=== bwb yawns [12:16] I dislike the java crap which is not rendered by konqueror. I can't empty my hattrick team ;0 [12:16] :) [12:16] damn laptop keyboard [12:17] now I have to boot up that meganice and megabig firefix [12:17] damn laptop keyboard [12:17] firefox === lscd sighs and hates her dvd burner [12:18] you too? [12:18] hmm? [12:18] it just made another coaster (burning a kubuntu cd) [12:18] I have to burn everything on 4x or else ... [12:19] hehe [12:19] its more that my xbox totally screws up [12:19] mine refuses to acknowledge that the cheaper blank dvds from around here are actually dvds === thoreauputic_ [~prospero@wolax6-229.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:19] pfff, that sucks, what does you burner think it is then? [12:19] and it's been coastering about every odd thing lately, and one of my dvds had some interesting data corruption issues === thoreauputic_ is now known as thoreauputic [12:20] it just tells me that the opc fails [12:20] I baked a CRC fest the other day, very weird === tmad [TestMAD@pool-151-205-46-166.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:21] I burned a full speed copy of an fat32 dir. The guy using windows who the disk was for could not read it at all, crc errors all over the disk [12:21] ick [12:21] i like my old cdburner better, but it's in my sister's room [12:21] and? [12:22] hm? it's half past midnight [12:22] thats on the other side of the castle? ah, right [12:22] everyone would get pissed at me if i went over, booted her computer, and used it [12:22] lol [12:22] CET for you then .. [12:22] ayeup, switzerland [12:23] lovely [12:23] could be worse [12:23] and you? [12:23] yeah, specially during winter :) [12:23] Holland [12:23] I love to board, so the snow would be more than welcome [12:24] snowboard? [12:24] we have no hills either, so we need to get to the alps anyway [12:24] yeah [12:24] hehe [12:24] i shattered an elbow at that :p [12:24] and since it's on;y a 10 hour drive, it's not that bad [12:24] yeah, you can fall pretty hard [12:24] yeah [12:25] i broke it in 4 places and needed tons of metal for a year [12:25] pfff, thats terrible [12:25] yeah, i was on a school trip; another guy brokes his even worse [12:25] damn === Fraeon is now known as Fra|way [12:26] mine's pretty much ok though, just a bit weaker, and i can forget about doing pushups/chinups [12:26] if you break your elbow, do you break your underarm, or upperarm? [12:26] hm? it was the actual elbow, and i shattered it, not my upper or lower arm [12:26] I broke my ancle once, 3 places, but thats really the bottom of your chin?? (underleg) [12:27] no, that's not your heel [12:27] nope [12:27] legg [12:27] yeah === niktaris [~niktaris@ppp23-adsl-99.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #kubuntu [12:27] I'd hate to hurt my arms :) [12:27] i was thinking that heel might've been what you meant by 'bottom of your chin', since well, your actual chin isn't around there ;) [12:27] eh, it's a pain - i've broken both of my wrists too [12:28] I was wondering if there are some instructions on how to build (not remaster) a live cd using d-i and casper [12:28] boarding too? [12:28] but never a finger, so i've always been able to type, so not that big a deal ;) [12:28] :) === The_Vox [~vox@cablelink47-248.intercable.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:28] no, one at school with the equipment on the playground, and one roller blading [12:28] you break a lot [12:28] eh, those're my only breaks [12:29] me too, I break easyly [12:29] but yeah - i prefer computers to, say, sports for a reason ;) [12:29] i don't get worse than sore wrists here [12:29] ok, and back and eyes ;) [12:29] lol, my butt hurts, my back, arms. All that from NOT using the computer for a week, after I got back everything felt like RSI :) [12:30] lol, what were you doing for the week? [12:30] walking around, playing with my kids, swimming [12:30] basicly being a kewl dad [12:30] :) [12:30] ahhh === lscd suspects that you're older than i am ^-^ [12:31] prolly [12:31] 32 [12:31] yep [12:31] my oldest is 4 allready, soon 5 [12:31] some guys studying cs with me are that old [12:31] cool [12:31] I just finished 1.5 years ago, cs too [12:31] so I'm one of them :) [12:31] with a bachelor's degree? [12:32] yep [12:32] pfft, naw, you must've been about the average age here when you started ;) [12:32] lol [12:32] started at 24 [12:32] so I took my time, but not that much :) [12:32] eh, ok, so you were younger than the average here then, i think [12:32] oldies then [12:32] hm, ~6 years? that's a chunk [12:33] hmmz, thats good or bad? :) [12:33] neutral, just means 'a sort of big amount' :) [12:33] anyway, my son got really realy angry with my employer because he made me go to work again. He called me during the day to tell me that :) [12:34] lol [12:34] my english sucks [12:34] i'll survive anyway [12:34] we'll [12:35] ehh, your english isn't that bad [12:35] gtg now, battery is almost empty and since I'm working again tomorrow, I might as just get some sleep [12:35] eh, sleep well [12:35] not that bad, true, [12:35] it's pretty decent, actually [12:35] but I'm, searching for words and make silly mistakes [12:35] yeah, vocab is hard [12:36] I wrote something once in which I used 'wondering around' a couple of times. funny mistake [12:36] lol :) [12:36] thats what I'm struggeling with, and 'easyly' [12:36] easely [12:36] easaly [12:36] dunno [12:37] easily [12:37] haven't tried thatone yet :) [12:37] it is that one :) [12:37] good/ [12:37] (english is my first language) [12:37] ah, [12:37] that explains a lot [12:38] well, sleep well too, we'll talk later [12:38] thanks [12:38] :) [12:38] ciao! [12:38] gr.... my bloody mac is refusing to boot off the cdrom drive [12:38] ciao [12:38] notte ;) [12:38] :) === _sam [~sam@196.2.95.8] has joined #kubuntu === heulSuSE [~volker@i3ED6C63F.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === _sam is now known as iceman === jwir3 [~jwir3@host-120-99-220-24.midco.net] has joined #kubuntu === hon [~hon@khordad.ee.queensu.ca] has joined #kubuntu [12:53] hey everyone. I am trying to setup a wireless card (cisco aironet 350) onto a wpa network. I can't seem to get wpa_supplicant to work correctly. The config file is setup correctly, but I don't know what driver to use. Anyone have success with this? === virgule [~virgule@modemcable069.67-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu === dewey [~dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === equex [~skldhxr@128.39.125.52] has joined #kubuntu === boga [~boga@CPE0011095f2041-CM00e06f240dd8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === _stealth [~stealth@CPE000b6a02eae1-CM001255730722.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === _stealth is now known as Stealth-X [01:14] ok i have a problem. [01:14] What does VmSize and VmRss mean in KDE's ksysguard? [01:14] anytime i try to install anything i get ... [01:14] Errors were encountered while processing: [01:14] gtkboard [01:14] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [01:14] VmSize is the total amount of memory the OS has let that app earmark === lunahood [~lunahood@D9934.d.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu [01:15] hmm. [01:15] RSS is "resident set size" and is approximately the amount of actual RAM the app is using, minus shared libraries, swapped out bits, etc [01:16] thanx aseigo, but the first answer is not very clear, and the app does not have anyting to explain this! [01:17] boga: you mean the answer re:VmSize is not particularly clear? [01:17] aseigo: yes, [01:18] The bit "...has let that app earmark" is not understood [01:18] boga: VmSize is the total amount of RAM that the application is using. some (or a lot) of that may also be shared with other applications, though, in the form of shared libraries and what not [01:18] ok [01:19] because I am running NX and was looking for how much resources I have left. === drunkchmod [~drunkchmo@13196a526ec1775c.session.tor] has joined #kubuntu === jsubl2 [~jsubl2@209.144.23.40] has joined #kubuntu [01:22] boga: ah.. you want the total size minus buffers and cache [01:23] aseigo: possible to obtain that? [01:23] boga: yes. easiest way to find totals in the GUI is to open KInfoCenter and click on the memory page [01:24] boga: or if you wish to use the command line, `free` [01:24] boga: the memory page in Kinfocenter shows usage live though =) === niktaris [~niktaris@ppp23-adsl-99.ath.forthnet.gr] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === bretzel [~bretzel@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:26] thanx...and by the way, if you are the PLASMA guru, I appreciate your work and enjoy reading your insights, though I did not agree with your "praise" of HP a while back. [01:28] holy Christ! I have 3.9 MB of memory left! [01:28] boga: yeah, that's me [01:28] Hello -- Is it safe to get kde-342 from the kubuntu repos while I am using Ubuntu ? [01:28] boga: remember that you want to MINUS the buffers and cache [01:29] boga: linux tries to keep your RAM used by filling up the RAM not needed by apps with disk caches.. sort of like an automatic, auto-resizing ram disk [01:29] aseigo: does this make linux system run hotter than windows system with more RAM being in use? [01:30] Ok. I should not be worries after all [01:30] drunkchmod: no [01:30] it even says so in the tooltips [01:30] drunkchmod: if anything it keeps it down by not hitting disk as much [01:30] boga: hoorah for tooltips! =)) [01:30] aseigo: very good [01:31] bretzel: you desire to use kubuntu on your ubuntu system? [01:34] aseigo: That's you...wow. Now this might be offtopic but I'll praise HP once I can download their Linux printer drivers from HP.com [01:35] Since they "support" Linux, they should have a Linux driver section just like they do for Windows. === aseigo laughs [01:35] usually the best you can get is a link from the drivers page for the printer [01:36] thought usually the most recent printer drivers are included with your linux install these days [01:36] drunkchmod: Why not ? :-) [01:37] That's not the point. Imagine yrself infronf of a PHB,,,trying to justify an HO printer, but have to go to a 3rd party site to get drivers in order to use some of its unique capabilities! [01:37] drunkchmod: Especialy for Kdevelop (3.1.2) [01:37] We lost out to Windows at my company this way [01:38] there I was, going to linuxprinting.com...for an HP printer I claimed was supported by HP! [01:38] well, this is where salesmanship helps =) [01:38] aseigo: It was hard...infact Windows beat us there. [01:38] at that point i usually point out that the Linux ecosystem works differently, and BETTER, in this way than many others [01:39] instead of having to scour the internet for drivers, we usually have them all assembled in one place [01:39] well, not when you have others claiming a solution with "known" places for support. [01:39] our achiles heel is that we don't always have the breadth of drivers available, but what is there is usually already categorized [01:39] yes, "known" as in "N different locations for N different solutions" [01:40] which is silly, really, when you think about it [01:40] Well, if HP had put these drivers on their page, we'd be OK now. After all, they "support" Linux right? [01:40] in an environment where cooperation is encouraged, people help each other find the best solutions. so instead of looking for the "right" printer driver, if it exists it's likely well categorized with all the other ones [01:41] boga: not really. i mean, yes, it would be nice to see more visible signs of support, but i really hate having to dig through every vendor's unique website and deciphering their specific download system [01:41] But why won't they put these drivers there? WHY? [01:41] boga: much nicer is when they are all pooled together with consistent documentation and access features [01:41] market realities. [01:41] That's not the way decision makers see things. === nikkia [~nikki@host-87-74-30-24.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:42] not enough of a desktop market to make waves far enough ashore to reach the people who manage those websites, primariliy [01:42] when you claim support, verification is made by visiting yr site. [01:42] boga: as i said, this is where salesmanship comes into play. decision makers are often wrong ;) but are almost always willing to discover new and better ways of doing things [01:43] boga: decision makers don't see things in one unified way [01:43] Not when you have another vendor with all sorts of relevant sites...meanwhile, you present Linuxprinnn.com, linuxhhh.net [01:43] so I see we have a long way to go [01:44] when IBM fully put Linux