road for yourself if you want10:17
djpluminerd: i switched from fedora TO ubuntu! ;)10:17
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Burgundavialuminerd, ubuntu is much better polished10:17
Seveasluminerd, if you want difficulty: go gentoo10:17
f_newtonI have found ubuntu to be a lot more stable10:17
luminerdupdating I am not worried about10:17
Seveasif you want a good working system: go Ubuntu10:17
luminerdlol Seveas that's far too difficult10:17
luminerdI don't want difficulty10:17
luminerdI want ease10:17
Choubakaluminerd: remember Ubuntu is Debian-based. It's very customisable. :)10:17
PM-aSeepinluminerd:  you can get around in ubuntu10:17
luminerdhowever with to much ease comes too little power10:17
PM-aSeepinit's a damned nice system10:17
luminerdas windows proves10:17
Burgundavialuminerd, that is false10:18
f_newtondebian based was the biggest reason and gnome as default was the clincher10:18
PM-aSeepinespecially if you know your shit10:18
Seveasluminerd, in Ubuntu you still have full control10:18
Seveasit's not windows...10:18
f_newtonbut... Ive got a t110:18
luminerdbut10:18
Burgundavialuminerd, you still have the same underlying stuff, just a better polished ui10:18
luminerdthe users have control10:18
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ChoubakaUbuntu gives you power.10:18
luminerdI don't want the user to be able to fsck their system10:18
PM-aSeepinyeah it does10:18
Choubakabecause it has APT.10:18
ompaulluminerd, well that is wrong, so enjoy your fedora and when your crying in your coffee on Friday come back and we will still tell you how to make life easy10:18
ChoubakaAPT beats the shit out of everything else I've ever used.10:18
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luminerdI want only su'd users (me) to be able to do stuff10:18
PM-aSeepinif you know your way around a linux box, ubuntu is pretty damned nice10:18
Seveasluminerd, then don't give then this ability :)10:18
nicholaspaulcos its easy to use, its not powerful, luminerd? where on earth did you hear that?10:18
Choubakaluminerd: that's controllable.10:18
Seveasluminerd, by default only thr user you creat on install has sudo rights10:18
Choubakaluminerd: man sudoers :)10:18
f_newtonapt is superior to yum without a doubt10:19
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nicholaspaulweird..10:19
Seveasother users have to be granted this permission explicitely10:19
ompaulf_newton, but the guy/gal wants a challange10:19
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Seveasby adding them to either the admin group or the sudoers file10:19
znhmorning chan10:19
Choubakaare there even any official repositories for yum?10:19
PM-aSeepinluminerd:  they disable the root account (which is WEIRD.. no matter though, takes a second flat to enable, and actually works 100% with it disabled as well.. though I always enable it straight away)10:19
f_newtonthe only reason I would go for fedora over ubuntu is that fedora has all on the 4 cds10:19
SeveasChoubaka, yum sucks10:19
f_newtonyum does suck10:19
SeveasPM-aSeepin, it's not weird, it's a Good Thing....10:20
Burgundaviaf_newton, the dvd will give you all of supported10:20
znhf_newton: Fedora is good in messing hisself up :-)10:20
f_newtonand now they are fighting over supremacy in repos10:20
PM-aSeepinbut it's a rock solid system10:20
djpyou only need the one cd in order to get ubuntu up and running...10:20
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f_newtonthat is true but its a scaled down stripped down model ofan os that way10:20
PM-aSeepinSeveas:  it's got it's pro's as well as cons. in the end, it's what you, as the sysadmin of your box, want :)10:20
Choubakaf_newton: You are wrong.10:20
Seveasf_newton, no way :)10:20
f_newtonok10:20
Martin_polandhi, Im from Poland10:20
SeveasPM-aSeepin, :)10:20
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f_newtonI have no choice but to accept that10:20
f_newtonpossibility10:21
c3101thats nice Martin10:21
ChoubakaEvery time I've seen someone talk about their yum repositories they seem to be just a mix of random urls.10:21
Martin_polandthanx10:21
znhMartin_poland: Hi welcome, iam from The Netherlands10:21
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Seveasznh, h ik ook :)10:21
PM-aSeepinI wonder how hard it is to defect to the netherlands10:21
thespiritoftalwhat is i386 and what is x86=10:21
znhSeveas: he leuk :-D10:21
Martin_polandnow I instal Ubuntu10:21
Seveasznh, #ubuntu-nl10:21
Seveas</spam>10:21
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PM-aSeepinI want to defect to australia.10:21
PM-aSeepinlike, seriously.10:22
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c3101congrats MArtin !10:22
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znhMartin_poland: Good choice10:22
f_newtonI have been very pleased with my install so far... I appreciate the fact that ubuntu has stuck more with stability then new shiny10:22
PM-aSeepini want to take my whole family to sydney10:22
PM-aSeepinand stay.10:22
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znhPM-aSeepin: where are you waiting for :-)?10:22
Martin_polandyou think ? Thats good choice ?10:22
PM-aSeepinznh:  I hear it's pretty hard to get in like that10:22
ompaulMartin_poland, of course we do10:23
f_newtonuh australia doesnt allow immigration like that any more?10:23
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PM-aSeepinThey have a lot of very strict criteria you have to meet10:23
luminerdPM-aSeepin, that would be stupid of me.  it would accomplish nothing to disable root...I just said that I WANTED ONLY root to be able to do stuff....if users have all permissions on ubuntu then I am NOT going to use it.10:23
Choubakaluminerd: no, no, no10:23
Burgundavialuminerd, by default on the 1st user gets sudo rights10:23
f_newtonluminerd, you can change that10:23
znhMartin_poland: yes, if you prevourise Operating System was wind*ws, then it's difennetly a very good choice10:23
ompaulluminerd, you are wrong10:23
Burgundavialuminerd, no others have sudo access10:23
PM-aSeepinluminerd:  okay, but you need a user that can su10:23
f_newtonI was rather dismayed by that myself at first10:23
luminerdI don't use sudo at all10:23
f_newtonuntil I read up on it10:23
Choubakaluminerd: disabling root and using sudo actually gives you the chance to define exactly what users can do with root powers.10:24
znhluminerd: you are saying things that are based on nothing10:24
Martin_polandI yes, OS was WinX10:24
Choubakaor as other users.10:24
luminerdompaul, what an idiotic thing to say10:24
Burgundavialuminerd, have you read wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo ?10:24
PM-aSeepinyeah10:24
Martin_polandand now I testing ubuntu10:24
luminerdPM-aSeepin, all users should be able to su....10:24
PM-aSeepinmess up /etc/sudoers just once10:24
PM-aSeepinand watch what happens10:24
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luminerdbut they need the password10:24
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znhMartin_poland: and, what's your first opinion?10:24
luminerdno10:24
luminerdno sudo.10:24
ChoubakaPM-aSeepin: you can't really mess it up if you use visudo10:24
luminerdI would like a normal system.10:24
ompaulluminerd, if you are wrong as I know you are, then when I tell you you are wrong it is not idiotic10:24
luminerdI am not up for learning anything new in order to do this.10:25
PM-aSeepinluminerd:  NOBODY should be able to su to root except people in wheel10:25
f_newtonluminerd remember when you were trying to find 25 just alike machines?10:25
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PM-aSeepinbut we wont get started on linux and wheel10:25
Burgundavialuminerd, add another user after the install. That user will have no admin privs10:25
f_newtonit was a big discussion10:25
luminerdompaul, well it's pretty rude and ridiculously pointless.10:25
znhPeople, we have already told him.. If he don't wants to listen, ignore him10:25
Choubakaluminerd: then do sudo passwd10:25
c3101why they call it "wheel" anyways ?10:25
Choubakaand root will be enabled.10:25
luminerdf_newton, what?10:25
znhc3101: the wheel of admins10:25
f_newtonin fedora10:25
Choubakaand then you can edit sudoers and take sudo power off your regular user.10:25
luminerd...what about it f_newton10:25
c3101aye ~?~ why not "admins"10:26
Martin_polandhmmm, the web Browswer not support perfect with my LCD monitot - font was blury !?10:26
PM-aSeepinhe's not wrong. he has his own preference. isn't that what open source is ABOUT? Being free to decide how you like your eggs?10:26
f_newtonthere were a lot of different suggestions but a thorough examination by you revealed the best choice10:26
Choubakaluminerd: but honestly, once you get used to sudo and learn more about it you'll love it :)10:26
znhc3101: I don't know.. wheel is being used in almost every distribution10:26
luminerdChoubaka, no time.10:26
c3101true10:26
luminerdwednesday morning....wednesday at 5am.10:26
Burgundavialuminerd, to be honest, sudo offers you lots of power. Not much to learn10:26
f_newtonit will take less time10:26
luminerdI have to have this all set up by then10:26
luminerdBurgundavia, ok how does sudo work then10:27
Burgundavialuminerd, very simple10:27
luminerdi read the man pages they make no sense10:27
luminerdso don't tell me to man sudo10:27
luminerd:P10:27
PM-aSeepinwheel is a group used in every other flavor of *nix that i know of. residence in that group gives you the right to assume uid=0 gid=010:27
PM-aSeepinif you're not in wheel, you cannot su10:27
Burgundavialuminerd, the 1st user is allowed to sudo, and any user in the admin group10:27
znhJup10:27
PM-aSeepinto root10:27
Choubakaluminerd: /etc/sudoers defines what users can do as root10:27
Burgundavialuminerd, non sudo users cannot do any "root-like" things10:27
f_newtonthats why I would network install all the machines at once using one root psswd and assigning one thru twenty five user passwords10:27
Andre4sI am trying to install the flash plugin. The installer want the installation path of mozilla. I have tested /usr/lib/mozilla but that did not work. So where is it installed?10:27
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Choubakaon ubuntu the default is to allow the first user and wheelers to do everything using sudo10:28
Burgundavialuminerd, new users that get added ARE NOT added to the admin group10:28
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PM-aSeepinpersonally, I have a root account :) but that's just me10:28
znhIs there anyone here with some network knowlegde?10:28
znhbrb tel10:28
luminerdBurgundavia, that's not making much sense to me10:28
f_newtonbut the problem lumninerd is that fc4 gets broken a lot by its jealous dev teams10:28
luminerdI will only have two accounts...10:28
Martin_polandyes, I have dhis same problem with Flash plugin10:28
luminerdroot and caller10:28
PM-aSeepinthat and its rpm10:28
PM-aSeepinand rpm blows10:28
Choubakaluminerd: of course, you could only give someone the ability to use apt to install and remove programs.10:28
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Choubakaluminerd: or to edit apache configs and restart apache.10:28
Martin_polandbut 2 weeks ago installation OK10:29
Choubakaor stuff like that.10:29
f_newtonrpm doesnt blow PM-aSeepin10:29
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Iceman-AMD64geez, wish more games were out for linux10:29
PM-aSeepinYes, it does. It is the worst - by far - package management system in existance10:29
Iceman-AMD64Multiplayer online10:29
Choubakaand when you use sudo, it always requires the user's own password unless you've defined otherwise.10:29
PM-aSeepini'd rather compile EVERYTHING from source10:29
PM-aSeepinthan use rpm10:29
f_newtonChoubaka, where can I get a package list of what is included on the cd iso?10:29
Choubakaluminerd: read man 5 sudoers for the config syntax.10:29
f_newtonor do I just need to examine the cd?10:30
Choubakaf_newton: It's on the C at leastD. I can get it for you10:30
Andre4swhere is mozilla installed?10:30
PM-aSeepinyaknow10:31
BurgundaviaAndre4s, what part of it?10:31
PM-aSeepini should build a box from scratch10:31
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znhI have a sort of problem.. when Iam transfering data to my laptop via Samba, it goes with a slow speed of 500kb/s.. when I do top on the laptop, the processor is not even being used that many - what is the bottleneck here?10:31
f_newtonIve been customizing my install all day10:31
PM-aSeepincompile _every_ package and install it myself10:31
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f_newtongetting to the point that I like10:31
PM-aSeepinbut just for what i want the box to do10:31
PM-aSeepini bet you it would SCREAM10:31
f_newtonI still need NVU and Crossover Office10:31
ChoubakaI should have ordered some PPC ubuntu install CDs.10:32
Burgundaviaf_newton, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/base/ubuntu-desktop10:32
PM-aSeepinwhat do you need crossover office for?10:32
PM-aSeepinit doesn't do anything wine can't do :>10:32
PM-aSeepinjust with wine you have to do it all by hand ;)10:32
f_newtonwell yes it does PM-aSeepin10:32
ChoubakaHmm, The Ubuntu CD alone doesn't allow much customisation.10:32
PM-aSeepinlike what?10:32
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BurgundaviaChoubaka, no10:32
BurgundaviaChoubaka, the ubuntu cd alone is a purely basic system to get a user up and running10:33
ChoubakaBurgundavia: Yep :)10:33
BurgundaviaChoubaka, your average mom and pop wouldn't need much more though10:33
PM-aSeepinyah you use synaptic for everything else :)10:33
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ChoubakaBurgundavia: yeah.10:33
luminerdwell, thanks guys, that root thing made my decision for me.  no way I'm messing with learning sudo.10:33
PM-aSeepini should write a sources.list manager10:33
Choubakaluminerd: Just enable root then :P10:33
Iceman-AMD64I ordered 5 ppc cd's ... 5 x64 cd's and 10 x86 cd's .. and received them all10:33
PM-aSeepinI think I will10:33
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Choubakaluminerd: there's no messing with sudo that way.10:34
groverIceman-AMD64: now you just have to use em all eh?10:34
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PM-aSeepinsomeone should hack kuser or the gnome um or both and add in /etc/sudoers permissions10:34
PM-aSeepinas settings10:34
Iceman-AMD64grover give them to friends... and use the x64 myself ... now ...10:34
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BurgundaviaPM-aSeepin, what do you mean?10:35
Iceman-AMD64grover ... finaly made the move to 64 bit ...10:35
PM-aSeepinBurgundavia:  someone should modify the popular user managers, and add in settings for that person in /etc/sudoers.. the options selected would be added to /etc/sudoers10:35
PM-aSeepinIceman-AMD64:  the window deco?10:35
luminerdChoubaka, I don't believe that a distro that would by default disable root could be very good in other areas.  I don't understand the reasoning behind that, it blows my mind.  I must admit though, kubuntu DOES look more polished than fc410:35
Choubakaluminerd: Don't be prejudiced!10:36
BurgundaviaPM-aSeepin, it is alreayd there10:36
Iceman-AMD64Microsoft windows xp 64 bit ... and ubuntu 64...10:36
PM-aSeepinwhere?10:36
PM-aSeepinwhich um has that?10:36
BurgundaviaPM-aSeepin, gnome10:36
Choubakaluminerd: Disabling root was a good decision.10:36
matttluminerd:  it means you spend LESS time using root, which is a GOOD thing.  :)10:36
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PM-aSeepinill go look10:36
ChoubakaIt's a needless confusion.10:36
PM-aSeepini always do shit the hard way :D10:36
Choubakasource of* :P10:36
YuWeiany body here know how to setup a d-link dwl-g650+ wireless PCMCIA card?10:36
f_newtonluminerd, ubuntu also seems to have a lot of restricted packages I dont quite understand that10:36
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luminerd*sigh* I'll just do ubuntu.  if it works, it works10:37
Iceman-AMD64Free Download of Windows xp Pro 64 bit ...10:37
luminerdbut is there an ubuntu that comes with kde and gnome, maybe even others?10:37
BurgundaviaPM-aSeepin, properities --> user privs --> executing system administaration...10:37
Choubakaluminerd: yes.10:37
ChoubakaUbuntu10:37
Burgundavialuminerd, ubuntu comes with gnome by default10:37
Iceman-AMD64need to pop- on and download Windows Server 2003 64 bit while it's still available10:37
luminerd...10:37
luminerdyea10:37
luminerdbut...10:37
Burgundavialuminerd, you can instlal kubuntu-desktop for kde10:37
Madpilotluminerd: Ubuntu = Gnome. Kubuntu = KDE10:37
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luminerddude10:37
f_newtonthat makes it a better os in my opinion10:37
luminerdI know that10:37
Choubakaluminerd: not on the CD though.10:37
grover64b works just as well as 32b for me, so I guess that's good10:37
Iceman-AMD64Wish sun would patch java for 64 bit ...10:37
luminerdread my question.....is there an ubuntu that comes with kde and gnome, maybe even others?10:37
Choubakanot on the CD10:38
Burgundavialuminerd, Ubuntu does not ask the user during install about which de, no10:38
PM-aSeepinno, i'm talking about something a lot more complex than that.. but still very easy to use... enabling per-application access by users or groups or combinations of all of the above...10:38
luminerdis there a single command or something easy that I can run through to get a lot of tohers?10:38
crispynix-v6luminerd: Debian does, or you could go for a Knoppix DVD if you want it all on one disc.10:38
Choubakaapt-get install kde10:38
f_newtonthe dvd does though right?10:38
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Iceman-AMD64luminerd kubuntu or ubuntu .. or download the kde desktop from ubuntu10:38
Choubakayou need internet to download those though.10:39
BurgundaviaChoubaka, kubuntu-desktop actually10:39
ChoubakaBurgundavia: well, yeah10:39
Burgundaviaf_newton, the dvd is all of main, and that includes kde10:39
groverapt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:39
crispynix-v6luminerd: knoppix dvd then, just don't try to install from it :p10:39
Burgundavialuminerd, ubuntu contains all the software from debian10:39
PM-aSeepinincluding an all-inclusive 'user has system admin privelages' option10:39
Choubakaluminerd: that's being prejudiced :P10:39
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luminerdok I'll just get kubuntu10:39
Iceman-AMD64need to find linux games ... dang ...10:39
BurgundaviaPM-aSeepin, you want finegrained control over the sudo file?10:39
luminerdChoubaka, I got net on the one machine10:39
ChoubakaDebian is a marvellous system. Ubuntu takes it a step further as a desktop OS :)10:39
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f_newtonpersonally I like the way debian does things10:39
Choubakaluminerd: good. Then it will be easy.10:39
f_newtonI find it faster, less troublesome, and much much easier to update10:39
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znhluminerd: you can also get kubuntu if you have the normal ubuntu, just do the base installation and then install the xserver-xorg, and then the kubuntu-desktop pacakge - done10:39
luminerdthe people in #debian are the biggest *insert your choice of any word here* in the world10:39
Iceman-AMD64ubuntu is growing faster every day10:41
PM-aSeepinBurgundavia:  but still easy for anybody to use.. it would actually be reallye asy to write in python10:41
znhluminerd: faggots?10:41
Burgundaviaf_newton, ubuntu is just debian with polish. Most of the packages are the same10:41
f_newtonyes they are luminerd10:41
Choubakaluminerd: the most complicated thing you may have to do is enable the universe repositories.10:41
crispynix-v6luminerd: only a few, actually10:41
Iceman-AMD64? lammers ...10:41
luminerdznh, that works.10:41
crispynix-v6luminerd: ... hmm, now I'm wondering why your name sounds familiar ;o10:41
znhluminerd: nah comes nearby10:41
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f_newtoni can install deb packages in ubuntu without causing update problems?10:41
BurgundaviaIceman-AMD64, znh there is no need to bash debian. Please remember the Ubuntu code of conduct10:41
Burgundaviaf_newton, yes10:41
Iceman-AMD64Got myself banned from #slackware ... and made a legit requist for assistance10:41
Choubakaf_newton: from Debian's repositories?10:41
Choubakaf_newton: Not recommended.10:41
Burgundaviaf_newton, almost everything is already in the ubuntu repos, via debian10:41
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luminerdwhat's the dif betweeen aptitude install and apt-get install?10:41
PM-aSeepinyeah remember if it werent for debian, ubuntu would be a completely different creature10:41
f_newtonso far luminard with the exception of this being a debian base instead of an rpm based its a lot like fedora only more stable10:41
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Iceman-AMD64not bashing debian... tried it ... just a little cumbersom for me10:41
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Choubakaluminerd: well, nothing in particular10:41
znhBurgundavia: okay sorry10:41
Choubakaonly aptitude installs recommended packages too by default10:42
f_newtonwell Ive yet to find nvu10:42
Choubakaf_newton: it's in universe I guess.10:42
f_newtonI downloaded it via the nvu site but10:42
f_newtonhavent found it10:42
Burgundaviaf_newton, not in hoary10:42
Iceman-AMD64just slackware and debian support seems lacking ... they expect you to be a wiz, even if your a newbie10:42
Burgundaviaf_newton, it is in backports10:42
luminerdok ummm10:47
f_newtonwhat is backports?10:47
luminerdI am downloading Kubuntu10:47
PM-aSeepinluminerd:  aptitude tracks dependencies a lot better... when you need to uninstall an app, aptitude takes the files that came with it that are no longer being used10:47
Burgundavia!backports10:47
ubotuI heard backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted10:47
PM-aSeepinand gets rid of them too10:47
luminerdwhen I get it I'm going to aptitude install gnome-desktop?10:47
guillaumehluminerd: aptitude keeps a log of what you do, and it uninstall unused libraries automatically10:47
PM-aSeepinit's actually kinda nice10:47
luminerdI see10:47
f_newton I use synaptic not aptitude10:47
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f_newtonnever seen aptitude10:47
ChoubakaHm10:47
ChoubakaThis all _is_ kind of confusing10:47
Choubaka:P10:47
Burgundaviaf_newton, aptitude is a commandline app10:47
f_newtonah ok10:47
PM-aSeepinnow does aptitude only track that shit for apps that IT installed, or does it track all installed packages?10:47
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f_newtonhow can it track apps it didnt deal with?10:47
luminerdaptitude install gnome-desktop?10:47
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Choubakaluminerd: should install gnome, iirc.10:47
Draucondoes blam support atom?10:47
luminerdChoubaka, thanks10:47
ompaulPM-aSeepin, they all (apt-get, aptitude, synaptic) all track the same packages10:47
PM-aSeepinapt keeps a log.. it could analyze it10:47
BurgundaviaDraucon, not the version in hoary10:47
Choubakaluminerd: learn apt-cache search10:47
BurgundaviaChoubaka, ubuntu-desktop10:47
PM-aSeepinompaul:  but they dont all do it the same way.. aptitude does it a LOT better10:47
Burgundavialuminerd, the default install of Ubuntu already has gnome installed10:47
luminerdChoubaka, no time for learning10:47
Choubakaapt-cache search keywords <- will search for keywords10:47
luminerdBurgundavia, not kubuntu though10:47
Burgundavialuminerd, no10:47
Choubakain the package repo.10:47
PM-aSeepinand synaptic is a front end for apt-get10:47
PM-aSeepinnot much more.10:47
luminerdkubuntu's what I'm getting.10:47
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Burgundavialuminerd, kubuntu and ubuntu share the same repos10:47
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ompaulPM-aSeepin, they use the same base information, how it gets presented is another issue10:47
Burgundavialuminerd, you can install one and get the other by installing (k)ubuntu-desktop10:47
luminerddon't care.  I'm getting kubuntu.10:47
luminerdyea10:47
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luminerdwell kubuntu's nearly dl'ed already10:47
luminerdso I'll get ubuntu-desktop I guess10:47
luminerdaptitude install ubuntu-desktop?10:47
luminerdit'll search the net and whatnot?10:47
Choubakayes10:47
Burgundavialuminerd, yes10:47
Choubakaluminerd: You'll want to edit the sources a bit.10:47
Choubakato enable the universe10:47
AvatarofVirgoWhat software do I use to play DVDs in ubuntu?10:47
f_newtondang hit the wrong button that time!10:47
BurgundaviaAvatarofVirgo, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:47
PM-aSeepinompaul the question was: Is aptitude capable of monitoring the installation and dependencies of packages installed by apt? And if it isn't capable of this, why not, and how hard would it be to code considering how downright handy such a feature would be?10:47
Choubakajust edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the lines with universe :)10:47
Choubakaand then do aptitude update10:47
BurgundaviaPM-aSeepin, aptitude uses the same backend as any of the dpkg utilities10:47
Choubakathen you'll have access to the "unsupported" packages too10:47
luminerdthanks guys10:47
f_newtonnope not there10:47
concept10Burgundavia, Im wondering, if backports are official - when will I be able to search with packages.ubuntu.org10:47
luminerdChoubaka, I don't want to edit anything.10:47
PM-aSeepinBurgundavia:  yeah, but aptitude tracks dependencies differently. it also behaves a little differently10:49
Choubakaluminerd: why not? It's simple.10:49
concept10f_newton, your looking for nvu?10:49
f_newtonwell I apologize to you Burgundavia, my statement was rash and ill informed10:49
luminerdChoubaka, not enough time.10:49
Burgundaviaconcept10, I suspect that p.u.c has not yet caught up with that stuff10:49
Burgundaviaf_newton, np10:49
ompaulaptitude - high-level interface to the package manager, apt-get - APT package handling utility -- command-line interface - they are different fronts to the same back if you want a bad way to explain it10:49
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f_newtonvia the repo yes concept1010:49
Choubakaluminerd: That edit takes about 5 seconds :P10:49
luminerdwednesday morning dude.  5am.  that gives me like, what...almost exactly 1 day to work on this10:49
luminerdok10:49
PM-aSeepinokay, you're missing the point10:49
f_newtonI already have the tar.bz210:49
luminerdwell10:49
PM-aSeepinnevermind10:49
luminerd5 seconds I can afford10:49
luminerdlol10:49
concept10i dont think nvu 1.0 is in the repos10:49
f_newtonits not10:49
ompaulPM-aSeepin, is your point that aptitude will install more per package requested?10:49
Choubakaluminerd: 1 day is plenty. :)10:49
PM-aSeepindid anybody else get the point?10:49
PM-aSeepinno10:49
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f_newtonbut  to answer the wine vs crossover question... I have to run publisher and publisher runs like crap in wine without the crossover proprietary stuff10:51
PM-aSeepinmy point is if i install package a and it installs packages b, c, d, e, & f... aptitude, when removing package a, will also remove the rest if nothing else depends ont hem.. apt will remove package a10:51
c3101ompaul, aptitude uses libapt-pkg to perform it's functions, it recognisez all the dependencies as apt does10:51
f_newtonapt does what now?10:51
luminerdgtg bbl thanks10:51
PM-aSeepinwhat i would like to see aptitude do is be able to provide the kind of removal system it does for things that were not installed via aptitude10:51
f_newtonI need to start using aptitude?10:51
f_newtoninstead of apt-get?10:51
Choubakaf_newton: you don't need to10:51
PM-aSeepin(I still use apt-get, but i would start using aptitude for all my removals if it worked like that)10:51
f_newtonI dont remove much10:51
f_newtonbut I do clean all a lot10:51
Superfroghi i have  aproblem with my wlan, i use ndiswrapper to wrap my windows "siemens usb adapter 54 driver"  and it works BUT from time to time  my wlan goes offline and my keyboard or my mouse doesn'T work , does anybody have same expereances?10:51
PM-aSeepinwhoa10:53
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PM-aSeepinthat's gotta suck10:53
Superfrogyup10:53
c3101sounds crappy10:53
SeveasPM-aSeepin, aptitude removes unneeded dependencies indeed10:53
SeveasPM-aSeepin, and debfoster can clean things up for you if you didn't use aptitude :)10:53
PM-aSeepinSeveas:  ones that were installed by apt?10:53
Seveasyup10:53
PM-aSeepinaptitude does trackt hem then?10:53
PM-aSeepinor at least looks at how they got there10:53
PM-aSeepinand takes the rest away as well?10:53
Deterministany decent menu editor for gnome that's stable and works?10:53
Seveashmm, I meant debfoster there, but i'm pretty sure aptitude does that too (it builds the dependency graph every time)10:53
ompaulPM-aSeepin, this is your point I think,  http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=11164910:53
concept10f_newton, do you have crossover office?10:57
PM-aSeepinah, thats what iw anted to clarify, Seveas .. wouldnt that be a nice feature though.. doesnt seem like it would be too hard.. installation records are kept forever (until the package is removed, at least), right?10:57
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Seveasif you install with aptitude :)10:57
PM-aSeepinblah10:57
Seveasthe Ubuntu installer (when you install the system) uses aptitude too :)10:57
PM-aSeepinold habits die hard10:57
Seveastrue10:57
Choubakajust alias aptitude as apt-get10:57
Seveasi had to alias apt-get='echo Use aptitude!!' to get used to it :)10:57
PM-aSeepinheh10:57
PM-aSeepinbut i like apt-get10:57
SeveasChoubaka, that won't help, you still type apt-get :)10:57
PM-aSeepini know my way around it10:57
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PM-aSeepinpretty well10:57
SeveasPM-aSeepin, aptitude does pretty much the same and more10:57
Seveasaptitude install packagename10:57
Seveasaptitude remove packagename10:57
Seveasaptitude purge packagename10:57
Seveasetc...10:57
ChoubakaI tend to use feta though10:57
Choubakano need for even sudo :D10:57
luminerdok I'm off the clock :P10:57
Choubakajust feta install package :P10:57
PM-aSeepinoooh10:58
ompaulPM-aSeepin, sure if you do that alias and then do this /usr/bin/apt-get when you really want to use apt-get your karma would go up at least 2.33333. points10:58
PM-aSeepinaptitude looks kinda nice10:58
luminerdnow I can talk about personal stuff....like how much I'd die for some newegg crap right now10:58
Choubakaand feta changelog package and stuff10:58
davixhow do I set the cursor theme in ubuntu?10:58
PM-aSeepindidnt know it had an interface10:58
Seveasdavix, install gcursor10:58
SeveasPM-aSeepin, :)10:58
luminerdanyone know a good chan for discussion of hardware?10:58
Seveasit's a bit like dselect10:58
davixtnx Seveas.10:58
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luminerdguess not :/11:00
f_newtonluminerd, heres something11:04
f_newtonubuntu seems to handle hardware better11:04
luminerdhuh?11:04
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c3101just got e17 going on ubuntu11:04
znhuname without flags is extreamly detailed11:04
luminerdW00t!!!11:04
luminerdc3101, e17 R0x0rzzz11:04
f_newtonstuff that gives you problems in fedora dont in ubuntu11:04
Seveasznh, :)11:04
Choubakac3101: how much trouble was it? :D11:04
luminerdf_newton, well ok but I'm done with that topic I'm off the clock lol11:04
c3101it's wicked, just wish they had gui stuff for the config, enlightenment_remote SUCK11:04
znhc3101: watch your laungage please11:04
luminerdwhere can I discuss hardware...ie I found something on newegg, have a url to the piece, and want to ask if it's compatible and/or if it would work good or what people think, etc11:04
c3101not too much trouble, just get the build order for all the libs right11:04
f_newtonyeah well I want you to make the right choice for your needs and I am a long time rh dude with fedora since day one11:04
Choubakaluminerd: you could check the wiki11:04
f_newtonthere is a good hardware list11:04
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luminerdChoubaka, err...wiki of what11:04
luminerdno no no11:04
luminerdnot releated to linux11:04
ChoubakaAhh.11:04
cisahi, i try to build the linux module for the intel pro/100 VE onboard chipset. therefor i need the kernel sources and/or headers . but i can't find them by browsing the pool directory on an ubuntu mirror.11:04
ChoubakaHmm11:04
luminerdjust hardware for my pc lol11:04
ChoubakaNo idea. :P11:04
luminerdhehe ok11:04
znhluminerd: #hardware11:04
PM-aSeepinhey what's the name of the little gnome tray thing that monitors for package upgrades and runs them through synaptic?11:04
Seveascisa, sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:04
Choubakagnome-update-manager or something11:04
znhSeveas: haven't I see you before in some other channel?11:04
cisaSeveas: how with no network-card :)11:04
znhcisa: how could you browse on the pool directory of a ubuntu mirror then?11:06
Seveascisa, grab the package from a mirror, put it on usb stick etc... :)11:06
cisaSeveas: i want to build a driver for the onboard chipset11:06
c3101hmm, surely the pro100 is in the ubuntu kernel ?11:06
SeveasPM-aSeepin, dennis@mirage ~ $ apt-cache search update | grep manager11:06
Seveasupdate-manager - GNOME application that manages apt updates11:06
znhI have a intel pro 100, works fine :-/11:06
Seveasznh, possibly, i'm in a lot of #ubuntu channels :)11:06
cisaSeveas: but i can't find the package on an mirror11:06
cisas/an/a/11:06
Seveascisa, what is the output of uname -r?11:06
luminerdznh, heh, 18 ppz, it's a start, thanks :) I found #hardware on efnet has about 80 so I think I'll hang there.11:06
luminerdsweet.11:06
luminerdthanks guys11:06
PM-aSeepinfound it11:06
cisaSeveas: its probably the 2.6.9 from hoary base install11:06
c3101cisa , have you tried sudo modprobe eepro100  ?11:06
PM-aSeepinjust like that, too11:06
PM-aSeepinheh11:06
PM-aSeepingmta11:06
znhluminerd: pleasure11:06
Seveascisa, just give the output :)11:06
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Seveashmm c3101 right....11:07
cisaSeveas: i cant do it now11:07
Seveasthat module indeed exists :)11:07
PM-aSeepinoh it does the most beautiful thing for sources.list11:07
znhyea.. why don't you guys believe me xD11:08
cisac3101: hmm, no i didn't try this.11:08
cisac3101: i really should11:08
cisac3101: will do it now. thanks.11:08
c3101:)11:08
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PM-aSeepinoooh wait11:09
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PM-aSeepinmost of these updates are from backports11:09
PM-aSeepini dont know about all that11:09
f_newtonis backports something like retrieving something from a previous version ?11:10
PM-aSeepinno i think its for stuff in development for future versions11:10
Seveasno11:10
znhf_newton: Or extreamly new packages that ruin your pc :-)11:10
PM-aSeepinthat could be wrong though11:10
Seveasfrom a newer version11:10
c3101f_newton, it's like retrieving something from the next version, compiled for the current version11:10
PM-aSeepinyeah i thought so11:10
f_newtonI see11:10
Seveasbackports are packages for newer versions compiled to work with an older version11:10
Seveasso in the hoary-backports case: packages from breezy compiled to work with hoary11:11
f_newtonwell there is a deb version of nvu compiled for the kernel that ubuntu installed on the machine11:11
f_newtonbut I make no assumptions11:11
kestasdoes anyone know; is the stack frame the stack from ESP up to EBP?11:12
PM-aSeepinhrmm11:12
f_newtonI have to make this servicable for my required needs or it will be a pointless, albeit enjoyable, exercise11:12
Seveaskestas, waaay off topic dude :)11:12
kestasSeveas: #asm arent biting :(11:12
PM-aSeepinaptitude update starts up a hell of a lot slower than apt-get update, heh11:12
SeveasPM-aSeepin, due to all the extra administration it does11:12
Seveaskestas, too bad, I hope for you someone in here knows...11:13
f_newtonits still mucho faster then yum or up2date11:13
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SeveasiAmAway, please turn of that script11:13
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f_newtonI thought dalnet was the only place you could play like that11:14
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Kev0rmorning Seveas thought bots never slept ;)11:14
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SeveasKev0r, we don't :)11:14
Kev0ryou where away tonight11:15
Seveasthat did not mean I was sleeping11:16
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Kev0rsmart ass O_o11:16
SeveasI have lots of other tasks :)11:16
PM-aSeepinyour system is up to date11:16
Kev0rnever heard of interrupts?11:16
PM-aSeepinwerd up11:16
PM-aSeepinjust have to remember to turn off backports before i run that thing11:16
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f_newtonI dont think I want to enable backports11:17
SeveasKev0r, sometimes I block all interrupts for high-priority scheduled tasks :)11:17
f_newtonI like a good running system11:17
PM-aSeepinthat updater has a sources.list editor, but it has no option to just comment out a source, like toggle it on and off11:17
Kamping_KaiserI'm using an apple keyboard and mouse on a standard pc :O11:17
PM-aSeepinthat would be bice11:17
Kev0rThen ur mouse is not able to work11:17
f_newtonand Ive already found a few .... glitches11:17
cisaok, i tried eepro100 - it doesn't work. uname -sr says 2.6.10-5-386.11:17
f_newtonnothing major at all11:17
Seveasf_newton, backports aren't guaranteed to work :)11:17
f_newtonI will not use them11:17
PM-aSeepinyeah11:17
PM-aSeepinbackports are kinda like keeping on the edge with fc.. only considerably more stable11:18
f_newtonI still have to get publisher working on the box11:18
f_newtonmore stable then fc?11:18
rob^f_newton, are you using the official ones?11:18
concept10f_newton, do you have crossover?11:18
Seveascisa, describe 'doesn't work'11:18
f_newtonyes rpm11:18
PM-aSeepinthan staying ont he edge with fc11:18
PM-aSeepinyes11:18
f_newtonnot tar11:18
f_newtoncrossover pro11:18
PM-aSeepinhell, this is more stable than fc, period.11:19
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topylif_newton: the only thing really worth getting from backports are the stuff in hoary-extras that are not available otherwise11:19
SeveasPM-aSeepin, :)11:19
PM-aSeepinand a hell of a lot easier to use11:19
PM-aSeepinand11:19
f_newtonwell all i need is crossover pro and nvu for real time site editing11:19
PM-aSeepinif you didnt catch me last time11:19
PM-aSeepinRPM SUCKS11:19
cisaSeveas: ifconfig eth0 up - no such device :)11:19
f_newtonpm11:19
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PM-aSeepin:D11:19
f_newtonPM-aSeepin, i am not going to debate that with you11:19
SeveasPM-aSeepin, language ....11:19
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cisaSeveas: and dmesg only shows generic driver informations on modprobe11:20
Seveas(you're right though :))11:20
Seveascisa, odd11:20
f_newtonpersonally I like the debian package system better11:20
f_newtonbut rpm works fine11:20
Seveasdoes lsmod show the module as loaded?11:20
PM-aSeepinSeveas:  sucks isnt even close to bad, ESPECIALLY when you're talking about rpm11:20
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cisaSeveas: yes11:20
Seveascisa ifconfig -a shown no extra interfaces?11:21
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PM-aSeepinhow much additional audio/video support would i get by recompiling xmms? won't it pretty much support everything that mplayer and kaffeine and so on do?11:21
SeveasPM-aSeepin, recompiling gives you nothing extra11:22
PM-aSeepinare there plugins for like w32codecs, libfaad2, etc?11:22
Drauconanyone use pan here11:22
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Seveasraises*11:23
PM-aSeepinDraucon:  every time I cook ramen noodles11:23
cisaSeveas: didn't look at this. i have looked up intel.com for a driver and found one wich name is e100 after build. so i thought e100 from the kernel would do the job11:23
SeveasDraucon, pan is nice :)11:23
Drauconfunny PM:P11:23
PM-aSeepinhey man, I try11:23
Drauconis there anyway to associate attachments with applications like in agent11:23
cisaSeveas: also i wonder why i can't find the kernel-headers on one of the ubuntu mirrors11:23
SeveasDraucon, hmm, not that I know of11:24
Seveascisa, try modprobe e100 then :)11:24
DrauconSeveas thanks11:24
Seveascisa, they are in the package linux-headers-something11:24
PM-aSeepinare there any newsservers out there with a full a.b that are free?11:24
Seveaswhere something is the output of uname -r11:24
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Seveasand the are in pool/l/linux-source-2.6.10/ (for hoary)11:24
SeveasPM-aSeepin, ar you kidding? :)11:24
PM-aSeepinspecifically a.b.cd.images.xbox :-D11:24
f_newtonPM-aSeepin, ... usenet is a subscription service11:25
PM-aSeepinSeveas:  wishful thinking, m811:25
Seveas:)11:25
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PM-aSeepinf_newton:  not always.. there are PLENTY of newsservers that do not offer a.b that are as free as the wind itself11:25
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Seveasmy provider gives mee free access to giganews, that's not too bad11:25
SeveasPM-aSeepin, hehe, tru, I even run my own newsserver ;)11:25
cisaSeveas: i tried each e100 and eepro100. both didn't work. cold you give me a mirror where i can find these packages?11:25
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Seveascisa, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/11:26
PM-aSeepinthat's right, buckaroo, you're building a kernel module11:26
PM-aSeepinyou have yourself a good time with that11:27
asad2k5I have a folder in /root and configuration files in /etc and would like to create a tar file so that if extracted will put the folder and files in the right place11:27
cisaSeveas: DOH! i looked at11:27
cisahttp://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu/archive/11:27
PM-aSeepinasad2k5:  cheat and use ark and tll it to preserve directory structure11:27
Seveascisa, that is just a backports archive...11:28
asad2k5PM-aSeepin, can you give command to do that11:28
f_newtonlol'11:28
PM-aSeepinark11:28
cisaSeveas: slap me please :)11:28
asad2k5PM-aSeepin, I mean directly from command line an example possible11:29
Seveascisa, no thanks, i'm not into spanking that much ;)11:29
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PM-aSeepinark ~/newtarball.tgz11:29
PM-aSeepini dunno11:29
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ompaulSeveas, what is 'that much' in terms of quantity? :-)11:29
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PM-aSeepintype ark11:29
PM-aSeepindrag directories into it from konqueror11:30
PM-aSeepinand save it as a file11:30
PM-aSeepin*shrug*11:30
Seveasompaul, that information comes only on need-to-know basis :)11:30
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PM-aSeepinfrom the command line i dunno... i dont do manual tarballs :D11:30
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cisaSeveas: i need build-essential too?11:31
Seveasprobably11:31
Seveasbut that's a metapackage for gcc etc, you will need to download these separately....11:31
PM-aSeepinwhy?11:32
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cisaSeveas: hmm, can i get a list with that packages?11:32
Seveascisa, sure, hang on11:33
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PM-aSeepinwhy would you need to download them seperate? I'm just curious11:33
SeveasPM-aSeepin, he has no apt11:33
PM-aSeepinoh11:33
PM-aSeepinshitty11:33
PM-aSeepinwow11:33
cisaPM-aSeepin: i want to build a driver for the network card11:33
PM-aSeepinbut why do you not have apt?11:33
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SeveasPM-aSeepin, no network connection :)11:34
PM-aSeepingotchya11:34
cisaalso i think i will write an article on the wiki for that card11:34
PM-aSeepinthat was the missing piece11:34
cisabecause its onboard in a dell inspiron 510011:34
PM-aSeepinscrew it11:34
PM-aSeepinim not taking him to court11:34
PM-aSeepinhe can take himself, or his girl can take him, as long as they have the car back by 4 and they put gas in it i dont care11:35
PM-aSeepinshe's actually a pretty good driver11:35
PM-aSeepinim not getting up at noon :D11:35
PM-aSeepinmy wife's gonna pay for my books and cert costs for any cert or set of certs i want11:36
Seveascisa, i'm uploading the complete set of packages now11:36
PM-aSeepinhow much is linux+ and what dist does it want you to use?11:36
Seveashttp://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/build-essential.tar.gz11:36
PM-aSeepincause i sure as hell do not want mcse11:36
Seveasthat contains all .debs11:36
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ompaulPM-aSeepin, it likes RPM based distros (RH when I looked at it a couple of years ago) - look at LPI more independent certification11:37
PM-aSeepinLPI?11:37
SeveasLinux Professional Institute11:37
Seveasnice certification organization11:37
Seveasthe upcoming Ubuntu Certification programme will be based on it11:38
ompaulwww.lpi.org11:38
cisaSeveas: thank you. now i got the headers an build-essential. i think i can reboot and try it now, or do i need something else?11:38
Seveasit should be enough11:38
PM-aSeepinokay, now here's the deal.. i know my way around a box regardless... what certifications are more accredited by prospective employers? THAT's what Iw ant to know11:38
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cisaSeveas: ok, thank you. will report the success here :)11:39
cisabbl11:39
SeveasMCSE, RHCE, LPI11:39
PM-aSeepincause to me certs dont mean dick, but if i want the job, i gotta gett he cert11:39
Seveasin order of usual preference11:40
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PM-aSeepinwhy would they want mcse for *nix admins??11:40
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PM-aSeepinI don't want to work on microsoft networks.. i'll happily take the drop in pay11:40
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concept10General computer knowledge11:40
PM-aSeepinas long as i can make about 65k, i dont care11:40
concept10Amen.11:41
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PM-aSeepinI've been *itching* to design a network, too11:41
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PM-aSeepinI've got the ultimate call-center setup in my head11:42
PM-aSeepinand it's purdy11:42
concept10PM-aSeepin, the furniture setup?11:42
PM-aSeepinno, the network. See, I have worked in a couple of tech-support call centers11:42
PM-aSeepinand i know how they run11:43
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concept10PM-aSeepin, jk11:43
PM-aSeepinI could put together a call-center network that would operate at 95% or better efficiency 97% or better of the time11:43
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PM-aSeepinall freebsd and linux11:43
PM-aSeepinlinux frontend for the callcenter floor, and freebsd ont he backend11:44
siimoanyone know how to test grub after installing it while still in the chroot ? i remember typing some command and it simulated grub starting and showed the boot menu11:44
concept10why do people change thier name to show they are away?11:44
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Seveassiimo, grub11:44
PM-aSeepinespecially when they're talkin, eh11:44
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concept10heh11:44
siimoSeveas, that only shows the grub prompt i want to see the list of os's11:44
concept10I dont even know the command11:45
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PurpleMotionwhat command?11:45
concept10alias change11:45
PurpleMotionheh /nick whatever11:45
concept10away name11:45
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PurpleMotionthere ya go11:45
KiwiWikiHey. I've setup the wine sourceforge sources, but i see that it has no wine-utils package, and it won't install the wine from the default ubuntu repos...11:46
PurpleMotionyou must be from nz11:46
PurpleMotionand i dunno, sorry11:46
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KiwiWikiPurpleMotion, actually no, but I'm going there soon :)11:46
KiwiWikiso i've got kiwis on my mind :)11:46
PurpleMotionright on11:46
PurpleMotionfuture kiwi11:46
concept10shouldbnow i cant change back11:47
KiwiWikiheheh11:47
PurpleMotionconcept10shouldb:  /nick concept1011:47
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PurpleMotionSeveas:  which certs can i just take the test for? like just study a book and take the test11:49
Seveasread the lpi.org site :)11:49
PurpleMotioni take it it's that one11:49
KiwiWikibtw, PurpleMotion, your nick rings a bell as well.. wasn't it the guy who wrote the music for Future Crew or something?11:49
PurpleMotionok11:49
PurpleMotionKiwiWiki:  sure was11:49
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PurpleMotionhe also wrote screamtracker11:49
KiwiWikiriiight.11:49
KiwiWikinice :)11:49
KiwiWikicool frood, that guy.11:50
PurpleMotionthent here was a purplemotion who was a 3 time admin ond alnet11:50
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PurpleMotionnow he hangs out here11:50
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KiwiWikiheheh11:50
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concept10PurpleMotion, got sids?11:51
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topylihrm. ooo2 sure is a big download11:51
PurpleMotionsids?11:51
PurpleMotionsudden infant death syndrome?11:51
ompaulPurpleMotion, https://wall.lpi.org/en/obj_101.html tells you some stuff about LPI exam Level 111:51
concept10nevermind11:51
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concept10you still write music?11:52
PurpleMotionI never did.. at least not on a computer11:52
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PurpleMotionRazor-X:  it's winter time there, eh m8?11:52
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concept10what did you write on?11:53
Razor-XPurpleMotion: no, I just don't feel like sleeping ;)11:53
PurpleMotionhaha11:53
PurpleMotioni mean its the cold season, though,r ight?11:53
Razor-XPurpleMotion: no11:53
Razor-Xwarm season, meh11:53
PurpleMotionwall.lpi.org is really not wanting to load for me11:53
Razor-X(i.e summer XD)11:53
PurpleMotionah someone told me otherwise, my bad11:53
pvanhoofis the responsible for the breezy autotools env. packages here?11:53
Razor-XPurpleMotion: opposite from the Southern Hemisphere, IIRC11:53
Razor-Xyeah, my mpd is being stupid ;)11:54
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pvanhoofand/or who should I contact if I have a question about something specific about ubuntu11:54
Razor-XPurpleMotion: i'm American11:54
nick3hey, when i install ubuntu it wont let me make a user account just keeps going around in a circule. can anyone help11:54
Seveaspvanhoof, you can find out who the maintainer is by looking at the package information...11:54
Razor-Xanyways, my mpd client can't connect, and when I try and run mpd with my conf file, it randomly can't read or write to db11:54
Razor-Xand I can't seem to understand why11:54
PurpleMotionyaknow i always thought you were from .au11:54
PurpleMotionLOL11:55
Seveasand questions can be asked in here :)11:55
Razor-XPurpleMotion: meh, no, i'm not ;)11:55
PurpleMotionlol11:55
pvanhoofSeveas, but he's not online/available?11:55
PurpleMotionthats funny11:55
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Seveaspvanhoof, I don't even know who maintains them :)11:55
Razor-Xand also, the daemon's open port is not in netstat11:56
Razor-Xtrue I can stick with cplay, but what's the fun in that, no? ;)11:56
linlini need an application that can do screen captures11:56
linlinin video form11:57
linlinlike snagit on windows11:57
Seveaslinlin, gnome-screenshot11:57
Seveas(or simply the [PrtScr]  button11:57
Seveas)11:57
topylilinlin: there's something that makes flash animations11:57
Razor-XSeveas: you know a console equivalent for video screen captures?11:57
Seveasnope11:57
Razor-Xuggh, damn ;)11:58
linlinflash would be bad11:58
Razor-XI simple use xwd -out blah.xwd11:58
linlini need an avi or an mpeg or someting liek that11:58
Razor-Xand then convert blah.xwd blah.png11:58
linlini need video, not a still image11:58
Razor-Xbut, again, that's a picture, not a video11:58
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topylilinlin: i'm not aware of any11:59
linlindarn :-/11:59
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linlinlooks liek ill have to use vnc over to a windows machine with snagit11:59
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Raptoidselamlar..12:00
Razor-Xlinlin: or you can use VLC12:00
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Razor-Xlinlin: VLC can stream out your desktop -- and save the stream12:00
linlintaht would work12:00
rowanjlA quick question, why doesn't firefox install extensions? Perhaps there is a permissions issue?12:01
linlineasy to use?12:01
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Razor-Xlinlin: here you go12:01
Razor-Xsomething made just for your purpose12:01
Razor-Xxvidcap12:01
linlinjsut found that on freshmeat :)12:01
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Razor-Xanyways, night12:01
topylilinlin: vncrec + transcode magic: http://linuxgazette.net/102/washko.html12:01
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linlinbut i wanted to avoid vnc cause of the slowness, i want it so be fluent nice looking video12:02
PurpleMotionfrig12:02
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PurpleMotionthey had to include vi12:03
topylilinlin: ah12:03
PurpleMotioni hate vi12:03
linlinthanks though :)12:03
Mastaki|lahanyone. answer my question?12:03
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keyeshello, i've actived "xcompmgr -c" at gnome start, it's works fine but any windows (like firefox or xchat) in full size mode is covering the gnome-panel12:03
topyliPurpleMotion: if there's a machine without vi, the world will come to an end12:03
keyesdoes anyone have an issue for that ?12:03
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topylinot that i like it much either12:03
PurpleMotionheh12:03
PurpleMotionyeah12:03
SeveasMastaki|lah, i've seen no question yet :)12:03
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PurpleMotiondefinately outlived its usefulness12:03
nick3well i guess im not going to get any help here i may as well just install debian12:04
topyliit's just that when you walk to a box, you'll know there'll be vi12:04
Mastaki|lahI have 2 HDDs in c i have win xp pro. and i would like to instal ubuntu linux to this HDD. Can it be done without formatting or losing any data from the disc in question.12:04
Razor-Xhehe12:04
Razor-Xqtorrent kicks ass12:04
Razor-XAzureus was slow, nice download speed, but hogged my system12:05
linlinsame here, even on windows12:05
rowanjlSo nobody has had any trouble with firefox not installing extensions?12:05
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PurpleMotionokay so all this i just read about the lpi still didnt answer my question, heh.. can i just study up and take the test or do i have to take a class?12:05
f_newtonthat brings up the question in my mind about ubuntu and software raid sata12:05
Razor-Xqtorrent... mmmm, 110 k/s down, 0 k/s up12:05
topylinick3: you have a ten-minute patience12:05
Razor-X;)12:05
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linlinrowanjl, what extentions12:05
rowanjlWeb developer and Adblock12:05
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SeveasMastaki|lah, nope12:05
Seveasyou will need to create empty partitions for linux12:06
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PurpleMotionokay, found that part12:06
Harlin<- first time install of Ubuntu (Mandriva user), installing on VMWare12:06
PurpleMotioni can just take the test12:06
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Seveasso if you want to keep your data: move it somewhere else or shrink the partition12:06
PurpleMotionnow to figure out how much it costs12:06
rowanjlNow if only I could place your name :P12:06
topylirowanjl: the mediaplayerconnectivity plugin fails here with ff 1.0.612:06
nick3topyli more like 3 days of getting no help at all12:06
Harlinit seems to take a long time to install Ubuntu (5.04), any reason for that?12:06
linlinHarlin, your noing it on vmware12:06
SeveasPurpleMotion, quite a bit :)12:06
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SeveasHarlin, vmware is slow...12:07
rowanjltopyli, I think this is a general issue with permissions, Firefox doesn't even give an error12:07
linlin**doing12:07
Mastaki|lahok. i might burn the data to dvds but its a really big number of dvds im gonna need.. tnx anyway12:07
topylinick3: maybe you have a weird problem and no-one here has seen it. try the mailing lists12:07
PurpleMotiona hundred dollars a test is a lot of money?12:07
PurpleMotionpfft12:07
PurpleMotioni know what im doing for the next couple months12:07
Harlinlinlin Seveas... not on my box, it usually isnt... then again perhaps slow is a relative term :)12:07
