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[04:35] hi? [04:35] talkative bunch :) [04:35] this is the meeting room; see the topic for the next meeting [04:35] you probably want to be in #ubuntu [04:35] ahh hehe ty [04:36] yw [04:36] leaving === adkinsj [~adkinsj@cpe-024-163-111-103.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === joz [~mak@h66-201-246-249.gtcust.grouptelecom.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === joolz_ [~joolz@kiar.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === rob^ [~rob@rob-ubuntu.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-074-162.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-167-183.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === teolemon [~famille@car75-5-82-234-128-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === teolemon [~famille@car75-5-82-234-128-149.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:JaneW] : Calendar -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar || Logs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ || 3 Aug 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu Update Meeting ||3 Aug 22:00 UTC: MOTU http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMeeting || 5 Aug 20:00 UTC: NUN http://wiki.ubuntu.com/NUNAgenda || 9 Aug 20:00 UTC: Tech Board http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda || 11 Aug 22:00 UTC: Doc Team http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamMeetingAgenda || 16 Aug 12:00 UTC: Community Co === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === real_sunzi [~suunzi@ACB17571.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === real_sunzi [~suunzi@ACB17571.ipt.aol.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["...] [09:53] JaneW: your new topic is too long; the end part is truncated... [09:53] robitaille: hmmm... I just added our meeting, which will be removed after 13:00 UTC.... [09:54] robitaille: should I put it back to the way it was? [09:55] JaneW: leave it that way for now. I'm sure someone will think to add back the end part of the CC meeting info after the Edubutu meeting [09:55] too many meeting in this place.... :) === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:JaneW] : Calendar - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar || Logs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ || 12:00 UTC Edubuntu ||3 Aug 22:00 UTC: MOTU http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMeeting || 5 Aug 20:00 UTC: NUN http://wiki.ubuntu.com/NUNAgenda || 9 Aug 20:00 UTC: Tech Board http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda || 11 Aug 22:00 UTC: Doc Team http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamMeetingAgenda || 16 Aug 12:00 UTC: CC http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Community [09:56] yes, funny that hey === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:JaneW] : Calendar - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar|| Logs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/|| 12:00 UTC Edubuntu|| 3 Aug 22:00 UTC: MOTU http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMeeting|| 5 Aug 20:00 UTC: NUN http://wiki.ubuntu.com/NUNAgenda|| 9 Aug 20:00 UTC: Tech Board http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda|| 11 Aug 22:00 UTC: Doc Team http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamMeetingAgenda|| 16 Aug 12:00 UTC: CC http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCounci [09:58] ok that's it for now... [09:59] <\sh> two meetings in two days... [09:59] <\sh> I must be lonely === robitaille [~daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === sirdaz [~Darren@82-70-83-142.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jdthood [~jdthood@x095.decis.nl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === FLeiXiuS [~fleixius@pcp0010487351pcs.essex01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === highvoltage [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jdthood [~jdthood@x095.decis.nl] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jingl3 [~john@193.203.245.161] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:08] hi john [12:08] you are a little early though [12:08] it's 12:00 UTC, so 14:00 our time [12:09] JOhn you are UK time though right? [12:09] I think that's 13:00 your time [12:09] "2 hours from now" [12:09] - 9 minutes [12:10] Yes, I was just thinking... never know when to add or subtract! See you later! === jingl3 [~john@193.203.245.161] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] [12:11] Treenaks, that's a much better way of putting it, thank-you :) [12:11] JaneW: np :) === Mez [~Mez@cpc2-lich4-3-0-cust115.