=== jeffsch [~jeffsch@204.174.35.250] has left #ubuntu-doc ["gotta] === avanspronsen [~andrewv@Toronto-HSE-ppp3867383.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === avanspronsen [~andrewv@Toronto-HSE-ppp3867383.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [~mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:22] hmm [01:23] Do we have any docs at all on how to connect to the Internet? [01:23] there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto [01:23] which is scarily, scarily complicated [01:23] I assume that will get much better with NetworkManager [01:28] but I can't find any docs on connecting over dialup or DSL or LAN === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === judax [~troy@adsl-68-91-193-34.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [user@bl5-40-135.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:28] Hi... When will the import of PO files to Rosetta be finished? [02:28] I mean... to the Breezy release templates.... === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === judax [~troy@ppp-70-250-152-206.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [user@bl5-40-135.dsl.telepac.pt] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === poningru [~poningru@pool-68-238-171-180.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === froud-away [~froud@ndn-165-131-129.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === venda [~sean@ndn-165-131-129.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === hornbeck [~hornbeck@adsl-69-155-172-150.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:57] hey all [06:57] hey hornbeck nice seeing you here again [06:59] ah, some actual life on this channel [06:59] *grin* [06:59] Madpilot: hi, just got my dsl back [07:00] aside from the " has joined/disconnected" messages, that is [07:00] getting internet back is good [07:00] lol the place has been quiet lately yes.. [07:01] i usually arrive at this time (after lunch on my side) [07:01] ah well. there are now two less entries on CategoryCleanup [07:01] it's 2200 here [07:01] wiki! [07:01] (i hateses are wiki ever since) [07:02] wikis seem to have become a nessesary evil or something [07:04] at least we can do something about getting Ubuntu's wiki semi-coherent and possibly useful [07:04] ;) === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:13] Burgundavia: hi [07:15] salut jsgotangco === avanspronsen [~andrewv@Toronto-HSE-ppp3867383.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Skywind [~Skywind@218.104.86.222] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Skywind [~Skywind@218.104.86.222] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Skywind [~Skywind@218.104.86.222] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Skywind [~Skywind@218.104.86.222] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Skywind [~Skywind@218.104.86.222] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:52] what was the problems with the server? [08:53] problems with the server? [08:54] thoughts? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IHate640x480 [08:55] mdke anyone figure out why there are weird characters on the docteam server hosted docs? or is it just me... http://65.19.178.132/gnome/faqi386/C/ [08:55] IHate640x480: I hate the name. But the content is useful for a very small audience. [08:56] better name? [08:57] ToshibaTecraConsole [08:57] a bit long... [08:57] this also happens on other machines, like my fathers sony laptop [08:57] it's of almost no consequence to the ubuntu target audience [08:57] LaptopSmallConsole [08:57] in general [08:57] because they won't be using the console [08:58] this is bootup stuff HrdwrBoB [08:58] yes [08:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EthiopianTeam <-- funky lettering [08:58] with the same logic, you should propose to get rid of the shell and xterms :) [08:59] maybe breezy+1 can deal with making the graphical bootup nice [08:59] Burgundavia: I like LaptopSmallConsole [08:59] ok, moving [09:00] finally got a ping back from someone I emailled about a job [09:00] rob^: can't access http://65.19.178.132 you must be hitting the cache in your browser. That must be the IP of the server that mdke rebooted a few hours ago and then "lost" [09:00] Burgundavia: was it a positive ping? [09:00] however, the following things are wrong the company: use a hotmail addy, wanted a .doc and couldn't deal with my .pdf (said they couldn't open it) [09:01] but I will see where they go [09:01] is it a very small shop? it is as if they REALLY need a good sysadmin [09:02] this is not a tech job, I don't think [09:02] I honestly don't remember what this job is about [09:02] what do you think we should do with all these created talk pages [09:02] the ones that list the old subpages? [09:03] I personally never use the talk pages. [09:03] shall I delete them all as harmful? [09:04] I would strongly suggest that you propose the idea to the ML before you start deleting them :) [09:04] yes [09:04] I just wanted to gauge the general reaction before I did so [09:04] I would zap them all. [09:56] http://www.linuxhd.com/ubuntufaq/faqi386/C/index.html [09:58] I think he had the directory wrong [09:58] he had