spiralI have a mail problem - my mail server emails some addresses just fine (like my gmail account), but does not successfuly email other servers (like my yahoo account).  What could be the problem?12:07
SeveasPurpleMotion, hmm, I thought it was more expensive than that :)12:07
PurpleMotionim tired of being broke12:07
PurpleMotionim getting certified12:07
PurpleMotionand getting a friggen job12:07
linlinMastaki|lah, maybe you could transfer the data to another machine on your lan?12:07
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SeveasPurpleMotion, good attitude :)12:08
f_newtonlol Ive been certifiable for years...12:08
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f_newtonoh wait thats not what you mean is it?12:08
PurpleMotionhey, i havent had a cigarette in fifteen days, either12:08
PurpleMotion*uNF*12:08
rowanjlI'm a certified couch potato12:08
nick3topyli i have found others with the problem but no real answers12:08
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linlincrap...that xvidcap wont compile12:08
f_newtoncongratulations PurpleMotion12:08
Harlinwouldnt waste my time on certifications.. very useless12:08
PurpleMotionty12:08
spiralwhy don't you just give up trying to give up12:08
MadpilotPurpleMotion: well, not buy cigs will pay for a lot of exams - congrats12:08
PurpleMotionHarlin:  you need them to get a job. period.12:08
Madpilot*buying12:08
spiralembrace your addiction..your identity12:08
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f_newtonsaid like a true holder of certs trying to keep others from getting them too12:08
Mastaki|lahUnfortunately there is no other comps on LAN. But i found a solution.12:09
HarlinPurpleMotion: i have 1 (A+) and that's it. Ive been in the field for about 7 years12:09
rowanjlBleh back later, downloading stuff12:09
HarlinPurpleMotion: my cert did nothing for me12:09
PurpleMotionyup, and EVERYBODY requires A+, even though the cert is 100% shite12:09
PurpleMotionbut without it you cant even get a lowly tech position12:09
HarlinPurpleMotion: most of the people where i work dont have any cers12:09
f_newtonyes but it keeps testtaker in bologna and cheese12:09
Harlincerts*12:09
PurpleMotionwhere do you work? I need a job.12:10
PurpleMotioncause i have YEARS of real world experience12:10
HarlinPurpleMotion: you have any experience?12:10
cisaSeveas: ok, installation worked. i build the driver - doesn't work :(12:10
HarlinPurpleMotion: professional experience?12:10
PurpleMotiona couple years. but nothing in any one specialization12:10
Random_Sindrom<== need a job too12:10
PurpleMotionthat's where having a cert or two would be nice12:11
HarlinPurpleMotion: looks like its desktop support world for you ;)12:11
f_newtonlol I need a better job12:11
spiralI have a mail problem - my mail server emails some addresses just fine (like my gmail account), but does not successfuly email other *addresses* (like my yahoo account).  What could be the problem?12:11
Madpilothas this turning into #linux-jobhunting suddenly? ;)12:11
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HarlinPurpleMotion: what area of the world you live in?12:11
PurpleMotionHarlin:  not if i get these certs... i guarantee they'll land me a sysadmin or sysop position12:11
PurpleMotionohio, usa12:11
PurpleMotionthey just look all kinds of official, heh12:11
HarlinPurpleMotion: good luck, i really hope it works like that for you12:11
Random_Sindrombetter that #linux-do-nothing12:12
HarlinPurpleMotion: what would be your ideal (realistic) job you would like to do?12:12
MadpilotRandom_Sindrom: heh. right now it's #ubuntu-0315-and-time-to-crash for me...12:12
PurpleMotionI want to build call-center networks.12:12
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PurpleMotionI have a knack for large-scale user networks12:12
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HarlinPurpleMotion: what kind of jobs have you done in the past?12:12
topyliby popular (i.e. topyli's) demand, breezy's default theme should be clearlooks-gperfection :)12:13
HarlinPurpleMotion: in field i mean12:13
Razor-Xby popular demand, breezy Kubuntu's default theme should be Plastik Lipstik ;)12:13
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T_T_T_T_Thi everyone12:14
T_T_T_T_Thelp12:14
PurpleMotioncall center support, system administration, it director (small company, more like it department), lead technician, liason to corporate clients, in-depth troubleshooting (things other techs could not fix), city-wide school system network upgrade12:14
Random_Sindromhi T_T_T..12:14
PurpleMotionumm12:14
Madpilotclearlooks is good12:14
PurpleMotionlots of stuff.12:14
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HarlinPurpleMotion: all this in two years?12:14
HarlinPurpleMotion: should be able to write your own ticket with no certs12:15
PurpleMotionnah, more like ten, but there's a lot of stuff i wouldn't list on a resume.. only about two years worth12:15
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PurpleMotionsome stuff i wouldnt list cause i was learning as i went, some stuff because things went sideways, and two because the company just don't exist anymore12:16
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Belutz???12:16
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Madpilot!ops12:16
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!12:16
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Belutz!ops12:17
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gotier!ops12:17
linlinassholes...12:17
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f_newtonlol12:17
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nthko393ubsh biby erna xpgh oxti yczb kbgq offm pcww jwff wnfo vvbu bidc dufw uona uunh wmwz ehog ottz hdbh hxmv ouyk dsdz xgxd xpoo votf voiq vjts ksfe bdii khcs ohkm12:17
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nthko393@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&# fL0Od12:17
fruzv557ubsh biby erna xpgh oxti yczb kbgq offm pcww jwff wnfo vvbu bidc dufw uona uunh wmwz ehog ottz hdbh hxmv ouyk dsdz xgxd xpoo votf voiq vjts ksfe bdii khcs ohkm12:17
fruzv557@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&#@#$&**&# fL0Od12:17
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PurpleMotionlike 3 people have yelled ops, i doubt we need to do it again12:17
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PurpleMotionthis is about lame anyways12:17
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Random_Sindromwoman an children first!!!12:17
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linlinXD12:17
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topyliMadpilot: gPerfection makes clearlooks even more gPerfect. :) check: http://siltala.net/comp/Hoary-desktop.jpg12:17
PurpleMotiongit em12:17
Seveassorry for the delay12:17
f_newtonits happening on fedora too12:18
linlinhow lame do you get...12:18
chrissturmwhats +r?12:18
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linlinregged nicks only12:18
chrissturmcool12:18
PurpleMotiondamnt hat looks good12:18
cisaSeveas: any idea?12:19
Madpilottopyli: very nice. will have to check gnome-look for gPerfection12:19
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f_newtonthats the same butthead that did that over in another channel a few weeks ago12:19
PurpleMotioni mean that looks really good12:19
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PurpleMotionbut i still like this humanized-grover look12:19
PurpleMotionkinda sorta12:19
topyliMadpilot: yeah. search for gperfection and find the wallpaper and firefox theme as well :)12:19
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PurpleMotionmore like a warm-noia-earthy-grover12:20
PurpleMotionit's pretty thats for sure12:20
MadpilotI like clearlooks - I'm a sucker for rounded corners...12:20
PurpleMotionim the same with reverse bevels12:20
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f_newtonif they are rounded they arent corners12:20
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PurpleMotionespecially with inset 3d buttons12:21
PurpleMotion*uNF*12:21
Madpilotf_newton: pedant ;)12:21
f_newtonlol12:21
Belutzhungry12:21
f_newtonme too12:21
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Belutzapt-get pizza12:21
PurpleMotionSeveas:  so two hundred bucks for these two certs... not bad.. any chance of a study guide with a sample test cd?12:21
PurpleMotionif so, ill buy it this friday, and take the first test int wo weeks12:22
ompaulPurpleMotion, https://wall.lpi.org/en/obj_101.html12:22
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ompaulthat is level one12:22
Michi^BG2hello :)12:22
PurpleMotionyes, i know12:22
JemtHi Michi^BG212:22
Michi^BG2any germans experts here? *g* i need one12:22
PurpleMotioni want an all-in-one study guide12:22
PurpleMotiondesigned for the test12:23
SeveasMichi^BG2, #ubuntu-de :)12:23
PurpleMotionthat system works _well_12:23
Michi^BG2thx^^12:23
topyliMichi^BG2: try #ubuntu-de12:23
topylihf12:23
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Harlinim trying to do: apt-get install bzflag but get return saying there is no package named bzflag... i just did a standard install, is there anything else i need to have to get this to work?12:24
Random_Sindromsome web page about breezy features?12:25
PurpleMotionheh, Linux Cramsession for LPI Part 112:25
PurpleMotion$40.9912:25
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PurpleMotion*uNF*12:25
SeveasRandom_Sindrom, udu.wiki.ubuntu.com12:25
Madpilotanyone else having trouble getting to http://gnome-look.org/?12:25
PurpleMotionhundred and fifty bucks per test12:25
SeveasMadpilot, seems to be down indeed12:25
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JemtMadpilot: Yep12:25
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PurpleMotionO'Reilley LPI Linux Certification In A Nutshell12:25
Madpilotglad it's not just me. will try again tomorrow12:25
JemtMadpilot: ^^12:26
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SeveasMadpilot, the thing does not even respond to pings :)12:26
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MadpilotSeveas: wow, it's all the way down...12:26
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floppyearshi12:26
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daydreamishi12:26
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floppyearsdoes dsl also use nic cards to setup or does it use a modem12:27
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floppyearssorry if the question is too dumb :(12:27
Seveasfloppyears, depends on your provider....12:27
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Jemtflodine: Well, actually you need a DSL modem - which is connected to a NIC or a Switch12:27
Seveasmine (demon) gives me a modem that takes care of the dsl bit, so I need just DHCP12:27
c3101mine uses modem12:27
Jemtfloppyears: : Well, actually you need a DSL modem - which is connected to a NIC or a Switch12:27
Jemtflodine: Sorry, not for you :)12:27
Seveasother give you a modem that you connect to via a somple nic and use PPPOE on top of it12:28
Jemtfloppyears: The setup can be like this :  phone-line > DSL modem > Router > Switch > PC   OR   phone-line > DSL modem > PC12:28
PurpleMotionbut like 99.9999% of dsl modems are capable of logging you into the system and keeping your connection alive and up 24/712:28
floppyearsthank you guys12:28
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Jemtfloppyears: no problem :)12:29
Harlinhow does one install a local .deb package?12:29
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mjrHarlin, dpkg -i12:29
Seveasdpkg -i filename.deb12:29
PurpleMotionHarlin:  dpkg -i package.deb12:29
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PurpleMotionbut you might want to --no-act it first to see how it's going to behave12:30
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topyli"wajig install foo.deb" will also solve dependencies :)12:30
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HarlinPurpleMotion: how come i cant get bzflag when i do apt-get install?12:31
PurpleMotionwhat do you mean?12:31
Harlinwhen i do: apt-get install bzflag, i get no package named bzflag12:31
Harlini tried bzflag212:31
PurpleMotionDate: Tue Aug 02 Time: 06:31:2912:31
PurpleMotion{jay@psilocybin (~)}:$ dpkg -l bzflag12:31
PurpleMotionNo packages found matching bzflag.12:31
PurpleMotionlemme check12:31
Harlinyeah12:31
PurpleMotionapt-cache search bzflag12:31
JemtHarlin: Try searching for it : apt-cache search bzflag12:32
PurpleMotion{jay@psilocybin (~)}:$ apt-cache search bzflag12:32
PurpleMotionbzflag - a 3D first person tank battle game12:32
PurpleMotionbzflag-server - bzfs - BZFlag game server and proxy12:32
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PurpleMotiondo you have universe and multiverse?12:32
JemtHarlin: Seems that it exist in the Universe or Multiverse or Extras12:32
flodineanyone on openbox?12:32
PurpleMotioni looked at openbox.. didnt look bad at all12:33
JemtHarlin: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories12:33
Harlinhmm12:33
PurpleMotion!ubuntuguide12:33
ubotuI guess ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.12:33
flodineit work good12:33
Harlinnot liking this so far12:33
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PurpleMotion!repositories12:34
ubotumethinks repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos12:34
turkuaz!ubuntuguide12:34
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Harlinno default support for GLX12:34
Harlinnot good12:34
SeveasHarlin, did you ever edit /etc/apt/sources.list?12:34
PurpleMotionbetween those two, you should be able to get it figured out12:34
HarlinSeveas, no i didnt12:34
Harlini have to edit this file by hand?12:34
Harlinhand editing... bad12:34
Tomcat_Harlin: Nah, you can do that with synaptic.12:34
SeveasHarlin, sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/?download=38 -O /etc/apt/sources.list12:34
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Harlinhmm12:34
Seveasthat gives you the complete sources.list for hoary12:34
Harlinlooks like thumbs down on this12:35
PurpleMotionthumbs down because you have to edit a file?12:35
Harlinstill not ready for prime time12:35
PurpleMotionwow12:35
Harlinyeah for something like setting up sources12:35
HarlinMandriva, you dont have to do that12:35
SeveasHarlin, and GLX by default is impossible since only the proprietary drivers provide that12:35
Harlinor even Yum for that matter12:35
flodineanyone have fbpager up12:35
PurpleMotionyou're actually comparing ubuntu to mandriva?12:35
HarlinSeveas: Mandriva does this12:36
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SeveasHarlin, and you can set the repositories in the package manager too, there is a good reason the universe repository is not on by default12:36
PurpleMotionhey Tomcat_ , i know you from dalnet, dont i12:36
Harlintrue Seveas12:36
topyliHarlin: it's easier on the command line on mandrake too :)12:36
SeveasHarlin, then go with mandriva if you like it better :)12:36
Harlintopyli: exactly12:36
HarlinSeveas: oh i prob will12:36
PurpleMotionhave fun with that12:36
topyliHarlin: anyway, it's not something you're supposed to be doing all the time12:37
JemtHarlin: I switched from Mandrake (now Mandriva) to Ubuntu because of the lack of updates12:37
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HarlinSeveas: nonetheless, when Ubuntu gets these things in, ill be more apt to get back into it, i like the concept although i am not a "we are the world" type12:37
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HarlinJemt: how long ago?12:37
poningruwhat exactly is the prob?12:37
ma3xWhy is ubuntu so slow? (KDE)12:37
SeveasHarlin, GLX on by default will not happen soon unless the open source drivers support it...12:37
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HarlinSeveas: yeah but it is on Mandriva12:38
ma3xwhen I open a browser or start the task manager, it takes like 10 seconds12:38
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PurpleMotionim not a we are the world type either, but i'll tell you what once anyone gets under the hood of ubuntu who knows their shit, they're gonna love it..12:38
floppyearsI have a questions why does ubuntu every so often merge changes with debian ?12:38
topyliHarlin: you can edit the sources with a gui just as well12:38
Xyc0ma3x: be more descriptive, ubuntu is very fast for me12:38
Tomcat_PurpleMotion: No, the nick is pretty often used nowadays... when I saw your nick I thought "Hey I know you from the demoscene", but then your realname and location don't match. :)12:38
JemtHarlin: About two weeks ago. But ok, I have been used to Debian clones as I have been using Knoppix earlier12:38
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poningrusomeone kick this idiot12:38
Seveasfloppyears, because the debian packages update too :)12:38
Harlintopyli: true but i just prefer URPM more that's all12:38
XYTTYhi12:38
PurpleMotionTomcat_:  lol.. well the fellow on dalnet even had the trailing _12:38
Seveasponingru, language...12:38
poningruthis is not a place where we have flame wars12:38
topyliHarlin: ok then12:38
Harlinkick someone because they dont like your distro?12:38
Harlinthat's silly12:38
XYTTYAre you french?12:38
SeveasHarlin, true :)12:38
Tomcat_PurpleMotion: Heh... necessary when there's already "Tomcat" nicks everywhere. :I12:38
Seveasthat's not going to happen12:38
Harlinno, not french12:38
poningruHarlin: dude its because its interfearing with the support channel12:39
PurpleMotionheh i guess so12:39
Random_SindromLet Harlin go12:39
Xyc0don't feed the trolls12:39
JemtHarlin: apt-get is just as good as URPM* actually. All you need to do is to setup the source list. If you want, I can help you12:39
floppyearsSeveas: it seems that ubuntu has succeded where debian has failed, so why bother with debian ?12:39
topylibah12:39
Harlinim not a troll12:39
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PurpleMotionhes not a troll, hes just lazy12:39
HarlinJemt: ok, im willing to listen12:39
ma3xXyc0: it's somehow very slow, if you go to the display preferences to change the background, it takes about 10-20 seconds, only to preview it in the little window12:39
SeveasPurpleMotion, ....12:39
PurpleMotionhe wants to click everything12:39
PurpleMotionwhat?12:39
Harlinnot necessarily PurpleMotion12:39
ma3xXyc0: I have a GIG of ram, and a swap partition. Should I delete the swap partition?12:39
Xyc0ma3x: How much memory do you have?12:39
Hoxzerwhere is the ubuntu's recyler located?12:39
SeveasHoxzer, ~/.Trash12:39
Xyc0ma3x: neg12:39
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HarlinPurpleMotion: id like it if i didnt' have to do any pecking or clicking :D12:39
ma3xXyc0: What means neg?12:40
JemtHarlin: Or even give you my source list along with instructions to install it. I'll make it public available so that people in here can see that I'm not trying to make you install some crappy source list.12:40
PurpleMotionHarlin:  how many boxes do you administer?12:40
Xyc0ma3x: negative, no12:40
Hoxzerfor some reason I can't see it in down of the screen12:40
HarlinJemt: that sounds very good12:40
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ma3xXyc0: what is then the problem?12:40
HarlinJemt: give me the details and ill be happy to give it a go12:40
Xyc0ma3x: is it just the webbrowser? or other programs too?12:40
SeveasJemt, I already gave him the list of all official repos :)12:40
JemtHarlin: Sure, just a sec :)12:40
Seveas!source12:40
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Seveas12:40
Seveashmm12:40
Seveas!repositories12:40
ubotuI guess repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos12:40
PurpleMotioni think its sources as well12:41
PurpleMotion!sources12:41
ma3xXyc0: every program runs slow12:41
ubotufrom memory, sources is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:41
Seveas!repos12:41
ubotuwell, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:41
Random_SindromHoxze.. there is a applet in the panel12:41
PurpleMotionyup12:41
JemtSeveas: Oh, ok. Then he'll be fine. Harlin: Have you recieved Seveas' source list ?12:41
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Xyc0ma3x: Did you install drivers for your card?12:41
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JemtHarlin: If you have: 1) Start a terminal : Applications > System Tools > Terminal12:41
Xyc0ma3x: video card* sorry12:41
ma3xXyc0: it's like if I close some window, it doesn't close instantly, but it displays the closing action, and takes about 1-2 secs12:42
HoxzerRandom: I cant see it12:42
SeveasJemt, I gave him the easy one-liner :)12:42
Seveas sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/?download=38 -O /etc/apt/sources.list12:42
PurpleMotionand you never did tell me how many boxes you administer that you're so worried about how many things you're going to have to manually click or edit12:42
JemtSeveas: Great :)12:42
ma3xXyc0: they should be automatically installed, since I have tested glxgears12:42
JemtHarlin: Are you still with me ? :)12:42
Hoxzeronly thing I see is that speaker12:42
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ma3xXyc0: and I tried tuxracer, it was fine12:42
Xyc0ma3x: what kind of processor?12:42
JemtTuxracer rox :)12:43
Xyc0he he12:43
ma3xXyc0: Intel IV M12:43
Hoxzerhow do I empty trash if it isn't in panel? :E12:43
ma3x2,4 GHz12:43
Harlinyeah12:43
JemtHoxzer: Just add it :)12:43
Harlinstill here12:43
SeveasHoxzer, rm ~/.Trash/*12:43
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topyliah. who needs local music when we have soma fm? :)12:43
ompaulthat backports tinyurl in the topic ain't working from here12:43
HoxzerJemt: how?12:43
PurpleMotioncause i promise you i can write a series of scripts that updates network-wide (you only make one change) via nfs :) probably take me about a day to put the whole thing together and make you a completely automated install cd12:44
ma3xXyc0:  I just tried out tuxracer and it doesn't run very smoothly either. Not like ppracer used on the previous ubuntu install12:44
PurpleMotionfor your workstations12:44
JemtHoxzer: Rightclick on your panel > Add to panel. Find the trash and use the Add button12:44
Xyc0ma3x: hmmm, what kinda laptop, im on a dell right now with close to the same specs12:44
SeveasPurpleMotion, too much work12:44
PurpleMotionthey'll automagically update themselves12:44
Harlinok, thanks for the help12:44
SeveasPurpleMotion, you need PXE install :)12:44
Harlinsee you all12:44
SeveasPurpleMotion, i wrote this: wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOnCluster12:44
PurpleMotionSeveas:  for a large network, there's nothing better than doing it yourself :)12:44
PurpleMotionI'll have a look12:44
Seveasand am successfully operating a cluster with it :)12:44
ma3xXyc0: HP what other specifics should I say?12:45
Xyc0no thats fine12:45
Xyc0ma3x: did you install kubuntu or ubuntu then installed kde?12:45
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ma3xXyc0: I installed kubuntu directly12:45
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Oniano|iBookdoes it matter which version of gcc u use to compile the kernel?12:46
Oniano|iBooki'm using 4.0212:46
Oniano|iBookand i'm getting some compiler errors12:46
Oniano|iBookand wondering if it's because i'm using a particular version of gcc12:47
chrissturmOniano|iBook, i think compiling the kernel  is only supported with gcc 3.412:47
Oniano|iBookok12:47
SeveasOniano|iBook, why on earth do you compile the kernel yourself and not follow the instructions?12:47
SeveasOniano|iBook: You can find compilation instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto12:48
ompaul!skype12:48
ubotuwell, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/12:48
Seveasand indeed kernel + gcc4 is a no-go12:48
PurpleMotionSeveas:  wouldnt /etc/init.d/nis stop be just as easy?12:48
topyliahh... OOo2 finally uses ~/.openoffice.org2 for keeping my settings12:48
Xyc0ma3x: Is this something that happened recently or since you installed kubuntu?12:49
ma3xXyc0: it was fine when I installed it12:49
Xyc0ma3x: IE.  Did you change or install something12:49
SeveasPurpleMotion, in which step?12:49
tikkaanyone have experience with installing e17 from cvs?12:49
PurpleMotionwhichever12:49
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c3101just did it tikka :)12:50
ma3xJava, mozilla, firefox and upgraded12:50
Xyc0ma3x: something you installed is causeing problems, and I have an itchy feeling it is your video drivers12:50
tikkasexual12:50
ma3xXyc0: But I haven't installed any video drivers12:50
c3101erm, no, just e1712:50
MyKq3hello i m trying to install Epiphany Web Browser on Ubuntu 5.0412:50
tikkalol12:50
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ma3xPlus I have the feeling it's the cpu or ram12:50
MyKq3and i resove lots of err12:50
ma3xXyc0: One moment please, I will try to restart KDE12:51
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Xyc0MyKq3: how are you trying to install it?12:51
ma3xand update respectively12:51
Xyc0rgr12:51
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SeveasMyKq3, apt should install it without errors...12:51
MyKq3dpkg -i Xyc012:51
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SeveasMyKq3, where dod you get the .deb file from?12:51
Seveasmanually downloading .deb files is a bad idea, there is apt to do that for you12:51
MyKq3from the offical site of Epiphany Web Browser12:52
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Xyc0MyKq3: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser12:52
SeveasMyKq3, probably a bad idea12:52
Seveasfollow Xyc0s advice12:52
Xyc0MyKq3: run that in your terminal12:52
tikkac3101,  did you do it by hand or use a script?12:52
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MyKq3Xyc0,  yeah but o want to install Epiphany Web Browser 1.7.3 and not 112:52
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MyKq31.6.1 **12:52
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SeveasMyKq3, i'm guessing that that will need much newer libraries...12:52
c3101tikka, by hand12:53
Seveasso don't :)12:53
Xyc0MyKq3: then you need to find the ubuntu packages, not the debian12:53
MyKq3=\ hummm12:53
Xyc0MyKq3: or compile it from source12:53
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tikkac3101, save this for ur next build.. i just stumbled on it when looking for the cvs password (i cant believe i didnt try return ahah)  http://contribs.martymac.com/e17/make_e1712:53
MyKq3thanks ppl i think i will wait for the next Ubuntu version  =\12:53
MyKq3=] *12:53
SeveasMyKq3, or try this: first install from apt and THEN do dpkg -i on the newer version12:54
Rydekullhmm12:54
Rydekullhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/epiphany-browser/12:54
Seveasit might be simply a resolvable dependency problem :)12:54
Xyc0Seveas: yea, good idea12:54
MyKq3Seveas,  done that =] 12:54
SeveasMyKq3, if that won't work: you should stick to 1.6.1 :)12:54
PurpleMotionokay, now12:54
PurpleMotionbed12:54
MyKq3=]  yeah i guess so =] 12:54
PurpleMotionfor real12:54
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PurpleMotiongood night12:55
PurpleMotionor morning, as the case may be12:55
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MyKq3its a shame that Epiphany don't have open in new tab option =\12:55
cisaok, found the problem. the modules is saved into /lib/modules/2.6.10-5/ but uname -r says 2.6.10-5-386. if i copy the module into the 2.6.10-5-386 directory or insmod it from the path it was installed to i get an error that has something to do with wrong module format12:55
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RydekullEpiphany is in 1.7.3 in Ubuntu, dunno which ubuntu though but you guys should be able to see that12:55
inCohi guys, can someone please help? keep in mind that im a fresh linux user here... i would like to install kvirc 3, ive tried searvhing in synaptic and get version 2 as the ltest.apt-get tells me that i have the latest installed. but on the website i downloaded "kvirc-3.2.0.tar.bz2" and i would like to install it, can anyone tell me how i go about doing it please?12:55
c3101tikka, wicked, would have saved me a lot of typing ! :)12:56
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dimitrisAnyone knows where i can get amule 2.0.0 deb package? I don't want to install 2.0.3 from the apt-get repositories since i had some problems with it.12:56
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tikkac3101,  hehe12:56
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tikkac3101,  i havent tested yet though ;p im just in process of running it12:56
cisalooks like the driver wants to have the complete source an not only the headers. but i can only find  linux-source-2.6.10_2.6.10-34_all.deb on the mirror. not 2.6.10-5-38612:57
SeveasRydekull, that's for breezy12:57
floppyearsdimitris: I would use google to find the package, and "dpkg -i" to install it12:57
RydekullSeveas: well see, as I said, I could only see that it was in ubuntu somehwere, assumed it was breezy :)12:57
SeveasinCo, tar jxvf kvirc-3.2.0.tar.bz2 and read the readme12:57
Xyc0:>...l ] 12:57
Xyc0''''''.sd8d ;l12:57
Xyc0sorry cat12:57
turkuazFor those of you looking for applications try apt-get.org12:57
floppyearsdimitris: but you are going to have troubles.12:58
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floppyearsdimitris: when you do apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, it will try to install the newer package :(12:58
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inCobeen running linux only a few days and i need a hand, can someone please help? i would like to install kvirc 3, ive tried searching in synaptic and get version 2 as the latest.apt-get tells me that i have the latest installed. but on the website i downloaded "kvirc-3.2.0.tar.bz2" and i would like to install it, can anyone tell me how i go about doing it please?12:58
SeveasinCo, I just told you...12:58
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inColol?12:59
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Xyc0inCo: sudo apt-get install kvirc12:59
dimitrisfloppyears, Isn't there a way to ignore the latest version of amule and not upgrade?12:59
inCoi havent got my glasses 1 sec12:59
Xyc0inCo: Run that in terminal12:59
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Seveasdimitris, in the package manager select lock version in the menu12:59
floppyearsinCo: nobody can really help you. The installation is different you have to read the README or INSTALL12:59
Seveas(when you selected the package)12:59
Xyc0inCo: ha ha, right as you just said that my cat knocked off my glassses12:59
Xyc0crazy kittens and their drugs01:00
Seveas:)01:00
dimitrisOk thnx01:00
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inCokvirc is already the newest version.01:01
inCo0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.01:01
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inComy kvirc is 2.1.301:01
Xyc0should be 2.201:01
Xyc0no 2.1 your right01:02
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d3javuguys ... good day :)01:02
Xyc0is it day time already?01:02
inCohow come most up-tp-date is 3.2.0, they dont update repositories?01:02
T_T_T_T_Tbai01:02
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SeveasinCo, not when a release is stable01:03
Seveasonly security updates01:03
d3javuGuy... my problem is : first .. when boot unbuntu ... i get kernel panic ... then when i restart ... while boot ... there is 1 long beep and 3 short beep sound and screen become blank. Any idea?01:03
Hoxzerhow do I fix apt-get server list to orginal?01:03
Xyc0inCo: http://kvirc.net/?id=releases&platform=unix&version=3.2.0&group=debian01:03
Seveasd3javu, did you compile your own kernel?01:03
topyliinCo: this version of ubuntu will always have 2.1. the next one will have whatever is current when it's released01:04
SeveasHoxzer: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3801:04
d3javuSeveas, Nope ... i install using unbuntu cd ... auto-detection01:04
Seveasd3javu, hmm, the booting here is that booting the install cd or the installed system?01:04
d3javuSeveas,installed system.01:05
Xyc0Seveas: no one is gonna add it to backports?01:05
Seveasd3javu, first guess is defect hardware, run memtest86 from the boot menu for an hour to see whther there are memory errors01:05
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floppyearsinCo: what does "apt-get show package-name" give you ?01:05
d3javuSeveas, memtest pass :)01:06
d3javumemory is working01:06
SeveasXyc0, ask the backports developers to do that :)01:06
d3javuOpps an hour?01:06
Seveasd3javu, hm....01:06
d3javuOk ... let me try it ...01:06
Xyc0floppyears: current is 2.1, he wants 3.201:06
d3javuhmm is there any other option?01:06
HoxzerSeveas: where is that sources.list located?01:06
d3javuif in case the memory is working?01:06
Seveasd3javu, reinstall ;)01:06
d3javuAaaw01:06
SeveasHoxzer, /etc/apt/sources.list01:06
d3javuOk .. let me try first01:06
floppyearsXyc0: oh, ok. Is just that sometimes the .deb package versioning may not reflect the actual version # of the program.01:06
d3javuThank you Seveas. :)01:06
Seveasd3javu, or boot with all acpi things forced off01:07
Hoxzer thx01:07
Seveasnoapic nolapic acpi=off01:07
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Xyc0How do I get ubuntu to turn off the screen when I shut the lid on my laptop?01:07
SeveasXyc0, it should do that already...01:08
Xyc0neg01:08
six2onelike lock th screen?01:08
Xyc0i pry it up a bit to see it is on01:08
SeveasXyc0, then edit /etc/acpi/lid.sh to call dpms off01:08
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Xyc0no acpi dir01:08
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SeveasXyc0, you need acpi installed for this to work...01:09
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Xyc0APT SAYS IT IS01:10
Xyc0oops01:10
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ma3xhello01:10
Madpilotdoes gParted work well w/ SATA drives?01:10
Seveasdennis@mirage ~ $ dpkg -S /etc/acpi/lid.sh01:10
Seveasacpi-support: /etc/acpi/lid.sh01:10
Seveasinstall acpi-support :)01:10
ma3xXyc0: are you still there?01:11
Xyc0hi01:11
ma3xI updated kde but still cannot fix the problem. But I've noticed now when I connected to IRC, in the status window, when I got the MOTD it was buffering extremly slow (line by line)01:12
ma3xso that might be proof that it's from the graphic card?01:12
kaukohow can i look film01:12
ma3xor now when I switch windows between channels, it takes always 1 second01:12
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Xyc0brb01:13
Xyc0ma3x: glxinfo01:14
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Xyc0ma3x: scroll to the top to see if direct rendering is enabled01:15
kaukoexit01:15
paxuse | grep rendering01:15
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ma3xXyc0: direct rendering: Yes01:16
hussamYes I know it is not necessary but is there any on access virus scanning fro Linux. ( I currently scan everything I download with the free f-prot command line scanner )01:17
hussam?01:17
Xyc0hussam: clamav01:17
hussamdoes is do on access scanning?01:17
Xyc0what do you mean?01:17
Belutzhussam: no it is not01:17
master486Do i need to divide a HDD into two parts if i want to have win xp and ubuntu on same physical HDD01:18
Belutzhussam: i think there is no on access virus scanner for linux yet01:18
Belutzhussam: as far as i know, avast is developing it right now01:18
hussamwill the avast be for free?01:18
Belutzhussam: avast is free01:18
Xyc0ma3x: I would honestly start over and reinstall.  Something you installed should be borked01:18
Xyc0master486: yes01:19
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master486ok thanks.01:19
ma3xXyc0: It's really a lot of work, please spare me Sir01:20
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Xyc0ma3x: it will be mush more work to uninstall everything to see what is messing it up01:21
paxreinstall to fix xorg?!01:21
asad2k5how ot preserve file directories when archiving / extracting with file roler01:21
ma3xbut is it at least from the video card?01:21
Xyc0pax: can you figure out what he changed to get kubuntu to run like molasses?01:22
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paxXyc0: explain the problem01:23
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Xyc0pax: He installed kubuntu, works fine01:23
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Xyc0pax: Now he says it takes forever to open any programs01:23
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paxwhat kde ver is he using?01:24
Xyc0ask him01:24
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Xyc0ma3x: what version of KDE did you update to?01:24
ma3xXyc0: 3.4.201:25
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paxma3x: so everything works fine under gnome and not with kde?01:25
Xyc0kubuntu*01:25
Xyc0meaning, gnome is not installed unless he did so on his own01:26
ma3xi have no gnome01:27
paxeverything runs slow, compering to what?01:27
tikkama3x,  what cpu are you using01:28
tikka*wondering*01:29
ma3xintel mobile 4 2,4ghz01:29
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Xyc0His system should respond better then it is01:30
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paxma3x: when you use 'top' how many tasks you have running total, and what's the cpu/memory usage?01:31
persiaYay!  Working virtual MIDI! Did anyone else want this and found it frustrating?01:31
afaikwhenever I burn a cd, my memory usage is 100% and everything runs EXTREMELY slow... why? I didn't have this problem in Debian?01:31
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afaikI mean, my laptop becomes UNBEARABLY slow01:32
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ma3xTasks:  76 total, Mem:    906656k total,   896912k used,     9744k free,    44764k buffers Swap:   658624k total,     2816k used,   655808k free,   682328k cached01:32
afaikeven the mouse freezes and is difficult to move01:32
ma3xCpu(s): 21.4% us, 10.5% sy,  0.0% ni, 65.1% id,  0.0% wa,  2.3% hi,  0.7% si01:33
mcscruffim trying to compile something and get this error01:33
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mcscruffhttp://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php01:33
mcscruffoops01:33
mcscruffchecking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp01:33
mcscruffconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check01:33
mcscruffSee `config.log' for more details.01:33
Belutzhow to use crontab ?01:33
paxma3x: what's using all that memory?01:33
afaikma3x, you need to acquire a spinlock01:34
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afaikTasks:  98 total,   2 running,  96 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie01:34
afaikCpu(s): 73.0% us, 20.6% sy,  0.0% ni,  1.2% id,  2.8% wa,  2.0% hi,  0.4% si01:34
afaikMem:    255832k total,   252484k used,     3348k free,     5028k buffers01:34
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afaikit'll get worse too01:34
afaikallI am doing is burning a cd01:35
paxwhat are you burning with?01:35
persiaBelutz: `man -S 5 crontab` should explain the format.  `crontab -e` lets you edit your own.01:35
afaikk3b01:35
paxweird01:35
hussamI'm compiling dazuko kernel module, after that I did insmod dazuko.o It gives error: insmod: error inserting 'dazuko.o': -1 Invalid module format01:35
Belutzpersia: thx01:35
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elvirolohi all01:35
hussamwhat does that mean?01:35
Xyc0afaik: what are you using to burn?01:35
ma3xpax: so is it from the memory, the problem?01:35
Xyc0oh ah sorry01:36
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new_hey everyone im new to ubuntu01:36
new_can anyone help me out01:36
paxma3x: well seems like something is using all your memory, find out what is it01:36
Xyc0afaik: nero has a linux version that works quite well, you might want to try it01:36
new_i wanna install software like a musice downloading one01:36
new_but i dont know how to01:36
Xyc0?01:37
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Xyc0you want to download music?!?!?01:37
new_yes01:37
Xyc0illegaly?!?!?!01:37
Xyc0horrible01:37
new_its not illegel01:37
elviroloi need to get unbuntu on a pc that has only 64 M RAM ... so I thought of doing a server install and then adding icewm, rox-filer, etc ... the thing is, how will I be able to localize the system (i need fr_FR) ?01:37
afaikyeah, it's not illegal... CUZ INFORMATION WANTS TO BE FREE!!!01:37
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afaikand music is information!01:37
Xyc0elvirolo: there is a low memory install of ubuntu, try that01:37
new_hey afiak01:38
kostkonnew_: apt-get install amule!01:38
afaik:)01:38
Xyc0new_: try aMule01:38
new_im running ubuntu verison 5.0.0.9 or something01:38
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new_i just dont understand how to install software on this01:38
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new_im new at it01:38
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elviroloXyc0, yes, that's the server install isn't it ?01:38
afaikInformation just WANTS to be free... that's why I download warez rather than paying evil greedy corporate america that charges for software that should be free01:38
kostkonnew_: aMule~=eMule01:38
Xyc0new_: right click on the back ground and open terminal01:38
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elviroloXyc0, i just want to be if abiword, icewm, etc. will be in French01:39
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new_ok01:39
new_then what01:39
kostkonnew_: apt-get install amule!01:39
kostkonnew_: apt-get install amule01:39
Xyc0elvirolo: im not sure what you are asking01:39
new_and thats it01:39
kostkonnew_: yeah!01:39
ma3xhow to find out what's using all that memory01:39
Xyc0new_: type sudo apt-get install amule01:39
elviroloXyc0, well, I just want my Ubuntu installation to be in French01:40
ma3xI have closed all other applications, but only about 50-80 MB freed01:40
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kostkonnew_: oups I forgot the sudo...01:40
Xyc0elvirolo: that is very possible01:40
new_it said reading package list done01:40
Xyc0elvirolo: ubuntu has the best translations for linux01:40
new_buliding dependency tree01:40
new_done01:40
new_then it says01:40
kostkonnew_: just wait!01:40
kostkonnew_: ok, it's done01:40
Xyc0elvirolo: you can configure that from install01:40
new_E: couldnt find package amule01:40
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elviroloXyc0, even in server install?01:41
afaiknew_, must be the anti-warez version of ubuntu01:41
new_how do i get software so i can install01:41
Xyc0kostkon: he needs the repos for it01:41
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elvirolonew_, enable universe01:41
new_what01:41
Xyc0new_: we will help you, dont worry01:41
new_ok01:41
new_cool01:41
new_thanks01:41
bimberinew_: in general, you can search for and install software using synaptic - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto01:41
kostkonXyc0: yeah now I realised that, i dont remember in what repo is amule01:41
kostkonXyc0: is it in multiverse?!!01:42
paxma3x: use top or ksysguard to check what process(es) eating all that precious memory01:42
new_ya i know bimberi01:42
Xyc0kostkon: walk him trough the steps on ubuntuguide.org01:42
new_but i have trouble on installin it01:42
Xyc0kostkon: explain what he is doing so he can do it again01:42
bimberikostkon: it's in universe01:42
new_where is universe01:42
afaikCpu(s): 79.8% us, 17.1% sy,  0.0% ni,  0.0% id,  0.0% wa,  1.6% hi,  1.6% si01:42
afaikMem:    255832k total,   252444k used,     3388k free,     8104k buffers01:42
afaikSwap:   506036k total,    99744k used,   406292k free,   107476k cached01:42
afaik:(01:43
afaikusage increases01:43
kostkonnew_: you have to add repositories, sources were you can get software, so01:43
bimberinew_: that page i linked to has another link to how to add repositories01:43
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afaiknow the CPU is 88% ... can hardly type01:43
Xyc0kostkon: no amule is a back port01:43
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bimberis/to how/on how/01:43
david_2k5hy01:43
new_i did that and it didnt work01:44
Xyc0he he bash conversations rock01:44
kostkonXyc0: no it's also in multiverse i think01:44
ma3xI still can't find out what's using all that memory, it shows in ksysguard or top that most of the processes use only %2 of the memory01:44
Xyc0kostkon: oh, then the newest is on backport cause I cant see it in multi01:44
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ZincXftp client is available ?01:46
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new_where do i enable universe01:46
kostkonnew_: go here and tell me if you can do it, what you don't understand, etc..: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories01:46
Xyc0er...01:47
ZincXsumthin like smartftp ?01:47
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Xyc0new_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto01:47
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Xyc0new_: your probably used to a gui install of programs01:48
Xyc0new_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:48
new_so to add resps i go to the terminal01:48
Xyc0no use my link above01:49
new_ok01:49
Xyc0it will show you how01:49
new_i clicked it01:49
Xyc0!repos01:49
ubotuit has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:49
Xyc0i forget that ubotu helps01:49
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Xyc0!wma01:50
ubotuXyc0: I haven't a clue01:50
Xyc0damn01:50
Xyc0!ndiswrapper01:50
ubotufrom memory, ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper01:50
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new_hey xyo ok where do i type in that stuff at where it says sudo and stuff01:50
afaikin a terminal01:51
new_so lets say i wanna install01:51
new_amule01:51
new_how do i do that01:51
afaikopen a terminal01:51
afaiktype "sudo apt-get instal lamule"01:51
afaiktype password01:51
afaikthat's it :)01:51
Xyc0new_: did you click the link on how to add repositories?01:51
new_yes01:52
new_this is my first day running this01:52
new_i use to run windows01:52
Xyc0did you follow the steps?01:52
cafuego!wma is <reply> Ask me about RestrictedFormats01:52
ubotucafuego: okay01:52
Xyc0did you add universal and community?01:52
Xyc0!wpa01:53
ubotuXyc0: I don't know, could you explain it?01:53
new_hey afaik01:53
new_i typed what u said01:53
new_and this what it told me01:53
new_E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:53
new_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:53
new_new@ubuntu:~$01:53
Xyc0close synaptic01:53
thespiritoftalwhat is the limit of setting the year? can i set the computer's year to one million? is there a limit?01:53
new_ok01:53
jonnnnhello01:53
new_i closed it01:53
cafuegothespiritoftal: 32bit time round out in 2049 or somnewhere whereabout.01:54
cafuego!2**32 - 101:54
ubotu429496729501:54
Xyc0now you can use terminal01:54
new_ok01:54
thespiritoftalcafuego: So no more than 2049??01:54
smlguys ... could anyone offer some help to get my new acer notebook going ... xorg is not happy! :(01:54
topylithespiritoftal: unix time begins at 1970 and the unix y2k doom for 32 bit boxen is coming :)01:54
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new_E: Couldn't find package amule01:55
cafuegoTuesday 19 January, 2038 14:14:07 is the maximum 32bit time.01:55
Xyc0by 2049, nothing will use 32 bit01:55
thespiritoftalnew_: do sudo aptitude update first01:55
cafuegothespiritoftal: By then of course everyone is supposed to use 64 or 128bit systems.01:55
new_how do i do that01:55
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thespiritoftalnew_: Open terminal type "sudo aptitude update"01:55
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cafuegoMuch like NOBODY used bad year+1900 code in 2000 ;-)01:56
new_ok update is done01:56
cafuegoSo it was never 19100 instead01:56
new_now what01:56
thespiritoftalnow type "sudo aptitude install amule" again01:56
cafuego!2**6401:56
new_sorry if im being a pain01:56
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cafuego<heh>01:57
Xyc0Illegal downloading is still bad01:57
thespiritoftalany of you who knows javascript?01:57
=== cafuego needs a system with 64bit time_t for that one
Xyc0you should use bittorrent, its faster to steal that way01:57
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new_ok i did it01:57
new_this is wat it says01:57
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Xyc0thespiritoftal: i do... or did01:57
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new_Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "amule"01:57
Xyc0new_: please dont paste in channel01:58
new_No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.01:58
topylinew_: please don't paste everything you see on the channel01:58
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Xyc0new_: stop01:58
paxpress esc01:58
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cafuegonew_: STOP01:58
afaiknew_, STOP01:58
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Belutz!paste01:58
ubotumethinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text01:58
new_sorry01:58
new_i didnt know01:58
thoreauputic!lart new_01:58
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topyliaaarrgh01:58
thespiritoftalChaos!01:58
cafuegoBloody hell, read the /topic01:58
new_ok thore what do i do now01:58
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cafuegonew_: Go sit in the corner for half an hour and be silent ;-)01:58
afaiknew_, try cat /dev/urandom/ > /dev/dsp01:58
Xyc0please paste it in paste bin01:58
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Xyc0i will not read it in channel01:58
thoreauputicafaik: hahah01:59
afaik(or was it /dev/mixer)01:59
afaik?01:59
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cafuegoSeveas: good morning :-)01:59
topylinew_: you don't have the required package repositories set up01:59
Xyc0!paste01:59
topyli!repositories01:59
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text01:59
ubotusomebody said repositories was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos01:59
=== Seveas has lag :)
topylinew_: ^01:59
=== cafuego just found a nasty bug
cafuegoAnyone with amd64 here?02:00
Natja_cafuego, yes02:00
persiacafuego: I'll test something...02:00
Xyc0new_: its ok, we arn't mad at you.  You do need to read what we tell you tho.02:00
cafuegoNatja_: Can you cast a 64bit INT_MAX - 1 into a time_t and see what happens?02:00
Natja_cafuego, err, how do I do that ? :s02:00
cafuegoHmm02:01
Seveascafuego, isn't time_t 32bit on amd64?02:01
Xyc0yea, youd have to manualy calculate it02:01
cafuegoSeveas: Well, it's segfaulting quite badly if I pass it a 64bit long02:01
cafuegoSeveas: I expect THAT is bad regardless.02:01
Seveashmm02:01
Seveasat which point? the cast?02:02
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Xyc0he he I think we spooked new_02:02
persiacafuego: I've put together a short program, but I need pointers to the includes - it's been far too long since I wrote C.02:03
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cafuegoXyc0: he got a +q, he can't speak here02:03
Flying-PenguinHELLO GUYS02:03
Seveashi prnguin02:03
Seveaspenguin*02:03
Xyc0cafuego: did ubotu do that?02:03
persiaAlso, does anyone know how to make my '}' key work again?02:03
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Flying-PenguinI installed the nvidia drivers by "apt-get nvidia-glx" and now I don't know how to update -_-02:03
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cafuegopersia: #include <stdlib.h> for instance?02:04
Xyc0Flying-Penguin: what do you mean update?02:04
Flying-PenguinXyc0: well it seems, my drivers are out of date...02:04
Xyc0Flying-Penguin: what makes you think that?02:04
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Xyc0Flying-Penguin: they are, but why does it matter?02:04
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Flying-PenguinXyc0: well, I ran a command that tells me my version...02:04
persiacafuego: that takes care of time_t, but INT_MAX is still undefined.02:05
cafuegoSeveas: localtime() dies02:05
Seveascafuego, strace it :)02:05
Flying-PenguinXyc0: yes it does matter... It might be what is stoping me from playing wow on linux :(02:05
liablehmm, my cdrom isnt being detected lately, (laptop) no errors, just no ide probe past ide0, controller or cdrom? I know its hard to say but, thoughts.02:05
cafuegoSeveas: Yeah, that doesn't help much <heh>02:05
Seveascafuego, gdb it then :)02:05
cafuegoSeveas: I get an munmap() after the atol() call, then it dies.02:05
Xyc0Flying-Penguin: If you want to update for the sake of having the newest, you need to custom install nvidia-glfx02:05
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Flying-PenguinXyc0: what do you mean?02:06
Xyc0Flying-Penguin: no, i have the .deb drivers and WoW works fine02:06
cafuegopersia: limits.h02:06
Flying-PenguinXyc0: well... maby you could try to help me get wow to work?02:06
cafuegopersia: HOWEVER, INT_MAX appears to be 32bit on my amd64 box.02:06
Xyc0how did you install WoW?02:06
Flying-Penguinuhh... I hit install in p2p02:07
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Flying-PenguinI did it the basick way... I like things easy02:07
Xyc0how did you run it on linux02:07
HAMM3RWhen i try to upload file trhough ftp (vsftpd), if they are 1MB(ish)+ the upload freezes02:07
Flying-PenguinXyc0: I use cedega... if that is what you mean02:07
HAMM3Rany idea of why?02:08
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Flying-PenguinXyc0: however from how you are talking, it seems you use cedega as well... so pleas what do you mean by how did you run it?02:08
Xyc0Flying-Penguin: what errors are you getting?02:08
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Flying-PenguinXyc0: well, it isn't realy an error02:08
=== keikoz Bonjour
topylihow well does qemu run win98?02:09
persiacafuego: if you have 32-bit INT_MAX, I probably do as well.  Just in case, ..02:09
Flying-PenguinXyc0: I can get into the game just fine, but when ever I click on something it freezes up for like 2-3sec (this also happens when I shapeshift)02:09
cafuegoSeveas: It gets weirder, it does NOT segfault in gdb.02:09
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Flying-PenguinXyc0: but if I have already selected someone, then it doesn't lag when i re select that person02:09
Seveascafuego, what is the value of INT_MAX?02:10
cafuegoSeveas: 2**3202:10
Xyc0Flying-Penguin: if you can get the game running, it has nothing to do with the video drivers02:10
cafuegoSeveas: 2**32 -1 actually02:10
Seveascafuego, I mena in your limits.h02:10
cafuegoSeveas: Yes02:10
Xyc0Flying-Penguin: it sounds like a cedgea problem02:10
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cafuego!2**32 -102:10
ubotu429496729502:10
cafuegothat02:10
Seveas#  define INT_MAX       214748364702:10
littlefaeHello again folks. :)02:10
Seveasthat's in my limits.h :)02:10
Seveas#  define UINT_MAX      4294967295U02:10
Flying-PenguinXyc0: at first I thought it might be some kind of a memory problem... but I don't know how I would fix that anywho02:11
cafuegoSeveas: AH yes.02:11
SeveasINT_MAX = 2**31 -102:11
Seveas(signed int)02:11
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littlefaeAnyone able to help me with disabling something irritating on my touchpad, it's a synaptics model, and has tap-to-click, which I'd like to take out.02:11
DJ_Necrogamii gotta question02:11
DJ_Necrogamiis there a command to print out what OS and version ?02:11
cafuegohalfbaked 32bit poo02:11
SeveasDJ_Necrogami, uname -a02:11
cafuegoDJ_Necrogami: 'uname -a'02:11
SeveasDJ_Necrogami, cat /etc/issue02:11
SeveasDJ_Necrogami, cat /etc/lsb-release02:12
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topylicat /proc/version02:12
topyli:)02:12
Seveasthat's about it :)02:12
cafuegocat /proc/sys/kernel/name02:12
topylihehe02:13
DJ_Necrogamitopyli: thank you02:13
littlefaeIs it difficult02:13
Seveascafuego, ENOSUCHFILE02:13
Xyc0System > About Ubuntu02:13
Xyc0im lazy02:13
cafuegoSeveas: needs a kernel patch (proc-animal)02:13
paxcat /etc/debian_version :D02:13
cafuego"Zen Penguin feeling the effects of Sniper"02:13
Seveas:)02:13
cafuegoaka 2.0.4002:14
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littlefaeHow do I disable tap-to-click in Ubuntu? :|02:14
tikkaargh02:14
tikkaim struggling with dependencys02:14
Seveastikka, apt should do that for you :)02:14
tikkaSeveas, im compiling e17 from cvs02:14
Xyc0Garg, the default background is so freaking ugly for Ubuntu02:15
tikkaand stuff i do add using apt02:15
Xyc0who decided to use that?02:15
cafuegotikka: masochist, are we?02:15
tikkacafuego, lol02:15
Seveastikka apt-get build-dep enlightenment may help02:15
littlefae:(02:15
tikkainteresting02:15
tikka:D02:15
cafuegoapt-get source enlightenment as well; just replace the source in the debsrc with the cvs source.02:15
cafuegoMight even end up with an installable .deb file.02:16
Seveas:)02:16
tikkai see02:16
tikkathis is interesting02:16
tikkahehe02:16
floppyearshi02:16
cafuegoand as a bonus you don't wreck anything02:16
=== littlefae tests for invisibility?