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === knuty [~knuty@182.84-48-114.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Kamion [~cjwatson@83-216-156-196.colinw664.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> zelazny.freenode.net === mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jelkner [~jelkner@dsl092-236-069.phl1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jelkner [~jelkner@dsl092-236-069.phl1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:33] JaneW: good moring! this is the place for the edubuntu meeting, yes? [01:33] jelkner: morning :) yes, 27 minutes and counting [01:33] jelkner: you're early [01:33] i just didn't want to be late ;-) [01:33] :) [01:34] is 8am early in the states? [01:34] in the summer time it is [01:34] or just for flint? [01:34] for me too [01:34] not durning the school year [01:35] I guess on vaccation it would be... [01:35] indeed, those three months when teachers sleep in [01:37] our first agenda item is the timeline, yes? [01:38] i read the minutes from the last meeting, and i'm eager to know if we are still on target for those dates [01:39] indeed so am I [01:39] it's now or never time for planning free software day activities [01:39] we wanted to do several edubuntu related events [01:40] but i've been stalling to see if it would be possible [01:40] we have some issues though which I need to discuss [01:46] MEETING NOTICE: 15 minutes to our Edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-devel [01:46] correction #ubuntu-meeting [01:46] opps, i thought i had to move === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jingl3 [~john@193.203.245.161] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [01:57] JaneW: question - flint is trying to join us, but he says the name "flint" is banned. [01:57] how can he fix this? [01:57] dunno [01:57] use another nick? [01:57] yeah [01:58] jelkner: hey long time no see/chat even [01:59] jsgotango: and you would be whom? [01:59] ah yes, let's do the intro thing. === highvoltage is Jonathan Carter [01:59] jelkner is Jeff Elkner [02:00] jingl3 is John Ingleby === jsgotangco is Jerome Gotangco jelkner doesn't remember :( [02:00] <--- Oliver Grawert === teolemon [~famille@car75-5-82-234-128-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:01] knuty <--- Knut Yrvin === JaneW is === JaneW . [02:02] ;) [02:02] hi knuty. saw you on the debconf video of mark's talk :) [02:02] highvoltage, you did ? === bskahan [~bskahan@pool-151-205-103-219.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:02] Hi all. Let's get started. [02:02] highvoltage: Yes [02:02] Hi everyone [02:02] Edubuntu Meeting starting, [02:02] knuty, oh i thought you were going for miss norway [02:02] ogra: yes, i did. [02:03] highvoltage: well I saw the video ;-) === nufan [~Ed@cpc2-hem14-4-0-cust73.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:03] heh [02:03] lol === JaneW votes knut as miss norway === ogra too [02:04] JaneW: 8-) [02:04] ok back on topic [02:04] agenda? [02:04] jsgotangco, mail ! [02:04] gyah === jsgotangco grumbles "we have a wiki" === martinhj [~martinhj@host-81-191-103-214.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:05] * Current status of the edubuntu distro - and a review of Oliver's Development Roadmap (Milestones, ctivities and requirements going forward to the release date). This could include requests for assistance from Oliver. [02:05] jsgotangco: edit it!:P [02:05] http://edubuntu.org/EdubuntuOneDotZeroRoadmap [02:05] oli can we point everyone to your wiki pages? [02:05] sure [02:06] they are a bit draftish, but surely for the public [02:06] ok if you care to take a look at that it's a highlevel roadmap from here to the release date [02:06] ahh august 11 [02:06] milestone one says aug. 11 [02:06] that's next FRIDAY [02:06] are we still on for that? [02:06] yes [02:06] i hope we have a working install CD by aug 11 [02:07] nice === jsgotangco cracks whip [02:07] ubuntus X is still not installable [02:07] ogra: can you give us a few sentences of where you are at with the development please? [02:07] i thought breezy was still broken? [02:07] jsgotangco: oi that's my job! [02:07] i have made an upgrade yesterday and it took me half the day to get a working X agaiun... :( [02:07] JaneW, sure === tangledbank [~tangledba@cpc2-hem14-4-0-cust73.