support on its site, sales went thru the roof. === ubuntu-es [~ubuntu-es@200.60.217.226] has joined #kubuntu [01:44] lobby hp [01:44] PHBs suddenly had where to go. [01:45] yes, i agree that the more visible support we get the better we do [01:45] but we also can't sit around and wait for vendors, because in no small part they are also waiting for us [01:45] so we both wait, sitting on our hands [01:45] aseigo...nice chat & by the way I am in Canada...how are you on the west coast? [01:46] ah! a fellow canuck! wonderful .. things are pretty good out here .. i'm in calgary though right now, not on the coast. [01:46] where abouts are you? [01:46] Toronto...I'm not fully Canadian, just a resident. [01:47] I missed the stspede [01:47] stampede [01:47] boga: bah, if you live here, you're canadian for all that it matters =) we are the melting pot country of the world after all ... where are you from originally? and how long in toronto? [01:48] and if you do make it out for stampede next year, be sure to look me up +) [01:48] Uganda...close to 3 years [01:48] I wish I could do more for KDE [01:48] yey, more canadians [01:48] aseigo: i used to live in edmonton [01:48] The problem is that I am no coder [01:48] ca - na - da! ca - na - da! ;) [01:48] ohh [01:48] hiya gang [01:48] Edmonton is sooooo cold I hear [01:48] I was curious if they have a banner for Kubuntu ? [01:48] boga: well, there's a lot of non-coding stuff to do in kde [01:49] boga: only in winter [01:49] and the winter is long ;) [01:49] boga: testing, bug triage, documentation, translations, websites, promo ... [01:49] I hear so...but I must admit I am lazy. I am looking at writing some documentation [01:50] there are so many apps. I use Konqui mostly [01:50] may be that's wahere I should start [01:50] hmmm I guess not [01:51] supernix: a banner? [01:51] supernix: you mean for websites? [01:51] Yes like for a website [01:51] supernix: a full size one like an advertisment, or those small little "brilliant buttons" [01:52] actually it would be nicer to have a banner at the top that is the most noticeable section === McScruff [~mcscruff@cpc1-folk1-3-0-cust41.asfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === luminerd [~luminerd@c-24-2-69-204.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:52] how can i get shockwave in konqueror [01:52] what differs this channel from #ubuntu? [01:52] luminerd: the 'k'. =P [01:52] I thought about adding one to my site at www.shotokansite.com to help promote kubuntu [01:53] aseigo, lol, yea, but what kind of discussion? [01:53] McScruff: unfortunately, AFAIK, the newest shockwave only comes as a mozilla plugin and konqi only supports the older NS4 standard === granbar_ [granbar@host-81-191-58-72.bluecom.no] has joined #kubuntu [01:53] luminerd: pretty much everything kubuntu.. so ubuntu but with less gnome and more kde talk =) === granbar_ is now known as granbar [01:53] damn it, i wanted a firefox free pc [01:54] now i need to install firefox, is there a .deb for 1.0.6? [01:54] supernix: i don't think there is one of those, no... ask Riddell next time he's around there [01:54] aseigo, lol, ok [01:54] ok ty aseigo shame though [01:55] We don't get a million hits a month but every little bit helps [01:55] supernix: i'm sure it's probably just because nobody has asked yet =) if you're decent with the gimp you may even want to do one up yourself and contribute it back [01:55] supernix: yes, every bit does indeed help [01:55] I just noticed that Ubuntu is still #1 on distrowatch.com === aseigo notes distrowatch isn't exactly bellweather of the linux world [01:55] McScruff: "apt-get -update" && "apt-get -upgrade" as root of course [01:56] I did the banner that is there with photoshop but that was a long time ago and so far I don't know anything about gimp much [01:56] What do you mean by not being bellweather ? [01:56] boga, dont want whole system updated :) === _nikkia [~nikki@host-87-74-30-24.