tikkahehe02:16
tikkasounds great to me02:16
topylicafuego: you can do that? apt never ceases to amaze me :)02:16
cafuegoDid someone hear that?02:16
floppyearswhere does the documentroot for a vhost usually reside in apache? does it reside in the same directory where the main documentroot resides ?02:16
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thoreauputiclittlefae: maybe no-one knows ;)02:16
cafuegotopyli: As long as the versions don't differ too much, yeah.02:16
persialittlefae: in GNOME, System...Preferences...Windows...first checkbox02:17
cafuegofloppyears: it resides wherever you tell apache it resides. /var/www/foo or /tmp/wibble or even /dev/chicken if you want to.02:17
Rockett17chicken device sounds like the best option ;)02:18
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littlefaeNo such option. :S02:18
cafuegofloppyears: Mine live in /var/www/domain.com/host/html02:18
floppyearscafuego: yes, but where should I locate vhost ? I have my main documentoot in /var/www, should the vhost's document roots reside in /var/www/vhost# or in the parent folder of the main document root's ?02:19
slowbrook im new to this linux stuff so dont be suprised.... where is the mozilla dir located?02:19
cafuegofloppyears: Like I said, wherever you want. It doesn't matter.02:19
floppyearscafuego: but then how do you prevent one vhost from accessing another vhost's files ?02:19
cafuegofloppyears: I disable the /var/www one.02:19
persiafloppyears: If you want your vhost to be completely separate, don't put it under /var/www.  If you want /var, perhaps /var/vhost?02:19
thoreauputicslowbro: maybe you should tell us what you  want to do instead02:19
floppyearscafuego: I'm trying to keep the data separate02:19
paxfloppyears: using apache2?02:20
floppyearspersia: I know that, that's why I'm asking what's the common thing to do02:20
floppyearspax: yes02:20
cafuegofloppyears: So I have _no_ vhost using /var/www/02:20
paxfloppyears: check /etc/apache2/sites-*02:20
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tikkacafuego, suggestion on a google search string to understand this deb source package and how to pack my own?02:20
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cafuegofloppyears: 'sudo a2dissite default' and off you go.02:21
slowbrothoreauputic, i installed shockwave and it told me to delete a file in theere02:21
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Rockett17how does one restrict access to a folder in apache and have it prompt for u/n & p/w?02:21
persiafloppyears: I don't know if it's that common, but I've seen a number of people put all sites under /var/www in separate directories and disable the normal server.02:21
cafuegoRockett17: install libapache(2)-mod-auth-* and configure it.02:21
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floppyearscafuego: thanks. I forgot about those commands. I was just reading a book on apache :)02:21
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cafuegotikka: I just see what's in there and edit at will.02:21
Rockett17should already be compiled into my set-up.. installed most modules when I compiled it :D02:22
cafuegoRockett17: wtf did you compile apache?02:22
thoreauputicslowbro: in where? it could be a number of places - possibly /usr/lib/mozilla : what sis it actually say?02:22
seliniumhi all, was running an update of packages though synaptic when my machine froze. It now locks up when booting up. I can get in through the terminal. How do i finish/check/repair the install?02:22
DJ_Necrogamianyone know any good bittorrent downloading programs for ubuntu?02:22
seliniumHi thoreauputic!02:22
Rockett17yea.. I alays have02:22
Rockett17always^02:22
cafuegoso no reason02:22
johnnybezakhey guys i am trying to get ndis going for my netgear wireless card, the driver is installed and ndiswrapper -l says the hardware is ok, only problem is when im trying to "modprobe ndiswrapper" i get this "operation not permitted" error even though im doing it as root. Anyone know why it is doing this?02:22
thoreauputic* s/sis/did02:22
catolhDJ_Necrogami, azureus02:22
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thoreauputichi selinium :)02:23
Rockett17haha02:23
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cafuegoRockett17: It *is* under /usr/local, right?02:23
Rockett17yep02:23
cafuegothank cthulhu for that02:23
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Xyc0gnite everyone02:24
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thoreauputicslowbro: to see where mozilla installs files try typing  dpkg -L mozilla-browser02:24
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slowbrothoreauputic, NOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser.02:24
acumomojoin #ubuntu-fr02:24
cafuegoacumomo: I don't want to.02:25
slowbrooh02:25
slowbrowait02:25
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johnnybe1aksorry guys i just dropped out, did anyone answer re my ndiswrapper kernel modprobe problem02:25
seliniumis there a command line for apt-get to smart select install that need upgrading?02:26
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persiaselinium: sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude upgrade02:27
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shinuhello02:27
seliniumpersia cheers, i'll give it a go!02:27
pantherhi02:27
timwill breezy come with evince, the pdf and other documents reader as default?02:27
shinujust wanted to ask how to share my internet connection with ubuntu02:28
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persiatim: in October02:28
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thoreauputicshinu: easy way is to install firestarter and enable NAT (network address translation) in the wizard thing - it's a one-click operation02:29
shinuthoreauputic: k, will try that one (just read it on forum 8) )02:30
persiaDoes anyone understand GNOME/X vs. console keyboard maps?  My ] } key shows as \| in X, but works on the console.02:30
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thoreauputicshinu: assuming you mean "share the connection *from* ubuntu "02:30
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shinuthoreauputic: from ubuntu with ubuntu 8)02:30
timpersia, huh? I asked if breezy (which is due out in october) will use evince, the document reader, by default02:30
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thoreauputicshinu: should be fine then :)02:30
persiatim: yes, it will.02:30
shinu:)02:31
timlol thanks :)02:31
travelleri installed a new motherboard and now the graphics in ubuntu is messed up, i don't even have keyboard on it, does anyone have any idea?02:31
shinualso, anyone has an idea why mplayer doesnt want to play my files? on my other comp with ubuntu it does perfectly...02:31
timout of curiousity when one would want to update to breezy...is the only thing they have to do change the "hoary" in their sources.list to "breezy"??02:32
shinuit stops at: alsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default02:32
Rockett17is there a way to do an upgrade with apt when breezy comes out? (don't wanna loose all my configuration)02:32
seliniumpersia Working! hopefully it will ressurect my machine! [fingers crossed]  :)02:32
persiatim: yes, but you don't want to do that yet...02:32
concept10persia, what?02:33
persiaRockett17: update /etc/apt/sources.list, and run sudo aptitude dist-upgrade02:33
timpersia lol the "DO NOT USE BREEZY YET - X is still broken" scared me away from that :)02:33
thoreauputictim: I think the answer to your original question is "yes" ( re: evince) It seems to be the new default for gnome 2.1202:33
Rockett17thanks persia02:33
Rockett17beats downloading and configuring everything again02:33
DJ_Necrogamicatolh: Thanks for the recomendation this is a great software02:34
persiaRockett17: Some programs appear to be changing, like the recently mentioned evince.  You'll probably have at least some config to do anyway.02:34
timis there going to be a colony 3 release before the final release?02:34
Rockett17persia: might actually be better to back-up my configuration files and just re-do her02:35
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penticlexhas any one tried getting xpde working on ubuntu02:36
thoreauputicewww... xpde02:36
Rockett17persia: sounds like an excuse to kick back with a 6 pack on a friday evenin' :)02:36
Nomad_1Does anyone know of a free version of something like partition magic? (A graphical windows partitioning program.)02:36
persiaRockett17: I did the potato -> woody & warty -> hoary transitions smoothy - dist-upgrade usually works for most things.02:36
penticlextrying to trick my wife into using linux02:36
concept10Nomad_1, qtparted02:36
thoreauputicNomad_1: qtparted or gparted02:36
Nomad_1concept10 and thoreauputic: Thanks guys.02:37
concept10penticlex, its actually not too hard.02:37
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thoreauputicpenticlex: heh - there's an XP look-alike theme for iceWM I believe02:37
penticlexI installed and nothing works correct02:38
d3javuSeveas, are you there friend?02:38
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penticlexI should have said I installed xpde and nothing works correct02:38
thoreauputicpenticlex: that's part of the windows emulation *grin*02:38
thoreauputicsorry couldn't resist...02:39
timhehe02:39
penticlexhehe02:39
thoreauputicto complete the illusion, set the default runlevel to 6 << don't try this at home kids02:40
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penticlexshe has to have the pretty pictures and avitars for messenger so I am triing to get an xp clone and then get wine working so thell never know02:40
penticlexI just installed ubuntu64  5.04 got the bugs02:42
penticlexout02:42
penticlexwas only a DNS issue02:42
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shinuthoreauputic: what if i have a strange usb modem? 8)02:43
timis there a release schedule for breezy I can take a look at (trying to figure out if theres gonna be any more colony releases or anything)02:43
thoreauputicshinu: I can't really help with usb modems: they are generally a pain in linux though02:44
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shinui got it running smoothly 8)02:44
shinubut i dont know how to share that connection...02:44
thoreauputicshinu: is it using ppp0 ? which interface is you internet interface? ( ifconfig)02:45
thoreauputic8your02:45
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thoreauputicbah02:45
persiatim: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule02:46
timthx02:46
thoreauputicshinu: I would expect firestarter to recognise your internet interface anyway.. it's ppp0 here02:46
shinuthoreauputic: hm.. seems to be ppp0 but i still cant connect with the other comp02:48
chiisaiErr... For some reason, synaptic refuses to start. It doesn't even give me a error message, the window never shows up. So... where do I start? How can I fix this? (No, I don't want to reboot. That's just so Windows-like. Rebooting a Linux system is just... stupid.)02:48
Magdeburgerlol02:48
wdhchiisai, :P02:48
chiisai._.02:48
wdhchiisai, killall firestarter ?02:48
wdhchiisai, it might have some process hiding somewhere02:48
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chiisaichiisai@lust:~$ ps aux | grep firestarter02:49
chiisaichiisai  27201  0.0  0.1   3016   756 pts/4    R+   14:49   0:00 grep firestarter02:49
persiachiisai: Try starting it in a terminal: this ought to at least give a message.02:49
thoreauputicshinu: you might need to restart the network - sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart02:49
chiisaichiisai@lust:~$ sudo synaptic02:49
chiisaichiisai@lust:~$ sudo synaptic02:49
chiisaiNope. :(02:49
chiisaiErr.02:49
chiisaiWait.02:49
Daveyyou know, persia, that table is backwards, the colors should run the other way and indicate stability :)02:49
chiisailol02:50
chiisaiIt was already running in another workspace T_T02:50
timno more colony releases :(02:50
thoreauputicchiisai: sorry that was meant for shinu02:50
thoreauputicah02:50
persiaDavey: It's not my table, but it's helpful anyway.02:50
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timwhere can you get those? i've been looking for some brain pills02:51
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thoreauputictim: patent pending - special price for you today !02:51
thoreauputic:)02:51
Chameleon22i use Logitech Elite keyboard with all them funky buttons for controlling audio, and chat, and blah blah blah ... are there any apps I could use to map those keys to the system like hotkeys or something ....?02:52
persiaChameleon22: System...Preferences...Keyboard SHortcuts allows some mapping.02:53
persiaChameleon22: Does your keyboard have a ] } key?02:54
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Chameleon22persia, what key?02:55
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timthoreauputic, hrmmm black market brain pills on sale......i'm interested :)02:55
thoreauputictim: I generally take them in liquid form though - or use a caffeine drip ;)02:56
persiaI have a logitech keyboard with a key with the } character printed above the ]  character.  It has all the extra buttons, so I thought it might be similar to yours.  In any case, this key shows \| in X, so I have to cut and paste.02:56
Chameleon22persia, k will try02:57
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ZincXcan i give a dns for my comp ?02:57
persiaZincX: Yes.02:58
seliniumpersia: Cheers, PC now working again!02:58
persiaselinium: Excellent!02:58
ZincXpersia, how ?02:58
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shinuthoreauputic: seems that when i restart my eth0, my inet connection dies 8)02:59
persiaZincX: aptitude search dns; aptitude show <interesting package>; sudo aptitude install <interesting package>02:59
seliniumpersia: you managed to svae the computer from the 'through the window treatment'! You saved it's life! :D02:59
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thoreauputicshinu: I would have thought eth0 was the interface for your local network, and ppp0 for the internet connection?03:01
shinuthoreauputic: yes, im suprised too 8)03:01
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ZincXpersia, how do i know which one /03:02
shinuthoreauputic: though, my system>administration>networking shows that ppp0 is off03:02
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thoreauputicshinu: you installed firestarter on the gateway box, right? does the shared machine point its gateway at that box?03:02
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shinuthoreauputic: i installed in on the gateway box (192.168.0.1) and the other machine worked fine with winxp as the gateway so i guess it does point to that ip03:03
shinu(which was the same under windows)03:03
thoreauputicshinu: hmm03:03
loorniMy friend is trying to install Ubuntu and he gets this error: "unlinked after no-irq?" "changin apic and acpi might help"03:03
shinuthoreauputic: how can i check if it does or not?03:03
cs378any reason why i cant connect to the internet, while the ethernet is active03:04
thoreauputicshinu: run route on the shared machine03:04
cs378i could go into my router ip03:04
cs378but no internet03:04
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shinuerm...03:04
persiaChameleon22: You might also try lineakd, but it's in universe03:04
shinudestination 192.168.0.0; gateway *03:04
cs378tried wireless, same thing happen03:04
shinuthoreauputic: is that right?03:04
Subliminalwhat kind of repository will libstdc++-libc be in?03:04
thoreauputicshinu: the gateway should be 192.168.0.1 right?03:05
shinuthoreauputic: i think so, how do i set it?03:05
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thoreauputicshinu: been a while since I did mine - the graphical tool has a gateway setting IIRC03:06
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shinuhow do i call the graphical too from xfce? ^^'03:06
anacronhey, what's the problem, when i restart my x with ctrl+alt+backspace, it wont actually restart, it only closes, then i have to open it with startx, and it automaticly logs in my account!, and after that my nvidia drivers won't work anymore in games (opengl problem or something)03:06
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thoreauputicshinu:  gnome-network-preferences ?  Assuming you have gnome...03:07
shinuthoreauputic: network-admin?03:07
ZincXpersia, i just installed pdnsd03:07
chaps0063I have my wireless configured for PEAP, how do I pass my credentials to access the network?03:07
ZincXwhat now ?03:07
thoreauputicah - could be that - I'm in fluxbox :)03:07
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persiaanacron: after restarting X, make sure the game that hung the machine is no longer running any processes...03:07
thoreauputicshinu: ^^03:07
anacronpersia: the game that hung?, it happens anytime i reboot x03:08
shinuthoreauputic: this thing you told me about is some proxy configuration :D03:08
anacronnot any, everytime i mean03:08
persiaZincX: I'm not familiar with pdnsd.  Your best sources of information are probably man pdnsd and looking in /usr/share/doc/pdnsd03:08
shinuthoreauputic: the network-admin shows me that my default gateway is 192.168.0.103:08
thoreauputicshanon: yeah - I just looked - sorry03:08
persiaanacron: This is with 7174?03:08
thoreauputicshinu: curiouser and curiouser03:08
anacronpersia: what is 7174?03:09
shinuthoreauputic: ok, i gotta go to the swimming pool 8) bbl03:09
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persiaanacron: The nvidia driver version.03:09
Subliminalwhere can i get libstdc++-libc for ubuntu?03:09
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anacronpersia: oh yes, 1.0-717403:10
blahblahsomeone help, i cant connect ot the internet, but seems that the ethernet did get the router ip n could connect to the routers setup page just no internet03:10
shinuthoreauputic: bye03:10
shinu:D03:10
ZincXpersia, which one do u use ?03:10
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Nomad_1Here's something I've never found an answer for: How do you uninstall grub?03:10
anacronblahblah: reboot your router03:10
persiaZincX: I used to run bind, but these days I just collect from DHCP.03:11
ZincXhmm03:11
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ZincXim totally clueless abt this..03:11
thoreauputicSubliminal: apt-cache search libstdc++  has a fair bit of output03:11
JaZy84can i use an externel cd rom to boot, i've got an ibook.03:11
JaZy84i have 5.04 installed but no sound.. i was going to try to reinstall 5.04 but now cd drive doesn't like the cd.03:11
persiaanacron: Are there any interesting errors in the log file?03:11
JaZy84:(03:11
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Subliminalthoreauputic: it seems the -libc bit on the end is important :-/ i've installed libstdc++03:12
anacronpersia: can you tell me which log03:12
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anacronsomething like xorg.log?03:12
thoreauputicSubliminal: are you compiling something? If so, what?03:12
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aruif enlightenment is installed, will it screw anything up in gnome like kde does?03:12
Subliminalthoreauputic: yes, the j2ee03:12
thoreauputicah03:12
Belutzhow do i enable DMA for /dev/cdrom ?03:13
persiaZincX: If you need to manage your own DNS server, you're best off looking at a few tools, and choosing one with an interface you like.  If you don't need to manage one, read the docs, and play with what you like.  If you just want DNS resolution, you don't need any of those packages.03:13
thoreauputicSubliminal: that's out of my league I'm afraid03:13
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Subliminalok, thanks03:13
Subliminaldo you know anyone i could ask?03:13
blahblahhow do i enable internet03:13
blahblahsheesh03:13
[Spooky] hello, i need help in forceing the eject of my dvd rom anyone ?03:13
persiaanacron: /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:13
Subliminalblahblah: elaborate03:14
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Belutz[Spooky] : sudo eject /dev/cdrom03:14
the--dud[Spooky] , use something pointy to poke in that little hole on your cdrom03:14
sociopathblahblah: do you have the correct gateway set?03:14
thoreauputicSubliminal: it's java right? MAybe #java if there is one on Freenode03:14
Subliminalthoreauputic: cheers03:14
thoreauputicSubliminal: I checked - there's about 113 people there03:14
persiaBelutz: aptitude install hdparm; man hdparm.  Be very very careful.03:15
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chaps0063how do I configure my wireless to pass credentials to authenticate against a wireless network that has PEAP enabled?03:15
[Spooky] Belutz:  sudo didnt work03:15
anacronpersia: something at files already registered at priority 003:15
[Spooky] its not the first time...03:15
Belutz[Spooky] : then do what the--dud told you03:15
persiaanacron: This is a line beginning with EE?03:15
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the--dudalso, try lsof /dev/cdrom as well [Spooky] 03:15
Belutz[Spooky] : is your dvd rom mounted at /dev/cdrom ?03:16
the--dudsomething might be hogging your cdrom03:16
anacronpersia: it's in the end of file03:16
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anacronpersia: and the last error is "could not init font paht element unix/:7100 removing from list"03:16
persiaanacron: Take a look for lines starting EE from the beginning of the file.  Sometimes the error happes early, and it takes a while to crash.03:16
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Belutzpersia: isn't hdparm only for hdd ?03:16
persiaanacron: Did you recently try upgrading to breezy?03:17
anacronpersia: no03:17
persiaBelutz: I thought it was for all IDE devices.  If you have a USB or SCSI CDROM, it probably won't work.  The manual knows better than I do.03:17
[Spooky] had to shut down gam_server03:17
Belutzpersia: ok03:17
[Spooky] whats that ?03:17
persiaanacron: Do you have xfonts-??dpi installed?03:18
thoreauputicBelutz: hdparm can set DMA on CD-ROM and DVD drives as well as hard disks03:18
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thoreauputicBelutz: persia is right that scsi is a different story03:18
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aromanhello03:19
anacronpersia: yes, 100dpi, 75dpi03:19
Belutzthoreauputic: ok thx :) it's an IDE DVD rom actually... reading the man page now03:19
londonboi2k3Hi guys, just made a fresh install of ubuntu, but i am having probs installing bzflag, im getting a dep problem with libcurl3 I have it install with the dev packages, but i think i am missing something and cant remember what it is! Any ideas plseas?03:19
persia!paste03:19
ubotuhmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text03:19
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persiaanacron: if you put your log on that website, I'll review it.03:19
aromanI have compiled a kernel module using module-assistant. When I update the kernel through apt-get, will I have to re-compile that kernel module manually?03:20
anacronpersia: ok, thanks03:20
persiaaroman: Whenever the kernel ABI changes (a new directory will appear in /lib/modules)03:20
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thoreauputiclondonboi2k3: bzflag is in the repos - apt-cache search bzflag (or you need to add repositories)03:20
anacronpersia: there it is03:21
londonboi2k3yeah, i know but its at version 1.10 in the repos, bzflag is at 2.0.2 now :)03:21
aromanpersia, ok. Is there any way to make apt-get upgrade invoke module-assistant to re-compile my module whenever a kernel update takes place?03:21
ZincXpersia, is there a document i can read ?03:21
persiaaroman: Not one I know.  Sorry.03:21
londonboi2k3so i use the debian packeges, but there is a dep problem, i know its easy enough to fix cus someone helped me here before, but i have forgot the other dep i need to install to sort it out03:22
aromanpersia. no problem03:22
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persiaZincX: Try searching google for DNS server or name server.  For specific servers, /usr/share/doc/foo or the canonical (small-c) websites are the best bet.03:22
ZincXhmm.. k.. lemme see03:23
persiaanacron: it crashes my browser.  It'll take me a minute...03:23
londonboi2k3any other suggestions guys :)03:24
anacronpersia: no hurry03:24
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londonboi2k3ahh its ok, fixed bzflag prob now,03:24
persiaanacron: It won't load in w3m either.  Grrr...03:24
anacronpersia: haha use links2 :)03:25
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anacroni just thought yesterday that, "hmm it's nice to use linux for surfing since you can watch all pornosites and search all cracks you need, or what ever suspicious you do, and you don't have to worry a bit of viruses"03:27
InitMassif i want to use xfce, should i install the package called xfce or xfce4?03:27
Belutzpersia: the hdparm command will then save to /etc/hdparm.conf ?03:27
anacronInitMass: xfce403:27
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thoreauputicInitMass: xfce4 definitely03:27
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digaohey, i have one machine with debian and i want to overide it with ubuntu. is there a way to do this only using the internet?03:27
InitMassanacron, thoreauputic thanx03:28
persiaBelutz: My apologies, but I don't remember.  /usr/share/doc/hdparm or man hdparm should explain.03:28
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Belutzpersia: ok will read again :)03:28
thoreauputicBelutz: you need to edit hdparm.conf03:28
anacronso bash is for running scripts huh?03:28
Belutzthoreauputic: edit it? not just using hdparm command?03:28
thoreauputicBelutz: the comments in that file are helpfu;03:28
thoreauputic*helpful03:29
chaps0063has anyone gotten PEAP to work?03:29
Belutzthoreauputic: yup... but i'm afraid to make mistakes for this case03:29
thoreauputicBelutz: /etc/hdparm.conf ensures the settinfs are not lost on reboot03:29
thoreauputic*settings03:29
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Belutzthoreauputic: ic... so using hdparm only set the DMA temporarily ?03:29
thoreauputicBelutz: have a look - at worst it won't work ;)03:30
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mcscruffhow do i install a multimedia framework?03:30
persiaBelutz: before editing you may want to copy the file to /etc/hdparm.orig03:30
thoreauputicBelutz: yes, the command lasts until reboot03:30
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Belutzpersia: hmm that's a very bright idea :D03:30
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mjrmcscruff, you should have one installed; if you want to know something more spesific, make it clear03:31
mcscruffim trying to compile amarok beta and its saying i need one03:31
mjr(Ubuntu installs the gstreamer framework by default)03:31
mcscruffmaybe i removed it when playing03:31
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mjrwell, I shan't comment on amarok, but most probably you're missing the needed development libraries (dunno which, that's up to amarok)03:32
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jinohi all03:32
persiaanacron: Is X hung when the log file is in the posted state?  Everything looks fine.  Are there EE lines in /var/log/Xorg,1,log?03:32
jinoi have a question03:32
jinohow do i set my laptop to restrt in ubuntu03:33
jinoit doesnt do so by default03:33
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Belutzpersia, thoreauputic: thx for your help :) nero for linux is great :D03:36
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anacronpersia: seems like now when i reset x, nvidia works fine, but it still don't ask me any passwords, just logs in, and i have to manually type startx to get it work03:36
persiaanacron: Do you have xdm, kdm, or gdm installed?03:36
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aromanO_o what happened??03:37
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ZincXwhat the ?03:37
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anacronnetsplit03:37
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ZincXthats a netsplit ?03:37
Daveynetsplat :)03:37
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Daveypast tense ;)03:37
aromanok what are netsplits exactly?03:38
Kamping_Kaiserlol03:38
anacronservers disconnect from others03:38
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aromanhmm I wonder..03:38
persiaanacron: startx is not supposed to ask for a password, and ctrl-alt-backspace will kill startx, returning you to your terminal.  You are either  experiencing normal behavior, or your desktop manager is seriously misconfigured.03:38
samuaroman, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit03:38
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anacronpersia: i have gdm03:39
aromanwe keep a local copy of apt-get ubuntu mirror...03:39
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newubuntucan anyone help me03:39
persiaanacron: when you boot, does gdm bring up a login screen?03:39
mjrnewubuntu, that's what the channel is for03:39
aromanwould it be hard to  add another package to the repository?03:39
anacronpersia: yes, that works fine03:39
mjrnewubuntu, but that particular question is hard to answer03:39
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newubuntuok jr i need help installing limewire03:39
persiaanacron: When you log out fro the menu, does it ask for a password again?03:39
anacronpersia: now nvidia works fine too, so i don't have the "problem" anymore03:39
newubuntui did everything it said03:39
newubuntubut the program wont start03:39
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persiaanacron: Great!  Never mind then.03:40
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thoreauputicnewubuntu: do you have java installed?03:40
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newubuntui think i do03:40
anacronpersia: amm03:40
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seliniumi have an oldish image of Hoary 5.04 on disc. If i were to download it again will the image contain the latest updates? So as not to have to update as soon as installed?03:40
jinoSeveas , how can i install realplayer03:40
anacronpersia: not quite, when i log out, it won't ask my password either03:40
anacronpersia: if i boot, then it will03:40
ColonelKernelselinium, no03:40
newubuntuhow do i know if i have java installed03:41
aromanis there a guide on how to create .deb packages?03:41
thoreauputic!java03:41
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.03:41
anacron!ftp03:41
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, anacron03:41
anacron:<03:41
seliniumColonelKernel: cheers, Saves me about half an hour trying it out! :)03:41
ColonelKernelnp03:41
ColonelKernelit works ok w/o updates too , at least here03:41
persiaanacron: take a look in System...Administration...Login Screen Setup.  Are any of the autologin settings set?03:41
newubuntuhow would i know if i have java installed theore03:41
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Belutzanyone knows a goo guide how to create scripts for nautilus ?03:42
Belutz*good03:42
anacronpersia: nope03:42
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travellerfor some reason the graphics and keyboard are not working with my new motherboard, does anyone know why?03:42
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aruliar03:42
aruif the keyboard wasn't working you wouldn't be typing03:43
thoreauputicnewubuntu: you would know if you had installed it - read the link ubotu spat out above03:43
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anacron...03:43
newubuntuwhat03:43
thoreauputicnewubuntu:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java03:43
travelleraru: i'm on another computer03:43
newubuntuok03:43
arutraveller: I figured as much, but it doesn't stop me from being an ass :)03:43
anacrontraveller: is your keyboard usb?03:44
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thoreauputicnewubuntu: make sure you click the link it tells you to click ;)03:44
travelleranacron: it's ps/203:44
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anacrontraveller: well anyways have you updated your bios?03:44
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thoreauputicnewubuntu: i.e. you need the hoary-extras03:44
KemitoHi Everyone.03:44
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anacronhi Kemito03:45
topyliBelutz: study the nautilus scripts you can find on http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net03:45
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travelleranacron: nope, do i really need to update the bios? it's an asus a8v board03:45
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newubuntuhow do i get that03:45
KemitoI managed to fix a problem I had with screen resolutions yesterday, after going back to the HowTo page on the wiki again.03:45
anacrontraveller: hah i have same board, and you really do!03:45
KemitoSo thanks for that tip, Seveas.  Hi Anacron.03:46
thoreauputicnewubuntu: click the link on the java page to see how to add hoary-extras03:46
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KemitoHowever, I couldn't get my refresh rate to change from 60hz.03:46
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Kemitoeven after doing everything in the HowTo page.03:46
persiaanacron: Ummm...  I don't think I know anything more useful on that issue.  Apologies.  It sounds like something is caching the credentials somewhere, or autologin is configured somewhere.03:46
travelleranacron: that sucks :( i was wondering why it doesn't work anymore. i'll try to update the bios, thank you03:46
thoreauputicnewubuntu: where it says "Add the hoary-extras repository as described in this guide."03:46
Belutztopyli: thx for the link :)03:47
anacrontraveller: for god sake, i couldn't use my usb-cd at first, with bios update it worked, after then my mouse started to disconnect randomly, and when i updated yesterday again (no beta version this time) now it works too03:47
anacronor maybe it was beta version too...03:47
anacronwell everything seems to work now :)03:47
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travelleranacron: oddly everything works fine with my other distro, but ubuntu was the only one that could get me online03:48
anacronexecpt that x rebooting...03:48
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Kemitospeaking of rebooting - how do you get back into it after hitting control-alt-backspace?03:51
Kemitoit drops me to a command line and from there I'm not able to go anywhere yet03:52
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Bubbling_Zombiesudo gdm03:52
Kemitoooooooh03:53
persiaanacron: One last thought: take a look at `diff /etc/gdm/gdm.conf /etc/gdm/factory-gdm.conf` and see if anything leaps out.03:53
Kemito=) Hey thanks.03:53
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anacron:<03:54
anacronand now when i got stuff he runs away03:54
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hoslerHey is there a good linux program for ripping songs off of an ipod?03:54
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aromanhosler cp ;)03:54
il_padrinohi03:54
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il_padrinoi need a repository for BitchX-1.1-final03:54
il_padrino:P03:54
philipshosler: hosler  apt-cache search ipod03:54
hosleraroman: but the ipod has all the music in weird folders. I need a program that with like organize it for me too.03:55
hoslerphilips: ok03:55
hoslerphilips: Should i get gnupod or gtkpod?03:55
philipshosler: gtkpod is a gui - gnupod are command line perl tools03:56
the--dudyour best shot is downloading it from http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/bitchx il_padrino03:57
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the--dudand of course installing that .deb file with dpkg -i <file>.deb03:58
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Deterministanyone here that managed to install xmame and make it work properly?04:00
il_padrinothe--dud, xD04:01
il_padrinothz04:01
the--dudno problem...04:01
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ghost^|patrickhi04:01
ghost^|patricki have serious problems starting ubuntu after if crashed yesterday04:01
ghost^|patrickit04:02
Nicat least is not as bad as my brothers and stepbrothers computers04:02
Nicthey both BSOD04:02
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Nichow stupid is that04:02
thoreauputicghost^|patrick: are you using hoary? Hoary has been rock-solid here...04:02
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ghost^|patrickubuntu 5.04 hoary04:03
ghost^|patricksomehting with tty104:03
ghost^|patrickand then it asks for agamenon user and pass04:03
ghost^|patrickbut my password doesnt work04:03
ghost^|patrickand i cant boot to gui04:03
ghost^|patrick:(04:03
ghost^|patrickyesterday i installed the ati driver from synaptic04:03
ghost^|patrickand played with it about 3h04:03
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ghost^|patrickthen i tried to watch the ogl screensaver of kde04:04
ghost^|patrickat that mometn system frooze04:04
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ghost^|patricki couldnt even reboot x after that04:04
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ghost^|patricknow i am in windows and dont know what i should do04:04
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ghost^|patrickor what i should google04:05
ghost^|patrick:/04:05
thoreauputicghost^|patrick: have you tried uninstalling the driver?04:05
ghost^|patrickhow?04:05
ghost^|patricki cant access the system04:05
ghost^|patricksystem starts booting up04:05
ghost^|patrickthen it suddenly asks a pass for tty104:05
Sonderbladedoes ubuntu have deb's for libjpeg optimized for P4 cpus?04:05
seliniumis there a way of getting thunderbird to read the /user/mbox file?04:05
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InitMasswhich is the easiest way to copy some files from one computer to another over a network?04:05
thoreauputicghost^|patrick: and your password doesn't work?04:06
Belutzhow to search packages with apt-get ?04:06
ghost^|patrickbut either my pass or my user id isnt accepted anymore04:06
thoreauputicweird04:06
ghost^|patrickya, weired :(04:06
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seliniumBelutz: Cntl F04:06
thoreauputicghost^|patrick: try to boot in recovery mode, then set a new password04:06
seliniumBelutz: Ctrl F04:06
hoslerAre there any good linux music orginizer programs out there?04:06
Belutzselinium: i mean the command line for searching packages using apt-get command04:07
spiralcan anyone recommend a good easy mailserver to install on ubuntu?04:07
spiraleasy to install and configure?04:07
thoreauputicspiral: you already have postfix04:07
ghost^|patrickthoreauputic: how do i do that?04:07
ghost^|patrickcan u give my some words i can google for04:07
ghost^|patricknecessary commands etc.?04:07
seliniumBelutz: apt-cache search <filename>04:07
thoreauputicghost^|patrick: there should be a recovery option in the grub bootscreen when you boot04:08
spiralthoreauputic, ok, is that easy to use and configure?04:08
Belutzselinium: thx :)04:08
ghost^|patrickya.. ist there a gui or console in recoverymode?04:08
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seliniumBelutz: np04:08
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thoreauputicspiral: no idea really - it is supposed to be easier than sendmail :) I don't run a mailserver except locally04:09
thoreauputicspiral: I guess "man postfix" is your first port of call ;)04:10
thoreauputicspiral: "apropos postfix " outputs quite a lot too04:10
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hosleramorok is spelled how i just spelled it right?04:11
spiralNo manual entry for postfix04:11
lamontspiral: www.postfix.org04:11
thoreauputicspiral: erm - yes there is - I'm looking at it04:11
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thoreauputicspiral: try " apropos postfix"04:11
thoreauputichosler:  amarok04:13
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thoreauputicghost^|patrick: recovery mode gives you a root shell, IIRC04:14
Raskall-edgehmm.. irc is the only application I need !UTF-8 in. Is there a way of starting gnome-terminal with iso-8859-1 as charset?04:14
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mjrRaskall-edge, I think if you save a session with !utf-8 terminal, it'll remember that04:15
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Raskall-edgemjr: nope.. I need to do something like "LANG=something.iso8859-1 gnome-terminal" from the launcher. but I cant figure out what something.iso8859-1 should be.04:16
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CzarAlexIm not sure if this is an issue with apache or ubuntu. My apache server runs just fine. webpages i host load fast. however, when other people try to download large files from my site, their speeds are capped around 45-46k. Is this a setting with apache or ubuntu. I can download the large files from another terminal on my network with incredible speed.04:18
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ChrischiOHi04:19
TheSinX is still broken??  Works fo rme04:19
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Raskall-edgeCzarAlex: what is your wan-link? sounds like you have an upload-rate lower than download rate (adsl, that is). of course you get fast speeds. you are on the same lan as your webserver.04:19
topyliRaskall: check your current LANG and use that as a base for the terminal locale04:20
CzarAlexWhat do yo mean by wan-link? Its a cable connection and the web server is hardwired to the network04:20
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ChrischiOis ubuntu able to read/write ntfs?04:21
topylino04:21
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thoreauputicChrischiO: read-only04:21
Raskall-edgetopyli: my current lang is UTF-8. what I do now is start a gnome-terminal and select Western (iso-8859-1) from the Terminal->Set character encoding menu04:21
ChrischiOhm04:21
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thoreauputicChrischiO: as for all other linux distros04:21
Chameleon22are there any utilities to show me keycode for my keyboard when i press them ?04:21
CzarAlexRaskall-edge, I wasnt sure if it made a difference, but I would access the website through its hostname instead of ip addy. I thought that may cause the server to treat me like a normal user not on the network.04:22
thoreauputicexcept if they have captive ntfs, which is still experimental04:22
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ploumHello04:22
oggahis there any BSD Live-CD distro? (small, lightweight=04:22
ploumhow can I add the debian menu in "applications". I've apt-getted menu, menu-xdg but nothing, even after a reboot04:22
topyliRaskall-edge: ah. well, just do dpkg-reconfigure locales and generate a locale you like04:22
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Raskall-edgeCzarAlex: nope.. you access your external interface from the inside. so you are still on the lan.04:22
Raskall-edgetopyli: :) I figured that out 3 seconds before you told me.04:23
topyliheh04:23
CzarAlexRaskall-edge, ah ok. Are ya saying it could be comcast and not me?04:23
littlewormtotem plays only the sound in video files, solutions?04:23
thoreauputicploum: run update-menus04:23
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Raskall-edgeCzarAlex: it sounds like your wan-link (internet connection) is that slow, yes. isp's often set the upload stream to a lower rate than you pay for.04:24
ploumthoreauputic: already done, also04:24
topyliploum: there is (at least used to be) a bug that gives you duplicates in the debian menu if you run update-menus both as root and as user04:24
topyliploum: so choose one or the other :)04:24
Raskall-edgeCzarAlex: remember that when anyone surfs on your webserver, you are uploading to them. so if you have adsl you will have a lot lower speed for your visitors than when you surf on the web (read download)04:24
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mastertetHello04:25
dArtagnanyou need sdsl for a good server :)04:25
zAo^lo all04:25
anacronim trying to open demofile which won in assembly05 4k combo, but when i try to start it with ./makeit4k screen goes black for a sec and then it gives error: fatal signal: segmentation fault (SLD Parachute Deployed)04:25
CzarAlexRaskall-edge I have cable from comcast. does that change anything?04:25
hosleramorok is spelled how i just spelled it right?04:25
mastertetCan someone tell me what will be the new features of breezy, except Gnome 2.1204:25
anacronanacron: can someone help me with running it?04:25
thoreauputichosler: no - amarok04:26
hoslerok04:26
Raskall-edgeCzarAlex: I don't know what line you have. check your invoice from your isp to check your speed.04:26
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zAo^mastertet, GCC4, X11R704:26
littlewormtotem plays only the sound in video files, solutions?04:26
CzarAlexRaskall-edge Thanks for your time. :)04:26
zAo^littleworm, w32codecs04:26
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il_padrinohi04:27
il_padrinoil_padrino  bitchx depende de libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); sin embargo:04:27
il_padrinoil_padrino   Versin de libc6  en el sistema es 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13.04:27
il_padrinoil_padrino  bitchx depende de libncurses5 (>= 5.4-5); sin embargo:04:27
il_padrinoil_padrino   Versin de libncurses5  en el sistema es 5.04:27
Raskall-edgetopyli: it worked. :) I just hadn't generated the right locale04:27
il_padrinoi need this lib :P04:27
zAo^il_padrino, dont install that debian deb04:27
mastertetzAo^, thanks, but is there something new apart of software updates, some new config tool or else?04:27
Seveasil_padrino, do not paste in here...04:27
littlewormzAo^, synaptic can't find it04:27
anacronhey anyone? segmentation fault SDL parachute deployed? what does that mean04:27
il_padrinozAo^,  why??04:27
thoreauputicil_padrino: trying to install a new libc6 will result in much pain04:28
mjranacron, your program crashed :)04:28
Seveasil_padrino, and install anly from ubuntu repositories. NOT from debian repositories04:28
zAo^mastertet, there will be some new tools, new programms and everything will be updated04:28
littlewormzAo^, synaptic can't find it04:28
zAo^il_padrino, it's Debian's. Use Ubuntu's04:28
il_padrinoSeveas, but bitchx1.1-final isn't for ubuntu04:28
anacronmjr: do you have something that i dont know yet? :D04:28
topyliRaskall-edge: happy non-annoying non-utf8 ircing :)04:28
zAo^littleworm, dont hammer man.04:28
tombshi ppl04:28
mastertetzAo^, is there a spot where I can read about breezy progresses04:28
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zAo^littleworm, install every gstreamer-thingy04:28
Seveasil_padrino, then use an older version or apt-get source it from breezy...04:29
zAo^mastertet, let me see :)04:29
ploumtopyli: it works now, thx :-)04:29
Seveasmastertet, udu.wiki.ubuntu.com04:29
il_padrinobreezy hummm.....04:29
Raskall-edgetopyli: thanx. :)04:29
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zAo^@ breezy here04:29
zAo^mastertet, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BreezyGoals04:29
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mastertetthank you very much zAo^04:30
Raskall-edgezAo^: and x works?04:30
topyliRaskall-edge: truth be told i'd be happier if irc went utf8 too. but some networks are quite conservative04:30
zAo^Raskall, yes, mine does. But I have some pkgs from last week :)04:30
Seveastopyli, i don't blame them04:31
Seveasgoing utf8 can explode the traffic :)04:31
zAo^even the week before04:31
topylii do =)04:31
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topyliSeveas: yes well, i guess so04:31
Raskall-edgetopyli: yup. Actually I don't care what charset is used, as long as it works and looks good everywhere. but i guess that is the intention of utf-8.04:31
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r0bbyweee about to have my first drive fail on me04:32
r0bby<3 smartmontools04:32
r0bbysays in less than 24 hours it will be dead04:32
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Seveaslol04:32
r0bbySMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED!04:32
r0bbyDrive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA.04:32
r0bby:(04:32
topyliRaskall: i do use utf8 on freenode and gimpnet but on ircnet it's still a no-no04:32
littlewormzAo^, i installed every gstreamer-thing and it still doesn't work04:32
Raskall-edger0bby: the drive on my (brand new, two months old) laptop failed yesterday. Just before the backup of two months work was about to start.04:32
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zAo^littleworm, well, I dont know. I use Mplayer04:33
r0bbyi imaged the drive using dd04:33
r0bby:)04:33
r0bbyso i'm good04:33
r0bby:)04:33
r0bbyit's imaged onto a healthy drive04:33
littlewormzAo^, it doesn't work as well04:33
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Raskall-edgetopyli: on my behalf the problem is irssi. afaik it does not support utf-8. know about recode.pl, though, but that isn't good enough04:33
zAo^littleworm, error msg?04:33
mjrirssi does support utf-804:33
topylir0bby: since you have backups, the drive will most likely last forever ;-)04:33
Seveasil_padrino, still here?04:34
dArtagnanmplayer is so bugged, really when it comes to playing dvd WITH sound04:34
mjrwhat it doesn't support yet (in release versions) is charset conversions04:34
littlewormzAo^, non, it just gets stuck04:34
Raskall-edgemjr: the version in apt?04:34
il_padrinoSeveas, yes04:34
mjrbut you can use it on an utf-8 terminal just fine04:34
seliniumRaskall-ege: take a look at rsync it can image your drives incremantally and automatically04:34
KmorphI just want to send a huge thank you to all the people who made Ubuntu possible. Its really changed much for me.04:34
Seveasi'm building the breezy packages for hoary now04:34
mjrRaskall-edge, I think so, it's supported it since forever04:34
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Raskall-edgeselinium: it was rsync that was about to start when things failed.04:34
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ma3xhow can i empty the trash in evolution mail?04:35
il_padrinoSeveas, for bitchx1.1-final ?04:35
KemitoKmorph: what's it changed for you?04:35
thoreauputicRaskall-edge: perhaps you are using irssi in a non utf-8 term like aterm ?04:35
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topylima3x: there's a menu entry in the Actions menu04:35
Raskall-edgemjr: so how do I turn on utf-8? on our company internal irc-channel I type iso-8859-1 from irssi.04:35
seliniumRaskall-edge: aargh don't you just hate that! I had a hard drive go down, i went to a specialist recovery place who wanted to charge 25 per Gig recovered..... I just lived with the loss...04:36
ma3xthanks topyli04:36
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ChrischiO`GERehm.. max partition size for FAT32 is some above a TeraByte, isnt it?04:36
Seveasil_padrino, no, seems like breezy doesn't have it too...04:36
Seveasil_padrino, from which repository did you get that deb>04:36
Seveas?04:36
mjrRaskall-edge, it should detect it from locales, but if it doesn't, /set term_type utf8. Of course, you need to actually talk utf-8 to it from the terminal, then.04:36
KmorphI'm was previously using Debian and had to go through so mant configuration,but now I just have to sit back and enjoy my seat04:36
mjrRaskall-edge, sorry, utf-8. And it might still need a restart after that, not sure.04:36
topyliKmorph: boring isn't it :)04:36
zAo^littleworm, use you console to discover why04:36
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ma3xis there any good program to backup my ubuntu?04:37
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il_padrinoSeveas, http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/bitchx04:37
Goodspeed_why can't i edit my xorg.conf?04:37
il_padrinoGoodspeed,04:37
il_padrinolike root ?04:37
Raskall-edgemjr: thank you. I'd like to hug you. now i don't need to use the ugly xchat on the internal irc.04:37
seliniumma3x: rsync is great04:37
il_padrinosudo nano xorg.cong04:37
il_padrino?04:37
il_padrinosudo nano xorg.conf04:37
Goodspeed_sure04:37
KmorphIts the idea behind Ubuntu that I love most, not the boring part of sitting back watching it do autoconfigs04:37
Goodspeed_ill try that04:37