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:08] how is Breezy looking atm, ito build status? [02:08] the server package is nearly done, all seeds are sorted (seeds are the base for metapackages like edubuntu-server/-desktop) === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:08] hi ogra [02:08] i'm lagging with the main inclusion reports... (i suck at buerocracy) [02:09] ogra: can someone help you with that? [02:09] the edubuntu-desktop package sits still in universe as long as mnot all reports are approved... [02:09] JaneW, sure... Burgundavia already wanted to do them.... [02:09] but we still have a lot of them... [02:09] cool, let him! === luis_ [~louie@c-66-31-46-131.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:10] another odd thing is the mediawiki package.... [02:10] he;s not here now... too early for him I think [02:10] yes [02:10] thats strange her barely sleeps :) [02:10] debian asked me to not include my quick made hackish package but to use theirs... the problem is that not much development is going on there === infinito [~infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:11] they are still discussing basics and i fear thy wont have it ready in time [02:12] a third thing is that gcompris obviously doesnt compile with our compiler... gcompris is a hell of a package and takes time to fix (43MB source) [02:13] now to the positive stuff [02:13] it even has svgalib [02:13] we have a classroom control tool now... its over 60% done.... [02:13] wait [02:13] how serious are these issues? [02:14] can we live with them being broken and not included (worst case scenario?) [02:14] i had the choice to either rewrite the backend for TeacherTool to work with our LTSPO implementation or to do something from scratch [02:14] i decided for the latter... [02:14] JaneW, gcompris is essential ... [02:15] mediawiki *can* be replaced by moin, but we committed otherwise.... [02:15] LTSPO? [02:15] nod [02:15] my package would work, but i doubt its upgradeable wit the otally differen built debian package we'll have in the next release [02:16] highvoltage, -O indeed === ogra wants a new keyboard *cry* [02:16] so i'd like to see these two packages in.... [02:17] gcompris not in edubuntu would be a shame since a lot of people like it [02:17] another thing is that pitti doesnt want to support php4 [02:17] especially for early education [02:18] in no case... [02:18] geez [02:18] all the packages we use are built for php4, but breezy is planned to have php5 (wich entered the disto yesterday or so) === flint [~flint@209.246.42.100] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:19] so i have to rebuild all php based packages and test them again php5... mediawiki is known to have issues... [02:19] and moodle? [02:19] (besides the two weekly securiy updates you need anyway to keep it half way secure) [02:20] orga, one way to keep it secure is to front end it with a secure web application [02:20] moodle *should* work with php5 i havent seen negative reports yet, but as i said, php5 wasnt available before beginning of the week) [02:20] flint, haha.... [02:20] sorry ogra not orga can't type [02:21] flint, you mean a frontend to the frontend ? [02:21] No, (as they say) seriously folks why not put schootool in front of it? [02:21] The only way to get to moodle is through schooltool (in this fantasy) [02:21] flint, we have schooltool in parallel [02:22] (the only server app tha doesnt cause headaches for me currently) [02:22] how hard would series be? (just asking) [02:22] I know, I like schooltool! [02:22] and i'd like to keep moodle open for custiomization by the teacher [02:23] as well as mdiawiki... [02:23] media even [02:23] gotcha. [02:23] ogra: is that the same keyboard you use for coding? [02:23] highvoltage, mostly, yes... but vim has a great highlighting ;) [02:24] the big question for me is: can we go ahead with our free software day plans? [02:24] jelkner, free software day plans ?? [02:25] in other words, will it be possible to install a usable edubuntu server by sept 10 [02:25] or... to put it another way, how do I get my own ubuntu toaster? [02:25] we have a few projects in the works waiting for edubuntu [02:25] jelkner, see the roadmap... i'm plannung to match the milestones ;) [02:25] my question is what happened to Johnathan and Hilton's iso... [02:25] then it looks good [02:26] ogra: but you are depending on breezy work [02:26] flint: our iso's aren't usable [02:26] the essential part where i need most help will be the testing over the next month [02:26] which isn't even usable yet [02:26] or let me put it this way, it's really not ready for wide-spread use. [02:26] we