gnome/faqi386/C/ [09:59] its just a preview.. === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [~yh728@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:40] ? === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:48] hi [10:49] hi - just had our 2nd power outage in four nights... [10:49] plays hell with my attempts to set personal uptime records! [10:49] wow [10:49] i had a power outage at home last night too but it got fixed by the power company after an hour [10:49] me and my neighbor had no electricity for at least an hour [10:50] yeah, these have all been short - just a couple of minutes tonight [10:50] but it's still unusual for this city... [10:50] where is that? [10:50] Victoria, BC, Canada [10:51] ahh right [10:51] hmm [10:51] shouldn't you be sleeping by now heh [10:51] it's only 0150 here. I'll go to bed in a bit [11:09] heh [11:09] it's 1909 here [11:10] .. dinner time! [11:10] 1909 in Oz - and that's on Wednesday evening right? === Madpilot is still confused by the whole Date Line thing... [11:11] yes [11:11] wednesday everning [11:12] evening [11:12] cool. is 0212 Weds. morning here. [11:12] got to be at work by 0900. sleep might be a good idea... [11:15] heh [11:15] yes, sleep is well worth it === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:45] docteam server back up [12:45] (sigh of relief) === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [~mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-doc === froud [~froud@ndn-165-131-129.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === venda [~sean@ndn-165-131-129.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ealden [~ealden@219.90.91.140] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [~poningru@pool-68-238-172-115.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:02] bye bye (seems no one is around anyway) === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === mgalvin [~mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:23] hi all === jjesse [~jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:31] hi mgalvin [03:31] hey mdke [03:31] morning :) [03:32] morning jjesse === WaterSevenUb [~WaterSeve@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [03:43] https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-doc [03:44] cool [03:46] we still have that problem with weird characters on our server btw [03:50] mdke, even with a rebuild? [03:51] I changed the locale to en_us.utf8 and rebuilt, same problem [03:52] hmm [03:52] are you building it on the linnode or on your machine? [03:52] on the linode [03:53] what versions of our tools are on the linode, possible issue there maybe? [03:53] just a thought [03:53] possibly all the tools are not installed [03:53] the machine is standard hoary [03:54] hmm, docbook-xslt is not on hoary by default iirc [03:54] well I installed some stuff [03:54] but maybe I missed some things out [03:54] lemme try [03:54] ok, just a thought, it worth checking at least [03:54] E: Couldn't find package docbook-xslt [03:56] er, docbook-xsl rather [03:57] that is installed [03:57] docbook-xml wasn't tho, installing now, just in case [04:02] odd that they appear fine in konq [04:05] hmm, maybe try building them on your machine the move those files over to linode to try and verify that is not the build itself... b/c those wierd chars are in the html [04:05] maybe khtml can just deal with them better then gecko can [04:05] hmm [04:06] i couldn't see the characters in the html when I looked on the machine [04:06] e.g. [04:06]

[04:07] i could see them here via ff [04:07] hmm [04:07] perhaps it is apache after all [04:07] and perhaps apache on my machine has the same problem [04:07] i was just going to ask if you tried your orig idea of checking apache [04:08] i guess its possible it could be munging stuff up somehow [04:17] silly question but in what channel does the ubuntu communiity council meetings meet? [04:18] ubuntu-meeting [04:18] jjesse, you missed the meeting :( [04:18] i know i did :( [04:18] got my time zone conversion messed up and couldn't find the channel to join [04:18] mgalvin, same problem if I copy the files to http://www.mdke.org/Documents/faqi386/C/ [04:20] so the next meeting if i do my conversion right 12 utc is 8am eastern [04:23] jjesse, you can get the current utc time by typing "date -u" in a terminal [04:26] cool got the conversion done right === judax [~troy@ppp-70-250-152-206.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:29] mdke, hmm [04:30] i am going to try doing a fresh build here [04:35] it built fine here and looks fine [04:35] check it here [04:35] http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com/ubuntu/faqi386/C/ [04:40] yeah [04:54] gtg === Seveaz [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [user@bl5-45-132.