Raskall-edgewell.. got to go.. the train is almost home...04:38
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Seveasil_padrino, hang on04:38
Goodspeed_thatt thing just opened a blank text doc in terminal04:38
ma3xselinium, how does it backup, copying the files only, or plus with compression?04:38
r0bbytopyli, one can wish04:38
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topyliKmorph: yes. you get mostly sane defaults. still you can customize it like debian itself. best of both worlds04:38
r0bbyi'll come home and try and access the mount point, and it wont work04:38
r0bby:P04:38
seliniumma3x: it is a command line program so you can get it to do anything04:39
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Kmorphtopyli -> Sure04:39
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topylir0bby: naah. things only break when your backups are old04:39
ma3xselinium, I need graphic program, I am a newbie04:39
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thoreauputicGoodspeed: /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:39
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Goodspeed_so is there a way to edit xorg.conf>?04:39
r0bbymy backups can't be old ;P04:39
Goodspeed_i know where it is04:39
Goodspeed_but its readonly04:39
r0bbyntfs is read-only04:39
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thoreauputicGoodspeed: erm - you need to use sudo to edit it04:40
Goodspeed_i have04:40
seliniumma3x: try Ghost for Linux  http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_detail.php?id_item=426504:40
Goodspeed_sudo -e04:40
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Goodspeed_but when i save it04:40
Goodspeed_i overwrite the old one04:40
Goodspeed_and i get permission denied04:40
seliniumma3x: it looks like it will serve your purposes.04:41
ma3xselinium, is it available as a package?04:41
thoreauputicGoodspeed_: ? just run sudo nano /path/to/file  - you can save it for sure (I don't know why you are using sudo -e)04:41
Goodspeed_me either04:41
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seliniumma3x: I do not know.... Take a look! others can be found at http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_list.php?id_kategory=8904:42
Goodspeed_what would the bus id be for a pci express card?04:42
Goodspeed_im installing my radeon04:42
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topyliGoodspeed_: check with lspci04:43
Goodspeed_wheres taht?04:43
topyliit's just a command04:43
thoreauputicGoodspeed_: just type lspci ( or lspci | less )04:43
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ma3xok thanks selinium04:44
Goodspeed_and the numbers like 0000:01:00.0 is the bus number?04:44
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seliniumma3x: np04:44
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topyliGoodspeed_: yes. i think you can disregard the first 0000:04:45
Goodspeed_PCI:1:0:004:45
Goodspeed_that was in xorg04:45
Goodspeed_so is that right?04:45
Goodspeed_under device04:45
mastertetWow04:45
Goodspeed_for my video card04:45
Seveasil_padrino, the package needs other things from newer versions too04:45
Seveastoo much work :)04:45
topyliGoodspeed_: the syntax is right. i don't know of course if it's the right bus :)04:45
Goodspeed_ok04:45
mastertetUbuntu is really progressing!04:46
Goodspeed_im just making sure... i've reinsalled ubuntu three times in the past 24 hours04:46
il_padrinoSeveas, like ncurse and libc6 ?04:46
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topyliGoodspeed_: yes well, you have to stop doing that :)04:46
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mastertetzAo^, is beagle included in your Ubuntu version?04:47
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Seveasil_padrino, no it needs a newer quilt than hoary has :)04:48
mastertetI'm currently using debian bu I think I'll switch to Ubuntu when breezy is released04:48
zAo^mastertet, it inst, its in the repo though04:48
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mastertetok04:49
zAo^reboot04:49
Kimppahello.. I was wondering if someone could help me with a printer problem04:49
GoodspeedOK now that i've tackled the video card... how would i got about installing an audigy ls card?04:49
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Kimppahow do I convert a plain text file into postscript format so I can print it?04:53
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mjrKimppa, with mpage04:54
Goodspeedhow can i get into a folder if it says that i cant04:54
Goodspeedeven though its there in terminal04:54
Goodspeedcd right?04:54
Goodspeednmmmm04:54
Goodspeedhow would i install libusb development libraries?04:55
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topyliGoodspeed: do something like "apt-cache search libusb | grep dev" to find the package you want04:55
thoreauputicGoodspeed: it sounds like you are doing everything the hard way04:56
Goodspeedim following guides at forums04:56
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Goodspeedon ubuntu's04:56
Goodspeeddo i want the usb or the hid04:56
Goodspeed?04:56
dArtagnansudo cd /dir ?04:56
ma3xhow do I switch keyboard layouts?04:57
zAo^Goodspeed, for dir: sudo cd /dir. For pkg: sudo apt-get install libusb-dev04:58
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spamalopehow can i search for a package name via command line?04:58
zAo^ma3x, in gnome?04:58
ma3xzAo^, yes!04:58
zAo^spamalope, apt-cache search <PKG>/<STRING>04:58
thoreauputicspamalope: apt-cache search <packagename>04:58
dArtagnansudo apt-get search package04:58
spamalopethanks04:58
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thoreauputicdArtagnan: the sudo is uneccessary for searches04:59
Goodspeedconfigure:1855: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH04:59
Goodspeedwhat does that mean?04:59
thoreauputicGoodspeed: sudo apt-get install build-essential04:59
dArtagnanok, didn't knew that, never tried it without sudo04:59
topylidArtagnan: also, you'd use apt-cache04:59
Goodspeedthoreauputic you are a god04:59
thoreauputicyou need to install compiler tools04:59
zanyhey everyone04:59
wdh!package php504:59
ubotuwdh: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about04:59
ma3xzAo^, how?05:00
thoreauputicGoodspeed: you wouldn't say that if you met me ;)05:00
zAo^ma3x, srry. menu > system > settings > keyboard TAB: layouts05:00
Echelon-H. #05:00
thoreauputicwdh: AFAIK php5 isn't available in hoary05:01
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Goodspeedhow do i go up a directory05:02
zanyhow do i modify gnome menu please ? (like adding a program to Application->Internet)05:02
thoreauputicGoodspeed:  cd ..05:02
lerojsmeg?05:02
thoreauputicnote two dots Goodspeed05:02
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zAo^how can I connect to a hostname only? do I need to edit /etc/hosts??05:02
zanyleroj, "smeg" i don't find this package for 5.0405:02
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r00t_m0j0hi every105:03
zanythat's what i've found in faq though05:03
zAo^lo05:03
lerojok05:03
chicken_manI get this error when i try to configure Pango::  configure: WARNING: No fontconfig found, skipping tests for FreeType and Xft05:03
chicken_manconfigure: error: *** Didn't find any of FreeType, X11, or Win3205:03
chicken_man***Must have at least one backend to build Pango.05:03
thoreauputiczAo^: either DNS or an entry in /etc/hosts, yeah05:03
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r00t_m0j0I got into some trouble with ATI frglx, there is no such resitricted module for kernel 2.6.12-605:03
zAo^thanks thoreauputic05:03
r00t_m0j0any1 know how to get those restricted module?05:03
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Tomcat_r00t_m0j0: Do you need a newer kernel than 2.6.10?05:04
Goodspeedhow do i use synaptics to satisfy the dependences?05:04
glickexcuse me arnt the wxpython2.6.0.1 debs in the repos yet?05:04
glicki still have 2.5.305:04
r00t_m0j0Tomcat_: i m with Breezy, so..no choice, must stick with 2.6.12-605:05
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konutholas05:05
ColonelKernelr00t_m0j0, I use that kernel on hoary05:05
zAo^glick, in Breezy they are05:06
chicken_manis GTK+ is the repository ?05:06
ColonelKernelit works wonderfully05:06
zAo^chicken_man, yes; Gnome is GTK+ based05:06
glickzAo^, how can i install them on my hoary05:06
ColonelKernelI wish I knew what patch ubuntu uses on the kernel to make it ubuntu-compatible05:06
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zAo^glick, get the source pkg from debian and rebuild them05:06
ColonelKernelso I could use vanilla kernels05:06
konutalguien de chile?05:06
zAo^or ask for backport05:06
glickugh!05:06
glicki gotta compile shit05:07
ColonelKernelexcrement05:07
zAo^glick, welcome to linux m805:07
chicken_manzAo^, what repository is it in ?05:07
ColonelKernelor feces.05:07
glickshould i uninstall wxpython2.5.3 first?05:07
ColonelKernelplz05:07
Tomcat_glick: Absolutely.05:07
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r00t_m0j0I know 2.6.10 has  ATI module, but what about newer?05:07
Tomcat_glick: Because the next package update will break your installation.05:07
r00t_m0j0anyone can help me out?05:07
glickdamnit!05:07
Tomcat_glick: Or you could stay with the package and install the self-compilation in /usr/local... that should also work.05:08
glickcan i just download the soruce from wxpython.org?05:08
Goodspeedahhh this is driving me nuts05:09
Goodspeedi have glib05:09
Goodspeedbut it says i dont05:09
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thoreauputicGoodspeed: you probably need the -dev library05:09
thoreauputicGoodspeed: what's with all this compiling?05:09
Goodspeedi just downloaded that in synaptic05:09
Goodspeedhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33040&highlight=gnomad05:09
Tomcat_glick: Probably... but beware that the source might depend on other libs that are newer than you have.05:10
Yagisanglick: what do you need compiled05:10
Goodspeedi need to get my nomad working... it has most of the carrie-overs from my windows machine05:10
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chicken_manwhat repository is GTK+ in ?, and how do i add it to sources.list05:11
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EquisSharing my printer with Windows XP is ungodly slow.05:11
Yagisanglick: I have an i386 and amd64 hoary autobuilder setup. Point me to what you want in breezy, and I can build it in hoary for you.05:11
glickwhere can i get the src package05:12
nmsahello, I have a Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder, can someone point a TV Application taht work with my card? thnx05:12
egil_Is there a better soft than azureus to bit-torrent-download ?05:12
glickYagisan, thanks but id rather learn how to do it myself05:12
Yagisanglick: no probs05:12
chicken_manwhat repository is GTK+ in ?, and how do i add it to sources.list05:13
glickjust direct me where i can find the source?05:13
EquisI've tried everything I find online, but I'm never able to surf to the Ubuntu box on port 63105:13
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wdhchicken_man, please be patient..05:13
EquisWould someone be kind enough to help me troubleshoot?05:13
EquisThis is my first *nix install05:13
wdhchicken_man, give the right person some time to read it..05:13
Yagisanglick: lok up the pbuilder howto on the ubuntu wiki. It's usefull for when you want to backport05:13
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chicken_manvdh, well i don't have all day05:14
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wdhchicken_man, then try google..05:14
EareredEquis, what is the trouble?05:14
wdhchicken_man, asking the same question twice in two minutes isnt going to help you..05:14
Goodspeedchecking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool05:14
EquisEarered:  Printing is s l o w from XP05:14
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thoreauputicchicken_man: this channel consists of volunteers - we aren't being paid to help you so if you find us slow, well...05:15
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wdhchicken_man, actually.. if you would have just waited patiently.. you probably would have your answer by now :P05:15
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chicken_manlol05:15
Goodspeedchecking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool05:15
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Goodspeedwhat do i need to satisfy this?05:15
Goodspeedthe perl module?05:15
glickwhere do i get the necessary soruce for wxpython and wxgtk2.6.105:15
wdhchicken_man, i recommend http://packages.ubuntu.com05:15
glick?05:15
Will_If you want paid help, google answers woul be a good place to start. You can bitch at them if you don't like what you get05:15
Yagisanglick: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/python/wxpython2.6-005:16
EareredEquis, from XP toward a shared printer in linux? If so I won't be of much help (the printer is shared through XP at home)05:16
glickYagisan, i cant just use the binaries from breezy?05:17
Choubakaglick: That would break stuff.05:17
EareredEquis, though this thread might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=c2ec44458f6ed765332a89999ba15231&p=244356#post24435605:17
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Yagisanglick: Usually they have a higher dependency, so you may find you need to upgrade other things05:17
thoreauputicchicken_man: the real problem is that you didn't frame your question well: type apt-cache search gtk+ in a terminal to see why05:17
om_hey guys, just did a fresh install of hoary.. unlike the last time I did it there is no debian menu/submenu on either gnome or kde.. anyone know how to add that?05:18
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glickdamn so i have to upgrade an assload of things just to get the latest python?05:18
Yagisanglick: not if you backport it (well not usually)05:18
glickYagisan, so i just have to backport the packages im interested in not the ones it depends on?05:19
Yagisanglick: that's right.05:19
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Goodspeedi just found all the dependencies by myself!!05:19
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Goodspeedwithout help!!05:19
Goodspeedwoohooooo05:19
chicken_manthoreauputic, ahhhh05:19
Yagisanglick: using pbuilder you can build it against hoarys version of packages.05:19
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GreenRiverHello everyone. I have a small problem about setting up dhcp in Hoary. I ordered the disks from the 'net. The live cd works fine. I have a cable modem attached to a CNet ethernet (Davicom as Linux pronounces). The problem is that installation at first recognizes DHCP and connects to the net. However after the restart and so on I cannot connect. There is a connection as eth0; but when I disable it from the system menu, it doesn't seem affected as it sho05:20
GreenRiveruld be (the lights never change). Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!05:20
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Goodspeedhow do i refresh the menu at the top?05:23
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Goodspeedlike killall05:23
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Goodspeedsomething05:23
Goodspeedright?05:23
thoreauputicGoodspeed: killall gnome-panel05:23
EareredGoodspeed, something like killall gnome-panel IIRC05:24
Goodspeedwoohhooo05:24
Goodspeedwhat's the best mp3 player for linux?05:24
equex_i found an old PCI SCSI adapter and a 800MB SCSI disk.. you guys think this would work nicely as a swap patition for linux ? tested in in win2000, works great05:24
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dabaRhi05:24
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wdhGoodspeed, depends on what you like :)05:27
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Goodspeedi want something like itunes i guess05:27
thoreauputicom_: sudo apt-get install menu menu-xdg   then run  update-menus05:27
EareredGreenRiver, no connection, or just no DNS?05:27
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GreenRiverEarered, no connection.05:28
dabaRhey, does anyone know anything about making a picture out of a video file?05:28
chicken_man;=( i still can't find what one is GTK i just want GTK+ so i can use it in my programs05:28
Goodspeedwhy does my add or remove applications not populate05:28
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Goodspeedit just sits there with that spinning thing05:28
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GreenRiverEarered, as I guess. There is eth0 in ifconfig; but it's something different or obsolete I think.05:28
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dabaRGoodspeed: as a joke, because it is based on windows,.05:29
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thoreauputicchicken_man: a program you are writing? Or compiling from source? Or what?05:29
ma3xdoes anybody understand gimp?05:29
windexyes?05:30
ma3xok, im trying to make my digital signature05:30
chicken_manthoreauputic, A Programming i am writing05:30
ma3xso i scanned my signature and put it in a file05:30
ma3xbut the background is not white, it's gray05:30
ma3xis it possible to make it white?05:30
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windexoi. the problem is that you are scanning your signature. uh, you can try to cut out the writing, but its labor intensive.05:31
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Goodspeedso how would i get rid of a program?05:31
chicken_manprogram*05:31
thoreauputicchicken_man: erm - you will need the development libraries then - I'm puzzled as to how you can write programs without knowing what libraries you need05:31
ma3xbut there is option to colorize the image05:31
EareredGreenRiver, whoa not so fast, try in a terminal ping 216.239.57.9905:32
ma3xi tried and it can make the background green or red like05:32
ma3xbut not white05:32
ma3xnow that's dumb05:32
Tomcat_thoreauputic: I'm sometimes quite puzzled about how many developers send out their source without info on the libs... it's like "Find out yourself" ;)05:32
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Yagisanglick: It seems to build OK with hoary. You shouldn't have any trouble backporting it.05:32
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windexma3x, it would be more effective to use a digitizer or tablet to produce the signature, cutting out the background is difficult.05:33
chicken_manthoreauputic, I just want GTK i have already installed GLib but i'm having problems with Pango05:33
dabaRGoodspeed: like remove a program?05:33
dabaRor remove its icon from your menu?05:33
Goodspeedyeaap05:33
Goodspeedprogram05:33
dabaRsudo aptitude remove x05:33
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dabaRor, System>Admin>Synaptic, find th eprograam in the list, and right click remove05:33
GreenRiverEarered, I tried 195.174.0.1. 195.174.x.x is the default ip adress standard of my isp. An error was returned like "network not recognized" or something like that.05:33
coolblueHELP!!!!!!!05:33
chicken_manthoreauputic, I want GTK ready installed so i don't have to compile any thing to make it work05:34
coolbluehow do i bookmark a set of tabs in firefox?05:34
ma3xits not difficult, you just have tot know how05:34
coolbluehow do i bookmark a set of tabs in firefox? pleeeeeeeeeeeez05:34
chillywillycan't do it05:34
chillywillymake a bunch of bookmarks and move them into a folder05:34
windexma3x, basically, you need to select all the regions of gray, cut them, and then do a pixel by pixel manipulation to get rid of the fuzzy pieces. that's how it works in photoshop, too.05:35
EareredGreenRiver, could you try again? the error might help me to help you :)05:35
coolbluemanually??05:35
coolblueonly way?05:35
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windexma3x, or you can play with your scanner's white balance settings.05:35
chillywillycoolblue: I think that's your only option05:35
GreenRiverEarered, I'll reboot then. I'll be here in ten minutes.05:35
wdhcoolblue, wait.. lemme check that out.. you _can_ bookmark a set of tabs in FF05:35
EareredGreenRiver, wait a second05:36
chillywillycoolblue: I use http://del.icio.us :)05:36
GreenRiverEarered, OK.05:36
windexma3x, you might have more help in a gimp-related channel, though.05:37
glickthe pbuilder wiki page doesnt mention how to build a backport from a source file05:37
EareredGreenRiver, given that I did this error myself, ensure that you have set up the DNS correctly (sometimes you can forget the obvious)05:37
ph8can anyone help me with this problem? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=281842&posted=1#post281842 my ubuntu install thinks i've got an ATI card instead of a nvidia one05:37
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wdhcoolblue, just use 'Bookmark this page' and then tick the box next to 'Bookmark all tabs into a folder'05:38
Yagisanglick: you set up a pbuilder install of what version of ubuntu you want (ie hoary)05:38
EareredGreenRiver, and good luck (I might be gone when you come back)05:38
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glickwith wxpython i cant do apt-get src wxpython05:38
glickbecause ill just get old sources05:38
Yagisanglick: then you download the breezy source package05:38
thoreauputicchicken_man: I highly recommend you read this with attention: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html05:38
glicki downloaded the source as a tgz file05:38
Yagisanglick: and then run pbuilder to build it05:38
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GreenRiverEarered, OK. I'm a bit confused, though. Live cd automatically sets up. Anyway. Thank you very much!05:39
Yagisanglick: I'd grab the breezy source05:39
glicki did download it05:39
glickYagisan, so where do i put it?05:39
Yagisanglick: *.dsc and *.tar.gz ?05:39
glickyup05:39
coolblueThanks wdh:)05:39
EareredGreenRiver, well, it won't guess the DNS that your ISP provides ^_^05:39
chicken_mancan some well tell me how to get GTK+ so i can use it in my C++ and C programs ?05:39
coolblueThanks wdh:)05:39
Yagisanglick: whatever working directory you like05:39
glickok05:40
glickYagisan, i have to untar it i presume?05:40
GreenRiverEarered, wait. The dns numbers were recorded on the non networking setup just like this live cd.05:40
Yagisanglick: no05:40
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Yagisanglick: back in sec. baby trouble05:40
coolbluebackports repo not working:HELP!!05:40
glickheh k05:40
glickthanks05:40
Tomcat_coolblue: Tried another mirror? They are down sometimes...05:40
wdhcoolblue, define 'not working'05:41
coolbluedont undertsand that...05:41
EareredGreenRiver, what do you mean?05:41
wdhcoolblue, 'not working' doesnt exactly help us helping you :)05:41
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wdhcoolblue, what is the error-message?05:42
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wdhcoolblue, and what did you try?05:42
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flohi all05:42
coolblueoh sorry...it says something like this repo does not exist05:42
GreenRiverEarered, I launch system-admin-network-dns. There are some dns numbers. The numbers that I use now are recognized by the setup too.05:42
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wdhcoolblue, where did you add the repo to?? using synaptic?05:42
wdhcoolblue, or straight into /etc/apt/sources.list?05:42
coolblueedtiting sources.list05:43
wdhsure you didnt make a typo?05:43
coolbluenope05:43
coolbluedid copy-paste05:43
thoreauputicchicken_man: try this:   apt-cache search gtk+ | grep lib | grep gtk2 | grep dev  - but I still suggest you read esr's excellent article05:43
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Yagisanglick: back. after setting up pbuilder you just run "pbuilder build *.dsc"05:43
wdhcoolblue, can you paste your sources.list into a pastebin and paste the link here?05:44
coolblueok let me see...05:44
Yagisanglick: It just takes a while to set pbuilder up.05:44
floi know i'm not on the right chan, but could anyone tell me how to add icons on the icewm desktop using rox-filer?05:44
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ADM-UNIMEThi everyone05:45
ADM-UNIMETi have a huge problem with a server05:45
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ADM-UNIMETit's a ibm eseries 300 with SATA RAID 105:45
thoreauputicflo: the rox help tells you how to make a pinboard and you can drag icons onto that05:45
ADM-UNIMETinstall perfect but when it's gone to start the server said that not found operating system05:45
ADM-UNIMETsomething about boot sector05:46
wdhADM-UNIMET, do not use your enter-key that much :P05:46
ADM-UNIMETany help?05:46
GreenRiverEarered, one more thing. There are four lights on my modem. In a live session the PC light flashes all the time. When I disable eth0, it stands still. In non networking setup when I disable eth0 (the one with dns numbers) PC light keeps flashing. I think it's not affected. Something may be wrong with eth0's hardware configuration.05:46
ADM-UNIMETohhhh sorry!05:46
thoreauputicflo: the rox help is actually quite helpful - unlike some help files ;)05:46
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flothoreauputic, yes, i know how to make a pinboard, but where do i drag the icons from, since i don't have any ?05:46
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SubliminalADM-UNIMET: what device is it set to boot from (in the bios)05:46
Chaotic_Shieldmorning all05:46
Chaotic_ShieldAnyone know a good pop/smtp daemon?05:46
thoreauputicflo: you can use any icons in the filer, basically05:46
ADM-UNIMETwell, there is a bios but the ibm fix de raid card with it own software :'(05:47
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Chaotic_Shieldah;05:47
ADM-UNIMETthe last operating system was win 2003 server and boot ok05:47
Chaotic_Shieldmom's yelling05:47
thoreauputicflo: it will ask you which of the many you want05:47
SubliminalADM-UNIMET: it boots of the raid?05:47
ADM-UNIMETyeap :'(05:47
EareredGreenRiver, yep probably05:47
flook; i'll look through the help anyway05:47
thoreauputicflo: lots of icons in places like /usr/share/pixmap05:47
flothoreauputic, thanks :)05:47
Subliminalonly thing i know about raid, is raid 0 isnt bootable and raid 5 is05:48
ph8anyone?05:48
ph8can anyone help me with this problem? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=281842&posted=1#post281842 my ubuntu install thinks i've got an ATI card instead of a nvidia one05:48
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ADM-UNIMETbut i think raid 5 are not allowed on SATA05:48
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thoreauputicflo: no worries - also try " locate icons | less  (I think you'll be surprised how many are at your disposal)05:49
ADM-UNIMETtry the grub-install hd0 but nothing happends :'(05:49
Subliminal:-/ i dont know anything about raid sorry, what i just said might not even be true05:49
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coolbluetry grub-install /dev/hda05:49
J_Phi all05:50
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J_Phi all05:50
J_Ppeople, I have one important question about useradd!!05:50
EareredGreenRiver, I guess that you will have to delve in the ifconf manpages05:50
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zAo^J_P, shoot05:51
GreenRiverEarered, OK. Right away. Thanks a lot.05:51
J_Pgroupadd csp05:51
J_Puseradd andrea -c "Andrea Viana da Silva" -s /bin/false -g csp -d /home/andrea -m05:51
Goodspeedhow do i remove a package not listed in synaptic05:52
chicken_manthoreauputic, Thanks i am downloading it now.05:52
J_Psecond line not wotrk05:52
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J_Pgroupadd add ok csp05:52
J_Pbut user "andrea" not go do group csp in /etc/group, why ?05:52
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zAo^J_P, not go do group: what? :)05:53
MrMowhat tool to use to create VCD's ?05:53
MrMoor DVD's? for the DVD player?05:53
thoreauputicchicken_man: do you see what I meant? I wasn't meaning to be difficult - just trying to show you how to work stuff out yourself :)05:53
J_PzAo^: user "andrea"05:53
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J_PzAo^:  useradd andrea -c "Andrea Viana da Silva" -s /bin/false -g csp -d /home/andrea -m05:53
chicken_manthoreauputic, LOL05:53
Goodspeedthoreauputic how do i uninstall things not listed in synaptic???05:53
om_Goodspeed: sudo apt-get remove packagename05:53
chicken_manGoodspeed, apt-get remove XXX ?05:53
thoreauputicGoodspeed: erm - such as ?05:54
glickheh ok i tink its building05:54
Goodspeedthat stupid gnomad thing05:54
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Goodspeedpiece of shit05:54
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flothoreauputic, hi again, i'm sry to bother you, but is there a way to start rox and the pinboard and panel automatically as i log in to icewm?05:54
Goodspeedi run those things but it doesnt find them05:54
J_PzAo^: greoup csp are yet this : csp:x:1003:05:54
ma3xis there a good CD/DVD burn software for GNOME?05:54
J_PzAo^: whout user "andrea"05:54
zAo^J_P, hm. Trying to find out..05:54
chicken_manI wonder why ubuntu does not come with Fluxbox05:54
bur[n] erma3x: nautilus, graveman, gnomebaker05:54
DeMima3x: K3B05:54
bur[n] erchicken_man: because it focuses on gnome05:55
ma3xDeMi, k3b is for KDE05:55
glickchicken_man, just do apt-get install fluxbox05:55
goldfishapt-get install fluxbox , done.05:55
J_PzAo^: ok. I try in debian and work fine!05:55
thoreauputicflo: I'm sure there is - but I don't know it off the top of my head - sorry: you would put the commands in the icewm startup script though05:55
zAo^J_P, tried useradd without the -g and usermod afterwards?05:55
glickdebian doesnt come with flux either05:55
BTJusticeI am downloading the live version right now.  I specifically want to try and hopefully use Evolution for all my e-mail :).  Is there anything I need to know?  Will folders be created on my Windows XP hard drive to save e-mail to and such?05:55
chicken_manI like Fluxbox it's good for slower computers05:55
J_PzAo^: no! moment, i go try05:55
goldfishfluxbox rocks.05:55
flothoreauputic, I see ... is it in  ~/.IceWm ?05:56
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glicki love python05:56
=== bur[n] er was a long time flux user
glickpython is the shizzy mcnizzy05:56
chicken_manmmmm python :P05:56
J_PzAo^: is impossible withou -g..05:56
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J_PzAo^: i have erro of useradd05:56
zAo^show me :)05:56
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bur[n] erinstead of "useradd" try "adduser"05:56
glicki want to build a finance program using python05:56
thoreauputicflo: no - try looking at /usr/share/xsessions and see if there is a icewm.desktop file - see where the Exec line points05:56
glickgeared at college students05:57
J_PzAo^:  root@neo:~ # useradd andrea -c "Andrea Viana da Silva" -s /bin/false csp -d /home/andrea -m05:57
J_Pusage: useradd  [-u uid [-o] ]  [-g group]  [-G group,...] 05:57
J_P                [-d home]  [-s shell]  [-c comment]  [-m [-k template] ] 05:57
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chicken_manglick: lol05:57
glickcause i keep losing track of my finances and end up getting screwed when at the beginning of the month i spent 400 bucks and have no idea where it went05:57
thoreauputicflo: or better , consult the docs on the icewm home page05:57
Chaotic_Shieldwhat's a good pop3 server?05:57
zAo^J_P, err msg?05:57
flothoreauputic, ok05:57
J_PChaotic_Shield: qpopper is good05:57
chicken_manglick: use C++05:57
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J_PzAo^: yes05:57
glickchicken_man, ugh05:57
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BTJusticeI am downloading the live version right now.  I specifically want to try and hopefully use Evolution for all my e-mail :).  Is there anything I need to know?  Will folders be created on my Windows XP hard drive to save e-mail to and such?05:58
Chaotic_Shieldyay!05:58
flothoreauputic, wait, i found the IceWM.desktop file05:58
Chaotic_Shieldnow just need an smtp server.05:58
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J_PzAo^: that is one problem in ubuntu useradd ?05:58
glickI know C and C++05:58
nubbeIs it possible to integrate Dictionary (2.10.1) in FF?05:58
glickwhy on earth would you want to use either of them if you didnt have to?05:58
chicken_manglick: nice :P i started a year ago05:58
Chaotic_ShieldBTJustice, if your Windows hard drive isn't NTFS then Linux can write to it, else no.05:58
zAo^J_P, not as far as I know of. Can you give me the message>?05:58
thoreauputicflo: the exec line should point at the startup script05:58
flothoreauputic, there's already /usr/bin/icewm-session in exec obviously05:58
BTJusticeIt is NTFS... shit!05:58
J_PzAo^: yes look:05:59
J_Proot@neo:~ # useradd andrea -c "Andrea Viana da Silva" -s /bin/false csp -d /home/andrea -m05:59
J_Pusage: useradd  [-u uid [-o] ]  [-g group]  [-G group,...] 05:59
glickchicken_man, i find learning to play an instrument is much more enjoyable then learning a language05:59
Chaotic_ShieldJ_P, can you recommend a good smtp server?05:59
J_P                [-d home]  [-s shell]  [-c comment]  [-m [-k template] ] 05:59
J_P                [-f inactive]  [-e expire ]  [-p passwd]  name05:59
chicken_manglick: hehehe05:59
J_PzAo^: understan, parameter error05:59
flothoreauputic, so shall i add a comma and add then rox -b 0 and rox -p 0 ?05:59
thoreauputicflo: run "file /usr/bin/icewm-session" to see if it's an editable script05:59
J_PChaotic_Shield: i like very much postfix05:59
thoreauputicflo: NO!05:59
Raskallagh.. the ubuntu repos are soooo slow right now.05:59
zAo^hmmm05:59
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zAo^donno, sorry m805:59
flothoreauputic, ok05:59
Chaotic_Shieldpostfix comes standard with Ubuntu :)05:59
Goodspeedhow do i use a .deb package?05:59
thoreauputicflo: that won't work05:59
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goldfishGoodspeed: dpkg -i moo.deb05:59
J_PzAo^: that sorry iis for me ?05:59
chicken_manHow do i mount my FAT32 partition ?05:59
[Spooky] what the h*ll does this mean !? "sudo: unable to lookup linux via gethostbyname()"05:59
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glicki gotta get ready, in one hour i gotta tear this lady that works at a real estate office across from me a new anal cavity06:00
zAo^yeah :$06:00
flothoreauputic, it's not an editable script :(06:00
J_Pplease, anyone know how I add one user for any group in ubuntu using command line useradd ou another tool ?06:00
Goodspeeddo i have to tar it?06:00
goldfish!mountwindows06:00
ubotu[mountwindows]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions06:00
Goodspeedits a .tar.gz06:00
ADM-UNIMETJP did you try webmin?06:00
thoreauputicflo: the best place to look is the icewm docs - I'm sure there are howtos etc linked from the icewm home page06:00
goldfishchicken_man: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions06:01
J_PADM-UNIMET: yes, but postfixadmin is better06:01
goldfishGoodspeed: tar xvzf moo.tar.gz06:01
flothoreauputic, ok thx :)06:01
Goodspeedand then go into the directory and do the dpkg thing?06:01
thoreauputicflo: I haven't used icewm much - I use fluxbox here06:01
BTJusticeI have a spare hard drive I could hook up to my Windows XP machine.  If I format it to some other file system, what should I do it with and what file system should it be in order for Ubuntu Live to save things to it?06:01
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flothoreauputic, ok :)06:01
goldfishGoodspeed: yes.06:01
glickcreatign the most complex data structures in python is so simple a monkey could do it06:01
goldfishGoodspeed: you will need to use sudo with the dpkg command.06:01
flothoreauputic, i wouldn't mind using fluxbox06:01
J_Ppeople, i have one basic question... how I add one user for any group in ubuntu using command line useradd ou another tool ?06:02
Chaotic_ShieldBTJustice, Ext3. I don't think Ubuntu Live can format drives though. If you have a spare drive, why not install Ubuntu on it and dual-boot?06:02
windex!tell windex about mp306:02
thoreauputicflo: I suggest you choose one WM and learn it06:02
Chaotic_Shieldhmm...06:02
glicki gotta finish my mp3 sorter program that i started writting06:02
nubbeI'm looking for a Firefox extension that can lookup dict.org, anyone knows?06:02
BTJusticeCan I install Ubuntu from the Live CD or shoudl I cancel the downlaod and get the full version?06:02
flothoreauputic, well, i don't really have time since i'm setting up a friend's comp06:02
goldfishu need the instasll cd06:02
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Chaotic_ShieldBTJustice, you'll need the full version.06:02
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J_PChaotic_Shield: you know how add one user for any group ?06:02
thoreauputicJ_P: you might prefer to use the adduser command - it's easier06:02
goldfish*install06:02
BTJusticeAlright, thanks.06:02
Chaotic_ShieldI have both, quite handy to have both.06:02
Chaotic_ShieldJ_P, I don't.06:03
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windex!tell windex about mp306:03
windexmaybe this time i can manage to not quit.06:03
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Chaotic_Shieldwhat's the command to mount your cdrom drive? Ubuntu isn't doing it for me.06:03
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BTJusticeUbuntu does come with Evolution e-mail program right?06:03
Chaotic_Shieldyes06:03
ChadzaYes.06:03
J_Pthoreauputic: yeh, but i dont know how do this using "adduser" for add in group "admin"  for example.. Can you write one example for me ?06:03
BTJusticeSweet in the panties!06:03
Chaotic_ShieldUbuntu install installs everything that comes with the Ubuntu Live CD.06:03
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Chaotic_ShieldUbuntu Live == Ubuntu standard install06:04
thoreauputicChaotic_Shield: usually just  " mount /media/cdrom " should do it06:04
Chaotic_Shieldthanks.06:04
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Goodspeedgoldfish i just dpkg it06:04
Goodspeednow what?06:04
thoreauputicChaotic_Shield: assuming your /etc/fstab points at /media/cdrom06:04
Goodspeedis it installed?06:04
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Chaotic_Shieldthoreauputic, doesn't work, I get mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist.06:04
BTJusticeOW!  One last thing.  I have a D-Link DWL-G520 wireless card.  Will Ubuntu find it alright and use it?06:04
Chaotic_ShieldBTJustice, possibly.06:05
MrMoBTJustice, 520+?06:05
thoreauputicJ_P:  adduser <user's name> admin06:05
MrMoor simple 520?06:05
Chaotic_ShieldBut if it doesn't, go get ndiswrapper and follow the instructions on its website.06:05
J_Pthoreauputic: ok, i go test.06:05
BTJusticeG52006:05
thoreauputicJ_P: with sudo, of course06:05
BTJusticeThat all I know.06:05
MrMoBTJustice, forget it. the G520 is the one with the ACX111 chip right?06:05
BTJusticeIt's the first version06:05
BTJusticeAtheros06:05
thoreauputicChaotic_Shield: ls -l /dev/cdrom06:05
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thoreauputicChaotic_Shield: see where that points06:06
Chaotic_ShieldNo such file or directory.06:06
J_Pthoreauputic: root@neo:~ # adduser teste csp06:06
J_Padduser: The user `teste' does not exist.06:06
MrMoBTJustice, Atheros? even better. IIRC, Madwifi works with Atheros out of the box.06:06
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goldfishGoodspeed: yes. installed.06:06
J_Pthoreauputic: root@neo:~ # adduser teste admin06:06
J_Padduser: The user `teste' does not exist.06:06
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thoreauputicJ_P: *cough* well use a user that *does* exist06:06
ma3xis there any CD/DVD burning tool for GNOME?06:06
Chaotic_Shieldyes06:06
thoreauputicJ_P: it isn't magic you know06:06
MrMoma3x, yes.06:07
mjrma3x, nautilus will burn basic data discs06:07
ma3xmjr, how do I start it?06:07
Chaotic_Shieldfscking hell.06:07
MrMoma3x, the natulis will burn just about everthing for you06:07
Chaotic_ShieldWHY WON'T YOU MOUNT CDROM DRIVE? [/caps] 06:07
MrMoma3x, if that's not enough, use gnomebacker06:07
mjrma3x, it's the file manager06:07
Raskallare there any mirrors for the ubuntu-backports repos?06:07
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[Spooky] whats the default su password ?06:07
BTJusticeWaht is Madwifi???06:07
MrMoma3x, <crlt>-<L> and enter burn:///06:07
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Chaotic_Shield[Spooky] , none.06:07
MrMoBTJustice, Madwifi is the driver for wireless cards06:07
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MrMoBTJustice, i.e. cards with the Atheros chip06:07
Chaotic_ShieldI like ndiswrapper.06:08
BTJusticeIt comes with Ubuntu?06:08
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ma3xcan nautilius burn iso image?06:08
[Spooky] Chaotic_Shield: ok so how do i set a su password ?06:08
Chaotic_ShieldAlthough it increases start times by a little while.06:08
thoreauputicChaotic_Shield: if /dev/cdrom doesn't exist, you have a strange problem - look at /etc/fstab to see where the system thinks it is06:08
MrMoChadza, Ndiswrapper is just *PLAIN WRONG[tm] *06:08
Chaotic_Shieldyes ma3x06:08
ma3xChaotic_Shield, how?06:08
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MrMoma3x, right click on iso image, select 'burn'06:08
mjrndiswrapper isn't there to be liked, it's there to be lamentably used when absolutely necessary ;I06:08
BTJusticeMadwifi comes with Ubuntu?06:08
MrMoBTJustice, as far as I know: yes.06:08
bonewbie here.. can anyone help configure printers06:08
Chaotic_Shield[Spooky] , open a terminal, then type sudo passwd.06:08
MrMomjr, right.06:08
zAo^what was it that you needed to do when you got: could not open default font 'fixed'06:09
BTJusticeCOOL!  Thanks.06:09
Chaotic_Shieldthinks it's in /media/cdrom006:09
Chaotic_Shieldwhat a gay pos.06:09
mjrBTJustice, it's included in the restricted-modules packages06:09
MrMobo, the gnome-cups integrations is already beautiful what do you need help with?06:09
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mjr(which are installed by default)06:09
Chaotic_Shieldbrb06:09
thoreauputicChaotic_Shield: you can symlink that to /media/cdrom if you wish06:09
ma3xcan nautilius erase DVD/CDRW disc?06:09
Goodspeedhow do i untar a bz206:09
snowblink[Spooky] , you should be sudoing stuff.06:09
MrMobo, but lets start with what flavor of ubuntu you got? warty, hoary, breezy?06:09
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boi need to set a second pc (windows) to print through me06:10
windexneat. watch the music player not suck with mp3 support! :D06:10
MrMoma3x, yep it should be able to do that too06:10
mjrma3x, I think it offers to erase data when trying to burn on one06:10
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MrMoma3x, but I feel like you might like 'gnomebacker'06:10
bosorry hoary06:10
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MrMoma3x, you can get that from synaptic iirc.06:10
MrMoma3x, http://www.ubuntuguide.org is your friend.06:10
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cefxMorning.  I have two problems.  I still can't find my USB Hard Drive anywhere as a device to mount it.  IS there USB mass storage support in the Ubuntu amd64 kernel?06:10
[Spooky] snowblink: yeah but have some trouble with hostname :/06:10
windex!guide06:10
ubotuwindex: I don't know06:10
skalpelhow can i change the font that ubuntu uses during bootup and the one used for console screens?06:10
snowblink[Spooky] , describe problem06:10
windex!ubuntuguide06:11
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.06:11
windex:)06:11
MrMobo, hmmm System->Administraion->Printers06:11
thoreauputicGoodspeed:  tar xjvf <file.tar.bz2>06:11
boyes06:11
mjrcefx, there is, though I've ran into some generic usb2 recognition and use problems06:11
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[Spooky] snowblink: getting this when doing sudo "sudo: unable to lookup linux via gethostbyname()"06:11
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snowblink[Spooky] , sudo vi /etc/hosts06:11
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MrMobo, did you read ubuntuguide.org?06:11
derBuddisthi @ all06:12
snowblink[Spooky] , make sure your hostname is the same as in /etc/hostname06:12
ma3xMrMo, I am opening it now06:12
MrMobo, I'm having a hard time remembering how to setup the samba server ... :/06:12
derBuddistcan somebody help me???????06:12
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ma3xbut GNOMEbaker is not included in synaptic?06:12
MrModerBuddist, ganz schn aggressiv fr so einen nick!06:12
boMrMo yes couldn't quite find anything useful06:12
derBuddisttschuldigung06:12
skalpelhow do i change my gnome splach screen?06:12
derBuddistspricht hier jemand deutsch ??06:12
MrMoma3x, weird I got it from synaptic.06:12
zAo^Error: your X configuration has been altered.06:12
zAo^  >> Who can help me?06:12
MrModerBuddist, immernoch zu viele fragezeichen!06:13
thoreauputicma3x: gnomebaker is in the universe repo06:13
derBuddistsorry06:13
windexskalpel, System -> Prefrences -> Login Screen Setup06:13
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thoreauputic!repos06:13
ubotusomebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:13
ma3xMrMo, maybe your sources.list is different than mine06:13
windexdoh!06:13
boget so far as to trying to configure samba (smb.conf)06:13
windexskalpel, not prefrences, 'administration.06:13
ma3xthoreauputic, but the universe repo is NOT supported06:13
derBuddistspricht hier jemand deutsch?06:13
cefxmjr, where will I find the device name of my hard drive? :/06:13
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Belutznerolinux is much way better than gnomebaker :D06:13
thoreauputicma3x: it is comunity supported ( by the MOTU team)06:14
vontrappyesterday, in an upgrade, firefox 1.0.6 installed, now, middlemouse.contentLoadURL does not work06:14
MrMoma3x, ohhh... universie is NOT supported? so what? most people use even *different* sources than the usual ubuntu ones...06:14
vontrappi have it set to true06:14
[Spooky] snowblink: done do i need to reboot ?06:14
MrMoBelutz, nerolinux is for turds06:14
snowblink[Spooky] , probably best to06:14
vontrappi read in the forums a discussion about disabling this by default, did something break in the process?06:14
thoreauputicma3x: universe is fine - just add it06:14
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vontrappi'm certainly fine with it disabled by default, but i want it to work when i enable it06:14
derBuddisthow can I copy a file from cd-rom to the direction "home" ?06:15
sexcopter8000mhi, what programme can i use to string together some jpegs into a video/movie clip?06:15
J_Pthoreauputic: hello, have equal problem as in useradd. I do " adduser --ingroup admin test". But in /et/group user "test"  not are in "admin:x:109:". Understand ?06:15
ma3xshould I uncomment these two? # deb http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe06:15
ma3x# deb-src http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe06:15
vontrappMrMo: you mean like me using Debian Unstable sources with ubuntu?06:15
MrModerBuddist, open CD, *rightclick* *select* *copy* .... open *home* *rightclick* *past*06:15
thoreauputicderBuddist: cp /media/cdrom/path/to/file /home/yourusername06:15
derBuddisti have only the bracket!06:16
MrMovontrapp, well yea for example something like that... or adding in someone *private* ubuntu sources ;)06:16
ma3xand then apt-get update; apt-get upgrade?06:16
thoreauputicJ_P: *sigh* are you trying to give a user sudo privileges? If so read  man visudo06:16
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J_Pthoreauputic: not not... is any group...06:17
cefxYo.06:17
cefxdpkg -l w32codecs doesn't find w32codecs and I can't play this .avi file.06:17
J_Pthoreauputic: add for example for video roup not work too..06:17
thoreauputicJ_P: adduser is trivially simple to use: sudo adduser <nameof user> <groupyou want user in>06:17
J_Pthoreauputic: please, test you that..  and you will be see user not are add in /etc/group..06:17
MrMoma3x, update should be sufficient06:17
ma3xMrMo, ok06:18
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thoreauputicJ_P: I don't need to test it: I know how to use the command : you  need to read the man page it seems06:18
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sexcopter8000manyone? a programme for making video clips?06:18
thoreauputicJ_P: as I said , it is trivially easy to use06:19
J_P thoreauputic ahh is diferent to debian...06:19
J_Pthoreauputic:  is need first crewate user..06:19
thoreauputicJ_P: no it isn't06:19
skalpelis there any way to add a splash image to my bootup, like the linux penguin in slackware, for ubuntu?06:19
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J_Pand after add it to group thoreauputic06:19
cefxHmmmm.06:19
J_Pthoreauputic: right ?06:19
cefxAnyone know what codecs I need to play most movies?06:19
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ma3xwhat's the easiest way to backup my ubuntu?06:19
derBuddisthow can I see the files on my cdrom?06:19
cefxI can't find w32codecs.06:19
ma3xcefx, from marillat site06:19
vontrappderBuddist: mount /cdrom06:19
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derBuddistthx06:20
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snowblinkJ_P, man usermod06:20
vontrappit's supposed to be automatic, but i've seen a few cases where it needs to be mounted manually06:20
punkassanyone know why networking would just stop working..no updates, just rebooted and poof no wireless or ethernet, DCHP just times out06:20
thoreauputicma3x: no - marillat is out of sync with hoary now: use hoary-extras06:20
J_Psnowblink: ok06:20
cefxAnyone know where I will see my USB HDD ?  I can't grep dmesg for /dev/sda...there's nothing about it in there.06:21
cefxnor /var/log/messages06:21
wdhcefx, /var/log/kern.log maybe?06:22
ma3xhow do I backup ubuntu on DVD?06:22
punkassi know the router works fine as there is a knoppix and XP machine connected to it fine06:22
bur[n] ercefx: no desktpo icon?06:22
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skalpelis there any way to add a splash image to my bootup, like the linux penguin in slackware, for ubuntu?06:22
J_Psnowblink: but is possible for example i add one user and include it ine users group for example using adduser/useradd ?06:22
bur[n] erskalpel: look into "bootsplash"06:22
ma3xskalpel, just turn on the pc and act like a penguin!06:22
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bur[n] erskalpel: not for the faint of heart06:22
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[Spooky] hm still having trouble with hostname :/06:22
bur[n] erskalpel: or wait for Breezy ;)  i hear it should be there06:23
skalpeli am not faint of heart but i am new to linux, what do you think?06:23
derBuddisthow can I extracte the files from a *.tgz-paket ?06:23
Chaotic_Shieldbah.06:23
wdhderBuddist, tar xvzf *.tgz06:23
derBuddistthx06:23
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Chaotic_Shieldcdrom drive not mounting.06:23
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Chaotic_ShieldThat's stupid.06:23
snowblink[Spooky] , your hostname in /etc/hostname is the same as the one on your localhost line?06:23
ma3xHowto Backup Ubuntu?06:24
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[Spooky] snowblink: edited the hostname file and hosts and used the hostname to set it and its still complaining..06:24
[Spooky] snowblink: how do i see the localhost ?06:24
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drcodedd2Hi all06:24
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snowblinkJ_P, yes you can. man adduser06:24
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drcodedd2any one mybe know good realtime sync folder software that also work in windows?06:25
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snowblink[Spooky] ,  your /etc/hosts file should have 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost yourhostname06:25
derBuddisthi06:25
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Chaotic_ShieldBAH.06:26
thoreauputicJ_P: the changes you make will only show up on re-logging in06:26
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Chaotic_ShieldWhy won't you mount you STUPID CDROM DRIVE.06:26
catchHi all, I am currently running hoary, but need the newer version of subversion from breezy, can anyone point me in the right direction on how to do this?06:26