are ready willing and eager to test [02:26] jelkner, yes, thats the prob... the X transition took extensively longer then planned [02:26] lagging, but hangon guys, let's finish getting thing developed first... [02:26] flint: and it's Jonathan, not Johnathan, btw ;) [02:27] heh [02:27] to quote the man "release early and often" Jonathan [02:27] ogra: where you finished with your update? [02:27] jelkner, the php5 decision is still pending and php5 isnt widely tested yet... [02:27] I was trying to distill the salient part out to record [02:27] JaneW, i think so [02:28] ogra: do you need any further help right now? [02:28] sorry about the misspellings, it is a gift part of FITS [02:28] ogra: and will you contact Corey for your inclusion reports? [02:28] JaneW, the report stuff would be a good candidate [02:28] flint: I am typo queen! [02:28] ogra: will you speak to corey or should I? [02:29] as you like... i'm around anyway... so who sees him first :) [02:29] ogra: does the php thing cause you a lot of extra work? [02:29] ogra: ok, let;s both nag him, I seem to be good at annoying ppl today.... [02:29] JaneW, sure... but keeping both would be the oddest we could do... === carsten [~carsten@xdslr167.osnanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:30] there has to be a decision... php is the worst stuff we have... and we need the most appropriate solution to be able to support it [02:30] ogra: what are you going to do about gcompris? [02:30] Jeff is concerned because our targets in DC are the Regional Public School Libraries [02:30] JaneW, contacting upstream... === highvolt1ge [~Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:31] flint, can you elaborate... [02:31] ogra: what would happen if it can;t get fixed? Do we still have a product? [02:31] JaneW, seed change (rip out gcompris) .... [02:31] JaneW, but gcompris is essential, we cant drop it... [02:32] ogra: so this is a biggie, by when must it be fixed, at the latest? === bska|mobile [~bskahan@pool-162-84-232-40.ny5030.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:32] ogra: and is there anyone I can nag? [02:32] ogra, It has to do with proxying moodle through the Zope3 schooltool application. It is just an idea at this time... [02:32] ogra: what is the status of child's play? [02:33] it should be ready for M1 but during M1-2 shoudl also be sufficient [02:33] jelkner, is that a complete replacemet ? i would rather see it as add on [02:34] flint, that doesnt solve my php problem... its just another webserver in fron then [02:34] they are different, so it is an add-on, but they are aimed at similar target users [02:34] jelkner, so you mean childsplay as a fallback for the worst case scenarion ? [02:34] gcompris is more mature, but child's play is written in Python [02:34] -n [02:34] you are correct. it merely "solves" the issues of security... === mhz [~phlak@mhz.fan.moinmoin] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:35] flint, my current problem is to find out if it works with php5 at all... we had no php5 packages until beginning of this week... and we wont support 4 and 5 [02:36] jelkner: do you think it's a feasible plan b? === mhz (sorry he's late but glad he could make it) [02:36] i'm not in a position to know [02:36] i could use either, but i'm starting with new installations [02:36] JaneW, feasable no, but calming down the rage of our users :) [02:36] we may have folks who already use gcompris [02:36] and who would be upset without it [02:37] there are a lot shool projects that write extensions for gcompris.... [02:37] ogra: ok worst case scenario, but certainly not preferable [02:37] they wouldnt have a base... i think dropping gcompris is out of discussion [02:37] ogra: we use mediawiki and moodle with php5 in tuxlabs at the moment [02:38] highvoltage, but not the debian packages... i'm bound to them :( [02:38] ah, of course. [02:38] ogra: do we have to escalate this issue to mdz? [02:38] ogra, I see the problem now as a functional issue, beyond security. [02:38] ogra: seem to be jeopardising us quite heavily [02:38] JaneW, gcompris ? he knows about it [02:39] got my vote! === bskahan_ [~bskahan@pool-151-205-103-219.