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:57] McScruff: then I am lost...you could google it [01:58] apt-get install mozilla-firefox will do [01:58] WTF it doesnt open!!! firefox wont open!!!!! [01:59] aseigo: what does bellweather mean ? [01:59] supernix: a measuring guide, if you will [01:59] 5.04 the most recent good one? [01:59] oic [01:59] what is the best bellweather then ? [02:02] Kubuntu 5.04 is that the most recent/stable (enough) version? If there's a better one considered unstable, but not really unstable, I'd still like it I think....but if I'll be aptitude'ing the rest anyway I suppose it doesn't matter even if I get Ubuntu v 1.0? lol [02:03] yes [02:08] thanks crimsun === judax [~troy@adsl-68-91-193-34.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:11] how do I do a 2.6 kernel install? [02:11] with debian it's linux26 option at boot, is that the same here? === P3L|C4N0 [~gcamposm@200.60.217.226] has joined #kubuntu [02:12] as far as i can tell, kubuntu is 2.6 by default === P3L|C4N0 o/ Hi people [02:14] it is 2.6.10 by default [02:14] You all should download kubuntu kernel 3.2 [02:15] hah, very funny [02:15] thanks guys [02:15] and gcc 2.7? [02:15] GVB is the new shit. GNU Visual Basic [02:16] why is my ps/2 keyboard not working? I press enter at the boot screen, and then when I get to the language selection, it won't work to select english. === ralph1 [~ralph1@66-214-31-61.dhcp.lnbh.ca.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === _epitaph [~epitaph@CPE00508dfb8a8a-CM0012c9daf3e8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === silvertear [~silvertea@pool-70-18-19-160.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:19] nvm, rebooted and it worked === nikkia [~nikki@host-87-74-30-24.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === nikkia [~nikki@2001:5c0:8a44:0:202:2dff:fe8b:59b2] has joined #kubuntu [02:26] i suggest adding the ubuntu-backports repositories, theres a lot of nifty stuff on there === bretzel [~bretzel@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #kubuntu [] === silvertear [~silvertea@pool-70-18-19-160.ny325.east.verizon.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === FireEgl [Atlantica@Atlantica.US] has joined #Kubuntu === epitaph_ [~epitaph@CPE00508dfb8a8a-CM0012c9daf3e8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === nikkia [~nikki@2001:5c0:8a44:0:202:2dff:fe8b:59b2] has joined #kubuntu [02:39] Hello? [02:39] my mouse doesn't work! :( [02:39] modprobe it [02:40] good night === granbar [granbar@host-81-191-58-72.bluecom.no] has left #kubuntu [] [02:40] ........... [02:40] modprobe wtf? [02:40] the way you load drivers under linux without rebooting [02:40] ok, what kind of mouse is it? [02:40] lscd, ps/2 [02:41] lsmod | grep psmouse [02:41] psmouse 19336 0 [02:41] ok, so modprobe won't help ;) [02:41] does it not move at all when you wiggle it? [02:42] nope :( [02:42] should I cat it? [02:42] i'd recommend using od, but sure, give that a try [02:42] od? [02:42] either way I forget what command to run :P [02:42] like cat, but it deals with binary data [like you'll get from your mouse] without corrupting your terminal [02:42] od /dev/psaux perhaps [02:43] permission denied, lscd :( [02:43] sudo od /dev/psaux [02:43] you need root perms [02:44] ok...so what now? [02:44] well, wiggle the mouse [02:44] does a bunch of stuff appear? [02:44] nothing [02:44] ok, check that it's plugged in tightly [02:44] and that you're using the right mouse [02:44] it is [02:44] lol [02:44] I am [02:45] dmesg [02:45] eth0: link down [02:46] that's just another problem :( [02:46] lscd, any ideas? [02:46] yeah, it is weird.... [02:46] er, does your mouse work under other systems? windows, knoppix....? [02:46] and you're sure it's not plugged into the keyboard port? [02:46] umm [02:47] err, well if it were my keyboard wouldn't work lol [02:47] 1 sec [02:47] sorry if this sounds like dumb questions :p [02:47] but you'd be surprised [02:47] yup it's alright [02:47] *all right [02:48] should I try a reboot? [02:48] i guess [02:48] preferably into non-kubuntu [02:48] to see if the mouse works there [02:48] or uh, I could move the mouse to a dif. system? === _nikkia [~nikki@2001:5c0:8a44:0:202:2dff:fe8b:59b2] has joined #kubuntu [02:49] all I got's kubuntu. [02:49] you'd have to reboot both systems [02:49] ahh [02:49] on that system anyway [02:49] not got any other livecds sitting around? [02:49] no [02:49] winblows on the other system though [02:50] mm [02:50] ok, try swapping your mice, after shutting down