Chaotic_Shieldthis is pissing me off.06:26
[Spooky] snowblink: done now reboot and see brb06:26
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J_Psnowblink: i try using this : root@neo:~ # adduser --ingroup users test3. If i do : root@neo:~ # id test3 show : "uid=1005(test3) gid=100(users) groups=100(users)". But look this :06:26
J_Proot@neo:~ # grep -i users /etc/group06:26
J_Pusers:x:100:06:26
J_Pthoreauputic: and snowblink understand now ?06:27
cefxubuntu sucks.06:27
cefxI can't watch my movies06:27
cefxI can't mount my hard drive06:27
cefxwhee06:27
Chaotic_ShieldO_O06:27
Chaotic_Shieldtbh, user error.06:27
Chaotic_ShieldWhat FS is your hard drive?06:27
cefxNTFS06:27
cefxIt's not user error.06:27
cefxIt's not /dev/sda1.06:27
Chaotic_ShieldYes it is.06:27
derBuddistHow can I create a formatters ?06:27
cefxIt's not in dmesg.06:28
cefxIt's not in /var/log/messages.06:28
Chaotic_Shieldfdisk -l06:28
Chaotic_Shieldsee what comes up.06:28
cefxit's not listed.06:28
cefxit's not mounted.06:28
Goodspeedhow do i rename something in terminal06:28
Goodspeedsudo06:28
Chaotic_ShieldIt's not hooked up properly.06:28
bigbootayit's called a meatware issue.06:28
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cefxyes, it is06:28
skalpelhow do i change my splash screen in gnome?06:28
J_Psnowblink: see ?06:28
Chaotic_ShieldEven unmounted partitions will show up.06:28
thoreauputicGoodspeed: mv oldname newname06:28
cefxI see.06:28
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cefxWell, let me reboot and use the FireWire cable or a different usb port.06:29
cefxbrb06:29
Chaotic_Shieldanyways.06:29
catchHi all, I am currently running hoary, but need the newer version of subversion from breezy, can anyone point me in the right direction on how to do this?06:29
Chaotic_ShieldWhy won't you mount stupid cdrom drive?06:29
J_Pthoreauputic: see that sentence above ?06:29
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strykewulfhey guys im having a problem here trying to dl and install thunderbird06:30
strykewulf sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird06:30
strykewulfReading package lists... Done06:30
strykewulfBuilding dependency tree... Done06:30
strykewulfYou might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:06:30
strykewulfThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:30
strykewulf  mozilla-firefox-gnome-support: Depends: firefox-gnome-support but it is not going to be installed06:30
strykewulfE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).06:30
[Spooky] snowblink: worked like a charm, thanks for the help :)06:30
catchstrykewulf there is a reason why pastebin exists06:30
Chaotic_Shieldstrykewulf, have you tried running apt-get -f install?06:30
strykewulfi tried06:30
skalpelcan i change my console screen font?06:30
strykewulflemme try again06:30
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Chaotic_Shieldand honestly, paste in the pastebin.06:30
snowblink[Spooky] , np06:31
bluefoxicyok06:31
Chaotic_Shieldhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl <--- paste there.06:31
dimitrisskalpel. edit your console profile06:31
snowblinkJ_P, hmmmm06:31
bluefoxicyhow long before the firefox vulns are fixed?06:31
ThewarmachineSCO Group Inc. OpenServer 6: see how sco rips off the plastik theme!!06:31
Thewarmachinehttp://www.eweek.com/article2/0,,1841361,00.asp06:31
skalpeldimitris: how do i do that?06:31
J_Psnowblink: yes :-) now you see... I am happy !!06:31
Chaotic_ShieldBAH.06:32
strykewulfi tired the apt-get -f installand it gave me the same error06:32
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strykewulfi also tried getting winrar and it gave me the same thing06:32
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Chaotic_Shieldstrykewulf, try using Synpatic to install your packages from now on.06:32
strykewulfhow do i do that06:32
Chaotic_Shieldand winrar is a windows program, hence WINrar06:32
strykewulfok, rar archiver06:32
J_Psnowblink: but if after i do this : "adduser test3 users"  user test3 is add in /etc/group.06:32
snowblinkJ_P, can you try against a new group?06:32
Chaotic_Shieldsudo /usr/sbin/synaptic06:32
snowblinkJ_P, ah06:33
Chaotic_ShieldI think that's the binary anyways.06:33
J_Psnowblink: yes... and have euqal problem06:33
J_Psnowblink: i try add another diferente group... too06:33
snowblinkJ_P, does your test3 already exist?06:33
J_Pand really not work...06:33
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J_Psnowblink: for "adduser test3 users"  yes06:33
Chaotic_ShieldGone06:33
J_Psnowblink: for me do "adduser test3 users"  i need test3 calready created06:33
J_Psnowblink: can you test in your machine ?06:34
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thoreauputicJ_P: as I told you about half an hour ago, logout and login to see your changes take effect06:34
J_Psnowblink: you will be see in /etc/group that user you add not are in /etc/group, but one id "user" show correct group.06:34
J_Pthoreauputic: yes, i try.. not work..06:34
J_Pthoreauputic: i reboot too06:34
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J_Pthoreauputic: i try in 4 direrentes ubuntu machine06:35
thoreauputicJ_P: then your synatax is wrong06:35
J_Pthoreauputic: please, then tell me correct syntax.06:35
Lizardkinghello everyone, i have a problem with apt, every time i try to remove something i get a msg similar to this:  Stopping ipppd... ./MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "isdn"06:35
snowblinkJ_P, thoreauputic , have to run. Sorry can't help more.06:35
thoreauputicJ_P: adduser <username> <group>   it really is that simple06:35
skalpelhow do i change my console screen font?06:35
Lizardkingand then the lines:06:36
Lizardkingdpkg: error processing ipppd (--remove):06:36
Lizardking subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 106:36
LizardkingErrors were encountered while processing:06:36
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thoreauputicJ_P: e.g. adduser peter users06:36
Lizardkingis there a way to correct that06:36
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J_Pthoreauputic: but <username> need are already created on system ?06:36
thoreauputicJ_P: of course!06:36
skalpelcan someone tell me how to change my console font?06:36
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J_Pthoreauputic: i need without peter created..06:36
zAo^which groups do I need to start gdm, xfce4 and beep-media-player?06:36
bur[n] eranyone using Upower?  and maybe have a screenshot?06:37
bur[n] erzAo^: audio06:37
cefxHi.  So I see that the drive is seen in the messages.06:37
J_Pthoreauputic: how in "useradd andrea -c "Andrea Viana da Silva" -s /bin/false (ou bash) -g csp -G desenvolvimento -d /home/andrea -m"06:37
thoreauputicJ_P: man useradd06:37
zAo^bur[n] er, the new gnome-power-mgt?06:37
zAo^thanks bur[n] er06:37
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J_Pthoreauputic: that aboce comamdn work in debian, in ubuntu not06:37
cefxAug  2 13:31:52 localhost kernel: Attached scsi disk sda at scsi5, channel 0, id 0, lun 006:37
cefxwhee06:37
cefx!!!06:37
ubotufrom memory, ! is what u add before a sentence to talk to me06:37
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bur[n] erzAo^:  nope... upower is like bootsplash06:38
cefxum wtf?06:38
globulehi !06:38
bur[n] erjust read about it on the wiki06:38
cefxmount point does not exist?06:38
zAo^bur[n] er, srry.06:38
J_Pthoreauputic: or simply : "adduser --ingroup users test" not work. user test are in group users(looking with "id test"). bnut not are in /etc/group. Understand.06:38
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bur[n] erzAo^:  if you're interested... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UPower :)06:39
raDeonwhere can i get cool ubuntu wallpaper06:40
cefxFUCK06:40
PlanarPlatypusraDeon, http://www.gnome-look.org06:40
raDeondanke06:41
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cefxPlanarPlatypus, you have any idea why i can't see my external usb hard drive?06:41
cefxI just switched usb ports.06:41
Kev0ranybody here who knows how to tweak automatic USB-stick mounting with Hotplug?06:41
zAo^J_P, I know what you did wrong06:41
zAo^J_P, the username must be at the END of the command06:42
PlanarPlatypuscefx, yoou mean it was in one port and you could see it and then you put it in another port and it didn't come back?06:42
Kev0rSeveas: Do you have a clue on my problem? been stuggling with it for so long... :(06:42
cefxno06:42
cefxhaven't been able to see it06:42
cefxAug  2 13:31:14 localhost kernel: sda : READ CAPACITY failed.06:42
cefxAug  2 13:31:14 localhost kernel: sda : status=0, message=00, host=0, driver=0406:42
cefxAug  2 13:31:14 localhost kernel: sda : sense not available.06:42
J_PzAo^: ok, i go try06:43
J_PzAo^: hey, but are END of command : "adduser --ingroup users test"06:43
raDeonwhat is an image view that can open up multiple images at once?06:43
J_PzAo^: see ?06:43
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strykewulfwhat does the bar next to where u type stuff in in xchat mean?06:44
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zAo^J_P, usermod -g audio -d /home/rotsblok -m rotsblok worked here06:44
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skalpelwhere do i go to edit my grub config?06:44
strykewulfwhat is grub?06:44
skalpela bootloader06:44
skalpelused by ubuntu06:44
strykewulfoh06:44
Spudchati think its used durin boot up06:45
skalpelit is.06:45
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J_PzAo^: but you already have "rotsblok" created right ?06:45
skalpeli am trying to change my console font06:45
mjrskalpel, /boot/grub/menu.lst06:45
Spudchatnice im new to linux but tryin to learn :)06:45
skalpelcan anyone help me?06:45
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bur[n] erskalpel: check the wiki :P06:45
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PlanarPlatypuscefx, that looks like your drive is being odd.  I assume you have tried the usual unplug it and then plug it back in06:45
bur[n] erskalpel: it's there06:45
strykewulfim new to linux06:45
neclutzhi guys06:45
skalpelspudchat: this is the best place to be then06:45
_linuxAS_hi06:45
Spudchat:)06:45
skalpelbur[n] er: ok06:45
neclutzjust testing my bitchx06:45
newubuntuhey i have ubuntu 5.04 how can i voice chat wit it with yahoo06:45
skalpel!wiki06:45
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cefxYeah.  Will it detect hotplugging USB?06:45
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cefxI hope I didn't fry it :(((06:45
PlanarPlatypuscefx, it should06:45
cefxok, i'll try -another- port ;D06:46
skalpelbur[n] er: wiki.ubuntuguide.com right?06:46
strykewulfhey guys can you try to go to the website im hosting. http://69.175.153.27/06:46
PlanarPlatypusheh06:46
zAo^J_P, yes06:46
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bur[n] erskalpel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootText06:46
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J_PzAo^: question is : how create and add that user for "users" group for example in unic command,... ?06:46
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boguhwhy is there no fvwm-themes package?06:46
bur[n] erskalpel: wiki is wiki.ubuntu.com06:46
zAo^J_P, put the username at the end at the useradd command06:47
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rob_pstrykewulf:  No!  Nothing comes up!06:47
newubuntuI HAVE UBUNTU 5.04 AND I HAVE YAHOO MESSENGER HOW CAN I GET VOICE CHAT OUT OF IT06:47
skalpelbur[n] er: if i change my boot font will it continue to use that fontsize in the console? because i have already changed my boot font06:47
gigaclonnewubuntu, you can start by stop shouting06:47
zAo^what group do I need to run the xterm?06:47
J_PzAo^: look, username are in the END. "adduser --ingroup users test"06:47
newubuntui wasnt shouting06:47
newubuntui was making sure people can see it06:48
gigaclonCAPS = shouting06:48
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newubuntucaps is not shouting06:48
newubuntuyelling is shouting06:48
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strykewulfnice one newubuntu06:48
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strykewulftouche06:48
Spudchatmaybe im a bit deaf but im not blind06:48
X-Rulezhello06:48
J_PzAo^: in debian work this "adduser --ingroup users test" or "useradd test-g users". But not in ubuntu. I ubuntu in /etc/passwd show correct group number, but not show user "test" in /etc/group understand ?06:48
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gigaclonwell since the net is a visual not a auditory medium06:49
ColonelKernelhow can I get mozilla to reload a page every 5 seconds?06:49
strykewulfdebian shebian06:49
ColonelKernelw/o doing it manually06:49
newubuntuI HAVE UBUNTU 5.04 AND I HAVE YAHOO MESSENGER HOW CAN I GET VOICE CHAT OUT OF IT06:49
X-Rulezi want to play mp3 on my pc but  it doesn't works can someone help me ????06:49
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gigacloncaps is the equivalent of shouthing06:49
strykewulfapt-get install totem, x-rulez?06:49
tikkaX-Rulez, beep media player should work i think06:49
ColonelKernelnewubuntu, turn off your capslock - and you cant.06:49
newubuntumy gosh06:49
tikkatotum comes with ubuntu out of the box and it sucks06:49
ColonelKernelcurrently theres no yahoo voice chat for linux - or yahoo video06:49
bur[n] erX-Rulez: they are all wrong, you need some special packages to get an mp3 decoder06:49
bur[n] erX-Rulez: go to the ubuntuguide.com and read about it06:50
bur[n] ertotem rules :)06:50
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newubuntuhey gig you wanna see what shouting is06:50
newubuntulol06:50
X-Rulezan where can i get this ?06:50
tikkaburner lol with the right decoders sure ;p06:50
J_Pplease, if anyone know how "adduser --ingroup users test" or "useradd test -g users" add user "test" in /etc/group as in debian tell me. Thenk you!06:50
raDeonnewubuntu, you shape up06:50
raDeonyou are a guest in this channel06:50
tikkabut im a lamer and mine sucks :D06:50
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raDeonwith people trying to help you06:50
X-Ruleznoo with totem it doesn't work06:50
djpX-Rulez: under totem-gstreamer (default player) you need the gstreamer0.8-mad codec06:50
newubuntulast time i checked i was in shape06:50
bur[n] erX-Rulez: get the gstreamer-mad package :P06:50
raDeonshape up06:50
newubuntubut this ubuntu wit installing software can be a pain in the ass06:50
X-Rulezwhere can i get this ?06:50
bur[n] erX-Rulez: it's in universe06:50
bur[n] erX-Rulez: and go to the ubuntuguide.com :P06:51
raDeonnewubuntu, only if you're an idiot06:51
bur[n] ersame questions everyday ;)06:51
bur[n] erwww.ubuntuguide.org <--real link... not .com06:51
X-Rulezok06:51
bur[n] ermy bad06:51
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skalpelbur[n] er: if i change my boot font will it continue to use that fontsize in the console? because i have already changed my boot font06:51
newubuntuno only people like you that is an ignorant fuck06:52
skalpelnewubuntu: go, and never blight my channel again06:52
bur[n] erX-Rulez: better link still:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:52
newubuntuur channel you dont own this06:52
bur[n] erskalpel: no idea, i haven't done it06:52
newubuntulol06:52
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newubuntumy gosh06:52
cefxIt found it using firewire!!06:52
cefxyayyyy!06:52
newubuntuthe only thing you own is a box of cracks06:52
newubuntucrackers06:52
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cefxWhere is w32codecs at?06:53
icewtbackports06:53
strykewulfcefx check www.ubuntuguide.org06:53
cefxi did dpkg -l and it didnt get it06:53
raDeoni think they should only send the ubuntu cds to people with IQ above 6006:53
cefxoh, thanks06:53
newubuntukids these days06:53
Spudchatlol06:53
newubuntuthey never learn06:53
strykewulfapt-get install w32codecs06:53
depravecefx06:53
D1its strange06:53
newubuntuso sad06:53
strykewulfapt-get install w32codecs06:53
Chaotic_ShieldraDeon, I agree. You should have to pass an IQ test.06:53
newubuntuso weird06:53
nickrudnewubuntu, we try to maintain this attitude here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct06:54
cefxdeprave06:54
D1the official backports isn't as updated as the mirrors are.06:54
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D1but good thing they're official now.06:54
newubuntuso strange06:54
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X-Rulezthis is to much to read for me an i didn't understand everything i'm from germany ^^06:54
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tikkaX-Rulez,  try windows.06:54
skalpelwhat command would i use if i wante dto get some info on an ip?06:54
Chaotic_ShieldX-Rulez, you tried joining #ubuntu-de?06:54
newubuntuya and it says about ignorant people like radeon06:54
cefxCouldn't find packages w32codecs...going to the guide..brb06:54
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newubuntudid you read about that06:54
Chaotic_ShieldX-Rulez, type /join #ubuntu-de for help in German06:55
sagittahi, can anyone tell me if and how I can get num lock on by default (in hoary)?06:55
flowhi06:55
Chaotic_Shieldskalpel, whois <ip>06:55
X-Rulezok06:55
X-Rulezcu06:55
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Spudchatdid anyone install cedega like the wiki says and install battelfield2 sucessfully?06:55
tikkaSorry to be a pain but I am looking for information to understand .dsc packages06:55
tikkaany suggestions ?06:55
Chaotic_Shieldtikka, google perchance?06:55
tikkaSpudchat, i know a guy who might have06:55
skalpelchaotic_shield: thank you06:55
flowim having a problem with evince.... it cant view certain pdf files06:55
flooIs there any way i can tell VLV to look in /usr/local/lib to find libdvdcss?06:55
arpanhi, i was trying to install Firefox 1.0.6 on Ubuntu (using Synaptic), but it failed, and now firefox aint starting up!06:55
flowim using ver 0.3206:55
tikkaChaotic_Shield, i was hoping for keywords you shit bag06:55
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arpanearlier atleast 1.0.2 was working06:55
arpanwhat shud I do to get it going again?06:56
Spudchathmm i get to the install screen then it freezes06:56
Chaotic_ShieldHey, watch your mouth. I'm just making a suggestion.06:56
wrykynI just installed eric3 with apt-get.  When I try to use it I get the following errors:Traceback (most recent call last):06:56
wrykyn  File "/usr/lib/site-python/eric3/eric3.py", line 147, in ?06:56
wrykyn    main()06:56
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icewtarpan, are you using backports?06:56
D1how is gstreamer compared to xine? last I tried it couldn't play proprietary formats.06:56
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arpanu mean the apt repo?06:56
tikkaChaotic_Shield,  I have already tried and failed.. hence bugging you guys :D06:56
wrykynAny ideas how I can fix this?06:57
arpanu mean the apt repo? icewt06:57
PlanarPlatypusD1, it kinda works, some files give you sound but no video though06:57
arpanyeah I am using them06:57
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cefxSo btw06:57
cefxthe guide SUCKS. :)06:57
Chaotic_Shieldwell, that's fine then, but shit bag isn't06:57
D1oh, hmm.06:57
cefxIt has nothing about installing codecs.06:57
D1oh well, as long as xine is around, all works well for me.06:57
djpD1: it can playback most formats. as far as i know all formats i have tried to use with it work06:57
Spudchatit does you must be in the wrong spot06:57
D1good thing its progressing.06:57
djpPlanarPlatypus: which ones?06:57
cefxdjp: What do I need to play most formats?06:57
Spudchati found divx for linux on there06:58
cefxI'm in the amd64 section...06:58
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nJessis there a linux equivilant to quickbooks?06:58
cefxis there no avi playback in amd64? :(06:58
D1cefx,06:58
D1this might help06:58
D1http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs06:58
Spudchatdivx06:58
PlanarPlatypusdjp, all the ones which did it to me are .avi but I think it is something special about he encoding which does it06:58
Chaotic_Shieldtikka, I have nfi where to find info about .dsc06:58
D1if you're using gstreamer I think.06:58
nickrudnJess, I use gnucash for that06:58
djpcefx: you need to install gstreamer0.8-plugins (meta package) and gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg06:58
Chaotic_Shieldbut I want to freakin MOUNT MY CDROM DRIVE.06:58
nJessnickrud, is the interface similar?06:58
Spudchattotem plays avis just fine on my friends 64bit sys06:58
Chaotic_Shieldthat's it.06:59
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Chaotic_Shieldrestart2win.06:59
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flooc'mon guys, i need help getting vlc to find libdvdcss in usr/local/lib06:59
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djpPlanarPlatypus: all avi's i have thrown at totem-gstreamer work. like you say though, could be something to do with the avi's encoding...06:59
cefxdjpg: I don't think they have an ffmpeg for amd64 ;p06:59
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djpcefx: oh, i am not sure about that. maybe someone else can advise you07:00
mjrcefx, we do07:00
_icebreaker_how can i change the standard os in grub?07:00
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cefxmjr: oh? why can't i find the ffmpeg or w32codecs packages?07:00
bur[n] ercefx: universe07:01
cefx?07:01
remmuswhenever i started, i got pop up warning "Missing command to run" how to fix it?07:01
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izmaelis_icebreaker_, you mean like which os is loading by default after some time or what?07:02
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bur[n] eroh, nm, 64, i have no idea07:02
remmuswould anybody please help me07:02
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remmuswhenever i started, i got pop up warning "Missing command to run" how to fix it?07:02
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nubbecefx, I thought w32codecs was in backports07:03
Chaotic_Shieldsigh07:03
Chaotic_Shieldit mounts when I restart.07:03
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Chaotic_ShieldIt no like bay devices.07:03
D1nubbe, it is.07:03
D1you're not seeing it?07:03
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cefxnubbe: not for amd64.07:04
ZornstIs there anyone around who could help me with a software RAID/LVM problem?07:04
D1oh.07:04
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nubbecefx, oki, my bad07:04
PlanarPlatypusZornst, depends what it is07:04
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remmuswhenever i started, i got pop up warning "Missing command to run"07:04
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remmushow to fix this07:04
cefxfack07:04
Aveis there a way to get xorg 7.0rc0 into hoary?07:05
nubbecefx Have u tried marillat? No idea if he got stuff that works tho07:05
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Zornstwell, PlanarPlatypus, when I boot I get a message that one of my raid arrays isn't clean, and that its starting background reconstruction07:05
ZornstI get a few other messages, and then it says its stopping with one task remaining07:05
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Chaotic_ShieldXMMS plays mp3's, yes?07:05
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_icebreaker__izmaelis, yes exactly07:05
zeverChaotic_Shield, yes07:06
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izmaelis_icebreaker__, so you must edit your grub.conf07:06
ompaul!restricted formats07:06
ubotumethinks restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'07:06
Chaotic_Shieldgrub.conf2win.07:06
AveZornst: what does it say for: cat /proc/mdstat07:06
ompaulChaotic_Shield, that last url from ubotu was for you :)07:06
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_icebreaker__izmaelis, where is it located /etc/ ?07:06
AveZornst: or mdadm array query commands07:07
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boneed help on printing .. windows box through my linux box07:07
ZornstI can't can't cat anything.  I don't get a shell, or even close to a getting a shell07:07
Aveah hmm, well cant you boot in degraded mode07:07
raDeonbo, good luck with all that07:07
skalpelhello, i have made a mistake in my /lib/lsb/init-functions file and now i need to correct it, but ubuntu will only boot into a read-only filesystem, how do i fix this?07:07
Zornstwhat would I do to boot in degraded mode?07:08
AveZornst: are you having raid1?07:08
izmaelis_icebreaker__, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst07:08
skalpelhow do i mount my ubuntu install from a ubuntu live cd?07:09
Zornstyes, raid 107:09
AveZornst: boot from rescue media and remove faulty drive from array(s) with mdadm07:09
Aveor take out the drive entirely, physically07:09
Avebut it has to be the drive thats marked dirty07:09
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Zornstok, let me try booting from a CD07:09
skalpelhow do i mount my ubuntu install from a ubuntu live cd?07:10
cefxlet's see how fast ubuntu is at loading stuff :P07:11
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_icebreaker__izmaelis, can'T fins how to setup the default07:11
cefxmusic files07:11
cefxoh wtf they cant handle .mp3 files?07:11
rob_pskalpel:  What were you doing messing with /lib/lsb/init-functions?  ...just curious is all!07:11
MartinMy gam_server process from gamin is always around 90% CPU. Anybody has an idea?07:12
skalpelrob_p: i was changing my but font and i made a typo07:12
skalpelboot font07:12
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rob_pskalpel:  Can't you change it back?07:12
dylan_Does Totem play QuickTime files?07:12
izmaelis_icebreaker__, look for a line: default             007:12
skalpelrob_p: only after i mount the install partition from thsi live cd, which i do not know how to do07:12
skalpel=)07:12
piksiok so it seems i'm one of those plenty people who have s-ata drive with ultra ata (ide?) emulation that doesn't let the installation of ubuntu continue (no cd detected) .....??07:13
skalpelrob_p: ubuntu is booting into a read-only filesystem and i cannot edit the file07:13
mjrdylan_, depends on what codec is used in them07:13
dylan_mjr:  what codec should i use?07:13
piksiis this an addressed bug in the current ubuntu or something stranger?07:13
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rob_pskalpel:  Oh... read only... I see!  Can you boot to single user mode?07:13
mjrdylan_, something that's supported?07:13
skalpel_what is that about?07:14
mjrmpeg-4 is all the rage today, and even though patented, is available from universe07:14
dylan_mjr:  sure, whatever....what can i use to play quicktime files in linux?  (not from the console)07:14
mjr(I don't think quicktime can do theora)07:14
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mjrdylan_, I refer to my first answer07:14
dylan_mjr:  what codec can i get?07:14
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Zornstcrud, after loading the logo screen the CD isn't doing anything more07:15
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mjrdylan_, mpeg-4, and maybe some earlier sorenson codecs, I think07:15
dylan_thanks07:15
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skalpel_can someone tell me how to mount my ubuntu partition from a live cd?07:15
_icebreaker__izmaelis, ok i changed that. what command must i run to change thinks?07:15
AveZornst: :-\ well I guess your only option then is to remove the faulty drive frmo the bus and try booting07:15
izmaelisyou must save edited file and reboot pc to see changes07:16
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FinalFanhi, does any one know if there's custom taxes in Portugal?07:16
Zornstactually, I got the CD to work, the prompt wasn't being displayed, but I was able to type rescue and hit enter07:17
_icebreaker__izmaelis, ok. just thougt it is like lilo...07:17
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ghost^|patrickhi07:17
ghost^|patricki am unable to boot to shell or gui07:17
jadedstarFinalFan: I'm sure there are, however I have no clue what they might be.07:17
rob_pskalpel_:  If you can boot to single user mode, you should be able to fix the corrupt config file...07:17
ghost^|patrickat bootup time suddenly a password is needed07:17
FinalFanok,tnx07:18
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jadedstarFinalFan: No problem07:18
Martinmy gam_server problem has been happening on two Dell laptop I have. I found other peoples having the same problem with google but no solutions.07:18
skalpel_rob_p: how do i do that?07:18
rob_pskalpel_:  are you using grub or lilo?07:18
ghost^|patrickthe problem i got is that neither my user ids nor any of my passwords are accepted07:18
ghost^|patrickeven in the save mode i cant access anything07:18
skalpel_rob_p: i get an error about the filesystem not being there, something serious looking and then it boots me into a read only root login07:18
ghost^|patrickwhat should i do now?07:18
skalpel_rob_p: grub07:18
ghost^|patricktty107:19
ghost^|patrickis said there07:19
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FinalFanWhat are the system requirements for Ubuntu? Is it heavy?07:19
skalpel_no.07:19
mjrFinalFan, not particularly07:19
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piksiok so it seems nobody is familiar with the intel 82801FBE and these fucked up s-ata module problems?07:20
skalpel_rob_p: should i try it in recovery mode?07:20
piksi:-(07:20
Spudchatid like to install vlc player what package should i get?07:20
mjrfor the default gnome you do want some memory, preferrable at least 3 figures worth07:20
ghost^|patrickwhat can I do to reawake my ubuntu?07:20
rob_pskalpel_:  at the grub prompt, select the image to boot but hit, "e" instead and then append a comma, a space, and then the word, "single"07:20
zever!find vlc07:20
skalpel_ok07:20
skalpel_i will07:20
ghost^|patrickthe recovery mode fails at the same point as the standard kernel boot07:20
MartinI have gamin0.0.26-0ubuntu3 installed. I eared that the 0.1 version could help but it is not compatible wity hoary.07:21
thoreauputic!info vlc07:21
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB07:21
rob_pskalpel_:  then enter... I think that will get you single user mode... hopefully :)07:21
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Spudchatnice07:21
Spudchatthanks guys07:21
andrilhello all*07:21
flogistonWhen i try to wine any program from my windows drive I en up with this error:Please use the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG\Software\Fonts\LogPixels07:21
flogistonto set the screen resolution and remove the "Resolution" entry in the config file07:21
flogiston. What does it mean?07:21
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ghost^|patrickwhat should i do07:22
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ghost^|patrickwhich opportuinity have i now, since the linux cant boot up07:22
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ghost^|patricki think the cause of my problem is that i installed the ati driver from synaptic with reconfiguration of my x07:23
levanderI've got a bunch of java development libraries I download to develop software against.  I've got to get them out of my home directory for size of backup purposes.  Where on the Linux file system are you supposed to put stuff like this?07:23
Spudchatfound and installed :)07:23
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ghost^|patrick3hours it worked good, then i tried  to view the ogl screeensaver07:23
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ghost^|patricka that moment my system frooze07:23
Martinlevander: I do use /opt07:23
ghost^|patrickein neither could reboot the x server nor make anything else07:23
haffeHi, does anybody have a clue as to when glitz will be incorporated in ubuntu?07:23
ghost^|patrickthis morning i tried to boot up then but nothing happened07:23
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levanderYeah, Martin, that's not a bad idea.  Might do that, any other suggestions?07:24
ghost^|patricki only got the dump password request that asks me to log in as root07:24
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speelany one try kde 3.4.2 yet?07:24
Nomad_1What's the best way to remove a linux installation and grub? (I know reformatting the harddrive that linux is installed on will do the first part, but what about grub which for me is on the MBR of another HD?)07:24
levanderMartin, yeah, think I'm just gonna use /opt, that's better than the things I was thinking.  Thanks.07:25
julietta^^^hi there, which command would hash a string say: sha1sum << echo mypassword07:25
julietta^^^thanks a lot07:25
Martinlevander: pleasure. I hope I'll find something about my gamin problem ;)07:25
ghost^|patricknobody there who has an idea what i should try next`?07:26
AveNomad_1: install another bootloader OR zero the first 512 bytes of the hd, note that this will leave you with unbootable syste07:26
mjrNomad_1, if it's not the boot HD, the MBR part of grub doesn't really do any harm; if it is, then just install a new boot sector for whatever you want booting there07:26
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thoreauputicghost^|patrick: just an idea - if you have a live CD boot it up, open the root terminal, mount the partitions of your Ubuntu, then chroot to the mount point and issue "telinit 1" to get single user mode: from there you may be able to boot by hitting ctrl-d07:27
HaroldMorning/Afternoon/Night/Trauma everyone.07:27
yccheokhi, i had seen some desktop themese which is transparent. may i noe how i can do so? can anyone point me out the resource?07:28
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thoreauputicghost^|patrick: if this works I think you would at least have a root prompt in runlevel 1 to try to rescue from07:28
ghost^|patrickthat crtl-d appears in the recovery mode07:28
thoreauputicghost^|patrick: correct07:28
ghost^|patrickbut after that i get the same password request as in the normal boot up07:29
thoreauputicghost^|patrick: do you first get a # prompt  ?07:29
thoreauputicghost^|patrick: if so, you have root already07:29
ghost^|patrickno07:29
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ghost^|patrickfirst it asks me to login07:30
ghost^|patrickbut all my passes and id as a failure07:30
ghost^|patrickthen it says, procede with crtl-d07:30
ghost^|patrickthen i have the same trouble as in the default kernel07:30
cefxHey.  What's the command to burn an image to a CD in terminal?07:30
cefxI forget.07:30
cefxIt has something to do with mkisofs :/07:31
Nomad_1Ave mjr: Thanks guys. I'll have to read about this stuff when I get off work.07:31
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thoreauputicghost^|patrick: if the kernel won't boot, you are more or less screwed07:31
skalpelrob_p: hi, i booted into single-user mode but was unable to edit the file i wanted to edit or anything, wat should i do?07:31
rob_pskalpel:  was the filesystem mounted read only?07:31
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BxN`hello07:31
ompaulskalpel, what file did you want to edit?07:32
ghost^|patrickits after the hardware detection07:32
BxN`im about to try ubuntu and i wondered does it have the usual stuff like xMMS and firefox, an irc client etc etc?07:32
skalpelompaul: /lib/lsb/init-functions07:32
ghost^|patrickthe last thing i can read, taht the mice has been recognized07:32
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BxN`also can i access my windows partition from ubuntu07:32
sieroirc.tin.it07:32
skalpelrob_p: i do not think so, i just did not have access to a command to edit the file07:32
thoreauputicghost^|patrick: worst case scenario: use the live CD to copy all your important data across the network or to a USB drive/stick etc07:32
rob_pskalpel:  you should have vi07:32
ompaulskalpel, to mount everything mount -a will mount all default items07:33
djpcefx: cdrecord -v dev=??? speed=? driveropts=burnfree -dao -eject foobar.iso07:33
skalpelrob_p: show me the command i should use once the filesystem is mounted, so i will know for sure, ok?07:33
ghost^|patrickthoreauputic: dont say i should format the drive07:33
strykewulfis there a way to let people connect to my website althouh i dont have a static ip07:33
ghost^|patrick:/07:33
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ghost^|patrickthat would be the 5th in 2 weeks07:33
ghost^|patrickcrap07:33
PlanarPlatypusstrykewulf, dyndns.org ?07:33
ompaulskalpel, nano is an editor that you could use07:33
strykewulfty planar07:33
skalpeli tried using nano but i did not get anything, do i have to use mount -a first?07:33
thoreauputicghost^|patrick: do you have more than one bootable kernel in /boot ?07:34
ompaulskalpel, you have to07:34
ghost^|patrickthoreauputic: ya, but nothin g worked07:34
skalpelompaul: in single user mode, correct?07:34
rob_pskalpel:  vi /lib/lsb/init-functions07:34
ghost^|patrick386 and k707:34
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ghost^|patricknobody boots07:34
skalpelrob_p: alright, thank you07:34
ghost^|patricknone07:34
thoreauputicghost^|patrick: you tried them from the grub menu?07:34
skalpeli will try that now.07:34
skalpel=)07:34
om_skalpel: you may not have permission to modify that file07:34
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om_try sudo if it doesn't work07:34
ghost^|patrickthoreauputic: thats the only bootmanager i have07:34
thoreauputicghost^|patrick: right07:35
ompaulskalpel, yes, and a question occurs to me why edit that file?07:35
BxN`can i play mp3s in ubuntu if im running off a livecd07:35
BxN`or will i need to load it on since mp3 playback requires a plugin07:35
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ghost^|patrickwell.. the reason for this crap is that the system suddenly frooze as i tried to watch OGL screensaver07:35
ghost^|patrickwhat went wrong07:35
ghost^|patrickany ideas?07:35
xliuis it possible to mount an .img file?07:35
thoreauputicghost^|patrick: it might be possible to install a new kernel image and boot that, but I'm not sure how you would go about it07:36
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ghost^|patricki have absolutly no skills with this :(07:36
thoreauputicghost^|patrick: seems strange that a driver install would trash everything like this - are you sure your hardware is OK?07:36
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ghost^|patricki am in windows...07:37
cefxdjp: siiick, you rock :) I was just hoping for a manpage!07:37
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ghost^|patricki just played an hour a stupid shooter to calm down07:37
cefxdoes cdrecord have a manpage? *checks*07:37
ghost^|patrickeverything worx fine07:37
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levanderAnybdy in here has gotten udftools to work?07:37
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graabeinanyone got a link to dpkg howto? i want to learn how to install/remove deb-packages07:37
ghost^|patrickso its an linux issue :(07:37
cefxyay it does07:37
cefxgraabein: man dpkg ?07:37
graabeincefx, yeah that would work, hehe07:38
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levandergraabein: hold on, there was a post to ubuntuforums about this, lemme find it07:38
xliuhow to open an image file in ubuntu?07:38
ompaulgraabein, use aptitude or apt-get dpkg is being deprecated (it will go out of fashion shortly - :))07:38
ompaulxliu, gimp file.name07:38
ompaulxliu, there are many many ways07:38
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graabeini think i installed a couple of deb-packages myself and they dont work so i want to get rid of them07:39
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thoreauputicghost^|patrick: you said you had reformatted several times - this is not usually necessary with linux either; and normally ubuntu is rock solid (my current uptime is 40 days)07:39
xliuthanks ompaul07:39
ompaulgraabein,  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1998/05/msg02249.html07:39
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salilcan anyone help me with bluetooth adapter problem..??07:40
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arpanicewt, it worked man07:40
xliuno, i mean an ISO,IMG file, not a picuture. How to open it?07:40
ghost^|patrickthoreauputic: the first times i did because i coulnd do anything07:40
arpanafter restarting the machine, firefox worked07:40
ghost^|patrickthe last time i was aple to get around my problems and boot without reinstall07:41
ghost^|patrickbut now07:41
ghost^|patricknow its different07:41
arpani have d'loaded a Gnome Desktop theme, how do I install it?07:41
ghost^|patrickcoze i cant do anything07:41
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salilarpan: hya mula.. goto install theme..07:41
skalpelrob_p: no luck, i cannot use the vi command07:41
skalpelrob_p: after doing what you told me to do i get a grub edit> prompt07:41
arpanOK salil07:41
xliuhow to open an ISO/IMG file in ubuntu?07:42
salilcan anyone help me with a bluetooth adapter problem..?? anyone know how to do that..?07:42
skalpeland something like root (hda3,0) already entered07:42
rob_pxliu:  create a mount point, then mount the image to it using, "mount -t iso9660 image /created/mount/point/ -o loop"07:42
salilarpan: where're you from, dude..??07:42
skalpelrob_p: i have a list of commands i can use but vi is not one of them07:42
skalpelnor is mount07:42
levandergraabein: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12040&highlight=dpkg-buildpackage - this page doesn't emphasize to change your sources.list to get the sources from another repository.  Doing that will make things a lot easier.07:42
thoreauputicghost^|patrick: I suggest you try sending to the ubuntu-users mailing list a detailed descripton of your problem with whatever info you can gather - it is a high traffic list with a lot of clueful people: someone might have some ideas07:42
skalpelrob_p: are you sure there is no way to edit this file from my live cd?07:42
rob_pskalpel:  at the grub edit prompt, you need to append a comma, a space, and then the word, "single"07:42
skalpelrob_p: such as mounting my ubuntu install from here?07:42
graabeinlevander, i know about the repos, these are debs i didnt find there07:42
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arpani am from Pondicherry, India07:43
arpanu salil ?07:43
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skalpelrob_p: ah, after root (hda3,0) ?07:43
salilarpan: i'm from NP07:43
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skalpelrob_p: so from the grub loader i push the e key and then enter?07:43
salilarpan: what 'bout you..?07:43
xliurob_p, thanks07:44
hid3Hello everyone.. Is there any utility which monitors how much each (network) device uses interrupt?07:44
levandergraabein: 'dpkg --remove' or 'dpkg --purge' to get rid of the configuration files too.07:44
rob_pskalpel:  e key then append the single switch and then enter.  Then b for boot, I think... been a long time since I've used grub...07:44
graabeinlevander, ok, how about searching for a particular pacakge?07:44
graabeinthat i think i installed, at least i tried to07:44
levandergraabein: 'apt-cache search'07:44
rob_pxliu:  no prob!  good luck :)07:45
skalpelrob_p: im sorry, single switch?07:45
salilanyone who knows how to use bluetooth adapter..??07:45
skalpelrob_p: at the grub menu i pressed e and then nothing happened, so i continued to to type what you told me, comma space single07:45
skalpeland after i finished typing that i was takin to that grub prompt with root (hda1,0) already entered in for me07:45
levandergraabein: 'apt-cache show' or more succinctly 'dpkg -l' to find out if a specific package is installed07:45
rob_pskalpel:  You need to do whatever it takes to get to single user mode (not sure off the top of my head since I don't use grub).  Once you do that, then proceed to fix the file.07:46
graabeinlevander, thanks, ill try07:46
skalpelrob_p: well the problem is that evidently i do not know how to get to single user mode. i thought that is what i had arrived at at the grub edit> prompt07:46
skalpelbut i think i might have it now07:46
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skalpeldo i hit enter after using 'e' at the boot menu?07:47
graabeinDesired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold07:47
graabein| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed07:47
graabein|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)07:47
graabein||/ Name           Version        Description07:47
graabein+++-==============-==============-============================================07:47
graabeinpn  alexandria     <none>         (no description available)07:47
skalpelthat is what i am not sure about, hitting e by itself does nothing07:47
rob_pskalpel:  at the edit prompt, you append the switch, "single" and it should allow you to boot the image in single user mode...07:47
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skalpelrob_p: what is the switch?07:47
Razor-Xdoes X.org have dga?07:47
rob_pskalpel:  single07:47
skalpelok07:47
graabeinups, sorry if i was spamming there... but what does that mean... pn?07:47
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skalpel_rob_p: correct?07:48
Seveasgraabein, that means you once had it installed and now purged07:48
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salilcan anyone tell me what command to use to look for connected usb devices..??07:49
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graabeinSeveas, ok... cause i had the old version from universe installed and i tried to install the new one from a deb07:49
salilcan anyone tell me what command to use to look for connected usb devices..??07:49
sdschulzeCan one switch from Debian to Ubuntu without a hard reinstallation?07:49
cefxok so07:49
graabeinbut i got a lot of ruby errors. i think i need to update ruby first... so i guess i have to wait till its in the repos cause i really dont know what im doing :)07:50
Razor-Xsdschulze: no07:50
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sdschulze:(07:50
Seveassdschulze, depends...07:50
salilcan anyone tell me what command to use to look for connected usb devices..??07:50
sdschulzeWhat's the problem?07:50
Seveasit's not impossible, it might just be hard :)07:50
cefxcdrecord -v dev=/dev/cdrom speed=20x driveropts=burnfree -dao -eject ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso ?07:50
Seveassarge -> hoary is not the easiest route07:50
Seveassarge -> breezy or woody -> hoary are easier07:51
Razor-Xsdschulze: you can use your config files, obviously, but the majority of the things can't migrate07:51
sdschulzeWell, I'm flexible. :)07:51
Razor-Xwell, most of the config files, rather07:51
cefxSeveas: Hi!  Nice to meet you. :) I'm a new user...and I think I've converted from Slackware -> Ubuntu...07:51
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sdschulzeRazor-X: The package names are different?07:51
cefxIs the syntax and everything correct in that line I juyst pasted?07:51
Razor-Xsdschulze: yeah07:52
cefxfor burning an iso to a C07:52
cefxD07:52
SeveasRazor-X, most things can migrate...07:52
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Razor-XSeveas: well, he'll still need to reinstall, no?07:52
Razor-Xyou can't incorporate debian packages in Ubuntu without a lot of strife07:52
SeveasRazor-X, but an upgrade from debian to ubuntu will eliminate the debian packages :)07:52
salilcan anyone tell me what command to use to look for connected usb devices..??07:53
Razor-XSeveas: hmmmm, really?07:53
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Seveassalil, lsusb07:53
sdschulzeWell, I've actually two points:07:53
graabeinhow do i find (and remove) something i installed by a run-file?07:53
salilSeveas: thanks07:53
Seveasgraabein, not07:53
sdschulze0: My CD-ROM drive seems bit broken, I'd like to avoid booting from CD.07:54
salilSeveas: is there any other command..?? this one isn't showing anything..07:54
sdschulze1: I'd like to reuse my configuration files.07:54
Razor-Xo-O07:54
Razor-XMPlayer's docs are like pages long07:54
sdschulzeSo can I get a bootable Ubuntu system from Debian?07:54
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Seveassdschulze, yes07:55
fredforfaenis there someone in here having troubles with locales....i get a error where it tells me that locales is broken....when i try to reinstall locales it just tells me that its broken...whet to do?07:55
fredforfaenwhat*07:55
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graabeingive me some peace!07:55
salilSeveas: i have a usb bluetooth adapter installed..and i need to find its address..07:55
graabeinfredforfaen, :)07:55
salilcan you tell me how to do that..??07:55
fredforfaenhehe graabein07:56
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Razor-Xsalil: lspci -v07:56
fredforfaenanyone?07:56
Seveassalil, if lsusb doesn't show it there are no drivers installed07:56
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Seveassalil, check dmesg for details07:56
syndwhats the key combo to scroll up in irssi?07:57
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Seveasfredforfaen, paste the complete error on the pastebin please07:57
Seveassynd, [PgUp] 07:57
ToTaL_LiNuX_NeWbwill beagle be included by default in breezy?07:57
fredforfaenpastebin?07:57
Seveas!pastebin07:57
ubotuI heard pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood07:57
fredforfaenok thanx07:57
syndSeveas: ah, makes sense. thanks07:57
fredforfaenill do so07:57
ZincXSeveas, i have a domain... can i use it as a vhost when i connect from my normal connection ?07:57
SeveasZincX, you mean on IRC?07:57
ZincXSeveas, yes07:58
sdschulzeOK, thanks everyone07:58
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cefxI'm too poor to own domains.07:58
SeveasZincX, no07:58
cefxWhat?07:58
cefxYes he can.07:58
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ZincXhm.. u mean i cant have my domain as my vhost ?07:58
Seveasor you must convince your provider to set the RDNS for your IP to your domain :)07:58
cefxSeveas, if he uses nameservers he can set his hostname to whatever he wants.07:58
SeveasZincX, indeed :)07:58
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ZincXreverse dns aen ?07:58
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cefxNo matter who his ISP is07:58
fredforfaenhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/327731 there it is ...the locales thingy07:58
Seveascefx, IRC servers cannot know that domain07:58
arpanI have got a cool splash screen for Gnome, how do i set it?07:58
Seveasthey know only the IP07:58
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salilSeveas: thanks.. dmesg worked..07:58
Seveasand the reverse hostname07:59
cefxSeveas, they don't have to.  That's what nameservers are for.07:59
ChrischiO`GERhi again07:59
ZincXhmm..07:59
cefxIf he knows someone with a nameserver they can add the records07:59
graabeinhttp://packages.ubuntu.com - search for beagle in breezy07:59
cefxand the domain name will resolve07:59
cefxbelieve me, I know07:59
Seveascefx, that's not what we are talking about07:59
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cefxoh07:59
fredforfaenanyone?07:59
cefxhmm..07:59
Seveasi know better :)07:59
cefxmy bad, sorry :)07:59
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Seveasfredforfaen, hang on07:59
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fredforfaenok07:59
cefxcuz see, Sev... /dns icmps.org and if you DNS the IP it will resolve to a res.rr.com ISP hostname08:00
ChrischiO`GERehm.. installed ubuntu some minutes ago.. install didnt ask for root passw so: what is my root PW?08:00
cefx:\08:00
bur[n] ercan anyone tell me how to get /dev and /proc to work when using a livecd in a chroot environment so I can apt-get upgrade -s08:00
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ZincXSeveas, i dont mind aslong as it appears as a vhost.. even if its using a name server o anythin08:00
Seveasfredforfaen, try: LC_ALL=C sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales08:00
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cefxChrischiO`GER, type sudo passwd root08:00
cefxand set it yourself :)08:00
topyliRazor-X: i tried it earlier today. cool and useless :)08:00
fredforfaenok08:00
cefxI found that out yesterday08:00
Seveascefx, do NOT advise that08:00
cefxVery well, Seveas :)08:00