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:39] ok shall we move on, that was item 1 - 40 minutes [02:39] or is there more to discuss? [02:39] yep [02:40] we have a mailing list ... and we'll have more meetings [02:40] ogra: wise words [02:40] * Testing requirements, as per Olivers testing Plan. [02:40] (nothing more to discuss now imho) [02:40] http://edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTestingPlan [02:40] thats a draft, i'll drop it into the ML tfor further discussion [02:40] oliver will call for testers when the time comes [02:41] after aug 11th ;) [02:41] but not long after, i hope ;-) [02:41] ok [02:41] or better: testig can start from aug 11th [02:41] * Documentation current status, and requirements to completion by release date, wrt ubuntu documentation and the cookbook. [02:41] that sounds good [02:41] jsgotangco: you're up [02:41] oh [02:42] what is there to write when there is no working system heh [02:42] seriously though, tuxlabs cookbook [02:42] *sulk* [02:42] harsh jane, very harsh... [02:42] JaneW: source? [02:42] highvoltage: did you get anything from Jean yet? [02:43] JaneW: no, he's in a part of Nairobi now where he doesn't have e-mail access. === philipp [~chatzilla@194.198.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:43] jsgotangco: yes, waiting on that [02:43] if there is none, i might decide on writing one from scratch *doh* [02:43] highvoltage: does someone else have a copy of it? [02:44] jsgotangco: can it not be scrapped? [02:44] no way [02:44] we'll find a way [02:44] sigh [02:44] JaneW: i think we might have sent the publishers the source, i'll find out. i think they might have gotten it directly from jean, but they might have it still... [02:44] i want the cookbook [02:44] grep the online version [02:44] grab [02:44] yeah [02:44] I can cut and paste into a doc for you ;P [02:44] lol [02:44] sure that would work short term === jsgotangco prefers source doc [02:44] ogra, Will TuxLabs be the 1st version of Edubuntu Documentation? [02:45] ok, let's just focus on short term for now? [02:45] JaneW: sure that's workable [02:45] where is the online tuxlab cookbook? (for the record...) [02:45] mhz, it will be a add on... but we'll need specific docs too... [02:45] any progress is good right now IMO [02:45] i'll start just to keep things rolling and not to make it to complicated to lessen the barrier for volunteers [02:45] ogra, but if translations are done... will we take Cookbook? [02:45] jsgotangco: just keep nagging highvoltage to get the source though, he likes that ;) [02:46] ogra, (tuxlabs, I meant) [02:46] JaneW: i have chains if you have your whip, i'll try that thanks [02:46] flint: http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/web-tuxlabs.html [02:46] http://www.upfrontsystems.co.za/Members/jean/cookbook/docbook/cookbook.html [02:46] sweet!!! [02:46] mhz, the cookbook is very coommon and a great source for the basice... but the specifics have to be adressed elsewhere [02:46] basics [02:46] ogra, ok [02:46] mhz, i.e. our LTSP works quite different... [02:47] jsgotangco: so is that it for now, ITO documentation? [02:47] JaneW: yup guess so, no usable system, no reason to discuss further [02:47] ogra, I'll be working on a MoinMoin wiki CookBook, so I can start from TuxLabs and then?? [02:47] ok agreed [02:47] mhz, we committed to mediawiki... [02:47] oh [02:48] * Art work, what's done, what still needs to be done, and by whom. [02:48] as per user requirement [02:48] last time we discussed the following: [02:48] 1. the folder icon, [02:48] 2. wallpaper, [02:48] 3. splash screen... [02:48] 4. gdm theme [02:48] 5. Jonathan to create a flying penguins edubuntu 'please wait' screen. [02:48] 6. CD Cover & CD label [02:48] 7. Edubuntu web site artwork [02:48] orga makes a crucial point. The mdz version LTSP will not match the docs [02:48] highvoltage: did the first verions of item 5. [02:48] on #1, ogra and i looked at some folder icons. [02:48] highvoltage and me talked about the icon theme stuff... [02:48] ogra: cookbook ... specifics elsewhere: That's why we made this book: http://developer.skolelinux.no/dokumentasjon/newdriftbok/ [02:48] there's a bit too much to replace, so we'll defer it to the next version. [02:49] yeah [02:49] tons of folder icons to redraw... so too much for now [02:49] highvoltage: you mean the folder icon stays? [02:49] who's tasked to do #2, #3 and #4? [02:50] JaneW: yep. is that a problem for you? [02:50] knuty, 80% of the stuff covered there i'd love to have automated and not to poke the user with it :) [02:51] knuty, but its a great source ... we'll include a package as add on if you have one... [02:51] highvoltage: no, I was just clarifying, making notes. [02:51] knuty, err, whats coyote linux ? [02:51] ok [02:51] coyote linux is a router, nat firewall on a floppy disk [02:51] items 2, 3,4,6,7 still need owners... [02:51] the next person to comment gets them! [02:51] ah [02:52] not