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [user@bl5-45-132.dsl.telepac.pt] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === ealden [~ealden@219.90.91.140] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [~mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:49] mdke: could you set me up with a login to linode, i should be able to take a peak at it in a little while... if someone else hasn't already [08:54] mgalvin, doing it now [09:15] mgalvin: I dont see any problem [09:15] mgalvin: infact I am nowing seeing the pages just fine [09:16] in ff? [09:16] yeah [09:17] i see the symbols still [09:17] can somebody with a sudoer account install lynx pls [09:18] hmm, i still see them in ff === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:21] mgalvin: looks good under lynx too [09:23] i see #'s in lynx and *'s in elinks [09:24] any page in particular [09:24] index.html [09:25] seems to show up on all of them here [09:25] nada [09:25] looks clean here [09:25] the ones i looked at anyway(random pages) [09:25] hmm, odd [09:28] the pages there are a 1:1 match with my loacl build [09:28] bit4 bit [09:29] but yesterday I had problems [09:29] mdke: what changed since yesteray [09:32] i changed the locale of the user to utf8 [09:33] also i installed docbook-xml [09:33] that's about it [09:33] well I no longer see th eproblems [09:33] i d [09:33] o [09:33] huh [09:33] o ki do ki [09:37] but the pages are clean if you look at them on the server (cat index.html) [09:38] which makes me think it's apache [09:38] mdke: bit4bit they match my local build [09:39] ok can't be the build then i guess [09:39] no and I no longer see the problems I had yesterday [09:40] but mgalvin says he does see problems [09:40] me too [09:40] on both my computers [09:40] so just me sees all OK, that's all that counts. It's OK then :-) [09:41] Ah Kubuntu [09:41] no you on Gentoo, no? [09:41] Hmm lemme see from SuSE [09:41] on gentoo and hoary [09:42] looks good on SuSE ff [09:42] kde? [09:43] Both KDE [09:43] Something in GNOME you think, nah, can it be [09:44] i would doubt it but anything is possible i guess [09:44] doubt it [09:45] anyone else have a kde box [09:46] mdke: you said it was only that doc? [09:49] i have a kde box [09:49] sorry was afk [09:49] whats up? [09:49] <--- kubuntu [09:50] http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com/ubuntu/faqi386/C/index.html [09:50] jjesse: do you see any problems in the page [09:50] froud: thats my build of it, as yes that one looks fine [09:50] that looks fine for me [09:50] froud: the issue only shows up on the linode server and mdke's server [09:51] arh [09:51] froud: jjesse: try hitting the faq on linode [09:51] linode address? [09:51] http://65.19.178.132/gnome/faqi386/C/ [09:52] no problems on the first page, looks clean to me in konqueror [09:52] chedked other pages no issues [09:53] how about in ff [09:53] hmmm only happens in ff [09:54] maybe a gecko problem with the locale [09:54] khtml seems to handle it just fine === mgalvin is starting to guess wildly [09:55] What is Opera asking for cert [09:55] wiki.ubuntu.com [09:55] Canonical Ltd [09:55] IM [09:55] emailAddress: webmaster@ubuntu.com [09:55] Issuer [09:55] wiki.ubuntu.com [09:55] Canonical Ltd [09:56] arh [09:56] dumb thing [09:57] opera has the same problems as ff === froud [~froud@ndn-165-131-129.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:03] Mozilla has same problem [10:05] just strange that it is only happening when viewing the docs from linode [10:05] mine build is just fine [10:05] when I switch encoding in the browser it is fixed [10:06] iso-8859-1 works well [10:07] when I switch to utf-8 I get the problems [10:07] hah, it utf8 then [10:07] confirmed, same here [10:08] mdke: you chaged the locale right? can you try changing it back? === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === judax [~troy@ppp-70-250-152-206.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [~yh728@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:14] my users env is set LANG=en_US.UTF-8 [10:16] mdke: what is the ubuntu-docs user LANG [10:21] mgalvin, what to? [10:21] do env [10:21] see LANG=en_US.UTF-8 [10:21] yes, but what do you want me to change it to [10:21] no leave it [10:22] mgalvin, you asked if I can change it? [10:22] just need to kow what it is [10:22] sean@none:/etc/apache2/conf.d$ cat charset [10:22] AddDefaultCharset UTF-8 [10:22] sean@none:/etc/apache2/conf.d$ [10:27] in apache2.conf [10:27] is #AddDefaultCharset ISO-8859-1 [10:27] meant to be commented out? [10:27] you can only have one defaultcharset i reckon [10:28] but I think ISO-8859-1 is the recognised charset for the web [10:28] and the default has been set in conf.d/charset [10:29] change the charset [10:30] edit /etc/apache2/conf.d$ cat charset [10:31] change to ISO-8859-1 [10:32] apache2.conf adds AddCharset UTF-8 .utf8 [10:33] and ISO-8859-1 [10:33] but AddDefaultCharset ISO-8859-1 === uniq_ [charlie@3ffe:80ee:31fe:0:0:0:0:33] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:34] will try [10:34] the server is real slow to respond [10:34] see k my side [10:34] seems fine [10:37] ok i think that has fixed it :D [10:37] check? [10:39] na da [10:39] Hmm [10:39] did you restart [10:39] apache [10:40] i did [10:40] i don't get the problems now here [10:40] you dont [10:40] Hmm maybe proxy my side [10:40] did you shift reload [10:41] bingo it works [10:41] fixed here :) [10:41] cool === venda gives hikmself a noddy badge [10:42] gone in search of coffee [10:42] thanks venda [10:43] np was beginning to doubt our sanity for a min === venda goes to bo bo land