Razor-Xtopyli: haha ;)08:00
cefxChrischiO`GER, there's a command that allows you to open root shells without using the root account.08:00
Razor-Xas it is, I use Eterm, so maybe i'll stick in the E environment08:00
lassewhitch mediaplayer shout i choos? mplayer eller xine-ui... nogen der kan hjlpe ?08:01
Razor-XI want to see how KDE apps look in Enlightenment08:01
cefxThe root account is viewed as a security risk/flaw in Ubuntu08:01
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Seveascefx, the UBuntu way is to use sudo, so explaining sudo is preferred over explaing sudo passwd root :)08:01
fredforfaenhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/327734 i get this Seveas08:01
cefxAh!08:01
Razor-Xbecause I really think the viewer apps (KPDF and KDVI) of KDE are of top notch quality08:01
bur[n] eramarok is best of breed too :)08:01
Seveasfredforfaen, try: LC_ALL=C sudo dpkg --configure locales08:01
cefxK08:01
fredforfaenk08:01
Razor-XKDE has some pretty nice apps ;)08:01
cefxBRB, reformatting to x86 from x86_64.08:02
ToTaL_LiNuX_NeWbwill beagle be in breezy?08:02
bur[n] erkopete leaves something to be desired08:02
cefxI like XFCE.08:02
SeveasToTaL_LiNuX_NeWb, yes08:02
bur[n] eras does konqueror08:02
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Razor-Xyeah, Konquerer is real nice08:02
cefxkonq is bad ;(08:02
bur[n] erXFCE will rule once Thunar is a reality08:02
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arpancan anyone tel me how I can change me splash screen?08:02
chrissturmhow can i make a screenshot of one window?08:02
Razor-Xyou know what totally sucks?08:02
skel_arpan,08:02
Seveasarpan: To change the Ubuntu splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image08:02
skel_there a howto on the site08:02
fredforfaeni get this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/327735 Seveas08:02
bur[n] erkonq's fish:// access is nice, but konq kinda blows imo08:02
Razor-Xmy aptitude doesen't come with super cow powers -_-08:02
Razor-Xbur[n] er: there are quite a few dedicated Konquerer fans08:03
fredforfaengotta go to tha toilet...brb08:03
Seveasfredforfaen, try: LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get install locales08:03
arpanSeveas, can't I do it in the GUI mode?08:03
Razor-Xi'm not dedicated, but I like the browser a lot08:03
fredforfaenok08:03
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Seveasarpan, gconf-editor is the only way08:03
bur[n] erthe browser doesn't compare to firefox08:03
graabeinToTaL_LiNuX_NeWb, it looks like it. go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and search for beagle in breezy08:03
arpanthx Seveas08:04
bur[n] erok, back to chroot, anyone familiar with it?08:04
fredforfaeni get this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/327737 Seveas08:04
fredforfaenbrb08:04
ToTaL_LiNuX_NeWbthanks guys08:04
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Razor-Xbur[n] er: I prefer Opera, meself08:04
Seveasfredforfaen, wtf have you done to mess up your system so bad? mixing debian and ubuntu?!?08:04
ChrischiO`GERcfex - but why am i allowed to change rootpwd if im not logged in as root???08:05
arpanSeveas, by splash screen I mean the screen that displays when I log in08:05
ChrischiO`GERcefx - but why am i allowed to change rootpwd if im not logged in as root???08:05
Razor-XChrischiO`GER: because you own the box08:05
Seveasarpan, yes you change that the way I explained :)08:05
ChrischiO`GERoO08:05
PhuzionHey, where can I get drivers for my sound card?08:05
Razor-Xand therefore, you can be root08:05
Razor-Xduh? ;)08:05
graabeinfredforfaen, do you know how to get norwegian spelling and date-format in every app?08:05
ChrischiO`GERh?08:05
SeveasChrischiO`GER, sudo makes you root08:05
PhuzionI have some POS integrated card.08:05
Razor-Xat least, i'm _assuming_ you own the box ;)08:06
fredforfaenSeveas....it was after i installed some package manually....totally my fault...i know08:06
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Seveasfredforfaen, uninstall that package08:06
fredforfaengraabein thats one of the problems now08:06
Seveasand install ubuntu-desktop08:06
Seveasif that fails, you did something really bad08:06
ChrischiO`GERseveas - but what was the root pwd befor?08:06
fredforfaenhmm08:06
bur[n] eranyone ever have to use a livecd to upgrade packages?08:06
Daedalushow can I add a man file to my program or whatsoever08:07
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fredforfaenwell the system seems fine if it wherent for that locales pkg08:07
ubuntu__rob_p: still there? i was unable to boot into single user mode08:07
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SeveasChrischiO`GER, nothing08:07
Seveasit was not set08:08
skalpelis there a way to edit files on my ubuntu install partition from a live cd?08:08
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stjepanheya08:08
ChrischiO`GERbut if i wanted to login as su and just pressed Enter at password it didnt work..08:08
stjepanwhat client for newsgroups do you use?08:08
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ChrischiO`GER-if +when  -.-'08:08
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skalpelhow come the ubuntu does not automatically detect monitor refresh rates and put them in xorg.conf?08:09
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skalpelis there a way to edit files on my ubuntu install partition from a live cd?08:09
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mjrskalpel, the X server is supposed to detect that on its own08:09
bur[n] erskalpel: mount it, edit them08:09
skalpelbur[n] er: can you tell me how to mont that partition?08:10
skalpeli do noty know how08:10
skalpelmjr: it did not do that, i am stuck in 640x480 mode08:10
skalpelmjr: why do you think it would fail to do that? there are no entries in xorg.conf for refresh rates.08:10
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bur[n] erboot live cd, open term, sudo su, mount /dev/hdxx, cd /mnt/hdxx08:10
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fredforfaendamn i cant fix it....is there anything i can do besides reinstall Seveas?08:11
skalpelhow do i find out what dev the partition is using? i am not sure08:11
mmoscosaDoes anyone knows how to install Nvu? or does anyone knows a similar program or better?!08:11
bur[n] erskalpel: just try them till it works :)08:11
thoreauputic!nvu08:11
ubotumethinks nvu is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallNVUHTMLEditor/ http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.""08:11
bur[n] erboot live cd, open term, sudo su, mount /dev/hdxx, cd /mnt/hdxx, ls08:11
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mjrskalpel, I guess you should add them explicitly then, dunno why it wouldn't (that is, if your monitor, video card and driver support it)08:12
Seveasfredforfaen, dunno, I don't know how seriously messed up your system is.08:12
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skalpelmjr: they do support it. i already fixed this on my ubuntu install i was just curious about the live cd, it sucks to have that happen08:12
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onuri would like to install Eclipse and tomcat 5 to my ubuntu installation. But i doubt that there s a related package in repositories. What should i do ?08:12
mmoscosaubotu thankyou08:12
topylimmoscosa: get it from nvu.com, extract the tarball in /opt, and you're ready to go08:12
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skalpelbur[n] er: thank you.08:12
ubotubitte, mmoscosa08:12
fredforfaenSeveas hmm , it seems pretty messed up08:12
fredforfaendamn08:12
Tomcat_onur: Check ubuntuforums.org, there are HowTos.08:13
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bur[n] erwell, the livecd isn't perfect08:13
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sexcopter8000mcan anyone suggest a programme for stringing together some jpegs into a video clip?08:13
skalpelbur[n] er: ubuntu is telling me i do not have any entries in /etc/fstab for hda1-508:14
skalpelbur[n] er: what should i do?08:14
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bur[n] erskalpel: hdb ??08:14
bur[n] erhdc??08:14
mmoscosatopyli hats the tarball in /opt08:14
bur[n] erhdd?08:14
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bur[n] erpossibly a bad hard drive?08:14
skalpelbur[n] er: ok08:14
skalpelno, not a bad hard drive, i just made a typo in /lib/lsb/init_functions08:14
fredforfaenguess its a reinstall then08:14
fredforfaendamn08:14
topylimmoscosa: i can't parse that :)08:14
onurok second question is when i try to play an mpg file with with totem i got sound but no video. What should i do ?08:14
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mmoscosaubotu your page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HowToInstallNVUHTMLEditor/ aparently is not there hehe08:15
ubotummoscosa: that's too long08:15
skalpelbur[n] er: how do i get a list of partitions on my hard drive?08:15
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bur[n] erskalpel: fdisk -l08:15
skalpelthank you08:15
rob_newbieI am so lost08:15
topylimmoscosa: ubotu is just a poor little bot. he cannot understand such long statements :)08:15
shinuhi people08:15
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onurok second question is when i try to play an mpg file with with totem i got sound but no video. What should i do ?08:16
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skalpelbur[n] er: i have 2 linux partitions type 83, on /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda308:16
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skalpelbur[n] er: why can't i mount them?08:16
SimianHi, just installed ubuntu, how do I know what repos to use08:16
rob_newbieCan someone help with a good link over how to install from a tar file I am confused over how to compile these things08:16
Simianthere used to be an unofficial faq but it seems to have gone08:17
thoreauputic!repos08:17
ubotuI guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:17
fredforfaenwish me luck08:17
skalpelbur[n] er: do i need to add these partitions to my /etc/fstab file?08:17
topylimmoscosa: please stop /msging me. i'll help you on the channel08:17
mmoscosatopyli ohh ok08:17
mmoscosatopyli yes im here08:17
mmoscosahehe08:17
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topyli:)08:17
Simianubotu I looked at that but it doesn't tell you wich ones to use08:18
ubotuSimian: No idea08:18
bur[n] erskalpel: i don't think you should have to...08:18
SeveasSimian: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3808:18
topylimmoscosa: so you have the tarball08:18
bur[n] erskalpel: should be auto-detected08:18
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onurno one to help me ?08:18
mmoscosatopyli yes08:18
thoreauputicSimian: start with universe and multiverse08:18
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bur[n] erskalpel: if not... mkdir /mnt/blah; mount /dev/hdxx /mnt/blah08:18
Seveasmmoscosa, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu08:18
topylicd to /opt08:18
Seveas!nvu08:18
ubotu[nvu]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallNVUHTMLEditor/ http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.""08:18
rob_newbiethanks08:18
Seveas!forget nvu08:18
ubotui forgot nvu, Seveas08:18
thoreauputicSimian: if you need win32codecs for video add hoary-extras08:18
Seveasubotu nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.08:19
ubotuSeveas: okay08:19
mmoscosaSeveas ok ill have a look08:19
skalpelbur[n] er: it says i cannot make that dir08:19
topylitopyli: then do this: sudo tar xjvf [drag and drop the file from the file manager to the terminal window] 08:19
bluefoxicytask 6321       (sshd)08:19
bluefoxicy  bfac3000-bfad7000 rwxp bfac3000 00:00 0          [stack] 08:19
bluefoxicy  0808d000-080b3000 rw-p 0808d000 00:00 0          [heap] 08:19
bluefoxicyYou GOTTA love this.08:19
Simianthanks guys, I'll give it a go08:19
bluefoxicysshd with executable stack08:19
skalpelbur[n] er: nm, i got it08:19
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Seveasbluefoxicy, hmmm08:20
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bluefoxicyoddly enough, if I use a PaX kernel, sshd works, but has no WX mappings08:20
PurpleMotionSeveas:  do you ever sleep?08:20
SeveasPurpleMotion, do bots ever sleep?08:20
bluefoxicythat goes for half of Gnome, which decides that it wants WX mappings that it doesn't need.08:20
PurpleMotionbut you're not a bot08:20
bluefoxicyand gaim08:20
SeveasPurpleMotion, who says that?08:20
topyliPurpleMotion: he's a very advanced bot08:21
skalpelbur[n] er: interestingly enough that put me in my windowsxp partition08:21
onurTomcat_, I cant find anything in ubuntuforums related to tomcat or its repos08:21
PurpleMotionif he were a bot, the level of AI he displays would have long standing military applications and we would _never_ see the likes of him in a linux help channel08:21
onurok second question is when i try to play an mpg file with with totem i got sound but no video. What should i do ?08:21
SeveasPurpleMotion, I am developed by people who dislike military applications08:22
thoreauputic!repeat08:22
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repeat is Don't repeat your question every few minutes- if someone knows they will answer08:22
Tomcat_onur: I've installed it a few days ago with a howto from there... wait a seocnd.08:22
ChrischiO`GERwhich chmod commands do i have to use to make a mounted drive read/writeable by nonsu??08:22
skalpelbur[n] er: how do i change over to the linux partition now? i did cd /mnt/blah but it put me in the live cd filesystem08:22
Tomcat_onur: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44006&highlight=tomcat <--- How about this one? :>08:23
SeveasChrischiO`GER, is it a fat23 drive or a linux drive?08:23
PurpleMotionIt doesnt matter if they like military applications or not. if they design a level of ai that advanced, and the military wants it, they willt ake it08:23
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ChrischiO`GERmuaha ntfs  ^^08:23
onurTomcat_, on my way08:23
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acid2_Hey, which repo has gstreamer0.8-faad?08:23
ChrischiO`GERso readonly i know08:23
SeveasPurpleMotion, that may be the case in the US but not here08:23
SeveasChrischiO`GER, indeed08:23
thoreauputicacid2_: probably hoary-extras08:23
acid2_oki doki08:23
PurpleMotionmust be nice08:23
acid2_i'll see if I have that08:23
thoreauputicacid2_: not certain of that though08:23
PurpleMotionbut i doubt its true08:24
ChrischiO`GERyeah but my nonse user is not allowed to read after i mounted it with root08:24
ChrischiO`GER*nonsu08:24
SeveasChrischiO`GER, then add umask=0000 to the fstab line08:24
Seveasin the options fiels08:24
ChrischiO`GERwhat?08:24
Seveasfield*08:24
ChrischiO`GER<-- linux n00b08:24
onurTomcat_, thx. btw the forums are not searchable how should i suppose to find it out08:24
SeveasChrischiO`GER, hehe, remove it completely from /etc/fstab then08:24
acid2_thoreauputic: thats on the backports server, right?08:24
SeveasChrischiO`GER: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically08:24
thoreauputicacid2_: yep08:24
acid2_oki doki08:25
ChrischiO`GERwtf is fstab?08:25
PurpleMotionSeveas:  I spoke with my wife. She's buying me the o'reilley book for the lpi exams today08:25
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skalpelhow do i unmount a filesystem?08:25
SeveasChrischiO`GER, did you mount it manually with the mount command?08:25
ChrischiO`GER<-- TOTAL Linux n00b08:25
Seveasskalpel, umount08:25
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PurpleMotioni'm going to schedule the exam next week08:25
ChrischiO`GERi did08:25
SeveasChrischiO`GER, then unmount it again08:25
thoreauputicChrischiO`GER: it's /etc/fstab - the file that defines where filesystems will be mounted08:25
Seveasumount /dev/something08:25
shinuanyone know why i am not able to play a movie with mplayer but i can with totem player?08:25
Seveaswhere /dev/something is the thing you used in mount08:25
onurTomcat_, also i realized it adds smt to .bashrc how ever this means the tomcat installation is not system wide but user wide08:26
PurpleMotionshinu:  codecs08:26
skalpelseveas: what does it mean if term says that the dev is busy?08:26
PurpleMotionshinu:  totem uses codecs in a plugin fashion.. mplayer has to compile them in08:26
shinuPurpleMotion: should i install codecs before mplayer?08:26
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topylishinu: perhaps you have totem-gstreamer and you have the codecs for gst but not for mplayer08:26
Seveasskalpel, it means that you still have some program open using files on it08:26
PurpleMotionyou should install codecs then apt-get source -b mplayer-68608:26
thoreauputicPurpleMotion: erm, no that's not so08:26
acid2_hmmm, what about libfaad?08:26
PurpleMotionits not?08:26
Seveasor a terminal with the mountpoin as curent dir08:27
PurpleMotionthis is how i understood it to be08:27
thoreauputicPurpleMotion: for instance w32codecs work fine with the ubuntu binaries of mplayer08:27
shinutopyli: but i did the same thing i did on this comp on anyther comp and it worked perfectly fine08:27
ChrischiO`GERSeveas - done08:27
PurpleMotionso then why did i recompile mplayer?08:27
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shinuyeah, i have those w32codecs08:27
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thoreauputicPurpleMotion: I have no idea08:27
PurpleMotionoh well, it's faster now either way ;)08:28
topylishinu: it's weird but mplayer is a mystery anyway08:28
ma3xWhy the hell black screen with blinking cursor shows when I close the lit of my laptop08:28
SeveasChrischiO`GER, no type: wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab && sudo bash winmac_fstab08:28
Tomcat_onur: A user that replied in the thread has posted a startup script for the system... I'm sure that will contain systemwide environment variables.08:28
ChrischiO`GERoO08:28
ChrischiO`GERwhats this?08:28
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shinutopyli: i very much like it 8)08:28
PurpleMotionshinu:  yeah, mplayer is nice08:28
samuwhats the best gui ftp client?08:28
SeveasChrischiO`GER, a little (already famous) script I wrote for automatic mounting of windows partitions08:28
PurpleMotionsamu:  i rather like gftp08:28
shinuand guess what, i can open the movie with mplayer on my other comp but cant with ttem x)08:29
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samuive just been getting annoyed with gftp08:29
shinutotem*08:29
Stern-yo08:29
ChrischiO`GERSeveas - no, it shouldnt be mounted everytime08:29
Seveasoy08:29
PurpleMotionhowso?08:29
Amaranthshinu: totem-xine?08:29
Stern-my install is stuck at 25% of installing repository08:29
Stern-apt08:29
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anacroncan someone help me installing some files to run stepmania?08:29
SeveasChrischiO`GER, you can change that later08:29
shinuAmaranth: i guess just totem, i dont know, the one that comes with ubuntu08:29
cefxideas? ;D08:29
ma3xanya nswer for me?08:29
cefxAmaranth: I'm formatting for the 32bit install :P08:29
PurpleMotionthat's totem-gstreamer08:29
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shinuit says: Could not open resource for writing08:30
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ChrischiO`GERSeveas - just wanna know how I set the right to be read by nonsu on my mounted drive08:30
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Amaranthshinu: if you want w32codecs support and all that you need totem-xine08:30
anacroni need libavformat.so file, which is not provided with ubuntu08:30
PurpleMotiontry sudo apt-get install totem-xine08:30
ma3xwhen I close the LID of the laptop I get BSOD08:30
topylishinu: ubuntu has two totems, with different backends08:30
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onurTomcat_, what about the apache connector jk, i have installed it but how do i configure them all ?08:30
shinuuh...08:30
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SeveasChrischiO`GER, that's what I said: add umask=0000 to the options field of mount or /etc/fstab08:30
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acid2_Would someone mind posting a nice sources.lists ?08:30
tigliona1bithow do I get gkrellm to check mail on my gmail account?08:30
acid2_-s08:30
SDFH_FreeBSDguys whats the command to get the kubuntu desktop on ubuntu08:30
SeveasChrischiO`GER, but you did not understand that, so I was trying to make it easier :)08:30
shinui think i have just totem08:30
PurpleMotionacid2_:  I will08:30
acid2_PurpleMotion: thank you :)08:30
SeveasSDFH_FreeBSD, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop08:30
anacronSDFH_FreeBSD: i suppose it's apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:30
ChrischiO`GERSeveas - but it should not be this way on ALL mounted drives but just at one08:31
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ChrischiO`GERSeveas - is there no way to do with chmod??08:31
SeveasChrischiO`GER, no08:31
Tomcat_onur: No idea about that... I have never installed that. Try searching the Ubuntu wiki and the Ubuntu forums, and if you can't find anything turn to Google or feel free to ask the channel again.08:31
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topylishinu: totet mis a dummy package that just depends on totem-xine08:31
ChrischiO`GERhm08:31
Seveasntfs does not know a bot about that08:31
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Seveasso you will have to specify it when mounting08:31
rob_newbieHello First time using a tar file anyone able to help08:31
PurpleMotionacid2_:  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/90308:31
shinutopyli: oh...08:31
acid2_thank you :)08:31
topylishinu: uhh. totem is...08:32
acid2_What is that last one?08:32
anacronrob_newbie: just ask, someone will answer08:32
cefxI restarted..hmm08:32
PurpleMotionthe debian.neo.pl one gives you all kinds of kde window decos08:32
ma3xis anybody listening to me?08:32
anacronso anyone how to run stepmania?08:32
acid2_ah, no use for me then08:32
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PurpleMotionright on08:32
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PurpleMotionthe rest will do you well, though08:33
calamarihi08:33
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rob_newbiehow do you complie a package from a tar file08:33
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acid2_Yey, im all good now - thanks PurpleMotion !08:33
ChrischiO`GERSeveas - so if i change the accessrights of my mkdir made dir(where later a drive is mounted) doesnt work??08:33
calamariI tried to upgrade to Hoary using Synaptic, but it failed and now I'm missing like everything from my system08:33
thoreauputicma3x: there's no such animal as BSOD in linux :)08:33
SeveasChrischiO`GER, nope08:33
calamariI haven't rebooted yet08:33
ChrischiO`GERSeveas - why?  :)08:33
anacronrob_newbie: you have to extract tar first08:33
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calamarisomeone please help me08:33
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SeveasChrischiO`GER, because it works different :)08:33
ma3xthoreauputic, I meant Black Screen of Death08:34
DekaPinkHuh... Gimp doesn't seem to want to let me crop. :308:34
ChrischiO`GERSeveas - damn WindowsThinking^^08:34
Seveascalamari, try again: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:34
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Seveascalamari, or else: sudo dpkg --configure -a08:34
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PurpleMotionrob^:  first unpack the tar file (tar zxfv file.tar.gz -or- tar jxfv file.tar.bz2), then (cd file-directory) then (./configure) then (make) then (sudo make install) -usually-08:34
thoreauputicrob_newbie: chances are you don't need to compile whatever it is...08:34
eyequeuema3x:  alt-cltrl-f708:34
rob_newbieanacron:  Ok sould I just do this on the desktop?08:34
ar3accan you tell me if there is a unstable livecd ? with new kernel ?08:34
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Seveascalamari, and: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop08:34
ar3aci need at last the kernel 2.6.1008:34
anacronrob_newbie: do as PurpleMotion saod08:34
shinuany idea why ubuntu might kick me off gnome and put back the login screen? 0.o08:34
anacronsaid*08:34
calamariseveas: invalid operation "dist"08:35
Seveascalamari, try again: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:35
ChrischiO`GERHow can i login on gnome as root?08:35
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eyequeueas root?  eww08:35
ChrischiO`GERjap08:35
anacronshinu: have you used windows recently, sometimes ubuntu get's very angry if you do08:35
ma3xeyequeue, I figured that out, but why does the blackscreen show up with a blinking cursor?08:35
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SeveasChrischiO`GER, you should NEVER do that....08:35
thoreauputicrob_newbie: what are you wanting to compile? It might be in the repositories already08:35
cefxSeveas: What would I do to upgrade to -current?08:36
cefxThe same thing you told calamari?08:36
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calamarishould I install packages without verfication (I had to use apt -f)08:36
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rob_newbiecd file-directory?08:36
eyequeuema3x:  my guess is that it's a security feature, semi-like a screenlock, but not as aggressive08:36
Seveascefx, what do you mean>08:36
shinuanacron: er... damn... my parents always use windows :/08:36
Seveas?08:36
cefxthe amd64 install was much  much faster08:36
shinuanacron: xP08:36
cefxSeveas: Kernel upgrade08:36
skalpeldoes anyone else here use bootsplash?08:36
cefxto -current08:36
rob_newbieIt is xmms08:36
ma3xeyequeue, does it happen to you too?08:36
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PurpleMotionrob_newbie:  yeah, change to the directory that was created when you untar'd the source package08:36
ChrischiO`GERSeveas - whats the diffrence between loggin in as root in terminal and as root on gnome??  oO08:36
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calamariyikes .. scrolling too fast08:36
cefxI'm installing 5.04 -- does that come with a -current kernel then?08:36
calamaricant read this in ircii08:36
cefx:)08:36
skalpelwhat is a .diff file?08:36
SeveasChrischiO`GER, as root in X it is very easy to do damage08:36
eyequeuema3x:  yes, it took some getting used to, but it's apparently normal08:36
ar3acsomeone can help me ?08:36
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ar3aci need a live install cd with kernel 2.6.10 ?08:37
anacronshinu: so you have to choose, ubuntu or parents?08:37
ma3xeyequeue, u know how to disable it?08:37
PurpleMotionChrischiO`GER:  because when you log into gnome it spawns about 20 or so processes.. all of these running uid=0 is a BAD thing08:37
eyequeuema3x:  btw, sometimes it moves from f7 here to 710, still have not determined why, but experiment if f7 doesn't work08:37
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PurpleMotionI'm all for having a root account, but I would _never_ log it into X08:37
ChrischiO`GERuid=0  ?08:37
shinuanacron: i have ubuntu on my laptop so it doesnt really matter xP08:37
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shinuhm...08:37
rob_newbieOk I am in the directory now08:37
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PurpleMotionyeah, root is uid=008:37
anacronshinu: keep it cool08:37
eyequeuema3x:  no, i suspect it's in acpi-related packages somewhere08:37
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ChrischiO`GERah.. user ID^^08:37
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topyliskalpel: it contains the differences between two or more files, so that the whole files don't have to be distributed again08:38
shinumy mplayer still gets stuck after finding this soundcard... ;.;08:38
ma3xok eyequeue thanks for the info08:38
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eyequeuema3x:  np08:38
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calamariI should file a bug report on that08:38
shinuanacron: *my* ubuntu works like wonder~08:38
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shinuanacron: i think its something wrong with this comp ;)08:38
skalpeltopyli: so that would be useful for making alterations to the kernel?08:38
DekaPinkHmmm... Anyone know where I might find a Ubuntu-themed splash for gimp? :308:38
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anacronshinu: well usually there is if it won't work :D08:38
PurpleMotionif there were one, dont u think ubuntu would have included it :D08:39
shinu:D08:39
topyliskalpel: yes, it's nicer to download a 100k diff file than a 30M kernel tarball :)08:39
cefx"be cool"08:39
cefxhehehe08:39
ChrischiO`GERSeveas - so how can i tell my drive it should be readable by nonsu when mounting it?? (without editing fstab (couse i dont know how to edit a file  -.-))08:39
skalpeltopyli: what do you do with them? how do you applyu the changes?08:39
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PurpleMotionload up gimp and make one :D08:39
topyliskalpel: you apply them with diff :)08:39
topyliman diff08:39
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cefxChrischiO`GER: vi /etc/fstab08:39
skalpelo08:39
cefxhehe08:39
skalpelok08:39
PurpleMotionChrischiO`GER:  learn :) it's not hard08:39
shinuwhich mplayer should i get? (apart from the nogui one)08:39
cefxor uh08:39
DekaPinkPurpleMotion, I'm still rather bad with it... I don't think it would be very pretty. :D08:39
skalpelis it safe to do this?08:39
cefxin ubuntu it's vim isn't it?08:39
ChrischiO`GERnarf08:40
PurpleMotionand dont do it via vi unless you're masochistic08:40
shinu386? custom?08:40
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thoreauputicChrischiO`GER: editing fstab isn't really that difficult or scary you know :)08:40
depraveRazor-X: where is my gaim plugin for looking at irc chick's boobies?!08:40
ChrischiO`GERgnnaaaaa08:40
cefxthoreauputic: it is in FreeBSD.08:40
cefx;D08:40
SeveasChrischiO`GER, mount -t ntfs /dev/bla /mount/point -o umask=000008:40
PurpleMotionvi/m is evil08:40
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skalpeldoes anyoen in here use bootsplash?08:40
Seveasvim is good08:40
thoreauputiccefx: well, we aren't in freeBSD ;)08:40
PurpleMotiongood and evil08:40
ChrischiO`GERTHX thats all i wanted to know  ;)08:41
cefxSeveas: What's the difference of vi vs vim?08:41
PurpleMotionnano is your friend08:41
PurpleMotionhell, ee rocks the socks off vim08:41
depravePurpleMotion : whazup08:41
topyliskalpel: i'd like to, but have been too busy to play with it. i'm on vacation you see ;-)08:41
Choubakavim is usable.08:41
PurpleMotionsup deprave08:41
PurpleMotionseig heil08:41
depraveHAHA08:41
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depravehe didn't do anything08:41
skalpeltopyli: ok. i want to know how stable it is before i apply it. im assuming you apply the bootsplash .diff file to the kernel, right?08:41
Seveascefx, on ubuntu vi is a symlink to vim08:41
depraveit's an inside joke08:41
Seveask08:41
Seveasbut that talk is not appreciated...08:42
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cefxoh I see.08:42
depravehe is apologetic over it08:42
depravethanks08:42
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topyliskalpel: something like that. actually, patch may be the correct utility. diff is for creating diff files08:42
PurpleMotionyeah uhh sorry for whatever i did08:42
depravehehe08:42
cefxWhat was that URL about the behaviour expected in #ubuntu?08:42
ChrischiO`GERSeveas - do i have to tell him that it is ntfs (-t ntfs) everytime a mount an ntfs?08:42
SeveasChrischiO`GER, yup08:42
depravecefx : www.lemonparty.org i think08:42
skalpeltopyli: do you know when breezy will be released?08:42
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DekaPinkHuh... Has anyone tried installing the NeroLinux deb on Ubuntu? :308:42
ChrischiO`GERSeveas - if i do not??08:43
PurpleMotiondeprave:  do you know how to remove tattoos? i got this big number on my arm, suddenly....08:43
topyliskalpel: september08:43
skalpeli really like bootsplash graphics, but i do not want to go altering my kernel just yet08:43
skalpelok08:43
depravelol!08:43
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cefxoh dear.08:43
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cefxThis is turning into chaos.08:43
ChrischiO`GERSeveas - cause did it   oO08:43
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PurpleMotionskalpel:  splashy08:43
thoreauputicPurpleMotion: I guess a lot of people get offended by nazi references - even if they are intended as jokes08:43
depraveRazor-X are you here sir08:43
cefxChrischiO`GER: Yes.08:43
PurpleMotionthoreauputic:  i guess so.08:43
skalpelpurplemotion: ok08:43
SeveasChrischiO`GER, mount may guess it08:44
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depraveanyone here know of a way to view web cams on gaim via msn messenger and yahoo im?08:44
ChrischiO`GERSeveas - ok^^08:44
Seveasbut I prefer to explicitely say it :)08:44
PurpleMotionbut yaknow seig heil is nothing more than a statement of alleigance (I murdered that word)... they heil things allt he time in germany and it doesnt mean they're nazis08:44
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PurpleMotiondeprave:  gaim-vv08:44
ChrischiO`GERSeveas - and umask=0000 is the option for readable by everyone or what?08:44
ChoubakaPurpleMotion: hint: allegiance.08:45
depravePurpleMotion is that an application of some sort08:45
Choubaka:)08:45
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cefxno08:45
cefxby nobody08:45
SeveasChrischiO`GER, yup08:45
ChrischiO`GERh?08:45
cefxChrischiO`GER: try =022208:45
cefxOh.08:45
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cefxSeveas: that's bad though, -anyone- could fuck with him08:45
PurpleMotiondeprave:  it's a dev branch of gaim that supports voice and video for the msn protocol, and will soon do the same for yahoo08:45
cefxpardon my language08:45
cefx:)08:45
ChrischiO`GERwhat is 0222??08:45
cefxread only08:45
topyliPurpleMotion: you even misspelled it. small wonder people are pissed ;-)08:46
SeveasPurpleMotion, I know the meaning, but it's so much abused by nazis and nazi-like people that the word triggers action quite easily08:46
levanderThere is a command to compare the contents (recursively) of two directories?08:46
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ph8i have a total nub question, can anyone tell me the difference between 386 and 686?08:46
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ChrischiO`GERreadonly by who??08:46
PurpleMotionSeveas:  i'll concede that08:46
cefxeveryone08:46
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levanderph8: 686 is the pentium ii, 386 is the old intel 386, the oldest intel chip linux supports08:46
skalpelpurplemotion: can you tell me what this means? dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of splashy:08:46
skalpel splashy depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:08:46
skalpel  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13.08:46
ChrischiO`GERhm? and 0000 is.. ?08:46
MrMaDSeNhow do I mount what i see at smb://mediabox ?08:46
svizzeroanyone knows a package for measuring cpu temperature on linux?08:46
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PurpleMotionwhat version of splashy do you have?08:47
PurpleMotioncause mine didnt do that08:47
cefxread/write/etc08:47
PurpleMotiontry: apt-get -f install08:47
PurpleMotionlemme see what version of splashy i have08:47
skalpeli have 1.5, the most recenet version08:47
PurpleMotionii  splashy        0.1.5          A complete user-space boot splash system08:47
thoreauputicsvizzero: lmsensors - but configuring it is a bit of a pain08:47
PurpleMotionhrmm08:48
eyequeuesvizzero:  gkrellm08:48
shadrachcan u use regular deb's with ubuntu?08:48
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PurpleMotiontry: apt-get -f install08:48
ChrischiO`GERcefx - by what? everybody?08:48
PurpleMotiondoes it remove splashy?08:48
svizzeroeyequeue, does gkrellm display also the cpu temperature?08:48
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graabeinshadrach, i want to know this as well. or at least how to try them08:48
cefxYes.08:48
graabeinbefore i install08:48
cefxYou don't wnat to write to NTFS though08:48
cefxthat is a -bad- idea08:48
eyequeuesvizzero:  mine displays both cpu and hdd temp here08:48
shadrachwell, there are certain apps i want that I know are not in the ubuntu repos08:48
rob_newbieok after I am in the directory that it was extracted to what do I do?08:48
ChrischiO`GERcefx - and what is the code for suonly?08:48
shinushould it make any difference whether i use mplayer in gnome or xfce4?08:48
skalpelpurplemotion: i got the same arror using aptitude08:48
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topylishadrach: a deb is a deb. it depends on which system the package was built on. debian packages may or may not work -- better not use them08:49
cefxsu only? um mount it with sudo and specify nothing08:49
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PurpleMotionskalpel:  try: apt-get -f install08:49
cefxand only root will get it08:49
ChrischiO`GERhm  :/08:49
skalpelpurplemotion: i did, i got the same error08:49
PurpleMotiondoes it remove splashy? or upgrade your library?08:49
Seveastopyli, a deb is a deb of course of course, and no one can talk to a deb of course, ....:)08:49
thoreauputicshinu: mplayer works fine in any window manger / desktop08:49
shadrachok, so i guess ubuntu aint for me then08:49
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topyliheh08:49
skalpelpurplemotion: er, sorry i did not08:49
eyequeuesvizzero:  i may have added some extra gkreallm-* packages too, browse through synaptic or aptitude to see if there are any you like, if you decide to install it08:49
PurpleMotionwhat command, exactly, are you entering?08:49
skalpelpurplemotion: it is removing splashy now08:49
PurpleMotionah08:49
PurpleMotiontry08:49
calamariseveas: the apt-get dist-upgrade has finished.. do I need to do anything else?>08:49
kemikPurpleMotion:  i think its "sieg heil" not "seig heil"08:49
shinuthoreauputic: well... it seems to fail with both my configurations under gnome08:49
Seveascalamari, yes reboot08:50
PurpleMotiondpkg -i --force-all splashy08:50
shinuthoreauputic: though on my laptop it works very fine under xfce408:50
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svizzeroeyequeue, k thx08:50
calamariseveas: okay.. there was another command you mentioned but I didn't do it yeytdoes it matter?08:50
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skalpelpurplemotion: dpkg: error processing splashy (--install):08:50
skalpel cannot access archive: No such file or directory08:50
depravePurpleMotion ok thanks08:50
thoreauputicshinu: hmm - dunno then08:50
shinudamn08:50
depravePurpleMotion can i apt-get it?08:50
shinuok08:50
Seveascalamari, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop08:50
PurpleMotionkemik:  whatever it was a joke and you people have killed it, resurrected it, killed it again, and crucified it08:50
shinugoing to install xfce4 on this comp08:50
Seveasit does matter a lot08:50
PurpleMotionso let it go08:50
thoreauputicshinu: here it seems OK in any WM08:50
shinuthanks a lot for your help ^^08:50
Chaotic_Shieldhmm....08:50
graabeincan anyone tell me which of these (i have 0.4*) running and i want to get 0.5*08:50
graabeinhttp://tuxcmd.sourceforge.net/download.php08:50
PurpleMotiondeprave:  i doubt it08:50
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shinuthoreauputic: seems my bad luck keeps following me around... :P08:51
shinuthoreauputic: though i prefer xfce anyways xP08:51
shinuk, bye08:51
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ChrischiO`GERjuhu  i worked  :)08:51
Chaotic_Shieldbah08:51
PurpleMotiondeprave:  it is installable via cvs though08:52
PurpleMotiondeprave:  gaim-vv.sf.net08:52
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ChrischiO`GER*it08:52
kemikPurpleMotion:  of futurecrew ?08:52
skalpelpurplemotion: any ideas on how to install splashy? i cannot use synaptic either08:52
Chaotic_Shieldany way to update locate db?08:52
Chaotic_Shieldlocate -u or somesuch?08:52
PurpleMotionskalpel:  dpkg -i --force-all splashy.deb08:53
rob_newbieI am working on installing xmms from a tarball   what am I suppost to type ./configure in??08:53
kemikChaotic_Shield:  sudo locate -u08:53
thoreauputicChaotic_Shield: sudo apdatedb08:53
kemikChaotic_Shield:  try the man-pages ;)08:53
PurpleMotionalthough i get no such errors with splashy08:53
PurpleMotionodd08:53
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thoreauputicChadza: sorry typo sudo updatedb08:53
skalpelpurplemotion: dpkg: error processing splashy.deb (--install):08:53
skalpel cannot access archive: No such file or directory08:53
kemikrob_newbie:  apt-get install xmms instead, always the better option08:53
calamariseveas: thanks a lot for your help, btw :)08:53
PurpleMotionwell you're gonna have to change it to the actual name of the .deb file08:53
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ChrischiO`GERhow can i make a link to my mounted drive on my desktop?08:54
skalpelpurplemotion: k, i did =) forgive me, im new to linux08:54
PurpleMotionit's all good08:54
kemikrob_newbie:  but concerning your question, you open a terminalwindow, goto the folder where you've unpacked the tarball and type ./configure08:54
skalpelpurpemotion: k, that worked. how do i configure it now?08:54
ChrischiO`GERdont tell me to make a dir and mount it there..08:54
rob_newbieAhh K08:54
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nonameyay08:54
PurpleMotionskalpel:  man splashy... alternatively take a look in /etc/splashy08:54
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rob_newbieso what is better about apt anyway08:55
PurpleMotionparticularly at /etc/splashy/config.xml08:55
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kemikrob_newbie:  everything08:55
PurpleMotionI heart apt08:55
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Chaotic_ShieldChrischiO`GER, make a link that points to wherever you mounted the drive to.08:55
ChrischiO`GERhow?08:55
thoreauputicChrischiO`GER: middle mouse button drag the mount point icon to the desktop and choose to make a link, if I remember correctly08:55
PurpleMotionokay, im gonna go watch herbie... talk to you guys later08:55
skalpelpurplemotion: thank you for your help08:56
kemikrob_newbie:  only time you wanna compile stuff is when it's not available as a .deb package or in the apt-repositories ;)08:56
PurpleMotionnetime, man08:56
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ChrischiO`GERah ok08:56
ChrischiO`GERcan i do links manually too???08:56
rob_newbiekemik:  LOL well I found it in a deb but am equally lost there too08:56
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ChrischiO`GERmake one and then specify a target?08:56
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kemikrob_newbie:  try "sudo apt-get install xmms" (without the quotes)08:57
kemikrob_newbie:  installing a .deb package is: "dpkg -i name.deb"08:57
ChrischiO`GERlike chaotic told08:57
thoreauputicChrischiO`GER: sure, you can do a link in terminal with ln -s (see man ln )08:57
ChrischiO`GERhm08:57
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topylirob_newbie: really, you should use apt-get since xmms is in the ubuntu universe08:57
J_PI not like users have root access, then I remove all from admin group and I change root password. But  when I try change some preferences gnome show me one window for enter with user passowrd. Is possible change for accept root password for change preferences ?08:58
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ChrischiO`GERbut i could also make a dir and mount my drive there??08:58
rob_newbiehmmm08:58
topyliskalpel: the splashy deb fails here too. i guess i'll build a new one08:58
ChrischiO`GER..on my desktop?08:58
rob_newbieI am so new to this08:58
rob_newbieI like it but Am confused08:59
loorniHow can i erase my PPPoE connection08:59
loorni?08:59
kemikrob_newbie:  im assuming you've not touched the /etc/apt/sources.list file, a suggestion is to edit that file and remove the # infront of the universe/multiverse repositories, in a termina type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"08:59
SeveasJ_P, whoah you're not making sense there. Can you rephrase that question please08:59
J_PSeveas: ok!08:59
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thoreauputicChrischiO`GER: you can mount filesystems on the desktop if you wish, yes -but making links is the approved/better way08:59
kemikrob_newbie:  after that is done, type "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get install xmms"08:59
DekaPinkNeroLinux is pretty. :308:59
Chaotic_Shieldthoreauputic, you know where apt-get installs programs? /usr/bin?09:00
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Chaotic_Shieldnvm.09:00
rob_newbiekemik:  ????? brb09:00
Chaotic_Shieldit is.09:00
kemikDekaPink:  nerolinux is ok, but growisofs works for .img files which Nero does not :)09:00
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thoreauputicChaotic_Shield: to see where a package is installed type dpkg -L <package>09:00
skalpeltopyli: i got it to work using purplemotions last command recommendation, i now have it installed09:00
kemikrob_newbie:  i'm leaving in about 5minutes09:00
ChrischiO`GERand links stay on my desk after reboot .. and mounts i have to make evertime new if they are not written in fstab???09:00
DekaPinkkemik, not a problem for me yet... Since I've never had to use any .img files. :309:01
J_PSeveas: I click system->admin-> config_my_init_session and show message "Please enter your password for run gdmsetup". but i like password accept is only root password..09:01
kemikDekaPink:  lucky you;) just remember that growisofs works for them aswell when the time comes ;)09:01
topyliskalpel: the comment about you using an incorrect filename?09:01
thoreauputicChrischiO`GER: that's what /etc/fstab is for: so you don't have to manually mount stuff all the time if you don't want to09:01
Chaotic_ShieldI heart locate -ucl 009:01
ChrischiO`GERok09:02
J_PSeveas: i change root password using #passwd root; and i get out all users from admin group. Becouse i not like users have access to suso09:02
DekaPinkkemik: What would one need .img files for? :)09:02
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J_PSeveas: understand now ?09:02
SeveasJ_P, yep09:02
skalpeltopyli: yes09:02
kemikDekaPink:  DVD and CD imagefiles09:02
DekaPinkkemik: Okey dokey. :309:03
SeveasJ_P, you can specify that in /etc/sudoers09:03
J_PSeveas: how i do for i write root password for setup preferences and not user password ?09:03
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skalpeltopyli: use dpkg -i --force-all splashy.deb substituting splashy.deb for the package name09:03
SeveasJ_P, that file is just a pain in the ass to edit09:03
catolhIs the amsn site down?09:03
Seveashang on09:03
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kemikJ_P:  only edit sudoers with "visudo"09:03
skalpeltopyli: it worked over here09:03
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kemikit's a picky file, and you DONT want to mess it up09:03
J_PSeveas: humm09:03
topyliskalpel: ahh, force. i guess i'd rather build from the debian source09:04
SeveasJ_P, try this command: EDITOR=gedit sudo visudo09:04
DekaPinkI decided to get nerolinux to see if it would work for better than gnomebaker and k3b, which always error right at the end of writing a CD. :309:04
SeveasJ_P, that opens an editor window09:04
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onurI tried to add the repos in http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories but they dont seem work furthermore referring that page i am trying to install flashplayer with sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla but it says theres no such package, am i doing something wrong ?09:04
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Chaotic_Shieldhttp://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2005-08-01 <--- HAHAHAHAH09:04
SeveasJ_P, did that work?09:04
ohaycan someone help me with something? I've just installed Ubuntu 5.04 on a machine which already has others distros and selected the existing /home partition as Ubuntu's home partition09:04
thoreauputiconur: did you run sudo apt-get update after editing the file?09:05
topylionur: yes, you're getting help from a page that's incorrect :)09:05
Chaotic_Shieldohay, well that wasn't very smart was it?09:05
ohaythe problem is that it doesn't allow writing on /home, and I can't understand why09:05
J_PSeveas: yes, but i not understand how do now for accept only root password ? becouse root are in /etc/sudoers09:05
onurthoreauputic, no i'll do right now09:05
onurtopyli, are u sure ?09:05
topyliohay: your user id is different on different systems09:05
topylionur: no. but the guide is known to be wrong sometimes09:06
SeveasJ_P, hang on :)09:06
thoreauputicohay: probably your user has a different uid on the other distros09:06
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SeveasJ_P, search for the line that starts with Defaults:09:06
Seveaspaste that line in here09:06
ohaytopyli: but I'm using diferent users09:06
onurtopyli, but it mentioned to run update, somehow i missed it, my fault it was09:06
Chaotic_Shieldanyone know where to get more login themes?09:07
topyliohay: hmm., well that's different09:07
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topylionur: oh, that happens too :)09:07
SeveasChaotic_Shield, art.gnome.org / gnome-look.org09:07
J_PSeveas: # Defaults09:07
J_PDefaults        !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn09:07
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shinuoh yes, i have another question 8)09:07
calamarihi09:07
SeveasJ_P good09:07
ohaysince Ubuntu doesn't come with an enabled root acount I'm trying to create a folder for my user09:07
Seveasyou need to change that line09:07
shinuhow do i put xfce4 as my default wm?09:07
J_PSeveas: for waht ?09:07
calamariI've upgraded to Hoary, and I lost all my menus from Warty .. can I get them back?09:07
J_Pfor what ?09:07
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SeveasDefaults        !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn,rootpw09:07
Seveasthat09:08
ohayjust by typing mkdir user_name09:08
Seveasso add ,rootpw09:08
J_PSeveas: ok, goin to test09:08
thoreauputicshinu: in the login screen when you select it from Sessions, it should ask you if you want it as default09:08
SeveasJ_P good luck :)09:08
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SeveasJ_P, but!!!09:08
thoreauputicshinu: when you login09:08
catolhi just got this error configuring amsn cvs.. "checking tcl build dir... configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev09:08
catolh".. anyone know what might be wrong?09:08
shinuthoreauputic: k, will try that one09:08
Seveaskeep your user in that file!!09:08
Seveasotherwise it will not work :)09:08
Spudchatallright guys one more question09:09
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Spudchatiroffer can be installed in ubuntu correct?09:09
calamariI've upgraded to Hoary, and I lost all my menus from Warty .. can I get them back?09:09
J_PSeveas: what ?09:09
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J_PSeveas: not work.. :-(09:09
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SeveasJ_P if you remove users or groups from that file it will not work, users still need to be in there in order to be able to run sudo09:10
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shammyhello, i've been trying to install linux on this system for a very long time, unsuccessfully. the problem is the ati video card, and getting drivers to work with it and a proper xserver config. last night I downloaded damn small linux and burned it to a cd as a livecd, and it works perfectly. Is there anyway I can use this to help figure out how to get Ubuntu to work?09:10
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AlexBOhello evrybody. I've a strange problem.I have copied some files from a cd and now i can't unmount it. "Device is busy": that's impossible! i've fusered it too: nothing.how can i do?09:10
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ohayI can't remember now, but what's the command for changing the owner of a file/folder?09:10