YOU! [02:52] :P [02:52] :p [02:52] blah [02:52] lol [02:52] i like doing theming. [02:52] ogra: You cant automate the flash installation ... or handling the LDAP.diff-s in a sane way ... Because thats the only thing people do after installing the system :-) [02:52] ogra really wants to do everything [02:52] JaneW, naaah [02:52] ah yes, it's a curse. [02:52] knuty, no LDAP in our first release [02:52] i think ogra and i suffer it both. [02:53] so who has artistic flair, apptitude and wants to do some cool stuff for us? [02:53] i can do some translations and websitework if you need some [02:53] knuty, a standalone server doesnt need one :) [02:53] orga: coyote is firewall. There are a lot of different networks out there. [02:53] an very basic graphic work [02:53] and [02:53] i have aptitude, it doesn't have super cow powers though :( [02:53] I volunteer elkner to do #4, the theme! [02:53] knuty, right... [02:53] orga: I know that you dont have LDAP. Our book deskribes the things you have to do when operating and upkeeping the system [02:54] orga: after the installation [02:54] JaneW, why not asking for volunteers in the ML ? [02:54] pok we need to work on getting artwork drummed up [02:54] knuty, i'd like to have that automated for our next version... just asking 1-2 questions [02:54] who ever can do something please try, and we'll take it from there [02:54] mhz: yes I think so [02:54] part of the linux router project (www.coyotelinux.com/) [02:55] good suggestion. [02:55] erm [02:55] highvoltage: any chance you can out a nice upbeat soliciting message together? [02:55] orga: to make a debconf-net-install-solution is good [02:55] s/out/put [02:55] JaneW: task me on it [02:55] cool thanks [02:56] we have an issue re CDs and printed material [02:56] what issue? [02:56] on Fri I said it was happening and now it may not be. [02:56] oh [02:56] I am still trying to get clarity though... [02:56] jane, what format does te CD and printed material need to arrive in? [02:57] knuty, i thin about some kind of automated clustering of the servers to work together and share free ressources, but thats all breezy+1 and i have to focus on breezy [02:57] ogra, I'd love to see that clustering working ! [02:57] :) === ogra would love to have a base to put it on top first ;) [02:58] lol [02:58] orga: I know :-). That's why i pointed out what we have to do to maintain the system after the installation - and this experiences could be taken into consideraton on 1.0+1 === mhz is convincing a chool here in Chile that has lots of PC's and are testing clustering methods [02:59] knuty, yep... but i dont even demote any brain cells to brezy+1 yet ;) [02:59] ogra...the ibm Z-900 version would be nice :^) [02:59] flint, send me one for testing *g* [03:00] our time is almost up, any final issues/comments? [03:00] note that I have patience and will wait for the fulfillment of a single box versioin... [03:00] hey guys, i have to go, its already 9pm and i still have some issues to settle here at home seems like a nice meeting though [03:00] Jane,why don't you like the current folder icon ? [03:00] teolemon, it doesnt look lke folder [03:00] else its fine... [03:00] jsgotangco: see you later, Jerome! [03:00] (colors lining etc) [03:00] jane still has numbers without names next to them, I know how much she likes these columns of numbers and names..... [03:00] ah ok [03:00] teolemon: I haven;t even seen it... [03:00] bye jsgotangco [03:01] ogra: perhaps it looks like a folder to kids? [03:01] i'm a 18 year ol [03:01] highvoltage, thats my big hope ;) [03:01] ogra: i think you're just to old to appreciate it :) === highvoltage ducks [03:01] not a kid anymore :-( [03:01] if I have no volunteers I select names at random [03:01] highvoltage, no need to duck, youre right, i'm an old fart :) [03:01] highvoltage yes that's it :-P [03:01] highvoltage: hey watch out! [03:02] you need someone to try to do some new icons ? === highvoltage ducks from JaneW === jsgotangco [~jgotangco@202.57.71.236] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [03:02] may i give it a try ? [03:02] teolemon: by all means. [03:02] ok let's leave ogra to get on with it [03:02] ogra: please shout if you need ANYTHING [03:02] absolutely [03:03] else keep the discussion going in #edubuntu and on the ML... the countdown has begun. [03:03] JaneW, my only flairs so far are related to documenting and Translating, as well as admining MoinMoin and testing apps for education [03:03] thanks everyone [03:03] and you all please kick my butt if yu miss anything ;) [03:03]