both pcs [02:50] alright [02:52] I didn't need to reboot the windows system. [02:52] the mouse works. [02:52] you shouldn't try to hot-plug ps/2 mice [02:52] you can fry stuff [02:52] hot-plug? [02:52] plug in while the system is on [02:53] I see...why the crap is that? [02:53] lol [02:53] electronics [02:53] they're an ugly little field ;) [02:53] -_-' [02:53] usb is designed to be fairly safe to hot-plug [02:53] well that might be the prob then [02:53] aside from that, on typical consumer pcs, forget it === delltony [~delltony@c-24-99-11-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:54] fairly safe? [02:54] lol that is frickin lame [02:55] mouse still don't work, lscd [02:55] the other mouse [02:55] hi guys have a question in regard to pdf files. i read a lot of ebooks from netlibrary.com and well on windozes it interfaces fine with ie but of course i'm using linux and would like to read these ebooks without the dang thing poping up in a seperate window each page seperately in kpdf. any suggestions is there a adobe acrobat extention for firefox or what? === _nikkia [~nikki@2001:5c0:8a44:0:202:2dff:fe8b:59b2] has joined #kubuntu === incubii [incubii@203.35.155.131] has joined #kubuntu [02:57] delltony, you shouldn't use IE, www.getfirefox.com...and there is no way to view a PDF without something popping up...afaik even IE can't view a PDF inside the browser, it needs a plugin. [02:57] sry if I'm just being ignorant. [02:57] i don't use IE jsut saying === kaplanfx [~kaplanfx@c-67-161-15-222.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:58] lol I see [02:58] hello [02:58] your wrong on that thught luminerd [02:58] read the example of what i posted [02:58] ie has a built in adobe plugini [02:58] I'm going to install kubuntu, im wondering what the preferred installation method is [02:58] I read already [02:58] it reads it inside the page === eazel7 [~eazel7@host222.201-252-64.telecom.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu [02:58] should I use a daily cd or hoary? [02:58] That's strange [02:59] not really [02:59] hats how its designed [02:59] kaplanfx, afaik it doesn't matter since you end up installing all the updates anyway via internet [02:59] just like office word loads the .doc files inside of a browser [02:59] delltony, ok, well I dont know what I'm talking about :{ [02:59] so I may as well go with the daily eh? [03:00] kaplanfx, don't take my word for it, I'm no expert :P might try #ubuntu [03:00] when you go to a page that contains a document [03:00] i use to use IE reason i say this [03:00] its more active [03:00] but being i have used linux for about 3 years now then its firefox or nothing [03:00] lscd, you still around? [03:00] the daily cd is the development build [03:00] development = bugs [03:00] if you have some spray then go for it [03:01] its like firefox i use to do the daily build things [03:01] but it ran so crappy i gave up === eazel7 [~eazel7@host222.201-252-64.telecom.net.ar] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [03:02] delltony: then go with hoary? [03:02] yea, kaplanfx sounds like hoary will be best for you [03:02] I'm going to shut up now before I give any more false advice ^_^' [03:03] i would go with hoary [03:03] until the build array say 6 or so [03:03] My mouse won't work :( I'm using kubuntu 5.04...I can't even od the mouse. :( I tried switching mouses...no mice will work on the system....the same mice work fine on my windoze box. [03:03] or the final freeze [03:04] you looked in the xorg.conf i think there is a section in there for mouse if i'm not mistaken [03:04] actually i know there is cause you have to add stuff for middle button === mart [~mart@ip66.cab56.mus.starman.ee] has joined #kubuntu [03:14] luminerd: sorry, was doing stuff irl [03:14] irl? [03:15] in real life [03:15] sorting through papers === judax [~troy@ppp-70-250-152-206.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === mart is now known as joss193 [03:19] lscd, someone in #ubuntu's having me install gpm [03:21] tell them that od doesn't show anything when you od /dev/psaux [03:21] gpm is great, but if you're not getting data from your mouse anyhow, it won't help [03:22] I see... 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