SeveasJ_P, and one more thing: changes become effective only after you closed the editor. simply saving the file is not enough09:10
Seveasohay, chown09:10
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J_PSeveas: ok, i only remove user in /etc/group in admin group09:10
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shinuthoreauputic: ok thanks a lot 8)09:11
shinuk.09:11
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J_PSeveas: i need restart X ?09:11
SeveasJ_P, unfortunately users must be in the admin group to be able to run sudo09:11
shinugnights people ^^09:11
thoreauputicshammy: dsl uses a very basic x-server, not xorg: to get a similar effect you could select the vesa driver in ubuntu09:11
ohaySeveas: and does it have any parameters like the three permission numbers?09:11
milwattshey ppl09:11
shinuthanks a lot for your help09:11
Seveasohay, chown new_owner filename09:11
milwattswhere do i get a print version installation guide of ubuntu?09:11
J_PSeveas: but i cannot give super user permission for tht user...09:11
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JakestahI am starting to install ubuntu for the first time and I downloaded the AMD64 installer and it told me my CPU doesn't support long mode and to get a 32bit distro. My friend told me to try the Intelx86 Install but when I burn that ISO to a disk it doesn't read it. It just says it's a blank cd. What is it I should do?09:12
SeveasJ_P, is that user in the admin group?09:12
J_PSeveas: yes09:12
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J_PSeveas: sorry, now not are mor09:12
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shammythoreauputic: how do I select the vesa driver?09:12
J_PSeveas: i get out all user in admin group09:12
thoreauputicshammy: of course the vesa driver won't give you anything approaching the potential performance of a dedicated driver09:12
SeveasJ_P, if the user is not in the admin group, he cannot run sudo09:12
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shinugnights09:12
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SeveasJ_P, or you must add the user to /etc/sudoers09:13
wabbleanybody with raid1 setup on sil3112 chip here? Wondering about installing the raid1 during install or after.. how to?09:13
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shammythoreauputic: but atleast it is something, that i can use until i figure out getting the card working09:13
J_PSeveas: sill be testing..09:13
thoreauputicshammy: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select it09:13
Razor-XSeveas: I see that doing complex tables in LaTeX is a pretty big pain09:13
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shammythoreauputic: ok thanks09:13
thoreauputicshammy: yeah, it's a starting point09:13
SeveasRazor-X, even simple tables are a pain :)09:13
JakestahWould anybody mind helping me installing. I'm having issues : (09:13
Razor-Xis there some sort of better environment for tables than tabular? or does it come with a fit-to-page thingie?09:13
Razor-XSeveas: well, ok, but it's more of a pain than usual ;)09:13
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Seveasthere is tabularx09:13
Seveasthat is one with wrapping09:14
Razor-Xahhh, thank god ;)09:14
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Seveas:D09:14
Razor-Xany different syntax from what I already have?09:14
calamariis there any way to get my old Warty icons back.. the Hoary icons suck09:14
Seveastabularx is a different package09:14
oris_wolfbanehey guys09:14
Seveasgoogle CPAN for instructions :)09:14
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Razor-XI mean, some of my lines look good, but the rest are chopped off at the wrong places, and it looks like shit09:14
Razor-XSeveas: mmmkay ;)09:14
oris_wolfbaneis thera command to reload all the printers/ redo hot plug09:14
milwattskubuntu or ubuntu installation is similar?09:14
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Seveasoris_wolfbane, reboot :)09:14
Razor-Xerr, CTAN Seveas ;)09:15
Seveasmilwatts, yes09:15
PM-Mewveeive come to the conclusion that its not my codecs or players, these two mp4's are both bad09:15
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SeveasRazor-X, ehrm, true :)09:15
milwattsSeveas thnx :)09:15
milwattsbrb09:15
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oris_wolfbaneseveas thats the problem in middle of a huuuuuge compile and dont want to stop09:15
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Seveasoris_wolfbane, then wait for the compile to finish :)09:16
Chaotic_Shieldlol09:16
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Chaotic_Shieldis there a  way to refresh hotplug though?09:16
oris_wolfbaneseveas, its already been going for 9 hours!09:16
Seveasoris_wolfbane, there is invoke-rc.d hotplug restart09:16
PurpleMotionyeah09:16
calamariplease anyone.. where are  my Warty menus?09:16
PurpleMotionkillall -1 hotplug09:16
PurpleMotionor09:16
oris_wolfbaneseveas, thanxs09:16
Seveasoris_wolfbane, wtf are you compiling? KDE?09:16
calamariI need stuff off them that Hoary screwed over09:16
PurpleMotion /etc/init.d/hotplug restart09:16
oris_wolfbaneseaves, openembedded09:16
MartenHlo all.09:17
MrkHello09:17
Seveasoris_wolfbane, is that simulator or SDK?09:17
adiabaticWhat's the proper way to run a program once a day in Ubuntu? I'm used to using /etc/periodic, but I haven't found it in my install nor through synaptic09:17
oris_wolfbanethe pakages09:17
Seveasadiabatic, cron09:17
thoreauputiccalamari: I wonder if when you upgraded you didn't have the ubuntu-desktop metapackage installed?09:17
Razor-XSeveas: when specifying tabularx's width. do I specify it in points? is there any way to specify the whole page minus margins?09:17
PurpleMotionadiabatic:  /etc/cron.daily09:17
adiabaticthanks09:17
Razor-XI really don't want to use a spreadsheeting tool, because LaTeX looks so good ;)09:17
SeveasRazor-X, ENOCLUE, never used it myself :)09:17
calamarithoreauputic: I did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:17
Razor-XSeveas: ahhh, ok, ;)09:18
thoreauputiccalamari: OK09:18
JakestahCan someone help me Install ubuntu? It's my first time09:18
SeveasJakestah, what's the problem?09:18
JakestahI am starting to install ubuntu for the first time and I downloaded the AMD64 installer and it told me my CPU doesn't support long mode and to get a 32bit distro. My friend told me to try the Intelx86 Install but when I burn that ISO to a disk it doesn't read it. It just says it's a blank cd. What is it I should do?09:18
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JakestahBy the way I have an AMD 3000+ Processor09:18
SeveasJakestah, hmm, are you sure the cd is burnt right (ie: can you see files on it in windows?)09:18
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JakestahNo I can't09:18
thoreauputicJakestah: did you burn the CD as an iso image?09:19
JakestahI tried reburning like 5 times with different programs09:19
calamarithoreauputic: so I've lost my menus completely then?09:19
JakestahYes I did09:19
SeveasJakestah, maybe the .iso file is nad09:19
Seveasbad*09:19
JakestahMaybe.09:19
Seveascheck the md5 sum09:19
JakestahOk wheres that at?09:19
thoreauputiccalamari: I don't know, sorry09:19
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shammythoreauputic: what was the command to reconfig xserver? I usually use xorgcfg -textmode but it doesn't give the option to use vesa.09:19
Seveas!md5sum09:19
ubotuI haven't a clue, Seveas09:19
hammer3008can anyone help me with installing ubuntu...i am now using xp09:19
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thoreauputicshammy:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:20
shammythanks09:20
JakestahThanks!09:20
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Razor-XSeveas: do you know how much space you have without the margins on a LaTeX letterpaper ?09:20
Jakestah!md5sum09:20
ubotuJakestah: I give up, what is it?09:20
hammer3008and tell me why i should install ubuntu will it run faster.09:20
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thoreauputichammer3008: no spyware, no viruses, complete freedom to do as you wish with the OS ...09:21
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Razor-Xhammer3008: Linux in general will run faster, your network speeds can become faster (my Linux box seems to get more throughput from the same connection versus the Windows equilavent), it's more powerful than Windows, and almost everything is no cost09:21
Razor-Xyou also have the advantages of an almost virus-free environment, and an adware/spyware-free environment09:22
popey..and a warm fuzzy feeling inside09:22
Razor-Xyes that too ;)09:22
Razor-Xand you get to learn something -- although I suspect that's more of a detractor for most ;)09:22
hammer3008can you still use torrents on linux09:23
thoreauputicand you get to make rude jestures in the direction of Redmond *grin*09:23
wabblei cant get raid1 to work on install and get error 18 from grub, anybody?09:23
popeydownload torrents? yes09:23
thoreauputic*gestures09:23
calamarihow do I edit my menus.. is it Applications:/// ?09:23
calamari(that's not working(09:23
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hammer3008ok now how do i install it the file that i downloaded is alittle bigger than 2gigs09:23
thoreauputichammer3008: torrents were an open source invention09:23
hammer3008and i dont know what to put on cd09:24
popeyinstall what?09:24
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thoreauputichammer3008: 2 Gigs ? Was it a DVD or something?09:24
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popeyit may be multiple ISOs09:24
popeyfedora do that with their torrents09:24
hammer3008i tried to put the launch on a cd and reboot with the cd09:24
popeyone torrent, 4 isos09:25
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hammer3008i got it from the ubuntu site09:25
popeywhat files do you have?09:25
popeyare they .iso files?09:25
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BobaFettHey guys, anyone knows what 'gst-register' is? i can't run rhythmbox because of a 'scheduler' issue :(09:25
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Razor-Xback09:26
uber_newbercan sum1 please help me install my toshiba usb fdd kit09:26
Razor-Xhammer3008: download torrents? hah09:26
thoreauputicBobaFett: have you run ' gst-register0.8 ' ?09:26
hammer3008what is so funny09:26
Razor-Xa great majority of torrents around the internet are Linux isos09:26
uber_newbercan sum1 please help me install my toshiba usb fdd kit, im running ubuntu 5.0409:26
hammer3008i didnt know that09:26
Razor-Xmost of the larger torrents are large Linux distributions09:26
wabbleand the rest is movies and such09:26
Razor-Xexactly09:27
Razor-X;)09:27
BobaFettthoreauputic: Nopes, but tried just now and I get the 'command not found' thingie from the bash :(09:27
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BobaFettthoreauputic: what's that? i've never had that problem before :(09:27
popeyit's gst-register-0.809:27
popeynote the extra minus sign09:27
thoreauputicBobaFett: hmm - it should be there - try typing  gst-reg <tab>09:27
thoreauputicpopey: ah yes you are right09:28
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catolhis the amsn that supports webcam in ubuntu's repository?09:28
BobaFettthoreauputic: I just ran gst-register-0.8 and it seems to be doing something :)09:28
thoreauputicBobaFett: sorry my bad09:28
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thoreauputicpopey: thanks09:28
popeycatolh: i don't think it does09:28
popeynp09:28
catolhpopey, ok, so i need to install from cvs?09:28
popeydunno, i use gaim09:28
wabbleso is there anybody here who knows installing a raid1 set via the ubuntuinstaller now? sil311209:28
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BobaFettthoreauputic: I got 'loaded 148 plugins with 490 features'...and rhythmbox runs again! :)09:28
popeywabble: yes09:29
popeywabble: i did it yesterday09:29
thoreauputicBobaFett: :)09:29
popeywabble: what you wanna know?09:29
BobaFettThanks a bunch, guys! :) :)09:29
wabblepopey, howto09:29
wabble:p09:29
uber_newbercan sum1 please help me install my toshiba usb fdd kit, im running ubuntu 5.04. my laptop is a toshiba tecra 8000 2 processor09:29
hammer3008.disk,bin,casper,disctree,dists,doc,install,isolinux,pics,pool,preseed,programs,tools,autorun,md5sum,README,start,start,start,ubuntu.09:29
icewtcatolh, it is09:29
thoreauputicBobaFett: you're welcome09:29
Razor-Xuber_newber: what's a fdd kit?09:29
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hammer3008those are tghe names of the files and folders that i have09:29
popeywabble: i used boot: server-expert09:29
uber_newbera floppy disk drive09:29
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catolhicewt, what version is it?09:29
uber_newbercuz i dont have one built into my laptop09:30
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Razor-Xuber_newber: so, it's a USB Floppy Drive?09:30
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Razor-X;)09:30
hammer3008 .disk,bin,casper,disctree,dists,doc,install,isolinux,pics,pool,preseed,programs,tools,autorun,md5sum,README,start,start,start,ubuntu.09:30
wabblepopey, ok.. i just used the server, but you do it from the manual pratitioning tool?09:30
popeywabble: yes09:30
uber_newberRazor-X: correct09:30
Razor-Xhave you tried ``hotplug'', uber_newber ?09:30
crimsunhammer3008: any reason you keep pasting that?09:30
jipitorein first time sorry for my english09:30
popeycrimsun: he has downloaded an ubuntu iso and wants to know how to install09:30
Madpilothammer3008: you don't open the ISO, you just burn the whole thing to a CD as an ISO09:30
Razor-Xhammer3008: if you want to check the integrity of your CD, don't paste that here, check the md5sum of the CD09:30
uber_newberRazor-X: i dont even know what hotplug is09:30
icewtcatolh, er.. or maybe it isn't a versiont that supports webcam, don't know.09:30
popeyCrane: i asked what was in the iso09:30
uber_newberRazor-X: im a complete newb09:30
Razor-Xuber_newber: in a terminal type in ``hotplug''09:31
uber_newberk09:31
jipitoreanybody was configured a tv card with chip conexant 87809:31
jipitore?09:31
Razor-Xoh wow, my new headphones are incredible09:31
icewtcatolh, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/x11/amsn09:31
thoreauputichammer3008: I'm not sure you have the right download there... most people download the CD iso for the installation CD09:31
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wabblepopey, so how do i set it up? i set up the scsi2 as a raid disk and copy the content from scsi1?09:31
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popeywabble: no09:31
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popeywabble: you have two disks the same yes?09:31
Razor-Xthoreauputic: you want to get the iso, and then burn the iso onto the CD using a burning program that supports ISOs09:31
popeywabble: create two partitions, one on each disk09:32
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wabblepopey, yes09:32
Razor-X(which is the majority of burning programs out there, free or not)09:32
popeywabble: that are the same size09:32
wabbleboth primarys?09:32
popeywabble: then there's an option at the top of the partitioner to create raid09:32
hammer3008the whole thing is too big what do i download to the cd09:32
Madpilothammer3008: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto <-- has info on burning Ubuntu ISOs09:32
hammer3008i have nero09:32
thoreauputicRazor-X: I assume that was meant for hammer3008 ?09:32
popeywabble: you create an md device, it's pretty simple from there09:32
popeythen select the partition (the raid one that gets created) and make it /09:32
thoreauputic!download09:33
ubotuI heard download is get Ubuntu LiveCD & install ISOs at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ and if you need information on burning ISOs, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto09:33
thoreauputichammer3008: ^^^09:33
wabblepopey, but the partitions i create.. do i set them as primarys?09:33
Madpilothammer3008: it shouldn't be too big. the Ubuntu install is 586Mb, the live CD is 625Mb roughly09:33
popeyummm, it's all getting kinda hazy now09:33
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popeyi just created one big partition09:33
wabblepopey, i have to create two "physical volume for raid"?09:33
Razor-Xthoreauputic: yeah, it was09:33
popeyyes09:33
wabblepopey, ok09:33
Razor-Xhammer3008: then use nero to open the ISO file09:34
wabblepopey, do i enable the bootable flag on any of the drives?09:34
popeycan't remember09:34
wabbleok09:34
Razor-Xgo to Nero Burning Rom, hit the ``Open'' button, now in the filetypes drop box, select ``Image files (*.iso) and open the iso09:34
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Razor-X(if you don't know how, that is)09:34
calamarihow do I edit my menus?09:35
thoreauputic!smeg09:35
ubotuwell, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.09:35
thoreauputiccalamari: ^^^09:35
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Razor-Xand, calamari, thank Amaranth after that ;)09:35
Razor-X(since he made it)09:35
thoreauputicindeed09:36
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wabblepopey, think i got it figured out. Thanks for the help, hope i wont see the error 18 from grub anymore :)09:37
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calamarithanks Amaranth .. but I don't see any comment by you :)09:38
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wabblepopey, hold on. it crashed haha09:38
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BrianB04Afternoon all.09:38
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flodinehello09:40
speelhi09:40
Camoyo09:40
speelyo09:40
flodineno one talking'09:40
flodinewhy09:40
catolherhm..09:40
speelno humans09:40
Camo1 op... 536 others09:40
flodineis everthing fixed09:40
Camowhoas09:40
wabblei can talk about me not getting raid1 to work09:40
catolhbash: cvs: command not found..09:41
catolhwtf?09:41
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crimsuninstall it09:41
Camoi can rant about how we dont have good 64-bit flash?09:41
catolhyeah, figured that much.. but thanks.. heh :)09:41
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calamariwait.. so it's no longer possible to Run Applications:/// or whatever it was, to edit menus ?09:41
noxcatolh, sudo apt-get install cvs?09:41
crimsuncalamari: not in Hoary, no.09:41
samuwhy does the users command make it seem like theres three of me logged in?09:41
calamaricrimsun: is this a bug or on purpose?09:42
Distro^Junkieis the latest kubuntu buggy or stable ?09:42
Seveassamu, you probably have 2 terminals open :)09:42
crimsuncalamari: on purpose.09:42
speelon purpose to make us all mad09:42
SeveasDistro^Junkie, Kubuntu Hoary is rock solid09:42
noxsamu, gnome runs on its own user09:42
calamarino wonder my menus are gone :(09:42
speellol09:42
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Distro^Junkieok Seveas09:42
Camoanyone use the I386 liveCD yet? how fast does it start on somewhere around P3-P4 processor?09:42
samuoh, so its like i log in to the system another time for every terminal?09:42
SeveasCamo, a few minutes (much too long, it's being worked on)09:43
Camok.. thx09:43
speelwow 1st time ive seen a real op in here09:43
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Camothats alot of people for just 1 person to be OP09:43
Camomake me op ^_^09:43
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linuksoSeveas: is it possible to remove lvm, raid and evm from boot?09:44
linuksoor anyone else?09:44
uber_newberwhtas the commands to get to the video resolution configuration09:44
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shinuim back again 8)09:44
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shinuhow can i change my keyboard mapping from gb to us?09:45
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zAo^uber_newber, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:45
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uber_newberzAo^: thank u09:45
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zAo^uber_newber, edit the 'highest' reso at the default depth!09:45
LasseLuber_newber, try the System > Preferences menu first :)09:45
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Camo<3 ubuntu09:46
zAo^agree ^^09:46
uber_newberLassel: tried that already but thanx :)09:46
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jipitoreanybody was configured a tv card in ubuntu?09:46
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LasseLjipitore, I am trying :)09:46
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jipitoreand?09:46
john_hi everybody09:47
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LasseLjipitore, mine worked with xawtv out of the box09:47
john_hi dr nick09:47
raDeonwhat's the difference between JuK and amaroK09:47
speelSeveas, you should put ubuntuguide.org in the topic line09:47
LasseLjipitore, but getting mythtv up and running is arcane09:47
jipitorelasset, sorry for my englis, i'm spanish09:47
Seveasspeel, nope09:47
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Seveasubuntuguide is a Bad Thing09:47
jipitorei show the video but the sound is imposible09:47
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linuksowiki.ubunutu.org is goooood09:48
linukso:)09:48
jipitorei have a card with a conexant chip 878 and you?09:48
Burgundaviajipitore, #ubuntu-es might be able to help you09:48
speelthe wiki is the sloppyest thing ive ever seen09:48
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Seveasspeel, then help fixing it...09:48
linuksospeel: then get involved.09:48
LasseLjipitore, I think I have a brooktree 8x8 chip too09:48
speelno i hate all wikis09:48
linuksospeel: whats wrong with it?09:48
LasseLjipitore, the bttv module should be loaded by default by the kernel09:49
speelive never been a fan of the wiki i personally thinks its kinda sloppy09:49
LasseLjipitore, I don't know about sound. My tv card is in a server09:49
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shinuhm...09:49
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linuksospeel: hmm, I think that is a rather odd point of view... :)09:50
jipitorei'm load the bttv module: modprobe bttv card=1 pll=1 tuner=109:50
raDeonwhat's the difference between JuK and amaroK09:50
thoreauputicraDeon: amarok is better *grin*09:50
jipitorebut the sound don't work09:50
raDeonhow so?09:50
speeli suppose lol09:50
john_irc is just miltiplayer notpad09:50
jipitorei try with xawtv, tvtime, zapping09:50
thoreauputicraDeon: it was just a joke ;)09:51
LasseLSeveas, why is it that the topic doesn't mention the national ubuntu channels. Like "Try your #ubuntu-es, -de, -fr, -pt, -dk and so forth for ubuntu support in your own language"09:51
jipitorethe msp3400 is the module sound?09:51
SeveasLasseL, the topic is not large enough for all of them :)09:51
LasseLSeveas, still you could shorten them like I did09:51
BrianB04Got kind of a stupid question: Is the kernel that installs by default in Ubuntu tweaked in any way, or is it a typical debian kernel image?09:52
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john_wanna play pong?09:52
john_|.09:52
john_|   .09:52
john_|     .09:52
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anacroni installed nvidia drivers to my other computer, and now when it boot's up i can only get white screen and i can't do anything, it totaly hung's up there, i can't use even ctrl+alt+f1, so what should i do now?09:52
john_|09:52
speellol09:52
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john_:(09:52
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KamiVIPhey09:52
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speelwoo some one is kick happy09:52
rob_newbieE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)09:52
rob_newbieE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?09:52
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thoreauputicrob^: are you using sudo?09:53
KamiVIP./charset windows-125009:53
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rob_newbiewhat do I do I tried "su" and changing to root09:53
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calamaricool.. menu-editor shows all my old menu stuff09:53
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thoreauputicrob_newbie: no, use sudo09:53
anacronrob_newbie: use sudo and then command09:53
thoreauputic!rootsudo09:53
ubotufrom memory, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo09:53
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thoreauputicrob_newbie: it want your password, not a root password, BTW09:54
thoreauputic*wants09:54
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aceb747hey, just installed ubuntu here09:54
rob_newbieOhh Kaaa09:54
zAo^welcome aceb747 :D09:54
rob_newbieLOL09:54
rob_newbieFun Fun09:55
KamiVIPam i got some big problems. When i try to install different applications like Quanta i get message that e.g Quanta depends on some others packages (about 8 other packages) but they cant be installed. If i try to install some of those packages which are listed above most of them will depend on some more packages and i will get same message when ill try to install it (xxx depends on xxx package but it cant be installed) any solutions? because i09:55
KamiVIPcant install most of the software09:55
noxaceb747, congradulations :P09:55
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aceb747thanks nox09:55
moikehey09:55
thoreauputicKamiVIP: your sources are stuffed09:55
moikewhat is the ubuntu ppc channel?09:55
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KamiVIPhow can i rapir them?09:55
KamiVIPi tried with apt-get clean09:55
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rob_newbieThank You all09:55
noxaceb747, if you have problems, we are all here for you :) also www.ubuntuforums.org and www.ubuntuguide.org09:56
KamiVIPand then update again but i get same message09:56
linuksoKamiVIP: are you using backport?09:56
rob_newbieLOL09:56
thoreauputicKamiVIP: you need to fix your /etc/apt/sources.list09:56
KamiVIPyes09:56
thoreauputicKamiVIP: apt-get clean does something else entirely09:56
KamiVIPi use backports09:56
drkstarhi, i just installed ubuntu. I think it is recognizing my wireless adapter because it's light is on/blinking and it's getting warm.. but is there an app to manage networks, so i can put in the ssid, channel, wep, ect?09:56
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linuksoKamiVIP: are you using the official backports, or from the "old" backports?09:57
thoreauputicKamiVIP: I suggest you comment backports out and do  sudo apt-get update09:57
KamiVIPthats my sources.list file09:57
KamiVIP/etc/apt/sources.list09:57
KamiVIPeh09:57
KamiVIPam09:57
KamiVIPi changed it like its written on ubuntuguide09:57
KamiVIPso thats is09:57
KamiVIPeb http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted09:57
KamiVIPdeb-src http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted09:57
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KamiVIPdeb http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe09:57
KamiVIPdeb-src http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe09:57
KamiVIPdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted09:57
KamiVIPdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted09:57
linuksonot here..! arg, use #flood09:57
thoreauputicKamiVIP: don't paste in the channel, please!09:58
KamiVIPk sorry09:58
mark2410hello i was wondering if any could help09:58
thoreauputic!paste09:58
ubotu[paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text09:58
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Random_Sindromhi mark241009:58
mark2410i cant get a useable display via the live cd ir full install09:58
KamiVIPhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/90509:58
rob_newbieconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH09:58
KamiVIPthats its09:58
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KamiVIPmy sources.list09:58
rob_newbieAny suggestions?09:58
Seveasrob_newbie, sudo aptitude install build-essential09:59
linuksorob_newbie: get build-essential09:59
thoreauputicrob_newbie: sudo apt-get install build-essential09:59
Random_Sindrombuild-essential09:59
thoreauputichheh09:59
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anacronwhy i can't get help like that :<09:59
eyequeueokay, that was "fun"10:00
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eyequeuesomeone just crashed a car into my house10:00
Random_Sindrommark2410: what do you mean "live cd in full install"?10:00
KamiVIPlol10:00
anacron:DDD10:00
mark2410oops that should be or10:00
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ma3xeyequeue, how come that happened?10:00
ma3xeyequeue, are you serious?10:00
anacronwhat did it feel like?10:00
eyequeuetally: car - not drivable buit repairable; house, structurally instact but needs some repairs; ost important: humans okay10:00
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mark2410have tried all resolution options and get the same result each time10:01
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noxeyequeue, what the FSCK?!10:01
eyequeuenox:  yeah really10:01
noxyou live in a one story house?10:01
eyequeuetwo10:01
KamiVIPany ideas then? (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/905 = sources.list)10:01
anacronmark2410: did you try doing it with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or what?10:01
raDeonLMAO HE SAID FSCK10:01
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noxraDeon, no swearing in the channel :P10:02
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linuksoKamiVIP: try this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/90610:02
mark2410i did well not in root though10:02
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eyequeuecan't really attribute the cause to anything other than "elderly woman driving" i guess10:02
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eyequeueshe didn't ave a medical incident or anything that caused it, i checked10:02
KamiVIPthanks gonna try it10:02
mark2410it went throught the process fine but in the end x just refused to start10:02
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eyequeueoh well, keeps the day interesting ;)10:02
linuksoKamiVIP: ah, sorry one little error!10:03
depraveconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check10:03
KamiVIPoh10:03
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thoreauputicdeprave: sudo apt-get install build-essential10:03
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KamiVIPwhats the error?10:03
depravethanks brotherman10:03
raven3x7hey guys im trying to compile a pckage. but im getting an error in .configure . can anybody help out10:03
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linuksojust, updated. its http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/90710:03
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KamiVIPthanks10:03
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linuksoKamiVIP: that should resolve some of you dep.errors...10:04
KamiVIPso i just replace mirros in sources.list and i do apt-get update ?10:04
noxKamiVIP, whats the problem?10:04
linuksoyes10:04
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linuksoits the same, just changed the backport mirror to the official10:04
KamiVIPk10:05
KamiVIPam nox10:05
KamiVIPam i got some big problems. When i try to install different applications like Quanta i get message that e.g Quanta depends on some others packages (about 8 other packages) but they cant be installed. If i try to install some of those packages which are listed above most of them will depend on some more packages and i will get same message when ill try to install it (xxx depends on xxx package but it cant be installed) any solutions? because i10:05
KamiVIPcant install most of the software10:05
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raven3x7configure: error: Library requirements (libgnomeui-2.0) not met; consider adjust but libgnomeui exist although it 2.10.0 in ubuntu10:05
noxKamiVIP, there are packages that can`t work with other packages installed10:06
thoreauputicMarkShuttleworth: nice nick ;) only he doesn't use that one ;-)10:06
MarkShuttleworthhar har10:06
fredforfaenKamiVIP had the same trouble after i installed a bad pkg...i had to reinstall...but im a noob so dont listen to me10:06
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ubuntu_jhdjhasd10:06
ubuntu_jkqejkqwermads10:06
KamiVIPwell message says that application depends on some x libs which cant be installed10:06
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dArtagnansome? always be exact :)10:06
raven3x7KamiVIP, are you using marillat or backports10:06
noxKamiVIP, use screem instead of quanta10:06
noxraven3x7, marillat is for debian10:07
KamiVIPmy sources.list10:07
KamiVIPhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/90410:07
raven3x7nox i know10:07
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imperhej10:07
KamiVIPanother guy said i should use this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/90710:07
linuksoimper: hey10:07
raven3x7anybody experienced with solving ./configure errors?10:08
nickrudKamiVIP, I like the new list :)10:08
linuksoraven3x7: yes10:08
cafuegoraven3x7: Such as? What are you compiling?10:08
topyliraven3x7: more than enough :)10:08
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BockBilbohey10:08
linuksoautoconf is my middle name...10:08
KamiVIPit works with new sources.list10:08
KamiVIPthanks all:)10:08
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linuksoKamiVIP: np10:08
drkstaris there an app to manage wireless networks that comes with ubuntu?10:08
raven3x7cbrpager its for viewing cbr comic books10:08
cafuegodrkstar: The network util in the gnome top panel, in theory.10:09
linuksojust paste the error in pastebin, and we'll see if we can help you10:09
drkstarcafuego: thanks10:09
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raven3x7KamiVIP, your troubles were probably caused by backports10:09
KamiVIPoh10:10
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KamiVIPcorrupted files there?10:10
BockBilboi have a problem with the name of some files i have on my system. They are encoded in a wrong way and nautilus doesnt show up the correct characters for .... anyone knows if there is a tool for fixing all the name of the wrong files?10:10
raven3x7http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/90810:10
BockBilbo(so i dont have to search for them and fix them manually)10:11
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cafuego!find libgnomeui10:11
MarkShuttleworthseveas your fired10:11
cafuegoraven3x7: libgnomeui-dev10:11
linuksoraven3x7: sudo aptitude install libgnomeui-dev10:11
raven3x7KamiVIP, no some backports may screw up dependencies due to installing newer packages10:11
raven3x7stupid me10:12
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raven3x7thanks btw10:13
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thoreauputicSeveas: a little harsh for a harmless prank, surely ? ;)10:13
deprave*** exact error that occurred. This usually means GLIB is incorrectly installed.configure: error:10:14
deprave*** GLib 2.0 is required to build Gaim; please make sure you have the GLib10:14
Raf99hey everyone.  does FAQ cover installing nvidia linux drivers ? or can someone please help.10:14
thoreauputic!drivers10:14
ubotudrivers is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto10:14
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ma3xyo10:15
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ma3xphukers10:15
ma3xhow to install gstreamer10:15
topylideprave: you need the development package. anyway, why are you building gaim when there are packages already?10:15
raven3x7ma3x, gstreamer is installed by default10:15
depravetopyli : it's gaim-VV10:15
topyliah10:15
Raf99thanx ubotu.10:15
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linuksoma3x: user synaptic from System->Admin menu10:16
depravei installed build-essential10:16
deprave=-(10:16
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topylideprave: glib-dev or similar10:16
ma3xlinukso, what's the package name dood?10:16
linuksodeprave: you need lots of -dev-packages... just start searching10:16
depravethis is a lot of work to see irc girl boobies on gaim!10:17
topylima3x: how about you search for gstreamer0.810:17
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thoreauputicdeprave: apt-get build-dep gaim might help10:17
depravethis is gaim-vv tho10:17
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depravebecause Razor-X went to go build me a plugin and he never did!10:18
linuksodeprave: if you dump the entire output of ./configure in pastebin, it would help a lot.10:18
topylideprave: might help still :)10:18
cefxQuestion.  Why can't Ubuntu find 90% of the packages that are mentioned in the Ubuntu Guide?10:18
psychonatewhat is gaim-VV?10:18
thoreauputicdeprave: yeah - I just thought it might get some deps for you10:18
Raf99when installing linux driver (which is a simple sh "file"), its telling me to exit X-server.  Is this implying to exit the GUI and be at a root terminal ?10:18
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cafuegocefx: Do you have universe and mltiverse anbled in sources.list?10:18
PurpleMotionpsychonate:  it's a version of gaim that supports msn voice and video, and aims to support them for yahoo and aim as well10:18
linuksocefx: because ubuntuguide is not an official part of the ubuntu distro...10:18
holycowRaf99, yes, but ... what is the driver for?10:18
holycownvidia drivers maybe?10:18
thoreauputiccefx: because you haven't configured your sources correctly10:18
rob_ltpsychonate:  doesn't google work for you?10:18
psychonatePurpleMotion, sounds complicated heh10:18
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holycowif its nvidia drivers, use the ubuntu packages, it will make your life a lot easier10:18
topylicefx: because you haven't enabled all the repositories that the guide assumes. also, the guide might just as well be incorrect10:19
cefxcafuego, ah!\10:19
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raven3x7cefx what packages you mean?10:19
cafuego!repos10:19
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:19
psychonaterob_lt, no, it doesn't, but I can still manage to find assholes heh10:19
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Raf99holycow, just the linux driver from nvidia site for geforce2mx i got here.10:19
PurpleMotionpsychonate:  yeah, but if they get it working, it will surplant everything as the best messenger program in existance :)10:19
psychonatefunny how that works10:19
sraviIs it possible to gain a remote "tty" session, or only locally (not pts)?10:19
rob_ltpsychonate:  heh10:19
Razor-Xwhat are the processors that support mmx2?10:19
Distro^Junkiecan i update to the new kubuntu version from the old cd ? or is it best to download the new one ?10:19
raDeonLMAO "TTY"10:19
cefxduh10:19
raven3x7cfx you may need to add srepositories to your souces.list10:19
PurpleMotionRazor-X:  everything from p-3 on10:19
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depraveand i can see irc girl's boobies!10:19
cefxSorry guys :) I seem to suffer from a kind of retardation :P10:19
Razor-XPurpleMotion: how 'bout SSE ?10:19
[set] does anyone know how to run the setup files of a linux distro cd after booted from floppy and are in this position now boot10:19
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psychonatePurpleMotion, I didn't even know they were using voice and video nowadays in messengers :(10:19
[set] the cd wouldn't boot, so i did the floppy boot and now i am at boot: i dont have linux installed on that harddrive, but i do have the cd with setup.. how do i proceed?10:19
PurpleMotiondunno, same i think10:19
rob_ltpsychonate:  well, I guess I can excuse you if google is not working for you, otherwise I would think you were just lazy and wasting people's time10:19
f_newtonya know, the more I use ubuntu the more I like it...10:20
PurpleMotionpsychonate:  for some time now10:20
cafuegoRaf99: That driver is already in ubuntu, don't install nvidias .run file.10:20
depraveRazor-X : where is my plugins for gaim slacker?! =>10:20
uber_newberRazor-X: i typed in hotplug and nuthing happend10:20
raven3x7Raf99, why dont u use the ubuntu driver?10:20
Razor-XraDeon: the abbreviation ``tty'' has been there almost as girls have10:20
Razor-Xdeprave: meh10:20
Razor-Xuber_newber: try and mount it after that10:20
Raf99ok.  thanx for clearing the confusion cafuego.10:20
psychonaterob_lt, I'm just lazy and wasting people's time. I hope that makes you feel better.10:20
uber_newberRazor-X: how do i do that10:20
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PurpleMotionthat just confused me more... why would you not use the official nvidia driver?10:20
f_newtonwell it makes ME feel better10:21
catolhis it possible to get the CVS version of aMSN to dock in systray?10:21
sraviSo is it possible to start a TTY session onther than CTRL-ALT-F1/2/3.. ?10:21
vpalleHello there, how do I make my PATH setting available for alle gnome apps ??10:21
Razor-Xuber_newber: try ''sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1 & sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1''10:21
uber_newberk10:21
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bartekphi10:21
Raf99PurpleMotion, guessin just like windows, the default driver that comes with ubuntu will do the trick.10:21
Razor-Xsravi: those are the historic shortcuts, you can probably configure X to do something about that10:21
psychonateI don't see what's wrong with asking a simple question like "What is <program>?" If I wanted an in-depth answer and a place to download from, then I would google it.10:21
cafuegoPurpleMotion: Beacuse it's unpackaged; you can't manage what it does via the package tools. Also, precompiled is far easier.10:21
cafuegoPurpleMotion: It's not as if Ubuntu uses an _older_ driver or anything.10:22
PurpleMotionRaf99:  there's a big difference between 'will do the trick' and 'is optimized and will run wondefully'10:22
PurpleMotioncafuego:  ah10:22
sraviRazor-X, what I am asking is if it is safe to say that if the session is "tty", as opposed to "pts", that it can be considered secure and did not come in over the network10:22
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depraveliglib 2.0 is installed =-/10:22
Raf99PurpleMotion - yes.10:22
rob_ltpsychonate:  what's "wrong" with that is that it floods this channel with useless chatter that could otherwise be solved with a 3 second google, and other people's legitimate questions might be missed.10:23
depravePurpleMotion : operation gaim-vv failure10:23
drkstarhi, i can't get my wireless internet working. It recognizes the adapter, it's listed in the device manager, the adapter is also working because its on and the light is solid, indicating it's connected to something. The problem is it isn't getting internet access, and it is connected to a network.but not my own because i have wep on and don't know where to put in my password or network info. Under networks it's connected to someone elses 10:23
PurpleMotiondeprave:  eh10:23
cafuegoPurpleMotion: The "unoptimised" ubuntu one is compiled for stability by people with over a decade of experience. Your self-compiled one isn't ;-)10:23
vpallehow does one change gnomes $PATH ?10:23
Raf99cafuego - if I did want to install a updated driver though, how would I exit X server todo this installation properly? ( will I ever need to ? )10:23
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calamarinote on smeg.. it requires python-xdg >= 0.14, but the latest version is 0.9-1, so it won't install10:23
PurpleMotioncafuego:  i have an ati card, and i use the r128 driver, so NEENER NEENER10:23
Amaranthcalamari: use the install script10:23
psychonaterob_lt, well, from scrolling up, I can see that you were extremely busy helping people in the last few minutes, so I apologize if I distracted you from further helping people. In fact, I think you have caused more spam in the channel from complaining and making me retort than I did when I asked one simple question.10:24
cafuegoRaf99: When nvidia release a new one, it will e added to Ubuntu a short while later. No need for manual intervention.10:24
uber_newbercan sum1 help my install my toshiba usb fdd kit on my toshiba tecra 8000 processor 2 laptop10:24
Amaranthcalamari: If you install it any other way I don't support it.10:24
sraviSo a "tty" session can be considered secure?10:24
cafuegoPurpleMotion: My mighty radeon 9200 trumps you!10:24
PurpleMotionI'm just saying there's nothing wrong with installing your own if you want to :D10:24
Raf99thanx for your help cafuego :)10:24
PurpleMotioncafuego:  yeah i have a really shitty 16mb ati rage pro 128 ultra10:24
cafuegoPurpleMotion: Yeah, the G3 has one of those too.10:24
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PurpleMotioncafuego:  i *had* a 9500 pro 128m w/9700 pro bios10:25
sravisravi, :-(10:25
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raven3x7cafuego i dont think nvidia driversget updated10:25
cafuegoraven3x7: They do :-)10:25
cefxcafuego, no! My mighty 9600 trumps you!10:25
cefx:P10:25
cefxnon pro, even!10:25
cefxlol10:26
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PurpleMotionmy 9700 decimated all10:26
raven3x77174 is still the one in the repos unless apt detects my card and doesnt show me the newer ones10:26
f_newtonoy  the vidcard wars are gonna replace the distro wars eh?10:26
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cefxI hope Cedega works.10:26
Amaranthcefx: A 9250 would be better than a 9500 :P10:26
cafuegoYour canadian trash is no match for my toys10:26
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PurpleMotionit did YEEExHAWxUNF10:26
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cefx960010:26
calamariAmaranth: ahh, didn't see the script.. I was trying the .deb.. thanks10:26
cefx:P10:26
thoreauputicf_newton: nothing will ever replace the editor wars, though ;-)10:26
fredforfaendamn i like ubuntu , must be one of the best distros out there......im impressed10:26
f_newtoncafuego, canadian trash?10:26
aceb747i am not able to do an apt-get for gstreaner0.8-lame and i updated the repositores.... is there something I am missing?10:26
Amaranthcefx: no, 9250 is the best ATI available10:26
cafuegof_newton: ati10:26
PurpleMotionim gonna go play with my childrens now10:27
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f_newtonyou are so right thoreauputic10:27
PurpleMotionbye10:27
yuvalHi, I'm getting multiple 'dhclient3' process when connecting and disconnecting the network cable, which leads to lost dns server entries.. Has anyone experienced anything similar?10:27
WebMavenHi folks. I think I set up my mouse wrong when I installed the system. How do I go back and do that portion of the setup again?10:27
raven3x7my might TNT1 card... oh well...10:27
cafuegofredforfaen: Yeah, too bad about its users, though.10:27
f_newtoncafuego, ya know... well no.. I am gonna refrain ...10:27
cefxAmaranth, heh10:27
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Amaranthcefx: the 9250 is the latest card with open source 3d drivers10:27
fredforfaencafuego what about them?10:27
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f_newtonI have a 925010:27
cafuegofredforfaen: Well, just _look_ at f_newton ;-)10:27
f_newtonin my home box10:27
Amaranthcefx: although they are working on r30010:28
fredforfaenhehe i get your point10:28
Razor-Xmplayer is compiling10:28
uber_newbercan sum1 help my install my toshiba usb fdd kit on my toshiba tecra 8000 processor 2 laptop10:28
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Amaranthcefx: which iirc would be up to 980010:28
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f_newtonso cafuego what third world country are you insulting people from?10:28
depraveHELP ME! ----> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/90910:28
cafuegoouch! rsync cron bring pain! must! not! lag!10:28
yuvaland the network-admin just drives me crazy.. :(10:28
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cafuegof_newton: Uh, cookies?10:29
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depravei want cookies please10:29
cefxAmaranth, nice!10:29
cefxAmaranth, my kernel is 2.6.10-5-386...is there one that I ought to upgrade to?10:29
MANOWAR^ok I am attempting to use an Active Directory for my authentication10:29
depraveAmaranth your nickname looks incredibly familiar10:29
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MANOWAR^i have kerberos setup and it works fromt he command line10:30
Amaranthcefx: yeah, so far it only kinda works, can potentially break your card, and is agp only10:30
cafuegodeprave: You're missing a few -dev packages10:30
Amaranthdeprave: i'm on gimpnet10:30
MANOWAR^while logged in as root i can call upon an AD user and get it to authenticate10:30
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cefxheh10:30
Firetecharen't there deb's for OO.o 2 beta somewhere (real deb's, not the alien rpm to deb script from Evolutioncolt)10:30
MANOWAR^but now I am tryaing to configure PAM so I can login with that AD user from the command line10:30
depravecafuego : what do you suggest i do10:30
cafuegodeprave: Like libglib-*dev10:30
rob_ltuber_newber:  what isn't working.  What does dmesg say when you plug it in?  Is the module being loaded?  Please provide more info.10:30
cefxAmaranth, what are the drivers for linux like that ATI makes?10:30
f_newtonI dont think my video card is set up to read "millions of colors"  is there a setting I can check for that?10:30
MANOWAR^http://pastebin.com/327811 <-- this is what my system-auth looks like10:30
Raf99ahh ctrl+alt+backspace got me to the terminal.  forgt about that10:30
flodineanyone can help with openbox10:30
Amaranthcefx: I dunno, they don't support my card.10:30
cafuegodeprave: apt-cache search silc | grep -- -dev10:30
cefxpewp10:30
cefxthey have one for the radeon family10:31
cafuegodeprave: and same for libglib10:31
cefxhttp://www.freewebs.com/wickkidda/38116174_l.jpg10:31
depraveok im installing -dev 2.0 now10:31
depravevia synaptic10:31
Amaranthcefx: not for the 700010:31
WebMavenCan anyone help with my mouse setup? I need to do it again without reinstalling the whole machine.10:31
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cefxah10:31
cafuegoWebMaven: The mosue steup in X?10:31
cefxAmaranth my heart goes out to you!10:31
cefx:P10:31
WebMavencafuego: yes.10:31
cafuegoWebMaven: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:31
uber_newberrob_lt: i dunno whats not workin and what is, i just wanna install it. and how do i find it in dmesg10:32
Amaranthcefx: I accept donations of hardware and cash for hardware. ;)10:32
cefxhaha well I have an old 750010:32
f_newtonAmaranth, where are you?10:32
cefxif I get a new card, I'll send you my 9600 :)10:32
Amaranthf_newton: iowa10:32
f_newtonI am getting rid of a lot of old hardware... I may have some you can have10:32
cefxprivate ryan!10:32
topyliAmaranth: you should be able to bum your way to an old matrox pretty easily10:32
rob_ltuber_newber:  well, dmesg is a command that you can run that shows kernel messages.  When you plug in the usb device, and then type dmesg in a terminal, it should show that you machine recognizes the device.10:33
f_newtonwould ya like a couple of pro servers maybe?10:33
topyliAmaranth: they're the best cards :)10:33
Amaranthf_newton: I accept all free things. :)10:33
WebMavencafuego: I trhink I chose the wrong mouse during setup.10:33
Amaranthtopyli: for 2D, sure10:33
cefxHey!10:33
f_newtonwell I will see how much it costs to ship these heavy puppies...10:33
cefxI accept freebies too10:33
kleggasIm trying to share my internet to my laptop using 2 network cards in my server....eth0 connects to the net, and eth1 is supposed to share it....eth1 has ip 192.168.0.1, submask 255.255.255.0, gateway is the IP of eth0, and then I use on my laptop an IP 192.168.0.34 and submask 255.255.255.0 and gateway is 192.168.0.1 wich is the ip of servers eth1.....I can ssh to the server, ping it, but I can't get out on the net from the laptop...anyone h10:33
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cefxI need a new old linux box10:33
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topyliAmaranth: oh yeah, there's this 3d thing too, i've heard of it ;)10:33
uber_newberrob_ly: k i plugged it in and did dmesg and got a bunch of stuff. how do i find it in dmesg10:33
cefxkleggas, do you have a crossover cable to connect directly to the laptop?10:33
RQhey] 10:33
RQX still broken, eh? ;D10:34
LeeColletoncefx: I need an old new linux box, maybe we can trade10:34
kleggascefx: no, I use switch10:34
cafuegoWebMaven: The command I gave you should bring up the entire configuration dialog again.10:34
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f_newtonwe just had a church group from iowa visit us Monday10:34
_icebreaker_is there a tutorial to use 2 monitors on a dualheaded nvidia card?10:34
cafuegof_newton: Free food, nice.10:34
Locutus266Hello folks, I just installed ubuntu, but I can't seem to login as root. Is there some kind of default password for root account?10:34
kleggasLocutus266: there is no, use sudo10:34
thoreauputic!root10:34
cafuegoLocutus266: No, the root account is disabled by default.10:34
ubotuI heard root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo10:34
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Locutus266Thanks10:35
kleggasLocutus266: or you could type "sudo su" then enter your default acount passwd, and you are root...then change root passwd, but why? just use sudo10:35
rob_ltuber_newber:  also, I think that is a scsi device, so doing an "lsmod" should show the proper scsi modules being loaded.  You could try mounting the device.  It should show up as /dev/sda or something like that.10:35
f_newtonyes cafuego we handed out enough free food to feed nearly 500 people10:35
deprave*** GTK+ 2.0 is required to build Gaim; please make sure you have the GTK+10:36
depravejebus!10:36
crimsundeprave: apt-get build-dep gaim10:36
depravedemanding software10:36
cafuegof_newton: Deary me, how fat were they?10:36
Locutus266Is there a way to reactivate the root account? I feel godlike today10:36
kleggascefx: why did you ask about the crossover cable? does it make any difference if I use that instead of the switch? I mean, does it need to be setup different in the network settings?10:36
f_newtoncafuego I run a street feeding homeless ministry ...these people are starving10:37
kleggasLocutus266: yes, allready told u10:37
topyliLocutus266: open a root terminal from the menu10:37
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sklpLucutus266: why would u want to activate root?10:37
WebMavencafuego: can I do that from a terminal window, or should I do it from a tty session?10:37
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Locutus266I don't know. I love being root.10:37
sklphttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:37
Locutus266That's not for discussion, either :)10:37
anacronLocutus266: sudo -i does same thing10:38
sklpwell just type "sudo -s" type in your password and u are essentially root10:38
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Locutus266Well, maybe I should read the man page10:38
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Locutus266thanks anyway10:38
levanderEmail I'm sending to my root user is going to my isp's root user.  Anybody know why this is?10:38
kleggasLocutus266: "sudo su" enter your passwd, now you are root....type "passwd" and enter a root passwd10:38
anacronsudo -s is bad (c) seveas10:38
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Seveassudo -i is better10:39
f_newtonwaht is the -i flag?10:39
Seveas-s but with reset $HOME and $USER10:39
Seveasand you really want that...10:39
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thoreauputiclevander: you have entered your ISP's domain as your own? Dunno...10:39
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sklpSeveas: not in all cases :D10:39
aceb747does anyone know why w32codec is not included in the deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted repository?10:39
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Seveassklp, name one...10:40
thoreauputicaceb747: could be because it's w32codecs (plural)10:40
levanderthoreauputic: entered that where?10:40
drkstardoes ubuntu install python-gnome2-extras, python-gtk, and python-gnome2 on install?10:40
psychonateaceb747, you can get them easily from mplayer's site. Need a link?10:40
aceb747Seveas, that didnt do it10:40
Seveasdrkstar, apt-cache sepends ubuntu-desktop will tell you :)10:40
drkstarSeveas: ok, thank you10:41
thoreauputiclevander: I mean did you use your ISP's domain when you installed, so that root became root@your.ISP.com ? Just guessing really10:41
Seveasaceb747, w32codecs10:41
psychonateaceb747, I think there is only a dummy package for w32codecs. You have to actually install the real codecs yourself.10:41
Seveaswith an s at the end10:41
psychonateSeveas, isn't it only a dummy package?10:41
Seveaspsychonate, w32codecs?10:42
psychonateyeah10:42
Seveasnope10:42
f_newtonthe win 32 codecs is a 12 meg tarball10:42
aceb747psychomate, the instructions online are saying to use apt-get10:42
drkstarif my wireless adapter is recognized, how can i connect to my network? is there an app?10:42
aceb747can someone with this codec send me there sources.list?10:42
psychonateah, I guess it's not10:42
levanderthoreauputic: do I have to create an email box for the root user?  Email sent to my local user name, I receive okay.10:42
vpalleanybody how how I can change gnome's $PATH ?10:43
vpalleknow10:43
thoreauputiclevander: it should have been created for you10:43
linuksolevander: email to root will be sent to you admin user.10:43
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depravewhat command do i use to check how much data is in a directory in gb10:43
thoreauputiclevander: I seem to recall you can configure postfix to send all root's mail to your box10:43
nickrudlevander, is mail to yourself (no domain) being sent through the isp?10:44
linuksolevander: check out /etc/aliases10:44
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yuvaldeprave: du -sh <dirname>10:44
vpalledeprave, du -h10:44
topyliaceb747: mine: http://siltala.net/comp/sources.list -- i got the codecs from the marillat repository. don't use his binaries otherwise10:44
depravethanks10:45
thoreauputicvpalle: I think maybe you are asking the wrong question: if you mean "Where is the global system PATH set I seem to recall it is in /etc/bash.bashrc10:45
aceb747topyli, this is the dvd::rip repository... right?10:45
topyliaceb747: i guess he has it too. his binaries just might not work on ubuntu10:46
lamontthoreauputic: it autoconfigs to send root email to uid 1000's name10:46
vpallethoreauputic, thx.. and gnome respects that? it doesnt reset it..10:46
lamontat install, that is10:46
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topyliaceb747: i'd use the sources from his repository and build packages locally, except for stuff like codecs10:46
Locutus266Does anybody know why the totem player won't work? It wouldn't even start. It just says "resource in use or unavailable"10:46
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thoreauputicvpalle: not as far as I know - it works here10:47
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thoreauputiclamont: right - root's mail goes to the first user (the one who has sudo rights)10:47
aceb747topyli, it looks like this repository is going to help my setup with alot more than just the codecs.... thank you10:47
lamontthoreauputic: and it's just an entry in /etc/aliases10:47
vpallethoreauputic, thx10:47
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topyliaceb747: as long as you're lucky and the packages work. fiddling with sarge and etch sources might work some of the time10:48
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topyliaceb747: source packages of course work almost always10:48
nickrudI've had that problem :) thoreauputic's idea of the isp's domain as the mail domain was my problem.10:49
aceb747topyli, if this dont work then i will prob go to the source10:49
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vpallethoreauputic, its /etc/profile though ;)10:49
sexcopter8000mcan anyone suggest a programme for stringing together some jpegs into a video clip?10:50
topyliaceb747: just enable christian's deb-src line and build with apt. it's easiest10:50
_icebreaker_how can i use 2 displays under ubuntu?10:50
aceb747topyli, ok.... i thought it was the mallirats10:50
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python_sexcopter: I think Gimp can do that for you10:51
topyliaceb747: yes, christian marillat :)10:51
aceb747topyli, i see there the same :)10:51
topyliyep10:51
f_newtongimp makes animations from stills but I dont think its a video editor10:51
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python_depends what we define what a video is though10:53
f_newtonI am not sure if there is a tool in linux to do that readily available10:53
python_a video in truth is many moving images10:53
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python_what output do you need for this video10:53
f_newtonpython_, I dont think he is worried about the philosophy of video10:53
f_newtonI think he wants to join clips together to make a flowing video10:54
levanderlinukso: actually, /etc/aliases has root aliased to my local user name10:54
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python_sexcopter: what file ouput wld u like from your images10:54
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DrFalkenhi people!10:54
raDeonhi!10:54
Bubbling_Zombiehello10:54
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raDeonwhat's up my friend from argentina10:55
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f_newtonsome say mythtv will do that sexcopter8000m but I dont know myself10:55
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DrFalkeni've recently installed the artwiz-fonts from deb, but they doesn't appear in some gnome font lists, but they appear in xfontsel10:56
DrFalkenand... i want to use them in fluxbox10:56
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linuksolevander: wasn't that what you wanted?10:58
python_sexcopter: have a look at an app could kino10:58
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aceb747topyli, it is not letting me do an update because I dont have a debian PUBKEY10:58
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=== Razor-X thinks MPlayer takes ages to compile
DrFalkenany suggestion to that???10:59
topyliaceb747: the update still works. if it bothers you, you can get his key from the site10:59
=== linukso thinks it doesn't if you've compiled ooffice on a laptop :D
Razor-Xlinukso: hah!11:00
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xavgentoo > debian > ubuntu > fedora > mandriva > arch11:00
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black13where would i find the source packages for unbuntu11:00
Razor-XI had to use Open Office for a Spreadsheet, it's faster than Word, but I have now seen just how slow WYSIWYG office stuf is ;)11:00
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levanderlinukso: i was saying it works for my regular user, but not for the root user11:00
Razor-Xblack13: ary source package would work11:00
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equexcould some one point me in the right direction with kubuntu (tried the chan) ? i lost my keyboard layouts and i am not able to add new layouts (only english available) and it seems KDE doesnt recognize my keyboard either (thogh i configured it as pc104 in x)11:00
Razor-Xthere's no ``Ubuntu specific'' thing when you compile it11:00
black13ary?11:01
black13or any11:01
linuksolevander: any reason you want to send mail as root?11:01
Razor-Xequex: hmmm11:01
sexcopter8000mhi, sorry, went afk a mo11:01
DrFalkenraDeon: the things someone knows watching the hostnames, no?11:02
Razor-Xequex: i'm googling for you11:02
equexi was running ATI's config to set up X though11:02
sexcopter8000myeah, well i took some pictures using an intervalometer, and i want to string them into a video11:02
python_sexcopter: Use kino i think the package will be ideal for what you need11:02
sexcopter8000mlike they do in the nature programmes11:02
sexcopter8000mok cool, is it fairly self explanatory?11:02
Razor-Xequex: try ``loadkeys name-of-layout'' where name-of-layout is the name of your keyboard layout11:02
equexdamn11:02
python_Go to the website sexcopter type kino in google11:02
sexcopter8000mkk11:03
sexcopter8000mthanks11:03
linuksoRazor-X: the only "office suite" that works is vim in latex mode and octave for calcs :D11:03
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python_sexcopter: http://kino.schirmacher.de/11:03
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Razor-Xlinukso: I use emacs in LaTeX mode, with emacs-maxima for calculation ;)11:03
raDeonDrFalken, you got a problem with that?11:03
Razor-X(not too different, meh)11:03
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Razor-Xstill, LaTeX spreadsheets.... uggh ;)11:03
equextrying that razor11:04
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DrFalkenraDeon: none... :D, it's nice know ppl who care those lil' details11:04
linuksoRazor-X: heh, cant argue with that :D11:04
Belutzcan i have different wallpaper for each desktop?11:04
linuksoBelutz: you can, at least with fluxbox, but its slooooooooooooooooow11:04
Razor-Xlinukso: I was trying a LaTeX spreadsheet earlier today11:04
Razor-Xtabularx was _ok_, but, I just gave up on it ;)11:04
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Razor-Xthere are some things LaTeX just can't do very well11:04
raDeonDrFalken, :)11:04
Belutzlinukso: can't do it with gnome?11:05
Razor-Xis there some sort of spreadsheet generating language?11:05
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linuksoRazor-X: only made small tables...11:05
linuksoBelutz: nope, dont think so.11:05
topyliBelutz: not with metacity11:05
Razor-Xlinukso: 44 vocab words and their definitions ;)11:05
Razor-Xs/44/42/11:05
Belutzlinukso: ic..11:05
Belutztoo bad11:05
topyliBelutz: with enlightenment you can, and perhaps other window managers that work with gnome11:05
Razor-Xfor a small table, LaTeX is very nice (like a table showing commands and what they do), but a full-blown spreadsheet is real hard11:06
DrFalkenBelutz: if u have lots of RAM... GO ON!!!11:06
Razor-Xis there like, a LaTeX equivalent of a spreadshet generating program, anyone?11:06
wajokkiWhy mp3 files doesent work in ubuntu11:06
linuksoRazor-X: I can imagine...11:06
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f_newtonpython_, actually gimp would do what sexcopter8000m was wanting11:06
Belutztopyli: i was once install enlightenment... how do i activate it?11:06
DrFalken'cause storing multiple wallpapers eats memory... :)11:06
Razor-Xlinukso: can you google for me? (because MPlayer is compiling)11:07
topyliBelutz: killall metacity && enlightenment &11:07
linuksoRazor-X: shure!11:07
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BelutzDrFalken: ic...11:07
Razor-Xthanks!11:07
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wajokkiWhy mp3 files doesent work in ubuntu11:07
topyliBelutz: if you like it, save the session when you log out11:07
Belutztopyli: ic... thx :)11:07
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Razor-XI downloaded all the codecs for MPlayer, so it'l take a while ;)11:07
python_f_newton it probably could, but i feel kino will be more geared to what he wants with added capabilities such as transitions, etc11:07
Raskallwajokki: bacause you havent read www.ubuntulinux.org. :)11:07
pinky2000I've switched to XFCE for my window manager, anyone know how I can 'auto-launch' apps when XFCE starts? For example I'd like to start xfce-calander and vino-server when I log in.11:07
Razor-Xwoohoo!11:08
f_newtonI misunderstood his need11:08
Razor-Xpwnage, it finished11:08
Razor-X573.7 seconds11:08
python_However i must point out to photoshop users (which i once was), i use GIMP all the time and its a great piece of software11:08
thoreauputic!mp311:08
ubotuhmm... mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support11:08
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Razor-Xthat's 9.562 seconds??? ;)11:08
Razor-Xweird, I thought it was more11:08
f_newtonyes it is linux's answer to photoshop11:08
Razor-Xs/seconds/minutes/11:08
Locutus266Somehow my /dev/dsp Device is always in use. No application can play sounds, although those gnome system sounds work11:09
Razor-Xwoohoo!11:09
Razor-Xtime to try out MPlayer11:09
python_f_newton i laways use it at work instead of Photoshop, it takes photoshop 2 hours too load11:09
linuksoRazor-X: http://latexss.sourceforge.net/11:09
Razor-Xlinukso: sounds good from the URL ;)11:09
f_newtonyer being funny, but photoshop is a very good program11:10
linuksodoesn't look that bad either....11:10
python_f_newton it is but i refuse to use proprietry software at home11:10
jowiLocutus266, i had the same problem, especiall with Skype. Solution; turn off sound server at startup (gnome sound settings) + change sound output sink to ALSA11:10
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f_newtonpython_, adobe is the ultimate in propriety software too11:10
Locutus266Thanks, I'll try that11:10
python_And i dont really see much that photoshop can do that GIMP cant do11:10
f_newtonI agree with that11:11
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jowiLocutus266, oh and 'killall esd'11:11
Locutus266what's esd? sound daemon?11:11
Locutus266esound11:11
jowiLocutus266, yeah11:11
Locutus266Is there some kind of runlevel editor (like in suse linux?)11:11
f_newtongotta reboot11:11
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python_If people didnt crack software, then people would have to use open source, i use free software, open source for ethical reasons11:11
jowiLocutus266, it was driving me nuts until i figured it out11:11
thoreauputicLocutus266: esd is the scourge of ubuntu sound configuration ;)11:11
levanderlinukso: I don't want to send mail as root.  I want to send mail to root.  I've got a cron job set up to backup my system. This script has to be run as root.  I don't want the email going to the root user, I never check that email.  And, I certainly don't want that email going to my ISP, as root's email is now.11:12
Locutus266Well, let's see11:12
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Locutus266Wow, it actually works! Thanks11:12
python_Imagine, first you buy win xp, then macromedia suite, then photoshop, illustartor, .net, you upto 4000 already11:12
levanderlinukso: But, apparently, mailing to 'root@localhost' works fine, it's just mailing to 'root' that's not working.11:12
CircleofChaosWhat does this mean: "The channel demigods have stolen your voice"?11:12
thoreauputic!bum11:12
ubotuI don't know, thoreauputic11:12
thoreauputichmm11:12
jowiLocutus266, you are welcome11:12
axylfyrehey all11:12
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Belutzis 800mb too much for /swap ?11:13
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axylfyrecan I get some help installing ubuntu on windows xp? please11:13
thoreauputicCircleofChaos: probably that some channel has you +q - are you registered?11:13
levanderBelutz: it's not out of the ballpark11:13
noxaxylfyre, you can`t "install ubuntu on windows xp"11:14
CircleofChaosWhat is +q?11:14
python_People it is wrong to create class's out of software, and keep secrets, if we want a better computing world with better interoperabilty then we must go this way11:14
axylfyreok11:14
CircleofChaosHow do I register?11:14
axylfyrewhat can you install to do a dual boot?11:14
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thoreauputicCircleofChaos: +q is a mode that silences a user11:14
CircleofChaosI thought all you needed was a nickname.11:14
thoreauputicCircleofChaos:  /msg nickserv help11:14
noxaxylfyre, install ubuntu, and it should automaticly add your windows xp installtion to the grub.11:14
Belutzlevander: ic, because i see my system only use a little space of swap memory11:14
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python_axylfire: just get rid of xp11:14
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axylfyreoh forget it11:15
depraveim deleting stuff with a file manager, is it all going to a trash bin of some sort?11:15
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Belutzaxylfyre: use vmware ?11:15
thoreauputicCircleofChaos:  and /msg nickserv register <nick> <password> IIRC11:15
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shammywooo got xserver working finally11:15
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noxBelutz,  vmware costs money, installing ubuntu is free.11:15
Belutzthoreauputic: what's IIRC stands for?11:16
python_axylefare: You could use Virtual PC too11:16
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levanderBelutz: yeah, people put even more than that in swap, dunno why, I put like 500MB because it was recommended somewhere.  But, if you're every using more than say 100MB, you're system is going to be unbearable slow11:16
Locutus266XMMS works fine now, but Totem Player still won't start (resource busy or not available)11:16
shammyif i recal correctly, Belutz11:16
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Belutznox: i know... just proposing a solution to him11:16
thoreauputicBelutz: If I Remember Correctly  ;)11:16
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python_we should let windows users rot in there own problems11:16
BurgundaviaLocutus266, change to totem-xine11:16
mcphailAny idea why I can't connect to my Apache server from the outside world?11:16
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Belutzi thought IIRC is an IRC client LOL11:16
CircleofChaosThoreauputic, how I can I tell the channel to let me speak again?11:16
python_mcphail: there could be 101 reasons to tht11:17
linuksomcphail: you need a real ip address11:17
hybrid_Belutz:  heh11:17
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mcphailpython_: I think I've tries the 1st 10011:17
shammycould someone help me get my wireless internet up and running? I looked under device manager and the netgear adapter is listed, so it's recognizing it.. what else do I need to do?11:17
CircleofChaosThe channel is #perl.11:17
thoreauputicCircleofChaos: depends - if you are registered normally you can speak in any channel11:17
CircleofChaosI cannot talk in #perl. :(11:17
python_mcphail: Good im glad your trying11:17
Locutus266totem-xine is not available through synaptic is it?11:17
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thoreauputicCircleofChaos: I don't know what #perl's policy is11:17
python_mcphail: Perhaps a forum would be better for that question11:18
vader1102shammy: do you have internet connection?11:18
CircleofChaosWhat is your policy?11:18
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shammyvader1102: available? or on ubuntu11:18
CircleofChaosHow do I become an operator in #perl?11:18
equexRazor-X: i loaded up my keymap but there is no changes anywhere.. i think i need to make it recognize the keyboard *model* first.11:18
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vader1102on ubuntu11:18
Belutzhmmm someone just want to try ubuntu, and maybe he do not know about the live cd and wants to try it, it's better to propose a solution, he might be migrate to ubuntu if he likes it :D11:18
wajokkiwhy mp3 files doeset work11:18
shammyvader1102: No I don't11:18
thoreauputicCircleofChaos: in #ubuntu anyone can speak - within reason :)11:18
Belutzthat's what i thiught11:18
wajokkineed some plugin or something11:18
Razor-Xgah!11:18
Belutz*thought11:18
mcphailpython_: maybe. Just wondered if ubuntu had any quirks that i might be missing11:19
Subliminalwhen i start gaim it tells me my version is out of date, but apt tells me my packages are all up to date, how can i upgrade gaim?11:19
CircleofChaosWhat do you mean?11:19
Razor-Xmy MPlayer's audio and video are out of sync11:19
python_totem-xine is accessable through apt-get11:19
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python_i just tried it11:19
CircleofChaosBy "within reason"?11:19
vader1102shammy: try iwlist scan and tell me if it sees the router11:19
python_you must have your repositories enabled11:19
noxwajokki, because mp3 is a registered patent, and in some countries such as USA it is illegal to use it11:19
thoreauputicCircleofChaos: within the Code of Conduct for Ubuntu11:19
BelutzRazor-X: i uninstalled my MPlayer hehehe, now i just use totem and vlc11:19
jowiRazor-X, you should be able to adjust the sync with z+x buttons if i remember it correctly (i do not use mplayer myself)11:19
thoreauputic!conduct11:19
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, conduct is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view11:19
CircleofChaosIsn't this a free country. Freedom of Speech?11:19
Razor-XBelutz: I use VLC11:20
wajokkiwhat files work?11:20
Razor-Xbut, VLC can't playe H.26411:20
wajokkiin mandrake mp3 files work11:20
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BelutzRazor-X: ic11:20
thoreauputicCircleofChaos: which country? THis is international11:20
noxVLC is another xine based.11:20
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python_Locutus266: Do you need a hand installing totem-xine?11:20
Razor-Xnox: VLC is not xine based11:20
shammyvader1102: it says none of my devices support scanning11:20
noxwajokki, just install xmms-mp3: "sudo apt-get install xmms-mp3"11:20
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python_VLC rocks11:20
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Distro^JunkieAmarok rocks11:21
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vader1102ok, then you will need to google ubuntu and your wireless card11:21
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noxRazor-X, are you sure VLC is not xine based? i heard different from someone11:21
shammyvader1102: even though it is recognized as the right adapter in device manager, that doesn't mean it is set up for internet access though does it?11:21
linuksoshammy: you should take a look in the ubuntu wiki.11:21
Razor-Xnox: 100% sure11:21
vader1102no11:22
Razor-XVLC has it's own engine and plugins ground up11:22
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wajokkiE: Pakettia xmms-mp3 ei lytynyt11:22
linuksoshammy: there is lots of info on supported hardware11:22
python_VLC is not Xine based11:22
CircleofChaosOh, okay. Thank you! How do I tell #perl to let me in again?11:22
vader1102one sec11:22
noxRazor-X, ok :) thank you for the information11:22
wajokkipackage xmms-mp3 doesent found11:22
vader1102shammy: what card is it?11:22
Razor-Xno prob11:22
python_VLC in my opnion is one of the best media players out there11:22
Razor-Xsame here11:22
Locutus266@python_ I never used apt-get before11:22
thoreauputicCircleofChaos: you might want to ask in #freenode, or /msg a freenode staff member11:22
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noxwajokki, sorry, the package is mp3-mad11:23
python_ill help u Locotus26611:23
noxwajokki, sorry, the package is xmms-mad =\11:23
shammylinukso: netgear wg111, it's a usb adapter11:23
python_can i pm u11:23
shammyerr11:23
noxwajokki, sudo apt-get install mp3-mad11:23
Belutztime to hit the bed...11:23
noxwajokki, oops: sudo apt-get install xmms-mad11:23
shammyvader1102: netgear wg111 it;s a usb adapter11:23
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wajokkiokk :D11:23
Locutus266"totem-xine has no installation candidate "11:23
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noxwajokki, xmms-mad - mp3 input plugin for xmms based on libmad11:23
shammysorry about that linukso, didn;t mean to addres you :)11:23
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jowi!resporitories11:23
ubotujowi: I don't know11:24
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linuksoshammy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards11:24
jowi!repository11:24
ubotujowi: Bugger all, i dunno11:24
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thoreauputicLocutus266: totem-xine is in universe11:24
vader1102shammy:http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25387.html11:24
Belutz!repo11:24
ubotuBelutz: Are you smoking crack?11:24
thoreauputic!repositories11:25
ubotuwell, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos11:25
Kev0rgrr how do i get stuff in Ubuntu to mount automatically!?11:25
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Subliminalone of my terminals seems to have gone hyroglyphic after i ctrl^c lynx, how do i get english back?11:25
jowithomerz_, finally: thank you!11:25
Kev0ri'm not using gnome11:25
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aceb747i still cant get w32codecs working....11:25
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jowispelling is a pain sometimes11:25
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thoreauputicSubliminal: try typing  reset  blindly11:25
CircleofChaosThoreauputic, the same thing is happening in #freenode.11:25
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topyliaceb747: you got the package to install ok?11:26
Subliminalthoreauputic: didnt work :-/11:26
CircleofChaosWhat do I do now?11:26
Subliminalthoreauputic: even the prompt is hyroglyphic11:26
topyliaceb747: which player are you using?11:26
CircleofChaos:(11:27
aceb747topyli, i am not using a player yet... it is saying i dont have it in the repository.... but even the ubuntu wiki says that it is there11:27
shammyvader1102: so I need ndiswrapper? does it come with ubuntu or can I get it via synaptic?11:27
Jemtaceb747: Have you added Universe and Multiverse ?11:27
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vader1102you may have to download it from the net and compile it11:28
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_icebreaker_how can i enable twinview with the nv driver?11:28
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aceb747jewt, yes i have hoary main restricted universe multiverse11:28
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ChynphaTbig newb right here, just installed kubuntu and id like if someone can help me figure out how to install stuff and how to navigate with the terminal, or just refer me to some good help pages, help would be greatly appreciated11:29
davehelo11:29
mcphailSubliminal: try typing stty sane [ctrl-J] 11:29
davehello11:29
davenew to linux just trying11:29
CircleofChaosChynphaT,  have you asked that question in #KUBUNTU?11:29
topyliaceb747: enable the marillat unstable repository temporarily and install w32codecs. then disable the repo again11:29
ChynphaToh, no, thanks ill go do that11:29
Subliminalmcphail: it printed pictures at me11:30
thoreauputicCircleofChaos: are you sure the ops in #perl didn't silence you? maybe /msg a #perl op or something11:30
Subliminalmcphail: ahh, it told me [ctrl-j]  was an invalid argument :-/11:30
mcphailSubliminal: try 'return' instead11:31
Razor-Xis my system really too slow for H.264 ?11:31
thoreauputicCircleofChaos: I take it you have now registered?11:31
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Gorth!!11:31
ubotuI heard ! is what u add before a sentence to talk to me11:31
aceb747topyli, it is saying there is no installation canidate11:31
CircleofChaosI did, but then I dropped the nickname.11:31
CircleofChaosIt was useless to talk in #perl when no one listened.11:31
Gorthwhen i try to access my shared folder over a network, it asks for a user, so i made a user "guest"11:31
Subliminalmcphail: as in press enter?11:32
Gorthand set a folder to 77711:32
Gorthand it says unknown username!11:32
topyliaceb747: are sure you ran "apt-get update"?11:32
thoreauputicCircleofChaos: well, this isn't magic -if you change your nick you are no longer recognised11:32
CircleofChaosGorth, are you using Samba?11:32
Gorthyeah11:32
aceb747topli, yes11:32
Gorthcircleofchaos: yeah11:32
mcphailSubliminal:  yes. Sometimes when the terminal screws up enter doesn't work and you have to type ctrl-J instead11:32
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Subliminalmcphail: aah11:32
aceb747topyli, i even added the malliat pubkey11:32
dbernar1Can anyone spare some change?11:32
CircleofChaosGorth, did you create a user for yourself?11:32
CircleofChaos"smbpasswd"11:33
Subliminalmcphail: it seems to work, but in a rather odd language11:33
Gorthhm?11:33
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mcphailSubliminal: ??11:33
jowidbernar1, what currency?11:33
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topyliaceb747: and "apt-get install w32codecs" doesn't work?11:33
CircleofChaosWhen run by root:11:33
CircleofChaos    smbpasswd [options]  [username] 11:33
CircleofChaosotherwise:11:33
CircleofChaos    smbpasswd [options] 11:33
CircleofChaosoptions:11:33
CircleofChaos  -L                   local mode (must be first option)11:33
CircleofChaos  -h                   print this usage message11:33
CircleofChaos  -s                   use stdin for password prompt11:33
CircleofChaos  -c smb.conf file     Use the given path to the smb.conf file11:33
CircleofChaos  -D LEVEL             debug level11:33
CircleofChaos  -r MACHINE           remote machine11:33
CircleofChaos  -U USER              remote username11:33
topyliaceb747: maybe his repositories are just b0rken right now11:33
CircleofChaosextra options when run by root or in local mode:11:33
Subliminalmcphail: like mangled, but when i copied and pasted in here it was in english11:33
CircleofChaos  -a                   add user11:33
CircleofChaos  -d                   disable user11:33
CircleofChaos  -e                   enable user11:33
topyliCircleofChaos: please dude11:33
CircleofChaos  -i                   interdomain trust account11:34
CircleofChaos  -m                   machine trust account11:34
CircleofChaos  -n                   set no password11:34
thoreauputic!lart CircleofChaos11:34
CircleofChaos  -w PASSWORD          ldap admin password11:34
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CircleofChaos  -x                   delete user11:34
CircleofChaos  -R ORDER             name resolve order11:34
LinuxJonesCircleofChaos, omg dude don't paste here11:34
CircleofChaosOops, sorry.11:34
CircleofChaosGorth, that was for you.11:34
CircleofChaosSorry everyone. :(11:34
Gorthhaha11:34
Gorthsorry about that11:34
synd!paste11:34
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text11:34
Gorththanks circle11:34
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aceb747topyli, right.... it is saying no installation canidate.... possibly could be broken11:34
dbernar1jowi: well,  I am hungry. But that is unrelated. Anyhow, I like how there is this Unix lab here at my university, and Sun machines, with gnome on them, pretty nice.11:34
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mcphailSubliminal: sometimes stty sane or reset work. Sometimes they don't. The key is not to ctrl-c less in the 1st place...11:34
thoreauputicCircleofChaos: if you did *that* in #perl, you would never be allowed back, I would say11:34
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CircleofChaosNo.11:34
aceb747topyli, what is the best way to add the debian pubkey.... cause that one might have it11:35
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topyliaceb747: debian doesn't have the codecs for sure11:35
dbernar1CircleofChaos: so you can use that instead of interrupting everyones conversation11:35
thoreauputicCircleofChaos: in many channels that would have been an automatic kick11:35
Subliminalwhen i start gaim it tells me my version is out of date, but apt tells me my packages are all up to date, how can i upgrade gaim?11:35
aceb747topyli, it is also wierd that there not in the ubuntu repo when they say it is in the wiki11:35
dbernar1CircleofChaos: ya, so be careful, and dont paste like that.11:35
CircleofChaosThoreauputic, why?11:35
topyliaceb747: just get the package from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/ :)11:36
SeveasCircleofChaos, NEVER do that again11:36
dbernar1cause you interrupt everyone's conversation11:36
CircleofChaosThank you for giving me a second chance.11:36
CircleofChaos:)11:36
thoreauputicCircleofChaos: you just spammed the channel with a huge paste11:36
dbernar1anyhow, on to more exciting topics11:36
dbernar1hahaha, ubotu urinates on circle of chaos??11:37
dbernar1weird.11:37
dbernar1who made a lart entry?11:37
aceb747topyli, that makes sense.... will be easier this way11:37
topylidbernar1: even bots have feelings :)11:37
topyliaceb747: yeah, then just install it with dpkg -i11:37
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dbernar1radeon is back?11:37
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f_newtonthe more I use ubuntu the happier I am about it...11:38
f_newtonlol11:38
aceb747is there any things i should be aware of with the amd64 that i would not know if i was running i38611:38
Kev0rhow do i start something when booting Ubuntu?11:38
f_newtonalthough I really dont like the name11:38
CircleofChaosWhat does the term "trolling" mean?11:38
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dbernar1CircleofChaos: go check wikipedia, it has a cool entry, if I remember correctly.11:38
SeveasCircleofChaos, it means being obnoxious11:38
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f_newtonCircleofChaos, people who come in a room baiting others pretending to be unknowing11:38
f_newtontrolling so to speak for a response11:38
dbernar1both are approximations of what I think trolling is.11:38
hybrid_anyone know if the D-link DWL-122 works under Ubuntu?11:39
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dbernar1hybrid_: looked at the wiki?11:39
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Kev0rSeveas: How can i start (let's say) gnome-volume-manager when i boot my pc?11:39
LinuxJonesKev0r, do you mean a service ?11:39
hybrid_dbernar1:  nope whats the link?11:39
topyliaceb747: please don't say you're running amd64 :)11:39
aceb747hybrid. is that a router?11:39
vader1102hybrid: I am using the dwl-g650 and working great here11:39
Kev0rLinuxJones: see my question11:39
aceb747topyli, yes i am11:39
dbernar1wiki.ubuntu.com there is a search, and also it is under hardware support11:39
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jowihybrid_, i heard that it use the prism2 driver and should be ok.11:39
Kev0rthe automatic mounting was so easy, just had to apt-get gnome-volume-manager11:39
Kev0r^:|11:39
jowihybrid_, but i'm not 100%11:40
hybrid_jowi:  dbernar1 : thank yall11:40
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topyliaceb747: grr. those repositories are not going to work. i should have asked in the first place i guess :(11:40
dbernar1ya, also, look for a wifi entry, and the ndiswrapper page has a list of working cards.11:40
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LinuxJonesKev0r, go System >> Preferences >> Sessions >> Startup Programs tab11:40
dbernar1LinuxJones: isnt that only gonna start it when he starts gnome??11:41
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Kev0rthat's just for a session, it just needs to boot every time11:41
dbernar1cause I am fairly sure it is.11:41
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Kev0ryes idd, with a gnome session dbernar111:41
MartenHok, I tried this yesterday but got occupied so I'm giving it a new shot today... I am trying to set up my webcam but it won't work. Another cam works fine right away.11:41
tiumhi all,11:41
stevenjcan't believe Google is down11:41
Kev0ri need it to start when Ubu-y boots11:41
thoreauputicCircleofChaos: don't take anything too much to heart - IRC is a strange subculture with it's own netiquette and rules :)11:41
LinuxJonesdbernar1, you can't start gnome-volume-manager in a bash terminal11:41
gardinerI am come here for windows and I would like to see how I eject CD with button if possible ?11:41
tiumIs X really still broken in breezy ?11:41
aceb747topyli, is that why i am not able to find the stuff?11:41
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hybrid_stevenj:  works for me11:42
LinuxJonesdbernar1, but I could be wrong11:42
Kev0rwhy not LinuxJones11:42
dbernar1LinuxJones: go ahead a nd try, I am suure you can11:42
MartenHRight now I think  Ineed to update some drivers and replace the old ones, can someone help me? I have the tar file but need to compile which I'm new to11:42
vader1102me 211:42
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Kev0ri can just run it from an xterm11:42
dbernar1stevenj: it works here.11:42
topyliaceb747: yes. w32codecs are called "32" for a reason :\11:42
stevenjhybrid, interesting....everything works but google.com--then again I am using comcast11:42
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dbernar1other pages load for you?11:42
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LinuxJonesdbernar1, well I jsut assumed that's what he wanted to do using Gnome11:42
dbernar1haha, stevenj...11:42
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Kev0rno LinuxJones11:43
aceb747topyli, should i revert to a i386 installation?11:43
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stevenjdbernar1, I guess comcast is banned from Google now....banned from everything else11:43
dbernar1LinuxJones: cool...11:43
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dbernar1stevenj: just a sec.11:43
topyliaceb747: marillat has a amd64 repository, scroll down at ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html . but there's no w32codecs package11:43
dbernar1dont leave.11:43
hybrid_gothstevenj:  i hate comcast (techtv) the google ig and firefox search works for me11:43
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ixionhi, whats the kerberos package called please? something to do with the number 5? :)11:43
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dbernar1I may be able to fix this for you.11:43
dbernar1can yo uping google?11:43
LinuxJonesKev0r, you want to say run a script or something when your pc boots in general ?11:43
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stevenjI'll try11:43
hybrid_gothyea11:43
slashdevnullHi, all.11:44
Kev0ryes! exactly11:44
dbernar1ixion: did you hear of synaptic's search capabilities?11:44
topyliaceb747: some people run amd64 and run a selection of multimedia 32 bit apps in a chroot jail. i don't know offhand how it's done11:44
hybrid_gothlol11:44
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ixionyes, its showing up kerberos 4 stuff, there was a specific package for kerberos 5 support and its not showing up11:44
linuksotopyli: that might be because there are very few codecs for 64 bit windows :)11:44
dbernar1hm...whats the 4 package called?11:44
topylilinukso: i would imagine so ;)11:45
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stevenjI am unable to ping www.google.com11:45
LinuxJonesKev0r, you can create a custom script and place it in /etc/init.d, make the script executable, then update-rc.d scriptname defaults and it will run when you boot your computer.11:45
ixionwell there are lots of kerberos packages, mentioning the number 411:45
HakonBHhello11:45
dbernar1stevenj: what is the error? timeouts?11:45
thoreauputicixion: apt-cache search krb511:45
dbernar1ixion: I cant find 5 neither.11:46
HakonBHjoin #ubuntubr11:46
jowistevenj, try 216.239.59.99 (since you might have a DNS problem)11:46
hybrid_gothstevenj:  thats weird!11:46
dbernar1thoreauputic: ya that works.11:46
stevenjdbernar1, using ping in network tools...no errors...but a time out it looks like11:46
Kev0rdo i have to type update-rc.d scriptname defaults litterally?11:46
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topyliaceb747: http://snipurl.com/gocm describes building a 32bit chroot on ubuntu, and installing 32bit apps11:47
dbernar1stevenj: please use the terminal:) open a terminal, and type in ping www.google.com and hit enter.11:47
dbernar1name of the script/.....11:47
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topyliaceb747: otherwise, you might want to run the 32 bit ubuntu11:47
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LinuxJonesKev0r, yes sudo update-rc.d scriptname defaults (it will run the script for  runlevels 2-5)11:47
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ixionthoreauputic, dbernar1 - thanks looking11:47
stevenjdbernar1, this is all I see -- PING www.l.google.com (72.14.207.104) 56(84) bytes of data.11:47
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ixionkrb5 is right :)11:47
MartenHSeveas, doing some chan cleanup? :)11:47
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Kev0rok thanks11:48
dbernar1ok, that means timeouts.11:48
stevenjthanks11:48
dbernar1hit ctrl+c to end application11:48
SeveasMartenH, yup11:48
thoreauputicKev0r: where <scriptname> is the name of your script11:48
Seveasshall I clean you out the channel? :)11:48
wajokkixmms doesent work fine when i try play some file it freezing and it must kill11:48
MartenH"To get things running, load the kernel module "ovcamchip" at startup. " how do I do this?11:48
stevenjyes 100% packet loss ;)11:48
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rikvaHi all, my new notebook is arriving this week and I want to install Debian OR (k)Ubuntu on it. I'll only use Ubuntu if I can use the Debian (testing/unstable) repositories. Is that possible?11:48
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SeveasMartenH, sudo modprobe ovcamchip11:48
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dbernar1wajokki: only some files, or all files?11:48
thoreauputicwajokki: in Options Preferences, set the output plugin to esound11:48
Seveasrikva, to a certain extent, but all in there is also in the UBuntu repositories11:49
wajokkiall11:49
stevenjstrange thing is I can get to www.gnome-look.org11:49
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thoreauputicwajokki: see above11:49
MartenHSeveas, ty11:49
rikvaSeveas: Personally I find the standard ubuntu repositories a bit small - for example, it has no airsnort afaik11:49
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Seveasrikva, it has11:49
dbernar1stevenj: did you contact Comcast at all about this?11:49
Seveasrikva, you just need to enable universe11:49
Seveas!info airsnort11:49
ubotuairsnort: (WLAN sniffer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.2.6-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 180 kB11:49
rikvaah! :)11:50
dbernar1!info cokesnort-lol11:50
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Seveasrikva, in fact: ubuntu has more than debian since it pulls from other repos too11:50
ixionbasically, the reason I am asking these krb5 questions is, hi, I have installed a samba server and used winbind to integrate with AD users, this works fine for people on domain member computers using windows. When I use linux to try and connect to the samba share I cant authenticate, any ideas what syntax I am supposed to use for the username? eg user@domain.com etc11:50
rikva!info universe11:50
Seveasixion, try \\domain\user11:50
stevenjdbernar1, no I just got in from work and went to ubunu.com and then gnome-look and so I though google was down haha11:50
MartenHSeveas, will that add it to startup or just launch it for now?11:50
dbernar1rikva: ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components11:50
SeveasMartenH, just for now11:50
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dbernar1stevenj: want me to ask them if there is an outage like that?11:51
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MartenHSeveas, How do I set it up for startup?11:51
Seveasto add to startup: echo ovcamchip | sudo tee -a /etc/modules11:51
MartenHSeveas, ty11:51
rikvaSeveas: I use debian on my workstation, it can also use different repositories... I want to give kubuntu a try because i want up2date packages11:51
stevenjdbernar1, sure thanks11:51
thoreauputicrikva:  !info  only searches for packages as far as I know11:51
dbernar1stevenj: anyhow, known at this time...since there obviously is...11:51
rikvadbernar1: thanks11:51
ixionI've installed krb5, and winbind - does anyone know where I confgure winbind to join a domain and edit the krb5 options?11:51
dbernar1just a sec11:51
Seveasrikva, then give it a try :)11:51
PhuzionHey, how do I update Mozilla without re-installing?11:51
PhuzionFirefox*11:51
stevenjdbernar1, how can you get that information...just curious11:51
jowiixion, with mount -t smbfs or what?11:51
dbernar1hehe...11:52
thoreauputicPhuzion: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox11:52
jowiixion, sorry, did not see the krb5 thing11:52
ixionjowi, I need to use active directory authentication, so before I can mount using samba I need to be able to authenticate11:52
ixionk :)11:52
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aceb747topyli, do you think it is worth it to have the amd64 version?11:52
rikvaok Seveas thanks for the help, i'm heading to my bed11:52
Seveas'night11:52
jowiixion, yeah i realised that. i am not good enough on ad11:52
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cefxHi!11:53
cefxAmaranth, the 2.6.10-5-386 kernel isn't a security risk is it?11:53
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cefxThere's a kiddie crew that regularly tries to root me.11:53
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topyliaceb747: i have no idea. you do have a 64 bit machine so you might want to run it. but some apps (multimedia, games) will require extra work11:53
cefxaceb747, I run regular i386 on my amd6411:54
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cefxIt's good.  Although the amd64 install is way faster :)11:54
Amaranthcefx: i dunno, just use whatever the latest version is11:54
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cefxheh ok11:54
cefxHow do I do that in Ubuntu?11:55
cefx(  ) Linux Ubuntu 5.04 - hoary : 2.6.10-5-386, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 6.8.2 | : X-Chat v.2.4.311:55
topyliaceb747: right now, the thing you need most is a working sources.list instead of mine :)11:55
aceb747cefx, what is your experience of running the amd64 version.  is ia64 any better?11:55
dbernar1stevenj: they dont know about an outage.11:55
cefxaceb747, a little faster but it's not 100% just yet :)11:55
HakonBHalgum do brasil?11:55
cefxAre you going to do a lot of multimedia?11:55
cefxuse i386 if so11:55
cefxit's less heartache11:55
aceb747i think i will go with i386 then11:55
aceb747it is still a new install and easy to change it now rather than later11:56
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dbernar1I suggest that you contact Comcast through Live chat, or 1-888-COMCAST. They will be able to assist you with this, either by getting Google working, or by making an investiugation ticket.11:56
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topylicefx: you have the latest kernel11:56
cefxtopyli: thanks :)11:56
cefxIs it revision 5 or something?11:57
stevenjdbernar1, strange....I get to most things I think....I have'nt changed anything...firestarter is running in the bg with icmp filtering on11:57
cefx2.6.10 is way better than 2.6.12.311:57
topyliaceb747: true, once you customize it furtner you won't want to reinstall11:57
dbernar1stevenj: hey, I know what you should do.11:57
HakonBHwhat about 2.6.11?11:57
dbernar1do tracert www.google.com in a temrinal11:57
topyliHakonBH: it's b0rken11:57
stevenjdbernar1, whats that?11:57
HakonBHfock11:57
cefxHakonBH, most 2.6.* is in active development and all sorts of fucked up.11:57
dbernar1traces wehhre the issue begins.11:57
cefxoops11:57
cefxno cursing :P11:57
noxdbernar1, tracert is for windows, traceroute is for linux :)11:58
HakonBHit's compiling right now11:58
HakonBH2.6.1111:58
HakonBHdamn11:58
dbernar1nox: hah, sorry, thanks.11:58
ChrischiO`GERSooooo...11:58
AmaranthThe 2.6.11 package in hoary universe should _NOT_ be used.11:58
HakonBHoook11:58
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HakonBHi'll stop11:58
AmaranthIt isn't 2.6.11, it's a snapshot from some time after 2.6.1011:58
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topyliHakonBH: your kernel might still work. the ubuntu package is broken11:59
thoreauputicAmaranth: can you think of any good reasons for it to still be there? (2.6.11)11:59
Amaranthyeah, the official kernel.org 2.6.11 should be good11:59
HakonBHok, tomorrow i'm going to try a new compilation with 2.6.1011:59
aceb747lol, u know i reinstalled the ubuntu earlier cause i could not type my root in... LOL... thought it was kind of funny looking back at it11:59
Amaranththoreauputic: it's useful if you know what you're doing and you have hardware that only it supports11:59
dbernar1stevenj: /join #flood and then type this as your message to the channel: /exec -o traceroute www.google.com12:00

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